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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

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Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

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Entered at Sun Aug 20 15:11:00 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jeff

Looking forward to it Jeff. Any chance a release in 2017?


Entered at Sun Aug 20 10:01:53 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

When we were kids, history used to be Great Men, Kings and battles… Clive of India, Wolfe of Canada, Sir Francis Drake. We also had Great Women … Joan of Arc, Elizabeth I, Florence Nightingale. Braudel was a major part of moving interest to social history, so we get books telling us about history via the pen, the potato, coffee, salt, shoes (it took centuries for the concept of right and left shoes to arrive). Now, so much is multicultural that kids spend months on the Ashanti of West Africa, but don’t know when World War II started or what Oliver Cromwell did.

But it’s all history. And you need to experience all three approaches.

I think of the murals of the siege of Vicksburg which we admired three years ago. I can’t see anyone taking those down. As they told us, July 4th was not celebrated in the state of Mississippi until 1945 because it marks the fall of Vicksburg to the Union forces.


Entered at Sun Aug 20 09:55:39 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Sounds brilliant, Jeff! Look forward to hearing it.


Entered at Sun Aug 20 05:58:04 CEST 2017 from (67.84.79.146)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Those of you who saw Dylan's 86-87 tour with GE Smith, Chris Parker, & Kenny Aaronson are well familiar with the exceptional quality of Kenny's bass playing. Some of you know Eric Parker's drumming from his years with Joe Cocker & Orleans, among other great acts. Some of you heard of , maybe witnessed ( the playing of) Arthur Neilson, who i have been raving about here since i entered in 02. I know Arthur since the 80s, and Ive always said i'd just as soon as , maybe even rather, see Arthur play than Clapton. Arthur was on two tracks on my School For Fools project that released in 02, I have a pile more with him on em from 01 that will be released this or next year. But, I also have a masterpiece project that i've not touched in 4 years.

I spent yesterday, Friday, & part of today, in a studio in Woodstock with Arthur on guitar, Kenny on bass, Eric on drums, & a mystery vocalist every one of you here are familiar, likely very familiar with. We got four of my songs tracked, & vocals.. Finished vocal tracking during a few hours this afternoon. Very very heavy fucking duty. Really as good as it gets. That makes 10 tracks that probably each could be a single. I still gotta live through the rest of this.


Entered at Sat Aug 19 23:16:27 CEST 2017 from (74.12.34.164)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

If the Germans can manage to teach their children about a horrible war without big bronze visual aids, I'm sure the Americans can manage to do so as well. I'd say that statues get in the way of education when they focus attention away from the issues / reasons / events / lessons and onto the 'great men' in charge.

Kevin J: The newspaper lists Michel Pagliaro as playing at the Bandshell at the Ex on Monday at 7:30 pm. The Box is the opening act.


Entered at Sat Aug 19 14:10:52 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: History

I read the Oxford American online about the previous removals in New Orleans. I had realized that many of these statues date to the 1920s, and Huey Long and Father Coughlan and the KKK and American fascist movements of the era.

My issues are that as a trained historian, I just hate airbrushing history. Teach from it, but don’t eradicate it. Which is why I agree with John about moving them into museum spaces where they can be educational, but no longer a rallying point. Germans are taught the history ofWorld War II. In contrast, many Chinese haven't a clue about Mao and the Cultural revolution.

My second issue, to repeat, is that the 21st century is being unfair on Robert E. Lee. Obviously we can’t blame the founding fathers for living decades before it was an issue, but Mount Rushmore does indicate selectivity on the villains.

When it comes to memorials to the Confederate war dead, you have to respect them and leave them alone. Period. Otherwise you will be forcing people in the middle to veer to the right in those towns.

.On slavery, the economics were indeed interwoven tightly with the system. One of the things done so well in Dixie is that Virgil is back with his wife in Tennessee, a state divided into slaveholders by the river, and subsistence farmers in the hills, where there wasn’t slavery. Virgil Kane wasn’t a slaveholder, but a farmer working the land. One could say that the non-slaveholding farmers were deceived by the slave-owners, which has truth in it. But they weren’t all fighting for slavery, and slavery was not evenly spread across the states which fought, though it was legal in all of them. Nor did the Emancipation Proclamation appear until 1863 as part of the Northern war strategy. It’s pure Marx: Feudalism in the South versus Capitalism in the North. You can argue that the social systems are more important than the economic systems, or the reverse. Whatever, it’s Virgil Kane’s brother that got laid in his grave, and eradicating monuments will feed the right-wing bastards by enlarging their constituency.


Entered at Sat Aug 19 07:17:21 CEST 2017 from (174.104.129.230)

Posted by:

Calvin

I think one thing our northern and friends across the Atlantic are not clear on is these statues where not put up to honor history of any kind, but to make it clear to black people that they were still in charge.


Entered at Fri Aug 18 16:38:02 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: My Last Post

One of the things I wish about this site is that we are allowed to edit our posts after being sent. I'm on a large radio site here in Toronto and they have no problem with that. Anyway; after re-reading my last post I would like to change my comments on Slavery and Economics. Slavery was in fact the #1 reason for the war; but economics played a part as well. That's what I meant to say. Edit button please. Really? I just tried to insert a smiley face. Site won't let me.


Entered at Fri Aug 18 16:28:15 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Statues and such

I believe the statues should be moved into museums; in the south. Remember in the end this is about history. My wife and i visited Gettysburg a few years back and they had statues of both the North and the South. Lee never fought in Charlottesville by the way. Never lived there. I understand the statue was put up in 1924.

Something that is not being discussed about the Civil War is that slavery was only a part of it. The big reason was economics. The south was making a fortune on cotton. However; why could they make so much money? Slave cheap labour. Both General Lee and General Grant were both great generals. Gettysburg helped me understand the bigger picture. I say again. I don't think the statues should be torn down and thrown away. They should be put into museums in the south and allow teaching to younger people.

BTW Trump talks about taking down statues of Jefferson and Washington; because they were slave owners. Personally I think the founding Fathers of the U.S. should stay. I can't crawl into the heads of those who lived back in the 1700's. Certainly by no means; was it right. But we all now have a few hundred years of hindsight.


Entered at Fri Aug 18 15:24:59 CEST 2017 from (74.12.34.164)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronno

Peter V: "Lee personally disbelieved in both slavery and secession from the Union, but felt ... his honour came above his personal opinions." A troubling ethical calculus, but likely one made by others before and since.

Because we didn't get taught US history until high school, I knew of Lee only vaguely until the Joan Baez version of TNTDODD hit the airwaves. I do, however, have a specific memory of being impressed with him leading his men across a dangerous lava field in the dark, the highlight (as far as the mini-me was concerned circa '63) of a story on him in my family's copy of "The Golden Book of Knowledge, Volume 1". Perhaps there's a plaque at the lava field, which must still exist.


Entered at Fri Aug 18 13:30:44 CEST 2017 from (1.42.8.31)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Sorry Peter, missed the reference. All I remember is the bit about Levon driving Robbie to the library. The right pushes this idea that when it come to morality there are many shades of grey so you cannot make a judgement about anything. There is no difference between the violence of Nazis and those who oppose Nazis. I don't buy it.


Entered at Fri Aug 18 12:30:18 CEST 2017 from (210.86.73.183)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Robert e lee

Peter, I agree with you about Robert E Lee. He comes across a bit like Rommel. An honorable professional solder who was on the wrong side. To be honest I don't know too much about either of those two so apologies for any offence.


Entered at Fri Aug 18 11:56:52 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Wallsend, I'm following Levon's exhortation to Robbie: to treat Robert E. Lee with respect!


Entered at Fri Aug 18 11:32:10 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Incidentally, a solution which was suggested to the Cecil Rhodes one was to move it indoors to a museum space with explanatory signs as to the context. Then it can't be a rallying point anymore, but can be part of a history lesson. It also covers the point that these were made by prominent sculptors at one point, displaying enormous skill so also count as works of art.


Entered at Fri Aug 18 11:23:07 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I was pointing out that Robert E. Lee was "the least of the bad guys." If we were to apply the logic to London (eliminating the politically incorrect) we would only be left with the memorial to the horses and mules killed in WWI in Park Lane.

The issue is far right lunatics using the statues as rallying points, and that's the conundrum. While I hate to agree with some Republican comments, they point out that if you apply the same logic to Mount Rushmore, only Lincoln would survive as Washington and Jefferson were slaveholders. In contrast, Lee freed his slaves.


Entered at Fri Aug 18 11:03:08 CEST 2017 from (1.42.8.31)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I don't think the issue is as complicated as you suggest Peter. Statues of people who defended slavery and which are now rallying points for Nazis should go. Didn't Levon refuse to sing 'Dixie' after 1976 because he thought it was an insult to the South?


Entered at Fri Aug 18 10:48:14 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: There goes Robert E. Lee …

There goes Robert E. Lee. This is a complex one. I’ve been reading the arguments. No, there are no statues of Hitler in Germany. Yes, after the Berlin Wall fell statues of Stalin and Lenin were torn down all over Eastern Europe. On the fall of Saddam, his statues went first.

In 2016, there were moves to remove the statue of Cecil Rhodes at Oxford University. Rhodes founded the Rhodes scholarships and was a benefactor of the university. Eight former Rhodes scholars became heads of state, including Bill Clinton, three Australian PMs and leaders of Jamaica and Pakistan. Rhodes was a colonialist oppressor if ever there was one, but there is the question of context. One comment on the Guardian article last year was:

Cecil Rhodes was a bastard, for sure, but one of the most important skills in life is learning how to deal with bastards, and it's lot easier when they're made out of stone than when they're made out of blood and bone.

But Robert E. Lee? From the article on “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” on this site:

Lee was idolised in the south, and toured around Virginia setting up education for veterans until his death in 1870. Lee had also ensured that the peace treaty included a binding pledge that former soldiers 'would not at any time be disturbed by Federal authority, provided they lay down their arms and returned home.' Lee personally disbelieved in both slavery and secession from the Union, but felt that his people and his honour came above his personal opinions.

Clement Eaton : Robert E. Lee expressed this feeling in a letter of 1856 in which he wrote that the holding of slaves was an evil, but he added that their emancipation would result sooner from the mild and melting influence of time than from the storms and contests of fiery controversy.

During the war, Lee freed quite a few of his family's slaves. Lee felt that the war was God's instrument to end slavery. Lee has also been praised for ordering his troops to surrender once and for all, thus avoiding a protracted guerrilla war that could have gone on for months and years.

Destroying the statues of recently deposed dictators is heat of the moment stuff, and most of us would approve. But a century later? Isn’t that what the Taliban have done in destroying historic sites?

Remember “Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it.”

Then what about those memorials to the Confederate dead in every Southern town? We’ve never gone to the battlefields of Flanders or Normandy and removed the names of the German dead.

BUT these statues do seem to attract crowds of extreme right wing racists and are a focus for them. It is a conundrum, but Robert E. Lee as a historical figure is being demonized. I think Levon would have had robust comments on this!

So if you follow the logic, that any mention of Lee or Jackson is a support for slavery, then next comes a radio ban for “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down.”


Entered at Thu Aug 17 20:12:50 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Girl From The North Country

Peter your link is exceptional. Wonderful concept. I think this is something that Bob would actually appreciate. Bring the whole cast over here!!!


Entered at Thu Aug 17 14:07:12 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Glen Campbell Beach Boys

I was thinking this morning that I hadn't read anything about Glen Campbell's funeral. Turns out he was buried one day; after his death;in his home town of Delight Arkansas. Leave it to the British newspapers to tell me things that I never knew. Turns out that Glen played lead guitar on "I Get Around, Dance Dance Dance and Help Me Rhonda" among other things for the Beach Boys. Brian Wilson was a big fan. I re-watched the documentary I'll Be Me yesterday; with my son. He knew little of Glen Campbell; other than some of his hits. I hope he won't mind me saying this; but watching Glen deal with alzheimer's disease brought tears to his eyes. Also did it for me again as well.

One more time. RIP Glen Campbell. I wish they would re-release his autobiography, Rhinestone Cowboy. I understand it's really good.


Entered at Thu Aug 17 12:52:52 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Tight Connection To My Heart

Ah, they now have a video piece from Girl From The North Country … Sheila Atim on Tight Connection To My heart. She is the pregnant adopted daughter in the play. This how radical the interpretations are in the play. Everything has to fit 1934 musical instruments too.


Entered at Thu Aug 17 12:44:57 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Girl From The North Country

Thanks, Ian. I'll be very surprised if Girl From The North Country (Linked again) doesn't go to Broadway. It will be a hard one, because the cast and band are SO good, but are British. It would be a great shame not to take them, at least the main ones, but while the American accents are very good indeed, a few are not quite perfect, which could be an issue. A lot was created in rehearsal, but I guess it's like other plays created in rehearsal, they are then fixed for subsequent productions. Anyway, it's intrinsically strong enough to survive recasting and moving to America.

I was surprised at some of the negative reactions from the Dylan fanbase. As I pointed out, the highly-experienced theatre critics who gave it five stars are the very top tier of critics, and are very sparing indeed about awarding plays five stars.

You can hear bits on the Old Vic website, but I assume as they were up on the first day that they're rehearsal in an empty theatre. They don't do justice to the effect on the night in a full theatre.

The comments also include bits of "Who's Conor McPherson?" In fact he is a highly-acclaimed and experienced Irish playwright.


Entered at Thu Aug 17 12:35:54 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My politics tutor was American. His special area was Fascism. He said he came to Hull, because in the 1930s, when British Fascist blackshirts paraded through the streets, there were two places where the crowds of ordinary people stopped them: East end of London and Hull. He said he liked the idea of a city that had stopped fascists early on.


Entered at Thu Aug 17 11:04:03 CEST 2017 from (86.159.14.64)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Roseann is absolutely correct. Well done.

I have just finished rereading 'Just One More Dance' by Ernest Levy which tells his story of being taken from his home in Bratislava in the middle of the night and dumped in the countryside, taken from Budapest to Auschwitz, to Birkenau, forced march to Bergen-Belsen, through seven concentration camps, survival and then finally ending up as a Cantor in Glasgow. An horrific story where the teller is compassionate, inspirational and seemingly free from bitterness. He dedicated his life to telling children of his tale and warning of hatred.

I don't understand why there were not mass arrests of the so called white supremacists at the point where they were marching and shouting anti-semitic chants.

But every country has its problems.


Entered at Thu Aug 17 02:36:28 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: 1) Dylan San Jose 65; 2) bass playing; 3) "Girl From The North Country"

Still in the thick of life but I do poke my nose in here from time to time, so a couple of comments:

1) I've had those new Dylan recordings for a short while now and, as I recall, the electric half of San Jose was previously available as Berkeley '65.

2) It's a strange to me that I read something about bass playing here and the name that pops into my head is Ed Faultless, who few will know let alone recall. He played stand-up bass (fingers, of course, giving a thickish, kinda-thunky sound) in the jazz haunts of my youth, mostly pub sessions. Ed Faultless may be a largely unremembered, if memorable, name and I just wanted to put it out there in cyberspace. Friday nights and Sunday lunchtimes at the Palm Court in Richmond, with Dick Morrissey on sax and Ian Hamer on trumpet (deep, deep sighs)!

3) Forget the naysayers elsewhere. Peter's review of "Girl From The North Country", the play at The Old Vic, is the one on the money. Sure, there are elements in the 'story' that will ring a bell but you get a great night out. Don't be put off by the thought that it's a musical - it's not. While only some of the songs are complete, the extracts are used effectively, some from more than one song. I got the impression that changes suggested by the cast in rehearsal were adopted which, if I'm right, is significant because the play is so much an ensemble piece. The acting is of a high standard, the musical arrangements are terrific, the singing is great and, as you already know, the songs are, too. I know many of you live far away from London but, if you get a chance to go, grab it. Even my wife, not the world's biggest Dylan fan, was extremely complimentary - and she's never wrong.


Entered at Thu Aug 17 02:01:59 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.25)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Nazi

I can imagine the excited stand-up cheers of an entire audience viewing a movie or newsreel of 1934 Germany if a group of Jewish citizens attacked a goose stepping throng of nazis. Cheered without any equivocation about who was more wrong. The most discouraging aspect though is that the nazi crowd in Charlottesville may only be the tip of an iceberg that widens as it goes down to include up to 30% of Americans. I hope not.


Entered at Thu Aug 17 00:19:32 CEST 2017 from (171.25.193.77)

Posted by:

David J.

I am extremely blessed to have grown up on the tail end of the "Generation of love" (70's)... I can still hear The Band's "Rock of Ages", just to name one of their many discs, playing in my head. I still have the disc but my turntable bit the dust years ago, plus I have a recently adopted rescue dog who isn't quite ready for the sonic assault of my volume level. Any, perhaps someday she will be introduced to the once in a lifetime magic, that was the original 'The Band' I knew and love.. Our prayers go out to those who suffered at Charlottsburg and anywhere else at the hands or voices of those who hate, God will deal with them justly. ...It is mine to repay sayith The Lord. P.S I didn't vote for him!


Entered at Wed Aug 16 23:22:58 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Great comment from Roseanne. Absolutely right. Nazi is not a word that should be bandied about and has often been exaggerated, In this case, it's accurate.


Entered at Wed Aug 16 17:54:25 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bob, yes, I read that & LOVED it yesterday. Ro is aces.


Entered at Wed Aug 16 17:24:53 CEST 2017 from (100.34.127.122)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love

Subject: Danko and picks

Rick Danko played bass usually with his fingers, until the '74 tour where he broke his hand I believe around the NYC show.. From that point on, he played with a pick.


Entered at Wed Aug 16 16:36:51 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Tears of Rage

Jeff, and anyone else who might be interested. Something my daughter wrote yesterday I think cuts to the bone. She linked this with Vice's video from this past weekend.

"I am not a religious person, but there is nothing quite like watching a nazi scream they want you and your family dead to remind you of your jewish descent. I watched Vice’s “Charlottesville: Race and Terror” and I felt terrified. I’ve spent my life fighting for gun control because of people like the speaker for the alt-right, pulling out all of his guns and saying more of us will die. These are the people who PASS the mental health checks to purchase guns. Never in my lifetime did I think I would have a “at least I have my dad’s last name” moment and I was so angry that these people made me afraid. How can I be a good ally if I am scared? Then I thought about the rally I attended last night. So many beautiful people fighting for each other, who were moved to get on trains and buses and skip after work dinners to stand outside Trump Tower and say they won’t stand for this. It wasn’t the first and it certainly won’t be the last and these are the places you remember that there is so many of us fighting for what is good that there’s no way we will lose. I urge everyone to watch the video if you’re feeling strong enough. I totally understand if you feel you can’t stomach it these days. I especially want to urge the people in my life who don’t understand why we march and rally and fundraise. The ones who don’t believe racism is a real problem in this country. The ones who see black people and hispanic people and muslim people and transgender people as “other.” The thing that scares me about the alt-right movement is that I’ve heard some of this language from people that would never in a million years consider themselves a white supremacist. This is not a republican or democrat issue, neither group seems to have our best interest at heart, but I will say I think the conservative party has been slipping in these ideas for as long as I can remember. Wanting to control women’s bodies, wanting to control who can marry who, wanting to keep the jail systems as lucrative as ever, using undocumented citizens as scape goats, turning black lives matter into some kind of hate group..these are all forms of control that have led us to this. This country has done a great job of making all of us white people racist, it’s our job to undo it. As for me, this Jew plans to churn out even MORE media “we control this shit right?”, go to even more rallies, and to take that fear and turn it into power."


Entered at Wed Aug 16 16:03:16 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Since Twitler started running for President of the U.S. I've stated that he is a Nazi, & that anyone who supports him is a Nazi or minimally a Nazi supporter. Yesterday he removed any doubt from anyone's mind. He is a Nazi, & anyone who supports him, , even those Jews who do, is a Nazi or minimally a Nazi sympathizer ( if that doesn't make you a Nazi).

I'd like to believe that the U.S. can eat this scourge that's been growing within & now is endorsed & promoted as a valid political force by the President . Some experts state ( & have been since Jan 20) that Twitler & co have disbanded the agencies & departments that have been combating this movement & these groups & our ability to do so is almost depleted. I don't know, but if so, hope it can be quickly restored....But it's obviously more important than ever to get him out , & & Pence, Ryan, McConnell,Sessions etc etc....Hopefully we make it .. Mueller is likely a year to two away from having a full legal package tied in a bow. Only hundreds of miracles get us that far...


Entered at Wed Aug 16 12:01:51 CEST 2017 from (50.199.225.241)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Pick AND finger

Depends on the song.


Entered at Wed Aug 16 11:49:33 CEST 2017 from (1.42.8.31)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I see a couple of Dylan concerts from December 1965 in San Francisco and San Jose have been posted on Youtube. I don't know enough about Dylan recordings to know if these are actually newly circulating tapes or not but they may be of interest.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 23:13:07 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: To pick it or finger it

An old friend e-mailed me:

Look at the long-disappeared 'finger rest’ that all Fender basses shipped with into the 70s. Most players took them off immediately along with the pickup covers. The idea was that you curled your right-hand fingers under the rest in order to get more leverage for plucking with the thumb - thus producing a meaty thud which was obviously Leo Fender’s approved tone.

But one of the sensational things about Leo’s invention from the get-go was the hitherto-unheard sounds to be made by playing an electric bass with a pick.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 21:10:11 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.25)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bass Fiddle

Ever see anybody play stand up bass with a pick? I think Jr Brown uses metal finger picks on his Telecaster section, is that common?


Entered at Tue Aug 15 17:24:10 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I remember those felt bass picks. I thought they were designed for players who picked from choice, but wanted a softer fingered sound for some songs. I'm sure I had one once. They didn't really work that well.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 15:19:39 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Pick

I commented years ago how Rick Danko used a pick a "lot". Many pictures he is using a pick. Many years ago, (I haven't seen them in a long time) there was thick felt picks that were somehow made quite ridged for bass guitars.

I remarked way back about Rick using a pick because a fellow who played bass for me back in the 80's used a pick a lot. Jimmy Ryan his name was. His Dad was a black man and a music teacher. Very strict, he taught Jimmy bass. H e would teach him bass runs then he would take a string off the guitar and make him play the same things again until he only had one string left and make him do it over and over.

Jimmy's attack with a pick, or that thumb pull caused him to break a lot of strings but it never bothered him or made any difference. He was one of the best bass players I've known.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 14:12:01 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Isn't there a shift on the size of the lineup? If a bass player is in a loud three-piece there is a need for a more cutting, aggressive sound. BTW, the online discussions add Mr Danko as one who mainly used fingers, but sometimes used a pick.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 14:08:45 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: bass picks

Even then in my teens the boxes of picks had a section for "bass picks" - which were thicker. Looking on line now, you can get a "Lemmy" one if so inclined. Obviously fingers mean you can use different fingers on the right hand for different strings. If you want a hard percussive sound for a number, don't you go for bridge pickup and a pick?

There's quite a debate about it on line with people saying "real bass players don't use picks" and "it looks like a beginner." BUT bass players known to have used a pick at least some of the time include Paul McCartney, John Wetton, Roger Waters, Chris Squire, John Lodge, Noel Redding, Phil Lesh, Mike Mills. Some Carole Kaye images look like a pick. I looked at John Entwistle and it's mainly fingers, but sometimes pick. Same with John McVie … and with pick in fingers, he's right up near the bridge. With fingers, he's more central. I always thought the choice was part of the repertoire.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 14:02:00 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: To pick or not to pick

Of late I play with a pick. A rather heavy one, Jim Dunlap "lozenge" style, kind of looks like a vaguely triangular cough drop. My late lamented lead man turned me on to them. While at times I have played with fingers (never got the hang of that funk thumb thing) the pick allows a little extra punch or attack that is hard to get with the fingers and IMHO allows me to be a bit more aggressive and audible over the guitars and drums without increasing the volume. I first switched to pick (or plectrum, if you prefer) in the New Wave era when bass was prominent. Think Graham Maby with Joe Jackson. Does not Sir Paul play with a pick on occasion?


Entered at Tue Aug 15 13:24:40 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Most bass players I know would use both, alternating pic and fingers, depending on the effect wanted. I was amazed that a NY arranger in 1967 had never seen a bass guitarist use a pic. The Bert Berns book has had me listening to the two Ace CDs on Bert Berns in the songwriter series. The genius touch is clear as it hovers over such diverse artistes, but listening to Hang On Sloopy by The McCoys, Brown Eyed Girl by Van, and Erma Thomas on Piece of My Heart you can hear one intelligence running through. Van complained that he didn't like the tight arrangements with the session guys too.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 13:20:02 CEST 2017 from (174.104.129.230)

Posted by:

Calvin

I was born around the time the book you referenced came out. And I, and nobody I knew, ever played Bass with a pick or even heard of anyone doing do so.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 12:28:21 CEST 2017 from (219.89.10.42)

Posted by:

Rod

I don't play bass that much these days but always use my fingers. I always found a pick quite difficult. Only prob is that you can get some nasty blisters if you don't practice enough. I have a sunburnt Ripper and an Ampeg copy..both with flat wounds


Entered at Tue Aug 15 10:09:23 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Picking

David P recommended “Here Comes The Night” by Joel Selvin, subtitled The Dark Soul of Bert Berns & The Dirty Business of Rhythm and Blues. I’ve been reading it a few pages at a time for about a year. He really knows stuff about Mob involvement and the NY songwriting and production of the 60s.

There are odd things I don’t get. He says that the studio session for Van’s Brown Eyed Girl had Eric Gale switching to bass guitar and playing it with a flat pick … that’s just an ordinary plectrum, isn’t it? It says the arranger had never seen anyone play bass guitar with a flat pick before. What? 1967? We all learned to play bass with a pick in 1962-1963. It was the default action. That’s what Shirley Douglas’s bass tutor “Easy Guide to Rhythm & Blues for The Bass Guitar” taught. We had great admiration for those who were able to manage with fingers only. The book was as influential as Bert Weedon’s “Play In A Day” for British guitarists. Part of its charm was the photo of Shirley playing a Fender PB while wearing a ballgown on the cover. She’s next to Chas McDevitt holding a Strat. It was published by “Beatnik Music.”

The book has priceless moments like a mobster smashing a Martin guitar over Van Morrison's head for effing and blinding at him.

It also makes me wonder about backstage TLW … Van Morrison and Neil Diamond had much shared history with Bert Berns.You'd imagine they would have had a lot to talk about.


Entered at Tue Aug 15 04:53:24 CEST 2017 from (173.239.240.71)

Posted by:

Calvin

Well Bob, everyone from the scene back then told me stories about Rachel being such a sweet kid, and having a dad who was made the stereotypical demanding stage parent seem like sweet person. AS one person who had some success of their own said to me, "Dick was well named".

As for Hynde, while she was in a shortlived band with Mark Mothersbaugh of Devo in the very early 1970, (And by shortlived I mean the played out once) all of her success came post Akron. In fact while she was part of the scene at the time, she was more or less considered Terry's little sister. Terry Hynde's sax has been a mainstay of the Numbers Band since around 1970. Local Legends really.


Entered at Mon Aug 14 23:13:13 CEST 2017 from (72.9.3.20)

Posted by:

Olivia

Location: Southern Maryland

Subject: Tura-Lura-Lural (That's An Irish Lullaby)

What are the notes to play this song on the penny whistle? Also I really enjoyed your notations on the tune.


Entered at Mon Aug 14 22:04:26 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Calvin, looking forward to your book on the Akron music scene. We saw The Pretenders and Rachel Sweet their first time through New York. I remember The Pretenders played a club in White Plains called oddly enough Detroit's. They were amazing. The original line up was killer. Rachel Sweet played The Bottom Line. My wife and I loved that first record. Played the grooves off of it. We went down and saw the early and late show first night. I remember being disappointed. I don't think she was ready yet for that kind of showcase. It was quite a buzz around her. I remember reading Springsteen showed up the 2nd night.


Entered at Mon Aug 14 11:16:54 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Delighted to see Todd, Calvin and Glen back. Great news about the book, Calvin.

Three day weeks … yes, it’s the same here, John. Doctors, chiropractors, osteopaths … they all seem to be putting health before wealth and switching to 3 day weeks as they get older. My current doctor’s doing it in his 40s.


Entered at Mon Aug 14 05:24:02 CEST 2017 from (173.239.240.71)

Posted by:

Calvin

Appreciate the notice of my popping in. Been really busy the last year and just turned in my fifth book, and first on music, on The "Akron Sound".

Its essentially about the Punk/New Wave Movement in Akron 1975-1985 that spawned Devo, Chrissie Hynde, Rachel Sweet, The Waitresses, Jane Aire and bands who got a major record release or two but never broke through like The Rubber City Rebels, The Bizarros, Tin Huey, The Numbers Band and Unit 5.

Very excited to finally publish a book on music.


Entered at Mon Aug 14 03:41:47 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V

Peter, my doctors are all retiring; or going on three day weeks.


Entered at Mon Aug 14 03:01:38 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A good look

Todd! If you've a mind to, email me sometime. I'll reply with some pictures of the big boat so you can have a look at her.

tsolum666atgeemaildotcom


Entered at Sun Aug 13 16:08:23 CEST 2017 from (32.216.237.109)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Live Music - Amy Helm

One of the things that I've missed out on over the last year or so has been live music.
Have been trying to make up for it lately, and have seen Amy Helm a few times over the last couple of months. She's been introducing some new songs into her set including some originals.

One of the newer songs, 'Cotton and the Cane', seems to draw from her life experiences, growing up as Levon's daughter, and is pretty damn poignant, as well as being a fine piece of songwriting. It's not sugarcoated, but is full of honest emotion. Here are a few lines of lyrics:

"I’m the daughter of a sharecropper’s son
Tilling the soil, of my father’s memories
Sacred fields of dirt and pain
Holding tight to what remains
The cotton and the cane"

"Kind hearts and compromises
Santa Claus, cheap disguises
Cigarettes, ash tray fires
Chin to the chest, doing our best
Breakdowns, always wanting more"

There's a YouTube clip at the link above with one of her recent performances. Cindy Cashdollar has been appearing with Amy recently and adds some nice slide work.


Entered at Sun Aug 13 11:47:54 CEST 2017 from (86.159.197.148)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Good to hear from you Glenn, Todd and Calvin.

The site with the John Byrne is really good, Peter, Thanks. I had never seen the Donovan cover. Changed my mind and went to the Edinburgh Festival yesterday. Took my grandson and saw a great show - three Australian guys with wheelie bins exploring Variety techniques - hat routines, balancing, comedy, juggling, mime etc. Strong, physical actors and fast moving.

That's true, Bill M. But John Byrne as well as being a great artist, is a decent writer too. He's a national treasure up here. But I'm delighted that Bob got the big prize.

I was thinking too about people we had lost from the GB. Many seemed too soon gone. On Friday I played Joe Cocker, Peter Paul and Mary, Leonard Cohen and 'A Hard Day's Night'. Sadly missed artists. I also miss Michael Marra and John Martyn concerts.


Entered at Sun Aug 13 06:09:40 CEST 2017 from (32.216.237.109)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Norm, glad to hear that your keeping things ship-shape. Boats can be a lot of work, but also provide a lot of enjoyment.

One of the boats that I used to do the bottom painting on was an old wooden boat, lapstrake type construction. That thing leaked like a sieve, but every spring the owner would have me jamming some cotton into any especially wide gaps between the boards. Guess it worked, cause it never sank on my watch, but that bilge pump ran all the time!

Peter V. Congrats on the birth of your grandchild, and and turning 70. Sounds like quite a party with many of your old musical cohorts


Entered at Sat Aug 12 14:02:55 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks for that about JT, John. I was looking forward to meeting him one day. Yes, so many gone. My doctor, three years younger than me is another one this year.


Entered at Sat Aug 12 10:26:27 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

It Makes No Difference was used in an episode of I'm Dying Up Here. Season One, Episode 9, titled Lingchi.


Entered at Sat Aug 12 02:09:07 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill M

I really don't know Bill. Jimmy & Dash never mentioned him to me. Of course Seals & Crofts were not in the original Champs that recorded Tequila; as you know Bill. A number of musicians went through that band.


Entered at Sat Aug 12 01:39:47 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

" He did well with chord charts, though, did some great guitar solos and was fantastic on the record dates." is a quote from that article on Campbell.... and that's the key to alot..... so many sessions, you go in with charts and the melody and inherent melody & groove of the song. The players feel their parts & the instrumental.........if it's a band, well, it's a band, but if it;s not, the songwriter/producer, or the songwriter or the producer, or both of em, are choosing players for their ability to feel every aspect of the song- through the changes and lyrics and the form ( and may have to guide em but usually not)........ the same goes for the guitarists, drummer, the bassist, the pianist etc etc......there ae musciains who understand what a song is, and there are those who never will.... there are people who are music. You might not know it from the rest of their life. but........... and in many cases not many people ever hear of them. But........


Entered at Fri Aug 11 20:26:23 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

John D: I recall you being chums with Seals and Crofts back in the '70s. Were they still in the Champs when Glen Campbell passed through?

I suspect that Campbell's first trip to Toronto was as a Beach Boy in the mid-'60s. A photo of him with bandmates graced a CHUM chart of the time.

I don't think anyone's mentioned "Dreams Of The Everyday Housewife", which is in my memory bank as the first song I heard by him on radio. I also have a vague recollection of seeing him and a short-haired John Hartford doing "Gentle On My Mind" together on TV back then.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 19:58:27 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Wrevking Crew Mates Carol Kaye & James Burton on Glen Campbell

You may gave to click on Skip Ad to get to the article.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 19:53:06 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V / Dunc: Byrne, Escher, Picasso - none of those guys won a Nobel Prize like the guy who did the Band's first album cover.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 17:57:46 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Digit of The Man in Black

If someone is posting spam, Johnny Cash's finger is the perfect reply. If regular people want to post sensible links then Jan provides a key. It seems perfectly fair to me. As it goes, I've been listening to Johnny Cash "The Legend" all day today.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 17:11:40 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: 2012 Levon Tribute

Dunno if I posted this before, but I saw it again just now. It's Simone Felice in Dublin, a few days after Levon died, and has a wonderful tribute before he goes into his own Radio Song. I was lucky to hear him do a similar tribute on the same tour, but we got I Shall Be released.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 17:02:17 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Todd & Calvin & other sundry nonsense

I just dropped in....to see what condition my condition was in!

Holy smoke, I was thinking about you just the other day Todd as I worked on the Rockin Chair. A quite a bit of fibreglassing to do. Sanding and Painting, and I'm down to the bright work. Hope to be finished in a couple of days and get away for a cruise. Thank you for the congrats. Good to hear from you to Calvin.

As to the two Morons with bad hair cuts, (definitely a good analogy). These are two loose cannons. It seems to me that the US, and South Korea are like two boys at a pond poking an alligator with a stick. They keep flying these planes over the Korean Peninsula, right in his face. To what end? They know it drives him crazy...er! Why not do their exercises some where else?

Now, Japan says if North Korea fires these missels they will just shoot them down. Well, why even say it why not just do it to show the North Korean nut it's just a waste of time.

In our day and age it is amazing to me that men who are supposed to be "LEADERS" of countries who should be teaching their people to live in harmony with compassion for others have to act like spoiled fucking brats.

This Trump loonie tries to operate as if this whole thing is one big reality TV show. I talked to a guy from Boise, Idaho with a big yacht tied up across from me the other day. He says to me "Trump tells it like it is." I said, "Do you believe that? The man is a pathological gawd damn liar!" Needless to say we didn't have a lot to talk about.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 16:10:19 CEST 2017 from (83.249.164.129)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Webmaster's negative attitude

One of the reasons I don't post here ragularly any more is the negative attitude of the webmaster. The latest example of this is the well-known middle-finger pic on the late Mr. Cash. Some of you may think this is just funny. I don't think so. Mr Hoiberg is showing the middle finger to the memory of Mr. Cash and showing the middle finger to the contributors. Norwegians in common are not known to have this negative attitude. In fact, my dearest neighbours here in Sweden are just Norwegians.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 15:21:05 CEST 2017 from (83.249.164.129)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: My ol' ticker

On a personal plan I'd like to tell that after the driving licence for an eighteen wheeler and an examination for coastal skipper I am taking lessons for a flight certificate - if the doctor says that my ol' ticker is OK... but it is still capable to do "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" on banjo so what more is needed!?

If I crash in to the North Sea please write something nice. Thanks.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 14:58:17 CEST 2017 from (83.249.164.129)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Glenn Cambell

Yes, I remember Mr. Cambell with a manly and moderate love. In fact, when I took my driving licence for an "eighteen wheeler" I strummed his song constantly with my back in sweat!

Back in the seventies country legends from Wembley Arena Country Festival - or whatever the title was - visited even Nordic Countries. I've seen them all in a cold ice hockey arena from Boxcar Willie via Loudon Wainwrigth III to Barbie Benton. I sat in the first row when she sang and looked directly to my --- eerrrr --- big eyes ;-)


Entered at Fri Aug 11 14:52:12 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Interesting Modern Drummer piece by Bronx Boy Ralph Rolle, the drummer from Chic. He grew up in the Bronx River Houses, the projects. Of interest to some will be his first meetings with Steve Gadd. A good story. Of interest to others will be one of his early learning techniques..


Entered at Fri Aug 11 14:22:09 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: People passing away

I just wanted to mention that if you want to, you have to go to Youtube and watch Alice Cooper's 11:00 minute commentary; on his very best friend Glen Campbell. His comments are truly moving. He refers to Glen as one of the top 5 guitar players in the world.

Also I really wanted to attempt to tell you about JT's last email to me; but every time I try, I get the Johnny Cash finger. I can't remember; when I reported Jerry's death; that he did survive the surgery to his heart; but had a stroke a few days later. It was a simple tread mill test that gave his doctor's the warning signs. He was thankful for that and picked his own surgeon; who did an excellent job. No one could foresee the stroke. I was honoured that he wrote me about his upcoming surgery; as he was a very private person and he hadn't told anyone outside of the family and asked me not to post anything. That he would report back; on the site; when it was over. Sadly he didn't get that opportunity. I'm feeling a little melancholy this morning. I know I am not unique in this situation; but I'm just losing too many friends over the last few years. As my Father once told me, "Son, no one gets out of this world alive." So true.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 13:04:50 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: John Byrne album sleeves

He was featured in the recent Billy Connolly TV programme, painting a new portrait of Billy. This was a couple of weeks ago. Should still be on BBC iPlayer,


Entered at Fri Aug 11 13:01:54 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: John Byrne album sleeves

Link is to "Tartan Rocker" blog with images of John Byrne sleeve designs. You can have a pleasant long browse looking at these.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 12:46:53 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, John Byrne's covers are great. There are also ones like Mott The Hoople's first LP on Island (M.C. Escher painting) and a 7" EP of The Lonely Bull by Herb Alpert which is a Picasso.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 11:57:47 CEST 2017 from (86.159.14.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: John Byrne

My favourite album covers are done by John Byrne - Stealers Wheel, Billy Connolly and he also painted Gerry Rafferty's guitar. A Paisley cafe had them on show.

But I felt disappointed when I found out he lost out to Peter Blake over the design for what became the Beatles' White Album. I find this cover boring. Although I really like Sergeant Peppers' album cover.

His design was later used for a later compilation album called the Beatles' Ballads, but this wasn't released in the States. Beautiful cover. Sorry I can't link it.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 10:19:50 CEST 2017 from (210.86.75.38)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Glen campbell

As a pre teen Glen Campbell was my first hero before I moved to bigger things like Albert Hammond and Neil diamond and ultimately The Band (A bit of a jump there). Been interesting reading the comments on Jimmy Webb. I can't help thinking that the day of the great song writer is over. Sure there Will be some good songs still to be written but nothing with the impact of TNTDODD or even Galveston.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 10:14:28 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I like Naturally and Reckless Abandon cover art … and the albums. There's a good version of "What A Town" on Reckless Abandon. At the time, the manager of a local record store had a stack of T-shirts made up with the J.J. Cale "Really" logo on them. I guess he had a record company promo one and had it copied. I bought two I liked it so much. Unfortunately in those days promo-T-shirts were made for one off events like stag parties and hen parties and were thin cheap cotton, so neither of mine survived long.

I have two runs of five framed sleeves. The first run is West Coast and chosen for the art. After Bathing At Baxters, It's A Beautiful Day. Happy Trails by Quicksilver Messenger Service. Wow by Moby Grape … US sleeve, as the UK one had text all over the picture. Cheap Thrills.

The set of five by the DVDs are soundtracks. Some Like It Hot, Cleopatra (Liz Taylor), Far From The Madding Crowd (painting of Julie Christie), Wizard of Oz (1955 LP) and Custer of The West (fabulous painting).

I switch them from time to time.

The West Coast replaced a set with Sergeant Pepper, We're Only In It For The Money (Sgt Pepper side) and a Japanese synth version of Sgt Pepper where they were painted looking the other way. Plus "The Fool" and 5000 Spirits by Incredible String Band. Decided it was all too bright when we changed the room.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 06:30:39 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.113)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Framed album covers

I've got JJ Cale's first one Naturally, David Bromberg's Reckless Abandon and the Brown Album framed, also a poster sized "High Lonesome", all in full view. Not relegated to the garage where I've seen some pretty good ones at friend's through the years. The Brown Album is there because it's my all time fave. The others, although I love the music and still listen regularly, are there for the artwork, just my personal taste.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 04:00:10 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Nice to see both Calvin and Todd checking in.

Peter V: It wasn't as easy as I thought it would be to find the 'right' cover on the internet. Then I did, but Johnny Proctologist won't let me provide a link to it - a tall daisy in front of a blue concrete wall. Funny that you mentioned album covers with wide white borders versus the image going right to the edge. I was going to note yesterday that my first copy of the Barber LP had a white border (I think because it was the Canadian release on Quality) whereas the one on my wall was an upgrade - no border and in better condition - and it's the US release on Laurie. Glad you found it and like it, anyway.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 03:36:21 CEST 2017 from (70.121.56.235)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: DC bully

I think John Lennon put it very well in his song Crippled Inside. "You can shine your shoes and wear a suit; You can comb your hair and look quite cute. You can hide your face behind a smile. One thing you can't hide Is when you're crippled inside." Trump is a thoroughly dishonest individual with no regard or respect for anything or anyone other than himself. We can only pray that his words and actions energize folks in the US and elsewhere to stand up for what is right and honest; to fight for unity and inclusiveness; to embrace kindness and courtesy; and to act with grace and dignity. He has not shown the least bit of ability or interest in expressing those qualities.

I feel sorry for him. What a burden it must be to think the world revolves around him, and that he can so casually call people names, distort or ignore the truth, and make promises that he doesn't intend to fulfill. He can't even play a round of golf without cheating.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 03:33:00 CEST 2017 from (174.232.139.97)

Posted by:

Calvin

Ive seen both Campbell and Webb recently, Webb during the last few months. Glen a few years ago. Webb was lucky to have the relationship with Campbell he did. Not that he isn't talented, just not amazing stage charisma.

I seem to remember Garfunkel doing him justice as well.


Entered at Fri Aug 11 01:23:55 CEST 2017 from (32.216.230.14)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Checking In

Hey Band friends. Long absence on my end. Have a lot of catching up to do. Wanted to say how sorry I was to hear about the passing of David P, JTull Fan, and more recently JT.

Learned a lot about music from David P's posts, and appreciated his love of vinyl and the Allman Brothers. I recently found an original Brown album with the lime green label and "RL" carved into the dead wax, which is a particular pressing that David frequently championed. Great sounding record.

I never met JTull Fan in person, but I feel like we lived somewhat of a parralel existence growing up in southern Connecticut in the New Haven area. We only found out about it in retrospect, but were faurly close in age, and both frequented the West Haven Yankees AAA ballpark as kids and ate at many of the same great New Haven area apizza  restaurants. Through the guest book, he turned me on to Zuapardi's in West Haven which was one of his neighborhood favorites growing up. I've been there a bunch of times since then, and he was right.....good quality pie.

We also shared stories about seeing The Band in the 1990's at a club called "The Sting" in New Britain, CT. A tough town that was at one time known as the hardware capitol of the world. I'm sure that we were at some of the same shows back then, but just didn't know it at the time as it was pre-GB days.

Dr. Jerry was a class act, and I loved hearing about his experiences seeing the Hawks in the early days at the Concord Tavern. I also appreciated his enthusiasm for Dylan and keeping an open mind about his newer work.
JT, David & Ed will be missed. Sorry that I'm so late to comment.

And finally, for now, congratulations to Norm on his retirement. Of course that big wooden boat he bought is a full-time job, but I'm sure he's up to the task....no stranger to hard work, that fellow.

Thanks to Kevin J. for the shout-out. I haven't stayed away on purpose. Life just got busier than normal for a variety of reasons, and I had to realign some priorities.

I've probably missed a lot, so I'll have to do a little more scrolling back to get caught up.


Entered at Thu Aug 10 23:42:04 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.113)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Our hero Trump

What a state for the world now: 2 morons with bad haircuts threatening total destruction - the possibility of an over excited mishap seems one possible outcome. And of course our right-wing is yelling about Neville Chamberlin again - diplomacy is appeasement!!


Entered at Thu Aug 10 23:26:27 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Politiks

Why doesn't this swaggering braggart of a bully realize that threatening the North Koreans is like trying to have a logical conversation with Jim Jones as he distributed the Kool Aid in Guyana:?


Entered at Thu Aug 10 11:45:44 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

That's a great Chris Barber album sleeve, Bill. It wasn't on any British release and I'd never seen it before. The jazz ones I took down included Terry Lightfoot's "Tradition in Colour" also a painting. You normally see the reissue with a large white border, but I found the original HMV LP without the border (Link to picture). It's an interesting album in that Joe Meek recorded it, and the drummer was a young Ginger Baker.


Entered at Thu Aug 10 10:20:46 CEST 2017 from (86.159.14.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks Jeff and Bob F.

I regularly play Isaac Hayes' version of 'By The Time I Get To Phoenix'. At over 18 minutes long, I remember some writer's quote from back in the day that 'By the time he finished the song, he could have made it to the place.'

Normally, I can't abide long(er) tracks now. There are several exceptions - I also like the live version of 'Reeling In The Years' for example.

I feel I wasted part of my youth sitting through drum solos. Aagh!


Entered at Thu Aug 10 03:41:49 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: My one and only framed LP cover is "Petite Fleur" by Chris Barbers's Jazz Band (Laurie 1001). I just went and looked at it - gorgeous and puzzlingly moving. (I'm not the only person puzzled over the 40 years I've had it.)


Entered at Thu Aug 10 02:00:18 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Something else to sompare time wise- the luxury of the time. As i've repeatedly said, that late 50s to late 70s period was a vortex of social, technological, political, & economic abundance/whirlwind. Look at the luxury of having a hit song in The Poor Side of Town so not being able to release By The Time I Get To Phoenix as a single... And that was common.... No one got to worry about that today....


Entered at Wed Aug 9 23:59:25 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Good info Bob, it sure sounds like a publishing deal. When you say signed- in what capacity? It was very likely a publishing deal. What was of value to Rivers were Webb's songs ( even if Webb was also signed as an artist)... It all come backs to two things: great songs, & the publishing value of great songs. As an artist, Rivers also just had interest in a great song getting recorded again, & heard more, but it sounds as if he also was the publisher or owned at least a piece of the publishing.

So my point was: there are SOME RARE songwriters with songs as good as By The Time I get To Phoenix today, that don't have a prayer of getting em heard by business people with the ability to make em smash hits...& the main reason is the money ain't there. Also, there aren't as many of those songs today, or as many writers as good as in ages past- & one reason is it often takes time to get that good, & even if you're that good in an instant, not having the ability to make a living at it - most- not ALL- BUT MOST PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO COME TO THEIR SENSE & JUST GO MAKE A LIVING- AS A MESSENGER, A STOCkBROKER, A CUPCAKE BAKER, OR A POSTAL WORKER MAIL CARRIER, or real estate sales person or lawyer, SOME KEEP WRITING TOO....aLL THE CAPS were a mistake typo, & I'm too lazy to fix em...


Entered at Wed Aug 9 23:41:47 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Jimmy Webb was signed to Johnny Rivers Music company. Johnny Rivers did the first recording of By The Time I Get To Phoenix. His version in my opinion is also a masterpiece. Like Elvis or Willie's version of Always On My Mind. Greatness on Greatness. At that time Johnny Rivers was having a monster hit with Poor Side Of Town and wasn't planning on releasing Phoenix as a single.. He knew Glenn Campbell from some session work and it was Johnny Rivers who brought the song to his attention and suggested he record it. This is from the Jimmy Webb memoir I had mentioned this morning.


Entered at Wed Aug 9 22:43:17 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

The Webb/ Campbell relationship, & one posters one sided & erroneous presentation, how it was a feather in Campbell's cap that Webb chose him to record some of his best songs (i'd bet it started with publishers) , put this in my mind.... What the average person usually doesn't get in the discussion about the various losses or negative impacts that the digital realm has had upon MUSIC, as opposed to just the MUSIC INDUSTRY is the relationship between availability of money to be earned & quality. I'm going to just be real brief, and direct to the point i want to make and not get into what i have discerned about the intricacies & details. I do want to make the point that I am aware by the time cds came along, by the time Napster came along, many labels stopped investing much in anything but sure things or formula music. the amount of quality music getting made had dropped, but there still was plenty. It wasn't yet a desert..

But here's a real big thing, & that's the job of a publisher. Songwriters don't have the time or necessarily the ability to do this, the chutzpah, or necessarily the access. There used to be armies of song pushers. It's the job of the publisher to get songs heard.. Publishers used to get up to have the royalties for that, maybe 100% of the publishing. They paid advances against it..... sometimes they just paid salaries. Today publishers might only get half the publishing, or they might get less- just a administration fee, which is very negotiable... But to think that the average person, or even a songwriter that has a good reputation and heavy credits and reviews can just walk up to artists he or she knows and easily get songs heard and considered is not necessarily correct. And you have to realize that by exposing songs before they are published a songwriter may both get his / her distinctly original songs ripped off with in legal limits.

The general scaling down of the publishing industry is the result of the inability of publishers to make money today. Digital copying, streaming, downloading, has killed em. Publishers can't make money on sales of hard copies, not even downloads anymore, or on airplay...

And if you watch film, tv, cable tv, commercials, you'll see all the various ways USERS are avoiding various fees- such as sync fees on original recordinggs. You hear tons of cover versions of classic songs


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Never saw Glen Campbell nor Jimmy Webb. Great songs.

Thanks, Lisa. Must be two only...


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Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: The Cake And The Rain

Jimmy Webb's memoir is really good. His greatest songs just have that magic about them.


Entered at Wed Aug 9 09:48:15 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Glen Campbell

Link to my 2011 review. That was billed as the Farewell Tour, though there is a new album too. He has lasted six years then, but he looked physically well in 2011, and could still joke on stage. He is a very good example of live charisma. He sounded wonderful in the hall, but a few months later, after my review, I heard a section from Brighton - same gig … on radio and it sounded pretty rough.


Entered at Wed Aug 9 07:06:21 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.72)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Actually JQ, that's a two way street. Jimmy Webb is fortunate Glenn Campbell interpreted/performed Webb's songs. How that happened, I'm unaware. If Webb knew of Campbell, & sought him out, or his publisher or label began the association.


Entered at Tue Aug 8 23:18:03 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.113)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Jimmy Webb

It's a further accolade to Glenn Campbell that the great songwriter Jimmy Webb chose him to perform some of his best works -


Entered at Tue Aug 8 23:04:37 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Glen Campbell - very sorry to hear it. He had Alzheimers but coped well on stage, surrounded by his family. From the Folkswingers to The Wrecking Crew to The Beach Boys to solo star!


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham

Subject: RIP The Rhinestone Cowboy

Glen Campbell dies at the age of 81.


Entered at Tue Aug 8 19:55:04 CEST 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Well, you hear "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" lots of times when people are discussing the ins and outs of a situation.


Entered at Tue Aug 8 18:51:50 CEST 2017 from (86.159.14.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Language

I read an interesting article in one of our national newspapers a few weeks back relating to an environmental issue.

What was interesting was that the young writer used the phrase 'paved paradise, put up a parking lot'. I've seen the Joni term used before.

I thought it great that a line from a song, that many of my age group love, has entered the language in common usage.

What other examples are there of this?


Entered at Tue Aug 8 18:44:23 CEST 2017 from (86.159.14.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Wallsend. Enjoyed the clip.

Great value for the Sandy Denny and Fairport. I followed Sandy Denny at the time. Maybe her solo albums could be more consistent, but brilliant at times. I still think the first three albums that she appeared on with Fairport are great. It's a great buy that Peter's flagging up, if you don't have them.

Interesting decor, Peter. How about a two tone album for black and white? Wasn't The Selector a great album cover?

I was at an art exhibition on Friday on the other side of the country, by one of Scotland's leading contemporary artists, He's in his seventies and a great Dylan fan - was at the Edinburgh 1966 Electric show. Many paintings in the show, including three great ones related to Dylan, including the one on Expecting Rain website with Alan Ginsberg in the background.

Bob F. Too true, Great act live if you ever saw Joe live. I tried to stream documentary on Amazon, but it didn't have it. Would like to see the documentary. Many thanks.


Entered at Tue Aug 8 15:47:15 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Framed LPs

We have well over a dozen framed LPs and often change the contents of the frames. Yesterday Mrs V decided it was time for my set of cool 50s jazz sleeves to give way to black & white to fit the new decor in the room. Three photographic, three illustrated. Revolver was first choice, but then looking through CDs "What we Did On Our Holidays" by Fairport and the first Procul Harum were selected to go with it. I had neither on vinyl. Being Tuesday, I always go to my local vinyl store to see what he's bought in over the weekend.

I'll check to see if he has the Procul Harum, I thought, and as a good luck token, played the Cd in the car going there. I was greeted with the news that he'd bought two boxes of late 60s LPs. First box, first record was the Procul Harum. A few LPs further back was the Fairport Convention. They look great.

The photographic set will be Times They Are A-Changin', With The Beatles … and … we're torn between Bookends and Born to Run. I think Born to Run is the better sleeve, but Bookends kind of fits better. I also play it more, but fortunately have two, mono and stereo. Will try both to see which looks better.


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Posted by:

John D

Thanks Peter!


Entered at Tue Aug 8 12:00:49 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

There is a Fairport Cropredy Convention 2017 going on in Oxfordshire and Banbury this week. Friends of ours went over for it. Petula Clark is the guest artist.


Entered at Tue Aug 8 11:00:12 CEST 2017 from (1.43.161.13)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Just came across some footage of Sandy Denny I hadn't seen before on Youtube. You can find it if you search for: Fotheringay Live at The Beat Club 1970


Entered at Tue Aug 8 10:24:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Fairport Convention

This effing spellchecker is musically ignorant. It really wants "Airport Convention" above.

Anyway, further to Dunc's post yesterday. The first five Fairport (it did it again with "Airport) albums are in Universal's Classic Albums series … five for £12. You can't do better than that.

Then yesterday Sainsbury's supermarket had a 3 CD set "Who Knows Where The Time Goes" for £5. A coffee and a muffin at Starbucks. It has some odds and bits on it too. But worth having for the car … assuming you still have a CD player.


Entered at Tue Aug 8 00:43:51 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Jeff, the barge is not going to reach Poughkeepsie until after 10pm now. I guess they're on an MTA type schedule.

Dunc, there is a great Joe Cocker documentary streaming called Mad Dog With Soul. A complicated guy but one of the all time greats. Never made it into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. What a joke.


Entered at Mon Aug 7 23:20:42 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D - look up your model on line. Region coding for DVDs can be removed by tapping numbers into the remote control for many UK models … though I have heard it's harder in North America. My copy of "The Band is Back" is Australian, and says "ALL" under regions. That's unusual as "Region 0" is the normal for uncoded discs. The issue though is that it's PAL standard. So while it's not region coded, it maybe only plays on PAL players and TV sets. North America is NTSC not PAL. So then maybe you'd need a multi-region player. A pity as the latest format, 4K UHD format doesn't have region coding. But Blu-ray does. I think by the time we get to 4K everyone has decided region coding is a non-issue. I thought with hi-def TV, PAL or NTSC was no longer relevant.

On which. the blu-ray on The Last Waltz box set is astonishingly good.


Entered at Mon Aug 7 17:05:08 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: The Band Is Back

Does anyone know if "The Band Is Back" is available on DVD, playable on North American DVD machines. I do know it's available in the PAL format. I sometimes think I should invest in an all region player. Thanks.


Entered at Mon Aug 7 16:28:01 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

There's always a problem when two or three clubs dominate a league … Scotland, Portugal, Netherlands all had the same issue.Mind you, it is usually hard to see any English club outside the top six winning the league, which is why Leicester was such a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately it was an exception.


Entered at Mon Aug 7 15:17:38 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Dunc, Pete,because of the situation, I haven't really had the stomach to follow organized sports since the later 70s. It just hasn't felt real at all. Occasionally a rivalry or series or a particular team might be worth watching for a short stint for me, but that's about it.


Entered at Mon Aug 7 14:30:17 CEST 2017 from (86.159.14.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Couldn't agree more, Peter and Jeff.

I noticed that Bournemouth do that. Matt Ritchie did well there. Boruc is a great goalie, who developed his skills in Scotland. Also, I do feel that generally some very good English championship players don't get a chance to move to the premiership now.

I did have a dream that an Arab state would buy Dundee United or St Mirren, and another club could challenge Rangers and Celtic.

Then those pre rounds in Europe are difficult for Scottish clubs, even Rangers. Rangers, Aberdeen and St Johnstone are out of Europe already. Because of the nature of the game with players changing clubs often, these clubs are playing matches with players, who have just met each other.

Other countries suffer. Ajax, who were once the best club in Europe, are out of Europe, already.


Entered at Mon Aug 7 12:16:22 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, generally speaking sports have become like politics: all about the money.
BTW, my thought was it's not unlikely NWC did see that post you referred to. Keep in mind how special the man is :-) .


Entered at Mon Aug 7 12:01:07 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

An afterthought, Dunc … if only it was the power of English money. As we read of the Chinese trying to buy Manchester United, we could list Chinese, Middle Eastern, Russian and American money in the Premier League before we even get to English. Then there's Qatar first buying Paris St Germain, then spending £200 million on one player. What happened to fair play rules?


Entered at Mon Aug 7 11:57:24 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Footballers … it's pretty bad throughout Britain on imported players. I found a 1976 Scotland v England programme on Sunday, and I just looked. Even back then 13 of the Scottish 22 played in England, 9 in Scotland. The glory days of Leeds and Liverpool had a Scottish backbone.

We feel pleased that AFC Bournemouth must have the highest number of actual English players of any Premier League team … 16 listed as "first team" plus one each Scottish, Irish and Welsh. Then only 9 non-British. No wonder our national teams under-achieve.


Entered at Mon Aug 7 11:24:55 CEST 2017 from (86.159.14.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Everybody loves 'Born To Be Wild', don't they.

Finished series 1 of 'The Bureau' last night, Kevin. Great stuff.

Bob F. You've got me working through my all my Joe Cocker. So your senior moment, as we call them in Scotland, has led me to revisiting one of my favourites. Great singer.

Before that I played the first three Fairport Convention albums with Sandy Denny on them (one of them Heavily Band influenced and all great), then the three solo Sandy Denny albums I have. I don't have the Fairport album, when she returned to Fairport. In fact, I've never heard it.

And it's good to see how popular my little country has become as a tourist destination. I was up in the N.E. end of last week at an art exhibition and I passed one of the great panoramic views of Scotland. Beautiful. At the exhibition, a brilliant surreal painting of Bob Dylan sold for several thousand pounds.

We're still Europe's most passionate football fans, but it's difficult to develop a team nowadays. Because of the power of English money as soon as a good player comes along, he is sold to an English club, often as speculation. Southampton bought a sixteen year old from Dundee United, Chelsea bought a sixteen year old from Rangers. Both outstanding for their age, but because the English clubs are so powerful, it's worth taking a gamble.

Al Edge. I really feel pleased that Liverpool have got Andy Robertson. I've seen him several times and am glad there's that Scottish link with Liverpool again. I can go back to the first Scots invasion - Shankly, Yeats, Slater and I'm having a senior moment - the player, who went from the St Mirren 1959 cup winning team, played every game in the second division for Liverpool, then never played once in the first division. Aaah!


Entered at Mon Aug 7 10:13:40 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

One could add that a scroll down a short distance would have revealed the original post about Goldy McJohn.


Entered at Mon Aug 7 03:37:01 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

NwC: Goldy McJohn was a Toronto-born organist who gain considerable success in '68 with his band Steppenwolf, whose big hits, "Born To Be Wild" and "Magic Carpet Ride" were both driven by his organ-playing. If you're not familiar with Steppenwolf, but are familiar with Janis Joplin's music, you may be interested to know that Goldy guested on her "Kozmic Blues" album (because it was produced by Steppenwolf's producer, Gabriel Mekler). The GB's Pat B noted here last year that Goldy had posted on online keyboardist news groups that he had been inspired by Garth's playing back on Yonge Street in the early and mid-'60s.


Entered at Sun Aug 6 23:33:26 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

NWC.

Your first post today, you describe yourself as "simple." In your second post you describe yourself as posting "to a political site for intellectuals (says the man himself ;-)."

Do you have as much difficulty deciding on where the front of your underwear is?


Entered at Sun Aug 6 15:08:03 CEST 2017 from (83.249.164.129)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: GB

FYI I post nowadays to a political site for intellectuals (says the man himself ;-). It has 50 000 visitors a day and - which is the best of all - I can write in my _own_ language. I am funny in Finnish. At least I laugh myself to death!


Entered at Sun Aug 6 14:48:15 CEST 2017 from (83.249.164.129)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Sad News about Goldy / John D

Yes, sad news indeed ... but who is Goldy? (A simple guy who knows nothing about nothing is wondering.)


Entered at Sun Aug 6 14:01:49 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Sad news about Goldy.


Entered at Sun Aug 6 10:51:46 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Lisa, contact Jan and he can give you a "key" for posting links.


Entered at Sun Aug 6 03:18:11 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Lisa

Thanks..........Well, hits today are very different than hits years ago- & in every aspect quality is a big difference. Especially the songwriting, the part to which the first article you referenced alludes. Yes- The pile the names on routine is in play..... it' been in play on recordings for years... Look at the upcoming release from the Blues Brothers, they have everyone left alive in the blues & r & b world on it.

I'll read that PRO database article soon, just glanced now. But ASCAP & BMI ( the one I'm on) had out of necessity already begun a joint darabase. The reason being Congress has made their lives far more diificult, & in their efforts to get their artists paid, ACAP & BMI need to be able to communicate better & faster than before.... And yes,,, Congress has been in bed with MUSIC INDUSTRY (Labels) in order to j keep what artists get paid minimized. ASCap & bmi are fighting...RIAA I have had dealings with, mostly tech & identification stuff when I'm releasing material..

Just for mentioning, The Blues Brothers is almost a NYC band for a long time now. All three vocalists are NY Metro area residents, one a Bronx native, one a Jersey native, one a Ohio native. the drummer is frrm Long Island, Bones Malone and Lou Marini are in the horn section still, Leon Pendarvis, the keyboardist , oneof the SNL musical directors has been in the SNL band for almost 40 years...... steve Cropper lives in Mississipi. but Jon Tropea, the other guitarist, is a NYC native.


Entered at Sun Aug 6 02:38:17 CEST 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

I didn't notice the new addition to the sign in page, but when I tried to use the link in it, I typed out the message but my laptop wouldn't send it. So, for some reason it won't let me contact him ...

The article was from a site called Digital Music News, and it said that the average hit song nowadays has 4+ writers and 6 publishers, as compared to the 70s, where the stats were 1.95 writers and 2.04 publishers. Another article on the same site is titled "War Erupts Over Whose Global Music Rights Database Is Better", which I also thought you'd be interested in. Oh well ...


Entered at Sat Aug 5 23:17:56 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Lisa. Write to Jan to get hooked up. The Mid Hudson Bridge noted in that article i linked is where Bob has his business set up on the walkway.


Entered at Sat Aug 5 22:52:13 CEST 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

I'm trying to send Jeff an article, but Johnny Cash won't let me, and I can't imagine why (nothing remotely offensive?) - so, how do you get out of it?


Entered at Sat Aug 5 17:46:44 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Tugboats In The MidHudson Valley


Entered at Sat Aug 5 04:57:48 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Goldy McJohn, RIP

I just read that Steppenwolf's original and long-time keyboardist Goldy McJohn (really John Goadsby) died in Seattle of a heart attack - at age 72.


Entered at Fri Aug 4 00:29:50 CEST 2017 from (70.115.129.98)

Posted by:

Crazy Chester

Location: Austin, TX

Subject: Garth turns 80

{ I asked you at Levon's funeral, that as the oldest member of The Band, were you surprised you would outlive Levon, Rick and Richard? You replied, "I certainly am John, I certainly am. May you continue to live on Garth & stay forever young. }

+1


Entered at Fri Aug 4 00:10:23 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.33)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Trump and Liberace

Cheese brothers in taste -


Entered at Thu Aug 3 23:46:33 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

As quoted today, Trump thinks the White House "a dump" and not up to the high aesthetic standards of the Trump Tower. What's needed is more gold taps in the bathrooms.


Entered at Thu Aug 3 21:25:39 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.33)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Today's Trump transcripts

These are so damn revealing and such a verification of Trump's idiocy - maybe even persuasive to the moron class. Hannitty and his cohorts are beside themselves about the leakers. Give it a few years and these leakers - if we survive Trump - will be seen as true American heroes.


Entered at Thu Aug 3 20:27:38 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Linked: The Troggs in the studio trying to make a comeback.


Entered at Thu Aug 3 16:19:07 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.33)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Westcoaster

Aren't you guys on fire up there? We could be at any time. The forecast for today is 103. High, dead and very crisp grass everywhere; it just ain't normal. It's meant to break a bit starting tomorrow-


Entered at Thu Aug 3 16:00:00 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Rod: I take it back - it's not hard to find. "Garth Hudson Our Lady" on eBay yielded many new copies under $15US, and at least one provided free international shipping.


Entered at Thu Aug 3 15:56:21 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Rod: I agree entirely, though my favourite is still what's been on the music machine yesterday and today, "Our Lady, Queen of Angels". Likely hard to find anywhere, never mind the Antipodes, but definitely worth some trouble.


Entered at Thu Aug 3 11:16:46 CEST 2017 from (210.86.93.173)

Posted by:

Rod

I must listen to the sea to the north again. The title track is an amazing piece of music


Entered at Thu Aug 3 01:22:53 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Subject: But Then...........

Those of us a "cut above" with a finer vocabulary Peter, would use the term, "Richard Cranium"..........you see.

I wonder how one little piece of meat could get hisself so many names...

Johnson, Peter, Willie, Dick.....I'm sure there is more just not in my head right now. Y'all must know the song, "I'm goin' back to Nashville to get my Peter....built.

I finally got the weather I need. Hot enough to burn the nuts off a chest nut tree. Sanding and painting like crazy. Had to come home for one night..........carry on.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 23:45:16 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: The Willies.

Pete, then there's Norah Jones band, The Little Willies.

Yes , Willy is used to refer to the male appendage.

Yet, say Willie all on it's own, i, as well as many Americans of my age, would think of Wilie Mays.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 23:19:55 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: As I've said before (quoting comedian Dave Broadfoot), if someone's going to be making 90 percent of your decisions, you want to be on a first-name basis.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 19:45:53 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Happy Birthday Mr. Hudson. All the very best. Serenade yourself and your bride; on a concertina; tonight. I asked you at Levon's funeral, that as the oldest member of The Band, were you surprised you would outlive Levon, Rick and Richard? You replied, "I certainly am John, I certainly am. May you continue to live on Garth & stay forever young.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 17:44:43 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Dickies

Jeff, I have my Dickies on right now! Blue serge, side pocket. Just the thing to crawl around on the shop floor chasing down wires. Impervious to most slime and grime, although I did scour the knee of one pair (I've three) when I took a header on some ice and landed on my knee on the pavement. It's got a slight whitish spot, but the fabric held. Can't beat 'em.

The other dickie, well, I think he's semi-retired at this point. Wish I was.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 17:44:15 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Kev, sorry about that. Nothing in Dunc's original post should have led to that mistake. It even had Tambourine Man as the subject. What's sad is that my hearing is actually going quicker then my mind. We have a concession at a NY Park and how I mix up people's orders all day is really funny.

No doubt Elvis could have had better management and a healthier life style. He died way to young. What I think get's lost is that in the last 10 years of his life he recorded some of the greatest songs of all time. Suspicious Minds, In The Ghetto, Always on My Mind and my favorite, Any Day Now would be at the top of the list but there's plenty more. His Dylan covers were really great.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 16:03:29 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

OK, on the band name Wet Willie, I know this can be a prank in America varying from mildly gross to extremely gross … but do you use "willie" as a child's name for the male appendage in North America? We do. So did you think the double meaning of "Slick Willie"?


Entered at Wed Aug 2 14:20:48 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Happy Birthday

Yes, happy birthday to Garth. "The Sea To The North" will be this afternoon's listening.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 13:29:34 CEST 2017 from (69.203.125.109)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Happy 80th birthday, Garth!!


Entered at Wed Aug 2 12:38:32 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, yes, a dick is slang for the male organ here in the U.S., but that never extended to dickie/Dickie. Here it's only dickie the clothing item, Dickie the clothing Brand, or Dickey or Dickie, the guy's nickname.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 12:15:47 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

The Italian toast "Cin-cin" is a big no-no in the Land of the Rising Sun, where it refers to a part of the anatomy that boys have and little girls don't. ; )


Entered at Wed Aug 2 10:47:10 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Johnny B. Goode

Yes, 'johnny' for condom derives from 'johnny bag' - a bag over the johnny. I never knew about Toby down here in the south.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 10:22:29 CEST 2017 from (86.166.233.125)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland.

Subject: Names

People use gobsmacked up here. On the east coast gob becomes gub.

As well as Willy, Johnny(a condom), and Dick, in the part of the east coast where I was brought up, Toby was used to describe the male organ.

ut my favourite term to describe the male organ, perhaps now dying out, is 'We're all Jock Tamson's bairns' (children), meaning we are all the same. Used when somebody is getting above themselves, for example.

I wonder what somebody checking into the GB would think today!


Entered at Wed Aug 2 09:19:06 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The fake turtlenecks are apparently back in fashion … I Googled and found on sale "Dickies for women" which would causes hilarity in Britain. It's odd, "dick" is surely used in just the same way in USA as Britain … leading to dickhead etc. But you don't use the children's version dicky? Maybe that's why we found Tricky Dicky a funny name for Nixon. I assumed it was deliberate.

We also found Slick Willy funny in exactly the same way, as willy, like dicky is a children's name for the male appendage (I choose words carefully to avoid Johnny Cash's finger, though 'johnny' is the a third children's name for it.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 05:29:56 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

I see that a somewhat interesting article on TNTDOD and the cultural-appropriation argument appears at this site's What's New section. Yesterday there was an article in the "Globe and Mail" on a different argument taking place in Richmond, the city that had recently fallen in the song. I just skimmed, but I did learn that Richmond was not just a place name that scanned, but the capital city of the Confederacy. No wonder that it's fall was an especially big deal. (I must admit that I'd totally forgotten that it's still the capital of Virginia.)

I just looked-up Richmond VA on Wikipedia and was captivated by the quick skate over this history of the place: "During the American Civil War, Richmond served as the capital of the Confederate States of America. The city entered the 20th century with one of the world's first successful electric streetcar systems. The Jackson Ward neighborhood is a national hub of African-American commerce and culture." Don't mention the war. I did once, but I got away with it.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 03:17:26 CEST 2017 from (1.42.8.31)

Posted by:

Wallsend

There is a review of Rumble in the New York Times. Robbie gets a brief mention.


Entered at Wed Aug 2 02:58:30 CEST 2017 from (24.114.75.157)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Funny thing about names and associations......while driving on the weekend I was getting fed-up by the music and radio options and decided to switch away from the satellite pre-sets and check out the main channel list of Sirius radio.......and while flipping through the channels, I noticed a "Garth" channel and it took me a moment to conclude that this likely wouldn't be related to our wonderful wizard of the keyboards........Also a bummer to see the "Playboy" channel has vanished.....I guess The "Hip Hop Nation" channel might be the only place left on the satellite dial to find some raunchy talk !

Bob F: You owe me 20 minutes back for trying to find Elvis and Mr. tambourine on YouTube ! I did find a Glenn Campbell version......and I didn't know or remember about the Elvis "Shall be Released" take......how much more special he could have been with a sharper music focussed manager/helper.

Has there ever been a better name than Elvis in show business ? Reminds of the Brittish bookmakers that were taking bets when Di and Charles were having their first and a headline in one of the rags had Elvis at 100 to 1


Entered at Wed Aug 2 00:47:54 CEST 2017 from (100.33.245.182)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Dickey

Any mention of Dickey would be Dickey Betts,for me.Though I recall wearing dickies in the 60's for a short while.Then turtle necks came along.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 23:57:15 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, if i think of Dickies, i think of work socks, though Dickies brand make jeans,work shirts, work shoes etc. And of course, it brings to mind the the fake turtlenecks from when i was 5 or 6 years old... the Brit term i was unaware of, but googled and found it.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 23:14:50 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

GOB is mouth, Irish or English, so I'd guess gobshite is someone who is generally speaking shite. Gobsmacked is as surprised as you would be if someone smacked you in the mouth. I think, anyway!


Entered at Tue Aug 1 23:12:27 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Gobshite is definitely Irish English., but gobsmacked is general British English … assuming it's used in Scotland, Dunc?


Entered at Tue Aug 1 22:13:40 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.97)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Gobsmacked

PV - This word is largely mainstreamed here now but gobshite is not yet. Aren't they directly related? Rhyming slang is brown bread here, never caught on; or hasn't yet. Is it diminished in use over there now? Generationally?


Entered at Tue Aug 1 20:21:39 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff, you may not be aware of the meaning of "dickie" in British English.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 19:36:25 CEST 2017 from (86.166.233.125)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Male grooming for the eldely

Time for a cravat, Peter.

Age, Bill, is when the barber says, "Eyebrows, Sir?"

A truly great milestone for Garth, tomorrow.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 19:17:31 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.126)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Pete, to preserve your shirt collars, get a supply of dickies.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 18:42:11 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Male baldness

This is the topic for me! I put gallons of that Redken stuff on 20 years ago. Total waste of money. I decided to go Yul Brynner and shave it all off. The downside, as Mrs V points out, is that I wear out shirt collars fast because by the evening I have stubble on my neck, which is tougher than hair and abrades the cotton.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 17:52:53 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Hirsute

Bill M - What's the story with all this new growth in ears particularly? Do you know if anybody's ever recovered from male pattern baldness?


Entered at Tue Aug 1 17:11:49 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Speaking of age, by my calculation his Garthship achieves the big eight-oh tomorrow!

Dunc: I know what you mean. Semi-formal means trimming the nose hairs. Formal calls for taking care of the ears as well. (Garth is free to abide by his own rules, of course.)


Entered at Tue Aug 1 14:20:31 CEST 2017 from (174.95.199.216)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Interesting and timely piece on cultural appropriation, particularly when we are reading more and more about this subject. (Hey, Will Shakespeare! Some nerve writing about this Venetian merchant guy.)


Entered at Tue Aug 1 13:18:58 CEST 2017 from (86.166.233.125)

Posted by:

Dun c

Location: Scotland

Don't worry, Bob. It's normal. I can't remember what I forget nowadays. Bloody Ageing. As Billy Connolly said, "From the Rock n' Roll Years to the Nasal Hair Years." I'm free and I can't get motivated today.

Just happy sitting playing, Bob 1966 disc 1. I hadn't truly appreciated the harmonica recording until your post, Peter. Perhaps too focused on words. Brilliant on many tracks. Playing 'Fourth Time Around' just now - stunning harmonica. Seven great songs.

Also, it's a great recording. Atmospheric and you can hear every word. Thanks.

Catching up with posts, Thanks, Jeff.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 11:44:31 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Losing It

Dunc, you were talking about Mr. Tambourine Man and for some reason I got I Shall Be Released in my head. It's kind of funny and frightening at the same time. Sorry about that.

We started The Bureau last night. It's good but I'm not sure how long my wife will want to stick with it. She only likes grisly who done it crime shows.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 11:09:05 CEST 2017 from (86.166.233.125)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks, Bob F. I'll seek them out. I have a good collection, not complete, of Joe Cocker, and have seen him live, but did not know he had recorded Mr Tambourine Man. I really like Joe, and will buy the album it is on. I saw Joan Baez and liked when she talked of Dylan and did her impression of him. I've got a greatest hits collection, butdon't know her work in detail. A thousand times - Elvis's version must be good. I'll seek them out.

Thanks, Peter. I play that version and think it's great. I'll play it again this morning and focus on the harmonica playing. Sometimes I think how negative people were when booing the electric Dylan, but they were also losing something special. I was lucky enough to see a quiet semi acoustic Dylan only once, but loved the experience. I'll check out the other versions. I thought about you yesterday because in the list 'Visions of Johanna' is low, but I owe my INCREASED appreciation of the song to you championing it many years ago on the GB. I miss Borders.

As some of you may have gleaned, I'm interested in Scottish art. I have an etching by one of Scotland's leading artists, which focuses on the audience at the 1966 concert in Edinburgh. Many in the crowd are older, not a pop crowd. They were losing something dear to them.

I'd recommend Gene Clark's version. Great piano.

Thanks P.S.B.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 10:49:34 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Marmalade's Mr Tambourine Man

Linked … it's a good version.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 09:25:00 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

PSB, very interesting article on Dixie. It echoes the Irish playwright Conor McPherson setting his play with 20 Dylan songs in 1934 Duluth. But I thought it worked.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 09:20:46 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Mr Tambourine Man

Dunc, when I saw Michael Gray speak, he said his favourite Dylan recording of all was Mr Tambourine Man at Manchester Free Trade Hall … i.e. in the acoustic set before he Hawks came on. He played the recording. He was particularly enamoured by the harmonica solo and focussed on it. We were all in Borders (it was that long ago). I've told this story before. An old tramp had joined the free talk which was to promote a new edition of "Song & Dance Man." He was half asleep. At the end, I was chatting to Michael Gray and the tramp lurched up, and said "You're the best harmonica player I ever heard!" to Michael, and wandered off into the night.

Different ones to try … the Brothers & Sisters on the "Dylan's Gospel" compilation. Duane Eddy did an instrumental in full twangy style (awful). Johnny Rivers did an unnecessary very close cover of The Byrds version.

I saw Marmalade around 1971 in a small club outside Bournemouth. They were an incredibly tight band, with great vocals.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 04:20:27 CEST 2017 from (100.34.127.122)

Posted by:

PSB

Web: My link

Subject: Cultural Appropriate and Dixie Down

Thought some here would find this article which uses "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" as its main example interesting to say the least. Read the whole thing, the writer kind of goes in a round about way to get to the point and make his case.


Entered at Tue Aug 1 01:29:36 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: I Shall Be Released

Dunc, Elvis did a version in 1971 that came out on a box set of his 70's recordings. It's actually just the chorus but it is so beautiful. I've probably played it a 1000 times. He calls out Dylan's name at the end. It's on youtube. I don't know how to link anymore. Joan Baez did a wonderful version on her record of Dylan songs Any Day Now. Joe Cocker also has a splendid version.


Entered at Mon Jul 31 20:40:05 CEST 2017 from (86.166.233.125)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Mr Tambourine man

Many congratulations on your new grandchild, Peter. This weekend I've been to Soft Play, Swimming, The Park and The Beach. Hard work, but really enjoyed it. Did 8 episodes of Dino Dan too. Band link - it's filmed in Toronto.

Thanks, Kevin. Really getting into 'The Bureau'. Three episodes down. Check it out, Bob.

I was thinking about JT, too, recently and miss his posts. That's because in between grandparenting moments, I've been obsessing about 'Mr Tambourine Man'. The version by the Byrds was one of the first records I ever bought. I didn't know about Dylan at the time.

I have several versions by the Byrds and Dylan. I love our boys and Bob's version. In addition, I have versions by Melanie, Judy Collins and Gene Clark.

I may be the only person on the GB site, who has a version by the Marmalade. It's good. Marmalade were a very good Scottish band, who did achieve a residency at The Marquee.

I know what attracts me to the song. In addition to the great melody, I focus on a different couplet, verse or even group of words when I hear it. I still do.

I have heard the song live twice - both times by Roger McGuinn - great concerts.

And did you know this. It's the only song which appears twice in Rolling Stone's list of greatest 500 songs - both Bob and the Byrds' versions.

Is there a good version of the song I'm missing?

Revisiting Sandy Denny, next.

Hope you are all well.


Entered at Mon Jul 31 20:26:01 CEST 2017 from (184.146.95.88)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Sam Shepard is the correct spelling, of course and The Band connection to Levon


Entered at Mon Jul 31 20:21:32 CEST 2017 from (184.146.95.88)

Posted by:

Kevin J

RIP Sam Sheppard

“Strange how people who suffer together have stronger connections/ Than people who are most content/ I don't have any regrets, they can talk about me plenty when I'm gone/ You always said people don't do what they believe in/ They just do what's most convenient, then they repent/ And I always said, hang on to me baby and let's hope that the roof stays on.”


Entered at Mon Jul 31 11:41:14 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: If only …

On things that happen … yesterday I was driving along the road along the cliffs. Very busy on a Sunday. A convertible Audi drove up a side road fast and tried to just push into the line, though it had a STOP sign. I just got a glimpse of an extremely snooty looking couple, and they forced in behind me, and I heard horns from those on the main road who had to brake hard. At that moment we got a massive seagull evacuation strike over our windscreen. Oh, I thought, if only that seagull had just been ten yards further back when it dumped.

I wonder if you can train seagulls?


Entered at Mon Jul 31 11:01:19 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.124)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

So , i was just wondering if that phrase actually has a commonly accepted meaning..............and googled it.It may , but, the guy definitely lifted the line from a George Carlin routine......


Entered at Mon Jul 31 10:51:27 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.124)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

The song playing on the bar P.A.. ended. The man's voice boomed: "I want to get my balls laminated." The barmaid , who was nearby us, the waitress, the 4 or 5 other patrons in the bar at that moment & I all cracked up. The band was on break, some in the room talking, some outside, but none heard this. The woman in the couple that was talking looked pissed in general. The guy had his back to us, they were seated in front of the stage...After we were almost done laughing, i said to the couple, I would love to have heard what preceded that. The woman was facing us, & responded : You would. It was real drama. The man said" You know , like waterproofing". We were still laughing.

The scene was Arthur's Tavern in Greenwich Village , a few hours ago, about 1 A.M.. Stew Cutler and his band were playing- killer soul/ blues plus more. Stew 's first on the the road gig was as a teenager with Z.Z..Hill ( if you;re unfamiliar you'll dig him), and i first saw him play in the Lester Chambers/ Harvey Brooks Band in the mid 80s. The 4 piece band is all first rate players, 2 besides Stew also being names with first rate talent & serious credits.


Entered at Mon Jul 31 03:01:29 CEST 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: s'side

Heads up on music from Hamilton Leithauser (The Walkmen) and Rostam (Vampire Weekend). Collaborate on 'In A Blackout', '1959' and '1000 Times'.

Heads up on new music from Arcade Fire. Not everyone's cup of tea but still.


Entered at Mon Jul 31 00:45:52 CEST 2017 from (173.3.51.201)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Jewish Style Curses To Use On Republican Jews

From a Rabbi.

Some are really good.


Entered at Sun Jul 30 14:55:03 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, as I posted that link to a review, I thought of JT as I did while watching the play. Twenty Dylan songs sung by young actors (mainly) with great arrangements. It's the sort of thing JT would have really loved.


Entered at Sun Jul 30 14:50:46 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Girl from The North Country

Irish playwright Conor McPherson was approached by Bob Dylan’s people and offered the chance to write a play with whichever Dylan songs he wanted to use. He came up with Girl From The North Country, set in Duluth, Minnesota in 1934, using twenty Dylan songs, and they're performed superbly by a cast of nineteen. It's the best evening of Dylan music you'll see nowadays. Unexpected sources too … Street Legal, Infidels and New Morning all do well.


Entered at Sun Jul 30 03:32:06 CEST 2017 from (24.114.75.157)

Posted by:

Kevin J

After 40 years of non-stop criticisms, the spirit of Neil Diamond's TLW performance and banter has come to define The Band GB........"I'm only going to do one but I'm going to do it good" Neil told Ronnie Hawkins back stage that night back in 76.....He did too and this GB seems to get one post a day now but either Glen or Haso or Rockin Chair or Jeff is indeed doing em good !

Norm: I know exactly what you mean about thinking of JT.......every morning no matter where I am, I always check out this site first, then Expecting Rain and then BBC FI.......and every time I open Expecting Rain, I think of JT...knowing that he too had checked it out daily and would have been intrigued by something he saw there......such a special guy and a shame about what happenned. Live and have some fun everyone.

The great Justin Trudeau is on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine with a caption "Why Can't He be our President?" I like to think Norm has been running around to newsstands all over BC buying up as many copies as he can get his hands on.......In other Canadian news, Ronnie Hawkins has lowered the selling price on his house......It is expected to sell for just $4.5M now...............true story, in the early 70's Ronnie tried hard to get Rick and Levon to purchase property in the Peterborough area - 50 to 100 acres - at the time for just over $100,000. They thought he was mad !


Entered at Sat Jul 29 16:42:23 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Summer Side of Life

Haso, sorry not to get back to you, (4% Pantomime). Just haven't had time to bother with the electronic life. (Down to fiberglassing, sanding and painting. Refitting and installing an engine). Busy summer, got out in my Boston Whaler to get a couple of salmon to eat tho'.

I confirm the sentiments of Glenn and Haso too. Peter congrats on joining the seventies club and the new grand children. Enjoy them every minute you can.

I am still finding it difficult thinking of Jerry. His last e mail to me was so very kind. He felt compelled to let me know how he admired the work I did out on this wild coast. That was Jerry. As a doctor, and a person his calling was "always" to make people feel better. I have lost too many friends younger than me to these very bad health problems.

It is hard when you so much enjoy people more and more as we grow old together. I have been complaining about our weather so much. Trying to work and get things done with the constant off and on rain. I shouldn't. Our interior is burned up terribly. At one point there were over 40,000 people had to leave their homes to save their lives. Some are returning to nothing but ashes.

Stay well and keep the faith in good music. In the words of Mac Davis......

I could just sit around making music all day long, long as I'm making music I ain't doin' no body no wrong.

Maybe even some day I'll come up with a song, to make people stop fussin' and fightin' just long enough to get along.


Entered at Sat Jul 29 14:33:07 CEST 2017 from (173.3.51.201)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Speaking of Fantasies, I met a woman named Fantasia. Quickly got to the fact that I'd have to call her Fanny for short. Asked her if she knew the song The Weight. It didn't register. So I sang her the chorus. She didn't slap me. then i woke up.


Entered at Sat Jul 29 05:24:00 CEST 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: music, eternity, NY & grandkids

Glenn T.: very well put, even if I didn't know where you're coming from, though I do; you're spot-on. And thanks to Jan for just deleting the content after Jeff responded. Whoever that woman was, I presume she's better off not getting Johnny Cash-ed. Eternity: we'll get to in a minute, sort of.

Peter V.: also serious congrats... both the 70th and 2 grandfolk, or as people in my extended family are wont to say "dos (mixing languages) of them puppies". We just had a fine, much better than we likely expected visit w/ west coast family, including 3 1/2 days w/ 5+ year-old hanging out solo w/ Gramma and Gramps. There is hope: I've had the same experiences as others trying to rent cars w/ cd players, but having the grandboy for a total of 6 to 7 days and his IPad was on quarantine the whole time leaves me thinking that not all is Googled, Amazoned and Appled. Plus, he never once asked for it after it went to charging; this from a family where he and his 3+ year old sister are known to be Ipadding while eating their stew or pizza. Anyway, I'll keep asking Enterprise for a mid-size w/ a cd player.

Jeff: as to marrying a lass from Long Island, yeah it's interesting. Fortunately, no offense to any of those, but I'm damn glad that her jr and sr high school years in central Pennsylvania removed almost all vestiges of a Long Island accent. It mighta been tough for a wanna-be downeaster (Maine) to have connected w/ her version of "cauffee", etc. That said, her strength and independence probably comes from other places than north shore, L.I. (Sorry to Dunc, Peter and folks elsewhere, don't mean to be a provincial New Englander, here.)

In fact one of the interesting parts to the GB is it's geographical breadth. In some fashion, perhaps that reflects the Band. I don't see a forum like this for Aerosmith or Kiss or Santana or many other outfits spreading across the globe as much. Just an opinion.

So tonight needing to listen to some of TLW on Concert Vault, remembering a good friend who passed Thursday night. She and Levon would be about the same age. I say that because, after I roundly introduced her to the Band, I want to say she probably had a crush on him. A very worldly friend, (touching on the political discussions here: the only person I've ever known to routinely fly the UN flag out front in lieu of stars & stripes) she still made it sound as if she would have gone almost anywhere to find Levon if they could ever have met as 30-something year-olds. After she and I and my spouse saw (3 - 4 years ago) "I'm not in it for my health", that might not have held. I thought Levon came off as a tough hombre and down-to-earth and a good man but not as open-minded as one might hope.

Anyway, I'll say, lets see what we can continue doing to keep "good music" around for eternity. As I recall, that was Ricky's assessment of the Hawk. I suspect it ours of R,R,R L & G. What did Dominique write about Big Pink: "it bore this music and these songs along its way". In honor of my friend and all those we've recently been noting as gone: thank God "it bore this...".


Entered at Sat Jul 29 02:51:48 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bipartisan bs

I think this is a mantra now for those particularly uninformed - this ghastly disfunction is strictly the GOP now. From our shitbird president to his shitbird kids, all through the White House, the senate and down to the freedom caucus and the house majority.

New(ish) music - Give Jake X Fussel a try: easy going & accomplished; he's a young man with an interesting story too -


Entered at Fri Jul 28 19:16:03 CEST 2017 from (70.121.56.235)

Posted by:

glenn t

i ain't dead. just quiet. praying for better leadership here (u.s.) and elsewhere. praying for peaceful elections in kenya (aug 8). praying that truth prevails over dishonesty. praying that kindness defeats intolerance, hostility, meanness. praying that joy triumphs over discouragement and depression. and grateful for the many folks here who contribute their love of music, their stories - we may sometimes haggle, but we keep coming back to the music. peace to all!


Entered at Fri Jul 28 15:53:47 CEST 2017 from (173.3.51.201)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, i figured a few more posters might have dropped dead and we haven't gotten the news yet. That's one reason it don't hoit for people to post.


Entered at Fri Jul 28 10:02:44 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Bugger! You put in a quote from Bob Dylan and everyone goes silent.


Entered at Wed Jul 26 23:48:16 CEST 2017 from (82.204.44.3)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Levon memorial project in AR

Contributions welcome


Entered at Wed Jul 26 20:26:52 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Eternity sounds like a long time:

Judas pointed down the road

And said, eternity

Eternity, said Frankie Lee

With a voice as cold as ice

That's right, said Judas Priest, eternity

Though you might call it 'Paradise


Entered at Wed Jul 26 17:27:43 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: adding to the fanbase

A nice surprise today was opening work's daily newsletter and seeing that their "link of the day" is to an article about the 10 anniversary of "The Flight of the Conchords".


Entered at Wed Jul 26 10:26:29 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Catchin' Up

Peter V: congratulations!

Eternity: I'll be spending it eating food I like, listening to music I like, catching up with family & friends who had passed on earlier than me. And if time permits, wreaking havoc (from the beyond naturally) on those enemies of mine who might still be alive. ; )


Entered at Tue Jul 25 21:19:14 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.61)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kind of, i do know my request for eternity.


Entered at Tue Jul 25 20:44:56 CEST 2017 from (73.121.83.27)

Posted by:

JacquelineDeane55

Subject: Do you know where you will spend eternity?

(content deleted)

Yes, we have an idea where we'll end up. And so will you, for polluting this little corner of the internet with your religious drivel. Please go preach somewhere else. Thanks.


Entered at Tue Jul 25 16:25:42 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Another point is that I buy CDs and check them out in the car. I don't want to put everything into iTunes, only select stuff. So I like to listen to the CDs first a few times.


Entered at Tue Jul 25 16:23:27 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The trouble with relying on iPhone / iPad connectivity is that software upgrades change and can kill your audio. Currently Volvo, Nissan, BMW and Hyundai have problems Bluetoothing to iPhone 7s. Though the rental car is a Hyundai and it did Bluetooth immediately. I'm told for my old car new software costs £75 to install (as if someone is sitting watching it the whole time) but only works about half the time. Problems are with some old cars and some new cars. CDs - well you have them. Same with a magazine article on DVDs versus Netflix / Streaming.


Entered at Tue Jul 25 16:12:53 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.61)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I rented a loaded Chrysler 300 with approximately 250 miles on it about two months ago, & was annoyed that it lacked a cd player. But i rented Ford Fusions twice since then, they still had cd players.. A new Chevy Traverse about three months ago still had the cd player.


Entered at Tue Jul 25 15:04:54 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Cars & CD's

Well Peter, I bought a new car in March and one of the first things the salesman said was, "well we've done away with the CD player." Mine is a GM product. My friend just bought a new Audi and he doesn't have one either. They seem to have gone the way of the cassette deck. I have a lot of music on my iPod. Just a note. I have driven Ford's since the 80's. Never had problem playing a playlist; from iTunes. As much as I like this Buick Encore, it sometimes plays my playlist; or it jumps around like I've shuffled it; or it just stops. Ford lead the way with marrying the iPod to the car in 2009. They called in Microsoft Sync. They have a new name for it now. I do feel for you; with the Audiobook situation.


Entered at Tue Jul 25 14:01:20 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Vinyl

Rita Marley's Jamaica pressing plant is re-opening after being closed for 10 years. As we applaud the rebirth of vinyl pressing plants, it looks like we might soon be doing the same with CD pressing plants!


Entered at Tue Jul 25 10:48:54 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: In Car Entertainment

Just picked up a hire car while mine is in for repair … no CD player. Only bluetooth. I asked the car hire guy (my car is 8 years old) and he said "We don't have any cars with CD players currently." Phew. I listen to lots of audio stories on CD. I don't want to load 12 CDs onto my iPhone for a single listen, and anyway I found downloaded audiobooks so often lose their place. Also, my car has an iPod connection, which I use, but in a straight comparison, even though I use Apple Lossless, CDs sound markedly better than the iPod … a better D/A converter I'm told.


Entered at Tue Jul 25 04:14:13 CEST 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Peter V

Congrats Peter.


Entered at Tue Jul 25 00:33:23 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Cousins

Hi Peter - All congrats! I just returned from a family reunion with 36 of my 38 first cousins on one side of my family. My direct family grew up in Calif and the rest were all in Cedar Rapids Iowa. So we didn't really have much interaction. What I noticed is how close these other 32 people are still in so many familial ways: great friends, godparents, baby-sitters, workmates, financial assisters, elder care helpers, etc, etc.

My cheap (& obvious) advice is not let geography keep them apart, it's so much easier nowadays and that closeness is a great thing. With some, few and typical negatives.


Entered at Mon Jul 24 23:08:20 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Peter, that's fabulous! Congratulations!


Entered at Mon Jul 24 21:15:55 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Congratulations Peter!!!!!


Entered at Mon Jul 24 19:31:07 CEST 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Congratulations, Peter! And yes, they will probably have great times together as cousins if they're lucky enough to live near each other. My kids have really special bonds with their cousins that are still lasting now that they're adults.


Entered at Mon Jul 24 14:26:12 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.61)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Once again Pete, Mazel Tov! A Native NYer Viney is going to amuse your eardrums.


Entered at Mon Jul 24 13:13:38 CEST 2017 from (100.33.245.182)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Congrats Peter

Peter-you are truly blessed to have another grandchild.Congratulations to you and your family and may you receive great joy and fun from your family and the new baby.We're expecting our first grandchild in a few months and we're most excited.All the best to you,Peter!


Entered at Mon Jul 24 08:51:38 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

A new grandson, born in New York, 23 July! My first American descendant. What with one on Christmas Day and one yesterday, that's two in seven months. It will be great to be cousins seven months apart.


Entered at Mon Jul 24 04:23:22 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.33)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Analogue, vinyl, David Rawlings & Gilian Welch

For 15 years now,some of you have been reading my posts about analogue being the better way to record, and also that there's no point to putting out LPS unless they are recorded analogue.

The link up top is to an article about David Rawlings & Gillian Welch spending a small fortune and buying their own record cutting lathe for that very reason.



Entered at Mon Jul 24 01:34:52 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.33)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Haso, my hat's off to you marrying a woman from Long Island. It speaks volumes of your intestinal fortitude as your wife must be a very worthy personality.:-).
Only interpret that positively :-)


Entered at Sun Jul 23 20:59:59 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.33)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Canadian Troublemaker in Brooklyn

This has been going on since last week, & is now going full steam ahead.

This is just one article. I couldn't find the one from days ago so settled for this cause it has the photo with the fake bullet holes & the bike bottle of rose. They're also marketing 40 0zs of rose served in paper bags....... there's better articles on this, ... it's really creating a ruckus. As you see, including who=ite gentrifier on white gentrifier "verbal abuse" :-)

Crown Heights was Jewish, Irish, italian, & some blacks. by the 70s it was becoming predominantly black & Chasidic. The last twenty years have seen the early beginning to rapid full blown gentrification... Shitty attached houses on certain bocks going for 1,4 million. Brwonstones going for mega millions... And talk about boxed in crowded. Wall to wall people.


Entered at Sun Jul 23 08:15:00 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

In Southern England it's Ahr-nt or rather Ahrntee. Same with my aunts in Wales,


Entered at Sun Jul 23 06:29:05 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.33)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Haso, my mother's mother said ohnt or auwhnt. She was born in Cleveland. Her family moved to NY when she was in her teens or early twenties. She was pretty proper & spoke the Queen's English i guess.


Entered at Sun Jul 23 03:24:09 CEST 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: pop, ants & likker

Sorry, was otherwise engaged since there was an Allman Bros conversation back aways.

Norm: would 4% pantomime qualify as a drinking song? I recall a song by Butterfield about drinking Gordon's gin, but don't recall the name; mighta been on an album: In my Own Dream. Wonder if that was around the time that he was hanging out w/ the 5 in Woodstock.

I think we always called it just soda. Out in the midwest, I have heard it as sody pop. There's a family-run company in the next town over that's been making carbonated soda drinks since 1863, I'll have to find out what they say.

No offense, Jeff, even w/ my time in Alton and SoCal, I'm still a yankee... it'll always be Ohnt. That's how my kids know who's talking... if it's dad it's Onht and mom (from Long Island, NY) it's ant. I'm quite surprised, John D, that you folks north of the 48th go w/ ant. That said, Anglophone Africans use Ohnt and Ohntie. In fact my bi-lingual daughter is officially Ohntie Tia (i.e. Ohntie Ohntie) to her mixed-race sobrinos.


Entered at Sat Jul 22 14:31:48 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Guelph photos

There you go … the photos are on this site. Follow the link.


Entered at Sat Jul 22 14:30:43 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Dunkirk

I'd almost stopped doing film reviews, but DUNKIRK got me back into it. See link. Great film.


Entered at Sat Jul 22 04:28:36 CEST 2017 from (107.77.85.50)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Pics and clips

Heather - Did you try the video clips and pictures here? There's loads, not sure about Guelph -


Entered at Fri Jul 21 21:01:05 CEST 2017 from (198.96.114.20)

Posted by:

Heather N-V

Hello there, My husband was born on January 16, 1970. The night that the Band played at the University of Guelph, ON. My husband and I met each other many years back at University of Guelph and share a love of the Band. For that reason, I'm hoping to get a photo of the band playing that night. I know that someone by the name of David Fisher has some photos online from that show that seem to be for sale but the web link is broken. Can anyone out there give me any leads on other places I may dig out some photos, or the poster advertising the show or anything cool like that? Thanks! Heather


Entered at Fri Jul 21 20:25:26 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Lulu, Twiggy, Joanna Lumley

A review of an unusual event … 60s icons Twiggy, Lulu and Joanna Lumley in conversation, Cadogan Hall, Chelsea plus a short set from Lulu.


Entered at Fri Jul 21 07:10:29 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.33)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Went to see a friend play tonight Kevin. He didn't know I was in the joint, & onstage you're often blinded. It was 7 :30 ish when i arrived, he was into his first set already...He knew LJ too, far longer than I, so I was about to call out Hey man, do you know any of Larry Johnson's repertoire, but it was listening room right then, & he hadn't done any talking i saw so i decided not to... sure enough, i recognize the riff he goes into, then La Da Dee Da Da- the beginning of "Loan Me a Dime For Beer." A song Larry did. It was a gorgeous version...After he finished then i spoke:- You wouldn't believe this but.............He responded that's the only song of his that i know, & i learned it from Larry. Another song he did tonight was "From The Beginning", Emerson, Lake, & Palmer. Solo.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 22:35:53 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: In Brighton Beach. A mile and a half west from home.

The next neighborhood over, video linked. One quick stab, the guy dies.

It's been rough there since the 70s, less rough now. Not the neighborhood of Neil Simon or Neil Diamond any more.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 21:24:55 CEST 2017 from (76.71.4.57)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bob F: Thank you. Glad you enjoyed Braquo and really appreciate the recommendation for Spiral – I have not seen it. “The Bureau” remains the best show I have seen this year….Perhaps the most realistic depiction of the spy world I have ever seen.

Jeff: Thank you for the added detail on Larry Johnson…..Though, I am not sure I want to know anything past the knife wielding !….Hope that you do get that song recorded.

Accents: Canadian actors working in the US always have to be careful to change their pronunciations of certain frequently used words……….Canadians say “Pasta”……Americans say “Pawsta”, Canadians “Been”, Americans “Bin” and on and on……..

…….and if someone is heard saying Sauvignon blanc as Sauvignon blank……..well, run for the hills…..


Entered at Thu Jul 20 19:27:11 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Floyd Dixon - Wine Wine Wine

"Make it Manichevitz every doggone time"


Entered at Thu Jul 20 17:20:23 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Too Much Jesus, Not Enough whiskey

I had to turn the computer back on before i left for this one. No really a drinking song, just drinking related, but good advice.
Norm, stop preachin, grab a bottle
L'Chaim.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 17:09:12 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Last one- Tanqueray


Entered at Thu Jul 20 17:03:04 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Steve Freund doing Mighty Joe Young. Keep On Drinking


Entered at Thu Jul 20 17:01:10 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

a few quick drinking songs Rick Roberts linked


Entered at Thu Jul 20 16:50:13 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ant it is John! Sometimes it's Aant.

Good day folks. When i come back I'll try to have songs on your subject of expertise,Norm....BTW, these days I'm drinking mostly Lagunitas IPA, or Goose Island IPA . But, I'll grab a Miller High Life a sometimes too. It's the only one of the old American big mass produced brands that still taste good, but, two large ones, or one large one two days in a row sure makes my feet hurt.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 16:36:46 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pop Soda and other differences.

When I was a kid growing up here in Ontario, I would say to my Mother; while out shopping, "Mom could I get a bottle of Pop? I called it that for years. Now as a mature adult, eh? We refer to them as soft drinks. The word "soda" on it's own I never heard; but I do remember using the term Soda Pop. Both words always together. Interesting

Not on subject; but my favourite word I hear on HGTV; or the DIY network is......What a beautiful foy-rr. The word is actually from the French and is pronounced Foy-yay; or Foyer; which is the correct spelling. Then again my American friends would always call their Mother, Mom. In Canada; as in England we would say, Mum. One more and here is where I think the Americans get it right. I'm going to visit my Aunt, pronouced Ohnt. In Canada we pronounce it Ant. Haha.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 16:30:10 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Fred, "you're a funny guy," always were.

Around here, self respectin wise guys drink soda, See da link.

Norm! Instead of reading you repeating yourself, this time we all repeated ourselves for your benefit. Shalom, L'heetraoat!

Remember,Buddy Hackett you're not.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 16:06:33 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Got me to thinking.......

The great debate. Depends on what you read, but the man who invented, "carbonated water" for making fizzy drinks was an Englishman named Joseph Priestley. The English have the distinction of beginning "soft drinks". I suppose Dr. Pepper may be the first "Soda Pop". So there is your debate for the day.

Now you have to come up with all the "Drinkin Songs" you can.

Drinkin my Baby Back Home, Think I'll just stay here and drink, Here I am I'm drunk again, Pour me another Tequila Shiela, Tequila Sunrise, Bottle of wine fruit of the vine, There stands the glass, .........and so on.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 15:52:00 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Fucking Rain!!!!

I look in here for a minute this morning because it is raining. Here is the same discussion from years ago , map and all. There is another kink no one seems to be remembering.

From an old movie with all the kid actors (now old men, and some dead) "The Outsiders" many had "nick names". One was "Sody Pop". Back in the 50's and 60's there was "Soda Fountains" all the soft drinks were called "Soda Pop". Young guys who worked the Soda Fountains were called "Soda Jerks". According to this on line in formation the first soft drink made began in Texas and was and still is "Doctor Pepper". Now quit sitting here screwing the canine and do something constructive. Bunch a .................


Entered at Thu Jul 20 13:02:42 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Jeff: perhaps you've been hanging around with the wrong people....soda-wise.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 11:24:31 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Whoa, i just looked at that map. It is definitely inaccurate. Around St Louis you sure as hell don't hear soda very often.. And though I've not spent much time in California since a year in the late 70s, pop was what I always heard there too.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 11:16:16 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete,see, how understanding we are in the U.S.? We wouldn't ask Norm to leave the restaurant. We'd just show him the map, say, this is where you are now Mountie, wise up.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 09:30:53 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: pop. soda, coke

Jeff, see link to a map of where says pop and where soda and where coke (and that's just the USA). For some reason, the question has been much researched. I don't think any of the three are in the majority use in the UK … we ask by brand … Sprite, Pepisi … or the generic word in the supermarket aisle is "soft drinks."

Pop was used in the 1950s in England at least, but is long gone.

Connie Francis covered all bases in "Lipstick on Your Collar""

You left me all alone at the record hop

Told me you were going for a SODA POP.


Entered at Thu Jul 20 00:44:45 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: French Television

Kevin, Braquo was great. I hope you've seen Spiral which is the definitive French crime show. Witnesses is also really great. The lead French actresses in all three of these shows are just wonderful. Another great show I just watched, thanks to Dunc, is the Icelandic thriller Trapped.


Entered at Wed Jul 19 23:07:25 CEST 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: Twillingate

I know Jeff. Just kiddin.

The Not So Righteous Brothers are doing their annual shows at the Twillingate Masonic Lodge. 26th and 27th. Sold out long ago. Pat Watkins special guest. Her version of 'Moondance' still does it for me forty years later. I haven't really grown up a whole lot. Might never at this stage of the game. My missus tries her best to put up with my juvenile behavior. She seems to be committed. God love her.


Entered at Wed Jul 19 20:34:28 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Check out the photos.

For example Pete. Norm could sit down in a Kosher or Kosher style deli in NYC, and order: "I'll have a brisket sandwich and a black cherry pop." Now the waiter might say: You're a real Jackie Mason, if no one told you, you're no youngster yourself. .At which point they get around to figuring out that Norm is asking for a soda. ...So, instead of telling Norm to leave, the waiter brings him the can of soda, a glass with ice, and shows him that it says SODA on the can.


Entered at Wed Jul 19 19:40:59 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

This business of being asked to leave a dining establishment for asking for something that's rather innocuous but the establishment doesn't consider a proper choice is very poor & essentially totalitarian in nature.


Entered at Wed Jul 19 17:09:42 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I recall an American ordering Coca-Cola in a restaurant in Sevilla. The waiter said "tinto." He said, "No, coca-cola." He was asked to leave. Then in Salisbury UK, a British couple were given the wine list and said "No, just bring us a bottle of Baileys" (Baileys Cream Liquer.) They weren't asked to leave. They should have been.


Entered at Wed Jul 19 17:04:27 CEST 2017 from (96.20.207.56)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Man, you can't beat good deli. There is a delicacy I used to eat called Speck. It essentially was pickled and spiced fat that you would add to a sandwich (preferably Smoked meat, medium to fatty) to goose up the flavour. Washed down with a couple of black cherry sodas.

I had a friend who ordered this but with a coffee instead of a soda. He was asked to leave. He actually waited outside while we finished our meal. Good deli is not to be wasted. He knew the score, thus he waited. 30 years later and we still laugh about it.


Entered at Wed Jul 19 16:38:00 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Yes Jed! A good knish & any flavor Dr. Brown's soda, I'm thrilled & delighted.

Of course, fresh from the plant Acme Whitefish Salad is still to die for. With a slice of tomato, on a good bagel, or even in a whole wheat pita


Entered at Wed Jul 19 15:57:11 CEST 2017 from (100.33.245.182)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: more deli?

Probably not-like you,Jeff,I haven't eaten much but my plant based diet in years.But when i cheat on my regular diet,I look to delis as the great cheat food.Since I rarely if ever eat carbs, those good old round potato knishes are perfect!


Entered at Wed Jul 19 15:38:39 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jed, there used to be a helluva lot of great Jewish delis spread through all the boros...There was a small one right on NE corner of Ave U & Ocean Ave in Brooklyn that was out of this world...But they were everywhere Katz's was always great if you were the right customer, or just got lucky, & got a counterman in a good mood. How it was for the average customer probably was luck... Between 85 & 97, I was a regular. I probably took out from there 2 to 5 times a week unless I was upstate. But.....

The deal at Katz's was you schmear the counterman. I made friends very quickly, i schmeared heavy, & I kibbitzed... If i didn't already know the guy, when I ordered I'd hit him right away. You tell them or they ask how you wanted your meat cut. Lean, a little fatty. If we already knew each other, I'd schmear em when it was the least obvious...I knew several of the counter guys well, & stuck with em. There were two Russian Jews from Brooklyn, & a couple of younger than I Puerto Rican guys from the area that i recall especially well.If I ordered a pound of brisket & a half a pound of pastrami, half of corned beef the guy would probably feed me a quarter to half pound of meat while he was cutting. And i'd walk out with probably an extra pound of meat, or close to it. And loads of pickles, sour tomatoes, maybe bread i didn't ask for...And quality wise, they looked for the best cuts, & cut how i wanted it... I always did well in Katz's ...I haven't eaten meat or poultry in 4 & a half years, but haven't been in Katz's much since 97. The occasional time in the 2000s when i was in NY was spotty- it depended on the counterman, & there had been big turnover, I wasn't in the city or traveling through the city as often ( when i was between Woodstock & Brooklyn I'd usually stop on the way upstate if it was a time the place was open) .... But, yeah, once upon a time, there were great delis all over the place. Dozens of em.. Not as numerous as pizza places but numerous. You didn't have to go far for great deli,no matter where you were... Unless you were savvy, Katz's was just another deli.


Entered at Wed Jul 19 12:32:59 CEST 2017 from (100.33.245.182)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: NY Delis

Katz's is a big deal now as most old style NY delis have disappeared.Shmulke Bernstein on Essex and Israel's on Coney Island Avenue in Brooklyn were my favorites.These days,check out Pastrami Queen on 78th and Lex or,although not as good,try Liebmans in Riverdale.Katz's became a phenom as the better places closed-overrated? Perhaps.


Entered at Wed Jul 19 07:48:10 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Pastrami. Great article about Katz's Deli.

The best exchange in the article.(There is another great quote in it).
Interviewer: "Did anyone in your life disagree?"
Jake Dell: "It’s New York. Everyone disagrees with everything."

Why's it a great article. Well it certainly paints a accurate picture of Katz's , the customers, & NYers in general. But for me, the most interesting thing is that this 29 year old kid from what is probably a pretty wealthy family, actually grew up to be a typical 45 - 75 year old NYer. And a typical old school businessman. Once, almost everyone sounded like this. Today, young kids just don't grow up like this anymore.


Entered at Tue Jul 18 22:45:05 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Joe, late 04, Johnnie Johnson.


Entered at Tue Jul 18 20:15:00 CEST 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Eaglish

Been a while. Condolences to friends and family of JT. His posts were always introspective and appreciated.

Cheers Peter. Got a 60 myself in a couple weeks.

KJ: I wasn't there but a friend said the Eagles Salmon Festival performance was 'anticlimatic and mercifully short'. Of course she was working the emergency tent.

Jeff: We're doing a session together? Clue me in b'y.


Entered at Tue Jul 18 16:52:10 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, theater goers are so uncivilized & inconsiderate these days, I don't think I've gone to a movie theater in 7 years.And that time was cause of the woman i was dating. I hadn't gone in a while prior... I used to enjoy going at off times, when theaters were pretty empty. Food & alcohol, restaurants in movie theaters, is catching on here in NYC.... fancy reclining seats too. Also movies in the park, movies on the beach....


Entered at Tue Jul 18 16:41:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My theory is that the turgid blockbusters pretending to be "movies" nowadays are generally so dire that you need to get the teen audience hyped on sugar and caffeine so as to be able to sit through them.

Worse is every London theatre now seems to serve alcohol to take in. Inevitably it gets spilled, the carpets stink. A recovering alcoholic friend said he had to stop going to the theatre because you got someone with a pint of beer on one side, someone with a glass of wine on the other. As he said, he can avoid bars, but expected to sit through a play without alcohol all round him. The other result is that people come in with a pint of beer and wonder why they have to push their way past everyone halfway through to take a piss. That disturbs three rows.


Entered at Tue Jul 18 16:40:57 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: A Whole Lotta...

Jeff: That's what gets typed while Led Zeppelin II is playing in the background.

But, yeah, popcorn (in large quantities, drenched in butter is optional) is the only acceptable thing to eat while watching a movie* on the big screen.

*film for the cinematic snobbery crowd.


Entered at Tue Jul 18 15:42:44 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Fred, a whole lotta popcorn!? I hope you take your probiotics daily!

You opened the door on a new subject- music,film, baby boomers, & gastro intestinal health.


Entered at Tue Jul 18 12:13:19 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

You can't watch a movie without a whole lotta popcorn.

No popcorn eating during a movie? That's just subversive talk. ; )

Eating during a theatre performance or yapping during a concert.....who in the world would do that?!?

Uncouth knuckleheads that's who.


Entered at Tue Jul 18 11:40:38 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Talking during sets

It's spreading in the cinema and theatre too. People think they're at home watching TV. The amount of eating and drinking in the theatre is catching up with cinemas. I can sit for 90 minutes without a quart of carbonated beverage, a tub of popcorn and a pack of chocolate. It's why I go to the cinema less and less and prefer our "community cinemas" which don't have food and drink stalls in the foyer.


Entered at Tue Jul 18 11:27:40 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Talking while bands are playing in clubs is at an all time high also. People will sit right in front of the stage & talk while the band is playing. Why go in the first place?


Entered at Tue Jul 18 09:25:13 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Smart Phone etiquette at concerts

Don Henley is fighting a long lost battle over iPhones, though Van Morrison has done the same. In fact, Van has announcements that if an iPhone appears he will leave the stage.

There seems to be an unwritten etiquette … encores are fair game. Along with standing up and moving to the front, every second person produces a Smart Phone and starts filming or taking pictures during the encore. I do now for reviews … but only stills. I reckon that's now unstoppable, but I can see artists objecting earlier. Apart from having a shaky rendition on YouTube, it's a pain in the arse for those sitting near the person filming as the monitor screen is distracting in the dark.

For those who consign 4 or 5 numbers to a theoretical "encore" like Paul Simon, it is a long time exposed to Smart phones,


Entered at Mon Jul 17 23:50:55 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin- i wrote a song about LJ years ago. I took things he had mentioned in close normal conversation & wrote the LJ song...could apply to many blues players also.... and it certianly was not demeaning or derogatory....just the opposite, honest, worthy, vivid, powerful and a statement... The man almost blew a gasket when i started singing it to him- i didnt get past the first line or two..... he thought the innoccuous lines were too personal... certainly woulda harmed me if i got to the chorus & bridge........I showed it to two of our mutual friends who still think it;s brilliant...right on the money too. ... One day i'll record it.

Late 03 or early 04 i suggested we do a record, i had the material for him... Now, again, i was one of the few he trusted. and hehad good reason to trudt me, i did alot for him, just because, got him some good gigs, didn't take a dime..... So i suggest the record, and he blows up- what are your credentials? and......a tirade....so, later than year i'm making the JJ record, with a beautiful person...

Larry died last summer, just about a year ago... i had seen him several times the last few years, was keeping my distance and wasn;t going to write about him for media. Peoplr have and it's for......


Entered at Mon Jul 17 23:18:45 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin- you hit it on the head- most people that go to Eagles shows proabblylisten like they are half assed listening on the radio....

I got a lot of Larry Johnson stories Kevin. Even from that day. That morning when i picked him up in harlem, i was 5 , maybe 10 minutes late. he lived in a old brownstone, and was waiting at the top of the outside staircase. which was wide, and in two or three sections , with landings. In any event, Larry was an axious son of a gun, and i guess me being really just minutes behind schedule he got in a tizzy, and as he was coming down the stairs with his guitar case he took a aheader and went flying. It's amazing he didn;t split his head opne and that the guitar held up - solid case....Scared the holy hell out of me, & himslef but was okay... that interview did take place that day, but Larry made scott so damn miserable,& didnt really give enough, that scott didn't write the story... He gaave an amzing two set show, really knocked it out of th aprk, guitar players were asking me to get them lessons, they;d pay well.it wasn;t happening, the man had no nterest in teaching anyone mothing, and would hide his hands onstage.......... one guy who wokred alot with Larry in the 90s, a guys who studed hios material, then met him, and booked them duo gigs- well, he didn;t play like Larry, but he knew how to accompany him well. He had a deep understanding of what Larry was doing, and maybe could try to imitate him- in any event, Larry told him that if he ever went and showed people what Larry was doing musically,he'd cut him. and Larry meant it..... I know of two cases first hand where Larry went after people with butcher knives.in each case he was workign in a ktchen at the time- one in a college cafeteria, the other in bar kitchen...... This is mild shit compared to how he lived for three decades.

there's alot, things i witnessed, stories Larry told me, truths, things he admitted, real bad things, and stories the one or two other people who had a lot to do with him in the later part of his life told me. i was one of the two or three or four people he trusted, but that didn;t mean he wouldn't MF me. If you email me, I'll respond. You should be able to find my email address after all- 00Kevin is your name.



Entered at Mon Jul 17 21:41:39 CEST 2017 from (76.71.4.57)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: The Eagles......

Jim Cuddy of Blue Rodeo and some thoughts on playing a show with The Eagles in 2013:

“They were the most unhappy band on stage that I’ve seen.”

The Eagles play Toronto’s Air Canada Centre on Nov. 6, two days after Monday’s concert at Montreal’s Bell Centre. One person who won’t be attending is Jim Cuddy, the smooth-singing crooner from Blue Rodeo. This past summer, the band (along with the Tragically Hip and Johnny Reid) shared a bill with the Eagles at the Exploits Valley Salmon Festival in Newfoundland. What he witnessed gave him an uneasy and not altogether peaceful feeling.

“The Eagles were actually exuding unhappiness,” Cuddy told The Globe and Mail. “It was just terrible.”

At one point during the Eagles headlining set at the festival, Henley snapped at a fan who pointed an iPhone camera in his direction. According to Cuddy, the ornery drummer threatened to stop the concert if any more pictures were taken. “And then someone yells out, from this Newfoundland crowd, ‘There’s only one way out of here b’y, and you’re not getting out.’ ”

Cuddy shakes his head at the recollection. “So, that’s where the love comes from: the audience. It’s 35 degrees all day long. These people have run out of water, and they’re still there. Yet this band is giving so little. People paid $200, and the Eagles cut short their set so they could catch their plane out of there.” According to Henley, the band’s current tour will likely be the last. “By the time we get through this tour, it’ll be 2015 and we’ll all be in our late 60s,” he told Rolling Stone magazine. “It’s been an incredible experience for all of us, but it may be time to say adios and bow out gracefully.” It might too late for the graceful bit. To Cuddy’s mind, part of what once were the Eagles is already gone. “I don’t know why they’re doing it,” he said. “Either people are unaware of how little the performers are giving, or they’re just hearing the songs like they’re listening to the radio.”


Entered at Mon Jul 17 20:41:13 CEST 2017 from (76.71.4.57)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: The Eagles

Not much more than a tribute band at this stage when only one original member is left – Don Henley. I wonder how the accounting is to be settled on this latest tour. Since Henley and Frey had managed to effectively take complete control of the corporation in the1990’s, buying out Don Felder and having everyone else – even long term band member Joe Walsh - along as just hired hands, I would guess this tour would really be a windfall for Henley. At least, he is not skimping on sidemen. I would think Vince Gill would command a hefty nightly fee………he still sings like an angel…Sadly, Henley seems to have lost some and the truly great Bob Seger ( also on stage with the Eagles a few night ago ) as well. Not easy being a singer and getting older.

Larry Johnson………..Thank you, Jeff. I have enjoyed discovering more about this wonderful guitar player and singer……quite a repertoire this man had….wide ranging…..I liked that story about the extension cord as well !


Entered at Mon Jul 17 20:16:04 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

It's possible the Eagles are owned by Henley & Frey's estate,& that Walsh & Schmidt came in as hired hands. I dunno. But, i think it might be very fair to state that Henley & Frey have more than earned their position at the wrong end of a lawsuit. Yet, on the other hand, a good lawyer coudl make the case that the song helped the hotel's business. And would make the hotel pull out all kinds f decades worth of records, and hire industry experts to make a detailed case about what the hotel's business would other wise have been........ Settlement was likely the object of the suit Of course, Joe Walsh was a cowriter......the question is - is the suit against the band, the song, or both..... David P would have pulled it up and explained it for us.


Entered at Mon Jul 17 19:26:38 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

If I were the hotel, I'd put in a counter claim that the song was derogatory!


Entered at Mon Jul 17 13:26:15 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I'm still not crazy about The Eagles. There's no denying some of those songs were great, & , i just feel you can't blame em for going back out as they did now.... something was different about Henley's drumming though. He's lost something....Definitely his voice diminished... I get the feeling that there is always going to be an Eagles- Deacon may take over the franchise. Hopefully he finds his own place as a musician...Odds are the kid doesn't have to work a day in his life....


Entered at Mon Jul 17 11:44:02 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Hotel California

The news report is that Eagles are sueing a hotel in Baja California, Mexico for "implying" a connection to the song and the band. The hotel is of course named The Hotel California. The hotel seems to have a reasonable defence in that it was named in 1950.


Entered at Mon Jul 17 11:38:35 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Natalie Merchant Trailer

The YouTube trailer for the box set has two backing clips … Butterflies and Village Green Preservation Society. Not the whole songs but a reasonable "taster."


Entered at Mon Jul 17 11:33:38 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jimmy Cliff

The "Live At Hyde Park 2012" DVD has all four Jimmy Cliff numbers, but the accompanying CD set only has the two duets with Paul Simon, a pity as his solo "Many Rivers To Cross" was sublime (as covered by Jim Weider solo and The Band as instrumentals). The first CD is "The Paul Simon Band" and the second CD is "The Graceland Band" though Bakithi Kumalo, Vincent Nguini and Mark Stewart are in both. I hope they got paid twice. I was looking up the Jimmy Cliff on YouTube, and while it's there, the performance on the DVD is a better video edit. It is a really superb album and concert DVD.

In the last few years, Jimmy Cliff at the Larmer Tree Festival and Natalie Merchant at the Royal Albert Hall are the two best live shows I've seen. On which the Natalie Merchant Collection box set of albums has both her "Butterflies" CD (with string quartet backing) and her Rarities CD. The latter has her versions of Village Green Preservation Society and Randy Newman's incredibly appropriate "Political Science" (They all hate us anyhow … let's drop the big one now).


Entered at Mon Jul 17 00:42:08 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Take It To the Limit

Sung flawlessly by Vince Gill.

Though I'd much prefer to see a Flying Burrito Bros band on the road, you can't fault these guys.

Chris Hillman, Rick Roberts, with anyone- John Jorgenson, Bernie Leadon, Al Perkins, Vince Gill, Herb Pedersen, any or all of em, & a drummer, throw in a fiddler for good measure, & you'd have one helluva Burrito Brothers band again.

Hillman got a solo album due out, first recording for him in ages. I think it's all, maybe just mostly reworkings of songs from his past.

Off to hear some NYC blues in a bit.


Entered at Sun Jul 16 23:29:32 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Hotel Calif


Entered at Sun Jul 16 23:19:00 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Eagles, deacon Frey

Peaceful Easy Feeling.... Steuart Smith & Joe Walsh, electric geetars, Glenn's son on vocals


Entered at Sun Jul 16 21:53:27 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Paul Simon

I bought "Concert in Hyde Park 2012" (2 CDs, 1 DVD) this morning. We cherry-picked the Jimmy Cliff sub-set then when the original Graceland band come on. So far, this is up there with TLW and Bob Marley Live the The Lyceum 1975 for live recording. Hope it works in North America, but link is "Diamonds on The Soles Of Her shoes." Magnificent.


Entered at Sun Jul 16 20:27:58 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Full Hendrix Show Royal Albert Hall

Linked


Entered at Sun Jul 16 20:12:45 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V

Thanks Peter; but unfortunately it isn't watchable in Canada.


Entered at Sun Jul 16 18:11:28 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Bring It On Home To Me

Link to the official YouTube presentation of Bring It On Home To Me.


Entered at Sun Jul 16 18:09:24 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Van M

Thanks, John D. That one had passed me by. It has stuff that he's done live often … Bring It On Home To Me, Stormy Monday for example. I look forward to "I Can Tell" especially.


Entered at Sun Jul 16 17:55:31 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Van Morrison

Can't wait for Van's new album in September. Just downloaded Bring It On Home To Me. Brilliant. JT would love this.


Entered at Sun Jul 16 09:27:35 CEST 2017 from (210.86.98.195)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: TLW outtakes

That would be amazing. I was disappointed nothing new showed up on the 40th anniversary set


Entered at Sun Jul 16 00:25:56 CEST 2017 from (100.33.245.182)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Condolences

To the family and friends of JT.RIP JT


Entered at Sat Jul 15 19:45:45 CEST 2017 from (79.75.180.5)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Michael Chapman

Over at YouTube Michael Chapman has said great footage from TLW or Shangri-La is sitting in a vault somewhere ? Please tell us more someone.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 16:54:50 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Darryl Davis & The KKK

Darryl Davis, a black man, is a pianist / guitarist who was long time friends with both Johnnie Johnson & Chuck Berry. He had worked a lot with Chuck. The link is to an interesting article about his relationship with the KKK, the root of it, & the resulting book.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 15:30:41 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Keb Mo & Taj Mahal are guests on the lasted WTF podcast. (I haven't listened to it yet).

Another case of talk in the GB imitating the internet podcast universe or vice-versa.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 15:20:42 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Catching up on things, I've just read the sad news about JT. My condolences go out to his family. I must say that I admired the positivity in his posts.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 14:31:54 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: All Around The World

A feel good YouTube from Taj Mahal & Keb Mo live … it starts around 30 seconds in. Ideal cheer up music.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 11:04:42 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Northern Star - Scotland Sings Canada

Again, another quick pop in here, as other matters predominate at present.

This is just to advise that, at 7.30 p.m. on 30 July in Perth, Scotland, there will be a concert entitled "North Star - Scotland Sings Canada" in which Scottish performers will pay tribute to Canadian singers and songwriters. It is part of the "Southern Fried" weekend in the city. I have no idea if anyone will be offering a Band song but I expect so.

Though we have made a couple of trips north of the border in the last month and have another planned, I will not be able to attend myself but others reading this may be interested.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 04:39:54 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Fast & Funky

For Anyone who looks out of curiosity, Larry did not have much superior recorded work for a while. Blues For Harlem was pretty good, but the ancient Fast & Funky, an article about which i linked, is the definitive Larry Johnson recording. You can travel the country, talk to the finest players, and if the conversation turns to LJ watch their eyes light up and listen to the excitement in their voice when they recall that recording. His appearance in the film Lightning In A Bottle, his Salute The Blues performance of Angels Singing, was magnificent too..

Larry was a tough nut- he didn;t want anyone learning what the hell he did. No joke... I saw some amazing shows in 03, he still had it....but, he was his own worst enemy. One festival i drove him to, a name writer from THE BLUES MAGAZINEe magazine comes over to us, introduces himself, the normal niceties, tells Larry- You're the reason i'm here. May i have the pleasure of interviewing you for a feature? Larry looks at me, says- When they start talking to you like that, it;s time to get the fuck out of Dodge. And he took off. i told Bock, the jourmalist, i;d work the interview out..... later, we're in the middle of this cavernous cafeteria / dathering room, and all to a table. In the middle of the room. Larry agrees to be interviewed. Scott's batteries are down by now, and he needs to plug in. Larry won;t move to another table on the side of the room so we can be near an outlet. i found a 50'extension cord, but by then, well, you can imagine.........the article didn;t happen , though i understand years later some one else from the magazine wrote a piece on him.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 02:15:54 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Now that i think about it, i woulda suggested it be titled Moore Johnson. Keb Mo's real name is Kevin Moore, & Moore Johnson woulda been a damn good name for a Keb Mo/Larry Johnson recording.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 01:54:56 CEST 2017 from (1.43.51.229)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I think equating criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism is a dangerous road to follow because it risks minimising real anti-Semitism. There are many Israeli Jews who are critical of Netanyahu but I don't think that makes them anti-Semitic. I always thought there was a heavy dose of anti-Semitism in the allegations about Robbie's song writing credits, it was one of the things that made me want to respond to posts on Youtube etc although I know responding to trolls is a foolish thing to do.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 01:52:49 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I met Keb Mo briefly in 2003. One of Keb Mo's early musical inspirations was Larry Johnson. Who was one of the most unique & awe inspiring Piedmont pickers ever. Keb & Danny Kortchmar were the musical directors of the 2003 Salute the Blues show at Radio City & Keb made certain to get Larry on the bill.That was a helluva day, & was where Larry & I began our friendship. Then we discovered that we had Sheldon Harris in common. Sheldon lived in my neighborhood, had written the Who's Who of Blues, and I believe one of Jazz as well. In any event, Sheldon was like a father to Larry. Shortly after that Salute The Blues show, Keb embarked on a 7 or 8 city House of Blues tour and hired Larry as his opener. In any event, either the last or next to last show was in Boston, and Larry invited me up for the day.. I met Keb maybe 90 minutes to two hours pre show, it's not really a time to make new friends, & Keb had some friends there, so we just b.s.ed a bit, & Larry & I took a hike. But Keb struck me as a very nice guy. He certainly was a very generous man to be able to tolerate LJ, who truly was a tortured personal & a handful.But Keb did very right by the man & i expect was glad he was able to & i bet probably wished more was possible.. Had Larry been different there might have been a KebJoh or LaMo recording.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 01:50:05 CEST 2017 from (24.114.78.51)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Lisa......I think Bill was just having some fun...but.......it always does bring a smile to me thinking of Robbie's nods to Luis Buñuel while at the same time ripping it up on a Tele and engaging in rock n roll fornicatoriums !

Thanks to Bob F and Peter V for mentions of new music.......as I really don't get it anywhere else these days...new music, that is.


Entered at Sat Jul 15 00:58:20 CEST 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Wasn't it the impossibility of sainthood?


Entered at Sat Jul 15 00:17:35 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Tajmo

Check out the new Taj Mahal & Keb Mo' album, Tajmo. Terrific playing and singing and also some great material. It's been played heavily here this week.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 22:41:14 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

NWC: I for one kinda like your "naïve idealism" regarding maturity, etc. But it IS naïve. Come to think of it, didn't Robbie talk about Bunuel's focus on the impossibility of maturity - or something like that.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 20:35:23 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Jan / NWC

NWC & Jan. Over the last 15 years there have been quite a few times people have written untruths about me or my opinions on subjects.Generally I've not responded to untruths about me, or slander. Very often, certainly not always I've argued points about subjects. NWC ( as your dog) , you have written an entirely fictitious post about what you present as my beliefs. There is no truth to it, & there is nothing in any of my posts to give you or any sane human any cause to infer that those might be my beliefs. They are not. If you are able to comprehend English, meaning my past posts involved, & the content of the linked articles, one can only infer that you are strictly seeking to incite a riot.

NWC because you have presented total falsehoods as my beliefs, I request you ask Jan to remove that post of yours. And Jan, if NWC does ask you to remove it, & you do, then it would make sense for you to also remove the post where I address him & his right to be a total fucking moron, & this post as well.

NWC had you engaged in a civil conversation, I'd have discussed my opinions. Though i have nothing against total fucking morons, conversing with, or being friends with total fucking morons, at this point, I've no desire to begin addressing each of your untruths or even conversing with you.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 17:41:03 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Children of Destiny

During the spring JT was looking for new protest songs and wondering who was going to write them. I hope he got to hear Neil Young's new song. Although, I think we all will agree, it's not Rockin' In The Free World, Neil's heart is in the right place.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 17:26:33 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

NWC- you sir, are a total fucking moron.

It is your privilege.

In fact, i hope you enjoy being a total fucking moron, because if you can't enjoy your own moronic behavior, there really is no point to it at all.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 17:09:17 CEST 2017 from (100.33.245.182)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Roger waters

Roger Waters is an anti Semite.Worse yet,he works hard to convince others to boycott Israel as he spreads his misguided,ignorant hate towards Jews.As much as I deeply dislike roger,there is something troubling about cancelling his concerts.Whether or not I like his opinions,free expression is of paramount significance in the USA and it a bad decision to attempt to cancel his shows.I hope he performs,does not sell out,and people protest his appearance.In fact,buy tickets and disrupt his performance-but don't cut off free expression-even from a rotten piece of crap like roger waters.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 14:27:08 CEST 2017 from (83.249.170.197)

Posted by:

NorthWesCoaster's Dog

Location: Pink painted doghouse

Subject: Waters, music and democracy (how unfair it might feel...)

There are two opposite attitudes here in gb towards freedom of express oneself with the music. The one (NORTHWESTCOASTER) is that all citizens should say everything they think. The other attitude (JEFF A) is that openness with opinions certainly is a good thing but at the same time it can be harmful because people are easily to fool.

I believe JEFF A is saying that people should not be allowed to make music of offensive things because inappropriate opinions can then spread. In any case, musicians should not be encouraged to say certain things. Therefore, it is wise to shut up!

The big difference between JEFF A and NORTHWESTCOASTER is that the former do not really trust the people's rightfulness and therefore want to increase the information, while the latter has - what one could call - a naive idealistic view of the maturity of the people. NWC believes that the people can be entrusted with any information because they have learned how to ignore stupidity. This is the fundamental difference between NORTHWESTCOASTER and JEFF A in their view of democracy. Can people be trusted? "Maybe, (but I doubt)", says JEFF A. "Yes" NORTHWESTCOASTER answers.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 14:19:15 CEST 2017 from (83.249.170.197)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: JT

Sorry to hear that yet another gb contributor is gone.

My condolences to the family.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 12:41:35 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Rod, neither Nassau County or New York State are singling out Waters. The law is they would be enforcing is against the BDS movement, & aims at what the BDS movement actually is. Good day, I'm out the door.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 12:02:39 CEST 2017 from (210.86.100.54)

Posted by:

Rod

I've never been much of a rogers waters fan but the cancelation of his concerts seem a bit Trumparatarian to me. I generally support Israel but they do overstep the mark sometimes. I do get annoyed by celebrities using their fame to push political beliefs but they shouldn't be punished by the authorities for doing so.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 02:49:57 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: I second everything that JQ just said.


Entered at Fri Jul 14 00:25:43 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.77)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: NY pulling the plug on Water

Jerry would appreciate this. It looks like Waters concerts in Long Island & NYC are going to be canceled.


Entered at Thu Jul 13 23:39:56 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Pat B

A sad time for the GB for sure but it's good to see you here, c'mon back!


Entered at Thu Jul 13 20:05:26 CEST 2017 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

So sorry to hear about JT. A great contributor here and a big-hearted music fan. My condolences to his family.


Entered at Thu Jul 13 20:00:59 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jon

Larry & Teresa will be here; in Toronto next Tuesday night. Apparently they will do one more performance as part of Emmylou's Band at a later date. Today they are driving from NY to Boston for a gig tonight. They are incredibly busy! The new album is very different; from the first one. It demands eventually that they have a band behind them. Nice to have Bill Payne on piano and organ. All going well I will interview them tomorrow by phone.


Entered at Thu Jul 13 17:11:41 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Emmylou Harris

Great performance by Emmylou Harris on Stephen Colbert a few days back, with lovely backing by Teresa & Larry among others. Go to YouTube; first hit on "emmylou harris pilgrim". Jerry, this one's for you.


Entered at Thu Jul 13 12:07:56 CEST 2017 from (197.245.248.35)

Posted by:

NUX

Subject: JT_PAUL SIMON_RAY PHIRI

JT_A sad loss indeed.Thoughts and prayers to his family.

Have been listening to Paul Simon live in Hyde Park 2017.Man oh man he really is in good shape.Found out yesterday that Ray Phiri had passed,he too was a wonderful spirit.


Entered at Thu Jul 13 09:06:47 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

David, Jerry was also wonderful at spreading the word about artists and shows he liked, and sent me enthusiastic recommendations … you were a major one. Whenever I reviewed British folk artists, Jerry would follow it up and listen to the artist, and comment back. You put it so well, “I doubt that I will ever hear new music again without wondering what he would have thought of it.”


Entered at Thu Jul 13 02:25:19 CEST 2017 from (24.69.206.90)

Posted by:

David Vest

Location: Canada

Subject: JT

I learned only this morning of the passing of Dr Jerry. His love of music is well-known on this board, and he made it felt far beyond. I am so glad I got to know him. His support, his encouragement and his occasional presence at my shows meant the world to me. He was the kind of listener any artist dreams of having. I learned something new from him every time we spoke, not just about music but about life, and I doubt that I will ever hear new music again without wondering what he would have thought of it.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 22:02:13 CEST 2017 from (99.231.74.112)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: JT/Dylan

So sorry to hear about the loss of JT. Like many here, I enjoyed his stories of his youth spent in the Concord Tavern during the formative years of the Hawks/Band. RIP JT

JT was a big Dylan fan, and on a connected note, I caught his show last week in London, Ontario. His voice was much stronger than in previous times and his band was in fine form. He did indeed do a version of "Old Black Magic" which I thought was one of the better deliveries of the evening. As per usual Mr. Dylan did not address the crowd, not even to acknowledge the home town of Garth Hudson.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 17:25:38 CEST 2017 from (174.95.199.216)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: JT

I was away and was trying to catch up with posts here this morning. So sorry to hear the news of Jerry's death. JT would likely have substituted the word "passing" because, as he patiently once explained, it was a more sensitive word to be used in situations such as these. I understood. I'll miss his passionate appreciation of music and of the Band in particular. My condolences to his family.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 16:51:42 CEST 2017 from (100.34.127.122)

Posted by:

PSB

Subject: Jerry

I am extremely bummed to hear of the loss of Dr. Jerry Tenenbaum. Jerry was such a huge music fan, and such a nice totally supportive guy. We'd been emailing each other for at least 18 years. Can't believe this one.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 08:31:39 CEST 2017 from (84.209.133.231)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: GB spam filtering and trigger words

We just discovered an error (too broad reg.exp. for anyone interested) that has made our GB anti-spam filter a little too eager lately. Corrected. There should be much less frequent encounters with Johnny now. Just be a bit careful with discussing topics like miracle pills and gambling and such. And do not enter phrases that look too much like web or mail addresses.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 08:30:24 CEST 2017 from (86.167.95.200)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

I am so sorry to hear about the loss of JT. I really enjoyed all of his posts and JT always was positive. He was articulate and wrote very well about subjects he was passionate about. As well as Dylan, The Band and other established bands, he seemed interested in new music and still enjoyed going to see bands playing. I enjoyed his posts relating to his father's involvement in the Toronto music scene back in the early days very much. I will miss his posts greatly. Many condolences to Lucretia and his family.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 04:37:59 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: JT RIP

Jerry Jerry Jerry - what a loss. For all of us here, and of course even more so for Lucretia. I got to meet both of them at a bar - sorta prearranged, but mostly thanks to triangulation by cellphone. It says more about me than it does him that I imagined that a Doctor Jerry Tenenbaum wouldn't possibly look like a retired truckdriver - tall and broad and beefy, clean-shaven and without glasses. But we found each other and had a great time together listening to a piano-playing Victoria-based refugee from Alabama named David Vest, who was shared a table with Jerry and Lucretia when he wasn't playing. An absolutely wonderful man, Jerry was. I miss him already.

Deepest condolences to Lucretia.

I'm going to play David Vest's "Roadhouse Revelation" CD in Jerry's honour.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 04:14:28 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: As Tears Go By

I have not looked in here for a while. There is life to deal with. As I drove back from Campbell River today, (down getting parts and supplies), I listened to one of my old fave FM stations.

There came on some hype about Bob Dylan's, "Never Ending Tour" now passing through Canada. At this time he is in Winnipeg. He will be in Vancouver, I believe it was the 28 or 29 of this month.

They then discussed his material and how he is playing much of the long missed hits of the 40's and 50's as well some of his all time hits. They then played Bob singing Glenn Miller's, "Old Black Magic" from 1942. I couldn't believe how wonderful he sounded and the musician work was out standing.

I thought to myself when I get home I'll have to e mail Jerry and talk about this with him and maybe get down to Van for that show............

Jerry Tenenbaum through all he had to live with from the loss of his grand parents in the most vile way, could still always find the good in people. He was one of the most positive people I've ever known.

I dared to ask him some medical questions concerning my wife's arthritis problems. He was more than happy to give advise and reassurance. As I'm sure many feel, a large part of the happiness of our age and the closeness we feel in these "Golden Years" was enhanced by Jerry.

To his wife and family, "We share your loss!" even in our small way. If God is listening I'm sure he has a special place for Jerry.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 03:41:44 CEST 2017 from (70.196.18.7)

Posted by:

Zzzz

Location: Forney, TX via 'Sota

RIP, JT.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 01:34:10 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Sad News

So sorry to hear about JT. His musical taste was wide open. You could discuss the all time greats like The Band, Dylan, Leonard with him but also Ani and The Waterboys. He was always interested in new music. I sincerely appreciated the kind words of encouragement he had for my daughter. The fact that he loved hockey AND basketball speaks volumes for the open minded person he was.


Entered at Wed Jul 12 00:05:44 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.248)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jerry was a high quality person. This is a sad loss for all his family & friends. Jerry was a good, sensitive, & decent guy. I was looking forward to meeting him his next visit to N.Y., & to taking he & Lucretia for top notch pizza. On principle, Jerry was boycotting visiting the U.S. still Twitler is out of office, & i could understand that. We've been e mailing for years, & it was always a good encounter.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 23:17:46 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: JT

Wow, so sorry to hear this. I always enjoyed Jerry's posts--seemed like a very sweet guy, very passionate about music. My condolences to his family.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 23:17:42 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: RIP Jerry

Link to the Leonard Cohen article that Jerry, Lucretia and I did. Listening to Leonard tonight in memory.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 23:11:29 CEST 2017 from (70.67.174.238)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: JT

So sad. Jerry and I had spent the last year and a half trying to find any pictures of the Concord Tavern. We've had Mike Filey and a bunch of Toronto historians helping us but aside from the few we've all seen, not one of them can find anything. It's like the place didn't exist. This bothered Jerry very much. RIP


Entered at Tue Jul 11 22:50:23 CEST 2017 from (76.71.4.57)

Posted by:

Kevin J

What a shock…I am so saddened by this news. I only knew JT from these pages but enjoyed so many wonderful exchanges with him about music and sports. He was a kind man and he shared many great memories here over the years from the early days of The Hawks playing at his Dad’s place - The Concord Tavern – right up to recently when he recalled how learning typing in high school had provided much help to him over the years in his practise but was a bit frustrated that such dexterity training was having less obvious benefits to him on guitar………My sincere love and blessings to his wife and family.

I’m going to have a drink and play some Bob Dylan tonight and think about JT.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 22:38:41 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D, Jan will explain more I'm sure, but certain words trigger the Johnny Cash finger. I just got it twice and eliminated words till it stopped.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 22:35:15 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jerry

I'm in shock, John! Such a great guy. We were in touch regularly. I've been hoping to meet him one day either in the UK or Canada. My thoughts are with Lucretia and his family


Entered at Tue Jul 11 21:57:12 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

jJohn D

Subject: JQ

I believe that Lucretia will be looking in at some time. Right now she has to take care of a lot of things here in Toronto and Victoria. They were both happily Bi-Coastal."


Entered at Tue Jul 11 21:48:58 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: JT

A big and another sad loss here. John D, if you know his family, they might appreciate the condolences from here, where he was a respected voice. I recall when Steve died his wife came on here and found a lot of sympathetic friends of her husband.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 21:29:27 CEST 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Subject: Jerry

Oh no, what a terrible shock. I knew he had not been posting much but had no idea he was ill. He was very helpful to me once about a Dylan issue. He always wrote from his heart and he will be so missed here. Deepest sympathies to his loved ones.

Thank you for everything, Jerry.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 21:20:09 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: JT

Well I'll make it short and see if this works. Dr. Jerry Tenenbaum known on this site as JT has died. He had major heart surgery two weeks ago. He got through it; but on July 6th had a stoke and passed away. I just got word a few minutes ago. I had more to say; but every time I try to post I get a picture of Johnny Cash giving me the finger with the word Scram written overtop of the picture. Nice. He loved The Band and of course Bob Dylan.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 21:12:02 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Well that one worked.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 21:11:19 CEST 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

I just tried to leave a post and when I hit preview it told me to scram with a picture of Johnny Cash giving the finger.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 21:08:50 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Singers and songwriters

A buddy of mine, a big Dylan fan, recently took his wife to a Johnny Mathis concert; he was trying to make up for something he'd done wrong. She's a big fan of JM. And he reported back that he really liked it and the JM's singing made up for the lameness of the lyrics and orchestration. He said he nearly wept during a sad one. A lot of the singers my folks liked were exceptional vocalists that we might dismiss only because of their topics and style. Shame on us. Where I think we really miss the boat is on the songwriters of that era. Cole Porter and Yip Harburg (sp?) and any of the crowd that were in the original Tin Pan Alley. It seems a lot of my generation really believes that anything pre-Elvis isn't worth exploring.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 19:41:30 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: That singer

We called him Barely Manenough.

Saw a TV special with him or about him not too long ago and either he's not a sappy as he once was or I am getting really, really old. What's next, Laurence Welk? (Actually there were some good musicians on that show if you could get past the treacle and the hairdos.)

I scare myself. And I don't mean lightly.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 09:37:26 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The much-missed UK DJ, Terry Wogan, only ever referred to the singer as Manley Barrylove.

There is a tradition here … Jefferson Airplane on the sleeve notes to Volunteers refer to "Bud Dolan".


Entered at Tue Jul 11 07:43:23 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Jeff:

LOL


Entered at Tue Jul 11 06:36:57 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.248)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Fred, his last name is Manilow for a reason.


Entered at Tue Jul 11 05:13:59 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

I thought it was all about writing the songs that make the young girls sing. ; )


Entered at Mon Jul 10 23:20:39 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.248)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I ran into this expression recently: "We write the music we want to hear." I'd hav to say that if a songwriter (s) is worth his or her salt, and have self respect and truly respect music, then this is a truth.


Entered at Mon Jul 10 19:43:05 CEST 2017 from (84.209.133.231)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Duck Dunn bio

Upcoming bio about the bass legend that played with them all. Including a stint in Levon's RCO All Stars.


Entered at Mon Jul 10 16:25:07 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

For the vulgarly curious, several extra photos added to my party blog (I got my daughter's camera card today)


Entered at Sun Jul 9 21:29:00 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.248)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Film Exposing Roger Waters Fpr What He Actually Is.


Entered at Sun Jul 9 19:45:48 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'd agree with your mid-70s date, Jeff.

The new Natalie Merchant box set has two great new discs … Butterflies wth string quartet, and Rarities. Highly recommended.


Entered at Sun Jul 9 19:38:01 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.248)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I don't disagree Pete. But came a point that failed,.


Entered at Sun Jul 9 16:31:09 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John Mayall's strength was as a catalyst rather than a performer or writer. Look at the bands he put together. He was often the least interesting member, but you do need a catalyst.


Entered at Sun Jul 9 12:22:24 CEST 2017 from (210.86.102.37)

Posted by:

Rod Prowse

Happy belated birthday PV


Entered at Sun Jul 9 11:00:11 CEST 2017 from (86.167.95.200)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: McCraes

Jimmy McCrae was an exceptional driver, and his son, Colin McCrae was exceptional too, becoming the highest paid rally driver in the world for a few years.

I don't know if you know this NorthWestCoaster, but Colin McCrae died with his son and two family friends in a helicopter crash in 2007.

I really enjoyed my holiday in Finland.


Entered at Sun Jul 9 10:25:32 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Finnish Rally Drivers

NWC: All the best rally drivers come from Finland, including my favourite Markku Alen.


Entered at Sun Jul 9 10:20:21 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: John Mayall

I thought that his 1997 CD Blues For The Lost Days had its moments.


Entered at Sun Jul 9 05:11:47 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.248)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

NWC, since i think the mid 70s, quality wise, it's only been straight downhill for Mayall. The fact that he has held on, and is still performing and earning, is a testament to the mediocrity of musical taste amongst the masses, and especially the sawdust & vomit crowd.


Entered at Sat Jul 8 22:39:56 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The fault in NWCs fantasy is placing me in a British made vehicle.


Entered at Sat Jul 8 15:07:31 CEST 2017 from (83.249.170.197)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Scottland / Dunc

About Jimmy McRae, Scottland:

"Jimmy McRae (born 28 October 1943) is a British rally driver. He was highly successful in the British Rally Championship, winning the title five times in 1981, 1982, 1984, 1987 and 1988."

Good for Scottish Jimmy! At that time Finnish rally drivers were the great competitors. If You Google my name You'll find my humble success in rallying (in SAAB, Levon link.) (Actually, I was more succesfull in off-road rallying like Dakar which is not shown in the internet). We were fooling our Scottish competitors. Anyone who has driven in French Alps has seen "3 lacets" and "4 lacets". Be aware that 3 lacets means in Finnish language: "full throttle in third gear" and 4 lacets means consecuently "full throttle in fourth gear". "Rallentir" means "slow down" in French but in Finnish it means:"Now we are - goddamned - rallying for the real!" Following these simply Finnish rules - without sitting in Esso cafe in the middle of Finnish lake district - you are going to have serious problems if you are rallynig in French Alps... That is what our good Scotchman Jimmy McRae did during his career. Not a surprise that he really hated us Finns. We met his son once in the mountains above our flat in French Riviera but never came too close to explain nor apologise this.


Entered at Sat Jul 8 14:03:10 CEST 2017 from (83.249.170.197)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: British album sleeves / John Mayall

As an Anglophile from the sixties I loved John Mayall's "Blues from Laurel Canyon" sleeves from the very beginning. John Mayall is a creative artistic British multi-talented musician who has not even got his place in British TOPPERMOST. Shame on you, Britains!!!!

We took our time to drive in our Arizona plated car thru Laurel Canyon! BTW I loved dearly...

JQ's POST ON BAKERSFIELD...

...the other day. At the time we drove thru BAKERSFIELD (Southbound) we heard in the radio: "this is the last place you' re gonna hear REAL COUNTRY!!!" So true.


Entered at Sat Jul 8 13:34:53 CEST 2017 from (83.249.170.197)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Grand Old Man

I don't post here regularly anymore, principally. I am into politics because I believe our Europe is in danger. I only check if Norbert has posted something from his Google-free human settlement on the planet Mars. I believe we live in strange times in opposite to Peter V.

However, about Peter V's birhtday: I have met Peter only once. It was on his 60th birthday in Marrakesh Morocco. While Mrs. V and Mrs. NWC got their Moroccan manicure me and Peter drove in an old British Land Rover (God bless them) to the coast to see flamingos. We saw them ... thousands and thousands. Peter said: "...errr... abgff drfft (cough) ... this is BIG PINK for real!" I agreed and played with my harmonica Donovan songs from his LP "Open Road".

Have a good Summer, good people in this God-forsaken forum!


Entered at Sat Jul 8 10:31:50 CEST 2017 from (86.167.95.200)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Happy Birthday

Glad you had a great time, Peter. What a cool, brilliant shirt for an old boy! Peter is the Band's ambassador in Britain. Thanks for all the contributions over the years.


Entered at Sat Jul 8 08:59:04 CEST 2017 from (86.145.245.249)

Posted by:

Peter V

The S&G was kind of required listening rather than choice. When we cut the Hammond in two, it was the only album and we had it on replay for most of two days. I couldn't listen to it for years after that. The problem was that we had cut an L100 in two easily. This was bigger and stressed differently internally so it took us way longer to do than we had anticipated. The Boxer is my favourite track, and I guess the most Band like. Several years later we regularly did the Boxer on our ELT shows, and discovered that a fist brought down on a Watkins Copicat echo machine made the same noise as S&Gs Moog, but much more cheaply.


Entered at Sat Jul 8 04:08:03 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Am I right in thinking that "The Boxer" was Daddy's favourite song from the S&G album. Certainly seems the most Bandish to me.


Entered at Fri Jul 7 19:19:03 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Dylan and Marlon Brando

I've been otherwise engaged for quite a while and not kept up-to-date here (a situation likely to continue for a while) but, in case this hasn't come up of late, I thought I should just mention the following.

Allen Ginsberg recorded a conversation with Dylan backstage at a concert believed to be in San Francisco on 11 December 1965. During this conversation, Dylan said he had met Marlon Brando for about three hours.

The question of this meeting came up here some months back, as I recall.


Entered at Thu Jul 6 23:11:45 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Weight

That was equally essential for everyone there. For Rick & Andy, the first time Supertramp got together (as Daddy), they had two LPs in the house … Music from Big Pink, and a Horace Silver LP. Nothing else. That's why they had organ and piano (both Rick Davies) and seriously considered recruiting a piano player early on to have two keyboards all the time.

When we got to cut their Hammond in two for transportation a few months later, the management had given them a third LP, Bridge Over Troubled Water, to study production quality. I also recall being made to listen to the first Curved Air LP a couple of times. But these guys were seriously into The Weight, regardless of me.


Entered at Thu Jul 6 22:45:46 CEST 2017 from (74.12.34.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Wonderful stuff!!! Thanks or sharing this (and much more over the years). And a belated Happy Birthday. ps: Did you have to push hard to get "The Weight" on the set list? (Or did Mrs take care of it?)


Entered at Thu Jul 6 20:28:09 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: PV @70

Cheers Peter. Was it a surprise party? In any event you must have felt totally flattered. Was there a speech? I know it's an odd feeling, that I share too, of having adult memories from 50 years ago. It hurts a bit too -


Entered at Thu Jul 6 17:50:03 CEST 2017 from (84.209.133.231)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Cheers, PV!


Entered at Thu Jul 6 14:50:10 CEST 2017 from (197.245.248.35)

Posted by:

NUX

Subject: PETER

Happy Birthday Peter,wow looks like you had a good one!


Entered at Thu Jul 6 14:14:09 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.248)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Happy Birthday Pete! And many more.It sounds like you had a helluva party.


Entered at Thu Jul 6 14:01:06 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Vulgar curiosity …

Link to my own birthday party bash with a great band - these guys last played together 48 years ago!


Entered at Thu Jul 6 03:40:17 CEST 2017 from (74.12.34.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: David P

Kevin J / Mike N: Nicely put re David P. Doesn't seem like a year, but it must be so.


Entered at Thu Jul 6 03:17:26 CEST 2017 from (174.95.199.216)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Mr. Powell

Quiet class personified. Musician and aficionado with an encyclopedic mind. Thanks for the reminder, Kevin.


Entered at Thu Jul 6 02:51:33 CEST 2017 from (24.114.54.169)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: David P

I believe it was one year ago today - July 5 North American time - that a wonderful and major contributor to this GB passed away. The old neighbourhood really has never been the same.


Entered at Thu Jul 6 01:15:28 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Sing-a-longs with The Hip

Ry C: I would/do too.

If it's a Hip concert where all the folks are Hip fans....no problems.

At a concert where a lot of people wouldn't know their music and it isn't even The Hip performing....kinda not well thought out.


Entered at Wed Jul 5 18:56:40 CEST 2017 from (74.12.34.118)

Posted by:

Ry C

Subject: What, me, debunk an American myth?

Fred: I'd happily sing along to "At The Hundredth Meridian", which I think lends itself to that sort of treatment. Nice hotel chain, too.


Entered at Wed Jul 5 16:58:46 CEST 2017 from (24.114.70.206)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Happy Birthday, Robbie !

Just thinking about how much less interesting the musical part of my life - all of our lives here - would have been without Robbie Robertson. May he have many more years and another book and some more interesting and original music to offer.


Entered at Wed Jul 5 02:33:11 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Kevin J: Sing-a-longs with Tragically Hip tunes...ai yai yai! Not really a good idea any way you look at it. Sometimes you just have to shake your head in bemusement regarding the how & the why things happen... : )


Entered at Tue Jul 4 22:55:43 CEST 2017 from (76.71.4.57)

Posted by:

Kevin J

For Dunc and Bob F and anyone else that enjoys watching quality tv shows, I just finished watching ‘Barquo”, a French crime series that is brilliant.

Anyone else catch the Canada Day concerts as presented by CBC on Saturday? Gordon Lightfoot closed it out with “If You Could Read My Mind”. At least he had his band with him and they did a nice job. Bruce Cockburn went acoustic/solo and it didn’t really project………………The funniest part of the day was the very end when the performers ( one guy and two gals ) tried to get the very large crowd in Ottawa to sing along to the Tragically Hip’s “Ahead by a Century”. It didn’t work as no one in the crowd seemed to know the song. A Hey Jude or The Weight moment it was not !


Entered at Tue Jul 4 17:16:36 CEST 2017 from (24.114.70.206)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Lavon

From several sources over the years - interviews, articles, books - the story as told by Levon was that because Robbie and the other Canadian guys in The Hawks couldn't quite get the Lavon pronounciation right, they called him Levon and so it stuck and was officially changed.

....and JQ is spot on about why jerk-offs like Imus pronounced it the way they did.


Entered at Tue Jul 4 15:50:52 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: What's in a name?

John D: thanks for that bit of info.

The only problem I had (and problem is really a strong word....minorly irksome more like it) was Levon's name was pronounced differently by the same person during the same program. Whatever happened to staying consistent? ; )


Entered at Tue Jul 4 14:59:28 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Levon vs Lavon

If anyone is interested. A few years ago I heard the Lavon pronunciation for the first time. I was with Levon one evening and asked him about it. He said, "well my birth name is Lavon (pron La-Von); but in the early days of playing people started calling me Levon (pron Lee-Von). Then good friends I got to know; over time would call me Lee. Levon just stuck. Had no problem with it." Hence Levon & The Hawks and the songs called Levon were in fact pronounced Lee-Von. For the record that was noted here earlier, his birth name is Mark Lavon Helm.

As Juliet of Romeo & Juliet once said, "What's In A Name?"


Entered at Tue Jul 4 11:15:59 CEST 2017 from (39.44.185.74)

Posted by:

adrianna alessa

Location: DUBAI

Subject: noocube

Amazing read that is, as me myself on my current cutting cycle and trying to follow proper guidelines and your articles helped me a lot in my cycle.


Entered at Tue Jul 4 05:39:32 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Band names

I had a phony call today from a guy with a deep Indian accent who identified himself as Garth. Last week was an Rx pitch from an Indian named Lance - wtf?


Entered at Mon Jul 3 17:53:07 CEST 2017 from (82.0.241.246)

Posted by:

Steve Hartley

Subject: Missing BB Gabor

One of my regrets is also missing BB Gabor in 1984


Entered at Mon Jul 3 14:21:36 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Levon

I wonder if it's in the BBC Pronouncing Dictionary? It's the reference for British newscasters. I have a copy but can't find it. Perhaps we should follow the records by Marc Cohn (Listening to Levon) and Elton John (Levon) as a recording so cementing it.


Entered at Mon Jul 3 13:45:58 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Rick & Levon had the coolest names, but all the Band members had / have interesting or cool names.


Entered at Mon Jul 3 11:50:46 CEST 2017 from (219.89.9.55)

Posted by:

Rod

I've always thought Rick Danko was the coolest name ever. Glad he didn't use his second name


Entered at Mon Jul 3 07:51:18 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

"Gues" is my new way of typing out "guy".


Entered at Mon Jul 3 07:48:34 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

At first that's what how I heard it (LAVON) but when Mr.Hoskyn's appeared again,I think there may have been more stress on the the VON part after what sounded like the LA, then there was a bit where there was more stress on the LA. Then finally he said it the way I would say it LEE-VON.

Another journalist in the program (this gues was an American) at one point pronounced it LEH-Von.

Perhaps there needs to be a global standard on how to say Mr. Helm's first name.


Entered at Sun Jul 2 20:44:28 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I'm pretty sure Fred was discussing something else. Lavon would not be new to Fred.


Entered at Sun Jul 2 20:33:08 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: MLH

Jeff A - Yes, that's my understanding too


Entered at Sun Jul 2 20:19:34 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jq, Lavon was not a new pronunciation. His name was Mark Lavon Helm.


Entered at Sun Jul 2 20:13:55 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Lavon -

I noticed that Don Imus pronounced it that way too, like Hoskins. I believe that's its original spelling and proper pronunciation. Although it's mostly likely a way those two can show off how in-the-know they are. I recall Levon saying that his family and mates at school always just called him Mark.


Entered at Sun Jul 2 16:41:28 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Sounded close to that, more of a LA than LEA. A bit hard to make it out, in part because my upstairs neighbour started hammering away at something.

However in the second half of the documentary he started saying it the way John Simon was pronuncing it: LEE-VON.


Entered at Sun Jul 2 15:38:52 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

How does he say it? Leaven?


Entered at Sun Jul 2 11:28:01 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Is it just me or does Barney Hoskyns mispronounce Levon when he talks about Levon Helm? I'm watching a documentary on Bob Dylan & The Band and it seems he says it in a strange way.


Entered at Sat Jul 1 21:29:40 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

More soberingly, JQ, follow your article, you could be Norm. West Coast, etc.


Entered at Sat Jul 1 21:27:25 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ. If not for their becoming extinct, we could all be fucking dinosaurs.


Entered at Sat Jul 1 18:15:34 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Web: My link

Subject: We Could Have Been Canada

A good read for us Yanks -


Entered at Sat Jul 1 16:28:03 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Happy Birthday Kenneda!


Entered at Sat Jul 1 14:38:06 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Found It

Found it under different prices. Cheapest one is $40.00 U.S.


Entered at Sat Jul 1 14:34:31 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Thanks Peter. Looking for it now.


Entered at Sat Jul 1 10:38:51 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Allmans

Link is to the page here … of course, the image comes from this site! By the note on the page which I have no memory of writing, I sent this one into Jan.


Entered at Sat Jul 1 10:36:06 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Beacon Allmans

John D: sorry, tied up yesterday. The title is "The Allman Brothers Band LIVE: 40h Anniversary 1969 - 2009" recorded Beacon Theatre, NY March 9th 2009. It's a 3 CD set on Peach Records and Produced by the Allman Brothers Band. Levon appears on those 3 tracks, and Taj on 2 more. They're both on The Weight.

It's not on Amazon UK either … I just checked through 12 pages without finding it. Search for it using IMAGES. The first few have a different disc 2 with Bob Weir and Chuck Leavel and they do Dead numbers and Jessica. But if you keep looking you'll find a rear sleeve with the Levon / Taj tracks. Both versions seem to have the same sleeve design and the same CD1 and CD3.


Entered at Sat Jul 1 07:31:49 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: BB Gabor

One of my regrets is passing up going to see BB Gabor in favour of a Who tribute band back in the spring of 1984. To be honest I was out with friends and we took a vote (mine being the lone one to see Mr. Gabor). That's democracy for ya!


Entered at Sat Jul 1 07:29:21 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

As Canada Day is upon us, I guess it is time to dust off (metaphorically speaking that is) the Stompin' Tom Connors mp3s.... ; )


Entered at Sat Jul 1 04:23:54 CEST 2017 from (74.12.34.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

Subject: best free bar music

Thanks JQ and Peter V for your posts. Opposite ends of the spectrum - both you two and the two musicians. I have nothing at all comparable name wise, but I do recall an absolute killer set at Grossman's Tavern in Toronto, which was always, and still is, no cover. The band was BB Gabor and Instaband, local guys with no name recognition - except perhaps keyboardist David Stone, freshly back from touring as part of Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow. Would have been '79, so there was a tinge of punk to a couple of them and some of the music. Three encores, which I'd never seen before (or since). I'd've linked to their 'big' song, "Soviet Jewellery" if Janny Cash hadn't remove the possibility, but it can be YouTubed - and should be.


Entered at Fri Jun 30 20:46:43 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Dance Me To The End Of Love - Yiddish


Entered at Fri Jun 30 19:39:24 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Mike - Bartender : Gimme an Oy Kenneda! - that's Canadian Club with a schpritz of selzter, on the rocks.


Entered at Fri Jun 30 17:25:19 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Best free show

Summer 1971 and on my way to Yosemite for some acid-fueled backpacking. In a crowded VW bug with 2 buddies. Driving through Bakersfield at 100+ degrees. The bowling alley sign said: "Refrigerated Air". So in we went to find that Merle Haggard was doing an afternoon deal for about 50 people. It was great and it was this performance that had me appreciate what a talented singer Merle was. We were deeply loaded and the crowd was deeply red and buzzed-cut. You can imagine the stew of fun, drug & Budweiser intoxication and tamped-down paranoia in that sort of mix! I don't think I'm embellishing as this story has been recounted by us 3 many times through the years - maybe even here??


Entered at Fri Jun 30 15:13:40 CEST 2017 from (174.95.199.216)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: O Kaneda

Jeff, for you on this day tomorrow, "Mir shteyen bay dayn zayt."


Entered at Fri Jun 30 14:23:50 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Allman Brothers 40th Peter V

Peter I have scoured the internet and iTunes to find this CD you mention of the 40th anniversary tour. Everything that shows up is the 40th anniversary concert live at The Beacon Theatre on DVD onlt and none of the songs you mentioned are on the set list. Are you sure you meant 40th anniversary tour; because I can't find it anywhere on the net. Thanks.


Entered at Fri Jun 30 11:16:05 CEST 2017 from (86.158.93.27)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks Bill, Jeff and Jed. I'm watching 'After The Crash' just now. It must be 40 years since I heard 'Live at the Fillmore East'. But I do play the collection album every few months. But, sadly, I would say their impact in the UK is very little.

I recently watched 'Down In The Flood'. Finally got around to it. I enjoyed it and thought Barney Hoskyns, Sid Griffen, Garth and John Simon were good.

It took me back to a talk I posted about many years ago. At the Perth Festival many years ago, I was lucky to hear Sid Griffen speak on the Basement Tapes. He was excellent, played songs and was supported by Rod Clements. Then a meal in a great French restaurant and a concert in the evening dedicated to the songs of Hank Williams, with leading Scottish and American musicians. Brilliant day.


Entered at Fri Jun 30 09:15:30 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Allman Bros

The other Allman Brothers band CD I have is "Live 40th Anniversary Tour" which I bought for Disc 2, with Ophelia, I Shall Be Released and The Weight with Levon Helm and Larry Cambell & Teresa Williams guesting. Taj Mahal does 44 Blues and Statesboro Blues and joins in on The Weight. I just picked it off the shelf and see the ABB do I Walk On Gilded Splinters, which I had forgotten.

As I might have mentioned no more than 5 or 6 times, the very best free bar gig I ever saw was Taj Mahal at the bar in EuroDisney hotel area … I just walked past and it said "Disney Jazz Festival - Taj Mahal 7.30." It was 6 pm. Abandoning Mrs V and The Kids to the hotel pizzeria, I went in. Too crowded to get to the bar. Free. Taj cracking jokes in French to massive applause. This was "soul band" Taj with horn section too.


Entered at Fri Jun 30 04:56:14 CEST 2017 from (173.3.51.68)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

You guys are getting boring. Norm, send me your PayPal address. I wanna buy you a case of Molson or LaBatt's or whatever it is you drink up there. Extreme times call for extreme measures. Time to liven things up around here.


Entered at Fri Jun 30 03:29:06 CEST 2017 from (173.3.51.68)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Sony Pressing Vinyl.

Linked


Entered at Fri Jun 30 00:06:05 CEST 2017 from (100.33.245.182)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: The Best(Allman Brothers) is LIVE!/GD-ABB Parallel

Despite what I wrote and no matter the year, the best of the Allmans is live and therefore not limited to the Fillmore.In most of their different eras & lineups, there have been "epic" (a way overused word these days)shows as recognized by its most hard core fans & the band itself.The Fillmore shows are simply the most well known & most polished.So although the last lineup peaked in 2007,their 2009 anniversary show & 3/20/09 performance with EC were indeed, monumental. The Allmans & the Grateful Dead have very parallel histories and both are "grandparents" of todays mumbo jumbo so called jam scene.Anyone here see the new 4 hour Bar-Lev Dead doc? The Allmans could have a bookend story alongside that film.


Entered at Thu Jun 29 18:06:08 CEST 2017 from (100.33.245.182)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Allmans

I take it I'm the lone Allmans hard core here.Got into them late in 1970 & have seen them close to 150 times.They went through numerous lineup changes through the years-the originals were the best & the Dickey/Chuck/Lamar lineup was stellar as well.The Toler years were not good ones, no fault of the Tolers but a rough bunch of shows.The Betts/Haynes/Woody years were powerful & the Seven Turns album from that group was excellent.The Betts/Pearson years were sublime until Betts overpowered the engines with noise & booze & Butch & Betts were literally about to kill one another.The Dickey/Derek era was all too brief till Betts got booted.Derek & Jimmy Herring was a brief albeit interesting period & The Haynes/Derek era was great until 2007 when illness & other issues took over.So sad to see it end the way it has & that Butch & Gregg passed-the last show,10/28/14 was pure joy and the many Gregg solo shows were pure joy.As were the Betts & Great Southern shows through the years.


Entered at Thu Jun 29 17:12:58 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Allman Bros

Bill M - I like those 2 sides too, although I prefer You Don't Love Me the most, particularly its more swinging parts. I think they were mostly a jam-band then. I recall that after seeing them I thought: a 2-hour show with only 5 or 6 songs! I sometimes use the 2-3 minute bit off mountain jam, near the end where they slow down into a lullaby sound, as an instrumental segue before a news break. Eat A Peach was the last one I bought. Didn't one of The Band guys take a hard swing at the ABB once?


Entered at Wed Jun 28 23:49:50 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: For me, the ultimate Allman Brothers Band album would have the Fillmore version of "Whipping Post" on one side and the "Eat A Peach" version of "Mountain Jam" on the other. (The latter is built on Donovan's "First There Is A Mountain", so it's almost Scottish, right?)


Entered at Wed Jun 28 18:06:35 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Dunc, i'd recommend picking up either the Live at Fillmore East ( which you are familiar with) or Eat a Peach. Both are brilliant, Eat A Peach is more diverse....


Entered at Wed Jun 28 10:39:30 CEST 2017 from (86.158.93.27)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Just too much music

Thanks, Haso. I play the Best of the Allman Brothers Band. I bought this because it was the only one on the local CD/record shop and because of people talking about them in the GB many years ago. Also I knew Live at Fillmore East, which was relatively well known back in the day. Peter had me googling, and the Allman Brothers achieved little in the UK. I thought they had done better.

But there is just too much music. I enjoy the Transatlantic Sessions, Maura O' Connell's 'Helpless Heart' and my first Jesse Winchester, 'Humour Me'. Great musicianship on these recordings, which took me into Jerry Douglas, Bela Fleck, Russ Barenberg, Edgar Meyer, Stuart Duncan et al. Didn't realise the same musicians were on these recordings. Very enjoyable, but I like the music best when they are supporting a singer and there is a bass and drums. However, the standard of musicianship is exceptional. Great stuff.


Entered at Wed Jun 28 08:15:31 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Spotify crushes 200 million dollar songwriter lawsuit

See the link. And there are some real interesting detailed articles regarding that lawsuit & the basis of it if you google.



Entered at Wed Jun 28 00:11:26 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, Lauderdale is excellent, but- he ain't no Rodney Crowell. 140 miles is excessive.


Entered at Wed Jun 28 00:08:28 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: The First Ever Yiddish Vocal Performance of O' Canada

Linked.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 23:57:33 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I had tickets for Rodney Crowell and Jim Lauderdale for 26 July. Rodney Crowell cancelled so we took the refund. Jim Lauderdale is now headlining in his place, but it's 140 miles and an overnight stay and `I hadn't heard of him. Plus without Rodney Crowell you would expect a price drop. I will look out for him nearer to home.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 20:34:26 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Jim Lauderdale II

JQ, his website says:

Produced by Neil Brockbank (Nick Lowe) and Robert Trehern in two sessions at Gold Top Studios in London, London Southern is a genre skipping collection of brilliantly written songs with a variety of distinguished collaborators helping along the way, including: Odie Blackmon, Kendell Marvel, John Oates and Dan Penn.

I just finished my seconds spin, and it's a damn good record.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 20:09:55 CEST 2017 from (107.77.97.119)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Jim Lauderdale's new one and Nick Lowe's band

BL - I'm a fan of Jim L too; he's done a lot of work organizing the whole Americana thing. Nick L's band took a real hit with the loss of Bobby Irwin/Robert Treherne and then very recently he lost his terrific producer Neil Brockbank too. He still uses Getaint Watkins I believe- do they list his band mates on that JL deal?


Entered at Tue Jun 27 19:51:02 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Jim Lauderdale's London Southern

NPR First Listen is offering up Jim Lauderdale's new "London Southern" disk for streaming for the next couple of days. Described as "tipping his hat to the British invasion", while it's a very good record and a departure from his normal country and bluegrass sound from a guy who who has about as many facets and is almost as prolific as Mr. Costello (with whom he as toured), I'm not sure I get the connection. Peter, maybe you could spot the influences but I can not. Echos of Van the Man, Nick Lowe (whose backup band is employed) and the aforementioned Declan MacManus. His Southern twang is not entirely gone but I don't think that's a bad thing. I had opportunity to meet Mr. Lauderdale and he is a humble and gracious gentleman. Check it out.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 18:15:16 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

JQ: You're right - and I'd say that such conflations and assumptions is one of humanity's specialties, which is not to say it's commendable.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 16:02:49 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Anecdotes

Bill M - Conflating these into gross ussumptions might just be what humans do. They make for interesting conversation but could also be the basis of prejudice, racism, xenophobia, and gossip. Although, someone with genuine expertise and experience can glean a lot from scant info.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 16:01:04 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.247)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, as you are aware, kids should be treasured, but shaped with amusement, stimulation, & often nonobvious guidance & lessons. there's a million ways to teach a kid without preaching. It'all invaluable, & kids should have fun, & interact in the world. I know you would be a paradigm of raising a kid respectfully in the world.... What's going on here today is nuts. Parents are ltting their kids run amok. And the upper middle class, or upper class, are at the top of the heap, their kids may be worse than kids growing up in the projects. I see three year olds running loose on crowded streets in Park Slope & other high tone areas, & 6 to 10 year olds riding various wheeled contraptions down crowded streets at peak hours. Parents could be a half block to a block away And have no care that the kids could hurt some one else.Maybe a month ago I had two run ins before 9 AM. The first was 7:30 or so, with a 50 ish guy who I had walked behind for a short block, passed when he stopped to tie his shoe. The guy was dressed expensively, way too many clothes though, on a warm day.... We were on a wide sidewalk & I was walking practically on the curb. He passes me & somehow manages to clip me with his bag. he had to know, but never apologized.. big guy. I was in a mood & said something like: this sidewalk ain't fucking wide enough for you? The guy turns around & curses me, with a heavy Russian accent, kept walking . I unleashed a barrage. Ten feet late he curses me again. I unleashed another barrage. This kept up till we got to the station & went up on opposite sides, headed in the opposite direction. Two trains later, I'm walking DOWN 9 street in Park Slope. It's wide sidewalk too, on a main thoroughfare, & descends on a good grade, from 7th to 6th ave, I'm over hlfway down, & I hear rollers. moving fast... I turn & see some big kid, 16, 17 years old, about 6' tall, flying down on a skateboard. Now it's rush hour, people walking dogs, people going to the train, kids going to school, elderly people. I step to the side, & as the kid passed me, I asked him What the fuck is wrong with you? He put on the brakes & stopped, which took him some distance, picked up his board, & he says something like What's wrong with you. The kid's all american Irish faced, clean, in a t shirt & shorts, on a school day, looked like a Prep school kid... did not look like a wise ass, I'm walking towards him & respond, Are you nuts?- I know you you don't want to hurt some one, some old person, some little kid- The kid says something else, I'm getting close to him & tell him hey your father would beat the piss out of you if he saw you doing this. The kid got on his board before I reached him, went away real slow through people, then made the turn, & went slow past a church /grade school with people in front. That was two episodes before 9 AM... I said to my self, get your ass home before number three might be a winner. I had some stops to make, got home a few hours later, left to go back to Park Slope round 4:30. transferring trains in Coney Island & get on a train car & am greeted by a pigeon.....The meeting was perfect. The next morning the light bulb went off & i wrote a song out of that. You'll know it when you hear it.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 15:40:15 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: landfill

Peter V: Probably, but why would you do it. "Hold off Tony - I want to count that pile and then multiply in case the Times comes by like last year. Get me name in the paper, like." To bring in bus drivers again, the Toronto Star always used to find one willing to say, at the end of the first big snowstorm every year, "I've been driving for 35 years and I've never seen anything like this before."


Entered at Tue Jun 27 09:09:55 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: Landfill

Counting or not? I guess you pile up fifty or a hundred and just count how many piles the same size there are and give a rough figure.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 09:07:23 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

As some one who often pushes a stroller, I am the epitome of courtesy, but I agree, some people use them as weapons. I’ve had some hard knocks from people using them to go very fast through crowds. What I hate seeing is someone pushing the stroller ahead aggressively to stop traffic suddenly and cross the street. Play chicken with the cars if you want, but don’t make the kid do it!

If you’re with kids, cities and countries vary enormously. The UK’s in the middle. Italy, Greece and Spain are the extreme end of welcoming and helpful. I’ve found the USA better than the UK … not necessarily in NYC though. The worst city is Paris. I was taking two small kids off the Metro, and two railway guards in uniform literally pulled the kid off my hand and pushed through between us. I said “Be careful of the children!’ (in French) and got the finger and “Fuck off, English man.” This is from Metro officials. Then we were in the lift in the Louvre. A late middle aged couple pushed past the children and proceeded to say “Why do these idiots bring children here?” The other said, “Don’t worry. They’re English. They can’t speak French.” When the lift arrived, I said in French, “Do you speak English?” “Yes, of course …” and I managed not to swear, but simply point out in my most polite manner that their rudeness was extraordinary and that they were a disgrace to their country. But it was the same everywhere in Paris (except EuroDisney). BTW, my French relatives from the South agree entirely about Paris and added several more examples. I had an Irish colleague with two kids who worked there and changed jobs to get out because of the bad public attitude to children.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 05:24:29 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.64)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Greg, as you know, NYC bus drivers got a brutal job. It was never easy, but the population has exploded, courtesy & consideration is gone. People are disgusting, inconsiderate, & you have too many people on these buses to start. then add the shopping carts, strollers, laundry, people eating fish, chicken with hot sauce, McDonalds, etc.. I really only take buses at off times, & trains mostly too. But you never know...

Decorum is gone, people just don't care. he things you witness are unreal..Also the drivers they gotta deal with... Just way too many cars, & they double & triple park, park in bus stops, stop in the middle of busy avenues, make u turns in the dumbest places, I swear some of these drivers are trying to get hit. Sometimes i hang out with the drivers & make em laugh...

trains- you'd be amazed how homeless people can sleep on the train all day long. When a train pulls up & i start to get on, if i catch that putrid smell I know some poor homeless person is on, or was on. I've seen as many as four sleeping in one car at the same time...

Hustlers, people hustling for change or bucks constantly. All kids of come ons, including just getting in a persons face & not leaving. Some filthy , really bad off guy sat next to a woman last week, hassled her to go through her pocketbook & look for a dollar. He was in bad shape, long term street person.... I told her to get up & walk away- he started to follow her & another guy & I yelled at him, then we landed at a stop & switched cars.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 05:24:31 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

GregD: Twice I've written a full response/contribution to the CTV,/CBC music-show string, and twice the thing disappeared. So I'm just going to say that I attended two tapings of the Gzowski show at the CBC studio on Yonge north of Bloor - one to see the reunion of the Dirty Shames, Amos Garrett's popular folk/ragtime quartet from the mid '60s, and the other to see Zal Yanovsky and John Sebastian appear together. I think you said '77, which sounds right.

Re strollers on transit, I can't imagine any sane person expecting anyone with a stroller (with baby in it, presumably) to hump the thing out the back door of a bus. One, it's narrow. Two, some only open when you stand on the step, and if the stroller goes first there's not enough weight. Three, with other doors you have to push them open, but they're spring loaded and they push back - threatening to hit baby in the chops.

Peter V: If they went to the trouble of actually counting all the blessed leftovers, why didn't they provide the raw data rather than rounding to 9500, 6500, etc. Anyway, is all this counting a British trainspotting thing? Counting roll-mats, counting tents, counting who voted for Corbyn and who didn't ... - or did they do DNA swabs of the leftovers to get at that data?


Entered at Tue Jun 27 04:39:33 CEST 2017 from (218.94.151.201)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: Strollerin' on the river

Jeff A.-I can understand your frustration with the strollers on the train. I have a good friend who is a city transit bus driver. Every time we get together the conversations are usually one-sided with him regaling me of his latest incidents with passengers. His main nemesis is...you guessed it...people (normally young ladies) with strollers! According to him, they have little regard for other passengers and act like they own the bus. They ignore the "on at the front door, off at the back" rule and proceed to block the front doorway and aisle. He has so many different incidents daily I've told him to write them down and publish them even if I buy the only copy.

Also agree on Haynes, although he is a good guitarist, and the darling of the jam band set through his association with the Allmans, Dead, Phil Lesh etc. he doesn't do much for me. He does seem to get involved with various tributes for the Band, Levon etc.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 02:54:03 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.64)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Haso, I don't believe Randall has any relation to Delaney, & he's certainly too old to be Delaney & Bonnie's son, he's a peer age wise. You know Bonnie is from Granite City, just a stone's throw from Alton.

That last Allman's incarnation, i know I saw em once with Haynes, maybe twice, not sure if Trucks was in..... it was late 80s so i guess not...... I wasn't impressed, & never been on video or radio either...It's possible i didn't listen enough to Derek, but I must say, Haynes leaves me empty. I've seen him in larger shows ( including he & Little Milton & John Mayer in a Buddy Guy thing that was part of some other thing) , & guest with people quite a few times.People rave about his playing, & he's got a reputation for being a helluva nice guy. But his guitar work just don't hit home for me. Government Mule- geez, what's the big deal about?


Entered at Tue Jun 27 02:10:53 CEST 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: Sea Level/ festivals

Peter, you've restored my faith. If you've got the 1st Allman Bros record and the original Fillmore East, you're in good hands. Wipe the windows seemed like kind of cheap money to me, too.

Yeah, Jeff, they are a bit of a deep cut but Sea Level's very interesting. I've had the "Cats on the Coast" lp for years. That group included Randall Bramblett who toured later w/ Gregg and his backup band, Cowboy. I always assumed that he might be Delaney & Bonnie's son, but don't know. What was your take on the last iteration of the Brothers w/ Otell on bass, Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes and the 3rd drummer Rey Quinones adding a Latino flair? I'm not sure but that one could make an argument for Derek picking up Duane's mantle as well as anyone ever has.

JQ, not enough folks around like you. I've always envied a local friend since she told us that her brother used to do security at Fillmore East and she got to see all kinds folks, Duane/Berry, our 5 boys, I think Janis and others. Oh well.

You folks are right on rudeness and a lack of valuing one's goods. That said, I recall an acquaintance north of here who related his time at Watkins Glen in '74. It rained there, too, as it had at Yasgur's farm. He said you could have filled 3 tractor trailers w/ just the sleeping bags that were left behind.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 01:34:19 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.64)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

About a month or so ago two women & one man boarded a crowded Saturday train with a occupied baby stroller each, & remained in the doorway. The next stop, they refused to move to let people off. I had two stops to go.... When i was a stop away I looked at the guy & told him: hey you're backing off at the next stop & letting me off. The woman next to me, who had a stroller & baby, said Good, I'm right behind you... The guy didn't respond... One of the women said there's no where to go yet . I said you get off at the stop & let people off. The guy backed off at the next stop & a bunch of us got off. Morons... who think no one exists but them. Saturdays are rush hour all day & night. You want to travel with three strollers, rent a fucking car.. Take a cab....don't inconvenience the rest of NYC.


Entered at Tue Jun 27 00:50:11 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.64)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Different world today Pete.Manners & consideration are in short supply. I'm way over do for some serious spinal surgeries, that I'm not gonna do. Too much to discuss. But I've had surgeons tell me not to make one false move....So, I shouldn't be getting into fights. But, too often I see young people & grown men sitting in seats on the train or bus while elderly people with bags are standing & holding on dear life. On the bus they sit in seats designated for elderly & disabled people & don't give their seats up. Other stoopid things, one after the other. I usually end up saying something, & it goes various ways. I've had teenagers tell me to mind my business, & refuse to give up their seats- that the old people should ask for em.... I'm talking middle class, clean cut kids, open up mouths to me..... One time an old black woman backed me up, really laid into a bunch of kids who finally gave a few of their seats up after she opened her yap.... The people who wack me with their knapsacks, again, it could be a 60 year old man or woman, or a kid,, drive me nuts. I've taken to warning people- hey, don't forget you're wearing a weapon... - Huh? - Your knapsack buddy, you're too close for comfort.......When i get hit, i usually push em back, regardless of whether they're twenty, forty or fifty... Closer calls all the time.... Me, i never sit on the bus or train...If you're gonna catch an attack, you're better off standing. And also, it's too easy to fall asleep, & then you're a sitting duck for robbery, anything...


Entered at Mon Jun 26 09:51:49 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Talking 'bout THEIR generation …

Tucked away in the Sunday Times. In 2015, the (this year) Corbynista crowd at Glastonbury Festival walked away leaving 6500 sleeping bags, 5,500 tents, 3,500 airbeds, 2200 chairs and 950 roll mats. While as many as possible were given to charity, most went to landfill. This is particularly difficult because you shouldn't put waterproof items into landfill. Pop up tents are really cheap nowadays. I guess £60 or £70 for three days? Throw it away.


Entered at Mon Jun 26 05:50:40 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Allman Brothers

I was lucky enough to see the original lineup shortly before Duane died. It was at the Santa Monica Civic. I was a huge fan of the Fillmore LPs going into that. It seemed the group was set up to showcase Duane. And he was great. But I also recall being gobsmacked at Berry Oakley's playing that night; the most impressive overall bass thing I'd ever heard live up til then.


Entered at Sun Jun 25 18:52:50 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Web: My link

Subject: Bob D - genius??

I found this interesting -


Entered at Sun Jun 25 18:39:33 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Web: My link

Subject: Nick Lowe

PV posted this song during a brief run of rockabilly notes here - here's NL doing it again a couple weeks ago in NYC. It seemed all devotees in attendance for a 3-night run. And me!


Entered at Sun Jun 25 18:32:31 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.64)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Speaking of Sea Level, their guitarist Jimmy Nalls just died. 66 years old. He battled Parkinson's since the 90s.


Entered at Sun Jun 25 11:03:29 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

As often mentioned, I'd guess "Jessica" is the ABB all-time highest earner, as "Top Gear" is shown in virtually every country in the world and is hugely popular. Also TV themes pay up. I have a CD of the original Fillmore East … and an LP of the original The Allman Brothers, which is what I found when moving stuff. I'd forgotten it … I recall a DJ in a club in Frankfurt saying "I've got two of these if you want one." He also gave me his duplicate of the European "Hey Jude" LP.

I also found Wipe The Windows, Check The Oil recently, which was cheap in a charity shop and I picked it up for the sleeve design. I've only played it once and found it a tad generic. There must be a decent article on why "Southern Rock" failed to sell so well in Britain … though it could be as simple as wrong label or wrong pluggers.


Entered at Sun Jun 25 02:17:16 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.157)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Yes Haso, though Brothers & Sisters is a great album, the Duane & Berry Brothers version of the band was frigging amazing & different. Oakley was a mutha on bass. that said, so was Lamar Williams, of course, they were different, but both amazing.... Aside from the ABB, Williams was also in Sea Level with Jaimoe & Chuck Leavell, that was another brilliant band- for anyone unfamiliar if you can find their recording your ears will be ecstatic...It was a double drum band too.when Joe English was injured, they offered the other drum spot to my cousin, Mike Kimmel...who turned it down to stay home with his new twin daughters........ Williams son, Lamar Jr is a singer, was fin Les Brers, Butch Trucks band, till Trucks checked out.


Entered at Sun Jun 25 01:41:51 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.157)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Pertinent to the Bass part of the conversation, since March, one of the true badasses is on tour with Bryan Ferry. I speak of Neil Jason. And Chris Spedding is on .Still left on the tour are shows in Belgium, France, Switzerland, Spain, CANADA, The U.S. , Russia & Estonia.

Neil is a Brooklyn boy, toured with Miles Davis, The Nevilles, Levon,Spyro Gyra , Brecker Brothers, ,worked with The Stones, it's a long list... He's on my project that i should finish this year. The Canadian shows are in Vancouver, Alberta, & Winnipeg


Entered at Sat Jun 24 18:35:39 CEST 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: rhythym section and Peter V's listening room

If it's ok, I'd like to cycle back a couple of weeks ago. Last time I got Johnny Cash-ed, so hoping Jan let's this through.

Back a bit, Dunc and b.lee as well as others were talking bass/drums and parts of the rhythym section. Clearly b.lee knows seriously whereof he/she speaks. Unlike others here (Peter, Al Edge, Jeff A.; I'm just an everyday consumer of music, not a player, critic, producer etc.), so like you, Dunc, it's taken me some to really hear the bass and the intricacies of drumming as easily as guitar parts. Even though one of my earliest musician friends (soph year in h.s., just about when the Brown album came out) was a bass player. (For glenn t. that would be Mark Miller at the Upper School, he and the late, great Oliver Troster, 1st played me Allman Bros., Muddy, Sonny Boy and John Lee Hooker). Ok, so for the bass player discussion... I seem to recall someone, perhaps Carol Caffin, talking about how you could tell when Ricky was really into things because he'd start bouncing. I've noticed at times at TLW and even in the few clips from Wembley, he looks pretty bouncy.

Now, Peter, you were clearing up your listening room. This was not long after Gregg Allman passed. I know you've said they didn't penetrate all that much on your side of the "pond". My only suggestion, is, if your main piece of exposure is Brothers & Sisters, then, as w/ most aficianados, you'd want to listen to more of their live recordings. Especially anything from early on when Duane and Berry Oakley were still alive. There's a nice compendium that came out not long after Robbie and Sebastian got the LatAcademy recordings out. It's called The 1971 Fillmore East Recordings... w/ all the variety of guests, the jazz-like improvisational nature of the Allmans take on blues comes out. At least to the untrained ears of this scribe. For me, Brothers & Sisters is almost like judging Spielberg on just "the 3rd Kind"; ok, but ultimately too popular and incomplete.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

GB filters softened. Plz report any problems. Thanks.


Entered at Sat Jun 24 14:54:39 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ian Anderson Bill M

Bill you remember the Canadian Ian Anderson, not to be confused with the JT lead singer. He was the producer of the "In Session" program filmed at CHCH in Hamilton. It was a brilliant premise. He would bring two very big singer songwriters; from different backgrounds and pair them together. It was a great show.


Entered at Sat Jun 24 14:49:15 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: CFTO

Yes they were filmed at the Agincourt studios at was then called CFTO Channel 9. The station first signed on the air at 10:00 p.m. on December 31, 1960; its first official day of programming was on January 1, 1961. The inaugural programme broadcast on CFTO was a telethon hosted by Joel Aldred, complete with a fireworks ceremony. The telethon was for what was then known as the Ontario Association for Community Living (now Community Living Ontario). The station was founded by Baton-Aldred-Rogers Broadcasting, a joint venture between Telegram Corporation (owned by the Bassett and Eaton families), Aldred-Rogers Broadcasting (owned by Joel Aldred & E.S. Rogers) and Foster Hewitt Broadcasting (owners of radio station CKFH (1430 AM, now CJCL on 590 AM)). The Baton portion of the name was pronounced /ˌbætən/ (as in Baton Rouge, Louisiana), rather than the conducting tool's traditional pronunciatio.

My wife danced on The Uncle Bobby Show there as well; when she was a girl. First show I remember being filmed there was Professor Hideaway. Don't remember the actor who played the Professor.


Entered at Sat Jun 24 14:49:18 CEST 2017 from (96.20.207.56)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Reading this thread over the past few days about Rolling On The River, In Session, and other shows produced by CTV. I remember that the In Session show did not have a set time. I do remember seeing an episode with Dave Mason and Spencer Davis. I believe that it was recorded at CHCH in Hamilton. As a side note, I knew a family that owned a rather well known "Big And Tall" clothing store across the street from the studio. After taping wrestling matches there, all the wrestlers would go across the street, get fitted for suits, and then have a lavish supper provided by the owner's wife, as the family lived upstairs from the shop.


Entered at Sat Jun 24 04:24:01 CEST 2017 from (218.94.151.201)

Posted by:

GregD

Bill M/Bonk- I'm also certain that both shows were CTV/CFTO and so they would likely have been filmed at Agincourt. If tapings of both shows overlapped there cetainly could have been the potential for some interesting jam sessions. The Ronnie Prophet show came along a little later but likely was filmed there as well.

CBC in the mid-70's featured the short-lived 90 Minutes Live with the late Peter Gzowski featuring Flo and Eddie as musical cohosts who brought in various musical acts including Bowie. 1977 comes to mind as I remember them doing a show about the 10th anniversary of the release of Sgt. Pepper.


Entered at Fri Jun 23 21:54:48 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bonk: I think both were CTV, not CBC. Maybe CFTO studios in Agincourt?


Entered at Fri Jun 23 17:26:55 CEST 2017 from (70.67.174.238)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Bill M

Where do you think it was taped? Parliament Street or Yonge and Marlborough Ave.


Entered at Fri Jun 23 15:51:59 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

GregD / Bonk: We're all right. I looked it up, and the show started as RotW, but was renamed just "Rollin'". Around the same period, "Nashville North" became "The Ian Tyson Show". I believe Amos and Buddy were in the band at the start, but David Wilcox had replaced Garrett by season 2. I remember Billy Mundi from the Mothers (and more importantly our guys' "Moondog Matinee") being the drummer at some later point. If the two shows overlapped, as I believe they did, it'd be nice to think of them taping in Toronto at the same time and the musicians getting together to jam.


Entered at Fri Jun 23 09:15:23 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Heritage TV

So many great TV shows were lost, due to re-using video tape. It sounds incredible now. The deserved reputation of I Love Lucy relies on the then weird decision to shoot it on film. So it survives. Apparently Dave Clark (Dave Clark Five) spent years buying up every surviving pop / rock show that he could, but like Dave Clark Five albums on CD, little has been released.There are odds and bits … two "lost" Dad's Army sitcoms were found. the originals were wiped, but copies had been sent to a Australian TV station which had kept them.

I am having a great trawl through our stock of old TVs and computers in the attic, and have set up a late tube TV with a VHS and Betamax in my record store room. I was looking for a new screen and the guy in the shop told me he'd done the same. Totally right … VHS looks horrible on a modern HD screen, but perfectly watchable on a TV. Some of my own stuff was never on DVD. Even transferred to DVD, it's still 4:3 and VHS quality.


Entered at Fri Jun 23 08:26:32 CEST 2017 from (218.94.151.201)

Posted by:

GregD

Bill M/Bonk- I do think that Bonk is correct and that the name was indeed Rollin'. Mickey Jones was definitely on drums, at least for most of what I remember, hence the Band connection. I have vague recollections of the Hawk performing on there as well.

The other local production that provided some interesting entertainment was "In Session" out of CHCH-TV in Hamilton. One of the better ones I remember featured Emmy Lou and her Hot Band with Rodney Crowell, Roseanne Cash, the incomparable Albert Lee and others, complete with a small spousal dispute between Mr. Crowell and Ms.Cash.


Entered at Fri Jun 23 04:23:05 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

GregD: I would have said "Rollin' on the River", but Bonk's probably right. Early '70s, so I'm not sure why I don't recall more about it that I do. Mickey Jones still on drums, Kin Vassy on guitar - a couple years before his big R&R moment, doing the 'Yippy-I-O-Kiyay' on Zappa's "Moving To Montana" (Frank's most Bandish song). I do remember seeing Ronnie Hawkins on the show, and I'm pretty sure that that's where I saw Ronnie and Bo Diddley performing together.


Entered at Fri Jun 23 02:03:31 CEST 2017 from (67.84.76.110)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: The Slow Death Of The Electric Guitar

Linked

Long article, lots of interesting facts & informed perspectives.... Well worth reading.

Grab a six pack & a piss bucket if you don't have indoor plumbing yet.


Entered at Fri Jun 23 01:54:25 CEST 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Greg D

Rollin?


Entered at Fri Jun 23 01:03:16 CEST 2017 from (218.94.151.201)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: just checkin' in...

Bill M- you're absolutely correct. I left the esteemed Mr. Zimmerman off of my list and it would no doubt have generated quite a buzz in the GB and elsewhere. While we're at, and speaking of variety shows (sort of) do you (or anyone else) remember the name of the show that used to be on CTV (at least in Southern Ontario) hosted by Kenny Rogers and the First Edition during his pre-country "Just Checkin' in to See What Condition My Condition is in" era in the late 60's-early 70's? I used to watch that show with some regularity but in a semi-senior moment I shamefully can't think of the name and don't have Youtube or Google at hand at the moment. They used to have some interesting acts on there.


Entered at Thu Jun 22 17:07:03 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'm of the opinion that if they've survived in work this long, performers must have some special quality.


Entered at Thu Jun 22 14:53:02 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

GregD: In addition to Young and Lennon, Dylan would have gotten away with the spuds-bone chant. The GB alone would have been filled for a day with posts along the lines of "Kudos to Bob for stepping outside his comfort zone".

Peter V: Over the years I've heard many, including myself, say things like "They'd have to pay me to see XXX". But you actually went through with it. Do others here have similar stories?


Entered at Thu Jun 22 13:31:28 CEST 2017 from (218.94.151.201)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: Young Neil-Got Mashed Potatoes, Ain't Got No T-Bone!

I agree in general with the comments posted here about "Everybody's Rockin'". I liked the album but thought it was much too short as Peter V. noted. I prefer the Band's version of Mystery Train but thought he gave a good shot at "Bright Lights Big City" and some others which he did perform live. It was a project that he took seriously and was understandably greatly offended by the Geffen lawsuit.

Landing on Water was a record I never could take to. Someone taped it for me and it was one of the few Neil that I didn't purchase at the time. Trans was actually an amalgam of a couple of records including one which Geffen apparently rejected, hence the somewhat disjointed effect. His previous record Re.ac.tor, the last one for Reprise at the time, featured some good songs, but only Mr. Young, with the possible exception of late-60's John Lennon, could get away with releasing something like "T-Bone" featuring 9+ minutes of the mantra "Got Mashed Potatoes, Ain't Got No T-Bone" chanted over and over again to the same repetitive guitar riff.


Entered at Thu Jun 22 12:41:14 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Performers

"Down Where The Drunkards Roll" by Maura O'Connell sounds as if it had always been Irish!

Those 60s variety shows, were like rock shows. Your reputation as "a performer" outweighed chart success. So in the ballrooms, Long John Baldry & Steampacket, The Alan Bown Set, Simon Dupree & The Big Sound, Zoot Money's Big Roll Band, Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band sold tickets faster than (say) The Kinks, The Who or The Searchers. Because they were known to give a great show.

Similarly, in spite of four UK number 1 hits, and only 3 or 4 years earlier, Frank Ifield did his summer season in the 1200 seat hall. But Frankie Vaughan, Tom Jones and Ken Dodd did their summer seasons in the 2000 seat hall. In Frankie Vaughan's case, he'd been established for ten years as a fantastic live act (which he was). Now I think back, it wasn't "free" - I was paid to watch Frank Ifield. It was because I was doing lights in the other hall, and they wanted an "understudy" to know enough about the equipment and show to be able to take over at the smaller hall. In fact, I never had to.

I'll link the "variety show" novel.


Entered at Thu Jun 22 10:13:23 CEST 2017 from (86.167.95.211)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Yes, it would be my mum who liked Frank Ifield. Interestingly when I read about him yesterday, I thought of the first of your sixties novels - the variety years. I really enjoyed it because it took me back to going to see variety shows, which I was lucky enough to do. You had to be tough to play Glasgow. Peter's sixties trilogy is a great achievement guys, if you've not read them.

Good choice of music, Peter. It's seen as a great Irish album, Peter, even the Richard Thompson song seems an Irish version. Some great Irish musicians and Jerry Douglas. Lyrics by WB Yates and Seamus Heaney. A host of brilliant traditional songs and the terrific Andy Irvine song, West Coast of Clare and Gerry O'Beirne's, The Shades of Gloria. You'll probably have seen Gerry O'Beirne playing with the Waterboys. Now, if I was a musician, I would be able to describe how he plays the guitar. And the greatest Irish voice. Hope you enjoyed the play, Peter. I had once read everything Edna 0'Brien had written.


Entered at Thu Jun 22 08:57:51 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Frank Ifield

The Wayward Wind … Frank Ifield specialized in reviving country-tinged oldies and imposing his yodel on them. As a result, he was the first artist after Elvis to have three UK #1 hits in a row … I Remember You, Lovesick Blues and The Wayward Wind. Then Nobody’s Darlin’ But Mine was a slight dip (UK #8) before getting his fourth UK #1 out of five with I’m Confessin’ (That I Love You). At the time, 1962 to 1963 Frank dominated the charts, and was everything we hated about our mum and dad’s music. For years I quoted his B-side She Taught Me To Yodel the worst record of all time. There are far worse though. I saw him on a summer show in 1967 (free, I was working the summer show in the other municipal venue in town). Nice open personality on stage.

I recall a folk club version of The Wayward Wind with rude lyrics, and wish I could remember the words.

Years ago on this site people were berating me for failing to "get" Hank Williams. In retrospect, the effect of Frank Ifield's Lovesick Blues was at fault. I have learned to appreciate Hank and expunge Frank's version from my memory.


Entered at Thu Jun 22 01:48:39 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Gogi Grant

I didn't realize. Gogi Grant died last Thursday! She was 91. I also didn't realize that, when she recorded "Wayward Wind", she knocked Elvis Presley off the top of the Bill Board Charts.


Entered at Thu Jun 22 00:04:31 CEST 2017 from (85.164.75.178)

Posted by:

jh

Location: Softening of the GB filters...

Any day now. Just need to find some time and inspiration to write Perl code again. Thanks for your patience.


Entered at Wed Jun 21 20:50:49 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Larry & Thresa

John D., one word...GO!


Entered at Wed Jun 21 20:28:33 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I drove to see the play of "The Country Girls" by Edna O'Brien in Chichester today, and played "Wandering Home" CD by Maura O'Connell both ways to get the mood right. Many thanks, Dunc!


Entered at Wed Jun 21 18:45:18 CEST 2017 from (86.167.95.211)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Wayward Wind

That's where i'll have heard it Peter...Frank Ifield. In our house there was 'I Remember You'. But it might have been in every house in the country. I never knew it was he, who had sung 'Wayward Wind'. I remember him yodeling.

I googled and he had huge record sales.

Thanks Rockin' Chair, I'll give them a look.


Entered at Wed Jun 21 17:36:57 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Gogi Grant - The Wayward Wind - 1956

I can't put up a link, so google it yourself Peter. Gogi and Tex Ritter both recorded this in '56. Gogi's was biggest in the US, Ritter's was biggest in the UK. Gogi Grant died earlier this year I believe.


Entered at Wed Jun 21 12:06:09 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Wayward Wind

Dunc, you have definitely heard The Wayward Wind long before Neil Young. It's a 50s song, but in Britain was #1 for Frank Ifield in 1963 (linked).


Entered at Tue Jun 20 18:50:08 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Larry Campbell & Teresa Williams

Larry Campbell, one time lead guitarist for Bob Dylan and Grammy Award Winning Producer for Levon Helm; along with his extremely talented vocalist partner, Teresa Williams will make their first Canadian appearance as a duo; at the Horseshoe Tavern, Tuesday July 18th.

They will be performing songs; from their yet to be released new album, Contraband Love; which will be released September 15th; on Redhouse Records; along with favourites they have performed in the past with The Ramble Band.


Entered at Tue Jun 20 17:26:27 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Old ways

Link to Neil Young on "Old ways".


Entered at Tue Jun 20 14:38:54 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.108)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Fred, you brought back Alex.. Welcome, Landmark.

Time for another soda argument started by innocent mention of brisket & hot dogs.

There's a lousy rag titled Brooklyn Magazine. It's produced magnificently, but is a waste of paper...Though it sucked prior to it's present condition, it's editorial & writing staff has been relegated to a bunch of insecure likely seriously neurotic young women, mostly non native New Yorkers, who think writing for a magazine means discussing their feelings. They also don't know how to construct a sentence or an article. During the winter one of theses women wrote about her trip to Montreal, & devoted a few pages to Montreal Bagels & the two majors... It was the best couple of pages in the edition.... Now the magazine dropped from monthly to quarterly publication....

Norm, There ain't no god, not even Neptune, that will accept you after dunking your bagels in BBQ sauce.


Entered at Tue Jun 20 11:42:09 CEST 2017 from (96.20.207.56)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I too, have always loved Everbody's Rocking. I also liked the videos for Wondering and Cry, Cry, Cry. Simply put it's fun music.


Entered at Tue Jun 20 10:30:19 CEST 2017 from (86.167.95.211)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Fred, I've never heard the album, but it's in my sights. I've been reading up about it, and it is not well liked by many. I'll listen to it on Prime and if I like it I'll buy it.

I'm complete with Neil upto about 1980.

I didn't like a lot of eighties music and was involved in other things, and what I listened to was probably British pub rock as Peter says. In local pubs, when I could get a night out, there was a good scene in this area with many local pub rock bands playing. Really good.

I bought Reactor (ok), Landing on Water(which I disliked) and Old Ways (which I think is really good). Many people seem not to like Old Ways, too. I love 'The Wayward Wind', which I think I had heard before.

Always had Freedom and Ragged Glory. Just now, I'm collecting the Performance series.

Will get back to you after I have played it. Thanks, Fred.


Entered at Tue Jun 20 10:30:54 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: I Knew The Bride …

OK, it's a few years earlier than Everybody's Rockin', but for revived rock, here's Nick Lowe on "I Knew The Bride When She Used To Rock & Roll."


Entered at Tue Jun 20 10:05:40 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Neil & The Shocking Pinks

There was that run of albums that annoyed the Geffen record label … Trans, Everybody's Rocking, Old Ways, Landing On Water. Trans is the only album I ever bought new on cassette. We were on holiday when it came out and I really wanted to hear it immediately and the car had a cassette player. I bought the middle two on LP, the fourth on CD. Trans is very odd, but I liked it at the time. I bought an LP copy eventually. Of he four, the one I've played most is Old Ways.

Everybody's Rocking' is the one that saw Young sued by David Geffen because it was "musically uncharacteristic of his work". It's also at 24 minutes 55 seconds just about the shortest 12" LP since Elvis's film era. Young claims that there were planned to be two more tracks, but that Geffen was so infuriated by what he heard that they cancelled the sessions and released it as it was. It came out just after the launch of CD, which highlighted how extremely short it was. I remember thinking at the time "What about the other side?" I was pissed off by the length, and because although it was unusual in America, British pub rock was at its height and people like Dave Edmunds and Nick Lowe (and many others) did rockabilly pastiche better.


Entered at Tue Jun 20 05:57:11 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: We, the few, the proud....

It's nice to know that I'm not alone in my appreciation of Everybody's Rockin'.


Entered at Tue Jun 20 03:48:52 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.108)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Whitlock performs & records with his wife, Coco Carmel, these days. they're baed in Austin. Were here in NYC recently, at BB Kings. I didn't go.


Entered at Tue Jun 20 02:38:51 CEST 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Peter V

No worries Peter. I was just 'taking the piss' But I was serious about your musical archives. You're one of the few that I look forward to reading every time I come on here.


Entered at Tue Jun 20 01:33:35 CEST 2017 from (114.75.201.170)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I found a really interesting interview with Bobby Whitlock. If you search on Youtube under: Facio / Create talks with Bobby Whitlock about working with Eric Clapton and George Harrison, you should be able to find it.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 23:18:55 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Neil Young's rockabilly

I like the track Wonderin' but after that I thought it was sub-par and generic at best. There's so many better rockabilly records available and groups that are still at it -


Entered at Mon Jun 19 23:15:54 CEST 2017 from (24.114.69.44)

Posted by:

Bill M

Fred: I too liked "Everybody's Rockin'". I will go onto to say that I spent some hours last week with the first Buffalo Springfield LP on CD. I wish the producers had had Neil singing his own songs. That said, the vocal pairing of Steve Stills and Richie Furay was a joy to behold - way better than either of them alone. I will also laud the work of the Dewey Martin / Bruce Palmer rhythm section and register long-after-the-fact disapproval of them not taking advantage of the fact that Dewey could probably out-sing any of them at that time, and had more studio experience.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 20:43:57 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Fred

Fred. You can't go wrong with "Betty Lou Gotta New Pair of Shoes & Kinda Fonda Wanda."


Entered at Mon Jun 19 14:53:37 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Neil Young

Dunc: what did you think of Neil Young's Everybody's Rocking? I think I may be the only person on this planet we all call home who likes it.

There's a good documentary about him entitled "Don't Be Denied",out there in the ether of the internet. I believe it was linked to, here, a few months ago. If you've never seen it, you should take a look.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 14:46:47 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: And furthermore...

Newspapers rating politicians on their behaviour in the aftermath of a tragedy is stupid. There are more serious issues to discuss, in the media, in the aftermath of a tragedy. No?


Entered at Mon Jun 19 14:39:06 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Politicians emoting in public

No. They're just crocodile tears (for the most part).


Entered at Mon Jun 19 14:25:59 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Let’s have an off the music musing. In these days of mayhem and disaster, I’m struck by how our attitudes have changed. Nowadays, every road accident site has its memorial … a pile of flowers (and more heart-rendingly, soft toys). Murders have far bigger piles. People buy flowers and take them to the scene of disasters and incidents involving complete strangers. Is this positive sympathy / empathy? Or is it ghoulish?

It comes up with the disastrous London fire, where for the last few days, newspapers have been rating our leaders on their reactions. This one was far too cold. That one hugged people. That one’s been there five times. The other only twice. That one brought forth hot tears of grief. Another didn’t.

I wonder if it’s appropriate. In Britain, we have the Royal family, who are brilliant at comforting the grieving by simply turning up at once and speaking to people. Should we be rating our leaders on this basis? Should it be obligatory for them to emote publicly? I don't know.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 11:11:59 CEST 2017 from (86.167.173.44)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks, Jeff. The fact that every take by the guitarist is so good would make it harder for me to select what is the best.

I enjoyed the post, Bill. Always enjoy the Canadian music posts. I'll check it out on YouTube and Amazon.

I'm into Canadian music, just now, Bill. Neil Young to be exact. I have played from the album, Neil Young to Rust Never Sleeps over and over the last couple of weeks. What a great body of work.

I'm playing Landing On Water, just now. Mmmm. You know what? I would like Neil to rerecord this album and make it a Neil Young album. Get rid of the drum machines, choirs and synthesisers and make it a quieter album because I think there are some fine songs on it.

The GB is on its last legs. Sadly, I think because I have used it in many ways. I have learned such a lot over the years from it. Played my collection of Poco last month, Jeff!

I've read everything on Jan's website and I've enjoyed the posts. I use the GB for everything, but especially finding new (to me) music. Many fine contributors have died, over the years, and I think unluckily some were too soon gone. I learned about Canadian Content, many years ago, from Paul Godfrey, who was a Canadian dj I think.

The site has benefitted from having many good writers over the years.

And a special shout for Peter the V. From a British point of view, he is generous with his time and will use his extensive archive and knowledge to help anybody on this side of the pond with 'projects' we are involved in. At this late age, I have found Dion...more than just The Wanderer. Thanks, Peter.

And Bob F, we need you back. In the words of The Equals 'Come Back. Baby Come Back.' Just watched the Canadian series 'Cardinal'. Great acting, but very violent. And finished the current series of 'Hinterland'.

That's Landing On Water Finished. Thank God! I'll get my ears back.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 10:05:58 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Jan.

Bonk … what's this about Facebook? First, I never use Messenger (if that's a route) but I get lots of Friend requests. I can't see how I'd fail to "friend" you.

I never friend stuff which comes in an alphabet I can't read … Arabic, Farsi, Cyrillics, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, on the grounds that I don't know what I'm linking to. I get a lot of these because of my ELT / ESL connections. I will friend people in languages I can guess my way through, like Western European languages. The other ones I don't friend (at least two a day) come from a girl's name, then when you check their page, you see a smiling girl in a bikini, and no posts at all.

So unless you have a bikini clad girl on your first page, or contact me in Cyrillic or Farsi, it should be OK. Try today … but not via Messenger, just click the button on the FB page.

Being a snooty bugger, I need all the friends I can get!


Entered at Mon Jun 19 09:43:06 CEST 2017 from (217.125.24.120)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: GB filter and trigger words

Peter et. al,

Now that we have (hopefully) gotten rid of the spammers and ad-posters by disabling posting of links and tightening the filters, I guess it is time for a more liberal policy again. Give us a day or three to edit down the banned-phrases list, ok? And sorry for that rude Johnny-boy with the finger, I'll have a serious talk with him about proper behaviour in the GB :-)


Entered at Mon Jun 19 04:20:28 CEST 2017 from (67.70.150.163)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Speaking of current affairs, what's up with this French election? Not so much the outcome, which has seemed clear all week, but the vote-counting and reporting. I wandered around the internet shortly after the polls closed in France at 8:00pm their time, and nobody - not in Canada, not in the UK, not even in France (in English anyway) had much to say beyond "the polls are about to open" (which was 12 hours out of date). As someone south of the border likes to say, Sad.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 03:59:32 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.108)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bonk, I don't think I have any FB friends that are on the GB. The GB is enough interaction, especially when it can be so contentious here. I do have several FB friends who left the GB long ago. Bob is not on FB at all. Today i don't accept many FB friend requests- I gotta be certain it's a legit request & not a scammer....If I'm not certain i know some one, or that it's not a duplicate of some one's real profile, i deny. But i do think Petr would be a sane FB friend. He's good to e mail with..Just don't let him moderate here :-) He was a lousy moderator...Norm should moderate. Everyone starts with a 6 pack & a bottle.

Though it ain't happening, you know i wish we could dial technology back to pre cell phones & internet.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 03:48:04 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.108)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I think Pete's asleep about now. We got rules about posting when your sleeping. No posts shall be made while sleeping, unless you're drunk & only think you're dreaming it. But you're really awake. Ask Norm how many times he was so drunk he thought he was dreaming that he was posting on the GB. It's a good defense. Norm, don't pull a Twitler & go pounding your chest now & fucking this all up. I'm getting you off the rap....I'm going to law school, put my mind to making some money...


Entered at Mon Jun 19 03:37:25 CEST 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Location: Cabbagetown/Salt Spring Island BC

Subject: Jeff

Thanks Jeff. Knew you would respond. As for Peter. He can still be the same snooty bugger he's been for years. I've tried 14 times to make him a friend on facebook. No reply. I guess I'm boring. But I would kill to one day visit England and spend a week checking out his archives.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 03:16:04 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.108)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

No laughing or crying, you salt crusted old bonkerized geezer.

Go do your laundry if it stopped reigning.


Entered at Mon Jun 19 02:59:32 CEST 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Location: Cabbagetown/Salt Spring Island BC

Subject: Jeff and Peter V

Two polar opposites talking about the end of the guestbook. Hilarious! And sad.


Entered at Sun Jun 18 22:26:49 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.108)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Well, politics & music go hand in hand. Unfortunately some people weren't able to remain civil. It's like that everywhere, not just here. Though it's very hard to be so offensive as to lose people as pleasant as Bob F.

On FB I became friends with some of the musicians i grew up listening to, some of whom I've met, some not. Richie Furay is a real right wing nut, & I tried to tolerate it. I had the feeling he was decent underneath despite his evangelical smugness . Because his voice is one of the most beautiful & the music he made in The Buffalo Springfield & Poco so essential in the first thirty years of my life, I overlooked alot... I tried to respect his right to his opinion, so I never blocked him, but I did finally UNFOLLOW him.... Then one day on a political post of mind, he jumped in to the thread, wrote something like this is rubbish, & blocked me. His manager opposes Twitler, that relationship may be doomed...

On the other hand, there's some big names I grew up listening to who are politically astute, very vocal, & we are of the same mind. Then there's the hundreds of musicians I know who are also vehemently opposed to Twitler & are active...... Very few stay silent about politics now, but some do.


Entered at Sun Jun 18 21:57:35 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Things Have Changed …

Quite often we kept the relationship going here by discussing current affairs. I've tried a couple of times, and I run into banned words, leading inevitably to that Johnny Cash finger … if you haven't seen it, try typing in a well know internet advertised pill. I guess names of politicians or parties trigger it. So if there's nothing musical, it's hard to continue to keep together as a group. I guess it's all on the way out. it's been a good 20 years. thanks for your company.


Entered at Sun Jun 18 04:59:39 CEST 2017 from (64.229.13.147)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

Dunc: This afternoon we had a great time catching local harmonica ace Jerome Godboo and his band (which includes Eric Schenkman, the Canadian co-founder of the otherwise American band the Spindoctors, whose first CD Levon Helm played on). Godboo's first-call drummer is BaRK's Gary Craig, but he must be off doing other things, maybe touring or recording with BaRK.

As you know, the BaRK guys, minus Fearing and Wilson, also gig as the Colin Linden Band, and have for years. In fact the first time I ever got to see Richard Bell play was with Linden at a free lunchtime concert down by the Henry Moore. Must've been a year or so on either side of 1990 when I worked there. At the memorial for Richard Bell just after he died, Colin talked about how he'd gone to Atlanta to recruit Richard back to Toronto to play with him in Bruce Cockburn's backing group. I don't know which of Cockburn's albums Richard's on, but Colin's on some, and Gary Craig's on more. Including the excellent on that I've been listening to for the last couple of days, "The Charity of Night". Gary Craig works so well with the stupendous bassist Rob Wasserman (RIP) in a small group setting that's mostly the two of them and Cockburn (who is a phenomenal guitarist - electric and acoustic). I suggest you check it out, hoping that it's not the one you already bought and didn't care for.

I've also been listening the second-last Ian and Sylvia LP, "Ian and Sylvia with David Wilcox", Wilcox being their lead guitarist right after Amos Garrett. Some fabulous stuff - a couple of stand-out Ian Tyson songs ("Summer Wages", "Some Kind of Fool", the minor hit "Creators Of Rain" and a brilliant cover of David Wiffen's brilliant "More Often Than Not". After two albums with the Tysons, Wilcox moved to Woodstock NY, where he joined Amos and other usual suspects in a group called Juke, played (with Amos) on a Maria Muldaur album, then returned to Toronto to become the local local guitar hero, making more money playing bars than any person before or since (or so I've heard). And his protégé, way back then in the mid '70s, was the 15-year-old Colin Linden.


Entered at Sat Jun 17 12:08:31 CEST 2017 from (110.38.82.109)

Posted by:

mike

Location: USA

Subject: great work indeed

i think this is the best we can say about any thing here!


Entered at Sat Jun 17 01:37:07 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.108)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Test.


Entered at Sat Jun 17 01:12:07 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.108)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Broadway Boss.

See the link. Springsteen is doing a 8 week run on Broadway. 5 days a week. I may have to go.


Entered at Fri Jun 16 17:17:21 CEST 2017 from (71.43.124.98)

Posted by:

Dan

Location: Orlando

Subject: The Shape I'm In - Covers

Thrilled to see a Bo Diddley 1971 cover of The Shape I'm In on You Tube, especially because of the Hey Bo Diddley B side to Who Do You Love. The Nicholas Rateliff cover of the Shape I'm In is also awesome.


Entered at Fri Jun 16 04:28:38 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.45)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Dunc, the worst one was better than just good. :-) Really. With this guy there's good, damn good, fucking great, fucking amazing, & all the other ones in between. I know him 16 years, it's rare he's only good.


Entered at Wed Jun 14 14:48:38 CEST 2017 from (86.161.15.22)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Agreed Lee, the bass and drummer add much to a performance. I always liked when my favourite Scottish performers were able to tour with a drummer and a bass, but the economics of touring sometimes meant that they had to tour on their own. I like concerts where there are only lead, rhythm, bass and drums. Concerts where there are good bass players. I liked the last time I saw Lou Reed and Lucinda Williams concerts, for example. I knew the bass playing was good, but as a non musician I don't know what is happening - such as when a bass player says he plays differently on a song every night or the bass player is good at leaving space.I don't understand what this means as a non musician. I just listen to the whole effect. I was lucky to hear ALL My Loving live on the last McCartney tour. Great. Thanks, Lee.

Thanks Jeff. my listening would tell me if a musician played badly, but if there were four good takes out of the sixteen, I couldn't listen well enough to tell what is the best take. Although, I do appreciate what producers are able to achieve. Thanks, Jeff.


Entered at Wed Jun 14 07:40:22 CEST 2017 from (24.114.84.198)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Jason Isbell

b.lee: Jasan Isbell's "Live from Alabama" was recommended by David P when released and it's certainly one of the top 10 most played by me since - 4 or 5 years already. It contains "Danko/Manuel" and all sorts of other great songs including "Outfit" , "Alabama Pines" and "TVA"........Highly recommended.


Entered at Wed Jun 14 02:10:14 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.45)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Complicated subject Lee. But yeah, you're right...... There's live & there's studio. If recording, it's not a hard defined band- if it's a solo project, or a songwriter's project, a smart producer or writer/producer picks the right players because he knows they're right for the project. There are payers who size things up immediately & perfectly....Players who show up, unfamiliar with new material, but on the second or third take deliver genius level performances in a band genius framework......It's called musicality & professionalism of the highest order & part of that is understanding what a song is... And that producer or writer also knows who's gonna fit with each other on a musical level. And now i've been talking tracking live. Overdubs, at that point, the suspense is even gone... BTW, to Pete's point, it's always good to have a drummer & bassist who know each other inside out. Last time in fir me Ibrought in a drummer & bassist who know each other well, one guitarist who never met any of the guys, and a guitarist & pianist i had on 2 sessions 15 years ago. They hadn't met before or since. Aside from one studio explosion ( in a studio where i thought i was safe), my session went magically, i have one track where you'd swear you were listening to The Stones in the Brown Sugar/ Jumpimg Jack Flash time frame. No exaggeration........ And that's possibly the weakest track...

Live, what you're talking about a band situation, in a band guys make a lot of compromises.... But truthfully, as you indicate, pros play the song & the situation........... And then there's those who don't get callbacks.


Entered at Tue Jun 13 20:07:48 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Jason Isbell

Jon, thanks for closing that loop. I knew I had heard the name, but could not place it. The Truckers are a band that, on paper, I should like, but they have never grabbed me. Maybe a second chance is in order.

More on Bass and Drums. Jeff would certainly agree that when you sign on for a 'project', you might have to put aside your personal preferences, and even style to fit the overall goal. It's your job. Had you told me 20 years ago I would be playing Unchained Melody, Spooky, Never My Love, and even To Sir With Love (! part of what I call our cross-dressing segment, not that we do), I would have thought you bonkers. But here we are!


Entered at Tue Jun 13 20:07:05 CEST 2017 from (108.174.162.3)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Nux

Hi Nux. Same e mail. In Estevan Saskatchewan just now. Home in a few days.


Entered at Tue Jun 13 17:43:26 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Jason Isbell

Thanks b. lee, much enjoying the Jason Isbell listen. Band connections: Jason and his group opened for Levon's band in Levon's final years... and was formerly part of the Drive-By Truckers, who wrote the song "Danko/Manuel".


Entered at Tue Jun 13 17:14:55 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.45)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, I'm sure Keith Robinson was held in check. He's generally very powerful. I used Keith on a session i never released, & he's inventive, and a power house. Plus, like I indicated, i saw plenty of him live. In conversation with me, Keith Doder, referred to him as the Mad Murderer, figuratively addressing the power of his drumming.


Entered at Tue Jun 13 15:36:54 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Jason Isbell

Still flogging the NPR First Listen site. (No, they are not paying me.) This is a great site to hear new music, but only for a short time before its official release, when you then need to go to Spotify or some other pay site. I'm a cheap bastard so it works for me. Currently (for a limited time) is available Jason Isbell's latest, "The Nashville Sound". This guy has sh*t to say. Personal stuff. Moving stuff. While I have heard his name, not familiar with his work. But this is good. Get it while it lasts.


Entered at Tue Jun 13 14:18:58 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

What we need Jeff, is Lindsey Buckingham / Christine McVie's rhythm section (John McVie, Mick Fleetwood)on the "Chuck" album, and conversely in spite of his great age, Chuck sounded younger and more vital than Lindsey Buckingham sounds on "Sleeping Around The Corner.'

Maybe the drums were told, like the bass, to be very unobtrusive on the Chuck album, but "Jamaica Moon" cries out for Sly & Robbie. Or Bakitho Kumalo & Steve Gadd in an ideal world. My immediate impression on "Chuck" was weak rhythm section … something he was used to after all those tours with pick up bands.


Entered at Tue Jun 13 09:50:19 CEST 2017 from (197.245.248.35)

Posted by:

Nux

Location: Durban South Africa

Subject: Rockin Chair

Rockin' Chair:I have a few things I want to send you,same E_Mail ok?

Hope everyone is ok here in Band world! Cheers.


Entered at Mon Jun 12 21:11:30 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.45)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Dunc, 6 or 7 times & patience....? This project of mine. In a week or two it'll be 4 years ago...One of my guitarists, both names but younger one just hit 50, the other is mid 40s, was overdubbing a solo. We tracked a 5 piece band live for 6 songs in 6 - 7 hours with breaks, but after we tracked the full band, the two guitarists were gonna add to two tracks. This track was getting two additional overdubs. Guitar player A must have been at his 14th take, & he had been getting there all along.The engineers thought he had it a few times, but i knew he had a virtuoso run in him, & he did too, so i didn't have to say a word, cause he wasn't pleased........ but we're at 13 or 14, & damn close & i knew he'd hit it on the next one. I felt the next one was it. I said: This next one's it.... - Simply, meaning i feel it coming. I needed to say that. Cause i pissed him off, & he said: Well, if you want it to sound like shit- Then, he nailed it...

I've had a vocalist who always comes ready, tip top.... show up after a emotional family trauma, with a rough voice from a gig two nights prior. One song to cut. We literally did 15 or 16 takes , not the whole song each time....The first 5 or 6 takes she was just working in...normally she's a one or two take vocalist... maybe a punch or two..... anyway this session, the engineer & i comped together what sounds like one brilliant take... One keeps comp graphs.....Still We probably spent two or more hours comping the vocal together- in protools. Tape woulda been much longer.


Entered at Mon Jun 12 20:50:54 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.45)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, I know Keith Robinson, Chuck's drummer. I can't speak for his performances with Chuck, as the only time i saw that band play was at the Pageant tribute to Johnnie, & honestly, i wasn't paying attention. But from what I've seen ( alot, with my friend RIP Keith Doder's Blue City Band)in general Keith Robinson is a damn good blues drummer. It's very possible he's relegated to a certain type of playing with Berry. Especially considering Marsala on bass.


Entered at Mon Jun 12 20:07:47 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Bass and Drums

Two recent mentions of bass and drums. Hmm. Might I have opinions on that?

Dunc, the addition of bass and drums, and the care with which they are applied, IMHO, can make or break a song or performance, although they certainly raise the volume in a live performance. It's a complex issue. The B&D, let's refer to them as they often are as the "Rhythm Section" are often overlooked. They can play too much, or play too little, but when they hit the "just right" an average song can turn into a memorable one.

Sometimes less is more. Listen to Sly’s Everyday People. The entire bass part is one note. But it is HOW that one note is played that makes all the difference.

The “rhythm” factor is the crux of the biscuit (as the late great Frank Zappa would say). A good rhythm section can convert the palest and least funky white boys into a Disco Inferno. Most guitar players don’t dance. There must be a reason, but generally it’s true. A good bass player DOES.

One key is whether the rhythm section LISTENS to each other, and to the band in toto. I’ve played with drummers who “play the song”, listening to their own mental radio, and not picking up any cues from me or anyone else. In rare occasions, I have played with drummers who DO listen and interact, which makes all the difference and is a lot more fun.

The other point is that guitarist or keyboardists or whomever can be “simply” strumming chords or playing fills, while the bass (and drums) are pretty much constantly moving, guiding the flow of the song from one chord to another, or verse to bridge, verse to chorus, etc. Case in point: The Beatles “All My Lovin’”. Not only is McCartney in constant motion, he is playing the verse bassline upside down, top to bottom. (It took me a while to figure this out!). He briefly plays the root notes, then leads the transition to the solo, which is a half step higher than the rest of the song. If you can, watch the Ed Sullivan performance to witness the outright glee that Mr. Harrison and the rest of the boys have in pulling THAT off. At the end of the solo, they go back to the original key. It’s the Rhythm Section that puts the ROCK into Rock ‘n’ Roll!

Peter (et. al) you might want to check out Beth Ditto's album on NPR First Listen if you can.



Entered at Mon Jun 12 14:49:46 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Chuck Berry's new one

Being critical … did anyone else get the “Chuck” album? Chuck is in VERY fine voice and form. Great material too. “Dutchman” seems to have a Robbie Robertson influence on it, down to “the wind must have blown him in …” (or for Robbie “blown me this way”)

It s a feast, far better than I would ever have expected … BUT shame about the rhythm section. The bass player has said in an interview that Chuck liked him because he stayed very simple and didn’t argue, but there’s a line between simple and turgid. John McVie does simple but with bounce and tone. This is just simple. It shows up most on ¾ Time (Enchiladas) and on Jamaica Moon where I longed for an inventive bassist and drummer who had the feel for these rhythms.

Definitely a great album, whatever.


Entered at Mon Jun 12 14:00:14 CEST 2017 from (216.197.184.110)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hair and There

Leaving Swift Current Saskatchewan,..,in the broad day light.😀😀😀


Entered at Mon Jun 12 12:24:08 CEST 2017 from (86.161.15.22)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

That's a succint way of putting it, Fred.

Ah the rock n' roll years. Away to the nursery now.

Although I have played Rust Never Sleeps twice in a row. And listened closely!


Entered at Mon Jun 12 11:37:08 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Dunc: some critics (music, film, etc.) seem to be too verbose for their own good.


Entered at Mon Jun 12 10:28:05 CEST 2017 from (86.161.15.22)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Fred, I think that the critic has to find his copy of so many words, but this may lead him to writing something just to meeet the number of words the editor requires.

The other thing I used to think about critics was I wished they would be quicker at condemning filler tracks on albums. Some, back in the day, got too close to artists and weren't honest.

Peter, I know you analyse songs carefully in a way I don't. I think that over the years, at times, you play certain albums a few times, and if they are not up to scratch you'll never play them again. May be wrong about that.

I started listening in the wall of sound way, then I focused on the lead guitar, then got what the rhythm guitar was doing. I found it more difficult to understand how important the bass and drums were. Now, I've got the time, I'm a very good listener. I like sitting listening to my albums.

Jeff, interesting. I've never been in a studio, but I understand the effort that many people put into a track to get the correct sound. I've seen the documentaries. I don't think I would have the patience to record the same part six or seven times in a row.

Mixing - not a clue what is going on.

Thanks, everybody.


Entered at Sun Jun 11 21:17:16 CEST 2017 from (84.209.128.68)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

JRR venting about Muddy Waters in TLW


Entered at Sun Jun 11 16:32:02 CEST 2017 from (24.114.58.36)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Heart

Fred: Heart's an interesting case. As I understand it, the Wilson sisters moved north with their partners (a guitarist and a roadie) when the guys felt the need to avoid the draft. So they were all legal residents and counted as Canadian under the CanCon rules - hence the saturation airplay of the first album. Who knows what the Wilsons would have done had Jimmy Carter not issued the amnesty, but he did and they and their band did the sensible business thing and moved to action central. Heart's Vancouver-based produce-guitarist Howard Leese was also from the US originally, and had moved north with his own group several years earlier, possibly for the same reasons. But a lot of border-hopping was happening anyway because of proximity and the cross-border nature of the typical tour routes.


Entered at Sun Jun 11 16:29:41 CEST 2017 from (67.84.76.147)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Dunc, listening is something been discussed here at various times by different folks. I talked about it more than once years ago too. It's not just musicians- in general people listen very differently. I always listened very intently, real deep, not just for parts, but for sound, & I always felt, or didn't feel music. From the time i was a kid.

But i can tell you, from the first time i ever took a band into a studio, i never listened the same way again.... And after my first mixing session, never listened to something for at least the first time the same way again. Then after the first mastering, the same- never listened the same way again.... I can & do listen casually, but the tendency to listen deep is there...

You'd be surprised how many great musicians, how many great working musicians, don't have great stereos or real stereos even....A lot only have boomboxes..


Entered at Sun Jun 11 14:12:23 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

On that, a few years ago a friend was asking what we saw in surround sound. As usual I put on The Eagles DVD where they come in one at a time on Hotel California. The woman concerned sings in a classical choir and listens to a lot of opera. She got quite angry about they "inability to sing" and how "they were all breathing wrongly." Odd as they sing sublimely, but not in "her way."

On singing, I did succumb and pick up Buckingham / McVie this morning. The first issue is that Lindsay sounds like Robbie. Now Robbie with his fascinating lyrics and narrative style, sounds great sounding like Robbie. However, Lindsay's forte is catchy hooks, and the 2017 singing sits somewhat uncomfortably with the "poppy" songs. It contrasts with his voice of a few decades ago.


Entered at Sun Jun 11 14:05:50 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Dunc, you’re right. I know musicians who can’t stay in a room if something’s out of tune on a record. Others will hear and distinguish every instrument. I distinguish most instruments when I listen, but speaking to some people who have never played anything, they hear it as Phil Spector would say, as a “wall of sound” and don’t think, “interesting bass “ or “nice piano.”


Entered at Sun Jun 11 11:42:20 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Dunc:

I'm convinced that most music critics hear music in a different way than most listeners do. And not necessarily in a better way, either. ; )


Entered at Sun Jun 11 10:47:07 CEST 2017 from (86.169.218.77)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Most of the Time

Thanks, Bassmanlee. I think it is a great song, but owes a lot to Daniel Lanois's production. I don't really know how he achieves this, but googled to find out. I really like Lanois's bass playing on the song, among many other components of the song. I like the tone, if that is the correct word, of the bass. Also great ending. Definitely Canadian in part.

There was a time many years ago when I raised a kite about a musician hearing a song in a different way from a non musician. I think there is something in this. But got no response many years ago.


Entered at Sun Jun 11 07:50:33 CEST 2017 from (67.84.76.147)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin: Jose Feliciano.


Entered at Sun Jun 11 07:31:29 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Kevin: Had the Pacific Northwest (the bit below BC) remained in British hands then become part of the Dominion once the great railroad was completed then Heart would have been a Canadian band. : )


Entered at Sun Jun 11 07:30:18 CEST 2017 from (67.84.76.147)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, you are incorrect on dual citizenship..


Entered at Sun Jun 11 07:08:13 CEST 2017 from (24.114.84.198)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Not that it matters in the least but the Band's principle songwriter and visionary Robbie Robertson has never become a U.S. citizen - and as far as I know neither did Rick, Richard or Garth........ Though my favourite"American" band of the early 70's just might have been The Plastic Ono band......c'mon.......what's next, Hemmingway being described as a French writer or Heart as as a Canadian band?

perfectly explained, John D............and JT..... you can retire from combing your hair or from e-mails or from religion but never from the GB........not allowed.

Thereas May: form what I have read, she refused to condemn or comment in any way on the Orange Clown's just sickenning comments relating to the Mayor of London - Good Riddance to her !


Entered at Sun Jun 11 07:07:53 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

I never knew that about the MAPL criteria with regards to Canadian Content on the airwaves. I just thought Canadian Content applied to the membership of any band (the minimal presence of just one Canadian makes the band a Canadian one), or if the artists were based in Canada.

That old adage has been proven true yet once again---you do learn something new everyday.

So a big thank you to John D & Bill M.

JT: don't worry about all those Blue Jays fans....once the Jays start not playing well again, people will be jumping off the bandwagon and normalcy will be restored. ; )


Entered at Sun Jun 11 06:28:06 CEST 2017 from (184.66.35.201)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Canada

Subject: ~100 miles from Victoria

Great post, Bill M.

Watching Blue Jays/Seattle. 45,000 fans in the stadium; at least 35,000 are Blue Jay fans. We would have gone, but will wait for a sanity to return first.


Entered at Sun Jun 11 06:09:23 CEST 2017 from (24.114.71.168)

Posted by:

Bill M

John D: Thanks for weighing in with some background on CanCon and the MAPL logo in Canadian radio. When the rules first came out in 1970, only one of the four criteria needed to be met, so anything by the Band (4/5 Cdn) was counted as Canadian no matter who wrote the song; ditto Buffalo Springfield (3/5 Cdn). The two-of-four-criteria rule kicked in a year or two later. So the Band singing "I Shall Be Released" would get only an A, so wouldn't count. But the Band singing "This Wheel's On Fire" would get an M as well as an A so would count. And then the regulator allowed itself to be convinced to count BS&T as Canadian because the one Canadian, David Clayton Thomas, was the lead singer. And Mamas and Papas because Denny Doherty sang the hits. I believe they loosened up further to count groups with a Canadian who wasn't the lead singer (Lovin' Spoonful, Rascals, War, Mountain, Three Dog Night, Ultravox, Cutting Crew, etc.)


Entered at Sun Jun 11 05:54:07 CEST 2017 from (184.66.35.201)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Canada

Subject: Eh

Eh, Eh , Eh..

. I'm out of retirement for this post.

GARTH HUDSON - born Windsor, Ont (Detroit)

RICK DANKO - born Blayney (near Simcoe, Ont. (on way to Windsor) (Detroit)

RICHARD MANUEL - born Stratford, Ont. (on way to Windsor (Detroit)

ROBBIE ROBERTSON -born Toronto, Ont. (on way to Buffalo)

So yes, they are all 'American' (he said, tongue firmly in cheek).

I recall vividly the push to have Canadian content on radio (as described by my friend.) That was 'a big deal' here and I think it mattered ultimately to our homegrown talent

It was a tough go for most Canadian talent before that. There was real growth in Canada after those rules came in

More importantly, Levon and the Hawks cut their teeth in Toronto and environs and they will always be Canadian. But, without question, they created the foundation of a music form which defined Americana with 'Canadiana' overtones.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 19:56:11 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.163)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

John :-) . I was just looking to see if Norm was loaded & looking in this morning. The Band rightfully is a great source of pride for Canadians. Whenever I meet a Canadian I bring The Band up.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 19:48:21 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

To me, Rick, Robbie and Garth sound distinctly Canadian in speech. I don't know about Richard as I've heard very little except TLW.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 19:29:22 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.163)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

John...as a band, one could make the case they were a NY band. But really, I'm just back to American. Meaning in a way The U.S. & part of Canada.

I was speaking with a engineer the other day, & asked him where he was originally from. He said Canada, just over the Canadian side near Niagara Falls. I responded: " Then you're a New Yorker." He said "Thank you. I've been here 20 years.... "


Entered at Sat Jun 10 17:02:22 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I think of The Band as mainly Canadian … earlier I chose Soap Box Preacher, where Robbie chose to sing with Neil Young because Rick Danko pulled out. At the time he said he wanted a voice with that "high Canadian sound" like Rick or Richard.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 17:00:39 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: More Mo / Mo' Mo

I started looking for Mo Pitney on amazon uk, and he still is "MP3 only" on releases. No CDs. But the good news is I found out he is touring the UK in late August / early September. The bad news is that the nearest to me is Brighton (105 miles) and looks like a standing only box over a pub.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 16:03:04 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jeff A Canadian Eh?

Let me give you an answer from a radio perspective Jeff. Back in 1970 the CRTC (our version of the FCC) decreed that Canadian radio had to play 30% Canadian content. That is a story in its self. Now what constitutes The Band as Canadian content. The equation comes from the initials MAPL. Like maple leaf? Anyway M stands for music. A stands for artist. P stands for where it was produced and L stands for lyrics.

Therefore anything written by Robbie (that is music and lyrics) qualifies as Canadian Content. If The Band recorded an American song in Canada, that would be Canadian content. A for artist and P for produced in Canada.

Now it gets tricky. This Wheel's on Fire would not be Canadian content because only one of the writers was Canadian. Rick Danko.

Anyway an amusing way of looking at whether The Band was or is a Canadian commodity. In Radio it is. Canadians are fiercely proud of those born here even though they made their success in the USA. Some famous Canadians who live in the U.S. have dual citizenship. I don't blame any famous Canadian who has become an American citizen. After all it happened for them in the states. The Band is one of them. However I have interviewed them countless times and the four Canadians always remained proud of their Canadian identity and even Levon looked upon Canada as his adopted country.

An amusing way of looking at your question Jeff.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 10:55:12 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Four-fifths

I've never considered The Band as a band representing Canada. Lyrically and thematically I find them more American than Canadian (except for Acadian Driftwood naturally). But I don't think of them exclusively as an American band either, despite the previously mentioned fact nor due to Levon's presence and influence, and their time spent in the States.

There's a lot of going back and forth, I find, with labelling them a Canadian or an American band.

Perhaps that is a testament to their true strength....not belonging to either or, but to all. Borderlessness.

Conversely I think of Neil Young, despite his long tenure below the 49th parallel, to be a Canadian recording artist.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 10:53:45 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Mo Pitney

Mo Pitney "Country" link.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 08:55:23 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Mo Pitney

We saw Mo Pitney live at the Grand Old' Oprey in Nashville and I have been waiting for him to release an album ever since. Incredible writer and singer.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 08:52:14 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Can The Band be counted as Canadian? They were, possibly still are, a legal U.S of A enterprise. Never were a Canadian business. Mercedes & Toyota may be German & Japanese companies that do business in the U.S., even build product here, but, they were business entities of their homelands prior.. The Band members came to the U.S., & planted, started anew...... And they are considered the inventors of Americana. And they all stayed in the U.S.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 08:21:21 CEST 2017 from (24.114.84.198)

Posted by:

Kevin J

"Take care of all your memories/for you can't relive them" - Bob Dylan

but sometimes you can......and Mike Nomsd - I am so happy you are....and for those you don't know Grand Bend holds a very special place in The Hawks/The Band lore and if you visit even now you will at least be able to see a reference to Joni Mitchell''s brilliant lyric about paving paradise and putting up a parking lot........and I've parked there and thought about Mike and others having seen rock n roll beauty even if it came with the broken glass fist-a-cuffs mayhem of battle-royals amongst the ladies....

Thank you, Dunc........ Just back from an F1 party and too blasted to make a Canadian list but shall do so.....just walked by the apartment building where Jesse Winchester's band-mate and friend Jimmy Oliver lived and was thinking of him.... Hope he is ok..... - really gentle and beautiful guy Jimmy was/is ( hope ) .. and, Peter, Jesse didn't just record a few albums in Canada - he lived, bled and was reborn in Montreal. A beautiful man....... and a massive NOD to Robbie Robertson and Albert Grossman for promoting the talent that was........and, Bill M.....if you ever split, it really is Mongolia time..and If Peter ever leaves, it's a Facebook future where the best you could ever hope for is "Hey Robbie, love your guitar"


Entered at Sat Jun 10 03:37:21 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, are you guys celebrating or is it too soon? I know you got chaos, but is it good chaos? Dan Rather said that even though you guys did elect more left of center politicians, which of course is good, the present resulting instability is good for Russia. I'm asking, cause i don't know. Maybe you have thoughts.


Entered at Sat Jun 10 03:19:30 CEST 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Misery and Gin

Was going to link to one of my favourite country singers these days, Mo Pitney but I see clickable links have been disabled. Figures. Anyway Mo and his sister, Holly, are worth checking out on Youtube.

Rough spring on the coast. Pack ice tight to shore. No navigation. Frost last night.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 23:53:55 CEST 2017 from (174.88.218.36)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Thanks, Dunc. Always good to hear from you.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 22:47:50 CEST 2017 from (86.166.135.136)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks, guys.

I'll check out your nominations guys. Much of the music I don't know. Started with 'Fuck I Hate The Cold' today, Fred. Really enjoyed it.

K.D. Laing is really great music. I had a younger friend I used to travel to the football with on Saturdays all over Scotland and he played K.D. Laing all the time. Great music and happy times. Need to get some of her music. Thanks, Peter.

Jesse Winchester did become a Canadian citizen, but moved to America before his death. I didn't know of him until this GB, but bought one of his later albums recently and really enjoy it. It's a 'New Grass' album, which ties in with my Maura O'Connell albums. That sounds knowledgeable, but I don't know what the fuck I am talking about. Only found out about this through reading our old friend, Dlew's post on Toppermost. Just really like Maura working with Jerry Douglas and Bela Fleck.

I also liked the Ron Sexsmith documentary and concert we saw on BBC 4. Meant to follow this up, but did nothing about it.

Always enjoy your posts, Mike Nomad and glad you have found happiness.

Just too much music.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 21:35:14 CEST 2017 from (75.98.19.133)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc - Ya done good! As have PV and KJ. My eight with or without geographic references would include "Half-Closed Eyes" by Kensington Market, "You Make Me High" by Luke and the Apostles, "Stomp" by Sadie Buck and Robbie Robertson, "Rockin' Chair" by the Band, "Lovers In A Dangerous Time" by Barenaked Ladies, "Mad Birds of Prey" by Influence, "When A Tree Falls" by Bruce Cockburn, "At the Hundredth Meridian" by the Tragically Hip". This moment anyway. /n Re Jesse Winchester, I'm pretty sure he was a Canadian citizen; don't know if he had to or chose to or did give up his American.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 19:11:07 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: k.d. lang

How do you get on with the k.d. lang version of A Case of You? I prefer it to the original even. (LINK to k.d.)

Thanks for mention of the Buckingham / McVie - I would have just picked it up tomorrow, but now I'll check first.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 17:59:06 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: South of the border. South of the Mason-Dixon, technically

Subject: Canadian songs and new stuff

Dunc, nice list. Hard to pick THE ONE song by such as the Band. Good choice, though, who else could have captured that nostalgia and regret so well? Joni, I would have picked Case of You or River. Leonard, I would pick Closing Time. Four Strong Winds, and Crazy River are winners for sure. Most of the Time is an unheralded gem by the Bard. There multiple versions of this, one appearing on Tell Tale Signs, much simpler with just guitar and harmonica, but loses the Daniel L connection. Both have their points. The rest I will have to look up, even with a good deal of BARK in the collection.

I’ve been hyping the NPR First Listen site (to the sound of crickets in the night), but the lineup at the moment is pretty strong, including Steve Earle, Fleet Foxes, and the last Chuck Berry. Maybe y’all in different zones can’t get to it?

Kind of disappointed in the Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie collaboration, most of which has all of the drawbacks (IMO) of later Fleetwood Mac…overproduction, sonic manipulation, artificial feel…and, in the process, often making Christine sound a bit like Stevie. A few, simpler and more compelling tunes turn up near the end. Game of Pretend and Carnival Begin, the last song on the disk. The latter finally brings back Ms. McVie as we remember her. Play it backwards?


Entered at Fri Jun 9 17:56:45 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I've been returning to Jesse Winchester too, and the first albums were recorded in Canada. But "I'll build a bridge and walk there to get away from all this snow…" Not too Canadian that one.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 17:45:02 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

I've been listening a lot to Jesse Winchester's music lately... he is missed and fondly remembered. And an honorary Canadian!


Entered at Fri Jun 9 16:27:13 CEST 2017 from (218.94.151.201)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: the real me

Bill M- no harm done! Although for a minute I had wondered if my evil twin had appeared on the scene again. Yes there is an aptly-named Finland in NW Ontario with a healthy population of people originally from that country although I don't know if Neil Young ever ventured there during his stay in the area.

I suppose one could add the Hip's Bobcaygeon or 50 Mission Cap or even Last American Exit for Canadian Content. Also Bruce Cockburn's Coldest Night of the Year for shout-outs to Yonge St., the Scarborough horizon, etc.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 15:29:04 CEST 2017 from (174.88.218.36)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Glory days

Kevin, yes, in love again, to my first summer sweetheart back in . . . well, that's of no importance. But me turn my back on the GB and the Hawks? Pas jamais, mon ami. Some things are indeed sacred. But I was back to the Bend again last Sunday with my rediscovered love in tow, and I basked in those beachside memories of so many years ago . . . yes, of the Hawks, too. A nice feeling amid the creaking of my arthritic hips and knees. So keep on cranking out your thoughts in the GB, my friend, cuz I love read them. And all the others, too. It's a unique pleasure of mine even if I remain somewhat passive in my own thoughts about our guys. But I can still remember, thank goodness. Time hasn't robbed me of that.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 15:27:53 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I hope k.d.lang reads this and decides she needs to do a Volume II of 49th Parallel.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 14:20:57 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Peter: Not PC....but PQ. As in Province du Quebec. Or Parti Quebecois if you are so politically inclined. ; )


Entered at Fri Jun 9 14:11:32 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Oh! Canada, only eight, eh?

Canadian Railroad Trilogy - Gordon Lightfoot

(As a Great Lakes boy...you'd think I'd pick the song about the Edmund Fitzgerald, but no.)

Born In Ontario - Neil Young

Fuck, I Hate The Cold - Cowboy Junkies

The Last Saskatchewan Pirate - Captain Tractor

Metropolitan Life - BB Gabor

Runnin' Back to Saskatoon - The Guess Who

Shoe Box - Barenaked Ladies

Fireworks - The Tragically Hip


Entered at Fri Jun 9 13:52:26 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 8 More

Dunc, a brilliant way to get back into the music, and don’t we all need it. I’ll take your eight Canadians … but I’ll do my own eight too …. and I’ve managed one in French to be PC. I’ve also given bonus points for Canadian references.

Helpless – Neil Young & The Band, TLW

Acadian Driftwood – The Band

Soap Box Preacher- Robbie Robertson (with Neil Young)

Dreamland – Joni Mitchell (It’s a long long way from Canada …)

A Case of You – k.d. lang (written by Joni … Oh, Canada!)

Alexandra Leaving – Leonard Cohen

Jolie Louise - Daniel Lanois

Powderfinger- The Cowboy Junkies (improved version)

Or an album? Obviously "49th Parallel" by k.d. lang does the whole job though she has no Robbie / Band songs on there.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 13:21:17 CEST 2017 from (24.114.100.79)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: woops

That last one was me. Sorry Greg!


Entered at Fri Jun 9 12:40:13 CEST 2017 from (24.114.100.79)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: there is a town in north Ontario ...

GregD: Thanks for the suggestion. I had no idea.

That reminds me to say that I went to a closing-night celebration for the Hard Rock Cafe on Yonge Street (previously Friars Tavern, where Dylan first practiced with the Hawks) and got to talking to a young woman from Thunder Bay who is a big Neil Young fan and knew all about his days in TBay in the '60s. A few days later I was talking to a new young EA at work who is a big fan of the Band and TLW. So there's hope.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 12:32:15 CEST 2017 from (86.167.98.159)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Canadian Desert Island Discs

Ok, Kevin a post. And for all of my fellow Canadians, here's my Canadian desert island discs. You know the format of this British institution - only allowed 8 discs. These songs are brilliant. Oh and eight different artists. But I could only get it down to nine.

The Band 'Rockin' Chair'. What great song do you pick? Love the Band.

Robbie Robertson 'Somewhere Down The Crazy River'. When I needed to watch a film, I would play this song and visualise the film it portrays. Great song. Perhaps more popular in Europe. Love this song.

Joni Mitchell 'Big Yellow Taxi'. Love this song, too. I bought this as a single, probably one of the last singles I bought. The next year I was into LPs. Great pop song, but a protest song too. What could say it more clearly than 'You don't know what you've got. Till it's gone.' Still play the album often.

Leonard Cohen 'Hey That's No Way To Say Goodbye' - version from the Live in London album. One of the greatest shows I have ever seen when I saw it in Glasgow. Love this song and this version of the song. Goosepimples song. You hear every word and the musicianship is brilliant.

Ian and Sylvia 'Four Strong Winds'. Love this song. Heard it in the folk clubs round about 1970 for the first time, then Neil Young's great version. This GB took me into Ian and Sylvia.

Neil Young 'Powderfinger'. I'm playing all the classic Neil music just now. Absolutely outstanding music. Another retirement project. Love this song and many other Neil songs.

Blackie and the Rodeo Kings 'Down By The Henry Moore' The GB got me into this band. Thanks Bill M and the late Steve. Love this song and their entire work. Strangely it was written by a guy who was born up the road from where I live now.

Gordon Lightfoot 'Early Morning Rain'. Again had real difficulty choosing a song, but this song seems to have been with me all my life. Lucky to have seen Gordon last year. Another great show. Band grooved along brilliantly. Love this song.

Bob Dylan 'Most of the Time'. This brilliant song owes much to Daniel Lanois, and I needed something by this great Canadian musician on the desert island. Give this song a listen again, if you haven't done lately. Track was cut to a drum machine, but Lanois also had a drummer playing a hip hop beat. Lanois played bass and overdubbed four Les Paul parts to create the string quartet effect. (I read up about this song a couple of years ago). And of course words and tune by a Nobel prize winner. Love this song.

OK, my fellow Canadians and others, how did I do? Comments please.


Entered at Fri Jun 9 07:53:48 CEST 2017 from (24.114.54.83)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Doris Marie.....

.....almost like the ashes of The Lost Generation....but nice to see new people discussing The Band....I believe "Testimony" to be the best biography ever written by a rock n roller. Just like TLW - nothing even comes close........Please stick around.....LINK''s are gone, BEG's gone, Todd's gone, Pat B is gone, Dunc is gone, JT is gone , Al Edge is gone, Bob F is gone ( hurry on back Bob - "Bukow and Konig" - a German detective show is brilliant ), and my all-time favourite Mike Nomad has fallen in love and forgotten all about The Hawks and The Band.....ahhhhhh......fuck it - I've still got Jim Comey and my pal Norm is in fine form and enjoying a fine retirement.....as good as this life can get which is good enough - Cheers......and thanks to Fred and Jeff - gallant knights both - Canadian Grand Prix weekend in Montreal - Happy Days !


Entered at Thu Jun 8 21:02:22 CEST 2017 from (198.103.109.141)

Posted by:

DorisMarie LaTour

Location: Toronto

Subject: Testimony

I loved the book Testimony and having grown up in the Beaches during the 60's, many places of interest were familiar.


Entered at Thu Jun 8 17:10:27 CEST 2017 from (218.94.151.201)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: Flying Finns

Bill M/Fred- while you're at it, once you hit Thunder Bay, you might as well keep going west until you actually hit Finland (the Ontario town that is). I can't remember if the restaurants are any good but at least you can say you're there.


Entered at Thu Jun 8 15:57:29 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Election day here … just talking to people, in this area at least, I have never seen such little interest in an election before. No discussion. No enthusiasm.


Entered at Thu Jun 8 05:18:13 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Bill M: good idea.


Entered at Thu Jun 8 04:53:55 CEST 2017 from (24.114.85.168)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: dining in Port Art

Fred: Better yet - you, me and NwC. How you say table for three?


Entered at Thu Jun 8 04:38:37 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Jeff: Nope. I've been on top of things.....put all the laundry in a pile and lit it on fire. ; )


Entered at Thu Jun 8 04:19:59 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.172)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Fred, those dirty clothes must be piling up.


Entered at Thu Jun 8 01:17:02 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Bill M: yes. The universe wants you to make a trip to the Port Arthur section of Thunder Bay to have lunch at the Hoito (fine Finnish dining at reasonable prices) : )


Entered at Wed Jun 7 22:23:26 CEST 2017 from (207.236.37.163)

Posted by:

Bill M

NwC: There was a letter to the editor in yesterday's paper from a guy named Ilkka. The middle of his surname was also "kk", which seems to be a Finnish quirk - though he claimed to be from Ontario. And then a friend sent me a deck promoting a company from Aalto named Utopia. Is the universe trying to send me a message?


Entered at Wed Jun 7 12:17:35 CEST 2017 from (158.39.165.138)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

This lovely photo popped up on FB a little while ago. Can't remember having seen it before (not that *that* means much -- our memory nowadays is no longer what it never used to be :-)


Entered at Wed Jun 7 04:22:19 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.67)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Another linked article about the Lion Of London Bridge

I made a post with two copy & paste links earlier, it hasn't shown up yet


Entered at Wed Jun 7 03:51:06 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.67)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: A Footer & a Brooklynite

A Footer & a Brooklynite stood up in the London terror attacks. I don't doubt others did as well.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-bridge-terror-attack-fk-fuck-you-im-millwall-hero-roy-larner-football-fan-lion-of-london-a7775246.html

http://abc7ny.com/2065610/


Entered at Tue Jun 6 18:08:37 CEST 2017 from (65.92.195.202)

Posted by:

Bill M

Rockin Chair: You found a woman who appreciates Monty Python humour? Good for you!!


Entered at Tue Jun 6 16:28:46 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Wewease Wodewick!!

Susan and I are leaving tomorrow to drive out to Estevan, Saskatchewan to visit Susan's son and his family. I want to leave you with this one little thought.

Just now as we had breakfast, Susan was telling me the difficult time the Whitehouse staff was having trying to keep up with "Tweets" and all the rest of the mayhem there.

I said, remember the scene in the Life of Brian when Ceaser was trying to talk to all those Jewish people. They were all yelling at him "Wewease Woderwick and rolling on the ground laughing. I said it's kind of like that. I thought she was going to pee herself.

I don't know if any of you have seen this. Our old friend Lars posted it on Face Book. A picture of the old politicians with long white wigs deliberating. One guy is saying, "Maybe we should put something in the constitution in case the people elect a fucking moron."


Entered at Tue Jun 6 09:42:38 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.67)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norm, the lunatic been mentally ill since day one on the planet. He's not the first mental patient to get to play leader. He'll be out unless he blows us all up first. but I bet they have cameras up his ass just in case....


Entered at Tue Jun 6 01:27:36 CEST 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Shoulder to shoulder guys.


Entered at Tue Jun 6 00:20:52 CEST 2017 from (114.75.199.163)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Dylan's newly released Nobel Prize lecture is brilliant and well worth checking out.


Entered at Tue Jun 6 00:07:34 CEST 2017 from (85.164.127.169)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Levon, King Biscuit Blues Fest, Helena, AR, 1989


Entered at Mon Jun 5 19:04:00 CEST 2017 from (65.92.195.202)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: celebration of Levon's music, Toronto, this Friday

CELEBRATION OF LEVON HELM V - Hugh's Room Live Friday, June 9th 8:30pm

Levon Helm came to Toronto with Ronnie Hawkins and helped bring Rock n Roll and R&B to Southern ON. The Hawks were the best band and the biggest draw for years on the bar circuit.

Levon went on to play with the BAND and had a solo career after their break-up as both an actor, and bandleader with the RCO All Stars (his first studio album after The BAND.)

We have been honoured to dedicate a night at Hugh's Room live for the past five years to honour one of Toronto's favourite adopted sons.

We have Jerome Levon Avis (Levon's godson) on drums, Jesse O'Brien, (Colin James Band) Chuck Jackson (Downchild Blues band) and musical director Lance Anderson with a nine piece band and 4 horns.

Don't miss this wonderful night of remembrance as we play music from all eras of Levon's career. Jerome's Dad Bill knew Levon for 52 years, longer than most marriages, he says. He was a roadie for the Hawks and became Road manager for Bob Dylan and the BAND.

It will be a wonderful night. get your tickets today.

dinner reservations: 416 533-5483


Entered at Mon Jun 5 16:00:37 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Half Cocked

I understand your thinking Peter, but that's not it at all. Remember the old phrase, "With hold evaluation until comprehension is complete". That is something Trump does not have the capacity to do. He picks out certain words. Then without understanding the meaning fully he starts squacking like a parrot, (they call it tweeting which is stupid). He read the words "don't be alarmed", without completing the sentence, which was, "don't be alarmed if you see much more of a police presence on your streets." That was meant to protect people more. That is beyond that fool's understanding.

Have you all been watching what he does whenever he screws up like that? He goes and plays golf. They are keeping a records of how many times he has played golf since he took office, (which he was criticizing Obama for). He will apparently spend more money on his recreation in his first year than Obama did in 8 years. Now he is supposed to have asked congress for one billion dollars for security for him and his family. 23 million for Trump Towers alone.


Entered at Mon Jun 5 12:14:20 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I suspect Trump sees the Mayor's name, and jumps immediately to the wrong conclusions.


Entered at Mon Jun 5 10:48:45 CEST 2017 from (219.89.11.235)

Posted by:

Rod

Trumps comments about the mayor of London should have been enough to get him shown the door. Another aweful incident but good to see the British police and public responding so well.


Entered at Sun Jun 4 20:53:36 CEST 2017 from (67.84.76.243)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

BTW, though i never did & don't consider Twitler my President, that's just a personal statement or some such... The fact is, he's the President of the U.S. right now.


Entered at Sun Jun 4 19:51:24 CEST 2017 from (67.84.76.243)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete,it's underwhelming to say this is more awful & increasingly frequent horror. The only thing i can add to what you wrote is that Israel is clearly in the intelligence fight against this, & though the U.S. intelligence community 's contribution in the past was vast, i realize because of our President, it's being compromised.............But, our intelligence community is one of the best, & dedicated to fighting territrory & the safety of the civilized world & peoples.

Twitler & his associates will be removed, either jailed or discredited. all of em.. Kushner,Flynn, Ivanka, Pence, Manafort, Stone, Sessions, Ryan, McConnell, hopefully Bannon & Priebus. It will be possible to trust intelligence with the next administration.

. So much was known prior to the election, & even then, when it would be mentioned, & then disappear, I suspected that 1)the political uproar would be deafening & too tumukltuous justtrying to quickly discredit Twitler prior ..2) the only way to root out everyone would be to l et it run it's course. The day of the election i had a bad feeling. I bet many in the know had it prior & worse....I suspect they knew thwe possibility of a Twitler win existed, & that if he lost or won, the investigations would continue, & the onlly way to gain the conclusive evidence to nailing everyone of em, would be exhausting, infuriating, obstructed, etc etc.

The fact that terrorists are radicalized by the internet today is maddening- Your neighbor is a potential terrorist. It's how it is where i live.... There's a huge Muslim community in NY, & in my neighborood, we've got thousands of Arabic muslims, the women were the fulll blck getups, you just see their eyes. Then there's thousands of other knds of Muslims in the neighborhood. I interact with em allday long. So many are just normal people. The women who wear regular clothes, speak English really e well, act ike any other person, & really enjoy being in the U.S. are great....

We're in an insane time. This is a seemingly impossible to cure problem... The good people have to be embraced, we need their support. And the job of exposing the threats is endless.


Entered at Sun Jun 4 19:28:18 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Caroline or Change

As it's a musical, I've linked my review of "Caroline or Change" - allegedly a soul / gospel / Tamla Motown musical too.


Entered at Sun Jun 4 18:33:07 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I agree, Norm. Mind you the 8 million dollars from joining the exclusive club came in useful, and the witch doctor has me beating away women from the door. I'm still waiting for the bank transfer from the Nigerian princess though.


Entered at Sun Jun 4 17:32:27 CEST 2017 from (84.209.133.141)

Posted by:

jh

Location: Oslo, Norway
Web: My link

Subject: Look Ma...

...I am posting a link!


Entered at Sun Jun 4 16:27:00 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Unwanted cyber pollution

A great improvement without having to sift thru the cyber pollution. I can't e mail from the above source, it tells me something about "server not properly installed".


Entered at Sun Jun 4 14:03:09 CEST 2017 from (84.209.133.141)

Posted by:

jh

Hm. Someone does not like our new politics here regarding posting of links. The server access log file from the last 24 hours show thousands of automated (failed) attempts to post ads in the guestbook this night and early morning, mostly from a server supposedly located in the Ukraine. This is meaningless...

Btw, if you *do* want to continue to contribute to the community by posting links to YouTube videos and articles and other goodies here in the GB, please drop us an e-mail and we'll lead you through the secret entrance.


Entered at Sun Jun 4 10:39:55 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

What can you say? This latest outrage hits us hard. This is the area of London where we always stay. Either in a hotel within the cordoned off area, or an apartment which often has us walking across the road at the end of London Bridge just after ten. We've eaten at three of the places mentioned in the news. The BBC report shows the Menier theatre in the background. People with hands on their heads were walking past our favourite breakfast place.

What does annoy me is that the BBC are so mealy mouthed. The word is not "died" nor "killed". it is "murdered." The people are not "attackers" they're "terrorists" or "murderers." In an hour of BBC news the only person to mention the "M-word" or "I-word" was an eyewitness who also reported what they were shouting. So we're left to wonder whether these "attackers" might be Christians, Jews, disaffected Buddhists, Taoists, Druids, Sikhs or Hindus. Hmm. You know, I reckon they weren't from any of those groups.

It's why BREXIT is such a bad idea. Now is the time to stand shoulder to shoulder with France, Germany, Belgium, Spain … all the places that have suffered the same. We need to share intelligence, work together. Here ends the political message. No, it doesn't, sorry, I'm in the mood this morning … we have both major parties accepting Brexit. Even the loony Farage says that on a 1.5% margin, if it had been the other way, he would have asked for a second referendum. As the Times pointed out this week, with the over 60s returning a pro-Brexit majority, and the under-45s a strong "Remain" vote, then since the referendum, more of the older Brexit group will have either shuffled off this mortal coil or be too demented to vote, while many people will have gone from 17 to 18 and be able to vote.


Entered at Sun Jun 4 00:24:58 CEST 2017 from (34.125.114.128)

Posted by:

LHS

Web: My link

All-star "The Weight"


Entered at Sat Jun 3 20:33:02 CEST 2017 from (24.114.75.9)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Is Your Love in Vain

With a nod to Expecting Rain, do take the time to visit YouTube and watch/listen to the great Ian Hunter from 1981 do Bob Dylan's "Is Your Love in Vain"


Entered at Sat Jun 3 18:16:25 CEST 2017 from (84.209.133.141)

Posted by:

jh

Loser. Johnny says hi.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 14:07:55 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I guess a non clickable link is just copy and paste and you know what you're linking to. I worry though about some of our regulars who will now need another source for their "male vitality" pills.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 13:16:53 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Gotcha!

Phew! For a while I thought something was wrong with my computer.

Can't fault you for that.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 13:13:08 CEST 2017 from (84.209.133.141)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: Link

The "post a clickable link"-option in the GB has been removed to (hopefully) stop some of the idiots and the (meaningless) spammers that are pestering us with semi-automated posting of ads. If you still want to be able to post a clickable link here, send us an e-mail and we'll (maybe) tell you how.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 13:06:26 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: JH's Test....for which I would have studied had I known...

All well and nice (your link), but on the guestbook sign in page this is what I find:

Name

Subject

I'm from

No Link

However earlier today it was there.

I shall refresh my browser to see what happens.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 12:31:12 CEST 2017 from (84.209.133.141)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Testing

1...2...3


Entered at Sat Jun 3 12:07:30 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

I'd pull out the nail, but I don't have the energy to copy and paste the links you posted. I've been spoiled by the link option. Or I'm just plain lazy. Either way....


Entered at Sat Jun 3 12:01:05 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.30)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Fred. You certainly do. We corrected your stance last week. Pull that nail out of your foot already.

https://www.jbprince.com/garde-manger/japanese-fish-bone-plier.asp?gclid=CM3KnoC1odQCFYiLswodadwKUg

http://www.fujiya-kk.com/en/ The Pliers & Nippers Co.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 06:02:46 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Jeff: I stand corrected....the link option does seem to have disappeared.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 06:00:30 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Sgt. Pepper at 50

NPR's Fresh Air had a good interview with George Martin's son about the Sgt. Pepper's reissue. And today there were two interviews (from the show's archives) with Paul & Ringo.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 05:52:47 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Jeff: could be you've had too much Canadian Club. ; )


Entered at Sat Jun 3 03:51:41 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.30)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Has the link option been removed? It's not showing up for me.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 03:49:46 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.30)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: http://www.canadianclub.com/us/agegate.html

Yup, i saw McDonald before i shut it off at 1:51 in..... Man, you just ain't no fun Norm. Back when i was 16, we all used to take the same amount of windowpane or purple haze before we shared experiences.... That's it, i gotta go get a Canadian Club.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 01:46:25 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: With Vince Gill

Carl Perkins, Leon Russell, Lee Roy Parnell, Patty Loveless, Pam Tillis, Little Jimmy Dickens, drummer of Kentucky Head Hunters, Fred Young, Bruce Hornsby, Delbert McClinton, Michael McDonald, Leland Sklar, Kevin Welch, Kelly Willis, and Reba McIntire.


Entered at Sat Jun 3 01:07:40 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.30)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norm, by 1;51 into the video i recognized, at the very least, Carl Perkins, Richard Bennett i think, Leon Russell, I wanna say Leland Sklar but realize i may be wrong on that call, Fred Young, the Kentucky headhunters drummer, that' three long beards already.... And then i stopped myself. With all courtesy intended, if i'm answering your question, we gotta start out even. I got one big Lagunitas in the freezer.Did you watch that video stone cold sober, or how many do i need to knock down to catch up before i really start counting for real? :-)

That Rodney Crowell show I posted about catching a while back.......some one i know caught it at City Winery in Nashville, they didn't get Roseanne Cash, Steuart Smith or John Wayne White as guests, but they did get Vince Gill, who was a former bandmate of Rodney's....


Entered at Fri Jun 2 21:31:46 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: Well, you know...
Web: My link

Subject: Mr. Grenadier

Copied right from the website, his name is Larry Grenadier. I've never heard of him, although he has played with Brad Mehldau, among others (see link).

Peter, to tie things together, check out "Cannonball Plays Zawinal" Have Mercy On Me, indeed.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 19:12:28 CEST 2017 from (67.70.148.126)

Posted by:

Bill M

b.lee: Larry Grenadier on bass - seem like a spellchecker thing to me, though I can't claim to know today's jazz bassists.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 18:36:13 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Talkin' About Vince Gill

Looking at this old Vince Gill video, take a look at how many people play with him on this song and see how many you can name.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 18:20:02 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cannonball

Cannonball Adderley's Capitol 45s have "SOUL JAZZ" printed on them in the 1965 UK edition … so they creep towards the soul section.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 18:18:07 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My main Weather Report playlist has 8 of your 10 too.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 18:15:35 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Weather report

I have an iPad Playlist which I very often listen to before going to sleep on headphones. This has five Weather Report tracks:

Adios (Sweetnighter)

A Remark You Made (Heavy Weather)

Badia (Tale Spinnin')

The Juggler (Heavy Weather)

Jungle Book (Mysterious Traveller)

The playlist also has

Blue Bolero - Abdullah Ibrahim

Bolivia - Gato Barber

El Segadors - Charlie Haden

It works for me. Because I have also had to move the hi-fi for 3 weeks, I was just checking it still worked with the track I have used for years … Birdland by Weather Report in the Gold remaster edition. Try it - the quality of the system shows on whether you can hear Jaco's left hand on the strings with no right hand.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 16:38:17 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Weather Report

Peter, I would put Weather Report there too.

I rarely make compilations, or what we used to call "car tapes" but did one of WR

Cucumber Slumber (Mysterious Traveller)
American Tango (Mysterious Traveller
Teen Town (Heavy Weather)
Barbary Coast (Black Market)
Boogie Woogie Waltz (Sweetnighter)
Herandnu (Black Market)
125th Street Congress (Sweetnighter)
Black Market (Black Market)
Nubian Sundance (Mysterious Traveller)
Non-Stop Home (Sweetnighter

Obviously favoring the earlier albums. By the time "9:30" came out, I had moved on, I guess.

Hope you have some Jazz Crusaders and Cannonball Adderly in that pile as well...


Entered at Fri Jun 2 16:35:39 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Eagles Fly on Friday

Jeff, at this point in time, I suspect most warring factions in bands have mellowed on the basis that (a) they’re all “partial to a payday” and (b) they can afford to travel without close proximity and have separate dressing rooms. As you say, they “understand the gig.”


Entered at Fri Jun 2 16:24:47 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Jazz covers that worked …

Not all of them do. Two that really did work were Miles Davis doing Time After Time (LINKED, Live) and Human Nature. I don't know if I have enough jazz to judge. In my sorting out of LPs today I decided to have a "premium section" in one room. I just moved Weather Report from the jazz section to "premium."


Entered at Fri Jun 2 16:20:54 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.211)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, the most interesting thing in the new Eagles situation is Vince Gill. Despite the fact that he'll be a hired hand, & he's a professional, I doubt Henley can fuck with him. Though he understands the gig, there's only so much he'd take, & I think that even Henley would be careful how he behaves towards him. So there's some chance this might be a looser Eagles thing if it is to progress.

All that said, beyond specific songs, I'm not a fan.

Now if any combination of Chris Hillman, Bernie Leadon, Rick Roberts, John Jorgenson, Herb Pedersen,Jaydee Maness, & a drummer got a version of the Flying Burritos, Desert Rose Band, or Flying Rose Band together, I'd be looking forward to it.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 16:10:01 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Hudson

Now here's one, as Rod Sterling used to say "for your consideration".

An upcoming release by jazz a 'super-group' (read, one-off collaboration) between guitarist John Scofield, drummer Jack DeJonnette, keyboardist John Martin and bassist Larry Grenadier under the moniker “Hudson”.

Selections include Bob's "Lay, Lady, Lay" and "Hard Rain", Joni's "Woodstock", Jimi's "Wait Until Tomorrow" and Our Boys' "Up on Cripple Creek", with an unrecognizable, somewhat Garth-esque intro amongst more jazz-oriented compositions, old and new. Not sure if this actually works, even though I am a fan of Scofield, not so much of Mr. DeJohnette. (The first Mrs. Lee once proposed developing a device that would send an electric current through Jack's drum stool after every 1000 cymbal hits. The "Jack DeJonette Excessive Cymbal Use Electrocution Device".)

This is pretty gnarly stuff, possibly indulgent improvisational excess, IMHO. Not sure why jazz guys in their later years seem to be recording 60s/70s pop songs. (See Herbie Hankock.) Maybe they are tired of playing the "classic standards" playbook, now co-opted by aging rockers. (See Rod Stewart.)

Listen. Discuss. Maybe we can get back to talking about music.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 11:03:04 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

We are decorating our main listening room. It is lined with CDs and LPs and I've been boxing up the CDs to move for the next couple of weeks and am now on the LPs. Because the racks were full, CDs and LPs from the last few years are elsewhere and I've been trying to integrate them back into some sort of order as I pack them. And yes, David Powell was on my mind yesterday when I started on the LPs and handled the first Allman Brothers (which I'd forgotten I had) and Brothers & Sisters which is my favourite. Well, actually, the only one I know well. I'm just up to K now. King Crimson.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 08:45:16 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Eagles

I'd go to see them … Don Henley was great last year. You've still got half the "original" vocal parts. Good luck to them.

I can't imagine Queen without Freddie Mercury, or The Who without Roger Daltrey, but when you have several lead singers it's fair … e.g. the 90s Band without Richard.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 07:03:59 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.119)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: New Eagles Line Up

No joke. See the link. If the kid's good, i love it. Talk about a helluva way to break in. Vince is a good move. Dropping Steuart Smith, if they are, is not a good move, but.........


Entered at Fri Jun 2 05:25:10 CEST 2017 from (24.114.66.134)

Posted by:

Kevin J

What a pleasant surprise to get in and see our pal bob w here and remembering/celebrating David P.....Beautifiul......Thank you, Bob.

"The old neighbourhood just ain't the same" without him.......isn't that right Ophelia...


Entered at Fri Jun 2 03:59:34 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Remembering David Powell

Yes thank you Bob, well said. David Powell was one of the most important sources of the electricity that kept this place operating. He is missed every day.

How are you Bob? Haven't been around or on the "Book" much lately.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 03:35:51 CEST 2017 from (67.70.148.126)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bob W: Thanks - yes, a toast to David P.


Entered at Fri Jun 2 01:58:20 CEST 2017 from (100.14.98.95)

Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: David Powell

Today would have been our friend David's 67th birthday. He is missed. I plan to raise a glass in his honor this evening.

Too soon gone.

Best to everyone here.


Entered at Thu Jun 1 18:43:54 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The summer of love!

I've just been having a bit of brunch, watching the CBC news. There was a good piece about the honouring of the anniversary of the making of "Seargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts club Band" at Abby Road. There was speculation as to who Seargent Pepper really was.

During this bit of news, a comment caught my attention. "1967 The Summer of Love." This brought back many memories. I remember it well. The American draft dodgers and hippies were pouring over our border. I became, and still am friends with many. Playing music brought many of us together. One particular fellow that came to mind is "Angel Warezz". I don't think I spelt his last name right. It's so long ago I forget.

This fellow is Carlos Santana's cousin. One of the damnest classical guitarists I've ever met. Now and then he would stop into one of our jam sessions and play just like Carlos. I always remember he called himself a consienceous objector. He always used to say, "Love your brother man!".

As I watched the rest of the news it is mind boggling how the great country of the United States can be brought down by the insanity of one man. The reports of what will happen if he pulls the USA out of the "Paris Accord" in which case they are saying China will become the lead country.

"Make America Great Again" is ironic when the exact opposite is happening. It is frustrating, and embarrassing to watch when there are so many great people there who don't seem to be able to do anything about it just now.


Entered at Thu Jun 1 18:11:40 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: New tunes!

The UPS man was good to me yesterday, bringing the two latest David Bromberg Band CDs "Only Slightly Mad" from 2013 and "The Blues, The Blues and Nothing But the Blues" and Tim O'Brien's latest "Where the River Meets the Road". Lots of Band connections...both Bromberg CDs produced by Larry Campbell, the former recorded at Levon's barn. John Sebastian makes an appearance as does Amy Helm. Bill Payne appears on the latter on a few tracks. Haven't made it to the O'Brien yet.

Hoping to score tickets to David & co. appearing at the local Arden Gild Hall in September, capacity 200 (seated) or 300 (standing). Home in five minutes, how could we lose?


Entered at Thu Jun 1 17:57:09 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.119)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

NWC, the only message I got from your comments is you don't understand English.


Entered at Thu Jun 1 17:52:51 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Band - On the road

That sure sounds good Bill. On the road next week. Driving out to Estavan Saskatchewan to see Susan's son Ken and his family. That's a little too far for me to come. I'd get lost in Ontario. :-)


Entered at Thu Jun 1 16:34:49 CEST 2017 from (64.229.182.143)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: upcoming Last Waltz tributes in southern Ontario

The LAST WALTZ - a Musical Celebration of THE BAND - Live - will be bringing together 13 of Canada’s top Blues and Roots musicians to play the music of The BAND on the main stage of the Orangeville Blues Fest Sunday June 4th at 4:30PM. Featuring Jerome Levon Avis (Levon Helm’s godson) on drums and vocals, and special guests Chuck Jackson (Downchild Blues Band), Matt Weidinger, Johnny Max and Quisha Wint. This all-star group is led by Juno award winning producer/arranger Lance Anderson.

This critically acclaimed show has been touring across Ontario and Western Canada to sell out crowds and standing ovations. The music of The BAND is as vital today as it was some 40 years ago. this show has been included in many festival’s Canada 150 celebrations as all of The Band’s music was written by Canadians. As in the 1976 concert film directed by Martin Scorcese, we also play selections from their friends Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Dr. John, Mavis Staples, Ronnie Hawkins and more.

We all really believe in bringing this music to a live stage. It is part of our shared Canadian musical heritage. It was originally done as a one-off for the Kitchener Blues Festival, but the crowd loved it so much and all the musicians loved playing the music so much that we thought we should “do it again.” That was seven years ago.

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtOkJziAkAY

Performances This Summer:

June 4th - Orangeville Blues and Jazz Festival - 4:30PM - https://orangevillebluesandjazz.ca

July 9th - Mariposa Folk Festival - Main Stage - 9:00PM - http://www.mariposafolk.com

July 22nd - Beaches International Jazz Festival - Main Stage Woodbine Park - 9:00PM - http://beachesjazz.com

Aug 3rd - Fonthill Bandshell Concert Series - 7:00PM - http://www.fonthillbandshell.com

Aug 11th - Kitchener Blues Festival - 9:00PM - http://www.kitchenerbluesfestival.com

Aug 17th - Huntsville Algonquin Theatre - 7:00PM - http://www.algonquintheatre.ca

Oct 14th - Canal Bank Shuffle Thorold ON - afternoon - http://www.canalbankshuffle.com


Entered at Thu Jun 1 15:45:26 CEST 2017 from (83.249.172.29)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Jeffi A

Thanks for your Academic advice, sir. You've got the message, though :-) - A funny thing about this _i_ is that they actually spell Rosalind as "Rosalindi" in Swiss Confederation and the Danish supermarket Brugsen as "Brugseni" in Greenland. Marmotte is "murmel_i_" in Switzerland, right? A band in Finnish is "bänd_i_" - I wonder if a Jew can afford nationalist sexist jokes, Jeff_i_?


Entered at Thu Jun 1 14:49:43 CEST 2017 from (24.114.66.2)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: tied ...

Fred: I take it as confirmation that the GB is a whipping post.


Entered at Thu Jun 1 14:30:15 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.119)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

NWC.Without commenting on the content of your post, allow me to help you academically. Rosalindesque would be spelled with an e between the d & s, not an i.

Now that i think about, the content does display academic failure as well.


Entered at Thu Jun 1 13:29:30 CEST 2017 from (83.249.172.29)

Posted by:

NorhWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: 1.) Thanks John D (Muddy Waters) 2.) Jeff A's sexist Rosalindisque so called "joke"

1.) Thanks John D for your information on Muddy Waters. This is _JUST_ what I meant about Academia. There are still a few persons who have the first hand information. C'MON AMERICAN AND CANADIAN MUSIC SCIENTIST AND DO YOUR JOB!!!!! (Thanks to Wallsend for asking your never-ending uncomfortable questions. That's how music science should work.) I had the chance to see Muddy Waters sitting on chair and singing the blues shortly before he passed away. Something I don't forget.

2.) Comment cancelled, Jeff A on First Lady: - Just finished Poisson Gratinee a la Bretagne (cooked by me "himself") and a glass or three of Australian white wine. I am in too good mood to comment your sexist Rosalindisque so called joke on First Lady.


Entered at Thu Jun 1 12:17:10 CEST 2017 from (114.75.199.135)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Music with a message.


Entered at Thu Jun 1 11:26:02 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: So that's what they mean by ethernet...

I notice Gregg Allman keeps posting. Good thing to know that there's internet service in the hereafter. ; )


Entered at Thu Jun 1 08:34:00 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.104)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Barack Obama and Donald Trump somehow ended up at the same barber shop, can you just imagine… As they sat there, each being worked on by a different barber, not a word was spoken. The barbers were both afraid to start a conversation, for fear it would turn nasty.

As the barbers finished their shaves, the one who had Trump in his chair reached for the aftershave.

But Donald was quick to stop him, jokingly saying, "No thanks. My wife, Melania, will smell that and think I've been in a brothel."

The second barber turned to Barack and said, "How about you, Mr. Obama ?"

Barack replied, "Go right ahead, my wife Michelle, doesn't know what the inside of a brothel smells like."


Entered at Thu Jun 1 06:00:10 CEST 2017 from (202.45.129.181)

Posted by:

Ukehouse

Location: Japan
Web: My link

Subject: When I Paint My Masterpiece

I played the tune with ukulele, have fun ;-)


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