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Entered at Mon Mar 25 23:12:56 CET 2019 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Moving.......The Feeling moves me!

Three times in the last 14 years Lisa.......I don't want to talk about it! Any way this is number last time. Yeah, yeah go ahead and laugh. I mean it. It's pretty cool tho'. We don't get the ocean view like our house in Port Alice but you can see Hardy Bay slightly. You could almost throw a rock from our house to the beach there in Hardy.

It takes Susie about 4 minutes to get to the mall where she works out and the pool is about half that distance. It's about 5 minutes for me to the wharf where our big boat is and about a 15 minute drive to Coal Harbour on the west side of the island where my other boat is. A nice area in the townsite that we built for the mine when it started up in 1972. The main street around Port Hardy that sort of encompasses the town is Park Drive. All our avenues that branch off it are less than a block long. On our side of Park Drive all dead end avenues about 6 houses long. Quiet place.


Entered at Mon Mar 25 22:07:19 CET 2019 from toroon0812w-lp140-01-64-229-13-192.dsl.bell.ca (64.229.13.192)

Posted by:

Bill M

How's this for spooky action at a distance.

Today, shortly after I saw Peter V's post about Scott Walker's passing, I read the following opening sentence of a brief review of Passionate Friend", a song by A Teardrop Explodes (whose music I don't know at all):

"Long before he was openly championing the lost majesty of Scott Walker, Julian [Cope] was doing a fair impression of the man."


Entered at Mon Mar 25 21:47:15 CET 2019 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Across The Universe

I've at last out up a review of one of my favourite films, Across The Universe (2007 release). Britain & The USA in 1968. 31 Beatles songs driving the narrative. I love it.


Entered at Mon Mar 25 19:20:31 CET 2019 from s0106a84e3f63c293.vf.shawcable.net (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

That little guy was amazing. Looked a bit like a nine-year-old Stevie Ray Vaughan might have done.

Norm, you guys sure have moved a lot. How many times in the past years? You must be old hands at packing by now, done the whole Marie Condo thing a few times?


Entered at Mon Mar 25 18:47:22 CET 2019 from (2600:1702:4580:5e80:2cb8:9c16:1eba:2463)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Weird weekend.

American politics has descended into a hellish furnace. I may move.

Linked is a semi-live Scott Walker. Pre-recorded backing track a full step down from the original. Live vocals. A fab period of orchestrated Brit-pop which I love. That voice.

My daughter lives in Chicago. She went to Iowa for the weekend. In Iowa City, a bullet crashed through a kitchen window and caromed around the apartment. Had she been standing in a different location, she would be wounded or worse.

American society is descending into a hellish furnace.


Entered at Mon Mar 25 16:14:11 CET 2019 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Guitar Gods

Hi Jed. Glad you enjoyed the little guy. I wonder if EC or any of the rest were playing like that at age 9 was my thought.

Hope your health is better and you are feeling a little more chipper.

Going to be off line for some time. Suz and I sold our big house in Port Alice and bought a little smaller one in Port Hardy. Susan has to drive over to Port Hardy 5 days a week to be able to work out at a facility there and use the pool to keep her arthritis at bay. Also I can't keep my boats here. The marina is too small and there is no hydro to the wharf so I'm always going over there too. There is so many logging trucks on the road I don't like Susan on that road so much. Not long ago a guy put a truck over a bank and there was logs every where. So one day Susan said why don't we move over there so, you know I just do what I'm told.:-) Save a lot on gas too.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Last 5 listened to

Playing with my new toy. Here are five great tracks featuring Hamish Stuart. What I like about Hamish Stuart is that he is still out there, looking and singing great and seemingly able to play effortlessly with other musicians.The following tracks are worth a google on You Tube and required viewing for Peter.

Black Cow Celebrating 40 years of Aja, Reuben Fowler Big Band with Hamish Stuart. I think Pat B would be able to arrange like this. Brilliant.

Hamish Stuart and ACM Student Band What 'Cha Gonna Do For Me.

Hamish Stuart and ACM Student Band Pick Up The Pieces Great musicianship from the stuent musicians on both tracks.

PHEE with Hamish Stuart and Jim Mullen Would You Stay. The great Jim Mullen doing what he can do.

Ringo Starr - Live at the Greek Theatre 17. Work To Do (Hamish Stuart). Great lead by Billy Squier.

Really enjoyed the Dr Hook links and sorry to hear about Scott Walker.


Entered at Mon Mar 25 14:07:05 CET 2019 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Scott Walker

Link to "No Regrets." What a voice!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: RIP Scott Walker

A message from my old friend Ed Bicknell who managed him in the 80s:

Of all the people I managed (1982-1990) he was definitely “special”. A sweet, kind, lovely man with a great sense of humour and no “side” to him. An extraordinary voice and an underrated songwriter who was never concerned with commercial success. Truly an original. The four albums he made for Philips - Scott 1/2/3/4 are classics. It was an absolute privilege to have worked with him.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Under Pressure...Queen and David Bowie

I was not a huge Queen fan but I always really appreciated Freddie Mercury's (Farrokh Bulgaria's) musical chops thanks to his four extra incisors? Film Bohemian Rhapsody was excellent!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Should I Stay Or Should I Go...The Clash

Last 5
Carly Simon...You're So Vain
Celine Dion and Zachary Richard...Acadian Driftwood
Christina Grimme...How To Love
Cowboy Junkies...Sun Comes Up, It's Tuesday Morning Live
Crash Vegas...Smoke


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Norm-Taj on guitar

Listened to Taj. Thanks so much Norm for the recommendation. While he isn’t EC or Skydog the kid has a tone,feel and sophisticated understanding of the music well beyond his years.Unlike a lot of these young guitar prodigies I’ve heard he isn’t just shredding away-he gets it.His solos are purposeful and mature in a similar intent to some of the modern day greats like Derek Trucks and Jimmy Herring.A most thoughtful and soulful player.WOW!


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Brexit music

Edwin Hawkins Singers: 'Oh Happy Day!'


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Storms Never Last

The link failed. Try again.


Entered at Mon Mar 25 08:44:15 CET 2019 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Dr Hook

Link to "The Millionaire." It is my 3rd favourite Dr Hook song after Cover of The Rolling Stone and Sylvia's Mother. We used to do a Christmas pantomime every year for students and the host families - an elaborate three day production for us. As ever, the principle actors sing contemporary songs as well as old ones. We introduced "The Millionaire" in "Robin Hood" for the scene where The Sheriff of Nottingham tries to seduce Maid Marion … sung by The Sheriff and his guards. It went down so well, that it stayed in our weekly shows for years - though any one song would only appear every few weeks. It stood out because the other songs were well known (Streets of London, Rave On, Bridge Over troubled Water, The Boxer, Don't Cry For Me Argentina, Let It Be etc) and this certainly wasn't, but we usually put it in the context of a sketch and it always went down well.


Entered at Mon Mar 25 08:33:58 CET 2019 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Storms Never Last

There you go.


Entered at Mon Mar 25 04:08:18 CET 2019 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Ray Sawyer

Well I'm disgusted with all-a-yuz. Gawd damn bunch a city slicker ner-do-wells (what ever in the hell that means).

I didn't notice this right away but not long after. I waited for some time for some comment but..............nothing. On December 31/2018 Ray Sawyer passed. He was 81. Who is Ray Sawyer??? you bunch a bozozs! Ray was one of the biggest pieces of "Dr Hook". That band was so great! versatile did so many great cover songs as well as their own.

Peter! put up here "Storms Never Last" by Dr Hook, right now! I have been listening to so much of their music for a long time now.

I wonder if any of you have had the chance to listen to "Taj Farrent" a 9 year old from Australia. This kid will blow Eric Clapton right out of his trousers. It is like Duane Allman has come back in another body. On youtube just search "Taj Farrent - Tennessee Whiskey" and get your mind blown!!

By the way Bill M add to your crazy hurtin' songs, "You've got sawdust on the floor of your heart" Sneezy Waters... remember?


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Rod, the whole video is on this site. Look at the 'What's New' section.


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Posted by:

Bill M

"Breaking Up Is Hard To Do"

"Nothing Compares To EU"


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Brexit blues

I have to, Solomon! My twelve Brexit tracks:

Al Green – Let’s Stay Together

The Smiths – I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish

Everly Brothers – Walk Right Back

The Everly Brothers - Don’t Blame Me

Bob Dylan – Mixed Up Confusion

Marvin Gaye- What’s Going On?

Madness – Madness

Love - Alone Again. OR …

Leonard Cohen – Hey, That’s No Way To Say Goodbye

Mary Hopkin – Think About Your Children

Michael Buble - End of May

Leon Russell - Mad Dogs & Englishmen



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Posted by:

Bill M

Solomon: Great idea! How about "How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away" by Dan Hicks and "If You Leave Me Now Can I Come To" by Mental As Anything"? Probably some good stuff on the classic break-up albums like the Thompsons' "Shoot Out The Lights".


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Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Brexit Blues

Ian Dury - What A Waste

Ian Hunter - Irene Wilde

The Stranglers - Something Better Change

David Bowie - Sound and Vision

Average White Band- Pick up the Pieces


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: (Easy) Listening

Recent listening … I’ve been playing a 2CD compilation a lot, “California Dreaming: The Cream of LA’s 70s rock.”. The first three tracks (Byrds, Mamas & Papas and Buffalo Springfield) are “60s” in the first place. I bought the compilation ten years ago, and happened to pull it out. A lot is the obvious stuff, but outside that I was particularly taken with:

Border Town – Souther, Hillman, Furay Band. Love it. So much so that I spent twenty minutes looking for the LP. I have LPs in four locations. Found it! So that’s today’s choice.

When The Ship Comes In – Arlo Guthrie, prominent organ part

Werewolves of London – Warren Zevon. I just never think of it as “LA Rock” but it’s on there.

Take It Easy- Jackson Browne. Think I still prefer Eagles version

Jesus Was A Cross Maker- Judee Sill.

PLUS I was telling a friend about my daily 20 minutes “relax, elevate and ice” to music, and he told me to download “Cantus Arcticus” by Finnish composer Rautavaara and “Largo Ostinato” by Lou Harrison from his 3rd Symphony. Very good choices at 79p each.


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Posted by:

Rod

and WS Walcott and Mystery Train - priceless


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Posted by:

Rod

Have you guys seen the vids of The Band at Wembley Stadium over at "The Real Richard Manuel" Facebook page. Great performances of Endless Highway and Smoke Signal.


Entered at Sat Mar 23 03:07:02 CET 2019 from toroon0812w-lp140-01-64-229-13-192.dsl.bell.ca (64.229.13.192)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Terronna

For you Moby Grape fans, Don Stevenson, Omar Spence (son of Skip) and two locals will be playing Grape music at Hugh's Room here on Sunday evening. Let it be noted that one of the locals, Fergus Hambleton, was half of Goody Two Shoes, whose 1969 album included an early cover of "Rag Mama Rag".

Skip's "Oar" was the third-last album I listened to. Then came a Rhino blues comp called "Soul Shots" and now the only album recorded by Toronto blues-psyche band Nucleus, released on Mainstream in '69. Think Mandala on acid.

(Pat B: Nucleus guitarist John Richardson left soon after, recruited by Neil Merryweather to join Neil's new group in LA. After two and a half albums (plus one backing BB King), John left and was replaced by Kal David; both are on the wonderful "Vacuum Cleaner" album.)

Before "Oar", I listened to Zappa's "Overnight Sensation" (Band link: "Moving to Montana") and before that Sly and the Family Stone's "Greatest Hits" (Band Link: "Que Sera Sera").


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: Recent listens

I've been too busy of late to post, but here are recent listens: Very Best of Velvet Underground (had never paid any attention to their stuff, but BEG's affection for Louuuu made me give 'em a try - borrowed disc from local library); Monkees Headquarters (in honor of Peter Tork's passing); Los Lobos The Ride; Moody Blues Question of Balance; Joni Mitchell Shadows and Light; The Beatles Esher demos; Bob Dylan Trouble No More (disc 1).

I really appreciate when GBers share what artists and albums they've listened to; makes me want to check out unfamiliar stuff. Have a wonderful weekend!


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Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, we both attended Roosevelt University (not at the same time) which houses the famed Auditorium Theater where the boys played in 1969. Alan still sounds great. Thanks for the link.


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: My past also includes an Aberdonian housemate, whose name happened to be Annie. Now a prof at a university near Dunc.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: new Alan Gerber video

This is mainly for Pat B. For the rest of you, Alan Gerber is a Chicago native (from Pat's highschool, I believe) who was one of the two lead vocalists on the first two Rhinoceros albums (1968-69). Played on an early David Ackles LP or two, did his own LP in LA, moved to Montreal in the early '70s and never left.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Many thanks to NOMADIC MIKE for latest news on Louuu.

The New York Public Library is issuing 6,000 limited-edition library cards to celebrate the opening of the Lou Reed Archive.
Credit Jonathan Blanc/The New York Public Library
By Sara Aridi
March 15, 2019

Thanks DUNC. I did not know Emeli Sandi was from Aberdeen. She joins Annie Lennox and my former housemate Rob K! First time I saw Emeli Sandi was on the Brit Awards and was given Best New Artist award by...Bryan Ferry!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Last Five Or So Played

Supertramp Breakfast In America. I got enthusiastic about some British bands again because of the Anglicana discussions. I think this is a great album.

The Who Who’s Next. I was at the first public performance of this album back in the day.

Aretha Franklyn The Atlantic Singles Collection 1967 -1970.

Steely Dan Everything Must Go great album, now complete on Studio albums, hadn’t heard of this album before your contribution to Toppermost, Peter. I love this band - a big retirement project.

The Stills Young Band Long May You Run. Always had this album. Brilliant. Graham Nash last month talked about how underrated a guitarist Steven Stills is. I’m enjoying collecting the Neil Young concert releases from back in the day.

John and Beverley Martyn Stormbringer. This album is ahead of its time.Those of us in the world of John Martyn think John the Baptist is a great track. I think a big contribution to this track is Levon’s drumming. Brilliant. Also plays on Sweet Honesty. John Simon plays harpsichord on Tomorrow Time.

Blue Rose Code The Ballads of Peckham Rye. Really good album. Getting recognition and awards up here.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Better late than never

I bought a Sony verticallly standing CD player, with radio, Bluetooth, USB player for the bedroom, thinking that I would use it only for the cds. I bought the cheapest model in the series of three at just over £100, deciding that I would not need the bigger models. I think the sound is great for the price. Not as good as the B and W speakers downstairs, but good.

This week I used the wife’s I pad to stream the albums I had bought from Amazon Prime through it and am now streaming the Amazon Prime albums through the I pad. I think the sound is really good for the price and I’m trying new to me music.

Because of autocorrect this nearly came out as ‘I bought a Sony erotically standing CD player for the bedroom’. Aagh!


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Posted by:

Jed

Peter-good luck with the knee. I reinjured mine a week ago and broke my foot. Six weeks to heal so no gym. I hate not having my daily run but I’ll still do upper body stuff. And listen to lots of music. Anyone familiar with a one time show at the Matrix with David and the Dorks. David Crosby,Jerry Garcia,Phil Lesh,Mickey Hart-great groove-it’s on YouTube-try it out. They are clearly tripping and Crosby is having difficulties but listen to the interplay between Garcia and Lesh.


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Posted by:

Peter v

The wrap round cover of David Hepworth’s book about the LP, A Fabulous Creation, uses a photo of Bob Dylan and Richard Manuel listening to an LP. Bob is front cover, Richard is rear cover.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, Wild Tales!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: PETER V

PETER are we talking “Wild Tales” here.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: PETER V

Thanks for the Graham Nash tip. I’m going to order it now. Best of luck on the knee. I’m not that far off.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Hyde Park

Jon, add it's a 12-15 minute walk to get to a road where traffic is allowed (they close the ones next to the park) and that's a major crush of moving people all the way. Then last summer was about the hottest day of the year and you can't take liquids in - you have to buy them there. BUT toilets were adequate veering towards good, a first for such an event.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Peter, I wouldn't go either. Still love Dylan in concert, but my standing limit is a couple hours maximum (and I'm only mid-40s, ouch). I guess I've been spoiled as his last few NYC shows were all seated. What you describe honestly sounds like a nightmare.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dylan & (forever) Young

John D: Hyde Park, London. 12th July. Bob Dylan & Neil Young. Funny, it's not listed on the main "British Summer Time" site, but an agency has it at bottom price £169, but to get early entry by 30 minutes it's £218. I suspect base price is sold out so these are scalper prices.

I'm not going. I'm having my other knee (worse one) done soonish, and even by then I can't face 10 or 11 hours standing - and as soon as the headliners come on, everyone squeezes forward, thus you lose the advantage of your expensive 30 minute early entry. VIP seats are way more.

I also think that musically there's no chance of either being in the same league as Paul Simon, James Taylor and Bonnie Raitt last year. The bands will be way smaller. To me, Bob's voice is shot and while I like Neil Young, Mrs V can't stand his singing. I don't want to see Dylan murdering the Sinatra songbook either.

On Neil Young, read Graham Nash's book. It's him he's referring to about being hugely rock star over coffee two degrees cold, or firing crew for a scuff on his expensive Vuitton luggage!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: What We Did On Our Holidays

A pleasant little film from 2014, shot in Scotland. We watched it on Netflix last night and were charmed. It was only chosen because I was about to put the DVD of Mike Leigh's "Peterloo" on, and we looked at the time and said, "don't fancy 2 hours 25 minutes." We chose it because it was 90 minutes basically- stars David Tennant, Rosamund Pike, Billy Connoly, Celia Imrie, Ben Miller and three brilliant kids. A good. light relaxing film.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Woodstock 50th

It's interesting that this will be the third Woodstock (69, 94 and now 2019) festival and once again no Bob Dylan. I guess he has his reasons.

I would have hoped that Neil Young would be on the roster; but then again it's easy to be an armchair quarterback; in these matters.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Holy crow, that's a lot. I'll never complain again. But bike lanes - don't get me started!


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Posted by:

Dave H

The lineup of this August's "Woodstock 50" was just announced, and Amy Helm is among the dozens of artists performing. An additional Band connection is the location of the festival: the grounds of the racetrack at Watkins Glen, NY.


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Posted by:

Peter V

My large SUV is about £95 to £100 to fill from what I consider "empty" - before the warning light comes on and it says "60 miles left." £100 comes up as CAN$ 176, or US $132.


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Posted by:

Peter V

An imperial gallon is 4.54 litres. A US gallon is 3.78 litres. So at £1.36 a litre for diesel (petrol £1.25) that £6.17 an Imperial gallon (CAN$ 10.19, US $8.19), or £5.10 (CAN $9.01 US$ 6.77) a US gallon. That’s why when we stopped for gas in Death Valley, all the American drivers were complaining about criminally high prices, while we were saying “Wow! This is really cheap!” If the world is going to come off fossil fuels, then North America will have to get used to European price levels.

Our local government is spending a fortune on cycle lanes. It's very hilly. At my age, bicycle is not an option.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Wow, Peter, that's a lot. What does it cost you to fill up your car? And on the other hand, here we have many, many taxes (including the hated and disputed by the rest of Canada) carbon tax adding to the basic tax, and rates go up on a regular basis to fund public transport. So I really do think the main idea is to make driving so expensive and inconvenient that people will get out of their cars and on to public transit. Now this is a fine idea in theory, but not always practical in lots of cases. On the whole though, I do agree with it - drive less, organize your trips more efficiently, etc. Because no matter how thorough a transit system you have, it's just not possible to get everywhere you need to on it. But gone are the days when you went out for a drive just for pleasure - aside from the fact that it's become rather environmentally unacceptable, it's just not a pleasure any more.


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Posted by:

Lisa

JQ, according to a conversion chart, $1.55/litre = $6.20/gallon, and would be $4.84 U.S. The Imperial gallon is slightly larger than the U.S. gallon, but still! Apparently Vancouver gas prices are the highest in North America. And you should hear the reasons for these seasonal (always coming during holiday times, isn't that odd?) price hikes. Sometimes I wonder if they sit around laughing their heads off trying to think them up. If ever an industry called out for regulation ... but that'll be the day!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Baptiste and the Band

I’m watching the Sunday evening serial on BBC, Baptiste, which is the follow up to Missing. I’m enjoying it. Baptiste is a retired detective - an intelligent guy. I like the character. He’s driving along in a car with a detective, who is his son, but doesn’t know it. It’s a story. His son picks up a cd in the car and asks what it is. Baptiste replies ‘The Band...Music From Big Pink.’ He then begins to explain how the album was made in a big, pink house. You know the story. Then they laugh because the son is kidding him on that he doesn’t know what a cd is. Good choice in music.

Final episode of the latest series of Shetland tonight, Bob F. Great as usual.

BEG. Emily Sande is from Aberdeen also.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Gas price

We’re $2.75 a gallon here - Costco Oregon - because I’m an American retard I can’t do conversions to your commie metric system. I’m not exactly joking, at the time we considered converting, in the early 70’s, a socialist plot was suspected. At that price it’s little wonder we can’t get much going for public transport, rail infrastructure, etc. See the USA in your Chevrolet is still the operating ethos here.


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Posted by:

Peter v

Lisa, Canadian $1.55 a litre is £0.87 a litre according to my Mac. Yesterday I paid £1.35 a litre for diesel. That comes out at CAN$ 2.39.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Flood control

The US has never given much thought to planning for the future. I was reading recently about flood control efforts in New Orleans and the adjacent deltas and watershed and they proudly announced that new initiatives will last 50 years. The dike system, etc in the Low Countries estimate their efforts will last 500 years. We suck, again.


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Posted by:

Lisa

It's such a complex issue. Most wiring is still overhead here, and I think there might even still be a few trolley buses in use. But some major infrastructure is coming to an end of its useful life, and replacements are very costly and controversial in some cases, bridges, tunnels, etc., that have been for a long time now totally inadequate for the increase in population. This in a city where today the price of gas today is $1.55/litre (and going up) and where City Hall in its infinite wisdom has declared that $2000+/month is a reasonable rent to pay for a one bedroom apartment.

However, I must say they are very conscientious about repairing roads and underground pipes, closing down major streets for months at a time, usually in summer, causing interminable traffic problems. I suppose there isn't an ideal time to do this, but sometimes it almost seems like they take a perverse glee in making driving as inconvenient and irritating as possible. Actually, I'm not sure that isn't the idea ...


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

All off the points made re infrastructure seem valid to me, but I expect that none represents "the whole story", which is going to vary place to place anyway. In almost all of Canada, and in much of the US, I imagine that the freezing (and thawing of the ground has been a factor. Lots of extra effort required to find and fix an underground problem when the surrounding soil is uncooperative. And the heaving that accompanies thawing (and increasing numbers of freeze-thaw cycles thanks to climate change) can also do a number on underground infrastructure.

Nevertheless, I'd say that the reluctance of governments to see infrastructure renewal as an investment (and a smart one at that) has been the major factor.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Our friends are eclectic

B.Lee- I suspect we started out with services underground and just stayed with it. The industrial cities suffered bombing, as we did on the South Coast because so many American and Canadian troops were billeted in hotels here, but many other places didn’t and they’re the same.


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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: It's electric

A few thoughts, Peter. One, we have, or at least had, a lot of trees, making for cheaper poles. Newer, Suburban developments have their utilities underground. Two, our cities did not get bombed, so no forced infrastructure rebuild in the 50's and 60's.

Our distribution system is 480V and higher, so the voltage difference is probably not an issue. Many distributions lines are around 2300 and rough multiples thereof. Pole-mounted "can" transformers step voltages down to 480 to enter a typical residence. I have one in my back yard.

Eminent domain here is OK for highways and urban renewal, and now border walls, but don't put that damn train in my backyard. (Too late for me. In summer we hear the trains on the NE corridor. Acela (as close as we get to high speed train) is LOUD.)

Last 5 (sort of):
- Putumayo presents Arabic Groove. Manic programming music.
- Jan Akkerman, The Noise of Art. More manic programming music from the Focus axeman.
- Auger Rhythms, Brian Auger's Musical Journey (best of/compilation)
- Don Byron, Do The Boomerang. Arty jazzbo gets down and dirty on the Booker T. catalogue.
- George Benson, Body Talk. Classic 1973 Creed Taylor produced jazz workout. No singing, thank goodness.
I left out the classical ones.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Electric Varied Lands

Thinking more, as far as I know, electric cables have always been underground here. I wonder if it originates with the UK being on 240 volts, rather than 110 volts? Europe opted for systems in the 200 to 250 volt range, which may mean they were underground for safety.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Ottawa's busy music scene lacks infrastructure, report says (with video LYNN SAXBERG
Updated: February 3, 2015

Last 5
Adele...Someone Like You
Ani DiFranco...In Or Out
Annie Lennox...Why
Alison Moyet...Invisible
Anouk...Nobody's Wife


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Infrastructure

Infrastructure … overhead cables are one of the major differences Europeans see in the USA. We watched the Florida December 2017 hurricane on TV over breakfast and in hotel lobbies when we were in Brooklyn and Boston, and couldn’t believe the showers of sparks as cables came down. Here only large cross country power lines are over-ground. In urban areas all electric wires, gas pipes, water are below ground. When I was a kid, we had electric trolley buses with overhead cables, but they went in the late 60s. Though environmentally friendly, they kept getting unhooked from the wires, thus holding up traffic. The only overhead wires left are telephone, and nowadays that tends to be a short run across a garden from a telephone pole rather than along the street. As fibre takes over there are fewer and fewer telephone lines overhead.

Why? I guess much of the period after 1947 was nationalised industry thus removing the profit motive of cheap overhead runs. We also have far stricter planning laws. The US streetscape has much more advertising in assorted and garish forms. I was on planning committees here and shop signs and hoardings are regulated in size and style. It’s illegal to advertise along motorways as it distracts drivers for instance. As a result, mainly streets here look neater and less cluttered.

On heavy infrastructure – railways and roads, you have to look to Japan’s high speed trains and France’s high speed trains as the best. France has a simple system where the government can purchase land and buildings. You can’t refuse to sell, but you get (I think) double the market value of the property. In Britain instead we have years of legal cases and objections. Apparently the French system is far cheaper to operate and at double value, people are OK with it. In Britain, instead, lawyers get the money and major projects are delayed for years or decades.

We took photos of the amazing tangles of above ground cabling in Brooklyn, and of alleys between buildings in Evanston festooned with overhead wires. We noticed that in contrast, the new smarter bits of Nashville, probably the brightest and shiniest US city I’ve been in, appeared to be free of overground clutter.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: US Infrastructure

Here in the US we made great strides in developing our infrastructure between the end of WW2 and 1980 (Reagan). Since then we haven’t done much at all and now we’ve got real problems that way. A couple questions for our non US pals here: Did that happen in your countries too? And (specifically since right here it’s been very windy and our power lines have been down & out for hours now) did you all get your power lines underground for the most part?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Lord of The Manor

I bought two Ace compilations last month … Jon Savage's "1968" and Bob Stanley's "State of The Union." Both have The Everly Brothers on Lord of The Manor, an obscure B-side to "Milk Train." It's on YouTube (linked) but otherwise very hard to find, except on these compilations. It's a terrific song and a very unusual arrangement. Try it!


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks for the link to the 1988 article about Colin Linden and Rick Danko. I was at the 1985 show where Colin opened for the reunited Band (with Richard, but without Robbie), and where Colin first met Rick. The odd thing is that I have a clear memory of Colin sitting by himself on the stairs up to the dressing room at the Phoenix Club (and it was apparent he was waiting for the Band to emerge), but I have no memory at all of him opening for our guys - though I have no doubt he did. I would have remembered if Richard Bell had been in Colin's group at the time - so I guess that came later.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

COLIN LINDEN CONNECTS WITH “UNJADED” HERO RICK DANKO ON STELLAR WHEN THE SPIRIT COMES

CSNY...I remember their concert....too much testosterone with three guitarists....and many rows of fans lighting up....enjoyed more when Neil Young performed his own songs. I would have liked to have seen CSN on their own. However, I did enjoy my brother's copy of Deja Vu when it first came out on VHS.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Last night really enjoyed and appreciated Sting's musical "The Last Ship" which will end this weekend. For those of us whose own parents worked in various factories and then one day no job....We feel it 'cause we know it....
Sting and crew also treated the Oshawa, Ontario GM workers to a performance as well as the company will be closing at the end of this month.

"Sting's musical The Last Ship is playing in Toronto, and he's starring in it. He opened up to our senior correspondent Susan Ormiston about the arc of his life and how his own working class origins inform this labour of love."

Last 5
Mavis Staples...Have A Little Faith
Emmylouuu Harris...Where Will I Be
Lauryn Hill and Bob Marley...Turn Your Lights Down Low
Adele...Someone Like You
Emeli Sande...Next To Me


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: songs you can let go

Wallsend: Too true. I feel like that about much by the Beatles. It's not that I dislike the material so much as I know it so well and never turn to it for that reason. I can call the songs and they'll play in my head if I want them to, but I often find there's little to chew on.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

When I was young, apart from Bob and our guys, my two favourite albums were Abraxis and Deja Vu. I still listen to Abraxis but hardly ever listen to Deja Vu. I still like the songs well enough but just don't feel inclined to listen to it. It is interesting why some music stands the test of time, or ever gets greater recognition, and other stuff fades away.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Five for Sunday

My local store bought in three large boxes of pristine blues albums. I bought a dozen. I’m working through them …

David Fanshawe – Arabian Fantasy. Not one of the blues albums. A very odd album, often listed as “modern classical” not that it is. Track one is like Bob Crewe goes disco, then you get traditional instruments, percussion and various organs. Bought 30 years ago. Haven’t played it in twenty. Intoxicating.

Albert King: New Orleans Heat. I often found all the Kings (BB, Freddie, Albert) monotonous but this was recorded in New Orleans in 1973 with Allen Toussaint. The backing is superb allowing his fluid guitar to shine.

Howlin’ Wolf: London Sessions. Recorded with the UK’s finest. One track, It Ain’t Superstitious has a rhythm section of “Ritchie” and Klaus Voorman. Ritchie is Ringo Starr (see earlier note on uncredited sessions!)

Alex Bradford & Chris Barber: In London. Authentic Gospel backed by British trad jazzers. 1963. Mono.

Taj Mahal: Ooh, So good and blues. 1973. I especially like Buck Dancer’s Choice (reminding me of the Grateful Dead, “It’s a buck dancer’s choice, my friends …” from Uncle John’s Band, and Built for Comfort, very different to Howlin’ Wolf.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks BEG. I noticed over the years your enthusiasm for Mink De Ville. I have now enjoyed several Mink De Ville tracks on Youtube.

I fell into forgetting about The Eagles, but have returned to them and am really enjoying those albums. Just don't know the last album.

I also never knew about the last two Steely Dan albums until Peter championed them on Toppermost. I got Two Against Nature at the time, but only got Everything Must Go yesterday as prices were extortionate before. Both are really good albums.

As I said in January, I really enjoyed Graham Nash in concert when he sang 'Our House' and was very complementary about John Lennon, Joni Mitchell's songwriting and Stephen Stills' guitar playing.

I streamed Ainsley Dunbar Retaliation's To Mum From Ainsley and the Boys on Friday. I remember my mates and I used to look at this cover in the record shop back in the late sixties and one of the mates bought it and we all passed it around.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Our House

I've linked it. He is clearly so full of emotion at the end. He describes writing it in detail in the book.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Last night we watched some of the Joni Mitchell 75th birthday concert. Graham Nash sang a lovely version of Our House for her. It sure is an evocative song, not just for the picture it paints, but for the way it makes you feel ... still have my original Deja Vu.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: CSN and general …

The Graham Nash books continues to fascinate. He points out that Stills and Crosby were desperate to tour, having spent the lot, whereas he was financially secure (but loved performing). Equal earnings (and in their case, all songwriters) but two blew the lot and one didn’t. Remind you of anyone? Mind, CSN’s “the lot” would have been a lot bigger.

Also, on “Daylight Again” an album I love – it was cobbled together from a Stills-Nash album, when Atlantic demanded it become a CSN album in order to sell. They added tracks from a Crosby solo project that had been previously rejected by the label. Crosby was in terrible shape, and unable to sing properly, so Nash reveals that the hit track, Wasted On The Way is actually “Stills, Nash & Timothy B. Schmidt” (of Eagles) and that the title track, “Daylight Again” is actually “Stills, Nash & Art Garfunkel.” Nash describes Ahmet Ertegun visiting the studio and declaring “That’s fantastic. CSN never sounded so good” when he was actually listening to Schmidt and Garfunkel, and they never told him. No credits to them on the sleeve.

That doesn’t surprise me, but it makes me think again of all the Dylanologists (and others) scrutinising session records and assuming that’s what’s noted is what happened. Not always. All sorts of other things happened on sessions thar were never noted, especially back then.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: With Thanks

Thanks so much Peter. I hope it is worth while. If any one researches Micki Free, as well as being a great picker he is a producer of many projects and is an award winner. In particular for his work on the sound track of "Beverly Hills Cop".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Seminole Wind

There you go, Norm.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Shea Keck

I wonder if any one here has heard or is familiar with Shea Keck? Shea is a Cherokee Native. A very beautiful lady and amazing singer. She has a youtube video of "Seminole Wind". Far better than the job John Anderson did even tho' it was a big hit for him.

In this video is many pictures of the devastation of the Florida ever glades done by strip mining among other things. In this video she has Micki Free playing guitar for her. If you don't know who he is watch him play a Gibson Dove, his licks are great.

Shea was invited to London, England in 2008 and shared the stage with Clapton, the Police, Sheryl Crow and John Meyer. She was back again in 2009 and shared the stage with Springsteen, Neil Young, Dave Mathews Band and others.

Put up the Seminole Wind video Peter, you'll like it.

Not ignoring the most resent tragic event, just so saddened and horrified by it, besides a heavy heart I have no words.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Longer interview with Frank Meeink on why a former hate group member started to think differently.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Empathy plus humility brings about humanity.

Former hate group member Frank Meeink reveals what made him start to think differently, as he reflects on the New Zealand shooting.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Christchurch

My thoughts are with Christchurch and New Zealand too. I never thought it would happen there. But then, we have experienced Dunblane, Lockerbie and the foiled attack because of bravery at Glasgow Airport.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Christchurch

Absolutely aweful. We thought this sort of thing would never happen here. Certainly a loss of innocence for us and a terrible loss of life from an already vulnerable community. Hats off to the Police though. Sounds like the bravery of the two officers who rammed the terrorist's car off the road saved further murders from occurring. There are also reports of someone at the 2nd mosque over-powering the arsehole causing him to flee and ultimately get caught.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: Christchurch

I lived in Christchurch back in 1979; beautiful city. The earthquakes and now this...unimaginable heartache. Love must conquer hate and fear. We share this planet. We must find ways to encourage and nurture only kindness, consideration, respect and love. What are the words to Youngblood’s song? “Come on people now; everybody get together, try to love one another right now.”. Amen


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Posted by:

Peter V

Our thoughts are with New Zealand - we are in Christchurch, Dorset, UK, at least once a week. A general and genuine feeling of empathy from here.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend: Yes, simply horrible. I hope they'll take the opportunity to change the city's name to a suitable Maori word to make a point. I'll soon be off to a vigil at city hall.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Terrible news from my old hometown of Christchurch. With all the earthquakes and now this. I could never believe that this is how things would end up.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Radio listening

On that last note - I know things like spotify are out there but I prefer hearing an elequent, knowledgeable and passionate DJ host provide bits of interesting info, etc. l’ts more of a radio show than continual songs. Is that whole hosted show thing dying now? Although I recall a time when radio stations made a commercial advantage out of more music, less talk.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Tune in Radio and Simple Radio

I don’t know if this works internationally, but these 2 apps are great for listening to some fine stations and programming all over. It’s like it’s 1962 again and I’m carrying a transistor radio in my top pocket. Except the sound quality, volume and availability of (commercial free) programming is infinitely improved. I use it all the time.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Long Road Out of Eden

JQ, while I'll agree that "What Do I Do With My Heart" is the sort of song that gave LIonel Richie a bad name, I rate (at least) How Long (written by J.D. Souther in 1971, not by an Eagle) and Busy Being Fabulous. I dismissed the album too fast in 2007. It repays a revisit.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Eagles - How Long

The line from that song: “rock yourself to sleep” reminds me of the Eagles’ entire catalog - zzzzzz


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you very much for the wishes DUNC! :-D I've posted many times about Mink DeVille (Willy DeVille aka William Borsay) and especially have posted video of Spanish Stroll as it's one of my faves. When his Band split up he toured greatly in Europe.

Here is another one with Freddy Koella playing guitar beautifully. He has played with Dylan. As Toronto's Paul James has played with Dylan and Mink DeVille. I have no idea how I discovered this band. I'm drawn to their edgy street wise music infused with Spanish vibes and of course Willy's sense of romanticism. Mark Knophler produced one of his recordings and Dob Pomus approved of him as a songwriter.

Unfortunately Willy passed at 59....When I saw him at The Edge or was it named Egerton's at the time? I was sitting behind his first partner Toots. She looked like Amy Winehouse before Amy transformed herself. Apparently you didn't mess with her...lol. Some photos I took from the two nights I saw his band were in one of his fanzines. Willy was wearing his faux snake skinned boots. I wear my leopard patterned rain boots in his honour. lol When I saw them on the same bill as Elvis Costello and Nick Lowe....Uhhh...His band definitely stood apart. I remember reading in the paper at the time during New Wave era that Willy didn't like the way the other bands dressed. Yikes. Something my older brother who was also a huge fan of Mink DeVille would say. I asked him why he liked this band and his answer was the use of the accordion in this band. I think I also have always be drawn to musicians who can portray a toughness but when you read or listen to their lyrics their sensitivity as people and as writers come through as a ray of light.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Later Eagles …

In case you've forgotten that album too, link goes to "How Long."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Heart on the Sleeve

Branding and the Brown Album? I’m convinced they knew what their image was perceived as, and played to it.

Yes, sleeves are a major factor. I always wanted that Bessie Smith 1970 compilation by John Hammond because of the cover design. I got it today too. Linked.

And the record shop was playing Eagles "Long Road Out of Eden". I bought it when it came out, played it a few times and forgot all about it, to the point where I said "What's this? Sounds like Eagles …" It's playing now.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Happy International Women’s Day Lisa and BEG.

Thanks Dag B, enjoyed Smoke Signal.

Some really good links. I enjoyed Helpless, the blog about Robbie Robertson, and the kids playing in the wolves video. I enjoyed Mink De Ville. I always thought Willy De Ville was a Belgian because I noticed posters of him everywhere when I holidayed there and of his success in Europe. You’re always learning.

The Brown Album - a branding exercise. Not sure about this. May have worked subconsciously on me. I got it a few years after its release. Definitely album covers could help sell records. It was cool to walk around with the King Crimson record and the Ainsley Dunbar Retaliation was popular when the band were photographed as rockers. Then there was the shocking and anti women Electric Ladyland and the truly shocking Blind Faith, which would definitely not be allowed today. I really liked John Byrne album covers on the Humblebums, Stealers Wheel and Gerry Rafferty albums. He’s an international artist now.

Last 6 played - the first 6 Eagles albums. Really like the Eagles up to this point.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Here's a great song from a Lou Reed PoV, "A Thrill's A Thrill". Some of you may know Long John Baldry's version, and I was going to post a really good cover by Mitch Ryder + Marianne Faithful, but then I decided that nothing tops this, the original.

Come to think of it, the first time I saw former Hawk Scott Cushnie play live it was in Bill Amesbury's backing band at the launch gig (at the Colonial Tavern on Yonge Street) in the mid '70's for the album this one's on.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I like that Mink DeVille song - thanks. The intro sounds like "I Got You Babe", and the choogling rhythm from the left side throughout is a slowed-down "Having A Wild Weekend", but there's nothing wrong with any of that.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Spanish Stroll

I hadn't heard Mink DeVille's Spanish Stroll for years (I bought the original 45 way back then), then it was on that Sainsburys "Hi Fidelity" compilation and I've been playing it non-stop. It is really good in that Lou Reed vibe.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I knew you'd get it … all the songs show a STRONG Lou influence.


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Posted by:

Ann Marie Collins

Location: Washington DC

Subject: The Weight Band - featuring members of The Band & The Levon Helm Band, Kerri Powers - 3/23/19

The Weight Band - featuring members of The Band & The Levon Helm Band will be performing their New album World Gone Mad and Classic songs of The Band at City Winery DC on Saturday, March 23rd. Doors at 6PM, show at 8PM. Venue is located at 1350 Okie St. NE, Washington, DC 20002. Tickets can be found on City Winery's website.


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Posted by:

Ann Marie Collins

Location: Washington DC

Subject: Luther Dickinson, Amy Helm & Birds of Chicago - 3/20/19

Luther Dickinson, Amy Helm & Birds of Chicago present Sisters of The Strawberry Moon on Wednesday, March 20th at City Winery DC! Doors open at 6PM, show starts at 8PM. Venue is located at 1350 Okie St. NE Washington DC 20002. Tickets can be found at City Winery DC's website.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Peter V... Queen Bitch...is Louuu...according to Bowie.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The ATCO connection hadn't struck me. Yes, that is a line of thought.

BEG, OK, there were 5 songs of a certain style. If I tell you #6 on the list you should get it. Number 6 was Queen Bitch by David Bowie.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Testimony of A Musical Poet

Dag B... Sorry for the delayed appreciation. :-D


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Bill M

Peter V: Yes, intriguing. Maybe just two jazz nerds who'd met when the Hawks were signed to Atco in '65. Come to think of it, maybe the friendship dated back a bit before that, which might help account for why the Hawks were even on Atco (with nobody clearly in charge, judging by the label credits).


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth Hudson and NAMM Oral History Program.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Toronto Through The Eyes Of Women Artists

Peter V... ?? Only connection I see is that all the musicians are American singer-songwriters.

Yeah, you really got me now
You got me so I don't know what I'm doin' now
Oh yeah, you really got me now
You got me so I can't sleep at night
You really got me
You really got me
You really got me
Oh no

Last 5
Dionne Warwick (Whitney Houston's cousin)...Walk On By
Natalie Merchant with 10,000 Maniacs...Did not enjoy their concert. I appreciated her solo work much more. Many classes have performed this song....Trouble Me
Tracy Chapman...Fast Car...Saw her at Concert for Amnesty International in 1988 with many other artists such as Springsteen, Peter Gabriel, Youssou N'Dour. Guyanese friend at the time fell asleep. lol
TLC...Creep...It was this song at the time that some kidzzz joined my Music Appreciaton Club.
Jackie DeShannon...Put A Little Love In Your Heart...Some of you had American Bandstand. Well some of us had Canadian Bandstand. This song was always played. Annie Lennox and Al Green's cover was taught to the kids who performed this song as well.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Garth & CSN

Snippets from Graham Nash's "Wild Tales." He describes recording the first CSN album at Wally Heider studios, and says they avoided the usual West Coast scene of people dropping in to watch. "only people we loved and trusted who wouldn't interfere with the vibe." The examples he gives are Peter Fonda, John Sebastian and Garth Hudson.

A couple of pages later he says, "Another night Ahmet (Ertegun) came in with Garth Hudson, who loved what we were doing. He definitely picked up the vibe in that place."

Given the early 1969 date of the sessions, this must have been while The Band were doing The Brown Album. What is intriguing is Ahmet Ertegun, head of Atlantic, with Garth. I wonder what that was about!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Wolves don't live by the rules

Just bumped onto this great song by a young woman named Elisapie. There's more at YouTube, I see.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: A partial list of kings of England since 1066? John, William, John, Charles, Stephen. George, Henry and Edward are obviously overused, and arguably Richard as well, but not James surely.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Last five songs

Jack & Diane - John Cougar Mellencamp

Spanish Stroll - Mink De Ville

Roadrunner (Twice) - Jonathan Richman

Bobby Fuller Died For Your Sins - Chuck Prophet

Enter Maurice - Steve Miller Band

I'll leave it to BEG to point out the connecting theme that was on my mind.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"A private gift from Joni Mitchell will arrive in bookstores this fall. “Morning Glory On the Vine: Early Songs and Drawings” will be published Oct. 22, Houghton Mifflin Harcourt announced Monday. The book collects materials the singer-songwriter assembled in the early 1970s and sent to friends — just 100 copies, all signed. The release this year will include a new introduction by Mitchell and additional paintings not included in the original edition. Houghton Mifflin Harcourt will also publish a signed, limited edition of “Morning Glory On the Vine.”


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Lisa... :-D

Garth Hudson and Credits

Last 5
Michelle Shocked...Come A Long Way
Aretha Franklin...Respect
Amy Winehouse...Back To Black
Marianne Faithfull...Why'd Ya Do It...with Garth Hudson, Marc Ribot and Lew Soloff
Julie Miller and Buddy Miller...Keep Your Distance...Great show at Bottom Line NYC. When they were on same gig as Neil Young and Crazy Horse in Toronto...Venue too large for their sound and groove.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Albert Hall 1971? That comes in between the two.


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Posted by:

Peter V

We need Rob the Organ on Lowrey's in the UK - very rare, as far as I know I can't think of a UK band that used one, though a lot of these elaborate 'non rock' organs were used in churches and so on. Selmer were a wide ranging music company- from amps to budget label records!


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Pat B

I meant to add that Wembley might be the only recorded example of Garth playing The Weight on organ. The Freeman String Symphonizer is prominent.


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Posted by:

Pat B

PV, all those Lowreys Garth used were one piece. At Wembley he's using the H25-3 which I would guess to be around 300 pounds. In England, Selmer distributed Lowrey organ. They customized an H25 for Garth's appearance at the Isle of Wight in 69. No one knows what happened to it.

Garth started using the H25-3 for Planet Waves, the major update being the addition of a simplified Freeman String Symphonizer to the organ. Think of those string sounds on BtF. Recall for Wembley Garth also brought two Leslie speaker cabinets and a clavinette (The wah wah on Cripple Creek).

I suppose it's possible that the Isle of Wight Lowrey and the Wembley Lowrey are the same, pulled out of mothballs after a five year hiatus.


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Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Wembley 1974

That man Garth Hudson sounds electrifying ! Thanks Dag.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Wembly '74

Wow, thanks so much for this, Dag. Great stuff! Richard looks and sounds unusually focused for the 73-76 live era.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Understood, Pat. It did sound like a Hammond. I'm surprised they transported the Lowrey to England for one gig even in front of 90,000, but I guess they had a system for shipping it. Did it come in sections, or was it always one huge item?


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Web: My link

Subject: Wembley 1974 (mp4)

Here's the full London 1974 video, download by clicking on the icon in the upper right corner (2,3 gigabytes)


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Posted by:

Pat B

PV, I didn't mean to give the impression that Garth was playing a B3, Instead he was using a setting on the Lowrey that mimicked the B3 "Jimmy Smith" drawbar setting (888800000 with percussion on), an incredibly popular setting that Garth rarely tried to duplicate.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: song royalties

See link. After a ruling that royalties on streaming should rise by 44% over 5 years, amazon and spotify are going to court to try to stop it. Apparently, Apple have accepted it. So you know where to buy your music!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Likely not so much the faculties but the inclinations that have diminished. At this age I'm more likely to like something simply because I like it, without filtering it through a series of undercooked 'principles'.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, there IS a CSNY 1974 box set, but it covers the whole tour. It includes a DVD of selections.


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Posted by:

City Winery DC

Subject: The Band & Levon Helm Tribute

Performing their new album, World Gone Mad, and Classic songs of The Band, The Weight Band is coming to City Winery DC! Get tickets to their show on March 23 on our website!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Not as hopeless a Helpless as I remember

Link is CSNY at Wembley 74. Helpless with Joni Mitchell. It's better than I remember it on the day - well it's an incredibly long time ago! 45 years. Maybe my critical faculties have diminished.


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Posted by:

Peter V

On repeated watching, I reckon the live Smoke Signal is better than the studio version.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Wobbly Wembley 74

It sent me to A Musical History DVD (disc 6) to look at The Slop, Just Another Whistle Stop, Genetic Method and Chest fever. It has exactly the same soft video look, but doesn’t jump like Smoke Signal. The camera lens can’t cope with any distance either. You can see one camera guy on a high platform to the rear. There must be one on stage too, and you glimpse one at the front. Genetic Method probably has the best ever view of Garth at the keys, and it’s the Lowery (well, it isn’t a Hammond and it has coloured stops). Richard has a grand piano and an electric piano. He’s very clear in Hard Times / The Slop when Garth is on sax. Otherwise as usual his piano is too low in the mix, but we get close-ups of him singing. Lots. It’s as if Robbie reacted to TLW criticism, and deliberately featured Richard more on A Musical History DVD.

You can’t see me in the audience unfortunately.

I would suspect that the softness of the video picture rules it out for a DVD release nowadays. Judging by the number of cameras, I’d guess the whole day was filmed, probably as a CSNY project. There were rumours a few years ago of a Wembley 74 box set. A stumbling block, I suspect, is that Messrs Young, Stills and Crosby were out of it and on poor form in my memory. Graham Nash’s set stood out on the day as easily the best - they did CSNY, then solo spots, then back to CSNY. Tom Scott & The LA Express, who backed Joni Mitchell, were outstandingly good on the day. I remember Neil Young’s solo spot as dire.

Still reading Graham Nash’s book. He mentions that he and Crosby and Stills all agreed that they loved Hard Day’s Night film. Neil Young didn’t like it and watched Don’t Look Back twice instead. Graham says that Neil always saw himself as Bob Dylan, not as a member of a band.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Dag B / Jan H: Thanks for "Smoke Signal". Wonderful version, and reminds me that they were still a band of brothers at the time. Says so right in the song, and they borrowed a somewhat unusual word from the song for use as the album title. I like how Rick repeatedly looks right to Richard in the middle part, smiling as he's singing the lyrics somewhat off mike - and seemingly to Richard.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

If you click on the Smoke Signal link and go to the comments section, Dag B has uploaded the whole 28 minutes of the Wembley video that he bought from someone online. This Dag B is putting us old Band fans to shame with all the stuff he has found! Much appreciated.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Well that is interesting. Garth played piano on the original Smoke Signal, but on this he almost sounds like he's manning a Hammond B3. So it's much faster, and Garth expands the harmonic movement gigantically. I can't tell if Richard is playing at all.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks. In that case, maybe he was on deadline with a bad head cold. Happens to all of us.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Hepworth is a highly respected music journalist. He was behind both Q and Mojo and presented "Live Aid." He's written a lot of good stuff over the years.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V, re 'branding': Who is this Hepworth person? In this case he writes like someone who wasn't around before everything became a branding exercise - i.e., much closer to the current millennium than '69 was. Unless the mere act of choosing a cover that sorta fits the music counts as branding. Does Hepworth's brand include wordiness, as in all those words used to bring in the Civil War photos?

More worthy of discussion, I would say, is the trend towards minimalism in packaging post-Basement Tape - the Beatles respond by going from Pepper to White, the Stones respond by going from Satanic to Beggars, etc. Our guys didn't go white, but they went stark with the cover of Big Brown, and with the very simple group name.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Smoke Signal

Astonishing. The sound is superb - which makes me think a live album is possible from Wembley 74. The online video has all sorts of pulsing - off video tape and probably way down the line, transferred betwen formats. I would guess either two or three cameras onstage, plus one out there for the ambient blurred wide shot. One camera has to be front of stage looking up at Robbie and Rick. A second camera could probably walk between the Levon close ups and Garth close ups, as they're at opposite ends of the song and there's a route around behind the amps. They could have had three on stage, but then maybe they'd have intercut Levon tight closeup later.

The first portable Sony UMatics were 1974 which changed news broadcasting. Looking online, these were colour, though I was using UMatic at the time, 1974, (non-portable), and I was using a black and white one. I'd guess this originated on video, not 16 mm film, but who knows? Was it intended for broadcast or more? Is the whole show on video?

BTW, for the conspiracy theorists on TLW and the absence of Richard from more than a couple of brief glances, like "Festival Express" this is exactly the same and for the same reasons … which are not "conspiracy."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Brown Album: "A branding exercise"?

Today’s Sunday Times reviews “A Fabulous Creation: How the LP Changed Our Lives” by David Hepworth. Quote from the review:

“(it) explores the album as a branding exercise, exemplified by The Band, whose second album of self-consciously “artisanal” songs was flagged by a sepia-tinted cover shot of the musicians looking like staff officers in Matthew Brady’s famous photographs from the Civil War. Similar guile attended the sale of live albums dressed up as bootlegs (such as The Who Live At Leeds) to gullible fans convinced that the best music was being kept from them by the capitalist overlord known as “The Man.”

Phew … branding exercise? Similar guile? What do you think?


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: The reason I won't give my money to Dylan (and go to Roskilde Festival to see him).

The late IZZY YOUNG wanted to meet BOB DYLAN for the last time during Dylan's many visits in Stockholm. Izzy arrangaded his first concert in New York, you remember? Izzy wanted to say: "Look, we have not achieved anything here in the world in fifty years. I still run Folklore center and you still strum your guitar and sing out of the key." Great wisdom and humor! Dylan never answered. (He could have answered: "No Izzy, I sing SINATRA covered with butter and syrup!")


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: "Smoke Signal" (London, 1974)

Wow


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Posted by:

Bill M

Lisa: We all feel that way from time to time. I think I've posted a prize-worthy insight into a Band-centric topic and nobody will touch it with a barge-pole, and then somebody else mentions that their favourite soccer player is X and all hell breaks loose for two weeks.


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Posted by:

Bonk

Subject: Lisa

Happy INTERNATIONAL WOMANS DAY! I think it's quiet because of the weekend. Yeah. I feel like that too sometimes when I post and nobody comments. Not sure if things are better today.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Clocks move forward one hour Sunday morning. At least, they do in my neck of the woods.

There, Lisa, you can rest easy for now. :)


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Posted by:

Lisa

Dontcha just hate it when you post something, and then nobody else posts anything for quite a while, and every time you look what you posted looks dumber and dumber? :-)


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Posted by:

Lisa

Happy International Women's Day, beg, and everybody else, too! Things have changed a lot in my lifetime, and a lot of what's changed is happening now. What is it they say about living in interesting times? Sometimes I wonder if the world was always this crazy and I just didn't notice it before, or if things really are different now? But there are a lot of positive things happening now too, and today is definitely a day to celebrate some of them, so yay!!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Graham Nash (in Wild Tales) said George Harrison was uncharacteristically vicious in his remarks on The Hollies “If I Needed Someone” saying it sounded like a load of session men. Unlike John & Paul he hadn’t worked out that it was a good thing when a regular Top 20 band covered one of your songs.

Taxman – I guess it’s right of centre in its intent, but then The Beatles were paying 94% tax, which then went to 98%, and no one is going to feel that fair. There is a point where tax revenues increase as tax rates are lowered. The ones who suffer are accountants, because once tax gets to an acceptable level, rich people stop bothering with elaborate tax avoidance schemes. It's deciding on where that point is that's the issue.

Hermless – I’ve been listening to the album, On Stolen Stationery this week. It’s the song with the strongest accent on there, and I was enjoying the amusing cooing female chorus. But I’d missed the words before.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Oops! Here is ANNIE LENNOX!!!!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Just enjoyed reading the Anti Protest songs article, Peter. Okie is the classic example. A couple of related thoughts. I remember Mick Jagger being taken to task for not following up Street Fighting Man with more songs of this genre. He replied along the lines of sometimes couples just like to chill. Hard to be a revolutionary when you are a multi millionaire.

Maybe George Harrison's Taxman is an anti protest song. I'm pretty sure it's my least favourite Beatles' song - music, musicianship and lyrics.

Music to dance to - Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons' Night is a northern soul classic.

Frank Sinatra - I detest 'My Way'. I bought 'Shadows In The Night' and 'Fallen Angels. Thank God I never bought the triple album - three albums of it. FFS is the new term I think. A company maximising its revenue is the phrase which comes to mind, which is fair enough. Buy my whisky and sip it while you play Blowin'In The Wind.

My favourite anti protest song or is it a protest song is Michael Marra's 'Hermless' (Harmless) which might be protesting about songs where us Scots are battering people or might be protesting about Scots battering people. Many of us (sorry a few) of us would like this as our national anthem.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

In praise of ANNIE LENNOX on INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!!!!

I saw Annie and The Eurythmics at Canada's Wonderland of all places with a couple of friends from the Grand River.

In praise of the few female posters in this GB as well!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

My favourite feminist (recognizing that women as a social group are oppressed..btw many kinds such as conservative, liberal, marxist, ) musician from Aberdeen, Scotland...and who my brother even catered a meal for her band!!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and my other fave drummer!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Happy Healthy INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S Day via of my fave drummer!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dan Brown

Haso – we listened to all the main Dan Brown on unabridged audio CDs, rather than read them. They’re perfect in-car material because the plots are so absorbing. I wrote The Shakespeare Cod Piece in Stratford-upon-Avon (and so took the photos) – we’d been listening on the way there. It was becoming fast apparent that the actor reading was getting irritated with Dan Brown’s obsession with repeatedly saying “Bell 750 XI helicopter” rather than just “helicopter.” He does this with all forms of transport. I’ve been reading “Nabokov’s Favorite Word is Mauve” which analyses literary works (and yes, Nabokov used “mauve” more than any other writer). We noticed how often vehicles, people, whatever “hovered” in Dan Brown’s books because the pronunciation is different in British English. Then he must have been told by some early English teacher to describe sunlight at every opportunity -it streams, dapples, reflects. It becomes easy to pastiche. All the Stratford stuff about Psalm 46 is true. That’s where the bible is open in the church and they explain the story to visitors.

He researches minute details … but then has to type them out. Actually, he's not always right. In an earlier book, he had someone acting at the current Shakespeare's Globe in London some 10 or 15 years before it was built.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Growing old

I can't understand you old people here in gb! You seem to be so dynamic and young. My, myself. I am satisfied with some old LPs or some old classic gem on c-cassettes. I eat food from the 70s: shrimps, meatloaf, sausages. Made by me. Cheap. Lidl. - Sometimes I pick up my ol' banjo and play 'Wild Mountain Thyme' or something... or Irish seamen's songs on my harmonica which I have boild in whisky for the rough sound.


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Posted by:

Rod

Day B. Love your posts. Especially the "quiet" years in the 70s


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: Mr. Brown

Peter: nicely done on your homage to our local best-selling novelist (we live in his hometown). I'm about 1/2 through yours, good mimicking on style. Must admit I've not read Inferno. Read his 1st 4 (2 of which are Robert Langdon tomes) one long weekend, in Seattle I think. He's done a lot of good works hereabouts, although I find the writing having too little depth. That said, he no doubt does voluminous, careful research.

On a personal note, I don't know him. Know his dad a little, very nice man; was a long-time math instructor at our local "prep school". Dan name-checks a number of friends of mine as characters in various books. And I just finished remodeling a bathroom for the people who've owned the house for about 15 years, that he grew up in. (My customer has a dvd copy of TLW, so at least there's that, for sure.) Also, a couple of my subcontractors did a great deal of work when the Browns put together their own compound, not too far away.

Norm: there wasn't any fresh snow but riding was pretty good.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Band Photos...9 pages


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Allen Toussaint and Levon Helm
2010
Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival
Photo 38

Last 5
Joseph Arthur...In The Sun
Robbie Robertson...When The Night Was Young
The Eagles...Learn To Be Still
Steve Forbert...Cellophane City
Johnny Rivers...The Tracks Of My Tears


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Posted by:

City Winery DC

Hey Levon Helm & The Band fans! The Weight Band featuring members of the Levon Helm Band and The Band are coming to City Winery DC on March 23rd! Get your tickets on our website!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Shakespeare's Dog

JQ: I was thinking it was Calvin with whom I'd exchanged posts about Rooke's book here years ago, but maybe it was you. Wonderful, I thought, but the only thing that's stuck with me is the word 'ort'.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Pines of Rome

On the Dutoit Pines of Rome. It was a 1982 very early all-digital recording. … A few days ago my high-end Myrad CD player died. The company has been sold for its name to China. So no repairs or spare parts. I’ve been listening to the Dutoit Pines of Rome on the Myrad a lot for relaxation. The Myrad pre- and power amp system also has a Philips CD recorder linked in, which will play CDs too, which is what I have to use now. On the Philips, the CD definitely sounded dryer and thinner than before. So today I found my SACD of the Fritz Reiner / Chicago classic 1960 recording. Interestingly, they’ve re- mastered it for 5.1 on “3 track” – left, centre, right, as that’s how the mics were set when it was recorded. It’s hard to compare because it’s different speakers (MK 5.1 system), Sony AV amp etc and a Sony 4K HD blu-ray player which can play SACDs. It sounds WAY better.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Funny stuff - Shakespeare’s Dog, Bored of the Rings and Flashman

PV - I’ll check out Dan Brown; is he the pop writer with the movies? Canadian writer (originally from the US) Leon Rooke wrote Shakespeare’s Dog in the 80’s. It was clever and funny with what I thought was the correct lingo and some biographical details - I’d love to see Wes Anderson take a swing at it, in his animation style. A few months back I dug up my copy of Doug Kenny’s Bored of the Rings; it hasn’t aged too well but I was a big fan of it in 1970. And I’m in your debt for the Flashhman series.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Just letting you know that you have two friends that see these plagues as Mother Earth's understandable attempts to rid her house of a dangerous parasitic species. "How was I to know?", she asks, "They're so cute when they're young."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Dan Brown & Randy Newman

JQ: Have you been reading Dan Brown’s Inferno? The villain there aims to reduce humanity’s numbers. I think what Randy Newman was skewering so well in “don’t want hurt no kangaroo” is that (e.g.) Hitler was devoted to his Alsatian dog, Blondie who died with him. LBJ had five dogs in the White House. On the other hand, Donald Trump is averse to pets so it’s not universal.

I had a friend who had the “Inferno” view that plague, famine and war was the planet’s means of reducing our numbers so should not be curtailed. He kept three dogs and two rattlesnakes. We used to argue – my line being that is it justified to feed first class protein to dogs (and beef cattle are destroying the rain forest) while humans are going hungry.

Anyway, on Dan Brown, I’ll re-link my Dan Brown spoof, “The Shakespeare Cod Piece”. You have to have read Dan Brown.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Oversharing & RN’s misanthropy

Really Peter, scat humor is one thing but graphic personal details are OTT. I mean, I’m old too and my filters are worn thin, but still.

I think Randy N has always had a misanthropic thing and although the kangaroo note was obviously sarcastic, I’m not sure he would think humanity is the only important life here. Rather, I’d bet he’d agree that we’re the most destructive species around and a reduction in our numbers could benefit every other form of life.


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Posted by:

John D

Location: Canada

Subject: Natalie Merchant

Peter thank you for that version of Political Science. I had never heard her version before.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Oversharing!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Political Science

Political Science (aka "Let's drop the big one …") is an apposite Randy Newman song for 2019. As ever his lyrics have genius … the singer decides to save Australia because "we don't want to hurt no kangaroo". Sentimentality about animals while killing millions.

I commend the Natalie Merchant cover version linked. Natalie does few covers, but when she does them (Village Green Preservation Society, LearningThe Game, Political Science) she always brings something to the table.

I can never rid myself of a connotation. I travelled much with a very funny American publishers rep who knew a lot about music. When you're on the road, you tend to have hotel breakfast, then return to your room to clean your teeth and use the bathroom before a day when you'll be out all the time. You almost train yourself to want to use the facility right after breakfast. He always used to stand up after breakfast and say "Political Science Time." (i.e. let's drop the big one now).


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: He chases round the desert 'cause he thinks that's where I'll be ...

JQ: Yes, I think of the brilliant "Sail Away" as the Trump album - you've got The Big One, you've got casual racism, you've got nostalgia for what never was. Et cetera.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and Louuu would have been 77 two days ago.
March 2, 1942 – October 27, 2013
Coney Island Baby...Louuu Reed

And all your two-bit friends have gone and ripped you off
They're talking behind your back saying "man, you are never going to be no human being"
And you start thinking again about all those things that you've done
And who it was and what it was
And all the different things that made every different scene

Ah, but remember that the city is a funny place
Something like a circus or a sewer

And just remember, different people have peculiar tastes
And the

Glory of love
The glory of love
The glory of love, might see you through


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

April 3, 1943 - March 4, 1986...Richard Manuel.
I still cannot believe that JB is more popular and known than THE RICHARD MANUEL.

Last 5
Al Green...Livin' For You...Saw him at a Reggae Fest at Lamport Stadium!!!!
The Replacements...I'll Be You

Lonely, I guess that's where I'm from If I was from Canada
Then I'd best be called lonesome
And if it's just a game
Then I'll break down just in case
Oh yeah, we're runnin' in our last race

Robbie Robertson...The Right Mistake
Bob Seger...Night Moves...Great song that makes me increase pace of walking around indoor track at gym.
Willy DeVille of Mink DeVille...I Call Your Name...One of Crab's friends another friend who came with me to one of Garland Jeffreys' parties in NYC. Very interesting person as she works for a music company and has a Big Pink bag!!...Also....How cool and kind is this? She remembered I was a huge fan of Mink/Willy so when a friend of hers passed and everyone was allowed to take some things...She took video of one of their concerts for moi!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland.

Try Posted Sober, which was written in small town America, about a character from Hurricane, Utah, J Q.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks JQ. It is a great album. I saw Randy Newman a few years ago. We have a beautiful concert hall in Glasgow and it was just Randy and a beautiful piano. His diction was great in that rich, strong voice and he introduced every song with a story. One of my favourite concerts.

He was funny. He said he had three children a girl and two boys with the boys being born first. He said that if it had been the other way around, ‘he would have thought the other two were retards.’

Make sure you check out Michael Marra on YouTube, sometimes described as Scotland’s Randy Newman. I describe Randy Newman as America’s Michael Marra. The late Michel is that good. Peter and Roger will vouch for my recommendation. Thanks.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Good Old Boys

Hi Dunc - I listen to that one all the time, Sail Away too. They’ve both aged brilliantly and remain astonishingly relevant today.


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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: The serendipity of the GB

PETER! I have in front of me an American pressing of Charles Detoit and Orchestre symphonique de Montreal made from the same digital source, copyright 1983 (I can't find a recording date), Decca Record Company Limited, London, Mfg. by PolyGram, with the London logo on sleeve and disk. Found recently at what I think you call a Charity Shop. At first listen, admittedly in the car, I was disappointed at the sound, which I felt was a bit flat. Giving it another go this pm on headphones.

Been listening to a lot more classical lately, motivated by headphones at work being my primary listening time, since it is easier for me to work with music sans words. And there are still good and interesting disks to be found in said shops, usually a dollar a go. I skew to chamber music and concertos rather than symphonic pieces, but got this one because I remember having an LP of Resphighi with The Birds and I think the Fountains. At the time I lived in a large house full of plaster and wood. We put the LP on the turntable and a tape of a different performance in a good quality boombox. By playing them slightly out of sync we could ride gains on both, which, combined with the echo from the staircase produced the first and only performance of "Dub Respighi".

Taking an hour or two on Saturday mornings to sort and compile the vinyl piles in the back room, discovering things I forgot I had and many obtained in box lots that I never listened to. These will combine for my "last five":

Fandangoes In Space by Carmen. Largely pretentious prog-cum-classical rock, echos of King Crimson, Yes, etc. Probably not a keeper.

Chi Coltrane. Forget the album name. Vintage 1972, not sure if they thought she was going to be the next Janis or the next Carol King. Good players, mediocre record.

Benny Goodman Trio and Quartet Vol. I, After You've Gone. Part of a Bluebird reissue series on RCA. Great stuff and impressive fidelity for 1935-36.

A Little Touch of Schmilsson In the Night by Harry Nilsson. A before-it-got-trendy batch of standards arranged by Gordon Jenkins and sung by Harry. A bit same-ish and flat. But not without charm.

Gilberto Gil & Milton Nascimento. I can now say I have a CD "Heche En Chile". C. 2000, pleasant, not earth-shattering. A bit of a homemade feel.



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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Last five played

Lucinda Williams Lucinda Williams

Rab Noakes Red Pump Special

John James and Pete Berryman Sky In My Pie

Kevin Coyne with our own Pat B and some others One Day In Chicago

Randy Newman Good Old Boys


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Last Five

Timeless: A Tribute to Hank Williams

Ronnie Hawkins Sings The Songs of Hank Williams

Oneness by Devadip (aka Carlos Santana)

Candy Philosophy - Michael Marra

Vagabond - Spiers & Boden



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Posted by:

Bill M

Dag: Thanks for the latest.

Peter V: Thanks for pointing out the Hank on Toppermost. Very nice to see dlew's name, though I wish it was on one his typically top-notch posts here at the GB.


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Web: My link

Subject: The Band in 1975

The Band in 1975: The Basement Tapes, Northern Lights-Southern Cross, SNACK, Rolling Thunder Revue, Muddy Waters, Hirth Martinez.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I did not see the film "I Saw The Light", but I did see the musical "Hank Williams: Lost Highway" in NYC which I really enjoyed. I was never a huge fan but appreciated very much his vulnerability and the courage to share it...or did he have no choice? Whenever I'm in NYC I try to check out any musicals about musicians such as Patsy Cline, Tommy by The Who, Love, Janis, etc. The Life of Hank just happened to be performing in 2003. I took a chance and bought a ticket and was pleasantly surprised.....Many articles emphatically state that after World War 2 when especially men were going through a lot emotionally but not "allowed" to show emotion; that it was Hank who stood up and sang for all of them...I'm so lonesome I could cry.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Hank Williams - Toppermost

PV - Thanks for that!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Hank Williams

You might be interested in the latest Toppermost on Hank Williams, by "Dlew" aka David Lewis, Andrew Shields and Dave Stephens. A very thorough and thought-provoking analysis and choice. You can comment there.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: UK???

Norm - Just so you don’t get punched out never refer to Ireland as the U.K. Although that glorious empire does still include the 5 counties of Northern Ireland. And the mighty Falklands. The sun never sits, or where the sun don’t shine, etc.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Last 5 drug songs

David Wilcox - Chet Baker’s Unsung Swan Song (My Old Addiction)

Donovan - Sunny Googe Street. My my..

Nick Lowe - 12 Step Program. In the title only

Evan Dando - My Drug Buddy

Country Joe - Bass Strings


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Just had to ad

"Sonny's Dream" Ron Hynes was such a fine singer and writer and we lost him years ago and when I sit here looking out my window at the still water of the inlet on a beautiful sunny morning it is hard to keep back tears. (I'm a sailor you see.)

So many people have recorded this beautiful song and as I understand it is very popular in the UK, particularly in Ireland.

There is a particular recording of Ron singing this song on youtube that is just a wonderful sound with beautiful guitar work. Always makes me want to go to Newfoundland.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Songs That warm the heart

Song for the Life - from - Rodney Crowle

45 Years from Now - Stan Rogers song to his wife

I want to see your smilin' face 45 years from now....

Waylo - Ain't livin' long like this

Out among the stars - Adam Mitchell

Shame on the Moon - Bob Seger


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Needle Of Death

Peter V mentioned 'Needle Of Death'. This reminds me of DONOVAN's visit in Finland in 1966.

He played and sung in Midsummer fiesta, somewhere. Finnish public service TV wanted to make a program of him singing anti-war songs. The scene would have been WW2 Tank Museum. What a good idea! A bit dramatic with a tension. Donovan's manager said: "no, Donovan is against the war!" (How stupid a manager can be?) The scene his manager accepted was Finnish sauna - or actually in front of the sauna. Donovan wanted to sing 'Needle Of Death' but someone in the broadcasting company got panic: "he cannot sing about drugs in TV even if it is AGAINST drugs!"

Of course I have a pic of Donovan singing in Finnish sauna show but it is not possible to post links in this forum. (He had clothes on.)


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bob Dylan's Backing Bands


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Last Waltz and Heartworn Highways: two 40-year-old films at the birth of Americana
The Band’s Scorsese-helmed farewell couldn’t be more to different to the long-overlooked ‘outlaw country’
doc, but both are touchstones for today’s roots musicians


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

10 classic songs about small-town Canada
By Stacey McLeod
Fogerty's Cove...Stan Rogers for Lisa.

Last 5
I'll Take You There...The Staple Singers
This Is Where I Get Off...Robbie Robertson
I'm Sticking With You...The Velvet Underground
Bryan Adams and Sporty Spice...?
Your Song...Elton John


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Joyless list

It'd be a long list, and Blaxploitation soundtracks would add some. Freddie's Dead by Curtis Mayfield from Superfly is the one I thought of immediately.

Totally different topic, There are tales of CD decay over the years. I realized that the Charles Dutoit "Pines of Rome" I mentioned in "Last Five" is one of the first CDs I bought- 1983. Recorded digitally in 1982. Released on Decca, "Manufactured by Polygram, Hanover, Germany." Listened again today. It's still perfect.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

I think David P (RIP) would have appreciated this recent interview with Don Stevenson from Moby Grape. Apparently Don's been in Toronto since 2019, selling walk-in showers. The interviewer-writer really should know that Skip Spence's great solo album was "Oar", not "Aura".


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: A joyless compilation of related songs would also include "The Needle And The Damage Done" and "The Pusher".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: John Prine

I mentioned Sam Stone and Bert Jansch's Needle of Death … I thought they were anti-drugs songs from the point of view of tragic knowledge rather than the Frank Sinatra attitude which was merely preference for his own poison rather than someone else's. There's a whole other, related, genre there (led by those two songs)


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Monicer

Hey Haso, how you doing old son? I don't think we can match that Atlantic Sea board for cold. You New Englanders a damn tough folks. Handling those nails in that weather trying not to hit your fingers. The work we did when we were young. Now a day it's all staple and nail guns. Since I was a kid my brothers and friends called me "Stormin' Norman".

Many years ago when I was a fisherman in the off season it wasn't easy to get a job. People knew you were going to leave every summer. A lot of us had to create our own work. I was in the shake block business for quite a few years. You could find an area that had been logged or had a lot of wind fallen cedars and dead standing snags and apply for a salvage permit from the forest service. I had claims for quite some time. We would buck the logs into 24" blocks, trim them, sling them up with ropes fly them out to a road with helicopter, or if close enough right onto a barge and sell them to the cedar mills who produced the shakes and shingles. Made good money at it but hard work.

One very cold winter, right up to late April, early May some of the snags I fell when you split them were still ice inside. That is cold. There were a few times in the last few years my tug and barge iced up from freezing spray. I'll shoot you a picture of my barge. I came back from 10 days in Mexico a few years ago. Got on my tug and headed right up to Rivers Inlet where my brother was. We had to load out old logging equipment to take to the scrap recycling outfit My barge iced up it was so cold and coming where I just came from I near cried. The stay wires for the towers that lift my loading ramp, those wires are inch and a half cable. By the time I got to Campbell River they were about 4 inch and the whole bow was solid ice.

About an hour and a half down Island is Mount Cain where there is a ski village. One of my best friends here has a cabin up there and he is a snow board guy.

If you haven't before I'd like you and JQ to search out on youtube, "Mary Ellen Carter" Stan Rogers. The video is great. At the beginning an old seaman from down your way, with a wonderful accent that gives me a chuckle gives his account of a coal ship he was on going down and how he is convinced Stan Rogers song Mary Ellen Carter saved him. It is pretty touching.

Stan was such a wonderful word - smith. This song is a great example.

"She went down last October in a pouring driving rain,

The skipper he'd been drinkin' and the mate he felt no pain,

Too close to Three Mile rock and she was dealt her fateful blow.

And the Mary Ellen Carter settled low.

There was just us five aboard her when she finely was awash,

We worked like hell to save, all heedless of the cost,

And the groan she gave when she went down it caused us to proclaim,

We'll make the Mary Ellen Carter rise again..........


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Norm Cash

Hi Haso - I was a fan too. In addition to the year, 1961, he hit .361 (that’s strictly from memory so the stat and year might be wrong) NC was also the last guy in MLB to have never worn a batting helmet.


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: snow

Norm, or more appropriately to remember my favorite 1st baseman from my high school years, "Stormin' Norman" (Cash... Detroit Tigers): good on your friends. Yeah, I understand the reluctance... although working outside, as I do also, the wind is worse than the powder. Coldest day of my life probably... shingling a cheek-roof on Moody Beach, ME one January. -5 w/ the wind distinctly on-shore from the North Atlantic. And of course roofing nails are 1 1/4" so heavy gloves, leather or other are totally effin' useless. That said, no doubt life on a tug in your lands/seas be way worse.

Anyway, been riding about 25+ years. Rest of the family does all that 2 board/ 2 pole deal(too much moving stuff, from my pt. of view). Kind of a bucket list thing that I want to experience the Canadian Rockies in winter. My spouse (skiing since 13 yrs old) used to be the more aggressive one but not now-a-days; I may have to draft one of my kids to ever get to Fernie or Revelstoke. She just about gave it up completely last winter... terrible conditions (if you've never skied New England, you don't know from ice), a Saturday and way too many folks from states south of here. Anyway, she is actually the impetus behind tomorrow's trip to a little area roundabouts, overlooking a pretty lake. Have to admit that that's also due to going to western Vermont on Monday after a lot of rain and the mountain ultimately closing before even starting up when they recorded their highest windspeed ever at the peak: 102 mph. Norm, at your place in life, taking up a new sport is probably easily outweighed by a warm wood stove and the like. Like Lisa, I'll leave the rest of educatin' ye laddie to Susan.


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Posted by:

Lisa

I'll leave that to Susan.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Fernie

Hey Haso! damn good to hear from you boy. Fernie, what a gorgeous little town. I was thru there about a year and a half ago. Heading for the Crow's Nest Pass heading out to Saskatchewan.

Now I got to tell you Haso, when it comes to snow you are talking to the wrong guy. I hate that stuff so much I don't even like to look at it on a post card! As a young guy working in the bush logging I slogged my ass thru that on days when we had to keep working. I have friends who LOVE snow boarding. Now listen to me carefully. I have skied a lot. Miles and miles, and parasailed. When I ski, it is on water! on very sunny days, on one ski with a rope handle in one hand and a beer in the other...........OR in a parasail.....with binoculars in one hand to look at all the naked ladies sun bathing..........just joking Lisa....don't slap me!


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: cascadia

Having lived in So-Cal as a lad, w/ family in both So-Cal and Bay area now, I'd bet CA would likely prefer to go all on their own than get lumped in w/ the Cascades or the Rockies. Hey, Norm: if you guys went off, would it be any easier for me to get go "riding" (one board, not two) in the back country around Fernie? Other than it being a long way from seacoast NH.

Peter: perhaps more 'n' more of us might want to move north (either side of the Manitoba line) if'n we can't rid ourselves of Agent Orange pretty damn soon. On the other hand, well hooray for government by Tony Soprano.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Norm, I've gotten so furious with nuisance calls our land phone is permanently on answering machine. It's ridiculous - I've even been woken up at 4:30 in the morning by them. They're utterly shameless!!!


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: Peter V's anti

Peter: haven't read Norm yet, other than to see the Hag there. My question, do they have to be anti-counter culture? Admittedly so much of r 'n' r is its own anti- deal, but right away on seeing your post I just went right away to John Prine's self-titled 1st lp. "Illegal Smile", "Donald & Lydia", "Paradise", "Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore", "Sam Stone", etc.; you can read much of Prine either way I think... counterculture or definitely not cc.

At least I've got more chance of making a (relatively) intelligent contribution than the Anglocana and Canaocana discussion. Thanks for keeping us going w/ interesting topics.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Days of Yor er your uunh Yer

T'hell with it!........just f---it. I'm going to go back to the days when y'got a phone on the wall. You pick up the receiver and crank a handle to get an operator (that is if no one is on the "party line".

I'm sitting at my desk just now and I'm waiting for an important call. I get another call y'know (unknown number). This kid has an accent, I dunno India, Bangla Desh, Pakistan. "Hello sir, I am calling you.....yawns...about your computer". I'm tired of even being rude!


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Posted by:

Lisa

Hey Peter, I was at that concert too!

In 1990 Alberta might have been included, but right now things aren't too friendly between Alberta and B.C. (pipeline issues),


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Sockeye

Your sockeye most likely from Bristol Bay Peter a really good fish. I eat some coho, some spring salmon and some pink, but nothing compares to sockeye. I fished sockeye for 32 years. Now I have to sport catch some but that is ok. We have to have all our jars of sockeye done up for the winter. Also I smoke it and pickle it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Last Five

A Rainbow In Curved Air: Terry Riley. An all time favourite.

The Pines of Rome, Respighi. Charles Dutoit & Montreal version (sorry, Norm, recorded in Quebec!)

Lines Part One: The Unthanks

Country Classics Vol 2, free CD with Sunday Times 20+ years ago. Particularly taken by Ernest Tubbs & Loretta Lynn on "Thanks A Lot." This week's earworm.

Hi-Fidelity Stereo. One of the new Sainsburys supermarket series with interesting selections … I Saw The Light, Todd Rundgren; Questions- Moody Blues, Avalon - Roxy Music, Wondrous Stories - Yes, Tubular Bells (45 single version).

The Unthanks one mildly pisses me off, and they're one of my favourite groups. LINES is a 3 CD set costing £31.99. Then it turns out the CDs range from 21 minutes to 33 minutes. The whole lot comes to 76 minutes 29 seconds. In other words, it would have fitted onto one CD.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: If the rule was that borders are determined by rational people on rational bases, then Cascadia would make sense as long as it was from the Rockies west. Which would leave out most of Alberta, a bit of NE BC, some of Alaska and, as noted previously, some of Idaho. I'd think that all of California would want to be in, but what the rational southern border of California would be I'll leave for others to determine.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I had thought (as John says) that Alberta was included in this 1990s thinking. Talk of the bit of California north of San Francisco too. I still have my Calgary Stampede 1994 poster, though I think I’ve finally got rid of the last bit of incredibly tenacious mud from Alberta. Glad it was a rental car.

Tonights dinner has "Wild Alaskan Sockeye salmon" on the packet.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Robbie Robertson: jazz fan

I know I've mentioned Robbie's old Consuls / Suedes colleague Peter DeRemigis, aka Pete the Bear, a number of times over the years, and I may have mentioned his book of reminiscences, "Toronto's Secret: learning music playing Rock and Roll", which I finally got around to buying in Victoria three weeks ago and finishing just yesterday. There's a fair bit of Robbie in the book, but not much new news. Still, the following seems worth repeating:

"Unlike Peter Michaud and Gene MacLellan [other Toronto guitarists that Peter played with in the late '50s] whose roots were in country music, Robbie's playing those haunting Bo Diddley progressions like what he played the first time I saw him [in late '58 or early '59 with Robbie and the Robots] suggest that his style was informed by Rhythm and Blues. But what few are aware of is Robbie's almost devout interest in progressive jazz; whenever he and The Hawks came back to Toronto I remember his invitation: 'Bear', let's go listen to some jazz or words to that effect, and we'd head off to the First Floor Club near Asquith and Yonge and silently absorb the scattered sounds of the latest jazz inventions."


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Cross over

No worries John. I'm sure the salmon you refer to is farm salmon. If you got the whole offensive line of the Calgary Stampeders to hold me down you couldn't stuff that shit in my mouth!


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Posted by:

John D

Location: Canada

Another thing Norm. WENT OUT TO DINNER WITH MY BOSS AND SOME OF HIS FRIENDS. ALL FROM B.C. After a few cocktails they really got to talking about where I came from in Ontario. They told me (and I have heard this was/is true) that salmon caught in B.C. was more expensive in Vancouver than it was; in Toronto; after being shipped here.


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Posted by:

John D

Location: Canada

SORRY NORM. Just saw your post; after posting mine. Apologies. Never heard about Idaho; just the two Canadian provinces and the two American states. Carry on.


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Posted by:

John D

Location: Canada

Subject: North western Canada and North western U.S.

This story seems long forgotten; but back in the mid 70's; when I was living in Vancouver, there a great deal of anger towards Ottawa; from the North Western Canadian side and the same went for the U.S. in dealing with Washington.

Now this never really got off the ground; but there were those from British Columbia, Alberta, Washington State & Oregon; who wanted to break away; from their respective countries. The rumour was they wanted to form their own country called the Pacific Northwest. It would have been interesting....eh?


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Cascadia

I spoke of this some years back Peter. There was a time when many people were advocates of a country consisting of Oregon, Washington State, part of Idaho, British Columbia, South East Alaska and the Yukon. To be called either Cascadia or Pacific Northwest.

It is easy to understand. From the Cascade Mountains and west of the Rockie Mountains north to Alaska there is a commonality that is not shared to the east. The population of the eastern provinces and eastern states dictate governmental concerns that leave us on the outside looking in too often.

One prime minister at one point "John Crietchen (I don't think I spelt that right). Anyway he made some pretty disparaging remarks making it clear he didn't have much time for us out here. I can't remember his exact words but they were very rude. He got himself in trouble and still made it clear he didn't much give a shit. That attitude is shared by a lot back there.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Pat. I focussed on the keyboards last time I listened to it. I know that guy playing keyboards I said to my wife. Really enjoyed your playing, Pat. I don't know how you achieved that variety and complexity of keyboard music in one day. Love your musical inputs on 'Britischer Cowboy' - a great depth and variety of playing on one track. Great effect on 'Over Land And Sea'. And a great solo on'Scene of the Crime'. Don't know how you achieved it in a day. Great playing.

Thanks Bill M. You have got me into playing and reading about 'R Dean Taylor'. First Tamla white artist with a US Number 1. I really only know (and really like) his three UK hits, which did get a lot of airplay 'Gotta See Jane', 'Indiana Wants Me', which I owned, and 'There's A Ghost In This House'. It's the latter which is the big Northern Soul favourite.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I guess the other side is that a 52 or 53 state USA with those Western Canadian additions might never have voted for Trump in the first place!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: O Canada

Norm, you’ve just taken me back QUARTER OF A CENTURY. Shit! 1994. Vancouver, and I got to see The Band at the Vogue Theatre. While we were there, they were taking down the bilingual English-French signs in the Pacific Centre and replacing them with English-Chinese, based on the city’s demographic. This was apparently illegal and causing some discussion. There was an article suggesting that British Columbia and Alberta would be far better off in the USA.

Fast forward those 25 years. You’d be in Trump’s America. Ouch! If I ask any British people who’ve visited both countries, the preference is for Canada (sorry, US readers). It has the good stuff from the USA, but then it has a health service, gun control, much cleaner streets. I prefer Vancouver to San Francisco and Toronto to New York too. It’s hard to say count your blessings … but count your blessings.

In every country in the world the ruling political party favours the areas that voted for it. In Blair’s Britain, my town, Poole, had vastly overcrowded schools. We’d drive to Wales along unlit pot-holed English motorways and cross the border to find the motorways pristine and lit all night. Cardiff was a building site with massive public-funded projects. Areas that voted Labour got all the money. Then the Conservatives got in, and at last we in Poole got our much-needed lifting harbour bridge (though now it’s often closed for repairs having been built by the companies that “obtained the contracts”).


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Give Him a Chance!

Jan you can delete this if you like. Don't like to use your forum, but I don't know any other way to contact these guys.

After our last federal election, Kevin John said to me on this page, "Give him a chance" referring to Justin Trudeau. Well he's had his chance. Isn't it funny how when our federal government is run by people from Quebec it is always companies from Quebec that get illegal contracts, tax breaks and all other sorts of corruption.

There is a good reason why we in the west would welcome a border about between Manitoba and the eastern corruption. It is disgusting.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Devil Rides Out

The 60s Retrospective series continues focussing on 1968 with cult Hammer Horror film, The Devil Rides Out (LINKED) with Christopher Lee, Charles Gray, Patrick Mower. It got the spicier title The Devil’s Bride in the USA. Read about it even if you haven’t seen it. It was towards the end of that genre.

QUOTE: The Devil Rides Out harks back to a time when satanic forces could be defeated by a good sock on the jaw, daylight and the odd silver cross.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Untouchables

JQ I watched a few minutes of this interrogation and it really puts me in mind of Robert Meuller being like Elliot Ness. So far his crew have seemed "untouchable" as there has been no talking, tweeting or otherwise.

Lets hope that every one gets to know every thing that he has to offer. Coverups now could start a civil war in that country. It really seems like the fall of the USSR. I don't recall a time in our life time that the states were so divided on their political attitudes.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Fightin' Side of Merle

There you go., Linked.

Okie is already there- in one of the longer sections.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: I’m pretty sure that trump is being distracted from saving us.

Trump is being eviscerated by his personal lawyer. It’s brilliant and juicy. There’s no huge surprises but some details are filled in. The republicans are dutiful. It’s quite reminiscent of the mob/mafia hearings when someone near the Godfather turns.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Hag

If yer lookin' to source Merle Haggard Bill. Look up on youtube, "The Fightin Side of Me" and attach here. The hook line in the song??

"When your runnin' down my country, you're walkin' on the fightin' side of me"


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: We'll, there's "Okie From Muskogee", but it's rather gentle. It drew an interesting retort from the Janis-less Big Brother and the Holding Company, "I'll Fix Your Flat Tire, Merle".


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Posted by:

Pat B

Dunc, thanks. We really did do that album in one day. KC could make up songs on the spot.

PV, Aunty Grizelda? Oh, wait...


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
A potential H bomb

God save the queen
She's not a human being
and There's no future
And England's dreaming

God Save The Queen...Sex Pistols...We are future No Future

I am an antichrist
I am an anarchist
Don't know what I want
But I know how to get it
I wanna destroy passer by

Anarchy In The UK...As well as others like EMI, etc....Sex Pistols

It's up to you not to heed the call-up
'N' you must not act the way you were brought up
Who knows the reasons why you have grown up?
Who knows the plans or why they were drawn up?

It's up to you not to heed the call-up
I don't wanna die!
It's up to you not to hear the call-up
I don't wanna kill!

For he who will die
Is he who will kill

The Call Up...The Clash as well aa many many other songs as well as by progressive Punk Bands and Ska Bands who were especially anti-racist anTd who were anti-establishment. I just remembered I have not finished reading The Clash Return Of The Last Ghost In Town...Marcus Gray. When I saw The Clash at an outdoor venue...I only remember Brand New Cadillac. On the same bill...I can't remember Black Uhuru at all. :-(


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

The link goes to a new article on “Anti Songs.” That is songs which protested against the counter culture, protest, long hair and so on. Some vehement stuff there from The Spokesmen on Dawn of Correction to Nancy and Frank Sinatra on Life’s A Trippy Thing. Suggestions welcome for more.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

The Meet on the Ledge collection is available on Spotify.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dunc: It's been a good week for R Dean Taylor here at the GB - two mentions within days when he's usually go half-a-decade between nods.

He had an interesting career. Here's his first, and I think best - and also most Hawksish - a rockabilly tune from '62. Robbie's buddy Pete Traynor on bass, and another long-time acquaintance, Jack Posluns, on drums. R Dean plays piano like Jerry Lee Lewis and sings like Ronnie Hawkins (sorta). He was very young then, but squeezed in another 45 for a US label (Amy-Mala) before moving to Detroit. (He'd been blackballed on Yonge Street, apparently, for demanding he be paid union scale.) Somehow he wangled his way into the Motown operation where he co-wrote a Supremes hit - "Love Child" or "Living Here In Shame", I believe - and some other songs for other label artists, did a couple of Motown records of his own, and got Jack Posluns the drummer gig with Marvin Gaye's touring band. As a Canadian, he was also given the job of working with Motown's Canadian signings - the Mynah Birds (with whom he co-wrote published songs) and Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers. By the way, both Traynor and Posluns also played on Johnny Rhythm's only 45 (as Johnny Rhythm, at least) at about the same time - so after the Suedes had split.

Berry Gordy then gave him an executive role (in A&R) with Motown's new pop label, Rare Earth, which went on to release several RDT 45s and an album, and at least two 45s by other stray Canucks - one by Wes Henderson, a former member of Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers, and one by Allan Nichols, who became a regular part of filmmaker Robert Altman's troupe from "Nashville" on (plus he's the willy-waving hockey player in "Slapshot").

I love it when someone like Dunc and Mike N mention a thing like "Slapshot" (or is it "Slap Shot"?) and it turns up in a totally different conversation within days.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I think it's vinyl only, Dunc. Sainsburys label which is called "Own Label" (a good name, as it is!)


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

I'm enjoying your work, Pat B on 'One Day In Chicago'. Great musicianship. It's a good album. Really enjoyed your keyboard work. Many in the UK appreciated Kevin. I think issuing Marjory Razorblade as a double hindered his career. Having said that I appreciate the double album and play it to this day. Kevin is Anglicana -'living in a small bungalow about five miles from the sea'. His greatest songs are oustanding.

I looked to buy 'Meet On The Ledge' on CD, Peter. There are two collection already with this name - a collection of Island folk rock and a collection of Fairport, but couldn't get the album you describe. Coincidentally, I streamed Lindisfarne 'River Sesssions' on Friday and really enjoyed the album. I owned Fog on the Tyne back in the day. I googled Lindisfarne and Rab Noakes because I love 'Together Forever' and came across a picture of an album on vinyl with Rab Noakes and Lindisfarne on separate tracks entitled 'BBC Transcription Services'. Never heard of this before.

Of the lesser known acts, I did see Magna Carta twice, but have been youtubing the other artists.

I played and enjoyed Jackie Shane tracks on Youtube the last time she was mentioned in the GB. Thanks Bill M et al. When reading about her, the general consensus was that she was little known out of Toronto. Some (a few?) of her records are Northern Soul classics. A few of R. Dean Taylor's songs are also Northern Soul Classics. It's the song not the artist which attracts these fanatics.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Money

Interesting. The Jackie Shane version sounds almost like Parchman Farm. It sent me to Barrett Strong original which also has piano at the fore, but has terrific drumming. Then The Beatles and whatever, John Lennon's vocal (as on Twist & Shout) is way above any other attempt on the songs. The indistinct cassette of Levon & The Hawks doing it indicate they had heard Barrett Strong of course, but the reason it was in their act at that time was surely because of The Beatles.


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Posted by:

Bill M

On another subject entirely, I've been listening to Bob Dylan's "Time Out of Mind", and find that two songs echo "Get Hour Rocks Off" from the "Basement Tapes" - "'Til I Fell In Love With You" and "Highlands". But the latter also moves towards "Clothes Line Saga" territory in and around the hardboiled-eggs verses. And that album was from 1987, long after the BTs were made and long before they were revived. Not that there's anything wrong with copying oneself - or this place would be thin gruel.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

BEG: Thanks for the link to the Shane / Bowman thing. n/ Perter V: Some years ago on "Money", which both the Hawks and the Motley Crew (i.e, Jackie Shane's group) played the song regularly in the early and mid '60s. The link is to a 1965/66 reissue of Jackie's version, which first appeared in 1962 on Frank Motley and the Motley Crew's only album. (Rob Bowman didn't mention the album at all in the recent Jackie Shane reissue, unfortunately.) The Hawks and the Motley Crew were both Yonge Street stalwarts so would have been familiar with one another, at least from a distance, but I imagine they knew the song from the radio rather than from the other group's stage act.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jackie Shane and Rob Bowman


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Plainsong etc

Bill, the Magna Carta contribution is Airport Song, followed by Ian Matthews with Thro My Eyes. Plainsong (the Ian Matthews band) is For The Second Time. I've linked that one from YouTube.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for the post about "Meet On The Ledge". It's something I'll watch for, as I love all the songs you mentioned. I suppose it has a one-song-per limit; without that, I would have filled half of the two LPs with the full "I Wat To See The Bright Lights Tonight" album. By the way, is the Magna Carta song "Lord Of The Ages"? If so, that alone would make me by the thing if it was on CD. And is Plainsong the Ian Matthews project?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: John The Baptist

In case anyone has forgotten, Levon Helm plays on John & Beverley Martyn's "John The Baptist."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Meet On The Ledge (A Taste of Folk Rock)

One for Dunc andRoger. I've spent two afternoons enjoying a Sainsburys supermarket double LP on vinyl: "Meet On The Ledge: A Taste of Folk Rock." It's curated by Bob Stanley (of St Etienne) who compiles the brilliant Ace CD compilations. It's 180 gram vinyl and sounds superb. The Sainsburys own label albums are apparently highly collectible, but our local only has this Bob Stanley one and none of the others. It's £20 or on an offer of two LPs for £25. So I got the remastered The Wall double LP for my second one.

The Taste of Folk is a brilliant mix of the obvious (John The Baptist by John & Beverley Martyn, Witches Promise by Jethro Tull, Meet On the Ledge by Fairport, I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight by Richard and Linda Thompson, John Barleycorn Must Die by Traffic, Lady Eleanore by Lindisfarne) with the less known - Forest, Dr Strangely Strange, Bill Fay, Tudor Lodge, Cob, Brother John, Magna Carta, Plainsong etc. The secret of the compilation is that the lesser known ones are really good and stand up to comparison.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Enjoying all the links and mentioned bands, Bill M and Bonk. But I know little of them.

Great Zombies track, Norm. Was playing an album Zombies As and Bs yesterday.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Friday's Picks

The Association --- Never My Love

Merrilee Rush --- Angel of the Morning

Classic V1 --- Stormy

Zombies --- Time of the Season

Skylark --- Wildfire

And a bit of "Canadiana" Stampeders ---Sweet City Woman


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Posted by:

Bill M

Bonk: Interesting thought about Jackie Shane. Could be, but I doubt it. I got her number from Frank Motley, who was in the phonebook. I spoke to her three or four times circa 1995 and that was it. Because Jackie asked after Steve Kennedy, I gave Steve her number. Ditto Motley Crew bassist Larry Ellis. Both spoke with her, likely just once each. Eventually, 12 or 15 years later, Steve's wife, who worked at the CBC, produced a radio documentary done by a young Toronto woman. Jackie's old number no longer worked, so Jackie wasn't interviewed, but Steve was -saying that someone had given him Jackie's number maybe five years earlier and that he'd called it and they'd had a chat. After that there was a sudden trans-Atlantic upsurge of interest and a bunch of UK and US soul fanatics went to Nashville and tracked her down. One of them made personal contact and hooked her up with a record company, who pulled in Rob Bowman to do the liner notes - and Rob spoke to her for hours. And then after the CD set came out and got a Grammy nomination, someone arranged for Jackie to call the same young woman who'd made the radio documentary and they spoke for the first time just weeks ago. Personally, I'm convinced it was always the real Jackie, based on the checkable details she discussed - and more importantly the confirmation of her identity by three people who'd played with her in the '60s - Frank, Steve and Larry.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Jackie Shane

That is sad news Bill. I was so wishing her album would have won a Grammy. Seems strange her passing and the Grammys being so close together. I've often wondered if it was actually Jackie that Bowman, yourself and others talked to in the last few years. Food for thought.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: RIP Peter Tork

Former Monkee Peter Tork passes on. In Rolling Stone article "A Lost Tell-All Interview on His Sixties Glory Years" Peter mentions The Band and Big Pink....interviewer:Did anyone give you shit for being in the Monkees or treat you with any less respect than if you were in some other band?

Not that I know of. There was all that stuff about the Monkees, there was a huge controversy about the Monkees not playing their own instruments, being a commercial band, and the truth is, as far as I can tell and as far as I’m concerned, like I said, the Who came over…they hadn’t heard Music from Big Pink, the Band’s album, and I played that, I had a decent stereo system, and I played that beginning to end, and Peter [Townshend] came over to me and said, “It’s really rare,” as it was in those days, particularly rare, “to hear an album that was good from beginning to end.” Because obviously, you had a hit, you cranked out an album, and the album was mediocre except for the hits. That was the custom, and everybody sort of expected it, but Big Pink was good from beginning to end, and those guys were…they saw me for who I was and what I was and what I was doing, and they knew exactly what was happening.

Interesting stuff.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Jackie Shane, RIP

I know this news will hit Bonk, as he actually saw Jackie in person. I didn't, though I did speak with her on the phone a few times. Nice to go out on a high note, I suppose - nomination of her CD reissue package for a Grammy - but a win would have been nicer still.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Canadiana

All right then. Don Messers Hoedown!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Lindsay Andersons If ....

My series of retrospective reviews of late 60s films is back with my favourite of all, Lindsay Anderson's "If ....". Link to review.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dunc: He's the post I forgot to post - Red Shea as a member of Larry Lee and the Leesures in 1962. Musically, these guys were Ronnie Hawkins / Hawks wannabees, obviously; socially, the two groups were very close, living down the hall from each other in a Toronto hotel, and getting together to share stories, music and liquor. The music must have included tapes, because the Leesures album that this song comes from includes a couple songs Hawkins / Hawks had recorded with Henry Glover in '61 but didn't see the light of day until Roulette released the "Best of Ronnie Hawkins" LP in '64 (and only in Canada).

Anyway, I really like Red Shea's playing. If you go to YouTube and search "red shea moon boogie twist" you'll get his 'solo' instrumental record with the Leesures, where he starts in country boogie mode and moves into Robbie style R&B for a bit.


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Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Watkins Glen cd

Well, as I posted when Pat B revealed the painful truth many years ago, they fooled me! Back then I lauded the atmosphere on this "gig", and I still do, be it fake or not… If even told Pat that I wished I had been there…


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Posted by:

Pat B

Well, Dag, you've certainly put to rest a few outstanding questions about the infamous Watkins Glen CD. It seems RR produced it in late 73--early 74 and mastered it for album release. That certainly explains its short length (45 minutes). I can't imagine the group didn't know about the questionable sources. In fact it almost makes sense when you couple it with the Basement Tapes release from the same period. Why would Capitol release it in 94? Boots of WG were fairly common and the differences are ridiculously apparent.


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Web: My link

Subject: The Band in 1972-73

Rock of Ages (Point of Reflection), Moondog Matinee, Watkins Glen (Is Everybody Wet?), Roosevelt Stadium, Recording session with Peter Yarrow & Paul Simon, Dylan tour announced, and more.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Bonk: I'd love to add something by the Diamonds if I was aware of anything that struck me as specifically (or even arguably) Canadian. Ditto the Crew Cuts, Four Lads, Paul Anka and a bunch of successful others. Not that they're not Canadian, just that their music doesn't strike me as Canadiana.

Coincidentally, I've been digging a bit into the Diamonds of late. When their original lead singer, Dave Somerville left in '61, he was replaced by Jim Malone from the Blue Tones - see link for their great but only record from 1957; I love the guitar work by Toronto sessionman Eddie Lecuyer. And when Malone left a few years later, he was replaced by Don Weir, whose brother Ian was in a shortlived 1970 version of Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Bill M and Dunc. Canadiana

How about The Diamonds.


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Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Songs of the 49th Parallel

K.d. Lang makes a pretty good list, though no Robbie Robertson, Acadian Driftwood would have fitted the album. K.d. Lang in herself is essential.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dunc: "Song For A Winter's Night" is indeed a Lightfoot song, though Sarah McLachlan certainly did it justice. Here's a link to Gord performing it in '67 - just about when Sarah was born, I'd say. Note the playing of his longtime accompanist, Red Shea - and watch for the ensuing post.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Hi Bill, oh, I wish - lots of snow for this area. Winter begins in February around here - it did this last year too. No, I tend to sit back in amazement at the amount of knowledge around here. I think Stan Rogers was a national treasure and love Barrett's Privateers but that song is one of my worst earworms. Almost as bad as the guards marching song at the end of The Wizard of Oz :-) Earworms ...

I looked up the history of Barrett's Privateers once. The lyrics are so rousing (and horrific if you listen to them) that it sounded like an actual event, but it wasn't!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Just found out the song I suggested by Gordon Lightfoot is by a Canadian singer songwriter Sarah McLaughlin. (Not sure of spelling). Huge amount of hits on YouTube. I listen to Gordon Lightfoot singing it. So the excellent Canadian Railroad Trilogy instead for Gordon? Will check out others.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Lisa: Good to hear from you. I was wondering if you were holidaying in some warm, far-off place. Good suggestion. I'm sure Norm will jump in to plump for "Barrett's Privateers"; would you pre-agree.

And there's Daniel Lanois. "Acadie"? Something else?

Dunc again: If Lightfoot is allowed just one song, I think it has to be "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" - not because of the title but because after 50+ years it still sends shivers down our spines. (Yes, we have them.)


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dunc: Thanks for the encouragement. The Canadiana double album couldn't be without "Running Back To Saskatoon" by the Guess Who and "At The Hundredth Meridian" by the Tragically Hip (which I suspect most Canadians would see as 'our' bands - along with Rush of course).


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Posted by:

Lisa

Stan Rogers!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Slapshot

Love the film, Mike. Never seen it for years. Absolutely love sport. Will seek out the song. Nice to hear from you.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Canadiana

Really enjoyed Walking Down Yongue Street on a Friday, Bill M. Took me back to my youth...something about a Friday. Ah the passing of youth. Surely a Canadiana must.

Great post Beg. I love the alliteration in 'Bought me a fish to fry'. Also, I play both these songs by Joni and Neil. Know them well. Definitely brilliant Canadiana.

And then you need something from Gordon Lightfoot. I remember Kevin telling me that he was respected in Canada because he remained living there. I thought his concert in Scotland was great, but I really only know the greatest hits and a few more. But out of that few more I would select the beautiful 'Song For A Winter's Night'. Just a love song but I think the setting of winter after Bill's earlier posts gives it that Canadiana feel. But maybe one of the great songs would be a better choice.

I think you need Hank Snow's 'Canadian Pacific'. When I saw Ramblin' Jack Elliot in Glasgow, he said that all the best singers come from Canada. He finished by saying Hank Snow was a great singer. So I think for the double album of Canadiana, you need about twenty different songs by twenty different artists. Apart from Leonard Cohen, I'll not be much more help.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Dunc: Unsure if you’ve ever seen the movie Slapshot (or is it Slap Shot?), starring Paul Newman, but the sound track contains a catchy little ditty called A Little Bit South of Saskatoon. I believe the singer is Sonny James. A hockey fan, I try to watch the DVD version every 2-3 years when I need a laugh. Terrific hockey violence, too, if that’s your thing.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

BEG: If Joni, then certainly "River" and "Raised On Robbery". And from a different subgenre there's K-os's great "Crabbucket" (linked): "Walking down Yonge Street on a Friday …"


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Dunc...Canadiana...Helpless by Neil Young.

There is a town in North Ontario
Dream comfort memory to spare (I never heard the line correctly lol).
And in my mind I still need a place to go
All my changes were there

Joni Mitchell...A Case Of You

On the back of a cartoon coaster
In the blue TV screen light
I drew a map of Canada
Oh Canada
With your face sketched on it twice

I adore her line "Love is touching souls". After reading latest bio on Joni. It was Leonard Cohen who said this to her.
I have always loved Down By The Henry Moore by Murray Mclauchlan. I was just in Kensington Market this week because the best prices for supplements are there as well as is my fave vintage/second hand store. I also like hearing the loud reggae piping through on one of the streets.

Bill M...I've been to Jamaica three times with friends from Westmoreland. We visited Dylan's Sav La Mar to Ocho Rios to Negril Beach and stayed with their family in Montego Bay and Kingston. I can't recall any enforcers lol. I have to admit that the two times I wondered off by myself...drama ensued. Luckily a friend from Guyana who I shared a home with for a couple of years taught me to just be super calm in dicey situations and yes I was fine but I was scared at the time.

Last Five
Set Adrift On Memory Bliss...I was never a fan of Spandau Ballet but I like how they are spliced here in this song.
Valentine's Day...Steve Earle...Good to listen to when your valentine has set adrift.
Live On Bleecker Street...Willie Nile...I have seen him perform with Garland Jeffreys more than once. High energy guy from Buffalo.
Tuff Gong Jr....One of Bob Marley's sons. Downloaded the song but don't recall the name.
Cloud Busting...Kate Bush...Really miss her.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Peter V: I can't believe I didn't event think of Amazing Blondel's "England" album when we started talking Anglicana - it's the absolute cat's meow. The "Landscapes" side was played frequently by CHUM-FM's DJs (likely including John D) in the early '70s, and until it appeared on CD I always kept a spare copy for when my first copy wore out. Oddly enough, almost every copy I've ever seen in used-record stores as been brand spanking mint. As if nobody but me played their copy more than once.


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Posted by:

Peter V

More Anglicana (but I'll place it in the "Folk" section), I picked up a 1972 LP "England" by Amazing Blondel" yesterday. In pristine condition- it's a good sign when you look at the inner sleeve on an old album and see that it's an "archive quality anti-static" sleeve. These were really expensive and only bought by fanatically careful owners. It's a beautiful album too. Listened right through yesterday afternoon.


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Posted by:

Ernst Kloimwieder

Location: Österreich

Subject: Super Seite

Hallo komme aus Österreich und ich finde eure Seite voll toll LG Ernst


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks Pat. That’s good. I saw two great different concerts with Kevin. I just bought the Chicago album and Sugar Candy Taxi. I wanted to buy the album with Bath in the background which I once owned and the famous live album too, but crazy prices for those.I’m improving the Anglicana section of the collection.

That would tie in Dag as the term was invented in Dundee on 7th October 1963.

Interesting thoughts Bill M, but I would choose Acadian Driftwood. Our boys across here are defined as Americana and ‘The Weight’ as the defining song. I thought Peter got really. Interesting on Anglicana with the selection of specific songs. So you’ve got to think of a double album of Canadiana songs. Two musts from this intruder are

Four Strong Winds by Ian and Sylvia Tyson

Down By The Henry Moore by BARK


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: BF4

JQ/Peter V: "Another Sad And Lonely Night" is also a great side. In fact, I've never heard anything by Fuller that wasn't great - but little by anyone of the day tops "I Fought The Law". Music aside, R Dean Taylor didn't do too well against the law either, and he just had to worry about the police from Indiana, not the Texas State Troopers like Bobby. Bob Marley did better, obviously, but I suspect that the Sheriff was unarmed, Jamaican bobbies likely being patterned after the English at the time. BEG might be able to say for sure.


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Location: Pepperland
Web: My link

Subject: Beatlemania

This Associated Press story appeared in dozens of North American newspapers in late October 1963.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Dunc, KC was sober when I knew him but he was in failing health. He was one funny human being.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bobby Fuller

Hi Peter - I watched the brilliant Fantastic Mr Fox the other day and it ends with Let Her Dance. Also recently, I listened to David Lindley and Rossy’s take on I Fought The Law from a record DL made with artists from Madagascar; Henry Kaiser was in on that one too. And I really like Bobby Fuller’s cover of Buddy Holly’s Love’s Made a Fool of You - a sad topic I guess but a very happy sound.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: I Fought The Law

JQ: I've been contemplating the new Bobby Fuller compilation CD - while listening to Chuck Prophets "Bobby Fuller Died For Your Sins." I also found an original 45 of I Fought The Law a few weeks ago. Today was even better- an original Chan Romero Hippy Hippy Shake from 1959.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Recents

By the Way I Forgive You - Brandi Carlile

Honky Tonk - Sun Volt

Beggars Banquet - RS

Tomorrow Is My Turn - Rhiannon Giddens

Best Of - Bobby Fuller 4


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Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: That's a good question, Canadiana. First and foremost would be the five guys called the Band. As was pointed out in Consuls / Suedes drummer Peter Deremigis's book (which I bought in Victoria two weeks ago), their big song, "The Weight" is Canadian in tone and content. By which he means, I think, that it fits into author Margaret Atwood's thesis, as expressed in her 1970-ish non-fiction book "Survival", that classic Canadian literature tends to be about merely surviving - the winter, the animals, the neighbours … And our hero in "The Weight" goes in to do good, but comes out merely surviving intact.

Bruce Cockburn's "Coldest Night Of The Year" is an excellent call. A couple of BaRK covers that you're familiar with: David Wiffen's "While Line", Fred Eaglesmith's "49 Tons".


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Beatlemania

I was brought up with the claim that Beatlemania was used firstly in Dundee. Newspapers including The Guardian stated this at the time of the gallery buying the pictures. Although the pictures are related to an October 1964 concert, the Beatles also played Dundee in October 1963. I only found this out twenty minutes ago. It was after this concert that Andy Lothian coined the phrase Beatlemania. So maybe Dundee still has a claim. Marmalade and Dennis the Menace were invented in Dundee for goodness sake.

Thanks BEG. I would like to have seen the exhibition. I’ve spent a month of my life in Toronto - lovely city.

Thanks John D. I’m sure it would be difficult. When I was completing my Stones collection, Peter had to sort it out for me because I couldn’t get the British stones number 2 album yet could get early American releases! This confused me.

So BEG, John, Bill, Joe, Norm, Bonk, Mike, Landward et al who are the Canadiana artists? A start must be the Coldest Night of the Year?

Playing Fearless by Family. Brilliant. Have to go out soon. Bah Humbug!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I believe that the term "Beatlemania" is credited to Ottawa journalist Sandy Gardiner, who is quoted on the Canadian cover. He was still at the now-defunct "Ottawa Journal" when I met him in the late '70s. I'd contacted him not because of the Beatles but because he managed a couple of significant Ottawa band from '63-'67, the Esquires (of which Bruce Cockburn is the most famous alumnus) and the Staccatos, who were big in Canada for a long time before breaking out in the US under their new name, the Five Man Electrical Band. As far as I know, Sandy's still above-ground - perhaps on NY, where he moved to do communications work for BA.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I wondered about the gallery's claim on the word Beatlemania. I just looked on Discogs and the Canadian LP "Beatlemania" was released on 2nd December 1963.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Dunc...Re John Cale...No recordings. Re Beatles...I saw this exhibit a few years ago. I sent PV a few photos.

Video: Beatles exhibit a snapshot of life in Toronto in the ’60s A new Beatles exhibit at Toronto’s Market Gallery explores how Beatlemania influenced the city’s emerging artists. “When the Beatles Rocked Toronto” marks the 50th anniversary of the Fab Four’s final Maple Leaf Gardens show


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Posted by:

John D

Location: Canada

Subject: Beatlemania

Dunc. I believe the album released in the U.K. "With The Beatles" became known as "Meet The Beatles" in the U.S. and here in Canada it was called "BEATLEMANIA." It becomes exhausting trying to remember which tracks were released on what albums, once they got across the pond.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Beatlemania

I saw Family only once on the 14th January 1972 at 8pm in the Caird Hall, Dundee.

In 1964 the term ‘Beatlemania’ was used for the first time to describe the fans’ reaction at a Beatles’ concert. I went into the McManus Gallery, Dundee a couple of weeks ago to see a small exhibition of Beatles’ pictures taken by a local photographer, recently purchased by the gallery at an auction. If you google Beatles pictures McManus Gallery, you’ll be able to see some of them. If I remember correctly, both Peter and Roger saw the Beatles on this tour in Bournemouth. ( Hi Guys).


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Posted by:

Peter V

If you saw Family live, which I had done several times before John joined them, you'll know that Roger Chapman had some of the most powerful live charisma around. It was incredible that they didn't become a mega band in the USA, which was down to Bill Graham's ego and power in the business though he was afraid of potential legal action over that mic swinging over the heads of the audience, not that he ever hit anyone (as far as I know) but it looked dangerous. On the night he made Iggy Pop look like The Carpenters. Music in A Doll's House is an LP everyone should have.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Holding The Compass

The German TV Holding The Compass hadn't come up on mine, but I found it. The original version was before John joined. I linked the German TV one with John on double neck guitar - interestingly he's doing it all on the six string, playing the bass part as well as guitar. I'd never seen that clip before. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Great posts

Thanks Peter and Pat. Great posts.

Bandstand is a great album. It’s been with me all my life. It may have been a heavy contraption., but I thought John’s combined instrument was really cool back in the day. I wouldn’t have known his name back in the day really only knowing Chapman’s name. Next to Peter’s links is ‘Holding The Compass’ on German television. I think it is really great, and I never thought about it before until Peter mentioned it some time in the past, but I think it illustrates the link between folk and prog rock. Prog rock is a horrible categorisation and it did get out of control.

Thanks, Pat. By that time maybe Kevin was suffering from his demons.


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Posted by:

John D

Glad to see that the site is back up again. It was down here in the early afternoon.


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Posted by:

Pat B

A Kevin Coyne story.

KC: So who do you like?

PB: The Band

KC: Ewww. All that horrid frontiersmen shite. So fucking self-important. Robbie Robertson writes that terrible "people of the soil" crap I just can't stand. Mountain men issuing art from the wooded heights. Ugh, I can't bear it.

PB: Geez, I love them.

KC: Well, I could be wrong.


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Posted by:

Pat B

A Kevin Coyne story.

KC: So who do you like?

PB: The Band

Ewww. All that horrid frontiersmen shite. So fucking self-important. Robbie Robertson writes that terrible "people of the soil" crap I just can't stand. Mountain men issuing art from the wooded heights. Ugh, I can't bear it.

PB: Geez, I love them.

KC: Well, I could be wrong.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Spanish Tide

Bandstand is not only a great album, it has a great sleeve. Yes, John Wetton had been lead vocalist in three bands, and wanted to write and sing lead, which was limited in Family, though having a second vocalist in John really added a lot. In Family he used the heavy twin neck guitar / bass guitar which he blamed for later shoulder problems. More, John wanted to join King Crimson. He saw them rehearse way back in 1969, described it in a letter to me and was totally knocked out. They later made overtures to John a couple of times but he was tied up. They were his dream band at the time, and he’d known Robert Fripp for years. In King Crimson, he was the only vocalist and got a chance to write. At that time he was in high demand for session work too. A contributing factor is that Bill Graham had made it crystal clear during the Family US tour that they were f*cked, because they had not followed his ban on swinging the microphone. So John also knew that their opportunities had suddenly become restricted. He remained friends with them. He played bass uncredited on one track on the subsequent album It’s Only A Movie – he’d been hanging out watching them record and they just asked. He wasn’t sure which track it was, saw a copy in my house and we sat and listened and he finally said, ‘Right. That one’s me.’

LINK: Family on the Whistle Test. Spanish Tide. Just listen to that bass playing from John.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Last Five Played

'Marjory Razorblade' - Kevin Coyne. I think this is a great album, but perhaps it would be have been even greater if it had not been a double album. I think this explains why it was not the Virgin success it should have been like Tubular Bells. Because of this mistake at the beginning of his career, it hindered Kevin Coyne in becoming the success he should have been...that and personal demons. Interesting Pat B, I didn't know of that album. I saw Kevin twice - once with a band and once on his own in the twilight of his career - two great evenings.

'Bandstand' - Family. I love this album - thoughtful and innovative. I love Family. Peter's late, great friend, John Wetton plays on this album. I only saw them play once and it was this line up I saw. I was researching and John seemed to leave because Chapman/Whitney were the writers and Chapman was the singer. A talented guy such as John Wetton needed to do more than just be the bass player. Peter, is that it? I didn't know this until two days ago. My favourite track on the album is Coronation which has writing credits as Chapman/Witney/Wetton. It's a brilliant track on a great album.

'The Ballad of Peckham Rye - Blue Rose Code. I saw this guy hosting a concert of musicians celebrating some great Scottish songs. I really went to the concert because of Hamish Stuart. But I thought Ross(Blue Rose Code) was great. I bought this album and it's brilliant. A strange coincidence - I found out that Ross had moved to Bournemouth and John Wetton had mentored him and they became friends. I emailed Peter's 'Celebration of John's Life' to his manager, who said he would be interested.

'Northern Lights -Southern Cross' -The Band. I love this album and don't need to say more. But one thing ... only a genius such as Garth would have put bagpipes (using a chanter) on 'Acadian Driftwood'. Brilliant.

'Over The Years' - Graham Nash - This is a great collection of his songs. Marrakesh Express is my favourite Graham Nash song. It was the song I played on the juke box at Uni. As I posted when I saw him recently, his voice was still young, clear and beautiful. You could hear every word. His communication between songs was great, for example telling us about Joni Mitchell and saying how Stephen Stills was underrated as a lead guitarist.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Five - 5 - -V11

Just listening (and watching) a youtube. 2017 at Hyde Park. Paul Simon sings "The Boxer" with Jerry Douglas beside him on his dobro. Probably the best I've ever heard this song.

Classic Rock Show plays Meatloaf's "Bat out of Hell" just superb.

Milk N Blues - "The Thrill is Gone

Nancy Griffith - "The Speed of the Sound of Loneliness"

James Taylor & Mavis Staples at the Kennedy Centre honor for Paul McCartney they sing "Let it Be"


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Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Rumer

Will have to think about Jimmy Webb and politics. Rumer’s take on P.F.Sloan is my favourite. I was listening to her a lot two or three years ago, and she turns up on various compilation tributes. She’s a great interpreter. A couple of years ago, I wanted to see her in concert and it was sold out, so I guess pretty popular. Well worth exploring her albums.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Rumer

PV - I don’t know her well at all, is she a big deal over there? I like her take on Jimmy Webb’s P.F. Sloan a lot too. I’m thinking that’s the only song he’s penned that contains any social and political commentary, you?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Haso - and on a compilation I've been listening to Rumer's cover of "A Man Needs A Maid" this morning (along with her versions of I Wanna Roo You and P.F. Sloan)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Last Five

Duane Eddy: Duane A Go Go (LP)

Chris McGregor's Brotherhood of Breath CD

The Bootleg Series Vol 12, CD 13 (4th Time / Visions of J / Most Likely)

State of The Union: The American Dream in Crisis 1967-71, a Bob Stanley & Pete Wiggs compilation on Ace. CD

Hey Baby! Nino Tempo & April Stevens LP (on Atlantic, 1966)

Two recent LP finds in there.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Visions of Johanna

Back to the debate on Daryl Sanders book, stating that Robbie was not there and that Jerry Kennedy played the guitar fills. If you have the Bootleg Series 12, listen to Visions of Johanna Take 4 at around 2 minutes (allegedly the final cut) then to the released version. The released lead guitar is louder with a more thrilling tone (which can be electronic treatment), but is it exactly the same guitar part? I wondered whether everybody was right - Jerry Kennedy played the fills first, then they overdubbed Robbie and improved them?


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Bill M

He don't love you and he'll break your heart.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Norbert: Another hundred-dollar Greek word that some would apply to the Band is 'sisohpromatem', when a butterfly turns into a caterpillar.


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: 5 & Dustbowl

Catching up from a couple of weeks back; sorry Peter, Dunc and those much more versed than me, I got nuthin' on the Anglicana/Americana discussion. Charlie Y mentions seeing a tandem concert down in "Old Virginny". Glad to hear you saw Dustbowl & Cowtown. Yeah, I was pretty curious about those Garth licks they played and had to ask the lead singer. I had thought somehow they were pre-recorded, the way they mounted a speaker on a chair in front of a microphone, but Liz explained that Conner, the fiddle player was doing that through his petal. Sort of a wah-wah petal, perhaps. Isn't that how Garth got the original funk clavinet on Cripple Creek? She also gave the rundown on Dustbowl's Band playlist; good to have Hot Club of Cowtown's list as well. I'll seek out that EP, interested to hear their versions of Across the Great Divide, Evangeline and When You Awake.

Last 5:

Allman Bros - original Fillmore East cd, disc 1 taking us up through W. Cobb's You Don't Love Me. "Play all night". I always wondered if anyone ever claimed to be that voice... kind of the opposite of the guy who has said he was "Judas" from Manchester Free Trade Hall.

Paul Butterfield Band - Resurrection of Pigboy Crabshaw

Neil Young - Harvest. Man needs a Maid?!, not atypical I suppose for Neil to throw in serious curveballs.

The Seldom Scene - Recorded live at the Cellar Door

Larkin Poe - Peach


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

A quiz: Which early song by our guys does this one sound like? (Hint: The same, but with vocal, and properly credited, serves as the record's A-side.)


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Norbert, personally I always though that solo was a bit over the top. Would have been good in a Hendrix tribute but not so much in one for George. According to what I read, Prince would have one of his people waiting in the front row ready to catch the guitar. On this occasion it was reportedly given to Oprah Winfrey but I don't know if it is true. I cannot say I was a big Prince fan. I always thought his ego was excessive even by rock star standards.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Ephemera

Ephemera is a beautiful word, it derives from the Greek ephemeros, meaning "lasting only one day" I learn.
Maybe The Band itself was some kind of ephemeros, a miracle like a butterfly, lasting just for one day.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: The Story Behind Prince’s “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” Solo

I like to watch Prince’ exceptional guitar solo, afterwards he throws his guitar into the air, this is the story (from GuitarPlayer online).

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“Everybody wonders where that guitar went, and I gotta tell you, I was on the stage, and I wonder where it went, too.”
In the week after Prince’s death on April 21, 2016, a video of him playing the guitar solo on an all-star version of the Beatles’ “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” with Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne and others was shared repeatedly on social media. The video comes from the 2004 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremonies, where the song’s writer, George Harrison, was inducted, along with Prince, ZZ Top, Bob Seger, Jackson Browne, Traffic and Fifties doo-wop group the Dells.

We first shared the video in August 2015 and revisited it again in December of that year. In fact, it proved so popular with our readers that we shared it once more in March 2016, as well as after Prince’s death. His solo generates pure excitement, but the crowning touch comes at the end of the song, when Prince takes off his guitar—a Tele-style H.S. Anderson Mad Cat—and throws it up in the air…and it appears never to come down.

In the days after Prince died, the New York Times ran an article about the performance in which Petty and others who performed with Prince that night shared their memories. According to the paper, the show’s producer, Joel Gallen, asked Prince to play the song’s solos, since he was there to be inducted anyway. But during rehearsals, Marc Mann, who plays guitar with Lynne, took over, knocking out a note-perfect recreation of Eric Clapton’s original mid-song solo.

“And we get to the big end solo,” Gallen says, “and Prince again steps forward to go into the solo, and this guy starts playing that solo too!”

There wasn’t time to get it right, but Prince assured Gallen everything would be fine at the performance. He told the producer to let Mann take the first solo, and he would perform the extended outro solo. “They never rehearsed it, really,” Gallen says. “Never really showed us what he was going to do, and he left, basically telling me, the producer of the show, not to worry.

“And the rest is history. It became one of the most satisfying musical moments in my history of watching and producing live music.”

Though Prince is onstage the entire time, he stands off to the side until the end, when he takes center stage. From that point on, the show is entirely his. His slick stage move at 4:43 and his guitar face at 5:05 are as enjoyable as anything he plays...and he plays up a storm. The smile on the face of Dhani Harrison—George Harrison’s son, who plays acoustic guitar on the number—shows how much he was enjoying Prince’s star-turn on his father’s song.

“You see me nodding at him, to say, ‘Go on, go on,’” Petty said. “I remember I leaned out at him at one point and gave him a ‘This is going great!’ kind of look.n “He just burned it up. You could feel the electricity of ‘something really big’s going down here.’”

But what about that disappearing guitar? Once it leaves Prince’s hands, it never reappears, and the video shows no one catching it. Even Petty’s drummer, Steve Ferrone, remains confused about it—and he was onstage.

“I didn’t even see who caught it,” he says. “I just saw it go up, and I was astonished that it didn’t come back down again.

“Everybody wonders where that guitar went, and I gotta tell you, I was on the stage, and I wonder where it went, too.”


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

I felt like listening to Baaba Maal's "Call To Prayer" so went to YouTube, which led me to the wonderful linked performance by Baaba Maal with Mumford and Sons in South Africa. Rousing, it is.


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Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: 5 for Free

Little Bit of Love

My Brother Jake

Wishing Well

Travellin In Style

Remember


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Posted by:

Jed

I hope no-one took me the wrong way-I wasn't complaining about '74-I loved it.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: '74/Planet Waves?

I've listened to a few of these shows over the years and am listening to whats posted here-high energy is putting it mildly.Dylan and the boys pretty much blew up the buildings on that tour. What interested me was the '74 tour-loud and wild-juxtaposed with the controlled, tight,soft,beautiful Planet Waves.Two very different sounds, moods,whatever.Both bookends to the last chapter of Dylan & The Band.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 1974

There are CD bootlegs of Boston (Jan 14th), Capitol Center (Jan 15), Madison Square Gardens (Jan 31st)


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Enjoy the whole thing but dig if you will the crowd reaction at around 3:06:00 on out. That's 3 hours, 6 minutes. Tribal.


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Web: My link

Subject: 1974 recordings

Details of the 1974 recordings at the LosslessBob site.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, but that is the whole point. As one of your very fine English cricketers recently pointed out, using a term for a gay person as a generic term of abuse is just not appropriate.

Pat, of course you are right about the 74 tour, I guess I just tend to play the California and New York shows more than the others.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

According to most sources, Boston SB is definitely available. The link shows how many different shows are available with audience tapes. Everyone needs to hear LARS from Uniondale NY when the crowd goes nuts.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Wallsend, off the top of my head, Boston, Seattle, and possibly Dallas had board boots.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

With regard to the 74 tour, I think the only decent quality recordings are the ones from California and New York. I have only ever heard an audience recording of the Chicago show. There is a boot which has one take of every song that was played on the tour but the quality of the recordings varies a lot. There is another boot called In the Footsteps of Planet Waves which has a few interesting things on it.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Norbert / Peter V: You'll have to confirm this with Jan H, but I suspect that the Norwegians called in the Swedish Disease.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I love "Breakin' The Rules" as it is, but I wish that as probably intended before the fire, Rick Danko had helped out on it AND done his own version later. As with It Makes No Difference, it would have been perfect for his voice.


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Posted by:

Peter V

In England it was called the French Disease, on which Shakespeare has a line on it in "Henry V." Just after the army defeat France, we discover that Mistress Quickly has died of "The French Malady."


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Posted by:

Norbert

We’re having a holliday week in Germany and I’m reading this book by Hans Rosling: "Factfulness : Ten reasons we're wrong about the world--and why things are better than you think"
Before we go to dinner at the local restaurant 3 littles (Bandish) stories from this book:

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During the week, I lived with my grandparents. On Saturdays my daddy put me on the rack of his bike and we drove in large circles and figures of eight just for fun on our way to the hospital. I would see Mommy standing on the balcony on the third floor coughing. Daddy would explain that if we went in we could get sick too. I would wave to her and she would wave back. I saw her talking to me, but her voice was too weak and her words were carried away by the wind. I remember that she always tried to smile.

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Blood All Over the Floor:
On October 7, 1975, I was plastering a patient’s arm when an assistant nurse burst through the door and announced that a plane had crashed and the wounded were coming in by helicopter. It was my fifth day as a junior doctor on the emergency ward in the small coastal town of Hudiksvall in Sweden. All the senior staff were down in the dining hall and as the assistant nurse and I searched frantically for the folder of disaster instructions, I could already hear the helicopter landing. The two of us were going to have to handle this on our own.

Seconds later a stretcher was rolled in, bearing a man in dark green overalls and a camouflage life jacket. His arms and legs were twitching. An epileptic seizure, I thought; off with his clothes. I removed his lifejacket easily but his overalls were more problematic. They looked like a spacesuit, with huge sturdy zippers all over, and no matter how hard I tried I couldn’t find the zipper that undid them. I had just registered that the uniform meant this was a military pilot when I noticed the blood all over the floor. “He’s bleeding,” I shouted. With this much blood, I knew he could be dead in a matter of seconds, but with the overalls still on, I couldn’t see where it was coming from. I grabbed a big pair of plaster pliers to cut through the fabric and howled to the assistant nurse, “Four bags of blood, O-negative. Now!”

To the patient, I shouted, “Where does it hurt?” “Yazhe shisha ... na adjezhizha zha ...” he replied. I couldn’t understand a word, but it sounded like Russian. I looked the man in his eyes and said with a clear voice, “Bee thxo TOBapnnj, mBe^cicaya dojiBHnpa,” which means “All is calm, comrade, Swedish hospital.”

I will never forget the look of panic I triggered with those words. Frightened out of his mind, he stared back at me and tried to tell me something: “Vavdvfor papratarjenji rysskamememje ej ...” I looked into his eyes full of fear, and then I realized: this must be a Russian fighter pilot who has been shot down over Swedish territory. Which means that the Soviet Union is attacking us. World War III has started! I was paralyzed by fear.

Fortunately, at that moment the head nurse, Birgitta, came back from lunch. She snatched the plaster pliers from my hand and hissed, “Don’t shred it. That’s an air force ‘G suit’ and it costs more than 10,000 Swedish kronor.” After a beat she added, “And can you please step off the life jacket. You’re standing on the color cartridge and it is making the whole floor red.”

Birgitta turned to the patient, calmly freed him from his G suit, and wrapped him in a couple of blankets. In the meantime she told him in Swedish, “You were in the icy water for 23 minutes, which is why you are jerking and shivering, and why we can’t understand what you’re saying.” The Swedish air force pilot, who had evidently crashed during a routine flight, gave me a comforting little smile.

A few years ago I contacted the pilot, and was relieved to hear that he doesn’t remember a thing from those first minutes in the emergency room in 1975. But for me the experience is hard to forget. I will forever remember my complete misjudgment. Everything was the other way around: the Russian was Swedish, the war was peace, the epileptic seizure was cooling, and the blood was a color ampule from inside the life jacket. Yet it had all seemed so convincing to me.

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The Foreign Disease:
The body’s largest organ is the skin. Before modern medicine, one of the worst imaginable skin diseases was syphilis, which would start as itchy boils and then eat its way into the bones until it exposed the skeleton. The microbe that caused this disgusting sight and unbearable pain had different names in different places. In Russia it was called the Polish disease. In Poland it was the German disease; in Germany, the French disease; and in France, the Italian disease. The Italians blamed back, calling it the French disease.

The instinct to find a scapegoat is so core to human nature that it’s hard to imagine the Swedish people calling the open sores the Swedish disease, or the Russians calling it the Russian disease. That’s not how people work. We need someone to blame and if a single foreigner came here with the disease, then we would happily blame a whole country. No further investigation needed.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend: Thanks - yes, it was "Are You Being Served".

Peter V: I like the point about the best ones not being based on jokes or quips. I also agree with someone's point yesterday that the best don't have (or need) laugh tracks. And yes, "Frasier" is the best of the lot from recent decades. A valuable Cleese insight was that he and Connie Booth, in writing "Fawlty Towers", always made sure to hide the plot points were hidden in funny bits, meaning less was obvious and more was funny as a result.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Breakin' The Rules...Robbie Robertson

I tried to reach you
On Valentine's Day
But how can I reach you
When you're so far away
Don't make me a victim
Don't make me the clown
With my arms reaching out
And my head hanging down

I bring you this cross
I carved out of wood
I'm just trying to tell you
That I'd change if I could

Peter V and K... :-D


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Posted by:

Peter V

Valentine's Day - a sore point, not having been near a shop for two weeks, I couldn't reciprocate Mrs V's card. Still, I saw the surgeon today and I stamped my foot and marched on the spot, ad he passed me OK to drive! The end of cabin fever.

Last five:

Hostiles, OST – Max Richter

Little Honey- Lucinda Williams. Amazing amazon reseller delivery - same day as I ordered it, hand delivery. No stamp, just through the door in an envelope. The seller must be in Poole too.

Candy Philosophy – Michael Marra

1968 – Ace compilation by Jon Savage

Those Who Are About To Die Salute You- Colosseum – Pulled out of the rack after decades. Jim Litherland is a bit of a surprise interruption to the mainly instrumental tracks when he starts singing, but it sounds a lot like early days of Jim Litherland’s Brotherhood which became Mogul Thrash. Jon Hiseman is horrendously busy- technically clever, but far too much going on. Tony Reeves does one hell of a long bass solo. I saw them at least twice (and Mogul Thrash several times).


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Happy Valentine's Day!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: It was the 3rd of January 1974

I tend not to investigate streaming, but the show from the BTF tour that’s desirable is the first one in Chicago. There’s a different set list, I believe Dylan stayed on for The Band songs on second guitar, and you get Share Your Love, Holy Cow, Hero Blues, Song for Woody. I had it on cassette. Not great quality sound, but high on interest value. Is that one around online in a decent version?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Are You Being Served was also directed by Bob Spiers. He told me he had just won an award for his Fawlty Towers episodes, went into the BBC to ask what his next assignment was and was told “Another series of Are You Being Served?’. He quit and went freelance. He said he couldn’t take those lift doors opening 5 minutes into every episode to reveal either Mt Humprhries or Mrs Slocombe in a funny costume. But it has its moments, the cast are good and twenty years on, they revisited the characters in “Grace & favour”. The store had closed, and there was no retirement fund left (it had been embezzled), so the staff received the owner’s country house instead and ran it jointly as a hotel. I thought it pretty good.

I think homophobia and misogyny are post-event PC constructions in a differentworld. Take the Sergeant Major calling the performers “a load of poofs.” That was what a Sergeant Major would say, and as a long-haired roadie for a band, being called “a load of poofs” was a frequent daily occurrence circa early 1970s and we thought nothing of it.

As Jimmy Perry has said in interviews, Perry & Croft wrote situations for funny characters. They never consciously wrote jokes or quips. That was what differentiated much British and American comedy. I would place the two most successful, “Frasier” and “Friends” as like the British in their comic approach.

“Norsemen” on Netflix – a Norwegian production, filmed simultaneously in Norwegian and English is good. They are savage Vikings in 790 AD doing savage Viking things while speaking in rationale “social worker” speak. Love it.


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Posted by:

Rod

I watched a bit of Minder recently when I was off colour. Some of the attitudes in that were a bit dodgy but still a great series. I like the rough approach of BTF. Instrumentally The Band are on fire on Dylan's songs. Old crow medicine shows tribute to blonde on blonde is played in much the same manner.....especially ketch secors vocals


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Bill M, I think you are thinking of 'Are you Being Served'. When you see some of those old shows it is amazing how racist, misogynistic and homophobic they are. Also, completely unfunny. On a brighter note, I am a great fan of the 74 tour. A lot of people are critical of Bob's 'shouting' voice but I thought it was great. Needless to say, our guys were also great. The boots really give you a different perspective on the performances.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: British Drama

Just finished binge watching "Line of Duty" on Netflix. It was bloody brilliant. The main reason is that I find the Brits really know how to write great dramas. Great cop shows. More so than over here. Twists and turns with plenty of intrigue. Anyway I hear that season 5 is coming soon. The endings for season 3 and 4 had us on the end of our seats. The two latter seasons were shot in Belfast.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: It was the sub-20 me that was an "On The Buses" fan. I saw it maybe 20 years later and found it hideous. Almost embarrassingly so. Another hideous Britcom that I'd sometimes catch the last 30 seconds of because it was on immediately before something that was totally worthwhile, took place in a department store. I've blotted the title from my memory banks. Could it have been "Many Happy Returns", come to think of it?\ I can't think of any comedies I bother watching anymore, but I can't always avoid being in the room when one of two comedies is being watched by the other person in the household. One is what I call "The Old Idiots", a British thing with an Asian character named Entwistle and with Blakey from "On The Buses". Not good, but easier on the brain than the US one with Sheldon and friends.

Where is today's "Mary Tyler Moore Show" or "Bob Newhart Show" or "WKRP" or even "Barney Miller"?

Who's old enough to remember Chad and Jeremy doing a tour of the major US sitcoms during the time of the British Invasion?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Jon & Jed, they recorded a lot of the shows with a multitrack and probably ran a two-track with a rough mix as a reference. Rather than rent a studio and spool up a bunch of multitracks and mix them, they could consult the 2 tracks to choose which performances they wanted to use for BTF. As a result, there are a lot of great boots from that tour along with a bunch of audience recordings. I believe the Cali shows were all on Wolfgang's Vault at one point, including all the LA shows.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The New Movie!

"TRUMPED" Staring Don Knots! as Donald Trump.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Jed, my pleasure. I'm loving it too. One thing I'm noticing is that Richard's piano and Garth's organ seem to be way up in the mix... IMO it sounds very different than the Before The Flood mix, giving some of the 'heavier' songs a much more playful feel.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Jon Lyness

Thanks for the heads up-a kick ass show if I ever did hear one.


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Posted by:

Peter V

A thought, without checking out the chart books. I’d guess that the UK had many more novelty or oddity records get to #1 in the main chart … I mentioned Whispering Grass yesterday, Ernie today, but there were more. Clive Dunn from “Dad’s Army” got a #1 with Grandad in 1970. Scaffold were #1 with Lily The Pink in 1968. Rolf Harris with Two Little Boys in 1969. England World Cup Squad with Back Home in 1970. Billy Connolly with DIVORCE in 1975. The Wurzels with Combine Harvester in 1976.

Also, we had way more Christmas-themed number one records in the season. It may be because we focussed more on just the one chart rather than genre charts.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

On The Buses is stretching it a bit far, Bill. That is LCD comedy. Anything by Perry & Croft was above that.

Benny Hill is a sad story. His shows were the biggest earner internationally for Thames TV. I never liked his shows much, but they had a huge international appeal. There was a building whispering campaign against him for years from those minor functionaries at the TV station earning their pay checks from off what sales of his material earned the TV company. The PC knife was eventually put in whatever, and he was left perplexed by it all. He was weird, but I will leap to his defence because his school in Southampton was evacuated to Bournemouth in WW2, and shared premises with the school I (and Roger W) later attended. Thus he is counted as an old boy of the school.

Link is to Benny Hill's number one UK record, Ernie (The Fastest Milkman In The West). You should watch it … and it's a catchy ditty.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: God humor

There’s a new series here called Miracle Workers where Steve Buscemi plays god. I’m thinking this god dude we fall down on our knees for could be the next target of great humor - the subject matter is endlessly supplied for that. Monty Python took a successful swing at it. And then the Irish theocracy banned it - in the 70’s! He (capital H) deserves to be taken down more than a peg or two. I’d bet He has a supreme sense of self deprecating humor. We’ll see.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: US humor

I think humor here keeps evolving and once we’ve moved from one style era to something new we do that until it’s exhausted. It’s generational too in that it becomes more difficult to evolve as we age out. The show Laugh In changed American humor and, watching it today, it’s just done for. In the later 70’s Saturday Night Live changed everything again, in movies too, but now John Beluchi, Chevy Chase, etc are like Red Skelton, just done for. It seems like the English stuff has a longer lifespan but it can age out eventually too. We appreciate the old stuff, in its original context, but that’s more for humor acedemics. WC Fields, Laurel & Hardy remain appreciated that way, Charlie Chaplin not so much. Not to be arrogant, but I think one can gauge a person’s intelligence by what they find funny. I think the Hollywood marketeers understand this and attempt to put out different styles for every demo they think is large enough. Once you hear a laugh track you know it ain’t going to be very funny.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What's Funny?? "The Deal Maker"

This morning just now as Susan and I ate breakfast, she had on CNN. So here is the haggling of Trump the great deal maker Losing more and more of the cash for his WALL.

So I said to Susan, remember in the "Life of Brian" where they are trying to buy the fake beards? No-no that's not the way you do it! You got to haggle. You guys got to remember that. Well Susan started laughing so hard I thought she'd wet her jammies. It is what that childish idiot is like tho'. and he does it seriously without even trying..........it's gut busting and pathetic at the same time.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Love Fawlty Towers, love Keeping Up Appearances, love At Time Goes By, loved On The Buses and Bless This House way back when (but haven't seen in decades) … Hated Benny Hill, hated what I just saw of the Mom one. So I like to think it's not an English thing.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'll agree with Wallsend here. There are differences in humour, and what goes - the divide is so beautifully illustrated with the British writers in Hollywood in the TV series "Episodes." If you like Dad's Army (totally lost in the unsuccessful American adaptation, as was Fawlty Towers and The Office) you'll like It Ain't Half Hot Mum.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Funny??

Hell..........with Canadians everything is funny!


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Humour, like music, is an important part of ethnic identity. There seems to be quite a gap between what Brits, Aussies and Kiwis find funny and what Americans do. Not sure where Canadians fit into this.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Before the Flood

Woof, you're right about that Pat. Definitely getting older here!


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Posted by:

Bill M

That was the best of that Mom show you've been talking about? Holy shit - that's unwatchable! And nothing to do with PC.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Jon, wasn't RDW on BTF?


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Nicholas Roeg

I just became aware that he died late last year. There’s several films with rock stars in his catalog plus Don’t Look Now from ‘73. I was watching In Bruges for the millionth time (remains brilliant!) and there was a line there about that film and I’ve read it had a big impact on M McDonagh.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Dylan & The Band Feb 1974

Listening to the amazing 2/11/74 show by Dylan & the Band on the Paste Magazine site. I was completely unaware that Rainy Day Women was played on the '74 tour... it's a wild version. Go to expectingrain dot com and the show is the 17th link.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Another clip

This is another two and a half minute clip - with the Indian character. You can see why it's non PC … but … it includes British army duties like painting stones white.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: It Ain't Half Hot Mum

In case you're wondering what it was all about, here is a 2 minute 30 second compilation of clips from the programme on YouTube, in tribute to Windsor Davies who played the Sergeant Major. You may see why it fell foul of the PC lobby … but he is brilliant.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Really enjoyed Hi De Hi and It Aint Half Hot Mum.

Bassmanlee, I responded to your post, but was getting Johnny Cash. Trying again. Before I read your post, I watched Ken Loach's My Name -- Joe. Is is the missing word. It's a brilliant, but harrowing film. Tremendous acting, realistic accents and it did well throughout the UK so my friends in the South must have understood the accents. Was it successful in the USA and Canada? Difficult to understand the accents? It's on Amazon Prime. I don't know anything about Interview.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: It Ain't Half Hot Mum

I guess you're right on the PC issue.

It Ain’t Half Hot Mum was a major British sitcom by Perry & Croft, and the link between DAD’S ARMY and HI-DE-HI. All three based on experience … Home Guard, Army Entertainment team in India in 1945 and working in a Holiday Camp. Perry & Croft’s DAD’S ARMY is still shown every week on the main BBC channels at Prime Time. Bob Spiers directed one of my video series. He also directed some Dad’s Army and Fawlty Towers. We spent hours discussing comedy into the early hours, and he assured me Dad’s Army was the best sitcom of all time.

Sadly, It Ain’t Half Hot Mum fell victim to PC here. When it was still broadcast, I discussed it with two Indian actors who were recording audio with me. They said the PC issue was having a white guy, Michael Bates, playing the Indian bearer in make-up. The bearer narrates, and is so proud to be “British” and makes disparaging comments about “Indians”. The Indian actors thought it very funny, very true and would have had no problem doing the roles themselves, but objected to a white guy in make up doing it. The other issue was that it’s an entertainments troupe with a guy who sings in drag (Melvyn Hays) and a pianist with an Oxford degree. Both are called “poofs” by the macho Sergeant Major who wants to get them out of the entertainments troupe and into the jungle with guns. I’ve met Windsor Davies (RIP) who brilliantly played the Sergeant Major.

In the sitcom, Don Estelle is “Lofty” a very short guy with an operatic voice. He duetted with Windsor Davies singing “Whispering Grass” from the show in 1975, and they had a UK #1 hit record. The follow up, Paper Doll, got to #45.

It Ain’t Half Hot Mum never gets repeats now. Still, I have the Complete Box Set.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, I know that show was shown in New Zealand. People in Canada may not have though it was pc even back then. I heard it is no longer being shown in some places because of the racial issue. I can understand that but I always thought it was taking the piss out of English culture more than Indian.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks on "It Ain't Half Hot Mum" - it would have been nice to have a Canadian character use the catch phrase in a situation (Oh, dear. How sad. Never mind …) but I've rewritten the section to lose it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Car CD players

Link to my latest rant "Whatever happened to car CD players?" Comments enabled and welcome on my blog.


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Posted by:

GregD

Subject: Not Half Hot

Peter V- just saw your message now after being away from the guestbook for a few days. As someone else who was 25 in 1987, and with a father who was an avid watcher of all t.v. shows British, I can't say I've heard of the show you mentioned either.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: So much music …

There is so much to discover. I had never even remotely heard of Interview, perhaps because their heyday 1978-81 was right when I was busiest at work, and with writing and touring AND we had young kids. A lot of music around then escaped me - I kind of resurfaced in 1982.


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Posted by:

Pat B

b.lee, I believe Interview was from Bath. The Conqueror was from their second album which was much more of a keyboard record than their first. Shipyards from their first made me think they spent some time in Cardiff.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Mark knopfler

As far as being Anglicana, then does it not stand to reason that "Done with Bonaparte" should be very much that?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Under The Jasmin Tree

I'm going through my more ambient LPs in my daily hour with feet elevated. Today was an oddity- Modern Jazz Quartet "Under The Jasmin Tree" which was the fourth non-Beatle Apple LP. Apparently someone thought they'd add a bit of class to Apple, but then no one ever bothered to promote their Apple releases. I wondered which Beatle decided to sign them.

It's very typical MJQ - pleasant noodling about really, a bit too conservative in recording the bass and drums too. The piano was the same as that used on Hey Jude. I bought it because (a) it was on Apple which made me curious and (b) it has a cover picture by Alan Aldridge, who was designing all the great Penguin book covers at that time.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sultans of Swing has a feel- London pub. Also Queen and XTC. Who gets the 20th place? Or should I go to 30? Then there's the Old Cricketer.

The Bowie programme last night (Before Fame) confirmed the Anthony Newley interest, as well as playing lots of Anglicana snippets from the Deram and Philips albums, including my choice Rubber Band.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Izzy Young

JOHN D posted: "Can't find anywhere why he (Izzy) moved to Stockholm of all places." Yes, you can find it HERE on gb! - There was a woman behind this.

Izzy's Folklore Centrum was situated in the former working man's neighborhood in Stockholm- - which became the bohemian neighborhood - - which became the politically correct hipster neighborhood for rich IT and media people. I wonder how Izzy felt about that.


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Anglicana

I'm enjoying listening to the Anglicana playlist as it grows. I’d nominate for inclusion Roy Harper’s ‘When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease’. John Arlott’s phrase. The song is on the album Headquarters – a reference to Lords cricket ground.

I’d also nominate something by Mark Knopfler. Dire Straits’ Sultans of Swing must fit the bill mustn’t it? But I’d choose ‘One More Matinee’ from Sailing to Philadelphia. Actually there’s loads of Mark Knopfler stuff – 5.15 am and The Trawlerman’s Song from Shangri-la might fit.

There was a great SkyArts documentary about the Kinks this week. It's a couple of years old so I'm probably just catching up. Waterloo Sunset has to be in the top ten all time great pop songs - or chart songs. Not sure it's better than God Only Knows or Air (Incredible String Band) but it's on a par.


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Posted by:

Norm the Westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Gettin' Back to Cryin' JQ

Stting back in my old oak chair at my desk listening to John Prine, (a more resent video on youtube) after he mentions Steve Goodman, he sings "Souveniers"

I hate grave yards and old pawn shops for they always bring me tears.

It took me years to get these souveniers...........


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Posted by:

joe j

Thanks to you all. Keep the suggestions coming.

Last 5:

Bobbie Gentry "Okolona River Bottom Band"

Bobbie "Mississippii Delta"

Loretta Lynn "Coal Miner's Daughter"

The Move "Last Thing On My Mind"

Rod Stewart "Gasoline Alley"


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Thar she blows!

JQ........No snow at all. Sunny weather but record Northerly wind. 65 knots last night. It blew steadier than I have ever seen a north wind here. Just really cold.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: UK accents

Hi Bassman - We just burned through all 8 seasons of George Gently and now I feel I can pick out a Geordie accent. Though I’d never (nowt?) attempt to do one myself.


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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Adding to the list

Dunc (I think it was), apologies from this lunkheaded 'Merican who can't tell British from English, though we know Scotland, Wales and Ireland bring their own to the table. But don't expect us to pick out accents. Unless it's very pronounced, y'all sound the same to our ears. At this point I mis-hear or flat out miss much of what people say no matter where they are from. Some is hearing damage, some seems to accompany the current condition(s). I need subtitles for American TV, let alone foreign. I'm hopeless in a crowded room. Just smile and nod.

I would nominate 'Harvest Festival' as a quintessential Anglicana entry from XTC. The first time I heard it I wondered "what the hell are these guys on about?". We really have no equivalent over here.

Also Dunc, I have one LP by Interview, who I believe are Scots. True story. I was up very late (or very early depending on which end of the stick) and the normally unadventurous pop station played an album at the end of the night man's shift. (Lazy men, looking for an easier way?) So they played Snakes and Ladders by Interview but I did not catch the group or album's name. Halfway on I threw a tape in the machine and managed to record some of it. Later in the week I grabbed the tape, jumped in the car and headed for the local LP pushers. While searching for the right bit to play for the staff, hoping they could tell me what it was, I MANGLED THE TAPE! Merde! So I smooth out and rewind the tape the best I can and take the poor thing in with me. The counterman is game to try to play a bit of it. It gets about 20 seconds along and mangles again. "Interview" the man says. His colleague nods, reaches over and pulls the record out of the bin. Of course at this point I HAVE to buy it. It's a stunner. I think Conqueror might be my favorite.



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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: West Coast Snow

Hi Westcoaster - Are you guys getting hit hard up there too?

I know for those in Chicago and Toronto this is pissant but I’ve never seen a forecast here like this before. We’ve got 8 inches on the ground now - on day1 - and the forecast is for 10 more straight days of snow. Does it hurt much to freeze to death??


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Link

I forgot the link.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: "Sex Education" on Netflix

Being idle at home, I have a review of Netflix surprisingly major hit comedy - drama TV series, "Sex Education." It's doing well on both sides of the Atlantic.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Between footballs in Scotland

Subject: Anglicana

I've really enjoyed the Anglicana article and the subsequent posts and suggestions. I think that an important factor, and quite difficult at times, is to distinguish between Anglicana and British music.

Also, for those across the pond, if the English celebrate anything then a section of the populations of the other home countries accuse them of triumphalism. (This is because they are the biggest country.) As a well balanced Scot,I think this is unfair. Anglicana might suffer from this.

I'm playing Paris 1919 just now. As time goes on, I appreciate this beautiful album more and more. I think it is Anglicana even though it contains 'Child's Christmas in Wales' and in 'Half Past France' the person wonders when he will get to Dundee. And of course, it was written by a Welshman.

I read articles about Paris 1919, last year. An interesting article compared it to a Graham Greene novella. In addition to the song 'Graham Greene', in the CD's outtakes there is the beautiful song 'Burned Out Affair' a play on Graham Greene's novels 'Burned Out Case' and 'the End of the Affair'.

One commentator describes it as a European album.

It's difficult to work out the meanings in some songs. I always think that this is a good thing. In 'Half Past France' is it a soldier returning to Dundee or a musician at the end of a tour?

Much of he music is English, despite Lowell George playing on it. At the time the decision to use him was considered unusual, but I think John Cale is just using an excellent guitarist.

Hi Beg, great Lou fan, do you play it? For those of you who don't have it, it's a must.

So I think this brilliant album is Anglicana, Peter.

PS Peter. Might have been a Motherwell fan? I think fans are allowed to choose the records played at half time now. Scottish cup in two hours.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Delta Sweete Revisited

Try this link … it's Margo Price with Mercury Rev on Bobbie Gentry's "Sermon."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Actually, on what must be the 5th or 6th listening, Lucinda Williams "Ode to Billy Joe" is growing on me, probably because of the wonderful bass line - it was a shock at first because it's dramatic where Bobbie Gentry was so understated.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Move certainly have an English ‘attack’. Will listen more- but then it reminds me to consider ELO and Wizard.

My five are affected by advice to spend one hour a day feet elevated, resting. Hence Max Richter and Garth.

The Delta Sweete Revisited by Mercury Rev. Tribute to Bobbie Gentry’s classic with various female singers, including Norah Jones and Lucinda Williams. Fabulous - though I Don;t think Lucinda nails Ode to Billy Joe, which was not on the original album. The rest is great.

Four Seasons Reimagined - Max Richter. I saw it live a year ago.

The Blue Notebooks - Max Richter

The Sea To The North - Garth Hudson

Curried Jazz - an odd but sought after 1968 LP on a budget label. Sitars, tablas, bass guitar and flugelhorn. Surprisingly good.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Victoria, uncharacteristically

Subject: Anglicana

Peter V: The Move - for "Flowers In The Rain", "Cherry Blossom Clinic" and much more. Thought of them when "The Last Thing On My Mind" was played at the bluegrass jam here on Wednesday. Reminded me of the Move's magnificent version on their "Shazam" album, which I saw in a used-record store here yesterday for $50.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Jed's health

Haven't heard from Jed in a while. Wonder if anyone has heard how he is?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Charlie Y, Fred, Glenn... :-D

I "met" Ray P via Billy Bragg.

I nodded off during Coltrane's music "Dear Lord" and "Ole" last weekend while watching Alvin Ailey performances celebrating 60 years. However, I felt energized during Ella's number "Airmail Special". Of course the spiritual numbers during Revelations...never disappoints. My memory betrayed me during a previous post; Donny Hathaway's "A Song For You"...was not a part of this program but another Alvin Ailey show I had previously seen. This weekend I am going to challenge myself and experience the Opera Elektra. Next month will see Sting perform in The Last Ship. I have only seen Sting perform when I was at Oakville's Police outdoor concert in 1981 with Iggy Pop...fantastic..., Oingo Boingo not a fan so not memorable, The Specials...can't remember but I really like them...lol...Canadian openers I can't recall at all so looked them up. The Payola$ and Nash The Slash.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Never heard of the show before, but I was essentially TV-less from '79-'90, which includes when I was 25.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: 5 for Friday

Happy Friday GB'ers! Been too busy to post for a while, but enjoyed reading discussions of recent weeks. Thank you all for contributing. Here's 5 of the most recent albums I've listened to.

Al Green: I'll Rise Again

Jefferson Airplane: Surrealistic Pillow

Rod Stewart: Every Picture Tells A Story

Gail Ann Dorsey: I Used To Be...

Linda Ronstadt: Live in Hollywood

Have a wonderful weekend!


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Posted by:

Peter V

English Settlement good too. I'll access that bottom row soon!


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Posted by:

Fred

Would XTC's album English Settlement qualify?


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Posted by:

Pat B

PV, Chalkhills is on that album which I absolutely love.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I was thinking "Oranges & Lemons" as the XTC album. Mrs V's mother was born in Cricklade, just north of Swindon and I know the area well. We've been in and around Swindon twice recently tracing family history. The other great Swindon connection is Richard Davies of Supertramp.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Peter V, XTC's "Chalkhills and Children" evokes the countryside around their hometown of Swindon.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Great story, Dunc. Hang on, are you sure it wasn't a Motherwell Band fan?


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Up On Cripple Creek

I was at the football last night. It’s about a million miles away from Al’s football. A fine, crisp February night with 5 000 fans in the ground - 4 000 of us and 1 000 of them. Always a great atmosphere with their younger ones taunting ours and vice versa. Us Scots do passion (that’s a euphemism) like few other nations - the swearing, the shouting, the fall outs among friends, the arguments, the pies and the bovril. Many will have had a quick drink between work and kick off. A lot of noise. There are few other places I would rather be.

At half time, music is played on our great, huge sound system. I never listen because of the normal choice of music, but discuss the game. Then out of the blue I heard ‘When I get off of this mountain...’

A beautiful sound drifting across the dark evening sky. The first time I have ever heard The Band played at a football match. I stopped and listened....a brilliant song.

Then I had a horrible thought. Was this it? At a football match with the Band playing. I couldn’t ask for more. Where were the angels.? I saw a bright light in the sky. Was it them? But it was only a plane going into Glasgow Airport. Still here.

But I’ll need to seek out the other St Mirren Band fan.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: XTC

XTC. Which song? Following my knee replacement last week, I have a problem. My CDs are in a floor to ceiling rack, and guess where XTC are, and I can’t kneel down. This is great for Mrs V, because I can't access Neil Young or Frank Zappa either. I could ask for assistance but what with having to make me constant cups of tea, I think I'll leave it.

I hate looking on YouTube. I first thought “Making Plans for Nigel” with Nigel off for a future working in British Steel (what happened to that?) which is by Colin Moulding, not as most of the choices, by Andy Partridge. The Mayor of Simpleton goes towards that Toytown Pysche area. Oranges and Lemons (say the bells of St Clemons) looks like the album. XTC fans … which is the most Anglicana XTC song? Do the Dukes of Stratosphear count?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Preservation Act One is within the Anglicana area anyway, but I wonder if "Cricket" veers into the novelty area? Have A Cuppa Tea is a great one. Must put "Muswell Hillbillies" back on!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Double thanks, Fred. TV notes and XTC.

XTC were mentioned by someone before and I forgot. They should be added but I'll have to think which one!


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Anglicana...submitted for your approval...

I've been enjoying the discussion about Anglicana.

I wonder if any or all of the following songs would qualify:

Cricket - The Kinks

Have a Cuppa Tea - The Kinks

Senses Working Overtime - XTC

All You Pretty Girls - XTC

Love on a Farmboy's Wages - XTC


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Speaking on behalf of all Ontarians who were 24 & 25 in 1987...

Peter V: Highly unlikely that any Canadian 25 year old (in '87) knew of that show....too busy watching Miami Vice! : )

As the avid TV watcher that I was back then I never came across it, not even on TVOntario nor on the PBS station from Buffalo (the two channels were you could find the most British programmes).

Coronation Street and EastEnders were on TV back then, if I recall correctly.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Quick Canadian question (I need to know for something I'm writing): Was the BBC TV series "It Ain'tHalf Hot Mum" ever shown in Canada? It starred Windsor Davies (RIP) and was about a concert party theatrical troupe inIndia in 1945. It ran 1974-1981. Would a 25 year old Canadian circa 1987 have been aware of its existence?(Even a little bit). Thanks!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Izzy Stockholm

Can't find anywhere why he moved to Stockholm of all places. He obviously loved it there. Stayed for the rest of his life.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Izzy Young

Yeah NWC, he was a great one. Dave Van Ronk has been referred to as the king of Greenwich Village but I think Izzy should hold that title; he was the main man and had the main place where so much of the place’s creativity eminated from.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I note that you've already determined that "My Name Is Jack" sounds sufficiently English to be Anglicana, and I agree. As you know, I've always held that that Jack is a dog, living in the back of Bob Dylan's house and-or the Big Pink, i.e., Greta 'I vant to be alone' Garbo's Home for Wayward Boys and Girls (not to mention Rock Musicians). Happy Jack may in fact be the same pooch, though Peter Townshend decided it sounded better to say "Happy Jack was a man, who lived in the sand at the Isle of Man" than "Happy Jack was a dog, who lived in some logs at the Isle of Dogs". Either way, the kids would all like Jack ...


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Izzy (again)

Izzy is talking about Dylan from early years in 'No Direction Home'. Probably you knew that already.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Izzy Young

Izzy Young is dead. He ran his Folklore Centrum in the South of Stockholm Sweden. Many times I walked by this door but never knew who he was, an old man over 90 years. In the present years I searched a contact with Izzy . . . sort of. After all he arranged the first concerts with BOB DYLAN and JOAN BAEZ. I soon realized that this period in my life is now (more or less) over.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Milk N Blues

Thanks Bill........but Hell! can that girl play the harp or what?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, that meant "Too Bill M." It was from me.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Anglicana

I'm continually adding. Just added:

I'll take Bill M's suggestion of Happy Jack for The Who.- like The Kinks it has that la-la-la chorus, and let's not be picky (The Isle of Man where Jack lives is not England).

Mention of Paul Nicholas, an actor with hit records, led me to remember Dennis Waterman's I Could Be So Good For You. It was a UK #3 hit in 1980.Waterman co-starred in Minder with George Cole, for which it was the theme song, and maybe the association helps as does the video. The brassy swagger gets it a place.


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Posted by:

Karl-Heinz

Location: Germany

Subject: CD box Other peoples music

Hi, are there any news concerning this CD box?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Anglicana

Peter V: I don't agree with all of it, but your article is a terrific piece of work. Thanks! I'd put the Who's "Happy Jack" in there, no question. I'm glad you mention Bonzo Dog Band, as their "My Pink Half Of The Drainpipe" most certainly shares a wall with the Manfreds' "Semi-Detached Suburban Mister James". (The line "My pink half of the drainpipe keeps me safe from you" always lights up the dormant urban planner in me.)

You mention Rodney Crowell in your Americana article. A minor personal irony is that my favourite Cowell song is "The One About England", which I like to play right before Nick Lowe's "The Rose of England", Sparks's "England, and, when I had it, Clash's "This Is England".


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Ayub Ogada RIP

Another magnificent voice very recently lost to us. I have just the one Real World album, but it's a perfect one.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

As a favour to Norm, here's a link to the Milk & Blues video that he was gushing over.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

This is an album we did with Kevin Coyne back in 2005. Took 15 hours to record in one session. He died while Jon Langford was mixing it.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Great article

Great article, Peter. Really caught my interest. First time I had heard of Anglicana.

Playing Marjory Razorblade just now. What a brilliant song ‘House On The Hill’ is. Saw Kevin Coyne in Dundee in front of hundreds with his band in the early seventies then about 1990 on his own in front of tens. Both times really good shows. Anglicana to the core.

Great illustrations.

Well done, Peter. It deserves a wider audience.

Thanks, Dag. Took me back.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: OGWT link

Many thanks, Dag. I spent years looking for that which I remember seeing on broadcast. I always thought they had done a cartoon treatment of either King Harvest or Just Another Whistle Stop but after much searching it seems unlikely they did.


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Web: My link

Subject: The Old Grey Whistle Test 1973

"Promised Land" on the Whistle Test, November 27, 1973. The cartoon used is a Flip the Frog film called "The Village Smitty" from 1931.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Milk & Blues

BIIILLLL! Some one has to put up this one video of these young folks from Brazil. You can't believe how good they are plus the sound they get plus the girls. They do on this one video Stones & Pink Floyd. "Miss you, Happiest Days of Our Lives & Another brick in the Wall"..........Damn

The room they are set up in is giving a super clear sound, the musicians are great the singing and harmonies perfect!


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Posted by:

Pat B

Peter V, I know they are already represented but The Strawbs "Down By The Sea" is a natural. "Shipyards" by Interview is musically new wavey but the voice and lyrics really fit the bill. Finally "Octopussy's Garden" should get its own chapter in the Freud Rock lexicon.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: More Anglicana

The Anglicana article has been heavily revised and is 33% longer plus it has more illustration. Thanks for comments and of course it's still open to more … that's how all my Band song articles grew.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: If I Was An Englishman

Link to a live version by Michael Marra.

It's a good point - it's hard to celebrate just "being English" and it's more likely that we celebrate being West Country, or Yorkshire or Geordie or Liverpudlian. It's a diverse lot to hold together, though that's why I'm seeking this "Anglicana" thing. I'm going to revise the article extensively based on suggestions.

Dunc, I guess it's the same in Scotland with Lowlands and Highlands having different cultural patterns, though since Sir Walter Scott I suppose a Highland template has been what outsiders see as "Scottish culture." Most tartans apparently were invented in the 1820s. I've been working with someone from the Western Isles (second time in my life) and native Gaelic speakers have a very different accent in English. It certainly runs into Ireland with the North first, then Dublin being very different to the West. It runs into Wales with South and North - my mother being from South Wales said that there was always antipathy from North Wales (often Welsh speaking) towards the South (whatever they say nowadays, basically English speaking for seven centuries).

But in spite of those internal differences, the world perceives Scottishness, Welshness and Irishness in a way they don't perceive "Englishness."


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: If I Were An Englishman (For Martin Carthy)

Thought that about the Melodeon, Peter.

I think the song 'If I Were An Englishman (For Martin Carthy)' written by the great, late Michael Marra is a really good example of Anglicana. Could somebody link it? I think it would be a great song for ordinary Englishmen to sing. I think Anglicana is about celebrating being English, having pride in being English.

This is from James Robertson's biography on Michael Marra.

'The story behind 'If I Were an Englishman' is also instructive in several ways

Michael Marra is speaking - 'At the time that the Scottish Parliament opened, I was in America. I was at a wedding in San Francisco, and one of the other guests was a great man, Martin Carthy, I'm sure some of you know his work, he's a wonderful fellow, Martin, and he's always encouraged me. And we were talking at the wedding about the fact that the Scottish Parliament had opened, and Martin had recently been awarded an MBE, so we were kind of teasing him, you know, and poking fun as you do when your pals get an MBE, we were saying things like well, you're a member of the British Empire, any chance of you slipping me some civil rights...stuff like that, generally we were having a laugh.

But Martin was talking about the fact that he reckoned English people were going to have a harder time celebrating being English than the rest of us do celebrating ourselves. He reckoned that Scots had a recognisable culture which they always employ and enjoy, and he didn't know if English people had that. And I was thinking about all the stuff I know, all the great things that have come out of England, because I enjoy touring there, I do it quite a lot, I play in hundreds of little towns and none of them remind me of the British Government. So I actually quite like it. So I had this idea for a song it's called 'If I was an Englishman'. I didn't actually write it that night because I found out to my surprise that I was unable to read or write. So I waited till the following day.'

The outcome is a song that celebrates England's radical tradition in politics and art:

If I was an Englishman I'd sing and dance and play

I'd dig out all the old ones and beseech you heed their say

Their vision of a better life in a land as bright as day

I'd do my William Morris dance and I'd be on my way.

It goes on to namecheck some of the Englishmen Michael most admired, including Thomas Paine, Stanley Spencer, Harold Pinter and Martin Carthy himself.

One verse, with typical Marra humour, places two unlikely heroes from common people way above their social superiors:

If I was an Englishman I'd raise my voice and sing

I'd enter in the House of Lords and make the rafters ring

I'd sing of all those noblemen of cabbages and kings

I'd do my Arthur Mullard dance and turf them in the bin

I's do my Norman Wisdom dance and turf them in the bin

This great song is a must for an Englishman. Roger, Peter and Al you need to learn it. It's a song for singing at Christenings, Marriages and Wakes of Englishmen.

I think the song like other Anglicana songs is an understated celebration of English life and culture. And the great Michael Marra writes it in English music, using an Englishman playing the clarinet beautifully for example.

P.S.Eliza Carthy has recorded 'Monkey Hair' by Michael Marra and performs it regularly...in an English way. Michael said it was the favourite song he wrote.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Good to hear Peter. I was imagining Boris Johnson leading an angry mob of torch and pitchfork bearing village idiots going from house to house destroying all forms of culture that did not fit into the category of Anglicana.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dunc: Melodeon … very English, I'd say. It's much used by Spiers & Boden and by Bellowhead. I was very firmly corrected by Jon Spiers when I referred to it as an "accordion" while buying a CD in the interval. He has a collection of such related instruments on stage that Garth would greatly admire.


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Posted by:

Peter v

Wallsend, that is what the Sunday Rupert Murdoch has as its headline and increasingly the paper (aka Sunday Times) is pushing its own convoluted political agenda, which is basically stirring. You remind me it’s time to stop buying it. I think they mean ‘stay out of London’ rather than the 1940 George VI planned evacuation to Canada.

On a happier Canadian link, it appears Canada’s Sunrise chain is bidding for HMV Uk, and is the choice of the record labels instead of the dreaded asset stripper opposition, I..e. They plan to sell records. But then I read that in The Sunday Times, so it’s unreliable. Last week, my local HMV said that as last crisis, they were not receiving any new releases.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, I hear that the authorities are making emergency plans to evacuate the Queen should Brexit turn ugly, I hope you have put in place similar plans with regard to your music collection.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Dustbowl Revival & Hot Club of Cowtown at Wolf Trap

I caught the matinee of the only East Coast appearance of the current Band-related tour by Dustbowl Revival and Hot Club of Cowtown at the Barns of Wolf Trap here in Virginia this afternoon. The concert was billed as part of a 50th anniversary tribute to The Band (loosely a tribute to the first two albums and first tour), but both groups mixed in their own songs as well. It was great two and a half hours of music which included all of the songs from the 7-track EP just released by Hot Club of Cow Town: "Look Out, Cleveland," "I Shall Be Released," "This Wheel's On Fire," "Long Black Veil," "When You Awake," Evangeline" (which they apologized for playing since it was a later song) and "Across the Great Divide." Highlights included "The Weight" and "Rag, Mama, Rag" which included both bands onstage. I particularly was impressed by the way Dustbowl Revival violinist Connor Vance mimiced Garth Hudson organ riffs with his instrument. After the show he walked up behind me and saw my Garth Hudson shirt, saying "I have to get one of those!" How nice to hear that from a kid young enough to be my son. The music lives.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Uniquely English

What about the English mama boy’s groups like New Order, Blur, Oasis, etc? I don’t think we had groups parallel to those? Somebody mentioned 70’s Pub Rock; I think those fit the Anglicana thing pretty well.


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Posted by:

Pat B

I'd think Jethro Tull would qualify although I'm much more familiar with Stand Up and Benefit.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

A lot of interesting posts in the GB.

I think the term Americana is used across this side of the pond as it lets the audience know what type of artist they are going to see. For example you can come from Ireland and belong to the Americana genre. My favourite singer songwriter is the late Michael Marra, who would always say ‘Don’t call me a folksinger.’

Our big Glasgow music festival loosely categorises music into Americana, Folk, World, Indie, Jazz and Soul, Traditional, Fusion and Gaelic. A big part of the festival is people who would not normally play together playing together.

But you have to be careful pigeon holing. I think The Band’s music reflects jazz/soul influences - Ophelia, Don’t Do It, Rag Mama Rag. This week I wanted to buy the Holland Dozier Holland story. Great music. It has The Band’s Don’t Do It on it amongst bands you would think of as soul. I desisted because of the price it has jumped to on Amazon. But the Band is a really soulful band.

But there is a case for Anglicana. Firstly it is a celebration of English music. It is saying there is music that is exclusively English. The terms Scottish and Irish are used frequently and nobody gives it a second thought.

It also helps make clear to my friends in the USA that England is not Britain or the United Kingdom. A Scottish crowd gets pissed off when the artist says ‘Hello Glasgow. It’s nice to be back in England again.’ I think it’s good that English people can celebrate their music as distinct music, the way that the much smaller countries of Scotland or Ireland can. It is not British, it is English.

Wales is more difficult. And thinking about this, I think a great Anglicana album is written by a Welshman.

I think the other home nations can sneer if England shows pride in anything English from art to football. Simply because they are the biggest nation.

I think Penguin Eggs is a shining example of Anglicana, Norman. I didn’t know about the impact of this album. I think one of the important reasons it is clearly Anglicana is the brilliant recorders work on the album. I see the recorder as an English instrument. The melodeon work is brilliant too, but is the melodeon English?

How am I doing Peter?


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John Q asked “Whereas The Beatles seemed to have been invented out of whole cloth; or did they come out of the Brit music hall stuff?“ The Beatles had so many influences that what they created did seem to be invented out of whole cloth. They started off doing straightforward stuff that fit a rock and roll band well. Lonnie Donnegon. Chuck Berry. Buddy Holly. Little Richard. A bunch of rockabilly cats like Carl Perkins and Gene Vincent and the like. But over time their set lists had a lot of soul (heavy on Arthur Alexander). Girl groups. Motown. George did novelty type numbers. Paul did standards. They did some 1920s/1930s stuff, rocked up. They may have been unique among their peers in covering an old Marlene Dietrich hit. They threw in current hits, sometimes done as send-ups if they didn’t like the song. Surviving set lists from around 1962 reveal a very eccentric stage act, more like the White Album than the the more polished Beatles people know. The early rock stuff they just learned from the record. The other stuff, with horns, and girl singers, and such, they had to take apart and re-arrange. Which is how they learned to write. And, yes, growing up they herald all the Music Hall and Bing Crosby and suc any other kid did (Paul’s dad had played piano in a band). The end result was, when they started doing their own stuff in 1963 (they weren’t really songwriters until they made records) it had so many ingredints in it, the influences were so varied, the result wasn’t really like anything else out there.


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