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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, April 2009


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Friend0

Steve, I'm not sure but the timing sounds close. Other bands had whole vans stolen and also just equipment stolen in the last few years too. Locales I'm not remembering, but it has happened a few times of late.

Lurrie Bell is bad. Nick Moss is legit and partnering up with his wife, ahs managed to make a living in the blues business. They have a small label, and release stuff by local Chicago acts. everybidy works at it.

He is well liked by the club owners I know in St Louis. He's a pro, easy to get along with, and delivers the goods with no bullshit. As a result, he and his label acts get booked regularly.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Dixie

Bill, I realized post-post that I had babbled about the wrong Dixie Rd. As I approach my 55th I notice the intervals between my cerebral vapour locks grow shorter and shorter. (I'm hoping I'll soon qualify for one of those special parking permits on the basis of mental impairment).

Naw, I meant Dixie Rd. just east of Dunbarton (village) but still west of Liverpool. (Not the riding stable you alluded to Bonk-great to see you back though !). Just behind the houses that front on to Kingston so SOUTHERN Dixie, which sounds kinda redundant when you think about it - so maybe try not to.

I'm sure the Lazy River Ranch is a subdivision by now.

I read the Rick James article but not in its entirety, as I realized I'd read it before. Where does one find your writings, Bill ? (I trust they're not as deranged as those of Peter Boyd). NB


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: p.s.

note the ‘lucky’ policeman (with bike) before the car hits the monument.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Holland Queens day 2009

Today we celebrate our Queens Birthday in Holland *. This morning as I was working the roof of my new shed my wife shouted “Coffee!” I went inside and my wife turned on Dutch television to watch some of the life coverage of the Queen parade in Apeldoorn. I just sat down too and next we see a car at high speed driving through the people and the fence of the parade, trying to hit the Queens open bus. Dead en injured people all over the place. Last images before I got back to work, a policeman sitting on the pavement crying.

• although I live (just) in Germany now.

link: live footage of the bizarre thing .


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Musical knowledge

I am often amazed at the breadth of musical knowledge some of you folks possess. It keeps me "coming back for more".


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Posted by:

Steve

Jeff, when did the musical equipment theft happen? Could it have been as recent as last summer or possibly the summer before? I remember a band having all their stuff stolen in Montreal, I heard a couple of guys in the band being interviewed. I think someone stole the truck with everything in it. Montreal is the car theft capital of Canada, possibly North America.

They get stolen off the street, packed in a shipping container and sent off to Russia and other distant locations with readily bribed officials where they become legit again.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: The song copies a Paul Burlison riff as I recall from an old Dorsey Burnette song. Can't remember the name but a cover version was included on the Burlison tribute CD "Train Kept A-Rollin'" that featured Levon & Rick.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Ballad Of John And Yoko

By the way, can anyone tell me where that descending Tex-Mex guitar bit that ends the Beatles' "Ballad Of John And Yoko" comes from? An Elvis song? Chuck Berry? Marty Robbins? Soooo familiar.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Vern Gosdin

Thanks for that info David P, rough news indeed.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: BILL M /NB

Hey boys. There was a ranch/riding stable on Finch Ave. that I used to take my Daughter to in the early 80's. I think it was closer to the Bear Road landfill. It had an old Streetcar from Toronto parked in the front yard right on Finch and I believe it was painted green. Hope this helps. B.


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Bill M

NB: The anticipation level continues to rise re the quiz. But with it comes fear. What if it arrives and I still can't pull down/up a memory of the Lazy River Ranch on Dixie Road in Pickering just east of Toronto (which is not the same as the Dixie Road in Mississauga, just west of Toronto, that I referred to yesterday). The only horsey place on Dixie I can recall is the K family property just south of Finch which operated very briefly as the Circle K Ranch I think; just three ponies, one of which I fell off of too many times to keep track of in what remains my only equestrian outing.

Are you sure you're not thinking of Valley Farm Road, not too far up from Sun Valley Park, in whose pool a young Neil Young almost certainly swan in the early '60s? Upstream from that, until the late '60s at least, were two log cabins, an old mill race and the remains of a weir across Duffin's Creek. Not from settler days, but from the filming of the "Last of the Mohicans" TV series in the early '50s. This means I trod the same path as Lon Chaney Jr! I have no idea why, but the MacP family farm a bit farther up VFR frequently hosted 'stars' like Rocky Marciano around then. Local legend had Rocky wowing the assembled multitude by chucking a haybale right over the top of a loaded haywagon.


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David P.

Thanks Mike for the reminder about the anniversary and today's birthdays.

The great country singer Vern Gosdin passed away late Monday night, several weeks after suffering a stroke. With his silky smooth baritone, he became known as "The Voice", in a career that stretched back to working with Chris Hillman in a bluegrass band in the pre-Byrds days. He & his brother Rex, who were from Alabama, worked with Gene Clark on his first solo ablum. The Byrds later recorded "There Must Be Someone", written by Vern, on their Easy Rider album. I recall that Vern lived here in Atlanta for a while and I played occasionally in the early '70s with a bassist/steel guitarist who had worked with him at the time. Vern later established himself as a solo artist and achieved great success in the country charts.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

David: That's a great tune on Dylan's new album. Today marks the 26th anniversary of Muddy's passing.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Together Through Life

Once again Dylan "borrows" from the Muddy Waters songbook on "Together Through Life". The third cut on the new album, "My Wife's Home Town", uses the melody from "I Just Want To Make Love To You", written by the Willie Dixon. Listening to this blues cut, augmented by David Hildago on accordion, I couldn't help but recall Garth's great accordion work on "The Muddy Waters Woodstock Album".


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Friend0

Cut & Pasted form Blueswax.

Nick Moss & Lurrie Bell

A Second Helping At Chan's

By Art Tipaldi

The cliché states, "An hour after eating Chinese food, you're still hungry." An hour after hearing Nick Moss' Live At Chan's, Vol. 1, I'm hungry for more of his Blues. With the release of Live At Chan's: Combo Platter No. 2, Moss has satisfied my yearning. This record was recorded just two weeks after Moss and his band had their van and equipment stolen. Yet, the band, with special guest Lurrie Bell, touched off a two-night, all-you-can-eat, Chicago Blues buffet. Why chose this tiny Chinese restaurant in a town far from Chicago roots? Based in Woonsocket, Rhode Island, Chan's is a Blues anomaly. Instead of Southern folk art on the walls of a faux juke joint or Blues memorabilia scattered throughout a dimly lit saloon, Japanese paper lanterns hang from the ceiling, tiny Christmas lights twinkle above the stage, and Chinese artwork adorns the walls. Inside John Chan's personal Blues territory, a 150-seat, banquet-styled room, there isn't a bad seat anywhere, and, because of the intimate nature of the room, most bands turn the volume down to where audiences can appreciate the musical subtleties. And that ambiance comes through in the 80 minutes of easy interplay between Moss, Bell, and harp master Gerry Hundt.

Art Tipaldi for BluesWax: What made you want to record Volume 2 again at Chan's?

Nick Moss: The last record did very well and I had a lot of fun making it at Chan's. The guys who put it together were all great people to work with. The club is a lot of fun to play. The sound man, Bobby Sloan, has got this great mobile recording truck and a great studio at his place and that makes it come out real good.

BW: Did you try to do anything differently from Volume 1?

NM: The only difference is that we were using all borrowed stuff. That record was literally recorded two weeks after all my equipment was stolen in Montreal. We recorded this whole record on borrowed gear. We did two nights of recording and on Friday night, the bass amp crapped out so we had to rent an amp for Saturday night. Like the first one, everything was off the cuff. It was just play and have a good time. BW: Was there anything you learned from the first live recording that you corrected on this record? NM: The only difference was that Bobby Sloan used a slightly different recording technique. Sonically, I thought the first one sounded great. For a live recording, he got a killer sound. I got a lot of reviews that said how good the musicians and songs were, but sonically, it was a great live record. I didn't want to lose that. Bobby assured me that this one would sound better and he was right. "That record was literally recorded two weeks after all my equipment was stolen in Montreal. We recorded this whole record on borrowed gear." - Nick Moss

BW: What's the experience like when you know that you are recording a live record? Does it hinder you on stage or throw you into the thinking mode?

NM: I think there's a little of that, but for the most part, by the second song I was having so much fun that I totally forgot about the fact we were recording. The crowd was there to have fun, the band was sounding good, there was a little thinking about the fact I was not using my own equipment here and there. I would have been nice to have my own amp, but we made due with what we had.

BW: Was there a best moment that didn't make the record?

NM: On Friday, Ronnie Earl came to our show. I've known him for years. He was a guy I was going to see when I was 17 years old. He was so complimentary about our show. After the first set, he was telling us how great Lurrie and I sounded together. At one time, I asked him if he wanted to get up and play. He wanted to play with me, but I was tired of having my ass kicked onstage by Lurrie, so I told him to play a song with Lurrie. Ronnie played this beautiful instrumental, for about 10 minutes, it was beautiful. Then he handed the solo to Lurrie.

BW: What was the one song on the CD that you knew was a winner the moment you finished playing it?

NM: I would have to say "Five Long Years," with Lurrie singing. When we were done playing those 130 minutes, I was ready to take a break. We were both fuckin' squeezin' hard on that song!

BW: That is 13 minutes of the most transcendent Blues guitar! It's a Blues guitar primer!

NM: When that was over, I smiled about how good it felt. I knew that one was gonna sound good when we played it back.

BW: Lurrie is a true Blues mind who plays in the moment. Tell us what that experience is like.

NM: From the first time I saw Lurrie, when I was 16, I knew that I was hearing something special. People who've never see Lurrie play don't understand the experience. The way he plays is so pure and straight from his heart. Guys like me who are more technically proficient on the guitar don't get what Lurrie has. When a guitarist plays, it goes from his brain to his fingers on the fingerboard. Sometimes you can reroute that to go from your heart to your fingertips. If you can do that 60% of the night, I think you are doing good. I'm always in awe of Lurrie because his guitar work completely bypasses the brain and comes straight from his heart to the fingerboard. You can see when a guitarist is thinking about what they are doing. I never see Lurrie thinking about what he's playing. For me, having Lurrie standing next to me and watching him play puts a smile on my face. There will be a DVD out in the fall of these shows, and you'll see how big my smile is when I'm watching Lurrie play. I was a sideman for many years. I'm more comfortable in a sideman role. I like being front and center, but I'm more at ease backing someone else. I love helping to make them sound as good as possible.

"We two different-colored people,
but when we get up on stage together,
we can identify with each other.
He's sayin' what I need to hear." - Lurrie Bell

BW: Of all your records, what makes this live record with Nick so special?

Lurrie Bell: Since I've been playing these last 30-40 years, I think Nick is one of the young Blues guys I really admire that's playing the Blues. Most of the cats I was brought up with have passed away. There ain't no more cats doin' what I call real Blues. When Nick and me did this record, I said that me and Nick are two guys playing the Blues the way it should be playin'. It was an honor to do this record at Chan's because my dad Carey [Bell] had played there many times. I felt good. It done something to me to know that my father had also played there.

BW: I hear a lot of your dad in your voice, your phrasing, and inflections.

LB: I try to give my father all the love and respect and play my best at all times when it comes to this music. If it wasn't for my dad, I wouldn't be on the road with Nick. He was responsible for me getting the inspiration and the ideas to want to play and perform the Blues for people.

BW: What was the experience of two guitar players, you and Nick, goin' at it onstage at Chan's?

LB: It's a great experience. You feel like this is one of the great moments of your life at that moment. I've always respected Nick since I first heard him. I knew he could play the Blues. I play with so many other cats who ain't sayin' what they're supposed to be sayin'. When me and Nick is tradin' back on solos, that's like we're competing with each other. We two different-colored people, but when we get up on stage together, we can identify with each other. He's sayin' what I need to hear. That's what makes the moment special.

BW: I like what you said, that he's givin' me what I need to hear. What's your favorite moment on the record?

LB: "Five Long Years." I had a chance to meet Eddie Boyd in Europe. That's probably my favorite slow Blues that I do.

BW: As a 40-year veteran of Chicago Blues, what speaks to you more, slow Blues or a faster shuffle?

LB: I would say a slow Blues because I can relax and pay more attention to what I'm doing. I can do what I do best on a slow Blues because I'm saying more from my heart. I'm being more me. I can relate more to the audience with a slow Blues. I swear I never want it to end. I want it to last the whole set!

BW: I love how you totally turn these classic Blues songs inside out and make them brand new, but still keep that deep Chicago Blues feel to them.

Nick Moss: There's people out there I call "record copiers." There's a time and place for that. I've been guilty of copying licks, too, but once I learn the lick, I forget it so that it comes back later, naturally on its own, the way I want to play it.

Jimmy Rogers told me this a long time ago. When I was playing with him, we were sitting in the van. I had a tape of him playing and I asked him if he wanted me to play the second line like Muddy [Waters] was playin' it. He turned the tape off, looked at me, and said, "That was the way Leonard [Chess] wanted it. You're just hearin' one moment in time, that's not how we played it every night. We played it differently every night."


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Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Another One Bites The Dust/ RThe Devil Is Digital , One More Internet Victim

see The Link

Well worth watching the 8 minute video with Henry. Some intersting, Some funny stuff, The Keith Moon part for one.

steve, thank god there were once were real labels. Not to sya there wasn't greed, corruption, and thievery.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Ruthie Foster

I saw her open for Bo Diddley here in Old Virginny a few years ago and I was blown away. I hope to see her again sometime.

I want to go see the Fab Faux in DC on Saturday night but the tickets are really too expensive. I'd pay that for The Beatles but NOT those guys. Sorry Jimmy...


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Posted by:

Peter V

I’ve got the Island single from Planet Waves, On A Night Like This / Forever Young credited to "Bob Dylan & The Band". The next Island single was “It Ain’t Me Babe” in November 1974 according to the ultimate reference guide, “Single File”. That would be the Before The Flood version, and most unusually it doesn’t list the B-side. I've never seen a copy.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Web: My link

Subject: Ruthie Foster

big BIG voice . . . singer, songwriter

contemporary R&B . . . music for grown-ups

"The Phenomenal Ruthie Foster" (2006)

"The Truth According to Ruthie Foster" (2009)

Check it out (see the link)

Band connection? Soulful singing knows no boundaries.


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Posted by:

Steve

This discussion of the modus operandi of the record companies really makes it hard to have any sympathy for them as they continue to lose their grip on the musical money bag.

I heard an author who'd written a book recently on the history of the recorded music biz.

I don't know the history well but he sure made them out to be greedy, bloated and basically their own worst enemy.

He described how when Steve Jobs invited the major label guys into his office and showed them how I-tunes would work they were panicked enough by internet downloading and not imaginative enough to think past lawsuits so they were relieved and quick to get on board not understanding it was basically a way to market his I pods and that Apple was the one who would be the largest beneficiary of the new business model.

I don't know it that is exactly the way it has worked out but he didn't really have much good to say about the major labels at any point in their history during the last 50 years.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Bill M.

If I may paraphrase the Pickering part of your last post, "The Night They Drove Down Old Dixie Road". Do you recall a riding stable on Dixie by the name of the Lazy River Ranch ? It has an obscure music link that I should include in my eternally imminent S. Ontario music quiz. (You pick up these tardy habits living in the same province as Norm). NB


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Before The Flood

Yes Peter and the B-side of the Asylum single of "Most Likely You Go Your Way..." is The Band's "Stage Fright". Was that single released on Island also?


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'd forgotten the Asylum ones. As an addition to that, the singles were on Island in the UK. It IS odd to see "Bob Dylan & The Band" on that great Island label, but I've got one.


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Posted by:

David P.

Peter: A similar situation happened with the two Dylan albums he originally recorded with The Band for Geffen's Asylum label. "Planet Waves" and "Before The Flood" are now part of his Columbia/Sony catalog, which has reissued both twice, the latter coming out again this month. Even rarer are artists such as Ray Charles, Buck Owens, Frank Zappa and George Harrison, who are among the few who were shrewd enough to negotiate contracts where the ownership of their actual recordings reverted back to them.


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Posted by:

Peter V

BTW, what was the story on Paul Simon? He was most unusual in not only switching from CBS to Warner Bros, but getting his solo CBS (Columbia) back catalogue re-issued on Warner Bros too. I heard he'd had a very good contract written, giving a limited term to the original solo deal.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Bill, I imagine Levon was something of a whizz kid with the Dewey Decimal System. That would explain it.

David, the "out of print" thing is (usually) better in book publishing where (with the reputable publishers) rights revert to the author a set period after a book goes out of print. This varies. Some of mine went out of print on an old contract; the publisher thought it was a year, but in a 1970s contract it was actually twelve weeks. This is far fairer. One of the (many) digital problems is that publishers try to retain copyright by keeping something available as Print on Demand. Decent contracts don't attempt to slip that one through, and Authors' groups recommend specifically stating that Print on Demand doesn't count as keeping a book in print.

The same must be happening with iTunes. It is far better to have your record put out of print and have rights returned, than to have a publisher feebly keep a few copies in the warehouse without promoting it.


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David P.

In my previous post, I meant to say that the methods of the more respected labels seemed superficially less heavy-handed, but nonetheless achieved some of the same results as Levy's more notorious business practices.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks - I'm happy to take your word for the library being in Woodstock. Though that does make me wonder why Robbie didn't just drive himself to town, or ask Dominique for a lift. Given he'd lived in Woodstock considerably longer and had displayed a stronger interest in books, I'm sure Robbie didn't need help in navigating the Dewey Decimal System.

Anyway, a Tale of Two Libraries montage seems in order - showing the one at the end of First Avenue and the one in Woodstock.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The large print giveth and the small print taketh away...

While Morris Levy's business practices became known as "The Lullaby of Gangland"*, many respected labels used similar methods, albeit superficially less-handed, to take maximum advantage of their recording artists. Their weapon of choice was the fountain pen, allowing them, through the intricacies of contractual fine print, to maintain, in polite terms, a dominant position over their artists. For example, the labels would set up subsidiary companies that controlled the publishing & booking of their artists, as well as deducting recording & other costs from the net fees that trickled down to the artists. In simple terms, the labels took a big slice of the top of any gross earned.

Steve: Since Levy eventually sold Roulette and the licensing rights to the catalog are now controlled by other companies, who knows whether any of the artists receive significant royalties from reissues. There are even more strange things going on in the music business nowadays in the age of digital downloads. Several groups have recently sued the major labels where they used to record over the continued practice of deducting certain amounts for such things as breakage & packaging, originally associated with vinyl records, from the money collected from digital downloads.

Then there is the problem faced by many artists who's work in currently out-of-print. I know of one local group who tried to buy back the rights to their recordings from the major label they were signed to long ago, so they could release their music independently. The former label played hard-ball by demanding a six-figure fee and the music remains unavailable in limbo.

*"Lullaby of Gangland" -- see the chapter on Morris Levy in Fredic Danner's excellent book "Hit Men".


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: You ask a good question re signing with Roulette. Many of the people who wound up on the label seem to have signed initially with a smaller company that would up in Levy's tender paws. I'd sure like to know what tooks someone as able and as seasoned as Henry Glover there though. (Of course, it was probably best for our guys that he WAS there.)


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Peter V

Subject: Basement remasters

I thought the quote was about driving down to the library in Woodstock … or did my memory add that.

For UK readers, HMV has Before The Flood remaster and the Basement Tapes remaster at £8 each. Not bad for a double album. I've only listened to the Basement remaster in the car so far, but I thought the Dylan tracks sounded a lot better than previously, The Band ones had few surprises. That might be because they popped up as bonus tracks on the CD remasters and A Musical History so I'm used to improvement. On the other hand, some Dylanologists suggested that the quality level of The Band tracks were deliberately toned down and muffled so that they sounded basement rather than studio. As they've appeared in cleaned up form elsewhere, that might be why the Dylan ones sound very cleaned up in comparison.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Klaus Voormann

Thanks Mike for the Klaus Voormann link. I listen to him almost every day in George Harrison's BANGLA DESH concert LP while cooking Indian curry. It is perfect for hangover with migraine. Russian cucumbers are doing miracle, too.


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Bill M

Is there a photo somewhere of the library (in Arkansas?) that Levon and Robbie visited so's the latter could research the details of TNTDODD?

Speaking of Levon's driving, it occurred to me a couple weeks ago when passing through Newtonville, a town east of Toronto where the Tysons had their farm in the '70s, that the Highway 2 mentioned in "Live A Long Long Time To Get Old" on the Great Speckled Bird album is the same road as "the Lakeshore" that Levon famously has he and his cohorts driving along on their way to the big bust at the airport at Malton. (Though they probably would have taken Brown's Line north to get from the Lakeshore to the airport, I'd prefer to think they took the alternative route because of its name, Dixie Road.)


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Posted by:

Steve

David, does that mean when songs attributed to Levon were put on collections in 1990 and 1995 Levon would or wouldn't get some royalties or is that too hard to figure out?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Martin Barre

JTF: If you're still around, you might like the above story about the Penny Peeps. (Now THAT's a crap name!)

And anyone else with a slight interest in the Toronto scene of the '60s might check out the Rick James story at the same site.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: I believe it was late '66 when Hendix went to England at the behest of Chas Chandler (former Animals bassist), who'd "discovered" Hendrix playing in New York. There he signed with Track Records in the U.K., a sub of Polydor run by The Who's managers, and with Reprise in the U.S.

Steve: Many of Roulette's artists did indeed eventually leave and signed with other labels, including Ronnie Hawkins. Roulette also absorbed other labels, such as Roost, adding to their roster of jazz artists.

Since Levy controlled the publishing company, I don't really think it mattered much as to how many songwriters were credited, as royalties, if any, actually realized by the writers had to trickle down from the top.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Calvin: Thanks for the response re the sepia-toned Kinks albums. I wasn't thinking quite as far back as the two albums you mentioned, though.

Peter V: Doesn't Bill Wyman's book date the Hammond Red Bird session as '66, right after Robertson returned from Dylan's Eurotour? Given that Robbie'd recorded with Hammond in '65 and was hustled by Hammond into the studio almost as soon as he'd gotten off the plane from London, it's a reasonable deduction that they liked each other's playing; I wonder if they recorded anything else? And where does Hendrix come in, chronologically. He and Hammond played together in the Blue Fames around that time. Plus he was in and out of the Starlighters, another Roulette act as Peter V mentioned - and one that Henry Glover produced too.

Re Roulette writing credits, while it's understandable that Morris Levy would have used his associates' names rather than his own on plundered writing credits, I wonder why he'd complexify thinks by using two or three rather than just one - why Magill-Hawkins-Robertson when Magill should have sufficed? Was it because he wanted to be covered if a particular associate flew the coop, squealed to the police or died in an unfortunate accident (or some combination of the above)? Or was it because certain other parties were in on the scam to some greater or lesser extent?


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Posted by:

Steve

Sadavid, looks like a gangsta musical.

So, did anyone re-sign with Roulette once they achieved a little success, or was this a label of last resort?


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

And what's with this??


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: You Can't Catch Me

Morris Levy also got the upper hand on John Lennon over the song "Come Together", but that's a long story for another time.

In the MIX magazine interview that Peter cited, Robbie also described what Ronnie Hawkins said when he questioned how Morris Levy stole credit on his songs. The Hawk responded, "Well, son, there are certain things in this business we just don't question and it's better for all concerned to just accept."

Before he got involved in Roulette Records, Levy ran some nightclubs in New York, with reputed mob ties, including the legendary Birdland. Through this experience he got a first-hand lesson in how publishing & songwriting credits are the gifts that keep on giving. That happened one day when an ASCAP representative came by to collect their licensing fees for live music performed at club. After consulting with his lawyer over how the system worked, Levy started his own publishing company, Patricia, through which he basically stole credits from the artists who performed songs at his nightclub. When he later joined the partnership that started Roulette, he expanded the template to include artists signed to the label, which he soon bought outright.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Didn't Levy claim to own the term "Rock and Roll" at one time?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, Hesh Rabkin in the Sopranos is said to be based closely on Morris Levy, the founder of Roulette Records, and Mafia member Corky Vastola, who promoted Roulette Records.

This has all appeared here before,

Robbie Robertson described his early experience with Levy (interviewed by Blair Jackson, Mix Magazine, March 1998).

It was 1960. He’d just had his first two compositions recorded by Ronnie Hawkins and saw the album, Mr Dynamite:

ROBBIE ROBERTSON: 'Wow! I've got songs on an album!' I'm really cherishing the moment. I open the record slowly and I'm savoring the scent of the vinyl and I look on the label and I see the song titles and I see my songs there, and under the songs it says, 'Robbie Robertson and Morris Levy.' And so I say to Ronnie, 'Who the hell is Morris Levy and what is his name doing on these songs I wrote?' And Ronnie says in his southern accent, 'Well, son, there are certain things in this business we just don't question and it's better for all concerned to just accept.' Ronnie took me up to Roulette Records to meet my 'songwriting partner,' Morris Levy. We go into his office and Ronnie introduces me as his young guitar player and songwriter who he thinks has great 'potential' as he calls it. And Morris Levy looks at me and says, 'Yeah, he's a cute kid. I bet you don't know whether to hire him or f---- him.' And I'm thinking, 'Whaaaat? What is with this guy?' And I look around his office and he's got these guys in there with these tight dark suits on; they're packing heat or something. Two things became apparent to me immediately. One was that the Cosa Nostra was not a myth. And number two, that I would forego my comments.”

Roulette became a major rack jobber and distributor with its own pressing plants. Levy was also said to be a major pirate. Sharon Osborne, who worked for her dad, Don Arden, promoting Jet Records in the USA, has described Levy's habit of pressing many more records than he ever accounted for in distribution deals, and alleges that pirates. i.e. straight illegal copies of records on other printed labels, emerged from Roulette's pressing facilities.

So to answer your question, I'd assume everyone connected to Roulette got screwed in one way or another. BUT they were the source of some superb rock. Not just Ronnie, but Joey Dee & The Starliters, Tommy James & The Shondells.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Today Grammy-winning multi-talented artist Klaus Voormann turns 70. He not only played bass for Manfred Mann, but also penned the Beatles Revolver album cover art.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, do you know if all Roulette artists were treated this way, as far as credits go, or was this just the way new artists needing a way to break into the recording industry were treated?

As far as learning the credit ropes, a la Roulette, Levon and J2Rs seemed to learn different lessons. Levon from the artist's side and J2Rs from management's.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: You Cheated, You lied

Ben, in the early days of the site and GB, I spent some time researching this song. What follows is the mini-article that grew out of it. I've posted it before, but I don't think it's in the library.

Levon “wrote” three tracks on "Mr Dynamo", his credits including You Cheated (You Lied), which had been a US # 12 hit for The Shields in the Fall of 1958 (initially Tender, then Dot 15805) Jesse Belvin put together this group, including Johnny ‘Guitar’ Watson’, Mel Williams and Charlie Wright, and sang falsetto. Frank Ervin sang lead. The Shields were covering an earlier release by a Texas group, The Slades, on Domino which got to #42 (CD now on Dee Jay Jamboree, CD55002). It was also covered by The Del-Vikings on Mercury. The Shields version is on Forever Doo Wop! Volume 2 (Kenwest KNEWCD 739), credited as ‘The Sheilds’ (sic).

However, composer credits are to ‘Burch’ on this release. It is also on The Doo Wop Box and The Golden Age of American Rock ‘n’ Roll Volume 5 (Ace CDCHD 600).

Golden Age of American Rock ‘n’ Roll Volume 5 says it was put together in 1955 (which must be wrong) by George Motola who decided to cover the hit by The Slades (this hit was in 1958). He was so anxious to cover this Texan hit that he guaranteed sales of 2000 copies. The Shields had been a studio group, and the name was deliberately chosen to cause confusion. This is backed up by Ace Records information. To add to the complications (I’ve mentioned The Suedes, The Slades and The Shields) The Slades had originally been called The Spades until someone objected.

There was also an answer disc, I Cheated, credited to Burch, and sung by Joyce Harris (and backed by The Slades). Both The Slades version and the cover disc are on The Domino Story (Ace CDCHD 506, 1998).

The Rolling Stone review of the 1969 re-issue of the Hawkins album says that it was ‘later (sic) a number 1 hit for The Shields’. The reviewer was Griel Marcus, who should know, but he was pretty far off the mark with his comment:

‘Think about this. Levon Helm reached more people with more impact with You Cheated than the Band has with Music From Big Pink. ‘ Ho Hmm.

The Shangri-Las later recorded You Cheated (You Lied), and credited it to Helm. It can be found on several compilations e.g. The definitive remastered collection Myrmidons of Melodrama (RPM 136) (1995) and The Shangri-Las 16 Greatest Hits (Sweet 16. CD12008) (1990). The original recording was on Red Bird in 1965, and there are references to The Hawks doing recordings with Red Bird in 1965 with John Hammond Jnr.

The story behind these credits took some research. I’m indebted to Bill Millar for clearing it all up. It seems that the song was indeed written by Don Burch, the lead singer of The Slades, and published by Balconer Music, as was The Shields version. The Roulette versions, credited to Levon Helm, are published by Patricia Music, a company named after Roulette boss Maurice Levy’s wife. Roulette was a mob company and they put names, real or non-existent, on composer credits in case there was any money in it. Bill Millar points out that songs by Larry Williams, Billy Emerson and Young Jesse may have been credited to Hawkins-MacGill, let alone 40 Days; and that You Cheated was credited to Helm.

Incidentally, Ronnie Hawkins has said he doesn’t know even who MacGill was. Whatever… the money would have gone to Roulette and Levy rather than Levon. In another example outright gangster Gaetano Vartela received song credits as a payment for services rendered.

You Cheated had never sounded like a Helm song, and I’d wondered for years why he’d never followed this Ruben and The Jets-like alley.

Magill was Jacqueline Magill, Levy’s “secretary” ( girlfriend). She gets co-credits on 13 songs on the first two albums.

The way this reflects on the credit issue with The Band, is that from a very young age, Levon was taught that credits are (a) things you don't get paid for … it's a safe bet he never was (b) things which are horse-traded rather than the product of individual burning of the midnight lamp.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levon on '09 compilation album.

"White Dove" is included on this album to promote "Record Store Day."


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: New Dylan album.

We just picked up the album (w/ dvd, etc) & after 1st listen it's quite cool. It has some southern flavor & Dylan's occasional growly voice works.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Peter V, Bob W

Peter:A long day at work so sorry for delay. Thanks for the response. You always give time and I appreciate it, like many others on the GB. The wilkpedia entry is good, but I don't know that tune. There may be a Scottish version. Thanks. Have you bought Solid Air yet?

Bob W: I never was a soldier and I admire their bravery. I hope everything goes well for your boy. Take care, Mate.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: writing credits

So I'm glancing at the credits on my (excellent) Shandgri-las best of CD, and I see a track called "You Cheated, You Lied", credited to Levon Helm. A little Googling leads me to the Band room's take on Ronnie Hawkins "Mr. Dynamo" album, and the contention that Levon didn't really write the song at all but it was some sort of payment for something else, or something. Peter, can you shed any light on this? It is certainly foreshadowing of the credit battles to come!


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks Joan, I'll probably pick up the new Dylan album after reading the review. Brien, to you as well for the Dead article yesterday.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan's new album

From the Daily Beast by Sean Wilentz


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Nils Bohlin

In 1959 Volvo engineer Nils Bohlin invented the three-point safety belt. Till now he saved more than a million lives.


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Posted by:

Justin

Location: edmonton
Web: My link

Subject: band

hey, great page!! can i put a plug on your page??? we are a new upcoming band and would really appreciate some voters from this site. this link will take you to a page with our much, just hit vote, real easy. thanks for the help!! -Justin http://underground.alpine-usa.com/RocktheDash/promotion.php?bid=656


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Don't Step on Greta Garbo

Calvin.......reading your first two paragraphs - some might think that you have inadvertently made a case for linkage to the Band.....people leaving for short spells....leadership/spokesmen changes......dictatorships in the later years?....Hmm......


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Posted by:

Calvin

My personal theory Peter is that the only person Ray Davies ever listened to was Peter Quaife. I dont think its coincidence the Kinks may a huge turn in style of music during the short time Pete quit the group the first time. Sure he came back for 2 1/2 years after John Dalton was injured, but it was firmly Ray's group at that point and the others, even Mick and Dave were players.

Listen to some old the early interviews, Pete was the spokesman for the group in the early days. His leaving the group changed the group from a band to a dictatorship. And I love Ray, but he is what he is-a perfectionist who wants things done his way. I heard him once say the Kinks ceased to exist when Pete left, I think that is very true.

I can't say why poetry flurished during WW1, but it isn't that odd for Grad schools to have WW1 poetry classes, and their are several books on the subject-you really cant say that about many other wars, if any.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Plochmann Lane" blog now on "Twitter"

Gotta keep up w/ the virtual times!


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: 'Why, mister,' he smiled, 'He ain't heavy; he's my brother'

....dated September 1924, the article speaks of Fulkerson's inspiring encounter with "a spindly and physically weak lad" carrying a baby and "staggering towards a neighboring park".....

" 'Pretty big load for such a small kid' I said as I met him. 'Why, mister,' he smiled, 'He ain't heavy; he's my brother.' "


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Wisdom that grows up in strife...

Lest we not forget the Southern poet Henry Timrod, somewhat obscure but known in literary circles as the "laureate of the Confederacy". When Dylan released his "Modern Times" album in 2006, it was pointed out that he apparently "borrowed" several lines from the not-so-modern Timrod's poems. Yesterday, Georgia and two other Southern states observed Confederate Memorial Day. Fittingly, one of Timrod's most famous poems was entitled "Ode Sung on the Occasion of Decorating the Graves of the Confederate Dead at Magnolia Cemetery, Charleston, South Carolina 1867".


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: WW3

WW1 - Poetry ...WW2 - Literature ...WW3 - Twitteresque mumbo jumbo...........


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Posted by:

Steve

Interesting how so much of the writing by WW1 vets was poetry as opposed to literature written by WW2 vets which leaned more heavily towards prose. Probably something to do with the importance placed on reading and writing poetry in schools throughout the British Empire in particular but in other countries as well in the late 1800's and early 1900's.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: King Harvest has surely come again...

A new album from Levon & friends on the way. Garth sitting in with various artists, including Neko Case & BeauSoleil. Talk of Robbie recording again. Quality CD reissues of "The Basement Tapes" and "Before The Flood". New audiophile CD versions and LP reissues of the first two Band albums. Music is in the air.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Calvin, I just switched on the computer after listening to a BBC Radio Four discussion on the Village Green. I agree … the Kinks influences are all pre-Band. I don't think Ray Davies listened to his contemporaries that much.


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Posted by:

Calvin

As much as I love seeing the Band influence everywhere Bill, there really isnt any case the Band influenced the Kinks "Sepia Toned" albums. Face to Face and Something Else were released before the Band's first album and VGPS a few months after. And while VGPS put the era in full flower for Ray where he was going is all over the place in the two album's before the Band hit. Ray's direction though had a lot more to do with English Musical Hall, more to do with the music his dad played-there isnt a bit of Americana in those efforts.

As for war songs, I enjoyed someone bringing up Randal Jarret-different wars bring different sort of poetry. WW 1 Poetry being by far the best-the rock era anti-war poetry is more about anger than tragedy.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Muddy Waters "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bob, I went back and looked but couldn't find the Dylan post you say you were taking Dylan to task for. I didn't find any post by Dylan saying he'd borrowed the melody, all I found was Peter's post followed instantly by yours. Since your post ends with a question mark I assumed you were asking a question of Peter whose post you seemed to be having a problem with.Unless, of course, you're saying, Dylan, sometimes post here under the name PETER V.

If that's the case I think that might be an infringement of the rules and you should bring it to jh's attention toute suite.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan CD Review

Link above is for a review of the new Dylan Cd.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Patriot Game / With God On Our Side

Dunc, Wikipedia's entry seems pretty good. The melody is based on "One Morning in May" (or "The Merry Month of May" according to Wikipedia). Wikipedia has a lot about Dominic Behan's attacks on Dylan for "nicking" the tune. While it can be argued that the tune was public domain, Behan was particularly incensed that Dylan had also taken the theme … but it's not that close, in my eyes. Maybe a "mood" is all he took from the words. It's a long, long way from being a rewrite, which is what Behan thought it was.

It's used in the hilarious play "The Lieutenant of Inishmore" which reads it as I do, as a song on the futility of getting killed at 17 for a cause. Reading Wikipedia, and the bit about the changed verse by the Clancy Brothers, it looks as if Behan did not intend it to be against armed struggle at all, but that's the impression the plaintive Clancy version gave me, and the play agrees. Liam Clancy has mentioned that Dylan hung around them a great deal in New York, which is why I'd see them as the conduit of these older Irish songs. I love The Clancy Brothers version of this and The Parting Glass, but am ambivalent about the album. It's all very well shouting "Three cheers for the bold IRA" and singing 1920s songs to a wealthy Irish-American audience at Carnegie Hall, but then the plate went round afterwards in a mood of sentimentality and the cash ended up being used for plastic explosives and weapons to kill innocent people. I can't imagine that was their intent, but it was the result.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Caine Investments (Gillian Caine) is still attempting to sell 8850 Evanview, the house where John Simon & The Band record the "Brown" album. The house was restored in '08 to be more eco-friendly. Sale price is $4.9+ mill.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Thank you, Dunc. It is very kind of you to ask.

Chris is back in San Diego until May 6 when he comes home to be married. Soon after, he will return to Camp Pendleton and await his deployment to Afghanistan scheduled for some time this summer. I'm hoping and praying that won't be the story but that's what he has recently been told.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Make that "Acapulco." You can tell I've never been there, just heard the song...


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Goin' Down to Aculpulco?

I guess between the ongoing drug war and the current swine flu epidemic one could get some cheap air fares and hotel rooms in Mexico right now. I'm not going, though. I'd stick with Canada if I had a vaction and wish I could be there right now since we're already getting record-breaking temps in the 90s the last few days. Yuck...


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: War Songs

I think 'Galveston' and 'Loch Lomond' are great anti war songs. Again, you've to think about them carefully. I better stop posting. P.S. Dlew is right. Eric Bogle's song is great.

Eric bogle's song is brilliant.

Every day I pass soldiers going to their work in Glasgow and say hello. Then they're away to Iraq or Afghanistan. You've got to admire them.

Hope everything is well with your son Bob W.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: John Brown

I would have 'John Brown' as a great anti war song. Last time I saw Dylan he played this with THE ORIGINAL TUNE. Great.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Apology, Peter V

Sorry Peter missed your earlier post. I'm intrigued and I know this. What was the original song that inspired Dominic Behan? I can't remember this to google.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: With God on Our Side

With God on Our Side is too derivative to be the greatest war song. It's just too derivative of Dominic Behan's 'The Patriot Game', a rebel song.

He in turn got the tune from another old song, which I've heard, perhaps Scottish, but I can't remember.

Dylan would have heard the Clancys and Tommy Makem and the Scottish singer, Jean Redpath sing it.

Google You Tube 'The Patriot Song' and you'll see what I mean.

My favourite anti war song is TNTDODD, because it's subtle.

My favourite band is The Band and my favourite solo act is Dylan, who I'm going to see on Saturday.

Albums I'm playing just now are 'Oh Mercy' and 'Islands'. Some really great songs. I think we should all revisit 'Islands'.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: That was the only time that song has been played live (I think) and so I can overlook the choir. Are you not glad the Band did not live long enough to have found themselves in that dreadful place of having to sing “The Weight” backed by some sort of Choir??? MTV unplugged is please to present The Band backed by………………Ahh………hide the scissors Moly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As to Bruce Cockburn and rock operas………….funny….perhaps the thought came to him in that coffeehouse all those years ago while watching The Knack work up a version of “My Sharona”……………I know I know not the same Knack…….the more I think about it the more I realize just how brilliant the name “The Band” was/is


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Kevin J: The choir seems overkill, especially when used behind a line like "Gone are the lavatories in the backyard".

Since Ray Davies mentions writing what woulda been the first rock opera, you might check the link for yet another mention of Bruce Cockburn.


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Posted by:

Steve

And of course, like the Kinks, The Band were a band of brothers.

Sorry Bob, it looked like you were correcting Peter's incorrect take on the use of the terms, borrowing vs stealing. I must have missed Dylan's post. I'll go back now and look for it.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Shangri-La - The Kinks & The Band

Another connection between the Kinks and The Band..........See Link


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Posted by:

David P.

Both the Kinks and The Band were inducted into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame in their first year of eligibility, 1990 and 1994 respectively.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kristie: A case could be made that those sepia-toned albums that the Kinks did in the late '60s and early '70s were British reflections of the first two Band albums. At a more concrete level, the pianist in Robbie Lane and the Disciples when they were first hired by Ronnie Hawkins to sub for the Hawks when they went out on their own was Marty Fisher, who would later move to England to be in Mapleoak with original Kink Peter Quaife. (In between he was in one, two or three bands with Bruce Cockburn, depending on how you choose to count them - the Mynah Birds, the Flying Circus, Olivus.)


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: The Kinks & The Band

Kristie…………Arthur is one of the great albums released during the same year as the Brown album……other than that……. the fact that Ray, Robbie and Rick all had some separation between their front teeth or that each band included songwriters that would rank in the top 5 in rock history……….


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Great link Kevin

I had forgotten about that song-now I am listening to The Kinks....are there any connections between The Band and The Kinks?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Anti-War Songs

For me...the the most powerfull anti-war song was the Kinks "Some Mothers Son" - see Link above


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "The Hawk's" "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Morning Dlew: Your mention of Waltzing Matilda reminded me that last weekend I picked up Slim Dusty's mercifully truncated version of that song - on an unfortunate album called something like "Aussie Sing Song with Slim Dusty and the Bushlanders". With one exception it's something like 15 medleys of three or four traditional Australian folk songs each, intended to inspire listeners to sing along too. The exception is a full version of "Pub With No Beer". Seems to date from 1970, as there's a Cap'n Cook's 200th sticker on the corner.

Joe J: Noting the phallicity of Big Pink is hardly news. Hell, I've been calling for years for AC/DC to do a Band tribute and call it "Sink the Big Pink". There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that our guys called the house "the big pink" precisely for sexual reasons, though not necessarily male - keeping in mind Carrie Fisher's title, "Surrender the Pink" (I think it was). Is there any point in mentioning your co-provincials, the Great Big C?

JQ: Are you saying that Jeannie C was the backside of Dallas? I thought that was George W?

Steve: Donovan's cover of "Universal Soldier" is my favourite version too, perhaps because it was the first one I heard - in class at Frenchman's Bay Public School, so '67 or '68. Hearing "Canada" mentioned at all in a pop song, never mind first in the list, was a real thrill at the time. Anyway, that reminds me a bit of the Ghomeshi / Bruce Cockburn interview last week, where Bruce talks about his elementary school teacher in the '50 telling her class about the terrors of McCarthyism and her hope that everyone in the class grows up to be a "radical". I hope she lived long enough to hear Cockburn's political songs.

Peter V: Good of you to swallow your reservations and mention "Where Have All The Flowers Gone", which I suspect was an enormous inspiration to a generation of folkies - not just the political content but because of its structure. While Joni Mitchell's early classics like "Urge For Going", "Both Sides Now" don't pan in a circle like WHATFG, they do involve camerawork - notably pulling back to focus a bigger 'thing'. I suspect the Collectors' "Looking At A Baby" (a big hit here in 1967) was modelled on same.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Lyndon Johnson told the nation have no fear of escalation...

My list of anti-war songs would also include Tom Paxton's "Lyndon Johnson Told The Nation", Pete Seeger's "Waist Deep In The Big Muddy" and Edwin Starr's "War".

The Neville Brothers version of "With God On Our Side" was included on their 1989 "Yellow Moon" album, produced by Daniel Lanois. It also included covers of Dylan's "Ballad of Hollis Brown" and Sam Cooke's "A Change Is Gonna Come".


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Posted by:

bob w.

In your infinite wisdom you've once again missed the point. It was nothing resembling a shot at Peter. It was a shot at Dylan.

Are you off your medication?


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Posted by:

Steve

Bob, you're terse posting style could be spiffed up a little with some catchy intros in the Subject Line. Maybe try something that might lead one of those infotainer news casts. Here's one for your most recent shot at Peter.

"Uncle Sham ( AKA The Admiral) Launches Pete Seeking Missile!" Just trying to be helpful, as always. Please, no poison emails, my Uncle Sham-Spam filters are still at the cleaners after your last salvo. Maybe I shouldn't have divulged that, damn.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Subject: Dead Review

The Dead got together to play Madison Square Garden. The link is to the review of the show.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, while I've heard Buffy's version of Universal Soldier dozens of times on the radio I don't think I've heard Donovan's version, ever. I wasn't even aware of his version til you mentioned it.


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Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Jeff

Thanks for that great link. I agree wholeheartedly with 90% of it. Some of it is beyond profound - that quote from Nora guthrie. My only quibble would be that Garth Brooks has a marketing degree, so would seem to be part of the problem, but I don't know enough about him (and he might have subverted the whole thing.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Must Read Mellencamp

Mellencamp on music biz. Alot of this sounds very familiar to me.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Bob ///Sauget

Dylan, willie Nelson & Mellencamp touring together. Tour begins July 2nd in Sauget Illinois.Right across the river from St Louis, on the way to east st louis. Sauget is the Home of Pop's nightclub, PTs tittie bar, and countless oil refineries and other toxic dumps. Pat- have you ever played at Pop's?

Sauget ain't big, that's for sure. The pollution probably outweighs the population.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the pond

I've gotta emphasize, GREASY !


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the Turtle Pond

Subject: random reactions

Charlie Y: I had no idea that Louis Gossett was involved in writing "Handsome Johnny"! Peter V: I'm a hard core Nevilles/ Funky Meters/ George Porter, Zigaboo Modeliste, et al, fan, and had no idea that The Neville Brothers recorded "With God on Our Side"! (on what album?). Roz: saw yer post and initially thought it was Zevon. JQ: nice mention of Jeannie C. Riley... Levon's current band occasionally dishes up a tasty, greasy instrumental version of "Harper Valley PTA".


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Anti-War Songs

John Lennon once famously said "all Beatles' songs are anti-war songs" and he wrote one which has become timeless in "Give Peace a Chance."

Another interesting anti-war song was the one the orginal 1969 Woodstock Festival opening act Richie Havens opened his set with, "Handsome Johnny," co-written by Mr. Havens and actor Lou Gossett, Jr.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: What a difference 40 yrs makes.

Watching the Isle of Wight '08 on the HD channel Palladia. Highlights includes KT Tunstall, NERD & washed up versions of old bands. Nothing compared to Dylan, The Band & Hendrix:).


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Posted by:

bob w.

With no compensation(?) and no way of "returning" the melody, is it possible the melody might be a bit more "stolen" than "borrowed"?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Patriot Game …

Dylan borrowed the melody for With God On Our Side, and the original The Patriot Game is also a great anti-war song. Dylan used two (older) melodies from The Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem In Person At Carnegie Hall LP (Patriot Game and Parting Glass, which became Restless Farewell). I'm sure he'd claim earlier exposure than the Clancy's popular versions, but he was around The Clancy Brothers a lot at the time, and their influence is huge, especially in melody.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: The Big Pink Interview

Me either.

I believe the phallic interpretation is rather new.

Don't be complaining about the heat Lars. We've got snow in the forecast.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Clinton Heylin's new Dylan book about his songwriting.

So many authors describe can claim to be Dylanologists. It is all too often that writers read way too deep into Bob Dylan's songwriting (it goes for many other artists as well). It appears the well respected Dylanologist author Clinton Heylin may be on that same traditionally exhaustive path. We feel that although Dylan was an amazing songwriter, he should not be over analyzed. As Dylan author Bob Spitz wrote in his book Dylan, Dylan often wrote about his love affairs & signs of the times on crude items such as napkins &/or whipped out the tunes in the studio during recording. He frequently struggled w/ completing his tunes & changes the lyrics & endings when he revisits them live. Our friend May Wogan of Ireland operates a wonderful blog called Visions of Dylan & she recently posted about this new Heylin book called Revolution in the Air, The Songs of Bob Dylan 1957-1973. Mary provides her readers four separate book reviews.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Poems and songs from the great wars

I go for this one:

"The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner"
by Randall Jarrell

"From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from the dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose."

See link above for technical details.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Minstrel Boy

The minstrel boy to the war is gone

in the ranks of death you will find him …

Not a particularly great lyric, but the tune is so poignant it lifts it to the ranks of best anti-war songs. Dylan would have known it from The Clancy Brothers version first, I expect.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Universal Soldier

Buffy Sainte-Marie wrote it, I knew that, but I would say in the UK at least about 99.99% are (unfortunately) more familiar with Donovan's "take" on the song.

On the EP of Universal Soldier, Donovan gives us this though on the sleevet:

I’ve seen bewildered rambling streams of blood on black skin

I’ve seen V-Bombers growing in a field of insulated grass

Hmm … and then you think, yes, indeed, it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall. Those Masters of War they keep dropping Hard Rain on every f*cker. Then it gets blowing around in the wind, and I have no time to play my tambourine. So hey, darlin' Tangerine Eyes, play that song for me.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: War tunes

Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Russian Roulette. I prefer the Moving Hearts' version. That group was the Cream of plugged-in Irish Trad. Davey Spillane soars on the Uillean pipes on this one. It was written by the northwest's own Jim Page, although I think Christy Moore may have added a verse on the Moving Hearts' version.


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Posted by:

Steve

That is pretty funny Peter. Are you being serious? Of course we don't have to stoop to Donovan's version with Buffy's available. Certainly an example of a cover NOT being better than the original.

Lar's it's called climate change. We had 90 degres here yesterday afternoon, as well.

A better almost constant reminder that the climate has changed, with the latest significant door we passed through being in 1998, is the increase strength in winds. When you have a lot of large buildings with tin roofs you're well aware of the wind.

With just the slight increase in average air temperatures here the air now holds more moisture and even though the rainfall hasn't increased significantly yet, we get more showers and lots more cloud.

The reduced sunshine last summer caused crops ( hay and grain) to drop in protein to the point the hay wasn't much more nutritious than saw dust. Same with the locally grown grains. The cows got thin over the winter no matter how much feed we gave them.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: (late-ish) 60's girl singers

Jeannie C Riley (try Back Side Of Dallas), Bobbie Gentry & Sandy Posey.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Universal Soldier

Steve, yes, but on the other hand, it's performed by the guy who said to Bob Dylan, "Listen to my new song" and then played "Hey darlin' Tangerine eyes, Play A Song For Me" and didn't understand why everyone was laughing.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Country Joe & The Fish

Argh! We forgot "I Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die Rag", not only one of the best anti-war songs, but one of the best-timed.

Melodically, "For What It's Worth" beats all-comers, but is it anti-war or anti-heavy policing?


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: We'll all go down together...

A different viewpoint on war: Billy Joel's "Goodnight Saigon."

Most poignant seen about war in a movie: "Saving Private Ryan;" when a car drives up the farm driveway and the mother of the house is doing dishes at the sink, watching the car stop in front of her house. With four of her sons serving in the Army during WW2, she watches an Army officer and a minister get out of the car. She walks out on the porch and collapses as they walk towards her. She's about to be notified that three of her sons have been killed in action.

This is really a grim topic. Here in upstate NY we have summer temperatures (85 F. right now) but the breeze makes it very pleasant. Yesterday was close to 90 degrees and felt much worse. Last week it felt like winter. Whatever happened to Spring? The trees are still bare, but the buds are out and the leaves are starting to appear as small green clusters throughout the tree crowns. Soon the woods will resemble a jungle and our house will be hidden in the the middle. It's a good time of year.


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Posted by:

Friend0

While i'm still not compiling any lists, Fortunate Son is a great anti war song.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Best Anti-War Song ?

You're all missing the obvious ! It's Randy Newman's "Political Science", if for nothing other than the immortal lyrics:

"We'll save Australia,

Don't wanna hurt no dlew,

We'll build an all-American amusement park there,

They got surfin' too"

Couldn't resist. Sorry. NB


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Posted by:

Kristie

Web: My link

Dlew-Your question lead me to this website.

The two mentioned by Joan, by Phil Ochs, were also the first two I thought of.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, while you seem to really like, With God On Our Side, at least as much as I do, Universal Soldier, probably says all that needs to be said about war, in a song. As far as anti-war songs go I rank it #1.

If we limit the selection to this decade's songs I'd put John Fogerty's Deja Vu( All Over Again)in the #1 spot.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Anti war songs

Two from Phil Ochs: I ain't marching anymore and Draft Dodger Rag.

Country Joe and the Fish: 1,2,3,4,I ain't fighting any more. (Not sure what the name actually is.)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Girl Singers and 60s TV

Last night BBC4 were showing “Queens of British Pop” in which they had sixties shows from Cilla Black, Sandie Shaw and Lulu. You forget that it was obligatory for all girl singers to have their own TV shows immediately following their second hit. Cilla, in an A-line mini dress far too short to look right, had to contend with what the old showbiz promoters who ran TV wanted. So after starting with Step Inside Love, and duetting with Georgie Fame, she sang “Oh,You Are a Mucky Kid” then gave way to Tom Ward, a comedian in top hat, tails and cigarette, pretending to be a drunk, before coming back to announce Dusty Springfield. Dusty had black chiffon flares the size of tents, each leg bigger than a ballgown and flouncier, was draped in gold tassels, and sang a signature soul-influenced song, before proving (as everyone had to) that she could sing “seriously good” songs by doing Second Time Around. Seriously good meant jazzy, middle aged, must have been done by Frank Sinatra, with an Andy Williams version as a bonus point. To add insult to injury, Dusty and Cilla then had to don dirty macs and duet on“If You’re Ever (Friendship)” as if they were Morecambe and Wise to prove they were All Round Entertainers (caps). Duets were compulsory on all such shows, and Friendship was in the Top Four with We’re A Couple of Swells, Sisters and Singin’ in The Rain. This was followed by two Goodies and a future Python doing an excruciatingly bad racist sketch about Japanese wrestlers. Then Cilla finished off with Going Out of My Head, hitting material suited to her for the first time in the evening. I had no stamina left for Sandie and Lulu. Such TV shows were why Cher has far less “cred” in the USA than in the UK. We never saw her TV shows so simply rate her as a singer.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Anti-war songs?

Not counting The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down

1) With God On Our Side - Neville Brothers

2) Blowin' In The Wind - Bob Dylan

3) With God On Our Side - Bob Dylan

4) Masters of War - Bob Dylan

5) Where Have All The Flowers Gone -Peter Paul & Mary NOT the Pete Seeger version ever, definitely, not under any circumstances

6) With God On Our Side - Manfred Mann

Then there are some really poor ones like Donovan on Universal Soldier. Actually, Eve of Destruction is something of a favourite, There must be fifty sixties ones I haven't remembered.

Incidentally, I saw a near-mint "Little Boxes" by Pete Seeger at a Record Fair yesterday in the 50p box. I bought it because it is so typical of its time, much as I loathe it.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "TLW" "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Steve

Dlew, your mention of the stupidest blunders in WW1 has to include sending The Royal Newfoundland Regiment, alone, across open land during the Battle of The Somme at Beaumont Hamel on the first day of that battle.

The RNR suffered 90% casualties in 20 minutes. Only 68 of 780 men were available for role call the following day. The RNR also fought at Gallipoli earlier in the war.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: thanks for all the comments, and it led me to thiking...

Best anti-war songs?:

I've given one, and I'd throw in TNTDODD... what else?


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Posted by:

jh

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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Dlew/Roz

Dlew-Great post!

Nice to see your name again Roz.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Ros

Nice to hear from you. Hope you are OK.


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Posted by:

rosalind

"I don't wanna die like James Agee
In the back of some taxi
On the run
With so much time wasted, the feast of life just tasted
Then it's gone
But the life that he was livin' and the gift that he was givin'
Were all one
But the bad comes with the good
The madness and the love
It's all or none

I don't wanna end up like Terry Malloy
In a cab carryin' on about how it's gone
How he coulda been a contender and people would remember what he'd done
But there's fights that you don't take
And there's nights when you break and you run
You just do what you can do and answer to who ya have to
when it's done

But Take That Ride
Cause we fly tomorrow
To the other side if we make it through tonight
Truth or lies
Beg, steal or borrow and we'll follow as the road goes... out of sight

I don't wanna die like Hank Williams
In the back of some rented lim-o-zine
Driftin' through the night
So far from the light that he had seen
But this road that we been ridin'
Looks a lot like the road that he was on
Just a lost and lonesome highway
That some still take to find.....
Their way home."

~~ R. B. Morris ~~


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Bob & Steve

Bob & Steve please both climb down, find the common ground and build from there.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bob, I invite you to check the % of the viewing public in your country ( they are YOUR PUBLIC broadcasters, jeez the things I have to tell you)that get their information from infotainment networks vs public broadcasters. The percentage will mirror the public ignorance level on most matters of true importance.

Lars, I find myself interested in your Civil War for much the same reason, as well as the fact it is the earliest well documented historical event with photographs. The photos really are priceless.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Gallipoli

Louis de Bernieres novel "Birds Without Wings" has a long segment on the Gallipoli campaign (seen from the Turkish side). We discussed this once before, but there was an impression that ANZAC and Welsh regiments took a disproportionate share of the brunt and subsequent casualties. That was certainly the view of my Welsh maternal grandfather who survived it.


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Rachel from Flahrida

Thank you for the kind words. Much appreciated.


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Posted by:

Ilkka's Dog

Location: ... just behind your back, closer than you think...

Subject: Cheesecake Bay Foundation... or whatever

Oh, c'mon Bob my friend, not even this ;-))))))))))))))


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, there are over a quarter of a million members combined in the two associations I linked. You act like this PBS special just discovered the issue. Did you just discover public television? Your ability to state the obvious is astounding.

And what is this "your country" bullshit? I'm sure Canada has more than it's share of issues you could be working on. Why not hit the local swap meet this weekend and pick yourself up a more current set of encyclopedias to complement that dial up system you are laboring with?

What's next Steve, that pesky sunrise problem?


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Deep in the woods of NY

Subject: Waltzing Matilda

DLEW- That was a lethal dose. From what I've read about Gallipoli, the Aussies never had a chance against the entrenched Turks & their machine guns. The poor soldiers had a choice: go over the top and be mowed down with their comrades, or be shot by the file closers.

I don't like reading or watching anything about the slaughter of people in the middle of battle. Yet, for some odd reason, I'm attracted to the comeraderie of the soldiers and their love for each other. Stories of the American Civil War, where many of the officers had close friends on the other side, have a fascination for me because the best tales (for me) are the ones such as when a commanding officer ordered his troops to hold their fire as the C.O. recognized his old West Point roomate riding his horse along the front of the enemy line, trying to instill courage in his troops. Custer did this for Gen. Tom Rosser in 1864. Afterwards, he sent a note through the lines, "Tam (a nickname), don't expose yourself so. I could have killed you today."

Of course, such an act was an exception and men killed the enemy whenever they had the chance. I choose to close out the reality of war and try to find the only good thing that can come from it: the bond between the soldiers. There are a lot of things I don't want to know about and a few things I'm trying to forget. I still find it incredible that a human being is capable of killing another human being. I'm also feeling pretty bad today because the Red Sox beat the Yankees last night. Mariano just can't come up with the final out against those guys. But as Rick used to say, "Keep on the sunny side." .....Maybe the Yanks will come back today.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Dlew

Thank you for that very excellent history lesson. I imagine your students enjoy your class. The music was very moving. A testament to the waste of war,

Some years ago there was an excellent movie called "Gallipoli"


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Posted by:

Steve

Dlew, along with the people who died, we should remember the people who sent them to fight, though not in the same way. There should be a list of " War Criminals" dedicated to to the real criminals who start these wars.

Calling Gallipoli one of the stupidest blunders of WW1 is saying something since it was a war replete with pompous morons in both political and military leadership roles.

Correction Bob, there has been a small, completely dedicated group of people trying to save the bay. The problem is that there is an incredibly large number of people who don't care enough to pay attention. A group that probably receives their " news" from the infotainment networks who are in sympathy with their fellow mega businesses who are destroying the Bay and the rest of the planet. If more people watched PBS or listened to NPR in your country we'd have a chance. Now there's a positive suggestion BOB. Gonna take it?


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, you've never seen a point you couldn't miss. There have been many, many people for many, many years trying to save the bay. Whether or not they will be successful remains to be seen.

I couldn't care any less about how long it takes you to open a page with your dial up service. Point your sorry ass negativity in another direction. You are just another bitch and moan type with no solutions ever offered. It's boring.


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Posted by:

David P.

Peter: I picked up one Record Store Day release, a nice 2-EP set from My Morning Jacket. Appropriately, it was recorded live at a promotion at their favorite record store.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: ANZAC day

In the spirit of Empty Now (music link at the end, and above)

Although the national day of Australia is officially Australia Day, Jan 26, there is a loud cohort who states that Anzac Day, April 25 is the real national day.

Anzac day commemorates the day that thousands of young Australian and New Zealanders (part of the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps - hence ANZAC) landed at the Turkish beach at Gallipoli, in one of the stupidest blunders of World War I. 1915 was the year, Ap. 25 the day.

What most Australians seem sadly ignorant of is:

1) The ANZACs were only part of a larger operation, which included troops from Britain (who I think had the largest casualties, France, India, Italy adn several other countries

2) It was a humiliating defeat (younger people particulalry think we won, thil they go to Turkey)

3) The Turkish army had recently modernised, adn was more than a match.

4) The forces had no chance of winning, and even if they did win, no way of achiveing the larger war aims, which was to fight through Turkey to behind the German lines in Europe and cut them off. The troops got about 800 metres into Turkey. Eight Hundred Metres.

Because Gallipoli was the first time the recently federated country of Australia 'served in battle', adn lost a shocking number of men, it is considered the day Australia became a nation. Pedants, like me, who point out that this is more likely done through legislation (the Constitiution of Australia Act, 1901, or to be realy pedantic, the Statute of Westminster, 1932) can safely be ignored.

Gallipoli gave Australia this now much abused idea of 'mateship': of course, it had been around, but the journalist C E W Bean essentially saw the qualities he admired in the bush being repeated at Gallipoli. For more, see the Official History of The WAr, by Bean, plus 'Along the Tucker Track'.

The lasting Australian image of gallipoli is really 'Simpson and the Donkey' - Australia's greatest military heroes are medical people. No one knows quite why (we've had plenty of hard killers who won many medals...) but Simpson's legend Australians have great regard for Kemal Ataturk, who after the war told Australian mothers 'Your sons are our sons now, adn they are being looked after', referring to war dead. (that quote's not quite accurate, but it will do.)

The last point I want to make, is that I believe the greatest anti-War song is 'And the Band Played Waltzing Matilida', written by Eric Bogle, with it's chilling last lines

And the young people ask, what are they marching for?

And I ask myself the same question

(Those of you with a dramatic bent might check out 'The one day of the year' by the Australian playwright Alan Seymour. /n I've linked to 'And the Band played Waltzing Matilda' by Eric bogle. Some fo you may know other versions, I think most notably by the Pogues, but christy moore, and joan baez have also done versions...

Sorry to bore you - that's what the scroll bar is for. Should you click on the link, it might be a good opportunity to remember soldiers of all countries, sent off to far-flung countries, for often litle to no gain.


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Posted by:

Steve

Web: My link

BOB W, I'm guessing by your lack of a reply( and we know you're there)that either there is no recovery worth mentioning in Chesapeake Bay or just as likely you've posted another MY LINK you actually haven't read yourself. Carry ON As Before!

NORTHER BOY, OH BOY, I've included the link above for you and Peter but mostly for you since you and I share such an intense interest in proper grammar.

If you have 8 minutes and 53 seconds to spare and are up for the educational experience, go to the segment titled, Stunk and Whit-Less.


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Posted by:

Peter V

David, I missed it, but last Saturday was "Record Store Day" in Britain, with several 7 inch single vinyl special issues at participating stores. Most were in runs of 500 copies only, and I met a guy who lined up and waited for the store to open … and got Leonard Cohen's "The Future" live. It was a 2008 US show, not the O2 show recently released and a "Limited Edition". Several artists contributed tracks for issues, but they were mainly newer bands. The idea was to support independent stores.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Legit "The Paul Butterfield Blues Band" "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Vinyl Siding

Just in and spinning on my turntable this weekend is the vinyl version of Dylan's new album. This great double (180-g) LP set also includes a CD version on the album!


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Cathy Richardson...and the Chesapeake Bay

Pat: I envy your history with Ms. Richardson. She's quite gifted.

Speaking of the Chesapeake Bay: I helped a tiny bit with a project a few years ago called "Songs of the Chesapeake Bay," an anthology of songs on one CD relating to the bay in some way and raising money toward cleaning it up. The disc is still available at the Voices of the Chesapeake Bay site.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Orcacide

Steve the U.S. military is just putting all the killer whales to death to put them out of their misery. Misery brought on by Victoria, BC's practice of dumping all of its untreated sewage straight into the whales' habitat. This practice is probably still going on today but was certainly the case well into the 80's (forgive me this bit of fleeting factualness). I believe Seattle only allows pellet woodstoves unlike Vancouver and the rest of BC., and in general terms I believe there's a stronger green movement in Washington state than here in BC. Hopefully they'll prevail against the military but those guys have better weapons, so not likely. There's areas of enlightenment and ignorance on both sides of the border, I'd say. NB (PS. Can Celine D. be fined for noise pollution ?)


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Posted by:

Pat B

Adam, the song "Islands" was an early Bearsville experiment with a drum machine that never got lyrics. It was resurrected for the Islands record. Its original title was Dr. Medicine Song.


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Posted by:

Rachel

Location: Florida

Subject: This site

I just wanted to tell the creators of this site that it is gold. I've never found a more comprehensive and detailed site about my favorite group of all time. Thanks so much for helping to spread the word about the woefully underappreciated Band!


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Posted by:

Rachel

Location: Flahrida

Subject: This site

I just wanted to tell the creators of this site that it is gold. I've never found a more comprehensive and detailed site about my favorite group of all time. Thanks so much for helping to spread the word about the woefully underappreciated Band!


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Merlefest

Does anyone know if there will be a live audio stream from Merlefest this year? Last year MVY Radio had a webcast of a lot of the acts.


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Posted by:

Steve

Can't argue with you there, Kevin. Sure seems like the gutless wonders in flashy duds slither their way to the top.

Bob, I'm assuming that you posted those links at my instigation, if so could you give me a brief synopsis of the positive effects those groups have had on the bay I'd be much obliged.

I ask this because even though the farm is on autopilot it still manages to take up 12 hours of my day at this time of year and you already know that my computer will take almost as long to open those pages.

In the PBS program, which I highly recommend for anyone having trouble believing what's going on in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, the environmentalists, marine biologists and other researchers who've been working at this for as long as 30 years were thoroughly depressed by their attempts to drum up support to change the situation. So were the fishermen, some of who's ancestors have been fishing the Bay for centuries and see that way of life ending with their generation. as an example, oyster harvests are down app.50% from just last year.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Though it's 100% British, the book by Graham Jones "Last Shop Standing: Whatever Happened to Record Shops?" looks interesting. The author is a rep for Proper Records (which are seen in quantities in independents), and describes lots of British shops and also has fascinating bits on hyping / chart fixing and comments on the general death of the recorded music industry.


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Posted by:

Pat B

The unfortunate reality about the Chesapeake Bay is that it is the final stop before the ocean for rivers running from the state of New York all the way down to southern Virginia. As much as the people around the Chesapeake work to stop its degradation, the hundreds of rivers that feed into it continue to kill it.

The Gulf's dead zones are the result of fertilizer and pesticides washing off farm soil and floating down the Mississippi.

Charlie Y, Cathy Richardson is a real sweetheart. She's from Chicago, and long ago I played in a band with her and worked on some of her early CD's. She's moved to San Francisco and she deserves all the luck in the world.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Jesse Winchester

Jesse Winchester has just released a fine new album "Love Filling Station" (Appleseed Recordings). This is his first studio album in a decade and features some of the finest work of his career. See above link for details.

Peter: One of my local independent record stores (yes they carry vinyl, CDs & music DVDs) has a deal with a small independent book store, which supplies a nice selection of music-related books.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Steve

Fast forward many years and the tragedy is that the Spandex Boy's eventually ended up running the world!!


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Chesapeake Bay Program.......founded 1983.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Location: ye gods....
Web: My link

Subject: 12 awful tribute albums

erm....


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Chesapeake Bay Foundation......founded 1967. CBF has grown to more than 200,505 members and 160 full time staff.


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, what do you think it says about us that it will take "political will" to do what it takes to save ourselves and the planet we live on.

The PBS program on the death of Chesapeake illustrated pretty clearly that the majority of the people living around the bay or in the watershed that drains into couldn't be motivated to take action, politically, to save the bay.

The other body of water covered in the program talked about the killer whale population in Puget Sound that are now dying at 10% per year, they should be gone in less than 20 years. They contain so much PCB's in their bodies they are considered floating toxic waste. The majority of the PCB's are coming from Boeing's military production plant in the watershed. Boeing has been fighting the EPA over the clean up for more than a decade.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Revolution in the Air: The Songs of Bob Dylan 1957-1973

Clinton Heylin’s Revolution in the Air: The Songs of Bob Dylan 1957-1973 has just been published. I supported my local bookseller at £20 and was galled to see it on amazon.co.uk at £12.80. But if you don’t do that sometimes, the bookshop will go the way of the record shop.

Note the dates. It takes in Blonde on Blonde, The Basement Tapes and Planet Waves with an essay on each song in chronological order of when it was written. I looked through Planet Waves and The Basement tapes first (obviously) and I found it long on chronology and short on lyrical insight, and I found the inevitable note of when a song was first played live by Dylan of between little and no interest. Little interest if it was with The Band, zero interest if it was played later. Michael Gray is the man to read if you like the lyrics rather than arguing which song was written before or after which song. But it’s a new book by a major Dylanologist with many Band references. A lot are like Richard Manuel’s quote about Tears of Rage, oft repeated.


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: "Islands" material from 1972

On Wikipedia, it says that "Islands" consists of material dating back to 1972. Is this simply a mistake on their part, or does anyone know if this is true? Do the liner notes to the reissue say anything about the dates?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Landmark performed an absolutely ingenuous reworking of the lyrics to The Weight.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Flatulent Cattle That Rattle the Walls...

For some reason, Peter's line about flatulent cattle made me make the above awful twisting of the words to "It Makes No Difference." Has there ever been a thread here of parody versions of lyrics to songs by The Band? "Chest Fever" alone could have endless variations.

Last night I went to a sadly underattended concert by David Grisman playing along with Paul Kantner and members of his Starship touring band including the remarkable singer Cathy Richardson and other talented musicians including David Freiberg of Quicksilver Messenger Service fame. The setlist leaned heavily toward Jefferson AIRPLANE classics given new spark when Cathy Richardson ably handled the Grace Slick vocals and Mr. Grisman added brilliant electric mandolin florishes. There were some noteworthy instrumentals, folkie classics and lots of great moments through two sets and encores. It's just too bad more people didn't show up for it.


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Posted by:

Steve

Yes, NB, we're in reHab at the moment, but as Leaf fans are well aware, actually aware of more than any other pro team in North America, the sooner you're out the sooner you start looking forward to next year.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Dylan:The 30th Anniversary Concert Celebration DVD

Just listening again to all YouTube's Dylan 30th Anniversary Concert gigs. I'll buy the DVD, it's close to TLW (he should have taken Scorsese).


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Bill M

Bill M-I will indeed be heading back up the mountain in about a month. I will be there for five months and then on to South America for four months to volunteer and do some climbing. I sure will miss all the useful info I get in the Gb though! It is really hard to find people who like to talk(or write, in this case) about The Band, or even music in general. At least, not to the extent I do.

I asked the question about whether or not Levon sang harmony on "Nuevo Laredo" on Doug Sahm's Facebook page(not sure who is running that one, perhaps a son as well?). And no answer...oh, well. Maybe I could ask on Levon's Gb.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Bill M. Thanks. Your second post made the first one clearer for me. Thinking's not always my strong point. (NG and I used to live on St. Clair but a little further west).

Friendo: Musn't overlook "Tugnutjob" either.

Steve: Thanks for your "quick comeback" re: Habs. I really wasn't expecting it till the middle of next week, or possibly early May. Your promptness is appreciated. NB


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Thanks for the video link (What's new)

Thanks for the video link, Mr. Hoiberg. It is not every day I can see videos with Linux and "Eldräven"! (Which, of course, is not their fault.)


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Bridge names

When I was in High School, they began adding a lower level to the George Washington Bridge. It was planned for when they built George. The bridge was about 4 miles from my house. Well, the kids at my school began calling the lower level "The Martha Washington" because Martha was under George. Totally adolescent humor ("dirty dirty")but one of the DJs in the area picked it up and began using it in the traffic reports. "Traffic heavy on the George and Martha, etc. We would just crack up every time he did that. I think someone finally clued him in because he stopped.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, when Marge and I did the Lachine Rapids raft ride we were not part of a large group that had registered together so we ended up on a raft with all the people who arrived in ones and twos.

All of the other rafts were groups of 10 or 12 people who'd signed up for rafts of their own.

There was one very impressive looking group of 20 to 30 year old guys, all very muscular, fit and outfitted in identical Spandex and ready for action. They were actually doing stretching exercises as we waited for the operators of the rafting business to seat us in our in rafts.

We ended up with an varied group of rafters ranging in age from mid-teens to 50ish types, both men and women. The only instructions we got that I remember were to keep paddling when in the fast water and to keep our feet under the straps on the floor.

As they released our raft in the middle of the river we ended up right behind the Spandex Squad.

I don't know how well you remember the rapids but as I remember it there were a lot of small rapids just before you hit this one huge one where you felt like your raft dropped about somewhere between 5 to 10 feet and then you went through a series of medium size ones before exiting into fast smooth water.

Just as the raft of Spandex hit the first big drop they panicked, pulled in their paddles and they all tried to get into the center of their raft.

This was happening just in front of us so we got to watch it happen close up.

Their raft turned sideways( which doesn't happen if you follow the KEEP PADDLING instruction)then it hit the big drop and turned upside down. We ended up bashing into a couple of the Spandex Bodies as they resurfaced. They were the only raft to flip over. The Spandex Possee was very, very subdued on the bus ride back to the to the starting point.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Let us not forget the obvious.

Tuggy.

Tuggy The Tugster.

Lots of flexibility in that title.

Either Tuggy or Tugster can be used independently.

Sadavid. TugJob / TugNut. Everytime i see some moron standing on the street holding his crotch I'm tempted to yell, Hey TugNut. But i refrain cause i'd probably get shot or stabbed. Or worse stomped by twenty punks.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

NB: The sad news is that Peter Boyd almost never plays anywhere, and certainly not at the Scaramouche, which is a terribly fancy restaurant near Avenue Road and St Clair. I just thought that if you turned up there and slipped him twenty bucks he might go fetch a copy of "Beulah Land" from the car. But be sure to refer to him as the sommelier rather than the wine-buyer. Or you might scroll down to near the bottom of the link above, and find what seems to be his email address. Definitely worth the effort if you wind up with the CD.

Tonight CBC radio 2 is playing Leonard Cohen's hour-long interview with Jian Ghomeshi - 5:00-6:00 Eastern. Yesterday was Bruce Cockburn; Tuesday was Gordon Lightfoot. Both worth a listen - and apparently downloadable somewhere at cbc.ca

Kristie: Sorry, I have no idea. Are you heading back up the mountain soon?


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Peter Boyd/Beulah Land

Bill M. I'd certainly check out any live musical act on your say-so, Bill. And if doing so would be the only way to nab a really high calibre CD, then so be it. I don't know if you've ever flown Westjet, but they're known for constantly cracking jokes over the PA., not all of which are totally corny. They recently emailed me saying I was being credited with a one-way flight to Toronto, due to a three-hour delay I experienced recently. (big deal, I just left my house 3 hours later.) The email came on the morning of APRIL 1. I had to phone them to confirm it wasn't an April Fool's gag cuz it should smelled like one. No, it was l00% legit but they were amused both by my call and by the timing of their own email. So, I'll definitely be back in TO in the summer courtesy of Westjet, and open to all and any musical suggestions you may have. NB


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Posted by:

westcoaster - alias - tugman - alias tugster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I don't know who I am!

Sadavid! Tugjob?........you criminal! don't mess with my name.

Hello Aussie David, how are those beautiful young children of yours? I'm away for a few days here right now...later.

Lars, I got your e, and replied, hope you got it. I hope I'm back before the end of next week. Susan was up to the local hospital on Tuesday, (it's pretty new) and got her first injection here of that stuff she has to take for arthritis. She's still in a lot of pain, so I hope it starts working for her soon.

Y'all keep on rockin' and keep the music pure. The BAND will prevail!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Corky the Circus Boy

Later became a Monkee. But on corks and flatulent cattle I worry about whether it will work. I've tried it after chicken vindaloo with broccoli and beans (washed down with beer) and I found a cork ineffective.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: trad

joe j: I'm glad you didn't mention to Peter V about the roster for this year's Newport Folk Festival (see [My link]). The McGarrigles did an absolutely charming (of course) version of "Little Boxes" - paroles en français, même - as theme music for season something of the _Weeds_ TV series. I found it on youtube.

I'm glad no one said 'tugjob.'


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Posted by:

Steve

Joe, no I didn't remember yesterday, but I did remember on April(4), 20, at 4:20. Joe , the answer was 1, of course. Michael Ryder. Sorry NB, snooze, you lose.

Lars, sorry, forgot to mention if you get those steaks from someone who raises beef on grass/hay, as we do, as opposed to corn, soybeans and barley, then you can keep your cork in your pocket. Go a little further in your methane production in cattle research and get back to us on what you find on the difference of producing beef with forage crops like them 10,000,000 beefaloos were munching on when we Europeans arrived, vs high energy( hot) feed like grain. Inquiring minds want to know. It's important to know the subject before you start passing out the corks.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: PS Kristie...

I have no idea. As usual.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Signs Everywhere

Our local legislature just passed a long overdue bill designed to put an end to a highway signage problem. It was getting ugly in what we've been promoting as unspoiled wilderness. Gov't will begin removal of most signs on July first. No word on who has the contract though.

Peter, I heard 'Little Boxes' on the car radio yesterday. Couldn't resist singing along. Also heard Johnny Cash's scary 'We're You There When They Crucified My Lord'. I just listened to that one.

Steve, didya remember at 4:20 yesterday? No, wait, it was Turn off the Lights Day wasn't it?



Entered at Thu Apr 23 12:49:11 CEST 2009 from 21cust85.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.85)

Posted by:

Steve

Northern Boy, you should say, the Canadiens will win as many playoff games this year as Toronto has won in the last 5 years. Hey NB, how many Newfies ( apologies to Joe) does it take to knock the Canadiens out of the playoffs?

Norm, I guess I have to remind you, Admiral Bob ( Ret), is the go to guy when projecting CD sales but you can put me down for one.

David, if you'd like to understand a little more about Somali, contact the Admiral (Ret)he's now somewhat educated on the matter. Calling Somalia, " a so called country" is bordering on something nasty don't you think?

Jan, thanks for the action on Northern Quebec, but I don't think it was recorded up north, at least that would be my guess.

Kevin, Mulroney is a scumbag, no argument there, but if you want to know why the guy was voted Greenest PM, do a little investigating into the reason for the decrease in the levels of acidity in the rain falling here now, and how that has effected aquatic life in many lakes here and in the northeast US, as compared to before his work on the agreement with the US coal burning industry. There's also been a steep decline in the "top down" death of millions of Sugar Maples that scientists had argued was being caused by acid rain flowing from the Ohio Valley into Northern NE, South Eastern Ontario and Quebec.

Then of course there is the Montreal Protocol, the international agreement to remove CFC's from use. CFC's were chewing large holes in the ozone layer. Mulroney's gov't was the one that took the lead in bringing other countries together to hammer out what scientists call the most important and successful international agreement on atmospheric pollution to date.

There is good reason to have awarded Mulroney the Green Jersey, actually I can't think of a world leader that deserves it more, even today. Now, would I leave my wallet on the table if he was in the room? That's another question.

Lars, you still enjoying those thick, juicy sirloins in front of the fireplace from time to time?

Very observant, as usual, Simon.


Entered at Thu Apr 23 11:39:34 CEST 2009 from c-61-68-51-152.hay.connect.net.au (61.68.51.152)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Signs, Signs, Look at those signs... and HEY WESTY! or THE TUGSTER!!!

The number of times they've tried to name a bridge after someone here, or a road, and yet, the ANZAC bridge (not such an odious name (more on that on Saturday)) remains the Glebe Island Bridge. The stupidest names here are sportsmen bridges, usually just before they get done on some form of illegal activity... and then in 10 years, it's 'who?'

Hey Westo! How are you mate?


Entered at Thu Apr 23 08:33:47 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Morning Rant

Joan … signs are a curse, beloved of town planners as they are. I hate naming roads or bridges or buildings after politicians. The joke road name in Britain is “Nelson Mandela Way” and they really exist everywhere. Then you get blocks of old people’s apartments named after some corrupt local politico whose brother-in-law got the building contract, so you have “Nigel T. Rottenborough House,” a name which shouts “social housing.”

Poole, where I live, joins directly onto Bournemouth and as so often you can’t see the joins. So a few years ago Bournemouth erected large elaborate signs on every little road that crossed the boundary and Poole followed by doing the same facing the other way. Ten years ago they said it was £4000 per sign. No doubt someone’s brother-in-law got the contract.

Even worse is “twinning” so Bournemouth has signs all over listing the three or four towns it’s “twinned” with (or “quadrupleted with). One in Switzerland, one in Hungary, one Israel, from memory. This is just an excuse for parties of politicians from towns to make annual visits to their twin, stay in big hotels and have lots of dinners. I’d ban “twinning” of towns tomorrow morning.

Then you get dumb signs saying “Oxbridge is a Nuclear-Free Zone” in many towns. It’s all mess and ugliness ans wasted money. So I’d be a Triborough Bridge voter if I lived there. Marilyn Monroe Bridge would be a better name, as she was laid by both criminals and politicians, which is true of most bridges and roads in our cities!


Entered at Thu Apr 23 06:45:39 CEST 2009 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Tugster

That's not bad Jeff. I was a little worried Lorne would be pissed off at me. He was flattered, but you are right.

I'm away to the bunk, we got to get up early and leave in the morning.........later gang.


Entered at Thu Apr 23 05:49:41 CEST 2009 from adsl-76-202-242-109.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net (76.202.242.109)

Posted by:

Pat B

Steve is unfortunately correct about the demise of the Chesapeake Bay. Over 40% of it is a dead zone, and the various nautical industries--crabbing, fishing, etc--have practically ceased to exist. However, it doesn't rival the growing dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico, the Pacific, or the Black Sea. They are salvageable but it will take much political will.


Entered at Thu Apr 23 05:34:16 CEST 2009 from cache-mtc-ad10.proxy.aol.com (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

Friend0

Westo, to prepare yourself for the inevitable, unfortuante separation from the Westcoaster vessel, you could change your monikker now. Tugman, being your brother's Cd title and all, well, it's a good start, but really, that's Lorne's.

Tugster.

Yep, that'll do it.



Entered at Thu Apr 23 05:00:17 CEST 2009 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Tugman

Just before I leave, I had neglected to say, if you look at Lorne's web page, it's interesting to read the "reviews" of his work.

In particular, one from a guy in Manchester, Massachusetts, a magazine, called, "Tugbits". The fellow's review, and how he came to hear about it, is interesting, (to us at least).


Entered at Thu Apr 23 04:43:42 CEST 2009 from cache-dtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

Friend0

well landy, but Dave drew first, got to see them in Finnochio's in atlanta , possibly even with Al Kooper.

Joan, I'm with ya, i;m still pissed they changed the name of the interboro parkway to the jackie robinson parkwway. Robinson was a great man, but the friggin parkway been there with that name forever. I don't go for changing names of streets, bridges, parkways, etc etc. They changed about 3 or 4 major avenues names in East New York (a part of Brooklyn ) a few years back when i wasn't here. It has me all fucked up getting around

Why East New York is in Brooklyn and West New York is in New Jersey, don't ask me either,. But it never was a problem cause noone decided to change the names. As long as tehy leave em where they are, everything will be fine.


Entered at Thu Apr 23 04:09:24 CEST 2009 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Rita Coolidge

I didn't get to stay at home and enjoy and re&re time too much. Away to work again tomorrow.

I remember a few years back, I think it was Charlie Young and I were discussing Rita. I had gone in a thrift store and found an album of hers, that is great. While putting the stuff back in it's places today, I ran across it. What a gorgeous lady, and talented.

Just the other night, I was watching, "Pat Garret & Billy The Kid", with her, and Kris, and Bob D and that gang. Never get tired of that old flick.

Y'all take care. LARS! I hope you got my new e. Give me a holler when you got a bit of time. I've even talked Susan into coming out yer way with me!


Entered at Thu Apr 23 03:15:26 CEST 2009 from host86-148-202-112.range86-148.btcentralplus.com (86.148.202.112)

Posted by:

Simon

Steve - You said you were "relaying the info" given on a PBS program and I'm wondering why you can't intermittently provide links to at least some of what you post. I remember you saying recently that you were still not on broadband but does that actually hinder you from ever posting a relevant link and then following it up with comments and/or asking what everyone else thinks? To me, it's starting to look as if some of this stuff is thrown in to wind people up. Also I could do without having to read smarmy nicknames for regular posters. You tend do that and run with it for a while then kind of discard it when you get bored. Then there's the subtle piss-taking re. other posters' religious beliefs ... especially when that's not the subject being discussed. All a bit unnecessary. Carry on regardless, though.


Entered at Thu Apr 23 02:03:31 CEST 2009 from s0106001c109f95ec.vc.shawcable.net (24.83.168.217)

Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: ?

Did I stump the GB? Peter/ Bill M, do you guys know if it is Levon singing on the Doug Sahm track? Somebody must know....?


Entered at Thu Apr 23 01:47:49 CEST 2009 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Westcoaster????????

Jan! Of course you can Jan. I'm the westcoaster, 'cause that's the name of my tug. I guess maybe the day I sell that old girl, I might have a lump in my throat. So then I might need to change the handle.

Still thanks for the thought.


Entered at Thu Apr 23 00:41:46 CEST 2009 from pool-71-246-5-95.phlapa.fios.verizon.net (71.246.5.95)

Posted by:

bob w.

Kevin, thanks.

Steve, when you, smart and funny get together please be sure to contact me.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 23:20:17 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Go balls has no balls at all

Lars: Are you quoting from "A Separate Peace" again? Grade effing ten!


Entered at Wed Apr 22 23:18:48 CEST 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1279278061.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.59.237)

Posted by:

Kevin J

David & bob w: If Steve does manage to get you dander up – here’s a tip that embarrasses all Canadians of all ages all the time…….two words and no not David Foster or Terry Jacks or F**king Nickleback but………………………Brian Mulroney – think a combination of W’s incompetence and Hugo Chevez swagger….mix in taking a bunch of money over the years in brown paper bags and policies that came within a hair of actually destroying a great country and well you get the picture………here’s the kicker – 20 years after leaving office – he was voted Canada’s ‘Greenest” Prime Minister.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 23:07:57 CEST 2009 from cpe-24-161-34-171.hvc.res.rr.com (24.161.34.171)

Posted by:

Lars & The Discount House of Worship ecology group

Location: The pristine woods of NY

Subject: Politics and strange bedfellows

JOAN- When I think of Bobby Kennedy I remember a good man from Massachusetts. I never thought of him as a New Yorker, but I never thought of Hillary that way, either. I guess I don't see any harm in changing the bridge's name, but then I never go near it so I guess I'm not qualified to voice an opinion. I have a sneaking suspicion it's all about politics, but it bears repeating: Bobby Kennedy was a good man (you could do worse).

Back in 1985 New Paltz High School built an athletic field next to the new high school. Since Floyd Patterson (ex- heavy weight boxing champ who lived in New Paltz) was always donating his time for the good of the town of New Paltz, his name came up when it was time to dedicate the field. There was a lot of bickering about who to name the field after. When somebody asked Floyd what he thought about it, he replied in typical sarcasm, "I think they should name it after a politician."

They named it after Floyd.

Floyd was sarcastic. If a boxer was shadow boxing in front of the mirrors and his punches stated to get a little low as fatigue set in, he'd come over and tell the boxer that his punches would only be effective if he was boxing a midget. That was the real Floyd, although he was never obnoxious with his remarks, just down to earth.

Being obnoxious with sarcasm is different. John Knowles called this trait "the protest of the weak."

So, as I finally come to the point, it's a proven fact that cattle emit methane gas when they fart. This gas is part of what is destroying our ozone layer. Steve, we are sending you a box of corks in order to for you to use on your cattle. Today is Earth Day and only you cattle farmers can save the earth. We hope you don't think we're being sarcastic.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 23:07:28 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Me, I've never seen a man looking so happy to be manacled. You've gotta love these win-win situations. And with the military's new green-offset program for fuel consumption, good for the environment on Earth Day too.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 23:00:48 CEST 2009 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Gram and Robbie

Just skimming posts, but . . . Northern Quebec medley by Gram Parsons & co. was made up. He had his roadies/flunkies to pretend they were a bar concert crowd. That's why it sounds so fake. Now the question about was it recorded in Quebec is beyond me. I believe it was. Maybe I'll e-mail my MySpace friend Al Perkins and ask him 8-)

Hickory Wind was about GP's father's family in Tennessee as it was dedicated to his Grandmother Conner. Tennessee doesn't fit any better into a song than Georgia or Florida, so "In South Carolina . . ." was the lyric that won out.

The response to Robbie's announcement that he may tour has been very nice. Sebastian seems to spend a great deal of time on both the FaceBook and MySpace pages. Wish Robbie would just hit the road this summer with Dylan, Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp even for a few "special appearances." I'd go see old Bob again if that were the case.

Norm, can we still call you Westcoaster?

Jan F.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 22:31:21 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

Steve: Shame on you for watching non-CanCon programming and relying on our freedom of the press. It's so sad that the salt your little pirate tastes comes, not from the sea, but from his own tears. No doubt if he'd been turned over to his own so-called country, he'd already be well on the way to a death sentence. Now he's fulfilling his dream to come to the U.S., on a free ticket to boot.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 22:23:34 CEST 2009 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest - (Slightly South)
Web: My link

Subject: New addy via the guestbook session players

Bill M - Northern Buoy - Lars P - Steve Poophead - David P - Joan BABY - Southern Belle Jan - Sweet Serenity - Jeff -0 -Friend O - Every body else from NW Territories - to - Hudsons Bay - to - Labradore - NFL, down to the Panama Canal - Australia - Europe & the Gawd Damn British Ilses and Ireland - I didn't want to be accused of missing any one.

I spent an hour this morning with the Shaw cable guy hooking this shit back up. I couldn't use my westcoaster e mail handle some other dirty low down *^#@^ has got it. So I tried to think up every nautical handle possible, no luck.

Then suddenly it came to me. My brother's CD is called "Tugman". So we tried that SUCCESS! tugman atshawdotca Bill.

If you've never tried lorne's website, do it. Watch the black line! Then you get to hear him and some guys do a little picking.

David, re Kristoffersen you were right of course. Don't you ever get tired of being right all the time??

Steve the CD is finished, Eddy is just doing the mastering, then it's got to get the copies made. Do you think I should get more than 10 copies made. I mean you're the man who should know!

NB, you come from Toronto, how in hell do you get lost doing a little navigation work in Surrey fer-chris-sake?


Entered at Wed Apr 22 21:25:15 CEST 2009 from (198.208.159.19)

Posted by:

Marty DeJarnette

Web: My link

Subject: DeJarnette

Levon, I am a long time fan of The Band. Your music has influenced me on my road to become a songwriter. I read a story one of how the postman in your town would come by to tune your guitar. His name was DeJarnette. Im sure somewhere in the tree I am related to him. Just wanted to say thanks for all the good music and glad your still playing.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 21:20:38 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

NB: In that case, when you're out this way you might take NG to Scaramouche, where Peter Boyd is, I've learned by googling, the wine-buyer. Good timing too, as all the fancy restaurants are dropping their prices in these recessionary times. You can tell yourself that not only are you winning points, you're also saving money (even if you wind up spending the saved money on a CD bought from the artist himself). You might confirm it with him, but I suspect that the reason for the 'big' song not being on the CD is that he could bring himself to sing "Let's go down to the Be-each", which is what he'd have to do given that the uses of "Beaches" is now verboten. As for the costs of running the Olympics, that's still a painful topic in Montreal. You'll remember the mayor of the time saying that the Montreal Olympics could no more have a deficit than a man could have a baby - and then the provincial birthrate went into freefall when everyone decided to test his theory.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 21:07:58 CEST 2009 from pool-71-241-157-35.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (71.241.157.35)

Posted by:

Joan

Location: Poorer side of town.

Subject: I'm POed at government money waste

The powers that be have decided to rename the Triborough Bridge The Robert F Kennedy Bridge. No reason why was given. Prior to his death in 1968 he had briefly been a NY Senator. The name Triborough makes sense as this is a combo of bridges that connect The Bronx, Queens and Manhattan. They have put out big bucks to change all the signs at a time when money is tight.

The typical New Yorker will never call it "The RFK Bridge. Most native New Yorkers (me included) still call Avenue of the Americas Sixth Avenue, and probably always will.

Sorry for the rant but I'm still getting over paying my tax bill.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 20:59:01 CEST 2009 from 21cust127.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.127)

Posted by:

Steve

David and Admiral Bob ( Ret) I'd hope you would have noticed I was relaying the info given on that PBS program about Chesapeake Bay and Puget Sound both American water bodies, they didn't cover any Canadian disasters or criminal gov't leaders or policies.

God( and Bob) knows I wouldn't defend them.

Actually David, it's worse than what you were able to google up.

Our Govt's talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Your gov't has actually passed laws with more teeth than ours. The POINT and I'll make it again was that Reagan actually turned the ship of state,( a Nod To The Admiral" Ret") around in what should be considered a Crime Against Humanity after laws were in place and were working. Even we haven't elected such a criminal bastard as Reagan as of yet. We elected the morally challenged too but unlike Admiral Bob I won't defend them or their actions.

Our Gov't passes laws that Reagan would approve of. Well not actually laws, they're guidelines and following them is voluntary.

Peter I'll regale you later with my own sea story of our rafting ride down the Lachine Rapids that you did as well.

Admiral Bob W ( Ret)I've done some searching and it seems this victory at sea over those nasty teenage pirates was the first for the Good Old Red White and Blue since app 1944.I'm standing and saluting at the moment. Chips Ahoy, Matey.

Hopefully Homeland Security have that grizzled 15 year old swabby manacled and chained in the brig, you don't want to let that big fish get away at least not before some kind of International Show Trial. The citizens have to appreciate that the navy is worth the billions spent on it every year.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 20:54:41 CEST 2009 from vance007.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.186.7)

Posted by:

NB

Bill M. Looked for but never found "Beulah Land". Didn't Toronto waste a bunch of money recently holding a vote to decide whether to continue calling "The Beaches" by that name, as opposed to "Beaches" or "The Beach" or whatever a whole bunch of local dumbasses had started to refer to that area as ? After a vote at taxpayer expense, I believe it's no longer officially "The Beaches". No wonder Toronto's what, 500 million in debt, and that's without even being stupid enough to host the winter olympics like Vancouver. What's next ? A vote to change Toronto to Trawna just because most of the city folk say it that way ? On a more positive note however, has it occurred to you yet that Toronto may end up winning exactly the same number of playoff hockey games this year as Montreal ? (Oh, hi Steve).

All about the music as always,

NB


Entered at Wed Apr 22 20:24:17 CEST 2009 from modemcable048.1-200-24.mc.videotron.ca (24.200.1.48)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I also saw them in late 74 opening up for The Who on the Quadrophenia tour. A rotten sound system and 20,000 people hooting for The Who did not do them any good. Not that The Who were much better that night. That night was most famous for The Who trashing a hotel room and all being arrested. I believe that John Entwistle later wrote a song about that night.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 20:00:55 CEST 2009 from cache-dtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

Friend0

Three guitar band for the early 70s was Lynyrd Skynyrd. Had the good fortune to see the original band twice, late 74 & early 75 (either valentine's day or erev valentine's day), before they got real big. Academy of Musio, NYC (I'm nt sure if had been renamed the palladium or not by then), and Capitol Theatre, Passaic NJ. Mid size theatres. That was one bad band.



Entered at Wed Apr 22 19:28:31 CEST 2009 from s0106001c109f95ec.vc.shawcable.net (24.83.168.217)

Posted by:

K

Subject: Kings of Leon

I saw Kings of Leon's first stadium show a few years ago-opening for Bob Dylan at Gm place in Vancouver-and they were so nervous, everyone could hear it. And sure enough before the last song Caleb called out that they were:"happy to be on the tour, but nervous as hell!" That got a few cheers.

Strange to see then headlining festivals and playing stadiums themselves now; Although, I have to say, out of all the popular 'rock' groups-nickleback, fall out boy, Coldplay the killers-I thnk I enjoy Kings of Leon the most, as their musical roots and influences do seem to be planted pretty firmly in tradition.

That being said, i wasn't very happy with their last record; It is pretty commercial, verging on generic sounding. I do get the sense that they were trying to appeal to the North American market more; as I understand it, they were more popular in England-already headlining stadiums over there-before they were popular in the States.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 19:05:45 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Sorry...his last name is MacDonald & the series is "The Mystery of Creativity."


Entered at Wed Apr 22 18:59:02 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Clip from David MacDonald's new tv series.

From the same director who gave us "Woodstock...Can't Get There From Here," David has provided a short clip from his tv series "The Mystery of Creativity & Spirituality." He's now living in Woodstock & will be soon meeting w/ Michael Lang about using his "Woodstock" movie in upcoming Woodstock 40th anniversary festivities.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 18:47:21 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Could be … I don't remember the Canadian guide because I mentioned that my favourite group was "Robbie Robertson & The Band" and the next thing I knew I was swimming. I was nearly pulled under by the weight. (Of my long pink scarf)


Entered at Wed Apr 22 18:44:21 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

Jeff: J.D. Souther's friends, the Eagles, also favor a triple guitar attack. In recent years, since Hell Froze Over, Don Henley also straps on a guitar, adding a fourth, although it seems to be a more ornamental, rather than instumental factor.

Onstage, The Band was among the groups to take a different approach, relying on multiple keyboards, rather than guitars. In practice, in addition to Richard, Garth is two or three in himself, with his stacks of keyboards. One of the countless delights of the new gold CD reissue of The Brown Album is that one can more clearly distinguish all the different layers of honey that Garth added to sweeten the mix.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 18:21:01 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J / Peter V: Not only that, but he's lived extensively in both Montreal and rubber boots. Would there be any point in mentioning that Edward Bear's first album included a meandering blues instrumental entitled "Toe Jam"?


Entered at Wed Apr 22 17:55:17 CEST 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1279310524.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.186.188)

Posted by:

Kevin J

If I remember my GB history….did Steve not mention that he took a break from farming circa 1994 to work as a guide in the Niagara Falls area?


Entered at Wed Apr 22 17:34:07 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Pollution

I reckon I was in Niagara Falls around 1994, and the water splashing on Maid in the Mist was definitely whiffy. However our guides assured us absolutely that all the chemicals and filth in the Great Lakes and Niagara river came from the USA. They did say that by the time you got onto Lake Ontario, Canadian pollution was joining it. We did the water rapids boats at Montreal and that far downriver the water smelled bad. But I believed the guides.

Did I mention that they were Canadian?

We all got dreadful foot rot from the communal rubber boots issued on the Montreal water rides. It lasted weeks.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 17:18:02 CEST 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1279310524.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.186.188)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Kings of Leon

Steve L: I had noted some weeks back how the lead guy in KOL had mentioned how in awe he was of the Band’s material – saying that whenever he listened to their songs he felt like he really was just scratching the surface when it came to the construction of songs. That cover shot is a nice homage.

I wasn't there but hear that KOL put on a great show in Toronto last night.........


Entered at Wed Apr 22 17:15:31 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Dr. John's "facebook" page.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 17:06:23 CEST 2009 from cache-dtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Richie's Guitar /// JD Souther Interview Link

The thing with Springfield and the triple guitars. Furay actually was a ground breaking rhythm guitarist. He had a unique way of comping the melody rhythmically that noone else has ever seemed to do. I had always noticed it when i was a kid, never gave it a lot of thought. But then I never heard anyone else really do the same thing either. I think l've only seen it mentioned in writing once, and that may have been in t he book with einarson.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 16:13:52 CEST 2009 from pool-71-246-5-95.phlapa.fios.verizon.net (71.246.5.95)

Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, invest in a mirror.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 16:09:12 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Guitar a trois

Bill M: Skip Spence also briefly played guitar with the Quicksilver Messenger Service before Marty Balin recruited him to play drums in his new band Jefferson Airplane. Spence was replaced by Spencer Dryden, who was really a good drummer, shortly after the release of their first album.

Spence returned to guitar with Moby Grape, adding his skills as a songwriter. Interesting that, like the Buffalo Springfield, they featured three guitarists and no full-time keyboardist. Had not David Crosby disparaged Gene Clark's guitar skills, the Byrds too may have featured a triple guitar attack onstage.


Entered at Wed Apr 22 15:42:19 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

David P: How right you are - unfortunately, in this case. While I hold to my view that Whining is our best sport (we'd clean up at the Olympics), we're close to the head of the flock in Fouling One's Own Nest too.

Re the proposed guitarist-swap, I agree that Miller was indeed Moby Grape's best, which makes a Lewis for Young all the more sensible - second-best for second-best. Sensible, but unpalatable, unlike an intriguing third-best for third-best. BS would be the big winner - better songs and a more suitable singer in my view. I think it's the Furay / Einarson book that mentions talk of Buffalo Springfield taking on Skip Spence, but as a replacement for Dewey Martin, which would be truly perverse given how good Martin was and how mediocre Spence was on drums. Not to mention the fact that Martin, though just the third-best singer in the group, was still better than Spence.

Band fans in the east end: Did any of you make it to "The Last Waltz" at the Fox theatre in the Beaches last night?

NB: Speaking of the Beaches, did you ever manage to track down Peter Boyd's "Beulah Land" CD? I ask now because to the degree that the guy had any prominence previously it was as a member of a mid '70s duo called Beavis and Boyd, whose 'big' song, "The Beaches" was played many many times by Bruce Palmer from Buffalo Springfield when he was part of a fabulous late '70s group called the Village.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: If it wasn't Jesus...it musta been

Last time I was in Montreal I saw a guy walking on water….he had on a pink scarf and was hollering something about Cold Fronts being sent south…….I thought it was a miracle….could it have been raw sewage?………….a nation turns its lonely eyes to you Steve…………..


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Posted by:

David P.

Steve: The pollution problem is not confined to the United States. For instance, unlike the U.S., our North American neighbor Canada has no national standards for sewage treatment required for its cities & towns. As a result, hundreds of billions of liters of untreated raw sewage are pumped into natural waterways, from the St. Lawrence River to the Strait of Juan de Fuca.


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Jim Weider

I know there are quite a few Jim Weider fans about. At archive.org there are quite a few of his shows posted. I haven't listened to any so I can't comment on the sound quality.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Happy "Cough, Cough" Earth Day

PBS had a fairly depressing 2 hr. Frontline episode last night about two of the US's major bodies of water, Chesapeake Bay and Puget Sound.

The program outlined the birth of the EPA in the US. Hard to believe these days but millions of Americans took to the streets in 1970 as they came face to face with burning rivers, lakes that could infect you with all kinds of potentially deadly diseases and air so thick with smog you could see and feel it.

Nixon, pressured by congress who were being pressured by citizens reluctantly created the EPA.

Nixon made the mistake of appointing a Republican who was a closet environmentalist who took the job to heart and the large industrial polluters started to end up in court and were forced to clean up.

Along comes the Great Emasculator in 1980, financed by the companies who just happened to be the same companies the EPA was cracking down on.

One of Reagan's first acts was to send a letter to these companies asking them to tell his gov't what regulations they wanted dropped from the EPA's handbook.

Fast forward to today and 40% of Chesapeake bay is dead, most of the damage being caused by Perdue Chicken, one of the companies allowed of the leash by Reagan.

Industrial chicken farms dump as much raw untreated chicken shit into Chesapeake Bay as 4 cities the size of Washington DC everyday.

40 % of the Bay is now dead, completely lacking oxygen. Most commercial fisheries have died along with the fish and shell fish.

As of today the industrial giant is still free of regulatory action, they've been able to argue they don't own the shit coming from their chickens so are not responsible for it. They argue if they have to deal with the problem it will effect their business model. Reagan; Environmental criminal who rivals George W Bush for the title, Public Enemy #1


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: To the lineup of Lollapalooza. Lou Reed, Neko Case, Arctic Monkeys, The Killers, Snoop Dogg and a lot of goodies for those lucky enough to see this show.

xxxxxxxxx

Thurs. Dave Letterman has Jamie Foxx, Paula Abdul and THE DEAD.

Fri. Dave has Lily Allen [A real cutie].

Fri. CTV at 10PM Elvis Costello has the great James Taylor.

All for now.

Seeya soon xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Steve L

Location: Chicago
Web: My link

Subject: Rolling Stone Cover

Just got the latest issue of Rolling Stone in the mail today with Kings of Leon on the cover, the pic is a nice tribute to Elliot Landy's Band work. Pretty cool.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Neil Young's "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Bargain CDs and DVDs

Borders Books and Music continues to unload stock on CDs and DVDs. Last year they reduced their in-store inventory in the US by $60 million in CDs alone. This week there's a 50% off "red tag" sale including a lot of great CDs and DVDs. I picked up a great Rhino DVD of Ray Charles live in Brazil DVD as well the Neko Case, Kris Kristofferson and Lucinda Williams "Austin City Limits" DVDs for half price, and spotted the tribute to The Band CD for half price, too.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Another Dylan\ Leonard Link

Leonard, while discussing Hallelujah, said that when he released it nobody seemed to like it, his record company, Columbia, didn't like anything about the album and refused to release it. He said the only person he was aware of at the time who seemed to hear something in the song was Dylan. He was the only notable performer Leonard was aware of at that time who covered the song in his live performances.

Thanks David, so I guess the reason remains a mystery.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Landmark: Thanks. I do remember it, and in fact mentioned it in the GB yesterday in a Lightfoot post (his Gordship having been one of the hoofers on the show). And, the label that the EP that I mentioned was on was the same Chateau label as one of Mark London's solo 45s from '62 or '63.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Thanks for the mention Bill but I really can't help you out on this one. I was 8 years old when he became a pro player and my only exposure to country music at that time was waiting for "Country Hoedown" (remember that one) to end and for "Hockey Night In Canada" to start. Luckily, we were a blessed family who had cable. Bad news was "The Jackie Gleason Show" was no bargain either.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

David P especially: Speaking of Neil Flanz, the guy has his own site - see link above - which mentions Gram Parsons and the Fallen Angels. The GB's Montrealers might be able to shed more light on his hometown days, but I do know that he neglected to mention his first record, as lead guitarist with Barry Paul and the Deans.

Landmark in particular will appreciate the fact that if you go to rcs.law.emory.edu/rcs/pics/d06/6048.htm you'll find photos of both sides of that record - one written by Flanz and (Barry?) Persaw and the other written by Persaw and (Mel) Kirstein - i.e., the fabled Mark London, later the writer of "To Sir With Love" / road manager for Led Zep / runner of the Swan Song label / manager of Stone the Crows et al.

Speaking of former Montreal C&W players, I turned on the radio today to what I thought was a Cohen soundalike doing something from a Leonard tribute - but no, it was a track from the new Dylan.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Westcoaster: I just sent you an email re Frankie Rodgers that bounced back. Care to send me your new address?


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Street Giveth...And The Street Taketh Away

Lars: Larry Packer also crossed paths with another lengendary artist who was too soon gone -- Jimi Hendrix. His old group, Cat Mother & the All-Night Newsboys toured with Hendrix, who also produced their first album.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

Steve: You're right - it's da dum dum, not dum dum dum. Sorry about that. Either way, one cannot help but think of Python's epic "Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, dumpty dumpty dum".

David P: I have a very hazy memory of reading an interview with Gram Parsons at the time of his last band (with Neil Flanz, ND Smart, et al). Can't say for sure, but I believe it was some shortlived Toronto pseudo-underground rock newspaper of that sort that no doubt all big cities had in the early '70s. If it was a local paper, then there's a good chance that the story coincided with an appearance - but that's not a sure thing.

Lars: I was going to mention Cat Mother and the All-Night Newsboys a couple of posts ago, but didn't. But now that you've mentioned Larry Packer, who fiddled on their first album, I'll note that another original member was Charlie Chin, the guy who played banjo (which I've learned earlier today is virtually the state flower of SC) on "Bluebird", and a still other was bassist Roy Michaels, who'd played in the Au Go Go Singers with Stills and Furay. For all I know, Michaels could even have been the bassist in the smaller Stills-led rock group that met and hung around with Neil Young and the Squires in Fort William ca '65. Michaels would later join Amos Garrett in a Toronto group, the Dirty Shames - who later added another future Newsboy, Bob Smith, to their ranks.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Speaking of Neil Young; speaking of Steve Cropper . . . .


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Posted by:

David P.

Steve: I didn't find any reference to the origin of the Northern Quebec medley title. Didn't even find anything about Gram Parsons ever travelling to Canada. When the Burritos did the Festival Express tour, it was just after Parsons had been kicked out of the group.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The woods in the valley

Subject: The eyes of Gram Parsons

I noticed that Larry Packer was one of the people interviewed in Butch Dener's link to The Band and the people of Woodstock, posted in BFB about a week ago. Pack was playing up in Boiceville with Charles Lyonhart this winter and we had a good long talk while the opening band was playing. He took the news about my nephew's death really hard (it was an O.D.); maybe because he has a son the same age who works down in NYC. While we were talking about people who had OD'ed over the years, he mentioned Gram Parsons in his long list of acquaintances who left early. It turns out that Pack had played fiddle at some outdoor show with Gram; they were part of a "pick up" band. Pack must have been in his early 20s.

I asked him about Rich Furey's observation that when you looked in Gram's eyes "there was nothing there," something to that effect. Pack said that by the time he got a chance to play with Gram, the drugs had taken their toll and when he looked in Gram's eyes he only saw a junkie. Gram died soon afterwards.

If you ever want to spot Larry Packer at TLW movie, go to "Dixie" and wait until the camera turns stage left and focuses on Levon. Right behind Levon, sitting on the floor with a hat on and playing fiddle, is the Packman.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, just to complete the line......da dum dum.

David, Hickory Wind, ah yes, you were going to get back to me on the origin of, "Medley Live From Northern Quebec" from that Gram bio. Maybe Norm could finish his CD, The Wait, with Cash On The Barrelhead and Hickory Wind and you could do the liner notes including the Northern Quebec reference. It doesn't seem like that would delay the CD release any.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hey David. I recalled Florida and Georgia too, but never did go back to read if he ever lived in South Carolina when he was young. I figure if it was not accurate, south Carolian sings, where florida and georgia just don't fit in either song. Though if you add a word first, georgia can work, almost, in Crazy Eyes. Of course, Bob Buchanan, migth have been from south Carolina.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Crazy Eyes

Although it doesn't distract from the power of the song "Crazy Eyes", Gram Parsons was not from South Carolina. He grew up in Florida and Georgia. Perhaps Richie Furay got that impression from the song "Hickory Wind", written by Mr. Parsons & Bob Buchanan, and included on the Byrds classic "Sweetheart of the Rodeo".


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: Speaking of parallels, Skip Spence's "Oar" includes original songs entitled "Cripple Creek" and "Weighted Down". Sundazed has just released "The Place And The Time", a compilation of Moby Grape demo recordings, outtakes, alternative versions and live cuts. It's available on CD and as a 2-LP set. Although Peter Lewis, the son of actress Loretta Young, and Skip Spence both played guitar in the group, it was Jerry Miller who handled most of the real outstanding lead guitar work.

Thanks Jeff for posting the link to the Richie Furay interview. His "Alive" 2-CD set from last year is a must for all Springfield & Poco fans.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Bill, we crossed.

You are trying to read too much and do too much guesswork over one simple statement. Without getting out the vinyl, I woudlnlt be able to tell you where the band memebrs did the recording, but i can telll you from what i rememebr that (not ocunting after they moved to NAshville)) they seemingly always recorded in LA or Colorado, the exception vewing from the Inside, produced by Steve cropper and if i recall recorded in Nashville. Maybe Memphis, but i believe Nashville.

Poco did not need session musicians. First album Rusty played any keys.There were strings. second, they did use two pianists and a percussionist. Deliverin, nobody else, Frome The Inside a name pianist, maybe J Spell sounds right. Fourth Crazy Eyes saw Hillman on mandolin, Paul Harris on piano, some string section players.

Far as sounds go, Cotton has a lot of sounds on guitar.So does Rusty. I;ve never been a fan of Rusty;s guitar work live, but that don't mean that in t he studio i wouldn't like him. Live he gets goofy on that Tarantula or Gargantua he invented. BUt the guy is a musical whiz.Same as Sneaky, noone ever could sound like him on steel.

Trying to reconstruct how something was recorded from one statement, you can't do that. Richie was exaggerating. Maybe he just doesn't recall other band members doing anything to that song in that studio, maybe he wasn't there when they did. Whi knows. But he was exaggerating, specially with calling it a folk song. Poco was not the kind of band that took pieces oif thing sin tot he studio. Hell, the band rehearsed for 4 months before they did their first gig at The Troubador. They were over achievers! Poco was a players band. And you can bet very involved and interested in what the recordings would sound like. Richie did say a lot of other stuff abourt the tenseness of that time. Maybe he was just a little removed from the process, but i even doubt that. but i completely doubt he was not caring about that song. It was an opus of HIS. It's likely he and they all had more input in that song than what you woudl like to believe. I;m nt buying htat Richardson and Ezrin pieced it together with out anyone knowing what the song woudl sound like. I tihnk Richie way over exaggeratted, and I do think that The production team did a great job on the record in general. Just cause Richie is a minister and just cause he is one of my favorites ever doesn't mean he can't go stray a little too far into "aw shucks" territory. And he also has a healthy ego. He ls one of the greats. He is very up front about how not achieving commercail usccess was a big disdappoinment( in POcco or SHF) for him, how he had really hard times dealing with that, how it has effected his life. How that and his wife turned him in the direction he took his life , and etc etc. he is a happy guy and I respect him for that. btu even with all that, you can hear Richie staking his claim in places in that little interview. I don't begrudge him. It is deserved, the man was one of the originators and one of a a few handfuls of musicians who really influenced the culture of the 60s which in turn influenced the entire world, to this day. Without richie, no Springfield. He was the original voice, and he kept that band togther. He also was the energy factor in that band.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Speaking of Buffalo Springfield, the Neil Young issue of "Uncut" magazine has Peter Lewis of Moby Grape saying that he and Neil had a bit of a joke going where they'd talk about trading groups. Would've been interesting. Of course Young also told Robbie that if the Band was ever looking for a lead guitarist .... I wonder what might've happened if he'd said that to someone who wasn't already the lead guitarist?

Speaking of Moby Grape, listening to "Oar" this morning, not only are there lots of parallels with our guys' Big Pink and big brown, but one song is built around the Clapton guitar line that accompanies "It's getting near dawn" dum-dum-dum ...


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Posted by:

Friend0

Bill, I'm glad you enjoyed the interview, but I got to dis agree with you about Richie sounding like more like Stills than himself in places. No way Jose. Nada chance Lance. Or if you are in a non floury mood, notta chance lance.

I do wonder, are you listening to a LP, a original cd, or a digitally remastered one . Digital remastering generally upsets me. If the source tapes are available and fine, that's the ticket baby. Why fuck with success, there was no room for improvement on these suckers. In 73 sound was sound.

Regarding the arrangement, you noticed some common aspects. But going for a Springfield characteristic intentionally.I have to doubt. I'd say that they came uop with what the song called for. South Carolina pines, a banjo is not out of place exactly.I also think Richie was over exagerating how little the band had to do with the final sound of the song. He does try to give extra credit where it's due. Not the only time in that interview.


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Posted by:

Bill M

It might be just plain silly to think that Paul Cotton would have been unable to play whatever was desired, but if he wasn't in town when his services were needed, then who knows. Perhaps Richie Furay was being overdramatic in the interview, but he does give the impression that once he'd recorded "Crazy Eyes" as a folk song with just piano, he didn't hear it again until it'd received full-blown studio treatment by Richardson and Ezrin in Toronto. So, maybe Furay left the rest of the group - or at least Cotton - in Toronto to do his/their parts, or maybe the whole band left town and producers called in whoever was handy and competent. Maybe they even flew in Cotton, or maybe they didn't.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Bill, as NB would say, that's just plain silly. Perish the thought of a session guitarist on a Poco recording. Between em, there's nothing Rusty or Paul can't do on guitar.



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Posted by:

Ilkka (again)

Subject: Sorry Norbert, it was "good" not "rough"

Sorry for my quote. It was not correct. It should have been "good shit", not "rough shit". After all, here in the North it doesn't make a difference.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: "Rough shit" by Norbert

Maybe I didn't get the humour in your recent post but in the few disgussion forums I still follow (=Linux) I can see many posts in Chinese, too. Don't laugh at them.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Thanks to Friendo for the "Crazy Eyes" interview with Richie Furay. Interesting about Furay and Gram Parsons having known each other in their folkie days in NY in the mid-'60s and that Parsons was rooming with musicians calling themselves the New Highwaymen. Any relation to the 'old' Highwaymen of "Michael Row Your Boat Ashore" fame? (The Mamas and the Papas emerged from the New Journeymen, remember.) And if Parsons was part of the NY folk scene, I wonder if he also first met Jim McGuinn back then. Anyway, the big production of "Crazy Eyes" sounds like Jack Richardson / Bob Ezrin doing their best to meld together various elements of Buffalo Springfield - the banjo from "Bluebird", the strings 'n' things from "Expecting To Fly", a bit here and there where Richie sounds more like Stills than himself. Is it Paul Cotton doing those short thick lead guitar breaks in the last half, or a session guy? Sounds so much like it was borrowed from Skylark's original "Wildflower".


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Posted by:

Friendo

Web: My link

Subject: David Geffen/Poco

Listen to the Crazy Eyes interview on Richie;s myspace page. Form just this past March. We all know David Geffen talked Richie in to leaving Poco, and Hillman in to leaving Manassas, to start Souther, Hillman and Furay ( Hillman brought Al Perkins, and Paul Harris from Manssass with him). There is a part to this story that I never heard or read before, and it is a corker. You all will know it when you hear Richie talk about it.

Crazy Eyes has always been a masterpiece of a song. the interview does talk about the recording process and Richie's relationshio with Gram. Richie also discussed his early co existence with Gram a lot in his book on The Buffalo Springfield.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Amazing!

Poco playing stagecoach in California now not only includes Richie Furay & Jim Messina, but also george Grantham and Timothy B. Schmidt.

Furay's playing Wildwood Lodge in Steelville, MO with them too (and of course I;m not in St Louis), and will also be at Bethel Woods (Hooray) with them, when they perform there with Loggins & Messina in August


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

According to the link, Dylan and Robert Hunter collaborated on the lyrics to the songs on Dylan's upcoming album. Courtesy of Punmaster's MusicWire.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Robbie R.

On Robbie's Facebook page the status reads:"seriously considering doing some touring next year." That is all I have to report.

JT- I have heard the film is horrible, and Dylan himself basically slept through every scene. Although, Rupert Everret has said that as soon as it came time for any musical scenes to be filmed, Bob just "came alive."- Or maybe he just woke up. He also mentioned that the wardrobe girls kept Dylan in fair supply of whiskey to keep him going throughout the day.


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Posted by:

Bob B

Subject: Hey Rob

Boy you shure turned into an awesome man! Just checked out your My Space,.....what a trip. There's not words to express my feelings I'm awed. Hold on Bob


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Posted by:

Bob B

Subject: Response to Mike My Link

Thanks Mike preciate it. The video engulfed me. Thanks to Sebastian for the upload. Robbie & Howie did an awesome job,felt like i was there, or they hear.

I tried to find a way to purchase it but Im not to up on the web and the chats and this's and thats so i had to scat.I would like to purchase it for my grand kids they love the style. Guess I'll have to bring'um over to show me around for the second time. Again Thanks To All


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Posted by:

JT

Subject: Hearts of Fire

Hearts of Fire is not a very good movie. I saw it and watched it again a few years later to see how I felt after a second viewing. My biggest problem with it was the heavy hand of the director which limited Dylan from being himself. The dialogue was stilted and left something to be desired. The music was OK but not stellar. I had the same feeling about Masked and Anonymous. Bob Dylan's best delivery occurs when he is allowed to be himself. Theme Time Radio Hour represents Dylan's finest 'acting'. As I listen to him, I try to imagine him 'au natural' in the above movies...the 2 films would have been elevated had he been given freedom from the shackles of his script and his directors. Sometimes less is more. My opinion and open to criticism.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: nu bob

Bob sounds good on the two tracks I've heard from the new album. It sounds more like Love and Theft than Modern Times.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Robertson video.

His son Sebastian recently uploaded this video w/ his dad & Howie B.


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Posted by:

Bob B

Location: Hanford ca

Subject: Kristie

Thanks for the Link appreciate it. Just checked it out,Sahm sure put out some good stuff.Thanks again and to the band for the Guest Book mean that really do.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Heaven's Gate

Pretty much, I agree with Kevin J. I think it's a flawed masterpiece. The studio cut leaves in the self indulgence. And Kevin, thanks also for your links from it to the band. It was apparently well regarded in europe, where it's Marxist themes, I suspect carried a different baggage. But not deserving of bad moviedom. Though I wouldn't have liked to be an investor ...


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Posted by:

Kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Doug Sahm Myspace tracks.

Thank you to Kevin-She is indeed a lovely lady. And I am curious to know what happened between her and CSN...?

David P-I also came across that Information and was confused...?

Check out the song "Nuevo laredo on the Doug Sahm Myspace page. Doesn't it sound like Levon?


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Doug Sahm Tribute CD

kristie: I don't know if Levon sings harmony on the cut you mentioned. What's puzzling is that the advance publicity for "Keep Your Soul: A Tribute To Doug Sahm" (Vanguard) listed Levon for doing a cover of "She's About A Mover". However, the recently released CD, which I haven't heard, has Little Willie G. (with Ry Cooder) performing that song instead. Does anyone know what happened??


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Scorsese's "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Joe J: I somehow had missed your clip of Lightfoot circa 1962 – stunning……Had never heard this before. Thank you and to Bill M for making mention of it. It was nice to see Bob Dylan again point out his respect for Lightfoot’s work in that Bill Flannagan interview. All of which can be found on bobdylan.com


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Shutter Island" "facebook" page.

Robbie is in charge of the music for this movie set to be released late '09.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: SPIN's top 40 albums of 2008. Not to my liking, as I'm not a fan of OASIS and some other heavy metal groups. This is a good music sight with a lot of info.

Seeya

xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Too in love to look at anybody off stage!

Kristie…..apropo to your hat and Kris Kristofferson….I came across the above clip of Rita Coolidge in looking for the other one. In case you didn’t know, she the was the inspiration for Leon Russell’s “Delta Lady”, the love interest that split up Crosby Stills & Nash, the lovely and beautiful wife of Kris Kristofferson and friend and colleague of The Band’s Robbie Robertson. A stunningly beautiful and talented lady.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Doug Sahm

Nuevo Laredo by Doug Sahm-Is that Levon singing harmony? Connections please.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Lang on Leno

Anyone see Jonny Lang do that smokin' gospel tune on Leno the other night ? "Oh Happy Day" is the CD he's promoting. Based on that one tune, I was extremely disappointed to learn that it's a "various artists CD". Mavis is on it, and Al Green too, and some of the best modern day gospel bands. But I really could have used an entire CD of what Jonny Lang dished out on Leno. Great stuff. Apparently he's listened almost exclusively to gospel for the last seven years. His debut cd "Lie To Me" was a fine blues offering but then I think the suits pushed him more to rock and that's when I stopped following him. In my estimation, with the right blues or bluesy-gospel material the guy's a serious talent. I wonder what his most recent solo albums have been like. NB


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Kevin/"Hearts of Desire"

Kevin-Great Link.

I take it nobody has seen"Hearts of desire," or those who have are choosing to remain anonymous! Just as I suspected....


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Kevin/"Hearts fo Desire"

Kevin-Great Link.

I take it nobody has seen"Hearts or desire," or those who have are choosing to remain anonymous! Just as I suspected....


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Kris Kristofferson

The above link is Kris performing what apparently was Johnny Cash's favorite song.....


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Posted by:

David P.

Kevin: Thanks for the reminder, as I missed the first showing of Elvis' latest Spectacle program. Will have to catch one of the repeats on Sundance later this week.

Norm: A slight correction -- the title of Kristoferson's song was "Jesus Was A Capricorn". And who can forget John Prine's "Jesus, The Missing Years".


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: 4:20: Fight The Power and Fire 'em Up

Bill thanks for the mention of Bark's artwork. Since the switch to CD's from 33 and a 1/3 LPs, I've stopped paying attention to the artwork but did notice the work on Let's Frolic Again, a Wrycraft cover. I think that might be Bumbles (AKA, Al Frolic) on the cover with the handful of snakes. Just a guess of course, that guy is probably not tall enough.

Any old geezers that have arthritic fingers and need a joint rolled, let me know for next year's 4:20.

Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan actually has a head shop at 420 High Street. The universe is unfolding as it should or maybe just on a roll. And remember to get a 4:20 participation credit for your resume you have to inhale!


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Hearts....

Has anybody seen the Film "Hearts of desire"(hearts of fire?)featuring Rupert Everret and Bob Dylan?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Rhythm Jimmy: I agree that Fred Eaglesmith's "Drive-in Movie" is great - in my view second to "Tinderbox". Just the first verse of either of the first two songs makes it worth the money: "Sixteen miles from Arkadelphia right near the Texas border / Traffic was stopped at a railway crossing, I took it to the shoulder / I stoked the kettle, I put it to the metal, I shook the gravel loose / I missed the train but was happy with a glimpse of the caboose" OR "If there were 17 cars out in my backyard, boys in blue were calling my name / Semi-automatics up on the rooftop and they just wanted to talk to me / I tell 'em what they wanted to hear, the only that I knew - that 49 tons of diesel locomotive couldn't drag me back to you".

Joe J: Thanks for the Lightfoot clip. As you may know, at about the same time ('62-'63), Gord was also one of the Singin' Swingin' Eight, the square dancers (and singers) on "Country Hoedown" (which was later revived in the US as "Hee Haw"). I have an SS8 EP with Lightfoot singing lead on "Church In The Wildwood".

Steve: Today's Toronto Star has an article by Greg Quill about the impending disappearance of album artwork. The expert quotes are provided by Michael Wrycraft, crafter of some, if not all, of the BARK covers, including the best-of that is used to illustrate the article. To illustrate the point that everything connects, the first song on BARK's "Kings of Love" is Fred's "49 Tons" (as quoted from minutes ago, above.)

And to take the point farther, I've pulled out the two bits of paper I found while rummaging through my stuff on the weekend. One is a table card from the long-defunct Albert's Hall bar in Toronto - likely from the early '80s. On July 25-30, we have Willie P. Bennett, backed by the Colin Linden Band, listed as including Bruce "Go Deo" Moffet on drums - presumably because he'd just left Mary Margaret O'Hara's Go Deo Chorus, which was what she and Rusty McCarthy called their band between Songship and her breakthrough "Miss America" album.

The second piece of paper was a longish article in the "Toronto Sun" titled "The Band's out of hibernation and it was worth the wait". From January 20, 1974, on the occasion of the "Before the Flood" tour with Dylan (who gets a mention in passing). Amazingly, the focus in on Garth Hudson, more than 20 inches of space, mostly quotes, some of them illuminating. Anyhow, if it's not in the library I'll scan and send to Jan.

Re Billy Bob, the guys I feel sorry for is his bandmates, who did a pretty good job of filling in on the interview, and were good scouts about playing the TV show without him, but who still saw their tour with Willie Nelson get pissed away. As for BB, it seems to me that he made the major mistake of believing his managers ("Yup, Billy Bob, we instructed them not to even think of mentioning acting") and then didn't know how to deal with the puzzling reality of life on the other side of the screen. So we have a mixture of Richard Manuel in "4% Pantomine" (where the management calls to say they're sorry for the inconvenience - of course they are!) and Chance the gardener when he's first outside the wall.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: John Prine

Thanks David....not sure if you saw that Elvis C show on the weekend but I think you have have enjoyed it.

Below some thoughts from Bob Dylan on John Prine. High praise indeed:

BF: How about John Prine?

BD: Prine’s stuff is pure Proustian existentialism. Midwestern mindtrips to the nth degree. And he writes beautiful songs. I remember when Kris Kristofferson first brought him on the scene. All that stuff about SAM STONE the soldier junky daddy and DONALD AND LYDIA, where people make love from ten miles away. Nobody but Prine could write like that. If I had to pick one song of his, it might be LAKE MARIE. I don’t remember what album that’s on.


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Posted by:

sadavid

I couldn't place _Heaven's Gate_ beyond its fame as an expensive disaster. Thanks to imdb dot com, I note another slight connection: the presence of _The Third Man_ star Joseph Cotten (and I still think Joe looks a lot like JRR, or rather vice versa). Also interesting that according to imdb, _The Third Man_ director Carol Reed maintained 20-hour work days through the shooting by dint of fat girl diet pills.


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Posted by:

David P.

Kevin: The rolling-skating fiddler in "Heaven's Gate" was the talented multi-instrumentalist David Mansfield, who also composed the filmscore. Beginning with the Rolling Thunder Revue, Mr. Mansfield was a member in Dylan's touring band in the late '70s. Somewhere I have the LP version of the soundtrack, which along with the photography, are among the strengths of the film.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Heaven's Gate was better than Titanic!

Heaven’s Gate is one of the best “worst movies of all-time”…….I liked it. If Rick, Robbie and Richard had just put roller skates on in that scene (Fiddle playing )in TLW there would have been an additional connection to The Band…………Of course Willem Dafoe (an actor in Heaven’s Gate) starred in a Scorsese flick that RR worked on and he also starred in a film (Spiderman) that featured a character named Joseph Robbie Robertson but I guess that wouldn’t count……….Oh, and by the way, whatever this Bob B dude is on – I want some!!

The first hour of Titanic featured dialogue as wooden and ridiculous as black socks era porn and it is considered by some people to be a very good film ......Heaven's Gate is a great film by comparison.....


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Posted by:

David P.

Thank you dlew. I neglected to mention another important link -- Mr. Zsigmond was also credited as an additional director of photography on "The Last Waltz".


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: David P.:

As usual, an incredible answer - I was happy with Ronnie, but that was terrific!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: dlew..................

Richard and Rick - would offer much more flexibility in terms of the task you have outlined...............

Caught the Elvis Costello special on the weekend. Kris Kistofferson was great. Also really nice to see Rosanne Cash - what a voice!


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Knockin' on Heaven's Gate

JT: The great Vilmos Zsigmond, a master of capturing vivid images on film, did the cinematography for both "McCabe and Mrs. Miller" and "Heaven's Gate". His many credits also include "The Crossing Guard", which featured Robbie.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Good article

Linked to the relevant page... very insightful, I think...


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Posted by:

Friend0

Bob B, Bobby. Hey, Bobby, I got songs................


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: mo' memories of Woodstock

Video includes the Albert B. Grossman memorial tablet . . . .


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Posted by:

Bob B

Subject: Sin a gag

Once I had a brok'n heart, for months The Night they drove o'le dexie down shofar'ed me around on a lonely road. Thanks fo the Band for fill'n the gap.That was when there was only an eight track.

Don't know of another sin-a-gag,but some of of the places were more like an awesome midnight gig!!! whew! what a time better'n smoke. Some of the best times of my life were in a non denom.

One of the good old times that i had was mop in my hand when i lit in front of the Man. Did some time in the whole for shoot'n em dowm with a mop pole handle i used for a gun and it was all done in fun.

the only dam I wanna know is when My Heart is a-wronginflow


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hey Bob B, Only once before have i ever encountered a synagogue referred to as a sin a gag. I believe it was in this GB. i can't recall who done committed that insult, and i'm not saying that the same person had to done did it both times (look how many times wetso has copied from me and steve, saying Gawd Damn this, Good Gawd Damn that), but it is a possibility.


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Posted by:

Bob B

Subject: FriendO get on down

If I had known I was sending ya to the ghetto Oops I meant sin a gag I'd kept my keyboard silent:

Late at night when you lay awake, or all morn dont forget the foghorn or was it a trumpet to blow that Final blast: when I know Im to arise from this earth at last.

Sorry!!! Hope ya did'nt get around to strappen on a tie, for when i go it's holes in jens or whatever I ware cause in that place how you look they just dont care! Thier only hope is to share something that you can feel in the air! It's in thier songs that He is felt!!! Then you'll know who've yu just met! Now its best there in the non denom Lord help me get off this rom! Hey its cool to stay just who you are if he wants you to change he'll hit ya across the head with a-jar. Now from this subject I'LL try to refrain but since Him i did meet I cant stop share with what i now no is it.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Remembered the last thing i heard about a Ozark Mountain Daredevil. The bassist been playing in Burrito Deluxe.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bob, before ,Northern Boy, stomps the bejesus out of you, let me correct your "in tack" to intact. Gotta go, starving, time to snack, buttal be back to give it another crack. Clear the track, HERE COMES SHACK . Sorry, it's NHL playoff time.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Will The Real Messiah Please Stand Up?

Yesterday afternoon I got in a conversation with a neighbor bout music. He thought that The Night They Drove Old Dixie down had been done only by a woman. Obviously, he meant Joan Baez. Well, you know he had to listen to an earful after that. And was instructed to youtube The Band TNTDODD,LAst waltz. So this morning I run into him and his wife again, and they asked me to write all that some other stuff down for them, that he had forgotten it by the time he got to his computer. So just now I had it in my head to watch TNTDODD from The Last waltz. And all I can say, while i have no delusions about Levon being The Messiah, I do feel like I just went to synagogue.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Messiah Live! May 7th

whatever Bob B is wailing about, he does raise a siginificant subject. Anyone who wants to Hear Messiah, has the chance on May 7th. Arthur Neilson is performing with Felix Cabrera at The Turning Point in Piermont NY. It's opposite Nyack and just above NYC. Very close to North Eastern Jersey. The show is worth the schlep.

Back in the days of Felix and The Havanas, Arthur performing Roy Buchanan's Messiah was always a gorgeous and powerful showstopper. I remember one show in Tinker street Cafe, the locals were duly stunned . Not to mention rather pleased with Felix's personal brand of insanity as well.

Felix has 4/5th of The Havanas reunited for this show. It will be a winner. Plus, The Turning Point is a great club. Nice atmosphere, clean, great waitress, great owner, great food.



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Posted by:

Bob B

Subject: Norbert He sends a message

Injoyed the flicks, first time I ever saw you on stage. Ive been off in another world but remember when the creek came out and the wieght, A friend deep down in my soul longs to unload so here I go. " There's a lonely place deep down in your heart that only I can feel! There's a lonely place deep down in your heart that only I can fill! There is a broken place down deep inside your heart that only I can Heal! Messiah, There's a lonesome place I know for I made you so! That I might keep your soul from going down,and only I can! Come sail upon the wings of the wind! Only I can be your deep down true friend! I will never sell you out! But I'm here and only I can bail you out!" Messiah


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Sailing 'round the World in a Dirty Gondola...

Norbert: thanks for posting that video from the Dylan 30th anniversary concert. I hadn't seen that in a long time and it really holds up as one of the high water marks for the 1990's version of The Band. It was nice to have Rick sharing the vocals on "Masterpiece." It really IS a masterpiece. By the way: I am impressed with your Japanese calligraphy. How did you do that?

There used to be a lot of guys named Jesus here in Virginia, but between the slow economy and the government crackdowns, it seems like there are only Juan or two now. While buying some bird seed and top soil earlier today I spotted a man who was apparently of Native American heritage wearing a t-shirt bearing the image of five or six of his fellow indigenous North American Indians. The caption of the shirt read, "The ORIGINAL Founding Fathers." I like that one...


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Posted by:

Bob

Subject: Steve punctuation stays in tack

Punctuation stays in tack! It just glides down another track! Regardless of what you might of heard in the past! You can still venture on the same path! All that hype about hav'n ta be a goody two shoes is all wrong! He loves to hear you in your song! Just the choice of words is all that holds you back!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: There are no words

Steve, Amazing Grace was a number one UK hit for The Pipes and Drums of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards in 1972. Just listen three times and you'll be fine. They skipped the lyric.


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Posted by:

Bob

Location: Hanford ca

Subject: Steve hell

Steve dont worry sing amazeing grace 3 times it just might keep you outa that place


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Stevon Farm: It's almost certain that you're possibly one of the most omniscient people in the whole, entire universe (and probably beyond), not to mention in the whole, entire GB. Nonetheless, I still must ask you the following questions because "inquiring minds want to know" and because I'm kinda curious myself.

How is it possible to be schooled TOO MUCH by Northern Boy ?

Shouldn't "hell-bound" be hyphenated ?

How come I can't find the town of Bowthayer on any map of Special K-bec province ? Is it in the Easturd Townshits or not ?

And don't feed me any of your usual bullwer on this either. NB


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Getting Back To (& at) Norm

First off, our hooking up with and hearing Norm and his band perform a couple of weekends ago almost didn't happen thanks to Norm's rather sketchy directions. When your directions to a gig are all given in nautical miles, and you're told to get to the co-ordinates of 180th and King George and then to apply a "hard left rudder and then to look fer the venue on yer starboard side", well, I guess some warning bells should go off.

Anyway, Norm kicked off his set with a Ray McCauley song he'd sent me (and probably Jeff) and the live version in no way fell short of the recorded one. Both are very good. As I believe Jeff said, Norm has a fine traditional country voice. It has a classic quality to it and Norm puts in some nice inflections. We heard a little Charlie Pride in there. The band members are obviously all veterans and know what they're doing instrumentally and with the harmonies. (Norm mentioned the harmonies before they performed, and was right.) Norm also went on about his brother's musicianship, and wasn't wrong there either as Lorne performed alongside Westie. Norm also spoke of what great results Eddy got out of his studio on Norm's upcoming, albeit eternally imminent CD. Due out in June by the way, but year/decade still to be decided.

When Norm and band did "The Weight", he was nice enough to intro it by mentioning to the audience how NG and myself had come all the way in from Hope, (which really is only a 90 min. drive, THAT IS when you're the given directions in NON-nautical terminology !). The band did a fine job of "The Weight", as by the way, did The Band. Speaking of which Norm, it's not too late to rename the upcoming CD "The Wait", you know.

The audience that day wasn't into thunderous applause for any of the acts but from what I saw, Norm's band did the best job of getting people out on the dance floor.

Anyway, it was cool to meet in person the GB legend that is Norm, and hopefully we'll hook up sometime and somewhere other than in a crowded bar. What I picture is Norm and I sitting around swappin stories, jokes and one-liners, while downing some beverages late at night around a huge, roaring bon-fire. (Either here at my expansive northern acreage, or on the back of Norm's tug). NB


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Dramatic - - DRAMATIC!!

If you're referring to - "Talk to y'all agin someday"

In the words of my hero FOGHORN LEGHORN:

That's a joke son! - You built to close to the ground boy! The fast one'z a goin' right over y'head, (tongue in cheek) Nice boy but he's kinda dumb, THAT AIN'T NO CHICKEN - THAT'S A DOG BOY - C-O-W ....DOG SON!! Cain't teach that boy nothin'.


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Posted by:

biffalo bull

Subject: delaney sure could pick em

recently listed to suan lanier-bramlett, widow of the late great delaney bramlett. great voice, great singer and a pretty good songwriter. you can check her out on Delaney Bramlett's website


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Posted by:

Steve

Sorry I didn't get that warning out quicker Peter but I was tempted by the, finding Jesus enticement, and all the positive aspects it was promising to bring to my little life and so got distracted by the tempter I didn't get the warning out as quickly as I could have. No doubt another nail in my hell bound coffin.

What stopped me dead in my tracks from following the invite from Bob(W?) to find Jesus was the revelation that in finding Jesus you lose your punctuation, completely. No fuc^in way am I going down that road. I spent too much time being schooled by Northern Boy to blow it all on a possibly fictive character who's manner of conception is the result of an incompetent translator 2000 years ago. No way.

Peter, you might be interested, for future reference, to know why I was rejected from H E double hockey sticks as well. Seems you gotta believe to get in.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Wetso, you are so dramatic.

I can't recall exactly what the case is. but some or all of The Ozark Mountain daredevils are still semi active, where else, in The ozarks. Brewer and Shipley, still down there too, are active enough. Go out several times a year, even up this way occassionally. But just south and west of St Louis, you can certianly see them 4 or 5 timesa year.Further out, in the OZarks, it could be more often. Maybe not

And Peter, your scene of hell being overrun with bankers could be fodder for many things, song, play,etc scenarios.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Osark Mountain DareDevil & Sundry other items

And on that subject Peter, "Drop Kick Me Jesus thru the goal post of Life" or Kristoffersen, "Jesus was a Carpenter".

JT, While packing yesterday, I came upon the old video, "McCabe & Mrs Miller". One of the first great movies filmed in BC. Another, that was filmed on Bowen Island, in Gibsons and up Paradise Valley behind Squamish, "The Trap" with Rita Tushingham. My older brother and some other guys from Gibsons, crewed the old steam tug "Master" in that film.

Also while packing stuff, I came upon an old album I hadn't played in years, "Don't Look Down", the Ozark Mountain Daredevils.

Moving day is at hand! Talk to y'all again some day.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria BC

Subject: Heaven's Gate

Ronnie Hawkins is the BAND association in Heaven's Gate. I loved that film from the first time I saw it at its preview in Toronto. I've seen it several times since. The soundtrack is superb. In the face of The Proposition and The Assassination of Jesse James by That Coward Robert Ford, Heaven's Gate and McCabe and Mrs. Miller stand together as 4 great films. And watch for a young Sam Waterston playing evil in Heaven's Gate.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: But seriously …

Recommended listening on Bob's subject: "She Left Me For Jesus" by Hayes Carll.


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Posted by:

Friend0

My first, and only reaction to Dlew's hypothetical was that it would depend upon the song.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Location: At The Crossroads

Subject: Steve's warning

Steve, too late! I read the message backwards to see whether you were joking, and found myself immediately transported to a crossroads wreathed in sulphurous smoke. It was like a scene from "The Mist." This big bugger with a tail was holding a 1957 Telecaster and playing an incredible solo, even though there were no leads or amplifiers in sight. I assumed he would offer me the ability to play guitar like Robbie Robertson (or even just give me a Sacred Harp that had been handed down from father unto son, but me not being related I could never be the one) in exchange for my soul, and started plunging a ballpoint pen into my leg so as to obtain the blood for a signature. Fortunately it turned out that hell is overstocked with souls at present, having bought in too many politicians’ and bankers’ souls already this year. So they didn’t have storage space for mine and I was returned to my desk unharmed.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: North northeast
Web: My link

Subject: Lightfoot c1962

Link is to a Youtube recording of the Two Tones: Lightfoot and Terry Whelan. Gord covers the classic 'Dark As A Dungeon'.

Sleepy Sunday morning. Read a recent Dylan interview in which he name dropped some favourite songwriters which led to John Prine's 'Lake Marie' which led somehow to the above.

Ice is back in the harbour: the mule's kickin in the stall. Gotta brush my teeth and saddle that nag.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location:
Web: My link

Subject: そそそそ!

At YouTube's someone write this about Clapton's gig;

そそそそ!(すんません。同じレスで)特にこの曲は会場でも盛り 上がってました。わたしは前から2番目にいましたが、最高のクラ プトンでしたよ。クラプトン...子供の頃から無数に世界中で見 てるけど。この曲があの曲と同じとは...ディランさん、スンマ セン...という感じです。

rough translation: good shit.



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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

The Band - When I Paint My Masterpiece


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: WARNING WARNING WARNING

Here's the warning on Bob's Message. Don't read it backwards, it becomes one of those anti-christ devil worship messages. I may be going to hell, now. Bob, you bastard!


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Don Henley Sues..

Those copyright laws are here again.

Apr 18, 2009

CNN reports that The Eagles' founder Don Henley has filed a lawsuit against a Republican U.S. Senate candidate for supposedly misusing two of his songs. The suit, filed Friday in a California federal court, claims Charles DeVore used "The Boys of Summer" and "All She Wants to Do Is Dance" without prior approval from Henley. DeVore posted YouTube campaign videos that used the tunes, according to the suit.

Seeya soon xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Bob

Location: Porterville Ca

Subject: The Message

I've got a message alive and true Jesus is alive for me and You He took my life and made it new He can do it for You to Jesus is alive and do'n fine always have him on my mind Jesus is alive and do'n well Just ta keep your soul from going to hell


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Hypothetical 1980

Automatic reaction: Levon and Rick. I don't know why, and will have to think about it, but it was my immediate response / first thought. You should trust those.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Bob, it's ok.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: To George Harrison's atar on HWOF and new album coming out in June.

Seeya soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Bob Beeman

Location: Porterville Ca

Subject: Remember the castle

Injoyed harmonizing Sorry I didn't show up. Glad you got it together. Back in Portsmouth Bob


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Posted by:

Friend0

That is a cool video Mike. It's been around before. I'm not sure if it was posted directly here in the GB , or on Carol's site, but i think it surfaced maybe 2 months ago. I enjoyed it then, I enjoyed it again today.

The Woodstock Constables seemed to really have an affinity for the Band members. The constable that spoke at Richard's memeorial service, at the church on 212, had all us all in stitches and tears. You could tell he lost someone he cared about deeply.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Van Morrison

It is listed that Van Morrison will be on a repeat show from November 18th 2006, on PBS's "Austin City Limits" to night at 9PM.

Seeya xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Steve

Good to see IIkkA"s Dog has gotten over his\her barker's block.

Dlew, you pose the impossible question. It would depend on the song of course but I'd probably say Rick and Levon.

Thanks for not throwing J2Rs in there as well, I'd never be able to decide.


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Posted by:

Ilkka's Dog

Location: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mandrake, Xandros, Knoppix - depending on which one I manage to configure to connect to the internet today.

Subject: Linux in Macs

Peter V., don't believe in Mr. Hoiberg. I have heard things about him. He is just an errant sailor living in a skiff harbored in Bolingshavn in Kirkeoey, where ever that is. - Mix a bottle of wine with 1.5 liter of Ubuntu Cola and GET STARTED!!!


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "David The Director's" "Myspace" pg - director of the Woodstock vid doc.

David McDonald produced the Woodstock doc highlighted by Butch & Jan. Great guy who I believe resides in ME. It's his very 1st doc & I believe it's more of a hobby versus a job. The doc is very cool & he interviews a number of local folk & retrieves some interesting "The Band" member stories.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: I got to thinking....

A hypothetical. It's 1980, and you're a record producer. You have a song which would sound great with Band harmonies. Unfortunately, you can only afford 2 of the 3 (Levon, Rick and Richard). For sound union reasons, none will take a pay cut, nor work for free (Rick's manager is doing the negotiations). Which two do you pick? (I won't ask why, but if you have a reason, you may give it.)


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Posted by:

Friend0

Anyone in Los Angeles, area, Jimmy Vivino has upcoming dates at Cozy's, in Sherman Oaks. The band has Barry Goldberg, Gary Mallaber, and Rick Reid as well. Landmark, do we hold book on odds for RR showing? Sooner or later, they gotta meet, if haven't yet. Probably gonna be a decent amount of Band songs getting played in Sherman Oaks. And with Delta Groove records out there , one of the few Blues labels that is successful at getting a lot of releases out these days probably Vivino will be cutting blues records out there.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Interesting name for the campaign linked above.

Wonder who has what to say about it.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Heaven's Gate

Just watched it for the first time in years - interested in what people think. And, it has a Band connection - anyone know what that might be? (I do..)


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Posted by:

rollie(jeff Newsom)

Web: My link

Subject: Butch's film clip

Hey Butch-- Is that David Boyle at the end of that film clip you posted???---Rollie


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Congrats to "Ollabelle's" Fi & Tony on their new baby girl.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Error

I meant Eaglesmith, of couse.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: F. J. Eaglesmith and R. C. Danko

“Drive-In Movie” (1996), by Fred Eagleton, is considered by some to be his best album. (On the question of what is best, I hold no opinion. “Tinderbox” is indeed a powerful creation.)

Four songs from “Drive-In Movie” -- bracketing the centerpiece, “White Rose” (of which you might say, “No one sings it like Fred”) -- remind me a lot of Rick Danko:

“Crashin’ & Burnin’ ”

“Wilder Than Her”

“Good Enough"

“Soda Machine”

I can almost hear Rick singing when I listen to these tracks.

Which makes me wonder, did RCD ever perform any FJE songs?


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: What's the diddley with Bo?

Just between me and you, I thought the dog was named Boo, at least that was the Lobo (Kent Lavoie) song. The story's convoluted, like everything coming out of Washington, but Obama's young dog changed hands and names before arriving at the White House. I believe Sen. Kennedy never actually had possession of the dog, but merely interceded when the dog's original purchasers returned it to the breeder. Something doesn't seem right about the Senator's affection for a breed of dog associated with water.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Thanks Sadavid - Dylan's latest nod to Lightfoot

Bob Dylan comments on some of his favorite songwriters:

Who are some of your favorite songwriters?

Buffett I guess. Lightfoot. Warren Zevon. Randy. John Prine. Guy Clark. Those kinds of writers.

What songs do you like of Buffett’s?

DEATH OF AN UNPOPULAR POET. There’s another one called HE WENT TO PARIS.

You and Lightfoot go way back.

Oh yeah. Gordo’s been around as long as me.

What are your favorite songs of his?

SHADOWS, SUNDOWN, IF YOU COULD READ MY MIND. I can’t think of any I don’t like.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Illkka

Just talked with Tipper and while she confirms her husband is a Deadhead - she strongly denies he's the Devil.....She also mumbled something about Dick Cheney not inventing the internet...reception was bad....typical for Cadillac's


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: new Allen Toussaint

Former The Band collaborator gets 4 stars in this review.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Todd/ Tour buses

From what I've heard about Willie's tour bus, perhaps there was a "Smoking" and "No Smoking" bus. :-D


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: dylan and the deadpan

Further to the one-liners linked recently, Bob opines on Mick, Adolf et al..


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: No Bo...No Bo...No Bo

Todd: I lose sleep over talentless hacks getting slots on international tours in support of massive stars that should use those coveted openings for people that really need it. Shame on Willie Nelson and his people.

As to the dog,……..Off on the wrong foot with me when a “not suitable for children/not from a shelter” dog that has been sharing cocktails with a bum like Ted Kennedy enters the fray. To top it all off…they named the little critter after one of my favorite guitar players……The first puncture in the Obama balloon as far as I am concerned………..


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Macs and Linux

Replacing Mac OS X with Linux on an Apple computer is:

a) Not recommended unless you are an expert-level Linux user and/or one of those all-software-must-be-free-and-pure disciples.

b) Rather unnecessary since you have all the Unix/Linux tools and goodies available from the terminal/command line anyway, as OS X is built upon that "other free Unix-clone", Open BSD.

c) Pretty stupid IMHO -- the OS X GUI is far superior to both Windows and the Linux desktop environments.

Btw, Ilkka, did you know your canine friend has Win XP installed in his dog house? :-)


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Lord Thunderin Jesus

You crazy Nordic Guy, the internet was invented by one of your god's, Al Thor!

If I remember my Norse mythology, Linux was Thor's trusty dog/helper. It was Linux, if my memory serves me well, who always brought back Thor's hammer when he threw in battle. Of course Linux wore his "cloak of invisibility" when he went to war with Thor so it appeared that the hammer always came back on its own.


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again)

Subject: Linux on Mac

To Peter V. - Did you know that you can install Linux in your Mac. It is like to have Jahve (and his/her or his+her Christian derivate) and Allah in the same prayer book (BTW thanks Norbert!) or Levon and Robbie in the same band.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Zzzz, glad to hear that the Billy Bob thing isn't getting you down. Life's too short to worry about that, although it was an interesting diversion. :-)

The other night on my way home from work (April 15), I drove by the theater here in CT where Willie Nelson & Billy Bob & The Boxmasters were playing. I was curious to see how the show would be billed on the marquee. ie: "Billy Bob & The Boxmasters" or just "The Boxmasters". As it turns out, the only name on the marquee was Willie Nelson. Must have been a big show though. There were a LOT of tour busses there. Maybe each band member gets their own bus? Haven't seen any reviews yet, but I'm sure things went just fine.

Kevin J. Try not to lose any sleep over the new White House dog "Bo". I'm very confident that President Obama will turn out to be an excellent dog owner!


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Wed Apr 15 18:10:27 CEST 2009 from 21cust42.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.42)

Devil invented the internet.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Levon's April 4th "Midnight Ramble" set list.

Ophelia
Same Thing
Battle Is Over
Simple Twist
Bye Bye My Love
Drown In My Own Tears
Long Black Veil
Got Me A Woman
Ashes of Love
Did You Love Me
Deep Elum Blues
All La Glory
Train Robbery
Holy Cow
Anna Lee
Rag Mama Rag
Mardi Gras Day
Black Friday
Rock and Roll Shoes
Everybody Loves A Winner
Time Out for the Blues
King Harvest
The Shape I'm In
Chest Fever
The Weight


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Sure Does dlew

Just ribbing Steve, always enjoy y'all. Every body is just busy I guess..........gotta go


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Electric Mist - Susan Boyle - Jeff Beck

The above clip is Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck at 2009 RRHOF. If this doesn't get Julie out of hiding - nothing will Westcoaster!

Bertrand Trevernier directed one of my favorite films “Round Midnight” so when I saw that he had directed “Electric Mist” I was looking forward to seeing it……….as it turns out – it is a real mess but far from unwatchable. Tommy Lee Jones is great as always but the “cuts” to the film stand out so strongly (every 15 minutes or so) that it is obvious that whoever did this had absolutely no regard for what the finished product would look like. I enjoyed the story enough to want to see the directors cut. Funny sidebar: Levon’s first few lines seemed more directed at the story of the Band than to the character of Tommy Lee Jones. All about friendship and not letting anything get between groups of people……that’s how I read it anyway! Too much time here perhaps………………

That story of the frumpy Scottish singer winning over the talent contest crowd in the UK was a nice one. Beautiful voice. Let’s hope that she gets some good people at her side soon so that the inevitable star making process doesn’t just rip her up and take all of that spirit away. I also wish that this would be one fell swoop to end all the no talent/Ken&Barbie/celebrity culture BS but one look at the crowd’s initial reaction to her appearance lets you know that this won’t happen. Even I am guilty of wanting to know who that blond on the panel was………..

Don’t get me wrong…I like Obama…..but when your own dog doesn’t know the difference between his own name ( Bo ) and a command of “No” – it’s a little discomforting to the rest of us - is it not?


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Don't worry Norm - I'm here too...

That's gotta count for SOMETHING, right?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I'm sunk!

That's all I got to look forward? The gospel according to Steve.......for the rest of my life?

Yup.......I'm sunk........goodbye cruel world.....aaiiiee!


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Winterland

Thank you Mike & Kim for your posts. See link for Elliott Landy photo of Robbie preparing for the Winterland concert.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Today marks the 40th anniversary of "The Band's" 1st live performance held @ "Winterland."


Entered at Thu Apr 16 22:33:24 CEST 2009 from (85.255.44.145)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: "The Mountain"

Who thought it could be possible to top Steve Earle and The Del McCoury Band's 1999 original... amazing stuff from our man, this is (link above). Go buy the album. Now. Available from levonhelm.com.


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Posted by:

Mike

Joan: That's a riot. My folks just ret'd a bit ago from an NC golf trip & spent a couple of days in Fredericksberg, VA on the return trip to catch some Rev. & Civil War sites. They came back w/ a lot of interesting stuff.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Very overdue book

For the Civil War Buffs. This is what i Call REALLY overdue!


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Thanks dlew919 & Joan!


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Posted by:

Steve

Don't fret Norm you know you can count on me to be here no matter what you post.

Thanks Charlie, sounds like the shoemakers' kids with no shoes syndrome.

Hope all you Cohen fans heard the interview with Jian Ghomeshi this morning. Leonard probably did the most fact filled interview you could hope for. He holds nothing back, doesn't sidestep any questions and he's incredibly humble for such a talented and successful guy. I especially liked the small things he'd throw in like the fact he lets some of his neighbors use his clothes washer when he's not living in his home in Montreal. He lets the neighbors use it just because it's such a damn good washer. Leonard's home, like himself, is very modest. It must get used a fair amount when he's in LA or touring since the first thing he does on returning there is replace the burnt out lightbulbs.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Mike & Kim

Thank you for all the good stuff. It is appreciated.


Entered at Thu Apr 16 17:17:56 CEST 2009 from (207.81.196.79)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hear Ye! Hear Ye!!

How in hell do we call a meeting to order when no body shows up.

The Tull kid ain't around, Bumbles just up and bails on us. The Tennessee Stud disappeared. Most all the girls are gone, and a list of guys too long to write.

Was it something I said?????????

I guess by now every one has seen the Scottish lady that sings like an angel?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Baseball and Music

Steve: the Washington Nationals are owned by a parking lot magnate named Lerner and his son. Ironically--or appropriately--there is very little afforable parking near the ballpark. The expected economic boom near the facility is on hold and the neighborhood isn't exactly warm and friendly like Camden Yards in Baltimore (still the best place to see a game in my book).

Two nights ago in DC, Tipper Gore sat in on drums for "Sugar Magnolia" during the four-hour evening The Dead presented for loving fans of all ages. I wasn't there, preferring to listen online to an achived Grateful Dead show I saw in Baltimore in 1973. Those were the days...


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Congratualations Mike and Kim

Always enjoy and appreciate your posts, even if I don't always say so!


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Posted by:

Mike & Kim

Web: My link

Subject: "Plochmann Lane" blog's one-yr anniversary. Thank you!

Today marks the one-year anniversary of the start of our "Plochmann Lane" blog & we have Jan Hoiberg to blame for all of our fun & experiences. He recommended we create such an animal so that he could link many pics we took while on an early '08 Woodstock, NY trip. Thanks to everyone who have contributed, participated & read our hobby. We have met, both personally & virtually, an amazing number of folks & would not trade it for the world. It's just an ongoing musical history lesson for both of us. We have posted a heartfelt thanks to all of those who have supported & assisted us. We look forward to the next yr (& hopefully, many more) experiences. Thanks again.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: There goes Robert E. Lee straight to DVD...

The film was indeed adapted from the James Lee Burke novel "In The Electric Mist with Confederate Dead", with Tommy Lee Jones in the role of Dave Robicheaux. The lovely Mary Steenburgen, who also appeared with Levon in "End of the Line", plays Bootsie Robicheaux.

I read an interview recently with the director Bertrand Tavernier, who mentioned that when he showed Levon's scenes to Mr. Burke, the author said that Levon "looks just like Robert E. Lee!" Reportedly, Mr. Tavernier had a falling out with the film's producers, and the version that went straight to DVD here in the U.S. is a shortened producers cut, rather than the director's version which received some acclaim at a Berlin film festival. An all-too-familiar Hollywood post-production drama in itself.


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Posted by:

scott

Location: nova scotia cna


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Levon as Hood?

By God, but he looks like him.

(No judgement - Levon's an actor, playing a part, but boy does he look like him)


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

I don't know if this link was posted yet or not, but anyone who hasn't seen Susan Boyle's peformance yet would probably enjoy seeing this.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Bassman, I sure can relate. Harry Kalas has been the voice of the Phils since 1971. He was a treasured member of the community and will be missed for a long, long time. Last summer I sent a fax to Harry asking him to acknowledge my son Chris' safe return from his first tour in Iraq and we had the pleasure of hearing that great voice welcome Chris and his brother to the ballpark on the air.

There's a nice twist to the story as Harry the K was able to broadcast the World Series last year for the Phils while his son Todd did the same for the Tampa Bay Rays. Harry was also there for this year's ring ceremony and threw out the first pitch that day. He was a great broadcaster and, by every account, an even greater guy.


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Posted by:

Steve

Isn't Hood the ass who liked to send his men out on suicidal fights to bring a little discipline to his army, at least to those who survived?

Hey Charlie, are you ready to send those Nationals back north yet? We have a semi pro league here that they'd probably do quiet well in. Who owns the team?


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Posted by:

Joe

Subject: Out of the mist with Lucy

Levon's dog Lucy, the mother of his dog Muddy's pups, came from "The Electric Mist" film location in Louisiana. She was a stray that began hanging around the set and that Levon later brought home by private jet when he left. Lucky dog huh ?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Charlie: I hope Mr Obama avoided the Kool-Aid.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Speaking of the Dead, it appears that every song except one on the forthcoming Bob Dylan album was co-written by Dead lyricist Robert Hunter.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: White House visit, Electric Mist

The Dead musta got the schedule slot our beloved Phils gave up after our even more beloved Harry the K passed suddenly on Monday. Those of you outside the Philly Zone might know him as the (recent) voice of NFL films, but here he was an institution, the play-by-play announcer for our team for thirty-some years. The tributes here have been tremendous, and the public remembrance this weekend may rival the championship parade last fall. My world has lost a truly good friend - although we never met, he was literally in my head many days as I puttered in the garden with the 'phones on. Bob W. can probably relate.

Is this Electric Mist film based on the James Lee Burke book? Out of all his I've read that might be the toughest (but most seductive for a director) to adapt. Personal hauntings are hard to depict on-screen. 'Been reading Burke's latest, set during Katrina...while also watching Spike Lee's 'When The Levees Broke'...scary stuff, and if you haven't, do.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: southern Ulster County

Subject: John Bell Hood

PAT- Before The War Between the States, a young John Bell Hood earned a reputation as a gambler. He once bet $2,500 on a hand that didn't even have a pair. Hood won the hand, but the story became legend. When Union Gen William Sherman faced off against Hood's army near Atlanta, he used Hood's gambling nature to his own advantage. Hood had nerve, but "Cump" had a superior force. The law of averages caught up with Hood at the battles of Peachtree, Atlanta, and (later) Franklin.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Charlie, the movie went straight to DVD here in the States. btw, John Hood was a massive man who lost a leg and the use of one arm during the Civil War.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Levon Plays Confederate General?

According to the Internet Movie Database, Levon plays General John Bell Hood in a new Tommy Lee Jones film which was released today in France. The plot summary has a "Twilight Zone" feel with a modern murder investigation taking a side road into the Civil War era. The name of the film is "In the Electric Mist." Any relation to "Electric Dirt?"


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Change Has Come

The surviving members of The Grateful Dead plus a couple of bandmates including the amazing Warren Haynes met with President Obama in the Oval Office yesterday before their show in DC last night. I'd say change has come.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bassman, just google CBC radio Q. Go to the site and every show is archived and available on podcast. The show is also on Sirius 137.

Besides the people you mentioned, off the top of my head I'd add, Bruce Cockburn, Ray Davies, Elvis Costello, Alanis Morisette, Neko Case, Lilly Allen, David Lynch, Martha Reeves and of course, Gordon Lightfoot.

Tomorrow is the Leonard Cohen interview which will be done from Leonard's home in Montreal.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: Jian Ghomeshi

Here's a barometer: According to Wikipedia, "Ghomeshi mixes opinions and interviews with subjects who have included Francis Ford Coppola, Jane Goodall, Bob Geldof, Michael Moore, Radiohead, Jimmy Wales, and former Prime Minister Paul Martin." And HE "bobbles" an interview with the high and mighty Billy Bob? Cut me a break.

Actually his resume is pretty impressive. I knew of him from the late, much lamented, and mostly hilarious Moxy Fruvous, who were pretty popular round these parts. Makes me wish I could get his show. Is there a web stream?


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Test

SNAFU


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Posted by:

Pat B

You can definitely see John Simon conducting the horn section during Caravan. And Bobby Charles is standing next to Butterfield during ISBR.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: your TV guide

David Letterman has Neko Case tonight.

No word on special guest musicians, but one can hope.

Echoes of _Blonde on Blonde_, that's a bitchin' Cougar on her album cover . . . .


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Comfortably Numb

And the appearance of one artist at The Last Waltz was altered somewhat for the final cut of the film. :-:)


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Posted by:

K

Subject: ?

And isn't Stephen Stills one of the people who moves aside when Richard starts to sing the second verse of"I shall be released?" Or am I getting him mixed up with.....He wasn't in the theatrical version of the film was he?


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Posted by:

David P.

Does "Pinetop" Perkins appear in the film?


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: ?

Technically, I think you can actually see John Simon and Bobby Charles briefly in the film, can't you? I guess if they aren't billed on the marquee, it doesn't really count?...just curious...last post for awhile.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 24KT Gold brown album

Just got back to find The Band gold 24KT remaster had arrived. I immediately put on the existing Capitol remaster and listened through King Harvest, then put the gold one on to compare. As David says it’s fabulous … more like analogue definitely, but the rattle of guitar chords in the closing piece is startling. On the Get Up Jake bonus track, Rick Danko’s bass has an added level of “fruitiness” (I think that’s the best word). But generally the Capitol one sounds harsh in comparison. The rest I’m saving till later, after I’ve had dinner (and some red wine).


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Robbie Boxset

The question was:THE BAND OK... HERE WE GO. What 2 artists appear on the last waltz soundtrack BUT DO NOT appear in the film??? And the answer.....John Simon and Bobby Charles. I got one of them....


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Robbie

Is anybody in the GB going to try and win the Robbie signed boxset over on Facebook? I imagine it would be easy for most of you to get the correct answer.

I was also saddened by the news of the female soldier, and just by the simple fact that it continues to happen. Not to mention the death of Safia Amajan, which I found particularly unnerving. She was one of the biggest female rights activists and campaigned passionately against legalized marital rape. She was set to come and visit her family in Canada when she was killed. For every step towards equal human rights for all, it seems there are two steps taken back.


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Posted by:

David P.

bob w: I guess your post slipped by me. What's amazing to me is that, not only is Mr. Saadiq a talented singer & songwriter, but he also plays guitar, bass & drums on most of the tracks in the studio.


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Posted by:

bob w.

David, I posted a few weeks back about a friend's experience seeing Raphael Saadiq at WXPN's World Cafe Live in Philadelphia. He raved about the show. As I mentioned previously, Saadiq is a former member of Tony! Toni! Toné!.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: This Ain't Your Old Time Religion, God No!

I'm listening to a program on religion and the net. Two of the standouts for me were a site where you can go and pay some cash and a computer with a humanistic\computeristic voice will say your prayers for you if you just don't have the time but do have the cash. This site also does confessions for Catholics who don't have the time to hustle down to the sin bin for a priestly one.

Muslims can use another site to do their Hajj for them to Mecca. You pay for an avatar that sets out from your place on the earth to Mecca. You can check in and see the progress. Paying more cash gives your avatar more options for travel, plane vs bicycle or train or sticking out its virtual thumb. I have this image in my head of thousands of avatars circling the Kaaba in a counter clockwise direction.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Rafael Saadiq

David, I've just 'discovered' this artist. Heard him only through downloads but I have ordered his CD and am looking forward to it. So much music. So little time.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Two I've been listening to

When I mentioned the wonderful new Audio Fidelity gold CD version of the Brown Album the other day I neglected to mention that the original mono single mix of "Get Up Jake" is included as a bonus cut.

Another CD that I've been playing a lot lately is Raphael Saadiq's "The Way I See It" (Columbia/Sony). The owner of a local independent record store recommended it to me, saying that it was the best R&B album he's heard in a couple decades. I would have to agree, as it transports you back in time to the Motown/Stax era.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Serenity: thanks for the reminder about Elvis's show - one of the very few things on TV that I make a point of watching. The folks at CTV were by all accounts elated at the numbers of viewers - for the initial show with Elton J, at any rate - so Elvis could do follow-on season(s) if he wants to. I'm afraid the snoozer of the bunch will be when he brings the missus on stage . . . . But you must watch your spelling - it's 'spectacle' as a pun on the horn-rims; 'spestacle' invites comparison to the Secret Policeman series . . . . The irony of the William Robert Thornton story, of course, is that it is a story - there is, they say, no such thing as bad publicity. Which is not to say that he engineered it that way, he doesn't seem clever enough. I think his feeble quantum of common sense and good judgement was overcome by ego and overindulgence in something or other, and he reverted to his default personality of stunned-and-crabby. Had he behaved halfway normal, the interview would have sunk without a trace.


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Posted by:

Mike

Ari: Robbie's son Sebastian is the writer.


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Posted by:

Steve

Dlew, as usual, even when he doesn't actually do the writing he takes credit for everything that's written. Ho, Ho, Ho.

The full interview with Leonard is tomorrow at 10am on Q.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I reckon Bobby Bill suffers from paranoia and had mentally worked out that he was going to be attacked so misread the intro as what he feared would happen so went into shut down. Going back to the Bruce Willis comparison, it’s easy to be gracious when you’re winning. When you’re number two in the chart, questions like “Are you really a musician /singer?” are fielded by “Dunno. 250,000 people seem to think I am.” Bruce also got his pick of backing guys AND (in the UK at least) his records are on the Motown label. What more could you ask? I can’t remember the chronology but thought his singing career was launched by doing a couple of things on “Moonlighting” where his secret was a winning smile.


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Posted by:

k

Subject: Nope

"Born to be wild" was the song.... Whew. Serenity-Thank you for the link. What a voice indeed.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Ari

I'd guess Robbie isn't writing it, but he is okaying everything that goes up.


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Posted by:

K

Subject: Say it ain't so!

Quentin Tarrintino is on American Idol tonight so I decided to watch.... They are singing "songs from the movies," and apparently someone will be singing a song from "Easy Rider" after the commercial break....As much as I would like to hear someone sing"don't bogart that joint" on American idol, I am pretty sure it will more likely be "the weight."....I don't know if I can watch...


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Web: My link

Aaaah Todd, the moment has passed... Don't worry about me... not really troubled... got what I needed from the dialogue... I just share a different opinion and attitude from the pack this time... and on to something else now... for me... But thanks, I think... hehehe...


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Absolute Contrast

I have just finished watching young Gomeshi interview Leonard Cohen, and what a easy enjoyable show to watch. Who ever may not watch or know Gomeshi, he, as young George Stropolopolis are very good at what they do, other wise they wouldn't be there.

Gomeshi, interviewing an Icon like Leonard Cohen, treated him with the respect and admiration he deserves. I'm not a constant CBC viewer, but I've seen Gomeshi quite a few times, and he is pretty damn smooth always, as I said, that is why he is where he is.

There may be people who don't know, that the young guy is asmatic, and does some "different" breathing a lot of the time. I don't see how, but maybe this is cause for some misunderstanding.

Any way, the interview with Leonard was a contrast, because it showed how smooth and easy it can be, and was a pleasure to watch.


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Posted by:

R.I.P. Mark the "Bird" Fidrych age 54


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: You gotta hear this voice. Only goes to prove that looks aren't everything when it comes to good talent.

Dave Letterman has the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on tonght and Neko Case on Wednesday.

CTV Friday, 10PM "Spestacle: Elvis Costello with... "Showcasing songwriting from some of the best-known and loved tunes of the past 40 years". GUESTS: Kris Kristofferson, Norah Jones, Roseanne Cash and John Mellencamp".

NORM: It was very sad news about that young female soldier who was killed. Brought tears to my eyes.

TODD: Ironic that I was playing the Monkees CD today. It's a goodie. I bought it in a tin box. Very unusual.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Todd

Subject: Rilly Bob Redux

I actually like Billy Bob quite a bit, although I’m mostly familiar with Billy Bob the actor. (I’m pretty sure that I’m not under embargo and am free to describe him as such). He can be quite brilliant in the way he handles his roles, and although he received a lot of accolades for his Sling-Blade character, I really liked him in the Bandits movie. It gave his sense of humor a chance to shine. I wasn’t shocked by his interview…just puzzled by why he would let the situation get to the point that it did, at the expense of his band-mates who he presumably cares about. On one hand, he obviously didn’t want the interview to be all about him, but that’s where let it go.

We keep hearing about how he didn’t want the interview questions to be about his acting career. Aside from a very very brief mention of it in the intro (Oscar winning screenwriter and actor). In journalism it's pretty standard to cover the Who, What, Where, When, and How. The intro just touched on some of the "who". ie: "who is this guy?". I didn’t think that the interviewer was trying to sandbag Billy Bob at all. It was a classic case of over-reaction. Or maybe Billy’s just not a morning person. And if Billy Bob really wanted it to be about the music, and he’s the drummer in the group, why didn’t he bring his drums so he could demonstrate that he is in fact a musician? I’m not buying his excuse that he doesn’t drag his drums around at 6AM. From what I’ve heard, the actual time of the interview was 9 or 10 AM. Hell, he should take a cue from Levon the musician and actor, who manages to get his drums into the studio whenever Imus has him as a guest usually starting at the real 6 AM.

Although I do like Billy Bob and recognize his talent, I do sometimes get the feeling that everything he does has a certain element of it being a bit of a “send-up”…..that it’s done with a knowing wink and a nod. At other times I think that maybe he’s just not comfortable in his own skin. Before the interview, I was prepared to give Billy the benefit of the doubt and consider him as a serious and passionate musician. After seeing and hearing the interview and after thinking about it a little more, I’m more and more convinced that this is just another character for him. It’s fine to be insolent, if that’s your thing, but it needs to be earned.

I think the mashed potato & gravy thing was just an unfortunate slip said without much thought behind it. I doubt that he really intended to insult all of Canada. Just the ones that don’t appreciate his “art”. I think the Canadian fans were well justified to give it back to him at the show.

I think that the thing that bothers me the most is that our friend Zzzz is troubled by this. I appreciate the fact that Billy Bob might be misunderstood, and I get that. But I think that Billy Bob will be OK in the long run.

Coincidently, I happened to listen to an interview with Mike Nesmith yesterday. There was a lot of discussion about the Monkees not being a “real” band. Mike said that they were all actors pretending to be a band, and eventually they did become a real band to some degree. He seemed comfortable with his place in all of it. At the end of the interview he sat down with his acoustic guitar and sang a song, and showed that he is a musician. I guess it’s a good thing that he brought his instrument to the interview. Instead of needing to be introduced as a musician, he simply demonstrated that he was one.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Is that actually Robbie talking on his wall, or is it someone else?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Well Said!

Kevin J,& Lars; As both of you make a point of acting like gentlemen all the time,( A feat I've never mastered). Both of your comments, are well to the point.

I'd like to add, there are many actors, (example Keeanue Reeves) and many others, such as our own Michael J Fox from Burnaby who are great musicians, ( Michael J, is a SMOKIN' guitar picker.) many actors are great singers, and leave it on the back burner to pursue their careers.

If from time to time they decide to surface into something, "for whatever reason" they are treated with respect in whatever their pursuit may be. I believe this is the main reason, no one has to say, "FORGET ABOUT THE REST OF MY LIFE AND SHUT UP ABOUT IT". I certainly don't see the reason. Isn't that the ideaoligy behind humility.

I've fought through a very sad day. Some things, just stay with you, don't matter how you try to shake them. Upon my usual, up at 06:00 put on the coffee and turn on the news this morning. The first thing to greet my eyes on the news was the picture of a very pretty young lady, who only just arrived in Afganistan from Canada, and was killed in a road side bombing. As my youngest, Amanda, is now 26, and having her first baby, I looked at that young lady, and thought how her mom and Dad must have to deal with this. It stayed with me all day.

Now we all just got to pray to give them, and all other parents whose sons and daughters are over there, giving to humanity, to have the strength to deal with this. How in hell do you make sense out of your beautiful young daughter being blown up by a road side bomb. It wasn't even my daughter, and I don't get over this that easy.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: !

I suppose I could have just read about it on Jan's website....


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Yea, but Bruce Willis is the Die Hard Action Hero... recently married to a young chick too... Billy Bob in Deadman wore a dress... asked Johnny Depp how he got his hair so soft... and then argued with his buddies, Iggy included... that the Phillistine was "his" until they were all dead... Just to show that I'm not mad... or really taking this all that serious... I did wonder whether or not... when he was saying... "I don't know what you mean."... whether or not he was really soooo into character... i.e. Boxmusicdude... that he blocked out all knowledge of prior acting roles... It's hard to tell tone in e-land... and hey, nobody overseas died because Billy didn't get gravy... and decided to system shutdown versus throwing crap and screaming obscenities... Geez, why can't the bus kids do system shutdown after my daily opening monologue...


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Mercury Rev

Is everybody in the Gb familiar with the Mercury Rev album"Deserter's songs?" I just discovered it and was surprised to find, when reading about the making of the album, that Levon and Garth played on it! A really fantastic album....


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Posted by:

Peter V

When Bruce Willis was promoting his singles (four chart entries, one at #7, one at #2 in the UK), he fielded comments on it being a "vanity enterprise" with a smile and a joke. That's the only way to play it. And Bruce,unlike Billy Bob, was actually successful in chart and airplay terms.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Sounds like that Imperial Stout would be very much to my liking David. (Great Masters this week, BTW. Bobby J. would've been proud). Steve, you're absolutely right about stout being more of a winter drink. That's why it's such a big item in Ireland where it's basically winter year-round. I have indeed tasted the chocolate stouts. My fave is one brewed by the Crannagh organic micro-brewery in Sorrento, BC. It's got an even more colourful moniker than "Happy Ending" mentioned by David. It's called "The Back Hand of God". Whether the brewer sees God as a tennis player or a hockey player, I really couldn't say but I have to go with hockey, being a Canadian brewery and all.

Now, if Bowthayer isn't the little backwater village you live near Steve, just where the hell is it ? NB


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Actually Sadavid, upon reflection... during my afternoon schoolbus route... while kids were throwing crap at me... I realized what's really bugging me about the Billy Bob fiasco... It's that everybody really knows what's going on from the start... and the interviewer knows too... and blows it... and yet the Pink GB decency police for sensitive Canadians still rush to a quick judgment... and totally ignore the real issue... I wonder what the interview would have been like if CBC hadn't flubbed it... and searched for some friggin' art... instead of commodity... Granted Billy Bob's own website is hilarious in how the acting link is right next to the music link... but besides that logic... his real sin was really only calling his fans mashed potatoes w/o gravy... which I'm wondering whether or not that's not racist in some way... Maybe he should go on Imus and together they can explore it more... or maybe he should just be wacked with a red Robbie Robertson Telecaster reissue or something (Willie's would break)... In regards to audience comparisons, he probably should have gone for subtle mixed with footbal... and said something along the lines of "You guys do seem to punt on 3rd down a lot."... Well anyway, I knew what he meant... and most warmup acts aren't gonna say that the opening act's audience is their favorite, eh... And I pulled my goalie for this one, so the net is now wide open for the decency police to score the winning goal...


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Posted by:

Kristie

Web: My link

Subject: For the love of the Mountains


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Kevin

I am beginning to think You should have a radio show!


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Hop Heads

I recently sampled an Imperial Stout from Sweetwater, a local microbrewery, sold under the provocative name of Happy Ending. It had a nice smooth taste, but at 9% alcohol, can really sneak up on you.

A friend & I used to perfrom regularly at a bar that brewed its own beers & ales. It was quite popular with beverage connoisseurs, a few who referred to themselves as "hop heads", as the brewmaster was known for his over-hopping skills. Part of the pleasure for us playing there was an unlimited, free bar tab.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bulwer, Northern Boy, Bulwer. No, I think I'll try something easy like a dark ale before I hop to something like a stout. I'm brewing something for summer consumption, I prefer stout in the winter. Ever try any chocolate beers? I tried one in Woodstock that was made in NY City. It was great, I may go down that road as well in my rejuvenated brewing career.

Maple syrup is like freaking gold now, it's doubled in price in the last two years. The season is so screwy now that the climate has started to change, oh it ain't like it used to be.

Kevin, funniest thing you've ever said in the GB. I'm talking about Tom, Stompin Thornton into Bud The Spud.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Stout-Hearted Men

Stevon Farm: You posted your stout recipe once. Are you going to be making any of that ? If you were to make a big batch of that, and then make an equally big batch of maple syrup but all boiled down to the darkness of Guinness, you'd be making it EXTREMELY difficult for me to NOT come down and visit you in that little podunk town of yours, Bowthayer, or whatever the heck it's called. NB


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Thanks Sadavid, makes it harder for Billy...


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: that Billy Bob non-terview

See the link for a "for the record" comment from the radio show's executive producer.


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Web: My link

This link sums it up for me... If you can set aside your personal dislike of the guy... then maybe... ahhh, forget about it... Hopefully, he didn't wear a pink scarf at any time... If he didn't, he might be able to get over this... wink wink... Geez, anybody figure out why did that lady jump into that polar bear pool... Hey Lars, maybe our favorite good looking Dudley Dooright tugboat singin' capetain... was in there... or sumpin'... and she just couldn't resist... Or maybe she just had enough of Billy Bob in her e-life...


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Woodstock

Got this link in my email today. The Anniversary Box set.


Entered at Tue Apr 14 18:54:48 CEST 2009 from mail1.eastcoastwf.com (72.44.128.186)

Posted by:

bob w.

Kevin, well said. I thought the interviewer did a very tasteful and appropriate introduction and if Thornton had any class he could have easily moved the conversation along without that hideous display of misguided ego.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Trees

Subject: climbing to success

NORM- I miss you old buddy. I got a swamp maple hung up in the branches of its neighboring trees and I wish you were here to climb up and make the cut. BTW, I might have sounded a little down because being your manager for only 40% of this new CD has me feeling the pressure. Just remember we're trying to create a mystique here. Did you find a Nehru jacket yet?

This Billy Bob Thornton deal reminds me of the Carnegie Hall show when the Bacon Bros. opened for The Band. I never knew Kevin Bacon was a musician. I only know he's been in a lot of good movies (including "End of the Line" with Levon). So I was surprised to see him up on stage with his brother, talking about how he USED to be an actor. He's been in movies since, so I don't know what that was all about.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Canadians

Kevin, I totally agree with you. So many of our entertainers are Canadian. Music, Comedy. Off the top of my head, The Band (minus Levon), Paul Schaffer, Mike Myers, Lorne Michaels and many more. Billy Bob does not merit the time we have given him.


Entered at Tue Apr 14 18:36:08 CEST 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1279277504.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.57.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Skin it..................

“Where did you go Mr. D.J.?

Did they take you off the air?

Was it something that you said to the corporation guys upstairs?” - Ray Davies

A few thoughts on the Billy Bob incident………….the reference to DJ was made a number of times and while an entirely innocent slip it does merit pointing out that this was not one of those visits to the local radio station where some guy/gal not quite pretty or stupid enough to be a VJ has found employment at the local FM station…………….a long way from that in fact. The CBC is or is very close to being the highest standard of radio in the world. That particular show is renowned for its extremely high standard of preparation and just overall respect shown to guests. Throw in a chance to do live music in a very good studio setting surrounded by top flight sound and engineering types and a performer could not ask for a better opportunity to promote themselves……….As to Thornton himself, others – particularly Westcoaster and Todd have already said it well, but I would add:

* I have absolute contempt for anyone in any field that feels that being accomplished in one area allows for an automatic pass into another field. Tastes vary but talent is either there or it isn’t. I do not like Celine Dion but recognize the enormous talent. I liked Miami Vice but just because Don Johnson waltzed around LA in he 80’s with Ronnie Wood in his band did not make him a Rock n Roll talent. He was laughable and so is Bill Bob The sad thing is that these guys have the money to surround themselves with very talented sidemen and given the scarcity of good paying gigs in the music business, one cannot blame anyone for taking such a job………

* Finally, the Mashed Potato thing rankles because it is so typical of a stereotype that could not be further from the truth. Canada is not some pinstriped polite little dweeb from Toronto that sits on his hands at sporting events – want some spice and good cheer go to the Maritimes or Montreal or the North and one will see the real Canada. Look at the toughness of our hockey players, farmers and the military men and women………That is Canada!.....I would love to see Bill Bob last 5 minutes in a bar on a Sudbury Saturday night………perhaps we should have Stompin Tom Connors do a tap dance on his head to see whether any gravy would be needed for what was left over…………………..


Entered at Tue Apr 14 17:01:51 CEST 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1279277504.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.57.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: The Killer

3 out of 4 ain’t bad…………..The Killer himself admitted that Chuck Berry took him out with just one punch in their one and only fight! The Killer talks about it in Hail Hail Rock n Roll – The great Chuck Berry doc.

Lars: I liked that story…..very true that sometimes an encounter with someone can change the way one looks at life.


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Posted by:

David P.

westcoaster: Nick Tosches also wrote an excellent biography of Jerry Lee back in the '80s entitled "Hellfire", which has been reissued in paperback.

sadavid: "Written In Chalk" is also available as a 2-LP version that contains 3 live cuts not included on the CD version.


Entered at Tue Apr 14 16:49:49 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Westcoaster: I thought it was Gary and the Hornets who say the Oscar Myer Weiner song in the '60s. Are you saying that they evolved into the Boxmasters? Wow!


Entered at Tue Apr 14 16:19:52 CEST 2009 from (207.81.196.79)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Jerry Jee - You really have to ask???

We've gone this route long ago. In the book, "Country The Biggest Music in America", by Nick Tocshes, an entire chapter is dedicated to Jerry Lee.

One quote, "Jerry Lee can out drink, out smoke, out fight, out fuck anybody." From Waylon Jennings, "Just don't get to close to him, and you won't get hurt."

Jerry Lee's insanity, was hereditary, and came quite naturally. One evening, his father was returning to the studio, driving Jerry Lee's Rolls Royce, going to pick Jerry Lee up. As he was drunk and driving quite irratically the cops came after him. Out on the freeway, he wound the Rolls up to, they figured about 120. Outdistancing the cops, he then pulled over and jumped in the back seat.

When the cops came up, opened the door and hauled him out, he cried. "Thank god you boys are here. That crazy man that was drivin' like to kill us both. he saw you comin', jumped out and ran in the bush over yonder."

Specter & Jerry Lee? Spector is a piss ant. Is there really 919 Louises David?

Lars, your getting to sound real mellow ol' buddy.

After reviewing all the input regarding Billy Bob Thornton's behaviour, there still is only one reallity. My personal opinion of him, is I loved watching Kirk Russell slap him in the mush a couple three times in Tombstone. I think he's an asshole to begin with. Whether the kid interviewing him was wrong or right, (all he did was acknowledge Thornton's history.) There was a very easy way to handle it, with any choice of words. We're here to discuss music, or, I asked that my past history be left out of this interview. Any number of ways.

His childish behaviour, and because he didn't like what this one person said, to take it out on Canadians as a whole. "Canadian music fans are mashed potaotes with out the gravy." Is chicken shit crap from an insignificant little puke, don't matter how many Oscars he's got. He's still just an Oscar Myer "Wiener"


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Killer

dlew919: I've met two people who managed to survive crossing paths with Jerry Lee Lewis, both now living in the Atlanta area. They both also played key roles in the legend of "The Killer". Myra, who was Jerry Lee's third cousin when she married him at age 13, later became a successful real estate agent here and wrote a book about her life on which the movie "Great Balls of Fire" was based. The other was Butch Owens, who was Jerry Lee's bassist and survived being shot twice in the chest with a .357 magnum pistol welded by the drunk & stoned Jerry Lee.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Waterloo, Arkansas ...

... must be the home of Buddy and Julie. Betcha there's a nice sunset there too. And maybe even a station?


Entered at Tue Apr 14 15:37:10 CEST 2009 from gpf-t200.gpnet.dnd.ca (131.137.245.200)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Buddy & Julie

_Mix_ magazine article about the recording of _Written in Chalk_. Also has a link to a facsimile of the CD booklet, which I thought was very, very well done - the notes are exceptionally well written.


Entered at Tue Apr 14 14:49:14 CEST 2009 from c-59-101-0-53.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.0.53)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Spector tragedy

But I have to ask - in a fight, who'd win: Spector or Jrry Lee Lewis...


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Robertson website in the works.

Robbie's son, Sebastian, recently commented to a fan on Robbie's official "Myspace" that an official website in his father's namesake is in the works.


Entered at Tue Apr 14 14:05:43 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Layla's Classic Rock" blog.

Operated by the same woman (Barbara) who runs the "Gone, But Not Forgotten" blog. Cool & frequently updated blog regarding anything classic rock-related.


Entered at Tue Apr 14 13:45:11 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Gone, But Not Forgotten" blog.

Includes listings for Rick & Richard. The blog author requests any info & stories about those musicians listed in the blog. Very nicely done.


Entered at Tue Apr 14 13:17:31 CEST 2009 from 21cust85.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.85)

Posted by:

Steve

Bob, good to see you took my information and followed up at Wiki. What you probably found there is really just the basics of a well informed opinion.

Don't put Wiki down, you're able to get a basic background on what I've been following for 30 years. You just need someone to mention something like the Islamic Courts and you can get a quick but superficial history lesson. Glad to be of help, anytime.

By the way if you had access to more of the history you wouldn't heap all the blame on the US, I wouldn't. If you were able to go back a little further you'd see that other regional players share in the blame. I don't have time to explain it to you at the moment but I think you're on the right track now. If you'd like I can throw out some more names for you to google. In the future, don't be shy, just ask.

Northern Boy, I have had the oatmeal St. A, but only once, it wasn't my favorite but trying a new beer is always worth it. Go for it.

Further on your second favorite topic after music, I'm resuming my beer brewing career. Not like in the old days when I actually grew some barley, malted it and tried to brew beer with it, only once though. Not recommended. I learned the hard way that I should stick with the commercial malt. I made beer from 77 to about 93. Much of it was top quality stuff and only about 10% of the cost of commercial beer. My only fear is my bottles are 22 oz(old Molson and Labatt bottles) and 32oz old soft drink bottles from the 50's and 60's.

I'm a one beer( 12 oz)a day drinker these days. What to do, what to do?


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Posted by:

Nathan

Subject: The Band's influence on The Beatles

If you like at The Beatles last photo shoot pictures and some of the Elliot Landy The Band photos don't they look quite similar.


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Posted by:

Peter V

In 2006, Ronnie Spector recorded The Last of the Rock Stars, with help from two people who’d recorded with Phil, Keith Richards and Joey Ramone. She added extra lyrics to the song Girl from The Ghetto. The song is about coming from Spanish Harlem (which Phil had written a song about). It includes this lyric:

Seems like kharma’s making its rounds

It’s my turn now, won’t be held down, no, no

I’m gonna visit you too

You’re gonna pay for the things you put me through

I hope you do, I hope you do, yeah, yeah

I hope your hell is filled with magazines

On every page you see a big picture of me

and under every picture the caption will read

Not bad for a girl from the ghetto like me.

The second time through, Ronnie changes “hell” to “cell.”

And she meant it. And it's come true.


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Posted by:

Rod

Location: NZ

Subject: electric dirt

Levon sounds great on the new track - even better than on Dirt Farmer. Looking forward to the release.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: On Phil Spector. Found "guilty" About time.Thought some of you might like to see the article.

Seeya soon xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Tommy Bankhead and The Blues El Dorados

The pre barnburners band name of o shea and leary put me in mind of Tommy Bankhead and The Blues El Dorados. Tommy was the real thing, going back to his teen years. Read his my space page. My friend Keith Doder was one of The Blues El Dorados. Please Mr Foreman is an incredible record. The song you'll hear on the my space page is an amazing , gorgoeus,& believable performance of the old standard, but in many ways is an untypical type of performance on this record. The record burns!. That's Keith you hear on harmonica. Keith is the guy put me in touch with Jimmie Lee Robinson. Keith is also a fine band leader is his own right. Also was Jimmy Rogers harp player for the last few years of Rogers life.

Night folks


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Scorcese's "New York, New York"

I'd never seen the Martin Scorcese's musical, "New York, New York," so when I spotted the DVD at my local public library the other day I grabbed it. I sat through about the first half hour before I started fast-forwarding through to just see the musical segments. I found it pretty unwatchable and it amazes me that Scorcese was working on this at the same time he was completing "The Last Waltz." The only connection I can see is the scarf Liza Minelli is wearing in the big title song musical finale reminds me of the one Robbie wears in TLW. I didn't spot the infamous fly...I think even he was bored and went to find a better grade of manure.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Ran into these, worth while viewing.

Above link to Jimmie Lee Robinson performing during his 81 or 82 day hunger strike to protest tthe destruction and commercialization of MAxwell Street & Jewtown( as he and many called the general area).

Like many old time old school blues performers, Jimmie was an accomplished all around performer. In many of his solo recordings you hear gypsy, classical, ragtime, jazzs, abnd all sorts of shit in his guitar playing. On bass, he was unique, had a sound. One of the first Chicago blues bassists. Below is a link to Jimmie on tour with Howlin wolf, John Lee Hooker in Europe in 1965

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyOrn73B0MY&feature=related

I knew Jimmie. Some. For a hort period.We met on the phone cause of a mututal friend. Talked a lot. Then we met in St Louis. The we talked on t he pohone a lot more. Usually for hours, Jimmie could talk,and ask good questions and it was worthwhile lsitening and talking. He was a very happy guy. Real happy, but had a lot of interests that dealt with serious matters. I remember how he wasn't feeling right, thought it started with a trip to the dentist. Found out he had severe cancer. Sat in his truck, blew his brains out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEtI7CQ0mVA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6mXnicdb7k&feature=related

above link Hiding from Canadian Customs agents


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: my woods

Subject: my outlook

Many years ago I was laying stone with a couple of young black men who were more like friends than helpers. We had known each other for years; we all became friendly after they came up from Mississippi. One of them, who called himself "Black Jack," used to always be in P&G's bar after work. When he laughed hard he looked like every bone in his body was loose.

Somehow the old question of three wishes came up and I always thought about my father's saying, "You can wish in one hand and spit in the other...and see which one gets full first."... Well...that's the way I heard it....so I never thought too highly of the whole idea. Cutting to the chase, I turned to Jack and said, "What if you only had ONE wish?" I could tell by his face that he was weighing his decision carefully and I was ready for an answer like, "I wish I had a billion dollars."

Finally he said, "I wish that everybody could be happy, so there would be no reason to fight anymore."

I had never heard a more sincere answer. It was then that I realized that I was many steps behind Black Jack in this journey called life. Every once in a while we meet people who, whether we recognize it or not, are guideposts to keep us going in the right direction. Just try to imagine what life would be like if we all lived in peace.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

eppard & wimbish just noodling around. a little more jimmy this time. still very low key.

BTW, there is no style eppard can't play.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: bass video with jimmy eppard, doug wimbish

Jimmy builds basses and guitars for Spector Bass. Has also built homes and studios. Built Applehead.From a garage they essentially knocked down. Planned it, ran the crew, did some amazing stuff construction-wise. One of the nicest studios you'll find anywhere. Amazing sound too. It is a first class operation terms of soudn , looks, and equipoment. Least it was back then. I haven't been in there in some years now. During a visit from St Louis in 99 i was there a few times while it was under construction.A friend of mine worked on Jimmy's crew there for a few years. In 2002 I recorded part of school For fools there ( 1 day) and mixed the whole record there (5 or 6) days. Jimmy played on the record, and I hired him to participate in the mixing.Took 4 of us, and Jimmy was a big factor in me getting the mix I wanted. All 4 of us were indispensable in it, but without Jimmy I never coulda or woulda dealt with Mike. Who happens to be a talented engineer. Jimmy was a investor and co owner in that studio. Got his money out, hopefully all of it, and sold out a few years back.

In the linked video, Jimmy is providing accompaniment ,with the main idea being to highlight the bass.

Anyway, Eppard is a all around guy. Exceptionally talented. One of the names he has accompanied is Ian anderson. Not as impressive as accompanying Rick Danko, Garth Hudson, and Levon Helm, but it is worth noting. BTW, Garth thinks a whole helluva lot of Jimmy and his talent. I wish I coudl recall the exact words, but suffice to say, Garth hold shim in high esteem. Some one once wanted to replace a Clapton solo he didn't care for with Jimmy playing a part there instead. Said no one would ever know :-)


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: Very interesting article on someone who tried to debunk snopes.com. It didn't happen.

I hope you all had a HAPPY EASTER. I was so busy with family I didn't have the time to send you all greetings.

Seeya soon xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

bob w.

You are right, Steve. It is all our fault. Every last bit of it. And I would be happy to tell you where to take it.

Good to see you working Wikipedia with such fervor. Akin to handing a monkey a loaded gun.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: you all know by now

Subject: The Tinder Boxmaster At Hugh's Room, You Say ?

Bill, both N.G. and N.B. would be very keen to join you at that venue to catch a Fred performance. And with music always uppermost on my mind, I have just goggled the Hugh's Room website and see that while they only stock Guinness in cans, they do have a "St. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout" on tap that I've heard great things about and am eager to sample. (Stevon may know of it). So I'll try to schedule the trip for that time and let you know. Thanks for the heads up re: BEG. Can't say as I recall classmate Wendy C. as of yet, but then again Donnie B. and Suzy B. didn't come to me right away either. NB

PS. Haven't forgotten part 2 of my S. Ontario music quiz. Like Mozart and his symphonies, it's all finished but up in my head somewhere. I just need to dash it off on the keyboard sometime.


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Posted by:

Steve

I think the answer was in there somewhere Bob, you just have to think a little, and I guess since your previous gov't had a gov't removed that was putting an end to pirating off their coast, I guess, yes, we can say you've had a hand in keeping the pirates in business taking ships from anyone who ventures into those waters.

OK, you probably won't figure it out on your own so here goes, Bush should have kept his goons out of Somalia when The Moslem Union was taking care of business. Get back to me if you still need help on it, though I'm not sure where to take it from there.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Know that it's for real

"Oh the foes will rise
With the sleep still in their eyes
And they'll jerk from their beds and think they're dreamin'
But they'll pinch themselves and squeal
And know that it's for real
The hour when the ship comes in"
--Bob Dylan

Thanks to the Navy SEALS is good riddance to the pirates of pissants.

I heartily second that recommendation for Joe Bonamassa's "The Ballad of John Henry". A powerful effort from a guitar master.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I don't think our guys sang about pirates, did they? "Rocking Chair" features retired sailors, but I can't think of anything closer. I don't know that any of them was ever even on a ship, aside from Garth, who travelled home from Dylan's '66 Eurotour on the QEII or some such thing. I take it that all went smoothly, as no songs emerged along the lines of "Six Months In A Leaky Boat" (Split Enz) or "With only fear and good judgment holding us back, we set out on the seven seas ..." (Trooper).


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Posted by:

Not Important

Subject: Smoking Joe Bonamassa

Great new contempory blues album released by Smoking Joe Bonamassa is titled Ballad of John Henry. This is Joe's best work to date with a great cover of Jockey Full of Bourbon, a Tom Waits song. The rest of the album is a mix of three more covers and some great orginal work by Joe as well. This album rocks and as Joe says, should be turned up loud. Joe is one of the good guy's and gives much of his time going to highschool's introducing the blues to a new generation, in a program he calls Blues to the Schools. Hope some of you will give it a listen.


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Posted by:

bob w.

In other words you have nothing to offer but your usual criticisms. Are we therefore responsible for the hijacking of other countries' ships?


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Grateful Dead

Intersting piece from NY Times


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Mister Fred Blassie in a breakfast mess...

Dylan usually manages to get off a few zingers in the dry humor vein on his Theme Time Radio Hour programs. What's the frequency Bobby? XM channel 40 :-)

Bill M: Yes and Diane Brooks' "Back Stairs of My Life" was produced by Brian Ahern, who worked with Anne Murray also, before collaborating in & out of the studio with Emmylou Harris. Band fans who are not familiar with Ms. Brooks' 1976 LP might be interested in her fine cover of "Small Town Talk", which features the great Amos Garrett, along with Mr. Ahern and the Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Dylan qua humourist

Sorta like Andy Kaufman's brilliant introductory shtick - stumbles onstage, painfully delivers painful 'jokes', narrowly avoids the hook, pirouettes once and emerges as ... ta da!! But will REM write a song about him?


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Joan

I think that is what is funny about them...the man who wrote "Visions of Johanna" telling the most terrible one liners you have ever heard. Picturing his delivery of these jokes is cracking me up....


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie / Dylan jokes

Groan... I never knew Dylan had such a terrible sense of humor. :-D


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Posted by:

Steve

Depends where you want to start from Bob. Back when Somalia had a gov't?

Maybe later when the marines landed, to bring a little order there?

Before your gov't pressured client state and bastion of democracy, Ethiopia, to send in its freedom fighters to oust the first stable gov't the country had in decades in 2006, The Islamic Courts Union, that was bringing a little order to its own country, including the port of Harardhere where the pirates operate from.

In just a couple of months The Islamic Union had restored a semblance of order on the streets of Mogadishu, the Somalis were happy just to be able to walk the streets in safety. Piracy in Harardhere was being reduced for the first time in years BUT, Islamic Courts, sort of has an anti American ring to it so George W called in the Ethiopians, provided the always helpful American military advisers and drone aircraft to help track the "enemy" as they fled the capital, and within weeks it was let the "Warlords Reign" again.

Not surprisingly the pirates were right back to work and the citizens were back to fearing for their lives anytime they're out in public where indiscriminate gun fire makes normal public life a little tricky to survive.

So now the Ethiopians want out, as the Al Shabaab fighters continue to try and drive them out.

So, Bob, I think it might be a little late for my advice at this point, but continued military successes everywhere on your planet.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Mike

After reading that last link, I answered my own question. Thank you. And great cover. Almost looks like Robert crumb's work.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Levon/Dylan jokes

Is it just me, or does it sound like they had a bit more money for production this time around? Of course, it does seem they went in a different direction than"dirt farmer." It seems a bit more polished maybe? More "ophelia" than "the weight." Not that it matters because the song sounds great and Levon sounds great, and hearing it for the first time is a delightful way to start the day! I can't wait to buy the album....

Has anyone ever posted this Dylan joke page before? I had a thought that maybe I had a couple of years ago.....


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levon Helm's "Electric Dirt" cover art.


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Posted by:

Bill M

The Band rated a passing mention in "Uncut" (the Neil Young edition) in their reveiw of the reissue of the Bee Gees' "Odessa" album. Noted that "Marly Purt Drive" (the one with the line "15 kids and a family on the skids") indicates that the Gibbs'd been listening to "the Band, Bob Dylan and the Byrds". The list is admirably alphabetical, but I'm not sure that either of the first two had dipped more than a toe into Lake Pastiche.

NB: If you're still thinking of coming east in Aug, keep in mind that his Fredship will be at Hugh's Room on the 26th. A road trip east to Bowmanville on Saturday netted two slices of vinyl and a cheap CD at the local St Vinnie's. One, by a presumably local country rock group, Shotgun, I picked up because it was produced by Anne Murray's longtime bandleader, Pat Riccio, who was at the time ('84) and for many years before was married to my old next-door neighbour (and your classmate), Wendy C. (David P: Riccio's on that Dianne Brooks LP on WB too.)

Re BEG, I haven't heard from her either, but it's not the first time that she'd had her head down at this time of the year. I wouldn't be surprised (or concerned) if we don't hear from her until the school year's over - though you never know.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: '74 Allen Toussaint interview from "Rock's Back Pages."

Printed about 1 1/2-mths prior to "The Last Waltz."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Electric Dirt

Delighted to see "Kingfish" is on Electric Dirt. The Band did it a few times live over the years. Tennessee Jed should fit too.

From the same production stable … Jorma Kaukonen does a fine version of the Grateful Dead's "Operator" on River of Time.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Electric Dirt


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Posted by:

Friend0

Great performance. That has to be Catherine Russel in with Amy and Theresa. And in some highlighted back up spots.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: I sing the solid-body electric Fender...

Apologies to Walt Whitman. Great news regarding Levon's upcoming release. Some may recall the 1968 Muddy Waters album entitled "Electric Mud". It was Marshall Chess' attempt to update Muddy's sound for the psychedelic era. Although it was hated by most in critical circles, it was a big seller.

Just received a copy of the Audio Fidelity gold CD version of "The Band", mastered by Steve Hoffman from the original master mix. This version reveals all the layers & vocals of this magnificent album more realistically than any previous version, with a dynamic soundstage that transports you into Sammy Davis' pool house and the studio. It is a revelation of detail & nuance that draws you into the music like never before.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, I'm certain the captive captain and his family return your salute. You are very quick to mock the effort but your offerings of alternative solutions are a little sparse.

In your infinite wisdom concerning all things American you have failed to explain how you would handle such matters.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Did The Ocean Move For You?

Bob, the outcome was never in doubt, 5 or 6, 500 brazillion dollar war ships are usually the safe bet vs a row boat, 19 times out of 20. Except for fate of the captain nothing else was in doubt. Well done in that regard.

Good thing there weren't 9 pirates in 3 row boats I don't think even your navy has enough ships for that situation.

Now if only we could get those destroyers and missile frigates into the mountains of Afghanistan where they're really needed.

I'm standing to salute in your general direction at the moment.

This battle will certainly go down right next to Nelson at Trafalgar on the list of history changing sea battles. Hey, how about a made for TV movie, possibly starring Willie Boob in a little sailor suit singing and dancing. That'll boost national morale in these hard times. AYE MATEY! ARRRGH!!!!!!!


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: The Band trivia contest on "facebook" today.

Robbie's son Sebastian is holding "The Last Waltz (TLW)" trivia contest today w/ the winner to receive "TLW" box set.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Peter, it's not that fascinating. But it is significant of some things.

Perception of things is one. Levon being in a band, and even band members/friends sometimes or usually deferring to him, out of respect &/or cause that was/is the smart / safest thing to do don't make it his band. Or make his friend the manager or road manager. Just ask The Last Hombres. Separately, I'm not sure that some one being downstairs with the band, or in a dressing room before a show, indicates he is a manager.

Far as Cromatix performances, i saw them at Joes in New Paltz. Jimmy E was playing his black gibson. They had already played there a few times before i made it to one of the shows. I;d say this was most likely while i was still living in the area. Late 80s or early 90s. It could have been afterwards, when i was just up there a lot but not that likely. It wasn't while i was living in Gardiner or in New Paltz. 96, 97. There was a Joes show in JUne 97. I was staying right across the street right then. I know I did not go to that show.

Randy may or may not have been in the show I attended. I never had a vivid memeory of him in that show.I remember Mike, Jimmy, Marie, Aaron, Levon. I do rememebr them playing DOn't Ya Tell Henry, but maybe they did not have a drummer on it.

It finally came to me. The Eldorado Kings was the name of the band that became The Barn Burners / Barnburners( Noone ever knew the correct spelling). Then, when the time came, they lost the drummer, for Levon. Not a bad career move then.Then they lost Ingrao, for Merrit, Sarli, and Garnier. Not a bad career move either.... Where are they now? Regardless, they did play in a band with Levon for a while.

Many times over the years I've posted about a show I saw in Bearsville Theater, early 90s. The Crows, Cromatix members, The Band or most of The Band memebers. The Band, or Band members, were the last to join the stage. Howie Brown was part of the affair for part of the show, Aaron. Randy, Eappard, Mike Dunn. It was a great show, I rememebr being knocked out. I can't recall the exact billing. It mioght be the first time I saw Aaron play with Crows members. I can't recall if they had started using the name Crowmatix by then, at that show, or after. I do recall soemhtign vbeing different that night. There were a lot of people on that stage that night, and it worked seamlessly. I rememebr Jimmy Eppard singing particualrly well that night.

A friend emailed me to say that Vivino gets credited with naming The Barnburners / Barn Burners.

All that said, it's possible, but not likely, i am wronmg on The Cromatix performance dates.

One last obvious point to make. Something being written on the internet don't make it so. Absence of info about somrthing on the internet does not mean it did not happen.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "The Last Waltz" to be shown @ Toronto's "Fox Theater" April 21st @ 7 PM.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levon Helm interview from "When You Awake" blog.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, are you a little clearer now on how the US Navy handles their business? I'm pretty sure the Somali pirates have a better understanding at this point.


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Posted by:

Steve

I saw what must have been one of the last Barn Burners show in early Nov 03 in Schenectady NY, then was amazed to read shortly after that Levon was singing again so we went to the Jan 04 Ramble.

Peter, I know you'd be interested in my follow up on the Cossacks in WW2. Not only were the Cossacks who were with the Commies still riding horses and ponies, but they also had dozens of camels they were using to haul wagons and some small field guns right into Berlin at the end of the war in Europe.

Germans in Berlin said it added to the surrealistic atmosphere of the moment to see Cossacks and camels in the city.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: Sorry for my bitterness / Crossing Wolf Swamps in Arctic woods

... and how would you report from crossing Tamanrasset Pass, Empty Now :-)))

Where is Brown Eyed Girl?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: What's New …

It's a mistake to set my browser to open on the Guestbook, because I sometimes miss Jan's "What's New" for a few days. Race straight over and check out the sample track from Levon's forthcoming album!


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Who is this Dylan guy anyway????

Just came home from a miserable vacation in the Arctic woods and WHAT DO I SEE in welcoming page!!!?? This Dylan guy who didn't care if Levon was lining him or not and hired Mickey Jones instead... or wrote songs with Rick Danko and Richard Manuel instead of Robbie Robertson. Shame on you webmaster!


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Posted by:

Peter V

It's a fascinating conversation, Jeff and Lars. One worth noting down for the archives because in ten years time, all this information will be mixed up, lost and mis-remembered. I remember being alerted to the existence of Souvenir by Lee Gabites and getting one right away from the States. Mine has 1997 printed on it, and is the white liner where there's a jewel case liner, but no front leaflet, so the beige CD with red writing is visible. Then I recall seeing it with a front cover.

But spare a thought for the other Barn Burners (two words) who had had a couple of albums out and found their name wasn't usable anymore because the Woodstock ones had a higher profile. I know about them because I bought one of their albums by mistake. They were a great little band.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Very simple Lars. Call Eppard or Aaron.

Amazon has 2 release dates for the Souvneirs cd. One is 1993, one is 1997.

It was not intended as a ambitious project, but supposed to be a "Souvenir" for the people who had ALREADY been going to the Crowmatix live dates.

You referred to the Crowmatix as both Levon's band and Butch's band. I;d say it was just a band. No real manager. They had been doing it for a long time already. Once aaron was in he might have taken more responsibility than others. n Randy once did an interview, very confusing to read. But he stated they did shows at least as far back in 93, intimated even earlier. Then he also states the first show was in 97.

If it is that important to you,ask Aaron or Jimmy. But the Crows beena around a long time. It all started there.

Firts Ramble, late Jan 04. 4 and a half years, not so shortly, after jul 3, 4th 1999.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Fed up in more ways than one.

Subject: Levon's bands

FRIENDO- I'll stand by everything that I wrote in response to your question. I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong. I welcome you to provide any links to dispute my account of Levon's bands. Instead of being perturbed, I will thank you for the corrections.

After Tinker Street in late winter of 1998, Levon and the Crowmatix played at a number of venues. I forget all of the places I followed them to, but I tried not to miss a show. In July they played Bodles Opera House and Levon could barely speak. He had cancelled his show at the Town Crier the week before. I was in Bodle's that night when Levon's raspy voice moved from mic to mic on the stage, saying, "You know The Last Waltz was a crock of shit."

"My voice has gone to hell in a handbasket" and he went on to say that he was going to give us the best he had. That's when Amy stepped forward to the mic and with Randy, Mike, Jimmy and the rest of the Original Crowmatix backing her up, Amy sang the first song of the night. Randy and Jimmy took some turns. If you look in Jan's archives under Sat July 11th, 1998 you'll find my post describing the show.

The "barnburners" was not the name Chris O'Leary and Pat O'Shea used when they played as a blues band in Poughkeepsie when Levon discovered them. I forget their name, but I remember they were the kind of band that could not command a cover charge of more than $5. When Levon introduced them at the Bearsville Theatre they were billed as "The Levon Helm Blues Band." That was July 3 & 4, 1999. They even announced that they were going to have a contest to pick a name for Levon's new band. Some time later, after an especially good rehearsal they joked about burning Levon's barn down. They became known as the Barnburners. The next show that I went to was at the Bardavon in Poughkeepsie. Since I don't like the blues as much as I like Band and Crowmatix music, that was my last Barnburner's show. I'm not sure, but Levon's Rambles must have started not long after that.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Peter, far as I'm concerned, with or without fire, it's strictly their business.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Lars, I forgot to type this before, but from what I know, Mike Dunn quit.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff, I guess if you write things about someone's deceased partner which they dislike, then they might decline to piss on if you were on fire. Often while the subject of these things can shrug it off, his nearest and dearest can't.


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Posted by:

gbr

Subject: Cover of Dylan better than Dylan original

My Back Pages by the Byrds.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Angelina

Yes I took the lyric to be literal...the question mark was more of a "why would anyone write a lyric that bad?" It is funny to think of Angelina Jolie walking into a wall. She always seems to have such a stoic and focused sort of composure...Does Billy Bob mean to say she was so struck by his good looks that she walked into a wall? Got to give the guy credit if that is the case. He does seem a funny sort of character. And you know what? The band backing him sounds great. Is this the band that played at the ramble with him?


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Dylan covers

I have a question for everyone-do any of you like a cover of a Dylan or Band song more than the original? Or a song The Band or Dylan covered more than the original? I really like Jim James/Calexico's cover of"Going to Acapulco," almost more than the original. And I am starting to feel that I enjoy The Band's cover of"Atlantic City" more so than Bruce's version on "Nebraska"(which, funnily enough, is my favorite song on that album). But Levon is my favorite singer, so I may be biased on that one.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Angelina

Where's she gone? Miss this intelligent, beautiful woman.


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Posted by:

Friendo

Possibly, by walking into a wall, he meant that when she met him she walked into a wall.

Yes, the lyrics suck.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Angelina

The song isn't as bad as I remember.the worst thing about it is Billy Bob's vocals....and the lyrics-"I walked into the elevator, you walked into a wall?"


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Posted by:

kristie

Web: My link

Subject: "Angelina"

Perhaps if you don't want to be referred to as an actor while moonlighting as a "musician"-avoid singing songs about your movie star wife(granted, this is a few years old).


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Posted by:

Friend0

Peter! Are you implying there is probably a long list of people who wouldn't p........:-) And, yes, Grossman was mostly the right man at the right time. But even back then they were probably mostly unmanageable. I mean, just look at that Brown Album Cover. One of the best album covers ever. But that cover says it all.


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Posted by:

Steve

If Wee Willie, Boob Guy, doesn't want his paying career mentioned, wants to be recognized as a real "musician", why isn't the band's name simply, The Boxmasters?


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Posted by:

Peter V

I believe you. On the other hand, they did a lot better under Grossman's management than they did outside it. (Not to say that Grossman didn't screw up horrendously over the Woodstock film and album).


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Posted by:

Friend0

I believe Albert managed The Band Peter.Far as that goes, I remember Levon, during a conversation that in a way touched on session work, telling me Sally wouldnt piss on him if he were on fire.


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Posted by:

Friend0

One last historical difference Lars. Lars: " He was at a point where it appeared that The Band was finished when Rick got detained in Japan, but the "Barnburners" weren't in existence yet." Seems The BarnBurners were in existence at the time you refer to . The Barnburners were already a band, across the river. Way I been told, they hired Levon to guest on drums on a few of the songs they were recording. When levon needed a band, they lost their drummer fast. Then Levon had cancer, but when Levon was mostly recovered, they quickly got smarter, lost their bass player too. Hell, when you got TonY Garnier and Jeff Sarli showing up, you loose your bass player. I been told his upright was in poor condition.Engineer told me you couldn't; get a good recording sound out of it, or a good sound in general.



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Posted by:

Peter V

Albert Grossman, Jeff.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Enjoy Easter with your family Lars, and Happy Easter to all celebrating. Lars, I have to take issue with your historical reporting. By what you write, the Cromatix came into existence after Rick was arrested in Japan.:

"Butch Dener appeared to be the manager when Levon was in the group. I think it's obvious that Levon was in charge. He was at a point where it appeared that The Band was finished when Rick got detained in Japan, but the "Barnburners" weren't in existence yet. Supposedly Levon said that The Band was finished when they lost out on the Pirate's Ball Tour in the summer of 1997: "You can stick a fork in it."

So that year Levon had his first show with his "nice little band" at The Iron Horse in Northampton, MA. They played through the fall together and the show I was talking about in my last post was played at The Studio in Pittsfield, on Jan 17, 1998. They played at the Tinker Street Cafe in late winter '98 and that's when Butch told me The Band was not going to play Carnegie Hall in March."

There is what you wrote. Again" So that year Levon had his first show with his "nice little band" at The Iron Horse in Northampton, MA. They played through the fall together and the show I was talking about in my last post was played at The Studio in Pittsfield, on Jan 17, 1998."

I lived in Ulster County at least half the time from 87 ,88 till 91,92. Afterwards I was up there frequently .Then I lived there again half of 96, and 2/3 of 97. I oculdn't say what years it was exactly but it was PROBABLY very late 80s or very early 90s that The Cromatix, including Levon, played at Joe's in New Paltz fairly often. The show you speak of as being their first performance was far from it. They had been around a long time.

I'm surpirsed you were surprised that Aaron lined up and negotiated performance dates. Aaron has all the personality traits of someone who could succeed in forming business relationships and doing business. Which is what he did. For The Band as well. Aside from producing their records, far as I bben told, Aaron took care of alot of The Band's business all those last years. Ran the tours from the tour bus.Separately, your defintion of manager is loose. I don't know that Butch made career decisions for or gave advice to The Crowmatix. Far as managing Levon, noone has ever managed Levon. Doesn't happen. He did have a traveling partner /friend/ associate.

Jimmy left The Cromatix. Pushed out? He and Aaron were and remain friends. Mike De Micco took Jimmy's place. Then he left too.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Billy Bob

I can understand, maybe, why Billy Bob would have gotten upset, as in the pre interview it was stated he did not wish to be referred to as an actor. However, it is the way he handled the situation that really showed his true colors. A more professional person would have shrugged it off and steered the conversation somewhere else. In his defense though, it must get difficult being asked about Angelina all the time. By the way, has anyone heard his song Angelina? Not good ya'll. Not good.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: So You Wanna Be A Rock & Roll Star / Viva Bobby Joe

(Just take some time and learn how to play).

Thanks, Joan … I reckon the polar bear attack was more exciting but I can see why it caused a fuss. Bobby Bill reckons he should be compared to Tom Petty as a musician of substance then. Dream on.

The point is, the DJ being on camera, was insulting to read his intro to Billy Sue off a sheet, and clearly boundaries had been drawn before the show. Where Bobby Joe was an arsehole was sitting there. One of the Bee Gees, similarly annoyed on British TV, simply got up and left. That's the way to do it right at the start, rather than sit and look worse and worse as Billy Joe did.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Ground level

Subject: The Original Crowmatix

Happy Easter to one and all.

FRIENDO- Your question takes me into the shady areas of a band's financial and management responsibilities. I don't know the answers, but I can guess from being around the players.

Butch Dener appeared to be the manager when Levon was in the group. I think it's obvious that Levon was in charge. He was at a point where it appeared that The Band was finished when Rick got detained in Japan, but the "Barnburners" weren't in existence yet. Supposedly Levon said that The Band was finished when they lost out on the Pirate's Ball Tour in the summer of 1997: "You can stick a fork in it."

So that year Levon had his first show with his "nice little band" at The Iron Horse in Northampton, MA. They played through the fall together and the show I was talking about in my last post was played at The Studio in Pittsfield, on Jan 17, 1998. They played at the Tinker Street Cafe in late winter '98 and that's when Butch told me The Band was not going to play Carnegie Hall in March.

I remember being surprised that Aaron Hurwitz lined up and negotiated deals for The Crowmatix ( a band member told me that "Louie" could always get the last dollar from the venue owner). So I guess Aaron replaced Steve Martin of The Agency Group as Levon's booking agent. Butch still was manager and would be downstairs with the boys before a gig, where Levon would make up the setlist. Most of the songs done at that time (I was usually there, a member of the audience) seemed to be songs from the Crowmatix CD, plus some blues ("Get Ready" was one). Very few Band songs, although they always did "The Weight" from what I can remember. Randy started the Honky Tonk Gurus with Jim Weider while he played with the Crowmatix. Eventually Levon started the Barnburners. "Prof. Louie" (Aaron) took over the CRMTX and kept Eppard on, but hired another lead guitar player. Marie, being Louie's wife, had job security. I'm not sure if Mike Dunn quit or was just pushed out like Eppard.

I can hear grandchildren's voices and laughter, so my family has started to gather for our Easter dinner. Gotta go.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Happy Easter/ Peter V Billy Bob

Happy Easter to all.

Peter, here is the link to the interview. Second time I heard it, and he still sounds obnoxious.


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Posted by:

Nathan

Hey I made a video of Levon's new song for youtube please check it out at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58i9Q222_I


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy Easter!


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Little Sammy Davis article updating his recovery.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Counting Crows

Lars, Levon did play with the Crowmatix.True. The Crows were around a long time. Then when Aaron entered they became the Crowmatix. I met both Aaron & Jimmy in 85 or 86. Now this is no shot at Butch but you referred to The Crowmatix as Butch's band. I know today The Crowmatix are Aaron's band. I know The Crows were Jimmy, Mike, and Randy's band. I know that Levon was in The Crowmatix,with Randy, Marie, Jimmy and Aaron. And I know Butch was Levon's friend and traveling partner. If Butch was manager, road manager or roadie for The crowmatix, you, Aaron or Jimmy can correct me. Maybe he was. But far as I know, Aaron was always the businessman.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Isn't "Something-Bob" a somewhat silly name?

Peter V: Sponge-Bob does have a certain air of respectability & dignity about it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I had missed the link to the Billy Bob interview and went back to look. Try it today, I didn't realize it was so vicious, nor why it was taking place in a pool of water with someone wearing a polar bear suit. Then I realized that, being a CNN link, the video clip had been changed and I was watching someone being eaten by a polar bear at Berlin Zoo. Anyway, I got confused between Billy Bob and Joe Bob Briggs who did those Joe Bob Goes To The Drive In reviews. Maybe he still does. Isn't "Something-Bob" a somewhat silly name?


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods of NY

Subject: Max Creek

Joe from MA.-

You saw Max Creek in 1986? I wonder if that's the same Max Creek I saw in (about) 1997. They opened for the original Crowmatix up in Pittsfield, MA and they had a tremendous following. The place had a simple name, like "The Stage," and I was standing there watching them with Mike Dunn. We thought the kids in the crowd were fanatics. Mike thought they were on acid because some of them were throwing up in the corners and (better yet) the bathrooms.

When Randy, Mike, Jimmy Eppard, Marie, and Prof Louie went on stage, things calmed down. After warming up, Levon and Butch came up to the stage, which was about two foot off the main floor. Butch tried to push Levon up onto the stage and I quickly ran over and both of us pushed on that skinny ass and got him up there. That was the night Randy lost his grip on one of his drumsticks and he kept playing with one stick. That was the only time I ever saw Butch look mad at his band and I could see his was scolding Randy. Butch was smiling a few minutes later, but he looked kind of pissed off there for a while. At any rate, Levon's band played great, although they weren't getting the applause that Max Creek had received. I had a B&B lined up and a bottle of merlot in a nice place where a fire was going in the bedroom fireplace. I spent the night getting kind of mellow, had a good sleep, and drove home the next day.


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Posted by:

joe

Location: mass

Subject: providence perfoming arts theatre 86?

At the time I had no idea what my sister was taking me to.I had asked her to take me to see Rush at Providence Civic Center and she did and I loved it...but I think she relized then I loved music and desided to let me in on waht she liked I was 15 or 16 .We went to Providence to see Hot Tuna, Max Creek, and The Band.I cant tell you how differrent the vibe felt there it was an eye opening experience that I will cheerish forever the amout of fun I had and dancin like never before had just made things seem so different then what was mainstream on the radio, I was takin in by all the bands stripped down no fluff show , just great music.I feel very luck to have seen The band even without Robbie they were great live band.I only wish I could remember more anyone know what year the show was and a set list?I know they played alot of their staples because I remember saying I know this song a number of times but wish I had more info. If anyone can help I would be grateful.Thank you


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Ari

Thanks for the clip Ari, I really enjoyed that.


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Posted by:

Friend0

See, that's where the interviewer blew it. He could have asked him nothin but questions to do with being involved with & married to Angelina Jolie. And how the name of the band fitted into all this man/womanly stuff. Not pc now,but i'm guessing Boxmaster has to do with women tattoing your name on their arm, or doing similar such things. That's meat, potatoes, and gravy right there.

Gawd Damn, maybe somebody up there in Woodstock should tell Billy Bob to have me be his official media interrogator.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie and Willie Dixon

good stuff


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Posted by:

Friend0

Good Gawd Damn Steve! The man was married to Angelina Jolie. When it counted (she even had his name tattooed onto herself). And whatever the fuck else he's done, he still done did that.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Jian Ghomeshi blog post by someone who feels that Billy Bob was a jerk, but thought Jian wussed out by allowing the behavior during the interview.


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Good one, Steve... funny...


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Posted by:

Zzzz

I agree what you said for the most part, Todd... except the DJ broke his agreement with the intro... It comes off as devious to me too... because he tried to act so cool and "nice"... as his pissed in his face on live radio... I don't recall but did Billy rant and rave and cuss... I don't think so... Obviously keeping the agreement wasn't important, a little thing to the DJ or radio company... but to Billy it must have been important... especially since he brought it up in advance... prior to being "setup"... I think this is very interesting because everybody seemed so quick to jump on the bandwagon to say how out of order he was... Maybe Billy should have used the rest of the interview to rant?... It looked like he did a system shut down to me... My opinion is somewhat colored by seeing the video on PerezHilton.com hehehe.... Anyway, I think this goes beyond just a reporters right to tell truths, etc,... i.e. all that other bullshit... It's a statement that we, the fans, are tired of a certain something... that marketers give us... like crappy cars, politicians who always lie, whatever... This also reminds me that I last saw Billy Bob in Lanois's latest DVD... the one where Garth shines... and he and Eno talk about dedication like Garth's... and also... about how people want a certain kind of complexity... depth... emotional connection in their lives... and it's not really provided by an introduction like that DJ gave... Maybe Willie should have done the interview instead... That way Billy Bob would have at least got to meet him, eh wink wink... Maybe Kevin Kostner's band should go on that program next... followed by Woodie Harrelson's band... and Bruce Willis's band... I think is interestng too that Billy Bob cancelled the rest of the CA gigs, his participation in it... after being booed... Btw, I'm not saying rush out and attack the DJ either... Maybe Willie should go on next... I bet nothing can harsh his mellow hehehe... not even the taxman...


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: The guy on deck

Since you guys just got to see that interview you missed the next guest, Albert Shultz, who's a Canadian actor, TV and stage. He was on the other side of the glass sitting with the engineer during The Bully Bob show.

After a 2 minute musical interlude he was introduced by Jian and started out by giving Jian shit for mentioning his acting career. Then started laughing and said something like, shit I guess acting is all I do, better leave the acting stuff in after all, as a matter of fact I insist we talk about nothing else.


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Posted by:

Mike

We have seen the Billy Bob interview & it's unfortunate. We met Billy Bob & The Boxmasters @ Levon's & they were all very cool & easy to converse with. Without a doubt, Billy Bob should have handled the interview better, especially where thousands of listeners / viewers may only recognize him from that interview. We still like the guy from our personal experiences. Must have been a bad day @ the office.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

One of the first questions that the DJ asked Billy Bob was how long the Boxmasters had been playing together. ie: when did the band form. Billy Bob's response was a blank stare followed by "I don't understand what you're talking about." It seems as though Billy Bob had plently of opportunity to discuss music if he actually wanted to. The rest of his band answered the music questions openly and honestly. It's not as though he DJ started asking Billy Bob if there was going to be a follow-up to the Sling-Blade movie. I'm not offended by what Billy Bob did....but now I understand why he's been married five times. Life sometimes goes easier with a little give and take.... and compromise.


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Posted by:

Zzzz

I guess I don't understand the Billy Bob backlash... He told and presumeably got accepted of a desire to have "zero" mention of his acting career... and then what does the DJ do?... What a twit, ego, dink... whatever... I think Billy is just passionate about what he's doing and doesn't want to be involved with a "mindless" interview... I don't care how nice and polite the DJ was... In fact, I believe under these circumstances the DJ should have behaved like a basketball ref... and tried to stay out of the friggin' game... for us... Should we all get bent out of shape?... Nah... I'm just saying... Why unnecesarily harsh his mellow, corporate dude, eh...


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Posted by:

andy kelly

Location: uk

Subject: drumming

Just wanna say this...."Levon has inspired me both as a drummer and as a human persona, humble. I only wish I had a tenth of his musical talent. Thanks for all the years of pleasure along with all your musical army of friends. Rick Danko, Garth, Robbie and all the many more. You know...the world of "music" is a "richer" place since the day you walked out onto it's stage. May you continue to love what it is that you do so well. Thanks......andy


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Posted by:

Steve

Same question as Mike, Brien. Have you heard the interview?

At no point does Mr. Ghomeshi, start talking about movies or even intend to, as he pointed out. His BIG SIN was to mention that Billy Bob has had a career as an actor, screen writer and director and as he said, people in North America listening to the interview might think it kind of strange that he not mention this while introducing Billy Bob. There was only one guy tied up in a knot and here's a hint,it wasn't Mr Ghomeshi.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hey Todd, You are on to something. Most, not all, radio interviews today are nothing more than press releases. I'm in the car alot, and listen to three station, FUV, BGO and FDU. On BGO and FDU you have a chance of a good interview. I'm pretty sure BGO does have some limited connection to NPR, maybe it;s the news, but it is pretty much a free lance station. And i;ve been very entertained by interviews on there, Cedar Walton and his band was a great recent visist. FDu interviews can be cool or press releases. FUV, the station that claims to be the most independent, well, their interviews are most often the the most press release like. The station does play an enormous amount of band though. By now, almost everythign they play sounds liek porr digital music. I;m nt sure if it is that they are often using mp3s, or if it is just that they broadcast digitally, But it just hurts me to listen to great songs , or even bad songs, on FUV. They are a good source of a lot of local info, so that is why i listen. Plus, FDu and BGO are nto always playing music i want to hear.

Separately, one FUV dj, and several other FUV people who are on air , speak as if they all took Toastmasters courses and graduated with honors. I find it particularly annoying. The Dj uses the education in a way as if each word out of his or her mouth has to be the most interesting, important, exciting, novel, mysterious, or some other adjective, word you have heard or will hear all day.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: vinyl mania

Even regular newspapers are getting excited about the auction for “Do I Love You (Indeed I Do)” by Frank Wilson online. It started April 2nd at Manships Soul Auctions lasts till April 30th and is expected to sell for at least £25,000. It’s one of only two available copies of the single which was shelved by Motown in 1965, and pressings destroyed. The odd thing is that it’s available on half a dozen CDs including the Motown 1965 box set. I just saw that promo 45 copies of the 1990s issue by Motown are at £150. I’ve been playing the CD version all afternoon, and it is classic Motown at its best, but the artifact (which has writing on it) is worth so much money. It beats me!

The point is that soul is far outstripping any other genre in value.

“Record Collector” also has news of a Hendrix tape being auctioned. It contains Jimi performing “Tears of Rage” solo at home. I’d love to hear that one.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Let's remember about the Last Waltz is that it was a film and could be edited to fit the needs. We don't know how the questioning really went and if it flowed seamlessly from one thing to another it was because of editing.

Radio interviews or tv live interviews are a whole different kettle of fish. Billy Bob probably just wanted the interview to be about the music and the band. deviation off into acting would take away from the focus of the music he's trying to create with this band. So a directive of not talking about his acting career is not something unusual or something the interviewer should get all up in a knot about. Hell, it's a music/entertainment interview, not hard news. Is the interviewer that weak that he cannot engage Billy Bob in questions just focused on music?

last year I heard an interview with Billy Bob on Westwood, it was about a half hour long (guessing) and it was all music oriented and songs. He played his original stuff and stuff he really liked by other artists. No need for movie material.


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Posted by:

Todd

Subject: William Robert

Good point Fred. There are ways to defuse any situation if the desire is there.

Thinking about this a little more (a little more that I should) I suppose that the interviewer should have avoided any mention of acting if that was the "directive". But at some point the question needs to be raised whether it's still an interview if the subject of the interview gets to dictate the flow and content of the questions. At that point it's not really an interview. It becomes just another press release.....or acting gig with the actor reciting lines. Maybe in future interviews Billy Bob can interview himself.

So Billy's coming to Connecticut in four days. Looks like he's playing at a theater fairly close to me. I won't be at the show, as I wasn't even aware of the show. Maybe he needs to do more radio interviews or sumpin'. Hope the CT audience can deliver the appropriate amount of gravy.


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Posted by:

Calvin

Can anyone give some feedback on "Scott Walker: 30 Century Man". I hear its a pretty great documentary about a rather interesting figure in music. And something in the back of my mind tells me there were some Walker Brother fans in here.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Billy Bob Dylan

Great, Willie Nelson, show last night in Montreal's Place Arts according to this morning's review. The show was made all that much better when, Billy Bob Dylan, left the tour for the rest of the Canadian dates. His place was taken by Ray Price.

Unlike the, real deal Dylan, Billy Bob just didn't have the stomach for mashed potatoes, at least not when confronted by them.

Billy Bob Dylan will rejoin the tour on friendlier ground in Conn. when the Canadian dates are finished.

We'll have to wait and see if Willie can carry this tour on his own without that Dylanesque opening act of Billy Boob what's his name.


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Posted by:

Fred

Todd: perhaps B-Bob could have taken as an example Levon in TLW where he responds "I thought we weren't going to talk about that" (or words to that effect) when the subject of women on the road came up in one of the interview segements. The talk seemed to move seamlessly onto the next question. No fuss no muss.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Billy Bob

I just had a chance to watch the infamous CBC interview with "musician" Billy Bob Thornton & The Boxmasters. One of the lessons that he could from Levon is that it's possible to be a musician AND an actor and carry yourself with dignity. But the only thing that I gleaned from that interview is that Billy Bob is an actor, and a very good one. He squandered any chance that he had of being taken seriously as a musician. Perhaps he can do a tour with Joaquin Phoenix who seems to have a similar distaste for interviews (AKA free publicity).

If the interviewer really wanted to be a tool while keeping the interview to Billy Bob's strict parameters of "music only" questions, and had done a little more research, he could have asked him about his experience performing as a guest at one of Levon's Ramble. He could have even asked how Billy Bob felt when he screwed up the Crazy Chester verse of 'The Weight'. I bet Tom Petty would have gotten it right.

Credit to the rest of the Boxmasters who gave genuine answers to the legitimate questions that they were asked. They seem like good guys and real musicians, and I hope for their sake that Billy Bob doesn't derail their chances for success just to satisfy his ego.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: RRHOF

LINK: Good places to visit again Our ROBBIE's pic is included in the 2005 show link.

NORM: Thanx for the info on your new CD. Looking forward to hearing it. You'll get through your moving OK. Life without Susan would be very lonely. I know you just like complaining so we'll feel sorry for you. Nah!! that's not like you. You love it and we all know it. Have "fun" and try not to work too hard. {Har-dee-har-har].

LARS: Hope your shoulder isn't too hard to live with. Think positive, and have faith in it's recovery. Good luck.

BEG: Where are you?? I'm not here too often, but do miss your links, as do others too? Right guys?

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Paul Hammond

Location: I'm from Jupiter via Venus but recently got stuck up round Uranus
Web: My link

Subject: DVD-Audio of Big Pink (2003)

I'm looking to buy the DVD-Audio of 'Music From The Big Pink' (issued 2003). Can any one help me find a copy? realafrica2005(AT)yahoo.co.uk


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Taking Woodstock" trailer on "Best of Classic Rock."

Hits theaters Aug 14th.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Watch the guy in the suit. I'm not a fan of screaming guitars , but there are guitarists who like to make em scream that also know how to play great guitar within a song. Be nice this kid turns out that way.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Bad Billy Bob

Billy Bob was just reprising his roles from "Bad Santa" and "Bad News Bears". Back in the day, Dylan was known for giving reporters a hard time, as captured in D.A. Pennebaker's documentary footage.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Madison Square Garden NYC 1992

Great clip: BOB DYLAN ERIC CLAPTON GEORGE HARRISON TOM PETTY NEIL YOUNG "MY BACK PAGES".


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Posted by:

Zzzz

I kinda agree with Billy Bob Thornton... That guy was a tool... Billy's mistake was, he should have just got up and left... let the other guys in the band talk... or maybe they should have left too...


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I look like me !

GAWD DAMN IT! LARS!!!!! This is all your doing. Then you had to get that Northern Kid started up.

I'm leavin' for Powell River right now. I got no computer there. I'm going to have a peaceful week end .....working my ass off packing shit all over the house.

Take warning you guys, let this be a lesson. DON'T take a woman with you, and don't move, stay where you are. The suffering I go thru.................


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Posted by:

Mike

The other co-creater of D & D was Gary Gygax who passed away March of '08. The game was created in '74.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: D & D co-creator dies @ 61.

Although not music-related, the co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons passed away @ 61. I wasn't big into the game, I did have a brief stint w/ it in early jr high & it was pretty unique.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norm

In that photo you kind of look like a young Andy Griffith.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Norm, you handsome devil.


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Will The Real Norm Jones Stand Up

http://pnwbands.com/normjonesband.html

What? He doesn't look like this now?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Denial

Now there you go see........ a guy like Jeff, just can't admit when he's wrong. You'd think he'd get used to it 'cause he's wrong most the time...but....nope..tsk, tsk.....oh well.

So Joe, there is actually water under all that ice huh? Well I counted yes-a-day. There is 26 daffodills bloomin' on the front of my house. That old rhododendron, is all covered in big pink blossoms. That's here in Port Alice, down in Powell River, the strawberries are already started.

Steve McQueen, that's interesting Lars. That's a likeness I used to be stuck with a lot in my thirties.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Happy Spring

I pull back the drapes and discover that the ice has magicly disappeared from the harbour overnnight. Except for the remnants of the ballycatter in the landwash, nothing but blue sea. The loose polar ice is yet to come; it's only a few miles offshore but what heretofore was only a vague promise is now a distinct possibliity. Life is so good.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

The video of Billy Bob's CBC interview.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Steve McQueen? Nah! Just back from a friend's show up in the Sugar Hill section of Harlem. In St Nick's pub. Famous dive, where many greats played over the years. Harlem sure has changed, This club had rastas, street people, black rasta lesbo's, one bona fide fruitcake, and white kids, more girl than guys,.Soem of the white girls were real young. The white kids were the minoriy, but the next minority was the regular blackamerican. Which ain' right., Harlem's history shouldbe preserved, but they got fucking Starbucks all over the place there now.

Wetso.....Cyrils' aunt,that's who you want to talk to. Let me knowwhen you go correct her, it woud be fun to see a 80 or 90 year old woman kick your ass.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Higher than I should be

Subject: Norman Milhaus Jones, esq.

Northern Buoy & Friendo-

Just so we can lay the subject to rest (get up Norm, I don't mean you) I will finally admit that Westie bears no resemblance to Perry Como, whatsoever. Perry's been dead quite a while now and I was just kidding Norm. He's a good sport, especially if he can't get close enough to take a swing at you.

I don't know...I guess if you took Steve McQueen (when he was alive) and added thirty years on a weathered face, and gave him a full head of curly steel gray hair; maybe a little shy of 6 foot tall, wiry and tough, with big rugged hands that have been working since he was a kid at the "Miracle of Dunkirk" (ask Norm about that, he was there); then you could picture Norm Jones. I have to add that if your life was in the balance and somebody had to take a small boat through a big storm, you would want Norm at the helm.

And now to paraphraee Steve, that's all I have to say about that. Although, along those lines, I'm thinking that if I had to describe The Band and give each member an animal that was similar to the person:

Levon - a lion who was king of the beasts.

Rick- a bear cub

Garth-a Saint Bernard

Richard- a coyote with gray fur

Robbie- a pussy cat

NOTE: I didn't intentionally try to be unkind with any of the above comparisons. Everybody has a different vantage point.


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Posted by:

bob w.

with with??


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Posted by:

bob w.

Norm, is Randy any good with with a shoulder mounted rocket launcher? If so, he should get himself an agent pronto.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Groan!!!!!!!!!

I got that e mail as soon as I got home today. I'm sure Lorne knows that drummer. He also has one real hot sax player in his bunch that work in the studio.

I'm not sure if you know Randy Raiment. Randy does a lot of work in Vegas, and more lately, a lot of cruise ship gigs. He has played his sax with Lorne in a lot of gigs for years.


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Posted by:

Northern Buoy

Location: afloat beyond Hope, BC.

I used to picture Norm as looking like that huge Indian dude in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest", so I can't fault someone picturing him a little along the lines of Lou Ferrigno. I also used to envision Norm as walking around with a parrot on his shoulder, and with a black eye-patch (on the parrot that is, not Norm). But he looks like neither really. Nor for the life of me did I see any Perry Como in Norm when I met him, even when I pictured him in a yellow cartigan. Norm may not even bear as close a resemblance to Godzilla as I may have intimated in an earlier post. Somewhat though, but you have to picture a smaller, more humanoid Godzilla, and one with a Band T shirt on too - and definitely NOT one in a yellow cartigan. This may still be a little bit wide of the mark mind you, but I'm nonetheless glad to have cleared this up on your behalf Norm. (Check your email) NB

PS. Norm bears no resemblance to The Titanic. That's just silly.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I'm Your Captain! - Listen to me........

Good GAWD DAMN! Jeff. Lou Fariggno is an iron pumper fer-chris-sake. I'm a puny little runt compared to him. Ask Northern Buoy. I probably look more like Daffy Duck.

Ok Steve...OK! I'm just starting to think, in this day and age, this pirate thing is getting kinda stupid. With all the resources available, to see huge ships being way-laid by a couple of guys in a little outboard motored runabout makes no sense. I'd love to be a sniper on one of those ships and blow the sons-a-bitches out of the water.

Your idea of protection cash makes far more sense. Why don't these shipping outfits just make their donation monthly to these guys at an agreed drop off spot. The pirates save a little outboard fuel. The shipping companies save time, and screwing around is all out of the way. They get their cash, no one gets hurt. Every body lives happily ever after. Somalia will get their charity donations. The United Nations can go about other business. We're getting gouged for every thing we buy from over there any way so what in hells the difference?

The onliest thing is, I guess Jimmy Buffet was wrong in his song, "A Pirate Looks at Fourty", when he sings;

The cannons don't thunder, there's nothing to plunder,

The plundering sure the hell is going on.

Good going David, Jeff needed setting straight on Hoyt's momma's contribution to Heart Break Hotel.

SMARTEN UP JEFF!!!!!!!!!


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: beyond Hope, BC.

Subject: Thinking Outside La Boite

A fine bit of divergent, non-fact-based thinking, Steve. I knew you had it in you. NB


Entered at Thu Apr 9 23:10:57 CEST 2009 from 21cust4.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.4)

Posted by:

Steve

Maybe they could hire the pirates to make sure the ships get safe passage. I think it's called protection money. It goes on all the time in business.


Entered at Thu Apr 9 21:29:20 CEST 2009 from gpf-t197.gpnet.dnd.ca (131.137.245.197)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: avast

Peter V.: Like every other godless commercial enterprise, shipping concerns are concerned to cut costs. Even small teams of well-trained ex-soldiers don't come cheap. It's a supply-and-demand thing; well-trained ex-soldiers are much in demand these days, contracting in e.g. southwest Asia.

Seriously, I expect the 'solution' will be from navies and possibly special forces, at the urging of the insurance industry.

Half-seriously, I expect the Agency is working up a targeted outbreak of psittacosis.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: And This Is All I've Got To Say About That

Joan, Jian is a great interviewer as I've mentioned many times before. The program is worth a listen almost everyday. Tomorrow Diana Krall, live in studio as an example, next week Leonard Cohen.

just a couple of last things about Billy Bob. It was interesting how he thought Tom Petty might be an appropriate yardstick to guide how he should be treated when it came to the questioning.

He also seemed to be confused about the time of day. he said he wasn't going to bring his drums( Like he carries them himself)into the studio at 6 in the morning. The interview was at 10am.

He also insisted that his is the only band in the last 30 years to play their style of music, "Cosmic Cowboy". He must lead a sheltered musical existence. Someone should introduce him to The Sadies.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Billy Bob

What a Dickhead! It is amazing he was granted the time and courtesy he got. I feel for Jian. He showed excellent restraint.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Pirates

Years ago, I was on a flight next to a guy from P&O Cruises. He had been in Nepal setting up systems to recruit ex-British army Gurkhas as security guards for cruise liners. I made a couple of jokes about drunken passengers, and he said the point was the seas around Indonesia where piracy was going to be the major problem of the next decade. Africa turned out to be worse. I would have thought a small team of well-trained ex-soldiers with a decent small guided missile system could see off most pirates … except those ships are so huge that once they'd got close it would have to be smaller weapons. Didn't a cruise liner see them off last year?


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: If My Life Was In Jeopardy

Norm, for 1000 points and the win, my question to the answer , " The song I'd be singing if I was being chased by pirates," IS ....... What is, "If I Had A Rocket Launcher!"


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: I walk a lonely street.....

Interesting interview Jeff. I would point out that Otis Blackwell wasn't involved in writing "Heartbreak Hotel". It was written by Tommy Durden and Mae Axton, the mother of Hoyt Axton. Mr. Durden was a pedal steel guitarist from Georgia, who played with Tex Ritter & others. He was inspired to write the song after reading a newspaper story about a man who committed suicide and left a note that said "I walk a lonely street". With Ms. Axton's help they composed the classic song that Elvis recorded. I would add that this is just one of many examples that the blues knows no color barriers -- it is an equal opportunity destroyer.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Lars, Dlew,

Lars: Considering norm's perspective,& looking at that commerical of Westo again, I'm thinking he's right about that big bird /donald duck to Westo/ Como analogy. Norm? Lars? Maybe an older Lou Ferrigno with a Perry Como doo?

Dlew, i'd just say food and music are universals, people's relationships to em vary. For every musical cook I'd bet there are a million tone deaf people who like Underwood spreadable ham ( or their local comparable edible) happily listening to digitally recorded music on an iPod. .

Have a good day folks.


Entered at Thu Apr 9 16:32:33 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Here's a link for those of you captivated by the thought of Celine Dion and her husband buying the Montreal Canadiens. Band link: Husband Rene was a singer in the '60s, and his vocal group, Les Baronets, guested at least once on the weekly TV show hosted by Robbie Lane and the Disciples, who'd previously shared the stage with our guys and had replaced them as Hawkins' backup group.

The new edition of "Uncut" has a first-rate article on Neil Young's archival set. They took the trouble to talk to a bunch of people involved in the unreleased recordings, which date back to the Peg in '63.

dlew: I knew that's what you meant - and agree totally.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Jeffo

There's a bizarre link between musicians and cooks - eg, Buddy Guy has claimed he's a better cook than musician... any thoughts?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Excerpt from a Blueswax interview with Cyril Neville. Blueswax is on on line magazine. Anyone can register.

Cyril Neville: My dad was a cab driver and at times I used to just ride with him. His taste in music ranged from Arthur Prysock and Billy Eckstine all the way to Hank Williams. So, I'm riding in his cab one day and he's listening to Country and Western music and I'm going, "Shit!" But I don't wanna say nothing. So we pull up next to another car and James Brown is on the other guy's radio. I immediately went to the radio. I started changing the station. He said, "What are you doing?" I said, "James Brown is on." He said, "James Brown? Leave that alone. All the screaming and shit. I don't wanna hear that!" And I said, "Daddy, that James Brown." He said, "I know James Brown, but you know what? James Brown don't even know who he is. Got all that shit in his head." I wished I could get my hair to look like that. I wouldn't have told him that.

I turned the station and Otis Redding was on. And he said, "Now that boy there I could listen to him." I said, "Well, shit, Otis Redding is screaming, too." He said, "Yeah, but look at his hair. He know who he is." So that was a hell of a lesson right there. So if he turned the station and here's Hank Williams. So, I say, "Daddy, why you listening?" This is maybe after two songs went off. He said, "Man, if you listen closely enough, that's the white man's Blues." I said, "What do you mean by that?" He turned it back on and another song came on, and sure enough, I got it. "Yeah, that's tellin' the same kind of stories B.B. tells, it just fell out of another neighborhood."

Don Wilcock for BluesWax: When did you first get into the music?

CN: My association with the Blues started in the kitchen when I used to hang out with my mom and my aunt because I wanted to learn how to cook. At the same time, that's where the radio was. When certain stuff came on the radio I had to be close to it so I could put my hand on it, so I could actually feel the vibration, and once I [saw] different things about different dances because they all could dance, and I noticed some of the dances they did looked a lot like the stuff we were doing. So they would tell me what the names of the dances was. I'd tell them what the names of the dance was we were doing. They'd tell me that was bullshit. Whatever!

One of the people that got me a real good lesson about was Wynonie Harris. I'd hear my aunt in the kitchen. Boy, they just goin' to town! I'd go back there and there's a song on. They was in ecstacy! They told me the name of some of the dance was. They was doing the Eagle Rock, they was doin' the Snatch Back, they was doin' the Snake Hip, and the Black Bottom. And they all looked like dances I had. Some of it looked like the Slop. Some of it was like the Mashed Potato. Some of it looked like some of the other things being done at that time, but the point being was some of the stuff my aunt was doing, she said, "This is how Mr. Blues do it," and that's who she was talkin' about, Wynonie Harris. And she said, "That boy with the guitar, that's where he get his stuff from. So the white boy with the guitar." At that point in my life there ain't but one white boy with a guitar that was shaking and waving his hair like a brother and that was Elvis. So, I said, "What you mean?" And she say, "Let me show you." She showed me certain things and it was exactly what she said, and that was The Snake Hip. "He got that from Mr. Blues," and she told me another story about a man named Blackwell.

BW: Otis Blackwell who wrote a lot of Elvis' early material.

CN: Writing all the songs! And my other aunt said, "Yeah, what does a cute white boy like that know about 'Heartbreak Hotel' if somebody black hadn't told him about it?" Then, that started me asking questions of my dad and different people. "How come you look on TV and you see The Grand Ole Opry, and you see all these Country and Western stars on TV and everything? How come they don't have a Grand Ole Blues Place?" And boy, he just went to fallin' out laughing at me. "Hey, we ain't got none is 'cause we ain't got any money to build none. That's why!" Then someone else would say, "Even if we did have the money, we wouldn't be able to get no building to be able to do it in anyway." Then I hear another one, "Yeah, they don't want catchin' up to them no kind of way."


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Slaughter of the Innocents

Bill M; Steve; Empty Now: when I speak of 'innocents', I look at those who have not asked for battle, those who have truly done no wrong - I don't look at 'sides', I don't look at 'faith', I don't look at 'nationality', 'ethnicity' or 'language'. I look at those who always suffer in war - the non-combatants caught in the middle. When I speak of innocents, I speak of innocent Israelis killed; I speak of innocent Palestinians killed - killed because they were there - not because they were soldiers, or becasue they were those who followed a policy of hatred, of fear, of division.

I believe that Arab and Israeli governments should be held to account, as UK and US ones shoudl be (and, let's be honest, australian ones). The Israeli govt, or the Syrian govt (to pick two examples), do not hold any special privileges, but should behave justly, fairly and compassionately.

As I said, when I speak of innocents, I don't mean to take sides. I look at the civilians, (often needlessly) killed to push the agendas of the powerful and unjust.

One thing history has taught me: Although faith is often used as a trigger point for violence, it is not very often hat faith is the issue. Look at Northern Ireland - why is it that Catholics and Protestants fought for so long?

Look at non-faith issues: land, wealth, power. You'll find an answer there.


Entered at Thu Apr 9 14:47:31 CEST 2009 from (207.81.196.79)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Billy Bob - typical redneck name

Mike, if you think this asshole is so cool, listen to how he calls, Canadian music fans, (mashed potatoes without the gravy). His behaviour was to show contempt, and as an actor, (would be) he came off with nothing but contempt, and was disrespectful to his own band. He is insignificant anyway, so who really gives a shit.

Steve, some times you go out of your way to sound as stupid as possible. If you were riding a ship with a few million gallons of fuel aboard, and some one came around shooting a grenade launcher at you, you'd be singing a different song.

If these shipping companies are willing to pay over 150 mill in ransoms, it would seem a lot more economical to have a dozen mercenaries on each ship, armed with a lot of the available technology. Some thing like Bruce Willis used in "The Jackal".

If some one was coming along side me in some speed boat with an automatic rifle, you can be gawd damn sure I would be arming myself. This whole senario is idiotic.


Entered at Thu Apr 9 14:17:12 CEST 2009 from sannin29137.nirai.ne.jp (203.160.29.137)

Posted by:

Fred

Billy Bob does come off as a major league douchebag in that interview. I wonder if it's his phobia of furniture that is to blame?


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Posted by:

Steve

Mike, listen to the interview before taking Billy Bob's side. He was a complete jerk. The interview was to support his tour, if anything was fluff, it was the cells in Billy Bob's brain. I'm assuming you haven't listened to or watched the interview.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Yo Ho Ho, Someone's Been In The Rum

If Monty Python was still in the movie business the tomfoolery going on on the high seas would surely hand them a self written script.

Seems 1 US missile armed destroyer is not enough force to safely approach and pull over a speeding row boat with 4 Somali pirates on board.

Fortunately 6 more war ships are cruising at warp speed to help the destroyer surround the row boat. Hopefully the rescue fleet includes at least one aircraft carrier and a sub, just to be on the safe side. 7 war ships against 4 pirates will probably tip the odds in the US favour making an attempted boarding less risky. Pirates are an untrustworthy lot though, they probably have a couple of those big pirate knives, possibly a sword or two and a parrot on board.

Monty you left us too soon.


Entered at Thu Apr 9 13:42:42 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

We met Billy Bob & The Boxmasters @ Levon's Ramble & he was great. As many folks (namely celebs) do, he probably gets annoyed w/ the same redundant joke interviews that amount to fluff.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

"Your secret is safe with me."


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Steve, here's the CNN piece on the interview you cited.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Listening Habits...and The Beatles 9/9/09

65% car CD player

20% car satellite radio

10% car radio

5% music DVDs at home

I'd love to have good CD reissues of "Abbey Road" and "The White Album" first of all, but I'd even give Sgt. Pepper a try again since the original issue sounds muddy and generally awful. Bonus tracks would be nice, too...


Entered at Thu Apr 9 01:07:36 CEST 2009 from blk-222-223-111.eastlink.ca (24.222.223.111)

Posted by:

JOE J

Subject: Billy Bob

Heard that interview Steve. Yeah, I think Thornton proved himself to be a total asshole and though the music might be worth a second listen, I doubt I ever will.


Entered at Thu Apr 9 00:46:27 CEST 2009 from 21cust148.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.148)

Posted by:

Steve

Jian Ghomeshi had the thin skinned redneck, Billy Boob Thornton, and his band on Q today. Billy Boob was auditioning for the horses ass of the century. He insisted that nothing about his career as an actor, director or screen writer be mentioned.

Everyone had to pretend that his band is opening for Willie Nelson on this tour purely on their own merit as a band.

When Jian committed the cardinal sin of dealing with reality by mentioning Billy Boob's day job, he started acting like a flaming asshole.

This went on for about 20 minutes and is worth a listen, you can find it on youtube by now no doubt or hear it on Q tonight on CBC radio at 10 pm.

Billy Boob will be opening for Willie tonight at Massey Hall.I hope someone who heard the farce today stands up at a quiet time during Billy Boob's session and shouts, " HEY BILLY BOB DON"T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB!"


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: David P, Kevin, Fopp

David:Is the new Basement Tapes worth buying? Is improvement great?

90% CD at home, reasonable system. 10% CD portable.

In Fopp in Edinburgh yesterday, there was a Levon Helm section with 4 CDs. Yet, unusually, no Robbie section, but hugely looking forward to Robbie's new album.

Also, kind chap at specialist folkshop asked if I had Levon's new album. Saw the remastered Band albums. Edinburgh is always a beautiful city to visit.


Entered at Thu Apr 9 00:13:45 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Speaking of books, yesterday I spotted what I assume to be new editions of a couple of notable volumes on the shelves of the local bookstore: Greil Marcus's "Mystery Train" with a shot of our guys on the cover and a comprehensively revamped discography; and Al Kooper's "Backstage Passes" with its descriptions of Dylan's two early electric gigs with Robbie and Levon, and also two mentions of Sandy Konikoff - one when Sandy, Kooper and Jim Fielder were a trio pre-BS&T and one when Sandy invented the 'sphincterphone'.


Entered at Wed Apr 8 22:16:02 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Fans (including Sebastian Robertson's) thoughts on TLW's best moments.

Robbie's son (Sebastian) asked fans on "The Band" "facebook" page what their fav moment from "The Last Waltz" is / was...whether they were @ the actual show, in a movie theater or on the couch. Sebastian stated that Robbie thinks Van Morrison looked like a trapeze artist during "Caravan."


Entered at Wed Apr 8 21:18:18 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It may have been me, Jan … I think Bomber Boys is great too. My copy is signed … I went to see him speak in Salisbury last year. What got me was that if you had maths GCE (or whatever it was in those days) at age 16, then at 18 you would certainly have been assigned to the air force. A friend's dad was a pilot and said his test was one question, "What's the square root of 25?" He answered correctly and was put straight into pilot training, and ended up on Sunderlands then with BOAC for the rest of his career.

The death rate of bomber crews in WW2 was higher than infantry in the trenches in WW1. Joseph Heller knew that.


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Recent orders from amazon.com

  • Lt. Col. Eugene T. Carson, Wing Ding: Memories of a Tail Gunner
  • Chuck Alling, A Mighty Fortress: Lead Bomber Over Europe
  • Paul LaRaia (photos), Levon Helm's Midnight Ramble
  • Malcolm Bobbitt, VW Karmann Ghia
  • John Muir, Tosh Gregg, and Peter Aschwanden, How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive: A Manual of Step-by-Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot
  • Neeli Cherkovski, Bukowski: A Life
  • Howard Sounes, Charles Bukowski: Locked in the Arms of a Crazy Life
  • The Charles Bukowski Tapes (DVD)
  • Bukowski: Born Into This (DVD)
  • John Fante, Ask the Dust
  • Bob Mould, Life and Times (CD)
  • Patrick Bishop, Bomber Boys: Fighting Back, 1940-1945
  • Patrick Bishop, Fighter Boys: The Battle of Britain, 1940
The two Bishop books were ordered after recommendations posted here (from Peter, I believe), Bomber Boys was excellent.

And now, off to the UK for a little visit to London and an old-fashioned Easter wedding down in lovely Somerset -- our dear UK friends' daughter is getting married this Saturday.

Hm, any Band fans in Central London up for a pint tomorrow or on Friday?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Listening Breakdown

35% Computer

20% Car Radio

40% Car CD Player

5% Cable TV Music Channel


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: myTunes

Average breakdown of my music listening:

45% vinyl
40% home CD players
5% portable CD player on train commute to work
5% XM/Sirius satellite radio
5% various tv music programming, including cable music channels


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Never Count The Cossacks Out

Peter, in Antony Beevor's excellent retelling of the fall of Berlin in 1945, surprisingly called, The Fall of Berlin 1945, he does mention the horse backed Cossacks who fought on both sides.

Goebbels even received a delegation of Cossacks on Feb 12 in his office to share a bottle of Weisshier. Goebbels praised the Cossacks, calling them a "freedom-loving" people of warrior-farmers.

The Cossacks even fought in the mountains in Northern Italy for the Germans.


Entered at Wed Apr 8 19:12:54 CEST 2009 from (89.240.199.67)

Posted by:

luke m

Subject: %

Kevin, that's an interesting question. For me, it would be about 15% car, about 50% home PC speakers from iTunes library, about 35% iPod - that's both when I'm out and about, and when I'm at home and I stick it in a portable speaker and carry it around the house. Oh and there's a CD player in the kitchen. None of these are ideal, I have to say. The PC speakers are the best in terms of a real stereo acoustic but they just aren't very good or very loud. iPod with good headphones is great but I usually use it in noisy spots. Car - great under 30mph then it all goes haywire with the noise of the engine and the air con etc.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Passover

Happy Passover to all who celebrate.


Entered at Wed Apr 8 18:58:59 CEST 2009 from (89.240.199.67)

Posted by:

luke m

Subject: five

I know what you mean about the early ones. I think I'd have to go for Rubber Soul AND Revolver. And I'd also need Abbey Road because the sound is so unique - and should come over beautifully on side 2. Then it gets hard. I have to have an early LP, I think it would have to be A Hard Day's Night. Which leaves me with... just a hunch, but I might go for Beatles for Sale. Kind of appropriate, too..


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Stop looking at Carly Simon covers in the record store!

All this talk of re-releases and vinyl…..I’m curious what people’s listening habits are. In my case, actually listening to recorded music as opposed to playing, I would say it breaks down as follows:

80% car, 15% ipod, 5% home stereo (all of which is vinyl)

I would imagine that David P and Peter are two here that would have a much greater weight on home stereo and vinyl in particular but I wonder what others here are like. Oh… and for Steve….my hundreds of research assistants tell me that tractors would count in the “car” category…..


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Not the Apple of their iTunes

Last I heard was that negotiations between EMI and Apple (the computer entity), regarding the Beatles catalogue on iTunes, have stalled. As usual, speculation is that it's an impasse over $$$$.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Matt Starcher

Hi Matt, I know Parkersburg well. I went to Ohio U in Athens. Look up The Last Waltz on Amazon. You will have no trouble getting a DVD. I hope your students enjoy the movie.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Five remasters?

Hmm. I'm a bit wary of early ones being put in stereo when they were always mono, but at least it won't be the dreadful American stereo mix on the Capitol albums series. I'll have to check out early!

1) Magical Mystery Tour … side two, the great singles.

2) Please, Please Me … as above.

3) Abbey Road … it may or may not benefit, but side two is sublime. And by then they were multi-tracking enough for there to be nuances to mix up etc. (also true of The White Album … but I think the White Album is 50% poor.

4) Sgt Pepper … I doubt they can find any more on the tape, but let's try.

5) Rubber Soul was the first thought, then Revolver, then Rubber Soul, then Revolver, then Rubber Soul.

There's a strong argument in favour of Past Masters Volume 1.


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Posted by:

Bill M

dlew: Or read "The Haj" by Leon Uris for a longer version of same. Given the impossibility of knowing history, it seems fair to call Uris a historian.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: stem cell may help dog

see the link.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: whither the old Beatles CDs?

I don't know - but I'm glad they're coming out on CD before they came out on iTunes, because I couldn't have resisted on iTunes either and then I wouldn't have been able to afford the new CDs! Assuming I can in September.. I've only got a couple of the old CDs. Peter, if you could only have 5 of the new remasters, which would they be?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Spelling correction

That should have been fuckzuch,or fuchzuch. No way to get the proper pronuciation across. The spirit, well you can come close to getting the spirit, but the proper pronunciation does definitely add a dimension.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bruce Cockburn's fine new 2-disc live compilation "Slice 'O Life" was produced by Colin Linden, who also lent a hand in recording & mixing the songs.

Bashful Bill: The new version of the Basement Tapes features the same material as the previous Columbia/Sony version, remastered using current digital technology. While it features more clarity & detail, there are no additional cuts included from the "real" Basement Tape reels. :-(


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Posted by:

Friend0

Geez Empty. That's all it is. And I was thinking your old lady might have left you, and then got involved with an Israeli man. I'm glad it turned out not to be personal.

Dlew, next time you want to discuss the plight of the innocents, as a historian research how the palestinians became refugees. The people who became the first jewish inhabitants of the state of Israel, did make a rather large campaign / effort in an attempt to prevent the arab population fom leaving when statehood was mandated and took effect. It was the Arab leaders who encouraged and later kept encouraging Palestiainain diaspora which led to the creation and perpetuation of a refugee population. Plight of the innocents? Terrorists been killing innocent jews and Israelis over there since way before statehood. Any one ever hear of fedayeen?... The jewish settlers that built israel were asking for the arabs to stay and build the country with them. Arab leaders did not want that to happen. It was the Arab leaders who wanted Jewish blood and still want it that have perpetuated this crime against their own people. Israel has been trying to deal with it without massacreeing anyone best they can. And dealing with it in such away that has allowed their own people to be terrorized. In 67 Israel easily could have over run several Arab countries. They didn't, and it came back to cost many Israeli lives over the years.

You got your response empty. My responding to you has nothing to do with retaining crediibility. I really don't give a fuck. I'm answering you only to say what needs to be said. and if you don't like it, fucksuch. You've had your say, I've had mine. You've been asking for it for a while. Now you got it. if you want to continue this, or if anyne else wants to continue it with me, take it to private e mail with me. Other than that, L'chaim. Good Pesach, Happy Easter. Mountain, Mohammed. Besides Jezebel and Sheherezade that's the only arabic I know , so it will have to suffice.


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Posted by:

matt starcher

Location: parkersburg wv
Web: My link

Subject: last waltz

i am trying to find a dvd or video of the last waltz to show my rock and roll history class.i love the band and try to impress the place they hold in rock history upon my students.thanks matt


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Taxman …

Bugger. Fifteen Beatles CDs? That'll be around £200 then. And what do I do with the old ones?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dunc: Just a reminder that Corb Lund, mentioned here several times of late, is something of an Ian Tyson protege. Tyson even takes over lead vocalist duties on one song on a recent CD (and Ramblin' Jack Elliot sings another.)

Speaking of Baklava, how can I not take the opportunity to link to Fred Eaglesmith's "The Light Brigade" (#16 down the right side of the link above)?


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Posted by:

luke m

Web: My link

Subject: more on 9/9

This article starts quite nicely, thus: 'The Beatles, Apple Corps and EMI Music have finally, at long last, agreed to rake in several million pounds.' All I can say is, if I am flush on 9th Sept, I won't be for long - there's going to be a box set option.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Balaclava

I think artillery was the key rather than infantry. The British cavalry charged up a valley lined with artillery. It's another battle that Harry Flashman participated in. On the other hand, I read a fascinating book "Warriors of the Steppes" about the various Mongol / Hun invasions, and it says they were highly trained horsemen and archers who could fire arrows from a charging horse. Their days ended with the musket, because a horseback warrior with years of training could be easily defeated by a farmer with a gun.

First we have a town named after a railway station, now one named after headgear.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Peter V / Sadavid

Peter V, Thanks for the complement on Waterloo

Sadavid: Thanks for the link. Lund Corb “At Crimea with the charging light brigade” refers a disastrous charge of the British* cavalry led by Lord Cardigan against Russian forces during the Battle of Balaclava on 25 October 1854 in the Crimean War, and reported in Alfred Lord Tennyson poem, seemingly written “live” from Balaclava
From what I knew** about the Crimean war, it was the first one where Infantry proved superior to Cavalry. horses die in the war too, that was important to be recalled, for The Band Connection, according to recorded sources, in the battle of Gettysburg 881 horses of the Union were lost, wheras the Confederacy lost 619 horses

footnotes:
*anyone noticed that I started in my recent posts not to miss the slightest opportunity to criticize Israel. It’s a quest for GB credibility, as long as remain people not sure of me Arab
** ie what’s in official History, not what actually happened – following recent frightening posts, I understood that History is nothing but altered tales about fictitious facts, whose usefulness and purpose is to “scientifically” justify eventual profit and political propaganda – this is a 2nd The Band Connection


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: reissues?

I either recently heard or read, or possibly dreamed, that reissues of Before The Flood & Basement Tapes are in the works.I have wildly vivid dreams& on at least a couple occasions have confused then with real memories but eventually figured it out. Anyway - is that possible, that they might be doing something with that music? I've long felt that if someone did a good job of the real BT it would be of interest to more than just us diehard Band fans......


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Posted by:

Friend0

Booker T Jones new album, Potato Hole , here's a curve. His band on the record is The Drive By Truckers. Neil Young plays guitar on 9 songs. Sounds like it will be pretty raw, a guitar record.



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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The "Unfinished" Sonata!!!!!!!

Hello Serenity you sweet young thing! This past weekend, Lorne, Eddy & I finished the last song. Now, Eddy just has to finish mixing it. I spoke today when I got home, to the fellow who is going to do the mastering work. Eddy will get the CD to him as soon as he is finished. When Alex is finished the master copy, I will get it down the Western Imperial Magnetics right away.

The only hang up for what ever time, ( a few weeks possibly), is getting my application through, CMRRA for the rights to use seven of the songs. Being as this is early April, I'm shooting for some time in June. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. As soon as it is finished, it will be available online, at wwwdotlornejonesdotcom.

LARS! GAWD DAMN IT! I look as much like Perry Como as big bird looks like Donald Duck. I just can't see it ol' buddy. Is it finally warming up there? Now I've got another cross to bare. I'm being compared to Godzilla fer Chris sake. Bill Munson or sen, I forget which thinks I'm the Titanic.

I got a few days work on my tug now, but I'm going down to my new digs on the rabbit weekend. Susan "insists". She loves it there so much, I got to drag her away by the hair. Anyway pretty soon we'll be all done, and back to normal hopefully. Keep those three bales of hay spread out under that tree like I told yuh.


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Posted by:

Steve

Sadavid, your right about Corb Lund's Horse Soldier, Horse Soldier, though I remember it was a little difficult the first time through but has gotten much better with each listen. Actually it was catching my attention by the half way point the first time. I can't comment on what it looks like though, I've never seen it.

I've heard him on Q doing a couple of his other songs as well.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Bassman Lee

Hey lee, Apparently I've misplaced your email address. But as a bassist, this should interst you. For some time now, Jack Casady, Pete Sears, and GE Smith have had a band, if i recall correctly, the name is Moon Alice. They have dates out west fairly often, but are coming this way soon. A friend keeps reminding me.Seems there are Jersey and NYC shows, maybe other places as well. Just google Moon Alice, or some of the names, and of course, you are in business.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Prednisone

Bill- As far as prednisone putting hair on me, I guess I didn't take that high of a dosage. I never had a swelling problem either. Supposedly Rick Danko was on prednisone towards the end of his life and that's what caused his "moon" (swollen) face.

My wife teaches kindergarten and one of her kids is a little girl with a brain tumor. She's got a badly swollen face from that drug. Her parents have taken her to Disney World and they've stopped the chemo because it's hopeless. She still comes in for a couple of hours each school day, then her mother takes her home when she gets too tired. It's very sad.

This reminds me of the night I ended a show with "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry." Sredni really chewed me out on the ride home, about ending the night on such a downer. He was yelling about "all of the hillbillies back at the bar are probably gonna slit their wrists when they get home." He used to be so funny whenever he got angry.


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Posted by:

NB

Location: beyond Hope, BC

Subject: Jan F/ Serenity

Yes Jan, it is indeed fun to actually meet your fellow GBers. Serenity, I'd definitely look BEG up in Toronto except for the fact that she's vanished from here (as noted by Joan and possibly others) and has not responded to two emails I've sent her. More might be considered harrassment. So I'm kind of at a loss. I hope she resurfaces though.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: Tombstone, this and that

Got around to downloading the "lost" Tombstone album from the link provided a while back. Interesting. Jules Shear is actually not a bad fit, and while the album does not have a consistent feel to it, it has its charms. The sound quality is not the best, but then it's a boot. It's a shame better source material has not surfaced. It is is also interesting to speculate whether Shear would have toured with the Boys had the album been released and what impact that would have had on later endeavors. We'll never know...

BTW, there is a lot of interesting stuff on that site.

Coincidentally, Peter, I was reading the front of the latest Sing Out! this morning, in which there was a story about a judge in colonial New Jersey who was presented with one of those witchcraft accusation cases involving the old sink-or-float test. When the accused asked that the accusers be subject to the same test, he agreed. Needless to say the charges soon evaporated.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: New Neil Young "Fork in the Road" album out in stores today.


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Posted by:

bob w.

David P, any word on which will be the one after 9 .09 ?


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Posted by:

Simon

Subject: Orange Juice Blues / vinyl reissues / Kinks

Hello all. I'm a little late on this but I was thinking about Orange Juice Blues and how it might not be a blues at all, looking at the chords. I always liked the song as I first heard the Basement Tapes shortly after getting into The Band's first three albums, although I'd been listening to Dylan for a couple of years by then but hadn't heard the BT. I like that version of OJB the best. Also I was wondering if the opening line is a twist on the old line "Well, I woke up this morning..."

My reading of the supposed 'put down' by Robbie that Ari posted is that it's just a comment on the worst excesses of the confessional singer-songwriter mode. "Glass of orange juice" could just as easily have been cup of coffee/bowl of Corn Flakes. That's how I read it ... it got me thinking about John Lennon who was making a point around that time of talking about how his songs were all in the first person and how he didn't write songs about postmen and secretaries - a dig at Paul.

Also picked up the latest vinyl reissues of MFBP and TB. Haven't had a chance to play them yet but they've done a really nice job on the packaging. And a nice little touch is the textured sleeve TB. Also no barcodes to spoil the 'repro' effect. I'm sure they'll sound good too. I managed to get them for a very reasonable £12 each. MFBP has the gatefold cover instead of the inferior UK cover. [BTW apologies to those who've e-mailed me recently ... I'll get in touch soon. It's just been unavoidable things that we all have to deal with.]

Thinking about that Kinks ban - not being able to tour America between (I think) '65 and '69 - there's a note in that Ian MacDonald Beatles book about how that changed their sound. Did they concentrate upon a certain 'Englishness' as a result? Or how would their music have sounded had they not been banned from the States?

David - that sounds like a number 9 dream.


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Posted by:

NB

Location: beyond Hope, BC.

Subject: Northern Boy Meets Westcoaster (Jeff, Lars etc.)

Didn't mean to be so scant in describing our time with Norm. I'll writ'er up on the weekend, to use Norm parlance. Suffice it to say it was a very cool day and from so many different standpoints. In other words, "Northern Boy Meets Westcoaster" was nothing like "Godzilla Meets Bambi ". That 90 sec. animated short flick ended with Godzilla's giant foot coming down and flattening the living crap out of Bambi. Then, coincidentally, the words "The End" appear on the screen, followed by the credits. Well, like I said, I fared waaaaaaaaay better than Bambi did. Details to follow. NB


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Leave well alone

The old family doctor we had in the early 80s used to tell us that the way to becoming a really successful doctor was to do nothing at all. Ever. Patients were always cheered up by being told ‘I’m not going to prescribe you anything’ and instantly felt better. He also had yards of statistics to prove that doing absolutely nothing had the best success rate. If a doctor does F*ck all, at least half the patients will get better of their own accord. Some of the others will die, but they would have died anyway and are off the statistics. A minority … in all branches of medicine, he would proudly say … benefiited from intervention. I used to like him very much. “I’m overweight,” I’d say, “I need a diet.”

“You’re not as overweight as me,” he’d say, “Fine figure of a man.”

“I have lumbar pain. It’s bad all day and then it goes when I’ve had half a bottle of wine with dinner.”

“Can you afford half a bottle of wine with dinner?” he’d say.

“Yes, I can.”

“Then you don’t have a problem,” he’d say.

They don’t make them like that any more.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Lars: I get that you're hairy, but I can't tell from your post if it's because of the viking ancestry or the prednisone.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Viking ancestory

Subject: Various

Peter- The late Gen John Wayne used to brag about being in the Battle of Hastings. I'm pretty sure he was lying because when I asked him when the battle was fought, he was hesitant and said it was a few years before he fought at the Alamo.

Northern Boy- I'm glad to hear about Norm's gig. You alone have the honor of being the only GBer to hear him do "The Weight."

FriendO- Actually, I think Westie really IS Perry Como, but he's too stubborn to admit it.

Jan F- Thanks for the advice. I really don't want to get my shoulder operated on. The doctor said I have severe tears in both my rotator cuffs, plus a bone spur in the right shoulder. I know a couple of people who've had the operation and they never got all of their strength back. When I retired a few years back I got the diagnosis. I figure as long as I can still climb trees I'll be alright. My tendons are questionable because I used a lot of prednisone after spinal surgury in 2002. It's an evil drug, but I had to use it in order to go to work, laying stone. During those last days, I often thought about the Eagle's "Desperado" lyrics, "Is there gonna be anything left, is there gonna be..." I hope nobody reading this repeats my mistake.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: More news on The Beatles.

WATERLOO is also our [Kitcheners'] twin city, and a lovely one.Just had to throw that one in.

NORM: You sweetie for mentioning my name to NO. Too bad your visit couldn't have been longer. When will we be able to buy your CD here in the east? I'm anxiously waiting for it.

NORTHERN BOY: I told you so. NORM is a real fun guy to be with, and with SUSAN made your visit all the better. Thanx for the mention. When you go to TOronto, don't forget BEG lives there too. I also believe MIKE isn't too far away, but I'm not sure about that.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE XOXOXO


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Beatles remasters

According to breaking news, remastered versions of the Beatles catalogue will be released on 9/9/09. Can you say #9 :-)


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kevin/ Richard clip

Thank you for posting that clip. What a voice. totally amazing.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Richard Manuel Clip

I had ordered “Be Here to Love Me” ( Townes Van Zandt doc ) some weeks back and finally received it last night. Extremely well done….a sad story really but well worth seeing. For any songwriters out there, some interesting thoughts from Guy Clarke on just how hard TVZ worked on his songs…..a lot of very hard work as it turns out.

Check out he above clip of Richard Manuel….then remember that the Band also had TWO OTHER singers that rank with the best the rock world has ever known….and two other guys that were pretty good musicians….the mind boggles…..

Rock n Roll Hall of Fame: Chrissie Hyde and Bonnie Riatt are in…….Not In: Leon Russell…..Mick Ronson…..Faces…..Little Feat…..Joy Division


Entered at Tue Apr 7 15:59:33 CEST 2009 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Lars, I'm not sure if you got an answer regarding your shoulder surgery (for a 2nd opinion), but here's my opinion: wait five years and then if you still need the surgery, you can decide at that time. Has worked for me for about the last 10 years regarding sinus surgery I need. I'm facing it again and the doctor said "I can also fix your nose." Uh . . . anybody out there that has met me, tell me what the heck is wrong with my nose? That would NOT be high on my agenda list of possible plastic surgery.

Band connection: The Shape I'm In . . . .

WC & NB, isn't fun meeting people from the GB? That reminds me, ABBY, if you are out there, please e-mail me!!

J.F.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Mi Amigo y su amigo Felix Cabrera linked above. The show Kay reviewed on the page, was a great show. We shared a table in t he basement of that bar/ club, which closed just a few months later. It was good while it lasted but, during performances rats started running across the exposed wires and cables above the stage. And the place was starting to get too moldy to endure anymore. But Felix did do some great shows there. No matter who is playing guitar, Jimmy, Arthur Neilson, Jason green, Andy Falco (now living in Nashville and touring with his bluegrass band), or Donnie Celenza, expect a great performance from Felix and his band.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I'm sure I'm not the only poster who's heard and likes Bruddah Iz's ukelele-backed medley of "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" and "What A Wonderful World". Or note strong similarities between that and the "I'm Yours" song that's on the radio these days - I believe by a young guy from Richmond VA. Anyway, running that song through my head this morning, I realised that it sounds a lot like a slowed-down version of "Blitzkrieg Bop".

Norbert: Listening to Mary Margaret O'Hara's "Miss America" over the last couple days, the thought struck me that she's a cross between Nick Cave and Shania Twain.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Guest Book Mainstream

I'm gettin' to old for this shit!

Northern Buoy - We left right after you, got our taxi back to our hotel. We left our rig there so Susan and I could have a couple of beer together, and not have to drive. We had dinner and were in the sack by 21:30 - that's 9:30 PM to the rest-a-ya. Up at 05:45 Monday morning, and got home about 17:00. A long day of travelling. Now to work this morning.

To the rest-a-yuz. Meeting Mr & Mrs Northern buoy was an absolute pleasure. A very good looking couple. Warm people and a lot of fun to sit and chat with. These folks have a standing invitation to our new home in Powell River.

Billy - Bad Ass Munsen is after my ass again. I'm gonna cook up a way to get him out here (by invitation) of taking him out on the newly restored cruiser "Late Nite Lady", and maybe put him off on Mittlenatch Island with the birds, and leave him there. I'm not going to go into the story of Mittlenatch Island. You want to know, google it. It's like the Gallapagos of BC in the middle of Georgia Strait between Campbell River and Powell River. It's a bird sanctuary, in five minutes he'll be covered in bird shit.

We have one more interesting island lower down in the gulf. D'Arcy Island many years ago was a leper colony.....but that's another story.

Northern Buoy, thanks again.........you know.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: routing Bonaparte

GB historians might want to check out Corb Lund's song "Horse Soldier, Horse Soldier." (I know Steve must have heard it, because CBC has a penchant for it lately . . . .)

From Waterloo to The Civil War, and beyond.

It looks pretty clumsy on paper, but young Mr. Lund has the enthusiasm to make it work.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Lost in a masquerade....

Charlie: In addition to his amazing career as a performer, Leon Russell of course also gained fame as a session musician and was a member of the Wrecking Crew.

Peter: I picked up the remastered versions of "New Morning" and "Before The Flood". They were mastered by Greg Calbi at Sterling, who also did "Tell Tale Signs", and sound very nice.

"Everyday I look at the world from my window
But chilly, chilly is the evening time
Waterloo sunset's fine"
--Ray Davies


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Posted by:

Friend0

NB, it would be nce to hear about the show Norm did. People might recall, i was all for him coming here and cutting a few of my #s, with Helm & Hudson.

And Nutjob, when you relay the days events, try to leave out the bood and guts. There are sensitive, and young and old, wimmin folk here.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Well NB. I'm guessing you had a wonderful time. Some of you may recall a long time back, Norm had emailed me some songs he'd done and I commented that he has a good solid traditional country singing voice with a slight Western Canadian accent on it. And that Fast Eddie's production was fine modern production. Modern meanign digital. But it was good. Actually , for someone who detests digital recording and MP3s, I'll give it this strong compliment. The MP3s Norm sent me sounded good, as fine as a MP3 can sound. And separately, the musical performances were all quality country and or country rockish performances.

So, recalling this, and rather surprised at NBs failure to give a report, just giving us a teaser, I figured i;d google and see if the show popped up. Norm Jones, The weight, did not bring up our Norm, but Norm Jones Vancouver sure did. And it turns out Lars is on to something. I see the resemblance to Perry como. Not only that, apparently Norm is following Levon's; lead once more, and branching out into commercials. But actually , it is good to see Norm is a success story. The picture is a good picture, the tug looks clean as a whistle. Norm may have another career ahead of him.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Masters thesis on sculptoral landscape history & preservation presented to Opus 40.

A Masters student Kim Barker assembled a very nice 98-pg thesis that Opus 40 operator Tad Richards posted on his website. Opus 40 is a wonderful W. Saugerties, NY site to behold & Elliott Landy snapped a number of great reunited The Band pics there.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Waterloo, I was defeated, you won the war...

A standup I saw some years ago used Waterloo station as the evidence the English still hated the French. As he said, when you get off the train from France, what station do you alight at?


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, Waterloo, a train station? I thought it was the site of the first flush toilet in the Empire.

Pat remember, there are things we know that we know.

There are known, unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now known that we don't know.

But there are also unknown, unknowns. There are things that we do not know we don't know.

So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say well, that's basically what we see as the situation, that is really the only known knowns and the known unknowns.

And each year we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns. And that's all I have to say about that.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: water = l'eau

Waterloo … the hill is artificial and from 1820? I visited Waterloo when my sister was living in Belgium in the 1970s and we were told by an elderly Frenchman that it was where they’d piled up all the bodies in 1815. That gave us the shivers and was a more exciting, if morbid, explanation. We did note that looking at the souvenir shops, you would have thought Napoleon had won. The Duke of Wellington appears in a couple of Flashman books.

It’s fascinating as a site. As in the American civil war, the gentry rode out in carriages to watch the carnage, a dangerous pursuit if your side lost, one would have thought. Was Waterloo the last major “single battle” (rather than a battle as part of a campaign) where the whole issue was won and lost in a single day? I suppose not.

BUT … I still don’t know why they chose to name a Belgian town after an English railway station.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Hey Northern Boy

Plenty of pubs down here with buy one, get one free. OK, you have to be a lady, but Canadians are generally well-favoured here, so we might be able to convince the barman...


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: For History

Thanks Peter V, great stuff

rom Victor Hugo “Les Misérables” Chap VII:
“Every one is aware that the variously inclined undulations of the plains, where the engagement between Napoleon and Wellington took place, are no longer what they were on June 18, 1815. By taking from this mournful field the wherewithal to make a monument to it, its real relief has been taken away, and history, disconcerted, no longer finds her bearings there.
It has been disfigured for the sake of glorifying it.
Wellington, when he beheld Waterloo once more, two years later, exclaimed, "They have altered my field of battle!"

From wiki:
“The Lion's Mound is a large conical artificial hill raised on the battlefield of Waterloo to commemorate the location where William II of the Netherlands (the Prince of Orange) was knocked from his horse by a musket ball to the shoulder during the battle. It was ordered constructed in 1820 by his father, King William I of The Netherlands, and completed in 1826. Although the father was memorializing his son's courage, and the Dutch call him de Held van Waterloo ("the Hero of Waterloo"), modern historians consider the younger William to have been an indifferent, if not to say incompetent, officer, since he committed at least three catastrophic blunders during Waterloo. [link] The Lion’s Mound has been classified as a Wallonia's Major Hertitage. ”

though really an irrelevant animal for the Duke, more than 50% of the people of the region (and visitors) believe that the lion of Waterloo represents the Duke of Wellington, 10% diehard fans still believe it’s Napoleon. In fact Wallonia major historical monument and tourist attraction glorifies Dutch major incompetent commander


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: In haste on Hastings

Lars, last time I was in Hastings about a year ago the only people who were around seemed to be cross-channel immigrants. Not King William of Orange’s Mormon French from 1046, but more recent refugees. Some of the hotels on the seafront look as if they date from that era of the Angled Saxmen. I agree that it would be hard to prove in a court of law that there were no survivors left. Maybe a Norman court of law would work. They had Trial by Ordeal and Trial by Ducking in water, where if you floated you were guilty. If you sank and died you were innocent. I believe that was revived in Salem. Trial by Combat with your accuser is useful if an aged Battle of Hastings warrior was your opponent, as they’re all a bit stiff by now. Or are stiffs by now. I’d be wary of Trial by Combat because however ancient and decayed those Hastings survivors might look, they’ve only lasted 900 years by having magical powers.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: beyond Hope, BC

Lars and Serenity: Northern Girl and I not only met Norm on Sunday, but did indeed hear him sing with his band. Though we spoke very little about the GB, he fondly mentioned you both. I should probably write something up about the whole day. Lars, have you heard both Levon and Norm perform "The Weight" live, or do I alone hold that distinction among GBers ?

Bill: If you're up for a pint together, let me state categorically that I will be flying to Toronto either this July or August. The trip is prompted by necessity, you understand, as I've just recently discovered in my wallet (from an earlier visit to Toronot) an UNUSED "Two Guinness For The Price Of One" coupon at Finn McCool's Irish Tavern, which expires on Labour Day- the coupon that is, not the tavern, although with those IRA boys you can never be too sure. (Needless to say, I must return to my hometown to rectify this oversight). NB


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: "A Song for You"

Kevin: I love that Leon Russell performance from his prime. Great stuff! And can't you just imagine what Richard Manuel could have done with that song in HIS prime?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, don't sell yourself short. You seem to know some things.

Lars, I'm still at pjlbrennanatmindspringdotcom


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Charlie Y.........

Attached Leon Russell's "A Song For You"


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: too many chords?

Isn't there an interview with the Hawk somewhere qhere he praises Garth for adding chords to a relatively simple song?

Not making a judgement, btw. Now on another point: where's Julie?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Sir Elton Paired With Leon Russell?

David: I hope T-Bone Burnett does get to produce that joint effort between those two piano giants. It could finally get Jann Wenner's Rock'n'Roll Museum to induct Mr. Russell into their Hall of Fame while he's among the living. I hope so.

An artist who connects Sir Elton not only with Leon Russell but also with The Band is Virginia's own piano giant, Bruce Hornsby, who worked with all of them over the years, and even named one of his twin sons Russell in honor of Leon. I once wrote a note during a concert requesting Mr. Hornsby perform a medley of Leon Russell's "Song for You" paired with Elton John's "Your Song" but it didn't happen. Maybe T-Bone Burnett can get the two guys who wrote those songs to make them into a studio medley. It could be great in the hands of the right producer--and Mr. Burnett is most likely that producer.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Blowing In The Wind is on disc 3 of the deluxe edition of "Together Through Life" (released April 27th), which I got notice of today. Jolene is on disc one.

Also, new editions of Before The Flood (which I knew about) and The Basement Tapes (which I didn't) are in the pipeline.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: blowin' in the wind ...

Steve: The answer, my friend, is that in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make - quoting a song that, by my estimation, attempts to iron out troubling moral ambiguities in the preceding song (and, more importantly, its near-namesake and inspiration, our guys' most famous song).


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Foster's Revenge

Former Hawk David Foster has worked with Celine Dion as a producer. Mr. Foster was fired by Ronnie Hawkins, either because he lacked stage presence, or for adding chords to "Bo Diddley", depending on which story you believe.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Bow Thayer & Perfect Trainwreck's "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Chris Bergson Band's "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Steve

I think the "impossibility of knowing anything" is more accurate.

Peter, the fact that Herod even existed is now in some doubt according to some biblical scholars. Where will it end?

I'm starting to think, Northern Boy, as he approaches his fact free fifty five fete, might be on to something.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: New Bob Dylan tune online.

"I Feel a Change a Comin'."


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Posted by:

Bill M

NB: Beleated thanks for the offer of a pint next time you're east. If that means a family health crisis, well, I hope it's a long way off.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Lars: Reading between the lines, NB thinks more of Westcoaster's voice than he does of Celine's. Imagine what the guy could've done with Bocelli by his side at the Legion! (Come to think of it, all those nautical mishaps that he's told us about over the years do suggest the Titanic, don't they?)


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: midway up the Tree of Life

Subject: Battle of Hastings

Peter-

Are you saying...are you absolutely sure...that not ONE veteran of the Battle of Hastings survived? You know--for a fact-- that ALL of them are dead? That's hard to believe.

Perhaps there's at least one, somewhere in the Moors?

I've got to let this sink in. You realize that Diogenes is still walking around.... so at least I have a chance to make 650, like my ancestor Noah did.

Northern Boy- Did you get to meet Norm? He's got some voice, doesn't he? How did the blood initiation go?


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: It's Just The Universe Unfolding As It Should

If Celine Dion does in fact buy the Montreal Canadiens hockey franchise and sing the national anthem at all their home games, properly understood it's merely the karmic payback for all the Quebec residents who mock Toronto's team. Actually the universe is constantly performing millions of these tiny karmic, cosmic corrections, unbeknownst to the untrained eye.

Omnisciently yours, NB


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: History: an impossible way of life

History. Absolutely right. Look at all the great names from history. Dead the lot of them. If life doesn't kill you, history will … Janis, Jimi, Mama Cass, Jerry, Richard, Rick all succumbed to history.

When I was 16 or going on 17, I started the two year Advanced Level history course. Mr Dixon, the deputy headmaster, came in and gave us a twenty minute lecture on history, about how William of Orange conquered King Herod at the Battle of Hastings in 1046, which meant that the Mormons were to rule England instead of the Angled Saxons. At the end of twenty minutes, in which we feverishly took notes, he threw a board duster at the wall, and told us that he'd bullshitted for twenty minutes and that history was about asking questions, never blindly accepting authority, checking facts and never, never accepting bullshit. Wikipedia would be galling to him. It was a damned good lesson, in that I remember it now.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Sir Elton news

Elton John, who is a part-time Atlanta resident, recently told the local newspaper that he hopes to record an album with Leon Russell in the near future, with T-Bone Burnett producing.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Knowing history is a goddamn impossible way of life. And Wikipedia will take you only so far ...


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Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, I'd like to respond but I've been informed that "the Band members could (sic) care less what (I) think" so I refrain. And given Steve's new theory concerning the "impossibility of knowing" history, I suppose I doesn't matter anywho.


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Posted by:

Steve

IIkka, great stuff. Do you write your own material?

Todd good to see your posts still contain parking as a major theme.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Landmark: The only Cheech and Chong record we had growing up. Great wrangy guitar solo by Gaye Delorme - coming soon to Penticton, so it seems.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Subject: Bill M. (Wet snow but no slushball)

Very lame excuse on your part. In french they say "patine mon gars" which translates to "skate boy". Of course your lame reasoning reminds me of a Cheech and Chong sketch where the boy says he can't go to school because of an ear ache. Whereupon the father replies "Ear ache! Ear ache my eye!". Also the title of the finale song from their classic film "Up In Smoke".


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: The intent of your posted response to David P, "ironic indeed given Richard's tastes", would have been clarified by the addition of the words "in cooking surfaces" at the end.

Landmark: Given the trying circumstances, I completely understand your need to lash out. The word "Mud" has popped up occasionally in the mud-or-blood debate re TNTDODD, but in a hockey context it is most often heard with reference to Mr Bruneteau, world famous for having scored the goal that ended the longest game on record.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: ...only three and a half hours car ride from this goddamned server

Subject: Closing down this site / Rename it to Levon Helm Support and The Band Nostalgia site.

I can see only one reason to close down this site and open it again in a different shape. This site has turned to be a Leon (sorry, LeVon) Helm support site. Nothing more and nothing less. It's alright for the most of you but IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!
Just a humble opinion from someone who visited HOLMENKOLLEN before webmaster was born.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Keep On Chooglin'

Thanks guys for the positive feedback.

I should clarify that when I said that “We” had a quick bite to eat before the show, I was talking about Ahron and myself. Re-reading my post, it looked like it could have been half of LHS at dinner with me at dinner although that was not the case. Of course I’d be happy to break bread with any of them, but I’m sure they had more important things to take care of 1 hour before show-time. For any future shows at the Beacon, folks should keep Josie’s in mind. I also ate there 2 years ago before a Beacon show. Good food & service with a lot of organic choices, and fairly reasonable prices for that neighborhood. Along with my meal, I had a great bottle of St. Peters Organic English Ale. One of the best new-to-me brews that I’ve sampled in quite a while. Beer lovers should check out the link above to the brewery. I haven’t been able to find it locally in CT yet, but I’m looking.

Peter M, thanks for sharing your thoughts from the show that you saw the next night. That Art Barron is pretty wild on trombone…..he can really work the plunger. He played at one of the Rambles that I went to in December 2007. Fits in perfectly on ‘Got Me A Woman’ when Lee hits the line about “blowing on the slide trombone.”

As Charlie, Joan and others have noted, the parking in NYC can be out of control. Most of the time I take Metro North (commuter train) out of New Haven, CT if I’m going into the city during a workday. But it can be a chore later at night trying to find a train that fits the schedule when the trains don’t run as often. Plus by the time you add up the increased ticket prices on the train compared to a few years ago, hard to find parking at the train station, and cab fare or subway once in the city, the price is almost the same as driving in. If I have business in midtown, it’s almost always the train. But if it’s for a show on the upper West side, or the Lower East side, where free parking can sometimes be found, I usually drive. If I had a train connection closer to my house, I would take it all the time.

The other week there was some discussion about which bonus tracks might have fit in on ‘Music From Big Pink’. While I wouldn’t replace any of the original tracks, I do feel that ‘Katie’s Been Gone’ could have fit in well.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

He


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Empty Now's post where he/she mentioned Salman Rushdie

I don't feel the same way with you about him. I happened to listen to Mr. Rushdie in a "seminarium publicum" organized by The Nobel Pize Committee the last year. I got this unpleasant feeling: I would not buy a used car from this man.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter M, Amtrak over car travel, is not a wimp-out, look at it as a smaller carbon hoof print. Take one for the turtles!


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the Turtle Pond

Subject: hey Todd

I just read Todd's description of The Beacon show March 5th. I attended the March 6th one and had many of the same feelings he had. I was wary of the NYC parking thing, as I usually only drive to Manhattan from Phila on Sunday nights for zydeco at Connolly's, and I compete for free parking then (all meters are free on Sundays). So, I wimped out and took Amtrak. My first LHS greeters on the street a few blocks from The Beacon were Fran & Perry from Helmland Security who were headed to Chinatown for a bite to eat. I passed on joining them because great music and digestion don't mix for me. I have to eat hours before a gig or my stomach can't handle food and music excitement at the same time (unless the band sucks...). Outside the venue I met Butch & Barrie, who introduced me to the great Sid McGinnis, who was there to see the show. We had a fine time, then went in for the main event and found that all our seats were in the same neighborhood as Todd's was Thurs. The BEST seats in the house, in my opinion. I go to 4-5 Rambles a year, and a few road shows, and I agree with you about how strong Lee's voice was, and what a crackling night it was musically. I absolutely love Brian's contribution to the LHS sound, and he sure meshed with Donald Fagen's playing beautifully. The horns knocked me out, as usual, and I was SO hoping A Train Robbery would feature the Big Bass Drum and gravelfilledwaterjug-a-ma-jig too. No disappointment here! How novel, how appropriate. The ladies' voices were so pretty on all their various contributions: Catherine, Amy, Phoebe, Teresa. I missed the introduction of the dreadlocked cat playing blues guitar, but within moments, I recognized that it was the great Joe Louis Walker. Not only that, but I got to meet him afterwards and tell him what a knockout/surprise/treat it was! Al La Glory had me teary eyed, it was so beautiful. There were times that felt like it was "Thank You, Jimmy V. night", and God Don't Never was one of those moments. We didn't get Tears of Rage, or King Harvest that night, but it was a stellar 3 hour show. I had told Butch that I was gonna skip the show at The Electric Factory March 28th, but I have a friend that won't travel 120 miles to NYC or 200 miles to Woodstock, so I relented, to bring him in to the fold. In Philadelphia we got a moving rendition of King Harvest and a slightly different mix of musicians. Clark Gayton and Howard Johnson didn't make it that night, but Art Barron played beautifully on several horns.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Ringo, Paul and Bud

LINK: McCartney and Starr together again.

NORTHERN BOY: You will find Norm a real gent and fun to be with. I would consider myself lucky to meet him in person. You're gonna love him Have fun and tell us all about it.

MIKE: Martin Luther King,Jr. was a great guy. If only he could have lived to see his "I have a dream" come true.

EMPTY NOW: I happen to like Celine Dion. She has a beautiful voice. I have a vid with her singing "God Bless America" and it's wonderful. Her rendition of "My Heart Will Go On" is also very nice.

TODD: Well done on your description of LEVON's gig. With all that good music would make anyone feel good.

Here's a bit of a follow up to Charlie's post on Bud Shank.

TUCSON, Ariz. - Clifford "Bud" Shank, a flutist and alto saxophonist who worked with such famous acts as the Mamas and the Papas, has died. He was 82. Shank died Thursday of pulmonary failure at his home in Tucson, according to his website and JazzTimes magazine. A native of Dayton, Ohio, Shank worked with saxophonist Charlie Barnet in North Carolina before moving to California in the 1940s. There, he played with trumpeter Shorty Rogers and then pianist Stan Kenton. Shank was one of the first jazz musicians to explore Brazilian music, and recorded a number of albums for World Pacific, a world music label, from the 1950s to the 1970s, according to JazzTimes. During his career, Shank worked with Sergio Mendes and the Mamas and the Papas. His flute work is heard in the latter's song, "California Dreamin'."

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Bud Shank...and Carpe What???

Though he may have been best known for the fine flute solos in two huge hits of the 1960s--"California Dreamin'" by the Mamas and the Papas, and "Windy" by The Association--Bud Shank was also known as a great alto sax player who helped introduce Brazilian music and "cool jazz" to Amercan audiences. He died on Thursday at his home in Arizona.

I liked that short interview with the webmaster and got a chuckle out of his signoff phrase (which turns out to be a Texas-based musical act as well as a great joke).


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Posted by:

Rick D

Location: California
Web: My link

Subject: Jan Interviewed on bestofclassicrock.com

I posted an interview of your awesome 'webmaster' Jan on my blog at the link. Please come by, read and share the love by leaving some nice COMMENTS for Jan!


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: And thanks to all

for the song suggestions(upbeat musically/depressing lyrically). Those are some good examples!


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Northern Boy

Wish Westcoaster luck for me! I wish I could make it.....


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Posted by:

Steve

Empty, as regards to what Sea Lion could do to be accepted by band fans, well this Band would say, avoid recording Band songs. If she wants to sing them in the shower, go for it, but I don't see much that Sea Lion could bring to a Band song.

Montreal Canadiens fans are living in fear of the rumoured purchased of " la Sainte Flanelle" by, Celine and Rene INC. There'd be no way to keep her from singing the National Anthem at the 40 homes games of the Canadiens.

Lars, I knew you were just confused by the posts and so didn't take your objections to heart. I've never thought of Pat as a shrinking violet and if he'd found fault,if he was offended, he'd have responded if he thought that was appropriate. Maybe he will, we'll see.

As far as my Grand Marnier and oranges suggestion somehow being a comment about Richard that was too much of a stretch to get upset about. I've been posting here for 5 years or so and have NEVER, EVER, made an comment about Richard, Rick, Levon or Garth that could in any way be construed as being negative, and won't, you can take that to the bank. As far as J2R's goes, I always need a rather large target to aim at when I launch a little derision and he fits the bill. But even there I keep it to fairly trivial matters; his singing, pink scarf, hand trilling and over-sized ego. Nothing significant.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: beyond Hope, BC.

Subject: North Meets Westie

In a few hours I'm off to meet my first GBer in the flesh, namely Norm "Westcoaster" Jones. (I wonder if he's even more curmudgeonly in real life ?). I'm not sure if Norm wille National Anthem at the 40 homes games of the Canadiens.

Lars, I knew you were just confused by the posts and so didn't take your objections to heart. I've never thought of Pat as a shrinking violet and if he'd found fault,if he was offended, he'd have responded if he thought that was appropriate. Maybe he will, we'll see.

As far as my Grand Marnier and oranges suggestion somehow being a comment about Richard that was too much of a stretch to get upset about. I've been posting here for 5 years or so and have NEVER, EVER, made an comment about Richard, Rick, Levon or Garth that could in any way be construed as being negative, and won't, you can take that to the bank. As far as J2R's goes, I always need a rather large target to aim at when I launch a little derision and he fits the bill. But even there I keep it to fairly trivial matters; his singing, pink scarf, hand trilling and over-sized ego. Nothing significant.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: beyond Hope, BC.

Subject: North Meets Westie

In a few hours I'm off to meet my first GBer in the flesh, namely Norm "Westcoaster" Jones. (I wonder if he's even more curmudgeonly in real life ?). I'm not sure if Norm will greet me with a big bear hug or a punch to the head, but hey, I'm good with either. Anyway, it sounds like the Norm Jones Band ("The Westcoasters" ?) will be the top band in a music-filled afternoon and evening. NB


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Todd/ Empty/ Jan H

Todd; Thanks for a great review.Isn't NYC parking absurd. My brother lives in Trump Tower (5th & 56th) No Street parking there and I can't walk very far, so we park in a garage on Madison and 56th $48.00 for 3-4 hours. Not much I can do about it.

Empty; About Celine, that clip pretty well sums up what I don't like about her. The "studied" moves, the pretentiousness. She behaves as if she is constantly watching herself in a mirror. But I enjoyed JJ Goldman.

Jan H: Nice piece about you and the Website. Well deserved recognition. As always, Thanks for this place.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Todd's Beacon Review...and NYC Parking...and Baseball

It is indeed good to see Todd back here. That review was the best concert review I've read by anyone in a long time. I could relate to the part about the free street parking, but didn't know NYC parking had hit the $50 mark yet. When I moved to London Terrace in the Chelsea neighborhood of Manhattan in late 1980, it cost a bit over a hundred bucks a month for residents to park in the building (I still sold the car after a few months of that). Anyway, that's one more reason to live down here in the sticks.

Yes, it is good to have baseball back even if it is corrupt and overpriced. A friend sold me some cheap tickets for a couple of Washington Nationals games, so I'll go for the communal experience but it's not like the days when I could catch Cal Ripken at what is still the best ballpark, Oriole Park at Camden Yards. I guess I'll never see another game in NYC again after reading about THOSE prices in the two new ballparks there...


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods of NY

Subject: It's good to have baseball back

I didn't know today was Opening Day, Steve. The season used to start in Cincinnati during the week, but I guess starting it on a Sunday generates more cash flow...so it makes sense, financially. I remember pitching in cold weather back in high school and it's tough for the ball players to play in cold temps. I hope the weather is good, for everybody's sake.

Steve, let me make something clear: I'm not angry with you. I didn't like your post. As a parent, I'm sure you can identify with the idea of being disappointed in someone's ACTIONS, but not actually being at odds with a PERSON. I don't have any negative feelings about you. I am a bit perplexed about something you said this morning about copywriting of The Band's songs. I have NEVER had any opinion about the feud (or "fued) because I don't feel that it's any of my business. In all the years I've posted in this GB, I have never taken sides in this matter. Granted, I have lampooned the whole concept of bearing grudges over long periods of time, but Robbie is one of the five Band members who gave me my favorite music. I like all of the guys in The Band--that's why I visit this site.

Hope things are going well for you on the farm.

PAT- In response to your question about trees, I have a bad shoulder and I've been sleeping indoors, which feels pretty weird. So far, I have one doctor who says my shoulder needs surgery. I'm looking for a second opinion. Just e-mail me and tell me I don't need it, that's a second opinion. BTW, I found a "misplaced" photo (daguerreotype?) of Pelham when he was a boy; he looks like he's about 12 or 13. That would make the picture circa 1850. I sent a copy to his family and I noticed that some woman from Virginia has taken credit for the discovery. I don't really care. The old lady I got it from has passed away, so there's no harm done.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Happy birthday etc

Mike, my mind is boggled by the concept of wishing someone happy birthday when they died 26 years ago. It's not "Happy 94th birthday" to Muddy Waters, because he fell so many years short of it. The living, fine. But when people are dead, don't you say "In memoriam. Muddy Waters, who was born 94 years ago today." Or am I being pedantic? I'm always glad to be reminded of the gifts Muddy Waters gave us in his lifetime, and to spare him a thought on a significant day, but I just find "Happy birthday" weird.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Remembering Dr. King this wkd...

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. left us 41-yrs ago yesterday.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Hey It's Opening Day

Lars, in the spirit of opening day I'll make my response positive and baseball friendly.

Your swing on my response to Pat; STRIKE ONE

Somehow involving Richard in my orange \Gand Marnier receipt; STRIKE TWO

Now,I'm going to throw you the, Bill" Spaceman" Lee, rainbow. You know it's coming so you should be able to take this one downtown.

The Band songs that are credited only to J2Rs had no creditable contribution from any other members of The Band, otherwise their names would be on them as well.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

I'm off to change 8 tires myself (I'll take me time).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bap Kennedy

A note for Bap Kennedy fans here … I know there were a couple. The long unavailable “Domestic Blues” is available from 1981-ltd.co.uk mail order. I got my copy yesterday and they’re all signed too. I had it as a “wanted” item on amazon for three years without ever finding one, and I saw a couple of copies go at £20 plus. This was £9.

Though I had a few tracks on the “Best of …” compilation, Long time A Comin’, I had never looked at the credits in detail. As well as being produced by Steve Earle, it features Peter Rowan and Larry Atamanuik from Seatrain.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Daniël Loheus: Boggel in't rad

Dutch blues with great face expression. (Boggel in't rad means This wheel's on fire).


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: ava

Hi!


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Joan

I had in mind the following anecdote the first days I started to post in The GB
By the early 70s, hitch-hiking in Wallonie, I was taken by a brave man wearing Loden [maybe he’s lurking here today] in his car, who introduced himself as Canadian, I knew nothing about CA except Rock. Instinctively and full of enthusiasm I shouted “I am a huge fan of Canadian music, Neil Young, Robbie Robertson, Veronique Sanson,…” wishing to stimulate his ego. Unexpectedly as the face of the dude turned almost angry, he diplomatically enlightened me “nous avons aussi d’ecxellent chaanteurs, Gille Vignault, Fabienne Thibault, y’a auussi Charlebois”
I started to understand that I vaguely felt that I must have done one of those unconscious mistakes which really hurt the other.
By the 70s as in the 00s, in real life as in The Band GB, after such situations in general I don’t try the least effort to mend my error or to justify me, so the guy just continued to drive, and me his hitch-hiker guest watching the countryside without exchanging a word for 50kms more

Joan : Thanks for the echo. What should Céline do or sing to be accepted by The Band people. I invite you for the linked song, see the expression of the French people when they say “full of life”…. ^*|*^


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Posted by:

ava

Location: USA
Web: My link

Subject: ava

Hi!


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Hey Todd!

Good to 'see' you!


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Levon Beacon Gig From March 5th, 2009

Hi guys. Here's my delayed reaction to Levon's Beacon gig from last month. I had a great time, but life's been jam packed since then, and I'm just getting around to getting some words down.

The Beacon show Thursday night March 5th was a lot of fun. Well… Levon's barn is beyond compare, but it's great to see him in a big room once in a while. I was a little stressed driving down after work that day, and thought I was running late, and it seemed like traffic was heavier than it should have been, and I had no idea where I was going to park. I wanted to avoid parking in any of the garages right around the Beacon, as the prices were out of control the last time that I parked there…even for Manhattan. In this economy, I can’t stomach the idea of paying $50-$60 to park my car for a few hours. So once I finally got off of the West Side Highway at 79th street, I took a quick right on Riverside Drive, then a left on 76th street and found a free spot on the street on the first try! It's been a while since I've had that kind of luck parking in the city. Usually I have to circle the blocks a bunch of times. There's no better rush than a free parking spot in NYC close to your destination…especially after a 120-mile drive in heavy traffic. It was a good sign.

I walked the two blocks to the Beacon, and happened to run into Tony, Barbara & Dane from LHS standing out in front of the theater and said a quick hello to them. Thanks guys for always making making the folks feel welcome no matter how large the venue……then I ran into my friend Ahron Foster (the photographer who shot the Dirt Farmer CD cover, and who was also photographing both of the Beacon shows this year). We grabbed a quick bite to eat at Josie’s around the corner from the theater, and had chance to catch up before the show.

By the way, the restoration that they've done on the Beacon is very nice..it's really beautiful….I can't believe that they let people take drinks in there. I think this was only the third concert since the renovation.

Levon's voice was the strongest and clearest that I've heard it in a while, and the night was just filled with one great performance after another. I had a fantastic seat….Orchestra center - Row D on Levon's side of the stage.

Donald Fagen sat in the entire night…mostly on piano while Brian played the Hammond. Brian played piano on a couple of things. 'Rag Mama Rag' and 'The Weight'. Donald played melodica, including a cool solo on 'The Weight' when Brian played piano. Brian also played a lot of accordion. He was a busy man. Phoebe Snow got a very warm welcome, and did really smooth version of 'Save the Last Dance for Me' and a fun ‘Baby Workout’ with some soulful honkin’ by Jay Collins. Levon was smiling the entire time she was singing. Great horns the entire night! Clark on Trombone & Tuba, Steve Bernstein on trumpet, Erik Lawrence & Jay on Saxes, and Jerry Vivino joined them on sax for the last two songs. Amy was wonderful, and took her turn in the spotlight singing a powerful version of ‘Everybody Loves a Winner’. Also fun to watch her smacking the big bass drum during ‘A Train Robbery’. Joe Louis Walker played a few tunes doing his blues thang on guitar and singing. Solid.

The entire band was fantastic all night, but Jimmy V. and Mike Merritt played with a lot of heart. I believe that it was one of their last big shows with Levon before heading out to the West coast. 'No Tears of Rage' on Thursday as far as I can remember, but Jimmy V. sang the most moving version of 'It Makes No Difference' that I've heard since hearing Rick sing it in the 90's. Completing the experience was an UNREAL performance on guitar by Jimmy Weider. Eirk’s sax solo on IMND was pretty special too…Amazing! They also did 'Remedy' with Jimmy W. on guitar. Levon looked like he was having a blast. Some groups are lucky to have one great guitarist. For a chunk of that night at the Beacon, we had Larry Campbell, Jimmy Vivino, and Jimmy Weider on stage together. Can't complain about that!

After the show I said a quick hello to Amy Helm and Tony Leone, then headed back to 76th street to pull my car out of the sizeable slush pile that I had parked it in. In all my excitement earlier about my great parking space, I hadn't noticed how much snow was still left over in some places from Monday's storm. Got out, and then got home lickety-split with no traffic problems and it only took me 30 days to process the experience and try to come up with words to explain it. These shows somehow get better and better, and I always leave thinking that I’ve just seen one of the best shows of my life.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: Just to let you know how we here in Kitchener cared for Mel Brown. [A follow-up to my last post on Mr. Brown].

Hope there are a few of you out there that care too.

Seeya soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: the Woods of NY

Subject: What ever happened to Pump?

STEVE- I don't believe that you intentionally try to write offensive posts. I could be wrong. Your last post was both patronizing to Pat and disrespectful to the memory of Richard. While you never mentioned Richard by name, it's obvious from reading back that the Grand Marnier reference was directed at his choice of "booze."

Richard had his demons and two of the worst were drugs and alcohol. He had to overcome his heroin addiction, and he drank too many bottles of Grand Marnier. That last post encapsulated all of his demons and they sit inside your orange. He also had a way that he could sing through his pain and really touch people. Why can't we talk about something that was good about him? "Give us something we can believe."


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: ari; peter

I've said this before i think, but my inderstanding is that 'ain't no more (virgil?) cane' is two recordings. Though Levon was not present, he is on the track, and rick's vocals though, sound 'new' as in a song he's trying out ...

I am probably wrong. And i read it as a song which they found their 'voice' on, but then later used asa a warm up. I have no printed evidence for this, but it's a decent hypothesis


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, I'm monogamous when it comes to band sites. Even with the temptations offered by the internet to be recklessly polygamous, I refrain. Going to the BB site isn't an option, that's why I tried to put the GB's late 70's expert on the case.

As far as you finding my take on history curious or out of character, I referred to dissecting and interpreting the bible which is hardly an historical document. A document from history but hardly the other way around.

Now to more important matters. There's a proper way to have your Grand Marnier and eat it too. You need a 10cc syringe and a 1 inch,#10 or #12 diameter needle( Grand Marnier is thick stuff). You inject the Grand Marnier into an orange in 2cc shots going around the circumference of the orange in such a manner as to try and get a shot into each individual section of orange. 20cc's is my recommendation so you'll have to load your syringe twice.

If you're a boyscout you'll do this a day before you want to eat it, give it a chance to infuse the entire orange and do several oranges of course.


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Posted by:

Peter V

John D. we've missed you. Very much hope you'll be back to stay.


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Posted by:

Friend0

That ch sound, & the letter chet, is sure a pronunciation problem for most non Jews and many Jews, Brien. The correct spelling would be Tanach, and the letter Chet, is not pronounced like Chet in Chet Atkins.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy 94th b'day to the late, great Muddy Waters!


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

In actuality Steve - many portions of "the book" were written far longer than 2000 years ago and other portions were written less than 2000 years ago. And the whole thing wasn't pieced together in an agreeable fashion (the Jewish faith aside) until about 1500-1600 years ago. And the Tanakh has been translated at the very minimum 3 times.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Bow Thayer & Perfect Trainwreck's "facebook" pg.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Elton John & The Band

Although the money; behind the show seems to come out of Canada and the CTV network, Elvis Costello's new TV show finally debuted here last night; with the first show shot; which was with Elton John; who is also the executive producer. In the U.S. it is on the Sundance Channel.

Elton talked about my favorite album of his; which was Tumbleweed Connection. He uttered the words, I wanted to hear; which was his deep love for The Band and Music From Big Pink. It was this album that gave him the sound he was looking for.

I had heard this story for years; but it was nice to hear him talk about it. Also when you have Allen Toussaint and James Burton in your band.......it don't hurt!


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Posted by:

Friend0

Steve, now you done did it. Pushed and pushed and got old Pat B to start The Feud up all over again.

Wetsocaster Jones! Are you paying attention? Brennan just won't let it die. Gawd Damn it, Norm, ya better turn the wheel over to Snuffy (he ain't drowned yet, has he?) straighten this guy out. Tell him The Band members could care less about what he thinks, and to give it a Gawd Damn rest!


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Posted by:

Mike

Joan: echo your Celine Dion comment. Similar issue w/ a few of the artists on "Endless Hwy."


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: My comment to Mr. Hoiberg's April's Fool joke has been deleted ?

Trying again... I didn't identify myself correctly before. My fault, sorry.
Due to the devilish character of the internet Mr. Hoiberg is practically unable to close down this site because the contributions have been sent by other people, not by himself. They are going to live their life in the internet forever and forever.
BTW Linux: Only one per cent of Western people are using Linux OS as a desktop system (this time I am using a Windows machine, I am ashamed). Furthermore, there are only five miilions Finns in this globe. - By reading this, I hope you are as lucky in poker, too :-)


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: VHI's "Behind The Music"

Passing by with this interesting news. I used to watch this show all the time here in Canada on MMM, [#36C] I have never seen ROBBIE's, but know he did one.

VH1 “Behind The Music” Returns

VH1 is resuscitating Behind the Music.

The celebreality network has ordered ten new episodes of its former signature series, which will return to the air later this year, bringing back the iconic documentary program that ran on VH1 for seven years starting in 1997.

Billboard charttoppers Lil Wayne and Scott Weiland have already signed on to participate on the revamped series.

The show’s format looks into the early lives of modern day music stars, focusing on the rise to fame, as well as their professional and personal struggles. Friends and family are interviewed in the show to give greater insight. VH1 will update the riginal format for 2009, but not much, producers say.

“It felt like the time is right,” says Jeff Olde, VH1 executive vice president original programing. “There’s all sorts of new artists on the scene who have emerged and have these great stories. And there’s other artists that we always wanted to do the first time around.”

The show ran regular shows from 1997 to 2002, then cut broadcasting back until it was completely scrapped in 2006.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Empty/ Celine Dion

Thanks for the link, but I still don't like Celine. Oh well..


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, perhaps if Bob had gone to a BB King website he would have found the answer. Not that asking the question here was wrong.

It sure is odd that that old argument about the impossibility of knowing history would come from you. But your reference to the Bible is certainly valid. I just think if an interested party is careful and takes a bit of time, the dates of the Band's first two multiple night stands are pretty easy to find. Same with the songwriting.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Céline aka Dion Driftwood

spell Dion in original french in the title above, Translation, passages in the linked article

- Alain de Repentigny (La Presse)
“The song in question, Acadian Driftwood, was written for The Band by Robbie Robertson, whose Zachary is a huge. In fact, it is at first The Weight, a much more known song of The Band, that he wanted to cover. He submitted both to Céline Dion and René Angélil and the singer chose Acadian Driftwood.”

From an alternate source of the same author
“Once the recording ended, Céline insisted with director Larry Klein to sing Acadian Driftwood twice again, just for the pleasure, before going in vacation for one and a half year.”

– Zachary Richard
" It’s clear that a duet with Céline Dion will draw the attention of the American public, but if it was just a question of business profit, that would not have worked neither for nor her. I didn’t feel the need to sing in duet with Mariah Carey or Alison Krauss, it would have been too artificial. But the opportunity appeared and, as most of the time I acted without thinking, and the result, in my sense, is very satisfactory. This song tells about the Grand Dérangement, Céline is French-speaking, and I wanted to tell this story to the Americans who ignore it. Not to claim an ethnic identity, but because it talks about courage and about condolence and because that allows us, Céline and me, to go beyond the popular song to tell a story so true today as in 1755"

Empty Now:
Zachary Richard is Cajun, waiting impatiently, this new with a chorus (I presume) of Celine Dion will be like removing a disguise on a never equated great song, I feel just satisfactory the American public enfin discover it

Thank You Zachary, Thank You Céline, Thank you René


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Thanks Steve. Montrealers is the accepted name of residents here as is Montrealais in French. Also good of you to question Bill re: does Toronto still have a hockey team? Love that Munson but it's time for him to discard his Eddie Shack lunch box and accept the truth. Mud...... really Bill. Do you even remembr what playoffs are?


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Posted by:

Steve

Hey where were all you archeologists last week when Bob was struggling to come up with the year for that BB King show at the Fillmore West in either 67, 68 or 69?

Trying to come to an agreement or find evidence of something that happened within our life time, only a couple of decades ago, can be so contentious it makes you wonder why people bother dissecting and interpreting a book written 2000 years ago, a couple of hundred years after the occasion, translated twice and without the aid of spell-check . In another 2k "Life Of Brian" may be given serious treatment.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Peter, is that including the Dylan tracks? Also, while I understand Ain't No More Cane is where they discovered the vocal blend, I am pretty sure it was recorded in 75 for the album. If I had to pick a song to replace one of the original 11 songs, I think I'd say Ruben Remus deserves it. I think it'd need a little reworking and a real studio recording, but it would have fit nicely in the mix and I think we'd all get used to it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Orange Juice Blues

I like Orange Juice Blues too, but thinking about it, there's not a single track on Music From Big Pink I'd replace it with. It's got a nice rolling feel, but like most "bonus track material" was missing in the first place for a good reason. The other eleven tracks were all better. My opinion hasn't changed since the official Basement tapes release in 1975, if you had room to add one track to Big Pink, it would be Ain't No More Cane. As Levon said in his autobiography, that's the track where they first established their vocal blend. I don't think Orange Juice Blues is a contender.


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Posted by:

Pat B

The original tickets state that the boys played Winterland April 17-19, a Thursday through Saturday stand.

Lars, you staying out of trees?


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Posted by:

Pat B

The Band never played Fillmore West. Bill Graham used to rent Winterland for bigger shows (Fillmore West--which Graham moved to after the Fillmore Auditorium--was relatively small). It was at Winterland that the Band's first show happened.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: The first "The Band" live concert

To quote Levon's book THIS WHEEL'S ON FIRE, page 189.....

"...to San Francisco, where Bill Graham had scheduled three nights of performances. At 20K for the weekend, they were the first paid concerts we'd given in three or four years, and would mark the public concert debut of The Band. We were scared shitless."

p.190, ibid.

"We pulled into San Francisco, looking about half past dead, on Tues April 15."

p. 194, ibid.

"A couple of weeks later we played four sold-out shows at the Fillmore East..."


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Posted by:

Tom

Web: My link

Subject: First gig

The Band played at the Fillmore West first.......they were a coming attraction in the Steppenwolf March playbill...I went to the Fillmore East gigs.......in May...see the playbill for it on the link.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: Bob Dylan

Happy Birthday, dear Richard. Bet you're having a great time up there w/ so many musicians that have gone too soon. May you all RIP.

Good April's Fool joke,JAN, you managed to get us again this year.

Thanx you guys for all the thingys on my Fave ROBBIE. Looking for more of the same, as well as of THE BAND. You guys are wonderful.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Pat B

Mike, they actually played Fillmore East on May 9 and 10 of 1969, about a month after their infamous debut. That handbill lists the Fillmore shows that cover 3 months or so.


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Posted by:

Steve

JQ, un Montrealais in french, I don't know of an English equivalent, Montrealer, possibly. Landmark lives there, he probably knows better than me.

Bill, is there still an NHL team in Toronto?


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "The Band" live 40 yrs later.

Although April 10, 1969 @ Winterland in San Fran, CA is more recognizable as The Band's first legit live performance as The Band, it did perform w/ Steppenwolf & numerous others @ NY's Fillmore East March 28, 1969.


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Posted by:

Mike C

Happy birthday to Richard Manuel, may he rest in peace.

Tonight I'm gonna dig out my vinyl copy of Music From Big Pink, drop the needle on cut one, side two; crank up the volume & let the one voice for all echo (echo) along my hall, in all its snapcracklepop glory.

I may even drink a glass of orange juice too...


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Posted by:

Pat B

David P, ironic indeed given Richard's tastes.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: And with Grand Marnier you get both booze & orange juice.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: 44th anniversary of Dylans "Subterranean Homesick Blues" today.

Great tune about practicality.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" induction wkd.

Jeff Beck is one of the inductees this wkd.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: SK; suicide; Pride

Bill M: rubbing elbows with the aristocracy again, are we? You know the world's bass-ackwards when SK is have, and ON is have-not. I was up in S'toon for a wedding in the middle of March, and not a few of my boomer-aged peers, nearing retirement, were talking about relocating. Well, naturally, I said, the population's up above a million again, the place is getting crowded. Oh no, they said, we still love it here but we can't . . . stand . . . another . . . friggin' . . . winter.

I think the model for the words-vs.-music disconnect song is still Elton John's very jaunty "I Think I'm Gonna Kill Myself." Honourable Mentions to Richard Thompson's "When I Get to the Border" and - naturally - G. O'Sullivan - "Alone Again (Naturally)."

Speaking of Dame Elton, I'm lookin forward to seeing her on Elvis Costello's new TV show tonite. Mrs. Costello's on Letterman . . . .

Didja see the item about Charley Pride flying to the Great White North to refund the arm & leg some fan had paid for concert tickets? See [My link].


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Posted by:

Bill M

JQ: Mud, if you mean the pro hockey players.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Positootly. "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they get up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day."


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Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, sunshine=booze? Sinatrian.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Montreal-er-ian?

Steve - What is somebody from Montreal called?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: OJB

Pat B: Compare "A day without orange juice is a day without sunshine" with "A day with just orange juice is a day without booze." How blue can you get?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Has anyone noticed that Orange Juice Blues has nothing about drinking orange juice in it?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Robbie Robertson - Me, Me, Me same same as OJ, OJ

From Musician Magazine 1987 by Bill Flannegin:

Robertson the songwriter has walked a very fine line, a line almost unique in rock. He writes in the voices of characters - the Confederate Virgil Cane, the migrant Cajun in "Arcadian Driftwood," the Indian draftee in "Hell's Half Acre." But he writes these characters with an almost confessional directness. Now this was common in pre-rock 'n' roll songwriting, but rock has tended toward either character writing in extremis or the appearance of autobiography. Most rock 'n' roll character writing is "Midnight Rambler" or "Money For Nothing," Randy Newman's bigot or Lou Reed's rapist. Created characters tend to be cartoons. The other style, the first-person I love you/ I hate you/ I can't get no satisfaction style used by everybody from the Beatles to the Sex Pistols, maintains at least the illusion of being autobiographical, of being a true emotional statement. Robbie Robertson is the rare rock songwriter who gives obviously fictional characters as much compassion as other songwriters lavish on "I."

"I don't feel like taking the part of characters to outrage, " he says. "That's a bit of...a trickery to me. This has to be a true American mythology, as opposed to just whatever I could think of. Does it break my heart, does it give me chills, does it conjure up some kind of spell in me that I'll never get over? That is more interesting to me than a song on behalf of a bigot. I have nothing against that - but it doesn't have a valid place in this picture.

"And I was embarrassed by the self-indulgence of 'me me me.' 'Here's a little song about me.' If I started out a song that way it'd make me puke all over the piano." He is quiet for a minute. Then he says, "Everything you write is personal, y'know? You maybe try to disguise or hide what's real personal about it. What is 'Out Of The Blue' if it's not personal? Or 'It Makes No Difference'?" Yet


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Born down in a dead man's town...

Many, including Ronald Reagan, never got past the chorus to Bruce Springsteen's "Born In The U.S.A." to realize that the song was not an celebratory, patriotic anthem.

Randy Newman is also misinterpreted by many who don't see the irony, sarcasm and self-parody in many of his songs. By singing from the perspective of a foolish and often despictable character, whether it be a racist or stalker/rapist, with carefully orchestrated, upbeat arrangements, he casts the human condition in a different light. His "Suzanne" is quite the opposite of Leonard Cohen's:

"I saw your name, baby
In a telephone booth
And it told all about you, mama
Boy, I hope it was the truth
I took down your number
Looked up your address Sue
And I was hopin' that maybe
You could love me too..."


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

A visit to the nearest Sunrise Records yielded, along with the Buddha Bar VI comp, a pair of more pertinent CDs for 12 bucks - Garth and Maud "Live at the Wolf" and a budget comp with a title like "History of American Music: Los Angeles Blues". The LA stuff is mostly from Modern and Specialty from the late '40 and early '50s - Roy Milton, Joe Liggins, Jimmy Liggins, TBone Walker, Percy Mayfield, et many al. For the first time I got to hear Ray Charles' "Mess Around", with a piano intro that Crowbar borrowed for the "Murder In The First Degree". (I'd known only Jools Holland's - Band connection - version from an IRS comp.) And while I'd heard Amos Garrett sing Mayfield's "Please Send Me Someone To Love" on many occasions since the mid '70s, I'd never noticed, until hearing the original, that Fred Neil borrowed one of the key lines, "Peace won't enter until war is done", along with the music to go with it, for one of the songs on his "Everybody's Talking" (aka "The Dolphins") LP.

sadavid: I was at a dinner last night where one of the speakers was the exceptionally funny premier of Saskatchewan, who clearly has a future in stand-up. At one point he made brief mention of the big jail break and what his government did about it. Later on he was extolling the success of the province, noting that for the first time in decades the population was actually growing, and that there was a net inflow from every other province but one - Manitoba. "Here's why: those escaped convicts I mentioned earlier, well, it turns out that those people want to go home too."


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter do you think J2Rs might have heard the song before the official release. AHHHHH, YA BABY YAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Kristie, upbeat, celebratory, and confessional all at the same time, " I Shot The Sheriff". Fight the power.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Blues For Breakfast

Peter V: A cover of "Orange Juice Blues" by Mama Cass was included on her 1968 album "Dream A Little Dream" under the alternate title "Blues For Breakfast". This fine album was produced by John Simon.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Smile before jumping...........

A few songs that that fit into that category of not being as happy as the music might suggest………”Out of the Blue” – The Band, “Rockin in the Free World” – Neil Young……”Excitable Boy” – Warren Zevon………”Every Breath you Take” – The Police.....just about anything by Nirvana!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Kristie: That certainly was a nice clip that Kevin J posted. The Slim Chance album with "The Poacher" on it is certainly well worth hunting down. I could be mistaken, but I think Gallagher and Lyle had something to do with that group, as well as the worthy McGuiness Flint - from the same school of early '70s elfin British folkish rock.


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Posted by:

Peter V

At the time of Stage Fright (which is what Robbie was thinking back to when asked) Orange Juice Blues had never been officially released … and wouldn't be for another four years.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Kevin/Personal albums

Kevin-Wow! Thanks. It is good to put a face to a song you have been hearing on the radio forever. Although, I am starting to wonder if it was another version I heard on the radio, as the link version seems a bit different...but songs can when played live, I guess.

As for personal albums in the seventies, it doesn't get much more personal than Joni Mitchel's "Blue." Which brings me to a question my friend asked me a bit back:"how many songs can you think of, that sound happy/upbeat musically, but have depressing, and/or super confessional lyrics?" I thought of "all I want" on "Blue" right away. And A few more I can't remember..."hey ya" by outcast....


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Juice

"Orange juice blues" is one of my favorite songs on "The basement tapes," but I agree it is probably more of a coincidence. It would be in poor taste to insult Richard, and I doubt Robbie would do it.

There is also a line about juice in "odds and ends," which is a Dylan song, but on the same album:"Just you comin' and spillin' juice all over me."


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Johny Copeland

Jeff: Thank you. Great to see something on Johnny Copeland...one of my favorites.... Kristie: Link above for you. Much much to discover with Ronnie Lane.....Enjoy


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Addicted to Vinyl" blog - great site.

Recent article about the "Crawdaddy" founder in financial trouble due to medical bills after suffering a '95 motorcycle crash. "Crawdaddy" has featured "The Band" & its memberson many an occassion. Anarticle by Carol Caffin was relatively recently featured.


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Posted by:

Friend0

A quick and not well thought out response to the RR quote Ari posted. In my quick consideration, I:ll say unless soemone stokes them with an "assignment", or reason to write in another manner, songwriters tend to write about what is important to them at the time. Or in a manner that is important to them at the time. Of course, people get ideas, and change things , in the middle of things too. But the one thing that cannot be denied, is the general way it goes. You write about what or in a way (or both) that is or was somehow important to you, one way or the other.

So, this choice of experession, "overwhelmed the music", well, is theatrics and dramatics. They go hand in hand, and it';s what he wanted to write about. Before, the other manner was more important to him. Before, his, all of theirs, life and lives were different., What they were living, was exposing them to the things getting written about. Life and lives were changing. So were the songs.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Personal Songs

Let's not overlook the obvious -- In the framework of The Band, Robbie, for the most part, was writing songs for others to sing. Unlike the James Taylors & Jackson Brownes of that era of singer/songwriters, who took a more personal, revelatory path, Robbie chose to craft his songs through a different narrative approach. As he explained in a 1998 interview in MIX magazine:

[Blair Jackson] "Isn't it fair to say that even in your days with The Band you tended to not write autobiographically, but were more interested in presenting snapshots of the soul through storytelling?

[Robbie] "That's true, and because of the ensemble nature of The Band, I was trying to write songs that represented OUR sound and not just , 'Here's another little song about ME. [Laughs]"

Perhaps Robbie's "orange juice" reference in the other interview was inadvertent, rather than a putdown of Richard's songwritng. On the other hand, over the years, Robbie has never been shy about cutting down the work of other artists. Yet, every year he's there in his tuxedo at the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame ceremonies.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Ari

Ari, I'm sure you meant no harm. I believe Robbie's comment and the fact that there is a song entitled "Orange Juice Blues" is nothing more than coincidence. He made a casual comment regarding his songwriting perspective at the time. I believe there's nothing more to it than that.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Rock & Rock Guru" site - pretty cool.

Daily updates on many things classic rock & roll.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Not at all, Robbie is my favorite musician of all time, one of my favorite people too, so I wouldn't do that. But it seems pretty clear he is talking about Orange Juice Blues.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Put down schmut down

Ari: you're trying to reading too much between the lines. No doubt, though, that some of the more misguided conspiracy theorists who frequent this place will pick up on this, posting the inevitable "See! see! more proof of the evil Roberston, blah, blah, blah!" until orgasm is achieved.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Rock Peaks" feature 5 "The Band" video clips.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "The Band The Band" tribute band playing Richard Manuel celebration shows this wkd.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Richard Manuel during the "The Third Eyeball" @ the "Kingswood Music Theater" in Toronto June 21, 1984.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day to Richard George Manuel!

Too soon gone.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Jimi Hendrix home recordings for auction.

Including a rendition of Bob Dylan / Richard Manuel "Tears of Rage."


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie-Richard's Orange Juice Blues

In an interview it looks like Robbie puts down Richard's songwriting. Q: It's been said that your songwriting for Stage Fright shifted from the storytelling approach found on the first couple of albums to a more personal, almost autobiographical approach. I wanted to ask you if you agreed with that and what precipitated that change? RR: I didn't think about it that much at the time but when I look at it now, I can see that - to a certain degree – that's true. Back then, there was something that embarrassed me when songwriters wrote these songs about getting up in morning and having a glass of orange juice.It just annoyed me. I much more appreciated the storytelling of songwriting than somebody actually thinking that what they saw while walking down the street was all that interesting. It took me some doing before I felt comfortable with peeking behind that curtain to write about personal things. At the point when we did Stage Fright, what was happening within the band was becoming more personal. There were issues entering into things and they started to kind of overwhelm the music. Stage Fright is kind of an appropriate expression for what was going on with The Band at that time.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Location: This side of hope. Wherever that is.

Subject: Northern buoy

Nice to see you, old chum! If Levon rings for me, you'll point him straight, won't you? ;-)


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Johnny Copeland vid linked above. 1988. The vid gives you an idea of Copeland's killer tone.

A younger Mike Merrit on bass. Johnnie Johnson did shows with Copeland's band in Europe, and NY. That's when Mike met Johnnie. Johnnie later asked Mikr to put a band together for him to do NY gigs with. That eventually led to the line up of Vivino, Womworth & Merrit, who stayed with Johnnie for ever. Some incredible shows.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: Twillingate (Southside)

Subject: April Fools

C'mon Jan. Enough is enough already. Celine doin 'Acadian Driftwood' indeed.

Wasn't around to get in on the Juno debate but, no disrespect to 'Tinderbox', it makes me feel good about living in a country where a banjo playin fool can get national recognition. Or an Ethiopian rapster for that matter.

Anyway we're accepting submissions for our annual 'Blues Night at the Lodge'. Proficiency in blues music not a requisite.

Out around the bay these days we're playing a whole lot of Otis and Aretha and a little bit of Amy Winehouse. Kris K. was in town but I was otherwise engaged. Truth is I haven't played a lot of Kris since about 1974 but I still know the words to about a dozen of his standards. Truth is it's about half my repertoire; Hank Williams accounting for the rest.

Norm I feel bad about your little accident. Hurts worst than if it was to your own flesh doesn't it.

Had an opportunity to fly west and north recently but west only as far as Edmonton. So far all I've seen of BC is Vancouver airport. That has to change. Got up to Norman Wells on the MacKenzie River. Was still minus 25 but like they say, a dry cold.

Truth is I wouldn't know the truth if I stepped in it. Occupational hazard.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: Makes me proud of where I live. Something you all should know about the great Mel Brown.

NORM: Sorry to hear about your boat. Good luck with the music. {Hope you liked my card? Bet you didn't have time to open it].

REV BILLY SOL HARGIS: Now where have I heard that name before? Thanks for the mention. You mean to say I'm not a nice person? WRONG!!

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo



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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Westcoaster/Kevin J

I would be happy to if I wasn't in California! But have a great show, and let me know when the next one is happening. Kevin J-Thank you. That is a great song. I know of Ronnie Lane but am not super familiar with his work. Didn't Ronnie Wood leave The Faces to join the Rolling Stones?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Acadian Driftwood - Ari

Steve.......what all your history lessons could not do....the one and only Celine Dion might just well accomplish.....that is, ruin "Acadian Driftwood" for me. See "What's New" section of this website......Ahh!!!!!!!!!!!

Memo to anyone wandering around the Middle East....if you hear "The Weight" being warbled by a drunken New Yorker at any time of day....it's ok, the world is not coming to an end......even better if you wait a few days he may even get the harmony parts right!!!


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: American Beauty Project '07 live performance release.

The Grateful Dead tribute live performance called American Beauty Project recorded live in MA Nov '07 is available for download or cd purchase. Participants included members of Ollabelle, Catherine Russell, & Larry & Teresa Campbell.


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Posted by:

Peter

Subject: I'm so ashamed

Got suckered, alas. This is not from Peter V.


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Posted by:

David P.

Mark: According to Levon's website, the first Ramble was in January 2004.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Autographs

I think it is pretty obnoxious to get and then sell an autograph. Living in and around New York City, I've come across a fair number of celebs My philosophy is "Leave them alone". If I ever did ask for an autograph it would be for me, not to sell. Oh well... That's the way it is.


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Posted by:

Mark

Location: Bright Sunny CA

Subject: Levon

Link

Quite an interesting item. Does anyone know when the first ramble was?


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Posted by:

Northernbuoy

Subject: Norm

All great choices for the concert ! A guy can't go wrong with all those great Boxcar Willie hits ! NB


Entered at Thu Apr 2 18:27:05 CEST 2009 from (207.81.196.79)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Ready to Rock!

NORTHERN BUUUOY!!! I got back here, got your last e mails. We're leaving here in a couple hours to make the trek. Stop at Lorne's in Campbell River tonight. At Eddy's tomorrow, to finish the last song. Then play some music!

We'll be playing songs like.........

Throw your mother's dog on the fire...

Light 'er up and watch that sucker burn.

Go out to my car, change the oil and all the tires.

And maybe.....A dollar is a dollar and a dime is a dime.

He'd sing another chorus, but 'e dodn't 'ave the toime..

Does your chewing gum loose it's flavour........

KRISTIE! Just get your hot little ass over THERE!

I had the shits of a trip. When I went to take this huge stupid, pile of junk of a barge camp off this other little boat to tow it away for them, they screwed me up.

My tug swung in rough weather, 'cause these guys didn't hold onto the damn thing. It took a roll and hit my tug and smashed the side of my boat up. First mark I've ever had on it all the years I've had it. Now I gotta come out of the water to fix it. I was so mad I coulda chewed this guys ears off right down to his belt buckle!

Well, now I've "vented". I'll go away........play that funky music white boy!


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Posted by:

abby

Location: KY

Ari - That last verse of The Weight always felt like Rick to me.

I'm a Thief and I dig it! I always loved that line blaring from the basement - it felt sexy and made my 11 yr old body wanna moooovvveee.... However I just now realized that the Band may have had a hand in my short career as an 11 yr old petty thief. Wonder if I can sue the Band for mental anguish when the Zayre store detective scared the hell out of me. "The Band did it! The Band did it! I thought being a thief would be cool!!"


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Posted by:

test


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Kristie...Autographs...Joan

I had always thought that autographs were a way for a child to interact with a sports hero or someone of the like due to that child not really being equipped to walk up and strike up a conversation with an adult. The whole experience has been ruined by adults just having to get in on this to for strictly commercial purposes…..teach little Johnny that autographs have value….to hell with the experience of meeting someone…….Funny though that at some point in the 80’s I was an airport with Stevie Ray Vaughn. I watched as he patiently interacted with some fans – one in particular with a speech impediment that took about 15 minutes to get out what he wanted to say. Despite Stevie’s people seeming to want to pull him away from what was going on he was as gracious as any person could be….I had my guitar with me at the time and part of me wanted to have him sign something but I just couldn’t bring myself to ask. He died a short while later and in addition to his extraordinary playing I always remembered that nice bit of humanity I witnessed that day…….

Kristie: "Stone" is a Ronnie Lane song. Rod Stewart oftem described R. Lane as the heart of the band which was true.

Joan: Not able to help on the french video front...perhaps one of our Quebec based members.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Subject: The Weight

Need help with this one. I was gone last night in a bar in Tel Aviv when one of my friends (not really a huge Band fan, mind you) decided we should do the harmony to the end of The Weight. We tried doing the three layered harmony and it hadn't struck me until right then how diffucult it was to do. Obviously it's it's not easy to make great music when lacking sobriety, although some would argue that, but nonetheless I was interested in revisiting the genius behind that harmony. To say the least, to really hit that harmony on the head having 3 capable singers is necessity so I wouldn't try to emulate that sound with my voice anyways. As I looked at the song I wondered if it was Richard and Rick singing the high part of the chorus, I always think of Levon's voice the whole basis of the song, but it's not so for the chorus. It's Richard isn't it? He's the forefront here right? Or is it Rick. The reason I ask is because considering the amount of times I've heard this song (as anybody has on this guestbook it must be well over 100x for each an everyone of you), I never noticed that there is a voice echoing in the background at 1:32 minute mark in the original recording. It sounds like Rick and if you listen closely right after Richard and Levon sing "load for free..." there is a voice that says "load for free." Anyhow I'm rambling again, just though I would put that out there. It reminds me of that slip up in Hey Jude where John says "CHORD!" and then Paul says "ehh fucking hell".


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Posted by:

Calvin

I remember seeing Burrito Deluxe a few years back and getting Garth to Sign of Photo of the Burritos with him in it-something I wanted for myself. There were guys in line with 5-7 things for him to sign, all I could think of was "Ebayers"

Saw Walter Trout last night, Im not a huge Wailing Guitar Fan sort of guy, but jeez can that guy play.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Recent blog article about The Band's "Tombstone" bootlegged album.


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Posted by:

Steve

I've got a starting bid of two bits on that J2Rs pick guard.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Ignatius......

Good to see your post. Please stick around and post more often......Oh and by the way, when you do become the Prime Minister of Canada in about 15 months see what you can do about making this website an "essential service" will ya?? .........If you're not sure what I am talking about - you will in about 15 months.....

Scalping has gone corporate and now so has autograph getting - sad. On the bright side, almost $600 does say something positive for the Band.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Same autograph firm selling Garth Hudson signed pick guard.

This one is going for $500.00.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day Emmylou Harris, Leon Wilkerson & the late great Marvin Gaye.


Entered at Thu Apr 2 14:13:21 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie's "JFK" signing on eBay.

The "New York Autographs" that hit up Robbie @ the "JFK" luggage carousel are asking $599.00 on "eBay" for the autographed pick guard.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Didn't you guys do any April Fools Day jokes yesterday? Cmon guys.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Cheb Hasni

Empty, after reading your link I found a description of modern Rai by Rod Skilbeck which is itself enough to entice me to listen; Traditional melodic structures sandwiched between double percussion of Western drums and darbuka in a quarter-tone scale with denser, faster and more streamlined rhythms: " accented rhythms may be played at the speed of a camel loping somewhere in Jamaica with eastern tunes over a funk or dub backing.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Well, Lars, the way I answered it sure seems like I might have bought it. Mostly I was showing what the ramifications of Platos post meant were it true. A lot different than renting Madison Square Garden and having a benefit.



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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: The Band Website / Steve

Jan : “all three surviving members of The Band have their own official sites”, I believe that the not surviving members merit a tribute website [huh Carol?], and I suggest that the final close down of the Band website should be on a Thanksgiving day…. -)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Steve : now that you miss the half of my posts, I m wondering why am I posting anymore. As a fan of Rushdie, I have to transmit you my favorite passage I ever read from him, in “The Ground Beneath Her Feet”, judge by yourself :

I began to use the workname "Rai" …. Pseudonyms, stage names, worknames: for writers, for actors, for spies, these are useful masks, hiding or altering one's true identity. But when I began to call myself Rai, prince, it felt like removing a disguise, …That was Rai: a boy princeling…. Rai. It also meant desire: a man's personal inclination, the direction he chose to go in; and will, the force of a man's character. All that I liked. I liked that it was a name that travelled easily; everyone could say it, it sounded good on every tongue. And if on occasion I turned into "Hey, Ray" in that mighty democracy of mispronunciation, the United States, then I was not disposed to argue, I just took the plum assignments and left town. And in another part of the world, Rai was music. In the home of this music, alas, religious fanatics have lately started killing the musicians. They think the music is an insult to god, who gave us voices but does not wish us to sing, who gave us free will, rai, but prefers us not to be free. Anyway, now everybody says it: Rai. just the one name, it's easy, it's a style. Most people don't even know my real name. Umeed Merchant, did I mention that? Umeed Merchant, raised in a different universe, a different dimension of time, in a bungalow on Cuffe Parade, Bombay, which burned down long ago. The name Merchant, I should perhaps explain, means "merchant." …

His stylistics is awesome, I once wrongly thought that Rai [or Raj] was the birth name of Freddie Mercury, in fact Mercury was born Farrokh Bulsara. Talking of Rushdie, I remember I read somewhere [Isn’t that Rushdie’s idea?] that the collective Muslim contact prayer, beyond the immediate individual act of worshiping, is at the subliminal level a mass conditioning exercise aiming to develop the capacities of mobilization of a whole nation in preparation for future conquests. In fact whatever is the context, as soon as you ask a group of people to do the same synchronous move altogether, it’s a paramilitary operation [huh Lars ?], whatever is its inspiration nobody can claim that Quran is completely deprived of wisdom
now if you miss the link, I am warned Steve


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Posted by:

Brian Isaksen

Location: Denmark

All music begins and ends with The Band. Where am I now going to get my inspiration to buy new music? That Høiberg is finally packing it in is understandable. But a disaster. Anyway, thanks for a wonderful site!


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Posted by:

Rev Billy Sol Hargis

Location: A higher limb, or plane of life

Subject: This is it. The end.

You can take that paper bag off your head because you are now free from harm. No more worries. No jealousy and hatred. It's after midnight and you are all right. You thought it was going to be painful, didn't you? And that stuff about a light....none of that happened.

First of all, I want anybody who ever killed anybody during your lifetime to step over there to the edge of the cloud. Next, anybody who isn't a true believer....you can go over there too and stand next to Serenity.........Go on. The rest of you seem like nice people-- oh, I almost forgot. Are there any Red Sox fans here by chance? Good (beaming smile)...very good....that many? um um um. You can step straight up to eternity by leaving the cloud over on the far end. Get all lined up. Now step into ETERNITY! (screams of falling Red Sox fans) I love that part.

Now the rest of you will find a straight and narrow path going up the mountain. When you wake up in the morning you'll be in your own beds. Serenity, say you're sorry. Okay, you're forgiven. You can all go home now. Just follow the path. There's an old can over there for those of you who want to leave a tip. Good night.


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Posted by:

Jean-Paul Gauthier

Location: Hamilton Music Awards/Former Agent Garth Hudson
Web: My link

Subject: Good Bye

So sad to see this site go!It has been a wonderful resource and place to hangout and to continue to enjoy The Band. I would love to see this site keep on. Can I help keep this site and address in existence? Jean-Paul


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: to the wonderful Natalie Cole's fight for a kidney donor on the Larry King Show. Some great people in this world. I hope she gets one soon.

JAN: You didn't think we'd believe you, did you? NAH!!!

LARS: Good imagination, and April Fool to you too.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo



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Posted by:

Dave

Location: Indy

Soo sad This website rocked!!!


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Yeah, but he still hasn't said April Fools Day yet... and he usually does... and last time he just gave us the Home page for a day... then shut down... Hey, where is Jan?... Is that him up on the roof of the little pink icon... Nope, that's just a chimney... and that... is just some taco hot sauce on my Mac screen... Nevermind...


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Posted by:

Aristotle (Lars)

Location: The Trees

Subject: psuedo-logic

Jeff-

You bought that? Okay.....

When Robbie was 8 years old his mother and he went down to New Orleans for the mardi gras. They were traveling by car, so on the way back they spent a night in Arkansas. The next morning Robbie woke up early and decided to take a walk until his mom got up. Suddenly he heard someone screamimg for help. A blonde headed boy was drowning in the pond behind the motel. As fast as lightning, Robbie removed his scarf and dove into the water, intent on saving the blonde boy's life. He did. And then they both went their separate ways, although Robbie never understood where all the cattle came from when they rattled out the motel door and turned for Cripple Creek Pond.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Subject: Lurkers

The new names are some of the lurkers - and maybe some GB posters from long ago. I heard from some of them when I was trying to arrange the Ramble get-together. They are usually too shy to post. Glad to have 'em anyway.

JF


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: ?

There are all these new names all of a sudden(well, new to me).


Entered at Thu Apr 2 03:06:23 CEST 2009 from (66.183.107.123)

Posted by:

Denis

Location: Denis

Subject: Denis

Okay, as a master pranker, it quickly dawned on me what is going on here......well done sir.....well done


Entered at Thu Apr 2 03:04:49 CEST 2009 from (66.183.107.123)

Posted by:

Denis

Location: Denis

Subject: Denis

I dunno what to say, what the hell am I going to do every day, shit...............I need you, like a fish needs water, like old people need depends, I build my collection based on your database....I am so fucking lost now...


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hey Plato, if you are telling a true tale, and it is very possible, let me just say that what that might very well mean is as simple as Capitol records not holding the money for a quarter or two. Or at the most, capitol advancing some dough based upon 25 years of a track record. But you might also be trying to insinuate that that was enough to cover everything, which ain't no way. If Robbie did that, it was a gentlemanly thing to do. I believe that could have happened,. But pay the medical bills? Maybe grocery money, utilities. Remember, this is peformance royalties for Band recording sales. Not much songwriting.

Jan made it easy to scope him out this April fool's.Even if you forgot what day it was. What Jan wrote, turning everything over to, the only thing coulda been more obvious was if he wrote "to Capitol Records".


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Jan F

Agreed. The Snoop Dog one did have me going for a bit. I started to wonder if "Dirt farmer" was going to be renamed "Dirtizzle Farmizzle," or something like that.....


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Snoop & The Band

Kristie, Do the three of them have to be participating in the recording session at the same time, or can the recording be done at three (or at least two)different times?

Not as good as last year, but pretty funny! It's probably not easy coming up with those . . .

Jan F.


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Posted by:

Ignatius

Location: Pac NW Foolsville, USA

Subject: Hey . . . . HEY . . .

So READ the calendar, Ignatius.

So . . . so . . . I was kiddin' too!!!

I


Entered at Thu Apr 2 02:07:17 CEST 2009 from sbuxhost204.starbucks.com (199.233.178.253)

Posted by:

Ignatius

Location: Pac NW US

Subject: Good bye and thanks

This has been a wonderful place to share my love for this music, these guys.

You have all been contentious, but always caring, funny and clever. Real folks.

Remind you of anybody?

See you all around, I hope.

Ignatius


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Goodbye

I will say goodbye to The Band website. Just as soon as I listen to that Snoop dog album featuring Levon, Garth and Robbie.


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Posted by:

Plato

Location: The Far Side

Subject: Logic

By now it's perfectly obvious that we all know that today is April Fool's Day. It's also obvious that Dean Hoiberg knows that we know that. Most of us have figured out by now that we know that Jan knows that we know. The question is: Is Jan really that smart to know that we know that he knows that we know? If that's true, then we have to somehow figure that we should know that, too.

Did you know that Robbie Robertson interceded in Levon's behalf back when Levon came down with throat cancer? He got Levon his album royalties ahead of schedule so that Levon could use the money to pay his medical bills.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: The Faces

I have been enjoying "first step" by the faces today. Listened to it at least three times. I really like the song "stone." Who sings on the album besides Rod Stewart? I could probably look this up, but sometimes it is just easier/faster to ask on here. What is really strange is that I don't really like Rod Stewart usually...I shouldn't say that-I enjoy his music sometimes, I just find his voice a bit irritating (this coming from someone who's favorite singers of all time, besides The Band guys, are:Dylan, Cohen and Reed-might seem funny). Does the cheese stand alone on this?


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Posted by:

Sarah

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Damn

How sad to see this site go...


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Posted by:

Nick Hibberd

Location: Olney, UK

Subject: Re: end of The Band website

ha ha ha!!!! almost had me there...


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norbert

Thanks for the Columbus Stockade link. Thanks to you, I bought the CD. It is one I like very much.


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Posted by:

Eddie H.

Location: NYC

Subject: goodbye?

Dear Jan, if THE BAND website from Norway is being shut down, I'll eat my hat.


Entered at Wed Apr 1 22:34:24 CEST 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1279310871.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.188.23)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Norbert

With respect, there is nothing at all "interesting" in reading articles that feature delusional and disturbing behaviour from the writer. What's next - a trivia question on Mark Chapman? All at once your honour.....


Entered at Wed Apr 1 22:24:51 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Vinyl compression is catchin' my soul...

Peter V: Back in the day 45 singles were mastered so they sounded punchier when played on the radio or jukebox to grab your attention. This was often accomplished by adding compression to the mix to make them sound louder. In addition, a mono single mix would more often have more punch & focus than the counterpart stereo LP mix. Sometimes a separate mono mix was done for the 45 single that was different than the one appearing on the mono LP.

The use of compression back then was generally not as heavy-handed as that used nowadays in what is called the CD "loudness wars". To make matters worse, commercial radio stations began heavily compressed their signal many years ago.


Entered at Wed Apr 1 22:19:40 CEST 2009 from modemcable048.1-200-24.mc.videotron.ca (24.200.1.48)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

"What a maroon" - Bugs Bunny


Entered at Wed Apr 1 22:07:15 CEST 2009 from (89.130.184.50)

Posted by:

Mikel Muñoz

Location: Spain

Subject: good-bye & thanx

I just learned the page is closing down. I have had wonderful times browsing through all the incredible material Jan has put together. My wife would look at the computer and say to me "are you again there?". Thanks a lot, congratulations, and best of luck. Mikel


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: The Article

Joan Brien's post he said it all, and indeed it's also an interesting read.

We've got relatives in Eindhoven as well, small world.

I'm off to the facebook!


Entered at Wed Apr 1 21:36:49 CEST 2009 from cpe0019e0103915-cm001868d92496.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

Jack

Subject: Shutting Down......on APRIL FOOL'S DAY??

Before anyone takes Jan's post for real in the What's New today, remember, it's APRIL FOOL'S DAY and Jan has a great sense of humor.


Entered at Wed Apr 1 21:30:27 CEST 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1279310871.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.188.23)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Dylan

Attached is a link to the 1st of a 5 part interview Bob Dylan did in 1984 with MTV - Backstage, relaxed and I found very interesting. Stick with the sketchy production at the beginning.....To Julie - the mystery of the Hat question is almost revealed................

To all those offering their condolences to the GB......two words - subprime mortgages!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: vinyl & CD

A while back I found a single of Country Girl, City Man by Billy Vera & Judy Clay. I liked it so much I bought the album on CD, where it's titled "Across the Line". The surprise is that the vinyl single (45) transferred to CD sounds twice as loud and ten times as good as the CD track. This keeps happening!


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Posted by:

David P.

As I recall, there was quite a bit of discussion here back when Ms. Fikes' piece first appeared. I didn't enjoy reading it then and it certainly hasn't gotten any better with age.


Entered at Wed Apr 1 20:45:20 CEST 2009 from (198.209.22.252)

Posted by:

Jeremy Ruch

Location: Missouri

Thanks for the information over the years. Sorry to see you go.


Entered at Wed Apr 1 20:37:56 CEST 2009 from 16.67.124.24.cm.sunflower.com (24.124.67.16)

Posted by:

Scott Richardson / Dexy

Subject: hey, wait a minute....

Hmmmmmm......


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: The Article

The article was an interesting read. I think she was looking for more than there was and then decided to project her own dark side into the piece using Rick as the conduit. Is there any truth in there..., maybe hints but her conjecture on this is based on readings of other source material and assumptions from there. Without actually "being" there and spending time with him on a day in day out bases, it's hard to buy into her negative outlook except to say she proabably brings a lot of negativity with her and has a healthy disdain for anything that could possibly reek of being part of the crowd.


Entered at Wed Apr 1 20:27:17 CEST 2009 from 16.67.124.24.cm.sunflower.com (24.124.67.16)

Posted by:

Scott Richardson / Dexy

Subject: Thanks, Jan

Jan, thanks again for creating and maintaining the best music site I've seen on the Web.


Entered at Wed Apr 1 20:22:14 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: John Simon is back.

The great John Simon is back from his Florida break & is playing tonight from 8-11 PM w/ the Great Ellenville (NY) Trio @ Aroma Thyme Bistro in Ellenville, NY. If you have not been, it is a great time & absolutely wonderful food. John is known not only for his own musical work, but also w/ The Band, Eric Clapton, Taj Mahal, Janis Joplin & numerous others.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: A request

My great niece Eloise is 2 years old. Her Mom is French and wants her to speak French as well as English. We found she learns really well from Videos (like Dora The Explorer,Sesame Street, etc.) I have been trolling the Internet to find videos in French or with French soundtracks that play in region one. Do any of you Canadian posters know of any Canadian internet sources of DVD's? Obviously I've tried Amazon, but is there somewhere a bit more esoteric?


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Posted by:

Peter V

"Peter" below is not me.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kevin

You hit the nail on the head.. Truly a stalker's memoir. It is very ugiy.


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Posted by:

Kevin

Location: Chicago

Wait a minute. I realized it is April 1. I always fall for your April fool jokes. I hope this is one of them


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Posted by:

Peter

Subject: Good-bye Jan

Jan, Thank you for creating and maintaining The Band website for so long. Through your fine work I was able to reconnect with important music that shaped my life and now continues to do so.


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Posted by:

Kevin

Location: Chicago

Thanks so much for creating a website like this one. I visited this site everyday for updates, and it was by far, my favorite website. The work you put into it was amazing. I am sad to see it close down. Best


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Rick Danko article

Just my take but I found that article on Rick Danko that Norbert linked really disturbing. The giveaway is that scene in the lobby…..apparently eye contact was just not good enough for her…..Rick should have formally acknowledged her presence…..a stalkers memoire if I ever did read one…..she hated crowds, hated sing-alongs and just hated to hear her favorite Band member sing Band songs….dear dear……….no security button for you……I saw Rick as many or more times than that writer and he always always carried himself with dignity and great form…..I also saw Chet Baker fall off a stool 10 minutes into a show too zonked to continue and have nothing but contempt for people/performers who allow that to happen to themselves. Rick never ever exhibited anything other than complete respect for himself in any live performance I witnessed. That clip, I think filmed at Shangri-La outdoors, used in the documentary on the Band ( the one that didn’t even mention RR’s name ) was sad but I blame the makers of that thing or management for allowing it to be used……………..56 years of straight-out dignity and good cheer - is what I remember…….and for the most part what I think should be remembered.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jan H

And a Happy April to you kind sir!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bruce Cockburn

Steve: Thank you. I have not heard an interview with Cockburn in a long time. I especially like hearing him play - thanks for the notice. Like Jeff Beck, you get the feeling that Cockburn still practises and makes efforts to improve....which really says something when you are as accomplished as they both are.

Marianne Faithful sounded good last night on Letterman...She seems to have grown into her hardness...

Late 2009 - early 2010 should bring new albums from Levon Helm, Robbie Robertson and Chronicles II from Bob Dylan.......Should be enough to keep this GB going until the next US election...........


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Baggage

That video of Robbie signing autographs by the luggage carousel reminds me of the story told by journalist Larry Kane who got to join the Beatles for their first two tours of the US. He says there was another journalist along for the first tour with what turned out to be the unfortunate name of George Harrison. A throng of teenage girls spotted a piece of luggage with the name "George Harrison" on it and the horrified reporter witnessed his underwear and other clothing get ripped from his bag, never to be seen again. I hope nobody swiped Mr. Robertson's underwear.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: dlew(sional)

You've surpassed yourself with that one Aussie. And what timing, being April Fool's Day and all. With you taking teh spot of Vivino, I suppose Levon will be giving Larry Campbell the boot next and bringing in the recently Juno-crowned Old Man Luedeckie for his banjo prowess. NB


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Posted by:

Friend0

Yesterday at the corner store the shopkeeper was telling one of her regular cigarette customers that a pack of smokes wil be 11 bucks as of today. It wasn't an April Fool's Joke. Conficker worm, also not a April fool's Joke. Today is the day the latest incarnation is set to strike worldwide.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: LHB, Paddy Roberts, Freddy Roberts, etc...

Pat: Levon has been itching to get rid of Vivino so he can put me in. I have this on no authority, but it must be true. If you read 'the secret' all i needed to do was want reaaly hard. I'm guessing levon's just working up the courage. ; ) /n Peter: i'd heard of all those guys ezcept for Paddy. Benny Hill at his best is a particular favourite. As is bill cosby. And yes, sadly, 'my boomerang win't come back was a hit here. You know he practised till he was black in the face? (shudder) /n Kristie: you see, that's why i have no friends. Just in case i become part of an album like that. /n


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the springtime activity at the turtle pond

Subject: opening in the "LHB"?

Come on, David P., regarding that Grammy winning ensemble Rambling around Woodstock, I heard that there is another cat who's suitable for the guitar part, and they can even capitalize on "The Great Jimmy ...(W)". Knows the material well, makes it his own, in homage without any blatant ripping off or stupid tribute band crap, yet delivers it with an eloquence we thought would never be attained until he beautifully filled these shoes for this (limited) run. Sure was nice of Vivino to get back in that spot for a few years afterwards, and having Weider able to shift back in again somewhat eases the pain. I'm just worried about some of the female fans, thinking about "loadin' up the truck to move to Beverly... Hills, that is".


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Dave's guest tonight

Wanted to post about Dave Letterman is having Marianne Faithful as his musical guest.

Thanks guys, the links have been amazing. Oh that ROBBIE was a cutie, and that hair. Lucky guy. Loved them all as well as the articles.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxox


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: BEFORE THE FLOOD remaster

4 new Dylan remasters came out today, including the '74 live album with the Band. The sound is greatly improved, especially with Garth's keyboards. Very clear and crisp. And you can finally hear Richard's 2nd drumkit on When You Awake. A must for Band fans. I was a disappointed, though, that no extra photos of the Band members are included (there is a small booklet with extra Dylan photos).


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: the 50 best

It seems that many of these types of lists, particularly when compiled by Rolling Stone, believe that music history began with The Beatles -


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Joan

I am with you on the article. I am also curious as to why she wrote it in the first place, as she doesn't appear to be so much a fan as some sort of glorified groupie. I also read it a couple of years ago well toiling on the internet and actually very briefly considered naming my now defunct band"canadian riffraff." Those two words together ARE funny. Other than that not a fan of the article. I wonder if she has ever been in the GB, perhaps as someone else?

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