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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, November 2016


Entered at Wed Nov 30 23:21:24 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Testimony

I'm savouring it slowly. I wouldn't wait!


Entered at Wed Nov 30 22:44:51 CET 2016 from (31.53.16.193)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Testimony

I got Testimony for £13.99 from Amazon.

Like S.M., mine is being saved for the Christmas holidays. Hi S.M.


Entered at Wed Nov 30 20:04:56 CET 2016 from (216.121.189.31)

Posted by:

S. M.

Lucky me , I got Testimony for $15.00 Canadian .

It is prettily wrapped under my tree from me to me to read over the holidays !


Entered at Wed Nov 30 19:44:57 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Testimony in the Ringwood, Hampshire branch of Waterstones, which is a really small town was signed by Robbie too. Waterstones must have loads.


Entered at Wed Nov 30 19:29:46 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Following BEG's link to images, brings up the article on Tony Mart's with photo … but the photo is Ronnie with The Hawks and the low ceiling looks smaller club, so I'd guess that the photo is NOT Tony Mart's,


Entered at Wed Nov 30 19:13:56 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Nomadic Mike....When you have the time; email and fill me in!!!!!! Sorry but I lost everyone's email via hotmail.

Ian W....Levon with Tony Marts t-shirt and other photos.

I just ordered ‘360 Sound: The Columbia Records Story,’ by Sean Wilentz for 17.50.
Btw partner tells me that Testimony is at BMV across from Eaton Centre for 15.00.

I missed Joseph Arthur at The Drake on Monday but nest month I'll be seeing Toronto's The Skydiggers at the Horseshoe. green eyed girl knows band members as most attended alternative public schools back in the day as did L'tranger. Before I knew her in grad school....She and her X would have punk nights in basements.......
Have a musical week everyone!


Entered at Wed Nov 30 18:42:54 CET 2016 from (174.88.217.37)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Brown eyes

Thank you, Angie, although for me, "huge" is more Hawks than Lightfoot. Btw, after many decades in Thamestown, I'll soon be Niagara-bound and moving back "home." Reason: I've reconnected with an early-teens love in one of those too-good-to-believe second-rate movie yarns. And reliving my youth . . . providing, of course, that I don't look too closely in the mirror :)

Somewhat belatedly, I loved your family-lookback post of a few weeks ago.


Entered at Wed Nov 30 17:54:07 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Levon and The Hawks at Somers Point - 1965

Have any photographs of Levon and The Hawks at Somers Point ever surfaced?

I know there was a NEW YORK TIMES article ("The Changing Shore" by Ronald Sullivan, 24 August 1965, page 33) that included a photograph of some girls at the bar, with "Go Go" dancers on the bar-top and a band in the background that could well be Levon and The Hawks but I've never seen any others. The photographer is not credited, so either a NEW YORK TIMES staffer or Sullivan himself. One would think that whoever took that photograph would have taken others.

Tony Mart's is described as, "the biggest night spot in Somers Point ... seven large bars, 29 cash registers and 40 bartenders and bouncers". Tony Marotta is quoted as saying, "This place is a gold mine, a $2 million gold mine .... but this is a no-baloney business, strictly 100 per cent legit". Some place, eh!

But are there any other photos?



Entered at Wed Nov 30 17:19:11 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Nomadic Mike...since you're a huge Gordon Lightfoot fan. And you've seen The Hawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Btw truly hope everything is ok in the land of story book gardens. :-D


Entered at Wed Nov 30 16:46:35 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

In Conversation with Robbie Robertson and Indigo CEO Heather Reisman
Robbie also reads from his book.

For those of you who have children or grandchildren and are thinking about buying books for the holidays here are some of my faves I've read to JK/SK-G6 students: Some of these books were given to me as gifts and some I already had in my own personal collection which I will probably always keep because a good story is.....a good story.....is timeless for any age.

The Dream Eater...Story by Christian Garrison Pictures by Diane Goode (Japan)
Lon Po Po (A Red Riding Hood Story From China)...Ed Young
The Rough-Face Girl (Canadian Native) Rafe Martin Illustrated by David Shannon (same as Robbie's Hiawatha)
The Legend Of The Indian Paintbrush...Retold and Illustrated by Tomie dePaola
The Snow Child (A Russian Tale)...Retold by Freya LIttledale...all of her books are keepers...Illustrated by Barbara Lavallee
Feelings...Aliki
The Three Gold Pieces (A Greek Folk Tale Retold and Illustrated by Aliki
The Three Questions (Based on a story by Leo Tolstoy)...Jon J Muth
Take A Deep Breath (little lessons from flowers for a happier world)...Allison Stoutland Illustrated by Cathy Hofher
Only One You...Linda Kranz
One Love (Based On The Song By Bob Marley)...adapted by Cedella Marley Illustrated by Vanessa Brantley-Newton
A Caribbean Dozen (Poems From Caribbean Poets)...Edited by John Agard and Grace Nichols Illustrated by Cathie Felted
Jelly Belly...Dennis Lee (Canadian Poet) Illustrated by Juan Wijngaard
The Big Book For Peace...Edited by Ann Durell and Marilyn Sachs Designed by Jane Byers Bierhorst
Crackers and Crumbs (Chants for Whole Language) and Butterscotch Dreams...Sonja Dunn (I took Drama and Children's Literature from Canada's David Booth...These books inspired me to teach language via chants and I became a chant queen myself.)
The Twelve Cats of Christmas...Randy Radzinski
Child Of The Sun...A Cuban Legend
The True Story Of The 3 Little Pigs! by A. Wolf...As told to Jon Scieszka Illustrated by Lane Smith
Tom Doesn't Visit Us Anymore...(sexual abuse) Maryleah Otto Illustrated by Jude Waples
The Paper Bag Princess...Story by Canada's via of USA Robert N. Munsch Art by Michael Martchenko
Princess Smartypants and Prince Cinders by British Author...Babette Cole
Alphabet Zoo A Pop-Up ABC Book...Lynette Ruschak Illustrated by May Rousseau
The Darkest Dark...Canadian Astronaut Chris Hadfield Illustrated by The Fan Brothers
The Tale Of Despereaux...(novel) Kate Dicamillo Illustrated by Timothy Basil Ering (The movie doesn't do justice to this book at all. This book really helped me to understand why forgiveness is for you and not the other person no matter what transpired......)
Little Kay and all books by Robin Muller (A male writer but his female characters are the ones who save the day!)
George and Martha (many books about these two friends)...James Marshall
Romeo and Juliet...Margaret Early
The Boy Who Grew Flowers...Jen Wojtowicz Illustrated by Steve Adams
A Child's Garden Of Yoga...Baba Hari Dass Photography by Steven N. Thomas (Mukund)
Legends, Icons and Rebels Music That Changed The World...Robbie Robertson Jim Guerinot Sebastian Robertson Jared Levine
Hiawatha And The Peace Maker...Robbie Robertson Illustrated by David Shannon
Rock and Roll Highway The Robbie Robertson Story...Sebastian Robertson Illustrated Adam Gustavson

Now who is going to write and illustrate children's books on Richard Manuel, Rick Danko, Garth Hudson and Levon Helm??????????


Entered at Wed Nov 30 16:45:38 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Angelina: thank you. I can't believe I missed that. However, I'm still hoping for an appearance on Fresh Air. Longer interview. : )


Entered at Wed Nov 30 15:27:41 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Fred....
Robbie Robertson On 'The Last Waltz,' 40 Years Later

NPR Music
November 24, 2016


Entered at Wed Nov 30 06:16:20 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

I wonder if Robbie will be a guest on NPR's Fresh Air sometime soon? Terry Gross does interview a lot of rock icons.

I also think he would be a good guest for NPR's Tiny Desk concert series.


Entered at Wed Nov 30 02:01:23 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Bob F, thanks for the radio mention.


Entered at Wed Nov 30 02:00:03 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bob F

I'll have to cue my movie up and find the spot where my old friend Barry and I can be seen. It's around the Chuck Berry footage.


Entered at Tue Nov 29 21:03:50 CET 2016 from (99.39.129.42)

Posted by:

David

Location: Scotland

Subject: Richard

Stumbled on your lovely, sad, piece on Richard Manuel. Thank you.


Entered at Tue Nov 29 19:41:05 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Mixed Bag John Lennon Show This Saturday

John D, really looking forward to your Mixed Bag show on John Lennon Saturday. I was just watching the 1969 Live Peace show from Toronto. After not having played live for 3 years it's amazing how good he was.


Entered at Tue Nov 29 18:53:34 CET 2016 from (114.75.196.79)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Robbie on 'The Weight'.


Entered at Tue Nov 29 18:24:18 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Don't Be Denied

A great version of a Neil Young song.


Entered at Tue Nov 29 14:48:11 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Norah Jones Don't Be Denied

Norah Jones played UPAC in Kingston last night. So great. One of the highlights was her version of Don't Be Denied. She performed this song a few weeks back on a late night show.


Entered at Tue Nov 29 05:40:47 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band may have rejected or simply psychedelia wasn't on their radar but it was on mine.
Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf 1969. Were there any bands in the sixties with organ that weren't good?

So John Kay attended Humberside Collegiate while imagezulu attended Bloor Collegiate only because of new boundaries.....but then Rick Emmett of Triumph was at his school. While in Port Hope last year we saw he was performing jazz on his own.


Entered at Tue Nov 29 05:26:00 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Steppenwolf's John Kay on the band's Toronto origins, hall of fame bid

VICTORIA AHEARN
THE CANADIAN PRESS
10.20.2016
TORONTO

"Before he got his motor running as the husky voiced singer of Steppenwolf, John Kay found musical inspiration as a teen in Toronto, where he crossed paths with Neil Young and regularly watched Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks at the Concord Tavern.

"That's where we saw what a really great band sounds like, with Robbie Robertson and Garth Hudson and all the other members of what later became the Band," Kay said in a phone interview this week, after learning that Steppenwolf is in the running for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction next year.

It was while gathering his belongings from his former Toronto apartment that he ran into a certain folk-rock legend."


Entered at Tue Nov 29 04:43:37 CET 2016 from (67.70.150.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

After digging around a bit in Peter De Remigis's blog, it's clear that "1958" is simply a typo; he meant '59 as he's identified the stuff before and the stuff as happening in '59. Much to his credit, he's continued to update and add material that wasn't there 10 or five years ago.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 23:36:08 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.161)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

And Wallsend, there's lots of ways to look back on things.

This was your thought, not mine:" It is hard to recapture how you thought about stuff at the time because you are looking at it in hindsight."

If i recall something well, I'll recall my feelings well too. But one's feelings at the time were not necessarily the point. How one looks back & thinks is. Time can change feelings, deepen them, or effect them other ways. The perspective of having lived a life can come from many angles, even all at once. But that doesn't negate the remembrance of the original feelings, just offers more views & thoughts. That's where it all gets interesting & this would be something to really hear & discuss with candid subjects or close friends .



Entered at Mon Nov 28 23:00:39 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.161)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Wallsend, I'm not meaning to be incendiary or demeaning, but while you may have not chosen the words you wish to, or you may have, to me seeing something & thinking "There is something here for me if I can just find it.' that is a very self interested , even mercenary thought, approach, & statement. You may think in those terms, what is in this for me that i can build a career on, but to assign that thought process to others is very wrong. Speaking for myself, to delve deep into something I need to either feel compelled by a strong connection, or alternately, have a figurative gun to my head with no way out.I've been in those situations, & managed to still abide by moral choices till i could get out.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 22:41:41 CET 2016 from (114.75.74.197)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

I think when you get older and realise that you have more days behind you than in front of you inevitably you begin reflecting on the past. It is hard to recapture how you thought about stuff at the time because you are looking at it in hindsight. One thing I clearly remember is that I used to go to the East Asia Collection at Canterbury Museum in Christchurch and look at all the stuff and think "There is something here for me if I can just find it.' It was on that simple idea that I built my academic career. Where these kind of ideas come from is hard to say but I guess Robbie felt it when he went down South.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 22:15:36 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.161)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

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Subject: Dance To The Music. 1983 Letterman Band.

Hiram died a few years ago. Watching this, & realizing it's 33 years past, 33 years ago seems like forever ago right now..

So, though there's no way to know, it might makes one wonder for a moment, how each Band member looked / looks back as an older man, in his private thoughts. Richard, well, he never got older. But Rick got old enough to look back 30 & 40 years on his past with the Hawks / Band. Levon, Garth, RR.... Remember, private thoughts & public expressions can be worlds apart.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 19:07:30 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Memory?

Indeed. I thought about this when Robbie mentions the incredible Klegerman recall. And he has a wonderful memory and can bring sights and sounds to life extremely well. But none of us remember more than a tiny percentage. Think of a three week wonderful holiday. How many incidents do you remember clearly? The photos will fix a few things. Or think of (say) 1975 or 1987. How many actual days can you bring sharply to mind. I can see stuff I've written now and compare with diaries or letters from the time (I got my letters back from friends - we exchanged). The past always gets embroidered, or shifted. We create memories as well as remember things.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 17:40:30 CET 2016 from (24.114.70.179)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter De Remigis's bog has been up for a good five years and is really interesting throughout. But it shouldn't be taken as gospel, as some of the minor facts have shifted since the late '70s when he spoke to me at some length. (This is a standard human failing, not a hanging offence.)


Entered at Mon Nov 28 16:30:48 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The British edition of Testimony has seven blank pages a the back. The Acknowledgments and photo credits take four pages in well-spaced print. There are three blank pages at the front.

Books come in magic numbers … multiples of 16 pages, because that’s one printing sheet before it’s cut. The economics are such that most publishers would have done 16 pages fewer, which on this book would have been an easy design job. The UK one is Heinemann, part of Penguin Random House.

With educational publishing, we would certainly have done a first edit, then thrown a rough page layout, then edited / designed to fit an exact multiple of 16. I’m quite surprised they have that much white space, because otherwise the book has nicer than normal text design … decent margins, good point size. Nowadays you see so many books where margins have been shrunk … probably to hit a multiple of 16. It’s not only paper, but shipping weight, storage area … all these are factored in. Mind you, white space is good, in that you feel less crowded.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 15:21:21 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Watch David Crosby, Graham Nash, Robbie Robertson on 'Speakeasy'


Entered at Mon Nov 28 15:14:25 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

From Deremigi's Blog.....1956 Ford Consul.

"Robbie Robertson becomes a Consul in the spring of 1958."

"Shortly after the Oakville show we became aware of a guitarist, Robbie Robertson, whom some in our group wanted to recruit as a bassist to replace Leonard Stubbs. We went to see Robbie perform at a place called the Landsdowne Assembly Hall on Lansdowne Avenue just north of Queen Street and The Green Dolphin restaurant. Robbie’s group,” Robbie and the Robots “, with his buddy Pete Traynor on bass, Robbie’s name scrawlled across his guitar( his “Robbie guitar”), played through amplifiers adorned with little arials sounded unimpressive. “The Robots’ “unimaginative repertoire consisted mainly of Bo Diddley-like instrumentals led by Robbie."

"Robbie joined the Consuls that spring. We then had two guitarists, Gene MacLellan, and Robbie Robertson who would not accept the role of bassist for which he had been recruited."

I checked with imagezulu and he did get paid for photographing Ladau by an oil company. I was incorrect to say he was wearing headphones! He wouldn't be able to hear anything if he had worn them and he would have been in danger so he just wore earplugs.

I've been to Cuba four times with friends to Santiago De Cuba, Varadero Beach and Habana. One time I joined a group on an arts tour consisting of therapists and educators......However, it's the safest place for a tourist as we're revered there due to their economic situation and Cubans are discouraged from harassing tourists......very different from Jamaica.

I don't want to romantisize my magical times in Cuba....but I did feeeeel magic......but I did feeeeel it.....The warmth of the Cubans.....They love to converse with anyone who wants to learn about their culture and their lives.....some I met had previously lived in the USA or Jamaica....but families chose to return and I met a dancer who was married to one of the revolutionaries who had a nice apartment and made an income of selling her story by selling her book and letting us hang with her in her home.

Then of course the rhythms in their music that Ry Cooder fell in love with......Music was everywhere and anywhere.....and the very inexpensive shrimp and lobster....One time I had a meal in a Cuban home for 10.00......shrimp or lobster, salad, wine and salad and conversation with family who made additional income in this manner....The father was a former engineer and one daughter performed at our resort while their son recruited us when we left the resort just exploring the town of Varadero.....He was riding his bike and politely asked us if we liked to have a Cuban meal in their home nearby. We said yes as we were with a couple from North Bay who could speak Portuguese so off we went.........and the 50's vibe as time stood still for Cuba after 1959 but slowly more citizens are allowed to use their homes as a pop up restaurant.....and spanish architecture.

One of our tour guides told us they made 10.00 a month and they were University educated as education is free as is their health care.....They have more access to alternative medicines compared to toxic ones and Cuba does produce many physicians.....but then they have to have another job to supplement income.

What you can't help being impressed with is that you see students wear red, blue and gold uniforms in relation to the grades they're in and you know......Literate population. Canadians have universal health care but we pay high taxes to make sure all of our citizens are taken care of regardless of income or lack of one. Cuba was never communist or socialist in the sense of Marxism......Che on the other hand is easy on the eyes and he was a physician who chose to live in unbearable conditions for the revolution with his asthma! I'm so glad that Canada differs from some countries and always had good relations with the people of Cuba. What also really impresses me about the Cuban people......Their spirit is infectious.....They remind us you don't need a million things.....Yes they need more then what they live on....That's why when I'm there I leave clothing, toiletries, school supplies and tip anyone who helps me in anyway......but there is something in their general disposition in life.

The Cubans are resilient......proud.....friendly.....know how to live life more fully then people who are rich in income but poor when it comes to feeling connected to anything.....They survived all these years with no help from the USA....although last trip more American tourists were evident but they must have arrived via Canada or Mexico or only by special permission. Btw a positive for me.....no chocolate and when it's not available I don't miss it. lol


Entered at Mon Nov 28 14:33:36 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.117)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Thanks for posting Robbie's kind words on Traynor. That's the sort of thing that he shouldn't have let the editor remove. I've no doubt that he would have won if it came down to a battle.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 13:33:21 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Good point on the index. As to Bibliography, Robbie says he only read 30 pages of Hoskyns and didn't read the Levon / Davies. So that's two not on there.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 12:35:10 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Meat is Murder

Peter V: don't blame Disney....blame The Smiths. ; )


Entered at Mon Nov 28 12:33:23 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: : )

Testimony has no index?!? Well that settles it....I'll never buy it.

Curse you Robbie Robertson. Curse you!

(insert obligatory meek waving of the fist here) ; )

Really? Complaining that a memoir has no index... it's not an academic tome for crying out loud. I'm surprised no critic has piped up about there not being a bibliography tacked on at the end, either.

Vegans...don't get me started. My beef with the ones I've met (to be fair not all) is that while I respect their right to eat whatever and however they choose, that respect is hardly ever reciprocated.

Kevin J what did you think of the race? I felt kind of bad for Jenson Button not being able to finish, but that's racing.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 11:23:22 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Completely irrelevant topic … but …

Over breakfast (all fruit) I perused yesterday’s newspaper in more detail, and found that a new Militant Vegan group is attacking abbatoirs and farmers. Apparently, some attacked a chicken farm saying the workers were “killing babies” (they meant by selling eggs) and their policy is that farms should become “forever homes” for animals which would never be slaughtered. I’d love to have Steve’s views on how farmers would finance keeping herds of pigs and cows as basically pets. Or why these animals would exist in the first place with no financial incentive to rear them. And these are vegans … they wouldn’t allow cows to be kept for milk or chickens for eggs.

You have to blame the Disneyfication of animals for all this. I wonder if we have gone wrong over many, many years of kids stories in showing animals as people.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 11:01:58 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Has Ry Cooder ever been refunded his fines for working with the Buena Vista Social Club? Now is the time.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 10:59:16 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Sunday Times gave Fidel massive coverage, particularly quoting the opposing views. The point I always made was that he inherited a country run by US gangsters for their own benefit, (much as the USA might be in four years time) with over 90% illiteracy, and within a few years, he could claim 98% adult literacy.

On the other hand I met Cuban teachers in Mexico who had worked on the literacy programme out in the fields, who said “literacy” was wildly overstated in the first few years, meaning only that everyone was taught to recite the alphabet and write their name. But after a few more years, it was true.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 07:02:15 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

The extent of CNN's coverage of Fidel Castro's death is showing interviews with Elián Gonzalez and interviewing a bunch of morons in Miami dancing in celebratin of a man's death.... No analysis, no context..... Embarrassing and gross..... No wonder they now have Trump as president.... Thank God we still have the CBC in Canada and a leader like Justin Trudeau.....RIP Fidel.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 05:53:18 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Pete Traynor

Robbie on his friend Pete Traynor:

"Pete Traynor or Thumper as we called him, was an old pal of mine. We played in several bands together: The Rhythm Chords, Robbie and The Robots, Thumper and the Trambones, and the Suedes. He could just as easily build a guitar as play one. He hot-rodded my amps, guitars, or anything he could get his hands on. We ran together, double dated, and tried to stay out of trouble, sometimes unsuccessfully. As I went off to Arkansas to join Ronnie Hawkins and The Hawks, Pete went on to become the premier guitar amp maker in Canada. He had an amazing gift for electronics and his amps had a powerful crystal sound. Some years back, they were making a documentary on me and Pete and i met up at my mother's old house in Toronto. He still had that fire in his eye like he needed to figure out what to build next. If David Bowie or Prince need an amp fixed up in heaven, I can tell you they're in good hands now. Thanks Thumper, for all the good times and wonderful memories........Blessings, Robbie"


Entered at Mon Nov 28 05:32:42 CET 2016 from (67.70.150.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

The photo that John D mentions was taken at the same gig as this one, which Jan has had posted here for maybe 15 years. Same players but no Al Boliska.

As for Peter Traynor, I noted his absence from "Testimony", and was disappointed, as he wasn't just an early bandmate, but a key friend and co-conspirator and technical wiz for the Hawks. Rick mentions somewhere - I think a '74 interview - that Traynor made his amp as well as Robbie's. (Greg Godovitz's informative and hilarious "Travels with my Amp" touches on Rick's Traynor-made amp, and also the Female Beatles that Robbie mentions.) I was even more disappointed that Robbie bowed to the wishes of his editor in dumping references to Pete beyond the minimal. Traynor - and many others - were more consequential than a handshake with Nico. The other big disappointment for me is the complete absence of the Dianne Brooks session. Robbie may well have a very clear memory of that incidents that he remembers, but he doesn't appear to remember everything - and he has as poor a sense of chronology as the rest of us, whose careers become Groundhog Day from doing the same thing week after week, whether stamping papers or setting up on stage. "Hello Cleveland!"


Entered at Mon Nov 28 04:24:47 CET 2016 from (114.75.204.101)

Posted by:

Wallsend

BEG, I am just a fan too so it is mere speculation on my part. I think if you look at Levon and Robbie's post-Band careers you can see that they were very different people. Even without the drugs issue, they may have grown apart. It happens in life not just with friends but also family members.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 04:18:04 CET 2016 from (114.75.204.101)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

In conversation with Robbie Robertson. I am not sure if this has already been posted.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 04:01:50 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I think it was a freudian slip when I said Robbie shut down the friendship.....Also when you're always retelling about the good feelings one has felt when they're in that moment in time.....The once friendship becomes part of your life history.........but not necessarily a friendship anymore....maybe friendship transforms only to work relationship? casual acquaintances? ....In Robbie's case I get the impression that his love for Levon was very strong....comes through loud and clear so when there was a point when things were never the same again....never the same.....They were never the same so he moved on with love for Levon....but....He moved on.....Just my impressions....As Robbie said it wasn't always on the stage........I'm just a fan......How Can I Be Sure?


Entered at Mon Nov 28 03:32:38 CET 2016 from (114.23.128.19)

Posted by:

Russell Parkinson

Location: New Zealand

Subject: NZ TLW - show The Weight video with Garth Hudson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eICcB8kaZt4

There were 5 cameras at the show so waiting to see what comes out.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 03:28:05 CET 2016 from (114.23.128.19)

Posted by:

Russell Parkinson

Location: New Zealand

Subject: NZ TLW 40th video

Some link to pre show rehearsals. Will give some idea what the Auckland show was like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqZ1u5dybDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IquQB7f9RWA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IibilIfenKA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE91G7x_p8A


Entered at Mon Nov 28 03:14:23 CET 2016 from (114.75.204.101)

Posted by:

Wallsend

BEG, I think Robbie said that after Levon lied to him about using heroin his relationship was 'never the same' which is a bit different to 'shutting down' their friendship. The impression I got was that Robbie's concern about drug use was not an ethical one but the impact it had on their ability to work. If you could take the drugs and still work it is was OK, if they stopped you from working it wasn't OK. Robbie said he stopped (or at least reduced) his use of cocaine after Scorsese nearly died.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 03:11:03 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Long-lost photos of The Band's 'The Last Waltz' uncovered
By Brian Reynolds
Friday, November 25, 2016

JOHN D...Are you in any of these photos? I still can't get over how you and Paul Godfrey and Rollie......all were at TLW!!!! Where were all of you sitting? Last night I watched it on PBS with added Robbie interviews. It appears he truly misses his band members and may be feeling some guilt that he is a survivor. He uses the word denial many times.....

Btw, I remember your story with Robbie's mom......but I couldn't remember the year.....Thanks so much for sharing again....magical experiences never get old. Everyone loved her, right? Isn't that why the boyzzzz would go to Robbie's home in Riverdale and she'd provide some home cookin'?

Thanks also for sending photo to JH. I'm sure everyone will just love it! It's not your usual photo, is it? Yeah, you should write a book......maybe not just on The Band.....as you have many bands and radio experiences to share with an audience.....and Bill M on Toronto music scene and The Hawks.....and Peter V and Pat B....as they love their dates and minute detail and analysis on The Band and their GB fans.......and Carol Caffin on Rick.......Special person......very pleasant to interact with in the GB and via email.

I just might begin Robbie's journey via of his......Testimony tonight.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 02:34:43 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

John, great to hear that whole story.
BTW, that was Levon's longtime signature solution - We'll all walk in together.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 02:06:37 CET 2016 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: John D

John. Now that's the kind of story we all want to hear! Lay it out man. I'm thinking that maybe you should write a book on your experiencies of being one of the best DJ's in Canada.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 01:52:11 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Montreal 75-76

In 1975-1976 I was working in Montreal at a free form music station called CJFM. During my noon hour portion I would take phone requests. One day a lady called and asked for a track; from The Band. No problem I said. I'm a big fan and supporter. She said, "Yes I know." She would call a few more times always requesting The Band. Finally one day she said "John it's me again. Would you play my son's group for me please?" "Your son's group? You mean the Band? Wait a minute, is this Robbie's Mom?" Indeed it was. She was living in Montreal at the time. She gave me a head's up to a concert they were doing the next night; in Burlington Vermont. Just across the border.

Well the next day I called in sick and my cohort Matthew and I headed off to Burlington. Robbie's mom had told me the name of the motel. We hung out in the lobby and finally in they came. Robbie laughed and said, "My Mother told you didn't she?" We both laughed. They went to change in their rooms and then out they came. Levon was the last one to emerge. He had his girlfriend; with him. A beauty by the name of Sandy. She would later become his wife. "You comin' to the show John?" I told him I just came to say hello and in fact I didn't have any tickets. "Well then son let me take care of that." Instead of riding with the others he and Sandy jumped into my back seat. "They'll have to let you in now John; otherwise there ain't no drummer for tonight." And he laughed. So Matthew and I watched the Band play outdoors on a beautiful night; with a full moon. Wonderful to see the moon positioned behind Garth's head during The Genetic Method and Chest Fever. It was a magical evening.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 01:37:25 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pic that BEG mentioned

Jan. I just sent you the picture that BEG was talking about earlier.


Entered at Mon Nov 28 01:16:15 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson Talks Last Waltz And Thanksgiving

JED.....Many thanks for responding to my very disjointed and intense post. It must have been very cool to have lived in the Woodstock area. I really enjoyed my weekend visit there.

Again, I really appreciated your response to a very complicated topic. As far as personalities are concerned. When you think about it.....I think only Robbie had no siblings and basically only one parent. When he stated in one interview that his mother was abused and he was as well by his step-dad......huge trauma. He also had to deal with two cultures that he didn't exactly embrace until he became more comfortable in his own skin and had attained fame that allowed him to come out......I was shocked when I first discovered that he was part Native. I think I knew about his Jewish father earlier for some reason but then the manner in which he passed.........and then Robbie said in same or another interview that when Levon lied to him about his continual abuse of Heroin.....He shut down their friendship.........but......then Robbie went into cocaine overdrive after TLW........Huh, Robbie? You're no longer on the road and now you're going to snort for days and nights on end and yet you couldn't stand the junkies in your group? Huh? Life's a journey......Amazing musicians........with challenges and contradictions like.......all of us.
Long Live The Legacy Of The Band!


Entered at Sun Nov 27 23:14:04 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Pain

BEG,my apologies.You emphasized the long term pain and trauma people who get in trouble with drugs experience,and I foolishly jumped to science.Empathy and connecting with that pain is where it's at-I should be a fly on the wall in your office for not mentioning that!


Entered at Sun Nov 27 22:54:18 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Addiction

Since the three guys used,there have been significant advances and new and novel treatments that didn't exist when they were using.We are still a fairly ignorant field given we know little about the brain-the reason the NIH is pouring millions into brain research.Ive been treating and involved in res arch for many years and though we have a way to go we've advanced significantly.Unfortunately,the USA still remains fixated on twelve step and rehab-both approaches with very little success or even any data to support positive outcomes.All this,while approaches that succeed are unknown for many reasons,often money/greed a key part of the problem.Enough of my rambling for now.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 22:45:10 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: BEG

I agree,BEG,RR wrote the songs.I think the feud is less about money and more about very different and intrinsically distinct personality styles that despite the musical partnership,were destined to lead to a feud.That happens in business,friendships,marriages etc.-no one reason leads to strife but different personality styles and life narratives tend to precipitate conflict.Often the content of the conflict is secondary.Human nature in our time could be a real pain in the ass.These are obviously opinions given I knew none of the guys personally and was not witness to the truth that none of us will ever get to.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 22:07:28 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JOHN D...Any chance sending the photo of you and Levon and your partner to Jan H so everyone can enjoy that priceless photo?

On a lighter musical note......Good lovin' to all.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 21:57:16 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

That should read Traynor.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 21:56:07 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: jh

Jan, I sent a picture of Ronnie & Robbie; with musicians from the early days that I did not know, to Bill M. Turns out it was The Suedes; with Mr. Tranor on board. You should get it soon; if Bill has the time. Anything Canadian Bill knows. Wish he would write a book.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 21:48:57 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band Before They Were The Band: A Listening Guide

THE PITCH by Tyler Wilcox
Pitchfork Contributor

Thanks for the correction MVP of the GB. I was wondering why no one brought up what I thought was the reason for Hoskins distaste of Robbie. LOL

KEVIN....Shhhhh.....Please don't alert Bill M to my posts as he lets them pass by. As soon as I saw Traynor's name as an omit of Testimony........I had a real queasy feeling........

Hi Jed. I'd like to be a fly in your office......I have to say that I've grown to agree with Simon re Robbie and writing credits. I'm not so dogmatic anymore. I agree with Simon now that what Robbie did was not illegal but morally......Robbie goes on and on about being brothers and how gifted all the musicians were in The Band......I think everyone would agree that Robbie was definitely the major songwriter......sometimes by default.......a lot of pressure for him for sure......but.....

The songs are timeless because of all the musicians in The Band and although I......dig Robbie's singing.......Even Robbie would agree that Rick's country inflections and raw and sweet twang in his vocals, and Levon's down home Southern defiant proud vocals and Richard's vulnerable soulful renditions........as soul has no colour......and Richard felt things deeply as he lived his pain....He didn't just sing about it......and yet he had a sense of humour which showed his spirit was strong but.......addiction is chemical and about a broken spirit.......

My understanding is that anyone who is drawn to H has very deep pain.....A lot of people also have very deep pain but are able to move past it......maybe with other addictions or obsessions or........? Anyway, since 12......earlier?...........Richard has already become a slave......as you very well know.......without the right treatment and continual support and the..........He just wanted to break even......

Why was Louuuu and Eric able to go to NA and AA......and not only survive but soar? I guess what I'm saying......I'm giving Levon some slack now.......what about others giving Robbie some slack as I had a strong feeling that Robbie wouldn't touch smack.....just as MIck would experiment with a lot of coke like Robbie.....but maybe....just maybe......The rumoured characterization of both of them being total control freaks......actually helped them from not being out of control with hardcore addictions which enslave the mind and body.

Sorry if rambling too much but I've seen addiction close up and personal and deep seated shame was huge......A while back I actually posted a paper on Richard and shame and addiction but no longer available. Curious if you have a response. Or you could email me via Jan H if you prefer or not. :-D


Entered at Sun Nov 27 21:02:42 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

BEG....Thanks for that Macleans link. A different type of interview from most......but that reference to the editor nixing some of the Pete Traynor era stuff might be upsetting to Bill M especially.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 20:45:23 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Indexing

Complaints about no indexing is usually a sign that the reviewer was just upset that they had to actually read the book.

Fred.....Yes, it has been a very frustrating season for fans of Ferrari especially after the promise of last year and early this year......But I have really enjoyed the majority of races the last few years. All sorts of action and overtaking positions 3 down to about 12. Also, we now get the full British TV coverage in Canada with about 5 hours on the Saturday and Sunday....pre and post qualifying and race shows. With you 100% on the character and sportsmanship comparisons.....I was just happy as I always am whenever I hear Gilles being referenced in today's race world.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 20:14:42 CET 2016 from (24.114.49.202)

Posted by:

Bill M

Gotta admit that Barney beats Robbie when it comes to indexing. "Small Town Talk" has one, "Testimony" doesn't.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 19:08:49 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Indexing

Indexing used to be a highly-skilled job with adverts in Authors and Literary magazines and "History Today." Some indices are awful. Some are too big. It's a conundrum nowadays. The eBook version doesn't need an index because it's searchable. That tends to leave people wondering whether to take the trouble on the print edition. With big rock books I find an index very useful, but then with my reviews of Shakespeare plays, which are all online or free eBooks, I'll search the eBook in preference to taking the text off the shelf. If you wanted to write more in detail on The Band (and I think there may be enough now), you'd simply get the eBook too.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 17:58:43 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Testimony CD

I couldn't not get the Testimony CD, even though I could have assembled it in minutes from existing iTunes Playlists, except for the new mix of the title track. The logic still puzzles me. It plays fine in its order as a listening experience but I don't see the thread behind it. Also why no Basement song? (I don't think Bessie Smith counts).


Entered at Sun Nov 27 17:43:33 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Dylan and Our Guys

I have many thoughts about RR's book,as all who read it will.I've already expressed my own points of view on some of the subjects in the book.But,on a really nice note,Dylan is the consummate mensch.His consistent nice manner towards all of our guys is evident throughout the book,but even more outstanding is his incredible loyalty towards The Band during the booing tour.Robbie's feelings about Bob were nice to read.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 15:44:48 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: vice versa

No, Robbie did give Barney Hoskyns an interview for Across The Great Divide. Levon refused, then called around the others who had been asked for interviews and told them not to. Hoskyns book was well ahead of the Levon / Stephen Davies chronologically - published 9 months ahead, and I was told Levon's was started after he'd heard Hoskyns was researching. So Hoskyns had more reason to be pissed off with Levon BUT then Levon gave him a long Rolling Stone interview later and was gracious and pleasant and no one mentioned 1993 (?).


Entered at Sun Nov 27 13:03:15 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson on life with The Band
The famed songwriter on his career, mending longtime feuds, and the next wave of Indigenous music

Michael Barclay
November 11, 2016

I thought the reason Hoskins didn't dig Robbie was also because he wouldn't give him an interview for his book whereas Levon did give Barney an interview.

If you haven't checked out the Chihuly exhibit in your town......You have to as it's one of the best non-toxic medicines to help alleviate all the negative vibes seeping through.
In the gift shop Canadian musician from Six Nations who was shown in Robbie's trip back home.......CD of Derek Miller! I saw him at Massey Hall on a bill with other Indigenous artists....At that time he looked like a Beatle but played like a man possessed......headliner was Buffy St. Marie!


Entered at Sun Nov 27 12:42:12 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Q&A: Robbie Robertson on his new memoir, 'The Last Waltz' 40th anniversary

CP: "You've also started a new studio album. Where does that stand?

Robertson: I’m somewhere in the middle of it. And because of everything else going on I haven’t had a chance to really go there. Some of (what’s) not in the book has bled over into the songs.

CP: Like songs about your past?

Robertson: When I was really a young kid … people would gather around the radio because a certain show was coming on. The one that got me was “The Shadow” and Orson Welles was the voice — his sound and laugh and everything. So one of the songs I’ve written is about the feeling that gave me, and what Lamont Cranston — the Shadow’s real name — had to undertake. I’m pretty sure it’s a cool track, but I’ll have to get to where … I’m not doing a little of this and a little of that, scattered all over the place."


Entered at Sun Nov 27 12:31:38 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Weight: Robbie Robertson on life with the Band

Levon and the Hawks before becoming the Band. (Bill Avis/Archives)
Jesse Kinos-Goodin
November 24, 2016


Entered at Sun Nov 27 12:23:25 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Fred and Kevin J...Apparently Niki Ladau said last year that F1 cars are too easy to drive. In 1976 imagezulu photographed his race in Toronto....amongst many. I'll have to ask him if he was an intern or if he was a paid photographer. He wore the headphones for sure......yuck......you couldn't pay me enough.
Btw, how cool is this?......I bought a new computer in September and a bonus was Beats headphones for free plus education discount for educators. I would have preferred Marley's headphones....lol....

Norbert...Wasn't Els your neighbour? ;-D You're one of the best storytellers in the GB. I still remember the first one during the holidays when we first "met"....Hope both of you keep groovin' on a Sunday afternoon.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 12:09:46 CET 2016 from (89.242.94.242)

Posted by:

Solomon

Location: Irish Times Review
Web: My link

Subject: Testimony

By the mid-point of the book, the author is in danger of losing both the run of himself and his main characters as the narrative slips into episodic asides, some entertaining, others banal. At its worst this is cocktail-party prose, an introduction to some famous name, accompanied by a brief bon mot, then on to the next guest celebrity. Referencing the minor characters in future will be difficult due to the shameful lack of an index. What were the publishers thinking?


Entered at Sun Nov 27 12:01:03 CET 2016 from (87.144.162.45)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Waiting for Godot

Bill, where do we go from here? Where is the hope?

Anyway, it’s good to see a Girl with Brown Eyes back in town.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 11:57:45 CET 2016 from (89.242.94.242)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Across the Great Divide: The Band and America v Testimony

Didn't Robbie say he could only read the first 30 pages of the Barney Hosykns book? I think Barney might not have forgotten that little comment.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 08:21:54 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Kevin J: finally a horrid F1 season will end...were I a Mercedes fan, or a fan of either Rosberg or Hamilton I'd be singing a different tune, but alas I follow the Prancing Horse.

I don't like that comparison the great Niki Lauda made as (1) Aryton could be a very a dirty driver on the track, fast but dirty, while Gilles was fast and a gentleman and (2) Gilles never whined even when he had reason too, unlike Hamilton and Senna who would whinge at the drop of a hat. To be fair Hamilton has cut down on the whining somewhat. And he is fast. But, and obviously it's a big one, how fast would he be if he had to race in a craptacular 312T5 like Gilles did in 1980, or that boat of a 126 CK in 1981?


Entered at Sun Nov 27 07:45:04 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Wallsend.........6 beers and a 25 year old blond......the only recipe ! Or watching Gilles Villeneuve - Rene Arnoux at Dijon France 1979 !


Entered at Sun Nov 27 06:46:38 CET 2016 from (114.75.195.1)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

More vacuous comments about Robbie's book, this time in Harper's Magazine.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 04:40:09 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Fred: Last race of the year today...could be a good one......I really liked Nicki Lauda's recent description of Lewis Hamilton as "Ayrton Senna-Gilles Villeneuve Fast!"

Peter V: Word perfect....and it would be nice to see that sent in to Mojo.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 03:15:36 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Woodstock that was: Music writer Barney Hoskyns salutes the one-time home of rock 'n' roll

Barney Hoskyns on rock’s recently departed

IAN MCGILLIS
Published on: April 11, 2016
Montreal Gazette


Entered at Sun Nov 27 03:10:45 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JOHN D....Bill M's got it now.

Wallsend's post......The Testimony of Robbie Robertson
BARNEYHOSKYNS.COM


Entered at Sun Nov 27 02:54:45 CET 2016 from (24.114.64.196)

Posted by:

Bill M

"Self-regarding" - what was Barney expecting of an autobiography? Yeesh!

I put it down to bitterness from being so badly outgunned. So much of that detail - and much more - has always been available to the diligent. Barney has nothing about the Klagermans, not just because he wasn't family but also because he didn't think of the Toronto phonebook, where Jason Schneider found Uncle Morrie in time to get some detail for his "Whispering Pines" book.

John D: I think that BEG was simply saying she took back the copy she'd bought for $25 and bought a new one for $12.50. Makes sense to me.

Norbert: I'm glad you turned up after a long absence. There's also the pre-war "Narziss and Goldmund" - an entwined pair like Robbie and Levon. Spooky action at a distance.


Entered at Sun Nov 27 02:35:24 CET 2016 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Hoskyns

I always thought that hoskyns was a bit of a goof. A wanker. A pretty good writer but it always bothered me that he thought he was the be all, end all authority of The Band. His research was good but he relied too much on "he said, she said" If he has really stated what I'm reading here of his take on Robbie's book, then he's being very obtuse and lacking in intelligence and sensitivity. He should have said nothing!


Entered at Sun Nov 27 00:33:44 CET 2016 from (210.86.76.174)

Posted by:

Rod

thanks Jeff.

Hoskyns was also quite hard on Robbie in his book. I think I've read just about every Band article ever written and I could see alot of them being paraphrased in both Hoskyns and Levon's books. SOme being passed off as Levon's recollections. Looking forward to starting on Testimony tonight.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 23:21:49 CET 2016 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Hoskyns

"unengaging and soulless" - Anything to that criticism? I haven't got the book yet.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 22:58:22 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I've often defended Hoskyns, and he is a good writer BUT attacking a book which will sit next to yours on the shelves is appalling behaviour for a professional author. It's something that can only look like a sour, vengeful, competitive and really dumb move. Which is what Hoskyns review has made him look like.

It all goes back to those rejected liner notes for the remasters, but if you call someone a "vain power freak" in your book, you may or may not be right, but you cannot expect them to approve of your liner notes to their work.

If I were in Robbie's place, however good they were, I'd have rejected them. You don't pay someone who dislikes and disrespects you to comment on your lifes work.

Hoskyns review demeans himself. A really stupid move.

And he is also totally wrong.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 22:46:56 CET 2016 from (87.144.162.45)

Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Stehpinkeln nach 22 Uhr verboten
Web: My link

Subject: En Attendant

Long ago, before the great wars, an extraordinary man was born. He was a prophet, a visionary and long ago he wrote about our very GB. This GB wasn’t even born, The WWW had yet to be invented, The Band wasn’t even formed yet, still he already knew all about us and our little GB.

He visualized us perfect and all he needed was a tree and two man and a two-act masterpiece.

For over 60 years’ people wondered what was this mysterious masterpiece about? There are hundreds of books written about the strange power, the melancholy of this fabulous play. But it’s like a Dylan song, no one had a clue…

Till yesterday evening, after my wife and I had celebrated the new house we bought and drank a little too much, we had weird sex and I bumped my head rather hard against the wooden ceiling of our old German house. I sobered up in a split second and suddenly I knew what this famous play was all about…...

It was this very GB! Could that be true? So long before this GB was even made?

Could this brilliant play with only 2 characters and a tree reflect the inners of this GB perfectly? The more I thought about it the more evidence I found and now I’m a 100% sure, although I still have no clue how he managed this. Then again there are more things that exist and where no explanation is given for yet, Dark Matter or Quantum Mechanics just to name two.

He wrote his best piece in French as he lived in Paris. His name is Samuel Beckett and he wrote ‘Waiting for Godot’ special for us.
Aren’t we all waiting for Godot? Isn’t that what this GB is all about? Don’t take this mystery back into the dark Bill ;-) it’s a masterpiece and so is The Band and so are we.

Have a nice weekend all.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 22:20:12 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

....and I should add that I once very much liked Barny Hoskyns. I really enjoyed his book on the Band and all sorts of other things he had written as well. Being dismissed/unused on that "liner notes" project for The Band's box set and I would guess hearing Robbie for years saying no one had written a good book on The Band must really have affected him.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 21:49:55 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Hoskyns

What a clown, Hoskyns is. Had he had any dignity left at all, he would have politely declined to comment on the book. You can bet that he had those comments ready before reading anything at all about the book and I would also guarantee that all he did read were a few of the excerpts released prior to publication..........Hoskyns, let's sadly remember mercifully ridicuculed Rick Danko after his death, regularly describes Levon and Garth as unsophisticated simpletons and has an almost unmatched hatred of Robbie Robertson.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 21:45:58 CET 2016 from (96.239.25.33)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: name

Jan, could remove the heading on my previouds postm .My autofill went crazy


Entered at Sat Nov 26 21:40:55 CET 2016 from (96.239.25.33)

Posted by:

Joan K Carlton

Location: Port Washington

Subject: Hoskyns

Did Barney read the same book I'm reading? What a bunch of bitternes


Entered at Sat Nov 26 19:57:00 CET 2016 from (174.1.36.190)

Posted by:

Lisa

Wow, talk about snarky sour grapes!


Entered at Sat Nov 26 18:09:19 CET 2016 from (114.75.195.1)

Posted by:

Wallsend

This is what Barney Hoskyns wrote about Robbie's book:

MOJO gave me a mere 150 words on this, but here’s my tuppenceworth on “an unengaging and soulless read”… THE BAND’S STORY continues to beguile: how did a group so rich in talent and promise implode so hopelessly, only to pull the rabbit out of the hat with such a spectacular leaving do? Almost a quarter century after the late Levon Helm published his own autobiography, de facto Band leader/guitarist/songwriter Robertson finally has his own say in the solemnly-titled Testimony. (Did he, one wonders, wait for Levon to go before committing pen to paper?) The sad truth is that Testimony makes for an unengaging and soulless read. While there’s much to learn and many gaps filled in for the curious, the book is written in a clichéd style of numbing if self-regarding banality. However much sympathy one has with Robertson’s desperate attempts to herd The Band’s cats, there’s rarely the sense here of a flesh-and-blood human being behind the rote recollections. Helm’s book may have been written by Stephen Davis, but the drummer’s irresistible voice was audible in its every phrase.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 17:06:38 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG

You don't say why you returned Testimony? Did I miss something?


Entered at Sat Nov 26 14:50:45 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I returned Testimony.
I repurchased it for 12.50. I also bought Springsteen's Born To Run for 12.50. Really free for me as both books were bought with gift cards from students. Huh? Both books were 15.00 on Black Friday but I received an Eaton Centre Mall 5.00 gift card to use anywhere in the mall.

DUNC...and I lived with a Scotsman for two years who inspired me to become a frugalista. ;-D

Off to the Royal Ontario Museum to check out the Chihuly exhibit.....A beautiful morning.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 12:25:32 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Testimony

I got an Amazon price guarantee reduction through.

I've only just started, but even though I have heard bits like the Morris Levy encounter before, things shine out: the descriptive power that puts you there watching Howlin' Wolf (for example), and the care in construction and flow. Unlike most rock autobiographies, there is a master storyteller at work here. Robbie criticised Hoskyns for recreating conversations he was not present at. Hoskyns particularly irritated me by describing concerts from bootleg audios as if he'd been present. This is New Journalism 101 of course, but Robbie WAS there. I know that the reproduced dialogue will shift (if he had a time machine and went back and recorded them, there'd be ums, ers, false starts, different words etc), this is what writers do, smooth them out. And he is a writer.

Levon's autobiography flew when you thought Stephen Davies was transcribing taped interviews and you felt Levon's voice, but he didn't get it all, and had to rely on stuff to connect the tapes and assemble the book … the Ronnie Hawkins Rolling Stone interview (1969?) was mined by Davies and Hoskyns. He had to switch to (e.g.) Rick to get a story.

Robbie's technical construction, even this early on, is at a higher level.

Another bit is fascinating detail, like how they loaded the Hawk trailer with gear, supervised by Levon. Every band spent time perfecting a loading order and system. You realise they must have relied on house PA systems (as The Beatles had to) and using whatever piano was there … a swine for the keyboard player. By the late 60s in the UK, everyone was carrying their own PA system and no one would have trusted a house piano, much to the benefit of Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer. Technically it meant a shift from the short wheel base Ford Transit van as vehicle of choice to the long wheel base Ford Transit. Though interestingly nowadays, all the small club venues seem to have first rate house PA systems and house mixing desks, so it's back to The Hawks days.

I think of Paul Simon a couple of weeks ago, with two huge trucks and the gleaming black band bus parked outside. Yes, even the Beatles in early tours could get it all in a small van. The Hawks could get it in a trailer.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 10:50:29 CET 2016 from (86.169.200.214)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Jeff

Thanks, Jeff. I have been to Balmedie but before Trump built the golf resort. It is a semi wild coastal area with a beach. The people, whose houses are beside the golf resort, would not sell out to Trump so he berated them, then built walls so people playing golf would not see their homes.

There are parallels with America, Jeff. Alex Salmond, the ex leader of the Scottish parliament, courted Trump initially because of his promise of jobs, but then distanced himself from him, when his comments at the time he was seeking the Republican nomination were seen as unacceptable.

There are people who are supportive of Trump because they see him as helping the economic situation in the area. But many despise him.

He has also taken over Turnberry, an iconic golf course, which hosts The Open Championship and refurbished the hotel, creating jobs. Again people are divided about this, but I think the majority don't like Trump.

Remember, Trump had a Scottish mother and he has visited his mother's home in Stornoway.

I should point out that golf is accessible to the working man here, but there are a few courses which would not have women or me as a member because I'm not connected enough. I despise this attitude.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 03:47:38 CET 2016 from (114.75.200.5)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

A clip from the Wellington performance of TLW.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 02:48:13 CET 2016 from (24.114.94.105)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I paid $25 at Indigo Bayview Village, Toronto. The autographed copies on sale in smaller towns in the UK seems an interesting marketing strategy. Perhaps the smaller markets are being targeted differently.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 01:47:13 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Happy Anniversary Rod :-)


Entered at Sat Nov 26 01:30:54 CET 2016 from (24.114.70.163)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

Subject: "Testimony" on sale

Indigo in Sherway Gardens in Etobicoke has "Testimony" (the book) for $15. Maybe just a today thing, I don't know. Last week Coles at Cloverdale had it for $25, which I though was pretty good. Not coincidentally, the owner of both chains (and Chapters), Heather Reisman, is one of the first people thanked in Robbie's acknowledgements.


Entered at Sat Nov 26 00:40:07 CET 2016 from (210.86.76.174)

Posted by:

Rod

Testimony has arrived. Busy weekend though - do you think I could get away with cancelling my anniversary dinner? (Just kidding)


Entered at Fri Nov 25 22:15:57 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: A journalist's view of Hillary as a candidate

This week on BBC Radio 4, there has been a series of five short programmes about the U.S. election under the title "Letters From America". This is one of them:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b083h0tp

I offer this not to provoke further discussion herein [indeed, I shall be away from a PC over the next several days, unsure of whether I'll have any internet access at all anyway]. This broadcast reflects some of the views I expressed earlier - if anything, this guy is more critical than I was.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 22:06:42 CET 2016 from (152.72.151.77)

Posted by:

Brendan

Location: Norfolk County Ontario

Subject: Rick Danko Norfolk County, Ontario roots

This is a video made by a couple from Norfolk County showing pics of Rick from his youth in Norfolk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mOMjai8Fv0


Entered at Fri Nov 25 17:40:37 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Dunc

Have you been to Balmedie? Trump built some walls there.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 16:56:48 CET 2016 from (83.68.10.60)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Subject: Robbie Robertson: Testimony, page 439-440

-- "By now I was in the zone. I grabbed an acoustic guitar, tuned it to an open D, and sang for the guys my first draft of "Acadian Driftwood". (...) When I finished playing the song through, Levon patted me on the back and said, "Now that's some songwritin' right there, son." I was proud that he felt so strongly about it. --


Entered at Fri Nov 25 14:47:15 CET 2016 from (79.75.171.20)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: Radio

Ian W - I used to love Original Masters presented by John Cavangh on radio Scotland. He is still going strong and all the shows are archived on his website (Linked above) I still remember him playing Jupiter Hollow on the radio. These days we are spoiled for choice with all the Internet radios stations.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 13:59:49 CET 2016 from (197.211.63.56)

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Entered at Fri Nov 25 13:35:30 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Radio programmes recorded

Yes, Peter, like you, I have lots of radio broadcasts on cassette - In Concerts, radio documentaries, some interviews, spoken word and on and on. I also have dozens of MiniDiscs with similar material but I haven't checked them of late.

I do have 10 Columbia Radio Hour cassettes (official ones sent to me by the programme after some prompting by a friend of mine) and these include two of the "Christmas With Cockburn" programmes (Bruce, of course -1992 and 1993). The former has spots by Lou Reed ("Christmas in February")and Roseanne Cash. The latter has Jackson Browne as the guest.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 12:43:09 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

For a moment there I thought it was Jerry Ragovoy being discussed rather than Seth Rogovoy. I remembered that Jerry Ragovoy left us in 2011 so I was confused. Jerry Ragovoy, being a major songwriter, would have been an opinion worth hearing.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 12:25:45 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: C90

I dumped most cassettes - I used to tape Paul Gambaccinni's American show every Saturday, and all those "Wow! Stereo live concerts!" What i did keep was a large collection of spoken voice stories, mainly kids / teen. I bought a cassette to USB box for £18, but I haven't got round to starting. Gems on tape include the original "Red Dwarf" read aloud and Kenneth Williams "Just William" - even better than Martin Jarvis, if that's possible,


Entered at Fri Nov 25 12:12:10 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: BBC Radio Scotland

BBC Radio Scotland was a favourite station when I lived in Scotland and, later, lived in the far north of England. Looking though boxes of cassettes recently (do I keep them, do I chuck them out or do I convert them?), I found some "Original Masters" programmes, a series on Border Ballads and a few other bits and pieces. Will I ever find time to listen to them again?


Entered at Fri Nov 25 11:37:34 CET 2016 from (86.169.200.208)

Posted by:

Duncan

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks Ian and Wallsend. The interview is really great and I might have missed it, being tuned into Radio Scotland for news, current affairs etc. It helps that the interviewer is really knowledgeable and understands the importance of the tour.

Thanks, Jeff. I can't work out the Leon Russell story, but it is amazing.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 11:28:14 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Black Friday

Black Friday has existed in he UK for about 3 or 4 years and crept in from the internet. Last year it was embraced with gusto. This year even more. It is ludicrous, because Thursday is just Thursday here. Friday is just another Friday. Several stores yesterday had "Black Friday starts Thursday." While one advertised "Black Five Day" last Monday. I'm not complaining, I just booked two overnight stays for theatre at around 40% discount for March and early April.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 10:21:49 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

IanW

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Robertson on BBC's TODAY programme - extended version

As I was travelling, I didn't hear Robbie on the BBC's TODAY programme yesterday but I did put it on "record" on the TiVo box. So, this morning, I fast-forwarded through the whole programme to find it. At the end, they said they would put up a longer version as a podcast.

This is the link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04hmkkl

I don't know if you can get it outside the UK but I believe that it will only be available for about another 5 days.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 09:21:29 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Jeff A.

Not sure why he wrote this but like many he has an opinion he'd like to advance.I rarely respond to articles but I tend to get annoyed when people take sides in a feud that they are not involved with and assume a position based on what they read by RR or Levon.None of us were there and will never know who did or said what-we can only choose a side and Rogovy,in this case,takes a side based on his fandom-not enough to be real or factual.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 09:05:05 CET 2016 from (114.75.197.181)

Posted by:

Wallsend

That is a harsh review especially considering the guy left half way through. I think doing a Last Waltz tribute is pretty much a no-win situation for any performer because they will be compared to the original and inevitably come up short. With any tribute band that wants some credibility it is probably best to approach it from the point of view of 'music inspired by ..' rather than simply trying to emulate.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 08:24:01 CET 2016 from (210.86.76.174)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

here's a review of the Wellington gig. I don't agree with every thing he says but he does makes some valid points (I was sitting right behind SS and he did disappear at half time)


Entered at Fri Nov 25 07:48:27 CET 2016 from (210.86.76.174)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: TLW NZ

great photos from TLW NZ. The guitar player really had that Robbie ROA look going. I'll forgive him for the Jazz Master guitar as Nels Cline from Wilco plays one. The drummer was amazing and nailed those Levon fills. His body language was very similiar to watch. Great to see those Garth shots as most of the time he was hidden behind the keyboards - much like he always was.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 05:01:14 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jed. Rogovoy has written some presentable "Secret Jewish History of........." articles. While there is some material to work with for some one so inclined, this article is poorly conceived & presented. Why Rogovoy would present this kind of pure dreck is beyond me.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 01:54:50 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Prior Post/Link

The link is to a piece on RR's book & my response(including my typos).I also hope that iI was clear that,as a fan,the writer and I,and all the rest of us are fans & we may have opinions,but opinions are not always representitive of the truth! Happy Thanksgiving!


Entered at Fri Nov 25 01:54:02 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: TLW NZ

I agree. Whoever took those photos of the NZ TLW - Congratulations! You caught the excitement.


Entered at Fri Nov 25 01:51:49 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

http://forward.com/culture/354993/the-secret-jewish-history-of-robbie-robertson-and-the-band/?utm_content=culture_Newsletter_MainList_Title_Position-1&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Automated%20Culture%20-%20Thursday%202016-11-24&utm_term=Arts


Entered at Fri Nov 25 00:53:35 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

What's cookin' Roz? Apologies as I signalled out Joan as she posts from time to time and in the past sent out wishes to Canada in October for our own Thanksgiving celebration.

TLW reached India as well......

"The Band is a sadly underrated band. I don’t really know why. The four Canadians and one American (the late Helm was from Arkansas) were geniuses. Their music was at once folky and psychedelic. And when they backed Dylan, it boosted his songs to even higher levels than where they already were at – which is, as we all know, pretty high. And when they evolved as a proper band on their own, they touched yet another pinnacle."

Pat B....Bourdain was in Chi Town today....well rerun. Keep me informed of your gigs as one day......So whoever thought you were a woman....before my time.....probably same person who thought I was black, Indigenous.....blah, blah, blah.... :-D


Entered at Fri Nov 25 00:12:21 CET 2016 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

Peter, I'm uncertain whether you recall that very early on I once posted a long comparison between the Rascals and the Band. Of course, one of the gatekeepers went off on such perceived nonsense, which was additionally humorous because he thought I was female and ladled on some sexist bullshit to boot. Big deal. The Rascals stage show from a few years back was incredible--I saw it twice when it was here in Chicago.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 23:10:42 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: NZ TLW

Absolutely great photos. Many thanks.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 22:38:05 CET 2016 from (114.23.128.19)

Posted by:

Russell Parkinson

Subject: Last Waltz 40th Anniversary Auckland NZ

Here is a link for the review, set list and photos from the last waltz anniversary concert in Auckland New Zealand. Great show, a real celebration. https://www.13thfloor.co.nz/?p=76621


Entered at Thu Nov 24 20:56:58 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Pat, as I said, in the UK today in mass market shops. I expected you on The Rascals!


Entered at Thu Nov 24 19:35:09 CET 2016 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

Should there be a designated day upon which detailed discussion of Testimony may begin? I know our Euro friends received it later than the American contingent and I don't want to ruin it for them.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 18:44:58 CET 2016 from (114.75.197.181)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Robbie on the BBC. At the end he says he is working on the second volume of his autobiography and may also do a TV series about the history of rock music.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 17:22:46 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For The Dankettes


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

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Entered at Thu Nov 24 17:02:43 CET 2016 from (107.77.106.117)

Posted by:

JCF

Location: Queens, NYC; Delaware County, NY
Web: My link

Subject: see link

Happy Thanksgiving All


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Posted by:

JCF

Location: NYC, Delaware County, NY

Subject: Today

Happy Thanksgiving All: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Vt93A25YA


Entered at Thu Nov 24 17:00:39 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Kind and Generous


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I Thank You


Entered at Thu Nov 24 16:42:00 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Every time I walk past the Elgin Theatre I reflect on seeing TLW in 1978 not once but twice that night.....such a night. I am thankful for The Band, Jan H's website, and all music genres.....

Happy Healthy Thanksgiving to Joan and all the boyzzz who celebrate and post here.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 14:17:50 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Testimony book …

For UK readers. I ordered mine on Amazon, promised for first day delivery. It arrived late yesterday afternoon. So I went into Waterstones, Castle Point, Bournemouthth is morning … and there it was £4 OFF, and SIGNED BY AUTHOR and indeed it was. I admired Robbie's signature, contemplated buying another … maybe I could give my amazon on as a Christmas present, but my sister won't know who he is. So WATERSTONES … not AMAZON!


Entered at Thu Nov 24 14:15:37 CET 2016 from (41.162.7.114)

Posted by:

Nux Schwartz

Location: Durban South Africa

Subject: Roger

Hey Roger,will you be in Durban? My no:0835403499.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 13:54:01 CET 2016 from (150.107.8.234)

Posted by:

Craw fordbrien

Subject: johnscornor@gmail.com

http://fietsmaatj.es/blogs/post/9826 http://leagues.jayceegolfcourse.com/blogs/post/3098


Entered at Thu Nov 24 12:31:05 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Legend and The Legacy

Couldn't sleep. I'm sitting here at 3 am listening to a youtube I never tire of.

It is wonderful and quite exciting to listen to the comments of Robbie's book. This has been an extraordinary year. Of the events and so many artists lost this year the most difficult for me is the loss of Merle Haggard.

Not to often do you get to see a legacy carried on after a legend of the magnetude of Merle haggard.

Amy Helm carrying on the legacy of her Dad is soon all we will have left of the BAND.

Listen to Merle Haggard's sons sing here. It is gawd damn amazing. His youngest Ben will surely be his own shining star. Marty, the oldest I saw in Vancouver years ago and tho' he sings well he doesn't have the dynamic of his younger brother. Noel and Ben together here bring Merle back to life.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 09:56:27 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Rod, I'm glad you were pleased with the show. That's a honest review. Not easy to run across anymore.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 09:54:40 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Leon Russell In The Dark. A Must Read


Entered at Thu Nov 24 07:45:36 CET 2016 from (210.86.76.174)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: TLW NZ 40

Not a bad concert all things considered. The stage was set up just like it was on the night with all the gear in the right place (grand piano, Garth's setup and a 2nd set of drums) and chandeliers hanging from the ceiling. The format was that either John Simon would talk about something or they would play the interviews from Shangri-la on a huge screen behind the stage followed by a few songs. While the band was playing they had the curtains from TLW displayed on the screen which looked really good. The first half was basically The Band's set with the "guests" on in the 2nd half. Was great to see them play Life is Carnival and Don't Do It with a horn section. I thought they may have avoided those two as they are tricky ones. The 2nd half got a bit messy in places with The Weight and Coyote not really up to scratch but the guitarist from "the band" did a great version of Out Of The Blue. They should have really let "the band" do more of their own vocals as the specialist singers often didn't hit the spot.

On to Garth. He looks very old and frail now but he turned in a great version of The Genetic Method and played some nice piano behind Sister Maude on IMND. I was surprised how good her voice sounded. There was to be a meet and greet for those of us who paid the extra price but unfortunately that cot cancelled - with a refund.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 07:32:00 CET 2016 from (169.1.211.80)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Testimony

We're currently away on a road trip in South Africa (quick shout out to Nux) and I've not been looking in to the GB or listening to the Beeb. But I just spent 20 mins reading through all I've missed here - and now need to start ordering the new Heylin book and other things. I note Peter's comment about the traction that Testimony is generating. Putting on the BBC flagship news programme 'Today' I was amazed to hear Robbie (though not surprised to hear yet another reprise of the phenomenon of booing the 66 tour). It was flagged right at the head of the show.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 03:10:52 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you, Joe. Great to learn this.


Entered at Thu Nov 24 02:13:00 CET 2016 from (76.66.109.121)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I've never read anything about the Hawks meeting the Young Rascals, but it could have happened. Three of the Rascals had been in Joey Dee and the Starlighters, whose records were produced by Henry Glover, who was producing Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks at the same time ('61-'63) and who produced the Hawks' first post-Hawkins release (in '65). Jimi Hendrix was in a subsequent Starlighters lineup at around the same time he had the Blue Flames - who sometimes included John Hammond, who was around the same time hanging around with and recording with the Hawks. (Randy California, later of Spirit, was in the Blue Flames too.)


Entered at Thu Nov 24 00:12:41 CET 2016 from (69.204.183.125)

Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Albany, NY

Subject: Between Trains and the the Rascals

Kevin, Between Trains is now available on the King of Comedy soundtrack. Released on Wounded Bird records last month. Peter V. The Rascals reunion in 2014/15 was terrific. I saw them twice. They were the soundtrack of my teens. Joe


Entered at Wed Nov 23 20:04:56 CET 2016 from (184.146.91.95)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Testimony & Between Trains

I liked how the New York Times described Testimony as having "the mythic sweep of an early Terrence Malick movie".

I also loved the (out of )order and song selections of the cd but what is it with "Between Trains" and never showing up on anything. Can't be a label thing after all this time - can it ? David P loved that song. Has anybody ever asked Robbie about this at any event.....Pat B's mix of it with other Band songs was also fabulous.........Testimony Part 2, I guess.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 19:22:59 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Young rascals

Actually, I've spent the day listening to the Good Lovin' album by The Young Rascals, a classic, and somehow in choice of material more like a British R&B band … or indeed The Hawks. They must have been a great live band in the soul era.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 19:13:00 CET 2016 from (114.75.203.130)

Posted by:

Wallsend

The choice is yours Peter, but know that your credibility as a true fan is on the line.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 18:58:39 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Testimony

My copy arrived ten minutes ago. I have three packed days with other stuff … should I start or wait?

Thanks Ian for the "Judas!" notes. I have just ordered it.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 17:36:25 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bob.....I needed a smile, thank you ! My note was directed at me as much as anyone...as I have the book but will only begin reading it in January......but I find myself hearing and reading all these things and thinking to myself.....stop ! All that said, I did read the first page and it alone provides so much to savour and look forward to.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 17:24:30 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Memo To Field Commander Kevin J

Kev, I think Robbie and his team would be very happy people are talking and writing about the book. A little controversy mixed with a lot of warm fuzzy will only increase sales. If you don't want to hear about it or read about it, do what Leonard did and find a mountain to meditate on. Your buddy, Bob F


Entered at Wed Nov 23 17:11:11 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Classical Piano Election Blues

I've had this festering cold that refuses to hit full force for about a week. I figured it's just a cold, that going to the dr would be pointless, but now finally called my doctor ( a renowned concert pianist) The man said" ..it sounds like the same cold everyone is walking around with for a few weeks. I'm calling it the election cold...." I asked him if that means it is going to last for 4 years.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 17:06:24 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Stop with the spoilers already.......

For those planning on reading Testimony, I would suggest that it is best not to read or listen to every single interview. Allow yourself to be surprised and delighted or disappointed by reading the story as it is written. A horse head in the bed is just not a horse head anymore when you've seen or read about it too often before seeing the movie.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 16:53:48 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

PS I Love You


Entered at Wed Nov 23 16:42:46 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

At Steve Earle's concert.....Hockey man Dave Hodge was the host..Steve gave props to Mary Martin who he said was not too far away and......The Band! I yelled out "The Hawks"! I really enjoyed seeing Steve once again but this time in his own element with his own band even though we had to stand for four hours as other bands performed before Steve hit the stage. One from Jersey had a guitar player who looked like Southside Johnny and sang like Bruce. Anyway, after four hours I knew there would be a few more songs and then all the bands would be up on stage but.......for some reason I felt really faint......even if Robbie was on stage I wouldn't have been able to stay as it was too crowded to find a place to lay my head and still hear the music.....next time buy more expensive tickets and sit upstairs!!!!!!!.......I left my friend and somehow quickly walked home as I lived across the street and luckily no yahoos were in sight. When I first heard "Galway Girl" in a film with Gerard Butler....Uhhhh.....Don't laugh Pat B......i thought he was actually singing the song and not Steve Earle.....as Guitar Town was not really on my radar when it first came out. Ok you can laugh. I can take it from a buddy.
Long live Galway Girl!


Entered at Wed Nov 23 16:27:28 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Dylan/Hawks books

I haven't yet got TESTIMONY, so cannot comment but I do have Clinton Heylin's JUDAS! book. Indeed, I supplied a number of the contemporary articles on which he draws.

Judas!is an interesting and stimulating read,particularly in the way he infers Dylan's feelings/thinking at certain times, from his press conference answers, the way he performs songs and his words to his audiences. He may well be right but I suspect that Dylan himself may not be sure these days, since he was so out of it at times.

JUDAS!should be read along with Heylin's liner notes for LIVE '66. They contain some errors (EG: the Lockheed Lodestar they flew in was not a jet but an old WWII aircraft, the Sheffield venue in 1966 was not the same one he played in 1965 and the Stars and Stripes flag behind the performers at Paris was there beforehand and during the whole show, not erected in the interval) but these should not put you off buying the book. I doubt you'll read it with equanimity and I would surprised if it did not result in discussion of its contents herein.

The previous book on this subject (1988's GHOST OF ELECTRICITY by John Bauldie) has been republished with a new set of photographs and without, for example, the list of contemporary articles on which it drew. This omission is a shame, as this book was based on the way the tour was reported at the time and the basic text is unaltered. The scope of JUDAS! is wider than that of GHOST OF ELECTRICITY, the latter being mainly about the 1966 shows and, indeed, about the Australian and European legs of that tour,in particular.

GHOST OF ELECTRICITY also lacked the benefit of the release of the LIVE '66 box-set. In addition, it lacked the benefit of three recent articles (in the Dylan fanzine Isis) on the Australian '66 tour by Zac Dadic, who undertook a huge amount of research on the subject. My understanding is that Clinton Heylin had to virtually rewrite the Australian sections of his book following the publication of these three articles. I would like to think that Zac takes the time to expand those articles into a book of his own.

As an aside, Zac managed to get copies of the Australian exit forms that passengers had to complete then and Dylan described his occupation as "Tunesmith"!

Zac also got to communicate with Richard Alderson, the sound engineer on the Australian and European tours and his articles were the first I can recall reading that benefited from that exchange.

Finally, I should mention a booklet entitled "Humdinger Folk Singer" by Derek Barker, editor of the Isis fanzine. Its subtitle is "The story of Judas and the communists" and the booklet is a British perspective on the tour. As the subtitle suggests, it focuses on the reaction of British folkies and left-wingers to Dylan leaving the "folk fold" and "going electric". About half the booklet is about the British folk scene in the early 1960s and the other half to the UK leg of the 1966 tour and a summing up.

All three publications provide a useful accompaniment to the LIVE '66 box set but "JUDAS!" is the book that will be more widely available.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 16:22:19 CET 2016 from (76.66.109.121)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: forwarded note re TLW tribute in Stratford, Ontario this Saturday

Stratford, Kitchener and Perth County music fans. This Sat. Nov. 26th 7:30PM we will be celebrating the 40th Anniversary of The Last Waltz at the historic Knox Church in Stratford ON. We will dedicate this show to Stratford native Richard Manuel.

... So don't miss this ONE NITE only opportunity to see this inspiring, engaging and moving experience. Lance Anderson has brought together an all star cast and it features Jerome Levon Avis (Levon Helm's godson) on drums and vocals. Also his Dad Bill Avis (road manager for THE BAND from the early sixties with the Hawks, to Bob Dylan and THE BAND, The Last Waltz and the Band reunions, and Levon Helm with the Cate Brothers. Bill will say a few words.

The Canadian Blues All-stars :THE LAST WALTZ - A Musical Celebration of THE BAND - Live featuring Jerome Levon Avis, Chuck Jackson, Matt Weidinger and Coco Larain will be bringing the music of Sweet Richard and the other band members to Stratford. Get your tickets now: https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/the-last-waltz-a-musical-celebr... or by phone at: 1 800 259-5116


Entered at Wed Nov 23 16:15:35 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Don't get on to maths, Norm! Though kids today seem weaker at fast mental arithmetic than we were, the 11 and 13 year old are doing stuff I never ever got around to. We have our two older grandkids for homework on Tuesday evenings. Mrs V can just about manage the maths, though is worried about next year. it has already passed me. On arithmetic, it is said that the British duodecimal pounds, shillings, pence system forced us to be good at arithmetic (working with 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 20 just to buy stuff).

On the other hand, I don't much like the way they do history. Half a term on the Norman Conquest, then switch to Slavery in the 18th and 19th centuries. I fear for a chronological overview!


Entered at Wed Nov 23 16:05:34 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: It's a different World

Yesterday I was talking to my Grand daughter Elena on the phone. I said how is school going Elena? She said good Grandpa, I'm learning about Vincent van Gogh. She is seven! I never even knew about Vincent van Gogh much until Don McClean sang his song.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 15:51:08 CET 2016 from (83.0.247.81)

Posted by:

Suzie

Web: My link

beautiful photographs, greet


Entered at Wed Nov 23 15:20:30 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

browne eyed girl

Web: My link

For Norbert....Holland's Sjako "hurt" versie 2014 live in "de kroeg" Geldrop.
This band has covered The Band's songs. Norbert somehow contacted a rep for this band and the bass player contacted me. It was his smiley that I continue to use in my posts and emails...... :-D


Entered at Wed Nov 23 14:52:58 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

John Fogerty Talks about his bitterness.
1998


Entered at Wed Nov 23 14:49:23 CET 2016 from (67.71.41.191)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Good morning John D....I took a look at your photos with Robbie and I'm pretty sure I saw the first one right? Very cool job you've had John. Your musical experiences are priceless.....always the best experiences. I probably would have shown too much emotion to interview my favourite musicians.
Many thanks for alerting us to Robbie's interview on q.....linked today and listening right at this moment.....guns??

Tuesday November 22, 2016
Robbie Robertson walks through the fire to write his memoir Testimony


Entered at Wed Nov 23 11:19:53 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Testimony CD

While this is an interesting compilation, and it will be instructive to see how a non-chronological walk through the catalogue works, it does have missed opportunities. It looks like fans will have everything. A track from Carny and "Between Trains" would have greatly boosted its desirability for old hands.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 09:57:16 CET 2016 from (114.75.203.128)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, I think a lot of the interest in Testimony is because of the Dylan connection. In this regard, Robbie is not just an old rock musician but was in a unique position in relation to Dylan at a crucial time in his career. He can report first hand on the booing, the motor cycle accident and so on. Robbie has been criticised because he stuck closely to Dylan and was also close to Albert Grossman so it is interesting to get his perspective. I will not be buying the new version of TLW. Although I am in the Robbie camp with regard to the feud I find his tendency to constantly repackage the same material a bit annoying.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 08:53:29 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

An interesting thing about “Testimony” is the high level of interest. It’s easily up there with Rod Stewart and Neil Young’s books which came out almost together. Both Mojo and Uncut feature interviews. We sometimes feel The Band is an arcane interest, but obviously it’s wider than that.

I see Clinton Heylin has just issued his analysis of the 65/66 tour under the title” Judas: From Forest Hills to The Free Trade Hall. A Historical View of The Big Boo.” A lengthy title. So he’s not doing the last bit in London? He is riding on Testimony's coat tail, I suspect.

Also I’m torn on the new TLW set. I can’t see what is there that is not on the last box set. DVD to BluRay? But in fact, if you have a TV in a large room, the upgrade isn’t massive. As TV producer colleagues say, Bluray really comes into its own when you are sitting too close. A bluray player with upscaling looks pretty good with a DVD from 20 feet away. And anyway, the first batch of 4K Blurays are in the shops, and they DO look like an upgrade. They’ll be in the 50th Anniversary box (if Trump hasn’t blown us all To Kingdom Come … I get away with that political sentence because I got a Band song title in there!)


Entered at Wed Nov 23 07:05:03 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Don't Be Cruel

The cruelty must have been the evening John D. was there. I was there I believe on the second night and I heard no evidence of 'cruelty' at all.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 03:57:31 CET 2016 from (24.114.66.2)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Teronno

I went to see Robbie last night. It was wonderful. Even interviewer Strombo was minimally intrusive: he'd attempt the odd one- or three-word deflection that Robbie would acknowledge with a "Yes, and ..." and then go back to the interesting story or observation that he was in the middle of. Great love for Levon was expressed several times. Most of the focus was the early days - pre-Hawks and Hawks, and I suspect it would have stayed that way had Strombo not jumped from Big Pink straight to Last Waltz. There was a fair bit about how it came together and about Boris Levin the set designer and about the material that will be included in the four TLW40 packages. Oh yes - JT and John D will be delighted to know that the Massey Hall audiences in '65 were the cruelest of all. I suspect that was not in an absolute sense but in the sense that the Hawks had built up the idea (and convinced Dylan) that they would be welcomed home as prodigal sons. Not!


Entered at Wed Nov 23 00:45:15 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Billy Connolly on Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRStOmd3weE


Entered at Wed Nov 23 00:23:57 CET 2016 from (114.75.203.128)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Seems the Mojo article is a bit more explicit although what is in the book is clear enough.


Entered at Wed Nov 23 00:12:55 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Robbie in Mojo

QUOTE: He didn't like the music, he didn't like the songs - at that time. He didn't like the fame game that was going on with Dylan because it didn't feel real to him. He wasn't comfortable in New York City, he wasn't comfortable around that many Jews. I write about this when he's telling me he wants to leave and he says, " I don't like this goddamn music, I don't like Albert Grossman and I don't like being surrounded by all these goddamn ..." And he stopped himself, but I knew where he was going. END Quote


Entered at Tue Nov 22 23:47:50 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Robbie was on q this morning; on CBC; with Tom Power. They are re-running it tonight; but if you Google it you can hear it now.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 23:35:08 CET 2016 from (114.75.203.128)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I don't know what is in Mojo so I cannot say if it is the same or not but in the book it says

"' .... And I don't want to be around Bob Dylan and all these New York ...'. He stopped himself."

Is that what is written in Mojo?


Entered at Tue Nov 22 23:30:10 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Memory?

How good are our memories of music? Just leafing through my late 68 / early 69 diary. Jackie Edwards as support to The Alan Bown … clear recall of the Alan Bown as brilliant, but none of Jackie Edwards … who is a major favourite now.

Then Brian Auger & Julie Driscoll. Sharp recall of Julie Driscoll’s set but zero of the support band … yes, support band, Pink Floyd. Though I have 5/5 written against Brian Auger & Julie Driscoll and 2/5 against Pink Floyd so I must have thought them poor in comparison. I expect This Wheel’s On Fire won the day.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 22:31:51 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'm not sure I'd describe the Mojo interview as taking the high road. Is it in the book?


Entered at Tue Nov 22 22:18:20 CET 2016 from (184.146.91.95)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Let's not go there.......the one thing in life that is uplifting and great right now is this just wonderful spirit surrounding the RR book and his decision to take as he always has the high road in the relationship with Levon....of course, certain things have to be discussed but the things that are - are matters of fact.....Levon has said some hurtful things in the past but I will never ever believe that there was any kind of anti-anything involved with any of it. The times were different and I imagine he would have distrusted anybody controlling what he perceived to be the purse-strings or getting in the way of his group.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 21:37:24 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

I looked to see if it would link online, but there's just an advert for the issue. Linked.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 21:20:33 CET 2016 from (114.75.203.128)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, do you have to be a subscriber to access Mojo or is it available some where for free?


Entered at Tue Nov 22 21:07:53 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I found Ian's comments interesting and thought-provoking.

Mojo, January 2017 issue … I was kind of worried about blandness. But then we get the Mojo interview. In this in the book? My copy arrives tomorrow. The bit in the interview about WHY Levon jumped the 1965 tour in Washington? Particularly Robbie's report of Levon's remark, which obviously reflects on himself, Bob Dylan and Albert Grossman … and paints Levon as making anti-semitic comments? It's there in Mojo in black and white.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 19:18:23 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ian, no apology necessary to me. As long as we're on the subject, yesterday Trump invited heads of large media outlets & news anchors to Trump Tower for a private " off the record" meeting. Hush hush subjects. There's plenty of articles, some use quotes of his. Essentially, he threw a temper tantrum, verbally assaulted them, & threatened the. Here's what Robert Reich has to say:

"Historically, despots have used 7 techniques to destroy the independence of the media:
1. Berate the media. Yesterday Trump called two-dozen TV news anchors and executives to the Trump Tower – including Lester Holt, Charlie Rose, George Stephanopoulos, and Wolf Blitzer -- to chew them out about their reporting during the election.
2. Blacklist media that criticize them. Trump has maintained a blacklist of news outlets to which he has refused to grant event credentials. This morning he cancelled a meeting with the New York Times.
3. Turn the public against the media. Trump refers to journalists as “dishonest,” “disgusting” and “scum.” He tweets that the New York Times has lost “thousands of subscribers because of their very poor and highly inaccurate coverage of the ‘Trump phenomena.’” (The Times says it added 41,000 net paid subscriptions in the week after the election.)
4. Threaten the media. Trump says he’ll “open up our libel laws, so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.”
5. Block media access. Trump hasn’t had a news conference since July. He has blocked the media from traveling with him, or knowing whom he’s meeting with. (His phone call last week with Putin was first reported by the Kremlin.)
6. Establish their own alternative controlled media. Trump sends messages through Alt-Right Breitbart News and Fox News.
7. Bypass the media and communicate with the public directly. Trump uses tweets and videos. The word “media” comes from “intermediate” between newsmakers and the public. Trump wants to eliminate the media.
A free and independent media is essential to a democracy. Even before he’s sworn in, Trump is out to destroy that freedom and independence.
What do you think?"


Entered at Tue Nov 22 18:53:39 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Apologies

I apologise, Jeff (and others). I did not intend to resurrect a discussion that had gone away. It's just that I had gathered my thoughts and begun to type them up days ago. I was well on long before Jan's intervention.

In fact, I was probably about 90% or more through but then I got waylaid by the arrival of Dylan and The Hawks in the form of (a) Heylin's JUDAS! book and (b) the LIVE '66 box.

I didn't wish to waste what I'd already typed and ooffered them as, in effect, an outsider - albeit likely to feel the effect of the outcome, one way or another. Anyway, while my sympathies were pretty clear, I tried to avoid partisanship and make my observations in as "flat" a way as possible. In short, I tried hard to keep away from "internecine" nature of the discussion to date.

I wish you good fortune on 19th December.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 17:28:20 CET 2016 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Jeff,

H. L. Mencken wrote:

"No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby."

(The bit between the dashes even SOUNDS like YNW!)



Entered at Tue Nov 22 17:12:29 CET 2016 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Back to the music...Memory Lane?

Posted a link to this site before...sonichits.com. Seems to be a compendium of YouTube and other (quasi-legal) sources that can be sorted and filtered by artist, album, etc. A trove of Band-related stuff in there. Link above is to Levon's eponymous solo album. One annoying feature is that if a public domain source is not available for a particular track, a "related" track seems to be substituted. Still, a chance to hear a lot of stuff you may not have heard before or recently. Search 'Levon Helm' or 'Rick Danko' and see what you get. Hint: use the 'Album' button to go beyond the 'greatest hits' list that the search defaults to.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 17:08:50 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.174)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

As I indicated, if politics stayed off the table I would not discuss it without music being involved..
Ian, since you disregarded Jan's ban, I'll respond to you. In retrospect, the election of Obama to the Presidency of the U.S. pales in comparison to Trump being the President Elect. So far, what Trump's campaign has proved is that you can be disgusting vile tempered, verbally offensive,racist, a liar, a misogynist, a rapist, a fraudulent businessman, use all of that to appeal to people who are dumb enough to believe that that qualifies you t be their economic and societal savior, and still be 99.9% of the way to being the President of The U.S.

The Electors vote on Dec 19th. That is the failsafe in The Electoral College and it could be our safety net.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 15:26:30 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Article

thestar.com logo How Robbie Robertson saved Bob Dylan, Keith Moon — and also rock ’n’ roll Robbie Robertson, the guitarist, co-vocalist and chief songwriter for the Band, is sharing some rock ’n’ roll history with his new memoir Testimony and a visit to TIFF Bell Lightbox. Robbie Robertson will be at TIFF Bell Lightbox on Monday. Robbie Robertson will be at TIFF Bell Lightbox on Monday. By PETER HOWELLMovie Critic Mon., Nov. 21, 2016 A crowd of Donald Trump protesters is screaming and causing a ruckus near where Robbie Robertson, the guitarist, co-vocalist and chief songwriter for The Band, is sharing some rock ’n’ roll history. “Oh my God!” Robertson says on the line. “I’m in New York and there are people on Fifth Avenue screaming, ‘Not My President!’ ” He knows a lot about screaming and causing a ruckus. He experienced plenty of both in his years with The Band, the four-fifths Canadian group of roots rockers who changed pop music in the 1960s and early ’70s, influencing not only tour mate Bob Dylan but also such ardent admirers as Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, George Harrison and Joni Mitchell. He also literally saved rock, having rescued both Dylan and the Who’s Keith Moon from drowning on separate occasions. There were loads of fun times, too, such as when he shared Beatle John Lennon’s artfully concealed stash of weed after the Fab Four’s last ever Toronto concert in 1966. Robertson tells all in his new autobiography Testimony, which brings him to Toronto Monday night for an “In Conversation With” session at TIFF Bell Lightbox. He gives an insider’s account of some of the most famous incidents in rock history, including the 1966 “Judas!” audience revolt in Manchester, England and Dylan’s nearly fatal motorcycle crash soon after. “Judas!” was the furious cry of an audience member in Manchester’s Free Trade Hall on May 17, 1966, the day after the release of Dylan’s Blonde on Blonde album, which Robertson played on. The aggrieved fan — and many others — objected to Dylan’s shift from the folk music of his early days to the “wild mercury sound” of Blonde on Blonde, wherein Dylan strapped on an electric guitar to loudly rock out with The Band, then known as the Hawks, as he’d been doing through their European tour. Caught on a heavily bootlegged tape, it would become the taunt heard ’round the world, as folk purists everywhere rebelled against rock’s roll. Robertson remembers the “Judas!” incident as if it happened yesterday, but says it became more of a big deal in retrospect than at the time. Everything was happening so quickly back then for him and his fellow members of The Band, who included fellow Canadians Rick Danko, Richard Manuel and Garth Hudson, plus Arkansas fellow traveller Levon Helm. “It wasn’t that different from the night before, or the night after, but that one just seemed to catch fire and it was sent out into the world. But while we were playing that night, I remember when we did “Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues” and I was playing with true anger coming out of my fingers. Because people were charging the stage. Some of them wanted to do harm. People were throwing stuff.” Robertson, 73, has lived a life caught between two worlds. Born in Toronto to a Jewish father and Mohawk mother, he spent much time in the Six Nations Reserve near Brantford, where he learned to play guitar. He also learned from his Mohawk relations that the border between Canada and the U.S. doesn’t exist, as far as North America’s founding tribes are concerned. “You can’t draw a line on the land. It is kind of crazy, in a way, but these are white man’s rules. Indians would never think of boundaries. It just didn’t exist in their language.” This also helps explain why the Canadian-dominated Band found it a natural progression to create the backwoods rock of Music From Big Pink, their hugely influential 1968 debut album rich in imagery of yearning American pioneers. Latter-day disciples include Wilco, Kings of Leon, My Morning Jacket and many others under the big umbrella now called Americana music. “I always thought it was that there was a terrific irony that we, The Band, was one of the, if not the main creator, of Americana music,” Robertson says. “And I have a kind of grin to myself and say, “Uh, North Americana, thank you!” The exuberance of the Band didn’t last past their 1976 decision to call it a day, after many exhausting years on the road. They went out in grand style with an all-star concert filmmaker Martin Scorsese captured in The Last Waltz, considered by many the best rock film ever made. Robertson wanted to call it quits more than the others did — Danko, Manuel, Helm and Hudson would later regroup, although only Hudson is still alive from that breakaway crew. Rancour over what Helm in particular saw as Scorsese’s lionizing of close pal Robertson would boil for years, culminating in Helm’s bitter 1993 memoir This Wheel’s On Fire. Robertson’s Testimony concludes with the story of a recording session that only he turned up to, a sad coda to The Band’s magnificent musical experience. He’s since made solo albums — his sixth one is in the works — and composed music for films, including Scorsese’s upcoming Silence, which he calls “a meditation — a painful one, but beautiful.” He blames the bad blood on Helm’s struggles with drugs and alcohol, and later financial problems where Helm complained he didn’t get full credit for his share of the band’s success. Testimony is intended as generous testament to good times past, not as a score-settler. “I let it go, I let it go,” Robertson says with a sigh. “All the time that we were ever together, Levon and I never had a bad word … where this really came from with him, he was having financial problems, and he had to blame somebody, because he wasn’t very good assuming responsibility himself. You know, like most of us, we don’t want to take the blame. And so I just turned my back and walked away.”


Entered at Tue Nov 22 15:21:49 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Hillary Trumper

I know Jan has encouraged moving political discussion elsewhere but perhaps you will allow me some observations from afar.

Hillary and her team did not learn from her last presidential outing, albeit in the primaries in 2008.

1. Obama came to power on a “Yes, we can” slogan, indicating that, even then, many Americans sought change.

2. Obama had a lesser record of public service than Hillary at that time, showing that relative inexperience was no barrier to success in presidential elections.

3. Obama was a powerful public speaker, inspirational even, energising his supporters.

4. Obama lacked the political funding she had but used social media effectively, indicating that outspending your opponent, on TV advertising for example, was no guarantee of success.

5. Similarly, a well-oiled, precinct-by-precinct, on-the-ground organisation, while important, was no longer as crucial as it used to be.

In 2016, Trump has added some other pointers to this list:

1. Telling untruths (mud-slinging, if you like) can be effective.

[There again, if it were a requirement of politicians to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, then many, if not most, of them would be spending their days in court defending perjury charges. Trump made it more personal and more virulent, he distilled some of it to short, ‘soundbite’ slogans that resonated and he repeated them frequently].

2. Policies do not need to be carefully thought-through in advance and certainly not detailed.

[Seemingly spontaneous outbursts, gut reactions if you like, can be seen as indicating authenticity and straightforwardness. You get what you see].

3. Attitude, particularly when expressed forcefully and forthrightly, without fear or favour, is a powerful driver in gaining support and thus votes.

[One might say that Trump had little substance and was all attitude].

4. Outrageous claims may rile your opponents but will invigorate your supporters.

[It will also get you media coverage, helping overcome your opponent’s “big bucks”].

5. Whatever else we say of him (much of it negative), Trump beat not just the Democratic Party but also the GOP.

[How many Republican candidates entered the primaries? A dozen or so? Mostly professional politicians? With political track records? Trump beat them all. The improbable became the possible].

Some post-election commentary seems, to me, misplaced.

1.That Washington Is out-of-touch: Maybe, but senators and congressmen have teams back home. There are state governors and their teams. They should know the strength of feeling, the resentment, the disgruntlement and so on, far away from Washington. They should have been feeding that back to those within the Beltway. Maybe they were the folks who were out-of-touch.

2. That the “glass ceiling” was a significant factor: I can’t recall any commentator expressing the view seriously during the campaign. Hillary’s stamina was questioned but that’s about the nearest. Those who voted against Hillary because she was a woman have to be set against those who voted the opposite for the same reason. They’re as bad as one another, imo.

3. That Hillary won the popular vote: This is true, of course [by and large, Hillary won bigger in the states she won than Trump did in the states he won], but it is misplaced. That was not the task. Clarifying one’s aims is important in any enterprise but clarifying one’s main aim is essential.

Finally, I should say that, were I eligible to vote in the USA, I would have been on the wrong side of the outcome but, then, in recent years, I’ve been on the wrong side of several such outcomes over here.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 12:32:36 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: The Hawks - old rock'n'rollers in 1966

Jerry T mentioned The Hawks playing at the Concord Tavern in 1964, which prompted me to dig out a 1981 article.

It was written by Ric Sanders, later of Fairport Convention, who was one of the security guys at Dylan's "Judas" concert (Manchester 17 May 1966, as on BOOTLEG SERIES VOL.4 and now on LIVE '66).This extract concerns what happened after Dylan had finished.

"Gradually the hall emptied and then the band returned. Surrounded by the clearers-up, they started to play some old rock and roll. 'Great Balls Of Fire', a Bo Diddley, a Little Richard. These men were pouring their hearts out ... The best rock and rollers of all ... playing for their own souls. It was a privileged moment".

This article has been quoted elsewhere but, if you missed it, I thought it might be of interest to you.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 11:14:30 CET 2016 from (79.75.185.1)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: The Last Waltz 40th Anniversary Concert | Rehearsal 1

Great to hear how younger people are still influenced by The Band after all these years.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 11:01:20 CET 2016 from (79.75.185.1)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: Shovels & Rope - The Last Hawk

After reading an article about Garth Hudson making one last trip to Woodstock, Cary Ann Hearst and Michael Trent were so moved that they wrote this stirring ode to The Band's mad genius. (linked above) The January Issues of Uncut and Mojo both have good stuff on The Band.


Entered at Tue Nov 22 02:45:19 CET 2016 from (114.75.202.180)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Brief article about Robbie.


Entered at Mon Nov 21 23:29:01 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Web: My link

Subject: Sydney '66 on vinyl

In early December, Sony in Australia will be releasing the Sydney concert on a double vinyl album


Entered at Mon Nov 21 20:37:22 CET 2016 from (184.146.91.95)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: "What's New" section of this GB - John D photos - Nov 20

John D……..Thank you for that added detail on the atmosphere in and views from the studio. I was not in town in that era but know that view so well…..a view that all Torontonians are upset about having lost in a big way over the last few years – with all the mad construction of big towers going on.

I really liked photo 2 because it is actually a rare photo in the rock n roll context. The photos we are used to seeing resemble the first one where a performer might be being given an award and full rock star pose is going on…….in the 2nd photo, it is a no pose straight handshake - eyes looking at each other that just looks real and equal in the best kind of way……….and JT…….I love that connection with your Dad and think about it now every time I walk into Long & McQuade to pick up guitar things.


Entered at Mon Nov 21 15:40:26 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Robbie Robertson- my dad admired Robbie

While I'm at it, I want to let you all know that when Robbie Robertson played at the Concord Tavern, he spoke to my dad on a number of occasions. As part owner, having bought it from Jack Fisher, dad was there nightly and Levon and the Hawks had many long stints there in 1964. Dad said he was a nice boy, polite, friendly, and stood out from the crowd. Dad never spoke about any others. He never spoke about the musicians who came through so this was unique. I thought you should know as Testimony gets discussed. When I told my dad I wanted an electric guitar, dad went to Robbie to ask what and where and I ended up with a starter guitar and a small amp. That's how it was in 1964. My exposure to the rock on Saturday matinees as a 15 and 16 year old is burned in my brain and some of the songs they did then ended up on their 'Moondog Matinee' album.


Entered at Mon Nov 21 15:26:02 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Sharon Jones = personal reflections

I want to talk about Sharon Jones. Sharon Jones related to her audience in a way that made each person know that she was genuinely grateful that she was there singing her heart out to entertain them. In person, she was gracious and kind. It meant a lot to her to know that she could be that performer that could electrify an audience and make them happy. She came relatively late to the scene but her impact with the Dap Kings was important and gave a major boost to a music form. We must not forget her though she was only in the spotlight for a relatively short time. Gracious and engaging, Sharon Jones was happy to be here and loved her craft. She did it with dignity and her memory lives on in her music.


Entered at Mon Nov 21 11:06:49 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: RR & EC

Wallsend: very nice.

I'm sure someone must have already posted the clip I linked to. Robbie & Eric Clapton in 2012.


Entered at Mon Nov 21 10:10:00 CET 2016 from (114.75.208.38)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

A brief clip of Robbie with Willie Dixon.


Entered at Mon Nov 21 04:48:22 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.93)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Sharon JonesTrumped To Death.

Her final days.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 23:10:42 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: jh

Can't thank you enough Jan. Thanks.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 22:48:01 CET 2016 from (114.75.208.38)

Posted by:

Wallsend

This is on Robbie's Facebook page:

Robbie and the team at Universal have a few things they're looking at for the future. Albert Hall, Woodstock, Tour 74, Watkins Glen (official) & Festival Express. As always we will keep you posted.

This is just getting better and better.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 22:36:24 CET 2016 from (24.114.48.31)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT is right about David Vest's talent, and John D should be pleased with his $10 investment in the excellent "Roadhouse Revelation". Trontonians will likely be able to catch him in January at the Blue Goose, as he'll likely be in town for the Maple Blues Awards so will likely play with the rhythm section he's used for the last three CDs, who have a matinee at the Goose every Sunday.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 20:26:40 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Studio

Kevin, it was situated on the 30th floor of the Hudson Bay Company at 2 Bloor St. East. During the day you could sit at the console and look straight down Yonge street facing south to Lake Ontario. You could also see the Toronto Islands. I remember I had to extend my show that night as Robbie was running a little late. It was a memorable evening.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 20:08:16 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Photos

I tried expanding photo 2 to see what was playing on the turntable ! No luck......something long I would think.....cozy looking environment.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 19:46:25 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Band

WOW! Those are great John.....you actually still had some hair in some places.:-)


Entered at Sun Nov 20 19:22:34 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

John D, that is so great!


Entered at Sun Nov 20 19:18:31 CET 2016 from (84.212.118.250)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Thanks, John.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 19:04:55 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Keb Mo.......A Better Man

I had to do this once more to see if it will work. One of the greatest artists to listen to in my catalogue is this man.

Here is a lift for a rainy, dreary Sunday morning. On his back porch, (one of the "Playing For Change) videos.

Every smiling face here is a lift from so many races of people, how can you not love them. Watch the children dance they are beautiful.

Peace on earth and good will toward everyone.......all the time.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 18:24:36 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Havin A Party

Watch this blonde make love to her saxophone ..........IMMORAL! One of the best rock & roll songs ever.

Having just been up Bella Bella way a few days ago, reminded me when I used to play in the Shearwater Bar there a lot. This was the favourite song of the native folks there. I would end up with half the village on the stage with me singing this song.

damn thing won't come up for some reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYXq8HGiuQ


Entered at Sun Nov 20 17:30:59 CET 2016 from (83.249.132.119)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Bye bye

I have read over and over again my gb friend's Jeff A words, I agree:

"The intersection of music & politics in our lifetime has been enormous. In fact, had Bob Dylan not become a household name mainly because of his political songs, he may never have had the kind of career where he needed to hire an electric band to perform & tour the way he did. Had The Band never developed, we wouldn't be right here. The intersection of music & politics cannot be overlooked. There are a gazillion reasons & ways to approach that subject. One could have a worthy career discussing the subject. (...) If political conversation is off the table & ends, you'll hear no more about it from me. But in our lifetime, & regarding musical interests often discussed here, the relationship between politics & music is elementary & essential."

I can't accept the terms of use from jh according the connection between politics and music and then it is time to leave.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 16:53:45 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: David Vest has a sold 'cv'

David Vest has had a career that predated these 5 cds. He played behind in bands behind some of the greats and opened for others. Like so many musicians, he was 'in the reeds' waiting to emerge, and emerge he has. Read about him on line. He's a contender now at 73 and from what I see and hear, he's just getting revved up.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 15:45:45 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: David Vest has 5 cds out

John D: Good. Glad to hear it. He's been on the music scene a long time. Knows his 'stuff' and has met many. Try to listen the other cds and especially give the current cd a go if you can. This man from Alabama who moved to Victoria a number of years ago has become a mainstay on the Canadian music front. I'm sure the CIUT listeners would enjoy him.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 15:28:44 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: David Vest

OK JT. You just made me spend $9.99 on iTunes for "Roadhouse Revelation" on iTunes.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 15:23:20 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Subject: David Vest covers Bob Dylan review Victoria BC

An excellent show with David fronting a 4 piece band in excellent form (including stand-up bass, guitar and drums). David's take on Dylan is like Dylan's take on Dylan in concert, reforming his songs to David's own piano-boogie style.

David is nominated for Canadian Maple Blues awards for his newest cd, Devestatin' Rhythm. (record of the year) and for piano player of the year. His next show in Victoria, Dec. 17 at Herman's Jazz club, covering the music of Leonard Cohen ('Im going to have to learn a whole bunch of new lyrics").


Entered at Sun Nov 20 15:01:27 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Just got word from jh. I ended up in his spam folder. He's going to put the two pictures up. Thanks Jan.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 14:59:18 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Midnight Special

Robert Palmer was absolutely at his best on that show. You can watch it on YouTube; but I wish I had the official video of it.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 04:55:35 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

I always listened to Wolfman Jack's syndicated radio show (on AFRTS Italy). I enjoyed the silliness.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 03:53:19 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Midnight Special

Hey Bill! The Midnight Special, (which I watched for years) had a thing going on just a few years ago. They put out DVD'S of those 70's shows. Sort of like Columbia Records Club.

You get 1 a month, I don't recall the price, but it was minimal. I had a stack of them. In one of our moves a couple of years ago when Susan and I were trying to scale down, I sold a stack of them in a flea market, a buck a piece. There was some super music on them from real stars who got a push up from Midnight Special. They were very well done and very good sound for middle priced DVD'S.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 03:25:55 CET 2016 from (24.114.55.148)

Posted by:

Bill M

Fred: I wouldn't mind seeing "Midnight Special" again after all these years. I watched it most weeks in the '70s, despite Wolfman Jack. "In Concert" (with NO Wolfman) was a similar show that ran around the same time - different networks, I guess - and featured many of the actss acts. I remember being extrememely impressed by the post-Duane Allmans Loggins and Messina (and their most excellent band) and Martin Mull. I'm pretty sure that it was on one of those two shows that I saw Wet Willy (two thumbs down) and REO Speedwagon. Don't recall any others off the top.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 02:18:21 CET 2016 from (114.75.207.163)

Posted by:

Wallsend

When I got Robbie's book, I just could not put it down. I got sore eyes from reading it too much. It filled in, or gave me a better understanding of, bits of the narrative. Good to get the details on the circumstances behind Levon leaving and coming back. I am sure I will re-read it many times in the future.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 02:16:47 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Of course, posting the link would make sense.

The aforementioned link


Entered at Sun Nov 20 02:05:36 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Music, Politics, The Boss, Dylan, The Band, The GB

Jan, with nothing but all the respect due you, I'll write that I came here to post this link about The Boss's guitarists & Mike Pence. And discuss it a little. I saw your post at the top, & considered that this is still postable here, & why. It goes deep.

The intersection of music & politics in our lifetime has been enormous. In fact, had Bob Dylan not become a household name mainly because of his political songs, he may never have had the kind of career where he needed to hire an electric band to perform & tour the way he did. Had The Band never developed, we wouldn't be right here. The intersection of music & politics cannot be overlooked. There are a gazillion reasons & ways to approach that subject. One could have a worthy career discussing the subject.

Springsteen sometimes espouses politics at his shows. By Miami Steve's views, & it's valid, that may not be fair to fans that come who have different views. But, they likely know Springsteen's politics & buy tickets to his shows anyway. Also valid.. Nils's poimt is certainly worth considering as well. Also, Pence was asking for something to happen. He & Donald likely hoped that there was a bigger "confrontation."We all know it.

It's your GB. If political conversation is off the table & ends, you'll hear no more about it from me. But in our lifetime, & regarding musical interests often discussed here, the relationship between politics & music is elementary & essential. Of course, if you desire, you know how to reach me.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 02:02:13 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Testimony

Just picked up a copy of Robbie's book. An interesting few minutes at the bookstore............on prominent display at front of the store. Sitting right beside Sprngteen's book. The cover photo of which I was not a fan of when they first announced it - now I get it. Two young girls (18 or early twenties ) were beside me and one had noticed a copy of a new Don Cherry book in the same display bookshelf section and wondered whether it would be a good gift for their Dad.......the other girl while half listening looked up and exclaimed "wow, look at this one - it's like the guy's looking right at us....striking". She was referring to the cover of Testimony.

In addition to the cover of Testimony that really captures attention on the shelves......the first thing you notice is the quality of the paper.....the same paper that Dylan's Chronicles had. I picked up the Spriingsteen book and noted two things - regular paper and seemingly no pictures. I always like pictures in biographies........I also noticed a Phil Collins bio in the same section.......I didn't bother checking that one out.

I am saving the RR for reading over the holidays and beyond and plan to read it as slowly as possible.......I'll say this - the opening few sentences alone let you know just what a special work this is.....so much to look forward to.

Brown eyed girl: I do remember once "scolding" Al Edge for describing me as "pleasant" - I think it was, but for the life of me I have no memory of ever getting into a tiff with you on Richard.....of all subjects. What was I upset about ? Funny.....


Entered at Sun Nov 20 01:45:14 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: jh

Sorry you didn't like the pictures of Robbie and myself; from '78. Presenting him with gold record for TLW. Sent them twice. Oh well. Great memory for me. I just wanted to share.


Entered at Sun Nov 20 01:15:29 CET 2016 from (84.212.118.250)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Politics

Maybe take it somewhere else, yes?


Entered at Sun Nov 20 00:24:06 CET 2016 from (114.75.207.163)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I finished Robbie's book. I thought the best bits were when he wrote about the Hawks and the 66 tour. Towards the end it wandered into more well known territory which was not so interesting. The thing that always interested me most was how they transitioned from being a bar band to coming up with the really distinctive music on Big Pink. This is covered in great detail so I am really happy to have read the book.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 22:17:42 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: The Electors Can Exorcise The Devil On Dec 19th.

I'm guessing that appealing to the sanity of the Electors and hoping they behave responsibly on Dec 9th is the easiest , most direct way to vanquish Trump. OF course, probably every effective fixer is working triple time right now.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 21:35:08 CET 2016 from (195.154.90.122)

Posted by:

roz

Ah the things you learn from MSNBC


Entered at Sat Nov 19 20:55:03 CET 2016 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

Over a million more Americans voted for Clinton than Trump and that number is rising. Complaining about protesters? Assassination threats against Obama rose 400% after he was nominated in 2008, eventually averaging 30 a day. By far the most threatened president in US history. At least those opposed to Trump's insanity aren't afraid to show their faces.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 16:49:10 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Glen Frey Tribute

Not sure who all may have seen this. Jackson Browne with all the Eagles..........Take it Easy. A great sound and they ley Bernie Leadon take the lead in this. Always loved to hear Jackson sing this song


Entered at Sat Nov 19 16:06:24 CET 2016 from (199.68.196.124)

Posted by:

Roz

Subject: Why I Voted For Trump !

I didn't. I voted against Clinton. You folks on the left don't seem to be able to get it through your heads that most of this country despise Hillary Clinton. You want HER in there. With Clinton we knew what we were going to get and simply could not imagine the next four years being like the last eight years. The left claims tolerance but who do we see setting fires and calling for the assassination of the President elect. Who do we see dragging folks from cars and beating the crap out of them for LOOKING like someone who voted Trump? You all seem COMPLETELY BLIND TO YOUR OWN FAILURES. You expect the rest of us to just take it on the chin when you stomp all over us? Did you see any mobs of haters take to the streets when Obama won eight years ago? Did ya? You claim you're one way and act completely opposite expecting no one to notice? Clinton's history came back to bite her on the ass and I for one hope both those Clinton people end up in jail. I LOVED the look on your coastal faces when that twat went down ! I LOVED IT


Entered at Sat Nov 19 15:19:25 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Jon Stewart & Steve Earle

Young people in America grew up on Jon Stewart. They probably respect him more then any other public figure. That has to come with a tremendous responsibility. He's not going to come out now and start banging the drum. Many young people are angry enough. He said all the right things for this moment and time.

I've seen Steve Earle many times. Great songwriter. Like David Crosby he loves the sound of his own voice. When you go see Dylan you wish he would talk. When you go see Earle you wish he would shut up. Knows everything about everything. Recently divorced his 7th wife. The talented Allison Moorer.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 15:10:34 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

The last few days I've been watching clips from The Midnight Special. I never watched it in its original airing, due to age (I was 10 in 1973) and then moved to Europe in 1976 . By the time I moved back I think the show was cancelled. Boy did I miss out on a lot of music on TV!

Also I've come across loads of stuff from The Old Grey Whistle Test. Fabulous!

WHy weren't there shows on Italian TV like this from that time period?!? There were variety shows, but music programs on TV sucked. Miming to the music ruled. Ugh. Yes, there was the annual Festival of Sanremo, but it wasn't rock'n'roll.

Radio was a different story what with the emergence of private (albeit illegal) radio stations DJed by a lot of knowledgeable people in their 20s and the ability to tune into American Forces Radio.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 14:51:53 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Making America Great.....Britain again!

It's all because of the British.

The loons over there voted for Brexit, the loons in the States follow suit by voting in Trump. `

The same behaviour occured when Maggie "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher became PM, shortly thereafter Ronald Reagan was elected president. Too many, waaay too many, anglophiles livin' in the USA. ; )


Entered at Sat Nov 19 14:26:39 CET 2016 from (174.89.39.9)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sorry....last post was for Roz. I used to find your posts quite vulgar but then you had a way with words and you were quite entertaining here. If you're so inclined Roz and Luke......Why did you vote for Trump?

Long Live RAP mixed with any genre of music!


Entered at Sat Nov 19 14:17:08 CET 2016 from (174.89.39.9)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"The same country that elected Donald Trump elected Barack Obama”

The former Daily Show host offered a measured take on Trump’s win in a new Charlie Rose interview.

Is this the interview you were referring to? I'm surprised that you don't go after me since I would have voted for Sanders as he's the most left of the three.....but you never did back in the day either......Whereas the two you've targeted went after me......They like women who don't challenge or scare them.....lol.....I just have strong opinions. I think only the late Steve and I are the most pinko here. As I said here before, I do get why some people were drawn to Trump. Some friends and close family members also dig him. What do they all have in common? Their lives all had even more potential than mine......They were left behind due to technology changing their careers and then no career.....One was a producer......most work places have in house people who do the work he was trained for.....bye bye big house and all......They tell me that they are tired of the new immigrants from Syria, etc. coming in and getting temporary housing and benefits in Canada whereas if they hadn't married someone with a career and benefits......We are so far apart politically that one of them told me that I'm not very intelligent.....Well.....I'm not very good at debating for sure......One day he pushed me to the brink so I called him a redneck........His partner agreed but our friendship has been strained since......The only thing that works is that we can't discuss politics period.....The other person's family comes from northern/eastern Europe.....and this person doesn't mind that Trump may be too close to Russia?Btw, I made drunken cherry wine brownies last night while I was watching the Raptors and CNN......I don't get Fox. I miss all the food talk some of used to have.

Hey Laura. Nooooo.....It was Houston where I had the tasty burger. I don't eat red meat much so when I do.......I really enjoy it. Gulf Shores, Alabama........terrible cuisine.......everything is deep fried!!!!!!!! I do miss all the gals in the GB whether we got along or not......Just like the Trumpets.....We're not a homogenous group either. The Dankettes were the coolest because they'd show their adoration for Rick and let the Robbiesonians do their thing too. The Levonistas......We butted heads because we were.......I don't know....maybe too similar in ways? I do regret all the misused energy at the time. Long Live The Band!

Tonight's it's Steve Earle........I also made yesterday garlic chicken for friend coming over for dinner ....still need to make potatoes and carrots with lemon and olive oil and oregano with a "peasant" salad....meaning no lettuce of any kind.....shortly it's Native competency training workshop. LONG LIVE MUSIC!!!!!!!!


Entered at Sat Nov 19 11:50:45 CET 2016 from (193.90.12.87)

Posted by:

Roz

Hye Jerry. Hope everything is good for you.. Oh man, one of the tolerant blinded chickens has something to say, and that chicken is a rocking chair and that rocking chair sounds like an asshole when it creaks. Say you should definitely get together with the whining ass, Jeff A who is also an mechanic or something except for he says he's a musician but some of us know no one will hire him because.. well, he's no really good enough to compete


Entered at Sat Nov 19 07:41:40 CET 2016 from (107.77.83.18)

Posted by:

Jerry

Hi Roz baby, rarely look in but did today..You certainly know how to enter a room...


Entered at Sat Nov 19 07:41:22 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sharon Jones …

Yet another. What a year. Very sad.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 04:44:30 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Sharon Jones very sad

Very sad. We danced with her on stage in Victoria when she played the local hall a couple of years ago. She was a lovely lady and spent some time with us after the show.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 04:20:28 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Sharon Jones has died.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 03:32:12 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Oh and...........

For years we've waited for you to say something sensible Roz. Your only thing that gets you off is shitting on everyone. Was that comment helpful in addressing anything? Not really. If every one here is so distasteful to you then why do you bother to vent your hauty opinion? Do you think any one really cares.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 03:16:33 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: In yer Face! Tell the Truth

There have been different points of view expressed here, (and with very obvious care to respect others.)

Thank you Bob! Consider this one point! This president elect? says! we are going to cancel the Paris Accord. We are going to take all USA money out of these endeavours for climate change.

Here in is the problem....ANY MAN! has the right to make his opinions and as a leader do what he thinks is best for his people. However in making these statement, not once (that I have seen) does he give tangible reasons for these actions.

I have read a lot of books and I am sure that I have amassed a reasonable amount of knowledge about what I speak of. It is too long to set it all out here. All information is easily available on the internet, (of course it's easy to say you don't believe it.)

Consider the amount of oxygen that one jet liner burns crossing the Atlantic Ocean. Then start to multiply that. Denial is going to cost dearly, make no mistake.


Entered at Sat Nov 19 01:31:21 CET 2016 from (163.172.67.180)

Posted by:

Rosalind

Subject: Luke

This guestbook is just like a chicken coop full of chickens. If they eye a chicken that's different, one that's not like them, they will peck on that chicken until it's dead. The left are BLIND. Once in a while you will come across one who does think. Like Jon Stewart yesterday but This Guestbook is full of blind lefties. They have people who love music like Angelina (brown eyed girl) and some others who have finally had it with the place but all the whiners and jerks remain


Entered at Sat Nov 19 01:10:49 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Actually...

Wallsend was right about the Japanese PM. Most Japanese citizens share that view...that the PM and his faction are war hawks.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 23:43:56 CET 2016 from (206.211.104.1)

Posted by:

Laura

Location: Houston, TX

Hey Brown Eyed Girl. I'm glad you were able to make it to the good ole south. I bet that burger was good. Haven't been through Alabama in a long time but the food is just as good as what you would get in New Orleans, LA. or even here in Houston. To Bonk - I'm thinking "Grumpy Peeps" is a darn good name for a band! I'm waiting on Jaime Robbie Robertson's "Testimony" to arrive at my doorstep for the last few days. Maybe I will have a treat waiting for me when I get home from work. It's nice to know it's getting such rave reviews and it's not the same ole stories we have already heard. Diamond Lil - If you still sneak a peek in here - I miss ya! Same to Donna from PA! Last time I saw you guys was in 2005 at Levon's Ramble. Geez I miss those days. Happy Thanksgiving to all next week....even you Grumpy Trump spewing Peeps. LOL!! Have your Waltz on next Thursday. I know I will. :)


Entered at Fri Nov 18 23:10:57 CET 2016 from (114.75.207.163)

Posted by:

Wallsend

My comments were not intended as being anti-Japanese. What I mean is that while Trump's swaggering bullshit may impress some Americans, it is likely to be met with a different response in other parts of the world.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 22:42:59 CET 2016 from (24.114.59.170)

Posted by:

Bill M

Joe J: Sad to admit that I didn't know that Rawlins Cross evolved from Figgy Duff, who I saw twice in the late '90s , once outdoors in downtown Banff th other indoors in downtown Toronto. Loved them but just about nobody who wasn't punk did indie LPs back then. I thought it was a crime that they weren't signed.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 22:37:35 CET 2016 from (129.237.92.143)

Posted by:

ray mizumura

Location: the heartland (Kansas)
Web: My link

Subject: Politics. There, I'm transparent, giving you chance to scroll past

Judging from what I've seen/heard of what's happening in Washington/NYC, and from what I've experienced in Kansas, I'm confident in saying that the United States as a whole will soon have political leadership that is very similar to what has been in effect since 2010 in this state.

Without going into detail--there is plenty of information and analysis out there, I ask those of you who are interested to sample it--I also am confident in saying that I doubt if people are going to like the US being run as a nation the way Kansas is run as a state.

However, in the election November 8, the voters here managed to open the door to some improvements at the state level, while also giving Mr. Trump their mandate. They would have preferred Ted Cruz, though, who won the Republican primary by a landslide over Donald Trump. In other words, Kansas will be a little less like Kansas, starting next year. And the US as a whole will be a lot more like Kansas, starting next year.

I do want to reach out to Luke, specifically. I am on the left, and I regret that you feel disrespect here. I hope my post isn't part of that. Honestly, though, I cannot take the charges of voter fraud by undocumented immigrants seriously. Even if it were true that 3 million undocumented people managed to cast votes, I would also want to know how others found out what those votes were, and how they found that out. I would like to know how anyone is certain that these people voted for Clinton/Kaine, thus invalidating any attention to the popular vote majority that Clinton/Kaine earned.

I did go to the website you mentioned, Luke, and I tried to keep my mind open. But I don't take that source seriously. Some reasons: those who maintain the site throw names like Joseph Stalin around generously and recklessly. They say that this country has been in a condition of communist-slavery since 1988. They say that the only legitimate recent candidates have been Trump, Pat Buchanan, and Ron Paul.

This country has plenty of problems, many of them severe and lethal. We are not, however, in a Stalinist state and we never have been.

Regarding the vote this year, I am not signing petitions to abolish the electoral college or taking any other kind of action to remove Trump and install Clinton.

What this situation proves, in my opinion, is that the system is far from broken--in the case of the electoral college, the system works. Perhaps that is the problem? In any case, it is interesting that Trump and many of his supporters do not think the election was rigged, since they won. But when they assumed/predicted Clinton would win, they were certain of it being rigged.

No, Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine won't serve at the highest level. But the fact that they did earn at least one million more votes than Trump/Pence is significant. It does matter. Those people who voted for Clinton/Kaine do matter and there should be some basic respect for them, just as some are asking for basic respect for the electoral college results and the new administration.

Regarding Japan and Shinzo Abe--my spouse and my in-laws are Japanese. I'm part of that family and I love them and I love Japan. Let's not assume the worst about the political leaders of that country.

Again, no one should be disrespecting anyone here. I hope my comments serve some good purpose.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 22:35:34 CET 2016 from (174.89.39.9)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Hei Classy/Ragtime....Just received Robbie's book thanks to gift cards from students.......more remain for maybe.....Hiawatha and Born To Run. One more sleep for you.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 22:22:07 CET 2016 from (114.75.207.163)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I think Abe is looking for an opportunity to resume the Pacific War (his grandfather was one of the people that signed the declaration of war at the time of Pearl Harbour and was Minister for Munitions) so if Trump wants a fight he is looking in the right place.

Robbie's book is getting better and better.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 20:45:40 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A

Subject: I Don't See How This Is Not Enough To Create Charges and Begin The Process of Removal

Fortune Magazine _ 11.17.16

“This is not the way we behave in the world’s leading constitutional democracy.”

The very first meeting that the President-elect held with a world leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, is prompting further criticism—even alarm. According to photographs taken at Trump Tower in New York City and published this week, the session was attended by Ivanka Trump, who has no government security clearance and is an executive at the Trump Organization.

Meanwhile the New York Times reports that Jared Kushner, Trump’s trusted son-in-law, consulted a lawyer to find out how he could join Trump’s forthcoming administration without running afoul of federal laws prohibiting nepotism. Kushner was also present at the Abe meeting, according to another photo published by Reuters and the Japanese government. He too lacks government security clearance. (A Trump spokesperson did not immediately respond to a Fortune request for comment.)

In an interview with Fortune, Eisen says Ivanka Trump and Kushner’s apparent presence at Trump’s first face-to-face meeting with the leader of one of our key allies was “shocking” and unprecedented. “If you’ve got one member of the power couple—Jared Kushner, whispering in the President[-elect]’s ear—and if you’ve got the other, the wife and daughter, who is running businesses, it merges the Trump Organization and the United States into one huge conglomerate managed by the Trumps for their own interests,” he says.



Entered at Fri Nov 18 20:41:11 CET 2016 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

And I'm a Pogues guy.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 20:39:03 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: The Local Environment Has Already Been Trumped.

I've been in Manhattan several times in the last week.Including yesterday. Midtown is nuts, and I'm used to it being nuts, but this is a new level....The article is mild. IT does not reflect on the fact that this will be forever. IF he serves as President, his security risk only inflate, he will know more daily- if he can process and retain anything. The inconvenience and dollar cost is forever---- it will not dissolve till the man dies. OF course, the effects he has on the country & the world will probably be far worse.

"A single presidential visit costs the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs the city’s airports, $100,000 to pull off."


Entered at Fri Nov 18 20:10:44 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

joe j.....Or was it Long Way Home by Rawlins Cross? Anyway, don't get mad but I always liked their sound even more than Great Big Sea.....probably because more melodic to my ears?..... I saw them at our Harbourfront for free with the McGarrigle Sisters. Having been to Newfoundland with friends where we visited a different part of the island daily.......Lack of jobs gave way to many bed and breakfast. Now we have BnB.....same thing but no breakfast......I thought .80 for gas was a lot then! lol My travelling friends are from Newfoundland, Miramichi and Nova Scotia....maybe because we all overshare...lol......Mr. Maximus who some of you met would always check out the folk festival in Miramichi......but......don't get mad again......When I saw The Chieftains in NYC for St. P:addy's Day with someone from Guyana....only non-white in Carnegie Hall.......I........Ah....The truth is I'm more of a Pogues girl......who I saw in NYC for another St. Paddy's Day celebration.....same venue as where The Band played......The Palladium......bumbles was there that night and probably Crabby too!


Entered at Fri Nov 18 19:52:06 CET 2016 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: The Cross

BEG: Named after an infamous downtown St. John's intersection, Rawlin's Cross were the Panting bros. spinoff from Figgy Duff. Their thing was accordion AND bagpipes. Great live show though I don't know they ever caught on nationally. They were nominated for a couple of Junos I recall. 'Colleen (Where You Be'en)' their 'hit'. Mostly inactive the last decade, they still get together for one-offs.

Link is to 'Rock & Reel"\'


Entered at Fri Nov 18 19:34:45 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: I'm left, you're right … she's gone

Luke, if you go to Europe, you’ll find the horror of Trump extends to left, centre and right. It’s only the fringe Far Right in France, or the oaf Farage who see anything positive in the man. As I keep trying to explain, the alleged “right” in the UK, i.e. the Conservative party, believe in the National Health Service, graduated income tax, state pensions for all, and extremely strict gun control. Our “right” in politics would approximate to the more left-wing Democrats. Our “centre” and “left” is something you don’t have at all.

Here we’re quoting what Boris Johnson (as an example of OUR right wing) said about Trump last year.

QUOTE (THE INDEPENDENT 9 November): Johnson also lashed out when the then-Republican presidential candidate claimed that there were “no-go areas” in London where police feared for their lives, because of a threat posed by Muslims.

On the Muslim ban, Mr Johnson said: “I think Donald Trump is clearly out of his mind if he thinks that’s a sensible way to proceed, to ban people going to the United States in that way, or to any country.

“What he’s doing is playing the game of the terrorists and those who seek to divide us. That’s exactly the kind of reaction they hope to produce.”

And on the claim of “no go areas”, he added: “I think he’s betraying a quite stupefying ignorance that makes him frankly unfit to hold the office of President of the United States.

“I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city – except I wouldn’t want to expose any Londoners to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”

Mr Johnson also said: “The only reason I wouldn't visit some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.” END QUOTE



Entered at Fri Nov 18 19:30:45 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Kevin J....I posted last Thursday via Esquire mag re Robbie following in the footsteps of Bob Dylan and his volumes. Btw although you're one of my favourite posters here.....You have scolded me on posts regarding Richard......but I respected that I didn't get any gold stars from you. ;-D Also, Paul Godfrey "met" me via my posts on Richard by emailing and gently suggesting that I only post positive things......I was just trying to post as an observer and as someone who was close to someone's addiction many years ago........As Robbie wrote in Broken Arrow....It can't be all for nothing......although when Pamela Wallin interviewed him many years ago.....maybe when Much Music became Much More Music....when asked about drugs coming through.....It was the first time I heard Robbie talk about Heroin being present......Did Robbie ever try it himself? When asked about his children learning from Robbie's experiences.....He said everyone has to find their own way......Ain't that the real truth?!

"You've been a songwriter forever. And you've worked in films. But have you written long form like this before? It tells a very detailed, finely honed narrative. The press materials say it took you five years, but how long did it take you to find your voice? Every writer has a voice, and you certainly have a voice in your music, in your songwriting, but how did you find that voice as a writer and how long did it take you to actually write the book?

In the beginning, when I started, when the people from Crown, Random House, said, "We'd like you to write this book," I dabbled for quite a while. But I was working on it in the back of my mind while I had lots of other projects that I was dealing with. So I was waiting for it to tell me, "I would like to move to the front of the line here." It was over a period of five years, but it was the last two years that I really, really hunkered down and dedicated myself to writing it.

Springsteen told me for his book there would be a year or something that would go by and he wouldn't think about it, and then he'd come back to it. I wasn't able to do that. It was always stirring. It was cooking. And I was just waiting for it to reach the right temperature. And finally I knew that I could put the icing on it. So now I'm gonna write the next volume. I'm gonna start just after the first of the year, writing the next volume, which is really crazy. You know, because people say, "Oh Jeez! You wrote this book but you didn't talk about you solo career and your film work." I haven't gotten there yet! I wrote it up to The Last Waltz and that's what I wanted to do."

Why It Took Robbie Robertson Five Years to Write His Memoir In Testimony, the former member of The Band strives for authenticity to tell his story.
BY JEFF SLATE
NOV 15, 2016


Entered at Fri Nov 18 19:28:52 CET 2016 from (83.68.10.60)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Well Luke, you see, the problem is, that your Potus elect has not shown yet that the word respectful means anything to him at all. But of course you are right, we lefties should not follow his example...

BTW I remember The Band played for Jimmy Carter once...

which is a bridge to the sad fact that my copy of Testimony did not arrive today... sigh... the night is falling all over the low countries now... so I´ll have to wait at least one more day...


Entered at Fri Nov 18 19:12:21 CET 2016 from (24.114.59.170)

Posted by:

Bill M

Well Luke, what is your opinion? And did you find the posts from LauRoz respectful?


Entered at Fri Nov 18 18:56:40 CET 2016 from (173.59.47.251)

Posted by:

Luke

Location: PA

I just love the tolerance from "the left" here. So respectful of everyone's opinion, as long as it is the same as yours.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 18:36:00 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

From the Montreal Gazette.....on Testimony and good news that there will be Volume 2:

"For now, this was the story Robertson wanted to tell. It had a humble beginning, a wild-hearted middle, and an elegant end.

“It was enough,” he says with a laugh. “It goes up to this beautiful conclusion of the Band. When I wrote this, it came out to be 800 pages. So I cut 300 pages out of it. That’s enough and that’s Vol. 1.”

Robertson confirms there will eventually be a Vol. 2. But he’s right, Testimony contains enough anecdotes for 20 lifetimes, taking readers from the wild rockabilly barroom circuit where Robertson cut his teeth as a teenage guitarist for Ronnie Hawkins to the heady, drug and alcohol-fuelled days of the Band’s top-of-the-world success."

This book is receiving outstanding reviews across the board......Like Chronicles, I just like knowing I am actually reading Robbie's own words. I am saving mine for Christmas travels.....


Entered at Fri Nov 18 18:10:25 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Thank You Norm!

Norm, great post, thank you. Donald Trump is the worst thing to happen to America. Check out this article from The Boston Globe explaining how bad a successful Trump Presidency will be for many people.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 17:51:15 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I was far too nice to correct you NWC. The ice sheets reached as far south as Salisbury Plain, some 35 to 40 miles north of the South Coast. This is why we have chines which were water channels flowing into the proto River Solent, which flowed out of what is now Poole Harbour, across the bay and around the Isle of Wight to emerge east of Portsmouth. The sea broke through and submerged the prehistoric Solent Valley. The remains of the ends of valley "wall" can be seen at The Needles in the Isle of Wight and Old Harry Rocks in Dorset, rock formations I can see daily.

That's the kind of thing that happens when glaciers melt.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 17:13:22 CET 2016 from (83.249.132.119)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Subject: A pettiness, for the records.

I - normally smart gber - posted that southern England was covered by ice for 15000 years ago. Mrs NWC who studied meteorology pointed out that it is bullshit (not her word). Like Bob Dylan said: "You don't need a weatherman to tell you when the wind blows. You'll need a weathergirl! (Not necessarily his words, either.)


Entered at Fri Nov 18 16:53:52 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: David Vest and Cowboy Junkies additions

In my list of bands seen over the years, I forgot the most recent ones: David Vest on a few occasions (at Herman's Jazz Club - exceptional talent) and the most recent Cowboy Junkies concert in Sydney by the Sea, BC (near Victoria) (wow!!!).


Entered at Fri Nov 18 16:51:09 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: David Vest covers Dylan at Herman's Jazz Club 19 11 16

Nov. 19,2016 - Herman's Jazz Club:, Victoria BC - evening with David Vest who will cover Bob Dylan as only he can: piano and voice with a crack backup band (usually). Sold out but maybe? We've heard him do Dylan within his repertoire on occasion and are very much looking forward to this excellent musician doing this evening.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 16:22:13 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and Bill M's favourite cover of Out Of The Blue and mine too.....:-D

Canadian Mary Margaret O'Hara.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 16:12:32 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JED....Yiiiiikes! I posted that The Band Tribute in Toronto was with BARK and many great Toronto musicians....one is the father of a student at a school where I taught.....Broken Social Scene......and yet......who did I forget to mention?????? GARTH HUDSON AND MAUD HUDSON!!!!!! It was the very first time I heard Maud sing "Don't Do It'......and absolutely loved the yearning in her voice........Apologies for the omission...... :-(((((

Two exceptions for Out Of The Blue...Joe Cocker and Mary Margaret O'Hara


Entered at Fri Nov 18 16:02:20 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: BEG-Other bands performing The Band

Hi BEG-I used to like some cover/tribute groups.Over time I'm souring on these groups.We saw The Weight at The Barn recently-a big disappointment.Without a BAND member,these things get..kind of boring.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 15:52:14 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you Rod. Here's the interview Dunc....with Garth on Radio New Zealand.

I really don't like anyone.....mostly......performing Band songs. There are exceptions as I've been to one tribute in NYC with Garth, Buddy Cage......excellent show at the Bottom Line. The other one was in Toronto with BARK......and many great Toronto musicians......excellent again!


Entered at Fri Nov 18 15:41:27 CET 2016 from (31.53.23.226)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Rod

Thanks Rod. Got the John Simon clip, bit can't get Garth.

When I saw a group of good Irish musicians play a Last Waltz tribute in Glasgow, I thought it was brilliant. The audience was full and alcohol played its part. (a Saturday concert)

It wasn't a museum piece - roars of approval for the songs and performers. Just enjoy it. Good luck.

Wish I was going with you.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 15:34:24 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: To Post or Not To Post?????

Whether Laura posts or not is only her decision and although we have no desire to drive anyone away I don't think not posting was noticed.

Being from the "red" state of Texas it's a good chance she would be a supporter of this pres. elect particularly from the "scolding" dished out.

The web master here has cut a lot of people slack on different issues. This is one of the most important of our life time. This is most certainly a global issue. Regarding climate change any one who thinks this is a "made up" situation has not watched or (thinks the pictures of melting ice and devastation are manipulated by computer or something) I suppose.

Any one who spends most their life in the ashphalt jungles and not out here in nature as I do really would not have any idea of what is going on.

One very good example, (if you spent as long as I have out here) we have "Stellar sea lions" and there are California sea lions. The Californias used to migrate back and forth here. In resent years the Californias never leave now. You can come around a point of land and the rocks are covered with them. Some times hundreds. In Port Hardy perhaps 20 years ago you would never see one. I recall some where in the late eighties one sea lion showed up there. Now there are perhaps 30. They pull themselves up and lay on floats destroying them. They bellow all night driving the local waterfront people crazy. They stink really badly. Hardy Bay used to be plentiful with Dungeness crabs now there are hardly non.

These non believers are gawd damn idiots.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 14:50:03 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Full Donald Trump Interview On 60 Minutes

Thanks to those who shared about Robbie's book talk. Anyone see Robbie in Philly?


Entered at Fri Nov 18 13:25:28 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Testimony

I'm on page 225.Not a complete rehash by any means but told in Robbie's distinctive voice-some beautiful writing and storytelling here.As a shrink,reading this clarifies a lot.If you take Levon's book and Robbie's book together you'll have differing prespectives,but,like a jigsaw puzzle the pieces begin to come together.In a sense,there is an main story about Robbie,his life,and his experiences.Absolutely fascinating.Throughout the book there is an ongoing description of Levon's personality,and lots of repetition of what Robbie often describes as Levon's temper and/or hairtrigger responses to things when he felt offended,hurt or wronged.Robbie portrays himself as the level headed one.Their musical attraction was profound,and deep down,perhaps their only common thread.Their personalities and backgrounds were very different and in close quarters,over time,it would be inevitable those differences would emerge.The drugs certainly exacerbated an already extremely stressful situation.Well,I've got more to read but so far,this is fun-almost feels like you're reading about your own family given the intense connection to The Band.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 13:22:10 CET 2016 from (108.7.46.186)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: Book Talk

For the price of the book, you got a book, pre-signed and and just over an hour of stories. interviewer had his own set of question and it focused, maybe a bit too much on pre Hawk days. He did take pre written audience questions and he went more off the script with those. Someone asked him about Leon Russell and he told a story of The Hawks playing a bar where Leon was regular somewhere in the midwest. at the end of the night the Hawks didn't get paid after a gig. Ronnie tried to square with the guy but got nowhere. That night the place burned down, but Leon's instruments were "removed" beforehand.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 12:12:28 CET 2016 from (83.249.132.119)

Posted by:

NorthestCoaster

Subject: "Where had the glaciers gone?....

... posted my - normally smart - gb friend. On behalf of gb community I would like to thank Mother Earth, solar activity and rotating magnetic field inside our planet for melting down this 1000 meter thick glacier over Poole for 15000 years ago. Otherwise JPeter's fingers would be too frozen to post here. - There were no Trump, no blenching cows or sheep, there were only white middleaged men driving around in their cars: The Flintstones.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 11:06:17 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Waiting for "Testimony" to arrive. It is on order from Amazon for "first day delivery."


Entered at Fri Nov 18 10:36:30 CET 2016 from (114.75.73.27)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Peter, have you read Robbie's book yet? I was concerned that it was just going to be a rehash of all the stories we have heard before but it is so good. It is really well written. The writing style is not what you would expect from a rock musician, even one with Robbie's gifts.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 09:53:00 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Why peeps won’t “get over” it with Trump.

Just watching last night’s news on the climate change meeting, where Kerry spoke well. Trump was quoted as saying Climate Change was a “Chinese plot” to hinder America, and he would withdraw from the lot.

I went on the Alaska cruise in 1994 and took lots of photos. I can’t recall when Bob W. here went, but he shared his photos from exactly the same point. Where had the glaciers gone? That must have been 10 years or more ago. Then I saw pictures from a friend who went last year. Phew! As the guy from Fiji said yesterday, Trump can go there and see what rising sea levels have done.

Then we had the news of the latest Russian atrocities, and the reminder that Trump approves of Putin and is dubious on NATO and US forces in Asia. People in the Baltic States are terrified. This is where The Manchurian Candidate theory that he is a Putin stooge comes in.

As Roger said a week ago, the WHOLE WORLD is rightly concerned. This guy will have his finger n the nuclear button.

It is scary. Britain has another arsehole as “Foreign Secretary” in Boris Johnson, a man who spent his journalistic career insulting foreigners. His latest is to suggest that all Italy has is Prosecco exports. It is the 8th largest economy in the world. My Italian fridge is shuddering with irritation, as is my neighbour’s Fiat. It hasn’t been so annoyed since a driver in a Maserati who was wearing an Armani suit insulted its little Pirelli tyres. The only thing you can say about Johnson is at least next to Trump he looks almost normal.

Then we see Trump wants his family more involved, and we see photos of groups of life-sized Barbie dolls.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 08:13:13 CET 2016 from (219.89.11.109)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

and also a clip with John Simon rehearsing the local band. Though I do have some reservations about them.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 08:05:14 CET 2016 from (219.89.11.109)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

and interview with Garth on Radio NZ today


Entered at Fri Nov 18 06:54:47 CET 2016 from (103.47.66.238)

Posted by:

canadian rooter

Web: My link

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Entered at Fri Nov 18 06:46:06 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: "You know what happens when you have too much fun" Birth Control Ad.

I bet no one ever thought of applying Rick's old faithful statement into a birth control advertisement before. After all , Rick was all about the neighborhood, & the environment.

Fucking is fun. " And you know what happens when you have too much fun". I could just picture this commercial...



Entered at Fri Nov 18 06:32:05 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ,I was not being saracastic. I'm 58. By the time i was a teen, I'm talking 12, 13 years old, I was fully conscious of the fact that the planet was going to hell in a hand basket. It was already all over the news every fucking day. The environment being in danger, species being endangered, pollution, population explosion, what the future looked like - by that time i was of the mind that there really was no great reason to have kids. Why bring innocent children into this cause the odds of em having a great life & not being poisoned to death were slim....By the time i was 16 i was thinking the best thing anyone that could handle it could do was be a back to lander - & be as self sufficient as possible, & have as little impact on the environment as possible. And I thought it would take a gazillion people thinking the same way to save the country, but i also realized that a big part of the world was developing & couldn't give a rat's ass about destroying the environment. Well now 40 odd years later here we are.

And people are pumping out kids like they get a fucking bonus for having em. Poor people, rich people, stoopid people, intelligent people. There's too many people, yet people keep pumping em out.

Fucking is fun. But we can fuck without making babies.Sure, it's not as much fun, but "You know what happens when you have too much fun" ...Tie it off (vasectomy), wear a rubber , take a pill, shake the woman upside down afterwards ( just kidding) , why do people insist on having so many kids?


Entered at Fri Nov 18 05:47:32 CET 2016 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: "too many people"

Jeff - I think you make a good point; I don't know if you were being sarcastic but it's important and never mentioned. How many people can occupy this place without wrecking it? I think that's a statistic worthy of development and analysis. We've gone from coast to coast here now essentially devouring everything in our path: animal habitat, forests, polluted rivers, mountaintop removal, strip mines, suburban sprawl, land fills, draught, climate change impact, etc. Maybe we've outrun our resources and now we''re just sold out in terms of additional population -


Entered at Fri Nov 18 05:28:36 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Regular peaceful Muslims are not a threat to any one. Muslim Extremists are. To assume all Muslims are terrorists or worthy of being hated is just wrong. How we deal with identifying extremists without reverting to internment camps, like during WW2 i don't know. What i do know is that indiscriminate, unprovoked violence ( like this linked incident, burning people indiscriminately) is insane.And gives cause for Muslims to commit violence. It is a real problem. I rather we not have it, but we do, Letting many more in, i'm not for it, but dealing with it legally is the answer. Truthfully, I'm for restricting immigration to a small amount. There's too many people here now. If other countries want less people than they have, let em control the birth rate.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 05:18:37 CET 2016 from (173.3.51.25)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Accept shit...Donald Der Trumpher is what I call him.

Trump ain't my President. If I could I'd say so to his face, tell him why & what i think of him & his behavior, & probably end up in jail.

I thought of that name, Donald Der Trumphfer this morning or last night. No good rat bastard scumbag fuck, & then some.

It's time to stop accepting things so easily &, IF POSSIBLE, not let this shit keep happening.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 04:29:22 CET 2016 from (24.114.48.132)

Posted by:

Bill M

In the music news department, a nice cover of "Ophelia" is the opening track of David Clyton Thomas's new CD, "Canadians" - all covers of song written by such, including his own "Spinning Wheel". I picked up "testimony" today, and have just started it. So far, so good. There's no index so i'll have to wait to see if Robbie mentions DCT, whose own memoirs have him as an auxilliary Hawk.

Wallsend: H Clinton got more votes than D Trump, ergo he could not have gotten 58% of the popular vote.

Bonk: As far as I can tell, the peeps here have accepted the result, and they are dealing with it by expressing their feelings.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 04:01:15 CET 2016 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

bonk

Subject: Laura

Well said Laura. Just accept it and GIT on with it and enjoy the music. Gotta love the Grumpy Peeps comment. Great name for a band!


Entered at Fri Nov 18 02:46:42 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

joe j...I enjoyed Cohen's cover. First time seeing video and hearing song....Thank you.
Btw, what happened to Newfoundland's Rawlins Cross? The town I grew up in was mostly from Newfoundland (had their own Community Centre) and Portugal.

Robbie Robertson on Roy Buchanan....feelin' groovy here? ;-D


Entered at Fri Nov 18 01:34:55 CET 2016 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: RDF
Web: My link

Subject: Everybody Knows

Link is to a Don Henley/Bryan Adams duet on one of my favourite Leonard tunes. Not very subtle but strangely appealing.

Henley's version was the lead track on a tribute album from some time ago. How long? I have the cassette. Tower of Song. More misses than hits. Still Willie Nelson and Jann Arden shine and, of all people , Billy Joel does a memorable 'Light As The Breeze'. Bono does a wretched 'Hallelujah'.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 01:34:15 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Donald Trump on His Rolling Stone Cover and His Favorite Musicians


Entered at Fri Nov 18 01:28:41 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Laura...Donald Trump's surprising list of favorite movies, TV shows, and music

Hi Laura. Could you pass me some goat cheese please? At the end of a refresher for mindfulness meditation today.....everyone wanted to talk about Leonard Cohen.......and......Trump. Btw, I finally made it to Houston, via of Gulf Shores Alabama....good burger at airport.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 00:57:15 CET 2016 from (114.75.73.27)

Posted by:

Wallsend

OK, I have read the first couple of pages and it is fantastic.


Entered at Fri Nov 18 00:45:39 CET 2016 from (114.75.73.27)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

My copy has just arrived!!! I am going to miss the Obamas. You guys in the States are going from the coolest president in the world to the world's biggest shithead. Good luck with that, you voted for him (or at least the 58% of eligible voters who bothered to vote did).


Entered at Fri Nov 18 00:03:31 CET 2016 from (83.68.10.60)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Not the man who is about to appoint three High Court judges heading for long long careers

Laura? What do you mean? Trump who? As far as I can see it's all about Robbie Robertson & Testimony around here. Today I was informed that my copy is on its way... That's fast...! Can't wait...!


Entered at Thu Nov 17 23:50:58 CET 2016 from (206.211.104.1)

Posted by:

Laura

Location: Houston, Texas

Subject: WANT A LITTLE CHEESE WITH THAT WHINE

Geez...what a bunch of whiners! Now I remember why I don't post in here anymore. Trump is president. DEAL WITH IT! I'm not thrilled with the outcome either. He's got 4 years. It takes forever to really DO anything in office. Obama has been in office for 8 years. What has he REALLY done??? Trump is president. It's not good but it is what it is. Deal with it and maybe we might actually see something good happen from it all. It's doubtful but it sure beats complaining about it constantly. You people need to have a little hope in yer bones. Get back to the music. I'm sure Jan just LOVES reading all this political crap you guys have been spewing. I don't think this is what he had in mind when he created this site. Awwww...it's not like it use to be. PEACE you grumpy peeps!!


Entered at Thu Nov 17 20:59:39 CET 2016 from (114.75.73.27)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Bob Dylan - The 1966 Live Recordings: The Untold Story Behind The Recordings


Entered at Thu Nov 17 19:32:23 CET 2016 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: John Simon / Last Waltz anniversary rehearsal

Nice clip of John Simon and NZ musicians. See link.


Entered at Thu Nov 17 17:03:54 CET 2016 from (24.114.70.211)

Posted by:

Bill M

I heard about Mose Allison on Tuesday, when icalled Sandy Konikoff to commiserate re Leon Russell. (Sandy's biggest gig, post Dylan / Hawks was Mad Dogs and Englishmen). Turns out he played with Mose too.


Entered at Thu Nov 17 16:34:28 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.139)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ros. I think it's time for you to go visit your cousin Billy in Pittsburgh.

For those of you who don't know the reference, many moon ago, in the Wild West, I posted: "Fuck you. And if you have any relatives in Pittsburgh, fuck them too." Ros then entertained us with a tale of how she lost her virginity to her cousin Billy in Pittsburgh. I think behind a liquor store ....


Entered at Thu Nov 17 16:18:45 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hey Rozzz....Where did ya go? Did you give her the hook Jan? I was hoping she'd share some recipes since American Thanksgiving is close by.

Could Van be a grumpy cat because he has underlying depression? I would suspect with loved ones he's different......maybe not......as many shared about Louuuu.....very different person with those he cared about. Being in the public and growing up in the public and aging in the public.....brutal.....You have to have a huge ego and thick skin to tolerate the constant.....constant.....criticism......

I missed Robbie's talk in Philly as I was at a workshop given by a Prof who has done research on aging and cognitive learning. Could someone share if this talk was similar to the one in NYC? I did get to see some of the Toronto Raptors game. The boyzzz played so hard......but.....we don't have any superstars (Vince Carter in the past) like Golden State so we're usually playing catch up. DeRozan has been on fire lately so we shall see..........


Entered at Thu Nov 17 11:46:27 CET 2016 from (114.75.100.174)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Another Robbie interview.


Entered at Thu Nov 17 11:35:50 CET 2016 from (114.75.100.174)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Robbie on Jimmy Fallon.


Entered at Thu Nov 17 11:00:41 CET 2016 from (79.75.161.86)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: Mose Allison

My Brain (Linked)

RIP Mose Allison


Entered at Thu Nov 17 09:45:57 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Mose Allison

Yesterday, before the news of Mose’s death, I was working out the annual music quiz for the lads in my school class when we were 14 or 15. You have to recognize songs from small extracts, and I was playing “Mose Allison Sings” as I knew they would all know it.

Mose Allison Sings, on the Stateside label, was one of the most influential albums on British R&B bands in the early 60s. Stylistically, Georgie Fame was an obvious connection. Friends in R&B bands used to play The Seventh Son, Eyesight To The Blind, Parchman Farm and Young Man’s Blues. It was Mose Allison’s take on Baby Please Don’t Go that so many bands learned. It was such a well-known album among fledgling bands. I fumbled through all of the above myself. OK, they weren’t so much originals but it was Mose’s relaxed take on blues classics that astonished. Witness The Who’s take on Young Man, on Live at Leeds years later. I bought Mose’s 45 of“I Love The Life I Live” the day it came out. For a Band connection, Rick talked about recording One Room Country Shack.

RIP Mose Allison.

Link is to "Young Man" by Mose. 1 minute 27 seconds. Perfect. (and true in these times).


Entered at Thu Nov 17 08:51:19 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

PSB, I expect Van would have approved of the "image maintenance."


Entered at Thu Nov 17 06:09:00 CET 2016 from (96.227.58.249)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love

Subject: Robbie in Philly

Saw Robbie Robertson tonight in a Q&A with Tom Moon, now of NPR, formerly of the Philadelphia Inquirer.

I deliberately did not watch any of the interviews posted today before I went, so I don't know if his answers or Moon's questions were the same. Questions from the audience were written on cards beforehand, which to me was a disappointment, but the only one.

A fairly wide variety of topics was discovered, and I felt Robbie was real and on the level throughout. What you really felt was that wide-eyed 16 year old kid entranced with music and entranced with the South.

The questions from the audience that were asked weren't bad. One was if Willie Johnson and Hubert Sumlin were an influence? A funny one was what is Van Morrison really like to which Robbie replied in his deepest smokiest voice,"You Don't Want To Know." At the same time, having been backstage at a Band/Van Morrison concert in Boston in 1969, (having one there with Van), it would've been fun to sort of challenge him on that.


Entered at Thu Nov 17 05:20:32 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.16)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I am paraphrasing a friend of mine:

According to the latest NBC news tally, Hillary Clinton leads the popular vote by over 1,000,000 & is forecast to end up with a 1.5-2M vote margin. She will 'lose the election' with the widest disparity in popular vs electoral margins in American history, somewhere between twice and four times the next closest example, Al Gore, in 2000, by 543,816.


Entered at Thu Nov 17 02:53:34 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: First They Came

This is why we can't just sit back and wait Trump out for 4 years. History has to teach us something.

First They Came

Pastor Martin Niemoller

First they came for the Communists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

To speak out for me.



Entered at Thu Nov 17 01:53:35 CET 2016 from (174.88.217.37)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Robbie

A belated thanks to Tim, Solomon, Angie et al for those links.


Entered at Thu Nov 17 00:35:30 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The interview in front of an audience is the default Literary Festival format. It works well when the interviewer is someone with as much to say of interest as Steve Van Zandt - fascinating to imagine him and Bruce enthralled by Dixie. At other times the interviewer appears to be there to read questions off a card and you'd rather just have the talk.


Entered at Thu Nov 17 00:13:31 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Why It Took Robbie Robertson Five Years to Write His Memoir In Testimony, the former member of The Band strives for authenticity to tell his story.

BY JEFF SLATE NOV 15, 2016


Entered at Thu Nov 17 00:02:02 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thanks very much Tim. I caught Robbie's talk just as I was about to watch the Raps last night. I think you were also the one who alerted us to Robbie on Fallon but you never said when......Thanks Solomon.

Robbie Robertson | Testimony

Wed, November 16, 2016 7:30 p.m.
Philadelphia Parkway Central Library
Cost: $33 General Admission
Auditorium ticket includes a book.
Couple ticket includes one book and admission for two people.
EVENT COMPLETELY SOLD OUT
THERE WILL NOT BE A BOOK SIGNING FOLLOWING THE EVENT; HOWEVER, ALL BOOKS WILL BE PRE-SIGNED.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 23:17:39 CET 2016 from (114.75.100.174)

Posted by:

Wallsend

When I hear Robbie talk I get the feeling that he is giving a performance. I don't get that feeling when I hear Clapton talk although I am sure he has also told the same stories over and over as well. Maybe Robbie doesn't feel all that comfortable doing it.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 22:59:34 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Speaking tours

I empathise with Robbie. I used to do two week tours. I usually had two or three different talks, but I'd have a main one that i'd give a dozen times. You enjoy working on the pausing and weighting of lines, but yes, I wouldn't watch the recording of Robbie if you're going because i would guess it will be nearly the same. I used to feel sorry for the reps escorting me who had to hear it a dozen times. It's like playing a song in a way … just much longer!


Entered at Wed Nov 16 22:49:44 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

During the 1930s Hollywood heyday, Hemingway's "The Sun Also Rises" was a popular novel, and the writers used to say that at the big Hollywood studios "The son-on-law also rises." From Louis B Mayer to Donald Trump.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 22:42:15 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.16)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norm, you old fuck, i gave you one more opportunity, hell actually two more opportunities to agree with me. You've missed countless of them, cause you got salt water & fresh water between your fucking ears,don't blow this one fucko.

You've got a lot of choices to make in response to this post, i hope i didn't make it too difficult :-)


Entered at Wed Nov 16 22:14:59 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.16)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Don't drink the Trumpwater. Put down that glass, now!

NWC, in response :-) I'm a vegafuckingtarian that eats a lot of fish. And most likely I ain't too fucking smart or normal. Shame on you for approving of Trump, as you wrote "I love him, too ". . Even if you like what you want to believe are his economic or foreign policies, how can you "love" or approve of his behavior, and his methods of lying, ignorance, and inciting racism, bigotry,and misogyny to raise votes. The end does not justify the means, is the means is tainted.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 21:56:08 CET 2016 from (108.49.190.154)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: Robbie in Boston

I didn't watch it until the end as I am seeing him tomorrow night and want some of it to be fresh. Did he answer audience questions? Anything not touched upon or not addressed that I should ask him? I'll ask as long as its appropriate/non confrontational..


Entered at Wed Nov 16 20:22:00 CET 2016 from (79.75.188.133)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie and Jimmy Fallon

He has been a busy boy.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 20:18:51 CET 2016 from (83.249.132.119)

Posted by:

NothWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: To Jeff A: Trump and The Trumpettes

My - normally smart gb friend - posted "How Netanyahu or so many Orthodox Jews love Trump is beyond me." As an European down-to-earth leftist I love him, too. To understand this you'll need a stronger mustard in your Brooklyn Hot Dog!!! (At least I love the Trumpettes.)


Entered at Wed Nov 16 19:46:41 CET 2016 from (114.75.100.174)

Posted by:

Wallsend

My only complaint about Robbie's narrative, and perhaps it is inevitable, is that he imposes a significance on events that could only be gained through hindsight. We know now that the 66 tour was the most important tour in rock history, that the Basement Tapes have classic status and that TLW is the greatest rock movie ever made, but those things were not known at the time. I assume this is the approach he will use in the book since that is what he did in his talk. I think Dylan had no idea of the significance of what he was doing at the time. He seems to have simply been a young guy overflowing with talent who could not help expressing his art. I listened to the Liverpool concert yesterday. It is stunning even today so to have to produced this in 1966 is simply amazing.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 18:40:56 CET 2016 from (83.249.132.119)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Bob Dylan...

... does not come to Stockholm to collect the Prize (according to Nobel Prize Committee).


Entered at Wed Nov 16 17:38:46 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and the band I finally saw in NYC.....All members were in the zone.....same energy.......and our one Canadian musician didn't disappoint.

Btw, Karl Wallinger was with The Waterboys when I saw them in the 80's and will this week go to same club to see Steve Earle again!

I'm a very affluent person.......so much great live music in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D


Entered at Wed Nov 16 17:26:41 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

We're setting sail
To the place on the map from which no one has ever returned
Drawn by the promise of the joker and the fool
By the light of the crosses that burn
Drawn by the promise of the women and the lace
And the gold and the cotton and pearls
It's the place where they keep all the darkness you need
You sail away from the light of the world on this trip baby
Pay, you will pay tomorrow
You're gonna pay tomorrow
You will pay tomorrow
Save me, save me from tomorrow
I don't want to sail with this ship of fools, no no
Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow
I don't want to sail with this ship of fools, no no
I want to run and hide
Right now
Avarice and greed are gonna drive you over the endless sea
They will leave you drifting in the shallows
Drowning in the oceans of history
Travellin' the world, you're in search of no good
But I'm sure you'll build your Sodom like I knew you would
Using all the good people for your galley slaves
As your little boat struggles through the the warning waves
But you will pay, you will pay tomorrow
You're gonna pay tomorrow
You gonna pay tomorrow
Save me, save me from tomorrow
I don't want to sail with this ship of fools, no
Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow
I don't want to sail with this ship of fools, no
Where's it comin' from or where's it goin' to?
It's just a, it's just a ship of fools
All aboard

Karl Walllinger from World Party (formerly of The Waterboys)...Ship Of Fools

A life coach's prescription....3 A's.....Aknowledge, Accept...Action! Keep who is in power accountable!


Entered at Wed Nov 16 17:13:11 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I with Jed's wife on this. Smart lady. It is hard to do though. But watching a steady stream of madness and hypocracy day after day is not a healthy thing to be doing. The 500th edition of the "booing" story is positively charming by comparison.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 17:09:14 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Raconteur

I listened. Robbie Robertson tells a lovely story and tells it well.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 17:05:41 CET 2016 from (83.68.10.60)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Location: Low countries

Subject: Robbie's stories

Solomon, at least there is some consistency in RR's story.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 17:03:52 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.16)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Mose Allison.

This week could be the magnificent seven. It's like Yul Brenner & Steve McQueen acknowledging the count as they added men.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 16:50:27 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.16)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jed, there is no hiding from this. That's a fact whether you like it or not.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 15:25:32 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The tattoo photo was sent to me and is local, Jed. I just found it a funny story.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 14:23:37 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: RR

Watched Robbie-Van Zant seemed a bit farklempt,but RR is a great storyteller.Even though most of us here have heard most of these stories from Robbie before.Looking forward to starting to read the book later today!


Entered at Wed Nov 16 14:20:18 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Peter/Trump

Peter-you seem incredibly involved in thinking about trump and the implications of his presidency(ugh,did I just say that?!).My wife has imposed a house rule-when we are home together,no mention of trump's name,no watching news,and other preventive measures.My wife gets too upset focusing any of her energies on this nut job.I asked her if she can keep this going for 4-8 years and she said she's committed to trying.Peter,you might want to adopt some of my wife's strategy-it might minimize your aggravation levels.I'm trying to stay away from trump stuff,but I have less self control than my wife,and I tend not to personalize these things anyway.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 14:15:30 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Steve Van Zandt is very engaging. Why the guy doing the intro had to look down and read a short paragraph from text, I don’t know. The NYPL guy, Steve and Robbie all need to do actors’ projection and breathing exercises. After 5 minutes they’re easing up and not breathing heavily … nerves have gone. But they’re all a bit breathless at the start. That’s why I always did a few minutes breathing exercises before a talk.

It’s beautifully told. He has just over an hour to go through the whole story to a large new audience. I thought he curated it very well, with good timing as he introduced each member of The Band, and held the names back.

The first meeting with Bob Dylan at a session was new. And hearing Like A Rolling Stone in the studio. He does add “I was a little further along with guitar than Mike Bloomfield”. I know the “booing” story is well-honed, but it is the best version. I think we knew he was going to have to tell it.

I’m dubious about the chronology of setting up everything in the basement for their own purposes before Bob saw it.

“We didn’t make a mistake on any of the 21 songs.” That’s another. So why overdubbing?


Entered at Wed Nov 16 14:11:38 CET 2016 from (24.114.70.127)

Posted by:

Bill M

Solomon: So Robbie is as boring as the rest of us. Might as well give up hoping and praying if your worst fears have already been confirmed.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 11:07:06 CET 2016 from (79.75.178.163)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Testimony

I can only hope and pray the book is not filled with the same stories that Robbie has been telling us word perfect for the last 40 odd years. I think after watching the video interview my worst fears have been confirmed.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 09:17:14 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Tattoo You

I just got a photo of the NY Post with the guy with a tattoo of Donald Trump on his leg. The NY Post said he was from Poole, Dorset, but I Googled to get the picture and it's better in The Sun, UK (linked) which has more information … while the tattoo was done here in Poole, the man tattooed is from Salisbury in Wiltshire, confirming all our Dorset prejudices against our neighbouring county.

What's scary is this guy might be driving around the streets near me behind the wheel of a large vehicle. Mind you, I guess Americans have to consider that nearly 50% of the drivers coming the other way are people who voted for Trump. But getting his face tattooed on your leg is worse. Mrs V says that as the tattoo place (which I pass frequently) has a template, I should have one tattooed on my buttocks with the mouth in the appropriate position.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 08:01:09 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Thank you, Tim !


Entered at Wed Nov 16 07:59:52 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.56)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Indeed, inspiring to see Robbie looking so good and vibrant. Just a great interview with Miami Steve that lifted me - at least temporarily - from the sadness and horror of what awaits the world faced with the incomprehensible decisions of putting lunatics like Giuliani, Bannon and the most frieightenning of all John Bolton in charge.......look it up folks....this is the stuff of "B movie" horror movies...and, it's come to a country next door.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 05:24:01 CET 2016 from (114.75.64.248)

Posted by:

Wallsend

That was a great interview with Robbie. I know he has told these stories any number of times and it is all well rehearsed but still great to hear. I liked The Weight at the end, still gives the chills when I hear it and it takes me back to when I was sixteen. I just got my Dylan boxed set and I'm looking forward to getting Robbie's book. It is all good.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 04:38:35 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The perfect song for Trump & Clinton

As I drove down the road today to Campbell River for supplies, when I got to where I get my favourite old FM station from Parksville, here comes ol' Clapton with this song.


Entered at Wed Nov 16 01:14:09 CET 2016 from (108.7.46.186)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Live From NY

streaming live video of his book talk tonight


Entered at Tue Nov 15 21:01:13 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Bobby Charles

Bobby Charles just went up on Toppermost in an excellent article by Dave Stephens. I just commented … do comment over there.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 18:10:03 CET 2016 from (79.75.172.219)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Robbie Robertson's Book on Life in the Band: 10 Revelations

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/robbie-robertsons-book-on-life-in-the-band-10-revelations-w450046


Entered at Tue Nov 15 16:51:39 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson reveals The Band’s tragic rock and roll history in memoir ‘Testimony’

SHERRYS CONNELLY
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, November 13, 2016


Entered at Tue Nov 15 15:27:44 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie tells us about one of his best highs ever.......


Entered at Tue Nov 15 14:08:16 CET 2016 from (81.159.200.5)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: True, Bassmanlee

Senior moment, Bassmanlee. Where did that come from? Am actually playing it just now!


Entered at Tue Nov 15 13:04:38 CET 2016 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Joe & Leon's comments

Sorry, dunc, but it was Easter, not Christmas.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 13:03:29 CET 2016 from (173.59.47.251)

Posted by:

Luke

Location: PA

Subject: Election

Got to VoteFraud.org and you'll see that over 3,000,000 votes were cast by illegals, almost all of them for Clinton. Trump trounced her in the popular vote.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 12:48:35 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Southern Man

In the last couple of weeks, I've been playing the "backing singers" a lot … Merry Clayton, Claudia Lennear, plus Irma Thomas. My current ear worm is Merry Clayton on Southern Man (linked). Now while Lynyrd Skynyrd objected to a white Canadian singing it … how did they feel about a black woman from New Orleans? Merry was "qualified" to comment in a way Neil may not have been.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 10:26:58 CET 2016 from (81.159.200.5)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Leon Russell

I relly liked Joe Cocker - a great live act so it's the Mad Dogs and Englishman album that I'll remember Leon Russell for.

I still think Delta Lady is great and perhaps Leon's line 'Let's Not Get hung Up About Christmas' is very typical of the era, Man.

Leon Russell. RIP.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 10:03:19 CET 2016 from (114.75.197.135)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Rod, I live in Australia now but I try and get back when I can.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 09:00:56 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It’s closing on 700,000 votes now. There’s some weird things on the map. How come Trump got huge margins in New Orleans? But when you look up the Mississippi at the counties votes, there’s a line of blue along the river, though all those states went red.

The problem is that the Electoral College bias reflects the Senate bias. I can’t see how that could be changed … unless someone gets 67% of the Senate. However, today’s paper reports that not only is there a growing movement to abolish the electoral college, or rather sidestep it, but that even Trump likes it. I don’t see it would make that much difference if a new system was still state by state, with a weighting of two to start off with.

From our distance, it seems that state allegiance is much stronger than our county allegiance here, and enshrined because it is a Federal system, though not as strong as our allegiance to each of the four home countries (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland).

In the early 70s some of the historical British counties were cut about, combined, abolished, had borders shifted. It caused grumbling, but it didn’t take us long to get over it.

I was born in the west of Hampshire. That got shifted into Dorset back then (1974?). The main county allegiance seemed to be to cricket teams, and we continued to have a Hampshire cricket ground here for another 20 years. But now we think of ourselves as Dorset, and I prefer it … it’s a much more beautiful county. We’ve even got a Dorset flag, that I had never known nor seen until 5 or 6 years ago, but now it’s everywhere.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 07:45:17 CET 2016 from (219.89.11.109)

Posted by:

Rod

I'm a bit concerned about TLW NZ concerts - for Wellington at least. The Wgtn gig is meant to be at the State Opera House. A lovely old Victorian theatre that would be ideal for the event - a few chandeliers and it would be perfect. But they are still inspecting buildings around town to make sure they are safe to use again. Ironically alot of the more seriously damaged buildings aren't that old. Also the main highway between Christchurch and Wellington is seriously damaged - and the the ferry terminals in between are not functioning at full capacity. But if the gig goes on I'm sure there will be a good turnout. We're used to the odd quake or two and I don't want to miss my photo opportunity with Garth.

I'd forgotten you were from NZ Wallsend. Are you still out this way?


Entered at Tue Nov 15 04:36:44 CET 2016 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

I think it's important to note that Trump got exactly .1% more votes than Romney in 2012, and Clinton beat him by a full 1% in the popular vote. Whatever Trump picked up from disgruntled Democrats, he lost an equal number of shocked Republicans. Because of the Electoral College, Trump won the presidency based on 100,000 votes in three states.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 04:06:43 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Trump wants his children to have top national security clearance


Entered at Tue Nov 15 03:23:41 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Trumpylvania has a ring to it.

If i didn't have a conscience, i'd be selling Trumpylvania T shirts in the next ten minutes.

My conscience gets in the way of all kinds of things.


Entered at Tue Nov 15 00:05:47 CET 2016 from (114.75.197.135)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

The up coming shows in New Zealand are looking good. My mum still lives in Christchurch. It was strange going back there after the big earthquake and seeing so many of the places where I used to hang out as a teenager destroyed. Sad to hear about the damage and deaths in Kaikoura this time. We used to go on family holidays to a place called Gore Bay which is just south of there. I wonder if there has been damage there too.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 23:00:49 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Tough Guy Trump Supporter Woman Beater Coward

This was in the "New Brooklyn" end of Brooklyn. Down here, in my neck of the woods, even though it voted Trump, the old timers, men and women, be they Trump or Hillary supporters, would killed this guy.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 22:53:20 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A "Bad" Mel Brooks Movie?

I was driving home and I started to laugh out loud thinking about lines from "Blazing Saddles".

"Awright.....we'll take the N..g.rs & Ch..ks, but we don't want the Irish! The last two months have seemed to echo this kind of rhetoric......unfortunately it will never be funny.

I can't see anything good coming of this. While I was driving home just now I stopped at the dip in the road by Alice Lake where it flooded the other day when I couldn't get home. I got out with my tape measure. The lake surface is about 8 feet below the road and the other day the water on the road was 4 feet deep so that lake came up about 12 feet in a matter of two days.

I first came here in 1964 and have been here off and on until I bought my house 11 years ago. Never has that road had water on it. Is the global warming causing us all these weather problems every where?


Entered at Mon Nov 14 22:11:07 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Noam Chomsky on Trump


Entered at Mon Nov 14 21:25:45 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bruce Springsteen: Interview with The Boss - BBC News


Entered at Mon Nov 14 19:18:09 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Magical Musical Year.....2012-13

It was during this sabbatical year that I did some travelling and paid the big bucks to see some musicians for the first time and others because.....It all began with Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival. Once I heard Robbie would be performing I thought.....now or never. imagezulu had to work.....vicarious work......changes everyone in every way......and I didn't even ask my friends to join me as too expensive and I wanted to be in NYC for six days so I could also see.....

The Rascals as well as the musical "Once" and a dance company in the West Village. Same year I finally saw The Eagles......very disappointed that Felder wouldn't be present but again.....now or never......and now Frey is gone......Joni Mitchell's birthday concert was at Massey Hall. I saw her at Dylan's Rolling Thunder Review and with Dylan at Maple Leaf Gardens but this show was more intimate of course.......many great musicians performing her songs......She watched on stage.......To end my year of travel and music......as well as energy exchange at an Acupuncture Clinic......I saw The Rolling Stones for the third time only because finally I would see Mick Taylor with them whereas in the nineties I saw Mick Taylor solo, not with The Stones at Heaven.....former disco club? When I did see Mick solo.....All I remember was a dark vibe......Anyway, besides Robbie.....He'd be my other favourite guitarist.

This week I will be seeing Steve Earle with his band performing complete Guitar Player recording for a fundraiser for Parkinson's disease. The previous time was with Emmylouuu, Prine, Cockburn for Concert Against Landmines. The friend who asked me to join her as her mom has this disease hung out with Steve and her X who is a Toronto musician whose family name is the same as one of our colleges.......back in 1988 when Steve was a bad boy.........People can change.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 18:57:44 CET 2016 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Leon Russell

Sad to hear about Leon. He was scheduled to appear in Wilmington last month and I was contemplating going, and then the listing disappeared, then re-appeared for February. Sadly not to be. The whole Mad Dogs/Okie tribe/Derek & Dominoes thing was big for me in the days when my parents were separating. I spent a lot of time listening to Leon & co. then. It is a shame that the general public never knew the extent of his talent and songwriting. This Masquerade, Song For You, Back To The Island, and many more. We'll miss you, Leon.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 18:42:35 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

It's really a mess. Where I live is ultra conservative. Some of the local stores I use for supplies for my concession business actually had Trump signs up. Before the election I found it annoying, now I don't want to do business with them. Do I cut off my nose to spite my face type thing.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 18:39:54 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bob- on that hate thing- the really super wealthy people i know who voted for Trump, I'd have to say they hate poor people. They'd never admit it, but they do. They protect their money to protect themselves from poor people. And they're the worst tippers I've ever witnessed in anything..


Entered at Mon Nov 14 18:34:59 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.120)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norm, I have a very good friend of over 30 years who was born in a different country, is a minority, a professional musician for close to 50 years,& a lifelong conservative who voted for Trump. He has never made much money, & his wife has often supported him. He's a superior musician, blues is his main genre, but he's versed in the works, going way back in many genres, obscure shit, with serious deep knowledge & breadth... He's always been a right winger. He's lost friends over it. I've had arguments with him but we always manage to remain close friends. I've also over looked the fact that he's a moron other ways too- no one is perfect & he usually hurts himself. His votes hurt other people but he has the right to that vote..

I know other musicians who voted for Trump. I know tons of people who did. The millionaires are plain old convinced they are only protecting their money, or that & are racists too. The middle class & lower class i know who voted Trump are all racists in their way. Some boldfaced racist against blacks & hispanics.. Many of them are contradictory racists- have false larger beliefs yet are not racist in most personal dealings. I know black people who voted for Trump- one's a retired Captain in the NY State troopers.

Me, I can't reconcile voting for Trump with not being a racist. But i do know people who i don't consider racists that voted for Trump. Yet, by voting for Trump they voted for a guy who promotes racism & has to be a racist.He's likely a Hitler.

There's some peculiar, dare i say interesting subcategories in racism & beliefs. It's weird, very troubling, & widespread throughout most of society. So many people have beliefs about people of various colors, people of various ethnicities, that they hold true in general, but not in their dealings with individuals who they are put in direct contact with & get to know. Sometimes life leads them to learn they're wrong, & grow, usually they just hold on to their core prejudice in lesser ways, but treat the people they deal with well.

Bob, on Hillary & Israel, I'm not so sure she loves or is great for Israel, but I voted for her & voted for Obama twice & he's not great for Israel at all. I thought Bernie would have very likely been the worst for Israel out of anyone. Yet i think Trump is the most dangerous for everyone. How Netanyahu or so many Orthodox Jews love Trump is beyond me.

At this point, i expect some degree of serious violence here. Even if it short lived. I don't see it being avoidable.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 18:19:10 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Scar the hyenas and The Pride Land

After over a year of spreading hate, "Stop It". Remember Scar and the hyenas destroying The Pride Land.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 17:55:46 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Don't feel you can't keep saying it, Bob … I feel we'll have plenty of reasons to keep talking about the bastard.

The Electoral College has a permanent bias which is based deep in the constitution. As it's one per Senator and one per representative, each state gets two electors before you start counting population. That's a bias to the central states with small populations, though I guess Rhode Island and Delaware counterbalanced a tad. It's so fundamental in the Federal system, that I can't see how it can be disentangled.

We have been chipping away here at unequalled sized constituencies. It reached a peak in the 1960s when the range of voters was massively different … I think it went from around 15,000 to 120,000. Boundaries have been redrawn ever since. It was reset at 5% allowable variation, but a few will be allowed a 10% variation when it's redrawn in 2018. That's to allow obviously "separate" areas like the Isle of Wight to have a representative without sharing with the mainland. It's a political hot potato here because 2018 will reflect the population shift southwards so will almost certainly favour the Conservatives.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 17:41:06 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

60 Minutes....Trump to supporters harassing minorities: 'Stop it'


Entered at Mon Nov 14 17:41:54 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Could it Be??

Just an observation Bob, it "appears" that any one who voted for this character could not be a music lover. I may be wrong but on this site I don't recall any one ever showing support for this pres. elect.

WAR! What is it good for.......absolutely nothin'...say it agin y'all.

No one has acknowledged the news shown on line. The Ku Klux Klan in South Carolina are preparing a victory march to honor the victory of the president elect. That should puff out his chest.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 17:29:23 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Dave Chappelle Election Night - SNL


Entered at Mon Nov 14 17:01:40 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

This will be my last post on this I promise. Just think about how impossible for anyone to justify why they voted for Trump without bringing up the Hate word. It can't be for his great business smarts. Unless you count ripping off everyone you did business with as a plus. It can't be because of his support of the American worker. All of his products including the material for his buildings came from somewhere else. Hillary Clinton is one of the biggest Israel supporters so that excuse is out the window. How about his morals. The man has been married several times leaving each wife for a younger version. Plus at 60 years old he's on tape as a sexual predator. No question about it, Hate would have been the only reason someone would have voted for him.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 17:01:03 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Check 'What's New".

Bill M: Nov 22-24 are the dates given for the NZ tour for Garth Hudson and Maud Hudson.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 16:58:20 CET 2016 from (24.114.68.100)

Posted by:

Bill M

Weren't Garth and Maud (and John Simon) to be in New Zealand around now? The earth moved.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 16:45:24 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: CIUT FM John Donabie

I encourage all who love radio to listen to John Donabie on CIUT-FM (get it on line on your computer) to hear what FM radio used to be like when most of us older music lovers learned about our music. Saturdays at 2-4 EST and the shows are archived there. A breath of fresh air! You will fall in love with radio again.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 16:32:15 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: This and That

Dunc, thanks for another laugh out load moment.

Whoever voted for Trump is a hater. Maybe a racist, or homophobic or just a plain old fashioned redneck woman hater. No matter what they have hate in their heart. Many of his middle class supporters just hate poor people across the board. I've not met one yet who did not boast their Trump support without combining it with a negative hateful comment about someone else. Just awful.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 16:14:03 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: The minority of absolute number of votes wins..so far

600,000 votes!!! A minority of the population have their leader. Time to look at the Electoral College as a means of deciding when every vote should count.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 16:07:26 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Garth Hudson said... Back to The Band

Hudson tells Simon Morris on Standing Room Only that as a young man he never imagined making a career out of music.

"I didn't know I would become serious about it, but I do remember when I was in high school a guidance teacher would call us to his office and told me it's better I stick to agriculture, better to keep music as a glorified hobby."


Entered at Mon Nov 14 16:03:14 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Whitewashing/Soap

If what we say and write is not who we are, then how can one judge anyone? The whitewashing and cleansing has immediately begun (on CNN, on 60 minutes, and everywhere else). There is not enough white paint or soap to cover the stains or clean off the dirt. Just witness the early choices of leadership. 'Danger, Will Robinson.'


Entered at Mon Nov 14 15:56:48 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Dance Me To The End of Love

And a link to the late Leonard Cohen....Despite being structured as a love song, this was in fact inspired by the Holocaust. Cohen recalled: "That came from just hearing or reading or knowing that in the death camps, beside the crematoria, in certain of the death camps, a string quartet was pressed into performance while this horror was going on, those were the people whose fate was this horror also. And they would be playing classical music while their fellow prisoners were being killed and burnt."


Entered at Mon Nov 14 15:24:48 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Keep your eyes and ears open

Dunc: Thanks for your comments: Serious is OK. I lost 2/3 of my immediate family-to-be (uncles, aunts, grandparents, cousins) to the gas chambers and ovens of the killing camps. Teaching the holocaust is the work of cultural heroes. It must continue in these days of racism and hate against so many. Teaching this history is one way to remind all of what is possible. As Jeff said, no surprises and so we who are realists must continue to remember and teach and speak out and identify what is. This crap is still going on today. 'Build the wall!" chanted by children at a school and the spewing of racial comments on campuses and swastikas in Philadelphia tell us everything we need to know. Though a tiny fraction of the population participates actively in this racism, it sits just under the surface. Keep your eyes and ears open.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 14:10:59 CET 2016 from (81.159.200.5)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Asleep At The Wheel and various

Have been babysitting all weekeend, but it's been fun, but time consuming.

Pity we never met up, BEG. We have quite a few things in common. Was it the Spanish Civil War you refer to? Nearly met up with Bill M, but his e mail was too late.

Brooklyn politician seems a really honest guy, Jeff.

Bob F. You think it's bad because you lost your knickers in Toronto. You would have been boasting about that once. We're bottom of the second division and Scotland has just been humped three nothing by England.

Peter the pink comes from Scotland's Victorian strip - the racng colours of Lord Roseberry. They wanted to play in the traditional navy and white, but the present Scottish strip has white, short sleeves, Arsenal style, and that obnoxious body called FIFA wouldn't let them wear it because they said it clashed with England.

But you have some special players - the two up front, Rooney and Stones. We don't. But it was a case of who took their chances. We did not bad. Everybody seems to be shouting for Strachan's head.

Yet we are doing well in other sports - we have the best tennis player in the world, one of the greatest boxers in the world and two Olympic champion cyclists.

Thanks JT. Always enjoy your posts. Genuinely sorry about your grandparents. I worked in the part of Glasgow where the small Jewish population resided and we spent a lot of time educating teachers and pupils on lessons to be learnt from the Holocaust. That's when I met an amazing man, the cantor of the local synagogue, who survived Belsen and gave his time to educating children. His theme was kindness and age appropriate.(Sorry, this is a serious post for a GB site.)

The local record/CD shop which was closing has been kept open by a guy who works at the local university. Bought an Asleep At The Wheel CD - two albums on one disc. Something new for me. Me and the Missus are jiving to Chattanooga Choo Choo.

Glad you are ok, Rod.


Entered at Mon Nov 14 00:28:38 CET 2016 from (219.89.27.183)

Posted by:

Rod

thanks for your concerns everyone. Got woken up just after midnight by a particurily strong quake. I'm in Wellington which has had some relatively minor damage but the wharves seem to be quite badly affected. I'm at home today as most buildings in the CBD are shut while the engineers check them out. Always unsettling as there are so many faultlines around this area. The scientists will be trying to figure out what the impact on those has been.



Entered at Mon Nov 14 00:05:57 CET 2016 from (70.68.113.53)

Posted by:

Lisa

Web: My link

Some words from Adam Cohen.

And CBC's Cross Country Checkup (a national call-in radio program on a timely topic du jour) was on Leonard Cohen today, with lots of people sharing stories of his concerts, meeting him, etc., including people who knew him. I'm so glad they chose him, and not that other person in the headlines.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 23:51:38 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Natural Disasters

You are right Jerry not so far away. Sad to hear of harm from these disasters where ever they may be. The death of one or two is still too many.

We will be going down that way soon, to see our girl and her family in Brisbane.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 23:28:33 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: New Zealand

New Zealand is a beautiful country. Thanks, Jeff, for reminding us. It is a big planet and lots of it seems far away, but it is just around the curve. I hope all is well with you in NZ.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 23:24:59 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Levon & John Anderson

To enforce that John Anderson link … Levon with John Anderson and Vassar Clements on fiddle doing The Weight in 1994.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 23:23:13 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Toppermost: John Anderson

See link to new Toppermost article on John Anderson by Andrew Shields … a Band connection.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 21:56:10 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Leon Russell

I saw him in 1971, Just after the Mad Dogs tour, but very few of us in a big hall - Bournemouth Winter Gardens. He told us all to come to the front rows, which we did. I know Claudia Lennear was singing with him, but my memory says Merry Clayton too. Phenomenal all-out show in spite of a tiny audience. RIP.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 21:13:11 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG

I understand your question now. Things changed in 1975; as FM radio tightened up to compete with stations; just across the border. Free form radio as you knew it ceased to exist. It did continue in other cities for a couple of more years. My show on CIUT is like the way you remember it; in the late 60's and early 70's.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 20:35:31 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Rod, all our best wishes from Christchurch, UK, which is where I was this morning.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 19:40:09 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Politicians!!!!!!!

I guess by now we should never be amazed at what politicians say and do. They shake their fist and holler about all the things they are going to do!..........then....hahaha!....I was only kidding.

Now it's not going to be a "WALL", I'll accept a fence in some places.......well isn't that a wall with holes in it? Gimmie a break. That's like I've always said. Putting a screen door on a submarine and sayin' Dive! Dive!

This is so pathetic I'm getting belly laughs out of it now.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 19:22:01 CET 2016 from (24.114.65.41)

Posted by:

Bill M

In '73. My highschool brought in some CHUM-FM roadshow. DJ David Marsden (Band Link: He's previously manager the Revols as Dave Mickie) took some questions and showed us the "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" movie. The Master of Time and Space - to a point.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 18:50:45 CET 2016 from (174.88.217.37)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: New Zealand

I'll echo Jeff, Rod. Hope you all are safe. (I actually know someone in Christchurch [via Kingston, Jamaica]. I hope she and her family are okay.)


Entered at Sun Nov 13 18:20:22 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.93)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Rod

I'm hoping you, your family, & friends are all okay.That's a horrible disaster that hit & is hitting your country & I feel for all effected.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 17:38:18 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Many thanks to Richard Patterson who exposed me to Everclear. We were sharing many covers of brown eyed girl in this GB......and Richard shared this one.

It's a beautiful morning......well almost noon now......get up and go out and enjoy the beauty that surrounds us....I will trump all the haters out there.....as beauty trumps ugliness anytime.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 17:25:29 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JOHN D....At one time....The time I arrived in Toronto.....FM meant something as it was progressive in nature. DJ'S didn't have to play a certain set of songs; they had more freedom to play what they wanted They played concept albums....Listeners could call in and if you were lucky they'd play song requested. Once the format changed.....can't remember when......I no longer listened to the radio. Ahhhh....I'm partly wrong here......I did listen in bed with my portable radio....AM....Even in the early eighties....I was in Clifton, New Jersey staying with an X.....and I listened to the radio at night. (He did take me to Hoboken to hear jazz on the strip as he was a former musician.) Sorry....I haven't listened to your show.....yet. I was working part-time on Saturdays and I know.....It's archived.....but I like to hear it live.......Sorry.....Now that I have more time.....I will listen up! Really happy for you that you get to have some fun with music these days....ultra cool John.

AM Radio...Everclear

There isn't any place that I need to go
There isn't anything that I need to know
That I did not learn on the radio


Entered at Sun Nov 13 17:09:33 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: 1966 Dylan live

John D: My copy (from Amazon.ca )is going to Toronto and I won't be there until late November. I assumed I'd have it from my iTunes Canada subscription and I didn't get it sent to Victoria, since I keep the majority of my hard copy record collection in Toronto. If maybe iTunes Canada puts it into their Dylan catalogue, then I'll hear it early. I won't buy it on line again. Whenever i finally have access to it, of course I'll chime in.

I have heard many of the recordings in the past (many of those concerts were 'available' before now, but not all together in one collection (except for "Jewels and Binoculars' (as reported in other places).


Entered at Sun Nov 13 17:06:50 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

JOhn D

Web: My link

Subject: BEG

BEG; not sure what you mean about FM disappearing. I have linked to youtube, Louuuuu inducting Leonard Cohen; into the R&RHOF.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 17:01:17 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Leon Russell

A musical giant.A genius.Saw him in '73 and many times over the years.He was a significant influence in how I listen,think about and consider music through the years.A cultural icon to all of us LeonLifers(a kind of fan club I guess).RIP Leon-you will be greatly missed and will always be remembered.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 17:00:06 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you John D! I was aware of The Weight as a young music fan but....I was more into Rod the Mod, Bowie, Louuuu at the time. It was Joan Baez who kept The Weight alive more for me via radio. Speaking of radio John D.....What year did FM radio really disappear? The time when you could call in late at night (I would begin writing my papers at midnight and finish by sunrise.) and request songs and hear concept albums. Do you recall anyone asking for Louuuu to be played by chance? ;-D

Concert For Bangladesh......Norah Jones' Dad......Ravi Shankar......Billy Preston, George Harrison......and now.......Leon Russell......gone but not their music.....

My favourite place in the world.....Anywhere where music is being played. :-D


Entered at Sun Nov 13 16:59:09 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Dylan's 36 CD Box Set & iTunes

Thinking about why iTunes hasn't released the 36 CD box set. Then I looked back and noticed they only released the 2 CD and the 6 CD sets of Cutting Edge. Maybe this is just too big for iTunes. Although here in Canada it sold for $151.00, iTunes could probably sell it for $99.99. Just wondering on a Sunday morning.

Looking forward to JT's take on the box set.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 16:53:32 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Leon

Give me "Back To The Island." RIP Leon.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 16:49:24 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG

The reason you don't remember The Weight is that it was not on the initial release of Mad Dogs. Wasn't until years later in a deluxe edition that it was finally released.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 16:48:19 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Leon Russell

Leon Russell: he was there with Dylan and Harrison. He wrote some lovely songs. RIP.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 16:29:43 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Mad Dogs and Englishmen featuring Joe Cocker and Leon Russell.
The Weight.....and all the rest!
My brother's 8-track was played over and over. Weird that I don't recall listening to The Weight.......Maybe because no one can perform it like.......The Band!


Entered at Sun Nov 13 16:21:30 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

This Masquerade...Leon Russell


Entered at Sun Nov 13 16:15:07 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Record Stores

I was thinking about the demise of record stores as we here have reminisced. We still have 'Ditch' and 'Lyles' in Victoria. In Toronto, Vortex on Yonge St. is now gone. There was a great record store called 'Ed's' on Yonge (now gone). Of course, I went to Sam's on Yonge through the 60's to 90's. Peaches in Miami was excellent when I lived there. In Vancouver, the Beatle's Museum had a great collection of records. We've all heard about the demise of the NYC village record stores and I had the privilege of shopping in them as well as in some great (now gone) San Francisco shops.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 16:11:53 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

We were alone now and I was singing this song for you.

A Song For You Leon Russell......Passed this morning


Entered at Sun Nov 13 15:47:55 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Doug Edwards

The passing of bassist (and multi-instrumentalist) Doug Edwards, who wrote the music for the hit 'Wildflower' should not go unnoticed here. A member of the band Skylark at the time (David Foster and others), this was a major hit and became a standard, covered by many over the years. Doug Edwards continued to perform and be a session man for years thereafter, and for years has played with the band Chilliwack. He died in Vancouver recently.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 15:32:01 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

They still played "O Canada" prior to the start of movies back in the Seventies. As a kid I thought that was the dumbest thing ever. I still do. I was sure glad when that stupidity stopped.

Furthermore I am of the firm belief that there is no place for "O Canada" (or The Star Spangled Banner or any other country's anthem) at any public sporting event that isn't an international competion. It dilutes the value of the song. Faux patriotism gets on my nerves.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 14:35:49 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bernie Sanders: Where the Democrats Go From Here


Entered at Sun Nov 13 14:26:03 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Mike Pence

To understand how horrible it's going to be read this article. Trump is just going to be the chairman of the board. The real evil is going to come from Mike Pence.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 14:25:15 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Listen to the late great poet read Lt.-Col. John McCrae’s signature Remembrance Day poem

In school the kidzzz made peace poppies. Each petal had a peace message. This way we honoured those who go to war....How does your son have the strength to go to war and all that it entails......and come home sane bob?).......but we try and encourage solving problems peacefully......rather than shoot'em up. How are the next generation supposed to learn to solve problems non-violently when our leaders seem to fail at negotiating with other nations????????? One solution.....All women from all warring nations.......No love making until war ends!!!!!

Make LOVE
Not War


Entered at Sun Nov 13 14:20:39 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Thank You

Dunc, thank you. I needed that. lol

Tough week. First the election, then Leonard and to finish it off with gusto, last night my Knicks go to Toronto and lose to the Raptors.



Entered at Sun Nov 13 14:03:18 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Two posts with me in a supermarket in two days … it's meanness. In Waitrose you get a free newspaper if you spend £10 at weekends. The Saturday Telegraph and Sunday Times papers are £2 and £2.50 respectively.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 13:59:51 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Remembrance Day

Remembrance Sunday … we have two x two-minute silences in Britain most years: one on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, the other on the following Sunday. I watched the Royal Albert Hall ceremony last night – by accident actually. I was channel hopping and the music was stupendous. It had bits on WW1 and WW2, and also the injured survivors of the Gulf War and Afghanistan, one a triple amputee. A soulful Abide With Me from Laura Mvula was the highpoint.

So today, I was in a supermarket, which as they all do, respect the silence at 11 a,.m. The tills close. Everyone stands still. But not … at first a Chinese couple continued loudly in Chinese, but I think they sussed it and shut up after 20 seconds. But then an English couple, my age, continued talking loudly by the fish counter, calling for an assistant etc. They had two small kids with them. The fact that fifty people were standing in silence did not affect them – accents were middle class too. I know some think it commemorates war and object, but I could see another man and a woman in their fifties standing still who were tearful. You have to be aware that losses may be recent and close. I thought someone should have remonstrated afterwards … if they hadn’t had small kids with them, I would have, for starters.

In my youth, the whole supermarket would have remonstrated. In those days, the National Anthem was played at the end of every film and you had to stand up and stay still. As teenagers, we’d try to get out in the credits to avoid it. Once I was a tad slow and God Save The Queen had started and I was still moving towards the door. I was about fifteen. A man in his forties smacked me round the ear. Today it would be called assault, but back then everyone round him said “Well done.”


Entered at Sun Nov 13 13:45:11 CET 2016 from (81.159.200.5)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: This is for you Bob F.

And my fellow GB Americans.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 13:36:55 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Everybody Knows

These lyrics describe America now more then ever.

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded

Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed

Everybody knows the war is over

Everybody knows the good guys lost

Everybody knows the fight was fixed

The poor stay poor, the rich get rich

That's how it goes

Everybody knows



Entered at Sun Nov 13 05:56:48 CET 2016 from (64.229.181.241)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronna
Web: My link

JT: Good of you to list Keith McKie, who I probably saw 30 times, mostly '76-'81. His group the Village (with Bruce Palmer, Stan Endersby and Phil Strong) did some truly great shows, as did Keith solo. A memorable arena show was McLaughlin / Santana at MLG in '73 (just like in link - astonishing)

Peter V: The first record I bought full price with my own money was "Hey Jude" in '69. 75 cents - six weeks allowance at the time, so most definitely not a whim.


Entered at Sun Nov 13 04:01:51 CET 2016 from (64.229.181.241)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto
Web: My link

Link to interesting, and enlightening to some degree, interview with Robbie that appeared in today's "Globe and Mail".

In the same section of the paper paper, though not likely the online version, is an hmv ad for "Testimony" - both book and album ("Robbie Robertson / Curates new, career-spanning TESTIMONY Anthology Album / Standout Studio and Live Recordings Featured on Album Companion to Robertson's 'new memoir Testimony') and TLW ("The Band The Last Waltz / Relive the Band's legendary concert with the 40th Anniversary Editions / All newly remastered with rare outtakes and rehearsals / AVAILABLE NOW")


Entered at Sun Nov 13 02:10:42 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Performers seen

I also saw The McCoys, Keith McKie, Bruce Cockburn (twice), Robert Palmer, Squeeze, Holly Cole, Freddie King, Michael Franks, Carlos Santana, Hey Rosetta, New Pornographers, Andrew Bird, John Grant, Stars, Tom Petty, Steely Dan, Sharon Jones and the Dapkings, Lowest of the Low, and Metric.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 23:30:38 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: A Musical History

First music earworms: Lay Down Your Arms by Anne Shelton, and then A White Sport Coat and A Pink Carnation, I’d like to say by “Marty Robbins” but I suspect it was the cover version by Terry Dene, and yes, radio.

First experience of a really good hi-fi- we used to go to my Mum’s friends who babysat us. They had a hi-fi, and played me Dvorak’s New World Symphony loud. I thought I have to get one of those when I grow up. I’m not yet sure if I have.

Then my sister’s friend went away for weeks and left us her record player. My power plays from her box of singles were Here Comes Summer by Jerry Keller and (sigh) Little White Bull by Tommy Steele.

First concert? Little Eva with Brian Hyland and Tommy Roe.

First record bought at full price? Sealed With A Kiss by Brian Hyland, c/w Summer Job.

Today I was in a supermarket in my old part of town, Winton. I rarely go there. The supermarket is on the site of the church youth club I attended as a teenager, and we had the church hall every Saturday to practise. The rest of the group had me fumbling through the Shadows, but I squeezed first Da Doo Ron Ron into the repertoire, then Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley. Can’t Judge A Book was our best number.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 20:50:26 CET 2016 from (86.25.242.77)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: RE: Just Like A Woman lyrics

Peter, the lyric in the original BLONDE OM BLONDE songbook was, more or less, as you heard it in the recording of the Liverpool '66 show.

This was changed in 1973's WRITINGS AND DRAWINGS book to reflect what you hear on the album.

That huge 2014 tome "The Lyrics" includes both lines, attributing what I might call the Liverpool version to Bootleg Series Vol.4 (the so-called "Royal Albert Hall" recording that's actually from Manchester's Free Trade Hall)

To my ears (far from the best in this world), Richard Alderson's 'Nagra' recordings seem to bring out the contributions of the Hawks and Mickey Jones more than I can recall previously.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 20:32:13 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Roberts Creek

Well Roger, you are at least the second Englishman I know who has had a swim there. It's a nice community isn't it.

Many years ago on this site I recall speaking of my cousins, Peter and Gordon. My mum's sister, Aunt Paula married Uncle Trevour, a pilot for British Overseas Airways. That of course became British Airways.

When in our early teens Peter came to visit and him and I swam there a lot as that is what I did every summer.

Peter and Gordon grew up in Surrey to the south east of you. Peter went on to become a pilot after his father. Him and another fellow started a business (aside from his pilot career). They had some sort of school to teach people to over come air sickness. As I understand they became very wealthy from the endeavor. Peter still owns a house in Surrey, a flat in London, a home in Florida and a Villa in Spain. (Him and I don't exactly travel in the same circles)....:-)


Entered at Sat Nov 12 20:01:25 CET 2016 from (86.31.229.95)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Roberts Creek

Hey Norm, I know Roberts Creek. We have friends there - I've used their community sauna on the beach and plunged into a chilly sea!


Entered at Sat Nov 12 17:35:22 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Biography of a Bush Rat

When I was born I was very young.....-:)

My folks lived in Plumper Bay on Quadra Island, (my Dad was born in that bay in 1919. When he passed my brothers and I took mum on my fishboat with her Anglican minister. Had a service in the stern of my boat and put his ashes in the place where the float house had been when he was born.)

There had been a very dangerous reef right in the middle of Seymour Narrows, about a quarter mile below where we lived. In 1957 work was begun and a tunnel was drilled from ashore on Quadra Island out and up into the reef. In 1958 it was blasted. (watch the blast on this video.)

According to mum I started singing about age two. My first musical memories were an old wind up grammaphone the folks had. I can still remember winding that thing and playing "Cigareets and whiskey and wild wild women" and "Uncle Pen".

Jerry, you are absolutely right, radio was our musical medium. In our case the radio were those big old cabinet models in beautiful wood finish and with dry battery packs to power them. As well as music does any one remember Lux Radio theater shows at night? The Whistler, Gunsmoke on radio.

After grade school in a few schools, my folks bought their home in Roberts Creek on the Sechelt Peninsula where they remained for over 30 years. I went to Elphinstone High. A few of us "Roberts Creekers" on the bus schedule were the first at the school in the morning and last to leave. We had about an hour to kill before going home. If the weather was lousy and we couldn't play ball, we'd head to Mr. Pete's room.

Les Peterson was a teacher, born in San Joseph Bay in a little cabin a few miles up the west coast from Quatsino Sound where I now live. He wrote a book, "The Cape Scott Story" about the communities of this north island, before WW1. Mr Pete as we called him was a great guy.

Any way there was, I guess a half dozen of us who started playing guitars and singing together. I was fourteen. Started with some of the Kingston Trio. Tom Dooley remember. Practicing those harmonies.

After my old man kicked me out, (he saw no value in school), "get out and work". I worked on log booming grounds in Howe Sound. My bass player and I rented a place together. I had the first rock and roll band ever on the Sechelt Peninsula. A real lot of Chuck Berry.....Jerry.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 16:40:37 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: John Hammond, Eric Truffaz, Diana Krall

One time I was at the top of Sutton Place on Bay Street and there was a young lady sitting at the piano playing and singing while people stood around drinking and talking and paying little attention - It was something special - I asked who that is playing and singling - Diana Krall!

On 2 occasions, I was at the waterfront in a small open air venue to hear - John Hammond (Jr) and Eric Truffaz. I've heard/seen John Hammond many times since. He is a blues treasure.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 16:13:46 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: One More Thing... Radio, Radio

I cannot overstate the importance of radio to my music evolution. From John Donabie, to Big G Walters, to David Pritchard, to Davy Mickey, To Bob Lane to Roger Ashby to Reiner Schwartz - these people on essentially 3 Toronto stations were my source of music for the 60s to the 80s and more. Now I get all my information on line with this machine that is sitting in front of me and the radio is not often turned on. The exception of course is CIUT from UofT- played at the Quad at University College as I sat eating lunch as I learned medicine in the late 60s to mid-seventies. And with John Donabie, I'm again back to my alma mater (I never really left).


Entered at Sat Nov 12 16:03:28 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Took a deep breath

1. Leonard Cohen (saw him many times in 70s to 90s) +Neil Young/4 dead/ CSNY

2. Steely Dan - my tangential introduction to the 'jazz effect' b) Teagarden and VanWinkle at York U

3. Miami - Peaches

4. Who the hell is Mark Knopfler and where did Dire Straits come from? Wore that album out too

5. Talking Heads

6. Headstones

7. David Bowie (saw the 'Let's Dance' tour at CNE

8. Saw Dylan many times (Paul James and Mark Knopfler were memorable).

9. Madeleine Peyroux

10. Jeff Healy

11. Blackie and the Rodeo Kings

12.Stephen Fearing

13. Waterboys - what a surprise that was for me

14. Tea Party

15. Dandy Warhols (the soundtrack of a trip down the west coast -13 Tales)

16. Death Cab For Cutie

17. So many bands who played local pubs and bars and remain unheard by the masses (so glad I have this privilege)

18. Leonard Cohen in 2013 - the perfect show


Entered at Sat Nov 12 15:23:30 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: My life in music

1. My mom told me that when I was 3 I used to listen to radio and sang "Shrimp Boats are Coming" by Jo Stafford

2. 1956 0r 57 -At the pavilion near Lake Simcoe public beach in Jackson's Point, I heard on the juke box 'Searchin' by the Coasters - that sound still resonates in my brain.

3. Bought ' Carol' (Chuck Berry) (he sang 'Oh Carol', I think)-1959 or so (a 78 RPM).on Eglinton Ave. in Toronto

and played it on my little record player

4. Early 60's - saw 'The Dimensions' at high school - soon to evolve into 'A Passing Fancy' 'I'm Losing Tonight'). I was flummoxed by the sound. They were mainly a Rolling Stones cover band and they were good.

5. Listened to Big G.Walters at CKEY and learned about R&B and soul in the early 60s

6. More radio at CKFH and CHUM FM and had the privilege of hearing John Donabie and many others, including Bob Lane who gave his math questions after 11 PM to phone in and answer

7. Heard Bob Dylan on the radio and bought 'Times' and then 'Freewheelin'. The rest is history

8. Loved the blues of the Rolling Stones and wore out the first 5 records

9. Went to the Concord Tavern on Saturdays to hear/see Levon and the Hawks, and then David Clayton Thomas and Jon and Lee and the Checkmates.

10. Saw/heard Bob Dylan with Levon and the Hawks Nov. 15, 1965. Holy S..t!!!

11.The music exploded as I went to university and I learned to love the Beatles

12.Saw Jimi Hendrix at MSG in NYC 1967 as the stage rotated. Incendiary

13.Saw Simon and Garfunkel at Massey Hall when the second album just came out'

14. Was at Varsity for one of the early rock and roll shows with The likes of Alice Cooper and many, many others. A classmate was smoking.'n 15. Saw Johnny Winter early on at Massey Hall

16. Much more thereafter, but those were the first 23 years on the planet.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 14:40:40 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth and Levon hangin' out....and many others of Band members.

Beautiful surprise today to learn more about Fred and Dunc!
Your background is fascinating Fred as you've now lived in three countries! My brother told me that when he was in Japan, he saw Bryan Ferry going down while he was going up in a hotel elevator!
Like yourself Fred....My mother's family in Europe owned land and had a comfortable life. One sister became a principal. The other sister moved to Australia with partner and taught her own language. My mother's brother worked for the small town....white collar.....same as my mom's father. My own mother skipped two grades in school but once the war came through......She had to drop out of high school and take care of her younger siblings. Father's family seemed to all own their own restaurants. When everyone eventually came to Canada....Everyone owned their own home and car and lived comfortably.

I would have met you Dunc while in Toronto if I had known that your partner was also with you. At the time I was living solo and this GB and social media was very new to me and I was more guarded at the time. When I started teaching, if you were a male you had an excellent chance to be hired in elementary school....JK/SK to grade six.....but especially in primary....JK/SK to grade three. If you were a female educator and had credentials to teach secondary.....grade nine to twelve.....excellent chances.....especially in science and math. My housemate from Aberdeen....He worked for the Ministry of Tourism. I learned a lot about the gay community. I was in grad school at the time.....two years in child study. He told me that I inspired him to become an educator as well. Anyway, he was one of the best housemates ever! One weird or unusual thing......He never listened to music!

The other day I was venting about a couple of things......Today I will share one simple thing that brings us such joy daily! Every day four beautiful cardinals arrive on our patio. The baby girl even lets me watch her eat the seeds I put on top of our air conditioner.....They have a specific sound so when they arrive in the early morning one of us jumps out of bed to go downstairs to feed them and just.....enjoy their beauty.

Today I am going to a workshop to learn how to make a probiotic......fermented sauerkraut!
Happy belated Octoberfest to Serenity!


Entered at Sat Nov 12 14:19:09 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: primary schools / soccer

More males in primary schools … badly needed for young boys role models. When I was first doing teacher training in 1978, we had a mixed group of teachers and tested them on arrival. We did a lot of peer group micro-teaching, practising small skills like eye contact, or choosing someone to answer and recording performance on video. The outstanding two in one group were Danish men, who also scored highest in the English language test. They both taught primary English language, and as they said, the highest teaching skills / best teachers should be directed to primary. The same is true with beginners in English language learning, whether teenagers or adults … I always put the best teachers at beginner level. By the time students got to Advanced, they could find stuff for themselves.

Even the England players interviewed afterwards said the match was much closer than the scoreline (3-0) suggested. I really still don’t understand those pink Scotland shirts. England play in white. Scotland play in dark blue. Twas ever thus. There is no clash for TV cameras. Why change? (Mind you I also think for England v Scotland, I’d want England in black shorts and Scotland in white, as traditionally done).

For the non-British, in my youth the Home Countries Championship every year rivalled the European or World Cups. It's long gone. The highlight was the England / Scotland match (it was really a two horse race out of the four home countries). It causes as much excitement as any major international.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 13:01:19 CET 2016 from (31.53.125.224)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Very interesting posts

I enjoyed reading posts. Very interesting how our lives tie up.

I was a primary teacher, BEG and as part of a Commonwealth exchange I visited 10 Toronto primary schools and did a talk at a breakfast meeting for a group of Toronto schools. I was part of an initiative to get more males into primary schools. Males had only been allowed into primary teaching courses a couple of years earlier for the first time in Scotland. This is over 40 years ago. Because of a sporting background, I was asked to become a primary teacher than be a secondary teacher.

I had a solid, working class background, but it teaches you to look after yourself

I revisited Toronto for a holiday with my wife and I went down to visit Richard's grave, bench and plaque in Stratford. I went to a great Solomon Burke concert at Massey Hall. And John D was there on the same evening and wrote about it in the GB. I was sorry I never met John D.

Rockin Chair interesting. In between university and college, I took a year off and worked at the docks - on tugs, cleaning up after dockers, fixing the railways, working with the dock mason, laying drains for landfills, docking boats etc. I understand how the cold can exhaust you and I can remember the pressure on captains' faces docking tugs and pilots in bad weather while everybody else seems to be waiting. But with the money I earned I spent two months travelling part of France and Spain. Remember to use that rocking chair, Rockin Chair.

As well as music, I have visited many parts of Europe and my own country Scotland. I really love Scotland, its beauty and its people, and I'm glad I was born in a small country. There is a real sense of belonging, but we have problems too. As well as music, I really like art, gardening, politics and sport. Especially youth football. I have a close family, which involves much babysitting.

Thanks for commisserations, Peter. I thought we were unlucky. It was a case of who took their chances and the English goals were good. Ken Kesey is great. If you can see it, watch Still Game on i player this week to see how his influence continues. Still Game has cult status up here.

So that's me. It's Saturday - away to toddlers' football. It's a laugh.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 11:52:36 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Old folks boogie

3 grandfathers and 4 grandmothers.

My father's mother died when he was 2, his father remarried shortly thereafter. She died a few years before I was born. As my father immigrated to Canada I only saw my grandfather 3 times. he passed away when I was 8 or 9.

My maternal grandparents... I was always at their house (on the other side of town) as my mother taught at the elementary school near their place and I of course went there, too. and my father's business (TV repair) was in that neighbourhood.

Then we we moved to southern Ontario in 1972 they moved with us and we lived together. Until my mother died and my Dad remarried. The grandparents moved back and eventually we moved to Italy...and stayed with my new grandparents for a bit. And naurally I spent a lot of time visiting them, too, as they didn't live that far from our place.

And that's how I ended up with 3 grandfathers and 4 grandmothers. : )

All of them working class, although my paternal grandfather was a land-owning farmer until his first wife died...he had to sell off his property to pay for the medical bills, then became a professional gardener working for a rich family until the day he retired.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 04:22:47 CET 2016 from (64.229.181.241)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Bonk: Trump is certainly not 'up there'. Not only was he anywhere near 53% (he's apparently on a slow downward slide from 47.4% as additional results dribble in), but he currently has nearly 400,000 FEWER votes than Hilary Clinton (at 47.7%).


Entered at Sat Nov 12 03:51:53 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Three

In addition to Leonard Cohen, bassist Victor Bailey ( Weather Report) and actor Robert Vaughan died today.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 03:48:26 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: KKK Trump Victory Parade

""TRUMP = TRUMP'S RACE UNITED MY PEOPLE," says the website's front page."

He needs to be brought down now, before he takes office. Any U.S. Citizen that does not consider themselves a racist needs to get engaged.


Entered at Sat Nov 12 01:24:06 CET 2016 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

Bonk

Subject: elections

And in Canada we average about 59% WTF?


Entered at Sat Nov 12 01:11:09 CET 2016 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Election

Since 1960 there has been 15 Presidential elections. In 56 years the average turnout of eligible voters has been 55% with a low of 48% and a high of 62%. In each election the winner comes in at an average of winning 53% of the votes cast. Trump is right up there. My question is what the hell happens to the almost 50% of the eligible voters that don't vote. Where are they?


Entered at Sat Nov 12 01:00:31 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: This is happening now.

Trump needs to address this solidly & resolutely or step down. If he does neither, the Republican party better hand the Presidency to Hillary or there will be bloodshed in the streets here any day.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 23:41:30 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: England v Scotland (soccer)

Dunc, commiserations. I couldn’t help feeling throughout that Scotland were embarrassed by turning out in pink shirts. I was imagining the reaction of Billy Bremner, Kenny Dalgleish, Dennis Law and Joe Jordan if the Scottish FA had said, ‘OK, guys. Tonight you’re playing in pink.”


Entered at Fri Nov 11 23:23:45 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

No, I haven't read "Workers Paradise Lost" though I've heard of it.

On the Dylan set, I started with Liverpool because (a) they took Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues as the I Want You B-side, and on A Musical History, Tell Me Momma is from the same incomplete show, which made me guess it was one of the best they had. Listening to Like a Rolling Stone, the piano is really distinct at last on the Liverpool show. And Mickey Jones did nail the ultimate Like A Rolling Stone drum part.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 23:12:59 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: My neighbors.

Immigrant criminals, probably somehow with ties to Putin :-). Maybe one Mexican Russian among em ( that's a joke), that Librado Rivera guy, the rest sure seem to be Russian Yehudim... Trumps buddies, how's he gonna deport em? \


Entered at Fri Nov 11 22:22:25 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Impeachment!

Not sure if any of you have seen this, but they are now finding ways to Impeach this animal before he even takes office. Apparently crimes of fraud concerning Trump University may be providing enough evidence for this to happen.

My biggest thorn is the comment "Right now, with the following I have, I could go out in 5th Avenue and shoot some one and no one would care."

What kind of responsible person who wants to lead a country as great as the USA says some thing that irresponsible and stupid? From that day forward I will not even utter the name of any person? who has that kind of mind set.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 22:10:03 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Clear as mud!

Sorry Peter, the subject line I used, "Workers Paradise Lost" is the name of a book I read made years ago, about the Bolshevik regime in Russia. A huge very long book by Eugene Lyons.

50 years of communism. I was just thinking some people today should read that book to understand how good they have it, and how quickly it can all be ruined. Then it takes a very long time to turn things around and get it back.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 21:56:46 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Just Like A Woman

I've got through 50 years hearing "But when we meet again, introduced as friends" (Blonde on Blonde) and now at Liverpool 14 May 1966 I hear "When we meet again, and I introduce my friends" … astonishing. So much to discover here.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 21:51:25 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John, years ago someone told me that Robbie was playing behind the curtain in the acoustic sets so there were two acoustic guitars. So far I can't hear it at all … I'm sure it's just Bob, but there is so much to check out.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 21:45:00 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

JOhn D

Subject: Peter

You know Peter I am not sure. All I know is that when I put a commercial CD into my computer and iTunes comes up; everything is there. Not with this package. When I saw that iTunes was not selling the box set, I thought it might have something to do with it. Full disclosure........I don't really know.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 21:44:41 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Richard Condon

Which book, Norm? The Manchurian Candidate? All the later Condon offer fascinating conspiracy stuff too.

In the early 70s I planned a thesis on a selection of novels, all focussing on Native Americans in fiction and most the rewriting history. Started with John Barth's The Sot Weed Factor, reminisced through James Fennimore Cooper, but really was interested in 60s stuff … especially "A Talent For Loving" by Richard Condon, "Little Big Man" by Thomas Berger with an excursion to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey. No takers. I had discussions, but no one thought of Condon and Berger as "serious." Their problem.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 18:54:10 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JT, you wrote: "We can only hope that there will be reins and lassoes and some wise women and men who will control the unleashed terror."

Now that trump will be President, and have a Republican majority in Congress, & the Supreme Court is most likely goign to be loaded to the right, the most important politician in the U.S. is Charles Schumer. The highly skilled and highly intelligent Democratic Minority Leader. Ask me, i think he needs Secret Service far more than Trump does. Schumer is the highest risk person in the fucking universe.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 18:26:48 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Workers Paradise Lost

Well Peter, did you ever read that book? You don't hear much from the natives of this continent these days. Perhaps they are thinking quietly, (maybe these sons - a - bitches are finally gonna kill each other off and we can have the land back and live in peace). -:)

Here's the way it goes some nights. It's 22:00 hrs (10 at night). I manage to get my barge on the hip, (the tug fastened alongside). I have two deck hands on this trip which made things much easier. (one is from the company I'm helping, needed because he is a mate and licenced to dispense propane). We have big 53' long reefer trailers on my barge deck and a 12,000 litre fuel truck and 9000 litre propane truck. These sit high and catch a lot of wind.

I'm at my controls on the top deck. It is raining and blowing in my eyes so hard I can hardly see. The folks at the Magee Creek logging camp got lights on to try and help. As I slow to try to make a landing the wind is then blowing me sideways at about 5 knots. I have to back away and swing at about three quarters power so I don't blow over and wreck the log booming ground. I have my portable phone and headset on and I'm talking to the guys in the camp. "This ain't working." No they say, we'll come out with our crew boat and guide you over to our new place where we are building road. It's in the lee out of the wind. I get my ramp down at the landing, we get shore lines made fast and finally about midnight I'm in my bunk, after starting that day at 04:00. Ain't life grand? -:)


Entered at Fri Nov 11 17:43:40 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

No thank you Peter! You're the MVP of this GB. You always know what to say.....and you post daily to keep this site going. Your blog.......Yup.....You're a writer whereas some of us are posters.....

Btw, It took going to an Ivy League School to appreciate my class background.....Liberal institutions and ideology reminded us that we were supposedly inferior because our parents worked in factories.....It was because of them some of us could attend University in the first place......and had the luxury to read and think and reflect and share.

Give my best to K..........Enjoy the grandkids......share your love of music and sense of fair play..........

Hope others who shared part of their life story.....always a gift to others.....Thank you......Perhaps others will also want to share their story too......and hopefully can also find ways to get a break from so much negativity in the world......You can find it.....peaking through every crack.......light trumps darkness.

I may be old
But I got to see all the cool bands


Entered at Fri Nov 11 17:22:13 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I mentioned Richard Condon recently - yes, the conspiracy theorists are well into Trump as Putin's Manchurian candidate. One admittedly right wing paper had a good number of Corbyn-Putin links too.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 17:20:35 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, John - missed the point and looked on amazon. No, iTunes UK doesn't have it - just the 2 CD Royal Albert Hall set out today. So it's iTunes that triggers the track info? When i've made CDRs of some vinyl LPs, iTunes has worked out the titles etc. I thought it was because it had all the track lengths stored and could work them out.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 17:19:36 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Last USA President

After reading an article by Bill Moyer this morning, it confirms a thought that I have had for a while, (watching this mockery of an election).

Recalling, December 26/1991, (the end of the USSR). There may be some who quietly think this and "parish the thought". Is this "President Elect", Putin's Manchurian candidate? Are we watching the separation of the red states from the blue?

This is why people are making the statement, "We are now history."


Entered at Fri Nov 11 16:23:54 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thank you for that post, BEG. It's good to know more about the people here. Both my grandfathers were very proud to be "skilled working class." That is, Marx's perfect proletariat. One was an engine driver. At 12 he left his rural poor background and got to the nearest railway station. He worked his way through from "lad" to porter to engine cleaner to fireman to driver. The other started as a coal miner, but got to be a crane operator in a steel mill.

My dad was a sales representative for a tyre manufacturer, having worked his way through the motor industry, so I guess the first middle-class one. He died when I was a few days past my 19th birthday, missing the England-Germany World Cup Final by just a few days. A silly thought, but it always comes in my mind as he took me to watch football every week. As the British education system worked, we had government grants all the way through university, tuition and accommodation. I got the full grant, £360 a year, because my mum was a widow, going back to work in a fashion shop. Actually, I was better off than most, because there was a basic grant (I think £240) and parents had to contribute according to income to bring it to £360, and most fell a little short. So, I was one of the first babies born on the National Health Service, went to a state grammar school and got a free university education, including postgrad. I guess it's why I expect to pay taxes.

In those days about 4% went to university. With it approaching 50% it's clearly no longer sustainable from the tax base, so we were an incredibly lucky lot of baby boomers.

My first job in the summer when I was 15 was "Goods Inwards" at a motor wholesalers. Mostly it was unloading trucks, not to bad except for when the oil drums arrived. That was £2 and 15 shillings a week. An LP record was £1 and 12 shillings. A 4 track EP record was a day's work at 10 / 6d. I did that for two summers, then I worked on the beach selling ice cream for two more and every weekend from Easter to late September too. That was the same wages, but much nicer. You had to carry a tray with dry ice, which was heavy, but you got to look at a lot of girls in bikinis.

There you go.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 16:07:08 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Life's Teachings

I can't imagine having to go through my life knowing the end my grand parents had to endure at the hands of mad men. It's something I can't dwell on.........the thoughts are painful.

I have worked hard all my life and continue to. This last trip was a difficult one. Heavy seas are very painful to my arthritic shoulders. The rewards are the relief on the faces of people in remote places when you show up with their supplies that they very much need.

What keeps me going is my Susan and my beautiful comfortable home, my children and grand children. The help of my satellite phone to hear my grand kids voices so far away some times are encouraging and comforting.

So "Teach Your Children Well".........


Entered at Fri Nov 11 15:54:52 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The 1966 Live recordings

Just now, amazon.co.uk had 5 left in stock at £138 … mine with the price guarantee was £108. No track information coming up - I've only had it 30 minutes.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 15:48:47 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Even Trump Jr......I heard one of his interviews where he said that if women couldn't handle the workplace......They should go and teach kindergarten or something! Really? He obviously hasn't been in a JK/SK class lately. The two years I taught this age group......totally exhausted by the end of the day......On the other hand......They mostly love you and go home and tell their parents all about you....every detail. From about grade three on.......Their peers become the ones they talk about and pay attention to.

Teach the gifted children
Teach them to have mercy
Teach them about sunsets
Teach them about moonrise
Teach them about anger
The sin that comes with dawning

Teach them about flowers
And the beauty of forgetfulness
Teach them of forgiveness
Teach them about mercy
Teach them about music
And the cool and cleansing waters

Louuuu Reed....Teach The Gifted Children

Many thanks to Jan Hoiberg. You allow some of us to share our lives and thoughts and feelings on your website. You can delete of course my too many ramblings here. As I think I've shared before.....The Band isn't my only favourite band.......but when I checked out the websites of my other favourites......This site was special.......totally interactive.....immediately.....Yes sometimes there was perceived misogyny, sexism and bullying.......The bullies here taught me to be tough and stand up for myself. Female bullying usually excludes others from a group. I learned from Robbie to take the high road at times........Just ignore and move on.

When they go low......we get high!

Michelle for first lady!


Entered at Fri Nov 11 15:37:18 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V Dylan 1966 Live Recordings

Peter; when you get your box set today, could you check to see if iTunes U.K. are selling the box. iTunes Canada doesn't have it for sale. That means; when I put a disc into my computer I have to fill in everything. I've done it for the first disc; but I think I will wait a few days to see if iTunes Canada are going to sell it. Too lazy to fill in everything times 36.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 15:36:28 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: It is to laugh

From the Times Colonist of Victoria, BC.

'He was back for another sold-out concert on March 6, 2013, where he deadpanned: “I go to the mirror, I look at my melancholy face. And I say to myself, ‘Lighten up, Cohen, for Christ’s Sake.’ ”


Entered at Fri Nov 11 15:14:30 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Unleashed

One summer as a teen, I built stone-filled roads for days on end in the hot sun, and learned that I never wanted to be forced to that kind of work again, though it has to be done and someone has to do it. I too went to school and learned first hand what it meant to work and sweat. I'm sure many of us here had the same experience one way or another.

Having an idea that swells into a movement has happened throughout history. The president-elect tapped into an idea and made it a movement. All who supported the idea and the movement said aloud or in their minds that they would forget what he was and what he had been and said (whether it was misogyny, an attack, physically or psychologically on women, racist, cheating in business, misrepresenting himself, hate, instability and egocentricity, the list can go on and on...) and vote for the idea and the movement. But they failed to see the potential consequences when a disturbed and deeply flawed leader with the credentials of hate and narcissism together in the mix attempts to lead. We can only hope that there will be reins and lassoes and some wise women and men who will control the unleashed terror. There are many now who are afraid in a way they have never been before.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 14:53:50 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

My brother and I lived with our Mom, paternal grandparents and great grandma (great grandma and dad passed the same year I was born), Dad's sister and other cousins. Although Pop had a restaurant before I was born and then a store (we lived on top of it and with other relatives until they could make their own way).....My dad had no choice....He wanted to continue being a soccer athlete but was told he had to work in the factory around the corner......When he passed....my mother worked in a textile factory. Bruce Springsteen understood what the life was like as his own dad lived it. I wonder how they would have voted.

Lesson....Include all and don't leave anyone behind or there will be no peace. Trump knows about TV (Obama understood social media and used it to his advantage) and all that it entails......Trump tapped into what some people were thinking and feeling but were afraid to express......and then he came along.

My older brother and I are very different people and yet he lived at home until he went out of town to attend University. I did five years later but a different city. He votes Liberal or Conservative depending on candidate. I've always voted third party NDP and will continue. Mom, Dad, Grandparents, many relatives....all left a country that had a civil war. When Mom came to Canada she never voted.....She became apolitical and trusted no one....She couldn't even talk to me about how relatives were fighting against each other, etc. I don't know how dad would have voted as he only lived for five years after he arrived in Canada. Grandpa voted Liberal federally and locally NDP as he knew the politician. Later in life he helped him out by just making a phone call. He had a small car accident but because of his age he would have to take the driver's written test again. Grandpa called the NDP politician and said look I can still drive well but the written test will be hard for me. It was taken care of.

After my Aunt's big operation and two deaths all in one/two years and no insurance we lost everything.......We quickly became proletarianized but.....Mom always stressed education.......When you grow up mostly working class.....It's your only hope to not have to work in the factory like your parents or work 24/7 in a restaurant or store. One other experience that kept me in school when it was very difficult financially as I put myself through six years......One summer job was working in a factory. One month in the office and one month on the assembly line. Thanks for Bob Marley's music in my head or I would have lost my ffffffff mind!

I would never have flirted with the idea of supporting Trump......but......I do get why some did. :-((((((


Entered at Fri Nov 11 14:46:11 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Apathy

And Jeff (and anyone else who is listening); what upsets me as much as everything you said is the apathy of those who stayed home (maybe because they thought it was in the bag for HC or maybe because the lines were too long or maybe because they were perplexed or who knows why).

Apathy and ennui are the enemy of free thinking and democracy. Again and again we learn. Your lesson is on the mark. There are others. History teaches. We don't learn.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 14:42:54 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: 'The horror'

Jeff: 'The horror. The horror'.

Lyrics abound (Don Henley)

'This is the end of the innocence

O' beautiful, for spacious skies

But now those skies are threatening

They're beating plowshares into swords

For this tired old man that we elected king

Armchair warriors often fail

And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales

The lawyers clean up all details'



Entered at Fri Nov 11 14:31:35 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jerry, the fact that there are so many racists in this county is no surprise to me. I knew it. I am disappointed that there are so many people fucking stupid enough to risk our liberties because they refused to vote for Hillary. The idea that Trump winning would bring things to a head and the country can crumble and start over, and other totally stoopid & unrealistic ideas, that they voted their conscience by not voting or voting for Johnson or Stein, is just fucking absurd. While i didn't think Trump could win, i was concerned. Around 5 PM election day, maybe 5:30, i began to get a sinking feeling. I was on my way out the door to a killer show, 8 PM set by a old friend / collaborator & her killer band, and on MSNBC Chuck Todd or Steve Cornycki talked about a alternate path to victory for Trump, and i looked at the states, and got a real bad feeling. .......

Similarly, you'd be amazed how many Jewish friends or of mine or Jewish people i know voted for Trump. How many women i know who voted for Trump, Jewish & non Jewish. The part of Brooklyn i live in was predominantly for Trump. It's fuckign mind boggling.

The lesson is how many people are total fucking morons.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 14:27:48 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: 'That's about it for me'

'That's about it for me'.

He always knew how to turn a phrase.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 13:58:11 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: To make the point even more

It was indeed a 'silent' roar. It remained silent though we were warned by seemingly loud and brash supporters (on CNN, at least). They said women would come out in large numbers and vote for him. They said Hispanics would come out in large numbers and vote for him. They said people did not want to talk about this but they would be there when the time was right. I didn't believe it. I couldn't believe that common sense would not prevail. Yes. Like the events of another time in another place, a demagogue with a singular message that was appealing to those in need (of something more than what they had) won out over common sense and stability. There must be a lesson there. there should always be a lesson. I'm not sure what it is.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 13:44:25 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: One more thought...

From Paul Simon;

"Memory brushes the same years

Silently sharing the same fear.'


Entered at Fri Nov 11 13:33:38 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Grand

One of the things I lost out on in life was having grandparents. I had none and never even thought about what that was until I became one. (They were lost in the war in the gas chambers.). Of course, I heard and even read about my father's parents (the latter from a memoir that my uncle wrote). I am away but when I get to my second city where my grandchildren are, I so much love to be with them. So I read here how our friends dote and care and love in that unique way. Keep on. Its part of what its all about.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 13:12:41 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Lost

Galvanizing and electrifying with an idea that was central, focused and ultimately blinding: yes: one candidate had one while the other did not. Rational thinking is 'trumped' by electrification and common sense is lost in the mire.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 12:41:47 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

J

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Field Commander Leonard Cohen

Lucretia and I carry Leonard Cohen in our hearts. He was there before we met. He was there when we met. We have had the fortune to see him perform on many occasions. We invited him to visit with us and stay with us when he came to our city to perform in the past few years. Alas, it did not happen. When I saw the news, I cried out 'Oh no!' and tears welled as if I had lost a brother. His words endure and live in my brain. They are a large part of the soundtrack of our lives. The voice was the voice of understanding the world he lived in and its loves and hates and all that accompanied those emotions. He embraced spirituality while grasping the worldly and simultaneously fused them together as one entity. He made our world a better place. I won't let him leave me.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 12:32:09 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Louuuuu inducts Leonard Cohen into the RRHOF.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 11:53:56 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Dunc, so true! How did they fit in looking after their own kids? Answer, as we know, they farmed it out. Yesterday afternoon … sudden call to collect grandkids from the school bus. Get there 10 minutes early as anxious grandparents do. First bus on time, second bus? Thirty minutes late due to road closures because of a gas leak. That "quick collect from the bus stop down the road" was 70 minutes.

It is a generation thing. My kids saw very little of their grandparents. When I was a kid I saw the English ones very rarely, and the Welsh ones every 2 or 3 years. Wherever I go in the day, there are people my age with pre-school kids. Yes, it keeps you young. Yes, I think we have a privilege and a joy that our parents and grandparents missed out on, but it is very time-consuming!

Four grandkids for dinner tonight.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 10:56:36 CET 2016 from (31.48.6.187)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Age shall not wither

Peter is right. Leonard looked so cool when I saw him when he was in his late seventies. He decided to wear suits all the time and his choice of hat was really great.

But his choice of musicians was great and you could hear every word he sang. Backing singers were great too, adding a lot to the show.

And outstanding, moving, thought provoking songs - one after another - and this band in a groove, punctuated with moments of outstanding musicianship.

And speaking to the audience with humour between songs.

I'll really miss Leonard. I saw him in Glasgow, but if you've not got the Live In London album, buy it.

I read an article in one of my daughter's fashion magazines, (my daughter once managed one of Glasgow's fashion shops), the crux of which was nothing ages an old person as much as old clothes. So chuck out the worn, old shit and look cool if you can afford it.

I thought about Trump's and Clinton's ages too. How do they fit in the babysitting of the grandkids. I never saw either of them say, 'I'll need to finish this speech, nursery is out in twenty minutes.'


Entered at Fri Nov 11 10:46:20 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: So Long Marianne:

That letter in july from Leonard to Marianne on her deathbed(link is to my blog which has links to the Toppermost article with JT and four concert reviews):

LEONARD COHEN:

Well Marianne it’s come to this time when we are really so old and our bodies are falling apart and I think I will follow you very soon.

Know that I am so close behind you that if you stretch out your hand, I think you can reach mine. And you know that I’ve always loved you for your beauty and your wisdom, but I don’t need to say anything more about that because you know all about that.

But now, I just want to wish you a very good journey. Goodbye old friend. Endless love, see you down the road.”


Entered at Fri Nov 11 09:40:09 CET 2016 from (114.75.202.146)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I am not so sad about Leonard Cohen dying. He had a good innings. Better to die when you still have some quality of life and dignity than to just go on. Having said that, however, what will we all do when Bob goes?


Entered at Fri Nov 11 09:27:53 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Age shall not wither … but it does (unless you're Leonard)

Obama elected at 47, JFK at 43, David Cameron at 44, Tony Blair at 44, Bill Clinton at 47, Harold Wilson at 48, Angela Merkel at 51, FDR at 51, Jimmy Carter at 52.

I’m not asking whether you like them, or whether they were any good in office. But all had impact at elections. Do we see a pattern here compared to Hilary at 68 and Trump at 70? They are my generation.

A lot of us here are around that too. I am amazed at the energy both have with all that travel and barnstorming, and unlike me they don’t have to do their own typing. But I reckon I was at my professional peak between forty and fifty. I reckon I wrote my best textbook in my late fifties, but that’s not a high energy job … and it never sold as well as my late 20s/early 30s, or late 30s / early 40s work.

I sometimes envy those ten years older than me who had PAs s and secretaries and could sit back and merely dispense wisdom (and have other people remember the facts). I was already in the generation where you typed it yourself.

I think both Hilary and Fart (Trump) were too old to electrify a whole nation. What Trump electrified was those who were old and white and male. You have to know when it’s time to pass on the baton.

The Electoral College … constitutionally correct, but when that was set up was before the age of media. It matches with Brexit in many ways. We elect representatives to parliament, NOT delegates. Therefore representatives are not bound to vote according to the popular wishes of those who voted for them. It’s the argument on why Brexit should be voted on in parliament and yes, it should. The Electoral College was developed with the same idea that you elected the good, honest people who would then decide … in the early 19th century, pre-railway, pre-telegraph, how long did it take for messages to flow from say Georgia to Massachusetts? Or from either to Washington DC? The electors had to act on their own. But while most, but not all, are technically “representative” the media storm if they failed to be “delegates” would be huge.

Where was the Murdoch press in America on Trump? I thought he had a soft ride in the Murdoch papers here.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 09:19:46 CET 2016 from (197.210.45.201)

Posted by:

shell

Location: canada

Subject: Dr.Ogude

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Entered at Fri Nov 11 08:58:40 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Leonard Cohen

I am too numbed to think. One of the triumvirate of North America's three unmatchable songwriters with Bob Dylan and Paul Simon. Leonard made being old look good on his last tours. He had so much spirit, so much energy, so much genuine SOUL that I kind of thought he'd go on forever.

I know he was 82, but the loss is so huge … RIP.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 08:14:21 CET 2016 from (210.86.82.198)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

You're sort of right Wallsend. The reason why people voted it down wasn't too different from what happened with Trump and Brexit. Voting against the status quo / ruling elite - though a little more benign.

this article has me worried though.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 07:53:38 CET 2016 from (114.75.202.146)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Rod, I thought New Zealand came pretty close to civil war with that vote on the flag.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 07:06:04 CET 2016 from (210.86.82.198)

Posted by:

Rod

I think America will survive this. There is too much history and still enough people who care. It's an international phenomenon and we're lucky out here that we are 5 years behind the rest of the world and can hopefully learn from what happens elsewhere and not end up with a Brexit or Trump scenario. But we are small and insignificant and still at the mercy of the world.

I don't have a bucket list but in less than two weeks I'll get to meet Garth Hudson and John Simon. Something I never thought would happen.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 07:01:50 CET 2016 from (65.92.193.4)

Posted by:

Bill M

Difficult to read, difficult to think about, difficult to disagree with.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 06:58:18 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Electoral CollegeVotes Dec 19th. Longshot. Norm, if this annoys you, tough shit

As long a shot as it is, it's no longer a shot than Donald winning on on Election Day was. Apparently the Electoral College Voters can cast any vote they feel justified in voting and can vote Hillary in on Dec 19th. Anyone living in the U.S, who wants to make a last ditch effort to influence that,& send Donald packing, can sign this. Is it realistic? I dunno. Transfer of power plans begun. But if Donald 's fraud case does begin, & if he does any really crazy things before this, there is this last stop loss that might get used. It really should be used.So signing it is worthwhile.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 05:05:41 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Important Bill Moyers article


Entered at Fri Nov 11 03:52:10 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Leonard Cohen.......Susanne

Always a humble man, listen to Leonard's words about this song. Without malice, he speaks softly as he always did.

Leonard taught us much about humanity, from a race of people who understood it more than many. He enriched our lives with his mind and what he produced from it.

I feel enriched that I lived in a time that I had the good fortune to hear, and see, and appreciate it. Thanks to his son for that last effort. It must be hard for that young man, but what a legacy!


Entered at Fri Nov 11 03:44:30 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Leonard Cohen

In October 2016, he released You Want It Darker, produced by his son Adam. Severe back issues made it difficult for Cohen to leave his home, so Adam placed a microphone on his dining room table and recorded him on a laptop. The album was met with rave reviews, though a New Yorker article timed to its release revealed that he was in very poor health. "I am ready to die," he said. "I hope it’s not too uncomfortable. That’s about it for me."

RIP


Entered at Fri Nov 11 03:37:56 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Leonard Cohen

Oh no! Tears.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 03:02:26 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I was just feeeelin' good Jed.......and then I saw your post.......

For Leonard Cohen......Candles and Jeff Buckley's cover of Leonard's - Hallelujah (Official Video)

Good night all.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 02:59:05 CET 2016 from (24.222.133.112)

Posted by:

joe j

I believe that Leonard has left us.


Entered at Fri Nov 11 02:48:47 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Get Up Stand Up

Never Give Up The Fight

Get Up Stand Up | Playing For Change | Song Around The World

Wow....Now I see that Keb Mo and Keith Richards are here.....who I also saw at Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival......Two places in Jamaica are shown that I visited....Ocho Rios and Kingston.....I just feel so much better groovin' to music that washes over you like honey and sunlight. I don't even need nitrous.....lol


Entered at Fri Nov 11 02:49:03 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: RIP Leonard Cohen


Entered at Thu Nov 10 23:59:36 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Frederick "Toots" Hibbert from Toots and The Maytals himself....and Roberto Luti from Italy and Taj Mahal....who I saw at Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival.

Reggae Got Soul | (Marcia Griffiths from Bob Marley's I-Threes on original) Playing For Change | Song Around The World

Reggae is listed in the dictionary as:[11] reggae [reg-ey] (noun) - a style of Jamaican popular music blending blues, calypso, and rock-'n'-roll, characterized by a strong syncopated rhythm and lyrics of social protest. Origin of reggae: Jamaican English, respelling of reggay (introduced in the song “Do the Reggay” (1968) by Frederick “Toots” Hibbert)[11]


Entered at Thu Nov 10 23:44:17 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Spiritual Healing....


Entered at Thu Nov 10 23:39:47 CET 2016 from (208.181.205.134)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Good The Bad & The UGLY!

I just got back from 16 days at sea. After that US tug, "Nathan E Stewart sinking and causing all the barges in the central coast to clean up the mess, I had to get freight and fuel to many customers in the area. I made 18 stops. We had "extreme" weather.

I got back to Port Hardy two days ago. Couldn't get home because the road was flooded. Stayed in a hotel in Port Hardy two days. Just got home a few hours ago. "How highs the water momma?"

I been sitting here doing some necessary paper work and took a look in here. Now with "respect" to all of you, I'm fucking sick of hearing about Donald gawd damn Trump....what a piss ant.

Please take a minute to listen to this sweet young lady, Jessica Rhaye sing, "Four Strong Winds". Her backing fellows are pretty smooth too. It's relaxing me.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 23:08:30 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The first time I became aware of Elizabeth Warren....

The case for, and against, Elizabeth Warren as Clinton's running mate

Even in my yoga class today, the instructor began the class by being mindful of many people who are probably experiencing various emotions due to the American election. At the end of the class she shared a very short poem that ended with......

Peace will be present when all are included in the tribe.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 22:54:46 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

This of you who get MSNBC, Elizabeth Warren will be a guest on The Rachel Maddow Show tonight. It airs 9 PM Eastern time, but repeats 4 or 5 times.

Just for the record, most NYC dwellers, even those who voted for him, have always considered Trump a fucking lowlife. There's two types of NYC natives, those who play & fight clean & those who play & fight dirty, and are always looking for any kind of dirty way to come out on top. A good portion of the former know how to deal with the latter. Trump falls in the dirty category, but don't forget he was born with an edge. Trumps the kind of guy who if he wasn't born with the silver spoon, if he somehow managed to develop the same personality traits he has, he could not have kept a janitors job here in NYC.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 22:27:22 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Oops.....This page includes.....
"Hear Bob Dylan perform "Tell Me, Momma" at a 1966 London concert, which will be released in full as part of a new box set."
Click on Vevo.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 22:08:14 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Dylan Live In 1966: Huge Box Set Due November 11

Extraordinary bounty features Dylan and The Band at their cutting, controversial best.

Options include 36-CD motherlode and 2CD The Real Albert Hall Concert set.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 21:48:10 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Elizabeth Warren Rallies 'Nasty Women' To Vote For Clinton

"The media takes Trump literally, not seriously.
Trump's supporters take him seriously, not literally."


Entered at Thu Nov 10 20:58:11 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bill asked about Elizabeth Warren. She just released a statement i've not found on the internet, it was on the news. It's scathing. I never understood why she didn't run, she'd have beat both Bernie and Hillary in the primary...but i think she felt the need to stay in The Senate.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 19:55:36 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Far left liberals are bigger cry babies than far right wingers. Most of the far left stayed home or voted third party. . And many plain old democrats stayed home. The far right, even though Trump really isn't their candidate, came out in droves.

The media is largely complicit too. Trump spent practically zip compared to Hillary.

JT, i believe the rape case git dropped after Trump won. And i bet that Trump University case disappears somehow.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 19:41:46 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Bob-'66

Listening now-magnificent.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 18:36:19 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Simpsons & Trump

See the front page of today's "The Sun" - it shows The Simpson's frame from 16 years ago with "President Trump."


Entered at Thu Nov 10 18:11:22 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dylan 66

Mine is due tomorrow. It was the same with the 65 … no info in iTunes. Does it arrive later? I assumed it was coded in on new CDs.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 17:42:38 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Liberal Support

JT, good points. I have a friend who was a huge Bernie supporter and volunteer. I know he went the Susan Sarandon way and didn't vote for Hillary. We were arguing about it election morning. This guy is retired from one of the phone companies with a pension. His wife has a good job. The happiest I've ever seen him was during the Wall Street demonstrations a few years ago. He'd take the train down in the morning, smoke a joint and bang a protest drum all day. He can't wait to hit the streets now. I think a lot of liberals felt that way. "You say you want a revolution...."


Entered at Thu Nov 10 17:35:39 CET 2016 from (174.88.217.37)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

On the whole, I agree, JT.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 17:20:57 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Its never one thing

Mike: I take seriously what you say. However, it is undeniable that the media has a role to play in how information is disseminated (especially the TV media/as you say, newspapers not so important comparatively). Impressions: old indiscretions and current crimes, as I noted. The president elect has major issues NOW: he is going to court to deal with charges regarding his university and he has civil issues. Where were they in the past week as the FBI issue was front and centre. Not only the media, clearly, Mike, but still an important factor (combined with the lack of supporting votes by too many liberals (when that support mattered). Of course, its never one thing.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 17:05:43 CET 2016 from (174.88.217.37)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Media bashing

Sure, JT, let's all jump on the media. Always a popular reaction. But be reminded that fewer people read newspapers these days and that broadcast news coverage (and some print organs) can be selective and slanted (e.g., Fox). Besides, it doesn't really matter. Trump supporters were less inclined to be affected by his indiscretions and more focused on any dirt dished out against Clinton. In other words, it didn't seem to matter to them what the media was reporting. As far as I could tell, the mainstream news media was doing its job. And did it well, IMHO.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 17:02:09 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Just tried to put the discs into iTunes; but this box set is so new there is no information; from iTunes; when you put in the disc. Lots of writing in the different headings.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 16:41:38 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Dylan Hawks Box

Just to mention that I have never had an amazon package delivered; with such care. Large box. Open it to another Smaller box containing the discs. Lots of paper in the big box and the actual box containing the discs were wrapped in bubble wrap. Let's hope everything is OK.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 16:37:19 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bob Dylan The 1966 Live Recordings

Well. It's going on 10:30 in the morning here and my Dylan Box Set just arrived. Wasn't supposed to come until tomorrow.

Thought I would share with you a few of the "notes" in the booklet regarding the sound of the discs. First a note about the sequencing. It reads that "The shows are presented in chronological order, with the exception of those recordings in which the audio quality is so degraded that the sound detracts from the overall listening experience.

These Five shows are White Plains, Pittsburgh, Hempstead, Melbourne and Stockholm. They are present at the very end of the collection." In other words Discs 32-36.

The tour began on February 4th 1966. It wasn't until May 1st, that Dylan's sound engineer Richard Anderson; recorded large parts of every show. It was taken directly from the mixing board. There's much more to read; but it states that Columbia Records recorded 4 shows. Sheffield, Manchester and two in London. They mention that "live recordings" were very knew to the Columbia engineers at the time. They spend an entire page of the booklet describing the sound from very good to the above mentioned 5 shows that are apparently really bad. Anyway time for a listen.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 16:16:01 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Media

The perception (fuelled to a great degree by the media) that the 'indiscretions' of one candidate were in the past while the 'crimes' of the other candidate were current went a long way to discrediting and buoying the mistrust for the loser. The public is gullible to the machinations and impressions given by the media. Where were the stories about the university and the Chinese steel and the failure to pay workers and the foreign exportation of work and tax reports not exposed in the few days before the election (while the FBI and e-mails and the foundation were front and centre). The media has a lot to answer for (not to mention all the 'free exposure' of the candidates rallies... ah, the sales of advertising wins an election.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 16:00:34 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.59)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Roger, Michelle Obama is a powerful force. However, Senator Warren has extensive political experience & accomplishments, , & far superior knowledge to most politicians. And sides with the average slob. Other than that last attribute, she's non controversial.When it comes to selecting a President, she's hard to beat.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 15:55:25 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: An American Tragedy

I was mistaken in the belief that it was liberal democrats who knew and understood the meaning and importance of voting in a free election. Despite the pleas of the president and the first lady to come out and vote, too many stayed home while the supporters of 'drain the swamp' came out to vote. And so it went; they didn't win the election so much as the stay-at-home people lost it. As Mr. Obama said so clearly and so many others noted- a few votes in each precinct will make the difference; the few extra that the winning candidate got coupled with those the loser didn't get because her 'supporters (and I now use the term loosely) stayed home and wouldn't put their collective money where there mouth was, resulted in the victory. Truly,as the New Yorker article noted (thank you Jeff), an American tragedy.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 15:26:48 CET 2016 from (24.114.64.214)

Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend: you seem to be timing your dive into "Testimony" and 1966 so that you'll be coming up for air just in time to witness the 2020 US election. Call it the "Coming Home to Roost" tour.

Peter V: They certainly will, now that you've blabbed.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 13:18:42 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: nuclear codes

It's highly possible that 2580 would set it off. A delivery driver told me that many, many entry codes are set to open gates and doors on 2580 because that's the default "engineer code" when it comes from the manufacturer … i.e. straight down the middle, and used for maintenance engineers. We were staying at an apartment hotel with an entry code last year … they gave me a slip of paper with it on, and when I took it out, yes, it was 2580. If it's a building with many users, I was told, 2016 (whatever is the current year) was the second choice. Amazing how often it works. I suspect burglars know this.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 13:01:08 CET 2016 from (86.31.229.95)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Why we should have an interest...

Beyond all else (and there's plenty - globalisation, effects on international finance, trade deals etc), everyone in the world has a legitimate interest in who has their finger on the nuclear button, whichever nation. Over there in the States, you probably won't know this, but sentimental UK politicians talk about the 'special relationship' between the UK and the US. I've never believed there was one and wouldn't want one anyway. Or at least no more special than I'd want with any country. I do believe that NATO has done some good however, and that's a special relationship between much of the west of Europe and the US which Trump glibly spoke of ending. Eisenhower must have turned in his grave.

Someone said we should keep the nuclear code from Trump - just tell him it's 1234.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 12:14:51 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Another thing that surprises me, and all credit to the BBC's very clear explanations, is the knowledge everyone I speak to has of the US Electoral system. I did American Studies for my first degree with a large element on the US political system, but I find most people know just as much as I do. The BBC and serious papers here have been explaining it all so clearly for weeks.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 12:10:39 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Roger, Mrs V said exactly the same … if you're putting up a presidential spouse, there would be no one better than Michelle Obama.

What was quite horrifying on Radio 4 this morning was that it seems Jeremy Corbyn (leader of Labour) admires Trump's demagogue "rip it all down" pose. His spokeswoman was saying he agrees on infrastructure and trade barriers. It's "only" immigration where he differs. Mind you, some class Corbyn as an anti-Semite.

I'm sure our American readers must wonder why we non-Americans are so worked up about it, and what business it is of ours. I had the dentist and hygienist this morning. What with the waiting room as well, I had three conversations on Trump this morning, none of which I initiated, and all felt the same as me.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 11:53:27 CET 2016 from (86.31.229.95)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Europe

Subject: Can't get Used To Losing...

I'm with you all, Dunc, Jeff, Peter, Bob and all. I couldn't believe it. As Rod says - it's all been said. This, coming on top of our foolish move to leave the European Union makes 2016 a doubly bad year. I've heard so many times from folk who say it's a protest because Westminster or Washington never listen to them - but then they never vote. Socrates, via Plato, said democracy leads to tyranny. We're on the way.

The hope must be that, like those who led and lied through the Brexit affair, Trump will find life's not as simple as it seemed when standing on a platform spouting the rubbish of "I'm going to build a big beautiful wall".

Jeff - Bernie's brother is deputy leader of the Green Party over here and recently stood in the by-election to replace, er, oh what's his name... David Cameron, that's it. Elizabeth Warren - yes, but what about Michelle Obama. Her speeches were inspirational - so good that someone as astute as Trump's wife felt them worth stealing. Whenever the Obamas have been over here, Michelle has visited schools in London talking particularly to girls about the value of high aspirations. She'd get my vote.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 10:01:27 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Just curious

Prior to the election Donald Trump kept rattling on about a rigged election if he didn't win. Does that line of thought apply to him winning it? ; )


Entered at Thu Nov 10 09:36:50 CET 2016 from (114.75.205.106)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I recall a time, not so many years ago, when right-wing people were all in favour of globalisation. Of course, back then it just meant first world companies exploiting third world labour. Looks like the chickens are coming home to roost.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 09:28:14 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Rod, news this morning is that New Zealand, like Canada, is being flooded with immigration enquiries. We still have not got over our post-Brexit "this is no longer my country" feeling in our house at least.

What's so funny is Teresa May jets off to India to do a big new trade deal … but it's conditional on us allowing more immigration. Basically, all poorer countries will make the same request. Probably Japan is the only place that won't.

I've spent a lot of time in care homes and hospitals the last couple of months. If you took away our hard-working Polish, Hungarian, Rumanian, Spanish immigrants, we would not have a health service or any elderly care. They also fit in quickly culturally.

Similarly, if Trump stops Mexicans coming into the USA, there are going to be a lot of unwatered gardens,unvacuumed homes and waiterless restaurants.

The striking thing looking at the US results breakdown is the similarity to Brexit. White, elderly and late middle-aged people voted for Trump. Non-white, and overwhelmingly younger voters were for Clinton. Males voted for Trump. It's a victory for old, white men who don't like foreigners, just as here, but I sense a Pyrrhic victory for my own generation. We've got a disproportionate amount of the wealth in society and now in both Britain and the USA a disproportionate amount of the power. Give it ten years, and I suspect those of us still here will feel the backlash. Against our whitelash.

Note that Hilary actually got a larger number of votes.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 08:14:33 CET 2016 from (210.86.82.198)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Trump

I think it's all been said. Still can't believe it. One way or another I really can't see him surviving a term though.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 07:36:43 CET 2016 from (114.75.205.106)

Posted by:

Wallsend

I have really liked the few quotes I have seen from Robbie's book so far. He has a unique perspective. My plan is to get the book and the 1966 box set and just block out the world for the next four years and a bit. I wonder what will happen when the idiots that voted for Trump discover that he cannot bring back working class low skilled jobs. Still, building the wall should soak up a bit of manpower. I wonder if he will use Chinese steel like he did with his other buildings.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 07:00:49 CET 2016 from (24.114.73.52)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you, Fred. A very good review in the New York Times.....and 500 pages ! ....not the 300 odd that had been mentioned......I'm actually more interested in 1976-2011 but that's likely just me.............only positive of the Trump win is that it might lighten the Robertson haters in the "comments" sections of magazines and newspapers - as their likely all too giddy over what just happenned in the presidential election.

Jeff's link : New Yorker Magazine "An American Tragedy" got it almost exactly right.......more emphasis on the fact that the FBI decided the election would have been welcome. An amazing thing that such a development can go so under reported.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 05:55:41 CET 2016 from (173.3.48.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Elizabeth Warren would have won the primary & the election if she had run. She was the best choice, & did not have Bernie's Jewishness or former minimal Socialist party associations to overcome in a general election.


Entered at Thu Nov 10 05:40:09 CET 2016 from (64.229.12.156)

Posted by:

Bill M

As of yesterday, Hilary Clinton's out of presidential politics, and you can be pretty sure that Bernie Sanders is out of the game too. So who does tomorrow bring? The Clinton's VP guy sounded pretty solid in introducing her this morning, but I think his party will be looking for someone more stirring next time. Who is this Elizabeth Warren who I heard referred to as part of the Sanders-Warren wing?


Entered at Wed Nov 9 23:44:15 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Subject: Bernie

Bernie, has nothing to do with Hillary losing. His responsibility was to his supporters and the people who worked their butts off for him. He then in turn worked his butt off for Hillary. She lost because every racist person in America went out and voted for Trump and because of her own less then perfect past. Bernie was a way better candidate and an honorable man in a den of thieves. The only person out of the entire pack that doesn't make me want to throw up.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 22:25:48 CET 2016 from (173.3.48.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: The New Yorker: The 2016 Presidential Election. An American Tragedy.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 22:14:43 CET 2016 from (173.3.48.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ragtime, i agree with you and voiced that opinion daily back then. Many people felt otherwise, many people felt Bernie could win. Maybe he could have. Maybe many of the people that voted for Trump would have voted for Bernie. But look at how Trump brought out the racist vote. The people that voted against Hillary, and for anti black and other anti minority sentiment, may have come out in bigger numbers to vote against a Jew and as Trump would present him, a Socialist or Communist.

Many are attributing Trumps win to the working clAss vote and saying it would have gone to Bernie.But i don't know. It's just as easy to believe bernie is a socialist and vote against him cause of that and that he's a Jew, as it is to believe Trump is not a racist &rapist, not a fraud & crook, not a psychopath & doesn't want to be a dictator, & then vote against hillary.

It's all academic cause Trump has been crowned. The fact that Obama was not able to get a Suprme Court Justice appointed has always been in the back of my mind and had my hackles up. That was a kind of precursor for me. It never felt right. TO me it made me wonder if the fix was in for somehow. Of course, it could have been just in case a Republican won.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 21:55:32 CET 2016 from (83.68.10.60)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Bernie may be a decent man compared to the rudeness and vulgarity of Potus elect, but he helped this man into the White House by going on endlessly when he should have realised that his candidacy had become hopeless.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 21:49:29 CET 2016 from (173.3.48.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

The possibility for implosion here - when there are incidents of minorities being attacked, or somehow abused, & there are government reactions & public reactions...........under Trump things can quickly escalate in a way they never have. And though the things are very separate, Isis, Putin, Korea, even China, are salivating.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 21:40:37 CET 2016 from (173.3.48.249)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete is right.In many ways I loved Bernie & didn't vote for him in the primary. Because of the fact that on some critical issues, such as foreign policy, I didn't think he could get over personal quirks & wasn't sure he could grow into the office. Trump, growing into the office? Impossible.Get ready for the end of the world folks. This is when Korea or Russia makes their move. Or get ready to learn Russian.

Most people that voted for Trump, voted for him. They did not vote for the Republican party. What's amazing is they validated his behavior, & either approve who he really is or don't understand who he really is.

I have a female relative who went to see Andrew Dice Clay perform, & didn't think he was an offensive ass. I thought he was. My relative also voted for Trump.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 20:53:14 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Jed sad "The President,Hillary,Donald Trump-they have all spoken humbly,with dignity,maturity and unity.It's inspiring."

No, they haven't. No, it isn't. Watch the eyes. All this Hail to the Chief / He will grow into the office crap is a fantasy mix of wishful thinking / and a knee-jerk reaction. The guy is a Putin crony. A racist. A misogynist.

Has there ever been such vulgarity as these gold hotels? Look forward to the gold-plated ex-White House "Gold House" and the gilded Lincoln Memorial. It is coming your way.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 19:11:45 CET 2016 from (24.114.50.22)

Posted by:

Bill M

JQ: Your metaphor is not totally accurate, as Baby Huey always wore a diaper.

Note to Liberals: Hang out in secondhand records stores if you wish to avoid being called wankers. (Actually, this seems counterintuitive, so maybe it's a British thing like driving on the left.)


Entered at Wed Nov 9 18:28:54 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

At a tangent … I’m sure it’s the same in the USA (and everywhere in the world). When politics split regionally, you know full well where government investment will go. We had a speaking tour in Hungary a decade ago, and we couldn’t understand how some towns were reached by splendid new motorways, where others of a similar size were reached by potholed single track roads. It was explained that it was based on which towns voted for the government.

It happened here … Thatcher being the main example, though the Blair years were similar. You’d drive along a dark motorway at night to the Welsh border, and as soon as you crossed into the Labour stronghold, the motorway was lit all night. Cardiff was a massive building site, while in Poole there weren’t (and aren’t) enough primary school places for kids. My grandkids, a year apart in age, were offered schools in opposite directions, each a four mile journey, because all the local schools were full. The Conservatives got in, and we finally got our desperately needed second harbour bridge.

All governments do it.

So does anyone see Federal projects pouring onto the West Coast USA or the North-East?


Entered at Wed Nov 9 18:28:44 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Unity

In words,at least.The President,Hillary,Donald Trump-they have all spoken humbly,with dignity,maturity and unity.It's inspiring.Nice if it could last.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 18:18:01 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Get Out Of Jail Free

Dunc, we do have a major advantage in the UK. If the Remainers play their cards right, Teresa May will have to call an election to ratify whatever deals she plans with the EU. Similarly, if the judges force her to ratify Brexit in parliament … which after all is the law … she’ll have to call an election. We have a “Get out of jail” card and don’t have to wait until 2020. The USA doesn’t It’s stuck now for four long years.

On the radio, Vince Cable, a Liberal Democrat, suggested we should use by-elections to voice our opinion on Brexit by voting Liberal Democrat. I left Labour with Shirley Williams and David Owen when they formed the Social Democrats, who combined with the Liberals. I learned quickly that most Liberals were wankers with insufficient social skills or sense to make it in either Conservative or Labour parties, with Vince Cable being a prime example. Nevertheless, if we were blessed with a by-election tomorrow in Poole, I’d follow him and vote Liberal. This is enhanced by seeing our local Liberal councillor often in second hand vinyl shops.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 17:26:09 CET 2016 from (31.48.0.156)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Commisserations

Commissserations my fellow American GBers, but we can't be too smug over here.

Our most successful politician lately has been Nigel Farage. Odious. Very clever - he used the EU to fund his campaign to take us out of Europe.

We have just had the worst prime minister, David Cameron, who risked the future of the country by having a referendum to placate a wing of the Conservative party pushed along by Farage's UKIP.

Michael Gove and Boris Johnson were interested only in their own careers and Johnson has done well out of Brexit.

Then David Davis and Liam Fox, both wannabe PMs but both in the wilderness, gambled and are at the front of politics again because of Brexit.

Theresa May was a remainer. But you wouldn't know. She kept a low profile during the debate, knowing if Cameron lost she would be able to step into the PM role easily. She was always going to become leader.

And Jeremy Corbyn and Labour - remainers. What a joke! Never heard from them during the debate. This is the worst opposition in my living memory. And I have been Labour all my life. A government ripe for criticism and there is no opposition.

But I can see how Donald and Brexit has happened. Quite clearly.

Who now thinks of the brave young man who stood in front of the tanks in China? He was probably killed, but we are not sure.

As I sit here in my Chinese made trousers (designed in UK!) watching a granddaughter use her Chinese made calculator to do her maths, while her much younger cousin plays with his Chinese made toys, I think what have we done with our manufacturing industry and the jobs.

I could go on, .but I would need a couple of pages.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 16:57:09 CET 2016 from (107.77.97.26)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Canada??

PV - Unfortunately there's no place on earth where one will be able to escape this lumbering Baby Huey known as Trump's America-


Entered at Wed Nov 9 16:04:53 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Be careful what you ask for

There is bad decision-making and poor judgement and sometimes even bad acts and then there is evil in the heart and the character which leads often to destructive and mean behaviour that hurts and may be dangerous. When we choose, each of us who choose have to decide which is the lesser of the problems. It seems that a lot of people choose to ignore evil in the heart and character in order to maybe achieve something different for themselves, disregarding the evil. They don't like what they have. But be careful what you ask for. You just might get it. And what you get is worse than what you started with.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 15:43:50 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

I've never voted for a republican and I certainly didn't vote for this one. However, Hillary was the wrong candidate. To much history, to much baggage that she never really explained. Between her and Bill they accumulated a great deal of money for people who've spent their careers in public office. Every debate, every speech she went over her career accomplishments and after awhile they really started to sound weak for 30+ years of public service. The republicans went with the wild card who was able to get all the racists and woman haters out to vote. Dylan said something once about America being built on slavery, that never changes. Dark day in American history.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 14:57:02 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: No plan

"You say you got a real solution

Well, you know

We'd all love to see the plan"


Entered at Wed Nov 9 14:27:52 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

BBC News … Canadian immigration website has crashed. I thought it a joke, but apparently not!


Entered at Wed Nov 9 14:23:21 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

OK, there was a letter in the paper last week (Daily Mail). The person wrote “I voted for Brexit. But I did not vote for a fall in the value of the pound, and rising prices.” OK, too dumb to tie up the consequences.

Trump kept up that comparison with Brexit. It’s very similar stuff. A lot of people did not vote for a fall in the value of the dollar, and because of trade barriers, higher prices, but that’s what will happen. Bad news for the sweatshops making trainers in South-East Asia. But then everyone is going to have to pay the new higher prices. Maybe that's a good bit, who knows?

The two movements are the same in many ways, and I suspect similar will happen with Merkel in Germany. The political definition, as many experienced Republicans understood, is “anarchism.” The meaning of anarchism is tearing down what you dislike. In principle, you can’t have a developed philosophy to replace it. No one has a clue what post-Brexit Britain will be like. No one has a clue what Trumpeconomics will mean either. The Farages, Johnsons, Trumps knew how to fan existing very real discontent. But they don't have the solutions either.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 14:15:57 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Spin

"And don't speak too soon

For the wheel's still in spin

And there's no tellin' who

That it's namin'"


Entered at Wed Nov 9 14:11:15 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: The plank teeters

"We live in a political world

Where mercy walks the plank

Life is in mirrors

Death disappears

Up the steps to the nearest bank"


Entered at Wed Nov 9 13:53:44 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Adjusting

Last night I was shocked,perhaps stunned by an unexpected outcome.Today I look forward in a positive way & adjust to a new reality-perhaps.Or,once he becomes prez,he assumes the identity of a president and learns to express and act in a more steady & consistent manner.Either way,life goes on and often,life becomes the ability to happily adjust in difficult circumstances.Pray for the USA & the world & ROCK ON!


Entered at Wed Nov 9 13:24:10 CET 2016 from (173.59.47.251)

Posted by:

Luke

Location: PA

Trump won because people like me are sick of the permanent political establishment (both parties) that has screwed the working man. And, btw, I am a college grad from the Northeast. And Democrat Senator Robert KKK. Byrd was a KKK Grand Master. And Bill Clinton is the rapist. Grow up.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 10:48:17 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff, we have a couple of carpenters in today doing a small job. Their first comment was "Would you like us to start on a fall-out shelter instead?"


Entered at Wed Nov 9 10:19:05 CET 2016 from (173.3.48.238)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I'm sick to my stomach.

There's a couple of times in my life i was real close to becoming dead in a matter of seconds. The events, out of my control, passed, the danger & dealing & fright gone. Other than these times, i can't think of ever really being scared. Right now, I'm terrified. And it ain't gonna go away.

Now i feel like we're living in the time of the caveman and we could be in a permanent state of warfare for survival.

I've never been disconnected from the realities of the makeup or psyches of a great segment of this country. I've lived and worked in the greater milieu most of my life. And even in the urban streets, in the multi racial urban centers, many people are racist. And many people are misogynist. And many women will side with tyrants and abusive men.

What has baffled me, but not necessarily surprised me is the inability of intelligent people to unite against Trump.

ThiS lowlife bastard has had the skill to win the PRridency. but he has no qualifications to be PResident.

The constitution still exists, the safeteys are still there, but i believe he has a Republican congress, and he is going to have a Supreme Court, that could agree with him and do his dirty work on enough things to really turn this country upside down.

I think that anyone who truly believes in the principles this country was founded on has to be stunned, has to be feel like people did when JFK , MLK, & RFK were each assassinated. I don;t think this country will ever be the same. What happens next is anyone's guess. It's scary as hell. ANything can happen, and nothing at all is sacred. Everything has just changed forever.As far as i;m concerned, we're back in the time of the cavemen.

Bullying, lying,cheating, lack of conscience, all fly. All work. You can lie, cheat, rape, steal, slander, be a fucking moron, & become the President. I'm in shock. I got knives in my stomach. I've got as many black friends as i do white. My ex old lady was black.This fucking bastard won by appealing to whites who hate blacks, hispanics, jews & anyone who is not a white christian.....How can anyone who is not a KKK member feel safe? I still can't understand how any jews, e blacks, latinos, & other minorities could vote for him. But i have family & friends who did......


Entered at Wed Nov 9 09:06:08 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Whitelash

Stunned. Whitelash is the word they’re using. The US commentator on the radio said it was stored up white resentment at a black American president too.

What gets me is the deep misogyny. On TV a couple of days ago they were interviewing WOMEN in the Bible Belt and Rust Belt who said they could not vote for a woman as Commander in Chief. How does that conditioning get in? That you vote for the worst kind of groping sexist rather than another woman? This is a bad day for “mankind” but a worse day for womankind.

It is different here. As long as I can remember (I was a toddler) the Head of State has been the Queen. That was not because we’re less sexist, but a result of inheritance laws. But the Queen won everyone over … and we could look back to Queen Victoria, and Queen Elizabeth I, so we can readily see a woman as Commander in Chief. Therefore Margaret Thatcher’s gender was no barrier, nor was Teresa May’s gender an issue in the country as a whole. However in the internal Labour party election here, Angela Eagle, the obvious candidate was soon pushed out of the contest by the men. As they said then, white working class males are far less inclined to vote for a woman.

Where Trump was right is the comparison with Brexit and the disaffected in areas in rapid decline … the rust belt there, the North-East and South Wales here.

What you’ll have to put up with in the USA in the coming months is the same sort of statistical shite we get from the newspapers here. The 37.4% who voted for Brexit are now regularly described as “the popular vote” and “the overwhelming majority.”

Still in large areas you’ll be able to get stoned on weed and forget the barriers going up, people being rounded up and pushed across the borders …

QUOTE: "the warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! "

That’s from Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 08:18:19 CET 2016 from (173.3.48.238)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

White non college voters.........


Entered at Wed Nov 9 08:06:22 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Richard Condon

I read every book by Richard Condon. I thought the novels were intriguing fantasy. Demagogue presidents, backed by Russia (keen to stir up trouble in the West) in combination with the Mafia. A corrupt FBI working with the baddies. A Fascist crook getting to the White House as a result. I used to recommend them to friends. ‘Hah, they said. It’s all too absurd. Fantasy. It could never happen.”


Entered at Wed Nov 9 08:02:51 CET 2016 from (24.114.73.52)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: This just in........

.......James Comey also dislikes Robbie Robertson's "Testimony"........Fuck it all......I'm moving to Kathmandu !


Entered at Wed Nov 9 07:06:00 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Strange Days have found us

Strange days have found us

Strange days have tracked us down

Nausea abides


Entered at Wed Nov 9 05:35:39 CET 2016 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: The Gray Lady review of Testimony

A review of Testimony in the NY Times.

Here's hoping the above link works.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 05:11:19 CET 2016 from (104.172.47.55)

Posted by:

fiddler

Location: USA
Web: My link

Subject: Stage Fright: Live Collection

Anyone know the recording dates of the tracks in my link, other than the tracks by Danko, Manuel and Butterfield (from http://theband.hiof.no/albums/live_at_the_lone_star_rd_rm_pb_2011.html )? Thanks.


Entered at Wed Nov 9 04:49:44 CET 2016 from (62.210.105.116)

Posted by:

Roz

Oh my gosh.. I shoulda red a little down the page. I see Jeff Alexander is calling, wait.. Donald Trump wins OHIO and North Carolina.. just heard that.. and they're all nazis on the right side, eh? Yeah, same old bullshit. Bush was a nazi, Chaney was too.. But that corrupt stuffed Hillary who can barely make it through the day without falling over is so so perfect. I hope Hillary contests this election and refuses to concede


Entered at Wed Nov 9 04:34:46 CET 2016 from (37.187.129.166)

Posted by:

Rosalind

Have y'all been watching the TV? Maybe CNN or Msnbc? It's hilarious. It's HUGE news


Entered at Wed Nov 9 00:37:17 CET 2016 from (108.88.109.12)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Pre-fame John Denver covers the Band.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 23:58:23 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

The song that's been gong through my head all day. Linked …


Entered at Tue Nov 8 21:45:03 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ.Here & there was regarding your comments to me on the subject were here & there& not necessarily in response to what i wrote. I've no idea where you've been.

Pete, as you know the GOP are bold faced criminals, even when it would mean electing Trump. They'd have to kill him ,blame the liberals for it, make him a martyr, and then they'd be happy with the less obvious Nazi , Mike Pence, as President.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 21:24:37 CET 2016 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Young bigots too

JA - I didn't mean to indicate that these folks disappear generationally but through our history there has been a general movement torwards liberalism, with hiccups and outliers along that path too. What's "here and there" mean, as to where I've been?


Entered at Tue Nov 8 21:10:56 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Surprise, surprise … problems with voting machines in Democratic areas. Jeb Bush rides again?


Entered at Tue Nov 8 21:09:28 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ, racist morons and white supremacists do not disappear as generations die off. Nor do Muslim Extremists. Where have you been?


Entered at Tue Nov 8 21:06:49 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ, if you think i was talking about old geezers, you're way wrong.

Separately, cause you've been here and there..When i wrote about I'm afraid there might be violence if Hillary wins, i meant exactly that. Afraid there might be.Once violence starts, who knows where it goes. It could be squelched, or keep going.Escalate, or not. Of course, there's police, and military to hopefully end it quickly.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 20:57:47 CET 2016 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Location: Violence from white geezers

Hey Jeff - I don't have much of any direct interaction with that crowd now, but I've had plenty of experience through my life. An advantage for the country is that by 2020 a good number of these types of boomers will be dead. And, typically, most real progress happens generationally. I don't expect much meaningful violence to come with a Hillary victory, though you likely know aspect that better than me currently-


Entered at Tue Nov 8 20:41:31 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ: Do you have much interaction with real hardcore white antagonistic prone to violence types? Or much interaction with younger hardcore Bernie supporters. Alot of the Bernie suporters were / are pretty soft, and then there's those who aren't. Bernie had a pretty young base. Bernie's supporters were very engaged, still are. Many of em foam at the mouth. Many are soft, but there was a real contingent that wasn't.And that included whites, & a very strong black and latino element.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 20:05:54 CET 2016 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bernie fans vs Trump's

Jeff A - I don't think there would have been a big eruption between these two groups: I believe, to a degree, they have too much in common in regard to their general ignorance.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 19:52:49 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: North Carolina & Utah

I see they are having problems with voting machines in Durham North Carolina and in Utah. Democrats outnumber Republicans 5-1 in this area of Durham. Echoes of 2000. They've had 15 months to prepare for this one day. Geesh.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 19:39:36 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Lee, timid, kind of. Yes. Had Bernie won the Democratic nation, there'd have been no timidity at all. There would have been violence between Bernie's younger, more vocal supporters, & the Trump supporters. And as rough on Hillary as Trump was, he'd have been much rougher on Bernie. I think he'd have had more support if he ran against Bernie. Yet I also think Bernie wold have had yuuge backing. I'm convinced there would have been lots of violence.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 19:28:09 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Lawrence O Donnell: "Brooklyn is gonna win tomorrow. The real America is gonna win tomorrow."

Chuck Schumer, who is figures prominently in the piece, grew up where Bernie Sanders grew up & I also grew up. He was in the middle, about a block from Bernie lived, block and half from me. I have no future in politics.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 19:08:30 CET 2016 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: DDay for the USA

Amazing how timid the electorate seems to be here this cycle. While there are numerous Trump roadside signs vs. only some for Hillary, there are almost no bumper stickers compared to the numerous ones for Obama in '08 and '12. (I 'girled up' and have Clinton/Kaine on both front and back.) I think people are actually afraid to be openly against Trump. My prayer is that there is a silent majority that will turn out to vote against Dennis the Menace if not enthusiastically for Ms. Clinton. America is better than Trump.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 17:17:26 CET 2016 from (70.15.249.23)

Posted by:

bob w

Subject: Born in the USA

Can't imagine a sadder state of affairs than what we have witnessed in American politics over the past year or so. Sure hoping we can gather ourselves and move forward as a unified country. It is going to take some great leadership to make it happen.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 16:21:34 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Slamming the door shut

Theme Song for today and the last 18 months:

' Strange Days'

Strange days have found us

Strange days have tracked us down


Entered at Tue Nov 8 14:24:44 CET 2016 from (31.48.0.156)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Jed

Your post confirms what we are reading about over here. Good luck.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 13:50:28 CET 2016 from (174.88.217.37)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Jeff, Bob F, Jed et al.

Good luck out there, guys.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 13:40:15 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Voting

Went to vote at 6 am and the lines were long-longer then i've ever seen.A certain tension in the air coupled with relief.Things may get worse after its over.Seems everyone has chosen a side and will stick with it no matter the outcome.What a mess.A little empathy and love might go a long way if people are brave enough to try to grasp it.Fascinating and concerning at the same time.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 13:31:17 CET 2016 from (31.48.0.156)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Al

A moving, eloquent eulogy, Al. It was great that your honorary wee brother was surrounded by his family.

I always think about how life is unfair. Always. Some children are born with real challenges ahead of them.

And I always think we should judge a society by how it looks after its most vulnerable and needy. I feel we could do better.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 10:55:34 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The rest of the world is praying “Barry Goldwater” – it has to be a landslide for Hilary. It’s actually frightening to see just how many states Trump apparently has in the bag. A majority of human beings in e.g.Texas will actually vote for a deeply racist, sexist, multi-millionaire, who has never held public office, and who made his money in property and hotels in Atlantic City and Las Vegas? WTF, we have all seen the Godfather, Goodfellas, The Sopranos. And people believe you can make that much money from casinos and be peachy-clean?

Springsteen or Trump as the articulate voice of blue collar America?

I’m not joking when I say we have planned a long trip to the USA for next year, and last night we said to friends, ‘If Trump wins, we switch to Canada.’ They said, ‘Exactly what we’d been thinking.’ It’ll be good for Canadian tourism, but you may have to deal with many US citizens wanting to head north.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 10:07:53 CET 2016 from (210.86.82.198)

Posted by:

Rod

Good luck for the election guys. The world's counting on you.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 07:32:41 CET 2016 from (24.114.48.173)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Long Walk Home - Bruce Springsteen

Bravo for your thoughts, Jeff - which ring out both true and important. The national nightmare is about to end and it has been a campaign that I truly could never in my wildest dreams have ever imagined for a country as educated and advanced as the U.S.......The exclamation point of disgrace was the FBI issuing that mad memo 11 days ago that no doubt swayed millions of advance poll votes - only (to no sane persons surprise) announce yesterday that all emails in question had already been REVIEWED AND CLEARED by the bureau. The damage done is that what should have been a landslide embarrassing thrashing to that vile racsist Trump will now be just a routine beating that will not be good enough to discourage or erase even the thought of such a candidate ever being taken seriously again in a country like the U.S.

Bruce Spirngsteen: Life is all about learning and if necessary change - and after watching/listening to his performance & words to the Hillary rally tonight in Philly - I realized just what a beautiful and fine human being this man is. More important than his music or what I may have found frustrating with the "Boss" persona or the limitations of most of his "fan base" - this is a man I will forevermore honour for his heart and true love of country and all of its citizens.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 03:02:55 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.46)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I'm afraid if Hillary doesn't win by a landslide that there actually is violence. I'm also afraid that regardless of a loss Trump tries to incite violence. That's why a landslide is so important. But even so, i doubt he wants to disappear, or will quietly. He needs to be thoroughly embarassed & humiliated, though it's not necessarily possible for him to have though emotions.

While i don't like everything he did or signed off on, I must say Obama and his wife have been a wonderful President and First Lady.


Entered at Tue Nov 8 01:59:18 CET 2016 from (65.93.102.172)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I missed this one......
Art Garfunkel on Sanders ad using "America"


Entered at Tue Nov 8 00:54:28 CET 2016 from (173.3.50.46)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Alternate Election Eve Music


Entered at Mon Nov 7 17:17:17 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Tell Me Why You Like Roosevelt

Presidential elections always get me playing Jesse Winchester's great take on this song.



Entered at Mon Nov 7 02:59:53 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

BILL M...I also really like the lines in Edie Brickell's What I Am...

Philosophy is a walk on the slippery rocks
Religion is a light in the fog

Choke me in the shallow water Before I get too deeeeep
Don't let me get too deeeeep

I Bid You Good Night


Entered at Mon Nov 7 02:19:11 CET 2016 from (24.114.69.153)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: words to remember

BEG: I love Edie for just these lines:

Philosophy is words on a cereal box
And religion is the smile on a dog.


Entered at Mon Nov 7 00:43:27 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Scouse

SOUNDS DELICIOUS. I love stew.

Serves: 4-6 (the 'lb' units were not present, but I assume it is correct?

¼ lb beef stew meat

¼ lb breast of lamb (or other lamb?)

1 large onion

½ carrots

2¼ potatoes

2 broth cubes

2 teaspoons vegetable oil\ worcestershire sauce

salt

pepper

water



Entered at Mon Nov 7 00:29:53 CET 2016 from (96.54.61.38)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Al

One hell of a eulogy Al. I hope when my time comes there's someone like you around. Funny but it brought back a memory from many years ago when the grandmother, who was from liverpool, of my ex-wife used to whip up a pan of scouse. Never knew what the fuck was in it but man was it ever comfort food. Years later and just before she passed at 89 we had her around to our house and I thought I'd surprise her with a pan of scouse. Only problem was I put garlic in it. Well after her first mouthful she spit it back into her bowl and asked me if I was fucking daft! Only way I could placate her was to slip her a couple of ciggies which she wasn't supposed to have. Old Alice would have loved you Al.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 23:20:17 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: What really counts

Al: You have sensitively and with compassion defined in this short description what counts in life. Thank you.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 22:51:45 CET 2016 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Thanks so much

I just wanted to take the opportunity to thank everyone for such kind sentiments concerning our Steve and to share a few further sentiments. If I could just say that reading your words it’s really moved me to know we’re amongst folks who want to show they care in such circumstances. To me it reveals the GB as a community - perhaps one spread far and wide and perhaps only cyber for the most part - yet a community nonetheless. The song links were beautiful too and so fitting. It all meant a lot. Thanks.

I’m sure you’ll have presumed it but I’ll just confirm to you all that Steve was given a lovely farewell. Extremely sad and tearful it goes without saying. And I have to say I did find it very hard to bear the finality of realising I’d never see again the person who’d become like the kid brother I never had. But at the same time the day was sprinkled with the so vital warmth and laughter that love and fondness can bring to such partings which enabling us all to get through.

We celebrated Steve’s life even its troubled times. The fact was in the those basic aspects of life that most of us do take pretty much for granted - most notably relationships and working careers – the physical limitations of Steve's cerebral palsy and the mental challenges which accompanied it saw to it that he was ultimately destined to be denied such basic mainstays of life.

Amidst those restrictions, however, what Steve never denied himself was the hope that one day he would realize his ambition to fulfill those two basics - to hold down a job and share his life with someone. That neither was ever to come to fruition never saw him sink into any despair. Always he would retain a positivity that one day one or the other or both would arrive. It was an object lesson in how hope really can spring eternal.

And yet, what Steve was able to do in his later years as the reality of those doors closing on him did come to reveal itself was to find other more achievable ways of finding that sense of basic fulfilment for which he yearned. And so bit by bit with the help of his loved ones he became a part of various voluntary charitable organisations – a small yet important cog - which filled his life with the reciprocal joy that helping others even less fortunate than himself can bring.

His greatest joy became his Yoga group with similarly afflicted souls which brought him a richness of activity, friendship and camaraderie that yielded him so much joy. And that above all seemed to help him come to terms with his final days in a way that I’ve never before experienced with anyone in his position. He talked of his impending finality with an acceptance that quite took the breath away. Forinstance, it meant he meticulously planned every aspect of his final day right down to the precise recipe for the huge pan of scouse which was to form the centrepiece of his post service wake.

He had his wonderful family – brother Dave, sisters Pam and Lynne and niece and nephew Cathy and James – running round in circles to ensure the day would go the way he envisaged. Truth is they’d have run circles around the moon to guarantee it such was their devotion to him. Steve, of course, was never going to be there to see it all come to fruition. I’m sure he did though.

This being a forum where the love of music provides the raison d’etre for the presence of each of us here, I think it’s fitting that I finish my little eulogy to Steve by referencing the song that provided Steve with no little motivation over this past decade or so of his life and I guess in many ways ensured that I remained so minded to encourage him within it. In its essence music is such a simple basic part of our lives yet it can so often provide a level of inspiration that few other things can match. The sentiments of this song are universal of course but the final verse in particular resonated so much with Steve and I like to think played a part in the fulfilment he seemed to find in his later years.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 20:59:59 CET 2016 from (114.75.200.1)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Some more extracts from Testimony.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 18:49:59 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Tico and the Triumphs

Marty Cooper, Mickey Borack and Howie Beck with Jerry Landis (Paul Simon) formed Tico and the Triumphs. They recorded some singles. (little success). Jerry (Paul) never (live) performed with them as far as the stories I read noted.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 17:48:12 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Jerry Landis persists in the face of variable success

Reading 2 bios of Paul Simon.(Homeword Bound and the S&G bio) The early years and his efforts as he came slowly to prominence makes for very interesting reading. He struggled and pushed and prodded and recreated himself (with and without Artie) for years (since the late 50s) recording singles for small labels in the NY area. His persistence is very impressive. His first Tom and Jerry single sold moderately well locally but he had many failures. You can hear all of these on a recording of the records by Tom and Jerry and other groupings with his fronting. Worth reading.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 16:45:22 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eyed

Web: My link

In 1988 I bought Paul Simon's partner's recording......
Edie Brickell and The Bohemians....
Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars.....
Her most recognized song.......What I Am.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 16:20:36 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

November 6, 2016
Sunday Morning

Paul Simon: Expanding his “big bag of sounds”


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: 1950s-60s Vee Jay Records 1/4" Master Tapes For Sale.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 02:06:01 CET 2016 from (184.66.251.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Hello Its Me

Bill M: Me too. I have the autograph from AMH visit. I'm not into autographs or even necessarily meeting the artists unless its after a show. Why? I don't really know. I enjoy meeting the performer after a show when they make themselves available. Its in the moment. The artist has done something special. Its been a great experience with Sharon Jones, with all the members of Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, with the late Jeff Healey, with Aaron Neville and with Bruce Cockburn. And recently this summer with Daniel Wesley of White Rock, BC. The lineup visits at events like this one (a book, a record) - not the same. My experience.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 01:55:46 CET 2016 from (64.229.12.156)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: I hadn't thought of getting an autograph, lineup or not. Maybe Robbie will have pre-autographed several boxfuls of copies; that seems the sensible approach. A "To Bill ..." note would be pretty meaningless given we'd never have met before. Come to think of it, I already have Robbie's autograph (alongside Rob Bowman's) on the AMH set, which my dear wife lined-up for at Indigo and brought home as a surprise.


Entered at Sun Nov 6 00:16:36 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan Live 1966

You can enjoy some of the Dylan Live 1966 recordings on NPR First Listen.


Entered at Sat Nov 5 21:11:22 CET 2016 from (70.68.113.53)

Posted by:

Lisa

Bill, I'll be going to the Vancouver event, which is being held in a lovely old cathedral in December.

I don't know what the format will be - if there will be an interviewer, or whatever - but I'll report back for sure. The book seems to be getting good reviews, so I'm looking forward to it.


Entered at Sat Nov 5 20:02:07 CET 2016 from (24.114.48.173)

Posted by:

Kevin J

brown eyed girl.......The world would probably benefit if we all decided to hug 600 strangers a day......I'm just not going to be first in line.......and here's hoping a few in the "selfie" crowd take backwards tumbles over the Falls today!


Entered at Sat Nov 5 19:17:27 CET 2016 from (68.71.21.190)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Are you calling me a nutty fan Kevin, huh? I can't help myself if I'm the hugging type! True true true. Sitting by Niagara Falls.....and I hear The Weight by The Band! Only the Falls separated Levon from the Canadian Band members. Although on the other side of the Falls.......


Entered at Sat Nov 5 17:55:14 CET 2016 from (24.114.48.173)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: I am not a fan of those sorts of events in general - autograph sessions - though it would be nice to have the book, which I certainly plan on purchasing as soon as it is released for reading on travels over Christmas, signed by Robbie. That all said, no - not planning on attending......Funny thing about Strombo is that he seems to know far more about Robbie's solo career than The Band's - and Testimony stops at 1976 !

I signed about 50 cheques the other day and my hand almost fell off ! Imagine having to sit in a room, look up , smile and sign 500 or 600 books. Madness ! And Springsteen threw in Hugs and a selfie for all his nutty fans. When Jimmy Page was in Toronto last year, the newspapers reported that he had a signature stamp he used for the books and albums - no signing or hugging for Mr. Page.

I was hoping that Robbie would stop in at CIUT for a chat in December....


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Posted by:

NWC

Subject: A BIG EMERGENCY "OOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPSSSS"

I used the proverb "he" when I meant Mrs. NWC. Of course it should be "she". In our language there is only one proverb for the both genus'. Believe me, I've done this mistake before ! Facebook has 37 or 43 genus'. It is OK for me ... but let me have two!


Entered at Sat Nov 5 17:00:40 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Al

Deepest sympathies Al.


Entered at Sat Nov 5 16:44:04 CET 2016 from (83.249.132.119)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: To JAl JEdge -

For a couple of thousands years ago primitive Finns - it is possible that there are still a few silly ones, even posting in the internet - believed that the souls of dead people are showing to us in the form of birds. This happened in 1987 near your hometown Liverpool. We were driving to Chester on muddy dirt roads. We were stuck between two hills. I tried and tried to get our humble Escort out of the trouble. It was November: black mud was black but the headlights made it golden. Mrs. NorthWestCoaster begann to cry... not because of the terrible conditions, but because of the future reactions of the staff in our London hotell when seeing his muddy clothes. When I was just loosing my faith I heard a "Cheepy Cheep" from a tree. (Have I told you that I can speak with birds? It is the time to do so.) It meant clearly: "Tighten your handbrake a bit so your _BOTH_ driving wheels will have a grip!" And we managed to drive to Chester and London. (Well, mrs NWC was muddy and angry.)

What I want to say is that if you are in trouble with your car in the middle of nowhere - in familiar Wales or in Sweden or in snowy Finland - your cousin Steve will appear as a bird trying to get you out of the trouble. Only thing you have to do is keeping your eyes and ears open. Simple like that. - But maybe it is your Time to go. Simple like that.


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Brum UK

Subject: Thinking of you Al

Sorry for your loss Al. Take care Al, always a shock.


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Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Sometimes I Forget

Al, so sorry about Steve. I've always found comfort in this beautiful Loudon Wainwright song.


Entered at Sat Nov 5 03:58:30 CET 2016 from (64.229.12.156)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

Kevin J: Are you going to hear Robbie at the TIFF Lightbox in a couple weeks? Unfortunately his interviewer will be Strombo.


Entered at Sat Nov 5 02:46:09 CET 2016 from (70.68.113.53)

Posted by:

Lisa

I'm so sorry to hear of your loss, Al. Deepest sympathies to your family.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Al

Very well said Al. Feel for you man.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Sorry, Al....Cousin Steve.....


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: So it was Rick that settled the name game.....

Rolling Stone magazine has another exerpt from Testimony......nice bit about the naming of the group.......Robbie was a bit late noticing that everyone in Woodstock was referring to the boys as The Band......and in a related conversation, it was Rick that stated simply "We are 'the Band,' simple as that. All those other silly names bug me. I don't even like thinking about it." Robbie then brought it to Albert Grossman and so it became - eventually.

Al Edge: Very sorry to hear of the loss of your cousin Kevin.


Entered at Sat Nov 5 00:04:33 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.154)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

My condolences Al.

Pete, how do we gauge quality & length of a show any more? Actual minutes, trips to the rest room, or if our gums float, or our eyes turn yellow? If the music's that great you let your eyes turn yellow, that's one helluva show. But, i've been fortunate to learn that in two of the clubs i frequent, in one the sound in the bathroom is fucking amazing, & the other, the sound on the way up the stairs and on the straightaway overlooking the rear of the club,leading to the men's room the sound is also excellent.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For AL EDGE.....


Entered at Fri Nov 4 21:14:05 CET 2016 from (96.239.25.33)

Posted by:

Joan

Al my condolences to you and your family A lossindeed


Entered at Fri Nov 4 17:08:30 CET 2016 from (74.14.7.247)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Attitude is everything

Peter V: Praise to your F-I-L. Attitude is everything. If he has this approach, it will serve him well.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 16:42:03 CET 2016 from (72.69.195.161)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Condolences to Al & his Loved Ones


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Posted by:

Peter V

Condolences, Al. What can anyone say? Too young.

JT says it so well. My father-in-law is 94, and has just had a serious hospital bout … burst duodenal ulcer. Five hours in the emergency resuscitation room. That was three weeks ago. He still declines to make a will, just saying, "It's standard. I don't need to. Every one lives to 100 nowadays." Well, the funerals I've attended the last few years have all, sadly, been much younger.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 14:46:28 CET 2016 from (74.14.7.247)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Mortality

I write this with trepidation but I know it will strike a chord with many here. Recently, someone who I know in the arts came to visit and said something like 'all my friends are dying all around me' with a sadness and a profound sense of loss. This is an age-old issue for us as we get into our 60s (or more) and the same is true. Confronting our own mortality in the face of loss of family and friends when it first 'hits you' is a major event in one's life, I think. As I always say to anyone who has suffered a loss of friend or family "Remember the good times." As to our mortality, my answer is that I wake up in the morning and I see my face in the mirror and its a good day. The rest is gravy. As we lose our beloved performers, I feel like something vital has been taken from me and it diminishes us all. Again, Al, I am sorry for your loss.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 14:07:34 CET 2016 from (70.15.249.23)

Posted by:

bob w

My sympathies to you and your family, Al. Very sorry to learn of your loss.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 14:02:55 CET 2016 from (24.114.77.253)

Posted by:

Bill M

Condolences, Al. Can't be easy for you.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Wearing out

My Brown album CD wore out and started jumping all over the place.

I went upto Glasgow and bought the remastered CD in Fopp.

But I feel I'm getting old. You can now buy MFBP and the Brown album on one CD for very little money.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 13:04:36 CET 2016 from (31.48.0.156)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Sorry to hear of your news, Al. Hope you get some rest and peace now.

Enjoyed the Paul Simon review, Peter. Wish I had been there. Interesting that there were four songs from 'The Rhythm of the Saints'. Interesting thoughts. I'll have to revisit it, I tend to play one of the other albums, all of which I really value.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 01:57:37 CET 2016 from (65.95.179.100)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: ! not ?

That should have been, ! not ?. Funny how a punctuation mark can change meaning.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 01:56:36 CET 2016 from (65.95.179.100)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Rhymin' Simon

Thank you for that review, Peter V. What a wonderful show? Commitment and creative excellence. What a powerful combination.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 01:43:58 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Paul Simon

Review of Thursday's Paul Simon concert linked. A truly great band. A long show, More energy from Paul than a year ago or ten years ago, and the voice is as good as ever. Brilliant.


Entered at Fri Nov 4 00:30:10 CET 2016 from (65.95.179.100)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Wise and sensitive words

Al Edge: You said it so well. What wisdom. I'm sorry for your loss.


Entered at Thu Nov 3 23:30:15 CET 2016 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Rest in Peace

I have to be honest and admit to not being familiar with Bap Kennedy but what a sad loss of a seemingly fine artist at such a relatively young age.

Right now I'm counting down the final few hours before we bid a final farewell to my dear cousin Steve who passed away peacefully a fortnight ago. Over the last few decades he had become more a huge part of our family and was more of a young brother to me than a cousin. He, too, has been snatched away at a time of life when he was finally beginning to bloom following many years of personal struggle. All's we know is that life can sometimes be so unfair and the passing of such fine folks as our dear Steve and the seemingly the hugely talented Bap Kennedy tells us just how much we need to cherish every loved one and every moment for their preciousness.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Bap Kennedy

Not A Day Goes By - I think this is my favorite of his, currently at least. Too bad, too young.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Bap Kennedy review 2012

Link to my review of 2012. RIP.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Bap Kennedy

I knew he was ill, and terminal, as I get links from his website. The link goes to Toppermost. An album was in he final stages of preparation a few weeks ago. It's due out on 18th November and called Reckless Heart. I've just ordered a copy. He didn't quite make it.

Heartfelt condolences to Brenda Kennedy, who played bass guitar with him. Mrs V went to the same primary school as Brenda, and we had a lovely chat with them at their 2012 show. Wonderful people. I'll link to my review next.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bap Kennedy

Moonlight Kiss alone was one of my favourites.

R.I.P.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: G. Lightfoot covers E. John

This is fun - "Your Song" recorded in LA 1970.


Entered at Thu Nov 3 14:02:50 CET 2016 from (74.14.7.247)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Bap Kennedy

I too admired the work of Bap Kennedy. Thank you for alerting me to this. Pancreatic cancer is a devastating condition. I will pull up the music soon and listen to this very talented singer/songwriter.


Entered at Thu Nov 3 13:28:29 CET 2016 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Angelina

Scrolling down it looks like I've missed out on loads of stuff including all the recent stuff about his royal bobness etc but Angie I couldn't help but notice you've recently heard RoseAnne.

Well - as it happens I really connected with RoseAnn's stuff - as did a few others on here not least our amazing GB DJ JD!

Anyroad seems like as good a time as any to put up the review of her last EP for you to read!

Nowt like a spot of RoseAnn eulogising!!

AIRING OF GRIEVANCES - REVIEW

So I’m not really sure how to talk about RoseAnn Fino’s new record. I rate it so highly but if I continue my odyssey to eulogise about the music she makes then I’m sure it’s tempting for folks to dismiss such eulogising as merely the ramblings of her dad’s mate. Or maybe some one-eyed fanatic. Also I know only too well that in the past I’ve rubbed people up the wrong way by shoving my enthusiasm in their faces when they want to make up their own minds free of propaganda from me.

And yet my problem is that considered middle ground territory has never been comfy territory for me. Ambivalence is not my scene. If I’m only so-so about something then I tend just to keep schtum . I don’t really see the point in writing or posting about anything I don’t consider remarkable.

So, yeah, you’ve guessed it, in this instance I’ll risk the dismissals, the sleights and such like to enter the eulogising zone that comes most naturally to me. And, boy, does the quality of this record induce within me some urge for rampant eulogising. Quite simply, in my own humble/not so humble opinion [delete as most appropriate] the four tracks on RoseAnn's latest record are as good as anything I've ever come across since my late Uncle Dave first exposed me to the swinging joys of Bobby Darin back in the late ‘50’s.

Yes, I honestly believe it’s that good. And in mitigation against accusations of making such a claim spuriously I speak as someone who up until my exposure these past few months to Roseann’s latest offering has held Astral Weeks, Highway 61, The Band’s early albums, 12 Songs, Blue, Murmur, Please Please Me, Revolver, Talking Book, Sly’s Greatest Hits, The River and Grand Prix as my own personal high water listening benchmarks.

I was sent the MP3's some two months ago by Roseann's dad and have listened to all four tracks probably every day since - often repeated listenings. They are so good that even after so many repeated hearings I find myself still hankering after listening to them again and again. That, by my reckoning, is as stringent a litmus test as there ever was for a record's greatness. So much so, I've been desperate to put the MP3 links on here for others to share but kept my word to her dad that I would wait until the official release date which was yesterday.

As most reading this are already aware I've raved about RoseAnn before - and certainly not just because she's the daughter of a friend but because I believe she is quite simply an outstanding young artist with a rare lyrical/musical songwriting talent and a performing ability and charisma to complement her burgeoning creativity.

On her previous Out From Under record I felt three of the four tracks were outstanding. That was not simply my own take. Some on here - Albie [92A], Cassiel and VBG to name just three - felt similar if not quite so avid enthusiasm as myself for the quality of the songs on that record. But make no mistake, as good as that last record was, RoseAnn has now moved artistically onto another level with what I can only term a minor masterpiece in The Airing of Grievances.

It might sound like an outrageous claim given the lowly levels of recognition that exists for her to date but for me Airing of Grievances reveals an artist who creatively is already very near the top of the ladder. Aided and abetted by her trusty bandmates whose own musical qualities have clearly infused extra magic into the raw song ingredients with which RoseAnn has presented them, the record’s thematic material, its teasing, hauntingly beautiful melodies, Roseann’s unerring vocal authenticity, the tight clever arrangements and her own and her bandmates’ sterling musicianship are all wonderfully synthesised into what is a breathtaking collective.

The record’s theme is of crazy mixed up overwhelming despair laced with contrasting shards of defiant pride and contentment at a lifestyle at once challenged and debauched by hedonistic tendencies/weaknesses yet at the same time occasionally fulfilled by the music she manages to create and the ensuing joy it provides for her and her, as yet, small band of followers.

Yet whilst great records demand a consistent theme, they also need songs of distinction to provide the melodic platform to complete the circle. And on this record that requirement is met in bucketfuls.

The opening title track is unusual and not a little madcap. It uniquely blends singalong vaudeville with jaunty skiffle whilst introducing the record’s thread of desperation with a self-deprecating comic style belying that desperation. It works magnificently. The second track – the Drinking Song - is the record’s centrepiece. It is brief yet outstanding by any standard, taking us to the very heart of the singer’s despair and failures with a dark, brooding ballad that aches so much it would leave Hank Williams short of tears. The song’s musical climax soars to a peak that tears at your guts, promising escape and resolution only for that promise to be forsaken by the ultimate regret of the song’s closing lines. Track three, Touch Me, is a swirling rocker that sees the singer defiant, taunting willing admirers with provocative ‘come-ons’. Initial hearings pick up a Sympathy for The Devil connection. Several plays later the song has left any such slender mimicry far behind, revealing its full rocking majesty and simply demanding to be played again and again for its many layers to be absorbed.

The album’s closing track – Californian Debutante – is another stunning brooding lament. This time for a lost love that feels to the singer like it can be the only one she’ll ever know. Its haunting beauty brings to an end 20 minutes or so of incredible music that sits alongside any you care to name. It is to be hoped this landmark quartet of truly great songs marks a breakthrough for a talent so richly deserving of it. Such things don’t always pan out the way they should as we all know. But when you have an artist with music within their locker as good as this, then it is to be hoped it does.

:-0)


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Congratulations on your team's victory. Hope your winning streak continues.


Entered at Thu Nov 3 13:17:47 CET 2016 from (79.75.186.217)

Posted by:

Solomon

Web: My link

Subject: Bap Kennedy RIP

I always liked his music from his Energy Orchard days to his solo albums with Steve Earle and beyond. Mark Knopfler said he was "an extremely talented and committed songwriter who applied himself to his craft at all times".


Entered at Thu Nov 3 09:58:08 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Bill, I'd get that phone tested for diabetes. Is it an apple iPhone? Apples have a lot of natural fructose.


Entered at Thu Nov 3 00:38:40 CET 2016 from (24.114.48.197)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for clarifying. Still a criminal omission. Speaking of which, when I clicked on BEG's link, my phone refused - gave me a big red warning about the site's trustworthiness. It's almost never so squeamish, so will take its advice.


Entered at Thu Nov 3 00:18:53 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

I meant BEG's earlier link.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 23:27:08 CET 2016 from (24.114.48.197)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: The promised link does not appear. However, from what you say, they must've missed Big Maybelle's "Candy" - a criminal oversight in my books.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 20:35:08 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

Posted by:

Bob F

Web: My link

Subject: Elmore Magazine Review for RoseAnn @ Mercury Lounge

Elmore magazine gave RoseAnn's last show a very good review.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 18:20:43 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sugar 'n' Spice

The linked list missed "Sugar & Spice" by The Searchers. It said "no candy or honey titles" so I guess that takes out Sweets for My Sweet, also by The Searchers, who were covering the Drifters. There are dozens of possibles.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 17:38:17 CET 2016 from (74.14.7.247)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Sucrose

I'm not convinced about neurotoxins but I am about sugar and its ills. Staying away from much sucrose is a good idea from the experts in endocrinology and nutrition to whom I have spoken.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 17:19:24 CET 2016 from (64.229.12.156)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

JT: For your gig list, Robbie played a song from Redboy onstage at the National Aboriginal Achievement Awards ceremony in Toronto on March 12, 1998. Buffy Ste-Marie received a Lifetime Achievement Award at that time; Robbie received his own Lifetime Achievement Award in 2003.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 14:29:40 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sugar Songs to sweeten your day.

Previous post re sugar.....Eastern medicine white sugar and white flour and dairy are considered the "three evils" in our diet.

Busy the rest of the week....so have a good one!


Entered at Wed Nov 2 13:59:51 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Watch Jimmy Kimmel Trick Kids With Annual Halloween Candy Prank

Host's post-October 31st torture experiment returns with feigned fainting, heavy sobbing and kids attacking parents


Entered at Wed Nov 2 13:42:11 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For JT...I think a long time ago you posted about sugar? I attended a talk by Canadian Dr. Carolyn Dean who is also an ND about sugar. She had a practice in Toronto and then moved to NYC to do research. I think she moved again.....

It was also the time where I learned that Aspartame is actually a neurotoxin. In Eastern medicine the three "evils" are sugar, flour, dairy. In a Vegetarian Newsletter I read that during Medieval Times that sugar was considered a poison. Unfortunately for myself, sugar has been my main drug.....Chocolate in particular is in the blood.....My paternal grandpa arrived in Canada in 1929. Before he owned a restaurant and store.....He worked with his Uncle in the chocolate business. He had terrible teeth....the ones that remained....He refused to see a dentist. He was still the coolest man I ever knew and loved. We would drive to visit my relatives in Kitchener and I'd be blasting "Radio Love" (Hei Norbert!) or whatever......He wouldn't even turn an eyelash......Yes, his hearing was good! lol We were great companions to each other.......

When I bought the book From Chocolate to Morphine.....I read that my other favourite drug....nitrous oxide.......Apparently highly addictive.......Good thing I only have access while at the dentist. I've had surgeries and because of it even dental cleanings can be very painful. So when I'm inhaling nitrous oxide my dentist waits until it kicks in....and it does......literally......while Nano is playing in my ears and I'm relaxing with pillow behind my head; my dentist can clean as fast and hard as she wants beause I don't feel a thing. New regulations prevent hygienists now from working on patients while on inhalation. During this time I can actually think outside of the box and see any challenges in my life in a different way. It is because of this temporary high and time where I can reflect on problems and see people or situations in a different light.....that I absolutely love going to the dentist. For those of you who take homeopathic remedies like myself....Arnica is to be taken the day before, the day of and the day after if you have any invasive procedures.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 12:49:12 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Untold Story of Bernie Sanders' 1987 Folk Album

"Michael [Jackson] assembled a bunch of superstars — we assembled a bunch of Vermonters," says studio owner Todd Lockwood


Entered at Wed Nov 2 02:01:26 CET 2016 from (114.75.198.23)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Adele 'I'd be happy never to tour again.'


Entered at Wed Nov 2 01:12:36 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

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Subject: Ralph McTell

Review of Ralph McTell in Poole (linked). It seems he started out in Poole too. There is WAY more to his catalogue than "Streets of London" as I explain. First rate guitarist as well as a singer and narrator.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 00:35:41 CET 2016 from (99.229.224.79)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: sadavid

I'm really enjoying this book. A lot about Simon I never knew. Quite the musical scholar and businessman wheeler dealer. Very bright guy.


Entered at Wed Nov 2 00:28:47 CET 2016 from (24.114.52.163)

Posted by:

Bill M

Re NwC's post about FinLit, Longfellow borrowed the rhythm of Kalevala for "Hiawatha". And Jerome K. Jerome dipped into it playfully it for a couple of paragraphs in "Three Men in a Boat" (a favourite of RtO's).

NwC: I'm sure that if Camus had lived long enough, he would have been found sitting on the ground crosslegged, softly singing "Wear Your Love Like Heaven".


Entered at Tue Nov 1 23:06:18 CET 2016 from (86.128.176.192)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: The plight of the artist

A news item on BBC Scotland this morning told of an academic survey which discovered that two thirds of UK perorming artists suffer from anxiety and panic talks.

I always thought this was an important factor explaining why artists stop touring.

Another news story related to Brexit and the drop in value of the pound. In January, Glasgow has its Celtic Connections festival. It features stars, Scottish artists, and emerging artists across various genres, but is folk related. This year I've noticed Olivia Newton John, Fairport Convention, the Felice brothers and Rab Noakes are playing to give examples. The organiser of the festival has been explaining that the fall in the pound has meant he has not had so much money to bring bigger American artists across.

Thanks, Kevin. I knew so little about your list that I thought I would give it a go. Only had one of the mentioned artists in my collection. The Charlebois melody is now on a loop going around my head.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 20:16:41 CET 2016 from (131.137.35.8)

Posted by:

sadavid

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Subject: "Graceland" as poetry

This is one of the artifacts from the Emory event -- a professor of literature dissects the title song for 17 minutes.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 19:40:26 CET 2016 from (131.137.35.8)

Posted by:

sadavid

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Subject: the literary Paul Simon

Mr. Simon has figured heavily in discussion of the Dylan Nobel lately.
The review of Simon bio _Homeward Bound_ [My link] mentions that:

" . . . he was invited to Atlanta three years ago, to be celebrated, interviewed and listened to in Emory University’s Richard Ellman Lectures in Modern Literature – an honour previously granted to Seamus Heaney, Umberto Eco and Salman Rushdie."


Entered at Tue Nov 1 17:28:11 CET 2016 from (24.44.153.18)

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Bob F

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BEG, thanks to you and imagezulu for giving RoseAnn's latest song a listen. Attached is link to entire ep and what Ro wrote about it when she released it.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 16:47:11 CET 2016 from (83.249.132.119)

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NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest
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Subject: 1.) Camus and Sartre 2.) Local next generation rock/soul

1.) If Dylan is "Sartre" so Donovan has to be "Camus". I am Camus-man and Donovan-man. I recommend the footage in Island on Donovan's 50th birthday. I vist Camus' grave twice a year but never Sartre's!

2.) On happier side: the link is to "School-boy Band Next Generation".


Entered at Tue Nov 1 16:39:26 CET 2016 from (24.114.74.163)

Posted by:

Kevin J

brown eyed girl : Excuse me. I was being a bit silly. I love the Infidels album and right from that first great song "Jokerman"....Sly and Robbie - - and Mick Taylor - are all over it and dominate in a beautiful way.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 15:42:55 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

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brown eyed girl

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Hi Bob F...I just listened to "Airing of Grievances" by your daughter Rose Ann Fino. imagezulu walked by and I asked him if he liked her voice as he can't stand Levon's.......yikes! He likes her singing Bob! Also, please thank her for me.....She reminded me that I shouldn't comment on whether someone smiles very much......

"At shows I always say, “this is about throwing away my meds,” because for me that’s what worked, but that’s not for everyone, it’s about finding what works for you and finding the people in life who will love you just the way you are and never ask you to smile or make you feel embarrassed for having depression.”.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 14:54:46 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eye girl

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Like That Richard Manuel Song


Entered at Tue Nov 1 14:49:52 CET 2016 from (174.91.166.232)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

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Just Like That Richard Manuel Song...Fort Shame

Double Wide recording composed by Todd May.
2012
1:44....whispering pines

Hi Kevin. Sometimes I just like silly lyrics whether Dylan delivers them or Louuuu. Were you here when we talked about Slow Train Coming a long time ago? If not.....It was the first time I posted.....You can call me Angelina, Angie, Ange, Angeline..... I keep my family name private. As for "Don't Fall Apart On Me Tonight"....I was trying to find Knopfler with Dylan online. I only ended up with Dylan and Mark joined by Marely's rhythm section and Mick Taylor. I was disappointed that you can't really hear Mick playing sliiiiide or Mark for that matter? What do you think Kevin? Bob didn't want the real guitarists to show him up? Does it even matter? There's room for everyone to shine.....such a lost opportunity for that song to really be amazing.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 14:02:09 CET 2016 from (83.249.132.119)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Are Bob Dylan's song texts literature?

On a serious side (written by a drop-out from PhD courses in literature science, the subject was the impact of American rock lyrics to Finnish rock lyrics.): - My question and answer: Are Bob Dylan's song texts literature?

The short answer is "yes". To keep this short I don't start with Homeros, I jump over Dante's and Petrarca's individualistic poetry written in the language of ordinary people, the Elisabethian theatry in England (Marlowe, Ben Jonson), poetry of The English Romantic period (Blake, Coleridge, Wordsworth). No, I go directly to 19th Century Finnish nationalism and how it can be found in Finnish literature and classical music.

(JBILL M and JRAGTIME. You may scroll now because you know this already.)

Poems were sang in the willderness for centuries. They were still sang in the frontier country between Russia and Sweden in the 19th Century. No-one had been written this poetry down. It was before Mr. Gutenberg, you know. A man called Elias Lonnrot walked from a village to a village and gathered these songs. What happened then was excactly what Mr. Dylan did: he gave them a meaning, he build a story around them, he made them to a collective history of people. BTW It is called for Kalevala. He wrote a few lines by himself to make it to a complete story. Just like Mr. Dylan would write how "Hollis Brown meets Ruben Carter".

This type of literature is still a part of literature teaching in Finnish schools. Mr. Lonnrot is a celebrated hero. It is OK that Mr. Dylan got the prize, in my mind.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 14:00:30 CET 2016 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE/PA, USA

Subject: massey hall

Enjoyed that Massey Hall vid. Not a period when I was following His Bobness closely but I did have Slow Train and used to play it on the college radio. Thanks for identifying Fred Tackett as the guitar player. I rewound several times to try to catch his name but could not get it. Fred is, indeed, a tasty player but I had heard he had an aversion to touring which is why he was not in the road version of the Feat, but appears on many of their albums. Maybe as living got cleaner on the road (and presumably would have been on Bob's Gospel tour) he managed it.

Last night was Trick or Treat here in our neck of the woods. Did all the usual prep, candles, witch hats, purple wig, lights on the porch, Dead Can Dance on the stereo...and for the first hour and more...nothing. Scary clown paranoia? Just about to fold up shop and some traffic surfaced. Still, a much lower turnout than the previous years, on a beautiful cool evening, no less. Is it fear or diversion to organized 'safe' events like church sponsored 'trunk and treats'. Kind of took the fun out of it.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 08:42:42 CET 2016 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: copyright

As you mentioned the copyright link, someone jus contacted me to say the whole of my best-selling book (just out of print) is on a blogspot from Google. Just issued a take down notice, but it takes ages, and they just pop up again.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 07:48:50 CET 2016 from (24.114.74.163)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Don't Fall Apart on me Tonight

Brown eyed girl....... A truly awful version of a song that was great on the Infidels album.......not at all in that link......

"What about that millionaire with the drumsticks in his pants?/ He looked so baffled and bewildered/ When he played and we didn't dance."........that lyric cuts to the bone about so much of what Dylan is about.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 07:34:35 CET 2016 from (24.114.74.163)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: No........Stephen King is not eligible for the RRHOF !

For the Margaret Atwood's and Irvine Welch's of the world and all the other Mr. Jones.......ah.....no, those "Gotta Serve Somebody" lyrics from the GB's brown eyed girl were not what your Swedish friends were looking at when deciding on the Award.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 07:32:42 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.70)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

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Subject: Google Waging War on Creators , Copyright Holders, & Copyright.

Read this, it's fucking scary. Getting the creator oriented Registrar Of Copyrights removed for doing her job.


Entered at Tue Nov 1 07:05:29 CET 2016 from (173.3.49.70)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Vivino Brothers return, this Wed night in NYC.

Anyone in or around Manhattan, Wednesday night. Jimmy Vivino, Jerry Vivino, Mike Merritt, James Wormworth, Brian Charette, and god only knows who else might show, take over the 55 Bar for the night. Music starts around 9:30. I've no idea what the cover is, but i bet it's low 5 - 10 bucks ( these guys don't need the money, & this is one they're doing for love of being back home in front of thirty to forty year long loyal fans).. Whatever it is, it's worth triple to ten times as much. And 55 Bar is a great hang, drinks are rather reasonable by NYC standards. Conan is taping in NYC this week so they're back home for a bit, the whole Basic Cable band appears Tuesday night at The Cutting Room as part of a send off to pianist Paul Tillotson, who died young earlier this year.

While we're on the subject, Danny Draher brings his trio in to the Bitter End Thursday night for a 90 minute set, beginning round 10 PM. Danny is oen of the best blues guitarists anywhere, his organ player is a badass, as is every drummer in his bag of hundreds


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