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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

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Entered at Sat Apr 29 06:30:07 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.86)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Americanadana

Ben Pike. i guess "corn in the fields", well, RR musta been referring to Norm's Deluxe 38s. King Harvest, well, had to be Norm.

Bob, in the morning I might be headed up to Albany, then back later. If so, I'll try & stop & say hello to you guys on the bridge on the way up.


Entered at Sat Apr 29 05:27:41 CEST 2017 from (165.20.114.249)

Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: Corn in the Fields....

Do you find "King Harvest" warm and celebratory, or dark and foreboding? Or something else?


Entered at Sat Apr 29 02:06:30 CEST 2017 from (174.95.199.216)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Working equipment

Norm, you old sea dog . . .


Entered at Sat Apr 29 01:47:22 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bunch-a-Snowflakes

My pony, my rifle and me???? What a bunch a crap!!

Anways, my brother and 3 other bullies we played music with for over 40 years now ganged up on me. It goes like this. In Sechelt, that little town nestled on the sunshine coast is a real cool building. About 1972 the local Royal Canadian Legion opened those doors. In 1973 my brother Lorne and I started playing music there. Back then it was the only watering hole in town. The nearest bar was about 4 miles away. We used to pack that place.

When they had their mortgage burning party, my old friend Harry Casey called me. He said Norm, you and Lorne pretty much helped us pay the mortgage on this place. We would like you to come and play the music for this party, and this time only they paid us "huge".

The place was sold to a private enterprise some time ago. These people searched us out and we had to go and play music for them. What I'm coming to is this. Just a short while back, we lost Chuck Berry. Well Lorne and I played his music always.

We are kicking ass. I finish a song and this Deluxe thing comes up and puts those 38's in my face with a very low cut front end. She says, "Hi big boy I'm Carol can you play a song for me". My brother is standing pretty close to me, (enjoying the view). He just launches right into that Chuck Berry intro of, "Oh Carol", so I sing the song, I mean what was I to do. She has got all that equipment of hers working and...............to be continued.......


Entered at Fri Apr 28 18:25:59 CEST 2017 from (184.146.92.220)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Jeff & Dunc: See Fred's Link from a day or two ago which had just made reference to a picture of the Band but was more than that as is was a review of a new book out by Johnathan Taplin on the very subject you are discussing.

JQ: All of my purchases in recent years have been through a video store that I still frequent....they either order titles for me if I think of something I want or I sometimes buy a used copy...I've yet to join Netflix. I'll ask them where they go for the best prices on hard to find old movies.


Entered at Fri Apr 28 12:42:49 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Dunc, i've been bitching about streaming since i entered here in 02. The royalties for royalties to songwriters & sound recording owners are all between a tenth & nine tenths of a penny. Artists royalties are part of the label or sound recording owners problem,(unless possibly set up differently) or the digital royalty for artists domain, Sound Exchange. But it's next to no money. And the sound sucks- you're likely dealing with mp3s, but even if not & it's a better file, it's still digitally transmitted, accepted, & rebroadcast.

Downloads killed physical distribution of sales of recording. And the need to buy the whole thing. Then streaming killed even sales of downloads. Who earns- the streaming companies, who are now heavily shareholded by the labels. the money is made in subscriptions and advertising, allowing the companies to have found a legal way to avoid paying the artists, songwriters, today, many or most of the sound recording owners.


Entered at Fri Apr 28 10:12:28 CEST 2017 from (86.173.65.98)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks Bill. I'll not buy that album just now because it's 50 pounds minimum just now. But I was interested because these musicians are on the Cale album.

Thanks, Peter. I think the two Cale albums I had are great. What's Artificial Intelligence like?

Thanks Bob F. The interest in Garland Jeffreys was because of the link to John Cale, although I noticed you and BEG like him. A post of yours a couple of months back that interested me was when you mentioned Amazon Prime.

My wife joined Amazon Prime (God knows why...but sssh) but I investigated and was astonished at the music I was able to access. First time I streamed. I always buy and play CDs. Never had any time to investigate any other way of accessing music when I was working.

Jeff, thanks for links, I enjoy them. After looking at Amazon Prime, I can't see how artists get rewarded for their recorded work. Although, Amy MacDonald and Paolo Nuttini from this neck of the woods seem to be making money.


Entered at Fri Apr 28 04:39:12 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Yes, Bob, & an aside, all the Dino / John Wayne movies were great. My favorite was El Dorado.



Entered at Fri Apr 28 03:52:49 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Location: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZULVnHykadQ

Subject: Me & My Uncle / Big River


Entered at Fri Apr 28 03:51:22 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Mexicali Blues


Entered at Fri Apr 28 02:59:09 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Chestnut Mare

this could go on.


Entered at Fri Apr 28 02:57:39 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: The Cowboy Song

Here ya go Bob. :-) LOL


Entered at Fri Apr 28 01:00:17 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: My Pony, My Rifle and Me

Jeff, can we agree that Dean and Ricky doing My Pony, My Rifle and Me from Rio Bravo is a great cowboy song?


Entered at Thu Apr 27 22:31:03 CEST 2017 from (24.114.99.209)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: I wouldn't want anyone to buy Grinder's Switch just because I'd did. It's Bandish, but not particularly enjoyable. I spent $6.95 on the LP, and did so only because it's of historical and personal interest. Not for the music. I always loved Garland Jeffrey's "Wild In The Streets", and have always been disappointed that he doesn't usually (ever?) sound like "Wild In The Streets".


Entered at Thu Apr 27 21:40:56 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

But, Rock & Roll Cowboys is catchy. Trite, cliched, catchy.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 21:32:48 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: J Demme - Swimming to Cambodia

Kevin J - A great reminder - I wonder how I could find that? I don't see it on Netflix. And Demme's a great loss.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 21:05:34 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I listened to Rock & Roll Cowboy. I find the lyric trite, & never cared for the analogy of rock & rollers to cowboys. Questioning the place & purpose of old rock & rollers is one thing, comparing em to old cowboys another. He took the easy way. To me, it's schlock. But, who am I to critique Davies? Just another putz with a keyboard, just stating my opinion.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 19:18:27 CEST 2017 from (184.146.92.220)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: The Merkle Blunder

...A bit harsh I was last night....more than a bit really....I had heard the title track "Americana" and was not impressed and then seeing that video where the director seemed to relish in having Ray portrayed as a bit of a stumbling mess really got to me....and well I teed off on the whole album without really giving it a fair listen.....I have now and can better understand what Mr. Davies was up to....and travelling as much as I do and having more and more time to sit and reflect on life I can relate to much of the sentiment and charm that is in many of the songs......The title track really is quite awful in my view but there are lots to like in "Along Drive home to Tarzana" and "Rock n Roll Cowboy" and "The Great Highway" and "The Deal", "Wings of Fantasy" and others....Thank you, Peter for the link to the album....and Bob F for a nudge to dive back in.

Johnathan Demme: RIP........Many here will be very familiar with his many famous movies "Silence of the Lambs", "Stop Making Sense", etc. but my favourite movie of Demme's was his collaboration with the late great Spalding Gray "Swimming to Cambodia"........a monologue extraordinaire with brilliant touches of direction that creates a movie like story escape that is impossible to properly describe. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 15:56:39 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

From The Guardian. Nice photo of The Band.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 13:02:30 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Rock N Roll Cowboys

Kevin, I really like this song from the new Ray Davies.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 12:59:41 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Garland Jeffreys

Dunc, to each his own but if you wanted to get into some Garland, I would go with Ghostwriter, Escape Artist, American Boy and Girl, One Eyed Jack, Don't Call Me Buckwheat, The King of In Between. Garland has a new record called 14 Steps to Harlem coming out next week.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 10:52:58 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: John Cale

Difficult. Vintage Violence and Paris 1919 are the masterpieces. Some 70s stuff is very thrashy and aggressive, and the melodies aren't there.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 10:27:30 CEST 2017 from (86.167.98.226)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bill M

Thanks, Bill M. I was going to go with you and buy the Garland Jeffreys and Grinder's Switch. I don't know Garland Jeffreys, but BEG champions him. I read up on the album this morning.

So I was ready to buy, but the two copies of the album on CD I found cost 60 pounds and 160 pounds, both used.

So c'mon our much more musically knowledgeable members than me, what's my next John Cale to be. Paris 1919 is a brilliant album.

Kevin, you've sewn a doubt. I wish I was going to a Ray Davies concert tonight. It's a good show.

Enjoying my first Jessie Winchester also.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 09:56:54 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Ray is Randy or randy

Different strokes for different folks, Kevin. I see the song Americana and most of the album as Ray in Randy Newman territory. The album isn't Americana as a genre musically, but a view of Americana. The cliches are deliberate. There's the question of personna. Is the character in The Deal Ray himself, or is it Ray acting out an older rock star? I was a little troubled by the fact that in 'The Deal' cappuccino is sung almost in contemptuous inverted commas, as if it was a pretentious word in itself, which it would have been maybe 30 or 40 odd years ago, but hasn't been for decades.

Otherwise it's good to hear him set against a female singer, the Jayhawks are solid and there is a lot of humour … like the You Really Got Me riff. Listen to the start of The Great Highway, for example. Ray is having a lot of fun. I'm in two minds about narrative bits, like the meeting with Alex Chilton, because they pale with repeated listening … unless you're Frank Zappa. But at least it has its own track ident.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 08:55:11 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Canadian Softwood.

Norm, all those years you were logging & then later tugging those logs around, you & yer buddies been startin these problems between our countries. Troublemaker! Twitler's comin for ya.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 06:48:20 CEST 2017 from (24.114.68.76)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Not good, Ray....In fact Awful

Weird when the junk mailers are responding to posts faster than the regulars !

The Kinks and Ray Davies: I think everyone here knows how much I love The Kinks and Ray Davies......I have everything they have ever released.....and sang from the rooftops about that overlooked and glorious period from Sleepwalker to Think Visual - including the masterpiece Word of Mouth - but this latest from Ray Davies is really causing me pause....... I had only heard the title track "Americana" and it is truly awful........"My baby brother and me" and "I want to make my home where the Buffalo roam" and all sorts of other cliched and horrible lyrics presented in an accent not quite "american" but so far away from his real accent that it tramples completely on his one truly identifiable signature personality..........Imagine the horror of Johnny Cash late in life pretending to be Ray Davies and all things British and you might just grasp how truly terrible this song is......I have since listened to 3 or 4 other songs and all equally dire........Time to get back with Dave or someone, anyone who can tell you right from wrong..


Entered at Thu Apr 27 04:40:18 CEST 2017 from (24.114.99.209)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: Just last week I finally picked up the Grinder's Switch album on Vanguard, which is pretty much the "Vintage Violence" group but with Garland Jeffreys rather than John Cale - two sometime Hawks (Sandy Konikoff and Stan Szelest) and another Buffalonian who knew our guys very well, Ernie Corallo. Grinder's Switch is very Bandy; is VV?


Entered at Thu Apr 27 02:35:45 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Sheryl Crow Be Myself

The new Sheryl Crow record has some good songs as well. Not the record I was hoping for though. On some songs she sounds more like The Bangles then her old sound. Nothing wrong with The Bangles but it's not The Globe Sessions. It's always hard to recreate something that was really great. Cat Stevens had the same problem a few years back when he tried to find that old magic. The Sheryl Crow team has obviously spent a whole lot of money on the record and promotion leading up to it's release. It's going to be interesting to see how many copies she sold in the first week.


Entered at Thu Apr 27 02:12:14 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Americana

I like it more with each listen. Some of the melodies seem familiar but at this point so what. I really love Rock N Roll Cowboys and A Long Drive Home To Tarzana. The Jayhawks sound really good with Ray.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 18:41:22 CEST 2017 from (86.167.98.226)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland.

Subject: Play it again, Sam

After you've played Ray another couple of times, Peter, report back and I'll get it, if you still think the same.

Playing John Cale Paris 1919 and Vintage Violence today. Great music. Always knew Paris, but Vintage Violence was an 'accessible' recommendation from Peter. What's the next 'accessible' John Cale album I go for?

Yesterday I played 'How To Become Clairvoyant?', 'MFBP', and 'The Last Waltz'. Really enjoyed Eric Clapton yesterday. Then I played Leonard Cohen 'Old Ideas' and then Bert Jansch 'The Ornament Tree'. Although it was recorded in London, I always think of it as Bert's Scottish album.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 18:36:13 CEST 2017 from (24.114.99.209)

Posted by:

Bill M

Rockin C: With diving skills like that, the guy has a future in Italian soccer if that Jays thing doesn't work out. Or Portuguese.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 16:35:51 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter 5th

Web: My link

Subject: Americana

Anyone else got Ray Davies' Americana album? After 3 days play, I think it's a very strong album indeed, sure to be in my Top 10 of the Year (best so far). Link to the title track.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 16:27:34 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Holy old flyin'!!

Did you Toronnie guys see what Chris Coghlen did last night? Looked kind of like a Bobbie Orr move. Football on the goal line.....yeah, or the high flying Orr, but baseball??.......yeah what a move.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 15:48:17 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Willie, the Energizer Bunny...

He just keeps on tickin'. Willie Nelson's upcoming release 'God's Problem Child' can be heard at the NPR First Listen page (link above) but only for a limited time. Pretty solid, only a few guests, including the late Leon Russell on one track, but not (thank goodness) another duets project. Hear it while it lasts.

Wish I had an in with NPR. Would love to see Cashmere Cat up there so we could hear his work. Probably not my cup o' tea, but you know...curiosity?


Entered at Wed Apr 26 13:26:35 CEST 2017 from (67.246.38.157)

Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs, NY

My friend sent me the following email. I thought you folks would enjoy it.

There is twitter war started by Nate Silver of 528 on the US/Canada trade war. It's over Canadian retaliation for the softwood import tariffs Trump is imposing on Canada.

The best post by a Canadian so far is: You keep Justin Beiber and Celine Dion. Give us back Neil Young and The Band.

Gotta love it.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 12:50:00 CEST 2017 from (87.117.204.2)

Posted by:

Jan W

Web: My link

Peter, Bob Fass was no ordinary DJ, and you can read about him in the link above. The version of I'll Keep It With Mine he played was the one released on Biograph which was not a publishing demo. That was the one on the Witmark sessions. Bob Fass played lots of unreleased Bob Dylan long before it ever appeared on bootlegs and was a friend of Dylan. The list of musicians who didn't appear on his show is shorter than the list of who did.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 09:27:20 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Bill, were you thinking all these years that it was Peter Vee? Everyone else here knew it was Peter the Fifth.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 07:10:06 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.131)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Magnus. The Curious Life of Cashmere Cat.

Lotta press.

Includes brief incorrect information regarding the Band website.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 02:11:00 CEST 2017 from (24.114.99.209)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: if the shuffling madness ...

jh: Nice article. The answer is yes; 45 years ago, Ian Anderson called it "Locomotive Breath".

Peter V: Holy shit - right there like that in Henry fucking Vee!


Entered at Wed Apr 26 01:21:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Henry V

There's another one in Henry V where Katherine of France is getting her lady in waiting to teach her English, and mispronounces and says it, then just in case anyone missed it, comments that English is a very rude language.


Entered at Wed Apr 26 01:19:38 CEST 2017 from (85.164.127.169)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: CC (and The Band web site)

They certainly did their research ;-)


Entered at Wed Apr 26 00:11:02 CEST 2017 from (184.66.224.75)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: 'Mal' volio

Peter V: I looked this issue up in Google. Amazing what one can learn. Malvolio is named well.


Entered at Tue Apr 25 23:51:46 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Twelfth Night

JT, it's the bit where Malvolio is trying to puzzle out the coding in Olivia's letter. He finds a C … then a U … what can the word be? … Ah!, and here's a T …. so …

There are four major productions due in the UK this year, and the first two have both milked that one to great laughter. In Hamlet it's "Let us now speak of country matters" to Ophelia, and most often Hamlet pauses very slightly after the first syllable of "country."


Entered at Tue Apr 25 21:23:01 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Who knew?

Studied 'Twelfth Night' in grade 7 junior high school. This was not emphasized. Who knew?


Entered at Tue Apr 25 18:33:37 CEST 2017 from (184.146.92.220)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: Robbie interview with Mitch Melnick - interesting in that he discusses his ties to Montreal....and the schedule for writing Volume 2......Melnick - as a by the way - is one of Canada's finest broadcasters with exquisite musical tastes.

The fact that a Fox News exists is bad enough.....the fact that we have a POTUS that actually sets policy based completely on what he has just heard on Fox News is mind blowing....Scary times.


Entered at Tue Apr 25 16:50:21 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff's comment, though robust, seems perfectly fair.


Entered at Tue Apr 25 16:34:51 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Swearing.....The straight goods

The onliest thing needs saying........ "Oh Jeepers!....this is extremely upsetting!!"

Can't yuh see a guy dancing around holding his foot waist high exclaiming that?

What I've never been able to figure out is how Jesus Christ got hisself dragged into this all the time....gawd damn it! :-)


Entered at Tue Apr 25 16:31:27 CEST 2017 from (80.3.236.231)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Sensing hostility...

Reading between the lines, and correct me if I've got this wrong, I'm picking up some dissatisfaction with your President Jeff...


Entered at Tue Apr 25 16:12:53 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.131)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Hey you Northern Canadians, I think Twitler thinks he is declaring war on you this morning. I doubt you have anything to worry about in that general regard. But I'm not sure you don't have to worry about him provoking North Korea into sending nukes this way.

Man, i never watched cable news till about a year ago. Now i;m addicted to MSNBC mainly because i'm worried insane. There's been plenty of times i;ve beeen concerned about what could happen in this country, int he late 60s, in the early 70s, in Reagan's bubble, and when 9/11 happened, and then in 2008 when the bubble burst.But nothing like having this man in the PResidency with a conscienceless Tea Party Mentality Republican Congress. I've understood Twitler from Day One. He's never surprised me.( Throughout my life I have known & dealt with many conscienceless desperadoes who will do & say anything to attain their desires. The difference is that most were far more intelligent, some just a little more. And though some were wealthy, none had the kind of resources he has) What has surprised me is how people & politicians have reacted to him, & the fact that these Republican fucking bastards in the govt are allowing every fabric of our society & government be shredded by a treasonous criminal & his team of treasonous lowlife bastards..


Entered at Tue Apr 25 13:25:49 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Robbie interview

The latest Record Collector (May 2017, "1967" cover) has a major Robbie Robertson interview as the lead article, along with a Chuck Berry tribute. The article as usual ends with a price guide to Band / Ronnie Hawkins collectibles. Looks like the Ronnie Hawkins LPs have fallen in value in recent years … this is true of other rock classics from the late 50s.


Entered at Tue Apr 25 12:07:05 CEST 2017 from (86.167.98.226)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Happiness and swearing

Swearing up here is widespread. I love it.

But one of my happiest memories relates to London swearing. I worked as a bin man in London for about 6 months back in the day.

I loved it when my bin lorry with six men aboard passed other bin lorries to the shouts of 'You faakin' waankah!" with accompanying hand gestures like Roman chariots saluting each other. Happy days.

I remember reading in the Observer television review a writer saying that everybody knows Rodney and Delboy don't really say Plonkah. I hadn't thought about it until then.


Entered at Tue Apr 25 10:15:37 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: More on cussin'

A bit more. The champion swearers in my experience are the Irish. They also get away with it. I was with the Irish sales director of my august and ancient educational publisher, a man known for rarely completing an F-word free sentence. I was due to speak at a large Catholic Teacher Training College. We walked in to the hall, and it was surrounded by realistic statues of crucifixions, gruesome martyrdoms, Madonnas.

‘Fuck me!’ he exclaimed, ‘You can smell the fucking piety in here …’

There was a little cough behind us. He whirled round.

‘Ah, Mother Superior! What a delight it is to meet you …”

I have to say the nun seemed totally unphased by his turn of phrase and her English was perfect.

Afterwards, I said, ‘Well, I’m amazed you got away with that..’

‘Fuck off, you C-,’ he said, ‘I’m not totally fucking insensitive. You’ll note that I never fucking took the name of the Lord in vain while we were there.’


Entered at Tue Apr 25 10:04:23 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.131)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Link

Donald Fagen is taking four locally well known twenty something Ulster County musicians out as his backing band on a solo tour. I imagine there will also be a horn section & female backup singers but i could easily be wrong. For these guys it's a shot at national music industry exposure.


Entered at Tue Apr 25 09:38:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Discussin' Cussin'

In my review of David Tennant in Don Juan In Soho, (LINKED) I mentioned that the play has many F and C words, but that they were dwarfed on the post-football Saturday evening train home … not by the male fans who used the F-word once or twice, but by a group of girls in their early 20s. They were very drunk at 8 pm, and had clearly been fuelling up before hitting the clubs … they got off at Southampton. This is what kids do because prices are high in the clubs … vodka from the supermarket before they go.

One of my late co-authors spoke many languages and could hold forth on swearing in different cultures. He believed German to be frustrating because the sexual words are the everyday words, so you could only be obscene though creative combination. Spanish he held to be the very best language for swearing (he was bilingual and had lived in Madrid for years) but he said swearing in Madrid was expected to combine the sexual, the divine, the excretory, a family member, perversion AND the diabolic in one sentence to carry any weight. I half recall an example, but it is too obscene to list.

This is advice when wielding heavy mallets in the event of an accident.


Entered at Tue Apr 25 09:13:33 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.131)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Ringo

Suggested reading. And there's some things germane to many discussions in here.

I love this truth ( and there are other great facts & observations) "There is little question that the invitation to join the Beatles was the single luckiest thing that ever happened to Ringo Starr. But Ringo’s acceptance of that invitation was also one of the luckiest things that ever happened to the Beatles. "


Entered at Tue Apr 25 06:12:47 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Robert M. Pirsig

Although we never met, I’m proud to call you my friend, RIP Robert M Pirsig. Thanks for making this world a better place.

“Mountains should be climbed with as little effort as possible and without desire. The reality of your own nature should determine the speed. If you become restless, speed up. If you become winded, slow down. You climb the mountain in an equilibrium between restlessness and exhaustion. Then, when you're no longer thinking ahead, each footstep isn't just a means to an end but a unique event in itself....To live only for some future goal is shallow. It's the sides of the mountains which sustain life, not the top.”


Entered at Tue Apr 25 03:43:05 CEST 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: JQ

HaHa. Sorry to laugh JQ but that reminded me of what my long gone Dad said when he dropped a 5 pound mallet on his bare foot. "jesus, jumped up, bald headed, cross firing canadian fucking christ, that fucking hurt!"


Entered at Tue Apr 25 01:32:19 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: F and C

PV - I wince when I hear young teenagers using fuck conversationally; although it's used that way, by all ages, more frequently now too. The sad thing is that it worked so well as an exclamation for most of my life and now it's fast becoming like pshaw. I think telling someone to shut the fuck up might be its most powerful use still. C is the worst word (apologies again Norm) but doesn't work as an exclamation/expletive, it only works as a noun. Maybe an adjective if you add "ish". So what's left to shout when you drop a 3lb sledge on your bare foot like I did yesterday? Actually shouting fuck 3 times in a row did help.


Entered at Mon Apr 24 22:27:05 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just watched Grantchester, a nicely mild 1950s detective series.

Well, Shakespeare gets close to using the C-word (deliberately to shock) at least twice … Hamlet and Twelfth Night. There's a swing between religious profanity and obscenity from generation to generation. we just happen to be in a more obscenity oriented era. A British court ruled that "fuck" was no longer offensive when said to a police officer. So there you go. The weight of words change. To the 17th century, "naughty" meant "evil". It lost its power. Currently the F-word is losing its power in the same way. "Bugger" has always been extremely mild in British English, though is clearly stronger in meaning than "the F word".


Entered at Mon Apr 24 21:24:42 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Knicks Forever

I don't know anything about hockey so I can't join that conversation. However, as a life long Knick fan, I know sports suffering. That's why it's going to be so much sweeter when they do win. The entire Tri State area is going to have a smile on it's face for weeks. It will be the biggest sports moment in New York history. The fact that the big guy from Latvia is going to lead the city of immigrants to the championship will make it even more perfect. Dreams go on forever.


Entered at Mon Apr 24 20:36:37 CEST 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Blessing in disguise

For hockey fans of Habs and Leafs (Kevin et al): Maybe a blessing in disguise. Read Cathal Kelly in the Globe and Mail. Habs like the Leafs but a little more developed and further along, both teams are continuing to grow. (Look at what the Oilers have accomplished with patients, the superstar notwithstanding) New young players need time. Leafs are behind Habs in this regard but the future is bright (I gotta wear shades). Fans require patience during growth. Its not easy when you achieve some success. Just a thought, though. Predators thriving with Subban. Penguins getting a lot out of Kessel. Could they have made a difference? Who knows. We'll never know. (One thing for sure: I never saw Phil smile in Toronto... he's smiling at times on camera in Pittsburgh.)


Entered at Mon Apr 24 20:21:01 CEST 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

Bob, I read those books when they first came out and really enjoyed them. Got quite fond of the characters.


Entered at Mon Apr 24 19:43:24 CEST 2017 from (86.167.98.226)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks Kevin. Really enjoyed lawrence Block.

Thanks Bob F. you'll really enjoy the books. The first series of Rebus was a dreadful flop.They started again with Ken Stott in the leading roll.


Entered at Mon Apr 24 19:14:02 CEST 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: F

Kevin: You bring up an interesting point. There are many movies and TV shows where people use profanities like the F-word. I am not certain at what date these words evolved but like you, I would be surprised if they existed 100 years ago and if they were used at all. So we have to give the writer and the filmmaker some slack. If I were making films or telling stories of events in the past, I'd find out what profanities were used in the time of the events portrayed. But that's just me...a stickler for detail and accuracy.... (glass houses...stones)


Entered at Mon Apr 24 19:05:54 CEST 2017 from (184.146.92.220)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Yes….I also very much like crime stories and the detective-investigator genre. In the 80’s, read all of Lawrence Block’s Scudder detective books and the early great James Elroy books and then right around that time PBS started airing the Sherlock Holmes with Jeremy Brett and also the Inspector Morse series. Now, it seems every country has gotten into the business of doing productions based on detective fiction books….I am picky though, just as I could never tolerate singing cowboys or any kind of deviation from the standard Western movie plot ( realism, humour in a Western – no thank you ! ) I really dislike detectives that have families……They all should be single and preferably drinkers and smokers……..not quite but no families please. Though not a detective series, I blame the Soprano’s for introducing this family silliness. While it worked in that series, the parts involving the son and daughter were always the least interesting parts of the show and producers all over television started introducing this into all types of shows. The dirty secret is that it is just a device to pad a script and fill 90 minutes more easily….The last thing I want in a detective/Inspector ½ way through solving a crime is to see him at home dealing with his daughters headache or his wife’s complaint about the neighbours !

The Inspector and the Sea really suffers from the "singing cowboy" problem.....and funnily enough, I almost stopped watching one of the true A+ series of all-time - Deadwood - at episode 1 just because I had never heard a cowboy swear before. It was jolting - but I got over it.


Entered at Mon Apr 24 17:58:25 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Loneliness Road Iggy Pop

Check out this great music Iggy Pop recently made with Jamie Saft's jazz trio.


Entered at Mon Apr 24 17:44:03 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Dunc

Dunc, thanks for the tip. We're going to watch Department Q as soon as we finish the new season of Bosch. We tried Rebus awhile back but didn't care for it. However, I believe the first season had a different actor in the lead role. I'll keep it in mind. I'm definitely going to check out the books by Maj Sjowall and Per Wahloo. I love crime stories.


Entered at Mon Apr 24 13:35:34 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just reading "Homeward Bound" the incredibly detailed Paul Simon biography. New to me: he met Carole King when she tutored him in maths. They formed a duo doing demo records for others commercially as The Cosines (maths tuition!) and Paul played bass and guitar and Carole played piano and drums. Did any of those demos survive?


Entered at Mon Apr 24 04:50:14 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Better team

Unfortunately, the better team won. Go Oilers.


Entered at Sun Apr 23 19:58:30 CEST 2017 from (24.114.68.76)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Rockin Chair

Norm.....Thank you and I know you are right on that. It's just hard sometimes. Imagine how Steve would have felt these days with the double whammy of Habs out and the Trump madness !


Entered at Sun Apr 23 19:44:07 CEST 2017 from (24.114.68.76)

Posted by:

Kevin J

JT: Thank you. Beautifully written and thought out....it really is all of those things isn't it....I had decided last night that just turning the set off temporarily and taping/pvr would help. I had even convinced myself that checking the scores at either 11 minutes past the hour or 33 mins would help. I also had a theory on the volume levels I was working with since it had worked during the last Olympics and Canada's gold medal winning game. Madness!

.......and JT, I wish you a more relaxing and happy night tonight.

Thank you, Dunc......I am currently watching "The Inspector and the Sea"... A German series set in Sweden.....Not brilliant by any stretch but very good.


Entered at Sun Apr 23 19:25:00 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: It's in yer blood!

Kevin and Jerry. Kevin, we've shared the same disappointments time and again. You can't stop caring no more than you can stop breathing. Jerry, there is no need to wonder why, it's in your blood.

What I can never stop wondering about, is how we cannot teach the world to share the caring. If you go to a hockey game and as you move through the crowd and in to your seat, you can see just about every ethnic type of person you can name on this planet. All sharing and honestly caring about the same thing.

The folks who work at "Playing for change" never stop trying to bring people together thru' music. Still we are manipulated by an American president who vows to put an aircraft carrier in front on North Korea as a "show of force" and a Korean lunatic who says he'll blow it out of the water as a "show of force". I think these loonies would really do this. So what do our lives mean?


Entered at Sun Apr 23 16:58:27 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Correction

Greg Iles. With apologies to Mr. Iles. Also a member of the author's rock band that includes Stephen King.


Entered at Sun Apr 23 16:52:15 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Excerpt From Greg Isles New book, "Mississippi Blood." The third in a Trilogy.

"Every now and then there’s a juddering thump as I round a curve and smash over the broken armor of a dead armadillo, yet my daughter, Annie, sleeps on beside me, one hand resting lightly on my forearm, which I’ve left on the console to reassure her. Exhaustion keeps her sedated through potholes and roadkill, exhaustion augmented by the drone of the engine and whine of our tires, plus the voice of Levon Helm and the Band singing “The Weight,” the live version from The Last Waltz.

As Pops and Mavis Staples begin singing harmony like dark angels floating down from heaven, some semblance of peace washes over me. How much soul and conviction must a white man have to sing lead in front of angels like that? Levon is an Arkansas country boy as rail-thin and tough as the bastards who killed Caitlin, yet he somehow sings with the wounded humanity of a man without a tribe, a man who has known both love and grief and understands that one is the price of the other."


Entered at Sun Apr 23 14:38:11 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Caring

Kevin J; I know how you feel. The phenomenon of collective and personal emotional caring for a team is an enigma. I have been a Leaf fan since 1958. It gets all tied into one's childhood and one's dad and playing the same game yourself and getting involved in something that is both in you and outside of you simultaneously. Then you share it with others who also care and the success becomes an addiction. It feels good. And the failure is a profound disappointment. There's more to this but as I say, its an enigma. I just can't figure out why its so vital to those of us who care. I'll wear my Leaf shirt tonight and hope the boys can live to see another day. I understand and I am sorry for your loss.


Entered at Sun Apr 23 13:24:51 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NWC (again)

Location: The same, fortunatelly

Subject: Sorry for my poor Anglish

Before my smart gb friend 'Rocking Cher' is wondering about cows _sleeping_ free I would post correctly: "due to the regulations on ecological farming the cows will be _SET_ free today". I feel more comfortably posting in Finnish: "määräykset ekologisesta karjanhoidosta tekevät sen että tämä sunnuntai on lehmien ulospääspäivä." Got it?


Entered at Sun Apr 23 12:42:19 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Norbert and fake news

No one reacted here in gb when Norbert told us all about EAST GRONINGEN for a few months ago. This is the monotonious and depressed area in Low Countries where you can get closest to Finland ... have been there for several times. - As an ecological farmer in East Groningen Norbert knows what is the most special day in the year: today is the Sunday when the cows will be slept FREE!


Entered at Sun Apr 23 09:34:12 CEST 2017 from (86.167.98.226)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Yes, couldn't agree more, Kevin. Interesting leading characters. Watched the third film last night. Make sure you catch the series, Bob. We're lucky we get a foreign crime series on BBC 4 on Saturday evenings. But there has been a bit of a debate about this in the press. Some people think too much money and time are given to crime series. Make sure you see Shetland, Kevin.

Interesting musical experience yesterday. Lovely atmosphere in the town - beer and food festival. And it would have been Gerry Rafferty's 70th bithday yesterday if he was still alive. So to celebrate Baker Street, the song was played by a decent band a couple of times in the open air with twenty to thirty saxaphone players playing the sax parts. Brilliant sound. I thought back to the LA Olympics with all the pianos playing Rhapsody in Blue. Baker Street has had over five million plays worldwide on radio.


Entered at Sun Apr 23 08:22:59 CEST 2017 from (24.114.68.76)

Posted by:

Kevin J

That's it.....I'm done ever caring or cheering for a team sport again...all my life and all the great joys shared with family and friends were special...but enough - no more. Only Formula One from now on........So much easier to just blame a machine when things go wrong.

Department Q & Dunc: very dark story lines but I loved the series mainly because I thought the detective team included the two most original and well cast leads in a long long time.


Entered at Sat Apr 22 19:34:02 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: The Garth behind the Norbert

In the seventies I met Garth briefly at the Amsterdam Hilton (yes, the one Herman Brood later jumped off). Garth signet a (Hilton) serviette for me (we couldn’t find anything else to write on): “For Norbert with love, Garth” ……

I framed that napkin and put it over the fire place next to the painting of my mother in law. Since then there hasn’t passed a single day that I didn’t looked up at Garth’s words.

In 2016 I bought the classic book about handwriting on eBay: “Handwriting Analysts’ Profit Guide” by Prof. Dr. Ing. Erika M. Karohs Professor Emeritus of the Graphological Institute in Zurich. Dr. Karohs is the world leading expert in Graphology.

I finished this intriguing book in the middle of a cold night last November in front of the fire place. After I closed the book I looked up to the Garth napkin and thought, sipping some wine, …… could it be that hidden in those 5 lovely words was Garth’s real personality? Was the man Garth, his past and his future, hidden in the Norbert over the fireplace? Could that be?

I took the framed Garth from the wall, removed the napkin out of the frame and made a 3D digital scan of it. With a direct modeling program on my laptop I separated Garth from the napkin. Now I enlarged the words and my quest for Garth started by examining the hugh 3D words.

With Dr. Karoh’s book in one hand and my computer mouse in the other for weeks I studied the pressure of the N, the curves on the O, the slant of the R, the baseline of the B and the E, the size of the R and last, but not least, the spacing of the T. Just looking at everything Norbert would reveal about Garth. Last week I finally finished my examination with a report and send that to Maud asking: Is this the real Garth? Yesterday I got an email back from Maud stating: “Yes” …

So with a clear conscious I can now and here share the real Garth, the man behind the brilliant musician:

Garth you have a need for other people to like and admire you, and yet you tend to be critical of yourself. While you have some personality weaknesses you are generally able to compensate for them. You have considerable unused capacity that you have not turned to your advantage. Disciplined and self-controlled on the outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure on the inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. Garth you prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. Dear Garth you also pride yourself as an independent thinker; and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. But you have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, and reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be rather unrealistic, but others are obvious realistic Garth.

Have a good weekend dear Band fans.


Entered at Sat Apr 22 19:30:26 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

This post is intentionally short


Entered at Fri Apr 21 23:05:57 CEST 2017 from (86.158.93.48)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Welcome back Rockin' Chair. Enjoyed your post. My daughter travelled and worked in Australia for a year - loved it.

Thanks, Bill M. Never tried another album after me choosing the wrong one initially. But he was interviewed by Ricky Ross on Radio Scotland last year and I liked the songs played. Just too much music, Bi;ll.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 22:55:21 CEST 2017 from (86.158.93.48)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bob F

I was just about to recommend the series to you, Bob. - real coincidence. I've just watched the first two series again - finished them on Monday. Waiting for Amazon to deliver the third. Very popular here. Glasgow is a tough city in places.

I've never been to Shetland, Bob. Always meant to get there. I was talking about going yesterday to my friend, who is going up there to work. Still working and he's my age. He's off shore and will live on Shetland and travel to the rig by helicopter every day. Normally stays on the rig.

As you'll probably know, I liked travelling about Scotland and Europe. I always wanted to do the holiday using ferry from the mainland to Orkney, from Orkney to Shetland, from Shetland to the Faroes, and then on to Norway then home. Orkney is brilliant. I still have to get to the Outer Hebrides also. But time and enthusiasm are running out. You see I've got a beautiful island an hour away. Other than those two areas I've spent quality time in most parts of Scotland.

Like Peter and Roger (hi guys), I see myself as a European and can't stand Brexit.

Here's a recommendation. I really enjoyed the Rebus series. But it has to be the Ken Stott series. They are set in Edinburgh. Edinburgh is one of the most beautiful cities in Europe.

Also I am working through the Maj Sjowall and Per Wahloo ten books again as another retirement project. Martin Beck is the detective. They are a must if you haven't read them. A husband and wife team of writers, the books were written in the sixties and they are seen as the beginnings of Scandic Noir. Great books. Am I correct North West Coaster?

Musically I'm spending a lot of time with Dylan and Michael Marra. Give Michael Marra an evening on YouTube, Bob. Mike Nomad will vouch for the quality of his songwriting. Before he died, he would open for people like Van and shared a concert with Patti Smith. Somebody told me that Patti thought a lot of him.

Still enjoy Roseann's music, Bob.

I just watched the latest series of Scandinavian crime series 'Follow the Money' and 'Department Q'. But am now rewatching the Sopranos. First time in many years.

Always enjoy your posts, Bob. Thanks.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 19:23:03 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Punch!! Kick!! Hit...Hit

Bob, you may find this on your computer under the title, TRUMP PICKS FIGHT HE'S UNLIKELY TO WIN.

Canada, Mexico and China are all the dirty rotten guys picking on The Don's boys in the poor little USA.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 17:49:39 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Norm, don't go that way. He's building one very big, very amazing wall, he can build another one. Plus he'll make you pay for it. The Don hates cry baby's.



Entered at Fri Apr 21 16:44:12 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The gloves are off!

Bob, not sure if this news is in your neck of the woods. Now Trump is gunning for Canada's dairy producers.

New York and Wisconsin producers are whining Canadian producers aren't playing by the rules of NAFTA. Our government official said, not true. USA producers supply 5 times as much to Canada as our producers do. The Trump, Trudeau honey moon is over.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 16:02:34 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Family Ties

We do share the MLB, NBA and the great Neil Young. That has to count for something.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 15:56:43 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Shetland

Dunc, we recently finished 3 seasons of a really great television show from Scotland called Shetland. Wonderful actors, terrific storylines and amazing landscapes. Wondering if you're familiar with this show and is it popular in Scotland?


Entered at Fri Apr 21 15:30:57 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Americans

Years of teaching Mexicans, Guatamalans, El Salvadoreans, Panamanians and Quebecois, let alone the whole of South America, have made me wary of calling anyone from outside the USA “Americans”. I found everywhere else in the Americans objects to calling inhabitants of the USA "Americans" though logic insists that long usage make it fine. However, NORTH Americans is the PC term. Dictionaries used to mark American English with US, but some have changed it to NA to reflect that much (but not by any means all) also applies to Canadian English.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 15:16:33 CEST 2017 from (70.26.123.234)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Jeff, like B'rer Rabbit, I'm layin' low.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 15:08:32 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.31)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Mike, You Trucked Up America's Longest Lasting Truck

Now you did it Mike. Norm's gonna be gunnin for you man. That CBC paper you linked with the "Soil Your Undies" ad, well, the ad directly to the right was for Dodge Ram 2500 Series Pickup, and declared that the truck was America's Longest Lasting Truck. So there you go , you are responsible for providing printed testimony from a respected Canadian source that Norm is an American. A fishy American, but an American.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 14:46:05 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.31)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Mike, are you contused? Cause you're contusing me. Norm laid himself off finally. About time. If the old fucker gets himself to NY & brings some dough to pay some musicians & a studio, years ago I wrote the song that can make him a household name. Other than that, if i ever finish this one i have in the can, i'll get to that song on the second or third record in line.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 13:24:49 CEST 2017 from (70.26.123.234)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Web: My link

Subject: Beavers

Jeff, here's another example (linked).

But you should really lay off Norm.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 04:22:33 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.2)

Posted by:

Bill M

I saw in today's NY Times that Allan Holdsworth had died at 70. 70 struck me as a big number, but made sense when I did the arithmetic.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 04:16:50 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.31)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: "The most Canadian thing ever."

Linked.

How to understand some Canadian posters.


Entered at Fri Apr 21 03:16:09 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.31)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Cuba Gooding, 72, lead singer of Main Ingredient, died of drug overdose in his car today. Father of Cuba Gooding Jr, & NYC based bassist Thomas Gooding .


Entered at Thu Apr 20 23:34:50 CEST 2017 from (70.26.123.234)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Joe Reisman

Bill M, thanks for the Hawks connection. I was unaware.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 23:24:57 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.31)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bill, you wrote that you saw Levon perform three times. Could it be you must have forgotten the times with The Hawks?


Entered at Thu Apr 20 23:24:22 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: 8mm colour footage of The Last Waltz

This was on Expecting Rain today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7LxSaBBIkI


Entered at Thu Apr 20 22:24:12 CEST 2017 from (64.229.183.2)

Posted by:

Bill M

Mike N: Joe Reisman went on to work with Hawkins and the Hawks - a step up from the 3 Haircuts, I'd say.

Saying rather than mating? I guess it depends on who's involved.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 21:49:18 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: Liverpool songwriters Sodajerker and just a great podcast with RR on the songwriting of The BAND songs - and some post Band songs. A wonderful way to spend an hour......Hell, the world might be coming to an end soon, so you should all take the time and listen to this.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 20:23:06 CEST 2017 from (70.26.123.234)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Web: My link

Subject: Band names, tonsorial div.

Back, back, back many years ago, back in the '50s, there was a NYC-based TV show called Your Show of Shows featuring a comedian named Sid Caesar, of whom some of you may have heard. It was during the dawn of Rock 'n' Roll and some atrocious music was being recorded and hitting the charts. On several episodes, Caesar joined up with two regulars on his show, Carl Reiner and Howie Morris, the trio donning wigs and then-snazzy R&R apparel and performing songs with mindless, simplistic lyrics like "You Are So Rare (To Me)" and "Goin' Crazy." Caesar called his group the Three Haircuts and achieved some moderate success, I believe, recording the same songs on 45s.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 19:52:54 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Fred....Thank you for that list you linked. I don't remember seeing it before and very much enjoyed reading it. Not my 10 but not bad.......oh, and Ferrari 2 of the first 3 so far this season ! Loving it.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 18:43:32 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Looking at things from the sunny side of life, at least Kim Jong Un does have a better haircut than the Orange Clown.

Favourite band names of all time:

1. Haircut 100

2. Half Man Half Biscuit

Least Favourite:

1. Tragically Hip

2. Prefab Sprout

Welcome home Norm. Glad that you had a fun time.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 18:35:00 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.31)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

In South Canada a slider is a pitch, slide guitar player, or a small greasy burger. /n Rather than mate we say buddy, pal,guy, man, or brother. A while ago people have begun frequently using "boss" which I've never cared for.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 18:03:20 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Impossible to forget

It is of course good to note the loyal respect shown Levon Helm on a difficult day of his passing. It is however impossible to not remember him when his voice is heard almost every day in my life on my own collection of the works of the Band. Also a multitude of radio stations. Watching the many shows on youtube, also interviews.

I expect there will never be a time in our lives when all the members of the Band will not be with us in some form and to me that is the best of social media that we have now.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 17:46:35 CEST 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Remembering Levon

Many thanks for so much joy you gave us.RIP.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 16:40:33 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Without Malice or Forthought

Bob! I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam...... You are right of course however my point is, to those morons, example..... if some one is from Europe then they are not French, German, Italian, Swiss, Dutch or what ever. They are just Europian. That's just stupid.

Without trying to offend.....the thought of being in the same country with Dick head Don terrifies me. It's bad enough being in a country with his cuddly buddy Justin.

In our countries you may hear a variety of replies from people. "No problem" "No sweat" and many other replies. In Australia only one "No worries mate". I've never had so many mates in me life.

A side walk is not a side walk. It's a foot path. What we call a cresent wrench, or adjustable wrench is a "slider". It's a whole new life for me and I'm too gawd damn old to change :-)


Entered at Thu Apr 20 16:34:44 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

My thanks to Levon. His music/their music has made my life much richer.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 16:24:48 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Fascinating Rhythm

Bill M: Thanks for the advice re record stores. I'll check out Fascinating Rhythm in Nanaimo some time and when in Toronto, will find time to get to the hinterlands for those noted.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 15:16:15 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Norm

"They called me an American. I said are you fucking crazy?! I'm not an American"

Norm, why so angry, we're practically cousins. Everyone knows your Prime Minister and our President are best friends forever. I hear they're planning golf dates in Florida and Montreal weekends with the wife's. When The Don gets us into WW3 your kids are going to be right there fighting side by side with our kids. We're stuck together like glue, don't try to disown us. The Don won't like that.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 11:41:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Billy Fury

In doing the Toppermost link, I saw the new and hugely comprehensive article on Billy Fury. Definitely worth reading.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 11:06:20 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Ten best

Link to Toppermost "Ten of The Band" - it was only Toppermost #3, and at that point it was just a list with no comment. However, I think it's a better selection.


Entered at Thu Apr 20 08:38:15 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: 10 of the best...

This may have been posted before (maybe even by me---I don't remember), however it doesn't hurt to look over it again. ; )


Entered at Thu Apr 20 05:10:13 CEST 2017 from (24.114.64.233)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: record stores

JT: The most impressive used record store I've encountered (and also the favourite of the late great Stuart McLean, is (was) fascinating Rhythm in Nanaimo. Hope it's still around. In Toronto I go a lot to Pandemonium in the Junction, which turns up lots of great records and whose owner is very knowledgeable. But my favourite still has to be Village Vinyl in New Toronto (Lakeshore and Islington). Go on a Sunday afternoon when there's live music 2:00-5:00.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 23:15:29 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hey it's good to be back home again

Got back yes-a-day Bill. Scroll back a bit. I gave an account of my travels. I'll send you some pictures a little later.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 22:59:29 CEST 2017 from (184.66.224.75)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Vortex

OK: Since we are reminiscing about the places we went, let me note the closing a few months ago of Vortex Records at Yonge and Eglinton just north of Eglinton. It was a go-to used record and cd store for me for many years. Not too far from there was a place called Ed's Records but that disappeared many years ago, only to show up for a while on Bloor St on the south side. It too has disappeared years ago. If I wanted to buy cds or lps in Toronto now, I wouldn't know where to go. I'd call Bill M for advice. (he knows the right people and places, I am sure) There still must be a few places with knowledgeable people. I also used to go to 'Record Shows' where people congregated and brought their records and cds to sell (Do they still occur?)

I often went to Around Again Records, Kevin, when I was downtown. It was among the largest stores of this kind. There were great stores like this in Vancouver, in San Francisco, and of course, in NYC. But when I was last in NYC, there wasn't much around compared to 10-15 years ago. We've all seen stories of longstanding establishments closing over the years (NY Times etc)

But, as I said before, in Victoria, where I spend some time, we have Ditch Records and also Lyle's Place where there are knowledgeable folks and lots of good selections. There is also the small record store in Fan-Tan Alley. Hopefully, those will remain for a while.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 22:33:41 CEST 2017 from (70.26.123.234)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Thinking today of Levon brings on a smile. The man was capable of brightening my day.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 22:26:16 CEST 2017 from (65.92.192.116)

Posted by:

Bill M

Rockin' Chair: Speaking of progress, how's your trip going now that you've seen Longreach? I thought of you when I watched a newsclip of a herd of curious heifers in Saskatchewan following a beaver across a field. Something you'll never see in Australia. However, if you get out to Perth (which I'd recommend to anyone) and take the ferry out to Rottnest Island (ditto), you'll see the local quokkas (which look like little beaver / mini-wallabee crosses) hopping around. (Or at least they did back when I was young.)


Entered at Wed Apr 19 22:04:59 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Progress????

You crazy old bastards should all be dead now anaways, 'stead of whining away about all those ancient places that should have fell down awready.

Just stay the hell outta the way........it's Progress!!!!


Entered at Wed Apr 19 21:51:42 CEST 2017 from (65.92.192.116)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Nor can I. When I worked in Mississauga I pined for excuses to go downtownm where real life happened and where lunch choices were more than McDonalds versus sports bar. But now I can't be bothered - all 'my' record stores and used-book stores have vanished and so many of the interesting streetscapes have been demolished or pablumised. Even Around Again on Baldwin, which I first visited in September 1974 when there was still a chicken eviscerater across the street - has closed its doors.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 21:35:00 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.92)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Buckingham McVie linked


Entered at Wed Apr 19 21:01:32 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Yes, Bill M and it's not just the loss of music venues but mom and pop sandwich places all over the city and a good number of pubs....the affect on communities caused but what is now almost 10 years of free-money/zero interest rates is profound.......like a sugar high to developers. Bigger and more isn't always better...I really can't stand it.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 19:54:56 CEST 2017 from (65.92.192.116)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

Subject: love is the drug

Kevin J: It's all very sad - Yonge Street and the decline of venues across the city. A total cynic might say that bars have always been drug stores, existing principally to sell the drug called alcohol. That's true even if patrons come principally for other 'drugs' - rock&roll, love ...


Entered at Wed Apr 19 19:27:14 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Friar's Tavern-Hard Rock Cafe to close it's doors to music forever !

Read it and weep......a corner rock n roll institution that Levon and the boys knew so well and where even the corporate guys at Hard Rock Café were smart enough to keep a plaque to honour The Band is being forced to close - not able to cover the over $2 Million in rent per year.......very sadly, another live music venue is not taking its place. Friar's will now be a Drug Store - Shoppers Drug Mart has taken over the lease....one step closer to Mongolia all the time.....If Massey Hall ever closes, I am leaving this city.

See LINK - some cool pictures as well.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 18:27:24 CEST 2017 from (65.92.192.116)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Terronno

JT; I like your characterisation of Levon's singing. I saw him three times - with the Band at the CNE in '76, in '77 or '78 when he (with Jerry Penfound et al) joined Ronnie Hawkins onstage at the Beverly Hills Hotel in North York, and in '80 (?) with the Cate Brothers Band at the Le Coq d'Or on Yonge Street.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 18:08:19 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.92)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jerry, outside of in theory, not all so called "advances" in reality accomplish more than degradation or actually advance anything but theory or destruction. Nuclear power & digital recording belong in the same class


Entered at Wed Apr 19 17:47:42 CEST 2017 from (84.209.147.226)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Raising a glass in memory of the late, great Levon Helm tonight. Five years gone. Meeting Levon and spending a little time with him, in Woodstock and on his home turf in AR... high points of our lifes. The music will live forever.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 17:02:12 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.92)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jerry, there is sound quality. And in that regard there is no sense pressing digitally recorded music to vinyl. If you record analogue, or mostly analogue, dump it to digital to edit & mix digitally, then print mixes to tape, it will sound almost as good as if you went analogue the whole way. But start out digital, then mix digital, but press vinyl, there's no point .


Entered at Wed Apr 19 16:39:13 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Vinyl

As to pressing to vinyl: there are mysteries in the world. It closes a circle. Maybe not so crazy?


Entered at Wed Apr 19 16:23:15 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Gear

Jeff:About Lacy and his iPhone and iRig. Its the evolution of sound and gear and it will continue. Technology marches on and the Luddites will be left behind. Its what emerges that ultimately determines impact. In the end, he still has to play the notes on his new guitar and vocalize the words in a tune or a rap. He has to connect it all together and see if it works and pleases him. The human touch (possibly) can never be removed. Someone has to 'push the buttons'.

Before the pencil and paper, we scratched and etched on cave walls.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 16:09:41 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Experiencing Levon Helm

I experienced Levon Helm: Concord Tavern many times in 1964: At Massey Hall Nov. 15, 1965 with Bob Dylan: Jan. 10, 1974 with Dylan and with The Band at Maple Leaf Gardens and then finally Dec 4, 1993 at Convocation Hall U of T with The Band and Richard Bell and Colin Linden. "I can't help it if I'm lucky."


Entered at Wed Apr 19 15:45:12 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee (aka bassmanlee)

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Levon

Had the pleasure of seeing Levon twice, once in a small club with the Barnburners, and once at the Capitol in NYC with the Ramble band plus guests. Both memorable shows.

The thing I remember about Levon is that he was almost always smiling, laughing and joking. Wherever he was, he lit up the room.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 15:09:11 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Levon Helm

Levon Helm had a unique voice. It was joyous. You couldn't mistake him or miss him. The absolute joy he put out when he sang and played was infectious and so he reached his audience in a way that few artists can ever achieve. That is my take on Levon Helm. He was special.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 13:47:46 CEST 2017 from (74.75.157.7)

Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Rockport, ME

Subject: Levon

I'll tip my hat to Levon today. I traveled to Woodstock over 10 years ago to see him play, shook his hand, what a show. I'm putting together a collection of music for a celebration of a friend's life, and he wanted ""Rag Mama Rag" on it. The live version from The Last Waltz is going on - what a song, what a vocal. Love to Levon and all.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 13:30:35 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Levon Helm; who died 5 years ago today

As this is a Band site, I would like to remember Levon Helm today. Drummer and one of three lead singers of The Band. He died 5 years ago today. Keep On The Good Foot Levon.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 13:20:31 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Enjoyed your report, Norm. More please when you think of other things!


Entered at Wed Apr 19 08:03:37 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.92)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Location: The planet formerly known as Earth
Web: My link

Subject: "How Steve Lacy & His iPhone Are Taking Over The Music Business"

You got to read this. Kid is recording & producing & "mastering" on his iPhone.. And producing for Grammy winners. Twitler is in the White House. Why not?

What is even more ridiculous is morons will be recording/producing on iPhones then pressing the product to vinyl.



Entered at Wed Apr 19 05:16:04 CEST 2017 from (24.114.71.13)

Posted by:

Bill M

Just looking at my UK 45 of Dylan (& Hawks) performing "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues". "Recorded live in Liverpool" it says, sensibly seeing no need to add "England" like Columbia did over here. Maybe most Canadians would have assumed Liverpool, Nova Scotia? Maybe I would have thought Liverpool Ontario, the nearest hamlet to me at the time?


Entered at Wed Apr 19 04:49:56 CEST 2017 from (70.59.84.106)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Location: South of here

Subject: In these times

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iBoxjZmqLMI


Entered at Wed Apr 19 01:09:57 CEST 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Not the "Festival Express".........but

First of all Jerry, I respect your loyalty to Bob Dylan and the multitude of music he has given over all these years. However he is not without sin. I believe I may remember some comments on this site before about his last gigs in Australia. I can tell you first hand I met a lot of people who paid a lot of money to see him down there.

They were (in some cases) irate over the way he came on stage extremely drunk and did a short and very bad show. This was some die hard fans of his down there.

Re: Festival Express. I took a train ride, (my first) 800 miles into the out back to a little town called "Long Reach". A small insignificant but very important and interesting place. There is a huge hanger where Qantas started building their first airplanes which is now a museum. Just across the highway is the Stockman's, (Australian Cowboys) museum. These are wonderful tributes to the pioneers of both cattle and sheep ranching and the pioneers of the air.

Australia is pretty ok. I was right in love with Hobart, Tasmania. I went there to visit my friend Peter. Beautiful little seaport town. I spent four days on Moreton Island just off the coast of Brisbane. We took a little boat ride far up the Brisbane River that too was a treat. Lots of good pictures.

On the north side of Brisbane River, right down is "Eat Street". Just about every ethnic food you could image and all wonderful tastes and smells. Five live music venus going on. Susan and I were leaning on a standup table having a beer and eating a burger watching a super good reggae band. As luck would have it a little black man and his white lady shared our table across from us and this fellow and I struck up a conversation. He too is a musician. He plays internationally in a very big band. He plays the didgeridoo. His name is Jupe and he just returned with the orchestra from playing the Queen Elizabeth Theatre in Vancouver and in Banff and Calgary.

He explained to me that he was there that night because the drummer of the band was his nephew. He said to me, "you see that bass player Norm? He hides behind the key board player like that because he is autistic, but him and that drummer nephew of mine wrote all this original music they are playing. Well shit! you should have heard some of the bass lines this young guy was playing.

They then played "I shot the sheriff" you can't believe how good they did that tune. I got my phone out and made a video. Some how I screwed up so the sound didn't work. I DON'T GAWD DAMN KNOW! I fucked it up some how, but it was great.

Well Australia is pretty ok. Very! expensive for every thing and imports, like a bottle of Crown Royal that cost me $26 in Port Hardy, cost me $59 in Brisbane. Fuel and just about every thing is very expensive there.

One particularly odd (I thought) thing about a lot of Australians, but when I think about it maybe not. They called me an American. I said are you fucking crazy?! I'm not an American. Now here is their take on this "Well you come from North America". Of course their continent is all Australia. So the way they say it, "Well it's all one chunk of land over their, so yer all Americans." yuh just got to give up and shake yer head.

Now the one thing that is insane is the way they drive. It's worth your life to try and cross the street. They don't even slow down. In BC if some one is waiting at an intersection to cross the street, if you drive by them it is a $165 fine. In Australia every one is fair game.

When I was down in Hobart, Tasmania, my friend there, Peter took me for a drive. There was over 30 road killed wallabie. Peter tells me, then the Tasmanian Devils come out at night to eat them as they are nocturnal and they get runned over. I said to Peter, "Well if the devils are workin nights to do cleanup and they get runned over, how come they don't give 'em high viz vests"?? Peter says I'm goin' to council about that!:):):)

Across the street from our daughter and son in law's place, a neighbour Scott brought his guitar over one night. Scott is early sixties I guess. Him and I got to playing some tunes. At one point I never said any thing to him, I just did that chord turn around that repeats in the Weight. He just fell in and started playing it with me and we sang it and that was fun. So it was a worth while trip.


Entered at Wed Apr 19 00:50:03 CEST 2017 from (65.92.192.116)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dunc: Thanks for the shout-out. Been wondering how your exploration of the music of Bruce Cockburn has been going. I'm sure I've said here before that my favourite of his many many albums is "Nothing but a Burning Light", which is a line from a key song on the album (and in music generally, I believe), Willie Johnson's "The Soul Of A Man". Produced by T-Bone Burnette, so has a certain feel to it. Given the comparatively spare instrumentation and merciful lack of synths, I wouldn't be surprised if the ensuing tour is when Cockburn hired Colin Linden's band (including Richard Bell) to recreate the album's sound. But many brilliant songs are strewn across the rest of his records too. Thought of you when I was pulled out a long-neglected album by the Brothers Cosmoline, an Toronto C&W album of late last millenium. Maybe alt.country - I don't really know. Anyway the linked Rodney Cowell-is song stuck me as something that BaRK would do a great job on, with Tom Wilson singing.

And then another neglected CD by Kashtin, a group you may know from their appearance on Robbie Robertson's "Native Americans" album. They mostly sing in Innu and French, but they do a nice cover of Willie Dunn's powerful "Son Of The Sun" - but I'd go with the original - see youtube.com/watch?v=4v1a0OxW18s


Entered at Wed Apr 19 00:41:46 CEST 2017 from (203.10.111.131)

Posted by:

Doug

Subject: Taj

Thanks for the Taj clip Jon. I used to love seeing him when he visited us here in Oz, which he hasn't for a long while now. And yes, he seems to have been grazing in a very good paddock.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 22:35:53 CEST 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Revival and Education

Peter V: Dylan is reminding us of what was and is doing it with respect and dignity. That stands for something. I agree that the songs are not being covered in a 'timely manner' but I think the motivation is different than the reasons that songs are covered. I in turn respect and appreciate what Dylan has done and I feel personally that he has done this as an artist who needed to do this not primarily for his audience but for his art (like his paintings for example). He knows that there will be some financial gain but I really don't think that this his primary motive. I believe he has a genuine interest in promoting what came before and what may be forgotten. Much like some of the lesser known classical pieces that might benefit from revival.

Again, I don't think Bob Dylan is done yet with creating his own songs. He surprises and given that he can do this revivalist thing, I believe he will bring us more primary Dylan.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 20:33:40 CEST 2017 from (65.92.192.116)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: It's not whether or not She screws up, but what your people do with this unexpected opportunity.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 18:15:21 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Taj

Always great, but talk about The Shape He's In … he was half that size last time I saw him.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 17:42:22 CEST 2017 from (86.167.98.183)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Thanks, Solomon. I agree, but there's just too much music. For example, I know all the artists you list, but not all of their work. I followed Sandy Denny after she left Fairport, but Richard Thompson adds to her work undoubtedly. Had some Planxty on cassette, but have really missed out on Christy Moore. I really like what I've heard, but somehow missed him.

Peter, constantly amazed about your collection...to collect continuously and having discarded hardly anything.

Thanks, Roger. I think you have been better placed than me over the years to access concerts. I remember you saying you had seen Family several times, whereas I had seen them once only. But at times, I saw Scottish bands Get on and finish your Toppermost, mate.

Agreed JT, but lost in translation - the bowling clubs I was alluding to are green bowls, which may be seen as a symbol of age. I linked a song you like (I think!) being sung by Paul Brady. Hope you enjoy it.

Finally bought a Jesse Winchester album today, entitled Humour Me. Had never heard of him until I came across this site. I'm supporting the last CD/vinyl shop in my home town and first time I have noticed a Jeff Winchester in a shop. This site for many years has been where I find my music. So keep recommending, guys.

There was another link with Jesse Winchester. The album is from Sugar Hill records and features Jerry Douglas and Bela Fleck. Maura O'Connell is often produced by Bela Fleck and Jerry Douglas and they play on some of her albums, when she moved to the USA. I think this music is part of the 'new grass' movement, but I really only came across this because of our old friend, Dlew's Toppermost on Bela Fleck. I really treasure Maura's American albums. I really like the Jesse Winchester playing away here.

Thanks everybody.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 17:31:11 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

Subject: "Shape I'm In" live 4/13/17 -- Last Waltz tribute

Taj Mahal on vocals!


Entered at Tue Apr 18 17:29:06 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: "The Weight" live 4/14/17 -- Last Waltz tribute

Some wonderful piano noodling from Garth, then an ensemble "Weight" from Taj Mahal, Warren Haynes and others.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 17:03:26 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Good points, JT … there's also an aspect of such homages to the Sinatra era being long after the point. I made up a standards playlist after a couple of days with Triplicate … Julie London on Cry Me A River and Desafinado, Dakota Staton on My Funny Valentine, Sinatra on All The Way, a couple of Andy Williams etc … and it has an authenticity of being "from and of its time" which just isn't there on Dylan's forays into the forties and fifties.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 16:59:13 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: Poole, EU

You never know, Roger … if she's screwed this one up, we might be back!


Entered at Tue Apr 18 16:30:15 CEST 2017 from (80.3.236.231)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham EU

Subject: Paul Brady

NWC - I'll ask about The Renegades around here. I don't know them. Dunc - I do know Paul Brady and The Chieftains and plenty of other celtic artists. I guess I have most of Paul Brady's catalogue and a fair few Chieftains albums. I first saw them at Croydon Fairfield Halls around 1977. Actually, I last saw them there too, at exactly the same gig. I've seen Paul Brady several times and notice he's doing a concert later this year which I'll try to get to. I've got a half completed Toppermost post on Paul Brady that maybe I'll now get round to completing.

I recently bought tickets for Daniel Lanois - gigging at a small venue in Hackney in August. I love his songs but can tire of the electronic stuff. It's music that's better to play than to listen to.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 15:34:21 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: 'Owning music' (not borrowing it)

Dunc: You hit the mark when you commented on bowling alleys etc. I listened to Dylan back to back with other music (Jake Bugg, Paul Deslauriers Band etc). and realized why there is so much negative reaction to the current albums. Its not because they are not good or well made. As Peter V and others said or implied, it is because it is the music of 'old people'. Not that I am not among them at almost 69. It is because it was our parent's music and it never 'belonged' to us. Yes... we never took ownership of Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett and others. That coupled with the energy of current musicians (Americana, Jake Bugg, Beck, many others for me) ...these I continue to take ownership of (oh my, hanging participle). Truth be told, ownership emotionally counts. If one feels detached from the music, it is hard to love it. One can admire it, but to really enjoy anything, you have to 'own it in your limbic lobe'. That's about as close as I can get to this issue. While I have admired Bob Dylan's last 3 albums and while I can hear the good that is played by the band and the creativity of the interpretation, it is not 'getting to me' like so many of his original songs have gotten to me. Because, after almost 60 years, I own them.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 13:07:59 CEST 2017 from (89.242.81.115)

Posted by:

Solomon

Many of the guy's who came from the folk traditions like Martin Simpson, Paul Brady, John Martyn, Christie Moore and Richard Thompson are all world class. I don't think anyone can dispute that in terms of songwriting and musicianship.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 11:23:30 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I have a few Paul Brady … I haven’t dusted them off in a decade. Will do so! Bert Jansch is always great … they’re reissuing everything on CD currently. Dunc introduced me to Mauro O’Connell and Michael Mara too. The Chieftains, The Dubliners, Bap Kennedy all get played. I used to play The Clancy Brothers but rarely now as Mrs V considers them to be fake “stage Irish” in comparison to The Dubliners or Chieftains. I have been pulling out the old Alex Campbell stuff … he recorded all the classic folk stuff. Just found a secondhand "The Next Night Will be with Robin Hall & Jimmy McGregor" LP but haven't played it yet.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 10:45:01 CEST 2017 from (86.169.218.6)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Differences in different countries

I wondered when the GB was busy and now, if collecting habits in different countries showed variation.

I think most people on the GB like folk/country/Americana, blues, soul and rock. Hard to categorise.

Looking at another axis, I see my collecting habits as similar to the Canadians(Hi Bill M) here. I have a collection maybe described as Scottish/British/American, but my favourite band is four fifth Canadian. Canadians would have Canadian/British and American bands in their collection.

I couldn't really discern accurately, regional variations in the USA contributors, but I think there are.

Although I have other Scottish music, these are the Scottish artists, which are important to me - John Martyn, Average White Band, Michael Marra, Stealers Wheel, Danny Wilson/Gary Clark, Frankie Miller,Jock Tamsons' Bairns, Bert Jansch and Rab Noakes. All are excellent.

In addition, I play the Irish acts Paul Brady, The Chieftains and Maura O'Connell very regularly. JT, look up Brady's verion of Arthur McBride and you'll see where Bob got it from.

I play other Scottish and Irish acts, but these are my 'big ones'.

I know Peter plays AWB, but I wonder if anybody else plays these artists.


Entered at Tue Apr 18 10:20:18 CEST 2017 from (86.169.218.6)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bob F

Hi Bob F, I'll maybe seek them out, but there's just too much music. I don't keep up, which is maybe sad, because the last twenty or so years has been seen as a very good period in Glasgow music.

I filled up the blanks in my Steely Dan collection and after spending a lot of time listening and really enjoying them, I'm now listening to Bob Dylan a lot. Although I quite enjoy the last two albums, I see it as old music for older people. I think of Fallen Angels as a competent band playing at the local golf club(an accessible sport here) or bowling club on an oldies night. I'm going to stop collecting Bob now and won't buy the new triple collection.

I think that a lot of the artists I like are releasing their retirement plans to leave their estates healthy.For example the recent Stones album I enjoy, but it could have been done by any competent blues band. I wish I hadn't bought 'The New Basement Tapes' and I never bought a complete collection of John Martyn after his death. I had everything.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 22:19:16 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.90)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

By the way Norbert, that tag is genuine old authentic 300 even. No .99 bupkis. The Lower East Side schmata schleppers didn't play footsie with 99 cent pseudopsychology. They went right for the deal.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 22:06:20 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.90)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norbert, I was buying your presentation for a minute. But everyone knows, even I know that "price tagger federation" is the first sign of an impostor of "Price Tagger Federation."


Entered at Mon Apr 17 20:01:15 CEST 2017 from (100.34.127.122)

Posted by:

PSB

Web: My link

Subject: Langhorne

The above link is to a really nice article on Bruce Langhorne by David Hinckley that suggests the whole "Mr. Tambourine Man" thing is probably another great example of Bob Dylan's penchant for telling stories.

As to where Langhorne bought/found the instrument, probably at Music Inn on West Fourth Street which had all kinds of instruments from around the world.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 19:53:35 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Dear Jeff, I knew I could count on you.

This is the way it’s done:
1) Send me the jacket first, if it’s a bogus I’ll throw it away and the deal is off.
2) If it’s a genuine expensive leather jacket (as you stated) I’ll send it back to you with the money in one of the pockets (I’ll add an extra $ 100,- cause I love you).
3) You receive everything.
4) You Check and you double check if all is in good order and ONLY then you send me your expensive price tag.

This is the standard price tag procedure (defined by the price tagger federation). It’s there for your own protection. Don’t worry Jeff, I do this for many years and can only say it works just fine.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 18:41:48 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.90)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norbert. I have a price tag from a down filled leather jacket I bought in 1999 for a great price ($300.00) on the Lower East Side. If you want to add to your collection you can purchase that tag for $150.00 less a twenty percent GB discount.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 18:32:00 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.90)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bob, it's real possible the videos come from the same label, or uploader, or get viewed by similar demographics, ..... Or maybe whomever else uses your computer was watching those other artists last (ha ha , doubtful)

I didn't care for Louis Berry's vocal delivery, but there's other good stuff there I guess .


Entered at Mon Apr 17 18:04:49 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

As some already know, I’m a collector of pricing-tags. Today I want to share a part of my collection here.

In random order:

$ 0.99
$ 1.99\[stamp]
$ 2.99 [handwritten]
$ 3.99
$ 4.99 [handwritten, scooped paper]
$ 5.99
$ 6.99\[stamp]
$ 7.99 [handwritten]
$ 8.99
$ 9.99 [handwritten, scooped]
$ 10.99
$ 11.99\[stamp]
$ 12.99 [handwritten]
$ 13.99
$ 14.99 [handwritten, scooped]
$ 15.99

Thanks.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 17:52:06 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Louis Berry

Norm, thanks! Quite a talent there! (No relation to Chuck.)

(An aside, does anyone know how the hell UTube decides what to play next? What the heck does Ed Sheerhan, let alone Miley Cyrus have to do with Louis Berry?)


Entered at Mon Apr 17 16:11:31 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Welsh rarebit (continued)

... not to mention "La Petite Anglaise", Peter V. Mrs NWC just discovered the site which shows how to do make-up a la 60's Jane Birkin. After all these years she's going strong in the whole wide world. C'mon Peter, stiff upper lipp! Welcome back to Europe, among free European nations.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 15:13:21 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Dylan/Dead Rehearsals

Dunc, the Dylan/Dead rehearsals for the shows they did together can be streamed on line. Really good stuff. I saw three of the stadium shows, Foxboro on July 4, Philadelphia and Giant Stadium the following week. I remember it being extremely hot and Dylan looking and sounding like he was just going through the motions. The highlight of each show was the Dead doing Touch of Grey which had recently come out. Later that year Dylan toured Europe with Petty and The HB's and was amazing.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 15:00:34 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: English self-consiousness

(Especially to Peter V) Good to see an English band mentioned here ... says the poster himself.

On a serious side: lack of English self-consiousness makes me sad. 'Renegades' was not the only for the many Englishmen unknown popular band up here. The leading Finnish progressive band BLUES SECTION had an Englishman as the leading vocalist: Jim Pembroke. Later on this band became WIGWAM with nothing but Band songs in their festival repertoire. I believe this band was mentioned in as a related band even here.

I don'need to mention Carnaby Street or Mary Quant or Vivianne Westwood or Malcolm McLaren or British blues, do I? The good news is that Mistress Therese will cick in your masochist ass with her leopard shoes!


Entered at Mon Apr 17 13:12:40 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Cadillac - the music!

While almost unknown in Britain, Birmingham's own 'Renegades' had much success in Finland and Italy during the 1960s where they attracted a large following of fans. Incredibly, the group's popularity in those countries was to rival that of The Beatles! Their best known hit was 'Cadillac'. They weared clothes from South States army. They were _very_ funny. Girls liked them, too. The _g_ in the middle inspired the group 'Hurriganes'. Some say that 'Hurricanes' was already occupied. (BTW the same happened with 'Beatmakers'. There were Danish Beatmakers, Finnish Beatmakers and Norwegian Beatmakers.) Former 'Renegades' members started 'Kim and Cadillacs' in Italy. - These facts come from my vodka-clear memory and Wikipedia.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 11:30:04 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Country on the Mersey: Louis Berry

….. his father on heroin .... and he himself was drowning in a pool of crime…... but it looks like he has saved his soul (link).


Entered at Mon Apr 17 06:57:54 CEST 2017 from (173.3.48.90)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Ray Davies interview.

Quite a Ray Davies interview linked.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 05:34:09 CEST 2017 from (65.92.192.116)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: You think Bruce Langhorne received his tambourine as a dowry? Anyway, he and David Rea traded lead guitar duties on the first LP I owned, Gordon Lightfoot's first. Even now, 50 years after it was somehow scratched, I can't even think of "Long River", which seems to have been Langhorne's big moment on the album, without getting stuck in one particular groove.


Entered at Mon Apr 17 02:05:51 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Location: Bruce Langhorne and that 'tambourine'

I believe Bruce Langhorne's instrument is actually a dayereh or ghaval but the name varies with the country/culture and thus the language. It is found in Turkey, the Middle East and the lands east of that It's basically a simple frame head drum usually with some jingles fixed to it.

I don't know where Bruce Langhorne got the instrument. I do know that you can find, in print, the story about him buying it in Greenwich Village. I've seen it in an interview with him, though written in a way that leaves it unclear whether Langhorne actually said this or whether the writer inserted into the article after the interview.

June Skinner Sawyers, in her "Bob Dylan New York" book, wrote that Langhorne bought it in the Folklore Center. She gives n o source and I don't ever recall Izzy Young mentioning it and he has rarely been slow to blow his own trumpet about such things.

Bruce Langhorne was interviewed for what became "No Direction Home" and, though I'd have to check, I don't recall him saying anything about where he got the instrument in that film. Maybe it never came up in interview. Maybe it did but was edited out. Maybe my memory is playing me false. What I am saying is that I can't recall any occasion when Bruce Langhorne has stated, in plain language, where he got the 'tambourine'. I'd be pleased for anyone to plug the gap here.

Meanwhile, let me advance a possibility - no more than that - just a possibility. In 1962, Bruce Langhorne and Brother John Sellers were sponsored by the State Department to take American culture to far-flung places. I don't know the precise dates, nor the specific countries involved. I believe it involved parts of North Africa, parts of the Middle East and parts of Asia. Bruce Langhorne went away single and returned to the USA married! Perhaps it wasn't just a wife he gained on that trip.

John D mentioned that he performed on recordings by Richard and Mimi Farina. There is also a photograph of him performing with them (and Al Kooper) at one of the Newport Folk Festival workshops. The 'tambourine' lies is at Bruce's feet in the photograph.

Finally, let me end by blowing my own trumpet a bit. I have both seen Richard and Mimi Farina perform live and also seen the 'tambourine' in question (at the EMP exhibition in Seattle when it was displayed there).


Entered at Sun Apr 16 22:59:59 CEST 2017 from (114.75.194.96)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

If you scroll down the linked page there is an image of the MFBP cover signed by all five members of The Band.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 20:11:14 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.206)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ, my father woulda preferred new cars. In the 70s, 80s, he bought used cars & worked on em cause he had to. But he was pretty good at knowing what to buy & fixing em...


Entered at Sun Apr 16 20:06:48 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.206)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Nothing wrong with leather interiors in cars, but for someone in the car all the time, -1) you slide 2) in what's more often than not a work vehicle that you're throwing samples, materials, possibly dirty workers, wet dogs, maybe sticking 12' long lengths of siding in once in a while, leather just ain't a great idea. My grand caravan, i actually once in a while had a sq or two of siding inside. Even my suburban, i had cloth... Last leather interior i bought was the 83 Coupe de ville. Did I write 85 before? I had just woken up. It was 83, i got rear ended in it in July of 85. I bought it Aug 83, in St Louis, i got creamed in it in NYC.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 19:31:14 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Keeping those cars running

Jeff - You're right that there's likely plenty of cherry old caddys out there now but the amount of work required in keeping them that way is huge. Same for most classics. The image of back then spending the weekend working on cars with your buddies is true but pretty dam romantic - that level of attention was strictly required and not that much fun, just work. Anecdotally, my 2001 Honda has 300,000 miles on it now. It's a perfect car and all of the '01 bell & whistles still work. Mostly, I hate cars, so longevity potential is the biggest selling point for me. How come you don't like leather?


Entered at Sun Apr 16 18:50:52 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.206)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I bight a 85 Coupe De Ville brand new & it was delightful Pete. That might have been the last big year, or was close to the last. Once they downsized, Caddy's were awful. I can't speak for today's Caddy sedand or coupes, but about 5 years ago, I almost bought a one of the mid size Caddy SUVs. I rented one for a few days, & was in heaven. They are phenomenal.....Then I found a sweetheart deal on a new one. I don't recall why i talked myself out of it.... but i think it was the combination of only leather interiors being available & the fact that the interior was kinda small for hauling around what i was hauling around....


Entered at Sun Apr 16 18:44:03 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.206)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

You can't judge Caddys by yours JQ. A used car is a used car is a used car. There's people that bought 71 Caddy's that kept em running years. But when it came to to used cars in the past, it paid to know what you were doing. My father used to cherry pick old Caddys, pick em for 100 - 200 bucks, work on em, & run em for 5- 6 years or better. Other periods he had a few Lloyds, other periods, he'd pick up Opal Cadets for 25 bucks, run em a few years...


Entered at Sun Apr 16 18:12:03 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: My Caddy

I got a 1971 Coupe de Ville in 1978/79 and it too was a dream when cruising (cruise control too!) at speed in a straight line. Otherwise it was shit, most of the high tech gear didn't work: the clock and the deal where you could ould set any temp you want! The dashboard top had split open and the 8-track gave out quickly. Even though it had low mileage and was only 7 years old I think it cost under a grand. Back then if you got 100k miles out of a car you were very happy; most started having problems at around 40k. Except VWs, which were everywhere in SoCal then. Those 1950s and 60's cars were fun but no match for the easy longevity of today's.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 18:06:00 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Caddy

I got a 1971 Coupe de Ville in 1978/79 and it too was a dream when cruising (cruise control too!) at speed in a straight line. Otherwise it was shit, most of the high tech gear didn't work: the clock and the deal where you could ould set any temp you want! The dashboard top had split open and the 8-track gave out quickly. Even though it had low mileage and was only 7 years old I think it cost under a grand. Back then if you got 100k miles out of a car you were very happy; most started having problems at around 40k. Except VWs, which were everywhere in SoCal then. Those 1950s and 60's cars were fun but no match for the easy longevity of today's.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 17:34:19 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jerry Garcia

Spent some time this weekend listening to the Jerry Garcia Band. Man can he interpret other people's material. The Band, Dylan and Clapton to name a few

Also remembering Levon Helm this week. Wednesday will be the 5th Anniversary of his passing. We all know what an extraordinary singer musician he was; but he was also one of the kindest and loyal friends a person could want. As he said to me many times. "Stay On The Good Foot Son." Plan to watch the film, "Love For Levon" this week.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 16:00:47 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Caddys and Lincolns

By the time we got to the 90s, I couldn’t see much if anything to distinguish a Cadillac from a Lincoln. In those days we were in Florida a lot, and the car hire people always had a “sucker deal” for British tourists which was to upgrade from “full size” to “luxury” for $50 for the week, so I rented both at various times. Both in European terms were awful cars that were like driving a rowing boat in heavy seas, not a match for a Mercedes or a Jaguar. I still recall trudging round a San Francisco car rental lot trying to get cases for a family of five into Cadillacs and Lincolns and failing, and ending up with a much smaller (outside) Lexus 300 which took them all with ease … no tyre taking up half the trunk, no wheel arches taking up the sides, and our hard cases would stand upright in a row. The Lexus also went round corners effortlessly, a feat Cadillac nor Lincoln managed to achieve.

But then we used a 1958 turquoise open top Cadillac for filming on Long Island and it was a thing of wonder. It looked great and appeared to float when in a straight line (and we lined up to drive it). The trouble was that by the mid-90s, Cadillacs didn’t look great anymore, and the driving experience of the competition had changed radically.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 14:34:32 CEST 2017 from (86.170.251.56)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: JT

Thanks JT. I'm spending a lot of time with Bob just now. I like the atmosphere on the Dylan and the Dead. About eight years ago, I filled up the gaps in the Dylan collection (about 7 albums dotted in time from before Time Out of Mind) and am finally getting some time to listen closely to them and those which had been underplayed (when not babysitting).

I read somewhere that the remaster added a lot to the album, but I'm not an expert, and it's a long time since I heard the vinyl album, which I never owned. I remember reading negative reviews.

Playing and enjoying the album just now.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 14:04:27 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Dylan and the Dead

Dunc: You are not alone. I always liked their work together.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 13:43:35 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Thanks all

Someone asked me if I would ever go back to TLW…. take all the effort and the risks again for only 14.3 seconds?

I don’t know ….. maybe someday at the end of my life ….. I would do everything the same, only this time I would hug Rollie those 14.3 seconds and, with tears in my eyes, tell him to live his life to the max, to enjoy every minute, as I couldn’t tell him that he would die much too young ….

Maybe I would even stay for good there at TLW …. and perhaps I have already done that …. who can tell what we have done in the future? … could be some of us will do the same ….. thus, as Peter already said …. keep watching TLW dvd and if, one day, you see yourself, you know you’ve been there too … just like Rollie.

Although the Band is long gone, even now, it brings wonderful people together. Thanks Jan for keeping it in the air and you all for your contributions.

Time to walk the dog and in my head hike Mike Nomad’s path, just for the music.

... and Aretha Franklin still can sing.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 12:14:56 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Back in them there old days..when Cadillac was King & Queen

Why would anyone in their right mind (or even if they weren't in their right mind) have chosen (or wanted to choose) a Lincoln over a Cadillac?

These days...yeah sure I guess the choice can be debated in a logical manner....back back then...I don't think so. Unless you worked for or had stock in Ford, that is. ; )


Entered at Sun Apr 16 11:10:38 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cadillac (Records)

Thanks for more on Chess & Chuck. The $100 for clothes seemed like a rather more tight-fisted version of the old Cadillac stories, where the artist has the temerity to ask for earned royalties and is given the keys of a Cadillac with an arm round the shoulder and a pat on the head. Ten years later when the artist gets a lawyer, they discover that the Cadillac was charged against earnings at full price (no sign of the 20% bulk discount from the Cadillac dealer), plus a 10% arrangement fee, and 10% annual interest on the outstanding amount. Which they still owe.

Beware of generous label owners, managers and agents. In the brief period I worked in this, every item the artists ate or drank, paid for by the management, was recorded in a notebook to be set against future earnings. This went down to a cup of coffee on the motorway at 3 a.m.

In other words, I’ll bet Chuck repaid that $100 plus. Chuck was a very savvy business guy and learned that fast.

The Cadillac was a surprisingly powerful bait. A luxury GM car with added chrome … I mean it wasn’t a Rolls-Royce. And the artist didn't get to choose the colour, or say, 'Can I have a Lincoln instead?'


Entered at Sun Apr 16 08:35:11 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Tedham "Norbert" Porterhouse

Thanks for posting your Nobel Prize lecture here.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 05:23:35 CEST 2017 from (74.12.50.181)

Posted by:

Bill M

Norbert: Good of you to share. One thing though - I thought the photons on the outside of the curve stayed at the speed of light while those on the inside slowed to a brisk jog for the duration of the curve, only speeding back up on the straightaway, where they merged with the new pack of full-speed protons going by. That's why they're called 'pokons', a contraction of 'pokey photons'.


Entered at Sun Apr 16 00:18:12 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.206)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Buying clothes for Chuck

Pete, & anyone else, I linked the Marshall Chess Chuck Berry article again.

My issues start when Marshall states that for three blocks Delmar Blvd is like being in New Orleans. If i had the slightest inkling that was true I'd never bother going to New Orleans...The Loop really is nothing special, but it's better than nothing.....Stating Chuck was very influential in reviving that area refers to a widely suspected likely fact. The man that did revive the area, & owns, possibly as a major stockholder in a front containing Chuck & his estate, is Joe Edwards. Joe owns or controls Bluebrry Hill, & The Pageant, & probably 80 to 100% of the property ( or key property) in the Loop. I've never asked anyone who might know, but it's assumed & referred to by people who have reason to think it, that Chuck is a partner of Joe's. Berry & Edwards have been close since before the development began & Chuck & his music & memorabilia were a founding & permanent cornerstone of Blueberry Hill.

I don't know Chuck really took care of all his kids as Marshall wrote. First hand knowledge, one central offspring has had some real hard times financially. As in not being able to pay the electric bill. Just a couple years ago.

I found this section very disturbing, exceptionally rude & disrespectful." Then in 1963, when Chuck got out of prison he drove right to Chicago. I was 21 ........Chuck wasn’t dressed very well when he came in – his clothes looked a little raggedy – and my dad handed me a $100 bill and said, “Take him down to Max’s on 8th Street and buy him some new clothes. He’s going on the road soon.” In those days, that was like $500, and I got him a few outfits.."
How did he expect him to be dressed , if as he wrote he had just gotten out of prison & drove straight there. Of course he was tapped out after years in jail. Leonard handing Marshall a hundred bucks & telling him to buy him clothes, is possible, but I find it hard to imagine Chess disrespecting Chuck by having Marshall hold the dough & physically pay for the items. Sending Marshall as a guide to the store, friend of Chuck's, and a liaison to represent Chuck to the storeowner, would be respectful.If they were wiorried about Max overcharging Chuck, but knew they;d get a deal themselves, The right thing to do would be take Max on the side say, my pop is paying for this, Chcuk has the cash, but its my father's or my pop is paying, we'll come back and pay you later, or call my father, he'll tell you.. Neither my father or stepfather would have had me pay for the clothes and hold the money & I can;t imagine Leonard chess doing that. But even if Marshall held the money. the right way to tell the story would have been telling it from the perspective as a guide & friend. Not: "I got him a few outfits.." by writing it this way Marshall makes both he & his father look like real bastards.

Scolding The Stones & Clapton for not coming to the funeral was ridiculous. First of all, as possiby mentioned by Peter,, Clapton is ill, and the Stones might be busy. but, when it comes down to it, the only real tie the Stones have to him is a musical influence. No one could claim that The Hail Hail Rock & Roll film forged any great relationship between Clapton or Keith & Chuck, or thst either of them even appeared to enjoy the experience...If Keith and Clapton belonged at any Berry music related funeral is was Johnnie Johnson's. Hail Hail Rock & Roll was the beginning of permanent friendship for both of them with Johnnie..Clapton & Johnnie had a close , easy friendship. .Keith truly loved him, & produced his most successful solo album. Both employed him in live performances, Clapton extensively in those Royal Albert Hall Blues shows, Keith on record & live with the Xpensive Winos. Both Clapton & Keith sent floral arrangements & notes to Johnnie's wife & the ongoings. Apparently no one heavy came to Chuck's funeral. Gene Simmons (ha) was there cause he was in St Louis for a comic(s) convention. Apparently the big guns could really care less at this stage... In Johnnie's case, Bob Weir canceled 3 Ratdog gigs, chaertered a plane, & he, Jeff Chimenti, & Jay Lane came to St Louis for the wake & funeral. Bob performed at the wake.

Marshall is full of himself. I know he worked for The Stones for a while ages ago. He hasn't done shit n musically since. He did open a label, maybe Czyz, or something like that, & release one or a handful of very inferior recordings.

Again, other than the truth and his actual genius i could really care less about how people treat Chuck Berry. the man was a imperfect genius and one of the the most important people in the history f rock and roll and our culture.Socially and musically. But fuck Marshall Chess. If he was capable of caring about anyone he;d have gone to the trouble of thinking before he pumped out a piece that disrespected Chuck, his father, The Stones, & Eric Clapton. Fuck Marsghall chess


Entered at Sat Apr 15 22:00:29 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V Tony Blackburn

No Peter, unfortunately I have not had the pleasure.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 21:32:33 CEST 2017 from (86.170.251.56)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Music

But what do I know. BB Radio 6 had their annual music festival in Glasgow recently and they listed 11 important Glasgow albums. I have the Blue Nile album and Orange Juice's greatest hits, but that's all. I am an Eastcoaster, but obviously not keeping up.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 21:22:15 CEST 2017 from (86.170.251.56)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Norbert. Coincidentally, I played Rollie's album last week.

I'll listen to the Tony Blackburn Show, Peter. He goes back to a time when disc jockeys had to have an interest in music and be knowledgeable about it. Their role was to educate and inform you about music. That was their job.

Now it is to entertain you between songs, host quizzes, get people to wind up their dad on air etc. Some of it is slick enough, but different.

Still some good radio programmes. I like anything John Cavanagh does.

I'm playing the remastered Dylan and the Dead. I really like the album, but may be the only one? And I didn't know a lot about the Grateful Dead.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 17:13:40 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

See what you've done, Norbert … you've created a loop in time … loop in time … loop in time …


Entered at Sat Apr 15 17:11:48 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D, did you ever meet Tony Blackburn? I had an airport run this morning and discovered that he had taken over the late great Brian Matthews "Sounds of the 60s" radio show on BBC Radio Two … a fixture on Saturday mornings here. Brian Matthews was pre-recorded, but it's changed to live … and was much livelier. I took a stack of CDs for the 2 hour drive and ended up listening to the radio all the way instead … though they moved it from 8 am to 10 am, to 6 am to 8 am … perfect for me today. Tony Blackburn used to be the sound of my morning commute in the 70s too … always very good on soul / Tamla stuff.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 17:07:53 CEST 2017 from (172.12.248.174)

Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago

The Marshall Chess piece was worth a read, he's got stories to tell. but we all tend to think we're at the center of every story, and that everyone should fly in if we did. My main memory of Marshall is that Godfathers and Sons segment of the Scorsese "The Blues" PBS series. Chess and the session musicians took all kinds of bows about the great Electric Mud sessions, while carefully avoiding mentioning what Muddy and Wolf thought of that stuff.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 17:01:56 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bruce Langhorne

The title character of Bob Dylan's song "Mr. Tambourine Man" was inspired by Langhorne, who used to play a large Turkish frame drum in performances and recordings. The drum, which Langhorne purchased in a music store in Greenwich Village, had small bells attached around its interior, giving it a jingling sound much like a tambourine. Langhorne used the instrument most prominently on recordings by Richard and Mimi Fariña. The drum is now in the collection of the Experience Music Project, in Seattle, Washington.

In addition to inspiring the title character of "Mr. Tambourine Man", Langhorne played the electric guitar countermelody on the song. His guitar is also prominent on several other songs on Dylan's Bringing It All Back Home album, particularly "Love Minus Zero/No Limit" and "She Belongs to Me"; he also played the lead guitar parts on "Subterranean Homesick Blues", "Outlaw Blues", "Bob Dylan's 115th Dream" and "Maggie's Farm". He also played the guitar for Dylan's television performances of "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)" and "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue on The Les Crane Show in February 1965, a month after the Bringing It All Back Home sessions. Two years earlier, Langhorne performed on "Corrina, Corrina", on the album The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, and on the outtake "Mixed-Up Confusion", which was eventually released on Biograph. Years later, Langhorne played on tracks for Dylan's album Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 15:37:12 CEST 2017 from (70.26.123.234)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Norbert, I've had those same trips through space and time that you described but, alas, no military spy plane in my ignominious past. I passed up my great Winterland opportunity in '76 because of a marriage in near-collapse. But in my mind, and on many occasions, I've been there, oh, yeah, along with Rollie and Jack Wingate and a few others here who are no longer here, in a state of somnambulatory exhilaration. But, dammit, no turkey and dressing; for some reason I keep arriving to the tables too late. Just there in time for the music, man.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 14:19:18 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: F*ckin' around with the space/time thingy

You'd better be careful that you view the DVD of TLW at the proper angle & speed or else that full head of hair could be a Trump-like 'do or something similiar to the one that graces the head of that nutbar who presides of the northern part of the Korean peninsula. ; )


Entered at Sat Apr 15 13:36:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Norbert, I’m worried about what you’ve done to time. I’m now terrified to put TLW DVD on. If we spot you in the crowd, we have to assume that we will then look out of the window, or watch the TV news and find everything else is different. I have a full head of hair. Trump isn’t president. Britain’s happily in the EU, Manchester United and Chelsea are in the fourth division. Bournemouth are due to play Liverpool in an All-British European Cup Final. Each have four players from the World Cup winning England team. I’m plucking up the courage to slip the DVD on and hoping to see you.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 13:30:49 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Marshall Chess & Chuck

The Marshall Chess interview had some snippets of interest. I can see that The Rolling Stones owed Chuck Berry a massive debt, but Chess mentions Eric Clapton too, which seems ignorant of the R&B and blues scene … and lead guitar playing. While The Yardbirds recorded Let it Rock in 1963, and Too Much Monkey Business in 1964, I thought the distinctive thing about Eric Clapton was that he reached further back in the blues, and was unusual among British guitarists of the 60s in breaking away from the Chuck Berry style. I know he jammed with Chuck and Keef, and my memory is patchy, but I can’t recall Clapton covering a Chuck Berry song since The Yardbirds. I’m sure he jammed on a few because that’s what everyone does, but in a long list of blues / R&B covers, Chuck Berry songs are conspicuous by their absence. So what is Marshall Chess's point?


Entered at Sat Apr 15 12:08:29 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: strictly confidential

Let me begin this post with a warning dear Band fan; …There is a lot of fake news around on the WWW at the moment, please be aware, thank you.

I always double check my stories, but this time I don’t have to check a single thing cause I experienced this story I want to tell you myself, although I could never talk about. But just hours ago my confidentiality statement, I once signed, expired. So here it is …

As most of you know after my PhD in physics they asked me to serve our Majesty. For my duty I had to join the united forces in Berlin. I came in contact with the Berlin Brigade (USA) and I agreed to participate in a, back then, secret military intelligence project.

A Convair 6 RB-36D Peacemaker Mohawk, flying at a high altitude, brought me to Mount Weather, Berryville, Virginia.

It was like walking in a science fiction movie there in those huge bunkers deep underneath Berryville. For me, as a scientist, to experience the unbelievable future there was like a kid walking in a candy store.

I found out they were experimenting to bend light around objects, and so making matter invisible. I joint my team gladly and for month we, a top team of scientists, worked day and night exploring the future.

I don’t want to be too technical here, after all this is still a Band site …. but in short … to bend light you have to play with, gravity, space and time.
If light, forced by a gigantic artificial dark mass, bends, the particles on the outside of the curve, have to travel faster than the ones in the, shorter, inside corner. This means that light on the outside travels faster than the speed of light. Now every first year physics student can tell you what happens then: You travel back through space and time…..

It sounds absurd and you won’t believe it but it is actually possible and it already has been done, although you need equipment of a billion dollars or more.

Anyway I volunteered to make a short test trip back in time. Secretly I chose Thanksgiving 1976 as my destination time and my target location was Winterland San Francisco. And so it happened, I was for 14.3 seconds at the Last Waltz. Rick was singing It Makes No Difference, Garth played his little Sax, the crowed was roaring and Rollie sitting next to me and I shook his hand.

Rollie later never mentioned this but that wasn’t his fault, but he couldn’t do so cause I came in from the future. …

Would he have noticed me, later after the concert, that would have altered the future in the past. Now that is not only forbitten by law but it is also not possible. If you can change the future by traveling back in time there wouldn’t be a singular future anymore. Although scientist can do much, this is still only up to God.

Now every time Rollie mentioned his presence at TLW here, I had to bite my tongue, which was not always easy…..but I can assure you …. Rollie was at The Last Waltz, just like me.

Now eat, drink and love … celebrate life … Happy Easter all.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 06:18:06 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Divining Rods - You Don't Miss Your water. I'm Gonna Go Down by The Water

Read what Jack De Johnette said about Garth & the Band. Its brief, but i bet he could talk about them for days..... DeJohnette has lived in Woodstock a long time. My cousin's twin girls were in his local band, on bass & drums.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 05:20:21 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

That last subject line shoulda been Mr. Tambourine Man. And here i was, proud of myself for noticing i had left out the period after Mr & went back to install it.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 05:18:23 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Mr. Tambourineman

Bruce Langhorne has died. ZimmerMen & Women know who he is.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 03:42:19 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Linked is a very bullshit, self serving, & disrespectful piece about Chuck Berry & his funeral written by Marshall Chess. I could go through it to make my points, but pay attention to the choices of words & phrases & you'll see what I mean. It doesn't bother me one bit but it speaks volumes about the author.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 02:15:03 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jerry, Bob, Peter.. Should that have been "Pseudosubseriously speaking" or "Subpseudoseriously speaking"?
I know, I know.........Probably something else entirely.


Entered at Sat Apr 15 01:43:49 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Pesudosubseriously speaking.

Bob,although this is a public forum, the establishment & popularity of FB has pretty much relegated this GB to almost private status. Only the spammers bother us.. So i think there's pretty much a limit to what a generally private forum about The Band and some related points of interest to us that been here a while can pull off these days. If that don't make you feel like a relic I can do better... LOL


Entered at Fri Apr 14 23:51:13 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: aspiring

Thank you, Bob F. I think maybe I'll go back to school and see if I can maybe shed the 'pseudo' and become the real thing. On second thought, maybe no.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 23:40:28 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

JT, as far as I'm concerned you don't post enough. I always enjoy your posts.

John D, just a little sarcasm I guess. If people are getting their point across that's good enough for me. Probably because I'm the one around here with the worst grammar. lol


Entered at Fri Apr 14 21:42:15 CEST 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Friday

Also The Band had a cross to carry …. but maybe that dark side just saved us all .... and made The Band superior under God.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 20:21:15 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: 2X

And while I'm at it, I'll like 'double down' .


Entered at Fri Apr 14 19:48:01 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bob F

I must have missed a thread. What is this intellectual thing about driving people away. I think I might know what you mean; but I don't fully understand. Care to elaborate? Thanks Bob. Hope family is well.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 18:05:37 CEST 2017 from (24.114.65.188)

Posted by:

Bill M

Thanks Peter V. Interesting. Odd that the designated begging day comes but once a year - a lot less frequently than hunger and poverty.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 17:32:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Maundy Money

Good point, Bill. Wiki has a good bit, and in Britain the monarch gives out "Maundy money" to pensioners at a selected cathedral every year, thus "maundy" comes from Latin for begging. Maundy money is new mint coins from the year and collectible. "Maundy money … so good to me."


Entered at Fri Apr 14 16:36:18 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: pseudo intellectual

Bob F: Interesting thought. It occurs to me that I'm not sure whether that means I'm not contributing enough.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 15:30:05 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Food for Thought

I wonder if knowing the intellectual members of the Guestbook are critiquing everything that's written leads to so few contributors.

Kev, thanks for the tip. We will definitely check out The Bureau. Recently loved Spiral and Braque, two great French shows.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 15:29:34 CEST 2017 from (24.114.74.21)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: blowing', like, in the wind ...

Peter V: A church I often drive by always has, at this time of year, a list of special services, Palm Sunday, Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, Easter Sunday. Is the 'maundy' related 'maudit' (damned)? It occurred to me a few days ago that if it did, it makes John Phillips's great song "Monday Monday" even better.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 15:10:11 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: "There There"

And then since we are talking about innovation in speech that grates, there is the recent 'there there' referring to an actuality or event(s). This is not grandma giving you consolation ('There there, Beatrice. It's not so bad now, is it?) but rather its a new person or commentator saying "There's no there there."

So, reaching out like going forward from strength to strength in this, let us fill the airwaves with word brutality so indeed, no one will perceive what the f**k we are talking about.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 14:04:35 CEST 2017 from (89.242.85.9)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Sodajerker Podcast

Robbie was a guest recently.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 11:43:09 CEST 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

And moving forward is so prevalent that hardly a sentence is spoken without its being tacked on the end. Which when you stop to think about it is ridiculous - unless you have a time machine, there's only one way you are going, and that's forward. But maybe I'm being too literal here.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 11:26:22 CEST 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

Another word that politicians around here tend to misuse is fulsome. But reaching out and moving on seem to pepper every pronouncement you hear, especially these days with a provincial election just around the corner. The "reaching out" is especially irritating, as it is usually used in the context of trying to help, when you know damn well that said reaching out is only done when repeated attempts at contact have been completely ignored until the issue goes public.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 10:16:41 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: What's not to like?

So, I'm, like, ya know...then she's, like...and then I go, like,...and she's all like...

Whoa, dude, like...

; )


Entered at Fri Apr 14 09:46:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Move forward …

Good one … politicians love this one. In Britain it became Tony Blair's catch phrase, "Let's move on …"

It was his response to all difficult questions. "So why did you lie about weapons of mass destruction? "

"Let's move on …"

It spread like wildfire through the Labour party, then the other parties caught the virus too.

The other politician virus was started by the nasty Conservative, Michael Gove. This is "End of." It means "End of story." and means I'm not saying any more on the subject. It makes the speaker sound like an arrogant arsehole.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 09:40:34 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Upon General Ignorance …

A fuss has broken out over here over Tesco supermarkets advertising campaign "We make Good Friday Better."

Today is a bank (public) holiday here, and the religious communities have responded … er … robustly. There was never anything "good" about the crucifixion, and the name Good Friday is held to relate back to the reluctance to name the deity, so is a re-casting of "God's Friday."


Entered at Fri Apr 14 09:33:59 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The language nerve

Has this bureaucrat-speak reached (or come from) North America?

We are reaching out robustly to embrace the challenges in the (xxx) community.

ROBUST appears in whatever a politician or bureaucrat says on Radio 4 in the mornings. Why do you "embrace" a "challenge" which anyone else would call a problem? And we all recall that Elvis Presley hit song "In the Community."

IN THE COMMUNITY

And his single-parent carer is upset

Because if there's a challenge she cannot embrace

It is another under-privileged child to feed

In the community (… community)



Entered at Fri Apr 14 08:03:36 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: A bunch of hacks.

Ahah! I remembered. The new usage of "hack" annoys me. To hack is a verb, to hack away at something, and a hack is an incompetent person. Now people use "hack" as a easy way to accomplish something, or a shortcut, secret method... It makes no sense whatsoever.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 07:11:53 CEST 2017 from (24.114.68.38)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I see that Bob Dylan has settled into a nice encore of Ballad of a Thin Man and Blowin In the Wind..........at least the casuals will go away somewhat happy........ But looking at the regular set-list night after night these days one does think back to guitarists like RR and Larry Campbell who Bob would make work pretty hard and just smile for Charlie and think - well as uninteresting as your night may be at least it is pretty much stress free !

For Bob F and any other DVD movie/tv fans, the French spy drama "The Bureau" seasons 1&2 might just be the best show ever made in depicting what the spy life is really all about. Highly recommended.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 04:24:20 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: From strength to strength

So, like reach out and go forward from strength to strength. Whatever.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 02:02:41 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Yes Lisa. "Reach out" has driven me insane from the first time i heard it used by a non wise guy who wasn't relating a wise guy experience use it.

"Crazy" has that newish usage that is inexplicable, as is "sick" and there's one most recent one that is just plain seriously disturbing. I can't think of it.

the kind of slurred, strange, manufactured, incomprehensible accent that people use today in the United states drives me insane, It's not even civil. Why people want to sound like morons is beyond me.

"Shred" for guitar playing is ridiculous. It was started as way to refer to a style, now it's becomes a term used for playing well. It's a horrible term.

Don't get me started on tattoos. guys that wanted to have one, two, three semi normal tattoos, sure, why not? Gals that might want a small one in a non obvious place, hey, it's their body. But these people that cover themselves, and women who ruin their natural beauty, it just drives me nuts. And it's the rage for some time now, and ever growing. I don't get how people don't realize they look like morons. but the question that i always have to ask is why? If you're a Marine, sure. Navy, Army, okay, but otherwise, i just don;t understand it and never will.


Entered at Fri Apr 14 00:11:00 CEST 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

"So" let's all "reach out" and "dialogue" as we "move forward".

(Sound of teeth grinding.)


Entered at Thu Apr 13 23:32:13 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

JT, like as a hesitation device has now passed to like (verb) and like (comparing things) in frequency. So - you can't stop it unfortunately. It is here to stay. Whatever. Nor 'so' as the initial word or even the lone word in a sentence. So? We all have our own language nerve. One of mine is leaped instead of leapt.


Entered at Thu Apr 13 12:53:00 CEST 2017 from (24.69.133.64)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Using words painful to the ear to communicate

Kevin: You struck a raw nerve:

1. Like (every 4th word in a sentence)
2. So (starts a sentence)
3. Whatever (disdain)
4. F**k (ever 3rd word in a sentence)

This is English destruction at its most prolific. These grate when I hear them. I use the subway (underground) in Toronto often now and there are often kids communicating loudly and this is what I hear. 'So' has invaded the media in places like CNN. What next?


Entered at Thu Apr 13 07:18:36 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kev, I, & I'd expect most people that would post here would also be, am totally against cosmetic surgery. If cosmetically improving surgery is performed as part of a necessary surgery that's another story. But I'm against nose jobs for the cosmetic sake of em, even ears jobs for the cosmetic sake. And I'm certainly against breast implants. They're really no fun for a guy at all, & i can't see why a woman would want em. Or even feel good about em. And I don't know why any guy would want his lady to get em... I know some wealthy older women who keep getting face lifts, & it gets scary. If you're old, look old. What's the big deal?

I also think it's ridiculous for guys to color their hair. You're aging. Look like it. Old guys with brown, blonde, or black hair, well, it's just plain old ridiculous...I don't give a fuck who they are.


Entered at Thu Apr 13 07:11:31 CEST 2017 from (24.114.68.38)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Millennials...........

......has anyone else noticed that 99% of all millennials start every sentence with "So...."


Entered at Thu Apr 13 07:03:02 CEST 2017 from (24.114.68.38)

Posted by:

Kevin J

"On a morning from a Bogart movie in a country where they turn back time/You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre contemplating a crime"...........Just heard "Year of the Cat" and realized that I hadn't seen Casablanca when I first heard this song....... I guess massive hits still exist but.....oh what a big one that one was.

on the J.Geils front, if anyone has a wife or girlfriend/mistress looking at plastic surgery - do point out Faye Dunnaway and that should be sufficient to discourage such procedures - yikes.


Entered at Thu Apr 13 00:01:24 CEST 2017 from (75.98.19.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

b.lee: Thanks for the story. Don't be shy - tell us what happened with Charlie Daniels's crew ...


Entered at Wed Apr 12 23:33:54 CEST 2017 from (72.78.140.180)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: J. Geils

Stop me if I've told this one before...

Came very close to meeting the J. Geils Band when they played at my college back in the '70s. The Full House album was in heavy rotation in my Freshman dorm, but this was a few years later. I was on the concert committee and would hang out during stage setup, lending a hand as needed and making beer and liquor runs since the college could not provide alcohol.

I came across a crewman futilely trying to de-burr the top of a high hat stand with a round file. I pointed out that he should have a flat file, and if he needed one, I had on in my car. So I fetched it, showed him the correct way to use it (heck, I was studying to be a shop teacher) and ended up selling it to him, since when I pointed out he could get one at any Sears store, he said, "When the hell do you think I get to go to Sears?"

He then asked if I would like to go "backstage" (the gym's locker room) and meet the band after the show. Unfortunately, I told him, my own band had a gig that night and I was not going to be able to see the show. But I did meet all of the crew, who took a short break to make sure I was properly toasted for the rest of the afternoon. Absolutely one of the most friendly road crews I ever encountered. (Don't get me started on Charlie Daniel's)

My favorite was that they put down a sheet of Lexan and sprayed it with WD-40 for Magic Dick to do his slides on. Showmanship, baby, showmanship. I heard it was a great show.


Entered at Wed Apr 12 20:35:24 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.233)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Yes Bob, early on they were a damn good r & b band, some blues etc. the early records showed that..Their own songwriting in that vein was never great... When they found their "niche" obviously they knew how to connect big time commercially while playing the schlock they wrote superbly. That was a band full of musical greats. Danny Klein the bass player has been doing a J Geils music show for years, maybe he calls it Full House? Magic Dick works too, blues dhows with Ray Norcia, Anson Funderburgh, and Mark Hummell, and duo shows. He recently played The Falcon with an accompaniest on guitar.


Entered at Wed Apr 12 15:05:28 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: J Geils Band

Jeff, interesting points. I've always felt they were over achievers. They were a hard working band for many years. Live Full House is a monster record. Truly one of the great American bands.


Entered at Wed Apr 12 14:47:26 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

The only J Geils Band song I really liked was Love Stinks. It sums up rather succinctly every Italian opera ever written. : )


Entered at Wed Apr 12 13:47:44 CEST 2017 from (24.114.84.232)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

The J Geils Band was phenomenal live. I saw them at Maple Leaf Gardens in '75, sandwiched between Gentle Giant and Jefferson Starship. But I never liked their records - not before seeing them, and not after seeing them. (Gentle Giant was a different story - very impressive live, very impressive on record too, as I came to learn.)


Entered at Wed Apr 12 09:35:59 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Another one gone. I always liked Centrefold.


Entered at Wed Apr 12 09:10:20 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.44)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kev, there is no denying the musicianship of all the members of J Geils. And there is no denying the writers in the band knew how to write hits. But personally, i think all of them have / had far greater musical talent and ability than the music that band made popular. But, again, there's nothing wrong and alot to be said for musicians looking at it as a job... Though it does sometimes prevent a lot of great music from getting made.


Entered at Wed Apr 12 07:58:00 CEST 2017 from (24.114.57.7)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: J. Geils

Jeff A: Thank you. Sadly, I seem to get all my news these days from the Band GB - and most of it grim.............that said, I have a very special place in my heart and musical memory bank for J. Geils Band and the song "Musta Got Lost".... I remember my older brother having it playing on his stereo with what seemed a 20 minute introduction and thinking at the time that it was the best thing I had ever heard ! Later came Faye Dunnaway and everything else but at the time I couldn't think of rock n roll getting any better...I was just a kid and high cheekbones and low cut dresses and all that......

Songwriting: Weirdest thing about the J.Geils Band is that it really should have been called the Seth Justman Band as he wrote almost 100 % of the songs along with singer Peter Wolf with J. Geils contributing very little in terms of composition.


Entered at Wed Apr 12 02:13:57 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.44)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

J. Geils has died.


Entered at Tue Apr 11 10:41:19 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Ian, email me … the editor of a major UK magazine told me no British music mag had ever paid to reproduce a record sleeve, or a record company advert.


Entered at Tue Apr 11 09:17:44 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Questions about images and copyright

What is the situation when one wishes to reproduce, say, a record company advertisement that includes a photograph of an artist or several artists?


Entered at Mon Apr 10 17:37:05 CEST 2017 from (75.98.19.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

NwC: I'm sure he's saving his Nobel thoughts for the next album. This Sinatra business can't be intended to go on forever.

Bob, as we know, generally writes alone, but perhaps we could take in upon ourselves to come up with some song titles. Nothing tawdry like "Kid Dynamite" or "No Bells For This Boy"...


Entered at Mon Apr 10 17:27:39 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Bob Dylan didn't give his Nobel Prize lecture in Scania Northwest either.

No Nobel Prize lecture was embedded in the last (so far) visit in Sweden.

WHAT A GREAT GB POST IT WOULD HAVE BEEN!


Entered at Mon Apr 10 11:18:17 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Unless it's on children's illustrated books, illustration / photo is a fee basis for most books. You will pay more for higher-resolution, and agencies will ask for more if you want to use it for a cover / jacket picture. No doubt even more for advertising. Usually you pay for the size you're going to print it. As with text, and recordings, illustrations go out of copyright with time.

However, galleries and museums will charge for a picture from their collections. In fact they hold no intellectual rights, but you need the copy. A few years ago we wanted a famous painting for a book, and paid an art museum for what turned out to be a dusty 35 mm slide. It obviously dated from the time, decades ago, when museums sold slide sets to visitors. It was faded colour, marked. Awful. And they charged as if they'd been down and taken a clean new photo. The publisher paid, but then we scanned the same picture from a high quality art book I already had.

Wiki reckons that art museums hold no rights to 2D reproductions of famous works. They would hold rights if you took a photo showing it in situ in its frame. I am sure Wiki is right, but on the whole commercial publishers would prefer to simply pay a fee (they're usually not that high) and avoid future discussion.


Entered at Mon Apr 10 10:45:50 CEST 2017 from (114.75.202.247)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

A couple of clips of Rick I hand't seen before.


Entered at Mon Apr 10 08:28:11 CEST 2017 from (210.86.73.92)

Posted by:

Rod

There are a couple of bars/cafes around town that have large images of Dylan on the wall - taken from photos but not photos (eg the one holding the Jazz bass - amongst others). I wonder if they have to pay a royalty for those?


Entered at Sun Apr 9 08:28:32 CEST 2017 from (114.75.203.96)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Just came across this footage of Fotheringay from 1970 including a version of Too Much of Nothing.


Entered at Sat Apr 8 23:20:10 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I assume that their indemnity means they will pick up the costs of any legal judgement. That means publishers can relax (and maybe get rid of their own copyright departments). In the millions of transactions, they will be caught out on one or two, but that's insignificant in the amount of money flowing in.


Entered at Sat Apr 8 22:18:42 CEST 2017 from (114.75.203.96)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I have seen statements in books etc saying things like 'Every effort has been made to find the copyright holder ...... If anyone has a copyright claim over this photo we will compensate them' etc This may be how they provide an indemnity against claims. Unless something is really worth a lot on money I doubt people would sue.


Entered at Sat Apr 8 21:46:22 CEST 2017 from (67.84.77.112)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, what I don't follow is how H-G can provide indemnification from the actual owner of a copyright, if the actual copyright owner is some one else & decides to sue some one who infringed, but paid H-G. I'm thinking H -G collects enough they can afford to settle some rare cases where they get caught, or even lose some. It'd be nice to see them get reamed.


Entered at Sat Apr 8 14:02:13 CEST 2017 from (213.47.227.228)

Posted by:

Christoph

Subject: Thanks für the library

Great library of lyrics - grateful to have this huge resource. Greetings from Vienna!


Entered at Sat Apr 8 10:13:21 CEST 2017 from (114.75.198.39)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Large companies screwing little people. Same old story. This is why I don't have too many scruples about downloading stuff although I do like to support new bands etc by buying their product.


Entered at Sat Apr 8 10:00:53 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Authors magazine has had something on picture copyrights. Someone whose own photos illustrated their book, and put them on their blog free, found they were "on sale" by the conglomerate H-G that bought up every other agency. On tracing, it seems they will supply them (priced by size) and indemnify users against legal action. They did not claim to own the copyright and admit they could be found free elsewhere, but they provide that indemnity.

Similarly, I wanted to use some 19th century book illustrations, long out of copyright for a new ELT version of the story. I had the physical book in superb condition. It wasn't even expensive, so I could have cut out the pages to get a totally flat scan. The publisher preferred to pay H-G for exactly the same long out of copyright illustrations, because it was no hassle for them and they wanted the legal indemnity. To me, it was mad. The book cost £20 and had all 12 pictures. I have a good scanner. They paid vastly more for electronic files of them. Dumb.


Entered at Sat Apr 8 09:30:29 CEST 2017 from (210.86.73.92)

Posted by:

Rod

Yes Jeff, I know. Great lyrics though.


Entered at Sat Apr 8 09:20:03 CEST 2017 from (210.86.73.92)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: picture

Crazy stuff. Never thought it was that great a picture anyway.


Entered at Sat Apr 8 01:59:53 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.178)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

odds are the law firm is representing the copyright holder. Wally, there are all kinds of companies with all kinds of programs that search for both copyright & trademark infringement. I think some are called things like copyright alert system, etc etc


Entered at Sat Apr 8 00:05:23 CEST 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

I feel like I'm missing something here - if they don't own the copyrights how can they claim that they do, to the point of threatening lawsuits? I know a lot of crazy, unfair stuff goes down these days but this seems a bit much ... nobody's challenged or exposed them?


Entered at Fri Apr 7 23:25:00 CEST 2017 from (114.75.198.39)

Posted by:

Wallsend

This copyright issue is interesting. I recently put up some copyrighted material on youtube for teaching purposes with the setting on 'private' (which I had been told was OK to do). A few weeks later I noticed there was a message underneath saying 'contains copyright material'. When I clicked on it there was another message saying 'the copyright holder allows you to use this material but ads may appear in it'. I was wondering how this kind of thing is detected, presumably by some kind of bot.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 21:51:11 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Jan: Alternatively, send Warner an invoice for $1000 for promotional activity. They might just pay it. One hand certainly won't have a clue what the other hand is doing. Perhaps $1000 is so small they'll overlook it. Make to $10,000 and they might just pay.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 21:46:52 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Jan, this is happening all the time. Hulton-Getty (spit on the ground every time their name gets mentioned!) continually put pictures up claiming copyright. In fact they don't have it at all, but a publisher I work for prefers to pay Hulton-Getty as a source (because it indemnifies them against any copyright action).

It's all down to ambulance chasing lawyers. The answer is in two words. The second one is "off" and then ask please demonstrate and quantify what revenue is lost by this picture being posted on this site at lo-res.

The other is , bollocks, just take it off and avoid the hassle, A songwriter friend says he gets several lawyers (spit on the ground) a month approaching him asking if they can follow up internet copyright infringements and get him money.

These people are filth, because at least we can see the motivation of these Nigerian princesses with $10,000,000 in the bank who want to give you half. These filfth are American and don't need the money.

But fuck it, take the picture off. It's their loss of free promotion.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 19:28:09 CEST 2017 from (100.34.127.122)

Posted by:

PSB

Subject: Bert Berns film

John, thanks for your comments on the Berns movie. A friend of mine named Bob Sarles co-directed the film with Berns' son. Bob does a lot of film work for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, for instance the bios that appear on the TV show and also at the museum. He also made the film on Mike Bloomfield that comes with the box Columbia put out a couple of years ago.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 18:24:50 CEST 2017 from (84.212.112.85)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: Weird

We just received a bordering-on-paranoid aggressive e-mail from some copyright protector agency or something working for Warner, insisting that we must remove a small b/w photo of Robbie with Scorsese, lifted from the sleeve of the 1982 soundtrack album "The King of Comedy". If this level of weird behaviour from major media actors is going to continue, a lot of fan sites like this one will have to fold. Jeez.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 16:48:36 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.178)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Someone, maybe 00Kevin asked about streaming pay rates, maybe Spotify... I think it was Kevin in relation to Drake. Well, hit that link & choo gots some perspective.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 16:26:46 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Doc on Bert Berns

As you all know Bert Berns aka Russell wrote Cry To Me; which was recorded by Solomon Burke. There's a great story in the doc; about Freddie Scott recording this song as well. Sadly Freddie's twin sister had just been killed. He was obviously heavily distraught and was in tears. They asked him to come into the studio and record Cry To Me. He said he was much too upset to record. They said, "No Better Time To Record This Song." He went into the studio and recorded the song and you can tell these words are at time hard to get out. It's available on The Best of Freddie Scott. Great story and great recording.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 15:59:40 CEST 2017 from (74.14.7.247)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Dylan in Europe/Scandinavia

A couple of Dylan Scandinavia shows have been put up on Expecting Rain and I have listened. Good to very good. Competent. Stand up well with the last 20 years of shows. The standards are being presented with aplomb while the original Dylan songs are sung well and with conviction. When I listen I am reminded of the commitment of a 75 year old man to the popular song. I know there are differing opinions. Given what has occurred so far in only the first 3 shows, there may be other Dylan originals inserted over the next couple of months. Stay tuned.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 14:29:08 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Correction

Line should read...."I think the Bert Berns doc is one of the best music docs I have ever, ever seen." Jan, we have to put in an edit button one day. We use it here; in Toronto; on a radio forum


Entered at Fri Apr 7 14:26:11 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Location: Toronto

Subject: PSB Bert Berns

PSB. I think the Bert Berns doc maybe one of the best music docs I have ever, ever seen. What a genius he was. I learnt things; about the man I did not know. As a producer and songwriter he was in a class of his own. I was told it was shown here in a docs festival in March; but was not aware of it. The Bang story to its fullest was information I was not completely aware of. His son is to be commended for such a great story. A wonderful tribute to his Father.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 11:37:52 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.178)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Rod, that lyric has nothing to do with Jim Marshall or his amps.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 10:12:53 CEST 2017 from (114.75.198.53)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Interesting interview with Jim Marshall.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 09:47:04 CEST 2017 from (210.86.73.92)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Jim Marshall

I don't mean to be disrespectful in any way of Jim Marshall but these lyrics from Uncle Tupelo immediately sprang to mind:

There's a guitar leaning on a Marshall stack

Used to sound like the sun on the horizon

Now I think we've been had


Entered at Fri Apr 7 04:11:05 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.178)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

JIm Marshall, the Marshall Amp man, died. Linked.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 01:52:37 CEST 2017 from (96.227.58.249)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love
Web: My link

Subject: Philly Band Tribute

For folks in and around Philly, there is going to be a Levon/The Band tribute show Wednesday, April 19th at 8 at the Mermaid Inn (see link above) in the Chestnut Hill section of Philly. The Edge Hill Rounders are hosting the event and myself and other local musicians will be taking part.


Entered at Fri Apr 7 01:18:49 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.178)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: "Welcome To 1979"!!! Get al load of this!!

The home page explains some of this and provide links to details of this amazing complex analogue recording studio/ analogue mastering/ analogue machine and also direct to vinyl recprding complex.

A great operation.

What surprised me is their choice of & deep involvement with MCI machines. Apparently the owner is very familiar with and fond of them, plus found a niche. Yet, Walter Sear, one of the all time great recording engineers,studio owners, recording equipment designers, and possessed of one of the most respected pair of ears and technical minds in the audio industry ever told me to stay away from MCI tape machines, that they sounded dead.


Entered at Thu Apr 6 22:37:03 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.178)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Don Rickles has died.There is a Band connection. Barbara O' has written that Levon hoped to get Rickles to open a Ramble.


Entered at Thu Apr 6 20:39:45 CEST 2017 from (96.227.58.249)

Posted by:

PSB

Web: My link

Subject: Bert Berns film

Since it's been discussed here, I thought I'd let people know that "Bang! The Bert Berns Story" has been accepted for theatrical release, and will be in various cities across the US, starting with NYC at IFC from April 25th through May 4th. The link above is the official site for the film, though all the screenings are not listed yet.


Entered at Thu Apr 6 16:51:15 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Camp Cripple Creek

OK, this looks like fun. Who's in?


Entered at Wed Apr 5 12:59:50 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: The Skinny

Oslo encore: Dylan finishes with 'Ballad Of A Thin Man'.


Entered at Wed Apr 5 06:08:27 CEST 2017 from (114.75.193.38)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Just came across this site that looks like it might be worth exploring.


Entered at Wed Apr 5 05:04:47 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Valerie June - The Order of Time

Unique and interesting; I think you folks here will enjoy it -


Entered at Wed Apr 5 04:05:04 CEST 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

Bonk

Subject: The Hawk

Bill and Kevin. I don't remember that documentary that you speak of but I do remember a magazine interview/story with Ronnie around 1983, 1984. He was pretty subdued and a little down on his luck at the time and felt that the biz was passing him bye. There was a picture of him sitting on a bed wearing suspenders and he was really fat and not too healthy. He was talking about the old days and how he used to be able to light a cigar with a bill and not worry. He also repeated that story of him walking into a Rolls Royce dealership in Toronto and wanting to buy a Rolls and the salesman, thinking he was a nut, asked him how he would like to pay. Ronnie pulled $50,000 out of a brown bag and said 'like this' I remember Robbie and Beverly and a few others from the early Toronto days adding to this interview but I can't remember the publication. What I do remember is that Carol Pope from Rough Trade gave me the magazine. I had a printing shop across the street from where she lived at Charles Street and Bay Street and she was always coming in to get stuff copied.


Entered at Wed Apr 5 03:18:11 CEST 2017 from (64.229.14.176)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Kevin J: Not counting Richard, Levon and Rick - who were always there mainly to sit down and play - Ronnie Hawkins always had a second lead vocalist through the '60s, from Robbie Lane to Jay Smith, to Jay Smith + Jackie Gabriel (an African-Canadian from Springhill NS) to Smith + Gabriel + Tobi Lark (an African-American from Detroit) to Richard 'King Biscuit Boy' Newell + Tobi Lark, to Newell + Kelly Jay + John 'Johnny Rhythm' Rutter.

Jackie Gabriel was good, with a voice a lot like Anne Murray's (probably not coincidentally, also from Springhill), but Tobi Lark was spectacular - so it's likely her you're thinking of. She recorded many 45s in Detroit, mostly for small labels, and many of which are on YouTube because she's big in England's Northern Soul circles. Unfortunately, she didn't record with Hawkins at all that I know of (though Gabriel did - but just back-up); she did, however, allow herself to be whisked off to NY by King Curtis for some sessions that came out on a couple of Cotillion 45s - '67 / '68 I believe.

But in 1970, back in Toronto, she did an absolutely riveting performance of a local pop-rock song, "We're All In This Together". Brilliantly recorded in a church by Jack Richardson and his engineers, with the entire large congregation of friends and friends-of-friends singing along. But it's not on YouTube, and I've been checking for twenty years. However, you can get a bite-size bit of it at the link - though first you have to listen to 45 seconds of its vastly inferior B-side. About five seconds after the clip ends, she turns the intensity up to 11. (And at about the same time a juvenile Kim Mitchell enters the scene on lead guitar.)

Tobi did well in clubs immediately afterwards, including in some stage productions like 'HairAfter' (and come to think of it, she may have been in the Toronto cast of 'Hair' too. No records immediately, however, and only one or two more that were pretty country. She moved back to Detroit somewhere along the line, though I did hear some years ago that she'd move back across the border to Windsor. Some of the videos on YouTube show a fairly recent Tobi lip-synching to her old Northern Soul hits.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 23:22:11 CEST 2017 from (114.75.193.38)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I saw a short interview with Robbie from the Hawk documentary a while ago so I did a search for it but was not able to turn anything up.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 22:20:15 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: Perhaps it was a stand-alone CBC production but I had thought NFB....Bev D'Angelo also is in it as was Carl Perkins and I recall a scene with an outstanding black female vocalist......a much subdued Hawkins in most parts which was a change from most features on him.....what was striking at the time to me was that it was the first time I had scene Robbie Robertson speak since 1978 and TLW.....I can even remember him talking about quart beer bottles in Quebec !


Entered at Tue Apr 4 21:23:17 CEST 2017 from (64.229.14.176)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: A quick look at the NFB website doesn't turn up a Hawkins doc, though it does exist. I certainly remember hearing about it, but I don't know that I ever saw it - maybe because I was abroad most of mid '81 to mid '85.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 21:08:27 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: "The Hawk" documentary

Peter V, has the "The Hawk" ever been shown in the UK?


Entered at Tue Apr 4 19:49:27 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Blues Beatles

These guys are pretty damn good, covering a collection of Beatles tunes with a twist. I've Got a Feeling stands out for me. Yesterday, not so much. Interesting concept, though. I'd sit and nurse some beers to hear them live.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 19:47:33 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

....and meant to add that I don't recall Dylan having any interview segments in "The Hawk"...but as I said, I've only seen it once and that was a long time ago.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 19:45:04 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Ian

A National Film Board documentary called "The Hawk". I watched it when it aired on CBC in 1981 or so and have never seen it again - though I have mentioned several times over the years at this GB of how much I would like to get a copy....It was an excellent doc - and featured Robbie during the lost years and some great stories from Johnny Paycheck.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 19:13:47 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Robbie and Tim Hardin

I looked up Robbie and Tim Hardin in ROLLING STONE for 1980 and 1981 and nothing came up.\ What I did find was a reference to a Canadian documentary on Ronnie Hawkins "now being filmed that will include interviews with old buddies Robbie Robertson and Bob Dylan". This was in issue 329 that had the masthead date of 30 October 1980. This was on the newsstands between 14 October and 30 October 1980 and the date of publication (hidden in small print at the start of the issue) was 1 October 1980. The news therefore seems to relate to September 1980.

Did I miss this?


Entered at Tue Apr 4 18:53:11 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Relentless …

Yes, I think that's the issue. I find myself longing for a change after 5 or 6 because they are so similar. The familiar ones are better because you know the tune. Stormy Weather is the most interesting so far, but to be honest, apart from the best known stuff, I find the songs incredibly dull in a row. And face it, they were purely commercial weepies, no one was trying to be real or sincere with this stuff however apparently emotional the words.

I had Triplicate playing doing routine editing job today, and then had to go out in the car to collect kids and had an Oxford American Southern Music CD on, and listened through. After a day of Dylan on Sinatra, the quality of Randy Newman on Louisiana 1927 was stratospherically better, then you get Mose Allison on Seventh Son. I realised how bored I'd been during the day.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 18:33:42 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Count Your Blessings

We really owe a lifetime of thanks to Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Hank Williams, Billie Holiday, Woody Guthrie, Elvis, Little Richard, Sam Cooke, James Brown, Etta James, Chuck Berry, Pete Seeger, Nina Simone, Buddy Holly, Patsy Cline, Ronnie Hawkins and all the other architects of this great music we love a world of thanks. I couldn't imagine a lifetime of fascination with music if these saloon songs were all we had.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 18:10:22 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Talking About Kings

If you load all three cd's it can get monotonous. I made a playlist of the songs I really like and find that to be a more enjoyable listen. It's great background music. Until the Sinatra experience, I've never felt that way about any Dylan music. At the end of HBO's brilliant Big Little Eyes they had a scene where the actors were performing Elvis songs. I couldn't help thinking how much more I would have enjoyed Dyaln doing that material.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 16:27:40 CEST 2017 from (74.14.7.247)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: I like it

I like what I have heard so far from 'Triplicate'. It has the Dylan stamp on it with the emotions of loss and forlornness as its major attributes. I do like the songs that convey sadness more than the 'lighter' songs. Again, its interpretation here that is the strong suit

.re the vocals; It took me a while to enjoy "Nashville Skyline" when it first came out. (I grew into it).


Entered at Tue Apr 4 16:03:09 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

How are people getting on with Triplicate? I've played it through twice, and am still finding it turgid and much too samey. I found a reissue of Marvin Gaye's "Tribute to the Late Nat King Cole" from 1965 the same day, and that was a serious error.

Listening to Marvin Gaye singing Rambling Rose and Unforgettable shows how to approach and cover someone else's standard. Having a voice of equal range helps a lot!


Entered at Tue Apr 4 15:21:37 CEST 2017 from (74.14.7.247)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Ian W: too many Robs

The album (Unforgiven) was released (recorded 1980); produced by Rob Fraboni (not Robbie Robertson; his name is nowhere to be seen in my research) and with Nicky Hopkins and other musicians/n Sounds like someone made an error in that article possibly?


Entered at Tue Apr 4 14:29:13 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

New to me. Ronnie Hawkins covered Tim Hardin in 1968 and 1971, but nothing connected to Robbie.


Entered at Tue Apr 4 14:21:15 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Robbie Robertson and Tim Hardin

I don't know if this well-known or not but, hunting out something from early 1981 for a friend, I came across a small newspaper cutting from MELODY MAKER for 14 February 1981.

The headline is: HARDIN'S LAST SESSION. The text reads:

"The late TIM HARDIN was involved in recording sessions last June with Robbie Robertson of The Band and Nicky Hopkins"

Does this ring any bells?


Entered at Mon Apr 3 22:32:40 CEST 2017 from (114.75.198.238)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

An interview with Clinton Heylin about the 1966 tour - not very interesting.


Entered at Mon Apr 3 22:17:53 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

JT: Yes, those were my thoughts exactly at first glance. I had forgotten how the recent Sinatra themed tours had become so rigid in terms of songs played.....anyhow, as you say, a tough thing in this day and age to keep everyone happy...Nice to see some variation might be creeping back in though.....Just wish the venue choices were a better fit for the style of music being played.

Funny with Bob, there are always a few songs that linger in lists for years that I wonder about. "Early Roman Kings" is the latest one. While it does work better live than on record, it is the get up and stretch/go get a beer song for me....."Floater" was that one in earlier years..


Entered at Mon Apr 3 21:39:34 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Dylan shows

Kevin J: I thought you posted to demonstrate the mix of Dylan originals and some non-Dylan standards. One might conclude that this shows some understanding of what the paying customer hopes for.

Of course, the song line up does not vary much during a Dylan tour. With some exceptions, this is true for most performers on tour. For those who go to consecutive shows (and there are a significant number of those), they likely already know what they are going to get. Its been a very long time when Dylan varied his usual 17-20 song list by more than a few songs./n Of course the paying customer and even those who don't go but would like to see variation have the absolute right to complain. And from what I read, complain they do. Tough!

I think its a good line up of songs. Ramona and 'Spirit' showed up yesterday. I think we will get a few others over time.


Entered at Mon Apr 3 20:44:31 CEST 2017 from (69.159.60.251)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Dylan's Set-list

Sorry, I guess not that interesting after all in that Bob has started this new tour after a 4 month break with the identical set-list he played most of 2016.


Entered at Mon Apr 3 18:51:11 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Aviation again

To those indifferent to aviation matters, I apologise for continuing this theme.

For Peter V:

Heathrow opened in 1946, before which BOAC used Hurn. It would be May 1946 before a BOAC Lancastrian left Heathrow for Australia on the “kangaroo service”, a service operated jointly with QANTAS. Its first service from Heathrow to New York (La Guardia)was in July 1946. At this time, Heathrow consisted of large tents, with duckboards between them so passengers wouldn’t have to traipse through mud.

By the end of 1946, BOAC transferred its remaining services from Hurn to Heathrow, where the tents had been replaced by temporary buildings that were large versions of prefabs (the single-storey “prefabricated” houses built after WWII). Intercontinental services continued to use these ‘temporary’ prefab buildings into the early 1960s. Even after the opening of the Oceanic Building in the Central Area in 1961, they were still being used for freight services. I had a summer job in one of them in 1966.

For Landmark:

"On flat country some ten miles from the city, adjoining the groups of French-Canadian villages which fringe Lake St. Louis, a great airport was planned. It has since become famous as the Montreal Airport, Dorval": from "Atlantic Bridge", an official British government booklet published in 1945. Dorval was built in 1941 to provide a base for ferrying aircraft from the USA and Canada to Britain in WWII and for the return of the delivery pilots under the Return Ferry Service, which was set up to replace the sea journey which took 10 to 14 days.



Entered at Mon Apr 3 18:28:44 CEST 2017 from (24.114.55.200)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bob Dylan set list opening night in Sweden....an interesting mix all things considered:

1. Things Have Changed

2. Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right

3. Highway 61 Revisited

4. Beyond Here Lies Nothin'

5. Full Moon And Empty Arms

6. High Water (For Charley Patton)

7. Melancholy Mood

8. Duquesne Whistle

9. Love Sick

10. Tangled Up In Blue

11. Pay In Blood

12. Standing In The Doorway

13. Scarlet Town

14. I Could Have Told You

15. Desolation Row

16. Soon After Midnight

17. All Or Nothing At All

18. Long And Wasted Years

19. Autumn Leaves

(encore)

20. Blowin' In The Wind

21. Why Try To Change Me Now


Entered at Mon Apr 3 11:12:22 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

A connection … Sydney is the world's largest natural harbour, and Poole is apparently the second largest. Both great for flying boats.


Entered at Mon Apr 3 11:09:36 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Well, obviously Sydney-Bournemouth was a sensible arrangement for the first land plane flight. You go where people want to go. I have seen ads of "Poole-Sydney. Longest flight in the world" and that was by flying boat (seaplane). I have an ad for Poole-Singapore too. Because they had established the seaplane route from Poole to Singapore and on to Sydney, I'd assume they had the ground facilities and admin established (probably hotel contracts too), so it was logical to bring the first land plane flight into Hurn, just a few miles away.

I'm fascinated by those old seaplane routes, several days with overnights in hotels along the way. The old flying boats were still around in Poole and in Southampton Estuary, rotting away quietly, when I was a kid. Like Ian, I spent much time at Heathrow … I stayed with my aunt every summer nearby.


Entered at Mon Apr 3 05:36:30 CEST 2017 from (24.114.65.23)

Posted by:

Bill M

I pulled a couple albums from a neglected closet for a listen this evening. One was "It All Comes Back" by Paul Butterfield's Better Days. Amazing musicianship, good songs, an appearance by Bobby Charles. Nothing at all to dislike, but I get why it was in the closet. The other was "Paintings" by th Mike Quatro Jam Band, which was played on radio a lot, and which I like a lot, back in the early '70s. I even saw the core group - Quatro and drummer - back then, and thought it was wonderful. But now not so much. Band link: Lead vocals (except the cover of "Court OF The Crimson King") are by John Finley, who sang briefly with Levon and the Hawks post-Hawkins, but who ultimately turned down the gig and stayed with his own group, the Checkmates.


Entered at Mon Apr 3 02:27:03 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Montreal and aircraft (more non-music matters)

Once again, many thanks for all your help regarding Montreal, everyone. It is much appreciated.

To answer Landmark's question, I don't collect aircraft photos as such but I do have a small collection from an interest in aviation in my deep past. I really couldn't help it, having been born just a few miles from Heathrow on the day it opened and in a direct line from its first runway. To add to this, I lived for many years barely half-a-mile from London's very first international airport (long gone but on Hounslow Heath) and I used to pass what had been Hanworth Air Park (there are photographs on-line of the Graf Zeppelin there - all 775 feet of it!)on my way to school each day. All of this was only a mile or so from Heathrow itself, where my mother worked for one of the airlines and where I had several holiday jobs while at school. From my bedroom window and with the prevailing westerly wind, I could see aircraft coming into land from at least 5 miles out (maybe as many as 10) and, at their closest, they were side on and barely half-a-mile away. There was no way for me not to be interested in aircraft. And, being young and interested, older people passed things on to me - photographs, magazines, books and the like - many of which I still have. I have added a bit to these over time, even though my aviation interest lay somewhat dormant for many years.

Peter V may be interested in one of the photographs. It is of a Lancastrian aircraft. On the back is written in pencil, "Lancastrian flight to Britain - Arrival U.K.". It is a press photograph and a little research revealed that it showed the very aircraft that flew the inaugural (post-WWII) service from Sydney, Australia to Britain in June 1945. And the airport it flew into was Hurn, near Bournemouth.

Another may interest Landmark. It is an official 'Trans-Canada Air Lines' photo of one of its Lancasters just after WWII. The photo is taken from the dark inside of the terminal building, with waiting passengers in the foreground but all in silhouette. The Lancaster, in contrast, gleams in bright sunlight, facing them head -on, seen through the terminal's windows. On the back of the photo, in pencil, is written, "Dorval Airport".

I could go on but many of you will already be bored.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 20:41:24 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Canadian Telephone exchanges: Montreal in particular

Thanks Bill M:

Ian W: MA = Marquette (I found this by searching through a telephone exchange research site from the past.)

With a number of clicks looking under the topic 'telephone exchanges in Canada', this is discoverable.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 20:30:00 CEST 2017 from (24.114.65.23)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: JT's right - if you scroll down far enough when googling (or try "jack markow" +montreal) you'll find the guy. One link ties at least one of his photos to an archival fond for John Gilmore's collection of photos of jazz musicians in Montreal from the '20s to the '70s. Including a couple of US jazz great Wayne Shorter's Montreal uncles.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 18:49:28 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: St Maarten

I have a great picture of an American Airlines plane at St Maarten in one of my EFL books. For those who don't know it's a Waynes World moment where the planes touch down just past the beach and are incredibly low over the beach. Not that I've been there. We wanted a picture for an EFL book, and the ones online were silly prices. My son-in-law's sister was going there on holiday and I mentioned we;d been looking for a photo and she said "No problem. I'll take some. Everyone does on that beach." She gave us a selection.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 17:54:16 CEST 2017 from (96.22.59.90)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal
Web: My link

Seems like with the help of others, you may solve the riddle after all. I kick myself for not suggesting that, that may have been a phone number.

Do you collect photos of aircraft? I too am an airplane geek. I work not far from the runway at Dorval airport and have seen quite a few cool things, including an Air France 767 do a "touch and go". As well, my only caveat for going on our winter/spring cruise is that we stop at St-Maarten,whereby we run to Maho Beach, where we camp out at the edge of the runway and film planes coming and going. On my and my wife's Facebook site, we have posted several photos and videos, including the iconic KLM 747 doing its thing. On the beach, we order chairs and umbrella as well as food and a bucket of Heinekins. I even got a massage there.They even have have free wifi on the beach!


Entered at Sun Apr 2 14:30:50 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Dylan and BB / European scandal beauties

Dylan fanatics remember these lines: " "My friend, Bob, what do we need to make the country grow" ? / I said, "My friend, John, with BRIGITTE BARDOT, Anita Ekberg Sophia Loren / Country'll grow." - Should I add : Melanie Trump?


Entered at Sun Apr 2 14:25:52 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: under the radar again

In my continued quest to suggest that there are continued admirable creative efforts in music (and other arts) that deserve our attention, I suggest the site

undertheradarmag.com


Entered at Sun Apr 2 13:18:30 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Less obvious

Ian W: If one looks further down the lists of entries in a search for 'Jack Markow', one does find Jack Markow photographer in Montreal.

If one looks at these entries, this may be the same Jack Markow who is Cpl Jack Markow and photographed for newspapers (ie. The Queen Elizabeth ship) and airplanes.

As I noted in an earlier post, the name 'Jack Markow' still is associated with a photographic company on St. Catherine St. (a main thoroughfare in Montreal).


Entered at Sun Apr 2 11:51:27 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Montreal (non-music) again

A telephone number! Of course! That makes sense. Thanks, guys.

When I tried a search on 'Jack Markow', I got an American cartoonist. And when I searched for "MA 0688", it kept trying to direct me to Massachusetts.

Telephone number! MA = a telephone exchange. Why didn't I think of that? On my first visit to the States, the phone numbers were all like that, one digit longer but similar format. From something else, I know that YU (= YUkon) was the start of Dylan's telephone number when he lived in Greenwich Village in the early days, for example.

Thanks, everyone, for your help. Much appreciated.



Entered at Sun Apr 2 04:24:56 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: DAMMIT JANET

it corrected dealing. it did it again.. dialing


Entered at Sun Apr 2 03:54:47 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Six to seven digit dealing

In the early 1950s, North America went from 6 to 7 digit dealing.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 03:50:32 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Phone number

YES Bill M. I agree.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 03:39:20 CEST 2017 from (24.114.54.197)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: maybe MA-0688 was Markow's phone number? I have no idea when we moved to seven-character phone numbers, but when we did, the first two were letters and the rest numbers. (In Pickering, our prefix was TE, pronounced 'temple' for mnemonic purposes. So the local cab company was Temple Taxi, a pattern that was replicated all over, and I suspect lives on, even though the letters were replaced by numbers decades ago.)


Entered at Sun Apr 2 03:38:43 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: error Ian W

That's MA 0688 (sorry)


Entered at Sun Apr 2 03:37:52 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Telephone exchange

Ian W: After doing more research, it is pretty clear to me that MA 0866 is a phone number and MA is a telephone exchange (likely Market).

Read 'Telephone exchange names' in Wikipedia.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 03:06:00 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: further on Markow

Montreal Jack Markow may have passed away in 2001. There is Jack Markow who was a US cartoonist (as you probably know). This makes the search a little confusing.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 02:55:39 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: photographer

Jack Markow is noted to be a Montreal photographer who passed away in 1983. It looks as if he photographed many Montreal and Canadian-related people and places (school classrooms, etc.) Again, what MA is is unclear.

There is still a Jack Markow photography company on St. Catherine St. in Montreal. There is a phone number associated with that company (a 514 number...).


Entered at Sun Apr 2 02:43:57 CEST 2017 from (24.114.54.197)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: Google maps sugests there's a 688 rue St Jacques in downtown Montreal. Don't know what 'MA.' would though.


Entered at Sun Apr 2 02:23:01 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Montreal 1946 ? (Non-music matter)

Thank you,Landmark, for that information.

I'm afraid that I can nothing to my previous description. There is a three-line hand-stamp on the reverse side of each photograph.

The first line reads: "JACK MARKOW" who took the photos.

The second reads, "Photographer".

The third line reads, "ST JAMES ST. W. MA. 0688".

The above has been applied using a handstamp. Underneath these three lines is "MAY 10 1946" but this has been added using one of those date-stamps with moveable rubber type.

Someone has written "Constellation" on the reverse of each photograph in pencil. There are no other markings.

The two photographs show the tailplane of the same Lockheed Constellation aircraft belonging to BOAC but taken from different sides. The date falls between the following two dates: 6 April 1946 (when the aircraft in question was allocated its British registration) and 21 May 1946 (when it received its Certificate of Airworthiness from the British authorities). This could well indicate that the photographs were taken at Dorval Airport, because this aircraft was one of five Constellations that Lockheed delivered to Dorval, where BOAC had a maintenance base.

Since the aforementioned handstamp does not give a building or house number, is it possible that "MA. 0688" is a Post Office box number where Mr Markow, the photographer, would go to pick up his mail?


Entered at Sun Apr 2 01:00:23 CEST 2017 from (96.22.59.90)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Ian, back in 1946, the postal code(zip code) would've been a two digit number only. Such as 26, whcih was mine growing up. As you remarked, St. James is now referred to as St-Jacques.

Is there a stamp from teh photographer or archive?


Entered at Sat Apr 1 21:43:49 CEST 2017 from (70.49.171.236)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Peter Stone Brown on Chronic Dylan

Peter Stone Brown strikes a positive note yet again.... great commentary and review. Thank you.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 19:05:19 CEST 2017 from (24.114.55.200)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: PSB' Review

Peter's friend Mike Hansen might have the most original take on what Bob is up to that I have heard.....great review - I especially loved the detail and thoughts on the Hawks-Dylan 66 tour.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 17:34:38 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Nothing to do with music; Montreal perhaps

I'm seeking help from our Canadian friends. on a non-musical subject

I have a couple of old 10" x 8" (professional) photographs taken at an airport that I've always assumed to be Dorval Airport, Montreal. The address of the photographer is given as "ST.JAMES ST. W" (no building or house number is stated), which could well be Montreal (rue St. Jacques?).

My doubt arises because the street name is immediately followed by "MA. 0688". The date of the photographs appears to be "10 May 1946" (that's what's stamped on the rear, anyway), so this "MA. 0688" well predates zip codes or postal codes, to the best of my knowledge.

Assuming these photographs were taken at Dorval Airport, can any of our Canadian brethren please advise me as to the meaning or significance of "MA. 0688" in the immediate post-WWII period?


Entered at Sat Apr 1 15:03:02 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: PSB Review of Triplicate

PSB's review is right there of course. I dig how he singles out Once Upon A Time.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 09:34:43 CEST 2017 from (5.148.89.130)

Posted by:

Peter V

Tickets secured for Rodney Crowell in Milton Keynes. Thanks Jeff, both for the heads up and fine review. Margo Price covers one of his live, and it's on the Third Man Records live set.

I haven't got Triplicate yet, but yesterday's reviews point out that it is designed for vinyl, with 3 x 32 minute LPs, so that would easily fit on two CDs. It also quoted Bob as saying 32 minutes was the ideal LP length (which for full quality is pretty near).


Entered at Sat Apr 1 07:37:19 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: The Signs of Old Age. Not even impending death.

Susan's parents, Bob. In that earlier post I meant your wife's parents but typed Ro's name by virtue of synapse collapse.
I can't even get names right, let alone remember all the song details.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 02:57:28 CEST 2017 from (24.114.55.200)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Roseanne Cash

I like everything about Roseanne Cash but especially her voice. Heyday of music video tv, I saw a video of hers and went straight out and purchased "Interiors". Loved the album....a cassette I think it might have been. All those dusty and lost cassettes.....where did they all go...


Entered at Sat Apr 1 02:01:17 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

You sent me to All Music, Bob. The song Rosanne sang was a Rodney composition, "No Memories Hanging Round."


Entered at Sat Apr 1 01:39:43 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Roseanne Cash and Rodney Crowell made so many great records together. Link to Seven Year Ache one of the all time great jukebox songs.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 01:34:43 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I had to think Bob....You get you glasses, I'll get memory herbs... They did a song from her first solo album that Rodney produced in 1979. She introduced it, stated that right after it came out Emmylou Harris told her it was one of the most perfect country songs she ever heard. I couldn't tell you the name of the song. She sang on some other songs too.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 01:28:40 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Jeff, my bad. I thought maybe she got a solo or maybe they would do Seven Year Ache for old time sake. So it was just the new song then.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 01:27:35 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bob, maybe you mean that i mentioned Roseann but forgot to write that she was great? I 'm remiss. Her singing was great. & added alot. The chemistry was superb. All that writing, & I missed. So sue me :-) . Call me pisher... I'll kill myself.... LOL I'm laughing here, cause these are all expressions your mother & uncle & Roseann's parents must have used when their forgetfulness was pointed out. NYC stuff.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 01:23:58 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

John D, you're spot on. The band is great, the sound is so warm and the vocals are beautiful. Once Upon A Time is just amazing. Link is to Mikal Gilmore's review in Rolling Stone.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 01:21:02 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bob, thank you. put on your glasses, or go get some glasses :-) stop being so vain :-). And read more slowly LOL :-)
00Kevin, thank you too.

Shame is, as much as I'm predisposed to not liking the venue, I wouldn't have gone if i wasn't comped to the show. Now I'm more predisposed to going there, but, if the place is packed, & you're stuck in some uncomfortable situation , it's gonna suck. I did have a great , perfectly prepared strip of tofu. Maybe 7 inches long, about and inch and ahalf across & up. One piece of bok choy on top, and several sauces on various sides of the tofu. $19.00. for that, That;s it. Beer was priced about normal for NYC, 8 -9 bucks a glass. IF the shows great, and you are comfortable, that's fine. But this was my first comfortable experience in the place.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 00:50:33 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Jeff, fine write up. Thanks for that. You didn't mention the great Roseanne Cash's contribution? Just got cd today. Really enjoyed listening to the songs on NPR this past week.


Entered at Sat Apr 1 00:25:53 CEST 2017 from (24.114.55.200)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Wow ! Just a great scene setter and description of the show, Jeff. Thank you.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 23:34:55 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Wingin - Thoughts on the Rodney Crowell show.

What an exquisite show. A big factor in digesting the lyrics to many songs was that Rodney talked alot at the beginning of the show, between songs, & between sections of songs . The talk was genuine. He's a talker, not a snake oil salesman, genuine but not earnest, comfortable but naturally polished by life lived. Professional but might as well been talking to friends in his living room. A showman but not a showman.

A lot of the talk & a lot of what plenty of these songs dealt with is close friends impending deaths, & life, how they and even he dealt with it or lived it , and then, their deaths too. He didn't talk about it in a grandiose way, a gloomy way, or a martyr's way. His naturalness gave honor, meaning, or weight without trying to.
Susannah Clark,Rodney's friend since their twenties), Guy Clark, also Rodney;s friend since then, & another friend, a friend with an 8 year old child, are at least some of the friends. To give you an idea, specifically some of what Rodney talked about was parts of the conversations he had walking around the lake ( almost daily i think he said) with his friend who knew he was dying, said he was ready to, but that he had an 8 year old kid who he had to put it all together for and show him that he was fighting to live. And the man fought the good fight, came back some, relapsed & died later.

Musically, well, first he had two pieces with him. His current touring band. Significantly in today's political climate, both are immigrants. Eamon McLouhlin, born in Ireland, raised in London, longtime in this country, a member of the Green Cards band, & now the house fiddler at The Grand Old Opry, on fiddle & mandolin. The acoustic guitarist who might have been named Jim Robinson is from Australia and also is a badass player.. That trio is amazing.

Several songs in Rodney talked about how we're in NYC and you never know who's around & what can happen. Then later on returned to that & stated it's my microphone and i can give it to anyone i want to. He introduced John Paul White, gave him his guitar and he and the band departed. White did one song, & that really showed off his singing ability. He was all over the map, soaring, dipping, the guy can sing. Then Rodney & the band came back If I recall correctly White left the stage. Rodney & band did a few. Then he introduced an old friend, said they had spent many years together on the road, & causing all kinds of trouble, that they were brothers, & that this guy has spent the last fifteen years with the Eagles & i knew it was Steuart Smith. Introduced him, & he came out to large applause. Then Crowell declares: But I had him first! And then declared, either - And I'll have him after. or And I'll have him again. As great as the acoustic three piece was, Steuart Smith on electric guitar raised the ante. He's brilliant. Later he started talking about a song he wrote about what i think he said was three way conversation in his head. And how he knew who to call for the woman;s part, and he introduced Roseann Cash.. ( course, his ex wife, &still a best friend, with love between them, which she alluded to..) John Paul White & she are on the recording of this song on Close Ties. It's titled It Ain;t Over Yet.

Two of the lines in some of the songs that I had to write down to make sure I could relay them correctly, well ,what can you say about a line like this:
"Life without Susannah, troubles me in ways i can't express.". (From Life Without Susannah.)
Or a line like this: "I'm a worried man, on a losing streak."( Might have been from East Houston Blues.)

The first encore was Leaving Louisiana in The Broad Daylight.. Then he said "There's songs that belong to the whole world. Like Like A Rolling Stone." then he mentioned ths one was written by Townes Van Zandt and said that we the audience would have to sing the chorus. He said even if you think you don't know it you do. When we get there, you'll know it. And that he wasn;t gonna sing it, so we'd have to. Pancho & Lefty.The audience sang. Rodney didn't sing that chorus till the last time.

I kept looking till i found the merch table. There wasn't much, or even many discs out. But of course i bought the record, which is packaged beautifully & contains a booklet with the lyrics & credits.. still haven't listened but will manana. The young fella working the merch table actually asked me what i thought of the show. He got an earful. I figured he had to work for Rodney, & asked, turned out he works for the venue.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 21:29:44 CEST 2017 from (174.232.9.56)

Posted by:

Calvin

Anyone see Rumble: Native Americans who rock? Nice long segment on Robbie with some cool footage.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 21:26:31 CEST 2017 from (114.75.204.242)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I appreciate that Eric is a public figure but does him being in a wheel chair really justify such an extensive spread in a paper. If he is unwell, should't the media just leave him alone. On another topic, I liked the Wood Brothers cover of Ophelia, so much better than twenty 70 somethings singing it with fake enthusiasm.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 20:53:54 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Clapton bronchitis on top of neuropathy, canceled gigs.

It's hard for these guys to actually hang the performing up. But, given the physical condition, & the fact that the man has teenage kids, this might be a case where mostly staying home with the kids is the best thing one can do, many ways, for many reasons .... well, it's his to know and decide. I just wish him & his kids happiness.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 20:02:30 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bert Berns

I've managed to get a look at the Bert Berns documentary coming out soon. Van talks glowing of his first solo album Blowin' Your Mind. And it is his first solo album. He was quite happy with how the album was put together and the experience of recording it. More later.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 19:59:32 CEST 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John Donabie

Subject: Bob Dylan Triplicate

I just received my copy of Triplicate. This is just a fast mention of spot listening a few tracks. The 3 CD's is produced by Bob; otherwise known as Jack Frost. The (Sound) of the records is reminicent of the best quality jazz albums one could by. Production is lavish. Intimate. Bob knew exactly how he wanted it to come across. Orchestration is top notch. About the songs later; but congratulations Jack for the incredible production.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 19:55:51 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Trilogy, with saucy bits

Listening to the Trilogy "sample" on NPR First Listen. Had to rewind during I Could Have Told You when Mr. Zimmerman dropped the F-word. What? Not sure he ever used that word in his OWN songs, let alone in the middle of a smooth standard.

All in all, I don't find this oeuvre unpleasant, and his voice is more flexible and pleasant than the critics give credit. Sure, he's no Sinatra, Goulet, or Torme, but hearing these songs in a "regular" voice is not a bad thing.

Lots of stuff to explore on the NPR site. If you want to hear Mr. Z, better hurry as they take down the streams after the record is released, which is today.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 17:38:32 CEST 2017 from (5.148.89.130)

Posted by:

Peter V

I saw Fay Hield with the Full English at Milton Keynes, The Stable. I just wish it were an easier drive. And yes, it has seats with numbers … I share the preference.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 17:16:31 CEST 2017 from (174.228.8.87)

Posted by:

bradley

Location: safety harbor

Subject: unfaithful servant breakdown

Where you go wrong in your estimation is that you assume the word "servant" literally. This gives the notion that the story takes place on some kind of mansion or Plantation and there is a dalliance between hired help and the lady of the house. If you imagine that the narrator is standing in front of a mirror talking to his reflection after he and his woman who live together in a house, it all makes sense. At first he is addressing his image, assigning blame to the man in the mirror, which gives the third person narrative. Then he begins to talk about "we" and "our", acknowledging his own complicity. At the end he is ready to accept responsibility for his unfaithful actions against the woman he loves, the one he might be married to, the one who swore to love honor and obey, therefore being in her service, and she in his. He broke that bond, she found out, she threw him out, and now he is lamenting his loss and the fact he has to go soon. The line about doing it for spite or glory probably relates to the single life that he gave up for her. Just because a train is mentioned doesn't mean it's set in the 19 twenties or thirties or the 18 hundreds. Passenger trains still run today.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 15:15:10 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: A good trend

Anna Larsen did it today. Peter V has done it a number of times. I try to do it. This site has many attributes, not the least of which is discussion of all things Band. One of the wonderful things I get from this site is the suggestions by our constituency members about performers and music that flies under the radar. Excellent artists (some who have been around for many years; indie artists; new artists) are now accessible in so many ways but unless someone brings them to our attention, they get missed. Since I've been here, I've learned about so many of these. I encourage people to put these sometimes obscure/sometimes prominent but somehow we miss them, out there for all of us to experience.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 15:07:48 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Bob Dylan, Serge Gainsbourg and BB

Almost every leading dylanologist has missed Brigitte Bardot as Bob Dylan's (Robert Zimmerman) boyroom dreamgirl. Already in 1969 I had the chance to see a Finnish manuscript with the name "Dylanologia". There was a cartoon pic on BB on the sleeve. I didn't understand a thing! The author published historic novels and plays but never this manuscript. He sat in his chair with a harmonica in his hand and listened to "Self Portrait" - once, only once. That's about Dylan. A shame. - The ironic fate took his life after the same illness as Woody Guthrie's.

SERGE GAINSBOURG was obsessed on her. After being turned down by BB he had only two options: jump in to the Seine or sing the erotic song with another babe who was able - and WILLING - to sings one octave HIGHER than BB.

But I am leading 2 - 0. For the first I am alive and for the second BB has touched my shoulder but - as far as I know - not Bob's.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 15:03:25 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Fay Hield and the Hurricane Party

The Stables in Milton Keynes: Fay Hield and the Hurricane Party: Sunday April 2, 2017.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 15:01:07 CEST 2017 from (223.229.246.71)

Posted by:

Anna Larsen

Location: Norway

Subject: Best Band of Norway

Jaga Jazzist is the best band of Norway as per my opinion. They produce best jazz and rock music. I just love them.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 13:34:10 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Covering The Band

The Wood Brothers doing Ophelia


Entered at Fri Mar 31 09:48:01 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Jeff. I looked it up. Rodney Crowell plays The Stables in Milton Keynes on 26th July. Among jazz and folk musicians, this is regarded as easily the best venue in the country. It is intimate, with the audience up and around a flat floor … and it was designed by the late Johnny Dankworth and by Cleo Laine as a jazz venue designed by jazz musicians for jazz musicians. The sound is as good as you can get. It has a fantastic jazz record store in the lobby, and a small but excellent restaurant. They say it has the best dressing room areas too.

The downside is that it's in Milton Keynes, a rather odd town … Britain's first "new town" built from nothing after the war, and the only one using American numbered streets, except they add V (vertical) for north-south, and H (horizontal) for east-west, so you have V3 intersecting (say) H7. It should make directions easy, but it doesn't. We used to do recordings there and film there. From where we live, you'd have to stay overnight. It's a Wednesday … we're in London on the Friday and Saturday. Don't know if my powers of persuasion can add to the trip …


Entered at Fri Mar 31 09:39:25 CEST 2017 from (210.86.73.92)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Band covers

I'm doing a few Band covers in a A Band at the moment - TTDODD, The Weight, I Shall Be Released, Ophelia and You Don't Know Me. I think of the last one as a cover as I try to do it as close as I can to the 83 Band. I'm not over keen on doing The Weight. I love the MFBP and TLW versions but I can take or leave the rest. Given a chance I'd like to do some more obscure numbers - maybe Strawberry Wine, Twilight and The Unfaithful Servant.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 06:49:17 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: If there are chairs...

Jeff A: I will only go to a show now if there are chairs and ideally chairs with numbers on them. I will consider a show if the venue is small and there are tables and chairs and I can get to a good place near the stage. Like a spoiled child. I figure that with age and aged knees, I too won't tolerate discomfort even to see my favourite performers. Arenas... no way for me unless I'm near the front and that is virtually impossible today. Sounds like City Winery can be OK from what you have said.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 06:41:33 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jerry, i usually really dislike City Winery in NYC, As a result i;ve only gone a few times. i really dislike being very uncomforatble at a music show.. the place usually gets mobbed and the seating situation is usually awful... Tonight was the perfect configuration. My table of eight that really is big enough for 4 had tw empty seats, both on my side of the table. The table to my baCK HAD 4 EMPTY SEATS. i HAD AN AISLE SEAT, & THERE WAS PLENTY OF ROOM across the aisle TO THE NEXT SECTION OF Tables BEHIND us. oUR TABLE WAS FAR ENOUGH FROM THE STAGE THAT THE SOUND WAS DAMN GOOD. The few tech issues got worked out quick. I don't think the room was designed for as perfect sound as it should have been,considering it was established as a music venue. But, if you get in the right spot the sound is pretty good. But in general, I have not been a fan of the venue. This was supposed to be a sold out show. I was comped by a DJ that Garth & Maud introduced me to in nashville. .If it really was sold out, quite a few people did not show up. What a pity. Rodney Crowell is a name, one of the best country artists of our times, no joke. And 250 capacity wasn't overflowing. I will address the following more- John Paul White, Steuart Smith, & RoseAnne Cash participated in Rodney's show. The whole show was A ASTUNNER. i WANT TO GIVE a little though to how i write a bout it.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 06:27:28 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Rodney Crowell and Nick Lowe

I was lucky enough to interview R Crowell at the time his book came out. He was really gracious and gave me all the time I wanted. We mostly spoke about his book and he agreed with me that his LP:The Houston Kid was, broadly, the soundtrack to his book.

City Winery NYC - Nick Lowe will be there for 3 shows, June 9,10 & 11. Jeff, if you haven't seen his solo gig I think you, or anybody, would really enjoy it.

The connection between RC and NL is that they were in-laws to the Cash family at around the same time.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 06:07:29 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Rodney Crowell

Jeff A and others: Thanks. Looking forward to your comments on this show.. Rodney Crowell is new to me though I have heard his name before. I've listened to a few cuts from the new record and have gone back and will listen to previous work. I like his work and recommend it as you do. I'll watch for him. I'm looking forward to someday seeing someone(s) at City Winery in NYC (once ITMFA occurs). Until then, I'll wait and stick to Canadian venues.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 06:03:33 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Crowell, UK shows

With Jim Lauderdale. Late July, one show in Milton Keynes, one in London, one in Dublin.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 05:44:03 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Rodney Crowell Tonight

I'm just back from a heartbreaker & a stunner of two solid hours of live music from Rodney Crowell in a good sized club but still a smallish venue. supposedly 250 capacity. City Winery, NYC.

I will write in some detail about this later as it really warrants proper presentation. For now, this was a magnificent, personal show of well introduced & mostly very personal material by one of the best songwriters & performers in his genre. I was able to buy the new record which comes out tomorrow. Close Ties. If you can catch the show do, but if not, buy the record.


Entered at Fri Mar 31 02:46:12 CEST 2017 from (96.227.58.249)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love
Web: My link

Subject: More Bang For Your Buck

Recently here there was discussion about Van Morrison's Bang Recordings. He has apparently authorized a release of all his work on Bang. (See the link for Rolling Stone article).


Entered at Fri Mar 31 01:36:04 CEST 2017 from (114.75.203.213)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I think it is great if bar bands or young folk want to play Robbie's songs but what I am not keen on are the over-indulgent 'all-star' ensembles.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 23:46:05 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.109)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Kevin. Drake's official bio & his tour schedule will give you an idea where his gelt comes from.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 23:03:57 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.109)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Streams. Piss on Em.

Kevin. streams pay the sound recording owner between a tenth of a penny and nine tenths of a penny (If that is a label, it's the label's responsibility to pay the artist his possibly various shares of that)

. I suspect that a stream of healthy piss is worth more per oz if you want to sell your urine to impure athletes, drug addicts, & paroled ex convicts who have to pass urine tests for drugs.. three million streams at the top end 9/10 of a penny i think is 270K. There is some more money from streams, but it;s also not very significant compared to past forms of income for music. that's not where Drake is making his money. Drake gets real radio airplay, and gawd knows how many other sources of income his music & his general career has.

Going to see Rodney Crowell tonight courtesy of a very nice disc jockey.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 22:57:14 CEST 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

I see it as a good thing that they are playing this music.Yes,what they label it is ridiculous but given how few young people care about this music I'm overjoyed to see young folk getting into it at all.Heck,these days I'm happy they still play instruments!


Entered at Thu Mar 30 21:58:25 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.109)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jed. Yes. Keeping the music of the past alive is a great and important thing. But there's ways to do it, and there's ways (not) to do it.

But, at least to me there's something essential about preferring quality and also preferring honest marketing and also not solely relying upon another act's music to keep a band afloat and make a living.

That "Brooklyn Is the Band" title for a show really strikes me as nothing but schmucky, and the epitome of chutzpah. Some one in the marketing or booking department at the venue probably came up with it.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 21:52:41 CEST 2017 from (76.69.47.46)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Fight The Power

Not completely sure what this means – maybe Jeff could enlighten us as to the monetary consequences – but I just saw a headline that hip hop artist Drake has a new album out that has received over 300 million streams ! As a by the way, I pass a house he is building in Toronto’s Bridal Path neighbourhood almost every day and his place ( ½ built now with most of the framing up ) seems set to be the biggest and most extravagant of the lot. His neighbours include Conrad Black just up the street and almost directly across the street is Gordon Lightfoot’s place. Starting price for a house on that street is about $15M……….So, there is obviously some money in them “streams” !

Does anyone cover famous Rap songs !


Entered at Thu Mar 30 20:19:05 CEST 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Tributes

For too many years too many people never heard of or forgot about The Band.Today us hard core fans bemoan all the lousy tributes & tribute bands & tours dedicated to The Band.Better to be forgotten?Better to be imperfectly remembered?


Entered at Thu Mar 30 17:52:54 CEST 2017 from (173.3.50.109)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Right now there is a show about to happen titled "Brooklyn Is The Band." You can imagine how ridiculous & offensive I find the title of the show. I linked it.

It's at Brooklyn Bowl.

They're doing another Brooklyn Is The Band show in August with The Midnight Ramble Bad. I still think the title used to promote the show is ridiculous & offensive.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 16:47:58 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: covering The Band

Hi, no worries Kevin... different strokes etc. I think this debate about substandard performances of Band songs has gone on as long as this guestbook has existed... Rick Danko himself certainly got some rough reviews here circa the mid-to-late 90s. The Mavis clip takes time to get going but for me the spirit is very much there in the end.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 15:58:39 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

However rough the bar band, I am thrilled when they do The Weight or any Band song. No, they won't do it as well as The Band did, but who cares? It's live, it's in the room. On which Simone Felice doing I Shall Be Released has been superb every time I've seen it.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 15:27:18 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Covers and tributes

I too appreciate creative efforts by artists/ performers to cover music on record and perform on stage. Of course, its not aways up to standard for some. I agree with Bob F that music is kept alive in this way. A good example is the continued delivery by orchestras of classical works by the likes of Beethoven and Mozart etc. That music would have disappeared long ago if not for the recreation of that music by contemporary performances on record and in the music halls. The example of the blues is excellent proof of what the result is when current performers bring to the forefront music that is almost forgotten or has never been appreciated by many.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 14:55:05 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Personally I love when I go to a show and hear a Band song. Happens all the time around here. The Weight is usually performed as a celebration. What is going to keep The Band songs alive for future generations is other artists performing the songs. I would imagine this is how young fans of groups like Morning Jacket hear Band music for the first time. They go home after the show hit you tube and eventually end up at the source. Similar to what English bands did for the blues back in the day.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 13:01:09 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just had a mental picture of Jimmy Page hanging around in guitar shops demanding performance fees from everyone who plays Stairway to Heaven.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 09:33:22 CEST 2017 from (73.119.115.178)

Posted by:

Dave H

Kevin: A case like what you describe is rarely brought and even more rarely won, and parody like what Weird Al Yankovic does is expressly legally protected. Weird Al himself has a policy of asking the subjects of his parodies for permission, but that is purely voluntary on his part and is not required by law. Jimmy Page couldn't stop anyone from recording Stairway to Heaven any more than you or I could.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 05:18:07 CEST 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: retreads

Kevin & Wallsend: whether RR could refuse more live performances of The Weight or not, your larger point's well-taken. I'd agree, at least re: that particular version from '14 somebody linked, Mavis' voice is not at all what it was. But then, who of us are. In fact the only voice from that was (I think it was ) Michael MacDonald. I've commented here before how much Gregg struggles in the present days; it made good sense to me that Derek & Warren Haynes called a halt to the Allbros. Of course, w/ no Butch now, it'll never be again. I suspect these collapsing voices are common at some age. Listening to Jackson Browne from that Wild Honey shindig in LA or even a couple of years back in NYC singing Running on Empty... voice is not well-aged, just worn.

Puts me in mind, despite well-deserved accolades upon his demise, that having seen James Cotton about 7 or 8 years ago, he barely made it through an hour in a pretty small venue. Perhaps he really was just under the weather that night; as I recall he hardly played the harp atall. It was a bummer evening, I know that. But it also puts in mind of Levon's comments about what else would he want to do. Like they mineswell just put him jail if he couldn't play music. Or Dr. John saying you mineswell be "selling shoes" or something else if you take these folks away from instruments, microphones and the like. Probably applies to Mavis.

Not be sacreligious, but honestly the bloom's been off The Weight for me for a while, at least compared to TNTDODD, King Harvest, Life is, Makes no Diff, Cripple Creek, probably another 5 or 6. I compare it to Allbros "Rambling Man" or say "Every Breathe you Take", just way overplayed. I would say TLW-40 at least had 1st rate musicians w/ Haynes, MacDonald, Don Was, etc. So far that Wild Honey show seems like the heft of the people never played these songs before. Certainly scrimped on rehearsals, at least to these novice ears.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 03:49:13 CEST 2017 from (24.114.55.200)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Not really true Dave - an artist can prevent/block a recording or performance if one makes the case that such a performance will be damaging to the original work of art. Prince and J. Page have been successful for years in blocking that curly haired Weird Al from performing their songs......


Entered at Thu Mar 30 03:35:44 CEST 2017 from (64.229.14.176)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dave H: True - however much we might wish it was otherwise.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 03:26:01 CEST 2017 from (73.119.115.178)

Posted by:

Dave H

It's not legally possible to prevent other people from performing or recording a song once it has been released.


Entered at Thu Mar 30 00:19:03 CEST 2017 from (24.114.55.200)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: It Ain't Over Yet

Bob F: Belated thanks for the mentions of Rodney Crowell and NPR. I've been having some fun adding RC songs to my collection.

Jon: No offence taken about your link I hope......I'll open or read anything you post such is my respect for your tastes.....but hearing guitarists screw up the intro o The Weight gets me every time !


Entered at Wed Mar 29 21:09:36 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Naked honesty

Bob F: With that kind of naked honesty what more can be said about the human condition.


Entered at Wed Mar 29 20:35:41 CEST 2017 from (114.75.199.62)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I agree about The Weight and the ban should also be extended to all reenactments of the The Last Waltz. I understand why Robbie doesn't want to have anything to do with them.


Entered at Wed Mar 29 20:03:01 CEST 2017 from (76.69.47.46)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Stop The Weight

A part of me wishes Robbie or publisher holder Bob Dylan would pull a Jimmy Page (Page refuses to allow other artists to record and even strongly discourages performances by others of “Stairway To Heaven”) and ban all future performances of “The Weight”…….the once out of this world great Mavis Staples doesn’t have much of a voice left and her screaming at this point is hard to take ( oh, what glorious soul she once demonstrated on everything she sang ) but NO EXCUSE for her guitarist to not even have bothered to learn the song properly………like chalk on the blackboard that performance was.


Entered at Wed Mar 29 19:35:24 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: JT's recommendation - Mount Eerie A Crow Looked At Me

Mount Eerie's very sad beautiful new record is on NPR First Listen along with some songs from Triplicate plus Aimee Mann's and Rodney Crowell's new records.


Entered at Wed Mar 29 19:31:17 CEST 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Alias

As noted, Jack Frost, Elston Gunn, Blind Boy Grunt and Robert Zimmerman will all meet in an intimate setting in Stockholm. The speech....see my previous entries today.


Entered at Wed Mar 29 19:30:29 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NWC

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: "Who's gonna throw that Minstrel Boy a coin?"

... but not a word from Mr. Dylan of taking Nobel Prize money 8.000.000 Swedish crowns (but maybe later?).


Entered at Wed Mar 29 18:50:43 CEST 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Nortwest

Subject: The lead singer of The Golden Chords

From the blog of the Secretary of the Swedish Academy:

"The good news is that the Swedish Academy and Bob Dylan have decided to meet this weekend. The Academy will then hand over Dylan’s Nobel diploma and the Nobel medal, and congratulate him on the Nobel Prize in Literature. The setting will be small and intimate, and no media will be present; only Bob Dylan and members of the Academy will attend, all according to Dylan’s wishes.


Entered at Wed Mar 29 17:56:08 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Mavis and friends -- The Weight, 2014

Mavis Staples and a lot of other familiar faces performing The Weight. (Stay to the end...)


Entered at Wed Mar 29 16:40:21 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: $$$

It might cost you multi bucks.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Oscar Wilde says....

Mind you: “There's only one thing worse than mailing it in, and that is not mailing it in”

as per Oscar Wilde


Entered at Wed Mar 29 16:35:52 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: 'Mail It In'

Weather it is sporting events, music events, or speeches... sometimes the athlete(s)/performer(s) 'mail it in'.


Entered at Tue Mar 28 15:48:35 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 1966 albums

As well as Blonde on Blonde and Revolver, 1966 saw The Beach Boys' Pet Sounds, which also does well in those critics polls of polls. Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme? Not their best, but still a contender. Add Aftermath by The Rolling Stones. Otis Blue was a 1966 hit, but a 1965 release.

Add "The Small Faces" (first LP - in the Top 5 for weeks), Autimn 66 by Spencer Davis Group, Blues Breakers by John Mayall with Eric Clapton.

Sinatra did well in he UK charts in 1966 … better than the previous few years.

However, there are three consistently in "Best Albums Of All Times" lists … Pet Sounds, Blonde on Blonde and Revolver.


Entered at Tue Mar 28 15:36:32 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Mount Eerie, Phil Elverum, The Microphones (in another life)

Check out Mount Eerie (Phil Elverum) formerly The Microphones with a body of work which is highly regarded. Under the radar for many years but I predict, not for long, with his latest release. A new 'find' for me. I love when this happens.


Entered at Tue Mar 28 10:53:23 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Studs Terkel - Bob Dylan

I came across this interview of Bob Dylan by Studs Terkel from 1963.


Entered at Tue Mar 28 08:57:59 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

My maternal grandmother, who did suffer from arthritis---in her right knee--called it "Art-ristis". She wasn't too hung up on formalities. Also, being Italian, she didn't pronounce her "th" properly. : )


Entered at Tue Mar 28 05:30:50 CEST 2017 from (67.84.78.63)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Arthuritis is how Fred Sanford used to say it. As he held his hands in wide open grasping fashion.


Entered at Tue Mar 28 03:08:57 CEST 2017 from (64.229.14.176)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: My Canadian-born father-in-law always called it 'arturitis'. He also said 'chimuney' - but not 'filum', as some do.


Entered at Mon Mar 27 19:24:59 CEST 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Re: Garth at Wild Honey Orchestra show

George's link of Garth solo led me to this clip -- a very funky King Harvest from the same show with some terrific vocals by Terry Reid. Give it a try!


Entered at Mon Mar 27 18:21:33 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: My Brilliant friend

We spent yesterday at Elena Ferrante's My Brilliant Friend in its new stage version (linked), Nearly five hours of drama with superb "found music" on the sound track. In the interval between the two acts of the first play, they played most of the "Please Please Me" LP to set the time frame. BUT in the next part they had All The Way by Frank Sinatra in close juxtaposition with Blowing In The Wind by Bob Dylan. Both sounded absolutely superb in the theatre. But I quietly thought, well, Sinatra couldn't have sung Blowing In The wind like Bob. And … well … guess!


Entered at Mon Mar 27 16:52:05 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: correction:' Parsley, Sage...'

Sorry: 'Parsley, Sage...' did not even get a nomination though it came out that year.


Entered at Mon Mar 27 16:49:25 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: 'Blonde on Blonde' vs A 'Man and His Music'

I just reviewed Grammy Awards 1967. (for recordings of 1966). Frank Sinatra's ' A Man and His Music' won Record of the Year.

The absolute irrelevance of this award (and probably many others in the creative arts IMO) was demonstrated that year. 'Blonde on Blonde' is nowhere to be seen in any category. 'Revolver' (Beatles) and 'Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme' (S&G) appeared on nominee lists but did not win. History has not been kind to the Grammy Awards selections often. This is a flagrant example of the forces and politics that overcome art when the voting occurs. Nothing against the winner, but 'Blonde on Blonde' is arguably one of the greatest records not only of that year but of the half century.

The sad truth is that not much has changed.


Entered at Mon Mar 27 16:23:51 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Artistic human spirit

What more is needed to demonstrate the human spirit than witnessing (even on You Tube) the continued commitment of Garth and Maud Hudson, 2 people who are living the health impacts of aging, but thumb their noses at this adversity and push ahead with their art with fervour. Amazing!


Entered at Mon Mar 27 16:23:17 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Roll Over Beethoven

I always heard "got the arthur-itus sitting down by the …" in the Beatles version. I transcribed it to learn at the time, though I later bought the Chuck Berry sheet music which may interfere with memory. I think the issue is that the Beatles, like my mum and my grandma, called it "arthur - itus" not "arthritis." It's not going to be regional, because we have Liverpool, Wales and Dorset all in there … I guess it's kind of "medically ignorant." I've often heard an "ur" sound in the middle in Britain.


Entered at Mon Mar 27 16:03:03 CEST 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Sister Maud rips it up

Well, she broke my heart...


Entered at Mon Mar 27 16:00:37 CEST 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Paul Shaffer was a guest on the WTF podcast. He mentioned Robbie Robertson (towards the end of the show).

Also I noticed (a couple of posts below this) that I was included as one of the performers at The Concert Against Landmines amongst the likes of Jewel, Sarah McLachlan and Lisa Loeb. One of my finer moments on stage. Rock'n Roll....it's a crazy life. ; )


Entered at Mon Mar 27 11:01:11 CEST 2017 from (86.128.183.128)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Thanks, Bob

When Bob comes to Scotland, it's difficult to get tickets. I'm no longer willing to go through the pointless effort of going on line and phoning to try to get tickets, when Ticketmaster has sold them in bulk to sister companies, then raised the prices. Now Westminster is investigating their practices.

We have a beautiful concert hall with beautiful acoustics and I have enjoyed seeing people like John Martyyn, Gordon Lightfoot, Burt Baccharach, Ray Davies, Van Morrison etc in this hall. Nearly always able to get tickets.

I like the Dylan folk albums also, but I prefer 'Good As I Been To You'. I like the guitar playing on these albums - lovely tone, if that is the word. I also really liked 'Another Self Portrait'.

But this is the home of folk, with the bonus of Irish bands being a short flight away. Remember Bob stayed with the late Scottish singer and academic, Jean Redpath, in Greenwich village back in the day. Dylan knows his Burns and he has a home in the Highlands.

There are great Scottish folk albums and for me the yardstick of brilliance is Jock Tamson's Bairns, who no longer play. (nothing of note on You Tube.) Just now, I'm playing 'The Ornamental Tree' by Bert Jansch. Absolutely brilliant.

I've linked the song 'No Gods and Precious Few Heroes' by Brian McNeill, song by Dick Gaughan. This is a brilliant protest song, whose words may be lost on you. Popular, long before the independence debate. I go and see him, whenever I can.

I play Dylan's American songbook albums. I think the songs are treated well. But I'm not going to get the next releases. Two albums are enough. I think the songs have good lyrics, but I have the Nilsson album and Frank's greatest hits. There was a boom in Frank about ten years ago. I went to see Dionne Warwick about twenty years ago. She battered through her hits in ten minutes, then we got The american Songbook. No encore. Just a thing artists seem to have to do.

Hope Roseann is doing well.


Entered at Mon Mar 27 00:41:58 CEST 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Dunc, the show you saw in 1999 had a really great song selection. I recollect I've seen him three times in clubs. Toads Place in New Haven, The Supper Club in NYC and The Chance in Poughkeepsie. The first two were great. I think I lost some of my hearing at The Chance show. Way to loud.

I love how Dylan mentioned Amy Winehouse when asked in the interview what he's been listening to.

I've been listening to Triplicate song selections on NPR the past couple days. It sounds much stronger then Shadows In The Night or Fallen Angels. Once Upon A Time is really really beautiful. Similar to how World Gone Wrong was stronger then Good As I Been To You. For me anyway, though I liked both folk records a lot.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 23:10:41 CEST 2017 from (23.241.116.216)

Posted by:

George

Location: Los Angeles
Web: My link

Subject: Garth at Wild Hney B nefit

I attended the Wild Honey benefit in Glendale last night and was a thrill to see and hear Garth play though was disappointed overall by the concert. There are a number of videos posted on YouTube. I added link to Garth piano solo.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 21:40:31 CEST 2017 from (108.2.161.170)

Posted by:

Little Brother

Location: the Guestbook Archives

Subject: Chuck Berry's Elegant Diagnostics

RIP, Chuck Berry!

Late coming here, as usual. But, speaking of Berry's lyrics, there's a line in "Roll Over Beethoven" that cover versions get wrong-- at least The Beatles' version.

It's in the verse that begins "I got the rockin' pneumonia / I need a shot of rhythm and blues..."

The Beatles follow this with "I caught the rollin' off a writer / Sittin' down by the rhythm review".

[FWIW, I sometimes hear "writer" as "rider". Not to put too fine a point on it, but "writer" seems incongruous here. It conjures up an image of a teenage dance show from that era, with perhaps J.D. Salinger sitting in an audience of frenzied adolescents and quietly taking notes.]

In any case, Berry wrote/sang "I caught the rollin' arthritis, etc."

As usual, Berry's lyric is elegantly simple; the "rollin' arthritis" thematically complements the "rockin' pneumonia". Because, you know, if one sits down after feverishly dancing with rockin' pneumonia, one is susceptible to stiffening up and catching the rollin' arthritis.

But I don't blame The Beatles for getting this wrong. Berry pronounces "arthritis" in a characteristic Southern way, which sounds like a cross between "arthur-itis" and "author-itis".

Maybe that "author" inflection was subconsciously translated to "writer", eh? ;)


Entered at Sun Mar 26 20:07:27 CEST 2017 from (86.128.183.128)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Enjoyed recent posts.Thanks everybody.

I was lucky only once to see Bob play a smaller venue - a few hundred in the venue. Several of the numbers were acoustic - double bass etc. I remember the concert as being brilliant and quiet. Even the electric numbers. And, the place was rocking, when it was meant to be.

Here was set list that evening.

You're Gonna Quit Me (Acoustic)

Mr. Tambourine Man (Acoustic)

Mama, You Been on My Mind (Acoustic)

Masters of War (Acoustic)

4th Time Around (Acoustic)

Tangled Up in Blue (Acoustic)

Watching the River Flow

Just Like a Woman

Tough Mama (Slow version)

Simple Twist of Fate

Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again

Make You Feel My Love

Highway 61 Revisited

Encore:

Love Sick

Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat

Don't Think Twice, It's All Right (Acoustic)

Like a Rolling Stone

The other 6 Dylan concerts I have seen were in vast non descript places around the Glasgow area. I still felt glad I had attended the concerts.

I'm still on that journey that I wrote about several months ago, playing Dylan albums a few times in a row. (My Dylan journey started with buying the single, Lay Lady Lay). I marvel at where the words come from, but we all agree he is a genius. And there are, as others have pointed out, some truly great songs in the last twenty years.

What I would like to see, is a concert with Bob singing, playing acoustic guitar and harmonica; a double bass; a quiet, restrained lead guitar - nobody that needs to make a statement; a drummer like the drummer in Pentangle, quiet, thoughtful - no battering cymbals; and Garth on keyboards, moving from piano to accordion to organ to meet the needs of the song.

That's what I would like to see, and I know it works because I saw similar once. Oh, and I'd be happy with that set that I saw about 1999.

Keep on posting please, this is my default music site. Thanks everybody.


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Posted by:

Peter v

Last time 45 minutes late, time before 25 minutes


Entered at Sun Mar 26 19:16:25 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: On time

Kevin: Correct. Dylan starts on time. Lots of structure at Dylan concerts. I


Entered at Sun Mar 26 19:03:05 CEST 2017 from (24.114.82.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Dream Set-lists

Ha, twice for "Baby Stop Crying", eh......blame it on the backslash n's. Halfway through the list, I could barely see straight..........I do remember thinking about two of my all time favourite album closers "Where are you Tonight" which I did list and also ""Don't Fall Apart on Me Tonight" from Infidels which I didn't......."What about that millionaire with the drumsticks in his pants?/He looked so baffled and bewildered/When he played and we didn't dance"

Starting times: correct me if I am wrong JT, but my memory is that the last 5 or 6 times I have seen Bob Dykan live, he has started on the dot right at 8:00pm


Entered at Sun Mar 26 18:45:49 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: What does it take?(utopian)

What does it take?

1. To sell concert tickets properly with first come/first serve and no favouritism

2. To use venues with seats assigned to the purchaser

3. To start on time (within 10 minutes of announced start time)

4. To respect those in the audience and the performer as she/he performs

Utopian thoughts and why I only go to small venues now. All of these positive attributes happened in the Jones/Peyroux concert.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 17:47:03 CEST 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: DYLAN LIVE

There have been a few official "DYLAN LIVE" compilations over the years. These are the ones that come to mind

About 10 years ago, PBS did one entitled "BOB DYLAN CLASSICS LIVE" (Columbia/Legacy) with tracks covering 1964 to 2003. It was given away "free" when you bought other PBS products.

BBC Radio 2, in October 2007, broadcast a one-hour programme they called "DREAM DYLAN LIVE" with tracks from 1963 to 2000.

And there was the 2001 Japan-only release with the convoluted title, "Bob Dylan Live 1961 - 2000 : Thirty-nine years of great concert performances". Just four of the sixteen tracks were from regular Dylan albums; the rest were either from compilations, promos and the like or were previously unreleased at the time. Something like that anyway.I play the latter quite often and, if you don't have the album, it is well worth seeking out.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 10:10:00 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin, I was delighted to see Baby Stop Crying in your set, though twice is excessive. My personal set would have Changing of The Guard and Señor (Tales of Yankee Power) too … which means a totally different band to the current one.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 10:07:34 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dream Dylan concert

And START ON TIME. I don't want to stand in a sweaty crowd for 20 minutes after the start time then have the lights go down and stand in pitch darkness all the way through Fanfare for The Common Man on the PA … then when it ends, no crisp start, but people wandering on and fiddling about, so the first note is 45 minutes or more late. Unprofessional. But then he is.

As I say, the Royal Shakespeare Company with a cast of thirty-two plus six musicians can start on time to the minute every night.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 10:01:42 CEST 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dreams

Good opener, JT … I once saw Bob open with Absolutely Sweet Marie and it worked a dream. I think one should plan in an acoustic solo set in the middle, though ideally he wouldn't be allowed to touch an electric guitar at all. Stick to acoustic rhythm guitar throughout for Bob.

Also, at least a ten piece band with backing singers, two keyboards, percussion as well as drums, and get Roscoe Beck, Leonard Cohen's bass player as bass player (JD's dream band didn't have a bass player) and more importantly as MD, and also Leonard Cohen's entire sound crew. Let Roscoe Beck deal with all the arrangements and rehearsals too. Go for perfect sound at every venue sending out a team to analyse each hall in advance… as James Taylor, Paul Simon, Leonard Cohen, Jackson Browne do, to name but four. Dylan might realise he'd never heard himself sounding that good.

If there are three encores, I'd follow the Paul Simon route. Second encore has to be Like A Rolling Sone. Massive dancing in the aisles, brings the house down, then go out for the third encore solo with acoustic guitar and do something old and very well-known and gentle … like Don't Think Twice (my first choice) or She Belongs To Me or If You See Her, Say Hello. Works for Paul Simon (Sounds of Silence usually, but Homeward Bound sometimes).

Also don't screw about with the encores, waiting off stage for five minutes etc. Just get on with them, as Van Morrison does.

Visions of Johanna would be the centrepiece of the solo acoustic set … unless you can get Robbie along for an electric version. No one else would do.

We all know he could easily do virtually nothing from the last thirty years and please audiences much more.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 05:37:01 CEST 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Small gigs

Merle Haggard in a Bakersfield bowling alley on a hot Saturday afternoon, 1970. A repeat: Telly master Bill Kirchen in a Denver bowling alley, 1999.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 04:44:47 CEST 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: Hey Zimmy, how about this one?

from the 70s: it's the old, obscure B-side "Rita May"


Entered at Sun Mar 26 03:16:07 CEST 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Good One Kevin and a major omission

I can't believe I forgot 'Visions". Well done, Kevin. I purposefully avoided the newer albums, predicting in my mind that this would happen.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 03:12:30 CEST 2017 from (24.114.82.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

My Bob Dylan dream set, off the top of my head, would rely much less on the tired old ones andfocus more on the underperformed and more contemporary:

1. Summer Days

2. Mississippi

3. Someday Baby

4. Let me Die in My Footsteps

5. Baby Stop Crying

6. I'll Remeber You

7. Jokerman

8.The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar

9. Brownsville Girl

10. Baby Stop Crying

11. I and I

12. Working Man Blues

13. Angelina

14. I Threw It All Away

15. You're a Big Girl

16. Where Are You Tonight

Encores

17. Visions of Johanna

18. Tangled Up in Blue

19. Like a Rolling Stone


Entered at Sun Mar 26 03:00:04 CEST 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Small gigs. Steve Holley is playing drums with a band in a pizza restaurant in Brooklyn on Sunday. Yes, Steve Holley from Wings. Pizza restaurants have become very popular the last few years. They're different from pizza places, or as we used to call them growing up, pizza parlors. Pizza places sold by the slice, or pie, & also served food. These pizza restaurants are real restaurants, not slice joints, & the tables & decor are fancier, even if in a rustic way..


Entered at Sun Mar 26 01:53:18 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Ladies and Gentlemen, Dylan does the (Great) American Song Book|

Ladies and Gentlemen: Live At The Air Canada Centre: Bob Dylan does the Great American Song Book. Dooby dooby doo. Wiggle Wiggle, Tweedle Dum an Tweedle Dee indeed.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 01:45:20 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Covering Dylan

And if I were doing a 'cover Dylan' set, I would include Jason and the Scorchers, Lone Justice, The Byrds, McGuiness Flint etc, The Band, Joan Baez, Adele, And de Franco, Guns 'n. Roses, Barb Jungr. There are many more but these are some of the good ones with good cuts.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 01:35:23 CET 2017 from (24.114.82.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: False advertising....and Bob Dylan

A big ad campaign started today on Toronto radio stations......"Bob Dylan and his band at Air Canada Centre" the voice in the ad blares out and as the promo is going on we are treated to 5 or 6 classic Dylan songs....all rockers......No mention at all that the great man will largely not be playing his own songs on tour.......and this strikes me as unfair bordering on cruel to the Billy's and Betty's in places like Saskatoon and Kingston, Ontario who have decided this is there one chance to see the great Bob Dylan.......booking into smaller venues suitable to this subdued lounge presentation and advertising it as such would have been the honourable thing to do.....Sadly not the route taken.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 01:36:10 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Dream set options

Of course, folks, we could do multiple dream sets with all different songs and no one would complain.


Entered at Sun Mar 26 01:29:34 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Dream Set Dylan

Here is my Dylan dream set.

1. Absolutely Sweet Marie

2. Desolation Row

3. Hurricane

4. Positively Fourth Street

5. Trying To Get To Heaven

6. Every Grain Of Sand

7. All Along The Watchtower

8. It Takes A Lot To Laugh,...Cry

9. Stuck Inside of Mobile..Again

10.Gates Of Eden

11.Chimes Of Freedom

12.Fourth Time Around

13.Gotta Serve Somebody

14.Isis

15.Tangled Up In Blue

16.Like A Rolling Stone

Encore

17. Series of Dreams

18.Times They Are A' Changin'


Entered at Sun Mar 26 00:10:00 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: It's all good

Bob F: I agree: I prefer but will not boycott. It's all good. Some is just preferable.


Entered at Sat Mar 25 21:13:28 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

John makes good points for sure. It's hard to love everything an artist does. Though I kind of loved everything Dylan did for the last 50 years, The Sinatra stuff not so much. Many folks jumped off the Slow Train when Dylan went Gospel. I thought that was one of his greatest periods and the 2nd best band he ever played with. I'll always buy the records and get out and see some shows but I'll be hoping for more Blind Willie Mctell and less Fly Me To The Moon.


Entered at Sat Mar 25 19:10:07 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Great band there, John D. But who gets the drum seat? Steve Gadd or Jim Keltner?


Entered at Sat Mar 25 15:45:23 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Clarity

The wisdom of John D. Read this post many times. Then listen to the radio (CIUT.FM) and all will come clear.


Entered at Sat Mar 25 14:51:09 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject JT & Dylan

Comments:

I have to agree; with JT; regarding Mr. D. Bob has always recorded what he felt like doing at the time. Today we talk about Sinatra's songs. Back in the day he took us from a Blonde On Blonde to a Self Portrait; or a Nashville Skyline; as examples.

I knew friends who were really put off at Bob; crossing genres; which wasn't really done at that time. I've always enjoyed him jumping around in musical formats. It's not to say that I enjoyed every change he made; but it's my belief he doesn't expect you to.

At my age today, I listen to and love types of music I never would have embraced as a young man. So Bob. Record what you want. You've earned it. After Triplicate; has been done; who knows where he'll go next?

My personal dream concert ; before it's too late. Bringing back the songs of Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited and Blonde On Blonde; on tour. Sing them roughly as we remember them. I say that because we know he can if he feels like it.

Oh and bring Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Larry Campbell and Al Kooper for the tour. I might even go back to an arena for that! Well how about returning to Massey Hall.


Entered at Sat Mar 25 10:44:37 CET 2017 from (114.75.192.111)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Linking politics to music, there is a lot of hostility to globalisation now and I can imagine this feeding into a revived interest in local community based activity like entertainment. There is something soulless about downloading a song from iTunes or seeing a musician as part of a vast crowd. May just be wishful thinking on my part but the world has gone to an extreme and things might start swinging back the other way.


Entered at Sat Mar 25 09:12:25 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Small shows demonstrate how much younger talent there is a a level where you can make records but not get into big halls, and also that there are a lot of "heritage artists" who can still give a great evening's entrainment, but can no longer fill the bigger venues. There are two converted cinemas within ten miles of me (in opposite directions) that have films three days a week, then a mix of comedy, amateur drama, tribute bands and "heritage artists." They also keep busy 5 or 6 days a week, unlike a lot of more prestigious venues. They're staffed by volunteers and are community theatres. At Wimborne, Steve Cropper with great Southern charm announced that he had been treated better there by "these great volunteers" than anywhere else.

Seeing (e.g.) Judy Collins from the front row in that 500 seater was incredible … I didn't book early, but the venue said people avoided the front row because so many comedians picked on the front row. She's played there three times. The Searchers and The Manfreds do one of them every year, usually alternating the venues. Both give a first rate show too.


Entered at Sat Mar 25 00:53:04 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, I've easily seen a couple of thousand impeccable & magnificent shows with under a hundred people in the room. And anothe couple of thousand with under two hundred, & then for three hundred as well. There's great music in the clubs in NYC, & often, they're really small rooms.Big names too or rooms that hold 110, 120, & 50 people show. Same things big names. The Bitter End has small capacity, and that had the biggest names. the Bottom Line might have held three hundred, that was the same, big names, the best acts all the time. St Louis had an amazing club scene, I saw Little Milton with maybe a hundred and fifty packed into a small club, how many times Johnnie Johnson played to packed clubs that didn't hold 200 people. Bettye Lavette, same deal..... I used to no tmind goign t to the arenas for some shows, and i had a solid connection in the ebtertianment industry that often used to get me great tickets anywhere in the country. And other times i used to pay a scalper in NYC, but we're goign back to 85, 86, 87 and then 125 would get you third row center in Madison Sq Garden. I haven;t been to anything in big arenas or even medium sized halls in quite a while and i don't really feel like I'm missing anything. Shame is, that;s also a big statement about the level of entertainment.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 23:27:07 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

True, the experience of seeing Simone Felice with fewer than 100 people in a tiny club or Fay Hield & The Hurricane Party with a couple of hundred, vastly outweighs seeing ANYONE with many thousands of people in the audience, which is why "New folk" with sub-500 audiences is so rewarding.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 22:50:01 CET 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: I don't like what's happening with tickets

When one looks at the venues (in most cases), the prices (very high by the 'entrepreneurs') and the possible seats, I can easily say that I am now in the small theatre or small venue club and if I the performer can't spit on me or if I can't see her/him sweating (as I could Rickie Lee Jones last week), then as Dylan said "I'm not there".


Entered at Fri Mar 24 22:48:09 CET 2017 from (114.75.192.111)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Eric talking about Chuck.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 22:12:21 CET 2017 from (76.69.47.46)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: All the good seat are taken already.....

Scalpers are the only way in so many cases, sadly. Though the PC term for scalpers is now “ticket entrepreneur”

Thinking about the word entrepreneur…………reminds me of that classic story about Tony Blair and George W. Bush discussing economics and particularly about the problem of the declining French economy and George W just shrugged and concluded the discussion with the statement “ The problem with the French is that they don’t have a word for entrepreneur.”


Entered at Fri Mar 24 21:30:33 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

JT, I fear you'll find ticket agencies have better seats at premium prices. It keeps happening … this pre-sale to agencies at high prices.

I just got Third Man Records "Vault" series … my first. A double live LP by Margo Price, plus a 45 and a DVD. The LP set includes Rodney Crowell's "I Ain't Living Long Like This."


Entered at Fri Mar 24 19:27:18 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: I'm remiss again.

Lee, I should have typed:I think God forgives you. Or: Hopefully God forgives you :-) ...:-)


Entered at Fri Mar 24 19:25:48 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Lee, God forgives you. Me, you don't have to worry about :-).


Entered at Fri Mar 24 19:17:35 CET 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: NO!

NO!: By the time I got through on the phone, tickets on the floor of Victoria hockey arena for row 22 at best or on the side of the arena higher up. No! The record will have to do. Kelowna midweek is impossible. NO! I'm committed but on this occasion, I'll wait until the next occasion. No has been a common conclusion today.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 19:12:39 CET 2017 from (65.92.193.29)

Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend / Peter V: If you want to know what the British will be looking back on fondly a hundred years from now, I suggest a quick scan of topics covered in the OT. I suspect you'll find more on how we won the war than on how nice it was to have sharing neighbours.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 18:54:34 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE,USA
Web: My link

Subject: Mr. Crowell

Jeff, I remiss I missed the remiss. My apologies.

Link is to a nice article on Mr. Crowell and his upcoming release, which I just ordered FROM HIM (or at least his website) on both CD and vinyl, in a package the includes a copy of the hand-written lyrics, a splurge, to be sure, as I do not have the media budget of some (cough, Viney) but having met Mr. Crowell at a show a few years back, feel a strong connection to the man and his work.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 17:58:45 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

There's many name artists who would could be making great recordings. And there are people who have great material for them. The issue is the futility of putting real money into recording & promoting music anymore. I guess it was the summer of 2004. I had pretty much just gotten back to St Louis, & this was before I recorded with Johnnie Johnson. At the last minute i heard Chris Hillman, Herb Perderen , & i think Larry Sparks played the casino in St Charles.there was no ttime to call anyone to try to get a personal connection made.. Hillman was greeting people signing autographs a little while after the show. Personally i think waiting in line to get a autograph or talk to an artist is really awkward and uncomfortable and unless you're really pushy or have a great personal connection or reference to mention to work for a later contact, it's just a odd thing to try to talk with a line up people up your tucches.. But i waited, spoke to Chris for a second, and basically just said I;m a fan forever, and i have a song i think you'd be the perfect artist for. Would you listen to it? He looked at me and said Sure, i'll give it a listen. But i don't have a record deal. Why would you be interested in me?


Entered at Fri Mar 24 17:49:12 CET 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Eternal immorality by Norbert

"ETERNITY? said Frankie Lee with a voice as cold as ice / Yes, ETERNITY, said Judas Priest, though you might call it Paradise."


Entered at Fri Mar 24 17:21:43 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Furthermore Lee, especially since Crowell might be one of the few name artists left whose recordings might be worth buying.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 17:20:06 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Lee, why do you think I wrote "I am remiss"?
The last time i saw him was Sept 2007, i was standing next to Garth & Maud in Nashville. Chris Hillman also was one of the performers that night. Mavis Staples was there too. I'm remiss. Crowell is great.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 16:25:39 CET 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

today I met an old refugee,
and for only 2 dollar and fifty,
he handed me eternal immortality.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 16:10:51 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Rodney Crowell

Jeff! What rock are you living under? Life is Messy came out in 1992! Rodney released Tarpaper Skies in 2014! Title is a reference to the dilapidated house of his childhood. Get the book.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 14:41:39 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

John D thanks for article and link to interview. Great stuff.

Dylan has always done great versions of other writers songs going back to House of The Rising Sun.

Link is to NPR First Listen where you can hear Triplicate.

Dylan is playing Kingston NY in June. First 20 rows are $120 a ticket but are general admission .


Entered at Fri Mar 24 11:15:32 CET 2017 from (114.75.202.192)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Don't worry Peter, I was only joking. You shouldn't take anything I write seriously. Having said that, given Germany's history I don't think Merkel could or should have turned the refugees back. Life will go on after Brexit. No doubt after all the EU citizens leave, Brits will be lining up to fill their places in all the dead end jobs. Then people will be going on about the good old days when Britain was part of the EU.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 09:51:55 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Assigned?

Do you think Dylan has been assigned hockey arenas, or chosen to play them? It surprises me slightly, because I have complained about his insistence on all standing in Bournemouth so as to double the capacity (at full price), which is apparently his choice, but this time, in May, it's seated. I was assuming that was a nod to the type of material we should expect. We would hardly expect to jump up and down head banging and playing air guitar to Some Enchanted Evening.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 09:21:42 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Excellent pieces there from John D, and Jeff's link to the Chuck Berry review.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 09:17:06 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: All this and WW2 …

As most will know, I am extremely pro-European Union. As we saw in the terror attack in London, the victims were French, German, Spanish and American as well as British. We can only be in this together.

I’m therefore concerned that my comment about Colonel Bogey at football matches was in poor taste. I was railing against PC-ing football, but the British, French and Germans all rightly outlawed the racist chanting at black players which still follows players in Eastern Europe and even in Italy. I suppose you could take our playing of Colonel Bogey as similarly bad… but I think our 70 years of peaceful co-operation means that we should all be used to it by now. The British have never stopped watching films and series about WW2, and probably won’t, from Dad’s Army to Foyle’s War to SS/GB.

On who is leader of the free world though, that is dodgy ground. Angela Merkl’s decision to open the doors of Germany to mass immigration was done unilaterally, without consulting any other EU states, but affects us all, as once in Germany, freedom of movement means they can go anywhere. The other 26 countries weren’t asked. The right reasons? Yes, at root they were, but then estimates are that only 50% were Syrian and many from Balkan states not at war, simply joined in. Some Brexit analyses say that Merkl’s action on its own gave the anti-EU group the extra few per cent and screwed everything up.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 05:47:47 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Pete, you'll enjoy this artyicle on the new Chuck record.

I've only scanned it, but it discusses the motivations for the songs.
I tried to teach Bob Lohr how to sell home improvements back in 1982. He told me "I'm really a musician." :-)


Entered at Fri Mar 24 05:27:53 CET 2017 from (114.75.202.192)

Posted by:

Wallsend

In Australia if you are poor you hardly pay anything for health care. The American situation is really crazy.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 04:36:29 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: US health care

For the non-Americans here - Do you have to go this agro continually? It seems to me that even conservatives elsewhere are all in for a socialized system, is that valid? We could learn so much from other countries but that topic is never mentioned, maybe by Bernie -

John D - Great post!


Entered at Fri Mar 24 03:53:24 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Article from Journalist & Blogger Bob Lefsetz tonight on Bob.

Won't get anybody to listen to the music. Actually, all you need to know is revealed in the answer wherein he says he listens to music on CDs. The plastic discs were supposed to be an improvement on vinyl, permanent and clear, but now the world has bifurcated, into vinyl purists and on demand streamers and if you're listening to digital discs it just proves that you're out of the loop. When did Bob Dylan become such an old fart? Then again, he's 75.

Don't get your knickers in a twist. If we can't criticize the giants we cannot push them to test the limits and exceed their previous work. We've been giving Dylan a pass for far too long. I'll piss him off, and his Grammy speech taught us he's listening, intently, and say the last great thing he did was "Things Have Changed" from the "Wonder Boys" soundtrack. It was a one-off. Which percolated in the marketplace long after the movie stiffed, even though it was quite good, better than the book, then again, Michael Chabon's one who's gotten an unjust pass himself, too much focus on the writing and too little on the plot and I'll posit his best work was his very first, "The Mysteries Of Pittsburgh," but now I'm getting so obscure and referential you might be lost. I'm doing what Dylan is doing in this interview, and it's utterly fascinating.

Getting back to the marketing element, in today's world it's so hard to gain attention that your product must be available simultaneous with the hype. Just ask Drake, who just proved it, or Beyonce. It's only old farts inured to the movie business who believe in the buildup. To tell you the truth if "Triplicate" had been on Spotify today I would have checked out some of the cuts Dylan talks about, but I won't when it's released, whenever that might be, because I will have already moved on to new stuff and Bob's disappointed me with his frog-throat voice and rearranged songs for far too long unless I hear from a trustworthy source I'm missing out. Then again, Dylan's from a previous generation, he's like God coming down from the mountaintop with the tablets, we pay attention to him, we don't need no stinking penumbra. But I'll bet your life and mine that this interview is better than the three disc set. Because that's what Bob does best, opine, give us insight into the culture. He's now lived long and is still obfuscating whilst revealing truth and instead of covering old chestnuts he should be blogging, now's when we need him most, when our country is in turmoil, we're looking for insight, we're looking for art, we're ready for his tricks. Instead he's bunting, using up his capital hyping a project that no one cares about that will be instantly forgotten, like his previous cover LPs, and if you think he doesn't care then why did he do this interview in the first place? A fake one to boot. Bill Flanagan is interviewing him but it debuts on Bob's own site? Did Flanagan even get paid? Hell, Flanagan's questions are the worst part, it's Dylan's cryptic answers that intrigue. Riddled with truth and falsehood. Bob's the original Keyser Soze. We don't know what to believe, but we can't stop paying attention.

So just when we need him most, when he could put out one cut that could change the world, Dylan overloads us with irrelevant product in a world where we've got no time. How come all the old acts can't come up to speed. Not only should the release be day and date with the hype, but one track is enough, we've got time to listen to one track. And then follow it up with another not that far down the line. We're interested in what Dylan has to say, but the fawning press has been kissing his ass for so damn long that we've gone on react and are tuning his work out. Because how many times can you go to the well and find out it's dry?

Dylan makes Minnesota come alive. Cites Twin Cities bands from far after he left. Creates myths about his family and friends not knowing or caring about his appearance on "Ed Sullivan" when he was always close to his mother and even brought her to a Yetnikoff event. Bob's creating a character, who knows who he really is, and when he says he's got nothing to say and is not worthy of the hang time you either protest too much or roll your eyes and say "there he goes again," evading the punch, dancing like a butterfly while he stings us like a bee.

Yes, Dylan's still here, unlike Muhammad Ali. And his insight and chops are as sharp as ever. But he's squandering them. He refuses to reach for the stars. Refuses to write a song that will change the world. Refuses to come down off the mountaintop and interact with us in the new world. Sure, he did that XM series, but imagine Dylan on Twitter or YouTube. Imagine him writing with Drake. Imagine him risking.

Because he still cares. And he's still stuck in the old ethos, where music is everything and you're a student of the game. Bob Dylan still gives a damn, in a world where most aged acts are only about the bread, collecting cash from Live Nation when they pass Go!, and plying the boards endlessly giving people what they want. Dylan never played that game, he gave us what we needed. And what we need now more than ever is leaders who make us think for ourselves, who sharpen our vision, who get us to investigate and come up with our own conclusions, to question authority and brave the road untaken. This interview is a marvelous start, but the "Triplicate" project is a nonstarter, dead on arrival in a world where what happens in the morning is already forgotten in the afternoon and if you take chances and create greatness you can impact society, but there's no greatness in covering aged tunes, however much insight they might contain, not when your voice is ragged and nearly unlistenable. For that, you've got to write a song that's solely your own. We're waiting Bob...


Entered at Fri Mar 24 03:43:30 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Academy of Music

Listening to Sebastian Robertson's mix of Live At The Academy of Music tonight. Just incredible. I really hope Pop puts him in the drivers seat again soon for his mixes of classic Band material. Think it would be refreshing.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 03:19:21 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: 00Kevin

Wait a minute now. Is Billy's Betty Biff's Used To Be?



Entered at Fri Mar 24 02:30:09 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Billy and Betty

'Imagine poor old Billy and Betty driving 300 miles to see their fave Bob Dylan...'

I know Billy and Betty and they know who they are going to see and what to expect. Jack and Diane may be unhappy /they've seen Dylan in the 60s and haven't left the 60s in their respective heads...but not Billy and Betty. They read the internet and know what is coming. Be sure of it.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 02:12:13 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, regarding your premise of Dylan's imminent danger..... if there are - Biffs & Bettys (drinking cappucino &) pretending anything -in NYC, they're tourists. Not natives.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 00:32:33 CET 2017 from (114.75.202.192)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, you may be skating on thin ice. Now Germany is the leader of the free world and your country is siding with Trump and Putin.


Entered at Fri Mar 24 00:27:29 CET 2017 from (24.114.82.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bob Dylan Shows and 2017 tour

The last time I saw Bob Dylan was on the tour 4 years ago with Mark Knopfler opening. I saw him in Toronto on a Wednesday and then Montrral on the Friday. He was great on both nights and what made Montreal particularly exciting was that he shuffled the set list by playing 7 or 8 different songs. And especially satisfying to me was a focus on newer ( Bob Dylan ) songs. Of note, both were in the big hockey arenas but I always make sure to have perfectly situated seats in arenas or I don't go. Some venues and with some artists, just being there is ok but rarely the case. You have to have a good scalper and be willing to pay the price.

I think I will just keep the memories those last two shows left with me ( and not purchase tickets for these Cabadaian shows ) and also remember very fondly the mid 80's shows and the great return to form shows of late 90's - early 2000's. The last shows with Larry Campbell were just great. Only complaint from the Knopfler tour was after Mark left the stage after about song 5 of the Dylan set, I didn't really hear guitar for the rest of the night !


Entered at Thu Mar 23 23:49:36 CET 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Hockey arenas and other such

I'm not a big fan of hockey arenas for concerts. In both cases, both here in Victoria and in Toronto, Mr. Dylan has been assigned to these venues. I agree that this is not the best place to hear him and this type of material. Somehow, Leonard Cohen managed to make Victoria's Save-On Centre (this hockey arena) more intimate. The sound system was superb and helped greatly. My last experience with Bob Dylan at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto was less than adequate.

For Toronto, a successful Dylan concert was during the Unplugged period (90s) when he appeared at what was then The Masonic Temple on Yonge St. at Davenport Rd. We sat on the floor there and it was great. The CNE grandstand was a disaster (with Carlos Santana) but the concert at Canada's Wonderland (when Paul James briefly appeared) was great. The best clearly has been Massey Hall and that is true both times I saw him there.

I have to decide what to do before tomorrow when tickets go on sale.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 22:25:57 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Fawlty Towers

The famous extract … (linked)


Entered at Thu Mar 23 22:22:09 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Colonel Bogey

You have to laugh. Apparently the Germans have protested about English behaviour at last night’s friendly soccer match. The English fans sang “inappropriate songs” as they have done every single game for the last seventy years. The main culprit s Colonel Bogey where it is played as an instrumental, but everyone knows that the lyrics are. It was whistled in the film Bridge Over The River Kwai.

Hitler has only got one ball

Göring has two but very small

Himmler is very sim'lar

But poor old Goebbels has no balls at all

As Hitler’s testicular inadequacy appears to be fact rather than fiction, I think the world has to learn to live with the English fans’ inalienable right to sing this ditty when playing Germany.

Reference: Fawlty Towers: The Germans.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 22:16:51 CET 2017 from (84.209.146.1)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Garth last night :-)


Entered at Thu Mar 23 21:14:31 CET 2017 from (24.114.82.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

One of the more ridiculous trends for the rock star was being conviced they should make jazz albums - remember that one ? A bunch of self taught limited players thinking they could play jazz. Hilarious, but it happened..........here's a key point. Bob Dylan would never have emerged from the folk scene and become a global superstar had he not written his own songs. The songwriting was the key for him and in an overwhelming way as he didn't have a voice or performance charisma to distinguish himself above others in the same way a Rod Stewart or Tom Jones did.

Even if Rod the Mod had never written an original song, does anyone doubt he would have emerged as some sort of major star? Rod even managed the impossible task of taking a brilliant Paul McCartney song and performance (Maybe I'm Amazed) and substantially improving it. Sadly, by the time Rod got to the Ameriican Songbook project, his glorious voice had long been shot and everything sounded thin and uninspired.

Bottom line: The only reason I ever bought a Leonard Cohen album was to hear songs written by Leonard Cohen. Same with Bob Dylan. Same with Robbie Robertson. Another brilliant writer with limited vocal chops........Had Rick Danko done a Hank Williams or Frank Sinatra album - I would have bought it......but Robbie ? Why?



Entered at Thu Mar 23 20:24:49 CET 2017 from (24.114.82.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

...another rub is Bob Dylan booking himself into the Air Canada Centre in Toronto to present an intimate lounge act. Fine if that is what is making him happy these days but staging this kind of show in a massive 18,000 seating hockey arena might make financial sense but no other sense.

Chuck Berry: A funny part of the Deluxe Hail Hail Rock n Roll was the producers revealing that Chuck insisted on being paid for every interview segment and every performance he did for his own documentary !


Entered at Thu Mar 23 20:22:37 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Covers

Where is the line between covers, standards and tributes? The concept of "covers" only came about after the writer became the singer, no? Up to then, with rare exceptions, writers wrote and singers sang. (OK, for the sake of argument, let's ignore Pat Boone.) Elvis did not write, nor did the popular singers of his (early) days. Exceptions, of course...Buddy Holly comes to mind. But the Beatles and Dylan kicked down the door to writers performing their own material.

The Jazz mainstream is based on "covering" standards. An exceptional performer puts their own spin on it. (See Coltrane, John, "My Favorite Things") Or in a less radical vein, Ella Fitzgerald, any (or all!) of her 'Songbook' series.

Even playing songs in more or less the same feel and structure of the original has its place. People like hearing what they know. Live music beats a beat-box IMO.

Note-for-note tribute bands have been discussed here. Something like Warren's TLW shows are real, loving tributes, celebrating the music and performers that made that one-time event special, down to gathering together simpatico artists on one stage. But nobody's putting on fake Garth beards (oh, wait, that IS Garth) or pink scarves and trying to make you think you are reliving the actual event.

Given how many people have "covered" and sometimes butchered Bob's music (sometimes Bob himself), why not let him try his hand at interpreting others? Granted, three plus records in a row is a bit trying, but there is certainly enough of the "old" Dylan in circulation if you want it.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 20:18:19 CET 2017 from (24.114.56.99)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: steals across the meadows of my heart

Peter V: Nice, but I prefer the Bonzos' "In the wardrobe of my soul, in the section labelled 'shirts'".


Entered at Thu Mar 23 19:13:35 CET 2017 from (114.75.202.192)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I recall when Chuck visited New Zealand in the 1970s he got paid for a couple of shows and skipped the country without doing them. When asked about this he said in the past he had been ripped off by lots of 'whitey' promoters so he thought it was OK to rip them off. He probably had plenty of reasons to be bitter but not a good way to increase your fan base. Whatever grievances he had, it had nothing to do with people in New Zealand.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 19:03:00 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.213)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

"putting the full commitment of their ability into what they do" need not mean some one has not been able to shut off emotional involvement. And of course, he can say something that might vary in reality. But the 86 or 87 Robert Hilburn interview prior to release of Hail Hail Rock & Roll seemed pretty forthright.And not inconsistent with his autobiography.

Of course, bullshit gets presented Pete . I don't want to get deep into this But Now, out of nowhere, some one close tried to present that Chuck was a excellent blues piano player. That piano was his first instrument & he was adept. The next jump was well, that explains his songs being in piano keys & chords a pianist would choose. No shit....Well, all these years, don't you think people, especially in St Louis would know if Chuck was a mean piano player?


Entered at Thu Mar 23 18:46:25 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Life's A Trippy Thing

Quote: "My "pot" is full of flowers, my "grass" is bright and green …"

How did kids in 1966 feel about being lectured on substance abuse by someone who consumed whisky by the pint?


Entered at Thu Mar 23 18:43:24 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Life's A Trippy Thing

Link to "Life's A Trippy thing" from the LP "Nancy in London" (I have a copy). I think the feeling behind lyrics of the duet just about sum up Frank Sinatra. (Nice production though). Is this one Bob will be covering, I wonder?


Entered at Thu Mar 23 18:13:12 CET 2017 from (114.75.202.192)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Robbie on Chuck.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 18:05:40 CET 2017 from (24.114.82.147)

Posted by:

Kevin J

“His kind of music is deplorable, a rancid smelling aphrodisiac. It fosters almost totally negative and destructive reactions in young people.” — Frank Sinatra, 1956.....on Elvis

"Rock 'n Roll: The most brutal, ugly, desperate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear " - Frank Sinatra on R n R in general

Yet as Sinatra got older and had less and less people around him ( if any at all ) to say NO he took a swing at Rock music himself.......now we have Bob Dylan with it seems absolutely no one around him to say NO and what we have is a vanity project which while not quite being embarrassing is disappointing. Especially as this has gone on for 3 albums now and especially as he insists on making his live shows all about the "great American songbook".........Jumping Jesus, he is doing 20 something shows in Canada this summer in all sorts of remote places......Imagine poor old Billy and Betty driving 300 miles to see their fave Bob Dylan playing a shithole broken down hockey arena in Saskatoon and being treated to 15 Sinatra songs......Run for your life Bobby, this ain't Manhatten or Toronto where the Biff's and Betty's drink cappuccino's and will at least pretend they like what your playing...


Entered at Thu Mar 23 16:25:13 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Chuck Berry: I don’t think we can judge what any musician’s emotional involvement was by what they tell journalists. We know that after the mid-60s, mostly back-up groups were just “who’s the cheapest?” Often it worked because I know of musicians who backed him for way less than their going rate just to play with him. We know he demanded money up front, declined to rehearse or even tune his guitar. Then the Robbie interview showed his deep love for words, and he found a medium.

He covered Route 66 of course, but also some deep blues. Many people will say that their ideal life would have been different, but that doesn’t stop them putting the full commitment of their ability into what they do.

And why the fuck does the autocorrect on this change THEIR to THEY'RE every time I type it?


Entered at Thu Mar 23 15:57:34 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Dylan speaks

Dylan to Bill Flanagan (recent interview at Dylan site)

: “These songs,” he said, “are some of the most heartbreaking stuff ever put on record and I wanted to do them justice. Now that I have lived them and lived through them I understand them better. They take you out of that mainstream grind where you’re trapped between differences which might seem different but are essentially the same. Modern music and songs are so institutionalized that you don’t realize it. These songs are cold and clear-sighted, there is a direct realism in them, faith in ordinary life just like in early rock and roll.”


Entered at Thu Mar 23 15:34:08 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Emotional investment

Jeff A: Emotional investment is an interesting notion. I think when you are a kid playing and singing music, it becomes a part of you. For some, I believe it stays with you throughout your life. That Chuck Berry confirmed that this was not the case for him is not revelatory for a man who continually 'bucked the system' in his commentary. From my vantage point, this is in essence true for anyone who earns. One invests oneself both in the enterprise and in the reward and both matter.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 15:29:00 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.213)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Chuck Berry's personal favorite music was from the big band era & the crooners. Nat King Cole, Bing Crosby. He always claimed that in his case Rock & Roll was only a way to buy a home, then many properties. It was only a way to amass wealth, he had no emotional investment in the music at all.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 15:26:17 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: 'Steals across the meadows of my heart'

Interesting: 'Steals across the meadows of my heart' hits me hard and stands up as a lyric with authority.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 15:22:29 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Lyrics

One dimension is lyrics here. Blues, and original folk had lyrical concerns, and narrative impact. Dylan, Simon, Cohen all picked up on that. The Beatles did too, but only two or three years in.

Let’s take Stardust, a pretty lyric. I’ve linked the Nat King Cole version (a it’s as good as you can get)

And now the purple dusk of twilight time

Steals across the meadows of my heart

High up in the sky the little stars climb

Always reminding me that we're apart

But you’re not going to find it informative, or life changing, or deep. It may well have massive emotional impact … for example I can hear my mum singing it … but it’s by association, not because of content.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 15:09:20 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Perspective again

Peter V: With respect, Glen Miller makes my point.

Yes, it was our 'mum and dad's music' and it will never hit us like Dylan or Beatles or Elvis (not me so much) did. But that isn't the point. Its respect for the process and how it affected those who we adopted in our time. It gives perspective and perspective is always good.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 15:06:45 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

We crossed in the ether … absolutely right, JT. We should mark these horrors of totally innocent lives destroyed. I’ve walked over the same bridge many times. We usually stay on the South Bank and when we do theatres on the North Bank around Trafalgar Square, that’s one way back. Ideology is too good a word … perhaps disease or sickness describes it better.

After Berlin and Nice, are we going to have to end up with safety barriers along every pavement?


Entered at Thu Mar 23 14:57:18 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

We could do the Rocket 88 / Ike Turner, or no, Louis Jordan argument about the origins of rock, and I have a good friend who can take it back to 1926. The point about Elvis is that it broke through to the world, not that he was original. Not even the first to blend blues and country.

I think Rod Stewart’s Great American Songbook albums were mentioned, and I think Rod did it better than Bob did … he hit the notes for starters. I must say since I found the Band GB, I “discovered” that I liked Hank Williams … I hadn’t before. I’ve never been persuaded on The Doors though. I do have some Sinatra original albums and CDs, and I can sit and explore the songs of that era. But even when I appreciate them, there’s still a sense of history … they’re my mum and dad’s music, not “my” music. I went to my old boss’s funeral (he was 87) and they only had Glen Miller and it sounded superb (and I always liked Glen Miller more than Sinatra).

But Bob Dylan & The Beatles (and The Band and Paul Simon) spoke to me in a way that even Elvis didn’t. Chuck Berry stood out because his UK commercial breakthrough was in the wake of The Beatles, so more in my era. And Eddie Cochran, The Everly Brothers and Buddy Holly were way more played by me than Elvis, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins or Johnny Cash. Maybe there’s a “Class of 55/56” versus “Class of 58 / 59” division even in those early rockers.

Dylan was the poet of my generation, unreservedly the “Shakespeare of the late 20th century.” The first of the best. It grates hearing him doing the stuff I yawned at the BBC Light Programme too. However much I’ve learned to appreciate what Sinatra did, he was an ageing swinger with Mafia connections who never wrote his own stuff.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 14:34:34 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: The Earth

Subject: Tragedy

Other than music: Not the forum for this, but the tragedy of London should NOT go unnoticed here. It can happen anywhere, and it has. Innocents wiped out by miscreant' ideology' (and I use that term with trepidation). Rage against the machine (that heartless machine that kills indiscriminately).


Entered at Thu Mar 23 14:09:25 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Great grates

"Is there anyone out there who can honestly say they still listen to Fallen Angels or Shadows In The Night? "

I'll be the first. But not as often as I listen to 'Blonde on Blonde'.

I take your point.

Yes, those were indeed masterpieces, standing up well to the earlier material.

Bob Dylan's dips are still mountains. With his band backing him, I remain committed to his versions of The American Song Book. (The word 'great' has been used in a political context recently and it grates).


Entered at Thu Mar 23 13:40:28 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Time Out Of Mind and Love and Theft are masterpieces that can stand with any music Dylan ever made. After Love and Theft it started to feel like he was singing somebody else's words but all the original albums had something to offer including Tempest. I don't think you can lump those records up with the Sinatra cover records. After the first couple of weeks I've never gone back and listened to any of the Sinatra stuff. In the past even lesser Dylan records like Down In The Groove or Under The Red Sky received months of initial playing and never really stop getting played. I can listen to Shenandoah or Born In Times forever. Is there anyone out there who can honestly say they still listen to Fallen Angels or Shadows In The Night?


Entered at Thu Mar 23 13:08:35 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: npr Tom Moon Triplicate

or you can read Tom Moon's essay at npr where it originated, I believe.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 12:54:32 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: An essay on Triplicate

For those of you who are internet miners, go to whro.org, then put 'Triplicate' into the search square, and listen to a sampler of Triplicate (33 minutes) if you wish, but importantly, read Tom Moon's essay and why Dylan and his band and the work Dylan is now doing matters! Mr. Moon said it better that I ever could, but that's what I meant.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 12:41:18 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: ...before they close the door.

As for Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen's last decade was indeed superb and interesting. But leaving the cover albums aside, one could argue that albums like Love and Theft and Tempest stand up well. For some, the cover albums have put a damper on their interest and this has been compounded by the concerts with greatest hits being somewhat muted. Oh well. As they say in the USA. The people have spoken. But there is still a large minority... or is that a majority? In both politics and in art, interesting things happen. Even 'Heaven's Gate', a movie I admired from the get-go, is having a relook with positive results. I think we haven't heard the last of Mr. Dylan yet.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 12:29:39 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Revival and resurrection

"Before Elvis there was nothing'. Though I revere Lennon, he was wrong in this case. Robert Johnson and many other blues artists preceded Elvis. They were something. We just didn't know it until technology caught up and allowed dissemination. In my view now, Elvis and those early rockers, including Chuck Berry, stood on the shoulders of some of the great blues artists that we now revere.

This is a whole different discussion from the one we are having about 'standards' by songwriters like Gershwin and the like. The love and love lost ballads of the rock era by some of our favourite artists stand on the shoulders of the Gershwins of the era of our parents and grandparents and of all those 'seniors'. They should not be ignored and fortunately, they are being revived

One may not want or like the Dylan versions (that's OK), but the songs themselves deserve critical listening. The world of the 'cover', whether it is of old blues, old folk, or old 'standards' is an interesting world since it allows some of our favourite artists to interpret with voice and instruments. To me, it is like a director taking an old play and reviving it for the stage or an old movie and presenting it again on film.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 09:52:36 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Honey Just Allow Me One More Chance

Thank goodness for minority opinion, JT. I’m always interested in defences of Dylan’s later work, though I personally find most of it a bitter pill to swallow. I’ll buy Triplicate, and I’ll buy The Gospel Years … I haven’t missed an album in many decades now … fifty years in fact. The Gospel Years might have some interesting Slow Train / Shot of Love stuff live or outtakes, because they’re both listenable albums, though my loathing for Saved is extreme. The last two albums, I found myself hugely impressed that a small band could reproduce such big arrangements, but always found myself wincing when the voice came in. I’ll never stop allowing him just one more chance. I swore after the last two live shows that I’d never go to see him again, but I have a ticket to see him in May. I also just bought an interesting modern bootleg LP of Bob doing cover versions live in the 80s and 90s.

So I don’t give up, but I do complain. I’m glad that someone is justifying what he does now, But Leonard Cohen’s last decade was vastly more interesting and accomplished.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 07:47:25 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.42)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: "Wow, a Rolling Stone, and we're about the same height."

Leslie Weinstein & Bobby Wachtel grew up in the same apartment building in Queens..

This is a great interview, Leslie West interviewing Waddy Wachtel.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 00:30:50 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.42)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Poor humor

Poor humor. Chuck Berris died this week.

Chuck Berry & then right away, Chuck Barris)


Entered at Thu Mar 23 00:08:36 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Agree to Disagree

JT, respectfully disagree, always. You're one of my favorite posters. For me, this music belongs to the senior citizens who came out in droves to support Trump and Make America Great Again. They can have it. John Lennon once said something like "before Elvis there was nothing" Of course that's not true and of course he knew that, but I think in this case it makes sense.


Entered at Thu Mar 23 00:00:21 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Feline

It looks like the 'Cat 'is out of the bag. Papa's got a brand new bag.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 23:57:20 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Minority opinion

Sounds like I am in the significant minority... not the first or the last time. It started when I liked Dylan and what he was doing with Levon and the Hawks in 65-66 and everyone I knew said he (and I by extension) was a traitor. Oh well. At least I'm not one of the 'deplorables'.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 23:09:05 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Worried Life Blues

Actually, looking for Chuck live clips, the irritating thing is that OK, he's miming, but he makes zero effort to pretend to be playing the guitar solo when doing so. So let's go for a clip with just a still photo. This is NOT Johnny B. Goode … for instance.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 23:01:33 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Don't You lie To Me

Wallsend, you could level that at Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard … and in all cases they had a limited range of song types, but certainly not “one song”. While Johnny B. Goode, Bye Bye Johnny and Rockin’ On The Railroad share a basis … it’s not the basis of Come On, or Brown Eyed Handsome Man, or Talkin’ Bout you or You Never Can Tell (for example).

I think Big Boys is above my expectations for a 90 year old, and I enjoyed it. Sure, I wondered if the guitar intro had been “cut and pasted” in and maybe it was, but if Chuck has recycled his major riffs and song types, I only wish Bob would start doing the same instead of doing Sinatra injustice.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 22:08:39 CET 2017 from (85.164.127.169)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Full circle, sort of...

Guess who'll be playing at a 3-day festival this summer, at the same site where our boys played the Woodstock Festival in '69?! (link above). Time for a little Woodstock/upstate NY adventure again!


Entered at Wed Mar 22 21:45:43 CET 2017 from (114.75.202.85)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Chuck Berry found a good formula for writing songs which he repeated over and over. Instead of saying he wrote lots of songs, it is probably better to say he wrote the same song lots of times.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 21:34:23 CET 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Perspective

I should say that I never appreciated what are called 'the old standards' when I was younger. I thought they were old fogie music and just pap. However, with the Dylan radio show and other exposures and with appreciation for Tony Bennett and Sinatra (some of it anyway) and with even Rod Stewart's covers a few years ago, and with my first hearing of 'Soon' and 'Let It Be Me' and a few other songs by Dylan, and with age and more understanding, my view of these songs has changed. I now understand (stupid me: why did this take so long to appreciate) how these songs form the underpinning of lyrical pop music (especially the songs of lost love etc) and the foundation for much of what came after. Taken with that perspective and with a careful ear, songs like 'Cry Me A River' and many of the songs of Dylan's recent output take on a whole new meaning.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 21:22:18 CET 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Heart

Bob F: I guess that we are going to have to agree to disagree. The ear of the beholder.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 21:03:22 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

World Gone Wrong and Good As I Been To You were and are great records. Dylan doing Pretty Boy Floyd or This Land is Your Land are great records. Dylan doing People Get Ready or Angel Flying To Close To The Ground or Copper Kettle or so many other great songs he's covered in the past are flat out wonderful. Nothing on the first two records of so called standards had any of that heart, soul or inspiration.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 21:01:01 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.42)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete. "I first met you" ... sounds like he wrote it to his wife. Pete, yes, a looking back, but not a very insightful or meaningful one..Regardless, to me, this is a really trite lyric. The possibilities were endless.... The music, well, for the sake of the people who buy it, hopefully the whole record isn't mostly reworking old licks & sections of songs.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 20:39:16 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Chuck lyric

The point is that very elderly people begin to find the era of their youth more "real" than today. Hence Chuck going back to that time and reliving it.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 20:28:32 CET 2017 from (65.92.193.29)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck n' Johann

Chuck Berry clearly influenced our guys' first record post-Ronnie, "Leave Me Alone" (linked).

Johann Bach clearly influenced the first bit of "Chest Fever". All thanks to Robbie, according to "Testimony", which has him saying something like, "'Toccata and Fugue in D Minor' would do splendidly in the intro to 'Chest Fever', eh Garth?"


Entered at Wed Mar 22 19:53:21 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.42)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Chuck obviously doesn't need anyone's approval, but, what the hell could be the inspiration or point of writing the lyrics to that song? In your eighties you got nothing better to write about? The only thing that could make it almost palatable is him relating to a great great grandson. Even so, a man in his eighties, with that life behind him, ain't you got nothing better to write about?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Is it rolling, Bob?

Unfortunately the Bootleg Series Volume 13 will be "The Gospel Years." Already announced in "Rolling Stone."

Triplicate annoys me as a title. Does he mean trilogy? If it were triplicate, you would get the same disc three times, not three different discs. A triplicate consists of an item and "two exact copies." Mind you, that might be what it will sound like.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 18:53:39 CET 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

Web: My link

Subject: Another obit

JT, you in particular might find this interesting, as well as the linked In Memoriam.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 16:11:20 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Subject: Why I think standards performed by artists matter

I would prefer Bob Dylan to release new songs which he has penned himself. I think it will happen in the future.

However, I appreciate the efforts of performers, including Bob Dylan, to interpret standards (Sinatra and others only sang them/ excellent songwriters wrote them) on recordings and in concert.

Last evening, we saw Rickie Lee Jones and Madeleine Peyroux in concert. Jones began with a moving version of 'Cry Me a River'. Throughout the concert, standards were performed with heart and creativity. Interspersed were the original songs by both songwriters. It made for a wonderful and creative evening.

While I understand the frustration of those who go to concerts to hear 'favourite hits or album cuts', these are artists. They create and part of their creativity is the ability to interpret with voice and instrument(s). This Dylan does effectively and extremely well on record and recently in concert.

An opinion: I think that the 'covering' of standards by Dylan affords him the fertile soil to dig deep again and find the words and melodies that will (in my view) result in new original creations to come. Just like listening to recordings at home as a youngster has resulted in a young woman taking those listening experiences have resulted in new creations and superb performances, so I think that its not a stretch to think that this kind of recording and performing in some way injects into the artist new impetus to create. In my continued optimism, I see this as part of the creative process for many artists.

And finally, I return to 1993 or thereabouts to 'World Gone Wrong' and 'Good As I Been To You' where covered folk and blues standards resulted in a stimulation of Dylan's creativity and ultimately 'Time Out Of Mind' and everything that came after. So, bring on 'Triplicate' and wait for what comes after. It will be good.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 14:26:03 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Peter V, that last Rodney Crowell song I posted It Ain't Over Yet actually features John Paul White also, from The Civil wars.

Dylan is playing a new outdoor venue in Kingston NY this June. Kingston is a few miles down the road from Woodstock. I can't help thinking being back in his old stomping grounds is going to give him a moment of inspiration and reflection. I imaging him stepping to the mike with that acoustic guitar on and ......putting the guitar down going back to the keyboard and playing 10 Frank Sinatra songs! Seriously has anyone ever been less excited about a new Dylan release? The only good thing is we're about 6 or so months aways from the next Bootleg Series. Speaking of that, how come Dylan's people can release these great sets every year while The Band team can only muster Last Waltz rereleases?


Entered at Wed Mar 22 13:27:02 CET 2017 from (86.128.183.128)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Bob. They really do come across as not great. Sadly, many of my musical heroes are not that nice. I don't understand the rush to self destruction that many seem to have.


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Posted by:

Ragtime

Bach was really great in bass lines and in rhythm. He did not write his lyrics himself, but the post office director of Leipzig, Picander, did it for him. These lyrics are not as good as Johnny B Goode. He mostly used texts from the Lutheran Bible, which Chuck certainly didn't...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Big Boys

Thanks for the link, Jeff. It's classic Chuck. "The girls want to stay and the boys want to play so it's rock 'n' roll till he break of the day" indeed. It's way, way better than I'd expected.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bach & Berry

They're incomparable in most ways. I guess Bach established the importance of the bass line, which Chuck made use of. Otherwise, I can't judge Bach's lyrics, what with not speaking German, but I'll bet he never wrote any as good as Nadine, Memphis or Johnny B. Goode. Again, maybe Bach could do a duck walk, but he was a keyboard player, so it seems unlikely he found the space to try it.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Are we really comparing Chuck to Bach?


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Posted by:

Peter V

I still have a Chuck Berry book of sheet music from 1964. Friends laughed scornfully at the time and said "You don't need sheet music for Chuck" BUT they used to make howlers trying to transcribe the lyrics. We got them right.


Entered at Wed Mar 22 08:53:37 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Repetitive? One might say the same about Bach.

Back in 1964 you could fill a youth club dance set with the works of Chuck and Bo. The secret was in alternating them. I guess The Rolling Stones did more Chuck covers than anyone and would get the prize for best Chuck covers band. Sometimes, as with Come On, I'd say they improved on the original.

Chuck came out of prison raring to go in 1963. The run of hits in England were Memphis Tennessee / Let It Rock (UK #6), Nadine (#27), No Particular Place To Go (UK #3), You Never Can Tell (UK #23), The Promised Land (UK #26). I'd say five of his ten best songs, all in a row. He was doing comparatively better here … those are all main pop chart hits. Let It Rock was the official A side, but Memphis was the one everyone played. He also had minor hits with Go Go Go and Run Rudolph Run in the same period.

The other thing about that 1963 / 1964 run was that no covers band equalled the originals, because Chuck had such a sly way of phrasing the lyrics that he was unmatchable. But he was on an intense creative roll.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Great as Chuck was, his music was very repetitive.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: New Chuck Berry single

Linked...It is what it is.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

I'm remiss, I think the last Rodney Crowell album i have is Life Is Messy. Which is brilliant. He was ending hsi marriage to Roseanne Cash, & if i remember correctly, John Leventhal was his producer, cowriter on some songs, and was all over the record as is his way. Leventhal and Cash have been married for many years now. How it goes, i bet they're all friends.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Rodney & The Stones

Solomon, I agree. It's really good. Like is to another song It Ain't Over Yet. This one features the great Roseanne Cash. Thinking about The Houston Kid. The last song on that record, I Know Love Is All I Need is one of my all time favorite songs.

Dunc, I didn't see the Stones until the next tour. I just read a great book about Altamont and the Stones 69 tour by Joel Selvin. Really enjoyable read. Anytime you read about The Stones they come off as great musicians and lousy human beings.


Entered at Tue Mar 21 19:57:43 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Chuck

Chuck Berry, Kennedy Center Honors, 2000. Skip to the halfway point, when the music starts. Sadly just a medley but some good playing and singing. Little Richard! And you get to see Goldie Hawn kick up her heels.

Solomon, thanks for the heads up on a new Rodney Crowell. I am reading a bio of Guy Clark (Without Getting Killed or Caught) and Rodney figures prominently in parts. His first record, IMHO, is one of those perfect ones we wereIf you have not read his (Rodney') Chinaberry Sidewalks, highly recommended. The Houston Kid, indeed.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Angie DIckinson

She's 5'5'' which isn't short for a woman, but she looked a lot shorter.


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Posted by:

Fred

If you think sumo wrestlers look big on TV, they're even bigger, much, much bigger in real life. Even the ones who look small on TV.

On the other hand, actors tend to look smaller in real life. My stepmother (when she was working for Alitalia in her 20s, ground staff) met Kirk Douglas. She was so disappointed on how short he was.

When I almost bumped into (literally) Angie Dickinson in Banff in the '80s she looked so tiny.


Entered at Tue Mar 21 16:09:43 CET 2017 from (24.114.74.27)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: right now, a coffeeshop in the Annex

Kevin J: Looked up from my latte (sorry) to see Ken Dryden at the cash. Jeez he's tall (and i'm not short).


Entered at Tue Mar 21 10:26:53 CET 2017 from (86.128.183.128)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Chuck Berry

Really enjoyed the Chuck Berry posts and links. I love the dance scene from Pulp Fiction, which I've linked.

Never saw Chuck Berry live. Had tickets for him while on holiday in Toulouse once, but the show was cancelled.

Coincidentally, I played 'Get Yer Ya Ya's Out' yesterday and there are two Chuck Berry numbers in this late sixties set of the Stones - 'Carol' and 'Little Queenie'. Did anybody, I'm thinking Joan or Bob, see this concert?


Entered at Tue Mar 21 09:26:02 CET 2017 from (79.75.164.210)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Rodney Crowell

Bob F - I had a listen and my own opinion is that this new Rodney Crowell album is right up there with Fate's Right Hand and The Houston kid.


Entered at Tue Mar 21 09:03:01 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The bronze Strat

Fender have done one. Hard to tell, but it sounds as if the bronzing is different and thinner … Robbie complained of its great weight. I hadn't realised Robbie had reconfigured the picks up either.


Entered at Mon Mar 20 23:10:06 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: I'M IN THE MOOD!!!!!!

Bonnie Raitt and John Lee Hooker.......son of a bitch, this is so good it's im-moral. look at some of the camera shots they did of Bonnie.......moooaaannnn!

Look at some of the comments! ....some guy wrote, when Bonnie started playin' slide guitar, I looked down and my pants had fell off.........baaaaddd!


Entered at Mon Mar 20 20:40:13 CET 2017 from (76.69.47.46)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck Berry "C'est La Vie"

LINKED: A real treat from the early 1970's - Chuck on a UK tv show and he prepares the back-up band for a run through of "c'est la vie"........this has it all...stay with it and you'll be rewarded for just a great take on the song.

"You could see that Pierre did truly love the mademoiselle / And now the young monsieur and madame have rung the chapel bell"


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Valdy at Hugh"s Room - "Play Me a Rock n Roll Song"

LINKED: Valdy - I love this song.....The track star line gets me every time


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Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Thanks Norm

Norm, thanks for the tip. I'm going to check out that Travelers show. I'm not really pick on that modern country sound but no question she has a lot of talent. To have success in both television and music is quite impressive. Good for her.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Mackenzie Porter

She's a sweet girl and has lots of videos here. The new series she is on is called "Travelers". Bob, if you don't know Valdy, he is on youtube, search "Play me a rock & roll song" That was his first big hit from the seventies. Our friend "Bonk" (Carl) will know him. They both live on Salt Spring Island.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Congratulations Nux

Our friend Nux Schwartz has won a very fine award. At the South African Film and Television Awards Nux won the "Sound Design" Awards. Congratulations Nux!

Bob F, I have been meaning to tell you. (Not sure if you are aware) the lady who plays "Maggie Palmer" the wealthy hotel owner on Hell On Wheels. Her name is Shelagh Horsdal. If you ever heard of our folk singer up here called "Valdy", Shelagh is his daughter.

As well the girl who played Cullen Bohannon's Mormon wife, her name is Mackenzie Porter, she is from Medicine Hat, Alberta. She is also a fine country singer, you can find her on Youtube. She is in a new TV series....the name escapes me at the moment.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Conor Oberst & The Felice Brothers

The Felice Brothers and Jim Keltner are the backing band on the new Conor Oberst. Many of these songs were on his last record as acoustic songs now get full band treatment. I really like the new version of the linked song, A Little Uncanny.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Rodney Crowell Nashville 72

Really good song from the new Rodney Crowell record coming out at the end of the month.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dave Bartholomew wrote My Ding A Ling in 1952. Chuck's only guilt was reviving it.


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Posted by:

Rod

Chuck Berry was a great songwriter - Johnny B Goode , Memphis, going back to memphis.... Very rythmic structures and a very similar delivery to Levon.


Entered at Mon Mar 20 01:59:10 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.137)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Alvins

JQ. Just popped in my head. Downey California boys who are artists, but you would not call them blues artists, who grew up on blues, and play blues , and tour blues and release blues occassionally, Dave Alvin & Phil Alvin, both have those deep, long exposures to and working relationships with many of the old GONE blues artists.


Entered at Mon Mar 20 01:32:43 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.137)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ. You were correct to use the term artist ( "it seems the number of artists that knew and worked with the great Chicago bluesmen is really diminishing), but let me point out. Cotton was one of them. Though he was a sideman first 7 often, he was an artist too.

Also, There are songs he performed as a vocalist that he did not get credit for on the record. Well known ones. i'll find em another time.

Now there are many PLAYERS of varying levels of musicianship who worked with many of the great old time & chicago bluesmen around. Artists is another story. /n The first legitimate great artists that come to mind are Bobby Rush, who is actually from the era, Steve Freund, Vasti Jackson, Dave Specter, Bonnie Raitt, Maria Muldaur, . there are some more, including women frm the blues genre, the ones I know of mostly located in Chicago & Texas. . I;d have t think on it, & check, but i think Trudy Lynn....Diunna Greenleaf, there's a good #...... There's a guy named John Long out in Colorado, & there's John Primer in Chicago. Lurrie Bell, is the very real thing, one of Carey's sons, i guess in his late 50s or maybe in his 60s. Lurrie is baaad, gonna be here next week., there's Floyd Miles ( all kinds of credits, including with Duane & Gregg Allman, Clarence Carter), Kenny Blues Boss Wayne is still running around............the #s are dwindling but they're spread around. And any of them that are healthy are working, & always looking for paydays..... Harder to find.


Entered at Sun Mar 19 23:31:27 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Chuck Berry and others gone now

Seems that Chuck Berry wrote songs that, lyrically, were more poetic and clever that what was typically going on in early rock n roll and rockabilly. My Ding A Ling might have been an exception.

Along James Cotton now, it seems the number of artists that knew and worked with the great Chicago bluesmen is really diminishing; just like the folks of the Greatest Generation; those that grew up in the depression and fought in WW2.


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Posted by:

Joan..

Subject: Chuck

I saw Chuck Berry at Fillmore East along with the Who and Albert King. A typical great Fillmore lineup. All chucks children are very sad today RIP Chuck Berry


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck Shows

I saw Chuck for the first time in 1970 or 71 at SUNY New Paltz on a triple bill with Seals & Crofts and CTA. Chuck played in the middle and was amazing. CTA was unbelievable during that time so they were more then able to hold their own. I saw him at Felt Forum in NYC in 1986 during his 60th birthday celebration with Dave Edmunds and John Entwistle. He barley played 50 minutes. It was a high price ticket. I remember everyone feeling let down. Link is from that show.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Steve Miller on The King of Electric Guitar.

On many levels and touching several subjects, this is a great, informative, & important read right till the end.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Dave Stallworth

An important member of those championship Knicks teams.RIP.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Chuck - Round & Round

First time I saw Chuck live was at BC Place in Vancouver. It was 74 or 5 I don't remember That's a pretty big place, 25 or 30 thousand. It wasn't a lot of fun people were doing the light the matches thing. There was a lot of drinking and people had puked on seats here and there so that the place stunk.

It's so long ago now I don't exactly remember but Chuck introduces one of his hit songs (I forget which one) then starts playing a completely different song. I don't know whether he was drunk or what. I don't remember who was playing with him but maybe he was at the end of a long trip or what ever but he didn't give us a great show that night.

I think there is a lot of us that made some pretty good coin on a lot of gigs playing those songs of his.


Entered at Sun Mar 19 17:40:51 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.137)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I think the first time i saw Chuck live was in the early 90s at a New years Eve show at Limelight in NYC. Angel Rissoff was on bass , Rob Stoner on guitar, and Howie Wyeth on drums. Gene Cornish was on the gig too, but Chuck told him to tune his guitar, so Gene refused to play. It's odd, because in earlier cases Chuck would untune his guitar after people had tuned it when he wasn't looking..Could be Chuck was looking to piss him off, provoke him off the gig. But his last band was in the habit of tuning his guitar whenever they could. Times his batteries weren't charged either. That was the case in 05 at the tribute to Johnnie at The Pageant.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Dave Stallworth & Jimmy Breslin have died.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Paul. To give some perspective to Chuck's quote about getting screwed on publishing and copyright by Leonard Chess & Friends, Chuck and they screwed Johnnie Johnson completely. Johnnie got thirty bucks per song, and that might have been for his performance. Most to all of the music part of the songwriting of the early Berry songs was Johnnie's. Berry admitted Johnnie wrote the music to his lyrics in front of seven people during the lawsuit. It looks like it will be in the next edition of Johnnie's bio by Travis Fitzpatrick.


Entered at Sun Mar 19 17:11:25 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

I treasure the 9 CD set "The Chess Years" with detailed annotation. It was issued by Charley, and like other Charley CDs rights were later disputed, not that disputes would be new to Chuck.

Back to Memphis (LINK TO CHUCK BERRY VERSION) comes from the Mercury period's first LP "Chuck Berry in Memphis" … and that included some interesting stuff. "from St Louie to Frisco" was the second Mercury album, with a decent horn section, plus Johnnie Johnson and Doug Sahm. The Mercury material has not been well-served on CD, but fortunately the LPs are not anywhere near as expensive as the British originals of the Chess albums, which are Pye International here. I find it hard to pass a Chuck Berry LP in a secondhand shop if the price is fair.

Chuck live was indeed usually a case of no rehearsal with bands picked on price not quality. However "Live at the Filmore" has the Steve Miller Band backing him. Even the nadir of his career, My Ding A Ling, actually has a great British backing band on the first version with Onnie McIntyre and Robbie McIntosh of the AWB.


Entered at Sun Mar 19 16:49:29 CET 2017 from (172.12.248.174)

Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago

I bought the huge Chuck Berry Bear Family Box (Any Old Way You Choose It), and I'm glad I did, though I had to sign over my first born to get it. The 16 CDs are a lot to plow through, and I owned a lot of it. But there were 20-25 performances -- B sides, album tracks, unreleased stuff that had not been easily available -- that stand with anything he ever did. I was hoping that the various live tracks, none of which I owned, would be good also, but with one or two exceptions they are not worth returning to. Chuck tossed off his live performances. But in terms of great songs and fantastic studio work, the sheer volume of his best stuff would stand with anyone's. I'd be interested in anything anyone wanted to say about "favorite obscure Chuck Berry track." My favorite Chuck quote not from his songs: in reference to giving Chess and his business associates some publishing on Maybellene, he said, "They took a third in lieu of my rookieness." Band content: I always thought it was great they chose the obscure but fantastic Back to Memphis, which I knew from their version years before I ever knew Chuck's. It's the only cover version I've ever heard to this day. RIP.



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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: "I'm gonna learn to dance if it takes me all night and day"

'Carol' by CB was my first record purchase ever. A 78.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 335

The Gibson 335 as favoured by Chuck Berry was also B.B. King's choice. It sounds warmer / richer than solid body Fenders. It has always been a popular guitar and considered to have a particular "sound."


Entered at Sun Mar 19 13:22:25 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Thanks for the link to Pass Away … I was about to go and seek it on the Hail, Hail, Rock & Roll box set.

The link is to Toppermost on Chuck Berry - it was an early one before we expanded on commentary, but it adds the ten best covers … a list that could go on forever.

There's one to seek out Eleanor McEvoy singing Memphis Tennessee very slowly. I heard it in a secondhand shop last week, and bought the album "Stuff" which is a compilation of outtakes and oddities. I've been playing it all week. I'd never heard of her, but apparently she's huge in Ireland. There are three bits of her Memphis on YouTube … all barred in the UK. You might be able to open them.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie & Chuck Berry - Pass Away (1986)


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Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Chuck Berry

My perspective on Chuck Berry is not that of a musician, so I won't go into his musical impact on me.

I never saw him live, nor Bo Diddley for that matter, even though I saw many of the r'n'b greats in my youth. I guess I viewed them as being at the poppier end of r-n'b - which is more about my own limitations that his - and I had only had so much money to spend on such things. Also, I'd come into his kind of music from the jazz and classic blues part of the spectrum. And I was a radio listener, not a record buyer, though his LPs (on Pye?) were played in the school sixth-form common room.

In the early 1960s, there were two Chuck berry songs that I remember being played: "Memphis, Tennessee" and "No Particular Place To Go". The former had such a cleverly constructed lyric, each verse adding a new element to the tale, each slowly revealing the 'true' story behind the call until the picture at the end was so different from one's initial assumption. And the latter showed a very different person, humorously frustrated by the "technology".

Another thing, given my musical journey at that time, was his appearance in "Jazz On A Summer's Day". He performed, as I recall, "Sweet Little Sixteen" and one of the musicians in the band was Jack Teagarden (who had a particular resonance for me but I won't bore you with that). In that film, all the musicians were clearly enjoying themselves so much, while members of the audience (older than me and my friends) were bop-bop-bopping away - all of which impressed me greatly.

At that time, I used buy JAZZBEAT magazine (which usually included quite a chunk on the blues and r'n'b, with a column by Guy Stevens) and I subscribed to BLUES UNLIMITED, which produced a Chuck Berry biography/discography to which Berry himself had contributed. My copy has my handwritten notes on it, I seem to think. I still have all those items around somewhere in the house.

My final comment. What struck me was that Berry was always photographed/seen with a semi-acoustic guitar, which I tended to associate with the jazz guitarists before him, whereas British guitarists mostly played his songs on solid-bodied guitars. Is there a reason for this?


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Chuck Berry

A great poet,songwriter,musician,guitarist,innovator,rabble rouser.He was R&R.I still recall leaving my office in a suit to go see Hail Hail R&R-the theater was filled with other Chucik Berry fans-in suits.RIP Chuck.


Entered at Sun Mar 19 08:35:35 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Chuck Berry

The finest of his generation of rock 'n' rollers. Wherever musicians gather to jam, a Chuck Berry song will be the common language, the esperanto that gets it rolling. The guy crystallised the guitar intro as we know it. As a lyricist, he was the best.

As I got on a city bus and found a vacant seat

I thought I saw my future bride, walking down the street,

I shouted to the driver, hey conductor you must

Slow down, I think I ses her, please let me off this bus …

There's that interview with Robbie on the box set too, where he talks about learning narrative poems by heart in prison.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bruce Springsteen on Chuck Berry.........

....."Chuck Berry was rock's greatest practitioner, guitarist, and the greatest pure rock 'n' roll writer who ever lived."......Amen


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Posted by:

Wallsend

There is not much that needs to be said about Chuck Berry. He was rock 'n' roll. At least he lived to a good age.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: The Great Great Chuck Berry

Taking the train today from Montreal to Toronto, the "shuffle" feature was in its glory by playing ""You Never Can Tell" and "Promised Land".....and hours later I get the news from The Band GB - as is norm these days for breaking news - that the legendary Chuck Berry has died. Simply put, everyone who has played r n r guitar and enjoyed r n r music over the last 50 years owes this man a great big thank you for making life more interesting and enjoyable........a massive influence and icon to so many......King of Rock N Roll is gone.

Wallsend: Just feel pity for the smallness and stupidity. Grace and greatness always transcends.....thinks Obama v Trump....same sort of nonsense.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Robbie's strat from TLW with standard hate posts in the comments section.


Entered at Sun Mar 19 03:48:07 CET 2017 from (50.64.154.83)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck. The Master Songwriter

Remembering Chuck for everything he gave us.


Entered at Sun Mar 19 01:35:39 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Who - Mama's got a Squeeze Box

While browsing thru' some youtube finding old Chuck Berry jems, I came across this animated video of the Who doing this old song......pretty funky.


Entered at Sat Mar 18 23:46:13 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.207)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck's new record on the way.

See the link


Entered at Sat Mar 18 23:32:03 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.207)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Chuck Berry has died.


Entered at Sat Mar 18 17:17:54 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.207)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

NWC, I'm heading out the door, but if your memory returns, i 'll see your e mail to me tonight.


Entered at Sat Mar 18 16:59:21 CET 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Googling Jeff A

Thanks Jeff for your response on Stocholm, Sweden. To find your email I tried to Google you and this is what I got:

"a fabulous name, anyone who has it should be proud, spontaneous (good in bed) ;) usually very sexy tall & thin (except for the few UNLUCKY Jeff's out there) DAMN BITCH! Jeff is so fine #sexy #smart #funny #clever #evil"

Doesn't bother me at all. It happens even in the better families, too. Like Clintons.


Entered at Sat Mar 18 16:22:25 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.207)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Madman (NWC) :-) Izzy is from The Bronx originally but if i recall properly, baked bagels in Bklyn and attended Bklyn College.

Brian Kramer, a fine blues guitar player from Bklyn who has lived in Stockholm over 20 years, hangs with Izzy regularly. Izzy can be found in his Folk Center, has plenty going on, even though he is ancient, and once in a while hits the bars for music. I don't have your email address, but if you recall my website, or van do some googling to find it, you have my email address. Or Peter or Jan can give it to you.


Entered at Sat Mar 18 16:09:03 CET 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: ABBA / Anni-Frid Lyngstad (especially to the Australians)

My two former teacher colleagues in our team in the small industrial town of Torshälla have succeeded to invent _A_ in ABBA to discuss on her life in this town where she spent her early years (and where we worked in the eighties). Normally she lives in Zermatt in Switzerland without any connections to the media. One of these guys was the band leader in the orchestra where she was the lead singer (before ABBA). I'll be there!


Entered at Sat Mar 18 15:23:35 CET 2017 from (83.249.177.82)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Israel Goodman Young / Jeff A.

In the near future we are going to Stockholm. In the early years (I mean _EARLY_ years when we used to eat lunch in the Chinese Restaurant near Izzy's bookstore.) I didn't really know who he was. It was before this godforsaken non-moderated internet forum. It was before the Internet, invented by the devil. So, we are going to eat "chicken shop suey" there again just like we used to do and walk past Izzy's bookestore where we listened to Happy Traum. Well, the MORAL of this story is simply that that you shouldn't do that because the restaurant will probably sell only kebabs.

Anyway, Izzy is an old man and propably not sitting in his bookstore in "The South" of Stockholm anymore. In case he is, I ask my gb friend JEFF A to post a recommendation letter to my email account, becaue I have some questions to ask.

No Dylan without Izzy, no Band without Dylan. I believe we all love him, good ol' Izzy.


Entered at Sat Mar 18 02:22:40 CET 2017 from (67.84.77.159)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jon. thanks, but there used to be a few on you tube, quite a while ago since I looked. I saw Rick do the song at least 4 or 5 times, likely more. A few of those times a young guy who looked like he'd been through the ringer a few times, sang it .One time magnificently. Honestly, the ones he was in on you tube didn't do the one great time i saw justice. Not at Wetlands. Lone Star. I only caught Rick at Wetlands once or twice. i wasn't crazy about the place.


Entered at Fri Mar 17 18:42:21 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A Fish Story

Nothing to do with music.....except.....maybe a real sweet song.

The link for this page is very long and a little difficult. I was talking with a friend, (fish stories). I told him about the biggest "Blue Fin Tuna" ever caught. Like many people he thought I was crazy. In 1979 the picture was in the Vancouver Province paper. I cut it out and kept it in a log book all these years because no one ever believes it.

Now a day of course, you just google, 1496 POUND BLUE FIN TUNA. It comes right up and there are as well many big fish. This fellow Ken Fraser caught this on a rod in Nova Scotia. They have those big rods and you are strapped in a chair and your rod is held in a cup by the bottom end so you can fight the fish. You may have seen this in "Jaws".

To get a fish now a day there is a draw you have to submit your name and sport fish license number and if you are drawn you get a chance at a fish. Take a look these are really something to see.


Entered at Fri Mar 17 18:42:57 CET 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

Jeff, not sure if this is what you're thinking of, but here's audio of Rick's 1993 Wetlands set where a friend of his does a guest vocal on Danny Boy towards the end. And even if not, I bet you'll enjoy it!


Entered at Fri Mar 17 17:23:48 CET 2017 from (67.84.77.159)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: New Knight.

Sir Kink!


Entered at Fri Mar 17 16:42:21 CET 2017 from (67.84.77.159)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

You Tube has become quite Trump Like (discriminatory & selective) the last several years. I'm looking for a Rick Danko version of Danny Boy for St Patrick's Day & there's none to be found.


Entered at Fri Mar 17 15:28:20 CET 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: James Cotton RIP

So sad to hear. I first saw James Cotton play on a double bill with the 90s Band -- July 4, 1996, a free outdoor show in downtown Manhattan.


Entered at Fri Mar 17 14:31:01 CET 2017 from (67.70.149.219)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

James Cotton on harmonica and stunning lead guitar work by Bobby Starr on this Ronnie Hawkins record from '64/'65.


Entered at Fri Mar 17 05:17:57 CET 2017 from (67.84.78.125)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Garth

Garth has participated in a few of those Last Waltz 40 shows with Warren Haynes & Co.( Dr John, Cyril Neville, Bob Msrgolin, Danny Louis etc) recently and is joining the tour for 7 dates in California and Texas.


Entered at Fri Mar 17 00:54:11 CET 2017 from (67.84.78.125)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

James Cotton has died. Last time i saw him perform was in 2004. My friend Larry Johnson, had his annual Outdoor at Lincoln Center show and that year he had all Arkansans joining him. Cotton, Billy Lee Riley, and " the Human Jukebox", Sleepy La Beef. they were all phenomenal, but Billy Lee Riley knocked me out. I think Larry did that show one more year... He died this past summer. ..


Entered at Thu Mar 16 13:56:41 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Fortunately, none of us were lying. But the thought does go through your head about how much you really trust the other guys.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 13:35:49 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

She never asked any questions. She'd just say "You're lying."


Entered at Thu Mar 16 13:33:38 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Lyin' Eyes

One of my maternal grandmother's superpowers was being able to tell when someone was lying. She was very good at catching someone when they were lying, including yours truly...... once, only once, when I was in Grade 4. : )

Years later when I was in high school I asked her how she knew...she said it was all in the eyes.



Entered at Thu Mar 16 13:21:20 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Roadie's Tale

Norm, there used to be a roadie’s tale (and outside Dover docks, a sign does point to Canterbury). When you arrived back in the UK from Germany, the customs tended to go over the van and equipment. We once had to unload the lot, including a Hammond B3 and line it up on the tarmac. He then made us stand in a line, and said “I always know when people are lying. I will look you in the eye and ask you ONE question.” Arrogant twit … he thought he was an army drill sergeant, I think. Then the dog sniffed the speaker cabinets etc. Now, the roadie’s myth was that if they found nothing, you could insist the customs officers reloaded the van for you. Personally, I thought it would be foolish to ask, and anyway, it took us a whole afternoon working out how to get everything in originally, and if one mic stand was in the wrong place even, the doors wouldn’t shut. So we did it.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 13:11:50 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I once told my Orlando "nice immigration" story and an American told me that "Disney owned Orlando, including the airport" and did not like tourists being hassled, so it was always the nicest airport in the USA. OK, maybe best to let Disney run the lot …!


Entered at Thu Mar 16 11:59:59 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: On the Other Hand

In 1979 I had a 1957 Ford Skyliner Retractable Hardtop Convertible. Back then I spent $12,000 restoring that car. Any one who hasn't seen one the top has electric screws and motors activated by solnoids. You pull a switch and the top unscrews about ten inches at the front folds under, the trunck opens backwards and the top goes into the trunk.

If I still had that car today, it's worth about $100,000. Anyway my wife at that time, Anne and I had'nt been together that long, (Anne has 9 sisters and 5 brothers). All those girls were gorgeous back then Anne is the oldest and then the rest were in their teens and early twenties.

Anne begged me one day if her and her sisters could take the car down to Washington shopping. It was a nice sunny day so I threatened her with her life and let her take it. There was six of them in the car so their shopping stuff they put in the trunk and had the top down on top of it.

On their return at Canadian Customs at the Peace Arch crossing this agent got real testy with them (trying to impress all these girls I guess). He made Anne put the top up and some of their purchases were in boxes that were stapled. He took out a box and stuck it up on the roof of my car. This car had 10 coats of black laquer on it. It was like looking down a well. Anne came unglued on this guy. She said you scratched this. Do you know what my husband is going to do when I get home? I want your badge number right now and you are going to write a report of what you just did. Which he had to do. Next day I went over to New Westminster where I had the car painted. I got a report from the painter to polish these scratches out. I took the work order for the paint job and went down to Customs, found the Manager and showed him. Now did the shit hit the fan. That cost Canadian Customs $270...stupid little shit.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 10:45:50 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: And a fourth …

When I was flying a lot in the 80s and 90s, I had a year or two where I lost two suitcases completely, and had a couple of 24 hour late-arriving suitcases. As a result, I was as nervous as a kitten whenever I was waiting for my bags at the carousel. I found that every time I returned to the UK, I was directed to the table to have my bags opened and searched. It takes a long time. They’re thorough. I got increasingly pissed off. I guess I was a lone male, not wearing a suit … who does on planes now, but business people did then.

Eventually, I lost my temper, and said “OK, this is the sixth time in six flights that I’ve been searched. Why? What am I doing? ‘

The customs guy said, ‘OK, just go through.’

I sad, ‘No. You stopped me AGAIN, I’ll open my case and you can search it!’

He said, ‘No. Go through …’ then he paused. He said, ‘We are watching the carousel on TV. We stop people with certain body language.’

I explained about my lost cases, and he said, ‘That’ll do it. You had all the body language of a very worried man on the TV.’

I’ve never been stopped since, but I also think after two or three searches, I was expecting to be stopped, and showed it somehow.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 10:39:23 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: oooops...colour me blushing red

That should have been "any". : )


Entered at Thu Mar 16 10:37:19 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

When I got to Japan, back in the heady days of 1988, going through customs, the officer asked me if I had an pornography. I was very tempted to say "Yeah, whaddya want?" But thought better of it.

I did get frisked as he thought I lied to him about not having a nasal inhaler. Apparently (at the time) it was illegal to bring in the country. Why? To this day I have no idea, other than to say "That's Japan for you".


Entered at Thu Mar 16 09:58:22 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Three immigration stories …

Haso, your name is a solid Lancashire name, shared with the lead singer of Renaissance.

First half of the 1980s. My co-author Bernie was on a ludicrously strenuous Latin American trip which involved from memory Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Brazil, Guatemala and Mexico. Our publisher, OUP, was trying to economize far too much on air fare and making what should have been two or three trips into one. It ended badly. They had advised Bernie that he should obtain a US visa, because on the return trip he would be changing planes in Miami. They said the two worst airports for hassle were Miami and Houston … in those days, you stopped in one or the other to get from London to Mexico City. Bernie disagreed, saying it was a two hour transit change and it wasn’t worth the effort. Of course the Mexico City-Miami flight was delayed three hours, and he missed his connection to London. He had no US visa. He was handcuffed, and driven for an hour in the back a windowless truck to a suburban building where a private company incarcerated him overnight without his shoes and belt and without food. He was put on the flight home … his passport was only returned when the plane was in the air. The last thing US immigration said to him, “You will now find it difficult to ever re-enter the USA.” Bernie replied, ‘So why do you think I’d ever want to?’ He never did. As Bernie had visited every Middle-Eastern country, and most of Latin America, he said the Miami people were the most officious and aggressive in all his travels.

On the other hand … early 1990s. We were staying in Niagara-On-The-Lake (advice of my Canadian editor). We decided to visit the US side of the river, drove across, got a US entry stamp – we had visas. Spent the day, went back via Niagara Falls (USA). There was a lot of traffic on the bridge. I tried to find a checkpoint, thinking about exiting the USA officially, but they were just waving us through into Canada. We left from Toronto. Five months later, December, we arrived in Orlando. The officer looked at our passports. “You entered the USA in July. And you have no exit stamp. So according to your passports, you have overstayed a three month visa. I told him the story. He laughed and said, ‘Officially, the Canadians should have stamped your US exit in Toronto. You are so lucky this is Orlando, where we listen to people. If this was Miami or New York, you’d be straight on the plane back to England.’

This stuck in my mind two years later. We did the Alaska cruise, where you enter the USA on the pier in Vancouver. When you arrive back, you just walk off into Canada. I had the sense to go and find the US officials and get exit stamps on our passports … not a service that was being generally offered!


Entered at Thu Mar 16 07:55:51 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.39)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

But i really loved that song- Maria, also from West Side Story.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 07:44:32 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.39)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Songs from Childhood - First one I thought of.

When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 06:52:07 CET 2017 from (24.114.101.118)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Song memory from childhood ....

....if there is one song above all that stands out for me as a memory from childhood - it would be "Galveston" by Glen Campbell.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 04:33:12 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: RR

Taking my time w/ Testimony, the 2nd time through. Kinda bulled right in after I got it when Robbie was on his book tour. Since then a friend borrowed it after Born to Run (he's as big a Bruce guy as we are Bandilitos). He thought it's a bit surprising any of 'em, pop music in general, made it into their senior years... drugs, sex, & r'n'r.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 04:22:24 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: travelin'

Ok, late to the party here, Jerry, Norm, Peter and the rest. I didn't see any travel stories like this:

About '07, '08 not just stuff in my bags, but I got detained. Fortunately not dumped in the trashcan like your meatballs or the 5 or 6 bottles of homemade jam my wife wanted to take out for Christmas gifts in '04 or so. So... in the Houston airport the customs form got marked up in red, we were led behind the rope/screen and all that stuff to a secure room. After 2 hours or so (I was reading the NY Times while waiting, but back then, that was ok), finally let go. My wife had only been detained about 30 minutes; long enough to see the bathrooms w/ no doors and the other waiting area w/ benches/handcuffs/leg irons, when she went to the loo. I think she raised a bit of a ruckus "outside" an hour or so later, when it started to look like we would be missing our connecting flight. Some official took us both, at a dead run, to make the flight w/ 2 minutes to spare (never even looked at the customs forms). Long & short, I was sure they realized they'd have to put us up for the night in Houston and would rather have a "miss" on their tally sheet than spend the $.

Now my time in detention: I won't go into the few other folks there, or how they were treated. I never got any interview more that maybe a minute when some office guy gave me the impression that my surname, (Haslam) tickled them or something. I always guessed afterwards that you change around a letter, add an extra "l" or "s" and it might sound Arabic. In fact it's English, lots of them I'm told around Blackpool and Liverpool. (My brother always figured we were from poor sheepherders, only had 1 lamb).

Anyway, probably twice as many, quite young, customs officials clattering around, w/ their prominent sidearms than there were detainees. One guy infrequently tried to see if I'd screw up.

"So, just back from Iraq?" No actually visiting Nicaragua where our daughter works for your and my government (Uh oh, Peace Corps).

"I've been (in your state), once, relatives there". Yeah that city's about an hour from my house.

"Do you have a driver's license?" You folks already took that and my passport. "How 'bout your social security card?" I didn't really answer that as any dipshit knows you're never supposed to carry that in your wallet.

I don't recall now, but I think he tried a couple of other semi-involved approaches, but unfortunately I was just another of the 37 million folks here traceable to the Mayflower and they couldn't make my name fit their list. It's made for interesting tales ever since. Unique view of how our border guardian stuff works, or doesn't; at least at that point 10 years ago. I do remember being kinda pissed at the "minder"; as we boogied to make the last connection to Boston, he mostly talked on to my spouse. I sorta wanted to say, "Hey, SoB, I'm the one you kept for 2+ hours, not her; maybe your apologies are misdirected". But she can raise a good ruckus when need be.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 03:23:38 CET 2017 from (75.98.19.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

Fred: "When You Awake" would be my suggestion. The pop song that did it for me when I was a child, pre-Band, was "My Favourite Things".


Entered at Thu Mar 16 01:49:56 CET 2017 from (24.114.101.118)

Posted by:

Kevin J

"Life is a Carnival" hands down.


Entered at Thu Mar 16 01:24:05 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: The people that you meet...in your neighbourhood

Stevie Wonder on Sesame Street in the '70s.

The full episode must be on the 'net somewhere.

I wonder had The Band been a guest on the show, what song would they have performe?


Entered at Wed Mar 15 20:39:33 CET 2017 from (114.75.197.146)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Did somebody say Sesame Street?


Entered at Wed Mar 15 18:43:38 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Sharon Lois & Bram

My kids loved the Canadian group Sharon Lois and Bram. First concert I took my daughter to was their performance at the Mid Hudson Civic Center. Raffi was also very popular with the Wheels on The Bus. Though I have to admit my daughter did switch to Madonna rather early on. She would watch the tape of Madonna's greatest video hits over and over. It just happens.


Entered at Wed Mar 15 16:51:04 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Kids music

I lament that I did not get custody of the Sesame Street LPs I collected when my son was of the age. Many were parodies of pop songs. (I think the Beatles publishers sued at one point, but were shamed into withdrawing their suit.) Link is to one of my favorites, although the video does not contain my favorite line, when Grover asks, "Is everybody fuzzy?" Maybe you had to be there...


Entered at Wed Mar 15 15:56:35 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It's more the thing. Now parents seem to think that BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM with a female pop star wailing over the top is kid's listening. I always went for a story or a repetition in the song.


Entered at Wed Mar 15 14:55:33 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Dr. Seuss

Hell! when we were kids we sang songs like "Two Old Maids in a Feather Bed." :-)

The song in this link is a song I used to get my kids to sing together on a long drive. It always stopped the fighting.


Entered at Wed Mar 15 14:54:33 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Rick Danko did Blue Tail Fly for a children's compilation. It's "barred" on YouTube, so no link.


Entered at Wed Mar 15 14:47:55 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: kid songs

Hmm...Marvelous Toy (Tom Paxton), Froggy Went A'Courtin', There's a Hole In the Bottom of the Sea. Of course, these are from my childhood.

Don't have my Sing Out! book handy or there would be laundry list.

WXPN in Philadelphia has a long-running kids show (Kathy O'Connell's Kids Corner) that plays more contemporary songs...Birdhouse In My Soul, Star Trekkin', If It Looks Like a Duck, and many more I recall at the moment. Since my son is now over 30 and getting married in April, I don't listen to the show too much and I'm sure there are a slew of new songs. Kids albums are a revenue stream for a lot of artists, it seems, many motivated by entertaining their own offspring.

Finished 'Testimony' during our East Coast snow day yesterday. Very well written, but ended too soon. Volume II?


Entered at Wed Mar 15 12:26:21 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Subject: The Children's Marching Song = This Old Man

The Children's Marching Song = This Old Man

'He played knick-knack' or is it 'nick-nack'?

Mitch Miller

US single. 1959


Entered at Wed Mar 15 12:14:28 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Flights of famcy/'This Old Man'

Peter: Yes... internal (same country) flight crossing only provincial borders - Toronto to Victoria BC flight. 'This Old Man" (many versions, including Bob Dylan).


Entered at Wed Mar 15 11:16:48 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Kids Songs

Kids songs.

Two generations of experience here. The BBC did a total of four double CD collections of “Children’s Favourites” based on requests. Three were general, one 2 CD set was Christmas. They’ve recompiled them in many ways since. We got the lot … they run from the 1930s to 1970s. The glaring missing item is On Top of Spaghetti, which I’d guess they couldn’t license. We have a LONG Playlist on the iPod in the car. Many were novelty adult hits Three at least of the all-time “Top Ten” with our kids are no longer played, because they’re by Rolf Harris and he’s in prison.

So here’s a useful well-tested Top Ten:

On Top of Spaghetti- Tom Glazer X

Lollipop – The Chordettes

Puff The Magic Dragon – Peter, Paul & Mary

Pick A Bale of Cotton – Lonnie Donegan

I Know An Old Lady – Burl Ives

The Wheels On The Bus – Jonathan Richman

Ice Cream Man – Jonathan Richman

Who’s Afraid of The Big Bad Wolf – Henry Hall & The BBC Dance Orchestra

Little White Bull – Tommy Steele

Robin Hood - Dick James

Any additions?


Entered at Wed Mar 15 11:02:22 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: I lost my poor meatball …

JT left me humming On Top of Spaghetti all night … it is, for those with kids and grandkids, our 40 year all-time favourite kids in-car song.

Was it an internal flight? I would have thought meatballs would have been the issue … the USA is particularly sensitive that all meat products must be declared at customs. The UK / EU is even tighter: "You can’t bring meat, meat products, milk, dairy products or potatoes into the UK from outside the EU. " So not even if you declare it.

It reminds me of a Portuguese friend from many years ago. If she had been back to Madeira, she would invite us to a dinner of Portuguese specialities. We were in mid-tuna steak which she said was direct from Madeira, when she said, "You're not allowed to bring it in. So we bring it in our suitcase - we put it in the dirty laundry bag so no one can smell it." OK, I know it would have been heavily wrapped … but even so … I mean even the lack of refrigeration didn't sound good!


Entered at Wed Mar 15 00:01:01 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Saucey!

Gawd damn Jerry! I think you been traumatized by having to pour that beautiful sauce out. I got some really great sauce I can let you have....at a price that would make Wimpy happy!......y'know :-)

I make the best meatball subs in North America. I got to loving "Subway" meat ball subs so I started making my own quite a while ago. My sauce is exsguiset!!!


Entered at Tue Mar 14 23:36:20 CET 2017 from (24.108.163.242)

Posted by:

Jt

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Meatballs 2

Mouthwash, toothpaste and perfume are one thing. I see that all the time when I am flying. That stuff gets confiscated. Meatballs with sauce is something totally different.


Entered at Tue Mar 14 20:26:19 CET 2017 from (24.114.101.118)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Travel & Moreton Island

Norm: Thank you for the link to Moreton Island. I spent a few days in Surfers Paradise a while back so I guess I was close to the island but was not aware - a little slice of Bali it looks like ! Stunning - clean - beaches all around that area. Bali has all sorts of beauty but their beaches are not as pristine...................while this may sound a bit fairy, the best soap I've ever came across was purchased at a honey soap shop in Tasmania - don't remember where exactly but it was honey soap - square blocks about 3 inches by 3 inches......also purchased the best coasters ever in Tas.....tigers and Wallsend's Devils !

Travel and immigration: I have all sorts of stories but the funniest one involved a TV.........the last night of a trip overseas returning to Canada on a flight the next morning......normal routine of packing the bags...about 11:00pm and as the night is going on and the packing continues......I'm puttering around the room with the TV on.....wanting to change the channel, I realize I can't find the Remote......anyhow, no big deal....I turn off the tv by pushing the button at the front of the set......next morning - up and to the airport..........15 hours later I arrive to Canada and get asked to go to the immigration section of the arrival pass-through.....the lady asks all the regular questions and the the bags are opened. She reached in and turning over some shirts put her hand on something and pulls up the TV Remote control ! All I could say was "damn, that's where it was!" The immigration lady laughed pretty hard. This was pre-9/11

Just months after 9/11, I hand-carried a cuckoo clock back from Europe.......don't get me started on this story...


Entered at Tue Mar 14 17:18:34 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Liquids

I had a similar thing happen Jerry, last time we went to Mexico. I had a very small plastic bottle of mouthwash in my carry on bag. I can't quite remember Listerene I think it was 200 milileters. You are only allowed I believe 125. This was in Comox the security people were very nice. They said "You can take it backout and leave it in your truck if you like." Well it was raining like hell so I just said put it where ever what you do with them. I don't know what a person might have in a little sealed bottle of Listerene, but who knows what lengths the crazies will go to now a day to cause trouble.

Doug! thanks for that! When I get to Hobart I'll tell my friend Peter who I'm going to visit. Maybe we can do that. You gotta love oysters.


Entered at Tue Mar 14 15:16:50 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Meatballs... not the movie

Liquids: Arriving at the security line at the airport, a container of meatballs in a meat sauce is removed by the guard who says it must be confiscated. When pressed, his comment is (and this is supported by the head of security who is called over) that he cannot from the container determine the actual volume of the liquid in the meat sauce. If the volume is not marked and cannot be determined, the rule is that the container cannot cross the security area and must be confiscated. So what does one do? With the approval of security who attended the event, the passenger with the meat sauce, accompanied by a security guard, goes to a garbage receptacle directly outside of security, and watches as the passenger pours off the liquid meat sauce and retains the meatballs. This really happened. I was the passenger and those meatballs were personally cooked for me.


Entered at Tue Mar 14 08:57:26 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Travel experience

A dozen years ago, so after 9/11, but before the sophisticated scanners and sniffers, I was in a line to leave at the US airport. I was beckoned and told to go into the curtained personal search booth. The rubber glove comes to mind. The officer closed the curtains and said, “Relax, sir. We are not allowed to use ethnic profiling, so you are the token white middle-aged male … I’m not going to search you, but just stand there for two minutes before you go out. So how’s the weather in England?’


Entered at Tue Mar 14 08:52:18 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Travel Advice

A friend had flown from Bogota to another South American city. As the luggage came round on the carousel, several large dogs were running across the top of the bags. They all leapt on a set of beautiful leather bags and proceeded to bite and rip at them. The local immigration officers drew guns. A lady came forward. They demanded she open the now ripped and saliva sodden bags. She had many bars of Swiss chocolate. The dogs were trained with chocolate as a reward. (It’s also dumb to carry chocolate in case your bags are left out in full sun!)


Entered at Tue Mar 14 04:24:34 CET 2017 from (203.10.111.130)

Posted by:

Doug

Rockin' Chair, go to Bruny Island just south of Hobart and eat some oysters. You won't be sorry.


Entered at Tue Mar 14 01:07:48 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Let Me At'em!!!

I just reread recent posts and realized I was taken in. Ass holes using posts from before to try and bring themselves in to have their links opened! KILL THEM JAN!!!!!!!!!!!!


Entered at Tue Mar 14 00:43:13 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Spelt it wrong

I think I got it right!


Entered at Tue Mar 14 00:39:17 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Paradise

Kevin, I forgot to mention. Don't know if you have ever been in the area. Just off the coast from Brisbane, is Morton Island. An absolute little paradise. Matheww and our Jenny were married on the beach there.

I have attached the website for it. Hope it works, we will be spending four days there shortly. I'm hoping it will help the arthritis. I have to say even in the last 3 months that I haven't been at the wheel in bad weather, and out moving machinery I am feeling great relieve. Without being in the bunk worrying about deck hands on watch, and snuggled up to my Susie........my life is wonderful! The 55 years of work was worth it all.

I guess I haven't finished off the web page some how. It is

https://www.morton-island.com.au/ I don't know the rest.


Entered at Tue Mar 14 00:24:11 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hair today.......Goon tomorrow!!

It appears there is a blood transfusion of new blood here! Wonderful!! Welcome Y'all! Some great comments, "Old Hippy" prehistoric Dylan fan.....I love it!

Lynrd Skynrd..........I don't think I spelt that right....what the fuck. Y'all got to know. The band was named after their high school gymn teacher.......who hated those long haired little pricks!.....I love that too.

Thanks for the heads up Kevin. I recall you mentioning aways back the confrontation at the Hobart Airport. We have the cushion of having our daughter there whose husband is a local.

Susan and I only carry about five kilos each of hash and coke.....so......we're ok :-).

I don't know if you have chanced to see yet. One of the new "Reality TV" shows is the Australian Customs. THEY ARE BRUTAL!........I'll be on my best behaviour alright...and THANKS!


Entered at Mon Mar 13 22:41:23 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.173)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Masterpiece Debut Albums

Child Is Father To the Man. Blood Sweat & Tears.



Entered at Mon Mar 13 22:39:53 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.173)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Masterpiece Debut Albums

"pronounced 'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd", by Lynyrd Skynyrd.


Entered at Mon Mar 13 22:28:34 CET 2017 from (114.75.204.15)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, the problem is that the cut and paste posts often make more sense than real posts. Kevin, mate, it was for your own protection. It the Tassie devils had got a smell of the apple on you you would have been done for.


Entered at Mon Mar 13 21:58:11 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Happy Christmas to you, too, Kevin.

brown album had a minor hit with rag mama see my website.


Entered at Mon Mar 13 21:54:46 CET 2017 from (24.114.101.118)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Kinda pissed that I never get cut and pasted ! Happy New Year, everyone.

Norm:. Have fun and safe travels in Australia..... A heads-up to be taken seriously....Austrailia has very strict immigration controls and even travelling Provence to Provence, their policies are to be taken literally. I once nearly got shot for having an apple in my bag on arrival from Melbourne to Tasmania, I think it was. Actually I did alert them and out came the dogs and all was done with smiles and laughs but I have seen all kinds of drama at Australian airports.

Bob F: Thank you, you were bang on about how the Frampton Comes Alive album was both the best and worst thing to happen to Peter F as he never really did anything songwriting wise after that that even remotely approached those songs........What he did do was continue to play great guitar and to even get better on the instrument. I have great respect for that.


Entered at Mon Mar 13 21:21:33 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I thought the cut & paste with "happy New Year" in March particularly interesting.


Entered at Mon Mar 13 20:51:52 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cut & paste crap …

We have cut & paste crap … it's all very well blocking them, but couldn't we organise a posse to go over and lynch the bastards?


Entered at Mon Mar 13 20:02:37 CET 2017 from (139.190.218.196)

Posted by:

Philips

Subject: Gail Garnet

The idea was to keep recording and going on as a Band after TLW, and given NLSC and the studio side of TLW it might have worked. Into the eighties, baby boomer fans started craving the veteran groups like nobodies business. I thought John Simon's comment that the reassembled group because a favorite of trashy rednecks was interesting, perhaps using Levon as a way to refight the civil war? Anyway, as with most sad stories, what resonates is the waste, waste, waste. Well, Happy New Year, let's hope it surprises us.


Entered at Mon Mar 13 20:00:11 CET 2017 from (139.190.218.196)

Posted by:

John Carter

Location: Pacific Northwest

In fact, it was three one-act plays. One was called "Motel" and had car headlights blazing into the audience at one point and the cast wore big dolls' heads. Another involved a session with a psychologist, more interested in money than his client-patient. The third, I can't recall visually but, somewhere in the house, I have the "script", which was published in a Penguin paperback. I must dig that out some time.


Entered at Mon Mar 13 14:55:54 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Switch

Since memories surface and some are positive, I'll say it briefly: The Band's first album was the purist evocation of heartfelt 'folk' (the people's)music that I had ever heard from an ensemble. Where that came from after their former life as Levon and the Hawks is a question for the ages. This was such a switch from the music of the bars that it was as if they were replaced by 5 other musicians. How did it affect me? I was in another place when I first heard it through. Though the Brown album was a giant step forward from MFBP and though The Band continued to grow in the early 70s, it is that first eruption of new creativity that lives on in my emotional memory.


Entered at Mon Mar 13 10:21:57 CET 2017 from (86.171.129.218)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

That was a great period, Ian. I'm too young for that era. Really like Bert Jansch, but had to wait until Pentangle to see him. Peter had me googling last week and I found a home recording of Sandy Denny and Alex Campbell singing together at his house in Glasgow. Not great, but interesting. Never saw Alex Campbell, yet saw many others from that era - Davey Graham, Hamish Imlach and Billy Connnolly, the banjo player, etc.

Good to see you back, JT.


Entered at Sun Mar 12 16:13:26 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Bryan Ferry

Speaking of song and dance men, thanks Jeff for the Bryan Ferry info. He's a true troubadour with great translation and always a great band as this time as you note. Maybe new dates will be added to 'fill in the blanks'.


Entered at Sun Mar 12 15:09:40 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Standards

"Do you think of yourself primarily as a singer or a poet? Oh, I think of myself more as a song and dance man, y'know"

As 'Triplicate' looms on the horizon (end of March 2017), consider these words from Dylan in 1965 in his San Francisco interview of 1965. With his standard covers of the last 2 albums and even the folk and blues covers of the 90s, the mining and interpretations of these wonderful songs has given us a different Dylan than the ones we have come to know.

Clearly, for some, this is anathema. Some don't want this Dylan and my perception is that that's OK with Dylan. To some, who have the perception of Dylan as the rebel (like James Dean), the poet/spokesperson of a generation (which like it or not, willing or not, he was by his words, the creator of surreal lyrical songs with renegade characters, losers and punks), or even the pop minister of the slow train, Dylan's most recent 'transformation' leaves some people longing for their own image of Dylan. He lives in their memories as he does in mine from all those years ago when I saw him and heard him and felt those words and melodies in my heart and brain.

Just my opinion now. I've listened again and again to the last 2 albums and to the new songs now available from 'Triplicate'. They are not the Dylan's I have incorporated into my music life from the past. These songs are a new Dylan and, having listened, I like what I hear and admire the work. It is not the mind-bending Dylan lyrics that brought me to him when I was 15 and kept me there for all those years. It is a Dylan of my 60s who takes songs from the past and puts them out there for reexamination and with his interpretations, sings of love and loneliness and sorrow with a renewed voice and a secure and effective band behind him.

I still want new music with 'rebel lyrics' and hard guitars. They are not so hard to find if you search and keep your ears and eyes open. There is no 'new Dylan' and there doesn't have to be. But there are many alternatives to listen to and that keeps me going. As for Bob Dylan, as always, he can do what he wants and I'll still be there. He's earned the right not only to do what he wants to do but to ask me to at least consider what he is doing in the light of day in 2017. For me, what he is doing is 2017 is OK.

Do I still think he has more 'personal lyrical Dylan songs' to create and to offer to us? Yes I do. Like the high priest, Leonard Cohen or the creator Paul Simon, that talent never goes away. He'll do it if and when he wants to do it and again, he'll knock my socks off, like he did with TOOM and this 2000s albums that came after. I wait for it. IMO.


Entered at Sun Mar 12 10:59:58 CET 2017 from (92.54.175.179)

Posted by:

Peter V

Good to see Jerry back. Many thanks for the info on Madeleine Peyroux's UK tour.


Entered at Sun Mar 12 05:33:16 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.60)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Bryan Ferry tour

Everyone should be on the lookout for the Bryan Ferry tour.

They're hitting the U.S., Canada, Austria, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Norway, some of the countries they go through twice.

Amazing band.. He's got Neil Jason on bass, Chris Spedding on guitar. Spedding you all know about. Some of you will be familiar with Neil Jason. He's one of the best bassists you'll find anywhere. Grew up in Canarsie, Bklyn, was one of the in demand NYC bassists by twentyish. Toured with Miles Davis, worked with The Stones, Nevilles, Was & still is the bassist in The Brecker Brothers ( even down one brother, they still tour), Spyro Gyra, worked with Levon, the list is endless.


Entered at Sun Mar 12 04:34:48 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Centurwion

Thwo him to the floor!....yes vewwy woughwy please!

Now! Jewish wapscalion!


Entered at Sun Mar 12 04:28:46 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Under the radar again

Under the radar again

1. Sarah Jarosz

2.Nadia Reid

3.Julie Byrne

4. Madeleine Peyroux

5.Tift Merritt


Entered at Sun Mar 12 04:02:53 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria mostly

Subject: Under The Radar

Under the radar:

1. Joseph Arthur

2. James McMurtry

3. John Craigie

4. Lee Harvey Osmond (Tom Wilson)

5. Stephen Fearing

Thanks, guys.


Entered at Sat Mar 11 20:41:06 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

In that case,thanks to Ian W for bringing JT back into the fold. I missed him - thought he must be on some world cruise or something.


Entered at Sat Mar 11 20:37:19 CET 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Stormy Weather

Old fashioned blizzard with winds gusting over 100 kms. It's OK. We're lyin low. Makin hay.


Entered at Sat Mar 11 19:04:37 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Heavy Weather

Joe Jennings are you OK boy? I'm just watching you get a real shit kicking out there.

Hello Jerry! been hiding out I see.


Entered at Sat Mar 11 18:01:37 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Memory slip

Whoops! Yes, I did see "U.S." at the Aldwych Theatre that month but I got mixed up with "American Hurrah" which I also saw but at a different time and place. The latter was the Jean-Claude van Itallie play in which Jacques Levy was involved.

In fact, it was three one-act plays. One was called "Motel" and had car headlights blazing into the audience at one point and the cast wore big dolls' heads. Another involved a session with a psychologist, more interested in money than his client-patient. The third, I can't recall visually but, somewhere in the house, I have the "script", which was published in a Penguin paperback. I must dig that out some time.

"U.S." was a British play and I can recall Adrian Mitchell reading one of his poems in it. It was the one that had a chorus about "fill my eyes with silver and tell me lies about Viet-Nam" (or was it "ears" not eyes"?). He was a very forceful reader then and, decades later when I saw him in a small local venue in the north of England, he was just as powerful.

I think Ronnie Gilbert was in the cast of "America Hurrah". I'll have to see if I still have the programme (booklet).


Entered at Sat Mar 11 17:19:52 CET 2017 from (67.246.38.157)

Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs

Rolling Stone Magazine selected the top 25 musical performances of all time on Saturday Night Live. The Band received the 9th spot - - not surprising. Look what got the #1 slot. Oh my... Check it out..


Entered at Sat Mar 11 15:35:39 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: And finally...for the moment

On the west coast only a boat ride away from Victoria is an opportunity for those in La La Land and all points north to experience...

Magnus August Høiberg - Cashmere Cat

at the Showbox, Seattle, May 5, 2017

Unfortunately, I'll be on the other side of 'vastus Canadasus' on that day (more than a boat ride away) but I wanted to bring this to the attention of those who might be interested.


Entered at Sat Mar 11 15:27:01 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Other things considered

Since I'm already talking....

1. Catch Madeleine Peyreux if you can. She's on tour. We are to see her next week

2. BaRK. On tour. Then Stephen Fearing later in the spring with his new album

3. I was confident that Bill M would remember Emmit Rhodes. If I were a betting man, I would have... He's still out there



Entered at Sat Mar 11 14:39:31 CET 2017 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria often

Subject: Memories

Ian W: You brought me out of retirement from this site.

"Time it was, and what a time it was, it was

A time of innocence, A time of confidences

Long ago, it must be, I have a photograph

Preserve your memories; They're all that's left you"

Paul Simon


Entered at Sat Mar 11 10:44:52 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Alex Campbell and Sandy Denny

When I think of Alex Campbell and Sandy Denny, I think of pint beer mugs.

I booked Alex Campbell for the college folk club back in the mid-1960s (1964?). It was held in a venue well away from public transport, so we often arranged to pick featured singers up at the nearest station and to take them back there afterwards and they were always given their beer free. As we took him back to the station,he said that many club organisers expected him to make his own way to and fro and said how pleased he was to be treated so well - but was it the beer talking?

My earliest memory of Sandy Denny is at the Teddington Folk Club, quite near the Thames and not far from the TV studios where The Beatles did the "Thank Your Lucky Stars" programmes. I'd been to a cousin's wedding in Southampton earlier in the day and gone to Teddington that night. I saw Sandy wending her way through the crowd on the upstairs landing of a pub and she had a pint glass in one hand and her guitar in the other.

This was one of those memorable periods for me: Roland Kirk at the T.A. Centre the previous Saturday; Pink Floyd at the Roundhouse the following Saturday; and Bert Jansch and John Renbourne at the Hole in the Ground the Saturday after that!

And, eight days after that, a "FOLK & BLUES CONCERT" at St. Pancras Town Hall. Bert Jansch and Julie Felix were the headliners but Sandy Denny, John Renbourne, Alexis Korner, Tom Paley and Trevor Lucas also performed that night.

All these in a one-month period from 19 November to 18 December and I've missed out a few midweek "activities", too - Mike Westbrook's Sextet at Birbeck College and Jean-Claude Van Itallie's "U.S." at the Aldwych Theatre to name but two. The latter was partly put together by Jacques Levy, who worked with The Byrds and Dylan, of course.

Sorry to bang on about all this but the mention of the Alex Campbell/Sandy Denny album (which I also have) sparked off some memories and you get to a certain stage in your life when looking back comes to loom large.


Entered at Sat Mar 11 07:06:02 CET 2017 from (114.75.199.245)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I had occasion to listen to the Easy Rider soundtrack today for the first time in many years. The cover of The Weight by Smith is really good. I can see that they were trying to stick as close to the original as possible but I think it is the best cover I have heard.


Entered at Fri Mar 10 22:58:26 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Theme Shows and Peter F

Kev, i have to agree with you for the most part. We have friends who went to 30 or more Springsteen shows on The River Tour these past couple of years. Even though he did a great deal of other songs in addition to The River record each night, I still think it had to get old really fast. That being said a dream show back in the 70's and 80's would have been Dylan coming out and playing the folk albums in their entirety on an acoustic guitar. Whenever he reached back and did one of those songs acoustically it was always the highlight of the show for me. I would have also loved to see him do the entire Blood On The Tracks with the same type of band he used on the album.

By the way you mentioned Peter Frampton recently, he actually has a new song coming out today about saving a bird. Really nice guitar on it. Check out link.


Entered at Fri Mar 10 14:01:40 CET 2017 from (92.54.175.179)

Posted by:

Peter V

Alex Cambell- brown-yellow sleeve, bought it in Woolworths. Laden with classics. 10/6d instead of normal 32/6d. I still have that LP - I found the Sandy Denny one only a couple of years ago.


Entered at Fri Mar 10 11:51:16 CET 2017 from (86.171.129.218)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

I never knew about those earlier Sandy Denny related albums, Peter, though I did own an Alex Campbell Scottish folk songs album back in the day. Another Forever More moment. But that surely backs up the point I was making.

Haso, I like jazz influenced music too. I did go to John Martyn's Solid Air concert and thought it was brilliant, but he also had to deal with punters shouting for requests not on the album.

I would have liked to have seen the jazz influenced Steely Dan. Love their music. A great retirement project listening to their music.

Bassmanlee - I've never had the opportunity to see an album being recorded. I would have liked to experience this. Watching the programmes related to this on the TV, I wouldn't have the patience. I remember seeing Burt Baccharach make Cilla Black sing Anyone Who Had A Heart about twenty times. Hellish experience for her.


Entered at Fri Mar 10 09:56:34 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Knowing what's next (live)

Because I know I'm going to review, I check setlist.com to look at recent shows before I go. Few artists are rigid, though some are. So I generally know what's coming next, though love a surprise. But you know which artists do surprises and which artists never do. Doesn't bother me.


Entered at Fri Mar 10 09:52:39 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Live at Filmore East was the first Allman Bros album I heard. I vastly prefer Eat A Peach though … but that's about my sum of Allman Bros familiarity!


Entered at Fri Mar 10 09:49:31 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Whole album shows

Didn't tribute bands start this off?

I guess Smile by Brian Wilson was my first, then Paris 1919 by John Cale (two of my all time best shows too). I've seen Steeleye Span do it with Now We Are Six, and Emmylou Harris do it with Wrecking Ball. Asia did it with the first album. Some new folk artists will tour and play the whole of the latest album. Yes, it works if you love the album, and as Steeleye Span says, it is interesting to visit things you may never have done live and semi-forgotten. Emmylou had to deal with two arseholes in the audience on hers. Review from 2014 is linked … it includes Daniel Lanois. QUOTE FROM 2014 REVIEW:

The whole album concept caused a bit of a fuss in this one. A Judas! / Manchester Free Trade Hall moment, if you like. After Where Will I Be (for which Emmylou didn’t play guitar) she announced the concept. I thought everyone knew the concept, but I was wrong. After the fourth song, Neil Young’s Wrecking Ball, a man stood up and started shouting in the third or fourth row. I couldn’t hear what he was saying, but Emmylou could, and politely (calling him ‘sir’) said that this was billed as the Wrecking Ball Tour so yes, she would be going through the album in sequence, so the content should not come as a surprise to him, and if he would care to be patient, there would be some other songs later. She’s a total professional, and handled it with aplomb, but anyone is rattled by that kind of audience attack. She announced Going Back to Harlan next with a tribute to the McGarrigle sisters who wrote it, and declared that so many of her ten favourite writers, including Lanois, are Canadian. Beautiful song, beautifully taken. But when she started Deeper Well (her co-write with David Olney and Daniel Lanois) we were reminded that an arsehole is indeed an arsehole, because the protester and his companion, got up and pushed their way to the aisle and marched out. Yes, they didn’t choose the gap between songs, they waited till the middle to cause maximum hissy fit disturbance to audience and performers.

To a degree, the Brighton Festival Programme and the ticket is slightly to blame. I read the music press, I knew she was doing the Wrecking Ball tour, and Daniel Lanois was billed with her, which makes it pretty clear. However the programme does not title it The Wrecking Ball Tour (as it is titled everywhere else) and says “she mines 26 albums and four decades of singing and songwriting for this standout concert” So there is a possibility that someone who expected early 70s Nashville with a folky bent could be surprised to find that a performer had grown, developed and changed over a forty year period, though that is no excuse for standing up shouting in the middle of a concert, nor for making such a deliberately dramatic departure. I thought back to the days of Peter Grant. At a Led Zeppelin concert, such a display while they did a surprising (then) acoustic section would have been foolhardy. The audience response was to clap louder and demonstrate more enthusiasm to her to compensate. I got sore palms contributing.


Entered at Fri Mar 10 07:39:50 CET 2017 from (24.114.48.133)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I DETEST the thought and experience of seeing a band play an album in its entirety as the concert experience. A major part of the fun of seeing a live show is wondering just what is coming next.........the thrill of realizing that Jeff Beck or Rod Stewart or David Bowie or Bob Dylan ( pre-this horrific Sinatra same-song-every night rut he is trapped in ) is about to play something you had only dreamed he might IS such a rush......Knowing what's coming next is fine at home or on a plane - not live - not ever.


Entered at Fri Mar 10 05:14:05 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: wild honey

By Jesus, Jan; were that Glendale wasn't 3000 miles from New England. Thanks for the playbill. Look forward to reviews.

Any idea, Peter, on who 1st got this play-entire-album/nostalgia thing going? Seems like quite a trend. Doing that sort of stuff, over your way? Dunc? Wallsend (other than those TLW shows Garth & John Simon were up to)? As mentioned before here, maybe the last time I go to big-time r'n'r (getting kind of $$) was The Allman Bros doing all of Eat a Peach 3-4 years ago in Boston. They'd done all of Live at Fillmore East the night before. I know Phish used to sometimes play live all of someone else's record or concert as a one-time deal back in the 90's; especially around holidays. Pretty sure they honored the Band that way at least once; maybe RofA, not sure.

For you non-United Statians, Fillmore East is well worth your time to understand those genres a bit more. I know, that you've said such as the Allmans (perhaps the Dead too), never made much splash in Jolly old England. They would be more jazz oriented than our 5, in terms of improvisational; a good bit more geared to "live" performance.


Entered at Fri Mar 10 04:54:51 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

I'm glad everyone was pleased by that Colin Linden interview. I came across it by accident. I went to that site looking for an interview Rockburn had done with Bill "Spaceman" Lee, couldn't find it, then started watching one with Don Francks and noticed the Colin Linden one.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Music from Wild Honey

March 25, 2017, Glendale, CA: Garth and Sister Maud with a stellar cast doing all of MFBP and TB live!


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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: debuts

Dunc, I agree there exceptions to every rule. Not personally familiar with Ms. Denny's career arc, but my point was more that artists that were integral in previous projects, (like Mr. Mason) then "go solo", they bring along a lot of experience re recording techniques, studio use, production, arrangements, etc.

I've only been in one, maybe two studio sessions. It is much different than live performance. I did learn what a producer does. He or she urges you to put down the smokes, shut up and play and not waste precious studio time. And tells you when your approach is not working. Unfortunately in my limited experience we did not HAVE a producer, so the results were less than they should have been.

Yes, Bill, Emitt Rhodes was who I was thinking of. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: In praise of John McVie

I bought the remastered Bella Donna 3 CD set by Stevie Nicks yesterday … reviews praised the remastering, bonus tracks and a whole live show. She had a star band for the 1981 live show, with Russ Kunkel on drums and Bob Glaub on bass, Roy Bittan on piano, Benmont Tench on keyboards.

Try “Dreams” because the Live 1981 version shows how great John McVie and Mick Fleetwood were on the original. I played them back to back, and while the bass notes are the same, the 1981 really lacks that particular John McVie sound and his spring and bounce. It showed me how great John McvVie was at relatively simple bass lines. Also, while I admire Russ Kunkel hugely, Mick Fleetwood’s drum part has a SNAP! to it that Kunkel’s doesn’t.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Early Sandy!

I’m thinking hard here. I reckon the first Sandy Denny album would then be “Alex Campbell & Friends” (1967) on the somewhat dodgy Saga low budget label, and a record I own. If you’re looking for name credit, it’s “Sandy & Johnny” with Johnny Silvo, also Saga and 1967.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Can't agree with you Bassmanlee and Bill M. That means if you are picking a debut album for Sandy Denny, it has to be the Strawbs album, and not count her first appearance on the second Fairport album, where she raises the performance of this band strikingly, and then there is her solo work. Admittedly her work with Fotheringay is not at the same level. Loads of artists like that, guys.

I'm gunning for you Bill M today (in a friendly sort of way). Robbie Roberson is a great album with some great songs on it. Somewhere Down The Crazy river is arguably the biggest hit of any Band related song across here. And, help me here, Bill M, (I've googled, but can't find anything), I think the song won a Canadian award.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: RAM trucks

I'm not sure that was what Bob had in mind. We had an awefull add on TV here about some guy driving his 4WD through rivers and reserves while saying "these are my values". I think it was an American add. Thankfully it got pulled quite quickly.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Anderson East - Forever Young

Just heard a TV Advertisement for RAM trucks featuring Bob Dylan's "Forever Young".....ran to the iPad to look up who was singing......at first listen seems a staggeringly great version of the song by a guy named Anderson East. Do check it out.


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Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: Butter

Coulda been, Dunc. There's a great tune, sung by his bass player called "The Boxer" (not Simon & Garf's). Shoulda been a boxer baby, 'cause everything you do just knock's me out. Etc. It starts w/ a quick little spot, maybe 4 or 5 notes that were the from the theme music of an old-time sponsor of a TV boxing show. Maybe a shaving cream or something like that.


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Posted by:

Bill M

bassmanlee: You mean Emitt Rhodes?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Though it's arguable, Paul Simon's true debut is "The Paul Simon Songbook" before "Wednesday Morning 3 am" and without Artie. It was released in Europe though not in the USA till later.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: True debuts …

Catching up on an old Uncut, they suggest "One Step Beyond" by Madness as a true debut … zero previous. Fantastic


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: senior moment

Bob, not Rhett Miller of Old 57s. I don't have this guy's name right, and it escapes me at the moment. It was an album released in maybe the early 70's. Green cover, his face and an old weathered window. I think he played everything on it himself. As I recall, he sounded a bit like McCartney. Got a lot of exposure but only ever made one other album, maybe two. I would have to search the record room...


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Stills Collins

Apparently Stephen Stills & Judy Collins are touring together. They have a few dates set in the general NY area.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Rhett Miller

Lee, the first couple of Rhett Miller solo records were killer, weren't they? I especially love the song Fireflies he did with Rachel Yamagata on the 2nd one. Link to video. Even he's debut came after years of touring and recording with Old 97's. He's from Texas but actually lives in the Hudson Valley. Very easy going sociable guy.


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Posted by:

Bill M

bassmanlee: I agree, including when it comes to Robbie's first (not that it's my favourite of his anyway).


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Linden interview, Rockburn

Fred, thanks for that Colin Linden interview link. this Rockburn guy seems to get around a bit. Not that I recognize all the interviewees, being a non-Canadian, but I see Bruce Cockburn and others on there. Another rabbit hole to fall down! Just what I need!

A late comment on the debut album thread. Can your really say that the first solo album by someone who had extensive previous studio experience is a debut? Isn't Paul Simon's debut Wendsday Morning 3 AM with Artie? Eric Clapton had gobs of experience with Mayall, Cream and other before his first "solo" record. Similarly, Dave Mason's Alone Together is an excellent album, but he already had the Traffic sessions behind him. Santana, CTA, I think qualify as true killer coming-out-of-nowhere debuts, and I'm sure there are many others, some going on to greater heights and/or fame and some to obscurity. Rhett Miller?


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Posted by:

Albert

Thanks , Albert Wallis albertwall29922@gmail.com


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Posted by:

Bill M

haso: I can't speak for Peter V, of course, but in my case no - artistic licence.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Fred. really enjoyed the interview especially as Bill M says - the last ten minutes.

JQ. Really enjoy Local Hero too. Couldn't understand at the time why they chose two settings at other sides of the country, John D. I see the film as being part of a trilogy of films related to Scottish life at the time with Gregory's Girl and the not so popular as the other two, Comfort and Joy. Though I really liked it and am sure John D would identify with the DJ as the leading character.

Thanks, Haso. I wonder if it was the live double album I had.

Yesterday I went into the local record shop, which is slowly turning into a record shop before my eyes. Another album on sale for £200 - the first Wire album, new, in pristine condition, never played and seemingly rare.

I could have bought Robbie Robertson second hand on vinyl for £14, but I'm all CDs now. So at Two for a Tenner, I bought Okie by JJ Cale, which I previously owned on vinyl. I have a JJ Cale collection, but miss those early albums. And Our Bright Future by Tracy Chapman, who I like but don't know well.


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Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: coat rack

yes, Haso, I remember those racks - I believe they're still there.

I haven't contributed much here lately. belatedly i'd say we should have mentioned the debut album for los lobos, and their sophomore effort, as fine records. and i've been on a bowie binge: rediscovering young americans and station to station, as well as some later efforts like heathen and reality. no band connection that i'm aware of, but some great stuff scattered throughout his output.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

There used to be a two album best of compilation called 'Golden Butter' which was pretty good.


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Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: Dunc listening

Dunc: can't tell you for sure what that double Butterfield album was, but as I think I mentioned, you'd not go wrong w/ The Butterfield Blues Band Live, which was a dbl LP. I believe this was towards the end of his time at Elektra. Many moons ago, I had a greatest type LP called Golden Butter, but somebody stole it from the backside of a coatrack during college days (glenn t., remember those in Howard Student Center Concourse?). I bought a recent cd of the same type (The PBB, anthology, elektra years) just to hear "One More Heartache" again. I recall my older brother buying an LP, probably 1967 or 8, called In My Own Dream; don't recall the name of the song but one on there was an amazing ode to hard drinks and if Butter wasn't drunk singing it, he was masterful at imitation. Of course, as time proved out, the bottle did get him pretty early.

As for Jackson Browne, you'd not go wrong w/ Running on Empty. Although my music appreciation prof never cared for J. Browne (not enough going on w/ the rhythym section, not enough key or tempo changes), he can grow on you. David Lindley plays a wonderful electric dobro. I always wondered if Richard played more dobro than we likely ever heard; seems like they could have featured it a little more, as they did Levon's mandolin, on occasion.

You guys didn't really get any $ back in the prehistoric (pre-Norm) days, now didya. Kind of amazin' it's still trudging along, 40 years on from TLW, to be honest.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Fred: Wonderful interview with Colin Linden - thanks! Dunc, be sure to listen to the last 10 minutes, when Colin talks about how BaRK came to be and about getting ready for their Last Waltz tribute. I especially appreciated Colin likening Chuvalo to Danko.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Muzak in real life

Ragtime: In 1985 I was seated in a fancy Chinese restaurant in Jeddah and what should come out of the speakers but a syruppy rendition of "Aqualung".


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Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: The Band Guestbook, my entry, 1999

Subject: A most devastating experience

Today I walked through the "Passage", which is a shopping arcade in The Hague, dating from the early 1900s.

They were playing muzak. I hate muzak. Well, you all do, of course. I am even a militant member of a Dutch anti-muzak society fighting for a muzak-free environment.

Anyway: I had to be there, this morning. Couldn't avoid it. Normally I try not to hear what the loudspeakers are doing to me. This time I was struck by a whiny tune that sounded vaguely familiar.

What was it? I tried and tried to pin down what it was...

And then... suddenly I recognized the tune...

Oh no! It happened to be a slow & slimy arrangement of "Chest Fever"!

I had to play the real thing all day to expell this painful experience out of my head. Now I'm wondering how on earth one of the most intense and dramatic Band songs could be turned into something absolutely horrible.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

I had the TV on in the background while on the phone & tending to matters looking at the computer, either this morning or yesterday morning when The Weight came on the TV set. I think it started in the "Gonna catch a cannonball" verse. I hadda look, the show was reruns of a series named SuperNatural.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you, Fred. I really enjoyed that interview with Colin Linden.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Local Hero

Interviewed Peter Riegert; from Local Hero shortly after it came out. We talked about the magic of editing. The little town he stayed in and the beach scenes were shot hundreds of miles away; from each other. They couldn't find a town and beach like that together. I told him at the time, I wish he hadn't told me that. Ah but the magic of flawless editing. I love that movie to this day. And the soundtrack.....


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Local Hero

Dunc - Your comments about Scotland and dancing made me think of this movie - so we watched it last night and it remains top notch! Some of dated aspects have almost come full circle: greedy oil men and Ruskies! And a great soundtrack and subtle humor that works completely. I'd like to get up into that area someday; I've never been north of Edinburgh.


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Did some mention BaRK?

A Colin Linden interview I came across.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dance To The Music

Scottish country dancing was popular in the South … now I recall, my mum used to do it too. The English folk revival seems to have replaced it. When various folk groups play theatres, it's become common to invite several Morris Dancing groups along to perform in the lobby … the Demon Barbers always do it. So there must be six or seven local Morris Dancing groups just in East Dorset … again, I never saw it in my youth, but you did see Scottish and Irish dance troupes. It's a bit like "new" English folk, beginning to make a separate mark. The Unthanks, from the North-East, always feature clog dancing on stage too … a Northern English speciality.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks everybody. There are some really great Scottish dance bands and Scottish country dancing is very important to a lot of people. I thought the Pinball Wizard parody was brilliant. Every so often there is a boom in Ceilidh dancing. I was surprised when I read in your book, Peter, that you took part in country dancing in your neck of the woods back in the day.

Ian. You're correct in that people heard good songs and tunes through the Scottish shows. The New Year holiday went on for about 4 days and was very family and friends oriented. Everywhere was closed. Christmas is now the main holiday.

Still enjoying BARK, Bill M.

That explains it Bob F. I prefer the Kris version to Janis.

I think Solid Air is brilliant, Roger.

Robin Hall and Jimmy McGregor were a really good folk act. Jimmy McGregor, in his eighties, is still on the radio from time to time.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: American Gothic

American Gothic is leaning against the bookshelves, in a little stack of recent secondhand LP finds that I haven't had time to play. I picked up a very clean copy a couple of weeks ago. Heard it years back, but I don't remember it very well.

Road to Cairo was Julie Driscoll with Brian Auger & The Trinity's follow up to This Wheel's On Fire, and as with This Wheel's On Fire, I reckon Julie did the ultimate version.


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham

Subject: The Missing American Gothic

Bill - Montana is a beautiful song - but Down River is a unique piece of acting within a song. The phrasing , the dialogue are exceptional. I've been listening to the first album non-stop for two weeks and I'll switch to American Gothic - which I think is better overall - but Road To Cairo and Down River are standouts.

Bob - The Missing - second series had more scope than the first and we watched it eagerly - but prefer the first. Have you wa'tched Happy Valley? Both series - world class. Same for 'No Offence'.


Entered at Tue Mar 7 04:07:23 CET 2017 from (24.114.56.122)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: Been meaning to get back to you re BaRK. Yes, their first was influential in the sense that it got Willie P Bennett recording on his own again (instead of just playing in Fred Eaglesmith's band - not that there's anything wrong with that). And Willie P won a Juno for his wonderful comeback CD. And the three guys who thought they were doing a one-off tribute project saw the light and decided to become a formal trio. They're currently on a cross-Canada tour - Massey Hall 10 days ago, Saskatoon coming up (a friend there tells me). I hope they do the decent thing and play Scotland someday.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: I'm Not From Here

I'm not from here

But people tell me it's not like it used to be

They say I should've been here back about ten years

Before it got ruined by folks like me

James McMurty


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Posted by:

Bill M

Seeing Al's heroic post reminded me of those wonderful early days at the GB when Jan would pay us by the word. Peter V and I would post 15 or even twenty times in a day -enough for pin money, but not a living wage. But Al had to go for more more more, and Jan had to move to a different model. Ah, nostalgia.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Note to self……..whenever Al Edge has been away too long….do toss in one of the following asides in a post…..”Mrs. Klopp wears army boots”…….”Luis Suárez’s 4 goal game vs Norwich City never happened – it was fake news"


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Al, certainly as you gallantly presented, context is required. The first wheel actually was more staggering than the first wheel used on a car or airplane.

Speaking of Amanda, I spent part of yesterday afternoon at a show with Kay & several other long time friends. Some going back over thirty years. (Remember Kay, who is a close friend of all Band members going all the way back to the Big Pink days?). Amanda planned to join us, but a family thing popped up.



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Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Defending the realm - that's the Big Pink realm

Kev - sorry mate - but you're talking absolute bollocks.

:-0)

And I'll proceed to tell you why with a little piece I prepared earlier - about a dozen or so years earlier that is!!!

:-0.

Incidentally within the said piece please for Amanda read Kevin

THE BAND'S BEST

Really nice of Amanda to take on board the point I was attempting to make regarding the significance of Music From Big Pink to many of us older Band fans. I have to say I found it really quite gratifying that she had gone to the trouble of actually trying to listen to the album through the ears of one of us 'arl arses', as it were. It’s a rarer thing than ever these days, such old age empathy. So many thanks Amanda.

If we go back to the time of the original discussions on this topic, my more magnanimous side had put forward a view little of which could, I feel, be construed as contentious. It was along the lines that since The Band so clearly represented different things to different sections of the group's following – in many cases this being consistent with the point of exposure of the respective individual to whichever album, album collection or particular incarnation of the group they had first experienced – the way in which Big Pink itself was rated would often correspond to such patterns. In such light it was therefore scarcely surprising – although nonetheless still very much personally disheartening – to witness the relatively lowly rating of Big Pink amongst so many on this GB – particularly, it would appear, amongst those of more recent persuasion.

My more bullish and contentious side now ventures to expand upon the slant that Amanda touched on – that is, how and why Big Pink came to represent something of a watershed to many of us – including old Slowhand Clapped Out himself - who were exposed to it for the first time back in 1968; why and how it has come to carry such significance to us.

In fact, let us go even further and for the sake of argument take it to a rather more extreme conclusion. What if we now put it to fellow GB'ers that anyone who finds they are unable to rank Big Pink alongside The Brown album at the very pinnacle of The Band's recorded musical achievements are very possibly failing to see the entire picture as lucidly as they perhaps should? That certainly – in so far as history must surely end up judging our heroes – such a contention actually goes to the very core of what The Band represents.

Okay, so I realise feathers can easily get ruffled with such candid assertions as this. Let's see then if we can try and follow this one through right from the start, beginning with a slightly broader perspective on how we formulate judgements on these sort of things.

Let's take somebody who has just latched onto a particular artist. Any artist of significance. They naturally rate this artist highly and are genuinely earnest about acquiring a completely balanced perspective on this artist. In such an instance which would constitute the most reliable way for them to become acquainted with the catalogue of that artist? Would it not be to do so as chronologically as possible? Clearly, not always the easiest way - nor the most affordable. However, in order to formulate a truly objective appreciation of a particular artist's development, both in its own right and in relation to its peers, surely the best way? In other words, you can certainly have your favourite snatches of any artist but unless you have viewed everything through the appropriate objective lens then such favouritism remains merely that.

I'll venture a personal experience where I perceive relying on mere favouritism can tend to obscure such judgement.

I have spent many an hour on various websites defending the magnificence of the Beatles first album, 'Please Please Me'. What I have tended to find is that many of the Beatles more recent fan base are invariably only too eager to dismiss the – shall we call them in hindsight – rather naive and simplistic qualities of that first album. They compare it with the sophisticated intricacies and resonances of subsequent Beatles offerings, such as Revolver, The White Album, Abbey Road or any late sixties/early seventies Rolling Stones classic album and declare poor old PPM a non-starter by comparison.

In doing so they are – in my opinion – overlooking what simply has to be a crucial part of any such judgement. That is the comparison with what else was on offer at the relevant time.

In the Beatles case this is straightforward enough to demonstrate, of course – or at least it is for those of us who happened to be around at the time. We take it as read the pivotal importance PPM occupies in rock history. Before it, for example, no other popular artist had self-penned so many songs purely for an album. Further no other popular artist had so successfully merged pure pop with R&B and R&R. The fact is that at the relevant time – namely 1963 – PPM was simply staggering in its consistent quality. It was, comfortably, the best pop/rock album up to that point in time. The best, in fact, until The Beatles next album – 'With The Beatles'. Indeed, as a little 'test the water' gauge on this, one needs only look at arguably the joint weakest track on that second album. The track "I Wanna Be Your Man" was given to The Rolling Stones by John and Paul and became the Stones’ – up to then – most successful song. It also convinced Mick and Keef that they could try their hand at songwriting. A prompting of some significance I'm sure most would agree.

Thus, in the case of The Beatles, it would be extremely flawed reasoning to form a judgement on PPM – or its follow up – without placing such judgement in its historical context. Also without taking cognizance of all the ensuing limitations of what at that time the Beatles' peers were creating or, indeed, what it was humanly possible for any contemporaneous popular music artist to create.

Moving onto the case of The Band, we find things are significantly different.

The Band's creative arc never mirrored that of The Beatles. True, their musical development did not begin an awful lot later than The Beatles – possibly only a matter of a few years or so at most. The crucial difference was that by the time The Band formally released their first recorded offering in 1968, namely Music From Big Pink, they were already comfortably the finished article, possibly as tight and accomplished as it was possible for any combo to be. What's more, they were able to dip selectively into the full repertoire of rock music's, by then, already formidable legacy and marinate it with their own vast range of contemporary and traditional musical influences. By so doing they created a sound that, whilst in itself no more unique than that of The Beatles, carried a maturity that was entirely unique.

A major part of that maturity evolved from an instinctive democracy that seemed to permeate every pore of that first album. Each tiny part of Big Pink appeared to exist simply to serve the whole. It was as if each vocal, each harmony, each instrument – in fact each and every contribution – was teetering on some invisible tightrope between dominance and subservience; competing frantically for every available space yet never less than complementary or utterly accommodating to the other.

Meanwhile, the products of these precarious balancing acts [the ensuing finished album tracks] – no matter how memorable and distinctive they happened to have been – were, in effect, always going to be there as merely a part of an integral whole. It meant Big Pink was not simply a collection of outstanding yet ultimately disparate songs. Rather, like the group who'd created it, the album was a genuine entity where everything fused together seamlessly to create a whole that was simply magical.

The instinctive ‘metaphorical’ jettisoning from this entity of This Wheel's on Fire and I Shall Be Released by some fans – myself included – was to come later. As it stood at the time of its inauguration, it was to be little wonder that The Band's contempories had never before heard such a sound, let alone that they were never able to approach the mark it set.

Nor was such unmatched accomplishment the only quality that distinguished Big Pink from anything else around.

Possibly even more distinctive and defining was its inherent authenticity. The sound conveyed everything about where it was from. The singers and performers on Big Pink sang of their everyday life; the everyday trials and tribulations of the community they were so clearly an integral part of. Crucially their words and sentiments were not mere posturing. In contrast to the vast majority of their white contempories with their – by comparison – sometimes limp offerings, these fellows were the real deal. True representatives of their own bretheren.

This wasn't Joe Cocker asking you to lend your ears for him to sing you a song or Eric Clapton waiting for some mystical love to shine in. It wasn't even John Lennon dissecting the pitfalls and/or merits of a revolution. Rather these were ordinary Joes, country cousins and kinfolk singing from all corners of their front parlour – often at the same time – in some deliciously raw and previously unheard yet unmistakable harmony of the rural American community they had emanated from. The music they were making was simply an extension of that community. Earthy yet heavenly; bleak yet uplifting; stark yet comforting.

Significantly, too, they were also inviting you, their audience, to become a part of what that music – their music – was offering. Its joys and heartaches; its mundanity and its mystery; its suffering and its healing. Even if it were only for the magical interludes when you were listening to them extolling it, then it was still more than enough for it to sink its teeth into your psyche and draw you right in to its very heart.

"Come let me show you how...to milk a cow" was no idle aside. Rather this was a fully blown invitation for you to get those city hands of yours carressing those cow's teats for all they were worth.

Forget anyone else, this was the nearest to complete Soul - and, for that matter Blues and Gospel – that any white artists had ever got; have ever got. The community they extolled was opening up before your very ears – and eyes. Imprisoned in some inner city bedroom you simply couldn't ask for more from a piece of long playing plastic than for it to transport you heart and soul into the backwoods and homesteads of rural America.

Big Pink – and its successor The Band – were a reflection of an artistic entity at the very zenith of its individual and collective power and sensibility. They were performing and singing about – and within – an environment in which they had become steeped; about which they were genuinely passionate.

And it showed.

In every note, in every chord, in every pause came evidence of that conviction. It may not have been the easiest listening music in which you'd ever attempted to immerse yourself. It may not have contained a solitary moment of what we might term pure pop or rock. However, once you had allowed its rhythms and pulses, its front parlour harmonies and sentiments, its craftsmanship and sheer mastery of the idiom to invade your own sensibilities then you could not help but become convinced that you were in the presence of some unique musical entity wherein the sum of the constituent parts amounted to far more than seemed at all humanly possible.

Hardly surprising then the attachment grew stronger with each play. And there were hundreds and hundreds of those playings. One after the other as the album's ambience entered your every orifice. And lingered for all time.

You'd find yourself reading the words of the back cover over and over again searching for some hidden clues as to what these fellows were about, which bit of the respective songs each of them was singing, where they had come from, where they were going. Frustratingly, you'd find little to quench your thirst. All you had to go on was the music and vocals spitting out from what seemed like different parts of that little mono record player before you. There was a complete absence of fuss or hype. It left you craving for the merest snippet. Your intrigue at the stark simplicity of their collective name would soon cede to a glaring realisation. What else, after all, could these guys possibly have been called?

Then there was the utter appropriateness of their own names – Danko, Manuel, Garth, Jaime and Levon. 'Levon' for Chrissakes!! You just couldn't make this sort of stuff up, so authentic did it all sound. And then the few brief sentiments uttered by the guy on guitar, Jaime 'Robbie' Robertson, about them enjoying it all 'just enough to smile at one another when we're playing'. It was like some snatched insight into the mental rigeurs of a bunch of musical geniuses. What else would they do, you'd reflect knowingly, smiling to yourself at the logic of it all. Not only was all this utterly convincing. For those to whom such things mattered – and as you might expect with these sort of things that was regrettably a minority – it was intoxicating, enchanting. In short it became vital.

Meantime, the downside was there as well, of course. Invisible, undetectable yet nevertheless looming all the time in the background.

Not surprisingly, The Band as a collective power could never surpass such an epiphany; such bona fide genius. With Big Pink and its bedfellow The Band they had succeeded in establishing a ceiling that nobody before nor since has got near.

Their achievements had soared beyond merely the sound their music had created. Somehow, the sincerity and sheer downhomeness of their songs and performances on those albums had married together to create an aura of ordinary folk community, rustic life and American history that had resulted in something unique. An art form within an art form as it were. What's more, they had taken it as far as it could go. In the process they had set a mark that was to become unattainable not only for others but also for themselves. Thereafter, inevitably, they, their music and that art form waned. As unerringly as an arrow falling from the apex of its arc, they – and we – were all destined to head towards planet earth.

As they and, hence, their music grew away from the very togetherness and lifestyle that had helped forge it; that had created and sustained it. Inevitably, inexorably it was to lose its substance. The integrity and purity of Big Pink and The Band – those albums' very essence – had been but a tangible manifestation of what was a living breathing entity.

Now the inherent pressures and trappings of fame meant The Band were struggling to hold that together.

Sure, their subsequent offerings were still of the very highest order. Fact was even at their lamest these fellows were peerless musicians and vocalists. Many individual tracks were remarkable. There still came moments of exquisite beauty. Stagefright, their third album contained a string of magical songs and performances that were a testimony to artists of such stature. Rock of Ages was ludicrously accomplished and unleashed My Brother Jake for fucks sake. Moondog Matinee was a nostalgic delight. Northern Lights, meanwhile, presented luscious textures that just soothed the soul.

The difference was in the tales these subsequent albums told; in the windows they opened.

No longer did those tales carry that indefinable authenticity of Big Pink and The Band. No longer did those windows open up to reveal a consistent cinematic landscape. What had once somehow sucked you into its tapestry until you had felt an integral part of it, now merely enthralled you with its isolated layers of brilliance.

That validity which had singled those masterpieces out; that had set them apart was – understandably – gone. Those very ingredients that had made Big Pink and The Band such complete entities, once so available, were now proving more than elusive even for these multi-talented folk.

The sobering fact was no longer did the new material speak for an entire breed of people. Rather it spoke just for the singers and performers and – while that made perfect sense for someone in their position and could still sound at times like heaven – it was simply no longer enough to sustain the aura. The Band's first two creations had made them immortal. Now, manifestly, they were showing they were not. Remorselessly, life was calling in its dues.

A sense of duty is an instinctive thing. Mostly we display it in respect of family and those closest to us. The need to protect them and defend them. To be responsible for them. It is part of the bond.

To feel something akin to that for what is merely a rock album is most probably a preposterous notion. Nonetheless, that I feel such a bond for 'Music From Big Pink' is quite evident from what I find I've written here. This is not least in response to what I have perceived since first discovering this site as a tendency of some to relegate the importance of Big Pink. The intensity of my sentiments may or may not be shared by others. And in the overall scheme of things that, frankly, matters not. What does matter, as far as I'm concerned, is that what I see as the unique majesty of Music From Big Pink has now been represented in a manner which I hope has done it some form of the justice I believe it merits.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Roger: I've tried the first David Ackles a couple times over the years, but for me it always paled in comparison to his "American Gothic", especially "Montana Song" (which Zappa would parody in "Moving To Montana" - or at least that's my theory).

Peter V etc.: My only New Years eve in the UK was spent in the village of Cartmel in Cumbria - England, but only just. After hours of drinking, everybody from every one of the surprisingly numerous pubs around the town square emptied into the square to shout and mingle. I don't recall there being organised music - just ragged attempts at "Auld Lang Syne".


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Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Jesse Winchester

The Jesse Winchester was a great debut. Not sure if that was already mentioned.

Roger, I think we had a conversation a couple years back about The Missing. Did you see 2nd season? So good.


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Truly awful Dunc...

Thanks a bunch Dunc. So easy to parody that sort of new Years Eve music! Wow so Solid Air was the 6th album.

Kris Kristofferson - I first heard him as the eponymous player in Cisco Pike. What a film - Gene Hackman, Kris K., Karen Black and Harry Dean Stanton. I bought my first Kristofferson album after seeing this and swiftly followed with two more. Great debut album, whatever the title. I keep thinking of others - Tim Hardin anyone? Great debut album with too little to follow - like David Ackles.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Scottish Country Dancing

When I was teaching English, we had our theatre shows every Wednesday, but we had Scottish Country Dancing every fourth Friday. You got paid for "supervising" the evening so I sometimes did it. A local Caledonian Society group came in with bagpipes and accordions. The Swiss and Germans in particular loved it. Dunno why it was "country" dancing rather than urban. I mainly slunk at the sides hoping not to be pulled into a demonstration. As I fictionalised in a novel of the era, one of the the society's leaders was Welsh (but very fond of dancing) and one member was a Jamaican guy with a Scottish wife. He wore the full kilt regalia too. It was always fun.

One of those points about the novel "One Day" that was so true is that at every wedding in England, there's at least one guy in a kilt, and he always turns out to be English. it's odd, but really does happen so often.


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Posted by:

Peter V

If you were in a band in England, you would expect to be playing New Year at a dance, but I don't recall any street assemblies in Bournemouth or Poole town centres at all (now huge, with bands and fireworks). I don't recall it being a family celebration either … more a "youth club dance" event but there were also as Ian says, more formal dinner and dances. But January 1st wasn't a holiday in England either until 1973 … though heavy absenteeism was given as a reason for making it one.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Peter, the debut record was a great topic to bring up. I think we've all been thinking about and listening to records we haven't heard in a long time.

Another really influential debut was Bette Middler's The Devine Miss M. That record busted some doors wide open. Still sounds great.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Chasing it down … yes, it was originally issued as Kristofferson in the UK, but changed very quickly here to Me & Bobby McGee. I reckon UK versions with the original title and sleeve will be rare.


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Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Scottish Wedding Dance Bands etc

The last wedding I attended in Scotland (a few miles outside Aberdeen) had several attenders from Europe (Germany and Finland come to mind)and the Gay Gordons was a dance just about everyone could do - you just need a sense of rhythm really./n Many, many years ago, circumstance brought me to the Seamill Hydro, on the Ayrshire coast, one Saturday night. There was a dance on and, after a meal, I well remember dancing the Gay Gordons to "Lily The Pink"! Not a pretty sight, I'm sure, but lots of fun.

And, down in deepest London, the New Year was celebrated in my youth. My father's "works", as we used to call it, had a dinner-dance most New Years, as I recall. And I've spent the evening of the 31st ("Hogmanay" in Scotland) in Trafalgar Square amongst the masses, taking the tube (a very crowded and fun-filled journey with lots of singing and joking) back to a party that had only really got going at midnight, so we'd missed very little. And it went on well into the early hours (or after dawn, in at least one case). The big difference I found when I moved to Scotland is that it was more of a family event and, whereas it was that night and the following day in England, you could find yourself getting friends dropping in for a drink some days later.

Also, the practice of "first footing" (a lump of coal or something dark brought across the threshold of the house) I first came across in England, when visiting friends whose families originated in the North-East of England.

And those TV programmes mentioned may have been a bit too "Walter Scottish" perhaps but they introduced me to some fine old Scots tunes and ballads, for which I am truly grateful.

And so many of those Scottish Dance Bands were so very versatile. Remember "Local Hero".

A final tale. We were overnighting in a hotel in Annan once and who should be on that night but the Alexander Brothers; I really can't describe them briefly but I'd guess that they would go down well with ex-pats or those abroad of Scottish descent. The hotel staff said just go in, so we did but had two separate seats. At one point, they started to sing "I Belong To Glasgow", at which point I looked across at my wife, who is from Glasgow, and nodded at her. They saw me do it but misunderstood and brought the microphone to me. A southern accent was NOT what they had in mind.


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Posted by:

Bob F

It was originally called Kristofferson and then reissued as Me & Bobby McGee to take advantage of the Janis hit version of that song.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I don't remember seeing the earlier one titled "Kristofferson" either (though the CD now is). Maybe it was originally called "Me & Bobby McGee" in the UK.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

It was the Me and Bobby McGee version I bought and I'm pretty sure that would be 1971. I thought that was it being issued for the first time and that's what Bob F meant.

The Scottish dances are still an important part of the culture here at weddings etc. And there are brilliant dance bands. But in the past, I used to suffer from the Jimmy hat, shortbread tin, Hielan' hame, Moira Anderson blues. Like Saint Andrew obviously.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Wonderful. What's next? Jimmy Shand doing Bohemian Rhapsody? As the British know, in our youth New Year was celebrated in Scotland but barely celebrated in England. I suspect we started celebrating New Year down south mainly because we knew if we stayed home the only thing on TV would be Andy Stewart, Kenneth McKellar and Jimmy Shand. The rest of the year we had the White Heather Club, though looking back Robin Hall and Jimmy McGregor were standing well above the crowd in choice of material and quality. I've been picking up early Collector and Topic discs by the likes of Dominic Behan, and Robin Hall plays guitar on all of them.

For those who don't know, the link takes you to Jimmy Shand playing The Gay Gordons for a group of seniors. Even this far south, the Gay Gordons was danced at every black tie dinner and dance in the 1950s and early 1960s. And if you played in any wedding band, you'd have to know a tune it could be danced too. It was like Hava Nagila - you might have to play it. Long gone.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: And Now For Something Completely Different

This will give Roger, Peter and Al a good laugh. Here's a version of Pinball Wizard - Dark Side of the Haggis - by Saint Andrew, a very clever guy, taking the piss out of the Scottish music that used to appear on the New Year Show, when they were much younger. I hope those in other areas of the world enjoy it too.

Or appeared in the Tartan tours of USA, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, back in the day.

Absolutely brilliant and a great laugh.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Kris Kristofferson album fascinated me too, as it's one I'd never have thought of … originally (and on CD) "Kristofferson" but reissued as "Me & Bobby McGee." It's huge, but also it compares to Carole King's "Writer" in that while it's a debut album as a singer, some key tracks had done well for other people before. But it really does sum up a major style as a debut.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Interesting posts on the debut albums. There's quite a bit of music I missed, but I wasn't going out and buying punk, although I have a few of the artists mentioned in collections.

I had a double Butterfield Blues Band back in the day, but can't remember its name. I play collections of Joe Jackson and Tom Petty. I know some of Jackson Browne's music, and feel I should own some.

I'm with Bob F on Kris Kristofferson - absolutely brilliant songs and still sounding fresh. And I liked Laura Nyro, a friend back in the day had one of her albums, but have never heard any of her material for a long time.

R Dean Taylor is really interesting. 'There's A Ghost In My House', which I've linked, is at number 20 in the Northern Soul top 500, and still played regularly at their get togethers. And these guys and gals are fanatical music and dance fans.

Bill M. I bought the Gary Clark solo album after Danny Wilson, and really like it. It didn't sell and he now makes a living writing songs for other artists.

Roger, Solid Air was John Martyn's sixth album. There were two early folk albums, two with his wife and Bless The Weather before Solid Air. But Solid Air was the first album I bought too. John Martyn has a fanatical following too and is revered by his followers.

You make an interesting point, which I think is forgotten about. (Sound like a teacher here!). We never owned every thing we listened to. We swapped albums with our mates or listened to their music in their houses.

Maybe another list would be artists' important breakthrough albums.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Effing auto typing. CONTEST was CONTRAST and WHY was WHAT.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sturgill Simpson

I'm going to disagree on "A Sailor's Guide to Earth" - to me the best album I've heard in months. I'm coming at this as someone who had never heard Sturgill Simpson before so had no expectations. It's got this HUGE sound. Take Welcome to Earth which starts off pomp operatic with piano and strings … full voice like Raoul Malo, then the band kicks in with the DAP KINGS horn section … a fantastic switch. Then total contest to languid strings and acoustic guitar for Breaker's Roar. Keep It Between The Lines is so funky. Then Sea Stories would have worked for country … or indeed for The Band. In Bloom is just a gorgeous song. Yes, it's a big, big production and the moods and styles change. Take Brace for Impact with loud bass, heavy guitar sound trudging away. All Around You … those horns! That choppy guitar. The suddenly intimate voice. Oh, Sarah is probably my favourite track. Call to Arms is where I came in because it was on a magazine cover disc last year, and it's why made me buy the album, though a straight swampy rocker is atypical. It's an exceptional album.

I realise reading opinions that it may break from the previous albums, both of which I ordered last night. If you knew and loved the earlier one, it may be a shock … but if (like many) this is where you start, it is astonishingly good.

Suffice it to say I played it in the car for a friend really loud, and we had to divert to the nearest HMV so he could buy one.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Ben: Not one of Robert Palmer's finest works - to put it mildly. He slagged NLSC - even belittling the lyrics to the great "It Makes No Difference". The only thing he liked was "Acadian Driftwood".

Bob F........you're welcome. I just love Metamodern Sounds of Country Music - from beginning to end and remain upset by the big label taking some good songs on the Sailor LP and screwing them up with unnecessary production........and thank you for bringing back great memories of Tom Petty's debut.....a Christmas gift it was from my brother and still remember vividly playing it and loving it. "American Girl" was and still is a perfect rock n roll song.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: poster/review

That promo poster circa 75 I looked at with lust in my eyes can now be bought on Ebay for around 250.00 bucks. Photos from the beach sessions. Capital had them out on most of their acts.

Does anyone remember the original Rolling Stone Review for NLSC?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Trawna

Joe J: R Dean Taylor - not just any Torontonian, but a Yonge Street fixture in the early '60s. He did three local 45s before moving to Motown, the first, "At The Highschool Dance" from '61 has long been cherished by European rockabilly collectors. I love it too, especially for the Levonesque speed-drumming by Jack Posluns. Did your historical searches turn up the factoids that as Motown's house Canuck A&R guy he was assigned to work with the Mynah Birds (Rick James, Neil Young, et al) and Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers (with Tommy Chong)? Some of the songs the Mynah Birds recorded were ones he co-wrote. I didn't know about "Turned To Stone" though - so thanks for that Band link. Our guys would surely have known him back in TO.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I only have the latest Sturgill Simpson. Looked for the earlier ones in HMV on Saturday and he's filed under "Country" and they didn't have them. Chuck Berry was under "Easy Listening" so all it says is HMV knows nothing.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: R Dean Taylor

Heard 'Gotta See Jane' on a oldies station and I had to google R Dean when I got home. All kinds of interesting things I didn't know: He was Canadian; he was a singer/songwriter for Motown/Rare Earth; Band connection - he co-wrote 'Turn To Stone' which Rick covered on 'Cryin Heart Blues'.

R Dean was all over the jukebox and AM radio when I was in school, 'Indiana Wants Me', 'Taos, New Mexico', 'Candy Apple Red'.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Blowin Your Mind was not acknowledged as a Van album by Van. It existed but apparently annoyed him.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Van Morrison / Roger

I've noticed Roger you list Astral Weeks as Van's first solo album. In the articles I have been reading they list it as his second solo album. "Blowin' Your Mind" is listed as the first one. You know I don't think it really matters when it comes to firsts; because the first Bob Dylan Album I ever purchased or heard; was his 4th album, Another Side Of Bob Dylan. That sent me back to his first three.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Sturgill Simpson

Kev, thanks for the Sturgill Simpson tip. I think the last time he was mentioned on the GB, I listened to couple of things on youtube and didn't really feel it. The nice thing about Amazon Prime membership is you get free shipping, great television streaming plus lately I've been taking advantage of their free music streaming. All three Simpson records are there. The earlier ones are obviously influenced by Waylon and Merle. The last one A Sailors Guide To Earth is the big label release. I think it has more of a Springsteen 80's influence. I hear songs that remind me of Spare Parts, This Hard Land, Seeds and Part Man Part Monkey. He has some great lyrics like "But I swear that God is there every time I glare in the eyes of my best friend". I purchased the last two so I can have on my itunes. Thanks again for the tip.

Check out the song Stephen Colbert and Sturgill Simpson wrote for the Waffle House.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Good one, Norm!


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Famous Ridles

They are both "Fuckin' near water!"


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Debut Albums

I've been listening obsessively to David Ackles for two weeks. Spurred me to think of debut albums though I'm hazy as to the rules of the list. All these were either bought buy me at the time or by friends (we operated a record sharing collective). I'm surprised how old they all are - I guess I've stopped being an early adopter and am either stuck in a rut or need time to acquire new tastes.:

1. David Ackles

2. Please Please Me - The Beatles

3. Peter, Paul and Mary

4.The Songs of Leonard Cohen

5. Bob Dylan

6. Five Leaves Left - Nick Drake

7. After The Goldrush - Neil Young

8. Music From Big Pink - The Band

8. Do You Believe in Magic - The Lovin' Spoonful

9. Astral Weeks - Van Morrison

10. Paul Simon

Of course there are loads of debut albums I've bought retrospectively. I bought first Stones album years after it had been issued. Rolling Stones No 2 was my first Stones album (and still the best). Oh Dunc - I forgot Solid Air - but was that a debut? Don't think so but it's the only John Martyn I've got. The there's the Incredibles...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Sorry, posted the link in the wrong box! Right above.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBGCtNonvbI

Jan's link to making love in a canoe brought up another video I hadn't seen … Levon + Sheryl Crowe, James Taylor, Emmylou Harris, Jakob Dylan and Steve Winwood performing The Weight (linked).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Silver bands

Looked it up. "Silver" (silver-plated) instruments used to be more expensive than brass, though not much so any longer. A "silver band" used to be seen as more successful. Wiki says that while there are some silver bands in the north, and some brass bands in the south, there is a tendency for silver bands to be southern and brass bands to be northern. This figures with my memories of silver bands marching up and down football pitches in Bournemouth and Southampton.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Why is drinking American beer like making love in a canoe?


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Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Silver bands

As far as I know it was just the colour of the metal - our local band was silver, not brass.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

31 years ago since Richard left us -- photo collage linked. Also, check the site updates for some "new" stuff, including an upcoming concert with Garth Hudson and top notch players performing the Band's debut and second albums. Going to a church tonight myself, to see Cashy Cat perform music from HIS debut album here in Oslo, Norway.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Brass band versus Silver band

PV - Are there any differences over there aside from from the type of instruments used, like in attitude, repitoire, type or size of their town, etc? I don't even know why both types are manufactured - cost?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

Peter V: The big club (as opposed to teen) bands in Toronto in the early '60s had horns - the Motley Crew and the Zaniacs had both sax and trumpet, Hawkins and the Hawks had Garth and Jerry plus, for a while, a third sax and a trumpet. It was an R&B town, so plenty of teen bands had saxophones too, and some, like the Disciples and the Power and the Mission had trumpets too. David Clayton Thomas, just before he left town for BST, was involved in producing the Power. While there were lots of jazz brass players around, I thing that a lot of the trombonist in the post-BST/CTA bands were straight out of highschool bands.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Good bands tend to get better on second albums … brown album, Déjà vu, Chicago II, BST II etc. The question is that debut. Very few are the “first of a kind” without some John The Baptist album by someone else. But both Please Please Me and MFBP qualify as “new.”

CTA, BST et al make me wonder where all those horn players came from. In the UK, soul bands had been horn heavy since 1965 or 1966, but I can’t think of so many white soul bands in the USA. I guess more jazz … and the marching Bands tradition taught the basics. Here we had brass bands and silver bands too, in those days they were the half time entertainment at football grounds.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

I liked Deja Vu better than the first CSN album and I also think Abraxis is better than the first Santana album. I didn't like Santana III when it came out but I love it now, especially the 2cd version which came out a few years back.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: Thanks for the reminder about "Mary's Prayer". A great forgotten gem. I'm pretty sure I still have the 45.


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Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast

Subject: debuts

Man, Peter you consistently win for "depth & breadth". The resident Beatles aficonado (spouse, she'll still proudly show anyone her ticket stub for Shea Stadium, '66) would have to weigh in here, but I agree, I think Meet the....was 1st here in the states. I do have to echo some other votes:

Creedence

Santana (definitely, still the best to listen to on the way to sliding down mtns)

CTA (thanks for the reminder, the 1st real notice for the average Norte Americano that you could get brass in there w/ geetars)

CSN, yes, generational.

Butter, not a bad choice although I prefer his live double album when he was really leading a full band. Perhaps "live" pressings can be a future category.

A few new: for the funk crowd; Tower of Power... what is hip, soul vaccination (really anything Dr. Steve Kupka puts his baritone sax to).

The Police: Outlandos d'Amour, was this their 1st? Admittedly not completely w/out some gaps/weaknesses but the start of an influence for sure.

Likewise, if Countdown to Ecstasy was 1st, then Steely Dan.

As I said, Dunc, we were in the nosebleed seats in '74. I think the St. Louis Arena or Kiel Auditorium, whichever it was, sat like 25k. Unlike Elvis Costello at Wembley, we were no where near the floor or the stage. But at least, yeah, there. I actually had tickets to see Levon at a small local venue, late March 2012. Got there, but obviously no go; you just knew it wasn't just a "bad back keeps him off the drumset". Bummed. And a year or 2 late or early, not sure which, to catch him as a headliner at the Newport Folk Festival, 2000 something.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

The Brown album is one of the greatest albums in existence. In a very small league.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Pink vs Brown

"The Brown album might rate as superior to the first, to some. " Not to some, JQ.....but to all......Not even in the same ballpark.....If it wasn't for Eric Clapton's mythologizing, the comparison would be laughable.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: First Two Band Album's In Performance with Garth. March 25th

See the Link. Happening in Glendale, Californighai.

Timely to the discussion.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Debuts and the rarity of a better sophomore effort

Bob F - I went to the BBB's East-West first and then went back; I still prefer EW, although it's been a good while since I've heard either.

I wanted to include Fresh Cream, John Prine and Elvis C's My Aim Is True to the list, although that last one was definitely an acquired taste for me, took awhile and that was my problem, not the New Wave genre - I can't knock The Pretenders and Talking Heads' debuts either.

On the rarity of superior 2nd efforts - I've always thought of a debut as the work of a lifetime, the 2nd the work of 12 months or so. The Brown album and Beck Ola (and Godfather 2!) might rate as superior to the first, to some.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Paul Butterfield's Blues Band

This record brought a generation of kids to the blues. Many jumped over them to find the originals but these guys were the real deal also. Great record.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Location: Kristofferson

You can't overlook Kris Kristofferson's first record with Bobby McGee, Help Me Make It Through the Night, For The Good Times, Sunday Mornin' Comin' Down. Really changed country music.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie on Leonard Cohen

LINKED: An interview with Robbie which is different than most - just a short one with the CBC but distinguished by him being asked about the late great Leonard Cohen. I liked his answer. Do check it out.

Debut Albums that left an impression:

1. "Look Sharp" - Joe Jackson

2. "All Things Must Pass" - George Harrison

3. "Led Zeppelin" - Led Zeppelin

4. "Never Mind the Bollocks" - Sex Pistols

5. "Strange Streets" - Garfield

Jeff A: Funny and yes the timing does fit......a smoke and a laugh with a lovely Mongolian lady.....and damn if I didn't start thinking of you.......maybe Sergey Kislyak had spiked my drink !


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Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Debuts

Peter, great choices. The Beatles has to be tops. In America we got Meet The Beatles though I think Introducing The Beatles may have been released first.

Dunc, CSN is a great choice and really is an iconic record.

A few of my favorite debuts:

Laura Nyro - More Then A New Discovery

Blood Sweat & Tears - Child Is A Father - All the hits were on the 2nd release with David Clayton Thomas but this was the blueprint.

Chicago Transit Authority- They turned into such an mor band but the first two releases felt like they were revolutionaries.

Jackson Browne - Saturate Before Using

New York Dolls

Bruce Springsteen - Greetings From Asbury Park, NJ - Where it all started.

Patti Smith Group - Horses

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers

Amy Winehouse- Frank - Back to Black is where we in America jumped in but Frank is such a great record.


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Posted by:

Peter V

No, but still reading the very fine book on Bert Berns, Brown Eyed Girl was the debut solo single as far as name on the label goes, but Van has always rejected the "Blowing In The Mind" album, which has a dozen other album titles in various forms, as he had no control AND didn't get paid. It's arguable whether Astral Weeks is a true debut album or not … we could argue Them too, as Van's notes to the de luxe edition claim he is really solo..


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Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love

Subject: Debut albums

Peter, have you seen the recent documentary on Bert Berns which includes Van? Hugh McCracken didn't play on demos. Brown Eyed Girl is Van's solo debut.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Mary's Prayer by Danny Wilson

Thanks, Peter. You know the second last one. Remember. Look it out. Brilliant

I've linked Mary's Prayer by Danny Wilson for everybody. Give it a listen.

Since my last post I've been upto Central Glasgow. Visited two second hand CD shops and Fopp, for non Brits a good music shop. One of the second hand shops seems to be moving to DVDs. The change in Fopp was amazing - vinyl is taking over. Younger people buying.

'Talking Book' by Stevie Wonder on sale at £28. If you're selling vinyl, now is the time. I gave mine away and bought the CD years ago, but I never had a great vinyl collection, apart from the singles.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: One of the great consoles for sale

The Console used to record & mix Dark Side of The Moon is getting auctioned off.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Paul Simon

Great list … though I don't know the last two. Will find out. I nearly included the "Paul Simon Songbook" which wasn't originally released in the USA. It has I Am A Rock, Sound of Silence - though every track is good.

I do see why Paul Simon is separate … very early use of reggae in Mother & Child Reunion, plus Puerto Rico in Me & Julio Down By The Schoolyard. Duncan is a fabulous lyric, but I might go for the South American version on Live Rhymin'. It's a fabulous album.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Influential debut albums

I play all these albums regularly and think they are great and hope they are influential.

Creedence Clearwater Revival - needs no explanation.

Paul Simon Paul Simon. The measure for singer songwriters. And it has a song called Duncan on it. I know there was an album back in '65, but that doesn't count.

Crosby, Stills and Nash - this was important to my age group, cutting edge stuff.

Robbie Robertson - I felt the production of great songs were continuing after a wait. 'Somewhere Down The Crazy River' is a film, and got many plays up here.

Blackie and the Rodeo Kings - High or Hurtin - The Songs of Willie P Bennett. Great music. Is it influential in Canadian music? I hope so.

Stealers Wheel - Over 50 million Youtube hits for 'Stuck In The Middle'.

Carole King - Writer. Writer becoming performer

Jock Tamsons'Bairns - The bench mark for any folk album to be measured against. Just ask Richard Thompson.

Meet Danny Wilson - Danny Wilson. Has the brilliant 'Mary's Prayer' on it. Showing other Scottish bands that they can get to the top.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks Mike. I was pleased that the film had received a wider audience and was glad you liked the Michael Marra song. Your holiday seems idyllic.

Thanks, Haso. I knew it was a quote, but I don't know from where. I wish I had seen one of the concerts on the 74 tour. I envy you. I enjoy the Band's performances on the Before the Flood album.

Debut albums are a good theme, Peter, and I couldn't disagree with your list. But maybe because of my age or my cautious nature, what's important to me is the album which grabs my and the masses' attention. But I'll have a go.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Influential debut albums

Debut albums of great influence … there are many questions. What if the artists recorded an album under a different name? What if the earlier albums were (say) Jamaican releases only … The Wailers?

Van Morrison - while I think we can discount those Bert Berns demos thrown together on LP as a debut album … in the sleeve notes to “Them” Van says he was the only person who appears on the first album … the rest were all session guys … so is “Them” Van’s debut album? Or can we count Astral Weeks? I want to.

I’m tempted to Mr Tambourine Man album by The Byrds as the genesis of folk-rock, but really it’s only the singles that counted, not the LP. That’s not true of Please Please Me though … Twist & Shout, anyone? I Saw Her Standing There? Not singles until much later.

Then Sweetheart of The Rodeo is ALMOST a new band, but doesn’t qualify, so Gilded Palace of Sin takes the place.

My greatest search was for a qualifying soul album. I don’t think there is one, as all of them went for singles first, and early LPs wee “two singles plus ten more”. Sly nearly got there with “A Whole New Thing” but it’s much weaker than the next two or three albums.

SO …

Music From Big Pink – The Band

Please Please Me – The Beatles

The Rolling Stones – The Rolling Stones (most English kids intro to blues and R&B classics

Are You Experienced? – Jimi Hendrix

Songs of Leonard Cohen

The Velvet Underground and Nico (Yes, the Q writers were correct here)

Astral Weeks – Van Morrison

The Gilded Palace of Sin – The Flying Burrito Brothers

In The Court of The Crimson King - King Crimson (defines early prog)

Black Sabbath- Black Sabbath (I loathed it, but it starts off heavy metal)


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Can it be that in reality Kevin is no other than that world in-famous spy, aka world's greatest no-goodink, Boris Badenov?



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Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: debuts, woodstock, 1st of the Band

Thanks for the link to the Woodstock recording, listening as I write.

My 2 debuts, have to think on more, would be MFBP & John Prine. In fact where the Brown album fits an earlier discussion... albums w/ no weak spots, I'd posit that John Prine fits in both. Even "Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore" isn't so dated as one might have thought before.

Jeff A & glenn t.: it could be age, but sometimes you get ahead of others; although I'm 62, not 68 or 70, the Brown album was the 2nd or 3rd album I ever bought. The cover picture got me right there, kind of like Peter talking about MFBP @ W.H.Smith. As I recall, it was my freshman year in h.s. By soph year, my friends were all about Dylan, Sonny Boy Williamson and James Taylor/Joni/CSNY. By college years we were thoroughly into the Allmans, the Dead, Skynyrd but also Yes, the Moody Blues, Steely Dan even Waylon & Willie's outlaw album. (Jeff A & glenn t: we can return to more Alton, IL comments another time; it's likely that glenn & I have many common connections from that little school on the bluffs over Elsah, for what it's worth). Yet our boys never went away; I distinctly recall a music appreciation course and playing the prof the Band along w/ Jackson Browne, after class. He was very impressed w/ these guys musicianship. But I've said here before, I think they taught Dylan a lot more about music, just as he did them about writing songs.

Dunc: I think that comment about subjugating them to Dylan especially comes from Don Was on the classic albums dvd; he thinks it was a mistake to lump them in so much w/ Dylan. Maybe it also bears in mind, that they seemed more intent on playing music than fame; I guess I thought they may have all stayed in Woodstock longer, if it hadn't got so weird for Robbie and Dominique. But then weren't Zuma Beach and Laurel Canyon kinda f***ed too? The '74 tour was definitely not about the music; the venues were huge and from our nosebleed seats, it's lucky I knew pretty much all of the Band's lyrics.

Yes, mucho kudos to Jan H for this site.

Come back, Angelina.

The question I really want answered is for RR to speak to being 73. How's it compare w/ what he thought he & Ragtime Willie would be encountering?


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Don't Feed The Russian or Canadian Bears

Speaking of- Kevin didn't you disappear right around the time of....- stop fucking in our elections! Norm fell for your liberal cover but once you mentioned "smoking Mongolian" you blew the little possible faith I had in your cover.

Norman, See what you can do with that material. Maybe you can get 12 or 13 years of disturbance out of that.



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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Jed & listening to Woodstock

My Russian network of all things spying alerted me to the fact. ; )


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: RR Singing a line on Ain't No More Cane

I believe it's him?


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Woodstock

Fred, nice link. Had not heard that before. Listening on headphones, Robbie's guitar is quite isolated on the left side and you can really hear what he is doing. It seems to me that he was more improvisational or spontaneous, and while obviously playing within the song, varied more from performance to performance than the rest, with the possible exception of Ricky. The rest seemed to play pretty much straight parts, very close to the studio versions. Not that there is anything wrong with that. They are pretty damn good songs.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

I think the Woodstock performance is enjoyable, I don't know why people make negative comments about it. As for debut albums, I would rate Santana and Are You Experienced highly.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: Band at Woodstock

Just listen to those harmonies on Ain't No More Cane. Beautiful!


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Fred-Band at Woodstock

How'd you know I was listening to that this morning?Pretty darn good for what some described as a ragged performance!


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: The Last GB / before we all die

1.) The best posts, the best arguments, the best nonsense posts are published in a book. _Paper_, that is. Crowd funding, maybe.

2.) The most horrible minutes in the history of the GB are documented... like Swedish Internet Police believing that you are a pedo network which have hijacked my Windows computer. (you haven't, right....? )

3.) Playing 'The Weight' together and publishing it with the GB book. With today's technology and Jan's knowledge it should be possible.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Happed in Mist

Dunc, thanks. I played the Michael Marra link this morning while on vacation, staring out onto the Gulf of Mexico, morning sun yet to rise. Very stirring, words that mirror my own thinking about war, man's inhumanity to man, duty to king and country, etc etc etc. I played it again. Lovely song, albeit muchly thought-provoking. Something I'll keep.


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Woodstock


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: 1976 NOT 1979

ooooops! ;)


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Casino Arena July 1979

This may have been posted before, if so my apologies. : )


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Correction

Velvet underground and Nico debut album choices by a mile. I can see where I got 8 from. Sorry.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks Wallsend, Kevin, Rockin Chair, Fred, Jeff A and Peter.

Maybe fame was the wrong word I chose. Maybe I should have said they never got the recognition they deserved.

I think the Band obviously benefit from their association with Dylan, but are also harmed by their association with him. During the sixties world tour, everybody appreciates the quality of the music now, but they are seen by many people as Dylan's backing band. Many people at the concerts were folkies and would never go onto appreciate The Band's music. People, who would sing, holding their ears. There are even riders on their performances. Heylin states it improved when Levon was replaced by Mickey Jones. 'Suddenly, the Hawks had a drummer who was as unwilling to take a back seat as their erstwhile leader, Levon Helm'. I think Levon's drumming is great.

I came across this site many years ago because I was wondering if The Band songs were going to last. I love the songs. People who had the first two albums at the time would be knowledgeable music fans. Peter playing 'The Weight' every day would not be the norm. Many people here have never heard the songs. You can't even sing the first line, Kevin. I use the TV series 'Absolutely Fabulous' and 'TNTDODD' to explain who they are. I would say that the Brown album is as good as any album Dylan produced. And I like Dylan.

I don't know anybody who reads Time magazine, but it was great that they were on the front cover.

The 1974 tour. Not an expert on this, but Levon says 'the tour was damn good for our pocket-books, but it just wasn't a very passionate trip for any of us.' I get the feeling that they were seen as more than a backing band, but didn't get the credit they deserved. I think 'more than a backing band' is a quote from somewhere. Grudging praise.

Even 'The Last Waltz' which is now revered - I've read a few times that the Last Waltz was in trouble in terms of ticket sales and that tickets only began to sell when Graham leaked the guest list to The San Francisco Chronicle. And then it was important that Dylan HAD to appear.

Look at Peter's recent post relating to Mojo and debut albums - Nico and the Velvet underground 8 votes, while MFBP 1 vote.

I could go on - but I feel that the music has not had the plaudits it deserves. The songs and the way they are played deserves more.

When I came onto Jan's website, I really appreciated the effort people had put into writing articles. But the downside was when i learned of the financial standing of Band members. I got a shock.

More fame would have meant them playing more prestigious venues than they did for better rewards after the Last Waltz, whatever route they took.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Debut albums

It has to be the first album by an artist or a group. It's not as obvious as it seems … for example, the Graeful Dead or Jefferson Airplane's debut albums probably don't figure to most people. Even "Bob Dylan" was afficiandos only … I'd say "Freewheelin'" was the breakthrough, but it's not a debut.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Sunset Song

Hi Mike, Enjoyed your post. I did enjoy the film and was glad it had travelled to your part of the world. 'Sunset Song' is the first and best book, in a trilogy of three novels entitled 'The Scots Quair' by the writer, Lewis Grassic Gibbbon, who died aged thirty four. Many Scots see it as the greatest Scottish novel of all time.

I've linked a song by the late Michael Marra, 'Happed In Mist', about Chris Guthrie's husband's experience in the first world war. Anytime I heard this song performed live, there was a real silence in the audience. Michael Marra is one of Scotland's greatest sonngwriters, but many Scots won't have heard of him.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Garland Jeffreys

Bugger! Garland Jeffreys is playing Poole on Friday 31st March, a mile from my house … and I'm in London for theatre. Same last time he played here. The trouble is UK theatre has such a long booking time. We just bought tickets to see Ian McKellan in King Lear in November. We had "members" priority booking, went online immediately and while we got two seats we couldn't get them together. Total sell out run on the first morning. So you have to book way in advance for many things.


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Posted by:

Peter V

W.H. Smith, Bournemouth. Top floor. An album with a weird painting and no title. Looked at the back. A list of names. Never heard of them. I knew the Bob Dylan connection, had read about it. Interested. Then The Weight came on the radio and the university common room jukebox. I played (as I have often said) my three tracks for a shilling every morning while I glanced a the free newspaper headlines. The Weight – White Rabbit- I Shall Be Released. That’s because if you selected the A and B sides together, the juke box skipped the second. You had to separate them. Then the fabulous Spooky Tooth covered The Weight. We were heavily into Traffic. The mood fitted.

This month MOJO magazine did all their writers choosing the best ten debut albums. It's a lazy way of filling space. The most chosen was The Velvet Underground and Nico by a mile. One chose MFBP. One chose Please Please Me. The two most obvious ones for me. So ten best DEBUT albums anyone?


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Posted by:

Wallsend

I first heard the Band in Easy Rider but back then you could not get MFBP or the Brown album in New Zealand. The first album I got was Stage Fright. I was little disappointed because I really wanted MFBP. With regard to the Dead, I really liked the Skull and Roses album plus Europe 72.


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Posted by:

glenn t

Jeff, I'm also 58 (for a few more months). I remember being aware of hearing The Weight on the radio. Later my brother tried to get me to listen to the Stage Fright album. That got my attention. But what really hooked me on The Band was when he played Rock of Ages (all 4 lp sides) straight through. That was it! I didn't need to hear their tracks on the radio; I became a thorough Band fan, and slowly but surely acquired their records. And finally saw them live at the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles in '76 before they wrapped things up with The Last Waltz. One rarely heard anything but The Weight or Cripple Creek on the radio, but then I'd rather listen to my or others records than commercial radio stations. God bless The Band! What glorious music they made! And thank you Jan H. for providing this website for Band fans around the planet.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

i liked the Band way before the Dead. though my friends were into the dead sooner, my real exposure to em was the Europe 72 album, then backwards Wake OF the Flood & blues For Allah& shows. First time i saw em was 75.


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Posted by:

Fred

Jeff: one of my cousns is the same age as you are. But he wasn't too keen on The Band.(Still isn't as far as I know) He liked Blood Sweat & Tears a lot (still does), Climax Blues Band, The Powder Blues Band, music like that.



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Posted by:

Fred

Yeah, what gets played on the radio is a big influence, too. By the time I really started getting into music (1976/77) I didn't hear a lot of stuff by The Band on the radio other than the usual suspects. I do remember listening to the concert on the King Biscuit Hour on the radio. I was living in Italy at the time, so I listened to the US ARmed Forces FM station rather than Italian radio for my music.

I don't think any of my Italian friends knew the music of The Band that much. It was either hard rock/heavy metal or prog rock, especially among the older brothers.

I remember a classmate (grade 10) who liked Neil Young, Dylan, Leonard Cohen and the Grateful Dead, but he never mentioned liking The Band.

Come to think of it I may have been the only one who knew of The Band. Hmm.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

I'm 58 but remember The Weight hitting the NYC radio airwaves. And bought Brown when it came out cause I loved the cover and The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down. Back then if there was a song you knew & loved on a record iodds were there were a lot of songs you would love on that record.

One or two of my friends & I used to hang out in record stores & department store record departments when i was a kid.Those experiences been long gone for people.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Granted I'm generalizing here, but..

I think it a lot has to do about time.

If you were a teenager in the 60s, liked the Hawks, then it was more likely you were attracted by The Band when their debut LP came out. Certainly the connection with Dylan didn't hurt, either.

If you hit the teen years between 1975-1977 then chances are listening to The Band was not a priority. Loud that's what counted the most ...it pissed your parents off (especially if they were born before WWII)

And no The Band wasn't a loud rock and roll outfit (regardless of what you're told to do at the beginning of TLW)

Furthermore for a lot of teens (between 1977 and 1981/82...my peers) that music was, as a friend of mine (a headbanger) back then put it, "Hippy Shit". I'm sure the punkers were of the same opinion. Or worse. Although they probably thought heavy metal was hippy shit, too. ; )


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: Robbie explaining the choices of songs on the Testimony CD/Album....Unbound is such a beautiful song....and a nice video to look at as well.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Making a record is a ton of work. It's not a lot of work for a day or two. It's a lot of work for a while. The more music, the more work. There's a lot of listening. There's a lot of steps. The commitment & what you must deliver to achieve great results is huuge. Discipline is required.... This can all be a lot of fun, But you also have to respect the process, take a lot of brakes, have some laughs. Being a great player doesn't necessarily translate into having interest in doing this , or having that interest forever. But, bands that don't retain the level of great records, well, they got to come up with great songs, great performances, then find great production, great marketing... the industry isnt there to try to hand it to them any more.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Personalities.

Don't even get me started on Club Owners & Studio Owners.
A nice & fair studio owner with a great studio who also actually has everything working is rare these days and should be given 24 hour personal protection. (Charge what you need, just be nice and deliver.)


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Artists personalities.
Are often their undoing.
Often prevent many great, well developed talents from rising above local level.

I've worked with some one I consider in the top one per cent tile, who outside of the industry and a small circle of music lovers, no one knows who the hell he is. And he is one of the greatest singers & live performer I've ever heard. Accomplished in his genres, always worked, but, with some other directions some time, might have been in that real top realm of greats. The brilliance & stage persona is there. But even today, with a sometimes great personality and professional demeanor, the rest of the time, there's enough in the way to prevent great things from happening.

And then i work with guys who just can't not be overimpressed with themselves. Great talent. Unique. Really deliver exceptional , unique music. No one except local crowds really ever heard of them. And they are too impressed with themselves to realize how lucky they are to still get to perform sometimes, & they almost don't realize they have to bend & respect other people.....

Not being able to really listen is often the downfall of many great musical artists. It's not only about them. & that's funny, because DEEP LISTENING is such a huge part of music. "What do you hear?" Is one of the questions we ask each other frequently. "I hear", "I'm hearing", I'm feeling" are things we say. But not listening in musical work relationships is a big cause of underachievement. And it's part of PERSONALITY..........Abuse, addiction, be it alcohol or narcotics. of course a huge proble. also part of personality. (Today, add all that to no real opportunity present.)

OF course, i work with some players who just couldn't be easier to get along with. Sometimes it's like that from the start, other times, it takes a little time for them to realize some one is for real. but eventually the true great and kind players see when some one is legitimate and calm down into friendship real fast.



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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Discourse. Or Dat Course.

The Band guys were who they were. Ultimately that is what the most legitimate artists are. How artists work translates into public acceptance & adoptence, how it is embraced,, critical acceptance, and how it is therefore pushed to the masses, is one area that is sometimes a toss of the dice, sometimes it's not left to a toss of the dice.

How labels related to artists varied for different reasons too. And of course, then there is the artists or artists in a band.
The guys in The Band were who they were, no more, or no less. What The Band & the individuals didn't accomplish pales next to the music they made. Which is as great as any music ever created. Everyone here is grateful for it.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 21:03:51 CET 2017 from (184.146.91.95)

Posted by:

Kevin

Subject: Dunc and Fame

Thank you, Mike N ! As to the question of Fame and the Band. I am not sure that they could have done any more……hooking up with the most famous and revered pop/rock star on the planet in Bob Dylan for a world tour in 1965 and 1966, then getting themselves in 1970 on the cover of what at the time would have been one of the top 5 best distributed and prestigious magazines in the world – Time Magazine – then another tour with the oh so famous Bob Dylan in 1974 and then in 1976/78 starring in the most famous and 40 years on still the consensus best concert film of all-time – The Last Waltz………what they didn’t have were socks down their trousers or the type of “Whole Lotta Love” - “Bohemian Rhapsody” type anthems that stamp fame across generations….Heck, almost no rock fan on earth even knows the name of their biggest song…how many times have you had to say “ you know, the Take a load off Fannie song”.

That Marc Maron podcast with Robbie is extraordinary........and just watched "The Night Of" on dvd.....fabulous and to think James Gandolfini was set to play the John Turturro part.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 20:10:06 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: In a nut shell

Well said....Wallsend...(that sounds formidable). Totally agree.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 19:35:31 CET 2017 from (114.75.195.88)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Dunc, I don't think more fame would have helped our guys as three of the five couldn't handle the fame they achieved. Same as with sport, to be really successful you not only need a technical ability but you need an appropriate personality to go with it. You need a work ethic and an ability to stay focused which our guys seemed to lack. The reformed Band could have been more successful if they had been willing to put in the work to come up with some new music but it seems they either couldn't or didn't want to do it.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 17:47:32 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Question Mark

Hi Bob, thanks for your reply. I too have always enjoyed our conversations over the entertainment we share. I realize your friend has always championed your daughter and helped and supported her in every way that is a good thing.

I guess I'm missing something here, or it is something I don't know about. I re-read a lot of resent posts and haven't figured out what it is about.

My only point was I don't see where a third party roasting some one makes sense. I have no part in it and I don't think any one else should. Every one is entitled to an opinion until it gets to publicly taking a side and giving a couple of guys shit.

Like you I would sooner see it done instead of throwing gas on a fire...seems that is amusing to some tho'.

Leaving for Australia on the twenty-first. Got to go and find the guy who punched an old man kangaroo in the mush and have a beer with him.

If you have seen it, (it was on the news) just search on youtube, (guy punches kangaroo in the face). It is hilarious. The kangaroo has the guy's dog in a head lock. The guy runs over, the kangaroo stands up and they square off like boxers.......then POW! right in the kisser!


Entered at Wed Mar 1 17:38:35 CET 2017 from (71.46.56.161)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Dunc, I'd be interested to hear your take on the 2015 movie Sunset Song, if in fact you've seen it, filmed apparently partly in Scotland, New Zealand and elsewhere, about the story of a young girl growing up in rural Scotland shortly before the start of the First World War. I saw it for the first time a few days ago and was struck by the beautifully shot scenes, as well as the story line, although I was often confused by the Scottishness of the spoken words . . . this despite my growing up while living next door to a gasoline/petrol station operator named Angus Chalmers, who was from Perth. Fine gent. He let me gas up some of the cars that stopped by. Told me stories of his Scottish youth. I also loved the actress who played the lead in the film. Her name is Agyness Deyn, which I reckon is Celtically spelled.

Welcome back to planet earth, Kev.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 16:27:10 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.116)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

BTW Bob, in that same last post, you made fun of people with learning disabilities. Get a hold of yourself before some hall monitor gets insulted.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 16:22:51 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.116)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Geez Bob. You're really pushing it now. Though you did not ask for an apology from Munson, in the old days at least three *prominent* posters I can think of would have accused you of asking for an apology in that last post of yours. Stop being a sissy Bob! :-)


Entered at Wed Mar 1 14:44:19 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Norm, I judge people the way I find them. Jeff has always been supportive of my daughter. Taking trains all over NYC to see her perform when she was first getting started. He championed her music here and on social media. Most people won't lift a finger to help an independent artist. He's actually out there supporting live music instead of reading about it in history books. He's been a good friend. You and I have communicated about music, movies and television shows and I've always respected you. When you're not around I always ask for you. If Bill M was really a stand up guy as you say he'd apologize for making a stupid comment and that would be the end of it. Instead he comes up with some weasel excuse that he wasn't talking about anyone in the GB. Right. I'm done with it now. It's always better to let thing pass instead of getting into it with people like Bill M but that is a lesson I never seem to learn.

JQ, thank you. We appreciate the support.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 13:41:14 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.116)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Well that sure cleared things up for everyone.

This one is a healthier performance, better, but, that's inappropriate to the inspiring post. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff9W7586Y08


Entered at Wed Mar 1 10:32:21 CET 2017 from (86.131.115.16)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Band misses

Having read Testimony at Christmas and related posts, I feel that the Band in terms of achieving greater fame in the UK suffered from a near miss and poor management.

Now the Band's cds are on sale still in the few cd shops there are and the rock community obviously knows about them, but often I speak to people who have never heard of the Band, whereas bands such as the Eagles, Kinks, Stones are well known.

Is fame important? Well that's a debate. But I feel the Band's music deserves a wider audience. Also, greater fame would have meant that they would have had bigger audiences when they reformed. I recently read how John Entwistle and Ronnie Wood (in different books) after becoming broke were put on a firm financial footing again by a tour.

The first bit of bad luck was that 'The Weight' wasn't a top twenty hit in the UK, at a time when the single charts dominated the market.

The other thing is surely it is bad management that the Band didn't appear in the Woodstock film or on the record. Bassmanlee, JQ and myself had a discussion last week about the fame of the Who in the States. Maybe the conflicting reports can be explained due to the fact that although the early singles were known in the states, Woodstock took them onto a much higher level of fame according to Townshend.

Thanks for the nod, mates.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 08:18:32 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

We're still waiting to hear whether Kevin discovered his inner Outer Mongolian.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 06:42:41 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The last word!

There are times when posts here are taken the wrong way, and misunderstood. People have different slants on humour. I have known Bill M for a long time. I've sat and had coffee and chatted with him. Bill has his humour and I have mine, as does every one else. Bill is a standup guy as I'm sure Bob is. I think, (and hope) this is just a misunderstanding of a bit of humour.

This "Put 'Em UP" mouth piece from down that way has no business "gunning off" JQ and Bill and should practise what he is saying.

Bill and Bob are both big boys and can sort this out I'm sure.

To clear up otherspouting off of "Put "Em Up". When I first started posting here, (long after I found this site) the page was pink! Tracey was at the helm. I started a while before Steve Heggison. Steve and I exchanged many e mails. We had both been told from people down New York way that the "Put 'Em Up" thought that Steve and I were one and the same person. He could not believe that I was on the west coast and actually a seaman, Captain of a tug boat. We had a lot of good laughs over that and the feisty attitude of this character.

Nothing much has changed except a lot of good people have left the world, gone on to other things or just can't be bothered.

There are so few left that it really is a shame to see any problems amoung us "band of brothers" FOR WHO SO EVER SHEDS HIS BLOOD WITH ME THIS DAY SHALL BE MY BROTHER....BE HE 'NER SO VILE!

Dunc your posts are always welcome. I admire your ability to always be a gentleman. I of course ......am not. But..... at least I don't have to be out there any more getting beat about by bad weather.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 02:33:57 CET 2017 from (24.114.78.67)

Posted by:

Bill M

JQ: Thanks - I appreciate you popping in like that. I actually haven't said a word about RoseAnn F before right now - not positive, not negative.

Dunc: You deserve a good netizen award for your effort to keep the ball rolling the other day. I never find your posts banal, though my standards in such things are pretty low, so I've been told.

Kevin J: I certainly didn't have anyone here in mind re the hall monitor.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 02:31:21 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bob W

Sorry Bob, I was responding to what, superficially, looked so damn strong. To indicate that somebody leave the GB is about the heaviest thing a poster can do here. I do stand by my hope that Bill M sticks around and this episode wraps up easily and to Jeff's point, none of this is my biz at all anyway.

I don't know if Al Edge mentioned to you that I play RoseAnn on my radio show. I had a brief bit of dialog with her early on. Boxed Wine can get the phone to ring without much prodding from me.


Entered at Wed Mar 1 00:37:35 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

JQ, Bill M has never been supportive of RoseAnn's music. He's never had a kind word to say. He's one of the reasons I never post anything about RoseAnn on the GB anymore.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 23:17:52 CET 2017 from (86.131.115.16)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Music

I listened to Radio Scotland today.

There were two interesting interviews today. One was with Karine Polwart, a folk singer, who is building a following across the UK. She was positive, but described how she sold her flat to finance her second album, how she now lived in rented accommodation with her children and how she had nothing behind her to fall back on and would have to work for ever. The difficulties facing an artist. See link for beautiful song. I thought of Bob's daughter.

Although, also in the Scottish papers this week, it was reported Paolo Nuttini made a million pounds last year.

The other interview was with the guy who runs T in the Park, the huge Scottish music festival. He described how music was compartmentalised now which made it difficult to run a festival. Music followers were in different groups - those who followed DJ led music (I thought of Jan's son) and those who followed guitar bands. No trouble between them, but they wouldn't visit stages that didn't play their music...making it more difficult to host a festival.

Also, I quite like lists - I seek out on You Tube what you guys are listening to.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 22:50:52 CET 2017 from (184.146.91.95)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bob F: Thank you for the nice words and warm welcome back…..and Bill M, likewise…though I must say I didn’t understand the hall monitor comment either……..anyhow, any day at the GB where there is more posters from North America and Europe than Pakistani-spammer land is a good one I guess………where is Todd and JT and Mike Nomad….and Pat B !


Entered at Tue Feb 28 22:50:30 CET 2017 from (86.131.115.16)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Let's keep it going everybody. I enjoy everybody's posts.

My series of banal posts were just there to keep it going.

Enjoyed both your recent posts, Wallsend. Interesting. I wonder about paying a lot for music memorabilia of our era - will it hold its value as this generation moves on.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 22:37:27 CET 2017 from (107.77.97.20)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Jeff A

Ok


Entered at Tue Feb 28 22:15:46 CET 2017 from (173.3.48.235)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ. As far as disagreements in the GB go, this recent one is pretty mild. And you've no place meddling in it. Bob was well within his rights to respond to Bill M. The hall monitor remark was ill conceived, rude, completely uncalled for, & in no way justifiable. Bob, who is as affable as can be both here & in real life, was being nothing but friendly inquiring about missing posters.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 21:59:16 CET 2017 from (107.77.97.20)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: WTF?

Bob F - That comment about Bill M was so OTT, what the heck is the matter with you? Has he not also been supportive of Roseann? Was it some previous personal experience thing? I put Bill M in the same category as David Powell and others here that are deeply knowledgeable. And genuinely funny too. I don't understand-


Entered at Tue Feb 28 18:12:36 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Hall Monitor Comment

Bill M, always with the sarcasm. In the Hudson Valley we're still country enough that if a neighbor goes missing, we inquire about them. In the big city I guess you just lock the door and shut the blinds. Only a handful of people post in the Guest Book on a regular basis now. I don't think inquiring about them if they stop posting makes anyone a hall monitor or a busy body. That's just how we roll in the HV. Maybe that's one of the reasons The Band liked it here so much. That being said, to be truthful, if you stopped posting I would be the last person in the history of The Guestbook to care.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 09:43:22 CET 2017 from (114.75.199.151)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I am assuming that the typed lyrics on the auction website were typed on the famous Big Pink typewriters. If so they are rare treasures.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 09:32:37 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Photos

Absolutely amazing! Should have put them in Testimony. I love Levon's "shotgun" joke.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 05:58:36 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Thanks Wallsend. Those shots are beyond interesting. Look at Richard - so happy, so unstressed and uncomplicated, so - as the title says - real.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 05:53:17 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Yes welcome back. And yes, someone (not you) must've always wanted to be a hall monitor. Interesting about Frampton. People who loved "Comes Alive" in the day still seem to, and others (like me) who didn't particularly (or maybe just got sick of it hearing it so much) just don't have the energy to buy it and give it a second chance. I must admit to enjoying the bits and pieces I've heard in passing this millenium. On the other hand, I can't get that unpleasant sound of talking through a hose out of my mind. And the crowd went wild!


Entered at Tue Feb 28 05:41:23 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Wallsend's find

Nice! So, from the look of things it was a shotgun wedding. : )


Entered at Tue Feb 28 05:33:40 CET 2017 from (114.75.199.151)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

This is interesting.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 01:32:14 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

I may be the only person in Rock'n'Roll-dom who prefers Peter Frampton's "Do You Feel.." in its studio version without the talk box. Don't get me wrong the live version is a rocker, but sometimes that talk box bit gets annoying.

Conversely, I have no problems with the talk box on Joe Walsh's Rocky Mountain Way .


Entered at Tue Feb 28 01:29:45 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: New Garland - 14 Steps To Harlem

Check out this great new Garland Jeffreys song.


Entered at Tue Feb 28 00:58:56 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Welcome Back Kevin

Kev, it's great to see you're back and doing well. You were missed. I agree about Frampton deserving the honor. The live album made him but also kind of ruined him. I never found anything he did after that even slightly interesting. I love Humble Pie of course. If you love English rock and roll it's impossible not to love them.

Now that Kev is back, the next mystery is where the heck is Al Edge?


Entered at Tue Feb 28 00:09:24 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.103)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Kevin

So, what is your Mongolian nickname?


Entered at Mon Feb 27 20:21:00 CET 2017 from (184.146.91.95)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bob F'S Top 5 How The Hell Are They Not in The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame

....I would add Peter Frampton to that list. Mid 1970's every car radio, bedroom and basement party was blasting out Frampton Comes Alive.....Just the riff of "Do You Feel Like We do" qualifies him not to mention the biggest selling live album in music history.....and Humble pie wasn't too bad either.


Entered at Mon Feb 27 19:52:42 CET 2017 from (184.146.91.95)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Sturgill Simpson

Some thoughts from here and there:

* Sturgill Simpson: The music I listened to most while away was Sturgill Simpson’s “Metamodern Sounds of Country Music”. His most recent release “As Sailor’s Guide to Earth” topped all sorts of “Best Of” 2016 lists and based on discussions in December at this GB I went in to HMV to purchase it. On the theory that the albums that precede the break-out albums are usually far better, I also picked up the 2013 ‘Metamordern” album……..and the theory held up and then some…….Metamodern is so clean and beautiful and after listening to it for weeks I finally got to “A Sailor’s Guide to Earth”….I found Sailors Guide to be very disappointing…… so overproduced to the point of being extremely annoying………Listen to Metamodern and then put on Sailors Guide and after just 3 songs listening to all the unnecessary added bits of jingle and jangle, a gold start to you if you can resist just turning it off.

* “Eight Days a Week”: I was extremely disappointed with this. Of course, it’s the Beatles and the sound and music was great but as a documentary, it was really lacking…….Ringo looked like he has just gotten out of bed and was adding perfunctory commentary to a local newscast bit and Paul also looked haphazard and didn’t really add any zest to the film either. So who does the always light Ron Howard get to be his star commentator for a film on the greatest band in rock n roll history? Whoopie F*cking Goldberg ! I guess the other ladies of “The View” were unavailable……..Note: I do recall Al Edge being knocked out by seeing this at a theatre and by particularly being able to see the full Shea Stadium concert at the theatre showings. The DVD release does not have the concert and so one is just left with a limp documentary on the touring years. Best bits were the not seen before live performances and they really are great.

* Oasis – Supersonic: A documentary that I highly recommend…..Extremely well done…..being a fan isn’t necessary…..a test really for all great docs.

* Thanks to Bob F Jeff, Peter and Norm for the laughs about where is Kevin……..and thanks to Bob on the Stevie Nicks Belladonna info…I loved that album and her live shows with Waddy Wachtel during those years in the early 80’s

* BEG: Come on back…….getting into a tizzy about the lack of commentary on the Ladies March is not worth it. The facts are that 100% of White supremacists voted for Trump. 92% of Blacks and Latino’s voted for Hillary…..while less than 45% of Caucasian women voted for Hillary…..So she loses and then a bunch of white women go marching and we are all supposed to take notice. Most of us were just too fed up and disgusted to care at that point.

* Testimony: Just started and loving it. 100 pages in. Beautiful...Feel like I am right there driving late at night in the car with Levon and Robbie sharing stories about life.


Entered at Mon Feb 27 07:56:57 CET 2017 from (210.86.85.166)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Christchurch

To make matters worse they recently had a serious bush fire in the port hills. Destroyed an adventure park that was part of the rebuild project. Quite a few houses were destroyed - ones that had survived the quake.


Entered at Mon Feb 27 06:50:34 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.168)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Thanks for posting that Glenn.


Entered at Mon Feb 27 05:11:38 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Web: My link

Subject: More Boss

See link for article about Bruce & The E streeters playing Christchurch, New Zealand. A beautiful city that's been devastated by earthquakes. Whether you like Bruce or not, every one should read this article about a city struggling to rebuild, and about the power of rock & roll to lift one's spirit. I lived in Christchurch many years ago, and can't imagine what it would be like to face such loss and devastation. Their city center was so beautiful and magical; I loved going there during our stay, and feel such sorrow for the challenges they now face. But God bless Bruce and his band for adding Christchurch to their tour schedule and giving them what sounds like a spectacular Springsteen concert!


Entered at Sun Feb 26 08:21:34 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: The Boss sings The Weight

: )


Entered at Sat Feb 25 04:28:22 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

Glenn t

What? No entries for Friday!


Entered at Thu Feb 23 19:27:55 CET 2017 from (31.48.6.235)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Lists

You're right Jeff.

I think what I'm meaning is this. There are certain artists that I return to all the time - and then there are other artists that I play from time to time.

Artists I couldn't live without and then artists I enjoy. Well I could if I had to live without, but you know what I mean.

But I love music and I really couldn't imagine a life without listening to music.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 19:16:50 CET 2017 from (31.48.6.235)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Sorry, Hiatt, not Hyatt.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 19:11:55 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.223)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Dunc. To me you can't be wrong on lists because to me, lists are kinda goofy. What's the point of a list? It can't be definitive.

I liked Little Village's release a lot, listened to it alot. It's great car music, but a record I could live without. Of course, if i listen to it again, i may love it.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 18:59:48 CET 2017 from (31.48.6.235)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Little Village didn't register with me.

But I play about half a dozen John Hyatt albums, Bop Till You Drop by Ry Cooder and the Brentford Trilogy albums by Nick Lowe.

I never pick any of these artists in my best of lists. Am I wrong?


Entered at Thu Feb 23 18:47:30 CET 2017 from (31.48.6.235)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Bill M. He was meaning that the three geniuses were himself, Moon and Entwistle. I browsed the book today, but couldn't find the quote. I feel Townshend and Daltrey grudgingly get along now. But the concert I saw at their peak was wonderful.

Thanks, Rockin' Chair. I'll give them a look.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 15:53:50 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: this little village ain't big enough for the both of us

JQ: Thanks. I wonder if the Mael brothers felt left out? Of course, I guess you could say that they ALWAYS felt left out.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 15:41:14 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Little Village

Fred - I think you're right about their album. The LV project had the romantic aspiration of recreating the clubhouse thing from which J Hiatt's magnum opus: Bring the Family emerged. I don't think it worked as they had hoped: 1 album and 1 tour and done. I've never read too much about the breakup; as I recall it might have been too many bandleaders in more subordinate roles. Or maybe Hiatt still thought it was his deal. But for me some of the promise of what this supergroup could do is more evident in their performances like the one I linked here.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 14:59:33 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Little Village

I felt a little "meh" about Little Village. With the talent involved I was expecting more. I have the CD. There are a couple of tracks I really like (Fool Who Knows & She Runs Hot) I wonder if my slight dislike is due to the fact I am not a very big John Hiatt fan,

Hmm... maybe I should give the CD another chance ...after 25 years I could be persuaded to change my mind.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 14:51:36 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Rodney Crowell/Nick Lowe

Bill M - Those 2 guys were linked as bro-in-laws for a decade or so when they were married into the Cash family -


Entered at Thu Feb 23 09:18:47 CET 2017 from (83.68.10.60)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Subject: Garth's New World on Largo

Peter, thanks for reminding me of Garth & Largo, which really is crossover. As much as I love Garth, I don't play this one very often, save the electrifying Gimme a Stone. Great tune that has nothing to do with Dvořák, all the more with Levon.

Absalom, Absalom, Would I die for you my son...


Entered at Thu Feb 23 06:29:32 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

JQ: Thanks for the link to Little Village. Hearing Lowe brought my favourite of his songs to mind - "The Rose Of England" at youtube.com/watch?v=AwGlzpTWwWo

Which always takes me to Rodney Crowell's "The One About England" - youtube.com/watch?v=yvqffTuqsxI

Which always takes me to this one by Sparks, another group with ties to Woodstock NY.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 03:58:54 CET 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Freddie McNulty

Was just going back over the pictures in Robbie's book and I noticed that in one of the pics of Levon and Robbie practicing, Robbie says the picture on the wall behind Levon is a portrait of Freddie McNulty. I sure would like to know the story behind who painted it. For those of you who never followed the boys in their Hawks days you probably won't get it. Freddie was this incredibly lovable, sort of mentally challenged character with a love for the Hawks music beyond belief. He was from Wilson Heights in Toronto, think Crang Plaza, and from all I've read and heard when Levon met him he took him under his wing. I think I read here a bunch of years ago, that one time when Levon was in Toronto in the eighties, him and John D went looking for Freddie but he had passed. Sad.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 03:48:50 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: History

Watching what unfolds daily, I'm reminded of Lord Tennison. People will follow blindly with little understanding......even today.

Theirs is not to reason why, theirs is but to do and die,

Into the valley of death, rode the six hundred.

Incredible how people will blindly follow a man without understanding.

Thank you Dunc! Don't know if you have ever seen, if not just search on Youtube. "The California Raisins". All the tunes are from Motown and it is still a wonderful experience to watch the magic that these video people can do putting this music to the animation of "The Raisins". It's wonderful. "The Raisins in a Boat" is a great one to watch.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 02:59:11 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Since Amazing Blondel's gorgeously placid "England" CD's been stuck in my car player for the past few days, I thought I'd share the peace. I see it as Ye Olde England's 1972 big green answer to Ye Olde Bande's 1969 big brown America - a return to the roots. For 20+ years I kept a second copy of the LP against the day that the first one became unplayable.


Entered at Thu Feb 23 02:36:31 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Web: My link

Subject: Little Village concert 1992

I hadn't heard this previously. It's great sound quality, 2 hours. One of my all time favorite outfits -


Entered at Wed Feb 22 19:31:50 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: It's difficult to know exactly what Townshend meant. My guess is that he counted himself as two separate geniuses, and pegged Entwistle as the third, but maybe Moon, or maybe even Daltry. Precedent for the latter comes from John Phillips' "Creeque Alley":

Zal said to Denny, "You know there aren't many
Who can sing a sing the way that you do"
And Denny said, "Golly Zally, don't you think that I wish
I could play guitar like you? - let's go south"


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Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Ambulance Blues

Neil Young has a bunch of perfect records with ON The Beach being one of them. I've been listening to Ambulance Blues a lot lately. Who could have imagined all these years later we'd have another president who fits to a tee the words Mr Young wrote about Richard Nixon.

I never knew a man

could tell so many lies

He had a different story

for every set of eyes

How can he remember

who he's talking to?

Cause I know it ain't me,

and hope it isn't you.



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Posted by:

Bob F

The Left Banke version was the original and a great deal more popular on the charts in the New York area. To this day when the song is played on oldies radio you're bound to hear the Left Banke version. I always felt The Four Tops was the big city version and the Left Banke the dreamy small town version. Another great song The Four Tops share is If I Were A Carpenter. Both their version and Bobby Darrin's version are pure magic.


Entered at Wed Feb 22 11:23:51 CET 2017 from (86.171.129.19)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

That's true, Rockin Chair. I had never thought of the tambourine as an important instrument, until I saw the Funk Brothers' documentary. A;lways used to think of it as the instrument for the mate in the band, who couldn't play anything.

When I read Pete Townshend's autobiography, there's a part, which says it must have been difficult for Roger Daltrey working with three geniuses.Playing My Generation, the album just now.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Classical Garth

We were playing "Garth's Largo" last night (from the "Largo" CD) another Garth take on a classic, the New World Symphony. We went to an elderly neighbour's funeral last week, and they played "Going Home" by the Libera Boys Choir … another take on Dvorak, and so sublime that we downloaded it. We played the two back to back.


Entered at Wed Feb 22 10:10:35 CET 2017 from (83.68.10.60)

Posted by:

Ragtime

I don't see Garth's wonderful improvisations on Bach's organ music as "crossover". He is a class on his own.


Entered at Wed Feb 22 01:14:00 CET 2017 from (72.143.198.122)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ragtime: Re the Band and classical music, there's also the part of "Testimony" where the guys are wondering how to start "Chest Fever" and Robbie has himself suggesting to Garth that Bach's "Toccatta And Fugue In D Minor" (or whatever) would be just the ticket. (BTW NYC I knew.)


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Moon on Happy Jack

That might have been the out front drums I was thinking about..


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Who here

Bill M and Bassman - I think there must be a misunderstanding as the earliest Who stuff was huge here. Tommy may have been an entry point into a new era with the long tracks on Live At Leeds as a bridge into that, but the early singles got loads of play. In SoCal at least. I recall first hearing Magic Bus as a teen and thinking: Now that's how drums ought to always sound on a record!


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Posted by:

Ragtime

Subject: Left Banke

Bill M, you seem to assume that The Left Banke were from the UK, but they were from NYC.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Motown Sound

You guys are forgetting to mention, without the "Funk Brothers" behind them a lot of that stuff would never have become what it did.

When a lot of those Southern Blues men from all over the south found each other in the Motor Town because they all went there looking for work, they made that Motown Sound.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Tomorrow I expect "The Motown Eps Vol 2" - 7 replica Eps from 1965.


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Posted by:

Ragtime

Subject: Motown

I'd like to add that The Four Tops had many hits in the Netherlands, including Walk Away Renee, and that The Left Banke had none...

Of course I have always loved Smokey, and Martha, and Stevie, and Marvin, and Wanda (especially her), and the Tops and Temps, even Diana (a bit) when she was young... and I'm still crying for Tammi... but really... they should do their own stuff, and avoid covers like Carpenter or Renee...

And, as a classical buff I admire the refined subtlety of Pretty Ballerina, the precious girl who (musically spoken) only found her equal in that poor lady Eleanor Rigby...

At the very same time I'm relieved that The Band never tried their hand on semi-classical crossover stuff (before someone asks : apart from the Last Waltz theme) and that Robertson's Penderecki project was called off in time...


Entered at Tue Feb 21 23:44:49 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

Subject: male pattern neediness

Peter V / Ragtime: I really can't see a guy who sappily referred to his Renee as Sugarpie Honeybunch reacting to her walking away with an eff-you shrug. No, Levi would have done the usual and padded along after her, pleading. He was certainly not unidimensional - witness his subsequent success as a singing plant in "Little Shop of Horrors".

bassmanlee / Dunc: I'm amazed that the pre-Tommy Who weren't known in the States. Up here, "I Can See For Miles", "Happy Jack", "My Generation" and "Can't Explain" all went to #1, and others did well - right up to and including "Magic Bus". "The Seeker" was the first flop in a long time, I believe, but even it did okay on Toronto's second pop station CKFH (in the days of Duff Roman and John D). I agree, Dunc, that the bass and drums were a gift; I credit the producer(s) with often installing bass riffs or drum solos where a guitar solo would usually be, even on a number of those hits.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 23:39:57 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Reach Out I'll Be There is easily my first Four Tops choice. Then It's The same Old Song, I Can't Help Myself, Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever (better than The Band's cover), Baby I Need Your loving… Walk Away Renee next.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 23:37:33 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I saw The Who in Le Disques A Go Go, a cellar with maybe 200? But fire capacity would be way less. Then at Hull in a 900 capacity refectory hall (but we hadn't heard of fire regulations in those days, so probably more). Keith Moon was dating his first wife (from Bournemouth) and they had a table with a minder at the next one.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 23:22:21 CET 2017 from (86.171.129.19)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

It's those early singles I like the best, Bassman. A drummer and bass player's gifts. I was thinking Substitute, I Can See for Miles, I'm A Boy, Happy Jack or Pictures of Lily Really like the bass playing on them, but if the crowd don't know them, no point.

'Let's Hang On' and 'Do you Believe in Magic?' are great songs too, but the latter wouldn't be a success here, not a hit.

Up there in concerts I have seen was the Who at their peak in a concret hall with capacity of 3000 with 4000 in it. Would never happen now.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Who

Dunc, early Who did not click for me, not much exposure over here, and no, we don't do any Who songs, not sure why. Of course singing My Generation as sixty-year olds would not do. Maybe Can't Explain would work. I think Who's Next was the record that really broke The 'Ooo in the States, although Live At Leeds got some, and of course Tommy did get considerable traction. I think many Yanks didn't get it. The movie was more about the story and guest stars than the band itself...Elton, Tina, et al.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 22:00:39 CET 2017 from (83.68.10.60)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Surely Holland was a Motown country too. But as much as I liked Levi and The 3 Tops, I didn't like them to sing any other than HDH stuff, even if they sometimes sounded like the same old song. So Bernadette it is, not Renee... Admittedly their Renee sounded a lot more powerful than when The left Banke did it, but still... So I'm sorry, I can't help myself, but I prefer the Tops to stick with their Sugarbunch Honeypie and The Left Banke to my tender Pretty Ballerina...


Entered at Tue Feb 21 21:54:43 CET 2017 from (86.171.129.19)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Peter, I know the review of Sly well. It's the worst concert that you have reviewed in my time here. But I got the feeling that you drove home sad rather than mad. Sly comes across as pathetic and exploited. I probably used the review to explain why he had passed me by in the past. Also timing - the album becomes important to me in 1971.

The Keith Moon story angers me. I hate when stars exploit their power.

But my album collection is full of artists who change due to fame, drugs and alcohol.

Incidentally, I couldn't agree more with your review of SS GB. Poor sound spoiled it for us totally. If you look at the BBC news website, many have complained. We just couldn't work out why it happened. I like this time too - we sit and have a bottle of wine, and there has been a lot of good drama over the years. (others scroll past)


Entered at Tue Feb 21 19:30:35 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Sly Stone

The link is to my 2007 review of Sly Stone, one of the two worst live shows I've ever seen. Ho hum. It still doesn't detract from his great music in 1968 to 1972, just as the fact that Keith Moon was deeply unpleasant person detract from the power of The Who. I meant LOONER not LONER.

The other worst show was Principal Edwards Magic Theatre,

Why The Lefte Banke in Holland but FourTops in the UK? No idea, but Britain was always a Motown market.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 19:25:23 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Dunc, people were afraid of Keith Moon because he had a minder, and if someone offended him, as I observed one day, the minder held the guy's arms behind his back while loveable loner Keith smacked him around very hard. The offence was putting a Who song on the jukebox. Keith said "Don't do that again." And the guy did. If you'd seen the minder, you wouldn't have intervened.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 18:07:17 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: what a difference a strait makes!

Ragtime: Sorry - it was not my intention to offend your tender sensibilities. I find it fascinating that you, on the mainland side of the English Channel, fell in love the Left Banke's minor hit, while Peter V (and all his musical friends on the big island) wasn't even aware of Left Bank's earlier, bigger hit. If the ballerina in question is still in your life, you might ask her if she would have preferred to be likened to a flamingo.

The link is to "Pretty Ballerina", with high-class fiddling by father Harry and his chums. They didn't call this 'baroque-rock' for nothing. By the way, one of Aerosmith's Steven Tyler's very first appearances on record was doing BGVs on a Left Banke record - don't know which.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: My name is Bill and I'm a headcase

Just finished two hours of lego...now free.

Thanks, Wallsend. May be me. A work colleague gave me a listen to a solo Gerry Garcia album and I enjoyed it.

Enjoyed that, Peter. I think I went off Sly when Melody Maker reported that he was being mean to his fans at a concert back in the day. I can't remember. Anybody remember this?

It's a great song, Bassmanlee, but in Britain it belongs to the Tops. Do you do any Who numbers? When I was going through my British sixties, I loved the drumming and bass playing. Great opportunities for you in the Who earlier material, Lee. Playing the hits just now and loving them. Happy Jack would be good. Love the bass playing finish to the song.

Thanks Bill M. Played 'Kings of Love' yesterday. Really enjoy their version of 'Don't Want To Know'.

Peter in your tribute to John Wetton, you mentioned that people were afraid of Keith Moon. Was this because he was a wild child and had no brakes?


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Larry Coryell

Saw Larry Coryell once, sometime in the mid Seventies(?) in a tiny bar in, I believe, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Why and how he was playing there I have no idea, as I don't think they had very much live music there. Larry was playing solo, no band, but with an electric guitar, a Les Paul as I remember. Seated for most of his set, at one point, during an impassioned solo, he stood and promptly stomped on the guitar cord and unplugged it. "Whoops!" he said, and laughed. He quickly reconnected it and continued with the solo.


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Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Left Banke

Pretty Ballerina uninspiring? Watch it buddy... one of my all time favorites.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 11:03:51 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: The empty sidewalks on my block are not the same

We did Walk Away Renee a few years ago – leading me to buy The Left Banke CD. It really is a case of first exposure with so many songs. We were doing our annual music quiz with different versions of songs in short extracts, and a dozen of my British contemporaries summed up the Left Banke as “weedy” “sad” “dire.” And not one of them had ever heard it before, but all knew The Four Tops backwards. I can see its virtues, and that if you got their (very) soft rock version first, Levi would be raucous and overwrought, but take it the other way, and Levi Stubbs defined it, and it’s “Take No Prisoners.”

And it fits the lyrics as Levi bellows “You won’t see me follow you back home” while you feel The Left Banke would be trailing after Renee, squeaking, “Don’t go, Renee, I’m ever so sorry, I didn’t mean it, PLEASE Renee.”


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Levon Helm memorial fundraiser

See link above, video from Arkansas with Amy Helm and old friends of Levon.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 03:08:40 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I should have added that I love everything on your list aside from PF - and that I appreciate you and Dunc sticking with "Everyday People", which is not just a great song - it's a terribly important one.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 03:04:33 CET 2017 from (173.3.48.112)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Look Towards A Dream

The link is to a album by Arnie Lawrence, with Larry Coryell on it. Chico Hamilton's The Dealer was the first album that Arnie & Larry both played on. In the words of Erik Lawrence (Levon Helm Band) , this was sort of a companion album of sorts..


Entered at Tue Feb 21 02:24:23 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Here's a link to the closest thing I have to a Larry Coryell record, Everything is Everything's "Witchi Tai To", a minor hit from 1969. I don't believe Coryell's even on it, but E is E was a spin-off from his earlier group, the Free Spirits and included both saxist Jim Pepper, who wrote and (I believe) sang this (and did an extended version on his own first album) and bassist Chris Hills (who wrote the b-side) from the earlier group. I've clung to this 45 for close to 45 years, I guess.


Entered at Tue Feb 21 01:32:36 CET 2017 from (67.70.148.118)

Posted by:

Bill M

Much as I love Levi Stubbs's voice, I'll have to stick with the Left Banke original. Perhaps it's again a case of it being the only version I knew at an impressionable age, or maybe it was a case of Levi being just too overwrought that time out. In any case, even Left Banke's unispiring follow-up, "Pretty Ballerina", trumps "Pretty Flamingo" hands down (even with Jack Bruce doing BGVs).

Band-link for trivia buffs: Left Banke leader Michael Brown, who co-wrote and sang the song, was the son of Harry Lookofsky, who plays fiddle on Bobby Charles's Woodstock album (co-produced by Rick Danko).


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Larry Coryell has died.


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Posted by:

John D

Check out Jimmy LaFave doing Walk Away Renee. Very different feel.


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Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago
Web: My link

Another good rendition of Walk Away Renee, from Southside Johnny in 1992. The whistling bit that Otis Redding does to lead out Dock of the Bay also lays really well on a harmonica, cross position -- it's tough to whistle through a microphone over a band. ;)


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Posted by:

Peter V

That is indeed a great bass part on Everyday People, and the other thing is that it is a group performance … everyone in the band gets a vocal bit.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Out of Time

Jagger produced Chris Farlowe's version (LINKED MIMING), which came out as the single, and the Stones did it as an LP track. Apparently, the later shorter Stones version has the same backing track as Farlowe's version, though the longer first version differs. Art Greenslade did the arrangements, and claimed that it was one of the earliest "line at a time" vocal recordings. Mick & Keef did the backing vocals. According to Wiki, Big Jim Sullivan and Joe Moretti played electric guitars, with Jimmy Page and Albert Lee on acoustic guitars, and Andy White on drums.

Farlowe's version was a UK #1 so sets it in the mind. I've seen him do it live several times … the best was with Van Morrison's band backing him.


Entered at Mon Feb 20 16:05:11 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Everyday People

"Everyday People" is the most compelling argument ever that it's not important how MANY notes you play, it's HOW you play them. Listen to the bass part. Genius.


Entered at Mon Feb 20 15:36:12 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Lists

It was many years of loving Walk Away Renee before I even heard of the Left Banke version … which I heard of here. The Four Tops s a UK #3 hit, and when you’ve heard Levi Stubbs first, there is no competition.

I’d agree that American Beauty is the first Grateful Dead album I’d recommend. Uncle John’s Band is my all time favourite GD track, and like Casey Jones comes from Workingman’s Dead, but as a whole album, I’d go for American Beauty.

Dunc, try Ev’ryday People … (LINKED) … it isn’t really like the Family Affair era stuff at all.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Renee

Dunc,

Nice list! Never heard the Four Tops doing Walk Away Renee. Over here it was one-hit wonders the Left Banke. Could be one for the band if anyone of us can hit the high notes. Nice harmonies there. We already do Dock of the Bay, despite the fact that none of us can whistle.


Entered at Mon Feb 20 11:44:47 CET 2017 from (114.75.203.34)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I always thought American Beauty was better than Workingman's Dead although there are a few tunes on that album I like.


Entered at Mon Feb 20 11:16:14 CET 2017 from (86.171.129.19)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Collections

I'm surprised that you have every single I mentioned apart from one on vinyl, Peter.

A big miss from my list was one of Stevie Wonder's sixties hits would be needed and the Temptations' Just My Imagination.

On your list I play 15 of the tracks (all on cd), but had never heard of Jefferson Airplane at the time, I have the Stones doing Out of Time and have seen Chris Farlowe sing it live, but don't have his version, I like PP Arnold of the little I know, but don't have that any of her material. I couldn't take to Sly and the Family Stone. Because of the GB, I bought working Man's Dead, but thought it was only ok. This is probably unfair to judge a band on one album, because I really like Gerry Garcia's version of TNTDODD.


Entered at Mon Feb 20 10:22:40 CET 2017 from (173.3.48.112)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: RR committed treason against the U.S.

Apparently Twitler did behave like a traditional Republican Presidential candidate. See the link.


Entered at Mon Feb 20 06:49:14 CET 2017 from (116.74.88.149)

Posted by:

sam

Web: My link

great stuff


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Springsteen played a concert near where I live the other day. I didn't go because I thought it was too expensive. Anyway, it rained a lot so they started with Who'll Stop the Rain. Sounds pretty good.


Entered at Sun Feb 19 19:03:17 CET 2017 from (88.91.154.148)

Posted by:

Dag

Location: over here
Web: My link

Subject: Pasadena 1970

I was looking through California newspapers from 1969 at newspapers.com, trying to find an exact date for the 'Pasadena 1969' tape but couldn't find anything. Could it be that the recording is from the afternoon or evening show in Pasadena on January 24, 1970? (see the link for the LA Times review)


Entered at Sun Feb 19 16:16:41 CET 2017 from (24.114.70.214)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: Sorry. I should've thanked you rather than Wallsend.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Brahms & Lists: Another 20

All on 45 here:

The Weight- The Band

Strawberry Fields Forever- The Beatles

A Whiter Shade of Pale- Procul Harum

Waterloo Sunset – The Kinks

Ain’t Too Proud To Beg – The Temptations

Ev’ryday People- Sly & The Family Stone

First Cut Is The Deepest – P.P. Arnold

Eight Miles High – The Byrds

I Heard It Through The Grapevine- Marvin Gaye

White Rabbit- Jefferson Airplane

Honky Tonk Women – The Rolling Stones

Out of Time – Chris Farlowe

Pretty Flamingo- Manfred Man

Keep On Running – Spencer Davis Group

California Dreamin’ – Mamas & The Papas

For What It’s Worth – Buffalo Springfield

Uncle John’s Band – The Grateful Dead

Goin’ Back – Dusty Springfield

Good Vibrations – The Beach Boys

Fakin’ It – Simon & Garfunkel



Entered at Sun Feb 19 13:36:39 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Dunc, just checked through and the only 45 I don't have in your list is The Marvellettes "When You're Young And In Love" … but I have it on LP and CD. I'll have to add "More essential late 60s 45s."


Entered at Sun Feb 19 12:34:51 CET 2017 from (86.171.129.19)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: oops

Oops. My Kim and Marvin selection is 'It Takes Two'. I've linked it to make you feel good today.


Entered at Sun Feb 19 12:24:09 CET 2017 from (86.171.129.19)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: American 60s greats

Still really enjoying the Cd collection. Just spent a couple of months playing through the American Cds. I never got into the Band until the 70s, apart from Rag Mama Rag, which I owned as a single. These were the great American songs that I bought in the sixties. No rock snobbery here and diverse. Some great acts missing, but there's a limit to what you can buy.

The Band - Rag, Mama Rag, had never heard of The Weight, which never broke into the top twenty...and yes i know four fifths were Canadians.

Righteous Brothers - Lost That Loving Feeling, huge hit over here.

Simon and Garfunkle - Mrs Robinson, began to worry about the girlfriend's mum.

Bob Dylan - Lay Lady Lay, this was the song that took me into Bob, and how did these lyrics get played on the BBC at this time.

Aretha Franklin - I Say A Little Prayer, never knew this was Soul at the time.

Johnny Cash - A Boy Named Sue - still love this song and smile every time it is played.

Marvin Gaye and Kim Weston, still love and play the Marvin Gaye duets.

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - The Onion Song, too soon gone.

The Four Tops - Walk Away Renee, four great voices, brilliant production.

The Byrds - Mr Tambourine Man,young when I bought it and never had heard of Bob at this time, beginning of a life long affection for The Byrds.

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bad Moon Rising, lucky to heve seen John Fogerty in concert.

Dionne Warwick - I Say A little Prayer, really enjoy the music of Burt Baccharach.

The Box Tops - The Letter, still play the best of the Box Tops regularly.

The Beach Boys - God Only knows, it's a cliche now, but the phrase 'one of the really great songs' is always said about this song.

Canned Heat - Goin Up The Country -chose this above another two great songs.

Roger Miller - King Of The Road, everybody in Scotland loves this song.

Four Seasons - Let's hang On, who doesn't like the Jersey boys.

Lovin' Spoonful - Daydream - play their greatest his all the time. Do You Believe In Magic? is the favourite now, but it wasn't a hit over here.

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles - Tracks Of My Tears, just beat Tears of A Clwn, two outstanding tracks.

The Marvellettes - When You're Young And In love, the hairs on the back of my neck still rise when I hear this.

Otis Redding - Sittin On The Dock Of The Bay, outstanding and a little unusual, bought when Tamla dominated soul up here.

Scott McKenzie -San Francisco, wanted to go there - something to do with the girls' long hair and headbands.

So these would all do me on a desert island. Never had an album in the house at the time. All bought for 6/8 as singles. Still play them now on Cd.


Entered at Sun Feb 19 05:26:39 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Location: Ronnie Hawkins

I'm with Westcoaster on Ronnie Hawkins, at least in recordings. I never saw him perform and from everything I've read and understood live performing was his great strength. The musical arrangements of his Bo Diddley covers were their strength I thought, not so much his singing part, same with The Last Waltz job - especially compared to Bo. Is this sacrilege here?

Does anybody know how Jan H's son did at the Grammys?


Entered at Sun Feb 19 02:56:22 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What was it???

BILL!!!!! What have you been drinkin'?.......or smokin' boy. Read yer last post again.

"Home from the Forest"..... never liked the way Hawkins did that song, but then I've never been much of a Ronnie Hawkins fan anyway.

I sang that song for many years.....many of Gord's songs actually.


Entered at Sun Feb 19 02:15:55 CET 2017 from (24.114.70.214)

Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend: thanks the the broadside quote. It explains the puzzling early draft of one of Gord's big songs (which Ronnie soon took to the top of the local charts:

"His eyes were red, his hopes were dead
And the wine was running low
As that Ochs man stumbled home from the forest"


Entered at Sat Feb 18 19:47:54 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Ronnie Hawkins, Gordon Lightfoot and Phil Ochs

The 15 July 1965 issue of New York's BROADSIDE ('The National Topical Song Magazine') contained an article by Phil Ochs entitled, "The Ballad of Gordon Lightfoot". The opening paragraph went as follows:

"There I was in Canada, stoned out of my mind at 5:00 in the morning, swapping songs, jokes and bottles with Ronnie Hawkins, the Arkansas rock 'n roll singer who runs an out of sight bar in Toronto, and Gordon Lightfoot, who is the Canadian Hank Williams".


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Sweden's biggest band

NWC: So that's what ABBA's aged into! Very sobering no matter what, but please don't tell me the bearded one is one of the 'girls'.


Entered at Sat Feb 18 00:31:09 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Tenn, I think those "Cash" T-shirts mean "Cash only - no credit cards" though I'm not sure what business the wearers are in.


Entered at Fri Feb 17 20:32:19 CET 2017 from (66.87.153.145)

Posted by:

BWNWITenn

There's a new country band that just signed with Sony Nashville named Levon. Named after, according to them, both Mr. Helm and the Elton John song (it's already not looking encouraging). I have not heard their music, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. It's become de rigueur for country artists to name check legendary, iconic musicians as some sort of attempt at proving authenticity, despite the fact that their own music almost never bears any resemblance to that of said icon. Half of the musicians in Nashville walk around wearing shirts that say "Cash," even though they sound more influenced by Justin Timberlake than Johnny Cash.

There's also a country group called Farewell Angelina, named after the Dylan song. They at least deserve some credit for knowing a fairly obscure Dylan song.

I continue to patiently await the arrival of a band named Back With Our Wives in Tennessee.


Entered at Fri Feb 17 17:17:51 CET 2017 from (83.249.174.92)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Rockin Chair

Hate to be "besserwisser" but Rockin Chair is spelled as Rocking Cher.


Entered at Fri Feb 17 17:10:21 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What is THIS??????????

Ronald Handerson?? Just copied a post I made quite a while back. What is with these donkeys who try to gain some attention to get people to look at their link. Can't we shoot'em????......we should be able to shoot'EM!!

Kleenex is spelt with a "K"............crazy old Scandahoovian!


(spam post, from a donkey that should be shot, deleted)

Entered at Fri Feb 17 15:25:48 CET 2017 from (83.249.174.92)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Sweden's greatest rock band

For fifteen years ago my true friend NORBERT said to me: "You must tell about these guys in gb." The time was not right. Now I have retired and they have retired. Now the time is right. - This is "The Last Watz" in Swedish. As their teacher I told to some of these guys in late 80s about "The Last Waltz" and Woodstock and I am happy to watch their own last waltz film after thirty years.

You'll see nostalgic footages on the schoolyard (actually, this band was formed in the cafeteria of Mrs. NWC's college, but who cares? ;-) She can't watch the tears of the fans without a package of Cleenex.

There are all kinds of problems with thse videos from Swedish public service television. Post your complaints here and I'll try to help.

Enjoy this heart warming film. The genre is INDIE... just like my favourite student Sammy (the millionaire mega rock star) said for awhile ago: "I want to be INDIE again!" So true Sammy. I want also to be a young progressive teacher in the 80s again and a sex symbol for female students. We'll never be, Sammy.

It's time to listen to vinyl LP "Sgt Ppprs Lnl Hrts Clb Bnd" and "When I'm Sixty Four". And sorry my friend Bill: This was not about "Sputniks"...


Entered at Fri Feb 17 13:40:12 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Odd, the Guardian story is dated today. I read the similar tale 2 or 3 weeks ago with the same headline "Billionaire's Bolthole" … it could have been Guardian (Friday), Telegraph (Saturday) or Sunday Times (Sunday). I thought the last.


Entered at Fri Feb 17 12:20:29 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: N.Z.

I was more concerned by the link to the story about PayPal's boss getting N.Z.citizenship without meeting ANY of the normal requirements.


Entered at Fri Feb 17 05:32:43 CET 2017 from (114.75.197.107)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Not really Band related but may be of interest to any Band fans in the US looking for a place to escape to.


Entered at Thu Feb 16 20:01:59 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Dylan's new Grammy

When a brief television report came on about the recent Grammy awards, I told my wife that Dylan had won one, saying that it was something like Category 68 or whatever.

"Heaviest Album of the Year?", she asked.


Entered at Thu Feb 16 17:13:19 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Speaking of Vinyl

Probably only Canadians and particularly Eastern Canadians would know this fellow, but this is sad and note worthy. Stuart McClean a radio personality who operated his radio show "Vinyl Café" a much loved story teller has passed.

My Susan loved to listen to his show and his stories as we drove up or down island because our CBC radio is all we could get most of the drive.

Stuart was a wonderful man who promoted local talent always and his stories were of the small town local people. I'm sure people like Dunc, Peter and some of our friends from down under would love to listen to Stuart's stories. He will most certainly be missed.


Entered at Thu Feb 16 14:55:25 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

A new "new vinyl" shop just opened in the centre of Bournemouth too. Recently saw another new "new vinyl" shop in Frome. It's growing …


Entered at Thu Feb 16 12:10:24 CET 2017 from (31.48.6.211)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Collecting music

Here's a link to Levon and John singing "Rock, Salt and Nails".

The remaining CD/vinyl shop in my town was taken over by a guy, who works at the university.

There is a big change with the shop being largely given over to vinyl and collectors of vinyl are going in. A younger crowd. Also selling Rega turntables. There's a bit of thought with more less well known CDs too. I bought a CSNY concert, which I had never seen before, but I have too many cds.

When I was there, I saw a guy half my age pay £200 for a vinyl record. It was still wrapped in polythene. Never got a look at what the record was. Never seen that before.

The young girl working in the shop told me that they were doing well - they had sold 8cds and 15 vinyl albums that Wednesday.

This is in a town where they will have to rework the town centre. There are many beautiful victorian buildings and a beautiful medieval abbey, some good pubs, restaurants and cafes and a university, but there are too many empty shops, pubs and banks now. \Well I'm off to grandads and toddlers sledging this afternoon. I'm not at the cutting edge of rock and roll now.


Entered at Thu Feb 16 11:19:47 CET 2017 from (31.48.6.211)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Perfect album

My favourite album just now is 'No Little Boy' by John Martyn which is basically John Martyn reworking some of his classic songs.

He is helped by backing singers including Phil Collins (very good) on a couple of tracks and other musicians including Gerry Conway on drums and David Gilmour on guitar on a couple of tracks.

Levon Helm, sings harmony vocals on 'Just Now' which I've linked and joint vocals on 'Rock Salt and Nails' where he plays drums too.

The sax playing by Andy Sheppard and Gerry Underwood is outstanding.

The band musicians, Spencer Cousins and Alan Thomson are brilliant too.

Great songs.

It had a long history to get released. The record company issued the session tapes without John's knowledge on an album "Couldn't Love You More". He was furious and on this album some of the songs on "Couldn't Love You More' were omitted and others remixed!"

Every song is brilliant and all are written by John apart from the brilliant "Rock Salt and Nails".

An added bonus for me is of course Levon's singing on two tracks. On "Rock, Salt and Nails", "Levon Helm was sitting on a stool tapping his foot and singing between long drags from a cigarette! John stood with his eyes closed delivering his soulful indistinct ethereal vocals." "The music is beautiful and Martyn is in fine voice throughout" wrote Q Magazine.


Entered at Thu Feb 16 11:11:31 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

There have been studies of personal space /crowding. You can film a large gathering and judge by how close people are standing whether they live in cities or suburbs or rural areas.

It's also nationality related. The example I saw was a camera watching a Brazilian talking to an American (not big city). The Brazilian stood at his comfortable distance which was within the American's "comfort zone" so the American stepped back slightly. Whereupon the Brazilian felt the distance "cold" so stepped forward, causing the American to step back. In a ten minute conversation they crossed a large room at a reception diagonally.

There are notes of national preferences "wrist distant" cultures,then forearm, elbow and shoulder distance cultures.


Entered at Thu Feb 16 04:22:15 CET 2017 from (114.75.203.231)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Definitely the idea of 'crowded' is relative. When I was a kid we would go for a picnic and if there was anyone within 500 metres we would move because there were too many people. Later I lived in Tokyo where, if there is no one within a metre of you, you feel you have a lot of space. "Sardines, yogurt and half an apple for supper, shared with a young woman from Calgary." in the Arrowtown trailer park, sounds like paradise to me.


Entered at Thu Feb 16 03:47:57 CET 2017 from (24.114.68.30)

Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend: You make the overcrowding in NZ sound so dire - but 4.5 humans in a country that's bigger that Great Britain, which does a pretty good job of feeling pretty empty in large patches.

Still, it's nice to see the place mentioned as it was paradise on earth when I was there for six months in '81/'82. Funny, but just days ago I found a photo of me in a trailer park in Arrowtown. Sardines, yogurt and half an apple for supper, shared with a young woman from Calgary.

Doug: Thanks for the Ritchie Yorke obit. An amazing story, that guy. But what struck me was the idea of a blues fest (or anything really) in Byron Bay. Of course I only saw it in '82, when I stumbled into town the day after s shark took a surfer there. I'd missed the news, so was puzzled by the fact that nobody was in the water but me.


Entered at Thu Feb 16 01:35:10 CET 2017 from (203.10.111.131)

Posted by:

Doug

Subject: sorry ,Wetton not Whetton


Entered at Thu Feb 16 01:31:13 CET 2017 from (203.10.111.131)

Posted by:

Doug

Web: My link

Have just read Peter's tribute to John Whetton. Thanks for making that available here. hmm, a bassist who sings and plays a bit of violin - where have I heard that before.

Link is an obit from Sydney Morning Herald for rock journalist Ritchie Yorke who has a Canadian connection, with a brief mention of Ronnie H.


Entered at Wed Feb 15 17:05:14 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

When I did my "Best of 2016" someone suggested Sturgill Simpson's "A Sailor's Guide to Earth" as one of the Best of 2016. I got it. It's only just being promoted heavily in the UK now. I've been playing it a lot. Don't think any tracks fall below first-rate.


Entered at Wed Feb 15 16:39:50 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Feat!

Nothin like "Red Gumbo".........leave me alone...Igot things to do here!


Entered at Wed Feb 15 16:13:36 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Trouble

My favourite track on Sailing Shoes.


Entered at Wed Feb 15 16:10:36 CET 2017 from (86.31.229.95)

Posted by:

Roger Woods

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: John Wetton - thanks PV

Peter - well done. I've just improved the shining hour reading your fantastic article about John Wetton. I learned lots of things about my own history in Bournemouth. We have certainly been in audiences together at gigs in 60s and 70s.

One slight correction. John's headmaster - who was yours and mine - could never have been accused of explaining that playing in a band would lead to nowhere. He never EXPLAINED anything, no doubt seeing it as a sign of weakness. His habit was to state, tell, order, browbeat, bully, yell and shout. Don't recall him ever explaining.


Entered at Wed Feb 15 15:34:38 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

lee again

Subject: Sailin' Shoes

Hmm. Teenage Nervous Breakdown might list the boat if not sink the ship. Trouble and A Apolitical Blues is are obvious throw-ins, but both are memorable, charming Lowell. Let the jury decide.

Rodney Crowell's "Ain't Livin' Long Like This"?


Entered at Wed Feb 15 15:25:24 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Dr. Sardonicus

Bill, The Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus is an AWESOME record. RELEASED in 1970, likely recorded earlier, it had both and artistic and sonic quality far ahead of its time. Good choice!


Entered at Wed Feb 15 15:17:13 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Good thread, but it needs ground rules. I reckon we're looking for albums where every song's a klller, but not themed albums where tracks work together like What's Going On? or Sergeant Pepper or Village Green Preservation Society … on those everything works because it's related. So we seek the"filler fee" "dud free" "mediocrity free" set of songs.

Natalie Merchant (2014).


Entered at Wed Feb 15 15:11:39 CET 2017 from (24.114.56.151)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bassmanlee: 12 Dreams of Dr Sardonicus.


Entered at Wed Feb 15 14:51:38 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Lee, "Sailing Shoes"?


Entered at Wed Feb 15 14:48:42 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: The Perfect Album

The other day I was listening to Little Feat's "Feats Don't Fail Me Now" and marveled that this was in a sense a perfect album (the "album" increasingly becoming a lost art form). All killer, no filler. Every song worth the price of admission. How many other records meet this criteria? "Who's Next"? "Revolver"? Certainly the Brown Album qualifies.

Reflect, review, discuss...(It's been too slow in here lately)


Entered at Tue Feb 14 23:39:53 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Since my John Wetton tribute went up, people have sent more photos, and Richard Palmer and Bob Jenkins from the early bands sent me more quotes. It's quit considerably updated (see link).


Entered at Tue Feb 14 23:26:51 CET 2017 from (114.75.195.126)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Rod, I am envious, I love the Arrowtown area although that is one of the places I think has been spoilt by housing developments.


Entered at Tue Feb 14 21:08:33 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Rod, the link you posted didn't work for me but I've been listening to Barry Saunders on you tube. He's really good. Thanks for the response.


Entered at Tue Feb 14 20:41:41 CET 2017 from (210.86.91.201)

Posted by:

Rod

Yes immigration has been very strong here. I work in IT and I'd say at least 50% of the people I work with are from overseas. The big losers are our graduates from Universties and Polytechs who are struggling to get into the industry. Another major downside is that house prices have gone through the roof. That started in Auckland but has spread to other centres as well.Funny you mention Queenstown Wallsend. I'm off down to Arrowtown today (about 20 mins from Qtown). My partners family built a holiday house there in the 1960s but there's no way people like us would ever be able to afford to do that now.


Entered at Tue Feb 14 18:57:56 CET 2017 from (114.75.195.126)

Posted by:

Wallsend

There has always been a lot on hanky panky down under but unfortunately the population increase is due to immigration and a capitalist desire for continual growth.


Entered at Tue Feb 14 15:59:27 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

What's causing it, Wallsend? Immigration? Or natural growth? That is, is there too much hanky-panky going on …er … down under?


Entered at Tue Feb 14 10:49:59 CET 2017 from (114.75.192.99)

Posted by:

Wallsend

When I was a kid, New Zealand had a population of 2 million now it is 4.5 million. Even though the extra people are mainly in Auckland, I think the increase in numbers have spoilt the country. In the old days we would go to places like Wanaka and Queenstown and they were just little country towns with hardly any tourists but now it is too commercialised.


Entered at Tue Feb 14 09:56:23 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Rod, the newspapers here were much excited a couple of weeks ago by the mega-rich super billionaires from the USA buying estates in New Zealand. Apparently a combination of Trump-dislike with fear of a world wide war. 53,000 other US citizens took a look at the immigration website immediately post Trump, and 7000 asked for papers. Last week I think it said 13,000 applications from America so far.

I remember thinking the same when the kids were young, and I heard EFL / ESL schools were doing well there. The safest civilized place in a world war. Then I read a sci-fi story post apocalyptic war, and New Zealand does survive … but then all the American, Russian and British nuclear submarines turn up in the harbour. It’d make a good film.


Entered at Tue Feb 14 08:53:20 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Whispering Pines: the Wonder of Wiki

Just looked up Whispering Pines … five of them. North Carolina, Arizona, Florida, two in California. None of them are on The Hawks Ontario-Oklahoma route. It’s also a Native American given name and a B-side song by Johnny Horton, from 1959, just before his biggest hit Battle of New Orleans. The Carolina one looks like a golf resort, so hopefully is not the inspiration.

I’d guess that as several people have collocated whispering + pines (maybe not as often as lonesome + pines), there’s no particular connection, though a road sign can stick in the head. As can a Johnny Horton B-side.

Round here, the common collocations are f*cking + pine + needles as the garden is full of them.


Entered at Tue Feb 14 06:32:06 CET 2017 from (210.86.91.201)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

Bob F, I haven't seen that series but Barry Saunders is a great songwriter and performer. He's best known for his band The Warratahs. He also took part in TLW40th Annivesary Concert we had here back in Nov. He's a big fan of The Band. There's a clip of him somewhere talking about how the only album he had for a long time was Stage Fright. One if his songs, Holy Morning, even borrows Garth's intro to Daniel and the Sacred Harp.


Entered at Tue Feb 14 00:15:29 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Whispering Pines, North Carolina

Population 3,000. After nearly 50 years of listening I never knew there was a place! Although I'm pretty sure the song refers to a feeling and not a place. Right?


Entered at Mon Feb 13 22:32:10 CET 2017 from (67.84.77.53)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norm. It's called memory. I entered in 02. You weren't around. Steve joined the proceedings the following year. I'm pretty sure Steve arrived before you. Memory. Cause you are so memorable. Though my memory sometimes fades, it's accurate on that much. When you entered exactly, other than possibly in late 03, or in 04, i couldn't say. But Norbert didn't open till Jan shut down sometime in 03. I THINK the way it went, was Tracy was running Little Pink, till Norbert decided he would take the heat off Tracy, & she opted out, soon as Norbert opened shop.


Entered at Mon Feb 13 21:04:14 CET 2017 from (136.167.102.146)

Posted by:

Dave H

Wallsend: I think you're referring to Joni Mitchell's singing on "Helpless" at TLW; she was standing behind a curtain so the audience couldn't see her (though there's a shot of her there in the movie). Sounds like she misses a few high notes near the end of the song that must have been mixed out of the official releases.


Entered at Mon Feb 13 19:02:18 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The PYTHONS!!......"The Meaining of Life"

BassmanLee! If the Pythons were active just now they would have a field day with what goes on now. Have you seen Stephen Miller sounding off?

The scene I have attached, (Drill Sargent scene) smacks of some of the crazies we have to listen to these days. Just now as Susan and I had our brunch we were discussing this. I just brought her in the study to our desks and showed her this clip. I think the old gal near wet herself.

Listen closely to the explanation at the beginning. Is it not the way things are with the travel ban just now.

In 2002 or 3 Norbert was operating his Guest Book. Don't know if he is archived into this website. Some people have to "research" just to prove they are right.....about "everything".......funny habit.


Entered at Mon Feb 13 17:49:17 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Vocals and Big Noise

Peter, Garth vocals were always "OFF". Rumor has it, so were Robbie's!

For those on the US East coast, news this past week that David Bromberg's Big Noise one-day fest is being resurrected. Chris Robinson (Black Crows), Dr. John, Anders Osborne, Larry Campbell & Theresa Williams, and a band called Front Country. And Lonesome Dave himself with the Big Band. May 20 in the park right next to the Wilmington, DE train station. Mrs. Lee says to get tickets ASAP.


Entered at Mon Feb 13 17:33:48 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: The Brokenwood Mysteries

Has anybody else seen this great New Zealand television series The Brokenwood Mysteries? It's a great show with great country flavored songs sprinkled throughout each episode. I wasn't familiar with any of the music but everything is way better then anything coming out of Nashville. Check out this one song Here Comes Tomorrow.


Entered at Mon Feb 13 17:29:40 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Colin Fleming's review was going well until he mentioned "Garth Hudson's vocals".


Entered at Mon Feb 13 15:31:53 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: Just south of there
Web: My link

Subject: Philly Inquirer Testimony Review

Don't know who Colin Fleming is, or whether this has appeared elsewhere, but a somewhat different spin on Robbie's book.


Entered at Mon Feb 13 07:07:38 CET 2017 from (114.75.204.157)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I was just watching the Wolfgang's Vault version of Helpless from TLW and in the chorus, especially towards the end, you can hear someone harmonising that doesn't seem to match up with anybody singing on screen. It doesn't sound so good so at first I thought it must be Robbie but I was wondering whether it was Richard singing in falsetto. Any thoughts?


Entered at Mon Feb 13 01:29:59 CET 2017 from (74.12.49.100)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Band and Trump collide on SNL

Saturday Night Live's phony Sean Spicer listed "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" listed as one of the terrorist massacres that the press had failed to cover.


Entered at Mon Feb 13 01:21:04 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: John Wetton

PV - Thanks loads for that and the obvious work you put into it. The historical aspects were were so damn interesting. I listened to all the clips and have gone back to find and hear a lot of the stuff mentioned.


Entered at Sun Feb 12 22:38:57 CET 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Hollands first Band fan died.

Tjakkie Sterk († 1936 – 2017), Hollands first Band fan died last night peacefully in his bed.

Mr. Sterk lived all his life in East Groningen, the grimmest, uttermost part of The Netherlands. From a young age on he worked as a farm hand, the hard labor on the rough land had bent him. All his life he lived alone in a little house not far from the Wadden Sea. He was somewhat private, we only know he was a member of the communist party for a few years. Anyway he was the first one that bought a Band record in The Netherlands, for which he cycled 105 miles.

R.I.P. Tjakkie Sterk.


Entered at Sun Feb 12 20:40:15 CET 2017 from (86.171.26.82)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: John Wetton

This one's for Peter...and all lovers of great music.

John Wetton is great on this Family great semi acoustic version of 'Holding the Compass' on German tv.


Entered at Sun Feb 12 15:34:53 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Peter's tribute blog

I really enjoyed reading it, Peter - so much more than a tribute.


Entered at Sun Feb 12 13:51:12 CET 2017 from (86.171.26.82)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks, Peter

Really enjoyed the tribute to John, Peter. It is truly a celebration of a great musician's life. I have a picture of John in a double CD Family collection. I love "In My Own Time". Strangely, my sons used to play Supertramp

In addition I connected with the article in so many ways. It is a trip through different eras - at my university I saw many emerging bands not the top bands, the importance of the folk club - Davey Graham's performance stays in my mind, grotty bedsits, but they were cheap, dangerous gas fires, the downside of alcohol - a problem up here.

love Molly Duncan and Roger Ball, not being able to change money leaving Hungary - went back into the country and had the most magnificent meal ever, Dundee ballrooms, didn't understand the Graham Bond organisation, loved seeing Keith Moon at his peak, soul music, the Renaissance album was in a flat I was in.

The dress and hair. I remember my mate carrying a tray of six pints in a hard pub in the local area. He was wearing loon pants with home made inserts(too much!). And tripped on them soaking a table of the local neds to be met with shouts of "See you f---ing hippies!"

Thanks for the article, one of the best posts ever to appear on the GB. Beautifully written with great anecdotes A real celebration of a friend's life, which has got me thinking of my past times. A life without music, not worth living. The article deserves a wider audience. Thanks, Peter.


Entered at Sat Feb 11 23:02:44 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.2)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Which band?


Entered at Sat Feb 11 22:48:29 CET 2017 from (62.251.71.189)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: The Band Axiom

Is talking about The Band waiting for Godot?

Or is The Band still there where two or three gather in its name?


Entered at Sat Feb 11 22:33:17 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.2)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jan's kid Magnus, a.k.a Cashmere Cat, is up for Grammys manana.


Entered at Sat Feb 11 20:28:10 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Peter, loved your article on John. So much great music. Great timeline. Some of the music you mentioned I have of course and I've been playing this afternoon. Beautiful music and the article is beautifully written. I hope you don't mind I sent the link to Expecting Rain.


Entered at Sat Feb 11 19:28:30 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Radio 2 Awards

Thanks Ian. Al Stewart is mentioned in the John Wetton tribute a couple of times. A lot I don't know in the nominees, but I'd guess Roll Away from Flit, and Flit will do well. New Eliza Carthy is very good … listening to it now.


Entered at Sat Feb 11 18:00:54 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: BBC Radio 2 Folk Awards - Al Stewart

This is really for Peter V.

Al Stewart is to get the Lifetime Achievement Award this year. I'm not sure if you're aware but, just in case not and from a previous exchange of ours, I thought you'd like to know.



Entered at Sat Feb 11 17:33:29 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: John Wetton RIP

My tribute article is now up (linked). This is long and has a lot on the early days so may be of general interest on 60s and 70s British rock scene.


Entered at Sat Feb 11 01:01:59 CET 2017 from (24.114.68.236)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bones: Thanks for the nod and for telling us about the KofC reissue.


Entered at Fri Feb 10 17:45:26 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: I'll Stand By You Always

Al Edge & other Bruce fans, check out this demo from 2001. This is the song he submitted for the Harry Potter film that wasn't used. Gorgeous.


Entered at Fri Feb 10 17:02:24 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.16)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norm, there was no sighting of you in 02. Possibly you ran ashore in 03. Maybe 04.


Entered at Fri Feb 10 15:44:28 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Band Website

I am trying to remember, I think it was around 2001 or 2 when I first found this website.

The point of this post is to acknowledge the many long lasting friends I have had the good fortune to find here. (Some no longer with us.)

This morning I received an e mail from my friend Nux in South Africa. I had sent him my CD for a Christmas present. His very positive response to this brought a tear to my eye.

Thanks Nux, so happy you enjoy. Keep up the good music. Through some rough times and very bitter disagreements here it has always been a very worth while experience here with many very knowledgeable people. Really do miss many like David Powell and too many more to name.


Entered at Fri Feb 10 10:08:20 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Chuck Prophet

I'm going to get "Bobby Fuller Died For Your Sins" on its title alone! Thanks Bob F. I've been listening to the Something Else tribute disc to The Kinks, and Chuck Prophet makes a good job of "Situation Vacant."

I Fought the Law by Bobby Fuller was a song every garage band in my area used to cover.

I nearly bought Status Quo's "In Search of the Fourth Chord" because it was a brilliant album title.


Entered at Fri Feb 10 10:03:40 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: King of Comedy

At last! Though I can't understand why Robbie didn't put Between Trains on Testimony (making it a more attractive proposition). I have the original LP, bought new. The OST also contains Wonderful Remark by Van Morrison produced by Robbie. It was rare for years too, but was on "The Best of Van Morrison. It had been hanging around for ten years … the original 1973 demo eventually emerged too, first on bootleg. Robbie improved it and focussed it.

My favourite Pretenders song, Back on The Chain Gang opens the King of Comedy OST, and you get Swamp from Talking Heads and Rainbow Sleeve from Rickie Lee Jones.

On OSTs, no sign of the "Silence" OST on amazon yet. I still haven't seen the film, but Shutter Island was such a great Robbie compiled OST. It's been a most depressing January in many ways, and every time I've suggested going to see Silence, we've thought about it, and it sounds even more depressing and violent and on the only day since Christmas we went to the cinema, we chose La-La Land as an uplifting one. Now it's a case of the second run community cinemas showing it. Already gone from the multiplexes.

It's a shame, because most films are only a pale shadow on blu-ray at home, in spite of a decent 5.1 system.

Has anyone yet worked out any logic in the Testimony CD sequencing? I can't. It might as well be in alphabetical order for sense. Bruce's equivalent was sensibly chronological.


Entered at Fri Feb 10 03:19:26 CET 2017 from (107.13.229.187)

Posted by:

Bones

It's been a while since I've posted but I still check in regularly, so I'm pleased that old guard members like Peter V and Bill M are still here keeping us on track. I haven't seen any mention of it, so I feel compelled to mention that the King of Comedy Soundtrack which Robbie produced has finally been released on cd by Wounded Bird Records. If for no other reason reason, all Band fans should pick it up for "Between Trains" which Robbie, Garth and Richard played on.


Entered at Fri Feb 10 00:12:45 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck Prophet

I'm really enjoying the new Chuck Prophet. Check it out on NPR's First Listen. Chuck wrote one of the all time great summer songs years ago called It's A Summer Time Thing. His new record is called Bobby Fuller Died For Your Sins.


Entered at Thu Feb 9 23:48:39 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Lee, I'm so glad you liked it. I had the same reaction at first. Once I got into it I found it so emotional. Just loved the characters. My son teaches middle school english. I got him a copy and I'm like this is what you should have your students reading. lol He promised to read it during spring break. Yeah sure.

Thanks for the tip on Drew Holcomb. I like what I'm hearing.


Entered at Thu Feb 9 22:40:16 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.221)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

"Sam Cooke said this when told he had a beautiful voice: He said, 'Well that's very kind of you, but voices ought not to be measured by how pretty they are. Instead they matter only if they convince you that they are telling the truth.' Think about that..." - Bob Dylan


Entered at Thu Feb 9 20:51:32 CET 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

Sorry, the first interview (with Sheelagh Rogers, the host) is with Leonard. The one that follows is with Denise Donlon.


Entered at Thu Feb 9 20:46:30 CET 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

Web: My link

Subject: Leonard Cohen

Okay, here's something. I caught a repeat of this interview a while ago, and it inspired me to ask for "The Book of Longing" for my birthday. Now, with some exceptions, I've never been a huge poetry fan, but I'm really loving this book.

I've always had a complicated relationship with Leonard Cohen, as right from the time I first heard him sing (I believe it was "Suzanne") I just could never take him seriously as a singer. It was kind of a case of "I cain't take the way he sings, but I love to hear him talk". But Leonard the person, and the poet ... well ... I suspect Leonard had a special appeal to women because he was so obviously a man who loved women, and who loved the company of women (lengthy stints in monasteries aside). This is actually a pretty rare quality, and one which most women immediately recognize - you can't help but warm to a man like that.

The interview which is linked is with Denise Donlon, a well-known personality on the Canadian music scene, who relates a quite charming story about this dear man, if you have time to listen.

And further, there's a song by Nancy White, called "Leonard Cohen's Never Gonna Bring My Groceries In" which might not be familiar outside of Canada, which will bring a smile to any face. Nancy White used to write political satirical songs (I think I remember her having a regular spot on one of the CBC Sunday morning programs), and she is very funny, very clever. I can't seem to copy the song, but maybe someone better at this could find it and post it.


Entered at Thu Feb 9 19:48:49 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Fredrik Bakman

Bob F, just finished listening Fredrik Bakman's "My Grandmother Asked Me To Tell You She's Sorry". Took a little bit to get into it, partly because of the fairy tale words, which sound similar. But really liked it - enough to order a hardback copy from my local page pusher. Hoping he will take a look at it and maybe add to his stock, which is mostly fantasy, sci-fi, graphic novels, etc. I think it fits. Thanks for the recommendation.

While at the library, picked up a disk "Medicine" by Drew Holcolmb & The Neighbors. Still on the first listen, but not too shabby. Research shows that this is far from their first record. How come I've never heard of them? (Other than that I seldom listen to the radio.)

It's too quiet in here. C'mon guys, surely there is something non-political we can talk about. Like music.


Entered at Thu Feb 9 03:24:26 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.240)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Senator Iron Balls & President Shit Gibbon.

See the link. Maybe Senator Daylin Leach is of Scottish heritage.


Entered at Wed Feb 8 20:53:23 CET 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Sorry. Political rant

yi yi yi yi

I deleted the rant. Served no purpose.


Entered at Wed Feb 8 17:24:15 CET 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Joke

Why did Beethoven kill his chicken? It kept saying,"Bach,Bach,Bach."


Entered at Wed Feb 8 16:54:46 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.240)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

What do you call a hot chick on the arm of a trombone player?

A tattoo


Entered at Wed Feb 8 11:56:15 CET 2017 from (114.75.196.252)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Spinal Tap to sue.


Entered at Wed Feb 8 10:08:41 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

We all miss the Pythons. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!


Entered at Tue Feb 7 14:23:39 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: Not Pakistan
Web: My link

Subject: SPAM

I mean, really, they haven't noticed that their (same) IP address appears on every post?

Ah, I sure miss the Pythons (see link).


Entered at Tue Feb 7 13:44:34 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Pakispam

All this spam originate at "39" or Pakistan. Why do they think putting UK or USA is going to fool anyone? We have no posters in Pakistan anyway.

It's like those junk phone calls which are obviously from India with a weather checker open, and they begin "Hello, it is raining cats and dogs here in Brighton."


Entered at Mon Feb 6 20:52:15 CET 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Garth Hudson -- live Genetic Method/Chest Fever, 2017!

...From Charlie's link! Putting it here so it doesn't get missed.


Entered at Mon Feb 6 20:48:08 CET 2017 from (114.75.199.188)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

The original version of Down South in New Orleans which I had not heard before.


Entered at Mon Feb 6 19:03:42 CET 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Garth

A great show indeed and Garths playing was,as always,spectacular.Kudos to Warren Haynes(Allmans,Government Mule)for organizing this Waltz tour.This show can be found and streamed on the Mule Army site.


Entered at Mon Feb 6 16:23:54 CET 2017 from (108.44.202.142)

Posted by:

Charlie Y.

Location: Down in Old Virginny
Web: My link

Subject: Garth in DC for the 40th Anniversary TLW Tour

I'm so glad I was able to see Garth's performance at the final evening of the 40th anniversary "Last Waltz" tour in DC. I'd hesitated to buy a ticket since it was in a casino setting (which I loathe) and ridiculously expensive for a tribute concert. When I read Garth was going to be there, I HAD to go. His playing was as astonishing as the first time I heard him play live back in 1971 (see the link for more detail). Thanks for making that trip, Garth. It was the highlight of my year so far. Long may you play...


Entered at Mon Feb 6 04:41:57 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Breaking All the Records

I am not at all happy that Tom Brady has his head up Trump's ass. However I have been a New England fan for more years than Tom Brady.

What the Pats did tonight was a show of skill and determination. The Falcons have a defence that is like the "wall". The second half adjustments showed skill. The last drive of the over time was something to watch. Brady's offensive line were a wall. He had time to tie his shoes and decide who he was going to throw to. The team was as tight as you could ever ask for.

Speaking of records, last night I watched a documentary on Bob Marley. Some of you may have known, but I was unaware of the state of his fortune since his death. I can't remember all the stats, but he has broken so many records in record sales some of his albums have shattered records.

His fortune grows by about $200,000,000 annually. The fact that he has fathered eleven children by seven different women has become a nightmare. He didn't leave a will because his Rastafarian religion did not allow that.

His estate is worth just over or just under one billion dollars. His record sales and royalties just continue to grow. Ie - yi - yi - yi -yi!


Entered at Mon Feb 6 04:25:59 CET 2017 from (184.1.211.176)

Posted by:

Canada Steinholdt

I think she should too. Fuck America. Fuck Canada. Fuck Australia too Oh, finally remember why I'm here. Got me a copy of Robbie's "Testimony" Bought it for a penny in the second-hand area of Amazon just like I expected to, uJst like any good Jew do. I find it to be rather.. ah, maybe.. ahh, he ain't tellin' the true truth again. Made me think like maybe the guy has this that some problems with his memory or maybe he's just a liar


Entered at Mon Feb 6 03:37:18 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.240)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

The Pats are getting creamed.
The Superbowl must be rigged. It must be rigged bigly.
Odds are Twitler invades Atlanta tomorrow,, or minimally tries to cu off federal funding to Atlanta.


Entered at Sun Feb 5 22:13:42 CET 2017 from (114.75.198.219)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I think Canada should build a wall and make the US pay for it.


Entered at Sun Feb 5 22:10:09 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Trump and old friends and common ground

Jeff A - We're going though the same thing with some of my family and their support for Trump. Everybody has to decide these opinions become deal-breakers amongst old friends. I've parted, completely, with a friend from kindergarten, 62 years. He was always a bigot, as are so many of my boomer peers, but I always let it pass, for decades. He's added bitter resentments to his older personality traits and then all in for Trump. Things like this, that I've let pass throughout my lifetime, I'm seeing more clearly now and my previous appeasement policy was a mix of cowardice, hypocrisy and passivity.

Hopefully no more! This liberal tendency to look for common ground is a waste of time. Trump does not have a majority for support. I think we fight as hard as possible during his term and then get back on track in 2020 and try to reset and learn, learn, learn to make sure he wasn't anything but a serious hiccup on an otherwise pretty progressive era. And then make the Trumpers go back and get GEDs in history, civics and economics!


Entered at Sun Feb 5 21:33:55 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A Very STRONG! Resemblance

I wonder if anyone else has noticed? When Trump talks, and his method of operating is very much like the governor Mel Brooks portrayed in "Blazing Saddles"! I think he needs a jacket that has "PRES" ON THE BACK.


Entered at Sun Feb 5 21:17:40 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.240)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Surprisingly, I've given up a couple of friends who I've only been friends with a few years, who support Twitler. They still support him, agree with his steps as President, & got to the point where they became very rude & mean spirited in discussion. I can't get myself to talk to them for awhile now. Maybe one day. Though we were newish friends, they were pretty good friends.

One of my sisters & her husband love Trump, Steve Bannon, & Breitbart news. I don't understand how this could happen. She says- I couldn't be happier....I'm in heaven every day. ...This is my dream.
Having a intelligent conversation about facts & The Constitution relative to actual events & issues with her or her husband is impossible.


Entered at Sun Feb 5 20:37:47 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Norm, I loved the way Hell on Wheels ended.

It's really impossible at this point to have a conversation with the opposite side. It immediately becomes heated. What we've done in my family is made a hard rule of no political discussions at family gatherings. This past holiday season was great because of that rule. Last night we celebrated my sister's 75th birthday. Again, great time, no politics. It's the only was to go. Especially when you have young kids present. The last thing they need to hear is a bunch of old people screaming about the end of the world.

As far as Canada and America Norm, we're always going to be together. We're family.


Entered at Sun Feb 5 17:07:08 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hell On Wheels

Hi Bob F! A couple of days ago I received my DVD'S of the final episodes of the series. A thought came to mind as I watched the end. Some of the rhetoric from the long and arduous work and battles of the great accomplishment.

What is happening in the country today seems to be quite an insult to the centuries of building that country, and the people that built it, (mostly by "Immigrants").

I fear for what will happen between our countries in the near future because I have so many friends in the states. Reading many of the comments on this twitter thing and the very rude and hateful comments, (mostly by American Trumps supporters, but by Canadian's as well). This summer could be very volatile.

There are so many Americans that spend their summers up here taking our fish and many abusing our hospitality I can see no good coming from the way this is unfolding.

I recall last summer during the campaign I chanced to talk briefly to an American man on the wharf in Port Hardy who was a Trump supporter. His attitude was mind boggling so that I didn't bother to debate any thing with him. It was obviously hopeless.


Entered at Sat Feb 4 06:59:21 CET 2017 from (184.206.246.11)

Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: The years spinning by...

Just noticed, you can't get a used copy of the Rhino release of "The Last Waltz" at an price. Guess I better make the move for Jesus and pick up the Basement Tapes Bootleg series while I can still get it. That LW was around forever cheap. I find the Bootleg series kinda boring to listen to but it really does put you right there as you wait for the great parts to come along. And the package is beautifully put together. I especially like the photo shoot section of the 75 edition ( Great, up yours Clinton Haylen) , I used to walk by the Y in Hollywood every day, never knowing this famous event took place there. Anyway, as a movie collector, if you see something you want on Amazon for five bucks, snap it up! It could be gone next year or someone could be trying to get a hundred dollars for it.


Entered at Sat Feb 4 04:03:02 CET 2017 from (74.12.49.100)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Charles Lloyd

I see the discography at this site, citing Levon's book, dates the Charles Lloyd session with Robbie as March '65. YouTube, with no mention of Robbie, has it as May 8, 1964. Do any of you have facts or views to share? (Yet another instance when having David P (RIP) around would have come in handy.)


Entered at Fri Feb 3 18:30:41 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Snubs

My top 5 How The Hell Are They Not in The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame !

1. Cher - She should be in twice, once with Sonny and for her own incredible solo career. I Got You Babe is easily one of the most popular songs of all time. If you're traveling in a car of people from 2 to 82, this song comes on and you automatically have a hootenanny/karaoke moment in full rage. During hard times, sad times, happy times so many folks have spoken the title of this song to each other. It's impossible to over estimate Cher's influence on woman pop singers. Before Cher everyone performed in party dresses. Seeing Cher for the first time on television back then on Shindig or Hullabaloo was truly mind blowing.

2. T Rex - It's really unbelievable he's not in. Electric Warrior and The Slider have to be in top 100 records of all time. Plus he had so many other great records. My daughter recently started performing Children of the Revolution. What a song. Saw him once at The Academy Of Music fall of 72. Amazing performer. Bigger then life personality.

3. The New York Dolls - The greatest NY band after The Rascals. The link between T Rex and The Clash.

4. Johnny Rivers - If Poor Side Of Town was his only song it's great enough to carry him in to the hall. The thing is he has a wheel barrow full of great songs.

5. Garland Jeffreys - Just because something's not popular doesn't mean it's not great. A victim of old fashion rock and roll racism. Ghost Writer and Escape Artist alone should carry him in. Matador would be the cherry on the cake.


Entered at Fri Feb 3 15:05:19 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: On Cher's longevity..

PV and Bob W - You guys are correct, obviously and I yield! I think I lumped her in with ABB as it was the focus. To your point Bob W about her oscar: she's a fine actress too. Not every pop singer can make that transition so well. I suspect Tom Waits is quite popular with movie makers, but I don't think he's made the move to film acting very well yet -


Entered at Fri Feb 3 14:20:38 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Cher

And The Band were perfectly content to play with her in 1974. Link is to my Toppermost.

If you don't appreciate Cher's credentials, get "3614 Jackson Highway" and guess who plays guitar on it? Eddie Hinton. It all connects.


Entered at Fri Feb 3 13:57:26 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Cher and time

Cher has taken a song to the top of Billboards charts in each of the last 6 decades. No one else has done that. At the age of 70 plus she can sell out any arena any where in the world in less then a minute. Oh and also there is that Oscar on the mantle.


Entered at Fri Feb 3 05:10:21 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.226)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Eddie Hinton was brilliant. A super talent.


Entered at Fri Feb 3 03:17:11 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Eddie Hinton

Speaking of white guys that could sing soul and blues very well: Eddie Hinton. I've been going through his catalog lately and remain impressed. I looked at the Netflix doc on Muscle Shoals awhile back and don't recall him getting much time, if any. There's not much that's any good on YouTube either. Pity. Some of those here might recall when our great friend David Powell brought him to our attention. Coincidentally, I recall DP was, or had been, a big ABB fan too -


Entered at Fri Feb 3 01:48:02 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.226)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Oliver Sain developed and produced Fontella & Bobby McClure. He wrote & produced Rescue Me and Don't Mess Up A Good Thing & a whole lot more. . Very talented man, great sax player, & a great producer for a while.......... By the eighties his production skills went awry... he was always producing but the sound was different and the piano always sounded like it was tinkling...... Returning to St Louis in 97, I saw a lot of Oliver's shows, some were with Johnnie Johnson, and a night in a bar with Oliver's band was always a blast. Or at a outdoor venue, etc...In 97 i went on a call, someone wanted a window estimate. the guy was barber, you could tell he been through alot but was living a straight life, proud of it, had his own barber shop. I sold him windows of course. i saw a guitar case, We start talking music, which is generally inevitable, turns out he and Bobby McClure were lifelong buddies till bobby died. they also worked together alot..


Entered at Fri Feb 3 01:46:05 CET 2017 from (114.75.195.47)

Posted by:

Wallsend

JQ, I agree. Loved Filmore East when it came out but I don't really think the ABB did stand the test of time. It doesn't help that Greg appears to be a complete a-hole.


Entered at Fri Feb 3 00:19:11 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

It is an old discussion, but as I explained before, the Allmans were never at the same level in the Uk, except for Jessica. Their CDs have been hard to get. The whole Southern Rock area was less popular here, with soul doing much better. I am prejudiced as a major Fontella Bass fan, and the YouTube has awful sound but shows her. There is an alternative off the 45, audio only.

Today I was listening to Rufus Thomas, having found an original Walkin the Dog LP, and as a total contrast, English folk by the Young 'uns.


Entered at Fri Feb 3 00:13:19 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Taste is subjective??

Hi Jed - You might want to rethink that a bit or allow that everything, including art, also has an objective means of measuring its quality. Longevity is a key component of quality and I'm not convinced that Cher or GA/ABB have truly stood the test of time. Having said that I was mad for Fillmore East when it came out and still appreciate some of it, mostly Duanne. In deference to the late Butch T, I won't swing too hard at the ABB drumming corps, or The Dead's - but come on!

Hopefully my wanker's note isn't too snotty - all apologies, mostly just messin' anyway.


Entered at Fri Feb 3 00:02:40 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It is subjective of course, but as a matter of principle I have to get through a long list of black names as blues singers before the first white one comes up. I agree Gregg's a very good one. Not that I think white guys can't sing the blues. Van Morrison, Chris Farlowe … or Mose Allison Just not like Muddy Waters. Or Howlin' Wolf. But I didn't find the Gregg / Cher duet objectionable actually, good song, interesting contrasting voices … though the clothes on both were ludicrous. Try it with the vision off.

I'm a great Cher defender. She is after all on more Ronettes and Crystals tracks than most of the alleged "groups."


Entered at Thu Feb 2 23:40:17 CET 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Peter-Gregg Allman

No-he's one of the greatest blues singers.Taste is subjective-if it wasn't I would say your belief that the Gregg/Cher songs have any merit at all is absurd-but I recognize that taste is subjective.


Entered at Thu Feb 2 23:37:12 CET 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Don't Mess Up a Good Thing

I love Gregg,but that performance with Cher is him at his worst.He covers this song on both his first solo album,Laid Back and on his live The Gregg Allman Tour & he easily outdoes the original.


Entered at Thu Feb 2 23:34:36 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

and could we insert "white" before blues singers? I can go with that, but definitely not with "one of the greatest blues singers."


Entered at Thu Feb 2 23:31:52 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Don't Mess Up A Good thing

Link is to the 1965 original by Fontella Bass and Bobby McLure, and yes they did it better. However if you avoid the dreadful costumes on both Gregg and Cher, by say not watching but just listening, they make a decent job of it.

This would be not long after Cher and Rick Danko duetted on Mockingbird, backed by The Band, at the party for David Geffen.


Entered at Thu Feb 2 23:14:15 CET 2017 from (114.75.195.47)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Yeah, I though it was pretty funny.


Entered at Thu Feb 2 22:02:36 CET 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Gregg/Cher

You're kidding, right?Gregg Allman has put out some incredible music, & he's one of the greatest blues singers, an excellent songwriter both with the Brothers & solo & you post a youtube of some his worst crap?


Entered at Thu Feb 2 18:18:54 CET 2017 from (114.75.195.47)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Greg Allman and Cher doing a duet.


Entered at Thu Feb 2 05:08:00 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.219)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Garth tomorrow in Albany with The Last Waltz 40 Tour

See da link


Entered at Thu Feb 2 04:02:40 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: women's march

Angelina: don't give up on us. In time I think there will be quite a bit of commentary; at least I hope so. I'll relate our experience at the march in our state's capital city, a week from now. I've got to be away until then and have an early flight. But, Angie this can be an opportunity for a vibrant conversation, so keep on us old dubs.


Entered at Wed Feb 1 21:02:18 CET 2017 from (107.77.97.122)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Women's March

My wife went to the one in Astoria OR - it was about 1,500 folks, which is pretty good from a population if 15,000. She came home happier and more hopeful than she'd been since election night. Just the camaraderie helped achieve that. But it's a dreadful time; folks are looking for common ground but I really don't think there is any at all. We need an opposition leader and it's time for a real fight - tactics TBD!


Entered at Wed Feb 1 18:45:20 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

My daughter also attended the Woman's March in Washington. On The Walkway Over The Hudson where we have our kettle corn concession we had a tremendous march as well. The Walkway is one of the longest pedestrian bridges in the world. From gate to gate, 1 1/4 miles over the Hudson River. Connects Ulster and Dutchess County. The organizers were expecting 100-500 people, ended up with 5000 to 6000 marchers. Biggest event ever on The Walkway. Beautiful day.

Link to Jackson Browne's version of Little Steven's I Am A Patriot.


Entered at Wed Feb 1 16:59:15 CET 2017 from (99.231.74.112)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: R.I.P. John Wetton

Sorry to hear of your loss Peter. Such long friendships are rare and to be treasured. He was an extremely talented musician and his influence large. He will be missed. Also passing so soon after Greg Lake.


Entered at Wed Feb 1 14:28:53 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Ian. Thanks very much for your response. I was extremely disappointed because many posters talked about Trumpdom.....but then when something was really happening in such a powerful way with an organic movement that started with women and progressive men marched with them and supported them as their struggle is their struggle.....dejav vu........civil rights movement gained momentum when non-blacks joined the movement.......I lost a lot of respect here. I almost wasn't going to post again as I felt......I can't even put into words as I couldn't comprehend how many here can go on and on about various political things and not even comment on what transpired and continues to transpire? I know some of you are progressive.......but.......

I'm not on Facebook so I only found out two days before the March in my mindfulness meditation class. One of the facilitators was going to participate in Washington March who was 65 and a very young person was going to participate in Boston. I lost a lot of respect here. I did connect my posts to music as I usually do. As far as politics not being appropriate? How many times have posters here posted how much they miss the late Steve's political posts? Sorry, it's how I feel. I do remember however when JH once did post on What's New? when it was International Women's Day. He must have appreciated my posts that year. ;-D

Bob F....As I've said before I'm not a huge fan of Joan Baez's singing........but........the song you posted........Thank you!

WNYC...Robbie Robertson interviewed by Alec Baldwin.


Entered at Wed Feb 1 13:38:14 CET 2017 from (86.31.229.95)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: RIP John Wetton

Sad and sorry to hear of John Wetton's death - and thoughts go to you Peter. I was at the same school as you and John and followed his career from the outset with interest though I didn't know him.


Entered at Wed Feb 1 13:14:02 CET 2017 from (69.112.185.73)

Posted by:

Rick S.

Location: Suffern, NY

Subject: Robbie with Marc Maron

I enjoyed the long Marc Maron WTF Podcast with Robbie Robertson. I've been a Band fan since the beginning but I learned some things about Robbie's teen years and Ronnie Hawkins and Dylan. The interview was very funny at times. Maron elicited some great stories from Robbie. I enjoyed it until the end when Robbie rehashed his take on his relationship with Levon.


Entered at Wed Feb 1 10:05:59 CET 2017 from (86.171.26.82)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Sorry to hear of your loss, Peter. I know he meant a lot to you.

When you told me about John, I read up about him. He packed a lot into his life


Entered at Wed Feb 1 07:33:04 CET 2017 from (114.75.203.126)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Dylan's Dream

When it comes to old friendships, Bob summed it up pretty accurately.


Entered at Wed Feb 1 06:18:50 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.219)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bonk, I guess I met the majority of my closest friendships hit/took off or began between the ages of 19 & 30. I have one that couldn't be closer friendship that goes back to 13. Those friends are invaluable. It's less than once in a blue moon any one can make those kind of friendships late in life. It can happen though.


Entered at Wed Feb 1 02:48:21 CET 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

Bonk

Location: Cabbagetown

Subject: Peter V

Sorry to hear about your friend Peter. I can hear the pain in what you wrote. I too have lost many friends from my early teens or puberty. There's a quote from the movie 'Stand by me' that says it all. It goes something like...I don't think I've ever had any friends like the ones I had when I was 12. Geez, does anyone?


Entered at Tue Jan 31 21:59:01 CET 2017 from (96.239.25.33)

Posted by:

Joan.

Subject: Peter V

I condolences on the loss of your friend John old friends of the best friends. As I grew older I realize that filtered out a lot of people from my life but my best friends remain


Entered at Tue Jan 31 17:59:24 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.219)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

My deep condolences Pete. There's never enough of those long time, essentially lifetime long friends. And the older we get, the opportunities to develop those kind of friendships just don't come that often, if at all. From a million angles, there's alot to be said about time.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 17:50:46 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Gordon Haskell

Indeed John played on "It Is and It Isn't" and I have had dinner with Gordon and John who stayed friends … Greg Lake, Gordon Haskell and John Wetton all knew each other, and all played bass with King Crimson.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 17:24:42 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Peter V, sorry to hear about your friend. I think he also played on Gordon Haskell's wonderful record It Is and It Isn't. Great player. RIP


Entered at Tue Jan 31 17:22:30 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The transports

Last night we were at Exeter to see the ballad-opera, THE TRANSPORTS. It was written by Peter Bellamy in 1977, and chosen by Mojo magazine as one of the 100 Greatest Recordings of The 20th Century. It was “Folk Album of The Year” in 1977. This new version features members of Bellowhead, Faustus, The Young ‘Uns and Nancy Kerr. How good was it? Well, I haven’t seen anything better in the six years I’ve been writing reviews on my blog.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 16:18:44 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

John Wetton's greatest hit, Heat of The Moment, was often done live as an acoustic version, some of the best I saw were just with two acoustic guitars, but that's not on YouTube. This one is. RIP, John.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 16:12:35 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: John Wetton, RIP

The saddest news of all for me … I've known John since we were fourteen. He was one of my three oldest friends. He passed away this morning after a long and incredibly courageous fight against cancer. John has had so many tribulations and beaten them from a triple by-pass, to alcoholism and beaten them all. We all had our hopes that he could do it again.

Family, King Crimson, Roxy Music, Uriah Heep, UK, Asia, Mogul Thrash, The John Wetton Band, plus short spells helping out Renaissance, Wishbone Ash, Steve Hackett. Few musicians had more connections, nor kept working so hard all his life.

My link is to the song John wrote after his triple by-pass some years ago, An Extraordinary Life … I only got a few seconds in and the tears welled up … but I commend it to you. He meant it. He truly had an extraordinary life, and was grateful for every moment of it.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 15:55:05 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Women's march

BEG, I'm never sure whether to comment on political matters in this forum or not. It wasn't that I wasn't impressed by the turnout and some of the speeches, nor do I fail to recognise its/their importance but should my views be expressed here? Are they really of interest to others here?

My big concern on such matters is the preserving of future freedom(s), if I can put it like that.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 15:51:29 CET 2017 from (129.42.208.182)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Triplicate

Just what we need as the country falls apart, more Frank Sinatra songs....


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Triplicate

I hope Bob gets this stuff out of his system so he can return to creating & playing his own music.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 15:33:12 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Web: My link

Subject: dylan triplicate release info

check the above link from bobdylan.com for more info about the release, including complete track listings.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 12:46:29 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan in "Triplicate"

Apparently, we are to get a 3-album set of covers from Dylan in March under the title TRIPLICATE. The link is to the promo track "I could have told you".

The track listing is also available on-line:

https://www.amazon.com/Triplicate-Bob-Dylan/dp/B01N9VYLPI/?tag=mfconvert-20

If all these tracks are about 4 minutes long, then it could have been a double album, not a triple. "Why?", one might ask. My guess is that this is to make it fit more easily on to a matching triple vinyl LP release - six sides of 20 minutes each.

Is this because the songs come (mainly?) from the era of vinyl? Is it because Dylan first heard these songs back then? Is it because there has been an increase in vinyl sales in recent years?


Entered at Tue Jan 31 12:10:45 CET 2017 from (86.171.26.82)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Heylin

I always thought Heylin was not great about the Band, not just, Robbie.

Quote from Bob Dylan Behind the Shades: On world tour of 1966:

"On a musical level , the replacement of Sandy Konikoff with Trini Lopez's drummer, Mickey Jones changed the dynamics dramatically. Suddenly, the Hawks had a drummer who was as unwilling to take a back seat as their erstwhile leader, Levon Helm. Jones, though, simply asserted himself on a musical level, driving the other boys to match his intensity as he gave his kit a kicking night after night. The Hawks had also finally found Robertson's 'something that we need[ed] to get out of it."

On 1974 tour:

"It is difficult now to conceive of the risk Dylan was taking by touring with The Band in 1974."

On1965

"Unfortunately there are no audiotapes of Dylan backed by Levon and the Hawks to test Helm's belief that they 'found a way of performing.' Perhaps he was as deluded as to the merits of what they were now doing as he had been about the sound they made before Dylan recruited them."

I could go on and on. There are many times when I think Heylin is not a friend of The Band.

Why is this?


Entered at Tue Jan 31 05:09:31 CET 2017 from (79.75.166.223)

Posted by:

Terry

Subject: Weed

What a pair of rouges Levon and Robbie could be.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 04:30:28 CET 2017 from (73.119.115.178)

Posted by:

Dave H

I really enjoyed the Robbie Robertson interview with Marc Maron. There isn't much in there that super-fans of the Band don't know but he's a good conversationalist and I especially enjoyed his description of his childhood and family. Also notable that he's not only working on a new album but wants Garth to play on it.


Entered at Tue Jan 31 02:21:05 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

To quote Richard Manuel, "I just want to break even."


Entered at Tue Jan 31 00:24:53 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Joan Baez - Brother's In Arms

Wonderful version of an amazing song. The voice of an angel.


Entered at Mon Jan 30 21:45:45 CET 2017 from (114.75.197.61)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Heylin really seems to have some kind of personal grudge. I guess it is because Robbie actually did things and he only writes about people who do things. As usual the whole song writing credit thing is blown completely out of proportion. Levon returned after most of the Big Pink songs were written and he said himself that his input stopped halfway through Stage Fright. That only leaves the Brown album songs and if you take out the songs that were co-credited, it only leaves a few songs attributed to Robbie alone.


Entered at Mon Jan 30 18:13:11 CET 2017 from (24.114.69.128)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I was thinking "assholish", but let's go with your "mean-spirited and shallow". But still, for someone with Heylin's background to suggest that Robbie "hijacked Levon Helm's Band" is beyond peculiar, and far beyond mean.


Entered at Mon Jan 30 17:53:57 CET 2017 from (212.2.4.54)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Infamy! Everybody's got it in for me!

The British will know the quote. Clinton Heylin has been saying sour things about Robbie since 1975 at every opportunity. I thought the Spectator article was mean-minded and shallow,


Entered at Mon Jan 30 16:10:45 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Music in Scorsese's 'Silence' not traditional, says Robbie Robertson
Jan. 4, 2017
very short video


Entered at Mon Jan 30 16:07:23 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Reading Robbie Robertson's memoir
is like stumbling into a name-droppers’ convention
Perhaps Testimony did need a ghost writer. Robertson is not a sympathetic or credible narrator of his own life
Clinton Heylin
21 January 2017

Many thanks haso for sharing that your daughter and her partner attended the historical march. If it was her first march and protest she'll never forget it. You were the only poster who even mentioned this demonstration. Unbelievable.......


Entered at Mon Jan 30 11:11:12 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

The interview starts around the 10:30 mark.


Entered at Mon Jan 30 11:03:15 CET 2017 from (79.75.178.74)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Thanks Fred

I love a good Podcast.


Entered at Mon Jan 30 10:43:05 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Robbie Robertson is a guest on episode 781 of the WTF with Marc Maron Podcast.


Entered at Mon Jan 30 10:19:40 CET 2017 from (67.220.215.88)

Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

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Entered at Sun Jan 29 23:33:41 CET 2017 from (24.114.68.246)

Posted by:

Bill M

Joe J: I finally finished "Testimony" too. Never what I'd consider a tough slog, but generally something to be taken with salt. I wish there were more stories from the very early days, but I suspect that Robbie's memory is not what he makes it out to be. I really linked the last few pages where he goes over what made each of the others special - accurate assessments, I think, even if it didn't really happen that way. Having just listed to MFBP, I'm inclined to go back to the book to see if/how he treats some of the questions that leap to mind: like how did the lead vocals get distributed? Did Levon get just one because the decisions were made before he returned, or because Robbie'd already written his four songs with others in mind?

As for the Bruce Bruno info, the flow of events in pretty much consistent with what I've heard since the mid-'70s, but the dates are off.


Entered at Sun Jan 29 23:13:02 CET 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Hi y'all. Finished 'Testimony'. Read half on Tibb's Eve. Great stuff. The rest was a hard slog. Take with a grain of salt.


Entered at Sun Jan 29 22:53:57 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Doesn't Levon say Hollywood Bowl with Miles Davis was an awful show? (I have it too).


Entered at Sun Jan 29 22:25:24 CET 2017 from (97.92.250.170)

Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: this and that

Wallsend: Thanks for the heads up on Bruce Bruno.

My reaction to "Testimony" was slight disappointment, it gets the job done on the story but I wished Robbie had risked a little more, taken a shot at literature. I wonder who Brando's girlfriend Pat Quinn was, there are several on the IMDB but it's hard to tell if any of them are the actress mentioned in the book. Robbie is almost overly defensive about setting the record straight on the publishing (understandable), but I believe him. Yet maybe Richard and Rick needed drug money when they came back to sell him theirs..... The Hollywood Bowl Story reminds me of how a bootleg of that thing was around forever and I even saw it on CD once. Terrible sound, so it's hard to tell if what Robbie says about Levon playing drunk is true. At different times I had several different Band Boots on disc, with pure white covers and unlistenable sound. Found them at a used record store in the late seventies. You can hear "Jemima Surrender" from the Hollywood Bowl show, sort of, on Youtube.


Entered at Sun Jan 29 12:18:37 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Robbie's 1977 interview re Scorsese

Thanks for your comments. When I tried to find out more about "Movies Are My Life", I, too, found very little immediately available on-line. The "imdb" webpage gives very little information and doesn't mention Robbie at all, even though his interview in the film is described as 'long'.

I have a feeling that a copy of the film may be held at the BFI (British Film Institute) in London because I think it was shown at the National Film Theatre.

The film came to my attention because someone I know asked for some help tracking down reviews of Dylan's late-1979 concerts. I was looking through some of my papers from that period and noticed a review of "The Last Waltz" (by David Bartholomew)in FILM QUARTERLY (Winter 1979/1980) - I am not familiar with this publication. I only have a photocopy of this particular "Last Waltz" article, in which three paragraphs mention the Scorsese documentary.


Entered at Sun Jan 29 00:42:47 CET 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: jerry from toronto

Hey Jerry. You wouldn't happen to have any pictures from the Concord would you?


Entered at Sun Jan 29 00:18:55 CET 2017 from (198.91.135.110)

Posted by:

jerry

Location: toronto

a fan since the concord best group of musicians of all.recently googled rick danko version it makes no difference 2/9 83 incredible.i love the eagles but the band is THE BAND.


Entered at Sat Jan 28 20:20:03 CET 2017 from (114.75.192.154)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Ian, after you mentioned that film, I did bit of a google search and it seems to have sunk almost without a trace. All I could find were a couple of short bad reviews.


Entered at Sat Jan 28 16:36:25 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Stevie Nicks Remasters

I've given up on most remasters of great records. Most are on the third or fourth edition and end up being more about rethreads. However, if there are any Stevie Nicks fans on the GB, the remasters of Bella Donna and The Wild Heart are wonderful. Well worth the money. So many great alternate/unreleased versions, demos and B sides. Plus Bella Donna has a live show from 1981 when she really had the power. I loved those shows and that time period for Stevie Nicks.


Entered at Sat Jan 28 15:51:42 CET 2017 from (24.114.50.141)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: "Testimony" gives Robbie a bit more credit for some things than that interview does. Maybe he concluded he'd been overgenerous.


Entered at Sat Jan 28 10:21:37 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Robbie on Scorsese in 1977 documentary film

Earlier, I mentioned a film review that referred, in passing, to a documentary film about Martin Scorsese. The latter included a 1977 interview with Robbie Robertson and I quoted a bit. This is the rest of the paragraph:

The two men apparently met for the first time at the legendary Woodstock Festival, for the film of which Scorsese was principal editor. When it came time to make ‘Waltz’, Scorsese “was the only person I knew enough about movies to do it. I didn’t know anything about movies, plus he loves the music and grew up with it, so he could relating to the f**cking experience. The movie was supposed to be simple, a recording of the concert”, but as Scorsese got more and more involved in it, “he talked us into doing some additional numbers in the studio and all the interview stuff. It all just grew out of a very simple idea”. Perhaps referring somewhat incoherently to the stylistic effect of music on his films. Robertson, who doesn’t used Scorsese’ name and addresses him only as “Maestro”, says that, the man is a conductor”, and describes a shot (apparently the last one in the film) during which he suddenly looked up in surprise to see Scorsese, riding on the camera crane, eyes half closed, “conducting” the music they were playing. Later he mentions that often during the filming of the interview segments, Scorsese would be “on the chair opposite, moving his arms to what I was saying to him. He was ‘conducting’ our conversation!”.


Entered at Sat Jan 28 02:01:25 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Straight Ahead Rock & Roll

From the movie "Beyond The Law", probably one of Charlie Sheen's best. Based on a true story, (in fact the real officer from the true story plays a part in this film).

This scene is pretty cool and Chris Rea's song "Road to Hell" fits real well here. An FBI agent who went underground to crack some real bad motor cycle gangs. Apparently over 200 arrests and convictions from the operation.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 23:33:19 CET 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: http://player.streamlicensing.com/2832?l&stream_id=4877

Deep Jams Radio-Playing tributes to Butch Trucks & now,The Band came up-featuring Richard Manuel.HASO mentioned feeling devastation when Richard passed,similiar to the way we feel now about Butch.Sadly,both committed suicide.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 23:27:23 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Chicken Hawks

Sorry Bill, I do not.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 18:21:59 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Been YouTubing through these Canadian artists. David Vest was the most impressive at first listen … which made me think of the Cannonball Adderly link (as does the jazz band in La La Land).

The other three were a bit too "white boy blues guitar" at first listen, but I will persevere.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 18:16:02 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 75 Years of Capitol Records

There's a new 500 page heavy coffee table tome out on the history of Capitol Records, with text by Barney Hoskyns. it's a whopping £87 on amazon.co.uk though other sellers have it £55 - £60. It seems like more of a picture book, and comments on amazon include a "What no Cannonball Adderley!" which is justified as he's prominent in my own Capitol discs.

The Band were of course on Capitol and are mentioned in the blurb.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 17:14:58 CET 2017 from (65.92.192.96)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

From JT's list, I'd start with David Vest's "Roadhouse Revelation" on Cordova Bay (cordovabay.com) and Fathead's latest (and perhaps last, in light of the recent passing of their singer, John Mays - see fathead.biz/store). There's also Julian Fauth's excellent "Treat a Stranger Right" on Electro-Fi (electrofi.com). While there at the Electro-fi site, you might try out Blackburn's latest, and Bobby Dean Blackburn's only, and most especially Harrison Kennedy's "This Is From Here".

Harrison, though a veteran of the Detroit-based Chairmen of the Board, has always been a proud hometown Hamiltonian, sharing his city with both Tom Wilson from BaRK and, when he was alive, Richard 'King Biscuit Boy' Newell - and also the two guitarists John D mentioned, Jack deKeyzer and John Lewis.

Getting back to JT's list, also add Wilson's side-project, Lee Harvey Osmond, and their album "A Quiet Evil". (It's a bit of a local supergroup, with various Cowboy Junkies and Skydiggers in addition to Wilson.) And for the assiduous searchers, there's the stunning "Beulah Land" CD by Peter Boyd. Plus there's Fred Eaglesmith, who you've heard me talk about before.

Back to John D: I'm afraid I don't have the album anymore either, so couldn't say. I won't even guess who's on it, though I did see Newell with deKeyzer and a couple of Buffalonians around the time of its release. I also saw Lewis around then with Ronnie Hawkins, but I believe Newell had parted company with Ronnie by then.

John D: Do you still have the Chicken Hawks LP that was done on the sly by Newell, deKeyzer, Stan Szelest, Ken Kalmusky (I think) and Gary Oatridge as a side-project while with Hawkins? It's pretty good, as you might imagine. Maybe recorded shortly before you and I saw them all (except Stan) with Hawkins, Helm and Penfound in '77?


Entered at Fri Jan 27 14:56:06 CET 2017 from (65.94.49.149)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto & Victoria

Subject: Canada roots

Peter V and others have been excellent introducing many of us over here to the recent 'roots' UK performers. So here is a short review of those who might be unknown to you out there from Canada. 1. David Vest 2. Paul Deslauriers Band 3. Downchild Blues Band 4. Fathead Try those first. There are many others.

I want to say that I am a novice at this. Our expert is Bill M and I am sure John D can add to this list. Canada stands tall because of our roots.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 14:43:52 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill M King Biscuit Boy's Mouth of Steel

Bill, all going well, I'm going to play Biscuit's Mama Luchie; from Mouth of Steel; in the 2nd hour of my show tomorrow. Didn't Jack de Keyzer play on this album? Perhaps John Lewis as well. I don't own that particular album; so I don't have any credits.

Thanks Bill.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 09:07:50 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The name of Alton was familiar and I checked … the Mississippi cruises dock there, and they do an Alton-Minneapolis cruise with a stop in Hannibal for Mark Twain fans. Those tugs pushing barges are “tows” even though they push rather than pull. I recall this from the talks on the Blues Cruise from New Orleans to Memphis and also that they push forty or more barges in one lot … I’d like to do the other one they do from Memphis to St Louis one day (or reverse). We found the Mississippi very relaxing … moving slowly. Most of the way just greenery because unless there was a bluff, people didn’t build along the river on the flood plain. If a tow was trying to go round a bend, you just had to stop and wait.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 04:30:50 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.213)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Haso. That wasn't Henry Townsend. Henry was the real thing. Played on some of the most important blues sessions ever, & recorded in 9 consecutive decades. But you got to see Sykes, who was amazing & far more broadly appealing & far more influential in the mainstream.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 03:07:34 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: Butch; Alton

Glenn and Jeff: my only excuse for living around that part of the Mississippi River and that particular college is that my parents worked there... so a free education. Mr. Townsend might have played w/ Roosevelt; I recall a guitar player, but I thought they introduced him as somebody "Johnson". I know a buddy that was w/ me said he never played anything that night outside the key of E, regardless of what Roosevelt was doing.

I think I like the appellation Twitler; I'd just been calling him Grabbie. Amazing to think that his party crowd can just gloss on by the old head of the KGB. What in hell happened to Reagan's evil empire?

Peter V: how perceptive. You've hit it right on the head. It's a very Twainish place. A lot of old, empty factory spaces, a major lock-and-dam behind where all kinds barges pushed by tugboats pile up, waiting to continue downriver; very much 20th and 21st century sense like Twain's paddlewheels. Many nights w/ just a few lights showing on island fishcamps, one can get transported 150 years "backards".

As to Butch Trucks: holy God damn it all to hell. To me this hurts as much as Richard in '86. He was always the rock of those guys, seemed the most grounded. I thought it little wonder that his nephew, Derek, has another-worldly calm on stage. The last time I saw the Allbros, mentioned here a couple of years back, they played all of Eat a Peach straight through. It was like Derek was taking care of his surrogate uncle Gregg, almost to where he'd keep Gregg from falling off the stage. Gregg was so ill, or whatever, that he couldn't finish lines in lyrics that he wrote (and was clearly reading). But Butch just kept on, solid; have to feel for Jaimoe especially.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 02:13:24 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie interview in 1977 documentary about Scorsese

The link gives a bit of background on how Brit Peter Hayden came to shhot a documentary about Martin Scorses in 1977. When I googled it, various release dates were cited but I found a UK review dated late 1979.

This review states that it lasts 59 minutes and includes the following sentence:

"The Hayden film, incidentally, which features a long interview with a semidrunken Robbie Robertson, also provides information on the development of 'The last Waltz'".

When I get a bit more time, I'll repeat some of the excerpts from the Robbie interview that appear in this review. Meanwhile, if anyone has access to this documentary, I'm sure that others here would like more information.


Entered at Fri Jan 27 01:58:12 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.213)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Butch Trucks Suicide & the IRS etc

When i reached the IRS part all i could think of is Twitler doesn't pay taxes.


Entered at Thu Jan 26 23:37:29 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: so cal music

yes JQ there were lots of clubs and smaller venues where one could catch great shows up and down the coast. i saw emmylou harris at a great place in san diego, bob dylan at the time of "saved", frank zappa, elvis costello, poco and loggins & messina. rick danko at the roxy in l.a.; southside johnny & asbury jukes there too. saw the original Band at the greek theatre in '76, joan baez solo at the hollywood bowl. lots of options at that time; don't know how things are these days.


Entered at Thu Jan 26 22:03:56 CET 2017 from (114.75.192.132)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Ben, see the link on this site on Bruce Bruno.


Entered at Thu Jan 26 21:23:39 CET 2017 from (104.129.192.86)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Glenn T - The South OC

HI Glenn - I've always thought the scene down there was impressive, particularly given its small size. North County San Diego pitched in too with JJ Cale and the guys from the English Beat. Maybe its desirability as a place to live helped too, stupid expensive now though: David Lindley/ El Rayo X, Missles of October and Dave Alvin/Chris Gaffney were quite reliably regular. Dick Dale lived in Newport and R Thompson lived/lives in Santa Monica, part time at least. We moved North in '04, no regrets but we do miss that aspect. And it's climate /


Entered at Thu Jan 26 20:42:05 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: JQ - LA

JQ - i lived in woodland hills, 1960 - 82. guess that makes me a valley boy. have also lived in san francisco, san luis obispo, san diego, and santa barbara. it's a big state! currently in dallas (moved here to be closer to grandchildren). i should also state for the record that i'm half canadian, eh.


Entered at Thu Jan 26 18:57:50 CET 2017 from (66.231.199.253)

Posted by:

Mark

Location: Maine

Subject: Kinda Tempted

I'm a long time lurker on this forum, but have not been checking regularly for some time now. Today, I checked in for the first time in a few months. As I'm scrolling up and down trying to follow the "kinda", "sorta", "sorely" discussion, what song do you think came on the music playing outside my office? Unfortunately, I can't add to the discussion as it was clearly "kinda" on the studio version that was played, but I'm still giving Levon credit for trying to help me follow the thread! :)


Entered at Thu Jan 26 13:37:07 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Something Else by The Kinks

The new Mojo has one of their cover discs which recreate a classic album with new artists. I always find these interesting. The latest is "Something Else by The Kinks." Most of the artists are unfamiliar or only vaguely familiar … Ty Segall gets the really hard one, one of the greatest singles of all time (Waterloo Sunset) and psychs it up. Wreckless Eric gets the other hit, Death of A Clown. Chuck Prophet gets Situation Vacant.

If you like the 1967 original, it's fun (though I still go for the originals).


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: Hawks and Zeligs

In "Testimony" we have the same square "Hawks" photo that was in the Time Cover story with Jerry Penfound. BUT... now inching his was Zelig like into the frame is one Bruce Bruno.

So who was that guy?


Entered at Thu Jan 26 01:47:53 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Glenn T

Hi Glenn - Where did you come up in LA? I was born in Inglewood and grew up in Westchester, 50's - 1980 and then the SoOC, San Clemente. I spent a lot of time at The Coachhouse, Golden Bear and Swallows Inn down there.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 21:41:01 CET 2017 from (114.75.192.132)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

ABE is the cheapest place to buy books online.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 19:11:45 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: So many books, so little time...and money

Looking on Amazon to see what the going price for Testimony is to decide whether to buy online or visit my local page pusher and order it through him. A couple of things on there that are raising an eyebrow. "Without Getting Killed or Caught: The Life and Music of Guy Clark" by Tamara Saviano, apparently Mr. Clark's former publicist. Anyone?

"The Book of Levon: The Trials and Triumphs of Levon Helm" by Jamie Malanowski, a very low priced Kindle only. Anyone?


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Butch Trucks-RIP

A tragic loss.The freight train that powered the Allman Brothers.A true member of the family in our home for over 45 years.We are deeply saddened.The Band,The Dead,The Allmans,Dylan-my personal obsessions through the years.Losing Butch is just terrible.RIP.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Glenn, Haso, how the hell did you find yourselves in Alton? What was the attraction of the college if that was what brought you there?

Me, I made a wrong turn in Pittsburgh & ended up in St. Louis.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 16:58:35 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Butch Trucks

Allman Bros. drummer Butch Trucks has left us.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 15:54:51 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

peter V

It sounds Huck Finn crossing the river from Missouri territory to me.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 15:35:46 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: alton

a final word about alton: someone pointed out to me that alton spelled backwards is "not l.a." i was born and raised in los angeles, and alton is definitely not l.a.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 05:57:51 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.51)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Who'da thunk three of us would have history in Alton, Illinois?


Entered at Wed Jan 25 04:50:25 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: haso - alton

Well haso, I attended that same little college on the bluffs, and later worked there for a whole bunch of years. Yes, the air force considered that location for their campus; I'm glad they left it for the college. Was too busy starting/raising a family during those years to see much live music, but did catch some free summer shows in St. Louis: The Jericho era Band, Ringo & his All-Stars (under the arch), Emmylou Harris and Bruce Hornsby on the riverfront (separate gigs). Caught a great Springsteen show and also Los Lobos and Nickel Creek. Thanks for sharing your memories.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 04:44:01 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.51)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Haso. You were very fortunate to catch Sykes.. & might have seen Henry Townsend with Sykes. they were running buddies, going way back... Henry played guitar, & piano, picked that up from Sykes & was great on it too.... Lived to 98, died about 5 or 6 years ago. I never saw Sykes play, but i did get to see plenty of Henry Townsend. and visit with him some. Regular guy, funny as hell. just another guy, would bullshit with anyone who wasn' t a moron. If you were a moron, you were in trouble.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 03:41:01 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: Alton

Jeff & Glenn: let's see what I can remember. Lived near Alton (Elsah, down the River Road) from 1968 until 1977. Went to a little private college on the bluffs above the Mississippi. Strange little factoid: it was the original desired location for the Air Force Academy back in the early 60's or late 50's, until some straight-laced college administrator w/ good connections called some A.F. honcho and cussed him out a blue streak. Of course that might be a Trump-style factoid/alternative f***ing fact.

There was some bar up towards College Ave we used to go for good bluegrass. Tons of local festivals; I particularly recall Dub Crouch, Norman Ford and the Rounders or something like that. Never had heard high harmony before that, kinda different than Richard's falsetto on Rockin' Chair. A local group from SIU called A Country Band. And friends used to play bluegrass in St.L at a little place called The Crock; we affectionately re-named The Crotch. SIU: I know I saw Kris K & his then wife, Rita Coolidge there, maybe Elton, Creedence, maybe Arlo. We spent a lot of early mornings at the Village Cafe on College Ave. At the time 3 buckwheat blueberry pancakes were about $1.10. Good joe too.

St.L: let's see; Dylan and our guys in '74, the Dead, Jackson Browne (w/ Bonnie Raitt to open), Joni, Doc Watson at Wash U, more I don't recall.

Favorite 2 memories or at least not exactly favorite: headed in to get tix for Lynyrd Skynyrd c. 1975 when we heard on the radio that their plane had crashed. Never the same w/out R. van Sant. Still a fucking bummmer. But so's Duane, Berry, Jimi, Richard/Ricky/M. Levan, etc,etc. And a show (I think 1972 or 3) at Wash U w/ Mr. Roosevelt Sykes. Check out his song (but I don't know where), My Baby's Ice Cream Freezer. Good humor. I'll grant you, Angie, it's not particularly pg-rated. That said, on a different note, we were glad to get text/photos of our daughter and her boyfriend in D.C. last Sat. w/ the appropriate pink hats.


Entered at Wed Jan 25 00:44:12 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Fredrik Bakman

Lee, if you get a chance give a listen to My Grandmother Asked Me To Tell You She's Sorry. Wonderful emotionally charged book and where the character Britt-Marie comes from. Thanks for responding.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: New Dead Doc..

Rolling Stone review linked. This actually looks interesting.


Entered at Tue Jan 24 20:32:16 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Fredrik Backman

Bob, I listened to Backman's 'Britte-Marie Was Here' and enjoyed it very much. As I listen more than I read (two hours in the car each day will do that), I did not recall his name, though. I will look for more of his works.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Fredrik Backman

Has anybody else read any of Fredrik Backman's novels? He's an author from Sweden. I just love his books. So much great stuff comes from that part of the world.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Yes, Norm, but . . . are . . . you . . . really Rockin' Chair? Can we see some ID please, hmmmm?


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Alarm!!!!!

Jesus! They got Peter......he's crossed over.....Wonder if He'll find what happened to Kevin J


Entered at Tue Jan 24 04:43:13 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.151)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: New Ray Davies.

But A Big Fucking Oy! Backed by The Jayhawks. I never been a fan of theirs. Have generally found their music and lyrics to be weak and trite. Not even middle of the road.


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Posted by:

popsy

Web: My link

Subject: the band


Entered at Mon Jan 23 16:00:02 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Alicia Keys' Speech, Performance At The Women's March On Washington

Janelle Monae also spoke and performed as did neo-soul artist Maxwell. He covered Kate Bush's This Women's Work.


Entered at Mon Jan 23 15:41:16 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Canadians return from Women’s March on Washington, tired but uplifted
Patricia Kozicka

“I [see] how far we’ve come as women, lots of advancements — huge advancements. But I also see a threat to that advancement.”


Entered at Mon Jan 23 15:35:56 CET 2017 from (79.75.185.112)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: RIP Greg Trooper

Steve Earle did a tribute show to Greg Trooper on his Sirius XM radio show on Sunday. One of his best songs has to be Muhammad Ali (Meaning of Christmas)


Entered at Mon Jan 23 15:30:17 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band's Robbie Robertson receives the Music for Life Award at NAMM

Jan. 19, 2017

NAMM preview showcases unique products


Entered at Mon Jan 23 15:27:37 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band's Robbie Robertson receives the Music for Life Award at NAMM

Jan. 19, 2017

Silent Guitar, etc.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: David Vest and The Willing Victims: Sunday Jan. 22, 2017

We experienced with major blues pleasure the piano of David Vest yesterday at the Blue Goose in Toronto's west end (Mimico). With his band (from his cds), The Willing Victims – Teddy Leonard on guitar and two members of the legendary Downchild Blues Band – Gary Kendall on bass and Mike Fitzpatrick on drums, they treated us to 3 sets of straight-ahead blues which was as good as it gets. From Fathead and Downchild, The Willing Victims provided us with a great show and David led the way with his material from his own cds (Devestatin' Rhythm is the latest) as well as many blues covers. Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan were covered as well in David's interpretations and they were really good. A Little Richard encore blew the roof off the house with the keyboards smoking! A good time was had by all.

On to the Maple Leaf Blues Award show tonight. As David said (I paraphrase what he said)....Win or lose, it'll be good. If I lose, it'll be my friends who win. He is nominated (again/he has won this before) for best keyboards and Devastation' Rhythm is nominated for record of the year. (Incidentally, he was told, he said, but his record company, not to put this record out...it wouldn't be successful). If you like the blues and boogie-woogie piano, David Vest is your man. He's been around a long time and has 6 cds under his belt and a curriculum vitae from the 60s on with some impressive credentials. (check out his website).


Entered at Sun Jan 22 23:21:50 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Sorely suggest a degree of anguish caused by the temptation. Not only would it have been better, but on Levon's behalf, I take exception to the suggestion that he wouldn't' have said it. it sounds both literary and Levon to me!


Entered at Sun Jan 22 22:41:19 CET 2017 from (24.114.77.109)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I'd say the 'extremely' alone rules out 'sorely'. I see no sign that the guy was into extremes. In any case, i'd plump for 'kinda' as a better choice. Robbie likes internal rhymes, which "I'm" and tje "kin" of "kinda" is, sorta.


Entered at Sun Jan 22 18:07:37 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Pretty sure the Academy of Music version is "sorta tempted" too. Not 100%, but near.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: sorta sorely

Twenty years since I wrote that … I just put on the disc from the 2002 box set as probably the best recording. I played that line 6 times. I got "sorta" 4 times, but still thought "sorely" twice. So I think you're right. It's a bit "mud" v "blood" in that if you decide it's one rather than the other, it is.

Pity "sorely tempted" is not only a strong collocation, but has a Biblical edge that makes it sound "Southern" to my ears, in the long tradition of inflated language going back to the humorous Southern writers of the 1850s. "Sorely" is definitely the better choice in the line. "sorta" works better than "kinda" too, perhaps because it sounds closer to "sorely."

There is a difference in meaning between "kinda tempted" (ambivalent) and "sorely tempted" (extremely tempted).


Entered at Sun Jan 22 01:23:06 CET 2017 from (108.2.161.170)

Posted by:

Little Brother

Location: the Guestbook Archives

Subject: "Cripple Creek" Article Nitpick

@ Peter Viney

Peter, I was just re-reading your excellent "Up on Cripple Creek" article, and noticed this:

____________________

But you know deep down I'm kinda tempted* to go and see my Bessie again.

* (sorely tempted on The Last Waltz - an improvement)

____________________

FWIW, I hear this as "sorta tempted", not "sorely tempted". I agree that "sorely tempted" works, and is better than "kinda"-- but I think that, given Levon's natural singing style and the generally folksy, down-home ambience, it's a tad too elegant.

Just a thought. Naturally, I defer to your superior ears and experience. ;)


Entered at Sat Jan 21 22:43:15 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.5)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I was at that Poco show. Cotton was pretty damn sick, but plated his ass off. Rusty played some beautiful steel, & Paul managed to sing the important songs really well despite being ill. Grantham was still with them, hadn't had his stroke yet. & was fucking great like always. I think that was a September or October show. That band that opened up, Niehaus, & so & so, Niehaus has some connection to Rusty.. & was probably responsible for getting Poco in that event.


Entered at Sat Jan 21 22:24:29 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: Alton

Sorry Jeff; don't know those guys. I lived in Alton or nearby for about 25 years, mid 80s till 2011. Lived through the great flood of '93. Never went to any bars, but did catch Poco playing at a street fest downtown not too many years back.


Entered at Sat Jan 21 21:29:36 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.5)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Well then Glenn, do you happen to know the Dick Brothers, Emmitt, Rudy, & Vance? Or the Bell Brothers? Charlie, Jimmy, Jack, and several more. Emmitt Dick & Jimmy & Jack Bell worked for me. Charlie and i worked together for a spell. Bob Whitlock & Bill Towel worked for me, Rick Smith.There's a bunch more... These guys would all be about 73 years old now, some a little less. Last I spoke to Emmitt he was tending bar at The Eagles Lodge. If you recall a musician/disc jockey/label owner named Gabriel, he's been living in Alton at least 16, 17 years now.Been a radio jock over 60 years... I linked something about Gabriel that I haven't read. It's from 2002 i think...He's still on the air, no longer from midnight Sunday till 6 AM Monday, now he ends his show at 3 A.M.

You need good brakes on your car if you live in or you're going through Alton. And if you spend any time there, you better know how to fight. Tough town, right on that Mississippi. One of the most significant musical shows in my life took place in the casino there.


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Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: Alton, IL

Jeff A: I lived in Alton for many years; it does have Lewis & Clark Community College. Alton was home to the "Gentle Giant" Robert Wadlow (8' 11" tall), and birthplace to jazz great Miles Davis.


Entered at Sat Jan 21 19:04:52 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: My Wandering Mind

During our most resent sharing of "House of Blue Lights" it took me back to my childhood. I used to sing that song when I was about 5 or 6. That brought me to this next one as that era of music and Speak Easys had always fascinated me.

On picking up on this next one of my favourites I sang as a kid, I was surprised to find that Jim Lowe died last month at age 93. If you know about him at all he was great in all his career and achievements.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Margo Price

Review of MARGO PRICE at Oxford last night. She made my favourite album of 2016, and she really knows how to rock at the highest level. As so often, I have a few moans about the hall sound though.


Entered at Sat Jan 21 18:27:32 CET 2017 from (83.249.168.138)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Norbert and Aki Kaurismäki

Yes I know, I have checked out already ... but I can't help thanking my friend in arms NORBERT for mentioning Aki Kaurismäki here. Aki who? The Oscar nominated and Cannes Film Festival winning film regisseur! My link goes to his film. He shows how it was in Finland in early sixties when I was young. (Is it "me" sitting there somewhere around 1:35 or is it only a dream? And the music... if you like 'Self Portrait' you'll like this.


Entered at Sat Jan 21 16:15:00 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.5)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Quickly, Haso you didn;t state you attended college in Alton, & i doubt there is one, not even a community college. I'm guessing you went to Edwardsville. If so, you saw some great concerts there. Ever hit the blues/jazz joints in East St Louis? Some were still around in the 70s, the 80s too. Or St Louis?


Entered at Sat Jan 21 15:36:59 CET 2017 from (173.3.51.5)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Haso, in 1983, 84, I had 8 0r 9 guys from Alton working for me in the greater st Louis area. then in 97, till early 2002, i had 3- 6 of em, at various times. Siding mechanics &,roofers...I'll be back later to tell some tales. Was Fast Eddie's bar open yet when you were there? I imagine so. Hard to imagine anyone not form one f those close by towns going to college in Alton. are you from that area?


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

I don't know the named singers too, BEG. But at this year's festival, there is a real commitment to celebrating the work of female singers.

And talking of female singers, I had never heard of Nicolette Larson, Rockin Chair, yet I had two Commander Cody albums back in the day. Really enjoyed her singing.


Entered at Sat Jan 21 05:32:13 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: HoBL, Feat

Norm: Great compendium of HoBL; yeah that's a 60 cent word as my dad would have said. I only wish I knew more of who all was represented... I mean obviously the Duke and the Count, but even at 0.13 a brief shot of Harpo from the back. Of course he generally let Chico play the ivories, but he wasn't unknown to. I also believe him to once be goofing around playing the piano strings on a grand as if they were a harp.

Never saw the Commander, but have enjoyed "Hot Rod Lincoln" for better than 40 years. Had a chance to see him and the Airmen at a little riverfront club in Alton, Illinois during college days and somehow didn't.

Angelina, if you're into the Concert Vault, they also have an excellent Feat show recorded at the Orpheum in Boston sometime in 1975.

Pretty much in agreement w/ most everything's been said about Emmy Lou, although the last time I saw her w/ Rodney at a free concert in Boston 2 years ago, she seemed to pretty much "mail it in". Rodney too, but not as much. Too bad, 'cause she was excellent both at Newport in about '09 w/ Alison Krause and even better the 1st time I saw her, I believe about 1978 or 9. Portland, Maine; order of business was Jerry Jeff Walker, Emmy Lou, Willie Nelson. Good stuff all the way around. I may have seen her otherwise, just don't recall; who was it moaning earlier this week about being 58 (I'd go back there already) and memory shot-to-hell?


Entered at Sat Jan 21 03:31:15 CET 2017 from (24.114.53.136)

Posted by:

Bill M

Two more LPS from the same bargain bin.

1) The Libby Titus album, which I got in the '70s and got rid of in the '80s and thought I'd try again as I've matured (or at least changed) over the years. Still don't care for it, though it's interesting to see the depth of band feeling at the time ('77) as if still one big more-or-less happy family. Robbie produces some and plays on some, Garth plays and is thanked along with Richard, the album "is lovingly dedicated to Ezra and Amy".

2)The LP by Natural Gas, the last LP released by the great Sam Goldner before he died circa 1970, on Firebird, the last of his long series of small but important record labels, including Gee and Red Bird. The group Natural Gas was Based in Montreal, but was mostly Ontarians, notably George Olliver, lead singer of Domenic Troiano's mighty '60s soul band, the Mandala, and Graham Lear, who would go on to make a name for himself as Santana's drummer.


Entered at Sat Jan 21 03:11:00 CET 2017 from (67.84.78.189)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Roger, i was only off by ten years, meant 1975.

Yesterday I filled out a withdrawal slip at the bank, go to the window. The cashier knows me a long time, neighborhood woman, asks me me "Jeff, are you in a hurry?". I said " Not at all...." she repeats "You're not in a hurry?" Me: "Nope." She: "Cause you dated this slip February, cross that out, fix it & initial it...." Her delivery could not have been better.


Entered at Sat Jan 21 02:44:57 CET 2017 from (24.114.53.136)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: HoBL

Rockin C: Gotta agree that watching film clips is better than watching a static album cover. Maybe I'll watch the Cody while listening to the Crowbar, still my favourite. Remember, since that was the only version I knew for 10+ years, it doesn't sound too fast to me.

By the way, did you ever run into an old C&W band called the Sons of the Saddle. Three Siebert brothers from Calgary, with others as the moved east to Winniped to Toronto, where in '61 they recorded an LP that a surprised me found in a bargain bin this afternoon. I have a feeling the some of them found their way to Vancouver.


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Posted by:

Rod

Wallsend, that was a great interview with John McLaughlin. Maybe Donald Trump will make music great again.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Definitions

They don't really do it for me Bill. The Crowbar one is way too fast. They need that bouncey feel for the music of the times back then. If you bothered to watch Commander Cody's video they put together you may understand what I mean. It's a great video work showing a lot of old bands of the day.

Another one that deserves a listen is Canned Heat.


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Jeff, you've got caught somewhere in the mixed up space-time continuum...

... the awful event today in Washington has really got to you. 1985 was only 32 years ago. Come back Ronald Reagan, all (well a little bit) is forgiven.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Subject: HoBL #2

Rockin C: Another good version, from the early '80s, is by Professor Piano (i.e., Scott Cushnie, or Magoo as Robbie calls him in "Testimony") and the Canadian Aces. Slower and truer to the original.

Surely it was no coincidence that Cushnie and Crowbar main-man Kelly Jay grew up together in Oakville, just west of here - along with bassist Chuck Daniels. In the early '60s (after Scott had left the Hawks), the three played together in Kelly Jay and the Crowns, along with Scott and Robbie's fellow Suede, Peter Deremigis. And then Kelly and Chuck joined Larry Lee and the Leesures, who would end up living with the Hawks at a hotel on Jarvis Street. (Robbie mentions the hotel in "Testimony", but not the Leesures.)


Entered at Fri Jan 20 04:51:08 CET 2017 from (64.229.182.103)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: house of blue lights

Rockin C: My favourite version of the "House Of Blue Lights" is the first I heard - the linked 1971 version by Crowbar. It seems to me that the crazed piano is a musical guest - Doug Riley, I suspect.


Entered at Fri Jan 20 03:43:31 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.39)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: The Last Waltz is Still Paying People

The Last Waltz at 40 tour hits Long Island Feb 3rd.

Great new music can go fly a kite. Good & great new bands or many good solid old bands can't get gigs &/or can't get people to gigs, but, people run to see tributes to 40 year Old Concerts & old popular bands.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

John McLaughlin on the state of the music industry and jazz. I have huge respect for John as both a musician and a person. Unlike our guys he didn't squander his money and talent on nonsense.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Feb 1975 for the Commander & Emmy Lou

February 1975 I was 16. Only 58 & I'm a senile fuck, can't think or type worth a trump inaugural commemorative coin.


Entered at Thu Jan 19 22:35:22 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.39)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I caught The Commander & his lost Planet Airmen in Feb 1985. At the Troubador in LA. I was 16, my cousins neighbors who were Australian musicians took me & my friend.

During his set The Commander introduced EmmyLou Harris, who came out in white buckskin, looked absolutely beautiful, & sang some from her about to be released record.Probably a Burrito song or two. I just remember how gorgeous she was, how beautiful her voice was, & that the Lost Planet Airmen smoked..Sheesh, i was 16 & it was 42 years ago. ... A month or two or three later I caught her & her first Hot Band, I'm pretty sure at The Capital Theatre in Pasaic, N.J. The Ozark Mountain Daredevils and Brewer & Shipley were on the bill. Possibly another act. that was one hot show.......I've seen her a few more times over the years,it's still coming to me.... one was with that bluegrass band she ran for a minute, & i think one time with Barry Tashian in her band...& maybe one or two more. I'm pretty sure it was twice in the beginning, not once, while Rodney was in her band.


Entered at Thu Jan 19 21:15:22 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Just one more

I can't say why, but I haven't listened to Commander Cody and The Lost Planet Airmen in a long while.

Who can forget one of the prettiest girls with a great voice Nicolette Larson. She did a lot of work with Neil Young. Here with Commander Cody she sings this ballad for all the old wacky tabbacky smokers.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A foot note

I think it was 1946 that Ella Mae Morse & Freddie Slack played House of Blue Lights. Their recording is on youtube, with pictures of them. Ella Mae is gawd damn gorgeous!


Entered at Thu Jan 19 20:34:14 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Commander Cody - House of Blue Lights

Haso, I expect you may have seen this. Although Ray Benson does this song well, to real get the feel of where this song came from and the times, every one needs to watch this old video. It's wonderful!


Entered at Thu Jan 19 17:12:59 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Maria McKee. She is here with her band Lone Justice performing Shelter. When she lets her hair down.....same look as when she's hanging around for Robbie's Somewhere Down The Crazy River. I watched Robbie on MMM? say that for the video he was thinking about someone who looked like white trash for the video. Yuck! I never liked Maria in his video as she's a musician herself not someone to be dancing around for someone's fantasies. He does kiss her passionately at the end. Still.....Maria.......Have him in your videos! ;-D

For Maria's solo recordings I really enjoy Life Is Sweet 1996 and You Gotta Get Sinned To Get Saved 1993....also cover of Van's The Way Young Lovers Do.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sarah and Robbie


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Canadian Sarah McLachlan who brought the world LILTH FAIR feat. Robbie Robertson - World On Fire

"Alternate official version. This one's served as a promo for TNT miniseries 'Into The West'. Clips of the show mixed with footage of Sarah and Robbie. Directed by Paul Fedor."

If my memory serves me well it was also Robbie who presented Sarah with her first Juno Award.

Apologies to dayna manning and wild strawberries who performed on previous clip at Lilith Fair Concert on that particular night. I was at the Lilith Fair Concert where Emmylouuu was performing. I posted first concert I found.


Entered at Thu Jan 19 16:44:21 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you DUNC!!!!! I will have to check out those female artists as I don't know any of them.

Hi South! I won't bend when it comes to my politics as I'm all about bread and butter issues. Loved watching Sanders the other day interrogating re health care. He's right on! Having ACCESS to health care is not the same as HAVING THE RIGHT TO HEALTH CARE IN MOST INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES (JAPAN 70% FRED?) IN THE WORLD HAS UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE EXCEPT FOR THE USA!!!! I STILL DON'T GET IT!

Link is to why Lilth Fair happened.......Promoters at the time didn't think having more than one female artist on a bill would bring in fans to the shows. Over an hour of various artists performing. I see that it was Patti Griffin was the woman who I couldn't remember who I also saw at the Concert Against Landmines.

singers: Jewel, Sarah McLachlan, Indigo Girls, Sheryl Crow, Meredith Brooks, Shawn Colvin

special appearances : pat benatar , paula cole , yugchen lhamo , julia fordham , patty girffin, emm gryner , lisa loeb

Fred...Thanks very much. I think the first time I heard Willin' was via Linda Ronstadt. She had a way of making songs by others hers as well. Same as with The Eagles' Desperado.


Entered at Thu Jan 19 10:59:34 CET 2017 from (81.159.120.36)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Empowerment of women through song

Our big folk music festival starts today it is huge. Folk encompasses a wide range of music at this festival. Lot of interesting world acts. Olivia Newton John is putting in an appearance.

There is a theme of 'empowerment of women through song' at the festival with many lady singers. You'd like this BEG. See link.

Maybe soon we'll see Roseann at it, Bob.

Now, can I get motivated to go?


Entered at Thu Jan 19 10:38:10 CET 2017 from (81.159.120.36)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Thanks

Thanks Haso, Rockin Chair and BEG.

Enjoyed clip Bassmanlee.

My favourite female singer is Maura O'Connell. I'm playing a lot of her just now. She's worked a lot with Jerry Douglas and Bela Fleck and has a wide repetoir.

Here she is singing a wonderful song by an Irishman, Gerry O'Beirne, who as well as being a really good songwriter is a good guitarist. He has toured as part of THe Waterboys. Enjoy this great song. She doesn't write songs, but what a voice.


Entered at Thu Jan 19 04:33:44 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Little Feat

Did someone mention Little Feat?

Angelina (and anyone else inclined to do so):

My link (if working properly) should take you to a Little Feat show from 1974. It's a good one.

Lots of other shows at archive.org. But I do prefer the Lowell George era Little Feat the most.

His solo album (from 1979) is a decent little record, too.


Entered at Thu Jan 19 02:40:34 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Asleep at The Wheel

Thanks for the nod Haso. It's good to hear Dunc got turned on to these guys. One of the best in country swing. Here is one of Ray Benson's songs that I got a lot of mileage out of when I was in the circuit.


Entered at Thu Jan 19 01:29:50 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: 5 and Asleep

Good points on gb/women musicians, BEG. I always thought Joni's piece, both from Scorcese and the entire TLW kinda 2nd only to Van and Muddy. Not that it's much use to rank TLW performers. I certainly never understood complaints about her playing songs that were current to her at the time; so, she was heading into her Mingus-jazz phase. What's the sin in that? If anybody in r 'n' r could handle that I would think it would be the Band. Yeah, you need some Little Feat. I especially like Waiting for Columbus because they've got the Tower of Power horn section on stage. If anyone here likes total funk (not including Levon's sensibility sometimes in his drumming), you can't go wrong w/ any early Tower of Power when Lenny Williams sang and Lenny Pickett (later to be long-time leader of SNL band, post-G. E. Smith) was featured on tenor.

Dunc: now that you've found AatW (I couldn't watch your link, probably a U.S./Scotland thing), search out their version of "House of Blue Lights"... really swings. If I'm not mistaken, some of Norm's fairly recent links to Merle Haggard have he & Willie Nelson playing w/ some of the Asleep guys. Definitely their leader, Ray Benson is on the you tubes I saw... wonderful baritone voice; probably their fiddle and pedal steel too.


Entered at Wed Jan 18 17:20:27 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

.....and since it was Paul Young's birthday yesterday! Happy Healthy Belated Birthday to singer-songwriter, soulful, and sexy.......Paul Young!
I never get tired of this video. We had so much energy in the eighties.....Yes we did! ;-D


Entered at Wed Jan 18 17:03:59 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

.....and Alison Moyet was at Live Aid 1985. Here she is with Paul Young. It was at Paul Young's outdoor concert in Toronto with Robert Palmer's Power Station.....I discovered I needed glasses for distance. lol


Entered at Wed Jan 18 16:39:18 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bob F...You're an honorary member of the club if you dig Mink DeVille as well! Toronto's Paul James was in Willy's band in the mid-eighties for a brief time. He had similar look but you can tell he needed to be his own person and not play in anyone's band but his own.

It was 1985......I remember it so well when Sade came on the stage at Live Aid. I watched the entire telecast from England to Philly. Only Phil Collins was at both places. Partner likes her because her music has a jazzy feel.

glenn t...Emmylouuu for sure! She could be on anyone's list. First time I saw her was at Canadian Sarah McLaughlin's Lilith Fair. She had presence on stage as you could tell all the younger female musicians were in awe of her. Concert was great venue for men who wanted to meet women as well. lol Second time was on the same bill with Neil Young and Crazy Horse. Maple Leaf Gardens wasn't the right venue for her band. Third time at Massey Hall for Concert Against Landmines. Perfect......along with Steve Earle......humble and inspiring, Bruce Cockburn......amazing guitar picker and John Prine first time. Great storyteller!

Bassmanlee...It's all good when you're playing any kind of music. Play on!

Yesterday we saw Silence. I was the one who didn't find it slow. Although I had to look away at times due to brutal violence I left the Theatre thinking so much about religion in a way I never had before. After I went for my first class in Tai Ji (told it's not really Tai Chi).......yikes........This discipline will emphasize wherever you have challenges....for me the knees due to skipping for many years and two terrible falls.....others in the class......their lower back, their shoulder. In Louise L Hay's book You Can Heal Your Life.....Those of us who have knee problems as I'm sure I'm not alone here......

Knee...represents pride and ego...

Mantra...I am flexible and flowing.

Knee Problem...Stubborn ego and pride. Inability to bend. Fear. Inflexibility. Won't give in...

Mantra...Forgiveness. Understanding. Compassion. I bend and flow with ease, and all is well.
Yup! She's got my number....very true.

Anyone want any info on someone else's problems? ;-D


Entered at Wed Jan 18 14:28:47 CET 2017 from (129.42.208.184)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

BEG, for sure. Garland, Ani, The Waterboys, Mink DeVille, Lou amongst my all time favorites. They all played many times in the tri state area so I've seen them a bunch. Link is to one of my favorite Garland songs, City Kids.


Entered at Wed Jan 18 14:17:46 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Demo, Cactus Blossoms

Thanks, Peter. That's exactly what it's for. Glad you liked it.

Coincidentally, the boys are working up a cover of the Cactus Blossoms' 'Stoplight Kisses', which is apparently in heavy rotation on the University of Pennsylvania station (WXPN). While we mainly do oldies, the sound and feel make it a good fit.


Entered at Wed Jan 18 14:14:03 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Stoplight Kisses

Link to official Cactus Blossoms video of "Stoplight Kisses." My review linked on previous post.


Entered at Wed Jan 18 14:09:34 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Cactus Blossoms

Review of The Cactus Blossoms with fine support band Junco Shakers. The Cactus Blossoms are brothers from Minneapolis, and this was the first gig of their 2017 European Tour. It sets the bar very high for concerts this year! Brilliant. They sound like the Everly Brothers, the original songs are powerful, and they covered Hank Williams, Chuck Berry, Lefty Frizell, The Kinks, Patsy Cline & The Beatles. That’s eclectic.

For a Band connection, they did Down South in New Orleans.

Read the full review.


Entered at Wed Jan 18 11:10:45 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I enjoyed that Bassman Lee … it's a sampler to get gigs, I assume? Nice choice of material. I like the idea of combining Stay and Hey! Baby. "Stay" has magic with audiences, as Jackson Browne found. We recorded a version for our last ELT course, and when we did talks played the recording before and after … it really does put people in the right mood.


Entered at Wed Jan 18 07:34:20 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

The Leafs are looking good-ish so far this season. Maybe this year is THE year. : )


Entered at Wed Jan 18 07:03:00 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Recording of February 2017
The Last Waltz 40th

The Gift that keeps giving. ;-D

By Robert Baird
Jan 17, 2017

Bob F...We have a lot of the same musical references. :-D

Jed...I'll always be a fan from a far.....of Derek Rose as I remember how great he was before all of his injuries. Wall and Westbrook are still the roadrunners but one day things will be different for them too.

Fred...We have Austin Matthews now so not all awful but he's American? ;-D

Dunc...You're always in my club as you're an outspoken Louuu fan as not many of us here. You either get him or you don't. We did.....Peter too and St. Kitts and Garland Jeffreys!


Entered at Wed Jan 18 06:52:56 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sundance Exclusive: Trailer For ‘Rumble: The Indians Who Rocked The World’ Featuring Martin Scorsese, Robbie Robertson, More

January 16, 2017

“Rumble: The Indians Who Rocked The World” will have its first screening
Sunday, January 22nd at 9 PM
Yarrow Hotel Theatre Park City Utah.


Entered at Wed Jan 18 04:51:41 CET 2017 from (76.254.55.194)

Posted by:

Scott

Web: My link

What happened to the Audio Files page?


Entered at Wed Jan 18 02:47:51 CET 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: bassmanlee

Lee. That's what it's all about. Having fun. Not bad brother. I was waiting for a one armed go go dancer to come out when the TWO couples were dancing. HaHa


Entered at Wed Jan 18 00:15:59 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Knicks

Jed, I totally agree with everything you said. Melo isn't the player he was a couple years ago. He still can score in bunches but the rest of his game is limited.


Entered at Wed Jan 18 00:14:38 CET 2017 from (72.78.140.180)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: No Sh*t! I'm YouTube

My admittedly amateur basement band (four old men with day jobs who practice once a week, if the creek don't rise) on rare occasion get to play out for people. Our drummer's son put this phone-recorded video together. Yeah, we suck. But we have a whole lotta fun. I only wish the editor knew a clam when one was laid. Oh, well, my 15, or 5:06 minutes of fame.

See, I am a real person. Mr. Wigo can attest, having seen us play. We can't be too bad, as we have four bookings there this summer.

Oops, time to go to practice.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 23:13:05 CET 2017 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: BEG-The Knicks

Porzingis is nursing a chronic achilles.But,they suck anyway.Rose & Melo cannot contain or keep up with their men & the ball "sticks" when Melo gets it & Rose is always 3 seconds late to pass & usually does his own thing.He is a superb athlete but limited in his range.Noah has a bit left-so,for 72 MILLION(HUH?) he can rebound & play defensively at about 25% of what he was.I can go on & on, but no need to bore the reader.They stink.I've been a loyal fan since the mid sixties, but since '73 its been a rough ride to love the Knicks.The melodrama that surrounds the team is further difficulty that is not helpful.Phil has done some good things(Porzingis!!!) but his management style is disappointing to say the least.The defense is terrible & the lack of brains, effort & injuries, among other things, makes for the mess the Knicks are in!


Entered at Tue Jan 17 21:11:23 CET 2017 from (70.121.40.130)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: let's not overlook...

EMMYLOU HARRIS! classy, dedicated, great duet partner, and so much more.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 17:00:53 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

1979...My only Vinyl by David Jo. Absolutely amazing performer who I saw at The Bottom Line in NYC when there was hope.....It would not be shut down. Canada's Jane Siberry made us Canadians proud that night too. Other amazing night with David was on Levon Helm's Bluezzz Cruise with Sumlin in NYC as well.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 16:38:47 CET 2017 from (129.42.208.183)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Sweet Afton

Dunc, I've never seen or heard that. Really beautiful. Thanks for sharing.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 16:37:07 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I've seen Bonnie Raitt with Eric Clapton. What was interesting for me was that they both performed together at the end of the concert. Why?

I've seen Joni Mitchell at Bob Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue in Niagara Falls, NY, her 70th birthday celebration at Massey Hall with many artists as she was on stage watching the performers but she didn't sing......and the other time was at Maple Leaf Gardens with Bob Dylan. Joni performed first then Bob. At the end of the show.......Nope! They did not perform together.........


Entered at Tue Jan 17 16:31:00 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sincere apologies to haso. My last comment was for you as well. I've entered a new decade last month and I'm not as sharp as I used to be. Sorry haso....You're one of the posters here who are always a pleasure to share thoughts and ideas. Thank you. :-DDDDD
Btw I don't even have Little Feat in my collection! Thanks for reminding me.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 16:24:52 CET 2017 from (24.114.74.46)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: viciousness or vichisoise

Peter V: Hang the potato, I figured Roz at the first insult.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 16:12:16 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Entered at Thu Dec 29 03:46:23 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)
Posted by:
brown eyed girl
Female Musicians for island disc. No particular order.

Joni Mitchell
Amy Winehouse
Annie Lennox
Patti Smith
Ani DiFranco
Stevie Nicks
Joan Armatrading
Rickie Lee Jones...Full Album linked. My very last Rolling Stone Newspaper I received....Article had Tom Waits leaving Rickie. She stayed in bed (by herself) for two weeks. Now that's depression big time.

Out of the artists mentioned I've seen Joni Mitchell three times, Annie Lennox, Ani DiFranco. I missed Stevie Nicks as she wasn't touring at the time with Fleetwood Mac. Whenever I posted about Amy Winehouse....I've even posted probably her best concert....no response. Does someone have to post disparaging comments about female artists before we even acknowledge their existence? I'm guilty too. When artists of any kind have to have a huge ego and thick skin in order to survive the constant criticism....constant.....For female artists.....absolutely brutal.

For example...Joni Mitchell.....Ah she's too self-indulgent....She didn't belong in TLW. Usually people who aren't in touch with their own feeeeeelings have issues with those who do. Some of the Band's musicians couldn't even keep up with all of Joni's chord changes? And Joan Baez....I'm not a huge fan of her singing voice myself but I respect her as an artist and as an activist....but when I read here at times how she messed up the lyrics for TNTDDD.......So? Personally I have to really work hard to remember lyrics as they don't come easily........t was her version that I heard on the radio all the time.....not The Band's. As Marianne Faithful says after performing Why'd Ya Do It? with Garth Hudson....."I feel better now".

Dunc...I only posted four recordings because I get obsessive....surprise surprise and only listened to those four. There was not another one to post. I usually listen to my Nano (no idea why I didn't buy myself an iPod.....sheeesh!) at the gym and when walking around town with shuffle constantly on as I like to be surprised. It also feels like I'm listening to my own progressive radio station with mixed genres. It works for me. :-D


Entered at Tue Jan 17 14:33:43 CET 2017 from (129.42.208.182)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Woman Artists

Norm, thanks and you're absolutely right on about Bonnie Raitt. My link is to her version of Tennessee Waltz with another great artist Norah Jones.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 14:27:49 CET 2017 from (31.50.123.78)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Take 5

Thanks Bob and Fred. Plenty of music for me to get on with. I feel I missed Patti Smith.

But I really like Patti singing "Sweet Afton" by Burns with Michael Marra in concert in Scotland. Micheal Marra was a great Scottish songwriter who passed away a couple of years ago. See link.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 13:40:09 CET 2017 from (129.42.208.182)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Last 5

Patti Smith - Horses

David Johansen - First solo record containing the classics Funky But Chic, Frenchette, Girls, Donna & Lonely Tenement.

Van Morrison - Keep Me Singing

Stevie Nicks- Deluxe editions of Bella Donna and The Wild Heart contains so many extra goodies.

Amy Winehouse - Back To Black Like Janis, her music was so great it will last forever.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 12:38:43 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Is there still time for my latest played 5? Or should that be lastest 5 played : )

London Calling- The Clash

The Modern Lovers- The Modern Lovers

Marquee Moon - Televison

Live at the El Mocambo (1978 bootleg) - The Cars

Black Sea - XTC

As you can see I've been on a proto/post punk new wave kind of time-travelling journey, revisiting my teenage years recently. : )

The New York Knicks are the Maple Leafs of the NBA. ; )


Entered at Tue Jan 17 11:28:57 CET 2017 from (31.50.123.78)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

You're spot on, Peter. I had worked it out too.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 11:14:36 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Here Come The Girls

My last two “Top 10s” of the year, LPs and songs, have included:

Natalie Merchant, The Unthanks, Amy Helm, Simi Stone, Margo Price, Beyoncé, Fay Hield, Cyndi Lauper, Louise Goffin, Rhianna Giddens, Anna Mitchell, Susannah Hoffs.

Best live concerts over a few years … Natalie Merchant, Carole King, Fay Hield, Emmylou Harris, Thea Gilmore, Eliza Carthy, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, KT Tunstall, Lulu, Martha Reeves, PP Arnold, The Unthanks. I wish I’d seen RoseAnne Fino too.

BUT the remarks about female artists, were I judged to be from a shapeshifter or avatar not a surprise new poster. The right wing comments, the “Real American” stuff. Though it is getting more subtle. It had baked potato when I'd expected a squirrel recipe … so, how are you doing Roz?

Link to my current ear worm, "Funnel of Love" by Cyndi Lauper.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 10:55:40 CET 2017 from (31.50.123.78)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Last Five

Thanks everybody for naming their last five.

South...surely you can't hate all women singers. Just now I'm into music from Texas and am playing Texas Swing. This is after buying an "Asleep At The Wheel Album".

I love this YouTube clip "Bump Bounce Boogie" by Asleep At The Wheel. Really enjoy this lady's singing, but I don't know anything about her. This cheers me up.

BEG. I keep listening to Joe Cocker and love the album. Great to see him in concert. Also, like yourself, I was a fan of Lou and saw a great concert by him about 10 years ago. He said how much he liked the Scottish film "Trainspotting".

The intelligence of my computer! Aagh! When I went back to check the preview of my post, the advertisement had changed to "Trainspotting 2"!


Entered at Tue Jan 17 04:28:39 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: last played

So BEG, you've got it as 4 last played & Peter has it as 5. I'll go w/ him, this time, even though at least we share a continent. No offense intended: Dunc, Wallsend, Peter V, jh, et.al.; in fact w/ today's comments from "Grabby" (what I've decided will be a stand-in reference to the upcoming "leader of the free world"), one begins (again) to wonder if England, Scotland, Australia, Norway or the Great White North might not be preferable homelands to this one. Oh well: the last 5 cd's.

Soundboard mix of Live at the Academy, disc 3

Little Feat, Waiting for Columbus

(Chosen by my spouse, a great shock I must say; enroute somewhere) The Complete Basement Tapes, disc 3

Norah Jones, Day Breaks

T-Bone Walker, Stormy Monday, the Sonny Lester collection recorded 1968


Entered at Tue Jan 17 03:09:23 CET 2017 from (64.229.182.103)

Posted by:

Bill M

It struck me yesterday, listening to "Blood on the Tracks", that "Tangled Up In Blue" could be a sequel to "The Weight" (and also a couple of other Band songs), and "Shelter From The Storm" the prequel. "Lily, Rosemary etc." seems like pure Band pastiche, with a hundred verses just to bug Robbie.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 00:38:41 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: People Have The Power

Patti Smith's anthem.


Entered at Tue Jan 17 00:36:24 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Respect

Bob F. I don't think your point of your resent posts is lost on any of us. If a person doesn't like a particular artist for what ever reason is their own business.

To disrespect all female artists makes no sense and is Trump like. To add to you comments, Bonnie Raitt is a super guitar picker song writer and singer. Many men are honoured to play music with her. There are many more women who deserve recognition for their talents and their work.


Entered at Mon Jan 16 15:27:51 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....maybe next time with Porzingis and we still haven't seen what Sullinger what will add to The Raptors.

Van Morrison - Keep Me Singing (EPK)


Entered at Mon Jan 16 15:01:39 CET 2017 from (64.229.245.155)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Bob F. We both know what memories can bring. They bring diamonds and rust.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JANUARY 12, 2017
Robbie Robertson On The Show

Hi Dunc. The last four recordings I've been listening to:
Adele 25 for South ;-D
Joe Cocker...Mad Dogs and Englishmen
Van Morrison...Keep Me Singing
The Waterboys...Modern Blues

NY Nicks Fans...You have Carmelo, Rose and Noah. What's up?!

The one sport I don't watch is American football. If I had to watch and cheer...Any team but Brady's.


Entered at Mon Jan 16 14:41:35 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Joan Baez doing Oh Freedom

Joan Baez's got more heart, more soul, more courage, more rock and roll then 99% of male artists that ever picked up a guitar.


Entered at Mon Jan 16 14:35:04 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Joan Baez Ain't Gonna Let Nobody

Joan Baez letting freedom ring.


Entered at Mon Jan 16 14:32:24 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Joan Baez

Joan Baez doing her beautiful version of Swing Low Sweet Chariot.


Entered at Mon Jan 16 13:34:59 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Norm, this is very worrying. I watched the video and got really excited about a blonde … but it was a blonde Epiphone guitar. Think i'd better go and get a check up!


Entered at Mon Jan 16 11:34:39 CET 2017 from (114.75.205.187)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I am sure this tiny snippet from Knocking on Heaven's Door from the '74 tour has been posted before but worth looking at again.


Entered at Mon Jan 16 07:27:48 CET 2017 from (210.86.95.167)

Posted by:

Rod

sounds very painful and serious Rocking Chair. Mine was a more simple fracture/break caused by the key in the drill bit whipping around and hitting my finger. I was normally very careful about unplugging before changing a drill ....


Entered at Mon Jan 16 05:28:47 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: BOOBS!!!!

I think all you old geezers should watch this Bellamy Brothers song and vid. Peter V! you better keep the oxygen close....you old fart......you'll probably have a jammer :-)


Entered at Mon Jan 16 02:07:28 CET 2017 from (64.229.182.103)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: Unfortunately, I'm missing this year's MapleBlues Awards, though I've gone to the last 10 or so. Vest performed two years ago, and won last year. Have fun.


Entered at Mon Jan 16 01:57:49 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.51)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Greg Trooper has died.


Entered at Mon Jan 16 00:41:56 CET 2017 from (173.193.202.116)

Posted by:

South

Something prompted me to express myself in a less than gentlemanly fashion but I have forgotten what it was. I am aware that the vast majority of you folks is of the leftist persuasion and I am ware that I am a REAL American and Real Americans are Not politically correct. Someone asked me what my 5 favorite albums were or something like that. I listen to Sinatra. I listen to Harry Nilsson. I listen to Native American material and this afternoon while chowing down on a baked potato cooked off the grid I listened to an old Dean Martin album I had put on cassette. I enjoy Dylan, Tom Waits and The Band. I hate women artists. I take enough of that crap from the old lady. Any other questions before I ask the guy or girl with jh as a moniker what I did to have ONLY my posts removed and NO ONE ELSES?


Entered at Sun Jan 15 23:57:54 CET 2017 from (89.229.90.83)

Posted by:

Andy

Web: My link

Subject: concerts with dylan

I really love to hear concerts The band with guest stars like B. Dylan. greeetzz


Entered at Sun Jan 15 23:00:19 CET 2017 from (114.75.206.74)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I know there is quite a bit of discussion about the post-production work that was put into TLW back in the 1970s but I wonder what was done with the Rhino set. That included a lot more music but was put out after Richard and Rick had passed. I suppose it was 'improved' digitally.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 22:30:31 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Take a seat/geezer time

Westcoaster - I think it's acceptable now for older players to perform sitting down. I noticed Leo Kotke awhile back and when I saw Richard Thompson solo (age 67) last year he sat through his whole show, no matter the pace - I didn't really notice it again after he had played for a few minutes. I think Mark Knofpler might too. It'll probably make the news though when K Richards sits! I think a high bar stool usually precedes a chair -


Entered at Sun Jan 15 22:14:19 CET 2017 from (84.212.118.250)

Posted by:

jh

Insults etc. removed. Calm down or take it somewhere else, please.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 22:12:19 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Thye digets!

Rod, not sure if you noticed, a while before Christmas I cut my first finger on my left hand with a zip cutter. If you aren't familiar that is a 7 inch disc on an electric angle grinder. We cut wire rope, (cable) with it. I slipped and fell forward a little and lucky I didn't cut my finger off. They are a wicked tool. A lot of Polysporin and keeping it clean and bandaged got it healed up.

From the work I've always done with axes, knives, etc I think I've got 9 scars on that finger. I'm not very good I guess, but pretty lucky.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 21:59:26 CET 2017 from (108.2.161.170)

Posted by:

Little Brother

Location: the Guestbook Archives

Subject: Thanks for CF Info!

Thanks for all of the informed responses to my "Chest Fever" question. FWIW, I should've mentioned that I have the 2002 4-CD Rhino edition of TLW (no DVD).

Peter V, it doesn't rise to the level of "great minds thinking alike", but I also had the thought that someday still another "new" remastered TLW might be released with CF and more obscure outtakes, etc.

And unless it's in a format I don't "support"-- I don't have a Blu-Ray player-- I'll probably buy it!

I might argue with myself over whether I need still another "Shape I'm In", "TNTDODD", etc. But I'm truly a sucker for The Genetic Method/Chest Fever. I especially enjoy the bonus of listening to the way Garth continually tweaked and evolved his sound with sythesizers.

Apart from CF, listen to Garth's work on "Four Strong Winds". Many accomplished rock musicians could provide an acceptable keyboard accompaniment-- but only Garth could actually summon the elements!


Entered at Sun Jan 15 21:58:42 CET 2017 from (210.86.95.167)

Posted by:

Rod

I busted my left hand index finger in Feb last year. Still can bend it properly but I can at least play the mandolin again. Was a good exercise though trying to play with out it.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 21:38:16 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Not Quite.......Yet

Well Jerry...messing around down in my music room organizing cassette tapes, (I guess I got about 300) and making the room a little more organized I kept looking at my guitars.

My finger is pretty healed up tho' still pretty painful when I do certain things like pulling the starting rope on my chain saw. Any way I decided to give it a try. I picked up and plugged in my guitar that is easiet to play. My Epiphone (Wiltshire Pro). This guitar has been altered and has a Aria Telecaster neck. Still with the original pickups. One Hummbucker and one double coil. It kicks ass and is beautiful to play I just tried a few cords and a couple of simple riffs. The pain was unbearable. No one who isn't a player can imagine the effort of playing a guitar. Also the work of standing for four hours a night with a guitar hung on your shoulder.

I was encouraged tho' that the finger will still bend. I guess it with take a few months of work and putting up with it until it works normally.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 21:28:10 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: James Hunter Toppermost

Link to my Toppermost on James Hunter … written before the current album.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 20:08:17 CET 2017 from (65.94.49.149)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto & Victoria intermittently

Subject: Superman-X= Bizarro

Its the Bizarro world. An alternate universe.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 20:01:20 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I gotta KNOW!!!

I wondered about that Jerry :-) Have any of yuz been watching Alex Baldwin on SNL???

Last night we wuz in bed when it came on. So Baldwin is Trump. He is assuring everyone he is stepping away from his company and his sons are going to run them. Then he introduces his sons as Beevus and Butthead.....I gawd damn near soiled the bed. He's sure getting a lot of mileage out of this.

I've decided that people like "South" here are "Trumpeters". Blowing their horn just like their choice for their "Commander in Chief". This is really seriously getting to be like a Monty Python film.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 19:29:45 CET 2017 from (31.50.123.78)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

The James Hunter 6 is really good. Thanks.

Hope you enjoy playing it for a long time, Rockin Chair.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 19:26:39 CET 2017 from (65.94.49.149)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto & Victoria intermittently

Subject: JR=JT

I must have been thinking of the mathematical guitarist.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 18:40:46 CET 2017 from (65.94.49.149)

Posted by:

JR

Location: Toronto & Victoria intermittently

Subject: Blown away/David Vest

Hi R.C. In Toronto hopefully to see David Vest win a blues award next week. Air pods. Blown away. Fantastic!


Entered at Sun Jan 15 17:47:51 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Nosey/ JT & Informative

Where in hell you been Jerry? Holidaying in Florida again....you criminal.

Well I just received yesterday, (from Toronto) a new machine. When we moved back to our house here in Port Alice a couple of years ago, we were sorting out and taking to the thrift store a lot of old stuff, (as Dunc was just saying, Hello Dunc!)

My old Gerrard turntable I'd had since 1977 along with the Sanyo tuner and speakers. The turn table was falling apart. A few days ago I was getting a lecture because records, cd's, dvd's, cassettes and video tapes were stacked on the floor here and there in my music room down stairs, (now a days it's called a "man cave"?). I found a really nice book case with sections for records, dvd's etc, (in teak) in Campbell River and cleaned the place up. Now I thought I should start looking for a record player.

On line I found this little outfit. It is called a "Pyle home entertainment" It is built from wood to look like an old RCA player. The top is turn table. The front is done in brass and accepts the cd's. One side is a dock for your smart phone to play or down load music, (even from the turntable). The other side takes cassette tapes. It is a small unit so it doesn't have a big sound but has good clarity.

The astonishing thing, I ordered it on line. The tracking said it should arrive this coming Tuesday. It was sitting on my front step yesterday only 3 days after ordering. The first record to play was a new copy I haven't played yet. I bought it 2 years ago at London Drugs in Courtenay.....Music From Big Pink.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 17:47:07 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The weight

Can't get away from YouTube … the next thing that popped up is The Lumineers, with Simone Felice guesting on drums and vocals at the Duchess County Festival … Simi Stone also takes a verse. The Weight, of course.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 17:37:07 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Tribute to Levon

While looking for James Hunter videos, this Simone Felice one popped up … recorded just after Levon passed away as a tribute. With Simi Stone on violin and vocal too.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 17:32:06 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

"Hold On" the latest James Hunter album is on Daptone Records, the same label as Sharon Jones. A link to a nice "Balcony TV" video of James Hunter Six in London.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 16:42:59 CET 2017 from (65.94.49.149)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: James Hunter

I must comment on James Hunter as I did when my event happened. Its worth mentioning this again since Sharon Jones has died. James Hunter opened for Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings in Victoria a couple of years ago and we were there. It was a small venue and we were sitting in the front of the theatre. He was excellent and faithful to the music form. We highly recommend James Hunter.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 15:57:06 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: James Hunter Six

Try this one. It's like watching a soul band in 1969.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 15:08:42 CET 2017 from (31.50.123.78)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

That's 6 albums and 4 artists I don't know, Peter.

I'm in from the garden and playing 'Good As I Been To You' by Bob Dylan.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 13:07:51 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Last Five played

Last 5 CDs: played

You’re dreaming: The Cactus Blossoms

Hold On: The James Hunter Six

Midwest Farmer’s Daughter: Margo Price:

Ronnie Hawkins (1959)

Linda Jones: Precious, The Anthoogy 1963-72

NEXT PLAY (sitting waiting to be inserted): 22 Classic Cuts: Little Richard


Entered at Sun Jan 15 12:25:30 CET 2017 from (31.50.123.78)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Collecting

I've always been a keen collector - books, records, art, postal history, European cities, plants in my garden. I come from comfortable poverty so I have had no moneyed back ground.

I love looking at collections. In Glasgow we have a world class art collection which was put together by an industrialist. But I like collections which have been put together by ordinary individuals. For example a grocer down the road from me, now deceased, living in an inexpensive flat put together a collection of Arctic/Antartic postal history which he sold to Cambridge University for a vast sum towards the end of his life.

I like when I hear that established stars still keep collecting - Peter V's post on seeing Jimmy Page still collecting. Ricky Ross must have a good collection - great knowledge.

I would like to see some of my fellow GBers collections because we are the true collectors, most people give up.

I've cleared out. Sold my postal history. Cleared out the books gradually apart from history and politics - for over five years, I've read every book I owned then passed them to charity.

Will never part with the art works or many CDS, but I think I would like to clear out some of the CDs. Too many. I have my A collection and my B collection. Maybe time to sell some of the B collection.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 11:48:47 CET 2017 from (31.50.123.78)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: South

Welcome to the guestbook, South. Put the knife down South, nobody likes a murdered cheesecake.

What's on your playlist? Try to get involved in a discussion. You'll feel better. What's the last five albums you have played?

And fellow GBers, you must always remember that getting angry at a laptop only spoils your day...and no other person's. It's not like grabbing somebody in the pub.

I always liked when David P posted his last five albums played. I had never heard of many of them and YouTube is good for listening to other GB guys' music.

Here's the last five albums I've played.

Neil Young - Massey Hall 1971. Really like the album but his talking between the songs could be a lot better. When he mentions Canada, many of the Canadians clap, but he has decided not to live there and goes on about his ranch in the USA.

The Band - my 'new' remastered CD. I wish 'Get Up Jake' had been put on the original album.

Michael Marra - 'Posted Sober'. World Class singer songwriter.Scottish. When Abba broke up, the guy who wrote the music visited him to explore the possibility of working together.

Jock Tamson's Bairns - 'Rare'. My favourite folk band. 'The Band' of traditional music. This is the band that Richard Thompson talks about from time to time.

The Rolling Stones - 'Blue and Lonesome'. The songs are done well. It's a miracle that Keith is still alive.

I enjoyed the link in your post, Ian. Thanks. I always prefer CDs to vinyl.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 11:08:30 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: If I could turn back the hands of time …

Brexit is a longing for the days before rock 'n' roll. To Brexiteers, a map with the Commonwealth in pink is on every wall. I have a set of 1950s school posters.

Happy smiling women picking tea in Ceylon in bright saris.

Happy smiling Aussies in hats with corks shearing sheep.

Happy smiling New Zealanders churning butter.

Happy smiling Ghanaians (Gold Coast then) picking cocoa beans.

Happy smiling Canadian lumberjacks cutting down trees, guarded by a happy smiling Mountie.

Happy smiling South Africans filling baskets with oranges.

Back home, a happy smiling policeman in a helmet stops traffic while two happy smiling white children cross the road, hand in hand.

And all that produce will be sent to the centre of the world (Britain) to be processed for us.

We can add a picture of a serious Winston Churchill with a cigar, writing "History of the English Speaking Peoples" with a note that his mother was American, so that even though they do not acknowledge the Queen, we include our "American cousins" in our happy smiling world.

Yes, that is the world view of the Brexiteer.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 09:10:22 CET 2017 from (114.75.195.5)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I think the UK will be desperate for friends. I read in the paper they are starting to negotiate with New Zealand about a trade deal. Trying to turn back the clock.


Entered at Sun Jan 15 08:19:20 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.51)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Excellent Guardian Article Cautioning Teresa May Regarding Twitler

LINKED is a good & well scoped short article. Here's a excerpt from the end: "May is repeating the same mistake so fatefully made by Tony Blair in 2001. He thought he should be as close to George W Bush as he’d been to Bill Clinton, failing to appreciate that the two men were entirely different, that Bush was surrounded by ideological obsessives who were bent on war with Iraq from the very start. May is being similarly undiscriminating. In her post-Brexit longing for friends and trading partners, she is getting ready to cosy up to a man who makes Bush look like Abraham Lincoln. It may prove to be her costliest error."


Entered at Sat Jan 14 19:07:38 CET 2017 from (24.114.78.86)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bonk: thank for the story. The Yeomen's Terry Watkinson was an old Yonge Street hand by then - a peer of the Hawks. Garth had a copy of their first record (from 1964) and their last (from 1969), "Chains" is the best Danko-ish vocal I know.

Rockin C: Not me. Don't know the movie.


Entered at Sat Jan 14 17:36:03 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Reality in Lines

I think it was Bill Munson the other day who mentioned again Mark Walberg's movie "Shooter".

A good line that very much relates to the attitude of Trump. Near the end of the movie in A mountain cabin Ned Beatty and Danny Glover celebrate what they got away with. Ned Beatty's line "THE TRUTH IS WHAT I SAY IT IS".

That attitude is displayed every day with no shame by this dictatorial character. So Bob there doesn't seem to be much to look forward to.


Entered at Sat Jan 14 17:34:21 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The main thing about these allegations about Trump, whether true or false, is that a very large number are prepared to accept they could be true. That’s the important thing … the general opinion (and everyone I’ve met here thinks they’re entirely credible) is SO low that we can believe it. Is there any other president we might even start to believe that of? Yes, a few “put it about a bit” or even "a lot" and LBJ liked to address aides whilst seated on the toilet, like an 18th century king, but you still wouldn’t even consider allegations of this nature to be plausible.


Entered at Sat Jan 14 16:56:14 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Sweethearts Like You

The entire Donal Trump madness reminds me of the great lines Bob Dylan had used on Sweethearts Like You.

They say that patriotism is the last refuge

To which a scoundrel clings

Steal a little and they throw you in jail

Steal a lot and they make you king



Entered at Sat Jan 14 16:39:44 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Back to the SIXTIES!

Are y'all watching the action in Washington? Demonstrations like the 60's for civil rights of people. One would think that wouldn't be necessary in this day and age.

I guess this person called "South" calls us all assholes because no one here supports the attitudes of a despicable human being who lies and treats people with distain as if he is above them all. That's serving your people?


Entered at Sat Jan 14 14:43:12 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Chest Fever TLW

Chest Fever is on the Danish “Complete Last Waltz” bootleg. The horns are terrific throughout. Richard’s voice is somewhat screwed in the middle bit, but it makes sense with lines like “I don’t think I’m going to last very much longer.” Garth has his “Jupiter Hollow” sound on the solo with Robbie accenting it.

I would have thought it was eminently worth working on… I can see there’s a conceptual leap between replacing an out of tune bass or buzzing organ (as we know they did) and replacing a lead vocal. There is a long deep bassy buzz appearing in places, whether it’s bass pedals or tuba … no idea. The bass guitar is separate from it (I think) and sounds fine. Maybe it was hard to eradicate it in 1976-78, but surely it's easy now.

Just listened twice. No, I don’t understand it. It is a bit messy with tons going on at once, but it always is.

Maybe they're saving it for the extra bonus track (so we have to buy it) on the Blu-Ray 4K HD version due in 2018 for the anniversary of the film's release!

Also, the bootleg, apparently in a straight sequence has stuff near the end in different places to the official one. Notably The Weight moved from Disc 3 (bootleg) to Disc 1 (official), and Acadian Driftwood is between Caravan and Chest Fever on the bootleg.


Entered at Sat Jan 14 14:10:00 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

What kind of a world do we live in when one has to be armed in order to defend oneself in case of being attacked by a cheesecake? Sad times, indeed. ; )


Entered at Sat Jan 14 05:15:14 CET 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

Bonk

Subject: Gail

Bill M. Those Hair singers were bad ass. Wayne St John is I hear, a great pan flutist. Back in 65-66 we belonged to a Kiwanis boys and girls club called Gerrard K and once a week we'd have dance night with some pretty good bands that were arranged by Al Boliska and others of Chum radio fame. I remember one time that Gail got up with the band, I think it was the Yeoman or Decembers Children, and sang We'll sing in the Sunshine to a bunch of aw struct teenagers. Great memories.


Entered at Sat Jan 14 04:39:58 CET 2017 from (64.229.182.103)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno
Web: My link

Subject: Gale Garnett

Rockin C / Bonk: Nice to see Gale Garnett and her big song, "We'll Sing In The Sunshine" being discussed. She talks about writing it in the chapter of the enjoyable "On a Cold Road" (in which a lot of Canuckistani musicians tell their road stories). Something about writing it at Hoyt Axton's home, where she was staying in her mid teens - maybe a family friend? I know that she was writing for the "Toronto Star" in the early '70s because last year I threw out an article I'd clipped out of the paper 45 years ago (!) because it was about the death a couple years earlier of a musician I'd admired (Alex Darou of Kensington Market).

Bonk: I'd forgotten she was in the Toronto cast of "Hair", which means that her last trip to the music charts was "Get Back John" by the Inner City Mission - really a bunch of local "Hair" singers. (The lead voice on that particular record, Wayne St John, does the impressive scatting on "Tears Are Not Enough" (on which Richard Manuel also sings).


Entered at Sat Jan 14 03:46:04 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Gail Garnett

Hi Carl! You are right. She recorded "We'll Sing in the Sunshine" in /64 at age 22, (she is two years older than me). However she wrote the song when she was fourteen.

I haven't heard of her for so long, I forgot she came to Canada. I just remembered she was from New Zealand. She came to Canada at age 11. She did a lot of acting, and in her later years has written books.


Entered at Sat Jan 14 03:22:06 CET 2017 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

Bonk

Subject: Gail Garnet

Hey Norm. Gail's name brings back a lot of memories from my youth in Toronto. It seems like she was everywhere when I was a kid. TV, radio, stage. She was the real deal who could sing her ass off. I'm pretty sure she did that song in her twenties around 1964-65. My favorite song that she sang was 'easy to be hard' which she performed in the stage production of Hair at the Royal Alex in Toronto. Her character was Sheila. I went to see it 4 times. Fast forward 38 years and I'm in this play here on Salt Spring Island and one of the directors is a lady by the name of Rachel Jacobson. She just happens to be the actress that played Chrissy in that same stage production of Hair and was very close to Gail. Have no idea what became of Gail. Maybe John D or Bill M can add something. Now I can't get those two songs out of my head!


Entered at Sat Jan 14 03:13:54 CET 2017 from (114.75.197.153)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I just checked out Chest Fever from TLW on youtube and Richard's voice is really rough on that track. Also, I took a look at Mannish Boy again. In his book Levon said that Muddy Waters kissed him on the forehead when he was going off stage at the end of that song. That doesn't seem to have happened. Muddy walked off the stage to the left but Levon was on the right side of the stage.


Entered at Sat Jan 14 02:02:40 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.155)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Okay.

Norm. You're crazy. :-)


Entered at Sat Jan 14 02:02:10 CET 2017 from (210.86.95.167)

Posted by:

Rod

Chest Fever is not even on the Rhino Box set I have. The video is on youtube but it's not the greatest version of that song and Robbie has issues with his guitar on the first verse. To my mind the Band songs that made it onto TLW were the best performances of those songs they have ever done. CF (like The Weight) didn't really cut the mustard on the night.


Entered at Sat Jan 14 01:57:08 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Tell me I'm crazy!!

Driving home from Campbell River this afternoon listening to CBC. I can't remember what they call this program, but it deals with Canadian talent and the Canadian Song Writer's Hall of Fame (today). My reception was a little poor so I missed the odd word.

My subject here is Gail Garnnett's "We'll Sing in the Sunshine". She wrote this song when she was fourteen and she is from New Zealand. Maybe she came to Canada. Some of her awards for this song, (the host today whose name I can't remember said in 1965 she beat out Bob Dylan). As I said my reception wasn't good so I didn't quite get it.

When I heard this play, after she was finished speaking, I thought ( I never knew Bob Dylan sang that song). As you can see, this is not Bob Dylan, but "Royal Wood". I have never heard of this fellow before, but driving along listening to this does it not sound like Bob Dylan. He even has some of the same phrasing!


Entered at Sat Jan 14 01:01:08 CET 2017 from (108.2.161.170)

Posted by:

Little Brother

Location: the Guestbook Archives

Subject: Why No "Chest Fever" in TLW Album/CD?

Happy New Year, all, if it ain't out o' keepin' with the situation.

Just another Band/TLW question that's been bugging me for a long while:

Why was "Chest Fever" omitted from TLW album/CDs? There's only a snippet of Garth's introduction, which is an annoying and frustrating stub or "tease".

Was there an egregious flaw in the performance or recording that made it unusable? That's not likely, given all of the post-production tweaking and massaging they did to "rescue" other problematic songs.

I can see it being cut from the film due to time constraints. But it's obviously one of The Band's finest signature concert songs, and it's a shame that it isn't showcased in the TLW recordings.

This enquiring mind wants to know! ;)


Entered at Fri Jan 13 23:26:18 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.155)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Luke, once again, your posts do not follow simple logic or the thread.

Now to the subject at hand and your challenge.
You're the guy who has never made himself public. You want to tell everyone who you are, where you work, go right ahead. A large percentage, likely a strong majority of the people here know exactly who i am and where to find me. I've no need to offer my email address or anything to the likes of you at this point in the GB. You are the guy that's hidden himself all along.
And I'm certainly not about to go out of my way and travel to your home. The issue right now is anonymity. You are anonymous, & your posts are inflammatory, & don't follow logic.


Entered at Fri Jan 13 22:25:50 CET 2017 from (24.164.186.176)

Posted by:

In The Pines

Location: The Land of Big Pink

Please, you two or three, take your squabbles to the outhouse, it's not becoming of our Band or Jan's site.


Entered at Fri Jan 13 20:39:08 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Great song

But the photos on the video are even better. Did you get paid for the picture of you?


Entered at Fri Jan 13 18:01:39 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

In the dictionary, LIBERAL is defined as:

1 respecting other opinions. Willing to understand and respect other people’s opinions, behaviour etc, even when they are different from your own. Believing people should be able to choose how to behave.

2 wanting or allowing a lot of political and economic freedom and supporting gradual political, religious or social change.

3 generous, given in large amounts

4 a member of the Liberal Party in the UK

5 education. Concerned with increasing wide and general knowledge: liberal arts, a liberal education

6 not exact ‘a liberal interpretation’ ‘a liberal translation.’

So hopefully, yes. This place is liberal.


Entered at Fri Jan 13 09:34:49 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: La La Land

Link to my review. I think there's enough music in it to be worth connecting!


Entered at Fri Jan 13 03:57:56 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: The answer you've all been waiting for....

The connection is this:

The director of Rock n Roll High School, Allan Arkush, was a film student at NYU. His professor one Martin Scorsese.

While a student at NYU, Mr. Arkush had a job at the Fillmore East. He knew that his teacher was a fan of The Band and wanted to go see them, so he scored tickets for his prof.

Several years later The Last Waltz graced movie screens far and wide.

I don't know if he got an A+ in his film course, but getting tickets for a gig by The Band for your instructor would warrant such a high grade, in my mind. : )

Also Roger Corman who produced Rock N Roll High School, also produced Scorsese's first film Boxcar Bertha.

I would have posted this earth-shattering bit of trivia earllier, had it not been for internet woes the past few days..


Entered at Fri Jan 13 00:48:00 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.155)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete. Don't forget, Luke is anonymous. Many of us here are not. Many are. Luke is one of the many faceless unknowns. He has no actual real life identity known to at least some of the people here. Luke could say he voted for Charles Manson for President, it would be meaningless.



Entered at Thu Jan 12 23:56:26 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Lower Slubovia

Subject: First Choices

I don't want a Monarch.....I always liked a Mercury!


Entered at Thu Jan 12 23:53:13 CET 2017 from (114.75.196.152)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Bill, I don't think those outside the US need to worry too much about Trump. Australia has historical ties to the US but economically we are linked into the Chinese economy. I am sure the Chinese will be happy to invest in Canada and Mexico as well if Trump starts causing grief. It is a pity the US has Mike Pence as VP instead of Sarah Palin. Trump and Palin would have been the dream team. Can you imagine them doing a press conference together.


Entered at Thu Jan 12 23:11:46 CET 2017 from (64.229.181.162)

Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend: I'd say that while Brexit may have entertainment value, the other doesn't. It's worrying. As for the monarchy, I'd start by naming our current GG as Canada's monarch, and then sort out some other arrangement, and am okay with him (and his heirs) 'reigning' in the meantime. Just a low-key presence like they have in Scandinavia and other sensible and successful countries. (Our previous two were women, and I'd've been just as happy to have either of them as monarch.)


Entered at Thu Jan 12 23:10:14 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Well there are limits to secrecy etc, and obviously Trump is beyond any civilised perception of limits.


Entered at Thu Jan 12 22:47:38 CET 2017 from (203.10.111.130)

Posted by:

Doug

Fred, I have no idea on the answer to your quiz (Last Waltz and School of Rock), but am interested if you are up to sharing


Entered at Thu Jan 12 22:36:44 CET 2017 from (114.75.196.152)

Posted by:

Wallsend

A few years back we had a vote in Australia on whether to become a republic or not. Fortunately, the idea was voted down. I am no great fan of the monarchy but the people who wanted a republic had no clear idea on what their own new system was going to look like. It is easy to vote against things but finding better replacements isn't all that easy. I am looking forward to seeing how Brexit turns out and having Homer Simpson as US president can only be entertaining.


Entered at Thu Jan 12 22:33:59 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.155)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete. Some time ago Luke made it clear he voted for trump.


Entered at Thu Jan 12 21:24:55 CET 2017 from (24.114.73.214)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: Thanks - interesting. Good thing Ludwig returned for Big Brown,and that he had better luck with getting Capitol to leave in his bass sounds. I'll add the thought the next four years will be rough for you if you're bugged so much by poor English and clipped communication. To say nothing of incoherence. Bigly.


Entered at Thu Jan 12 21:15:51 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My UK instinct on secret ballot says you shouldn't ask people how they voted.

On the other hand, I get weary of American points to the "Constitution." This was a document created by wealthy slave-holders with a violent streak. We do not adhere to late 18h century standards in … phew! … race relations, gender equality, employment fairness, public hygiene, medicine, housing, technology, education, treatment of children, and above all, possession of lethal weapons … the list is never ending. So why is this political and legal document so important? In the UK we never had a "Constitution" and for years I thought it our loss. In 2017, I consider it our gain.


Entered at Thu Jan 12 17:31:38 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.155)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Luke.
You're anonymous.
You're a Trump supporter.
Are you wearing a white hood with holes for your eyes, mouth , & nose?


Entered at Thu Jan 12 16:40:56 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: MFBP -test pressing by Bob Ludwig

If this has been on here before, I apologise, as I didn't see it.

If you haven't seen it before, it may be of interest.

The article is made up of lots of short paragraphs (and some examples of poor English) but, if you look around paragraphs 16-18 (between a quarter of the way down on my screen), you'll find reference to Bob Ludwig's test pressing of MFBP.

http://www.ocweekly.com/music/why-cds-may-actually-sound-better-than-vinyl-6587249


Entered at Thu Jan 12 15:50:13 CET 2017 from (173.59.47.251)

Posted by:

Luke

Jeff: Try reading The Constitution. You are pathetic.


Entered at Thu Jan 12 12:09:31 CET 2017 from (86.168.32.8)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Testimony

Finished Testimony. Really enjoyed it. I felt it was truthful, but also respectful of fellow Band members.

Sebastian - Tell your Dad I really enjoyed it and I would like to read the other pages. I think those pages could be edited and put into a book like Dylan's Chronicles. I also look forward to Volume 2.

One question - I would like to ask - when thinking of the title of the book, did he think of his song, Testimony, or was the song not even in his thoughts. I like the song.


Entered at Thu Jan 12 05:57:42 CET 2017 from (114.75.65.130)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I reread Levon's book for the first time in a long time just to remind myself of his perspective. Interesting to compare the differing accounts of specific incidents such as the 1970 Hollywood Bowl concert in Robbie and Levon's books.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 23:19:20 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.3)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Luke. No trump supporter has any right to ever claim being able to gauge the difference between fact and fiction or if some one else is or was gullible. If a trump supporter told me he or she bought a black tie or black bag, I'd have to see the tie or bag to believe it was black. etc.

Voting for or supporting trump in any way shape or form seriously impairs anyone's credibility for the rest of their life, & into any future life they may have.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 22:14:53 CET 2017 from (173.59.47.251)

Posted by:

Luke

Jeff: What difference does that make? You should get your facts straight before you repeat slander. That goes for any president, not just the ones that you like or admire.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 20:53:38 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.3)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Luke.
Did you vote for Trump?
Previous posts of yours seemed to indicate that you did.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 19:03:56 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: King Buscuit Boogie & a Lynrd Skynrd Copy "I Know a Little"

Thanks for that Bill! Haven't heard it in a long time. Really my favourite music to play is Boogie Woogie.

This song of Skynrd's that I linked is one we did a lot in my stage years in the lower mainland and Washington State. I had two guitar players in my band that really smoked this song (their strings were on fire).

I would swear that Lynrd Skynrd took a copy off it.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 17:39:01 CET 2017 from (173.59.47.251)

Posted by:

Luke

@Jeff A. How could you be so gullible?


Entered at Wed Jan 11 14:08:06 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: TheHawk / Bill M

I had a very wonderful and funny conversation; with Ronnie Hawkins last night. Called to wish him a Happy Birthday. Talked about Testimony a little bit. The thrust of the conversation was about how he was doing and the winter storm that was surrounding his home. Always up. Always a pleasure to talk to the man "who paved Yonge St."

Happy Birthday again Ronnie. 82 years young.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 13:17:32 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It's been quoted here before, but hey, it's a dull january day. Phil Collins' favourite drummer joke, from "Uncut.":

How many drummers does it take to change a light bulb?

Five. One to change it, and four to explain how much better Steve Gadd would have done it.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 12:00:16 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Quiz time!

There is a connection between the movies Rock'n'Roll High School and The Last Waltz. What is it?


Entered at Wed Jan 11 07:30:36 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.141)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama. First time I heard her full name was tonight. Obama pronounced LaVaughn - Lavon.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 04:51:40 CET 2017 from (74.12.48.207)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

I thought YouTube would have at least one of the tracks John D and I've been talking about, but no. So here's the admirable "Biscuit's Boogie" by King Biscuit and Crowbar. John D would know better, but I think that's Richard Bell on piano and Doug Riley on organ, Larry Atamanuik on drums, Real Lanthier and John Gibbard on guitars, Roly Greenway on bass and presumably Kelly Jay and John Rutter on bg vocals and additional percussion. KBB's doing his best Ronnie Hawkins imitation here and there throughout. Biscuit had joined Hawkins in '67, and Kelly Jay'd been part of the Hawkins crowd since the early '60s, though not a real Hawk until '69. Same with John Rutter, even though under his stage name, Johnny Rhythm, he'd been a Yonge Street fixture since the late '50s and had lost his two key backing musicians, Robbie Robertson and Scott Cushnie, to Hawkins in early '60.

When Crowbar parted ways with Hawkins almost immediately after he with them opened in NY, with the Band in the audience, for Joe Cocker with Mad Dogs and Englishmen, they had three lead singers. Management figured it would be a smart idea to release three 45s on three labels at the same time, each featuring a different singer. Richard Newell (under his stage name KBB) had a decent hit with "Corinna, Corinna"), Johnny Rhythm (under his real name John Rutter) did little with "Mother", and Kelly Jay (under his real name, Blake Fordham) sank like a stone with the very best of the lot, an amazing rock and roll tear through Bill Munroe's "Uncle Pen". Bluegrass meets nuclear warfare. Sadly not on YouTube.


Entered at Wed Jan 11 03:03:41 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.141)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: News leak!

Donald trump paying Russian hookers to piss on the bed Obama & Michelle slept in. No joke.


Entered at Tue Jan 10 18:29:07 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Who Do You love

Link to the scan of my 1970 single which is in the discography here.


Entered at Tue Jan 10 18:25:25 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Delighted with the sound of the Ronnie Hawkins. Right from "40 Days" there's a great crunchy guitar sound. My introduction was the 1970 vinyl LP "Arkansas Rock Pile" sold as "Ronnie Hawkins Featuring The Band", and it did on one side, or rather The Hawks on "The Best of Ronnie Hawkins" release with Who Do You Love, Come Love, Arkansas, Say Boss Man, mojo Man and Bo Diddley.

On the other side, Forty Days is entitled Thirty Days on the sleeve. I expect Chuck Berry approved!

It was an awful pressing, and released in the couple of years where Major Minor distributed Roulette in the UK, and even gave them their own label. It was a blatant cash in on the Band, and on the Ronnie Hawkins "Rolling Stone" article.

The single, which i bought, was one of the very few on UK Roulette in 1970 and was Who Do You Love / Bo Diddley. The credit reads "Ronnie Hawkins With The Band."


Entered at Tue Jan 10 15:12:19 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Don't know what happened to my post of 10 minutes ago. Trying again. Yes Bill, that is indeed the Canadian cover. I still like the Lonely Weekends; from the Canadian version; because of the backup vocals.


Entered at Tue Jan 10 06:53:08 CET 2017 from (210.86.95.167)

Posted by:

Rod

I'm worried about 2017 too Peter.


Entered at Tue Jan 10 05:10:52 CET 2017 from (24.114.57.30)

Posted by:

Bill M

John D: I think that looking-out-the-window cover was used in Canada only. Perhaps they chose the older, pastoral shot of him sucking on a blade of grass looked more salable as C&W?

In any case, I much prfer ronnie's first Cotillion LP, especially "Matchbox", where Duane Allman, Scott Cushnie (Magoo from the Suedes for those who've read "Testimony") and King Biscuit Boy wailing away like crazy. Larry Atamanuik was at the session too, but didn't get to play. (Tom Dowd used his regular guy, Roger Hawkins.)

Scott Cushnie's next "big-time" recording was Aerosmith's "Toys in the Attic" album (and tour). He's nothing if not flexible.

Come to think of it, if the Hawkins 5-fer had included the "Mojo Man" album, they would have had two very strong, very different versions of "Matchbox", the first with Robbie, Levon, Rick and Jerry (and perhaps others).


Entered at Tue Jan 10 04:06:25 CET 2017 from (67.84.76.51)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Stephen Stills Best Band.

Linked


Entered at Tue Jan 10 03:12:57 CET 2017 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Belated Holiday greetings to all esp Peter V. (I'm still waiting on first grandchild).

Norm, I just might take a page from your book. Retirement is not an option but scaling down might be necessary

Link is to the Hag.

Haven't been following all the threads but WTF is Kevin doing in Mongolia?


Entered at Mon Jan 9 23:39:46 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Your right Bill. It was recorded in Canada. The album was called The Hawk; but it had Ronnie inside a barn looking out a window; with a hat on. I swear I owned this album; because I have the Canadian mp3's. Searched high and low and don't have the album.


Entered at Mon Jan 9 23:30:30 CET 2017 from (24.114.78.90)

Posted by:

Bill M

Adding to John D's post, Hawkins' band at the time his second Cotillion album was recorded was Jim Atkinson, Terry Danko, Dwayne Ford, Hugh Brockie and Brian Hilton. They were incredibly tight, and turned in a superior performances of "Lonely Weekend" and "Patricia" as John notes. However, I think they were recorded in Toronto to stay on the good side of the CanCon regs. The songs were on the Cdn pressings of the LP, but not the US, which also used the album cover from Hawkins' 1968 canada-only "Home From The Forest" album (with King Biscuit on Harmonica, John Till on guitar, Buddy Cage on steel and Brian Ahearn on production.


Entered at Mon Jan 9 23:26:33 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Ronnie Hawkins 5-for-1

Just tried to look it up … incredibly complicated. It's Warner, not Universal. Roulette was a part of Parlophone that Universal were made to sell to Warner by the regulator. Cotillion / Warner / Rhino are all Warner (I think. It changes so often).


Entered at Mon Jan 9 22:41:13 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Original Album Series

Excellent sound. Didn't seem quite as good on "The Hawk" Album. Bill M will know this; that Ronnie recorded a couple of different versions of Lonely Weekends from The Hawk Album. One was with Duane Allman & friends and the other, he brought down Atkinson Danko & Ford to sing back up. Superior version I think.


Entered at Mon Jan 9 22:33:10 CET 2017 from (24.114.78.90)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I doubt that they know even that much. EMI owns Roulette, and so the "Best of" and "Mojo Man", albums of material recorded with Henry Glover between '61 and '64 - including "Bo Diddley", "Who Do You Love", and three cuts sung by Levon.


Entered at Mon Jan 9 21:21:33 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ronnie Hawkins

Listening to the "Ronnie Hawkins" album; otherwise known as the first album. Excellent quality so far. Nice looking label.


Entered at Mon Jan 9 20:47:45 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks Bill. The Ronnie Hawkins "Five For 1" release is credited to Parlophone / Cotillion / Warner / Rhino, which is how it is with Universal. Parlophone represents EMI, who issued the first two in the UK on Columbia not Parlophone. I think we should not labour under the delusion that the compilers at Universal knew anything beyond what they already had rights on.


Entered at Mon Jan 9 20:05:27 CET 2017 from (24.114.78.90)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Bell and Atamanuik were in the group of Hawks that left Hawkins en masse and recorded "Official Music" as King Biscuit Boy and Crowbar. The "Gooduns" tracks that those two guys were on were actually leftovers from "Official Music". The cuts are phenomenal - so much better than the turgid blues that makes up most of the earlier LP. ("Corrina" and "Biscuit's Boogie" are honourable exceptions. Listen to Bell and Atamanuik on the latter.)

Re the Hawkins 5-fer, I don't see why the packager wouldn't have used "The Best of Ronnie Hawkins or "Mojo Man" instead of "Folk Ballads". Both are much more interesting, both musically and historically."


Entered at Mon Jan 9 19:59:48 CET 2017 from (78.211.217.15)

Posted by:

Peace

Web: My link

What a nice website!


Entered at Mon Jan 9 19:59:05 CET 2017 from (78.211.217.15)

Posted by:

Pamela

Web: My link

I love the brand for ever


Entered at Mon Jan 9 18:36:53 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: King Biscuit Boy

I found an import copy of "Gooduns" by King Biscuit Boy today. Richard Bell and Larry Atamanuik are on it, and their memberships of Full Tilt Boogie Band and Seatrain are credited, and also both are "Courtesy of Grossman-Glotzer Management." The front sleeve has a train with "Helena, Ark" above it. The King Biscuit Flour Hour came from Helena, but I'd guess everyone in Toronto in 1971 also knew the Levon connection.


Entered at Mon Jan 9 17:40:14 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 2017 …

From The Sunday Times. Czar Nicholas II announced at the end of 1916 that it had been the worst year of his reign in every way. Still, he went on to say, therefore 1917 can only be better!


Entered at Mon Jan 9 17:36:30 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 5 x Ronnie

I did the same, John. The original CDs are 20 years old now, and modern remastering should be better (assuming they've done it).


Entered at Mon Jan 9 16:01:20 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: The Hawk

Even though I own them all, I purchased the 5 album Original Album Series of Ronnie Hawkins yesterday. Includes 5 of Ronnie's albums. This will make a good back up and although I haven't received it yet, it looks like a good pkg.


Entered at Mon Jan 9 00:54:05 CET 2017 from (74.12.48.207)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Syrinx

As I mentioned a few days ago, I picked up "Mojo" (issue #278) for the Robbie interview. Finally got around to reading the rest of the magazine, and have gotten only as far as the letters to the editor, where I learned the exciting news that the two early '70s LPs by the Moog-led band Syrinx were recently reissued, along with a bonus LP of live and studio stuff. The link is to my favourite of their songs, the haunting and beautiful "December Angel".

If JTF was still with us, I would have told him that after the album the original trio (John Mills-Cockell, Doug Pringle and Allan Wells) added singer / drummer Malcolm Tomlinson, an Englishman who'd previously played Band covers in one of Martin Barre's early groups. (Some of the material recorded by the four-man lineup ended up on a subsequent sorta-solo release by leader John Mills-Cockell as JMC Heartbeat.)

All of their records appeared on the True North label owned by Bernie Finkelstein, who'd managed the group Kensington Market, on whose second album, "Aardvark", Mills-Cockell had played. (I don't know if he was the first to use a specific sound to denote snowflakes falling, but he certainly used it to wonderful effect on "Half-Closed Eyes" from '69; and was later used by Tomita and even Garth Hudson.)

Rockin C: I must've mentioned that between Kensington Market and Syrinx, Mills-Cockell led a Vancouver hard-rock band, Hydro-Electric Streetcar, who later evolved into Fireweed, who I know you know.

And before any of that he did three LPs with a multi-media outfit called Intersystems; I found a recent European box-set of those albums under the tree with my name on it two weeks ago.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 22:59:12 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.156)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, if that gal Kevin was smoking with is an Ulabator he got more than he bargained for.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 19:59:07 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Kevin & RoseAnn

Mike, you're probably right about the NHL. If I remember correctly I think Kevin is a Liverpool supporter as far as football goes.

By the way I know you've inquired about RoseAnn's music in the past. She's going to be live on WDST Radio Woodstock tomorrow night at 10pm. They have a great dj by the name of MK who in addition to being the afternoon dj has a show called Locally Grown. RoseAnn is playing in the Hudson Valley this coming Saturday at The Falcon Underground . The Falcon is in our home town of Marlboro so it's really a special night.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 19:03:10 CET 2017 from (76.68.42.99)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Bob F, I think Kevin is more of an NHL kind of guy, although I could be wrong.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 15:44:43 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Ulan Bator is the capital of Mongolia. We could try writing to Kevin. He is probably the only Kevin in Ulan Bator.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 15:27:32 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: What about Kevin?

Jeff, no worries. I'm sure Kevin will surface soon. He might be living in a foreign country under another name but he's going to show. With the NFL playoffs under way the Super Bowl is around the corner. You remember how much those silly American Buff's and Betty's pluck his nerves. With their stupid Super Bowl parties and their stupid commercials for their mediocre automobiles. He won't be able to resist unleashing a tirade. He'll surface.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 15:11:23 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Good old Movies

Watched the "Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada" last night. First time I got to see the whole movie. Always like to see those cameo performances of Levon Helm. He always did a superb job of making himself the part.

The young man, "Barry Pepper" who plays the border patrol man is from Campbell River here on our island.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 13:05:08 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I saw a beautifully battered "Cry of Love" yesterday. Even battered, it's never a cheap album, but this had all the marks of the era, like little spots where hot burning stuff dropped on it. I rather liked it because it was just SO well-worn, but also I would guess in very bad audio condition too. I passed.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 11:42:23 CET 2017 from (114.75.79.209)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I have just been going through and sorting out my music collection. It is strange how you have an emotional attachment to some cds (Of course, originally I had the attachment to the old LP. I don't think this will ever apply to mp3 files) because they meant a lot to you at a particular point in your life. The Cry of Love and Rainbow Bridge are two such cds for me. I just look at the covers and it takes me back to a different time and place.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 11:20:28 CET 2017 from (114.75.79.209)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Those five cd packs are really good value. I have them for Santana and Paul Butterfield. I just ordered an Al de Meola one and am thinking of getting Chick Corea and Joe Farrell as well. I am not sure about Ronnie Hawkins. I was just listening to cd one of A Musical History and it is all pretty basic stuff. I like rock 'n roll but I cannot listen to it in large doses. I am working my way through the 17 cd John McLaughlin collection at the moment.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 10:53:08 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: 5 x Ronnie

The Universal "Original Albums" series where you get five CDs for the price of one has reached Ronnie Hawkins. It includes "Ronnie Hawkins" (1959), Mr Dynamo, Folk Ballads, "Ronnie Hawkins" (1970) and The Hawk. All in facsimile card sleeves. A bargain at just over £2 per CD.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 00:29:39 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: In Conclusion

They should ...DUMP TRUMP!.......and be SHOOTIN PUTIN!......That's all I got to say.


Entered at Sun Jan 8 00:11:17 CET 2017 from (173.3.50.196)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Talk about killing conversation. Kevin's vanished. Either we blew his cover, or the Mongol gal did him in anyway. In any event, I hope he completed the goal of the mission beforehand. Looks like it's just one of the things we'll never know about here.


Entered at Sat Jan 7 23:45:43 CET 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

Profundity does that sometimes...


Entered at Sat Jan 7 22:56:08 CET 2017 from (79.75.177.101)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Robertson On World Cafe


Entered at Sat Jan 7 21:59:36 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Dunno. Seems to have totally killed conversation!


Entered at Sat Jan 7 07:22:21 CET 2017 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

Amazing, Bill! And it sounds so profound.


Entered at Sat Jan 7 06:11:21 CET 2017 from (76.66.108.179)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the latest GB haiku

My link, subject: great
Very great job the website
Is fabulous good

-------- Oceane


Entered at Fri Jan 6 23:27:27 CET 2017 from (90.61.212.67)

Posted by:

oceane

Subject: great

The very great job the website is fabulous good


Entered at Fri Jan 6 22:11:56 CET 2017 from (24.114.66.165)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Lyricist for King Crimson, eh? Anything as understandable as those that Rob Francis just posted?


Entered at Fri Jan 6 18:19:29 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Takeaway

Link to the new video for "Takeaway" title track of the new album by Richard Palmer-James, who was the original guitarist with Supertramp, as well as lyricist for King Crimson.


Entered at Thu Jan 5 22:52:15 CET 2017 from (114.75.72.224)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Robbie's telecaster!!!


Entered at Thu Jan 5 05:33:09 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Academy of Music Sides 3-4

Listening today to the Academy of Music box. Sides 3-4 Produced by Sebastian Robertson. I'm sure glad he got the opportunity to do it. I love the soundboard recordings. So alive & crisp. Here's hoping he gets to work some more magic in 2017.


Entered at Thu Jan 5 05:07:53 CET 2017 from (76.66.112.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

The band is the Band, as far as I'm concerned.


Entered at Wed Jan 4 22:41:47 CET 2017 from (203.10.111.131)

Posted by:

Doug

Subject: the

I'm plodding through Testimony, and enjoying it greatly. The biggest shock for me is that according to Robbie, it's "the Band" and not "The Band".


Entered at Wed Jan 4 21:41:47 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Midwestern Farmer's Daughter

My album of the year. Just looked online and Margo Price is in the UK this month! Just got tickets for Oxford … easier drive than London!


Entered at Wed Jan 4 09:55:47 CET 2017 from (79.75.168.246)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: 45 Years Ago: Bob Dylan Joins the Band for New Year’s Eve Show

It can't be 45 years ago!


Entered at Wed Jan 4 09:00:56 CET 2017 from (210.86.92.88)

Posted by:

Rod

Well done Jan - and your boy. Ben Pike, agree with your post on both Small Town Talk and on the post TLW. That was the major disappoint for me with Testimony as that era wasn't covered. I would have loved to hear an album that built on The Well/NLSC/Right As Rain. Speaking of RAR (a new acronym) - that seems to me as a song about Robbie meeting Dominique.


Entered at Wed Jan 4 03:27:37 CET 2017 from (76.66.112.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

While looking for something else, I spotted the January "Mojo" with an interesting interview with Robbie about "Testimony". There was also a "Life" tribute to Bob Dylan (with a gold star at top right noting that he's a Nobel Prize Winner! in case you missed the news, but now that you have you'll buy the magazine to impress the elites, or maybe give to the elites at Christmas to cheer them up after their drubbing in the recent US election). Has some nice shots of various Hawks, plus a two-page spread with more photos of Dylan and the Hawks / Band.


Entered at Tue Jan 3 17:44:24 CET 2017 from (76.66.112.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

Wallsend: Must mean something. Maybe it wasn't taped in the basement at all, or maybe it was done without Dylan so wouldn't have suited the official Dylan / Hawks release.

Am sitting in the corner of the livingroom typing away. A few minutes ago I heard Levon's voice - turned out that "The Shooter" had come on the TV, which my wife was watching.


Entered at Tue Jan 3 12:24:06 CET 2017 from (114.75.193.72)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Just looking at the songs that are on the 1975 Basement Tapes and it seems that Ain't No More Cane was one of the few songs that was not included as bonus material on the remastered cds. I wonder why that is.


Entered at Tue Jan 3 10:10:28 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.115)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Very subtle Pete :-)


Entered at Tue Jan 3 09:54:28 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Smoking with Mongolian Women

Intriguing. Inner or Outer? Tipped or Untipped?


Entered at Tue Jan 3 00:44:21 CET 2017 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Secret Agent Man

Kevin, I've been wondering for a long time now and I'm just going to come right out and ask you. Are you a Secret Agent Man?


Entered at Mon Jan 2 20:12:03 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.115)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin.
Smoking with Mongolian women, well, folks..
We may have heard the last of Kevin.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 16:51:34 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Rockin' Chair

Awwwww


Entered at Mon Jan 2 16:40:47 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The trained eye

What in hell is Kevin doing trying to sell running shoes to Chinese?? Isn't that like selling refrigerators to Eskimos?? I always knew that guy was crazy.

I click on that Face Book thing to see what some body has said to me. There staring at me "people you may know" is that gawd damn John Donabe! John! get off my computer!


Entered at Mon Jan 2 16:38:24 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Washington - the last post?

I've seen two tickets for the 28 November 1965 Washington DC concert. Both are "stubs", that is the retained portion after the venue staff have torn off the other half.

One shows the left-hand portion and, rather strangely, it has the start time of the concert printed on it as 3.00 pm.

The other one shows the right-hand portion and, while there is no printed start time visible, it does say "GOOD ONLY SUN. AFT." Howeber, there is part of a hand-stamp overprint that reads: " ME IS 8:00 PM" (presumably the right-hand part of "START TIME IS 8:00 PM" or similar).

It seems that the tickets were misprinted.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 15:37:54 CET 2017 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Fact Checking / Bill M

Bill M. You would have been the ultimate Fact Checker for Testimony. In Fact, I would hire you in a nanosecond for anything Canadian; in the world of music. You have an encylopedic mind. Rob Bowman; however did a good job checking facts; of over 50 years.

BTW I'm listening to Bobby Bland this morning; including Share Your Love With Me; from the early 60's. Richard did a beautiful job on this song; on Moondog Matinee.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 15:08:17 CET 2017 from (202.140.108.119)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Shoes continued......

Arrived to Hong Kong a few days ago and on the subject of footwear.....100% of people here are wearing multi-coloured running shoes with pants rolled up short....not a brown shoe to be seen !

Jeff : just shared a smoke with a lady from Mongolia - first time I have ever actually met someone from there and I thought of you.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 14:32:02 CET 2017 from (202.140.108.126)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Sir Ray Davies ! The Year of the Rooster is already a good one even if it hasn't officially started.

by the way, September 29th, 1979 and it lasted an hour...even if Bill M, Peter V and Ian W will claim 45 years from now that it was Pittsburgh October 2 and it only lasted 5 mins....don't believe them.....I was there and I'm not budging..


Entered at Mon Jan 2 11:25:03 CET 2017 from (31.48.0.179)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Graham Nash

This is a link to Ricky Ross interviewing Graham Nash on Radio Scotland. It's a very good programme and well worth a listen.

Happy New Year everybody.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 05:50:16 CET 2017 from (76.66.112.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pages 244-45 of "Testimony" have Robbie just back in NYC from Dylan's Euro-tour, hanging out with Brian Jones and John Hammond Jr - but there's no mention of Hammond's "I Can Tell" 45 with Robbie on guitar, Bill Wyman on bass and Jones in the studio. On page 263, we have Robbie heading off several weeks later to record Hammond's "I Can Tell" album while Rick, Richard and Garth go off to find a rehearsal space - with no mention of Rick having played on most of the rest of that album. None of this is secret stuff, especially the session with Wyman, which Wyman's own book provides dates for, so fact-checking would have been very straightforward.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 04:08:25 CET 2017 from (173.127.188.69)

Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: The short shelf life of the lighting in the bottle.

Don't know how it went over here in the GB but I found "Small Town Talk" very informative and just the experience to cap off this most depressing and horrible of years. I always found the demotic portrayal of Albert Grossman supect on a few counts, and then there is the more heartbreaking aspects of The Band. The book sort of spells out what was obvious about those who made Levon a victim, and Rick and Richard's utter unpreparedness to handle wealth and fame.

The idea was to keep recording and going on as a Band after TLW, and given NLSC and the studio side of TLW it might have worked. Into the eighties, baby boomer fans started craving the veteran groups like nobodies business. I thought John Simon's comment that the reassembled group because a favorite of trashy rednecks was interesting, perhaps using Levon as a way to refight the civil war? Anyway, as with most sad stories, what resonates is the waste, waste, waste. Well, Happy New Year, let's hope it surprises us.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 03:09:26 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.115)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Congratulations Jan!


Entered at Mon Jan 2 02:52:50 CET 2017 from (187.216.84.50)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: Grammy

Truly a brilliant achievement to be nominated. Congratulations to you and to your family.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 02:45:40 CET 2017 from (46.212.2.117)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Woo-hoo! Magnus/Cashy Cat is nominated for a Grammy for best R&B song! LA, here we come!


Entered at Mon Jan 2 01:21:48 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Ooops .....

That Washington concert review was actually headlined "DYLAN PLEASES YOUNG AUDIENCE", not the way I wrote it in my previous post. Pardon my haste in typing. I'll put it down to it being Hogmanay.


Entered at Mon Jan 2 01:12:39 CET 2017 from (173.3.49.115)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

NWC. Or you're just drunk again. :-)


Entered at Sun Jan 1 20:36:26 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Crank it up to 11

80s is different, Norm. Plus 3000 watts transistor and 100 watts valve is a different animal. In 1968/69, we were using 100 watt amps with two 4 x 12” cabinets for guitar, 2 x 15” for bass. Two Leslies for organ. Mic’ing into a PA system was relatively new, though obviously the way to go.

I recall seeing the Flying Burrito Brothers in 1971, with tiny Fender valve practice amps (15 watt? ) mic’d into a huge PA. It was way the best sound I had ever heard on a stage. I assume that’s how you were doing it in the 80s. It’s what most bands do now, The individual Marshall stacks (sometimes two per musician) was very late 60s / early 70s. Then the sound guy started centralizing everything.


Entered at Sun Jan 1 20:15:40 CET 2017 from (87.152.124.42)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: The history of the buccaneers of America

I’m studying books from before the Berne Convention to determine its blessings and stumbled up on ‘The history of the buccaneers of America’ by Alexander Olivier Exquemelin (1678).

A good read for Norm (link: free download).


Entered at Sun Jan 1 18:26:37 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: New Sherlock

There's a new one on PBS tonight at 9!


Entered at Sun Jan 1 17:29:56 CET 2017 from (87.152.124.42)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Old Rockers

The old rock star has more time to produce juice, which make his autobiography spicier, the better read. Wanna get rich on your bior? (spoiler alert) Live long and die old. Now growing old isn’t always easy, special when you’re rocking. But see it this way, every year is a bonus; thousands of extra copies. So you just hang in there old rocker.

Ilkka, you don’t only hold Abba, you’ve got Aki Kaurismaki too.


Entered at Sun Jan 1 17:20:08 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Amp ! & The Watts

I don't know how it was done in your world Peter. In mine when I had my Band cranked up and really going flat out on the gigs, (seven nights a week thru' the eighties) I owned the sound system, 3000 watts total of bass, mids and high. It had become a trend for some lead guitarists to use smaller amps for effect, however they were all miked thru the main system. The value of their own amp really had not much to do with how loud the band may be. That was all on the sound man.

I talked before about how, (of course not in the 60's) the sound man would use a "real time analizer" and blow pink sound thru' the building when we set up to set the eq graph before the room filled up with bodies and noise. Long before that it just had to be done right to start with by the band playing.

So the crazy old Scandinavian has to try and start the new year off right by coming clean from all his wicked sneaky ways. It ain't workin'....he still just CAN'T BE TRUSTED :-)


Entered at Sun Jan 1 15:12:58 CET 2017 from (83.249.162.151)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Bye bye (take two)

I am a liar. Most of all, I have lied to my gb friends NORBERT and JEFF. The truth is: I am not a heavy-drinker. - All this started when I was seven years old and learned to write. I wrote stories. My dad said: "We have to take our son to a doctor. He is a dreamer, or crazy." The doctor meant a needle in your butt so I said I am tired, not dreaming.

I discovered a new tactics for ten years later in the sixties. As a schoolboy band bassist people thought that I may want to buy drugs. I said: "No, I drink vodka". (which I , of course, didn't.) Some people wanted even to buy drugs from me, a longhaired hippie. I gave the same answer. I come from a culture where being drunk was socially accepted. Real men drank vodka, period. Unfortunately, I had inherited migrain from my mother's side. By that time only feminine types had migrain. Guess what? "I have drunk too much vodka!"

This became my socially accepted lifetime lie. It worked well. Most of the time. I got fired only once because of (non-existing) drinking habit. - I read about Winston Churchill. Someone had estimated his daily whisky drinking as a gasoline tank in an average Morris or Austin. In other words: impossible. He just fooled Adolf Hitler! I found even Bob Dylan as my soul mate. He poured whisky over his head and coat before he went - as sober - to country store. I had a vodka bottle full of water in my car and drank directly from the bottle whenever I met a police car.

I could not fool ROCKIN CHAIR, though. He said that I had a Scandinavian cuckoo bell in my head or something. How could he know it? Maybe because tugs sail so slowly that the captain can register the new curtains in a beach house.

A liar is always a liar. Now I shall move to an all-female forum where I play the role as a Norwegian gay. Here in Sweden the gay guys get always the hottest chicks. A paradox, maybe, but I can't help if I'm lucky.


Entered at Sun Jan 1 13:56:15 CET 2017 from (87.152.124.42)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften (Musil)

Putin & Trump speak the ice cold language of all those who feel humiliated and believe that now their time has come. There are no arguments against this revenge feelings.

Is this dangerous? Yes it is. But Robert Musil learns us that, no matter what, no one can change the course of the world. No politician can change that, it comes anyway.

Kafka tells there are infinite lots of hope, but not for us. He also means that there is no way, you can’t change the way things are going.

Sounds sad, but it isn’t, if you embrace this fact, then there is room to let grow all those endless little chances into moments of joy and if you’re lucky, so every now and then, you may find a diamond called happiness and if it’s just for a split second .... and see here is the meaning of life.

May it happen to you in 2017.


Entered at Sun Jan 1 13:28:56 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

In Testimony, Robbie describes The Hawks as having 3 Fender Bassman amps when he joined. In 1959, that was at 50 watts valve powered and as loud as you could get, designed for the Precision Bass, but also louder for guitar and piano than the 30 watt amps most bands were using up until around 1965 / 1965. So presumably they were always "loud" compared to the opposition.


Entered at Sun Jan 1 12:46:45 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The volume issue on The Hawks reminds us of passing time. In modern terms, or indeed in late 60s terms, they cannot have been particularly loud. There was a major leap in amp power around that time … maybe they were the first, but The Beatles "Eight Days A Week" shows them in stadiums using 100 watt Vox amps and the stadium tannoy system. Only a year later though Hendrix was incredibly loud, as were Cream … sod maybe The 1966 tour was simply the first "very loud indeed" one.


Entered at Sun Jan 1 11:41:36 CET 2017 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: The irony of Levon's departure

It is perhaps ironic that Dylan and the Hawks left DC so promptly because they didn't see the one review I have (WASHINGTON STAR,29 November 1965). It is headlined "DYLAN PLEASES YOUNG DYLAN". The reporter/reviewer (sensibly in my view) took the precaution of talking to people who had actually paid to be there.

Of Dylan, he wrote: "Make no mistake, this man is a thinker, perhaps the only we have on the popular scene". And the comments on the Hawks were plain and factual: "They produced a niagara of sound. All began at top volume and later increased the decibels".

At the start, the reporter listed some of the songs: She Belongs To Me, Gates of Eden, Baby Blue, Desolation Row, Love Minus Zero, Mr Tambourine Man, I Don't Believe You, It Ain't Me Babe, Ballad of a Thin Man, Positively 4th Street and "Just Like a Rolling Stone". The latter may simply be "Rolling Stone" but, if he asked fans and took notes, he might have mixed things up and got an amalgam of "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" and "Rolling Stone". There was no encore.

.


Entered at Sun Jan 1 02:39:50 CET 2017 from (125.174.241.231)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: The Boss

Al: This coming Monday on the WTF podcast hosted by Marc Marron the guest will be Bruce Springsteen.


Entered at Sun Jan 1 02:38:05 CET 2017 from (125.174.241.231)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Year of the Rooster

Happy New Year everyone!


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