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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

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Entered at Fri Nov 24 18:30:01 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Jon Boden review

Link to my review of Jon Boden & The Remnant Kings. Great show from the ex-Bellowhead lead singer, and he played the whole of his solo album "Afterglow" in sequence too. Eleven piece band.


Entered at Fri Nov 24 07:48:11 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Thanks Giving

Our thanks giving was weeks ago.


Entered at Fri Nov 24 06:28:24 CET 2017 from (166.216.157.84)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Zimmy

Does Bob have a wife these days? Has he since Sarah? Happy Thanksgiving everybody! Is this celebrated in Canada?


Entered at Fri Nov 24 04:53:21 CET 2017 from (69.203.125.109)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Happy Thanksgiving all! Saw a sizzling show last night by Bob Dylan and Mavis Staples and their bands at NYC's Beacon Theatre, where they're in the middle of a 5-show run. Both were in fine voice and great spirits, with Bob even grinning some crazy grins a couple of times during Thunder on the Mountain. Mavis is touring on a brand new album; Bob brought his Sinatra material and some high-energy and surprising (even for him!) rearrangements of his classics. Wonderful show... their flames still burn bright.


Entered at Thu Nov 23 18:58:28 CET 2017 from (174.232.133.156)

Posted by:

Calvin

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Trying to decide between King Crimson or Squeeze tomorrow night. Kansas Saturday night.


Entered at Thu Nov 23 17:19:08 CET 2017 from (24.184.49.112)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you! For people who love the Band, it's not just a U.S. of A. American National Holiday. It's a Musical Holiday incomplete without watching The Last Waltz.


Entered at Wed Nov 22 20:57:01 CET 2017 from (85.164.75.178)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

TWoF, Dylan, Danko, Canadian Hall of Fame!


Entered at Tue Nov 21 18:40:53 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Amy Helm

Jon, I've watched and enjoyed it and added a link above.


Entered at Tue Nov 21 17:39:26 CET 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Amy Helm--"When I Paint My Masterpiece"

Go to youtube; search for "amy helm masterpiece". Lovely.


Entered at Mon Nov 20 11:53:58 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: A Little Pain

My favourite track on the new Margo Price album, "All American Made" is "A Little Pain" (Linked).

Note the lyric:

I'm so tired but I can't sleep

Too many obligations I'm trying to keep

Gotta please everybody except for myself

But like Levon said, "Ain't in it for my health"

So it joins the list of songs with Band references.


Entered at Sun Nov 19 22:56:09 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: J Geils

Thanks for that Bill. I should have looked for the date first. He died just a few days before we left Australia to come home. He died April 11 and I believe we left Brisbane April 18.


Entered at Sun Nov 19 16:17:33 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.118)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Location: Johnny Cash Sent Me
Web: My link

Subject: Neil Young:..... Everything is free.

"Hi there,
December 1st will be a big day for me. The Visitor will be coming to your town. I will be going to my town. You will be able to hear me and see me. My archive will open on that same day, a place you can visit and experience every song I have ever released in the highest quality your machine will allow. It’s the way it’s supposed to be. In the beginning, everything is free.
Lots of Love,
neil


Entered at Sun Nov 19 05:50:31 CET 2017 from (65.92.194.249)

Posted by:

Bill M

Rockin C: I think we noted J Geils's passing. I remember saying here that I'd seen them in the early '70s - phenomenal live, even though I've never liked their records. Can't think why I would have noted that otherwise. For what it's worth, they and Gentle Giant opened for Jefferson Starship.


Entered at Sun Nov 19 02:47:51 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Maybe I just wasn't around

I don't recall ever hearing this guy mentioned on this site. J Geils died earlier this year.

It is raining and blowing like hell. With the fire place burning upstairs and the wood stove down stairs I'm enjoying laying around, cleaning up my shop down stairs a little, playing a little guitar and......I don't have to be out there any more. What a great feeling.

I found some old J Geils music laying around. I used to like his band way back when, Some good stuff. One of those Young brothers who started AC-DC died today. Only 64 with dementia sad.

It is so good to be able to lay back with no jobs to think about.....and just enjoy the music.


Entered at Sat Nov 18 18:37:40 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Van no. 2

Roll With The Punches mixed old R&B with his own stuff and new compositions too. Maybe this is the second part of the project, this time standards oriented. As you say, Christmas is Coming … and with it comes the Great American Songbook.

Listening to Transformation, my favourite track on Roll With The Punches. It's just one little bit different to People Get Ready to me.


Entered at Sat Nov 18 14:50:47 CET 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Van's Releases

Peter I have to agree. Very short time between releases. With songs of that nature; perhaps Van and his people felt it would make a great Christmas release? Nostalgia etc. The last time I remember an artist releasing two albums that quickly (if my memory servers me well) was after Dylan released Self Portrait; in June of 69 and just four months later; in October, New Morning; which I loved.


Entered at Sat Nov 18 13:37:11 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Van no. 2

John D: I was amazed to see the news of another Van Morrison album, "Versatile" due December 1st. I just looked at amazon, and it says "Roll With The Punches" was released 22nd September, which makes it just ten weeks between the two releases. That's prolific with a capital P.

Rolling Stone says that Van wrote seven new songs for the record. Not true. At least three of the Van Morrison compositions are Van songs from way back. I Forgot That Love Existed (Poetic Champions Compose, 1987), Start All Over Again (Enlightenment, 1990) and Only A Dream (Down The Road, 2002). Then there are these standards. A curious release.


Entered at Sat Nov 18 07:16:55 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.118)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Haso, I'll check out that article.... The music scene in East St Louis was still going when I lived in St Louis in the first half of the 80s, but i didn't know about it. I had one degree of separation is all, but i didn't know about it...When i returned to St Louis in late 97 it was essentially done, within a couple of years i became friends with musicians who had been part of that as players & / or audience.... i ended up spending a good amount of time visiting in homes there. & as a contractor, i did a whole helluva lot of siding, window, & roofing jobs in East St Louis & the surrounding towns.

Nux, I'm glad you're digging Stuff.


Entered at Sat Nov 18 04:43:14 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: Jeff A

Hey Jeff, I was just reading a review of a new Sports Illustrated documentary about high school football in E. St. Louis, IL. If memory serves, back when you and I and Glenn t were discussing life, song, etc in Alton, you seemed to have a lot of 1st hand experience in E. St. L., especially w/ some of the blues players from there. Anyway, this looked to be an interesting study of the place, despite it's obvious sports bent (and that it will be broadcast on Fox, sorry, I don't recall when).

For my part, I wish now that I'd at least ventured down there, though I know it makes the toughest parts of Alton or the city acrosst the River look like country clubs. Oh yeah, the title is "89 Blocks". Unfortunately, back when I lived out there, I was a pretty numb college student who couldn't get anywhere near figuring out how to hear more of the blues I'd been turned onto all through h.s. and college... Muddy, John Lee, Lightin' Hopkins, Sonny Boy, B.B. & Albert, the godfather at his crossroads fending off his hellhound, etc. I suppose I was more likely to travel out to Carrolton or Whitehall for bluegrass live, than to E. St.L. or clubs in the center of St. Louis itself. Ultimately, my loss.


Entered at Fri Nov 17 15:33:02 CET 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Van Morrison

Move over Bob Dylan. Now it's Van's turn to look way back.


Entered at Fri Nov 17 13:49:36 CET 2017 from (197.245.248.35)

Posted by:

NUX

Subject: JEFF A_STUFF

Thats incredible Jeff,I must say I do enjoy the 2 guitar lineup a lot.I must check out more stuff of Stuff,such groove!


Entered at Fri Nov 17 12:58:23 CET 2017 from (86.171.51.109)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Interesting, Peter. The debate up here this week is that young people are being priced out of going to football nowadays. I would be happy going to English non league football. We have 'junior'(as opposed to senior) football too up here and the bigger clubs get attendances in their hundreds.

The problem up here is that we are a small country with a huge conurbation and how can teams with average home attendances of 3 000 compete with two teams that have average home attendances of over 50 000. Also people travel from other parts of Scotland and Ireland to see the old firm. Huge clubs.

Yet, percentage of population attending a football match on Saturday is still the highest in Europe. Just a small country...living next to the most glamorous league in the world.


Entered at Fri Nov 17 11:22:16 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Lower down the leagues

(My post just swam in to the ether … I'll retype from memory)

Darlington. Last Saturday we were having coffee in Banbury. The guy at the next table was saying he was going to Farnborough to see Farnborough v Banbury. He was saying he'd supported Tottenham Hotspur all his life, but couldn't afford the tickets anymore, let alone travel to Premier League away games. Farnborough would be a 90 minute drive. It would have been fun … I looked the next day, and it was a 3-3 draw. He added that non-league was more entertaining.

A few months earlier, a similar conversation in Southampton. I had an appointment next to the Eastleigh ground with a physio. Eastleigh is basically a suburb of Southampton. The physio was telling me that non-league Eastleigh were doing well because so many people couldn't afford to see Southampton in the Premier League, so were getting their Saturday football at Eastleigh. He said he could afford to take his sons, and friends to Eastleigh.


Entered at Fri Nov 17 10:35:24 CET 2017 from (86.171.51.109)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Al, others scroll past

Thanks, Al. A truly outstanding person. A great Scot. And he came from an outstanding family. His brother, Bob, is revered in Dundee amongst the Dundee fans for winning the league and getting to the semi finals of the European Cup, the following year. It is so difficult to win the league, if you are not one of the Old Firm.

The Scottish/Liverpool connection. I was disappointed when it was revealed that a couple of years back that the referee for the second leg of the Roma -Dundee United semi final had been bribed 50 000 Euros to ensure Roma got through. There is a real sense of frustration in me that those Dundee United players have received nothing for their efforts. I think the whole of Scotland was looking forward to a Dundee United - Liverpool final. My biggest regret in football. Felt so sorry for Jim McLean.

I thought Ian St John did well. I miss the Saint/Greavsie show.

Let's drink a toast to the Darlington fans of this world, Al. Turn up, home and away, week in, week out and get nothing. Enjoyed the book. Thanks, Al.


Entered at Fri Nov 17 05:02:45 CET 2017 from (65.92.194.249)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: come una pietra scalciata

I've finally gotten around to reading my copy of Greil Marcus's book on "Like A Rolling Stone". I was captured by his description of an Italian light-rap version by Articolo 31 so looked it up on YouTube - see link. A fine specimen indeed.


Entered at Fri Nov 17 01:39:16 CET 2017 from (86.156.250.41)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Shankly: Nature's Fire

Cheers Dunc. Many thanks for the BBC Scotland nod. Been awaiting it with baited breath. Caught it on BBC i player and somehow managed through a steadily flowing veil of tears to get through it.

Been telling Bob all about the communion we as fans had with the great man. A wonderful thing yet in one regard really quite scary as you reflect upon its unique intensity.

Indeed, it really is impossible to convey just what Bill Shankly the man represented to Reds supporters like myself or, I'm sure, what we as his disciples represented to him. It had to be unique. A pure and emotional bond unlike anything else and beyond even that as fans we all felt for the club itself, although it definitely fed and intensified that attachment too. Certainly in the sporting world nothing I've ever witnessed approached it. Looking back it was quite scary in that unrestrained intensity it generated within the likes of myself, particularly in the Boys Pen and on the Spion Kop. Suffice to say if Shanks had told any of us young lads to say put our hand in a fire we'd have unhesitatingly done it. No question about it. And that sort of hold really is quite sobering as you look back. Yet so devout was our devotion to the man. As for the film I was so pleased it managed so accurately and so beautifully to capture the depth of that unshakeable unbreakable two way devotion and attachment and how it was so rooted in that shared Scottish/Liverpudlian working class crucible which forged it.


Entered at Thu Nov 16 20:02:02 CET 2017 from (65.92.194.249)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Eric Gale of Stuff can be heard here playing in much the same style on this circa '67 record by Dianne Brooks, it seems to me. Dianne told me that "Eric" played on it, so I thought Clapton and looked unsuccessfully for confirmation for many months. So then I asked the producer, Harvey Brooks, who set me straight. Not my finest moment. The lead guitarist on Dianne's previous 45 was Robbie Robertson.


Entered at Wed Nov 15 17:56:20 CET 2017 from (24.184.50.211)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Nux, hard to imagine a band with Chris Parker & Steve Gadd drumming together, huh? The later & recent Stuff had Clint DeGanon on drums, he's the drummer on the 6 tracks i cut 4 years ago for my upcoming project. the recent band usually had only one guitar and two or more horns, one of which is Alex Foster.


Entered at Wed Nov 15 16:34:31 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Now git....I say git it right!

Roy!...I say Roy!!...........gawd damn boy! it is not the you-nited states....it's the un-nited states. We can't have y'all comin' up here from Bammy and spreadin' yer ill will! Do yuh hear me boy? Yer bilt too close to the ground son....the fast ones are goin' right over yer head.


Entered at Wed Nov 15 16:00:19 CET 2017 from (197.245.248.35)

Posted by:

Nux

Subject: Stuff

Wow,I'm now a "Stuff" fan


Entered at Wed Nov 15 00:07:41 CET 2017 from (67.80.28.89)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Stuff

You guys will want to listen to this.It's much better than the live Stuff LP. This was one of the great all time NYC bands. One of the all time bands...they were all always great, individually, and in various formations, before they formed Stuff. and as Stuff- as a unit they backed up Joe Cocker, recorded that Stingray record with him & toured with him, an also Paul simon. Gordon Edwards, the founder and leader, is a dyed in the wool Brooklyn boy, from Bed stuy, will be till the day he dies. Great guy, real character, real sharp in his way.... the Stuff band that he had till two years ago ( he's had hand issues lately) was amazing...i saw a lto of great shows of theirs in real small rooms with great sound. unfortunately the videos of the newer Stuff do nt do the band justice at all. but this recording will blow you away.


Entered at Tue Nov 14 20:51:22 CET 2017 from (67.80.28.89)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jon, i couldn't answer that. I know that when i returned to NYC i didn;t go to the original club again, but when it "reopened" in a basement that had been a bowling alley in Bayside Queens i saw a few Mountain shows there. Leslie West, Corky Laing, and Noel Redding. I'm not sure what the dealk was. They didn;t have regular shows there, or a real business, just very occassional shows. but it was called My Father's Place when they did it. Stack chairs were used , it was very portable. but the sound was fine.....great shows...


Entered at Tue Nov 14 19:55:21 CET 2017 from (24.114.76.233)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I don't like the term 'Americana' as applied to music or records, but inevitably much geat music will be found in the section so labelled. That said, I've never found anything I was lookinf for there - BaRK, Fred Eaglesmith, Peter Boyd ... À cynical friend quipped many years ago the 'new country' was code for 'rock and roll without African Americans' (not that he used that last term). I have a feeling that'Americana' is similarly filtered (at least in record stores).


Entered at Tue Nov 14 16:13:44 CET 2017 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Jeff, great news on My Father's Place reopening. I know Rick Danko played there in 1977, touring on his solo album. Did Levon&Rick/the reformed Band ever play there in the 80s?


Entered at Tue Nov 14 10:56:43 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.83)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Sure thing on Bonnie. When she wants to be, she's a badass blues player. Rory Block as well.


Entered at Tue Nov 14 10:16:29 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Agree with you on Joe B. Would you let Bonnie Raitt in? I would.


Entered at Tue Nov 14 09:32:54 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.83)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, the views of that Tower Record manager are not uncommon.There are many younger African american blues players here today who are angry about not being able to develop solid careers quickly ( they have no idea what their forebearers really were up against and also no idea of the reality of today). The anger & backlash they have thrown at white players is pretty intense. The thing is, it should have nothing to do with color. Truth is though, the great majority of the young white people playing blues are not that good. but the young black kids ain;t no young Muddy Waters, buddy Guy, Larry Davis, Magic sam, etc etc , either..

I gotta tell ya, if i managed a record store Joe Bonamssa wouldn't get in my blues section. The garbage can or the dumpster is where i feel is recorde belong.

but, now that i tihnk of it, red headed Texan Gib Wharton sure could play the blues & jazz on his pedal steel.Gib died a week or two ago, Any one who can pick up any of his solo albums, the one i have is a maaterpiece. Gib pulled it out of his trenchcoat pocket and gave it to me many years ago. I told him how much i had enjoyed his playing, and he laid the disc on me. wouldn't take a dime for it,


Entered at Tue Nov 14 08:39:52 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Blurred lines …

I just added a "Rant" to my blog on the new BBC TV series "Howards End." Whether you've seen it or not, I was so annoyed by the deliberate use of "out of focus" that I took a few screenshots. I know we have photographers here … I'd be interested in any comments (you can comment over at the article). As I say, you don't have to have seen it.


Entered at Tue Nov 14 08:26:02 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Fine lines being drawn …

Americana helped as a category cutting across rock and country. In the late and lamented days of Tower Records megastore in Piccadilly Circus they eventually had different sections for Country & Western, New Country, Americana, Bluegrass and Folk. This meant it was hard to decide where to look. The Band were in Americana. The Dillards were in Bluegrass, I think wrongly. A story I've told before is I asked the formidable manager … an Afro-Carribbean guy … where Bonnie Raitt was. He asked where I was looking and I said "Blues." He pointed me to Country. I said,'But she's recording with John Lee Hooker!" His answer was, 'She's got red hair and uses pedal steel. No way does she get in MY blues section."


Entered at Tue Nov 14 03:52:26 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.83)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ- it's a individual thing. Poco, the Burritos, The Byrds, Nitty Gritty, Jerry Jeff, Heartsfield, Marshall Tucker, Charlie Daniels, a whole pile of others,the New Riders, etc etc etc, were all big here in NYC, but not in every crowd. Amongst my friends, they were kinda bigger than Zeppelin, The Beatles, or the Stones....



Entered at Tue Nov 14 01:53:22 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.83)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Hoo F_ - _ng Ray! Good News For A Change

A short lifetime later, My Father's Place will reopen.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 23:51:53 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Rock & Roll & Country....To...Country Rock

Comments from the Roger McGuinn, (while making "Circle 2" with the Dirt Band. "When we went down to Nashville and cut Sweet Hearts of the Rodeo our folk and Rock & Roll fans hated us. They thought we went over to the other side. At that time country was considered political. We didn't know if we could keep our rock fans and gain country fans. For a while there we lost them both."

The problem now a days is that too many people don't even really understand the difference. Depending on the band, some get slid into pop rock, country rock, progressive country. Distributors like to put labels on music and file them where they deam appropriate in their stores. Most of them have no fucking idea what they are doing. n\ Have any of you guys seen some of the cartoons that have been done of the el presidentay of the US Hay. They are gawd damn hilarious. This one guy who has drawn him has done it so perfectly. He has these tiny little hands he is waving around while the real voice is blabbing some of these idiotic comments he has made. I near soiled myself yes-a-day evening watching this on tv.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 23:14:37 CET 2017 from (107.77.97.130)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Hank Wilson’s Back

I’ve been listening to this album today. It’s Leon Russell doing old school country standards. I recall that when it came out it was a bridge for LR fans to try out country music. In that era the hipsters hated country music. This album and Willie Nelson’s Red Headed Stranger helped close that gap around the same time. The Byrds’ Sweetheart of the Rodeo came first in that way but I don’t think worked as well in bringing people into country sounds. Burrito Bros too. I have quite a few friends that still can’t hear anything country. One old pal is that way but loves CCR - which if you added in a steel guitar part to some of their songs would easily turn them into a country tune.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 21:06:56 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.83)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

If it wasn't for non musical topics ths GB woulda been dead and gone long ago. And the connection of real life to music is 100,000% .

Though

Sometimes the lines between people's musical ability and personalities or behavior is very very minimal, hard to discern. Yet, even that is a affirmation and demonstration of how real music and song actually is.

Nothing is more tenuous than creating music and it hinges on & at the speed of hummingbird's wings. Yet pros and real talents pull it out regardless of circumstance.... How it sometimes happens is truly a wonder. For someone who doesn't worry about what God is, i can tell you, musicality of people is proof there is something out there we can refer to as the Spirit, The Power, or if we choose- God.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 21:00:31 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.83)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

BTW Lee,next time Kevin performs, i'll let you know in case it hits when you want a trip to NYC.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 20:40:57 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.83)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Lee, Kevin Harris is doing very well. He had some shows this summer, has been out of town with family, and is returning to NYC soon.

Isn't it amazing that some of these totally astonishing singers fall under the public radar? The man has had a varied but distinguished career, including Broadway , but the general public gets deprived of these great voices...

Just for the record, so nothing i wrote gets misinterpreted, verbal and mental abuse takes it toll. And can ceetianly effect people's behavior and personality-- soemtimes the rest of their lives. But, phydical and r sexual assault, sexual abuse, and going to war, is certainly worse and will generally have far worse effects.

A World without abuse would be heaven


Entered at Mon Nov 13 20:07:24 CET 2017 from (107.77.97.93)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Peter V

Here Here!! Unless it’s Hear Hear!! Music is our primary purpose here and those topics are what folks weigh-in on most frequently. But, personally, I really like some of the more general topics that pop up too.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 18:04:36 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Kevin Harris, Tina Brown

Jeff, spent most of the morning listening to the Kevin Harris clips, starting with the one you posted. Talented singer, amazing that he was just off of throat cancer and therapy. How is he doing now, some four years later? Killer band, too.

Peter, I have mixed feeling about your somewhat high horse re Tina Brown and PTSD. (Tina Brown being overly dramatic? Go figure...)

Yes, living under the yoke of male dominance in your day-to-day existence may not rate up there with the atrocities of war, but it does take a toll. My step-mom only admitted after retirement that the only reason she kept her last job was that she was forced "service" of her obnoxious and dominating boss under explicit threat that if she didn't she would lose her job. She will carry these squalid memories for the rest of her life. It is heart-wrenching that so many women (and men) have had to carry the shame and pain for so many years. Hopefully, perhaps, a climate change has occurred in which their stories are being given credence. That these incidents may have taken place years ago does not make them any less repugnant. The denials of those like Roy Moore ring hollow, and painting the accusers as opportunistic and politically motivated is downright disgusting.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 17:52:17 CET 2017 from (47.20.223.83)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, i had no difficulty understanding your post. And i don't find you out of line. Tina brown would not have suffered PTSD from exposure to loud mouthness, disgusting nehavior, obnoxiousness. Prolonged exposure to it will effect people but she sure could have quit- i doubt she was chained to her job. she probably chose to accept the high pay and take the verbal environment,,... Women who are sexually abused, they will or can have a type of PTSD.. There is all kinds of trauma- growing up with horrible abusive people can traumatize you, but certainly not like going to war.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 17:16:28 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My post on The Sunday Times was also prompted by buying a remembrance poppy from a guy in his late 20s on Remembrance Sunday just an hour earlier. He had a row of medals on his chest and just the one leg. Then you read this highly-priviliged person saying she has PTSD.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 17:12:15 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Hang on, I’m saying that having a bullying, aggressive boss (Tina Brown never says she was sexually harassed, just bullied) is NOT equivalent to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which people get from wartime events, or from horrific events like The Twin Towers on 9/11. That’s PTSD. It gives people nightmares and flashbacks. My dad drove the BBC radio truck into Belsen, one of the very first vehicles to enter. My mum said he had nightmares about it the rest of his life until he died aged 53. That’s PTSD, not that anyone would ever have called it that in those days. Having a boss, however unpleasant, swearing at you in a loud voice might be distressing and cause you to feel nervous, but it’s certainly not PTSD unless you’re totally precious.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 15:30:57 CET 2017 from (69.50.54.223)

Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Rockport, ME

Subject: PTSD

Sorry your morning coffee was ruined Peter. How about sticking to music? Or sparing us your comments on things you clearly know nothing about.


Entered at Mon Nov 13 10:57:07 CET 2017 from (86.161.15.121)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Football, Al

I enjoyed the new Shankly documentary, Al on BBC Scotland. Make sure you see it, Al on i player. You'll not learn anything new, but it will keep the great man's name alive. You'll perhaps know some of the fans?


Entered at Mon Nov 13 04:55:26 CET 2017 from (67.80.25.168)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Check out Bronx native Kevin Harris- who just three years prior to this show had Stage 1V throat and throat cancer. He's a vocal coach, that likely helped a lot with his complete comeback. He has a hot band, and yes, that is Mike Clark ( Herbie Hancock's HeadHunters and a gazillion other heavy bands under his belt)


Entered at Sun Nov 12 19:31:23 CET 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Eugene Smith Bill M

Interesting Bill. Knew about Hendrix; but not Eugene. I know his sister very well. I'll have to ask.


Entered at Sun Nov 12 14:16:16 CET 2017 from (83.250.90.242)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: The Band (album)

I agree with DUNC about The Band (abum). I purchased it for 'The Weight'. A mistake I don't regreat.


Entered at Sun Nov 12 13:46:30 CET 2017 from (83.250.90.242)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Sexuall harrasments

I found Ms. NorthWestCoaster crying in front of the 'puter: "No one has harrassed me sexually in my job. Am I so UGLY and UNSEXY?" I said: "You had a good co'operation with the male colleagues, right? You didn't flirt with the boss to get higher position in the organisation, right? Your male colleagues saw that your spouse was a bit crazy, so they felt comfortably when you were present, right?"

Pooh! She was satisfied. I didn't have to draw my winning card: "Actually, you were sexually harrassed by an older church musician in the 80s who chased you with a branding iron when you visited a piggery."


Entered at Sun Nov 12 13:09:31 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It makes you sick … my morning coffee was ruined by reading Tina Brown in The Sunday Times who says she had PTSD … Post Traumatic Stress Disorder … after working for Harvey Weinstein. The interviewer asked her what she meant and she detailed “Profanity, shouting, humiliating, lying, aggressing.”

So for Tina that equates to say being in a truck blown up by a roadside bomb, being splattered with your best friends’ body parts, and perhaps losing a limb yourself?

How precious are these people?


Entered at Sun Nov 12 12:32:36 CET 2017 from (86.161.15.121)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: The Band

The Band is my favourite album. There are many albums which are important to me, but it's the album I play the most. Still after all these years - I bought it in 1975 I think - I get something new from it every time. I played it twice yesterday and was thinking about the interplay of instruments, including Richard's voice and his interpretation of the lyrics on King Harvest(Has Surely Come). Brilliant.

This got me reading Peter's excellent article on the song. There is a lot of work in it and Peter quotes other relevant people's thoughts on aspects of the song. I think the extract I quote from Peter's article below on the instruments nails it beautifully. I quote.

'To me, the instruments all assume distinct personalities, reflecting and commenting on the lyrics. There’s the guitar, picking, plucky, strutting and wirey, creating an argumentative extra line. Then there’s the bass, dogged, persistent. These are the farmer. The extended notes of Garth’s organ are a contrast, with the irresistible sweep of history resonating through them. Then the drums, the inexorable thump of the seasons changing, the rustle of the wind.'

Peter also goes on to say how important Richard's voice is to the song, which made it difficult for the reformed band to play it. Certainly his vocal performance is brilliant.

Thanks, Peter.

Which brings me to Whispering Pines. Levon's and Richard's voices echoing is one of the greatest vocal moments in rock history. But it is the instrumentation behind the voices which makes the voices truly brilliant. 'Standing by the well'...Great stuff.

Then I went up and handed in 6 albums to the Oxfam music shop in the West End of Glasgow. still sorting out the collection. If it's not played it's out. But I bought two albums...weak willed that I am.

And for lunch, and Glasgow has a big Italian community, - freshly baked foccaccia with Italian sausage, mozzarella, sun dried tomatoes and caramelised onions with cappuccino. That'll match anything in Brooklyn, Jeff.


Entered at Sun Nov 12 03:56:29 CET 2017 from (65.92.194.249)

Posted by:

Bill M

John D: I believe Jimi Hendrix's was part Cherokee thanks to his mother. Eugene Smith too. I suspect the mix is not uncommon in Nova Scotia too, thanks to 17th-century marriages between Micmacs with Loyalists from the newly independent American colonies.


Entered at Sat Nov 11 19:47:43 CET 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Subject: Black Indians

I liked the way Robbie told it (and of course he worked with a lot of them on Storyville), more or less: "The escaped slaves ended up on the Indian reserves, and it was 'Yeah, you can stay with us', and then after a while there were all these little black Indians running around .." with a little smile at the end.


Entered at Sat Nov 11 19:22:03 CET 2017 from (75.157.168.91)

Posted by:

BONK

Me too! Peter and John. Just read in the Toronto Star that someone on the Isle of Jersey owns a hell of a lot of music rights from some big stars. Some kind of tax haven.


Entered at Sat Nov 11 17:24:03 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D: Me, too. I would also have loved to hear Jerry's response.


Entered at Sat Nov 11 15:33:51 CET 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: New Dylan box and JT

I'm thinking a lot about Jerry these days. Whenever a new Dyan album; or box came out I would receive emails from Jerry; with his analysis and feelings about the release. I really miss him a lot. When the box came out last week, I forgot for a moment that Jerry was gone and was awaiting his email. Then reality quickly set in. Jerry, Miss you my old friend.


Entered at Sat Nov 11 15:26:15 CET 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Rumble the HBO special

Was really a good film. Interesting facts that I was not aware of. Didn't know the "black, indian" relationship. Charlie Patton for one. Was nice to see Dockery Plantation. I've visited it twice before. So historical to the blues.


Entered at Fri Nov 10 16:20:22 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: And! on it goes.........

Trump (sounding like Fog Horn Leg Horn) is talkin' on the phone to Roy Moore. "Roy! I say ROY! don't worry about it son. I got away with a little pussy fondling myself from time to time. But Y'all better be careful son if yuh git up here to Washington. Some of them boys from Congress want to take yuh out behind the Pentagon and give yuh a good whoopin.......nice boy but he's kinda dumb........


Entered at Fri Nov 10 06:43:53 CET 2017 from (71.234.142.242)

Posted by:

haso

Subject: rumble, etc

Lisa: haven't seen "Rumble" yet, but it got some showing in the cities and a fair amount of write-up earlier this fall both in the Boston Globe and the NYT. Have to figure out a way to access it for the ol' dvd player. However, have recently re-watched the you-tubes of the Band induction into hall of fame and EC's, which RR introduced. Really makes one wish Levon could have buried the hatchet, at least long enough to have participated.

Norm and glenn t: keep at it, folks. We all need heartfelt, as well as the occasional light-hearted commentary.

No offense to anyone, but under the circumstances, I can't say I'm chafing at the bit to move to Alabama. Wow, we may end up w/ Gregg Gianforte of Montana in the House and Roy Moore as a U.S. Senator. Amazing. Rolling Stone article from this summer, before Gianforte attacked the Guardian reporter, was absolutely astounding. Bet no one here knew that there were dinosaurs on Noah's ark. That's what he believes. Plus there's no biblical basis for retiring and collecting social security... hell Noah was 600 years old and he was building an ark. Good thing; it's assuaged my spouse's guilt at wanting to retire before her mid-60's... I mean we're barely a tenth of the way according to the Gianforte/Moore calculus.


Entered at Fri Nov 10 00:26:31 CET 2017 from (24.114.73.186)

Posted by:

Bill M

Lisa: Thanks for the reminder about "Rumble", which I've been meaning to see. Ties to the Hawks are thick on the ground, beyond Robbie's place in the movie. Former Hawks Stan Szelest and Sandy Konikoff both played with Robbie in the Hawks (and Stan was in the post-Robbie Band, they both played on Jesse Ed's first solo LP, and they both played in Link Wray's group in the 70s. Jesse Ed had met the Hawks in Oklahoma in '65, and seems to have taken one of the songs they played, "Bacon Fat", to Taj Mahal - as it was mistakenly credited to Garth and Robbie on Taj's first album.


Entered at Thu Nov 9 20:57:37 CET 2017 from (67.81.96.230)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

One of the greatest singers I've heard, one of the greatest entertainers i've seen, died today. After about a year and half of fighting liver cancer, Angel Rissoff has gone to heaven. A very cool dude, a straight up guy, and all around great person, Angel will be missed. I met Angel in the spring of 2013. He's a vocal cornerstone of my upcoming release. There's four amazing singers on it- but if i had to pick one singer to sing every song i ever wrote, it would be Angel. RIP.



Entered at Thu Nov 9 20:51:17 CET 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Subject: Rumble: The Indians Who Rocked The World

Has anybody seen this new documentary? It's being shown on specialty channels here in Canada and it's very good. Features Jesse Ed Davis, Randy Castillo, Link Wray and others, and of course The Band.


Entered at Thu Nov 9 15:44:06 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I agree with the Ronnie Spector comparison, Todd (except obviously in height!)


Entered at Thu Nov 9 05:43:45 CET 2017 from (32.216.232.98)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Simi

Thanks for the links Peter. So much talent. I wasn't aware of the updated Tigerlilly project, so will seek that out. Also enjoyed Simi singing with The Duke and The King.

Sunday night, she performed, among other things, 'Good Friend' and 'Pyramid' at the Skylark/Amy Helm show. As I was sitting in the audience, soaking it all in, it occurred to me that that Simi Stone is kind of like a modern day Ronnie Spector....not a clone or imitation, but has a similar quality and attack in her singing, as well as a simmering charisma that is impossible to ignore.


Entered at Thu Nov 9 04:32:28 CET 2017 from (65.92.194.249)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Whitey Glan RIP

John D: Was sad to lean of Whitey's passing. Brilliant drummer - Mandala, Bush, Alice Cooper, Lou Reed, Bette Midler, David Wilcox, etc.


Entered at Wed Nov 8 14:22:16 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Duke & The King

And finally … Simi Stone when she was in The Duke & The King with Simone Felice … No Easy Way Out live.


Entered at Wed Nov 8 14:17:43 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Simi Stone

Link to the Simi Stone video for "Good friend."


Entered at Wed Nov 8 14:15:13 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Simi Stone

Simi Stone is an amazing find, Todd, I've seen her twice with Simone Felice and once solo. Great violin player too. Check out Natalie Merchant's recent work where Simi is sometimes a foil to her voice.

I'd recommend Jealousy from Paradise is here … this is a 2015 remake of a 1995 song, but the addition of Simi takes it to another level.

Then from 2014's Natalie Merchant, Simi does superb backing vocals on Ladybird and Go Down Moses.

"Ladybird" is linked. Go right through … the last minute is incredibly "Beatlesque" at their most orchestral!


Entered at Wed Nov 8 06:36:53 CET 2017 from (32.216.249.199)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Cutler's Records / Skylark

B.lee, I remember Cutler’s records, which was a New Haven institution for many years, but in the mid to late 1980’s, on my college student budget, I spent more time at the smaller Rhymes records, which was just down the street and up a flight of stairs. They had a pretty good selection of used records at the time. Pretty cool that you met your wife in Cutler’s!
I lived in Hamden for a few years as kid, and know that stretch of route 10 between New Haven and Cheshire pretty well.

Sounds like your wife lived in or near the section of New Haven that used to be known as “Goatville”. Not sure if anyone still refers to it by that anymore, but my Great Aunt & Uncle lived a couple of blocks from there and, and owned and operated a restaurant called Archie Moore’s in the 1960’s and 1970’s. It was a neighborhood bar & grill type of place.

I saw a very nice show the other night. Amy Helm put together a band of 10 women for a project called “Skylark”, and they did a show at Levon’s barn in Woodstock, 2 gigs at city winery in NYC, and then one night at Infinity Music Hall in Norfolk, CT which is up in the hills in the Northwestern part of the state. Great venue, and is probably one of the oldest theaters in the state. It was one of the most joyous nights of live music that I’ve seen in a while. A lot of ensemble playing and singling, as well as featuring different vocalists through the night. Felt at times like a soul revue, other times a roots revival, and occasionally a Texas Roadhouse stomp. It was the closest thing in feel and vibe to a Midnight Ramble that I’ve experienced since Levon passed away, so I’m really happy that I was able to go.

The ladies involved were Amy Helm, Nicki Bluhm, Rachael Yamagata, Carolyn Wonderland, Cindy Cashdollar, Shelley King, Jennifer Condos, Emily Gimble, Allison Miller and Simi Stone.

With the exception of Amy and Cindy Cashdollar, I had never seen any of the other women before, and was blown away by the amount of talent gathered in one place. Simi Stone and Nicki Bluhm were very impressive…wonderful voices. I bought both of their records at the venue on my way out.


Entered at Wed Nov 8 04:13:50 CET 2017 from (67.80.30.64)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ- not so. Northam won the governor's seat by 9 points. The largest margin in 32 years. The Virginia suburbs really came to life against Twitler.


Entered at Wed Nov 8 03:47:43 CET 2017 from (107.77.97.118)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Some good news!

Good news for Dems (& America!) tonight! I believe it’s all anti Trump which should be instructive to Dems as to their focus in 2018. Tonight can also restore some faith in the electorate, finally. Still though, the elections were too close, no room for Dem errors.


Entered at Wed Nov 8 01:11:30 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Truth & The REAL Truth

Glenn you didn't do anything wrong. Expressing your feelings in such a crazy situation is only normal. Things just get a little slack here these days.

Now I want to turn to some humor for a minute because things are so crazy this is warranted. In Blazing Saddles when the "Hang man" is hanging every body and Harvey Corman keeps sticking his head out the window and talking to him.

One time he sticks his head out the window, there is a guy with his hands tied behind his back and a noose around his neck. His horse also has a noose around his neck. Next time is a guy in a wheel chair with a noose around his neck. What is going on with this US Government about now is just as crazy.


Entered at Tue Nov 7 21:24:40 CET 2017 from (70.121.56.235)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: did i clobber the conversation? sorry...


Entered at Tue Nov 7 02:42:07 CET 2017 from (70.121.56.235)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: people with guns kill people

i've always detested that phrase "guns don't kill people; people do." that's utter crap! what they should be saying is "guns don't kill people; people with guns do." i don't know what it's gonna take to turn the tide on the issue of guns in america, but i hope politicians will begin to stand up and against the gun lobby. of course it would helpful if the lunatic from the oval office found a more appropriate place for his pronouncements (a closet somewhere far, far away). if the bloodshed continues my family will move to another country (seriously).


Entered at Mon Nov 6 23:51:47 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

I can’t believe that yet again a moron in a police uniform stands in front of a tv camera to say ‘guns don’t kill. People do.’ What?


Entered at Mon Nov 6 20:51:33 CET 2017 from (67.80.27.171)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

It's a mental health thing. The mental health of most Congressmen & the President.


Entered at Mon Nov 6 19:12:29 CET 2017 from (24.114.75.57)

Posted by:

Bill M

The US president itself said that the shooting of 26 innocent people was "not a guns thing". I wonder what, in its mindlet, would be.


Entered at Mon Nov 6 17:03:02 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

As many will know, the new Dylan box set is problematic for me, as I dislike the songs (if you can call turgid rants "song") so much. However, the completist compulsion had me get the de luxe box set, and I followed advice and started on CD8 … the UK tour Live in London where Dylan began putting the old songs back in the set. A good place to start … as John D said, sound quality is very high, and there are storming versions of some classics. Knocking On Heaven's Door gets the Live at Budokan reggae version, Blowing in The Wind is fabulous with gospel singing.

And after the Texas massacre we have to ask yet again as Bob did in 1962 … 55 years ago …

how many times must the cannon balls fly

before they're forever banned?

No one ever explains to me why the USA accepts that the 2nd Amendment is restricted so that you can't have an anti-aircraft missile in your backyard, but does not realise that means a line has been drawn. The position of that line can therefore be shifted.


Entered at Mon Nov 6 16:35:18 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Does it make any sense???

Mr Trump! you really don't need to worry about Muslims coming into your country and terrorising your people. You raise enough right at home.

How does a guy who has been court marshalled for assaulting his wife and child, and is dishonourably discharged, and lowered in rank get to own any gun, never mind a semi automatic weapon. Is this making any sense?


Entered at Mon Nov 6 10:10:21 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I’d say Lisa’s example was assault, and the guys should have been fired. We never had anything that overt in teaching, but they say the police and the fire service and military were abusive to women recruits as standard practice. I worked for a Swiss language school group, and in the early 70s they were very strict on anything like sexual harassment. We had to register all social meetings with students of the opposite sex outside the school too. One senior admin guy was fired instantly when he was found to be screwing his secretary. It relaxed later, but in 1971 it was very strict and enshrined in the contracts.

Powerful men could behave appallingly. My example would be George Brown, deputy prime minister under Harold Wilson in the 1960s. He came to a meeting in Hull in the mid-60s, and was grabbing women’s breasts, putting his hand up skirts left right and centre, and was as drunk as a skunk too. One guy wanted to punch him out when he grabbed a girl’s breasts, and was stopped from punching the deputy PM by the police escort. It did not occur to the police escort to stop George Brown grabbing women though.

I think Prime Ministers like to have a buffoon as deputy or in a senior position. Wilson had George Brown. Blair had Prescott (essential as a link to trade unions as Blair was so posh), but Prescott was a buffoon. Teresa May tolerates Boris Johnston because he also owns the loyalty of a large wing of her party, but as a buffoon his challenge is limited. The major example is LBJ I guess … also a buffoon fond of holding meetings while seated on the toilet like a French monarch of the 18th century, but he had the Southern Democrat vote. That was one when the deputy got power.


Entered at Mon Nov 6 05:06:11 CET 2017 from (24.184.51.156)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Jones Act. Man the Deck.

Geez Norm. It's a good thing you cleared that up. Since it was shipping involved, I'd bet a bunch of us GBers thought the Jones Act was unspeakable, maybe you and your first and second mates, all decked out in wigs and such. :-)


Entered at Mon Nov 6 04:15:49 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Anthony Bourdain

I don't know how many of you may have watched this man? I've watched him for quite some time. I have become comfortable with the feeling that he is a straight shooter. He tells his stories about these countries he visits honestly.

This evening we watched his visit to Puerto Rico, (before the storm). It was so beautiful and the people wonderful. So here is the thing, (which he never mentioned). When the hurricane hit and the devastation and help the people required was slow coming, I recall I mentioned this at the time.

The "Jones Act" over one hundred years old. No one made any comment, perhaps many don't understand it. It took Trump several days after the storm to give the "Jones Act Waver", (which was given to Texas before the hurricane hit there. He allowed the American shipping companies to be paid their exhorbitant prices for delivering the goods that they monopolized before allowing outside help.)

This "Act" which is over 100 years old maintains that "no ships shall deliver goods and services to any American lands or colonies unless the ships are built in the USA and manned by American sailors and staff. Puerto Rico is a prime example of this. How do they get everything they need on that island but by ship. These shipping companies owned by the American billionaires have the monopoly and charge what ever they please. What choice do those people have?

Then they have a fucked up President that berates them for being 72 billion dollars in debt. Well how do you think they got that way. There is what..... over 2 million American citizens there who don't even get to vote. The only reason that island is part of America is so Uncle Sam can bleed them dry. It is disgusting!


Entered at Mon Nov 6 03:00:36 CET 2017 from (24.184.51.156)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

The world is changing in major ways. Technology, instant and full media coverage of things, the ability of almost anyone to get their sensational story plastered through out the world, makes things different today. Victims have a voice, people have a voice. Of course, mores have changed too, what's acceptable has changed- but the media is part of it too. The social changes between the late 50s and now have taken hold, gestated, and the technology has been the new last piece of the puzzle.

Sexual harassment, sexual assault, being pressured into having sex other ways, was never right. I'll just point out the obvious, that in that and many other regards, the way of the world has generally been power & strength get their way. In war, in society, in wealth, in sex, in business.... regarding sex, the changes have been coming, and they are arriving here in this country in almost full force now,

The shoe is going on the other foot,because now guys gotta be extra careful what they say to women.Hell, now you gotta be careful whose direction you look at... i wouldn;t wanna be a kid today......Though, offer me the chance to go back 30 or so years and i'll take it...


Entered at Sun Nov 5 17:46:38 CET 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Subject: Mad Men revisited

There are so many degrees of harassment and assault, and what's happening now may seem like an overreaction, but is it? You guys ask any female in your lives about their experiences, and see if they think it is. I'm not going to get into anything heavy here, but I'll tell you two instances of what you might call harassment or at least male entitlement which might be regarded very differently today:

In the early 70s I was the copy typist at a Vancouver advertising agency. And for anyone who thinks the goings-on in the TV series "Mad Men" were exaggerated I can tell you they weren't, although no one ever lost a foot at my agency.

1) I was walking with a sheaf of copy down the large room the artists, typists and production guys all shared, and I was wearing a loose-fitting dress (no belt at the waist). One of the artists was coming towards me, and as he passed he flipped my dress over my head, so I was briefly standing there in my underwear. And judging from the snickers from the unusually large group of guys at the production end of the room I got the distinct impression this had been well planned in advance.

2) I was standing on the curb (busy downtown street) waiting to run across to the coffee shop for coffee when suddenly someone smacked me on the rear end so hard he knocked me off the curb and onto the street. It was no love tap, it was a stinging slap. I whirled around ready to deliver a slap of my own, only to find one of the hot young account execs smirking there. My hand stopped about an inch from his face (I wish it hadn't), because it just wouldn't have done to slap the face of one of the higher-ups. Funny thing is, this guy is now a fairly prominent person in a different field entirely, and from time to time I see articles about him and his company in the paper and wonder if he's still such an ***hole. Maybe he smartened up over the years - I hope so.

I should add that it was a really fun job for the most part and I really liked almost everybody there. But it was a pretty wild place sometimes, where anything would go, and no one batted an eyelash. You were just supposed to smile and be a "good sport" about stuff this this. Now both these events would surely be considered harassment at least, and probably assault in the second instance.


Entered at Sun Nov 5 17:21:23 CET 2017 from (24.184.48.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norm,i hope you had protection on your computer Norm. If so, take your technocillin - meaning run your scans. Nude celebrity sites might be as bad as porn sites for spreading viruses. If things start burning when you pee, well....... at your age you should know better :-)



Entered at Sun Nov 5 16:35:20 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: To Hide It!

Peter I should think that people would remember more. I suppose on this continent they "pretend" to be still nieve.

From the Victorian age in your place, they all wore wigs. As to the reason why, it doesn't take a lot of explaining as to the cause. Funny how the tradition was carried on so long.

In the flick with Johnny Depp, can't quite remember the name, (devil something). About Jack the Ripper and who he really was. The Prince with his favourite hooker. The Masons and their rituals,

This whole thing of sexual degenerates and men in power has been around since time began. Men and women trying to jump start their career and what some of them "will do". So that the people who are on the power trip convince themselves in their warped minds that they can do anything.

In sports particularly here in hockey. Coaches that like priests use young boys because they are convinced the boys are too afraid, too ashamed to say anything. These boys wanting to work hard and make a career for themselves are vulnerable.

I happened the other day to be watching a flick on TV. I was trying to remember the name of an actress in this movie. I finally went to my computer and looked her up. She is very famous and a very good actress in many movies. She is from Edmonton. Now the thing is there were pictures of her there so I scrolled thru these pictures and I was shocked by the nude pictures of her. It never occurred to me she would do that. I substituted her name for another. Same thing. I was amazed to find any actress you could name just about. Same thing. My question is do they do this because they want to or are they pressured into doing this.

Women I held in high regard as wonderful talented "ladies", I am some what let down.


Entered at Sun Nov 5 15:07:14 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The whole harassment / exploitation angle was so intrinsic to the rock world that it escapes attention. Our assumption that it happens is so strong. I’m not surprised that powerful men get caught out … film producers, theatre directors, film stars, politicians. It happens with employment in offices and in schools too and surely we all know that. I had one boss in teaching who was such a sleaze that we tried hard never to let him alone in an office with any female.

It’s good that people are saying “Enough is enough” belatedly, but I am surprised that the media (another area rife with it) is expressing surprise. For example, I thought every theatregoer in Britain knew Kevin Spacey's preferences when he was director at the Old Vic. I never realized it was a secret. Best Richard III I ever saw too.


Entered at Sun Nov 5 02:28:51 CET 2017 from (74.12.32.190)

Posted by:

Bill M

Lisa: Maybe it's time for a reshoot of a comprehensive 'next of kin' at the Danko farm?

John D: Thanks for the tip. I had it in my hands today in a bookstore, but I figured I'd drop a hint and wait 'til Xmas.


Entered at Sun Nov 5 01:49:02 CET 2017 from (96.49.94.173)

Posted by:

Lisa

Ben, I've been wondering when the whole issue is going to spread to the rock world - funny that it hasn't so far. You'd think there'd be ample cause. I remember reading from someone, maybe Bill Avis, saying that it was really heartbreaking, the way the girls would show up later with babies who were the spitting image of some of the Band members. I suppose it's all moot now, and maybe no one knows where to even begin. And also you could say the circumstances were different back then, but still ...


Entered at Sat Nov 4 23:05:29 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Private Eye

I have a very good run of Private Eye from about 1964 to 1968 in binders, then I stopped buying every issue, moving to Oz and IT instead. Wish I'd kept them. OZ is worth a fortune. My younger son got very keen on Private Eye about ten years ago, probably from seeing the editor, Ian Hislop, on “Have I Got News For You” every week. Now I buy it when I see it. I think the Weinstein cover from two weeks ago is a classic.


Entered at Sat Nov 4 20:03:17 CET 2017 from (97.92.250.170)

Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: Enough with your Bandsplation......

Whoa......... In the current climate, "I just want to break even" seems pretty benign, but I guess I shouldn't give them any ideas.........


Entered at Sat Nov 4 18:05:19 CET 2017 from (86.156.250.41)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: P.eye [don't get excited Jeff lad - not the pizza variety]

Hey Pete - our Chris has not missed a copy since he was 18. He's 43 now and still gets every issue. I dread to imagine the depth of the scepticism it's engrained into him but the irony is the only other thing he buys is the Daily T - purely for the cryptic crozzie I must add. Or so he says.

:-0)


Entered at Sat Nov 4 17:59:57 CET 2017 from (24.184.48.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Thanks Pete, that seems like a great magazine. I may have to subscribe.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Private Eye covers

There is a complete library of covers. Use "Search" for 2017.


Entered at Sat Nov 4 17:11:56 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Private Eye

Private Eye was started in the early 1960s, Peter Cook being the owner for years. It's a satirical fortnightly magazine, but also has inside stories from journalists who can't get the stories in the papers they work for. Good cartoons. Famous for its front covers. See if you can find a run of them online.


Entered at Sat Nov 4 16:10:35 CET 2017 from (24.184.48.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

BTW, i think Pizza Express has live music...If i ain't wrong for a change , Woodstock's Lindsay Webster performed there this past year.


Entered at Sat Nov 4 16:07:54 CET 2017 from (24.184.48.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

John, as i once before posted, 8 or 9 photos that Bob F.'s wife, Susan, took of Dylan, were included int he booklet in that new Dylan box set, Trouble No More.


Entered at Sat Nov 4 16:02:58 CET 2017 from (24.184.48.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete , that cartoon is great commentary on the state of alotta things today. Your inclusion of it binds together several threads already tied together here. Those of you who have nothin better to do will admire the multi dimension of my statement. :-)

Intriguing title for a magazine, Pete. Dick Tracy or mild r rated material?


Entered at Sat Nov 4 15:22:52 CET 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill M

Bill, if you get the chance, pick up the new biography; on Joni Mitchell. Reckless Daughter. David Yaffe the author took 10 years to complete. A lot of reasons behind that; as he explains in the book. He’s a full time professor in Syracuse. There are about eight books out on Joni; but it’s my opinion this will be the definitive version. Made me want to revisit the film, Shadows and Light.


Entered at Sat Nov 4 15:16:57 CET 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Dylan

Was pleasantly surprised yesterday; when I listened to some tracks of the new Dylan box. I don’t remember being that enamered with that period; but the audio of the live recordings were excellent. A lot of Toronto stuff on it. Rob Bowman was one of three writers who did the liner notes.


Entered at Sat Nov 4 14:26:18 CET 2017 from (86.156.250.41)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: LOL

Ha ha, Funny stuff P.

Respect to dear old Fats and all that but it did make me guffaw!!!

:-0)


Entered at Sat Nov 4 13:40:22 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Pizza

See you there, Al. I'll have the dough balls with garlic butter starter and a Soho 65 pizza Romana.

In Private Eye last issue, they had a cartoon … not exact words because I can't find the magazine … but two youths are looking at a newspaper seller's poster "Fats Domino RIP" and one is saying "He must be the bloke what invented pizza."


Entered at Sat Nov 4 05:44:01 CET 2017 from (107.77.97.112)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: J Hammond

PSB thanks. He’s got great stories; he’s not a raconteur but he’s got the best memory precision of any of those guys I’ve heard from then. Is he writing a book? He grew up in Greenwich Village in the 50’s and was into that scene - what a time and place to be!


Entered at Sat Nov 4 05:08:45 CET 2017 from (1.42.8.31)

Posted by:

Wallsend

A clip on your tube I haven't seen before: BO DIDDLEY with Robbie Roberston and Eric Clapton, 4,03


Entered at Sat Nov 4 02:50:28 CET 2017 from (74.12.32.190)

Posted by:

Bill M

PSB: Thanks for the link. I could listen to Hammond forever; with some luck I'll never have to hear Maron again.


Entered at Sat Nov 4 01:12:07 CET 2017 from (84.209.146.203)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

R&R HoF rehearsal with EC


Entered at Fri Nov 3 23:27:35 CET 2017 from (86.156.250.41)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Fuck it. I'm off to Pizza Express.

:-0)


Entered at Fri Nov 3 18:09:09 CET 2017 from (100.34.127.122)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love
Web: My link

Subject: John Hammond Jr on The Band and Dylan

Mark Maron interviews John Hammnd on WTF, and about 50 minutes in Hammond talks about introducing Bob Dylan to The Hawks. Maron keeps getting him off track and he takes awhile to get there, but he does.


Entered at Fri Nov 3 16:24:06 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: More apizza

Todd, I have been to Modern. Good pies, but as I recall a noisy room. My late Father-In-Law liked it. Lately on trips north, since Mom is now in Cheshire (a few miles more up Rt. 10) I go to Eli's on Whitney's takeout in Hamden. I can get the pies up to Cheshire before they go cold. Good, if not spectacular.

Mrs. Lee used to live on Nicholl St., not so far from State. Her sister for many years has lived on Bishop, just off of Whitney, and still does. So for the last 20 years or so I have visited the area often.

I met my wife in front of the Billie Holiday bin in Cutler's Records (the old one) while working a job in Naugatuck. I have stayed at the Hotel Duncan and after late nights at the site eaten at Mamoun's Falafel. (Open til 4am, don't have the coffee if you expect to sleep!) I've been to Toad's. At one time I knew more homeless people in New Haven than...what's the opposite of homeless...homed? Great place, love to move there if I could afford it and could find work there.


Entered at Fri Nov 3 12:55:59 CET 2017 from (74.12.32.190)

Posted by:

Bill M

Thanks John D! Yes, they look 15 with enviable facial hair.


Entered at Fri Nov 3 12:44:46 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.183)

Posted by:

Fred

John Hammond is a guest on the latest WTF podcast. His interview starts at circa the 30 minute mark


Entered at Fri Nov 3 07:25:39 CET 2017 from (24.184.49.90)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Todd, at the risk of being unintentionally curt, I'll respond briefly. I just "woke up" to take leak after a mostly unsuccessful attempt at sleep, and am trying to get a few hours sleep before driving norf in a couple more hours. Yep, the dough is different. There is some mild stiffness & hardness in Sally's crust, especially when you eat a leftover "slice" two and half hours after it came out of the oven. The inside color is kinda whiter than NYC pizza too. It mighta been the fact that i had the white potatoe and onion pie, but the oil was totally clear - unlike NYC pizza, which when correct, has a gorgeous orangish cast ( no, thank god nothing like Cheeto in Chief's orange). Yes, Lee, Todd's right, i don't recall seeing eggplant on the menu. They do have tuna, clam, even plain tomato without any cheese. But you can check their website.


Entered at Fri Nov 3 05:25:23 CET 2017 from (32.216.226.55)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Apizza

Jeff, glad that you got to experience some authentic New Haven style apizza! And yes, it's pronounced "ah-beetz", but mostly in New Haven and surrounding areas. Other areas of Connecticut, especially further North, don't call it apizza.

I was born about a mile from Wooster street, where Pepe’s and Sally's are located, and my childhood home was less than 10 miles away. It wasn't until I went away to college, that I discovered that not every town had great pizza like New Haven. I guess it would be like growing up in Paris, moving away, and discovering that not everyone could make a great baguette.

One of the reasons that New Haven style pizza has it's own personality, consistency and style, is that Frank Pepe (and most of the other Italians that settled in the Wooster Square area) came from the Almafi Coast just south of Naples. Sal Consiglio was Frank Pepe's nephew, and opened Sally's a dozen or so years after the original Pepe's opened in 1925. It's my understanding that Sal worked in Pepe's pizzeria in his younger days and learned his trade there, although he added some of his own touches along the way. The cool thing about Sally's is that most of the pizzas that have come out of their oven for the past 75 years or so have been personally made by Sal (until he passed away), and his two sons Richard and Bobby. So they've been able to maintain a very consistent style and quality over all these years. It’s my understanding the Frank Sinatra was a Sally’s man, and as legend has it, would send his driver up to New Haven to pick up pizza for him.

Pepe's on Wooster Street is still very good, but I ate at one of their satellite locations once, and the experience was underwhelming. Even though they are using the same recipes, it's a facsimile of the real thing. Decent, but not great. Definitely go to Wooster street for the real Pepe’s experience.

I'm not sure exactly what makes New Haven style pizza different from New York's, but I've read that one of the main differences in the dough, is that they use a longer (24 hour cold) fermentation in New Haven, and then let the dough come up to room temperature before shaping. The typical tomato used for the sauce is a San Marzano tomato, but that is probably pretty common in many places. I think the key thing is the dough, and baking it in a decades old coal fired oven, in the case of Sally's and Pepe's.

Modern Apizza, on State Street in New Haven is one of the other long-time good ones. My brother likes Modern over the others. The late great JTull Fan turned me on to Zuppardi’s in West Haven which is also very good and old school family place kind of like Sally’s. There’s another place on Crown Street near Yale University in New Haven called “Bar” and their pizza is usually pretty good, but if definitely more of a College hipster type crowd as opposed to old school Italian. If you ever make it to BAR, you can also check out Louie’s lunch across the street….home of the first hamburger.

B.Lee, I don’t know about an eggplant pie at Sally’s, but I doubt it. I’ve heard that Modern makes a good eggplant pizza.

The link above has a good overview of New Haven apizza.


Entered at Fri Nov 3 01:43:51 CET 2017 from (99.227.166.246)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Such young fresh faces

The Band on the Ed Sullivan show.


Entered at Fri Nov 3 00:27:29 CET 2017 from (24.184.49.90)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

BTW, apizza is pronouced ahbeetz. Though in Connecticut they may pronounce it differently.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 23:48:33 CET 2017 from (24.184.49.90)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

It's Sally's Apizza on the hangin sign Lee. the window says Sally's Pizzeria.Even the real old timers in Brooklyn say apizza thought the signs don't. I don;t recall the menu, but it;s likely on their website. I heeded the advice of my friend who lives locally and got there close to opening time. I suggest the same to you. The place holds about 15 - 16 booths that could seat 6 easily but are better for four, and also has 4 or 5 booths for two. There's also room for them to add tables for four or six to about 10 of the booths. I saw them add a table to a booth early on for a party of 5. the place has a good capacity but it was filling up quickly on a Wednesday.

i figure Todd gotta know this place, if not he should. The most well known New Haven joint is Frank Pepe's, but it may have to do with the fact that they opened up what might be close to a dozen places now.... these guys don't have, never have had those ambitions, these guys are all about the food and the deep connection. As far as I'm grade school, junior high, and high school classes should have to go there on a field trip. And Yale University courses should have an outing and visit with the brothers that own and run it.

This is an entire way of life that is vanished and the little that's left is disappearing, we're lucky when we can find one the few remaining vestiges of it now.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 21:30:04 CET 2017 from (74.12.32.190)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I've never been to Spain, and you're not painting a pretty picture.

NwC: I didn't mean to ignore your mention of Kalevala the other day. My understanding is that it's a very long poem that ties together various tales of Finnish heroes and derring-do - all in the rhythm that Longfellow borrowed for "The Song of Hiawatha" (On the banks of Gitche-Gumi ...). When droned endlessly in battle, it often caused the other side to scream "Make it stop" before they threw down their arms and ran away. The industrious Scots automated this function in the form of the bagpipe.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 20:13:02 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: Four hours from New Haven

Subject: Pizza or Apizza?

Jeff, does Sally's say "pizza" or "apizza". The latter seems prevalent in New Haven. Mrs. Lee grew up in Hamden, just a spit north. I have visited several excellent places, pizza and apizza in New Haven. Next trip to visit we may check Sally's out. Do they make an eggplant pie?


Entered at Thu Nov 2 19:02:50 CET 2017 from (67.80.25.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: JQ

JQ, it's funny. I loved the white potatoe, onion, & parmesan pie at Sally's. And i think everyone should eat half a pie of it before they die. But,. though it's the realest pizza alright, & they have one helluva crust, a alightly little untypical yet very typical of the finest crusts,something about it is unpizzalike. And it;s not that it doesnt have tomato sauce. Potato, and even onion are just odd things to put on pizza. To me. I loved it, really did, but, if i never eat it again, or dont eat ot again for five years, i'm okay. When i go back with people who haven;t had it i might have a small slice but go for other things myself....yet that onion taste won't or might not mix well with other pizza tastes in your mouth.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 18:34:37 CET 2017 from (67.80.25.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Tradition

Thinking about Sally's Pizza for a minute, the dedication these men have is amazing. The pie is the same pie their father made 60 or 70s years ago, and it is to die for. The place operates 5 days a week, three from 4 to 9, and the other two days are slightly longer hours. When i got there at 4:45 the place was half full, of mostly older folk, at essentially 59 I was one of the few youngsters. By 6:15 the place was filling up, including some younger folk, even as young as 30ish..

But, dont ya think that if the kids of the two sons of Sal wanted to go into the family abusiness that the old timers woulda retired? Or worked for em? I gotta figure that the old men are there cause they just don;t want to give up the ship, don;t want to see this tradition, this neighborhood & food fixture die away. I spoke with one for a bit, he is face lit up when i told him we drove from Brooklyn special ( on the advice of a bass player) & that i loved his pie. Talking with some other customers, they mostly been going there since they were kids....

The metal trays the pie is served on are a thing of the past too. You gotta see em stack one on top of two already one a table. ..Clunk, whar a sound also...You could kill some one if you hit em on the head with one of these..

the world needs these places... and these kind of people in it.

Tradition.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 18:27:04 CET 2017 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: White potato and onion!

JFC that sounds tremendous! For some reason out here, even in PDX proper, I can’t find anything like that. We likely beat the east coast when it comes to tacos, etc but for pizza it’s go east young man!


Entered at Thu Nov 2 17:41:57 CET 2017 from (67.80.25.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, that last post of yours contained some fine food & drink criticism. Hell, plain old fine writing: "Tastes great. Blows your head off in the bar. And your arse off when you get back to the hotel." Cracked me up.

On that note, i drove up to Sally's Pizza in New Haven yesteday. The original ower's sons run it- in their 70s. They have 4 workers, all over 60 i'd say. Well, one might be in his 50s. .The original joint, original decor,wood paneling from i guess the 30s,all booth saeating, place looks like a diner/moose lodge/pizzeria all in one. We had the white potatoe and onion pie, which is those ingedients with a lot of parmesan cheese ( not mozz, or the commrcially supplied pizza cheese) , baked in the ancient original oven. Phenomenal. Next time I'll try the clam. Worth the two hour trip each way.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 17:33:26 CET 2017 from (67.80.25.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Linked McEuen interview about leaving The Nitty Gritty, why, and his career.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 16:54:15 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Champagne perry tasted good enough to fool generations of British women (mainly) that it was champagne. In the West of England, rough cider is the cause of much eye-watering stomach acidity.

The roughest cider I saw was in Galicia in Spain. The bars have a trough running along the base that looks … and smells … exactly like a urinal. You get a glass. It's cloudy and the bottom third is pulp. You drink the top and throw the dregs into the trough. Or urinal. Tastes great. Blows your head off in the bar. And your arse off when you get back to the hotel.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 15:41:17 CET 2017 from (70.24.156.137)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: An I can never get enough

“I’m on the night train/Love that stuff . . . .” Thanks for the Guns N’ Roses info, Kevin. I never made the connection. Aging brain, I guess. Also thanks to Peter for the Perry wine explainer. . . . So, then, I was drinking fermented pear juice? All I can remember is that it was smooth. Likely from the years the bottle spent inside my wine cupboard. I’m a sucker for sweet apply cider, particularly now in Niagara harvest season, but I’m told that one glassful is comparable to eating 5-6 apples. Hello diarrhea.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 15:18:42 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Perry

Perry is pear cider … in Britain we only call it cider if it's alcoholic. Nowadays there are ranks of "designer perry" in stores next to the "designer ciders." They also make perry wines. The bestseller is Babycham (baby champagne), sold in tiny bottles and the favourite drink of women a few years older than me.

The other British cheap sparkler was Pomagne … made from apples and sold in full size bottles. Extremely sweet, but really cheap. We once won a case of 12 at a school raffle. We tried one, and donated eleven bottles to the next school raffle.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 11:05:06 CET 2017 from (86.166.233.45)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

My wife and I polished off a bottle of Ripasso last night. Beautiful.

We enjoyed Canadian wine on our holiday. Nice. Bought it at Honest Eds.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 03:42:40 CET 2017 from (202.85.75.13)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Mike Nomad - Night Train Express

Mike..... The guys in Guns n Roses enjoyed that wine so much that they wrote a song about it. On the Appetite for Destruction album.


Entered at Thu Nov 2 00:48:13 CET 2017 from (74.12.32.190)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: My wife's still quite partial to Chianti Ruffino, and I've grown to appreciate it too. I'm totally unfamiliar with everything else you guys have been talking about, except for the stuff that the British and Australians call lemonade. It was in the Outback that I was introduced to Tia Maria with lemonade. A very pretty young woman was a good part of the reason I tried it, but it certainly tasted good at the time. (Got a note from her today saying her daughter's getting married - so Tia Maria is very ancient history.)


Entered at Thu Nov 2 00:49:59 CET 2017 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bottle of Wine Fruit of the Vine!!

When yuh gonna let me get sober..........

I remember as a kid, (the brown paper bag drinkers), used to get these red wines called 999 and 444. I was so young I don't remember the reason for those numbers. I just remember being given a "swig" out of that bottle....gawd awful!

Now a day, Susan and I fairly often have a white wine before dinner or with white fish, and a red with dinner. Susan gets our wine from a place like a you brew where you go and bottle your own wine that you have chosen. We have some good wines.

Mixing those drinks. Now I have never been much of a guy for soft drinks, (sody pop). However we have a pop here in Canada called Canada Dry, ginger ale. They have in resent times come out with several flavours, cran berry, black berry, and.......When I bought our yacht we have now there was some ginger ale left in the fridge. "Green Tea Ginger Ale" DAMN....is that stuff good. I started to put it about 2 to 1 in white wine. It is damn good........so there.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 18:53:54 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The wine I most enjoyed drinking was in the early 1980s. I was in a hotel in Tokyo and there was a typhoon. My talk was cancelled. So was that of an author and friend from a rival publisher. We spent the day in the hotel coffee shop, and had a few beers with an equally stuck US baseball team. As the evening wore on, we were bemoaning the then very sweet rose wine that was all you found in most Japanese establishments back then. My friend saw two bottles of straw covered Chianti Ruffino decorating a shelf in the coffee shop. They were full. He tried to buy them. Not for sale. They were decoration. We clubbed together and kept upping the price until the barman finally agreed to sell them … something like £20 each, a ludicrous sum in those days. We retired to a table and drank both. Absolutely delicious, even after five years upright on a shelf.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 18:52:56 CET 2017 from (107.77.97.110)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Spanada (sponn-yadda)

Sorry, I could not find the “nya” symbol for spanish. This one popped up, at least in SoCal, during this era too. It was more of a wine punch deal, similar I think to Sangria and best over ice. I don't recall its power but it could do double duty as a sub for bong water.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 16:50:13 CET 2017 from (70.24.156.137)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Vino tales

One late night in downtown Cleveland, Ohio, in search of a cheap mind-altering beverage, I stumbled into a drug store (a pharmacy, that is) and procured a dust-laden bottle of Night Train Express, a “fine California Perry wine” whatever that was, drawn principally to the black-and-white label depicting a line drawing of a speeding railway steam locomotive barreling into the night. The wine never made it past my lips; a friend managed to steer me into a nearby bar where we found other sustenance. But I kept the bottle on a shelf at home for several years before, in an act of desperation I suppose, I opened it one evening. It turned out to be quite palatable, in fact downright delicious. I think I paid $2.99 for it. That was a long time ago.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 16:05:51 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Wine Women & Loud Happy Songs

Link to Ringo Starr from Beaucoups of Blues. A great record that rarely turns up … I saw one yesterday, but I bought it when it came out in 1970 or 71.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 13:38:52 CET 2017 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Wine, wine, wine, do your stuff...

Back in the college days, yes, Mateus Rose was popular with the ladies, especially. We also liked something called Black Cat, I think a German white that went down well. Of course if you were really short on change, there was "Mad Dog", Mogen-David MD 20/20. More bang for the buck. It is actually still marketed in, what I am told, an array of disgusting flavors and colors, being essentially fruit juice and grain alcohol.

Regarding Italian wine, I went to have dinner at the home of friends of Mrs. Lee #1, an Italian couple. The husband was a supervisor in the garment trade, and would receive tributes of jugs of homemade red wine. It was strong stuff. I found this out the hard way when I was offered a glass, fairly full as I recall. It was not until my eyelids were drooping that I noticed our hosts were cutting theirs with 7-up. I had to go upstairs and take a nap. As we drove home (the Mrs. behind the wheel) that I apologized for my embarrassing (to me) brown on the bus as Mr. Zappa would say. "Oh, no" Mrs. said, "It was a compliment that you were so comfortable in their home that you took a nap!"


Entered at Wed Nov 1 11:50:18 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.183)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Good for the blood according to Grandma

I remember, also, getting a tablespoon of red wine and sugar after every meal (at my grandmother's)...starting at the age of 5. According to her it was good for the blood.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 11:46:05 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.183)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Mixing 7 UP & Red WIne

Peter V: Were your grandmothers all from Italy?!? Anyone growing up in North America, with a grandmother who had immigrated from Italy, knows that concoction from their childhood. It was the gateway drink to a lifetime of imbibing wine.  


Entered at Wed Nov 1 10:26:02 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

We are in the days when RED WINE was what it said on the bottle. None of this merlot and cabernet, let alone Beaujolais or Chateuneuf du Pape.

Did you ever burn corks in the candle flame then use them to draw on the labels? Don Cortez being a good one.

Just in case the North Americans imagine we were mixing still lemonade with lemon juice and bits of lemon with Lambrusco, I should explain that in Britain “lemonade” is Seven-Up or Sprite. In the 60s it would have been Corona in large bottles, then later R. Whites.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 10:16:19 CET 2017 from (86.166.233.45)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

You missed Don Cortez, guys - the wine bottles with the faces on them.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 05:17:47 CET 2017 from (203.160.29.183)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Those crazy Brits...

Jeff: I think they were too busy with putting candles in empty wine bottles and mixing Lambrusco with lemonade. ; )


Entered at Wed Nov 1 01:37:14 CET 2017 from (67.80.30.144)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Didn't you British guys take drugs? Window pane, smoke hash and weed, tuminols, mushrooms, etc etc?


Entered at Wed Nov 1 00:40:39 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Lambrusco was another you could drink in vast quantity. Cheap, not very alcoholic. When we were doing theatre shows for EFL students every week, three of the cast drank Old England Sherry, blended in the UK from Cyprus sherry. That was incredibly strong. I stuck with the Parafino.


Entered at Wed Nov 1 00:21:12 CET 2017 from (86.156.250.41)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Days of Wine and Rose

Hey Pete - remember when Lambrusco became all the rage. It wass pretty cheap I recall and we used to flued it down like lemonade LOL. can't recall exactly when it was but I guess it was early '70's in the next wave after Mateus Rose, Liebfraumilch etc

:-0)


Entered at Wed Nov 1 00:00:37 CET 2017 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Mateus soon lost out to Blue Nun as the favourite rock tipple. We couldn't afford Blue Nun, so subsisted on Lutomer Yugoslav Reisling at half the price. For red it was Hungarian Bulls Blood if flush with cash, or Hungarian Carafino Red if not. Generally known as Parafino, it came in rose and white too. We loved the Chianti served in open carafes at the first pizzeria in town about 1969. A few years later a more discerning friend from out of town pointed out that it had the very distinctive mineral taste of Bournemouth tap water. He reckoned it was at least 25% tap water. Well, we had to make it up with quantity and it was sold in litres.


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