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Norm JLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: Marcus King Band
One more note. Marcus King, the boy who sings the first verse of "The Weight" on that new video. Well I was impressed with him so I looked him up.
Well shit! If you haven't heard this boy and his band, listen to his song "Side Door". He has obviously absorbed a lot of BB King into that 335 of his. BB would sit up and take notice. His singing and his band are incredible. I expect we'll hear a lot more of this boy.
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Norm JLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: John Donabe
John, not to take anything away from Sebastian Robertson. You should, (if you haven't) read about Mark Johnson who was the leading founder of "Playing For Change".
His concept of changing the world through bringing people together from all over the world with music. The equipment he uses and what he does with the money was what motivated me to join the Playing for change movement a few years ago.
One of my all time favourites is Guantanamera. The playing and singing is amazing. 75 Cuban people all over the world joining in. A violin orchestra of young ladies. People in the streets, one young guy with a brake drum off a car and a piece of steel for percussion. The sound Mark creates and the rythmn of that song are perfect.
Entered at Sat Sep 21 14:23:19 CEST 2019 from (2604:6000:e909:6c00:a80d:3ae6:5673:fbdc)Posted by:
Joe FreyLocation: Saratoga Springs, NY
Rolling Stone has posted its review. 3 and 1/2 stars.
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Ray : Just had my first listen and it sounds as bad as all his other solo albums. I can count maybe six songs Robbie has done over the years that I like and this album hasn't changed that opinion.
I do love the playing for change version of The Weight!
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WallsendIt is interesting to see how many of the reviews of OWB are located in a discourse based on Levon's allegations. I guess this is not surprising since they are written by people who only have a superficial understanding of the topic.
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Ray MizumuraLocation: Lawrence, Kansas/the heartland/flyover country
I have a copy of Sinematic and am through with my first hearing.
In the next day or so, I'll send some commentary.
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Bill MLocation: Tronno
Web: My link
Here's a link to a local newspaper (non) review of "Once Were Brothers". Three out of four stars, though there's precious little to show that the writer actually saw the film. But we saw that here too, though from the one-star crowd. Anyway, the actual newspaper version says the film opened today at a regular theatre downtown - appropriately, the Cineplex at Yonge and Dundas, the throbbing heart of the Hawks' old stomping grounds.
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Jon LynessLocation: NYC
OK, I’ll bite. What is the story there?
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Pat BBlew the first meeting? You are being kind.
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Norm JLocation: Pacific Northwest
I always take the time to look at the comments on these videos. In such a short time I don't recall ever seeing so many comments and so positive adds to the good job that is done.
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Peter VSubject: Garth Brooks
Didn't he try to get the 90s Band signed to his management and promoted? It was said Levon and Rick blew the first meeting.
Entered at Fri Sep 20 07:53:15 CEST 2019 from n1-43-95-157.mas2.nsw.optusnet.com.au (18.104.22.168)Posted by:
WallsendIf you search on Youtube for 'The Weight (A Thank You)' there is another really cool version of this song.
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Norm JLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: The Amazing Contrast
Hi Bill. Thanks for the nod. Your comment is food for thought.
I have just spent a while laying back in my chair at my desk listening to this work of art that Sebastian has engineered. I'm sure all would agree. It needs to be listened to many times because there is so much to grasp.
For example, Lukas Nelson, Willie's boy sings his verse so beautifully but the few licks he puts in place sound like they came from his father's hands. There is many examples here to give. These people are so wonderful.
What Mark Johnson has accomplished since he walked along a street in Santa Monica and heard Roger Ridley playing for change on that street has become the greatest movement this world has seen.
What I mean by "contrast" is, we watch on the news these CRAZY FUCKED UP POLITICIANS! Trying to blow each other up from a maniac president of the USA, to a murderous idiot in Saudi Arabia and Iran. It is so hard to make sense of this planet now.
When you lay back and listen and watch these people with this music and how we should get along.........how do you figure it out?
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Jon LynessLocation: NYC
Subject: The Weight/Playing For Change
Wow, sounds GREAT!
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John DSubject: Playing For Change
Once again we see the incredible talent of Sebastian Robertson in producing this piece. I have enjoyed the Playing For Change recordings; but I think this is the best since Stand By Me. If you can't have Levon then Ringo is your man. What a magnificent drummer he has always been.
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Jon LynessLocation: NYC
Subject: Re: Islands
Bill, FWIW I’d say the album’s cover artist was certainly thinking the latter.
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Bill MNorm: Thanks for checking in. Your mention of the Aleutians got me thinking of the OQ's final LP. I wonder if whoever came up with the title was/were thinking of chunks of land separated by water or human beings who've grown apart.
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John DWeb: My link
Subject: Jacques Levy
Left out of the Rolling Thunder review film and the Album Desire. An article; on how his son tried to find out why.
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Norm J.Location: Pacific Northwest "Some where south of the Aluetian Islands"
Subject: Playing For Change
I guess I should have realized most everyone would have heard the best Playing For Change recording yet. Great lineup with Larkin Poe and Willie's boy plus some of my favourites.
I don't know if every one has looked at what the "Playing For Change" folks do with the money from this work.
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Bill MSubject: the other R.E.M.
JQ: I like that tag, "Republican Elevator Music".
Entered at Wed Sep 18 19:50:29 CEST 2019 from (2600:387:4:802::82)Posted by:
JQSubject: The Burns doc and Garth Brooks
Garth Brooks seems a nice guy and good entertainer and it’ll be interesting when they get to him and the following chronology. I’d mark his era as the beginning of the end and the onset of what has become banal rock and roll, with a fiddle added, and beloved as republican elevator music. Americana took over as the place for quality musicianship and great writing, to this day. I wonder if the Burns’ crowd will see it that way.
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b.leeLocation: DE, USA
Subject: Burns Country
Have caught bits and pieces, Lisa. Think I will wait until in gets into the streaming realm so I can control the binge dosage, but what I've seen has been top notch. It will be interesting when they get to the period when Chet Atkins ruled in Nashville, and similarly Garth Brooks, who I see is a commentator. Did they save Country Music or pervert it? Right now I am getting my B&W docu fix by catching up on the Roosevelt series, usually dozing off watching after Mrs. lee has turned in and having to copiously rewind the next night. That Peter Coyote narration is just too, too soothing sometimes!
On a personal note, pleased to say that over a year after my recovery my lost fingernails have finally grown back enough to risk playing some guitar. Re-strung the Strat with as light as I can stand and have been noodling, unplugged on the couch. Not up to the acoustic yet. But it's progress.
Entered at Wed Sep 18 18:14:44 CEST 2019 from (2604:6000:e909:6c00:f180:7237:f1df:1130)Posted by:
Joe FreyLocation: Saratoga Springs, NY
Subject: The Weight
Thanks BEG, I really enjoyed that. Joe
Entered at Wed Sep 18 17:32:29 CEST 2019 from toroon0240w-lp140-08-64-231-150-204.dsl.bell.ca (22.214.171.124)Posted by:
brown eyed girlWeb: My link
SEPTEMBER 18, 2019 9:53AM ET
Robbie Robertson Plays ‘The Weight’ With Ringo Starr and Musicians Across Five Continents
The epic Playing for Change video was the result two years of work across ten countries
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JQSubject: Country Music Doc
Hi Lisa - I’m really enjoying it too. I know a bit about this and it’s great to see it all this way, particularly the footage I’ve never seen before. Nothing explains the present like a good history lesson.
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Bill MJoe F: Thanks for the heads-up.
Lisa: I saw a bit of it, the focus on Jimmy Rodgers and the Carters. Ralph Peer certainly came out well.
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Joe FreyLocation: Saratoga Springs, NY
Subject: Van the Man
New Van out on October 25th: Three Chords & the Truth. Dark Night of the Soul is streaming now. Joe
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LisaIs anybody watching Ken Burns's Country Music series? It's really good!
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Peter VSubject: FIVE for Sunday
Woman, Nancy Sinatra
The Best of Spooky Tooth
Spooky Two- Spooky Tooth
1968 - Jon Savage compilation
Plastic Fantastic People- Jimmy Ciff
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John DSubject: Garth
Great to see Garth visiting Willie Nelson in Poughkeepsie NY; on the net.
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Orville Peck - Pony
Fleetwood Mac - 1968 (debut, I think)
Ry Cooder - The UFO Has Landed
Moondog - 1969
Rosalie Sorrels - No Closing Chord
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Interesting, Solomon. I’ll check them out.
For the first time ever I’ve been using a Podcast on BBC iPlayer Sounds, entitled Classic Scottish Albums by Davy Scott, an expert on Scottish music who is always interesting to listen to. The podcasts confirm to me that as a small nation, Scotland punches above its weight in musical terms. I listen to the podcast, then I play the album a few times. The albums I’ve listened to relatively recently are:
The Average White Band - White Album
Stealers Wheel -Stealers Wheel
The Blue Nile - A Walk Across The Rooftops
John Martyn - Solid Air
Bert Jansch - Bert Jansch
I’ve learnt several new things about the albums, for example, how desperate Quentin Tarantino was to get Stuck In The Middle In Reservoir Dogs.
These are brilliant albums.
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Just wondering if anyone has a favourite Podcast? Thanks for the link Wallsend! I have a great app called Podcast Addict and download them all to my phone.
10 good Podcasts
Honky Tonk Radio Girl with Becky
Love That Album
Thanks For Given A Damn with Otis Gibbs
WTF with Marc Maron
The Naked American Songbook
My Favorite Album with Jeremy Dylan
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WallsendThere is also an interview with Rick on the Sipthewine blog site that I don't recall seeing before.
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WallsendThere is a podcast on the Famous Lost Words website including an old interview with Rick and Levon from the 1980s and also a short interview with Robbie. Nothing especially new but still quite interesting.
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SolomonSubject: Rock's Back Pages
AUDIO: The Band's Robbie Robertson (1991)
Tony Scherman, Rock's Backpages Audio, Fall 1991
Nice picture of Levon and Robbie from way back.
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In my office listening the Music From Big Pink and this remixed/remastered version of Yazoo Street Scandal has some incredible Garth organ that I never heard before. May not be The Beatles with 100 Greatest and a Sirius Station, but this music makes me the happiest, and there is almost always something new to appreciate. Time just to enjoy the music.
Entered at Thu Sep 12 16:14:14 CEST 2019 from (18.104.22.168)Posted by:
Grant - not a crank; you seem to care deeply about The Band guys and their music. That’s a good thing! I think it hurts all of us to think their special comraderie and incredible music didn’t last much longer, and that friendships frayed. We’ve got the music. Let that lift our spirits! The personal stuff; that’s really only theirs to reckon with.
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GrantLocation: The South
Oh forget what I said, Im just an old crank. It’s always good to see the Band celebrated.
Entered at Thu Sep 12 15:44:46 CEST 2019 from (2600:1017:b42b:963d:10ee:a744:7ffa:e6fc)Posted by:
GrantI suppose I’m being harsh. I love The Band and I love Robbie, telling The Bands story through him is interesting and he should absolutely have the right to tell his story, Levon did, so why not. I just think there has yet to be a level headed portrait of the Band that treats the other members as something more than sketches.
Entered at Thu Sep 12 14:56:52 CEST 2019 from (22.214.171.124)Posted by:
Wallsend - Thank you for the kind, gracious way you respond to others. That approach is so thoughtful and much appreciated. It helps to promote peace, and I thank you for that.
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WallsendGrant, it is hard for those of us who have not seen it to form an opinion but what we know is that it is based on Robbie's book so it is telling the story from his perspective. According to what I have read, Roher is a big fan of The Band even though he is young. I don't know how much Dylan could add because his work with the Band was only one, relatively short, aspect of his long career. Also, in his interviews at least, he is not very communicative. I am not sure what you mean about Robbie being opportunistic, he seems to have built his career on hard work.
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Entered at Thu Sep 12 14:09:57 CEST 2019 from (2600:1017:b42b:963d:10ee:a744:7ffa:e6fc)Posted by:
It seems to me that the doc is struggling to find its voice and its desire to appease Robbie makes him an unreliable narrator when telling the Bands story (which is what I think a lot of folks are expecting.) I don’t get the sense the director knows the Band very well, he seems as opportunistic as RR. At the end of the day my feeling is that the only person who could accurately give us true insight into their story is Dylan. Haven’t seen any positive reviews either except for Bill M. We’ll have to wait and see.
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Bill MWallsend: the Dylan clip was pretty recent, and my guess is that it was done just for the movie. One of the articles from the previous articles noted that Dylan was reluctant to appear but relented.
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WallsendAccording to what I read, OWB is getting world wide distribution next year. In the same interview that I quoted from, Roher said that Dylan did not want to do an interview for the movie but gave him access to his archives. Bill, was the Dylan interview a recent one? He also said they interviewed Garth but chose not to use it. I am guessing that was a polite way of saying it was unusable. Instead, he said, they decided to let Garth's music do the talking. No doubt the overwhelming majority of the available evidence supports Robbie's interpretation of events, but I think Roher was just saying that this thing we call 'truth' is subjective a la Rashomon. I am amazed that all this music has lasted as well as it has. When I was listening to it as a kid, I could not imagine I would still be talking about it fifty years later.
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Pat BWallsend, Al Kooper's 1968 RS review of MFBP called it the best album of 1968, "an event", a set of music that most musicians will work their lives away and never touch.
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Pat BThere are plenty of ways to test for accuracy in documentaries. Contemporary primary material is certainly the most important. Back in the good old days when the fued would erupt here, I'd always encourage folks to find out for themselves by consulting Jan's vast on site archives. You still can.
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Bill MBesides Toronto, where else has OWB played. Is it online? Hopefully everyone here will have a chance to see it. I really liked Dylan talking about his appreciation for the Hawks' strength in sticking with him on the '65-'66 tour. This would have gone well with the second verse of the alternate take of "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" - which is clearly Dylan's coachly pep talk to his deflated (and maybe even insecure) team. Unfortunately, director Roher chose to go with the unenlightening first verse about feeding the cat.
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WallsendI guess we will have to hold our judgement on OWB until we have had a chance to see it but, based on the article in The Star that Jan posted on the What's New page, Daniel Roher seems to have been sensitive to the issues he was dealing with:
Since the film is mainly Robbie Robertson’s account of the Band, and he’s just one-fifth of the group, how much can we rely on it for accuracy?
The Band had five guys with five different memories and five different perceptions of what happened. This is Robbie’s truth. Do I verify it as much as I can with the people who where there? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, everyone has a different perception of what happened. No one was standing behind these guys taking notes. Nobody thought Music From Big Pink would be talked about and listened to and celebrated 50 years later. They were just five young men, my age, trying to do the best that they could in extraordinary circumstances.
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ClintSubject: The "documentary"
Once again, Robbie has shown that he was the leader of The Band - in size of ego!
I think he's deeply insecure.
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John DWeb: My link
Subject: Bill M The Hawk On Red Carpet
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Bill MJohn D: Garth wasn't there. Don't know about Hawkins. Robbie wasn't even there for all of it, because he would have had to nip across the street with Scorsese for the special showing of the TLW movie that followed the premiere showing (which was, confusingly, before the gala showing (and across the street).
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John DonabieSubject: Bill M
Bill I know the Hawk was invited to the opening of Robbie's movie. Was Garth there?
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Joe FreySubject: Podcast
I enjoyed the podcast. Joe
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Thanks, Peter. It’s decent coverage on the BBC website. ‘Roots-rock, The Band’. There’s a handle -the need to categorise. Looking forward to seeing the film and Robbie’s new album.
Playing Creedence at Woodstock just now.
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Peter VJust choked over my morning coffee. There was a holiday supplement in the Sunday newspaper, and I was flicking through and saw an ad "Come and see Ontario's lakes and beavers." (In British English that's about OK)
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Mike NomadSubject: Toronto, TIFF, Robbie et al
Cabbagetown Girl (aka Angie) must be in heaven.
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Peter VSubject: Once Were Brothers
There's a lengthy piece on the BBC News website. They say it will have an international release. Not their words, but they compare it to Searching for Sugar Man, and suggest that it won't have the same cross-generational appeal, and also that OWB assumes some prior knowledge of The Band, which the Rodriguez documentary didn't.
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WallsendThere is an interesting podcast review of OWB on the Pantheon Podcasts website.
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JulesSubject: Once Were Brothers
It's a shame all the reviews seem to be negative about the documentary.
My connection to Robbie and Van ? I used to paint houses and clean windows.
I'm still looking forward to it!
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Bill MMike N: Thanks. I'd thought it was probably Grand Bend, but I've never been there so left it to others to confirm. I have been to other beaches on Lake Huron, especially Sauble, and the ribbon of darker water farther out always seems way higher than the beach, as if it's suspended. I haven't had that sense elsewhere.
By the way, toronto's mayor, John Tory, gave Robbie a key to the city prior to the screening of OWB on Sept 5. A photo of the two of them ran in the Toronto Star next day. Oddly, the only time I've Tory was years ago just after the AMH CD set came out. It was at a government-relations reception in late fall, and five of us were making small talk. Four of us admitted that we' dropped hints at home that a copy of AMH would make a welcome Christmas gift. The fifth, John Tory, seemed the odd man out, but I'm sure that's no longer the case.
Entered at Sat Sep 7 23:47:34 CEST 2019 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (184.108.40.206)Posted by:
Peter VI have been somewhat bereft since my Myrad CD player expired 3 months ago, and have been making do with a Pioneer DVD player in the hi fi system. Today I got an Arcam CD / SACD player to replace it. Test discs after set up, were as usual, Weather Report Birdland, gold remaster SBM version, which David P would have wanted to know. That shows the range from Jaco’s Incredible bass to Joe Zawinul’s keyboard. Then The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down from the gold remaster CD of The Band to check its naturalness of sound. It passed on both.
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WallsendLisa, I think the photo was first posted on the Robbie Fan Group page on Facebook. There is also an early track featuring Richard there. On the Levon Fan Group page people were posting nasty comments about Once Were Brothers. First the administrators closed the comments section and it all seems to have been taken down now.
Entered at Sat Sep 7 21:33:38 CEST 2019 from (2600:387:4:802::5c)Posted by:
One more for you Peter V. - This singer has one on the latest MOJO disc. Sounds good to me; do you know her stuff? From Bristol I believe.
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Dominic CummingsPV - This character has made the news here, for the first time, broadly at least. The parallels between youse and us in this regard are really astonishing. Our Rasputin is a hybrid of Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller.
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John DSubject: Grand Bend
If you were around in the sixties in the Golden Horseshoe area; then Grand Bend was the place to go for a Saturday night dance.
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Mike NomadSubject: Photo
For the benefit of those inside the Toronto bubble, the beach has a name: Grand Bend.
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Bill MJoe F: yes it did come out, big time. It seems that every showing was followed by a 'Play For Change' version - far flung musicians anchored by Ringo S on drums and Robbie on guitar. A great display of the greatness and timeandplacelessness of the song - but also reminds you the NOBODY can touch the original. As for the reviews, my sense is that many were written be people who would have written the same word before and after seeing it, or even if they hadn't seen it at all. Just another chance to pick at a scab.
Lisa: Looks like it'd be a beach on Lake Huron.
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LisaPat, that is an amazing photograph! Where on earth did it come from? And thanks, Peter - I wondered about the blouse thing too. Weird.
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Pat BWeb: My link
A great photo from 1961
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Peter vSubject: Big girl’s blouse
It’s an odd expression, apparently dating from a sitcom. To me, it’s a sports commentator 30 or more years ago criticizing a player who was reluctant to make a hard tackle. It has a tinge of homophobia. The blouse is big, not the girl. I’m sure I have never used it and it would be years since I last heard it. Boris using it is like hearing an expensively educated man calling you ‘mate’ in the vain hope that it makes him sound like a man of the people. It never does.
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WallsendThanks Lisa and BEG for the links. Seems like Robbie is in a happy place which is cool. I read the reviews too and thought they were mostly crap although I have to say I am not a big fan of 'talking heads' music documentaries. It is good that Robbie is keeping the Band memory alive. Peter, it seems you are having some interesting times politically over your way. I am learning a lot. I was not familiar with the expression 'a big girl's blouse' and did not know it was a term of abuse. Having spent most of my career teaching Japanese history, I have always found it interesting that in Japan they got rid of most of the aristocracy but in Britain they never did. Johnson and his associates seem like people from a different century. Not the twentieth, maybe the eighteenth.
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Joe FreySubject: Once Were Brothers
Of course, I haven't seen the movie yet, but enjoy and respect Bill M's comments. Some of the reviews were rather depressing, at least for me. One line in particular from a review (not the movie) irked me; that is: "The Band only did some tinkering here and there with Robertson’s genius."
I am not sure that I could think that the great music The Band created would be nearly as powerful without all five of these marvelous musicians. I know the line that I quoted was referring to song writing, but that is not really my point.
The music created by The Band needed everyone to contribute what they did, that was what made it great.
I hope that came out in the movie. Joe
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Bill MJQ: there was lots of new footage of talking heads talking Robbie talking, and the very impressive Dominique talking. (Hawkins too - insightful at times, funny as he'll at others.) Oh yes, Dylan too - very briefly but instructively. If you're looking for concert footage, much was new to me but I expect that it's all available elsewhere. There were snippets from a longer tape from when the very young Robbie and Levon appeared at a jam outside Toronto, but bits from the same tape appeared in "Yonge Street Rock & Roll Stories" a few years ago.
no name: John Simon did appear as a talking head. He wasn't especially insightful. Maybe better stuff ended up on the cutting room floor. Or maybe not.
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LisaWeb: My link
Subject: CBC "Q" interview
This interview ran yesterday on Tom Power's program. Although much of it is familiar territory, I thought it was a pretty good interview, a bit different from most.
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GlennSubject: oooops. : )
Boz, not Box Scaggs
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GlennSubject: Friday 5
Yes, thanks BEG for that background article on Once Were Brothers; interesting reading. And Dunc, glad you're enjoying Macca's back catalog; I have been playing some of his older albums: Red Rose, Flaming Pie, Back to the Egg, Ram.
Recent 5: Box Scaggs: My Time Anthology, Van Morrison & Joey DeFransesco: Driving Me Crazy, Norah Jones: Begin Again, Sheryl Crow: Be Myself, Bruce Springsteen: Darkness on Edge of Town.
Have a great weekend everybody!
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Jon LynessLocation: NYC
Subject: BEG's Exclaim interview (posted 8/31)
I finally had a chance to read the interview with coproducer Andrew Munger that BEG posted, which details Robbie's involvement with the Once Were Brothers film process. It's interesting reading for sure. This paragraph in particular is catching my eye:
"[Director Daniel Roher] pores over the outtakes from D.A. Pennebaker's landmark film Don't Look Back, and other footage of Dylan, Robbie and the other members of what would become the Band (Rick Danko, Levon Helm, Richard Manuel and Garth Hudson). Pennebaker's rare footage includes scenes of Dylan, Robbie, Levon and others backstage, in hotel rooms jamming, and other intimate settings. It's priceless and much of it has never been seen by the public."
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Subject: Amazon price
Looking forward to Robbie’s new release.
The price on Amazon will hit sales. I’ll go into Glasgow to Fopp to buy it because there is now no CD shop in my home town.
Amazon makes buying CDs easy and, more importantly, possible here. The price is out of proportion when compared to other CDs. Thirteen pounds would be fine.
Went CD collecting today into Glasgow and bought the remastered Wings Greatest. I’m really enjoying collecting the remastered McCartneys. Beautiful remastering.
Thanks BEG for links. I was going to post about the report that Garth was in poor health, but you got there before me.
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Peter VSubject: new Robbie
Thanks, so it is just some weird thing on amazon.co.uk. Will buy it at HMV when it comes out!
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Joe FreySubject: Five (or six) recently played
1. NRBQ - At Yankee Stadium (my favorite from that band)
2. The Youngbloods - Greatest Hits.
3. Jerry Garcia Band - Electric on the Eel (disc 3)
4. Muddy Waters et al. - Fathers and Sons (with bonus live cuts)
5. Lukas Nelson and the Promise of the Real - Turn Off The News (some nice songs on this one)
6. The Eagles - Joe's (me) Playlist.
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Joe FreySubject: Pricing
Robbie's new one is priced by Amazon, US at $9.99 for cd, $26.25 for LP and $42.95 for deluxe version (no description provided). Joe
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£11.99 from bobdylanisis com, £16.99 from badlands co uk
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Peter VSubject: Pricing? WTF?
Just went to amazon to order Sinematic … £21.08 for a single CD, £24.98 vinyl. This is DOUBLE the price of recent releases, e.g. Springsteen. So I scrolled down and How To Be Clairvoyant … from amazon stock, not re-sellers … is £22.73. Again, over double the normal new CD price on amazon.
What's he doing? No one else as far as I can see has brought the CD price up to vinyl price. This week's new releases from Taylor Swift, Sheryl Crow, Status Quo, Chrissie Hynde are around £10. OK, they might sell a lot … so looking down to Martin Simpson, who is more cult folk rather than a huge seller, and we add £2 to make it £11.99.
Is Robbie doing the same in the USA and Canada? I'm definitely not price sensitive with The Band, but I stopped and didn't order assuming there's some error. Also a degree of why would he think his album worth double the opposition?
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Peter VSubject: Bruce & The Band
From the web:
Levon Helm and his All Stars visited Springsteen’s “hometown” bar, The Stone Pony in Asbury Park, on August 22nd, 1987. The Boss was pretty much on hiatus from the road that year, so he often sat in when his musical friends would rock The Pony. As it was that night when Bruce emerged towards the end of the show. The crowd went nuts as Springsteen shared lead vocals on Up On Cripple Creek with Levon. Then, Bruce, Helm and the All Stars lit into a rollicking take on Little Richard’s Lucille. You could tell the two were getting off on the experience by the knowing glances they exchanged in a fan-shot video that thankfully emerged of the sit-in.
Unfortunately the video which used to be online is no longer available.
And The Band covered Atlantic City.
Bruce also did a Tribute version of The Weight in 2012.
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No NameMr. Robertson has a very high opinion of himself to say the least. I get that he wrote the greatest number of songs and that it was mostly his direction through his song writing that made The Band who they were, but listening to him talk about himself is nauseating. I can see Van and Clapton in this as both were there, and in particular Clapton was a big fan. Not sure what Springsteen’s connection was to the 60’s and 70’s Band, as there was none that I’ve ever heard. Wouldn’t a contribution from John Simon be appropriate, obviously not as splashy as-having Springsteen, but hearing from someone who was actually there for The Bands greatest work would make more sense. All in all this is Robbies version of what it was back in the day and there’s nothing new as far as his recollection of his being exhausted from having to pick up the pieces because of his band mates drug problems.
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Peter VFive songs for Friday:
Sultans of Swing – Dire Straits
The Stones I Throw- Amy Helm
Violet Eyes – Levon Helm
Ventura – Lucinda Williams & Charles Llyod
Sapelo – Larry Jon Wilson
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JQSubject: Once We’re Brothers
Bill M - Did did you see much new footage? That’s a few reviews out already and they seem mixed so far.
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Bill MJust emerged from the premiere of "Once Were Brothers". Excellent - so much better than I'd expected. A couple of odd choices of talking heads, but that's my only complaint, really, aside from the thought that Garth (who did get a nod at the end) should have gotten a more vigorous nod.
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jhWeb: My link
Subject: Once Were Brothers
YouTube audio. Enjoy.
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Peter VJust went on to iTunes. LET LOVE REIGN from Robbie's new one is available as is I HEAR YOU PAINT HOUSES but no availability on Once We Were Brothers
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Jon LynessLocation: NYC
Subject: Re: Once Were Brothers
Thanks BEG! Great song; it's a theme Robbie has covered before with This Is Where I Get Off but well done here all the same. Looking forward to the album.
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brown eyed girlWeb: My link
Robbie Robertson Chronicles the End of the Band in Bittersweet New Song 'Once Were Brothers'
“When the light goes out and you can’t go on
Robertson sings on the track, which features appearances by Nairobi native J.S. Ondara and singer/songwriter Citizen Cope. The chorus is a bittersweet farewell to his fallen bandmates and the bond they all shared.
“Once were brothers, brothers no more
“There is war and conflict involved,” Robertson, 76, says of the deeply personal song. “Writing it hurt inside sometimes, but those experiences can be rewarding in the emotional outcome. It hurt but I loved it.”
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Peter VI'd say that with Garth, you'd let him direct the conversation and wait for the gems to fall. I can't see a direct question approach working. It'd be a case of hang out for a few days, and listen, don't interrogate. However, while that might work with a book or article, with a film crew standing there and a budget you need to expect a usable clip in three or four takes. If you've ever been interviewed with a camera in front of your nose, it is incredibly stressful because of the expectation of an articulate soundbite fast.
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Bill MIt was pretty obvious in the TLW movie that Garth is uncomfortable with rock and roll interviews. I've found him to be quite capable of everyday conversation about this and that, including music. Maybe producer Roher neglected rule #1 - if you wish to communicate with someone, speak in their language.
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Joe FreySubject: When We Were Brothers
Thank you Peter and BEG.
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brown eyed girlWeb: My link
"I didn't realize this was going to be so emotional": Robbie Robertson reacts to a new documentary about his legendary rock group The Band
Robbie Robertson documentary opens TIFF in a 'golden age' for rock docs
Once Were Brothers is a part of a boom in rock docs. But do stars wield too much power over these stories?
In the Exclaim article I posted below the only mention of Garth was that he was in poor health. :-(
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Peter VSubject: Once We Were Brothers
In the article in UNCUT, OCTOBER 2019, p57 they describe trying to interview Garth and said it didn't work out. Roher travelled to Woodstock's Kingston Diner for "a midnight rendezvous.".
DANIEL ROHER: "Garth didn't arrive until nearly 2.30. He is getting older and that was apparent. But what I never really understood until I met him is that Garth communicates with the world through his music. We weren't able to put Garth as he is now in the film. It is challenging to have a conversation with him. But he has a professorial presence that I was humbled by. It was quite awesome to be with him."
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Joe FreySubject: Once We Were Brothers
Maybe I missed it, but in all of the articles, I didn't see if Garth was being interviewed. Anybody know? Joe
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SiWe're making plans for Nigel.
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JQSubject: Boris Trump
PV - WTF is going on over there? It’s seems, perhaps, that optimism is in order? Is there no real choice for the voters between Boris and Corbyn? In any event maybe this global rightward pitch is getting back into some balance. Here too, hopefully.
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Joe FreySubject: Last Waltz Tribute Tour
New Last Waltz Tribute Tour announced on Rolling Stone (online). Endorsed by Robbie.
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Peter VSubject: Girl who can't say no
It does come from Oklahoma. One of the greatest clips from Fawlty Towers too.
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JQSubject: Chris Hayes
He’s a young (30’s) MSNBC commentator and brilliant reporter. He just tweeted - “Best thing you can hear your 7 year old daughter say: Alexa play The Weight by The Band”. Quite a few appreciative tweets have followed.
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Bill MPeter V: "Oklahoma" is Americana, but what it calls to my mind is Polly singing "I'm Just A Girl Who Can't Say No" on the Gourmet Night episode of "Fawlty Towers". (I'm not even sure the song comes from "Oklahoma".)
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Peter VWeb: My link
A link to my review of Oklahoma! at Chichester Festival Theatre. I don't usually link theatre, but it's music and it's Americana in a way!
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NorthWestCoasterLocation: Greater Copenhagen
Subject: "Who hates The Band?" / Bill M
Thanks Bill M, you got me going! - I am a keen contributor in Scandinavian Linux and political sites. I post with another handle, not as NWC. I am a Band coward, you see. I work on this issue: "Who hates The Band?"
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RodAh yes, T Rex. One of the first albums I ever bought was Tanx - mainly because it was only $2.99. Just tracked it down on Spotify. Still entertaining.