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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

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Entered at Tue Sep 2 06:55:55 CEST 2014 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Barbara Lynn

Try her Can't Buy My Love". Robert Plant covered that one with his Band of Joy. She's from Beumont TX and influenced Doug Sahm too. On that track you can hear an Augie Meyers style of organ sound -


Entered at Tue Sep 2 03:04:22 CEST 2014 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Barbara Lynn

Give a listen to this Lady doing "You'll lose a good thing" on youtube. Levon and the boys were listening to this stuff back in the day and were trying to better it with their act. Hence Jerry Penfound. Do the Honky Tonk still knocks me out.


Entered at Tue Sep 2 02:16:14 CEST 2014 from (108.88.110.210)

Posted by:

Pat B

Re-mastering technology goes through revolutionary changes every year now.


Entered at Tue Sep 2 02:09:07 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: HMV v. Amazon

According to the financial pages, HMV is on the brink of returning to be the UK's biggest CD/DVD retailer in terms of sales of "physical music", ahead of Amazon. Apparently CD and vinyl sales grew by 3% in the 12 months to June but HMV's sales grew by four times that. Amazon now has 20% of the UK market across music and DVDs and HMV is snapping at its heels with 19%. Most surprisingly, HMV does not sell "physical" product on-line. The HMV Chairman says that it's about being "an authority on music" rather than "selling music as a commodity"


Entered at Tue Sep 2 01:38:52 CEST 2014 from (175.179.199.55)

Posted by:

Kerrin

If we want a sample of how a Hawks show might polish up, I guess Do The Honky Tonk from the ATGD box set would be an indication. Surely they used the best available source for that, and I don't think re-mastering technology has changed that much in 20 years. A whole CD, let alone a set, of that would challenge even dedicated Band fans. I too have the boots. I would add that the vocals were a revelation. Richard is really at his peak, and Rick is being pretty "straight" compared to later live stuff. Garth was fantastic on the tapes I have, and Robbie never played that way with The Band. Beyond that though...you can tell they're very tight, but it just sounds like a pulse.


Entered at Tue Sep 2 01:24:42 CEST 2014 from (58.104.20.232)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

... and the same song from a few years later. Where did all those years go. I remember seeing Summer Holiday and it being one of the first songs I liked.


Entered at Mon Sep 1 22:39:20 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: ABC Kingston, not Croydon!

I never thought I'd link to a drum solo, but go 35 seconds in to miss the banter and you have The Shadows recorded live in 1962 doing "Little B." Forget the music for a moment … and just compare the recording quality, even on YouTube for drums that year.

I might add that Brian Bennett started a long and highly undesirable tradition here, but it's 1962 recording that's of interest,


Entered at Mon Sep 1 22:31:13 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

There's not a lot of dialogue over this 8 CD set, is there? I mean with the producers. I'm so fascinated that I dug out Port Dover, Craig Plaza and Old Shoes bootlegs. The quality is extremely low … fascinating to hear the vocals, but not a lot else is worth listening to. Compared to Zoot Money live at Kook's Kleek, as I've said before, I suspect in 1964 Zoot might have … well, hardly blown The Hawks off the stage … but would have won on points from a neutral observer, with much the same instrumental line up too. Having a lot of good banter and audience interaction helps of course.

I started playing around listening to early 60s live recordings. Trini Lopez, Joey Dee, Johnny Rivers. Joey Dee really does sound badly recorded now, but Trini Lopez with a simpler band survives well.

The crispest though, rejected back in the day, is Cliff Richard & The Shadows Live At The ABC Croydon … they actually managed to record live drums well in 1962, which as way beyond most professional engineers.


Entered at Mon Sep 1 19:22:37 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Norah Jones

Today's Toppermost (linked) is me talking about Norah Jones. Do comment over there if so moved.


Entered at Mon Sep 1 13:50:32 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Basement Tapes wouldn't be that primitive … a good semi-pro recorder like a Revox at 7.5 IPS has plenty of frequency range, and even if they used stage mics rather than dedicated recording mics, there's still plenty of inherent quality. The problem in a venue is going to be the quality of the mic and whether there was just the one.


Entered at Mon Sep 1 11:02:29 CEST 2014 from (58.104.20.250)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I am a bit sceptical as to whether the quality could ever be pushed up to a commercial standard. With the basement tapes, even if it was recorded on primitive equipment, it was in a controlled small environment. A live recording of a rock band in a largish venue with probably dodgy acoustics would be a different kettle of fish.


Entered at Mon Sep 1 09:43:56 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'd imagine they know what they're going to do, but there was a recent article on the rise of subscription publishing in both books and music. There are various models and even agencies who set it up. I think the last Simone Felice and the last Linda Thompson had subscription models. You pre-buy, or subscribe more for a signed copy, or even more for a de-luxe version or whatever. In the Linda Thompson case and others, subscribers are listed on the sleeve.

It is enabling stuff to get out. But who knows with this one? They got the Rick Danko albums out without subscriptions. They must have a business plan, but I still think a "taster" is essential to drum up interest.



Entered at Mon Sep 1 08:12:37 CEST 2014 from (58.104.20.250)

Posted by:

Wallsend

If the release of pre-Dylan Hawks material is not commercially viable maybe it could be crowd-funded as Elliot Landy did with his book of Band photos.


Entered at Mon Sep 1 04:34:18 CEST 2014 from (67.83.171.31)

Posted by:

Ray

Piss on you aunt and splash her off, LOL... no thanks.


Entered at Mon Sep 1 02:53:40 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Boiler Makers!

Bunch-a-piss ants!......Be a man fer chris-sake! Drink Crown Royal with a splash a water and follow it with Lucky Lager beer.......BURP!


Entered at Mon Sep 1 02:37:57 CEST 2014 from (184.145.65.238)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Good advice, Ray, but, alas, too late. I'll try to be good from now on.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 22:46:30 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Brill Bruisers - The New Pornographers

In the spirit of sharing good music, I again alert all to The New Pornographers- "Brill Bruisers" - with the talents of A.C. Newman, Dan Bejar, Neko Case, and Kathryn Calder among others. From Vancouver, all of their work has been great. This may be the best yet. They are on tour all over. Check out the site and if you get a chance to hear them, don't miss it. Seattle early next month.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 22:01:40 CEST 2014 from (67.83.171.31)

Posted by:

Ray

Thanks for the info John D... glimmer of hope w/ regards to the quality if we ever see & hear the L/H's set.

Good Day All.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 21:58:39 CEST 2014 from (67.83.171.31)

Posted by:

Ray

Easy on the Brew-Ha-Ha's, Mike Nomad... drink water and take aspirin!


Entered at Sun Aug 31 21:51:37 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'll repeat, in the Internet age, the best publicity is to reveal one track … even if not all of it. Until someone does, we can only judge on those boots. Half a track will not affect sales … unless the quality is like the boots.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 21:21:44 CEST 2014 from (67.83.171.31)

Posted by:

Ray

From what I understand some unknown recordings of the Hawks had surfaced, besides the already available bootlegs. As far as the existing bootlegs, I would hope that Jan has access to the source recordings... good to know that what ever recordings the do have cleaned up well, John.

My guess is that any live recordings of the guys from the early 60's would probably be "acceptable" quality after cleaning up... unless some shows were purposely and properly recorded? Wishful thinking on my part here. The recording quality on the bootlegs I have would be something like one star out of five. Once again I have to say that they performed so well that even if the recordings were improved to say two and a half stars after sprucing up it would be welcomed by me.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 21:10:28 CEST 2014 from (67.84.78.134)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, many various India Pale Ales have gotten my business for a while now.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 20:26:00 CEST 2014 from (24.114.71.211)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I've yet to try one of those Mike but those ads were so good ( especially the first generation of them ) that a rare example where good advertisement would get me to try something.

Fine letter, by the way Jerry.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 20:25:39 CEST 2014 from (184.145.65.238)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Thanks, John D.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 19:40:52 CEST 2014 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Mike Nomad

Yes Mike they are one in the same.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 19:13:34 CEST 2014 from (184.145.65.238)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Jeez! That's Dos Equis's. . . . I need a nap.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 19:11:43 CEST 2014 from (184.145.65.238)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

I've gotten a bit slow in my dotage, Kevin. All those Do Equis's last night probably didn't help either.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 18:50:35 CEST 2014 from (24.114.71.211)

Posted by:

Kevin J

.....and in a related story, the Toronto Star shut closed their "comments" section after a crazed Hawks fan refused to be called KevJoh on the grounds that it reminded him too much of JLo....


Entered at Sun Aug 31 18:30:30 CEST 2014 from (184.145.65.238)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

It just occurred to me that JT and the comment poster Jerten may be one and the same.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 18:27:20 CEST 2014 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Jan has told me they have cleaned up pretty well.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 18:26:01 CEST 2014 from (184.145.65.238)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

I believe the letter JT is referring to is this comment named Jerten, reacting to the Sakamoto story (in Angie's link):

The Basement Tapes are a welcome addition and I agree that this release should be taken as a documentation of the evolution of Bob Dylan after a meteoric rise to fame. Of more significance is the sudden emergence of a fine musical quintet from the bars of Toronto to Big Pink. Levon and the Hawks ( Levon Helm,Robbie Robertson, Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, Garth Hudson), rose from a backing band for Ronnie Hawkins to a tight rock/R&B group on Yonge St. and Bloor St to the stages of North America, Europe an Australia and ultimately found themselves in the basement and in the Red Room of Dylan's home. Some of the music from those earlier performances by Levon and the Hawks have been released. There are recordings of Levon and the Hawks from shows around Toronto and Ontario and some from USA that should now find their way to the public to document this evolution to The Band. I understand these are in process and now would be an ideal time to release these recordings as a testament to what Dylan saw in 1965 to identify these five as worthy of what followed.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 17:31:38 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I would be first in line to buy the Levon & The Hawks box set. I do wonder about commercial viability though as the bootleg copies are so poor. I'd love to hear a sample of what they will sound like. Just one (incomplete maybe) remastered from the original track on YouTube or a website would be a way of drumming up interest.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 14:32:23 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Write letters

Please read the letter in 'comments' for Sakomoto's Toronto Star article and write to other newspapers and magazines. I've written to NYTimes, Uncut and Toronto Star and Ray has written to Rolling Stone. Stimulating interest in the LaTH release is the goal so it may soon see the light of day.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 04:42:22 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.138)

Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks for posting the Toronto Star article. Too bad the editorial ranks have been slashed. Despite Sakamoto getting it right in his article, Sept 5 was the BT release date in the photo caption in this morning's paper and it's still the release date on this evening's website. And someone really should have done something about the illogical hash that is the 'But given ..." one-sentence paragraph.


Entered at Sun Aug 31 01:17:33 CEST 2014 from (50.100.254.255)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Of ‘The Basement Tapes’ and impossible expectations

John Sakamoto

Aug 29 2014


Entered at Sat Aug 30 20:33:16 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Excellent letter … hope they run it.


Entered at Sat Aug 30 20:15:31 CEST 2014 from (24.114.71.211)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Well done Ray...........should be refreshing for the editors to see a well thought out letter rather than a one line twitter ditter..............unrelated in a sense but I have always felt that the movie making folks should look at 64-68 for a full movie treatment and leave the 68-76 era alone.....just as the most interesting movies on The Beatles are all pre making it big.......Yonge Street/Chitlin' circuit/leaving Hawkins/Levon&The Hawks/basement Tapes and the movie ends with the lead-up to the release of MFBP and the last scene is "The Weight" playing...........I see a hit.


Entered at Sat Aug 30 19:59:18 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Superb, Ray!

Ray: Superb!!!


Entered at Sat Aug 30 19:46:09 CEST 2014 from (74.108.29.164)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Ghost of Richard Manuel

Ray , great letter

Wallsend great link to the Lonestar concert. That led to this link the ghost of Richard Manuel in bluegrass. I've not seen it before


Entered at Sat Aug 30 19:06:01 CEST 2014 from (67.83.171.31)

Posted by:

Ray

OKAY Mr. JT... this is the letter I wrote to Rolling Stone Magazine, the NY Daily News, the NY Times, Time Magazine, and the Aquarian Weekly (NJ's version of Rolling Stone.) Maybe just maybe it'll get published somewhere and it certainly can't hurt to try... you never know.

Dear Editor,

I would like to congratulate Jan Haust and Garth Hudson (of The Band) along with all others involved in compiling the upcoming release of "the Basement Tapes" by Bob Dylan and The Band. It will be nice to finally have a complete and restored version. As a few fans of The Band already know and many would not know, prior to "the Basement Tapes" project musical archivist/producer, Jan Haust, along with Garth Hudson had been working on a compilation called Levon and the Hawks "From Bacon Fat to Judgement Day." This compilation was to consist of mostly live recordings of The Band when they were known as Levon and the Hawks in the period after they had left Ronnie Hawkins and prior to their signing on with Bob Dylan. "From Bacon Fat to Judgement Day was announced as early as 2009 and appears to have been "Shelved" or put "On Hold."

Having heard live recordings of Levon and the Hawks from their Barn/Bar Storming Days I can say that the Hawks were on fire as a unit and likely one of the best performing bands in the United States at the time. Bob Dylan was quoted as telling Keith Richards that "the Hawks" were "the best band in the world" when Dylan's first Electric Tour had reached England. The live recordings of the Hawks from 1962 to 1965 that are currently available are bootleg recordings. Although the performances by the Hawks are stellar the recordings themselves are of poor quality and probably late generation recordings (copies of copies of copies of the source recordings which I gather had been recorded on early hand held recording devices.)

I feel that all the multiple generations of tape hiss and muted recording quality are worth suffering as "the Hawks" were playing for all they were worth as individuals and as a unit. Richard Manuel equals James Brown's own vocal on Please, Please, Please. Levon Helm belts out a rendition of Little Richard's Lucille that would give Little Richard himself a run for his money and his "ragged but righteous" drumming style is completely developed at this point. Rick Danko takes on Sam Cooke with an amazing conviction that few can top. Garth Hudson's keyboard work and saxophone work is, by standards of the day, far ahead of it's time and his subtle touches add volumes of texture to the music. Robbie Robertson plays his guitar ferociously and I dare say that he would have given Roy Buchanan something to think about.

"From Bacon Fat to Judgement Day" is extremely important in a historical sense as The Band is one of THE most important and influential Rock and Roll units ever to grace the stage both as their own entity and as sidemen for the likes of Bob Dylan and Ronnie Hawkins. "From Bacon Fat to Judgement Day" would bring this seldom heard period of The Band's development to the forefront and just plain make for good listening for those who appreciate The Band and/or 'fired up" yet "well honed" Rock and Roll played from the heart. I truly hope that "From Bacon Fat to Judgement Day" sees daylight sometime in the near future and I would encourage Mr. Haust to re-ignite this project as it NEEDS TO BE HEARD by any who appreciates the development of modern popular music!!!

Many thanks,


Entered at Sat Aug 30 15:48:13 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Wallsend's link

Wallsend, to me it 's new anyway. The sound quality is rather poor, Levon's voice is dearly missed, Rick and Richard sing passionately at times but not vocally adequate, Jorma Kaukonen and Jaco Pastorius do a proper job albeit not up to Robertson/Helm standards, Garth is reliable as ever, seems to handle a vibraphone (if it's him) in the final part... well, I like it... just a little bit... not for a repeated hearing...


Entered at Sat Aug 30 15:45:18 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Mr. Haust

I hope Mr. Haust can somehow accelerate the process and that he can see this project to its release. It would be a fine accompanying documentation of the rise of the quintet and show why Dylan and his people saw them as worthy to be his first backup band for a world tour. It fills the cultural void for the musically interested, letting all hear why this was the best bar band around and shows how Toronto's Levon and the Hawks spawned an era of music that impacted the international scene for years thereafter.


Entered at Sat Aug 30 15:12:14 CEST 2014 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bacon Fat

I saw Jan Haust; at a party his summer and asked again. He did not have a release date.


Entered at Sat Aug 30 14:14:59 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: The time is ripe to release "Bacon Fat..."

I have written letters in the comments section of newspapers which have published on The Basement Tapes in the past few days to try to encourage the release of the Levon and The Hawks compilation as an accompanying recording this year. I suggest others do the same and maybe the groundswell of support will encourage those in charge to realize that the time is ripe for this release.


Entered at Sat Aug 30 01:11:22 CEST 2014 from (58.104.16.209)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I don't know enough about the re-formed Band to know if the linked audio is something new or not but it may be of interest.


Entered at Fri Aug 29 19:59:29 CEST 2014 from (74.78.166.213)

Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Rockport, ME

Subject: Ain't No More Cain

Downloaded "Aint No More Cain" from ITunes. It's georgeous. Very excited about upcoming release. It's still unbelievable....


Entered at Fri Aug 29 18:29:23 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Blue River

A pretty Eric Andersen tune . . . Danko / Fjeld / Andersen, Italy, 1994.


Entered at Fri Aug 29 09:38:30 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 50 year copyright UK

While anything up to December 1962 went out of copyright, they then re-set the clock, rightly I think. It is now 75 I believe. While it means floods of pre 1962 compilations including early Motown reissues are around, the free for all is halted for a while at December 1962. Oh, what a night.


Entered at Fri Aug 29 09:21:37 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Bo Diddley

Link to the Toppermost Bo Diddley … do comment over there if inclined!


Entered at Thu Aug 28 21:26:37 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: a fine example of the Robertson style, ca '64

Though with Fred Keeler on guitar instead of Robbie.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 20:47:20 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

JT and Ray: I'm sure that a positive response to the appearance of the BT set - by the buying public, and not just the chattering classes - will hasten the appearance of "Bacon Fat to Judgment Day" / "Levon and the Hawks: From Toronto to Big Pink". The profit motive, you know.

Kevin J: Thanks for the Montreal research. When the Motley Crew first played Canada in 1955, they played at the Holiday in Toronto (and were held over for six weeks) and then the Esquire in Montreal (for six months!) The only surviving member of that original aggregation, pianist / vocalist Curley Bridges, now 80, is booked to play on September 5 at the Southside Shuffle in Port Credit. (Jackie Shane's likely still alive too, but he didn't join the group until '62.)


Entered at Thu Aug 28 20:40:53 CEST 2014 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bo

All these years later and I've never tired of hearing the Bo Diddley beat. Especially when done by him and his - wasnt it just a small group with a full-time maracas shaker?

I liked Quicksilver's Happy Trails at the time but less so R Hawkins' take; except for JRR's arrangement and licks, on Who Do You Love -


Entered at Thu Aug 28 19:54:43 CEST 2014 from (184.66.164.212)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: NYT letter re Levon and the Hawks

I have written to NYT in comments suggesting that they release (I believe I created this title: I have not seen it elsewhere) : Levon and the Hawks: From Toronto to Big Pink. The tile tells precisely what the music will entail. The NYT just now have published that letter. Hopefully, something will come of it and we will see this work sooner than expected?


Entered at Thu Aug 28 19:52:26 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Bo Diddley in Montreal

Thanks for the comment, Kevin J. From research done long ago, I know that some of the venues in the city (and beyond) advertised in the Entertainment section of the MONTREAL STAR.

For example, at the end of June 1962, Cafe Andre ("2077 Victoria near Eaton's") presented "The Drunkard", whilst Ellis Hall (across the border in Newport, Vermont) advertised a Louis Armstrong concert on 3 July 1962. And there appears to have been a Thurber Festival at La Poudriere. These are based on very poor microfilm or microfiche copies from years back.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 19:08:53 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: mo' Bo

And one more - look for the 27 Aug 9:12 pm post from Monty in London . . . .


Entered at Thu Aug 28 19:04:25 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Le bo Montréal

Ian W: here's a review . . . of sorts.
This is 2008, but maybe Mr. Bronstein is still around . . . .


Entered at Thu Aug 28 18:52:01 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

…the RR story of Bo hitting on RR’s date was – from memory – told to Little Steven on his radio show at the HTBC promo tour 2011.......What kind of made it funny was that it was the first time he had met him and being all of 17 he was quite impressed/surprised that Bo knocked on his door to hang out........he soon realized however that it was Robbie's date that BO was impressed with! Nothing else happened........apparently it would take Robbie a few more years to find his groove and play in true rock-and-roll fornicatorium style.

Bonk.......Loved that story of ear to the door stuff in 64...great memories for you and there are many around TO that loved The Hawks that also were shocked at MFBP......Ronnie Hawkins first among them.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 18:20:15 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Would the fact that much of the material on any “Levon & The Hawks” release now be more than 50 years old have anything to do with the delay…..perhaps that 50 year copyright issue is at play?

Thank you Bill…….I thought of you yesterday as I spent about an hour doing some research on the Esquire Show Bar in Montreal…………while the Esquire was well before my time, its legend was considerable…..and I have spent some time at a club of ill repute that now stands at almost the same location…..Chez Parée………….anyhow, I checked out the Montreal Gazette archives, Montreal Star, CFCF radio, Sir George and McGill newspaper archives……………….found all kinds of wonderful stories about Lili St. Cyr, Norm Silver, and a bunch of ads for jazz and blues performers….but alas no Bo………………..There were references to him playing the Esquire but later in the 60’s – not 62 and no exact dates were available………….the original Motley Crew were prominent in some of the clippings I saw!


Entered at Thu Aug 28 18:14:30 CEST 2014 from (184.66.164.212)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Eh Jeff A..

Jeff A.. - 'eh': Starting to sound like a Canadian. I'm only speculating but I don't know. Anode and cathode: two sides of the coin.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 18:07:46 CEST 2014 from (67.87.216.188)

Posted by:

Jeff A..

Positively, speculation and speculation only. Some speculators hit paydirt, some go broke. It's all speculatin...Attaching negative connotations to speculating, is, well, positively negative. But stating that to know, and what that may involve is different from speculating, that is a very different, neutral, and positive intellectual undertaking and thing. Positively. Yet apparently teabagger intellectualism has come to the GB.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 17:03:27 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: The planets have aligned: Release Levon and the Hawks now

Not to mention the sad (because of his departure) but continued interest in Levon Helm. The name 'Levon" is immediately recognizable. This is an opportune time to take advantage of all these factors. Where are the business geniuses? Do they not recognize that the planets have aligned? Release Levon and the Hawks now!


Entered at Thu Aug 28 16:49:07 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Capture the moment: Release Levon and the Hawks now

Now that Rolling Stone and NY Times have reminded the world of the excellent work in the basement, the time is ripe to release "Levon and the Hawks - From the Bars". This document of the growth of a premier band would be of prime interest to those who admire the musicianship of the quintet. If that work is near ready, now is the time to get it out - on the heels of what will be a very successful release of the BT recordings. Capturing the moment! Do it now.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 16:21:39 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Not to mention, if I'm given a choice between Bill's speculation vs Dylan telling an interviewer what he was thinking while writing songs in 1967...I'd gently suggest they are at least equally plausible. :-)


Entered at Thu Aug 28 16:07:35 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Interpretation of lyrics

It is clear to me from reading again the discussion by Bill M about lyrics that he made it crystal clear up front that this was an interpretation. Bill did not break any rules. He is right up front with his discussion. I have absolutely no problem with this. People speculate and interpret lyrics all the time. When they say so, we get to share ideas. It is an enjoyable part of the exercise when abstract lyrics are presented to us by excellent songwriters. Roll on, Bill.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 15:44:54 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

First, thanks to Kerrin and Kevin J (and NwC)for weighing in positively on my BT post, and speculation in general, though that's an expensive word to apply to simply reconnecting existing data points in a non-traditional way. Still, I'll use another expensive word and say that I don't trust the feudal approach of leaving the thinking to designated others.

Ian W: It's funny that you're trying to confirm whether Bob saw Bo at the Esquire, as I was going to go there in my Amos 'n' Bob dialogue but my smartphone crapped out and I couldn't be bother recreating the thought when it came back to life. I can't see why it wouldn't have happened, and it may have happened in Toronto too (or instead), as Bo's touring route of the day included the Edison on the Yonge Street strip.

As for Smitty's days with Billy Martin, I don't know if he stuck around long enough to have appeared on one of Martin's six or eight albums, and there are almost no musician credits on any of them. I do remember thinking that the organ on one was particularly strong, and the date would be about right ('65ish), but he wasn't the only gifted keyboardist to pass through the band. His immediate replacement was, I believe, Joe Sealy, now a jazz heavyweight up here. For the record, Smitty arrived in Canada as part of Jewel Brynner's band and jumped ship, as did drummer Mouse Johnson. Both joined Billy Martin, and both moved on to Toronto and into the Soul Searchers with Eric Mercury and Dianne Brooks.

Kerrin: It was Sid Griffin's book that went into which of three Woodstock locations the BTs were recorded - Bob's house, Big Pink and the house that Rick and Levon rented when the latter rejoined the gang.

Kevin J: Nice to know that you've found Garfield on CD. As for "Song For Canada", I agree that it's not all that hot, but if you've read John Einarson's worthy I&S biography, "Four Strong Winds", you'll know that Dylan admired and in some ways emulated Ian (if Suze Rotolo is to be believed). I sometimes wonder which records Dylan pulled from his (presumably) large collection to play for the Hawks. "Four Strong Winds", "Royal Canal" and "Spanish Is A Loving Tongue" are all on I&S's second LP - but not "Song For Canada", and I can't see it making it onto an I&S best-of comp.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 14:52:37 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: advice to budding musicians

Jimmy Thudpucker in conversation with Bob.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 12:58:14 CEST 2014 from (58.104.26.243)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Speaking of the BT, Robbie in an interview in Clash magazine, 2011

Clash: One of the songs that is most redolent of cotton fields or plantations or prison camps is the traditional ‘Ain’t No More Cane’, which you covered early before The Band’s first album. Levon said that when you recorded that song, that’s when The Band found its voice. Firstly, what are your recollections of doing that song, and secondly, is it because of the song’s nostalgic roots that The Band were able to capture it so perfectly?

Robbie: Well, I have a different recollection of that song. That comes from when we were doing ‘The Basement Tapes’, so there was new songs, and Bob Dylan knows all of this stuff about folk music that we didn’t know. So every once in a while he would pull out one of these songs that we’d never heard of or heard before, and a couple of them that stuck out to me were ‘Spanish Is The Loving Tongue’ and ‘Ain’t No More Cane On The Brazos’. And when he sang that song, ‘Ain’t No More Cane On The Brazos’, I said, ‘Wait a minute, teach that song to me. There’s something special in that.’ And then I took what he was doing and I put it in another time figure, and then The Band were able to play that like it was one of our songs, and it fit in with other stuff that we were doing seamlessly. It was like, ‘Hmm, that’s an interesting thing’. Because it’s an old river song - a very old song - and there was something about making this feel timeless: “You should have been on the river in Nineteen and Ten / They were running the women just like they were running the men”. It didn’t matter that it was 1910. It was beautiful story telling, and it was an inspiration for that time.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 12:51:29 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.136)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bonk: Coincidentally, I was in touch with Denny N from Zarathustra yesterday as there's a chance we'll get together next month.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 09:46:07 CEST 2014 from (83.249.132.27)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Bill's speculations

I found Bill's speculation refreshing. First I believed that he made fun of speculative literature criticism... or did he? Now, if Bill asks Dylan, and Dylan remembers and is in good mood and tells him how it was and then says "...and Billy, do post this to gb immediately..." the question still is: Would _Bill_ do that.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 09:15:19 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bo Diddley

Do you remember Robbie's story about playing a gig with Bo Diddley and waking up with a lady friend to see Bo at the end of the bed sharpening his shiv? Is it on a radio interview?


Entered at Thu Aug 28 09:10:26 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Bo Diddley Montreal 1962

Thanks, Bill M.

I didn't know that "Smitty" had played in the Esquire Show Bar resident band. I'll try to tuck that away in the memory cells somewhere.

I'm trying to tie down the Bob Diddley dates at the Esquire in order to check a newspaper report that Dylan went there. If I can confirm the date(s) of Bo's appearance there (preferably with something like an advert or review), then that would further my research.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 04:41:02 CEST 2014 from (67.87.216.188)

Posted by:

Jeff A

Web: My link

Subject: Tips from Leland Sklar

One of the great bass players gives advice to musicians. Worth reading.....


Entered at Thu Aug 28 03:54:04 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.128)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: I can be of no immediate help re Bo, but I'll ask around. The Esquire had at least two stages running, and you can be pretty certain that the other stage was occupied at the time by the perpetual houseband, the Billy Martin Orchestra. A lot of guys passed through that band, most notably Wiliam 'Smitty' Smith, who toured and recorded with Dylan in later years - and also appeared on David Lindley's "Rayo-X" (or whatever) LP, as did Garth. Hendrix played there with the Isleys around that time (and first met Buddy Miles, who was elsewhere in Montreal with Ruby and the Romantics). Amos Garrett's first solo LP, "Go Cat Go" has an instrumental called "Stanley Street", with its horn intro swiped from Jackie Shane's "Any Other Way". When I asked him about it, Amos, who grew up in Montreal, said that the song was named in honour of the Esquire (which was on Stanley as you noted) and the intro was a reference to the many hours he's spent propping up the bar, watching Jackie Shane fronting Frank Motley and the Motley Crew. I wonder if Dylan was ever there at the same time, helping prop up the bar after a folkie gig down the street: "Who-ee what a voice - and that pantsuit!" "Girl or guy, d'ya think?" "Guy, for sure." "Say, I'm Bob." "Bob, Amos."


Entered at Thu Aug 28 03:31:37 CEST 2014 from (67.87.216.188)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, curiousity is fine, but it's just that......speculation and curiousity....your will ....I'm quite touched by the sentiment..... an ex old lady (short lived but eventful thing) got my prized copy of Nazareth on cassette ......love hurts


Entered at Thu Aug 28 03:21:04 CEST 2014 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Location: SaltSpring Island/Cabbagetown

Subject: The Hawks.

When I first heard/watched that Yonge Street special from a couple of years ago it instantly took me back to the early sixties in Toronto and the Hawks. Robbies guitar playing and that high echo twangy thing that he had going on defines the Toronto scene. But the rest of the guys brought it all home. My absolute favorite Hawks song is Honky Tonk sung by Richard and carried home by the rest of the boys. Just incredible and defines the time for me. This was the boys doing their roots!


Entered at Thu Aug 28 02:45:07 CEST 2014 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Location: SaltSpring Island/Cabbagetown

Subject: Keven J

I was only 12 years old in 1964 so I was never a paying customer that got to see the boys back then. Besides seeing some of them at my old mans booze can on numerous occasions we would just quietly sneak up the stairs at Le Coq Dor and watch them until we would get caught by whoever and told to fuck off. All we knew was that they were the hottest band in Toronto because the older crowd told us so. Then something happened. The Beatles! We lost track of Levon and the boys and really didn't give it much thought until Big Pink which I heard in some Church basement in 1969 while listening to a group called Bo B Jackson/Zarathrustra practicing. I have to be honest here and say I was not impressed. These were not the same guys who I remembered as rocking your socks off from just a few years earlier. I could not understand what they were trying to do. Life is funny but as I matured, and with the passing of Rick Danko and my first foray into this site I really never followed the boys any more. Then all of a sudden I went hold on, these guys were totally before their time. This music is bad ass. What was I thinking. Youth I guess.


Entered at Thu Aug 28 01:35:00 CEST 2014 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John

Subject: Esquire Show Bar

Saw Joe Tex there.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 23:39:23 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Tapes and Tour

Exciting news about release of Basement Tapes and now the Fall USA tour.Hope to catch a show or more!


Entered at Wed Aug 27 22:21:03 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: HELP WANTED: Bo Diddley in Montreal in 1962

For reasons too lengthy to go into, I'm seeking anything about Bo Diddley's visit to Montreal in 1962.

As I understand it, he played the Esquire Show Bar (1224 Rue Stanley/Stanley street) in late June 1962 and/or early July 1962.

In particular, I seek the precise dates of his stand there but something like an advert or a review would be wonderful.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 21:54:46 CEST 2014 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: iPhone

I have an older model of iPhone. The iPhone 4. The other day; while at my aunts funeral I was asked to share pictures of my Grandchildren. Out came the iPhone. It said 258 pictures in Photo Stream. I started to move through them and after 90 pictures? Nothing but grey boxes with the word jpeg in the middle. I west to an Apple site and was told, "How long do you think they were supposed to stay on your phone?" Uhhhh? For a very long time. Ah the glorious Cloud....... Maybe I'll rethink iPhone 6.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 21:53:26 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Handsome Ned

…and if Bill M manages to pick himself up and dust himself off ( and I quite like his attention to/curiosity with lyrics, btw ) then perhaps he can ask a few questions of his good friends and contacts in the Toronto music scene………..in addition to the “FROM BACON FAT TO JUDGEMENT DAY” question from Ray, I am still wondering when the “Yonge Street” tv series will be released to dvd ? In all seriousness, these answers would be really nice to know……….and Bill, I just got word on Garfield French’s first two lp’s being available on cd!!!! The 10 year search is over.

PutEmUp(Friend0: Forgot to mention that while the $250,000 is going elsewhere, I have added a codicil to my will and you've got.....Nazareth's "Greatest Hits" ....just thought you might wanna know........shipping and postage is covered.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 21:29:07 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: New Journalism …

… as it was called. Truman Capote (In Cold Blood), Hunter S. Thompson and Tom Wolfe (Electric Kood-Aid Acid test) defined the style, and it is a form that has great virtues in bringing things to life, and Greil Marcus fits it. Kinda.

I have an issue with his more recent books getting very convoluted and difficult to find a thread, in spite of flashes of brilliance. I think Greil needs a powerful, non-syncophantic editor. Maybe we all do. But in his case it has become a screaming need.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 20:20:32 CEST 2014 from (67.87.216.188)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kerrin- a mild slap would be if i wrote to you that you must be very tender if you think that I administered a mild slap to Bill M. Nah, i doubt that would even qualify.... OF course, you must have missed the contextual Dylan reference at the end.. Everyone is free to speculate, but, that's all it is.... Wanna buy a silver mine?


Entered at Wed Aug 27 19:44:50 CEST 2014 from (184.66.164.212)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Speculation

I absolutely agree. If you are a writer and are speculating or supposing or opining, it is important to say so up front. That is my problem as well with journalists and people who write as if they know when they are only speculating. There is no fine line here. If he spoke to the songwriter, he should say so and frame his words in that context. If it is speculation, it should begin with something like ..." I suppose that what he meant was... etc.' Its a very slippery slope when fact drifts into speculation and supposition without confirmation.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 19:10:51 CEST 2014 from (222.158.161.172)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: JT

Not questioning Greil Marcus' knowledge or sincerity at all. Bill M got a mild slap here for speculating. Don't know why, most legitimate research is the result of speculation. Anyway, the way I read it he did qualify up front that it was just his supposition, whereas Greil Marcus tends to present his suppositions as facts. He can't know what songwriters like Dylan were thinking on a summers afternoon in 1967, but he tells us what they were thinking anyway, as though his writing gift is somehow divine. Rather like those biographies that recount conversations word-for-word,when the only people present are long gone. When you catch yourself reading something you know to be false it kind of puts you off the book.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 18:35:33 CEST 2014 from (67.83.171.31)

Posted by:

Ray

All the lads are in fine form on the recordings I have... Levon sings Lucille, Richard sings Please, Please, Please, and Rick takes on Sam Cooke. Instrumentally they are all killer.

You have to hear it to really and truly appreciate it... it's worth all the generations of tape hiss and muted recording quality... cleaned up it'd be, like you say, heaven.

Hoping for the best but not counting on it.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 18:24:43 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Ray's post

I too hold out hope that something a whole lot better than what we have heard is out there somewhere that can be transferred to allow those of us that were too young or too far away from Yonge Street to have heard The Hawks in all their tremendous glory. As a guitar player, to have heard Robbie when he really was out of this world on fire on the instrument would be great but I think the real beauty would be to hear Richard Manuel at what I understand to have been his peak………Interestingly, I think Levon and Rick might have both been at their heights as singers in 1976…………..imagine walking into a Yonge street bar or NJ club 10:00pm on a hot Saturday night 1964 and seeing “Levon &The Hawks” blast through a few hours of music…….heaven! JT and Mike Nomad and Bonk (?)are part of a small group here that can actually lay claim to that.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 17:54:47 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

“Whispering Pines: The Northern Roots of American Music... from Hank Snow to the Band” by Jason Schneider also touches some important points about the BT’s….namely how Bob Dylan had quite an impressive knowledge and well of Canadian songs at the ready and was anxious to reacquaint the boys with what he thought were their roots……Bob was big on Hank Snow of course and Ian Tyson…….though I am still amazed that the Peter Gzowski one “Song For Canada” got through…………..There was a Globe and mail article a few years back in which Sylvia Tyson revealed that she had been making more than $100,000 a year on just royalties from just 2 or 3 songs…..Makes you wonder what Ian has been pulling in for “Four Strong Winds”……..a songwriters dream to have a song that is recorded every few years for decades by major artists.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 17:49:42 CEST 2014 from (67.83.171.31)

Posted by:

Ray

Location: NJ

Subject: Basemnt Tapes - Levon & the Hawks - Jan Haust

To Jan Haust and any involved on the outside chance that he/they may come across this. I attempted to send this message through the opm66.com website but the contact/dialogue function seems to have a problem and the message would not go through.

Congrats on the upcoming release of "the Basement Tapes!" It's cool that we'll finally get a complete and restored version. I just want to mention that there are many dedicated fans of The Band that still would absolutely LOVE to hear the "Levon and the Hawks" project that Garth had been assisting you with.

Many feel that "From Bacon Fat to Judgement Day" is also very important in a historical sense. Having heard various live bootleg recordings of "Levon and the Hawks" I can say that they were altogether ON FIRE as a live band. Problem is the recordings I've heard are probably late generation copies of recordings that weren't that good to start with.

I truly hope that "From Bacon Fat to Judgement Day" sees daylight sometime in the near future. Many of us would truly appreciate it!!!

Thanks very much.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 17:04:07 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: BT locations and dates again

Kerrin: Thanks: I forgot about that book. It is on my shelves in Toronto. I'll get it out when I'm back there. As for Mr. Marcus, I have met him (briefly) after a talk and I found him to be informative and sincere. I'd be interested to know from you where you find problems with what he has (recently} written in terms what could not be known.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 16:53:34 CEST 2014 from (222.158.161.172)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: Location, location, location

JT, although I don't have access to my copy, there is a book called Million Dollar Bash by Sid Griffin that covers the BT sessions in great detail. I'm pretty sure that was where I first read that not all the recordings were done at Big Pink, early efforts were at Dylan's own house (in the "Red Room"). Someone here may have a copy handy. It was either that or Greil Marcus' Invisible Republic. Both books are probably worth grabbing, if they are available, as companions to your new box set, although I find Mr Marcus' books a bit tiresome. He has a knack for asserting things that cannot possibly be known.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 16:04:28 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Locations where and dates when 'BT' songs were recorded

Can someone clarify for me the different locations where the songs which comprise what has been called 'The Basement Tapes' were played and recorded? A number of locations have been noted. Is there enough information to compile a list of which song was played and recorded where and on what dates perhaps?


Entered at Wed Aug 27 16:04:06 CEST 2014 from (67.87.216.188)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bill, unless the lyrics give direct reference, the only way to possibly find out what a songwriter was thinking about or maybe alluding to or meaning when he wrote lyrics, is to ask him or someone reliable that he has already told. Speculating is your choice, but it's speculation. And speculation only.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 14:13:03 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Genuine Basement Tapes Vol. 6

This is what I have (is it on the site somewhere?} A collector’s tape circulates (including a DAT version, no less) though it has never been issued on CD. It is said to be the planned The Genuine Basement Tapes Vol. 6. Dylan may be singing backing and adding second guitar on some tracks, but probably not many. Robbie Robertson told Greil Marcus that none of The Band tracks on the official release were cut in the basement.

Yazoo Street Scandal #1

You Say You Love Me #1

You Say You Love Me #2

Sonny Boy With Tiny Tim

Assorted instrumental fragments

Orange Juice Blues Instrumental version

Ferdinand the Imposter (cut)

version on Basement tapes CD - sounds like basement recording

Instrumental Garth & Richard lead

Be My Baby With Tiny Tim

breaks, then instrumental

I Got You Babe With Tiny Tim

Memphis, Tennessee With Tiny Tim

Instrumental Trombone bits

Gloria in Excelsis / Banana Boat Song

Trombone bit

Ruben Remus (guitar instrumental)

Beautiful Thing #1

Beautiful Thing #2

Orange Juice Blues #1

Katie’s Been Gone

Ruben Remus

Orange Juice Blues #2

Yazoo Street Scandal #2

Instrumental second version

Instrumental Garth leads. Could be backing track.

Ferdinand The Imposter Full version. Sounds like a demo - not basement

Let Me Lose (If I Lose, Let Me Lose)

Bacon Fat (cut) Tantalizing - clearly a demo, not basement. Why is it cut so short?

Long Distance Operator

Speech + avant garde piano

Sax instrumental

Banana Boat Song #2

Poem + instrumental (cut) Presumably the rumoured Allan Ginsberg bit



Entered at Wed Aug 27 13:25:20 CEST 2014 from (24.199.71.83)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Peter mentioned earlier "the instrumental Ruben Remus, Ferdinand, Beautiful Thing, You say You Love Me, Even If It's A Pig plus the Tiny Tim stuff." Is that a comprehensive list of the Hawks-only tracks left off?

It does bug me too that the classic Band 'Basement Tapes' tracks like Bessie Smith, Katie's Been Gone, Ain't No More Cane etc will now be adrift from the revised BT release, even if they were all from later sessions and it made sense to omit them. In a perfect world (I know, I know), would love to see some kind of 'Odds and Ends' Band release that covers everything here.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 11:59:29 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

I see "will the circle be unbroken" is included. I wonder if that is the same version that is on the box set ??. A lot of the tracks also seem to be sans overdubs - more than I expected. I'm looking forward to this one.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 10:56:25 CEST 2014 from (58.104.13.200)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, maybe this is another request we could put to Sebastion the next time he drops by. They must have gone through everything to find out whether Dylan was on it or not.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 10:37:54 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

BTW, I thought the existence of Ain't No More Cane makes sense … Dylan was doing the song back on "The Gaslight Tapes."


Entered at Wed Aug 27 10:35:15 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Hawking in the basement …

The Hawks material was supposedly going to be “The Genuine Basement Tapes Vol 6” but the bootleg never appeared because of lack of demand, apparently. It runs to a CD and a bit, but while the Tiny Tim tracks have curiosity and humour value, they are pretty awful and not really part of the fit. What’s already about would go on one CD then, but judging by the new 6 CD set, there may well be, as always suggested, more than escaped. The quality of some of it awful with severe print-through but who knows what the originals are like, especially with modern technology to rescue them.

Another thought is that the “Hawks only” material may not all be “without Bob” … some of it might be “without Bob singing” as it would be hard to know whether he was present on guitar or piano.

I think the trouble with them not being included is that they may never emerge … I can’t see that they’re hugely commercially viable without Bob’s name near them.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 05:54:53 CEST 2014 from (108.88.110.210)

Posted by:

Pat B

Wallsend, google "Bob Dylan April 22 1976"


Entered at Wed Aug 27 04:19:31 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: BT - really complete would be nice

I agree with Peter V on this one. Once those who prepared this release of BT (and don't get me wrong - I'm impressed with what has been done and delighted with what we are getting) but, if it were my choice, I would have gone 'all the way' and put everything in at least one version (the 'big one' - it would have taken maybe a couple more cds) and finally have the definitive version.


Entered at Wed Aug 27 00:53:48 CEST 2014 from (58.104.13.200)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Does anybody know anything about this video from the Rolling Thunder Review? Bob sounds more like he did at the Bangladesh concert than the voice I associate with Rolling Thunder.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 23:24:39 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I don't entirely agree with the argument that "Hawks only" tracks are inappropriate for the "Basement Tapes" set. It says "Bob Dylan AND THE BAND" on the cover, and for me, The Band give Bob a fair degree of musical legitimacy and kudos ;-)


Entered at Tue Aug 26 20:17:35 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Speaking of the Basement Tapes, it occurred to me, listening to the Byrds' version of "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" the other day, that the song's meaning changes if you separate out the chorus with its distracting reference to the oncoming bride:

Clouds so swift, rain won't lift
Gate won't close, railings froze
Get your mind off wintertime
You ain't goin' nowhere

I don't care how many letters they sent
Morning came and morning went
Pick up your money and pack up your tent
You ain't goin' nowhere

Buy me a flute and a gun that shoots
Tailgate some substitutes
Strap yourself to the tree with roots
You ain't goin' nowhere

Genghis Khan, he could not keep
All his kings supplied with sleep
We'll climb that hill no matter how steep
When we come up to it

By themselves, the verses seem to be about the bonds between the Dylan and the four perma-Hawks – the weather, touring, their days together threatening European civilisation. Dylan's not talking about the others leaving, he's suggesting they're welcome to stay with him, their "tree with roots", meeting further challenges together. That line of thinking makes the song a sensible place for Dylan to wander off script (in Take 2), to assure the others that they're not "a bunch of basement noise" and that he sees them going out and making a name for themselves.

If you do the same thing with "This Wheel's On Fire" and separate the chorus from the verses, you're left with a totally non-apocalyptic relationship song (love, disappointment, betrayal) and a chorus that says, " This wheel's on fire, rolling down the road / Best notify my next of kin, this wheel shall explode". Maybe Rick was thinking of Fats Domino's hit, "I'm Going To Be A Wheel Someday"; in any case, the next of kin were duly notified – and turned up for the Big Pink cover photo.

For me, the last verse is the interesting one because the words "You'll remember that you're the one who called on them to call on me to get you your favours done" seems to echo the role of Miss Fanny in "the Weight" – "you know she's the only one, who sent me here with her regards for everyone".


Entered at Tue Aug 26 19:14:20 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Thank you Ian……..that basement sure is a gift that keeps giving….just amazing how that mystery seems like it will never be solved….imagine 20 years from now when Adam and Ari are the only two O200 posters left here and they will be wondering if Garth really did have 5-10 songs locked away somewhere on tape that no one has ever heard.

While I am all for bridges and highways being named in Levon Helm’s honour in and around Woodstock, NY….it really would be nice for the town – when the time is right ( as in when the latest owners decide to sell ) – to do something appropriate with Big Pink to honour its legend.

LINKED: Bob Dylan on TV 1975....nothing to do with the BT.......but this clip is interesting in that 1. I didn't know RR went to the penitentiary with Bob and 2. Very funny to know that while Bob may well have been big in 1975....he sure wasn't popular with convicts - pulling less than half the pop for a free show!


Entered at Tue Aug 26 19:13:24 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

Subject: Odds and Ends (alt version)

Sounds terrific...


Entered at Tue Aug 26 18:59:10 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Fantastic.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 18:39:02 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: A bit more on Bob

Just got an e-mail from Columbia marketing but it doesn't say anything new, other than indicating that tomorrow's item on bobdylan.com will be about the Fall tour.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 18:18:48 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Subject: The Basement Tapes Complete - press release

Back home, I've now seen the press release, which has a number of interesting points.

1. Yes, the set includes the songs with Dylan on lead vocals, as suggested earlier.

2. As well as the 6-CD set that is complete, there will be a 2-CD version that obviously will not be, though it's not too clear whether they will amend the title. Maybe The Basement Tapes Raw. (The Basement Tapes Incomplete, anybody?)

3. There will be a 3-LP 180 gm vinyl version of the 2-CD version.

4. There will be something about the release on the bobdylan.com website tomorrow

5. The press release confirms the rumour that Bob will be touring in the States this "fall".

6. The track list of the 2-CD version is as follows:-

BOB DYLAN- THE BASEMENT TAPES RAW: THE BOOTLEG SERIES VOL. 11 (all songs written by Bob Dylan unless otherwise noted)

CD 1

1. Open the Door, Homer (Restored version) 2. Odds and Ends (Alternate version) 3. Million Dollar Bash (Alternate version) 4. One Too Many Mornings (Unreleased) 5. I Don't Hurt Anymore (Unreleased) (written by Donald I Robertson and Walter E Rollins) 6. Ain't No More Cane (Alternate version) (Traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan) 7. Crash on the Levee (Restored version) 8. Tears of Rage (Without overdubs) (written by Bob Dylan and Richard Manuel) 9. Dress it up, Better Have it All (Unreleased) 10. I'm Not There (Previously released) 11. Johnny Todd (Unreleased) (Traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan) 12. Too Much of Nothing (Alternate version) 13. Quinn the Eskimo (Restored version) 14. Get Your Rocks Off (Unreleased) 15. Santa-Fe (Previously released) 16. Silent Weekend (Unreleased) 17. Clothes Line Saga (Restored version) 18. Please, Mrs. Henry (Restored version) 19. I Shall be Released (Restored version)

CD 2

1. You Ain't Goin' Nowhere (Alternate version) 2. Lo and Behold! (Alternate version) 3. Minstrel Boy (Previously released) 4. Tiny Montgomery (Without overdubs) 5. All You Have to do is Dream (Unreleased) 6. Goin' to Acapulco (Without overdubs) 7. 900 Miles from My Home (Unreleased) (Traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan) 8. One for the Road (Unreleased) 9. I'm Alright (Unreleased) 10. Blowin' in the Wind (Unreleased) 11. Apple Suckling Tree (Restored version) 12. Nothing Was Delivered (Restored version) 13. Folsom Prison Blues (Unreleased) (written by Johnny Cash) 14. This Wheel's on Fire (Without overdubs) (written by Bob Dylan and Rick Danko) 15. Yea! Heavy and a Bottle of Bread (Restored version) 16. Don't Ya Tell Henry (Alternate version) 17. Baby, Won't You be My Baby (Unreleased) 18. Sign on the Cross (Unreleased) 19. You Ain't Goin' Nowhere (Without overdubs)


Entered at Tue Aug 26 17:42:25 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: (Even More) Cane

Ian, that made my day. Thanks!

Had no idea this song existed with Dylan lead vocals. Astonishing.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 16:07:24 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Is he or isn't he???

Well Peter, from your writing I've tried to figure it out. Are you a Jacobite or a Whig? -:)-:)


Entered at Tue Aug 26 15:32:04 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: What could be more fun and fitting than horsing around with a pair of Bob's chestnuts. (You'll recall that three or four years was a lifetime back then, and not just the length of the gap between tours.)


Entered at Tue Aug 26 15:28:25 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Ain't No More Cane sample

Got about 10 minutes to spare before I go out.

http://www.alanhfraser.webspace.virginmedia.com/AintNoMoreCaneAlternateVersionTake2.mp3

The person who sent me this is not contactable at present, so I don't know where he got this from.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 14:54:14 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: greatest hits

Two tunes that don't seem to fit: "Blowin' in the Wind" and "It Ain't Me, Babe" (both disc 5).


Entered at Tue Aug 26 14:45:40 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend: A big thanks for posting all that stuff of late.

Ian W: An even bigger thanks for the posts about the BT set. As Peter V says, "At Last"! Very exciting and totally legitimate news. I wouldn't have expected to see Hawks-only material there, for the obvious reason you noted, but I would expect to see it rolled into "From Bacon Fat to Judgement Day", the arrival of which will surely be hastened by a rapturous response to this one. I'm pleased and relieved they've gone with multiple takes where multiple takes exist. Garth numbered the boxes, so may well have numbered the songs too.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 14:29:39 CEST 2014 from (24.199.71.83)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Two takes of Ain't No More Cane on Disc 5. Actual Basement versions? And some Dylan involvement there, as per Ian's suggestion for the criteria for inclusion?

Looks like there are tons of unfamiliar tracks... very exciting.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 14:11:25 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: The Basement Tapes Complete

I gather there are some samples on the amazon website. I haven't had the time to check these yet but, if you're interested, you should be able to track these down, I guess.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 12:01:55 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Basement Tapes Complete

I assume that the omission of any material recorded by The Band in the basement is simply because it is the Bob Dylan Bootleg Series and that anything he didn't contribute to is ineligible.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 11:17:33 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Basement Tapes

Amazon.co.uk is only listing MP3s at present, but they list two versions. A standard price set "Raw" then the full 6 volume "Complete."


Entered at Tue Aug 26 11:15:02 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: AT LAST!!!

In the words of Etta James, AT LAST indeed.

No Band "extra sessions" then. I don't mean the fake studio stuff like Bessie Smith, but the stuff claimed to be "The Genuine Basement Tapes Volume 6" a few years ago, with the instrumental Ruben Remus, Ferdinand, Beautiful Thing, You say You Love Me, Even If It's A Pig plus the Tiny Tim stuff.

Minstrel Boy? If I Were A Carpenter?

This is the release I've been waiting for since I first held Great White Wonder. Will peruse list in more detail.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 10:57:01 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: The complete Basement Tapes official release

Bootleg Series Vol 11: The Basement Tapes Complete to be released later this year:

http://www.amazon.com/Basement-Tapes-Complete-Bootleg-Deluxe/dp/B00MXILU3S/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8%20%3Chttp://www.amazon.com/Basement-Tapes-Complete-Bootleg-Deluxe/dp/B00MXILU3S/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409033615&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=bob%20dylan%20botleg%20

Here's the track listing:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Basement-Tapes-Complete-Bootleg/dp/tracks/B00MXILU3S/ref=dp_tracks_all_full#disc_1

I recall no mention of "Garth Hudson's numbering system" before.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 08:54:02 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I just re-read the 1976 part in "Chasing the Dragon" … the serious incidents are Richard damaging his old neck injury again on the speedboat ride at Lake Travis, Texas, and Richard O/D-ing before Saturday Night Live. But Cathy Smith says that for some reason they were booked into places where they had not been particularly popular, and that they had received "mixed receptions." I guess that there was enough regional sales information to allow an astute management to tailor a tour. But she doesn't mention the break or why. She does say, which I've mentioned before, that they had decided before they went out that the six week tour was to be the last one (which contrasts with Levon's account). But the description of Richard in 1976, who insisted she travel as his "nurse" as a medical necessity, suggests that no one would have wanted to drag him around anymore.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 05:39:15 CEST 2014 from (182.249.244.34)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: Ian W

Ian, I'm seriously interested in the 76 tour info, especially the review (is it in digital form?) and the change of dates for the Greek Theater. There seems to have been a 2 or 3 week break in the tour during the first half of August, not sure if there were reasons for that. Earliest August show I know of is the 20th in Santa Cruz.


Entered at Tue Aug 26 01:03:59 CEST 2014 from (58.104.19.34)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Peter, thanks for the Bellowhead links. This is a band I am not familiar with but I see that they have been around for a while. My kind of music! I see there is a Steeleye span connection.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 23:42:27 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: New York Girls

Steeleye Span version linked. It was on Commoners Crown. The ukulele was a mistake, but all in all, it's a pretty feeble version in comparison. Bass guitar and uke dominated.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 23:41:45 CEST 2014 from (58.104.19.34)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

This may be of interest to people who post here.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 22:07:19 CEST 2014 from (58.104.19.34)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Steeleye Span did a similar arrangement of New York Girls. I think that was the song that had Peter Sellers on ukelele.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 20:15:41 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: (1) The Band 1976 and (2) sea shanties

(1) The Band in 1976

I was doing a bit of digging in my files arounfd mid-1976 and came across three things that may be of interest.

(a) In late June 1976, The Band was rehearsing at Studio Instrument Rental on Santa Monica Boulevard.

(b) The dates of the shows at the Greek Theatre were put back from 13-15 August to 23-25 August 1976.

(c) There is a review of the Santa Barbara County Bowl show that kicked off the tour.

(2) Sea shanties

The acknowledged expert on sea shanties was Stan Hugill, who wrote a book on the subject (which may be the standard tome on the subject). He also contributed a series of articles on the subject to a UK folk magazine called SPIN (not to be mixed up with the more recent US magazine of the same name). The SPIN to which I refer was a small 1960s' magazine put out by the UK folk group called The Spinners, who came from Liverpool where, I believe, Stan Hugill lived. I have quite a few issues with his articles, if anyone should be interested.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 16:28:16 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bellowhead

So much of their stuff is actually from working sea shanties (as is so much English folk music). Then New York Girls sees the singer press-ganged on a ship around Cape Horn. All nautical, Norm!


Entered at Mon Aug 25 15:51:38 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Norhtwest

Subject: What's happening!!!

Just slipped in for a glance. Love the Bellow Head stuff Peter. Hoping to get the Rockin Chair launched today after major refit. Stay cool y'all.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 15:08:17 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Sorry, me again. I hope those who don't know them can see The Band connection in Bellowhead, in exploring musical heritage in an updated and highly-accomplished way. They're also very accessible. We were standing a yard away from Jon Boden eating his sandwich at Larmer Tree Festival last Year, having lined up with everyone else at the stand. On the Spiers and Boden tours they stand and chat at the CD stall with all comers. Very unassuming people.

Final link to the song they end every show with, New York Girls. A fabulous folk lyric too … listen to the words.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 15:01:35 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Let Her Run

Another Bellowhead track to brighten up a typically wet August Bank Holiday Monday. "Let Her Run" from the new album also, and recorded on stage in Glasgow at the beginning of this month.

You can see why they keep getting voted "Best British Live Act."


Entered at Mon Aug 25 14:52:34 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: About Time

A lot of the fun is the stellar cameos Richard Curtis can command (apart from Jon Boden). In the "play within a play" the lawyers are Richard Griffiths and Richard E. Grant … both uncredited. Then Tom Hughes, the star of Cemetery Junction, gets the small part of Jimmy, the nasty boyfriend. Tom Hollander is the irascible playwright. Joshua McGuire is Rory, and he has been starring as Mozart in Amadeus where we saw him last month (see link).

And of course, the incomparable Bill Nighy … also reviewed on my blog this month in "Skylight" on stage.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 13:59:35 CEST 2014 from (81.107.236.227)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham

Subject: About time and the Alabam

Loved the bellow head Peter. I wish they'd sung all the verses but it's a great track. And I loved How Long Will I Love You from 'About Time'. When we saw it I thought it was a highlight of a disappointing film but having watched the trailer play with Spiers and Sweeney I'm moved to give it another go - it looks great! I'd go anywhere for a Bill Nighy appearance.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 10:14:15 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Roll Alabama

On Bellowhead, the new album “Revive” is flat out takes-no-prisoners. they’ve gone for the raucous stuff, with a highly accented (rhythmically) version of I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight, showing an interest after the Mike Scott track with contemporary songwriters for a change. But the standout for me is Roll Alabama. That rocks along so well that my grandkids love to fill the floor with cushions and charge around dancing to it at high speed. It’s very exciting.

The LINK above goes to a recent live TV version.

It’s also one for you Civil war enthusiasts out there, the song is about the CSS Alabama, the Confederate commerce raider built secretly in Birkenhead near Liverpool. The ship roamed far and wide and apparently its controversial release after building to the CSA was encouraged by Prince Albert and Queen Victoria against the wishes of much of the country. It was sunk off Cherbourg in 1864. As with so many Bellowhead songs, interest in it traces back to folklorist Peter Bellamy.

FROM REVIVE SLEEVE NOTES (which are online, thankfully):

This is a traditional halyard (i.e. rope-hauling) shanty. It tells the true story of the sinking of the Mersey-built Confederate sloop-of-war CSS Alabama by the Yankee USS Kearsarge on June 19, 1864 just outside of Cherbourg harbour. It's perhaps not surprising that a song about a ship involved in the American Civil War became part of the English folksong tradition as with the ship having been built in secrecy in Birkenhead, many of the crew were British being enticed to join the Confederate Navy by the lure of double pay and prize money. There was presumably plenty of the latter as by the time she met her end just two years later, she'd captured or burnt 65 Union merchant ships. Incidentally the shipyard referred to in the song, ‘Jonathan Laird” became famous in the 20th century as Cammell Laird's and still operates in the present day.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 10:00:28 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: How Long Will I Love You?

While we're about the Ellie Goulding version from "BBC Children In Need" is lovely. Linked.


Entered at Mon Aug 25 09:59:11 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: How Long Will I Love You?

About Time: Last night we watched the Richard Curtis film “About Time” and in the London Underground sequence the strains of that lovely Waterboys’ song “How Will I Love You” rang out and lo and behold, the buskers were Jon Boden and Sam Sweeney of Bellowhead with Ben Coleman. A testament to the quality of London buskers? Well, in your dreams.

Anyway, I bought the track on iTunes right afterwards. LINKED ABOVE. Then I looked it up on YouTube … the Jon Boden version has had TWO MILLION HITS.

Ellie Goulding’s version of the song was also on the OST album, so I followed that to YouTube. The original video from her single has TWENTY-FIVE MILLION hits (sorry, I’m shouting here). I recalled it from the BBC Children in Need broadcast, where she had a full string section … just 11 hits short of ONE POINT FIVE million hits. I was astonished. The Waterboys original track gets just 337,000, with a couple of live versions getting over 110,000.

So let’s add the versions, and it would seem that Mike Scott’s song has had 30 million YouTube hits. To compare, the version of The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down from The Last Waltz hits 1.8 million.

Does Mike Scott earn anything at all from this? It seems terribly unjust if he doesn’t.

Anyone else seen “About Time”? Odd movie. Right up to the wedding scene we thought it was extremely good and highly entertaining, then the plot seemed to dissipate and shoot off in several directions, and it faltered and stumbled its way to the end.


Entered at Sun Aug 24 12:26:15 CEST 2014 from (83.249.138.56)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Gb prehistorical times

Conratulations Ragtime for your retairement and welcome back. You have missed a lot of shoot out in china town here during the years.

I'd like to recommmend even another decent site, Toppermost. Usually gentlemen from the British Commonwealth Of Nations post there. - And thanks for misspelling my handle correctly.


Entered at Sat Aug 23 23:21:12 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: NorthWestCoaster

The old man is a bit slow (I'm a pensioner since last Wednesday), but now I realize who you are, NorthWestCoaster... How's your dog lately, old friend...?


Entered at Sat Aug 23 19:35:26 CEST 2014 from (83.249.138.56)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Chuck Berry

Polar Prize Jury has announced that Chuck Berry is unable to come to Stockholm to Prize ceremony due to health reasons. "Krya pa dig, Chucken" like the Swedes use to say.


Entered at Sat Aug 23 00:18:18 CEST 2014 from (58.104.19.139)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Another Robbie interview - this one is more interesting than the previous one I posted.


Entered at Fri Aug 22 23:42:17 CEST 2014 from (58.104.19.139)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Instructional videos one how to play some of Robbie's more famous guitar solos.


Entered at Fri Aug 22 21:03:00 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Joan……Very nice seeing you back here…….the Native American project never did develop to the point where it got to Broadway…….I guess we can expect an explanation as to the reasons why in next year’s autobiography.

Burton Cummings/Steve Miller: Yes, that clip did have some of that beautiful Rick Danko vibe to it….didn’t it? Not sure I have ever watched anything on YouTube that made me feel better…and .not sure I could explain why…..something about how BC cared enough even at that stage of his career to go back and do a little rehearsal before the walk-on.


Entered at Fri Aug 22 19:32:04 CEST 2014 from (74.108.29.164)

Posted by:

Joan

Did Robbie's native American Broadway show ever happen?n\ Burton Cummings reminds ma a lot of Rick Danko


Entered at Fri Aug 22 17:52:46 CEST 2014 from (148.163.125.59)

Posted by:

Willam

Location: Toronto Canada
Web: My link

A fine website and an excellent tribute to the very best "Band" that Canada ever produced. I still listen to their timeless recordings quite regularly. An awesome group of guys!


Entered at Fri Aug 22 17:36:39 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Willin'

Lovely. Went straight to iTunes and bought it. I have the LP somewhere, but it's faster than finding it and transferring it!


Entered at Fri Aug 22 17:25:00 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

...and a beauty from the late great Gene Clark.....a note at "Expecting Rain" today of a documentary film on his life that is set for release.


Entered at Fri Aug 22 17:20:57 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: Linda Ronstadt and “Willin”……….She was such a beauty back in the 70’s. I had not seen this before.


Entered at Fri Aug 22 13:42:19 CEST 2014 from (58.104.19.139)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

A long interview with Robbie from 2005 that I don't recall seeing before. All well trodden ground however.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 21:51:56 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: A genuine peek behind the scenes at what it can be like to be invited on stage......and proof that even if by remote chance that you can sing as well as Burton Cummings - you will still sound off with an ipod in your ears! Love Steve Miller more after watching this.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 19:36:33 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Thanks for the Chuck / Robbie clip - very informative. Nice to see mention of Carl Hogan (?) of Louis Jordan's band, who were incredibly influential.

sadavid: Thanks for the table of contents. What are some of the songs in Greil's 10?


Entered at Thu Aug 21 17:58:17 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Greil's 10

"My editor Steve Wasserman wondered if I’d write a history of rock ’n’ roll. I thought it was a terrible idea, that it had been done to death, well and poorly, that there was a finished and accepted narrative that rendered any retelling of the story redundant and pointless. But, then I thought: What if the book was nonchronological, discontinuous, and left out almost everyone who couldn’t be left out (Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, James Brown, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Aretha Franklin, the Sex Pistols, Michael Jackson)? What if it neglected the well-known, iconic moments (the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show, Bob Dylan going electric), and centered instead on a small number of songs, each of which in its own unique way embodied rock ’n’ roll? That interested me—and the idea became this book."


Entered at Thu Aug 21 17:50:23 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck Berry & RR

LINKED: The history of rock n roll in 14 minutes.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 16:10:34 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: It should have been "Don't Think Twice" by the Don't Wonder Who.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 16:09:27 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The History 0f Rock & Roll in 10 songs

Greil Marcus is doing it in Ten songs?

Exactly the same number of songs it took The Band on Moondog Matinee, then.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 16:04:59 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Of course I got that 18 CD Four Seasons set for £28. Working through the ones I didn't have already. I'm on The 4 Seasons sing Big Hits by Bacharach, David & Dylan. The Dylan songs …

First was ANYONE ever fooled by "The Wonder Who" doing Don't Think Twice? But it really is fun, especially to hear the many vocal additions to Queen Jane Approximately, Like A Rolling Stone and Blowing In The Wind.

It's hard to see why Dylan had never thought of a chorus chanting "Take me on a trip Take me on a trip" behind Queen Jane Approximately for instance.Then there's "Janie, get to me! Janie, get to me!" … how could Bob have missed that?

Or the spoken bit "And you're sick, yes, so sick, of all of that confusion! That's the time, that's the time to come see me, Queen Jane."

Mr Tambourine Man is surely improved by "Ooh ooh ooh, Tambourine Man! One little song! Mr Tambourine Man! One little song, Tambourine Man!" on the fade out.

(But Bob Crewe's production is crisp and excellent)


Entered at Thu Aug 21 15:32:39 CEST 2014 from (158.39.165.130)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Just had to post this one... her next single will be featuring you-know-who. And we'll be monitoring the Billboard Hot 100 closely over the next weeks.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 15:32:31 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: The History of Rock 'N' Roll in 1 Song

A holidaying friend sent me this interesting article. Great choice of THE song, though I wish the writer'd made more of its most excellent line: "I stand up next to a mountain, chop it down with the edge of my hand". The ultimate in macho, so the ultimate in rock (like it or not).


Entered at Thu Aug 21 12:44:12 CEST 2014 from (86.178.165.7)

Posted by:

Frank

Location: Ireland

Subject: Gerry Anderson

Former member of Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks Gerry Anderson passed away today..UK based forum members will be familiar with Gerry Anderson via his work on BBC Radio.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 12:29:55 CEST 2014 from (86.178.165.7)

Posted by:

Frank

Location: Ireland

Subject: Gerry Anderson

Former member of Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks Gerry Anderson passed away today...UK based members may have been familiar with Gerry Anderson via his work on BBC Radio


Entered at Thu Aug 21 03:37:44 CEST 2014 from (24.114.59.216)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: L Cohen

I liked the production as well, just the lyric that didn't immediatley take hold......I've moved locations since first hearing this and am unable to hear more right now......very much looking forward to hearing the whole LP.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 02:57:35 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Loved the new Leonard Cohen with the bass so far forward and the touches of horns so far back. Wonderful.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 02:07:22 CEST 2014 from (24.114.59.216)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you Ian for that clip of the new L. Cohen......not sure how I feel about that song yet.....I guess a bit more time will tell.

JT: Understood.


Entered at Thu Aug 21 02:06:24 CEST 2014 from (58.104.20.124)

Posted by:

Wallsend

With regard to the new basement tapes project, I have no objection to what people are trying to do I am just not particularly a fan of the people doing it. If Van Morrison was doing it I would be interested, if Robbie was doing it I would be really interested, if Van and Robbie were doing it together I would be super interested.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 23:40:21 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: New Leonard Cohen


Entered at Wed Aug 20 21:25:37 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: sadavid's Link

I had heard of this proposal a while back and while it seemed outrageous…….a second thought revealed that radio stations have been messing with original recordings forever….3 minute versions of longer songs were the norm…….and guitar was often the victim of the cuts made for radio…………the best part of the Guns N' Roses song “Sweet Child O' Mine” was the Slash guitar and the radio version had almost all of it removed………so this is nothing new – really.

Spell Casters......The FM ones go 2-3 paragraphs but the GB friendly folks really have been trying to get all that intrigue and wife/husband stealing into just one paragraph.....and yet they continue to find it tough going here....pity.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 21:05:23 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: longer playlists

Do you find you don't have the time to listen to all the music you want? -- Watch for this exciting new format!!!


Entered at Wed Aug 20 18:52:16 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: the Turtle Pond

Subject: "New Basement Tapes"

Today I didn't start reading the GB from the place where I left off a couple of days ago... so, as I scrolled down from the top I saw "New Basement Tapes" and got overly excited needlessly. My first thought upon hearing it was, "I didn't know that Freddie & the Dreamers were guests at Big Pink". Then I finished the GB from where I left off and realized what it truly was. I'm unimpressed. I'd actually prefer if it were Freddie and company.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 18:43:25 CEST 2014 from (184.66.164.212)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Same page

No problem. Just making sure the naysayers all over know that there is another opinion.. We're on the same page here. My view: This is welcome but of course, keep the Dylan current coming!! Not a criticism aimed at anyone. Just a comment on creativity raised by some of the stuff I've been reading elsewhere.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 18:05:40 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Hold on…….I am all for trying “something new or different”…….I have spent 10 years here writing that Bob Dylan should abandon the tired old songs and focus on only his “new and different” material live…..Glad he has finally chosen this path ( save for the odd concert in Poland where someone must have convinced him that playing “Rainy Day Women” would send Wojtek and pals in the 5th row into a frenzy )……….my problem with this Basement Tapes project is the title……………I detest this dancing on and disturbing the spirit of a sacred little basement in a house called Big Pink……simple as that.

Also, if this GB is to rise again as Jon predicted some weeks back, I sure hope the Spell Casters are along for the ride. Just my opinion but last night’s installment might have been the most entertaining of them all.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 17:17:02 CEST 2014 from (83.249.132.204)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Nothing To It

Jon Lyness posted about "echoing the early Band in the guitar sound and harmonies". I like it a lot, too. I found Tamla Motown style bass very pleasant to listen, as always. The first 1/10 second of this song is a classic way to do a kickstart. - It was not like Rick Danko's playing which was like a former guitar player's. Pleasant to listen, too.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 16:07:25 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Basement Tapes

An official release of the entire Basement Tapes would be most welcome.This "New" stuff-ugh.Not my taste,although I'll be interested to read the lyrics.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 16:03:20 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Creativity (again) threatened

It is again an example of -Don't try anything new or different. Don't besmirch what is with something new . Do NOT create! What was was. Leave it alone.

I admire this gang for (presumably) responding to Dylan and his camp with melodies to accompany found lyrics. Of course, it may not appeal to the ears and sensibilities of some, but I presume that for some, accepting something 'different' is unacceptable. Criticisms range from - no talent Mumford (not true) to -cashing in (when was that ever a crime?). I still recall "What is this s**t?)" from someone who should have known better. Take a deep breath and let those who have the ability to create, create. Good on T-Bone and the gang for taking this on, whatever the outcome. And my advice.. if you don't like it for its merits to your ears, do better with the lyrics. This may be a new approach? The lyricist writes and puts the lyrics out for other artists to put music to it. I'd be into seeing what transpires from that. In fact, it has been done sporadically in the past with poems put to music. Maybe Leonard could write some new poems and ask Dan Bejar or Beck to put music to them. That would be of great interest to those who welcome novel approaches.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 15:28:17 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Man, tough crowd! I'm surprised at the pushback on the New Basement Tapes. I thought Nothing To It was excellent, and it's been playing in my head since yesterday (I prefer listening without the animated video, as it takes me further away from the BT feel, but to each their own). A strong catchy arrangement, very much echoing the early Band in the guitar sound and harmonies, and Dylan's lyrics are teasingly abstract a la the classic BTs we know and love. This track certainly has me interested to hear more. (And great news about the new Leonard Cohen release; I'll eagerly await that as well.)


Entered at Wed Aug 20 14:29:22 CEST 2014 from (158.39.165.130)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: test

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Entered at Wed Aug 20 06:13:34 CEST 2014 from (58.104.21.149)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I cannot say I have any real interest in this Basement Tapes project but it was interesting to see the use of Bob's hand written lyrics in the video clip. I came across this online collection of Dylan interviews the other day. I am sure this is well known to hard core Dylan fans but I hadn't seen it before.


Entered at Wed Aug 20 03:08:57 CEST 2014 from (24.114.59.216)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Almost Like The Blues

While I really couldn't care less about this silly "Basement Tapes" release, I am looking forward to the new Leonard Cohen - see LINK.

Must say though that the Basement Tapes scam may well be the future of rock n roll..........2050 and onward as sharp young record exec's breathlessly announce the finding of "lost Wings" tapes and assemble a toothless Jack White and a balding Slash to add lyrics and music to a series of new Beatles releases....May God have taken us all by then.


Entered at Tue Aug 19 23:29:22 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: "Nothing To It" lyrics

The writing in the "Nothing To It" video looks very like Dylan's own handwriting.


Entered at Tue Aug 19 23:15:28 CEST 2014 from (58.104.21.149)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

The New Basement Tapes promo video.


Entered at Tue Aug 19 22:21:59 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

Subject: The New Basement Tapes -- Nov 11 release


Entered at Tue Aug 19 16:25:37 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Jersey Boys

Peter V: We saw the stage play 'The Jersey Boys' twice: once in San Francisco and once in Toronto. Excellent both times. I was surprised by some of the negative reviews of the Eastwood film. Based on your review and comments, we will definitely see the film. Thank you.

I was always a big fan of 4 Seasons and in fact it was my first LP purchase (Sherry etc). When I heard the Dylan interpretations a few years later, I began to understand something about the music business. Those were relatively early times for Dylan covers.


Entered at Tue Aug 19 15:24:12 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: rock efectivo

Rod and Wallsend: A case in point is my Auckland-bought Rhinoceros LP, which came with no gatefold. If it's any consolation, the Mexicans did the same thing - or at least they did with Big Brown (aka Rock efectivo - see link).


Entered at Tue Aug 19 11:07:24 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Four Seasons box set

BTW, just noticed the Four seasons Box Set … 18 albums in card sleeves for £28 on amazon. That's £1.55 an album. OK, a lot are original 60s length, but it's still a bargain.


Entered at Tue Aug 19 10:27:16 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Sixpence a year? Luxury! We used to have to pay to be allowed to go into work. We raised the money by selling our kidneys.

After posting my "Jersey Boys" review last night, I woke up and remembered that Timothy White had a long article on Frankie Valli in "Rock Lives." He interviewed him in 1976 and quotes explain why Bob Crewe was portrayed as he was in the film. Yes, there was a "feud" of Robertson-Helm or Lennon-McCartney proportions over credits. I've added the quotes to the review which is now about 30% longer for those interested. The 1976 interview also gave more info all round which I added.


Entered at Tue Aug 19 10:14:09 CEST 2014 from (58.104.15.226)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Subject: New Zealand Pressings

Rod, I am sure they were printed locally because we never used to get the nice gatefold sleeves. When my pay finally increased from threepence to sixpence a year I actually used to import the records just to get the nice sleeves.


Entered at Tue Aug 19 06:44:35 CEST 2014 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

From the 78 tour.


Entered at Tue Aug 19 01:35:21 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Web: My link

Subject: The Four Seasons / Jersey Boys

My review of the Clint Eastwood-directed movie version is now up on my blog. I thought it was great!


Entered at Mon Aug 18 14:49:04 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ragtime: Unless Jeremiah was a bullfrog, I see nothing wrong in Chris or whoever wanting to give it to him. We have to get with the times.


Entered at Mon Aug 18 11:55:36 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: New Zealand pressings

In the Southampton area of the UK quite a lot of New Zealand, Australian and South African 45s turn up in the secondhand vinyl stores. Apparently, the crews of passenger ships used to buy a lot, and Southampton was the home port. South African ones are most common as they were apparently worth bringing back in quantity to resell at UK prices. Anyway, I did notice that New Zealand 45 sleeves list a large number of distributed labels from different British and American conglomerates which is a sign of pressing in smaller quantities … you get them from The Netherlands and Belgium too.


Entered at Mon Aug 18 05:26:53 CEST 2014 from (108.83.177.245)

Posted by:

Cory Anthony

Location: Hialeah

Subject: Subscribe

Thank You!!


Entered at Sun Aug 17 06:31:23 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Wallesnd, I remember struggling to find the Band on vinyl here as well in the late 70's. I wonder if it was because they were mostly pressed locally back in those days. I don't have many Band vinyls left now. Most seemed to have at least had the cover printed in NZ. My copy of Stage Fright is from the UK though.


Entered at Sat Aug 16 18:06:40 CEST 2014 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Actually, just Chris Robinson.


Entered at Sat Aug 16 18:05:02 CEST 2014 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Hey Ragtime.

I should have linked the whole boot. It's the brothers from Black Crowes doing a club show under another name.


Entered at Sat Aug 16 14:48:22 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Hey Pat

I listened to your link, but who are these people... it only says Jeremiah Surrender... lol...

Jeremiah who?

You can change your name... ;)


Entered at Fri Aug 15 23:55:01 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Here's something you don't hear live very often.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 23:12:36 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.159)

Posted by:

Bill M

Mike C: Or when you're fixing a hole where the rain gets in ...


Entered at Fri Aug 15 19:41:06 CEST 2014 from (74.176.226.233)

Posted by:

Mike C

Bill M - You are correct, sir; that was quite a haul! Jack Bruce was the wild card there but he holds his own pretty well in that august company. And since "Never Tell Your Mother She's Out Of Tune" does feature L'Angelo Misterioso guesting on guitar, there is a dash of Beatle-ishness there. I've never considered his album in terms of Band-ishness, but your take on it inspires me want to give it a fresh listen. Maybe as I'm fixing a screen door and/or hitting my thumb with a hammer...


Entered at Fri Aug 15 14:51:33 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Hats off to RtO for posting about the great Spirit at Toppermost the other day. Years ago - 10?, 15? - someone here asked who the best American band was (this was after the Canadians wouldn't allow our guys to be claimed as an American band), and Spirit was my nominee.

While at Toppermost I was very happily surprised to see that Bob Carpenter had been honoured with a post - by someone named Kasper Nijsen. (See link.)

Rockin' Chair: And farther down the list at Toppermost is the Poppy Family from your part of the world. Trashed at the time, but worthy for a number of reasons.

Wallsend: Even in '81, when I spent six months in NZ, LPs were very expensive - nor was there all that much to choose from. The only ones I bought, a believe, were from a store I found in Auckland on my last day or so in the country - and of those the only ones I recall were an excellent comp of US Columbia stuff called "Aquarius Rising" (which I've hung onto because it contains an absolutely brilliant cut by the Rising Sons (i.e., Ry Cooder and Taj Mahal in '65), "Candy Man") and an Australian pressing of the third LP by Rhinoceros (whose lead singer, John Finley, was offered the spot as Levon and the Hawks spot shortly after they left Hawkins). For me, the best Love album is "Out Here" on Blue Thumb.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 14:46:01 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Sex & drugs & rock'n roll

Rumours said that our guys were not on drugs like all other rock heroes and that groupies had a day off when The Band came playing... this bunch of hard working musicians was far too busy rehearsing, improving their performances and studying their musical roots to be involved with banalities like drugs, alcohol or women... but when the truth came out they appeared to be just like anybody else... it's fair to say that four of the five members were users and that two of them were heavily addicted... which doesn't make them less great as musicians or less lovable as persons... it was a bit of a disappointment yeah... but I wouldn't say I should never "forgive them"... who are we to judge...?


Entered at Fri Aug 15 13:21:29 CEST 2014 from (58.104.17.1)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I agree about the drugs. I am so glad I didn't go down that path. When you see what it does to people, it just makes you wonder what the attraction is.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 12:34:58 CEST 2014 from (83.249.130.183)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Fan history

I heard 'The Weight' in the public service radio in Grandma's kitchen. She cooked heavenly Russian pastries. The connotations were just perfect from the beginning. In our school boy band I had the chance to play solo harmonica in two numbers: 'The Weight' and John Mayall's 'Room To Move'. You know: "chack-ta-ta-chack-ta-ta-chack-ta-ta-chack-ta-ta-chaack-ta-ta-chack-ta-ta-taaaaaa / chack-ta-ta-chack-ta-ta-chack-ta-ta-chack-ta-ta-chaack ta-ta-chack-ta-ta-taaaaaa / Ooooh-weeeee- Room To Move!!!!" I wasn't that good so they let me do it for just to be friendly, I guess.

I listened to avant-garde jazz ( Ornette Coleman, Don Cherry, John Coltrane, Albert Ayler...well, Calvin must know this all) and The Band was a relief in their down-to-the-earth approach. I was not into the drugs (I haven't even tasted to this very date) so I believed that The Band was free from the drugs in their rural in non-complexity. Unfortunately, I can never forgive some of the memebers for their behaviour. As a son of the parents who killed themselves in drug and alcohol abuse when I was young I can understand the reasons, maybe. But forgive, never!


Entered at Fri Aug 15 11:29:46 CEST 2014 from (83.249.130.183)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Subject: "...one of those grumpy old people... by WALLSEND / Toronto Film Festival

There is this new bitterly humorious movie with the name "The Grump" which makes fun of old Finnish men who are posting in forums...not that I know any. I read the book but haven't seen the film because the premiere will take place in _TORONTO_ - of all places (Toronto International Film Festival, cathegory: Contemporary World Movies). The Torontonian gb menopause community should go and see this film and _BOO_, for solidaricy to old men posting in forums!

Especially to PETER M: The DVD would be a perfect birthday present to Mr. Dener :-)


Entered at Fri Aug 15 11:27:38 CEST 2014 from (58.104.17.1)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Well, if we are really going to get in to it... I grew up in New Zealand and the first job I got I earned $20 a week and an LP was $5. It was really hard to get a lot of music in NZ. The first Band album I bought was Stage Fright because you just could't get the first two, at least not when I was trying to buy them. With regard to Love, I later bought Da Capo and Forever changes and few others. I much preferred them over the Doors. I read that Electra dumped Love because they didn't want to travel and put their efforts in to supporting the Doors. The song Signed DC is an incredibly powerful anti-drug song.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 09:44:47 CEST 2014 from (31.53.169.124)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Rag Mamma Rag

For a Brit, Peter's right. Rag Mamma Rag took me into the Band, but not collecting their albums. It was singles I bought because of fashion as well as price. (I regret giving them away because they all had covers, Peter.) I then bought the Brown album around 1972 and by 1976 had only four albums. I saw many bands from 1971 to 1975. I had bought about 200 albums on cassette and vinyl.

I started to play albums again about 1990 and the work of certain bands and solo artists seemed ageless, including the Band. So I began to collect the Band albums I never had and replaced the ones I had with CD copies. There are other bands/artists I collect, including Beatles, Byrds, Stones, Tom Waits, Dylan, Lenoard Cohen, John Martyn, AWB, Paul Simon

This site has been a catalyst for me in that I made an effort to become complete on certain artists and I have been introduced to new music for example the excellent Blackie and the Rodeo Kings.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 09:19:20 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Life in the 60s

Wallsend, lacking disposable income! Luxury. We were impecunious where I grew up.

Impecunious! We dreamed of being impecunious. Luxury! we were poor.

Poor! I’d have given my right arm to be poor … etc

I know what you mean. At university, I was on a full grant of £360 a year. It covered 36 weeks of term. You worked Christmas delivering post and through the summer, but Easter was the cruellest holiday … three weeks with no chance of getting work, so the grant had to cover it too. Accommodation was £5 a week … new rooms with sinks, two showers, a bath, two WCs and a kitchen for nine people on a floor, a single room … constant hot water, central heating. A cleaner on week days, weekly change of bed linen. A free Laundromat in the basement. It was way more luxurious than either home or any hotel I’d stayed in. Thank you, Harold Wilson! My kids’ generation moan that we had free education, while they have loans. It is unjust, but in 1967 only 4% were at university so it was affordable and they assumed we’d pay it back in taxes by earning more … in 1967 tax went up to 85% if you were a brain surgeon or a Beatle. With ten times as many students it’s hard to add up.

Anyway, that meant a disposable income of around £5 a week to cover food, books, transport, clothes, in days when an LP cost about £1.70. There wasn’t much money for records (I’ve compensated for the lack since the day I started work).

We looked forward every year to W.H. Smith’s January sale when lots of cutout new LPs were 30p. Not with notched sleeves or drilled holes either. CBS (Columbia) Elektra and Pye seemed to have disposed of the largest quantities. I remember getting The Notorious Byrd Brothers, Dr Byrds and Mr Hyde and Miles Davis’ Nefertiti in one purchase … all CBS, and for me too buying three LPs really was extreme luxury. East-West, The Electric Flag, Filles de Kilimanjaro … others I immediately remember from W.H. Smith’s sale.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 07:26:13 CEST 2014 from (174.1.247.160)

Posted by:

Lisa

Subject: Love

Wallsend, I have Love's Da Capo - an earlier album with a different lineup in the band.

The thing about that record is that it has the most amazing sound. It is so crisp and clear and immediate, as though they're right in the room with you.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 06:43:10 CEST 2014 from (74.58.171.179)

Posted by:

Nathan

Location: Canada
Web: My link

Mus friend caught Don Felder at City Winery last night. Said the show was stellar. 90 minutes of Eagle songs and that Felder sounds eerily like Henley,& his 5 piece band was killer. The person reporting is a singer, and a stickler type of guy. So, i kinda respect his judgment. I had intended to go, get tickets at the door, but stuff interfered. the show wasn't sold out...


Entered at Fri Aug 15 06:11:53 CEST 2014 from (73.47.239.0)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: collections/ beginnings

Peter V: you're ok dude. I know plenty of people here in New England w/ way more serious cases of collectivitus. And for some amazing perspective, check out Monte Reel's article in the NY Times magazine from Sunday, 8.10.14. His subject, Zero Freitas of Sao Paolo, Brazil... now that's got to be an illness. As an old work colleague would say "oh, my friggin' word, Myrtle".

As for particular tunes, others having mentioned some; I think it was TNTDODD and King Harvest. I remember carrying around snippets of lyrics and poems and stuff in high school (thought I was poetic, I guess); you could never do better than "just don't judge me by my shoes". That always seemed to capture the tenor of those times in 1969. The way they played and the way Levon sang, you could just hear "the wind blows 'cross the water" w/out ever seeing a deep South rice paddie in real life.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 05:11:21 CEST 2014 from (58.104.17.1)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I don't want to sound like one of those grumpy old people who say 'Everything was better in my day' (because it really wasn't) but you could make some great purchases back in the day. I didn't have much disposable income back then so I really used to value everything I bought. I think three records was the most I ever bought at one go. One was a double album of the best of Paul Butterfield and I cannot remember what the other two were. I love the internet but downloading things isn't quite the same cultural experience as going to the record shop was. I recall my dad offered to buy a record for me for a birthday or something and I chose Love's Out Here. I got it home and I really didn't like it all that much and I thought I had really wasted a purchase. I mentioned this story to my brother a while back and he said he still has that album and he loves it and still plays it. Arthur Lee was a very talented guy but I think the music is strange even by hippie standards.


Entered at Fri Aug 15 03:59:45 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.136)

Posted by:

Bill M

Mike C: What a great haul that day! I've registered my views on the relationship between the Band and "Abbey Road" any number of times, but I've only noted the Bandishness of "Theme From An Imaginary Western" once or twice. Ditto the suggestion that a good way into "Songs for a Tailor" (for those having difficulty) is to listen to "Life Is A Carnival" immediately beforehand. The Jack Bruce is a desert-island disk for me - along with Big Brown and "America Eats Its Young".


Entered at Fri Aug 15 02:20:11 CEST 2014 from (74.176.226.233)

Posted by:

Mike C

Subject: Band Beginnings

Thanks to Lisa for the topic & to Jan for the platform. Apologies in advance to all for I'm sure to be repeating myself here.

It's late summer 1968 & I'm hearing three songs on the radio which I really like. Thought they were by three separate bands because the songs were each so different from each other ("The Weight", "I Shall Be Released", & "Chest Fever"). Soon of course I learn that they are all by the same band & get myself a copy of MFBP. Knocked me out then, as it still does today. Not only that but the record was so mysterious. Their names were listed & there was a photo, but no way to put names to the faces. Or to figure out who sang (seemed to me to be a lot of different voices) or who played what. More than one songwriter, plus collaborations with Zimmy. Well I packed away my new mysterious record with the rest of my albums & toted them to the Univ of S Carolina, where I spent my freshman year trying to make Big Pink converts of anyone who came into my dorm room, much to the chagrin of my roommate.

Sophomore year in the fall of '69 & I'm hanging out at a record store located in an old house just off campus. There were several new releases in the window, one of which was "The Band". I added "Abbey Road" & "Songs For A Tailor" to it, gave the guy behind the counter $10 for the three & even got enough change back to buy myself a couple of brews at The Opus on my way back to the dorm. A finer vinyl purchase day I've never had.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 22:17:42 CEST 2014 from (199.233.178.254)

Posted by:

Ignatius

Location: Pac NW US

Subject: Starting Up with The Band

I had been a big Johnny Horton fan as a little boy. I loved any song that referred to history, so I suppose the Night They Drove Old Dixie Down must have caught my attention. I do not remember for sure.

I do remember that in the attic bedroom where me and three brothers slept, we had a record player set up. Among the stalwarts was the The Brown Album, which we would play and play. We peered into the pictures to try to get into the life depicted, guys with instruments all over the house, playing together in a brotherly fashion.

A few years later, I am playing piano on TNTDODD, Up on Cripple Creek and Jemimah Surrender with a hippie band called the Ogden Edsl. But then came a lapse.

Until the Last Waltz I had forgotten about these guys. My mind was officially blown again. I learned It Makes No Difference on the piano, have been playing it regularly since.

At some point it dawned on me that this five person collective ensemble was, in so many ways, my ideal of how a band should operate. I am lucky to be playing in a couple of groups that agree with that - no front person, everybody plays and most sing, trading lead parts, harmonizing in a rough and ready but highly musical way, looking for soulful songs that mean something to us.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 18:19:58 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rag Mama Rag

Rag Mama Rag was The Band's biggest UK hit (#16), and therefore the most common secondhand single. A few years ago, BBC Radio Two had a "premium list" of 1000 classic singles, and Rag Mama Rag was the only Band track on it. It is still the Band song most likely to be heard on British radio.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 17:50:37 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: addendum

I meant to add that my first Band record was the "Rag Mama Rag" / "Unfaithful Servant" 45, which I bought in a three-for-a-quarter bin at the Sayvette store in Ajax, where we went to do the weekly shopping. This would have been later in '70, by which time Capitol had given up on the thing, deleted it from the catalogue and dumped its unsold copies. Nice to know it sold better in Australia.

Speaking of which ... A couple days ago a friend reported seeing and being very impressed by a multi-generational local band, the Sinners Choirs, "Sort of a mix of the Band and Little Feat" (see link). The guy on the left, bassist Terry Wilkins, washed ashore here in '71 as part of Flying Circus, a pop-rock band from Sydney Australia. I think the others had all returned to Oz by the end of the decade, but Terry's still here. Along the way he's backed at least Levon and Rick (and Richard Bell, John Hammond, Colin Linden, Amos Garrett et numerous al).


Entered at Thu Aug 14 16:32:53 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: a different sort of record collection

1000-plus "White Albums" at a "shop" in Liverpool.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 16:16:52 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Sapphires

This DVD was in the HMV "£2.99 with any other purchase" bit by the cash register and I picked it up, as it looked like an Australian version of "Dreamgirls" AND it starred Chris O'Dowd. We really enjoyed the film, which is like a cross between Dreamgirls, The Commitments and The Blues Brothers. But the soul soundtrack is exceptionally well done, so much so that I bought the album too, for Jessica Mauboy's lead vocals on classic soul covers.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 16:05:13 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

How did I get to the Band? I don't know, really. Certainly it was a gradual thing. I grew up in the country; while Toronto was very close geographically, it was socially and emotionally on the other side of the moon for me at the time. Although I did start listening to top-40 radio towards then end of '68, I had no idea of what was going on, and it wasn't until very early '70, when my father started to bring home the CHUM chart each week, that I even started to put things together. By then I would have heard the Band on the soundtrack of "Easy Rider", which I'd seen playing in the highschool gym one morning. (That was the year that all highschools elected 'hip' student councils that were able to cow principals into putting up with this kind of thing.) But "The Weight" certainly failed to register for me at the time. "Up On Cripple Creek" I did like, though, and was happy to watch it progress into the top 10. And I likely gleaned some of the their story from the weekly "After Four" teen section of the "Toronto Telegram", which I was by now devouring. And then there was Joan Baez's TNTDODD, which seemed wonderful at the time. And then there was the "Time" cover story, which blew the doors open. Canadians were used to the idea of seeing one of us in a successful group (Mamas and Papas, Lovin' Spoonful, Moby Grape, Rascals, Mountain), but four fifths of a group that mattered - now that deserved serious attention!


Entered at Thu Aug 14 14:55:46 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Blind Faith and Jimi Hendrix

While we are remembering what we did back then, let me tell you that I saw and heard Blind Faith in the summer of 1969 at Varsity Stadium at UofT in an open air concert on a very sunny day. The 'Clapton is God' stickers were everywhere. My friend, Howie, from camp had heard that a new supergroup had formed and he got the tickets. We got into my car and drove the 150 km from the north Muskoka area to Toronto to hear the remnants of Cream play with Winwood and Gretch. We did not know the songs in the main yet because we didn't yet have the album. But, let me tell you, it was something!

And while I'm at it, I went to New York City for the first time in my life when I finished grade 13 during the summer of 1967. My friend and I tried to get tickets to Hair but it was sold out and we couldn't afford scalper's prices. What we did get were tickets to hear the Jimi Hendrix experience play Madison Square Garden just after the first album was released and just as Axis, Bold As Love was coming out.

Both shows were memorable and though short, they were stunning. And the performers virtually never spoke to the audience. They just played.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 14:45:07 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: . . . but he looks like a Crowe . . . .

Here's one you don't see covered too often -- "Jemima Surrender" by the Black Crowes.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 08:10:02 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the pond, in Drexel Hill, Pa.

Subject: How did I become a The Band fan?

In high school I had a friend who had taped ALL of Music From Big Pink, in mono, on a cassette player, off the radio (WMMR). He was intrigued. "Who is the lead singer?", "How about on THAT song?". I listened and was hit by the bus. Had to get more. I made a bad copy, putting my tape recorder's mike in front of his tape recorder's speaker. And I wore that sucker out. Later captured The Brown Album similarly and then went to see Easy Rider. Another friend bought the soundtrack album and we were horrified to hear that The Weight was done by a competent band called "Smith", NOT by The Band. Interestingly, Craig Harris credited Smith as "The Smith" in his recent book that remains hungry for a proofreader/editor. This soundtrack led me to a pursuit of "The Real Thang" that has carried me through the next 45+ years. In 1972, on my way to a college class, a guy showed me the Rock of Ages LP he'd just bought. We ended up in the University of Tulsa library, cutting class and listening to this magnificent audio document on headphones in listening cubicles. That sealed it... Band fan for life. During the next 40 years I've enjoyed all the permutations of The Band I could get. Saw the TonyMarts reunion show in the early 80's. Caught shows with the Cates, Max Weinberg Blondie Chaplin, Rick and Levon duo shows (among the best musical moments in my life). Garth, Rick & Richard gigs, Barnburners shows, and on and on. The best (maybe) was at a Howlin' for Hubert show I took my 14 year old son and his two cousins to at BB King's in NYC in 2004 (?), when Levon sang a verse in "Gonna Take You Downtown" after Little Sammy and David Johansen had done most of the heavy lifting, I cheered and screamed for joy. And then there were the times that Danko was good to me 100 miles from home. Yeah, these cats were The Real Deal. With at least 4 Rambles per year and quite a few LHB road shows under my belt, I feel like the luckiest dog on the planet. And Butch made a few miracles happen too.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 03:45:34 CEST 2014 from (203.10.111.131)

Posted by:

Doug

Location: Sydney

Subject: becoming a band fan

My first taste was when Rag Mama Rag was a minor top 40 song in Australia. As a 16 year old, something in it caught my ear, and a few months later I had saved enough money from part time jobs to buy an LP - a big event. So I fronted up to the Tyrrell's shop in Newcastle intending to buy the brown album, but by then there was a new lp called Stage Fright, so being at an age when newer is automatically better I bought that instead. As soon as I heard the first track, Strawberry Wine, I was hooked. It had the same voice and a similar feel to Rag Mama Rag. To this day, I'm puzzled whenever I see something that says Stage Fright is a lesser album, it remains a masterpiece to my ears.


Entered at Thu Aug 14 01:50:00 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Coming upon The Band

This is my memory (maybe a touch faulty given the passage of time) but first a bit of background.

When I was in my teens, we never had a record player at home. Music was mainly on the radio and live and I didn't get a record player of my own until I was well out of my teens. I did, however, read the music press.

In 1967, there was mention of these "secret" recordings that Dylan had made. That year and in 1968, a few singles came out featuring these songs (Manfred Mann's "Mighty Quinn", Julie Driscoll's "Wheel's On Fire" and so on). There were more press reports of the "secret" recordings. Then ROLLING STONE ran an article about MUSIC FROM BIG PINK, which sounded intriguing, even if George Harrison complained that EMI UK had ruined the cover art.

Around this time, in Colletts record shop, I bought the issue of SING OUT! magazine that had the Bob Dylan interview and one of songs he chose was "The Weight" ("My good friend Jaime Robbie Robertson wrote this song", he said). That issue also had a review of the album by Happy Traum.

I went to the old HMV record shop on Oxford Street where you could play records in listening booths before buying or not. I played the album there and bought it - the UK mono version.

A few years later, on a trip abroad, I bought the stereo gatefold edition. Back home, I sold the UK mono LP (keeping its sleeve, strangely). This was, of course, in the days when record collecting and the value of records were things that didn't even cross my mind.

And just to illustrate the changing perspective of time, I cut up my copy of SING OUT! magazine to retain just the Dylan interview (now sadly the worse for wear in my files, though I have since been given two copies of the said item - both in good condition).


Entered at Wed Aug 13 23:32:55 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The collection was kind of OK until about 6 years ago. I was a 1982 CD adopter, which saved a lot of space, though now the vinyl would be more desirable. There was a lot of it but it was manageable. Then I started this mega work on British record labels and on record collecting and it has now run out of control. Piles of 45s everywhere and then because I got to know a lot about values, I started adding more LPs when I saw good stuff at bargain prices. Now I have to find a way of sensibly storing it. Fortunately, I started cataloguing about 1986 on my first Mac and it's easy to add stuff as you get it, but then I have to find where I've put it. I keep promising i'll sell it once the book is done, or at least sell most of it.

A funny thing is Dylan & The Band are under-valued (monetarily). It's odd because it doesn't appear in great quantities either, and I reckon people who have it hang on to it. You can still pick up Dylan 45s at very low prices … last week I found a mint Jokerman and a mint Lay Lady Lay at £1 each. I already had both, but something tells me they will be worth a lot more than that one day and I rescued both for about the price of an espresso. Band singles in excellent condition rarely cross the £2 to £3 level. The only expensive Band album is Big Pink, and the only LP by them in Rare Record Guide, which starts listing LPs over £12 mint. Big Pink mono is valued at £50, stereo at £35 and then only if it has the black rainbow label … my very early copy is light green. However, I don't think I've ever seen a copy at more than £30 and that was a US import with gatefold sleeve … British copies didn't have the gatefold with "Next of Kin." I think a shop would put it out at £12 to £20 at most.

The trouble is, Mrs V collects children's books at a similar rate.


Entered at Wed Aug 13 22:12:27 CEST 2014 from (58.104.15.82)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I found The Band when I saw Easy Rider. Even though that movie has aged terribly I still think the cinematography is stunning and The Weight scene in particular. Not only did I discover the Band through that scene but also the power of creativity. It is a well I constantly go back to. When I attended my second lecture at university which was about Wittfogel's theory of hydraulic despotism, I realised that kind of creativity could be applied to academic work. This has kept me entertained and employed for the last forty years. Thank you guys!


Entered at Wed Aug 13 20:56:20 CEST 2014 from (184.66.163.29)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Soul/R&B

Peter V: Though I am not a major fan of R8B and soul, I have a space in my musical interest brain reserved for Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings, Aretha, Sam and Dave early material (which I heard on CKEY with Big G. Walters (right, Bill M?) and Little Stevie Wonder ( I bought Fingertips Pt 1 and 2 single). I was always impressed with Smokie Robinson and the Miracles and The 4 Tops. Sharon Jones put on perhaps the best overall SHOW I have see in years this past April 2014 in Victoria when we got up to dance with her on stage. We met with her after and she is a queen of elegance. I also love many of the Rolling Stones interpretations of R&B material


Entered at Wed Aug 13 20:08:13 CEST 2014 from (68.70.61.190)

Posted by:

carmen

Location: PA

Subject: How I Found the Band

I always knew The Weight, TNTDODD, and Up On Cripple Creek from airplay on Philadelphia radio stations like WMMR. They also Played the Shape Im In as an intro to a daily show. I really came to know the BAND, however, via RR. I read about his new Solo CD getting released in Rolling Stone. I was in college and purchased this as one of my very first CD's. TLW was next and then I bought everything (Twice and in some cases three times now)


Entered at Wed Aug 13 19:53:21 CEST 2014 from (174.1.247.160)

Posted by:

Lisa

Have to say I regret not finding The Band earlier in life, but when I did, I was like Al - just had to get everybody to listen. My kids got the heaviest dose, naturally. So in all fairness I had to listen to their music too. That's how our music evenings I wrote about began, and believe me, I listened to a lot of Depeche Mode and Eurasure (got quite fond of Blue Savannah Song). But fair is fair, and no eye-rolling was allowed.

And I still have quite a few of my original records. I never got rid of them, though I lost quite a few when I moved out and left some at my parents' house for storage. One of my little brothers going through a mercenary stage SOLD all my records (including a pressing of the Beatles' press conference in Vancouver in 1964 that I won in a contest) and Beatle magazines. The magazines I bought from this dear little old man who ran a tiny, hole-in-the-wall magazine shop right behind my bus stop. He saved all the Beatle magazines for me, including the British ones, so I had quite a stack.

Peter, where on earth do you keep all your collection? You must have an enormous amount by now. And a very understanding spouse?


Entered at Wed Aug 13 11:57:54 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Band Fan History

Actually I am a classical music buff... and a reviewer of classical concerts, operas and recordings for two Dutch music magazines and a website. But when I was a schoolkid in the 60s I listened occassionally to rock & pop & soul music as well without giving it much attention. At one evening a radio station revealed some new mysterious Bob Dylan recordings, apparently made in a basement... and at once I was struck by these unique, absolutely fabulous sounds. And when I enrolled into university shortly afterwards there was this boy who sold an elpee set Little White Wonder to a select group of fellow students. He wanted to be approached by a password as if we were in the resistance movement, and then he handed his merchandise over looking very solemnly... ;)

Anyway, when Music from Big Pink came out I was one of the first buyers... and then I met this girl who shared my passion for The Band. Within weeks we were living together in her very small student appartment. Now she is my wife for more than 40 years... And I am proud to tell you that our dear daughters, both in their 30s now, play The Band's music all their lives...


Entered at Wed Aug 13 10:54:09 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Soul Box

My soul box of 45s … it included:

It’s Growing – The Temptations

Tramp – Otis Redding & Carla Thomas

Mercy Mercy – Don Covay

Private Number – William Bell & Judy Clay

Uptight- Stevie Wonder

Reach Out I’ll Be There – The Four Tops

Ain’t Too Proud To Beg – The Temptations

Ain’t It Peculiar – Marvin Gaye

Rescue Me – Fontella Bass

Ride Your Pony- Lee Dorsey

Let’s Go Baby (Where The Action Is) / Barefootin’ – Robert Parker

Um Um Um Um Um Um – Major Lance

Hold On, I’m Comin’ – Sam & Dave

Respect – Otis Redding

Respect- Aretha Franklin

Keep On Running – Spencer Davis Group

Mockingbird – Inezz and Charlie Fox

How Sweet It Is – Marvin Gaye

Going To A Go Go – The Miracles

Come See About Me – The Supremes

I intended to list ten, but it just grew into twenty. All essential. The one white one deserves its place.


Entered at Wed Aug 13 10:41:30 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Band Fan History

On Lisa’s fandom history project …

The Band didn’t become an “obsession” until 1970 in spite of my early listening. I went to Norwich from Hull in 1969 and met a whole new set of people. I took just one LP portable box with me and a box of soul 45s. I am still just as heavily into soul 45s and these were the best of the best. The LPs were influenced by my friends from home and Hull. I was the only one of them at this point who was not a professional musician. So I had Chicago Transit Authority, Chicago II, Blood Sweat and Tears II, Traffic, Blossom Toes, Sgt Pepper, Abbey Road, Bookends plus a few select blues LPs (Sonny Boy Williamson, Mose Allison).

So. January 1970. If I had had to save three LPs from the proverbial fire, they would have been Bookends, Sgt Pepper and Abbey Road. Though I owned Big Pink.

I fell in with a new crowd. One guy had the biggest record collection I had ever seen … hundreds of LPs, very rare then. We spent most evenings listening to his albums … he had a large flat too. We compared sizes … hippies do it with record collections which is much healthier than jocks comparing sizes in the showers in my opinion. He had Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Steve Miller, Mothers of Invention, Country Joe & The Fish, The Doors, with The Byrds in pride of place. His favourite band.

I still remember proudly placing “If Only For A Moment” by Blossom Toes on the turntable, right after Crown of Creation. I have just looked in Rare Record Guide and fallen off my chair. Blossom Toes LP is rated at £600 mint! But that evening it sounded like a heap of shite next to Steve Miller Band and JA.

The only point of shared reference was The Band. So whenever asked ‘You choose the next one’ The Band went on. Admiration and liking deepened into an obsession. By March 1970, the three albums to save in a fire were Big Pink, The Band and Bookends. I still really like Bookends.

And it was in those evenings that I learned to loathe The Doors. As I have often said, I like Hello I Love You. I like Light My Fire. That was about it until last year when I bought Soul Kitchen on Record Store Day. I like that too.


Entered at Wed Aug 13 10:24:16 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Al, it is being reported that the Premier League have suggested Liverpool will henceforth be listed as "Southampton A" and the existing Southampton will become Southampton B (though Southampton Under-18s has been put forward). Still as they say down in Southampton, all those guys moving north will miss the excitement of living in a busy port city: - )

NANCY KERR … though I saw her with The Full English last year, I haven't followed her career. One to look for. I have tickets for Seth Lakeman and also for Bellowhead in the autumn… both in Southampton coincidentally.


Entered at Wed Aug 13 09:08:51 CEST 2014 from (222.158.182.36)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: Pat B

Of course, anyone attempting to be neutral or objective is clearly "pro Robbie".


Entered at Wed Aug 13 05:10:13 CEST 2014 from (73.47.239.0)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: finding the Band

I agree, good idea Lisa. I have to admit to not being a daily reader, and only an occasional contributor. Nor would I ever pretend to be that knowledgeable about any music, rock or otherwise. I'll leave that to Mr. Viney and others. As you imply that you did, I spent a looong time reading everything that Jan has in the library... a lot of good stuff. And curiously, I enjoy Greil Marcus's comments and writing, although he certainly doesn't come off as the most humble soul when I listen to him (TLW and BBC docu etc.).

I related once my story, while it's not earth-shattering, here's the basics. As a newly-arrived high school student in what is now labeled "flyover country", southern Illinois and Mississippi River/Missouri, I found the brown album in our prep school bookstore... fall 1969. At least that's how I recall it. It could have been later that school year. I didn't particular feel out of my element there, but frankly the jacket photos were enough for me. They just seemed to connect w/ my sensibilities and then the music turned out to be all-of-a-piece, I would say now in retrospect. Perhaps it was a reaction to moving, because although I had lived the prevoius 5 years in So Cal, I never was definitely "of that place". Other than getting tough-enough feet to walk anywhere barefoot, de riguer in those California days, a simpler, slower pace was more my speed; no one better touched that nerve than The Band.

While a friend thoroughly indoctrinated me in the blues a couple years on (I remember listening to Sonny Boy Williamson's "Bummer Road" in his dorm room, for instance) and another pal, in college, opened the door wide for the Allman Bros and all of southern rock, I never lost my affinity for our guys. I recall taking RofA into a music prof I had for an intro course and playing him Stage Fright and Life is a Carnival. It was a sort of after hours sharing. Although my Allman Bros friend never did "get it" or share my positon, this prof loved the complexity and musicality of The Band's offerings. It may be heretical in some circles, but I maintain that Dylan learned as much about playing music from our guys as they did from him about writing songs/lyrics. Not that he would admit that, if it's true.

I have to say I'm glad for the GB and this website. It's one place anyway where Garth, Levon, Richard, Robbie and Rick are not under-appreciated.


Entered at Wed Aug 13 00:15:45 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Barney Hoskyns is pro-RR? That's funny.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 23:42:39 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!!!!!!!!!

Son -of-a -bitch when a man gets so depressed he has to do that......brings back memories of Richard.

Kevin.....the truth is, in the last six weeks I've been home about three days. I got home about noon today and have to leave again tomorrow morning for another week. It has been very busy......crazy actually.

I've got the ship yard in Campbell River doing a lot of refit on the Rockin Chair. Hopefully after the 20th, Susan and I can get out for a cruise and relax. I might have to go down to that little hippie island where Bonk and all the old musicians hang out and raise a little hell, raise a little hell, raise a little hell. Maybe I can find JT and get him drunk on red wine.

So I haven't been around the condo enough to enjoy it. Wish Lars was here. It's been so hot there are people by the hundreds floating down the river here on tubes and just about anything that floats. I've been so eager to get out my pellet gun and do some target practise on those tubes. Susan put her foot down and won't allow it..........oh well.....


Entered at Tue Aug 12 23:06:07 CEST 2014 from (174.1.247.160)

Posted by:

Lisa

Thanks Bill! ; D ; D ; D !!!

Re Irish radio review - well, at least she admitted her biases. Sounded like there were a few inaccuracies there as well as in the book.

Has anyone read it? I had it on order, but when I read PSB's post I cancelled the order.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 22:45:24 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Subject: Re: Garth

From Garth's Facebook page, August 6:
"We have returned from the weekend's Birthday Sessions at Clubhouse in Rhinebeck. It won't be long before it's finished, packaged and ready for release. Thank you for the many birthday messages and kind words about my three broken ribs, They have begun to heal without complication. Sorry we must reschedule my trip to Banff. We will update when a date is known."

Very glad to hear he is healing. But I'm lost... what are the sessions that he is referring to? A new release coming out?


Entered at Tue Aug 12 22:39:06 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Bill, LOL @ Louie Bunwell. Well done. :)


Entered at Tue Aug 12 22:05:12 CEST 2014 from (99.97.3.117)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Kevin, I didn't exactly change my posting name, i retired it. Like old fucker athletes, it comes out of retirement for special occasions or necessity.

I hope you can adjust to this better than my old man did...I actually changed my last name legally in the late 70s.... it pissed off my father to the point that about 35 years later, still pissed off, he cut me out of a inheritance he received - gave my half brother and half sister, both younger than I, over a quarter a million bucks a piece........me, he was using my supposed and theoretical equal share of the money to beat me up, so after dealing with it for a good while, and not liking it, i told him to shove the money and said a few other things..........Woulda been nice to have, but, i wasn't taking the beating required...

Intro to The Band- radio, the Weight was on some of the great NYC radio stations. I was 10 or so,,, then Dixie, both The Band and Joan's versions....... my cousin and his friends were 5, 6, 7 years older,all musicians on their way up,and i had some good influences.... I was 12 or 13 when i bought The Band, Deja Vu, and Deliverin, by Poco, at Alexander's Department store , in the record department...IT was great back then, to be able to walk in, get 3, or 5 or 6 GREAT lps, yet leave wishing that you had the dough to buy another 27 or 47 you wanted to have,,,,


Entered at Tue Aug 12 21:43:14 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: a writing session at Abbey Road

“Good morning Sunshine.”

“Ah, morning John. Things well with you?”

“OK mate. Got some snippets on the go for Mr Martin – ‘Polythene Pam’, ‘Mr Mustard’ … You?”

“Just two so far, but they’re hand-in-glove. You know that song “The Weight” by the Band?”

“Not those Woodstock wankers again, Paul! Christ, someone saw you singing that blood song on American TV.”

“No, no, no! Just the “Take a load off Fannie line” at the end of ‘Hey Jude’.

“So, what are you up to now with that song now? What was the title again, ‘The Ballad Of Easy Rider’?”

“No, same movie but that was the Byrds. The Band one is ‘The Weight’, and now it’s really bugging me."

“Always was.”

“No, now it’s different. I saw something where the guy who wrote it was talking about some bloody American filmmaker, Louie Bunwell, whose thing was the impossibility of sainthood. And here’s this poor bastard coming into town to do a favour for a friend and he gets caught up in all this endless shit. And then it fucking well ends with no good karma coming back at him.”

“Christ, sounds like me and Yoko – go here to get shat on, go there to get shat on. You know it ain’t easy; the way things are going they're going to crucify me.”

“Too right mate. But you’re going to get something back, but this guy in the song – well, I’m going to write a little add-on that gives him some love in return.”

“Nice Paul, very nice. Keep carrying that weight boy – and I’ll get to work on a new one that’s forming in me mind.”



Entered at Tue Aug 12 18:53:51 CEST 2014 from (174.1.247.160)

Posted by:

Lisa

Bill, I had never made the connection between Carry That Weight and The Weight before. It sounds entirely plausible, especially given the contact between the two groups when The Band visited England. And Al, you are too much!! Thanks for those heart-rending memories.

JT, I'm totally awed by your stories of hearing the guys early in their careers. You are so lucky! Your story reminded me of a 1968 story of my own: that year I was a second-year student at Vancouver Art School (now Emily Carr School of Art), and often stayed into the evening to work on paintings, as the classrooms were left open for anyone who wanted to work after hours.

There was a record player in our studio, and on this particular day I had brought Blonde on Blonde with me. I was the only person in the room, and put on Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands, and started to paint. When it came to the end I put it on again, and continued painting dreamily away to that lovely dirge ... the third time round, an agonized "Nooooooo" wailed out from the next room over. I quickly took it off - one man's music, etc. etc.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 17:59:07 CEST 2014 from (92.18.190.121)

Posted by:

Solomon

Location: UK
Web: My link

Subject: Interview

Irish radio book review: "The Band: Pioneers of Americana Music" by Craig Harris. I thought Robin Williams was at his best in the film One Hour Photo. I couldn't listen to more than five minutes of his manic comedy stand-up routine.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 17:13:09 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Nancy Kerr

Peter V: Tell us more about Nancy Kerr, who has had an illustrious career and now has her own album 'Sweet Visitor'. Lots of collaboration and now emerges on her own.

There is an entire musical universe in the UK that requires investigation.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 17:04:00 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Neil Diamond shines more as time goes by

As for Neil Diamond - a tunesmith in the pop vernacular. In the tradition of the Brill Bldg and others. And he could sing and you knew it was him. I've always been an admirer and recently have been listening again.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 16:27:51 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Another Side of Big Pink

Another memory: 1968. I was a second year student at UofT and I was in the UofT book store. It was a time when you didn't get daily servings in the media of where people were or what they were doing. You didn't get much about where Dylan was or what his cohorts might be up to. Woodstock, NY and its environs was not on the horizon for most of us. There was an emerging record bin at the book store. My usual source for LPs was Sam The Record Man on Yonge St. Flipping through the small group of records at the UofT book store I came upon a record without any name on it but with an unusual painting on it. I had no idea! I asked. Someone who worked in the area said it was a new album by a group that used to work in the Toronto area in the bars. I didn't know much about the newly emerging music magazines and certainly know nothing about The Band. So, I purchased something I had never heard about or even heard. I took it home and listened and it was like something I had never encountered. There are no words to explain how an early 20something responded to the emotional outpourings on that album. It was 'otherworldly'. I was hooked. When I realized that these were the same boys who played the Concord only 4 years earlier, I had my first understanding of what creativity meant. I already knew Dylan but this was the start for me of a journey that has enriched every part of me. And as good as The Brown Album was and as good as everything that came after was, the impact of 'Big Pink' is profound and unmatched in my emotional consciousness. UofT - where music lives in many places.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 15:32:25 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Electric Soil (correction)

Whoops. That was 'Early Jan. 1974' but you all knew that. Anyway, MLG was a great venue for hockey but it did not have great acoustics. But Dylan and the Band created an energy that overcame that problem and it was a surprisingly potent concert and cemented a sound that was repeated at TLW. I miss that sound and it haunts me in a good wayl


Entered at Tue Aug 12 15:28:14 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: You don't get rid of me that easily Kev lad....

...though I am a mite preoccupied elsewhere as it's the nail biting time of pre-season ie the bit where it hasn't begun and we're sweating on signing the final piece of our 2014/15 jigsaw - one who somewhat bizzarely doesn't hail from PV's neck of the woods.

:-0)

As it is I can't resist Lisa's invitation to churn out my original splurge on discovering the Guest Book some 14 years ago

THE BAND AND SPLENDID ISOLATION

All this reflection on what we all know was simply the ultimate of all groups is wheedling out little snatches from the memory banks of just how totally insular was my devotion to them yet just how hard I really did try to spread the word.

Incidentally, it might help with these reminiscences if our more - shall we say - 'fortunate' North American friends could appreciate the background to any singular Band devotion within the UK back in the sixties. Just how desolate it really was in those early days. I mean us Brits could not simply hop in Bruce Springsteen's Cadillac and whizz up to the Catskills at the drop of a hat to watch Garth preening his mighty organ, you know. No sirree!

THE WATERLOO CONNECTION

As far as I'm aware only one national British disc jockey - the inimitable Kenny Everett who hailed from my own Waterloo home [that's the Liverpool one not the Band connected Ontario one] - ever featured the Band on a prime time British radio show.

Other than that - Zilch.

"Rockin Chair" and "When you Awake" were the two songs played on Kenny's show one momentous Saturday morning as I lay soaking in the bath, entirely unawares and unprepared, scarcely a Stone That I Throw distance from the pub juke box that had first introduced me to the unforgettable clipped acoustic intro to The Weight some 12 months earlier.

'Christ on a bike… The Band on the fuckin radio…!!!!'

I was overcome with exhilaration of the occasion. I sat bolt upright splashing about like some demented frog on heat. Arms flailing. Completely bonkers. Water everywhere. Certainly the last I remember of my faithful rubber duck was it flying south no doubt searching out calmer waters.

Old Virginny perhaps?

SEVENTEEN AND IN LOVE?

I recall my first really serious relationship. The sheer physical and emotional intensity. All that fevered moaning and groaning. No not what you're thinking. Merely her reaction as I'd take Big Pink out of its sleeve for the umpteenth time that particular night and and stick it on the dansette. Ooo er. She was into Tom Jones at the time and could never really handle my unbridled enthusiasm for what she termed hillbillies.

Seem to remember we were once kissing and petting so passionately as the strains of Richard crooning - "...life seems so little to give" - wafted across from the dansette. Needless to say I broke off to ponder what Richard meant. She went home. Maybe, on reflection that's what Richard did mean.

THE VICTORIA HOTEL, WATERLOO

In the ale house 1969. 'The Vic' where I'd heard the boys for the very first time. Juke box bust. No music. Groans from the patrons. Bright idea. Dash home and get my trusty dansette replete with both albums. All of a quivver as the anticipation of capturing an entire pubful of potential Band converts zings thro my system. YES!! Too good to be true. I'm like some manic Jesuit encountering a tribe of mad headhunters. Missionary zeal I think they term it. Mission Impossible more like.

Ever wondered what's the quickest way to empty a Liverpool pub at nine o’clock at night?

Stick on 'Tears of Rage' at full blast and, man, just watch those headhunters disappear like they've just spotted 'Predator'.

"Er, we'll, er see yer tomorra night then Al lad"

"But fellas, what about Kingdom Come?" n"Another friggin dirge like that last one and you'll be entering it tonight pal!"

Maybe I should have started with something a little lighter. Lonesome Suzie, perhaps?

ME AND KATHERINE ROSS

That same year. Dudley College in Brum. Doing me Dustin Hoffman Graduate bit with the nearest I was ever to get to Katherine Ross. The lovely Marian from Consett County Durham.

She had ditched me by letter that day and come hell or high water I was going to woo her back. Train to Dudley. Stopped her in her tracks outside the College. Into the Student's Union. It was going well. She was warming to my heartfelt pleas; seeking reassurances -

"...and you promise - no more of that blessed Band stuff?"

Sharp intake of breath - fingers, toes and small intestines crossed - "Yeah, I promise". The cock crows thrice [Thank God I never knew about Daniel and his Harp by then otherwise I might have disappeared without trace like a whippoorwill]

Just then, the juke box blares out. "When I get offa this mountAIN...".

Well, I'm up like a shot, arent I? Across to the juke box to embrace the guy who's just put it on. It was a beautiful communion. I mean, what else can a fella do in such circumstances? I guess desperation and isolation make you that way. So that was it. Bye bye Miss Katherine Ross. Up Cripple Creek without a paddle!

"I'll try and intercept you at the church, Marian. Promise!"


Entered at Tue Aug 12 11:29:07 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

My introduction to The Band is sort of embarrassing. I went to see TLW (well my brothers took me as I was quite young) because Neil Diamond was in it. One of the bros bought the album shortly after and I never looked back. I must admit that when I first heard the Brown album I found it completely different to TLW and it took a bit (but not a lot) of adjustment to get into it.

And I still have a soft spot for early Neil Diamond.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 07:59:06 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Robin Williams … RIP. Thoughts of Mork and Mindy of course, but also the lovely “Rabbit Ears” spoken voice CD of Pecos Bill with Ry Cooder. As well as so many films. Wasn’t he alleged to be one of those present at John Belushi’s final “party”?

There is still stuff to write about … but it means “music liked by people who like The Band” which is wide.

Yes, Side Two of Abbey Road is as good as any album gets. Side one has Come Together, Something as a one-two punch, but then it has Maxwell’s Silver Hammer, Octopussy’s Garden, Oh, Darling, and I Want You. Not their finest hour. I only finally got to love “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)” when it was used for the musical film “Across The Universe” … a hugely under-rated must-see film. But Side Two of Abbey Road is a sheer joy throughout.

It’s funny looking at heartfelt inscriptions from 45 years ago and looking at the handwriting. Sigh. Thank goodness it wasn’t that increasingly rare red and white one-off inner sleeve of an original Sergeant Pepper, might be the Record Collectors’ thought. The inscription on my copy of A Man And A Woman OST (same year, birthday) is so fulsome and intimate that I’d be embarrassed if any family member were to take it off the shelf and pull the sleeve out. Actually, a fine OST too. I haven't seen the film in years … I vaguely look for it when a shop (like The British Film Institute) has a large French section. I wonder if the awful American version with overdubbed voices has been confined to the bins years ago?

Another repeat post. In the film, the woman leaves at the station. Jean Louis Trintingant shrugs and mutters "Les femmes …" in the original French version. Then a year later they released the over-dubbed American version. His lips mouth "Les femmes" but a Jerry Lewis soundalike says "Oh, boy! I guess you'll never understand women if you live to be a hundred!!!" At least in the anecdote I've been telling for 45 years that's what he says. An actual copy would prove my memory either heavily embroidered (I suspect I've "improved" it) or more surprisingly, accurate.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 05:21:27 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.142)

Posted by:

Bill M

Lisa: I'm at least as good as Peter V when it comes to repeating myself. And since we're talking "Abbey Road", I will once again trot out my observation that "Carry That Weight" / "And In The End" can be interpreted as Paul 'Sunny Jim' McCartney's response to the dour message and morality expressed in the lyrics of "The Weight" and in Robbie Robertson's explanation of the song. CTW is simply an abstract of "The Weight" - "Boy, you're going to carry that weight a long time", repeated. But Paul couldn't accept the notion that that was the end of it -- no thank you, no pay-off for trying to do a good deed, so he tacked on a corrective "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make".


Entered at Tue Aug 12 03:59:11 CEST 2014 from (174.1.247.160)

Posted by:

Lisa

Poor Robin - this is so, so sad. News like this always hits you in the gut. All these people who battle so hard against their demons, only to lose in the end ...

Thanks to everyone who is writing about their discovery of The Band. I'm really enjoying all of them. And for people like Ragtime, Bones, JT et all - I'm familiar with you all through the archives. And I know you're right about everything having been hashed over many times, but I'm hoping there's still something left to write about.

Peter, that was so funny about your Christmas present. In your defence though, Abbey Road is a terrific album, one of the best. I just was reacquainted with it when I discovered The Fab Faux's recording of Side 2 of Abbey Road on YouTube (with Jimmy Vivino and Will Lee, among others). Well worth a listen if you haven't already found it.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 02:58:25 CEST 2014 from (108.217.93.87)

Posted by:

Glenn T

Subject: How I found The Band

So long Robin Williams....thanks for all the laughs.

one afternoon my brother came to my room and urged me to listen to a new album he'd bought. He played the title track "Stage Fright." I was not impressed. But something about the drumming kept coming to me, so that evening (when my brother was away), I went into his room and played the track again. Loved it. Thank you Levon.!

I didn't follow through on this new discovery at that time; didn't start purchasing LPs for a few years, but was completely captivated the afternoon he played the Rock of Ages album straight through as we worked to remove a tree stump in the backyard. That was it; I was hooked!

Little by little I bought all the records. I finally saw them live at the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles in 1976, a few months before their Last Waltz farewell. I saw Rick after his first solo album was released, and The Band again during the Jericho tour.

So grateful for all the great music these guys gave to us...and to Jan for hosting this site where we can share our love for their musical talent, and music in general.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 01:04:03 CEST 2014 from (50.144.1.7)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: Pa

Subject: Robin Williams

Just heard Robin Williams found dead of apparent suicide


Entered at Tue Aug 12 01:02:33 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 49

Lisa, great idea. Great story too. I’ve told lots of this, but repeating is my forte.

I heard about Dylan 66 and these Canadians who had played so badly behind him, but of course this was 1966 and we had no bootlegs. Then in 1968 I was in W.H. Smith in Bournemouth looking through the new release albums, actually having money because it was summer and I was working. And I picked up this one with no title and a crude amateurish painting and thought “What is this?” and I turned it over and someone said the painting was by Bob Dylan. “Can’t sing?” I’d always disagreed, but I thought, “Well he surely can’t paint.”

Then I thought, “Is this the Canadian bar band I read about?” and I didn’t buy it then, but I was intrigued because not only were there three new Dylan songs, but two were CO-WRITTEN. Hmm, I thought. He must like these guys. So when I got back to university, The Weight was on the jukebox, and it became my daily habit to go in and read the free papers every morning in the common room, and I always put the same “3 Plays for One Shilling: on the box: The Weight, White Rabbit, I Shall Be Released. You had to put them in that order, or the machine would screw up if you chose both sides of one record without something in between. Did it every day, and I bought the album.

Then Christmas 1969, freezing cold, outside HMV in Oxford Street. Three LPs filled the display: Abbey Road, Let It Bleed, The Band. My girlfriend squeezed my arm and said “Choose your Christmas present!” That was a true Sophie’s Choice moment. I agonized. I picked them up and studied them. And … my Abbey Road still has “Happy Christmas! XXX” on the inner sleeve. I had to wait a few weeks to get the brown album, I think.

From “Stage Fright” on they were all day of release. The 45s too.

Kevin – great post too. The fun should be there! We got a lot of people censoring anything that was not arse licking basically. So people clammed up.

Toppermost and my blog are distractions … but because they’re Wordpress powered there’s always a delay for “Approved” to be pressed. Kills conversation.


Entered at Tue Aug 12 00:58:35 CEST 2014 from (174.237.37.247)

Posted by:

Bones

Like Ragtime, I used to post all the time in the last century, but I finally got very frustrated by some of the negative comments so I stopped. I still drop in and read almost all of the posts....I just don't comment. Thanks to Jan as always!


Entered at Tue Aug 12 00:21:39 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Lisa's comment

Hey Lisa,

In the late 20th century I used to be a regular contributor to these pages and added my two cents to any discussion that I came across. But after some years I came to the conclusion that everything about The Band had been said. So I drifted away from the GB, but of course I kept lurking at the What's New? page and listening to their immortal music. And from time to time I dropped by in the GB (since it was a place where I had felt at home), saying hello to the old friends, who never responded BTW because most of them had left too...

So when you tell us now it's rather quiet in the GB, well, I think that most people decided that there's no need to invent the wheel once more...

But still I am glad that this GB still exists, thanks to Jan the Man of course... but even Uncle Hangover doesn't pop up here anymore... ;)


Entered at Tue Aug 12 00:15:57 CEST 2014 from (184.66.164.212)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Levon and the Hawks provide Electric soil for Dylan

Lisa: Too good to be true! What a good idea.

My story is known to all but I'll put it in here for those who missed it. 1963 and Levon and the Hawks are tearing up Yonge St (having done their internship with Rompin' Ronnie) and putting in some time on Bloor St at the Concord Tavern, my dad's place. So they rehearse Saturday afternoons and the kids come to eat french fries and drink coca cola. I'm a kid with a rock and roll habit from the juke boxes of Jackson's Point and the guitar of Chuck Berry and the sounds of Philadelphia. My dad tells me about these kids who he admires for their poise and professionalism and they are Levon and the Hawks. So I go down on a Saturday and I go back and I go back and I go back...etc. And the next thing I hear is they are going to play with Dylan at Massey Hall so I get tickets for Nov. 15 1965 and they play Stones that I Throw and then back up Dylan. Next time I see them is early Jan 1964 Maple Leaf Gardens in one of the greatest shows I have ever seen. That's my story and I'm luck to be able to have done it and to tell it.


Entered at Mon Aug 11 23:08:24 CEST 2014 from (174.1.247.160)

Posted by:

Lisa

All jokes aside, it does seem that things here hit the horse latitudes around the time Butch Dener posted. After that, everybody seems to have thrown in the towel. Too much water under the bridge? I'm glad to see that Wallsend is posting again. I don't think he meant to derail things, if that's what happened.

So, in an effort to spur things on a bit, I'll ask you all a question which is so basic probably no one will want to answer: How did you find The Band?

In my case, I came to The Band quite late in life, around 1989. I'm not exactly a fountain of information about rock music, as my background is more in classical music, but in a way that's how it came about.

I had recorded "Carny" to watch off a local TV station, and that movie really hooked me in from the start. After a watch or two, I couldn't help noticing the same name cropping up all over the credits, and you all can guess whose name that was. He really intrigued me, so after a little research I discovered he was part of this group The Band I vaguely remembered from the past, so went out and bought a tape (remember those?), "The Best of The Band", which was the only thing I could find at the time. I brought it home, put it on for a listen, and I have to admit that at first I was a little taken aback - what was this weird, moany music? (The first track was "Tears of Rage".) But I was hooked in from the start, because I thought they were simply better musicians than most. And their music was very complex. The more I listened, the better it sounded, and off I went on a quest to find more. Bit by bit I accumulated their albums, and fell right in love. I also realized early on that the unnamed guitarist who had impressed me so much at the 1966 Bob Dylan concert all those years ago was the same Robbie Robertson.

By this time, The Band had become a bit of an obsession, and I love doing research, so I spent lots of time in the library gleaning any information I could find, books, back issues of music magazines, etc. It was lovely - I had such a great time, and it was so much fun. Now, of course, I could find practically everything it took me a couple years to find at the click of a mouse button, but I don't regret it a bit. It was way more exciting making discoveries a bit at a time than having it all handed to me on a platter, so to speak. Then, when I finally learned how to use a computer a few years ago (late starter, to put it mildly!) the first thing I looked up was The Band, and the first thing I found was Jan's site, and found all of you, and I've been a daily reader ever since.

So that's my story ... what's yours?


Entered at Mon Aug 11 21:25:10 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Lisa

What’s Changed….two things:

1. Steve is gone and with him daily content that entertained some, infuriated many but always generated responses.

2. PutEmUp(Friend0 changed his name, Norm moved to a condo, David left in a snit ( I am still hoping dearly to inherit his record collection in about 40 years and somehow find out “what’s playing on his turntable” every now and then ), Al Edge has left home and has embarked on a journey to prove that Louis Suarez has never bitten anyone, Toppermost just paid a record transfer fee to Peter and the guy posting here under his name is actually a 20 year old midfielder from Columbia that thinks Norah Jones wrote Java Blues…….the rest are all respectably married or running whorehouses in Buenos Aires.


Entered at Mon Aug 11 21:18:35 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Thanks for the link sadavid, and for your thoughts Lisa. I just thought of a good name for the big 'plantation' company that's coming to take over from the family farm - King Harvest! No? Anyway, here's a link to a song that is similarly evocative of a gone or going way of life, though the song itself only starts around 3:20 or something. The mandolinist is Willie P Bennett, in whose honour Linden, Fearing and Wilson recorded their initial Blackie and the Rodeo Kings project.


Entered at Mon Aug 11 19:12:32 CEST 2014 from (174.1.247.160)

Posted by:

Lisa

Subject: Corn in the fields

Sadavid, thank you for that. It was wonderful - very evocative, even if Ole had four wheels instead of two legs.

So what is happening to the Guestbook? It seems as though everyone but a few stalwarts has given up. Has everything been said, and now the Band train is going to chug away into the distance and out of our lives? I hope not! Peter was right, though. Things were a lot livelier in the past. What changed?


Entered at Mon Aug 11 17:02:08 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: corn in the field

An old article from a series about a farm family.

This was at the time when everybody realized that the family farm was dying, to be succeeded by plantations.
They hope it is not too late and fear it already is . . . anyway, it is a Minnesota story, and it has an Ole in it . . . .


Entered at Mon Aug 11 16:07:35 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Spirit

Our very own Rob The Organ has a new Toppermost up today on Spirit. Not the cartoon, but the band who might have been named after it. Linked.

I was looking back through 2002 / 2003 archives to see if I'd reviewed Norah Jones (couldn't find it) and it struck me how much wider the world of the GB was. Life The Universe & everything.


Entered at Mon Aug 11 15:48:14 CEST 2014 from (72.78.48.169)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love

Subject: Bob and Robbie RTR pic

Ian, that pic appeared a couple of days ago and I didn't think I'd seen it before either, but yes to the place and the song.


Entered at Mon Aug 11 11:46:41 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Never seen that pic before Ian. Judging by the guitar I'd say it may have been an unplanned (?) walk on.


Entered at Mon Aug 11 10:46:18 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Robertson during Rolling Thunder show ?

Maybe this photo is well-known but I hadn't seen it before:-

http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m542/blue281/1975.jpg

I assume it's "It Takes A Lot To Laugh" at Madison Square Garden on 8 Decemeber 1975. Is that right?


Entered at Sun Aug 10 23:55:44 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Twilight

Catherine Popper sings most of the lead on the Pussnboots version. I'm trying to find where Norah Jones did it alone or whether it's false memory … she has recorded Bessie Smith and Life Is A Carnival. I think it's false memory. I saw her at Hammersmith in London around the second album, and I've been trying to find whether I reviewed it here … I would have I'm sure. But I never kept it.


Entered at Sun Aug 10 23:10:08 CEST 2014 from (58.104.17.108)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Norah is very talented but I think she could have done a lot more with Twilight. I am not sure a minimalist approach to a minimalist song is the way to go.


Entered at Sat Aug 9 19:14:19 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Pussnboots

Norah Jones project with Sasha Dobson and Catherine Popper is Pussnboots, with "No Fools No Fun". It has a new version of Twilight, which Norah Jones has done before. Interesting to hear a female vocal trio. They have changed the words considerably in the studio version. They did it at the Levon tribute in 2012 too. There are three versions on YouTube. A live 2014 version is linked. I have to say the drumming isn't much good … we got the CD today and put it on in the car for a 90 minute drive and we both said "That's not a person who normally plays drums." But ignoring that, it's fun.

Though by no means the best track on the album, which I reckon is the opener, Tom Paxton's Leaving London.


Entered at Sat Aug 9 19:01:25 CEST 2014 from (24.114.94.26)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Rockin' Chair

Woke up this morning to hear of a disgruntled condo owner throwing a few rowdies from a window somewhere in British Columbia...........and immediatley thought "Oh no, maybe Norm isn't adjusting to condo living as well as we had hoped".


Entered at Sat Aug 9 18:20:36 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Supremes

My latest Toppermost is up on The Supremes plus a chance to catch up on an interesting week. Please comment over there,


Entered at Sat Aug 9 14:24:05 CEST 2014 from (83.249.137.149)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Ragtime

It was Ragtime who wished me welcome to gb after my first humble post for fifteen years ago. On behalf of this golden gb community I say "thanks for this extraordinary effort". (Consequently, all complaints should be adressed _to him_ as well :-)

I will always remember his aforism: "In Low countries every day is April 1st."


Entered at Fri Aug 8 13:54:15 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Bill M

I like Rick's moving performance, and it's a bloody shame that the audience's attention is... driftin' away...

But as much as I like it, I wouldn't use the word "effortless", actually, as I would have described Rick's vocals in the seventies. And Danko and Kottke, each in their own right, are hard to compare, imho.


Entered at Fri Aug 8 01:58:03 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.134)

Posted by:

Bill M

I always enjoyed Leo Kotke's playing and singing back in the '70s, but they now pale in comparison to Rick Danko's effortless delivery in Kevin Jks link.


Entered at Thu Aug 7 22:07:58 CEST 2014 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Leo K

Have listened to 'Vaseline Machine Gun'. The man has chops.


Entered at Thu Aug 7 12:32:48 CEST 2014 from (222.158.182.36)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Some news on Garth's FB page about postponed shows due to him recovering from three broken ribs. No further details. Hope he's okay and mends soon.


Entered at Wed Aug 6 22:26:29 CEST 2014 from (58.104.7.83)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Subject: Ragtime

I really like simple arrangements of songs. I love hearing people finger picking popular songs because that style of playing really brings out the melody. What struck me about the two clips of Leo is the age difference. We are all getting older and it is kind of scary. It is said of lute players that they spend half their time playing and the other half tuning, I think this applies even more to twelve string guitarists.


Entered at Wed Aug 6 21:38:09 CEST 2014 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John

Subject: Leo K

joe. Sample Vaseline Machine Gun.


Entered at Wed Aug 6 21:35:23 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Kottke opened for the OQ at their last Chicago area show, along with Emmylou.


Entered at Wed Aug 6 21:05:38 CEST 2014 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Leo Kottke

Just got turned on to Leo Kottke. Scott Goudie, a local player, told me that his version of 'Louise' was based on Kottke's cover and that he had never heard Paul Siebel's original (until I brought it up on Youtube). I like Leo's 'Louise' and I've been sampling other of his songs. Yes he can play (duh) but he can sing as well.


Entered at Wed Aug 6 18:50:40 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: Glen Silverthorn talks about Rick Danko’s early days………stick with this link – well worth it.....and dig the photos

Bill M: on those that cannot stop gabbing……I miss the old Montreal Bistro jazz club in Toronto where the owner ( Lothar ) used to get up before every performance and in that very commanding German voice “inform” the crowd that there should be no talking – at all – while the performers are on stage.


Entered at Wed Aug 6 14:36:46 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime (P.S.)

Web: My link

BTW, talking about Leo and Bob (there's always talking about Bob in this gb), try this link. Funny!


Entered at Wed Aug 6 14:18:36 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries
Web: My link

Wallsend: pardon me boy, I like the guitar playing, but what is it that makes you smile...?

And here's is MY train favorite...


Entered at Wed Aug 6 13:59:40 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Wallsend: pardon me boy, I like the guitar playing, but what's the smile about?


Entered at Wed Aug 6 07:38:25 CEST 2014 from (58.104.15.4)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

This version of Chattanoga Cho Cho always brings a smile to my face.


Entered at Tue Aug 5 22:28:21 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Kevin J: Thanks for the link. Beautiful version of a beautiful song. How can people continue gabbing through such performances?

Ian W: Thanks for the follow-up. Surely the prospect of ghost-hunting with the Winwoods in Birmingham would have trumped the prospect of an extra empty night in Manchester - and Bob would have had the power to choose.

Wallsend: You're right about trains and train songs. Because I just saw the worthy James Brown biopic, his "Night Train" is top 10 of mind - as it should be. Another top-tenner would be a great favourite of mine, "I Like Trains" by Fred Eaglesmith; the whole thing is terrific, and the opening verse is brilliant.


Entered at Tue Aug 5 21:27:00 CEST 2014 from (58.104.15.4)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Some great songs have been written about trains. Trains lend themselves to music, not just the rhythm but there is something romantic about a train.


Entered at Tue Aug 5 20:07:01 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Rick Danko's most beautiful 4 minutes

LINKED: A performance so beautiful it will break your heart………and if you ever did doubt how tough you have to be to perform live and put up with those that talk during performances – watch this and know………….some consolation to also know that all the Biff’s and Betty’s talking away in the audience that night have already been punished…………sent to jail for texting while driving….if only!!….likely they’re all politicians.


Entered at Tue Aug 5 19:44:07 CEST 2014 from (82.25.178.222)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Mainly for JT and Bill M re Dylan ghost-hunting in 1966

Sorry not to have responded to your comments of a couple of weeks ago but I have been up in Glasgow during the intervening period for the Commonwealth Games and, since I haven't replaced my laptop which went "kaput" a while back, I limited myself to checking e-mails on the hotel computer.

JT: I don't know for sure whether that guy was there or not. He may have been there but simply had no visual memory of Dylan's clothing, so just described an early image that he could recall. Many years ago, a friend asked me if I'd ever seen Jo Ann Kelly live and I answered "No", only to find, some years later, a diary entry that indicated that she had guested at a club I once went to, when the club I had planned to attend that night was closed for its summer break. And I have no visual memory of the place at all, only this brief diary note.

Bill M: Yes, based on the way the dates fell, it could have been 13 May, though Dylan tended to move on to the next city the day after each concert. Also, I have a faint memory that there was a specific reason that the 13th May was discounted from consideration but I disremember what that was.


Entered at Tue Aug 5 14:38:01 CEST 2014 from (222.158.182.36)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: City of NO

Nice link, Wallsend. A favourite song of mine and not a bad version. Great to see Levon's face light up at the end of the take.


Entered at Tue Aug 5 11:00:22 CEST 2014 from (58.104.24.243)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

All very sad Peter. Seems like people haven't learnt anything in the last hundred years. I think things are worse now than they were then. Link is to Levon playing on a cover of The City of New Orleans. It does't have many views so maybe it hasn't been posted here before.


Entered at Tue Aug 5 09:53:34 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Great War

A few thoughts on the start of The Great War 100 years today are on my blog. Linked. I was going to post it here, but we don't do current events anymore.


Entered at Tue Aug 5 00:53:00 CEST 2014 from (67.84.79.26)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Dixie

Just for fun, see the link.


Entered at Mon Aug 4 14:34:05 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Fly

I'm astonished at the thought that there are people who don't know TLW (aka "The Death of A Fly") by heart.


Entered at Sun Aug 3 22:12:19 CEST 2014 from (58.104.17.239)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Don't know if this transcript of TLW has been posted before but it may be of some use to people who have not already committed the entire movie to memory.


Entered at Sun Aug 3 15:45:15 CEST 2014 from (50.201.168.69)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Peaks

The Golden Chords continue to thrive. Do you not recognize them? Self-Portrait is sung and painted repeatedly with different faces. With every album presented by our creative Santa, Christmas arrives with a gift to all. As for Frank, ''doo-be-doo-be-doo. " - he did have golden cords. Roll on, Elston.


Entered at Sun Aug 3 13:54:05 CEST 2014 from (83.249.135.242)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Subject: 'Weird' creativity?

JT, I don't know about Dylan's creativity. Paintings which I saw in Denmark where plagiats, or even more: they were coloured black and white photos. On the other hand _Bob Dylan_ is a plagiat from the beginning so I don't really mind.

For me there is three peaks in his career: 1.) Golden Chords with Leroy Hoikkala and Monte Edwardson in Hibbing 2.) Self Portrait and 3.) Christmas album. I am the first to shout "hooray" if there will be Sinatra covers.


Entered at Sat Aug 2 21:33:17 CEST 2014 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Blind and Afraid of the Dark

Thinking about Garth sorta leads to this Keith Whitley tune. Not sure of thought progression.


Entered at Sat Aug 2 21:23:29 CEST 2014 from (84.143.58.144)

Posted by:

Wolle

Location: Hamburg/Germany
Web: My link

Happy Birthday Garth Hudson! My Birthdayposter for Garth on my Website! Wolfgang (the greatest THE BAND Fan from Germany!)


Entered at Sat Aug 2 21:00:50 CEST 2014 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: My Man

Happy birthday Mr. Hudson. Mine was yesterday but I'm celebrating this evening with seafood and single malt. If the weather holds we'll have a few neighbours on the back deck for a bit of singing and picking. Life is good.


Entered at Sat Aug 2 14:57:31 CEST 2014 from (50.201.168.69)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Nick Cave

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds (with Warren Ellis) get 5 stars out of 4 in Toronto concert.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/2014/08/01/a_nick_cave_concert_so_riveting_it_gets_five_stars_out_of_four.html.

I've always liked this band and Nick Cave is a major force in music. Have a listen to his albums (esp. Abattoir Blues and Dig, Lazarus, Dig to the current album.


Entered at Sat Aug 2 03:55:21 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Levon explains why the no-show & more.

: )


Entered at Sat Aug 2 03:54:18 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Levon...a no-show on Letterman

: (


Entered at Sat Aug 2 00:45:18 CEST 2014 from (173.3.48.201)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, I agree that Winston Watson was a key element... Thanks for that link, i will watch.....


Entered at Fri Aug 1 20:37:56 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

.....He was on fire then Jeff and I have always felt ( as I believe you do too ) that a large part of kicking out his cobwebs and making us all forget the "fog years" was Winston Watson.......I loved his energy..............See LINK as there is apparently a documentary on his time in the Dylan Band - 93-96


Entered at Fri Aug 1 19:08:54 CEST 2014 from (173.3.48.201)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JT ....Dylan was smoking in 94....i caught a few, one was outdoors in a tent, maybe in Pawling, NY, maybe in Connecticut near the NY border. summertime, weekend of Woodstock 94......we had pretty great seats, he and his band were great


Entered at Fri Aug 1 17:13:14 CEST 2014 from (216.75.237.130)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Arenas

For music, that is.... hockey etc... No problem! Even good acoustics fail to attract me most of the time now. The best Dylan I ever saw was in Massey Hall (65 Nov) and at the Masonic Temple in 94. The arena shows and the outside shows have somehow left me lukewarm even when the performances are good. The 74 Dylan at MLG with the Band was the exception, but I was pretty close for that one.


Entered at Fri Aug 1 17:05:46 CEST 2014 from (216.75.237.130)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Jack White carries the torch

And while I'm at it trying to contribute some words and ideas to this music site dedicated to the best we have had, (San Francisco sitting in a room dedicated to Jack Kerouac) read this about the astounding Jack White and his contribution to 'today's' musical notes.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/2014/08/01/jack_white_at_the_acc_rustic_raveups_torrid_fretwork_and_a_onehour_encore.html

Sorry I missed this one, even in a large arena (I have grown to dislike large arenas)


Entered at Fri Aug 1 16:38:05 CEST 2014 from (216.75.237.130)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Murray McLaughlin shines on

I am pleased to see Murray McLaughlin discussed here. I have admired him since the start. Like so many from Toronto, he made a major impact locally and was successful in Canada, but did not get the international sales he deserved. His songs and his work stands the test of time. He is a gentleman and continues to 'wow' quietly in his performances. With Bruce Cockburn and a few others (less known but still major songwriters - ask Bill M: he knows and writes about them all the time) Murray McLaughlin has contributed as a major force in Canadian music. If music be the food of life, play on,( Murray).


Entered at Fri Aug 1 16:16:56 CEST 2014 from (216.75.237.130)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: 'Weird' NO!: Creative and evolving, ABSOLUTELY!

There is an answer to Bill Wyman's essay at Expecting Rain today. It is definitely worth a read. For anyone who cares, I agree with the writer of that response. Bob Dylan is a performer who continues to evolve and if he wants to make metal statues or paint pictures or sing Frank Sinatra covers or write 'Desolation Row Pt 2,, (who are they now?), that is his business. If we want to see his work or listen to it, that is our business. The word 'weird' is inappropriate in my view (I opine) in that it implies that if one doesn't follow the straight line that is expected of you, that classifies you as 'weird'. If 'weird' is creative then OK. But unfortunately, 'weird' has a negative connotation. Whether it is the writer who chose this description or whether it is the editor who chose the title to sell magazines, it is not descriptive of the Bob Dylan I continue to admire for his creativity. As for his private life, that is none of my business.


Entered at Fri Aug 1 15:04:12 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: another essay about Bob Dylan

Critic Bill Wyman opines.


Entered at Fri Aug 1 04:22:05 CEST 2014 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Kevin J

Thanks for that tune. Been awhile. That clip of Ronnie and Rick and Ronnie's take on Yoko's voice is in my opinion one of the funniest lines ever. The first time I seen that was between mouthfuls of pasta! Which ended up coming out my nose I laughed so freaking hard. And if you watch Ronnie I think he's making it up as he goes along.


Entered at Thu Jul 31 23:05:16 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: Murray Mclauchlan for Bonk - loved that story!

BEG's link on Ronnie Hawkins.........Perhaps not quite as inspired as Wayne Clarkson's description of the rock n roll debauchery he witnessed back in 1978 but Ronnie's comparison of Yoko's voice to that of "de-nutting" of a hog does kind of stick with you - yes?


Entered at Thu Jul 31 21:57:19 CEST 2014 from (173.3.48.224)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Accordion story

See the link


Entered at Thu Jul 31 18:44:32 CEST 2014 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

"Put the weight on it: Hurley bridge could be named for Levon Helm"


Entered at Thu Jul 31 15:06:09 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

A Legend in the Making


Entered at Thu Jul 31 15:05:07 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Hawk with Rick Mercer


Entered at Thu Jul 31 08:33:54 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I've got Great Drives somewhere (I hope). I've had several VHS culls, and music always escaped them, but I can't find my copy. I hope it didn't inadvertently go in a skip with movies I'd replaced on DVD.


Entered at Thu Jul 31 05:01:50 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.136)

Posted by:

Bill M

Hmm - fornicatorium or bridge? Let's split the difference and go with strip poker.


Entered at Thu Jul 31 03:43:10 CEST 2014 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Great Drives.

Wallsend. Good video. Someone's already posted it here I believe.


Entered at Thu Jul 31 03:22:52 CEST 2014 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Location: Saltspring Island/Cabbagetown

Subject: Kevin J

Kevin. I remember that Holy Grail with Murray and Levon. I think in one part of it they made Levon get in some kind of boat for a tune. Like you I would love to see it again. In the early 70's Murray lived above a 'fix it yourself' garage on Parliament Street just above Queen Street in Cabbagetown and my kid brother used to go up and jam with him over many beers. One time I went with him and I remember the smell from the downstairs garage was brutal. 30 years later Murray was here on Saltspring doing a gig at the Fulford Hall and I waited until a break in sets and came up behind him and said "long way from Queen and Parliament eh Murray" He spun around and said fuck, do you remember the odor in that place?


Entered at Thu Jul 31 00:58:59 CEST 2014 from (184.66.164.212)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Message in a Bottle

A toast to this discussion (only the good bottles, if you please). To your health! Shakespeare maybe had it right when he commented "Much Ado About Nothing". Let it flow.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 23:46:51 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Not much of a party, then

It had struck me that Dom Perignon would not be stocked in large quantities. Two bottles would hardly sustain three days. You'd be likely to suffer from thirst in fact. Still, I had thought Robbie might have been more of a connoisseur of champagne. Something more economical but more interesting.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 23:42:20 CEST 2014 from (58.104.19.183)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Subject: Dom Perignon

Peter, not to worry. I have found another website that reports that, on the night in question, the hotel only had two bottles in stock so that the phrase 'entire stash' is somewhat misleading. According to the same site, when director Wayne Clarlson arrived to investigate, he found Robbie sitting quietly with friends playing bridge so it seems the whole story has been blown out of proportion.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 22:40:18 CEST 2014 from (58.104.19.183)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Speaking of videos, has anybody seen or got the Great Drives documentary that Levon narrated?


Entered at Wed Jul 30 22:30:18 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Thanks. BEG

Appreciate Richard's drumming and,uh,dancing! Interesting clip.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 22:16:32 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto
Web: My link

Another Canuckistani capable of filling a boudoir on a moments notice, and without the added attraction of Dom Perignon, is Leonard Cohen. Until I saw the linked article in the paper the other day, I had no idea that the standing-but-soon-to-be-demolished Club Matador is referred to in Cohen's "Closing Time". Whatever, I certainly hope that Yonge and Dundas will be noted by the project discussed for its place in "Life Is A Carnival".


Entered at Wed Jul 30 22:06:05 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Review in UNCUT #208 (September 2014) of The Midnight Ramble Sessions Vol. 3” They gave it 8/10.

“ There’s nothing new or revolutionary here; just a bunch of simpatico musicians lovingly mining the motherlode of American music with Helm’s warm soulful presence providing the glue. Glorious.”

(Nigel Williamson)

I don’t think it was worth mentioning that Levon oversaw the artwork though (OK, yellow letters on a black background) as “artwork” hardly applies.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 20:41:22 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Kevin J...Right now I'm reading Don Felder's story. I want to read all about the diamonds and rust in his story. It would be a one-sided story if he only wrote about the good old days with the Eagles....

I was happy to find that link of Richard because he was playing drums.....and he was performing with other musicians....some I really like......and because of the time he passed.....not as many links to be found. Yes it was....cheesy? Yes, he should have had better opportunities....Yes, yes...I still like to watch him as he's the only Band member I"ve never seen in person...Although I've never hid the fact that I'm drawn to certain Band members more than others; I've posted on all of them.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 19:50:15 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dom Perignon

The Dom disappointed me deeply in fact. It's the brand that everyone in the World knows is very expensive, and is the sort of thing merchant bankers in red braces (US suspenders) order in very loud voices when they get their disgustingly inflated bonuses. I would have hoped for some lesser known but quality "boutique" champagne house. Still, if you're drinking it from someone's shoe or navel or whatever, I don't suppose it matters.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 19:30:39 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

A few things…..

* Very funny Bill M…………as an aside to Peter….Wayne Clarkson actually uses words like that so I would think more him rather than the writer Brian Johnson….by the way the film critic Brian D. Johnson has a contribution to this site with an interview/profile on Garth some years back.

* Walk of Fame: If this is true that The Band will be so honoured then I will be pleased. Some years back, Carol Caffin had been asking for support to help Rick be honoured……others were pushing for Garth ( Robbie is already on the Walk of Fame )……I had argued that that the group should be honoured and that all five members of The Band should have their faces on display…..anyhow, I wrote to the Walk of Fame Board explaining all this……..Long overdue……….For Fred…..Jacques Villeneuve is in – deservedly as Indy Car Champ, Indy 500 winner and F1 World Champion – but Gilles should also be there. I’ll keep writing.

* BEG: The Holy Grail for me in terms of video finds? Two……..1. Murray McLauchlin’s “Floating Over Canada” tv special ( late 80's ) with Levon doing “Acadian Driftwood” – as far as I know, this has never been put up on YouTube……also, an early-mid 80’s doc on Ronnie Hawkins called “The Hawk” featured some quite good material on The Band as far as I remember.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 16:48:23 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jed....not Richard's finest performance but Richard is on drums. I was still very happy to find this one a long time ago because as I've said before, it's not easy to find as much material on Richard as with other Band members.

"This video was created in 1986 by a group of professional video makers, who believed that they could create a video for a fantastic song from the past. Songs that were released and were big hits, BEFORE videos were ever conceived. These videos were aired on TV back in 1986, on a show called DEJA VIEW, hosted by John Sebastian. Never at anytime, was this song, or video, used to make money, sold, or transferred for profit by me." I have posted this video, out of love for the music and respect for all the people involved.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 15:21:12 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Robbie on the job ...

Kevin J: I can't help but think of Wayne Clarkson as Basil Fawlty showing up at the Piltdown Ponce's door in the "Psychiatrists" episode. Except that there was no Mrs Robertson and the girl was still on view, along with several others. "Ah, this calls for champagne!"

Obviously it wasn't going to be more Dom Perignon, but no doubt other brands were still available.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 15:09:39 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rockers In Recovery Radio/Video- Robbie Robertson and John Willard


Entered at Wed Jul 30 14:59:45 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Roy Orbison - The Making of King of Hearts - ABC In Concert Clip

"ABC In Concert clip on The Making of Roy Orbison's King of Hearts Album has interviews with Jeff Lynne, Clarence Clemons, ROBBIE ROBERTSON, Don Was, kd lang and Barbara Orbison. I had to cut out a video of Heartbreak Radio because it was blocked worldwide due to copyright issues."


Entered at Wed Jul 30 14:55:54 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Pam: I just entered The Band chat room. (6:02pm MET, 64.179.221.66)

Pam: "Hello Everyone. I am a producer with Canada's Walk of Fame and this October we are inducting The Band. I am trying to get in touch with Rick and Richard's families as we would like to ask for photographs and video to use on the broadcast. Does anyone know who I might get in touch wtih the families? Thanks! (6:04pm MET, 64.179.221.66)"


Entered at Wed Jul 30 12:41:34 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Peter V: Love hotels still do exist in Japan.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 08:34:48 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Fornicatorium

I had thought this an inspired invention by the writer. It’s not in the Shorter Oxford. Websters has fornicatory, giving the example ‘fornicatory literature’ which is a posh word for porn, but not fornicatorium. My spell checker defninitely dislikes it. But there are on-line references. There is a place called The Fornicatorium in Toronto, someone has built a fornicatorium over their garage with a water bed, and a fish hatchery in Edmonton is a “fish fornicatorium.” All this suggests it might have been invented in Canada, and it may be inspired by all those hotels in Viagra Falls, sorry, Niagara Falls, advertising heart-shaped beds and mirrored ceilings. I recall my kids asking why anyone would want a mirror on the ceiling. I pointed out that you didn’t have to get out of bed to shave or apply make-up.

It is not a house of ill-repute, but a room set aside and decorated for fornication. Do they still have “love hotels” in Japan? I was told they were used by married couples living at home with parents who wanted space and privacy for R&R.

Hmm. Might be a good Realtor / Estate Agent word to describe houses: “Master fornicatorium w. radiator, two power points, built in closet.”

I had been rather shocked at the idea of ordering all the champagne in a large hotel. But this was gross exaggeration. It was only all the Dom Perignon according to the article.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 02:13:38 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Richard on Drums

Would love to see a video compilation of Richard on drums.


Entered at Wed Jul 30 01:07:11 CEST 2014 from (67.84.78.132)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Rick Roberts has a new band, named Winter Rose. They debut Aug 15th in Golden, Colorado...


Entered at Wed Jul 30 00:45:57 CEST 2014 from (24.114.94.26)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Fornicatorium !

......and my good pal Bill M will never doubt me again! The Park Plaza hotel was quite a place in its day.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 23:58:35 CEST 2014 from (58.104.5.224)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

The link is to a brief reference to Robbie at the Toronto film festival including a word I have never seen before. I was impressed by the Japanese translation of the words to The Weight in the documentary just posted. Translating poems or song lyrics from one language to another is really difficult.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 23:02:04 CEST 2014 from (82.132.213.233)

Posted by:

Lee G

Kevin J sounds like a wonderful experience you had that night. And Brown Eyed Girl always loved Gram Parsons


Entered at Tue Jul 29 22:53:07 CEST 2014 from (82.132.213.233)

Posted by:

Lee G

Dennis, I have wonderful memories of our time together. God bless you, man. If I can get my arse back to Woodstock I'll take you and family out for a meal. Would be great to see you.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 22:29:13 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Stevie Wonder

I've been remiss … link to my Stevie Wonder piece on Toppermost. Please comment there rather than here.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 22:20:27 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Half Man Half Biscuit

Thanks to Rick J Leach & Rob Morgan for a recent profile at the Toppermost site - LINKED - on an 80's English band that I had never heard of before.........with lines like "and a goalkeeper with no arms and face like his" and an album titled "Achtung Bono"......what's not to love?


Entered at Tue Jul 29 20:00:00 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, apparently, American Decca could choose to ship 100,000 juke box discs (but probably divided shipping according to regional tastes). But with big releases yes, 100,000.

Another little point that Simon Napier-Bell makes it that neither Atlantic nor Tamla-Motown have a representative number of silver or gold discs, because they declined to let the awarding body see their sales figures.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 19:58:25 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Thanks for your efforts to provide translations. So much of it approaches haiku in feeling if not length. Not only that, but your middle line, "Aloof. Profound. Rigor and chaos. Mystery. Fate" could have come from the pompous promo for "Cahoots" that was playfully (I'm sure) tacked on at the end of the CD reissue.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 19:54:27 CEST 2014 from (70.53.44.212)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you to Bill and Fred for those Links…..and Bill M – yes….happiness and sadness combined in seeing such joy on the faces and then realizing how soon a number of the people on stage would be gone………….Hawkins sure was a band leader was he not? and, and , and I just love seeing Michelle Phillips dance!

Jukebox Sales: Simon Napier-Bell’s discussion of record companies back in the day controlling Jukebox’s is something I had never really thought about…….unlike shipping large quantities to record stores where the albums or singles may or may not have been sold – the Jukebox shipments were automatic straight sales………For an Elvis or Beatles, 200,000 units moved in a day might have been expected but for some of the less flashy artists, imagine arriving to the office to see a print-out that 100,000 singles had been sold in a day…..or maybe such print-outs were never distributed! What about the nickels or quarters that were dropped in hundreds and thousands of times each week across NA to actually play those plastic pieces of magic.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 19:48:13 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Band in Tokyo

Agree, John. It's so much a VHS copy than you can actually see the white tape lines streaking at the bottom … it's off a tape showing signs of wear. It's unwatchable full screen on a big Mac but it is acceptable at a smaller screen size. Take it down to iPad size.

So it is a bootleg. The sound however is very good, I thought. It was always a well-filmed concert … I bought a VHS tape in Japan when it came out. I would think they filmed it on something like U-Matic in the first place … and that always had great sound if fed properly.

I think of it as "well, I was worried the tape was printing through. At least this should last a bit longer." So I see it as someone having done the transfer for me. I haven't tried it but I doubt it's any worse than the VHS tape was, they might even have enhanced it a bit. I haven;t tried running the VHS to compare. We tend to forget what VHS was like … even U-Matic. I've had U-Matic masters professionally transferred to digital, and you can see they're not up to what a modest camera can do now. But of course no one had HD 50" or 60" TV screens in the era when it was released, and the base signal just isn't up to that. A U-Matic master might look better, but I reckon it would be pretty marginal and still look soft. A lot of fuzziness is due to poor lighting … for example in Cripple Creek. Levon looks pretty good when the camera is close in from his left where the light was, but pretty fuzzy when they switch to the camera from the right. Whenever they go to the wide shot, it's dreadful.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 18:58:30 CEST 2014 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: THE BAND LIVE IN TOKYO DVD

Subject THE BAND LIVE IN TOKYO DVD

Comments:

The good news. The DVD was delivered right on time. The bad news.......where do I start? The Band toured all over the world that year; including The Queen Elizabeth Theater in Vancouver. I own that copy on VHS. It was very good quality for VHS at the time. This concert is done in Tokyo; from the same period.

The music is 5 stars. That's why I bought the CD some time back. This DVD is less than bootleg quality and I have seen better boots. It's both fuzzy and blurred. Especially a full shot of the players. It comes alive from time to time on close ups. I'm guessing this was taken from a VHS copy and burned to DVD. I don't know. I am so disappointed.

If your a completist like me than you may want it. My son is coming over Saturday and I'm going to have to warn him.

Sorry. I really wanted to love this. Couldn't they have found Master Video Tapes for this?

So I will close my eyes and listen to the great sound track. It is 5.1 and 16x9. That's the good part.

Watching Richard play the drums almost makes it worth it.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 17:39:03 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Watching the follow-on link from the Japanese documentary to Ronnie Hawkins performing at an awards ceremony in 2010 (linked) was somehow good for the soul. Within a relatively short while at least three of the participants - Domenic Troiano, Zal Yanofsky and Denny Doherty - were gone. Troiano is brought up front by Hawkins right at the end and does some really nice guitar work (especially for a man as ill as he was).


Entered at Tue Jul 29 14:59:07 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: well said

"The Band.
Topic difficult and attractive so do not give some Oh yeah.
Aloof. Profound. Rigor and chaos. Mystery. Fate.
Impressed come blur from the sound, chest as Kakimushira."


Entered at Tue Jul 29 14:58:20 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Fred! Fabulous stuff (so far) - thanks!

Kevin J: Thanks for that idea that Robbie would have been in Toronto for the film fest. If September, it would have been '79 or, more likely, '80. I've gotta say that extremity of some of the details suggest that they came to you fifth or six hand; I doubt that Robbie really soaked up the champagne supply or really didn't rouse himself to see a single film. You didn't hear this from Ronnie hisself did you?


Entered at Tue Jul 29 14:54:10 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: synchronicity

Peter V - Napier-Bell's point about the jukebox are confirmed on the page Fred linked (translation courtesy Google):

"Rivu~on gave us in response to an interview after playing. When I was a child, "I did not hear the record.
Juke box was the source of the music most.
It was really beautiful, the sound was also great
When it comes to town with his father, I sat near the jukebox got a coin,
you had listened all the way to sound like you've never heard. ""


Entered at Tue Jul 29 09:34:00 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Song to Soul Episode 33 The Weight

I've been able to locate the TV program on youtube. The person who uploaded the show split it in 4 parts....part 1 is missing though.

PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uCUtqlKaFU

PART 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_od3r1E5Mk

PART 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7fefr7W2lw


Entered at Tue Jul 29 09:29:09 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: What I missed on TV last night...

Actually it was on at midnight. Silly me for wanting to get some sleep. It was a repeat showing, which means it'll be on again. I wonder if there's anything on youtube?

It's a decent TV show especially due to the fact that the interviews aren't overdubbed by some bad Japanese voice actor.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 09:00:53 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dolly

I also noticed how astute Dolly Parton must have been. The Blue Smoke CD has a bonus "Best of" CD with her greatest hits. All this is on Sony Masterworks, though her last album was on A&M and the one before on MCA. The sub-label is "Dolly" on all of them, so I assume she retains all rights to her catalogue and chooses who to lease it to on a "what's best this year" basis.


Entered at Tue Jul 29 08:53:09 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: CSNY / Dolly / Record sales

Thanks, the reviews all single out Neil young as the main reason to buy, and that Graham Nash was good. As I say, I recall Neil being way out of it at Wembley, and Nash fine.

The price difference ($38 USA v $91 UK) might be explained by some facts about the markets which surprised me. Because the HMV chain has survived, though much reduced, we still have "record shops" in most towns. So they believe they can sell a few. This was illustrated by sales of “Blue Smoke” by Dolly Parton, which is the last week’s current listening. I Googled yesterday, and it has sold 57,000 physical copies in the USA, against 110,000 physical copies in Britain, where it is also right at the top of the supermarket “Top Twenty” (20 is all the CDs they sell). She was helped here by headlining at Glastonbury, but it seems the physical market per capita is much larger in the UK. Thus CSNY have a chance of selling box sets here and don’t need the heavy discount … $38 is after all cheap for 3 CDs and a DVD in an elaborate package.

I’ve been reading Simon Napier-Bell’s erudite history of the music business, Ta-Ra-Ra-BOOM-De-Ay (highly recommended, especially on the pre-rock era), and it was similar through the late 1920s and 1930s where Europe generally had higher per capita record sales than the USA, and indeed EMI was the world’s biggest record company. The explanation is that radio was far better and more important in America, where in Europe it was generally tightly-controlled and restricted, and also that a more concentrated population basis gave easier access to record stores. No one wanted to buy shellac records mail order from the Sears catalogue. Thus music publishers in the USA were more focussed on radio play. Another little fact … juke boxes were hugely more mportant in the USA. American Decca controlled 100,000 out of 250,000 juke boxes in the early days, which gave them a guaranteed sale of any record they wanted to push hard. Even by 1960, juke boxes were so important that record labels produced those “33 rpm singles” for juke boxes, which never turned up in Europe.

Comments welcome! .


Entered at Mon Jul 28 21:16:19 CEST 2014 from (24.114.94.26)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Fred: Thank you. A day seeing the the late great Gilles is always special...and hearing Murray Walker - wow.

Bill M: I liked that story......thinking that it was probably a September evening as Robbie was often in town for the Toronto film festival back in those days - the early years of the festival. In fact, in Brian D. Johnson's book on the history of the Toronto festival, he tells the story of how the festival's organizers were provided a lesson of sorts in how rock n roll decadence far surpassed that of the film school boys and girls..........as the story goes, the organizers had named The Band's Robbie Robertson as a member of the Jury to evaluate films and this position came with a promise of all expenses to be covered while in town..........RR arrived at the hotel and immediatley called down to order all available champagne in stock be delivered to his room (that one order alone blowing the entire expenses budget!)........the party had started and according to legend continued for the duration of the festival.....the kicker was that RR apparantly never attended a single film screening.


Entered at Mon Jul 28 21:00:42 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

JT: The rest of Blackie and the Rodeo Kings is also very well represented on the "Borrowed Tunes" comp from 1994. Colin Linden and the other instrumentalists (Richard Bell, John Dymond, Gary Craig) cover "Tonight's The Night" (with Rick Danko on background vocals), and Tom Wilson, fronting his old band, Junkhouse, does a killer version of "Fucked Up". Linden also appears on Lori Yates' version of "Helpless", which he also produced and which also has Rick Danko on BG vocals. (Rick had also appeared on Yates' Linden-produced CD.)

Thanks to Wikipedia, I now know that the full BARK also appears on "Borrowed Tunes II", performing "Unknown Legend".


Entered at Mon Jul 28 17:32:43 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: CSNY 74

Been listening to this Boxset since receiving it a few weeks ago.Neil Young iis the highlight of this album.His creativity,freshness and energy are noteworthy.Nash is excellent,Stills is hoarse and off key at times and Crosby has sounded better.Overall,a good Boxset,but if you're not a hard core fan,4 Way Street is a much better choice.The overall sound quality on this release is fair.Despite these criticisms I'm enjoying listening.Neil's On The Beach is tremendous!


Entered at Mon Jul 28 17:31:29 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Stephen Fearing

Bill M: Thanks for mentioning Stephen Fearing. We should cherish his talent and all that he does. He continues to thrive and is among the best of what Canada still offers. He is doing well and continues to create on his own and with BARK. I always look forward to his performances and expect he will be on stage again soon. He deserves international recognition and is among the best.


Entered at Mon Jul 28 16:22:46 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Motel California

Peter V: I couldn't help thinking of CSN when I listened to Stephen Fearing's wonderful cover of "Thrasher" on "Borrowed Tunes: A Tribute to Neil Young" (which has Rick Danko singing background on a couple songs by a couple different people): "The motel of lost companions / Waits with heated pool and bar".


Entered at Mon Jul 28 15:45:50 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: CSNY 1974

In a bold move, CSNY have put five audio tracks and one video from “Live 1974” as the MOJO covermount disc this month.

An explanation is that they’re not shifting any box sets in the UK. Amazon.com have the 3CD + DVD set at $39.88, while amazon.co.uk have the same box set at £53.99, which at today’s rate of exchange comes out as $91. People have been complaining and saying “wait till HMV’s Christmas sale, they’ll be giving them away." I've been thinking, I'll wait till my son comes over in the autumn and get him to bring one. After all, we've waited forty years for it. A few months won't make a difference.

Much as I enjoyed the video of Our House, it’s fuzzy and largely out of focus.


Entered at Mon Jul 28 15:17:30 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Another memory surfaced over the weekend. The backstory is that when Domenic Troiano left the Disciples / Hawks in late '64 or early '65, two guitarists were hired to the lineup; Terry Bush was chosen by the Disciples, but Hawkins, wanting to ensure some continuity when the Disciples decided to go off on their own, as he knew they would. So Hawkins hired Bobby Starr, who was contracted to Hawkins personally while Bush was contracted to the Disciples. Smart move, as the Disciples pushed off a year later, but Starr stuck around and became part of a new lineup that included Sandy Konikoff, Stan Szelest and Eugene 'Jay' Smith. What came to mind over the weekend is that I got a call from Robbie Lane in '79 or '80 to say that he (likely with Terry Bush) had gone to see Hawkins at the Clubhouse the previous night and Robbie Robertson and Domenic Troiano has also turned up. I don't think they got up to play, but Robbie Lane was quite excited to sit with Robertson, Troiano and Bush as they swapped stories and talked guitars. (They would all have known each other well back in the day.)


Entered at Mon Jul 28 05:41:24 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Kevin J: Yes I did! Sadly I think this may be a one-off, the way things have been going lately, but as a fan I can only hope there'll be a few more like this. For a bit there, when Alonso was holding on to his lead I was transported back to Spain 1981.


Entered at Mon Jul 28 02:31:48 CEST 2014 from (24.114.94.26)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Legends, Icons & Rebels reaches number 1

I believe that Danko, Fjeld, Andersen reached number 1 in Norway back in the early 1990's which did mark a milestone as no The Band album, The Band single or any recording by any other individual member ever achieved number 1 success on any other chart anywhere - ever..........but happy to see that Legends, Icons & Rebels has reached number 1 on the vaunted Amazon.com sales chart - category of "children's music books" may not be "Billboard Hot 100" but it is a nice accomplishment for Robbie, Sebastion and colleagues.......what makes this book so great is that it did not play down to the target audience........News networks across the globe could take a lesson from this.

Fred: I hope that you were able to catch the race today.....an absolute beauty.


Entered at Sun Jul 27 22:39:28 CEST 2014 from (58.104.1.213)

Posted by:

Wallsend

The Robbie book looks great. The art work reminds me of Moondog Matinee. I hope all the depictions of the guitars are 100 percent accurate or else the aficionados will be upset.


Entered at Sat Jul 26 18:15:58 CEST 2014 from (24.161.13.96)

Posted by:

Dennis

Location: West Saugerties

Like Peter, took me a while to put the initials together:

LG! He walks, he talks, I still have a couple of Day In The Garden stickers I've saved for fifteen years for you!

Glad to hear of you again.


Entered at Sat Jul 26 17:50:51 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Check out the pages of Sebastian Robertson's Rock & Roll Highway: The Robbie Robertson Story from Henry Holt and Company Books for Young Readers


Entered at Sat Jul 26 17:36:44 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rick Danko at Good Old Days Picnic at Kennedy Park Highbanks Somers Point (circa late 90s)...scroll down.


Entered at Sat Jul 26 17:32:20 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rick Danko Recognition - "Walk in the Footsteps of Rock Music Legends"


Entered at Sat Jul 26 17:31:05 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Portrait in Rock...Garth


Entered at Sat Jul 26 02:57:57 CEST 2014 from (58.104.14.34)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

If Bob ever loses his voice completely we can just replace him with Jimmy Fallon. BTW, the Jimmy Fallon version of The Weight on YouTube has almost 2.5 million hits!


Entered at Fri Jul 25 23:33:31 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: John Prine and a band JT, Bill M and BEG will remember

LINKED: a rock n roll "Angel From Montgomery"


Entered at Fri Jul 25 22:42:23 CEST 2014 from (76.69.139.175)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Dylan's voice

I read on this site about Dylan's voice being 'shot'. I then am amazed at the recording of 'Full Moon" that was on line recently (the old Sinatra song). Dylan's voice was in fine form. I understand that there is 'magic' in the studio and that maybe even my voice might measure up to some standard, but this recording by Dylan (assuming it was done recently) is in my view up to his best vocals and cannot in any sense be classified as 'shot'. If this is a sample of what we are to get on the new album next month, then we are in for a treat - at least those of us who value new Dylan albums and are not mired in the 60s and 70s. (Opening myself to criticism but thats the game we play when we opine).


Entered at Fri Jul 25 21:18:34 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: It's quibbling, I know, but Robbie was 16 (10/59-07/43=16y,3m) when the Suedes photo appeared on the back of a CHUM chart, and two or three months older when he joined Hawkins (though by that time he'd been hanging with Hawkins, most notably tagging along with Ronnie, Levon et al as a 15-year-old to the jam in Oshawa the footage of which appeared in the "Yonge Street Rock and Roll Stories" documentary.

As for Troiano, he would have been in the Disciples by '63, as were his east-end buddies, Sonny Milne and Bert Hermiston. He was on the first few records on Ronnie Hawkins' Hawk label, which started up in '64: "Fannie Mae" by Robbie Lane and the Disciples; "Let The Good Times Roll" by Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks [i.e., the Disciples] and "Betty Jo" by the Strato-tones [who in this case were singer / pianist / producer Scott Cushnie, Troiano and unidentified others - likely Disciples]. Troiano also wrote two of the six sides. He left Hawkins shortly afterwards, and was hired to the new guitarist and arranger for Whitey [Glan] and the Roulettes, replacing Mike McKenna and Steve Kennedy respectively. The Roulettes changed their name to the Five Rogues, who changed their name to Mandala.

As you know, McKenna went on, by way of Luke and the Apostles, to co-found McKenna Mendelson Mainline, whose first LP, "Stink", I was pleased to pick up in England two weeks ago. It's nice for the Mainline completist to have the first, i.e., British pressing because it includes maybe five bits of studio banter that were cut from US and Canadian pressings. McKenna was another of those teenagers who sat in the chips-'n'-coke section at the Hawkins / Hawks matinees at the Concord, trying hard to learn Robbie's 'secrets'; his playing on "Stink" shows he succeeded.


Entered at Fri Jul 25 20:45:08 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: BEG’s photos were of interest in two other ways for me……I had not known that Domenic Troiano was on the scene that early…I had always thought he came along many years afterwards……also, a point never really mentioned but it stands out that Robbie Robertson was – it seems – fully grown as a 15 year old. In many of these photos from that era he stands head and shoulders above the rest……may partly explain the confidence he had as a 16 or 17 year old to judge songs and songwriters on that trip to the Brill building where Hawkins wanted to have him along for his ears.


Entered at Fri Jul 25 19:43:24 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Lane and the Disciples

In the photo of the Hawks and the Disciples (and Freddy McNulty) at one of BEG's links, the correct spellings are Cudmore, Trach, Hermiston and McNulty. Robbie Lane and the Disciples still play regularly, though Robbie's the only original left in the group. Sonny Milne, though, still plays regularly with Little Caesar on the Consuls, who are led now by saxman Norm Sherrat, who was the saxman 55 years ago when Robbie Robertson was in the band! Of the other Disciples, Troiano and Hermiston are gone and Trach and Cudmore have retired from music.

That reminds me: A week or so ago Bonk mentioned having seen somebody play at the Clubhouse on Merton Street in Toronto at the end of the '70s. I remember going there just once, and that was to meet up with a British Hawkins fanatic, Wild Willie Jeffrey, at a Hawkins show. Willie introduced me to Ronnie, who told me about his first, African-American group of Hawks - totally new news to me at the time. I don't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if the same Merton Street building had housed the CHUM HiFi Club, the site of the little 1959 photo (see link) of Ronnie Hawkins guesting with Robbie Robertson and other members of the Suedes, the 'house' band at the time.


Entered at Fri Jul 25 16:53:34 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Richard Manuel The Band original stencil art on vinyl LP record...as well as others from The Band, Dylan, George Harrison and Woody Guthrie.


Entered at Fri Jul 25 16:50:27 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Richard Manuel Discography On Video


Entered at Fri Jul 25 16:45:58 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Taken at the "Summer Gardens" in Port Dover Circa 61-62...This is sort of a jam with "The Hawks" and Robbie Lane & "The Diciples"..just before they joined the Hawk....


Entered at Fri Jul 25 16:29:02 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I think the main feed from the soundboard through the best speakers would still show the cheapskates that his voice is shot …


Entered at Fri Jul 25 16:10:56 CEST 2014 from (24.114.96.26)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: LG

Townes Van Zandt: I envy you on that one Lee.......I have never been brought to tears at a show but some strong emotions - especially looking back at some very special experiences shared. A very spur of the moment decision to go see Rick Danko at a small club just outside Montreal ( Pioneer club, Pointe-Claire ) in 1990 or 1991 with my late sister would be at the top of that list........What a night.

NWC: Just as Bob Dylan has mirrors positioned all over the stage to prevent good quality pictures and videos to be taken at his shows, so too has his team been known to have specialized distortion speakers set up just outside the gates at outdoor shows to tease the cheapskates.........trust me, it sounded great inside the gates!


Entered at Fri Jul 25 14:27:41 CEST 2014 from (83.249.129.43)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Dylan in Sweden

On a serious side... Dylan played only for a few miles away. At the same time there was a chamber music concert for only appr. 50 people in another fishing village nearby. Some people from Royal Philharmonics, Royal Opera and Royal Musical Academy have their summer residences there. Their goal is to arrange a miniature chamber music festival in the village and this was the way to gather people who are interested to be a part of this. We were there instead of Dylan concert.

On our way back home we stayed in the front of the gate and heard Dylan slaughter 'All along...'. He made it to a nursery rhyme... sort of. Song and dance men have been arrested for less!

Thanks for not showing this post to JT.


Entered at Fri Jul 25 12:31:44 CEST 2014 from (83.249.129.43)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Oooops!

Somehow I just posted in Swedish. This is an English (and Finnish) translation:

"I hope that DJ is using a Linux / Unix based equipment. Otherwise I'll take my car and drive to "Allsång på graensen" and whisper "Judas" ;-)"

"Toivottavasti tiskijukka käyttää joka tapauksessa Linux/Unix-pohjaista laitteistoa. Muussa tapauksessa menen "Allsång på graensen" -tapahtumaan ja kuiskaan "Judas" ;-)

Just for the gb historians!


Entered at Fri Jul 25 12:16:14 CEST 2014 from (83.249.129.43)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Northwestern coast

Subject: jh / DJ

Hoppas att DJs utrustning är baserad i alla fall på Linux / Unix. Annars kommer jag till "Allsång på graensen" och viskar "Judas" ;-)


Entered at Fri Jul 25 05:19:11 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hey Leeee...."My copy of this record has traveled with me across three continents and through 30 litres of whiskey. There’s no knowing where we’ll go next. It’s worth noting here that I could also write a whole list based purely on songs sung by Richard Manuel."

Seven Songs That Make My Soul Sing
I also like on this list Elvis Costello's "Alison" and Mazzy Star's "Fade Into You"

Before I was at our Jazz Street Festival this evening I saw the film "Tammy" with Melissa McCarthy. Her rendition of Greg Allman's "Midnight Rider" was worth seeing the film. Apparently others didn't agree with me. Oh well....Loved how Susan Sarandon's character apparently slept with Duane once upon a time...Really enjoyed Gregg Allman and band at Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival. He also covered Neil Young's "Needle and the Damage Done".....


Entered at Thu Jul 24 23:34:17 CEST 2014 from (82.132.219.164)

Posted by:

LG

Kevin J just had to say I saw Townes Van Zandt in a very small club in Manchester, UK many years ago and he is the only songwriter to bring tears rolling down my face. Not in a bad way or due to his performance. The way he performed and the quality/delivery of his songs was fabulous. Some of the best gigs I've ever seen have been in small clubs Dan Penn & Spooner Oldham is another one that comes to mind


Entered at Thu Jul 24 23:01:15 CEST 2014 from (82.132.216.222)

Posted by:

LG

Many thanks for the links Brown Eyed Girl really enjoyed them. Brother Jan, I'll be in touch soon. Congrats on your son. Peter it's been a long time, man


Entered at Thu Jul 24 20:22:16 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Anyone who remembers the Steve Earle’s statement attached to the excellent film “Be Here To Love Me” – a documentary of sorts on the life of Townes Van Zandt – which read........“Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the world, and that I’d stand on Bob Dylan’s coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that.”

Great quote that sure grabbed ones attention……but it did seem just that didn’t it…..anyway, a few days ago Earle corrected the record:

“Do I believe that? No. Did I ever believe it? Fuck no. Somebody asked me for a quote for a sticker…”

Al Edge: Good catch! There are so many damn songs on Exile and many that run into each other in a way that I forgot about “Tumbling Dice” – a special song indeed. “Shine a Light” is my favorite song on the album.


Entered at Thu Jul 24 19:27:42 CEST 2014 from (171.159.194.10)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Carter Baron CD

I'm listening to the Carter Baron CD that was recently released. The sound quality is very good. I haven't compared it to the other versions of this concert that I have. But, this is very acceptable sound quality and I recomend this for anyone who doesn't have a CD of this show already. Hopefully, the upcoming Palladium CD that was just announced a few days ago will have similar sound quality.


Entered at Thu Jul 24 18:26:33 CEST 2014 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

While we´re at it:

Our former house DJ is playing at the Museum of Modern Art PS1 in Queens, New York City, this Saturday! (link above)

The gig is part of MoMAs Warm Up 2014 concert series, "introducing audiences to the best in experimental live music, sound, and DJs -- both local and international -- across a range of genres." The concerts are "programmed by a curatorial committee selected by the museum to represent a wide spectrum of expertise and experience in music, sound, and the performing arts, resulting in a unique lineup of artists that explore, interpret, and combine genres".


Entered at Thu Jul 24 18:01:15 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

jh....Congrats with your son's collaboration with the very young and talented Ariana Grande. Did he actually meet her and her signature white boots? I hear a song there......"These boots are made for walkin' and that's just what they'll do...and one of these days....these boots are gonna walk all over you."


Entered at Thu Jul 24 17:31:27 CEST 2014 from (65.93.101.159)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

When I was asked to share some links on Richard Manuel I tried to link some newer ones.....I never saw the photo with Garland Jeffreys which of course brought me joy. I looked quickly through all of the links that jh had once complied under brown eyed girl's links for awhile.....and as I previously stated it's more challenging to find links for Richard period. I wasn't looking for performances by Richard. I like seeing my favourite musicians in other settings as well. So I posted once again the CASBY award show where Richard gave the Hawk an award.

Of course it was uncomfortable........The elephant in the room always is.....He had a dis....ease. There is no shame in that. I actually thought he did well considering. Now the Hawk....I also heard him use his humour again to remember and share about Richard....that was also uncomfortable on a radio show that I had also linked before.......

Bill M.....I hadn't looked at your other perspective about the Hawk......Thanks for sharing it as I'm sure he loved Richard and although it wasn't the best time to use his humour.......I'm sure he was like everyone else who probably was so frustrated that someone with huuuuge talent and who could connect with so many of us couldn't stay with us for a longer time. He was the soul of the Band......What really irks me is that hardly anyone knows that he is Stratford's real gem. Hoping finally in September to have a visit with Richard and hope he understood that when I find anything on Richard.....I just love to see him anywhere.....period.

Perhaps maybe now Band fans who slam Robbie for not showing more of Richard at TLW.....now understand as well. Anyone who has been with an alcoholic and/or drug addict knows and feels how painful for everyone concerned. Anyway, for me.....I love seeing Richard's performances from the early seventies.....and I would looooove to see some from the days of The Hawks!!! I can't tell you how happy I was to see the Festival Express performance for the first time at our Toronto Film Festival at the same Elgin Theatre where I saw TLW two times in one night in 1978! So I've linked that one once again. :-D


Entered at Thu Jul 24 16:32:39 CEST 2014 from (182.250.246.203)

Posted by:

Kerrin

I think 'insensitive a-hole' is one of the attributes we all love about Hawkins, it is part of his crowd pleasing persona. It seems as though if anyone else had been on the receiving end this could have been funny, just not Richard. To be fair, they both seem completely loaded.


Entered at Thu Jul 24 14:45:32 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

jh: Congratulations to the justifiably proud papa!

BEG/Kevin J: I agree that it's uncomfortable and says more about Hawkins - but what exactly it says is not clear-cut. It could say that Hawkins was being a totally insensitive a-hole in treating Richard as a handy nail for his sledgehammer wit. Or it could say that Hawkins so deeply cared for Richard that he was willing to risk looking like a totally insensitive a-hole in an attempt to shock-shame Richard into changing his ways.


Entered at Thu Jul 24 11:51:51 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Tumbling Dice

I do tend to agree in broad terms with Kev and Bill re Exile.

That said, whilst the definition of what constitutes a 'GREAT' song can be shrouded in subjectivity, boy oh boy is the opening 2 and half minutes of Tumbling Dice [linked] more than a bit special.

:-0)


Entered at Thu Jul 24 11:36:26 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Richard

Just reflecting on kev's posts.

Got to say, it's possibly splitting hairs but much as I do love Richard's singing in that You Don't Know me vocal circa 'mid '80's as linked by Kev, I do think the sublime flawless quality of his vocal in the 1970 Rockin Chair which I've linked and the Hobo Jungle track linked by Kev to be more representative of the gift with which he was bequeathed from above.


Entered at Thu Jul 24 00:23:21 CEST 2014 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Our site DJ is featured on Billboard #1 artist Ariana Grande's new album! (link above) And there is more to come -- feel free to guess which megastar is the next to benefit from his production skills.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 23:30:57 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Kevin-Richard

Thanks-that was a stunning rendition by Richard.Beautiful.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 21:39:35 CEST 2014 from (76.65.207.248)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

I always thought it said more about The Hawk.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 19:13:51 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: Nick DeRiso - one of a series on NLSC. This one "Hobo Jungle"


Entered at Wed Jul 23 18:46:49 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: The great Richard Manuel in fine form........for those that were disturbed by that CASBY clip. I love Ronnie Hawkins but to arm check someone on national TV in front of Richard's kids was a tough one to watch. I commented on this years ago, the last time this was shown ( on LP GB ) and it bothers me now as much now as it did then.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 18:45:14 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.131)

Posted by:

Bill M

Nice to see Mick agreeing with me.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 16:36:44 CEST 2014 from (24.114.96.245)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Better Live than studio .........The Band related - just off the top of my head...."The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down", "It Makes No Difference"...........not "The Weight" as the studio version is perfect.

NLSC: Very much underrated ......I tend to favour albums with great songs on them and understood Mick Jagger's dismissal of "Exile on Main Street" due to it not having any great songs...........NLSC with "Acadian Driftwood", "Ophelia" and "It Makes No Difference" contains 3 great songs and a number of other beauties.........Nick DeRiso has been doing a nice song by song look back at the album in recent months. Very enjoyable and worth checking out.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 14:35:56 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Rick Danko, Richard Manuel and me,
All died of a broken heart.
They left me here to sing their song
And act out the rest of the part."

Rick Danko, Richard Manuel And Me - Written and Read by Hank Beukema


Entered at Wed Jul 23 14:18:51 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

You might have missed Richard Manuel and Ronnie Hawkins on CASBY Award Show 1985...see 11:17.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 13:47:23 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

It's not as easy locating links on Richard Manuel. Check brown eyed girl's links on this site for some. However I just found.......Garland Jeffreys with.......

Paul Butterfield, Mike Finnegan, Stephen Stills, Rick Danko, Garth Hudson, Ellen Foley, Richard Manuel. Pasadena CA
Rock and Roll Tonight 4/27/83


Entered at Wed Jul 23 13:25:44 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: So that's what the PSV in PSV Eindhoven stands for : )

I've always thought that No Woman No Cry is one of those songs that sounds better in its live version rather than the original studio version. Same goes for Cheap Trick's I Want You to Want Me.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 09:55:31 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Lee, I used to get annoyed at seeing my initials (PSV) on every bus in Bournemouth (Public Service Vehicle). Time has passed.

I remember Lee phoning me nearly 20 years back, and saying "There's this thing on the internet about The Band." I didn't want to connect, though I'd worked on computer for ten years by then, because my publisher issued dire warnings about viruses and security and advised authors sending them any discs not to be connected to the internet. Ever. Yes, they were always at the cutting edge of technology. But Lee told me it was run from Norway and all sorts of people who actually knew The Band were posting there.

On Northern Lights, I agree on under-rated. Ophelia and It Makes No Difference must be equal to the most-performed pieces post TLW. Link is to the old "Jupiter Hollow" piece I did in 1998. Sixteen years ago. Phew!


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Carmen/Woodstock Hotel

Perhaps because its my part time residence for years but there's something about hotel Bob that feels kind of tacky and too commercially absurd even for Woodstock.Maybe I'm too old school.


Entered at Wed Jul 23 02:53:12 CEST 2014 from (82.132.222.178)

Posted by:

Life's Good

Subject: Brown Eyed Girl

I like your links. :) anything on the great Richard Manuel?


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Posted by:

LIfes Good

Subject: Northern Lights....

Incredibly underrated album in my opinion. A little short on tunes admittedly as they are fleshed out but some fantastic songs. I'm three songs in and Levon is sounding wonderful as always


Entered at Wed Jul 23 00:07:00 CEST 2014 from (82.132.227.104)

Posted by:

LG

Subject: Peter V

Apologies my initials caused confusion, Peter, but as it's Lee Gabites it would be strange to change. Life's Good....would be good ;) What's the news on the next reissue from Capitol/Robbie Robertson?


Entered at Tue Jul 22 23:34:51 CEST 2014 from (58.104.16.244)

Posted by:

Wallsend

A few years back I read an article in which someone was talking about the good things about rock music. One was that it employs a lot of people who are otherwise unemployable.


Entered at Tue Jul 22 21:43:54 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

While you're right that one should try to separate the person from the artist, a twisted psychopathic bastard at the end of the day, is still a twisted psychopath, not a "lovable Moon the Loon."


Entered at Tue Jul 22 20:28:21 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: max R&B

I was very taken with "I Can See For Miles" back in the day, and surprised to realize (we were starting to listen to lead guitar heroes) that the drums provided the lead line. (Very possibly a faute de mieux situation; the 'lead' guitar - including the solo - is limited to approximately one note.)

In "My Generation," both drums & bass seem to start and stop almost at random . . . how they manage to carry the beat is a mystery . . . .


Entered at Tue Jul 22 19:50:45 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Thankks for the link sadavid, and thanks for stressing its value, Kevin J. One of the finest things about the Who is that they not only tolerated Moon's ferocity, they played it up - as when the spot usually left for a guitar break would be filled by a drum break, even on early 45s aimed at the top 40 market. (To be fair, Entwistle got the odd solo break too.)


Entered at Tue Jul 22 19:32:32 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: sadavid's link

…wow! I went in thinking no more than a paragraph or two and couldn’t stop reading on. Wonderful take.


Entered at Tue Jul 22 18:19:39 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Keith Moon and Rock Drumming

From _The New Yorker_, a critical appreciation of The Loon -- (another case where you have to set aside judgments about the Person if you're going to appreciate the Artist).


Entered at Tue Jul 22 18:03:54 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

“one of the most important concerts” was the key phrase. Just as the Beatles a decade earlier had already been established and made important appearances on BBC and given countless concerts, their appearance on Ed Sullivan in NYC was the one that blew it to the moon. Had they stepped in that night, I imagine things would have been a little different. Bob Marley would no doubt have been a major star star with or without winning over the powerful US critics and recording power base then centred in LA., but those first few live shows in the US were an important turning point. Remember the industry was very different then……………………….In an interesting way, Bob Marley is actually an underrated superstar……I have been fortunate to travel to a good part of this planet and no matter where I have been – you will find Bob Marley music playing – all over Asia, Africa, Europe, South America and every part of Canada and USA….In terms of music recognition, I would think only the Beatles and Michael Jackson come close……………….although, I have to say that it is damn near impossible to walk onto any two-bit bar anywhere in the world and not hear “Hotel California” and some CCR.

Carmen: Thank you for the thoughts on "'She's Not Mine". I agree but the album version only. I found the vocal on the Bonus version too detached and therefore lacking in the emotion that puts the song over for me. Like you, I can't help but think of Richard and Rick on many RR songs. I wonder what Rick thought when RR would play him songs over the years......I am sure there were some feelings of 'you know, I could really put these over the top for you".


Entered at Tue Jul 22 17:08:38 CEST 2014 from (162.213.113.107)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA
Web: My link

Subject: Hotel In Woodstock

http://www.uncut.co.uk/hotel-named-after-bob-dylan-opens-in-woodstock-news. Favorite Marly is Natural Mystic


Entered at Tue Jul 22 13:07:10 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and there was also Bob Marley Concrete Jungle @ The Old Grey Whistle Test 1973

Looking forward to reading the Wailers' story by John Masouri.


Entered at Tue Jul 22 12:52:24 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

For our North American readers, it's hard to stress how important and unmissable the "Old Grey Whistle Test" was in 1973. I remember how everyone was raving about The Wailers the next day.


Entered at Tue Jul 22 12:44:06 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Stir It Up

I'd say the Lyceum London one that got recorded in front of a mainly Jamaican audience was the key one. The "Old Grey Whistle Test" show where The Wailers did "Stir It Up" was the breakthrough TV appearance. (Snobbish sniff here) Of course I already had the album.

Trojan did a box set of 7" singles recently with the "first" version of Stir It Up, and there's also one on the reissue De Luxe edition of Catch-A-Fire. We played both at our monthly "vinyl club" here in a hifi shop on wildly expensive equipment. Both are wonderful, but in spite of the reggae purists, the Island overdubs really do make Catch-A-Fire. I linked the Old Grey Whistle Test 1973 performance a few months ago, but let's link it again. One of the greatest rock studio appearances.

The first two Bob Marley Desert Island selections for me are Stir It Up from Catch-A-Fire, and No Woman No Cry from Live at the Lyceum.


Entered at Tue Jul 22 03:46:36 CEST 2014 from (24.114.96.245)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: Robert Hilburn's original review of one of the most important concerts in rock history. Check out the guest list for a The Band reference. I would imagine that there were some photos of that evening floating around.


Entered at Tue Jul 22 03:20:16 CEST 2014 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Holly Williams

For those not acquainted.


Entered at Tue Jul 22 03:06:27 CEST 2014 from (58.104.31.16)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

A one minute forty three second video clip from the Maple Leaf Garden show.


Entered at Tue Jul 22 00:56:44 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Great moments in Rock and Roll.
Meeting Rick Danko as told by Russ Pettinger.

Kevin J...You're usually so funny. Thanks!

LG...Peter V's got it now. ;-D


Entered at Tue Jul 22 00:52:38 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you JH! Was Rick Danko the only Band member to have taken a photo with Bob Marley?
PSB....Do you have one with Marley?
Garland Jeffreys has a photo with Marley. :-D

Audio: 40 Years Ago (January 8, 2014) Bob Dylan & The Band Play Toronto

"Here’s a recording of “As I Went Out One Morning,” from the second night at the Maple Leaf Gardens.

It’s from a bootleg of the show, As I Went Out One Evening.

According to www.bjorner.com this is the only time Bob Dylan has ever performed “As I Went Out One Morning” live. (I’ve included the setlist for the January 9, 1974 show below the video clips.)"


Entered at Tue Jul 22 00:10:03 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: No More Cane - A verse apiece

Cheers Si.

It's only taken me a few hundred listens for the penny to drop.

:-0)


Entered at Tue Jul 22 00:06:28 CEST 2014 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Ricky and Bob Marley!


Entered at Mon Jul 21 23:47:21 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Bill M: Tale of Two Cities – perhaps – Montreal and Toronto: “Say it Ain’t So” was a huge FM radio song in Montreal probably a year or so before the Daltrey cover. Funny how it worked that way between the cities with some artists……and in some cases neither city really seems to remember what was what…….Toronto folks like to think many of the English prog rock groups broke first in TO while those in the Montreal rock scene are adamant that many such bands broke first in NA from Montreal and the mighty CHOM FM……….anyhow, all that is a thing of the past now with local FM radio no longer having any influence over the kids choices of music.

LINKED: Is one of the few prog tunes that would seep up from my brother's room that I liked back in the day.......do check out the link as some stunning images of a young Peter Gabriel and excellent sound quality.


Entered at Mon Jul 21 22:08:46 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Daltrey's was the first version of that song I heard, but like you, I much prefer Murray Head's. Frankly, I think Rog could've done without just about everyone onstage aside from himself. Do you think the drummer was shirtless because he'd recently thrown up on himself?


Entered at Mon Jul 21 21:24:03 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

I prefer the original but interesting to see Roger Daltrey sing Murray Head.....the drummer seems - ahhh - confused!


Entered at Mon Jul 21 12:42:45 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

LG, I only just realized who you are, deceived by the initials on half the LED TVs in Currys. There are two versions … the raw radio show and the greatly improved one. I don't know which one the CD on amazon will be. These companies producing radio shows seem to have a new name per release. My e-mail is peter followed by the at sign followed by my surname then dot uk dot com.


Entered at Mon Jul 21 02:57:46 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.135)

Posted by:

Bill M

Roger: Thanks for the link to Kevin Gammond's recollection. I'm inclined to cut him some slack. It's easy to understand someone, forty years after the fact, summoning up a memory of a photo he'd seen a hundred times rather than an accurate visualisation of the 'real' person he saw once. It's also easy to understand a relative 'nobody' tagging along when the 'somebodies' decide to go off somewhere. Blessed is he (or she) who's never been among the nobodies in such a situation.

Ian W: Why not May 13? A group that could play Cardiff and Birmingham on successive nights could probably manage to get to Liverpool after a night of ghost-busting.


Entered at Mon Jul 21 02:18:44 CEST 2014 from (82.132.244.222)

Posted by:

LG

Subject: Hollywood Bowl 1970

Dig Robbie Robertsons solo in Time To Kill & Garths impro before Chest Fever. Very cool


Entered at Mon Jul 21 02:05:36 CEST 2014 from (82.132.246.75)

Posted by:

LG

Subject: Garth

Absolutely, I sat in Levon's kitchen with Garth & Levon while Garth was discussing me doing a book on Levon & The Hawks in 2001. I had already made many contacts from those days but unfortunately due to various circumstances on my part....


Entered at Mon Jul 21 01:38:11 CEST 2014 from (64.229.147.152)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Garth

Now THERE would be an interesting book, doncha think?


Entered at Mon Jul 21 00:11:41 CEST 2014 from (82.132.213.212)

Posted by:

LG

Peter, I presume this is the show released on silver disc many years ago out of NYC? Another one to dig out. I know I have it somewhere


Entered at Sun Jul 20 23:59:36 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just got an ad for a The Band 'Paladiun Circles 1976' from amazon. This is the radio show that most of us must have. What is happening with these live radio shows?

Put out an official one and stop the cash ins,


Entered at Sun Jul 20 23:20:42 CEST 2014 from (82.132.213.212)

Posted by:

LG

Subject: The Pencils

Ragtime, I interviewed Marty in 2000/2001 and that's how the info about The Pencils originated. I would have to go through my tapes but you could probably contact Marty through the net


Entered at Sun Jul 20 22:50:21 CEST 2014 from (82.132.213.212)

Posted by:

LG

Subject: Brown Eyed Girl

Garth has an amazing memory for things and lots of old photographs but not sure whether he kept a diary in those days. Of course, Maud would know


Entered at Sun Jul 20 22:35:14 CEST 2014 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low Countries

Subject: Any Way to Say Goodbye (Marty Grebb / Terry Danko / Richard Manuel)

Hello old friends...

A question from a Dutch pensionado...

Does anyone know where I can find the wonderful song Any Way to Say Goodbye by Terry Danko and his band (The Pencils?), written by Marty Grebb?

It used to be on YouTube since 2009 and I'd listen to it occasionally, but now it seems to have disappeared... vanished... been pulled away... thrown out...

And it's missing from Terry's own uploads as well...

And since Richard sings the lead in the first half of the song (and Terry does a great Rick imitation), it cannot be missed...

So please... if anyone can help...??!!


Entered at Sun Jul 20 20:10:33 CEST 2014 from (76.66.95.193)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Musicians and other artists themselves put out incorrect info about themselves as well. Sometimes to promote mystery or negate a particular lifestyle or class background....Dylan comes to mind........


Entered at Sun Jul 20 19:55:16 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

I thought I'd stopped reviewing blockbuster movies, but in honor of the appearance of "The Weight" I did Dawn of The Planet of The Apes, linked.


Entered at Sun Jul 20 18:20:43 CEST 2014 from (76.69.139.175)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Dylan and ghosts in 1966

Ian: I agree. Based upon what we see of Dylan repeatedly in the 1966 photos, Dylan could not possibly have appeared as he does in the photo suggestion at the top of this article. Moreover, I doubt very much if he would be wearing the togs of the early 60s during those dates. You are very considerate. The inaccuracy irks me a great deal and it is one of the sad parts (there are many 'happy' parts) of internet 'documentation'.


Entered at Sun Jul 20 17:38:14 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Dyal and Witley Court

The story in the link provided by Roger is a bit fanciful, I suspect.

It was in 1966 when Dylan was certainly not wearing a cap and sheepskin jacket. Dylan played the Capitol Theatre in Cardiff on 11 May 1966, the Odeon in Birmingham on 12 May 1966 and the Odeon in Liverpool on 14 May 1966. The most likely date for this trip to Witley Court was therefore 12 May 1966, either in the afternoon before the concert that evening in Birmingham or immediately after the show. He went with Steve and Muff Winwood from the Spencer Davis Group.

At least one Dylan biographer has said it was the afternoon of 12 May 1966 but it seems more likely that ghost-hunting would take place when it is dark. I guess Dylan was accompanied by other members of the touring party (perhaps including memebers of The Hawks) but I'm not sure. When Kevyn Gammond says that they "all" went to Witley Court, I have to say that I don't recall Jim Capaldi or Dave Mason (or Kevyn Gammond himself for that matter) being mentioned previously as a member of the party.



Entered at Sun Jul 20 14:53:36 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


Entered at Sun Jul 20 14:48:14 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Never the last Last Waltz
by Noel Murray

"My shifting relationship with Martin Scorsese’s 1978 concert film The Last Waltz is a case in point. I first saw The Last Waltz when I was a freshman in college, while still under the influence of an ex-hippie high-school English teacher who helped shape my appreciation for Woodstock-era rock ’n’ roll. That teacher didn’t just make me a tape of the first two albums by The Band; he also loaned me a copy of Greil Marcus’ Mystery Train to read while I listened, so I could appreciate the music more. By the time I watched The Last Waltz, at age 18, I’d developed a reverence for the musicians in the movie. Plus, I’d begun reading the major film critics, most of whom had declared The Last Waltz the best concert film ever made. I was primed to be awed. And I was awed.

The Last Waltz was on cable recently, and I watched it for a third time. Unexpectedly, I fell in love with the movie all over again, but from a different perspective. For the first time, I noticed how young everybody in The Last Waltz is. Most of these guys were in their 30s when they were talking to Scorsese about how wizened and road-weary they’d become, and today—to the 43-year-old me—they all look like kids. As for those much-maligned interviews with Robertson, they don’t seem so egregious any more. They seem revealing. Robertson, by all accounts, was a prick back then. Scorsese, by all accounts, bought what Robertson was selling. The Last Waltz is an honest document of both its subject and its director. This is Scorsese’s film, and its flaws and biases are personal ones.

When it comes to The Last Waltz, a lot of my souring toward the film in my 30s was due to critics like Dave Marsh, who in his essay collection Fortunate Son calls Robbie Robertson “the perfect object of the pop intellectual’s star-struck gaze,” and of the movie says, “We see the Outsider as a blustering Aristocrat… The interviews in The Last Waltz, where Robertson interrupts Rick Danko and Richard Manuel at almost every turn, are gross self-promotion, indulged with aplomb if little subtlety.” I read Marsh’s comments now, and think he makes some good points, but his take also seems unduly affected by the great claims made for The Band and The Last Waltz by other critics, and his desire to push back against colleagues like Greil Marcus by skewering Robertson’s pretensions and noting The Band’s relative lack of success at hitting the charts.

Then again, just as The Last Waltz is a valuable record of The Band, Robbie Robertson, and Martin Scorsese, so Marsh’s writing about the movie is a valuable record of what critics and rock fans were talking about circa 1978. It’s not like movie buffs and critics should hold their tongues for 20 years and then go on record with what we think. The best any of us can do is to stay as open as we can, and then be as honest as we can—even if that means writing or saying something we’ll regret later on. But we should also stay open to the changes."


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK
Web: My link

Subject: Witley Court nr Birmingham

There was a jam Bill - at a famous venue in Birmingham - The Elbow Room. The link explains that Bob didn't jam however, with Dave Mason et al.

They went down to Witley Court about 30 miles away. An amazing place - if there were ghosts, they'd collect here.


Entered at Sun Jul 20 08:21:51 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

From memory Robbie seemed a bit flustered after Evangeline/LW suite and began The Weight before Garth and Richard had changed keyboards


Entered at Sun Jul 20 04:29:47 CEST 2014 from (24.199.71.83)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: "The Last Waltz/Evangeline/Last Waltz Refrain" from TLW

Simon, thanks and great find. So interesting that The Last Waltz (song) and Evangeline had DNA in common. Fascinating because you can really see Robbie's thinking in progress. Seems like he had a number of interesting musical ideas he was playing around with in the suite, not quite fleshed out yet presumably because time was so tight, that could have resolved in any number of ways besides the ones we know today.


Entered at Sat Jul 19 23:22:00 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.145)

Posted by:

bBill M

Subject: When Gobbler met Muff ...

Speaking of Steve Winwood, there's a little vignette in Dylan's first big "Rolling Stone" interview ('68?) where he tells of Muff Winwood taking brother Steve and "all of us" (Dylan and the Hawks, presumably) to visit a haunted house outside Birmingham in early '66. I like to think they at least jammed a bit afterwards as well.

"The last of November / Leaves on the ground" finds its echo in the opening lines of "Sweet Baby James": "the first of December was covered in snow / and so was the turnpike from Stockport to Boston".

Jersey Girl: So good to see you posting!

JT: Whisky Howl had a pretty long run actually, though with an ever-shifting lineup - '68 to '76ish. They did an LP in '71 or '72 (since released on CD by Pacemaker) with Johnny Sandlin in Alabama with other Allman buddies Paul Hornsby and Chuck Leavell helping out. Five or six years ago I saw long-time drummer Wayne Wilson nip home from a coffeeshop in the James Bay area of Victoria to get his hand drum so he could play along with a very enjoyable folk duo. Sadly, he died a few years later, still in your adopted town.


Entered at Sat Jul 19 19:38:55 CEST 2014 from (24.114.96.245)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Evangeline - Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! In ragged glory - yes - but beautiful. I think Robbie's vocal was a prompt for Richard who likely forgot the words, but this made my day.........Thank you Simon


Entered at Sat Jul 19 18:38:05 CEST 2014 from (86.128.17.3)

Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Subject: "The Last Waltz/Evangeline/Last Waltz Refrain" from TLW

Al - Robbie sings the "go down ol' Hannah" verse in Ain't No More Cane.

I've linked to "The Last Waltz/Evangeline/Last Waltz Refrain" from TLW. If you go to about 1hr 26 mins you can see and hear this little overlooked nugget that was "put together kinda for the occasion". "Cane" might be the only song where all four sing a verse but this mini suite features Rick, Levon, Richard and Robbie singing.

"The last of November
Leaves on the ground
It's hard to remember
What city, what town
So many roads
Covered in stone
Surrounded by people
Yet feel so alone"

Although it sounds a bit tentative this section has a certain something ... plus it's nice to see Richard standing up and singing soul man style.


Entered at Sat Jul 19 17:34:45 CEST 2014 from (24.114.96.245)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Answers

....I have answers for whether Robbie caught the fly, Jimmy Hoffa's final resting pace, the location of Malaysian flight 370, L. Suarez's next bite, and the type of hand grenade Rod Stewart uses to comb his hair each day........but not the 2nd verse of "Ain't No More Cane" .......sorry Al.


Entered at Sat Jul 19 16:57:33 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

MARK SELIGER photo of Robbie Robertson

Special shout out to Jersey Girl again who was one of the first to share Youtube videos with all of us and who inspired me to carry on.

Special shout out to Claire who showed me how to shrink loooong links which allowed me to share even more links.

:-D


Entered at Sat Jul 19 16:49:06 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

AIN’T NO MORE ‘CANE: Levon Helm, The Basement Tapes and American Roots Music.

Btw, as far as confirming The Hawks/ The Band tour dates we still have Robbie and Garth, don't we? Many times Sebastian has posted and Maud as well. Can they not be asked to ask the remaining Band members??


Entered at Sat Jul 19 16:45:34 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jersey Girl!!!!!!

"Nothin' else matters in this whole wide world,
When you're in love with a Jersey girl,
Sing sha la la la la la la.


Entered at Sat Jul 19 15:16:47 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Aint No More Cane

I presume nobody picked up on the question I asked down below so I'll ask it again - is it Robbie singing the second verse of Ain't No More Cane on the Brazos?

If so, does that make it the only song where all four have taken a verse each? There's a few with three including The Rumour but I can't bring to mind another with all four


Entered at Sat Jul 19 13:05:59 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Whiskey Howl

As for Whiskey Howl, they were a short-lived blues band local from Toronto area at a time when a musical explosion of talent was occurring in Toronto. (Bill M knows a lot more about this than I do). That band included a number of very talented musicians, including a great bass player from my high school (who played in The Dimensions (who became A Passing Fancy) - Rick Fruchtman (Mann). I can still remember the Dimensions at my high school covering early Rolling Stones. I was floored by people my age playing that music like that. Those were special times.


Entered at Sat Jul 19 12:14:06 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: JDWIII

I saw Johnny Winter not in 1970 but on Oct. 3, 1969 at Massey Hall. Opening act: Whiskey Howl. He had played every pop festival from Varsity to Atlanta to Woodstock for months before. To say he was on fire would be to understate the case.


Entered at Sat Jul 19 01:42:20 CEST 2014 from (82.132.230.244)

Posted by:

LG

Subject: RIP Johnny Winter

Loved the sounds you made 08/99 Bethel, NY


Entered at Sat Jul 19 01:22:09 CEST 2014 from (82.132.230.244)

Posted by:

LG

Tapes from Mississippi are in the hands of some folks from 69/70.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 23:52:28 CEST 2014 from (58.104.4.247)

Posted by:

Wallsend

'Money does't talk it swears, obscenity who really cares', when you look at the terrible things that are happening in the world, have these words ever been truer.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 23:11:09 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

We did a Memphis tour which stopped outside the apartment Elvis lived in as a teenager. Apparently you can sleep in Elvis's bedroom for $200 (I slept with Elvis …) The walls are covered with lipstick.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 22:06:20 CEST 2014 from (67.85.102.246)

Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Web: My link

Subject: Hotel Dylan

Oh, lord, what's next? Link is to yesterday's NY Times: "All you need is love and $189". Doesn't exactly sound like the Chelsea.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 19:18:33 CEST 2014 from (162.213.113.107)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: RR / She's Not Mine

Listened to this song again. I think it is one of RR's best. He and Winwood should consider working together again. Boy this song has Rick's voice written all over it.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 18:22:28 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and one more by Sly's band in 1968.
Btw who was the funky violinist who played on previous extended cut of Thank You on Soul Train video?


Entered at Fri Jul 18 18:07:05 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....or the teacher could have played by Sly and the Family Stone "Thank You (For Letting Me Be Myself)


Entered at Fri Jul 18 17:40:16 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

A former co-worker told me that when she graduated from highschool her teacher played Sly and the Family Stone's "Every Day People" as they were approaching the stage to receive their diplomas. She always felt that it was his way to remind everyone to accept every one as he happened to be gay.

I always appreciated that Sly's band was progressive in that it was one of the first to have women in a band with men who played instruments and his band was multi-racial. Robbie had said in an interview that he always couldn't wait to hear the next recording of this band. I remember on tv he had his outrageous wedding filmed. I only have their greatest hits and they don't disappoint ever.

Sly and the Family Stone at the Harlem Cultural Festival Sunday June 29, 1969


Entered at Fri Jul 18 11:23:13 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Generally, the last couple or three years, I find the very best theatre shows better than the vast majority of music shows as entertainment. Always start on time, no amplification issues, no one on stage is ever drunk or stoned.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 11:19:39 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bad Shows

Macy Gray … kept the audience waiting 90 minutes after the support act and was then extremely stoned and incoherent. Good band though.

Santana, circa 1976, as I've often said. Full stadium amplification full on in a smallish classical concert hall. Awful. Hot Chocolate a few days away (before or after?) were way, way better.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 08:14:09 CEST 2014 from (58.104.27.100)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I always thought Sly was strange even by the standards of rock musicians!


Entered at Fri Jul 18 05:53:04 CEST 2014 from (111.64.198.101)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Peter V, enjoyed the H&A review (more than you enjoyed the concert), and looked up the Sly Stone one too. According to Wikipedia:

'On August 16, 2011, the album I'm Back! Family & Friends was released. The album features re-recorded versions of Sly and the Family Stone's greatest hits with guest appearances from Jeff Beck, Ray Manzarek, Bootsy Collins, Ann Wilson, Carmine Appice, and Johnny Winter, as well as three previously unreleased songs. One month later, on September 25, 2011, the New York Post reported that Sly Stone was now homeless and living out of a white camper-van in Los Angeles: "The van is parked on a residential street in Crenshaw, the rough Los Angeles neighborhood where 'Boyz n the Hood' was set. A retired couple makes sure he eats once a day, and Stone showers at their house.'


Entered at Fri Jul 18 04:19:36 CEST 2014 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Bad Shows

1978-79. The Clubhouse on Merton Street in Toronto, Joe Cocker. First set, first song. Falls off the freaking stage drunk as a skunk. End of show.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 02:01:02 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

You're right! Sly Stone was way worst, but I don't think you can define that as a show. Falling into the audience, losing your wig and singing a different song to the band.


Entered at Fri Jul 18 01:20:36 CEST 2014 from (24.114.96.245)

Posted by:

Kevin J

......and somewhere Peter, Sly Stone will be heard saying........"Damn it.....and I had thought no one could make this reviewer more unhappy than me at a show"


Entered at Fri Jul 18 00:42:32 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Hall & Oates

This is probably the worst review I've given anyone. it starts out nice because I'm talking about 1974. Unfortunately, forty years have passed,


Entered at Thu Jul 17 19:45:35 CEST 2014 from (74.103.114.184)

Posted by:

Pete

Subject: Midnight Ramble 3

Just got a copy of The Midnight Ramble Vol. 3, sounds great. Understand that Levon helped pick out the tracks, truly well done. Congrats to the whole team. Levon, miss ya "brother".. "She tore it up and threw it in my face just for a laugh"....


Entered at Thu Jul 17 18:09:14 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Photos © John Gellman. All rights reserved.

"These photos of Bob Dylan were taken in January 1974 at a performance in Hollywood, Florida. Dylan hadn’t toured in eight years, so this tour with the Band was a really big deal at the time. It was a great show. Looking back, I don’t know what was wrong with me. I should have taken more pics of the Band, who were outstanding and very tight. Maybe I was conserving film. I can’t explain why I couldn’t seem to point my lens away from Bob. He was such a compelling presence."

DIANA - "These are great photos of Bob.

Yes, a compelling presence. I saw him Sunday night and every once in a while I’d remind myself there IS a band there too and take a quick glance. Inevitably in less than 30 seconds I’d be riveted on Bob again."


Entered at Thu Jul 17 18:05:45 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"I’ve posted eleven new shots since I last highlighted one of my old black and whites, so it’s time. Here’s an oldie of Rick Danko and Robbie Robertson performing with the Band in July 1974 at the Orange Bowl in Miami. This was the same day that began with the Eagles and Lynyrd Skynyrd. I’ve already posted shots of both those bands taken earlier in the day. Leon Russell followed the Band, but I don’t have a single shot from his set. Maybe I ran out of film. I just don’t remember. Regardless, it was a good day in Miami." (John Gellman)


Entered at Thu Jul 17 17:55:13 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band 1973...Marty Wolf

Kevin J...I'm off next month to visit one of Duf's former co-workers from back in the days of radio. He has a large farm house. We will be discussing the good old days...ha, ha....He never liked him as he was just as pompous then....and discussing sunshine tea (green rooibos, lemon myrtle, lemon vebena)....My favourite ice tea during the hot summer.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 17:52:43 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: For Goodness Sake...

...Kev's got the Blueberry Shakes

Made me howl that Kev

Ta

And a special ta for being so warm and enthusiastic about that extract I'd written. I kind of knew the fan and ELO bit would strike a chord with your goodself. Thing is when you create something, anything, whatever it happens to be you'd be lying to yourself if you didn't admit to enjoying reading or hearing someone saying they enjoyed it.

On a different tack, the points you and Jerry make about rock guitar dinosaurs and their impending extinction are sobering to the point of being completely demoralising. The significance hadn't registered till reading your posts. Reality invariably sucks.

And on another different tack, believe it or not, after god knows how many times and how many years of savouring every note of it, it only just dawned on me for some reason which I cannot begin to explain that it's Robbie singing the second verse of Ain't No More Cane on the Brazos.

Does that make it the only song where all four have taken a verse each? There's a few with three but I can't bring to mind another with all four.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 17:43:21 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: l'il dumpling

Kevin J: my logic processor also returned a "does not compute" on that one. "Your tax dollars at work," probably . . . .


Entered at Thu Jul 17 17:26:17 CEST 2014 from (24.114.96.245)

Posted by:

Kevin J

......woke up this morning to read that former news reader, dullard extraordinaire, former pal to our detestable PM, disgraced Senator tubby dubby Mike Duffy has what the press are describing as a "love child" with an exotic ex-con from Peru..........and I just had a blueberry shake and was discussing yoga.........something is wrong!!


Entered at Thu Jul 17 17:11:15 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Enigma

Kevin: I agree with you but I think the day of the 'new' rock star is already gone. If you define the rock star as a performer with a long record of persisting success who is 'front and centre' for decades or even years, I think that is already largely gone. The icons remain from the 60's and 70's (those who are still alive) and continue on with stage performances and new recordings. All the power to them! But, the new young talented individual performers have a more reserved approach. I think some of that relates to the technology around how music is given to the listener and a maturation of the entire process of popular music. If you look at the current guitar wizards who have achieved prominence (and they are every bit as good or better than those identified in the past), they would not be classified as 'rock stars' but rather as excellent artists. There are so many now who can write and play and do it so well. Moreover, I think that young people keep looking for 'the next new thing' in a way that we (over 60s) never did. I don't know if its a continuous unsatisfied desire for 'the next new thing' or a limited attention span or if boredom sets in more quickly. And while I'm at it and opining, commitment and loyalty to any artist is often short lived. Speaking personally, I have stayed committed to most who I have admired since the 60s, while adding artists to my cultural repertoire as the decades have passed. My impression (correct me if I'm wrong. I'm often wrong!) is that the younger crowd throws away what they loved recently. It is all part of a society that quickly tosses out the old (whether its a TV or a computer or a cell phone or a person with talent) in favour of the 'new'. To finish on a high note in the midst of this negativity, paradoxically, the artists who continue to emerge and create are superb. How both of these states of affairs continue to live side by side in tandem is one of the enigmas that perplexes and fascinates me.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 16:51:06 CEST 2014 from (24.114.96.245)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: "Play Some Guitar"

I enjoyed that RR-Clapton performance at the RRHOF..........nice to see that nod to TLW as well.............a bit of trivia ...when Eric Clapton introduced Robbie at the 2007 Crossroads guitar festival, he simply said "Play Some Guitar"..........some time last year while watching The Lost Waltz, I heard for the first time that Robbie had introduced Eric at The Last Waltz with simply "Play Some Guitar"..............I guess Eric wasn't as blasted that night as we had thought.

Sorry to hear about Johnny Winter............in 15 years or so, the "Rock Star" as we once knew and loved it will be gone for ever.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 15:20:24 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: John Dawson Winter

I saw Johnny Winter play in the early 70s? at Massey Hall and then again in downtown Toronto some years later. He was a master of the slide and we will not see the likes of him too often again.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 15:07:01 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The (Kind Of) Complete Woodstock: The Band

"Sandwiching The Band between Ten Years After and Johnny Winter on Woodstock’s closing night seems like an odd choice. Robertson, Helm, Danko, Hudson, and Manuel were brilliant players, but The Band’s music was far from the blistering, bluesy rock that preceded and followed their set.

But The Band was as big as they come in August 1969, near legends after the release of 1968′s Music From Big Pink. Their steeped-in-Americana vibe might not have had the energy of Alvin Lee’s “I’m Going Home,” but they undoubtedly deserved a plum spot in the billing.

For ten years they created achingly beautiful tone poems, blurry tintypes of a romanticized, lost America, and then they split for all of the reasons that every brilliant group of musicians eventually splits. Those same problems created a rift between Robertson and the rest of the group that couldn’t be bridged for The Band’s eighties reunion.

Time has a way of righting injustices, though. The majority of their set can be found on a bootleg named The Band: At Woodstock. The only song missing is “Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever,” and you’ll see below where to find that one.

Here’s The Band’s complete Woodstock set list and where to find official recordings:

1. Chest Fever
2. Don’t Do It
3. Tears Of Rage
4. We Can Talk About It Now
5. Long Black Veil (Woodstock: 25th Anniversary (CD))
6. Don’t Ya Tell Henry
7. Ain’t No More Cane on the Brazos (Across the Great Divide (CD))
8. Wheels On Fire
9. I Shall Be Released
10. The Weight (Woodstock: 25th Anniversary (CD))
11. Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever (Woodstock: 25th Anniversary (CD))


Entered at Thu Jul 17 14:57:12 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thanks sadavid.....My older brother had one 8-track of Johnny Winter's....Johnny Winter And which was recorded in 1970 with Rick Derringer and the McCoys.
I would especially listen to "Guess I'll Go Away" and "Prodigal Son". His most popular was Rock and Roll, Hoochie Koo. I forgot about Not Time To Live by Jim Capaldi and Steve Winwood. Johnny Winter was 70 and was to play Picton next week.....home of my favourite consignment store.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 14:29:34 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: RIP Johnny Winter

Johnny is the boss man . . . .


Entered at Thu Jul 17 13:04:58 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie McIntosh etc

A year or two back, we caught a (sort-of pick-up) band called "Blues Club" at a smallish hotel down near Selsey Bill:

http://bluesclubband.com/

As you can see from the link, Robbie McIntosh was on guitar. Danny Cummins and Guy Fletcher have both played with Dire Straits, Alan Rogan is best known as a guitar tech for people like the Stones and The Who, Peter Hope-Evans was with Medicine Head and William Topley (perhaps less well-known) has been on the music scene for 20 or so years and is a powerful frontman. The CD does not do justice to their live performance.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 12:12:57 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Bleeding Noses

Another review … Alt.country band The Bleeding Noses from South Wales, who were at the Larmer Tree as winners of the Breakthrough Band 2014 award. Very promising band indeed.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 06:15:24 CEST 2014 from (58.104.16.171)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Robbie playing with Clapton when Clapton was inducted in to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2000. Somehow I managed to miss seeing this video until today.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 03:00:54 CEST 2014 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Tom Jones concert

Thanks Peter, a great review and I'm fully green with wholesome envy -


Entered at Thu Jul 17 02:48:14 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Tom Jones review

My review of Tom Jones at the Larmer Tree Festival, 16th July 2014 is linked.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 01:36:06 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Kerrin

Thanks, Kerrin, for the answerrs regarding the shows in and around St Louis. I knew about "Slippin' and Slidin'" but wondered whether the attribution was well-founded, since I knew they'd done the song at the Mississippiu River Festival in 1969.


Entered at Thu Jul 17 00:32:53 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.135)

Posted by:

Bill M

"Music from the planet of the big pink apes" has a nice ring to it, no?


Entered at Wed Jul 16 11:33:34 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Ari-Apes

Saw the movie.Excellent.Fun.Good story.Started singing along in the movie theater!


Entered at Tue Jul 15 23:16:28 CEST 2014 from (74.66.18.74)

Posted by:

Ari

Web: My link

Subject: Planet of The Apes

I haven't seen it yet but apparently (according to my brother) there is only one song (not including score) in the new Planet of the Apes blockbuster.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 22:04:55 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

….and Al, you do know that there is a joke in there somewhere……….Pearly Gates…..evaluation day…hmm….God: “What do we have here? Helpers:…..”Well, fine guy Al is, wonderful father, dazzling writer, a fan Liverpool FC and The Band”…..God: “And, the negatives?” Helpers: “ahhh, well, there is rumours of fluffy dice and Bruce Springsteen”


Entered at Tue Jul 15 21:50:02 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Al Edge

If this place ever did close, I would miss a lot……..where on earth could you ever go again and have the pleasure of reading someone who admits to having purchased "fluffy dice" and in the same post cut right to the bone of emotion with a story of a friend that helped reveal how wonderful life could be beyond the neighbourhood block and the next win of a favourite sports team…………Great stuff Al…… I too was fortunate to have a friend in our neighbourhood who was almost 2 years older than the rest of our gang and… oh how we sat on every word of his adventures with neighbourhood dances (way before we were allowed near them ), with girls ( just a bit before we even knew we should be with them! ) and all sorts of other adventures he always seemed to get involved with before we did……….wonderful memories.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 20:59:13 CEST 2014 from (58.104.9.38)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I think it would be a great idea to document a lot of the stuff that people know here in a more formal way. As time goes on a lot of it is just going to get lost. Also, unlike a hard copy book, stuff on the internet can be updated, comments added etc. One of the things that is great about this site is that it is like a book, except it is one that is constantly being updated and changed.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 20:46:59 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you Todd......note that Amy Helm also performed TNTDODD at the festival on the weekend.....found at Todd's link below. Nice to see.....A truly great song.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 19:50:40 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: interview bits fro Rolling Stone Magazine......

Ginger working with Robbie........EC thought it had gone splendidly......

RS: Over the years, the idea of a Cream re-union keeps popping up.

EC "Well, it’s still a possibility, as long as we’re all alive. But it hinges on how much people change, and how much they don’t change. If we got back together, how far back would it go into the misery of what we experience? Would that come back with it? It scares the living daylights out of me, because there was a lot of hostility, a lot of aggression and a lot of unpleasant personality clashes. But I was speaking to Robbie Robertson recently about Ginger [Baker], and Robbie’s had some great experiences working with Ginger. But we’d have to do it for love and out of the desire to have a good time. Not for money."

Some other EC thoughts on RR and The Band from the same interview.....

RS Are there any other people you feel that way about?

EC "Yeah, the same with Robbie Robertson. If I sat down and thought for ten minutes about what he’s given me, I wouldn’t even be able to have coffee with him. I’d be awe-struck. I was devoted to the Band, and every song that he ever wrote for the Band had a profound effect on me. The story of the relationship in the song “The Moon Struck One” is so profound. It brings backs o many memories of my own childhood that is seems like Robbie must have been there. And when I see him, I just have to throw all that out the window and be who I am."

RS After “Music From Big Pink” cam out, you went to Woodstock and visited the Band.

EC "Yeah, I bumped into Robbie L.A., and he invited me to meet the guys in Woodstock. These guys looked like characters from the Hole in the Wall Gang. It was like Jesse James or something, Rock Danko showed up covered in plaster from his waist to the top of his head, as he’d just driven his car into a tree. These guys were the real thing, and I was touring with this band of psychedelic loonies. And it made me re-evaluate everything I stood for."


Entered at Tue Jul 15 16:10:20 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Greatest drummer stuff …

Midnight Rambles Volume 3 has been playing since it arrived three hours ago, so there's not much debate on "Greatest drummer".


Entered at Tue Jul 15 16:08:35 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Shake This Town

Ginger Baker is credited with "Skip snare" on Shake This Town. The drummer is John Robinson, and percussion is The Rebirth Brass Band. Mainly on the album, the percussion is added by Alex Acuna who was in Weather Report.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 15:53:56 CEST 2014 from (32.216.254.97)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Amy Helm - 'Heat Lightning'

Link above to a recent Amy Helm performance of 'Heat Lightning' in Pleasantville, NY.....Steamy!


Entered at Tue Jul 15 15:37:21 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Da Di De Day . . . .

. . . . is the ostensible title of a song (Rick vocal, as they say) from the "jam" portion of the Watkins Glen bootleg.

Whose song? Where does it come from?

It has a Louisiana vibe; could almost be a "New Mexicoe" prototype . . . Bobby Charles?


Entered at Tue Jul 15 15:34:13 CEST 2014 from (219.97.142.237)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: Ginger

Peter: Ginger is still credited with "percussion", so they kept at least bits of his tracks. I don't have Storyville handy, but maybe the credits specify what tracks Ginger appeared on, from that we may know who the drummer was who was asked to redo Ginger's parts.

I like Ginger's playing with Cream, but can't quite accept all that "greatest drummer ever" stuff that he likes to remind people of.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 15:24:15 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kerrin. I was about to say “Storyville” was recorded in NOLA, but you’re right … I just checked the sleeve. As well as two New Orleans studios, they list four California ones and a Scottish one (which would be overdubs phoned in).

I’ll have to say what I’m sure Eric Clapton thought when he scrapped Cream … Robbie Robertson was used to a different class of drummer. Levon Helm. And also Manu Katche.

On Storyville there are four or five different drummers, most often Jerry Marrota, so it seems likely they were casting around. I do like some Ginger things (though not that much), but it’s really not Robbie Robertson’s style. I saw Airforce back in the day and remember them as awful.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 14:51:02 CEST 2014 from (219.97.142.237)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Web: My link

Subject: Kevin J/Ginger Baker

Thanks for recommending the Ginger material, I had no idea that doco existed. The Chad Smith interview (see link) is painful to endure, interestingly at 37:44 there is a Robbie reference. I quote:

Ginger Baker: I banged into Robbie Robertson yesterday, he comes up and he's all sweet and nice and I said "oh"… Y'know they called me to do some sessions in LA with this fuckin' producer who's an absolute idiot, he's like putting bits of rubber between my hi-hat cos he didn't want the hi-hat, and…ahh…it was ridiculous. Anyway I did these tracks. The next I hear from another drummer, I forget his name, that they asked him to do the tracks because they didn't like what I did! And that point in my career was a pretty low point, it didn't do me a lot of good.

Presumably the sessions were for Storyville, and the idiot producer was Gary Gersh.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 14:14:39 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Band contrasts with Van Morrison, where "Wavelength" magazine ensured there are set lists and reviews for virtually every show once the magazine started. That was done as it took place. But when you're working back, I think JT is right. If there's a rumored show, add it until someone either adds information (which might be positive or negative).


Entered at Tue Jul 15 14:00:10 CEST 2014 from (219.97.142.237)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: Concert history

I'm all for working together to create a reasonably accurate document, but I did email many corrections to JT when the project was new. The additions got added but the cancelled shows, rumours and red herrings I had mentioned weren't removed. Including everything until it is disproved is one way to do the job, but I went about it the opposite way; not listing shows until I was fairly certain they actually took place.

My other reason for not tackling the existing list is that I feel obliged to justify my changes, and I rarely kept records of information that led to my corrections, may not even remember why I know what I know. That is a problem. But happy to make comments, and maybe this public forum is the way to do it, then others with knowledge can contribute.

I personally would limit my sphere of attention to the 1969-1978 period. The later lineups don't hold the same historic attraction to me, and The Hawks era, while certainly historic, is unlikely to ever be anywhere near complete. So I'll just give up on that at the outset!


Entered at Tue Jul 15 13:41:19 CEST 2014 from (65.189.212.146)

Posted by:

Calvin

Peter,

dbetree.org lists a "Band" show in Oklahoma City from 1965, which supposedly I have in my collection. And considering the Dallas show from June of 1965 is historically collaborated a couple dates in that part of the world would make sense.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 09:40:39 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Won't Get Fooled Again

Building up the concert database means people need to pass over information whenever they spot one.

The one I never found has been mentioned. In the 80s I was in NYC and chatting to a guy from my publisher. He said his brother had taped Levon & The Hawks in Kansas City in the 60s and still had the open reel and it was very good… there is no mention in any of the accounts of them having ever got to Kansas City, or even nearby, but it isn't illogical between Ontario and Oklahoma. Anyway, i diligently sent him copies of some rare British stuff he wanted and never heard again. At this remove, I'll file it mentally under "bullshit."


Entered at Tue Jul 15 05:48:54 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Flawed

Kerrin: Flawed with purpose, so that discussion will occur and corrections will be made and additions will be sent and ultimately, it will get closer to the truth. Many of the entries were made from innuendos and clues and hints without proof. You are correct. Lets all work to make it right.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 02:09:07 CEST 2014 from (219.97.142.237)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: Ian W

Ian, The Band played St Louis in October 1970, although I don't know the date. Sources for this were the Across The Great Divide box, which had one song - 'Slipping and Sliding' - from the show, and the Hoskyns book. It seems they began their fall tour with October shows in:

Alabama (Univ of Alabama)

Memphis (Ellis Auditorium)

St Louis (Keil Auditorium)

before moving into the better-documented November run beginning with a great show in Pittsburg on the 1st.

Mississippi River Festival was July 14, 1969, and August 11, 1970. I thought it suspect that they would be guests at the same festival two years running but there is evidence to show that this is correct.

The concert history on this site is flawed, not for what is missing, but for the number of events listed that almost certainly didn't happen. However, I certainly don't claim to have all the answers...!


Entered at Tue Jul 15 01:39:11 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.139)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: First, I hope your link is to the Move's original "Do Ya" and not the inferior ELO one! Second, thanks for the Rick James tip / mention. As has been noted previously by others, in another interview James credited Garth and Robbie with helping him on Yonge Street. The Morrison bit aside, the Stills story seems more likely to have taken place in '72, when Bruce Palmer arranged for Stills to put up Rick's Toronto band, the Great White Cane (Pat B: with Ed Roth), while they we're in LA recording their excellent MGM album with Jimmy Ienner.

The outstanding Toronto B&E charge is something that had come back to bite him in '67, after he'd gotten out of the naval brig and the navy, returned to put together a new Mynah Birds, returned to Motown to record with them and returned to Toronto to find someone to replace the guitarist. At that point the police came calling, Rick was temporarily unavailable, the other Mynah Birds found a guitarist they liked - Bruce Cockburn - and they decided to leave Rick en masse.

As for the Clinton episode, that seems likely to have taken place in '71 / '72, when both were in Toronto and Rick's Heaven and Earth, the proto-Great White Cane, couldn't get beyond a two-45 licensing deal with RCA Canada. Clinton had moved his team up from Detroit to get away from the drug scene, had taken on a Toronto bassist, Prakash John, had absorbed a Toronto-based US band called United Star (Gary Shider, Bernie Worrell et al) into Funkadelic and was about to record the brilliant "America Eats its Young" with Toronto singers and musicians in backing roles - notably Dianne Brooks and Steve Kennedy, both of whom had worked with various of our guys.

To change topics entirely, a listen to Handsome Ned's cover of "Long Black Veil" (on his posthumous album issued by Other People's Music - Band connection) made me realise (belatedly to an embarrassing degree) that it's built an awful lot like "The Weight".

Pat B: That reminds me to thank you for supplying the like to Tributosaurus (?) doing the "Abbey Road" thing. Did you work any Weighty vestiges into "Carry That Weight" / "And In The End"?


Entered at Tue Jul 15 01:16:50 CEST 2014 from (58.104.17.42)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I thought The Corrs were a terrific band and this was one of their best songs. Sad that they stopped recording together. Band connection: combining old and new things together to make great music.


Entered at Tue Jul 15 01:08:35 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Footy, ELO, cassettes and stuff are what dreams are made of

After reading back over the past few weeks on the GB with the footy and stuff, I simply couldn't NOT stick this snatch from the book I was writing some years back. Never did get round to finishing it....

“Girl there’s a better life for me and you…”

Whether the football fixation that seemed to afflict us was as all-consuming an affair as it might on the face of it have appeared is a moot point. Our adulation may well have been unconditional and our glory indeed dependent on what our hero did on the pitch. However, the celebration was hardly a wholesale vicarious experience.

On the contrary, we were heavily involved in what was taking place. What we partook in was very real.

A fan may never actually kick a ball in anger for his or her team. However, the fact that they have invariably “lived” that team for infinitely longer than most of the players who actually don the jersey provides all the entitlement such a fan needs to enjoy such occasions every bit as rapturously as any player. In fact it could be argued that in many ways the players themselves are merely a conduit for the fans’ pleasure or displeasure. A means to an end with the fans the real incumbents; happy or unhappy, satisfied or dissatisfied as the case may be.

Daft as it may seem, perhaps the players count only in as far as they represent that lifeblood of the club they play for.

Namely us. The fans.

True, they may actually be living out what many of us dream. That, however, is as far as the vicarious element of such fandom extends.

All that said, none of this could ever make the likes of myself any less of a hopeless case. Whether involuntarily or not I was steeped in adoration of my own blessed hero.

And there was one I followed like some besotted blind disciple. Fact was I was up to my red neck in Kenny Dalglishness. I was a complete and utter Dalglish nut if ever there was one.

The adoration I felt went back to the day he signed. I can recall dancing an impromptu jig of joy with my faithful hound Albie on hearing the news of his arrival. The prospect of possessing a player like him had stimulated me like no other up to then. His capture really did seem to carry a special significance. For me there seemed to be personal ramifications too. Kenny was my age almost to the day. In itself that possibly caused me to reflect on where we both fitted into the overall scheme of things. Indeed, the fact that I identified with him so much may well have said as much about my aspirations still to make it as a footballer as it did about my hero-worshipping of him.

Who knows, perhaps there was even a tinge of envy.

Like many other lads reared on a daily diet of footy - morn, noon and night - I was not exactly devoid of talent. Clearly nowhere near so much as Kenny possessed in a single clipping from one of his golden toenails. Yet given the amount of games I had under my belt it would have meant something was inherently wrong if I had not been at least a teeny weeny bit proficient. The thing is, as utterly ridiculous as it may sound, many of us do secretly harbour delusions that with the right coaching, training and breaks the opportunity of making it as a footballer could still arise. Psychoanalysts term it the Napoleon Bonaparte syndrome if I’m not mistaken. Good night Josephine!

Still, by the late seventies with a growing family - and with other more daunting commitments about to hit me firmly between the eyes - I was finally beginning to acquire some sense of reality. Scoring the winner every night at Wembley was no longer on the agenda. My football sorties now tended to be restricted to watching my beloved Reds and playing five-a-sides. Indeed if the truth be known I suppose I had begun to believe there was not much more to life per se.

That was until I chanced to befriend a character called Stevie Redmond.

Stevie played five-a-side with us around this time. He was a hefty defender who wore sunglasses when he played and sported a curly perm big enough to insulate a loft. Stevie used to give us a lift to the games in his massive Ford Zephyr - a car so spacious you felt as if you’d actually landed in America when you climbed in. It was kitted out like one of those hippy love wagons, lined throughout with oceans of kitsch leopard skin, huge fluffy dice seemingly everywhere. And smack in the middle of the dashboard sat a massive 8 track cartridge player the size of a microwave oven. You would hear Stevie’s car approaching from half a dozen streets away as it bleared out the love of his musical life - The Electric Light Orchestra. They say dog owners get to resemble their faithful hounds. Well, in Stevie’s case, it was Jeff Lynne of ELO.

Neither was outlandish taste in car interiors Stevie’s only idiosyncrasy. Quite simply, Stevie was not your bog standard sort of guy. He had other strings to his bow. An entire orchestra of them.

We would all listen open-mouthed as he used to regale us with extravagant tales of his lifestyle. Water skiing, sub-aqua diving, hang-gliding, parachute jumping, sky diving. The list seemed endless. Five-a-side footy may well have been the physical highlight of our week. To Stevie it was the equivalent of sharing a mug of cocoa with his granny.

The fact was his sense of adventure had alerted us to the very real possibility of ordinary working class lads enjoying a life beyond work, family and football. Following Stevie’s creed meant there would no longer be any need for Kenny Dalglish to represent the be-all and end-all of that life. Stevie was the living proof it could be lived in the fast lane, enjoyed by anybody prepared to give it a try.

Not surprisingly, given my predilection for having my head turned, within a few weeks of exposure to Stevie my cranium had indeed been twisted round some 360 degrees. I had made the decision to follow Stevie Redmond into the fast lane.

Casting caution to the wind I went for broke. I bought a copy of ELO’s Greatest Hits and immediately followed it up by investing in a pair of fluffy windscreen dice. “What the hell have you bought those for?”, asked Mag, my dear wife. “We haven’t even got a bloody car.” My illusions were shattered. Women just don’t get it do they?

At that precise moment I determined never again to question the ultimate significance in my life of Kenny Dalglish and his goals.

:-0)


Entered at Mon Jul 14 23:57:02 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Do Ya

....one of my favourites from the cassette era..........also one of the better concerts remembered from my teenage years.


Entered at Mon Jul 14 21:16:17 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Mid-fi glory.. Indeed!…..funny how technology has rendered so much of what we thought was important to document as unnecessary…….scrambling around for that empty or half-empty cassette or VHS tape to tape something and looking the whole time just to make sure the Rec button was down……..along comes YouTube and those boxes of tapes didn’t really count for much after all……I had TLW on VHS tape for years and watched it so many times that by the time I actually purchased a DVD it was almost like watching a new movie……the VHS taped off TV early 80’s had no picnic table evident in the Robbie-Levon interview bits – back yard at Shangri-La…………..only thing I miss from the cassette tapes I had made were some really good interviews on FM radio………Richie Blackmore in a particularly obnoxious mood arriving at CHOM FM in Montreal after a show ( around midnight ) lecturing the lady DJ on how any song could be a hit if the station played it enough……..This was mid 70’s - years before FM radio was ruined by consultants that introduced “programming” and proved Blackmore’s point…..at the time what he was saying seemed insane to me.


Entered at Mon Jul 14 18:27:09 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Questions about Band concerts (and a note on cassettes)

The questions:

Did The Band actually play a concert in St Louis in 1970? The list on this website says "69 or 70". Does anyone know for sure?

And, since the Mississippi River Festival took place in Edwardsville, across the river in East St Louis, has there been some kind of confusion here?

Cassettes:

Though I have been junking a few of late, I still have 100s of cassettes :- a fair number of official releases; very few indeed that are dubs of official albums,; many, many radio shows recorded off-air (concerts and documentaries); some unofficial concert recordings from the days when this was they way one exchanged recordings with other collectors; a few offical promo cassettes, mostly Dylan but not all; ; 10 Columbia Radio Hour cassettes, if anyone remembers that (again official cassettes, not dubs). And, yes, I still play them from time to time - in all their mid-fi glory!


Entered at Mon Jul 14 16:51:41 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Taping off the radio

I remember those days back in the 70s. I figured out quickly which djs & radio stations to listen to.

My favourite was taping off the Mary Turner show (this was on Armed Forces Radio back in the 70s when I lived in Europe) she kept the talking to a minimum and never spoke over a song. I got to tape off the King Biscuit Flour Hour, too.

I really liked listening to Wolfman Jack, but never taped off his show.

Also I remember there was one local Italian private radio station where the DJ would play an entire album once a week during his weekly show (I think it was on a Thursday afternoon), so he'd let the listeners in on what was coming up a few days before. Being Italian it was a lot of prog. I think he also took requests, too. I never phoned in.

I found in using normal cassettes (when taping LPs) that by putting the setting on my deck to metal I'd get a good clean sound upon playback of the cassette.


Entered at Mon Jul 14 16:50:28 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Here's a nice review of the new Levon Ramble Vol 3 release.


Entered at Mon Jul 14 11:48:29 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Football

Watching the final last night was interesting. My 9 year old grandson found the production difficult, and it annoyed me too. Yes, repeat a goal attempt from another angle, but just the once. They kept going back to it, so by the time they went "live" again you'd missed 30 seconds. It spoils the flow for me. However, I have found the next England manager. Mrs V is a natural. She found all passing to the wings irritating and urged both teams to kick it up the middle. This is a philosophy which will sit well with the Football Association's preferences.


Entered at Mon Jul 14 11:20:47 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Towards the very end of the cassette era, you could get a decent sound if you had (say) a Nakamichi deck and used expensive metal tape … but the high end tapes have printed through worse than early thick Philips Ferric Oxide tapes. We used to master spoken voice recordings on Revox open reel, then make cassette copy masters onto a Nakamichi for bulk cassette copying. Very expensive and not really worth it as the copies were on ordinary tape. In fact Memorex did tapes designed for language laboratories and audio libraries which were extra durable tape, but which had restricted frequency range which was OK for spoken voice. They were also red on one side blue on the other, so highly distinctive and not on general sale, which restricted theft. Somewhat.

A few years later I was visiting a TV station that put advertising soundtracks on leaderless audio cassettes and they had a bank of cheap £100 cassette decks. As they said, there were basically three levels of tape head, and the true virtue of expensive machines was speed accuracy. Cheap decks were accurate enough for about a year, then they threw them out … literally into the trash. As they said you could buy 15 cheap decks for one Nakamichi.


Entered at Mon Jul 14 06:21:55 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

I have no fond memories of cassettes. always sounded muddy to me and you had to fast forward to the track you wanted or to start from the beginning again. I like LPs just for their mechanical nature - especially those autoloaders which the purists hate.


Entered at Mon Jul 14 00:22:06 CEST 2014 from (58.104.7.190)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I know some people have complaints about digital sound but that old technology was really bad. Even when they were new LPs used to have all kinds of irritating surface noise and pressing faults. Cassettes were some improvement in the sense that you just got a consistent background hum but they were so irritating to use. I am completely happy with even mp3 quality sound.


Entered at Sun Jul 13 19:50:49 CEST 2014 from (24.114.70.174)

Posted by:

Kevin J

A few things worthy of note:

*The death of Tommy Ramone this week...... Now all four are gone......"End of the Century - The Story of The Ramones" is a rock doc well worth watching.

*"Beware of Mr. Baker" - the finest rock documentary of the last 25 years.......no doubt in that statement .......but if anyone is in the mood to see one of the most pathetic - almost hilarious - interview/profiles in recent memory, do saunter over to Expecting Rain and click on the link "In conversation with Chad Smith and Ginger Baker".......to witness an example of sycophantic looniness that is ussually the reserve of that drooling fool Billy ( don't you dare call me an actor ) Bob Thorton.

*Cassettes: Thank you Kerrin for stirring up some fine memories.......exactly as it happenned.

*On the topic of Expecting Rain........also check out the link today on Rick James......connections abound to The Band, our own Bill M and other TLW folks.


Entered at Sun Jul 13 16:57:11 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: cassettes

… or the first few bars missing because you put in a new tape and forgot about the leader tape. I had a whole stack of "leaderless" cassettes we used for stage sound effects. They were designed for adverts on radio, so were about two minutes a side. I noticed Rough Trade in Brooklyn had a sole section of new cassettes and there's a magazine from San Francisco dedicated to cassettes with a cover mount cassette too. But of course they'll never be that collectible as most will have printed through.


Entered at Sun Jul 13 15:05:43 CEST 2014 from (111.64.215.22)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Called..."Music, music, music" I believe, by Teresa Brewer. I too enjoyed this as a child, I taped it off the radio and played it endlessly. This was in the early 80's, mind. Didn't we all have those cassettes full of songs with the first half verse missing? That scramble to find a blank space on a tape when "Layla" came on the air unexpectedly. The first half, not the second half.


Entered at Sun Jul 13 11:48:15 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Nickelodeon song

I haven't heard that song in years. My Mum used to sing it when I was young.


Entered at Sat Jul 12 15:34:51 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Peter M

Hey Peter! good to hear from you. I remember that, what I had in my mind was the old Nickelodeon song remember?

Put another nickel in - in the nickelodeon,

All I want is lovin you and music,music,music....


Entered at Sat Jul 12 15:12:16 CEST 2014 from (83.249.135.136)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: The Band gb

On a serious side... Wallsend saw that there was something unproportional in Mr. Dener's reaction on my post. He posted a link which showed this unproportionality. Furthermore he was interested in Mr. Helm's economical situation. Even Webmaster himself had a link attached in this site which pointed to 'Levon Helm Trust'. It was there for several weeks, wasn't it. - Nothing controversial in these posts so far, in my opinion. I am sure that webmaster - as an respected academic person - understands the controverse between owning a tribute site and a site which is documenting even unpleasant history.

Peter V would not go to the history of rock literature by writing a book of The Band. He would definitely go to the history of Internet with a book 'History of gb'. Even ROCKIN CHAIR can read in this (hopefully) coming drama why I call myself for 'NorthWestCoaster' (except the obvious: I live on northwestern coast) You'll get a good laugh :-)

...sorry gotta go now to a WW2 military airport where BOB DYLAN's private jet will land any minute.


Entered at Sat Jul 12 14:21:15 CEST 2014 from (81.107.236.227)

Posted by:

Roger

Subject: Hi there Wallsend

Good to hear from you Wallsend. I'll be in Sydney over xmas and will look out for this outfit.


Entered at Sat Jul 12 03:40:21 CEST 2014 from (58.104.8.245)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I came across this site the other day.


Entered at Fri Jul 11 15:20:57 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Amy Helm @ Kate Wolf Festival


Entered at Fri Jul 11 13:14:15 CEST 2014 from (83.249.135.136)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: TUGS-TUGS-TUGS!

ROCKIN CHAIR may forgive my subject line but this is about tugs instead of music. - Swedish public service TV showed an old documentary on tugs. Actually, it was not old at all because it was from the early eighteens, something. These men were absolutely cool. They had time to salute girls on the beaches, notice new curtains in summer cottages and keep the ship clean. They had nerves to stay cool in autumn storms when they waited in some bay for a better weather for several days. Everything went really s-l-o-w!


Entered at Fri Jul 11 12:16:47 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: I have no interest in sports

Subject: Hey Norm

As the big AM radio stations used to broadcast in the 60's, "More music, more music, more music..."


Entered at Fri Jul 11 02:12:29 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: MUSIC-MUSIC-MUSIC!!!!!!!

Down the road-down the road-down the road a piece....yer all a bunch a gawd damn crazies!

I just came home from working on the Rockin Chair, she's up in the yard under a shed getting a new aft deck skin fibre glassed on. It was old and leaked like hell. Mean while I got a couple of days at home, so I'm down there sanding the teak deck getting ready to varnish.

Just a stones throw from our shack is the big fair grounds where Bonnie Raite, the Mavericks and all will kick off this weekend. It is something to see the huge field that is now filling with 5th wheel trailers, campers and all. I had hoped to have time to stop over there, but I had to get my boat out while there was a spot available.

Got to be ready for a cruise in August after I get finished some jobs. Hope every one is having a happy summer.

Jan, keep the music keeping on as we fade into the sunset. If ever the need is to close up shop, and I'm not around, it's been a great ride. Meeting a lot of great people. Learning a lot, and not just about music. There has been a lot of fine minds expressing them selves here over the years.


Entered at Thu Jul 10 22:54:50 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Hoops?

Am I the only one hyper interested in free agency moves and moves to come in the NBA? Probably!


Entered at Thu Jul 10 19:57:07 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin, We remarked during the game that if England had got that far, they might have run around like headless chickens but they definitely would have been entertaining and committed. Apart from the penalty, Messi didn't do anything to impress. The Argentineans got a couple of bad knocks too … in contrast to no stoppages in my memory in Germany-Brazil. With a day less rest, and 30 minutes of extra time for Argentina, the Germans are going in with an advantage. Apart from just being a better team. The advantage that was designed for Brazil, I guess.


Entered at Thu Jul 10 19:13:40 CEST 2014 from (70.53.45.226)

Posted by:

Kevin J

……actually, the England-Uruguay match may have been the best one of the tournament……..The big, recent ones have been dreadful…….exactly the sort of stuff the mainstream sports media in North America point to in their never-ending campaign against the sport…too bad………ya just knew Holland was done yesterday when that big lumbering mid-fielder was chosen to take the first penalty kick and he blubbered it………now thinking that Germany might just smoke Argentina in the final. Hope not as I would like to see Messi win.

This sort of Football talk is likely to keep RTO further away but hope he returns as nobody can add musical energy the way he can…………anyone following the Dylan set-lists……interesting stuff in that he has been playing the exact same songs for months night in night out – but reverts to a ( sort-of ) greatest hits presentation in certain stops.


Entered at Thu Jul 10 15:07:24 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

As no one is talking music … my goodness, that was a boring game last night. We were supporting The Netherlands, but by the 80th minute we wanted ANYONE to score just to save us from the tedium of extra time, which as we predicted turned out to be just as dull as the first 90 minutes. Chalk and cheese compared to Brazil / Germany. Hope the final is better!


Entered at Wed Jul 9 16:09:48 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: And a Bob video from the same source ...

http://www.musicvault.com/bob-dylan/video/san-francisco-bay-blues_1010042.html


Entered at Wed Jul 9 15:59:51 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: A few Band/Levon videos - official!

These videos may well be already available but, in case not, I thought I'd post them here:

http://www.musicvault.com/the-levon-helm-band/video/the-same-thing-incomplete_1005361.html

http://www.musicvault.com/the-band/video/dont-do-it_1010319.html


Entered at Wed Jul 9 12:42:06 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Dunno why it's "soul searching" anyway. Sack the manager,. Rebuild for 2018 … it's what we should have done.


Entered at Wed Jul 9 11:55:25 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Brazil

I feel for Brazil as well. Having watched the All Blacks exiting a couple of Rugby World Cups early I can feel their pain. Like The South (and The All Blacks) they will rise again.


Entered at Wed Jul 9 09:20:21 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Soul searching

I woke up to the radio alarm and thought the Average White Band were back on top of the charts, as Soul Searching was mentioned six times in five minutes, in relation to the game last night. It is the new football cliche, which is better than 'they're sick as a parrot' from the 80s.

I sympathize, but Brazil are like England in the late 60s where we thought we had invented football so had a right to win. I remember that feeling, long gone (except at club level) now. There is more to life than football. Good lesson.


Entered at Wed Jul 9 09:14:36 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Calvin, I mainly let my blog auto-post on Facebook and connect back, though not always. I keep meaning to follow advice to use it more, but I like this forum more.


Entered at Wed Jul 9 04:43:06 CEST 2014 from (65.189.212.146)

Posted by:

Calvin

Peter,

I have a regular Facebook Page, where Ive long held to a 250 limit rule that I recently broke because of the onslaught of family seeking information on My Dad's Health.

But I also have an Author Page, which Ive not really utilized much-but its there. And finally with the last book I created a Facebook Page for just the book. Much like yourself Ive had the experiences where publishers and other "Experts" act as if I'm insane if I dont cover the world with every sort of social media possible.

One interesting byproduct, as I write specifically history of a certain region, is my Facebook page for books generates stories I hadn't come across and occasionally some new ideas.


Entered at Wed Jul 9 04:08:03 CEST 2014 from (24.199.71.83)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Rambles Volume 3

Jed, great to hear you're enjoying. My copy is in the mail... looking forward!


Entered at Wed Jul 9 03:23:17 CEST 2014 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: much music

Casino Arena 07/20/76. All time sing-a-long??


Entered at Wed Jul 9 02:14:55 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Volume 3

Great music.Interesting choices.I could see why Levon might have had a particular history with and interest in these songs.Soulful sound.Like the Rambles.Levon is of strong voice-beautiful to hear him.Very moving.


Entered at Wed Jul 9 01:57:19 CEST 2014 from (24.114.70.174)

Posted by:

Kevin J

True story.......just left a liqour store where the guy in front of me wearing a Neymar shirt was turned away from purchasing substantial amounts of booze due to him not having any identification (he looked about 40 - only in Ontario for Chr*stsake!)......talk about a day going from bad to worse - for him that is.

Jon L: I hope you are right.........so many times over the years landing in so many cities and invariably I would find myself tuning into this place and would ussually have a good 45 minutes or so of reading - especially true if a few days catch-up was at play.......Music always, comments on the news of the day ( usually more informed and entertaining than what could be found in a newspaper ) and in the glory days a provocative post or two or three from Steve describing how he had uncovered another right wing conspiracy.....now there was a guy that didn't mind being howled at!


Entered at Wed Jul 9 00:24:18 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Semi final

As the poet says, "Some you lose, others you get completely fuc*ing stuffed."


Entered at Wed Jul 9 00:00:34 CEST 2014 from (77.156.192.26)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Semi final


Entered at Tue Jul 8 19:31:18 CEST 2014 from (83.249.128.141)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: jh's sentiments

Can it be so harmless that webmaster's melancholic sentiments have been caused by a visit in Scandlines ferry shop on his way to Denmark?


Entered at Tue Jul 8 15:59:32 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Excellent article. Do read the bit on John & Beverley Martyn towards the end:

“Over the years I received a broken nose, a fractured inner ear and hairline fractures of the skull. One night he smashed a chair over me and my arm was damaged when I put it up to protect my head from the force of the blow. John wouldn’t even let me call a doctor, let alone go to the hospital… ‘Get back into bed,’ he’d snarled, ‘or I’ll throw the baby out of the window.’”

It does affect your perception of the man! As an antidote, find "The Phoenix & The Turtle", Beverley Martyn's new album which I have been playing more than anything else the last two months. The voice sounds its age, but it's SO expressive. Lyrics are great.


Entered at Tue Jul 8 15:40:29 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: rock stars' wives

Alexandra Molotkow article on the sorry lot of the muse - reflections on the lives and memoirs of Cynthia Lennon, Patti Boyd, Marianne Faithfull et al.


Entered at Tue Jul 8 15:27:02 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Jed, that just means you've got 86 Facebook friends, but I've got 87, so there! There are people on Facebook with 6000 or more "friends." Though I think we need a new definition, as I went to a Society of Authors talk on publicity, and rule one is "Accept all requests to be friends on Facebook."


Entered at Tue Jul 8 14:27:39 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Kevin-Facebook

Amazing how many people were duped into Facebook.Fake friendships,pictures that too often belong hidden away,illusory communities,and a chance to show the world that one hasn't progressed in maturity beyond high school.At least the minimal nature of the GB affords people not to humiliate themselves beyond their words and a chance to focus on real life.Technology has and will continue to create great human tragedies in the interest of assumed progress.


Entered at Tue Jul 8 11:04:40 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Enjoy the show, Jan. One gets used to looking like the grandparents in any crowd. However, as I found out recently, you can go terribly wrong when you see someone your age and chat assuming they're the grandparent of the two kids they're with. They turn out to be the parent. Most embarrassing.


Entered at Tue Jul 8 10:44:29 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Not a relic

Jan, relic / museum? No … "a classic" as in "Music from Big Pink, Blonde on Blonde and Revolver are classic albums." That design is a classic too. Every other website seems over-fussy to me. It does what it does perfectly.

I was about to post anyway on this … this place has always been remarkably freewheeling. The problem was the tendency of a dedicated bunch of posters to fall like a ton of bricks on people they disliked … and this is a bunch who otherwise don't post too. The administration has always been "only interfere when it gets out of hand".

In comparison, the Blogosphere is nowhere near as good. On my blog, once you've had a comment approved once, you go through for later ones. Blogs have to be "pre-moderated" because of the number of SPAM posts which start, 'I am loved yours great article. You are genius blogger! Keep for the good work" from "Hank in Chicago" though it turns out Hank is posting from Uzbekistan and his link goes to "20 Things to Do with a Cucumber and Other Photos". The theatre blogs I connect to are good about accepting adverse criticism in general, as I am. (For theatre fans, I have reviews of The Crucible, Bring Up The Bodies, Julius Caesar and Antony & Cleopatra all just up after a busy weekend in London).

Music sites tend much more to control freaks who accept comments like "That was brilliant" but will reject "That was brilliant, but in fact Sergeant Pepper was 1967, not 1971 as you said in your article."

I think the underlying architecture of this Guestbook has stood the test of time. Very little SPAM gets through, those Spellcasters keep trying. I have to say they're very good though. I have found five lost wives that I didn't know I had and now have $4 billion deposited in a bank in Nigeria (or so they tell me).


Entered at Tue Jul 8 09:23:36 CEST 2014 from (91.143.127.130)

Posted by:

jh

This place has been an old relic/museum for years now, frozen in its (still mostly functioning) '90s look and software, with few updates except for the GB. We're very happy to see so many people, some of them still young and eager, keeping the torches burning in social media and elsewhere, as this site and its editors and users fade away into internet history. It has been a mostly good run, though, reaching the 20 year mark in October 2014. Who would've thought it, when we first put our humble album scans and track lists and bios and photos on-line from a 386 server in 1994, that we one day should look back on a massive site and all those wonderful memories of meeting Band members and key players, and making and visiting friends all over the world? Not to mention all the incredible gigs, and the people that captured places in our hearts and will stay there for as long as we're around. Hm... we're going old and soft and sentimental here -- time to head for Copenhagen airport and get to Paris for another festival show from our favorite electro artist. The one here in Denmark, at the massive Roskilde Fest, was lovely, even if we could've been the grandparents of most of the crowd there.


Entered at Tue Jul 8 05:07:13 CEST 2014 from (67.84.77.46)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Yeah,if Jon's right. just picture the Gb when people have onset alzheimers......... enough left to log in, and start typing, return from wherever their mind may have gone and remember to hit the submit button....OF course, some smart aleck will take a pot shot at one of us now


Entered at Tue Jul 8 04:38:07 CEST 2014 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

Bonk

It sort of makes you afraid to say anything. I've been banned or deleted so many times and I always ask myself, what did I just say that was offensive???? I love this site but sometimes it's so restrictive I could puke.


Entered at Tue Jul 8 04:37:09 CEST 2014 from (24.199.71.83)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Kevin, the GB will rise again.


Entered at Mon Jul 7 23:59:32 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The old trouble was that the United League of Admirers of Blandness (Life President: … well, fill in the gap) crawl out of the woodwork to attack any new poster with humor, or strong views or unusual comments. Then … Bumbles, Crabgrass, Wallsend, Donald … a dozen others … find better things to do than be howled at.


Entered at Mon Jul 7 23:30:34 CEST 2014 from (64.229.147.152)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: I mean, Bumbles

Sorry man, mea typo, if you're looking in . . . .


Entered at Mon Jul 7 23:26:09 CEST 2014 from (64.229.147.152)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Yes, good point indeed, Kevin J. Personally, I miss those good old days when Wallsend stirred things up a bit. When was that, anyway? And where did he go? To GB purgatory? And Bumbes, fine fellow. And . . . and . . . .

Ah, man, those were the times.


Entered at Mon Jul 7 22:58:36 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Good point, Kevin. Glad you missed a review of July 4th postings though as that was distorted over the years by people mentioning the first line of "Tears of Rage" year after year. Was this the first year no one mentioned it?

The CSNY 1974 box set is out today. Haven't ordered it as controversy rages because it's nearly twice the price on amazon uk as on amazon usa. It seems sense to wait until the uk price falls a bit.


Entered at Mon Jul 7 21:17:39 CEST 2014 from (24.114.70.174)

Posted by:

Kevin J

July 5-6 2013, this GB had 68 posts...........same period this year: 2.

....So the battle is over, twitter and Facebook win......I wish Luis Suarez could bite everyone that prefers "likes" and all forms of abbreviated gobbledygook over what this place used to be.


Entered at Mon Jul 7 20:47:59 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon L

Location: NYC

Yes, happy birthday Robbie!


Entered at Sun Jul 6 16:58:40 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: JRR happy birthday

Robbie Robertson: all the best on July 5, 2014. Looking forward to the bio of a class act who made a big difference. Happy birthday!


Entered at Sat Jul 5 00:33:19 CEST 2014 from (24.199.71.83)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Garth & Maud live in CA?

Did anyone attend Garth and Maud's set at the Kate Wolf Festival last week? Very interested in their setlist & any videos that might surface. Link is to Garth backing Los Lobos from the same festival.


Entered at Fri Jul 4 20:00:57 CEST 2014 from (96.232.159.74)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: GBere who is not NWer......

Any time


Entered at Fri Jul 4 12:05:07 CEST 2014 from (83.249.129.225)

Posted by:

Gber who is not Westcoaster

Location: Scania northwest, The Sound

Subject: Typos / Joan

I have the same problem as Joan - but the other way round. Fingers know what to do but brain won't co'operate. Someday maybe we'll join us in collective posting with the handle 'Pearls Of Sound'. Intelligent gbers will certainly understand the double meaning in this handle.


Entered at Fri Jul 4 06:37:47 CEST 2014 from (68.199.209.167)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: "Only Hudson..................."

"Only Hudson..................." See the link


Entered at Fri Jul 4 06:31:28 CEST 2014 from (68.199.209.167)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: With the Bottle Rockets, LIVE

Crenshaw has been teaming up with The Bottle Rockets (the pride of Festus, Missouri) the last few years. Linked is a live version of Crying Time . The Bottle Rockets been going the other way as I. From St Louis To Brooklyn, and back and forth. Their first record, The Brooklyn Side, was recorded by Albert Caiti, at his now defunct Coyote Studio. Same place, same engineer i first recorded with.


Entered at Fri Jul 4 05:43:33 CEST 2014 from (68.199.209.167)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Crying Time (Calling Out For Love At Crying Time)

The whole recording is a masterpiece. this video doesn't have great sound, but the recording is a masterpiece of production, songwriting, and playing. This is one i wore out a few times. Listened to endlessly in thse car. THe whole recording is great, but Crying time is one of thos e excpetional songs.


Entered at Fri Jul 4 05:28:46 CEST 2014 from (68.199.209.167)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Closing Time

Video linked


Entered at Fri Jul 4 00:41:25 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Suzanne Vega

My review of tonight's Suzanne Vega concert in Poole. The tracks from her new album, all six of them, were outstandingly good.


Entered at Fri Jul 4 00:16:04 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.153)

Posted by:

bill M

Moe Berg, I believe.


Entered at Thu Jul 3 19:47:47 CEST 2014 from (96.232.159.74)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Typos

Bill M The brain knows what to do but the fingers won't cooperate. :-)


Entered at Thu Jul 3 17:42:38 CEST 2014 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

BEG, the Harris book is pretty bad. After reading two new Dylan titles, the Dylanologists and Bob Dylan: The Biography, both well-written and very entertaining, the new Band book is strictly grade school. I read 20% of it before there was anything about the Band. The organization is confusing, he overuses words like "would" (They would go on to rule the world), and he inserts himself as a character in his own book, constantly making references like "Rick Danko told me that..." I'm going to slog this one out, but it's not like reading a pro.


Entered at Thu Jul 3 17:11:44 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Yeah! Canadian Country Rock Musicians: Neil Young, Richard Manuel, Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Rick Danko, Charlie Angus, Jim Cuddy, Bob Wiseman

Ahhh.....Lol..... "Please note that the content of this book primarily consists of articles available from Wikipedia or other free sources online."

As for Harris' book on The Band...bought for around 20.00....I received it a few weeks ago and the first thing that bothered me was the quality of the paper used for photos in the book.....I can't seem to get into it as it's not for the seasoned The Band fan. Any thoughts from others?


Entered at Thu Jul 3 16:51:46 CEST 2014 from (24.114.70.174)

Posted by:

Kevin J

TPOH: Enjoyed some unexpected and extended success across the pond as many kids in England thought he was singing "I'm on the Dole Now" and related more to that than just being an adult......The Canadiann accent was blamed.

Ian W: Thank you for that context.........funny that per Internet - the sources of information were just the rock mags of the day and friends.......and the 1978 tour was not one I remember much of anything about........though I did love the Live album that came from it.

BEG: I remember writing at this GB ( in the LP years ) about 10 years ago about how out of place and unnecessary Blue Rodeo were that night......they almost tipped the song over actually and now it is confirmed that it was one of those silly industry decisions that put them up on stage........From Robbie's comments - clear that the boys were surprised to have a full band thrust on them as well !


Entered at Thu Jul 3 15:34:50 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sorry his name is Moe Burg....Pursuit of Happiness...."I'm An Adult Now"...our anthem at one time....from the CD "Love Junk".

"Moe Burg's "Pursuit of Happiness" hail from Toronto, Ontario. "Love Junk" was produced by Todd Rundgren. Look for Johnny Sinclair and Leslie Stanwyck in the video, who would later leave the band to start Universal Honey."


Entered at Thu Jul 3 15:27:50 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Yet despite Blue Rodeo's success, the band was still relegated to provide backing support for a live performance by the Band. And the members of the Band weren't sure they needed the help.

Jim Cuddy of the group Blue Rodeo poses by a Juno awards logo in Toronto on Tuesday October 25, 2010. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Frank Gunn) "That was a totally strange experience," Blue Rodeo frontman Jim Cuddy said during a recent interview in Toronto. "(Organizers) said, 'We've got something very special for you. The Band wants to play with you, and they're very keen on playing with you.'

"And we were like, wow, really? The Band? This was great. Imagine that! And then when we went to rehearsal, Robbie Robertson walked in. He had no idea that anybody else was going to be there. He said, 'There's a lot of Indians here. We just need a drummer."'

"It was a very entertainment-industry moment for us, where people say a lot of things that aren't true, and a lot of people are lavishing you with praise when they've never even heard of you."

It's an archival anecdote dug up by "Music From Far and Wide: Celebrating 40 Years of the Juno Awards," a new book (2010) on the venerable awards show that hits stores this week with a foreward from Cuddy."

Hi Kevin J....We need more posters here or it's closing time. Btw at one time I used to see Jim Cuddy at the central YMCA and singer-songwriter from "Im An Adult Now" at the west end Y.


Entered at Thu Jul 3 10:48:37 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Dylan 1978 link from Kevin J

I attended a couple of Dylan's 1978 shows and, each show, he did two songs in this manner (not the full band and with this open-throated singing style).

Most of the show was done with the full touring band that some said was based on some Elvis shows, though (a) Dylan had attended a Neil Diamond show in Las Vegas and (b) Dylan once made reference to Linda Ronstadt in this connection. I have no idea if either Diamond or Ronstadt adopted this approach in the course of their shows prior to 1978 (and would be interested to find out) but Dylan certainly made his own.

The other song I recall performed in this way was "I Want You".


Entered at Thu Jul 3 00:09:30 CEST 2014 from (24.114.70.174)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: The Eagles

LINKED : Jim Cuddy of Blue Rodeo shares some thoughts on a recent interaction with The Eagles. Interesting and not surprising.....Maybe Don Felder is better off where he is.......


Entered at Wed Jul 2 23:14:30 CEST 2014 from (24.114.70.174)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Lyrics TNTDODD - ????????

A few thoughts:

* Robbie has complied lyrics to all Band songs as well as his solo songs - see Updates section on this website.......What caught my eye was the addition of the word "when" to TNTDODD.......I don't remember it ever being performed that way by The Band....and not by Robbie either in his "at the piano" take in the VH1 special......."By May the 10th, when Richmond had fell......" it reads.

*Josh George's may be the last remaining true man of honour in all of sports. God Bless him.

* Motley Crüe are heading out on a Last Waltz of sorts.........what is interesting is that they held a press conference where the highlight of it was the displaying a "Cessation of touring" agreement which all members signed which will prevent anyone from playing live using the Mötley Crüe name unless all four original members are on board.........who would have figured it would be this group to finally get things right on this front............I remember seeing the Guess Who at the Queen's pub in Kingston - only the drummer was on hand from the original group! Many such gruesome stories in Rock n Roll.

* World Cup thoughts: I have said from the start that I thought this was the month where Messi would finally catapult himself into the truely elite group of All-time greats with Pele and Maradona......must really lead his country to a major championship to earn this place.......not sure he will......but a good chance.....Cheering for Holland now that Uruguay is out.........Luis "wolverine" Suarez was framed! He and Liverpool made me so happy this year that I can't help still loving the crazy little devil !

* For JT and all the other folks who enjoy Bob Dylan, ABOVE LINKED is an encore of "Tangled Up In Blue" first posted by Pat B about a year ago.......from Paris 1978..............this will knock your socks off.....trust me on this one.


Entered at Wed Jul 2 21:55:49 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, this could turn into a black hole so I will restrain myself.


Entered at Wed Jul 2 19:37:26 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: typos

Joan!

Pat B: Gotta milk that pun for all it's worth, eh?


Entered at Wed Jul 2 19:25:29 CEST 2014 from (96.232.159.74)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Perter V

Hope you have a great Birthday !


Entered at Wed Jul 2 17:46:10 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, I was distracted trying to fix someone's rack.


Entered at Wed Jul 2 15:53:15 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: wading back to Saskatoon

Thanks to coverage of the flooding being experience in large swaths of the Prairies, I've finally seen the town of Moosomin mentioned outside the confines of the Guess Who's epic "Running Back To Saskatoon" (see link). Two Band links: Guess Who produced Jack Richardson played bass to Robbie Robertson's guitar on Dianne Brooks' "Orbiteer Twist" in the early '60s, and singer Burton Cummings appeared on "Tears Are Not Enough", as did Richard Manuel.

Pat B: I believe you acronymed Little Feat as LT the other day. A Freudian slit?


Entered at Wed Jul 2 14:15:27 CEST 2014 from (162.213.113.107)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA
Web: My link

Subject: 149 Dylan Acetates found fropm 1969-70

Rare Dylan Find


Entered at Wed Jul 2 13:51:14 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETER...England's biggest Band fan and music in general!

Hi Mark. Good to "see" you again. FYI Paul James will be at the Dominion again on July 12.

You're welcome Joan. Great to see that you're continuing to press on. :-D


Entered at Wed Jul 2 11:30:23 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Jeff!


Entered at Wed Jul 2 07:37:39 CEST 2014 from (68.199.209.167)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Happy Birthday Peter :-)


Entered at Wed Jul 2 07:14:09 CEST 2014 from (68.199.209.167)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Musician friend caught Don Felder at City Winery last night. Said the show was stellar. 90 minutes of Eagle songs and that Felder sounds eerily like Henley,& his 5 piece band was killer. The person reporting is a singer, and a stickler type of guy. So, i kinda respect his judgment. I had intended to go, get tickets at the door, but stuff interfered. the show wasn't sold out...


Entered at Wed Jul 2 04:51:40 CEST 2014 from (99.233.208.199)

Posted by:

Mark in Toronto

Subject: Midnight Rambles Sessions, Vol. 3

The new Levon Helm Band album is available in Canada today. A perfect soundtrack for Canada Day. Levon always was a honorary Torontonian.


Entered at Tue Jul 1 19:27:38 CEST 2014 from (96.232.159.74)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BEG

BRG thank you the Canadian Ads. They were very funny,We have all been in those spots


Entered at Tue Jul 1 18:42:53 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

First off, the singing cowboy is Craig Robinson who is quite a star and one funny dude. Seeing him sing The Weight cracked me up. He has a ton of swag with a large section of the population. If you see "This Is The End" you will know why.

I just finished a Dylan bio. In the section about his appearances in ads, the author asks, "What's more American than making money?" I have no doubt if any of us wrote and song and someone offered big money to use it to sell something, we'd move pretty quick to sign.


Entered at Tue Jul 1 17:19:13 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I Am CANADIAN commercials.


Entered at Tue Jul 1 16:50:59 CEST 2014 from (64.229.246.103)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

LOL. Partner says Hay Day commercial was sad to go to that level. I say it only offended me when the bacon came out as I don't eat pork. Props to the Band and Robbie for writing the song......everyone will know it now. ;-D

Happy 147th Birthday to Canada today!


Entered at Tue Jul 1 09:45:39 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

On children’s entertainers, I am deeply shocked about Rolf Harris. Jimmy Saville did far worse, but I always thought he was a nasty pervert in the mid 60s when he was on TV, and most people I know thought the same. The only surprise with Saville was that he got away with it so long. He ran a night club in the area, and rumours were strong twenty-five years ago.

But Rolf Harris? I really would have trusted him completely. The playlist of his songs has entertained two generations of kids in my car. When I ran through my most played on iTunes last year, he had three in the Top Ten due to constant plays on the school run. So what do I do? Delete the playlist? What do I say when my grandson asks for his favourite next time, Maximilian Mouse? It’s like Michael Jackson. Can you separate the music from the person? I manage with Chuck Berry easily, but less so with Jerry Lee Lewis.

Scanning the BBC news, I saw the Murdoch press is complaining, with justification, that if they hadn’t been tied up in the press standards enquiry over phone-hacking, they could have revealed a lot a few years ago.


Entered at Tue Jul 1 09:14:21 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Hay Day – thanks, Tenn. Several points come up.

The guy actually sings it well among those flabby animated creatures. It proves what a great tune it is.

It has had nearly 2 million hits. Seeking the App? Or is it just us guys here re-watching it?

BUT if the target audience is the age I assume, aren’t the lyrics of The Weight completely impossible for them to follow? If you want a rustic fellow singing and strumming, wouldn’t (say) the works of Burl Ives or even Pete Seeger be more worthy of attention?

Advertising doesn’t work on me.

I think I might download the App for the grandkids.


Entered at Tue Jul 1 05:55:20 CEST 2014 from (67.87.216.122)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Fucking Ay, Tennessee. Levon did. It ain't always about getting paid. The shame is, the opportunities for real music to earn are fewer all the time.


Entered at Tue Jul 1 04:34:34 CEST 2014 from (72.154.12.66)

Posted by:

BWNWITenn

Web: My link

Subject: Maybe Levon had a point

Anybody see the latest commercial featuring "The Weight"?


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