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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, April 2013


Entered at Tue Apr 30 23:57:32 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Pat. So King Crimson Mk 1. Still, an odd combination, as was Miles Davis & The Band (as Levon has described).


Entered at Tue Apr 30 23:47:56 CEST 2013 from (70.50.36.123)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

This afternoon I saw.....
Stevie Nicks Discusses 'In Your Dreams' Documentary: Watch Exclusive Clip

It was heart warming to see that Lindsay Buckingham helped out on a song that Stevie said only he could play guitar......and......maybe was the beginning of relating to each other as friends again.

Pat B...I really want to see Felder with The Eagles.....Ya know how I feel about guitarists, right?

I'll be there to relive going to the library at school and....just taking it easy with the headphones on and taking it to the limit so I'll have a peaceful easy feeling, so I won't feel like a desperada, and maybe I'll wake up with a tequila sunrise with the best of my love, even if James Dean isn't by my side, afterall, it could be one of these nights with the new kid in town in a fast lane....or just one of these nights with a peaceful easy feeeeeling..........I really can't tell you why it could be the long run...I can't tell you why......Some dance to remember....some dance to forget......


Entered at Tue Apr 30 23:21:18 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Landmark

Thank you for posting The Eagles/Procol Harum show, No one ever believes me about this concert. I tell my friends I was the MC of the Eagles/Procol Harum first show in Toronto; at the O'Keefe Center and no one believes me. Thank you for your post. I feel validated by your post.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 23:01:20 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Peter, according to Frame By Frame--The Essential King Crimson, KC opened for the Band on November 12, 1969 in Detroit at the East Town Theater. That show is not on the list of Band gigs on site but it makes sense considering the other shows around that date.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 22:48:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I think you should pay your older brother more due respect, Kevin J. Have you ever looked closely at the cover of Brain Salad Surgery? Ah!


Entered at Tue Apr 30 22:20:24 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Prog Rock

Prog Rock………I just hope my older brother is not sitting in some basement somewhere in a puff of smoke listening to ELP and swearing he sees the future in some face in an album cover…….”The shape Kev….it’s the shape…..ya gotta looook carefully……no, no turn it that way…It’s more than a face …it’s a mountain”………………….I remember him explaining to me the story of one of the characters in maybe a Genesis theme album – not sure – and when I went back upstairs thinking how much simpler listening to Bowie, Dylan and Rod Stewart was………….Guitar teachers did backflips though over the mention of Steve Howe!!! They loved him.

Spent some time in South FLA last week…………………interesting….every taxi driver I encountered was Haitian – just like Montreal……one guy was especially good to listen to as he had been in the US since 1967……….plenty of stories along the lines of that good description of the more North you go in Florida the more South you get……….and how this breaks down in terms of the music that is made in various places…………….I think it is not a coincidence that when writers – even songwriters – stop or largely cut back on their travels that the quality of their work usually suffers greatly. Maybe it is just a function of getting rich and no longer rubbing shoulders and listening to the people along the way that they once did listen to like taxi drivers and other characters of the night.

JT: Thank you but the bridge watch is over…….playing Ottawa will be a more relaxing series for me – no matter how it turns out……


Entered at Tue Apr 30 22:16:55 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: From the Big Pink Basement to the Stone Canyon

Rick Nelson's excellent live album with the Stone Canyon Band, "In Concert: The Troubador 1969," featured covers of two Dylan Basement Tape songs, "If You Gotta Go, Go Now" and "I Shall Be Released." Among the other fine selections were covers of Eric Andersen's "Violets of Dawn" and Tim Hardin's "Red Balloon." In addition to Randy Meisner on bass & harmony vocals, the band at the time also included the late-great Tom Brumley on pedal steel, who'd previously been an influential member of Buck Owens' Buckaroos. After joining Mr. Nelson, Jay Dee Maness replaced him in the Buckaroos. Twenty years later Mr. Brumley would briefly replace Mr. Maness in Chris Hillman's Desert Rose Band.

For a taste of Mr. Nelson's great sounding Stone Canyon Band in action see link above to rare 1969 performance footage of "Red Balloon."


Entered at Tue Apr 30 21:30:28 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Pat, King Crimson & The Band? Was that a real example? When?


Entered at Tue Apr 30 20:38:33 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

The Eagles evidently spent a lot of time opening for prog rock groups like Procol Harum, Yes, and Jethro Tull. Seems strange now, but back then you saw a lot of shows like that. Buddy Rich and the Who, Mountain and some folk singer, Miles Davis and The Band, King Crimson and the Band.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 20:17:55 CEST 2013 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I saw the Eagles open up for Procul Harem on my 16th birthday at a small arena in an area of Montreal known as the West Island. There was nothing that hinted of future greatness in their performance. Procul Harem were not exactly world beaters themselves that night.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 19:47:35 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Seven Members Road

Link to all seven Eagles performing "Take It Easy" at the 1998 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 19:41:37 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Eagles: I thought “One of These Nights” was a great album and some of ‘Hotel California” as well. The rest put me to sleep……..and I think Henley’s “End of the Innocence” was better than almost all of The Eagles. I saw The Eagles at Rideau Carlton Raceway in the 70’s………..I was 15…..and they were just terrible live………about an hour in Joe Walsh took to the mic and said “ok Ottawa time to wake up” or something along those lines……I may have been foggier than he was that day but he did wake everyone up and kicked the whole place into gear……it lasted about 15 minutes and theN back to sleep……The show ended with half the crowd walking out to “Take it Easy”…..…..Chilliwack opened the show…..Years later I saw Frey open for Tina Turner and he was great.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 19:41:22 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

As I've said before (accurately), Glenn Frey name checks MFBP as one of his favorite albums.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 19:32:42 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just before I read that JT, I'd switched from The Eagles to "Garden Party."


Entered at Tue Apr 30 19:31:14 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Rick Nelson and the Stone Canyon Band

I was and remain a fan of Ricky Nelson and especially liked the later work with this band. With The Byrds (later work) and the Flying Burritos (the latter 2 obviously better known), these bands had a major influence on much that followed. Souther-Hillman-Furay, Poco, Eagles, Jackson Browne, and many others evolved. One cannot ignore the huge influence of The Band on all of these. Overall, that impact continues. And it all started with Hank Williams, Johnny Cash and Mr. Dylan's smiley blue album where the voice showed its true colours. (Was that really him? asked some. Where did that voice come from?)


Entered at Tue Apr 30 19:19:02 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Peaceful Easy Feeling

I've been playing The Eagles half the afternoon as a result of this discussion. Whatever the personalities etc, they were an incredibly good band.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 18:45:17 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Last year there was talk that all seven members of the Eagles would reunite for a tour called History of the Eagles--obviously in conjunction with the DVD release. So far, only Bernie Leadon has been confirmed. BEG is going to what could be quite a show.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 18:16:27 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Eagles Nashville Thread

In 1993 various country artists recorded the tribute album "Common Thread: The Songs of the Eagles." When the members of the Eagles were asked to participate in the filming of a Travis Tritt video for "Take It Easy" in conjuction with the release, it became the impetus for Henley and Frey, along with the others, to reconcile their differences to reunite and tour again. As a result, Hell Freezes Over, came about the next year.

I believe that both Bernie Leadon and John David Souther have relocated to the Nashville area in recent years. The latest rumor is that Mr. Leadon will be rejoining the Eagles for their summer tour beginning in July.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 17:48:33 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

If you turn on modern country radio, the influence of the Eagles is obvious. They are the blueprint for almost all of what you hear on there today.

Marc Eliot's "To The Limit" is a great bio of the group. Most interesting is the influence of Rick Nelson and the Stone Canyon Band as a catalyst after the first wave of folk/country bands disbanded. Eventual Eagle Randy Meisner had joined Nelson when Messina and Furay pulled a power trip on him in Poco.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 16:30:20 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

I neglected to mention that fellow teenager Cris Hillman was also a member of the Scottsville Squirrel Barkers, along with Bernie Leadon.

The Eagles "Their Greatest Hits (1971-1975)" is one of the best-selling albums of all time, having sold 42 million worldwide since its release in 1976. As Mr. Leadon co-wrote one of that album's featured songs, "Witchy Woman", along with Don Henley, I'm sure he's seen some nice royalty checks over the years since leaving the group. Mr. Leadon also co-wrote the less memorable Eagle song "I Wish You Peace", along with his then girlfriend Patti Davis, daughter of Ronald & Nancy Reagan. He didn't exactly wish bandmate Glenn Frey "peace" when he poured a beer over his head backstage shortly before flying from the nest.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 16:09:24 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Richie Havens Ashes

His ashes this summer will be scattered across the field in Bethel, Sullivan County, where the Woodstock festival was held. Bethel Woods Center for the Arts, another venue that hosted Havens, now sits on the festival site.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 15:16:45 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: As an Eagle stirreth his nest...

When the Leadon family moved from San Diego to Gainesville, Florida Bernie joined a band that included his high school classmate Don Felder. Mr. Leadon replaced departing band member Stephen Stills. Meanwhile, Bernie's brother Tom played in a band called Mudcrutch with another classmate Tom Petty. A few years later, in 1967, Bernie returned to California to rejoin Larry Murray, with whom he'd previously played with in the bluegrass group The Scottsville Squirrel Barkers. With others they formed the short-lived but seminal country rock group Hearts & Flowers. Mr. Leadon would then go on to play with Dillard & Clark and the Flying Burrito Brothers. His role in the latter group expanded around the time of the Festival Express Tour after Gram Parsons was kicked out of the Burritos. Of course, Mr. Leadon would later become a founding member of the Eagles, but was not comfortable with the path they took when they began to achieve rock star success. As it happens, this is an appropriate topic, as today an expanded 3-DVD edition of "The History of the Eagles" is being released. In addition to the documentary, a bonus disc is included featuring a 1977 concert.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 14:58:31 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: About those sources...

Nor can I divulge them, either. : )


Entered at Tue Apr 30 14:57:05 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Al, what is this google you speak of?

Al: sorry I cannot devulge my source(s) : )


Entered at Tue Apr 30 13:55:33 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Hmmm

Fred - I'd no idea you can get Google in Japan!! :-0)

Angelina - ta luv! Seems like your recent musical expedition was all you dreamt - and much more besides. Delighted for you.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 13:48:12 CEST 2013 from (69.158.24.148)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Musical memories from John Donabie

Oshawa-born broadcaster honoured at Canadian Music Week

Northern Girl and I ran into John Donabie and his very lovely partner at Hugh's Room for Tribute to Levon Helm. Very emotional with Levon's Godson Jerome Avis at drums.......He shared some stories with us as did his dad.....former The Hawks and The Band road manager.....Bill Avis......as did John Donabie. Love was in the air and The Weber Brothers really rocked and entertained everyone. Northern Girl enjoyed them so much that she'll be keeping an eye out for them. Ryan Weber emailed and told me they'll be at The Dakota on May 17. I only had a chance to talk with younger brother Sam.
The seven of us had fun and am looking forward to more nights filled with live music. I gave Northern Boy and his brother an "Ain't In It For My Health" card I found while in NYC. Yours will be in the mail today Peter with your Robbie Robertson postcard of him playing guitar and his portrait from the stamp collection.

Thanks David Powell. I looooove Timothy B. Schmit's short locks. As far as why I dig The Eagles......I can't tell you why. ;-D
Btw, Ala Donabie also digs Timothy's "I Can't Tell You Why".

Long Live The Eagles!


Entered at Tue Apr 30 13:34:02 CEST 2013 from (69.158.24.148)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Al Edge...Levon Helm's All Stars with Special Guest Bruce Springsteen rock the Stone Pony on August 22nd, 1987 Asbury Park, NJ.
I saw Southside Johnny and The Asbury Jukes at the same venue on July 4 a decade ago.

Levon Helm with Bruce Springsteen - Up On Cripple Creek / Lucille


Entered at Tue Apr 30 13:29:05 CEST 2013 from (69.158.24.148)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rick Danko Family Photos


Entered at Tue Apr 30 12:52:00 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: I got yer answer right here...

A fellow by the name of MR. Barbara Bach.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 12:34:36 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: My pivotal contribution to the soaring Eagles contemplations

Who is Joe Walsh's brother-in-law?

btw googling is for cheats

:-0)


Entered at Tue Apr 30 12:11:55 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Oslo last night - only Bruce can do this :-0)

Me and Bri totally saturated by work this past few months trying to pay off all the debt. Almost totally spent to tell the truth. But if there's one soul who can lift the spirits it's this amazing man.

:-0)

Thanks Brucie lad.

Now for the next few months :-0)


Entered at Tue Apr 30 11:51:51 CEST 2013 from (208.120.36.230)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

Subject: Re: The Beautiful Old

Peter, thanks for the Village Records tip! Will order for sure.

This album I noticed on the sidebar (linked) seems to want to jump in my shopping cart as well.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 11:43:34 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Stanley Cup talk

For the Leafs' fans....a reminder of how to conduct a victory parade just in case the puck bounces, er, slides your way throughout the playoffs and you bring the Cup back to Hogtown.

: )


Entered at Tue Apr 30 11:39:48 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Peter V: thanks for the clarification. : )


Entered at Tue Apr 30 11:18:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

No, Fred. Sometimes they have an article about Don Henley instead.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 11:04:53 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Is it just me?

UNCUT always has an article about the Eagles. Or does it just seem that way?


Entered at Tue Apr 30 10:37:57 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Stage fright

From the same “Uncut”. Todd Rundgren on Stage Fright:

“We set up the control room in the prop tent at the back of the (Woodstock) theatre. It was baking hot during the day and freezing at night. I played Stage Fright the other day, and it’s funny the things you remember when listening to it – one that is on that album and presumably some of their other recordings, Levon wasn’t the only drummer; Richard Manuel played drums as well, and trying to figure out which is which is hard! The final mix was done in Bearsville Studios, with most of The Band present all the time. That was tedious. Democratic mixing never goes well.”

So no mention of Levon chasing him round the theatre, nor that it was then sent to Glyn Johns (just mentioned) to try another mix!


Entered at Tue Apr 30 10:21:17 CEST 2013 from (208.124.36.240)

Posted by:

Crazy Chester

Location: Austin, TX

Subject: Speaking of Jeff Buckley

{{ latest issue, Jeff Buckley cover }} Ah, Buckley. "Lover You Should've Come Over" is one of the few songs I'd rank up there with "It Makes No Difference" in the genre of songs lamenting the loss of romance.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 09:06:41 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Eagles

Uncut has a feature on The Eagles with memorable quotes (latest issue, Jeff Buckley cover).

“Eagles had been recorded at Olympic Studios in London with Glyn Johns in February 1972. Eight months later they were back again with Johns, this time at Island Studios … The four adopted Californians singing country rock and hymning the dusty myths of the Old West, arrived in a city in thrall to Bowie and Bolan.’

‘They longed for Southern California, and the album has that wistfulness,’ says Rob Stone, ‘Not being in that place helped them. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.’

Bernie Leadon says, ‘(Henley & Frey) were more suited to lead. It was Glyn Johns’ idea to make it more of a four way thing. The natural dynamic was more like The Beatles with two main guys, but Glyn worked hard to make sure Randy and I had two songs each on Desperado, and it worked out OK.’

During “On The Border” they fell out and sacked Johns, “Henley & Frey treated the other band members like inferior beings, particularly Frey. I didn’t like what I was seeing at all and made that fairly obvious.’ Glyn Johns.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 08:54:00 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Beautiful Old - Garth Hudson

Just heard that it has been made available earlier at VillageRecords.com. If the link fails, it comes right up on the home page.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 07:58:11 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Eagles Debate

or conversely ....take it to the limit. : )


Entered at Tue Apr 30 07:49:30 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Eagles debate

Take it easy.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 05:36:09 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Well, whatever it is you are trying to say, it certainly is good news.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 04:05:12 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Pat, you wrote, "extinct species reappear every couple of months" Well, then they weren't extinct to start with. If someone declared them extinct, obviously it was a incorrect designation. Extinct means extinct. As in gone, baby. Dead. Defunct. No living members. Somebody is wrong, oh my!


Entered at Tue Apr 30 03:54:19 CEST 2013 from (208.120.36.230)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Thanks Adam and Peter, I appreciate it. My meager contributions to this great site are few and far between, but I've always been pleased I got that review down. I could tell that show was something special. I think I'll see if I can dig up that program.

"Gator Szabo" would be a pretty cool name for a rock band.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 02:21:30 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Shame , Shame Shame!... Right and Wrong

Pat. First off, pointing out that "almost extinct" is what i wrote and that it is different from what you claimed i wrote, which you claimed to be "extinct," is not hairsplitting. It is pointing out that you wish to argue with something i did not write and claim i wrote it. i thought only Republicans did that, but i guess you are making us Democrats look bad. Shame on you!

Secondly: Once again I wrote "Today people realize that the Eagles are an almost extinct Southern Californina phenomenon." Now you wish to take issue with my claim that it's cultural, not commerical, by pointng to Eagle airplay on country radio. Well, i don't know what Eagles music that harkens back to the 70s and 80s they are playing on country radio, if any. If it Eagles music from the 90s or past, that;s no longer the SOuthern California phenomenon. If it's Eagles songs covered by other people, then that's also out of bounds for this discussion. The only way your point would have any validity would be if country radio is now playing the Eagles music that was a SOuthern Californina phenomenon, and that would be the 70s and 80s stuff, as initially recorded. Even then, it would not be a Southern Californina phenomenon, it would be a country phenomenon today. But, hey, if i'm wrong, or if you think I'm wrong, i don't give a flying fuck . You are the guy who has an issue with being wrong. Me, I'm wrong often enough, and it really doesn't bother me.

So, I hereby state: Whether or not Pat B. notices it and brings it to attention, I, Billy C. (Friend0, am certain that i will type some incorrect (wrong) information in this guestbook several times during the rest of this Calendar Year, Lunar Year, Chinese Year, and Hebrew Year.

Furthermore, i ascertain, that in the event I do not type any incorrect (wrong) information in this Guestbook in the remainder of the aformentioned Years, then the paragraph that i typed preceding this one was wrong. Which makes me wrong anyway. So, i guess I'm right when i'm wrong.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 00:31:26 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Jon, and good to read that again.

Interesting that one of Garth's pieces in 1998 was called "Back to Bucharest". This reminds me that he was talking about Romania and music as well as Hungary. He mentioned a recording with Gator Szabo, and Jan and I spent hours trying to trace it, to no avail.


Entered at Tue Apr 30 00:22:41 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Louis Prima JR

Louis Prima Jr and The Witnesses, featuring Sarah Spiegel.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 23:47:42 CEST 2013 from (75.34.39.34)

Posted by:

Adam

Jon Lyness - great review, always been one of my favorites!


Entered at Mon Apr 29 23:46:08 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

btw, extinct species seem to reappear every couple of months.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 23:43:40 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

That's some amazing hairsplitting.

If you don't think the kind of popularity the Eagles enjoy is a cultural phenomenon with a pretty deep reach--my reference to country radio--I'd love to hear your thoughts.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 23:23:16 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Billy C. ( Friend0

Subject: Almost is a significant word.

Pat, if you wish to take issue with my comment, please take issue with my actual comment. which included the the words "almost extinct." "Almost extinct" and " extinct" are absoutely two very differnt things. Far as i know, there is no return from extinct. Almsot extinct, well something ain't yet extinct and can revitalize.

Here it is: "Today people realize that the Eagles are an almost extinct Southern Californina phenomenon." while it might be obvious to some, and not to you, the implications of my comments were far more cultural than commercial. Though, the argument might be made for cross pollination.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 23:06:19 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

None of the original four Eagles were from Cali. Leadon was born in Minnesota, lived and played bluegrass as a teen in San Diego a bit, and spent time in Gainesville FL before moving to LA. Don Felder is from Gainesville--hence the Leadon connection--and Joe Walsh was from Kansas but grew up in Columbus, Ohio. Tim Schmidt was born in Sacramento but by the time he joined the Eagles, he had lived in LA for years.

As far as the Eagles being an extinct SoCal phenomenon, I'd check with CD sales (their own label and distributor), concert ticket sales, DVD sales, and take a quick listen to country radio.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 22:38:43 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Re: The Beautiful Old - Garth Hudson

Thanks, Peter V, great review. I can't wait to hear this album.

Thinking about how perfect Garth is for this project, I was reminded of the time I saw him perform backed by the Hudson Valley Philharmonic in 1998 (my review is linked above). I noted in the review the conductor announcing that Garth's setlist would be made up of instrumental jazz songs from the 1920s & 30s, but I distinctly remember the date "1907" next to one of the songs in the program, and I recall him bringing his old sheet music for some or all of the songs. It was a quite special performance.

One final thought is that I'd love to see some of the principal players on this new album put together a few concert dates when it's released, as was done for Largo.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 22:34:57 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

David, a slight addition to your post.Like so many Californians in the seventies, you are correct, The Eagles were mostly transplants. I believe Bernie Leadon was a native Southern Californian, I know he played with Chris Hillman as a teen. The Eagles are really associated with Southern California, the Los Angeles area in particular. Somehow, when they wrote And hit with Hotel Clifornia they managed to extend their territory beyond the bounds previously associated wth them. But anyone who stopped for a moment back then realized the Eagles were a self indulgent, narcissitic breed and that Claifornia was made up of minimlaly three musical areas, Southern, Bakersfield, and Northern, San Fransisco mostly. Today people realize that the Eagles are an almost extinct Southern Californina phenomenon. Timothy is from the Sacramento area, up north, adding to the irony..


Entered at Mon Apr 29 20:28:49 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: aka May Beetle?

I can't be the only veteran record collector who every year or so comes across a budget folk LP from the '60s by a June Bugg. I'd always assumed that the name was made up in jest, but now I'm wondering if there really was a June, and if Jake is her son?


Entered at Mon Apr 29 20:19:30 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Get Up Jake Bugg

I saw Jake Bugg interviewed the other week on Last Call with Carson Daly (link). I enjoyed his raw enthusiasm in the few song clips featured. In a flash back to the '60s, it seems that lately we're experiencing another "great folk scare" in music.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 19:33:50 CEST 2013 from (129.98.207.164)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: JT

Jake Bugg,you are correct is worth checking out!


Entered at Mon Apr 29 18:38:50 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Amos Garrett releases debut jazz album

The following news release landed in my in-box this morning:

Amos Garrett achieves long-held ambition: Ace guitarist releases debut jazz CD on Stony Plain

Over a four-decade career, there’s not a lot that guitarist Amos Garrett hasn’t done. As one of the most distinctive guitar players since the Telecaster was invented, he’s made almost a dozen albums of his own, most of them for the Edmonton-based label Stony Plain. He’s appeared on more than 150 artists’ recordings, and he’s played rock and roll, folk, country, blues and pop, and you can hear him on records with Paul Butterfield, Ian Tyson, Bonnie Raitt, Jesse Winchester, Maria Muldaur, Emmylou Harris and even Anne Murray. But he’s never recorded a jazz album.

On June 4, Stony Plain will release Jazzblues, the Amos Garrett Jazz Trio’s debut album, which will include pieces by Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk and Freddie Hubbard, all modern jazz players who were steeped in the blues. “What we‘re doing is bringing the blues back to jazz — it used to a major part of jazz, but along the way the music got too complicated, some of the musicians got too self-involved, and the blues got lost,” he says. He pauses, and adds: “And a lot of jazz fans got lost too. It would be nice to get a few of them back in the fold.”

Garrett doesn’t see his jazz album as a major stretch, in large because the common root of the blues is as instantly recognizable as Garrett’s unique sound. The new recording features bassist Greg Carroll as the rock Garrett and Calgary guitar virtuoso Keith Smith lean on. Smith, almost unknown outside Alberta, is adept at chord soloing and the use of elaborate plucked harmonics and alternating harmonics and natural fretted notes. “You know,” Garrett laughs, “all those things pioneered by Ed Bickert and Chet Atkins and then taken to the moon by Lenny Breau.”

In addition to the pieces by Miles, Monk and Hubbard there are other gems on the CD, all of it recorded live at various concerts in Western Canada. Among them, a stunning vocal by Roberta Donnay on “Skylark,” an old Hoagy Carmichael/Johnny Mercer tune. There’s another classic from the American songbook, “Cocktails for Two,” and a medley of two tunes by Bob Erlendson, a Calgary-based jazz player whom Garrett has long admired — and who taught the late Lenny Breau.

Garrett remains as active as ever. There are continuing gigs with the Jazz Trio, he’ll be leading the famed House Band at the Edmonton Folk Music Festival again this summer, and there will be dates across Canada. and he’s going to teach at a music camp in Alaska. The Jazz Trio is set to appear at the Vancouver Island Folk Festival, and Amos will play an all-star guitar session with James Burton, Albert Lee and David Wilcox — a serious amount of twang power. And, of course, he still has his powerful blues band of 25 years, the Eh! Team. [...]


Entered at Mon Apr 29 15:29:25 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Short-Haired Eagle

Link to Timothy B. Schmit circa 1984 with short hair. Mr. Schmit is the only native Californian in the band so identified with that state.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 15:15:44 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Jake Bugg

In the quest for excellence and music evolution, I note Jake Bugg from the UK. I am sure the UKers here know him. I became aware from the NY Times article a few days ago and listened. A 19 year old with a lot going for him in my opinion. He has had some success and is on a world tour. Any comments from those who have heard him?


Entered at Mon Apr 29 09:52:04 CEST 2013 from (75.34.39.34)

Posted by:

Adam

Excellent, Peter V! Anticipating the release of that one.


Entered at Mon Apr 29 08:27:03 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Beautiful Old - Garth Hudson

Jan's just put up my review of "The Beautiful Old" (see link). It's not out for another five weeks, but as reviews are already about, I thought it was just as well to get it going. Garth Hudson is on TEN tracks, one solo. Don't forget to get it in early June. Great album!


Entered at Sun Apr 28 07:01:29 CEST 2013 from (68.199.208.190)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Garth - Beautiful Old Article

"But it’s Hudson, the album’s one true common musical thread, who holds everything together — just as he did with the Band — circling the song’s themes, unfurling these billowing asides then working so brilliantly in miniature too, creating this crazy-quilt tapestry of sound that binds all of the voices, and all the themes."


Entered at Sun Apr 28 05:23:10 CEST 2013 from (68.199.208.190)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: tuba shuffle / Hazmat Modine

Caught a half dozen songs by a band named Hazmat Modine tonight. 9 piece , excellent players. Crowded room, can't see the whole band, but saying to myself the bassist sounds like Rick, i mean really sounds like Rick, which is impossible, unheard of, and i almost expected to see Rick walk onstage playing his bass from behind a curtain. . And i cant see a bassist anywhere. i see a chick playing trombone, but no way was anyone getting that sound out of a trombone. I'm in back of the tables, and there's s pile of people in front of me, finally I realize there's the top of tuba sticking up behind other things, and man the tuba player couldn't have sounded more like rick on the bass. It just goes to prove how Rick was right when he said he played bass like a tuba. I'm not exaggerating about this tuba player either. Itwas too fucking wild. Excellnt band, if they come your way you'll be glad if you go check em out..... tuba of ocurse is too big to shuffle with or this guy woulda been shuffling, that's how much this tuba sounded like Rick;s bass.


Entered at Sun Apr 28 01:25:17 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Missing the anniversary of the loss of Levon Helm

Hope this vid will come up for y'all. The sound isn't the greatest......but to watch Ray Lamontagne sing "The Weight" with Levon & company.......listen to the clarity of that snare....there is nothing like it.

Larry does a great job singing his verse. The tuba solo is something else. Watching the old kid on that drum kit of his pumps life back into you.

All said and done, watching the love and energy here is just a high for me. When I go back to those late 60's in my mind, I'm glad so many of you appreciate them. You know the old, "you had to be there" thing....well I wish many of you could have been there. Watching things like Festival Express, you get a small taste of what it was like.

Man........it was something else. Will always miss you Levon.


Entered at Sun Apr 28 00:28:24 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Loudon Wainwright III

I saw Loudon Wainwright III at Poole Lighthouse this evening. The link goes to my review.


Entered at Sat Apr 27 23:50:58 CEST 2013 from (66.65.92.140)

Posted by:

Ari

BEG, it's my pleasure, if you like what I wrote then just check out what I wrote now. This guy really just set me off. I have a lot of school work finals stuff to do but I couldn't let this one dude's comments fly. It is so crazy to me that sometimes Robbie is criticized for being Jewish! It really tells you what kind of people we're dealing with here. I'm sure Levon wouldn't want any anti-semites to have his back.

So glad you're back, I was waiting for your response after Crossroads and you were nowhere to be seen. I'm glad you enjoyed it, thought it was a little bit of a missed opportunity to play The Shape I'm In since the 70s but I did like it.


Entered at Sat Apr 27 17:50:50 CEST 2013 from (79.160.47.202)

Posted by:

jh

Proud owner of the new TLW 3-LP 180-gram vinyl limited ediion from Rhino!


Entered at Sat Apr 27 16:32:22 CEST 2013 from (68.199.208.80)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Senior Folkies, may 21

interesting article, and a show happening in the village


Entered at Fri Apr 26 23:21:04 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

A friend described getting Diana Ross's autograph in the 60s … she signed backstage and had a shaven head, which is the best thing to do when you wear stage wigs. Stevie Nicks, Tina Turner, P.P. Arnold are all famous wearers of stage wigs.

Mr Schmidt's hair is indeed very long. Could it be a (cockney rhyming slang) "syrup". (From syrup of figs = wigs).


Entered at Fri Apr 26 22:58:47 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Timothy B cut his hair? Jeez, when I saw the Eagles (don't ask) a couple years ago it was so long that I assumed he hadn't seen a barber since the Glad LP.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 22:32:48 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Timothy B. Schmit & the Parrotheads

BEG: I recently watched the excellent two part documentary, The History of the Eagles, on Showtime. Timothy B. Schmit discussed that, when the Eagles broke up years ago, he took every job he could at the time. Back in the 80's he toured with Jimmy Buffett for a spell. I caught one of the concerts here at Chastain Amphitheater and at first I didn't recognize the bass player. At one point in the show Mr. Buffett introduced Mr. Schmit, who sang a stunning version of "I Can't Tell You Why." The reason I didn't recognize him was because at that point he'd cut his trademark long hair :-) And it was during his tenure with Buffett that Mr. Schmit coined the term "Parrotheads" to describe Buffett's legion of fans.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 20:27:20 CEST 2013 from (184.144.106.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Peter from upstate NY!
Did you notice in my last link that Rick Danko declares his frienship with Garth and Levon outlasted all his marriages?

So long everyone....listening to "I Can't Tell You Why" by The Eagels as I'm outta here.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 20:22:26 CEST 2013 from (76.124.39.182)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Subject: I'm telling you now

Is Everybody Ready? Let's Do the Freddie!


Entered at Fri Apr 26 20:06:57 CEST 2013 from (184.144.106.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Yes Bill M! The very first song I heard was "Sinnerman" too.
Are you joining us tonight, or what? I know who you are so you can't hide like Kevin J.
Oh and I met a promoter at LaGuardia Airport who represents Celine Dion and Jann Arden.
The universe is working it's magic....

Thank you Pat BBBBBBBB! Again, if I could have taken anyone to the Rascals' show.....it would have been the stranger from Illinois! So much joy, fun, and comraderie. Uhhh....The other day at the airport I overheard someone say that the younger generation have a different meaning for comrade..... ;-D


Entered at Fri Apr 26 20:00:10 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Nina Simone

BEG: This is the first Nina performance I heard, after buying it on spec at a junk store in Pembroke, Ontario. It's still my favourite, and made the top 30 list that Al E had each of us put together a couple years ago.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 19:22:02 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

That President's Trophy will look nice next to Lord Stanley's Cup.

Beg, thanks for the Rascals roundup. I hope they bring the show to Chicago. Good to hear you are out therfe enjoying life.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 19:18:53 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: R.I.P. George Jones

It's a sad, sad day. We've lost another true legend in music. Just last week a concert scheduled here at the Fabulous Fox Theater was postponed due to his illness.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 19:15:12 CEST 2013 from (184.144.106.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Correction..."Heart Like A Wheel" was written by Anna McGarrigle, but both sisters sang the song before Linda.

Release by the Estate of Nina Simone:
"I Shall Be Released" by Nina Simone
Recording session: Live, Paris 1968

The first time I heard her music in imagezulu's loft.....like a lot of people I thought she was a man.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 19:09:10 CEST 2013 from (184.144.106.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Serenity!!!!!! I'm at your service anytime. I do really encourage you to make Kitchener's Bluezzzzz Fest this summer.....It's free!

I bought last weekend two LPs myself for 1.00 each. Linda Ronstadt (boss of Eagles in progress) "Heart Like A Wheel"....song writtten by Montreal's Kate and Anna McGarrigle....saw them at our Harbourfront for freeeeeee.....and Jesse Colin Young's "On The Road".

Safe travels Kevin!


Entered at Fri Apr 26 18:36:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Vinyl

The other vinyl left over from Record Store Day was a Rhino release in a black sleeve with just a question mark and no artist or traxk name, and sealed. The store I went to had four leftovers on Tuesday. They told me they’d bought five and sold only one. The one they sold was to me. We knew in advance it was “The Grateful Dead” / “Dr John” and that it was a Rhino Side-By-Side, It turned out to be ”Iko Iko” and has three tracks … they added The Dixie Cups version too. But I was one of the foolhardy few who risked it. I’m glad I did.

Today was Bobby Vee Meets The Crickets AND Bobby Vee Meets The Ventures. The first is a great album. The second is worth three times as much because it’s far rarer (but was cheaper today). Both are signed by Bobby Vee in felt tip. Unfortunately he added ’93, which I suspect detracts from value … you either want ’62 and ’63 or nothing. Still, I always liked him. I had the Crickets one on CD, but there is a magic about the original, especially as I borrowed a copy when it was new and played it non-stop.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 18:18:32 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: George Jones, dead at 81. & friends...

Sad news about George Jones...Post on his passing at the bottom to read.. "He Stopped Loving Her Today" was a gem of his for sure. RIP,dear George, C/M will never forget you..

ARI: Thanx for letting me know about the dumb mistake I made on the 2 Richie's. Guess I wasn't thinking straight at the time. I can blame it on old age and get away with it? Yep!!

BEG: You surely have been busy? Thanx for all your posts and links. You are a very lucky girl to have seen all those goodies. Will get into them later, but sooo busy for now, so nice that I can do so...

Thanx to ALL you wonderful posters. I do enjoy reading every one of them so very much...Makes for a lot of good time spent....

BTW: I was a huge fan of hockey many moons ago. We had a great team here in K-W, The "Dutchmen". My fave all-time player was Jean Belleveau, even though I was a Maple Leaf fan..

Gotta go for now, CYA soon..

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo

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Updated: April 26, 2013 7:26 AM | By The Associated Press, thecanadianpress.com Country star George Jones has died at 81 NASHVILLE, Tenn. - George Jones, the peerless, hard-living country singer who recorded dozens of hits about good times and regrets and peaked with the heartbreaking classic "He Stopped Loving Her Today," has died. He was 81. Publicist Kirt Webster says Jones died Friday at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville after being hospitalized with fever and irregular blood pressure. Known for his clenched, precise baritone, Jones had No. 1 songs in five separate decades, 1950s to 1990s, and was idolized not just by fellow country singers, but by Frank Sinatra, Pete Townshend, Elvis Costello, James Taylor and countless others. In a career that lasted more than 50 years, "Possum" recorded more than 150 albums and became the champion and symbol of traditional country music, a well-lined link to his hero, Hank Williams.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 17:41:42 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Passion for Records

I really appreciate the passion that David P and Peter V have for vinyl. There is no way I would be lining up for records anymore. However, I would for the Mono version of the Canadian pressing of Blonde On Blonde.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 17:38:27 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: George Jones

"The Possum" George Jones is dead at the age of 81. Absolute Legend; in every sense of the word. He was just starting his farewell tour. R.I.P.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 17:37:25 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Record Store Day

I also picked up several free CDs -- special compilations from various labels highlighting recent releases from their rosters of artists. One from Anti-, with a wide range of music, is particularly good. I was tempted to pick up more RSD vinyl, but I'd decided to limit my budget this time round. I did notice that many shoppers were spending hundreds of dollars and the store had an extra hand to help ring up the purchases. As a regular customer, who often shops there every week or so, it's a strange flashback to days gone by to see that many people in a record store. Normally, when I stop in to check out new releases, there's just a few people in the place.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 17:13:47 CEST 2013 from (184.144.106.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Kevin JJJJJJJJJJJJJ!!!!! So funny!!!!!!!! I laughed so hard. I shared joke with imagezulu and he said, I guess I'll be talking about physics since my IQ is 150. Ha, ha! I told him a clairvoyant told me that mine is 160 but since I have a learning disability.....I resort to talking about The Leafs! LOL LOL

Freddy!!!!!! Always good to see you here. I always think of the water that smelled like rotten eggs when we'd be in your home town for our ethnic picnics.....LOL.....I'm teasing.....just teasing......Remember the dance called the Freddy?! Maybe not, as you're younger.... ;-D

Jean Paul Sartre tells us in "No Exit" that Hell.....is other people.

Well, for The Eagles.....Hell is playing with each other and being on the same stage....but they're professionals......I'm sure intense Henley (can relate) could freeeeeze anyone out.....but I still want to see them so....I guess Hell has frozen over again. They are insightful here.....

It's just another day in paradise
As you stumble to your bed
You'd give anything to silence
Those voices ringing in your head
You thought you could find happiness
Just over that green hill
You thought you would be satisfied
But you never will
Learn to be still

We are like sheep without a shepherd
We don't know how to be alone
So we wander 'round this desert
And wind up following the wrong gods home
But the flock cries out for another
And they keep answering that bell
And one more starry-eyed messiah
Meets a violent farewell
Learn to be still
Learn to be still

Now the flowers in your garden
They don't smell so sweet
Maybe you've forgotten
The heaven lying at your feet

There are so many contradictions
In all these messages we send
(We keep asking)
How do I get out of here
Where do I fit in?
Though the world is torn and shaken
Even if your heart is breakin'
It's waiting for you to awaken
And someday you will
Learn to be still
Learn to be still

You just keep on runnin'
Keep on runnin'


Entered at Fri Apr 26 17:10:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I didn't see TLW, The Van Dyke Parks or The Animals. I got the Dylan, Davy Graham, Shuggie Otis LP, Sly & Family Stone 10" and after the event, managed to get a "Bowie 65" online. It was the most desirable item for most people in the UK queues.

I went to look at leftovers on Tuesday. Lots of Hawkwind (which made me smile).


Entered at Fri Apr 26 16:46:09 CEST 2013 from (184.144.106.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Frank Ahart
Me, Rick and Barry at Levon's.

Long Live The Toronto Maple Leafs!!!!

Landmark and Kevin John....versus Bill M, JT, and brown eyed girl!!!!!


Entered at Fri Apr 26 16:22:15 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Bridges

And Kevin J.: Please stay away from bridges: We need you here.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 16:20:40 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Record Store Day

There was a mob scene last Saturday at my local record/CD store. It was a chilly morning, but fortunately I was in the front third of the line when the store opened at 10:00. To make things easier in the cramped space, only a dozen or so shoppers were allowed in at a time. I'd decided ahead to limit myself to just a few selections from the long list of releases. Since I already have a couple of copies of "The Last Waltz" LP-set in good shape, I passed on getting the new one, although I heard it was a new mastering. I was able to get the three things on my list: the rare mono LP version of Van Dyke Parks' "Song Cycle", the Animals 10" EP featuring "House of the Rising Sun", and the Dylan "Wigwam / Thirsty Boots" 45 single. After listening, I'm quite happy with the sound quality of all of them. Might check back at the store to see if there are only interesting leftovers. Helping to add comfort to the hassle of the frantic shopping experience, the store offered an ice chest full of complimentary ales and a band played on the roof later on in the day. See link for recently posted photos.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 16:17:21 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: The Resurrection

Good one Kevin J: The robot one day will have to change the question. He has a one-track 'mind' and I use that term tech-loosely. The robot will soon say "Buy me a ticket to the resurrection!" I hope the patron will know what he means.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 16:07:01 CEST 2013 from (64.134.185.211)

Posted by:

Kevin J

A guy goes into a bar and there is a robot bartender. The robot says, "What will you have?" The guy says "Martini." The robot brings back the best martini ever and says to the man, "What's your IQ?" The guy says, "168." The robot then proceeds to talk about physics, space exploration and medical technology. The guy leaves, but he is curious, so he goes back into the bar. The robot bartender says, "What will you have?" The guy says, "Martini".  Again, the robot makes a great martini, gives it to the man and says, "What's your IQ?" The guy says, "100." The robot then starts to talk about Nascar, Budweiser and John Deere tractors. The guy leaves, but finds it so interesting, he thinks he will try it one more time. He goes back into the bar. The robot says, "What will you have?" The guy says, "Martini", and the robot brings him another great martini. The robot then says, "What's your IQ?" The guy says, "Uh, about 50."  The robot leans in real close and says, "So... you gonna cheer for the Leafs again this year?"

BEG: Have fun tonight.......Traveling in Fl......if those "only in a lockout" lucky Leafs beat the Habs in the first round, I'll either jump off a bridge or go into permanent disguise.  


Entered at Fri Apr 26 16:07:15 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Location: The Lonely End of the Rink

JT: kidding aside, I think this edition of the Leafs could go far in the playoffs, if the gods of hockey toss out a few favourable breaks their way. I really rate Nazem Kadri as a player. I wish he was playing for the Red Wings. : (


Entered at Fri Apr 26 15:59:40 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Septtember '72

Angelina: we got to watch Game 8 at school. Naturally we all went nuts when Paul Henderson scored! Grade 4...the Golden Age of being a sports fan (before the cynicism regarding professional sports began to take root in Grade 6). : )


Entered at Fri Apr 26 15:58:42 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Timbuk3: He shoots, he scores!

To defend the Leafs: It was a shortened season, because of the lockout, and the competition was stiff. There has been a great deal of team equity that has developed over the years and so arrival in the playoffs is not a small matter. This team has climbed out of the mire and this year, for the first time, it can hold its head relatively high (with a few exceptions this year) for most of its games. There has been real improvement with a new coach and a new system or template (as Randy calls it) and a commitment to that system. The time for denigration is over. The future is bright. I gotta wear shades.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 15:46:50 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Where Leafs stand

Leafs are 8/30 today in the 30 team NHL. They are 5/15 in their Conference. By my math thats higher than top 80%. But I get your general point. You have to be top 50% to continue in the game. We are finally there!


Entered at Fri Apr 26 15:42:51 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Fred: No parade, but it's been pretty weird. We're giving ourselves hero treatment just because 'we' sneaked into the top 80%.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 15:32:46 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.156)

Posted by:

BIlly C. (Friend0

Yossie, you are welcome.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 15:21:28 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Subject: Turn, Turn, Turn

Angelina - For every time, there is a season. There has been a problem with quality on the downtown Toronto rink since 93 played. Mats could not do it alone and a few who came in and then left failed. The last coach was unfortunately not a good match for his cohorts. Burke made it happen but couldn't hang around long enough to reap the fruits of his labours. Time to watch again, Beg. And the Big M made it big first with Toronto ( I saw him in the early 60s before Montreal). He was special in a time when there seemed to be a lot of room to wheel on the ice surface. I saw Lupul do the same thing a few weeks ago. Its been a long time between. BEG: It might be time to watch again. There is a good product most of the time. And you might very well see Leafs-Habs in the first round. Maybe.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 15:11:58 CEST 2013 from (184.144.106.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Reformed Band @ The Pines 1995 ( Part 1/10 )
"The Reformed Band playing, what seems to be a very intimate show, at The Pines in Bridgenorth, near Peterborough, Ontario - March 24th 1995.
An amateur recording, so sound isn't too wonderful, but well worth watching. Thanks to whoever decided to take their VHS camera for an outing, that night!"

Hockey...I was shocked when The Leafs made it to the playoffs. I was a die-hard fan......until the Gilmour years. Doug Gilmour had a condo at Bay/Bloor as he lived in the same building as a co-worker. Sorry.....after that time it was clear.....Toronto management didn't have to obtain quality players because the seats were filled every night.

Hockey at brown eyed girl's home from childhood until I left the Grand River to go to University.....Mom.....Montreal fan.....(loved the Rocket and Pocket and Frank Mahovlich) Brother.......Blackhawk fan (Young Chelios developed his skills here. Does he still have his restaurant Pat B?).....Grandpa and myself.....Toronto. I had a Dave Keon poster in my room. Very typical of my dysfunctional household as we couldn't even.....agree on cheering for the same team! lol The last game I saw at Maple Leaf Gardens was when Jimmy McKenny was playing.

When Canada played Russia in '72.....We were let out of school early to watch the game at home. The Philly couple I met just before we were let into Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival......We chatted about hockey.........Oh yeah....As soon as they told me where they were from......I could still feeeeeeel the pain Shultz and chippy Clarke caused my team! We laughed about it after I let go of the vivid memory. ;-D


Entered at Fri Apr 26 13:12:29 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Virtual parade

Fred: There was a virtual parade in the Big Smoke in the minds of all the faithful. The parade master wore a blue jersey and sang 'When You Awake". The dream has become a reality, at least for 1 round.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 09:09:54 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Back to muzak...

Rather than having a reissued Rock of Ages, I'd rather have a Robbie & Garth collaboration. I'm kind of getting tired of all the "X"-th anniversary reissues of things I already own. Unless there's something of real value that was kept in the vaults long ago and will now see the light of day....no more reissues...please.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 09:05:55 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: NHL trash talk (please scroll on by if not interested)

Pat B: It's Lord Stanley's Cup that counts. The President's Trophy is just a gussied up Participation Ribbon : )

JT: Did they have a parade in downtown Toronto for the Leafs having made the playoffs after such a long time? : )


Entered at Fri Apr 26 06:26:45 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

I'm just sitting here admiring my Blackhawks' President's Trophy.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 05:28:25 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: OK

OK But at least there is a first round. That's different


Entered at Fri Apr 26 04:41:28 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: THE Playoffs

JT: Leafs ....out after the first round. : )


Entered at Fri Apr 26 02:45:22 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: As I watch Leafs 2nd last game of regular season

As I watch Toronto Maple Leafs 2nd last regular season game, it would be remiss of me not to tell our readership that this is an exciting time for those of us who bleed BLUE. I do remember the last championship (Stanley Cup) in 1967 after 3 earlier in the decade. But that was in an era of 6 teams in the league. Now there are 30 teams. Leafs have NOT been in the playoffs in 7 years. They have been average to poor to disgraceful for the past few years and the fans have been long suffering. The rest of Canada have enjoyed the failure and Leafs in some people's eyes have been a laughing stock. This year they are there. It is an exciting time. They are competitive and exciting. They are young and fast. They have a goaltender and they have 4 relatively strong lines and a good defense. They have good special teams (penalty killing and power play) They have very good coaching and a system that is working. As everyone shares their own personal joys, let me note for our friends overseas that this is 'bigtime' for some in Canada...like accomplishments in football in Europe or in baseball, American football, or basketball in USA. Go Leafs Go!!! (By the way, we are winning in this game 4-0 with half a game gone.


Entered at Fri Apr 26 02:16:21 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Wex

Apparently, Wex lives in Toronto and taught at UofT. I never have run into him but will keep my eyes and ears open. thanks Billy. Sounds like a good guy to read and meet.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 22:47:42 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.84)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Teronno

Subject: The Leader Of The Laundromat

My guess is that one of the acts on the bill with Kenny Vance, Dave Somerville, is another golden oldie, the former lead singer of the Diamonds of "Little Darlin'" fame. Although they evolved to do originals like "The Stroll", their big hit, like the hit cover of "Sh-boom" that was done by their Toronto highschool classmates the Crew-Cuts, was a "whiter" version of a "race" hit by an African-American group.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 22:00:21 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.145)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Another Canuckstani Yidn seems to be the world's foremost, certainly the world's funniest, authority on the yiddish language, it's origins and evolution, i;ts connection to the talmud and Torah, and to the history of Judaism, and jews.. His name is Michael Wex, and his wonderful book is titled Born To Kvetch. Without saying that ios doign this, the book also explains why to date, Yehudim have been pretty muchthe same no matter where they are from, Alberta, Alabama, Texas, India, Brooklyn, Alaska, South Africa, or France. the book is right on the money, fascianting, and funny as can be. Peter, if youve the time, i thnk it might be soemthign you'd enjoy also..


Entered at Thu Apr 25 21:42:31 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Immigration man changes Yosef to Jerry... and it stuck

The 11th son of Jacob, Yosef. Actually, Jerry was given to me when I immigrated at 4 months old (by ship) from Europe. Some immigration man thought I should have a an anglicized name if I was going to live in Canada. I would have preferred Gerald or Jerome, but you take what they give you and you get what you pay for. My parents were just happy to be here and not there where genocide was easy and life was cheap. They weren't about to fight progress.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 21:20:26 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Levon Film

It played for only one night on March 21st and I was unavailable to go. Hoping it returns soon. Actually I hope it goes to DVD soon; as I think it will get to a lot more people quicker.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 21:08:40 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

Subject: Ain't In It For My Health

Over the next month or two there's a smattering of US theater showings scheduled for the new Levon documentary (CO, MI, NJ, NY, OH, TN, TX)... see link.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 20:06:41 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Weber Brothers

I just watched the video of "I Don't Belong To Anyone." It may be; just one of the saddest songs I have ever seen; or heard.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 20:02:24 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.145)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

I thought that might interest you Jerry. I'm not sure what Traynor is doing.... So, are you a Heshie, a Yeshua, or a Yaakov? I suppose Jerry or Jerold could be Chaim also. Yaakov over here. Vance is working pretty hard for a 70 year old guy. He was before Hurricane Sandy, but lost everything in it. Lived in Belle Harbor, right off the water.So, he might be having his hand forced a bit now.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 19:14:35 CEST 2013 from (184.145.67.233)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Thanks, Angie, but I won't be in the big city till next month when I meet up with a few former workplace colleagues for lunch. Bloor Diner, probably, since one of my pals works nearby. But I wish I could join you — maybe in disguise like Kevin.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 17:57:18 CEST 2013 from (24.161.12.36)

Posted by:

Dennis

Location: West Saugerties

Subject: Jerome 'n his dad

Jerome, some of us were recently wondering out loud how you 'n your dad were doing, hadn't seen you in a while. Glad to hear all's well and congrats on the show and the fine work you're doing....


Entered at Thu Apr 25 17:12:53 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Shelter

Thanks Angelina. That's a good one!


Entered at Thu Apr 25 17:08:39 CEST 2013 from (24.235.171.81)

Posted by:

Jerome Levon Avis

Location: Peterborough, On Canada

Subject: Celebration To Levon Helm

Just a quick line to thank John D. for posting the info back in January about our Celebration to Levon Helm show at Hugh's room in Toronto tomorrow night.My dad Bill Avis former manager for The Hawks/The Band conceived the idea and through Lance Anderson and myself we put together a show that is now sold out! Our featured guest's will be John Dickie along with the Weber Brothers, but you never know who might show up. Levon was my God father and I told him before he passed that I would sing and play drums in his style to honour his great spirit and soul. Boy do I miss him as do all of you, but I know that he will be back in T.O watching over us tomorrow night. I will post future Last Waltz celebration's or Celebration's of Levon Helm show's as they come up. To see videos of past shows go to youtube and type Jerome Levon Avis in the search box. Thank you.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 17:03:10 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Obamadylantimes

David: That is precisely what I'm talking about. I had that in mind when I wrote my wish. Thanks for linking it.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 16:51:20 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan Unplugged

JT: Here's proof that Dylan can still deliver without the howl of the ghost of electricity.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 16:46:10 CEST 2013 from (69.156.29.253)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

One more.....for JT since he won't be able to make it this time.....to see The Weber Brothers Band!
Ryan is a huuuuge fan of Dylan.
They are also huuuge fans of The Band ever since they saw.....The Last Waltz!!!
Hey Kevin J!! Are you still going to be hiding and not make yourself known?!! ;-D


Entered at Thu Apr 25 16:38:28 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Bob Dylan ideally solo or acoustic

I have a wish. The music is excellent on this tour, as it has been recently for the 2012 tour. However.... I'd like to see Bob Dylan do a small tour solo with guitar and mouth harp. I know all about the alleged arthritis and the reason for the keyboards and all that (assumed explanations for no guitar). Alternatively, the mouth harp when appropriate and 1 accompanying guitarist. The songs can be from any era. Why? Because it would be of interest to see his interpretations naked and unadorned. I'd welcome that. Maybe in the future... yet another expression of his creativity as he reforms old masterpieces into new creations.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 16:30:22 CEST 2013 from (69.156.29.253)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Ok, so Ryan Weber was featured on "I Don't Belong To Anyone"...I think he's one of the few rock musicians who can also play sitar guitar as well, others being Brian Jones and George Harrison.

Here's Sam Weber...."Risk It All". I'm always a sucker for sliiiiide. The previous song sounded like he was playing sliiiide but nope.....He knows how to make his guitar sound like it. Bravo!

The Weber Brothers have performed with Garth Hudson, Levon Helm, performed private show for Robbie Robertson, and performed with Jonnie Johnson. It was at this show I met Cobi who posted here at one time.

Long Live The Weber Brothers!!!!


Entered at Thu Apr 25 16:22:29 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: No sign of Traynor

Billy C: I see no sign of Traynor on the list. My mistake. I saw somewhere that Traynor tours with Jay Siegel's Tokens, but it seems not this time?


Entered at Thu Apr 25 16:18:08 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: History

Billy C: As you know, there is an entire history of white pop history as Adath Israel hosts Kenny Rosenberg and Mr. Traynor. Jay and The Americans were a major force in music just before and soon after the Beatles exploded on the scene. The Leiber-Stoller effect on American pop music cannot be underestimated. Jay (both Jays) and the Americans was an excellent act and those records still stand up as classics today. Steely Dan owes a lot to Kenny as Becker/Fagen evolved in the late 60s early 70s.


Entered at Thu Apr 25 16:08:02 CEST 2013 from (69.156.29.253)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Nomadic Mike....You and your better half should have got tickets and have some fun in the big city. Btw, I think "Red" lives in Storybook Gardens too. Tomorrow night....The Weber Brothers at Hugh's Room!! They have grown so much as a band. I haven't seen them since they were in their early twenties. Check out this video as their pap is there too.

Lars...I'm very sorry to hear the news about your friend Sredni Vollmer.

Adam...The very first time I saw Garth Hudson was in NYC at the Bottom Line. It was a tribute show to The Band!!! I had a fantastic time as it was also the very first time I saw another Canadian from Festival Express.....Buddy Cage! I also thought.....wow....I have a VHS tape of Louuuu here too......just saying Pat B..... ;-D


Entered at Thu Apr 25 06:52:48 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.145)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: say a little prayer

Kenny Vance and the Planotones in a Toronto shul. Vance is from Brooklyn, was an original member ofJay and th eAmericans, sudccessful songwriter, producer, etc etc. People may be most familiar with his voice from the song Looking For An Echo. &) yeas ol, Kenny just released an accapella recording.

May 28, 2013 (Tuesday)
Adath Israel Synagogue
37 Southbourne Avenue
Toronto, ON M3H 1N5 Canada
Tickets: 416-638-7200
Also appearing: (Pure Gold, Charlie Thomas' Drifters,
Jay Siegel's Tokens, Dave Somerville, The Marcels and
hy Young)


Entered at Thu Apr 25 04:28:13 CEST 2013 from (75.34.39.180)

Posted by:

Adam

BEG and John D - Thank you so much for your kind words. Support from fellows fans like yourself, by brothers and sisters, is what inspires me to continue writing about my experiences!

I remember when I was an up and coming Band fan... I was so amazing to read about folks here who had met the guys, taken photos with them, kept in touch, etc. All of that, along with actually seeing them perform live, seemed like something totally unattainable. Now after seeing Levon Helm a total of 7 times, currently on my sixth time seeing Garth Hudson, meeting both Levon & Garth, has really changed my life.

I remember when just seeing Garth perform live seemed like the most unimaginable thing. I thought "Maybe one day, and it will be the highlight of my life..." Discovering that he enjoys hanging out with fans, sharing his knowledge and stories, is simply unbelievable. I consider myself the luckiest Band fan on the face of the planet to call myself a friend of Garth & Maud Hudson... truly beautiful people.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 23:42:39 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Sredni

Sad to hear Sredni isn't well.I have wonderful memories of him.We had a place two doors down from him in Woodstock.Have no idea if he's still living there.Havent seen him in years.Wishing only good for Sredni,and prayers for a complete recovery.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 23:39:01 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Kevin/Dylan's guitar players

Things could be worse on the guitar front-Dylan could still be making his feeble efforts to play lead himself.Ouch.Dylan does seem to tire from sounds over time with particular ire for lead guitarists.Heck,he's fired some great ones,dissed Clapton on occasion,and if memory serves me well,I recall hearing that he handed an album to a guitarist(was it larry?)asking him to play like the sound on the album.Again,if I'm recalling correctly it was an album from about 1928 and the "lead" was a violinist.And,if it was Larry,Bob wasn't asking him to play the violin! Dylan might best be described as a peculiar person in general,but particularly as relates to his musical thought process.The story I'd love to hear is the one that explains why,besides his incredible playing/bandleader skills,Tony Garnier has been able to last so long with Dylan? I wonder,is Tony the longest serving musician in Dylan history? Well,he's fired drummers,and others,but he does seem to have a hang up about guitars.Perhaps playing early in his career with Bloomfield and Robbie can be hard to match.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 23:09:55 CEST 2013 from (65.95.180.37)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jon L...You can find some CDS at the Itune store.
"Tell-her-Im-happy-tell-her-Im-gay-tell-her-I-wouldnt-have-it-any-other-way." Jackie Shane

John D...I ain't got no sugar daddy here!!!!!! ;-D

Kevin John...It's my self-funded year off work. One way I'm treating myself is to enjoy all the music I let sliiiide by years ago. Also, some of my former co-workers and siblings of friends have passed by the time they reached their early 50's. I've still got my groove on and am no longer waiting to have some much needed fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ari...I saw your comments on youtube...good for you. I used to have scars, broken bones and bruises from the time I was his biggest cheerleader but they've healed now. I'm now passing the torch.

Adam...Your passion for Garth's music ooooozes on my computer screen. Keep going with it.

Bill M...I have one song by the Skatalites..."Guns of Navarone" from my four CD "Tougher Than Tough The Story of Jamaican Music - Ska, Rock Steady, Reggae, Dub, Dance Hall, Ragga". I have one artist from Ragga...Apache Indian from UK. As for ska...I have The Specials who will be in town. Their extended version of "Stereotypes" at one time was played loud in my household. I also dig their song reminding us to get rid of any racist acquaintances, friends or family members.

Call yourself my friend?
Now is the time to make up your mind, don't try to pretend

Be it your sister
Be it your brother
Be it your cousin or your uncle or your lover

So if you are a racist

Our friendship has got to end
And if your friends are racists don't pretend to be my friend

So if you have a racist friend
Now is the time, now is the time for our friendship to end
GOODBYE


Entered at Wed Apr 24 22:31:53 CEST 2013 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

mike h

Web: My link

Subject: Sredni Vollmer benefit May 11th in Woodstock, NY.

From the benefit page:

"Our friend Sredni has taken quite ill and has requested a benefit to raise money to help with the ongoing care for his son, Danny, and to meet some personal needs. Mariann has graciously donated The Colony Café for this event, scheduled for Saturday, May 11. We are still in progress building this, but so far we have Beki Brindle Band, Dharma Bums, Hemingway's Cat, Salted Bros, RT, Marji Zintz, Dan Pagdon & Denise Jordan Finley, Elly Wininger, Don Sparks, The New Lazy Boys and Gilles Malkine. Keep an eye he...re for more details. For anyone who would like to send a donation, make checks payable to "Benefit for Sredni" and send to:

Benefit for Sredni Box 881 Woodstock, NY 12498

Thank you all..."


Entered at Wed Apr 24 22:27:50 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The woodstock '69 Experience

I'm not sure if Richie Havens was still working with Albert Grossman when he opened at Woodstock, but there's no doubt that his appearance in the film & soundtrack catapulted his career. On the other hand, in hindsight, one has to wonder how the conspicuous absence of The Band from both formats at the time affected their career.

That decision has reportedly been attributed to Mr. Grossman's contention that the initial performance fee was too low to include the subsequent film & soundtrack licensing rights to the group's performance. The group was also unhappy with how they sounded that night. Rick later mentioned that the problem was due to the fact that they didn't have control over the PA system used for the event. Robbie recounted that their intimate "living room" approach to playing didn't seem to work for playing in front of hundreds of thousands of people outdoors, saying "we were like orphans in the storm there."


Entered at Wed Apr 24 21:45:48 CEST 2013 from (64.134.185.99)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Donna

From RR's Facebook page:

"At Albert Grossman's management co. in 1967 there was an amazing array of talent..... My favorite singer of all was Richie Havens. When we finished recording Blonde On Blonde I suggested to Albert that Richie record 'Just Like A Woman'. He killed it. What a voice and what a lovely man. -RR"

Jon: The rythem section guys seem to hang around forever with Bob D but you are on to something with the guitar players.......Larry C seemd not a happy guy towards the end and same with Sexton - and especially for guitar players how one feels tends to reveal itself in how one plays.........When Campbell was fully there with Bob......those were some of the very best Dylan shows I have seen.....and the shows after his departure ( before Sexton returned ) we're limp by comparison.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 21:44:10 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Jon Lyness: If you can get to a couple of decent big-city oldies stores you should be able to drum up a well-done CD package titled something like "Jackie Shane: the live album and all the singles". I believe that the subtitle is true - the album, nine 45s by my count, and two tracks on one of those Design bargain LPs (the Charles Brown / Amos Milburn one). Jackie told me that "Any Other Way", from '63 was his first time in a studio, and that he didn't do anything after about '71, when he did a session with the Kinfolks in LA. If you can't find that comp. CD, then you're stuck with finding the vinyl, with the exception of the two Sue a-sides on the Sue Story boxed set, and his two Modern sides on two different Ace reissues out of the UK. And then there's "Walkin' The Dog", available only on the internet as far as I know.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 20:53:11 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jon Lyness

You brought back a great memory Jon. The last tour I enjoyed the most was Toronto 2003; with Larry and Charlie together and Bob on Guitar. I missed the next tour; which was 2004, I believe.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 19:54:16 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

That Jackie Shane stuff is killer, and brand new to me. Thank you to BEG and John for the links.

Kevin, re Charlie Sexton, I can remember feeling a similar vibe from Larry Campbell in Dylan's band circa 2003 or so... still there and still doing guitar, but no more harmony vocals and looking like the boss had chewed him out. I do love Dylan's live act, but it seems a reasonable assumption that as an employer he can be a tough guy to work for, especially for a sustained period of time.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 19:50:49 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Kevin J: Remember who said, "You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave". A sentiment that some insist on living by.

BEG: Turns our that there are several youtube links to "Any Other Way", each with its own set of comments. I do like Gerry Lincoln's, where in the comments a guy talks about buying the single at Skippy White's record store in Cambridge Mass. Another of "Any Other Way" links shows the original label, Cookin', who sold or licensed the record to Sue. Cookin' was a Boston label, likely owned by Skippy White himself, and Boston is where it was recorded. Back to Gerry Lincoln: the link is to his posting of another Jackie Shane record, though the note that it was his last 'major' (meaning legit) single is off the mark, as it was recorded during Jackie's '66 stay in LA before returning to Toronto to Frank Motley's new lineup (Frank Motley and the Hitch-Hikers), who recorded the live album (and singles) that Gerry talks about elsewhere. Have your investigations into early reggae led you to the Skatalites? When Frank Motley parted ways with the Hitch-Hikers in '70 or '71, his place as trumpeter was taken by former Skatalite, Johnny 'Dizzy' Moore.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 19:19:21 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Any Other Way

Album version at 8 minutes long.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 19:15:43 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jackie Shayne

People; including myself saw Jackie at The Sapphire Tavern; on Yonge St.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 18:47:50 CEST 2013 from (64.134.185.99)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Jed/JT............Thanks and yes...hearing good things about the Dylan shows......I especially like the song lists...The 2 shows I saw last November were great but the one comment to the down that I made at the time was the almost absence of Charlie Sexton......he as there but not there......so nice to see the spark that DR has put back in.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 18:40:07 CEST 2013 from (64.134.185.99)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bucket Lists

Care must be taken in "Bucket List" planning........probably best to leave the sleep inducing ones on the list till very late in life.......take plenty of time BEG as no doubt The Eagles will still be touring when you're 90.......They'll all be pushing 110 but claiming to be getting along and justifying - somehow - the $3500 per ticket price........Oh, and Robbie will still be writing his biography...


Entered at Wed Apr 24 18:30:23 CEST 2013 from (129.98.207.164)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Dylan-4/21/13

Just listened to half that show and hope to hear the rest later.After seeing Dylan last august in Bethel I was blown away by the great concert he gave.But listening to the 4/21 show is even better.Duke is fantastic & the sound is bluesy but spooky.Also,was able to hear every word Bob sang. BTW,anyone interested in listening,check out today's Expecting Rain site.It's all there!!


Entered at Wed Apr 24 17:47:21 CEST 2013 from (64.231.17.86)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Bill M..."Red" from this GB sent Shayne's CD to me and I burned him a brown eyed girl mix. "Red" actually saw him in TO. I just can't remember where Bill.

Check the youtube link for comments about Jackie Shayne's "Any Other Way". "I have to give a shout out to Mrs Kenner, the former owner of A&A Records. That poor lady had to endure this song being played over and over and over and over"... :) Gerry Lincoln

I saw Patti Labelle on a talk show talk about the other Jackie...Wilson....Every woman't nightmare.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 17:47:35 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG / Rolling Stones

So did you buy the $650.00 tickets?


Entered at Wed Apr 24 17:04:23 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks for the notes. Which Jackie did Patti Labelle talk about - Shane or Wilson? Whose words were you quoting in the bit about the song charting again (which it did in '67 on Jackie's return from LA, where he'd gone following the demise of Frank Motley and the Motley Crew)? Red's? BTW, the Caravan guy was Frank Swain.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 16:20:25 CEST 2013 from (76.68.50.223)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and another Jackie. Here's my favourite song!!!!!

Btw, Patti Labelle wrote about him in her book and......


Entered at Wed Apr 24 16:17:11 CEST 2013 from (76.68.50.223)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hey Bill M...I think Red who used to post here saw Jackie Shane in Toronto. Bumbles talked about his recording here and thanks to Red.....I have my own copy.

"Any Other Way was Jackie's biggest hit single, hitting the charts TWICE.

By popular demand, the single was re-released and immediately made it onto the CHUM Top 50 charts, attracting the interest of Caravan Records' Frank Swayne. I pitched the idea of recording a live album the next time Jackie was in town and guess what — he went for it!"


Entered at Wed Apr 24 16:00:51 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

sadavid: Good find. The writer, Carl Wilson, is at the Globe and Mail, though I don't see this on their site, which I guess means they deemed it unworthy. I found the all the speculation and web-spinning fascinating, and in some cases enlightening. By the way, I don't think the reference to "Lucy's chicken coop" in "Ferdinand The Imposter" is unrelated to meaning of "chicken" in the Wilson article, though I believe the word was used to apply to young females as well as young males.

Unfortunately, the opening paragraph provided a 'context' that was not only inaccurate but replaced a more interesting true context. 1963 was in fact a great year for CanCon on the Toronto charts, and especially R&B CanCon. "Charlena" by Richie Knight and the Midnights and "Big Town Boy" by Shirley Matthews both hit #1 on CHUM, and "If" by Little Caesar and the Consuls" and "Bo Diddley" by Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks, as well as "Any Other Way" by Jackie Shane (at link) did almost as well. And then what happened: the Beatles happened - and blew up pop music. Who knows - this may even have contributed to the departure of our guys from the Hawkins bandstand. Hawkins has said a number of times that they wanted to play more blues than he could allow, but if you listen to the live tapes, there doing not much else with him. But with the arrival of the Beatles, maybe Ronnie wanted to change tack a bit, and they wouldn't go along with him, so packed it in? Just more speculation.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 15:55:49 CEST 2013 from (76.68.50.223)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

My bucket list is getting lighter!

I am going to see THE EAGLES for the first time.....and The Rolling Stones with MICK TAYLOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Entered at Wed Apr 24 15:36:52 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: John Simon: Songs to sing and stories to tell...

In the curent issue of THE NEW YORKER magazine, under the playbill listings for NYC clubs & concert halls, is the following:

"Joe's Pub
425 Lafayette St. (212-539-8778)--April 25: If you were collecting rock records in the late sixties, here are some of the albums you owned: 'Cheap Thrills,' by Big Brother and the Holding Company; 'Child Is Father to the Man,' by Blood, Sweat & Tears; 'Bookends,' by Simon & Garfunkel; 'Songs of Leonard Cohen'; 'Music from Big Pink,' by the Band. These amount to sacred texts for a generation, covering a wide range of musical styles, and are still potent. They were all produced by John Simon, himself a musician and composer, who makes his first appearance in the city in some twenty years, with songs to sing and stories to tell."


Entered at Wed Apr 24 15:08:03 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Toronto Dylan 15.7.13

Thanks Kevin: I'll likely be in Victoria during that time. The lake venue is fairly good but I've recently been less partial to a) large open venues and b) multiple act shows, though Wilco and My Morning Jacket are good ones. The reviews for Dylan with Robillard have been very good. I see Steely Dan is going to appear there also on 21.7.13. I've seen Steely Dan there. Very good.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 07:30:00 CEST 2013 from (64.134.185.99)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: JT

Bob Dylan is returning to Toonto this summer with Wilco and My Morning Jacket in support......No other Canadian dates that I remember seeing.....Might be an interesting night by the lake......

I had suggested to Sebastian a while back that a mini-tour of Robbie and Garth in selected cities would be a great idea - I hope it happens soon.....With the right planning and promotion this would be a beautiful and dignified way to bring some light and joy to many.

Just got off a plane and listened to Jason Isbell live again much of the way - a David P suggestion from last year - run and out and buy it folks...it is sensational, Thank me later.............


Entered at Wed Apr 24 07:00:48 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: For the record (maybe)

Richie Valens was at times backed up during some of his live shows (when Buddy Holly was also on the bill) not by the original Crickets but other musicians who backed Buddy Holly during shows after the demise of the Crickets (so it has been written). Hence, maybe the confusion? But as far as I can find out, never by the original Crickets.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 05:03:42 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ari & Adam

I just wanted to take a moment to say how great it is to have young fans; such as Ari and Adam; on the site. It's important to keep the music of The Band alive and I know I'm not getting any younger :-)


Entered at Wed Apr 24 02:51:41 CEST 2013 from (75.34.39.180)

Posted by:

Adam

Thanks BEG - as you know any chance to see original Band members is an opportunity not to be passed up. So happy for you that you got to see Robbie live! I'm so thankful we have Garth & Robbie still creating new music.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 00:08:25 CEST 2013 from (184.145.67.233)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Angie, meant to tell you: good stuff. Glad you had such a great time in NYC.


Entered at Wed Apr 24 00:06:25 CEST 2013 from (67.71.1.196)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....that would be "I was higher than a LOST kite".

Here's a link (Wasn't it you Fred who first posted this music file site here?)....

You can hear the entire Festival and many other shows like the one Adam very recently attended...... :-D


Entered at Tue Apr 23 23:50:54 CEST 2013 from (67.71.1.196)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Tim...Please accept my apologies. I'm very glad that you're ok in Boston as I see that you've posted here. Your commitment to archiving the musical history of the Reformed Band is to be commended. I hope your fine city and people (as the Bostonians I met at Eric Clapton's shows proved to me) will never have to experience such horrific violence against humanity.

The Weber Brothers' Tribute to Levon Helm is now sold out for dinner and show. There might be room on a waiting list for standing room only....

Thank you Jed and others who wished they could have been at Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival. It was a once in a lifetime experience for me. I am so glad, I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad that I made the trek to NYC and not only experienced the music of my favourite guitar player......Robbie Robertson......but witnessed the music of so many musicians that I never would have had the initial interest to see.

I really enjoyed how they all played their own songs and then some of them would hook up with each other and make a different kind of magic. When you see John Mayer and Doyle Bramhall 11 perform together.....not only are they eye candy....but you're watching someone in their thirties and forties carry on the torch. Then there was 28 year old Gary Clark Jr. I'm not really into bluezzz from Texas (My brother catered for Stevie Ray Vaughan in Waterloo, Ontario in 1985? He didn't request beef.....but chicken!).....but as I said before......when you hear that not only can he play guitar but he sings like he's from Motown......You take notice.

I didn't appreciate the female back up singer for Jimmy Vaughan......Now the women who were performing with Jeff Beck.....yes........ Tal Wilkenfeld (bass), Beth Hart (back up), Lizzie Ball (violin). Let's hear it for the female musicians!!!!!!!!!

Yes Jed.....I read that Derek Trucks has a great relationship with Susan Tedeshi and when you watch him play.......understated cool. :-D Wow....His Uncle was the drummer for the original Allman Brothers Band.

I forgot to mention in my previous report.......I also got to see Booker T and Steve Cropper.....I kept thinking ok....They helped Otis and Otis helped them to create timeless music that has soul.....soul.....A lot of organists during the two nights.....just saying.....

Oh and before the first night began I met a couple from Philly. Uhhhhh....Guess what and who we talked about?!! I was on my best behaviour when she told me she campaigned for Sarah Palin as well..... ;-D Oh.....and Canadian Dan Aykroyd played blues harp and MC'd......I'm still higher than a kite......just like Robbie sings......"I was higher than a kite" and I wasn't even on nitrous oxide!!!!

Sorry.....I know that I blah, blah blah about music too much. :-D


Entered at Tue Apr 23 22:15:02 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

Live "Life Is A Carnival" from a Levon tribute concert in VT last year... full horn section and a killer band. Check this out!


Entered at Tue Apr 23 21:05:27 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Get Up Jake

Here in the U.S. Capitol made the same RoA labeling mistake twice, as "Get Up Jake" was first issued as the B-side to "Don't Do It" and later with "Ain't Got No Home". Due to the timing of these releases, it seems as if Capitol did intend to release the live version, but someone pulled the wrong master tape. Another anomaly is that they used the mono mix of the studio outtake from the Brown Album sessions recorded at Sammy Davis Jr.'s poolhouse.

I first remember hearing the song as the cover version on "Roger Tillison's Album" (Atco 1971), which featured the distinctive slide guitar of Jesse Ed Davis.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 21:01:46 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Caldonia was a dude (?)

The origins, disappearance and legacy of Yonge Street's Jackie Shane . . . .


Entered at Tue Apr 23 20:54:21 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Richie/links/BEG

What a loss.A true musical original.And,most grateful to everyone for the excellent links provided by folks here.In all that's happening I just wanted to mention again how moving and real the Levon doc was.So glad we got to see it.And,BEG-wonderful review.I first heard Derek Trucks when he was 10 and saw him open for Gregg Allman when Derek was 16.Been following him closely since.He is as decent and nice a human being as he is a superb guitarist.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 20:27:58 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ari

Ari. Don't mean to nit pick; but Ritchie Valens was never with The Crickets. It was Buddy Holly & The Crickets. Ritchie died with Buddy & The Big Bopper; in a plane crash in '59.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 19:54:03 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Richie Havens

No one had a voice quite like his. Great version of Just Like a Woman


Entered at Tue Apr 23 19:46:12 CEST 2013 from (66.65.92.140)

Posted by:

Ari

Err, Serenity you're great and I love reading all your posts so don't take this as nit-picking but you posted a video of Ritchie Valens from The Crickets not Ritchie Havens. Just wanted to let you know! I love Ritchie Havens, my dad saw him at the Stephen Talkhouse playing a Band song.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 19:34:23 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Amy Helm

Amy Helm's take on The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down (nice!), and a page on her site that compiles a bunch of different tribute-to-Levon concert clips.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 18:52:49 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Peter, good one.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 18:48:25 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rock of Ages tracks

Earlier today, I was in an e-mail exchange about Band singles with Ian Woodward who pointed out the following. On the "Don't Do It" / "Rag Mama Rag" single, there are matrix numbers for each side. For "Don't Do It", the number is 78631 and for "Rag Mama Rag", it is 78640. If you then list the tracks on the original ROCK OF AGES album in order, then these clearly represent the matrix numbers for individual tracks on the album, starting with 78631 for the opening track, "Don't Do It", through 78640 for "Rag Mama Rag" and ending, presumably, with 78647 for "(I Don't Want To) Hang Up My Rock And Roll Shoes".

Straightforward enough but, if you then go to the"Ain't Got No Home" / "Get Up Jake" single, the matrix number for the latter is 78634, which is in exactly the right sequential position for "Get Up Jake" on the ROCK OF AGES album. On the U.S. version of this single, this track was labelled as from the live album but was actually the studio cut. Even the U.K version of the single, which was not labelled as from the album, had the 78634 matrix number, as given to EMI by Capitol we must assume.

Did Capitol intend to release the live version of "Get Up Jake" but make a mistake?


Entered at Tue Apr 23 18:32:59 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Loved The Weight at Newport 2010. Thanks for the link … Richie Havens was great, as was the tuba solo, and Levon's drumming just reminds you that no one ever touches him on The Weight, nor ever will. You hope this stuff will emerge one day, but they cut off Amy & Teresa as they started the last verse, and rolled them straight into the chorus (either that or I fainted with pleasure and woke up 20 seconds later) so it won't.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 17:59:02 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Richie Havens

My tribute to the great Richie Havens. Who could forget this beautiful song? Also other goodies here too.. RIP dear Richie, you were one of the great ones..

CYA soon xoxoxo


Entered at Tue Apr 23 16:34:00 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: self indulgent drivel

There will always be. But its OUR drivel. That's what scrolling is for.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 16:12:50 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Location: Sydney, Australia
Web: My link

Subject: Lots of good stuff today... thanks everyone

plus some self indulgent drivel you can scroll past.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 15:39:07 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Richie Havens

John D and all: I always considered Richie Havens as unique (like Dylan). No one else sounded like him. His interpretations of the songs of others gave those songs a different life and made them his in that life. (Kind of what Madeline Peyroux does in her interpretations). John. Thank you for giving us insight into his person. I think it shines through in the way he approached the songs he recorded and in his performances live.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 15:38:42 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Link to that day of photo

Here they are doing The Weight at Newport 2010.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 15:27:20 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Richie, Levon, Glen Hansard and Larry Campbell

Lil just posted a beautiful photo of the four of them and also Levon's son-in-law; on her site. Apparently it is on Facebook. By the way, I have always felt that Richie owned Just Like A Woman. Loved his version.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 14:51:15 CEST 2013 from (198.179.198.1)

Posted by:

Calvin

If anyone has the chance search out a bit from one of Albert Brooks early comedy albums about being the opening act for a Havens concert, and the devotion of his fans.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 13:16:36 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Band clippings

A research request via e-mail to me. Has anyone got:

VARIETY for 6 October 1965, which contained a report, probably brief, on Levon and the Hawks.

It reported that the group had been signed by Atlantic, that their song publishing was with The Richmond Organization and that they were working with Dylan at several of his latest concerts.

Another issue of VARIETY (29 September, probably) contained a brief report on Dylan going up to Toronto to "try out" with The Hawks. It was probably was based on the report by Robert Fulford in the TORONTO DAILY STAR (18 September 1965), which exists as a photocopy but not in great quality and missing the full title. Has anyone got decent quality photocopies or scans of these two articles, too? Let me know, and I'll pass them on.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 07:27:39 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.109)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: I Shall Be Released - The Complete Song Ie: the last one minute included

LINK: Another angle of "I Shall Be Reeased" with the last minute of it included. Better quality sound and camera as well.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 06:21:18 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.3)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Bitch

Linked above, rock and roll never dies.


Entered at Tue Apr 23 06:20:39 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.173)

Posted by:

Adam

John D - Thank you so much for your kind words about my articles... that means the most to me and is the reason I do it!


Entered at Tue Apr 23 05:08:17 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Happy Earth Day to all...

Hi all;- So nice to be back here once again reading ALL the great posts and going into the links.

Mine is on a tour including Bob Dylan.Go to his site for more info. Some good artists will be also there..

RIP dear LEVON. we miss you sooo much..

JIM: Welcome to the best site you will find anywhere..

ARI: Good post, and very interesting, as ALL posts are here..

BEG: Words can't describe how wonderful to read your review at CROSSROADS. Almost felt like I was sitting right next to you. What a lucky girl you are to be there..

CYA soon.... Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo



Entered at Tue Apr 23 00:39:05 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Richie Havens

In my entire career, I interviewed Richie more than any other artist. He was a sweet kind man. My first interview with him was two years before his Woodstock appearance. He sang among other things, the songs of The Band and Bob Dylan. His hands were so big he could use one of his fingers as a capo.

R.I.P. Richie


Entered at Mon Apr 22 23:33:14 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I saw the YouTube I Shall Be Released the first day, thought it brilliant and was very moved. Then it disappeared (at least in England). I hadn't known it was back until reading below just now, but enjoyed it just as much again this time. I was also appalled at the comments that had got stuck on there, but they were "the usual suspects" and in fact you're hard put to find ANY YouTube entry without some one grousing about it.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 23:21:17 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

One of the defining moments of the 60's.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 23:16:40 CEST 2013 from (24.105.216.125)

Posted by:

Lil

RIP Richie Havens. Sad. I really liked him.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 22:50:49 CEST 2013 from (97.116.114.213)

Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: Robbie...

Great review Beg..Robbie is a special musician no doubt and I'm glad you got to finally see him play. The video I've seen of him playing ISBR blew me away when I when I first heard it. The emotion RR had in his voice when he dedicated it to his friends was just a hint of what was to come. He sang it and played it like a man who obviously holds this time with these people in a special place. I can only imagine what it must of been like to have been there...


Entered at Mon Apr 22 21:31:28 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Agreeing with Libby.....

.......As I obviously do or I would not have printed it………….I just hope that her message and mine and John D’s gets through so that young Band fans/new Band fans like Ari and Adam can “turn up” a happening like RR playing of “I Shall Be Released” without having to be subjected to the kind of “comments” that were there on Youtube….that are always there every time the man who wrote the words and music to so many of the Band songs that people celebrate and pocket money to play makes any kind of appearance.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 20:54:19 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

And I would agree as well Pat.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 20:49:47 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Just agreeing with Libby.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 20:39:31 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Please let's get back to music

Please, please, can we just get back to the music now and as someone once taught me, "Stop trying to crawl into somebody else's head." Whatever happened between members of the Band was and is THEIR business. No one else. Armchair quarterbacking wont get you anywhere in life. Thank you.

Turn up the volume.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 20:23:08 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Kevin J, as most know, the "facts" of the fued are all there in the library on this site.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 19:44:47 CEST 2013 from (63.146.32.54)

Posted by:

Calvin

That is an amazing post Kevin. I hadnt read that quote-and frankly I feel those people who degrade either Robbie or Levon because of some precieved loyalty to one or the other are doing no service to the man they seek to defend.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 19:25:27 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Mike Nomad: Thank you.

BEG & Ari: I really enjoyed your reports and reviews……..and don’t let the haters and lunatics that stalk RR’s every step interfere with your love of the Band or of feelings towards Robbie, Rick, Richard, Garth or Levon. Especially Levon… instead, if you are ever feeling blue or confused about these things, reflect on Amy Helm hugging Robbie at the hospital and most importantly what Amy Helm’s mother had to say about the matter last year to Band biographer Barney Hoskyns:

“The story of Robbie and Levon is much more complex than the bloggers and the press understand,” Libby Titus-Fagen wrote me on April 25. “I can tell you that for the years I was with Levon, from 1968 to 1974, they each shared a part of the other’s soul. One would start a sentence, pause, and the other would finish it. They had their own alphabet, their own clock, their own DNA, a Levon-Robbie double helix. When I called Robbie to say Levon was dying, he was stunned, shattered—he thought Levon had beaten the cancer. Robbie flew to New York to say goodbye. Amy, Donald and I were in the waiting room, and I don’t know what Robbie said to Levon for the long time he spent by his bedside. All I know is that there’s a side to this life-and-death song no one has heard. Levon wouldn’t want this bitterness to ramble on any longer.”

I respect fully people defending others, defending friends but when that defense starts to get creepy and when it tarnishes the reputation of another person – of a band that has brought us all so much joy then it is time that they just give it a rest.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 19:14:48 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BEG

Great review of the concert. There has been a lot of good music/movies around the past few weeks. I only regret is I can't see all of it.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 18:14:14 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Record Store Day "Wigwam (unreleased version)" / "Thirsty Boots (unreleased) from Bob Dylan says on the back that both are from "the Forthcoming Bootleg Series Vol. 10" and I thought 'fine, I like Self Portrait.' Then I thought, hang on … Self Portrait has four Isle of Wight tracks with The Band. Will some of the unreleased stuff be live?


Entered at Mon Apr 22 17:59:05 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: High Time We Went

The A&M 45 single version of "High Time We Went", which Joe Cocker co-wrote with his longtime keyboardist Chris Stainton, was released 42 years ago next month. I vividly remember that it was an often played selection on the jukebox at the "World Famous" Allen's bar in the Normaltown section of Athens, GA.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 17:35:14 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Great report on guitar legends and The Rascals, BEG. I was also pleased that you got to see "Once". The London production is also great (but the CD they sell is the NYC one … at least, so far.

Rock of Ages … I agree that the barrel has probably been scraped clean on content. I'd think a 5.1 mix more likely, as with MFBP and TLW. Both very well done too.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 15:39:45 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks for the detailed report. Smart choice, spending the extra dollars. Replacement money is likely to come your way long before another chance to see Robbie does.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 12:02:32 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.173)

Posted by:

Adam

The "Rock Of Ages" deluxe edition is absolutely fantastic news. Of course, I don't think the main attraction will be unreleased music. The remaster of ROA from the 2000 reissue series featured the original album, plus the outtakes from the first set (without horns) and the Dylan guest appearance. "Smoke Signal" was released on A Musical History, so to date every single song performed at the Academy Of Music run (except "Strawberry Wine" - missing tape?) has been officially released.

I am very hopeful that more video footage from the ROA concerts has been found. And if that is the case, I would be willing to bet that Robbie has been remixing the album for 5.1 or something similar, to match with the newly found footage and make a DVD release. Robbie already remixed tracks for the A Musical History box set.

Photos from the concerts clearly show camera men on stage. There's even that photo in Jan's archive of "W.S. Walcott" - Garth in front of the horn section with tenor sax, camera men behind Levon, etc., capturing it all. For A Musical History, it was said that Robbie vaguely remembered the concerts being filmed and that "Don't Do It" finally surfaced after looking through film cans or something like that. So I am very excited, and I think we can expect a beautiful, expanded packing, maybe the tracklist re-structured in concert running order?, and more DVD footage. Amazing, amazing news.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 07:09:35 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Juno gets at least part of it right

I dislike virtually all music award shows. But, like a moth drawn to light, I watch. Tonight a pleasant surprise. Leonard Cohen is recognized. And Katherine Dawn Lang receives what amounts to a life time achievement award from Canadian music. The voice of all voices. K.D. Lang. Sometimes there is a little gold that can find its way to the surface.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 07:00:35 CEST 2013 from (64.231.176.8)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon Helm, Bo Diddley and Johnny Paycheck Live from the LoneStar Cafe


Entered at Mon Apr 22 06:47:07 CEST 2013 from (64.231.176.8)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Deb!! It was so good to "see" you again. I wish all the Robbiesonians were right by my side having so much fun and joy to see Robbie on stage. At one point it was so surreal because I waited sooooooo long to witness something that was important to me.
Thank you Ari, Kevin J, Rod and Al Edge for wishing me well or wanting a review from the show. Here are some reflections.....

It's great that the videos have been posted so we can watch them over and over again. When you watch Robbie during his first song "HDLHNM" and you hear someone yelling.........I think that was me as I had floor seats on this night as well and closer to the stage than the first night.......I just let it all out!!!!!!! I was just so full of joy and excitement. I ended up sitting beside someone who also left their partner at home in Toronto. lol The Bostonians behind me were great. They were so appreciative when I gave them Sebastian's scoops and when I remembered musicians from the night before like Blake MIlls. Very different shows so I was glad that I was privileged to be at both shows. I took Richard Manuel's mantra of "Spend it all"......and I did. I have absolute no regrets. Anyway, the woman sitting behind me tapped me on the shoulder and said, "Look, you paid a lot for these seats. Get up anytime you want. I bet this show was on your bucket list." When Robbie came on stage after Keith Richards (Robbie always had the stronger voice.).......I got up. Otherwise, I'm pretty reserved and laid back (typical Canadian ;-D) but when Robbie made his presence felt......I felt like a teenager seeing my guitar hero for the first time.....which was the first time. I just wanted Robbie's solos in his songs.....to be longer......He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone......but.....I wanted those who didn't see him perform on Yonge Street, perform with Dylan, perform at Festival Express, perform at The Last Waltz....to experience his emotional guitar playing.....his tasteful guitar playing.....none of the shredding that teenagers dig or fans who don't have refined tastes......My turn to be a snob now........And Robbie's very astute and clever......He hardly plays live anywhere......and yet......when he does perform.....the world sees him play. Bravo!

When Robbie performed "I Shall Be Released", I think it was hard for him to dedicate this song to his former bandmates because of the politics that Ari alluded to.....You can hear some fans yell out Levon's name here.....It was this song that I choked up but sang along with Robbie for the entire song. Everyone can relate to this song in some way as we all want to be released.....from someone or something or......both. I was thinking Robbie could also have performed "Out Of The Blue" from "Any Given Sunday"....instrumental piece showcasing his elegant guitar licks as well. I still would have loved for Robert Randolph to have performed on the second night with Robbie......In any case......Robbie still has it goin' on......

I was disappointed he didn't perform a third song......but was glad he was one of the musicians from two nights to be a part of the finale. I kept singing Joe Cocker's "High Time We Went" in my head for the six days I was in NYC......I do have to say that when the musicians on stage did their brief solos....You couldn't hear everyone's individual guitar licks very well....The back up band.....phenomenal.....

Some pleasant surprises for me during the two nights.....Citizen Cope was pure cool and his music just flowed for me. The person who was sitting close to me from Hamilton......small world as he not only knows Daniel Lanois but......goes camping with him......wasn't impressed here. He kept wanting to buy me drinks and was hitting on me. When John Mayer was performing "Slow Dancing In A Burning Room" he offered to put his arms around me and dance the night away. What can I say.....music and beer and magic.......He couldn't believe that I came solo but I told him for Robbie.......yes yes!!

Best hair in no particular order.....Doyle Bramhall 11, John Mayer, and Robbie Robertson!

It was a great break when jazz musician Earl Klugg performed. imagezulu would have loved the jazz and bluezzzzz guys but he would not have had the patience for an almost five hour night both nights of mixed genres.....I was so glad that that he had to work in TO.

Gary Clark Jr.......not only does he epitomize "cool"......He can sing falsetto like Smokey Robinson!!!!!!!! I noticed that when he was playing during the finale, Robbie was bobbing his head as I was......

I was never a fan of the Allman Brothers......but......but......The songs that I did dig like "Whipping Post" and "Statesboro Blues".......were performed in fine style as Gregg's voice is great!!!

Jeff Beck.....I know that he's considered a "god" to many and yes, I'm sure he's the most skilled technically but.....I just wasn't feeeeeelin' it. I'll check out the videos and see if he grows on me. It's all personal taste anyway....I was overjoyed to see he still had the young female bass player with him. I liked her energy here for sure. Btw, Jeff, Doyle......wearing lovely scarves....Robbie must have influenced them.....I guess only "real" men wear scarves. ;-D

Doyle Bramhall's dedication to his late Dad......drummer for Hopkins was moving.....He has that "it" factor......It's hard to keep your eyes off of him.

Keith Urban did a great cover with Mayer of the Beatles' "Don't Let Me Down" showcased his singing skills and although he's not very big in stature....There's something about him that draws you in......I mentioned it before.....There's a genuinely sweet spirit about him.......love it!

Hey Tenn.....I think you used to blah, blah, blah about Los Lobos all the time here. I didn't know their music at all but when they sang in spanish which I really enjoyed.....The Bostonians behind me tapped me on the shoulder again and asked me to translate.....I said sorry, but I'm not spanish, but I could pass for one.

I was disappointed that Susan Tedeshi didn't play guitar......I didn't like that she sang back up.....These kind of shows need to show that women are also capable of being in the forefront in order to inspire a new generation of female musicians so that one day we don't have to mention their gender at all.

I've seen BB King a few times but this time.....87!!! I laughed when he told the other musicians who were sitting on chairs like himself that since they're a lot younger that there was no excuse. When he couldn't quite reach a high note...He was so self-deprecating and kept pointing to his throat.....Robert Cray could care less.....He was genuinely pleased to be on stage with him once again as BB is so well respected.

I have seen Derek Trucks before but I couldn't get into all the fusion that was going on.....but this time I could see his guitar work and noticed how he always keeps his thumb flat while playing guitar and he's just so unassuming and laid back......Pure joy to watch him.

I enjoyed Buddy Guy this time more than when we saw him at Massey Hall because he talked so much and played so little but not during the two nights this time!...He's 74 and still going strong and I loooove how he brought along his 14 year old protege Quinlin to perform. He just closes his eyes and does his thing.

I've seen Robert Cray a couple of times but this time....He stepped up his performance. I always felt that because he was one of the younger bluezzz musicians.....before Mayer and Gary Clark Jr......He helped to keep the bluezzzzzz alive for people like me.......

The best word to sum up two nights at Eric Clapton's Crossroads Guitar Festival is what I heard from others who were sitting and/or standing close to me......UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!

When I saw The Rascals I wished Pat B was sitting right beside me......The lighting was excellent......like at David Bowie show.....I think Brickman did do the Diamond Dog Tour as well. I was so impressed with Edie Brigati's energy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was bouncing around the entire show of about 28 songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When he spoke about his leaving the band was his fault and that he and the band owed a lot to Felix.......Wow........Everyone knew......They had finally made up and they weren't just performing for their retirement days.....It was a heartfelt moment that I'll never forget. This time I was sitting beside Joisey folks.....The woman beside me told me she was only there because her husband is a huuuuge fan. I told her.....be patient.......You might not know the names of the songs but you'll recognize them once they start playing. Someone behind us sang the words to every song. I turned around and said that he could be their under study.....He was unbelieveable. When The Rascals sang my favourite......"People Got To Be Free"........I went crazy!!!!!!!!!

The other nights I saw the musical "Once".....The female actress/singer/piano player was exceptional. I also saw Ballet Hispanico...three very modern dance pieces....lacking in emotion for me that night. I was going to change my flight so I could see "Motown" as well but since I may be back at the end of June for Garland Jeffreys' 70th birthday party I decided to wait......not sure at this point....I still feeeeeeeel high from last week!!!!!!!! :-DDD


Entered at Mon Apr 22 05:46:06 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.82)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Canuckistani cold-front moving i-in

Pat B: "He comes from the land of the ice and snow", the opening line of "The Immigrant Song", is doubtless a playful reference to the Band. Robbie returned to the idea a few years later with "They call my home the land of snow".


Entered at Mon Apr 22 05:23:51 CEST 2013 from (66.65.92.140)

Posted by:

ari

Ain't In It For My Health is great.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 03:09:21 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

As a few added notes, both Page and Plant name check The Band as inspiring LZ III. John Paul Jones lifted a bit of Garth for an unreleased LZ song. And two of the better LZ books are authored by Stephen Davis and Barney Hoskyns.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 02:43:26 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Actually, the Yardbirds did the song after they saw a Holmes performance. They recorded it for a live album that was released some years later. Page used the one lick and added a bunch more. He also re-wrote the lyrics.

Holmes sued and settled out of court. The credit now reads "Inspired by Jake Holmes."

There are a number of good books about LZ that trace their appropriation of many old blues songs.


Entered at Mon Apr 22 01:51:47 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.3)

Posted by:

Billy C. Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Things I Didn't Know/ Dazed and Confused

Didn't know Led Zepelin ripped off JAke Holmes for Dazed and Confused. See the link.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 21:46:08 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Previous Post of mine

Actually there wouldn't be too much of a change. Just add Rando, Garth and Jimmy V to the existing band.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 21:38:36 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Here's A Thought

The cast of the Tarrytown show Garth, Jimmy V etc) plus the Levon Helm Ramble Band. Probably would be expensive to book; because of all the members; but that would be some band and singers to see. Have LHS put this combination together yet?


Entered at Sun Apr 21 21:31:52 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.3)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Just Another Whistle Stop

Linked
Garth is wailing on this. You have to really listen, but he is wailing. Weider, of course, excellent.



Entered at Sun Apr 21 21:31:16 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: ROA

Well, it's probably just me; but I prefer the sound of the original ROA; as opposed to the reissue; with the bonus tracks.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 21:16:33 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.3)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Pat- The most Bandlike show without 4 members, absolutely some of the Rick and Richard shows i saw. And i saw plenty of em. However, some of those 80s Band shows with Richard at The Lone Star absolutely smoked.Later shows, a few runs before Ricahrd left. And there were some other shows later, without richard that were often amazing too, and you heard The Band shine through as much as possible at times.. ....



Entered at Sun Apr 21 20:53:53 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin, the British press made similar points … that 85 people a day die from bullets in the USA, while the NRA's lapdogs in congress oppose doing anything whatsoever about it.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 20:52:18 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

RoA had very little of the music from the actual shows. There were also rehearsals that were recorded. It's still unclear whether the video of Don't Do It was from one of the shows or a rehearsal/soundcheck at the Academy. Personally, I'd rather hear Royal Albert Hall 1971.

The most Band-like show I ever saw was a Rick/Richard duo. By far.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 19:36:02 CEST 2013 from (92.19.33.230)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: ROA

The deluxe edition edition of RoA sounds interesting. But what could it possibly contain that wasn't in the last re-issue? How about a deluxe edition complete with dvd? I'm sure more footage of that night does exist.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 16:43:28 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Adam

Adam....you do get around. Lets read some more articles.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 16:13:30 CEST 2013 from (184.145.67.233)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Kevin J

Re " . . . anyone else find it troubling that . . . ," good stuff, Kevin. You've become the new Steve. Long time. About time. Refreshing . . . .


Entered at Sun Apr 21 11:06:11 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.173)

Posted by:

Adam

I also completely agree with Ari - "All La Glory" by guest Amy Helm was so touching and amazing. I also had a few tears in my eyes for that.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 11:04:43 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.173)

Posted by:

Adam

Ari - I agree, would have loved to say hello. Next time for sure! I'm happy to hear your comments on the show.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 10:39:29 CEST 2013 from (74.101.159.143)

Posted by:

Ari

Subject: Garth's Show, Adam

Adam, I didn't realize you were there! If I had known I would have come up and said hello! I went with my two younger brothers who are still in highschool and live in Westchester so I came up to go with them for the easy trip, I'm pretty sure they were the only individuals in the auditorium under the drinking age but we all love The Band just the same (my parents aren't huge Band fans but they unanimously agree that Rick Danko is the Band's best singer and that It Makes No Difference is their best song). Needless to say we were blown away. I'm pretty. Can't tell you how excited we were. Was surprised to see Jimmy Vivono on piano. I honestly don't like him to much, I'm not sure why. He seems too get irritated very quickly with the audience and makes agressive comments. When i saw him with Levon at The Beacon there were some fans calling out old Band songs and Vivono really obnoxiously, said something along the lines of "We're gonna play some of the new songs instead. That alright with you people?" It did not say it in a playful way, it was obnoxious and ever since then I've always been skeptical of him. Nonetheless I really like Jim Weider, and he seems like a guy with real humility, I can only imagine how much a guy can endure being in constant comparison and scrutinization. He must have heard "Where's Robbie" a good number of times. But he's a great Tele player, a classic Tele player, sounds like James Burton to me. I also like Byron Issacs, the bass player. I liked how they cast The Band last night based on who sings the song. Byron sang Rick, Jimmy sang Richard and Randy sang Levon for the most part. Jimmy is not to interesting of a singer at all and I was surprised he played piano and not guitar (except for on Goin to Acapulco). That said it's funny to me that the songs that were best last night were actually Richard Manuel songs, most of which were rarely, and in some cases, never played. It was great to hear Jawbone played live, especially hearing an original member play it live. It's official everyone, Jawbone has now been played by 1/5 of The Band live. Finally! The highlights for me were not Dixie (although it was great) but Just Another Whistle Stop was a kick and Weider really killed that solo. I was worried in the beginning that the whole thing was going to be marred by technical issues since Garth was clearly getting upset with the keyboard on the first songs of the set. Right in the middle of their first number, This Wheel's On Fire, Weider's guitar fell out during his solo. Took about a minute to get the guitar back. They played almost everything on the Brown album sans Rag Mama Rag, Jemima and When You Awake (good omissions to me, Rag Mama is overplayed live). Whispering Pines was played and it nice but at first a little off-putting as it was played a little harder. Byron and Jimmy did the Levon and Richard call and response bit at the end really beautifully. Byron really hears the harmony that Rick was great at. He was great during Unfaithful Servant and Weider played the solo perfectly, he even played the horn section following the guitar solo, it was great. \ That said, the best songs of the night in my opinion, and I think my brothers both agreed, were When I Paint My Masterpiece (with Jimmy on acoustic and Jimmy on mandolin), The Shape I'm In, Stage Fright, Time To Kill (Jimmy nailed the solo on his beautiful Tele) and Sleeping (so happy that that song lives on, it's more popular than we all think, see the Mark Ruffalo film "The Brothers Bloom" and Bob Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour for proof of this). Sleeping is such a beautiful song, very complex, I tried to play the drum part today since I'm home and I think it may be the hardest drum line of any Band song I've tried to play (the other that comes to mind as coming close is MAYBE Jawbone, and Dixie is nearly impossible to do when singing). Anyways the brilliance of Sleeping gives me chills, just the fact that it's about Sleeping, the only other song about sleeping that I like is I'm So Tired, but I don't even take that song too seriously. Richard is great with chords and progressions. Brilliant, complex composer. You all know this already.

But, the very very very very best of the night was to be honest just one of the best live performances I've ever seen in my life thus far. It was when Amy Helm came out and sang All la Glory. She has really grown into a strong singer, it brought me to tears. That just blew everything else out of the water. I did like when Garth tried to tell a story and in typical Garth fashion was entirely unintelligible. So much so that the audience began shouting "Can't hear you Garth!" In keeping with the Garth persona, Garth did not hear, or chose not to hear any of this and Maud had to notify him "They can't hear you". He didn't respond to that either so from her wheelchair she reached across the piano and tried to readjust the microphone. I love Garth and Maud. Garth loves giving thumbs up.

It occurred to me when I was in Tarrytown, whose highschool team we used to play in tennis back in the day, that it's the town where Don Draper lives in Mad Men.

Really happy to read what Robbie wrote in his post about dedicating the song to Levon, Richard and Rick. He is such a gentleman and is the reason we're all here talking about this music, it saddens me like no other that everyone in the Levon camp has encouraged this hatred and slandering of Robbie's name. He gave you all so much! It's a money issue, Levon lived a great life, he obviously had to go through some hardships but honestly that's no reason to go off destory another man's name. Robbie Robertson is a good man, the consummate musician: songwriter, guitarist, and artist in general. Anyways I'll stop before I get all fired up. I can't wait until his book comes out and sets everything straight, too bad Levon couldn't be around to read all the nice things Robbie'll say about him. \ I'm sorry I couldn't see you Joan and Jed, I'm seeing Ain't In For My Health when I get back home tomorrow with my girlfriend the 9:10 showing. I've successfully gotten her interested in The Band, she just bought and listened to MFBP and the Brown album after hearing King Harvest. She says King Harvest is her favorite song of the two albums followed by Lonesome Suzie, she loves the singer's falsetto. Her parents live in New Paltz so I get to go upstate all the time. She's 40 minutes away from Saugerties so I think we might take a trip over there to Big Pank again. I do love driving alot, so much so that I've been keeping my car in the city since my film shoot ended this past March.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 10:22:34 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.173)

Posted by:

Adam

I also spoke with Garth about his setup throughout last night. He used two Yamaha keyboards in front, A LOWREY ON HIS LEFT!, a Hammond B3 on his right, a third Roland keyboard top left, and a red Galanti accordion. In back of him was a large row of pipes, for the Lowrey I assume.

The Lowrey was not the horseshoe ones from the original Band. It looked just like the Hammond almost. Garth is a musical genius in every sense of the word.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 10:10:19 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.116)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Kevin, The Band's been done a long time now. Since Rick died. I've never needed to be reminded of it, but last night's show really drove it home. Personally, i feel the spirit of The Band in Garth's playing. The true spirit of The Band was also in Levon's joy,and his drumming, and well, it was even in his cancer ravaged speaking voice. And it was also associated with his public persona. And, in many ways it was also part of his non public person...that all really also holds true for Rick, and Garth, the true spirit of The Band was/ is in their public and non public personas.. Richard and Robbie, i don't feel that holds water. though in those cases, well, i have no knowledge of Robbie's personal side, and only saw Richard out, never had more conversation than hello, etc..

For me, it's left in Garth's playing. I'll never forget some of those duo shows, Garth and Maud, where, with a few touches of Garth's finger, the essence of Rick Danko walked right into the song and the room for a moment.

For me, Garth's left to keep the Band's music and spirit going. The guys in The Band were irreplaceable. On a - really bad day - the 80s and 90s band were beyond anything available since. Last night's show had some moments. Getting to hear Garth, well, it's always a joy. Anyone who accopmplishes that has done a wonderful thing. Kudos to Jimmy V for presentng Garth to the public another time.

Looks like Tokyo is the next lucky city that will get a live Garth Hudson performance..


Entered at Sun Apr 21 09:35:09 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.109)

Posted by:

Kevin J

c. C. C, Hmmmmm......thanks Jeff for the reviews of the show.......nice to hear TNTDODD.............Would love to see this collection of guys.... I really like Weider's playing.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 09:16:38 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.116)

Posted by:

Billy C, (Friend0

Subject: 1st set or 2nd set.? Songs Of The Band.

As more yotube videos are published, and as more make there way here,a good rule of thumb for you guys to differntiate between the first and second sets is Jimmy V's hat. In the first set, Jimmy was wearing what seemed to be a light blue or white very wide brimmed hat.After intermission he appeared in a much smaller black hat.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 09:04:31 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.116)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Dixie/ Across the Great Divide


Entered at Sun Apr 21 08:58:47 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.109)

Posted by:

Kevin J

......well, well......we have Billy going lower case and Adam driving a long way to see the show......I imagine that there was more than a drunk waiter and a one armed go go dancer in the place.....so in a Band legend kind of way - happy that a fight did not break out!

BEG: Hurry on home.........Boom Boom Mancini's fighting Bobby Chacon........looking forward to your review of Crossroads ( and happy you got to see a very special performance of "I Shall Be Released" by Robbie )........also looking forward to Adam's review of Garth's SOTB show.

........anyone else find it troubling that a pimply faced wounded 19 year old could elude capture while being hunted by 10,000 law enforcement agents for 3 days for the crime of killing 3 people and that at this very same time the US Senate voted down legislation that would have required background checks for gun purchasers.......and that while that manhunt was going on and the US Senate was shamefully caving to the lobbying power of the NRA....12 young American black kids were killed by hand gun ......just wondering if crowds of freshly scrubbed white kids will erupt in cheers of "USA USA" when those killers are hunted down? Not that they will be...........Some neighborhoods live in terror 24 hours a day 365 days a year and CNN and fat stupid baseball players don't give a fuck........sad.........


Entered at Sun Apr 21 08:41:33 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.116)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: New Dates

Sister Maud announced new dates, apparently recently finalized.. Paraphrasing Sister Maud- Two days before Garth's 75th birthday Garth said " I'm ready." "Ready for what?" she said she asked. "To go on tour." She then said that Garth and she have two dates in Japan, i believe both in August, in Tokyo.

Jimmy V's new band, The Barnburners, has a date June 4th at the Iridium, linked above. Clearly, Jimmy V loves Weiders playing too.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 08:25:52 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.116)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Bill, Weider played phenomenally well last night.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 05:43:20 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.82)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

John D: st Clement Hall, 76 Overlea.

Bonk: Funny you should mention this. We drove up to Barrie to catch Curley Bridges guesting at a matinee there. And who should be playing a matinee at annother bar just down the street but Whitey Glan and Terry Logan (who you will probably remember from the Saturday matinees R&B jams at the Zanz - with Bobby Dean and Bill Blackburn). Whitey and I chatted a bit about the the George Olliver tribute, and also about Whitey and the Roulettes - the proto-Mandala group that connsisted of Whitey, George, Don Elliot and Mike McKenna.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 05:39:16 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.173)

Posted by:

Adam

700 miles to see The Band? That's nothing! Just got back from driving Chicago to Tarrytown, New York. Wonderful "Songs of The Band" concert last night. I had a wonderful after show, talking with Jimmy V, Byron Isaacs, Jim Weider and Randy Ciarlante. I got to meet Amy Helm for the first time, and tell her how meeting Levon just once changed my life. And Garth & Maud Hudson are beautiful people that I love so dearly. I had a wonderful time at dinner with them after the show. All will follow in my soon published article.


Entered at Sun Apr 21 05:24:48 CEST 2013 from (72.230.109.86)

Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: teleman.....

Last time I saw Jim Weider was a couple years ago. He grows progressively as a guitar player and though he has a good and likely growing fanbase, he's a well kept secret who deserves more recognition. In my opinion........


Entered at Sun Apr 21 01:04:12 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: John D

Here ya go John. St. Clement Hall, 76 Overlea Blvd. More info at songtown.ca Cheers, Carl


Entered at Sat Apr 20 23:45:06 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: RoA

The deluxe edition edition of RoA sounds interesting. But what could it possibly contain that wasn't in the last re-issue?


Entered at Sat Apr 20 23:34:08 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: John D

John. Waiting for my friend to get back to me with location. Some of the line-up are George, Steve Ambrose, Bobby Dupont, Cathy Young, Betty Richardson, Whitey Glan, Mike McKenna and Jay Douglas. It starts at 6pm and I'll let you know where soon. Shit! I wish I was back in T.O. for this one.


Entered at Sat Apr 20 22:26:49 CEST 2013 from (209.2.61.8)

Posted by:

Billy c. (Friend0

Subject: Show Last Night

Briefly- my laptop is down, i'm in the library.

Garth was wonderful. Vivino and Isaacs opened with one #, excellent. Then the rest of the guys cam on. Garth did a long aacordion piece that put you somewhere in Venice or Rome, and was, well, something not often heard anymore, anywhere in this world. It led into This Wheels On Fire.

Songwise, they did em all. Even Dixie. the first set was pretty loud, the second set started out more ear and mix friendly. Garth and Amud doing Ti makes No Difference. For me, this was the best part of the show, Then the band joined for Don't Do It, mostly puctutated bu\y Garth's great piano and Maud's vocal. It was not your typical version and started out wonderful.v

Vivino was in fine voice the first set, very very strong. Weider played some killer guitar stuff. i have to admit i was dismayed when a few songs in, some guys were yelling for him to turn up his guitar. It was at a very good level, and the band was so loud that were i was sitting, 9th row, on the right, it was hard to hear garth when they were all blasting. Jimmy's piano, Isaacs bass, Randy's drums, were all up. So, during full band roar, there were times Garth's cntributions were genius and apparent, other times it was harder to hear.When the band was not all balring, and he was very evident, What /garth was palyign was genius. He did get a good share of features. Gentic Method, Chest fever, a long instur\merntal at another time, maybe french girls.. Garth was great. the accordion solo alone was worth the ticket,....Amy sang Al la Glory....more another time....


Entered at Sat Apr 20 20:20:07 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bonk

Where and when Bonk?


Entered at Sat Apr 20 19:40:35 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Levon documenrtary

Saw the Levon movie last night. A sold out show. The movie was very well done, and very enjoyable. Lots of "Levon stories' The audience applauded at the end. The Documentary maker took some questions from the audience. Someone asked there was anyone he didn't get to interview and he said "no, I didn't talk to Robbie"

Very well done. Nice to see Levon . I would recommend catching if you can.


Entered at Sat Apr 20 19:23:42 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

Bonk

Subject: John D and Bill M

Hey boys. I see where George Oliver is celebrating 50 years in the music biz this Sunday. Hell of a line-up of people from the sixties and seventies helping him. Know anything about it?


Entered at Sat Apr 20 14:05:41 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Levon Movie

Saw the afternoon show yesterday.Very moving.Honest.So glad I saw it.


Entered at Sat Apr 20 11:28:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Record Store Day

The phenomenon grows. My favourite store opened at 8 am, so I drove out to get there for 7.30 by which time the line was 80 to 100 strong outside the door, and one guy had been waiting two days. I drove straight past and went to a smaller, newer store that's only just started. I was about 13th in line, but we weren't having dinner, so I wasn't superstitious. Very friendly crowd, and they opened at 8.30 instead of the advertised 9, and we all trooped downstairs to the vinyl department. You stand in line with two people browsing at the front. The two guys at the front appeared to take one each of nearly everything. Everyone was after the Parlophone EP "Bowie 65" with his two rarest singles on (The Manish Boys, Davey Jones & The Lower Third, I think), but I reckon the first two got both copies. Also the Leonard Cohen / Jeff Buckley single and The Rolling Stones 5 x 5 EP.

But I did get Wigwam (unreleased version) though, and Anji by Davey Graham, and the Record Store Day Shuggie Otis compilation LP and the very interesting Grateful Dead / Dr John record which just has a ? on the sleeve … no artist name nor track info. Nice friendly crowd in the queue. The guy in front passed me back the Dylan … last copy.

In the fever of the moment I also found I'd bought The Doors "Soul City: in Rhino's Side By Side series. I don't know how or why I bought it. But I admit it. I think the fever was such that I might have bought Little Boxes if it had been in a nice Record Store Day sleeve.

The Bowie 65 will be on the internet at huge prices by now. No store got more than two copies apparently. So posting this at 10.30 in the UK, so if you read over breakfast in North America you still have time.


Entered at Sat Apr 20 06:32:24 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.109)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Great News from RR's Facebook Page

"At Eric Clapton's Crossroads Concert in NYC I did the song 'I Shall Be Released' which The Band recorded on our first album. I told the audience it was in remembrance of some dear old friends. Most people knew I was referring to Levon (who passed away one year ago today), Rick and Richard. "We are mixing and putting together a deluxe edition of The Band's album Rock Of Ages -- Live At The Academy Of Music. Hearing my Bandmates perform at the top of their game is so moving and powerful. I miss those days and miss them so much.

Thank God, Garth is still with us and making beautiful music. -Robbie"


Entered at Sat Apr 20 03:30:15 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.109)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: .....and as told by RR as told to him by Ronnie Hawkins

...."Well Son, you won't make much money, but you will get more.........

Funny follow-up, 35 years after TLW, Canada's premier news anchor Peter Mansbridge asked Robbie if Ronnie had been right.........he just smiled and replied that Ronnie usually was! That story by itself encouraged a lot of young guys to pick up a guitar....


Entered at Fri Apr 19 23:00:55 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Favourite Lines from Levon in TLW

Yeah, New York, it was an adult portion. It was an adult dose. So it took a couple of trips to get into it.

You just go in the first time and you get your ass kicked and you take off. As soon as it heals up, you come back and you try it again

Eventually, you fall right in love with it.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 22:52:21 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Favourite Line from Richard in TLW

"I just want to break even."


Entered at Fri Apr 19 21:59:50 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

….and I always enjoyed Richard’s response to Ruth Spencer when she said that she wished she had gone to TLW….He replied “Yeah, I wish I could have been there”


Entered at Fri Apr 19 21:50:43 CEST 2013 from (72.230.109.86)

Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: "so was I"

The first time I met Rick I told him I was at the LW. Guess what he said?


Entered at Fri Apr 19 18:58:47 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Once, when a fan told Levon he had driven 700 miles to see The Band, Levon looked him right in the eye, laughed and said, "So did I!"


Entered at Fri Apr 19 18:37:25 CEST 2013 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

mike h

Web: My link

Levon's last performance on 03/31/12...


Entered at Fri Apr 19 18:23:05 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

I'm going to see the Levon documentary tonight, Looking forward to it. Anyone else going?


Entered at Fri Apr 19 16:31:45 CEST 2013 from (71.184.199.161)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: Levon

Thinking of Levon today. One year later and 29 years to the day I first saw him with The Band in Connecticut.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 16:14:34 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Remembering Levon today and listening to the Brown Album.

When Lee Gabites interviewed John Simon in 1999 (link) Mr. Simon mentioned that, before he began working with The Band, they'd recorded some material with former Motown producer William "Mickey" Stevenson. Mr. Simon categorized that early attempt as "just a first time to get something happening that didn't work." Mr. Stevenson co-wrote Martha & the Vandellas' "Dancing In The Street" with Marvin Gaye and Ivy Jo Hunter. He also co-wrote & produced Mr. Gaye's "Stubborn Kind of Fellow", "Pride and Joy" and "Hitchhike", along with Gaye's duet with Kim Weston "It Takes Two." Ivy Jo Hunter co-wrote "Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever" with Stevie Wonder.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 16:00:22 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Levon Tribute Hugh's Room April 26th.

I got an email; from Jerome Avis last night. 184 tickets have already been sold for the tribute next Friday night. The club holds 220.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 15:55:26 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Old Friends Sadly Missed Today


Entered at Fri Apr 19 15:37:56 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: 1 Year ago Today

It's hard to believe that a year ago today, Levon Helm passed away. We can be all thankful that his music; along with that of Richard's and Rick's will live on.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 14:48:58 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I don't think it's so much a case of not wanting to spill the beans as of not caring to make the effort required to gather and correlate the sources and clues. These would include the original tape boxes, Garth and Robbie's memories (as jogged by researchers who know enough to ask leading questions), and any documentation and ephemera in the possession of those involved (or their heirs and estates) that might shed light on who may was out of town when so could not have been on this track or that. And then there's Dylan of course, and John Simon and a few others who were close to the action at various times.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 10:59:39 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Basement Tapes

Jim, take a look at the LIBRARY for additional articles on The Basement Tapes. The archaeology is always an interesting discussion as there's no "right" answer to a lot of it. Yet.

Dylan's next bootleg sessions set is Self Portrait outtakes, according to a note I saw on Record Store day. The B-side to the Record Store Day copy of "Wigwam" is an outtake from Self-Portrait. This leaves us all wondering, 'So why the f*ck doesn't he do a decent Bootleg Series set on the Basement Tapes? I'd guess it's because they so deliberately muddied the waters with that 1975 Columbia / CBS double LP set, that a properly annotated set would mean admitting to too much previous smoke and mirrors.

The most accurate dating is likely to be the liner notes to The Band: A Musical History box set, but I just looked. For most tracks it says a date, but Ferdinand The Imposter is just "Fall 1967." Ruben Remus is "September to November 1967 Big Pink" while Ain't No More Cane is "late 1967 - early 1968 Big Pink." So then look at Katie's Been Gone. No date given at all. Just "Released 1975."

I don't think they want to spill the beans on this stuff!


Entered at Fri Apr 19 07:44:42 CEST 2013 from (72.81.246.222)

Posted by:

Pete

Subject: A Year later

Hard to believe it's been a year already Levon, you are truly missed my friend. We know you are in a better place, rest easy. "I've got to journey on to where I'll find the thing I've lost, I've got a wide, wide river to cross".....


Entered at Fri Apr 19 06:59:01 CEST 2013 from (74.243.3.167)

Posted by:

Jim

Subject: Where are The Band's "Basement Tapes" songs from?

Hey everybody, I've never posted on here. Anyways, I was recently reading the book about THE BASEMENT TAPES by Sid Griffin, and it kinda seems like he was off on where exactly the songs came from.

From what I've tried to piece together, it seems that "Orange Juice Blues" is originally from a 1967 piano demo by Richard which was then overdubbed in 1975. However, where was the piano demo recorded?

Griffin claims that "Yazoo Street Scandal" is from Woodstock '67 but to me it sounds awfully a lot like the other two versions that we have, which I'm pretty sure are from 1968 sessions with John Simon.

For "Katie's Been Gone", Griffin says Woodstock '67 with drums added in '75, but Barney Hoskins says it's from the September '67 NYC sessions.

"Bessie Smith" I guess is either somewhere between THE BAND and STAGE FRIGHT or 1975 depending on who you ask.

"Ain't No More Cane" and "Don't Ya Tell Henry" were apparently either done at "unknown studio" around late '67/early '68 or Shangri-La in '75?

"Ruben Remus" is especially interesting. I'm pretty sure a few sources say that it's from Woodstock '67, but then there's others who say it's from the studio sessions in fall '67. And then Fraboni who says its from the early '68 sessions with John Simon.

And then lastly, there's "Long Distance Operator", which I'm pretty sure we can safely say comes from 1968 sessions with John Simon, right?

Sorry if this is boring old crap for you guys, but I figured if anybody knew the truth, it'd be you guys/gals.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 02:44:27 CEST 2013 from (65.94.113.18)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: The island gets better as you go north

Yes, Mr. Chair. Norm, the island gets more beautiful the further north you go. I've been up. Not into the coves and inlets. I can't do that with the transportation I have. But I have taken the 4 wheel vehicle up and if anyone wants to see beauty, that is it. It can vie with any place I have been on this earth. And yes, as cities go, the Queen's namesake has a pretty good corner on urban pretty.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 02:06:27 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bill's shy school boy manner

It wasn't a blowup doll gawd damn it.......it was an autopilot! I loved the scene where some one got their face slapped to help them straighten up. Then there was a whole lineup to slap her face...with crescent wrenches and all!

I remember the nights......especially the nights...when I used to sit on your face and wiggle....howze that Bill!....yuh little sissy:):):)


Entered at Fri Apr 19 01:08:14 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

I thought the blow-up doll scene was lewd dlew.


Entered at Fri Apr 19 00:40:19 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Peter graves...

For me, he will be for ever Captain Roger Oveur in ’Airplane'.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 23:34:25 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: April 19

Memories of Levon,one year later. RIP sweet Levon.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 22:50:44 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

David P: The "Easy Rider" soundtrack also included a song by the Holy Modal Rounders, whose manager, Jeff Cutler, had been in Jon and Lee and the Checkmates with organist Michael Fonfara, whose playing on the "2B3" CD was accompanied by Ritchie Hayward.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 22:39:08 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Martin Kibbee (aka Fred Martin) later co-wrote many Little Feat songs, including Easy To Slip, Dixie Chicken, Rock & Roll Doctor, Teenage Nervous Breakdown and Feats Don't Fail Me Now.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 22:02:22 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Bedbugs Connection

Yes, The Bedbugs were Lowell George, Richie Hayward, Martin Kibbee and Warren Klein, then known as The Factory. Hayward, Kibbee & Klein later joined Elliot Ingber (Mothers of Invention) and Larry Wagner in the Fraternity of Man. Their song "Don't Bogart Me" was featured in "Easy Rider", along with "The Weight" of course.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 21:50:15 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Arlo West

This is for David Powell, but of course for anyone who was a fan of Stevie Ray Vaughn.

Arlo West is one of these premium guitar pickers, I remember turning you on to him maybe couple years back David. Here he does a tribute to Stevie......gawd damn hot!


Entered at Thu Apr 18 21:34:49 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Favourite memories

Now look at this picture and tell me if it's not one of the best western pictures ever. The way these old boys do this song is good!........well I like it anyway, they'll always be my favourites.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 21:22:21 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: De Camptown Races

Now you've done it Pat......I got to rolling on the floor holding my gut.

You can't mention De Camptown Races without bringin' me back to Blazing Saddles.....the cowboys are dancing 'round singing......Slim Pickens rides up shoots his gun in the air and hollers, "What in the wide world of sports is agoin on? I hired you guys to get a little track laid....not jump around like a bunch a Kansas City faggots.".........my all time favourite line.

Right behind me on my bar is Fog Horn Leg Horn laying back on his elbow, while the little chicken hawk is pullin' on his tale....the greatest singer of De Camptown Ladies. Many a fool has come in here and exclaimed, "Why is that chicken laying on the bar??......simple.....it's his bar!:):):)


Entered at Thu Apr 18 20:51:15 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

A short jump from Gunsmoke to F Troop...and Lowell George's network debut. That's probably Ritchie Heyward on drums.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 20:42:16 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: This post will self-destruct in 5 seconds...

Showing off my white hair :-), I do recall that James Arness' brother, Peter Graves (ne Peter Aurness) was also an actor. He's probably best known for his role as IMF leader Jim Phelps on the popular tv series "Mission: Impossible."


Entered at Thu Apr 18 20:21:55 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Gunsmoke radio

The radio cast interested me, so here you are.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 20:17:51 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Gunsmoke

Showing off my gray hair now........how many of you know that Gunsmoke was a radio series before it became a TV series? We listened to it on radio for a long time.

The night it first aired on tv, we were at an aunt and uncles house, (my Dad's sister). That first night, John Wayne introduced the show, and James Arness, who John Wayne said was a long time friend of his. James Arness, was a very big man, 6'6". He made Dennis Weaver look a little small, however Dennis Weaver was himself, 6'3" I believe.

When Gunsmoke first aired, we still didn't even own a tv yet.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 19:59:15 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Crazy Festus Meets Slim Pickens

About midway through the 20 seasons of the television series Gunsmoke, Chester, played by Dennis Weaver, left the show. He was replaced by actor Ken Curtis in the role of Festus, an eccentric hillbilly character. Mr. Curtis was also an accomplished singer, who at one time was a member of the Sons of the Pioneers. His real voice was nothing like that of that of Festus (see link).


Entered at Thu Apr 18 18:45:47 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Marshall Dillon!

I agree about Chester and Dylan. From the article I did on The Weight:

Chester is the town character straight out of the TV series Gunsmoke which was set in Dodge City in the 1880s.4 Gunsmoke ran from 1955 to 1975 and was the archtypal TV western. Chester Goode was the name of the deputy marshall in the series who spent his time limping rapidly along the dusty main street dragging his ramrod-stiff gammy leg. In the TV series, Chester had a catch-phrase. As he limped after the town marshall, Matt Dillon, he used to shout out ‘Marshall Dillon!’, ‘Marshall Dillon!’ (Marshall Dylan! Marshall Dylan? Carmen might be the programme’s Miss Kitty, who owned the Longbranch Saloon - a tart with a heart.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 18:45:04 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Down at the Cross Roads

Managed to get home for a few days.....Robbie's Face Book page is telling us a DVD of the concert is coming. Really looking forward to that. Funny how through the years people have not seen Robbie as a singer. I've always liked his singing, and style on many of his own projects.

Jerry, I'm sure you have seen much more of Canada that I. In truth I haven't seen much of it. However there probably are not many who have seen as much of the BC coast as I. Up almost every inlet from The strait of Juan de Fuca to Portland Inlet, Haida Gwaii and the west coast of the island. Your town at the bottom end there is without a doubt one of the prettiest cities you can find.

There is so much to see that is very satisfying to me, I just haven't gotten around to going anywhere else much. For me, walking out on the deck of the Rockin Chair on a sunny morning, in an inlet where there is not a soul for miles, sitting down at the little table on the top deck by the bar, having my coffee and just watching and listening to the wild life is my contentment.

On returning home and finding the horror of what innocent people must endure at a time that is supposed to be exiting and happy makes an old man wonder why mankind must treat each other in these ways. I pick up my little grandson and look into his smiling eyes full of anticipation and wonder. I wish for a safe and happy life for him, as any man would. We just hope that they can find a good life, and not be destroyed by the twisted, bitter acts of violence that some little children must endure.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 17:58:33 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Thanks for the link to the Band at Beggars Banquet. There were at least a couple of mini-festivals by that name around that time; I have a poster for one of them, but certainly not this one. The sound of the phone ringing near the start of "The Weight" suggests that the taper was indoors, though obviously the audience was close by.

Bonk: Denny N told me a couple years ago that he saw the Band and Seatrain in a park in a valley in York - so I guess this was it. Maybe all of Zarathustra was there with their entourage? I'm thinking that the Borough of York Stadium is what is now Alan Tonks Park near Jane and Eglinton. Do you know, or have you been away too long?

Re "The Weight", I haven't touched Sid Griffin's Basement Tapes book for a week or so, but the last time I did there was reference to Dylan's young daughter Anna Lea, born in '67. That got me wondering if the line in "The Weight", "Won't you stay and keep Anna Lee company" alluded to some instance of the Dylans needing a babysitter and calling on Robbie and Dominique. For some time I've suspected that Dylan was Crazy Chester, which is why Rick, who in real life had adopted Dylan's troublesome dog, was given the job of singing the Chester/dog verse. So of Dylan's Chester in verse 4, and Luke in verse 3, then maybe he's Carmen in verse 2 (picture Grossman as the devil) and the unwelcoming guy in verse 1. So, to translate:

"That Bob":
Wouldn't put us up when we got to Woodstock
Hooked us up with his manager
Called us over to babysit
Saddled us with his mutt
I can't wait to get out of here


Entered at Thu Apr 18 16:09:12 CEST 2013 from (122.155.6.172)

Posted by:

Widi

Web: My link

Wow this site is great


Entered at Thu Apr 18 15:29:18 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

Subject: Live 'Kingfish' from new Levon documentary

New on Rolling Stone's site -- a clip from the new Levon documentary of him doing an impromptu performance of Kingfish. Love it! I always did picture Levon singing that 'Frenchmen' verse with a big grin on his face.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 15:24:18 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

John D, great story!


Entered at Thu Apr 18 14:23:18 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bonk / Grossman

This will probably sound a little anti-climatic for you; but the meeting has always stuck in my mind. So....we're on the Varsity grounds and Ronnie Hawkins is introducing me to Levon; for the first time. I've told the story before; but his first words to me were, "I'll run you a mile for that jacket your wearing." Then he laughed. I was 22 and not making much money and had bought a suede jacket; from Le Château. Pretty nifty and expensive for me at the times. I looked around and there stood Albert Grossman. Now for me Albert Grossman meant one thing. He was Bob Dylan's manager. I'd read about him and seen a lot of pictures of him. I swallowed and walked up to him and said, "Mr. Grossman it is really an honor to meet you." He replied; without taking a breath, "Yes...I'm sure it is." Wasn't sure how to take that.

Now the funny part. For those who really don't know Ronnie Hawkins, he has an incredible sense of humour and really isn't impressed by anyone. That's why Dylan liked him so much. He was very comfortable around Ronnie. When first meeting Dylan, Ronnie said, "I like your guitar playing; but you could use some help on your words." Now, Ronnie hears Albert's line and I give to give a little background here. If you know what Mr. Grossman looked like, he had a hairstyle for the time that reminded you of the early days of independence in the U.S. Looked a lot like the wigs they would wear in the days of Jefferson and he had a small pigtail at the back. He was ahead of his time. Guys weren't doing that yet. OK so Ronnie hears his line and says, "Now Albert, you be nice; or I'll have to pull that little piggly wiggly of yours." I guess you had to be there; but no one spoke to Grossman that way; but Ronnie didn't care. The Hawk made everyone comfortable; with his sense of humor. Even Albert had a big smile on his face.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 12:27:51 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Pat B: marvellous...

Just fantastic. Thanks!


Entered at Thu Apr 18 05:48:17 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

It's not often I run into a "new" photo of the boys. Taken from the shoot for MFBP, accompanying a boot I've never heard.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 04:11:43 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.90)

Posted by:

Bill M

John D: thanks for the correction - that the guys' first "homecoming" was in '69. I can only wish that I'd been cool enough back then to attend. I used to wish that I'd been older then, but I no longer wish that particular wish.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 02:37:09 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Location: SaltSpring Island/Cabbagetown

Subject: John D

Come on John! You have to elaborate and spill the beans on meeting Albert. That was 43 years ago so I don't think you can get sued. I was a 17 year old punk kid with a mickey of Canadian Club in my back pocket at that show along with my friends. It's funny what time passed does to your brain but I always get that concert mixed up with seeing Lennon and Joplin. Which I believe were two different shows all together. To me, the shows have just melded into one?


Entered at Thu Apr 18 01:44:53 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Band at Massey Hall 1970

Bill M, I would say that the concert at Massey Hall in 1970; was perhaps one of the best performances I have ever seen by The Band at any time. As you remember Jesse Winchester opened. I do however Bill, think you have forgotten their appearance at Varsity Stadium in 1969. That is where I was introduced to Levon; by Ronnie and met Albert Grossman; which was....interesting to say the least.


Entered at Thu Apr 18 01:32:57 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: LEVON...

This is another wonderful link to LEVON.

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AND thanx to you all for your great links. Never tire of them..

KEVIN J: Thanx for the mention. We Canadians loved this nice gal.

DAVID P & SADAVID: Thanx to you for more great links..I'm surely looking forward to the movie.

CYA soon Take care xoxoxoxo


Entered at Thu Apr 18 00:23:40 CEST 2013 from (62.255.114.101)

Posted by:

ian w

Location: UK

Subject: (1) Jay Cocks and (2) The atrocity in Boston

(1) JAY COCKS

Jay Cocks attended Kenyon College, Gambier, Ohio and, though he mainly ran the film society, he was also instrumental in bringing Dylan to play there in November 1964. Indeed, he escorted Dylan during that visit. Later, he wrote up the story in The Collegian, the student newspaper. Much later still, this was anthologised in the Jonathon Cott book, "Bob Dylan - The Essential Interviews".

Cocks described this article as "a good calling card" that got him his "gig at TIME", where he started in 1967. The following year, someone suggested he seek out a young film-maker who turned out to be Martin Scorsese and a long-lasting friendship was formed.

A couple of years later, he met members of The Bnad and wrote up the TIME article to which you refer. /n Later still, he introduced Robbie Robertson to Scorsese. /n So, even at this early stage, Dylan was exerting influence (admmittedly indirect influence) on The Band's career.

(2) THE ATROCITY IN BOSTON

Please allow me to express my great sadness at the atrocity perpetrated at the end of Boston Marathon and to extend sympathy to those affected and to their families. I cannot imagine what goes through the minds of those who carry out such abhorrent acts.

At the same time, I think of the more than two decades of such bombings that we suffered in Great Britain and Northern Ireland at the hands of the IRA, who received funding from Irish Americans, including some in Boston.

I do not suggest, in any way, that Bostonians deserved this. Nobody deserves to suffer such a wanton and barbaric act. I simply suggest that this is a moment for quiet contemplation and reflection - a time to think not just of those suffering in Boston but of all those round the world who have suffered at the hands of evil people everywhere.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 22:41:13 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Thanks for the link. I was looking for the author in the magazine, but didn't find it. The magazine has the stuff that's at the end of the link ("The Band talks music" or whatever) set off in a sidebar that gives it more prominence. Justifiably, as that's great stuff. For what it's worth, the guys played Massey Hall in Toronto on January 17, 1970 - their first performance here since '65, I suppose. Howlin' Wolf was booked for two weeks at the Colonial starting January 19 (as was Robbie Lane, though at Friar's Tavern), and Chuck Berry was booked to play Con Hall on the 25th.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 22:00:33 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

The world before PC’s and the web when being on the cover of Time Magazine was as big as big got. Interesting the references to Canadian edition……..I know that “split-runs” were outlawed some years back and the result was country specific versions of Time that diluted things further by putting national rather than international faces on the cover……nothing wrong with that of course but it took the honour of being “on the cover of Time” down a peg – or at least confused things....Not the case with The Band cover.....a different discussion altogether...

Cyndi Lauper…..still hard for me to take her seriously…..as first time I saw her she was climbing a stage with a bunch of wrestlers.

Thank you Bill and David for the Time Magazine discussion…….I had not read that article before……A good one.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 21:34:41 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: From Huck Finn on the Mississippi to Jack Dawson on the Titanic

BTW -- Jay Cocks, who wrote that TIME article, later became better known as a film critic and screenwriter. He's worked with Martin Scorsese on "The Age of Innocence" and "Gangs of New York", and with James Cameron on "Strange Days" and "Titanic".


Entered at Wed Apr 17 21:30:37 CEST 2013 from (174.116.172.227)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: The Band on Time (Canadian)

Bill M: Somewhere in a box among my stored possessions is a copy of the 1970 Time Magazine (Canadian) issue with The Band (red I believe with stylized drawing) on the cover. I remember it well and saw it when I was packing and last moved almost 2 years ago in Toronto.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 21:26:34 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: Time has come today

File this under lines that haven't aged well: "Soon these five musical Huck Finns joined forces."


Entered at Wed Apr 17 21:05:51 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Time has come today

Bill M: Here's the link to the TIME article.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 20:56:50 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

And on the same day, a different friend, the NH-based one who first sent me to this site, very kindly dropped of a copy of a 1970 issue of "Time" magazine (Canuckistani edition), which has our guys as the cover story. I looked, but didn't spot it in Jan H's Library section. Has some interesting observations from all five.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 20:20:06 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

The Right Rev Wm. Sol Hargis, DDS

Location: The Discount House of Worship

Subject: Testimony

Porter, my brother:

I wish to give testimony on your behalf and lend you some credibility. When you called out of the Wilderness to "people with problems," naturally I thought of myself first. I just wanted to say that I was forlorn and desperate after I went bankrupt last year, but now the worm has turned and just to prove how successful my church has become, if you look at your corporate statement you'll see that your witch doctors are a division of Hargis, Inc., Very Ltd.

Stay strong.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 20:03:45 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

sadavid: Thanks for the link, and in particular the tip to watch Cindy Lauper's spectacular showing. Nice to see Charlie Musselwhite up there with her, even if he didn't move around nearly so much.

Coincidentally, a friend just gave me a worthy new blues CD with Charlie on it - "The Walter Davis Project: Tribute to a Giant of 20th Century Blues Music". I'd never heard the name before, but I obviously should have, because people like Musselwhite, Billy Boy Arnold (who wrote "I Wish You Would", a song that Robbie backed John Hammond Jr on in '66), Henry Townsend and Jimmy McCracklin all sing Walter Davis songs.

John D: The same friend, Andrew G, gave me the new Diana Braithwaite and Chris Whiteley CD at the same time, and I see your name listed in the thank-yous. I was also pleased to see Curley Bridges' name on the same list. Diana's voice is growing on me really fast.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 19:24:50 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Well done Serenity……..Rita was a very special person and singer...…..and a damn fine songwriter. Very sorry to learn of her loss this morning.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 18:49:43 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Rita

There's more from this link..A tribute to a dear lady who will be missed..xoxoxo


Entered at Wed Apr 17 18:41:19 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Rita McNeil dead at 68..

A follow up to JOE J's post...She was a great gal!!

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This is from her website:

1944-2013

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Sydney, NS (April 17, 2013) It is with great sadness that we announce the passing of Cape Breton’s first lady of song, Rita MacNeil. Rita died last evening (April 16th) from complications following surgery, at the age of 68.

A gentle soul with a heart of gold and the voice of an angel, Rita’s music spoke of her love of home and family, the courage to rise above life’s challenges and the hardworking men and women that tie this country together. “Working Man”, “Flying on Your Own”, Reason to Believe”, “I’ll Accept The Rose Tonight” and “Home I’ll Be”, are just a few of the songs that endeared Rita to fans in Canada, the U.K and Australia.

Born in Big Pond, Cape Breton on May 28th, 1944 to Neil and Catherine (Rene) MacNeil, Rita was one of eight children. It wasn’t an easy life, as depicted in her autobiography “On A Personal Note”(released in 1998), but with determination and a passion for writing songs and singing, Rita pushed beyond a profound shyness and found her way to a stage at Expo 86 in Vancouver. It was here that the world discovered Rita MacNeil.

In 1987 she won her first Juno Award for Most Promising Female Vocalist. She was 42. “Flying on Your Own” followed in 1987 and in 1989, her Juno performance with Cape Breton’s Men of the Deeps of “Working Man”, brought the house down.

Over the course of her career, Rita recorded more than 24 albums which sold in the millions. She won 3 Juno’s, as well as numerous East Coast Music Awards, Country Music Awards, and a Gemini for her CBC variety show 'Rita & Friends' that ran from 1994 to 1997. She was a Member of the Order of Canada, was awarded the Order of Nova Scotia and is the recipient of five honorary doctorates. In 1986 she opened up Rita’s Tea Room in her hometown of Big Pond, which in the past few years enjoyed frequent visits from Rita herself.

Rita’s quick wit and sly sense of humour was a hallmark of her live shows and was in evidence when she was featured in an episode of the Trailer Park Boys.

A mother to Laura (Dana) and Wade (Lori), a grandmother, a dear friend, and a sister, Rita was a Canadian icon – a woman who had a dream that became a reality - who brought joy and inspiration to so many.

And you never let the hard times

Take away your soul

And you stopped the tears from falling

As you watched the young ones go

You’re as peaceful as a clear day

You’re as rugged as the seas

I caress you, oh, Cape Breton, in my dreams

Home I’ll Be – Rita MacNeil

“Music is timeless and ageless,” noted the legendary singer, “the passion I feel for what I do can’t be put aside with a number and a year. It is a big part of my life – the concerts, the touring, the letters and the joy the audience gives back to me when the music touches a chord with them.” Rita MacNeil

RIP, dear lady. Christmas won't be the same without your wonderful show. If we're lucky CBC will play them..

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Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


Entered at Wed Apr 17 17:28:56 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Ain't In It For My Health

Link to film trailers for "Ain't In It For My Health."


Entered at Wed Apr 17 17:19:53 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Sorry. That should have been Steve Cropper and Randy Jackson.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 16:45:18 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Memphis Soul in performance at the White House

John D: I caught the show by chance & thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing (well, Timberlake went on a little too long).

The entire hour is streaming on the PBS website (see [My link]) -- but the 'must-see' performance is Cindy Lauper @ 48:35 . . . .


Entered at Wed Apr 17 15:52:04 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Booker T. Jones

In a 2011 interview in the Wall Street Journal Booker T. Jones described what inspired him to create a harder attack on the organ that was part of the riff-driven sound with the MGs:

"My sound came out of tryng to meld my style to Ray Charles on 'Genius + Soul = Jazz' [link above]. That's when I started to make my sound thinner, like you hear on 'Green Onions'. Ray did things to the stops that made it sound like a synthesizer does now, like special effects."


Entered at Wed Apr 17 14:21:24 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Stax

BTW this was pre-taped from April 9. Therefore this happened; before Boston Marathon.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 14:16:22 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Stax comes to The White House

It was a tribute to Memphis last night at the White House; as Memphis musicians and singers did a tribute to Stax records. Booker T on organ. Steve Cropper only used on a few numbers. Booker had his own guitar player. Eddy Floyd Knocking In Wood. William Bell. Then it got a little strange.

I didn't know Justin Timberlake was from Memphis. He sang Dock of The Bay. Didn't work for me at all. Also Cindy Lauper did a great version of Try A Little Tenderness. Alabama Shakes performed with Steve Cropper. Ben Harper, Charlie Musselwhite and Mavis Staples as well. Josh Ledet an American Idol runner up performed with Sam Moore doing Soul Man. And did When A Man Loves A Woman solo. He was great.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 13:16:54 CEST 2013 from (62.56.166.115)

Posted by:

porter lee

Location: USA

Subject: How African magic cured my deadly ailment HIV/AIDS

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Entered at Wed Apr 17 13:04:41 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: R.I.P.

Rita McNeill, the First Lady of Cape Breton, died at age 68. Rita paid her dues for years before tasting success and provided inspiration and a helping hand to a couple generations of Down East performers. I'm not sure if Rita's Tea Room is still open but it was a must see if you were in Cape Breton a few years back.

Three days until Leonard's concert in St. John's. We're making a big production out of it. Dress up dinner with friends at 'Bacalhao' before the show and a party to follow. Then it's up at daylight and a five hour drive to get back home and to work. It's hard to justify taking three days out of your schedule for a concert but "What odds eh?". It is Leonard after all.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 11:53:33 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Steve Cropper did Green Onions with The Animals & Friends when I saw them in 2011 (review linked). He was highly complimentary of Micky Gallagher's organ playing, which was brilliant all evening. ‘He plays it like it ought to be played’ he announced. And it sounded amazing, but to be fair, Green Onions is the ultimate example of the virtues of simplicity.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 04:37:08 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

Bonk

Location: SAlt Spring Island.

Subject: Jerry

Jerry. Haven't heard Green Onions in years. Love it! It's good to see Randy Jackson playing bass beside Duck Dunn. I had forgotten just how good a bassman Randy was before he got into the Idol shit.


Entered at Wed Apr 17 00:35:31 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Boston

Thoughts go out to all those affected by what took place yesterday in Boston. Words fail us.


Entered at Tue Apr 16 19:03:45 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Boston

I'm so glad everyone's families are safe.

Patriots Day and And the Boston Marathon are a very special time in Boston. It is day that is normally celebrated with a lot of joy. Everyone is off work and having fun. Now there will never be a Marathon that is not tinged with sadness. Thinking about 9-11 always makes me tear up a little still.

My prayers go out to all the victims. The world we live in is not a very happy place now.


Entered at Tue Apr 16 17:27:21 CEST 2013 from (174.116.172.227)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: The majority or at least many

I think he is correct. Concerned helpful individuals in these circumstances form an important part of the whole and many came to the aid of these people in this tragic event. I read particularly about Canadians (including a physician) who were there and participated where they could in helping the injured and reassuring people. It may not be the majority...fear motivates many to run away from acute danger (not a bad idea usually) but there are many who risk for the benefit of others.


Entered at Tue Apr 16 17:19:54 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Boston...

The comic, Will Patton, actually wrote what I thought was an excellent piece in which he concluded that as horrible as the bombings were, the video show more people running to help, and that good people are always in the majority. He may not be right, but it's some comfort in the midst of an awful and tragic circumstance.


Entered at Tue Apr 16 13:15:58 CEST 2013 from (65.92.2.22)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: "The horror, the horror"

Peter: It is beyond comprehension that innocent humans must endure these attacks. People very close to me have run marathons (not this one) and is a time of hope and shows the best of what man/woman can be. This brutality ranks with the worst that man/woman can be. My thoughts too have been about this terrible event... with all those... the dead, the maimed and injured and those who were witness to the horror. Family is everything. Thank goodness yours is safe.


Entered at Tue Apr 16 12:52:07 CEST 2013 from (75.34.56.43)

Posted by:

Adam

Robbie's "Crossroads" performance was fantastic. On "He Don't Live Here No More", he really put fire in that solo for this event. "I Shall Be Released" was beautiful, just beautiful. Please let the DVD release include all three Robbie songs!


Entered at Tue Apr 16 12:10:23 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My thoughts are on Boston this morning, as last night. My daughter-in-law had gone with a friend to watch another friend competing, and fortunately she had finished and they were walking away when it happened and all are safe. But you lie awake in the small hours thinking "what if …" and how precious your family is, and about the people killed and injured and the effect on them and their families. We know nothing about who or why, but unusually I listened through BBC's Thought for The Day on Radio 4, and the speaker described it simply as "an act of calculated evil."

We got home about ten and hadn't heard the news, and my younger son who had heard, didn't tell us till he'd checked through and ascertained she was OK (thank goodness for Facebook and a simple "we're safe.") We thought he seemed nervous, and odd that he thought we should make a cup of tea before switching on the TV.! So we were spared the terror of not knowing which tens of thousands of people experienced.


Entered at Tue Apr 16 07:04:01 CEST 2013 from (65.92.2.22)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Madeline Peyroux

We have seen and heard Madeline Peyroux live. She is one of the truly great singers, in the vein of Billy Holiday. Her voice is smooth as silk and her interpretations are wonderful. If you have a chance, do not miss her. And yes, her Dylan, Cohen and recently Ray Charles are all highly interpretive and always interesting.


Entered at Tue Apr 16 05:51:28 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Boston,etc..

Hi all! great posts and links to "Crossroads".etc.

JOHN D: Lots of smileys at smileycentral.com..

DEXY: Thanx for the "Crossroads" link. Lots of goodies there.

Eric's hair is "salt and pepper"..

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God Bless all those who have suffered in the marathon...Our hearts go out to you all for your suffering...This is for you all to read..♥♥♥

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Never stop caring about the little things in life,

never stop dreaming or give in to strife.

Never stop building bridges ... that lead to promising tomorrows,

never stop trying or give in to sorrows.

Never stop smiling and looking forward to each new day,

But most of all... never stop shining in your own special way.

Never forget that all storms can clear, the grayest sky can turn pure blue.

Remember, brighter tomorrows are near...

xoxoxoxoxo

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


Entered at Mon Apr 15 22:29:33 CEST 2013 from (24.236.121.84)

Posted by:

Deb

Angelina, I'm so glad that you were there to hear that moving performance of "I Shall be Released."

Hello everyone and thanks, Jerry for posting that link.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 20:50:01 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: You Don't Know Me

Ms. Peyroux covering "You Don't Know Me."


Entered at Mon Apr 15 20:27:00 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Madeline Peyroux did one of the great Dylan covers of all time on her first album, You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 20:19:14 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

The other keyboardist with Clapton, sporting the fedora, was Paul Carrack.

John D mentioned the challenge of covering songs that Ray Charles made his own. Lately I've been listening to Madeline Peyroux's new album, "The Blue Room", which follows in the tradition of Modern Sounds in Country & Western Music. She covers Take These Chains from My Heart, Born To Lose, I Can't Stop Loving You and You Don't Know Me. She also interprets, in her own jazz style, Bye Bye Love, Buddy Holly's Changing All Those Changes, Randy Newman's Guilty, Leonard Cohen's Bird On A Wire, John Hartford's Gentle On My Mind and Warren Zevon's Desperados Under the Eaves.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 19:38:56 CEST 2013 from (76.124.39.182)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Subject: keyboard player

The keyboard player on the right is Chris Stainton, from Clapton's '70's-'80's touring band. Previously with Joe Cocker.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 18:40:35 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: backstage photo

. . . link courtesy robbie-robertson dot com . . . .


Entered at Mon Apr 15 18:39:07 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: soundcheck photos

. . . link courtesy robbie-robertson dot com . . . .


Entered at Mon Apr 15 18:37:28 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Crossroads review

. . . link courtesy robbie-robertson dot com . . . .


Entered at Mon Apr 15 18:21:37 CEST 2013 from (97.116.114.213)

Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

Subject: Crossroads 2013

Booker T, Steve Cropper, Keb Mo and others doing a Green Onions jam..Very cool..


Entered at Mon Apr 15 17:21:12 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Clapton & The Wallflowers

Doing The Weight.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 16:47:34 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Old Sock

I've been playing it a lot, and Angel and Further on Down The Road are too of my favourite tracks of the last few weeks. It's an excellent album.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 16:08:06 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Old Sock

For what it's worth I am listening to a couple of tracks from Clapton's Old Sock Album; on youtube. I just have to say that recording any Ray Charles song is at best a bit of a risk; due to comparisons.

Mr. Clapton has nothing to worry about. This might be the best cover of what has become a Ray Charles hit I have ever heard; along with Ray and Richard's versions of Hoagy Carmichael and Stuart Gorrell's Georgia.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 15:15:29 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Eric (another hair question)

After already making one Clapton hair comment I just have to add another. I'm now on my big screen and not the iPad and is it the lighting; or has EC let his hair go grey (gray)? Is he following in the Keith Richards tradition? I can't really tell on this video. I think he looks great. OK, enough about hair. Back to the music. Looking forward to the DVD.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 14:48:46 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

I'm going to stop posting from my iPad; after this. I'm looking at my word errors in my last post. Upstairs to the PC from now on.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 14:45:30 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Jerry: Sorry, it was your link, not Peter V's.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 14:32:57 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Domenic Troiano

Back in the early 70's Domenic came back from L.A.; after doing his solo L.P. I listened to it and said, "man who is that bass payer?" ". Oh that's a guy named Willie Weeks." I ever forgot his name. Also who is the keyboard player in Clapton's band with the hat on?


Entered at Mon Apr 15 14:28:59 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for the link to ISBR. Lovely solo, as you say. Light on the 'cardboard' and harmonics, though either or both would have been fine. While Robbie has sometimes patterned his singing after Richard's, this time he stuck to Dylan - a wise choice. Who was the John Cleese / James Taylor cross farther to the (our) right?

Sebastian: When your father's lips move during a solo, as following 3:04, do you know what he tends to be saying? It doesn't seem to by the lyrics. Maybe, "Jeez, that guy with the little camera swivelled away to John Cleese and missed the start of my solo."


Entered at Mon Apr 15 14:24:50 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Found it. I wouldn't have recognized Clapton. At least now he doesn't look like Barry of the Bee Gees. I liked his short cropped look during the "blues" years.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 14:13:00 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John, look at Jerry's link below … if goes to a YouTube handheld camera, but it sounded good.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 13:43:46 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter

Peter where are you hearing ISBR from Crossroads?


Entered at Mon Apr 15 11:48:24 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: I Shall Be released

I didn't expect to be sitting here at 10.30 in the morning with tears in my eyes, but somehow they just appeared while listening to "I Shall Be Released." Truly wonderful. In a guitar legends line up, the subtlety of the intro and the solo must have stood out. All round it was great … lovely keyboard work too. I just wish Robbie would do that more often.

Al, is it just me, or is Eric beginning to look like Corporal Jones? (Clive Dunn).


Entered at Mon Apr 15 10:35:09 CEST 2013 from (75.34.56.43)

Posted by:

Adam

Robbie's performance at Crossroads sounds great. His guitar break in "I Shall Be Released" is stunning! It reminded me of that signature, "Forever Young" Last Waltz ring. And Robbie's introduction, dedicating the song to Levon, Rick and Richard in an understated way, was beautiful.

I really enjoy when Robbie plays with Clapton, because he really stands out in his approach and technique. With Clapton, Derek Trucks, and other virtuoso guys present, Robbie stood strong and really showed why he was a special guest there. Nobody can play like Robbie... great performance.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 08:59:42 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Sebastian. So all three choices were framed to purpose of Crossroads.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 08:45:32 CEST 2013 from (97.116.114.213)

Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

I shall Be Released, very close and decent quality..Amazing...


Entered at Mon Apr 15 08:03:32 CEST 2013 from (208.120.36.230)

Posted by:

Jon L

Location: NYC

Thanks Sebastian -- that was going to be my next question! Hope we'll still hear it sometime.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 06:02:15 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: PS... contacing me...

Those of you who email from time to time will find me on davidlachlanlewis at hotmail dot com



Entered at Mon Apr 15 05:29:21 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Crossroads

The third song was going to be the Shape I'm In but instead Rob sat in on the finale of "High Time..." Very cool but slightly disappointed that we didn't get one more. Initially he wanted to do Broken Arrow but Eric was unsure that they could do it justice on such short notice. I Shall Be Released was pretty amazing if you ask me. Cheers.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 03:40:53 CEST 2013 from (24.114.22.80)

Posted by:

Kevin J

"a man who swears he's not to blame"...........Fitting and Beautiful.......I only wish he had started with "The Right Mistake" - great song with lovely guitar.......Thanks Dexy.


Entered at Mon Apr 15 03:10:26 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Thank you

In a word, superb!!


Entered at Mon Apr 15 02:30:49 CEST 2013 from (24.124.96.66)

Posted by:

Dexy

Web: My link

Subject: Crossroads video on YouTube

Someone grabbed the whole thing (it seems) from his or her seat. All of Robbie's set is included.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 22:34:14 CEST 2013 from (173.2.196.233)

Posted by:

Big Willy

Location: NY

Subject: Crossroads 2

A few more tidbits to help paint the picture. They used the big turntable stage so that as one band was playing the other was being set up. In addition there were two small stages set up at the extreme right and left of the main stage in front. During night one the inter band time was filled by a combo. Of Dan Ackroyd lively bio/ intros mixed with solo artist performances. By night two it was mostly small stage performances between main bands and theybgot more and more creative. Derek Trucks, Greg Allman, and Warren Haynes did a beautiful version of Needle and the Damage Done followed by a smoldering Midnight Rider. This was the closest we got to a full Allman Bros. band on night two. Derek and Warren also played something together to start but it is lost right now amongst 10 hours of kick ass music. Some other highlights were night one early on BB, Cray, Clapton, and Vaughan seated side by side trading great solo after great solo and appreciative smiles with each other to Every Day I have the Blues. Bb king got a wonderful reception and was incredibly energized for an 87 year old! Jimmy Vaughn, Vince Gill and Alber Lee are 3 of the greates relatively unknown guitarists ever. Gary Clark jr. And Doyle Bramhall, along with Derek Trucks are really the new generation of electric guitar masters. Steve Jordan was a MONSTER on drums for 2 nights. He is the next best thing to Levon. Levon would have been great on this stage. I don't believe he ever got to play a Crossroads.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 22:10:51 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

There's a very partial setlist up (see link) which is improving by the minute. I see Warren Hayes, Derek Trucks and Greg Allman did "THe Needle & The Damage Done" which shows others were also tuned to the theme of what Eric Clapton is raising money for.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 21:40:30 CEST 2013 from (208.120.36.230)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Subject: RR setlist

Well played, Peter!


Entered at Sun Apr 14 21:31:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Easily done, John. You think who you're replying to and type the name. I've done it too.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 21:22:47 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

I'm too tired. PETER V DID NOT MAKE THAT LAST POST....I DID. SEE WHAT I MEAN ABOUT BEING AN IDIOT


Entered at Sun Apr 14 21:21:54 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The post below was not from me. What's going on?


Entered at Sun Apr 14 21:21:00 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Lyrics

In the early days of "Soul Man" I swore they were saying I was educated from "Woodstock." Now that makes no sense at all. It was a long time I realized it was "Good Stock." See how brave I am admitting that. What an idiot I was.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 21:14:56 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Joan. Greater Than Symbol

I see where I was doing it wrong Joan. I was making the nose out of the "greater than" symbol. That's the one this site doesn't like.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 20:20:44 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: typos

I'm so groggy that I can't even spell my name right. Of course it is Joan Damned Allergy pills.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 20:16:34 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joon

Subject: A penny

I will pay up. Do you take credit cards? :=)

John D As above nothing explodes if you do smiley face


Entered at Sun Apr 14 20:08:28 CEST 2013 from (24.226.128.237)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Big Willy

Thank you. Appreciated the review/update very much.......sounded like a fine night. Hope BEG had a good view.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 19:17:08 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Amen Corner

I'd never heard Amen Corner's version of "The Weight" but was curious when I saw a "Return of The Magnificent Seven" LP yesterday. This was their classic in that they had the courage (or foolishness) to cover The Weight, Proud Mary, Get Back and Penny Lane on one album. Get Back was a single too.

Andy Fairweather-Lowe is a fine singer, but better later than he was then. The mangling of lyrics beats Joan Baez on Dixie, "If you'll take Jack McGraw" and I think "feed him when you can" has something about a "policeman". I'll have to listen again. Also they chose to repeat the first verse at the end, which sort of loses the plot. Still, very brave effort at Penny Lane, which claims to be live, but even the sleeve notes put it in quotes "live". The Beatles never managed a live version!


Entered at Sun Apr 14 17:58:18 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Common 'cents'

Peter: I 'as cent '(despite my Canadian ac cent) to be decent and give you a cent. That is quite 'cent sible' of me, don't you think? It will be 'cent' in the mail at some future time during my 'de-cent' into spelling oblivion.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 17:40:12 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V

Peter? I'd be more than happy to give you my 2 cents worth. HaHa. Gosh I wish I could make a smiley face on this site; without it thinking I'm out to destroy the planet.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 17:18:45 CEST 2013 from (99.255.116.43)

Posted by:

GregD

Bill M-thanks for the update on Garth's 45 collection. Obviously he and Terry Watkinson were at least aware of each other back in the day.

I remember the Hawk was praising Gordie Johnson of Big Sugar after they first came on to the scene. I think you're correct in that they relocated stateside some years ago and return occasionally.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 17:12:46 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: gloating and crowing

On Monday I wrote:

I'm still going for He Don't Live Here No More and I Shall Be Released, because a lyricist will think about the theme and intent (though it's true most don't).

I think every GB reader now owes me one cent.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 17:08:05 CEST 2013 from (72.78.39.44)

Posted by:

PSB

Subject: Crossroads

The other Robbie song was He Don't Live Here No More.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 15:40:16 CEST 2013 from (173.2.196.233)

Posted by:

Big Willy

Location: NY

Subject: Crossroads

Only played 2 songs. Opened with a tune from Clairvoyant (can't remember name). Clapton and band closed the show with a blistering set. When the lights came on Keith Richards was on stage, a thunderous ovation ensued and Keith led a great version of Key to the Highway. Robbie followed after a Chuck Berry song with Keith and his first song was a bit of an odd segue. Ii Shall Be released was dedicated to "some friends that are no longer with is" (or something close to that). Had tears in my eyes during this. Robbie sang lead accompanied by Clapton and and femal backup singers.Show ended with about 25 guitarists lined across the stage taking solos as directed by Clapton to High Time We Went. Robbie was next to Derek Trucks and smiling most of the time, adding a nice solo to the proceedings. One of the best all star show closings I've seen. The 2 nights ran flawlessly and Indon't think there was a repeated song over 10 hours of music. Countless highlights. Dissapointed in only 2 Robbie songs but it was a thrill for my wife and I to see him for the first time live. Carrack and Stainton on keys, no Garth whcih would have been a nice touch. It's not like there wasn't any keyboard presence on stage over the course of 2 nights.. Can't wait for the DVD ......it was trulu guitar heaven for 2 long nights at MSG.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 15:31:53 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Workin on the chain gang.........goin dow down down

Keep on keepin...........later.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 15:20:31 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Tiny Tim?

Did I miss something of importance? I hadn't heard from him from a while...


Entered at Sun Apr 14 12:20:04 CEST 2013 from (75.34.56.43)

Posted by:

Adam

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie live

One of the songs Robbie sang/played was "I Shall Be Released"! Nice choice.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 10:53:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Crossroads guesses

I checked Eric Clapton and Robbie's Facebook pages when I woke this morning. Tantalizingly there are photos but no setlist yet. Eagerly awaiting the list of three too.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 10:51:49 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Nice review of "Once" in the "Sunday Times Culture" today (my own inferior review from a couple of weeks ago is linked). The reviewer of this wonderful "Irish-Czech" musical did get in a good old joke that I knew but had forgotten.

You heard about the Irish-American boomerang?

It never comes back, but keeps singing songs about how much it wants to.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 06:46:54 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.10)

Posted by:

Kevin J

....Bill.....funny you mention Mashmakhan..... a good pal has asked me about guitar suggestions and I was thinking that a visit to Rayburn Blake at my favorite guitar shop in town - Long & Mcquade was in order....it's been a while...and I always love to talk to him.......BTW, I only knew Jerry Mercer from April Wine and last time I talked with Rayburn.....we shared a few stories and laughs about Myles Goodwyn and his undiminshed love of VOLUME!


Entered at Sun Apr 14 05:21:58 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.88)

Posted by:

Bill M

KJ: Crossed in the ether. The first drummer who really impressedd my live was jerry Mercer of Mashmakhan. He left them to join Roy Buchanan after Roy's first Polydor album.

JQ: Haven't followed Big Sugar much, but it's basically guitarist Gordie Johnson and a rhythm section, though for a surprisingly long time the bassist was a constant - Gary Lowe, who maybe still is there. I believe they relocated to Texas some years ago. Lots of albums.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 05:13:06 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.91)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: Thanks for the tip, though i didn't take it. We did consider it though, as we like Paul James. Maybe if the Dylan tribute didn't involve a bunch of other performers. Also didn't help that we were bummed out by a lifeless matinee performance down the street from Hugh's by a singer we used to like a lot.

Greg D / Kevin J: Further evidence that Terry Watkinson, of the Yeomen and later of Max Webster, knew our guys on Yonge Street is the fact that Garth had a copy of the first Dee and the Yeomen 45 from '64.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 05:02:02 CEST 2013 from (24.226.128.237)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Jon......I was thinking the same thing and if any of them were inspired by 2nd guitarist in Roy Buchanan's third band after the 4th keyboard player left......I am taking the first plane to Mongolia! So, it's the memoirs then is it Bill? Kidding.......

Norm: I'll try....


Entered at Sun Apr 14 03:53:53 CEST 2013 from (208.120.36.230)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Eagerly awaiting reports of Robbie's 3-song setlist tonight. (Any last guesses?)

Adam, :) and thanks right back for the kind words.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 01:41:08 CEST 2013 from (68.198.167.170)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Thanks Again

Norm, Jeff, thanks for the kind words. I worked 38 years for IBM in one of their manufacturing plants. I was one of the folks responsible for the first operation in the production line. Not hard work like the work you do Norm, but the kind of work that knocks the sensitivity out of you rather quikly. I treat people with respect and I like to be treated with respect.

As far as Bill M is concerned I'm happy with the following realization, growing up in the Hudson Valley I got to see The Band in all shapes and forms for 40+ years. My buddy Tim Drummond use to play bass for Neil Young. I've seen Neil Young a ridiculous amount of times. So while Bill M, the Canadian music expert spends his time going to tribute concerts and worrying about who the 2nd guitarist was in Roy Buchanan's third band after the 4th keyboard player left, I've already seen the greatest Canadian music of all time. That satisfaction is enough for me.


Entered at Sun Apr 14 00:52:33 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Faster than the speed of light.. more powerful...

Norm: Homes in 2 places; you have to be faster than the speed...work in 2 places etc. Thanks for your interest. Its Victoria that I love and what can I say. This island is the most beautiful place in Canada.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 22:49:55 CEST 2013 from (216.121.189.31)

Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: Class acts

Wow! misunderstood yet again!

I was very impressed by the classy actions of Peter V. and Al Edge, and said so!

I obviously do not express myself well!


Entered at Sat Apr 13 21:22:03 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Big Sugar

Can any Northern neighbors tell me something about this group?


Entered at Sat Apr 13 21:19:21 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Norm, wonderful story. I'm just glad the little ones are looking after us.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 20:56:52 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Total confusion

Jerry! gawd damn it......you can't be intermittent. You are either one or the other. It strikes me, you never want anyone to know where you are so no one can catch you huh??:):)

Carl, I know yer laughing at me, but.....I gotta keep on keepin' on 'till some one cashes me out of this outfit. There is a chance some guys in Alaska want the outfit........I'm hopin'.

I gotta leave again in the morning ....pourin' ceement on Monday. Y'all be nice, discuss good wholesome music, and be happy.

I gotta give youze one good laugh. Last time I was home, I was out mowing my daughter's lawn and weed eating, (Amanda bust her foot and had a cast on for a couple of weeks). So Elena, my grand daughter who is 3, is running around creating havoc as always. She runs over to Amanda and says. "I got to go to the bathroom, keep your eye on Grandpa."


Entered at Sat Apr 13 18:23:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Billy Preston is quite a legendary album (aka "Early Hits of 1965"). It's well played, but reminds me too strongly of working in a pub with a Hammond / drummer duo one summer (1969?). The organist always had the music of the Top ten and would play any of it on Hammond. The drummer on Billy's record gets relentless to my ear, thrashing away on his own.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 18:14:38 CEST 2013 from (24.196.204.40)

Posted by:

Greg Cleek

Location: New Orleans, La.

thank you for the memories and music....


Entered at Sat Apr 13 16:25:14 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Paul James

Bill M: Make sure you catch Paul James tonight at Hugh's Room. Its a tribute to Bob Dylan (you probably know). A lot of music, having just been at Hugh's Room, but given that it is Paul James, its likely worth the trip.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 13:19:05 CEST 2013 from (71.184.199.161)

Posted by:

TIm

Location: Boston

Subject: Rascals

Caught the Rascals in December in Port Chester. They do about 30 songs, only additions to the core 4 is a bass player and some backup singers. It was great. How Can I Be sure got a standing ovation.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 09:42:46 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: BEG

have a great time - and be sure to report back in full.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 09:05:27 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Mickey Jones,Billy Preston

Several good vinyl finds yesterday … I was in Taunton and Jan will know the shop. Two had mild Band connections.

First was an American copy of “Johnny Rivers Rocks The Folk” one of his less successful LPs from a prolific 1965. They are “The 12 Greatest Folk Songs In A Go Go Style” and it says clearly “Featuring Mickey Jones and Chuck Day.” The interest is they do two Dylan songs, Blowin’ In The Wind & Mr Tambourine Man, and this must have been the current record at the time Dylan went to see Johnny Rivers and decided to recruit Mickey Jones. It also has a cover of If I Had A Hammer, which Mickey Jones had played on the Trini Lopez “Live at PJs”, which was the biggest hit version. Anyway, the Mickey Jones link was why I picked it up.

The other find was a new 180g vinyl pressing of the obscure “Greatest Hits of 1965” by Billy Preston, briefly a Band member. It looks like one of those many “Hammond A Go Go” budget LPs of covers of recent hits, and that’s probably exactly what it was intended to be. He’s billed as “Played by the greatest organist ever.” It’s reissued by Vampi Soul from the Vee Jay original. I picked it up because Billy Preston’s instrumental of In The Midnight Hour (on Atlantic 45) has been a record I’ve played a lot recently. Anyway, it’s Billy playing the expected (Shotgun, Stop In The Name of Love, My Girl) plus the unexpected … Ferry Cross The Mersey, Eight Days A Week, King Of The Road, Goldfinger.

Also a nice Dutch copy of Mixed Up Confusion / Corrina, Corrina, a single that was never released in Britain, but which was heavily imported in 1967. And I picked up Olivia Newton-John's If Not For You single in a charity shop for 10p … you rarely see them that cheap nowadays. It's always been a "guilty pleasure" and I think an excellent Dylan cover, basically accompanied by The Shadows!


Entered at Sat Apr 13 07:44:18 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronna

Kevin J: On Wednesday evening when we went to see Tony "Wild T" Springer sitting in for the regular guitarist half of a duo. Because he didn't know the guy's original tunes they just played a bunch of standards. BEG woulda liked the five Marley numbers, but I said to myself that you would have appreciated Springer doing David Wilcox's "Bearcat".

At his suggestion we went to Hugh's Room tonight to see him, Jack deKeyzer, Danny Marks and others doing a tribute to The Three Kings (Albert, BB and Freddy). The bassist turned out to be an old friend, who came over for a chat and mentioned that he'll be part of the Tribute To Levon show at Hugh's in two weeks. A perfect gig for him, a dyed-in-the-wool Levon fan who caught the Hawks a bunch of times through the early sixties.

John D: For some reason, watching Jack deKeyzer play reminded that I saw him play not once but twice with Hawkins that week at the Beverly Hills Motor Hotel in '77 (?). Now I'm wondering if I saw you there on the opening night (Monday or Tuesday I guess) or on the Saturday night when Levon and Jerry Penfound showed up. Do you remember at all?


Entered at Sat Apr 13 04:14:02 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

Bonk

Location: SAlt Spring Island.

Subject: NORM

Umm, Ohh Norm. Didn't you retire. Or was that just your GUEETARR!


Entered at Sat Apr 13 02:50:58 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Puking???

Now Y'all knock all this shit off!!!......no I never puked yet Kevin. I just got home today. Felt like a little relax, and sat down here to see some, "mild controversy".

Bob F, I have been treated very well by you, and I have your respect. I can understand your feathers getting a little ruffled, (and I haven't even found what Bill said). However, I know that I have made literal mistakes here, probably more than a few. There are others here, (not many) who really don't care who they shit on.....Bill Muson is not one of those.

Perhaps you took something the wrong way, some of us who are now pretty familiar with each other over many years, may seem to step over the line. I'm sure that's all this is.

There is no way, Bill or any one else with any sense would purposely direspect you......at least, I don't believe it. If I'm wrong....fuck it! flog me to death. Without being disrepectful to you........it's a small thing.

Kevin!!!!!! get out here this year. Hello Lars!! you low down, no good, son of a deer slayer!

I spent the last week with my excavator I just bought, ripping the old wood deck off my barge. On Monday we pour the concrete on it. I have jobs coming at me left and right, move logs, move equipment, and now......move barge loads of blocks of marble for shipment to China.

I'm an old man for fuck's sake.......somebody's got to buy this outfit. I have a date in New Yawk.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 02:38:33 CEST 2013 from (205.188.117.14)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Bob F. Sensitvity is a good thing, cause it allows people to be open to thoughts, possibilites, views. Just my opinion, but being able to adapt one's sensitivity level to the reality of a situation as needed, or in cases like the one at hand, to be able to harden an artery,to not let the bed bugs bite suck your blood, is a valuable skill to acquire. Don't let Bill M get to you.Lars was on to something when he referred to him as meek, he hasn't shown himself since your reaction.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 00:36:19 CEST 2013 from (69.193.110.245)

Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: tiptoeing through those tulips ( or - April showers bring May flowers....

I posted this a few minutes ago but am not seeing it, so I apologize if a double post occurs. Today would have been Tiny Tim's birthday, and I've wondered over the years whether any of the studio sessions he did with the boys, or some of them, have ever surfaced. I poked around on youtube to no avail, but I don;t know song titles either.


Entered at Sat Apr 13 00:17:53 CEST 2013 from (69.193.110.245)

Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: tiptoeing through those tulips.........

This would have been Tiny Tim's birthday. Have any of those studio sessions he did with some of the boys ever surfaced? I poked around on youtube and didn't find anything but I also don't know song titles........


Entered at Fri Apr 12 20:02:35 CEST 2013 from (67.84.78.79)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Naturally

Bob, for extra effect, eat some asparagus and some mushrooms about an hour or two ahead of time. Don't forget, check which way the wind is blowing before you fire.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 19:06:49 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.10)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Are you calling me Funny?

Bob F: Really happy to see you back.........a thought for you though........for members of the Faux Urbane club ( not that I know any ) being referred to as "Buddy" would be worse than being called a Psycho........it is all relative.....I once blew a fuse at being called affable!


Entered at Fri Apr 12 17:56:25 CEST 2013 from (71.43.124.98)

Posted by:

Dan

Subject: CrossRoads

If someone wants to pull it there is an article on Clapton and the Crossroads Festival in today's NY Times. If pushing for Garth to perform, maybe post on a Clapton website, perhaps linking to Further On Up the Road. Fanciful, I know. Garth's work on Storyville was great - love Resurrection! I'd be just as happy to learn that while in NY, Robbie and Garth got together to noodle around with some musical friends. In the meantime, I enjoy playing Band songs and You Tube moments for my kids, just as my Dad would play Planet Waves was when I was young. Now that the songs are on Satellite Radio (Deep Tracks and the Bridge), my kids hear them - Cripple Creek and Forever Young were played within 15 minutes on Wednesday.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 17:41:57 CEST 2013 from (68.198.167.170)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: Thank You

I want to thank those who responded for their kind words.

BEG, I would rather you had send out Garland's 'Don't Call Me Buckwheat' to Bill M. Since your a teacher, I hope you don't think there is a place for name calling. You should check out this documentery called 'Bully'. I think it should be mandatory watching for all teachers.

Landmark you write that you have no problem with anything Bill M has written. That's great. Bill M who does not know me at all calls me a psycho and you see nothing wrong with that. Is that what your saying? If yes, I would never do this, but I'm assuming you wold have no problem if I start refering to you as the Moron from Montreal. I'm sure you wouldn't like that. Right? Names hurt.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 17:01:09 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: BEG

Sounds like you're really up for it Ang! Great to see such genuine excitement and enthusiasm shining through. Have a terrific weekend.

You need to get them all jigging round Grand Central like that video I linked below!

:-0)

Not sure about Robbie's picks but as for the Rascals I really hope they do "I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore" for you. Not sure if it still figures in their repertoire but for me it's simply one of the greatest pure pop/doo woppy songs I've ever come across. I'm sure it never figured over here as I'd never heard it at all until Pat gave us the nod on here on how good they were. Absolutely love it now. Always stick it on any pop compilations CD's I'm doing.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 15:58:48 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

BEG, keep your wits as you are beginning an epic. I heard a boot of the Rascals show and saw some of it on Youtube. Incredible.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 15:48:38 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Hay in the Barn

Levon cut "Blue Moon of Kentucky" at Bradley's Barn (Mt. Juliette) in 1979 with Fred Carter Jr. producing for the "Coal Miner's Daughter" soundtrack. As Levon later explained, "we figured why not put a little hay in the barn, so we cut twenty more tracks." Ten of those tracks would appear on "American Son" released a year later by MCA.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 14:46:15 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.43)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

dlew919...I would love to have been in your class. I started with political philosophy (comparing Plato to.....Lenin?) and then moved onto radical politics....radical being getting to the roots.....just like the house band The Roots! ;-D I still have one of my papers.....Working Class Women And The Struggle For Democratic Union Organization. Anyway, glad I remembered the first one as that's the most important idea by de Tocqueville.

Without equality of condition how can there be equality of opportunity?

The bass player John D. I'll have to look up his name....being honest here as only a Sagitarrian can be. lol I'm on hold waiting to make sure flight is on schedule.....Ok......Yeah, the only non-Italian-American......Canadian Gene Cornish!
So you weren't jealous that I'll be seeing Robbie Robertson?! I know that you saw him at TLW with all the members of The Band but anytime is a good time to see any member, right?

I'm off to NYC to see ROBBIE ROBERTSON AT ERIC CLAPTON'S GUITAR FESTIVAL and THE RASCALS!!!!!

ACCEPT THE GOOD


Entered at Fri Apr 12 14:34:19 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: THE RASCALS!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, Beg now I am jelous!!! Without looking it up here's a trivia question. Who is the one Canadian in the band. Kind of like the opposite of our boys; who had one American in the group.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 11:30:38 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Politics, religion, and what's the other one?

I spent some years teaching politics to broad classes, and while I have views, I try not to express them. My classes were made up from those jsut to the right of David Icke to those just to the left of your favourite anarchy-syndicalist, to those who were just to the left of Mao, and just to the right of Mussolini. S, views don't bother me. (There were a lot of in between). If I overstepped the line, Im sorry. However, what unites us passion.

The one time I lost control of a class was in a debate over whether Cuba was a beter place to live than the United States. (An irrevelant topic to whatever the lecture was.. I suspect something on one of the australian political parties).

Angelina, I believe the first one to be de Tocqueville. The second one, I don't quite know. (It's been a little whole since I lectured politics- thank god... I much prefer music history).


Entered at Fri Apr 12 08:49:19 CEST 2013 from (75.34.56.43)

Posted by:

Adam

Jon Lyness - I really want to thank you for a comment you made awhile ago. You mentioned to Sebastian that you think I would be a great choice to interview Robbie some time. Thank you so much for your encouragement, you're a great guy and that means a lot to me.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 08:47:37 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Scousers having an impromptu party

I have to stress this was prior to the news of baronness Hilda's sad passing

:-0)


Entered at Fri Apr 12 07:43:16 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

"Naturally" was a great favourite here. I had a "Really" T-shirt with the logo that I treasured for years but it fell apart after about twenty. Poor quality, I guess. I got out some photos of me plus kids in Canada in 1994 to show my grandkids. To my deep embarrassment, one pointed out that I was wearing the very same rugby shirt that day as now. Still, that's only 19 years. It is looking a little frayed around the collar. I doubt it will make 25.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 07:39:06 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.43)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


Entered at Fri Apr 12 07:13:53 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.43)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Pat B!!!! I am now have tickets for THE RASCALS IN NYC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Entered at Fri Apr 12 05:49:31 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: JJ Cale Naturally

And a great album cover - framed and hanging in my office for years now!


Entered at Fri Apr 12 04:56:50 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Jeff 'Naturally"

Right on the money! Released 1972[1] "Naturally" J.J. Cale Recorded September 29, 1970–June 9, 1971 at Bradley's Barn, Mt. Juliet, Tennessee and Moss Rose Studio, Nashville, Tennessee : A wonderful album, said to be his first, and the start of a great career.

There were others recorded there also as you said.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 03:03:03 CEST 2013 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

David, i could be mistaken, but i'm thinking JJ Cale reorded some of his better albums at Bradley's Barn. If i am wrong, i am prepared to stand in the corner again. and since i wrote "albums", plural, it would be for ten minutes, not 5.However, Pat owes me some minutes, so, , hey come to think of it, even if i'm wrong, i'm owed minutes. I ain't standing in the corner next time I'm wrong. You guys owe me....


Entered at Fri Apr 12 01:16:59 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Andy Johns

Sad news again... I just read that producer and all round sound whiz, Andy Johns, has died at age 62 while in hospital with a stomach ulcer (no details as to how and why? to date). He produced one of my favourite albums, Exile on Main Street (RStones) and many others. His brother is Glyn Johns, who produced many of our favourite records.


Entered at Fri Apr 12 00:06:11 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Class Acts

I know I'm a relative late-comer to this site ( a few years now but not nearly as long as some here) I've been reading and following up on the political views expressed and keeping my eye also on the intermittent vitriol that is a feature of all sites like this. It is prevalent in the 'comments' section after newspaper articles often by prominent writers. In my view, such comments do little to enhance the site. We should abandon 'severity and meanness' and present our views in a coherent, firm and polite manner. Having said that, because we can't see the 'wink' sometimes intended which goes along with some comment, I suggest that we accept that the wink is indeed intended, especially by those who we know have no ill intent. We will never be perfect in our comments and undoubtedly, we will inadvertently at times 'step over the line' or some line unintentionally. I hope that those who are affected by comments take those comments in the spirit in which they were meant. I'd like to believe that it is rare on a creative site like this one that anyone has mean or ill intent. Maybe I'm an optimist, but that's what I think.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 22:35:55 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Music from Bradley's Barn

Ronnie Hawkins' version of "You Win Again" was recorded at the orginal Bradley's Barn quonset hut studio in Nashville in 1960. It was included on the Roulette LP "Ronnie Hawkins Sings the Songs of Hank Williams". Joining Levon on backup were top Nashville session cats, including Floyd Cramer, Hank Garland, Bob Moore and Harold & Owen Bradley. The quonset hut, located on 16th Avenue (Music Row) was later sold to Columbia in 1962. Harold and his brother Owen opened a new Bradley's Barn studio in 1965 in Mt. Juliett, outside Nashville.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 21:34:39 CEST 2013 from (216.121.189.31)

Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: Class act

Peter V. and Al Edge- superlative class!


Entered at Thu Apr 11 21:26:00 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Brown Eyed Girl

Thanks so much fo the link.I'm most eager to see this movie.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 21:23:20 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.43)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon Helm Documentary Director Jacob Hatley Talks Living in The Band Leader’s Barn

By Adam Pockross
Movie Talk
Mon, Apr 8

For Ari, Jed and Joan and anyone else who hasn't seen AIIFMH.

Max Webster??!!

Thank you sadavid. When I met Lanois he told me that Robbie needs to play more guitar!


Entered at Thu Apr 11 21:13:05 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Basement Tapes Influences: Bob Dylan & The Band

This "European copyright" CD arrived today, one of the "original versions of songs made famous by …" CDs. Levon actually appears on it, courtesy of the Ronnie Hawkins version of You Win Again, which is interesting as he doesn't appear on the Basement Tapes version. They chose the Hawkins version deliberately because he's on it, I suspect. Very good sleeve notes by Derek Barker of ISIS magazine. And not always the obvious choices … it's a nice album.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:59:01 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Daniel Lanois honoured

Daniel Lanois has produced records for many, many artists including Robbie Robertson, Bob Dylan, Neil Young and Emmylou Harris.

At a June 1 gala, Mr. Lanois will be one of the six 2013 recipients of the Governor General’s Performing Arts Awards for Lifetime Artistic Achievement.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:59:35 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Joan, it makes it exceptionally easy for the cleaning crew. With those steely eyes directly facing you at exactly eye level, I found it impossible to use the facility at all.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:35:55 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Politics/Religion

The old saying that one should avoid discussing politics and religion in civil company just might apply here as well.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:30:14 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Ari/Joan

Ari--I went to cinema village website and you can reserve tix right there. Joan--it would be an honor to meet you,but I'm actually going with my wife and a buddy to the first of the 2 shows that day,at 3:15.We're all sneaking out of work early!


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:26:18 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Augusta

Pat: Will have to check out that book about the Powder Works.

Blind Willie McTell was born in nearby Thomson, GA and James Brown was born across the river over in Barnwell, South Carolina.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:13:47 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: Dubois

Subject: reckoning

LANDMARK- It doesn't matter if you misunderstood my post, but for the benefit of the GB population in general, I have to say that I bear no ill will towards anybody in the community. If what I said about Bill was offensive, then I apologize (something I rarely do). It was meant more like "hard kidding," but the danger of doing that in printed format is that nobody can see the wink that goes along with it. Besides, being meek is actually a good thing since those guys stand a good chance of coming into one helluva inheritance.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:13:56 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.10)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bob F:: As others have said well - wires do get crossed in bars where no one really knows anyone else......like a strip bar.....but you should have been around years back where this GB was a renegade attachment to The Band website and bench clearing brawls broke out daily......PV was Head Prefect and used to hand out suspensions!............anyhow, I have it on good authority that at this very moment Bill M is driving up and down Yonge Street with his windows open blarIng Max Webster..........I would kick him out of the Cool Kids Club myself but I had my ticket pulled from that thing in the 80's for liking Robert Smith.......the red lipstick thing didn't sit well with the other members.......

Please stick around Bob.....you are as fine a contributor to this site as we have and I look forward to all of your thoughts ( except the Cher things ) and musical tips.....always.

That all said, Bill M is a friend to many here....never afraid to come late or leave early.....Meek he is not.....just wrong or mixed up in word choice as is Lars.......Norm must be puking over deck at all this!


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:12:55 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Bob F

I hope you will reconsider not returning. It would be a loss for all of us. I know sometimes it gets a little contentious, but in the end we are just a bunch of people who love The Band.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:06:15 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Peter V / Jed

Peter they just put those pictures up so you would something to aim for. It is easier also for the cleaning crew.:-).

Jed will also be at the evening showing. I''ll be in a wheel chair. Easy to find. Anyone else ?


Entered at Thu Apr 11 20:02:36 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

David P, a friend of mine is one of the authors.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 19:55:06 CEST 2013 from (68.196.243.53)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Peter, i must point out what i find to be an inaccuracy in your post. Al and you have disagreed regularly on a staple subject. al hasn't really participated in discussions of that nature in quite some years. When Al was a regular participant in discussions that pertained to Band songwriting credits and related subject matter, you guys were on opposite sides of the fence.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 19:22:10 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: From Gunpowder to Fairways & Greens

You can tell it's spring when the crowds descend upon that sleepy Georgia city for the prestigious Masters golf tournament. That hallowed place, Augusta, is located about 150 miles east of Atlanta, where the coastal plain meets the Piedmont plateau at the fall line on the Savannah River.

It's hard to believe that this tranquil setting was once a key site for the Confederate war effort some 150 years ago. At the beginning of the Civil War the Confederate Powder Works was built on the Augusta Canal, near the Savannah River and the railway. This was the only permanent building constructed by the Confederate States of America. It was actually comprised of 26 buildings, the most prominent being the refinery, where almost all of the gunpowder for the Confederacy was produced. During the course of the war, 2.75 milion pounds, at approximately 7,000 pounds of gunpowder per day were produced. When the Federal Government confiscated the powder works in April 1865, there was still a surplus of 70,000 pounds of powder remaining.

There has been much conjecture over the intervening years as to why Maj. Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman detoured around Augusta on his march to the sea through Georgia after torching Atlanta in November, 1864. In his own memoirs he indicated that it was a defensive move, as he believed it was heavily defended by a large number of troops and homeguard. Other evidence indicates that the Confederates had created a ruse by sending false telegraph reports that Gen. Bragg with Longstreet's Corps and other Confederate troops were in position to defend Augusta.

So, all these years later, this city spared by Sherman, once again commands worldwide attention, in hushed tones, as men in casual, sporting attire, seek to don a green jacket in Butler Cabin at the Augusta National Golf Course.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 19:14:08 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Bob F and Bill M are both valued posters. It happens. Wires get crossed … even me and Al were disagreeing which is unusual.

A "Without prejudice" comment on Maggie. I had lunch with two guys I've known since my first day at secondary school when I was eleven years old today, in a Dorset country pub. I went for a pee, and there were framed posters of various hunting scenes and such in the Gents. Right over the urinals, they'd framed the fulsome front page tributes to Maggie from The Daily Telegraph and The Daily Mail. We had all noticed them, and had much more important topics to discuss, like The Dovells and Dr Feelgood & The Interns, and we had no political discussion. But we couldn't work out at all whether they were a heartfelt tribute or, by their placing, an insult. Rural Dorset? I'd guess a tribute, but the Tolpuddle Martyrs also came from rural Dorset. I really still don't have a clue!


Entered at Thu Apr 11 18:57:52 CEST 2013 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

As someone who's made his own share of backhanded remarks here in the 6 1/2 years or so, I've been posting, I have never seen anything offensive in what Bill has posted. A bit off-colour perhaps, but not rude or mean spirited.

Lars, so nice of you to criticize Bill and then give him 2 shots yourself.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 18:49:51 CEST 2013 from (66.65.92.140)

Posted by:

Ari

Subject: Jed

Jed how did you get tickets. Brown Eyed Girl, wish I could be there, thanks for the kind words. Let us know how it is!


Entered at Thu Apr 11 18:47:30 CEST 2013 from (68.196.243.53)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Pissin With The Wind.

Bob F. Wires do get crossed on the internet. Bill M. certainly does have a wealth of knowledge about canadian music and where it crosses some music that originates here in the U.S.A. I would assume that it's a safe bet there are at least a handful of other positive contributions he makes to civilization- for example, maybe he feeds birds in his backyard and helps elderly women cross the street. But, i think it a safer bet that i have a lower opinion of his personality than he of mine. Which could be difficult,maybe it's a photo finish. However, i know that i give no creedence to his opinions or any of the swipes he takes at me, so if you have thought he takes some swipes at you, blow it off. You are in good company, mine. If that doesn't make you feel better, isolate his statement, print it out, take the page outdoors, and piss on it.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 18:36:51 CEST 2013 from (184.145.75.159)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Hang in there, Bob F. Your posts are much too valued by relative ignorenti [well, as a made-up word it sounds OK] like me to depart. Lars and Pat are right. Bill M is just — well, Toronto-smart and faux-urbane, so you can't hang him for that. But, regardless, please stay. We can always use a good counterfoil or two.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 18:21:41 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

By commenting on the few keyboardists who have gotten some star time at Crossroads, I wasn't trying to lobby for Garth. It's Eric and Robbie's thing and they should do whatever they want.

Bob F, don't go. Bill M is no bully but wires get crossed on the inet all the time.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 18:17:34 CEST 2013 from (180.246.72.148)

Posted by:

KoTattoo

Location: UK
Web: My link

Subject: Best Gallery

Thanks so much for the few days spent in our motorhome recently at your property.We would thoroughly recomend this accommodation and would most definitely stay there again.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 18:05:19 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: The GB, good & bad

I have to admit I don't come in here too often anymore. It's not that I'm disillusioned- quite the opposite. For years this GB was plagued by petty bickering and hard feelings (no sense in dredging that up any more than just acknowledging it), but now Jan has a GB full of intelligent musical postings. The esoteric nature of the discourse is beyond me....after reading a post from Peter Viney or David Powell, I'm in awe. This place has never been better.

BOB F- If you must go, don't go away angry (and I hope that you reconsider). I seldom see eye to eye with Bill M., but I don't take it personally. He's got to do something with all of that time on his hands. If he, or anyone else, really ticks you off, then just scroll through his posts. I can't agree with you that he's a bully. He seems pretty meek to me. You can't tell me that someone who survived a tough school like Marlboro High School is gonna get worked up by Bill ("I Want to Take You Higher") Munson.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 17:27:16 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.43)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hey Bob F....Here's The Cure's "Love Song" by Candice Glover......Keith Urban bows to her 'cause her performance is pure dope!

Bill M's not a bully. The few very brief times we met; my impression is that he would not intentionally bully anyone. Most of his witty posts and sometimes disguised sarcasm are usually directed at me 'cause I'd never make it in the Secret Service or "cool kids club". I'm having the last laugh by going to Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival to see Robbie Robertson play guitar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do ya want me to take care of things when I see him in a couple of weeks? ;-D

Snowing here but I saw a pretty cardinal outside my window.....singing just for me.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 17:01:36 CEST 2013 from (68.198.167.170)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley, NY

Subject: Bully

Bill M, sometimes what you think is your witty banter comes off as hateful sarcasm. Calling someone you don't know a psycho because they took issue months ago with one of your mean comments is really horrible. This is what I was refering to back then when I mentioned the "cool kids club". This will be my last post on the Guestbook. Happy now?


Entered at Thu Apr 11 16:51:41 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: when a potentate passes

A "vacuous historical romance."


Entered at Thu Apr 11 16:08:35 CEST 2013 from (69.253.167.212)

Posted by:

Luke

Location: PA

Peter V, a think your assessment of MT is very reasonable. She wasn't exactly warm and fuzzy. My best to all fellow Band lovers, left, right, or center!!!


Entered at Thu Apr 11 15:45:27 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Politics and music

I have been reading all the posts back and forth regarding the passing of a politician and the impact, both negative, and positive, that an individual had during that person's holding of political power. Like many, I have arrived at the conclusion that political power, no matter whether it favours or offends one's status and views, is a great burden which often leads an individual leader, no mater how well intentioned, in a direction that is to the detriment of many. The impact on lives whether it comes from the left or the right is huge. The difference... those who receive the blows form the right have less capacity to tolerate those blows. But the phenomenon of political power is the same. We've all been through it in a lifetime, whether its MT in the UK or leaders in the west or the Eruopean leaders of the past century or the current leaders of the east.. Best as some have said is to 'leave it alone' once all the feelings are out and return to the music. Having said that, it is very interesting to read the opposing and often diverse views of so many here. We are united ,however, by the harmony of notes.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 15:12:47 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Levon Movie

Just got tix to see the Levon documentary at Cinema Village Theater on 4/19.Looking forward to seeing the film and spending that day with Levon in my thoughts.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 14:34:03 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.43)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Although I've seen Robert Cray (only 60 this year) at our Bluezzz Fest and at Ontario Place.....I've never witnessed "I Wonder"......or......."Pardon".
A guitarist who can sing.....play tasteful guitar when he's motivated.....and easy on these dark brown eyes.
With Robert you have to have patience.....At around 3:53 he starts his magic. This particular performance is somewhat different than the original but I wanted to see him perform. Every time I hear this song....I can see Levon playing drums and brown eyed girl playing guitar. ;-D

Hey Tiny! I remember you posting that you've seen Robert Cray many times in the Bay area. Have you seen him lately?


Entered at Thu Apr 11 13:55:49 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.43)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

If Robbie plays harmonics on Saturday night I will especially be in musical heaven. Two days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again......Robbie Robertson and his many guitars and interview.

When you say your guitar style became more melodic and chordal, a la Cropper or Curtis Mayfield, but it wasn’t that way with Dylan, was there a transition in there?

There was. It was becoming that way [with Dylan]. I was heading there on The Basement Tapes. But that was just a ragged process – The Basement Tapes. There wasn’t much thought put into anything; it was just kind of rattling it off and having a good time.

As opposed to blues and rock and roll with Ronnie Hawkins, did having to play to a Dylan song make you listen more?

Well, he just gave me too many guitar solos (laughs)! He’d sing a verse, then look over again. I’d say, “Okay.” It was like a new experience for Bob, having that kind of facility of music, for people to play different things. He wanted to wail, and there was something about it when we played together, it was hard to be discreet. Things really ended up catching on fire very quickly, and tempos got fast. It was leaning toward a certain kind of excitement that was available; all you had to do was push on the accelerator.

When you started writing the type of things that came out with The Band, which were compositional in a whole different sense, did that dictate that you didn’t want to step on the accelerator all the way every time.

You know, it was really reaching for emotional things, and it wasn’t about just depending on excitement. It was depending on just things that would hopefully send chills down your spine and touch an emotional nerve.

With all the different hats you’ve worn, do you still think of yourself as a guitar player?

It’s evolved over the years, but I probably think of myself as a songwriter first. The guitar playing and the songwriting and the singing – all those things kind of blend together.

Do you write on guitar?

I write on guitar and piano.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 12:21:38 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My fault, Al … I should remember 'Let's get back to the music.' I used to type it often enough myself!


Entered at Thu Apr 11 12:16:26 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Apologies for my curtness Pete. It was uncalled for and unwarranted. No matter what we agree or disagree about I was wrong to be dismissive. I guess I'm frustrated because old wounds have been re-opened, sucking me into this without having the time to give it the attention it needs.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 11:40:14 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Let's leave it alone, Al. My underlying feeling was you can't demonize just one person and focus all the ills on them, however powerful they were. There was a lot of stuff going on before her which wrecked the economy, and a lot of stuff after.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 11:22:01 CEST 2013 from (41.162.7.114)

Posted by:

NUX

Web: My link

Subject: The Shape I'm In

Remember this,I'm sure it has been posted before.Anyway,here it is again.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 10:59:36 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: The lens

So you dismiss the content of her speech because of the socialist prototype with whom you deem to tag her?

For the record she's as far away from 'Tory' Blair/Ed Miliband type Hampstead prototype 'theoretical' socialist as I am from Thatcher. She's as working class real as anything you get these days. She hasn't forgotten her roots. Nor will she ever. She IS those roots.

Try moving from your convenient pre-ordained/pre-determined creeds for once Pete.

As I said all this is immensely frustrating as I'm so far behind with stuff and I just haven't got the time at the moment to afford such fundamental issues the time and respect they deserve.

But do carry on muddying the waters

:-0)


Entered at Thu Apr 11 10:34:08 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, Al. Glenda may be right, but I just can't take rich Hampstead socialists seriously as a breed. Which includes The Ed Miller Band.

The continual reassessments in the press here keep the legacy of Thatcher in the mind. I remember a history teacher who may have been a frustrated accountant, because British prime ministers could be summed up in four columns. You mark out four columns, DOMESTIC FOREIGN ECONOMIC and IRELAND and then put a plus, a minus or a zero (neutral) in each column. From vague memory Palmerston and Disraeli got big pluses in foreign, and Gladstone got the pluses in Domestic and Ireland. It extends to US Presidents, but you replace IRELAND with CIVIL RIGHTS. In fact, I guess there’s a period when Britain needs five columns, adding EUROPE, though for today that just replaces IRELAND, where even Blair (spit on the ground) got a plus.

It throws up interesting results. Unpopular leaders get good marks in some places. Nixon may get the best FOREIGN mark of all. Johnson gets a good CIVIL RIGHTS mark, not through conviction perhaps, but by having the political skill and influence to get Kennedy’s legislation through. Popular leaders get bad ones in some columns. So JFK has the Bay of Pigs and the start of the Vietnam war to balance against the Cuban Missile crisis.

On ECONOMIC, I don’t think Thatcher’s privatisation and selling of shares can be blamed for the banking crisis. The unrestrained coke-fuelled gambling culture in the City of London comes much later and happened under an allegedly “Labour” government, and her dream of a property and share owning democracy was ruined much later, when all the little people who bought British Gas or British Telecom shares from the government realized that computerized dealing made the individual investor powerless.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 09:22:38 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Her

I will respond. Maybe by the weekend. Just wiped out at the mo. Not sure if you can fill in Si? :-0)

Thanks to all for comments etc but particularly those who clearly have a sense of and feel for things that bit beneath the surface.

I'm posting a link to our very own special Scouse heroine Glenda Jackson as she addressed the Commons yesterday. Needless to say the background din is from affronted accolytes of the woman whose legacy Glenda is addressing who simply cannot bear to hear the bitter human truth of Thatcher's true legacy.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 04:58:18 CEST 2013 from (24.114.24.10)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Garth

LINK: Steve Winwood 2007 on guitar! Clapton was very vocal at the time of wanting to showcase Stevie's guitar playing.

I now feel a bit guilty suggesting this in the first place.......it was a hope....a dream scenario in some ways but I also made note of the above LINK and pointed out that it would be easier to fit if Garth could play guitar like Stevie Winwood can..........Let's celebrate RR without turning this into a silly negative for goodness sake.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 03:33:43 CEST 2013 from (108.204.12.163)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Margaret Thatcher

I must admit to being surprised to hear of the passing of Margaret Thatcher. In all honesty I hadn't realized that she was even alive. Thought she had died years ago for some reason.

Apparently her policies were unpopular with many. I do feel for those who were harmed directly or indirectly by any harsh decisions she may have made.

I understand the emotion that many may have of no love lost, and others happy to see her out of a power position, but I was quite surprised to see the very public celebrations of the her death, with people literally popping champagne bottles and dancing in the public square. As an outsider, it seemed somewhat barbaric and unsettling.

We, as humans, can't be loved by everyone, but celebrating a death in that manner just strikes me as pushing the limits of our own karmic existence.....however I do believe in freedom of expression, so have at it if so inclined.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 02:03:38 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Thatcher

Al - Is she venerated by a sizable portion of the English populace - not due to her death - but out of love for what she did? Our own Iron Lady - Reagan - has had a big rebirth, rewrite, deification by the right-wing here. I'd guess they're 35/40% our population. And, in fairness to Reagan, I think he'd roll in his grave with all the matters (like gun control - he was for controls) that are ascribed to him by our loony-right.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 00:48:27 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.61)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Liverpool is a city Brien. Numbers are very different. What did you write Al, effects still felt, 30 years later? during a bad economy, the majority of inhabitants of a whole city should pack up, sell their houses,and go.Who do they sell to? the mega rich, who could afford to steal property when possible, then wait till there is an upswing 2 or 3 decades later to cash in on their carpetbaggery? of course, it probably happened in some cases for a variety of reasons. i don't doubt you sympathize to some small point, but it's too easy to say hey, people just have to do what they have to do. even for people who do responded quickly, and founnd a way no matter what they had to do, that doesn't mean the effects aren't devastating or long lasting. And not everyone gets to adapt successfully in these kind of situations.


Entered at Thu Apr 11 00:23:05 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Pat

Thanks,Pat for your post.I realize I might be annoying many by beating this Garth issue to death,but heck,it's Garth and Robbie.The 3 guys are gone and this is who remains and it's seems quite ok for fans who love these guys to have strong feelings about seeing them together.And,without intending any disrespect to RR,I believe,perhaps incorrectly, that if RR asked EC to include Garth,it would happen.Still hoping it does.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 23:01:02 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Tim Carmon and Steve Winwood are two more keyboardists who have been featured at Crossroads.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 22:21:31 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Billy Preston at Crossroads 2004

It may have been a guitar thing, but Billy Preston, as a member of Eric Clapton's band at the time, was featured on an extended organ solo on "Have You Ever Loved A Woman" (see link).


Entered at Wed Apr 10 20:54:19 CEST 2013 from (69.120.108.104)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

That's why reading and acknowledging the whole thing is better than cherry picking the bitching. I acknowledged that it isn't easy. I've seen the devastation multi-corps can have on small towns but given you could rot away in one or try to figure out a way to move on is on the person.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 20:37:00 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.61)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Al, i believe you and can understand how you feel, and the why of it.

It's easy to say things

Packing up and moving, which if not exactly what Brien wrote, may be close. Well, when you are living a solidly middle class working stiff existence, which can very well mean you have a mortgage and are just squeaking by, and now the economy in your city is wiped out, how the hell are you supposed to sell your home and be able to move.Who the hell is goinggn to buy it for what it was worth, or possibly what you paid for it even? selling the house being the first step in being able to relocate.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 19:37:05 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Just like Churchill could have walked away at the end of WWII with a great deal of credit without having laid Dresden to waste, Thatcher could have beaten the unions without then laying the industrial cities to waste. History may shrug these things off, and none of us will be around when history is decided, but until then it's up to the Al Es of the world (i.e., all of us) to chip in.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 18:43:58 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I admit you have point, Luke, in that the strikes of 1979 were astonishingly destructive as they had been for several years. In early 1979, we had a young baby, and the power was going off all the time. At the point she came in, even the dead were being left unburied as the result of continual politically motivated strikes. I was a teacher's representative, and as I've said before, went on a union representative course where the content was how to rig meetings by boring everyone with points of order until all the moderates went home and then you could put the radical agenda through, because the meeting had been quorate when it started, and was still legally quorate though sixty people had gone home, and just a dozen militants were left.

At the next meeting, I lost several left-wing friends permanently by describing the course to the meeting and telling people if they went home before the end, they knew what would happen. There were a lot of extreme militants manipulating unions.

I also think she was right on the Falklands, showed great courage over the IRA, and would have been right on Gulf War One if they hadn't got rid of her.

BUT she was also ruthless and I never liked her as a person. But the Arthur Scargills and Derek Hattons were even nastier bastards than she was.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 18:35:26 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Funny you should say that. The other day I walked past a television tuned to the Turner Movie channel and heard the announcer refer to "Three Days of the Condor" as an "iconic film". 1) Who knew? 2) If so, it's probably one of the few I've seen; I remember that when I saw it I wanted Redford's hair, Redford's denim shirt, and Redford's job. Imagine getting paid for sitting around reading books all day, looking for interesting links among them? I do my best here at the GB of course, but there's no pay and generally no response. But then, nobody, not even the psychos who say things like "What's your problem Buddy", come barging in the back door with semi-automatics.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 18:16:00 CEST 2013 from (69.253.167.212)

Posted by:

Luke

Location: PA

I guess it doesn't occur to the Thatcher bashers that the majority of the electorate disagreed with you for eleven years. She brought England back from the abyss and returned it to prominence. The best PM since Churchill. I was in England in 1978 and in the mid 80's and it was night and day. Much better under Thatcher.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 17:43:49 CEST 2013 from (50.101.57.214)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thanks Jon L. Hey, I forgot to say that we knew since November about Robbie being at Eric's Guitar Festival but I couldn't get any tickets then. It was only last week that more tickets became available. Many, many thanks for posting about this show as it made me try again and this time I lucked out.

I just tried to get tickets to the Rolling Stones with Mick Taylor and they're even more expensive so I'll have to wait until more tickets become available but I would looooove to see them perform "Angie", "Time Waits For No One" and "Waiting On A Friend". I haven't seen hardly any shows in the last eight or so years so on my year off I'm making it special by seeing some shows that I've never been to as in Robbie playing live....Mick Taylor with the Stones, etc.

Sad news Jon.....Remember the friend you met who I was staying with in the West Village? I only found out this week that she passed three years ago......I thought maybe she was living with her daughter in Joisey or was in a home as her dementia progressed......She was the main reason I could be in NYC so many times to see so many shows. This time I'll be staying on the same street while in NYC but it will never be the same. I'm glad that she came with me to Garth's gig with the Hummingbirds (saw you there) and to one of Garland Jeffreys' parties..... Louuuuuise was a beautiful soul who was like a sister I never had.... :-D

Thanks to you too Lil. When you posted about Knockin' Lost John I was trying very hard to remember him as I never had any interactions with him in the GB or via email. It was then I tried online to find any info (phone was disconnected for years)....about my friend as she taught at NYU and was a therapist at one time.....I found her....PHD Louuuuise had passed. She was game for anything. She would have joined me at Eric's Festival for sure. I can't tell you how much of a loss she is for me. When I lost my mom...I phoned her and right away she asked if I needed to be in NYC as I always have so much fun there and we'd have looooong talks about life. I only saw her once more breifly before she went into the (hospital that Louuuu sings) about when imagezulu came with me.

"Accept the Good" and "All Things Must Pass".

Bill M....I think you'd be good working for the Secret Service.... ;-D
I only took Poli Sci for four years and some courses from your old school where I was given credit to attend UofT.

Brien...Check out link from the Wall Street Journal.

Two must see films are "Ginger and Rosa" and "The Sapphires"!!! I also saw the doc "The GateKeepers".


Entered at Wed Apr 10 16:52:33 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Six years of university, much of it majoring in poli-sci, and you didn't learn about the secret ballot? Sigh.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 16:17:27 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

BEG, great find on Robbie & Eric 2007... never saw that one. Have fun at the Garden shows!


Entered at Wed Apr 10 15:56:34 CEST 2013 from (50.101.57.214)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I'm with Karen Viney on her take on MT. Her male and conservative dominated side ruled her decisions to the point where education and health wasn't the foundation of a society. It's also very mind blowing that the USA has not voted in a female president and Canada only had Kim Campbell briefly......just like MT.....Conservative. Btw Peter, some of us have six years of higher schooling to become a teacher as my graduate program was two years after I received my four year degree. I also have a diploma from the school Bill M and imagezulu attended.

The only thing I respect about Margaret Thatcher is that she was a woman who was able to more than navigate in a male dominated political world.

Poli Sci Professor dlew919...My degree was in Sociology and major in Poli Sci. Help me here....Alexis de Tocqueville said without equality of condition you can't have equality of opportunity? If so......right on and if he didn't say this I need to know who did. Also, was he the one who said that democracy and liberalism aren't compatible?

Hey Brien...We'll never agree on politics and that's ok. My friends are left of centre like myself, liberal and conservative. My family voted federally Liberal but locally voted NDP. My late mother was in a union and I'm sure glad that I'm in in one (although conservative teachers will call it a Federation instead) as I only own my labour power. We did own two businesses before we became proletarianized.....So I can relate to small biz for sure but never big buisness and it's mantra of profit before anything. The late Steve and I maybe were the only posters here who voted NDP. If education and health care are socialist ideals for all......then count me in as a pink poster. Btw, today is international day of PINK.....to combat bullying in cyberspace, work place, personal space.

Ari....I wish you could attend Eric's Guitar Festival as well as I know from your posts that seeing Robbie would have been more icing on your birthday cake. When I was a student I had to live frugally and I'm still a frugalista....otherwise I wouldn't be able to treat myself to one show et alone two. It's weird that last week I received two tickets in the male for one night....if it wasn't the same seat I'd give it to you and you could pay me back when you become a famous filmmaker Ari. The other ticket I will be picking up this week. I sincerely hope you'll have another opportunity Ari. I had to wait 39 years!! lol

Oh....and I received my Robbie Robertson postcards today....and more Robbie stamps....Maybe Peter V will receive one from NYC!


Entered at Wed Apr 10 15:24:14 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Golden Door: A.A. Gill

Brien (and everyone) a book I recommend is A.A. Gill's "The Golden Door" which he describes as a "Love letter to America." He has many fine and insightful and funny passages, but one that came to mind reading your post was on emigration from Europe to the USA. For two hundred years, people in Europe kissed their families goodbye and set out for America. 99% of them would never see their families again, and knew it when they left. That's why I think, towns were allowed to die as economies changed. Think of all those migrations within the USA. The blues singer trail from the South to the North. The Okies and Arkies to the West. Then, I guess, industry returning to the New South.

Those who left Europe had a genetic tendency to travel on.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 15:00:34 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

One of the facts about Thatcher I forgot: when she took power, a teacher aged 28 was paid much more than an ordinary police officer of the same age (four years higher education should count for something). When she left, that margin had been more than reversed. Of course, extremist politicians everywhere value the police more than education.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 14:47:29 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Jeff

Nothing you could dream up would have been remotely bad enough for that woman. Not even a night in listening to Jim Morrison.

:-0)


Entered at Wed Apr 10 14:36:43 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Her

Pete/Brien, not got the time to get deeply into whys and wherefors, I'm sorry to say. But I should clarify a few things before complete misreprentation takes hold.

There's clearly elements of truth and reality in what you both say. But it has very little to do with the points I was making.

Sure, nobody/nowhere has divine rights to anything. And nobody's saying that for a single moment. Certainly not me of all fuckin people.

In essence what I was attempting to explain is why Liverpudlians have a particularly singular axe of contempt to grind with that heinous women. Not saying for a single moment that nowhere else has but certainly in the UK no other single place of Liverpool's size, history and stature has anything like the concentrated reason for such grievance.

And the reality is if you weren't around to experience it first hand then you stand very little chance of understanding it and no chance whatsoever if you carry right wing persuasions of any degree.

What Thatcher did was avoidable. She didn't have to reign over such devastation. She chose a route under which those for whom she had no regard would pay the price for her selection of that route. Herself and her kind were scarcely touched. me and my kind were. It could and should have been managed in a responsible considered way. That it wasn't was the choice of her and her monetarist think tank. Laissez Faire Governmental dealings with capitalism is not compulsory. There are less savage alternatives.

The key sentence of my post was this - "The obsession for a strong sterling, killing two birds with a single song [sic] - extinguishing exports to bring down inflation with huge unemployment from the resultant industrial decimation was never so parochially illustrated."

That says it all. In a nutshell it encapsulates what she did, why she did it and why the city of Liverpool and its people became one of the principle concentrated fall guys to ensure it worked. Some may think it acceptable. I never will.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 13:42:03 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.61)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Steve would have loved what's coming next, in response to Brien..

Separately, Al,if I remember, i think you are a socialist at heart. Do socialists believe in capital punishment for offending capitalists? Well if not, possibly scouse socialists do.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 13:01:43 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.61)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Kevin,i thought it was the ghost of Northern Nutjob that haunts these environs..


Entered at Wed Apr 10 12:22:32 CEST 2013 from (69.120.108.104)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Hi all...It seems in America Thatcher has been hailed far more here than in her own country. Woodrow Wilson's death found him hailed in Europe and very mixed here. I do enjoy reading the perspective of British citizens towards her though it seems a slanted more liberal viewpoint but interesting none-the-less. I do find the theme of keeping towns vibrant and government being somewhat responsible for making sure industry of some sort comes there intriguing. We do not have such a resounding sentiment for that here. It's not say it isn't tragic when it happens. Yet that is capitalism to some degree. The process of that philosophy has no distinct loyalty to a location and it isn't up to government to provide it either. If a major industry leaves the town, it isn't governments responsibility to prop the region up as to create something of a welfare state. Towns will literally die here. You can stay and die or wither away with it or you can move - not as easy as it sounds but that is the alternative. Now maybe because the size of the two countries is so different that the English view of that loyalty and responsibility of government is that way. The US government has enough spending issues as to not be able to afford or offer such overall assistance though it doesn't mean dying towns aren't somewhat subsidized by the government. Dying towns are a by product of the capitalist system - if money can't be made, you pack up shop. No one really owes you anything.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 11:38:54 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: British Political Institutions (for scrollers)

Al, some points at random. A LOT of local politics for those not interested, but there is a scroll bar.

The centre of the shopping area in Poole is called Falklands Square, and for years you couldn’t spit in the High Street without gobbing on a Royal Marine. By the way, doing so would be extremely inadvisable. The SBS is based here.

PARTIALITY

This is an inevitable issue in a two party system. For example, the legacy of Blair / Brown here in Poole was 170 primary school places short of demand. My daughter was offered a school eight miles away passing six others for her then four year old, with the sibling at five offered place at a different school three miles in the other direction. The same month we went to Cardiff for a concert and were gobsmacked by motorways lit all night on the Welsh side of the border and palatial and lavish facilities around the Welsh National Assembly for the local fatcats. Simply, Poole is one of the safest Conservative seats, South Wales the safest Labour. It’s swings and roundabouts, and years ago a post-war analysis showed that if you wanted the government to spend money on your area, you were best to be a marginal seat … shifting sides at each election. Hence the Midlands and Essex received the 1950s and 1960s investment. We’ve finally just got our Harbour bridge now the shift’s gone the other way. I think partiality in successive governments does Liverpool nor Poole much good. We're both taken for granted as safe seats.

INDUSTRY

It happened worse in some areas, but it happened everywhere. When I was a kid in Bournemouth, not usually perceived as an industrial area, nearly half the dads in the street worked at De Havilland building aircraft, and nearly half worked at Vickers doing the same (as did Mrs V’s dad). De Havilland’s mighty factories are now a housing estate. There’s a sliver of the industry left, but it’s pimping private jets for sheikhs.

PERSONALITIES

Do you think the equation of Derek Hatton with Liverpool set a collision course with Thatcher and therefore caused a negative bounce back? Hatton claimed to be a militant Trotskyist and was a prominent local politician. He was chucked out of the Labour party and stood trial for corruption, but was found not guilty. He became a wealthy property developer, as Trotskyists do. I know little about him, except physically he was the exact double of my fellow shop steward in the teacher’s union, and who was on the extremely militant end of militant (and also sharply dressed and partial to nice cars).

EBB & FLOW

Thatcher oversaw the decay of the North-East shipbuilding industry too, exporting one of our proudest industries to Germany and Japan. Where my mum was born in South Wales, last time I drove through, a few years ago, it was just streets of boarded up houses. She left when she was fifteen to skivvy in the hotels of Bournemouth, as did her sisters and female cousins. The men all stayed. Every country and area has an ebb and flow on industry and employment. In the 18th century, no doubt the small Lancashire, Cheshire and North Welsh towns were bemoaning the decay of their towns as all the young people moved to Liverpool. Yes, any caring government has to try and protect existing communities and attract new industry to replace old ones. But I don’t know how far you can ring fence it. Once you had a national electricity grid, there was no longer much reason to site industry on or near water power or coalfields, and as successive governments of both types failed to invest in railways … just go to Japan or France to see what should have been done … then industry was going to locate near the best points on motorways.

AGRICULTURE

I personally would take issue with Thatcher’s part in creating negative attitudes towards Europe, especially within her own party. Yes, Europe protects its agriculture with subsidies, but as French relatives and Italian colleagues have often explained to me, the very first line of defence for any country in the face of the future, is to be self-sufficient in food production. And Europe can only compete by subsidizing production. They’re right. Britain’s wrong.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 08:14:36 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Thatcher, Thatcher, The Milk Snatcher

Her influence was felt here in the election of noted fan, John Howard, who used many of her tactics to hold onto power. Now's really not the time for personal swipes at her; as an Australian, it made sense to let council dwellers buy their properties, although it created all kinds of problems. (the great australian dream is to own your own property - a stupidly small and parochial dream (if I may channel the ghost of the long lamented and sadly missed Steve).

As a political scientist, I can acknowledge Thatcher's good points: her unwavering commitment to her ideals (except when she compromised, but there was always a sense of these compromises being a detour, rather han a backflip); her charisma and charm, and her strength. when the bodies cold, I'll go through her faults.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 07:37:22 CEST 2013 from (24.114.25.237)

Posted by:

Kevin J

........and to the ghost of Anthony and the question of does any of this at the GB matter? The answer is divided......if you want a better take on sociopathic Iron Ladies.....the answer is yes.......if you want to know if Robbie is playing "Showdown At Big Sky".....the answer is maybe!


Entered at Wed Apr 10 06:49:44 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: I won't be there, so I vote no Garth!

Not really: I'm just stirring... :) Whatever decision is made is the one which suits everyone best. Let's just be grateful that the show is happening. (Even if I can't be there...)


Entered at Wed Apr 10 04:59:11 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Al Edge

AE - Thanks loads for those insights. It was pretty indirect to observe and understand from over here at that time -


Entered at Wed Apr 10 02:21:10 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: I guess we all have our reasons

I don’t give any thought to it these days. It was a long time ago. And to be honest I just don’t get the time with work and family/grandkids stuff. Even hearing of her death the widespread rejoicing of so many scarcely reached me. Then a phone call from my son started a trickle of memories as he reminded me of the songs I wrote back then. After putting down the phone and singing quietly them to myself I found myself welling up at the utter desperation that seamed through them.

I guess there are iconic figures throughout history who are simply able to invoke emotions within us that are more intense than we ever thought possible. As we know full well such emotions can be either of a positive or negative vein.

To many of us who lived through her tenure Margaret Thatcher was such a figure. For many of a right wing persuasion she was manna from heaven. For the likes of myself the accompanying emotions are entirely in the negative and inevitably wrapped in anger and contempt.

As most of us 'slightly more mature' :-0) Band fans on here know all know only too well memories sure tend to grow dim in these twilight years we are all now entering. And if we’ve got any to recall then we sure prefer the happier, rosier ones. Yet even now some 30 odd years on I shudder deeply within as I recall what that woman did to the community in which I lived back then. How she and her kind fiddled as we all burnt.

She did not simply rule over an era of high unemployment. We're all experiencing that now for goodness sake. No, that women oversaw the destruction of an entire city's economic lifeblood. And that city happened to be the thing I loved more than anything other than my own flesh and blood.

Liverpool was a city which had given so much to the country which that women professed to love and represent; to the very United kingdom about which she had rapsodied so eloquently in her maiden Premiership speech in parliament. The city had done so in so many rich and fruitful ways, always punching well above its weight.

In peacetime for sure such things can be readily overlooked and dismissed. Perhaps such contributions aren’t really that important in the overall scheme of things. Yet there are times when they are.

In wartime, as its docks and docklands were bombed to oblivion, its resilient natives somehow kept the rest of the country furnished and fed with all those everyday supplies from the USA and Canada upon which the rest of the country so depended to keep going. As its disproportionate legions of brave seamen perished in their many thousands to add woe to those perishing in more conventional armed service employ, from deep within its city centre basements was operated what Churchill himself termed the most crucial operation of the entire Second World War. The Battle of the Atlantic

Yet there we were under Churchill’s successor, scarcely more than a generation later, reading week after week the local paper bearing epitaths for one Liverpool factory after another. English Electric, Cammel Lairds, GEC, Massey Ferguson, Tate and Lyle, Bibby's, Plessy’s, Standard Triumph. A nigh endless litany causing not simply devastation of an entire industrial base but the inevitable accompanying downscaling of the city’s crucial dock heartland.

The obsession for a strong sterling, killing two birds with a single song - extinguishing exports to bring down inflation with huge unemployment from the resultant industrial decimation was never so parochially illustrated.

Scarcely a single one of my friends nor extended family went unaffected. I don’t say lightly that times were bad. Real hardship was wanton. More distressing than anything I guess was to see the last vestiges of self-esteem draining in so many otherwise hardworking souls who were having their pride ripped from them. Yet that was only the inception.

I think it was the mitigating response to all this that was generated from on high, pounced upon by bloodsucking media and adopted by so much of the rest of the country – particularly I guess ‘the South’ as Pete terms it - that cut deepest with me. The Thatcher invoked Tebbit slogan ‘Get on your bike’ merely scratched the surface but the underlying gospel was welcomingly clear to huge chunks of the rest of the country who did not wish to understand the reality of what was actually taking place in Liverpool. Workshy, militant, unemployable, chippy was the convenient labeling to accompany jobless figures that approached 80% across large chunks of the city. Worst of all was not only did it seem like those who weren’t affected didn’t give a fuck that an entire city was in very real danger of disintegration but that so many seemed to be actually relishing it.

Thirty years on, time has undoubtedly healed much of what went on back then. Life really does goes on. The city itself has had something of a renaissance and looks a million dollars if you ignore the Juicy Fruit sponsored paving flags in certain of its more youthful locations. But the hurt inflicted back then has not gone away. Scratch the surface like my son happened to do with me and the scars will show. Besides, the outward cosmetics still conceal an underlying reality. Dead end jobs and drug culture for huge younger swathes who never experienced Thatcher’s inhuman brutality directly but who nevertheless in many parts of the UK have had their lives scarred forever by the legacy Thatcher has bequeathed them.

I certainly do not countenance dancing on anybody’s grave and bear no ill will to her loved ones. But she was who she was and I feel not a solitary morsel of reservation to announce I’ll certainly be feeling just that bit better within my own self if the women’s memory is tarnished just one bit by a crappy song reaching number one in the same week she finally leaves us.


Entered at Wed Apr 10 00:03:55 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: More Garth

These are world class,experienced musicians.It would be hard to imagine that they couldn't find a way to find a place for Garth.And,Garth,would certainly have no problem fitting into to any musical situation.If there is a strong desire to have Garth I assume that EC,a huge Band fan,would do everything to find him a place with RR.EC must be aware and appreciative of the incredibly important role Garth plays in the history and music of The Band.To see RR and Garth together would be uniquely special at this point in their and their fans lives.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 23:49:28 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Although I liked Meryl Streep better than the real thing, Thatcher did buck her fellow travelers pretty hard when it came to global warming. I doubt that offsets her other traits.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 22:54:00 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: Maggie's Farm
Web: My link

Subject: (They) Can't Let Maggie Go

Whenever anyone mentions Mrs Thatcher, Mrs V comes straight in with “She wasn’t a REAL woman,” which is loaded. I agree on her lack of empathy with the poor and afflicted, and talking about the rigours of being a mother of twins when your husband was a millionaire in 1948 … you’d have to multiply that by twenty at least for today’s values … was never convincing. She was also a rare prime minister in not having any other women in the cabinet, and as I say in my “Iron Lady” review (linked), the Wilson government had two prominent women cabinet ministers.

I think it was good to give people the right to buy their own homes, but that Dunc is correct in suggesting the proceeds should have been spent on new housing stock.

I don’t think it’s true that she was wholly responsible for Britain’s lamentable bending over and presenting its rear end to the bankers. Indeed, we did, and it is a disaster, but Blair and Brown if anything are more culpable.

But there are positives. She was moved out before the Road to Basra incident. Was she right or wrong? She said they lacked the courage to finish it there and then. That would have eliminated the 2nd Gulf War and saved the lives of vast numbers of Saddam’s opponents who were abandoned in mid-revolt. Would it have been another ten years of bombs in the Bagdad marketplace on top of what we’ve had, but just earlier? Who knows? Anyway. It’s not just “We good. Maggie bad.”


Entered at Tue Apr 9 22:17:32 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

I'm with Ari. They can give Garth an accordion and just one song - as long as they give him the big welcome that is his due. And if the technology is going to be too difficult to sort out, skip the amp and mic as long as there's room for a chair.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 21:42:48 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Canada’s last great Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau……when leaving office, a smug ill prepared interviewer with leanings to the Right attempted a confrontational interview and citing a bunch of statistics showing – with merit – that the wealthiest among us and businesses had had their positions worsened while he was in office and therefore could his legacy from an economic point of view not be considered a failure…..……….he smiled and pointed out that from 1969 to 1984 the proportion of Canadians living in poverty had fallen from 25% to 10%......all depends on how you measure success he added…………….some leaders accept being elected means representing all of the citizens………..some leave 47% or more behind and never look back………………….

Just asking ….but when people like Pol Pot and Dick Cheney die……..is the rule on making sure the body is cold first - waived?


Entered at Tue Apr 9 21:21:18 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'd love to hear Garth with Robbie, but I feel you're overlooking the logistics of slotting in a third keyboard player, with all his own programs into a show where basically many guitarists are doing cameos. It requires a set house band.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 20:35:10 CEST 2013 from (70.192.86.219)

Posted by:

Ari

I know you don't want to give anything away Sebastian but were of those guesses even possible choices Robbie considered. Also Let him know that if he doesn't know already, certain folks have actually marked their calendar since the line up was announced counting down to his performance. I think this is the first time since I've been a band fan that Robbie is actually playing live. Wasn't aware in 2007 when he last played with Eric. Did Clapton have a say in song choice? Was he in favor of certain songs? Wish I had a ticket.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 20:29:59 CEST 2013 from (70.192.86.219)

Posted by:

Ari

Aw that's too bad. Just put Garth on guitar! I'm sure they don't have a house accordion player either. Dennis, I'm always very mindful of the people living there and them aware that their privacy needs to be respected. But that was the only time we had the chance to go, and also was just the perfect birthday present. We were there for very short amount of time maybe five minutes tops and very quiet. I understand they live there but I was next-door and not going was not an option. It's Big Pink.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 20:11:54 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: The Witch

Any friend of Ronald Reagan is no friend of mine.The named an airport after him and wanted to put him on a coin.

Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore, Flying monkeys indeed


Entered at Tue Apr 9 20:03:44 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Garth

It's a guitar thing. They already have a house band in place so that's not really an option. Would be really cool though.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 18:22:24 CEST 2013 from (31.53.17.33)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Lil

I've thought about KLJ a lot, Lil, and I remember perhaps making too personal posts related our family's fight against illness, which we won. I'm sorry he passed away.

I felt Margaret Thatcher had no compassion or empathy. She couldn't think what it would be like to be in the shoes of the poor. Remember she married a rich man. Also, she wasn't an advocate for the advancement of women and then she became arrogant and unlistening.

I feel greed became a dominant value in the country, with deregulation of financial services and the 'Loadsa Money' culture.

The mistake with council houses was that she should have taken the money and built new social housing. My criteria for judging a country, including the United Kingdom, is how it looks after its genuine poor.

But respect for a family's grieving won't let me go along with you, Al. But Yosser's haunting decline is an enduring image of the era. To have work is everything.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 18:17:21 CEST 2013 from (68.198.167.170)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Web: My link

Subject: Nashville Skyline

Wow Nashville Skyline was released 44 years ago! It sounds as fresh today as it did back then. Great record.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 18:12:23 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rodriguez

The more you find out about Rodriguez, the more the plot thickens. I hadn't seen Searching For Sugar man until last week, and as most people apparently do, immediately ordered both CDs (Cold Fact & Coming From Reality.)

They must have had great faith in him. The first album has members of the Detroit Symphony on it. They flew him to London for the second album in 1970. It's not until you read the fine print that you see Chris Spedding was on guitar and Ian Carr on percussion.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 17:22:32 CEST 2013 from (129.98.207.164)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Garth/RR

once again adding my voice to the chorous: PLEASE RR,ASK GARTH TO JOIN YOU AT CROSSROADS!!!


Entered at Tue Apr 9 16:43:10 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just to add, these Southern cities that expanded in manufacturing, predominantly vote Labour.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 16:38:50 CEST 2013 from (24.161.12.36)

Posted by:

Dennis

Location: West Saugerties

Subject: Big Pink

Ari, see you said you went to Big Pink at 1:30 a.m. the other evening.....'tis just my opinion, but that's not quite an appropriate hour to be sight-seeing in the neighborhood.

These are very nice and accomadating folks that currently own and occupy Big Pink. They're always good with folks who cruise by, but they also appreciate their privacy during inapropriate times such as what you've described.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 16:36:18 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Iron Filings

This may be of interest to Americans wondering what the feelings are here. Al, I’ve been pondering that one this morning as BBC Radio Two seemed to give over its airwaves to people venting furiously about Thatcher, while in contrast, the Daily Mail was demanding a state funeral and bemoaning the lack of a national holiday. Tony Blair, unsurprisingly, was first up to sing her praises yesterday and sounded a more convincing Tory than Cameron. Then they had a guy who described himself as a “Scottish socialist” and Kelvin MacKenzie, once editor of the Sun speaking on the show (I was driving around on errands all morning). The socialist gentleman announced that he had to tell people he wasn’t actually in the studio with McKenzie, because if he were he’d have physically attacked him. Had I been the DJ, I would have said “Let me stop you there. This is a radio debate, and if all you can do is bluster belligerently and threaten people, you’re not going to speak at all.” I loathe MacKenzie as much as the next person, and I never once voted for nor contemplated voting for Thatcher. But threatening to beat people up is childish macho posturing, and there is also such a thing is showing some respect for the recently dead.

The socialist gentleman opined that “every person in Scotland hated Thatcher and their lives were ruined by her.” The DJ asked, reasonably I thought, ‘Does that include the 500,000 Scots who then bought their own council houses as a result of her policy?’

In the end, anyone would have to admit that she was probably hated by the majority of people in South Wales, Liverpool, central Scotland. Here in the South, she was hated, I would venture to say, by a minority. i.e. more liked than disliked. Or rather, more respected than disliked. These are not older industrial or mining areas, and if you visit towns like Swindon and Reading (and Cardiff, though it’s in South Wales) you can see that some towns have boomed and expanded rapidly while others have declined. It is a divisive issue, and it’s easy to put North v South on it, but it’s the same in the USA as Detroit decays and manufacturing shifts south … BMW and Mercedes build a lot of cars in the Carolinas instead, just as Honda has something like three exits to itself off the main highway past Swindon.

She’s been out of office twenty-two years. She was an old lady with dementia. She survived the IRA, and I doubt you’ll get a Falkland Islander to speak ill of her. That’s why I think her political opponents were right in the main to be respectful. Maybe not as historical perspective, but there’s a time and a place for that, and it’s generally held that you let the body get cold first. So, this time, I won’t dig in for 69p.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 16:25:24 CEST 2013 from (184.144.109.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

With Every Kiss You Leave A Little Shadow of Doubt

Thank you Kevin John and Al Edge...I will have fun for sure. It will be a big dose....of something that doesn't have a name. My favourite guitarists will be the ones who are also songwriters at Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival...I may have to tune out when the shredders arrive...... ;-D

After the two shows I will only have John Fogerty on my bucket list. He's the whole package like Robbie except Robbie has a subtle sense of style I dig....Fogerty...Singer-songwriter, guitarist who sounds like he's from the south but from Cali.....and wears plaid shirts.

MP3'S included such as Levon's cover of "TMTTR" for those of you who don't have it.

LONG LIVE ROBBIE ROBERTSON

LONG LIVE GARTH HUDSON

LONG LIVE JAN HOIBERG

LONG LIVE THE BAND FANS


Entered at Tue Apr 9 15:49:24 CEST 2013 from (24.114.25.237)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Mother Knows Best

LINK: For Al E ............from a pretty good guitar player and songwriter........punk with great playing.........Enjoy and shed a few tears for all those that died long before she did....


Entered at Tue Apr 9 15:49:10 CEST 2013 from (184.144.109.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Opening day: Dawes just saying 'thanks' for Dylan gig

The critically acclaimed Dawes will kick off the show for music icon Bob Dylan
Wednesday in Lewiston.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 15:34:27 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Al E: Good to hear from you, even if on the demise of that great skirted sociopath. I have linked to an alternative version of the Ding-Dong song, a minor '60s hit by the Fifth Estate. If my recollection of the factoids in my first bible, "Flip's Guide to the Groovy Groups", is correct, bassist Schuyler Larsen (sp?) had been in an early group with Neil Diamond - so there's a Bandlink, once removed.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 15:23:00 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: yet another autobiography

The news of Ms. Funicello's passing coincides with a publicity blitz from her old boyfriend Paul Anka - Anka has a new "Duets" album (Sinatra, Tom Jones, Céline Dion, but also Leon Russell, Michael Jackson, Patti Labelle, Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton. Etc.) and an autobigraphy (_My Way_, with David Dalton).

The consensus on the book seems to be that it is remarkably candid and remarkably generous with salacious details -- including commentary about sometime Band landlord S. Davis, Jr.'s fondness for cocaine, porn, and willing partners of any persuasion.

Such honesty is a good policy for memoirators -- JRR take note.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 15:19:10 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Favour to ask all my esteemed GB'ers re Thatcher

Sorry to depart from the prevailing Robbiefest - hope everyone going has a great time btw - but may I just ask whether you great folks would mind parting with 69p and downloading from Amazon.Co.UK Judy Garland's "DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD".

The aim needless to say is for it to mark her passing with the most fitting number one single ever.

I'd usually find such things in poor taste - increasingly so as time goes on - but having lived amidst the bereft wilderness of the place she did most to bring to its knees by her unremitting war of attrition against the needy it would provide a glimmer of comfort if the week of her passing was marked by such a fitting event.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 15:06:25 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Re "Monkey's Uncle", this may have been the only time that Mike Love wasn't the worst singer on stage?


Entered at Tue Apr 9 14:28:35 CEST 2013 from (184.144.109.134)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Another female fan will now be at Eric Guitar's Festival! She works at a record company in NYC. I met her through Crabby. One time when we had lunch she brought her Big Pink purse made from the front and back of the album. She's going Friday night so will miss Robbie. She doesn't know that.....I didn't tell her either that Keith Richards will also be hangin' around. Thank you Sebastian.

Serenity...Icing on the cake would be if John Fogerty was at the Festival!!!!!! Bruce Cockburn is one of the best guitar pickers. It would have been extra special to have another Canadian up on stage....I would love to see Santana again......."Europa" and "Samba Pa Ti". Three and four more days to go!

SEBASTIAN...PLEASE HAVE YOUR DAD ASK GARTH HUDSON TO THIS GIG. IT MAY BE THE ONLY TIME WE CAN EXPERIENCE THE TWO REMAINING BAND MEMBERS. IT WOULD BE A GIFT TO THEMSELVES.....AND TO ALL BAND FANS. :-DD


Entered at Tue Apr 9 14:15:10 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Monkey's Uncle

Thanks, Pat. I'd never heard of that before. The Beach Boys were so carefully ranked in order of height with the white matching guitars. Mike Love's bending stance was there right back when … I thought it was the result of old age. I guess it was because Annette was so petite next to him. Great stuff.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 13:46:23 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ari

Ari. I just have to ask. The last I heard Big Pink has people living there. It has always been inhabited; on my visits there. My question? Did it weird out anyone that someone was outside their house at 1:30 in the morning? I must admit that my visits were always in the daytime.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 10:50:39 CEST 2013 from (24.239.82.100)

Posted by:

karen

Location: ytown,ohio

I'd give anything to have seen all of the guys live back in the day.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 10:45:23 CEST 2013 from (118.96.118.50)

Posted by:

Iconia PC Tablet dengan Windows 8

Location: Tanjung Priok
Web: My link

nice drop here..


Entered at Tue Apr 9 08:23:45 CEST 2013 from (66.65.92.140)

Posted by:

Ari

Thanks for the birthday wishes guys. I went to Big Pink at 1:30 am last night. That was the first time I'd been there at night.

I really wish I could go to see Robbie at MSG, I just don't have the money to do so. But for the record when Sebastian said two Band songs, the first two that popped up in my mind were The Shape I'm In and Up On Cripple Creek. Clapton plays Shape I'm In live anyways right? I agree that Straight Down The Line is gonna be the solo song. Honestly whatever is played is a blessing to me and can't wait to simply hear what they are. Really don't think I Shall Be Released is gonna be played, I'm not sure why that seems like a viable option, Robbie should be play a song he wrote since he's such a modest guitar player he should take advantage of the fact that he's the most colorful storyteller/songwriter in the line-up. It's impossible to outshine Derek Trucks in any scenario anyways. Isn't Jeff Beck gonna be there also? Robbie is the best at feel playing and that's what Up On Cripple Creek and Shape I'm In are all about. Guess he could do The Weight but that would be disappointing as live versions of that song without the original five members are pointless and a waste of time. My second guess would be King Harvest. Warren Haynes, My Morning Jacket, and countless others seem to love playing It Makes No Difference live, but that song shouldn't be done without Rick. My dream would be Jawbone or When You Awake. Sebastian tell Robbie to get Garth in on this! That would warm the hearts of every Band fan out there!


Entered at Tue Apr 9 07:00:25 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Paat B

Web: My link

For all the Annette fans.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 06:31:22 CEST 2013 from (146.171.254.97)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Between Trains

IMHO Between Trains is as much of a Band song as anything the 90s Band recorded. It just had a slightly different line up (Robbie, Richard, Garth instead of Rick, Levon and Garth). Just a pity nothing else came out of that session.


Entered at Tue Apr 9 05:37:10 CEST 2013 from (75.34.51.231)

Posted by:

Adam

Happy birthday Ari!


Entered at Mon Apr 8 22:36:04 CEST 2013 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Hey, what kind of people are you? Someone could have told me that 5 minutes were up.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 22:19:11 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D … Beach party movies!


Entered at Mon Apr 8 22:05:23 CEST 2013 from (67.84.78.216)

Posted by:

Bill C, (Friend0

Subject: On three.

Pat. Start counting. I'm going to go stand in the corner for 5 minutes. On three. One, two....


Entered at Mon Apr 8 21:32:32 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Jeff, that certainly was an interesting thread you started there. I'm sure everyone was interested to learn you fell for an (almost) April Fool's Day bit.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 21:22:51 CEST 2013 from (67.84.78.216)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Location: The Band GB Think Tank &Research Facility. On lunch break.

Subject: Shared Experience and Sharing.

I agree, it would be spectacular, wonderful and appropriate if RR shared the spotlight and asked Garth to particpate as a special featured guest in his Crossroads performance.



Entered at Mon Apr 8 21:08:56 CEST 2013 from (67.84.78.216)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Pat, don't ya think "Try" is such a flimsy word. To try, well, it doesn't indicate confidence.

I like to leave room for others to ccntribute. It's made a lot of threads more interesting.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 20:49:10 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Annette Funicello Has Died

Not an artist you would think to appear on these pages; but; Annette has died at the age of 70 of MS. She suffered terribly these last few years and this may be one time that the phrase, "she is now at peace and not suffering anymore" is apropos. She was my first crush. R.I.P. Annette.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 20:24:30 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Now's The Time

It's a golden opportunity. Robbie rarely performs live. Garth is just a short trip away from MSG. What better time for the two former Bandmates to reunite for a performance together than at major event hosted by one of The Band's biggest fans?


Entered at Mon Apr 8 20:20:24 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Robbie at Crossroads

Fun to speculate on RR's setlist, though I am far from clairvoyant. Straight Down the Line would be my fave choice for an opener, but with the clues we have, not sure I can let go of both The Weight and Released. (And I love the idea of Between Trains, but it can't count as a Band song, right?) Here then are my guesses:

Fear of Falling -- a logical "new song" duet for Robbie and Eric, with a chance to trade some nice guitar parts;

King Harvest -- I think Robbie could do a lot with his very different vocal approach on it -- and the guitar solo at the end would make even the talking-through-the-whole-set-beer-swillers at MSG take notice;

The Weight -- because it's The Weight, end of story.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 19:45:52 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Between Trains features Garth prominently. Hmmm. Showdown at Big Sky is a guitar tune. Hmmmm. Shake This Town features Garth prominently. Hmmmmm. Clapton played Chest Fever with the OQ in Buffalo '74. Hmmmmm.

Ari, Levon's playing on the Syria Mosque boot is superb. On Unfaithful Servant he sounds like a jazz drummer. And listen to the little figure Richard adds when Garth steps out for his sax solo but before he starts blowing.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 19:35:23 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Jeff, try researching before you post.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 19:22:31 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

I agree John, an appearance by Garth is an excellent idea. Wish Robbie would make it happen :-)

My wish list would include Robbie & Eric dueting on "Between Trains" at Crossroads.

More sad news -- the recording engineer & producer Andy Johns, younger brother of Glyn, passed away yesterday.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 19:19:05 CEST 2013 from (63.88.115.195)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Sebastian / Crossroads

Sorry - a little tate to the discussion. How about Between Trains.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 19:02:07 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I liked it John … just haven't checked in since earlier today. Chris Stainton & Paul Carrack? Two British guys on keyboards, then. I must have seen Chris Stainton several times, first time would have been 1966 as Joe Cocker was always the local support band around then in Yorkshire.

David … if only one of Kevin's was right, and it IS Straight Down The line (and it's a good point you made about support vocal) then we're looking for TWO Band numbers but excluding I Shall Be Released & The Weight.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 18:56:06 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

John D….In the great minds think alike category, I suggested the same here yesterday and a few days ago……..Sebastian didn’t say no to either one…..he didn’t say yes either…….


Entered at Mon Apr 8 18:48:59 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

I see no one likes my Garth idea. Well.....I try.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 18:33:19 CEST 2013 from (67.84.78.216)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: What if God was one of us? Mega Pastor got the blues.And the gelt.

Link above Subject line references to Pastor's quote in paragraph 6. 50 million later, he loses faith.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 18:18:05 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, at least we can say Pop Staples oversaw some pop staples, although coming up with a third phrase about popping staples is entirely too strenuous.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 18:13:15 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Too bad that they aren't synonymous, pop staples and Pops Staples, though for a brief flicker in early '70s it looked like they might be, what with the success of "Respect Yourself" and "I'll Take You There".


Entered at Mon Apr 8 18:03:32 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: That's what she said?

The following correction, regarding a March 24 article on preparing a holiday feast, was printed in yesterday's New York Times Magazine:

"...an accompanying feature transcribed incorrectly a comment from Callie Khouri, creator of the television drama 'Nashville,' about what she would put on her Easter playlist. Khouri said she would include music by Pops Staples, the late patriarch of the singing family the Staple Singers. She did not say she would include 'pop staples.'" [which is what the magazine originally printed :-)]

Judging from Sebastian's comments, it sounds as if Robbie will be performing with Eric Clapton and his band at the Crossroads Festival. That band currently features Doyle Bramhill II on guitar, Willie Weeks on bass, Levon's old friend Steve Jordan on drums, Chris Stainton & Paul Carrack on keyboards, Greg Leisz on pedal steel and Michelle John & Sharon White backing vocals. As Robert Randolph (who guested on "How To Become Clairvoyant) is also a featured performer, I'm guessing that "Straight Down The Line" will be one of Robbie's choices. Mr. Randolph previously performed the song with Robbie when he played with The Roots on the Jimmy Fallon show a while back.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 17:02:31 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

dlew: She was more socio than psycho, I'd say.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 16:55:34 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINK: Eric Clapton performing "The Weight" with Robbie, Rick and Garth. Love this one!


Entered at Mon Apr 8 16:32:53 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you Sebastian. This is fun and appreciate your discussing Axman with Robbie……………….I would really also like to see a limited tour of select cities – Toronto, New York. LA and London (UK) where we could really have some fun on song selection and special guests........Perhaps to coincide with the Bio launch........though maybe a good idea to delay that as I was in HMV recently and there were more rock star bios than CD's in the place!


Entered at Mon Apr 8 16:25:01 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Margaret Thatcher has died...

UK people will have heard this.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 15:50:55 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Drum Solo

Anybody that saw the Hawks know if Levon took a solo as a part of their nightclub act?


Entered at Mon Apr 8 15:49:46 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Garth at Crossroads???

This is just a thought. I see Booker T will be on the show and that's great; but wouldn't it be wonderful for Clapton to book Garth for the Robertson set. Now that would be something!!!


Entered at Mon Apr 8 15:46:21 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Sebastian, thanks for telling us about the letters home to First Avenue. I especially like the bit about our guys specifying which kinds of pop they want with dinner, as if alcohol has yet to be encountered on the road.

Peter V: "Out Of The Blue" too laid back for a gig with Clapton - a man willing to turn his own magnificent "Layla" into a dirge?

Who needs movies when you can come here for all the psychopathy you could possibly need?


Entered at Mon Apr 8 14:27:18 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: happy birthday Ari!

Have a good one.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 12:28:03 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Speculating

A lot depends on the band on the day at Crossroads. I'd guess no horn section?

I'm still going for He Don't Live Here No More and I Shall Be Released, because a lyricist will think about the theme and intent (though it's true most don't). If only one of Kevin's is right, my guess is that knocks out Straight Down The Line, because if there are two Band songs, one is surely going to be either The Weight or I Shall Be Released … but it can't be both if only one is right. The other reason for going for I Shall Be Released is it was done at Agrigento.

That makes it hard to guess. Life Is A Carnival had struck me (because Robbie did it with the Wild Unspellables), but if there's no horn section that's not going to be it.

Eric Clapton has repeated his deep admiration for MFBP and The Band in two interviews this month. That makes me think "early Band". I'm leaning towards To Kingdom Come, if only because Robbie sang it originally AND it was the title of the earlier compilation. But I thought the earlier suggestion of Out of The Blue was interesting … but maybe a bit laid back.

An aside on When The Night Was Young. An old friend from forty years ago called to say she was visiting the area for a meeting, and we met for a drink. She said she still had the first two Band albums and "Best Of" but had lost interest with Stage Fright, though didn't really know why. My car was outside the pub, and I said "You have to listen to this then" and put on "When The Night Was Young' which was in the CD player. Result: totally knocked out with it and off to buy it. So I wish that was the solo one, but I don't think it'd fit the guitar legends bit.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 08:39:47 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Broken Arrow

That's a shame about Broken Arrow Sebastian. One of my favourite RR songs.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 06:44:03 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Kevin

I met up with my dad a couple days ago and we discussed Axman as promised. He said he had considered it but concluded it would be too obscure and he decided against it. I can tell you this Kevin... one of your guesses is correct. Cheers. Oh, and the second solo song was dropped because Clapton and his band didn't feel that they could properly perform, Broken Arrow :)


Entered at Mon Apr 8 06:18:50 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.239)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Robbie - MSG

Oh no.........I liked the balance as suggested before of two solo and one Band.......but while we are guessing and since we are dealing now with one solo and two Band........I would think Likely Set set will be "Straight Down The Line", "The Weight" and "I Shall be Released" .....................Dream Set "Shake This Town", "Showdown At Big Sky", "Chest Fever - with Garth".............and of course since I have only been successful once in my life in having a DJ play a song ( it was the fabulous Claude Rogette of Chom FM in Montreal while staying with my Sister and hearing the new RR album had been released in 1987.......he answered the phone and in his broken English said "oh yes, this is a very intereeeeeeeting album.....give me a few minutes and I will play the new single "Showdown At Big Sky"......he introduced it by saying he had just talked to this big Robbie Robertson fan....Kevin........which was nice but the truth was we had talked about The Band.......people now forget that the Band were so far off the radar in 1987................anyhow, too many words to explain that if Sebastian did text his Dad about "Axman" and if he does play it........a few backflips will be in order!

Ari: While at Big Pink..........if you see two odd looking characters hanging in any of the trees or bushes with motorized trimming machines........run as fast as you can.......their names will likely be Adam and Billy - and the shit is about to hit the fan!


Entered at Mon Apr 8 05:34:29 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Brown Eyed Girl

Yes, my grandman used to cook for the boys when she lived on 1st Street. In fact i have several letters that she kept that levon, rick, richard, garth and my dad of course would send her from the road where they would request their favorite meals and soda pop be waiting when they got back.

As far as Crossroads the set list has changed slightly. My dad is now doing 1 solo and 2 Band songs... Any more guesses?


Entered at Mon Apr 8 05:03:50 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: WOW!!

Hi, all you great posters...The reading and links have been overwhelming to say the least. Not finished with many as yet. Thanx to all...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Link is to performers who will be at the Eric Claptons' "Crossroads" festival...

BEG: Have a good time.. Hope all goes well on your trip. You lucky gal...

John Fogerty was a presenter on the ACM's Tonight. Beautiful blue plaid shirt..

It was so nice to see one of my faves, George Strait again. Heard it was his last time for touring...

If you like C/M this was the place to be.. Great performers. Even had Stevie Wonder on, which was nice.He mentioned some of the great jazz artists in his music, which was a surprise..Seeing Shania Twain was great too... Dick Clark was honored too.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Have a good night CYA soon xoxoxo


Entered at Mon Apr 8 01:08:06 CEST 2013 from (70.192.75.49)

Posted by:

Ari

On a film shoot outside big pink! Just thought y'all should know that. I think this is my fifth time here and it's always magical. Can't believe my luck though, the filmmaker Did not do that deliberately.


Entered at Mon Apr 8 00:05:43 CEST 2013 from (101.119.14.149)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Vale knocking lost John.

I remember him. Terrible shame. Thanks angelina.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 19:59:57 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Location: South of where The Girl From The North Country lived.

Subject: Walken

I saw "Seven Psychopaths". Didn't see the other. Thanks as always Jerry.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 19:46:17 CEST 2013 from (96.20.158.81)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Thanks JT for reminding me of "Seven Psychopaths". I saw and enjoyed that movie, especially Christopher Walken and Woody Harrelson. I remember saying when we left the theatre that it seemd the sort of movie had Quentin Tarantino teamed up with the Coen brothers.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 18:33:30 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Yes, Adam, learn to admit you are wrong and take your punishment when so admonished. Keep that snickering down, young man. And you and your friends stay off my lawn. What? Why I oughta....


Entered at Sun Apr 7 18:10:38 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

John D: Thanks for the recommendation. We downloaded "A Late Quartet" and will watch later today or tomorrow. We are fans of Walken and Hoffman. Watch '7 Psychopaths' and 'The Master". Both are very good.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 17:24:06 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Dylan 2013 live

I just listened to a streaming of Dylan at Amherst. Things have changed. The band is subtle and supportive with Dylan's voice front and centre. He has taken a page from Leonard Cohen and has applied a similar approach. His lyrics are clear and the songs are presented with care and love. It is a very different show form the ones I saw last year. Duke Robillard has added a dimension to the band that is welcomed. So early in the series, this is not the cacophony I heard in Vancouver that was remedied by the time they hit Toronto. The band and Dylan were ready at the outset and this is a welcome set. I read that Dawes provide an excellent opening and that they are 'honored ot be on the same stage". Nice all round.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 17:02:12 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Classical Movies

Well, I've seen Peter discuss Mozart & Bach. How about Beethoven? Watched Seymour Hoffman & Christopher Walken last night; in the film "A Last Quartet." What a beautiful film; with a magnificent soundtrack that I immediately downloaded; from iTunes. The interaction between all four members of the quartet and the daughter of two of them is something to observe. Cinematography is beautiful.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 13:16:49 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.198)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Pete, to be wrong sometimes is a-ok. There is a humanity to it. Error, slip,it doesn't matter. And here, it turned into a good joke too.

Adam, you really are much too sensitive. Toughen up a little. If you think you hurt my feelings by calling me a few a names, you are wrong.

It would not hurt you to know how to admit when you are wrong, or to laugh things off.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 10:10:01 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The genius of Mozart was proven once and for all on his composition of The Brandenburg Concertos at the age of two in 1721. Bach took credit, but later research showed that Bach had merely pushed Mozart's perambulator down to the library to research it.

Only joking, I do know the difference between an "error" and a "slip."


Entered at Sun Apr 7 10:05:32 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Lil, for the sad news about KLJ. I thought about KLJ's last posts the other day when Iain Banks announced publicly that he was incurable.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 05:38:24 CEST 2013 from (24.105.216.125)

Posted by:

Lil

I was just looking through some very old e-mails, and I came across several from a former poster that used the name KLJ (Knockin Lost John). As I read the e-mails, I wondered if he was still ok, as he was sick for so long. Unfortunately, after doing a little research, I just found out that he died in March 2012. His name was John Swaney for those that remember him, and if my memory serves.. he was a musician and I think played banjo. He was a nice man. May he rest in peace.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 03:38:07 CEST 2013 from (99.141.57.87)

Posted by:

Adam

In the interest of Jan Hoiberg's amazing site and hard work, and the fine posters here at the GB, I am closing the issue.

I take it as a badge of honor that, along with the best GB posters/veterans like Pat B and Peter V, I now have my very own troll whose goal is to criticize my contributions and make himself feel better.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 00:54:22 CEST 2013 from (99.141.57.87)

Posted by:

Adam

I was the source for the updated, complete 18 track "Syria Mosque 1970" concert recording. It is the only document, along with the 4 video tracks, of the Dutch TV recording of that show.

"Billy C"/"Friend 0"/"Jeffy"/Whatever - Leave it alone and drop it. Do you have nothing better to do than pull up quotes from other people from your rolodex? I love all the Band fans here, but you are just a jerk.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 00:34:03 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Apples and Oranges

Apples and Oranges. Nothing to compare to the real thing. Not worthy of the question. Its settled.


Entered at Sun Apr 7 00:27:44 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.198)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Who wouldn't be interested?

Pat, i think everyone who bothers visitng the Gb loves listening to quality live Band peformances. This is something beyond ocmpare to most anything. Well, maybe Mozart leading the Brandenburg Concertos shortly after he composed them, that might be on the same level...but very few things are...

Really, who wouldn't be interested in hearing that? Maybe some posters would say: The question always comes into mind: would you rather attend a 1970 Band concert at the Syria Mosque, or catch this amazing lineup with the legendary Garth Hudson, playing material that hasn't been seen onstage since 1971 or earlier (in many cases, never).


Entered at Sat Apr 6 21:22:58 CEST 2013 from (70.192.87.15)

Posted by:

Ari

I'm glad somebody brought up the Syria Mosque recordings. I've downloaded all the songs from that night and have really enjoyed listening to Levon's drums. For some reason they Microphoned the hell out of his drums that night and they must've just been tuned in the perfect Levon Pop-pop way. Hes really sizzlin that night, especially on Cripple Creek. sounds like Conways's old drummer from the 50s. You can really hear what Levon is doing here.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 21:03:02 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

For those of you interested in what The Band sounded like in 1970.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 20:15:54 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Masked Marauders revisited; A Time of Hope

Joan: I recall the hoax of Masked Marauders very well and I have the album (as probably do many others here). It was a time of hope when supergroups abounded and combinations and permutations of performers was becoming a phenomenon. Such a combination as Masked Marauders was not out of the question given what was going on at the time and so Greil Marcus and the others 'got us' because we were 'easily gotten'. An interesting time in music, that was.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 20:05:28 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Masked Marauders

The attached is from Brian Williams Rock Center. It's about the Mythical super group. Hope the Link works.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 18:38:29 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Buffalo Dylan

From Buffalo News review..very positive review, with emphasis on the welcome newer material and Dylan's positive approach to the show.. "A very strong Dylan show, then. The addition of Robillard has livened things up a bit, even if the departed Charlie Sexton was surely missed. The set was smartly paced, and Dylan’s sometimes exuberant manner carried things along at a nice clip. It’s hard to imagine what the many twentysomethings and UB students in attendance made of this living legend. They were treated to an above-average Dylan show, though, even if they didn’t have anything to compare it to in their own experience. And, the never-ending tour rolls ever onward. ..."


Entered at Sat Apr 6 16:40:32 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.220)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINK: Chet Atkins & Vince Gill..............a very light moment but always stay on your toes when sitting with a master! Actually, as I mentioned yesterday, it was Chet Atkins and his praise for Vince Gill that got my attention many years back......this bit was funny though but eerily reminiscent for some of us I am sure!


Entered at Sat Apr 6 16:26:17 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: John Mayer

Leave the gossip and news crap behind... it is irrelevant.. John Mayer can play guitar.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 16:22:47 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.220)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks John........and JT, I am glad to see the changes to the set list as I been calling for this sort of thing for years now......Love &'Theft forward is all he really should do..........Is there a person out there that really wants to hear HIgh61 again.......Perhaps he picked up on how well Mark Knophler went over and just how flat the one DS song a night sounded on that last tour........The Dawes really are ticking the boxes as well aren't they? Robbie, Levon, Dylan.......


Entered at Sat Apr 6 16:23:06 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Vince Gill

His performance at the first Crossroads event demonstrated his fine playing. He had a cracker-jack band too. He did his own song Sweet Thing - nothing at all like Van's - it's pretty unsweet, clever and dirty. A truly rousing performance all in!


Entered at Sat Apr 6 16:05:16 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Vince Gill

He is known as an astounding guitar player. When I was doing country radio in the early 80's I ended up going to a Blue Jays game; with him thanks to the promo guy at RCA.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 16:01:07 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Memory

Man I'm losin' it Angelina. Whatever happened to Cobi? I went to school with her Father.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 15:56:35 CEST 2013 from (65.95.180.200)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I love this photo of Levon jumping up in the air with the Reformed Band.

Hey John D. What a day listening to The Band in Pittsburgh at the Syrian Mosque......and seeing two blue jays on my patio. I only see them in the country but here they were today!!!

Btw, we've met twice but I've seen you four times. I met you the first time at Hugh's Room for Garth and Eric Andersen's show. Second time was at the Horseshoe Tavern for BARK where I also met your son. Third time I saw you there again for Ollabelle's show...Cobi was there too. And.....I saw you MC for......yikes......I'm having a baby senior moment here.....It was at Nathan Phillips.....We were also both at Mavis Staples' show there too.....

Oh and....John Mayer is pretty good for a younger musician who likes to play the blues and Urban has a lovely aura about him. I'm aware of Vince Gill being a country musician but not familiar with his work. I think he's married to Amy Grant? I guess Keb Mo won't be singing "Angelina". :-D
It's all good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring it all on!!!!!!!!

Off to the Health Show today....Gotta keep my energy up as I'm in a NYC state of mind........for ROBBIE ROBERTSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Entered at Sat Apr 6 15:56:18 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Hugh's Room

I'll be on the west coast and will unfortunately miss this. BEG, John D, Bill M and others... report back... I'm sure you will. I just looked at Hugh's Room listing of events.. its a good April and May. Enjoy.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 15:43:43 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Hugh's Room

Thank you BEG; but we already have a table. I'll look for you; even though I only met you once. If your with Bill M I'll easily find you.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 15:35:47 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Jed: Just to be clear, that was not criticism. It was just information. Personally, I welcome the evolution and the presentation of newer music. I like this mix and I hope that less often played material will be played. (even stuff he rarely plays). The real committed of the 60s want to hear (Sad Eyed..Lowlands, Neighbourhood Bully, From a Buick 6 and many more that never get played). Yes, though, you are correct. Some will bitch because that's what they do. I want evolution and mutation from the routine! And ya, it would be nice to see Duke get what Charlie got in the previous shows.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 14:53:06 CEST 2013 from (65.95.180.200)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thanks Joan and Jed.
I don't even have an iPhone or smart phone so I won't be reporting back.
Maybe Ari can report back to all of you. I no longer have your email Jon L. I lost a lot of addies when my computer was hacked.

John D...You're welcome to join our table with five of us so far and maybe Bill M will be joining us too.
Table is reserved under Northern Girl's and Northern Boys' name for the Weber Brothers' Tribute to Levon Helm.

Woooooow! Full downloads of many The Band boots including Tombstone The Lost Album (already had it downloaded), Levon and Rick show in Portland, The Band at Roosevelt Stadium (have that one) and The Band at Woodstock (used to have it on VHS, but here it's the full set) and.......

01 Up On Cripple Creek
02 The W.S. Walcott Medicine Show
03 King Harvest Has Surely Come
04 Unfaithful Servant
05 We Can Talk
06 Look Out Cleveland
07 The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
08 The Shape I'm In
09 Time To Kill
10 The Weight
11 I Shall Be Released
12 Stage Fright
13 Strawberry Wine
14 Rockin' Chair
15 This Wheels On Fire
16 The Rumor

DOWNLOAD - The Band - 1970-11-01 - Syria Mosque - Pittsburgh, PA


Entered at Sat Apr 6 14:44:43 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Dylan Setlist

Soon the Dylan experts will criticize the setlist for not including enough old material and then the the voice griping wil start.Ah,the predictable wave of chatter that accompanies every tour! Wonder if ole Bob let Duke have a moment in the light?


Entered at Sat Apr 6 14:15:47 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: THINGS HAVE CHANGED

BOB DYLAN played his first of his recent series of concerts last night. Only 3 songs from the 60s (VOJ, H61R, BOATM) and the majority more current, including a number from TEMPEST. He opened with "Things Have Changed". They certainly have. (no LARS!).


Entered at Sat Apr 6 13:17:53 CEST 2013 from (118.96.118.50)

Posted by:

sigit

Location: Indonesia
Web: My link

nice sites glad drop here.. i will come back soon.. http://sigithermawan12.blogspot.com/2013/04/penting-panas-perlu-dan-seruu.html


Entered at Sat Apr 6 05:17:44 CEST 2013 from (67.84.77.23)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Well then Pat, thank you for helping me rule him out. Back to that later. that is important. And in that regard, this is a worthwhile conversation. The rest of it, we both could do without.

But, as long as we fell back into it, you raise a good point. Ten years ago, 11 , years ago, you and I had the same argument. And 11 years ago you were insisting that digital sounded as good as tape.You are fully digital close to two decades, no? So, did it really start sounding as good as tape to you prior to 11 years ago, 11 years ago, or in the last 8 years?

Now this guys said something else, nothing to do with a specific resoultion. He said “nothing sounds as good as tape.”.

You say he doesn’t run the highest res, I wouldn’t argue with you,. Even I , who don’t pay a lot of attention to this, thought it should be 48bit? , not 24, but what do I know..I’ve been in some high end studios, name places, where they’ve said they have the most current protools, and I thought the session didn’t sound great on playback. I go by my ears. In conversations,, engineers usually give up they like the sound of tape better, but work in protools for……………..a long list of reason I gave weeks ago. No need to rehash it.

But thanks for pointing out this today. I t also reminds me to stick with people I already know, like, and trust. Possibly i got the res wrong, but i doubt that. i asked him does he have the most current protools set up, he said yes, and "I usually run 882/24." Sounded odd. Numbbrwise too. Maybe the "I usually.... " was for a reason.

Now on the other hand, i also spoke with old friends today,. engineers/studio owners i worked with a lot years ago, who still run both tape and protols HD, and also say the have the most modern protools and these guys would never lie to anyone. They are good, honest guys, with a pool of 6 or 7 other engineers they pull from too, and very ensconsed in the oligarchy of NYC music and audio/video business, high end repetitive work that pays the bills.

I asked em which they prefer now. tape or protootls./ .Now 12 years ago when i recorded there these guys were working mostly in protools already, but freely admitted tape sounded better then. and we ran tape. Today, they still prefer the sound of tape. but that was nothing worth reporting, because it was not a surprise. But when the other guy, who i never knew before, came out with a hearty “nothing sounds as good as tape” I thought it was hysterical. Room is gorgeous, name clients,the rate was low.$1,000.00 bucks for ten hours, including him, 100 bucks an hour after that. In the burbs, 60 minutes outside the city at the most. Half, or less than half what a great studio and engineer will cost in manhattan.

That's okay, I’m probably back to tape.And herding cats to fit the schedule at a studio i trust, etc.



Entered at Sat Apr 6 03:16:26 CEST 2013 from (67.84.77.23)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Urban also knows how to pick em.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 02:51:44 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

An 882 I/O? That's worth about $50 since it's almost a decade old. Things have changed since then. Nice piano though.


Entered at Sat Apr 6 01:44:16 CEST 2013 from (67.84.77.23)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Oh how i wish the entire Gb could have been listening to a conversation i had about 3 hours ago. I'm looking at some studios i have not worked in before, and also studios i have. Because, when it comes down to it, when all the players are available is as big a factor as when the studio is available. Aside from liking and being comnfortable with the studio and th eengineer, i may have to choose between two or three based on availability jiving with the players on the session. So I'm reccoed to one that i never worked in.Guy has a great track reocrd, awards, a gorgoeus room that is said to have a great sound, and a 9' steinway.. Now i know he is stricgtly protools, works in 882 24 bit resolutoion, but i;m considering him anyway. I told him this would be the first time i record a session digitally. Totally unprompted he says , Well, i gave up tape a while ago. Nothing souds as good, but I had enough of the aggravation. We get it done in protools, and it's less,,,,,,,,,,, ( long list of this , that , and the other thing)..... I was smiling inside.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 22:29:51 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Mavis Staples

Saw Mavis Staples opening for Wilco last night. She did a great version of "The Weight" and yelled out "Levon Helm" twice after the song finsihed. That got a surprisingly good reception - I thought I heard someone down the back yell out "Robbie Robertson" but I couldn't be sure. It got me thinking about the earlier discussion about "tribute" Bands. I'm a little sceptical about them but it was great to see a participant in The Last Waltz paying homeage to THe Band.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 22:15:54 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: handicapping the crossroads

1) clairvoyant: Agree that 'Axman' is the obvious choice for a guitar-oriented festival . . . but Sebastian (thanks for stoking this discussion) has ruled it out of bounds . . . 'Straight Down the Line' seems the next-most-obvious for its similar references to musical hero(ine)s, and because it's been successfully field-tested. My favorite is 'Clairvoyant' -- great writing, lots of humour, very JRR-esque in sense and sound. But I'm taking the long odds and going with 'Madame X' -- pretty, a set pace-changer, and you can imagine JRR, Clapton (and Beck?) jamming on it (yeah, I know, 'we don't jam.')

2) solo: if you're not doing 'Axman,' you could do 'Go Back to Your Woods' (they both have the 'one-eyed jacks, king with the ax.') Just to mix it up, I'd like to hear 'Going to the River' (from a Fats Domino tribute record) -- but I'm voting for 'Broken Arrow.'

3) The Band: within the 'addictions' theme, 'Strawberry Wine' would be a nice nod to Levon (and maybe help the estate of). But Crossroads song choices to date haven't been in any way thematic that I can see -- with the exception of DVD 1, track 1: 'Cocaine.' I'd best like to see 'Ophelia' cause I just love JRR's playing on that one. Just to be perverse and contradict myself on the thematic bit, I'm voting for 'Forbidden Fruit.'

By the way, we caught Booker T & band last summer, and he played guitar for about half the performance - nothing virtuoso, as I recall, but entirely competent.

Also by the way, and to be perverse again, note that Sebastian said JRR would not be playing _one_ of Kevin J's "likely" list -- which could mean Kevin J was 2/3 correct . . . .


Entered at Fri Apr 5 22:13:08 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Jan, one thing is for sure, your son is a monster. Those are just terrific tracks he has on Soundcloud.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 21:23:48 CEST 2013 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Damn that 6 horse!

Ear candy for the day: "I'm Mandy, Fly Me" by 10cc.

If I don't check in later, have a good weekend everybody.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 21:10:36 CEST 2013 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

And now for something completely different (although he is doing the Danko shuffle on stage)


Entered at Fri Apr 5 20:56:37 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

JohnD

Subject: Kevin

No problem Kevin. I didn't think you rude whatsoever. Where's Lonnie Mack when you need him? Smiley face.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 20:11:03 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Urban/Mayer

Urban is shredder,a modern country poser.He ain't no Waylon,Willie or Merle!But,he's got a beautiful collection of axes.Mayer,in the words of Derek Trucks(a standup classy guy),is a "real tool".But,while his material sucks he's a pretty decent blues player.He did an admirable job at Love for Levon.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 20:04:02 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Sorry John……didn’t mean to be rude……jumbling a few thoughts and I don’t like the songs of either of those two actually but Urban really is an accomplished player.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 19:59:12 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

I'm not sure I saw the Last Waltz that Roger Ebert saw.

My definition of "old Age" ls anyone 10 years older than me. That used to be my definition of Middle age but , alas time has caught up with me.

BEG I wait your review,

Does anyone know if the Crossroads Fest will be streamed live? They did that a few years ago,


Entered at Fri Apr 5 19:55:15 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

JohnD

Subject: Kevin

I didn't say anything about song lists. Just guitar ability. You have pointed out he's really good; so that's good enough for me.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 19:47:24 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Peter V: I don’t disagree on your thoughts about the relevance of lyrics but would you not agree that “Straight Down The Line” is the much better song. ‘He Don’t Live Here” did grow on me a bit and at high volume in the car I never skip it.......but ‘Straight Down The Line” is a great song in my opinion……..I really like Axman as well.

Keith Urban can really play….This is about guitar not favorite song lists....The other guy can as well though he still has a lot to learn - a lot.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 19:18:00 CEST 2013 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Sorry kids. Busy at work plus it happens to be opening day of the spring meet at Keeneland. I guess only myself and perhaps Abby (hello darling, I know you're lurking!) would know that.

Anyway, Bill I never saw nor heard of them. In that era, listening to live music took a back seat to trawling for nubile young women with a taste for the bizarre.

Sorry Peter, I can't set the odds as I have been changing my list as I think of things. I figure they would do a Band song such as "The Weight" perhaps as a closer cum singalong. I was rooting for "Out Of The Blue" at first. Then I factored in that his vocals on that one, while great on record, would not come off good at MSG. I really couldn't care less what songs he chooses. I would however like to see him sink his teeth into a good blues track.

Abby, I recommend # 3 Scatman in the 5th.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 19:14:21 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Just my opinion

Looking at the list for Clapton's MSG shows. It is GUITAR driven. I don't see why John Mayer; or Keith Urban are there. Maybe I'm missing something

Booker T? Not a guitar player; but hey! It's Booker T. I think he'll add to any rhythm section. I would have added Steve Cropper to play with him. Maybe that's too obvious.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 18:19:21 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Heaven's Gate

Dexy: thanks for the link to the Jeff Bridges interview . . . see [My link] for a review of the (very thoroughly) remastered _Heaven's Gate_, a "3-hour-and- 36-minute _final_ final cut."


Entered at Fri Apr 5 18:13:58 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

We should start running a book. Where's Landmark? I reckon that you have to look at the serious fund-raising aspect, and what they're raising funds for … to help addiction and it would be good to reflect that in the choice of lyrics. Hence my Clairvoyant & Band choices. The middle solo? I guess any one of three from Storyville. We need a prize though.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 18:12:21 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Perhaps Roger Ebert read Levon's book before he commented.

BEG, yeah, and 90 is the new dead.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 17:33:29 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno
Web: My link

BEG: You mentioned in an earlier post which comedians your friend went to school with; I'm not sure, but I think they were Martin Short and Eugene Levy. I recently 'inherited' my parents' copy of the Godspell program from the early '70s. The (Toronto) cast included both Short and Levy, along with Gilda Radner and Andrea Martin. The four-piece band was led by Paul Shaffer and also included Gene Martynec, who was in Kensington Market, produced all of the early Bruce Cockburn albums and played on Lou Reed's Berlin. On drums with jazz drummer Clayton Johnson, who was in the way-out-there Montreal-based Young Ones in the late '60s - see link. If you remember the second episode of the Yonge Street documentary, Young Ones leader Duke Edwards was the guy who told the funny story about coming to town and asking for directions to the 'black' area of town. Martin Short's brother Mike was Ronnie Hawkins' piano player the time when Levon Helm, Dr John and other RCO All-Stars got up to jam in '77 (or was it '78?).

Landmark: Did you ever see these guys? I remember being in Montreal in the mid '80s and seeing a gig listing for guitarist Wayne Prue.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 17:29:35 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks Bill M….a clarification on when middle age begins is always welcome! Glad to know I have a while…

BEG: Have fun……..and watch in particular the reaction to Jeff Beck. Clapton has said that having a guitar festival without him would be “unthinkable” and he really lights it up at all of the crossroads shows. Also, for non-players the inclusion of Vince Gill might be a surprise but he is a regular at the crossroads guitar fests and a wicked player. Chet Atkins thought the world of him….that is how I came to know about him. In fact…………..Did not see Keith Richards on that list?? A scoop at the GB maybe……Let us just PRAY he leaves that annoying LS of his at home…..

Todd…..I believe that distinction is important as Sebastian specifically separated the two and commented on the “Likely set” not the “Dream set”…….as such you would have to think that “Straight Down The Line” is definitely in. I am glad The Weight will not be played for all sorts of reasons…………..Jed is correct about the focus being more on guitar than songs and that rules out a number that under other circumstances we would all want to see played.

Jed…..Right on about the atmosphere at some venues….and it is the “talkers” that drive me mad at shows….a new thing actually as I don’t remember this when I was younger…..perhaps I was too busy talking back then! Just kidding……..What I love about Jeff Beck shows ( regular shows that is ) is that just about every musician in town shows up….at a place like the great Massey Hall in Toronto that means a good portion of the crowd is made up of people that play and really respect music themselves……..lots of appreciation…..not too much talking or unnecessary noise at the wrong times.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 16:59:36 CEST 2013 from (184.144.107.28)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rick and Levon

I forgot Bill M that now in Canada you have to be 67 in order to get your Canada pension if you didn't turn 55 by the end of March of this year. Unfortunately Mr. Maximus' partner will turn 55 this month....Anyway, Pitbull tells us that the new 40 is 30 so that means that the new 50 is 40 and the new 60 is 50 and the new 70 is 60.
Btw Bill M...While in Gulf Shores, Alabama....I mentioned The Band as I always do and my Canadian friend asks who is that? She's the one who went to school with Pat Quinn and some of our famous comedians. So.....Here I go again....I start to sing a bit of "The Weight" and "Up On Cripple Creek" and then I said that they played with Ronnie Hawkins as The Hawks in Toronto....Oh yeah she says.....I saw them when they played at the Hawks Nest. She's almost 67 and said......"They were pretty good."......What??????

SEBASTIAN...Could you ask Robbie if it's true that The Hawks would go to his home and your late grandma would cook for them? Maybe this was the time when Robbie was living on First Avenue in Toronto or in Scarborough or at Bathurst and Bloor?


Entered at Fri Apr 5 16:57:29 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Brown Eyed Girl

You are in for an interesting time.Lots of big arena distractions,talking,texting,cell phones,picture takers,talkers,etc.But,the cast is stellar and I am quite envious.Two nights is certainly an ideal way to do this,and looking forward to your review.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 16:48:55 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: ps

BEG: I'm referring just to men. You people will have to come up with your own metrics.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 16:43:41 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Herb Tarlick wannabees

BEG: Middle-age begins at 65. Old-age begins when all colour sense flies out the window and we start buying yellow-check sports jackets and maybe even leisure suits.

sadavid: Remember the "Full Winnipeg" - leisure suit with white tie, belt and shoes?


Entered at Fri Apr 5 16:21:32 CEST 2013 from (184.144.107.28)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth, Levon and Rick.

About the Show OVER 30 OF THE WORLD’S GREATEST GUITARISTS PLAY SIDEMEN TO EACH OTHER OVER TWO NIGHTS AT THE WORLD’S MOST FAMOUS ARENA, MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, APRIL 12-13!

CURRENT CROSSROADS FESTIVAL ARTIST LISTING (Note: Two Different Nights of Music. Not All Artists Will Perform Both Nights)

Albert Lee
Allan Holdsworth
Allman Brothers Band
Andy Fairweather Low
BB King
Blake Mills
Booker T
Buddy Guy
Citizen Cope
Dave Biller
Doyle Bramhall II
Earl Klugh
Eric Clapton
Gary Clark Jr.
Jeff Beck
Jimmy Vaughan
John Mayer
John Scofield
Jonny Lang
Keb Mo
Keith Urban
Kurt Rosenwinkle
Los Lobos
ROBBIE ROBERTSON
Robert Cray
Robert Randolph
Sonny Landreth
Taj Mahal
Vince Gill

I'll be at ERIC CLAPTON'S GUITAR FESTIVAL in NYC for both nights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I won't be reporting back as I'll be there for almost a week so someone else will have to report.

Looking forward to seeing in particular.....ROBBIE
JEFF BECK, KEB MO, ROBERT RANDOLPH, TAJ MAHAL, Booker T on organ. If Robbie performs with anyone it will be either Eric and/or Randolph. Thanks to Robbie I've downloaded two of his favourite songs by Robert Randolph. Since I'm younger than the seniors I'll be singing Pink's...."Let's Get This Party Started"!
If being middle-aged is from mid-forties on.....I'm guessing that KJ is in our club too.

As for the crowd being of a certain.....Uhhhh.....I'll go anywhere to see Robbie play so......if I can handle this male dominated place I can handle the Gardens.....lol......I'll also be thinking about the original six hockey teams that played there as well.....

When I attended Rick Danko's Tribute at the Horseshoe Tavern.....I did get to see Richard Bell play "Chest Fever".....and it's true.....The mostly male dominated audience just went full tilt with their testosterone levels on us......It was the first time I saw BARK...so I just went with the flow.

Eric Clapton.....Where are the female guitarists like Sue Foley who opened for BB King, Tedeshi, your former flame who wrote "You're My favourite Mistake"?

Seniors....Baby seniors are 50-59, mid-seniors are 60-64 and real seniors are 65+.....based on what I've experienced in Canada and USA for SOME....ticket prices for movies and restaurant meals and hotel rooms.

Although I can't remember the music played by Rick and Levon at their show in Toronto in 1983.....I do remember Garth and Levon on stage at The Hawks' Tribute at Massey Hall. Levon was just groovin' on drums and Garth......Garth.....first time I saw him rock out a bit.....The Weber Brothers were on stage too.....So I've seen two duos from THE BAND. In praise of older women and men who have seen THE HAWKS, THE BAND!

I saw Jesse Winchester at the Horseshoe Tavern and he was fantastic, especially when he did "Rhumba Man" and moved his body in all these quirky ways. Second time was at Hugh's Room. The performance was quieter and more introspective. Someone from this site wanted me to say hello to him and I did. He takes his performances seriously and then.....He's outta there.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 16:06:16 CEST 2013 from (99.255.116.43)

Posted by:

GregD

John D-thanks for Jesse Winchester update. A little late for me to get tickets now unfortunately. I was coincidentally just listening to his Robbie Robertson-produced album recently.

Bill M-I'm not much familiar with Watkinson's early work but was aware that he had been on the T.O./Yonge St. scene in the early-mid '60's so the possibility was always there that he'd run across the Hawks or one of their incarnations.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 16:03:37 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Roger Ebert on The Last Waltz

The popular film critic Roger Ebert passed away yesterday in Chicago. Years ago he gave "The Last Waltz" an unfavorable review, criticising it for conveying a sense of sadness, rather than evoking joy in the making of music. (see link) As he wrote:

"...[T]he overall sense of the film is of good riddance to a bad time."

"Yet I give three stars? Yes, because the film is such a revealing document of a time."


Entered at Fri Apr 5 15:10:34 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: apartment 508
Web: My link

Kevin J: Thanks for coming to my defence. In return I give you an early look at what I'm taking to the building's rummoli game upstairs in Betty Lou's place this evening. It's Friday - PARTAY!! I


Entered at Fri Apr 5 15:02:32 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: More RR Crossroads Talk

All the guitarists show up to this show to demonstrate their guitar slinging skills.They parade before us their most exquisite chops.I love The Band for its service to the song,to truly honoring the essence of the song.But,at Crossroads,the musical service is to the guitar.No matter the song,in this setting,I'd love for RR to demonstrate his finest chops.In extended soloing RR can showcase himself as one of the most talented and interesting soloists in guitar.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 14:45:12 CEST 2013 from (108.199.114.24)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Peter V, That may be, although I just looked back, and Kevin had 'Straight Down the Line' in his "Dream" set. Sebastian only said that it would be none of the choices in Kevin's "likely" set. Splitting hairs I know, but it's still somewhat possible.

Even tougher will be to guess the Band song choice. Clapton has always expressed a fondness for 'The Moon Struck One' but that seems very unlikely for this sort of event. I think 'Up on Cripple Creek' could always be a contender for something from 'The Band' era.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 14:18:54 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Crossroads guesses

Sebastian's original post said:

I believe he's doing three songs... One from Clairvoyant, another solo and a Band tune. Wanna know which ones??? Sorry. It's a secret

Then Kevin J suggested "Straight Down The Line" and it's apparently not. I think Go Back To Your Woods sits with What About Now. Both fit the sort of event.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 14:11:19 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: RR Crossroads Set

Sure hope Robbie doesn't do Further On Up The Road.Great the first few times I saw/heard it.I think it's played out by now.Would love to see Robbie do Little Wing with EC,and would love to see RR change it up with some structured improvisational jazz/blues with the Allmans--i.e. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed.RR would add an element of style to that song probably never heard before just as EC did at the 5/20/09 show he did with the Allmans.I realize that jamming was never RR's thing but it would certainly be a unique experience.RR's guitar tone and overall sound are singularly unique in music and I recall a R&R HOF show with McCartney looking on awestruck as RR played a particularly compelling lead during a jam(see,there's a bit of a jam,albeit way too basic given his massive talent which might be better showcasd on an extended Liz Reed).Perhaps due to his great success with The Band and in songwriting,RR's guitar chops remain under emphasized.It sure would be special to see RR spread out a bit and take a chance.What better moment to try something different than Crossroads!


Entered at Fri Apr 5 14:09:50 CEST 2013 from (174.226.1.220)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Crossroads

I think 'Straight Down the Line' is likely for one of the choices. I think that 'I Shall Be Released' is unlikely for a guitar festival type of show. 'Broken Arrow' could make for a good duet. 'Go Back to Your Woods' could work in that type of setting.

Billy C, Yes I definitely missed the episode where you "adopted" Norman. I have a feeling that he's going to be a handfull when he becomes a teenager.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 13:31:17 CEST 2013 from (68.198.167.170)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: Professor Louie & The Crowmatix

If anyone plans to be in the Hudson Valley this weekend, Saturday night Professor Louie and the Cromatix are playing the BSP Lounge in Kingston.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 11:45:26 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: SPAM

Just deleted the morning 26 from my blog, and there's 11 from the same address here. Eventually the internet will collapse under the weight of all this shite being peddled around.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 09:54:59 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Crossroads guesses

I thought Kevin's guess for Crossroads was a likely one. We should run a book or rather a contest. If Sebastian could hold the answer until the day. I discount my dream set (When The Night Was Young, Crazy River, King Harvest) because this sort of event tends to rockier numbers. I would look at the theme of Crossroads, raising money for Eric Clapton's centre to help addiction. Then you look at a song Robbie and Eric played together. That puts my first bet firmly on He Don't Live Here No More for the Clairvoyant track.

A solo track? I don't know if previous is any guide, as Sevilla was twenty years ago, and it was Robbie's own selection of the the guys in the band, with two keyboards and the requisite horns. But Shake this Town was a good guess by Kevin and would have been my guess too. I can't see a slow or quiet song working in the setting, and the Native American material would require a specialist musician or two in addition to a rock band. My personal choice would be Soap Box Preacher, but I'm sure it won't be. I'll go for What About Now.

Not The Weight? That's a surprise, as the different singers for different verses is perfect for a situation with several 'stars' on stage and everyone knows it. It's so predictable that may be why it's not in. I Shall Be Released is technically a Dylan song, but everyone thinks of it as Band song, and it was done at Agrigento and TLW. It also fits the addiction theme of Crossroads and being rescued from it, so the message is right for the night. I'll go for it.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 08:31:32 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Bily C. (Friend0

Hey, yeah. Chilliwack had some great songs.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 08:29:57 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Kevin, another good laugh. Thanks. You must have been traveling when this took place.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 07:48:10 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: 10 minute misconduct

Kevin: the absolute key to longevity is the commitment of being a Leafs fan. I have blue blood running in veins and arteries, since I was 5 or 6 years old and watched Ed Chadwick, Tod Sloan, a young Big M , Dave Keon aand so many others develop to win 4 Cups in the 60s. Alas, it is the wait that will likely keep me alive until I am 100. Oh, the folly of youth! It is so easy to be a Habs fan! In those days, you knew every player on the 6 teams by first and last name. You had the lines memorized and you knew who was in the minor leagues and who should come up. You waited for The St. Michael's College Majors to send the Leafs their best. My kids don't believe me when I talk about the miracle of Imlach and cohorts. To finish on a seniors note, it was mainly a bunch of old guys who won the Cup in 67 with scores like 2-1 and 3-2 as an aging Bower and a middle aged Sawchuck lead the way to glory.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 07:34:03 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.152)

Posted by:

Kevin J

............as we mourn Roger Ebert, imagine this scene.........100 miles off the coast of Vancouver.........25 ft waves, Rocking Chair aka Norm is feeling this could be it........he thinks of his beautiful wife.....his family.......perhaps a Band song.....but mostly he is comforted by the knowledge that he has been "adopted" by Billy C..............Oh My!!!!!

JT: John D is a Habs fan so he will live forever........no worries there but Bill M a senior? ...my oh my.......crank up the Max Webster at the seniors apartment! Betty Lou in 107 might have blue hair but she danced to Chilliwack in her day........


Entered at Fri Apr 5 07:00:49 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Very perceptive

Very perceptive, Kevin. Now you know what it means to be a senior. You passed the test.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 06:50:52 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.152)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Forgive me JT......but did you fall asleep after that last "I" ?


Entered at Fri Apr 5 04:30:44 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: approaching senior citizenship

I want to reassure everyone that it is great to be this age (health is the gift and number one on the hit parade). My musical sensibilities remain intact and one of the joys of living. I still get out there and look for shows and performers/artists who interest me, just as I did in the 60s. John D knows exactly what I'm talking about. He's there too and keeps on keeping on. Same with Bill M and I'm sure others who are here. What is a real joy is to share with 'all-ages' musical minds I continue to learn and you are my teachers. I


Entered at Fri Apr 5 04:27:08 CEST 2013 from (99.233.66.183)

Posted by:

Blind Willie McTell

Subject: Crossroads NYC Concert

What about Bad Intentions? That would be an easy song for a bunch of guitar players. Chest Fever with Garth - that would be amazing. Wish I could get to MSG.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 03:31:01 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.152)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you Sebastian. That's great.......and on the subject of guitar playing.......Although glad to not actually be of that age, I often do wish I had been around to take in that great Yonge Street scene in Toronto 1960-1965 when Robbie was setting things on fire with his playing. Still the stuff of legend for a great many musicians in this city and country.

As to Roger Ebert, very sorry to hear of his passing today. He was clueless about rock music and out to lunch on TLW but a film critic of the highest order. I would think that I was on the same page as he was 90% of the time and that show he did in the early 80's on PBS with Gene Siskel while sometimes being mocked for the thumbs up/thumbs down thing was great viewing for anyone that cared about film and intelligent-not pretentious conversation about it.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 03:29:42 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: crystal

Todd. It stands for Billy Crystal. The last time Westy lost his mind and went off on me ( i wrote SOMETHING to the effect that this country would have gone down a different path if not for the assassinations of 3 of our great leaders, JFK, MLK, and RFK, and that offended him) I decided that i would henceforth employ Norman, his given name, so I could consider him as Norman the calf, from that movie , I think it was called City Slickers. Billy Crystal, Jack Palance, Bruno Kirby, etc, and i forgave him. Anyway, Norman grew on Billy C who saved his life in the river, wouldn't let him go to the slaughterhouse, and adopted him. So calling myself Billy C. would put me in the constant frame of mind that I adopted Norman, nothing he might ever do could override my tenderness for him. Looking at it that way, everything changes. .

In my list of Brooklyn singers , I neglected to include Steve Freund. We grew up half a mile apart, never knew each other then, he's got 5 or 6 years on me.. Steve sings, and i love his voice and singing, but it's not what he's known for, he's known for his guitar. But, if you get his album Lonesome Flight, he does some wonderful singing on it. it;s nothing but blues, mostly originals, and it's a fne straight blues record.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 02:44:01 CEST 2013 from (71.184.199.161)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: Roger Ebert

Roger's review of the 2002 release anniversary edition of "The Last Waltz"


Entered at Fri Apr 5 02:38:22 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Kevin J

Robbie is not playing one of the songs on your "likely set" :)Although I love the idea of Axman! Maybe I'll pass that along to him...


Entered at Fri Apr 5 02:14:37 CEST 2013 from (108.195.3.35)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Billy C

Hey Jeff. I forgot to ask this earlier, but when or how did you become Billy C? Any signifigance to the name. Maybe I've been away too long if people are changing their names. Is it to protect the innocent?

I suppose name adjustments fit in well on a The Band site. After all, Robbie was James, Levon was Mark, and Garth was Eric.


Entered at Fri Apr 5 00:16:11 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

For those of you interested in what The Band sounded like in 1974. Not the complete show.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 22:54:36 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

3 years, not 4. I was wrong.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 22:52:20 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Brooklyn's Finest

Four years since Johnny Maestro died. May he rest in peace.The link is to two of Brooklyns finest voices. Kenny Vance still tours alot for a 70 year old man. I think of Brooklyn singers, i think of Streisand. Diamond, Manilow, Maestro, Vance, Robbie Dupree, Garland Jeffreys. And there is also Linda November, the Jingle Queen.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 22:02:16 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

There are many great keyboard players. Many that are still alive too. Garth is in his own class. Nobody touches him. People that can give you great work. But no one besides Garth can give you what Garth will come up with.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 21:30:29 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINK: Stevie Winwood ripping it up at Guitar Fest 2007.......If only Garth could pull this switch he would definitely be there........Winwood is truly stunning here ( lovely green strat ).........and what a voice......not someone you would want to follow on stage at one of these things....Keef then Robbie will be a more even flow in the singing department...


Entered at Thu Apr 4 21:21:16 CEST 2013 from (83.160.180.22)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Cahoots

Played Cahoots too, today. Enjoyed it as well, especially Carnival and 4%P. And TMS1 of course (sorry, Peter...).

But The River Hymn remains IMO the weakest of all Band songs: unimaginative in all its pretentiousness.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 20:56:40 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Mick Taylor

There's an electric alternate version of Dylan's "Blind Willie McTell" that features Mick Taylor on slide guitar. This outtake from the "Infidels" sessions hasn't been officially released. For purely educational purposes, you can find under Infidels Outtakes - Elston Gunn on youtube at the 9:21 mark :-)


Entered at Thu Apr 4 20:51:44 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Guitar Nut

Kevin,don't get me wrong.I am quite the guitar nut myself.After all,I just spent 2 days listening to all 7 discs of the Duane Allman boxset(even though I said I wouldn't buy it,believing I had most of it).But,a good dose of Garth will alter any musical experience.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 19:48:21 CEST 2013 from (81.159.31.234)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks JT

Played Cahoots today. Really enjoyed it.

I wish I'd known you a few years ago when my wife and I visited Toronto and I was allowed one day for 'Band Tourism'. Visited all the sites - well the ones I knew of then - then a visit to Stratford where I visited Richard's grave, the church he sang in, the star and 'I shall Be Released' bench.

Greatest band in the world.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 19:46:04 CEST 2013 from (70.53.46.47)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Jed….I was thinking that also and given the make-up of the crowds at the EC guitar fests – very much bone hungry guitar nuts mostly male – a dim the lights then Garth into to Chest Fever with Robbie really letting loose would be perfect……………….Dream set: Straight Down the Line, Showdown at Big Sky, Chest Fever with Garth……………………Likely set: Axman,, Shake this Town, The Weight


Entered at Thu Apr 4 19:19:30 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: RR

So glad he's playing 3 songs at the Crossroads show.Would like to see him bring Garth out.The crowd might learn something about music!


Entered at Thu Apr 4 19:00:46 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Greg D

That of course would be GreG. Typing too fast today.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 18:59:56 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Gred D

Greg, tomorrow night and Saturday night.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 17:47:14 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.204)

Posted by:

Kevin J

In fairness, the often gracious Keith Richard had this to say about Mck Taylor: "His touch, his tone, and his melodic ideas wowed me. I never understood why he left..."  


Entered at Thu Apr 4 17:39:43 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.204)

Posted by:

Kevin J

From Micktaylor.com:

Differences in musical abilities quickly surfaced at the Hyde Park rehearsals. Taylor remarks, " I just couldn't believe how bad they sounded. Their timing was awful. They sounded like a typical bunch of guys in a garage. Playing out of tune and too loudly. I thought: How is it possible that this band can make hit records?" Taylor will often point to the age difference and cite that he never particularly wanted to ride the coat tails of other people's success. His attitude ran along the lines of "I wasn't with them when they started and I wouldn't be with them forever." On the other hand Mick's quiet and introspective mannerisms made for an easy personality to accept. His calm and non-invasive ways gave the Stones something they could not find in Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck, mainly high quality guitar playing without an aggressive ego.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 17:39:32 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

GregD: I never thought to ask him, but I'm sure the answer would have been yes, as Sonny and the Sequins were another Yonge Street fixture, including his days with them up until '64 when he joined Dee and the Yeomen. After Dee left, Terry became the lead singer, and sings their last two 45s, which were on the Maintream label. One song, "Chains", is a terrific song in the Band mode - a bit of a cross between "The Stones I Throw" and "Look Out Cleveland", sung in a very Rickish voice.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 17:14:59 CEST 2013 from (70.54.134.247)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Thank you very much JD. I really appreciated your post to me. Yes, seeing Robbie was on my bucket list. I posted before that I missed The Band....by one year as I wasn't in Toronto then and still in high-school. No excuse really.....It was weird that my high-school arranged for us to see Yesssss at Maple Leaf Gardens......I only knew one song. It was the only time in my life that I went purely for the experience but not for the band.

Two years later I saw the Rolling Stones in Buffalo, New York as our local music shop arranged a bus to take us there......Now that was something....The entire bus was catching a fire and there I was an innocent teenager.....I was the kind of teenager who would get Rolling Stone in the mail when it looked like a newspaper....but I never experimented with substances at that time. I could live vicarioulsy through an older brother. lol
I also saw the Stones at ACC.....They're always a lot of fun.

I saw Mick Taylor solo at a small venue in the Hudson's Bay Centre. I've always been a fan of Mick and still remember in one interview where he said he left the group because they're not very good musicians.....Well....Mick Taylor is a musician's musician afterall......I'm considering seeing the show in Toronto only.....because Mick Taylor will be with them.

Serenity...I read all of your posts. I value the kindness you show to all posters. I can tell that when you used to get out that you were a huge music fan.....You still are.....I dig your positive energy and it was great chatting with you while in Kitchener. You really missed a great blues festival.....It was freeeeeee and there we were.....I had seen the Staple Singers for free at our Harbourfront with Pops Staples....This time I moved right to the front row to take some photos and......Mavis Staples was singing to me....."I'll Take You There"......and she did! :-D

Thank you Sebastian for letting us know which night Robbie will be performing. I'm now going both nights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope Ari makes it to the show as well!!!!!

Making a noise in this world
Making a noise in this world
You can bet your ass
I won't go quietly
Making a noise in this world!


Entered at Thu Apr 4 17:14:21 CEST 2013 from (99.255.116.43)

Posted by:

GregD

John D-That's good news about Jesse Winchester coming to Hugh's Room. Do you know what dates he's to be there?

Bill M-this may have come up before, but do you know if Terry Watkinson, ex-Max Webster keyboardist and "Let Go The Line" vocalist, ever crossed paths with our guys back in the day?


Entered at Thu Apr 4 17:04:43 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: Thanks. I believe him too, though until he put it out so fully and publicly in his book I discounted the statements in short interviews as some combination of overstatement and misquoting. For what it's worth, at least one of the older interviews suggested that Jay Smith was in the same boat - that he too was a formal auxilliary frontman with Hawkins and our guys. While Jay (Eugene) was a formal Hawk later in the '60s, and was a regular guest singer earlier on (as were many others) he's never to my knowledge claimed to be anything more than a guest vocalist in the "Levon and" days.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 16:03:31 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Hawks

I never saw DCT sing with the Hawks, Bill M. I believe that if he wrote it (I read it also: the biography is indeed very good), then it happened.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 15:56:47 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Crossroads

Already some historically meaningful moments in past Crossroads shows.Few may recall,but the first such concert featured Dylan (doing Crossroads with EC) and Sheryl Crow at MSG.I saw that one live,the rest on DVD.I recently read that EC will be sitting in with the Allmans.If its anything like the EC sit ins with the Allmans on 5/19 & 5/20,2009 we are in for a real treat when the next DVD is released!


Entered at Thu Apr 4 15:50:39 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dexy: Thanks for the post and the hello.

JT: Your post reminds me to ask if you ever saw David Clayton Thomas singing with the Hawks. For 30+ years he's been saying, in interviews and in more detail in his worthwhile autobiography, "Blood, Sweat and Tears", that around '64 he was doing double-duty - singing with the Hawks in bars on Yonge Street during the week and with the younger Shays at dances and teen shows on the weekends. Neither he nor the additional horns that Hawkins had on hand for in-town shows 'toured' outside Toronto.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 15:42:12 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

The Rolling Stones: The interesting news today is not that they are heading back out on tour ( May 25 at Ar Canada Centre ) but that Mick Taylor will be with them for a large part of it.

Thanks to Sebastian for keeping us updated and thanks to JT for these great little slices of Band history. Love it.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 15:41:32 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Crossroads

Taped versions of previous Crossroad Festivals have aired on PBS tv here in the U.S., usually around the time the DVD is about to be released.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 15:39:08 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: JT

Coke and Fries Matinée??? Now I'm really bummed out (smiley face) Living in Oshawa I didn't know the Toronto scene for another 3 years; when I came to CKFH. Drats.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 15:12:32 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Fortunately in the UK, you could drink at 18, but enter premises where alcohol was sold at 16. There were no ID cards and little checking, so I could get in to watch Zoot Money at 15 (being tall and not too zit covered). You may have had trouble buying a beer sometimes, but at least you were there. The other venue I haunted (Manfred Mann, The Who, Rod Stewart) was unlicensed as far as I remember, so there wasn't an issue … soft drinks only. That was a cellar club.

As we discussed before, the main venues in tourist towns called themselves "ballrooms" and the bar wasn't actually in the main hall. They were large venues too, which means I'm always amazed nowadays seeing (say) The Decemberists or The Civil Wars in places a quarter of the size. In the early 60s, 500 was normal for an audience, 1000 not at all unusual … even for the semi-pro bands who would be the support act. I always guessed that's what The Hawks were playing. It taught bands to project themselves, that's for sure.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 15:10:18 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Levon and the Hawks at the Concord

Writing from Victoria, John. Its early. Saturday afternoon at the Concord Tavern on Bloor St. was a 'coke and fries' afternoon when kids could come to watch the shows. Levon and the Hawks packed the place. I had a table as my dad was part owner. I also got to see others (Jon and Lee and the Checkmates, etc) during that year or two. It was wonderful then and in retrospect, I was fortunate to be at the right place at the right time. No one knew then what was about to transpire, but Levon and the Hawks stood out. Their show was polished and solid and they played covers of all the R&B and rock standards of the time. Other acts during that period (Jackie Shane, DCT and the Shays, Esquires - all terrific, but LATH were the best). They came back to the Concord often, intertwining their week or two stays there with weeks on Yonge St. at the other establishments. One thing I remember clearly is how highly my dad thought of Robbie Robertson. He had only positive things to say about him. So there you have it. I didn't get to Yorkville much in the later 60s but I had the privilege of seeing Levon and the Hawks before the ascent and that was special.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 14:34:01 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: JT / Hawks

JT you were so fortunate to see the Hawks in '64. I was only 17 and the drinking age was 21. I know everyone can say this (insert number here); but I was about 4 years too young to see a lot of great stuff. Thanks Ontario. I'll let JT tell you; if he wants to; how he was able to get in. I think you've told the story before. I'm filled with envy Jerry.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 14:12:37 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jesse Winchester

In town for two nights at Hugh's Room.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 13:59:09 CEST 2013 from (108.204.13.235)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Crossroads

I won't be able to make it to the Crossroads concert either, but I'm sure it will be a good show. There's usually a fairly good variety of guitarists at these shows. At this point, it would be nice if Garth & Robbie did some sort of project together, either live or otherwise.



Entered at Thu Apr 4 10:43:43 CEST 2013 from (75.34.51.58)

Posted by:

Adam

I know what Peter V means - location can be frustrating for really special shows. I WILL be attending the "Songs of The Band" on April 19, but unfortunately not Robbie at "Crossroads" the week before. And it is still one of my ultimate goals to see Robbie live (giving me 3 of 5 original members). I'm sure it will be really great, and I can't wait to see a video.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 09:37:01 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Keith Richards / Robbie link, which just came to me, is "Hail Hail Rock & Roll" the Chuck Berry film.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 09:35:32 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Wow, Keef and Robbie, the two I'd most like to see one after the other. Sometimes living in Britain is frustrating (well, living in Britain is frustrating for many reasons), but I do envy those who can get to Songs of The Band and Crossroads.

Eric Clapton's "Old Sock" was on most of yesterday.There is at first a weird shift between The Folks Who Live On The Hill, All of Me, Goodnight Irene (All titles which put me off initially) and Angel, Further On Down The Road, Every Little Thing. I wouldn't say a reggae rhythm is on some tracks so much as a Caribbean lilt. But as you listen more, it all melds together and makes sense. In a way it reminds me of 461 Ocean Boulevard


Entered at Thu Apr 4 04:48:29 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Crossroads ...

I just checked in and saw that Ari and BEG were curious about what night my dad was playing. I just texted him but haven't heard back just yet. Yes, Robbie texts, he's an iPhone guy. Hoping he hits me back in the next couple seconds so i can post an answer... Bingo! He said he plays on the 13th and that he's scheduled to go on after Keith Richards. Hope that helps. If I hear of any changes I'll be sure to post them.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 04:22:24 CEST 2013 from (24.124.96.66)

Posted by:

Dexy

Subject: And also...

Hello, Bill M.....


Entered at Thu Apr 4 04:19:57 CEST 2013 from (24.124.96.66)

Posted by:

Dexy

Web: My link

Subject: Jeff Bridges interview featuring Ronnie Hawkins

The Dude references Ronnie and the Band in this new interview.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 01:01:51 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

If anyone played second fiddle it was Rick Danko, and only on ""Acadian Driftwood".


Entered at Thu Apr 4 00:27:44 CEST 2013 from (184.66.137.72)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Quintet

Its interesting to reflect on how it seems our contributors view The Band. The writer/composer, the singers, the wonderful multitalented musicians who could play many instruments, made up a super-quintet. The sum was greater than its parts. Until 1976, that is how I saw them and still see them in this light. To think that there are camps and that somehow petty grievances occupy the concerns of many here at the GB site is of concern. Over and over, there are comments about one or another and the ultimate result I think is a lack of respect for the entity as a whole. I prefer to bask in the aura of that quintet and leave the rest alone. So when I read about how Dunc or John D or others listened again and marvelled at the works, I am reassured and relieved that the mundane plays second fiddle to the brilliance.


Entered at Thu Apr 4 00:27:30 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

If a tree fell on the guest book, the Levonistas would say it was all Robbie's fault, and that 20% of the logs belonged to Levon.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 23:41:08 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: If a tree fell in the guestbook..

The dankettes would compare it to Rick; the manuelistas would use it as some sort if allegory for Richards life. Garth would use it in his composing. Levon's people would compar it to him. And Robbie would maintain a dignified silence.

I've said it before, I think here is one of the best places on the net. I love catching up with old friends here - none of whom I've met face to face, but some I've emailed. I've spoken to deb b, and must again soon. I realised I must be one of the oldish timers here - it must be around the ten year mark that I've been posting.

Welcome to the new poster. Do stick around.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 23:36:13 CEST 2013 from (174.226.1.66)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: A Touch of Grey

No worries Jeff. I guess that was at the first Levon Ramble Beacon concert. Jan was there too as I recall. Hair was blonde but starting to get a little silvery. I'm not too concerned about the color, but my forehead seems to be claiming more and more real estate every year!


Entered at Wed Apr 3 22:39:26 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Hey Todd, I must apologize for what was hurried and could be overly dry writing on my part to you. Burning the candle on both ends and from the middle here a little. By theway, you've generally beena pretty open minded guy, always, but i think i noticed alittle more reflection in your tone towards the latter part of this last go round. Those touches of grey must be appearing :-) If i recall, you were a redhead when we met for a minute. what was that, 8 or 9 years ago?


Entered at Wed Apr 3 22:35:58 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Phil Ramone

Mr. Ramone was also the engineer on Levon & The Hawks 1965 ATCO single "The Stones I Throw" b/w "He Don't Love You." Henry Glover produced the sessions, during which the later released "Go,Go Liza Jane" was also recorded.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 22:24:20 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: papa was a rolling stone, sorta

sadavid: Thanks. The paper said 78 weeks, half of which I managed to get wrong. Good info re the Butter connection, a field in which you have shown praiseworthy expertise.

Everyone else: See sadavid's linked article-length article on "Ferdinand the Imposter" (with a sidetrip to "Daniel And The Sacred Harp").


Entered at Wed Apr 3 22:11:29 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: galloping consumption

Bill M: re: the Pony Express, Wikipedia says it's even worse than that -- the first ride was 3 April 1860, and the firm folded 26 October 1861 -- 18 months and a bit. And the enterprise lost a pile of money.

Remaining assets were eventually acquired by Wells Fargo, as were those of the competing Butterfield Overland stagecoach line -- founded, of course, by General Daniel Butterfield's papa, John W.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 22:09:43 CEST 2013 from (174.226.1.66)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: That Brick Wall

Well Jeff, I don't know Jimmy or Levon. But I do know that I'm the type that would walk into the brick wall. And I might even do it more than once, just to show that I meant to do it. Which partially explains why I keep coming back to this place. ;-)


Entered at Wed Apr 3 21:05:12 CEST 2013 from (70.53.46.47)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Phil Ramone

From RR's Facebook page.........new mix?

"I am deeply saddened to hear my friend Phil Ramone passed away. We first met in 1968 at A&R Studios while The Band was making Music From Big Pink. I am currently doing a new mix on an album we worked on together many years ago. He was a true sonic genius and a brilliant, versatile record producer. They just don't make 'em like that no more. Blessings, -RR


Entered at Wed Apr 3 21:04:24 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: The Crying of Lot 49

David P: Your title reminded me that there was a thing in the paper today noting that April 3 is the anniversary of the founding of the Pony Express in the US. It went on to say something that surprised me - that as iconic as it was/is, the operation lasted for just 78 months, i.e., less than, oh, KC and the Sunshine Band. Uh huh uh huh.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 21:03:03 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Todd, advocate STRONGLY is kind of it. But neither the word advocate or urge just seem to fit. The word "Encourage" definitely was not fitting to the situation. You have to know Jimmy and Levon. The situation is more like black or white. no grey area, not tan, no beige. No polka dots or stripes. .....Being in L.A. a long time could soften some NYers to the point of urging and encouraging, but it would not have worked with Levon any way. Levon had to walk into the brick wall himself. Jimmy is the guy who said hey, wake up, that brick wall you walked into is why you have a headache. Grab my hand, we'll walk around it together. Either that, or they'll bury you under that wall.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 19:56:29 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Clause To Cry

I imagine that it was due to Albert Grossman's business acumen that The Band's (then referred to as The Crackers) Capitol Records contract for exclusive services contained the following, as it were, exemption clause:

"Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained herein Artists shall have the right to perform and record as side men and/or as joint artists with Bob Dylan for any recording company, television program, motion picture or legitimate stage production for which Bob Dylan is then rendering services. Such activities shall be deemed excluded from this agreement and particularly Paragraph 6. with respect to such activities Artists may receive credit and participate in the normal advertising incidental thereto."

For Mr. Grossman, this would have added salt to the wound when The Band later recorded "Planet Waves" and "Before The Flood" with Dylan for David Geffen's Asylum label. Further irritating, no doubt, was the fact that attorney David Braun, who began his career working for Grossman and probably helped draw up that Capitol contract, chose to remain working for Dylan when he left Grossman. (Sadly, Mr. Braun, who also represented other artists such as George Harrison and Michael Jackson, passed away in January of this year.)

After his brief foray with Geffen, Dylan, represented by Mr. Braun again, resigned with Columbia. As the devil's in the details, another contract clause involving Dylan would come into play. Under his new deal, that company would later acquire the rights to "Planet Waves" and "BTTF".

And just think how the suits at Capitol must have felt in 1974. They still had The Band under contract and the group hadn't recorded a studio album of new material since "Cahoots" in 1971. Albeit, "Moondog Matinee" and the live "Rock of Ages" LP-set at least provided Band fans with excellent efforts. Showing renewed strength, the group delivered "Northern Lights - Southern Cross", another fine album of original material for Capitol in 1975. That same year however, "NLSC" competed with Columbia's release of a refashioned version of Dylan's Basement Tapes, featuring The Band prominently, under Robbie's guidance.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 19:29:35 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Why I'm here

I don't pretend to know a lot about music. I love The Band and I like the conversations that take place here. Is this place necessary? The answer is "no". But perhaps it is an "addiction " of sorts, but I really enjoy the conversations and Ii have learned a lot about The Band and music in general. It gets a little "testy" here once in a while, but it is generally in good nature and I've learned how to duck

So Anthony the message is , please stick around, post if you like, and don't be intimidated


Entered at Wed Apr 3 18:50:27 CEST 2013 from (70.53.46.47)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Jeff: Thank you………..your insights and edge are an important part of this GB. Every bar and in fact every band needs a little edge…..Look what happened to Sir Paul McCartney when he got away from the guy ( by the end guys ) that drove him a little nuts………Bliss leads to boredom and Silly Love Songs. On that subject that one-legged monster he was with for a while actually led to a bit of a creative rebirth for him…..hell of a price to pay for that but it did get him out of the house – didn’t it?

The GB……Does it Matter? It was at about this time in the conversation that the late Steve would have entered the fray with a lob about how that little wing-nut in North Korea is actually a more effective leader than Obama……or something along those lines…………conversations that happen in bars or on planes among people that are not real life friends rarely matter but they can make a life more interesting. Simple as that really……………………….Paul Theroux said “Tourists don't know where they've been, travelers don't know where they're going.” I like to think all the Twitter and Facebook people are like tourists and that the gang here – for the most part – are more like travelers.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 18:46:32 CEST 2013 from (70.192.69.172)

Posted by:

Ari

Sebastian what day is he playing because I was going to get tickets at least 3 to 4 months ago but I didn't get em because I didn't know when Robbie was playing. Unfortunately now they might be sold out. They really should specify. Also, that's right around my birthday and that would be the best birthday present ever to see Robbie live. I'm so excited just to hear what Band song he plays. He should do It Makes No Difference. That song is beautiful and his solo is fantastic in last waltz. It's my dads favorite band song.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 18:36:03 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: It Matters

Because It concerns The Band It matters.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 17:17:25 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Web: My link

A handful of East Coast concert dates for Amy Helm (see link).


Entered at Wed Apr 3 16:37:25 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Send in the Cloud

I've been re-reading Fred Goodman's book "The Mansion on the Hill" about the movers & shakers behind the commercializtion of the rock music business. There's a chapter devoted to Albert Grossman entitled "Cumulus Nimbus", after a description of the manager's spectral-like presence coined by Nick Gravenites, who was a member of one of Mr. Grossman's clients The Electric Flag. Mr. Goodman included this interesting, yet somewhat harsh assessment from insider Jonathan Taplin:

"One of the problems with Albert was that he was too hip. With Dylan he had perfected this strategy that the best thing to do was not communicate. Stay away from the press. 'Music from Big Pink' is the apotheosis of that theory: don't be known, be mysterious, and you'll be big. But the Band never could get out of that 'too hip' thing and never had the great success they probably could have if they'd been a little more willing to make some compromises with the music business. There was never an attempt by anyone to try and make a record that could be played on the radio. Nobody would ever say, 'Y'know, if you just get one record on FM radio, you might sell ten times as many records.' Which is usually the kind of news that a manager is supposed to give. But Albert would have never thought of doing that."

According to Mr. Goodman, The Band later severed their management arrangement with Mr. Grossman, as Dylan had done earlier, after they moved to the west coast, reunited with Dylan and began dealing with David Geffen. As Mr. Goodman recounted:

"Although Albert could console himself with the $625,000 the Band had to pay him to get out of its management contract, the split hurt. He still harbored hopes of one day having Dylan and the Band on Bearsville Records, and now Geffen -- whom he detested -- had them for his label Asylum."

Goodman, quoted Vinnie Fusco, a former member of Grossman's staff, as saying: "And then Robbie said in 'Rolling Stone' that he went with David because he's 'there', he's hip. Well, that hurt Albert a lot."


Entered at Wed Apr 3 16:28:31 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Band sights

John D: I saw the Band as Levon and the Hawks at the Concord in 64, at Massey Hall in Nov 65 with Dylan (I'll never forget, The Stones...), and then in Jan. 1974 with Dylan. I saw the reformed Band in Convocation Hall at Uof T (with Colin Linden and others). They were all memorable and I am fortunate both to be able to have witnessed and heard them and more importantly to write to you and tell you this. I still can visualize LATH and hear those Saturday afternoon shows today as I write this. For me, it all matters... what you write and what is created by those lucky enough to know how to create.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 16:06:10 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG/Robbie

I'm still in shock that Angelina has never seen Robbie live. I couldn't believe what I was reading. I'm sure you've told us before; but I felt I was reading that for the first time. I mean the thousands of words you have printed about him. Well BEG I hope you get your wish. Seeing all 5 of the original guys whether together; or apart has to be done in your lifetime. It has to be on BEG's bucket list, I figure. See you at the Levon tribute; in April at Hugh's Room.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 16:02:00 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.87)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: If a tree fell in the Guestbook ...

JT: You're right that the fact that we're onto existentialism makes it a red letter day here at the GB (or scarlet letter, as Legends guitarist Nathaniel Hawthorne used to say), but I must admit to being more chuffed with the idea of being a performance artist. Recognition - thanks Anthony!


Entered at Wed Apr 3 15:56:48 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Phil Ramone & Rob Fraboni / Before The Flood

Yesterday for whatever reason, I decided to go to my iTunes collections and and again for whatever reason, I went to the Before The Flood Album. I first went to Highway 61. The Band played behind Dylan like a runaway train; but under full control. Then I went to The Weight. How absolutely FULL sounding the track was. Then I always have to play The Shape I'm In. Again the recording of these tracks make me feel, like I'm back on Tour 74. Hats off to Phil Ramone; who passed away this week. Hats off to Rob Fraboni; who captured the sound off the floor.

I was reminded that there are GREAT LIVE albums out there; but the sound on this album is superb. It was a wonderful few minutes to listen to great musicians and great talent behind the board.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 15:36:32 CEST 2013 from (108.195.7.77)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Urged

Hey Jeff, I suppose I was paraphrasing, but for the sake of brevity I used the word urged (Definition: Recommend or advocate (something) strongly.). I wasn't quoting you. I guess I could have said encouraged. But I was simply repeating the core fact that Jimmy had something to do with it. I don't think I changed the meaning or intent drastically, but since I wasn't there, I suppose it's possible.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 14:38:55 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.243)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: JT, Kevin, Todd, Anthony.

JT, i imagine you would intuit that i am somebody who behaves as though he believes thatwhat he writes here matters. Still, like you say, it only matters to those who care enough.They also have to be capable of understanding. Yet, I do see Anthony's point. I could argue till the cow's come home with Peter, Pat, Adam, others. In the grand scheme of things, does it matter at all? I've left this GB more than once. Generally, it's a relief. If this is an "addiction", not checking in and posting is like getting the monkey off your back. I've stopped trying to disappear, but I do have better things to do. If I write some things here that matter to or entertain some of you, if Kevin makes me laugh, or if I get a piece of musical info here, what's the big deal about that? Maybe I'd cure cancer if i wasn't typing here.

Kevin- i knew that at least you would appreciate my humor. Thanks for the hearty laugh in return. You, and i would not have said this a year or two years ago, are one of the bright spots here.

Todd, this no big deal. But just to clarify, I wrote "I also was the poster who explained, in as much detail as I was comfortable, that & how Jimmy was the person responsible for getting Levon to play Band songs again." Vivino did not urge Levon to play Band songs. Jimmy doesn't urge anyone, and Levon was not a man anyone could urge into doing something....Jimmy did not have to pull any punches with Levon. You can imagine the exclusivity of that club..... Jimmy told him two things. One was - Either you play em, or I will. I'm not going to repeat the other publicly. It would be for Jimmy to say if he wanted to.

Yo Anth! What part of Queens are you from? I caught your posts. I just wasn't saying hello too fast..recon of sorts.... To answer one of your questions, nothing gets resolved in the way of Band related arguments and they are on auto repeat. And the tone and dynamics of the arguments do not improve. So, looking it in the eye, it is a waste of time. I'm ashamed of myself thinking about it. Thank you for helping me with this.



Entered at Wed Apr 3 14:31:03 CEST 2013 from (108.195.7.77)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Does it Matter

Peter M. You're a lucky man. Enjoy the show.

Anthony, Thanks for your thoughts, and I realize now that I mistakenly referred to you in an earlier post as a "new fan" when I really should have said "new poster". Since you're a few years younger than me, I can consider you a youngster. ;-) Anyway, welcome to the fun-house, and I think your perspective on expectations is valid. We have a choice to look at the glass as half full or half empty, and each of us needs to make that choice for themselves. There's really no right or wrong answer.

I wanted to clarify that I don't think that my outlook needs to be shared by others and I don't wish to hamper or impede any critical analysis...without that there wouldn't be as much to discuss. Reading back some of my posts, I realize that I can sound a bit preachy, defensive, or completely uncritical at times. There's work from the Band from all eras that falls short of the majesty that they are were capable of. I just choose to leave that aside, and focus on the parts that I like. Everyone needs to and does come to their own conclusions and perspective on what they want to get out of their Band experiences from any era. I'm just happy that I was able to experience any of it.

But at the end of the day, my perspective essentially, is that I'm just some schlub from Connecticut, who certainly has opinions, but who tries to stop short of imposing my dictates or will on what I feel an artist should or shouldn't do….whether that's The Band, Van Morrison, or Bob Dylan etc.. They achieved whatever level of success and quality they have without any input from me, and I feel that there's not much I can add that could make any of them better. For better or worse, they need to follow their own instincts…..because at times it enables them to be brilliant. And I'll take those high points when I can get them.

Does all this matter? Of course! Ar least somewhat.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 13:38:54 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Crossroads Guitar Festival

It sounds very tempting … hopefully it will appear on DVD eventually. Eric Clapton is in current good form, so collaborations should be great.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 11:58:06 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

JT: the first time I read your post, I agreed. The second time, I thought it was wrong. But now I've read it three times, I don't know.

I was amused to see our MY LINK people have cottoned on to the great Washington Irving. Just so they can cut and paste it onto a few websites, I've added more detail here.

Washington Irving was the singer-songwriter who played guitar with The Legend, a band from Tarrytown. He should not be confused with hip-hop star Irving Washington. The Legend comprised Ichabod Crane on keyboards, Diedrich Knickerbocker on bass, and Rip Van Winkle on drums. As so many bands do, they fell apart acrimoniously. It seems Ichabod was constantly pursuing groupies and was overeating to the extent when he found it hard to get behind the keyboard, and Rip was renowned for falling asleep mid-drum solo. Diedrich left them to pursue a chain of upmarket icecream outlets, famous for his invention, The Knickerbocker Glory.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 10:52:16 CEST 2013 from (70.29.31.149)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Grand River
Web: My link

"This is my way
What is your way
THE way doesn't exist."
Nietzsche

What does matter to me....Which night will Robbie be performing? I've seen more than once.....Eric Clapton, BB King, Robert Cray and once....Buddy Guy. My intention and hope is to finally.....see ROBBIE ROBERTSON PLAY LIVE. He has always been my favourite guitar player as he plays with EMOTION.

SEBASTIAN...I grew up along the same Grand River where Robbie visited his relatives during his summers. I will be in NYC next week. Will ROBBIE be performing on Friday or Saturday night at Eric Clapton's CROSSROADS FESTIVAL? This may be my only chance to see your father play live. If this happens I will have seen all Band members perform....except Richard Manuel. Also, if you were to check the archives in this Guest Book it would become clear why it would mean a lot to me to see your father play live. I've met him a few times.....but have never heard him play....and no one....plays like Robbie.

So what matters to me is which night Robbie will be performing and not which songs will be played. I can control whether or not I will be at this concert. I cannot control which songs will be performed. He wouldn't be playing the ones that would really matter to me but it's all good.

Making A Noise
Crazy Love with Aaron Neville
Slippin' and Slidin' with The Band
This Is Where I Get Off

However, he might play with Robert Randolph "Straight Down The Line". His most loose and coolest performance at the top of his game was on Jimmy Fallon's show with The Roots band. He should take them on the road with him and play at a few venues. I can suggest...... ;-D

"Win or lose, Levon was an artist who refused to go quietly into the night."
Maybe Levon was listening to Robbie's anthem of "Making A Noise".

"Kino Lorber is planning to release the film (Ain't In It For My Health") in theaters across North America in early 2013, followed by a VOD and home video release set for the summer along with other digital and television distribution."


Entered at Wed Apr 3 06:01:18 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Does it matter?

Wow? We arrive at existential questions on the Band site! Jan, we have reached a new high. Does it matter? Yes, it does, if one thinks it does. No, if there are no thinkers. There are thinkers. So, yes, it matters what is said here and what we say. To the thinkers, it matters. In the inert universe, without thinkers, it does not matter. When humans think, it matters. Does what I said here matter? Yes and no, it all depends on who reads this and what he/she thinks. And around and around we go. And thank you all for the ride.


Entered at Wed Apr 3 05:58:38 CEST 2013 from (202.152.202.186)

Posted by:

Sara

Web: My link

Cool band, great songs


Entered at Wed Apr 3 05:57:51 CEST 2013 from (202.152.202.186)

Posted by:

Michael

Web: My link

I always had liked Washington Irving. I believe he is one of the best songwriter there is. Anyway I'm glad i found your site.. great job :)


Entered at Wed Apr 3 03:45:56 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Crossroads

My dad is playing one night and I believe he's doing three songs... One from Clairvoyant, another solo and a Band tune. Wanna know which ones??? Sorry. It's a secret. :)


Entered at Tue Apr 2 23:38:37 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Anthony (or is it "Antony" as in Chicago style?), feel free to post whatever, whenever.

As to whether all of this matters, the answer is of course not.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 22:20:28 CEST 2013 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

mike h

Web: My link

Bob Dylan & The Band (audio & video) live - "Hero Blues" - Chicago (01/03/74).


Entered at Tue Apr 2 22:06:57 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Even in TLW, it seemed to me that Richard was a very thoughtful and intelligent person who'd make great company if you could keep him on track. I've seen unusually bright people use booze to spice up the humdrum of their daily lives; maybe Richard was like that too. Again, "can't we have something to feel?"


Entered at Tue Apr 2 22:05:25 CEST 2013 from (68.198.167.170)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: The first Rod Stewart Album

Kev, give that record a good listen. I love that record.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 21:56:30 CEST 2013 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

Anthony

Subject: Come On Board The Love Train. Ha Ha

Wow! Apologies. I owe responses to those who answered me. I have a few kids, two jobs, an old house. Time is at a premium. Each time I write something, and am about to enter it, I read the new entries first. In a flash what I wrote has become obsolete. By then I’ m out of time, and need to shut the computer. Next time I look, my writing is obsolete. This is a fast moving train, and I don’t know how, where, or if I should board. I’m home for a moment between jobs, so, here goes.

Not addicting? HaHa Rockin Chair! This is like the World Series, or maybe watching Army Maneuvers.

Considering The Band is long gone, this is oobatz. But not really. Though it is not the real world, the “conversation” is testimony to the importance of The Band’s music, and how they touched lives. But, twenty years Peter V.? Over ten for many of you? You’ve really been doing “this” that long? Oobatz!

Anyway, here’s some of what I wrote and updated a few times. By virtue of time elapsed and range of coverage, it’s an opus. I hope that is fine. Rockin Chair, Peter V. Todd. Thank you for answering me. Todd, I enjoyed your explanation. Critical fanatics and fanatical critics. It is frequently obvious who is who. In response to Rockin Chair and Peter V’s thoughts: I’m 43. Though my experience with The Band might not be as personal or informed as some of the contributors here, The Band’s music has been playing since my birth. I’m “Brainwashed.”

I grew up surrounded. My parents took me to some non bar room, and age restriction free Band performances in the 80s. In the 90s I saw The Band and shows with members on my own and with my folks. Growing up, I listened to my parents and their friends “discuss” The Last Waltz, various solo works, personalities, differences, and more. I read about these things and as an adult read more.

My folks, who both saw the original lineup, listen to music differently. Mom loved all Band shows, she might say the music was better this time than last, but, for her, it was all part of a greater event. My Dad loved hanging out too, but Pop is about the music. Pop would return from some 80s shows walking on air. Other shows he’d say some of it was primo, some of it was okay, some of it a little sucky. But even though many shows were not all great, he was always psyched by parts of the performance where he felt The Band showed up. And like some of you discussed, the voices. When the 90s came. I became old enough to see more shows, and began listening differently. I began to be discerning about performances. And I had the same feelings or experiences as Pop, there was a variety of quality of performance.

I noted that a few of you related similar experiences to my Dads, and my lesser experiences. My Dad still sees more live music than I. My folks had built in babysitters. We lived in a three family house owned and occupied only by family. With more family occupying another three family house down the block. Thick as thieves. Today, my folks, and my in laws, all living, are just miles away, so we have trustworthy kidsitters. Plus my son is plenty old enough and responsible too. (Though, in today’s world, you dread letting anyone out of your sight.) Still, life is much more expensive for us than it was for our folks. We just don’t have extra disposable income, plus I work two jobs. My time is limited.

Referring back to my original question ”What’s going on?” Discussion is good. Before The Question there were only one or two statements that were only negative that jumped out at me. Before The Question, I would have just responded that all this focus on the comparative perceived inferiority and problems of the 80s and 90s Bands is peculiar, because everything changes. Maybe appreciating The Band existed is a different way to look at and appreciate the latter day Band. That’s not turning a blind eye. It is appreciation of the good aspects. Same as we are taught to try to do with people. Focus on the good. That is where I was prior to The Question.

I possibly have much more to add. I’m new here. In general, I’m reluctant to run into a burning building. I’ll consider before I comment much about this little free for all. Also, I’m an outsider here. The veterans may not want my input.

I’m trying to get my Pop to read this Guest Book.I know he did look in years ago. Once or twice. That’s it. When it comes to computers, Pop’s a minimalist. But if I can get him to read this mess I think he’ll mutter in Italian, get agita, and say something worth hearing. Pops was born in the U.S., but is nothing but old school. He would have lots of opinions, and he’d probably never look in this Guest Book again. He would consider this a waste of time. He’s probably right. But, there is a reason I’d like him to look at this.

I’m busy as can be, and honestly, feel guilty spending this much time on this. I will look back in again, but it might be a bit before I can respond further, or decide not to. By then my thoughts on your brawl might be moot, because the subject changes.

One last thing. I was about to disagree with Rockin Chair about being able to know people on the internet. And about them being in your life. I’m young enough to be part of the computer generation. By virtue of evolution, computers play an increasingly valuable role in my profession. Yet, I want to believe that real life is a far cry from internet forums. Then Adam asked The Question and some contributors began to show aspects of themselves.I‘m in a people job. I see people all day, on my toes, and I know what I know. Including, I can’t know everything, or that what I suspect is only a possibility, and there is always more. But my gut is right, go with my gut (If it could only talk). But, while it may not be a good thing, after Adam asked The Question I could see where life fades into the internet cloud. Some of you showed yourselves. So, Rockin Chair, at least some of your point is verified.

But, maybe life should be left for life. What can this Guest Book actually accomplish regarding this Band related argument? How many people see this? Does this matter? On many levels, what I witnessed was fascinating. Especially on The Band and group or people level. Yet, does it matter? Are all of you, and I presently, participants in what is probably pointless performance art? Do Levon, Rick, and Richard, up in heaven, care about what gets written here?


Entered at Tue Apr 2 21:18:44 CEST 2013 from (70.53.46.47)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: The overwhelming point for me from that interview has always been the striking differences in Richard when sober…..as he jokes in that interview….he wishes he had been at TLW too! I love TLW and its importance to the Band legacy is enormous ( I have no doubt that none of us would be here or “know” each other if that movie had not been made ) but the only part of it that always bothered me was just the fact that it was filmed at a time when Richard was in terrible shape. That is undeniably part of the very story of that movie but when you see ( as an example in the RAS interview ) a glimpse of the person that Richard was/could be it is in such contrast to the character seen at TLW………….Al Kooper once poignantly observed that it took great guts and courage to go out and play the old hits in shit bars to a mix of fans and fools standing in sawdust and vomit……..a just sober Richard was not strong enough to do that in the mid-80’s…Tragic….…the sore feeling hovering over and around the Band post TLW were not all just about money.

Bob F: I knew nothing about this. Thank you…………………Funny timing. On Good Friday, I drove out to a place way up North that Bill and John probably know – an Antiques shop about 45 minutes North on Woodbine – and as usual when I am sentenced to such an afternoon, I find the books and records sections and look through those areas……..I am not a record collector but I never owned the first Rod Stewart solo album. Have all the Faces but RS only from “Every Picture Tells a Story”….anyhow “The Rod Stewart Album” was there and in pretty good shape - $10 - so I purchased it……………….At another bin there was The Band album – original cover but the vinyl was in terrible shape….it was listed at $60 – As I am not a collector, I did not pick it up but kept thinking I should have if just for the great feel of the album cover. Heavy and full…….


Entered at Tue Apr 2 21:13:47 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Well, it would seem that Rod has once again appropriated a Bob Dylan song. Check out the last song on Bob F's link, a song called "Beautiful Morning." Then take a listen to Dylan's New Morning." Another case of "Forever Young."


Entered at Tue Apr 2 21:08:37 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Eric Clapton

If you're into sampling a track from an album, have a go at "Angel" by Eric Clapton with J.J. Cale from "Old Sock". I think it's the best thing he's done in years. try it.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 20:54:38 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the Richard Manuel interview

Another thing that was good to see was Richard saying pretty much exactly when he joined the Hawks - the second Sunday of May 1961. This is several months earlier than Rob Bowman says in the group history he wrote many years ago, which can be found in this site's history section. (Not that that history should be taken to the bank, as this sentence a couple paragraphs earlier that is woefully inadequate - and even fails arithmetic: "(born July 5, 1943) was one of the first recruits. A refugee from Robbie and the Robots, Thumper and the Trambones and Little Caesar and the Consuls, Robertson, a few months shy of his sixteenth birthday, joined early in 1960: "Jaime Robbie Robertson (born July 5, 1943) was one of the first recruits. A refugee from Robbie and the Robots, Thumper and the Trambones and Little Caesar and the Consuls, Robertson, a few months shy of his sixteenth birthday, joined early in 1960, initially on bass."


Entered at Tue Apr 2 20:43:44 CEST 2013 from (68.198.167.170)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Web: My link

Subject: New Rod Stewart

Kevin J, have you heard these clips from the new Rod Stewart? It's not 'Mandolin Wind' but they don't sound bad. It may turn out to be a fun summer record. The bonus track is 'Love Has No Pride'. I'm very interested in hearing his version of that classic.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 20:25:37 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Thanks for reposting the link to the interview with Richard. I notice different things every time I read it. The exchange about clairvoyance is interesting; not only because of Robbie's latest album but also because of how it ties to Richard's great line, "After all this idle scheming, can't we have something to feel?"

I wish RAS had pursued the place of the church and its choir on him. Also his guitar playing; presumably he had to read passably will to earn his certificate from the conservatory. And did Richard play guitar all by feel there too. I also wish she'd pursued the Canadian angle, given how seriously the question, presumably asking himself so follow-up what-ifs that he hadn't thought about before.

And the thought that Richard really liked how "I could taste your hair" looked on the page. Recently there's been some newspaper articles about people who see numbers in colour, or who have similar oddities that link their senses. Maybe Richard was one of those?


Entered at Tue Apr 2 20:22:54 CEST 2013 from (70.53.46.47)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I walk into a room, look at that plastic switch on the wall, and wonder "Is today the day I will be kidnapped and seduced by a Hollywood producer?”


Entered at Tue Apr 2 19:40:34 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Joan, I walk into a room, look at that plastic switch on the wall, and wonder "What does that do?' before wondering why I went in there.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 19:35:21 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Ari

Ari, you are to young to have "senior moments".

I frequently walk into a room, turn on the light and ask myself " What did I come in here for" :-)


Entered at Tue Apr 2 18:27:41 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

Yossarian (Lars)

Location: A fish dream

Subject: Little Green Apples

Bill M.- That was Irving Washington.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 18:11:19 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

John D, the quotes are from the series of interviews Ruth Albert Spencer did with the boys in early 1985. I think they are key to understanding the problems underlying the mid-80's Band.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 17:59:26 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Fancy

"Fancy" is a song on my important playlist.

While on female singers, anyone who has seen Leonard Cohen will be interested in the new Webb Sisters EP, "When Will You Come Home?" It includes two versions of Show Me The Place.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 17:54:17 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Was he? I had no idea. Clearly an understanding and supportive child - unlike, say, Bobbie Gentry, who admitted in "Fancy" that she never went back to visit Mama.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 17:47:14 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Isn't that The Son of Hickory Hollow's Tramp?


Entered at Tue Apr 2 17:45:02 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Washington Irving - great songwriter! I always liked "Hickory Hollow's Tramp". By the way, who created "Little Green Apples"?


Entered at Tue Apr 2 16:51:16 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Tarrytown

May the spirit of Washington Irving be with you!


Entered at Tue Apr 2 14:32:49 CEST 2013 from (76.124.39.182)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: not far fron The Keswick Theatre

Subject: Songs of The Band

Last November I was shocked and amazed that Jimmy Vivino's labor of love, Songs of The Band was playing a one-off show, right in my neighborhood. I'd been to 3-4 Rambles a year in Woodstock since 2004, as well as catching Beacon shows and Road Rambles in Phila, Tulsa and Baltimore. One time, when my wife and I finally got our dear friend, Sharon to join us on the 200 mile run to The Barn, we were treated to a special night of the songs that Richard sang, courtesy of the sincerity and fire that burns within Jimmy V. This cat has a reverence for this stuff that is unequaled and unselfish. So, when The Keswick show was announced, I got myself one great seat, feeling badly that my wife couldn't weasel out of work that night and join me. Byron Isaacs on bass, Jimmy Weider on guitar and Rando on drums made for an excellent lineup that knew the material and the history. They had a thunderous start, with Crash On the Levee/Shape I'm In, and they were off, mining the whole range from the expected big hits, to Rockin' Chair, Acapulco and We Can Talk. A beautiful mix of songs they loved. I hoped they would do Jimmy's very touching rendition of Whispering Pines (as we'd seen at the Richard Ramble). They sure did. At the time I saw this show, I posted somewhat tongue in cheek, that they performed "Guestbook Favorites" Strawberry Wine and The Moon Struck One. But they also played Jawbone, Caledonia Mission, Time To Kill. Jimmy on MC duty, told a little history and they only strayed from "the first four albums" format for It Makes No Difference, sung by Maud. At the end of the first set, Garth took The Genetic Method all over the place on the historic 80-some year old pipe organ. I was breathless and struck by my incredible good fortune to witness this event, with a real "church was good tonight" feeling. I told my wife later that if they ever did something like this again, we'd have to attend at any reasonable cost in time, effort or manipulation ("Uh,sorry boss, but my dog is really, really sick and I can't possibly come in to work today). Well on my wife's birthday, and Levon's anniversary, April 19th, we're going to make a trip to Tarrytown and she can get to visit this sacred place, musically speaking.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 14:28:08 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pat B / Richard Manuel Quote

Thank you for the quotes; from Richard Manuel. I have never seen nor read them before. Very sobering thoughts; from a rather troubled soul. I had to scroll way back to find it and was well worth it. Where was that quote taken from again?


Entered at Tue Apr 2 14:25:58 CEST 2013 from (108.200.221.149)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: The Path

Peter, I don't think that anyone has an issue with Garth playing the songs of the Band. That was never the issue. I think everyone here (including Jeff) has stated that they celebrate it. The problem is the way Adam's question was originally worded (and this isn't a criticism of Adam….a lot of things that I post don't always come out the way that I may have intended them to), and the written word doesn't always provide the requisite inflection or immediate follow-up that the question may have had, were we actually sitting around a bar or coffee-shop in person).

It was a question (as it was originally worded) that was impossible to answer, and had a hint of the typical smack-down of the 80's and 90's Band that is sometimes common sport around here. The type of criticism that may keep new fans like Anthony reluctant to join in.

I may be more liberal than others when it comes to allowing an artist freedom to make the choices that they make. I may not agree with all of the choices, and occasionally might yearn for something more, but I believe that it's a process….not always linear…that all artists must follow to create. Not everything will be a masterpiece, but I feel that you have to respect the process that gets them to those peaks….even though there will be some valleys (stealing Pat's nomenclature here). In Levon's case it ultimately led to 3 Grammy awards (admittedly with the 3rd one being a live performance heavy on Band classics). But had Levon done 3 live albums all chock full of Band classics, it's unlikely that he would have been recognized with the industry's highest honor 3 times, for repeating the same thing over and over. (as much as it may have pleased many fans who may have bought tickets to live shows).

Could the 80's and 90's Band have done a more varied set-list? Certainly, but that was not the original question.
Is that what needed or what was possible to be done at the time? Perhaps. But I don;'t think it's my place as a fan to dictate what I think the choices should be (even if I don't always agree with them). There's an alchemy that occurs among creative people, and I think it's not always apparent looking from the outside looking in. But the road did lead to a marvelous final chapter for Levon, and I feel it's not my place to question how he got there.

By the way, when Amy introduced 'Little Birds' the other night in Norfolk, CT, she said that this is a song that my Grandfather taught to my father who then taught it to me. The performance itself was a little slice of heaven on earth. Now Amy may have urged Levon to make an album along that vein, and shepherded it through the process along with Larry, and they both deserve a lot of credit for recognizing that……but I think they'd both be the first to admit that the process began long before their time. Not many people may know this, but prior to his own resurgence, Levon was very instrumental in helping guide Ollabelle in the making of their first album.

Sidenote: I took four new people with me the other night to see Amy Helm, and I tried to explain the Levon Helm connection to them and all of his past glories. They were only mildly familiar with him until I mentioned his acting career, and they all new him from some of the movies that he'd been in, and all agreed that he was a talented character actor with remarkable skill. Could those experiences have been part of the process, or a path that needed to be followed as well? Perhaps.

Ultimately I think it's a win for fans of all eras. The folks who enjoyed the Band in in 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, and Levon's Ramble era, along with the projects that Garth, Robbie, Rick and Richard contributed to. Beatles fans should have been so lucky to have output from so many original members for such a long time.

Kevin J, no issue here, and I agree with the pitfalls of posting from a wireless device. I sometime try to post from an iPhone, and it never quite comes out the way I wanted it to.

BEG, I don't have contact info for Crabgrass, but there may be a way to contact him through his YouTube page.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 13:03:24 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

That's good. 100% approval then. Enjoy the show.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 10:47:53 CEST 2013 from (173.3.48.15)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Peter

Peter. Who is the one in your "all but one...."

I did not notice anyone who thought the SOB show would be less than great. Could your GB have a poster mine doesn't?

Maybe i better read through the posts, and if i see that ignorant son of a gun you describe, i'll straighten him or her out. Are you sure you didn't just dream this poster up?

I'm likely gone for 24 to 32 hours, but if you point this person out to me, i'll give him or her a good talking to soon as i can. maybe i'll even buy them a ticket to the show, show em how wrong they are..


Entered at Tue Apr 2 09:49:28 CEST 2013 from (117.26.223.67)

Posted by:

Snapback Hats

Web: My link

Subject: Snapback Caps

l like the guestbook


Entered at Tue Apr 2 08:44:21 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: (Said it all before, but …)

So all but one agree with Adam that Garth Hudson playing the songs of The Band with people who were in, or closely associated with the Band is a great event, and that may there be many more of them. There is a consensus too that it’s good to dig deeper into The Band’s catalogue than the 80s or 90s Band did.

Dirt Farmer was a superb return to form, and I got the impression we have Amy Helm and Larry Campbell to thank for the track selection. As soon as the accolades begin to flow though, you get Stuff You Gotta Watch back on Electric Dirt, and I assume that left to his own devices, the blues stuff would be first choice. In some ways, it’s a restoration of Levon & The Hawks … Ronnie thought they were getting too far into blues … rather than The Band. The Dylan / Basement era that turned Robbie, Richard and to a lesser extent, Rick, into songwriters happened in Levon’s absence. His voice, personality and musicianship were the vital missing element in the jigsaw, but he retained that issue about not being a songwriter … and he wasn’t. Which is why you get credits to everyone who played on a song.

In the 90s Band, there was always going to be sensitivity about doing “Richard’s songs” (i.e. the ones he sang lead on). That didn’t stop them doing Chest Fever or The Shape I’m In, and actually Rick could sound so close that the Holy Cow debate existed. But they may have felt weird touching them. Even so, the list of songs they called were always too short, and too predictable. That’s not just a 90s Band feature. It goes right back to the original Band, and the 1971 tour is the last time out for some great songs:. Hollywood Bowl had Look Out Cleveland, King Harvest, Jemima Surrender, Rocking Chair, Time To Kill, Strawberry Wine, I Shall Be Released, This Wheel’s On Fire. OK, factor in sensitivity about Richard leads, but couldn’t the 90s Band have done Jemima Surrender and Strawberry Wine? They were Levon’s two writing credits. And This Wheel’s On Fire must have been their third highest (or even highest) profile song in the Ab Fab era. And whatever the issues, never doing Dixie was daft.

In the 90s I thought the show was balanced to too much Levon, not enough Rick time after time. A lot of this may be reliability and effort, just as after 1971 they lessened Richard’s s input on stage. In the 90s when we used to swap tapes, I heard so many Band tapes, and the set was 90% fixed in stone. The joy was finding one different song. Compare Dylan, Van Morrison, Neil Young who all roam all over their catalogues.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 07:27:01 CEST 2013 from (180.249.54.25)

Posted by:

fadli

Location: Indonesia
Web: My link

Subject: sixpack

aww amaxing for us to do it


Entered at Tue Apr 2 06:49:02 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Todd: When I was a kid I was fascinated to see international leaders on TV using interpreters to conduct business when it was quite obvious that in many cases they could speak a common language.........my Father explained to me what a benefit the interpreters were in allowing the people to take some time to think before responding...........fast forward to today and the GB, I think of the IPAD as an anti-interpreter in a way in that I find myself sometimes reading and responding too quickly.............I got you....and your point about the rambles era makes sense.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 06:22:17 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Serenitty: Always post. I always read them

re: songbook: I thouhgt we were doing 100 songs...


Entered at Tue Apr 2 05:14:49 CEST 2013 from (180.253.242.242)

Posted by:

Donnie

Web: My link

nice band, thanks :D


Entered at Tue Apr 2 04:35:55 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: MUSIC NEWS...

Hi guys, hope your holiday was a good one..

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You may like to see these people on TV..

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Jimmy Fallon has Gordon Lightfoot on Wednesday..

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Austin City Limits

Episode: Bonnie Raitt; Mavis Staples

(First Aired: Oct. 20, 2012)

Bonnie Raitt presents songs from ``Slipstream''; Mavis Staples performs songs from ``You Are Not Alone'' as well as Staples Singers classics.

11:30 - 12:30 AMWNED PBS (15)

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I'm starting to feel like a stranger here..No one seems to care,or maybe no one is interested in what I post. [Boo Hoo!!] The other posts and links are great, and I thank you all for taking the time to share them...

Until next time [maybe] LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


Entered at Tue Apr 2 04:22:20 CEST 2013 from (174.252.38.10)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Kevin, my most recent post was about about Levon's direction in the more recent Ramble era where he experienced a critical and popular resurgence, which may not have happened had he only played Band songs. At least that's my opinion.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 04:22:25 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

I kinda got hung up on the 'seduced and kidnapped' bit, myself, now, eh what?


Entered at Tue Apr 2 03:36:56 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Well said Ari.......you and Adam are the future of this crazy little bar.......and in that vein, do please remember to tell your bouncers in the future to bar Tug boat captains - will ya?

Todd....the complaint people have been making about Levon was not that he wouldn't play Band songs - it was that from 1978 onwards with him fully in charge the list of songs he did draw upon was so predictable and uniimaginative that the Band came to resemble a plodding oldies act that was far far away from the creative genius that was the Band......Thank God for Jimmy V and his respect for the full and beautiful catalogue......Just too bad that so many years went by - especially years when Richard and Rick were still alive and playing as the Band that a more diverse set list was not played and celebrated..........


Entered at Tue Apr 2 03:26:10 CEST 2013 from (66.65.92.140)

Posted by:

Ari

Last thing: Heard Fear of Falling in Duane Reade today. That was weird.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 03:04:31 CEST 2013 from (66.65.92.140)

Posted by:

Ari

I mean Cinema Village.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 03:00:20 CEST 2013 from (66.65.92.140)

Posted by:

Ari

I'm seeing Garth and Jimmy on the 19th for my birthday with my two younger brothers. We're very excited but I gotta admit I'm looking forward even more so to seeing Ain't In It For My Health at the Quad Cinema the next day. I personally don't care too much about hearing my favorite musicians play my favorite songs just because they haven't played it in awhile but of course if Robbie performed any song live from the first four Band albums I would be ecstatic. I also get a kick out of when Robbie or Garth mention their ex-Bandmates or reflect on anything in relation to The Band. The other day I saw Robbie wrote that he listened to the first albums with his son and thought of Richard Manuel. That made me happy. I also love when Sebastian posts in here. That to me is really really cool. I actually think it would be even less cool if Robbie were the one at the keyboard. Leaves a bit of mystery.

I remember listening to interview Robbie did with some radio station during his press tour for HTBC and at the end of of the interview the host asked him a series of rapid-fire questions. One of them was "Lennon or McCartney" to which Robbie quickly answered, Lennon. But the best part was when he asked "Song you've written you're most proud of...GO!" Robbie quickly answered. "Rag Mama Rag". The radio host had the same reaction I did, you could here him turning to his buddies in the room, totally stoked that Robbie gave him a REAL answer and just saying off-mic "Oh awesome!" That was pretty. Apologies my thoughts are really disorganized. For some reason I just start typing and forget why I even decided to write something down in the first place.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 02:32:03 CEST 2013 from (99.141.57.209)

Posted by:

Adam

I would also like to state that the show IS so wonderful because it IS a Garth Hudson featured show. The joy is seeing Garth, the master musician who The Band all looked up to, reinterpret and revisit these amazing songs. And he can take them a thousand different ways. The show is built around showcasing Garth, and he can play totally different things on different songs on any night.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 01:41:12 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria

Subject: Resting on his Laurels - not Levon Helm's style

From what I can see from the post-Band time, Levon Helm never rested on his laurels and became an 'oldies' (dredge it up again) act. I agree, Todd. The bands of the 80s and 90s and then the new material that was recognized by the Grammy bunch is testament to an artist who continued to grow in the face of many controversies and then ultimately health issues. I will always consider Levon Helm an artist who continued to create and hone his art.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 01:32:19 CEST 2013 from (108.200.223.117)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: The Songs

Well, they did have some wonderful songs, and I think it's great that Garth is getting out there and playing them. I just wish it would happen more often.

This is just my personal opinion, but I think that Levon made a very conscious effort to not play Band songs when he started the Rambles, and during the last chapter of his life. As Jeff has mentioned it was at Jimmy V's urging that Band songs eventually got included, and obviously helped with ticket sales.....especially on the Road Rambles. In a live setting, longtime fans are always going to want to hear some of the classics.

But as obstinate as it may have seemed to some, for Levon to resist relying on the classics, I give him (and Amy) a lot of credit for forging ahead in a slightly different direction. This is the effort that resulted in the Dirt Farmer project netting Levon his first Grammy award as well as producing music very near and dear to his heart. If he had simply relied on Band songs from the get-go, we may have never had that wonderful project, as well as Electric Dirt. Sometimes you have to give something up to gain something else, and I think that Levon must have intuitively realized that.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 01:03:25 CEST 2013 from (99.141.57.209)

Posted by:

Adam

Thanks again to everyone for the support. I think my original post was just very misunderstood by some. As has been very well explained, seeing The Band with Robbie, or reunion lineups with Richard, Rick and Levon, was never an option that was available to me. I fully understand that seeing Richard sing "King Harvest" in 1983, or Rick sing "Caledonia Mission" in 1993, was seeing those musicians in the flesh and could not be equalled, surpassed or even compared in the same way with seeing this show in 2013.

You have to remember the generatons of us young folks, though. I came into being a fan during Levon Helm's Midnight Ramble success, Robbie's return to solo work and Garth's emerging solo career. Now that all three voices of The Band have passed, seeing Garth lead this show in his role as musical director, celebrating a rich catalogue of musical history, while incorporating new musicians into the story, has been truly special.

These shows are the closest I, and many others, will ever get to that same feeling seeing The Band in any incarnation. What is so special about this show is how the musicians elevate the music beyond themselves. They are honoring the originals, continuing the spirit of Richard, Rick and Levon, and carrying the music into the future.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 00:17:39 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Ah! But it's the Great AMERICAN songbook, and Ewan MacColl is therefore disqualified. Sorry, it's getting late.


Entered at Tue Apr 2 00:16:25 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Excellent list, Dunc. I have the James Last somewhere.

I would have taken "First Time Ever I Saw your Face" by Roberta Flack. It's said Ewan MacColl loathed her version passionately, and liked the Ian Campbell Folk Group version. I found that, and it's truly dire … taken fast and jaunty.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 23:25:39 CEST 2013 from (67.71.1.203)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

First Montreal Bookstore closing and now in Toronto.

I tried to get tickets to "Motown" the musical but sold out the week I'll be in NYC.

Thanks Todd. I know that Tony is still taking absolutely amazing photographs and videos....but I don't have a current phone number or email to get in touch.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 22:51:17 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Todd, understood and agree. I think Adam's further point is that he, like Garth, has an affinity for the OQ's songbook (if Garth's tribute to The Band CD can be considered evidence).


Entered at Mon Apr 1 22:34:59 CEST 2013 from (108.200.223.117)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Pat, I get that, but my point is that seeing the original quintet was not an option that was available to me. So I made the best choice that I could at the time....just like Adam is doing now.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 22:08:05 CEST 2013 from (81.159.31.234)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Criterion

You've got to have the track in your collection and play it.Here's a start. Think of standards.

An evening with Barry Manilow singing The American Song Book at Caesar's Palace, Las Vegas.

Mr Tambourine Man - Dylan/Byrds

Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow - Carol King

For Once In My Life - Stevie Wonder

Do You Believe In Magic - Loving Spoonful

Carolina in My Mind - James Taylor

The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down - James Last(only joking but I read it's difficult to get a song on a James Last album)

Rainy Night In Georgia - Tony Joe White

I'm Your Puppet - Dan Penn and Spooner Oldham

Killing Me Softly With His Song - Robera Flack

Sitting at the Dock of the Bay - Otis Redding

My Guy - Mary wells

I Think It's Going To Rain Today - Randy Newman

Don't It MakeNy Brown Eyes Blue - Crystal Gale

Thousands of tracks left off.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 22:07:04 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Gentryfied

Like so much that starts out raw- Bill M - Mr. Wilson took skunk cabbage gentryfied it. Sounds like something is 'owed' and should be paid.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 22:05:59 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Todd, yes, I saw one of the world's great bands in their original form five times. I also just about every reunited version. I've never encountered anyone who would argue that the reunions were on par with the original. That's not a slap at the reunions. That's a recognition of how magnificent the original truly was. And I'm not such a cheerleader that I don't recognize the peaks and valleys of the OQ.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 21:33:36 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Eau de Billie Jo

JT: Your post reminds me of one of the funnier bits I heard a DJ deliver - J. Michael Wilson on CHUM AM circa 1969. Over the intro to "Poke Salad Annie", and in an accent along the lines of Tony Joe White's, he said something like, "Way down south there's a plant that grows. Real name is skunk cabbage, but we all call it eau de Billie Jo." Still makes me smile.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 21:22:46 CEST 2013 from (174.252.38.10)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Bill, good luck with the house sale. It appears that the market is improving somewhat and becoming more of a sellers market. So, with any luck, you'll get more offers. It took us 8 months to sell ours, but that was last year. My patience was starting to wear thin at about the 6 month mark. Ultimately we had to lower our asking price.

Peter, Lincoln was a fun fellow, but I tried to keep the comparison to a Hawks era President and our current Commander in Chief.

Kevin J, thanks for the reminder about the Replacements doc. That's still on my radar, but I haven't seen it yet.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 21:11:28 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Eau de Toilet

Presidents and precedents- we sure have come a long way since Crang Plaza. We are 'flush' with ideas.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 21:00:11 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: House prices & record collecting

A couple of months back I was in two of my local record stores the same day. Both sell "Record Collector" which does an eBay / auction watch every month. An original Vertigo copy of the first Black Sabbath album had just gone at auction for £620. One shop had a pristine copy on the wall at £30, the other had one at £20. They had cheaper copies in lesser condition too. I asked if they were going to raise the price in the light of Record Collector. One guy said, "I've got three copies. I had three copies a year ago. People don't appear to be fighting to get them."


Entered at Mon Apr 1 20:55:30 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Todd, can I take Abraham Lincoln ahead of JFK? And I'm getting concerned over FDR v Obama. It's a hell of a job choosing where to put the X on the ballot paper.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 20:53:54 CEST 2013 from (72.230.111.23)

Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Don't you let that deal go down, or let's make a deal

Tod - you've sort of summed up one of my philosophies of life. Took me a long time to get there, though. Speaking strictly about house-selling( though I love your analogy) - my house, where I've lived for 20 + years, has been on the market for almost 2 months. A few lookers and a few nibbles,one real offer but not one I could take. . Spring is kicking in and I anticipate some real action. I look at it this way : I can have hundreds of people come in and look, but only one counts. I'm awaiting that one........


Entered at Mon Apr 1 20:35:58 CEST 2013 from (108.223.61.71)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Then & Now

To answer Adam's question, illustrates the difficulty of dealing with hypotheticals.

"would you rather attend a reunited The Band & Friends concert in the '80s or '90s, or catch this amazing lineup with the legendary Garth Hudson, playing material that hasn't been seen onstage since 1971 or earlier (in many cases, never)."

Seeing the 1980's and 1990's Band (or the original quintet in the 1970's) isn't really an option as of March 31st, 2013. So there really is only one practical answer to that question. It would be like asking who would you rather have as President of the United States? John F. Kennedy or Barack Obama? The JFK choice isn't an option…..he wasn't on the ballot.

That said, I share Adam's enthusiasm that this current group is coming together to honor and pay respect by teaming up with Garth and pulling some nuggets out of the vault that have not been performed live in many years, or in many cases, never. I still remember what a thrill it was to hear Jimmy Vivino sing 'Tears of Rage' at the first sold out Road Ramble concert at the Beacon theater. Just watching Levon play drums on that was an amazing experience for me. But I can also see Jeff's point of view that it would be a little uncomfortable to pose the same question to Garth or Jimmy or the other guys. There is a way to keep moving forward (which they are doing) while still respecting the past, and that, I think, is the balance that needs to be maintained.

But Adam's original question, as it was worded, seems to be comparing seeing a "lineup" (80's and/ or 90's Band), with the "material" that this current assemblage of musicians including Garth will play. I suppose the best answer to the question is "both". I'd like to see the 'Songs of the Band' concert with Garth, the 80's and 90's Band, AND while we're dealing with the impossible, the Original Quintet…..may as well even throw the Hawks in there to complete the experience! But I've always been a greedy bastard.

Over the past two years I had been involved with the buying of one house and the selling of another. In the sluggish real estate market that we've had here in the US for the past 4 or 5 years, it wasn't an easy process. At one point during negotiations, I was finding it difficult to make a decision and wondering if a better deal would come along. The best peace of advice that my realtor gave me, was that you have to consider the deal that is in front of you at the moment. Applying that advice to the "Songs of the Band" vs. previous configurations, makes it pretty clear that there is only one choice at this point in time.

Pat has asked a similar question in the past regarding the 80's and 90's Band vs. the original Quintet. His answer was always the original quintet which makes perfect sense for him……he was around for both. From my point of view, I was too young in the 1970's to see the original quintet, so I enjoyed the heck out of the experiences that I had seeing The Band in the 80's and 90's. I chose the deal that was on the table in front of me at the time. Just as Adam is doing now.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 20:18:09 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

The criterion for a song to be considered a standard is one that has become part of the repertoire of a great many performers. It has to go beyond the original, or definitive performance. Of all The Band songs, "The Weight" most closely fits that definition.

As defined by Webster's New World College Dicitionary: "A piece of popular music that continues to be included in the repertoire of many bands, singers, etc, through the years."


Entered at Mon Apr 1 19:59:39 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

In the eyes of the Band, this would no doubt be the ultimate classic from the American Standard catalogue.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 19:58:23 CEST 2013 from (24.105.216.125)

Posted by:

Lil

Joan: Too funny. I was in fact looking in here earlier to see what joke Jan posted this year.. and didn't see anything. I did happen upon Adam's post (which I found nothing wrong with) and the subsequent replies to that post. You may be right. It's just crazy enough to be the work of Jan :-)


Entered at Mon Apr 1 19:35:10 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

OK, let's call it a "Thirteen standards" because it would be insane to leave out Hotel California (having heard it sung by a Japanese girl in a piano bar shows its range!), or to leave out Proud Mary. And at my son's wedding, where they had a great band who could do anything from The Clash to Country, it was Billie Jean that got EVERYONE up and dancing and demanding a repeat.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 19:31:20 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

It just occurred to me. Maybe this whole conversation is Jan's April fools joke. :-)


Entered at Mon Apr 1 19:24:27 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: It's true that a large subset of the current population of the anglosphere will go through the remainder of the lives feeling the chills whenever "Hotel California" is played. But looking at the bright side, it's not made for singalongs so should fade away as quickly as, say, "Billie Jean". Come to think of it, what do young people do even today for a campfire - sit in a circle and watch the fireplace channel on their iPhones?


Entered at Mon Apr 1 19:15:49 CEST 2013 from (173.3.48.15)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Peter, when something is part of the question in play, you can't say it's not the point. It is the point, it was a major part of the question. Of course, removing the essence does take the discussion away from what the discussion actually should be about. You want to take the 80s and 90s Band out of the question because the voices are silenced and you can't go to see them anymore . well, the 80s and 90s Band was half of Adam's question. The question was :" The question always comes into mind: would you rather attend a reunited The Band & Friends concert in the '80s or '90s, or catch this amazing lineup with the legendary Garth Hudson, playing material that hasn't been seen onstage since 1971 or earlier (in many cases, never). " So how can you say " The point is that I’m not going to see Bach lead the Brandenburg Concertos, and we’re not going to see the original Band, nor three of them in any configuration."

You want to take a Bach led performance out of the picture because he's dead, and 80s and 90s Band performances out cause the 3 voices are silenced. . Well, you brought the BAch possibiltiy in as an analogy. You can' remove it. My issue was that the question was in bad taste. Now you want to remove half the question because the voices are silenced. Well, those voices were part of the question. And the fact that they are are silenced is part of the main proponent of why i think the question is in bad taste. In essence, what you have aimed to do is make the discussion about something it is not by removing half the question. You are not logically extending the thought, you are removing the essence of the argument. That is okay, as long as people reading realize it.

You say “None of the three voices of King Harvest are left, but the song is. I’d love to hear it.” Wanting to hear King harvest, has nothing to do with anyone asking would you rather go to a show that has Richard singing it with the 80s band, which he did, or Vivino singing it with Songs Of the Band..Wanting to hear King Harvest is wanting to hear King Harvest. Being asked the other question, is in very bad taste.

Re King Harvest, The Band smoked it at the Original Lone Star. There was a three night stand with Richard where they burned everything in sight.

There is a weaker Band performance they did in tokyo in 83 that i guess most people have seen.

Good day folks.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 18:57:28 CEST 2013 from (70.53.46.47)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Jimi James

RR at the EC Crossroads festival......."Axman" with participation from EC and Jeff Beck would be nice.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 18:54:08 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Adam

Hey ladies and gents! Adam strikes me as a refreshingly cool young man and I credit his interviews and reviews for turning me on to Songs of The Band.In fact,my wife and I are considering staying at a nearby hotel to catch the show in Tarrytown.BTW,anyone ever been there who can tell me about the music hall--the sound quality,the area,etc.?


Entered at Mon Apr 1 18:43:04 CEST 2013 from (70.53.46.47)

Posted by:

Kevin J

North America Standards………Just went for a walk to the bank and it hit me that a couple from The Eagles are already there ( in the “standards” category that is….not the bank! )……..anyone who has travelled the world knows, in fact, that “Hotel California” and any number from John Fogerty far surpass anything from any other North American songwriter……….Michael Jackson is an interesting one in that his fame is massive – the true definition of a global superstar and yet his hit songs would seem unlikely to me to pass from generation to generation…….”Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough” though could become more and more prophetic as people live longer and interest rates continue to be kept low…….

John D: Love that story……….not sure why but it also reminded me of the late great Rollie….and his journey to TLW….What a spirit he was.

PV: I was at HMV on Saturday and confess to also picking up and putting down the new Hendrix. As a kid my brother had a poster of his face on his bedroom wall......a wicked guitar player we all know but such a striking look he had as well. Still works apparantly.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 18:21:58 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Yeah, right. Anytime someone begins a biblical allegory about The Band with, "A man has 5 wives. One is seduced and kidnapped by a Hollywood producer and the bright lights when she was 16 years old," you just know its relevance will be undeniable.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 18:11:56 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The point is that I’m not going to see Bach lead the Brandenburg Concertos, and we’re not going to see the original Band, nor three of them in any configuration..

I found the “deeper catalogue” points interesting too, even if everyone except one person was mentioned as being likely to have wanted to go deeper into the original catalogue in the 90s, but no one ever said who didn’t. And they didn’t. None of the three voices of King Harvest are left, but the song is. I’d love to hear it.

Standing outside the Cambridge Corn Exchange 1995. Great soundcheck going on … I was outside, Lee G was inside, but even through the door it sounded fantastic. I didn’t realize until I was told later that I was listening to just three of The Band: Messrs Bell, Weider and Ciarlante. The originals were taking their afternoon nap. I think Jim and Randy are also entitled to great respect, having devoted what is for most people the peak creative time of their careers to The Band.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 18:05:34 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

John D: Great story! The Sam's guy sounds like the guy on the second floor. In the '70s he was the guy I'd end up going to whenever I found an unpriced item on the 3rd (99 cent) floor. He would always oblige by printing 99 on the jacket in magic marker. I had no reason to interact with him otherwise until the '90s, when I was really keen on finding out if Sam's had a Nina Simone album with her awesome version of "Sinnerman". I remember being terribly impressed (and have told numerous people over the years) with the fact that he not only knew they didn't, but also knew that they did have two other versions of the song - one was by the King Family Singers and the other I forget entirely. For the record, I have three versions of the song - Nina Simone's and two much lesser ones: one by Terry Black (his first record, from '64) and one by Jerry Doucette's first group, the Reefers from '66. As a hot-shot guitarist in Hamilton, Doucette would most certainly have been influenced by Robbie.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 18:00:26 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Sebastian, nice to see you check in here again. I think Adam would be a great choice to interview your dad...? ...just sayin'. :)


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:56:30 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

I would love to be at that Tarrytown, NY concert with Garth/Jimmy V and co, but logistics will make it impossible. Still hopeful though that they will bring the show "way down south" to NYC sometime.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:52:06 CEST 2013 from (173.3.48.15)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Actually Bill, it occurred to me i was a little incorrect the first time around. For the sake of accuracy, you stated whioh guys ( and that was most, really all save Levon) you thought MIGHT have gone for playing the older material.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:25:57 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Motown & Berry Gordy

Berry Gordy the founder of Motown is bringing the Motown story to Broadway. He was interviewed yesterday morning on the CBS show, Sunday Morning. It was a revealing interview. He said he didn't want to sign kids; but signed Stevie Wonder only because he liked his harmonica playing. He thought that Michael Jackson was a genius; from the time of his childhood. He said that Michael was always studying him; even at that young age.

His great love for Diana Ross. His explanation of a particular night, I thought, took guts for a guy to talk about. But hey he's 80 now. Why not? Finally really not wanting Marvin Gaye to release "What's Going On." He felt it too political and might hurt his career. Marvin said he didn't care. Marvin had a brother in Vietnam. Berry said he had never been so wrong about a record and boy was he glad he was wrong. Became one of the biggest hits that Motown had ever had. I'd like to see this play; when it opens.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:17:01 CEST 2013 from (173.3.48.15)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Regarding Bill’s and Peter’s posts. Since I entered The GB, there has been no bigger or more constant promoter of Vivino’s talent , shows, bands, or (his) support for Levon, than I. I also was the poster who explained, in as much detail as I was comfortable, that & how Jimmy was the person responsible for getting Levon to play Band songs again. I got it from Jimmy himself. One of the conversations took place in The Red Lion. I remember it and where we were standing when it took place. What I wrote has nothing to do with the quality of the S. O. B. show. It has to do with the good taste, or lack there of, of the question Adam asked. It would be interesting to ask Vivino Adam’s question, ” would you rather attend a reunited The Band & Friends concert in the '80s or '90s, or catch this amazing lineup with the legendary Garth Hudson, playing material that hasn't been seen onstage since 1971 or earlier (in many cases, never ).” And to get his response. And it would have been more interesting to ask it before this brou haha. Vivino has respect for the dead, and I doubt he would forget that Rick, Richard, and Levon are originators of the music he is playing with Garth, another originator, and that they are dead. I think he would have found the question absurd and that it might have made him uncomfortable. Sure, S. O. B. is now playing material that was out of play. And sure, they are keeping the legacy alive. That’s not the issue. The issue was the question in good or poor taste. Situations you do not pose.

Bill. You brought up that in the past, the old material was not getting mined, played, and that you think that most of the guys would have wanted to perform it. And were capable of that. Of course, I do Not Disagree with that. but, then , you must consider the reverse- can anyone imagine asking Jimmy or anyone if they rather Levon was alive and that material not being performed, or Levon dead, and S. O.B. performing the material…….No thought stands alone. Every thought reasonably brings others into play.

Peter. Since you brought Bach and The Brandenburg Concertos into play in the manner you did, relative to the question I objected to, would you prefer to see a Bach lead performance of The Brandenburg Concertos, or would you prefer to see a performance by a great current ensemble? You brought it up. My question to you is a fair question. And for your intent, obviously it’s essentially the same question. …and no Peter, I did not refer to S. O.B. as a cover band. And no, I did not state that the S.O.B. show is an insult to the memory of The Band. My issue was the question.

No one has responded to my analogy to a family, and asking the question of the cousins ( audience) going to visit the new family. Of course, I doubted anyone would acknowledge it because the validity of the comparison is undeniable.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:13:55 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Right. I avoided Bruce because I couldn't see Born to Run in 2131, and by then Born In The USA will probably be in Spanish.

Can I change Good Vibrations to God Only Knows? I can't see anyone else doing Good Vibrations either.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:11:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I love "It's a long way from Port Dover to Malibu" … thanks, John.

Sorry, Dunc and Dlew, saw the "D" and didn't read the rest of the line.

Kevin: That new Jimi Hendrix one did hit the shops today. I picked it up, and thought, 'No …' and bought the Harper Simon instead.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:10:27 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

....oh.....and of course Bob Dylan........as fine a songwriter as Bruce Springsteen is can anyone really imagine a church choir singing "Born to Run" in 100 years? dlew.........Enter Sandman and Apirl Fools........a connection? "Born to be Wild" might be the heavy one that lasts..........My guess is the only thing from Metalica that makes it to 100 is that little drummer......no doubt he will still be alive and talking and talking 100 years from now.....


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:04:32 CEST 2013 from (99.244.253.166)

Posted by:

John D

Location: Toronto

Subject: Garth

Much has been written about Garth. As some of you may know, I did not meet The Band; until they actually became "The Band." I was a little too young to see The Hawks. Whenever they would come to town, I would usually get together with Levon; in his hotel room.

However it was the media parties that interests me for this posting. Garth would for the most part be absent; from them. When I would ask one of the boys where he was I would usually get the following answer. "He's either in his room having a nap; or he's in his room practicing; or he's out having a long walk." It was the latter that was usually true; as he liked to walk around whenever he came home.

One day; after The Band CSN concert there was a media party for members of the media and friends and Lo and Behold there was Garth. It would be for me the first time I would engage him in conversation; after 6 years of first meeting him. Two things come to mind.

Garth asked me if I remembered an employee at Sam The Record Man; who had a special talent that Garth really liked. Anyone who knows Garth will see why Garth thought so highly of him. Garth informed me that this guy was really a savant. If you went in and asked him about any album in the store (and there were thousands) he could actually tell you the letters and numbers on the spine of the record jacket. He knew them all. Garth found this fascinating. Finally; perhaps my favourite line; from Garth that day; which I have never forgotten is the following. When I said to him (in my rather sloppy way) "Garth this has really been some journey for you guys; hasn't it?" He thought for a moment and simply said, "John. It's a long way from Port Dover to Malibu." That said it all.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:01:18 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

In answer to Adam's question I would say that I got to see the reformed Band with the Cate Brothers in the '80s and I also got to see Rick & Levon on their "living room tour." Both times everyone was in good form. I'm sure Garth and Jimmy Vivino will put on a great concert, but I would still choose those concerts I mentioned, where I got to hear Richard, Rick and Levon sing, up close in a small club. That said, I got to hear the original quintet twice in the '70s and still cherish the memories. Seeing the reformed group later, even on a good night, I realized that there wasn't that same magic they had with Robbie.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 17:00:53 CEST 2013 from (81.159.31.234)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: List

That's Dlewie's list, Peter. I'm going to think about this carefully.

Weather has been cold on top of three wet summers. Eighth person tragically killed this winter in our small, Arctic mountains at the weekend. Puts things into pespective.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 16:56:43 CEST 2013 from (74.198.9.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

.....remember that 100 years from now isn't really that much of a stretch as it has been close 50 years for some of our favorite rock/pop songs already!

100 years from now classic rock radio will still be playing Jimi Hendrix and the Jimi Hendrix estate will be breathless in announcing a new album is on the way because new tapes have just been discovered in a vault......The public will believe it too.............any list of standards now and in 100 years would have to have Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Paul Simon, Chuck Berry, Sam Cooke and Marvin Gaye.........I would always vote for RR but these lists are always anti-Band......remember that Richard Manuel didn't even make Rolling Stone's list of Top 100 rock singers!


Entered at Mon Apr 1 16:55:23 CEST 2013 from (203.78.119.96)

Posted by:

karnaval it

Location: jakarta
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Entered at Mon Apr 1 16:17:46 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: (North)American

I have to add to your excellent list: (I know it has to be 10 but I count badly) " I Only Have Eyes for You (Flamingos or is it Flamingoes). I can't forget Suite Judy Blue Eyes (CSN) and Anthony's restaurant and Piano Man.(Billy Joel).


Entered at Mon Apr 1 15:32:35 CEST 2013 from (72.230.111.23)

Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Adam

Signed in on an April Fool's Day to see what's going on around here. I just played Get up Jake for my son Jake's birthday, who is 19 years young today. I'm fortunate to have seen the original Band a few times, the 80's Band with Richard a few times, and without Richard a few times. I saw the 90's Band several times, and I saw the Barnburners and the Gurus many times. Made it to 2 rambles, and saw the ramble on the road 4 times. Throw in a number of Professor Louie shows, 2 of them with Garth. Some of those shows were fantastic,others not so much. I like Joan's fruit salad analogy. I respect Adam - he's passionate and he acts on his passion. Jeff harps on many things re his post, and one of them is "respect". I think what Jimmy Vivino and company has been doing with Garth epitomizes respect for The Band's legacy. It can even be argued that they are respecting their legacy more than the many post OQ lineups did by virtue of digging deep into that well of music that they wouldn't even touch. I'll add that I don't know this but I believe that Weege&Rando( and Richard Bell)would have been more than happy to and beyond capable of going deep during those years. Perhaps even Rick and Garth would have happily gone there. Again, I don't know this. I love The Band, and I kept going to see/hear whatever combinations I could, and hope sometime to make it to one of those shows which Vivino has pulled together. But I saw a lot of lack of respect for The Band's legacy and place, from those who could have done something about it, long before Adam;s post. It's not a new topic.........


Entered at Mon Apr 1 15:13:45 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: A bitterly cold Easter Monday at home

First problem on your list, Dunc … I don’t know three of them at all: Enter Sandman, 99 Problems and Blitzkreig Bop. I’ll have a go later on YouTube though.

Just the ten? I also think “Great American Songbook” suggests a rule. They’re SONGS, so they have to be singable by other people. So, I’d take out Visions of Johanna, my ultimate favourite Dylan, because it’s too much a “Bob only” song. I’m with you on three: The Weight, You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling and I Heard It Through The Grapevine. If we’re going to get other people doing versions for centuries, I’m going to put Blowing In The Wind in there. It wouldn’t be on my personal favourite Dylan ten or twenty list, but it IS a standard. OK. Deep breath, and no reference allowed … it has to be straight off the top of the head, and I’m looking at longetivity and the songs as standards. I’m also going to suggest 1956 as a better start date (so I can get Summertime Blues in from 1958), and to make it easier, only one per writer.

No particular order:

1 The Weight

2 Blowing In The Wind

3 You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling

4 Summertime Blues

5 I Heard It Through The Grapevine

6 Bridge Over Troubled Water

7 Good Vibrations

8 Time After Time

9 Sisters of Mercy

10 Nadine



Entered at Mon Apr 1 15:02:33 CEST 2013 from (69.158.24.92)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sweet Jane...VU
The Weight...The Band
Like A Rolling Stone...Bob Dylan
Magic Carpet Ride...Steppenwolf

I loved the film "Once" when it first came out and I will be seeing this musical while in NYC soon, as well as Ballet Hispanico.

SEBASTIAN...Could you ask your father if he will be performing both nights at ERIC CLAPTON'S GUITAR FESTIVAL and report back. THANK YOU.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 14:52:12 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Your are correct for the most part, but I'll bet that if two guys in a lineup 120 years from now are arguing about the merits of the Rolling Stones, Keith Richards will still be around to set them straight.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 14:47:16 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: The Great American Songbook

Hi Peter: yes, but I think we can update it a bit... Let's make some arbittrary rules, and some ridiculous exclusions (otherwise, why do a list?):

From 1960 on

No musicals (they're well covered)

North American counts (so from Mexico tto Canada)

Songs must be relatively well-known (no 'B-sides of flops')

no more than three songs from any one composer or composing team

So, let's start

: 1) The Weight

2) Enter Sandman

3) 99 Problems

4) Born to be wild

5) Like a Rollin' Stone

6) TNTDODD

7) The River

8) Blitzkrieg Bop

9) You've lost that lovin' feeling

10) Heard it through the grape vine

A completely inarguable and non-controversial list... what would others add? Or subtract?


Entered at Mon Apr 1 13:50:21 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Great American Songbook refers to standards, very often from musicals or films. I guess we’re thinking of the classic archetypal American rock songs here. There are several hundred standards listed on Wiki as The Great American Songbook, and they’re listed under songwriters not performers. I don’t know where you’d start. Ace records’ songwriter series is as good a place as any, and they run to two or three volumes with most teams and pairs. Then you have the solo generation. I think however you cut a Top 100, there’d be at least a couple of Robbie Robertson songs in there (several more if I was compiling it). The Weight is the first one you’d choose, for history, probably, closely followed by The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down. If I had the Desert Island one track choice though, it’d be King Harvest.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 11:57:32 CEST 2013 from (81.159.31.234)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Rod, Adam, Ari

Thanks Rod, Adam and Ari. I feel the Band should be even better recognised in the history of music. I played the first three albums twice in the last couple of days. The songs are so fresh and beautiful. I hope they remain for ever. What a superb album Stage Fright is.

If the songs are to remain part of the prevailing culture then other people have to play the songs as well as remembering and revering the songs.

I really like Endless Highway and love 'It Makes No Difference' by My Morning Jacket.

I've only seen 'The Weight' performed once live - by the Swedish Willy Clay Band in a village hall in Scotland. Now that's the sign of a great song. And I loved the spontaineous cheer that arose from the audience on the Carmen verse.

But I feel even more people should know of The Weight. Now there's a question. What songs would meke up 'the new American song book'?


Entered at Mon Apr 1 10:57:44 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

I went to see “Once – the New Musical” on Saturday (review linked … it’s running in London and NYC, I think and definitely one to see). This relates to the discussion. In the review I mention the pre-show. The actors are the musicians (or vice versa), and they play for 20 minutes before the play begins.

So one of the cast did “Raglan Road” on mandolin, joined by two of the actresses on violin at the end. Hauntingly beautiful. We were with two friends who didn’t know the song, and were knocked out by the lyrics, melody and singing. We got in the car, and I found the Van Morrison & The Chieftains version on the iPod. One of my favourite Van Morrison performances, but you know what? It sounded overblown and overdone compared to the version we’d heard in the theatre.

The song exists outside any version, because of the exquisite lyric and melody. We’ve all been in a bar band situation, and they start The Weight and you get a real thrill just to hear it live. You don’t think, ‘Ah, the guitarist didn’t quite get Robbie’s intro right,’ or ‘Rick’s phrasing was better there,’ you’re just plain delighted to hear the song. Last September, I saw The Simone Felice Group in Bath (as did Roger). This is what I wrote about “I Shall Be Released”:

The song requires an extraordinary voice, Richard Manuel on the original. Here the lead was taken unaccompanied by Simi Stone, and she has just that extraordinary signature it-couldn’t-be-anyone-else voice. Transcendently beautiful. Then Simone Felice comes in for the chorus and walked in front of the mics, singing it straight into the hall for audience singalong (it wouldn’t work at the Albert Hall), and everyone sang along. Who can compare versions over that amount of time? I heard Richard Manuel sing it in 1974, which was pure magic. This was pure magic.

Isn’t that what Adam was saying? That the songs should be preserved and refreshed and performed? I’m sure I came out of Simone Felice and said enthusiastically, ‘That’s the best I Shall Be Released I’ve heard!” Fortunately no one tapped me on the arm and said ‘That’s an insult to Richard Manuel.’

The word “best” like “greatest” is often defined as being number one in a list. Just as if you have three things, one 20 cm long, one 30 cm long and one 40 cm long, then the 40 cm one is “the longest.” We now know that superlatives (best, worst, greatest) are not used in that scientific way in speech. I can’t measure in any way whether Richard in 1974 or Simi in 2012 was “better” (though I will insist Simi is better-looking).

Just as the last people who fought in World War 1 have gone, so eventually will be the last person who fought in World War II, and the last person who saw the original Band. The music will continue and hopefully will be interpreted.

A: Oh, the Brandenburg Concertos are being played at the Concert Hall tonight!

B: Nah, don’t bother, mate. See, when Bach was still alive, that was The Brandenburg Concertos, believe me. This lot are just a covers band.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 10:47:46 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Bad Management

Dunc, you coulf probably add:

Not following up TLW with a Warner Bros studio album

The 80's Band not releasing something before Richards death

The 80's Band not teaming up with Robbie or Dylan at various times

Walking away from the Sony contract

It's easy though to be wise in hindsight and alot of the decisions may have been more than just commercial ones.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 06:54:58 CEST 2013 from (142.129.184.64)

Posted by:

John

Subject: Adam's Post

Wanted to add to this string of comments: Adam's heart is in the right place.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 06:51:18 CEST 2013 from (173.3.48.15)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: The Sheiks

Linked, The Sheiks, Has Anybody Seen My Baby. 1984, New Orleans performance

One of the truly great unheralded keyboard players. And one helluva singer.



Entered at Mon Apr 1 04:13:20 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Adam, your friends are offering the best advice: consider the source and keep doing what you are doing. Just do a quick count of exactly how many posters took umbrage. I believe the total is one.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 03:16:40 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.84)

Posted by:

Bill M

Good for you, good for Sebastian. In all thingss, consider the source.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 02:11:08 CEST 2013 from (75.34.59.178)

Posted by:

Adam

Thank you so much, Sebastian Robertson, for your support and amazing, kind comment. I just visited this GB to see if someone hopefully came to my support, and I don't think it gets any better than that.

It is absolutely true that I am too young to have ever experienced The Band with Robbie, or their reunited lineups with Richard, Rick, Levon, newer members Jim Weider and Randy Ciarlante, or any of the great musicians that were involved with this great musical history. They are all the creators and originators of this music, and they could never be replaced or anything like that.

Thank you so much Sebastian, and I hope the interesting discussion will continue here. But please, let the arguments and attacks be put to rest.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 01:32:02 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

Bonk

Subject: JT

Thank you! Well said.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 01:24:00 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Subject: I'll chime in

There is no...'who would you rather' or 'replacement' or anything. I don't compare...at all? Those of you who are musicians know all about 'creativity' and 'unique' etc. You are all special, young or old. Friend-0 and Adam and all the others...you are special, special. There is respect! Anyone who plays and sings and writes has respect for the others who do the same. I doubt if any disrespect is indented by one musician toward another. The points have been made. They are all valid. The 5 are the centre. The others emulate. The music persists and lives. All who keep it alive should be well and prosper.


Entered at Mon Apr 1 00:29:14 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Location: saltSpring Island/Cabbagetown

Subject: FriendO :)

Jeff, buddy, Cut the kid some slack. I understand where you're coming from but he doesn't and can't. There's an old saying my Gandfather said to me one time. "Boy, you know everything about be young, and nothing about being old. Me, I know everything about being young and old." It applies to the music of The Band. I know, I know. How dare he say that when he wasn't even around when the boys were in their heyday. But I truly believe he meant no harm. Lucky for us older dudes that he loves The Band and will carry on the legacy that we love. You know. One day we won't be around and people like Adam and Ari will have to carry the torch. I'm totally OK with that. Their passion for the boys is beyond question. All we can try to do is show them what being older, and the things that we know is all about. "It makes no difference..." Love ya buddy. Carl


Entered at Mon Apr 1 00:06:27 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian Robertson

Subject: hey adam !!

Hey Adam- You're a real fan and an insightful, intelligent young man. What you do for the preservation of The Band is abundantly clear. My father, myself and my entire family thank you for your time and efforts. Keep on keepin' on my friend.


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