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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, June 2010


Entered at Wed Jun 30 22:58:02 CEST 2010 from (76.64.57.199)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks David.......feels like a Friday today as tomorrow is Canada Day.......I guess this Friday will now feel like a Monday....if only Monday could feel like something other than a Monday......


Entered at Wed Jun 30 22:26:17 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Kevin: The documentary film is in the preview stage, having been screened at SXSW in Austin and just recently at the L.A. film festival. As the business works, I believe the independent producers at this point are trying to get a distribution deal.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 22:25:42 CEST 2010 from (24.108.12.129)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: LEVON

BEG and BILL M. How was the show???


Entered at Wed Jun 30 21:30:55 CEST 2010 from (76.64.57.199)

Posted by:

Kevin J

A couple of things:

* Anyone know if we can order a copy of the LH doc "Ain't in it in it for my health" or is this being rolled out in the typical theatrical release/followed by DVD release format.

* For Toronto residents,,,,Video Flicks at Avenue and Lawrence have a copy of Carny..................reminds me of that Quentin Tarantino story about how he would screen Rio Bravo on a first date...If she liked it...he would see her again...if not...see ya later.........I believe he is still single......perhaps a shortage of good looking girls in LA that love westerns.......


Entered at Wed Jun 30 20:20:46 CEST 2010 from (79.202.167.77)

Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Subject: TLW HD

David, I'll watch the blu-ray version soon. Thanks, I'll take a close look at the most discussed TLW nose …. Anyway I’m with Tull on the 3D thing, that will be a hard one …. then again you never know....


Entered at Wed Jun 30 19:41:41 CEST 2010 from (76.64.57.199)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Non Alcoholic drinks, Electoric Cigs, Condoms, 100 hour work weeks - Hating 2010

True story....while at university early 80's....I took a course which was referred to as a "bird course"....students took these bird courses in order to get their marks up to help for admittance to grad school........anyhow. one of these courses was called "Computers and Society".........I still remember the first class vividly and think of it often.......The Professor started by explaining that within a few years.....we would all have computers in our homes and that our families would be able to shop from home, do banking from home, etc..................The kicker was he said that our father's would be able to work from home.....the entire auditorium ( bird courses attracted large class sizes! ) broke out in loud and sustained laughter at just the thought of that......anyhow , he concluded his opening remarks by assuring everyone that despite all the changes this new computer technology would bring to society, the good part was that productivity would be enhanced to such a degree that work weeks would be reduced and the 4 day week would likely be the norm...................Everything he said did come true EXCEPT productivity leading to reduced working hours........quite the opposite has happened......


Entered at Wed Jun 30 19:27:41 CEST 2010 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Cobi: Nice to see you looking in again. Hope you stick around.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 19:18:05 CEST 2010 from (216.221.95.138)

Posted by:

Cobi

Location: Ontario
Web: My link

Subject: Levon at Massey Hall

What a fantastic show!!! It's amazing how loud that band sounds in Massey Hall, and it's even louder in 'the barn'. I couldn't believe how many Band songs they played. I was hoping to see some of my old friends there from my time on this guestbook a few years back.. like Angelina and John Donabie. But, John introduced the band! Yeah John! I felt good to reunite! -Ophelia Anna Lee


Entered at Wed Jun 30 19:05:39 CEST 2010 from (204.210.144.110)

Posted by:

Lars

SteveOnChair- Don't kid yourself, you ARE leading a life of luxury. Your sorryass work ethic is an embarrassment to anyone who works for a living. I never met a farmer who spent his days on-line and I doubt that any real farmer would want to. You're just a glorified bovine babysitter, you sorryassed shit-disturber.

It's a beautiful, cool and sunny day here in the Hudson Valley. A great day to get outside and enjoy God's green earth.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 18:42:44 CEST 2010 from (64.11.26.38)

Posted by:

Steve

But Kevin, we're supposed to be leading lives of leisure with all the time our modern gadgets save us.

I was having a discussion with one of the brothers in law this weekend about how we now seem to have a 21 hour day as opposed to the 24 hour kind we started to enjoy in the 60's and 70's.

We agreed ( he's a US postman and a self informed historian) that the 60's were probably the apex of work life for the commoner in North America.

5 day, 40 hours or less work weeks. Living wages for unskilled labour, room for promotion and job security.

The people who make their living by our work just didn't like the trend they saw and push back started with Reagan in the US and Mulroney a little less than a decade later, here.

The situation in the US seems worse than here judging by all the stressed out over worked people I saw over the weekend but it's not much better here.

We came to the conclusion that we're rapidly headed back to serfdom. Serfs with cars and electronic gadgets but serfs none the less.

I'm reading Bill Bryson's book, The Life And Times Of The Thunderbolt Kid. There's a great car ad from the late 50's that says, just think of the time you'd save doing errands if your family had a second car, you could cut the time in half. You could spend so much more time with your family.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 17:22:59 CEST 2010 from (76.64.57.199)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I have this image of Norm sitting in the middle of some beautiful bed of water somewhere in the interior of BC listening to Merle Haggard....sun going down.......life is wonderful....he then pops open his laptop.........clicks on the GB and screams at the top of his lungs....'Gawdamn Steve!!!!"

:Thanks for the link bob w..............saved me 53cents today........my brother and I have been talking about going to a ramble for years........then Levon brings it to TO and we don't even make that......there are these great ads running on TV - not sure the product - where the catch line is "When I grow up, I am going to write a book or become a chef or travel the world", etc......just finding time to have drinks with friends on a Friday night seems difficult these days...................


Entered at Wed Jun 30 16:30:37 CEST 2010 from (24.240.17.61)

Posted by:

ICon

Location: GA

Subject: Neil

One time, early 80's in Statesboro, GA at the edge of dawn during the full mode party years, some good, rare, mellow coke showed up. It was a friend of a friend and I. Everyone else went to sleep. We split a gram. He snorted his all at once and settled back. I was playing Neil's "After the Goldrush". He said he'd spent time in Reidsville Prison and the only thing that got him through was that song and a wise sage-like, martial artist, lifer who taught him spiritual stuff about staying sane in prison. I played this song for him on the stereo, he sank back in his chair and closed his eyes. It was weird. We weren't hanging anymore, he was somewhere else, the place that prison sage taught him about. The song ended and he came out of it like a new man, like I'd set him free. He shook my hand profusely thanking me for what I'd done for him by playing that song and letting him trip off to wherever he went, then he left. Weird night - weird song. Almost 30 years later and not into drugs anymore. A post from the past. But still, Neil Young has that effect. Missed him at the Fox recently. It's tough getting older. Artist: Neil Young Lyrics Song: After The Gold Rush Lyrics Well, I dreamed I saw the knights In armor coming, Saying something about a queen. There were peasants singing and Drummers drumming And the archer split the tree. There was a fanfare blowing To the sun That was floating on the breeze. Look at Mother Nature on the run In the nineteen seventies. Look at Mother Nature on the run In the nineteen seventies. I was lying in a burned out basement With the full moon in my eyes. I was hoping for replacement When the sun burst thru the sky. There was a band playing in my head And I felt like getting high. I was thinking about what a Friend had said I was hoping it was a lie. Thinking about what a Friend had said I was hoping it was a lie. Well, I dreamed I saw the silver Space ships flying In the yellow haze of the sun, There were children crying And colors flying All around the chosen ones. All in a dream, all in a dream The loading had begun. They were flying Mother Nature's Silver seed to a new home in the sun. Flying Mother Nature's Silver seed to a new home.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 14:16:22 CEST 2010 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Review of last night's Ramble at Massey Hall.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 12:46:12 CEST 2010 from (64.11.26.239)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Are We Clear?

Norm, that multiple personality problem is surfacing again.

Pay attention, we are already a Nation here in Quebec, officially recognized by Harpo The Clown which gives us all kinds of additional perks.

As a matter of fact, that new Harmonized Sales Tax he starts collecting from you tomorrow ( Canada Day Ha Ha) is being sent here to help pay for services in The Nation OF Quebec so we can maintain the standard of living we are entitled to.

I thank you in advance for your hard earned tax money, now get out there and start spending and spending and spending. The more you spend the better we get to live. It works for both of us. That's the great thing about taxes. Every time you get something , I get something.

If we don't feel we're getting enough cash from this tax we just might have to hold another Sovereignty Referendum, or as we call them here in the Nation Of Quebec, a fund raiser.

So, remember, from now on think of me every time you buy something. You know I appreciate your donations.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 12:14:51 CEST 2010 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Norm, be careful. There could be lists of nasty adjectives headed your way.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 03:36:34 CEST 2010 from (138.88.157.112)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Wow, Norm, you take this Queen thing real serious don't ya?

I plan on visiting Japan since my oldest son is teaching there. I will bow to the Japanese folks and I'm sure they will bow right back. I'll forgive them for Pearl Harbor if they forgive me for Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

I saw a confederate flag this weekend near Cumberland, MD (near Pennsylvania) that I'd never seen "in person," only in a book. I'll be posting those pics on Facebook soon. No, I don't fly a confederate flag but I do own an older (small)version of the Georgia state flag. It's hidden away in a drawer somewhere --

J.F.


Entered at Wed Jun 30 02:51:12 CEST 2010 from (204.210.144.110)

Posted by:

Lars

Norm...can you ...repeat that middle part again?


Entered at Wed Jun 30 01:46:50 CEST 2010 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Seperation

Don't worry Steve! We're doing all we can to hasten getting you into your OWN country so we don't have to be bothered listening to your shit any more.

We're also recomending they let YOU run the country. There is no doubt in any one's mind you could do a far better job than any elected official. I mean after all......after listening to you here for years now. We are all firmly convinced! You know every fucking thing there is to know about nothing because everything you say is worth nothing, so there is nothing wrong with any gawd damn thing that you do. THEREFORE! There is nothing left to say about anything that you know nothing about.........are we clear??????


Entered at Wed Jun 30 01:07:14 CEST 2010 from (64.11.26.177)

Posted by:

Steve

The oil and gas industry is his favorite, he'd probably love NASCAR. There's even a circuit from what I understand, this could keep him out of the country for months. Sounds great, I'll send the idea to his office. This is the first suggestion I send his way that doesn't involve him finding another line of work.

Actually, maybe we can involve his other favorite "cultural event", his hometown's, Calgary Stampede, in this NASCAR holiday.

He could play the improvised role of the NASCAR rodeo clown, just toss him out on the track in a clown suit. Red Bull must have a car on the circuit.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 22:48:39 CEST 2010 from (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: 3-D

I do not think they can make a 3-D release out of a film not shot in 3-D originally. At best it would be some type of weird 'fake 3-D' just like fake stereo. I'd be as skeptical as colorized movies. The director did not intend it that way, so it is not a true representation of the film even if you could achieve it through technology.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 22:33:39 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: TLW in HD

Norbert: I don't know about a 3-D version, but I did notice when viewing the blu-ray version of "The Last Waltz" you can clearly see that not all the white substance in Neil Young's nostril was removed by the rotoscope in editing.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 22:26:56 CEST 2010 from (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Steve, we can send him to a NASCAR race if you wish.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 22:08:51 CEST 2010 from (64.11.26.147)

Posted by:

Steve

OK, Tull, we'll have to dispose of him ourselves. But he really, really likes your country. He'd probably admit to wanting to be American as opposed to a Canadian if it wouldn't hurt his chances of winning a majority government in the future.

He went so far as to write a letter of apology to the New York Times as Leader Of The Official Opposition when The Canadian Gov't decided not to join in the war crime of invading Iraq.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 21:34:05 CEST 2010 from (91.42.236.60)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Unboxing The Band

Surfing for a new laptop, watching all those unboxing vids in YouTube I wonder why there aren’t any The Band unboxing vids on the www. With the right touch, speed and sound this could boost TLW blu ray ipad 3G version.

B.t.w. when will Sony launch the TLW 3D version, any news on that?


Entered at Tue Jun 29 21:26:00 CEST 2010 from (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Steve, nothing offends me about Obama on a personal level, nor did Bush offend me on a personal level. Were I stuck in a car for a ten hour trip with either I would probably enjoy it. My problem with Obama is his politics, leadership style, policies and abilities. As Presidents go, and as disastrous presidential terms go, Bush and Obama are strikingly similar. Take away the Left-Wing and Right Wing packaging, and you have the same guy! The poor residents of New Orleans would know what I am talking about. And thanks but no thanks on your guy.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 20:40:50 CEST 2010 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Dripping with Sarcasm!

You go for it Lars! I'm on board and,Really! looking forward to meeting the REV!

Yeah, Yeah Steve sarcasm hummm? You're still TMOCS!

See I don't see how bringing up a war that happened over 200 years ago and sticking it in our English friends face here serves any purpose? It would be the same as saying, I ain't shaking hands with no one from Japan because of Pearl Harbour. I have witnessed, (on TV) memorials where those folks of today have taken part in that Harbour, and with great anguish, apologized for that. So rather than healing any wounds, bringing some thing like that up is more like rubbing salt on it......Y'all!

Now let me say this about that......I am not an advocate of Monarchies in any country. In this day and age, Kings & Queens with untold wealth & dripping with gold & jewel studded crowns is pretty stupid. However to curtsey to an old lady in her eighties to show respect, whether to her position, or her age, I don't see any thing wrong with. The rest of it was in bad taste. But of course thats your style any ways.....share cropper.:)

Now get back to the music.....Get Back, Get Back, Get Back to where you once belong! I'm goin' back to listening to Joe Cocker sing, "Unchain my Heart"


Entered at Tue Jun 29 19:05:22 CEST 2010 from (64.11.26.110)

Posted by:

Steve

Tull, remember, it's a trade. You get Harper, who is as close as you can get to a mashup between Cheney and Georgie Boy. He comes with GWB's evangelical, born again, Christian blues and a good dose of Cheney's hate all in one package.

If I can ask, what is it exactly you find so offensive about Obama? If I'm going to take him in trade I'd like to be warned about any hidden defects.

Great choice Lars, Norm's diplomatic charms would guarantee smooth sailing.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 18:29:19 CEST 2010 from (204.210.144.110)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: the Right Side

Subject: Elect Hargus and Lars: Fifty four forty or fight!!!

NORM- It warms my heart to hear you say that stuff because Rev Billy and I are running a presidential campaign to bring change to North America in 2012, 2013 at the latest, depending on the survival rate. I want you to be my ambassador to Canada.

Wel-l-l-l, I hafta get back to my chores.

Band link: Change Is Good


Entered at Tue Jun 29 18:20:30 CEST 2010 from (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Rivers

Anyone mention "Dirty Water" by the Standells(The Charles)

Did you notice that there was a "Button" on the video page of The Blue Nile that classified them as "Disco". Huh?


Entered at Tue Jun 29 18:11:41 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Royal Buckeroo

If it's any consolation, we did get to see Prince Harry fall off his polo pony & land on his royal arse during his visit to New York this past weekend.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 17:17:25 CEST 2010 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Public Relations

You're the best at public relations Lars. It would be great to see everyone in the Whitehouse respond with your attitude.

You sure are a "haughty southerner Jan" keep your nose up there in the air. That is just about the dumbest comment I've heard.

So the point is not to respect any one in any other country in their manner. If you go to Japan, you don't "lower yourself" to bow to anyone?

You've just shown the attitude that "some" Americans show world wide that brings about that "hate the USA" syndrome. I don't understand why you would take that attitude. Old "Lizzy" never had anything to do with that war, nor did you. I bet you still fly that confederate flag.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 17:08:23 CEST 2010 from (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Leader Swap

Steve, would you like me to put a ribbon on Obama before I send him to you? You can have him!


Entered at Tue Jun 29 17:03:24 CEST 2010 from (64.11.26.94)

Posted by:

Steve

O Bama Belle, thanks for explaining what that war was about, it's as good a reason as the one given for the Iraq war.

BEG, if enough people pee in a river for long enough you get Yellow River.

Hey, Yanks, want to swap a your president for our Neo Con fascist?

Our little fascist spent $1.2 billion for that display of police state violence. Last year the US gov't hosted the same G20 and spent 18 million dollars on security.

Police donated their time and were payed only for out of pocket expenses and destruction was kept to a minimum.

Harper, by contrast, in a show of policing power payed all expenses for 20,000 militia-like thugs plus bought all the newest crowd control weaponry they wanted.

The cost to repair the damage in Toronto is estimated to be more than 10 times what it was in Pittsburgh. There's lesson there to be learned.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 16:42:54 CEST 2010 from (204.210.144.110)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Right Side of the Atlantic

Subject: Our British Cousins

I dunno, Jan. Historically speaking, I believe the Americans fought against Britain because we didn't like their tea. And our guys liked to get dressed up like Indians.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 16:34:41 CEST 2010 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro D.C. aka "Hell"

Subject: Rollings Stone, the Queen

Finally got the current copy of Rolling Stone in the mail yesterday. Tore the cover off and I was on my way . . . good articles this month & nice pic of Levon with his 70th b'day cake.

Norm, better late than never: respect the Queen very much but we fought a war so we wouldn't have to bow/curtsy to HRH. ;-)

J.F.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 16:09:35 CEST 2010 from (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Charlie, glad I checked in to lurk to day as I came upon your post. I have to agree, the recent upgrades to Richmond's airport makes it my favorite anywhere. It's not the biggest, nor does it have a lot of long-distance direct flights, but it is modern, clean, convenient, and very accessible. That is great she is moving to Richmond. I think our metro area is among the most livable in the country; good schools, low traffic, climate, proximity to mountains and beach and the rest of the East Coast. I am taking my whole family to see the Fagan/Scaggs/Michael McDonald show Aug 28 at Innsbrook in Richmond. Maybe we will see you there!


Entered at Tue Jun 29 14:06:57 CEST 2010 from (76.68.81.18)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rivers of Babylon...Boney M
Many Rivers To Cross...Jimmy Cliff. Didn't The Reformed Band cover this song as well?
Amazon Rivers of Dreams...Reformed Band
Somewhere Down The Crazy River...Robbie Robertson

Fun thinking of songs that I have in my music collection.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 13:54:03 CEST 2010 from (76.68.81.18)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Cry Me A River...Love Joe Cocker's version from The Mad Dogs and Englishman Tour

You Don't Pull No Punches but You Don't Push The River...Van Morrison

BET Awards show was so good on Sunday night! Tribute to Prince, El Debarge's comeback, Eminem, Chris Brown.....I want to watch these performers again!

I took out imagezulu for his birthday on Friday and we heard "The Shape I'm In" while waiting for our dinner. He probably didn't notice....lol


Entered at Tue Jun 29 13:43:15 CEST 2010 from (76.68.81.18)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Lou Reed - Hudson River Wind Meditations

Stevon Farm...I didn't post about YR.

Westcoaster...I miss Johnny Rivers voice.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 13:43:02 CEST 2010 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Thank you, dlew.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 13:39:36 CEST 2010 from (76.68.81.18)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

River...Joni Mitchell

Grand River...Robbie Robertson and brown eyed girl connected by this river. :-D

Too tired to talk about our G8 and G20 meetings in detail but will say that....Half of my class was away on Friday. imagezulu and I got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time on Saturday afternoon. Yesterday I had a hospital appointment and was told there was a lockdown so I couldn't get in due to protest in the same area near Police Headquarters.

Hey hey!
Ho Ho!
Police State gotta go!


Entered at Tue Jun 29 13:31:18 CEST 2010 from (64.11.26.66)

Posted by:

Steve

Yellow River, has been mentioned, BEG.

The Blue Danube.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 13:23:12 CEST 2010 from (76.68.81.18)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Pissing In A River...Patti Smith


Entered at Tue Jun 29 13:01:00 CEST 2010 from (59.101.34.82)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Dunc; Bob W

The scots run the world, dunc ...

Bob: great news. Glad he's ok


Entered at Tue Jun 29 12:29:38 CEST 2010 from (64.11.26.57)

Posted by:

Steve

The theme music from "Red River" (Settle Down).


Entered at Tue Jun 29 11:47:15 CEST 2010 from (81.129.171.180)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: 'Moondog Matinee' Peter V

Peter:Really enjoyed re-reading the notes on 'Moondog Matinee'. Couldn't agree more with 'Share Your Love'. I noticed that you wrote it 12 years ago. Thanks for the effort- a lot of thought and work - third time I've read it. I'd probably rate 'A Change is Gonna Come' higher in the ratings.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 11:17:38 CEST 2010 from (81.129.171.180)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: 'Share Your Love'

Bob W:good news

David P:Love Me Do was 1962!

Moondog Matinee is a brilliant album. 'Share Your Love' surely reaches the very heights in popular music and the playing on 'Mystery Train' is exceptional. Levon and Garth duetting!


Entered at Tue Jun 29 09:35:54 CEST 2010 from (76.99.245.65)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: By the Turtle Pond

Subject: Ouch, Westcoaster...

I forgot one of my favorites. I'm an employee of a short term psychiatric facility. One of our patients is a beautifully simple 57 yr old schizophrenic guy who just LOVES the music of Andy Williams, Dusty Springfield and Duke Ellington. Once a week or so, I'd show him YouTube clips of Andy, on shows like Dean Martin's variety show. One of our favorites is Andy Williams singing "Moon River" to/with Kermit on "The Muppett Show". The look on his face is priceless.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 06:00:37 CEST 2010 from (174.141.120.106)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Main Line Florida (This Week)

Subject: Summer Shows

I read that Donald Fagen, Michael McDonald and Boz Scaggs will include a song or two from The Band in their setlist for their late summer tour.

I bought my ticket for one of two DC-area shows by the reunited Desert Rose Band. As a longtime Chris Hillman fan, I look forward to seeing the group that gave him the biggest personal commercial success of their career. I bought all their CDs but never saw them in concert, so I'm happy to have a second chance.

By the way: I really enjoyed flying to Florida on the impressive Jet Blue Airlines out of the wonderful Richmond, Virginia airport today. JTF, you have a nice place there. My daughter is escaping DC and moving down to Richmond this week, so your population is growing.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 04:13:31 CEST 2010 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Yikes!!!! I forgot!

ONE OF THE BIGGEST OF ALL TIME!!........MOON RIVER


Entered at Tue Jun 29 02:59:52 CEST 2010 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Real People

Well.......you're always a comfort Lars. I think that's something you enjoy being good at. I don't think there are enough people as lucky as I am. I guess that realization sets into you the older you get.

Anyway the greatest thing about this internet (for me). I just put on my favourite piece of music, "Maria Elena" by Los Indios Tabajeras, and while it plays, on Face Book, I look at at all the newest pictures of my newest grand daughter Elena. When they are a ways away, and you can't get to see them as often as you'd like, that is the next best thing.

Well, it seems ol' Steve is rather silent. Did some one kick him in the nuts? or is he just mellow? I was just watching Union Station do a smokin' job of "Man of Constant Sorrow". It came to me.......THAT'S STEVE! He's doom and gloom about everything.......so youze guys, from now on Steve is.....MOCS!.....man of constant sorrow.

There......take that.......farmer:):):):):)


Entered at Tue Jun 29 02:19:46 CEST 2010 from (204.138.58.96)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dave H: I'm good with that, though now I'd be okay with colourless rivers as well. Or even "Black Water" by the Doobies if somebody were to mention it; the fact that it keeps on moving suggests river rather than lake.


Entered at Tue Jun 29 02:12:45 CEST 2010 from (204.210.144.110)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Big River

NORM- Well said. Now as far as rivers go, I can think of Big River, Saskatchewan as being the place where I've gone deer hunting three different years.

But getting back to your point, Norm...we've all lost loved ones and so we know how bad it feels. It's only natural to remember that feeling when Levon talks about Richard and how he "left early." Time can bring a sense of peace back into our lives, but it can never fill that hole that is there; that permanent void that is attached to the memory of our friend or family member. I remember that story you told me about the bear. All of this is what a survivor has to carry with him; it's the "way of the world" as Rick would say. We are left with no choice but to "beat on, like boats against the currents."--(paraphrased) F.S. Fitzgerald


Entered at Tue Jun 29 01:24:00 CEST 2010 from (76.216.23.174)

Posted by:

Dave H

Bill M: How about "Black Muddy River" by Festival Express compadres the Grateful Dead?


Entered at Tue Jun 29 01:02:00 CEST 2010 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: OH!

Sorry Bill...I'm sure you know I was only joking anyway, and not being rude.......although....I'm pretty good at that. I didn't see what you were getting at. My "excuse" is I just woke up, groggy from sleeping too much and not thinking straight.......not that I ever do.

Isn't it funny how you can't store sleep! Even tho' it's a complete waste of time.....it seems more necessary the older you get. There were times in my 30's out commercial fishing, where I could go 30 hours at a shot and it didn't even bother me. Now....sometimes, although we do about 4 hour shifts on and off at the wheel, when we have to load and unload and we're both up. Then you get behind on sleep. So sometimes, I'm doing 16 hours or so. I'm starting to feel it now.

As I laid back in the hot tub, after listening to my tunes and clearing my mind for awhile, the mourning set in for a little. When I watch Richard Manuel sing "You Don't Know Me", it's hard to accept someone with that talent could become so emotionally unbalanced as to take his life.

I've been a musician all my life, and although not that good, good enough to recognize one who is exceptional. After all these, (long over) 20 years, some times you still mourne. In thinking that I expect, for his family, it never goes away.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Westcoaster: My topic was coloured rivers, so Big doesn't work, technically speaking - though there's nothing wrong with it. If we're going to be less picky regarding modifiers, there's "River Hymn" by our guys and "Take Me To The River" by one of our guys. And "Long River" on Lightfoot's first album; that was my only album by anybody (aside from Wilf Carter's "Christmastime in Canada") for a long time, so I listened to it a lot - and can't play it in my head without adding the skip-and-repeat that overuse had carved into the grooves.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Dunc, thank you for asking about Chris. He has completed his third deployment and is now back in San Diego at Camp Pendleton. His four year enlistment will be complete in just a few more months. We look forward to having him back home soon.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Day That John Met Paul

Dunc: I would note that next week, July 6th, marks the 53rd anniversary of the day that John Lennon first met Paul McCartney at St. Peter's Church Hall in Woolton, Liverpool.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Beatles in Scotland

Over the years I've found that people know of Paul's links with Scotland, but know nothing of John's.


Entered at Mon Jun 28 21:45:01 CEST 2010 from (81.129.171.180)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Westcoaster

Couldn't agree more. I play 'Moondog Matinee' often just to listen to the singing, although the instrument work is great too.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bob W

I play 'A Walk Across The Rooftops', but it was Robbie who took me into them with 'Breaking the Rules' and I asked about them on the GB at the time. I think the album was released and they had never played a concert, but the concerts were reviewed very favourably. They have a very loyal support in Glasgow.

Two or three years ago Paul Buchanan played two or three shows at our concert hall which were very well received and sold out quickly.

Hope your son is OK?

Just now I'm working my way through the Beatles' albums. Really enjoy the Scottish accents on 'When I'm 64' which I never heard before until I bought the reissue to replace the worn CD I had.

A popular seller last year was 'The Beatles in Scotland' which I may buy, but I may buy the Paul McCartney biography suggested by David P.


Entered at Mon Jun 28 19:23:35 CEST 2010 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Inspiration & Kern River

Just after I posted, I thought of that same thing David. I have a casette tape of my favourites on my tug. Much of it Merle. Kern River plays very often on my tug....thank you.

Some mornings when I get up after coming home, and getting some "real" rest, I come down to my music room here, get youtube on line and play two particular songs that bring me comfort, relaxation, and insperation.

Anyone who could ever, not like the band, or realize their talent has never truly listened to two white men sing the songs of two of the greatest black men of all time. Do these songs so well with great feeling and talent.

Listen to Rick Danko do Sam Cooke's, "A Change is Gonna Come" and Richard Manuel do Ray Charles, "You Don't Know Me". THAT is inspirational......to me. That they can do them so well and make you really feel....there's nothing better.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Rivers

Didn't Springsteen have a song "The River'?


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Posted by:

David P

Then there's the somewhat off-colorful "Wide, Wide River" a/k/a "River of Sh**t", an ecological warning from The Fugs.

westcoaster: Do you remember Merle Haggard's great "Kern River", about the California river whose deadly currents have caused hundreds of drownings over the years?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Rivers?????

Big River......Johnny Cash.....now smarten up Bill!

Old Man River...by who???....David will tell yuh.

Joan Rivers, Johnny Rivers.......I'm tired I bin running a tug night & day.

Oh the night time.....night & day.......is the right time.. night & day....to be with....night & day......the one you love........


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: O Yangtze, Yangtze Kayam ...

Speaking of colourful rivers, there's "Green River" by CCR, "Blue River" by Eric Andersen, "Yellow River" by Christie (not to be confused with the above by Monty Python), "The [Implicitly Blue-White And Hard] River" by Joni Mitchell, "The Red River Valley" by everybody ...


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: A Walk Across The Rooftops with The Blue Nile

Yes Bob, Paul Buchanan, Robert Bell and Paul Moore of The Blue Nile all back Robbie on "Breakin' the Rules", resulting in a sound with the distinctive atmospheric yearning of that group's work.

I had the pleasure of seeing The Blue Nile in concert in Atlanta following the release of their second album "Hats" and they were amazing. That album was a worthy follow-up to their debut masterpiece "A Walk Across The Rooftops". Another great collaboration was their duet with Rickie Lee Jones on their song "Easter Parade". It originally appeared on a rare Linn Records single and was later included on Ms. Jones' "Duchess of Coolsville" compilation CD set.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Bill, they are wonderful. You have heard the lead singer, Paul Buchanan, on Robbie's "Breakin' The Rules"...I'm sure.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Hadn't heard of Blue Nile before. Their "Heart And Soul" sounds to me like Marc Cohn singing "The Heart Of The Matter". That's a good thing.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Dunc, have you had the good fortune of seeing The Blue Nile perform live?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Guitar

BEG: An excellent feature.....thank you ......and I also wish very much that I had been able to see the Band play in that 1961-1965 era.........


Entered at Mon Jun 28 15:02:09 CEST 2010 from (204.138.58.96)

Posted by:

Bill M

Norbert: Thanks for the Clapton / Band link. I was impressed with both what Clapton said and how he said it.

BEG: Thanks for the link to Concert Canadienne. A have that boxed set of LPs around somewhere, but can't recall much about who else is on it - Michel Pagliaro for sure, Doug Riley I think ... but Troiano's as close as it comes to our guys. I have a hazy memory of t least some of it being played on Ryerson's campus station when I was installed there in the '70s.


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Posted by:

Steve

Driving down 93 south in Vermont to Rhode Island on Thursday we came up behind a Super Patriot driving a big Chevy pickup. His whole tailgate was covered with a hand painted American flag with a somewhat amusing/confusing statement underneath it; THE UNITED STATES, THERE'S ONLY ONE!


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Helm docu

Joan, thanks.

Documentary about Levon Helm (link)


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Cathy Smith

The last I heard, she did her "time", was paroled and deported to Canada where she is working giving anti drug lectures to schools and the sort.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Peter, sorry. Anyway that should've been 4-2.


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Posted by:

Steve

Well done Fred, I think we're opening up a whole new avenue of interpretation of the songs of The Band.

In the early 80's we bought a well used AMC Matador, a real boat of a car, probably weighed as much as Norm's tug.

This was during the brief period of the Falkland's war. We named the the beast, The General Belgrano, after the sunken Argentinian cruiser. The name was shortened to the General B. Hey, it rhymes with General Lee.


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Could THIS, then, be....

The Robert E. Lee?!? (click on link)


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Posted by:

Steve

Makes sense, Bill. Why else use "Drove" in the song. Do you figure, The Robert E Lee, was just the name of another Old Boat they or a friend owned and drove around in? This is a group of guys who probably spent more time in cars in the mid 60's than they did doing anything else.

Of course, tearing up the tracks was happening in 1965 as well as 1865. Unlike , Steve Goodman, our guys probably didn't have the disappearing railroad blues.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Cathy Smith .... I'm off.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Subject: Kathy Smith

Summer has finally found Germany, 30 C or more, I wonder what ever happened to Kathy Smith and will Germany beat England? I'll take the dog for a walk.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Clapton and The Band, at 0.50sec. some rare (?) rehearsal footage. B.t.w. our Garth is God.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro D.C.
Web: My link

Subject: Larry Jon Wilson

RIP Larry Jon Wilson. He passed away Friday from a stroke in Roanoke, VA while visiting his son's family & first grandchild.

Steve & I had taken our bikes out for a couple of days to Cumberland, MD and my sister called me yesterday about 5:00 pm to let me know Larry Jon had died. She played in clubs with him when they lived in Augusta, Ga. He went to Nashville way back then and came back home with a song from "some new guy" named Kris Kristofferson. The song was "Me & Bobby McGee" and they were all just blown away. Of course, he was an outstanding song writer himself - he just got a late start and was never recognized as much as he should have been.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Blue Jays Way

David P: It will also be the first time in the Blue Jays' history that they've played a home game on a natural grass field. Now if they'd only ditch those silly black uniforms and atrocious caps...


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Blue Jay Way

I neglected to mention another peculiar twist in the baseball series moving to Philadelphia. With Toronto as the home team, the American League's designated hitter rule is in effect, where the pitcher is not required to bat.


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Posted by:

Test

Test


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: And it's boo, boo, boo for the home team...

The G20 conference has created a strange situation in the world of baseball, as this weekend's MLB inner-league series scheduled to be played in Toronto had to be moved to the other team's ballpark in Philadelphia. Despite the change of venue, Toronto will still officially be the home team, with the Phillies considered the visitors in their own ballpark. For you non-baseball fans -- the home teams enjoys the scoring oportunity advantage of batting last each inning. They also usually have the advantage of playing in friendly confines before their own fans, which certainly won't be the case for Toronto in this instance. If that's not confusing enough for some, from a statistic standpoint, the Phillies will be considered the home team. Now, can you tell me who's on first? :-)


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Domenic Troiano, The Hawk and Robbie Robertson

"Part of a radio broadcast/documentary on Canadian artists, later released as a limited edition LP box set. This segment includes interview snippets from Troiano, Shawne Jackson and Ronnie Hawkins."

The Hawk praises Troiano and especially Robbie. Nomadic Mike and Jerry T.....You are so blessed that you were there when the magic began..... :-D


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Alright....Finally, for those of you who don't have "Any Given Sunday"....Here's Robbie's instrumental cover of his own....."Out Of The Blue".


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Posted by:

Calvin

Yeah, I would have played plenty to see the original 4 Kinks. Personally I always thought the Band drifted in the early 70s because Pete was the only one who ever stood up to Ray and Ray would actually listen to, Mick, Dave and those who followed just did what Ray told them to do.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Kinks

Tim: Thank you for that link.....I hadn't heard.....Very sad news.


Entered at Fri Jun 25 20:26:42 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Have you heard the little piggy?

Bill M: And for our Band/film connection of the day -- Ned Beatty, who appeared in that memorable role in "Deliverance", was also in the cast of "Shooter", along with Levon.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Hark, is that a banjo I hear?

David P: Imagine stumbling out of the woods and seeing those guys looking down at you across the ditch!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: From the Deep

On my news headline home page..... a wooden ship, 112 years old, has just been found in Lake Michigan. I believe it was of Wisconson, Dave Zuck. Wondered if you had heard about it?

The cold fresh water has preserved it so well, even the cargo is still intact!


Entered at Fri Jun 25 18:37:42 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Crazy 'Bout An Automobile

See link above to Elliot Landy's photo of Hudson on the Hudson automobile with the rest of The Band in 1969.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Web: My link

Subject: Great Offend(0:There Is A Town In North Ontario

Hey Jeff ! I thought maybe we lost you to the insidious cult of Face Book or something, but I guess not. NG and I were thinking of you the other day when we learned that there's apparently quite the renascence of Brooklyn-based bands happening at the moment.

Likewise, there's apparently a huge hotbed of Blues presently forming just outside of North Bay, Ontario (reportedly at some guy's cottage). I'm sure Bill M. will back me in this, but you just know it's authentic Canadian blues when the guy's gut and belly button are sticking out over his belt and there's a honking, huge bottle of Canadian Club looming on the shelf in the background. NB


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: The Long Run

Bob: I think Strasburg is great but the hype around him is ridiculous. One signed baseball card is getting astronomical bids on Ebay right now (he apparently doesn't sign many autographs). If the money were going to a children's hospital, I wouldn't mind, but it's just one more example of why people hate American excess around the world. I lived in New York when Dwight Gooden rose and fell very quickly, so overall I'd say Mr. Strasburg was spectacular for that suana of a day, but I hope he can handle the hype and show stamina in the long run. The question will be if he can still shine like 68-year-old Carole King did the other night when he's an aging pitcher? That baseball card might be worth a buck ten years from now. Time will tell.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Stop dragging my car around ...

Peter V: I did a bit more research last night and learned that the book Robbie was looking for was Lou Bunwell's "The Impossibility of Auto Mechanics".


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: Kinks

and there goes my dream of seeing the original band reunite and perform.


Entered at Fri Jun 25 16:02:38 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Charlie: We're in the middle of a heat wave also down here in Georgia. There's more heat in the forecast for next week, as Strasburg is scheduled to pitch Monday night against the Braves & Tim Hudson, in the opener of a 3-game series here in Atlanta.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Charlie, glad to hear you enjoyed the show. What do you think of Strasburg so far? He sure seems like the real deal and a guy you could build a pitching staff around.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff, I think we're simultaneously drying up, while mellowing a little bit. I saw a birthday card the other day. It had a bunch of very elderly long haired people in a nursing home, and the nurse was saying to an ancient crusty old boy in a wheelchair, 'Come along now, Tony, it's time for your Van Morrison."


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

I kinda miss you guys, just a hair, so even though I've been thankfully more than occupied for some time now, when I remember to, I look in. Sometimes weeks go by,sometimes I look in two , three days in a row. I must say, I'm not surpised that the amount of arguing hasn't decreased in my absence, but I am rather proud of the fact that the quality of the arguments has certainly diminshed.

Nutjob, are you moving closer to Brooklyn soon? I been back & forth but planted solid the last couple weeks.Can't find your email address, send a smoke signal.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Double Header

My youngest brother recently coerced me into going to at a big venue James Taylor-Carole King in DC. The day of the show also turned out to be an odd late-afternoon weekday Washington Nationals' game featuring their young star pitcher Stephen Strasburg. So my brother bought a couple of cheap upper deck seats and we caught Strasburg AND the concert yesterday. The Nationals lost 1-0 in a record heat for June. The concert made up for the game, though. Carole King pretty much stole the show in my mind. An amazing, invigorated performance. I hadn't seen her since a Town Hall gig in NYC 25 years ago, but she hadn't lost a thing. It was wonderful to see Lee Sklar, Russ Kunkel and Danny Korchmar reunited with Mr. Taylor and Ms. King. Great show.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: American Dream

By the way, the other day I recall someone mentioning Albert Lee. This is an oldie.......a song I played on stage for years. This is Albert Lee, Rodney Crowell with Emmylou Harris.......one of the best copies.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Southern Hospitality??????

It's not ok to pay respect to the Queen of England???? .....Bullshit!


Entered at Thu Jun 24 20:10:25 CEST 2010 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro D.C.

Subject: ABB

Actually, the Allman Bros. Band were supposed to play at Crossroads this weekend. Now Derek Trucks & Susan Tedeschi will have the Bros, sans Gregg, play a few tunes during their set (at least that's what it says on E.C.'s Crossroads site. Anyone from here lucky enough to go? Pat??

J.F.


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Surely there's room for someone to suggest that the Allman Brothers Band do an in-concert CD titled "Live and Liver".


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: You might be on to something there, though it does tend to paint our narrator as having questionable ethics. He assures Chester that he's a peaceful man, but doesn't even mention the strong possibility of imminent explosion.

Speaking of Chester, the only one that I recall having encountered was my childhood barber. I don't suppose that NB would have ventured as far east as Butt's barbershop in Pickering Village, but it was the only one within miles of my place. Likely Neil Young's childhood barbershop too, for the same reason.


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Posted by:

David P

Yes Jan F a great match, as I was writing my post before seeing your's. And following Gregg Allman's liver transplant, now we know why the Allman Brothers Band hadn't scheduled a tour.


Entered at Thu Jun 24 19:40:52 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Hey Bulldog

Elsewhere in sports, former University of Georgia tennis player John Isner won the longest match in tennis history. He defeated Nicholas Mahut at Wimbledon 70-68 in a match that took 11 hours & 5 minutes, spanning three days, 980 points, with Isner's 112 aces to Mahut's 103. The fifth set alone lasted 8 hours & 11 minutes. Since they played on one of the side courts with no lights, it had been suspended due to darkness on both the previous two days.

And how about that big multi-player trade between the Thrashers and the Blackhawks.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Tennis, anyone?

David will be proud to know that University of Georgia grad John Isner won the longest Grand Slam Singles tennis match ever played, 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6,70-68 at Wimbledon. We were not amused, however, to see tennis players from the U.S. curtsey to the Queen.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled soccer games . . . .

JF


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A short stop at home........then......back at the wheel

Bill! It looks like you are telling me, Gary Comeau has retreated back east, and no longer lives out here? Well..... we got rid of one of those no good easterers then huh?

That Tiger Woods pun of yours would seem to imply....he works like a rabbit......jumping from hole to hole??.... and not on the links.

I,m tired........I just covered a few hundred miles of this coast. Have to unload a broken down log loader & some frieght. Load up another load, and do about another 400 miles...........I know, I know Lars.........later!


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Tim/soccer

Tim thanks for the review. Does anyone know when or if it will hit New York?

Soccer: Go USA!


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Posted by:

Simon

Peter, he'd fix it too, if he knew how.

Congratulations to the USA in the World Cup. Thoroughly deserved and great to watch. I honestly don't know how people can says it's a boring sport. The early games often are but the tournament is simmering nicely. Tremendous drama in the Slovakia v Italy game.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Bill, I think it isn't an offer of a free dog, but referring to the car as "a dog." Also, "Jack my dog" means jacking up the dog (i.e. jacking up the car) to examine the underside, or perhaps to change the wheel which had caught fire.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve is right - the psychic scars from having to scuffle and scrounge with no money and a broken-down heap for a car took many years to heal, and infected many of Robbie's early songs. Peter V quite correctly identifies "The Weight" as one of them, though I'm inclined to see it as based on something much more serious than an empty tank. The guy "pulled into" town, which is something you do in your own car (or perhaps motorcycle), but had to leave on foot, hoping to catch a lift on "the Cannonball". At any rate, the broken and abandoned car was obviously such a piece of junk that it wasn't worth getting Hector's garage to try fixing it. (What a come-on: Free dog with every repair!)


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: new parts for old rockers

segue from "ain't in it for my health" (thanks, Tim): they installed an aftermarket liver in Gregg Allman's corpus yesterday. "Successful" is the adjective of choice.

"Hepatitis C" is not a snide reference to the former Mrs. Bono . . . .


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Auto Theory

This explains that outtake of “The Weight” with its first verse:

I pulled into Nazareth

Feelin’ ‘bout half past dead

I just need a place where a man can pump some lead

Hey, mister can you tell me, where I can fill my tank?

He just grinned and shook my hand,

and strolled into the bank.

Early interpretations (Marcus, Hoskyns) thought “pumping some lead” was about gunfighting, but apparently it’s obscure Ontarian slang for “leaded gas” which all gas was in those days.

According to the same theory “I Shall Be Released” is the first mention in song of the problems of clamping (or the “Denver boot”) and “This Wheel’s on Fire” is self-explanatory.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: The Band

Thanks for that link, Tim.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Variety Review of Levon Movie


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Posted by:

Steve

OK, boys, since Dixie is about Richard's car do we have to take a whole fresh look at the lyrics.

My new take on, In the winter of 65, we were hungry just barely alive, now appears to possibly refer to the Canadian winter coats, stolen baloney and white bread caper.

"Now,I don't mind choppin wood," fits nicely with the wood shedding lifestyle.

"Take what you need and leave the rest", possibly a reference to roughing up cigarette machines to get free smokes.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: British cars

Hillman's Mull model was pretty good on gas but boxy and hardly worth singing about. If I'm not mistaken the name was only used in the Scottish market; in England and Wales it was known as the Fulking.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks Bob W and Peter V

A really good show. An interesting addition to the show was a pipe band and the singing of Mull of Kintyre. As he said he had to do it in Scotland. Very moving in the dusk.

He also mentioned John and sang a song in his memory, only one of two songs I didn't know, the other being from the new album. Again, very moving.

He also talked about George, played 'Something' on George's ukele and told us how he had played it to George. This went into a beautiful rendition of 'Something' which brought the house down.

Go when it comes to America if it is near you.

Sometimes I think when I've been to a concert that it's ironic that of all the concerts I've seen, I never saw my favourite band.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: My old car froze up last night

It backs up the idea that there's an underlying concept running through Band songs. We just never thought it was about old cars.


Entered at Wed Jun 23 19:13:36 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Hot Rod Lincoln

Bill M: Did Richard drive a Lincoln? Reportedly, Levon recommended deleting a verse mentioning Lincoln, suggesting perhaps that he did have a hand in editing. :-)


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Posted by:

Steve

Are you calling for a name change: The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down To The Library or TNTDODDTTL to shorten it just a little.

Under paid for under wear. The Bangladesh gov't closed down the garment industry in that country after 200,000 workers led violent strikes last week for a tripling of their pay. Hard to believe but they make only $25 a month so we don't have to spend too much of our hard earned income on the clothes they produce.


Entered at Wed Jun 23 17:24:14 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Do you think it's an innate unwillingness to perpetuate the tragedy of child labour that causes the male of this species to tend to avoid shopping for clothes except in the most extreme circumstances? Reminds me of a stand-up comedian's story about working in the backroom of a thrift store, sorting suits and shirts and dead-guy underwear: "You know it's dead-guy underwear because no live guy would give his up."

The fact that Dixie's really about Richard's car throws a whole new light on the library story. Obviously Levon took Robbie there expecting him to do research in the automotive section, but Robbie for whatever reason got distracted by the Civil War section. Maybe a pretty girl was in that aisle? Anyway, it weakens Levon's claim to a writing credit, I'd say.


Entered at Wed Jun 23 16:58:17 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

No need to google when you can go directly to the Library itself. In this age of the internet, you can go green electronically for the journey there, without expending fossil fuel.


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Posted by:

Steve

David, you obviously are not following NB's lead on FACTS. Good work. I hoped by putting that out there someone would go google the facts. Thanks.

The more important question here is will this lead to a feud fight in the Library. I don't think there's much doubt, though, without Dixie on the album, Levon and J2Rs are still out in the parking lot of The Library.


Entered at Wed Jun 23 16:38:01 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: National Recording Registry

Just to get the facts straight -- the 1969 album "The Band" in its entirety has been added to the Library of Congress National Recording Registry (see link). The new 25 additions are listed in chronological order with the Brown Album at #20. In a strange twist of coincidence, The Staple Singers' 1968 album "Soul Folk In Action" (which includes their great cover of "The Weight") is #19 and Loretta Lynn's 1970 single "Coal Miner's Daughter" is #21.


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Posted by:

Steve

Hey, jh, Dixie made it into the Library Of Congress. Kinda funny, Levon drives J2Rs to research Dixie and now the song makes it into the Library.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Dunc, glad to know you got to see McCartney. Sounds like it was a good show.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: BEG, Bob's Your Father?

Peter, too bad your gov't is broke, that certainly eliminates you from hosting the world's modern day monarchs. As downtown Toronto is made into a fortress for the world's Top 20, CBC announced some more of the absurd numbers involved with this meeting of our rulers.

The 1.2 billion dollar cost becomes understandable when you consider the number of cops, soldiers, and other security groups involved in this show of strength. 20,000 security people will be in Toronto for the weekend.

Hard to believe each leader needs 1000 people to guarantee their safety. That number doesn't include the personal security squads each leader arrives with. How close are we to being right back to where we were before this little thing called democracy got off the ground? Government by the people for the people seems to have gone astray.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

World Cup 1990 England Song
New Order World In Motion


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bob Marley..."Football is freedom."
My late Dad was also a player in Europe. I wish I could have seen him play ball....


Entered at Wed Jun 23 12:48:59 CEST 2010 from 21cust43.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.43)

Posted by:

Steve

Not necessarily ,NB. The problem with signing two goalies with the talent necessary to be top quality starting goalies in the league is that every game you have a 4 or 5 million dollar player sitting on the bench. Better to spend that cash on a forward or defense man who plays every game.

There are also reasons that will get players to stay with your team for a contract price that is less than they can get else where.

Some players stay because they like living in the city, the chances of the team getting into the playoffs and having a chance at winning the Cup, the interest of the city's fans and the quality of the coaches and management.

This McChrystal fellow seems to be reading too many of his own press clippings. Todd, looks like he thinks his position should be one of those that you listed as part of the power sharing arrangement under your constitution. I guess Obama will be reminding him that he's only a hired gun.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Location: McCartney

I'll be away Sunday, Dunc. I still remember the 70s McCartney show with jugglers and acrobats as an opening act. He also had that instant charisma filling the hall the instant he walked on, which few performers can match. Having done three major Arts Festival-related shows in England & Wales for Paris 1919, I wouldn't be surprised to see John Cale appear in Scotland soon for another. Don't miss it he does. It doesn't get any better. It was right up there with SMiLE for rock band plus orchestra.

On ethical investments, a lot of pension funds in the UK give you a degree of choice and you can choose to tick the "Ethical" box. If you want to select actual stocks, the management fee would shoot up, so you have to trust their judgment. One I have gave boxes for "no armaments", "no child labour", "no GM foods", "no animal testing", "no environmentally unsound". You choose the categories you want. Interestingly, ethical funds do well after things like BP or revelations about labour supply chains, because those stocks fall, and they don't have them.

Apparently BP was dropped after the 2006 Alaska spill anyway as fitting in with strip mining as environmentally unsound. Reading a little about the basis is quite shocking. The only way they can be certain of "no child labour" is by excluding ALL clothes retail stores.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Doing the Right Thing

Good for you Deb. You may not think it makes a difference, but it does. Sometimes it's the little things that matter most.

On another note, I just found out earlier this evening that the wedding that I'll be photographing this weekend will be for a woman who spent more than $30 Million dollars buying real estate in the past several years. It's not often that I'm around that kind of money, but it should be interesting. I occasionally do weddings for another studio, and don't often meet the bride and groom until the wedding day. Coincidentally, the wedding will be on a privately owned island off the coast of the town that I grew up in from relatively humble beginnings. My Great Grandfather who immigrated from Finland was a farmer and stone mason in town. I went to Kindergarten and first grade in a four room schoolhouse just a stone's throw from where I'll be boarding the boat to get to the island. A friend of mine had a garage in that part of town and I still remember patching up my first car, a rusted out 1974 Chevy Nova, with a rivet gun and left-over aluminum panels from a dishwasher to try to get the car to pass inspection

I'm guessing that there will be a lot of wealthy folks there. I wonder if the thought of the oil spill will cross their minds as they enjoy the wedding day on a beautiful island surrounded by relatively clean water. I don't think that I'll bring it up as I'm just the hired help, and my job is to get them to smile, but I will be wondering.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Taking All La Glory Out Of "Les Glorieux"

Then one day the two young players the Habs received will reach their hoped-for potential and seek the bigger contracts they're entitled to, only to be likewise let go because of it (a la Halak). I sense a systemic problem here, Steve. No doubt you'll tell me I'm missing something in the equation. NB


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Peter

It was a great show, Peter. If you can get up on Sunday go. Massive videos at side of stage. In fact more cameramen than musicians. Fireworks at end.

Like the acclaimed Van shows with the good backing singers and the big band, a couple of years ago, I feel it was amongst the best concerts ever. Still seeing good things.

Did you see the Island story on Friday? You forget how hot King Crimson were.


Entered at Tue Jun 22 22:45:15 CEST 2010 from 21cust212.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.212)

Posted by:

Steve

Fight on, Deb!

I heard a disheartening interview with a bird ecologist from Oregon last night. He says that the sea birds that volunteers clean after they get oiled, like the ones in the Gulf, live an average of 6 days.

He said usually their livers are too severely damaged from the oil the birds swallow from the water and from preening themselves in an attempt to clean off the oil.

He said the oil companies know this, as do the people they hire to organize the volunteers. It's good PR for the oil companies so they keep up the charade.

Kevin, my son , Rob, who follows the inside info pretty closely says he's satisfied with the deal after checking further into the two young players the Habs got. Let's hope he's right.


Entered at Tue Jun 22 21:45:50 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279277511.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.57.199)

Posted by:

Kevin J

David P: I really appreciate your updates in this area of sound. It is not only nice to hear the differences but to to know why what we are hearing really is different.........forget when exactly but it must have been early 90's - whenever - it preceded my purchase of a CD player......At a friends place and he threw in a CD saying " ah you've got to hear this....CD's are just great man" Well, I listened and it sounded like shit......I ruined the poor guy's day,,,,,,,although all the problems with transferring became quite well known in later years....it certainly took a while for the general public and the industry to react.......

Deb: Good for you but a funny aside.............at a party years back I asked a guy what beer he was drinking....it was one that I was not familiar with at all......don't remember what it was but he said he had chosen it due to the country of origin never having had a serial killer to the best of his knowledge....as eccentric a reason as I had ever heard.....anyhow...I've been drinking Pilsner Urquell of late and short of the Czech Republic doing something dastardly to my family or the Montreal Canadiens - I shall continue to do so!

Oil: BP are the main sponsor of the London Olympics in 2012....Isn't this beautiful.........corruption collides.......

BEG: Thanks for the note on Iggy......but no I wasn't any where near the place....have family in town and trying to figure out what to do away from the city due to the G20 silliness.......how many times can one go to St. Jacobs.......ahh!!!!!!!!!

Steve: Forget the problems of the world......devote your considerable energies to getting Gauthier fired - will ya?


Entered at Tue Jun 22 21:16:27 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: MoFi SACDs

When the license period runs out for those limited edition MoFi SACDs several years from now, those discs will be commanding 3 or 4 times the current price.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

That's great work Deb - I deeply respect that kind of action!


Entered at Tue Jun 22 19:21:23 CEST 2010 from (216.226.180.3)

Posted by:

Deb

Brien, I've been out of town for several days so I'm referring to a post of yours way down the page. As a matter of fact, I did check the various fund options in my 401K and made some changes based on investments in BP, so yes, my "outrage does run that deep." I've spent time on the Gulf Coast since I was a child and it's not theoretical to me. I don't have any illusions that this makes a difference to anyone but me, but I try to do what I can to make sure that I'm not being a hypocrite about the situation.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Big Pink SACD

£53 on amazon.co.uk, a mere $78.67! It's only $29 on amazon.com, but expediated postage is $35.


Entered at Tue Jun 22 17:16:11 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Low-End Weight

I've praised the recent Mobile Fidelity hybrid-SACD/CD reissues from The Band's catalog here. In the July issue of STEREOPHILE magazine, Michael Fremer used the MoFi reissue of "Music From Big Pink" as a reference disc to judge the bass presentation in reviewing a new high-end SACD player from Marantz. He noted the following point of interest:

"Even if you have an original LP pressing of The Band's 'Music From Big Pink', and even if you don't have an SACD player, MoFi's hybrid reissue is a must-have (SACD/CD, Capitol/Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab). Mastering engineer Bob Ludwig recently told me that the bass below 80hz was lopped off for the original LP pressing. When you hear this reissue with that low-end weight restored, you'll know it. (MoFi's 1980s vinyl reissue of 'Big Pink' also got the bass right.) The Pearl [Marantz SA-KI SACD/CD player] did a credible job of decoding the considerable bas energy on this disc."

Back in the day, it was common practice for the union engineers at Capitol, and at other labels, to roll-off the bass when cutting LPs in that era. Fortunately I have a copy of the aforementioned '80s MoFi "Big Pink" LP reissue, as well as the recent hybrid-SACD/CD reissue, and can attest to their great sound. Note that Mr. Fremer mentioned that the restored low-end bass can be heard on both the CD layer & the SACD layer on the MoFi reissue, which is a plus for those who have a standard CD player.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: now here's a thigh-slapper ...

... that is, the bit in BEG's link that says "Remember when Styx was groundbreaking?"

No? Neither do I.


Entered at Tue Jun 22 13:26:42 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400864.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.27.160)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

March 14, 2002
Memo to Paul McCartney:
There are Two Types
of Freedom, Sir
By Wayne Saunders

Two recent sporting spectaculars began with two rather different musical intros; both relate to the cherished concept known as freedom.

"It was hard to miss the contrast: "I will fight for the right to live in freedom," sang Sir Paul McCartney at the Super-Patriotic Bowl. Days later, Robbie Robertson crooned "This is Indian land," at the Olympic opening ceremonies, demonstrating that not all pop stars have adopted a patriotic persona, while reminding viewers that the freedom of indigenous peoples has been under attack for hundreds of years."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Top Ten Artists Suffering The Lindsey Buckingham Paradox


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: The Question is Peter...

Why would McCartney cover a Guns and Roses track? ;)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Actually "modest" was probably over-polite. Just after I posted, I remember that his 70s musicians complained about being underpaid.


Entered at Tue Jun 22 07:12:21 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: McCartney Live

Dunc, the last time I saw Paul live “Live & Let Die” was the new single. I’ve watched the more recent DVDs. He does like the small five piece band concept and rocking out. I’m mildly surprised he’s never tried the small orchestra, as on Brian Wilson’s “SMILE” tour or on John Cale’s Paris 1919 concerts. Back in the day, it was always said the later Beatles couldn’t tour because they couldn’t get the sound. They could now. Back then, classical musicians were slumming it on rock sessions, but both Wilson and Cale had enthusiastic young “small orchestras” who really were happy to rock. In both cases, an all female string section, and an all male horn section.

I would guess that Cale certainly played at a loss (three concerts, London, Cardiff, Norwich, with long intervals betwen). Brian Wilson’s SMILE tour did smaller venues as well as big ones … I was lucky enough to see it in a 1200 seater. I would guess they’d have been delighted to break even. But with Sir Paul playing bigger venues, I reckon he could turn a profit. Venues like Hyde Park Open Air wouldn’t work with a small orchestra, of course.

Anyway, my hope for 2011 is seeing him go out with a band that size. They say that while Paul is a major contributor to charity, he's quite modest in personal expenditure, sending his kids to state schools etc. Maybe he just can't justify having twenty people along that he'd only use for about half the show.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Jim Weider

Tim- I think Weege was just yanking the interviewer's chain. They don't call him "Stretch" for nothing.

Hey! Today is the longest day of the year, or the first day of summer, summer solstice. Enjoy the late evening light as it fades into darkness and fireflies.


Entered at Tue Jun 22 00:30:49 CEST 2010 from 21cust74.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.74)

Posted by:

Steve

Todd, I'll leave the speculation about the future state of the world's affairs but pick up on your talk of worthless paper money.

I heard a woman from Zimbabwe last year explaining how worthless the Zimbabwe dollar was at that time( it has since recovered slightly).

Inflation was so high that the bank was printing million dollar bills because prices were so high and rising even quicker.

You couldn't even buy a round trip bus ticket from one side of Harare to the other end of the city and back because the price would go up so much during the day the price you'd pay for the return trip depended on how soon during the day you came back.

OK now that you've got the idea here's the woman's story. People literally took bags of money to the stores because prices for inexpensive items were in the millions of dollars. The woman sent her son with a wheelbarrow of money to the store. On his way to the store two teenagers with a knife robbed him. They took his wheelbarrow, dumped out the cash and left with the wheelbarrow.


Entered at Tue Jun 22 00:17:23 CEST 2010 from c-24-218-200-216.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (24.218.200.216)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: Funny quote from a Weider interview a few years back

Of course I had to run it by Peter V to make sure it was a joke. Weider was a relative latecomer to The Band (he was Robbie Robertson's replacement, starting in 1985). But this Telecaster master is still a legitimate veteran of one of the great combos of rock history, the ace musicians who once backed Dylan and were celebrated in the classic film "The Last Waltz" (1978). And he's got the inside dope. Go ahead. Ask him what "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" means. "It's really about [Band member] Richard Manuel's car," Weider says. "His car was named Dixie. It was an old Ford or whatever it was, and they just drove it into the ground and left it there." As for the song's Confederate imagery, which leads most listeners to think of it as some kind of Civil War lament, that was probably supplied ex post facto by Arkansas-born drummer-guitarist Levon Helm, Weider says.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Going Down Slow

Steve, when I mentioned us going down, I wasn't just referring to our economy or the environment. I was actually thinking about National Security and our potential inability to govern and/or defend ourselves and our neighbors. Once we no longer have that ability, all of North America will be ripe for the taking by the next superpower in waiting. It may not happen in our lifetimes, but it's a possibility. I hope that we can count on our allies for support when we need it.

Aside from that, there's also the possibility that anyone who can't grow or catch their own food is going to be screwed. Paper money will be more worthless than it is today.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: New Neil Young Book

There's a nice new hardcover Neil Young coffee table book published by a small Minnesota publisher at a really reasonable price. It's called "Neil Young: Long May You Run (The Illustrated Guide)." It's full of color photos including lots of great memorabilia and documentation. I wish the same folks would do a book about The Band--no feud foolishness, just the facts, m'aam, and lots of pictures (worth 1,000 words each).


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: McCartney set list

Firstly:Thanks Steve and David P. I'll seek out these books.

Had a great time at Paul McCartney's show last night. On stage for three hours. Only 5 musicians in the band. Here is set list. 1. Venus and Mars / Rockshow 2. Jet 3. All My Loving 4. Letting Go 5. Drive My Car 6. Highway 7. Let Me Roll It 8. The Long And Winding Road 9. Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five 10. Let ‘Em In 11. My Love 12. I've Just Seen A Face 13. And I Love Her 14. Blackbird 15. Here Today 16. Dance Tonight 17. Mrs Vandebilt 18. Eleanor Rigby 19. Something 20. Sing The Changes 21. Band On The Run 22. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da 23. Back In The USSR 24. I’ve Got A Feeling 25. Paperback Writer 26. A Day In The Life / Give Peace A Chance 27. Let It Be 28. Live And Let Die 29. Hey Jude Encore 30. Day Tripper 31. Lady Madonna 32. Get Back Second Encore 33. Yesterday 34. Mull Of Kintyre 35. Helter Skelter 36. Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band / The End


Entered at Mon Jun 21 21:12:54 CEST 2010 from 21cust31.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.31)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Just One More Thing

This morning I heard some interesting numbers in an interview with the former CEO of Petro Canada, Maurice Strong. Strong says the Canadian government gives oil companies 2 billion dollars a year in tax breaks for "research and exploration". He said world wide the total given by governments to the oil companies is around 500 billion annually.

That's an important number to keep in mind when anyone tries to make the point that solar and wind energy are just not competitive, financially, with fossil fuels.


Entered at Mon Jun 21 20:49:22 CEST 2010 from 21cust28.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.28)

Posted by:

Steve

Peter, if you put the oil execs in jail you'll have the regulators as well. They are the same people in the US.

BP also had a large spill in the Arctic in 2006 ( I think) right in the middle of their "Beyond Petroleum" phase. One environmental group in the US tried to trace the money BP invested in their journey from British Petroleum to Beyond Petroleum and most of what they could trace went to PR firms.

Bp did only what they had were forced to do ( and nobody really forced them to do much) when it came to cleaning up their act. When a problem was found at one installation they would only fix the problem at that one place and not their other plants. Sometimes they'd only correct a problem at one place in a plant even though the same problem existed elsewhere in the same installation.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: frisky on and off the course

Wouldn't Tiger Woods be the perfect link between Golf and Rabbit?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, but I'd be worried about having a car named "Rabbit" for fear it would keep trying to mount the one in front.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: blame Hefner

Rabbits rut; golfers putt.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Rabbits and Golf

I'd venture a guess that they did a study and found out that people in North America would think that Golf was slow and Rabbits are fast. No one wants to buy a slow car.. Having a Rabbit (as I did) Was much "peppier"

Dlew I also thank you for the Philharmonic link.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: As has been said before, those Iberians can be a tempermental lot. While the Spanish won't buy a car called No Va ("No Go"), the Portuguese have flocked in great numbers to a country called Ca Nada ("There, Nothing"). Go figure.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Andrew Sullivan in yesterday’s Sunday Times cites the appalling violations by BP, not over this one, but consistently, noting their 760 recent safety violations to Exxon’s one. Then he mentions the multiple deaths in the Texas explosion in 2005 and the Alaska leak in 2006, and opines that the senior executives should go to prison. Agreed. But then he points out that the official approval process for the problem rig took just TEN MINUTES. The conclusion is, yes, lock up the BP management. But also put all the US government regulators who conveniently let them get away with it in the cells with them.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Golf & rabbits

Rabbits are quite a problem on golf courses. I never understood why the Golf was called a Rabbit in the USA. The Rabbit is useless as a name for an international car as it's different in different languages, but why did they bother to change it from "Golf" for North America? Perhaps because next to a large American car of twenty years ago, people would think it was a golf cart.

Witness the problems General Motors (Vauxhall, Opel) had in calling a car the Nova (or No va, as it read in Spanish).


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: That's a good point. And why do they call it 'Golf', which is otherwise a fairly obscure Australian term for 'Rabbit'? Perhaps our resident Antipodean can help us ...

Speaking of, I too thank dlew for the philharmonic link. And you too, Joan, for the Fred Eaglesmith link. I wish he'd been given more time.

sadavid / Brien: I'm fine with driving costs down by 'efficiencies' so long as they aren't merely driven out of the system. Seems to me that the problem is one of accounting. We tend not to count externalities because they are by definition external to the system; I'd say we should be forced to expand the system that is subject to the accounting. That's a big component of most comprehensive environmental thinking, I believe, with the Bruntland report being a pretty good place to start.


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Posted by:

Steve

Todd, you could be right, it's the accepted wisdom. But actually as you're sinking or struggling to tread water we seem to be on a torrid economical rise. Now, ecologically we're joined at the hip to everyone on the planet, that's the big worry for me. The economy is created by us and as your gov't showed, when lacking money just make more. Deal with the complications later. The environment, well, not so simple.

But on a more important matter, why is the NFL and CFL game called football?

A foot is only in contact with the ball for about 3 or four seconds in a one hour game. Actually for most of the play kicking the ball is against the rules. I don't get it.

I think swapping soccer for football would suit the North American game. It's basically 60 minutes of SOCK IT TO THEM!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Peter V's mention of Ian Dury's "My Old Man" reminded me of a great, and tremendously moving, song of the same title by Nobby Clegg and the Civilians. Good to see that it's even on YouTube (see link), where it's described thusly: "Video of the 1979 punk-folk cult college radio hit by Nobby Clegg And The Civilians. (Songwriters / singers Nicholls and Vickers later went on to be head writers of The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson.)"

NB: Thanks for your post re the Debonaires (as I will continue to call them). I spent Saturday evening with an old friend who also drank at the Robin Hood, but only during the day. Amazingly enough, his gym teacher would take the class on bicycle rides that would end at the Robbie. Time for a quick drink, then return to school. Can you imagine anything like that happening in the 21st century?? The reason we got together on Saturday was to see Mike McKenna (Mainline, Ugly Ducklings, Luke and the Apostles, Whitey and the Roulettes) and Luke Gibson (Luke and the Apostles, Kensington Market) playing upstairs at the Black Swan. Downstairs was Dave Bingham, leader of the Ugly Ducklings.

Westcoaster: As a bit of a surprise, that friend brought along an even older friend, who now lives in a small town near Ottawa. A bit of talking then he asks if I know his musical buddy Garry Comeau, who now lives in the same town. (I don't, but I believe you do.) As you may know, back in the mid-'60s, Comeau was the lead guitarist in the Esquires; when he left his place was taken by a young Bruce Cockburn.

Band bit: When conversation turned to other Ottawa groups, the Five Man Electrical Band came up. The second friend mentioned having seen them at Cedarbrae Collegiate in the late '60s, and said they did a killer version of "The Weight".


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Dlewsional (from downunder)

That was classic ! Thanks. NB,


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

If that's true Steve, then our best days are behind us and our demise is on its way. Hopefully those in power will remember that it's supposed to be a government by the people.

Once we go down, our neighbors won't be far behind. Buckle up. Hail to the Chief I guess.....


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Posted by:

Steve

Todd, after 8 years of The Bush Boy and Cheney, I thought all three branches of gov't had been brought together under the title, President, forever. I guess you're back to the division of power again.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I've watched less of this World Cup than any for years. Apart from the dull football in the opening rounds, it's that angry mosquito drone. The opening rounds are predictably duller, as it's a league, not a winner take all, and the fear of losing leads the major teams to draws. Fun comes from the smaller teams. Italy, Germany, Spain, France, England … the big money leagues … are seriously underperforming. Personally, I couldn't stand in the middle of that noise for 90 minutes and I'm sure it affects performance.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: South African Vuvuzela Philharmonic angered by Soccer Games breaking out during concert

See link for more details...


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Soccer Noisemakers

I wondered what that awful and ominous sound was in the background of the soccer match running at my local Mexican restaurant. It made me think of Yoko Ono singing Ted Nugent's insipid "Cat Scratch Fever" during electric shock therapy. Torture. Give me a boring baseball game with some silly organ music in the background any day.

By the way: Washington is back in last place in the National League East, playing badly again. Everything is back to normal in DC.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Balance of Power

Steve, I said that Obama was elected to "ONE of the most powerful positions" because it's true. The United States is a Constitutional Republic with three branches of government. Executive (enforces the laws) Legislative (makes the laws) and Judicial (interprets the laws). As president, Obabma is the head of the executive branch. All three branches were intended to be equal to create a balance of power with checks and balances. We're not a monarchy yet, regardless of what the perception of us may be in other parts of the world. Always remember....."absolute power corrupts absolutely".....you heard it here first. That's your civics lesson for today. ;-)


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Vuvuzelas

I don't get all the hype. My dad brought me one back from the Yale Bowl back in the early 70's. The world just discovered them? They banned them from Yankee Stadium so I have nothing to worry about!


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Posted by:

Steve

NB, I still think the vuvuzelas should be handed out at golf tournaments, the TV crowd needs something to get worked up about when a "sporting event" its self doesn't provide it. If these boooorrrring FIFA matches were more exciting nobody would notice the African Killer Bee Buzz or at least it wouldn't be the sole topic of conversation surrounding the matches. Let's hope the next round steps up with some great play.

The Habs were afraid to go to salary arbitration with Halak after the playoff run he had.

They figured they'd have to pay so much they'd lose the cash they needed to sign Pleknac.

I'm just happy they've decided to make Price the man.

Any goalie that will charge to the side boards and body check an opposing forward then challenge him to drop the gloves for roughing up one of his teammates shows the kind of competitiveness I like in a goalie.

I still think they should have signed Halak and then waited for, No Not Me, to fold in Chicago next year. They tried to deal him to Chicago in the last week before they sent him to St. Louis but The Hawks are still are soaring with Cup Fever and not seeing clearly, YET.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Sign, Sign, Everywhere A Sign

Personally, I'd be against introducing those vulva-zulu African noisemaker gizmoes to televised PGA tour golf (or"league golf", as you would say Steve). With those things among the gallery, they'd need even more officials running around with those big QUIET signs that they presently hoist up into the air just before a player's about to shoot or putt.

Speaking of which, the event in Memphis recently put a nice spin on this practice. Their officials used big signs with a southern flavour- these read HUSH, Y'ALL ! (I'm not making this up !). NB

PS What's with the Habs trading Halak ?!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, BEG. "Slip Sliding Away" is also very poignant, "the boy as he lay sleeping" being Harper Simon … excellent album too.


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Posted by:

Steve

A Boy Named Lars-- Steve


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Father and Daughter...Paul Simon for Peter V once again.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Father and Son..."Cat" Stevens aka Yusuf Islam


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Posted by:

David P

And there' Randy Newman's bittersweet "So Long Dad", as performed by Harry Nilsson. The Beau Brummels also covered Mr. Newman's demented "Old Kentucky Home" on another one of their fine albums "Triangle". Ron Elliot of the Beau Brummels played guitar, along with Ry Cooder and Clarence White, on Randy Newman's "12 Songs". An excellent audiophile gold-CD version of this album was recently released by the Audio Fidelity label.


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Posted by:

Lars

"A Boy Named Sue"-- Shel Silverstein


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Posted by:

Peter V

My Old Man. Ian Dury & The Blockheads!


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Dad songs

My Old Man - Jerry Jeff Walker

My Father - Judy Collins


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Dance With My Father Again...Luther Vandross


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

My Father's Eyes...Eric Clapton


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Father Of Mine...Everclear


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Happy Father's Day to all.....mixed emotions for some of us. imagezulu just reminded me of this one by Mike & The Mechanics - The living Years.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bless You California

Cowboy is on there by Nilsson, but the version of "Snow" is the 1967 single by Claudine Longet (aka Mrs Andy Williams). The excellent sleeve notes mention the recordings by Harpers Bizarre, Liza Minelli, Johnny Mann and Nilsson. Liza Minelli gets on the new compilation with The Debutante's Ball. Another goodie is "Illinois" from The Everly Brothers "Roots" album (but everyone should have that anyway).

The title track, Bless You California, is by the Beau Brummels from their "Bradley's Barn" LP produced by Owen Bradley (for a tenuous Band link!).


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: When Harry Met Randy

Peter: That's good news for Newman fans, Jerry Seinfield not withstanding :-). For covers you can't beat Harry Nilsson's 1970 concept album "Nisson Sings Newman", featuring Mr. Newman himself on piano. The 30th anniversary CD reissue from Buddha/BMG added five bonus cuts, including the long lost "Snow" and four previously unreleased alternate takes. Dunc: Morris Levy was no doubt a major inspiration for the character Hesch in the Sopranos. He's also one of the all too real characters covered in Fredric Dannen's excellent book "Hit Men", which Billboard described as "a sobering, blunt and unusually well-observed depiction of the sometimes sordid inner workings of the music business." On another note, I've just finnished reading Peter Ames Carlin's candid bio "Paul McCartney: A Life", which paints a portrait of the complicated genius in stark new light.


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Posted by:

Steve

Todd, I've never heard anyone describe being President as ONE of the most powerful positions in the country before. Who else holds an equally or more powerful position?

I doubt things in Haiti are even back to the sad conditions they were in before the earthquake. Last I heard hundreds of thousands were still living under tarps and tents. That was about a month ago. Just because it's not in the news we get doesn't mean much.

There's an escalating war going on in the Caucuses near the region were the next winter Olympics are supposed to take place in Sochi, Russia. It won't become news worthy til it causes some problem for The Olympic Organizers.

Dunc, have a good time at the McCartney show. I know you'll be tempted to sing along, go for it! Sorry to hear about your brother's job.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Randy Newman fans should seek out "Bless you California" the second volume of cover versions of early Randy Newman Songs on the Ace label's Songwriters Series. The first compilation was "On Vine Street." Several of the songs were never recorded by Newman himself, and the breadth and quality of the writing are outstanding with lots I was unfamiliar with.

The new "Bo Diddley … Is A Songwriter" in the same cover version Ace Songwriter Series ends with Who Do You Love by Ronnie Hawkins and The Hawks.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Various

Working all the time just now and just caught up with posts, which I enjoyed.

I'm going to see Paul McCartney today, the first time I've seen a Beatle. The last time Paul was in Scotland was about 20 years ago and I had to work.

The press were poking fun at him because of the slower than expected uptake of tickets. The prices are expensive and this country is not in a confident place just now. Worries about redundancies - 350 newspaper printing jobs gone in my old city last week, pensions and BP, hatred of expense cheating politicians, 21 millionaires in the cabinet telling us to tighten OUR belts, higher taxes, our goods being made in China, my brother's job gone to Hungary, massive cuts coming in. When confidence goes, people don't spend. Steve is correct in that capitalism has to be regulated.

Tim, enjoyed the posts. Would like to read more.

David P. Enjoyed the post on Levy and was he the model for Tony's Jewish friend in the Sopranos. Is there a good book on Levy?


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Yes We Can?

dlew919, Thanks. Good to see you too. It's not so much much that Obama is getting the blame for the spill, It's that things are at the point where his administration is being held accountable for a lack of tangible action in regards to mitigation of the actual oil spill. It's not the accident...it's the aftermath. We elected Obama to one of the most powerful positions in this country.....a position that he willingly campaigned for while telling us that things were going to be different. With that position comes an awesome responsibility and accountability. It truly is the hot seat. You get the credit when things are good (regardless of whether credit is deserved or not) and you get the blame when things go bad. And regardless of how many problems are inherited (every administration inherits problems), at some point people don't care about how hard the job is or how unfair circumstances seem. People want solutions and leadership and results. They want to know that someone is minding the store. Giving BP a chance was and is a fair approach. But that approach is very clearly not working. I've heard that our friends in Norway, who are reportably experts in oil drilling related matters offered assistance in the Gulf, but have not been given the opportunity to help.

Steve, we probably agree in more was than not about the media's misplaced priorities, but that discussion won't clean up the oil. I've often felt that media is quite often part of the problem (not just in regards to the oil spill) The Monday morning quarterbacking should be saved for......well, Monday morning. I'm assumng that things in Earthquake ravaged Haitti must be going well. we never hear much about that any more.......

Perhaps I have strong opinions about this since I grew up in a shoreline community. At certain times during my youth in the 1970's I remember seeing signs posted that the shellfish could not be eaten at certain times due to conditions in the water. In college I did a documentary project on water pollution, and the negative effects industry can have on our environment. Fortunately we've been making much progress since the 1970's in cleaning up our waterways, and many rivers and streams that were heavily polluted years ago have come back to a healthier status. The Clean Water Act, which was signed into law by Richard Nixon in 1972, has been crucial to the improving health of our water ways. It's a true shame to see such a huge step backwards with this current crisis.

Joan, that's a good point about the franchise owners getting hurt by this. It truly must be a hardship for them. But for better or worse, that's the way the market works. However I feel worse for the residents of the Gulf......many of them BP employees themselves.

Happy Father's Day to all the Dads out there!


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Web: My link

Subject: Tull/Procol Harum/Chicago article for Pat B.

Pat, you may enjoy the link.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Eaglesmith on Letterman

Someone put this up on Facebook. For all you fans


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Boycotting BP

I don't really have a BP station near me, and I would probably have that desire to boycott if I did, but in truth you are only hurting the poor local guy who owns the franchise, There was an article in Newsday about how these poor franchisees are hurting. Its a difficult choice.

Lars, that was as always, lovely. I think I'll end my morning thinking about that and not BP for a little while.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Misc.

I went by a neighboring farm last night and the fragrant smell of hay was in the air. We're already on our second cutting and that's what happens when you have a beautiful, cool spring. Strawberries are in their prime and the raspberries are coming on.

I was up in Woodstock last week and I stopped by the cemetery. Rick and Eli's resting place looks well cared for (thanks to Cousin Paul) and two small Canadian flags mark their stones.

The geese are starting to moult and the corn is getting tall. The deer have their summer coats and the days are getting long. It's that time of year.


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Posted by:

bob w.

I wonder how the folks on the Gulf Coast feel about reports that Tony Hayward is attending a yachting event near the Isle of Wight today.

PR 101 - Failed


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band at the Fillmore East 1972.

Iggy Pop and The Stooges tonight at Yonge/Dundas Square @ 9:30. I would love to see him again but the crowds and this corner of town.......or maybe hang at Milestone's and watch from there? Maybe Kevin J?

Another freebie soon is Chaka Khan and Macy Gray as well.
Oh and Mavis Staples (paid venue) will be performing the night after Levon Helm Band and John Hiatt perform with Allen Toussaint's Band (last summer a photographer let me in without paying 'cause he saw me with my camera)....Betty Lavette is at a paid venue the same night as Levon so unfortunately I'll have to miss her once again!.......and Taj Mahal coming very soon too....Some or all of these shows will really be welcomed as I've had a gruelling work year. Now if only Robbie could put out his work real soon.... :-D

Out where the river broke
The blood wood and the desert oak
Holden wrecks and boiling diesels
Steam in forty five degrees
The time has come

To say fair's fair
To pay the rent
To pay our share

The time has come
A fact's a fact
It belongs to them
Let's give it back

How can we dance when our earth is turning
How do we sleep while our beds are burning
How can we dance when our earth is turning
How do we sleep while our beds are burning

Australia's Midnight Oil....Beds Are Burning


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

I confess that part of what drew me to The Band and their music was their image as backwoods, rural guys. They presented an alternative to slick, silly packaged music (though they were packaged by a big record company all the same). The appeal of that image still stands to this day, though--anti-corporate, self-sufficient and genuine. Let's hope the BP debacle will reawaken that desire in a new generation.

Spending some time in my mother's hometown in Southwest Virginia recently pleased me since I saw the century-old downtown has finally recovered from the Wal-Mart era. There are signs of rebellion against the Chinese-made (and often toxic) crap. Handmade and homemade is back among the enlightened. I spent some time in Austin this week and that city may be the heart of the movement. Let's hope it isn't too late for the planet.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Pat - Sorry but that is a lame excuse. So essentially you are telling me, that his team and himself did not know that they were cutting corners, that certain breaks were being taken advantage of. You are saying that after all the years that some groups have passionately clamored that something like this could occur and that drilling off the coast of anywhere in the US could be dangerous, that the O administration still didn't think it was worth taking a peak at. the same administration who favors strong regulations of the financial market ( I personally agree that some regs are needed now that they blew it for themselves), and also favors regulating health care, that on this particular topic, regulations and such was going to be given a pass because someone gave him their word?! Really - that's the excuse. Where do I send my realtor card because I have some beach front in Kansas I want to sell him -great views of the ocean.., I swear.


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Posted by:

Steve

Todd, for some reason the people who own big media think we need to know the most intimate details of such important things as Tiger Wood's extramarital adventures but the trivial matters of state need not be delved into in any degree.

It's essential to know what kind of puppy the First Family is thinking of adopting but not who's being given unrestricted access to the country's natural resources.

Hey NB, what do you think of introducing the vuvuzelas to televised golf tournaments. Can't hurt. If it works with golf maybe tennis next. What say you?


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Hey Todd! Hey Jtull!

Just saying hello to a couple of old friends...

One thing I don't understand is why somehow President Obama is getting the blame - it seems to me (not htere, of course) that his course of action wasn't horrid: he allowed the 'experts' to attempt to clean it up ... when they failed, he's trying other stuff...

I'm not sure the other side would do any better... no other ideas seem to have come through...

I certainly agree wih the British Press that blaming England is a bit stupid: after all, while it is British Petroleum, it's owned by the US!

Naturally, I could be wrong


Entered at Sat Jun 19 08:16:39 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

After the third time we got our credit card "cloned" at a gas station, the security team at MasterCard said everyone on the team only bought petrol from Tesco or Sainsburys supermarket chains. A it's cheaper, B their internal security prevents card cloning. I followed them.


Entered at Sat Jun 19 06:34:16 CEST 2010 from 69.177.251.79.adsl.snet.net (69.177.251.79)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Burning The Midnight Oil

David & Peter, Good point about the shared resources making it practically impossible to avoid any one particular company. In the city where I was born, there are many storage tanks in one area of the harbor representing many of the different brands. One tanker shows up and fills all of them. However I can still choose not to support a particular brand at the retail level. After the Exxon Valdez oil spill I boycotted Exxon for a good ten years. Once they and Mobil merged, it became harder to do. These days I usually try to buy Shell. They have higher ratings for a cleaner blend than many of their competitors and I find I actually get a few miles better per gallon. A small way of using less fuel.

Steve, I know that you want to blame the American people for being generally ignorant, but that doesn't clean up the mess. I'm still dismayed over our leadership's lackluster response to this. If you're cooking in the kitchen, and a pot is boiling over on the stove, and the doorbell rings, you have a choice. Answer the door or deal with the problem on the stove. I don't care if the Stove was made by George Bush, Bill Clinton made the pot, and Ronald Reagan turned the heat up too high and forgot to stir. I suppose that we're all to blame...at least until Steve puts solar panels on his tractor, and I convert my car to run on wind power.

Pat B, I think The administration can be given a pass for giving BP a chance to fix this....up to a point. But we're way past the point where they can simply say we believed them. At some point true leadership needs to take place. I wonder why the administration chose this time to take a hands off approach to industry...it may be a first....very curious timing and tragically misplaced priorities.

I really don't think that this is a partisan issue. The Gulf is trashed for Republicans, Democrats, Man, Beast, Fish and Fowl alike. Anyone trying to swim there is going to get slimed.

It just occurred to me that I'm burning precious energy and probably polluting a river somewhere in the world just by having my computer plugged into the wall and typing this drivel. So I think that I'll power down for a while and do my part.


Entered at Sat Jun 19 02:56:26 CEST 2010 from adsl-76-202-228-229.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net (76.202.228.229)

Posted by:

Pat B

Brien, the Obama administration made the revolting mistake of taking oil men at their word.

Interesting how the teabaggers have lined up behind BP. The phantom menace of creeping socialism causes much soiling of undies, but the Gulf of Mexico literally destroyed and we see tears for Big Oil. Strange.


Entered at Sat Jun 19 02:31:04 CEST 2010 from 21cust77.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.77)

Posted by:

Stev

Remember, these technical geniuses who can't plug a hole in the ocean, one that they made themselves, are going to engineer us through what global warming is bringing.

BP and Chevron are successfully lobbying our Neo Cons to do away with costly relief wells when they drill in the Arctic. They're offering to possibly drill them the year after the wells come into production.

People who've studied oil spills in the Arctic say spills there are impossible to clean up.

In the rest of the world a successful clean up gets 15 % of the oil.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 23:32:55 CEST 2010 from p5b2ae4b2.dip.t-dialin.net (91.42.228.178)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: North Korea

Already 4 players missing.... I guess only the keeper and the left back will return to N.Korea. They look KGB kind of guys (boxer noses, mean looking).


Entered at Fri Jun 18 23:06:47 CEST 2010 from (12.20.13.197)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: relief wells

Pat B - That is totally correct: it's most likely the leak won't be stopped for another 45-60 days when the well is done. But there's no guarantee that 1 relief well will do the job. As it stands now, if a 2nd well is required, it won't be done until October/November.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 23:05:37 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

So Pat - are you alluding that the Obama team wasn't aware of the situation in the Gulf and the inherent dangers. Could Obama have demanded or enacted tougher regulations on Gulf drilling - he did afterall bless further off-shore drilling. Truly it is the same as the old boss. For whatever great visions of hope and change the President promised, he never saw this one coming and he certainly didn't have anything against the way business was being done prior to.

As for moron one and the network that enables him, well, most times we know what they stand for..,


Entered at Fri Jun 18 22:59:37 CEST 2010 from pool-71-246-9-74.phlapa.fios.verizon.net (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Joe Barton should be dipped in that sludge and feathered. What a fucking disgrace.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 22:41:00 CEST 2010 from h-68-164-4-215.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.164.4.215)

Posted by:

Pat B

BP specifically did not have proper backup measures to deal with this. Two relief wells should have been dug at the same time as the main well--a typical procedure in other parts of the world. This was not done because of the anti-regulatory fetish of oil interests in the US. And the "new boss same as the old boss" line? Obama is demanding restitution while Joe Barton and the Fox lineup is apologizing to BP.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 22:06:08 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: I'm being redundant again

Brien: no, I didn't respect the context, and I don't know what his larger arguments are - but I agree 100% with that passage. At least part of 'the problem' has to do with redundancy (or lack of same). The internet e.g., was designed from the outset to work around dead nodes - no single point of failure is gonna bring down the 'net. To take the opposite case, consider outsourcing, 'concentrating on our core competencies,' and suchlike philosophies of business. Used to be every firm handled their own payroll with in-house accountants. If a firm's accountants screwed up, their employees didn't get paid. Grief for a few. Now payroll is routinely farmed out to specialist firms - it's vastly more efficient. When there's a failure at Paychecks 'R' Us, grief for many.

Sure, they have back-ups, 'fail-safes' etc. - but perhaps more fragile than we think. Humans are inherently risk-prone - statistically, we overestimate future gains and underestimate risks.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 21:40:58 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

OR - it is possible that I read your post out of context from what you meant.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 21:37:20 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

sadavid - Where your point is correct, I think you took 'efficiency' out of the context in which he was talking about it in..., and granted, you are only reading a very small excerpt from a thought process that is much longer. It's a tremendously interesting book, regardless of whether one may or may not agree with the various premises. It tries to address how a lot of today's thinking is rooted in antiquated thoughts based on tradtions and strategies that worked in a world long gone by but in real time is not that long ago.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 21:13:00 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279277377.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.57.65)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

I was just listenning to Butch Hancock and Joe Ely in the car and thought that both would fit on that list that JQ put forward recently........above link is a really good one of Butch ( stick with it ) .....


Entered at Fri Jun 18 20:53:11 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: efficiency

"The more efficient these networks are, the faster they spread the dangers."

Overtly, covertly, or tacitly, we've been spoon-fed, force-fed and sold on efficiency since forever. Nothing wrong with efficiency, we all strive for efficiency, naturally. The most bang for the least buck. And mostly indistinguishable from the good ol' profit motive - the most profit for the least investment.

The profit motive is what keeps the wheels turning, that's how we got to the standard of living we enjoy today. It's morally neutral, profit doesn't kill people, people kill people. But in practice? An end in itself rather than a means to any greater good. Ultimately indistinguishable from plain ugly greed.

Efficiency means you drive out the costs. Always short term costs, because the calculations don't include your grandchildren's drinking water. With cybernauts on the trading floor, the planning horizon is a couple of minutes away.

Drive out the costs. Work 'em till they break, then plug in some more. Redundancy? Costs money. Overengineering? We'll never be competitive that way. We want it lighter, smaller, faster, quicker. Cheaper, always cheaper.

Risky? That's why we carry insurance - and we don't need much, our liability is limited. Privatize the benefits, socialize the risks.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 19:54:34 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Joan - they thought they had the tools. They try to prepare for disasters but too often fail because the disaster that occurs is not the one they prepare for - or the subtle twist of the disaster is something they did not account for.

I am reading this superb book on "thinking", it is called 'The Age of the Unthinkable' by Joshua Cooper Ramo - and in the line of the conversation from the other day, I thought I'd share this excerpt:

But we should bear this in mind: we are now tied to one another in ways we can't see, through webs of finance or disease or information, and - here's the dangerous paradox - the more closely we're bound, the less resilient we all become. Studies of food webs or trade networks, electrical systems and stock markets, find that as they become more densely linked they also become less resilient; networks, after all, propagate and even amplify disturbances. Worse, the more efficient these networks are, the faster they spread the dangers. Interconnections such as the ties between brokers and banks or between the health of every passenger on a long-distance airplane flight are vehicles for sharing risk, for triggering hysteresis. In a simple linear system, say one bank, one farm, you can map out the effects of a crisis as if you were plotting the route of falling domines. But in a networked society, lit up by revolutionary change, such easy prediction is fantasy. Drop a shock into a network and you get, the strategist Edward Smith has written, "the chain reaction that is set off when a single ping-pong ball is tossed onto a table covered with mouse traps upon which other ping-pong balls are balanced - an almost explosive reaction whose direction and end-state cannot be predicted."


Entered at Fri Jun 18 19:52:21 CEST 2010 from p5b2ae4b2.dip.t-dialin.net (91.42.228.178)

Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Subject: Serbia beats Germany (oops)

A few hours ago the world was ok here in Germany, a lot of people outside and a lot of noise in the streets. Men in cars constantly used their klaxon; little boys had fun with bulb horns, people where cheerful. Two hours later … Serbia beats Germany... the streets are empty, no one to be seen. I have never seen anything like it. Germany is in shock, people stay in their houses, mornin. The Germans missed missed a penalty too, this makes it heavy for our friends....prosit.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 19:49:24 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Just Another Brickwall

sadavid: The term refers to that annoying current trend in CD mastering that values LOUDNESS above all. The average volume of the recording is amplified & compressed to the maximum peak level. This results in distortion & clipping and the dynamic range is squashed.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 19:41:07 CEST 2010 from pool-71-246-9-74.phlapa.fios.verizon.net (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

sadavid, the first one was sadly mediocre. The quality of the songs did not nearly approach the talents involved. Hoping this one is better.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 19:31:09 CEST 2010 from pool-74-108-31-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BP and the government

One of the factors in the initial Government response, was the thought that BP had more knowledge and equipment than the Government had. Wrong! But the initial premise made sense. These people are "experts" and they have all the tools. They will do it right. Sadly that was not true.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 19:26:19 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Peter, David: thanks, gents. (Um, "brickwalled"?)


Entered at Fri Jun 18 18:31:36 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

I have a friend who works for one of the big gas pipeline companies, which is indepedent from the oil companies. Different brands of gas are all pumped through the same pipelines from their respective refineries to the various bulk distribution points around the country.

sadavid: I did get the first Cropper/Cavaliere collaboration. Upon initial listening, I thought it was a good concept, but the terrible brickwalled mastering kept me from enjoying repeated plays. I'm therefore hesitant to get the new one, without reading any reviews about the sound.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 18:27:02 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cropper / Cavaliere

"Nudge It Up A Notch" in 2009 had a track that made my "best of 2009" playlist, "If It Wasn't For Loving You." I also played "One of Those Days" a lot but otherwise the album kind of drifted past, expertly performed but the intrinsic quality of the songs not as good as the two mentioned. I'll try the new one.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 17:53:30 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: speaking of new releases . . .

I'm wondering if anyone's heard either the new Cropper / Cavaliere collaboration, or its predecessor. I'd assume excellence, yet there seems to be no buzz . . . .


Entered at Fri Jun 18 17:44:35 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Leave Your Sleep

Music. The Natalie Merchant 2 CD set “Leave Your Sleep” is certainly the best album I’ve bought in two or three years, and I’ll be very surprised if anyone makes a better one in 2010. I’d also award it “best packaged album” too. You need the two CD version, not the single CD. It’s eclectic in the extreme. She says she researched it over the first six years of her daughter’s life, in the poems, stories and songs she found to “delight and teach her.” The orchestrations are lush, and Merchant is writing modern fairy stories in song, but if it sounds kiddie from that, it’s not in the slightest.

Tracks to try on iTunes: Equestrienne, Topsyturvey World, It Makes A Change, The Peppery Man, The Janitor’s Boy. You get folk, sea shanties, reggae, trad jazz, swing, blues, soul, near-classical. You name it, she’s done it. Do try it. Do buy it. You won’t regret it.

On the other hand, the new Steve Miller is very short, and quite mundane bluesy covers, except for “Sweet Soul Vibe” (which is vintage Miller).


Entered at Fri Jun 18 17:34:12 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

David P is right about how gas is branded with additives. In the UK, it’s regional, so whichever pump you buy it from here in the central south, it’s refined at Esso (Exxon) at Fawley near Southampton. To get BP you go to the areas near their refineries, and then you get BP whatever it’s branded at the pump. Big Oil worked out years ago that transport savings were huge if they swapped refined petrol between themselves rather than driving it all around the country, so mostly the delivery trucks go to the nearest refinery where the additives mark it by brand. But look at the remnants of the Niger delta. I very much doubt there’s any difference either between BP, Shell and Exxon, except luck. Exxon didn’t rush over the Valdez disaster and are still arguing the toss. Don’t even mention Bhopal. At least they no longer have a “slightly ex-“ employee in the White House.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 17:28:34 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279277377.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.57.65)

Posted by:

Kevin J

True enough Rhythm Jimmy.

As to Obama being right about alternatives......John Stewart played a great little piece the other night which showed video clips of every US President dating back to Nixon saying exactly the same thing - word for word - as to the need to get off oil and find alternatives......


Entered at Fri Jun 18 17:20:32 CEST 2010 from 21cust17.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.17)

Posted by:

Steve

Todd, funny how no one in the US population seems to have been aware that this kind of disaster was possible. It's all a big surprise. Now why is that? Is no one interested in potential threats to the country from industry? Maybe a special squad could be detailed to keep track of the Industrial Environmental Terrorists. Shine a big search light on them. Terrorism is so sexy, the press and citizenry can't seem to get enough of it. No doubt FOX would be all over it.

The best investigative articles I've found from the US press so far are in Rolling Stone. Freedom of the press barons!


Entered at Fri Jun 18 17:13:52 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Todd: No matter where you go to fill up your tank, you could be getting at least some BP sourced gas. Despite the brand name on the pump, it's all a blend of different brands of gas. It's the specific additives pumped into the delivery truck that make each brand distinctive.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 16:58:51 CEST 2010 from mail1.lumberg.fr (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Web: My link

Subject: BP Solar

See link. I'm posting this for the irony, not to pat them on the back for it.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 16:04:36 CEST 2010 from 69.177.251.79.adsl.snet.net (69.177.251.79)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Blame

Steve, looking for blame and playing politics should not be the priority right now. Regardless of who's fault it is, the mess needs to be cleaned up......yesterday. I'm sure that the residents of the Gulf are more concerned with fixing the problem rather then who's fault it is. There will be time for recriminations later. but while the house is on fire, the number 1 priority should be saving lives and dousing the flames. That is the only type of leadership that we need at this moment. Commissions, Panels, theorizing, and regulations are secondary to the immediate problem.

When I was a kid and would get into squabbles with my brothers and sisters, my father would ultimately step in when it was obvious that things would not be resolved on their own. He would usually say "I don't care who started it, but I'm stopping it." Basic parenting and leadership, but that's what we need right now.

I'm off to work now, but need to fill up my gas tank first. It won't be with BP fuel. That's the least that I can do.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 15:57:59 CEST 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Gone - 2 - C - Into The Mystic

This ain't no place 2 B. You guys make sure you got that oil cleaned up, and all these problems solved by the time I get back........or there will be hell to pay!


Entered at Fri Jun 18 15:37:26 CEST 2010 from mail1.lumberg-automation.de (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Todd, I suspect one reason the government has not taken control of the oil spill from BP (aside for having no better abilities or the experience to handle it) is that once they did, every additional drop of leaked oil would be the governments responsibility, financially and otherwise. By keeping BP at least nominally in charge, they can be held accountable and the administration can keep the public outrage directed at them and not the government.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 14:59:47 CEST 2010 from c-59-101-38-144.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.38.144)

Posted by:

dlew 'deuce all score in gridiron' 919

Web: My link

Subject: Not taking sides, not doing anything

But posting this article on a Celtics fan bemoaning hte loss...


Entered at Fri Jun 18 14:18:10 CEST 2010 from 21cust249.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.249)

Posted by:

Steve

I think, perfect capitalism, is a direct quote from Clinton. I've heard it quoted several times by different sources. But I can't give you the exact source. The only investment I have, outside of the farm, is the Quebec Pension Plan and I have no choice about that and no idea who they're invested with.

Brien, you dodged the question," are there any things you won't invest in?" Just saying.

Peter in your game vs Empty Now, I strongly suggesting duct taping Calamity and Greenie together and chucking them both into the goal. Do you think these easy goals, Spain and England come to mind, might be part of the gambling influence on the sport?


Entered at Fri Jun 18 12:52:40 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Steve - thou of black and white and no gray - did I say I invested in BP and did I not offer a solution for those conflicted by that possible venture. Also, I don't think Bush or Clinton necessarily believe or have stated that "capitalism" is the perfect system, just a belief that it is the best one currently available.

For those so disgusted by BP's actions, if you are so offended by it, then I'd check your 401k holdings and make sure that your funds aren't holding BP or currently picking up shares at bargain basement prices. Or does the offensive nature not go quite that deep?


Entered at Fri Jun 18 12:23:03 CEST 2010 from 21cust233.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.233)

Posted by:

Steve

Todd, if you think about how this started you have to go back to Clinton and GWB who both believe that capitalism is a perfect system and all the more perfect if not subjected to gov't regulation.

Clinton started turning regulation of the industries over to people in those industries and GWB and Cheney finished the job. If you don't want governments getting in the way then this is the likely outcome.

It's hard to blame OBama on this one even for the response at the beginning.

BP had full control of the situation( thanks to total deregulation of the industry) and they were saying the spill was 1,000 barrels a day. Then within a week they were reporting it as 5,000 now we know it's probably about 60,000.

Those tea bag assholes should be yelling, Regulate, Regulate, Regulate, if they had any common sense but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Brien I'm astonished, is there anything that makes money you wouldn't invest in? Greed and profit at all costs is what has led to this.

Deregulation has brought a plane falling out of the sky in Buffalo, coal mining giants ruining the landscape and ecology in the southern US and oil companies turning the Gulf into an oily mess and these are just the tip of the iceberg.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 08:21:23 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

While this was being debated last night on TV, someone mentioned the Niger Delta, dead for years and basically an oil slick washing around lumps of tar, which is what happens when oil companies (mainly Exxon & Shell this time) are left to their own devices, or can bribe the regulators. In the Niger Delta they don't clean up afterwards either. See the link.

Where Obama is right is working towards far less dependence on oil.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 06:45:43 CEST 2010 from 69.177.251.79.adsl.snet.net (69.177.251.79)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: You can't get the toothpaste back in the tube

The thing that puzzles me the most about the oil spill is why there wasn't more of a sense of urgency right out of the gate. Obviously no one wanted this to happen, and it's not Obama's fault that it did. I respect the fact that he gave BP a chance to stop the bleeding, but there should have been more pressure placed on BP right from the beginning. BP should have been told that they had 7 days to fix the problem, and if they couldn't fix it, then we would step in and take control of the situation. Seven days is probably being too generous, but there should have been a deadline. It may sound cliche, but two phrases come to mind: "A stitch in time saves nine" and "When there's a will, there's a way". Neither of those seem to have been applied in this case. I'm generally in favor of the Gov't staying out of the way, but this is not a normal situation. One of our Government's primary responsibilities is to protect our shores from all threats, foreign and domestic. They've failed miserably in this case.

One of the rallying cries of the 2008 presidential campaign was "Yes We Can". If there was ever a time for that sentiment to become realized, that time is now. No..... strike that...the time for that was two months ago.

It sounds so simple, but when your roof is leaking, you need to do more than put buckets around the house to collect the water. You need to fix the hole. It seems like everyone understands this except for our administration. The politics and blame can always be sorted out later. I don't know if they just don't care, are grossly incompetent, or want this crisis to become worse in order to push an agenda. I don't think that any of those scenarios are the likely reasons, but the impotency of our leadership and inability to protect our citizens and our natural resources at this moment in time is remarkable.


Entered at Fri Jun 18 03:29:23 CEST 2010 from mail2.scisoc.org (199.86.26.15)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Life by multiple choice

Kevin, you need to include another alternative:

None of the above


Entered at Fri Jun 18 00:56:07 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279310789.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.187.197)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: What about.................

Life by multiple choice........Firing Squad.......Coldplay........Phil Collins......and the answer is: Firing Squad


Entered at Fri Jun 18 00:31:07 CEST 2010 from mobile-166-129-196-048.mycingular.net (166.129.196.48)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Death Penalty & Christian Blood Lust

It seems that most politically conservative Christians, and that includes Mormons, are fantastic hypocrites given their aggressive support of the death penalty. Not to mention their fear & hatred of desperate immigrants looking for a mere (mostly temporary) existence here. Is there any doubt what JC would have thought about those issues? Assholes & phony Christians I'd say.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 23:44:14 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: DeathTech

Norbert: apparently, the firing squad is more humane than the alternatives. There's an interesting link mid-article about the psychology of the shooters.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 23:33:08 CEST 2010 from p5b2ae113.dip.t-dialin.net (91.42.225.19)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Death by Multiple Choice: "I would like the firing squad, please."

Utah is scheduled to execute a convicted killer by firing squad on June 18. Under state law, Gardner, 49, was given the choice of being killed by lethal injection or shot by a five-man team of executioners firing from a set of matched rifles, a rarely used relic that harkens back to Utah's territorial history. After Reese said Gardner's avenues for appeal are exhausted and that he would sign the warrant, Gardner told the judge: "I would like the firing squad, please."


Entered at Thu Jun 17 23:26:53 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I would assume that all the way down the line, the bigger company squeezed the smaller companies' percentages, quite content with rapid reassurances that it would all be OK, in a long chain of buck passing (assisted along the way by passing a few bucks on the side to this or that person too). It's lack of imagination to look ahead and run those "But what if …?" scenarios, because those scenarios invariably imply you spend more money to protect against them. It's like the person who's a taildragger on high speed roads. They think "But I've never crashed yet." But they will.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 21:51:42 CEST 2010 from pool-71-169-135-211.burl.east.myfairpoint.net (71.169.135.211)

Posted by:

Claire Girard McManus

Location: Vt
Web: My link

Subject: Levon in Burlington Jazz Fest

I saw Levon and his band at the Flynn.He closed the Jazz Festival.It was a concert that outdid all concerts I have ever seen and I have seen many.Levon gave me the drumsticks he used, Levon,I hope you are back next year.You are number #1 and no one can top the performance you and the band did at the Flynn.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 21:02:43 CEST 2010 from vance012.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.57)

Posted by:

Northern Boy

Bill M. Quite the coup for Eaglesmith to get on Letterman. Thanks for the heads up. NG and I will tune in for sure, providing I don't fall asleep five minutes before he comes on like I did for Levon the last time he was on a talk show. Kind of embarrassing really when the tale end of Letterman is only 9:30 pm our time, what with us being westcoasters and all.

PS. We always knew the house band at the Robin Hood Inn in the early 70's as "The De-boners", but if you remember them as "The Debonairs" I suppose there's no harm in that. NB


Entered at Thu Jun 17 21:03:54 CEST 2010 from mail.lumberg.de (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Ray

Ray, I second what you said. I'll send you a FB request. I'm not blaming Obama for the oil leak, that would happen on anybody's watch. I do think his response has been less than reassuring. Ironically,I will be seeing Dweezil Zappa tonight for his Zappa Plays Zappa tour tonight. Maybe I should wave some dental floss around as a request.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 20:28:46 CEST 2010 from pool-74-108-31-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BP

Brien, Deb Ray etal.... I like making money as well as the next person, but I just couldn't profit off this ecological tragedy. I'd rather do without than get what I might be too dramatic about, "Blood (perhaps Oil Money"

About Halliburton, I don't think anyone is giving them a pass. As a matter of fact I think this spill has put them on a lot of new people's radar. Its just that BP was the ones condoning and encouraging the shoddy workmanship that has led us here.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 20:16:03 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: helping out the neighbourhood

I just thought this was cool . . . Rawlco Radio, a (private, I think) company that owns and operates a dozen or so radio stations in Saskatchewan, is spending $1M to nurture music in the province.

Each year for the next 4 years, 20 artists will be funded $10K each, "to professionally record and master a CD of their music."

Like a gov't arts grant, I guess, without the gov't.
I don't know if this sort of thing is common, but by gosh, it ought to be . . . .


Entered at Thu Jun 17 19:49:48 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Peter, in restructuring his debt, I believe Michael Jackson gave Sony the option to purchase half his share in Sony/ATV. This left him with 25%, with Sony also having the option to purchase the remaining 25% in the future at a specified price. However, the value of the catalog of songs has reportedly increased 60% in the last few years. As publishing royalties are paid for any use of the songs, including digital downloads, film use and in advertising, which have increased at a greater rate, offsetting the decline in record/CD sales.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 19:30:47 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I think unravelling where these multinationals are is a task even government hasn't managed. I thought Halliburton (wherever they're based) were virtually a branch of the US government. It all comes down to "Big Oil" and they work in concert.

True about Lisa Marie and Michael J, except that all those royalties got mortgaged to Sony, didn't they?


Entered at Thu Jun 17 19:10:41 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Deep, as in B(ig) P(ocket)

Fair or not, from a legal pespective it's advantageous to specifically target the potential defendant with the deepest pocket -- not as in the depth of water, but rather the depth of financial holdings. If early reports prove true, BP was also calling the shots and had the most to benefit financially from the huge oil reserve, which maybe exempt from royalty payments to the U.S. thanks to the Deep Water Royalty Relief Act. Of course, one would also go after the subcontractor parties for any alleged proportionate liability. Another complication is that at least two of the parties apparently have a lot of their assets based, like the drilling platform, well offshore (pun intended). This is just speculation on my part and I really don't have anything else to add to the debate.

Deep pocket tie-in to the music discussion: Elvis' daughter Lisa Marie was once married to Michael Jackson. If they'd remained married until his death, imagine the potential wealth she'd now receive from both her father's and MJ's publishing royalties.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 18:35:10 CEST 2010 from h-68-164-4-215.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.164.4.215)

Posted by:

Pat B

Peter, Transocean is a Swiss company and Halliburton relocated to Dubai. BP is obviously a huge multinational run by a Swedish CEO, but its point men at the beginning of this catastrophe were British and they said some really stupid things.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 18:22:33 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: living in a box ...

Speaking of moving to Montana, don't get your hopes up: dental floss is really hard to grow, as Frank Zappa discovered. Frank was right, though, is seeing the brain as the ugliest part of the body.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 18:13:31 CEST 2010 from (129.237.251.24)

Posted by:

ray pence

JTull Fan

Brien, regarding your last post and the NJ pension funds, I think what it means is short of living in a cardboard box in Montana, the world and everybody in it are more inter-related than we sometimes care to admit.

=======================================================

RP Absolutely true and very well said. Globalization is our reality, for better or worse.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 18:10:36 CEST 2010 from (129.237.251.24)

Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland, lawrence KS

Subject: The Catastrophe, President Obama, and BP

I've noticed things taking one of their occasional political turns here and I don't intend to stoke that, other than to say that Brien and I have great conversations on FB from (somewhat) opposite ends of the political spectrum and I benefit from our dialogues.

I'll be immodest and say here there should be more people like Brien and me in that regard--we disagree but we do so civilly and we listen to each other. The screaming and yelling that passes for political discourse in the US is destructive and wrong. I'm not saying that everything has to be Miss Manners, but for the sake of our many societies and our one planet, let's do and talk better.

The Gulf of Mexico catastrophe is a catastrophe. That part is simple. The rest of it gets very complicated and Brien's and others' points about BP get at some of the important complications.

My confidence in and respect for President Obama have never been higher. I am glad I volunteered for his campaign and voted for him. I just had to--well, just wanted--to put that out there, but I respect JTull Fan's opinion, too.

I invite fellow GBers to join me off list, or on FB, to discuss politics and other topics about life from time to time. As an American Studies teacher this kind of dialogue is part of my job, which goes on outside the classroom, and hopefully makes me sharper.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 17:58:58 CEST 2010 from mail1.lumberg.info (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Brien, regarding your last post and the NJ pension funds, I think what it means is short of living in a cardboard box in Montana, the world and everybody in it are more inter-related than we sometimes care to admit.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 17:42:14 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, a Swiss-North Korean final would pitch the two extremes of economic systems head on.That'd be interesting.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 17:41:05 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

I see that Fred Eaglesmith's gonna be on Letterman tomorrow. Pushing his new album, I guess. Anyone heard any of it?

There was a big Bruce Cockburn tribute show at Massey Hall last night - Cockburn himself, BARK, Barenaked Ladies et al. Houseband was BARK minus Wilson and Fearing. That same Linden-led near-BARK backed a CBC blues thing a few weeks ago, with Ken Pearson from Full Tilt Boogie occupying Richard Bell's old spot. I wonder if he did the Cockburn show too?


Entered at Thu Jun 17 17:30:29 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279310789.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.187.197)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks dlew........I didn't know about the Presley' team's aggressive dealings with songwriters.......too many years of the popular press talking about nothing but his ex-wife's and fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches - I guess!

On oil..............just finished watching the mini series "State of Play" - the series that the Cameron Crowe movie was based on.......a good take on the power that big oil has on all governments - not just the US one.

Chuck Berry is in the SWHOF but no Mercer award.......Phil Collins was a more urgent case given his age and all!


Entered at Thu Jun 17 17:20:26 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: BP PR

Thankfully for BP, Duke & Associates is on top of it . . . .


Entered at Thu Jun 17 17:03:32 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

JTull - NJ government pension program holds a significant amount of BP stock. It's going to affect the fund. You can't obviously lose BP without losing a lot of other things as well.., in the long run it doesn't benefit the greater whole.., But what questions does this raise about the power of these corporations that they are so important to the fabric of the worlds functioning - obviously we could survive its failure but at what cost to those it will affect who live miles away from any blame.

Peter - thanks for the "foreign" view points and insights. Halliburton is high on the list of a lot people's minds. It hasn't been forgotten. But you are correct that BP is shouldering the blame via the media.

It is cringe worthy buying BP stock but as I've advised to others - then take the hate, buy the stock, make the money and then give to your favorite organizations - take the evil and turn it too good.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 16:29:54 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Caught in a trap...

Early on Col. Parker set up an exclusive deal with Hill & Range publishing, who had an office in the Brill Building in NYC, where writers like Leiber & Stoller and Doc Pomus & Mort Shuman pitched their songs. All the songs that Elvis recorded had to come through them, with a separate entity, Elvis Presley Music, getting half the publishing royalties.

After Elvis' 1968 Comeback tv special revived his career, he went to American Sound Studio in Memphis to record with producer Chips Moman the following year. Mr. Moman recommended that Elvis record the song "Suspicious Minds", written by Mark James, who'd previously written the hit "Hooked On A Feeling" for B.J. Thomas. This marked the first time Elvis went outside the Hill & Range deal, over the objections of Col. Parker, who relented. Reportedly the Colonel, thinking the song wouldn't be a hit, thought he'd teach Elvis a lesson in failure. Things turned out different, as the song brought Elvis to the top of the charts again. In another twist of fate, the publishing rights to "Suspicious Minds" eventually ended up in the hands of Sony/ATV, now co-owned by Sony and the Michael Jackson Family Trust.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 16:18:22 CEST 2010 from mail1.lumberg.fr (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Obama

As the Who sang, 'Meet the New Boss; Same as the Old Boss.'


Entered at Thu Jun 17 15:42:58 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Obama is causing a lot of resentment in the UK and getting very negative press here, because of the stressing of BRITISH Petroleum which it hasn't been called for ten years. He is accused of trying to deflect the blame entirely on a "foreign" enemy, though it's about half US owned. Also the two contractors, Trans Oceanic and Halliburton operating the rig for BP are both American, and never, never get mentioned by Obama. In the latter case, their close links with the US government are said to be the reason they don't get mentioned.

Yes, I think BP have to pay up too, but Obama is getting hit by just about every British newspaper for beating this "the foreigners did it to us" drum, and the government has officially protested too.

A Louisiana fisherman interviewed on BBC Radio said very honestly that they all knew that one of the rigs was going to go one day, and it could just as easily have been any of them. He blamed the entire industry.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 15:30:17 CEST 2010 from mail1.lumberg-automation.de (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: BP

Brien, I've been reading lately just how much the British pension system depends upon BP. It is something like 1 out of every 6 British Pounds in the system comes from BP and the dividend cancellation is going to give the system a big hit. I hate BP for the incident in the Gulf and would love to liquidate them for it, but given those facts that would just harm many innocent pensioners.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 15:24:47 CEST 2010 from user-24-236-77-125.knology.net (24.236.77.125)

Posted by:

Deb

Brien, I understand that people have the right to make money any way that's legal, but I'm one of the ones it makes cringe. From Tony "I want my life back" Hayward on down, BP has pretty much behaved like they're not sorry for the damn near irreperable damage done; they're just sorry for the inconvenience it's caused them. My favorite summer places and the creatures who live there are slimed with oil, more of it's coming, and the Gulf Coast will be altered for generations. I know this sounds priggishly judgmental and I don't mean it that way -- anyone who can make money off this with a clear conscience, go ahead, by all means, but personally, I wouldn't want to.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 15:01:04 CEST 2010 from c-76-28-120-86.hsd1.ct.comcast.net (76.28.120.86)

Posted by:

Jean

Subject: Larry Gatlin

Larry Gatlin is guest hosting for IMUS this week (on Fox Business). So I used to listen to Larry, even in the pre-brothers days. Then I thought I should go find my Larry Gatlin cds and couldn't find them. Why? Because I don't have Larry Gatlin cds. I have Larry Gatlin LPs. It has been a long time... Larry had the Million Dollar Quartet on this morning and the guy playing Carl Perkins did a verse from 'Who Do You Love?'. Did he record it too?


Entered at Thu Jun 17 12:59:15 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

This will make some cringe for sure - but anyone looking to make some money might think of buying up some BP stock. It's a cash rich firm, and once this tragedy passes by (which it will) the stock will go up. It's already gone up 2 dollars since it's low in the high 29's. In three years (or less) it'll play in the 50's or 60's. Nice way to double your money if you are so inclined. By the way - I do believe BP should fork over every red cent to pay for everything that it did.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 12:55:12 CEST 2010 from 21cust77.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.77)

Posted by:

Steve

It was a remarkable concert, wasn't it, Brien.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 12:53:20 CEST 2010 from 21cust77.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.77)

Posted by:

Steve

Is Chuck Berry in this Hall Of Fame?

Peter are you getting yourself mentally prepared for a Switzerland/North Korean Final? Somebody should have tuned up my Subject Line yesterday that said ; The World Cup Runs On Bluegrass, to read, The World Cup Runs On Rye and Bluegrass.

It certainly will be ironic should BP sink into oblivion off the shores of the US. Somewhere, Mohammad Mossadegh, is smiling.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 12:35:20 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

See link for a 'not a great review' of the James Taylor/Carol King concert last night.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 12:02:18 CEST 2010 from c-59-101-38-144.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.38.144)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Tom Parker...

Peter: yep - Tom Parker was perhaps the worst manager of all time - because he was an illegal immigrant, Elvis never did an international tour, as Parker coudn't get a US passport. Also, instead of having a decent film career (Elvis got deserved good notices in King Creole and Jailhouse Rock), he did schlock which was cheap but ran a profit (Parker knocked back Elvis playing the part Kris Kristoffersen played in 'A Star is Born', for example).

Worse than the Sheffields, worse than the Kleins, worse than that paedophile who did the boy bands (perlman?)



Entered at Thu Jun 17 11:29:06 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Good for Dolly. The list grew. Tony Joe White declined to cut in Elvis, as did others around the same time. Earlier Doc Pomus and Leiber & Stoller commented that they lost interest in writing for Elvis for the same reason. Col. Parker really did screw up the list of songs Elvis could record.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 07:14:48 CEST 2010 from c-59-101-38-144.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.38.144)

Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Dolly wasn't Parton with her cash...

From the above link: ...

CMT: Is it true that Elvis also wanted to record "I Will Always Love You"?

Parton: I hesitated to tell it for a long time because I thought maybe people would not take it right because it was Elvis. But Elvis loved "I Will Always Love You," and he wanted to record it. I got the word that he was going to record it, and I was so excited. I told everybody I knew, "Elvis is going to record my song. You're not going to believe who's recording my song." It's like one of those things I told everybody. I thought it was a done deal because he don't just say he's going to do something. Anyway, he sent word that he loved it and he was doing it. They get to town and they call and they ask if I want to come to the session -- and, of course, I was going to go.

Then Colonel Tom [Parker, Presley's manager] gets on the phone and said, "You know, I really love this song," and I said, "You cannot imagine how excited I am about this. This is the greatest thing that's ever happened to me as a songwriter." He said, "Now you know we have a rule that Elvis don't record anything that we don't take half the publishing." And I was really quiet. I said, "Well, now it's already been a hit. I wrote it and I've already published it. And this is the stuff I'm leaving for my family when I'm dead and gone. That money goes in for stuff for my brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews, so I can't give up half the publishing." And he said, "Well then, we can't record it." I guess they thought since they already had it prepared and already had it ready, that I would do it.

I said, "I'm really sorry," and I cried all night. I mean, it was like the worst thing. You know, it's like, "Oh, my God ... Elvis Presley." And other people were saying, "You're nuts. It's Elvis Presley. I mean, hell, I'd give him all of it." I said, "I can't do that. Something in my heart says, 'Don't do that.'" And I just didn't do it, and they just didn't do it. But I always wondered what it would sound like. I know he'd kill it. Don't you? He would have killed it. But anyway, so he didn't. Then when Whitney [Houston's version] came out, I made enough money to buy Graceland. (laughs)


Entered at Thu Jun 17 06:21:54 CEST 2010 from adsl-75-5-66-89.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net (75.5.66.89)

Posted by:

Pat B

"I Will Always Love You" was written by Dolly for Dolly. She topped the country charts twice with it before Whitney Houston took it to the moon. I don't know the Elvis connection.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 04:50:33 CEST 2010 from s0106000d88ab8486.gv.shawcable.net (24.108.12.129)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Dlew919

Hey Dlew. That song was written by Willie Nelson which of course Dolly sang. Along with Willie and Whitney Huston. Not sure of the Elvis connection to the song besides the fact he sang it but, Tom Parker got 50% of everything Elvis did. Everything!


Entered at Thu Jun 17 03:43:26 CEST 2010 from c-59-101-38-144.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.38.144)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Kevin J: (contract) Ridin' with the King

Hey Kevin: Tom Parker had a fairly hefty cut of every song Elvis sang. I should look up a story about Dolly Parton knocking Elvis back for (I think) "I will always love you" (David P? Pat B? Peter V? Help out an old trooper?). She knocked it back because there was a 40% cut ot go to Elivs inc...



Entered at Thu Jun 17 00:52:13 CEST 2010 from mobile-166-129-095-139.mycingular.net (166.129.95.139)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bill Kirchen's Word to the Wise

I just picked this up; it's brand new. The guests include: Elvis C, Nick Lowe, Commander Cody, Paul carrack, Dan Hicks & Maria Muldaur. And a good thing here is that the guest singers take the lead & mostly solo. Track 2 is Merle Haggard's Shelly's Winter Love sung by Nick Lowe and it's so good I'm having trouble moving on past that track.


Entered at Thu Jun 17 00:08:06 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458171.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.104.59)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Songwriters Hall of Fame

I like the section that lists "Songwriters Friends" which are also inducted....Elvis Presley is one of them - I would guess so! Imagine the feeling getting a song into the hands of a Presley or a Celine Dion ( although the cheeky Celine and her nutty husband did make efforts at one point to "share" in the credits ....so maybe "friend" in her case would have would be of the John McCain variety .....you know......."'Hey there friend....thanks for the condo" .....).....anyhow some credits buy a couch....and some would buy a condo.......As to Phil Collins..... he now shares an honour for "outstanding songwriting" with Paul Simon and Holland/Dozier/Holland.......a bit like Dick Duff, Clark Gillies and Bob Pulford sharing a Hockey Hall of Fame with Bobby Orr, Rocket Richard and Mario Lemieux......Wonder if Peter Gabriel was part of sadavid's bitch session..............


Entered at Wed Jun 16 23:53:17 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458171.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.104.59)

Posted by:

Kevin J

The Johnny Mercer award also does NOT include Bob Dylan or Paul Mccartney or Ray Davies.....no need to worry about it....

ABOUT THE AWARD Goes to a writer or writers already inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame and judged by the Nominating Committee as having established a history of outstanding creative works. At one time, this Award went only to lyricists, but it has since been expanded to include composers. Occasionally, the Mercer Award will go to a collaborative team such as Jerry Bock and Sheldon Harnick; Burt Bacharach and Hal David; and Marilyn and Alan Bergman.


Entered at Wed Jun 16 23:08:25 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Awards

I jogged my memory to recall that Robbie received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the National Academy of Songwriters in 1997. In his acceptance speech he included the story about meeting Morris Levy for the first time with Ronnie Hawkins and learning an important lesson in the business end of songwriting credits. When Robbie asked "Who the hell is Morris Levy and what is his name doing on these songs that I wrote", Ronnie responded "Well, son, there are certain things in this business we just don't question and it's better for all concerned to just accept." Later, when Ronnie took Robbie to Roulette Records to introduce his young guitarist & songwriter to the head man, with alleged ties to organized crime, Levy remarked "Yeah, he's a cute kid. I bet you don't you don't know whether to hire him or f**k him."


Entered at Wed Jun 16 22:27:53 CEST 2010 from (129.237.222.1)

Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland, lawrence KS

Subject: Robbie in Songwriter Hall

My hunch would be there are 2 major obstacles for Robbie there--The Band never broke through to mainstream, sustained commercial success, and second, the controversy over credits. The controversy, as some say of news stories, has "legs," and has probably done damage to Robbie's image such that an award like that would have baggage that awards ceremonies/committees tend not to like. That's not to say that individual committee members disrespect Robbie or believe the charges, but the potential negative publicity could make for some nervousness.



Entered at Wed Jun 16 20:36:11 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Songwriters HoF

sadavid: I find it curious that Robbie hasn't been inducted yet, especially since Phil Ramone, who engineered "Rock of Ages" and is certainly familiar with The Band, is apparently one of the voters (see link).


Entered at Wed Jun 16 20:33:02 CEST 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I don't know???????

While reading Bill's post, re Jimmy Dean, Washington Sate, and way back then Kitty Wells etc reminded me. I forget whether I ever mentioned playing music just over the border there.

In Blaine, there is a crossroads. On 3 corners there are taverns, "The Cross Roads", "Bob's Tavern", and "Shantytown". I played in all those places one time or another.

In Shantytown, (it's a real cool old building) huge dance floor and a big stage......but! behind the stage is a band room. So gawd damn small, you got to go outside to change yer mind. First time I ever went in there, had to be late 70's, early 80's.......how in hell would I remember! I was sitting on a chair, by myself. I look up at the wall where names are scribbled all over. Suddenly my eyes come wide open. The names!!!!!!!

Ray Price, Buck Owens, Loretta Lynn, Merle Haggard......hell I don't even remember them all, but........I was feeling real impotent after that.


Entered at Wed Jun 16 20:11:52 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Once upon a time...

Forty-five years ago today Bob Dylan recorded "Like A Rolling Stone". A day earlier five takes were attempted, but take four of fifteen recorded on June 16th was chosen for release.


Entered at Wed Jun 16 20:11:37 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Halls of Infamy

Every 12 months or so we conduct a bit of a bitchfest re: who's been overlooked this time for induction into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. At the risk of beginning a new tradition . . . there was a bit in the paper today about the upcoming Songwriters Hall of Fame love-in: this year's recipient of the Hall's highest honour, the Johnny Mercer Award, will be none other than . . . Phil Collins.

So I check the web page, just to confirm . . . and find that JRR has never been inducted, let alone awarded. Doubleyou tee eff?

Steve: the bugs are moving north? I got about 20 bazillion mosquitos here, they can't move fast enough for my taste . . . .


Entered at Wed Jun 16 20:04:55 CEST 2010 from itac-ottawa.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.58.96)

Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Don't forget that the most dangerous of all animal species has established what appears to be a permanent foothold in Antarctica. One can only hope that any oil found there will be left alone.


Entered at Wed Jun 16 20:00:15 CEST 2010 from itac-ottawa.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.58.96)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

Subject: Jimmy Dean / the Robin Hood / etc.

Jimmy Dean's obit in the paper the other day prompted this post. Before hitting the big time, Dean had recorded for the DC label, a significant indie operation based in Washington DC. (The label name was acronymised after owners Davis and Claiborne.) No hits, but his backing band on at least one session was another DC band, Frank Motley and the Motley Crew, who moved the base of their operations to Toronto in 1955 - perhaps making them the first R&R / jump blues band in town. (An earlier version of the Motley Crew may also have backed Kitty Wells for some early DC recordings; certainly one of her songs was written by Crew-member Jimmy Crawford.)

In 1962 Jimmy Dean had a minor hit with his cover of "Steel Men" (about a tragic construction accident in Vancouver), a song that was written by Guyanese-Canadian Dave Martins and that was a local hit in 1961 by Martins' group, the Debonaires. The Debonaires continued into the early '70s, by which time they were the house band at the Robin Hood Inn in western Pickering - close to NB's home and perhaps the site of some his earliest licensed drinking. Remember last week when I posted about Nucleus being the Mandala on acid? Well, one of them spent a time in hospital as a result of a bad trip, and when he got out and was well enough to play again, he got a gig as bassist with those same Debonaires at the Robbie (ie., the local name for it).


Entered at Wed Jun 16 19:43:46 CEST 2010 from 21cust204.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.204)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: The World Cup Runs On Bluegrass

The grass the footballers are playing on was developed by Pickseed Of Canada from Manitoba . It's 85% Ryegrass and 15% Bluegrass.

Norm, animals have been moving for more than two decades , the first documented extinction that I'm aware of is the Golden Toad in 1987. 1976 is considered a magic gate year when the earth passed through a gate that it hasn't retreated back through and neither has the rise in temperature.

The toad had lived in the Monteverde Cloud Forest Preserve in Costa Rica. It literally disappeared in one year once the temperature of the air rose just a half degree forcing the misty cloud cover a couple of hundred feet further up the mountains leaving the toads in direct sunshine for too many consecutive days. They just dried up.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

I have Rick and Levon at BB McGoons on 4.3.1983, is that the same place? I'll try to find my source for that.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Hi Tim. I don't have any web skills except for finding links. In case you don't have this show on your site.....Levon and Rick performed at The Pearcy House (no longer) in Toronto in 1983....Unfortunately I don't remember the performance but I remember being there. My loss....


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Web: My link

Subject: Roger Waters' poem inspired by The Last Waltz

A new poem? A new Song? A plea to reunite the band?

In a press release recently announcing the relocation of Roger's show in Israel, Roger submitted a poem that he written inspired by watching The Bands Last Waltz. Its a wonderful piece, and to us its plain as day what it means, but we do not think for you:

"A few weeks ago I watched again Martin Scorsese's film which documented the last concert by The Band and I was inspired to write a few words i see fitting:"

The Last Waltz

I just want that thing
When voices join in harmony
And in that fleeting moment,
Meaning coalesces on the ear,
All dark, dissolving, clouds the alleyways no more
And fresh bread scent of home pervades the air

No sandal soles
In dust of broken homes
Nor callused toes peep bloody from the garment hem,
And all the big parades
And shock and awe
And swagger on the carrier decks and medals
Jangle helpless in the face of what is fair

I just want that thing
When friends draw in, some living some begone,
Some brittle, none forgotten
All beloved everyone.

Then dash the glass into the fire
Then well up unashamed my heart
Beyond the reach of fear
Of faith, blind, bigoted and drear

And then across the great divide
Rise men and women unafraid
To dash in loss their bracelets at the wall,
And hearing them
Hope holds me in its thrall.

I just want that thing
When empathy prevails
When man evolves beyond the crass
And reason comes of age
When dogma, cant, and witchcraft
All are banished to the past
When voices join in harmony at last. When voices join in harmony at last.

Roger Waters


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Posted by:

Todd

Tim, probably 1984....maybe 1985. I'm pretty sure that they opened for Charlie Daniels. They may have been unbilled, as I don't remember knowing they were going to be there until I saw them on stage. It was a really nice surprise for me to see them there. I don't have a ticket, because I got in with a press pass. I'm fuzzy on the year, because I went to that fair three years in a row.

Hey Norm, busy here, but hanging on....


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: Reunited Ban

Also at Union College in May 84 with two local band on bill.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: Reunited Band

Nothing solid yet. In 84 (spring summer) in NY (but outside the city) I have them in Queens College, Rochester twice, Liverpool, Oswego, I think Foreigner was big then, and sounds like an odd pair.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: To Answer

Ray; The youtube vid I was referring to was at the Beacon.

Hey Todd! How's things in Connetticut. I love fiddlers. Just bugging my old pal Lars.

Steve; I was using Port Hardy as just one little example. In the Gulf of Georgia there are thousands of California sea lions that never leave now. In Baynes Sound the problem they have created with oyster leases on the beaches is huge.

Around 1995 my youngest son & daughter & I were out in my speed boat at the bottom of Denman & Hornby Island where there is a large rock, or small island those animals inhabit. Amanda said to me gee Dad, how many do you think there are there? Well I took pictures, and when I developed them we counted over 500 sea lions on that rock alone. You see this is not something new.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Tim, CSN wasn't part of it. It was either Charlie Daniels, Joe Walsh, or Foreigner also on the bill. Most likely Charlie Daniels, and The Band played first. August 1984 is probably the most likely. Let me know if you come up with anything. Thanks again.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: The Band

Tim, I'm pretty sure it was the Cate Bros. I don't remember Weider being there. I do know that Richard played quite a bit of drums, and Rick played a lot of acoustic guitar during the show.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: 83-86 Band site

Tim, I have nothing to contribute re your project, but just wanted to chime in and say, sounds great & I look forward to seeing it! Would love to know more about that era, especially with regards to what songs Richard & Rick performed in those years other than the obvious selections. Thanks for your work on it so far.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: Reunited Band list

In July aug 83 they did few dates mostly Canada and west coast then off to Japan. July and Aug 84 they did a bunch of east coast shows, could have been in that time frame, I have some shows in general area but not Middletown. July-Aug 85 They spent most of that time opening for CSN (aug) in july I have one show in Tex as The Band, In June Rick and Richard were winding down on their Byrds tribute with some Danko, Butterfield, manuel dates in between. Probably 84 sounds most likely, especially if it was Cate Bros version of the Band. I'll keep searching. Tim


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Do you know if it was cate brothers or Weider version?


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Posted by:

Northwestcoaster

Subject: David's quote: "Reading on the balcony etc."

"There's a rose pressed inside a bible/ That she reads on the balcony/ She's sweet in slumber and I've got her number/ For the beginning of the century".

Funny thing is that NORBERT posted a long history in his own gb for many years ago which included these lines - slightly modified. I still remember it.


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Posted by:

David P

Whoops, I'm confused too -- the correct title is "How In The Hell Do You Spell Rhythum?", their sixth album released in 1980.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Get rhythm when you get the blues...

"How In The Hell Do You Spell Rhythm" is the title of the Amazing Rhythm Aces album that features their cover of "Wild Night". Also includes the great song "Big Ole Brew" and a fine cover of Otis Redding's "You Left The Water Running".

Rhythm Jimmy: The chorus from "Crazy Love" fits perfectly after the second verse in "Tupelo Honey". It features the same turnaround in A also used in "The Weight". I include an additional verse at the end of "Tupelo Honey" that Van Morrison added in one of his concerts.

"There's a rose pressed inside a bible
That she reads on the balcony
She's sweet in slumber and I've got her number
For the beginning of the century"


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Baseball & Hockey

Lars, funny how baseballs and glass seem to be magically attracted to each other. That's when the running practice comes in handy!

The thing about ice time being expensive is definitely true here in CT. Some guys I know who used to play in high school are adults now and were trying to put together an after work league for fun. The only time they could get at the rink that was reasonably affordable was 10:30 at night. That's a little late to be starting a hockey game when you've got to get up for work in the morning.....doesn't give the bumps and bruises much time to heal.


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Posted by:

Northwestcoaster

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Borrowing a line?

Thanks BILL M for your comment. - Who could believe that Paul Simon and Otis Redding, two nice guys, are able to borrow a line from more than five hundred old Finnish poem when even Robbie Robertson is not.


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Posted by:

Todd

Subject: Tim Again

The shows that I'm thinking of would have most likely have been in July or August of those years. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Tim's Project

Tim, that sounds like a great project that many of us would be interested in. I don't know anything about building that type of website, but please keep us posted about the progress.

Can I ask for a favor, can you tell me when The Band played at the Orange County Fair in Middletown, NY in the years 1983, 1984, and 1985 and who was also on the bill if you have that info readily available. Thanks much! Todd

Kevin J, thanks for the welcome back. It's been a crazy year with not as much posting time as I used to have. I do try to check in at least to read once a week.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Tim, it might be something you can discuss with Jan. Just a thought. Good luck.


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Posted by:

wewstcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Sadly

Firstly.........Thank you Jimmy, you are a gentleman. Now David, of course will set this straight. How in hell do you spell Rhythm? is either the name of a song, or album from The Amazing Rhythm Aces.

Most profoundly I have just "sadly" read the words of wisdom from Willie Nelson.........:

"I have out lived my pecker!"


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Westie--

Aint what you do, it's how you do it
Aint how you spell, it's how you say it
Aint what you been through, it's how you been through it


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Laugh hearty

Funniest part is I fooled myself again. The Aces spell it the same way you do Jimmy.........Rhythm.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Rhythm - & -Rythmn

Rhythm Jimmy; It may be that you don't know the joke. The "Amazing Rythmn Aces" spelled their name differently from the norm. Hence that joke came about many years ago. "How in hell do you spell Rythum- Rhythm - Rythmn anyways?????"


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: D. P. Van mix

David:

re: "One of my favorite Van songs to play is "Tupelo Honey". Just to make it more interesting, I insert the chorus from "Crazy Love" in the middle."

What a fabulous idea! I won't ask just how the hell you do this.

As for the spelling, many people have had trouble with my first name over the years, and also my last name. One gets used to it.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: creating a website

Ok, so for about 3-4 years Ive been gathering stuff on the Band specifically during the reunion years of 83-86 (The Richard Manuel era) My original goal was to try to make a historical list of all concerts performed by the band and its members, then I scaled it back to just those years. I have accumulated a ton of articles, ads, reviews, set lists, dates, venues (close to 200 shows, I think) during that time, But I have NO WEB skills. anyone recommend a easy to use site to post this stuff, preferable free site? as a references I would like it to look something like this poco site http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/deliverin/index.htm Click a year, see the shows, look at the articles etc. Thanks tim


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Memphis Joe.........Funny...the new Guitar Player arrived a few days ago and I literally just finished reading the profile/interview with Albert.......a good edition, by the way, as also a nice piece on Lenny Breau......Jack White is on the cover for those looking for it at the newsstand........


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The NEW Gulf War

Thank you Bob. I did see of Kevin Kostner's involvment on our local news a few days ago. It doesn't surprise me. When Kevin made the movie we discussed here a while back, "Open Range" with Robert Duvall he was very clear on his personal sensitivities.

The part of the DVD dealing with the making of the movie, (and by the way Kevin's weeping appendix he had to deal with), was very interesting. Kevin, of course after his making of Dances With Wolves showed more of his respect for the Alberta natives. He was very sensitive to their beliefs and wishes in the land use where they made that movie along the Bow River.

In his words, "The white man lives heavy on the land, while the natives live lightly, leaving the land as it was as much as possible." So that Mr Kostner's beliefs as to what goes on down there is no surprise.

The lack of respect for our earth becomes more over whelming every day. Whether English, Chinese, Iraqian or what ever breed causes this sort of total destruction, I'd like to toss the sons-a-bitches in that water and see them try and swin like those whales. Particularly when this oil is the biggest contributor on this planet to total gawd damn disrespect and greed. It really turns my stomach.

When I take my little grandsons out on my boat, and watch the wonder in their eyes when they watch the whales, and marvel at a simple star fish. All the things that are so quickly disappearing. It took thousands of years to create, and since even 1800 to now, the blink of an eye to destroy.

This gawd damn fossil fuel, one crossing of the Atlantic by a jet liner burns so much oxygen it is mind boggling to think what is happening now.


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Posted by:

Steve

Norm, these are probably the first of many Californians that will migrate north as their climate starts to become a little too hot for comfortable living.

The waters have warmed enough to make a difference and just like land mammals, birds an insects are slowly moving north to stay in their comfort zone , no doubt sea life will be moving too.

I was listening to an Inuit elder on the radio last year explaining that there are now insects, like bees and wasps in Northern Quebec that there are no Inuit names for because they've never seen them before and they've been there for about 10,000 years, give or take a 1,000.


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Posted by:

memphis joe

Location: between memphis and montreal

Subject: albert lee

just wanted to let all at the band land know that my best mate guitar god albert lee is playing bb kings in nyc sat night june 19 at 8 with his uk band hogans heroes...if you've never seen albert live , he is a revelation (i put together a little show some of you might know years ago in sackets harbor near the 1000 islands with levon, jimmy, albert and dave edmunds and all the guys, rando, chris, patty... that levon and albert still talk about) he's also doing a les paul tribute on monday and of course the crossroads fest with clapton later on...spread the word if you can...cheers, be well friends of the band, furthur on up the road! go habs go! from memphis joe


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Brasilia vs North Korea 2-1

With names like cheap cars and 30 hired Chinese “North Korean fans”, as a tinny red dot, emotionless waving little flags, in the 100.000 crowd, the whole world, but for the Koreans themselves, just saw a Korean hero born, books will be written, schools and stadiums will wear his name, hope he stays cool ....


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Over, Under, Upside Down

Ray: Albert King was also known to use some strange tunings over the years. His unorthodox style can be attributed to the fact that he was one of those left-handed guitarists who learned to play upside down by flipping over a right-handed guitar, but leaving the strings in reverse order.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Norm, check out this link. Help is on the way from an unlikely source.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Aces

You are welcome David. Some really cool pictures huh? Like the picture of Muscle Shoals studio.

If you let it run, the Cowboy song comes up next. Some great pictures of cowboy heros etc. In particular, James Arness, and a very young Gary Cooper, "THE COWBOY" for me.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: For Just a Moment...............

This morning as I watched my news, I was really on the verge of really being sick. Watching animals, birds, and killer whales wallowing in that oil in the gulf.

I expect my awareness is possibly more acute than most as I live with this wildlife every day. Last week .....coming out the pass inside Southgate Islands there was a raft of about 300 sea otters. That area is, (or was) abundant with dungeness crab & rock fish. Most people would not believe the damage those little buggers can do.

As I got a mile or so outside the islands into Queen Charlotte Strait I passed by two beautiful humpback whales. In Port Hardy a few years ago a California sea lion took up residence. Now there is about 20 there full time. They lay on an old float at the log booming ground. The noise they make (all night long) drives the people there crazy.

Hardy Bay has always been plentiful with crab, rock scallop, abalone, rock fish, steel head that go into the river there, sea run cutthroat and pink salmon. These big animals are wiping them out.

In the great scheme of conservation, (don't harm the sea lions) do you think the sea lions hold any meetings to try and find ways to conserve all the fish and shellfish?

As well as the distruction done in the Gulf, it displaces many species. They just find greener pastures as have these California sea lions.

So what the hell is the answer? I'm damn if I know, but what our governments are doing with fish farms, oil drilling etc sure in hell is not working. What are we doing to our planet really!


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Posted by:

Ray

Web: My link

In the case of Lars' band, The Bush Brothers, they don't have any turkeys in their set list... changed keys or not. But they know how to make the tunes work for them to fit their style. Maybe style is really the thing to consider most when changing arrangements. Roger/Fiddler calls the shots for keys and does a good job of it... all of their tunes work and, then again, they are pro's.

Into the Mystic - I thought that the LHB's version of Into the Mystic with Phoebe Snow was one of the best musical moments I've ever witnessed... no joke it was that good. I have included the youtube link to the performance from Asbury Park. It's not a great recording but it'll give you a glimpse of what they did with it. Brings back one hell of a fond memory... don't know if this is the version you were referring to, Westcoaster. Again, just a phone recording but Phoebe really sings it and Larry Campbell's mandolin is a nice touch. You had to be there to truly appreciate it.

Dave - Stevie Ray tuned down a half step for sure. I have a recording of him sitting in with Albert King and Stevie is tuned to standard pitch. They do a really nice version of Pride and Joy but it sounds "happier" than Stevies original recording which was a bit on the nasty/rude side (but in a good rockin' sort of way.) I think you are right about tuning down making things sound a bit darker.

Kevin - thanks for the kind words.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: How in the hell do you spell rhythum?

westcoaster: Thanks for the Amazing Rhythm Aces link. They also did a great cover of Van Morrison's "Wild Night".

One of my favorite Van songs to play is "Tupelo Honey". Just to make it more interesting, I insert the chorus from "Crazy Love" in the middle, as they both work together perfectly in that chord progression in A.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Should have been "Good to see you Ray"...I guess......and BEG - Agree on Lemieux..........


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Betty White

She is marvelous. She was the interview on last night's Daily Show. John Stewart told her she has Impeccable timing. Its true. She can say the most outrageous with this innocent "your Grandma" face. She is truly a treasure.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Sadly... that trend is starting to happen in Canada as well................Eric Lindros was a bit of a prototype of the upper-middle sort making an impression - and not a good one..........Rocket Richard, Howe, Beliveau, Orr, Potvin, Robinson, Gretzky, the Hull's and Esposito's, Lafleur, Bobby Clarke........all working class origins........but cities across Canada have stopped setting up and taking care of outside rinks and the costs of ice time in arena's and equipment has skyrocketed.....more and more this means the elites are participating and the types of people that built the game are dropping out.......Wish our govenment would spend more ( or to be more precise spend what they do wisely ) to assist communities and families in this area.........more on music while they are at it as well!

Good to Ray..........and Todd - welcome back.....


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo

Quite a few guitarists like to tune down a half-step to Eb, making things a little interesting for those accompanying them or trying to learn their licks. Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan did this to get a darker sound, with the strings easier to bend, due to the lessened tension. Other guitarists, who also sing, do it to lessen the stress on their voice when performing a great deal.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Todd: Apparently since 1994, lacrosse has been Canada’s national summer game while hockey is Canada’s national winter game if you can dig it.

Historically hockey players didn't have much schooling and didn't play with much equipment. Remember in school we also played broomball hockey in the gym with a broom and a ball. I have to admit as kids we played baseball a lot at recess time and after school. Fidel Castro digs baseball too....LOL....

Anyway, Bobby Orr as well as others were always conscious of this fact.....As a lot of us know....There's a huge difference between being schooled (High School Diploma, College, University track) and being educated...if you know what I mean. Most players learned to play on ponds and on the street. Thanks to "Terrible Ted" Lindsay (Canadian film about this time in hockey history) redeemed himself in my brown eyes by being the first player to organize National Hockey League's Player Association for pensions, etc.

How serious do we take our hockey here?...The same way you do with your baseball. Here's an example...The Boss was playing at the ACC and I was sitting in the audience and he had the nerve to say in front of a packed house that his New Jersey Devils were going to beat our Maple Leafs in Jersey. UHHHHHH....You didn't hear Bruuuuuce in the audience.......You heard........BOOOOOOOOOO! He quickly recanted with his boyish smile.....


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Music - in - anyway

Kickin' around tunes I like, brought me to this. You just gotta take a listen to this, as I know, a lot of you know what masters these guys were.

You are right about that Ray. That is why I've been taking the time to work on a song like "Into the Mystic". It isn't a song you can just ramble thru. But if you have the phrasing right, then people can fall in behind you and find a groove. Otherwise it can really be a mess. All you got to do is listen to some of the covers that are gawd awful.

Some one put a video of Levon's band playing it at the Beacon. Just videod from a cell phone I suspect. It if fucking horrible! Just a big bunch of noise, and not doing Levon and his band any justice at all, because I'm sure it didn't sound like that if you were there.

I've settled on playing that song in E as Colin James has. It's easy on my voice, and you can get a nice slap rythmn with room for the progressive licks.

For a taste of some really smooth music listen to this one I've put up.


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Posted by:

Steve

Funny about the working class hockey comment. At Providence College all the Canucks were from working class families as opposed to the American guys who mostly seemed to be from wealthy ( by our standards)families; the sons of doctors, dentists, and business execs. There were a couple that were from working class homes but the vast majority were not.

I thought at the time that it took a lot of cash to be involved in hockey in the US, at least to be good at it. Most of the guys had gone to private high schools or prep schools that specialized in one sport or another.


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Posted by:

Ray

P.S. good example of tunes that works in a changed keys, in my opinion, are the Beatles take on Twist and Shout and Long Tall Sally.

A not so good example - I have heard Brian Wilson perform Don't Worry Baby live four times in the past 10 years. The original Beach Boys recording was in E major ( note... that's the album version of DWB, the master was sped up on the single/45rpm version and sounds in F). I hate to say this but Brian sang it two steps lower in C major and it just didn't work well. I've since seen him Sing it in D major and Eb major and in both of those cases he really captured the spirit of the BB's original recording.

It's all just my two cents worth though.


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Posted by:

Ray

Subject: Key Signatures - Lars - Bush Bros

Larzinni - Yep the Bush Bros are all good guys and A LOT of fun to make music with. Sometimes rehearsing, rehearsing, and more rehearsing gets to be a real drag... walking in, setting up, and just playing music with a bunch of guys (Yourself and the Bush Bros) who know the tunes was a real pleasure. Rando being in on it was of course was too cool!!! Besides being a GREAT drummer and vocalist he has got to be one of the best guys EVER in the music biz. When I'm having a bad day and/or get stressed at work I usually pop in the LarsFest disc and my go to tunes are the Weight and It Takes A Lot To Laugh , It Takes A Train To Cry... cools me right out, always.

As for keys... I play traditional Celtic music too and have been at Irish/Scottish sessions where most fiddlers prefer the keys of G major and D major... Irish/scottish Trad is a blast to play but by the end of a 3 or 4 hour session I'm usually G'd and D'd to the max. The important thing is, however, that everyone has fun.

Played a gig this past weekend and practically every song was NOT in the recorded key... sometimes it's OK and sometimes not. If you change the key and have an arrangement that works well then it can be a very cool thing for sure... when I saw Phoebe Snow sing Into The Mystic with Levon a few years back in Asbury Park she OWNED that song and in that case it was cool. However, if your going into a situation like I did this past weekend as a fill in and wind up playing everything a 4th or 5th lower or higher to me it kind of seems kind of amateurish sometimes.

Matter of fact, Lars, the Bush Brothers changed keys on a couple of tunes but only a whole or half step and it worked out very well and suited them vocally. But that's a case of them knowing how to work the songs and not straying to far.

I guess this is all a long winded way of saying there are no definites... gotta figure out if it will work or not work?


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: fiddling around

Todd- I remember hitting tennis balls, hardballs, and even stones (which is hard on the bat) until I felt that I was pretty doggoned good. So I took a hard ball over to my Aunt Connie's house and I hit a few line drives off of her brick veneer, missing her picture window by about 2 inches. Then I started hitting fly balls over her roof, walking from front to back and standing confidently in front of her front and rear picture windows. Then for some reason the ball went on a low, deadly trajectory and her picture window burst into a thousand pieces. I decided not to retrieve my ball.

I've done vocals with Larry Packer on fiddle, although it's been a while. You gotta keep an eye on Pack because if you're band is in a bridge and you figure everybody has had their "say," Old Pack will collapse his arms in disgust if you start up the vocal when he is about to join in. One look from him and you know you should have held off.

The fiddler for the Bush Brothers IS an actual Bush Brother. And the two Bushes are in charge, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. But everybody in that band is a really wonderful person (just don't question them about "keys") and there is a lot of smiling and good comeraderie going on when they play. Especially if Rando is on drums. Ask Ray.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Real Sports

BEG, I'm sure you know that my comments about baseball being a "real sport" were meant to be be tongue in cheek. All the other ones are real sports too....it's just that baseball is the one that I enjoy the most, and is the one that I played and can relate to the most.

Interesting though, what you say about hockey being from working class roots, which I'm sure is probably true in Canada. But I always felt that modern day hockey has always been too expensive for many kids. It doesn't take much to get a ball game together. bat, ball, gloves....even less if you consider stick-ball. As a kid I used to practice with a stick that fell from a tree that I found in my yard and I would try to hit a tennis ball over the roof of my parent's house. Later on I played on organized teams both in rec. leagues and high school. I was never a great player, but I enjoyed the game and played a few different positions.....mostly left, centerfield, and third base. I don't think I ever hit more than a double....hitting off of a pitcher was a bit harder than the tennis ball in my backyard ;-) .....but I was able to steal second base fairly regularly, not so much because of my blazing speed, but because most catchers couldn't make consistently good throws to second base.

My high school had a hockey team, but my town apparently couldn't afford a rink, so the team had to practice in a neighboring town. It always seemed to me that price was a barrier to entry, unless you lived far enough North to have frozen ponds for enough of the winter. I've always wondered if that is the reason that hockey seems to be one of the less integrated sports than some of the others....it's just not the type of thing that you can put together in a backyard, side street or playground.

One of the fastest growing sports these days, at least in the Northeastern US, is Lacrosse, for both boys and girls.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Hittin' the Note

I wouldn't count the Allman Brothers Band out for good, as they're probably just taking another extended hiatus to concentrate on their side projects. Warren Haynes' Gov't Mule is touring this summer and the Derek Trucks Band is also touring along with his wife Susan Tedeschi. As they have young children, they try to balance their touring schedules around their family. Gregg Allman is back in relatively good health and has been playing with his own band. He also just announced that he will be releasing his first solo album in many years early next year, produced by T-Bone Burnett and featuring Dr. John.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

From a former hockey fanatic.....Yes, hockey is a real sport....but it's roots are working class....Yeah, the fights.....awful and yet we all got involved as our own anger could dissipate through Toronto's Tiger or whomever....Boxing has to be the most brutal....I can't even watch....In my opinion.....No one could skate and handle the puck from defense or anywhere on the ice like Bobby Orr. The "Great One" was the best at promoting the game south of us and worldwide. Michelle Lemieux I think was a more gifted player but due to health reasons and he had a different personality from Wayne.....didn't seem to want to embrace that role. When you watched Lemieux and Gretzy play.....Lemieux was the one who sparkled, dazzled....in my opinion. Another reason I don't dig Wayne......well if you followed The Leafs.....you'd know why. Right Fred? ;-D

Soccer/Football is also a real sport. Finally the US is getting into the groove as their team tied England. Yikes Peter! Anyway, Ghana coach Rajevac a native Serbian walked off the field seemingly not celebrating as his team beat Serbia.....so much for nationalism as the bottom dollar is the bottom dollar.

Oh and...a Canadian invented basketball while in the US as well......a real sport as well. Thank you Nash! He plays for all Canadians....LOL


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the Turtle Pond

Subject: different "sidemen"

Charlie Y, I also saw Willie Weeks on the '74 tour in George's band in Tulsa. After the initial set by the Shankar family, there was a brief intermission, and then George Harrison's band came blasting out with the instrumental, "Hari's On Tour". I was initially overwhelmed to see Bobby Keyes, Jim Price, Jim Gordon & Jim Keltner backing him. Then, I thought, "Who's that incredible guy on bass?". I later saw him in Joni Mitchell's band and heard him backing Ronnie Wood and Keith Richards at times. Todd, I echo your sentiments about "not expecting much" about the Conan clip. But then I was pleasantly surprised to see Mike Merritt and Jimmy Vivino in that lineup. Tried to identify the other guys, but didn't realize that was the Worm on drums. And westcoaster, I dug your Betty White remarks. I'll never forget my shock while watching the schlocky giant alligator movie, "Lake Placid". When the sherrif was zeroing in on Betty, as the one growing and feeding the behemoth gator, she addressed him as "Officer F*ckface".


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: The River City

Subject: Bobby Orr

Erm....Bobby Orr, not Bobbie Orr. Told you I know next to nuthin' about hockie (hockey)


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Conan 'The Weight'

Dexy, thanks for the link to Conan and company doing 'The Weight'. I wasn't expecting much, but was pleasantly surprised. Of course when you've got Mike Merritt, Scott Healy, and Jimmy Vivino helping you out, it's a pretty good start. And Vivino, La Bamba, and Pender on horns is pretty cool too! Looked like James Wormworth back there on drums. Always fun to see him with the boys.

Is hockey season over yet? All this (ice) hockey talk reminds me of the old joke about going to a fight and a hockey game breaks out. I don't know much about hockey, but I did get to see the Great One skate once at a Kings/Bruins game at the old Boston Garden some years ago. The amazing thing to me about his skating was the amount of ground he could cover while making it look effortless. Really graceful. If I had to compare him to another athlete in another sport....let's pick a real sport like baseball...the first name that comes to mind is Joe Dimaggio, another graceful player who made it look effortless.

Given my relative lack of knowledge about most things hockey, I can say with some certainly that there are only three players who belong at the very top: Gordie Howe, Bobbie Orr, and Wayne Gretzky. There are many other great players to be sure, but they are all second to those three.

We used to have a team in Hartford, CT called the Whalers and Gordie Howe played with them for a time late in his career. That team flew South and never came back. Thing haven't been quite the same since then.

My soon to be 12 year old daughter will be playing grass hockey this fall. I suppose I have a thing or two to learn before then.

I'm starting to think that Norm just doesn't like fiddle players! I wonder if Lars' fiddle playing friend is Larry Packer..... something tells me that he can play in whatever key he wants to, and it's probably just fine with everyone.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Austin (This Week)

Subject: Conan Does "The Weight" and Allman Brothers' End?

Dexy: Thanks for the word about Conan O'Brien and Jimmy Vivino doing "The Weight." That makes me wish I'd caught one of the shows from that tour.

Jan F: I think a LOT of people care if the Allman Brothers are finished. I saw a Gregg Allman solo show at the old State Theater in Falls Church, VA a few years ago and it was a great show with an excellent band (including the wonderful Willie Weeks on bass, a guy I'd last seen backing George Harrison in 1974!). My friends and I were right in front of the stage and it was less than a sellout crowd. The Allman Brothers always sell a lot more tickets than Gregg solo, so that would certainly be the end of a long, unique era.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: WESTCOASTER

You're right Norm. Fiddle players and Mandolin players always saying" I can't play with those guys, the fucking drummer is taking all the fills" HaHa Geez.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Fiddle Player????????????

LARS!!! Fuck the fiddle player! he's just trying to fiddle around with you......I've never heard such bull shit.

The singer has to be able to sing it comfortably or it ain't going to work, just as David has said.

Don't listen to that gawd damn Auster-alien kid! He's a criminal fer chris-sake! They all are down there. (A while back I made that stupid statement while Susie was near. Of course here daughter lives there, her husband is an Aussie.)

I had to run for my life. Do you know what it's like, pissing off a little 5'3" woman with a big knife......well.

Anyway......I got to tell you this one last "note" I'm sure you'll love. While I'm getting supper going, Susie is watching this Joy Behar, girl's show. She has that old 88 year old sex pot Betty White on there. I don't know what the conversation was, but all of a sudzn Betty says," My muffin hasn't had a cherry since 1939!" Gawd Damn!........I nearly fell over. That old gal will just never give up.


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Posted by:

Dexy

Web: My link

Subject: Conan - The Weight, 40 Days

Sorry if it's already been noted, but Conan O'Brien has been ending the shows on his recent tour with The Weight (a non-satirical version), with Jimmy Vivino sharing vocals. At times, he introduces it by saying, "Here's a song by a band so good, they were called...The Band." He also often does "40 Days," which he credits to Ronnie Hawkins and The Hawks.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Lock the key in....

Lars: why the fiddler? Is it an instrumental band? (no - right...). Is s/he limited to particular keys? Just wondering? /n In my bands, it's the singers... sometimes, for ease of playing, it's the key it was written in...

no capos, unless we want the tone a capo will give. (I ocassionally put a banjo capo on my mandolin)


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: The key

Norm & David- In the band that I sing in, the key is decided by the fiddle player. After he figures out what key he wants the song to be in, we vocalists have to adjust to the changes that are made in his behalf.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Key to it all!

Thank you David. I was doing exactly as you have suggested. The good old capo........move it up a step. My thought in asking the question was because some guitarists get irritated trying to play riffs in some keys. So going into a jam session, I was trying to think of making it easier. There is some good pickers around here tho'.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Into the Mystic

westcoaster: When in doubt, choose the key best suited for the vocalist. If you're the one who's singing, play around with it in different keys. Transposition is no big problem on the fly for guitarists thanks to that great tool, the capo.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, the FIFA headman explained today that you can't ban that plastic horn noise "because it's African music". Yikes!

Small correction, Sadavid, Harper doesn't govern like he has a majority, he's allowed to govern like he has a majority by the most confusing, bumbling, leader of The Liberal party since Stephane Dion.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: Ronnie is true rock n roll.........he borrows his lines but has a great and original spirit.....


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: More GB-pertinent was Ronnie Hawkins's repurposing of Best's first line in an interview with Pamela Wallin (I think it was) maybe 10 years ago: "I spent most of it on booze, drugs and women - and the rest of it I wasted."


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Posted by:

Kevin J

"I spent a lot of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" - George Best

"I used to go missing a lot - Miss Canada, Miss United Kingdom, Miss Germany" - George Best

I played soccer until about 12 and then it just got in the way of hockey school and learning to play guitar....that all said I do enjoy the World Cup and especially the European Cup every couple of years...........this guy John Helm who calls all the games - did I miss-hear him during the USA-England game or did he make some vaguely racist comment about England and black players?...................I have good friends in Holland that really care about this so it would be nice to see them do well.........and fans of Rock n Roll really do have to cheer for Argentina as Diego Maradona is the closest thing to a nutty rocker that the soccer/football world has........Something tells me that no 17 for the USA is going to score a few beauties before this is over......and Messi for Argentina is something special..........


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Pat B

It's a variation of hockey played outdoors on grass with a few extra players per team.

: )


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Posted by:

Pat B

What exactly is soccer?


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: I can see that I'm dealing with the prawn sandwich set...

It's the World Cup...you're not going to get the atmosphere you'd find at your average club football game (i.e. the choreographed chants, etc)...especially in this era of "modern football". As to the players complaining...bunch of sissies, or should I say gawd damn sissies : )


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: With teams I don't know at all, it doesn't really matter to me who's who specifically. And if I did know the team and the players, then I wouldn't need the announcer to tell me. On Saturday I sat down in a restaurant with the UK-US game on mute. I didn't even know which team was which. Because we seemed interested the staff turned the sound up, and while the announcer was good about saying that Smith had passed the ball to Jones, he didn't say anything that would help viewers identify teams - like the English are in white - and the fact that all the surnames were mostly British didn't help. Consequently it was at least 20 minutes before I could make a justifiable inference - maybe when the sliding guy confused the opposing goalie with second base and the announcer let slip who was who.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: I meant to add …

Steve is absolutely right. The crowd noise as it ebbs and flows is an essential part of the experience. These arseholes kill it completely with a monotonous drone. I'd ban the things.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Today's the first day I've bought 3 CDs off the "What's New?" section in HMV in a year or two. Natalie Merchant's "Leave Your Sleep" I heard in a shop and raced to buy it. Then I picked up Bettye Lavette's "Interpretations: The British Rock Songbook" and Steve Milliband's "Bingo" (Steve Miller Band, brother of Ed Milliband).

On the "vulvas" as these awful B flat horns are apparently called (presumably after the stupid c***s who play them) , "mute" is not an option. So you're watching the match Serbia v Ghana. You do not recognize any of the players. You can't see the numbers. The extra guidance of the commentator is essential. Any soccer fan knows that.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

A little side bet............what will lose Harper more votes....his handling of the G20 or having the imbeciles of Nickleback into 24 Sussex to play with him....if they ever get to a postage stamp - I might just flee this country!!!

Steve Miller in today's Toronto Sun ( Yes...Yes...a paper the boys in Nickleback would read but I do flip through it at lunch....something about the ease of reading a tabloid sports section at lunch rather than a broadsheet like the Globe&Mail.....) had this to say about doing an album of covers..."If I wrote new originals, you'd just go 'Ehh, not as good as Fly Like an Eagle'. That's just the nature of the game. Nobody wants to hear new originals - nobody." Dylan fans excepted....he might be right!


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Posted by:

sadavid

Bill M: gee, thanks!
Autocollant, j'espere . . . .


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joan: You and I think alike on some points - scary eh? Were you going to point out to sadavid that Bryan Adams has his own Canuckistani postage stamp - like Oscar, Anka, Lightfoot, Mitchell, Stompin' Tom, and unlike Robbie or any other Band guy?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Joe Cocker

I can't get the gawd damn page to work Kevin, but try listening to the one in Amsterdam. Much older than the one you found, (which for me is a little too ragaee sounding).

Anyway yeah, I figure that's as good as it gets.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Sports on mute

I find the best way to watch baseball is with the volume on "Mute". It gets rid of the aimless babbling of the sportscasters. Especially when there is no action on the field and they feel bound to entertain with endless stories of things no one cares about. I'm not blind, I can see who just hit the ball (or not). It is particularly vexing when they don't know what they are talking about.


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Posted by:

Jan Fowler

Location: metro D.C.

Have to agree Joe Cocker nailed the vocal but (from the mom of a tenor sax player) it's just not the same w/o the horns! Brother Gregg would have probably done better vocals than Warren Haynes on the ABB version.

I heard that the ABB performance at Crossroads might be "the end" for the Brothers unless Gregg decides to scare up another version of Gregg Allman and friends. Anyone know if this is true? Or, uh, maybe I should ask does anyone care?

JF


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Posted by:

Bill M

1) Re vuvuzelas: While I wouldn't want to sit next to one, that's not going to happen. So I don't see - or hear - the problem. As I've said before, the very best way to enjoy any sport on TV is with the sound on MUTE. All you miss, assuming you have eyes that work, is the play by play that you can see for yourself, and annoying superfluities (e.g., "The boys are trying hard tonight" and "The team won't like that call" and the like).

One thing that has to be said for the Australian team is that they were, apparently, willing to adopt Robert Green as their own and put him in goal - when no one else would touch the man.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: dispatches from the Ministry of Taste

Peter posted about the Queen's Birthday Honours to John Cale and Graham Nash - and noted that the new boss seems to have taste.
Which reminded me of the recent mini-frenzy here when our Emperor, Harper (merely a minority-gov't PM but rules as if by divine right) jammed with Bryan Adams at the Official Residence. Which had previously been graced with a visit from one of the principals of one-note wonders Nickelback.

GB 2 Canada nil.

It pains me to report that B. Adams shares with JRR Officership in the Order of Canada; and both are recipients of the Governor General's Performing Arts Awards (see [My link] for pics of JRR's Award award).


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Link to Joe Cocker doing Van's Into the Mystic.......If you can top this Norm - I 'll order 1000 copies of your cd.....


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Posted by:

Steve

Fred, I'm guessing by "more" noise you're not talking about diversity. The worst part about the noise is it seems to have no relationship to what is going on on the field.

It doesn't vary much in intensity as you might expect it to like at moments when the fans are trying to help a team rally late in a game if they need a goal.

It seems completely disconnected from the game and therefor just a distraction.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Into The Mystic

Jan; I watched a couple those Alman Bros vids doing that song. Can't like it at all, but then I'm not much of a fan of the Almans.

The best you'll probably ever see of that song, is an oldie of Joe Cocker in Amsterdam, and it is great.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC
Web: My link

Subject: Cleveland

Ari - loved one of the comments on the msg board you posted (not nice, but thought this GB would appreciate it): "Anyone who doesn't know the band after age 10 should be killed, and if they don't know that song and LIVE in f***ing Cleveland they should be killed and then burned in a dumpster"

I'm assuming he meant "buried in a dumpster."

Link above is "Into the Mystic" by the Allman Bros Band. What's great about this version? I was there . . . it was at Wanee 2010/Live Oak FL.



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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Into The Mystic

David! Some of my old co-horts are trying to get me up to a local jam session, (Thursday night thing). So I been working thru a few tunes I might feel like doing.

I played "Into the Mystic"....about 146 times now. It's an odd key that Van first did it in, so I use D. On youtube it's played in every gawd damn key imaginable. There is one pretty good vid of Colin James playing it in a little joint out here I used to play in Port Moody. He plays it in E.

Do you have any thoughts on this.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Vuvuzela - Again!

You're absolutely right David. In the headline that came up on my page here, the players said it is unbearable! The biggest reason that they want to ban the things.

It reminds one of playing a New Year gig, and about 15 minutes before midnight they hand out those stupid gawd damn noise makers you blow thru. All the drunken idiots got to start blowing on them constantly.....they should all be SHOT!!!!


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: It's not golf, nor Wimbledon...

It's The Beautiful Game...the more noise, the better. : )


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Gabriel's Ear Worm

As irritating as the sound is on the tv and radio World Cup broadcasts, one can only imagine how horrendous it must be for those in attendence. The sensible solution is to do what I often do when viewing sporting events -- turn the sound off and listen to your own custom soundtrack of music.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Live review: John Prine, Levon Helm @ Red Rocks Amphitheatre By CANDACE HORGAN and loads of photos from last summer.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: aussie aussie aussie oy oy oy

4 - 0 against germany. The useless biased sports press here actually admitted germany was the better team, but claimed cahill's send off was somehow unfair. The next thing we'll hear is that the coach, Pim Verbeek is useless and that the draw is weighted against weaker teams ... Of course it is you idiots! Its about finding the best team!!!


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Posted by:

Big John

Web: My link

R.I.P. Jimmy Dean, dead at 81


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Viva the vuvuzela!

They're great...they're rock'n'roll...in a footballing sense that is.


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Posted by:

Paddy

Love The Band! Great site, keep on jammin!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Vuvuzelas

I expect by now, perhaps some of you have seen they are considering a ban on this annoying thing.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I agree. That awful droning buzz has ruined the World Cup so far. i was trying to watch this afternoon, and after twenty minutes I just switched off rather than listen. I'll take the vital games with the sound off but it's a horrible noise.


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Posted by:

Steve

Anyway you say it Norbert, I'd like to meet " Saddam", take one of those fu&*ing things, turn it sideways and plant it where the sun don't shine.


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Posted by:

Ari

Web: My link

Subject: Phish

Really don't like Phish but Ben Pike came down to say "Phish opened their show at Blossom Music Center in Cuyahoga Falls, OH, on June 12th, 2010, with "Look Out Cleveland"."

Check the message board, somebody actually HATES The Band. Didn't know you were allowed to do that.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: The VUVUZELA

Back to the music now. Today I want point you at the VUVUZELA. “ A vuvuzela (English pronunciation: /vuːvuːˈzeɪlə/) , sometimes called a "lepatata" is a long blowing horn. The instrument requires some lip and lung strength to blow and emits a loud monotone (B♭). Well-known Kaizer Chiefs FC fan Freddie "Saddam" Maake claims to have invented the vuvuzela by adapting an aluminium version as early as 1965 from a bicycle horn after removing the black rubber to blow with his mouth. He later found it to be too short and joined a pipe to make it longer.”

Link above : welcome in the world of the VUVUZELA.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, is jh administering a good old time ball-busting as my Yankee relatives would call it? I've traced the ancestry of, Carey Price, one of my two available goalies who can stop bouncing balls and while his mother is a member of The Ulkatcho Nation ( she was chief of the Nation at one point), he does have strong English roots on his father's side possibly making him a candidate for a quick acceptance as a British citizen. If you hurry on your end we might get this done before the next match.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norbert

I haven't the vaguest ides That's amazing. I'm still figuring out the "coin behind the ear trick" :-)


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Old Blighty in the soccer WC yesterday

Good goalie. Precise defenders. Fast too, that guy on the right side, in particular. Not to mention your highly-efficient strikers and the well-organized team play. You'll go far this year, Peter, no doubt about it...


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Search & Rescue

I forgot to add my sister's web page to my last post. For many years Cyndie has been involved in search & rescue, and has been instrumental in many very difficult rescues.

Her web page may be quite interesting to some. Particularly her pictures.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Sharing

Hey Bonk; I'm forwarding you Lorne's letter. It's not that personal so that I'm happy to share..........N/J


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Grande Illusion, La (1937)

Time for The Great Illusion now, just fits between two soccer games.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: * La Grande Illusion I

Thanks lovely Joan. Joan please watch this Youtube (link) carefully and tell me how they did that.

*this video contains shocking footage


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norbert

Ass kicking indeed! Thanks that was very funny.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: NORM -WEST COAST TUG MAN

Well shit man. Send them to me. Glad I was able to help in hooking you two old friends up.


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Posted by:

Peter V

That was one of the worst goalkeeping displays ever from … what was his name? I've forgotten. Still, it doesn't matter. We'll never hear it ever again.

I knew it was a 1-1 draw at 40 minutes. The rest was arduous. Both teams picked up an inordinate number of yellow cards in a game which though dull, was neither violent nor dirty by either side. As one commentator said, that's what happens when the internationally two least popular countries play each other.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Still trying To Deal A Goaltender\keeper

Peter, as the GB GM of The Montreal Canadiens I feel it's only fair to offer you a shot at one of our two promising young goalkeepers.

When I pointed out during the just finished Stanley Cup Finals that at times both goalies seemed incapable of stopping a beach ball bouncing towards their goal I was exaggerating, if only slightly. But your man, Green, fit that bill today.

I'd do a straight one for one for that guy Rooney. We can give him a crash course in skating, have a few scars put on his mug, surgically, and try to teach him to drop "ice" from the name of the sport.

If we can get this accomplished before October I think he'd have a good shot at having him in the lineup for the season opener. The way he plays he looks like he'd enjoy the rough and tumble of NHL hockey.

Take heart in that the better team doesn't always win and good luck the rest of the way.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Brown eyed girl thanks!


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany, not that far from Berlin
Web: My link

OBAMA KICKS ASS IN BP RAP (link)

p.s. Van; there is no better, love the man.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Van

Yeah, that's it Brown Eyes. Thanks, I must have got some squigley wrong. I know what you're saying. It is annoying, and that girl does play with soul.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Was this the video Norm? The quality of the video is better than the one I posted and Van's singing is really good....except I don't like how he states the line just before he's going to sing. Peeeee Weeeeee Ellis is great. I don't think you can compare the violin of Toni Marcus with Ellis' sax....but.....Toni's playing makes me really feeeeel....Her playing on "Tupelo Honey" makes me want to smile and cry at the same time. In anycase, I would find it more difficult to carry on without Van's music......I'm so glad, I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad that he's still here for all of us.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Tupelo Honey

Good one Brown Eyes. But I particularly like this one, for Peewee Ellis sax solo.

Joan you are right, but watch this one, it is untouched so far.

Hey Bonk! If you're around, I came home to find a real nice e mail from Lorne Burns, along with some great gig images attached. Him playing with a bunch of the guys including Bill "Lonesome Mary" Henderson. Those guys are looking old, so I must be getting old. Still Lorne is looking good tho'.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BEG/ Van video

Thanks for posting that video. If Van's people are true to form, It won't be up very long. The only videos he has up usually have a big VM across them.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Meet the new laptop, same as the old laptop?!?

Angelina: a belated HI right back at ya!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I'm not an expert but just a huuuuge Van fan. I've seen him perform three times and really regret not catching his "Astral Weeks" gig but it was sooooo expensive here.
Anyway, Youtube has it back....Toni Marcus on violin with Van Morrison! It's my absolute favourite rendition of "Tupelo Honey" with video documentary footage.
Otherwise I don't really listen to the rest of the CD. I think "Moondance" is the most accessible for a new Van fan. "Astral Weeks" has always been a heavy recording for me.....but absolutely a brilliant masterpiece for Van. Right now I'm listening to "Into The Music"...."When The Healing Has Begun"....."Troubadours"....."Angeliouuuuu"......vintage Van. I have all of his recordings and said that I'd never sell any of them but his country CDS......maybe....maybe.

I'm trying to stay calm here as I just checked my reports and all the info has vanished.....Hoping it's just a cyber glitch....hoping.....I was almost finished as I only had 16 more summary comments to make. They're due on Monday.

Last weekend I was out of town for a wedding where I had to face someone that I had a feuuuuud with for many years. If I can face someone who wronged me many years ago....so can Robbie and Levon......Yes, the healing has begun. :-D


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: John Cale, Graham Nash

Breaking news! John Cale and Graham Nash both honoured with OBE's in today's Queen's Birthday Honours list. Weird to hear "John Cale of the Velvet Underground has been honoured …" (Well, he's done a lot more since and could have earned it as a singer, writer or as a producer).

As the goverment recommends it augurs well for the musical taste of this lot.


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Posted by:

joe J

Web: My link

I remember when Al Edge took me to task (and rightly so) for saying something like "'Astral Weeks' is so dated". It's certainly been back in the rotation ever since. 'Moondance' may be a little more accessable, OK, a lot more, 'Tupelo Honey' has given me much pleasure over the years. 'Irish Heartbeat' is a minor classic. I've yet to forgive Van for 'mailing it in' on his only visit to these shores.

Anyway I'm off to the USA, the good old USA, for a couple weeks of holidays. Check the link to see exactly where.


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Posted by:

Dave H

Location: Berkeley, CA (soon to be Boston, MA)

dlew: Perceptive article on Van M. Astral Weeks isn't a bad place to start; I'm one of those who rate it as a masterpiece, but if I had to recommend only one non-compilation album I'd go with the more conventionally accessible and equally fine Moondance, which (unlike the author) I'd place ahead of Tupelo Honey. In general, I'm a fan of everything through St. Dominic's Preview (His Band less than the others), with Into the Music, Beautiful Vision, and The Healing Game personal highlights of the later catalog. VM seldom makes bad albums but has put out plenty of unmemorable ones over the years, and some of them go in and out of print based on the status of his business arrangements.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Or as Mordecai Richler once famously told Barbara Frum when she breathlessly confronted him about something the nutty boulevardier Richard Holden had said....."Well Barbara, nothing said by Richard Holden after 2 in the afternoon should be taken seriously"


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Posted by:

Setve

Damn, I should save my funny stuff for later in the day. That should have read, we'll make the trade once San Andreas' GAA tops 3 on The Mike Richter Scale. Yuk, yuk yuk.


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Posted by:

Steve

Man From Somewhere, I'm now predicting that when Chicago fails to repeat as Stanley Cup Champions next year it will be said, " It was San Andreas' fault".

Pat, mentioning San Andreas in the same sentence as Dryden, Roy and to a lesser extent, Ward is a bit over the top.

Maybe saying, Ward, Dryden and Roy WON the Stanley Cup and that San Andreas was on the winning team would be more accurate. Dryden, Roy and Ward all won The Conn Smythe Trophy. If he'd put his name on that trophy he'd indeed deserve to be mentioned in that company on his own merit. Hextal's Conn Smythe win as a rookie on the losing team against The Oilers is more worthy of being put in that elite company. I need say no more.

Kevin, my Ass Manager and I came up with this scenario for The Habs this off season. We let Plekanec go unsigned since he's proving to be an exhibition season standout but a playoff dud and spend the 5 to 6 million dollar savings on resigning both Price and Halak.

I know, I know, tough to get both to agree to stay on the same team but you promise, Halak, the starting job, which he has earned, and give Price more than he'll get elsewhere.

The second part of our plan would see us trading one ( probably Halak)to Chicago in mid season for a goal scorer once San Andreas' GAA tops 3. The tough part will be to get Halak to sign without the No Trade Clause.

The pressure will be on The Hawks to repeat and we'll be there with the missing piece of the puzzle.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Northwestcoaster: Paul Simon borrowed that same line for the chorus of "The Boxer", I believe.


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Posted by:

Northwestcoaster

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Ice hockey and advanced Finnish and Otis Redding

LEINO is a common surname. No one thinks what it originally meant. For five hundred years ago it meant "sad, blue, unhappy", but in poetry only. I found following line which can be even older than five hundred years: "Lie lauluni _leino_ ollut/ lohduton lauluni _leino_." Funny thing is that this line says the same thing as OTIS REDDING: "I've been singing them sad sad songs/ Sad songs is all I know."

TIMONEN. I will recall that Norbert knows what these kinds of names are all about and is happy to explain :-)


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Posted by:

Ilk....errrr...Northwestcoaster

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Basic Finnish

Good to see so many Finnish names in gb. "Niemi" is a geographical term and "Antti" (Peter V, please notice two "t" and one "n", not Annti) is a Finnish form of Andrew or Andreas or whatever we will find in the history of languages. So you may call him for "Andy Foreland".


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Van Morrison

A beginners' guide: what do the experts think?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Just realized no one would have seen them do this on Yonge Street back in the day as it hadn't been written yet.....oh well would have been great to see them do something like it......no one ever got as close to the Chuck BITE the way Robbie did - wish he still got that beautifully violent ( on the instument ) now - perhaps on the new one he will..........


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

The Band's take on the song.....Makes me wish I could have seen these guys do it on Yonge street back in the day.......I was born 20 years too late! Oh and if you gaze at these pictures long enough the mystery of Richard's height only deepens.......


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Mercury Berry

The Mercury years are poorly represented on CD. I thought there was a recent CD though I didn't get it as I have the vinyl.

From the article on the site:

Original: single June 1967 (Mercury) and on the US album In Memphis, December 1967 then again on St Louis to Frisco in 1968 backed by the Steve Miller Band.

Mercury released Chuck Berry Medley in Britain in 1967 (Mercury) which contains the song. It mixes In Memphis and Live at the Fillmore and is missing from most discographies, though it’s the easiest of Berry’s Mercury albums to find secondhand in the UK.

It’s unusual for anyone to cover post-Chess Berry, but the words of Back to Memphis seemed an ideal starter for Band gigs and logically a retrospective like To Kingdom Come. Chuck Berry’s original version (unusually) sounds weak in comparison with its messy horns and a feeble guitar sound.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Back To Memphis

Ari: It's included on the Universal UK 2-CD import compilation "Reelin' & Rockin': The Very Best of Chuck Berry". I believe it was originally included on his quasi-live LP "Chuck Berry In Memphis", one of his later harder- to-find recordings on the Mercury label.


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Posted by:

Ari

Yes I spent time in Clarksdale, had a flat tire there. Where can I hear the full version of Chuck Berry's Back To Memphis?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Paat B: Congratulations. I suppose you'll now be able to leave the Civil War behind and turn to staging re-enactments of more recent battles - and still be on the winning side!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Knowing nothing of the ugly office politics, I'm just happy that Scotty can still lift his arms over his head. After all, he's been a fixture in the winner's circle since I was a little boy. He seemed like a really old guy then, making him about 112 now, eh?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Pat B: Niemi is just one more example of astute moves made by Dale Tallon - story goes he flew overseas and signed him before Detroit could close the deal.....his was not a Conn Smythe performace ( far from it ) as was Roy's, Dryden's and Ward's but certainly makes up for the mistake of signing Huet....Duncan Keith is now the best defencemen in the NHL...in my opinion.....I love Scotty Bowman but it was a bit hard to take seeing him with the Cup over his head while the man who built this team ( and a fantastic build job it was ) is deprived that opportunity all because of ugly office politics.


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Posted by:

David P

JQ: I think Nick Lowe's former Little Village cohort John Hiatt also fits in the category you mentioned.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Not Dark Yet

Here's a treat.................Robyn Hitchcock and John Paul Jones doing Bob Dylan......lovely take.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Well, another rookie goalie won the Stanley Cup, joining Roy, Dryden, and Cam Ward in the accomplishment--illustrious company indeed.

The odds of a 2 seed beating a 7 seed in six games are probably pretty good, but Brien made the call so he gets the kudos. Me, I can breathe again.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: those 4 songwriters

PV - N Lowe did have a turn as a pop star here too, but I think that part of his career was well over by the end of the 70's.

In mentioning those 4 guys I neglected to include an important differentiation from other writers, that being they are also terrifically emotive singers and in the case of N Lowe, a technically superb singer too.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jesus of Cool …

I know what you mean about songwriters, and Nick Lowe fits, but in Britain his chart success rate is slightly better than (say) The Band.

I Love The Sound of Breaking Glass was #7, and Cruel To Be Kind was #12. He deserved far more, I agree. I just looked it up and had remembered (wrongly) that Marie Provost was a hit. But it should have been.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: John Prine's "In Person & On Stage"

It's older performances and a new record & it's getting decent reviews; I'm not certain if it's been released yet though.

I think of J Prine in a group of songwriters that includes: Tom Waits, Nick Lowe and Greg Brown: guys that have never really had a hit record - at least not with them as the singer - but remain at the tip-top of great writers.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Where were you fify years ago, when calling for Mitch Miller to be banned would have made a difference?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

dlew: The way you phrased that made me laugh...."doing a lecture on Swing" ......a news report in a recent sports section was that Tiger Woods was looking for a new Swing coach.....apparently the last guy was good but preferred the one on one approach to things........you can't make this stuff up.......

On a serious note, glad that you are enjoying the new job...........don't forget your promise to turn those young university students on to the Band....


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Posted by:

Steve

That's my point Brien, you don't need to know much to get it right, parity has made it a coin flip. It's difficult, if not impossible to call who'll make the final but then it becomes a 50-50 call to determine the winner. You just have to hope they start running ,two horse, races at Saratoga.

The brilliant part of your call was that you were right about it finishing in 6. The odds are it should have gone 7.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Maybe I need to start betting on things I don't know much about - I predicted Blackhawks in 6 and they did it...., on second thought, I don't know much about horse racing and that never materialized into big winnings when I go to Saratoga.


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Posted by:

Steve

Mitch Miller Band?

That final, Final goal(?) is a pretty accurate comment on the level of parity in the league. I think we've seen the last of the word dynasty being associated with The NHL. Exciting games but the outcome is like flipping a coin to determine the winner.

My assistant manager is still asleep. I need to confer with him mostly for info on our "cap maneuverability" which is now a crucial aspect of hockey management.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Read that joke 8 hours too late...

Did a lecture on swing today (though to an Austrlaian Audience of 1st year music undergrads, the more than usually ubiquitous Milliband family is probably a bit obscure). But I got a good laugh out of it anyway...


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Fred! I lost my religion after the Gilmour years. I think Robbie was secretly cheering for The Hawks last night.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Hockey / Religion

Jesus saves....Gretzky scores on the rebound. : )


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Posted by:

Peter V

Good joke in Private Eye. They announced that the four candidates in the election for leader of the British Labour Party are Ed Milliband, David Milliband, Glen Miller Band and Steve Miller Band.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, let's get this right.You said:

“hockey really is religion here”

You mean lots of people have stickers on their cars, and believe their love of a particular hockey team means they should run the world for everyone else? But that weekly attendence at games has fallen hugely over the last thirty years and is still falling? And that its future is threatened by a more dynamic sport with more vocal supporters?


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Posted by:

Patrick Kane

Thank You.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, don't remember that episode. That time was college, living in residence, so it is a blur. Mary Hartman, Mary Harman was a hoot. I checked and there's a box set of 25 episodes available. I think it's time to revisit that wacky bunch.

Kevin, have to put on my managerial thinking hat and discuss it with my assistant manager son, Rob, before making any ,moves but I can't see letting Price go.

The French media here sometimes refer to Kerry Price as Jesus Christ. Hockey really is religion here.

There's a course at The University Of Montreal called, The Montreal Canadiens as religion.

They cover such topics as La Flannel Sainte, Guy The Blond Devil Lafleur, Saint Patrick Roy and Kerry Price\Jesus Christ and many more overlapping Habs\Religion themes. It really exists. It's taught by a Franciscan, I think.


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Posted by:

Bill M

It occurred to me while watching Joe Walsh play last night that another link between the Band and the Eagles (i.e., in addition to them both being among the top three womenizing rock bands of the '70s, and both of them being among the top three influences of the Women of the Canyon) is that both Joe and Robbie were replaced by Domenic Troiano - Robbie when he left Hawkins and Walsh when he left the James Gang.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Steve

Agree........Funny story about Brodeur and Roy and the mystery of goaltending......many years back they were at some dinner function together in the summer....Brodeur posed the question who the most talented goaltender was in the league - other than the two of them - they both apparently agreed it was Roman Turek - there as a pause and then Roy shrugged and said "Too bad he can't stop the bleeping puck!"......some goalies look great, legs, glove hand, positioning, everything but they just don't get it done....others are unorthodox but do......the million dollar question in hockey circles this summer is what the Habs do with their two great/potentially great ones.......hockey fans in these parts remember Price winning the World Juniors, then being inserted directly into the AHL playoffs with Hamilton and taking an 8th place team on his shoulders to win the Calder Cup. Some of the best goaltending ever seen in the history of the AHL.....Interestingly, the only other goalie to jump directly from Junior to AHL and win a Calder Cup in same season was Patrick Roy...Of course he followed that up with style by winning the Stanley Cup in his rookie season in the NHL......Price seems to have lost his way a bit but consensus in the hockey world is that he might just turn out to be an all-timer....I am just not sure if his mental make-up is right for the pressure cooker that is Montreal.......perhaps a more mild market like Chicago where legend has it there is only 16,000 hockey fans ( they all go to the games apparently - some are even Band fans ) ........what do you think Gauthier is going to do? He has already made a massive blunder by letting coaching sensation (forechecking emphasis) Guy Boucher go to Tampa while we are stuck with lifeless trap master Jacques......I want to see Price but as GM would probably stay with Halak...........Band connection: Somewhere in Hamilton.............


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Mr Potato Head

Speaking of ... Does anybody remember when Martin Mull had the stereotypical flatfoot cop on "Fernwood Tonight" to demonstrate the new police identi-kit - which turned out to be a Mr Potato set? Well, I thought it was funny at the time.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: he eschews bacon

Steve: I advance-ordered the Mk II: Mr. Potato Head VEGAN Elvis . . . .


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, Roy or Brodeur in their prime on either of these teams and it's 4 and out for the other team. Well, Chicago might win one if R or B was playing for Philly. Actually, if either team had Halak or Miller from Buffalo it would be over by now.

Hey, doesn't anyone besides me have an order in with Hasbro for The Mr Potato Head Vegas Elvis?


Entered at Wed Jun 9 20:56:33 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458584.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.105.216)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Dale Tallon was framed

There was a guy handing things out at Queen and John yesterday - doing cartwheels and chanting between the handouts - he may also have been influenced by things that used to influence the boys and girls of Fleetwood Mac, Eagles and the Band.......or it may well have been our Steve celebrating how correct he had been about the dreadful state of goaltending in the Stanley Cup Final.........Conn Smythe goes to Duncan Keith if Chicago wins and Pronger if Philly wins...................

Joan: Quite the triple bill! Chuck, no doubt went on first and was out of the building within minutes......or perhaps not - as he mischievously explained to Robbie in the great Hail Hail Rock n Roll - he did find going on first allowed him certain advantages in meeting friends at the show!!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronno
Web: My link

Subject: Ladies of the Canyon

Yesterday evening downtown I took a flyer from a guy's hand just to be agreeable (and helpful if he was on commission) and found it was a come-on from new group I'd never heard of who were, it says right on the flyer, "influenced by their favourite bands, the Eagles, the Band and Fleetwood Mac". I haven't taken the time to hear if the music at the site above bears that out.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kevin/ Motorcyles

Kevin thanks for that bit of Chuck. It starts the day out right. I saw him years ago in a triple bill with Albert King and The Who at Fillmore East. The Fillmore had some great shows.

My good wishes to Daniel Lanois. That's why we call them "Donorcycles" You need to have your Organ Donor cards filled out. Harley Davidson has taken a few people I knew.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Vegetative Elvis

Everyone got their order in for The Velour, Jump Suited Mr. Potato Head Elvis?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: When in doubt

Some Chuck Berry to brighten up a slow day......


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Procol Harum live

Pat, we saw Procol Harum open for Tull last night and they were excellent. The set list was a good mix of old relatively newer stuff plus one brand new song. They were good enough that my wife, who is in her late 20's and much removed from that musical era, really enjoyed them and thought they were 'great'. The Devil Came From Kansas and Piggy Pig Pig were highlights for me. Nothing from Shine On Brightly. Hopefully you stick around for the Tull portion of the show because they were also spot-on.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Thanks Peter for those Van suggestions.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: "Daniel Lanois badly hurt in L.A. motorcycle crash"


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: left and right

Dee: Thanks for your idea . . . but it didn't work. The same bits were invisible, just the visible bits got littler. Crappy site design, I think (while admitting I know nothing at all about site design).

Steve / Bill - a letter to the _Globe_'s editor suggested "Lake Torycaca."


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Fun site. Thanks Bill.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Canadian Guitarists

In my humble opinion, both Zal Yanofsky and Amos Garrett belong in the top category.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Subject: the young Richard Bell

Here's a link to a detailed article about Ritchie Knight and the Midknights, a mid-'60s Toronto group that I've mentioned from time to time. If you scroll down to the pic sleeve photo of the group on the staircase, that's Richard Bell in '65, third from the right - or top left in the next one. A couple photos later you'll see Richard "King Biscuit Boy" Newell (but no Bell) at far left.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: New Robbie Robertson Song

The new RR is now on youtube.....above link

Bill M: I always enjoy your information on the history of music in this city.........agree on the AG placement silliness but that list is close to .500 - a much better percentage than most lists! Just saw something on Jimmy Bowskill playiung the Horsehoe - he's 18 already! remember that whenever I was at Steve's Music store years ago looking at guitars there would alway be this little kid with a fedora picking instuments off the wall and playing.....he was something else - about 10 yrs old at the time....time flies....he's now 18 with 3 releases to his credit already!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Lac Brains works for me.


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Posted by:

Steve

Hopefully that group that's petitioning the Canadian Toponymy Commission to have lac du ridicule named Harper's Folly are successful.


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Sadavid

When I went to site, I had the same problem with the left side. Clicked on "View" and under "zoom" changed the 100% to 50% and squinting, was able to read it.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: The only context that need be shared re the phony lake is that the G20 is meeting in Toronto, Canada's largest city where not a single one of a couple dozen seats voted for the right-wing party that's now in power. There's no way the Conservatives are gonna let no Liberal/NDP lake appear as a backdrop. NO WAY!

BEG: Horrible to see Amos Garrett qua afterthought (second from bottom of the long "Other" annex) in that list of Canuckistani guitarists. Ken Carty would be there as a joke, presumably because his family or chums voted early and often; he was a presumably adequate member of never-heralded and now-forgotten Willowdale bands like the Five Shy, Manchild, Icarus and Dixie Rump Roast. (I wonder is he saw Amos, who also did some of his growing up in the Willowdale suburb of Toronto?)

It was, however, nice to see the fabulous John Richardson being remembered by at least a couple of people. His big group was the tweenie Lords of London who evolved into the very heavy Nucleus, essentially the Mandala on acid, with Richardson taking Domenic Troiano's style to San Fransisco. (And Troiano's style was Robbie's style taken to extremes, so there's still a bit of Robbie in John's playing.) Nucleus did a classic acid rock album for Mainstream in '69 when the label, flush with cash from having sold Janis and Big Brother to Columbia, swooped into town on a bit of a talent raid. They signed Nucleus, folkie Cathy Young, the Five Shy (see Ken Carty, above), Spuff and the Yeomen. The Yeomen's 45, "Chains" was exceptionally Bandish, with Terry Watkinson (later of Max Webster) sounding closer to Rick Danko than anyone else I can think of.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Silvia's song

hmmmm.....sounds kinda like "Sip the Wine."


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Posted by:

Silvia

Location: Germany

Hey you! Some years ago I listened to a song with its refrain "sit yourself beside me"; but I don´t know who sang this song; it sounds similar to some songs of R. Robertson, but I don´t know if this song is from him...?! Can anyone help me? thx a lot! Greetings from Germany! Silvia


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: All La Glory

Peter, sounds like all the Robertsons' kids project needs now is a CD of Levon reading the stories. They should have also put, All La Glory, on the sound track. Almost goes without saying. Is it too late to make those suggestions?

Peter, as your country heads into bleak economic times, take heart, here's what you can look forward to once you emerge from the dark period in a decade or so.

After, The Liberal Party of Canada, cleared up the RED INK left by 8 years of Conservative government we now have our Neo Cons throwing money around like there's no tomorrow, again.

The price for the G-20 party is now penciled in at 1.2 billion and rising fast.The latest necessity, coming in at a paltry 2 million, is the construction of a pretend lake at the media center complete with pretend canoes. It's being built so journalists can stand in front of it to interview people and pretend they're at the lakeside resort where the meeting is taking place which is out of bounds for the great unwashed.

To put this in context, the pretend lake is 500 meters from the 4th largest lake in the world. See what I mean, the good times are just 10 years of cutting essential public services, away. Then to keep the cycle going you have to elect a far right party or religiously insane PM again to, oh I don't know, maybe invade another country or some other worth while project where billions can be squandered to keep the captains of industry well fattened and god on our side.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Greatest Canadian Guitar Players


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Hi Peter. When I posted about the "The Musical Adventures of Billy and Mojo" last month I said that my faves were....

....."Marley, Cooke, Otis Redding, Sly and The Family Stone, Marvin Gaye, Joni, and The Band! Dylan also, but I would have preferred the faster tempo of "Forever Young". My students also preferred it compared to the slower cut that's usually played."

Paris Montoya emailed and said the book should be out in stores and online this fall. :-D


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie's Book

I liked all the cartoon pictures of the musicians. The style reminds me of the second, American, sleeve of Bowie's "The Man Who Sold The world." The first British one had the "dress cover" then the American release switched to the cartoon and the British to a straight(er) photo. Eventually they all went back to the dress cover.

The selection is SO good. As you'd expect, really!

Competition time: Which songs on there have The Band, or members of The Band recorded? I make at least eight, possibly nine. Go to the link to see the pictures!


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Robbie's book

Thanks Peter - that book looks great - a good way of getting kids interested in the history of popular music. Great cartoon picture of The Band.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Van Morrison

Van? I suspect in the end you need one of his several CD compilations because there are several albums where you have to have a couple of tracks (but maybe not more). Even with Tupelo Honey, I play the title track way, way more than any other. Days Like This too, is one where the title track stands out.

The four I’d choose first are

Astral Weeks. You have to have the original Cyprus Avenue and Madame George.

Moondance

Beautiful Vision

The Healing Game

Then a compilation, The Best of Van Morrison (the first one … you get Brown Eyed Girl and the three classic Them tracks, plus Wonderful Remark produced by Robbie, Domino, Warm Love, Jackie Wilson and not too much duplication with the other four).

Personal choice: Irish Heartbeat next.

Then for something very recent, I love the austin City limits CD, which used to be available only from his website. A live round up of recent stuff.

Too Late To Stop Now is the other, early live one.

By then you’ll be hooked … Veedon Fleece? Inarticulate Speech of The heart?


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Web: My link

Subject: Garth and Maud Upcoming Shows!!!

Follow link above...


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: The Mountain

2007 Levon at his best. I just love this track.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: Mallaig sounds familiar, but I think it was Diabaig that I got to at the end of some road in the same part of the world. The local accent was a charming mixture of Scottish and Norwegian - presumably a Viking overlay.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: Billy & Mojo

Peter V: looks like a good package; a bit hard to tell because my M$ Internet Explorer can't find the left margin of their web pages . . . .
What's with these guitar players and red cats? (Of course, this one's not just a cat, he's also a shaman. Of course.)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie & Sebastian Children's Book + Music

Got sent a very exciting link today. Robbie & Sebastian have produced a unique concept, a children's storybook with two CDs of classic popular music, mainly rock to accompany the stories.

The track list has several in my Desert Island top 20 - Summertime Blues, Johnny B. Goode, Be My Baby, People Get Ready, I Heard It Through the Grapevine, The Weight, Here Comes The Sun, Forever Young, Everyday People, Lucille (I’m afraid I prefer the Everly Brothers version with the wash of acoustic guitars to Little Richard). It really is an incredible selection. The book looks interesting too.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: 45 singles

Currently spinning the following recently acquired 45 singles:

FORTY DAYS b/w ONE OF THESE DAYS (Roulette) -- Ronnie Hawkins & The Hawks

MR. SOUL b/w BLUEBIRD (Atco) -- Buffalo Springfield (rare unique mono single mix of MR. SOUL has different guitar solo than the album versions)

DIFFERENT DRUM b/w I'VE GOT TO KNOW (Capitol) -- Stone Ponys (featuring Linda Ronstadt) A-side hit written by Michael Nesmith

MEMPHIS b/w DOWN IN THE DUMPS (Fraternity) -- Lonnie Mack

PETER GUNN b/w ALONG THE NAVAJO TRAIL (Jamie) -- Duane Eddy

WORKING IN A COAL MINE b/w MEXICO (Amy) -- Lee Dorsey (with Allen Toussaint)


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Peter - I own 3 Van Morrison cd's that I could find not too long ago - MoonDance, Days Like This, San Francisco Night's(?) Live. I thought I had another. Anyway - what would be the Top 5 or 10 Van Morrison cd's you would say are essential for a good collection?


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, where are you with this exciting Cup Final going on in two of the three best hockey cities in the US, Detroit being the third, in my opinion.

Lots of exciting play, great battle between The Buff and The Prong and two goalies who give the other team the confidence they can come back even if they fall behind in the game. Great final, I have no favorite, both are deserving.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Something I found mildly depressing. I was in a secondhand record shop looking at the 45s as usual, and the owner had a large box of CDs on the counter. They were fresh in, and all review copies. I’d hardly heard of any of the artists, but they’d been dropped on the shop by a journalist. It was just a couple of weeks worth of review discs, and more than a couple of weeks’ listening, which is why it was dumped. I’d bet that most were unplayed, or only skimmed through.

I thought of books and records and how each of the artists (or theirlabels) had happily paid a promo company who reported back that (say) two hundred review copies had been sent out, so everyone waits in excitement. And that’s where they all end up.

In yesterday’s Sunday Times, Robert Sandall reviewed Greil Marcus’s book on Van Morrison. Apparently Marcus raves about everything up to St. Dominic’s Preview, dismisses everything between 1973 and 2006 as useless, than raves about “Keep It Simple.” I had five or six hours in the car on Friday and decided to hit my Van Morrison playlist. I only had Van all day, and listened right through Beautiful Vision (one of the albums Marcus dismisses) twice. I believe the Van fanzine voted it most popular album, and I’d rate it as among the best two or three. So the book sounds poor.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Levon At Mountain Jam Webcast

Wow! thanks LHS for the tip. Glad I checked in here, but I wish I had checked in a little sooner. It was a really good quality webcast with good camera work and multiple angles. Hopefully it will be archived somewhere for a while.

I missed most of the show, but I did tune into the webcast just in time to see The Levon Helm Band do a fantastic version of 'I'll Take You There' with Amy singing her heart out on lead vocals and the band was joined by the great David Hood on Bass. Another amazing moment was a mandolin solo by Sam Bush during 'The Weight'.....real soulful....which was met by approving smiles from Levon from behind the drum kit.

Well tomorrow night I venture down to City Winery to check out the live rehearsal in preparation for a Central Park Summerstage fundraiser the following night. Ollabelle is the house band, and they'll be joined by many guests including the Holmes Brothers among others. It's been a while since I've been to a show, so I'm really looking forward to it. Woot!

Roger, I saw your recent query asking about other possible Ollabelle dates in the UK while they're over there for the Richard Thompson Festival thing, but I don't know. If I hear anything about it tomorrow, I'll let you know.


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Posted by:

LHS

Web: My link

Subject: Live Webcast!! Mountain Jam VI

Levon Helm and Friends - Live Webcast!! Mountain Jam VI 7:30pm


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Another subject I shouldn't weigh in on...

But I suspect the trophy was on loan to the museum. I seem to have a memory that a relative of Rick's was selling off some of his stuff (for what, I don't know - well, money, but whether there was a desperate need, or some other motive, I don't know. If I knew, I forgot.) Again, I don't know for sure, but based on an admittedly shaky memory and some wild conjecture, I'd imagine that's the case.

I'd imagine those around here who knew Rick would be more than happy to shut me up on this topic (if not others, as well).


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Posted by:

São Paulo

I'd give you a private lesson, but I have to go to chóich.


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Posted by:

Peter V

You would have kind of hoped that the museum would hang on to it. Stuff like this used to end up in Hard Rock Cafés who were the main buyers internationally. I know at a UK charity auction some years back they bought most of the gold discs and guitars on offer. At least in that way they are in a public place and on display.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Rick's R&R Hall of Fame Trophy

Kind of sad isn't it?


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: boston
Web: My link

Subject: got 8k laying around?


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Posted by:

Steve

Smart move by BP to use the US Coast Guard more and more as a messenger service between them and the public. The coast guard spokesman delivers the info even explaining the details BP wants made public and then if something fucks up, oh well, shoot the messenger. Make somebody else the voice and face of the problem.

The job the Coast Guard should be doing is to anchor out at the well with all of BP's big wigs on board and start tossing one into the ocean each day the well keeps spewing oil into the Gulf.

Now that would deliver a message to the oil industry and think of the savings. No need to monitor and inspect operations and pass legislation to protect the environment. Give the industry what it wants, self regulation. They could save all that cash they dole out to lobbyists and politicians and we'd get the kind of environmental protection money can't buy.

Can't beat it for cost effectiveness and we know how industry loves cost effectiveness. They're sure to be all for it. Northwestcoaster, I'm still having trouble adjusting to your new name but I have no problem recognizing the posting style.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hellooooo! I'll be there Blind Willie McTell....right floor, aisle 4. I'll be celebrating the last day of school with the kidzzz and hopefully hearing Levon sing at least one song! I especally like Levon's singing on....
(early version) of "All La Glory"
Blue House Of Broken Hearts
The Mountain

Levon New Orleans Jazz Fest 2010


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Posted by:

Mark (aka old Blind Willie)

Location: Toronto

Subject: Honouring Levon

Hi Band fans. It has been years since I have posted here. Hi BEG!! Are you going to the Massey Hall Ramble? Look for me near the aisle, LSF Row O. What are Levon's best singing songs with The Band? I propose "All La Glory" from Stage Fright.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

MONDAY, MAY 24, 2010
Simone Felice pays tribute to Levon Helm on his Birthday

“Levon Helm is the patron saint of Woodstock. So much more than a groundbreaking musician/drummer or a voice on the radio. He’s a back-mountain mystic, an enduring force of nature, like a kung fu master or a heavy rain in the Catskills. In my wildest pipe-dreams as a kid growing up here, doing music, writing songs, I could never have imagined him smiling up at me from his wooden kit after being asked to sing ‘The Weight’ with him and Larry and Co. to my great suprise after opening a ramble. How lucky are we to have his drums still beating, his big heart beating strong, his voice still echoing off these funky old mountains of ours after all these years?"


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Posted by:

Northwestcoaster

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Spencer Davies, John Mayall, Levon Helm / (music)

These three gentlemen have at least one thing in common. They have educated a musician who has grown bigger than the band leader himself: Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, J. Robbie Robertson.

Thanks to all of you who have informed about Mr. Winwood and Mr. Clapton. They will be playing (hopefully) "The Shape I'm In" in a concert in South West Coastal Region. Trying to be there...


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Posted by:

Deb

Ari, did you spend some time in Clarksdale? Are the big metal dinosaurs still by the road in Ergemont? That drive down 61 is a great trip. Glad you got the chance to do it.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: Sao Paulo

The members of the Deadstring Brothers hail from Detroit City, Britain and Alabama, so it's no wonder that this alt-country group sounds like the Exile-era Stones trading songs with Gram Parsons at Tootsie's Orchid Lounge. In fact, the boys recently moved their home base from Detroit to Nashville and released this excellent album "Sao Paulo" on Bloodshot Records. If this venture sounds intriguing, you should check it out and play it LOUD. I managed to pour a shot of Maker's Mark in my coffee this morning while listening to this LP, but I'll be damned if I could figure out how to put that squigley line over the "a" in Sao Paulo :-).


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bill M

It looks really great, but I'll have to pass on the invite. However, funnily enough, I'm playing Gordon Lightfoot's Greatest Hits all the time just now. I enjoy your posts on Canadian music and certainly have BARK up there as favourites now.

This year I'm thinking of going up to Mallaig(use this as a base for island trips) and Skye for the annual holiday. It's a beautiful area. I've passed Skye several times, but never been on it.


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Posted by:

joe J

Web: My link

Subject: Wayfaring Stranger

Link is to Neko. This live version is OK but doesn't hold a candle to the recorded version I noted earlier.


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Posted by:

joe J

Location: Southside
Web: My link

Subject: What I Mean

Link is to Crooked Still's version of 'Ain't No Grave (Can Hold My Body Down)' from the recently discussed 'True Blood'.


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Posted by:

joe J

Subject: Crooked Bands

I was driving across the island today when a selection by a modern bluegrass band, Crooked Still, played on the radio. They're not to be confused with Newfoundland bluegrass band, Crooked Stovepipe. Both of these bent bands are worth checking out. The DJ then signed off with a great version of 'Wayfaring Stranger' by Neko Case. Nice drive.

Mr. Keith Richards dropped by today. Indulge me if you've heard this one before. Mr. Richards was actually born in the same time and place as the RS guitar player. My Mr. Richards, a retired school custodian, played trombone in a jazz combo. He knew the other on a nodding basis. There had been several 'Keith Richards meet Keith Richards' moments. "Always good for a pint" he was. Anyway my Keef emigrated to Canada in 1965, is not really a RS fan and was hard pressed to name a favourite RS song (Ruby Tuesday). I've got Roy Rogers scheduled for next week.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Returning from a venture from Memphis down the Delta to Vicksburg. You really can hear music if you drive down highway 61 at night.


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Posted by:

Steve

Have the US media asked for an accounting from The Prez as to how many millions he got from the oil barons during his, Yes We Can, campaign? I haven't seen the same emotion he displayed in that campaign so far in this Beyond Petroleum disaster.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, I like Toot's version of Country Road much better than the Rocky Mountain guy's version. Almost heaven, like West Jamaica.


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Posted by:

Northwestcoaster (Ilkka)

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Announcement of a new nickname

Just moved to West Coast. "Westcoaster" seems to be already occupied so I a must find another nickname. This fella recommended that I should visit a shrink. I recommend that this person listen to WAYLON JENNINGS' "I've always been crazy but that's why I'm not going insane."


Entered at Fri Jun 4 15:06:16 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dunc: I enjoyed your little video of the frozen lake. The link above is aimed at you - a bit of encouragement to raid the piggybank (and even the kids' if you have to) to attend this year's Mariposa festival next month. It's the 50th annual, so you get Lightfoot, both Tysons, Murray McLauchlan et many al. The video at the site is of Daniel Lanois playing "In The Arms Of The Maker" last year.

Joe J / BEG: I rate Toots' "Sweet and Dandy" LP as a must-haves, and not just for "Pressure Drop", so I found him singing "Country Roads" unlistenable.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What You Got!

The girl Can't help it! We know you're a class Joan. I gotta go this morning. Drive to Port Hardy where my tug is. Get to work........gawd damn it.

Y'all have a nice time........."They'll never take me alive!"........................later


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thanks very much joe J. I see "Cat" from Third World was performing with Toots. The Maytals with Toots are the only reggae group that I keep missing either in Toronto or the many times I've visited NYC. imagezulu caught them one time here for free! While waiting at the bus stop I could hear Gregory Isaacs in someone's car. The Jamaican standing beside me was surprised that I knew my music.

Joan: I remember the blue uniform very well unfortunately. We did play field hockey but we also played.....broom ball hockey! Thanks to that game I had a lot of dental work......

The hockey fan....atics in my class are all cheering for Chi Town! Thanks to Stevon Farm I told them that most are Canadians anyway! Yes.....just like when the Blue Jays won twice......We all knew that only one player was actually Canadian.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: my two cents

I think you're a class act, Joan.


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Posted by:

Steve

Joan, is your back still improving?

Great program on PBS a couple of nights back, I can't remember the exact title but it could be called, Your Brain On Music.

Using MRI imagining a researcher tried to identify how our brains react to music we like and don't like.

I think it can be said that dedicated Band fans' brains, if imaged while we were listening to The Weight, would all appear to be quite similar, very active.

The researcher, who is a classical music enthusiast, with a particular affinity for Bach, responded in a big way while listening to Bach but hardly at all while listening to Beethoven.

You'd probably see the exact same results from Peter's brain listening to the Band followed by The Doors.

The interesting part is that your brain activity is almost identical if you listen to a song or just imagine the song in your head.

Actually imagining the song caused more brain activity as the frontal lobe ( the creative part)was more active than when just listening to the song. Imagine Band songs and give the little gray cells a workout.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: "Sissy"

Yup I am, and proud of it!! I have better ways of showing "what I've got " :-)

Simon thanks for the Bolero The kid is amazing.


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Posted by:

joe J

Web: My link

Link is to a Toots Hibbert video. Take me home.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Joan, if I didn't know better I'd have bet you were describing the way the Flyers / Canadiens series ended.


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Posted by:

Steve

Joan, unless the leg was broken or blood from a gouged artery in your leg was spurting a mist of blood that was getting in your eyes make it difficult to continue I have to reluctantly agree with Norm. SISSY.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Nothing to do with the Band

This was an horrendous winter for us. However there was plenty of ice. The only loch, which is called a lake in Scotland, the Lake of Menteith, hosts a massive curling tournament every thirty years or so, when the ice reaches a certain thickness. It reached it this year, but the Bonspiel which the tournament is called, never took place because of health and safety considerations. I don't think it'll ever happen again.


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Subject: Ravel's Bolero

I stumbled upon this last night and thought it was worth posting. It's a lovely version for acoustic guitar by a young chap by the name of Sungha Jung - see link. He also does a version of Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head which is fantastic - and he only looks about nine or ten in that clip. I still struggle with attempting to play a low part and a high part at the same time ... it's a bit like patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time. Still, practice makes perfect. I can't imagine what young Sungha will be like when grows up.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Thanks Mr. Hoiberg for your decorous site

Surfing the web is a pain nowadays. In opposite to all that junk this site is clean. Take a look at the code of this site sometime and enjoy a piece of Internet history from the time when Internet was not a sewer. It is like poetry!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: WHAT!!!!

You can't read writin' when it's writtin rotten????? Huh?? You useless no good good for nothing low down greased pole stump rancher! The very Idea!

Awwwwww......Joan yuh little sissy.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: The Iguana/ Field hockey

I had a friend who lived on 13th off Fifth. I remember the Iguana very well. He'll never see the wild scene he had in NYC at the zoo.

I detested Field Hockey. We played it in gym class (yes we wore those awful blue bloomer gym suits). After I was hit in the knee for the third time in 5 minutes, I took the stick to the gym teacher and said "Here, you play. I'm done!" Still got a passing grade though


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Posted by:

Steve

Charlie, it should be noted that, Steven Page, of TBNLs was acquitted of charges of cocaine possession.

I believe that he chose to leave the ladies to pursue a solo career which he had been working on for the last couple of years. At least that's what it sounded like in interviews I've heard with him and some of his former mates.

Robertson and Page co-fronted the Ladies. Unlike our Robertson, the Ladies' Robertson always needed to have his mike on since his voice is an integral part of the band's vocal sound.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Iguana, BNL and Service Charges

Tim: I remember that Lone Star Cafe iguana from my NYC days in the 1980s. It's good to know he's found a home.

I just read an article about a formerly five member Canadian band fronted by a guy named Robertson. It's the streamlined version of Barenaked Ladies, now down to four guys after firing a member who was busted for cocaine days after the release of their first collection of songs for children.

I also just read that Live Nation is suspending service charges for the month of June. I guess ticket sales must be off. I know I'm not going to half as many shows as I used to.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Ice

In the south of England, only an idiot would venture onto a frozen pond. I’d think there have been maybe three occasions in thirty years when there’d be another ice to stand on. One was this winter where people did get killed falling through. Ask Dunc. I guess it’s cold enough in Scotland but if they had sticks with a bent bit at the bottom they’d be off playing golf.

In the 1830s and 1840s they regularly had large ice fairs on the Thames in London, when it was solid for weeks. The Dickensian Christmas snow was genuine, but it was a relatively short much colder period. I don’t think that has anything to do with global warming, just fluctuation.


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Posted by:

Steve

Aren't you describing hurling, Peter?

Norm I'm guessing that you went to a small, single story high school if you called that short, stocky girl , Elphinstone High. Heartless bunch, weren't you.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: He Shoots!.........She scores!!!

In the younger years, there is a lot of co-ed hockey now-a-days, and it has caused some ruckus at times over whether or not to allow it. Our Olympic Team has shown how advanced hockey is here and in the states.

Just this last winter games, there was a great deal of discussion over allowing the USA & Canada to continue against teams that obviously have no chance against them.

I suppose some of you may have seen the headline this morning, "Why Brazil will win the World Cup."

In a hockey league I used to play in back in the 70's, one team had a girl for goalie, Edna. She was a short stockey little woman, and quite masculine really. She had a nick name since high school, "Elphinstone High, (where I went). Quite oddly for some one so short, but Edna was called the javelin thrower. She could throw a gawd damn javelin.....man I don't remember her record for BC but it was huge. Anyway she was some goalie, hard to get anything by her.


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Posted by:

Bill M

In my day all girls looked burlier than they really were whenever they played field hockey or other sports because they all wore those ballooning blue button-up uniforms. I think the English call them something like gym slips. Maybe that's what's stuck in Fred's mind?


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Posted by:

dlew 'hit a goal for 6, taking the score to deuce-all' 919

Location: Weighing in on sport... and Bill M..

Hockey is for both sexes here in Aus: one of hte few sports I was good at. The Hockeyroos have won Olympic Gold Medals here in the past... it's interesting, isn't it, how different countries have different attitudes. Though I suppose, if I were to think about it, more women play it here. ... I should have said nothing...

Bill M: I'd guess that voice is Adelaidean, or even from maybe north of Adelaide... but I wouldn't know for sure.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Peter - do you guys have cold enough winters where your ponds and lakes freeze over for a decent amount of time? In Canada, a good frozen winter is one of their longer seasons to successfully play sports in - hence, one reason for hockey being so popular there.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jolly hockey sticks!

I wonder why hockey (or non-ice hockey for Canadians) bcame seen as a largely female sport in Britain? It was popular in the days of the Indian Empire I believe with men. In the 1950s and 1960s it wasn’t just burly girls in skirts, as nearly all girls were forced to play it in compulsory games lessons at school. It always seems a bit violent to me. Maybe that’s why it became a female sport, in that they could be better trusted to play it. Adolescent boys chasing around the field with large sticks would have led to broken heads rather than just the nasty ankle taps.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: slightly Band related link

If you ever caught the Band, or various combos of guys from the Band at the Lone Star Cafe in the 80's, this guy should ring a bell.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: John Cazale

I did see that, thought it was pretty good. Nice to see him get some love. I work about 5 miles from where he is buried in Malden MA but I haven't yet visitied his grave. Maybe something to do this week.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Anyone see the HBO special on John Cazale? It got some rave reviews but I thought it was ok to better than average. I think he was a great actor and there were some really great insights into his method and what he did as an actor but overall I didn't get all the hype - 2 1/2 stars out of four.


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Posted by:

Fred

Steve: That's oh so true. Hopefully global warming will change that. : )


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Posted by:

Steve

Fred, just one correction. We, the FROZEN Few.


Entered at Thu Jun 3 12:34:33 CEST 2010 from sannin29154.nirai.ne.jp (203.160.29.154)

Posted by:

Fred

sigh...OK let me explain this one more time:

We the Chosen Few (Canadians) call the game played on an icy surface by it's proper name "Hockey", the uncouth, unwashed masses (i.e. the rest of the world) erroneously call it ICE hockey.

We, the Chosen Few (Canadians) call the sport played on a long & wide field by burly young women in skirts FIELD Hockey.

Once you get these facts straight, you'll be allowed to march along in the procession....maybe. : )


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, hockey is a magical game, no doubt about it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

That was a very confusing post, Steve. I couldn't work out how you could play hockey on a pond without the puck sinking. Then a light flashed on! You guys haven't been talking about "hockey" at all (a sport where England were once champions at something), you're talking about ICE hockey! Yes, that's an exciting game to watch. We used to have it on TV next to the all-in wrestling, which was similar, but with less clothing.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland/flyover country lawrence KS
Web: My link

Subject: two class acts at The White House

President Obama honors Sir Paul McCartney. Kind and welcome words from Sir Paul.


Entered at Thu Jun 3 00:28:12 CEST 2010 from 21cust61.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.61)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Leave It To Pierre

Pat, Pierre Pilote explained today why we're discussing hockey here in the GB

I heard the 78 year old former Hawk from Northern Quebec and Port Erie Ontario on our local CBC radio station in Quebec City.

Amazingly, he didn't play organized hockey til he was 17. He had lived in Quebec til he was 13 and played hockey on local ponds and outdoor rinks but never on a team, just pick up games with the local kids where he had to wear his mother's old skates because they couldn't afford skates for him and his siblings. Actually his preferred sport was baseball.

When he moved to Ontario he didn't play again til he was 17. When he was 17 he started playing one day a week in an industrial league and then he played junior.

He explained that he was surprised that at age 17 when he started playing again after not having skated or played for 4 years he was able to pick it up like he'd never been away.

He described playing hockey like playing music. He said if you played songs for a couple of years and learned them well but then didn't play them for a couple of years the music would still be there in your brain and would come right back to if you picked it up again.

He said hockey is like music in that way.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Ironically!!!

You ARE welcome Bill. Glad you and Dee enjoyed it. I also watched the Sudbury Saturday night.

Gawd Damn Pat! You really didn't expect anything Steve said to make any sense........did you??

I just got back froma sojourne down on the ferries and drive out past Vancouver to visit my kids & grand kids. I spent most the afternoon yesterday sitting in a mall, while Elana, (now 7 months old) chewed enthusiastically on my finger, (teething).

Her mom lost so much weight and is so gorgeous again, I bought her some clothes.

Any way IRONIC! The weather here is horrible, rain & blow like January. The freeway is ripped all up while they install more rapid transit, over passes and all kinds of shit. Water, mud and junk every where. As I'm fighting my way down the freeway, on the radio Tom Cochrane screams at me, "Life is a highway, I want to ride it.....all...night.long." The man is gawd damn nuts I say!


Entered at Wed Jun 2 22:57:02 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Take me up to heaven, not hell where I belong...

Yes Pat -- "Juicy John Pink" (lyrics by Keith Reid and music by Robin Trower). Great song from a great album, "A Salty Dog".


Entered at Wed Jun 2 22:34:46 CEST 2010 from h-68-164-4-221.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.164.4.221)

Posted by:

Pat B

Gary Brooker of Procol Harum opened a song with, "Well I opened my eyes this morning, and I wasn't at home in bed...." Lyrics by Keith Reid no doubt.


Entered at Wed Jun 2 22:21:21 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Shake Me Wake Me

sadavid: You got me thinking. Maybe there's room in the blues world for -

Didn't wake up this morning
Couldn't look around for my shoes
Widow already gave 'em to Goodwill
I got those left-the-premises blues

[It goes on from there.]


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: woke up in a gris-gris bag

David P: thanks for that link, that song's great fun . . . a stroke of genius to title a song after the most (ab)used line in bluesdom . . . unlike Bill, of course, I've seen _The Sopranos_'s opening sequence countless times, and can't hear this song without a mental image of fat-ass Jimmy G. puffing that fat-ass Cuban while he pilots that fat-ass Suburban toward some date with deathly destiny.
As I've said _ad nauseum_, the best thing in title sequences is the _True Blood_ opener (see [My link]) (and of course I'm stoked that there's now a Band link to justify the repetition).
And common sense says otherwise, but that sure looks like Buddy Miller rockin' in the middle of it all . . . .


Entered at Wed Jun 2 20:50:41 CEST 2010 from 21cust20.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.20)

Posted by:

Steve

Brien, you're talking history. The overall tax burden on Canadians is now lower than that on Americans. What was probably hollowing out your wallet was the actual price of commodities which are higher.

It's funny to hear your argument about the size of our country's population making it cheaper to run.

The big thinkers here always explain to us that it costs more to provide services to smaller populations spread out over vast areas and use the comparison of the US where populations are cheaper to provide services to because of denser populations( not citizens) and economies of scale which if I remember is an argument made by big business as well.

Bill, what will kill us is that we're now the leading country in the G-20 in terms of personal household debt something Americans showed us was the road to hell but obviously no one here was paying attention to.

Americans have been forced to face that demon and now we're whistling past the grave yard on our way to Walmart


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norbet/ Memphis Joe

Norbert they were hysterical. I'm still laughing.

Memphis Joe, Welcome! We try to behave around here, but every once in a while.....


Entered at Wed Jun 2 19:27:21 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: You neglected to mention two things:

1) While our NeoCon PM does have a master's degree in economics, it's from the school of Uncle Miltie (Friedman not Berle, unfortunately).

2) When said NeoCon PM gets around to cutting his way back to a balanced budget, it'll be the social programs that'll be his first and likely only target - as if they were the cause of it all.

But hey, we at least have rock and roll stamps now!


Entered at Wed Jun 2 19:20:41 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Steve - how small countries run their show, doesn't help our situation. And essentially when a country has about 270 million less people in it than ours and nowhere near the diversity, it is a small country - no disrespect.

besides it was the government that led to the deregulation of how the banks did their business and who led the charge - Democrat Chris Dodd, that wonderful leader who told everyone who would listen that Freddie and Fannie were ok, nothing to worry about here (helped that he sat on thier board and contributed nicely to his campaigns). The housing issue is the fault of both liberals and conservatives. Both parites starting in the late 90's, began to think that it was a person's right to own a home rather than a privilege. Both parties loosened up the standards at which a person could get a home. Unfortunatley, Politicians looked at it as a way to get votes, business saw opportunity to make more money, and people were stupid enough to believe they could afford everything via credit. All parites are to blame. There is no single villian here - that would be too easy.

As for big oil, well, as long as politicians decide that lobby money will rule the day, then it is quite possible that big business will run the government. It's the governments choice to go this route and the people's fault for letting it. Again, blame all around. Why do you think the Tea Party movement is so strong now - there are lots of folks in it who want to transform government - for better or worse, we'll see. I'd love to see major lobby refrom done. I don't think these major businesses should have such powerful sway. I was talking with our candidate for Congress this fall about it and she thought that former congresspeople should not be allowed to work for any lobby for at least 5 years after leaving congress. Right now 75% of lobbyist are ex-congressfolks.

If your liberal government had the balls to stand up to the banks and reel them in - good for you. And if they are always running in the black or were good for them. After visiting Canada a few times, I think it is a beautiful country but vacationing there will empty your wallet quick with all the taxes that are imposed - I'm sure if we levied that kind of tax burden on our populace, we'd be in better shape but I don't think the folks are willing to pay that price yet - but they may get their chance if Obama is elected a second term and he makes a run at the VAT tax that has been bandied about.

sorry folks for taking the bait but that juiucy worm was to fat to let go. I'll think better next time - besides it's been quite some time since I've jumped into these waters.


Entered at Wed Jun 2 18:51:21 CEST 2010 from 21cust9.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.9)

Posted by:

Steve

Brien, it's about gov'ts not governing. The oil spill appears to be a prime example. Banks went bust because the government didn't govern. Wall street went bust because the government didn't govern.

Here in the Great White North none of that happened even though our government spends money on lots of social programs. Our banks stayed solvent, even profitable, they never missed a profitable quarter, because the previous Liberal Government said NO to the banks when they wanted to merge and get big enough to get into all the corrupt behaviour American and European banks were into in the last decade.

As hard as it is to believe, our previous Liberal gov't had about 10 consecutive years of surplus cash at the end of each fiscal year.

Then we elected a minority Neo Con gov't that managed to spend and tax break it's way to a budget deficit in two years, even before the economic downturn hit, putting the lie to the much professed wisdom that Conservatives are great money managers. Our own Neo Con even has a masters degree in economics which didn't seem to help him recognize we were in a recession til it was half over. If you don't slam the door to executives of powerful corporations waltzing in and out of government to keep the laws governing them almost non existent then you have the mess that's sinking you now.

Paying for needed social programs isn't the problem, if it was, Canada, as well as many northern European countries would have been sunk long ago. I think you need to look elsewhere. If you let Wall St. and Big Oil run your government then you get government for Wall St. and Big Oil. Many people have been saying it for years and now it's no longer debatable. You'd have to try hard not to see the evidence.


Entered at Wed Jun 2 17:05:00 CEST 2010 from (216.113.92.2)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Favourite heckler story was an elderly British fella visiting his son in Canada.......he was told that he was being brought to the circus.......Cirque du Soleil as it turned out.......after an hour or more of watching funny looking men and women in tights being hoisted up and down from the roof....the old guy shouted out...."When are the fu*king tigers coming on"?

Maybe we all should just take a 20 year break......apply the Chinese model of capitalist society with one effective authoritarian government.....no more elections, no more false promises, no more Fox News, no more American Idol, we will create a department of talent and hire some bureaucrats to scour the country side to find new Rick Danko's, Richard Manuel's, Garth Hudson's, Levon Helm's and Robbie Robertson's and mandate 12 new Band albums......This time they may even make some money!


Entered at Wed Jun 2 14:51:24 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Alabama 3

We liked the song so much we bought the album years ago. I see they're touring soon.


Entered at Wed Jun 2 14:21:47 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Peter and others - it's finally coming to light that these make-believe budgets that governments have been going on for generations can't sustain itself, especially in pressing economic times. Cuts are going to be everywhere and there's going to be lots of complaining but folks are going to have to realize that even all these government services, good, bad and indifferent are going to all have to scale back and have to come in line with economics that make sense. Here in NJ we elected a Governor who's slashing everything because we are billions upon billions of dollars behind. The teachers are in an uproar over his cuts, social services are in an uproar over his cuts but there just isn't anymore cash to pay for it. I just think folks just got used to getting their assumed fair share without worry as to where the income is coming from. Democrats tried a new millionare tax to make sure that seniors got their Property Tax rebate which was a gimmick that even the former Democrat governor of the state who implemented in the late 70's knows is a gimmick and that it is time for it to go - it costs the state to give that money back wherein they have to increase taxes in order to give it back. He stopped it. Through lots of pain, the governor realizes and tells us constantly, which I support, the state will get back on track fiscally. As we watch country's crumble, the Euro get threatened, this oil disaster looming, and economies all over the world getting edgy.., the signal is clear. Get your house in order. China show support for Europe - you bet they'll say this because if Europe falls apart, China falls with it, the US falls again and who knows. This isn't about the failures or success of capitalism (as some would like us to believe) this is the failure of governments controlling their spending.


Entered at Wed Jun 2 14:11:55 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Thanks for that link. As I've never watched "The Sopranos", the tune comes as a total revelation. The speaker of the intro sounds like an NZer to me, or maybe somebody from one of the more effete cities of Australia - Perth or Adelaide. What say you, dlew?


Entered at Wed Jun 2 14:05:34 CEST 2010 from c-59-101-12-67.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.12.67)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: that should be of course...

Be prepared to keep it light, not 'not keep it light'... sorry about that.


Entered at Wed Jun 2 13:44:53 CEST 2010 from c-59-101-12-67.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.12.67)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Hey Memphis Joe: Welcome.

Everyone's pretty gentle. Keep your weapon holstered, don't get into pointless arguments, (be prepared to not keep it light, and you'll do fine. I was going to say 'keep on topic', but as the topics range from hockey, to environments, to families, to personal triumphs/tragedies, to politics, to insane ramblings (mainly me) to western and eastern music (where's Empty Now?). Oh, and we occasionally talk about the Band!

Enjoy!


Entered at Wed Jun 2 13:32:27 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 1.1 billion

Sounds excessive, Steve … you could start a small war for that.

I suspect we're in for cuts, cuts and more cuts. They announced and listed yesterday the 172 civil servants (government employees) who earn more than the Prime Minister, as well as reminding everyone that the cabinet ministers have just cut their own salary by 5%.


Entered at Wed Jun 2 12:17:22 CEST 2010 from 21cust191.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.191)

Posted by:

Steve

Good, Pat, hope you are. Now, on to the most important aspect of this year's run for the cup; Can Hossa three-peat?

Norbert, " She's in the attic", almost brought tears to my eyes.

To keep BP's spending in the Gulf in perspective it's interesting to note that while BP says it has spent 900 million so far in the oil spill disaster, Canada's Neo Con dullards are spending 1.1 billion on security for this month's 4 day G-20 meeting in Toronto. They've cut funding for almost every group involved in social justice in Canada( we can't afford it)but have now spent more than 2 billion dollars on security for the G-20 and The Olympics in just 6 months.

The last G-20 meeting in Glen Eagles, Scotland, cost the Brits ONLY 100 million.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Heckling

I enjoyed those, most were new to me, but I always heard the Bono one was in Dublin. Glasgow was known (and feared by comedians) for the high standard of inventive heckling, but there's something about the line that fits Ireland.

My favourite, which I've quoted before (and which has some history as a band heckle) was at a Steve Vai / Joe Satriano concert, and came from one of my companions (and got a big laugh). After yet another interminable piece of jammed tuneless showing-off, he shouted "Why don't you play something you all know?"

The most famous Band-related heckle is "Judas!" followed by "I don't believe you … you're a liar! Play fucking loud …" (the last line has been disputed hotly, but a majority hear it.) I suppose the true answer was the rendition of the song.


Entered at Wed Jun 2 01:32:31 CEST 2010 from h-68-164-4-221.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.164.4.221)

Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, who says I'm not having fun?


Entered at Wed Jun 2 00:02:53 CEST 2010 from 21cust125.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.125)

Posted by:

Steve

Pat, you're far too serious about this, remember it's sports were talking, no ones life is at stake. I'm going to have to show some restraint and make only factual, statistically supported comments which of course are hardly worth making. Where's the fun in that? We'd be just posting stats back and forth.

I prefer editorial chest thumping when it comes to sport commentary. btw The Hawks were my team from about age 6 til about age 40. I drifted away from all sports around then for a couple of years but then got back into it when my older son Rob got addicted to hockey, watching and playing, and NFL football thanks to Marge's seven brothers who are all Patriot Fanatics.

I'm now a Canadiens' fan because they're the team I get to watch play and they are the local squad.

Chicago originally got me with the funky uniforms. The only jersey I have is a Denis Savard Chicago model.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Norbert

Really enjoyed the post.

My friend was at a concert at the Apollo(the real Apollo!) in Glasgow when the lead singer, as they did in those days, held the mike over the stage for fans to sing. The reply from one fan was 'You fuckin' sing, I've paid you.'

This one I saw myself. At a Ramblin' Jack Elliot concert somebody shouted, 'Stop fuckin' ramblin'. Sing something.' A bit unfair!


Entered at Tue Jun 1 23:10:39 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Charlie: Freddy Weller joined the Raiders in 1967 and played with them for about 4 or 5 years before his own career took off. When he toured with Billy Joe Royal, he also acted as band leader, as he knew the charts and could run through the changes when they played with other musicians on package tours. In the studio, both he & Joe South (who was featured along with Robbie Robertson on Dylan's "Blonde On Blonde") handled the guitar parts for Billy Joe and the legendary Emory Gordy, Jr. was often featured on bass. Freddy was one of the earliest guitarists to begin using the string-bender Telecaster technique perfected by the late-great Clarence White. Years earlier, Weller & South, along with pedal steel man Pete Drake, Ray Stevens, Jerry Reed and Billy Joe Royal, all were featured on the weekly Georgia Jubilee radio show broadcast live in Atlanta.

The British group Alabama 3 had to use the name A3 here in the U.S. because of litigation with the group Alabama. Their song "Woke Up This Morning" was used in the opening of all the episodes of The Sopranos. They recorded another mix (link above) that featured a spoken intro and "Oh yeah..." samples from Muddy Waters' "Mannish Boy", one of the songs he performed at The Last Waltz with The Band. A different mix was used on The Sopranos that omitted the intro and the Muddy Waters snippets; I suspect the latter was taken out to avoid additional licensing fee issues.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 22:13:58 CEST 2010 from mtrlpq02-1176248394.sdsl.bell.ca (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal
Web: My link

Norbert thanks for posting that. I've had to walk out of the office a couple of times as I was shticking myself with laughter. In a word, Arrrrgh!


Entered at Tue Jun 1 21:26:29 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno
Web: My link

Welcome Memphis Joe! Smart move, putting in that 'go Habs' thing, which is bound to win over the GB's sizeable northern contingent.

David P: I'd never heard of Alabama 3B4, just the two numberless Alabamas - the ones that did "The Party" and the ones that did the one in the link above. The principals of that Toronto-based band were, as I understand it, two Alabamans who chose here over Vietnam. Speaking of "The Party", I'm pretty sure it was the Irish Rovers who did the hit remake for the Canadian market, changing the topic of the subtable human-feline conversation from football to hockey.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

David: the first real rock'n'roll show my brother and I ever attended was one by Paul Revere and the Raiders at the old Convention Hall in Asbury Park, NJ. The opening act was Billy Joe Royal. Until your post below I never knew the connection between Freddy Weller (who was with the Raiders at that point) and Billy Joe Royal. Thanks for informing me of that tidbit. The same summer Bruce Springsteen saw the Doors in the same place, but my brother and I were a little young for that one.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 20:57:08 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Bill M: The guitars on that song do remind me of ARS, but it also sounds a lot like A3 (Alabama 3), the group that did the song used for the opening theme for The Sopranos tv series.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 20:54:42 CEST 2010 from ool-44c7b932.dyn.optonline.net (68.199.185.50)

Posted by:

memphis joe

Location: near canada

Subject: hockey

paul simon had a song on his debut record called papa hobo, where he talked about DETROIT, DETROIT HAD A HELLUVA HOCKEY TEAM...great record , nice song...go habs...first post ever..be gentle...memphis joe


Entered at Tue Jun 1 20:45:48 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

David P: The song at the link sounds to me like the Atlanta Rhythm Section meets the Band. Co-written by Colin James and BARK's Colin Linden, with Bark's Tom Wilson figuring heavily in the video.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 20:45:33 CEST 2010 from h-68-164-4-221.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.164.4.221)

Posted by:

Pat B

I see, Steve. The regular NHL season isn't worth watching because it doesn't mean anything. The first three rounds in the East evidently deserve attention, but the Stanley Cup Finals can be mockingly critiqued by watching a minute of replays. Man, that defines the soul of the hockey fan.

btw, if things keep like this, the butt of your jokes is going to be MVP.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 20:29:16 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Bill M: Yes, the lesser & later Royal hit "Cherry Hill Park" was written by Robert Nix and Billy Gilmore, at the time the drummer & bassist in The Candymen. Mr. Nix went on to join the Atlanta Rhythm Section and the late Mr. Gilmore joined the Classic IV. Those of us who got to see The Candymen live, after they split from working with Roy Orbison, fondly recall that group who could rock and handle soulful tunes as well.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 20:20:41 CEST 2010 from 21cust62.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.62)

Posted by:

Steve

Pat, we have this futuristic time-saving thing up here where you can watch just the goals and other worthy moments of interest from sporting matches. They even show some of the action in slow-motion which is pretty cool. Canada, who would have thunk it, eh?

Just think, by this fall, Leighton will be a second or third stringer somewhere and No Not Me will be resting up on the end of the Chicago bench cooling his heels and waiting for his chance to shine in the Western Conference playoffs again.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 20:07:57 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: First-Rate / First Avenue

Joan: If it hadn't been that, it would have been something else. From what I've noticed, husbandry involves always paying dearly for something.

sadavid: Ouch! It pains me greatly to see scratches like that.

gladavid: Thanks heavens for "Down In The Boondocks" - otherwise the mention of Billy Joe Royal would have brought "Cherry Hill Park" to mind. A third-rate "Brown Eyed Girl".

Oh yes, that reminds me of the line, "Playing first-rate music in a second-rate band in a third-rate bar, holding forth to a fifth-rate clientele". Can't recall whcih member of Joe Hall and the Continental Drift delivered in at Grossmans Tavern in Toronto in the late '70s, but it was one of the oversized Quarrington brothers who took up so much of the 'stage' there. Quite likely it was future novelist Paul Quarrington, whose recent passing was noted here a few months ago and who was featured in the weekend paper. Seems that he lived out the final years of his life on First Avenue in Toronto's Riverdale neigbourhood - the same inconsequential street that Robbie Robertson lived with his mother for some years.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 19:47:31 CEST 2010 from pool-74-108-31-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: The Roadster

One of the neat things about my Dad's Roadster was that it had electric windows. That wasn't very common back then. They almost got me killed one day. I was I the back seat when my Dad parked the car. He pushed the "up button' to close all the windows, however my head was still out the window. I ended up screaming with the window in my throat.. Never did that again.

My Dad was a pretty sporty guy. Around when he met my Mom, he had an Essex with yellow spoke wheels and a red stripe down the side. It actually had a rumble seat. Family legend has it that after leaving a dance, he made my Mom ride in the rumble seat while he had some other woman sit upfront. I'm sure he eventually paid dearly for that. :-)


Entered at Tue Jun 1 19:37:08 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: . . . meets the digital age

A little something for all you vinyl retentives . . . .


Entered at Tue Jun 1 19:30:07 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Bill M: Yes, Freddy co-wrote both of those songs with Tommy Roe. Although lightweight tunes, both were big hits.

As I was driving down Peachtree Road in the Brookhaven area of Atlanta not long ago, I remembered the old Master Sound Studios there at Dresden Drive, just north of Lennox Square shopping mall. It's long since gone and a mass transit rail station is located there now, but back in the '60s a great studio was built there in a converted school house. Many great hits were recorded there, including Billy Joe Royal's version of Joe South's "Down In The Boondocks", featuring Freddy Weller on guitar. It was a state-of-the-art studio back then and that particular recording used a cleverly re-purposed septic tank as an echo chamber, giving new meaning to sh**tkicker foot wear favored by the boys down in the boondocks.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 19:19:22 CEST 2010 from h-68-164-4-221.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.164.4.221)

Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, it is reaffirming to see you comment on sporting events you don't watch. No better way to render an opinion.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 18:42:06 CEST 2010 from p4fca9f85.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.159.133)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: I'm Kirk Douglas's son! aka dealing with heklers

Thanks to Peter I just found this "dealing with hecklers' on the WWW. Great read .

This could be an urban myth, but someone spotted David Hasselhoff in London and shouted: "You - you're nothing without your talking car!"

A stage performance of The Diary of Anne Frank was so bad that the arrival of the Germans was greeted with a shout of: "She's in the attic!"

David Baddiel was telling a story about a comedian floundering on stage, when someone shouted: "Nobody likes you. Surely you remember that from school."

Some irritating young buck went to the toilet twice in quick succession at the cinema, walking across the screen. The first time he elicited tuts and sighs. On the second, after he tripped and fell, there was a shout of: "Run, Forrest, run!"

At the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, when the ark was being warehoused, hidden, or whatever, some bright spark shouted: "What was all the fuss about; there's millions of them."

We were sat in the cinema waiting for Revenge of the Sith to start. The standard warning boomed out of the speakers: "Piracy is a crime." A lone pirate voice cried out: "Aaarrrrrrgh!" The whole cinema erupted.

At a London comedy club, a frustrated compere asked an audience member what he did for a living. He responded: "I'm a talent scout for shit comedians."

A blind heckler shouts: "Get off!" at a shit comedian. After a moment's silence, he adds: "Has he gone yet?" suse

Frank Skinner at the Fringe, some years ago, singled out an audience member who answered his mobile phone. "Well, who is it then?" Skinner asked. "A comedian," came the reply.

Bono on stage in Glasgow: "Every time ... I clap my hands ... a child in Africa ... starves to death ..." Glaswegian voice: "Stop fuckin' doing it, then!"

Tom Waits was playing a show a few years ago, one of the first in a long time. When he came on, a lady in yelled out: "Tom, where you been?" He responded without missing a beat: "Hey, I've been around. Where've you been? You still living out by the airport?"

Ryan Adams paying an audience member his ticket fee and making him leave after he shouted out a request for Summer of 69.

At a Radiohead gig, Thom Yorke starts singing Exit Music, just him and his acoustic guitar. Hushed silence. Then the chap in front of me bellows out: "Cheer up, Thom!" After flicking the bird in the general direction of the heckler, Yorke plays the next few bars in the style of George Formby. Class.



Entered at Tue Jun 1 18:21:16 CEST 2010 from 21cust38.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.38)

Posted by:

Steve

Bill, I heard, Dizzy, on the radio the other day for the firt time in decades. I could have easily waited a couple more decades. My head's still spinning.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 18:18:59 CEST 2010 from 21cust38.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.38)

Posted by:

Steve

Pat, fell free to comment on things I don't watch. Permission granted.

You're right I didn't watch, my younger son, Steve The Younger, had a soccer game otherwise I would have watched it. Good to see both goalies turned around their performances from game one where neither could be counted on to stop a beach ball bouncing slowly towards the net.

Hey, No Not Me, even got his GAA down to an almost respectable 3.00 for the final round.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 18:07:27 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Wasn't that Freddy Weller on Tommy Roe's immortal "Dizzy" as well? (We won't even mention "Jam Up And Jelly Tight".)


Entered at Tue Jun 1 17:57:46 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: The Roadmaster

Joan: Back in the '70s Atlanta musician Freddy Weller had a country hit with a song he co-wrote with Spooner Oldham entitled "The Roadmaster", which used the car's name in describing the life of a travelling musician. Gene Clark recorded a slowed-down cover version that didn't come close to Mr. Weller's uptempo driving groove, featuring his great string-bender Tele licks and gear-changing key changes (link above). A former member of Billy Joe Royal's band (he played lead guitar on "Down In The Boondocks") and Paul Revere & the Raiders, Mr. Weller also recorded a fine cover of "Up On Cripple Creek" in 1975.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 16:33:22 CEST 2010 from h-68-164-4-221.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.164.4.221)

Posted by:

Pat B

I'm sure Steve didn't watch last night's game so there's no use commenting on it.

Peter, I saw Girl With The Dragon Tattoo yesterday and was quite impressed. Also happy to see it in Swedish so I could pick up some of the pronunciations. Thanks for the email.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 15:51:38 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: hockey / Stompin' Tom / Sudbury / Tragically Hip / "The Weight"

Westcoaster: Thanks for the link. Fighting starts at 1:04 - about right. For the best of Stompin' Tom, I suggest clicking on the follow-on link (in WC's post or as above) to one of the greatest songs in the Canuckistani Canon - "Sudbury Saturday Night". Looking down the follow-on links on the right you'll see one of the Tragically Hip covering that song. And if you click on that you'll see a follow-on link of the Hip doing "The Weight".

The Tragically Hip is one of two Canadian bands who can be counted on to fill arenas across the country. Rush we share with the world, the Hip we don't, apparently. I was listening to what may be their greatest album, "Truly Completely" the other day, and was thinking about mentioning one of the classic songs thereon, "Fifty Mission Cap", because it's a mythic hockey song:

"Bill Barilko disappeared that summer
He was on a fishing trip
The last goal he ever scored won the Leafs the cup
They didn't win another until 1962
The year he was discovered
I stole this from a hockey card
I keep tucked up under my fifty mission cap"

Their greatest song, "At The Hundredth Meridian" seems worth quoting at length:

"Me debunk an American myth - and take my life in my hands?
At the hundredth meridian, where the great plains begin
At the hundredth meridian, where the great plains begin
Driving down a corduroy road, weeds standing shoulder high
Ferris wheel is rusting off in the distance
At the hundredth meridian, where the great plains begin
Left alone to get gigantic; hard, huge and haunted
A generation so much dumber than its parents came crashing through the window
A raven strains along the line of the road, carrying a muddy, old skull
The wires whistle their approval, off down the distance
At the hundredth meridian, where the great plains begin
I remember, I remember buffalo and I remember Hengelo
It would seem to me I remember every single fucking thing I know
If I die of vanity, promise me, promise me
If they bury me someplace I don't want to be
You'll dig me up and transport me, unceremoniously
Away from the swollen city-breeze, the garbage-bag trees
Whispers of disease and the acts of enormity
And lower me slowly, sadly and properly
Get Ry Cooder to sing my eulogy
At the hundredth meridian, where the great plains begin


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: T' Midlands

Subject: Ollabelle in UK

Sunday's "Observer" had an article about the annual Meltdown Festival at the South Bank in June. Richard Thompson is the guest director this year and Ollabelle are appearing on June 16th and 17th. I can't make either night but maybe they'll be appearing elsewhere. I saw them when they last visited the UK, driving over 150 miles round trip during the working week for one of the best concerts I've seen anywhere... Radar watchers - look out and post if there's more news


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: I'm Brian and so's my wife...

I'd heard the Eric Douglas story before, and my biographer training tells me it breaks one of the key rules: the funnier the story, the less likely to be true. Bur I hope it is!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Spartacus

A.A. Gill reviewed the TV "Spartacus" on Sunday. He describes an incident at the Comedy Store in London. The late Eric Douglas was a would-be stand-up comedian and was having a bad evening performing at the Comedy Store. In desperation, he said "I'm Kirk Douglas's son." Immediately a voice declaimed from the back of the room, "No, I am Kirk Douglas's son." Then one by one the entire audience stood up and shouted in turn "No, I am Kirk Douglas's Son!"

It shows the power of a film scene.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 08:54:47 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Watkins Glen Jam

I was at Reading Record Fair yesterday. No sign of a new Watkins Glen boot. There was a very large bootleg stand with very grubby CDs in badly-photocopied covers and they had about fifty Allman Bros boots but hadn't heard of a new one. They even had Van boots … I've never seen these guys before and didn't like their stuff, nor did the legitimate dealers. It gives fairs a bad name. Another stall had a whole new Basement Tapes series, very attractively packaged. I was only buying old vinyl myself. I saw Rag Mama Rag in good condition in a 50p box and rescued it as i always do with Band singles at low prices even though I have them.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 08:38:21 CEST 2010 from c-76-99-245-65.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (76.99.245.65)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the pond

Subject: The Roadster

Another of life's mysteries revealed in the GB. Until today, all I knew of The Roadster was that Franklin W. Dixon described it being driven by "Chet, the stocky, good-natured boy", loyal friend of the Hardy Boys.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 05:45:27 CEST 2010 from c-59-101-12-67.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.12.67)

Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Thanks Deb: Glad you enjoyed it

jazzmando dot com often has interesting little tidbits like that.... when they are (tangientally) related, I'll post them...


Entered at Tue Jun 1 01:41:56 CEST 2010 from cpe-70-92-156-160.wi.res.rr.com (70.92.156.160)

Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Ahh...music

Kurt Nilsen and Willie!

Stompin' Tom Conners

What a lovely evening of music found on my computer tonight.


Entered at Tue Jun 1 00:01:34 CEST 2010 from blk-224-130-194.eastlink.ca (24.224.130.194)

Posted by:

joe J

Location: Foggy foggy dew

Subject: Nilsen and Nelson

Not bad at all jh, not bad at all.

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