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Entered at Sat Oct 20 12:44:32 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Gentle Giant

As Bill M will attest, CHUM-FM led the way in playing British rock thanks to music director Benjy Karch; who loved pretty much everything that was coming out of England; during the early 70's. Gentle Giant was indeed a staple.


Entered at Sat Oct 20 05:41:15 CEST 2018 from (73.119.115.178)

Posted by:

Dave H

Subject: Visions of Robbie

I haven't read the new book yet, but here's my understanding of the questions surrounding the lead guitar on "Visions of Johanna." There were two separate Nashville sessions for Blonde on Blonde, February 14-17 and March 7-10, 1966, with a break in between during which Dylan continued to tour with the Hawks. Surviving records indicate that the album cut of "Visions" was recorded on February 14, 1966. But there is no evidence that Robbie Robertson accompanied Dylan to Nashville for the February recording session. He's not listed in the musician files for those dates, and he's not obviously audible on any of the other tracks cut during the first batch of recordings—even the early alternate takes of "Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat" also recorded on the 14th. (It's hard to imagine Dylan cutting that song in particular without Robbie playing on it, if Robbie indeed were in town.) Indeed, Robbie himself implies in his autobiography that he only attended the second set of Nashville sessions in March, which produced the album version of "Pill-Box Hat" as well as a few other cuts on which his guitar is by all accounts present, like "Pledging My Time" and "Obviously Five Believers." And Al Kooper's memory is not unimpeachable—Kooper has been known to insist that Dylan only made a single trip to Nashville in 1966, which is surely wrong given the other available evidence.

So how could it be Robbie Robertson playing the lead lines on "Visions"? Roger Ford's hypothesis is that RR was overdubbed later, at some point during the March sessions, onto the original February 14 recording. His evidence for this claim is that he doesn't hear any bleed-through of the lead guitar into Dylan's vocal mic in the surround-sound remix of "Visions," unlike the other instruments on the track. Seems plausible to me, though there isn't any documentation of such an overdub. I certainly agree that the playing sounds more like Robbie than any of the Nashville musicians, but I wonder whether this will remain a mystery—perhaps appropriately so, for a song that itself is so musically and lyrically shrouded in shadows, dreams, and tricks played by the night.


Entered at Fri Oct 19 23:52:21 CEST 2018 from (109.144.217.140)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Gentle Giant

They used to be Simon Dupree and the Big Sound and were superb live so I believe it


Entered at Fri Oct 19 18:57:38 CEST 2018 from (64.229.14.119)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Speaking of record shows, at ours last week an English guy said to me that Gentle Giant was one of the best live bands ever. Having seen them once, in '75 as the opening act for J Geils Band and Jefferson Starship, I can see how that might be true.

Lisa: I hadn't heard the 'legally blind from birth' part before either, and it doesn't sound likely. It seems that he'd always worn thick glasses, but I don't think that's the same thing, necessarily, as being legally blind. (Of course, what's 'legal' changes from place to place and time to time anyway - viz just this Weednesday.)

HVD: Nice story about Rick.


Entered at Fri Oct 19 18:47:49 CEST 2018 from (2600:387:6:806::41)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Or his left hand or both


Entered at Fri Oct 19 18:46:19 CEST 2018 from (2600:387:6:806::41)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Talcum powder

I’ve read that Jeff Beck uses a load of that on his right hand as a sort of lubricant. That he want a slippery fret board.


Entered at Fri Oct 19 15:07:39 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Jeff Beck & Tal Wilkenfeld

Got up this morning....05:30.....arthritis in the shoulders aching like hell. Got me a coffee ......and a couple of Tylenol.

So I put on the headphones and relax myself listening to these folks at the Cross Roads 2007. So as I'm watching this I notice something. At 1:30 on the tape there is a closeup of Jeff's hands as he plays. It looks to me like he has a lot of resin on his fingers of his right hand. Must be resin huh?....couldn't be the other stuff.......could it????


Entered at Fri Oct 19 11:46:49 CEST 2018 from (1.43.129.8)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Just came across a nice clip of Rick I hadn't seen before. You can find it if your search: Rick Danko Sings Long Black Veil with Happy and Artie Traum & Gang


Entered at Fri Oct 19 10:25:39 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Thin Wild Mercury Music

The new Daryl Sanders arrived yesterday. I have two train trips this weekend and was looking forward to reading it on the train. I opened it at random to find him stating that Robbie does not play on Visions of Johanna and was not in Nashville that day. We've done this before and someone managed to ask Al Kooper face to face. I'd go with Al Kooper, but I felt irritated and don't feel like reading the rest yet. A novel takes its place in my bag.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 20:01:17 CEST 2018 from (163.151.255.10)

Posted by:

Hudson Valley Dude

Subject: Rick Danko

Quick story, saw Rick Danko years ago at the Turning Point in Piermont. Had some albums and things for him to sign, waiting outside his bus, weather was poor(forgot if it was raining or freezing),he opens the door and says we shouldn't be waiting outside to come inside his tour bus and he will sign everything and answer any questions (WOW)so we proceed inside ,he signs everything talks to us for a while,I ask is there any chance he will play "Unfaithful Servant" he says its not on the setlist,anyway we thank him for his kindness and go into the club get a table at the side of the stage watching the opening act. He comes in heads for the dressing room in the back see's me walks up to the stage grabs a guitar points at our table and plays "Unfaithful Servant" and goes to his dressing room to get ready for his show that didn't start for another 45 minutes. That's the kind of guy he was !!


Entered at Thu Oct 18 19:58:25 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Bill, Scott's story was first posted on Slippedisc, a widely read classical music blog from Europe, when he was first reported missing, and followed up a few days ago. I was surprised, as rock news is generally not covered there and when it is, it's usually confined to the big names. I was also surprised to read in the story you posted that he was legally blind from birth - in all the times his name's come up in all the Band references, I don't believe I ever read that before. Is it true?


Entered at Thu Oct 18 18:11:33 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Cliff Richard review

Long review of Cliff (Sir Cliff) Richard and his 60th Anniversary tour. Might be news for North Americans. His first hit was 1958, but to my surprise he is actually 6 days younger than John Lennon!


Entered at Thu Oct 18 16:44:08 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:51eb:9004:f162:c772)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: I don't want to have a nice day, Amos

I agree, Amos. I really like that version of 'Excuse Me Mister', but I don't know the original.

You've got me playing and enjoying Greg Brown, including playing the above mentioned track...and smiling.

A starting point is to get him to either play solo at Celtic Connections or in Transatlantic Sessions is to contact the director of Celtic Connections, our big New Year festival. However there will be a change of director this year.

Contact donaldshawatglasgowconcerthallsdotcom

Hopefully he will respond. Thanks, Amos.

Hope you got some prawns and crabs, Norm. Had a Scottish prawn baguette with side salad at a pleasant cafe for lunch. Played several Village Stompers' tunes - I know the tunes. What an unusual dance in the video.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 15:59:20 CEST 2018 from (64.229.14.119)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Lisa: The BBC is onto the Cushnie story - though there's no mention of Robbie or Ronnie. I'm glad they noted that Scott had a great sense of humour and would have found the story hilarious if he'd been here to hear it. That's exactly what a friend who guested with the Suedes a couple times told me on Tuesday.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 15:18:56 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What's in a name

Well Bill it just means to me now there will be more people just "legally" blowing that shit in my face. I got nothing against it. The smell of it just makes me sick for some reason.........oh and Bei Bir, I thought maybe you were a great fan of that kid whose name we don't like to mention (Bieber is it?) :-)


Entered at Thu Oct 18 15:06:04 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Scott Cushnie

Been a lot of talk about Scott Cushnie the last few days. Very sad news of his death for such a brilliant musician and a very giving person This is called Early In The Morning.. He was there back in the beginning of the Toronto Sound. Here is a track from Two Pianos No Waiting. There are in fact 3 pianos. The late great Doug Riley and Ms. Joan Besen.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 14:29:26 CEST 2018 from (64.229.14.119)

Posted by:

Bill M

Norm: The fact that I said "Bei Bir" had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that yesterday was the day that a large number of our compatriots were out buy pot. As you know well, but potential tourists from the GB may not, October 17, 2018 is the day that marijuana (possessing, growing, cooking with …) was legalised in Canada - across the board and not just for medical reasons.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 09:39:26 CEST 2018 from (79.75.170.126)

Posted by:

Amos

brown eyed girl - so many great Greg Brown albums

Going Driftless: An Artist's Tribute to Greg Brown (Various artists)

Milk of the Moon

Covenant

Freak Flag

The Evening Call

Dream City: Essential Recordings, 1997-2006

I hope you find his music as wonderful as i have done over the years.

Dunc - Transatlantic Sessions has to be a contender for the greatest music series ever! John Martyn's version of Ben Harper's Excuse Me Mister is one of my highlights from the series. I just want to know how to get Greg Brown on the next series? I think he would be perfect.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 07:33:02 CEST 2018 from (2001:4644:9569:0:40b5:9548:ff54:b6bf)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Don't Start Me Talkin'...

Garth at The Vault in Camden, NJ, last wekend, talking about playing with Richard and Levon.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 06:10:44 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: To me you are beautiful

You had it almost right Bill. The second word is Mir. I remember long ago trying to find the real meaning. I had it pretty right. However now a day on the internet here there is contradiction. I haven't found the original of the song. It means to me you are beautiful. Some want to say it is a Yiddish folk song. Others say it is just plain German. There is no way for me to know. I think the song came out around 1937 there is umpteen different recordings of it.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 04:00:43 CEST 2018 from (64.229.14.119)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Lisa: Thanks for your note about Scott Cushnie. He was a nice soul and a fine musician. I was surprised that he even had a website - see link - which fortunately is still up. Taken together, the videos give a pretty good sense of his music and style. If you have time for just one, try the top right. If you remember 1980, you'll know that not many people were playing those songs like that.

Norm: Scott's Professor Piano and the Canadian Aces album includes a nice version of "Bei Bir Mist Du Schon" (spelling?), I believe. As does "The Canadian Aces Live at Albert's Hall", recorded back then but not released until Pacemaker put it out on CD in 2009.


Entered at Thu Oct 18 01:05:20 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Village Stompers .........AGAIN!

Dunc, on youtube you can get "Top Tracks of the Village Stompers". I'm sure what you would also like is their song "Bei Mir Bist Du Schon". What you will be hearing is a real Dixie Land, N'Awlins brass band sound.

Funny you mentioned brass and I immediately thought of the Village Stompers. I haven't listened to them in years but in the early 60's they were really hot!


Entered at Wed Oct 17 22:47:14 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Village Stompers

That's all great stuff Dunc and I'll be listening to as much as I can. Make no mistake. It's a great way to spend retirement. When I have time. My retirement is a busy place.

Right now our weather is beautiful (what we call Indian summer). I had wood piled and tarped outside. I'v used a little so that I have room to split some more and get it inside which is what I'm doing as well as getting little chores on my boats done. I also have to get the prawn and crab traps out.

I mention the "Village Stompers" because if you like brass, listen to "Washington Square" way back from the 60's. It starts with banjo then becomes full blown brass. A real catchy tune.

Retirement is GREAT!


Entered at Wed Oct 17 22:01:42 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:7135:9c26:a72:a310)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Spencer The Rover

I've spent about three hours on this today. One of my favourite English songs is Spencer The Rover. I think it is from Sussex, Peter, Roger - so a great Southern English song.

I came across it on Sunday's Child by John Martyn, years ago. But I liked the lyrics - universally appropriate - someone away from home in Yorkshire missing their children. Also chosen by English guys on Desert Island discs ...and I can see why.

But today I played versions by Shirley and Dolly Collins, beautiful singers; a recording by Robin Dransfield backed by a brass band - I like brass bands; an unaccompanied version by the Copper Family from the fifties, and this family kept the song alive - enjoyable too. I don't know anything about these singers.

Then I heard a modern, beautifully produced version by the Irish singer, Cara Dillon, this version influenced by John Martyn's version.

But my favourite version is from Transatlantic Sessions and John Martyn is backed by Danny Thompson, Phil Cunningham, Ally Bain and Jay Ungar. Absolutely brilliant. Have a look on Youtube.

If you give it a go on Youtube, take a look at May You Never by John Martyn with Danny Thompson, Kathy Mathea and Jerry Douglas. Over a million hits.

I think this is a valid use of retirement time...mmm...


Entered at Wed Oct 17 19:27:43 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Brian Bennett was the highly-rated drummer of The Shdows.


Entered at Wed Oct 17 18:51:28 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Alll the Road Running

Glad you enjoyed that Dunc. I believe I made one error. I called Richard Bennett, (Brian). I have a friend named Brian Bennett I suppose is where that came from. There is sure a great linup of musicians playing with Mark on that tour.


Entered at Wed Oct 17 13:44:33 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:a551:3782:9814:cdd2)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Norm. Played the album on Youtube and enjoyed it. It does have a Celtic feel to it. I don't have anything of Mark Knoeffler (sp?), but saw him as support for Bob on one of his tours.

I have several Emmylou Harris albums and have seen her a few times. She can certainly do Celtic. You probably know this already, but if you don't, check out the Transatlantic Sessions on Youtube where country meets Celtic.


Entered at Wed Oct 17 11:11:21 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

There's another Atlantic label Jamaican LP, from a year earlier, 1964. That's "Jamaica Ska.' They must have dipped a toe in the water and retreated. That also has Byron Lee, as well as the Maytals.


Entered at Wed Oct 17 04:33:16 CEST 2018 from (64.229.14.119)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Nice story, nice image. Thanks for sharing it.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 22:40:33 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:55d6:c0b2:dc46:ec77)

Posted by:

Pat B

I played in a Chicago-based funk band in the mid-70's that worked in Canada a number of times. We played a place near Montreal that had a big supper/show room on the first floor and a rock club in the basement. Byron Lee and the Dragonaires were in the show club and we became fast friends with the musicians. Lee only showed on the weekends. They spent a lot of times downstairs oohing and ahhing at my Hammond B2 modified to a B3. During the days they taught us soccer and we taught them baseball.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 22:08:58 CEST 2018 from (64.229.14.119)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronno
Web: My link

Peter V: Thanks for the Byron Lee post. Although dismissed as too loungey it seems, he and the Dragonaires was big around here from the mid-'60s well into the '70s, touring through regularly and releasing a surprising number or albums. Most of the them were on the Transworld label - never Atlantic. One was called "Blast Off" I recall, and one was called "Reggay" (then a newish word with unfixed spelling). If you recall when we standing at the record show in Brighton a few years ago, perhaps admiring your newly bought US promo copy of Hawkins / Hawks "Bo Diddley" / "Who Do You Love", I got excited at one point when a rock steady record come over the PA and I nipped over to find out what it was. What it was was an early record by trumpeter / singer JoJo Bennett, who'd jumped ship from the Dragonaires in Toronto (in '67 or '68) to join a local group, the Cougars. The link is to a song he'd recorded with the Dragonaires not long before. By the late '70s he was leading the Satellites, a very successful - and still running - Toronto-based reggae group.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 20:24:32 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

"I never forget, and I never forgive" - now there's a code to live by!

Bill, thank you for all the Scott Cushnie updates. So sad, and rather bizarre.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 18:49:42 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Listening: It's been an enjoyable week or two with the Bobbie Gentry box set. I've tended to play one CD all day while I'm working, and I agree that CD4 - with Glen Campbell is the weakest by far.

The other on replay has been "Jump Up" by Byron Lee. An unusual plunge into Caribbean music by Atlantic (of all labels) recorded in Jamaica in 1965, though the "Jump Up" rhythm is Trinidad. I found the LP recently … a big brass section, organ, three percussionists and NO guitar. I think several tracks are bass pedals on the organ too. It took me to back to Georgie Fame's "Rhythm & Blue Beat" EP from the same era. Georgie Fame's "Madness" is the track that named the two-tone band. Atlantic toyed with Jamaican music a bit in 1965, but I guess never had the local expertise and contacts of Island.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 17:26:03 CEST 2018 from (65.92.192.194)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

A place where you wouldn't normally find a former Hawk - Aerosmith's "Big Ten Inch Record". Scott Cushnie got this gig because producer Jack Douglas had played guitar is several bands and on several records with Scott in the US and Toronto between '67 and '71.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 16:49:36 CEST 2018 from (65.92.192.194)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: link to "Down In The Alley"

I like the accompanying photos, including some of Scott Cushnie in the '70s and the early '80s when he ran a fabulous group called Professor Piano and the Canadian Aces (who focused on music from the '40s - when they weren't called Professor Piano and the Rockin' Deltoids performing rockabilly from the '50s).

Cushnie had a long, spotty and interesting career with Ronnie Hawkins. In the winter of '59/'60 he was hired from the Suedes to replace Will 'Pop' Jones (and brought in Robbie Robertson soon after). In '64-'65 he returned to Hawkins to do A&R and run the Hawk publishing arm of Hawkins's new record label; he also sang lead, uncredited, on the Stratotones' first record for the label, produced Ronnie's first record for the label, and Robbie Lane's first record, and joined another of the label's groups, the Vendettas. And in '69 he returned to Hawkins to replace Richard Bell when Bell left for Janis Joplin's Full Tilt band. Hence his appearance on the Muscle Shoals album along with fellow-Hawk Richard 'King Biscuit Boy' Newell. (Then Hawk drummer Larry Atamanuik also accompanied Hawkins to the sessions in Alabama, but the producer wanted to go with his usual David Hood - Roger Hawkins rhythm team.)


Entered at Tue Oct 16 16:38:26 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Straght Goods

Actually the truth is Paul Simon is a Hobbit! So you guys shouldn't be picking on him.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 16:14:25 CEST 2018 from (65.92.192.194)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

At this link you can hear Scott Cushnie playing with Ronnie Hawkins, with Duanne Allman and King Biscuit Boy tearing it up in the foreground. This, likely edited to some degree, was the B-side to Hawkins's minor 1970 hit, "Down In The Alley", on which Cushnie is more prominent.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 00:39:00 CEST 2018 from (65.92.192.194)

Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks for the link. In an attempt to correct what might become the historical record, it was 1959 and it was the Consuls, not Little Caesar and the Consuls (which is what the remaining pair decided to call the new group they put together after Robbie, Peter and Gene had bailed to join Scott). Minor points, I know.


Entered at Tue Oct 16 00:36:51 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: "Short People Got No Reason"

Does anyone remember that song from the late 70's? My younger brother Lorne played lead guitar with me for quite a while then. Like our father Lorne is 5'5". I'm just over 6'. If I walked over to Lorne's side of the stage to say something to him he would freak. Get on your own side, don't stand by me. He was real young then. He wore 3 or 4 inch lifts and was mad as hell about his height. Well that song came out, (it's probably on youtube. He said if you ever play that song I'm walking off the stage. One day while he was complaining, I said but you know Lorne the way you play and everything you do you are 10 feet tall in my eyes. Well he just about started to cry. Thanks Norm he says. Too many little guys just have that short man attitude that they hate every thing.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 23:20:12 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you Bill M.

"It was about that time — 1958 or so — that Cushnie met Robbie Robertson, a young guitarist playing guitar with Little Caesar and The Consuls.

"They came to a dance hall in Oakville. There was a big upright piano sitting by the stage. They played all these Chuck Berry songs and I knew all the piano parts by heart from the radio. So I went up, took the front off the upright, and played along with the band. I was 18 and Robbie was maybe 16."

After the show, Robertson and two other members of the band approached Cushnie, informed him that they were forming a new band and invited him to join on piano. Cushnie gave the band its name, The Suedes, as in Blue Suede Shoes.

Cushnie left to join Ronnie Hawkins and The Hawks. "I was the first Canadian in Ronnie's band," Cushnie says. "I played with him a few months, but I wasn't crazy about him.

"I brought Robbie into the band because he was my best friend. The bass player had stolen some money and they fired him out of the band. So I told Ronnie that he should get Robbie Robertson. Ronnie said, 'Does he play bass?' And I said, 'he can play anything.'"


Entered at Mon Oct 15 22:52:35 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you Peter. I was hoping that clip would be the one where Art did not rule out anything between him and Paul Simon.
My brother 5' 11' worked at a hotel where a lot of musicians hang out. He hung out with Tom Jones one day. Not sure how that transpired. He did tell me that he indeed wears lifts because of his height. Nothing wrong with that as we all have something we are not comfortable with and would change. The other day my new Naturopath was surprised that I am 5'4'' as she said I look taller. Maybe good posture? lol In the article about Paul and Art...Paul didn't like being a lot shorter than Art and Art didn't like that he was dependent on Paul for the songs. When I ran into Tom Wilson he looked shorter and much more approachable up close and personal. When I watch him perform he looks taller and quite intimidating. After the interview on TVO Ontario; not at all. :-D

Greg Brown...Anyone suggest which recording is worth buying/downloading? Thank you.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 22:09:23 CEST 2018 from (65.92.192.194)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: 4' 9" - perfect for a touring musician. Paul's transcontinental bus trip in "America" must've been a heck of a lot more comfortable than mine was. He's probably unfolded himself after a Singapore Airlines flight without even wincing.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 21:20:10 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Height

According to Wiki, Paul Simon is 5 foot 2 inches. Mrs V is 5 foot, a height I know well. I have seen Paul Simon enough standing against mics, Marshall stacks, other people, holding guitars etc. I would place him at 4 foot 10 inches maximum, probably 4 foot 9 inches. He is nowhere near 5 foot 2 inches.

Art Garfunkel looks a full foot taller. So if John D reckons he's 5 foot 8 inches, draw the conclusion.

I'm reminded of the Tom Jones show in 1968, where all the 5 foot 6 inch dancers on the previous show got replaced by a team of 5 foot dancers to make Tom look tall. I've stood next to him. On Wiki he claims to be 5 foot 9 inches. I am 6 foot 1 inches now, but 6 foot 2.5 inches then. I towered over him. 5 foot 4? Maybe 5 foot 5? Why do they lie?


Entered at Mon Oct 15 19:34:41 CEST 2018 from (65.92.192.194)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Bonk's post re Scott Cushnie

Here's a link to the article mentioned in Bonk's post about the send ending to the life of Scott Cushnie, the musician who got Robbie Robertson into Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 19:16:52 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I got the idea from the notes on the doors at the concert, and then watching the interviews just now, that he is something of a diva.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 18:57:56 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

JOHN D

Subject: Art

About 15 years ago Art came to town on a promotion tour. First I was surprised how short he was. Now when I say short, he was my height. About five foot eight. I guess watching him stand next to Paul, I now really know how short Paul was; or is. No big deal; but at the time I was surprised.

I have a ton of T shirts. I just threw one on that morning and after meeting him, I learnt something about him.

”So your tee shirt says New York; are you trying to impress me?” “Huh?” I said. Because he’s from New York I guess he thought I was trying to impress him. The radio station I was working for at the time was called CISS-FM, Toronto’s first New Country station. He asked me what he doing there guessing it was because of the format. I told him I didn’t know (I now getting a little miffed). “I guess it’s because your handlers brought you here.” Insert awkward silence. We then moved on to the interview and all went well. Hate it when your heroes disappoint. He might be a very nice guy; but not that day.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 18:57:11 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I think the forbidden word begins with g, has three letters, and ends with y, and a is in the middle. Garfunkel was saying there was nothing like that in their long relationship.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 18:56:01 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I found the clip, BEG and tried three times to post a transcript, but it gets the Johnny Cash finger every time. It must be a forbidden word.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 18:12:41 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sunday Morning
Art Garfunkel on his voice linked.

Another video is not available here. Could you check it out Peter? Art Garfunkel on his teaming with Paul Simon | 0:37
In this web extra, singer Art Garfunkel reads a passage from his new memoir, "What Is It All but Luminous," in which he frames his historic partnership with singer-songwriter Paul Simon.

I made a mistake as the Art interview was on CBS Sunday Morning show not on 60 Minutes. I watch religiously thanks to bob wigo who pointed us in that direction many moons ago. Many thanks.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 17:38:17 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Art

Thanks, BEG. Yes, that was the bit about Artie's saying his voice had recovered when it hadn’t. Wishful thinking, maybe. From my 2007 review of Art:

"Art Garfunkel doesn’t rock, as his onetime partner has said, but his voice is so sublime, it has healing qualities. We had dead centre front row seats for the show last night at Bournemouth Pavilion. Bizarrely, we had received a letter from the venue that morning (everyone did) reminding us that we MUST be seated before 7.30. Everyone was, and sat in silence for twenty minutes until it started, enlivened only by announcements that anyone wishing to go to the toilet must only do between songs. There were notices on the door saying “Loves, please do not open this door during the concert. It affects my concentration, Art.” So Art is a tad obsessive about a quiet seated audience- similar happened after the interval. They didn’t restart until every seat was taken in the sold-out theatre."

The notes were written by hand (presumably by Art), so obviously in the interval every one of them got purloined which should be predictable. He was extremely good though, and as we were dead centre front row, he seemed to fix on Mrs V's face (who is a very good attentive listener) and sang a couple straight to her.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Tom Wilson Pays Homage to Hamilton's Musical History with New Mural

The mural's title, The Mystic Highway, is Wilson's term for Highway 6, a route he believes has possessed rich musical mojo.

"In Hamilton, we've looked to Buffalo and we've looked down the Mystic Highway for inspiration," he explained. "Highway 6 runs from Hamilton through Port Dover, to Turkey Point. It's where Robbie Robertson spent summers on the Six Nations. It's where Ronnie Hawkins fired his drunk bass player and hired a young Rick Danko. It's where Canadian rock and roll got to party at Summer Gardens in Port Dover with 12-inch hotdogs and Speedo bathing suits. It's where migrant workers from the islands meet Six Nations and Mohawks and tobacco fields and tourists come together and developed their own kind of gumbo."

I was so close to having a conversation with Tom Wilson. I ran into him at the headquarters for Canadian Music Week looking for info re Levon's Ain't In It For My Health. We said hello and then just as I was about to blah, blah, blah...His daughter called him and that was that. There is also a very informative and honest interview I saw on TVO not too long ago. I really like BARK as they are so different as individuals and as musicians. They never disappoint when you see them perform at various venues in town.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

'I was tired of the drama. I couldn’t trust Art any more. He let us all down': Paul Simon on the toxic truth behind his lifelong feud with Art Garfunkel
By ROBERT HILBURN
PUBLISHED: 17:04 EDT, 21 April 2018 | UPDATED: 10:20 EDT, 22 April 2018

Whenever Art's films come up I rarely see mention of one of my faves...Bad Timing (A Sexual Obsession). Recently on 60 Minutes Art didn't totally count out anything...Theresa Russel and Harvey Keitel in film who I really like in any film and really cool guitar riff is playing when Art and Theresa meet at a party. Maybe it was a cult film for some of us.

Other films recently seen that I really enjoyed. Here are my last 5. I love lists Dunc.
Crazy Rich Asians
A Star Is Born
The Wife
Fahrenheit 11/9
Whitney

I would like to see Colette and Three Identical Strangers.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Nick Schilder & Simon Keizer

Peter have any of you guys heard these two young men sing? They have an acoustic accompaniment and they sing "Sounds of Silence, The Boxer and Cecelia" They do great justice to Simon and Garfunkel.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 14:04:38 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I’ve recounted this before. When we were doing our theatre shows for ELT students in the 1970s, we had a guy (Patrick) who had sung light opera and who could hit Bridge Over Troubled Water perfectly (and The Boxer). In many areas such as reliability, turning up late, he was a pain in the arse, but we tolerated him because we always did one or the other on every show, and he always got a standing ovation. We also had a great pianist, and a superb baby grand piano. This was when our drummer discovered that you could get the Moog effect in The Boxer by thumping a Watkins Copicat echo unit hard with your fist at the appropriate point, so we always had the echo unit next to the bass tom-tom.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I had heard that last time Art was using the vocal "lift" button on his mic for the high bits - you can bring in a pre-recorded track that way. I still might try and see him - he was very good but that was a few years ago.


Entered at Mon Oct 15 13:53:57 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Paul Simon

In hindsight I have to agree with Peter about the song itself. As Simon was near the end of the song I turned to my son and said, "that's a really, really hard song to sing." So maybe I should give Paul the benefit of the doubt; because the first song was really good.. It's a very hard song to sing; although Garfunkel is sure to sing it on his upcoming tour.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: John Simon on Jericho

Nearly at the end. John Simon said this about "Jericho."

"Then Levon told me he had enough of playing with Rick's melodic bass playing and craved a steady, more conventional player. So Rob Leon, a Woodstock fixture, would play most of the bass parts on the album."

Looking at the sleeve notes, Rob Leon is credited with bass on Too Soon Gone, Amazon and Jericho. There are a lot of sitting-in guests on the album. From John Simon's note, you'd expect it to be Stuff You Gotta Watch, Same Thing and Blues Stay Away From Me, none of them interesting enough melodically for a bass player of Rick Danko's quality. Paul McCartney and Rick Danko were the two great melodic bass players. I noted Rick looking bored on the blues numbers on stage, and Levon used to play bass guitar on Crazy Mama live. 12 bars with a basic riff are hardly challenging. I also realized that Amazon, Too Soon Gone and Jericho were not performed live. Did Rob Leon play more than he was credited for? Or was John Simon overstating it with "most of the bass parts."?

It also reveals a rift over material and direction that I had long suspected, which is why Rick was doing his melodic material with Danko, Fjeld, Anderson rather than getting it on albums by the reunited Band. .


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Paul Simon 2018

I've relinked my Hyde Park review. I'll cut and paste the bit on Bridge here:

On to the big one. Bridge Over Troubled Water. He said:

“This song felt as if it came through me, as if I was a conduit for it. Then I gave the song away and I seldom sung it after that, so I had a strange relationship to it as if it wasn’t my song, but tonight, on my final tour I’m going to reclaim my lost child.”

Slightly unfair to Art Garfunkel, though I know what he means. When you write something, sharing credit is hard. The most praised unit in our first textbook Streamline English pre-dated meeting my co-writer. I’d say only one word was changed from my original, and yet we were both praised equally for it. On the other hand, Artie’s soaring voice propelled Bridge Over Troubled Water to its status as one of the most popular songs of the century. It’s also untrue that Paul Simon hasn’t done it and rethought it himself, sometimes quite radically, as with the Jesse Dixon Singers on Live Rhymin’. However, nothing prepared me for this sublime treatment, in a lower key, but with a trumpet part that drew tears for its sheer beauty. END EXTRACT

He was indeed shaky on SNL, I agree. He was way better on "You Can't Run" because the arrangement with YMusic was worked up for the album. On Bridge he was trying to use YMusic and some of the band. Having seen him in the summer, it's not time to leave the ice (though he says he is). He is in way, way better voice than Bob Dylan was even 20 or 30 years ago. But "Bridge" is a swine to sing, and he did find it hard on that show. He has a huge repertoire. Maybe it's time to avoid it! He can still sing The Boxer brilliantly.


Entered at Sun Oct 14 22:08:30 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Paul Simon Last night on SNL

Paul Simon has said in the past that even though he wrote "Bridge" he really felt it was Artie's song; because of the way Art sang it. Last night proved it was Artie's song. It was a weak vocal from Simon and at times a little off pitch. It reminded me of a performance recently on TV from Tony Bennett; who I just adore; but at 92 Tony 's voice really didn't sound strong. However I just want to add that "Can't Run But"; from Simon sounded OK.

There's an expression in Canada. You'll see why. "A guy has to know when it's time to skate off the ice." I don't think I'm being harsh here. Gosh I'm such a Canadian. Always apologizing. :-)


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: All the Road Running

Thank you Dunc. Very much enjoying Tony McManus. His playing style put me in mind of Marc Knofphler. That brought me to one of my most revered DVD's. All the Road Running with Emmylou Harris. There is a lot of Celtic music on that tour and I guess if I had to pick only one music to listen to it would be celtic. Perhaps it has to do with my grand father coming from Scotland on one side and my other grand fathers family coming from Wales.

I'd love to hear Tony play with Mark. If you chance to listen to "All the Road Running", a particular song, "I dug up a Diamond", Mark plays a Les Paul, as does Brian Bennett. The solo they play and harmonize guitars is chilling. I love it. Thanks for Tony, Dunc.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and brown eyed girl's fave cover would be by Jeff Buckley at 125 million.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The absurdity of popularity on the internet. My granddaughter is learning “Hallelujah” for a school concert. She listens continuously to the Pentatonix version. It has had 359 MILLION views.

Paul Simon, Can’t Run But. Vancouver is 6,687. SNL is 22,000. Then Bridge Over Troubled Water at Hyde Park (an audience cellphone) is just 1,462 views.

Admittedly Leonard Cohen Live in London for Hallelujah hits 122 million views. k.d. lang in Winnipeg 2005 has 18 million views. John Cale official video has 374,414 views.

I do wonder about small kids singing it in chorus - has anyone ever listened to the lyrics?


Entered at Sun Oct 14 17:01:15 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

October 14, 2018, 9:58 AM
Tina Turner on her voice, finding serenity, and losing a son

I saw her in NYC at Radio City Music Hall in 1993. Chris Isaak opened for her. I found her show too rehearsed. I know I can be a harsh critic. I do love listening to her nuggets of wisdom as in this interview just an hour ago.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Happy birthday, Jan. Great site.

I enjoyed the song very much Norm, which took me on Youtube into Dan Fogelberg 'Another Auld Lang Syne or similar title', - a good song, Harper Valley PTA, Ode to Billy Joe, Del McCourie Band playing 'For What It's Worth', John Denver and Mama Cass playing 'Leaving On A Jet lane', The Band playing 'Up On Cripple Creek' and finished with a 2012's version of 'The Weight' at The US Americana Awards. Well worth a google. Busy doing nothing. Thanks, Norm. Make sure you check out, Tony McManus, self taught from a humble background and now living in Canada.

Playing 'The Bunch' and enjoying it. Linda Peters (then named) new to me this summer is a really good singer, the Dundee horns are great. Roger Ball is called Roger Bell and there are three Dundee horns, Mogul Thrash gets a mention. It is what it is - a bunch of young musicians playing songs they revere. A sing along. Thanks, Peter and Bill.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thanks Peter but video is unavailable here. So I am posting his performance of Can't Run But from when he performed in Vancouver. I like the Orchestra. Sorry about sounding so dismissive in my last post but I expected a lot from Simon and I know how much you dig him. For some reason as soon as I heard him perform last night....For me to turn the channel right away....


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Can't Run But

Can't Run But has the advantage of coming from the album (linked). This is the other one from SNL. BEG has linked Bridge for us.


Entered at Sun Oct 14 15:07:36 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bridge Over SNL

It's the same backing from YMusic as Hyde Park. That's online too (audience shot). Hyde Park had the sense of place and huge audience. The arrangements with YMusic probably work best on less familiar songs as on "In The Blue Light" because we have fewer preconceptions. I think YMusic is a great move for him, in that it gives a subtle edge. On the other hand his voice is thinning - more apparently than at Hyde Park, but I guess he was warmed up there.

Art Garfunkel has just announced a 2019 UK tour. The recent Paul Simon bio says they fell out when Artie said he could still hit the notes for a tour and he couldn't. I saw Art Garfunkel on his last UK tour. This one isn't coming to my town or near. I'm in two minds.


Entered at Sun Oct 14 15:03:53 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Peter and JD...When I saw Paul Simon on SNL last night I turned the channel right away. Anyway, I guess this was his second song last night which I missed.

Last 5 while on my way to Kleinberg's McMichael Art Gallery yesterday. I was sort of surprised...Now there is even a hip-hop exhibit.
Oh La De Da...The Staple Singers
Let's Do It Again...The Staple Singers...Sexy song for the gospel group.
I Still Belong To Jesus...Robert Randolph...Thank you Robbie for exposing him via your playlist to performing with him.
Sweet Angeline...Elvis Presley
Creep...TLC


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Paul Simon Last night on SNL

Would love to read any comments; on Paul Simon; who appeared last night on SNL. I have my own thoughts; which I will share later. Thanks.


Entered at Sun Oct 14 12:57:19 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The new book on The Band promises unpublished interviews with Jerry Garcia and Andrew Loog Oldham. OK, but I have a feeling the Jerry Garcia interview can't be recent on the grounds of him being deceased. Andrew Loog Oldham is an interesting raconteur in his books. He hasn't mentioned The Band before. Should be interesting.


Entered at Sun Oct 14 12:33:53 CEST 2018 from (83.248.191.8)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Mr. Hoibergs BIG 6-0

I second to NORM's idea to a gathering at Mr. Hoibergs BIG 6-0 in Norway and this site's BIG 2-5. Maybe we could do what I have dreamed about since the year 2000: the gb community could "record" The Best Of The Very Best Of The Band. I promise to boil my blues harmonica in whiskey and marinate my banjo in cough medicine! - OK, it is easy for me to say. Only a few hours car drive on E6.


Entered at Sun Oct 14 10:44:23 CEST 2018 from (210.86.87.98)

Posted by:

Rod

Yeah I'll probably buy it in case I miss something. Just ordered John Simons book the other night. Looking forward to that one


Entered at Sun Oct 14 04:31:11 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Carpet Bagger Gome On

It always amazes me that every time some one writes a book they are compelled to tell us. "We have pictures and interviews NEVER SEEN BEFORE! I wonder when they are going to run out of things that have been digging into people's lives.

Of course the hard core fans will buy it because they are afraid they might miss something.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: New TB book

Worth ordering a copy, I guess?


Entered at Sat Oct 13 21:07:07 CEST 2018 from (1.43.129.8)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, I hope you were not hinting at the fact that being 60 is just the same as every other damn year. We can never let that secret get out.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Scott Cushnie

Sorry. National Post.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Scott Cushnie

It looks like the mystery to Scott's disappearance has been solved. I can't attach the article but it's online at the Toronto Sun. Very sad.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Maybe this doesn't belong here.........but

I am greatly moved listening to Andrea Bocelli and Sarah Brightman sing "Time to Say Good Bye".


Entered at Sat Oct 13 15:56:30 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Shit Disturber

Peter! Quit trying to intimidate yer host!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Happy birthday Jan

A year to go. When you get to the next one you will discover what we all discover at 60, but we all have to swear never to tell anyone who is younger. So I cant tell you but It is embarassing, awful and universal. Don’t worry about it for another year.


Entered at Sat Oct 13 10:24:33 CEST 2018 from (210.86.87.248)

Posted by:

Rod

Happy birthday Jan . Thanks for creating this site...and keeping it going


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Posted by:

Lisa

A mere babe! Many happy returns, Jan!


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Posted by:

John D

Happy Birthday Jan. All The Best!


Entered at Fri Oct 12 22:28:30 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Healthy Happy Birthday to Jan the Man!

It is so good to see you Ray!!!!


Entered at Fri Oct 12 21:29:24 CEST 2018 from (70.30.45.165)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: jh

Best birthday wishes from the Great White North, at least before DJT deems otherwise.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Happy birthday Jan..

... but to call 59 getting old sort of hurts my feelings, and likely some more of the geezers here.


Entered at Fri Oct 12 20:12:08 CEST 2018 from (65.92.194.36)

Posted by:

Bill M

Jan H: Best wishes. 'Fifty nine' has such a nice sound that we'll understand if you choose to reuse it. May there be many more celebrations to come in any case.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Getting old

Have a good birthday Jan (yer just a kid yet :-). Do we have to come to Norway for the party next year?? I'm in!


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Getting old...

...yours truly is celebrating his 59th today. With good friends, a big paella cooked up by the SO and lovely Spanish red wine flowing free. Next year this site will celebrate it's 25th...


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Two Things

Thanks for that pony song Bill! I love it. That's my kind of music. I woke up this morning at 5 o'clock with The Vogues "5 o'clock World" running thru' my head. Now I'm not sure if it is a pop song or rock. It's the last one I remember some one yodeling in.

Actually 3 things. Now Dunc, (and some of the rest of yuz) need to listen to what I said the other day because it seems you are wanting to listen to acoustic stuff. Johnathan McEuen and his son John playing Dan Fogelberg's old song "The Leader of the Band". It's a great song and they do a good job. LISTEN to it!


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Posted by:

ray mizumura

Location: Lawrence Kansas / flyover country / the heartland / 2008 NCAA Men's basketball champions University of Kansas

Subject: black Klansman

Peter -- Thank you for doing this review. I’ve been having a look at The Band guestbook again, too. Always a nice place to be–“oh, to be home again…” I wanted you to know that here at the University of Kansas, one of our top professors is Kevin Wilmott, a co-writer of the Lee film. He’s a superb director, too. Born and bred in Kansas–he’s still here, although I’m sure he has other opportunities. One day he's in Cannes, the next he's in Kansas.

Ron Stallworth visited the University of Kansas campus recently for some speaking and book signing activities.

Very nice to read you, Pat Brennan, Brown Eyed Girl, and all the fine Band people here. I may weigh in with a comment or two again soon...fair warning ;)


Entered at Fri Oct 12 02:20:49 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Thank you Norm, I'm glad to hear that.


Entered at Thu Oct 11 23:17:31 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Good and the Sad

That's good John. I'm going to remember that! I used a wrong word. It's never pathetic. Some times it's sad. There have been times when Susie gets upset with herself for forgetting. She is one of these people who worries a lot.

So I hold her and reassure her, she's ok. She gets all panic stricken that she is getting alzhiemers. I say no you are not! We are just getting a little old, hell I forget lots. I tried to just joke once. I said well if you get alzheimers you only need to own one movie then.....I just about got beat up for that remark.

I notice Joan is posting on face book with some of the old gang like Jan and Deborah.


Entered at Thu Oct 11 22:14:24 CEST 2018 from (129.97.124.28)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

JQ: Glad you liked what you heard of Julian Fauth. You probably found this promo video for the "Everybody Ought to Treat a Stranger Right" album. The title song, which opens, has audible background vocal contributions from Terra Hazelton who BEG, Wittenstein and I (all at different tables) heard singing with Garth Hudson and Jeff Healey at Jeff's club many years ago, and from Julian's Electro-Fi label mate Harrison Kennedy, who'd been a member of the Chairmen of the Board in the '70s. (He sang lead on their second hit, "Chairman Of The Board").


Entered at Thu Oct 11 21:12:42 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Me

Thank you Beg for posting that link. It is actually 5 decades. Yikes!!!


Entered at Thu Oct 11 20:29:22 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Bandishly??? :-)

beg, I've been worried about Joan for quite a while now. I know her health was a problem and she was finding it harder and harder to post. I hope she's okay and at least is still able to read everything here.


Entered at Thu Oct 11 19:51:38 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: NORM

About forgetting. You'll love this one Norm.

In 1995 Ronnie Hawkins and I were travelling to Arkansas. He told me we would make a stopover ; just outside of Nashville and spend a couple of days with one of his old guitar players. OK OK I'm getting to the point now.

We were having lunch and the guitar player says something to his Mom that he mentioned to her the day before. The Mother replies with I forgot. Mother it was only yesterday I told you that. Here it comes. The Mother looks at his and says quietly, "I know son; but I've slept since then." We all laughed pretty hard. I use that line all the time now and get a snicker; or two.


Entered at Thu Oct 11 19:26:20 CEST 2018 from (2600:387:6:804::17)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: How I Won the War and Julian Fauth

PV - I’m really enjoying and learning from your film reviews. Oddly I know much less about that era than I know about the 30’s through film noir’s time into the early 50’s.

Bill M - Thanks loads for the intro to Julian Fauth. I’m just now going through his catalog and it seems right up my alley as far as my current tastes.


Entered at Thu Oct 11 18:47:37 CEST 2018 from (129.97.124.28)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Peter V: Glad you posted about Bobbie Gentry, as it reminded me to post this link to a review of new documentary about the life of singer-songwriter Gene MacLellan. (Gentry to Glen Campbell to Anne Murray to "Snowbird", written by Gene.)

MacLellan is noteworthy for the GB crowd due to his early days as one of the three members of the Consuls (the others being Robbie Robertson and Peter Deremigis) who upon meeting pianist Scott Cushnie left the Consuls to form the Suedes in far-off 1959. And it was of course Cushnie who was first hired by Hawkins a few months later and who subsequently convinced Ronnie that Robbie would be fine choice to replace departed bassist James Evans.

The review doesn't mention Robbie, the Suedes or the Consuls, and it wouldn't surprise me if the film doesn't either. It certainly should, as Gene, who wrote, sang and played (once Robbie joined) rhythm guitar, was or felt pushed out in favour of bassist Pete Traynor and singer Johnny Rhythm (nee Rutter). Couldn't have help his self-worth.

I'll note that the 1970 hit version of MacLellan's other big song, "Put Your Hand In The Hand", was sung and played quite Bandishly by Ocean, whose album also included a cover of "The Stones I Throw".


Entered at Thu Oct 11 18:21:46 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bobbie Gentry

After several days of Bobbie Gentry's box set, I'm enjoying it more and more. The 2nd disc "The delta Sweete" is a particular pleasure - in that Big Boss Man, Parchman Farm, The Seventh Son and Tobacco Road were all from my garage band days, but never like this. The bonus tracks are also worth having for a change.


Entered at Thu Oct 11 18:07:48 CEST 2018 from (129.97.124.28)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno
Web: My link

Subject: trusting one's vehicle to know the way ...

Norm: Your little story reminds me of "I Hope My Pony Knows The Way Back Home" - see link. Note that this is not the Tom Waits song, but a song written by local guitarist Jay Danley and sung by Julian Fauth. Great song, magnificent album called "Everybody Ought to Treat a Stranger Right". In my books it's hard to go wrong with a Blind Willie Johnson reference.


Entered at Thu Oct 11 17:14:09 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:c87c:5d2a:39db:6c31)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks for comments Bill M and Peter...am smiling. I have an image of Mel Gibson riding in circles on a white horse, sword in the air, face painted in blue and white emulsion, rallying the troops to 'Fight for breakfast'.

Last five played reflect recent postings in GB.

Paul Simon 'You're The One' - forgot about it - this album will receive more plays. 'Darling Lorraine' is really only song I know well.

Steely Dan 'Two Against Nature'. Never knew about this album until Toppermost, but I think it is brilliant. In addition to the clever lyrics, great production, and I could listen to the music alone.

John Martyn 'Bless The Weather' always playing it. Danny Thompson has a big influence and Richard Thompson plays on it.

Family 'Music In A Doll's House' Love this album - exciting and innovative, great musicianship, making full use of the instruments band members could play, for example the violin parts, but the production could be better, I think something to do with balance.

'The Best of Booker T and the MGs' - finally got it and now have got three important instrumentals in the history of British music.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Getting Old!

It's some times pathetic........scarey, and pretty funny. At the breakfast table this morning.

Susan, "I have to leave on the 15th to go down island." (Her and her sister and their girl friend are going to their spa and get massages.). Me, "I know ya told me". Susan "Well.....when is my appointment with Andy?" Me "Who is Andy? what in hell are you talking about?" Susan "For putting my winter tires on!"

Jesus Christ, the man's name is Adam, Susan, I just told you yesterday. Your tires are in my truck. I'm taking them over to the shop this morning and your appointment is tomorrow at one o'clock. Seeing as today is the eleventh your appointment is the 12th, 3 days before you leave.

Susan "Well I can't remember time!" You also can't remember where yer going you get lost in a gawd damn parking lot! Do you even remember the way to Port Hardy? Susan..........Well....my car does. "Stop talking Susan, my head is starting to hurt!


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

International Day Of The Girl!

Glad you are still posting Lisa. I have not heard from Joan in ages. We did chat while I was in NYC. I miss Serenity as well and all the other female posters as there is no balance in perspective and experiences anymore. Oh well. Happy Healthy International Day Of The Girl...All eye colours are equal. :-D


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Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: How I Won The War

I was saving the "How I Won The War" retrospective film review (linked) because I remember so many lines clearly. At the time it was advertised as a John Lennon film, but it wasn't really!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

May be old news but I could not scroll back almost two years. Hope this post is ok but I lost your email so here goes.
For JD...Congrats on your retirement this past summer?

John Donabie spent four decades in Canadian radio as a Toronto disc jockey, show host, intervewer and talk show host. It was great to see your daughter and grandchild here as well as I have met your son. We were in line to see Levon and Richard Bell at the Horseshoe. You sure interviewed many of the greats. We are fortunate to have you posting here with all of your experience and stories to share from the music biz. And yes you give good voice. :-D Please say hello to your partner. It was a pleasure to meet her outside of Hugh's Room. We were all there for Levon's Tribute.


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Bill M

I agree that Erma's is the better record by all rational measures, but there's something in the stumbling musicianship and give-it-a-whirl spirit in the Janis / Big Brother version that makes it more appealing to me.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Erma Franklin

As Erma released Piece of My Heart a year before Janis, It has always been my favourite. Also I think the definitive R&B version. It's interesting that Bert Berns wanted Van Morrison to record it; but he apparently declined.


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Peter V

Could be, Bill. I personally vastly prefer the Erma Franklin version. See John Simon on Janis practising screams.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I found in the olden days that Erma Franklin's "Piece Of My Heart" was raised and praised as an indirect criticism of the departed Janis. I'm not saying that was the case with John Simon, who seems likely to have heard all sorts of Brill Building productions like Erma on Shout in the course of his work in NY studios.


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Peter V

I didn't know ZZ Top were that big in the 70s - they're very much an 80s and 90s band in the UK (first hit was 1983). They broke through in the UK, but circa 73 to 76 I would have ignored them totally, much as I ignored The Allman Brothers and Lynrd Skynard (apart from "Brothers & Sisters"). I even found "Live at Filmore East" boring. But it makes me think of John Simon not having heard of Otis Redding - soul was way bigger here than hard rock. The early 70s to me is Marvin Gaye, Temptations, Stevie Wonder, Sly & The Family Stone etc, then Bob Marley and Jimmy Cliff. OR singer / songwriters and country rock.

I'm around The Electric Flag point in John Simon's book, but noted that he expressed admiration for Erma Franklin's "Piece of My Heart" - odd that he knew that, but not Otis Redding! He has some wry observations on "Cheap Thrills", an album with an iconic sleeve design, easily the best thing about it. It's one framed on my walls.


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Pat B

PV, as Barney Hoskyns and RR said--and as I recall of the July 76 outdoor date near Chicago--they weren't drawing that well on their own. ZZ Top meanwhile had huge albums in 73 and 75 (and a big radio hit with Tush) that kept them on the road starting in May of 76 through Dec of 77. Their stage setup for that tour was massive.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Otis, Tina & Ike

Peter thank you for responding. I guess my ears are still working; if your in agreement.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Ry Cooder version

The other great instrumental version.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Ike & Tina on TV

This is probably the original, then.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Everything's / I think / it's gonna work out fine/ all right

I purchased the Otis Rush on iTunes as soon as I’d heard a bit – beautiful playing, and it is indeed exactly the same song as It’s Gonna Work Out Fine by Ike & Tina Turner. A bit of Googling reveals that the Ike & Tina song was written by Rose Marie McCoy & Sylvia McKinney. McCoy was born in Arkansas in 1922, and wrote the song in 1961.

Otis Rush became known with “I Can’t Quit You” in 1956. He joined Vanguard Records in 1965, so if the recording is on Vanguard, it seems he was covering Ike and Tina’s million selling record on the Sue label. Who gets the writing credit, John D?

I loved the song and especially the Manfred Mann cover. A few years ago I saw Paul Jones duetting on it with P.P. Arnold.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

6:28....Robbie admits that FFFF hurt his feelings and then you will see a snippet of Levon in 1993....7:30 talking about Robbie with no FFFF insight.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band, Cate Brothers and ZZ Top Nashville, Tennessee State Fairgrounds, September 25, 1976. Hmmm...You then go to ZZ Top Concert Archives and tour is not listed.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Sound A Likes Otis Rush & Ike & Tina Turner

OK. Yesterday I am listening to Otis Rush; from that incredible Vanguard Blues Album called, Chicago The Blues Today Vol. 02. I'm listening to an instrumental called, "Everything's Going To Turn Out Alright." As I listen, I'm saying to myself, I've heard this before; but as a vocal. Eventually it hits me. "It's Going To Work Out Fine" by Ike and Tina Turner sounds exactly like Otis Rush's instrumental.

I'm hoping someone else can A-B these two pieces of music. I'm sure you'll agree they sound the same. Thanks for your time.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bill M is somewhere here with Robbie 2016.
"In celebration of his highly anticipated memoir Testimony, legendary songwriter and guitarist Robbie Robertson joins George Stroumboulopoulos for a unique onstage conversation about his life, music, and artistic influences both with The Band and as a solo artist, as well as his collaborations with award-winning musicians and filmmakers such as Ronnie Hawkins, Bob Dylan, and Martin Scorsese."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jan H. I found the magical door after all.
Here is Robbie, his good pal Heather Reisman and somewhere is brown eyed girl March 29, 2011.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

According setlist.fm there was also a show at the Paramount Theatre in Oakland on October 3.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Band opening for ZZ Top in 1976? It's hard to believe how their management mishandled the billing status stuff - most obviously where after the Before The Flood tour, the one with the most requests for tickets ever, they went out as support act to CSNY. By the time they get to Wembley a few months after Before The Flood, they were THIRD on the bill after CSNY and Joni Mitchell. OK, I know that Before The Flood was "BOB DYLAN & THE BAND" rather than "THE BAND" but the art of rock management is making sure your acts get the billing / status they deserve. And then pushing a bit more too.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Well, we all used to think that the Band's last show as the Band before TLW was the Syria Mosque on September 21, 1976. I've been communicating with Daryl Sanders who authored the great new book on the making of Blonde On Blonde, and he mentioned he saw the Band open for ZZ Top in Nashville on September 25. His info checks out on a ZZ Top website. Interesting tidbit.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I really enjoyed Reckless Daughter Portrait of Joni Mitchell...David Yaffe. I also couldn't put down Heaven and Hell My Life In The Eagles (1974-2001)...Don Felder. I was really disappointed that The Eagles did not want him in the band in 2013 when I finally was able to see them perform. I am now reading Born To Run...Bruce Springsteen.

Joni Mitchell’s Openhearted Heroism
She made the best music of her generation by falling in love, over and over, while defending her sense of self.

By Dan Chiasson

Last 5 while on my way to free yoga class.
Maggie May...Rod the Mod...I saw him perform during Across The Atlantic tour in 1979. All I remember is that I was dumped right after the Concert. He was the only one I knew who saw The Band with Dylan in 1974. Timing is everything, isn't it?
The Pan Within Live...The Waterboys...copied from brother's CD.
Pardon...Robert Cray...Everytime I hear this song I see myself playing blues guitar with many cool licks while Levon is playing drums. Yes I have a great imagination!
Let's Do It Again...The Staple Singers...I feel blessed that I saw all of them at Harbourfront for free! Two other times I saw Mavis solo. Love her as many do!
Caravan...Van and The Band!


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

"That Thin Wild Mercury Sound" by Daryl Sanders on the making of Blonde On Blonde is another must read. Tremendous insight into the NY and (especially) the Nashville sessions. A lot of must-read's lately.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Vote for Breakfast

I can see the Scottish people declining to vote for breakfast, if the choice is only porridge with salt on.

Now if the offer was avocado on sourdough with poached eggs, fresh tomato salsa and some pancetta they might get a "yes" vote.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: BlacKkKlansman

Review of Spike Lee's BlacKkKlansman linked. What a film! What a soundtrack too!


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Bill M

Dunc: A silly slip by Blackford, but Brexit does sound like a fast-acting high-fibre breakfast cereal.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Pissing with laughter

For Roger and Peter, others scroll past.

The portly, - I'll have a pudding - leader of the SNP - Ian Blackford, hypocritical in that he holds down second jobs, in addition to his role of MP, said at the SNP conference yesterday, after building up to a climax in his speech, 'The Scottish people did not vote for breakfast'...instead of Brexit.

Second time he has done it. Last time in the Commons a Tory replied, 'You haven't lost out on breakfast.'

Tears still rolling down my cheeks.

I nearly wrote 'Daniel Lorraine' in the previous post.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: In The Blue Light

I'm really enjoying the new Paul Simon. If I was being honest, of the ten songs on it, only one would have been in my Toppermost.

In addition to 'One Man's Ceiling', I really enjoy 'Rene and Georgette Magritte with Their Dog After The War' and think 'Darling Lorraine' is a really good song.

I think Paul is wanting us to relook at some of his work again. I got into 'Hearts and Bones' because of Peter's praise for 'Rene and Georgette', but more importantly because of Roger, if I remember correctly(Hi Roger), saying it was his favourite Paul Simon album. I thought let's complete the Paul Simon collection. I also loved a huge Rene Magritte exhibition in Edinburgh, a city I love. I really like this album.

But four songs on the album come from 'You're The One', which I bought to be complete, but I've neglected this album. I'm returning to this album and really enjoying it.

I think the production of this album is really good. But I'm not an expert on production. I was skating on thin ice when I made those 'knowledgeable' statements on production when arguing with Peter last week. When a producer gets to the best six takes when recording, I wouldn't have a clue which one to select, although I can recognise turkeys.

There are only ten tracks, which I like, because less is more. I wouldn't have liked a set of out takes added on at the end.

So I think this album is a beautiful and different production of songs Paul feels his public has neglected.

Than you, Peter,for your regular reviews.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For those who missed it the first time. Here is Robbie and Aaron Neville's cover of "Crazy Love" from the film Phenomenon.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Bill M...Gobble gobble. We never have turkey. My brother is a sommelier and gourmet cook so dinner is usually at his place. Music at his home was ethnic or dance....lol....At one point I was shocked whenI heard Sarah Mclaughlin. We do however have in common, Mink Deville, The Waterboys, Bob Marley. He is also the one who introduced me to Louuu and west coast US bands, etc.

Main article: Interracial marriage in the United States (Bob Marley always said that there is only one race...The human race.)
I was sloppy Bill M. It was in 1967 that ALL States honoured interracial marriages. This is why it was huge at Monterey to have an audience that was not only white or black. I had on VHS these concerts and as soon as Otis Redding got on stage he said to the audience, "This is the love crowd, right? We all love each other don't we?"

"U.S States, by the date of repeal of anti-miscegenation laws:
No laws passed
Repealed before 1887
Repealed between 1948 and 1967
Overturned on 12 June 1967

Interracial marriage in the United States has been fully legal in all U.S. states since the 1967 Supreme Court decision that deemed anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional, with many states choosing to legalize interracial marriage at much earlier dates."


Entered at Tue Oct 9 03:25:23 CEST 2018 from (76.66.110.162)

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Bill M

BEG: Thanks for mentioning the Neville / Robertson "Crazy Love". Never been a Neville fan, but Robbie's guitar is magical, as you. Two switch topics, I can't imagine that interracial marriage was illegal all across the US until the 1960s - though I can see it being against the law in certain places. Maybe Wikipedia's wrong, but it has Barack Obama's parents marrying in the US in 1961. Trump would no doubt have gone to town on that if it hadn't been perfectly legit.


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Peter V

Talking of Monterey Pop, John Simon says in the book that he'd never heard of Otis Redding until that point. Hard to believe. Otis was huge in Europe.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

haso... :-D

Last Five via songs copied from CDS and/or downloads.
I Heard It Through The Grapevine...Gladys Knight And The Pips...Saw them at Ontario Place for 7.00?
Crazy Love...Robbie and Aaron Neville...Special duo covering another fave writer Van the Man. Robbie's guitar work is otherworldly and Aaron's angelic voice never disappoints.
The American In Me...Steve Forbert...Always comforting voice. I told him so when I met him at Hugh's Room. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (Reggae Version Unknown Artist)...Maybe I taped this from the radio while in Montego Bay in Jamaica as we were staying with family of my friends.
San Francisco...Scott McKenzie...Monterey Pop Festival Sunday June 18/67. Apparently Otis and others at this Summer Of Love Concert were performing for a "mixed" audience. It wasn't even until around this time that it was legal to marry in the States if you were in an interracial relationship.

Happy Healthy Thanksgiving...Give Thanks And Praises


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Weekend listening

Two odd ones. I found them secondhand, and listened through on vinyl and copied them for two astrologer friends.

John Dankworth - Zodiac Variations

Nat Adderly, Nick Holmes, Cannonball Adderly - Soul Zodiac.

The second is largely portentous and pretentious, but the John Dankworth has some really good moments, though he insisted that for each named track, the soloist (all jazz greats) had to be the right star sign.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Rollin' Down The Road

On amazon print on demand, I'll relink Rolling Down The Road which Dunc so kindly mentioned. There are three sample stories on there. You can find it on amazon.com and amazon.co.uk - probably everywhere. As I said, the local printing for each area really brings down costs. If you get to your local amazon, you should be able to look inside which shows the Velum layout system. There are about ten styles you can choose from when you proof them up for amazon.


Entered at Mon Oct 8 11:27:14 CEST 2018 from (31.52.144.143)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Still a very rainy Scotland

Subject: Keeping Up

I have heard perhaps not listened to the following music over the weekend, through the vehicle of grandchildren - two teenagers and a five year old.

Magic - Rude'. I enjoy this song and really enjoy the brilliant guitar solo.

Calvin Harris, Dua Lipa 'One Kiss' - 378 million hits on Youtube. You can understand why Roses chocolates advertise before this song is played and why newspapers' advertising revenues are dowm.

My five year old grandson is constantly singing 'Shut Up and Dance with Me' by Walk The Moon. He flosses to it. Only 294 million hits on Youtube.

Music is alive and well.


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Dunc

Location: A very rainy Scotland

Danny Thompson plays a significant part in my musical life, JQ. Check out the Transatlantic Sessions on Youtube, if you are not familiar with them.

I had never heard of 'The Bunch' before. That's a must for me. The Dundee Horns, Sandy Denny and a host of others I like on the same album. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: John Simon via amazon

Because I use them too, I can tell from the paper and binding that the book is amazon print on demand. They now do this locally in a number of locations which reduces postage, plus amazon have their own system. As an author, you earn far more per copy from amazon than you would from a conventional publisher. I can buy also copies in bulk from amazon and sell them from my own site or via a bookstore, but actually it's not worth it. They can mail them (and package them) much more cheaply than I can, and the printing charge is the same either way. If you wanted to invest in over 1000 copies from a conventional printer, you'd get them cheaper per copy, but the amazon system really is the best of both worlds for the author with a small production run, especially if it's international in appeal.

I've done it both ways, and unless you want to spend lots of time standing in line at the post office, OR pay someone else 20% to warehouse and distribute and mail, amazon print on demand is the way to go. This year, one amazon print on demand book has been shortlisted for a major literary prize, so I'm told.

I don't know what software John used to submit it to amazon, but his paragraphing is a bit odd, with some indented for no reason. If you are planning on writing one yourself, fiction or non-fiction, there's a programme called Vellum which does the layout for you. Three of my seven books have been re-done using Vellum. It's much more elegant than using WORD files, which I did originally. You can either pay Vellum one book at a time, or buy unlimited use.


Entered at Mon Oct 8 07:36:31 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

I went to what I thought was his website and tried to order the book, but just kept being sent back to the home page when I tried to place the order. I ended up having to use Amazon, though I would rather have bought it directly from his site.

Anyway, sounds good!


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: J. Simon

Peter: is there any other info on your copy of John's memoir about imprint? Do we have any other choice other than A-zon? I e-mailed him from his website about the book and another question, but don't believe I've had any response. His website does appear to be quite inactive. Other than Garth writing, I've thought that J. Simon would be as interesting as anybody.

So nice to read your "bylines" again, Angelina.


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Posted by:

Pat B

btw, her name is Marilyn Crispell. The first vid I found of her on Youtube is a duo performance with Howard Johnson at the Woodstock Jazz Festival in the early 80's.


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Posted by:

Pat B

PV, yes I was struck by the eclectic experiences Simon had in the business. It certainly adds context to his work with the boys.

So I'm reading a book on a really outside, intellectual, free jazz musician I used to listen to a long time ago named Anthony Braxton. Really weird music. The book has a series of interviews he did along with a description of a two week English tour in 1985. The author also interviews the accompanying female pianist who is a Cecil Taylor acolyte (another outside player) and asks her where she lives. She says Woodstock NY. The author asks if she knows The Band. She says yes, she has played with Richard Manuel. Both the author and she love the Band. Strange but heartening.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Richard Thompson - Austin City Limits

This has been my favorite of RT’s since it came out in the aughts. He really doesn’t need a studio production to strut his stuff, with Danny Thompson & Michael Jerome, both brilliant here too.


Entered at Sun Oct 7 13:02:58 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: John Simon

Highly recommended … I haven't even got to The Band yet, but it's very enjoyable and insightful into music. I love the description of recording Broadway play soundtracks. Like George Martin, he had a thorough grounding in the "non-rock" side of recording first. I'd say a must-read. It looks self-published via amazon, as are my novels and he's holding a very low price for print copies (I know how much Amazon takes for the page length).

On production, the obituaries of Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick have been interesting too. Dunc mentioned his influence the other day.


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: If you knew Peggy Sue

The woman who inspired the song Peggy Sue has died at the age of 78.


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Whizz

When I was a teenager in the '70s here in Norway, central stimulants (amphetamine/phenmetrazine, or "high-school fat-girl diet pills" as Richard Manuel called them) were still available without prescription (or under the counter) at pharmacies in Southern Europe. This was when charter trips to Spain started taking off here in Scandinavia, so we had a steady inflow of the stuff, in particular the Spanish Bustaid pills that were immensely popular among speed-freaks. I've been told. This is the same stuff that fueled the Beatles in their early Hamburg days.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Pattie Boyd chats to Ronnie Wood about her photographs of The Beatles in India. They also talk about The Band, and going to The Last Waltz - where Ronnie was pulled from the audience to perform on stage for the finale."

Hi Dunc. I have been walking' about and listening to songs on my Nano in shuffle mode. I like being surprised as various genres pop up. Here are the last 5.

Rain Over Me Featuring Marc Anthony...Pitbull...Especially invigorating while taking a cab ride in Habana.
Stir It Up...Dianna King...Cool Runnings Soundtrack. Our Canadian John Candy was in film.
Cloudbusting...Kate Bush...Where are you?
I'm Scared...Canadian Burton Cummings...My mother enjoyed his greatest hits so I gave her the CD.
Wagon Wheel...Darius Rucker


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Posted by:

Jonathan Katz

Location: Columbia MD

Subject: Band reference

Sometimes you get surprised by a Band reference from what seems like out of nowhere. Two recent ones:

1. David Letterman's Netflix show with Jay-Z had an extended tangent on Shangri-La. [I may have posted this before.]

2. And just yesterday on the recent Netflix offering, "Norm Macdonald Has a Show" he interviewed Jane Fonda who talked about JRR and Levon. Seems she had a bit of a crush on Levon, but Robbie did not hold a candle to Tony Curtis. I nearly fell off my elliptical when this appeared on the teevee. Episode 5 has the content referred to above.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks Jed, Bill M and Glenn.

The Tom Petty collection looks interesting, Glenn, but I don't know him well. I bought a double cd of his work back in the day because of the Traveling Wilburys and I really enjoy it.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: between footballs

Subject: Richard Thompson

I've been playing the Richard Thompson Acoustic Classics a lot, JQ.

I have the early classic Fairport Convention albums, but followed Sandy Denny when she went solo and lost touch with Fairport and Richard. This could maybe be explained by a lot of great similar type Scottish bands at the time.

After a Summer discussion on Richard Thompson on here, Peter (thanks) kindly sent me examples of his work. I loved it.

At the same time I noticed that the leading acoustic guitarist, Tony McManus holds acoustic guitar teaching weekends with Richard Thompson.

So I bought 'Acoustic Classics' by Richard Thompson a couple of weeks back. I absolutely love this album.

The songs are well crafted, full of imagery and thought, manifesting in great lyrics. I like his singing, Peter, but I didn't realise how outstanding a guitar player he was. I think as JQ was alluding to, this is a brilliant guitar album.

So I strongly recommend this album. It's a must have.

Then a coincidence. There is a great song on the album, 'Beeswing' where the writer meets a wild girl in the 'steamie in Cauldrum Street' in the sixties. The steamie is a public washhouse. I thought surely not the public washhouse I know in my home town. I've been in the pub in Caldrum Street several times. I googled and it is this steamie the song refers too. Another London Scot using his knowledge of Scotland.

Brilliant album. Buy it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

On German autobahn service stations they used to have slot machines with "Stay awake" tablets for long distance drivers circa 1970. People said they were just high doses of glucose but I've eaten bars of chocolate to keep awake, and these were something else altogether. No wonder Germans drove so extremely fast.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Bill's Cowsills example reminds me of another aspect. Often it’s “joining the family business” and even successful bands are a “small’ business in number of people involved. I’m thinking of Rick Nelson, The Everly Brothers, Liza Minelli, Shuggie Otis, Roseanne Cash … even, I guess, Michael Jackson joined an ongoing business as did Little Jimmy Osmond. That’s a bit like the corner grocery store where you know they’ll employ their kids before anyone else and we think nothing of it. There’s only a job vacancy if the kids don’t want to do it.

In some ways kids can revitalize the business … Shuggie Otis gave a massive lift to the Johnny Otis Show when I saw them in the early 70s, as did Michael Jackson to his brothers. The last Glen Campbell tour was with his kids backing him, but then no one else could have given him the care and attention in his condition. Amy Helm I believe had a major role in Levon doing Dirt Farmer and Electric Dirt.

Then there’s just wonderful family combinations. Eliza Carthy and her mother, Norma Waterson, springs to mind. I’m not sure which direction the nepotism would be on that one.


Entered at Sat Oct 6 03:57:40 CEST 2018 from (76.66.110.162)

Posted by:

Bill M

You have to remember that nepotism can sometimes stab you in the back. Consider the Cowsill brothers - having a fine old time in a regular just-guys group, but then finding themselves saddled with their mother AND their little sister. Yeesh!


Entered at Fri Oct 5 23:48:31 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bennies and other addatives

You are right JQ. Benzadrine began in about the 1930's. Doctors started using then for different applications and one of the things they noticed right away is when patients were lethargic they used them to "perk them up".

I remember reading a book on Johnny Cash many years ago. Due to his work load he started in using them (just like truck drivers) to keep him awake. He got hooked into uppers so bad there were times when he needed sleep and had time he couldn't. He would go out in his jeep and just drive and drive, then get out and walk in the desert trying to stop buzzing.

It was long ago that long haul truckers started out with them. An example of how the truckers were is displayed in the movie "Hofa" with Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito. Nicholson showed one time how Danny DeVito had his fingers all burned and scarred from holding a cigarette between his fingers to wake himself up when he was falling asleep. Very bad stuff those little pills.

I had friends who got heavy into coke. It wasn't to stay awake they got themselves all jacked up. Then thought they were really playing great music and they were gawd awful! I hate all that shit.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 23:12:15 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bennie & The Jets

In the UK the "Mods" pills as in Quadrophenia were called "French blues" but I suspect they were the same as the "whites" Lowell George was writing about, which are the same as Elton John was also noting.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 22:33:52 CEST 2018 from (222.152.72.191)

Posted by:

Rod

I love seatrains version of willin . Maybe it doesn't reflect the mood of the lyrics but there awesome performances and a great groove


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Dunc

My comment was about musical nepotism not nepotism in general. You still may disagree but I felt the need to clarify. Thanks for your thoughts-I enjoyed reading your entire post.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 21:10:46 CEST 2018 from (98.6.21.229)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: Friday 5

I've been enjoying the Tom Petty: An American Treasure 4-cd set (nicely done box of alternate takes, live tracks, deep cuts); The Band: Islands; Gram Parsons: Anthology / Sacred Hearts & Fallen Angels (great, great stuff); Neil Young: Live at Massey Hall 1971 (a treat to hear these solo, acoustic versions); and Steve Winwood: Greatest Hits Live (disc 2).

Thanks to all for recent discussions. See - we can discuss and debate without getting nasty & personal! Keep it up, and keep it clean! Have a great weekend all.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for your note alluding to Seatrain drummer Larry Atamanuik being a Hawkins alumnus. As a matter of fack, if the computer hadn't eaten my first attempt to post the Bunch track, I would have pointed out the Hawks link last night. Plus I would have noted that in between, Larry was in the original lineup of Crowbar, who I'd mentioned the day before in relation to the group's cover of "Hey Baby". Not only that, for Dunc's edification I would have noted the title-wise similarity of my favourite Seatrain track, "Marblehead Messenger" to my favourite Mountain track, "Nantucket Sleighride".


Entered at Fri Oct 5 19:47:26 CEST 2018 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Whites

The whites where I was were small white pills with a scored cross; we also called them crossed whites. Some people used them continuously, others when they could find them or for a specific purpose like a long car trip or all night studying. I think they were Benzedrine and, unlike meth, I don’t believe they were home made. The arrival of cocaine in the early 70’s seemed to reduce the party popularity of whites. I think it was around the same time Valium replaced reds/barbiturates. Of course this is only what I’ve read..


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Welcome

Welcome Wynndixie. Experts on this site will willingly answer your questions.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 18:57:57 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My Friday five:

Chickasaw County Girl: Bobbie Gentry – Disc Six

Chickasaw County Girl: Bobbie Gentry – Disc Seven

Bigger – Sugarland

Blood Red Roses – Rod Stewart

Dancing Queen – Cher


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Posted by:

Peter V

I realize Teddy Thompson is not in Richard's league on guitar, but live he has that "propulsive acoustic rhythm guitar" knack that The Everlys and John Lennon had.I still think he benefits greatly from not having Richard's mannered accent, which irritates me. Of course, Richard has often sat in on guitar on his records.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 18:51:48 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Weed, whites and wine … Norm, I assumed whites were "the truckers friend" i.e. speed, so the cranked up version makes equal sense and is more likely to be what a long distance trucker would get by on than the "downer paced" second Little Feat version? As ever, it's often what you hear first, and for many, Seatrain was the first version they heard. The Johnny Darrell was too obscure and the (first) Little Feat version was later. Also a very nice bass guitar sound. As Bill will tell you, the drummer was another Ronnie Hawkins band member.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 17:51:30 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Seatrain - Willin

Peter I just gave that another listen and disliked it even more! That constant wah sound is impossible for me to listen to. I don't think those people even get what that song is. The tiredness of the road. Like Merle Haggard's "White Line Fever" (and that is the white line on the road) not what you villan's are thinking. That isn't a song that can be revved up like that.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 17:46:15 CEST 2018 from (76.66.111.67)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

I don't recall anyone talking about recording engineer Geoff Emerick's contributions to the sound of the Beatles on most of their classic albums, and now he has passed - see link.

FWiW, I've been mulling things over and concluded that "Across The Universe" is my favourite Beatles song.

Oh yes, can any of you think what Goose Creek Symphony number - a cover, it seems to me - would have received a lot of FM-radio play in the early '70s? I was thinking it might have been "Willin'", but it seems not.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 17:33:34 CEST 2018 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Teddy Thompson & recents

I’m a real fan of Teddy Thompson too. His singing range is limited but fine for the great songs he writes. PV - TT’s guitar chops are ok but rudimentary compared to his Pa. Dunc wrote he was listening to Richard’s Solo Acoustic album; I think if you give that a listen you’ll hear an incrediblely accomplished player.

Recents:

- The Essential Otis Rush

- Liam Clancy - The Dutchman - He’s such a great singer

- Rolling Stones - December’s Children - Fun nostalgia from a garden variety cover band, at that point at least.

- Commander Cody - Live in Austin 1974 - Heavy twang from Telecaster master Bill Kirchen

- Chris Smither - Train Home - He’s a good writer, clever too.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks, Peter. I agree with a lot of the last post, but nepotism is wrong. Did not know about the last part related to the theatre. I reread 'Nation Shall Speak Unto Nation' recently and nearly mentioned it in my post. Maybe one day we 'll get that drink.

For other GBers 'Rolling Down The Road' is an excellent book by Peter, and the short stories stand alone, if you haven't read his other books. It is an excellent collection of stories. My favourite story is 'The Record Collector', which deserves published in Mojo or some other related magazine. Brilliant. And when I read 'The Folk Singer', I always think of Davey Graham, although he wasn't a folk singer. Buy it GBers.

Thanks, Jed, but I can't agree. Before I retired, a part of my job was to interview candidates for posts in schools throughout my local authority area. It was imperative that the interviews were fair and my job to ensure they were fair.

Thanks BEG. Nice to hear from you. Playing your own compilations nowadays on the MP3?

Nice to hear from you, Bob F. As we say in Scotland, stop spitting the dummies out the pram and come back and post. I'm playing the excellent 'Willow Springs' just now. It is a great album with great songs, great guitar, great musicianship and isn't the production great. And I've been playing the Waterboys on YouTube. I was playing Roseann last week, still love the last EP. Buy it folks if you don't have it. I actually wondered if money was plentiful, what one of our wonderful producers would do with the tracks on the EP. Get back here. Look how Peter and I have had an argument without falling out (Twinkle in my eye).

Away for a nap. I've been pumping weights this morning and enjoying (?) our new music as it shouts out the speakers and am babysitting tonight. But my next post is going to be very positive.

Thanks fellow GBers. I enjoy your posts.



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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Uncovered "Covers"

Thanks for that Bill! I much enjoyed it. We seem to be on a trail of "Uncovered Covers". I'm sure many know Dan Fogelberg's beautiful song "The Leader of the Band." Well there is a youtube vid. of Johnathan McEuen of the Dirt Band, (he is playing mandolin) beside him his son John. Young John sings Leader of the Band. He does a pretty fine job. Got to be a great feeling for the old man. I know, I've stood with my son Craig playing beside me.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 14:42:55 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Swimmer

I've linked the latest in my series of retrospective views of late 60s movies. This time Burt Lancaster in "The Swimmer" from 1968. These old movies are getting a surprising number of views, hence the link. Do comment over there if you want.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 12:44:24 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: It's a family affair …

Dunc, we need to do this over a drink, but … See my BBC Interview story- it really was true until very recently, I agree. As I said, Mrs V found herself at a major drama audition “weekend” the only one with no connections. But that doesn’t mean those benefitting are not talented.

Nepotism isn’t an upper-middle class preserve– try getting a job as a Docker or Steel Worker via Trades Unions in the past (my uncles got jobs in the steel works because of their dad working there). That was true of Trades Unions in many countries. I would think Giles Martin said that with a self-deprecating smile on his face.

On the three I listed first, I’ve seen every Wainwright on stage at different times and Teddy Thompson. Rufus is a better singer and writer than either his dad or mum. Equally, Teddy Thompson has his dad’s guitar playing ability plus his mum’s singing ability … so he’s a better singer than Richard, and he’s a first rate songwriter too. Amy is a great singer and player. They’re all three as good as you get.

Actors I listed certainly got that first rung through connections, but British theatre is so incredibly competitive and so over-subscribed with talent, that the second rung has to be ability. If I look back at Royal Shakespeare or National Theatre reviews from five years ago, I won’t have seen 80% of the cast again since. If you’re as good as Phyllis Logan, who I saw just a few weeks ago in the play “Switzerland” - the second time I’ve seen her in two years – you will get there whatever.

Yes, we have a generation of privately-educated (even Etonian) stars in their thirties and forties, but if you look at the twenties age group, young white actors are disadvantaged because of heavy ethnic positive discrimination. Many theatres cast at Central London levels of balance (38% from ethnic groups) which are dramatically higher than the country as a whole. This is also true of drama schools admissions. Universities now ask for a lower admission grades from applicants from “poorer postcodes” to try and level the playing field.

With The Beatles, Dylan, and The Band, there’s also the huge matter of trust. Every time the Beatles archive tapes got dusted off, stuff leaked out. The same happened with the extended Basement Tapes at least twice, and listen to the Woodstock boot – that was not recorded in a field. That’s soundboard. I guess they need an extremely tight circle of trust, and that means “family” – and listening to Paul, I’m sure that circle of trust includes Giles Martin.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 12:45:30 CEST 2018 from (100.38.159.168)

Posted by:

Jed

Whether or not it’s nepotism is not the point. All that counts-is it good?! If it’s good then who does it is irrelevant.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Nepotism runs in families

I couldn't disagree with you more, Peter.

From a Guardian interview before Las Vegas opened, Giles Martin said, 'Nepotism should be alive and well in the music industry - and I'm trying to support it.' "You could argue that I've got the job because I'm George Martin's son, which is absolutely true, it really is. I'm being absolutely honest about it. But I'm proud of the job I've done."

I think the Seatrain version spoils a good song, not a great song. Seatrain are at best mediocre. I don't see how you can't see that. When does the Seatrain Las Vegas show open?

As for the list of artists you mention, who have famous fathers, I think many of them are just average...just, and wouldn't have got there if it wasn't for their fathers.

And I have no doubt that those actors got the breaks because of their parental connections. You are missing the glaring argument. The big debate in British acting is that because of austerity, actors are all coming from one class. How does a British working class actor get to the top now. The ones I have lived near are Brian Cox and Phyllis Logan...would they make it now?

John D - Sebastian getting the job because of his father is absolute nepotism. Glaring nepotism. I never bought it. So Giles Martin got the job because some of his old man's work rubbed off on him. Pathetic argument.

Now John, I don't know if you keep up with British broadcasting. One of the big radio jobs, Radio 2, is going to Zowie Ball. The present incumbent is paid 1.5 million pounds and has left because his salary has been disclosed. I find her tedious, but she got her start because her father was a mediocre children's presenter.

Class and nepotism are very much alive and well in the UK. We still have a section of the House of Lords, where Lords inherit their seats. Ridiculous.

The Beatles are about the Beatles, not George Martin, and certainly not Giles Martin.

Read the John Lennon letters.

The UK is a centre of excellence for record production from the sound engineering courses at universities to the end products. I listen to the music my seventeen year old granddaughters play in different genres and some of it is really excellent. There are many capable producers in the UK.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 09:44:59 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Last year my local record store bought in someone’s Allen Toussaint collection. All the albums, lots of producer sessions. My favourite find was Phew! By Claudia Lennear. Side one is rock, with Ry Cooder backing. Side two is soul with great Allen Toussaint songs and production. The song I finish my exercise session with most days is Shoo-Rah-Shoo-Rah, by Betty Wright (written and produced by Allen Toussaint). When Levon said how well Levon & The Hawks could play Lee Dorsey, that really meant meant Allen Toussaint.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 09:36:31 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Willin’ sits with The Weight and Proud Mary – if you hear a bar band do a reasonable version of any of them, you’re delighted. Any bar band that plays all three will go down well.

The Bunch – a great album. For Dunc, the Dundee Horns play on some tracks.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 06:11:20 CEST 2018 from (76.66.111.67)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

I get what Norm's saying about some of the version of "Willin'" - the singers seem too peppy in light of the lyrics. If lack of pep is the only criterion, then Gene Parsons and the Byrds win hands-down. And if you give it a handicap because it's an unfinished demo, then it might even win no matter what other criteria are thrown in. But overall I'm with Mrs V - Seatrain, and to tell you the truth, it's mainly because of the zip. For me, the Lowell George versions just drag and drag.

Norm: Apparently you don't care so much for the Ronstadt version for much the same reason I don't care for her cover of "When Will I Be Loved". Have you heard the stunning, and truly sad-sounding version by Sandy Denny and Linda about-to-be Thompson on the "Bunch" album? It's linked here.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 04:41:41 CEST 2018 from (108.36.226.127)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: nepotism or what's in a name...

Nicholas Cage nee Nicholas Coppola. Changed his name to avoid getting special treatment due to his famous uncle (and later cousin?).


Entered at Fri Oct 5 03:53:47 CEST 2018 from (2001:569:be12:5700:78aa:f027:9d7e:4b26)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Norm

What time on Monday? I'm in Cordova Bay right now. About an hour away.


Entered at Fri Oct 5 02:49:38 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bonk

What de hell are you doing now? Where are you? I am coming down to Chemainus on Monday for a little business. How far way are you?


Entered at Fri Oct 5 01:34:22 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bonk

Bonk you can find it on Amazon.ca I got the Kindle edition.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 23:47:47 CEST 2018 from (2604:6000:e903:ea00:80a:d941:b00d:daa5)

Posted by:

Joe Frey

I ordered mine from Amazon.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 23:43:31 CEST 2018 from (2001:569:be12:5700:78aa:f027:9d7e:4b26)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: John Simon

Where do I find John's book. I've looked everywhere.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs, NY

Subject: John Simon - MFBP

I wonder what John Simon thinks of the remix. I am ambivalent about it. Some tracks seem to benefit from it and others I don't see the point other than increased volume (67 year old ears may be the culprit here, though).

Just finished John Simon"s book and enjoyed it quite a bit. His honesty about only writing about what he remembers and not inventing a story line was quite refreshing to me.

No mention of Stage Fright, which surprised me a bit. As a big Gil Evans fan, I did enjoy his stories about him.

I thought he was very fair about his representation of the strengths of each member of The Band.

For those not familiar with his records, I commend to you his first album, Journey (my favorite) and Harmony Farm. Still in heavy rotation at my house.

One last comment: John Simon and Allen Toussaint were the two producers whose records they produced, I would buy just on their names alone. Very few clinkers in that lot.

joe


Entered at Thu Oct 4 23:03:35 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Levon could have had a whole separate career as an actor. Totally natural.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 20:24:11 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Speaking of talent, innate or inherited, Sissy Spacek recently gave an interview where she talked about her various roles. This is what she had to say about playing Loretta Lynn:

"Her daddy was played by Levon Helm, one of the great, great musicians. He had never acted before and he was unbelievable! It was just, he was stunning!"

I also remember reading somewhere that when she first saw Levon in character, Loretta Lynn burst into tears, he was so like her dad.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 19:04:52 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D: Absolutely agree on the superior quality of Sebastian's work on those discs. I'd also like to have heard him do MFBP based on that production. If you have the interest, stuff must rub off on you from your family - as well as musical talent does seem to run in the blood.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 18:48:02 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Agreeing with Peter

Dunc. In your comments about Giles Martin and nepotism. Does that mean that letting Sebastian Robertson produce discs 3-4 of The Academy of Music mean the same thing; because Robbie is his Dad?

I'll be honest when the news came out that Sebastian was producing disc 3-4 I thought that perhaps this was indeed nepotism; because I had never heard of Sebastian producing anything at all.

Then I bought the package. It is my belief that Sebastian's production and mixes of those two disc were far superior. Sebastian proved himself. I'd like to see him take on more Band Classic albums; as Giles is doing now. Sorry I think when you sit beside a music genius like George Martin, a little has to rub off. I've interviewed Giles twice and he is one intelligent and masterful producer. Just my opinion. I wish Sebastian had something to do with MFSB at 50. Clearmountain's is just a little too brittle & perfect for me. That said, time to read to John Simon's book.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 18:39:53 CEST 2018 from (100.38.159.168)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Beggars

I was surprised as well,Peter,thinking there might be bonus tracks or some sound alteration. Just more of the same-must have a great booklet!


Entered at Thu Oct 4 18:32:13 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Warning

I'm suddenly getting a warning; when opening this site that it is not secure. Anyone else getting this warning?


Entered at Thu Oct 4 17:36:44 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Is there no end?

Just received an ad for the "Beggar's Banquet" box set. Nothing much at all- original vinyl, plus a 12" one-sided single of Sympathy for the Devil and a Japanese flexi disc of Mick Jagger on the phone commenting. No temptation to buy it all all.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 17:32:37 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Willin'

I agree that the Johnny Darrell has the phrasing all over the place and is too "country." I love Seatrain's version with Richard Greene on violin. The second Little Feat version is obviously the ultimate (though Mrs V prefers Seatrain, which I think we bought first). I thought The Byrds version was a bit weak.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 17:23:34 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Gregg Allman & Jackson Browne

Thanks for that Jed. You are absolutely right. I had forgotten about that.

There is also a youtube vid of Jackson Browne with a group called "Lucius" beautiful dobro really haunting and sad and of course Jackson sings the song right. Just great! It is at a Linda Ronstad tribute.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 17:14:49 CEST 2018 from (107.77.173.4)

Posted by:

wynndixie

Location: Somewhere south

Hey y'all, have recently jumped on The Band-wagon (where have I been for the past fifty years?!?). Already appreciating the knowledge and civility here...so please forgive me if I ask questions about the boys that are probably as worn out as the grooves on your 'Brown' album


Entered at Thu Oct 4 16:21:26 CEST 2018 from (100.38.159.168)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Willin

Gregg Allman covers it sweetly on his final album,Southern Blood.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 16:00:01 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Willin

Those are both pretty awful versions of that song Peter. Linda Ronstad's isn't bad, Steve Earl does a cover, (not great). The arrangement to listen to is the Byrds. Gene Parsons sings that song great! The way it should be sung and arranged with the desperation and tiredness of the guy it's about. Those other covers are bouncy, jangley covers that do the song no justice.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 15:29:05 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Johnny Darrell

This was the first version released of "Willin'. According to YouTube, Clarence White played guitar.


Entered at Thu Oct 4 15:23:38 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Seatrain

Have a listen to "I'm Willin'" As we found out a few months ago, this was the second version released, and actually pre-dates the first of the two Little Feat versions, even though it's Lowell George's song and written while in the Mothers of Invention. The first version ever released was by Johnny Darrell on "California Stop-Over."


Entered at Thu Oct 4 15:13:42 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Nepotism? Or Inherited ability?

Dunc, what is nepotism, what is inherited ability, what is environment?

Look at the number of musicians who had musicians in the family. Elvis Costello’s dad in a dance band, Paul McCartney’s dad playing pub piano. Then Hank Williams Jnr and Hank Williams III. Or take Randy Newman’s family. Whitney Houston was the daughter of Cissy Houston as well as the cousin of Dionne and Dee Dee Warwick. Or siblings who can both play … Ray and Dave Davies, The Everlys, Aretha and Erma Franklin, Paul McCartney & Mike McGear, Mark and David Knopfler. The list could go on and on. I think musical ability is hereditary. It works with maths too – I was always terrible, but my father-in-law was brilliant, as was my daughter’s father-in-law. All my kids and grandkids have excelled at maths, and it’s definitely NOT from my side of the family. Add languages … families where the parents are bilingual or trilingual produce kids who are good at languages.

Then apart from genes, you grow up in a nurturing environment for music. Amy Helm, Rufus Wainwright (and family) and Teddy Thompson spring to mind where BOTH parents were singers. That has to rub off on you. Norah Jones? Jakob Dylan? Harper Simon? Zak Starkey? Sebastian Robertson? Julian Lennon? In some cases, I suspect the family background hampered rather than accelerated careers.

Move on to actors. Mrs V pointed out that when she went on a drama audition weekend age 18, she was the only one there who had no actors or directors in the family. So yes, that’s partly nepotism, but growing up in a theatrical family will gift confidence in public. If I think of theatre, I recall stellar performances from Freddie Fox (son of Edward), Samuel West (son of Timothy West and Prunella Scales), Joely Richardson (daughter of Tony Richardson & Vanessa Redgrave), Rory Kinnear (son of Roy Kinnear). We worked with Cathryn Harrison, daughter of Noel Harrison who was in turn the son of Rex Harrison. These are dynasties.

So yes, having a famous parent might help you onto the first rung of the ladder. As they used to say about classical Hollywood studios “The Son-in-law Also Rises.” But you won’t get beyond that first rung without genuine talent. The Beatles and EMI have no reason to gift a job to Giles Martin. They know lots of people (and their own relatives) they could favour instead. As the other two who saw “Love” added, he helped create an amazing musical experience, and went on to Sgt Pepper. I reckon the White Album will be good.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Still not convinced at all. I don't buy into that crap about George Martin being the fifth Beatle. Absolute rubbish. It's the Beatles who wrote the songs. He helped technically, but in my opinion he took too much credit...far too much.

As John said, Of course, "George Martin was a great help in translating our music technically when we needed it, but for the cameraman to take credit from the director is a bit too much. I'd like to hear what the producer of John Cage's 'Fontana Mix' would say about that... Don't be so paranoid, George, we still love you," ended the main part of the note, signed by John (and Yoko who was there)."

What about 'Seatrain'? Dreadful crap. Will we be getting a remastered release of their greatest hits?.

I saw several shows in Las Vegas. Every show was to the highest standard of performance. It's got to be.

And Giles Martin is not George Martin. He got the gig because of nepotism. Many producers would be capable of doing what he has done.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bob Fino

Hi Bob - Good to see you in again, thanks for that. Maybe reconsider, a bit of time under the belt can sometimes take the heat out of a controversy while still making your point. The head count is high quality but fewer in number these days. C’mon back mate -


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: PSB When Will This Dance End

Peter Stone Brown performing "When Will This Dance End" 9/30/18 at The Locks in Philadelphia.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Ovations

I meant to comment. You notice how most guys who play acoustic guitars on stage put those plugs in the holes in the guitar otherwise they feed back. That is not necessary with Ovations because of the placement of those pickups. My Adamma, like Glen Campbell always played have the small holes above and below the neck with a great sound. As well with the fiberglass back they stay in tune much better. I recall years ago the sound man at the JR Country Club in Vancouver told my brother I love that Ovation of Norm's on stage it comes out with a great sound and is very easy to EQ.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Tobias

Hi John. On some of the songs I notice he is playing a Tobias. However on others it's different. The Tobias has very long prominent horns and big black pickups. The one I'm talking about doesn't have horns. The lower part of the body at the neck just slopes away toward the tail and you can't see the pickups.

As a matter of fact Lindsey plays a guitar that looks to be the same make at one point and the same kind of blonde (sort of orange colour). On his guitar you can't notice pickups either. I'm wondering if they are something like my Ovations. The pickups are called "black dots" they are mounted in the bridge right under each string.


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Norm

Norm this will make it easier. I saw another bass that looked very much like the one I mentioned in earlier post; but here is a John McVie smorgasbord of basses.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Norm.

Norm it’s either a Tobias Classic or....sorry on iPad and will be back with another post.


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Posted by:

Norm

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: John McVie's bass

I'm tired of writing "Rockin Chair"! to hell with it.

I need a little help here! On the youtube video of Fleetwood Mac's "Dance" tour of '97, John McVie is playing this bass. (Particularly on the vid of "Say that you Love me"). I'm trying to see what kind of bass that is. You can't see any pickups on the front. He has great lines and great sound on that song. I've looked up all his bass instruments on line but can't find it.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Blood On The Tracks Project

"In 2004 David Spelman was hired to curate and produce The Blood On The Tracks Project, a concert celebrating the 30th anniversary of Bob Dylan's landmark album Blood On The Tracks. The sold-out event took place at New York City's Merkin Concert Hall and was broadcast live on WFUV and later as a two-hour radio special, syndicated to over fifty NPR affiliates.

A distinctive roster of singer-songwriters, bands and instrumentalists performed their own arrangements of the album’s ten songs, as well as instrumental interludes. Featured artists included Joan Osborne, Citizen Cope, Jesse Harris, Vernon Reid, Chocolate Genius, Toshi Reagon, Alex de Grassi, Ollabelle, Jeffrey Gaines, Brandon Ross, Richard Barone, Tony Visconti, Joel Harrison, and Buddy Cage.

Crabby and I met Buddy Cage's partner Leslie at the time before the show. I wish I could remember which one of the other artists she was really interested in seeing. It was maybe Vernon Reid or......lol.

Anyway, here is Ollabelle's performance that night of "You're A Big Girl Now". Amy Helm was great as always!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Music video by Bob Dylan performing If You See Her Say Hello (Take 1) (Lyric Video). (C) 2018 Columbia Records, a division of Sony Music Entertainment

I see a lot of people
As I make the rounds
And I hear her name here and there
As I go from town to town
And I've never gotten used to it
I've just learned to turn it off
Either I'm too sensitive
Or else I'm gettin' soft

Wallsend...Sorry I forgot to respond to your post last week. It took me a long time to finish reading Robbie's memoir. I was surprised as same thing happened with Dylan's Chronicles. I expected so much. I did however appreciate reading about his Jewish relatives and his storytelling here. I am looking forward to his stories from 1976 to present.

Dunc...Last five songs as I rarely listen to complete recordings these days.
Cruise (Remix featuring Nelly)...Florida Georgia Line
Girl Of The North Country...The Waterboys
Old Habits Die Hard...Dave Stewart and Mick Jagger
Soldier...Damien
Tupelo Honey/Why Must I Always Explain (Live 1991)...Van and Dylan


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Love

My wife and I have seen it twice at The Mirage. I couldn't believe how really, really magnificent it is. Even; after going a second time. It's a "must" if your ever going to Las Vegas. Giles Martin. Tops in my book! Also don't have to much to drink; before the show (and I mean water or anything) because there are no bathroom breaks. :-)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Blood On The Tracks

I keep getting amazon adverts for the 6 CD box set of Blood On The Tracks. I don't like the format as you get multiple versions of the same song one after the other. I AM interested in the multiple versions, but I'd also like someone to have selected the best take of each New York session and assembled it as one coherent album on one of the discs. Nine versions of You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go, one after the other, is Clinton Heylin / Obsessive area rather than something to sit and listen to.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Have a listen to John Lennon interviewed on George Martin in 1975, with Bob Harris (Linked). As the notes below say, it's one of John's fairer and more balanced comments. I think what he says is fair … they taught George Martin about rock and roll, but it was a two-way thing and he taught them a great deal too.

In the early 70s, my old friend, the late John Wetton, played bass guitar on many George Martin "pop" sessions, and said it was a privilege to be asked because you knew you'd be with the very best players … such as Clem Cattini on drums and Chris Spedding on guitar. He had nothing but praise for George Martin as a producer and as a person.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Never knew that Bill M. I still play the Cream classics. Just too much music.

Thanks Rockin' Chair. Never knew that you had a link to whaling. The book is still in print and I'll pick it up. Queue of books just now and I'm interested in John Simon's. Do I buy it, Pat? I enjoyed Robbie's book.

Spinning discs is obsolete, Rockin Chair. I was outside a club in Glasgow when a bus pulling a massive trailer from Germany pulled up. The DJ and his roadies moved some amount of gear into the club.

Not convinced. I always think about what John Lennon thought about George Martin.

New Paul Simon is on just now. I'm enjoying it. It's good when the original writer redoes songs. And relevant.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Viva Lost Wages

Las Vegas – we found it a good entry point to the western USA. I hate doing a 10 or 11 hour flight and getting straight in a rental car. In Las Vegas the airport’s right at the end of the strip, and you don’t need a car while you’re there … a very short taxi ride. Like Orlando (but unlike the big cities), the immigration guys are polite and “tourist friendly.” So we found you could book two or three nights cheaply, take in two Cirque du Soleil shows (O and Ka are also brilliant) and of course exposure to daylight and sun is the best way to get rid of jet lag – it resets the body clock. Lots of sun in Las Vegas. So then a short taxi ride back to the airport after a couple of nights sleep, and pick up a rental car – and you’re already out of town.

The first time, we stayed at the Venetian then newly opened. The check in guy said to Mrs V “I love your accent so much that I’m upgrading you to a suite.” She thanked him profusely, and he said, “I gotta hear that again! So I’m upgrading you again to a bigger suite!” We had two bathrooms, one either side of the bed (As I said in my review, Las Vegas caters for bed companions who don’t know each other well enough to share a bathroom) and a further toilet in the living room and about four TVs. She said she knew all those drama speech classes would come in useful one day.


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Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: Beatles' LOVE

I agree with PV about Giles and the LOVE show in Lost Wages. I've seen it twice! It has to be experienced to be believed; it's in the round, so there's action everywhere: scenes pop up from beneath, folks flying and climbing from up above, dancers, acrobats, and actors, footage projected on screens and walls, and speakers in every seat to deliver the best sound. And the music! My goodness, it's all glorious and exhilirating. Expensive, but worth it. I'd see it again if the opportunity presents itself. LOVE it!

And like PV, I've never spent a dime gambling. Just took in the show, had a nice meal, and split.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Giles Martin worked with Paul and Ringo on Love. I'm guessing this White Album remix is an assignment.

I finished the John Simon book which is required reading although I wish it were three times as long. His analysis of the fued is spot on as is his description (as he saw it) of the relation of each member to the whole. If I read it right, the songs recorded for BP in NY were done in one night which is mind-blowing. The arc of his career pre-Band really sets an interesting stage for his work with the group. He's also a very funny guy.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Beatles "Love"

Review of the "Love" Las Vegas show. Do not judge Giles Martin if you haven't see it!


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Lindsey Buckingham

Westcoaster- LB learned to play from John Stewart (Kingston Trio and solo). I don’t know if it was personal lessons. They both started on banjo, used the same electric guitar brand and that banjo finger/claw style to play. I’m a big fan too.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Carrying On

Thanks Bill. I listened to that Hans Staymer pretty different. The particular Fleetwood Mac performance, (I wish I had been there) was 1997, called "The Dance". When they play "Say that you love me", all five are lined up across the stage. Mic is playing an arrangement on his drums with no kick. Christine of course sings the song. (as well as being beautiful she is a dynamite singer). Lynsay's style on that banjo as well as picking solo plays that claw hammer style of a rythmn strum thru the verses that sounds great.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Rockin Banjo

Don't forget Bill. The original Eagles "Take It Easy" Bernie Leadon finished it with banjo.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'm comparing remix qualities, Bill. The two originals are chalk and cheese, opposite ends of the spectrum, though both stand among the best ever recordings.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Rockin C: For banjo on a rock song, you might look on youtube for "Dig A Hole" by the Hans Staymer Band. I love the harmonics especially. The work of Eddie Patterson.

Peter V: if you meant that Giles Martin did a better job producing a remastered classic than Bob Clearmountain did, then I'm inclined to believe you (though I've heard neither). But not if you mean that George M did a better job of producing the original than did John Simon.

Dunc: Glad you liked the Mountain song, and you wrer right in thinking in atypical of their output. It was sung by their bassist, Felix Pappalardi, who'd most famously produced Cream. When he left Mountain, his place was taken by a talented Scot named Jack Bruce. The new lineup, redubbed West, Bruce and Laing who did a couple of albums before becoming, I believe, a law firm. Corky Laing, by the way, is from Montreal, but is of Scottish ancestry - plus he had Levon helm write the forward to his autobiography / memoire.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Whaling & Spinning Discs

Dunc I don't know if you recall way back some where I mentioned my Great Grand Dad, (who was born in London), ran away to sea on a whaler at the age of twelve. He spent his younger years whaling. He became a journalist and author of 40 some books. One that may interest you is called "The Cruise of The Cachalot". I expect you know cachalot is the French word for a sperm whale. My youngest daughter has always been fascinated by his books and collects them. One very interesting one she has is called "Deep Sea Plunderings". Short stories that are true accounts of piracy.

Funny that you use the term "spinning discs". I wonder how long it has been since any DJs actually did that?


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Posted by:

John D

Just got the Kindle edition of the John Simon book. Haven't started read it yet. Sorry to read Pat that the MFBP chapter is short.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Couldn't agree more, Bill.

Played 'Nantucket Sleighride'. I don't know Mountain, but enjoyed the track. Not what I expected - very different from what I thought it would be. The whaling song I know is 'The Balaena', which I used to hear back in the days when folk was hip. I find it disappointing that a lot of these Scottish songs will be lost because folk is not so important now. It's all about DJs spinning discs now.

Thanks, Bill


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, I was just watching a video of Uncle John's Band as I read your post. It is a show from 1989. It is a great song but Jerry looks in bad shape. I don't know why they went for the two drummers. I just don't see the point of it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sugar Magnolia

Norm mentioned the way songs suddenly crop up in your head. I woke up in the night with Sugar Magnolia playing in my head. Went back to sleep, and in the morning I woke up and it started running again. You do think "Where did that come from?" I have heard "American Beauty" in the last two weeks … we were discussing "Ripple" here, and I put it on for a car journey. But that was several days ago.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Love the Martins

Bill, I thought you were dissing the famous guitars whose factory apparently appears in "The Weight." I have heard many people doing the same … Judy Collins explains her tuning time on stage as her love of the Martin sound in spite of their inability to hold tuning on a hot spotlit stage, and I spent a pleasant morning with a guitarist friend who uses a Martin for studio work, but was looking for an early 1960s Gibson acoustic for stage work because Martins required too much tuning between songs.

If you doubt the genius of the "Beatle" Martins (father and son) listen to "Love" - better still go and see the show in Las Vegas in surround sound. I took out the Sgt Pepper remixes to compare to MFBP remixes. There's no question as to the better producer.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Music......and.......MORE MUSIC!!!!!

Thanks Bill. I tried to find that on youtube, but couldn't.

I have been trying to come up with 5 gang, sorry. I have been listening to so much stuff it's hard.

Many times lately I am drawn to Fleetwood Mac. I think Lindsay Buckingham is so underrated. He is a terrific singer and his style on guitar and banjo are unequalled. In "Say That You Love Me" his banjo picking (using a banjo for a rock song) is very impressive.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: I agree that the importance of the Martins continues to be overstated.

A great 20th-century whaling song is "Nantucket Sleighride" by Mountain.

Rockin C: Crowbar's last (minor) hit was a cover of "Hey Baby" in the mid '70s. Lots of links to Hawkins and our guys.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hey Baby!

By the way Peter. It was Delbert McClinton playing the harp on that song with Bruce.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Got the John Simon book. Read the Big Pink chapter. Short but excellent. I'll wait until I get through Stage Fright to offer thoughts.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Fascinating on “Grace”, Dunc. Reviews mention it as an “old Irish rebel song” but it is modern pastiche from 1985 then, just as “Long Back Veil” is a pastiche Appalachian murder ballad … and more so, “The Patriot Game” by Dominic Behan is a pastiche early 20th century rebel song. I never realized. They used to say that there is no Irishman as Irish as a London Irishman (e.g. Martin McDonagh) and I guess Rod Stewart as a “London- Scot” has tended to an exaggerated version waving the tartan at all times. Whatever, he sings them up a storm on the new one.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Grace was only written in 1985 and is about a true tale related to the Easter Uprising of 1916. A little controversial up here as Celtic fans sing it at their matches, which is where Rod Stewart heard it. He plays too much to the Celtic crowd for me now - showbiz. I still play the white double collection of Rod Stewart and the Faces, which was released quite a few years ago.

Red Rose is the mark made by the harpooon when it pierces the whale. I've heard it a few times a long time ago. I come from the home of Scottish whaling and some of my forebears were whalers. Rod Stewart on The One Show said it was Ewan McColl who told him about it.

I'll not buy the new White album pack. It smells of nepotism and class to me. Every time the rich, privileged boy needs some money he uses Daddy and returns to the Beatles. Nepotism and class still present in this country. I think returning to the Beatles' work makes the Martins seem bigger than they are in the story.

On my record collecting day on Friday I bought

Steely Dan - Two Against Nature

Paul Simon - In The Blue Light

Richard Thompson - Acoustic Classics

Booker T and the MGs - Stax Classics.

Football day Saturday and babysitting yesterday, so listening today. Really pleased so far.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Garth & Maud show

A real interesting Garth & Maud show coming up, this time performing live soundtracks to films... Kingston, NY on October 28th. Try brownpapertickets dot com, type Garth's name and the event should come up.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Blood Red Roses

Only one listen through so far, but the new Rod Stewart, Blood Red Roses, is very good indeed. The title track is raucous Bellowhead style English folk! But there's a lot of variety. Farewell is very moving. Also the old Irish rebel song Grace.


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Posted by:

JQ

Web: My link

Subject: Brett Kavanaugh/Pulp Fiction

Oh dear...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Bruce Channel's "Hey Baby" was John Lennon's inspiration for the harmonica part in "Love Me Do."


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Crazy Chester

Hey John. Don't know if you found this or not. This radio hour was created by Andreas Werner, began fall of 2017. It is streaming on various sites. It sure is cool.

The emojie, I gues I did the colon, hyphon, back bracket and it must show up to you as an emojie. I don't know man! I'm too old and ignorant to figure any of this stuff out.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Crazy Chester Radio Hour

Already lovin' this RC. Listening to Billy Swan & Buzz Cason singing Buddy Holly. OO-Wee.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Crazy Chester Radio Hour

I was not aware of that my friend. Gonna look it up now. Hey how did you get to use a smiley face and when I try it says I've made some syntax error. Or was that Income Tax? Insert smiley face here.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Session Men : Muscle Shoals

I watch this youtube vid over and over. I can't make a pick between these guys and the Funk Brothers who I love to watch best.

The story Jimmy Johnson tells about the young kid Howie MacDonald coming to the back door and saying "I want to play guitar on a record". Jimmy is going to tell him to fuck off. Then for some reason he lets him in and wanted to emberass him but he says, "the kid could play". The kid ends up playing on Bob Seger's record "Old Time R&R" and the kid never played again. ...Too Funny.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Still seeking information

Yeah but John! What about the "Crazy Chester Radio Hour"? Yer a radio guy (and a good one). Yer supposed to tell me about that! :-)


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: White Album Partial Premier

Giles Martin hostel a partial premiere of the White Album, Friday at The Capitol Tower in L.A. on Friday.


Entered at Sun Sep 30 16:44:47 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: New White Album

Well. Amazon.ca is releasing a 3 CD version of the new White album. No pictures or books. Just music. Selling for the pre-oder price of $13.41; while the American version is about $23.55. I've ordered the three CD set; which includes 3 CD's of music including the Esher Demos. I must admit I have never seen a lower Canadian price; over an American price before. Hope it wasn't a typo.

Now I'm not trying to harp on this; but this would have been a great idea for MFSB at 50; just to release the CD + Blu-Ray. Just Sayin'.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bruce Channel

Of course Rockin'. Who can forget "Hey Baby?"


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: More of Bruce Channel

I was not aware, as some of you may be of "The Crazy Chester Radio Hour". Bruce Channel was on there not long ago. I'm not going to write it all here, some of you may already know how many stars this guy has written hit songs for.

I'm trying to see where and when the Crazy Chester Radio Hour started. Pretty interesting.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A Bit of Trivia

Just now as she did the dishes, Susie started dancing and singing this song. I caught on to it right away. Then she said, "who did that song"? I was stumped so I came in here.

Does anyone remember Bruce Channel? I'm thinking Bill M or Pat B might. He wrote this song in 1959. It was no 1 on the Bill Board in the US for 3 weeks, 1962. It went to no2 in the UK!.....OK?

Heeeeey hey hey baby...won't you be my girl. Bruce Used to play on the Louisiana Hay Ride. Then started to play rock & roll with Delbert McClinton. He wrote a few more songs that charted low.......so a one hit wonder. But back then......it was great.


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Posted by:

Sarah

Location: England

Subject: Moderator

Hello, can anyone tell me if Jan the Man still moderates on the site at all? The chat room has been taken over by morons posting porn links, it's so sad, used to be a great place to be.


Entered at Sat Sep 29 20:51:24 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Here, here Peter. I’m with you on that!


Entered at Sat Sep 29 20:14:50 CEST 2018 from (213.205.194.160)

Posted by:

Peter V

The aural evidence indicates that Giles Martin is a vastly more sympathetic and talented remix producer than Bob Clearmountain.


Entered at Sat Sep 29 15:54:26 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: On the inside

Thanks for that John. That is a wonderful clip to watch.


Entered at Sat Sep 29 14:57:13 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: The White Album

Giles Martin talks about working on the white album It's interesting he says you "can't make it sound too good and too hi-fi because it will ruin the spirit of the original white album." Interesting. I'm a big fan of Giles Martin.


Entered at Fri Sep 28 19:30:00 CEST 2018 from (2001:700:a00:ff62::d)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: Happy Birthday, Maud Hudson!

It's Sister Maud Hudson's birthday! We're celebrating by listening to the wonderful "Garth Largo", released 20 years ago as part of the Largo concept album. Beautifully arranged and played by maestro Garth Hudson, with Maud sprinkling her vocal magic all over the track.


Entered at Fri Sep 28 18:10:50 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:3db3:79ef:fb27:5a4e)

Posted by:

Pat B

So the John Simon book is Kindle-ready on October 1, and a tome on the making of Blonde On Blonde is released the next day. I'm finishing a book on the Troubles after spending a week on Bloody Sunday. I welcome the change.


Entered at Fri Sep 28 13:06:51 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My Friday Five:

The Hunter – Jennifer Warnes. My daughter found her old boxes of CDs and it was in there. I grabbed it. Brilliant album.

The Thomas Moore Project- Eleanor McEvoy – hauntingly beautiful Irish melodies, great modern treatment.

In The Blue Light- Paul Simon. You won’t regret it.

Surprise – Paul Simon, inspired by listening to the new one.

Hot Chocolate – Best of compilation. Pulled off the shelf at random, still good


Entered at Fri Sep 28 09:39:40 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:4c85:d316:21d6:69c0)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks, Bill M. Interesting - I nearly went to see them in concert once. I find time has take its toll on concerts. I was quite a regular concert goer, not to the extent of others here, but regular. But death and age has obviously taken its toll on artists. I miss regular concerts by John Martyn and Michael Marra for example. International artists are fewer on the ground. I think it’s sad that Artists like Joe Cocker, Lou Reed and Leonard Cohen have passed. /nBut I have widened the net and the last concert I saw was the two young excellent acoustic guitarists. And we are lucky to have the Celtic Connections musical festival in January. So not all bad. /nAnyway, I’m away record (cd) collecting today, and I have Paul Simon’s new album (trusting Peter’s review) and the first of Richard Thompson’s acoustic albums in my sights.

And Steely Dan on in the background.


Entered at Thu Sep 27 23:21:40 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Louisa Jane White might be British … earlier records are on the Philips label, and her MCA one looks like "British MCA" and some songs are produced by Arthur Greenslade. One LP in 1973 (rare), no CDs ever issued apparently, and just one track on a Northern Soul compilation, Speak The Truth, which I have. Anyone know any more?


Entered at Thu Sep 27 21:45:46 CEST 2018 from (129.97.124.77)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dunc: The link's shows the Scottish National Jazz Orchestra practicing, but the soundtrack is of them actually playing part of "Sweet Sister Suite" by jazz trumpeter and composer Kenny Wheeler. Before moving to the UK in the early '50s, Wheeler had a little quartet in hometown St Catharines, Ontario that included singer Gene Lees and pianist Art Talbot. Lees went on to considerable success as a jazz critic, biographer and lyricist, and Talbot went on to play on a 1962 session with Robbie Robertson on guitar. Remember us talking here about Michael Rosen, who in the '60s and early '70s was in a series of UK groups, including Eclection, the Dundee Horns and the Average White Band? He also hails from St Catharines, and moved to the UK initially to further his musical studies. Who knows, maybe even with Wheeler?


Entered at Thu Sep 27 19:07:19 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Louisa Jane White

I found a 1971 single by Louisa Jane White in a 50p box. It's a demo copy of Children / Speak The Truth. I just noticed the writer was Joe South and I thought Tony Joe … Louisa Jane … worth a try. It's excellent, and I looked online and her previous 45s were When The Battle Is Over (beloved of Levon Helm) and a cover of Caledonia Mission. I'd never heard of her.


Entered at Thu Sep 27 15:39:56 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Peter Stone Brown...I first "met" you because of Bob Marley. Very good connection for sure. When I shared Robbie's guitar work on Van's "Crazy Love" with Aaron Neville ; you shared it was the first time you heard and felt it. Big smiles here. I will be thinking of you on Saturday as you do it your way and perform your own songs. For now, here's Mavis Staples and "You Are Not Alone". Right after..."The Weight".


Entered at Thu Sep 27 01:05:10 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Strange..........

There is no explaining how it happens .........is there?

I was sitting down in music room watching a bit of tv. Just like some one dropped the needle on the turn table all of a sudden Stephen Bishop started singing in my head.

Down in Jamaica they lots of pretty women steal your money then they break your heart..........on and on.......go figure!


Entered at Wed Sep 26 21:52:50 CEST 2018 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: New Main Street Singers

Pat B - Was that the outfit from A Mighty Wind?


Entered at Wed Sep 26 21:11:39 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: New Love Generation

The thought that I had about these young folks band. There is certainly a lot of work put into these videos. They seem quite professionally done, so they must be doing quite well in Europe.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 20:56:56 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:ec44:1996:93bf:108a)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Now here's The Band of Love from PV's neighborhood.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 20:52:08 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:ec44:1996:93bf:108a)

Posted by:

Pat B

Reminds of The New Main Street Singers.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 18:43:30 CEST 2018 from (76.66.111.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for the additional info. Gotta admit that I'd be very pleased with myself if I'd managed to age as well as the singers have, apparently.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 18:10:13 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

OK, Bill, but 43 years earlier. The drummer for that 1970s James Last band was Barry Reeves of Blossom Toes. A great drummer.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 17:49:03 CEST 2018 from (76.66.111.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: German vocal covers

Here's another - not much in the way of credits, but sounds like the same people, though without the organ.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 16:30:34 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: New Generation

Yeah Peter. I don't think we can expect those young folks to feel the same feelings as those of us who went thru all the years. However they have beautiful voices and I think they treat those songs with respect. A couple of those girls doing their verses of My Back Pages have nice husky voices. The young fellow on top of the bus sort of reminds of a young Dylan. His singing of Tambourine Man is good.

Now all those beautiful smiles I would enjoy some afternoon delight with any one of them. I think you see excitement in those faces as they sing such famous songs.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 16:01:19 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Very good- they stick close to the original arrangements, don't they? By which I mean The Byrds version of My Back Pages. Which makes the guys strumming acoustic guitars look a bit spare. Lovely vocals.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 15:24:46 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: New Love

Peter check out their youtube, "My Back Pages" and California Dreamin" The Mamas and Popas. They do really well. If you notice they have a CD.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 14:15:10 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Vanity Fair

JQ: if you're into British costume drama, we're hooked on "Vanity Fair" at the moment. The Becky Sharp lead character is brilliant. Captain Dobbin is played by Johnny Flynn, whose band supported James Taylor and Paul Simon at Hyde Park this summer- he has two careers, actor and singer-songwriter.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 14:12:40 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Love The One You're With

This is them again. It's a very faithful arrangement. At first I thought it was karaoke, the way the organ comes in.

Other stuff - The White Album boxset remixed by George Martin. Due in November. £124. Phew! But Giles Martin, judging by Sgt Pepper will do a brilliant job. Also as 2 CDs if you don't want fifty odd alternate takes.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 14:06:49 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Afternoon Delight

Here you go, "Afternoon Delight." New Love Generation. Thanks, Norm. I hadn't heard of them. They do a very good Love The One You're With on YouTube. I always loved the original, which was the title track of a UK compilation of "Guilty Pleasures." I checked The Starland Vocal Band version on YouTube. It's better with the picture off- too much smiling.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 05:22:36 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The New Love Generation

Peter or any of you guys across the pond. Have you seen this band, "The New Love Generation"? Well shit, I think they are from Germany, haven't quite figured it out yet. It looks like they drove right out of Woodstock.

In a VW Bus and dressed just like it. Four beautiful girls and three guys. They do Dylan's songs like you can't believe. They do "Afternoon Delight" with a reggae feel. You need to watch them. These are very young folks, late twenties, early thirties.......unbelievable!


Entered at Wed Sep 26 02:03:39 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Marshall Crenshaw

I been sitting here for an hour after I got my day pretty done listening to Marshall Crenshaw. In particular his cover of "My Back pages". Other than that Bob Dylan 30th anniversary where everyone was on stage and Neil Young did that blistering solo, I'm convinced Marshall does the best cover of this song.

Some of the musical arrangement is a little weak but his vocals are perfect. It is odd that he wasn't heard of more. He's quite a guitar picker and he played John Lennon, and he played Buddy Holly and he did very well.


Entered at Wed Sep 26 01:47:56 CEST 2018 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Bodyguard and a new record out

Thanks for that recommendation Peter. Our English network here - Acorn - is normally a bit behind on new programs. We blew right through Vera and we’ve been mooching around Foyle. I’ll be on the lookout for The Bodyguard.

I mentioned a few days ago Mike Judge’s latest: Tales From the Tourbus, which I totally recommend and can’t seem to get unstuck from. It has one episode about Jerry Lee Lewis and today on NPR’s Fresh Air she interviewed Linda Gail Lewis and Robbie Fulks; they got a new duet album out now which sounds dam good. She is definitely cut from the same cloth as her older brother (9 husbands!) and he’s a brilliant songwriter.


Entered at Tue Sep 25 19:40:56 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Rockin' Chair

Don't remember you ever making us feel bad. Always love your posts sir!


Entered at Tue Sep 25 17:41:37 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:bc2b:5514:bd53:7d9b)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Steely Dan

Really sorry to hear about the ending of your story, Rockin Chair. A poignant, moving story. I was thinking of you, the day before yesterday. We hired a small cruiser and eight of the family sailed one of Scotland's most beautiful lochs. I know your job must have been hellish at times.

Anyway on to a happier post. I remember several years ago we picked our eight favourite bands. I would now have to find room for Steely Dan. Their music has grown and grown on me. I was looking at Youtube at clips of Steely Dan and came across probably the best covers band I have ever seen - The Steely Damned and The Steely Damned 2 - brilliant guitarist, great backing singers, great bass and great horns - out of San Diego. .

Then I came across an ensemble from Berkley College playing 'My Old School' - brilliant musicianship


Entered at Tue Sep 25 15:58:15 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: '79 & Midsomer Murders

Thinking about way back then I realized it was 1979 when I ran into Ronnie and we went and saw The Last Waltz as it first played in Vancouver. For the life of me I can't remember which theater it was tho'. I never did know that Vancouver area well.

Dunc I recall a while back some how some one started a thread about meeting old flames and I talked about Ronnie. I'm afraid without realizing it I was some what coarse I guess. I made John D and his wife feel bad. After talking about her I guess just in my own thinking I made the comment how Ronnie was taken by cancer some years ago. When it happened I was up this island and Ronnie lived down on the Sechelt Peninsula where we had spent our teen summers together. My brother called me to tell me when she passed. That is a regret I suppose some of us end up having, not being there to say good bye.

I suppose if I had been a guy to have a job at home and be there all the time I'd of had a different life. Having worked in logging camps and at sea most my life you miss a lot of things.

Susan is a great fan of Midsomer Murders and got me watching them with her. As well I became a great fan of "Phryne Fisher Murder Mysteries". The young good looking gal "Essie Davis" who plays the part of Phryne is from Hobart, Tasmania where I was last year visiting my friend Peter Kennedy who lives there.


Entered at Tue Sep 25 15:44:59 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, one of the eight Bobbie Gentry is the duet album with Glen Campbell.


Entered at Tue Sep 25 14:05:29 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Midsomer Murders

Peter just finally watched season 19 of Midsomer Murders. Even with change of cast we watched it right through. Binged watched really; seeing that the series started back in '97.

Fortunately we find there will be a season 20; because the ending of season 19; didn't seem like a final ending. John Nettles sure is a fine actor; as well as Jason Hughes; who if you close your eyes it sounds like Ringo speaking.


Entered at Tue Sep 25 10:54:18 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:29af:1fdd:89d2:d533)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: The Highlands

Subject: Moving post

I found your post moving Rockin' Chair.

Is Ronnie OK? I hope she did ok.


Entered at Tue Sep 25 10:19:09 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

JQ: Have you seen The Bodyguard? Six part TV serial from the BBC. It ended on Sunday and is apparently the “most watched TV drama of the last decade.” It’s about an Iraq / Afghan War vet now in the police, protecting a government minister, and I’m sure one line is “I don’t want a medal, I want an apology.” Lots of comments in the media including “I don’t want a medal I want to see Tony Blair in front of the International War Crimes Tribunal."


Entered at Tue Sep 25 06:51:18 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: War Vets

Well JQ, I'm not sure after reading my post again how you got into thinking vets over that. I never mentioned that. I think I understand your feelings because I have a lot of friends who are vets. One of them was a green baret. Most of them that I know just say, they did what they had to do. Some of them are not proud of it. Some of them just want to forget it ever happened.

Now a day there is a lot more understanding of post traumatic stress disorder than there was then. It is a very touchy subject amoung veterans. I'm not sure how to handle all that because there is so many different feelings. I know I never meant to bring this into my post.

Very often I play a lot of John Fogerty's music, a guy who has a loy of deep feelings about what went down. For those people who had to live it and some still have to live with it, all you can do is try to understand.

Even some of the "objectors" who came up here. I know many. You can't judge them. Just try to understand. If I opened a sore wound, I apologize.


Entered at Tue Sep 25 05:48:18 CEST 2018 from (2600:387:6:806::7f)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Viet Nam and Iraq vets

Westcoaster brings this up so, as a Viet Nam vet, I feel free to opine. It’s become a commonplace expectation here these days to thanks vets for their service. Which I’m totally fine with, except that in the case of vets from Viet Nam and Iraq, it should also come with an apology. And this talk of them fighting for our freedom should just not be said at all in reference to those 2 fucking capers.


Entered at Tue Sep 25 04:55:17 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Lookin Back........Then and Now

Tonight as I made my supper and sat down and ate it, I watched "The Last Waltz" on TV. We have an open area house, (the kitchen, dining room and living room are one big room. We have, (I forget 48"? TV) in the living room. Pretty good sound, (I got rid of my home theater system). Susan's hearing problem just drove me crazy. I got rid of my big sound systems out of frustration I guess.

Anyway, it was "PLAYED LOUD" Susan is in Naniamo visiting her sister. As I watched this for the (I don't know how many times) I had some sobering thoughts.

I'm not sure when I first saw it. I believe it was late '77, or early '78. I had just got done with a marriage. I have before mentioned my girl "Ronnie" who was mine from age 15. (In hind sight I should never have run off in my life without her) after many years and changing partners, (both of us) one night in one of our local bars when I ran across her one night, she looked up at me and said, "I've loved you all my life" I stood there kind of stunned and she just walked away.

Getting back to The Last Waltz, at that time all those years ago Ronnie said take my to see this movie, we've got to see it. Now what I'm wondering is if any of you folks, like me are looking at this project thru' different eyes, you know, (I was so much older then I'm younger than that now.) I think I understand things more now and see them thru different eyes.

From the beginning when Martin is explaining how the making evolved from it being something, to becoming "SOMETHING". I recall not long ago a silly disagreement here caused Jan to make the Last Waltz remarks from Robbie about a bar in Texas. "There was only three people in the place, and a one armed go-go dancer. A fight broke out and there wasn't enough people there to get mad."

This made me think. This is Jan's "Band" this place I'm sure. As he has watched the many really silly arguments and comments over years, from Robbie's scarf, guitar, his microphone was shut off to a million silly comments about any thing you can think of.

Why was Neil Diamond there? So many people here shouted their choices of who should have been. As I watch Neil Diamond sing "Dry Your Eyes" well thru these eyes now, and in those healing years after the Vietnam war I think now some things you look at start to make more sense. As I write this Bob Dylan is singing, "Forever Young". So many of those service men are forever young in our minds because they never got the chance to get old. Just like Buddy Holly is "Forever Young" to all of us.

Maybe it's just me but I enjoyed it so much all those years ago, but I'm getting a lot more out of it now. In the end I still think of Ronnie. She was drop dead gorgeous, (I think at 18 I was scared of her). She could sing beautifully in 3 languages and play the guitar. T spent some of my best nights singing with that girl.

I think when you watch the "Last Waltz" again after leaving it for a few years, you find some more insight.....or maybe I just forgot. Any way I know....I shall be released.


Entered at Tue Sep 25 00:47:53 CEST 2018 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: I Shall Be Released redux

I know there’s a hoax with this new version but I really like it (I think Bill M said the same thing?). There’s a couple notes here on Bobbi Gentry and JL Lewis and I’d love to hear some in that genre remixed to take down some of the awful strings and backing vocals arrangements, etc. The producer Billy Sherrill was at the forefront of a lot of the country schlock that was so overproduced, particularly his stuff with George Jones - wouldn’t it be great to hear George’s singing with just an acoustic guitar in the background? In light of I Shall Be Released it seems technically feasible to me. Would an old quad rig be able for a bit of that at home? I think Chet Atkins, otherwise such a very gifted musician, was the main man in Nashville at that time and really pushed that commercial aspect, along with the standards for content and appearance at the Opry. On the other hand would there ever have been the great stuff from the Nashville Outlaw movement without its reaction to Chet’s prohibitions?


Entered at Mon Sep 24 23:27:23 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I forgot to ask if the Gentry package includes her album with Glen Campbell. The curse of a woman signed to Capitol at the time - the wind went out of the sails of Anne Murray's career for awhile when she was stampeded into one.


Entered at Mon Sep 24 22:47:56 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Vinyl find

Today … Jerry Lee Lewis "Live at the Star Club Hamburg" 1964 backed by The Nashville Teens, often lauded as the best live album of the era. I saw The Nashville Teens twice live and they were phenomenal, but I'm not sure what the two lead vocalists did while backing Jerry Lee.


Entered at Mon Sep 24 19:37:26 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Bobbie Gentry was £63 here … eight albums, nice book.


Entered at Mon Sep 24 16:25:31 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bobbie Gentry

As they say, each to his own. Well Peter, for me I think your Bobbie Gentry Box Set would be overkill for me. I would be happy with "Southern Gothic"; which I think woud give me everything I would want. $150.00 for Bobbie Gentry is just a little too cost prohibitive for me.


Entered at Mon Sep 24 15:47:46 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I always liked "Fancy" in particular, and it was among the first handful of 45s that I owned - though I can't see placing it anywhere near the Americana top ten. Way better than its thematic cousins, "Hickory Holler's Tramp" and "Patches", though. I always wondered if it was Fancy or one of here friends who turned up in the back of Harry Chapin's cab a couple years later. In retrospect, however, "Ode To Billy Joe" would be up there with the gods - some of our guys' best, "Polk Salad Annie", "Proud Mary", etc. Tying Ode and Polk together, I remember CHUM DJ J Michael Wilson in 1970 speaking in Tony Joe White dialect over the instrumental intro to "Polk Salad Annie" grunting out, "Way down south there's a plant that grows. Real name is skunk cabbage but we all call it 'Eau de Billy Joe'". I think of it almost every time I hear either of the songs.


Entered at Mon Sep 24 15:19:21 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Standing Stout!

I'm ashamed of all-a-yuz! Boys bragging about their drinkin'! tsk-tsk-tsk


Entered at Mon Sep 24 09:56:40 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Clothes Line Sagas …

Just got the Bobbie Gentry boxed set, "The Girl From Chickasaw Country." All her Capitol albums, plus 75 unreleased tracks … bonus tracks, alternates and a whole CD of "Live at the BBC". I bought the Record Store Day vinyl version, which is only half of it. Every album has an equal number of bonus tracks. AND its cheaper than MFBP. I maintain that Ode to Billie Joe and Fancy equal anything anyone has done in Americana.


Entered at Mon Sep 24 09:49:09 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Joe, will you get to the North? The guided “political tour” of Belfast is unmissable. They use London black cabs, and take 4 or 5 people. It’s a fixed fee. They take you to see the murals and all the bits you’d never see. Half a day. Add the Titanic museum, and the Cathedral Quarter is great for restaurants etc. The drive from Belfast to the Giants Causeway is stunning if you hug the coast right round (rather than taking the main road across).

It took me decades to realize that beer gave me an instant headache but wine didn’t. BUT one of the few beers I can drink is draught Guinness, but there are now craft stouts in Ireland … I think Guinness have introduced some craft versions too. One we loved so much that we buy it online is bottled: Belfast Black.


Entered at Mon Sep 24 06:48:59 CEST 2018 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Guinness draft

And draft versus bottles or cans is the best. The original bottled Guinness is a different drink altogether. I know of what I speak: Guinness draft is low calorie, low alcohol and best served cold. Plus it’s nitroginated so there’s no Co2 gas to fill you up. The Irish knew what they were doing in creating a drink that one can go with all night and keep just a comfortable buzz; they call it sessionsble. Granted it’s an aquired taste, like most fine things, including music, but once you’ve grown to enjoy it you’ve got a pal for life!


Entered at Mon Sep 24 04:44:13 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Joe J: Have fun. Maybe it's a good thing you've pretty much forgotten how to drive a standard, because you won't be stuck in your ways when they insist that you to use your left to shift with.

JQ: I had my first Guinness in a drab little pub in a drab little village on the Dingle Peninsula in 1987. What struck me first was how long it took - waiting for the head to die down and for the bartender to get back to topping it up and give it to me. Felt like a beer milkshake going in and a lump of lead on the floor of my stomach once it had settled in. I don't recall ordering a second, though we were staying above the pub so the commute wouldn't have been too dangerous.


Entered at Sun Sep 23 20:46:48 CEST 2018 from (2600:387:6:806::52)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Driving in Ireland

My first time in I was so excited about getting a proper Guinness that I pounded 3 at the airport. Then it was stick shift, wrong side driving and the topper was immediately heading into a roundabout!! Very sobering -


Entered at Sun Sep 23 20:24:21 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Don't worry, Joe J. They all drive in the middle.


Entered at Sun Sep 23 20:17:45 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Talkin' 'Bout My Generation

Have a safe and enjoyable trip Joe. I'm seriously thinking of coming by your way early next summer. Seeing the rock on the other side has always been on my bucket list.


Entered at Sun Sep 23 19:52:37 CEST 2018 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

So sad to hear about Peter Stone Brown. I've always treasured his insights especially re Dylan and the Band.

We're now of that generation. I've been a pallbearer twice this summer. I used my allotted time at our last lodge meeting to speak about early detection of prostate cancer.

On the other hand, I've never heard as much live music in years. I've been booking acts for our summer concert series and have been blown away by the YOUNG talent available. Check out youtube videos by Rosemary Lawton and Newfoundland (latter actually from Ireland). I'm going to the Emerald Isle next week and am about to renew some old acquaintances, make new ones and totally immerse myself in Celtic music for a bit. I trust my other half will get me home in one piece at the end of the day.

I've arranged for a rental with manual transmission; could take some getting used to; I've not driven a 'standard' in years. Driving in the 'wrong' lane and those narrow roads will have more issues I'm sure but I'm all in.



Entered at Sun Sep 23 14:13:44 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Chas Hodges

RIP Chas Hodges of Chas & Dave … he’s portrayed in the Joe Meek biopic “Telstar” of course. He played bass guitar behind every visiting American rock & roll star, then in The Outlaws, Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers and Head, Hands & Feet. He switched to piano once he co-founded Chas & Dave. As Wiki points out, he always claimed he learned piano from watching Jerry Lee Lewis while he was backing him. A great musician and a great guy.


Entered at Sat Sep 22 21:00:54 CEST 2018 from (79.75.173.106)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Mixcloud

Good Podcast - Six Strings And A Pulse -Episode 24 with legendary rock writer Barney Hoskyns.

R.I.P. Chas Hodges


Entered at Sat Sep 22 04:59:53 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Friday Five

Joan Osborne with the Funk Brothers - What becomes of the broken hearted

Bryan Adams - Heaven - if you have ever seen a youtube vid, I think 1997, Bryan goes to start singing his song and is stopped. The entire crowd 50,000 + sing the first verse for him. The look on his face is priceless.

Nic Jones - Penquin Eggs- nothing needed to say.

Little Feat - Willin - such nostalgia

Bob Dylan - Knockin on Heavens Door - thoughts of PSB - such frustration when these things happen.

Jed if you are about, have spent a lot of time with "Ripples". Long before youtube, and now to see how many people sing it including school choirs. Just amazing and wonderful. Still I so much enjoy our "Playing For Change" folks.


Entered at Fri Sep 21 22:49:26 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

I'm also so sorry to hear about PSB. I've always enjoyed his articles and learned a lot from them. Besides being an excellent writer, he's also always been the final word on any point of dispute - just a fountain of knowledge.


Entered at Fri Sep 21 17:46:21 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Curtain Call

It chokes you up to read the article about Peter Stone Brown suffering that dreaded disease. We lose so many friends to that gawd damn disease. Not having known Peter except by this community I so much enjoyed the article of a peak into his life.

What I can always remember about the man, if any one of us posted something that with his knowledge was wrong he was quick to put it right and always with class.

From the posts here PSB, you can leave us knowing how much you were loved and respected. Praying that the pain is little and you have the people you love and who love you close by.

Bill sorry I didn't get back to you re: Evan Kemp. I been running between boats pretty busy. Then got home and my computer wouldn't get me on line. I considered using a sledge hammer, but then it just happened. I don't know. I did listen to your links. Funny thing, I don't remember any of those guys. I knew King Gannom of course from the old country TV shows. It is odd because from when I was 6 years old and first saw Wilf Carter I remember all his band. As I said years later I played music with Toller O'Shea.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Sorry, Peter Stone Brown. I really enjoy your posts. Always. Thinking of you.

Nice you popped in Bob F. I enjoyed your posts. Come back. Life is too short.

I understand why you are a completist, John. It's your career. I always liked listening to thoughtful radio musicologists on the radio across this side of the pond. They explained the music, introduced you to music, informed you and entertained you. All done in an effortless way - a real skill. The big radio shows are different now, not bad, but different, hosted by some of the highest paid entertainers in the media. Music is used as a means of separating features on a radio show now. Always enjoyed your posts too...and your radio shows, John D.

Thanks. It's been a great GB. I've learned so much. Solid air playing in the background.

Nice to hear from you Bassmanlee.

Away to the Highlands.


Entered at Fri Sep 21 02:40:44 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Peter Stone Brown

Very sad news about PSB. Best wishes, and hats off, to the man. As Peter V and Pat B have noted, all of us here (and at the Dylan sites, and likely others) have had our lives enriched by his knowledge and willingness to share it via his generous posts.


Entered at Fri Sep 21 02:36:55 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: PSB

My sincere best wishes go out to Peter. I’ve always enjoyed his insightful writings. It was very interesting to read the article that Bob F put out there. Thank you Bob. Hope you and the family are doing well.


Entered at Fri Sep 21 02:10:34 CEST 2018 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

The BOTT NY sessions (with Peter Stone Brown's brother, Tony, on bass) are absolutely crucial. Idiot Wind with Paul Griffin on organ is truly one of the three great Dylan moments in history.

Peter Stone Brown. Now that is one sad piece of news. I just reread our communications over the years. I learned a lot and I laughed a lot. Dylan fans and Band fans are far better off because of him. That, my friends, is called "making a mark."


Entered at Fri Sep 21 00:51:21 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bootleg 14 Blood on the Tracks

Blood on The tracks is one of the best Dylan albums, but in my Top 10 rather than my Top 5. The 6 cd set with multiple versions of every song isn’t very inviting though. If You See her Say Hello is a masterpiece, but how much do you want to hear several failed attempts to get it right? Yes, completism sees this stuff piling up. There is better new music out there.


Entered at Fri Sep 21 00:16:55 CEST 2018 from (70.30.45.165)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: PSB

So sorry to hear the news about Peter Stone Brown. Thanks for that link, Bob F. Good to hear that you’re still “out there.”


Entered at Fri Sep 21 00:11:59 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Absolutely. PSB is one of the best writers on all this stuff I've ever encountered. All my very best wishes to him.


Entered at Thu Sep 20 23:46:03 CEST 2018 from (24.44.152.49)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: PSB Health Problems

Long time Guestbook contributor, noted Dylanoligist and one hell of a singer-songwriter, Peter Stone Brown (PSB) is batteling very serious health problems. See linked article from Philadelphia Inquirer.

Peter, I've enjoyed and respected everything you ever wrote. Wishing you all the best.


Entered at Thu Sep 20 23:19:18 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

B.Lee: I love Hearts & Bones at the same level as Graceland. Over many years, Rene & Georgette Magritte has been on my premium night time playlist. I doubt a week has gone by without me playing it, probably twice. I’m word perfect. Don’t think of the new version as competition, but as a companion piece; the arrangement is beautiful and the young players superb. I’ve linked it to everyone I know. They are universal in praising it to the skies.

Linked again


Entered at Thu Sep 20 18:49:29 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Blood on The Tracks

I don’t usually admit this; but from time time I’m asked what was my last favorite Dylan album. Well I have to go back to 1975. Imagine 43 years ago; because Blood On The Tracks was an LP that I could drop the needle on and listen straight through.

I haven’t been able to do that since. Personal preference I guess. I’ve now had time to go over the track listing and for $160.00 Canadian (and learning from my mistake on MFSB at 50, I will probably look at it from afar.) Things that used to turn me on; like 5 or more versions of the same song, no longer have a hold on me.

I have a wife and daughter; who don’t share my appreciation; nor enthusiasm about my collection and a son that would cherry pick through it. Things to think about going forward.


Entered at Thu Sep 20 18:11:44 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

John D: I'm off the hook on this one - I was never fond of "Blood on the Tracks" to begin with. (I must admit to warming to it in recent months, but not so much that I'd buy even the original CD.) Looking at your first link, the headline "Bob Dylan and his Band …", meaning his current group, struck me as cheap. Sort of like the cheap and sneaky drugstore LPs of the '60s that the record companies counted on your parents buying and bringing home for you, not realising that you wouldn't want music by the Beetles, or even music by the Beatles (in big letters) if it was played by The Lads from Liverpool (in small letters).


Entered at Thu Sep 20 17:23:44 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Track Listing for Bob

Track List for Bootleg Series Volume 14. Going to be $160.00 in Canada


Entered at Thu Sep 20 17:17:38 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Here We Go Again

Actually looking forward to this one ; but still have to study what's available in this package; which I have not heard.


Entered at Thu Sep 20 12:54:42 CEST 2018 from (108.36.226.127)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Rene and Georgette

Peter, I see (or hear) no great revelation or radical improvement in the orchestral version as compared to the one on Hearts and Bones. The backup is actually overpowering the vocal at the beginning and IMHO adds nothing to an already poignant and powerful song. But then I consider H&B to be one of the pinnacles of Simon's solo career, although he all but disowned it after it was not a commercial success. I recall reading an interview just as Graceland was about to be released in which he dismissed H&B for its lack of sales while enthusing over the new record's potential for reaching a wider audience. I often wonder how H&B would have sounded and sold if it had been released as a Simon & Garfunkel record, which was the original plan.


Entered at Thu Sep 20 10:43:26 CEST 2018 from (31.52.144.143)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Welcome back Brown Eyed Girl

Good to hear from you BEG. Hope you are well.

I saw Thin Lizzy back in the day. They were young but excellent. About 300 in the hall, and Scots being Scots, the show erupted into dance.

Still enjoying John Renbourne, Wallsend. I ordered Bert and John at the time, but am still waiting for it. Thanks. Playing Tony McManus a lot.

Playing Odessey and Oracle just now. Really good. The Zombies were badly managed. Should have had more success. Great singing.

MyHeart’s in the Highlands as Bob says on ‘Time Out of Mind’ and I’m away to the Highlands this long weekend. Beautiful.


Entered at Thu Sep 20 05:39:18 CEST 2018 from (1.42.214.171)

Posted by:

Wallsend

BEG, did you read Robbie's book? I seem to recall you hadn't read it before your hiatus. I would have though it would have generated more discussion here than it did.


Entered at Thu Sep 20 01:31:34 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Lisa...Yiiikes! Previous link to some of Robbie's set lists is incorrect! Robbie performed in NYC, not in Chicago in 2013. He performed "He Don't Live Here Anymore" and cover of "I Shall Be Released".

Happy Healthy Belated Birthday to Garth Hudson! Photo of Garth with Levon and Rick at CNE Bandshell in 1983.
John D...Were you at this show? Apparently Peter Goddard felt the magic was gone?


Entered at Thu Sep 20 01:06:39 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I think Pat B is correct...and I was there in NYC for both nights of Eric Clapton's Guitar Fest...Robbie was also there in 2007 but in Bridgeview, Illinois.

Jon...Great that you were able to see Toots!! I keep missing him whether in NYC or TO. He's about the only reggae artist and Marley's children....I still would like to experience. I would pick up his greatest hits for sure. Btw it has been so long since I ran into you in NYC...One of Garth's outdoor shows......Levon was supposed the have been there too with the Hummingbirds.

Robbie Robertson Concert Setlists & Tour Dates....Well some of them as he has performed at many award shows and RRHOF, etc.

For Dunc once again...The Last 5
Dancing In The Moonlight...Thin Lizzy
Seven...David Bowie
There's Everybody Else And Then There's You...Steve Forbert
Miss You (Live Concert For NYC)...The Rolling Stones
People Have The Power...Patti Smith


Entered at Thu Sep 20 00:42:23 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Apart from Agrigento and a few dates around it, has Robbie ever done a full show? The next would be four songs at Seville Guitar Legends. Otherwise it's one or two on special occasions. Pity, but it's been since TLW really, so not a surprse. He meant what he said.


Entered at Wed Sep 19 23:35:02 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:2cbc:235a:6cf:edc3)

Posted by:

Pat B

Jon, I believe RR's last public performance--not counting TV appearances--was Clapton's 2013 Crossroads fest in NY.


Entered at Wed Sep 19 23:26:18 CEST 2018 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Lisa, re Robbie not playing music in public, I don't think that's a 'policy change' so much as a simple statement of fact. He played a few songs in late night TV appearances to promote How To Become Clairvoyant in 2011, and did a short set with Native American perfomers at the 2002 Olympics. Folks should chime in if I'm wrong but offhand I can't remember any other public performances from him since the 90s.


Entered at Wed Sep 19 22:15:52 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

From the link beg posted it sounds like Robbie no longer performs in public, and hasn't for some time now? Has anyone heard anything about this before? Totally his decision of course, and presumably he'll still play on recordings, or at least I hope he will.


Entered at Wed Sep 19 18:54:02 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:14ca:e555:8bfa:c036)

Posted by:

Pat B

BEG!! Dang, old home week.


Entered at Wed Sep 19 18:11:20 CEST 2018 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: 2 recommendations - could be old news here..

There’s a Mike Judge (Beavis & BH, King of the Hill, the movie Office Space, etc) series called Tales From the Tour Bus on Amazon/Cinemax. He docs, comedically, some of the wildest characters in C&W: George Jones (of course!), Waylon Jennings, Johnny Paycheck, Billy Joe Shaver, etc. Brilliant!

In 1978 Martin Scorsese did a short interview film called An American Boy where a friend of his named Steven Prince spoke about his escapades. In 2009 a sequel to that was done called An American Prince where Steven is back with more stories. In the sequel he talks at some length about living with MS when JRR arrives on the scene. Both are on YouTube.


Entered at Wed Sep 19 18:07:51 CEST 2018 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Cheers BEG, nice to see you! I saw Toots and The Maytals live in Brooklyn last month... wonderful show. A miracle that Toots is still going strong (at 75!) and with so much energy.


Entered at Wed Sep 19 17:56:11 CEST 2018 from (67.246.38.157)

Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs, NY

Subject: John Simon

John Simon's new book is out: Truth, Lies & Hearsay:: A Memoir Of A Musical Life In And Out Of Rock And Roll.

I just ordered it. Joe


Entered at Wed Sep 19 03:45:26 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Out of the Blue - in spades!!

BEG - Wonderful to see you here again - hopefully it's not a mirage. Can Kevin J be far behind?


Entered at Wed Sep 19 00:18:19 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"The Band‘s Robbie Robertson was named an honorary fellow of the Royal Conservatory. Did he appear at your Royal Occasion gala this month?

He did. He got up and said, “You can imagine when the Royal Conservatory called me. I thought they got the wrong number.”

He can’t read music, and I hadn’t known that. But I told him, “You’re a musician. End of story.”

Peter Simon (right) with Robbie Robertson (left) at the Royal Occasion gala on May 31, 2018.

CHRISTINA GAPIC/HANDOUT
He’s not playing in public any longer. You’ve got a nice room. Why don’t you invite him to play Koerner Hall?

We’ve done that. We’d love to have him. But, you’re right, he’s stopped playing. He said flat out, “I just can’t. No can do.” Which is something I don’t understand, honestly.

The Royal Conservatory is involved in music education in Indigenous communities. Given his First Nations heritage, did that come up when you spoke with him?

Actually, we had an Indigenous group play for Robbie at the Royal Occasion. He said the fact that we were aware enough to have an Indigenous group play for him was a revelation. He was very pleased."

For Bill M...Listening to "Out Of The Blue" cover by Mary Margaret O'Hara. :-D


Entered at Wed Sep 19 00:18:38 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Subject: OMG!

Welcome back brown eyed girl, you have been so missed here! I've thought of you so often, and Joan too. I've really missed all your research and comments and lively style. I don't know if you've kept up with the GB, but every so often someone will lament the fact that you stopped posting - so hurray, you're back, please stay!


Entered at Tue Sep 18 23:57:38 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

What a wonderful surprise to see BEG again!


Entered at Tue Sep 18 23:43:34 CEST 2018 from (64.229.246.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

First off...Happy Happy Healthy Belated Big July Birthday to Peter V!
Also Happy Happy Healthy Belated August Birthday to Pat B!
And...Remembering Rollie who would have had his 60th Birthday on September 6 if my memory serves me well.
All these three guys....I cannot say enough.... :-D

"Robertson said that, alongside writing a sequel to his 2016 memoir and composing the score for upcoming Martin Scorsese movie The Irishman, the new solo album was also underway. “I'm not finished yet so it's a little hard to describe, but it is one of the most violent and sexy records that I've ever been part of,” he told Billboard in a new interview. “I’ve really done something this time, and I'm very excited about that.

Last 5...
The Boy With The Thorn In His Side...The Smiths
Reggae Got Soul...Toots and The Maytals
I Wish It Would Rain...The Temptations
The Pan Within (Live)...The Waterboys
Justine...David Johansen

Lisa :-D


Entered at Tue Sep 18 19:48:54 CEST 2018 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

PV, that Paul Simon thing is breathtaking.


Entered at Tue Sep 18 18:39:57 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Rockin C: Thanks for reminding me. If you listened to my link to "Midnight Ryder", you might like to know that Evan Kemp's steel player was Len Ryder - know him? Kemp had previously been King Ganaam's vocalist (and likely guitarist), and it may have been him doing the guitar boogie. It could also have been Kemp's fiddler, Butch McGillis (from the Island, I believe) who soon trekked across the Rockies to Edmonton to form a locally significant rockabilly band, the Rockatunes. Butch sings and plays lead impressively on the linked 45. It's sobring to think that 1958 seemed such distant history when I spoke to him in 1978 - but now 1978 is forty years ago. Ouch.


Entered at Tue Sep 18 15:35:15 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Cahir

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Way back in History

Good morning Bill. I do remember discussing Evan Kemp with you. I played music with him when I was about 18. If you recall, I e mailed you a picture of him. I remember you remarking about the records on his western shirt. I was living in Powell River at that time, however I began getting into the mix years before that.

I was living in Murville outside Courtenay, 2001 0r 02. I had my first computer on my boat. Used it for navigation. I brought it home in the winter and got myself hooked up to internet and started to learn. When I first found the Guest Book, Tracey had her pink page going. After some time Norbert took the helm and operated for a time until he was driven nuts I guess. I don't recall when Jan took over again but it's been a long run here.


Entered at Tue Sep 18 14:20:01 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: In the blue light …

Dunc, you may well find it in the supermarket. I got mine in Sainsburys - I nearly didn't spot it because it has a near opaque blue plastic slipcase with no writing on, so in the rack it just looks like a blue square with no title! I don't like giving supermarkets the business, but it was there on the day of release and so was I.


Entered at Tue Sep 18 13:03:03 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:f42f:feae:567a:721d)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks Bill M. I don't know the guy, but really like his muted toned kilt.

Thanks,Peter. I will pick up Paul Simon next time in Glasgow. Last five played.

Love and Theft - Bob Dylan

Out of Our Heads - The Rolling Stones - never knew about Ozen - googled and enjoyed watching her on YouTube - unusual. (Working my way through the Stones' albums).

Pourquois Quebec - Tony McManus

Roosevelt Raceway 1974 - CSNY

Stage Fright - The Band


Entered at Tue Sep 18 09:52:11 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Rene & Georgette Magritte

Link to an official live version of the new arrangement from Copenhagen. Incredible! Make sure you view it.


Entered at Tue Sep 18 09:48:49 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Five …

Music From Big Pink Remix 2018, and original in various versions

A Short History of Decay - John Murry

Egypt Station - Paul McCartney

Young Sick Camellia- St Paul & The Broken Bones

In The Blue Light - Paul Simon

“In the Blue Light” is the most played the last few days, where Paul Simon rethinks his “more obscure songs” often with the classical group YMusic who were with him at Hyde Park 2018. Well, “Rene & Georgette Magritte” was already in my Toppermost article ten, and “Darling Lorraine” was in the Alternative Toppermost. I wouldn’t call “One Man’s Ceiling” or “Cant Run But” obscure either. However, two that leap out on the new album are “Pigs, Sheep & Wolves”, and “Questions For The Angels”, both vast improvements on the first recordings. But the whole album is magical and insidious. His best for years, and a marker on how to revisit and revitalise back catalogue with grace and style. A major contrast to Bob Dylan pissing on his back catalogue.


Entered at Tue Sep 18 05:34:14 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Rockin C: Thought of you this afternoon when I passed an oldies store with five milk crates of LPs for a dime each. One was a bagpipes album (by a Donald MacLeod of Fort George, Scotland). I have nothing against bagpipes, but I bought it for the label (Aragon, a Vancouver label of (mostly) the '50s and early '60s. The key thing was that the back cover listed the entire catalogue at time of release, all 26 albums and all of the songs on all of the albums. You'll appreciate all of the last three:

- "Evan Kemp in Hollywood"; we've discussed Kemp before; he was mostly C&W but did some of Canada's earliest rockers; the link is to a typical country boogie that turns into a lively steel guitar outing; the last song on album is "Cripple Creek" (the bluegrass standard)

- "Pipes and Drums of Powell River" - where you were living when you first dropped in here, I believe

- "The Weaver of Dreams" by Elden Chapman at the Lowrey Organ; I wonder if Garth ever heard Elden Chapman; nice to know that the Lowery was featured from time to time


Entered at Tue Sep 18 01:51:47 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I can see clearly now.......that I'm awake

Thanks Roger! I'm sure you are right! :-)

I was laying on the couch, I guess I must have been snoozing. I thought Susan was reading me news. She was reading out of that gawd damn Face Book. Now she'll never let me forget it!


Entered at Mon Sep 17 23:08:42 CEST 2018 from (1.42.214.171)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Come to think of it, they also put out a two cd version of Santana's first album with extras and the complete Woodstock performance. Given our guys lack of interesting in jamming obviously there isn't much left to include as extras but still, I would have bought a MFBP/Woodstock double.


Entered at Mon Sep 17 22:58:37 CEST 2018 from (1.42.214.171)

Posted by:

Wallsend

A few years back Sony put out a two cd set of Santana III with the original album, some extras and a stunning live performance. Great way to celebrate the original album and great value for money.


Entered at Mon Sep 17 20:49:52 CEST 2018 from (77.103.81.34)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Macca - Norm

No worries Norm - we all now Paul M died in 1968 shortly before recording Abbey Road. You can tell from the album cover.


Entered at Mon Sep 17 15:41:02 CEST 2018 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Jan, I'm still a fan of Jubilation, and Don't Wait is my favorite as well. And your credit was well-deserved.

I have a fond memory of seeing Rick at a NYC club show in the summer of 1998. Between songs, he was teasing the audience about the new album that they had recorded but not yet released -- "I'd love to do 12 new songs for you all tonight, but Professor Louie just won't let me!". Smiling that sunny Rick smile, and just beaming with pride about the new material on the way.


Entered at Mon Sep 17 11:30:15 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: MFBP 50th

I'd have even included the Woodstock set as part of a double CD for the 50th Anniversary. You have to give people a decent reason to keep re-buying this stuff. As I said, three songs have been officially released anyway.


Entered at Mon Sep 17 04:55:24 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: STOP THE PRESSES!!

I just made a grave error....(well it wasn't about a grave) but it could have been. Susan was reading me from her tablet. Now I thought she was talking about Paul McCartney, because George Harrison is dead. Well, she wasn't.

I have a life long friend named George Harrison, he used to play the drums with me from the time he was 16. This is who Susan was talking about. Can you see how red my face is....sorry.......I got to listen better. Any way my friend George is doing better..........I'm a crazy old bastard. Any way George is pulling thru'.


Entered at Mon Sep 17 04:38:02 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

This evening I bumped into a reference to Uncle Remus, so thought of our guys' "Ruben Remus" and looked in here for the lyrics. What struck me was that several lines from the third verse - "Said he'd like to take you on" to "Why his songs were never banned" - suit the rhythm of "Ferdinand The Imposter" better than they do the rest of "Ruben Remus". And that makes me wonder if Robbie, who wrote Ferdinand and co-wrote Ruben, simply exported some verbiage from one to the other. Not that it turns it into a great song or anything close.

Looking at Ferdinand at this site, you get a link to former poster sadavid's essay on the song. Reminds me how much I miss sadavid. Also made me wish the Ferdinand lyrics in this site's discography section had been updated to include sadavid's more accurate rendering of my favourite thumbnail sketch in all of rock and roll: "Capless, batless, hunky small" as opposed to this site's "That last atlas honkey's fall".


Entered at Mon Sep 17 04:33:57 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Paul McCartney

I'm sure some of you may have heard of Paul's brush with death. Kidney stone stuck between kidney and bladder. Lungs filling with fluid. Thank god for our medical professions now. He's on the mend.....thankfully!


Entered at Mon Sep 17 03:13:20 CEST 2018 from (1.42.214.171)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, I agree with your review, not including the Woodcock performance with the new MFBP package is just strange. It would have been a perfect fit.


Entered at Sun Sep 16 15:27:20 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Re-linked the Music From Big Pink 50th article to save scrolling back.


Entered at Sat Sep 15 23:16:19 CEST 2018 from (73.119.115.178)

Posted by:

Dave H

Thanks for the great MFBP review, Peter, and thanks for linking to my old article on the 2000-era reissues. It's amazing that we're all still here 18 years later for another reissue!


Entered at Sat Sep 15 16:47:23 CEST 2018 from (2001:4644:9569:0:345e:32e0:2420:ae69)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: It was 20 years ago today...

The Band’s final studio album, ‘Jubilation’, was released on Sep 15th, 1998. I still play Levon’s «Don’t Wait» from this release quite often. The voice was clearly damaged, but his spirit shines through, as it always did. My (then new) UK friend Lee G. and myself both got credits on ‘Jubilation’, and I’m still rather proud of having my name on an official The Band album — other credits included Eric Clapton 😀. They were nice enough to list our Norwegian web site address on the cover, too.


Entered at Fri Sep 14 21:47:52 CEST 2018 from (2600:387:6:802::25)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Norm McDonald Has A Show

He’s a comedian here and he has this new interview show on Netflix. He was talking to Jane Fonda about who she finds/found sexy and she mentions Tony Curtis. He says TC reminds him of JRR; she disagrees vehemently: “not in the same league, but Levon Helm!!” And then a few words about LH playing her husband in The Doll Maker. On from there to how they had both gone to a Midnight Ramble. So, FYI..


Entered at Fri Sep 14 12:08:10 CEST 2018 from (100.38.159.168)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Strange Sounds

Lisa mentioned a bunch of sounds that bug her. There was a song by someone I think named Eddie Grant called Electric Avenue. I’d have to leave the room when that song was played. If I stayed to listen I’d become dizzy and nauseous. In the 80’s it would come on the radio often and when trapped with the song...well things could get real ugly.


Entered at Fri Sep 14 01:21:11 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Another issue with test tones is that only good hi-fi speakers can even play the full range. It sounds like your hearing is fine. But none of us can hear like a 5 year old.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 20:59:37 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hyperacusis

That's right Lisa that is the name. Regarding tinnitus, Peter will remember this. I used to get it occasionally so I know what it's like. This about 7 or 8 years ago now. Susan used to get it very badly. She would put her head on my shoulder at night and I would hold the top of her head in my hand so she could go to sleep.

One evening when we were living in Powell River, I think I had only been home for one night. I was down stairs working at my desk doing logs. She came down in her house coat holding her arm. She had slipped in the bath tub and broke her wrist. I got her right up to the hospital and got her taken care of. When we got home she was laying in bed suddenly she said, "It's gone!" I said what? She said the tinnitus, it's gone. She has never had it since. I'll never figure that out.

I see Peter, I know it had more to do with pitch than volume. I guess I'll go and take the test one of these days. I'm afraid of wearing hearing aids only for one reason. I have never been able to stand anything in my ears. Ear plugs for hearing protection drive me crazy they just don't want to stay in my ears, even the custom made ones they take a mould of your ear and make them. For in the engine room of my tug, or running my chain saw I have always worn the work safe approved ear muffs.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 20:26:27 CEST 2018 from (213.205.198.50)

Posted by:

Peter V

Norm you can get a hifi test CD with tones at various frequencies to test. It isn’t so much volume in question as frequencies, though both deteriorate inevitably. A musician friend in his 60s said when recording a long loud session, your response goes down, and they ran test tones every hour and when they had trouble hearing a 12,000 khz tone they packed up and went home.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 19:24:50 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Norm, the condition Susan has is called hyperacusis. It makes you super sensitive to certain types of sounds, and it is not something you have any control over.

It's very interesting to have this topic come up, as most of us here on the GB are probably of an age where hearing problems are bound to affect us. In my case, it has affected my listening to music quite a lot - I have had very bad tinnitus for over 30 years now accompanied increasingly by hyperacusis, as well as the usual age-related hearing loss. In fact it was when I was reading through the archives that I first learned about hyperacusis - that it was an actual condition and not just a terribly annoying personal quirk. One of the posters many years ago wrote about his trials with this condition, and how debilitating it was. The two conditions often go hand in hand, BTW.

Loud noises make me just about jump out of my skin - literally feels like an electric shock, and certain kinds of insistent, repetitive sounds drive me crazy, particularly sounds like engines idling (which I object to on many levels!), chewing (a separate condition called misophonia), and repetitive music such as rap or hip hop, which I literally cannot stand to listen to - I have to leave the room. This also applies to contemporary composers like Philip Glass and Steve Reich, in fact it's almost worse with them with that awful repetitive droning, over and over. Arrgh!

You are lucky Norm, that your work-related noise and your playing in bands hasn't affected you, but it doesn't always follow - my dad was a musician, and sat in front of the brass section his whole professional career, but aside from normal hearing loss for his age wasn't affected, so go figure. BTW, I wasn't exposed to loud noises when I was young (didn't go to many rock concerts like most of you here), so I don't know where all my conditions came from. Just the way the cookie crumbles, I guess.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 19:12:50 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Jed: No apology necessary, I'd say. Surely everyone noticed the wink in your typing.

Rockin C: Does Susan share your assessment of your hearing abilities? Lucky both of you if so.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 18:20:57 CEST 2018 from (100.38.159.168)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Apology

My intent in my last post was to have a laugh not to mock anyone or show a lack of respect. After all,I should have said I’ve been buying these so called upgrades for years now.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 16:57:13 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Reflections & Hearing

Thank you John. I'm sure you know I'm "never" being disrespectful to you fellows. I have always enjoyed the unwavering dedication to the Band from the members of this community. I guess as far as reproduction I say to myself, (when is enough, enough)?

Peter, I'm curious, have you ever had a hearing test? They are free here in BC. A mobile unit comes up the island here from time to time. Susan is very often after me to get my hearing checked. Trouble is she has this problem (I forget what it is called) she has very sensitive hearing. This seems odd to me because she can watch certain things on tv that seem very loud to me, (talk shows like where some people get very loud). However when it comes to music she can't handle it.

My observations are for example when you turn up the tv there is the bar showing the volume. I rarely listen to it at more than maybe 30%. My computer and sound systems higher because they are small speakers and not a huge output. I seem to be able to hear the highs and lows quite well considering having been on a steel tug with a heavy duty 450 HP diesel abusing you 24/7 when you are towing, and for many years. Also many years on stage cranking out pretty high volume music. I think I'm not in too bad a shape.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 14:49:10 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for the discussion of inevitable age-related hearing loss, an implicit contributor to sonic decisions that went into the preparation of the new and 'improved' MFBP.

Another quick scan of your blog had me noticing John Simon's saying that Crazy Chester was/is a real person known to members of the Band. I read this as an almost 'inside Washington' (or inside CP Snow) way of pointing in the right directions while seeming to point in the wrong direction. It seems to suggest another someone from the olden days in Arkansas (or Ontario) but is really, I think, Bob Dylan - a newer friend who helped out with accommodation when our guys first pulled into Woodstock, and subsequently shared his pooch with them (and Rick, who sings the verse, in particular).


Entered at Thu Sep 13 12:41:55 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Updates … 50th Box

As I said, with Wordpress, I can tinker, and amend. I just added this:

The new mix IS much brighter and louder.

We have a sonic deer scarer in our garden. Poole is much afflicted by urban deer eating the flowers. I pass it and I can just hear it in the distance. My grandkids put their hands on their ears and scream. I have to switch it off. Bob Clearmountain and Robbie Robertson, like me, are of an age when any ear specialist will tell you the treble and bass ends of the hearing spectrum are going. Young people can hear down to 20 hertz (bass) and up to 20,000 kilohertz (treble). Wiki says that under test conditions, people can detect 12 Hz to 28 Khz, thus beyond CD. That was beyond the 20 / 20,000 range selected for CD. Vinyl fans will assure you that we can be aware of these sounds outside our hearing range without actually being able to “hear” them, so CD is a limitation at the extremes. Hearing range shrinks from the age of eight on, though more slowly in women than men. I asked an ear specialist I know. He assures me that no one in their 70s, however musically trained can hear 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz.

So in mixing, they will push up the volume on the treble. It will be brighter. Does that mean better?


Entered at Thu Sep 13 11:50:11 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Lisa. The LPs and CDs and DVD are mine. The tapes from the internet image search, I hasten to add. The Norwegian and French 45s are from here, the rest are mine. I love the Marmalade 45 design on the Julie Driscoll. That and the follow up ‘Road to Cairo’ were the only real hits on the label which is highly collectable because it was so short-lived and everything on it was worth having. Blossom Toes were on Marmalade too. I think I’ll add the Spooky Tooth 45. Early Island looks good too.

Thanks too, Bill. I’ll just add those. The joy of a Wordpress blog is that I can add or correct in 2 minutes, which keeps it fresh.

Do comment over there and it stays with the article.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 11:50:11 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Rockin Chair I really enjoyed your heartfelt post. I have a number of Band friends that feel the same way.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 04:19:25 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: 'Epic' is the right word. Interesting too, of course. I think I'd buy your book before I'd buy the new package. One teeny-tiny addition I'd suggest is "Abbey Road" to the list of Beatles albums showing MFBP's influence on Paul - specifically "Carry That Weight" and "In The End".


Entered at Thu Sep 13 02:20:47 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Last Word!

I like Bill and Jed's take on it all. Did anyone ever bother to count up how many takes you have of the same song over the years? It's all horse shit! Spend a bunch of yer hard earned money and then convince your self it was warranted, com-on!

With all due respect for you guys and your die hard loyalty to the Band. Most of this stuff is just for some people to crease their pockets some more with the folding stuff. I'm sure that my collection is puny compared to most but I like the times that I bought it and where I got it from and the enjoyment it's given me over the years. For me..........that's good enough. I been listening to some of my life time favourites. Commander Cody with Nicolette Larson, Asleep at the Wheel, Emmy Lou with Little Feat and Bonnie Rhaitt. We were talking about and listening to Marty Robbin's son Ronnie the other day Peter. Have you ever listened to Dean Miller, Roger Miller's son? You will enjoy him and the song he wrote for his Dad. They have a country show in Nashville called "Second Generation"...wonderful.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 01:50:46 CEST 2018 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

That was epic, Peter! All the records, etc. you used as illustrations, are they all yours?


Entered at Thu Sep 13 01:47:49 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter MFSB

As always a very thorough review Peter. Excellent.


Entered at Thu Sep 13 00:29:29 CEST 2018 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: Southside

Checked out Peter's blog re Big Pink and linked to Al Edge's 2002 essay. Well spoke Al.


Entered at Wed Sep 12 20:33:28 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

See link for a bit more about an upcoming book on the Band (due in early November).


Entered at Wed Sep 12 19:48:05 CEST 2018 from (100.38.159.168)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: MFBP-The Placebo Effect

You buy each latest “remastered “ release eager and excited for the newest sonic rearrangement of what is already your favorite album.Then you pay the high price for this new masterpiece and the fancy booklet and the bonus tracks!(whoopee!). The album arrives and as you marvel at the pictures and hearing about the album (as if you couldn’t have written that and more) finally the big moment arrives. You put on the album and rave about the incredible sound. That wonderful sonic experience last a few more listens. Six months later you put the album on, listen and wonder what asshole screwed up the sound on my favorite album. And I lost the booklet. Months later and many thousands of dollars down the line of repeating this insanity over and over you realize those first listens were merely placebo effects related directly to the money wasted on each purchase!


Entered at Wed Sep 12 17:32:06 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Terronno
Web: My link

Dunc: Another Scottish-born Canadian makes good. Have always loved the guy's music, but didn't know he was born in Scotland until I read the article at the link. I doubt if he wears the kilt onstage much, especially his main gig fronting Styx. Between his successful solo stuff in the '80s and now, he was a Hawk for awhile, and even turns up on bargain comps with our guys, as tapes from the big Hawkins tribute / retrospective in the '90s sometimes include both the later-day Band and the current Hawks - with Gowan singing Little Richard-type rockers. Never met him, but worked with his sister in an office in the '80s. Did see him perform circa '80 at the Gasworks on Yonge Street, brilliantly fronting his own group, Reingold. Unfortunately there was no DIY scene in town back then, aside from punk - so they never released anything.

Responding to John D's note about the reissue of MFBP, aside from the expense and my lack of technology (notably BluRay), is that it bothers me very deeply that anyone, and especially someone who wasn't anywhere near the room, would presume to do a better job of making better sonic and mixing choices than the guys who made it in '68. These were brilliant, experienced musicians, working with a brilliant and wonderfully sensitive producer in a couple of first-rate studios for a serious label - none of whom would have let the thing out the door unless they were happy with it. But Bob Clearmountain knows better?


Entered at Wed Sep 12 17:18:08 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The 50th Anniversary review

This is a long review of the new 50th Anniversary box set of Music From Big Pink (LINKED). Not only does it cover the new release, but has an illustrated history of previous releases, and I’ve added extracts from critics, and a heavily-revised version of my original 1992 chapter on the album.


Entered at Wed Sep 12 16:50:22 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:3802:1fcf:6d35:fabe)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

I enjoyed the stories too. I love stories.


Entered at Wed Sep 12 14:43:24 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: The White Album

After writing about MFSB at 50, I do admit to reading about what Giles Martin will do withe White Album. I've had the pleasure of interviewing Giles twice. Once for " Love" and the other with his Father Sir George. I enjoy Giles's work. I'm also a big fan of the White Album.


Entered at Wed Sep 12 14:29:43 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V

Great story Peter!!


Entered at Wed Sep 12 14:27:12 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: MFSB at 50

Bill M and I had a nice chat about the release of this set; on Sunday. Bill has not bought it and I'll leave it to him, if he is so inclined to tell you why.

I hesitated to make this post; but it's relatively early in the morning and I thought, "what the heck." I've already posted I do enjoy the 5.1 mixes on the Blu-Ray disc. I had already posted early on that a booklet; or the vinyl releases etc really didn't mean much to me at this time. So; in the end I think $100.00 dollars plus tax could have been spent; in better ways. I agree with Wallsend. Some rarities; from other times in The Band's life would have been better for me. Nothing wrong with MFSB at 50; but I have buyer's regrets. If they do a Brown album release; in the future and they release a 5.1 mix SINGLE CD, I would buy that; but not a whole package set.


Entered at Tue Sep 11 20:09:58 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: happy / sad

Peter V: I liked John D's stories, but they sure didn't make me laugh like yours did.

At the other end of the emotional spectrum is the news that Scott Cushnie hasn't turned up yet. But at least he made today's newspaper with a feature article that mentions that he played with Aerosmith ("Toys in the Attic" album and tour, and one other album, I believe) and had ties to the Band. See link.


Entered at Tue Sep 11 17:58:30 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Great stories, John. One answer for Arlo is that if the radio station was promoting the show, they want their MC to announce it and mention their name. I saw a pristine copy of his Dad's Folkways LP, "Stories To Grow" yesterday and bought it.

Mind you, Arlo might have been “bitten” by intros, as I was once.

I was promoting one of our video series in France, and the first day, the local sales manager of my publisher introduced me – taking up ten minutes of my allotted and carefully timed sixty. During which he pointed out two other video series they had published which were not by me. I was getting annoyed, then he said “I’m sure Peter will agree they’re the best things we’ve ever done.” Afterwards I pointed out that the mentioned videos were (a) total crap (b) in direct competition with mine (c) he was lucky I hadn’t told the audience they were crap and why. “But they’re all from our publisher,” he said. I pointed out that I lived off royalties off MY series, not any others, and that for the rest of the week, I’d be introducing myself. We were walking out to the car at the time. He slipped on some dog shit and fell into more, I was crying with laughter, “Justice has been done,” I said. I don’t suppose he ever forgave me.


Entered at Tue Sep 11 15:00:38 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: MC Duties

Peter, you wanted more; so I will tell the other 2 stories.

All these events happened at Massey Hall; where Dylan and The Hawks appeared a few years before. I was dating a beautiful girl who happened to be of the Baha'i faith. The act was Seals & Crofts who of course were of the Baha'i faith. They had a great run and were wonderful people. As an aside I had an opportunity to leave radio and be their road manager. I decided not to do it and stay with radio.

Anyway I walk on stage to a full spotlight and the light was so bright, it lit up the first 10 rows where my girlfriend was sitting.

I began as always, "Good Evening Ladies & Gentleman, I'm John Donabie; from CHUM-FM." From somewhere out in the darkness of the hall I get a heckle; which was not really common. Someone yells as loudly as possible, "You're A Fag!" Within a fraction of a second; which caught me off guard; more than the heckle, my girlfriend stands up....turns around... and yells..."OH NO HE'S NOT! The audience laughed and I brought on Seals & Crofts. Again never forgot it.

The third story happened backstage at Massey Hall. The announcers; from CHUM-FM; in those days were on a rotation basis to do MC work. The act was Arlo Guthrie. I was a fan and really looked forward to it. That night something happened that had never happened before; or after.

I go backstage and make my way back to Arlo's room. I walk in and he looks up. :"Can I help you" he says. I say, "I'm John Donabie; from CHUM-FM and I'm here to bring you on tonight." He smiles and asks me to sit down. The following brief conversation as always stuck with me.

He says, "John is the Hall sold out tonight?" I reply, "Yes it is." " OK then John so we can figure that they all know they are here to see me perform, right?" I'm not sure where he is going; but I reply "yes." "Then if they have all bought tickets to see me, doesn't it make sense they know why they are here?" "Uh huh" I answer. "Then can you tell me why I need someone to go out there and tell them who I am?" He smiles. It actually made sense to me.....sort of. He then gives me a big Arlo smile and says, "Look John it's just that I don't use MC's. Have you got tickets for the show tonight?" I reply in the affirmative. "Then why don't you go out there an sit down and relax and enjoy the show." He rises to shake my hand. It's important to note that he wan't being a Pr**k. He was just stating a fact; which made sense to him and was the way he did business. I went back to my seat and enjoyed the show. Again, it never happened before; or since. It was certainly different.


Entered at Tue Sep 11 10:13:06 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

More John! Loved the story. it set me thinking about the MC. Otis Redding had that O-T-I-S-R-E-D-D-I-N-G audience welcome, years before the "FISH" cheer. The most prominent was with Rahsaan Roland Kirk. He had an MC permanently at hand, partly to lead him about, but he took Roland Kirk's stick when he started playing and beat it on the floor too. He was the most vocal.

And we have Van Morrison, who has a band member calling "Mr Van Morrison, ladies and gentlemen! Mr Van Morrison!" as Van goes off during Brown Eyed Girl, and the band play on for several minutes, during which Van has walked through to his car and left the building. Georgie Fame used to do it very well when he was with Van. Robbie did it for Van at The Last Waltz too but shorter (Van the Man!)


Entered at Mon Sep 10 18:04:10 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:b51e:f198:a813:d4f5)

Posted by:

Pat B

John D, great story.


Entered at Mon Sep 10 14:26:36 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Wilson Pickett & Bill M

Great to see you yesterday as well Bill. Sorry I drifted away; but I was being called over to see someone I hadn't seen in years.

Wilson Pickett. One of the most memorable MC jobs I ever did in my career and for one particular reason. Wilson himself informed me; before he went on; to be ready in the wings to run out and pick up the mic; after he had dropped to his knees and start yelling, "The wicked Pickett, the wicked Picket." I would then hand him the mic...he would stand up and finish the act. No Problem. What Mr. Pickett didn't tell me was that he would drop to his knees TWICE!

So out I come to do my thing and before I could do anything he grabs the mic back from me, stands and gives me an elbow to get off. I run back to the wings and a couple of minutes later he drops to his knees again. He kind of turns to me and I figure this is the right time. It was. I do my thing and he finishes his act. There are three instances in my career that are memorable; in my MC duties and that was one of them. I believe it was 1968; but not sure.


Entered at Mon Sep 10 03:30:30 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

John D: It was nice to see you two at the 3030. Great turnout. Your name came up in conversation, but when I looked around you were gone. The question was, do you recall the Wilson Pickett show you emceed? Peter H from the Checkmates filled in on bass for that show, but isn't sure of the year. I said I'd ask.


Entered at Sun Sep 9 19:16:00 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: George

See you there Bill M.


Entered at Sun Sep 9 17:19:08 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck Prophet & Stephanie Finch

Link is to a review of a great evening. Chuck Prophet & Stephanie Finch, live in a parish hall in rural Hampshire- a fabulous setting. Support was first rate from John Murry (from Tupelo) and British duo Lucas & King who won the Fender guitars "Best newcomers" award 2018. Lots of brilliant music.


Entered at Sun Sep 9 11:08:36 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:83:bb0b:cc78:69c2)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Last five played

Nusic From Big Pink The Band

Willow Springs - Michael McDermoot - Thanks Bob F

Live at the Wolf - Garth and Maud Hudson

Pourquoi Quebec - Tony McManus

Cover Girls - a Peter the V production of female artists recording covers of iconic songs. Brilliant.

Rolling Stones - 12x 5

Ronnie Lane - How Come

Seven actually


Entered at Sun Sep 9 10:56:26 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:cc9a:5362:73d7:9c4f)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks Bill M

Strange coincidence. It's Sunday morning here Bill M, and I'm playing a Tony McManus album just now, which was recorded in Quebec. I posted a couple of weeks back to you to look at Tony McManus playing Hugh's room, but perhaps you missed it. Give that a look and see if you like it.

My better half is reticent about going to concerts too. She liked going to see people like Leonard Cohen, Randy Newman, James Taylor, Michael Marra preferably at our beautiful concert hall. People who communicated with the audience - you felt that you were at a show.

If I lived up the road from you, Mate, I would have jumped at the chance to go with you. The venue sounds brilliant. And he is brilliant and now an honorary Ontarian. Beautiful playing from the greatest Celtic guitar player in the world.


Entered at Sun Sep 9 05:43:28 CEST 2018 from (65.92.195.104)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronna
Web: My link

Here's a link to a very Hawksish version of "Homework" from '65 by Richie Knight and the Midknights. By their next record they were even more Hawksish, having added a pianist to the lineup - Richard Bell. By the record after that, Richie Knight had been replaced by Richard Newell, aka King Biscuit Boy. Ronnie Hawkins recruited first Bell then Newell into his group, 1967-68. I'm posting this now because there's a big tribute to the group's guitarist-leader George Semkiw up the street from me tomorrow. The last time I saw George he was two years ago when he was doing sound for Little Caesar and the Consuls. The group leader was still Norm Sherrat, who started the group in a year or so before Robbie Robertson joined in the middle of '59. And on drums was Sonny Milne, the guy who'd replaced Levon when our guys left Hawkins.

Dunc: This morning we stopped at a farmer's market in suburban Maple (just north of Toronto) and noticed a flyer that listed an upcoming show by Tony McManus at a local church on the 15th. There was no pushback to my suggestion that we attend (despite the venue). Will report further.


Entered at Sun Sep 9 00:36:04 CEST 2018 from (2001:569:7bfd:ce00:e531:e1f5:c50f:2da9)

Posted by:

Lisa

Aw, darling Rick, what a lovely photo of him. I wonder if the Dankettes are still around?


Entered at Sat Sep 8 22:48:52 CEST 2018 from (2001:700:a00:ff62::f)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Listening to the 50th anniversary reissue mixes of «Music from Big Pink» tonight. Rick never sounded better, IMHO. And looked the part (link above).


Entered at Sat Sep 8 19:06:40 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Thanks for the reminder Pat. Not sure how to do it. I was told to download to USB and then stick it in the back of the OPPO? I just found it odd that it only happened on the one track. Thanks again Pat.


Entered at Sat Sep 8 18:43:07 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:34b8:295c:958e:af2d)

Posted by:

Pat B

John D, did you update?


Entered at Sat Sep 8 18:30:41 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Chest Fever Blu-Ray

Listened to whole cd and loved it. With one exception. The initial vocals on Chest Fever seem buried under the music and then when the chorus hits it comes roaring through my rear speakers. Tried it in all three modes with same results. Thought it was odd. My system on that one track. Maybe.


Entered at Sat Sep 8 13:16:14 CEST 2018 from (83.250.89.187)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: The Sound

Subject: Aeroplanes (aircrafts for the British) / Rockin Chair

(This is only to let you know that I can fly a simple Cessna - says the man himself!)
1.) Tom Petty and the beautiful shoot in Mojave desert airplane graveyard - for sure!
2.) The late John Denver in Monterey bay.
3.) ... in the dirty condola...
4.) Jefferson Airplane with the fabulous Finn Jorma Kaukonen.

Especially to "Drunken Cher":

I know what you mean with your maritime posts. - One of the world's finest polar expedition yachts (camouflaged as an ordinary fishing boat) has been anchored in front of this fishing village for this summer - after sailing in the most abandoned waters in Greenland and Cap Horn and Antarktis. Simply bacause the owner's ancestor (later on the richest man in Europe) were just an ordinary merchant here. So, dear "Rockin Chair", maybe we coasters live in a paradise ... but don't tell anyone! I won't.


Entered at Fri Sep 7 22:41:42 CEST 2018 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

In other news, I'm really looking forward to Robbie's next solo album which is apparently in progress. Been obsessed with "Straight Down The Line" from the previous one in the last few days--what a great great song.


Entered at Fri Sep 7 13:17:20 CEST 2018 from (1.42.214.171)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I would rather have some new recordings from the Festival Express or the Royal Albert Hall show than a reworking of MFBP. I guess a boxed set of MFBP represents low hanging fruit in terms of making money.


Entered at Fri Sep 7 00:12:51 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Thanks Peter. It is time for a major upgrade; however we just did a major upgrade to our bathroom. Going to have to wait. Big Pink in 5.1 sounds incredible.


Entered at Thu Sep 6 23:11:18 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Just to check, the disc is a blu-ray, not a DVD. My one year old Sony Blu-Ray plays DVD-A and SACD discs. So the PCM and 5.1 content, as far as I can see will require blu ray. I get a screen and you scroll up and down. it is a fixed picture.


Entered at Thu Sep 6 20:56:18 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Sorry Pat. OPPA DVD player.


Entered at Thu Sep 6 20:53:15 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pat. Pop up button

What is meant about pushing the pop up button to return. Again probably because my DVD machine is 7 years old. OOKLA. Thanks Pat.


Entered at Thu Sep 6 20:47:21 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pat

Pat I think your absolutely right.


Entered at Thu Sep 6 20:43:10 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:2930:59b:5fcc:2fb5)

Posted by:

Pat B

John D, your DVD player may need an update.


Entered at Thu Sep 6 20:39:42 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: MFSB

Ok. I put the second cd in again and all of a sudden I have a picture of the album and a choice of sound. I swear this did not happen the first time. Under visuals it says press the pop up button. What pop up button? Sorry


Entered at Thu Sep 6 20:17:14 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: MFSB at 50

OK. I played the two CD’s. I don’t notice any sound difference. Since the screen remains black, I don’t understand the Blu-Ray authoring credit. Mixes are fine; but is my system too old to hear something different on the 2nd CD? Somebody help me with this. I feel I spent a hundred bucks just to hear new mixes. Again.....am I missing something and why didn’t they have still pictures on the screen. Am I asking too much? Thank you very much.


Entered at Thu Sep 6 19:27:06 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Band - A Musical History

In the last week the arthritis in my right hand has been giving me a lot of pain. After working on my boats all summer. I've had to lay low and give it a lot of rest.

I have taken to entertaining myself with some of my collection. With all the hype from you "teen agers" here ranting about (new old stuff). I have not heard anyone comment on this beautiful book I hold full of great pictures and stories and all the cd's and the DVD of great music. I haven't pulled it out for a while and am really enjoying it. (Along with my 6 seasons of "Hell On Wheels). At the end of season 4, while our hero stands on a hill in the Rockie Mountains looking into the distance where the railroad will go, the back ground music is The Band singing "I Will Be Released".


Entered at Wed Sep 5 20:22:48 CEST 2018 from (64.229.12.187)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto
Web: My link

Subject: bummer news dept ...

Worrying news about former Hawk, former Suede Scott Cushnie at the link above. He's gone missing downtown - 80 and blind, so not good, not good at all. Scroll down several paragraphs, between the second and third photos.


Entered at Wed Sep 5 19:52:16 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:c4c1:846e:b1a7:4208)

Posted by:

Pat B

btw, Sandy Helm gets a "Special Thanks" (among others) on the inside cover of the MFBP vinyl gatefold.


Entered at Wed Sep 5 19:49:31 CEST 2018 from (2001:700:a00:ff62::d)

Posted by:

jh

Posting enabled again. A little nasty gremlin that blocked the guestbook file had to be evicted from the server.


Entered at Wed Sep 5 19:44:50 CEST 2018 from (2001:700:a00:ff62::d)

Posted by:

jh

t-t-t-testing


Entered at Wed Sep 5 13:55:58 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: MFSB

Amazon promised it by 9:00 pm last night. It arrived at 7:50 pm. Think I'll leave the shrink wrap on for a few hours.


Entered at Wed Sep 5 10:20:44 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I can't find either the Islands de luxe box set or the Cahoots box set on Amazon pre-order yet …


Entered at Wed Sep 5 05:07:52 CEST 2018 from (69.203.125.109)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

...and Islands! Don't forget Islands!


Entered at Tue Sep 4 20:48:04 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Looking forward to Pat's reactions. Yes, the brown album has to be given the same lavish treatment.


Entered at Tue Sep 4 20:40:54 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:34d3:6f41:b150:9260)

Posted by:

Pat B

Just received the deluxe MFBP. Haven't heard it yet but it is an impressive package.

Two things in the media hoopla: Capitol plans this sort of thing with other Band albums and RR has another solo album in the works.


Entered at Tue Sep 4 19:05:02 CEST 2018 from (83.250.89.187)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: We are old . . . nothing wrong with that / Aretha

I sat on a bus in 1968 / God send my dream girl from the school yard next to me on the buss / She liked ARETHA most of all / I invited her to a walk by the record store in our provincial Finnish industrial town when the school beguin next autumn / She had another. ANOTHER!

Ran to her at the university after a few years / She was uggly and fat and laughed at to my face when her girl friends were there.

I still can't listen to Aretha after these years. Sorry.


Entered at Tue Sep 4 15:28:07 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Wait … for The Weight

I just spent a happy hour with the box set, and I’ve just been trying to compare, so only listening to The Weight.

It’s hugely system dependent. The blu-ray disc has 2.0 PCM, and two choices of 5.1 mix. Obviously for most people that plays on your 5.1 TV system which may not be attuned to music, though my MK speakers (no longer made) are. Immediate reaction is clarity, but the 5.1 mixes sound better than the ultra high-def PCM stereo, not because they’re utilising the surround sound, but because they bring in more speakers.

So then I switched to CD on my main Myrad hi-fi system through big Mission speakers … all my stuff is 20+ years old, the Missions probably 30+. The CD sounds smoother, but again that’s the big hi-fi speakers compared to a surround sound system. The LPs are effectively “12” singles” as we used to call them, so that it’s spread over 2 LPs playing at 45 rpm instead of 33 rpm. That makes them louder too. As ever analogue sounds different. Warmer, you could listen all day, but very slightly duller. Less bass, though 45 rpm should improve the bass too and probably does. Then I put on my oldest CD (not the 2000 remaster but the first CD issue) and actually it sounds fine. To me, much more like the LPs than the later ones. Yes, it’s not as “full” but if like me you’ve been listening to it for years I wouldn’t think the box would be a revelation.

To really compare, you would have to put a blu-ray player into the same hi-fi.

BUT it’s a beautiful package, lovingly presented too. It’s a fabulous “possession” but you’re not going to hear anything you missed.


Entered at Tue Sep 4 15:19:57 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Aretha Franklin 30 Greatest Hits

This album is currently on the top of the charts for Aretha's catalog. It originated here in Toronto by Kim Cooke of Warner Atlantic Canada at the time. Liner notes from Canadian Music Writer, Larry Leblanc; who now is a writer for Celebrity Access Magazine.


Entered at Tue Sep 4 13:50:19 CEST 2018 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:f5f0:e67:856:72b8)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: I give a f..k

I give a fuck, Peter. Just tell me Peter and John D, do I buy it? Am I getting anything extra?


Entered at Tue Sep 4 10:04:34 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Aretha

I wonder if Jerry Wexler was thinking about the album “This Girl’s In Love With You” as a whole, and blaming The Weight. It was released at the start of 1970 and is stuffed with covers of hits by white writers … This Girl's In Love With You, Son of A Preacher Man, The Weight, Let It Be, Eleanor Rigby, Dark End of The Street. The sleeve notes rate Call Me (R&B #1, Pop #13) as the biggest hit, though Share Your Love With Me had exactly the same chart positions. It was released as a 45 before The Weight, was a hit, then put on the B-side of The Weight too. I wonder if its juxtaposition with The Weight was the real reason why The Band remembered it four years later, rather than going back to Bobby Bland.

Eleanor Rigby was about the same (R&B #5, Pop #17) as The Weight (R&B #3, Pop #19). Maybe the whole album sold fewer than Wexler had anticipated, or just later he thought it was a wrong direction.

The Weight is notable for the prersence of Duane Allman on slide guitar. Arerha played piano.

The notes also point out that Aretha was offered Son of A Preacher Man a year earlier and rejected it because of its religious references. It was then offered to Dusty Springfield, who had the hit. Then Aretha decided to cover it for this album.

The current Aretha industry is a little tasteless, I think. Two days after she died, HMV had a special rack with around ten Aretha albums / compilations in large quantities. You don’t press and transport that many that quickly, so I assume the record label knew she was close to passing and had made preparations.


Entered at Tue Sep 4 00:21:29 CEST 2018 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

Peter, it was her best performing single from July of 68 to July of 69.


Entered at Tue Sep 4 00:14:25 CEST 2018 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: We're on a mission from God!

Best part of the "Blues Brothers" Aretha in the café singing "Think". Yuh gotta love it. Lot of good folks in that movie.


Entered at Mon Sep 3 22:59:26 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

In the end, Pat, the fact that we'd have been satisfied with a mere R&B #3 is why we didn't end up running Atlantic Records. But that chart must have been an airplay / sales mix and Wexler knew the bottom line and didn't like it.


Entered at Mon Sep 3 20:58:23 CEST 2018 from (99.227.168.67)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: MFBP at 50

OK. I broke down today and ordered it. After all I am a completist on certain artists. The other reason? Amazon just knocked $24.00 off the list price and being a prime member I got free shipping. It arrives tomorrow.


Entered at Mon Sep 3 20:33:35 CEST 2018 from (2602:306:c586:d0c0:4412:e4ac:a569:8b0d)

Posted by:

Pat B

Yeaah, I'd hate to make such an egregious A&R mistake that only made it to #3.


Entered at Mon Sep 3 19:02:19 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 50th box set

Still got the seal on the box, but I decided to use the 2000 CD remaster for my exercise routine. That room has a Boston Acoustics system with sub-woofer and satellites, and is fed by a very bright Sony CD player and large Technics amp. As I use it for exercise bike etc I think of this 25 year old system as my "soul music" system, and it's ideal for soul. You know, played through that system the 2000 CD remaster also sounds very bright and separated indeed … none of the woody sound of the LP or the early CD. I don't think I've played The Band on that system before- it's usually on my more natural sounding main Myrad system or my computer Bowers & Wilkins. So I reckon evaluating will be extremely system dependent.

Probably no one gives a flying fu*k. I'd love to have heard David P on this.


Entered at Mon Sep 3 16:05:09 CEST 2018 from (69.203.125.109)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Huh, never knew Aretha recorded The Weight. Listening to it right now. Pretty cool!


Entered at Mon Sep 3 14:17:21 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

On the other hand, The Staples Singers plus Diana Ross with The Supremes and The Temptations, chose to record The Weight.

Box set just arrived. Grandkids about to arrive right afterwards.


Entered at Mon Sep 3 14:15:19 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Aretha & The Weight

Sleeve note to CD remaster of “This Girl’s In Love With You.”

“At Jerry Wexler’s suggestion, Aretha recorded a blues-tinged version of The Weight … Wexler admitted in hindsight that choosing the song for Aretha may have been a mistake … “I was trying to make a bridge over to the flower children … I bitterly regret having done The Weight with her. The song is totally incomprehensible to her basic rhythm and blues constituency. Aretha cannot have a big hit unless it also a hit with her black audience. It’s got to be both, so this is where commercial stupidity and greed got the upper hand on me.” … the single did manage to make the #3 slot on the R&B chart … one can conjecture that its chart rise may have been based more on airplay than on sales.”

Wexler would know the sales. I can’t find the Aretha reference partly because the small print on some of these CDs is illegible even with a magnifying glass, but I’m sure I read somewhere that she also regretted recording it.


Entered at Mon Sep 3 13:52:25 CEST 2018 from (198.199.105.233)

Posted by:

Jack

Subject: Robbie on Aretha

If you Google - Music from Big Pink at 50: Robbie Robertson on the Band's Debut and Basement Jams with Bob Dylan and Robbie Robertson on The Band’s ‘Music From Big Pink’ at 50: ‘It Sounds Like The Band I Remember’ I think I counted maybe 5-6 Interviews Robbie has done on Big Pink over the last few weeks.


Entered at Sun Sep 2 21:21:21 CEST 2018 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

PSB, I was talking about Aretha Franklin.


Entered at Sun Sep 2 18:44:51 CEST 2018 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: I Shall Be Released - vocals only, mostly

I know it’s a hoax but I like this mix too. I’m going from memory here, but in mid 90’s Band documentary did not JRR, at his board & demonstrating the different tracks, pot up the vocals only on this one? I don’t recall if he commented though.


Entered at Sun Sep 2 18:02:42 CEST 2018 from (71.162.205.110)

Posted by:

PSB

Subject: Robbie on Aretha

Peter V, Robbie's statement on Aretha doesn't mention "The Weight," so what are you talking about?


Entered at Sun Sep 2 09:29:28 CEST 2018 from (210.86.84.207)

Posted by:

Rod

Location: Definiitely not A cappella

A bit silly to suggest it was


Entered at Sat Sep 1 23:32:08 CEST 2018 from (92.54.175.179)

Posted by:

Peter V

Had he read the Aretha sleeve notes a few years ago? She never wanted to record The Weight!


Entered at Sat Sep 1 09:55:11 CEST 2018 from (104.236.47.176)

Posted by:

Jack

Subject: Robbie on Aretha

Oh my god, there are so many great singers in the world, but I don’t know anybody that was better than Aretha Franklin. I just don’t. Other people could sing louder and harder, but she had the texture. It isn’t just about range. She had the texture and the phrasing and the timing and the feel. Her sound was above and beyond anybody else’s. She didn’t yell, she didn’t squall, she didn’t shout. She sang from the heavens. I can remember the first time I ever heard her sing — it was before she was even on Atlantic Records — and thinking, “Wow! That’s right out of the church, and that’s as good as it gets.”


Entered at Sat Sep 1 03:38:04 CEST 2018 from (64.229.183.90)

Posted by:

Bill M

Just listened to the remix of "I Shall Be Released". I agree that calling it a capella is BS, but it sure is lovely nonetheless, especially the perfectly delivered closing line - "Any day now, any day now, I shall be released". It made me realise how prescient the choice to use 'shall' was in view of Richard's end. Also, did Richard do extended falsetto prior to meeting Tiny Tim in Woodstock?


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