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The rumours
The unsubstantiated (& unreleased) sessions by Band members
Over the years, I’ve
collected notes on the rumours of Band involvement with various
artists, and tried to track down any albums mentioned. As a hobby,
it’s harmless enough. There are a number of references in books
and articles to sit-ins that I have been unable to find and
substantiate and also several rumoured sessions which I can confirm
are definitely mistaken. These are the “wrong uns”. There
are also some ‘confirmed but unreleased’ sessions among
them.
One consistent theme in
the rumours is linking Albert Grossman-managed artists to The Band,
and artists who had recorded either at Bearsville in Woodstock, or
The Band’s California studio, Shangri-La. There were all sorts
of rumoured sessions and Bearsville artists like Hungry Chuck get
mentioned as possible connections. I have a Japanese Record
Collector on The Band which is intriguing because it’s in
Japanese but puts band names in English, so you see (row of
characters) Grinders Switch, (row of characters) Hungry Chuck, (row
of characters) Corey Hart. But I have no idea what the rows of
characters mean. The release of the Japanese Bearsville Box Set
revealed full session credits for the first time, which dispelled
all the Bearsville links except Bobby Charles.
A few years ago, I hoped
to find everything The Band members had ever recorded, but I gave up.
I thought that somewhere among all those sessions there’d be a
sublime moment like the drums on ‘The Weight.’ Then you’d
get that sought after CD with (e.g.) Levon on drums on one track and
the sleeve notes don’t tell you which one and you listen hard
and you still can’t tell. I’d swear that no one has it
all (though I can think of several who are still trying). I’m
sure that none of the Band members has all their own work or even
anything approaching all of it.
In my own narrow field, I
used to be hugely completist about my own stuff but I even failed
there. You do an interview, or a short piece, or you give a
permission and you may or may not be paid, but you say “Send me
a copy when it’s out.” People never fail to promise this
faithfully and enthusiastically, but then most forget (or lie / don’t
bother!). I’d guess that there were so many odd sit ins that
none of them would remember. An archivist like Bill Wyman is a
rarity in any band. I think all we can do is note what we can on this
site, and hopefully add more information on these “unsubstantiated
sessions.” I’d hope that some would become
“substantiated” and move over to the main discography,
and that other rumoured ones could be finally squashed. But we’ll
never know them all.
It may seem strange that
albums and work by major artists stays on the shelf. In 2003 Richard
Thompson was quoted as saying that major labels have zero interest in
artists selling at the 100,000 albums level. Too small. Now that’s
a lot of albums. But people start things, personnel changes at record
companies, st uff gets shelved. The artist moves onto something
else. Five years later it all seems a bit dated … and it
festers on the shelves forever.
This much longer revised
version could not have been compiled without the invaluable
contributions from the Guestbook. Thanks to Bill Munson, Donald
Joseph, Bayou Sam, Bones, Daniel Schimelpfenig, Harm van Sleen, David
Powell, Jonathan Katz, Kevin Tomasic, Lee Gabites, Bumbles for
corrections and additions.
I’m sure the
information here is still far from complete. I suggest that people
either post on the GB or e-mail me at TheBand@PeterViney.co.uk with
additions and corrections. Eventually (but not soon) I can do a third
version.
--Peter Viney, January 2003
Eric Andersen:
More Hits From Tin Can Alley
US LP (Vanguard VSD
79271) (1968)
According to the Rockbase
database, this album features three Band / Hawk drummers
past and future - Randy Ciarlante, Sandy Konikoff and Bobby Gregg.
However, the date seemed suspicious, given Ciarlante’s age.
Randy Ciarlante confirmed in 1997 that he did not play on
this album, not having met Eric Andersen until 1976 or 1977,
whereupon he played on the Midnight Sun album.
Atkinson, Danko &
Ford / Bearfoot
Terry Danko cut three albums with Bearfoot. Brother Rick was said at
one time to have helped out. Reliable information from John Donabie in
Toronto was that Rick did not play or sing on any these albums. Terry
Danko confirms that, and that Rick didn't even know they'd been
recorded till he heard them at Christmas at the family home.
Bearfoot included ex-Hawks Terry Danko, Jim Atkinson and Dwayne
Ford. They also made an album called Atkinson, Danko and Ford. One
album in 1973 was called Friends.
Bill Munson adds:
Atkinson, Danko and Ford did one LP, the liner notes to which note
that Terry is Rick's brother. (Then snakishly hastens to add that this
doesn't mean anything and that it's the music that matters.) That LP
was remixed (with new drums/drummer on some cuts) and reissued - sans
notes - as the first Bearfoot LP. Bearfoot did two more - the first of
those, with "Molly", being first rate - though Atkinson and Danko were
gone by the time the last one came out. By the way, the first LP has a
song called "Mark Twain" that is rather Bandish in its reference to
Mississippi river boats.
Beatles &
Dylan jam at the Isle of Wight
A visit to Dylan and The
Band before the Isle of Wight Festival by some of The Beatles is
well-known. A jam session is said to have taken place. A tape is pure
wishful thinking. No evidence whatsoever, and highly unlikely to have
been allowed. File with the Elvis-Beatles unrecorded jam.
‘Breaking
New Ground’
The last song that Richard
Manuel wrote (with Gerry Goffin and Carole King). It was demoed with
Carole King singing. The Band attempted to record it once or twice up
to the time of Jericho. No known tapes exist.
Garth Brooks
Rick Danko was said to be
working with Brooks in late 1995. He wasn’t on the December
1995 Brooks release or subsequent ones. There are stories that Garth
Brooks wanted his hugely successful management team to take on The
Band around this time (being a major fan himself) but that the
principals arrived for the discussion and failed the interview. Pity.
Marion Brown
Marion Brown is a jazz
altoist who has played with Coltrane, Coleman, Sun Ra, Archie Shepp.
ASCAP lists a composition, Afrisa co-written by Marion Brown
and all five members of The Band. A track to trace. A fairly recent
version exists on Soul Eyes, but none of The Band are credited
on the album, and this would not appear to be the first recording. I
haven’t heard it. Otherwise the track is not listed on any
Marion Brown album on the web.
When asked in 1997, Levon
Helm had absolutely no recall of a session, nor even of who Marion
Brown was. So, it could be a remix using samples?
Gary Busey
Robertson’s co-star
in Carny. They cut at least five tracks together, with
Robertson producing, and Busey had also toured with Danko in 1978.
The five cuts are in cassette circulation. I can’t find out
whether there were more nor even whether an album was released, but
it seems it wasn’t. Titles are guesswork.
Dixie Time Again
Rolling Down The Road
There Goes The Band
Mason Dixon Line
Run Little Belle
Johnny Cash
Rumoured Garth Hudson
involvement circa 1990. No details. Could be live shows rather than
albums. Garth was in Paul London & The Kapers who backed Cash
briefly in Detroit in 1960.
Champion Jack
Dupree
Not unsubstantiated, just
unreleased. A session certainly happened and one track Ramble
Jungle appeared on High on the Hog. Champion Jack also
played piano on Blind Willie McTell on Jericho, one of
three posthumous piano performances on that album (with Stan Szeleste
and Richard Manuel). Jim Weider has mentioned a completed album (ten
tracks?) which was produced by Garth Hudson, so it happened.
The Crowmatics /
Levon & The Crowmatics
More exists than released
on Souvenir. A 2 track promo CD from the film Java Heads
is said to feature them on Poor Little Ro which is not on
the Woodstock Records release.
Rick Danko: 2nd
solo album from 1979
Donald Joseph contacted me
with this one:
Your piece omits my own pet unsubstantiated-sessions
rumor, that of sessions for a second Rob-Fraboni-produced 70's Danko
solo album. Sometime in about 1979, a year or a couple of years
after the self-titled Danko solo album, a notice appeared in Rolling
Stone's "Random Notes" section saying that Danko was back
in the studio working with Fraboni on a second solo LP. As I recall,
there was even a photo of the two of them, taken at the sessions. I
concede I don't have a copy of this & haven't seen it since it
came out -- but my memory is quite clear that this did indeed appear;
I'm certain that anyone with access to late-70's "Rolling
Stones" & the patience to sift throught their "Random
Notes" sections would find this (assuming these aren't on line).
I've always thought that if these sessions did indeed occur, there
must be some songs from them, but I know of nothing that ever
surfaced.
It was a memory jogger for
me too. I used to avidly scan Rolling Stone for Band news and about
ten to twelve years ago, when I started working on a Band
discography, I spent a long time going through the cardboard boxes of
Rolling Stone in my attic. I pulled out the major Band features /
interviews, but the rest weren’t in any kind of order (I’m
not as anorak as you may think) and my hands got itchy from paper
mite bites. But one of the things I was looking for was news of this
second Danko solo album, because I had memories of reading about it,
then vaguely looking out for news for a year or so afterwards.
This rumour got firmed up when Other Peoples Music issued the surviving
material as Crying Heart Blues.
Terry Danko:
Rendezvous
Album by Rick’s
brother. See Bearfoot above. Terry Danko also recalls sessions with
Richard Manuel, himself and George Harrison. Possibly these were Eric
Clapton sessions (see The Hawk by Ian Wallis)
Demos for other
artists?
Davey's On The Road
Again (John Simon / Robbie Robertson) appeared on the 1970 John
Simon's Album, without Band-members. It was covered by Manfred
Mann's Earth Band in 1978 and became a hit. It makes you wonder
whether there was ever a Band demo of it. I've never heard even a
hint of one. But it would seem possible.
Snow (Jesse
Winchester/ Robbie Robertson) Song from the first Jesse
Winchester album. I would have thought this would have been written
during the sessions, so I think it's highly unlikely that a Band or
Robbie demo existed.
You could argue that both
of these compositions come from such a vital period that it would be
fair to license the John Simon & Jesse Winchester versions for
yet another box set.
Bob Dylan: Dylan
(1973)
This does not involve any
of The Band, but claims have been made that it does. This album was
Columbia’s response to Dylan’s defection to Asylum. It
was released against his wishes and bundled together out-takes from
around the Self-Portrait period. These were studio warm-ups,
and fairly slapdash cover versions done for fun. It was released with
scant information on the sleeve and the implied threat that Columbia
had much more poor material to flood the market with. There was no
track listing or musician credits, but Terry Hounsome’s
Rockbase CD-ROM listed a large number of musicians including
all of The Band. I’m certain this is an error. Repeated
listenings (and this is devotion to duty as the album is largely
crap) shows no sign of The Band to my ears. Michael Krogsgaard’s
definitive session notes in The Telegraph magazine were based
on Columbia’s session files and the actual tape boxes and
eventually revealed that this stuff was recorded during the
Self-Portrait and early New Morning sessions. All of
the tracks are clearly documented with all musicians listed. No Band
involvement. The error, I believe, arises because it was always known
that the tracks were related to Self-Portrait, and so someone
just copied the long list of musicians across from the alphabetical
list on Self-Portrait, ignoring the fact that The Band’s
involvement there consisted of the four live Isle of Wight tracks
only.
Fire Down Below
Steven Seagal movie
featuring Levon Helm. Levon plays a country preacher in Kentucky
helping Seagal’s investigations into toxic waste dumping. Also
features Kris Kristofferson, Marty Stuart, Randy Travis.
Fire In The Hole
is the Marty Grebb & Daniel Moore song from the soundtrack. Levon
has other connections with both of these musicians. It’s been
said that Levon plays on the soundtrack to Fire Down Below. It
makes sense, for he co-wrote one of the songs in the movie and
briefly toured with some of these musicians after the movie was
released. However, his name is not on the soundtrack.
Information from the
website is:
- Lee:
- I don't think Levon
plays on the soundtrack to Fire Down Below. He does perform a song in
the film whilst playing acoustic guitar. I had the opportunity to
interview Levon when he was on set for this movie and also
interviewed Marty Grebb. Marty mentioned something interesting about
the song Fire in the Hole. He had an idea that The Band might
have tracked that.
- Butch:
- Levon was one of two drummers in a great band that
Steven Seagal put together to promote the film. There were two weeks
of rehearsals and some of those sessions may have made the
soundtrack, it’s hard to tell, it was a bit chaotic to say the
least.
Some of the players were Bobby King,
Teresa James, Tony Braunagel (Taj's drummer), Leland Sklar, Doyle
Bramhall the 2nd, Marty Grebb and Levon.
Friends
Joel Sonnier and Garth
Hudson worked in this twin accordion line-up. No evidence of anything
more than a gig or two.
David Geffen,s Birthday Party 1974
A well-substantiated session, but it is not known if anyone recorded it.
Robbie Robertson and Bob Dylan were trying to make it up with Geffen after a
tearful evening at the end of the 1974 tour when Bob had thanked everyone
under the sun for the tour, except the guy whose idea it was, David Geffen.
They set up a surprise birthday party for him with Cher. The room was set up
like a carnival of course. The music segment of the evening consisted of
Cher and Dylan duetting on "All I Really Want to Do," backed by The Band. Then
Cher and Rick Danko duetted on "Mockingbird" before ending with Dylan on "Mr
Tambourine Man." Three songs, but Cher is added to the elite list of artists
who have sung with The Band.
Nick Gravenites
session
On one of the Hungry Chuck
guy's websites, someone (probably Jim Colegrove) posted to the effect
that he'd played on a Gravenites session produced in Bearsville by
Robbie Robertson. Gravenites was a member of The Electric Flag.
Norman Greenbaum:
Spirit in the Sky (LP)
LP (Reprise 2084) (1972)
It was quoted for years
that this session involved Band members. Individual track credits
don’t exist, but ‘Robbie Robinson’ is credited:
“Songs sung and
played by Norman Greenbaum, Lillian, Netta and Joe, Patty and Mitzi,
Norman Mayall, Douglas Kilmer, Robbie Robinson, Russell
Dashiel, Dan Patiris, John Coppola, Chuck Petersen, Bill Sabatini and
William Truckaway”
On the CD reissue, there
are notes which quote Greenbaum ‘Then one day Robbie
Robinson said he’d found out a way to build a fuzz box into
a guitar, with the result that it became the sort of novelty that you
just couldn’t stop experimenting with.”
I had this e-mail reply
after posting this on the website:
I was just looking to see if Norman had got his
web page up yet and I saw
your article about Norman and "Robbie
Robinson/Robertson". I was Norman's
road manager when he had the hit with Spirit and
have remained in touch
since then. So, if no one else has disabused you
and the world of this
ridiculous notion that the Band member was on the
session, please allow
me. He was certainly not. The line-up you have for
the session looks
correct from what I remember hearing from Norman
back then. Robbie
Robinson was a real musician who worked with
Norman, though I never met
him. Also, Norman told me that the fuss-tone came
with the Fender
Telecaster from the factory. Coincidently though,
I think Norm also told
me that Mr. Robinson some how ended up with that
guitar.
Grinder’s
Switch
Rated 1972 LP featuring
Stan Szeleste and Sandy Konikoff, by the great little band that
backed John Cale on Vintage Violence. Szeleste and Konikoff
are both one-time members. But no actual “Band”
involvment.
“Guitar Man”
by The Band
Goldmine once advertised:
Mr Guitar Man / Loving
Zone by “THE BAND” and also I’ll set you
free promo CD single (which is possibly Free Your Mind). It
seems that Guitar Man is by a different ‘The Band; who
were a garage band, possibly from Florida. Bones confirms that the
single existed – he had one.
Corey Hart
Canadian rock singer. I
read that The Band had played sessions. I can’t find any Band
references on his albums. There is a connection in that Corey Hart,
like Gordon Lightfoot below, appears on the Canadian Live-Aid single
Tears Are Not Enough which featured Richard Manuel and Ronnie
Hawkins.
‘Jabberwocky’
single by The Band
Jabberwocky / Love Me
Like You Can (US only, Capitol 2041, 1968)
This is not a Band
single, though it is listed as such in (e.g.) Price Guide for
Record Collectors Edition 3. I’d seen a reference
somewhere else before, but can’t find where. Anyway, it’s
even got a catalogue number under the artist name The Band. Problem -
against this in 1968 they weren’t calling themselves The Band.
In 1998, Barry Drake solved the problem on the Band website. This
single is by The Bards, not The Band, and was released on
Piccadilly in 1966, then re-released on Capitol in 1968. The title is
really The Jabberwocky and it's based on a dance.
Then turn to page 347 of
Bill Wyman’s book Blues Odyssey. It has a quote about
backing John Hammond with Band members in November 1964. Next to the
quote is a poster for Hammond playing at “The Jabberwock”
in Berkeley on December 2, 3, 4. The caption says ‘this advert
is from five months later’ – it’s either 5 weeks
later or 13 months later in fact. Coincidence?
Levon Helm: Blues,
Grooves
Video. Rumoured for sale
at $50, so could be a tuition tape (or a version of Drums &
Drumming). Or a bootleg.
Levon & The
Band
The U.S. collectors’
magazine Goldmine advertised these singles for sale circa 1995:
LEVON & THE BAND
Midnight on Hariba / Phoenicia Street Shuffle (LIBAN 45107)
LEVON & THE BAND
Screaming Strings / Jammin’ The Blues (LIBAN 56110)
The advertiser didn’t
reply to my enquiry, which would have been late as I got the copy in
the UK.
Gordon Lightfoot
Canadian folk singer.
Often mentioned vaguely as someone they’d worked with. The
Albert Grossman management connection was there.
Rockbase has (unusually)
detailed sessionographies for most of his albums, none of which
include Band members. I’ve looked at Record Fairs and turned up
nothing (except a Ry Cooder sit-in which is irrelevant!) I’m
reliably informed that:
Lightfoot basically has used the same back up
band his whole career with the exception of some session players. To
the best of my knowledge he has never played with any members of The
Band.
As with Corey Hart, there
is a connection in that Gordon Lightfoot appears on the Canadian
Live-Aid single Tears Are Not Enough which featured Richard
Manuel and Ronnie Hawkins. On one Lightfoot LP, Sunday Concert, a
photo shows Lightfoot, Grossman and Ronnie Hawkins walking through
the snow.
Los Lobos
Levon appeared on their
1990 album, but supposedly joint sessions were done at Woodstock as
early as 1985. A version of The Battle is Over was cut as
well as What Good Is Love? and possibly more. These have Levon
Helm on, though probably the rest is all Los Lobos.
John Martyn: Road
to Ruin
1970
Rumoured Levon involvement
before his certain credit on Stormbringer but the album isn’t
that rare, and there’s absolutely no mention of Levon on it.
Probably confusion with Stormbringer.
Willie Mitchell:
Sparkle
Recorded for Bearsville in
1979 -no details except that Todd Rundgren helped out and Band
involvement is rumoured, though goodness knows where on this dull,
sub-Isaac Hayes collection of disco-muzak, by legendary soul producer
Mitchell. Re-released by C-Five Records.
Keith Moon/ Peter Cook
The tale is recounted in Mojos' Special Edition on The Who (April 2004).
Keith Moon set out to make a second solo album, which has never been
released, though five tracks appeared as bonus tracks on the CD release of
the first solo LP,
Two Sides of The Moon,
Anyway, Moon decided to import comedian Peter Cook to sing a Warner back
catalogue song, "Rubber Ring." According to the magazine:
"After several takes, the track, featuring members of The Band and Rick
Nelson's Stone Canyon Band in instrumental support, was beyond redemption,
with (Rick) Nelson having to coach Cook's nicotine- and wine-sodden voice
into carrying some semblance of a tune. It was never released."
More Moondog
Matinee outtakes?
Unlike Dylan or Van
Morrison who cut a lot of material and whittle it down, The Band
seemed to have gone into the studio with polished songs and the
remasters series in 2000 indicated that there were far fewer outtakes
than people had hoped for. The richest source for outtakes was held
to be Moondog Matinee because they were using pre-existing
songs. Barney Hoskyns in Across The Great Divide mentions them
considering Bony Moronie, Slippin’ and Slidin’
and Lovin You Is Sweeter than Ever, but all three were
junked early in the process.
When the remasters
appeared, five far more obscure songs appeared as outtakes. Rob
Bowman’s sleevenotes mention there were also thirty four takes
of Rick Danko on Bring It On Home To Me and takes on Faye
Adams’ 1949 hit Shake A Hand. He quotes Robbie on the
process of doing one or two run throughs of suggested songs before
deciding to turn on the tape recorder. Robbie also says We
weren’t going to do Bony Moronie or Short Fat Fannie
… they were too comical. He also explains why they didn’t
record Slippin’ and Slidin’ and Lovin You Is
Sweeter than Ever – we probably thought we’d done
that.
So, two confirmed
unreleased tracks.
Van Morrison
Garth played on two tracks
on Wavelength and for years there was speculation about
outtakes. But Clinton Heylin’s biography reveals that both
tracks were sent to Garth for over-dubbing. So he wasn’t
acually at the sessions.
In an interview, Van
mentioned that he’d wanted to do a Ray Charles album with
Richard Manuel. But even at the time of the interview his wife, Janet
Planet, implies that Richard was only responding politely “That
was just you,” she said.
There are live tracks of
Van singing with The Band at Nostell Priory 1984, but these are part
of the large nebulous live tapes circuit (as are so many things).
Geoff Muldaur
US singer / guitarist with
Jim Kweskin Jug Band, Paul Butterfield then solo artist as well as
working with his wife, Maria Muldaur. Has been mentioned as having
worked with Band members. This would seem plausible given location
and other musicians who have played with him (Butterfield, Dr John,
Ben Keith). Rockbase has musician details for all his albums,
but none of The Band are mentioned. Danko worked on production for
the Bobby Charles album on which Muldaur appeared.
As I was writing this in
January 2003, there was finally news of the connection. Mojo
reports:
A slew of rum soaked
Eric Von Schmidt tunes laid down at Woodstock’s Bearsville
Studios in 1972, with friends Rick Danko and Garth Hudson of The
Band, Paul Butterfield and Maria and Geoff Muldaur. These tracks are
from Living on The Trail, a long lost Von Schmidt album
recently released – call it 30 years late and right on time.
The album’s heartbroken ballad (is) Thunder Heads Keep
Rolling.
So no longer
unsubstantiated.
Maria Muldaur
Strong Woodstock
connection. Garth Hudson appeared on an unused version of Work
Song rejected from Maria Muldaur’s first solo album.
Unreleased.
See also Geoff Muldaur
above.
The New Maroons
Lined up for an alleged
charity show following the Ringo Starr tour in 1989. They supposedly
comprised Ringo Starr, Don Was, Levon Helm, Billy Preston and others.
There are no reports of a recording emerging.
Nilsson: Pussy
cats
CD, (RCA) (1974) Reissue
(Edsel ED CD 337) (1991)
Rather like Ringo Starr’s
Rotogravure below. Band members involvement in this album has
been long rumoured, but the album has meticulously detailed credits
which do not mention them (though John Lennon, Ringo Starr, Klaus
Voorman, Sneeky Pete, Keith Moon do appear). The sessions were a
notorious piss-up for all concerned, being part of Lennon’s
long “Lost weekend”in California, where the Band were
living at the time. My guess is that Band members may well have
attended the piss-ups and been present without contributing. But
there is a reference to the Masked Albert Orchestra in the
credits. Maybe Albert refers to Albert Grossman, who might have
insisted the particular orchestra was masked?
The Pencils
Terry Danko gave information on The Pencils. Some references have
mentioned Richard Manuel as a member, but in fact he only sat in on a
few live shows before and after their only album was recorded in
1983. The Pencils consisted of Marty Grebb (guitar, piano, sax,
vocal), Terry Danko (bass, vocal), Chris Pinnick (guitar) and Michael
Dee (drums).
An album was recorded at One Step Up studio in Van Nuys, California,
which consisted of Terry Danko / Marty Grebb songs. They also
produced. On the album, Danko and Grebb were joined by Chris Pinnick
(guitar), Ricky Fattar (drums), Jimmy Pankow (trombone) and Joe Lala
(percussion). Backing vocals were added by Richard Manuel, Mike
Finnigan and Steven Stills.
Nine songs were cut, but then Terry Danko had a serious car accident
and was out of music for a year. The album suffered from changing
fashions in the interim, and never got released. Sadly, no one can
turn up the master tapes either.
So the lost Pencils album is a genuine lost Richard Manuel session.
Penderecki “Works”
Robertson supposedly spent
months in 1972 to 1973 working on an avant-garde piece, Works,
based on Polish composer Krzysztof Penderecki's work. It was to be
for the Band.
Barney Hoskyns says it was
'a kind of symphony about the experience of the American Indians.'
Another quote from Hoskyns suggests that about 15 minutes may have
been completed. This may be in writing rather than recorded form.
Whichever, it's well under wraps.
Peter, Paul &
Mary: Album 1700
In ‘Rock and
Woodstock’ P. Smart says:
It was largely members of Butterfield’s band
that backed … Highway 61 Revisited … then later at
Newport 65. The Band took over after that. They played background for
Peter, Paul and Mary’s attempted breakout albums like ‘Album
1700’.
In fact P. Smart means
that the Butterfield Band played on this album - there was no Band
involvement, just dodgy sentence construction, which started a story
that The Band had worked with them. Also playing on I Dig were
Denny Gerrard and Skip Prokop, both then of the Grossman-managed
Paupers. Prokop would go on to the Live Adventures of Bloomfield &
Kooper session, and Gerrard would pop up later in Bearsville for
the LP done by the group Jericho. (Garth is thanked on the sleeve for
use of equipment.)
The Band had worked
with Peter Yarrow in the sense that they backed Tiny Tim on the You
Are What You Eat OST in 1968. They are also credited on Yarrow’s
1973 solo That’s Enough For Me on the song Groundhog.
This track was written and produced by Paul Simon with a credit of
‘special help from Robbie Robertson. Levon Helm, and Garth
Hudson.’ Rob Bowman’s sleeve notes to Moondog Matinee
(which must have been Robbie Robertson approved as the earlier
Hoskyns notes had been rejected by him) says that Levon and Garth
played on this.
Richard Manuel,
overdubbed versions of solo live shows
The CD Whispering Pines
was released in Japan on Dreamsville in 2002. It was recorded by
Andy Robinson, The Getaway, Saugerties, NY 12 October 1985.
The 1990s Band has used
other Richard Manuel solo recordings, also recorded by Andy Robinson.
The studio Country Boy appeared on Jericho, and a
different version of She Knows was on High on The Hog.
Work had been done by The
Band on overdubbing other solo live material (including versions of
Hard Times, Crazy Mama and Miss Otis Regrets), produced
and arranged by Garth Hudson, but this never came to fruition. The
Garth Hudson-produced version of She Knows was done for
Bearsville Records (owned by Sally Grossman) and came from a Lone
Star Café benefit show. Butch Dener reported that Levon had
been trying to persuade Sally Grossman to release these tapes for
years, to no avail.
Robert Plant
At a
Rick Danko concert in the late eighties,
a press article announcing
the show claimed that Rick had played on
a Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin) solo record but
no trace has been found.
Michael J. Pollard
Record Collector in
January 1996 had an item in the ‘25 Years Ago This Month’
column (i.e. 1971) which said that ‘Band bassist Rick Danko was
producing an album for Michael J. Pollard’’ Actor Pollard
was one of the four leads in Bonnie & Clyde and a guest
backstage at The Last Waltz.
Professor Longhair
I received this note:
I read in ICE Magazine years ago that
The Band had worked with Professor Longhair and that an album of this
material was due for release,then subsequently pulled without
explanation. Have you ever heard of this? I sort of thought that
maybe this was why he was thanked on the Rock Of Ages sleeve.
The glib answer would be
that ICE Magazine confused Professor Longhair with Professor Louie,
but the rumour most likely comes from the Albert Grossman connection
as he’d financed recordings by Longhair. Bumbles posted a link
to a legal case resulting from Grossman’s death in 1985:
The plaintiff's complaint recounts
the unusual circumstances under which the tapes went from Grossman's
possession to that of his estate: "Upon information and belief,
tragically dying en route [from a European music conference], Albert
Grossman lay in state [sic] at Heathrow Airport in London. Upon
claiming the corpse, Sally Grossman, widow of Albert Grossman,
discovered the Baton Rouge recording session tapes clutched to the
deceased body."
The albums resulting from
the Grossman-financed sessions, House Party New Orleans Style
(Rounder) & Mardi Gras in Baton Rouge (Rhino) feature
a band that included Snooks Eaglin on guitar & (original) Meters
rhythm section George Porter & Ziggy Modaliste.
Bumbles posted:
The following quotes from Quint Davis,
producer/director of the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival and
a key figure in Longhair’s career after his re-emergence at the
1971 festival, appear in Jeff Hannusch’s I Hear You Knockin:
The Sound of New Orleans Rhythm and Blues. Hannusch isn’t
specific, but the trip to Woodstock would have been in early 1972.
Grossman invited us up to Woodstock. We did
some sessions that were supposed to come out on Bearsville, but in
the end it didn’t work out. I don’t exactly know why—we
did some killer sessions—but nothing ever came out. Grossman’s
got all the tapes. You see Grossman’s big; he’s just
physically big, and that’s the way he functioned. He moved with
a lot of force. He created this whole community up there. He had Todd
Rundgren, the Band, Paul Butterfield, the Full Tilt Boogie Band and
Foghat. He built the first really advanced studio there; he was
managing and he had the label.
He seemed real interested, and he initially made
the investment [$25,000]; and that money was crucial. It paid for the
Baton Rouge session; I bought Fess some clothes, a car and a piano.
We got there [Woodstock] a day early or
something, and they put us up in this house that wasn’t
finished; it didn’t have electricity or a phone, and they told
us to hang on for a day or so until they got it together. Well, if
you’re a 23-year-old Caucasian rock fan and were told to hang
on in Woodstock that’s one thing, but I was there with Snooks
Eaglin and Professor Longhair, and they didn’t think things
were happening at all. I’ll never forget Snooks standing by the
window and saying the sound of the snow falling on the roof bothered
him.
When we were there we did one strange
session with some guy, and then we did a whole afternoon with the
Full Tilt Boogie Band, but it just wasn’t happening...so I took
them to New York.
Since Davis was obviously aware of
the Band, but doesn’t mention any of them being at either
Woodstock session, and since the entire Bearsville episode seems to
have taken only a couple of days, it seems unlikely that a trove of
Longhair-Band tapes exists.
Raging Bull OST
Well, it definitely
happened and it’s on the film soundtrack of this Martin
Scorsese film from 1980. This violent biopic stars Robert De Niro as
1949 boxer Jake La Motta. Soundtrack produced by Robbie Robertson.
Release as an album is the question. Some believe it surfaced and was
deleted, but apparently not.
Scorsese says:
Raging Bull should have
become an album; the (performing) rights became crazy. I really went
to a lot of trouble with the music. I love Robbie Robertson’s
music at the beginning and the end, over the credits what you hear is
just him moaning over the drum machine. It was just a cassette he
sent me and now it’s on 70mm. (Q Interview, March 1987).
The Main Title
sounds like fairly straight classical film music. Music is credited
to Pietro Masagani, and three classical pieces are listed: Cavelleria
Rusticana Intermezzo, Guglielmo Ratcliff Intermezzo and
Silvano Bacarolle, all played by Orchestra of Bologna Municop
Theatra. At the beginning of the credits we hear Robbie moaning over
a beat, then the Main Title comes back in later replaced by a piano
with soundtrack talking behind it. Robbie’s production credits
come right at the end:
At Last (Gordon
/ Warren, 1942)
A New Kind of Love
(Fain / Kahal / Norman, 1930)
Webster Hall (composed
by Garth Hudson)
The musicians listed for
these tracks are:
Garth Hudson - piano, sax/ Richard Manuel - drums / Larry Klein - bass / Dale Turner - trumpet
(Oingo Boingo Band)
Produced and Arranged by
Robbie Robertson.
Garth Hudson also lists
Raging Bull (Cues) among his ASCAP writing credits.
The Red Bird
sessions
There were references to
the Hawks ‘doing sessions at Red Bird’ in 1965.
Red Bird specialized in
acts like the Shangri-Las and The Dixie Cups. New Orleans singer
Alvin Robinson also recorded for Red Bird. The label was associated
with Brill Building writers like Barry-Greenwich and Leiber-Stoller,
and the legendary Shadow Morton produced the most memorable items.
It’s exactly the sort of label that hires in the session guys,
pays the money and keeps no records. Musicians don’t get
listed on the definitive Red Bird Story 4CD set. But it took
years before anyone realized that a young Cher was singing backing on
a lot of Spector hits.
The explanation has been
that three of The Hawks backed John Hammond on sessions in 1965 which
were released on a Red Bird single.
End of story? Probably.
But two odd little coincidences follow.
The Shangri-Las recorded a
cover of You Cheated (You Lied) in 1965, and on Shangri-Las
albums the credits read “L. Helm”. Levon is credited with
writing this song on the Ronnie Hawkins Roulette version, but this is
certainly a false credit. The song had earlier been a US # 12 hit for
The Shields in the Fall of 1958. The Shields were covering an earlier
release by a Texas group, The Slades, on Domino which got to #42. It
was also covered by The Del-Vikings on Mercury. Composer credits are
to ‘Burch’ on these releases. There was also an answer
disc, I Cheated, credited to Burch, and sung by Joyce Harris
(and backed by The Slades).
The Rolling Stone review
of the 1969 re-issue of the Hawkins album says that it was ‘later
(sic) a number 1 (sic) hit for The Shields’. The reviewer was
Greil Marcus, who was pretty far off the mark with his comment:
Think about this.
Levon Helm reached more people with more impact with You Cheated
than the Band has with Music From Big Pink.
The song was actually
written by Don Burch, the lead singer of The Slades, and published by
Balconer Music, as was The Shields version. The Roulette versions,
credited to Helm, are published by Patricia Music, a company named
after Roulette boss Morris Levy’s wife. Roulette was a mob
company and they put names, real or non-existent, on composer credits
in case there was any money in it. Songs by Larry Williams, Billy
Emerson, Chuck Berry and Young Jesse were credited to
Hawkins-MacGill, and You Cheated was credited to Helm.
Incidentally, Ronnie Hawkins has said he doesn’t know even who
MacGill was. (She was Levy’s girlfriend). In another example
outright gangster Gaetano Vartela received song credits. The
character of the successful Jewish songwriter with mob connections in
The Sopranos would appear to be based on Levy.
So, when the Shangri-Las
came to record this song, they chose to follow the least well-known
of four versions and to credit it to Levon Helm. Reading through the
Red Bird Story reveals that Levy became heavily involved in
the label (after the previous owner reneged on gambling debts), and
there was a constant mob connection. That would explain why The
Shangri-Las would be exploring the Patricia Music catalogue.
As Robertson recalled in
an interview in March 1998 edition of Mix magazine (posted on the
Guestbook by David Powell):
"'Wow! I've got
songs on an album!' I'm really cherishing the moment. I open the
record slowly and I'm savoring the scent of the vinyl and I look on
the label and I see the song titles and I see my songs there, and
under the songs it says, 'Robbie Robertson and Morris Levy.' And so I
say to Ronnie, 'Who the hell is Morris Levy and what is his name
doing on these songs I wrote?' And Ronnie says in his southern
accent, 'Well, son, there are certain things in this business we just
don't question and it's better for all concerned to just accept.' A
couple of days later, I was in a record store and out of curiosity I
looked at some other recordings on Roulette Records, and I see Morris
Levy's name on a lot of songs. And I think, 'Man this guy's a
songwriting fool!' [Laughs]"
Of course Robertson soon got to meet Morris Levy
and realized what the deal was. As Robertson recalled to Mix
inteviewer Blair Jackson:
"...Ronnie took me up to Roulette Records to
meet my 'songwriting partner,' Morris Levy. We go into his office and
Ronnie introduces me as his young guitar player and songwriter who he
thinks has great 'potential,' as he calls it. And Morris Levy looks
at me and says, 'Yeah, he's a cute kid. I bet you don't know whether
to hire him or f---- him.' And I'm thinking, 'Whaaaat? What is with
this guy?' And I look around his office and he's got these guys in
there with these tight dark suits on; they're packing heat or
something. Two things became apparent to me immediately. One was that
the Cosa Nostra was not a myth. And number two, that I would forego
my comments about the songwriting credit dispute.
Second coincidence? Well,
the Band decided to name their California studio ‘Shangri-La’.
I do wonder when I listen
to those Shadow Morton productions … and I know English
session musicians who’ve confided some of their particularlyeneged on gambling debts), and there was a constant mob connection. That would explain why The Shangri-Las would be explo
unhip session work in private, but denied them in public. Except that
The Shangri-Las are not particularly unhip.
“The Road
from Turkey Scratch”
File under fiction. The
story of this supposed squashed fifth Band album (after Cahoots)
by Lennart Pearson was a humorous spoof first published in
Sweden and available on the Band website. The title was The Most Secret Record in Rock
History. It was supposedly “revealed” to the author
by a stoned Dr John after a concert. The device of the rambling
stoned narrator, lying on a bed, unwittingly letting out the deep
secret is one that was common in 19th century literature –
the untraceable authentic source. The tale of a lost “tape of a
tape” adds to it. Nicely done fictive devices, applied with
skill. Total pastiche. Not a word of truth in it.
David Sanborn: As
We Speak
CD (Warner Bros
7399-23650-2) (1982)
Produced by Robert
Margouleff
Jazz album featuring
saxist David Sanborn with Marcus Miller, Omar Hakim, Paulinho da
Costa, Don Freeman, Michael Sembello, George Duke.
There is a long list of
about fifty ‘Special thanks’ which includes Garth Hudson
(and Gary Busey). However, Garth is not listed among the detailed
musician credits. Garth Hudson's involvement on the album, according
to Garth's friend Richard Wall, was probably that David Sanborn
borrowed one of Garth Hudson's soprano saxophones for these sessions.
David Sanborn is supposed to be a big admirer of Garth Hudson, and
obviously they knew each other.
Jules Shear
As well as the 1994 sit
ins, there are reputedly at least 12 tracks done with Jules Shear
around. These include known demos which have circulated:
Tombstone Tombstone
River of Honey
All Creation
Baby Don’t You
Cry No More
The High Price of Love
(later on High on the Hog )
Long Ways to Tennessee
Too Soon Gone (later
on Jericho )
Money Whipped
Never Again or Forever
The Shutouts
Mentioned by Garth in 1983
interview. Probably just gigs.
Carly Simon
sessions
There are several genuine
links.
On the single of
Mockingbird by Carly Simon and James Taylor (Elektra 45880)
(1974) Robbie Robertson guests on this track which is from Hotcakes.
The song is a remake of the Charlie and Inez Foxx 1963 hit, and it
reached US # 3, UK # 34.
On the 1977 Libby
Titus album Paul Simon & Phil Ramone produced two
tracks (Fool That I Am, and a superb Kansas City), Phil
Ramone managed two more on his own, and another three in conjunction
with Carly Simon. Libby co-wrote Can This Be My Love Affair
with Carly Simon, and the song is about Levon Helm. Carly Simon
produced one on her own (Darkness Till Dawn, where Carly and
James Taylor share backing vocals) and Robbie Robertson produced the
remaining two.
The “unsubstantiated
one” is:
Carly Simon was adopted as
a protege by Albert Grossman who planned a debut album which would
launch her as a ‘female Dylan’. Four tracks were produced
by Bob Johnson in New York, including Baby let me follow you down
with new lyrics by Carly Simon and Bob Dylan. Artists on the
sessions were Robbie Robertson (later featured on her Mockingbird),
Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, Mike Bloomfield and Al Kooper. She argued
with Grossman and the album was scrapped. A 1981 Carly Simon
interview in Rolling Stone mentioned discussing the tracks
with Dylan ‘a week before the crash’ (which was on 29
July 1966). Sources such as The Rolling Stone Encylopedia of Rock
‘n’ Roll and the 1973 NME Book of Rock give
the session date as September 1966. The Guinness Book of Rock
Stars gave the date as September 1967 in its first edition. The
emergence of a September 1967 demo by The Band (Orange Juice
Blues) on Across The Great Divide make the later date
seem possible.
The Sony Album –
The Band
Sony signed The Band to do
an album circa 1991, it was widely reported, then dropped. Much of it
surfaced on Jericho. There are some well-known “Jericho
outtakes” which appear to be demos for Jericho, but
could well be from this Sony album. They include two Bruce Hornsby
songs (on which he may be present) Night on the Town and The
Tide Will Rise. There’s also a song called Keep the Home
Fires Burning, and a standout Ray Charles tribute called Nobody
Sings ‘Em Like Ray. My favourite is Circle of Time –
no information but it harks back to the Hawks in the bass-led style
of He Don’t Love You. The tape that circulated also had
Never Again or Forever by Jules Shear, the Los Lobos session
with The Battle is Over and most of Jericho in
different versions. Stuff You Gotta Watch is superior to the
released version.
So there are at least five
unreleased early 90s Band tracks which are worthy of release.
Ringo Starr:
Rotogravure
US LP (Atco 18193) (1976)
According to the Rockbase
database and to the Internet site, Levon Helm plays mandolin on this
album. As the album has painstaking documentation and
acknowledgements, including photos of most participants, and does not
include Levon, it seems most likely that the databases are wrong -
unless Levon was anonymous for contractual reasons which seems
unlikely given his other appearances as a sideman in the same year.
(But the album does include John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Eric
Clapton, Sneaky Pete Kleinow, Van Dyke Parks, Harry Nilsson, Dr John,
Pete Frampton, Jesse Ed Davis, Melissa Manchester …) See Pussy
Cats above - similar line-up, similar rumours.
Gabor Szabo
At The Forum concert with
Mercury Rev in 1999, Garth mentioned cutting two albums in Budapest
with this American-based Hungarian jazz guitarist. Efforts to trace
this via Gabor Szabo experts turned up nothing concrete. So there are
two albums, but no idea what they are.
Libby Titus: Libby
Titus
Earlier album on Amherst,
predates the 1977 one with
the same title and includes covers of Fool On A Hill and Here
There & Everywhere. As she was with Levon at the time, Band
involvement is highly likely, but no one can find copies of it!
Libby Titus: Makes
The World Go Round
Hot Biscuit Records, 1974
May or may not be the same
album as the one above. I’m told there is no Band involvement
listed (I’ve never seen it).
Gary Trooper &
Joe Flood
Features Every Night,
supposedly co-written with The Band. This might be Jimmy McCracklin’s
Every Night & Every Day, though I haven’t heard it.
Jennifer Warnes:
Shot Through The Heart
(Arista AB4217) (1979)
This has been listed as an
album with Band members sitting in, but it isn’t. It has clear
and full sleeve credits. The confusion arises because this album was
produced by Rob Fraboni, recorded at Shangri La Studios, and features
Blondie Chaplin on guitar. It even has a Jesse Winchester cover (You
Remember Me) and a Dylan cover (Sign On The Window). BUT
none of the Band feature on it. Well, Chaplin was an
ex-officio member seven years later in 1986. I was thrilled when I
found a copy at a Record fair. Disappointed when I read the sleeve
notes. Thrilled again when I discovered it was well-worth having
anyway.
Sonny Boy
Williamson
Rumours followed the
informal jam with Levon & The Hawks which is discussed in The
Last Waltz in which there is talk of future work together.
However I’m sure Robbie has stated unequivocally that this
never happened and they never played with or saw him again. In those
days tape recorders were not ubiquitous.
Whether such a venture
would have been truly satisfying is dubious – even the very
best of these collaborations (The Muddy Waters Woodstock Album and
The London Howling Wolf Sessions ) are ‘good’
rather than ground-breaking, and Sonny Boy Williamson Meets the
Yardbirds was poor, but then again as Sonny Boy said, no doubt
with the Yardbirds session in mind, ‘they want to play the
blues so bad, and they do’. I think I’d stick with Down
and Out Blues – great sleeve too.
Various artists:
Bearsville Theater
CD 1993. That’s all she
wrote.
Neil Young
Because Rick and Levon
both played on two songs on On the Beach, and because Neil has
the reputation of letting hours of tape run, there is always the
possibility of outtakes. Years ago, I’d heard that there were
unknown Neil Young sessions and perused the fanzine Broken Arrow
for a while looking for news. None appeared. But there are all
those box sets Neil Young’sd been planning for the last 15
years that never actually get released …
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