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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, June 2014


Entered at Mon Jun 30 23:19:40 CEST 2014 from (79.160.47.202)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

This is getting serious now. Check track 7 :-D


Entered at Mon Jun 30 22:55:34 CEST 2014 from (79.160.47.202)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Meanwhile, in Michigan...


Entered at Mon Jun 30 19:28:19 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Once again I am blessed to do the music of The Band with Tributosaurus. This Thursday at 7pm at Fitzgeralds in Berwyn Il. We are followed by Paul Barrere and Fred Tackett from Little Feat who are going to do a LT/Lowell George Tribute.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 19:13:56 CEST 2014 from (162.213.113.107)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA
Web: My link

Subject: New Jerry Lee Lewis

RR in the news


Entered at Mon Jun 30 19:09:46 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Subject: bootlegs

In the mid '90's I helped a zydeco musician whose earlier works had been released on a label that was kind of shady. There were distributors' names listed as "producers", songs that were released on bankrupt independent labels, jukebox '45's that were never on LP, and even the infamous name of Morris Levy on the packaging. We burned a few CDs of his stuff (on which he'd never received a penny) and sent it to a company that made CDs professionally for many known artists. We signed agreements that he indeed was the artist/performer/owner of this material and they burned an initial run of 500 discs. My son and I worked up an appropriate cover photo and song list, and the musician got to sell these at his shows. This went so well, that we had them burn an additional 1000. I had tremendous fun doing this, as well as the satisfaction that we got the best of some snakes that had shafted him so many years earlier.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 17:10:51 CEST 2014 from (91.0.23.173)

Posted by:

Yannick

Subject: Robbie Robertson / Howie B

Near the very end of this https://soundcloud.com/howieb/gillespetersonbbc6music190414 interview with producer Howie B, he says he is going to be working with Robbie Robertson soon for Robbie's next album. I figured this newsbit would be of some interest for you guys.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 16:20:44 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: WW I aces

Laurie van Truck....ha! good one. : )


Entered at Mon Jun 30 16:18:49 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Those Little Feat shows from Ultrasonic Studios (from 73 & 74) which can be found on archive.org have been on CD for a bit. Same shows, and to my ears same audio quality. Come to think of it the shows for free download (with the blessing of Little Feat) on archive.org sounded a bit better.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 15:38:18 CEST 2014 from (71.168.223.163)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: bootlegs

Peter, in some cases bootlegs are superior to official releases in that they aren't overdubbed and futzed around with. I remember when the Springsteen live box came out back in the 80's, many fans complained about the mix and the drum sound in particular and many preferred the boots which often were from radio broadcasts.

In many cases, bootlegs have inspired official releases. The obvious examples for The Band are the crossing the great divide, academy of outtakes and the complete last waltz. In some ways I prefer these bootlegs sets over the later officially released versions.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 15:12:07 CEST 2014 from (174.89.107.22)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hmmm....Looks like some of the videos have already been removed. Let's try this one with Yolanda Adams again. So worth seeing as she marinates this song for Lionel Ritchie until she completely has another worldly experience. This was the only performer that Lionel stood up for. I always love watching the audience especially the rappers who were totally entranced and most in the audience as usual....knew the words to songs by many artists from many genres.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 14:56:02 CEST 2014 from (174.89.107.22)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....another favourite from last night's BET AWARDS 2014 is cool vibes singer-songwriter/rapper who I've shared here before.....

Jhene Aiko - John Legend on piano


Entered at Mon Jun 30 14:44:21 CEST 2014 from (174.89.107.22)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Another favourite from last night's BET AWARDS 2014

Hip Hop/Rapper Nicki Minaj - Chi-Raq, Pills & Potions (Live at BET Awards 2014)


Entered at Mon Jun 30 14:36:40 CEST 2014 from (174.89.107.22)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I enjoyed the BET 2014 Awards last night.
One particular performance honouring Lionel Ritchie was by gospel singer Yolanda Adams.....POWERFUL PERIOD.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 14:33:14 CEST 2014 from (174.89.107.22)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

England's World Cup team's favourite songs for charity.

One Canadian represented and one who's father is Canadian and one I like....Sam Smith. Many others I don't even know who they are. I'm sure those of you across the Atlantic do.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 13:11:59 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

That's right, Fred. His aerial acrobats with the Dutch flying ace Laurie Van Truck are legendary,


Entered at Mon Jun 30 13:08:05 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: The Flying Circus

Wasn't Lee von Helm one of the aces of The Flying Circus along with Manfred von Richthofen?!? : )


Entered at Mon Jun 30 12:17:29 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Ben, I agree that no one buys the bootleg unless they have hoovered up every single official release first. So unlike pirates, they are not "diverting funds" that would have otherwise gone to the artist. Pirates are taking huge amounts of money by direct theft … look anywhere in the Middle East or China or South-East Asia. I get quite funny about it and my son knows "No pirate Chinese DVDs allowed here." One of my books was so heavily pirated in Russia that the publisher assumed Russian sales of the pirate were higher than world sales of the official one. I used to get letters from Vietnam and Iran asking how they could get full color editions, because the pirates on sale were only black and white. So I have personally lost a lot of money to pirates, and would make the bastards walk the plank.

However, bootleg CDs (bootleg as opposed to pirate) are being sold at higher than normal CD prices and it is wrong that they don't pay a royalty to the artist, though allegedly Springsteen bootlegged himself when he was at odds with contracts. It is normal to resent someone taking your work, putting it on a CD in a case for a cost of about $1 per copy, then selling it for $20 and pocketing the lot.

Those copyright-free Italian ones were supposed to pay a royalty in fact, and Italian bootleg LPs and CDs from that era often have a note saying that a royalty has been deposited in the artist's name at a specific bank. A friend who was bootlegged enquired. It was a tiny sum and the particular bank wanted more than the sum as a "transfer fee." But you'd be pissed off if an employer said "I'll pay you what I feel like paying on the day."

I assume the Danko ones were from tapes, and that someone somewhere was paid something.

Zappa took a bootleg and reissued it officially.


Entered at Mon Jun 30 11:43:12 CEST 2014 from (71.168.223.163)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: bootlegs

I'm a big fan of an collector of bootleg cd's. I have several versions of the King Biscuit cd. Clinton Heylin wrote a very interesting history of bootlegs back in the 90's which had quite a bit of material on the basement tapes .

Adam, I don't think that the Danko live cd's that came out on Bear are from radio broadcasts.

I'm surprised to read that some people have issues with bootlegs. Some fans are satisfied with the official catalog and others seek out bootlegs. The artists aren't losing any money as these concerts weren't officially released. The only circumstance that an artist would lose money is if someone bought a pirated copy of an official releases.

Back in the day, I used to trade tapes. I have a few boxes of tapes in the basement which I need to get transferred to cd


Entered at Mon Jun 30 10:33:46 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Carter Barron

I first got this show on "Live in Washinton" (sic) in a shop in Italy … I don't think it was even a proper record shop, just a corner store with a spinner of CDs. I was thrilled at the time, as I'd never seen a Band bootleg, let alone one on sale between the bottled water and bananas. At that time, live performances could not be copyrighted in either Italy or Luxemburg, so in local terms, it was a legal release. This is the one I've often quoted with the drummer Lee Von Helm (sic). The bootleg was labelled "December 12th 1976" which was clearly wrong. The new release has it correctly at July 17th, so I'd guess it's sourced from a Radio Show CD, not a bootleg. Were radio shows done with a specific compression?


Entered at Mon Jun 30 00:20:38 CEST 2014 from (75.34.34.164)

Posted by:

Adam

Peter, exactly. The cover photo is nowhere near the right era for a 1976 Band concert. Things like that point out the clueless nature of the bootleg productions. And the sad thing is, while this CD is now easily available to buy, the sound quality is much worse than the PRE-FM "King Biscuit" tape reel transfer of the best quality bootleg!


Entered at Sun Jun 29 21:50:06 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Peter M, while I agree entirely with your sentiments, I’d guess that David Lindley was financially-afflicted by Ry Cooder declining to tour, rather than by the loss of personal record sales. While I love David Lindley’s work, I rather doubt it sold in large quantities.


Entered at Sun Jun 29 15:15:54 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Interesting to see the "no recording devices or cameras" notices at recent shows have added "or Smartphones" but I've never seen anyone trying to stop Smartphones going in … and to be fair, no one is going to hand over their phone to a stranger. It's the proverbial shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. You always see people running Smartphones on video at shows. The Grand Ole Opry were most unusual in saying "You can take photographs, but no videos." Museums and art galleries have given up bans on photography too, limiting it to "no flash or video." Even Graceland allows that.

When I saw Van Morrison a few yeas ago, the notice said "This show will stop immediately if cameras are used" but then last year in the open air show people not only had cameras but tripods.


Entered at Sun Jun 29 13:48:05 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: um, justice to the musicians we love

Subject: yeah, "grey releases"

David Lindley was deeply hurt financially by "grey release" CDs. His friend, Ry Cooder curtailed his live playing a lot, due to weird Italian label releases of their bootlegs, stealth tapers and "fan recordings" of shows that somehow make it to the internet market. Mr Dave even came up with a semi-fictitious character, "Badgerman", a cross between Mr Dave and Paulie Walnuts, to creep into and haunt the dreams of those who bootleg their products. In modern legend, Badgerman comes to you at night in your dreams, and plays upon your sense of decency, as well as your conscience and fears. He knows some of us just can't help supporting the pirates who play fast and loose with musicians' intellectual properties that have been STOLEN from them and put out for sale without the artists' permission or editorial hand. He has said that we should feel guilty/complicit in this larceny of their works, with no regard to copyright or musician say so about what merits release, what performances they would rather not have out there, etc. But Badgerman know that this sh*t happens, sometimes to otherwise decent, conscientious fans. He suggested that if any of us are complicit in this kind of stuff, we can ease our consciences a little bit by sending $5 to the artist we've hurt by taking our part in this. This has always worked out for me. I've never had a check or payment for this kind of thing turned down or returned by an artist (except by that goofy bastard, Rick Danko), and I dealt with him in a sneakier, more roundabout way. Support the musicians we love at the grassroots level!


Entered at Sun Jun 29 13:12:36 CEST 2014 from (174.20.85.183)

Posted by:

Jerry

If Clapton is serious about quitting the road I'm happy to say I've had the pleasure of seeing him a number of times. In an interview recently he mentioned that he watched a performance of himself in the 90's and realized without thinking about it there were certain things he just didn't do anymore.


Entered at Sun Jun 29 11:42:08 CEST 2014 from (83.249.139.1)

Posted by:

NWC

Location: Scania

Subject: More confusing maritime handles

I read the other day a catalogue of old fishing boats. There was a series of boats with interest names: Peter I, Peter II, Peter III, Peter IV and... and lo and behold... Peter V. One of the name plates can be seen even in local Maritime Museum. BTW museums. Did BONK know that there is a BONK Museum in Finland? Very confusing!


Entered at Sun Jun 29 10:52:38 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

On the bootleg point, cover photos are nearly always from a different era on these "grey CDs" so the Carter Barron has a brown album era photo on the 1976 show. A Springsteen "pre-1973" set has a Born in The USA photo. It kind of suggests these are NOT fan productions!


Entered at Sun Jun 29 10:49:32 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Grey CDs

There are a lot of these releases around … yesterday I saw a 3 CD Bruce Springsteen "On Radio" box set and a large Neil Young "On Air" box set, both in legitimate shops. A lot are radio shows … in the last couple of months I've bought a James Taylor (immaculate sound and performance) and a Flying Burrito Brothers (a bit ragged but spirited). The issue is that the same shows are turning up with different sleeves and titles, suggesting a "free for all."

In the late 90s there was a mail order trade in original King Biscuit radio show CDs (as sent out to radio stations for broadcast), which many of these are taken from. I bought Band ones when they were advertised. I also began to suspect some were being duplicated complete with NOT FOR SALE printing. Some had bits of artist interviews, often with blanks for the local DJ to ask the question themselves from a printed cue sheet, "So, moving on, Robbie, what was the Forest Hill show like?" then push the button to get the answer, ("I'm glad you asked me that. Well, …")

However a Joni Mitchell / James Taylor set is a BBC John Peel show broadcast issued on yet another unknown label, which is weird as the BBC issue some of these old shows legitimately themselves.

I was thinking they were some kind of King Biscuit deal with the artists (so OK), but as I looked at amazon.co.uk today, I wonder if they re just plain bootlegs. In which case, why are they on open sale? I wonder if the proliferation of tape trees and MP3s has just meant it's not worth artists chasing these anymore. But you'd think the record industry would stop it with amazon or major stores. You'd think it was worth Universal or Sony's while to send a stiff general legal letter to amazon, the main source. Amazon.co.uk is full of them. If they list albums in sales order, which I think they do, "Carter Barron" is currently The Band's second best-seller. I really hope they are being paid.


Entered at Sun Jun 29 03:20:35 CEST 2014 from (75.34.34.164)

Posted by:

Adam

No problem, Peter! "Grey area" is something I've always heard in reference to those live releases, from small independent UK labels, who are somehow technically not breaking UK copyright by releasing these, but are obviously using fan circulating recordings or usually worse.

Like all those Rick Danko live releases from "Bear" (NOT Bear Family), which I have always suspected of being from bootlegs. I know nothing of the technical details, but other artists like Neil Young have had these UK CDs. One of his was an "official" release of a CNY gig in 1971, the other a solo show from the early '90s. There's also a new Allman Brothers "grey area" release of a Hollywood Bowl show. Somehow these companies get ahold of bootlegs or tapes and are not breaking the law by releasing them?


Entered at Sat Jun 28 23:59:11 CEST 2014 from (67.87.216.122)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Clapton retiring. from the hostile road.

See the link.. I agree. I think most people who spend a lot of time traveling would agree that traveling has become hostile. I used to spend endless amounts of time behind the wheel of a car or van.I dislike driving these days, for quite some years now actually- but only because of the other drivers.... but it also seems like Eric is having some health problems.


Entered at Sat Jun 28 23:24:36 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Thanks, Adam, 'grey area' is used a lot. What does it mean? Being paid is black and white to me,.


Entered at Sat Jun 28 22:22:50 CEST 2014 from (75.34.35.80)

Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Band 1976 recording

The "Carter Barron Amphitheater 1976" release definitely seems like a grey area UK release. The label is Keyhole Records, who have tons of other live releases from the '70s from by brief search. They probably got a bootleg copy and pressed it to disc. I was really hoping that to be wrong, but I downloaded a track and A/B'd it to the best circulating bootleg copy. The new release is faster, higher pitched and sounds louder and worse.

The best source for this show is the bootleg copy with the following notes: Source - SBD Pre-FM King Biscuit discs and reels Length [???71:13 mins???] Lineage = PRE-FM - ? - EAC - WAV - mkw ac tool - shn [*Per TD: Source uploader believed to be Evan772 at TTD. TD Lineage - TTD/Dime - SHN - WAV - FLAC - edited text file and regen .md5 - PR]


Entered at Sat Jun 28 17:06:54 CEST 2014 from (64.229.244.125)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Oooops! Thanks Nomadic Mike. Uhhh.....Anyway, I thought 150 sounded better and I was rounding numbers. LOL

Hoping everything is groovy in the land of story book gardens. Btw, Jersey Boys film was great! :-D


Entered at Sat Jun 28 16:53:44 CEST 2014 from (64.229.147.152)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

One forty-seven, Angie.


Entered at Sat Jun 28 16:29:11 CEST 2014 from (64.229.244.125)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

This one is for you Ben.

Happy Canada Day weekend as July 1 we're 150 years old.

Happy Pride....Rainbow colours for all.


Entered at Sat Jun 28 15:32:42 CEST 2014 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Bellowhead - "Revival"

Bellowhead: "Revival" released June 23, 2014: Island Records: various formats


Entered at Sat Jun 28 11:12:02 CEST 2014 from (83.249.131.169)

Posted by:

Northern Word Counter

Location: Scania NorthWest

Subject: "this other guy"

Thanks Bill for introducing this new handle. I guess it is too much to ask for Rockin Chair to change the name of his tug.


Entered at Sat Jun 28 10:01:57 CEST 2014 from (95.234.78.30)

Posted by:

Roger

Subject: Too soon gone

RIP Bobby Womack. Made national the headlines in the UK.


Entered at Sat Jun 28 09:30:34 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Carter Barron 1976

Just ordered the 1976 Washington show from amazon.uk I have had the Italian CD for years, and it was spread over three radio show CDs, each differing by just one track. Good to have it all (hopefully) in one place. But what is the status of this release? Lots of 70s and 80s radio shows are turning up on CD on amazon and in legitimate shops like Fopp and HMV so they cannot be bootlegs as such. They are described as semi-official. what does that mean? Do the artists get paid?


Entered at Fri Jun 27 21:23:12 CEST 2014 from (64.229.147.152)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Rockin C

Get up on the right side of bed today, Normie?


Entered at Fri Jun 27 16:51:35 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Al Edge.......GET IT RIGHT!!!

In a recent post you referred to "Westcoaster", and I'm sure it wasn't me you meant. I no longer use the handle "Westcoaster", (which is the name of my tug boat) because this other guy feels it's ok to attach himself to my name. I think it is in bad taste........however.

Carry on but just get it right.


Entered at Fri Jun 27 15:21:07 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bob Dylan: 3rd Slow Train Coming Recording Session 2 May 1979


Entered at Fri Jun 27 15:04:26 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

NWC: Northern Word Counter?


Entered at Fri Jun 27 14:51:47 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

No problem Simon. I think you're the only one here who also likes Style Council so it's all good. ;-D I appreciated that you recognized that not all feminists are the same. Just as male posters here are not a homogeneous group......As for feminism there are different kinds such as radical, marxist, liberal.....Any article whether it be music/sports/politics related that I link up doesn't mean I agree with any or everything in it. I sometimes like to stir it up too.

Ben and Ilkka...I always post that one lyric of Bob's from What Can I Do For You as that's the only song I have on my Nano and really like from Saved. Slow Train Coming.......love all of it. I taught God Made All The Animals to the kidzzz but we changed it to We Made.......

Inclusionary language.....Sportsmanship evolves to sense of fair play.

No games today so I'm taking a break from commenting.....lol

Joan...I knew that if you took the time to comment that it was because you had to say something. I'm glad that you took the time and I'm sure everyone appreciates your sense of fair play here as well as on previous sites.


Entered at Fri Jun 27 12:07:24 CEST 2014 from (83.249.141.113)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Saved / Ben / Peter V

I agree with Ben about Saved beeing underrated. It has two very elegant theological dimensions: ecclesiastic contra evangelical Free Church and Christianity contra Judaism. Exciting album. - Peter V managed to write one of his shortest posts ever on this subject: ten words.

And now back to football.


Entered at Fri Jun 27 07:54:31 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Interesting comments about racism in the World Cup. Rugby has had similar problems but maybe not to the same extent. A while back the All Blacks were going through a bad patch and there were various comments about having too many Polynesians in the team. One well respected Samoan back sarcastically commented that the white boys made all the decisions (in play) and he was just one of the brown boys. I think things have changed now. The Maori players have never been subjected to the same attituedes as they have been the back bone of the team as long as it has existed (apart from a shameful period with South Africa). NZ has benefited from having from being able to tap the Polynesian countries for players for talent. Other countries are also doing so now. Money wins in the end and the countries of birth tend to lose.


Entered at Fri Jun 27 07:33:39 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: Earth

Subject: the jokes at Mac's Pages

I generally dislike joke telling, as there is usually a little nugget of misogyny, racism or misplaced "Hooray for our team" national pride at the core. My blonde hairdresser sister is a big fan of blonde jokes (go figure?). Generally, if I attempt telling a joke I mess it up by blurting out the punchline prematurely or saying "No, wait, it goes like this". Mac, on the other hand, is a master of collecting stories from his and David Lindley's drummer friend, Ian Wallace. They often have a decidedly British flavor to them, skewering priests, musicians, the Irish, etc. I referenced the blonde joke, as she actually comes out the victor in this one. And the Apollo 11 one is reported as true. I believe everyone who retold it (over many years) believed it as true. Well... I checked it out on the snopes.com urban legend site, and that is just what it is, an urban legend. As Mac says, "Have a look, have a laugh, cheers!".


Entered at Thu Jun 26 22:34:56 CEST 2014 from (109.146.72.146)

Posted by:

Simon

You're welcome, James. I took what you originally posted to mean something akin to the comments of John Barnes. Thanks for that link. He really was an amazing player, often hailed as an early pioneer against racism in football.

I hope that after all this time that Joan, BEG and Bill know that there was no ill feeling in anything I posted. Mischief making, perhaps. It's hard not to get ticked off these days when reading certain types of articles in the Guardian by a certain type of feminist writer. I really don't appreciate a rape reference being dropped into a piece ostensibly about the World Cup. Then again what else was I expecting after seeing the title. Normally BEG's links are at the level of The Weight or King Harvest or Acadian Driftwood (and much appreciated). That one was a Streetwalker. o;-)

As Peter M said the joke section at Ian McLagan's site is worth a visit.


Entered at Thu Jun 26 19:34:42 CEST 2014 from (96.232.159.74)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BEG

Thank you Angie fur laying out my case, It is tough for me to type so I appreciate the "help" I didn't like the word "mentality " Peace


Entered at Thu Jun 26 17:49:22 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Ok apology accepted. I think if the article had said "attitude" because of playing conditions.....instead of mentality it wouldn't have immediately disturbed me. What about the Asian teams? Of course our attitudes and/or mentality are shaped by our working and/or playing conditions.....They are not intrinsic to us. However, no one can espouse that an entire group of people as having the same attitude or mentality or whatever whether they be from a particular continent or gender or sexual orientation.

Now the only time I am an ethnocentric is in sports and music so this time......I still have to cheer for my family's country.

I'm going to be switching between USA game and other game with Portugal and Ghana. Portugal has to win by three goals?

So James after the matches today maybe you can share about music or maybe not until mid-July?


Entered at Thu Jun 26 17:39:32 CEST 2014 from (92.18.203.181)

Posted by:

James

Are we going to enjoy the USA v Germany game now ? It should be a cracker.


Entered at Thu Jun 26 17:31:54 CEST 2014 from (92.18.203.181)

Posted by:

James

The European and South American teams have always dominated World Cups. The USA and African teams are relatively new to the tournament and I think it takes all those years of experience to create a certain winning mentality in the World Cup. Maybe I'm talking BS! But it is in no way intended to be racist. I'm sorry if it came across that way.


Entered at Thu Jun 26 17:10:06 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

My understanding was that you your first post was referencing an article you read by saying that it was because Africans lacked a certain mentality that they are not capable of winning a world cup. And that the Europeans and South Americans....what about the USA?.....had a certain mentality and therefore will continue to win. If I misunderstood you I apologize James.

Btw, I said your comments were patronizing as you assumed that I know nothing about the history of the World Cup or African football.


Entered at Thu Jun 26 16:57:47 CEST 2014 from (92.18.203.181)

Posted by:

James

Areas of contention have included players not being paid on time, poor travel arrangements, inadequate preparations, lack of communication and other administrative issues. Wouldn't being treated like that give anyone a bad mentality ? NO WAY was I saying it has anything to do with colour. I would love an African team to win the World Cup.


Entered at Thu Jun 26 16:37:58 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Although your comments were patronizing James I still read the article you linked.

Personally I do know about racism first hand as I was in a previous inter-racial relationship and I experienced for the first time various challenges as being the only white person in certain situations and the challenges he had in my small "world". How's this for another example of racism....Italy's only black player from Ghanian born parents but he was born in Italy still gets called "monkey" when he plays in Italy? It's unbelievable but true.

Anyway, from reading the article isn't he saying that the real problem for the African players in general is how their organisations treat them so their working/playing conditions would affect their play on the field? Are you telling me that if your team in England had to endure similar circumstances that they would perform the same? Oh but they do have excellent conditions and they still weren't able to press on and yet....They are an European team.

"Areas of contention have included players not being paid on time, poor travel arrangements, inadequate preparations, lack of communication and other administrative issues.

And while this has surely affected the performance of their national teams, Barnes does not blame the players. "It's understandable considering the way that the players are treated by the administrators. They're treated much better in Europe, and players have to be made to feel wanted," he said."

In any case, I am throughly enjoying this World Cup no matter who "wins". It's such a short tournament and most players have the last laugh as they make millions for their other teams.

This is my opinion just as the writer of the article has his. Joan and Bill M also were offended by your comments. Also the fact that your team is out will only intensify further postings.....very understandable as I'm a passionate fan as well. My own father played football in Europe and had dreams to continue when he emigrated to Canada......nope.....His family put him in an iron factory instead while they ran a small business. Welcome to Canada!


Entered at Thu Jun 26 15:48:20 CEST 2014 from (92.18.203.181)

Posted by:

James

Web: My link

Subject: World Cup

brown eyed girl, I lost you because you know nothing about the history of the World Cup or African football. I have put a link up from one of England's best black players in the hope that he can describe it better for you.


Entered at Thu Jun 26 15:12:01 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

James...Maybe you were having a bad day as England won't be continuing in the World Cup? I appreciated that you acknowledged that Ghana played well. You lost me when you stated....."I think the African teams don't have the *mentality* to win it like the Europeans or South Americans." Isn't that grouping a whole group of people as lacking a certain mentality to win as a form of racism?

I've watched most games except for yesterday. Two players on Ivory Coast just lost a brother and their father told them to still play for their country. Another player was tearing up just hearing his national anthem. The winning goal for Greece was controversial so the game could have gone either way. Sorry, but I don't think your mentality was fair-minded. Your comment was racist.

As far as the disguised dumb blonde jokes.....Many bleached female performers in the music bizzz were actually A students and played the Marilyn Monroe game to get what they wanted....Madonna, Gwen Stefani, Lady Gaga, etc. Then you have women like Sophia V who is a natural blonde but darkens her hair to be taken more seriously...ha, ha. Bowie is also a natural blond but he coloured his hair so many shades which only furthered his ambiguity.

Racism, sexism it's all the same isims. Even in Canada we still in 2014.......have to deal with a public figure who believes.....

Peter MacKay lauds moms for changing diapers, dads for moulding minds in holiday messages

Mother's and Father's Day emails from justice minister praise mothers as caregivers, fathers as role models......blatant sexism......


Entered at Thu Jun 26 13:32:15 CEST 2014 from (92.18.203.181)

Posted by:

James

Simon, thanks for being fair-minded.


Entered at Thu Jun 26 09:22:37 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Subject: Peter V.

Thank you. I enjoyed the explanation of the blond/blonde distinction, as well as the brief etymology of the reason for offensive blonde jokes in our society. Sadly true. Sort of a wolf in sheep's clothing when you think of it, thinly disguising the (somehow more offensive?) ethnic jokes of our not too distant past. I'm not too big a fan of jokes in general myself, as there is often a nugget of bigotry or one upmanship lurking under the surface. I'm personally more a fan of absurdity or situational humor. Notice how I handed off Mac's joke untouched. But, that being said, this is, like Dolly's, a blonde joke with an O Henry twist.


Entered at Thu Jun 26 01:07:34 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Dolly Parton and Dumb Blonde jokes

I quite like Dolly's response (and I approximate as I'm depending on memory): " I don't mind Dumb Blonde jokes because I know I'm not dumb (... pause ...) and I'm not blonde either".


Entered at Wed Jun 25 22:42:13 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Saved

Unfortunately the lyrics are doggerel, and it has no melodies.


Entered at Wed Jun 25 18:40:23 CEST 2014 from (171.159.192.10)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Dylan gospel

BEG, I agree with you comepltely on Dylan's christian albums. As a jewish agnostic, I don't often find myself listening to gospel or christiam music. But as a Dylan fan, I find these albums very worthwhile and satisfying. They contain some of his best singing. I think that 'Saved' is one of Dylan's most underrated albums.


Entered at Wed Jun 25 17:44:00 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I know all about poison, I know all about fiery darts
I don't care how rough the road is, show me where it starts
Whatever pleases You, tell it to my heart
Well, I don't deserve it but I sure did make it through
What can I do for You ?

Bob Dylan from Saved


Entered at Wed Jun 25 17:36:59 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you Bob F!! I thoroughly enjoyed listening to Regina Mcrary!!

Here she is singing one of Bob's songs....Pressing On.

I absolutely regret not seeing Bob and Regina and others on the gospel tour. Due to my aethism at the time I couldn't press through. I did however get hit with lightning when Slow Train came through. I was in Saskatoon at the time visiting a friend who just landed a job as a journalist. Once I heard the various tracks on the radio.....I just stopped right there in my tracks and slowly became an agnostic. I also heard Bob's lyrics in my mind with references to relationships between men and women as opposed to one's relationship with God or a higher power. So when Bob would sing about Christ I was hearing something else. It's how I deal with the other Bob's messages related to Rastafarianism as well.

Also as a feminist (females and/or males who recognize women as a social groups' oppression....I was very lucky to have had a male professor who was a feminist) I am embarrassed to state that I don't promote as many women artists on this site as I should. I struggle with this as I'm of a certain vintage where mostly men were our heroes in music....as well as sports.

I also forgot many times to say that although I won't stop posting about sexism here and posters who attack us personally......Although sometimes I simply ignore and don't respond as some males as well as females just want a reaction......There are also men here who have experienced bullying, mean-spiritedness and personal attacks. Some have left at times, stating, "I'm outta here." "I'm done". They have returned at times. Sincerest apologies to all.

Somewhere back there I left my worries all behind.
My problems fell out of the back of my mind.
We're going and I'm never knowing (never knowing) where we're going.
To go back to where I was would just be wrong.
I'm pressing on.
Pressing on, all my distress is going, going, gone. (pressing on, pressing on)
And I won't sit back, and take this anymore.
'Cause I'm done with that, I've got one foot out the door.
And to go back where I was would just be wrong
I'm pressing on.


Entered at Wed Jun 25 15:59:55 CEST 2014 from (129.42.208.183)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Web: My link

Subject: Regina McCrary discussion at Belmont University on Bob Dylan

Really enjoyable video of Regina McCrary discussing Bob Dylan at Belmont University back in April.


Entered at Wed Jun 25 13:46:58 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The three European countries with by far the richest leagues … England, Italy, Spain … all knocked out in the first round. An interesting reflection on money and football.

Blonde jokes (there is an "e" on blonde as they are invariably about female blondes, not male blonds) have been much discussed. Blonde / blond is most unusual in English as a noun with male and female versions.

In fact, most of them are ancient racist jokes which people can no longer get away with, so the existing jokes were switched to "blondes" as obviously not Irish (England), Polish (USA) or Apenzeller (Swiss) racial stereotypes. Every country in the world has at least one ethnic group it jokes about. So you can trace "Why are blonde jokes so dumb? So that men can understand them" back to books of "Irish jokes" from 100 years ago (Why are Irish jokes so dumb? So the English can understand them.)

Then blonde jokes added a touch of misogyny, by mixing in the older jokes about women. The British "Essex girl" jokes are closely related, though tend more to a sexual element (and are usually more sexist but also funnier).

BTW, this does not mean that I have not laughed at such jokes if well told, nor even that I've never told one, but it's good to be aware that in the main they're transferred racist jokes. If you switch "blonde" to the locally slurred ethnic group, you might feel embarrassed to tell them.


Entered at Wed Jun 25 13:44:45 CEST 2014 from (60.225.181.9)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: hey all...

Still around just lurking... back soon.


Entered at Wed Jun 25 12:46:15 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Subject: blond jokes

Got a good one for ya, but you're going to have to work for it. Over at Ian McLagen's site ( ianmclagen.com ) there's a button on the home page for "Mac's Pages". Click on it then go to the subcategory "Jokes". They are all great, especially the musician jokes taking shots at drummers, accordions and Kenny G. The tenth joke down the page is the best blond joke in the world. I have no cut and paste skills (I'm no BEG), but it's worth the journey. Most of the jokes have a decidedly English bent to them, but I'll say anyway "Bon appetit !"


Entered at Wed Jun 25 12:34:10 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the pond

Subject: Midnight Rambles Vol 3

I had preordered The Best of the Midnight Rambles Sessions Volume 3 from Amazon a few weeks ago (price $11.99 plus $3.99 shipping). The Levon Helm Studios site just started offering it ($19.95 total, no shipping). Even though Amazon charges $3 less, I cancelled the Amazon preorder and placed my order through LHS. Ships July 1st at both sites. Whenever I can, I prefer to buy recordings through the artists themselves (or, in this case, his family and estate). Over the years the staff of LHS have been very good to me. I'd rather spend my money where a little bit more of it goes to the performers and producers of the product I enjoy so much. I'm afraid that Amazon is doing to musicians what Home Depot has done to crush independant hardware stores. And I'd rather flush money down the toilet than give it to Walmart.


Entered at Wed Jun 25 09:52:13 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I thought the tone of the Guardian piece odd. I don't think she gets sport in that many sports fans find women's tennis more watchable than men's, because so often there are fewer rallies in men's tennis, where mighty power serves just finish things. It's about watchability not gender, and the world popularity of soccer speaks for itself. It is the most popular spectator sport because it is the best spectator game. When I taught Latin Americans, I found the girls just as knowledgeable and enthusiastic about it as the boys.

Rod Liddle calls The Guardian "the local newspaper for Hampstead and Islington" (i.e. the wealthy left wing areas of North London, or the Ed Miller Band areas), and the article reinforces that when she talks of male football fans as "Mockney". Mockney is actually a stage accent where actors try to do a London accent (mock cockney). We also say "Mummerset" when actors try to do west country accents (Mummer's Somerset).

I suspect the football heartlands of England outside London would find it very weird to have a passion for football branded as a "London thing." What do you think, Al? Are all those people at Anfield trying to pass themselves off as "cockneys"?


Entered at Wed Jun 25 05:12:46 CEST 2014 from (173.3.49.105)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Simon- the women in this GB tend to be bullies! :-)


Entered at Wed Jun 25 01:26:45 CEST 2014 from (31.52.176.102)

Posted by:

Simon

Al, I thought it was funny.

That Guardian piece was excruciating. I got a laugh from the title though. Quotas (as always) are the answer. I'm all in favour of them, especially on oil rigs, in garbage disposal, toxic waste processing, construction of transport infrastructure and so on. Will we ever see a feminist article in the Guardian bemoaning the fact that women tennis players get the same prize money as men at Wimbledon? I won't hold my breath for that one.

I hope James - possibly a new poster - doesn't stay away. I was a bit puzzled as to why he got admonished.


Entered at Wed Jun 25 00:54:06 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.153)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: a nice take on the soccer ...

"This is the third time Suarez has bitten an opponent. He did in 2010 in the Dutch Eredivisie. He did it again in 2013 in the Premiership. Now he’s done it at the World Cup. Based on his current trajectory, Suarez will eventually bite Ban Ki-Moon at the United Nations."


Entered at Wed Jun 25 00:01:50 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

:-DDD


Entered at Tue Jun 24 22:10:43 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Bill M, this link is for you.

Congrats to CC and the proud father.


Entered at Tue Jun 24 21:54:04 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: my favourite dumb-blonde joke

Al E: Yours doesn't exactly play to type, but still my favourite has a point: Why are dumb-blonde jokes so short? So that even men can understand them.


Entered at Tue Jun 24 21:52:04 CEST 2014 from (64.229.147.152)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Pete Special

Thanks to Pat B for info.


Entered at Tue Jun 24 20:48:40 CEST 2014 from (79.160.47.202)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Westlake Recording Studios

A certain electronica artist/producer/DJ/turntablist with strong connections to this web site, who had a very enjoyable visit to Levon´s barn and Woodstock last year, is currently doing production work in a legendary LA studio (link above) for one of the seriously big names in the music industry. And there are bigger things to come, soon...


Entered at Tue Jun 24 20:33:25 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Obit for Pete Special with a mention of The Band.


Entered at Tue Jun 24 15:59:05 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Final review of music on our tour above … the American Queen Ensemble, four very talented performers who don't often get reviews!


Entered at Tue Jun 24 15:33:45 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jokes

OK. Heard at the Grand Ole Opry. From elderly host. It's clean, and I thought funny.

I went to visit my daughter last week. We were sitting there and I said, 'Hon, do you have a newspaper?'

So she said, 'Mom! This is the twenty-first century! No one has newspapers any more. I have an iPad.

That fly never knew what hit him.


Entered at Tue Jun 24 15:32:37 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Is it anti-feminist to watch the World Cup?

"The presence of women is actually key to breaking the uninterrupted circle of sexism in British men's football. Instead of boycotting football, the presence of women is key to breaking the uninterrupted circle of sexism. Any woman who has been humiliated by sexual bullying or harassment by groups of men knows it's the exclusion of women that fosters this male bond and makes it easy to stereotype us as "gash", wags or nags. The mockney trinity of "beer, birds and football" has been uniting men in retro-sexism across all divides of politics and class since the 1990s and this needs to end.

So why not watch the men's tournament to psych ourselves up for our World Cup next year? If it starts to get infuriating, as it probably will for any woman with her consciousness half-raised, imagine the players are women. Don't compromise "ladette-style" by joining in with cries of "gawaan my saaaahn!" at your local, but practise calling out "get in there, girl!" – for the sheer subversive amusement if nothing else. Steer the conversation with football fans to ask whether they are considering going to the World Cup in Canada next year. In fact, wherever there is men's football, just keep talking about women's football until everyone around you sees this man-focused football for the weird anachronism that it is."


Entered at Tue Jun 24 15:21:12 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: For Westcoaster - who ever said Scandinavian blondes were dumb?

A young ventriloquist is touring Sweden. With his dummy on his knee, he starts going through his usual dumb blonde jokes.

Suddenly, a beautiful blonde woman in the fourth row stands on her chair and starts shouting, "I've heard enough of your stupid blonde jokes. What makes you think you can stereotype Swedish blond women that way? It's men like you who keep women like me from being respected at work and in the community, and from reaching our full potential as human beings. You continue to perpetuate discrimination against not only blondes, but women in general, pathetically all in the name of humor!"

The embarrassed ventriloquist begins to apologize, and the blonde yells at him: "You stay out of this! I'm talking to that little shit on your lap."


Entered at Tue Jun 24 15:19:41 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Shakira - The tasteful......La La La (Brazil 2014) ft. Carlinhos Brown...much better tune than JLo and Pitball's World Cup opener in Brazil.

A former colleague told me that when she visited Brazil with her mom....yikes...that everywhere she went......you could just feeeel that everything was sexual. Oh la, la.....
In above video Shakira's significant other player from Spain Gerard Pique is one of the football players in the video. I guess this European team didn't quite have the right mentality this year as they didn't even win or tie one game and yet.....last World Cup they won the whole thing.

What a treat to witness Neymar in yesterday's Brazil game. And I'm a sucker for Germany's back flipper.....Miroslav Klose....and the African team who get their groove on when they score.....Ghana....who tied Germany 2-2!!!


Entered at Tue Jun 24 13:52:40 CEST 2014 from (173.3.49.105)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Steve Cropper on digital recording

See the link


Entered at Tue Jun 24 13:11:35 CEST 2014 from (83.249.143.191)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Peter V on Facebook

And most of all: we are not sold and bought daily in Nasdac stock exchange.


Entered at Mon Jun 23 16:13:38 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Full title is "Let Us In Americana: The Music of Paul McCartney" Various Artists 2013, Reviver Records. It does include Beatles songs, but Paul's authorized biography was very clear on pointing out which songs were "his."


Entered at Mon Jun 23 15:55:13 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Joan: Good for you for hanging in here - and for responding to that James person.

Peter V: Thanks for the news about the Beatles tribute. Sounds good, but what's with the title? Who is 'Us' and where is 'In' in this case? Too bad our guys aren't around to sing "Get Back", which has always seemed Bandish to me. So for that matter does "Rocky Raccoon", a cute song despite the fact that Paul managed to confuse the raccoon with the flying squirrel.

Pat B: That reminds me, how did your Abbey Road gig a few weeks ago go?


Entered at Mon Jun 23 14:48:37 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I think we lost a lot of people to Facebook here. I can see the appeal with pictures etc, but it is a bit confusing … it's like too many conversations going on simultaneously in a room, which I why I prefer to stay mainly here and just link my stuff to Facebook. Facebook also removes any constraint that we should be mentioning The Band all the time.

Though I picked up "Let Us In: Americana" CD in Nashville, which is an Americana tribute to the songs of Paul McCartney with "Get Back" by Ollabelle, and Amy Helm contributing to Let It Be. (Plus Teddy Thompson, Sam Bush, Buddy Miller, Steve Earle, Bruce Cockburn). . I got back last night and haven't even played it yet, but it looks the sort of thing people here would like.


Entered at Mon Jun 23 14:46:14 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Butch Dener's HomeGrown Allstars Live at Dressel Farm

from Francesco Cordaro
Hosted by
Butch Dener

Musicians

Randy Ciarlante
Steven Bernstein
Connor Kennedy
Alexis P. Suter Lee
Falco Vito Pettrocitto
Jason Sarubbi Ray
Joe Grapone
Benny Beesmer
Monty Harrison DePew


Entered at Mon Jun 23 14:36:30 CEST 2014 from (174.89.93.38)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee Garth Hudson In Studio
Click on sidebars for various photos August 25, 2011

Thank you Ilkka. :-D

Haso...Every Band related show I've attended has been with a male except green eyed girl came with me to Rick Danko's Tribute in TO where the room was practically all filled with men. pretty little girl was supposed to attend who also posted here at one time but her visa hadn't come through so I asked someone else. When Richard Bell started the Genetic Method......men went crazy.

The former female posters who still communicate with me basically tell me that they've stopped posting here because of sexism, bullying, mean-spiritedness, personal attacks and don't have the energy to deal with the fall outs. They keep telling me to post but I can't seem to inspire them to do the same. The Dankettes who used to post here were great in that they'd post about their hero without making attacks on other band members or posters who supported them. I also communicate with some of them as well. Anyway, if you saw the other site you'd see that not many females posted there as well.


Entered at Mon Jun 23 13:51:06 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Thanks, Ian. I put one in the review. I've tidied up the recent reviews and added pictures to the American ones, including the West Helena gospel one. (Link to index page of my blog).


Entered at Mon Jun 23 01:34:41 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Mo Pitney at the Grand Ol' Opry - photo

For Peter:

https://www.facebook.com/MoPitneyOfficial


Entered at Sun Jun 22 22:31:57 CEST 2014 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Grand Ole Oprey

Review of Friday's Grand Ole Oprey linked.


Entered at Sun Jun 22 18:39:12 CEST 2014 from (96.232.159.74)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: James

James, I think that your post was info and opinions we could do without


Entered at Sun Jun 22 14:53:45 CEST 2014 from (64.229.245.196)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

“It was a good competitive game. We did our best and we had many other chances that could have produced goals,” Ghana coach James Appiah said. “Ghanaians have a strong mentality when it comes to football, to fight to the end no matter what is happening. Playing against Germany is difficult, especially when you are a goal down. So you have to have the right players with the right mentality on the pitch."


Entered at Sun Jun 22 14:31:26 CEST 2014 from (92.18.172.67)

Posted by:

James

Subject: Football

Pele said an African nation will win the World Cup before the year 2000? That has been proved wrong by at least 14 years! Having watched Ghana give a fine performance yesterday. I have still come to the conclusion that an African team won't win a World Cup in the next 20 years. I think the African teams don't have the mentality to win it like the Europeans or South Americans.


Entered at Sat Jun 21 12:09:11 CEST 2014 from (83.249.143.191)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Soccer

My link mainly to Brown Eyed Girl :-)


Entered at Sat Jun 21 03:21:39 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.158)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ah, that's why they won't let us play. Thanks Fred - I stand corrected (again).


Entered at Sat Jun 21 01:30:37 CEST 2014 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Canada wins..but not at soccer.

Bill M: The rest of the world is jealous because of: (a) our hockey prowess and (b) we can rightly lay claim to The Band being a Canadian band ---let's be honest Levon was a Canadian at heart. ; )

That's why don't qualify for the World Cup (except in '86)..we're too nice, we don't want to upset the rest of the world any further.


Entered at Fri Jun 20 18:51:41 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Canada remains unbeaten - if only because they won't let us play.


Entered at Fri Jun 20 16:50:38 CEST 2014 from (97.65.4.203)

Posted by:

Peter V

Well, Bill, this guy from Liverpool FC just about finished it for us!


Entered at Fri Jun 20 15:48:30 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Hey, how's the soccer going, guys?


Entered at Fri Jun 20 14:56:16 CEST 2014 from (97.65.4.203)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Gerry Goffin

Another one gone. It's starting to run at two a week. RIP.


Entered at Fri Jun 20 03:35:36 CEST 2014 from (76.28.98.146)

Posted by:

Haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: BEG, women on the GB

Finally a response to your entry from a week+ back. I certainly agree about the nature of internet dialogue; I'm guessing from many comments, here, it has often been quite vitriolic. I suppose it's the nature of the beast, hiding behind a keyboard and all that. Hopefully it's improving; mostly I see strongly-held beliefs on the Robbie/Levon deal and associated topics, such as Jon Taplin recently.

I wasn't sure who you were referencing as Butch and an old saw about who came to see the Dead vis-a-vis our subject. It certainly wouldn't have been just sex appeal, I would think. Recall the Hawk's original criteria... among others, they all have to look good. Not that I'm particularly a judge of male juju, but even my wife (who is distinctly meh about the Band) would probably agree w/ other women of our era that I've recently "indoctrinated" into all-things-Band, if you check that photo from the 5 cd compendium of them lounging outside in Zuma Beach, I believe, no doubt Robbie, Richard and Levon, at least still retain good looks, despite what was already hard-living of a few years by 1975. Anyway, I'd be curious if there was thought to be big differences in the gender make-up of fandom for various groups of those days.

And no, I can't get my spouse to weigh in; often she's of an opinion that nothing much of value happened in popular music once the Fab 4 broke up. And w/ my (also indocrinated) children, who are in their 30's, I'm quite sure my daughter more often listens to TLW or the Brown Album than her brother. Admittedly a small sample size.

Perhaps many women have a lot better things to do than try to wax eloquent here. Which isn't to besmirch your contributions; seems like you link us up to more found footage, etc. than anybody.

Peter V: good on ya for your pilgrammage state-side. Should you and yours ever find yourselves in New England, here's a standing invitation for a fresh home-made pie in southeastern NH.


Entered at Fri Jun 20 01:27:49 CEST 2014 from (97.65.4.203)

Posted by:

Peter V

Had a very happy spell in Third Man Records in Nashville today. Great T-shirt logo:"Vinyl is killing the MP3 Industry."

Apposite in the light of a report this morning that Jack White's Lazaretto has sold 168,000 in a week, 40,000 on vinyl!. More strength to him!

Has anyone ever nominated Levon for the Country Music Hall of Fame? Why not? I noticed in the record store in the Hall of Fame that Levon is classed as "Americana". But surely Dirt Farmer, Electric Dirt and Ramble at the Ryman, let alone American Son qualify.


Entered at Thu Jun 19 23:59:00 CEST 2014 from (72.213.210.175)

Posted by:

Johnny Z

Subject: Concert with the Cates Bros '83? '84?

Can anyone tell me the date of my second Band concert (post Robbie, with the Cates, without Levon (ill) in Destin, FL and a place called Nightown? I'll never forget Rick on a stool singing "Unfaithful Servant" with Richard on piano. I just don't know what the date was, or even the year.


Entered at Thu Jun 19 20:30:06 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Yes Bill M...In praise of Levon and The Hawks!!
I only have Levon and The Hawks Old Shoes recording. I still can't believe how Crabby and I were listening to The Hawks in Port Dover 1964 and said....nope.....terrible sound and didn't buy boot!

Levon And The Hawks - 1965-06-05 - Dallas
Levon And The Hawks
June 5th 1965
Dallas TX

In praise of the fantastic football (soccer) playing of the FIFA World Cup!!!!
I love how the players shake hands before each match....and although they trip each other up they mostly help each other back up. Yesterday's game however....Camaroon players fighting each other......not cool.

Garth and Maud show post is not new news but a reminder post to all out in Cali.


Entered at Thu Jun 19 18:32:23 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

BEG: Thanks for that fabulous link (repeated here) to all that Levon and the Hawks stuff. Wow! Much of it's totally new to me.

One thing that isn't is "What A Party" from Ronnie Hawkins' "Mojo Man" LP, his last for Roulette in the mid-'60s. Because there's so little guitar, and no lead, and Levon's not singing full-blast, I'm thinking that Levon's vocal was a placeholder, to be overdubbed later by Ronnie Hawkins - and that Robbie would have overdubbed some lead guitar work at the same time.


Entered at Thu Jun 19 17:26:16 CEST 2014 from (97.65.4.203)

Posted by:

Pete Vinyl

Browsing used record stores in the USA throws up a major difference. The vast majority of 45s are in new plain white sleeves or just in plastic bags. I'd put the percentage in company sleeves at little more than 10 - 15%. In Britain, the correct sleeve is an intrinsic part of a "mint" or "excellent" record. I've picked up so many iconic American 45s only to look and see them badly scuffed and worn to a degree where many British shops would discard them.

In Britain most 45s are in company sleeves, although at least half will be the wrong company and another 20% the wrong era for the company. So most British buyers kept discs in sleeves, even if they didn't match them. The answer came in Graceland. Elvis's 45 collection is there in three long rows in racks, all stored without sleeves. I have asked a few store owners, and I conclude that in the 50s and 60s, in relative terms to income, 45s were much cheaper in the USA, and so regarded as more disposable. Keeping records in sleeves stops them scuffing and scratching against each other. I spent an hour in one store cross checking, and nearly always discs still in the right company sleeves were in much better condition.

Am I right in concluding that 45s were less often stored in sleees in America?


Entered at Thu Jun 19 15:20:26 CEST 2014 from (97.65.4.203)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Al. Late 1961 / 1962 throws up all sorts of rarities as EMI and Pye were reorganzing their labels, and several records were pressed up on different labels. The main change was EMI scrapping Top Rank and starting Stateside, and discs appear on both. Also some EMI-Columbia blues and soul artists got shifted to Stateside.

Decca to Stateside is unusual for Darrel Banks, but EMI were trying to "poach" US labels that Decca had deals with, so it all sounds plausible to me. that something could be pressed then they could find the deal had shifted. It is though unusual for a London disc to be an inferior copy … collectors reckon London are the best pressings up to 1963 or 1964. There are also missing numbers in London catalogue lists.

That's more than most people want to know!


Entered at Thu Jun 19 14:19:42 CEST 2014 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Holy Grail of Northern Soul music found alive and well

Great story [linked] for all the avid record collectors on here including Pete Vinyl!!!

:-0)


Entered at Thu Jun 19 10:52:57 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Yes it's a blitz on Garth today!!

GARTH HUDSON (THE BAND . THE LAST WALTZ) FEATURING SISTER MAUD HUDSON

The 19th Annual Kate Wolf Festival 2014
June 27-29
Beautiful Black Oak Ranch
Laytonville, CA


Entered at Thu Jun 19 10:46:21 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

David Bray with Garth Hudson and Garth on accordion


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Trading Secret Hand Signals with Garth Hudson...Charlie Steiner Photo 14


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth Hudson...Young Town Museum


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Neil Young recording with Garth Hudson and The Sadies


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth Hudson and Richard Barone photo by Mick Rock


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth Hudson...2011


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth Hudson...Jason Creps Photography


Entered at Thu Jun 19 05:30:14 CEST 2014 from (97.65.4.203)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Horace Silver

RIP


Entered at Wed Jun 18 07:17:02 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon and The Hawks...including composing-tape, outtakes, song sketches and instrumentals.


Entered at Wed Jun 18 06:53:06 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Many thanks to ellind90 for many Levon and The Hawks to The Band shows all found in one link. Keep loading and loading......


Entered at Wed Jun 18 05:38:17 CEST 2014 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Mavis on TLW's The Weight


Entered at Wed Jun 18 04:26:44 CEST 2014 from (75.44.120.252)

Posted by:

Peter V

Wonderful day in Oxford culminating in rocking chairs on the porch listening to the birdsong and watching the fireflies as the sunset. I was told for years this was one of the most quintessential American towns and it is true. Food is glorious, people incredibly friendly. The magic of the South.


Entered at Wed Jun 18 03:00:52 CEST 2014 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

I believe the MFBP novella was optioned, but Robert Pattinson does not have anything like it scheduled--and his projects extend into 2016.


Entered at Wed Jun 18 00:25:57 CEST 2014 from (75.44.120.252)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: Oxford, Mississippi today

Subject: Band movie

We discussed this often, with me saying 'don't cast looks likes.' The people we selected first time we discussed it are now too old!

I would be looking at Inside Llewyn Davis and thinking, Oscar Isaacs and Justin Timberlake can both sing and are both very good at acting. Oscar for Richard because he does also look alike with a beard. Justin for either Rick or Robbie.


Entered at Tue Jun 17 22:04:11 CEST 2014 from (96.232.159.74)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Robbie ihro

or those not on Facebook . Robbie has now put up lyrics on his Webpage. He also said he has finished Chapter 13 on his book.


Entered at Tue Jun 17 21:51:25 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Androgynous vampireboy Robert Pattinson wants to bring his limited skills to a bio pic about The Band. Velvet Roper thinks he wants to play Rick Danko but would Pattinson be happy playing anyone but the beautiful Robbie Robertson? Of course we’d love to see a film about The Band but with Robert Pattinson as a lead? It’s like finding out you won a trip to Hawaii but the jet was being flown by a drunk monkey."


Entered at Tue Jun 17 21:48:23 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Amidst all the headlines and heartbreaks, British actor Robert Pattinson is set to star in a biopic about the legendary rock band, the Band. Nothing has been confirmed about which member he’ll play but judging by his “star” role, I’m sure Robbie Robertson will have Pattinson playing himself. The Band has an incredible history and they’re often cited as a main influence for many bands today, which position this movie to be as enticing as their 1978 farewell concert documentary, The Last Waltz, directed by Martin Scorsese.

As soon as all the dust from love affairs clear in Pattinson’s personal life, we look forward to hearing more about the production of the film about the 4 rock legends from Canada and the sweetest voice and backbeat south of the Mason-Dixon Line."


Entered at Tue Jun 17 21:41:09 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Probably news from a couple of years ago.


Entered at Tue Jun 17 19:42:43 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Mike D, is that something new or is that from a couple of years ago.


Entered at Tue Jun 17 19:38:09 CEST 2014 from (96.232.159.74)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Band movie

I have been hearing about the movie for quite some time, I hope it's not another "Bacon Fat...


Entered at Tue Jun 17 18:45:57 CEST 2014 from (129.42.208.183)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley NY

Subject: Avalon Archives

Hey Mike D, do you work with Ned on the Avalon Archives? You should post that great video of Ned walking through the rooms showing all the great musical treasures he's accumulated. I think everyone here would be interested. Ned is one of the best!


Entered at Tue Jun 17 18:32:34 CEST 2014 from (67.86.250.240)

Posted by:

Mike D.

Location: Avalon Archives Museum -Brewster NY

Subject: The Band Movie being produced

A new movie about The Band is in the works. According to IndieWire Robert Pattinson from the "Twilight" film will be playing Robbie Robertson."The script is about the nature of song writing." I pray that the Plot represents the Collective Nature of the creativity of Lee, Ricky, Richard, Garth and Robbie in creating their music. We do not want another full length altered version. Long Live The Band.


Entered at Tue Jun 17 15:57:10 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.152)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: It'll be difficult to comply with your request, but I'll do my best.

Joe J: How goes the flow of provincial politics in your part of the world these days? A drunkard's stream, I'd say.


Entered at Mon Jun 16 22:27:39 CEST 2014 from (67.84.78.153)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jed, i;vd been fortunate to see Kortchmar in a tiny room in NYC several times. With a killer band. Jonny Rosch on keys. The incomparable Brooklyn Bred Neil Jason on bass, Shawn Pelton on drums. Rosch and Kortchamr on vocals. Four hours of playing spread out over 5 or so hours, and to a room of anywhere bewteen 30 and 50 people. Playing their asses off and having a ball. Kortchmar is one bad ass guitar player. He's The Jewish guitar player version of Al Pacino, which is essentially the same as the Italian actor version of Danny Kortchmar, who is Al PAcino.


Entered at Mon Jun 16 19:38:13 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Tour 74 - Richard and Robbie - no toilet jokes, please

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_HfpuzR1Y-54/TT89zoW4aPI/AAAAAAAABp0/IYyVNNIjgZQ/Manuel%20Robertson%201974_thumb%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=800


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Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: And another


Entered at Mon Jun 16 19:24:43 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Watkins Glen photo

I suspect this is known by most GB-ers but not by me, so here it is, just in case:

http://www.robbie-robertson.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Watkins-Band-2.jpg


Entered at Mon Jun 16 19:00:36 CEST 2014 from (100.33.95.254)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Back to the Barn/Santana at Bethel

Spent a long weekend in Woodstock.Saturday night went back to the Barn for the first time since Levon passed to hear/see Jim Weider,Danny Kortchmar,and G.E. Smith do a night of telecaster music.Smallish crowd,but enthusiastic.I'm a big fan of Weiders playing and was surprised that the player with the best tone and most inventive leads was Kortchmar.The real highlight was Brian Mitchell on keys/vocals.On Sunday night we went to see/hear Santana at Bethel Woods-other than the small hassle of getting out of the parking lots the venue is beautiful and the sound is outstanding(last saw Dylan there).Santana put on a relatively short show but was mesmerizing.Enough can't be said about the quality of his playing.It was just so special.His band is world class and the percussion section is amazing.A very spiritual and thrilling evening at the old festival site!


Entered at Mon Jun 16 15:15:11 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Photo of Rick Danko poster I bought (smaller version) in Simcoe, Ontario for his Tribute. This poster myesteriously just......disappeared while trying to make a copy for Bonk. Sorry, I don't have the time to edit and enhance photo. I did see this photo on another site...another Rick Danko fan.


Entered at Mon Jun 16 14:55:15 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rick Danko Complete Songs Live at Tin Angel as well as many other recordings to check out.


Entered at Mon Jun 16 14:56:27 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

I took a picture of the Kookamonga burger billboard outside. I think it must take the record from the "Heart Attack Grill" in Las Vegas which competes with similar fare, and only sells "high tar cigarettes" to go with it.


Entered at Mon Jun 16 14:50:05 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Kooky Canuck Restaurant opened in 2005 in Memphis, TN. It is a family business owned by Shawn and Lana Danko. Its original name was the Big Foot Lodge. In 2008, a California-based restaurant ownership filed a trademark infringement lawsuit against the Danko's claiming that their concept of the log cabin design and a large Sasquatch statue were inappropriately used. To settle the lawsuit, Shawn and Lana Danko changed the name to Kooky Canuck.

The restaurant is located in downtown Memphis directly across the street from the Peabody Hotel.

Kookamonga Burger[edit] Kooky Canuck serves an especially large hamburger named the Kookamonga Burger; it provides 12,387 calories with 266.8g of fat. The Kookamonga Burger is 4 pounds (1.8 kg) of ground chuck, two pounds of their custom bun, and one and a half pounds of lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, onions, and cheese, totaling seven and a half pounds. It takes about 60 minutes to cook.

As of November 20, 2011, 3235 attempts to fully consume one had been made. Eight individuals had eaten 11 burgers in under 60 minutes. The restaurant did not charge the successful eaters.[citation needed] Kooky Canuck was featured on a segment of the TV program Man v. Food. Adam Richman, the host, unsuccessfully attempted the challenge."


Entered at Mon Jun 16 05:20:34 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

Seen in Memphis. "The Kooky Canuck" restaurant, "home of the four pound Kookamunga Burger." Above this Canadian restaurant is a huge banner with "Thanks for 9 Years - The Dankos."

Any relation?


Entered at Mon Jun 16 01:30:59 CEST 2014 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Sun's out. Life is good. Sunday drive around the islands with the missus with Jeff Newsome on the tape deck. Mussels and fish and chips at Sansome's Wharf.

Thinking of me own Dad. Fifty years a fisherman in a small open boat. Couldn't swim a stroke. Thick accent, would add and drop his aitches like "H'ime 'avin h'a drop h'of H'oil h'of H'Islay h'at 'ome.".

Probably wasn't a tape deck either.


Entered at Mon Jun 16 01:26:24 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Joyce Cobb

Third Riverboat review added: Joyce Cobb, the "Queen of Beale Street."


Entered at Sun Jun 15 17:31:01 CEST 2014 from (108.217.93.87)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: HAPPY DAD'S DAY!

Happy Father's Day to all the parents out there in GB land!


Entered at Sun Jun 15 16:55:53 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Platters

The Platters added too. Being next to Beale Street the drums only stop at 2 a.m. so reviews pass the time!


Entered at Sun Jun 15 16:51:57 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Preston Shannon

Review of Preston Shannon added see link.


Entered at Sun Jun 15 10:08:56 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Peter, you have to do an extended article when you get back to Old Blighty.


Entered at Sun Jun 15 05:49:16 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.146)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto
Web: My link

Peter V: Thanks for the field reports. Are you a battlefields person? They remind me too much of what people can do.

Carmen: Thanks - interesting.

Link is to an obscure local LP with a '69 cover of UoCC. Group leader had previously led Ernie Lyons and the Luv-Lites, with future Hawkins / Seatreain / Alison Krause drummer Larry Atamanuik.


Entered at Sun Jun 15 05:07:42 CEST 2014 from (24.199.71.83)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: Gospel in West Helena

Peter, thanks for that, sounds marvelous. Your description reminds me of the second verse of Robbie's Straight Down the Line...wonder if he based it on a similar (true) experience from that area? Will be interested to know how the concert CD you picked up works out.


Entered at Sun Jun 15 04:45:15 CEST 2014 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: pa
Web: My link

Subject: Arter Barron Amphitheater Washington DC July 17th CD - Import

Found this on CD Universe


Entered at Sun Jun 15 03:48:00 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: What a difference a day makes …

Odd. Friday night Beale Street seemed white conventioners and students swilling beer and awful. Saturday night seems large groups of African Americans dancing and it felt great … though we have retreated early. And one of the bands had a John Lee Hooker boogie going as a change from the interminable plodding B.B. King sound. I retract!


Entered at Sun Jun 15 03:34:03 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

See the Link Wray Toppermost (I can't do links off my iPad) for Mordicai Jones.


Entered at Sun Jun 15 01:39:08 CEST 2014 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: mordecai jones

Those of you who have Wray's 'Three Track Shack' should give another listen to 'Mordecai Jones' the probably overlooked of the three albums on this collection. This one may not have the highlights of the first two and it's not Wray singing (not a bad thing) but it takes the whole Indian/gospel thing as far as it's ever gone.

Anyway it's mid June but the temps still in single digits (plus) and the harbour is again full of ice including several massive bergs. What I would really like is to be able to have a dram on my back deck in my t-shirt. I want to be warm.



Entered at Sat Jun 14 23:33:10 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

Pat, just finished reading "Confederates in The Attic" on the boat, so Shiloh is on my mind. The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down gets two mentions in the book. Sun Studio was a much better tour than I'd expected. Fascinating to see they had "new but unsold since manufacture" copies of High School Confidential, probably the first picture sleeve 45 in the UK. It's $120 at Sun, and they must have 25 or 30 copies … obviously old.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 18:18:50 CEST 2014 from (74.179.56.51)

Posted by:

BWNWITenn

NWC, that Dylan guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He's a Yankee.

Shiloh is nice. For Civil War history, Carnton Plantation outside Nashville is very nice, and emotionally affecting, if you get a good tour guide, at least.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 17:14:46 CEST 2014 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Peter V, stop at the Shiloh battlefield. One of the most pristine Civil War sites in the country. You aren't far.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 16:12:00 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Gospel in West Helena

Here you are …

It was part of the "Gospel and Blues Tour" from the steamboat. Two coachloads of forty-two. We stopped outside the African-American Baptist Church in West Helena, Arkansas, and as we went in the choir were all singing. About sixteen local people, no gowns, but mostly people had on something red to look uniform. Some had kids with them. A fantastic drummer and keyboard player, and how nice to see a 19th century wooden church with a Lesley Speaker next to the pulpit.

I felt kind of voyeuristic at first, in that we were tourists with cameras, 95% white, being performed to in someone's community. But the pastor greeted us all with such enthusiasm, and said people had taken time out from their lives and jobs to sing for us. I guess the cruise line made a good contribution to church funds, plus there was a collection and we all must have bought a CD of a previous concert.

As soon as the second song started and we all started clapping hands it was all dispelled. There were three lead singers, and the main one had the most powerful deep, rich soul delivery I have ever heard. Great powerful drumming too, and the keyboard emphasizing the bass line. They switched vocalists, but then three numbers in the first vocalist came down to the floor with four singers. She did an improvised Amazing Grace, almost jazz gospel with such raucous power then four angelic voices behind. We were transfixed. Another change of singer had everyone on their feet clapping and swaying. One very elderly guy on a Zimmer frame insisted on being helped to his feet to sway and clap with the pastor beaming at him.

I can't wait to get home and put the CD on. It was so good to see the musical wealth of West Helena at first hand. No wonder Levon Helm knew how to sing with soul.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 15:26:07 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

We liked the Elvis personally tacky: the jungle room and the three TVs and the cars, and you have to see it. And we felt kind of moved watching the videos and walking through the meditation garden. But we didn't like waiting an hour to get on the bus across the street, and the whole industry surrounding the place was tacky in a crappy way. Why no vinyl in the gift stores? They had plenty of new vinyl on Beale Street. The piles of crap to Saint Elvis. Everyone we spoke to had him tipping everyone in every restaurant he ever went in with Cadillacs. His generosity was well-known and on a huge scale, but it has turned into the Miracle of the Loaves and the Cadillacs for the five thousand.

Mrs V described Beale Street as a kind of Disney "Main Street USA" for drunks. The music was generic. Worse, is the hotel (a Westin) has no laundry service on weekends and we had planned New Orleans, River cruise, get everything washed in Memphis for the second part. Whereas today is shopping for socks and boxer shorts.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 13:59:33 CEST 2014 from (124.25.163.226)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Web: My link

Subject: Peter V

Graceland may be tacky, but you wouldn't consider visiting Memphis without seeing it, would you? As always, there is a connection: At a recent Graceland exhibit a familiar instrument appeared, conflicting reports say it is from a) Elvis' upstairs office, or b) his Beverly Hills residence.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 12:48:13 CEST 2014 from (83.249.133.254)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Oxford Town

Former gb regular Tenn says: "Oxford Town is a nice little town." Former gb lurker Bob Dylan says: "Oxford Town, Oxford Town, ev'rybody's got their heads bowed down. The sun don 't shine above the ground. Ain't a-goin' down to Oxford Town."

Who can you trust? (Or maybe it is not the same Oxford Town?)


Entered at Sat Jun 14 12:35:39 CEST 2014 from (83.249.133.254)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Peter V's tour

Peter V seems to do _the_ trip we always dreamed to do ( Appalachians included, but we'll wait and see, maybe Peter will sing soon: "One hand around my babe and one hand around a whisky keg in Bowling Green, oh good ol' Bowling Green!".- According to his reports I am satisfied that we never did the trip. We quit our jobs for eighteen months and went to San Francisco with flowers in our hair instead. It was on Clinton-era before gb.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 09:12:31 CEST 2014 from (74.179.56.51)

Posted by:

BWNWITenn

Ha, yeah, well, that's Memphis for you. You can take some souvenir pictures of the armed guards they have in all the grocery stores. The word on the street is that you have to get some ribs at the Rendezvous, although the true necessity of that is debatable. I'd suggest checking out the Overton Park band shell, where Elvis made his first public performance, and all of the Memphis legends played at one point. Not much to see, but it has some history, and there's a decent zoo next to it. If you have a curious sense of history, the former pharmacy where Elvis got most of his prescriptions filled is a few blocks away at 1737 Madison Ave., and Dr. Nick's old office is still there right across the street. Sun Studios, of course, is a must-see, even though there's not much to it. There's a pretty nice history museum on Mud Island that's worth checking out. And the Pink Palace is, well, a way to kill some time. Memphis does make some pretty good sunsets, you have to give them credit for that. Maybe see if you can get on the roof patio of the Peabody Hotel and watch the sun set over the Mississippi. If you get truly bored, I thought Hot Springs, AR was pretty nice for outdoors activities, altough I was only there briefly.

Oxford is a nice little town. I assume you're going to Faulkner's house and grave, and Square Books. Check out the big white house a few blocks away that was supposedly his inspiration for the Compson house. I thought the Ajax Diner on the square was a fantastic meat and three, for a good Southern meal.

Let me know when you're in town, maybe we can say hello. My junk address for spam and deranged former Band associates is tennmichaels at hotmail dot com.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 05:01:06 CEST 2014 from (198.0.30.146)

Posted by:

Peter V

We are heading via Oxford to Nashville. We are extremely under-impressed with Memphis … just closed stores everywhere. Empty shop windows abound. Graceland is the tackiest thing I've ever seen. Stax is a total fake. Beale Street is (a) very short compared to Bourbon Street and (b) all three bands as we walked past were tedious B.B. King imitators. I always found B.B. King extremely dull compared to Muddy Waters or Howling Wolf on one hand, or soul on the other. We're really regretting booking three nights in Memphis. Just had one of the worst meals I've seen. We left it on the plate.

My conclusion so far is that it's a dump, though the people are universally friendly and polite.I'm reminded that all those blues greats got out and went to Chicago!


Entered at Sat Jun 14 04:47:30 CEST 2014 from (66.87.153.172)

Posted by:

BWNWITenn

Peter, are you heading over to Nashville?

Jeff, regardless of whatever one might think of Don Henley, he's fairly knowledgeable about his rights, for an artist, and has stood up for them admirably over the years on behalf of himself and other artists.


Entered at Sat Jun 14 03:03:48 CEST 2014 from (98.66.251.61)

Posted by:

Mike C

Subject: December '71

I saw the boys at the Baltimore Civic Center in December of 1971 (don't know the exact date). It was the 4th time around for me seeing them & there are two things that stand out in my memory about the show. It was not a sellout which was surprising to me then, & it was the first time I noticed some issues with Richard's voice. He was fairly strong in the first part of the show, but gradually grew more hoarse as the evening progressed.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 22:47:00 CEST 2014 from (162.213.113.107)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA
Web: My link

Subject: The Band Band

For those around Philly


Entered at Fri Jun 13 21:20:40 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Ian W piqued a thought. Checking out the tour history of the OQ it becomes obvious that they really didn't play that much and most of it was in the Northeast, Canada, and occasionally in CA. I can see why they were perceived as a local NY phenomenon.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 18:51:02 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Still filing - Nov 65 item

Report on the 6 Nov 65 Dylan show contains the following:

"LEVON & the HAWKS: strong staccato bass; organ and piano blurring into one complete whole; shrill harp and guitar rising above. WOW."


Entered at Fri Jun 13 18:17:33 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Peter, would love to hear more about that gospel concert. Sounds like a special experience.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 18:08:33 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: A "flux" perhaps

Just after my last post, I had to file something away from 1965 and what should I turn the page to find but a copy of a letter from Robin Denselow while at university ("Feature writer on CHERWELL", the Oxford University newspaper) to Dylan's concert promoter Tito Burns requesting an interview with Dylan. The reply came from Dylan's P.R. suggesting he attend a press conference that was being organised.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 18:00:41 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Robbie interview in THE GUARDIAN - 1978

Still wading myself through some "stuff" I've had stored awhile and found an interview with Robbie to publicise THE LAST WALTZ.

"Long Goodbye" by Robin Denselow (THE GUARDIAN, 22 July 1978) if anyone cares to follow it up.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 16:04:03 CEST 2014 from (50.130.43.135)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just landed in Memphis and though not in the pouring rain, it will be soon. Yesterday the 'blues' tour took in a Baptist church in West Helena with a 30 minute gospel concert which is among the ten best musical experiences of my entire life - all local choir raising funds for the church.

They managed to mention Levon 'a film actor and singer' who lived there at Cotton Scratch. I was the know it all who put up my hand and said 'Turkey Scratch.' They did not mention Sonny Boy nor King Biscuit.

The 'authentic delta blues show' in Clarkesdale was a white guy playing such authentic blues as Blue Suede Shoes, Stand By Me, and Red house!

But then last night was Joyce Cobb who was fantastic. I will review!


Entered at Fri Jun 13 15:57:35 CEST 2014 from (50.130.43.135)

Posted by:

Peter V

My old drama tutor used to say ' Shakespeare was not written by William Shakespeare, but by another person who was also called William Shakespeare and who was also born in Stratford upon Avon.'

Bill bryson's book correctly rubbishes all the ludicrous anti-Stratfordian arguments.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 13:51:57 CEST 2014 from (83.249.133.254)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Who wrote Shakespeare's plays?

The average gber may ask: "Has NWC drunk too much vodka for not to know where he is posting this to?" The answer is "no". This is mainly to cure Peter V's homesickness.

I listened to an English literature scientist the other week in the local University. He was a "stratfordian". He made his opponents, "anti-stratfordians", laughable. It made our eternal issue (What did Levon Helm wrote?) easier to understand. The argument from both sides was pretty the same. My message is simple: posters from British Commonwealth must have easier to deal with this kind of controversy.

Footnote: I am a "stratfordian", crucify me.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 12:13:34 CEST 2014 from (105.224.250.133)

Posted by:

Andre Priem

Location: South Africa

Subject: General

Hi RTO could you please send me your Email address as I have some more questions re your band with Brinsley Schwarz My email address is apriem@telkomsa.net


Entered at Fri Jun 13 08:59:35 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Pat B you may well be right but there are too many to choose from.

Ian W sounds like you are uncovering some great stuff. Interesting about the poor ticket sales in 71. I wonder if that is why they didn't tour for a while.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 02:33:05 CEST 2014 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Stan L, definitely some overdubs but GH only orchestrated his original solo. No edits. The raw track is online somewhere, maybe Wolfgang's Vault, and the comparison is instructive.


Entered at Fri Jun 13 00:05:00 CEST 2014 from (174.116.191.169)

Posted by:

Stan L

Location: Toronto

Subject: Garth - stage fright BTF

Pat B I most certainly agree ... I always thought that some of it might have been added after the fact in the studio... Then again we're talking about the best keyboard man in rock history so maybe I'm wrong.. His solo in the middle of the song is nothing to sneeze at either.


Entered at Thu Jun 12 22:07:04 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

The opening keyboard statement on Stage Fright from BTF is a peak Garth moment.


Entered at Thu Jun 12 21:26:44 CEST 2014 from (66.169.14.21)

Posted by:

Jimmy Nelson

Web: My link

Subject: Garth Hudson's best ever?

Was this Garth Hudson's single best performance ever on a Band track? I tend to agree ...


Entered at Thu Jun 12 17:54:21 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Another snippet

Please forgive my ignorance but I'm not sure off-hand whether this is well-known or not (and I don't have the time to divert and check it out).

A snippet in MELODY MAKER for 8 September 1979 gives "more on the Ronnie Hawkins album mentioned in this column recently". It says that three of the songs will be "My Babe", "Sick & Tired" and "Blue Moon of Kentucky", that "Robbie Robertson was responsible for two of the songs" and that there may be some Dylan material. It also says that James Burton shares lead guitar with Robbie and that Paul Butterfield plays harp.


Entered at Thu Jun 12 14:39:52 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.130)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: Thanks for almost singlehandedly rousing us from our collective snooze. I, a veteran, am impressed, so our new chum from Jakarta must be over the moon.

Interesting about the touring troubles of late '71 - a situation that does not reflect well on the concert-going masses of the time. Some internal stuff too: if Grossman wasn't making the business decisions, who was?


Entered at Thu Jun 12 14:22:30 CEST 2014 from (63.110.126.131)

Posted by:

Peter v

Just waiting for the boat to dock in Helena. No mention of Sonny Boy or King Biscuit in any of the literature on it.


Entered at Thu Jun 12 11:03:06 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Another ancient item in the file

I have come across a 1976 newspaper advert for "The Sunday Break II", part of "Lake Austin Labor Day Weekend, Sept.5". The performers are: The Band, Chicago, England Dan/John Coley, Firefall, Fleetwood Mac and The Steve Miller Band.


Entered at Thu Jun 12 07:57:34 CEST 2014 from (67.87.216.107)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: I agree with Don Henley

Intellectual Property is totally endangered in this new world. This short article about Henley and the Eagles recent experiences is an unfortunate but important read.


Entered at Thu Jun 12 02:01:09 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: "Danko's On The Loose!"

Still trying to sort some old articles and I came across this one:-

"Danko's On The Loose!" by Radio Pete ROCKET, July 1978 (pp 73 and 84)

It has some interview quotes from an interview with "Radio Pete".

There's a photo of Rick with Leo Sayer, The Hawk and four others.

Can anyone twll me anything about this?


Entered at Thu Jun 12 00:53:31 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Band shows in 1971

In the 6 January 1972 issue of ROLLING STONE, which was printed on 14 December 1971 and also contains a Ralph Gleason article on The Band, there is an entry in the RANDOM NOTES column.

In summary: The Band was not selling well. Boston Gardens was two-thirds empty and Philadelphia was considered a good date at half full. As The Band promoted the tour themselves, they were losing money. It is said their audience don't like big venues and manager Grodssman wants them to play smaller venues.


Entered at Wed Jun 11 22:23:48 CEST 2014 from (76.69.139.175)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Silence

The silence is deafening! Perhaps we should be discussing the new music from Felice Brothers and Jack White.

We saw Destroyer (Dan Behar) late in May 2014 in Victoria and once again he was excellent. Highly regarded by us and by the critics. Check him out. I think I'll do a Toppermost on him.


Entered at Tue Jun 10 15:38:58 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno
Web: My link

Subject: Daniel Lanois

There's a big tribute to Lanois show here this evening (Emmylou Harris, Wainwrights, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Peter Gabriel it seems, ...) Here's a link to an article in today's paper about him and the event. Interesting that Kevin Drew of Broken Social Scene cites Parachute Club's "Rise Up" as the place to go to hear what became Lanois signature sound.


Entered at Mon Jun 9 23:50:34 CEST 2014 from (192.0.208.216)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Guestbook get together

Finally got to meet BEG and friends Saturday night at the old Dominion Hotel in lower Cabbagetown where Paul James was playing. She's an absolutely great lady whose energy rubs off on everyone. I think I'm on information overload! Man, did we get up to some fun. (but what happens in Cabbagetown, stays in Cabbagetown!)


Entered at Mon Jun 9 15:36:19 CEST 2014 from (63.110.126.131)

Posted by:

Peter v

Location: Just south of Natchez

Subject: Robert E Lee

Life on the Mississpi. Just looking at the old posters on the boat. One is of the 1870 race from New Orleans to St Louis, won by the Robert E Lee in a race against the steamboat Natchez. It was an event that had people lining up to watch. Five years after the war - And there goes the Robert E Lee.

The captain of the Robert E Lee was one William Cannon.

Also after the river lore lecture I now know the difference between a tow and a tug, and that a tow pushes, not pulls. Just saw a 48 barge tow.


Entered at Mon Jun 9 14:45:02 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: not the phil collins

As tipped by NWC, the Bob Dylan portrait pastels . . . .


Entered at Mon Jun 9 00:59:23 CEST 2014 from (68.171.246.156)

Posted by:

Dr Thompson Gaba

Subject: Producers

Mr Rockin Chair: Stop calling me Baby!!


Entered at Mon Jun 9 00:17:16 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I put a spell on you........baby!

You better stop all the things that you do, You better stop all your foolin' 'round, I put a spell on you.........because yer mine.........


Entered at Sun Jun 8 19:36:32 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: handing with the turtles

Subject: Spectacle on Sky Arts

BEG, I first watched The Weight, then went to the other whole show link. I watched from the beginning at first, having forgotten about the introduction where Elvis C sings an explanation of the show's "build a band" concept, to the tune of Rag Mama Rag. I had limited time to watch the show and I got greedy. I tried to skip ahead to the song Tennessee Jed, remembering how cool it was with Larry Campbell on fiddle and Richard Thompson on guitar playing off each other. At that point I was penalized by the internet music thing of having the show stop, and make me sit through 5-6 commercials. When it came back on, it was the beginning of the show again. So, the next time out, I'll just have to watch it from the beginning, rather than looking for particular gems out of order. They appear to have found a way to make you pay the freight for this one. I used to have the show on my DVR, but lost it when we changed cable suppliers, so, having to abide by this inconvenience is a small price to pay. Once again, thanks for for your dogged efforts in finding gems like this. You truly enrich "this thang of ours" with your finds.


Entered at Sun Jun 8 10:12:36 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

I prefer TLW version of Coyote to the original. As good a player as Jaco was he tended to over play at times. Maybe that was is brief though. Joni's performance is almost identical. It is one of my favourite "guest" songs.


Entered at Sun Jun 8 07:10:56 CEST 2014 from (173.3.49.170)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: King Crimson Tour

See the link


Entered at Sun Jun 8 02:21:09 CEST 2014 from (125.2.203.117)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: Joni

Peter: Coyote turned out OK, but anyone who had heard her album version can imagine how many compromises she must have made, in her mind, to her original freeform vision. The Band's version was a necessarily conservative effort, elevated - saved, even - by Garth's detailed and descriptive organ/synth parts. However, these were crafted months later in Geordie Hormel's home studio, I don't think any of Garth's original tracks are discernible in that particular song. Shadows and Light was under-rehearsed, and Furry included only Robbie and Neil Young. Agreed, a very strange set by someone asking for trouble, considering the rehearsal schedule, and thinking she would look clever. Still casting a retrospective vote for Raised on Robbery...


Entered at Sat Jun 7 19:56:25 CEST 2014 from (83.249.143.62)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Ooops!

Sorry, made with _pastel_, not painted.


Entered at Sat Jun 7 19:51:01 CEST 2014 from (83.249.143.62)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Bob Dylan as a painter

Finally, FINALLY, I have seen something which other gbers (propably and hopefully) haven't: Levon's portrait painted by Bob Dylan. Not bad, huh? - Dylan is showing his 'Face value series' (character sketches representing different emotions and attitudes) in Frederiksborg Castle in Denmark. Real and unreal faces, just like in his music. Fictive titles and names on characters. "Levon's" title was 'Blue in the face', looking sideways, angry eyes, colour setting familiar from Brown album: grey, brown and black.


Entered at Sat Jun 7 19:38:04 CEST 2014 from (66.210.226.154)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Joni

Levon was right when he commented that Joni killed the momentum of the show at TLW and that Van brought it back on track. You can hear it on the complete show, and frankly the two songs apart from Coyote were dire. I don't think The Band did manage to back her properly apart from Coyote which was fantastic and probably the one they worked on.

Wasn't the three songs to equate her with Dylan? In which case, her ego was at fault. Her choices were deeply misguided as I have said many times. Basically it was a day for Big Yellow Taxi and Coyote and get off. If not Big yellow Taxi, it had to be Chelsea Morning or Both Sides Now.


Entered at Sat Jun 7 15:54:33 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

OUCH Kerrin..."Seated in the center of the studio alongside Richard and facing Robbie, Joni Mitchell was rehearsing the three tunes she'd chosen to play at The Last Waltz. She picked at the strings with the smooth, effortless confidence that has made her so good that many musicians don't want to play with her; their fear is that, in the company of Mitchell and her satin accuracy, they'll sound sloppy.

The Band intended to back Joni as she'd seldom been backed before. To guarantee their success, they had composer/musicologist John Simon sit alone in a corner of the studio and transcribe the session onto sheets of paper. He'd later compose arrangements that would bridge any gaps, cancel any flaws. He'd also write in parts for a horn section.

The rehearsal lasted three hours, with Joni leaving unconvinced that The Band could play behind her properly. But by the time she returned for a second session on Monday night, John Simon had already written and rehearsed his musical arrangements with The Band. They played her music brilliantly, following her lead, maintaining her sound."

You're so welcome Peter M. Were you able to access the entire show that night or only the "The Weight"? I would watch Elvis' Spectacle every Friday night.

Reposting of DIGITAL ARCHIVES | Apr 14, 1978 | 12:25
Robbie Robertson, Martin Scorsese and The Last Waltz
The musician and the director explain how they got together to make a film about the final 1976 performance by The Band.

Haso...Why not very many female Band fans here and at some shows? I'm not really sure. I know at the Tribute for Rick Danko in Simcoe, Ontario there were just as many women as men. When I attended the Tribute for Rick Danko in Toronto at the Horseshoe Tavern......noooooooo.......hardly any women at all. As far as Guest Book sites......You have to have a thick skin because people can say anything they want behind a computer screen. It's interesting that some don't want to be seen in "real" life at all. I guess then the mystery will be gone.....fantasy really. If you want to make it real you have to meet in person. The posted video of Butch said it all when he said that they'd joke about how the Band brought the men but the Dead brought the women to their shows. Any thoughts from others here?

Last call for any Toronto posters who would like to meet up for dinner and Paul James at the Dominion. I'm looking forward to meeting Bonk from this site so that I can put a face to a name. The fact that he's lived in my hood will make things interesting....lol.....What is disappointing to me however is that after I saw the film "Belle" yesterday I went into a drug store to try and make a copy of the Rick Danko collage poster I bought in Simcoe for Bonk. There were problems with the machine and I didn't like the print for Bonk so I made a print of a wedding where I was a flower girl when I was around five or six years old. I left the store and then......I realized that my poster wasn't in my bag!!!!!!! I have no idea how it happened but my original poster is lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was keeping it to make a copy as well for Carol (Rick's friend and publicist) who is the finest Dankette ever. I have a photo of the original large signed poster but I no longer have my original smaller version of the Rick Danko collage poster. My partner suggested that I should go back to the store and see if they have any camera footage as some thought someone probably took the poster while all the commotion was going on. I tried to explain how much this poster meant to me and they didn't know who The Band or Rick Danko was until I sang a bit of "TW"...lol........Sorry Bonk I tried. :-((((((


Entered at Sat Jun 7 13:02:08 CEST 2014 from (125.2.203.117)

Posted by:

Kerrin

Subject: Rod

It's almost certain that The Weight, at least, was filmed. It's inclusion in the movie was so important that, having been unhappy with the concert take for reasons musical or technical, the soundstage version was filmed six months later. Levon mentioned that song in TWOF as coming too late in the show, and their voices were flogged and they weren't happy with the performance. I must admit, when TLW Special Edition DVD specifically says (of Jam 2) THIS IS THE ONLY ARCHIVAL FOOTAGE REMAINING or whatever the exact words were, I thought they were trying to throw fans off the scent. Leave us alone, don't even ask. Well, I agree with Rod, there has to be more.

Most of the major acts got two songs, Young, Clapton, Morrison etc. Joni probably had enough of an ego to ask for three, maybe even to demand it. I think it's odd that she was so insistent on promoting Hejira, her current offering, that something like Furry Sings The Blues was included but most of The Band were asked to take a breather. Even Coyote...the one Band connection, or the obvious one, was that Robbie had played on Raised on Robbery, which was a decent rocker with much radio success. Why she couldn't play that I don't know, and other things like Free Man In Paris come to mind as suiting The Band's accompaniment. Instead she apparently "expressed concern" that they were not up to interpreting her latest jazz-rock explorations. I love Joni, but frankly at that time I think she had her head up her own arse insisting that everyone applaud her artistic superiority.


Entered at Sat Jun 7 11:58:31 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: The Turtle Pond

Subject: Huge thanks BEG !

Angie, your posting of Spectacle brought back so many memories for me. It was our 25th anniversary, a week spent in NYC, the most vibrant city on the planet. The tickets for the show were a surprise for the woman I've loved since 1969, and almost didn't happen. I'd registered for them on the net, but couldn't print them in New York on our tablet computer. Someone from the production company took pity on me and let us in nonetheless. We're hardcore fans of Nick Lowe and Richard Thompson, and it was a hoot to see them all honor Lee in such fashion that night. Elvis C was charming, Allen Toussaint was his elegant self, telling the story of writing the Rock of Ages charts (twice!!). And we got to see Steve Buscemi getting choked up over Levon's accomplishments in one of the front rows. The performance was Spectacular with Larry holding down all the details. Love for Levon was indeed in the air that night. I SO appreciate the link, allowing us to re-experience such a monumental night! Your dogged persistence is impressive. Thanks, luv.


Entered at Sat Jun 7 09:32:55 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: TLW

Just been listening to the Rhino re-issue of TLW box set tonight. It made me think of a comment by Martin Scorsese in the DVD re-release. He said that there were certain songs that had to be filmed. I'm thinking that The Weight, King Harvest, Carnival and maybe Driftwood. Stage Fright was probably important in the context of the film. Ophelia and The Shape I'm In maybe less so. I can understand why they chose what they did. Ophelia and Shape are better performances than the omitted songs. But failing technical issues wouldn't they have filmed the others? If so are there out takes available? Given that there seems to be stuff re-surfacing from The Festival Express surelt a professional operator like Scorsese would ensure the left overs were preserved "just in case"?

Also, why did Joni Mitchell get three songs - almost as many as Dylan? I like her songs but Neil Diamond had as much relevance to The Band as she did (ignoring friendships). Tin Pan Alley (Solitary Man, Red Red Wine.) There's an early song of his, Some Day Baby, that almost sounds like The Hawks are backing him.


Entered at Sat Jun 7 03:20:36 CEST 2014 from (99.141.57.210)

Posted by:

Adam

Jon-

saw Levon play "Kingfish" and 5 other ELECTRIC DIRT songs at the Chicago Theatre, June 2009, 2nd row. One of the greatest musical experiences of my life!


Entered at Sat Jun 7 02:29:40 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Geri Miller

Picking my way through some old files today, I came across something about Geri Miller, a dancer.

"My whole career started as one of those twisters at the Peppermint Lounge. I have photos of me with Ringo Starr, Alan Price, Lenny of the Dave Clark Five etc. I also have a photo of myself and another dancer in front of drums that say 'Levon Helm'. He played at the Peppermint and was known as 'Levon and the Hawks'. Now they are called The Band".


Entered at Fri Jun 6 21:06:37 CEST 2014 from (184.179.126.50)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Kingfish

The song hovered around The Band a while … as well as Dallas 1986, there's the New Orleans show from 1987 where they did Kingfish AND Louisiana 1927. Kingfish crops up again in Tokyo in 1994. It was odd that it was done so rarely- great song, it suited Levon's voice too.


Entered at Fri Jun 6 20:38:44 CEST 2014 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: And there there's Randy's "Short People" - no body and nobody. No buddy?


Entered at Fri Jun 6 16:44:03 CEST 2014 from (24.161.13.96)

Posted by:

Dennis

Location: West Saugerties

On January 6th, 1986, The Band was performing at the Hot and Cool Club down in Dallas, Texas. Listening to the show, Levon's a tad tipsy from New Year's toasting, and all the boys are fighting with the lighting crew to turn down the lights.

Levon gets carried away on The Kingfish and uses some words he may have come to regret at a later date.....the best Kingfish, sung by either Newman or Helm, I've yet heard.

SEBASTIAN, ADAM, et al, on my wish list would be one central repository for live recordings, legal or not, where world wide listeners could upload all the gems currently wasting away in damp cellars. Something long lasting, akin to Jim Weider's or the Grateful Dead Wiki archives


Entered at Fri Jun 6 16:25:16 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: it can't happen here

I never thought Levon's "Kingfish" sounded very ironic . . . I can imagine him being annoyed with R. Newman's condescension in e.g. "My Old Kentucky Home." Who was it suggested "The Crackers" as a band name?

Link to the song about O. Moseley.


Entered at Fri Jun 6 16:13:27 CEST 2014 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Kingfish

I adore Levon's version of Kingfish. Always wished I could have heard that one live; I'm sure he and his band would have killed it. There's a taste of him doing a stripped-down version in that Ain't In It For My Health clip (linked).

For me the tip-off about the song narrator's reliability is in the first verse... remember that he starts off ranting about the untrustworthiness of 'Frenchmen' before he even gets around to the subject of the song. Hard for me to hear an entirely straight reading of the rest once the stage has been set like that.


Entered at Fri Jun 6 15:24:02 CEST 2014 from (184.179.126.50)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: All The King's Men

Kingfish

We ate in a restaurant called Kingfish last night (I recommend it) and given the huge choice in New Orleans, it was the name that grabbed me. Big picture of 'The Kingfish' Huey Long on the wall. We were discussing the merits of Levon's version during the meal. Randy Newman is all about irony. Levon's version sounds straight and sincere because he has the perfect voice for it, which is, I guess, more ironic in acting the part of the singer / narrator even better than Newman. I annoyed people here years ago by asking whether Levon's version was ironic at all.

Huey Long was a major part of a politics option I took an appallingly long time ago, along with Father Coughlan, Oswald Moseley and Mussolini. There were parallels with Mussolini on the "introduced good roads" aspect and 'Robin Hood' aspect among others. The slant of the option was on why fascism failed to take off in the USA and UK. It's a mild surprise to see a Huey Long Expressway, so maybe the connotations are still positive here.

I'm typing with a very uncharacteristic hangover, not that I drank more than normal, but I drank California Chardonnay which I have avoided for years as 'instant hangover' provider along the lines of sake.


Entered at Fri Jun 6 14:31:20 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: green and pleasant land III


Entered at Fri Jun 6 12:47:33 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


Entered at Fri Jun 6 12:46:48 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

LEVON HELM – Drums

"The Band’s music seems both timeless and strange. I suppose you might call it simultaneously arcane and familiar. The precision songwriting was animated by five unique instrumentalists and inhabited by three remarkable vocalists.

All kinds of musicians have tried to take a similar approach; a few of them have shared the SPECTACLE stage. But no one I can think of ever released anything of equal results – though a lot of fine music was created in the attempt.

The Band’s music doesn’t acknowledge borders. Perhaps this explains how the work of a group containing four Ontarians came to be so identified with the American South.

Through the benefit of hindsight, it’s possible to see that a lot of The Band’s old world mischief and easy authority came from a son of Arkansas who sat at the drum chair.

“The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” – from The Band (1969)

This rightly famous performance contains just about everything that is great about The Band, framing Levon’s heartbreaking vocal with the superb commentary of his own rhythmic press rolls and military drum fills. Even though your head tells you that this was a record made in the second half of the 20th century, it also creates the illusion that this music could be beaming in from the era described in the lyric.

“Life Is A Carnival” – from Cahoots (1971)

While writing of my unique experience of sitting in at a snowbound “Midnight Ramble” show, I was trying to describe Levon’s playing. Words never really do justice to music, so the closest I could get to explaining the magical effect of Levon escaping a tight musical corner with a remarkable drum fill was by saying that he played, “Like a tap-dancer in a rapidly flooding room.”

During the SPECTACLE gathering, Allen Toussaint gives a pretty good account of the impact of hearing Levon’s idiosyncratic playing upon his superb horn arrangement for this track. The combined talents create a kind of funk that can’t be duplicated.

Levon Helm, “Kingfish” – from Electric Dirt (2009)

The first time I heard Levon’s rendition of Randy Newman’s great song, it seemed impossible that this version had not existed until now. It is an absolutely perfect song for Levon to sing.

Following the wonderful Dirt Farmer, this album is the rock ‘n’ roll record that I’ve wanted to hear from Levon since seeing him and Rick Danko playing at New York’s Lone Star Café in the 1980s.

Levon’s recovery from throat cancer brought an increased workload which has temporarily caused him to take a vocal rest. He only played drums on his SPECTACLE appearance – if it could ever be said that he only plays drums. No question, though: the vocal performances on “Kingfish” and throughout Electric Dirt are among the finest that he has ever put on tape. I hope that there are even more to come."


Entered at Fri Jun 6 12:41:05 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For those of you who missed the entire show with Elvis Costello and Levon try this link. It doesn't work in Canada but may in the States? Other countries?

Solomon: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! I thoroughly enjoyed all the performers at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year thanks to your link......and then it was removed. I was groovin, smilin', cryin', lovin' every moment. It was so special to see "Cat" perform as he is one of the few artists I never had the chance to see. It was a beautiful moment when he talked about his Swedish mom. I now really get Nirvana thanks to all the musicians who brought his work to life again such as Joan Jett, Kim Gordon and Lorde and.....I don't know the other performer? Now if Tom Morello can be Kiss' biggest cheerleader then there had to be something about Kiss.....The E Street Band......I miss their early work......There was an intensity and energy and innocense but I guess we all have to evolve.....somewhat. Thanks again Solomon as we don't have access to the US channel. The one time we were in Woodstock and I think one night we stayed in Colgate? We were able to see Robbie with B.B. King and Buddy Guy perform at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Anyway, even some of the acts that were inducted who I thought I would skip over.....nope...... :-D

Spectacle: Elvis Costello with... series page at Hulu.com
Joining Elvis for this once in a lifetime jam session are his former record producer Nick Lowe on bass, legendary New Orleans producer/pianist Allen Toussaint, UK guitar giant Richard Thompson, and to complete his band, from The Band, drummer Levon Helm.

Capture date : 09-11-10
Publication date : 13-08-27
Duration : 49:31
Category : Music


Entered at Fri Jun 6 10:01:11 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

New Orleans and New York are two places I'd love to go - for the obvious reasons. Been to Paris and London and would like to revisit them as well.


Entered at Fri Jun 6 01:04:42 CEST 2014 from (184.179.126.50)

Posted by:

Peter V

Many thanks. We mentioned it in a store today and they said 'Wait till Mardi Gras. The Baptists are outsiide with crosses and bullhorns.'


Entered at Thu Jun 5 19:07:58 CEST 2014 from (67.167.98.19)

Posted by:

Tom G

Location: Oak Park, IL

Subject: Peter V/Bourbon St.

Peter, I'm a native New Orleanian (and GB lurker) and as far back as I can remember Bourbon St. has been a destination for fundamentalist Christians wanting to convert the heathens in their den of iniquity. I remember one guy very clearly who had the whole Jesus get-up on with beard, long hair, robe & crown of thorns who would stand silently with a sign saying "Repent!" I'm not sure if the guys you saw were of that ilk, but it's a good bet. It's part of what makes the Quarter interesting.


Entered at Thu Jun 5 15:02:34 CEST 2014 from (184.179.126.50)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: In New Orleans
Web: My link

Short piece on Culture Shock in Bourbon Street, New Orleans on my blog … see link. The shock wasn't mine. Any theories on what was happening?


Entered at Wed Jun 4 21:44:30 CEST 2014 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: green and pleasant land II


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: green and pleasant land I


Entered at Wed Jun 4 12:54:18 CEST 2014 from (92.18.211.234)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: Sky Arts

I think the best and cheapest way to get Sky Arts is to pay £5 a month and stream ten Sky channels at nowtv.com. It looks like they decided to try and compete with Netflix and Amazon Instant Video with a similar monthly charge.

Above link - Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame 2014 Induction Ceremony. I might give it a view tonight.

Roger - YES! I hail from this green and pleasant land.


Entered at Wed Jun 4 09:23:44 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Sky Arts

With apologies to those who know already, the link gives a bit of background about the Sky Arts channel.

For a while, there was a single Sky Arts channel covering the full spectrum of cultural content. With the split into Sky Arts 1 and Sky Arts 2, the former now shows more popular "arts" content and the latter more "classical" content. Mostly, they broadcast existing material but, in more recent times, there has been some original content. too.


Entered at Wed Jun 4 02:15:23 CEST 2014 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

BEG: Nice catch, that Debbie Fleming stuff. Bill Cudmore, in one of the shots, later, as keyboardist / auxilliary saxist in Robbie Lane and the Disciples, replaced Garth on the Hawkins bandstand. Bill and Debbie's little New Toronto group also included singer Jay Smith, who was also a regular guest singer with Hawkins and our guys, and went on to be the main auxilliary vocalist in the version of the Hawks that replaced the Disciples - including Debbie's husband Gord, Sandy Konikoff, Bobby Starr (replaced by John Till), Buddy Cage for a time ...

JT: I saw Till (and Eugene 'Jay' Smith) at a birthday pary the other day. John confirmed that it was Richard Bell (and not Gord Fleming) on kb on Hawkins' nutso "Mary Jane". Produced by Brian Ahern with Bob Boucher (first Jesse Winchester LP) on bass, Till on gtr, Larry Atamanuik on drms, Richard 'King Biscuit Boy' Newell on harp.

BEG: a couple nights earlier I attended a tribute to reggae / R&B singer Jay Douglas, who recorded the first local Marley cover in '67. Got talking to a young trombonist - the Heavyweight Jazz Band - that Jay'd recorded with. Three days later the same guy wanders in to the place where the birthday party was. I say, basically, "Hi, are you gys playing?". He says no, he's rehearsing with a new side project a community brass band open to whoever. Half an hour later, we look over as we're leaving to see him inviting the trumpeter fromm the very early days of the Revols (with Richard Manuel and John Till) to feel free to join said community braSs band. And the beat goes on!!


Entered at Wed Jun 4 01:55:13 CEST 2014 from (86.160.31.40)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Sky and Spectacle

Right Peter M. Spectacle is the show. For Jed - Sky Arts is a Brit TV channel and they recycle the Elvis Costello series of Spectacle. I can't remember whether Peter M gave a date but I'd guess they we're made around 2008/9.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Debbie & the Hawks

Great pix, Angie.


Entered at Tue Jun 3 18:34:47 CEST 2014 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Peter M, fantastic. Great TV.


Entered at Tue Jun 3 18:27:27 CEST 2014 from (100.34.37.27)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: The Turtle Pond

Subject: Elvis Costello show

I'm not familiar with the name Sky Arts, but there was a series on cable called Spectacle. Sept 2009 my wife and I spent a week in NYC for our 25th anniversary. I surprised her with tickets for the taping of the show. It was taped at the Apollo Theater and Elvis Costello hosted and brought out various guests, adding them to the stage band. Levon was the focus of the show, as Nick Lowe came out, told Levon stories and played, followed by Richard Thompson. They spoke of The Band's influence on them. Allen Toussaint was persuaded to tell the story of writing the charts for the Rock of Ages show, losing them in a cab, and rewriting them. The finale was Ray LaMontaigne guesting on vocals for The Weight. The best part was watching Elvis and Levon confer for a moment, and then tell the audience that they were not quite satisfied with The Weight, could they do it again for take two? Carumba, a magical night.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: What is SKY ARTS 1 and where can it be found?


Entered at Tue Jun 3 17:31:55 CEST 2014 from (86.160.31.40)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Levon on SKY ARTS 1

Thanks Solomon. I've watched it before and keep a recording. It's great and Levon gets the respect he deserves. Someone from the GB was at the recording I believe but I can't remember who. Step forward please.

And Solomon - another Brit on the GB!?


Entered at Tue Jun 3 17:17:17 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Debbie Fleming

"Rock and Roll had just taken the world by storm when Debbie discovered her singing voice. She began singing with a small combo, The Starfires, while still in high school, which played the current hits for sock hops and church dances. She experienced an epiphany when she discovered the infectious grooves and funk of Ronnie Hawkins and The Hawks (including Levon Helm and Robbie Robertson, who later became The Band). Debbie began to be a featured guest singer with that band during matinees at Toronto’s Concord Tavern(now Long and McQuade). At that time, Ronnie Hawkins, recognizing her talent, asked her to go on the road with him and the band as a backup singer. Debbie chose to go to McMaster University instead, and during her time in Hamilton began exploring choral singing with the McMaster choir, as well as fronting a dance band on weekends. It was at McMaster when she was introduced to the wonders of Jazz – Ella, Charlie Parker, Horace Silver, et al."

"Debbie and The Hawks – Rebel Payne(bass); Stan Szelest(piano); Robbie Robertson(guitar);The Starlighters(BG’s)& Levon Helm on drums"

"Willard “Pop” Jones and Robbie (Jamie) Robertson in 1960"


Entered at Tue Jun 3 15:39:54 CEST 2014 from (92.18.201.177)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Levon on Sky Arts 1

Elvis Costello meets these sensational singer-songwriters and instrumentalists who offer fantastic anecdotes and performances. It's a repeat and is being shown on Wednesday at 10:30 am.


Entered at Tue Jun 3 05:40:36 CEST 2014 from (69.253.124.118)

Posted by:

Ben Pike, I've missed you most of all. :)


Entered at Tue Jun 3 04:43:38 CEST 2014 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Go Go Mania

Right now on Turner Classic Movies. It's a review of the best of the Brits circa 1964/65 - pretty dang kookie - Matt Monro! Some good clips of the Spencer Davis Group with the 16 year old Ray Charles in Stevie Winwood! Sounds Incorporated?? Nashville Teens doing Tobacco Road on haystacks!


Entered at Mon Jun 2 14:31:03 CEST 2014 from (174.89.36.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Congrats to Butch Dener! :-D

Too bad you weren't able to be with Levon and The Barnburners in Toronto at the Silver Dollar with Amy Helm and Jeff Healey's Club.....sooooo much fun and electricity in the room.....but then you already know that!


Entered at Mon Jun 2 14:29:26 CEST 2014 from (162.213.113.107)

Posted by:

carmen

Location: PA
Web: My link

Subject: Bobby Charles and BAND

Article from Uncut - this should interest everyone here.


Entered at Mon Jun 2 11:31:19 CEST 2014 from (80.3.71.216)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie and Sonny Boy Williamson # II

Don't know if this has been posted before: http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/05/25/robbie-robertson-jim-mccarty-remember-the-legend-of-sonny-boy-williamson-ii/


Entered at Mon Jun 2 04:45:43 CEST 2014 from (67.83.171.31)

Posted by:

Ray

Web: My link

Subject: HoF

Congratulations a million times over to Butch Dener on his induction into the New York Blues Hall of Fame as the Road Manager for "The Band" and "Levon Helm and the Barnburners." It's great to see a loyal and trustworthy guy like Butch get his props... way to go Butch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkDB-vy6juE&feature=youtu.be


Entered at Sun Jun 1 23:58:41 CEST 2014 from (208.36.99.35)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rhumba Man

Yes, John Simon mentioned it. As far as I know it's never appeared on the various tapes circulating.


Entered at Sun Jun 1 17:59:00 CEST 2014 from (24.199.71.83)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Rhumba Man

Peter's article has John Simon mentioning the 80s Band cut a demo of Rhumba Man (Jesse Winchester). Levon on lead I take it?... I can totally 'hear' him doing it. I bet that was a fun one.


Entered at Sun Jun 1 11:07:26 CEST 2014 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

Some of the "Tombstone" recordings might be interesting. Side 2 of High on The Hog sounds like outtakes to me and I have no fondness for most of Jubilation. If there were some Richard tracks from the early 80's that might be of some interest. Apart from Jericho the post TLW Band never did enough to keep my attention. I would like to see the 5 piece with Jim W before Richard died.


Entered at Sun Jun 1 01:37:09 CEST 2014 from (70.66.250.161)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Vancouver Island Music Fest.

AWRIGHT!! Carl, (Bonk), Jerry T, Bill M. and all the rest a yuz. Right across the river from where we live now is the fair grounds where the music fest is held.

This year, head lining Bonny Raitt, The Mavericks, Russel deCarle, and many, many more. Google Vancouver Island Music Fest, and get your asses up here!


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