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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, May 2009


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Lennon in Toronto

Article from today's Sunday Times Magazine on the 14 year old who blagged his way into John & Yoko's room in Toronto.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Too funny

It gets "better" as it goes on. If I was a Native American I would protest.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: Lennon/McCartney - why they clicked?

I think John and Paul were so in synch with one another when they began writing together in part because they both lost their mothers when they were teens. A devastating loss like that can forge a strong bond -- deeper than you can imagine. Seems like it often brings out the artist in a kid. The pain's gotta ooze out somewhere.... Plus they were a kinda musically talented too.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Tough music artist contest...winner wins a t'shirt.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Alexis P. Suter on the radio tonight.

From Alexis' "Myspace" blog page:

Alexis P. Suter on "Mountain of Blues" Radio with host Michael Cloeren.

Sunday, May 31st @ 9:00 PM.

Sunday nights from 9pm to Midnight Eastern time Mountain of Blues may be heard on terrestrial radio at 102.3 fm The Mountain (entercom wilkes-barre/scranton) and is also Streaming at www.102themountain.com.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Springsteen Pinkpop 2009

Bruce Springsteen singing in front of a beautiful sundown, yesterday evening live at Pinkpop 2009 The Netherlands.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

The great Carl Radle in his mid-60's pop days. BB, he officially died of cirrhosis, but the talk was he died of a broken heart when EC fired him.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Carl Radle

Carl Radle had quite a history with Clapton. They started playing together in the Delaney&Bonnie days, through the Derek&Domino's period(as Mike said), & he continued to tour&record with Clapton throughout the late 70's, possibly into the early 80's. My recollection is that he committed suicide shortly after he&Jamie Oldaker were dismissed when Clapton wanted to change his sound. Again, this is the way I recall it, around the time of the album titled August.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Knockin' On Heavens: Ron Wood safes Dylan?

At 2.38 Ron Wood points Dylan to the mic, would Dylan have made it on his own?

p.s. Springsteen is in Holland now.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Comments...

BOB W: Thanx for the link to Bo Diddley tribute by ROBBIE and Eric Clapton. That ROBBIE is still the best.

Antiques Road Show had a 1965 poster/painting of Joan Baez and Bob Dylan worth $12-$15,000.Wow, some price.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Claire

Steve, I think you just disproved your theory.


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Posted by:

Steve

Claire, I usually remember the important stuff. I was a little non committal when I used, second child, but I think I remember you saying it was a girl. Hope I didn't blow my, memory credibility, with that.

For some reason I seem to remember people's personal stories more than anything else I read here. But as I've explained before the more you retrieve memories and then return them to storage the less accurate the details become. For instance I remember JG's story about a sandwich shop across the street from where she worked which included a knife blade or part of a knife blade but the original story has blurred because I once tried to remember what part the knife actually played. I think it was a piece of a knife blade in a sandwich. Maybe I should have qut when I was ahead.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Remembering Carl Dean Radle today...

Carl passed away from kidney disease 29-yrs ago today @ the age of 37. He was the bassist for "Derek & The Dominoes" & performing in "The Last Waltz."


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Levon & Butch to again participate in today's New Paltz, NY's wonderful annual Memorial Day parade today. Wish we could be there.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Stealing and posting other people's emails

I am planning a trip across the Atlantic and giving a big friendly Finnish hug to you could make my day.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Hey, Bo Diddley.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Bo Diddley

Thought this interesting. Tried to find a web page, but couldn't. This came in my inbox news [which is private]

BO DIDDLEY... A year after his death, Bo Diddley in new spotlight Module body DETROIT (Billboard) - Bo is gone. But his beat goes on. It's been a year since Bo Diddley died of heart failure at age 79 in his home in Archer, Fla., after a prolonged illness. His June 2, 2008, passing ended one of the most influential careers in pop music history, a 54-year run during which the man born Ellas Otha Bates earned the rightful title of the Originator as he helped merge blues into rock 'n' roll. On such hits as "Bo Diddley," "Hey Bo Diddley," "Say Man" and "Who Do You Love," Diddley created a staccato, second-line-style beat that became an intrinsic part of rock's foundation. Diddley's array of inventions included his trademark, square-shaped Gretsch guitar (three models of which are now manufactured by Fender) and a variety of effects that are commonplace today. In the wake of his passing, those who guided his career now want to ensure that Diddley's legacy remains vital and potent. Leading this effort are Margot Lewis and Faith Fusillo of Talent Source. Lewis had been Diddley's agent since the early '80s and became his manager in 1992. Fusillo stepped up at that time as Diddley's business manager. The two oversee an estate that includes four children, 15 grandchildren, 15 great-grandchildren and three great-great-grandchildren. "We want to perpetuate his legacy and make sure he gets his due in the world of popular music and popular culture," Fusillo says. "We really believe (Diddley) is an American original, just like Marilyn Monroe or James Dean. I don't think he got that due during his lifetime. So we're exploring all kinds of ways to take (Diddley) into the 21st century. He's still so well-thought-of today, we need to make sure that 50 years from now he's still considered an American icon." UNRELEASED MUSIC Lewis and Fusillo are working with strategic partners -- primarily the New York-based publishing and marketing firm Primary Wave Music, and also Universal Music Enterprises (UMe), which owns much of Diddley's recorded catalog -- on an array of projects, including exposure for some 200 reels of unreleased and largely unheard Diddley recordings. "Bo is such an icon," Primary Wave chief marketing officer Adam Lowenberg says, "but we feel that he is under-represented, and there's so much meat on the table." A new Web site, BoDiddley.com, will serve as a major portal through which fans will be able to buy new Diddley product, including an extensive merchandise line that's in development. Fusillo says there also will be items bearing the "Bo Knows" image from Diddley's portion of the late-'80s Nike ad campaign that featured dual-sport professional athlete Bo Jackson. A future part of the Web site will be a USB drive that Lowenberg says fans will be able to use to receive new musical offerings and other exclusive content. Available now, however, is a Diddley Collector's Pack on iTunes featuring the artist's hits and an exclusive unreleased track -- a frenetic jam recorded in the '70s and featuring "Bo going crazy on the guitar for about 10 minutes. It's unbelievable, vintage Bo. When we first heard it, we almost started to cry," Fusillo says. Talent Source and Primary Wave are hoping that will be the first of many new offerings to come from what Fusillo calls Diddley's "basement tapes." She and Lewis are combing through them, transferring tapes to digital formats, cataloging and copyrighting material that ranges from nascent riffs and ideas to full songs in a variety of genres. "They're sitting on so much music ... boxes and boxes of stuff," Lowenberg says. "We are very confident that there is a great deal of unreleased music ... that's going to come into play later on down the line." He expects to introduce a line of Diddley ringtones and plans to market the music for sampling. He'd also like to "put an album together that takes today's stars and people who have been influenced by Bo over the years and give them some of these snippets and beats and (guitar) lines and have them craft songs around them." ZZ Top guitarist Billy Gibbons, who with Diddley co-designed a special "Billy-Bo" guitar for Gretsch, is among the artists who would certainly have an appetite for that. "We've played Bo Diddley music all these years. It would be an honor to have any role whatsoever in creating new Bo Diddley music," he says. Talent Source also has a video of Diddley's last major concert performance -- at Australia's Byron Bay Festival in 2007, two weeks before he suffered a stroke -- that will come out on DVD, possibly before the end of the year. UMe, meanwhile, is preparing for the June 9 release of "Ride On/The Chess Masters 1960-1961." The set boasts 16 unreleased tracks and rarities, including recordings Diddley made at his home studio. Primary Wave, Talent Source sister company Talent Consultants International and the Diddley estate also hope to stage a tribute concert, most likely for the second anniversary of his death, in 2010, which will probably yield a companion album and DVD. Lowenberg says the company "will certainly reach out to all of Bo's biggest (musician) fans and people he influenced the most in the music community." A documentary about Diddley is under discussion and a coffee-table book featuring photos from throughout his career is planned. "It's not just about raising a bunch of money for the estate," Lewis says. "We just want to spread the word and make people aware of who Bo Diddley was in the history of music. He was such an important figure and made so many important contributions that we still hear today. We have to make sure that people know who Bob Diddley was ... forever."

Cya soon xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Reeperbahn Ringo

Serenity -

"Starr, at the time drummer with another English band."

That would be Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. As far as I know, unfortunately, there are no recordings (official, or erm, 'unofficial') of Ringo with Rory.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Beatles

KEVIN: Right you are.

Speaking of the Beatles, just rec'd a bit of news in my inbox.

BERLIN (AFP) - A new museum dedicated to the Beatles opened in Hamburg on Friday, 49 years since the band, at that time a five-piece with no Ringo Starr, first played in a run-down strip club in the German city. The museum, called Beatlemania, includes five floors of artefacts and interactive exhibits and is in the same seedy Reeperbahn area of Hamburg where the band appeared on five separate occasions between 1960 and 1962. The Beatles -- at that time John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Stuart Sutcliffe and Pete Best -- first took the stage at the Indra club on August 17, 1960. The band would belt out rock'n'roll covers for hours on end in four different Hamburg clubs, an experience credited with creating the foundations for their prodigious talent that would later make them world-famous. It was also in Hamburg that the band first performed with Starr, at the time drummer with another English band. "When there were the four of us with Ringo, it always felt rockin'," Harrison would recall later.

Cya soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Claire

Steve, what a remarkable memory you have. Impressive.


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Posted by:

Steve

Claire, I'm sure that anytime you see a reference to The Beatles on Sullivan you think, yes, Ed brought the Beatles to America but I brought child number two ( if my memory serves me well)to the US of A without destroying rock and roll.

Kevin.......?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Serenity

Once great producer would be more accurate.....


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Posted by:

Serenity

Too bad about this once great person.

After being found guilty at his second trial for the February 2003 murder of actress Lana Clarkson, legendary producer Phil Spector was sentenced to 19 years to life in prison today by Judge Larry Fidler, the Los Angeles Times reports. The conviction carried a minimum 15 years-to-life sentence, plus an additional four years for criminal use of a firearm. For Spector, the Clarkson family and the Los Angeles District Attorney Office, the sentencing marked the end of a legal drama that stretched six years and two trials.

Ceeya xoxoxo



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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: U.S. Grant in Cairo

I was reminded that one of Ulysses S. Grant's first commands in the Civil War, after being commissioned as a brigadier general, was at the District of Cairo, headquartered in that strategic Illinois town. His wife's family was from nearby Missouri, where he had tried his hand unsuccessfully as a dirt farmer after the Mexican War.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: Check out these photos, and see how many you can guess before checking out the names at the bottom of the pic. Some may surprise you. I liked Neil Youngs'. Have fun.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Claire

Web: My link

Subject: How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'n' Roll

A new book with an interesting twist. The website links to a treasure trove of musical history.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Fabs cont...

….and to think that their guitar player was a pretty fair writer in his own right…….amazing how the stars aligned to put those guys together….


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, I always think of the question posed by, Dave Van Ronk, in No Direction Home, " Does he have anything to say", when thinking about songwriters. After checking through the songs written by each I think Lennon probably had more, interesting and provocative things to say. This of course doesn't take anything away from Sir Paul and the incredible list of great songs to his credit. Like everything in life it comes down to what tickles your fancy.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Beatles

When I was first really getting into music as a kid - early to mid 70’s - McCartney was doing Wings and Lennon was just about to head into that 5 year seclusion. An early music teacher told me “McCartney wrote all the fluffy ones and Lennon wrote the cool ones”…..it wasn’t until Lennon reemerged in 1980 and he gave that great interview with Playboy where he detailed song by song who wrote what that I realized just how extraordinary the partnership was and an even a bigger revelation was just how wrong my impression of Paul McCartney had been for all those years. Lennon was unquestionably the more interesting/deeper person at least as revealed to the public through interviews, but McCartney’s contributions to the Beatles catalogue is staggering.


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Posted by:

Steve

Landy, just asked Marge about the bar in Rouses Point. She reminded me that it was an hour long bike ride on Rt 202 which is a curving, secondary highway with small hills and for those reasons never made the ride to the bar with me and our other friends who were willing to risk their lives for a couple of beers and a live local band. She also reminded me that the last time I spoke to our friend who still lives in the area was about 7 years ago. Time flies! Maybe the bar isn't there anymore after all. It was a big red wooden building near the fire hall.


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Posted by:

Steve

Just finished reading , Lennon Remembers, what a read! Near the end I felt at times as I was reading Lennon's thoughts that they seemed to be constructed in the same manner as the calliope effect was in , For The Benefit Of Mr Kite. You get a certain swirling almost dizzying feeling with Yoko playing the part of Geoff Emerick.

After reading the book, I have a much better feel for the effect she must have had on the Beatles at the time.

I gotta put this segment from the book here since it's a great example of the main, recurring state of mind expressed in the interview. It's about their first meeting with Allen Klein in a hotel room.

John: He called me once at the house, I think in Kenwood. I didn't take it, I was too nervous. I don't like talking to strangers as it is, but strangers want to talk about reality, so I didn't accept the call. Finally I did accept his call, or did I put a call through to him? ...... and then we met, and it was very traumatic.

Jann: In what way?

John: Well, cause we were both very nervous. He was nervous as shit, and Yoko was as nervous as him. We met at The Dorchester, we went up to his room and I--

Yoko: We were so nervous--

John: I just went in and he was sitting there all nervous, and he was all alone. He didn't have any of his helpers around, because he didn't want to do anything like that. But he was very nervous, you could see it in his face. So I felt better.

One thing I did come away with from the book is that I now realize most of my favorite Beatle songs were mostly John's or strongly influenced by him.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Gene, Hood also seemed good at divisional level, but he was an intriguing (in the bad way) and insubordinate corps commander. I believe the laudanum story has been disproved as it came from one unreliable source and repeated ad infinitum. However, having a leg removed and an arm disabled is bound to effect your battlefield performance. He was also unlucky in love.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: Nat'l Library of Congress

Peter,

You forgot the Band connection for Umm Kulthum: Bob Dylan has been quoted as saying, "She's great. She really is. Really great."

Or were you getting to that part, and now I've stolen your thunder?

J.F.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: World changing event, Sadavid

Sadavid....I saw this last week as a news story. Like other such events in fictional 'writing', I predict it will end up being 'a dream' and will not be a 'real' event. They will keep the world order intact ultimately. We shall see. But as Dylan says, "Its All Good."


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: end of an era

Sometimes, you get some news and you know instantly that the world has changed in a fundamental way. See [My link].


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Subject: Steve Martin Concert Review

For those interested - the comic/actor/writer Steve Martin performed in NYC. The link is to the review.


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Posted by:

Steve

Landy, Sandy's doesn't ring a bell. I'll ask Marge later.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: JB Hood

Hood was very effective commanding the Texas Brigade, Pat. He certainly was promoted above his competency, though. Laudanum probably was a factor, too.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Cairo was the home of Umm Kulthum, the songwriter and actress, known as “Star of the East”, who died on February 3rd 1975 in Cairo, twenty-seven years after Buddy Holly.


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Posted by:

sverge

JUst here to support this website and keep it going. It is one of the most comprehensive music sites available. The music speaks for itself


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Posted by:

Pat B

Gene, I'd include Atlanta and Nashville as places where General Hood was less than welcome, especially after his memoirs were published. He blamed his troops for his losses, claiming they had lost their nerve for the attack. However, it is somewhat mitigated in that Hood was an officer who actually led troops in battle. Others become Soviet Union experts and decry their superiors.


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Posted by:

Mike

Just watchin' "VH1 Classic" & the "Woodstock" flick. Wonder who ended up w/ Pete Townshend's guitar he threw into the crowd?


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Posted by:

bob w.

Self appointed genius (that's you Steve, just in case you fan on that one too), the fact that Lt. Col. Ralph Peters (Ret.) is allowed to say what he said in his op-ed is quintessentially American. As is the right to agree or disagree. Your backpedaling here today has been a sorry display. How about you get in some PBS time and maybe come back here to break the global warming story for us? You really should track down the guy who sold you that "Smart and Funny" package and demand a refund.

The next point you actually get will be a very lonely one.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

And I can definitely assure everyone that I wasn't around at that time either.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Steve, I'll take a guess and say Sandy's. We just go through Rouses to cross the bridge into Vermont when we go to the Champlain Islands which is one of the prettiest and relatively unknown places to visit. There are still people who go looking for the balance of loot from the St. Albans raid in and around the border. If my memory serves me right, didn't the raiders all get tried in Canada and then acquitted?


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Confederates Gernerals shy of 35

Interesting post, Lars. I believe that Full General (4 *) John Bell Hood was also on the good side of 35 when he was paroled from the Confederacy on 31 May 1865. Probably a cause of concern for the casting of Levon as this 'character.' Best not to mention the name, "Hood" anywhere near Franklin, TN


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Posted by:

Steve

Careful Pat, you're risking being branded Anti-American.

Landy, there's also a nice little bar in Rouse's Point that has live music, it's name escapes me at the moment. We used to bike there when we lived on the border near Hemmingford. Even though I haven't been there in 25 year a friend who still lives there mentioned that it was still open and pretty much as it was 25 years ago.

While we're talking Northern Vermont, as in The St. Albans raid, those Southern bank robbers actually did travel a little further north than St. Albans. They returned to Montreal after the raid where they were arrested. The money they had on them was returned to the town of St Albans.

By the way, thanks for leaving the Rock Island connection for me to make. Rock Island is about 70 miles east of St. Albans.

Pat I actually heard the mayor of Cairo being interviewed a couple of months back . I remember him talking about the poor shape of the town's economy but I don't remember the exact reason for the interview. Does it have a river port or something that might be closing because of the economy?

David, I can't spend enough time in front of a screen to dig deeper. I just have time to serve and then volley, not enough time to research the history of tennis. I count on people like you to take up the quest. Much appreciated the info on the movie and Mr. Gibney.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Henry Townsend was from Cairo.Ran away from home at a real young age, maybe 8 , 9 or 10 years old, to avoid catching a beating from his pa.Hopped a train, Made it up to st Louis wehre he stayed.
One of the songs asociated`with him was Cairo Blues. Been`a long day, and far from over, Im running back out, so I can't look, but i'm not recallign if it was Henry Spaulding's `Cairo Blues, or if they both wrote separate songs named Cairo Blues.

But Cairo was rough town at a time, and southern illinois wasa a rough place in general. Musically, when performing the blues was a way of living and traveling around for these guys, places like Cairo were on the map.


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Posted by:

Pat B

I ran across this interesting quote from Lt. Col. Ralph Peters (Ret.), the author of Brian Sz's recent link:

Pretending to be impartial, the self-segregating personalities drawn to media careers overwhelmingly take a side, and that side is rarely ours. Although it seems unthinkable now, future wars may require censorship, news blackouts and, ultimately, military attacks on the partisan media.

Reminds me of another railroad man, George McClellan, who also considered himself far above the rule of law only to prove himself an insubordinate goof-ball.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Americana

Above link is 2 minutes of Rock n Roll heaven.....first hearing it made me want to visist all these spots....


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woodsa

Subject: Americana

This is not Band related, but goes along with some of the post Civil War entries of today.

Before the Civil War, Tom Rosser of Virginia had a good friend at West Point that everybody affectionately called "Fanny" (George Armstrong Custer). When the War Between the States broke out, Rosser fought for the gray and Custer fought for the blue. They both became generals in the cavalry and fate brought them together on many different battlefields. Rosser survived a number of wounds and Custer became famous for going into battle and somehow extricating himself from any situation. After the war Custer stayed in the regular Army and Rosser found work with the Union Pacific Railroad.

In 1873 their paths crossed in Montana. Rosser and Custer shook hands as if they had never been enemies. They spent the evening talking of battles fought years before and the times they had captured each other's uniforms in their surprise raids. At some point during the evening, the two former generals realized that they weren't that far removed from their earlier days at the Academy. Both of them were shy of 35 years of age and were still, at heart, boyhood friends from West Point.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I went to Memphis on a lovely liquor laden junket to tour the Fedex facilities at the airport. Never left the airport. Spent 12 hours watching the Fedex system in operation. Quite impressive. The food and liquor were also impressive.


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Posted by:

ruse

Web: My link

Sad-eyed ladies..


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: I've actually even been to Tennessee, but the Knoxville side - part of a university field trip of TVA projects in the mid '70s. Because of the rules limiting the number of hours a bus driver can spend at the wheel, we had to spend the night on the way down in downtown Toledo. A bunch of us asked a couple of passing women where we'd go to find anything happening; they said we had the wrong city. That was mostly right, as I ended up at a Harvey's - though a bunch of the others found a place with a bellydancer. The ringleader of that more successful group was from - wait for it - Cairo! (Though the original one.)


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Virgil, quick come see, there goes the Effie Afton...

Bill M: I guess the legal precedent was that it was the first railroad bridge across the Mississippi and the riverboat captains didn't like the idea of having to navigate around additional, man-made, obstructions. More significantly for the railroads and America, was spanning the river to link the rail lines of the East with those in the West. The name of the steamboat that was involved in the accident was the Effie Afton.

Another link is George Stoneman, who before being elected governor of California in 1882, served a the state's railroad commissioner. Ironically, the cavalry officer who once tore up railroad tracks, was put in charge of overseeing them some two decades later.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Nor was I around at that time either.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I have only visited the site of the famous St. Albans raid which is noted as the Confederacy's most northernmost "incursion". There is however a fort on Lake Champlain outside of Rouse's Point N.Y. that I'd like to visit but I believe is closed to all. If memory serves me right, I believe it is called Fort Montgomery but referred to as "Montgomery's folly".


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Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M/David P, the river road from Cairo to Memphis is quite beautiful and interesting. There are a number of old Civil War forts along the Mississippi and lots of lovely scenery. The former location of Belmont, Missouri (the town is long gone) is the site of US Grant's first battle.

Rock Island had a large Confederate POW camp during the Woah, and today a Confederate cemetery sits right next to a huge National cemetery.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the night they sued ol' dixie down ...

David P: Boat hits bridge and sues bridge for being in the way - sounds very 21st century. (Virgil Caine is the name and I worked on the Danville case / Till Stoneman's law firm came and rousted us out of the place ...)


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Thanks for the confirmation David.


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Posted by:

bob w.

It might be wise to run all of this "Americana" by our newly self-appointed expert in all such matters. Once he deems it incorrect go ahead and post with confidence.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Fooled Around & Fell in Cairo

Landmark: You are correct, there is a Cairo (pronounced Kay-ro) in south Georgia. In addition to being the birthplace of many fine atheletes, including Jackie Robinson, it is also the hometown of singer Mickey Thomas, formerly with Elvin Bishop's band and the Jefferson Starship.


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Posted by:

David P.

As Pat pointed out the strategic position of Cairo, the confluence of the two rivers also marked the confluence of the boundaries of two border slave states, Missouri & Kentucky, with the Land of Lincoln. The Mississippi was an important supply line for both the Union & the Confederacy.

The Rock Island was a mighty good railroad line that provided a link from Chicago to the Mississippi River. Before he was elected president, Abraham Lincoln gained some fame as a lawyer when he successfully defended the RI Line in a lawsuit brought by the owners of a riverboat that had collided with one of the railway's bridge supports.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Not that I was around at the time.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

David, isn't there a Cairo Georgia as well? If memory serves me well, Jackie Robinson was born there.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Thanks for the description. You know, it made me realise that I've never in my life stood at the confluence of any two big rivers. Must find a way of remedying that ...

David P and Steve: Speaking of Homework, I bumped into guitarist / recording engineer George Semkiw at the Blackburn concert on Tuesday. His finest moment as a guitarist was when his group, Ritchie Knight and the Mid-Knights covered that Otis Rush classic, featuring laudable stinging sub-Robbie guitar work from George. Nice organ work too, though Richard Bell's arrival was a almost a year away.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Cairo, Illinois is the southernmost town in our fine state. It is the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers, quite a thrilling spectacle when you stand there and feel the ground rumbling under your feet. During the Civil War it was a huge Federal supply depot but these days it is about as hang-dog as a town can get. btw, Cairo is further south than Richmond, Virginia.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

In addition to being the home of Martin Guitars Nazareth, Pennsylvania was once home to Nazareth Speedway and is still home to the famous Andretti family.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: so much to learn, so little time ...

Thanks Joan, sadavid and David P for your answers re Cairo Illinois, each with different tidbits. Is Ackles' Rock Island the one of "Rock Island Line" fame, and if so, does that have anything to do with some slave/non-slave state line? Also, wouldn't heading down the Mississippi be the wrong thing to do to avoid slavery? And, what does it say about Scranton, pressing plant or not, if pulling into Nazareth means you're both half-past dead and half-way to Scranton?


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Posted by:

David P.

Steve, Steve: If you'd done your homework, you might be surprised that Mr. Gibney got part of the inspiration for the film after reading a New York Times article about Bagram in 2006. The reporter who wrote the article, Tim Golden, appeared in Mr. Gibney's documentary.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Songography

Yes it would be Cairo, Illinois, as David Ackles was from Rock Island. Following the Mississippi, Cairo is "Down River" (another Ackles song) from Rock Island.

Over in Pennsylvania, if you pulled into Nazareth (home of the Martin Guitar factory) on the road from Philadelphia, you'd be about half-way to Scranton, where many LP versions of "Music From Big Pink" were manufactured.


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Posted by:

Steve

Sorry ,David, not much time to play duck dodge and hide with you at the moment. But the one obvious draw back to depending on small budget documentaries to add some balance to "reporting" is that like this excellent film they're not very helpful in day to day news coverage since they don't get released til years later but if they're the only thing you've got, go with it. And I'm guessing in this case you probably wouldn't have known of the film without your personal news service, SNS. Nice Band connection though.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: Cairo

Bill M: too long since I've read it, but from memory Cairo, Illinois is where Huck and Jim were headed as their raft boomed down Ol' Miss in the middle of the night. I think Cairo marked the boundary with a non-slaveholding state where Jim could become a man rather than a chattel. I also think they missed it, as they had no GPS. Uncle Wiki tells me there is a St Joseph in Illinois.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Road to Cairo

There is a Cairo Illinois. The folks around there pronounce it karo (long A) like the syrup I believe it is down south in the state near the Mississippi.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Scranton is the home of Dunder-Mifflin.

I hope that release of the "Live at O'Tooles Tavern" is of decent sound quality. The bootleg I own is not.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Road to Cairo - which Cairo?

Following Kevin's link, I was reminded to check out David Ackles "Road To Cairo" (see link), which was mentioned last week. Struck me immediately as something like "The Weight" in reverse. It seems to be about some US Cairo, down the road from St Joe (or Joe's). Maybe there's one in Pennsylvania between Nazareth and Scranton? I'm sure one of you knows ...

Was disappointed to see there's no "American Gothic" on YouTube.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: 30,000 lbs of.....

Scranton namedropped in a song........above link


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: Also of interest to Band fans, particularly those who collect vinyl, is that Capitol Records for many years operated a pressing plant in Scranton, Pa.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I've never been to Scranton, and for all I know it's the loveliest place in the entire US NE. However, its name was used in vain so often in the TV shows of my youth that I have to think of a "Live in Scranton" album as an attempt at archness, either by late '70s punks like the Dead Boys or in something like Spinal Tap - in which case it'd be another incidence of life imitating art.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Rick Danko CD's

Check out the "What's New" section of this website for news on new CD releases from Rick and Richard - good news to have these shows in an official release!

Helpless???? I guess mentioning Ontario swayed some voters - not an obvious choice for a record breaking guitar jam.....


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Posted by:

David P.

Steve: Once again I find it hard to follow your line of thinking. A documentary film, like the one you cited, is indeed a form of journalism. Muddy Waters was one of the greatest blues musicians. If there's a Band connection in all of this, it's that Alex Gibney also worked with Martin Scorsese on "The Blues" documentary series.


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Posted by:

bob w.

"Almost questionable"?


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Posted by:

Steve

David, you're muddying the waters a little flipping from media to free press like they are completely interchangeable terms. Independent documentaries as part of the free press is interesting. I've never heard anyone include small budget, independent, documentaries as part of the free press. Newspapers, TV, radio and their internet sites and magazines being the accepted free press. Maybe in the US you have to include independent documentaries to get a balanced view, if so I can understand your including them, the problem being that not many people will ever get that side of the picture.

While it's encouraging that there are some voices in the wilderness it hardly meets the definition of free and balanced media reporting which of course is necessary for the long term health of a well functioning democracy, the kind that doesn't end up with a disgrace to democracy like W and Cheney, twice, as President and VP.

By the way, I recognize an op-ed when I see one which is why I didn't refer to it as reporting or Peters as a reporter, but did call him a journalist but I guess that's almost questionable as well. Since you read the piece, what did you think of it?


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: All you wonderful guys & Neil Young.

DAVID P,JOAN, FRIENDO: Thanx for the responses. Makes me feel wanted.

MIKE: Thanx to you too, and for the facebook link. I'm on there too. Seems a lot of people are.

GENE: Thanx. I have so much to do that the lists may be a thing of the past. The passings were the most interesting, as well as the history, so may do them [the passings] again. Glad they were appreciated. Means a lot.

KRISTIE: Have a good time in the mountains, and watch out for the biting bugs and snakes.

SEBASTIAN: So glad to hear your dad gave up smoking. God bless him. I gave it up a lond time ago, and feel better for it too. I had a sister die from lung cancer and her hubby in serious condition with emphesema, both caused from smoking. Not worth the risk for this very bad habit.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo

Here is an item I rec'd in my inbox today. Loved Neil's version and kd lang's too.

TORONTO - Neil Young's "Helpless" has been named the Great Canadian Tune after an online poll conducted by Toronto arts festival Luminato.

"Helpless" topped nine other Canadian guitar-driven tracks, with 3,701 votes from a total of 19,217.

Now, Luminato organizers are inviting the public to perform the song in unison at the city's Yonge-Dundas Square.

The goal is to break the Guinness World Record for the world's largest guitar ensemble, currently held by a town in Germany that saw 1,802 guitarists assemble to perform Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water" in 2007.

The effort will take place on June 6 at 4 p.m. ET, with registration beginning two hours earlier.



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Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Cleaned and Pressed

David P, thank you.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Terraw

Subject: Brown Electric Dirt Cowboy

Possibly because the press here is all a-twitter about Elton and spouse's new monster home, when I glanced at the little thumbnail album cover to the left I saw the "Captain Fantastic" cover instead of the new Levon.

By the way, I caught the producer of the next thumbnail, Lance Anderson, sitting in most impressively on a couple of James Brown covers last night.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kristie: Enjoy / be well!


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie

Have a wonderful time! I will miss you.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Kristie: Be sure to report on space availability in the mountains…….we are looking to send a few here away for an extended stay at GB Gitmo………but seriously – have fun…..and bring that hat!!!


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Goodbye, for now

I have been away for about a week and am soon to leave to the Mountains, so I don't have time to go back and catch up....I just wanted to say goodbye to everyone and tell you all to have a great summer! I will be back, but am not sure when. Possibly in January. I hope everything remains peaceful. I will be on Facebook checking in, once in awhile, so I may see some of you over there. Thanks for all the great advice, recommendations(Bill M-Still enjoying Kengsington Market), etc. Bye all!

I may check in for the next two days before I leave.


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Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: RR Solo CD

Has there been any additional news latley on the RR Solo work? Will between trains ever be released on CD?


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Posted by:

David P.

Steve: Before you condemn American journalism, you might want to explore the role of the op-ed, as opposed to that of a piece of conventional reporting, in the free press. Lt. Col. (ret.) Peter's opinion was expressed in the context of the former. As you apparently cited the reporting of an American documentary filmmaker as your source of information, you can see that different viewpoints are freely expressed in our media.


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Posted by:

Steve

Web: My link

Subject: Brien It's A Sad Comment On American Journalism

Brien, Peters is a great example of lazy(I'm being kind) mis or uninformed journalists who should be ignored but unfortunately make quite compelling reading for the equally ignorant.

Why don't you do a letter to the editor in response asking what percentage of the Afghan prisoners at Gitmo came off a battlefield and what percentage were sold to US forces for the very lucrative blood money, as much as $5,000 in some cases. Very tempting in a country with virtually no economy. Most of those were sold as Taliban sympathizers or supporters. The vast majority were simply people turning in people from rival clans who were not involved in any way with the Taliban.

Since Peters won't have the info let me give it to you. According to the US military, 7 % of the Afghan prisoners held at Baghram and Gitmo came from the battle fields, 93 % were purchased.

If you'd like to watch a film about the subject the link will take you to Alex Gibney's 2007 documentary film, Taxi To The Dark Side.

Since you probably won't watch it here's the synopsis. A young Afghan taxi driver is stopped by US soldiers and arrested for being a Taliban member. He isn't, but has actually been turned in by a group of Taliban members who the US are looking for after they had killed some American soldiers. They simply pinned it on the taxi driver and collected the money. A win, win situation for them.

Over the course of several weeks he is literally beaten to death by American guards at Baghram. The US military doctor who did the autopsy and listed the cause of death to be murder said that the guy had been so badly beaten much of the muscle in his legs had been torn from the bones and was actually jellied. It was only the skin on his legs that was holding his muscle in. Most of his ribs were broken as well as an arm.Internal organ damage killed him. This wasn't from torture during questioning but done by the guards to amuse themselves.

Mr. Peters and people who think like him wouldn't have a problem with this, I'm sure. Just one less person who in their mind might do them harm. Besides, he was, in their minds, not as human as them. The fact he was an innocent victim wouldn't matter. Thanks for the article, it's good to see where the hatred of "the other" comes from.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kevin/smoking

I'm pretty down on smoking. I was a 2 pack a day smoker 40 years ago. Gave myself asthmatic bronchitis. Nice to know they have developed a delivery system that just gives you the best of the poisons. :)


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: D. A. & Hegedus Pennebaker's webiste.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: D. A. Pennebaker "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Smoking

For years, the thought of not having smoke in a basement type Blues or Jazz club disturbed me….same sort of feelings for Burlesque type establishments…..some environments just seemed right for smoke….this was all conditioning of course but no smoke just always seemed too sterile for me. To this day though…the smokers on the balconies at parties just seem to be the more interesting subset…..not sure why….That all said, it sure is nice to have a quick beer in a bar and return home without smelling like a sewer.

On this subject, anyone check out the E-Cigarette yet? An amazing little contraption that delivers nicotine and a vapour that simulates smoke but without the chemicals and carcinogens. I saw a number of people using them in New York a few weeks ago and recently saw a lady using one in Toronto. There is no smell and the vapour dissipates quickly after being exhaled. It is being promoted as the cigarette that can be “smoked” indoors and on planes!

It was great to see that Ronnie Hawkins party on tv last night and especially nice to see Jeff Healy with a great band. He sure was enjoying himself. Appreciated the heads-up Serenity……..


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Posted by:

George Fanning

Location: Johannesburg South Africa

hi I just wanted to say that I lisyened to your music growing up in a country town in SA people thought I was a bit weird because they only wanted to listen pop music on the radio - we were boarding school kids and did not have a lot of records but I did have a couple of the Bands - if my memory is still good that was in early 70 s. You guys and Bob were great - and your music travelled places you probably never even dreamed of. thanks v much. George


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Reminder

Today is Wednesday. Bridge building can begin at Cozy's, Sherman Oaks California, Jimmy Vivino and The East West Conenction, 9 pm tonight.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: For the Sake of the Song

I have to admit that so far I've been a little disappointed with Steve Earle's Townes Van Zandt tribute, but maybe it will grow on me after further listenings. Perhaps my opinion is clouded by the fact that I've also been enjoying the new Fat Possum double-LP reissue of the Holy Grail, Townes' "Live At The Old Quarter, Houston, Texas".

"Gather up the gold you've found
You fool, it's only moonlight..."


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hi Serenity. Don't be so down on yourself. I think it was only Peter that ran you off that time. Come to think of it I'm surprised your boyfriend Norm didn't kick his ass for you. If Pete gets rough again, maybe Norm comes to your rescue this time. Now remember, Pete is a historian. So as history has proven, maybe not.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Steve. Last week Steve Earle did a live interview performance for WFUV. Realtive his new record of Townes Van Zandt covers. I only caught poart of it As I was in and out the car. While Earle came off sorta pretentious in his own way, he said some very interseting things re Townes. The best thing i heard Earle say was that regarding music, Townes used to say: "There's the blues, and there's zippity doo dah."


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: One more thing I know

Im often wrong... but I'll still get me mate to give me some answers...


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Posted by:

David P.

Peter V: There are probably some examples of such designs used by American labels, but I can't recall any offhand. Such artwork was usually reserved for outer sleeves here.

I mentioned David Ackles last week and after reading the liner notes to the Collector's Choice CD reissue of his eponymous 1968 Elektra debut album I realize there is a Band connection. Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger and The Trinity recorded a cover of Mr. Ackles' "The Road To Cairo" as a follow-up to their more successful cover of "This Wheel's On Fire".


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Steve - here's an op-ed to wet your whistle on. I thought you might enjoy this...,


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dlew: In my searches for designs on singles, I keep picking up Australian and South African ones, thinking, Wow! a different design … then I see a 7 in a triangle (South African mark on 45s) or a "pty." and realize it's Australian. There are quite a few about in the south of England, and I thought it was people moving to the UK, but a dealer in Southampton (where there are lots) say it was a profitable sideline for the stewards on ocean liners in the 50s and 60s, and they'd buy a pile of current 45s in South Africa or Australia and sell them here. I thought it was a bit of a gamble … in a six week sea voyage a "hot" single can get pretty cold.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: For Friend0, Lennon on Jazz vs Blues

Lennon: Blues is better.

Wenner: Because it's simpler?

Lennon: Cause it's real. It's not perverted or thought-- it's not a concept. It is a chair, not a design for a chair or a better chair or a bigger chair or a chair with leather or with design.

It is the first chair, it's chairs for sitting on, not chairs for looking at or being appreciated. You sit on that music.

Hi Serenity.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Center design singles

Hi Peter - I don't think we had them here, except as imports. The only Oz band I can remember having them is AC/DC (who aren't really na Ausralian band anymore)...

I've asked a mate who collects records though - he'll know more than me - will post with report when answer is forthcoming...

I can say, that they were rare here.


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Posted by:

Mike

Serenity: It's always a pleasure to read your posts.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: 45 rpm single / Peter

Peter, leave your 45 rpm project behind. There is a new technic coming. It is like two magnetophone bands but much smaller with a plastic cover. The size is like a cigarrette box. I believe it will be called for C-cassette (C = century, this new technic will last up to one hundred years).

Remember you read it first here in this gb.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Origin of band names...interesting post.

Procol Harem, U2 & others.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Smoking

Smoking. It still amazes me how fast smoking stopped. Even the religiously-dedicated smokers seem to have stopped in the last two years. Now they’re discussing a ban on displaying cigarettes in shops at all. When I was in California about five years ago, I couldn’t believe that smoking was banned so widely (just as it is here now). I contrasted two hotels. One made us sign an agreement at check-in to pay a $100 cleaning charge if we smoked in the room. They were sharply unpleasant when I said ‘We don’t smoke’ and said we had to sign it anyway. The other (in LA) showed us the room, and the bellman said ‘We’re not smoking nazis here … there’s an ashtray on the balcony if you want to smoke out there.’

The liberal in me naturally prefers the latter attitude. The first was a one night stopover in Anaheim and was Disney-owned. When we got to the room I saw a pack of Marlboro on the very high bedhead. I stood on the bed to get it, and saw a row of burn marks and cigarette stubs the entire length of the bedhead. We phoned down and had them come up and see so we wouldn’t get the “cleaning charge”. I jokingly said, ‘So are you going to pay us $100 because someone has smoked in the room?” The desk manager wrung his hands and said, ‘Of course. We’ll take it off your room charge.’ And they did.

Anyway, the huddle of smokers in the rain can be seen outside every office block, and I think many people just gave up. It’s becoming so rare.


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Posted by:

Peter V

A question (basically for David and Bill M, but anyone else please answer!). I’m working on something on 45 rpm single design, and I’m playing around with the rise of the “one off” centre label design. e.g. The Beatles Happy Xmas (War Is Over), had a special design of John morphing into Yoko just for that release (it wasn’t the first). Then prominent EMI artists like T-Rex and Queen got their own centre designs, Virgin Records by 1980 was giving nearly every release its own unique to the release centre label design.

The question is, did that happen in North America (or Australia, Dlew)? I noted that mainly British artists got these on British-owned labels… Dylan, Paul Simon etc never got them on American owned labels. I’m not touching on American designs, but I just wondered in general.


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Subject: As long as his guitar is still a heavy smoker, I'm good...

Does that mean we are gonna get a Nashville Skyline-voiced-like Robbie solo album... wink wink...


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Serenity

I listen. I'm pleased to see you here more often.


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Posted by:

Malvina

I cannot for the life of me imagine Robbie Robertson without a smoke! He seemed connected from the psyche with those things. He used them for everything. He used them as props in photo sessions and everything. I know how difficult it was for me to quit and I had to do it for health reasons. I would assume that he probably did too...


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Serenity

Serenity - I'd love to see your lists again, and, frankly, less of the drivel from the DONKEYS.


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Posted by:

Linda

Subject: Sebastian

Sebastian, on the subject of NLSC, my favorite, favorite, favorite is Hobo Jungle. It touches me everytime I hear it. It amazes me that such a touching story can be told in so few words - I don't know how he does it! Was there something in particular that "inspired" the song? In addition, thank you for your patience and availablity. Your input and insight means a lot.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Huh?!?

Bridge? What bridge? Foundations? Wha'?!? Apparently I missed the memo.

: )


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Posted by:

Friend0

Gawd Dammit Fred, should that be considered building a bridge, or building a foundation? Maybe building a foundation on which a bridge may be built. Jiimmy would get the Nobel Peace Prize if he don't get shot instead.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan "If You Ever Go To Houston" vid from May 5th in Dublin.

Our friend Mary Wogan of Ireland, who operates the very cool blog "Visions of Dylan" & quickly become a fan of "The Band," posted a "youtube.com" vid from the May 5th Dylan performance she attended in Dublin.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: NON SMOKER

Odd question, but yes my dad has quit smoking. I'll be back with the question about Garth and mixing on NLSC...


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Posted by:

David P.

Serenity: I always pay attention to your posts.

Bill M: Please excuse my wanderings, for as Bloomsday approaches next month, I find I'm delving a little too much into the world of James Joyce.

Happy Birthday Levon!


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Posted by:

Soren

Subject: Backyard Version of :The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down"

Here is a video of a Backyard Jam in Vancouver with a great version of "House of the Rising Sun" and "The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down" My daughter is the little Harmonica player. Here is the Youtube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS5QATnWuz4


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Ronnie Hawkins, Jake Dylan

Hi Guys: Not that anyone here pays attention to my posts anymore, but thought I would pass along this info on Canadian TV this week.

BRAVO: 9PM: Ronnie Hawkins" 60th Birthday Concert tonight.

Friday on Elvis Coatello, one of his guests will be Jacob Dylan.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Those Vico quotes ARE amusing in their way, for some reason reminding me of Steve Martin in one of his early TV specials, saying something like "I know everything there is to know about women" and then hopping onto the back of a tortoise.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Rock & Roll Guru"

With this being Levon's b'day, Joe Heuer featured both Jan's "The Band" website & our "Plochmann Lane" blog on his "Rock & Roll Guru" blog. Thanks, Joe!


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Posted by:

Steve

Did Vico take heroin and LSD consumption into account in his calculation.

Kevin good thing you got the, here, there and everywhere thing, I wasn't looking forward to explaining quantum physics as I understand it, or NOT.

I guess I'll keep introducing bits and pieces of, Lennon Remembers, as I read it. It's so damn provocative. Hard to imagine the pressures being applied and the tugging in different directions that must have been going on in his life.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: Yes, it was "more", but in "Scienza Nuova (New Science)" Vico also wrote "He who is not pious, cannot be truly wise". Many may disagree with both sentiments. If we don't learn from our mistakes, does history repeat itself?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: more or less, that is the question

David P: You sure Vico didn't say LESS certain?

I always loved the way Rick comes in with such relish on "behind". Me, I suspect he had a thing for behinds - well, female ones anyway.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Lennon's State and Revolution #9 (All hail John & Groucho)...

"If your memory serves you well.."

At the time of the interview(s) was John Lennon's memory of events clouded by his own emotions at the time? Or should we consider Vico's theory that "history cannot be more certain than when he who creates the things also narrates them"? The question was raised in "This Wheel's On Fire" and earlier in:

"You're right from your side
and I'm right from mine
We're just one too many mornings
and a thousand miles be - hind"

(with Rick joining in)

Or should be follow George Harrison's line of thought that "it's all too much"?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve: Of course I did and it was funny.....I was just having fun with your play on "more or less"..... No offence was intended.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, John didn't wait til 1980 to make that point. Here's a quote from the 1970 interview when asked about his press conference in New York to announce the establishment of Apple in which he also made some comments about the Maharishi.

" I don't remember that. Well, what did I say? I don't know. We all say lots of things when we don't know what we're talking about. I'm probably doing it now. I don't know what I said ( about the Maharishi). See everybody takes you up on the words you said the night before. I'm just a guy that people ask, what about this and what about that. I blab off, and some of it makes sense, some of it's bullshit. And some of it's lies,and some of it's God knows what I'm saying. I don't know what I said about Maharishi. All I know is what we said about Apple, which is worse."

That sounds like something Dylan should have said if he really wanted people to stop asking him all those fucking questions in press conferences.

By the way Kevin, did you ever get the"being in more than one place at the same time question from yesterday?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: John Lennon - John Paul Jones

Below is an extract from the great Playboy interview in 1980 …….as you can see Steve, John Lennon was big enough to admit that a lot of what he had said earlier about Paul was not true. A good measure of a man is being able to admit mistakes. I wouldn’t take much stock in what was said in 1970....things were still a bit raw at that point... .

PLAYBOY: When you talk about working together on a single lyric like "We Can Work It Out," it suggests that you and Paul worked a lot more closely than you've admitted in the past. Haven't you said that you wrote most of your songs separately, despite putting both of your names on them?

LENNON: Yeah, I was lying. [Laughs] It was when I felt resentful, so I felt that we did everything apart. But, actually, a lot of the songs we did eyeball to eyeball.

Jerry: You are welcome….JPJ really was a clever guy and as you note - very much underappreciated in Led Zeppelin – at least by outsiders.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Jan Wenner interview was published as a book by Penguin. I have it somewhere, but I have less than accurate recall. I also have the original Rolling Stone magazine.The Beatles were wise to leave the Let It Be film on the shelves. I saw it twice and it's mainly a boring film of a boring squabbling time.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Gravenites does some shows with Chicago Blues Reunion. Couple yeasr back he showed up & performed at a Cabrera Vivino show at The Turning Point in NY. Felix been performing and singing " I was Born In Havana" as long as I can remember.

Sebastian, if you want to see/hear some great rock and roll and blues, just head to Cozy's in Sherman Oaks on a Wednesday night. Jimmy Vivino, Gary Mallaber, Barry Goldberg, Rick Reed, are the nucleus. Your dad and Jimmy together would be great. They call the band The East West Connection.

Fred, now that is what I call building a foundation.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: buried alive in a record collection ...
Web: My link

Richard Bell from Full Tilt (and the Band) and Michael Fonfara from Electric Flag both play on "2B3: The Toronto Sessions". You can find that at the link above, though first you'll see the new Blackburn CD and second you'll see Garth and Maud's "Live at the Wolf".

The Blackburn, which I'm listening to right now, is blues and funk, including a Yonge Street instrumental titled "Back at the Zanzibar", the Zanz being Toronto's longest-running peeler bar a few doors north of Sam's - no doubt somewhere where our guys were known to frequent. Back in the sixties and early '70s a series of tremendously talented organ/drums duos played behind the dancers, among them one led by Bobby Dean. Dean fathered three of the four members of Blackburn but before that a long-standing fixture of the Yonge Street scene, going back to Bobby Dean and the Gems in the '50s.


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Posted by:

Friend0

For those of you who have interest in seeing Poco and /or Richie Furay , both bands are touring extensively. Richie is doing a bunch of shows with Poco and Loggins and Messina, 3 days in a row, in Bethel, Holmdel, NJ, and Long Island.

The resepctive websites are:
www.poconut.com
www.richiefuray.com

Moore Enby, the most recently above lines were a demonstration in the use of the backslash b. :-)

Sebastian, please note, no quotation marks were abused or exploited during the use of the backslash b or the formation of that paragraph. In the event that series of lines technically is not aparagraph,then I'll just refer to it as a series of lines. :-)

I believe Poco has a offical site as well as poconut but can't think of it now.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Buried Alive In The Blues

The song "Buried Alive In The Blues" appeared as an instrumental on Janis Joplin's posthumous release "Pearl", as Ms. Joplin sadly died the night before she was to have recorded the vocal for the Nick Gravenites composition. Several years later, another version sung by Paul Butterfield and Geoff Muldaur was included on the "Paul Butterfield's Better Days" album. Mr. Gravenites, who wrote the classic "Born In Chicago" which was covered on the debut Paul Butterfield Blues Band album, later working with Mike Bloomfield in Electric Flag, also joined Big Brother and the Holding Co. after Ms. Joplin's depature. Mr. Gravenites' ex-wife Linda was a close friend of Ms. Joplin.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Poco, RRHOF

Article has great comment about why Poco reunited for Stageocach


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, dull, possibly, but more honest? But maybe it wasn't about what was actually going on but more about what Lennon constantly refers to as The Beatles Myth.

Peter, you're a voracious reader of rock history. Did you ever read this interview? I'm only a small way through it but it puts Levon's book in the soft and cuddly department by comparison.

Brien you've taken the height and The Weight discussion to a whole new dimension. We've gotten measured for height and weight, are you inviting everyone to join you in getting wasted? If so, I'm in.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Let It Be

… or perhaps it was that pictures of Yoko sitting sulkily and glum in the corner, and a pissed off looking John sitting on a chair continually fiddling with his guitar and looking grumpy, were dull in comparison to pictures of Paul singing?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

6'1", 215lbs, 36 waist.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day to Levon!


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Posted by:

Steve

The Weight, Brien, The Weight! Kilos are acceptable since this site is also visible in metric countries.


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Posted by:

Steve

Sorry Peter no time to google that, maybe Bob can do that and get back to us. P S B.

I'm reading, Lennon Remembers, the book form of Jann Wenner's 1970 Rolling Stone interview with John and Yoko.

See if you can figure out which names from another band could be substituted in this passage.

"I felt sad, the film was set up for Paul by Paul. That's one of the main reasons The Beatles ended, cause... I can't speak for George, but I pretty damn well know we got fed up being sidemen for Paul. After Brian died, that's what began to happen to us. And the camera work was set up to show Paul and to not show anyone else. That's how I felt about it. And on top of that, the people that cut it, cut it as, " Paul is God", and we're just lying around there. I know there were some shots of Yoko and me that had been just chopped out of the film for no other reason than the people were oriented towards Engelbert Humperdinck. I felt sick."

Marge picked up the book at Yoko's exhibit called, Imagine, at Montreal's Musee Des Beaux-Arts last week.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

A group that was short(ish) - Blue Oyster Cult. I don't think one of them was over 5'6". An old girlfriend was a manager at a hotel in Atlantic City in the late 80's- early 90's. She had the opportunity to meet the Rolling Stones and she commented that not only were they extremely slight but surprisingly short. I've met a number of stars over the years and the most surprising sight of shortness I've met is Slyvestor Stallone - Couldn't be taller than 5'5" - 5'6", though he is listed as taller on the net. I'm 6'1".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Have a Google on "Prince's height" and "Paul Simon's height" and you'll see that the matter of height greatly exercises fans, with many claiming 5 foot 2 inches for their adored ones. Someone points out that Prince is 4 ' 10.5", and elsewhere that in early bios he was 4'11" before growing three inches. The fans disagree. I've watched One Trick Pony, and sat dead centre second row watching Paul Simon, and I would bet that he is either the same height as my wife, who is five foot, or more likely, slightly shorter. And that's in shoes. Prince looks even smaller because he's also very slight.

However, as the fans say, both stride across the world of music as creative giants.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bashful, I wouldn't put too much money on Peter's measure of Paul Simon. Peter has already explained how if you're short, looking up at someone considerably taller than yourself makes that person appear taller than they actually are. I'd assume that, Peter, looking down from his great height would have the same problem judging how tall, or in this case, not tall, Mr. Simon is.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the turtle pond

Subject: Shredni

Shredni & Rick entertained the shit out of me and my loved ones a time or two...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: (Un)Furling the Getty

Strange to see Ferlinghetti in these pages.It makes me think of the popular graffiti on toilet walls:

Anyone would think to read such wit

That Shakespeare had been here to sit

Except usually it wasn't "sit" but a close rhyme. There was an article on reading poetry aloud in yesterday’s Sunday Times. They quoted some famous poet (Betjeman?) who said it should only be read loudly and at speed ‘as if the words had no meaning.’ i.e. no attempt to act them out. I haven’t been at a poetry reading in many years, but in the late 60s Roger McGough and Adrian Henri used to tour the colleges in Britain, very much like folk artists, doing readings. There were others too and they were regular events. They always acted out the poems to great effect. I assume Ginsberg and Ferlinghetti did much the same. Ginsberg’s Howl is mentioned by Bob Dylan as an inspiration in the recent interview. For me, the Canterbury Tales prologue bit at TLW failed to work. The fly was great though.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Moore,

I can walk to Coney Island. It's about 4 miles away.

You seemed to get the hang of the back slash n pretty quickly, but there is also the backslash b, which would allow you to post poetry and lyrics more realistically Senor Enby. For proper use of the quotation marks, I will refer you to Sebastian, who is the most recent graduate of the course.

And of course, for grammar or punctuation, our resident jokester, Northern Nutjob.

One area in which I hope you will prove to be as dexterous as he, is using the term grammar properly. It seems an abundance of people here have incorrectly used the term grammar for so many things.Some have even spelled it grammer while simultaneously using it incorrectly. I'm getting the feeling you may actually know from whence you type.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Johnny Otis linked up top.



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Posted by:

Jeb Stuart

Maj. Pelham,

Although you are quite correct as to dueling, I would defend affronted honor as a civilian on any field. But I will take your advice with the utmost respect.

As to a a visit to the Bower to attend to the Dandridge's needs, please feel free to take all the time as is needed. Perhaps Sweeny should accompany you.

I may travel there myself to assess your progress.

Your Obt Servant,

Stuart

PS. All of your actions in service to your country are held in my highest regard, especially on this day.


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Posted by:

Moore Enby

Subject: The Last ? Waltz

"... and like loiterers on the fringes of a fair,

we ogle the unobtainable imagined mystery,

yet away around on the far side

like the stage door of a circus tent,

is a wide, wide vent in the battlements,

where even elephants waltz thru".

from A CONEY ISLAND OF THE MIND, by Lawrence Ferlinghetti


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: TLW

Larry Packer, who played fiddle at TLW, once told me that one of the greatest nights of music he ever heard was the night before TLW, at the rehearsal. Joni Mitchell was better at the rehearsal than at the actual show, he said, and he felt especially blessed to be there for the four- part (including Joni) harmony of "Acadian Driftwood."

I asked Sredni if he was at the Danko-Manuel-Hudson concerts recently discussed in here. He said that he remembers doing those shows as a back-up (no solos). When I told him that the back-up was described as "meager" he laughed for quite a while, then said he was going to get a shirt with the words "Meager Back Up" written on the back.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Subject: Last Waltz

Nigel Tufnel's violin-aided guitar solo is an obvious "Song Remains the Same" homage. I always thought the interview segments were the most like "The Last Waltz," especially David St. Hubbins's rumination on the meaning of "the end," which seemed particularly Robertsonesque.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: short people

I just saw an article in Yahoo news re short rock stars&had to share : Prince - 5'2...John Mellancamp - 5'7...Bono - 5'7 1/2...Thom Yorke(Radiohead) - 5'5 1/4...Angus Young(ACDC) - 5'2...Roger Daltry - 5'7...Ronnie James Dio - 5'4...Bob Marley - 5'7....& they claim that Paul Simon is 5'3 though I recollect Peter V recently speculating that he may be under 5 feet. The article even suggests that the real reason for the Simon&Garfunkle breakup is that Artie is 6 feet +.......


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Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: Going to California

Kevin J, Thanks for the link. I enjoyed it very much. John Paul Jones is a talented fellow. He plays the bass, keyboard, guitar, lapsteel, autoharp, sitar, cello, mandolin and a couple other instruments I'd never heard of. The guy has some Band qualifications, although he's not a singer. Known as a respected producer and arranger he's worked with the Foo fighters, Rem, and Nicel Creek to name a few. I new he was a session musician before Zep but I didn't know he was working with the number of artists that he is currently. I always thought he was the forgotten member of that band and never got enough credit for his contributions. Hell, even Jimmy and Robert forgot to call him a couple of times.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Link to granted writer's retreat 90 minutes outside Nashville. Not good for heavy smokers or people allergic to cats. Didn't see mention of them having dogs, though guests can't bring their dogs.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: Is this what they call a flame war?

Question, while you're all ruining this GB, trying to bother a good person like Pat (BTW, it won't work), do you really think that Jan won't close this place down when he finally looks in here? Try him. Last time people acted like this he closed the GB for three years.



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Posted by:

Friend0

Malvina, you forgot to mention that Pat was wearing a pink scarf. Steve and I did our best, tried to get our nail colors to blend.


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Posted by:

Ruse

You know, you three "Boys" who post here are not exactly a credit to your gender. You come off like women during PMS. You should all get together and get your nails done! I can hear ya now.

Stevie - Oh that icy color looks lovely on you Pat, I wish I had chosen that one. But they gave ME this! (stevie holds out both hands, spreading his finger looking at them in disgust) I told them it was going to clash but they went on and put it there anyway! I'm never going back to that place (humph)

Pat - (grinning and looking the other way to hide his glee)How about you Ferndo. What shade did you get?

Ferndo - Oh, this Tangee orange! I love it! Do you two like it? (holds out his fingers and smiles) Does it look pretty on me?

Pat - Oh yes. it makes your skin just gloooow ohhh... ohh ahh looky Steveee at Ferndo's nails.. Aren't they beaut-if-ul? Stevie hates his nails, Ferndo. He says he's never coming back to this shop! I think they're a good shop.

Ferndo - Oh Yes, I agree. They're friendly, they never leave anyone out or ignore anyone and they're sooooo ecomomical. That's what I think anyway.

(Stevie sniffles and refuses to speak) Pat - Oh Stevie, quit being a bitch you kitty catty thang you. Your nails are perfect for you.

Stevie And .. WHAT is THAT suppose to MEAN? ? Huh? Are you insinuating something with that lit-tle veiled com-ment? (shoots hard glance a Pat)

Pat - You can't ever be satisfied with a n y t h i n g Stevie and everyone knows it!

Ferndo - Yeah! you're sooo much a bitch you.. you. you ah. oh get over it.

Stevie - Me, A Bitch? What about you FernnnnnndO! Mincing around all the time! Looking at yourself in store mirrors as you walk by you Priss!

Pat - Oh don't get me started Puhleeze..
Ferndo - And what about you Pat? Always looking at your behind and begging people to be impressed! Is my butt big? Do I look fat in these pants? Oh I wish I hadn't worn this skirt bla bla bla ... Gag me with a spoon...

Steve (holding his hand over his painted lips and giggling)

And this crap goes down between you three "males" like 24/7 around her!Either Get some testosterone shots or go the other way!


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Posted by:

Bill M

dlew: Sorry about that - it was Pat Benetar's version I was thinking of. As she says, fire away ...


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Posted by:

NB (Not Bothered)


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Bill M

did Joan Jett do 'hit me with your beat shot?' Pat Benatar did a great version as well ... /n


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Posted by:

Bill M

Thanks for the link, Mike. Reminded me how much that start sounds so much like the McCoys' "Sloopy" and also "Baby Ruth" by Butterfingers - both hits in '65.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Dr. Mooney's 115th Dream" blog post on Levon & The Hawks "He Don't Love You."

Always love hearing this tune w/ Richard on lead.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: another chance to vote for the Band!

The link is to a newspaper article on Randy Bachmand a little contest for the "Canada's best guitar song". Among the contenders that you can vote on are "The Weight". My money's on "Courage", but we'll see.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: Precisely…….I didn’t think that the reference to Robert Cliché could ever be topped but it has been …brilliant…..

bob w: Great to see that clip…… the last 90 seconds of Superstitious and some of that Malibu rust was falling away from Mr. Stewart! A benefit of living in New York and/or LA is the better chance of getting to enjoy one of these great guest appearances…...other towns get the local legends…...NY and LA get the legends.

Jan F: At the time Spinal Tap was made, TLW was really the only benchmark and Marty S. was especially ripe for the taking (the walk in the hallway with Rick or asking the guys “what about women on the road” etc. was great Rock n Roll cliché and quite ready to have the piss taken out of it….. but but but……Spinal Tap and the entire mocking was a direct and obvious attack on the hilarious heavy metal scene of the late 70 and 80’s – not at all The Band or even TLW in its entirety……………at least that's my interpretation.

I was in Cape Cod during the 25th anniversary of Woodstock - seemes like yesterday - now reading about the 40th anniversary - how did everything go so quickly?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Truh

Subject: R&B

On the local rocky and rolly scene, the only echo I can think of is the late '60s group Sherman and Peabody aka Mushroom Castle. Sherman was Buzz Shearman, who went on to considerable local prominence as singer of Leigh Ashford, which morphed into Moxy; he was replaced before the fourth and final Moxy album by Mike 'Perogy with a headband' Reno, who found some measure of fame and fortune (and a recording date with Richard Manuel) as singer with Loverboy. Peabody was Greg Godovitz, whose mother served our guys at the Friars Tavern and who arranged for her son to buy Rick Danko's amp. A third member was Eddie Schwartz, who wrote "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" for Joan Jett (and "She Was A Special Girl" for himself).

JT: Because the bassist in the nouveau Kensington Market, Scott Kennedy, was previously in Icarus with Schwartz, he sings the latter song in their occasional shows - the next of which looks to be July 8 at Hugh's Room in the T-dot.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Dlew, Great songs

Dlew:Thanks

Great songs:I'm playing 'the Weight' by the Staples just now. Just after 'Sittin' On The Dock of the Bay' and 'Respect Yourself' to come next. A brilliant trio of songs, beautifully performed. N'est-ce pas?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, your words: "Pat, I didn't defend what Jeff said, even halfheartedly, only his right to post what he wants to." And that's the exact point I've made all along, Jeff, that Steve didn't defend your grammar post but did defend your right to say it. I guess that defines lying and spinning in your world, Jeff.

And NB, I called your interpretation "interesting" which means I found it interesting. Nothing denigrating there.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

I'd often been told that Spinal Tap was based on TLW . . . I didn't want to believe it, but I guess now I'd better. Thanks Sebastian.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: An Apology

Congrats to Pat for catching me in my recent little "colourful interpretation". Despite carrying on the whole while as if I didn't know, I did indeed know full well that Frostbite Falls, Minnesota is not the official "home of R&B" (rhythm and blues) as I purported it to be, but rather the official home of Rocky and Bullwinkle (R&B).

No longer genuinely disingenuous, NB.


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Posted by:

Friend0

So Steve,

Is that four, five, or six times that Pat presented your post in a untruthful way?

I noticed that though you answered Pat each time, true to form, Pat would eventually present your post untruthfully yet again.

You do realize that in Pat's world, by so doing, Pat has essentially called you a liar. Are you seriously insulted, enough to raise the issue of banishment for Pat, or will you just continue to politely point out that and how Pat has misrepresented your post?



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Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Bill M, the Ryerson physics alumnus

Bill M: That's superb! The theory of relativity has had its (more or less) finest hour.


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Posted by:

Bill M

As a graduate of Ryerson's renowned Physics program (that's a joke, son, not a lie), I will attempt to elucidate some the previous posts by positing that there is a world where "more or less" is positive, where not necessarily agreeing is negative and where Kevin is a middle-aged Band fan, and a parallel world where "more or less" is negative, where not necessarily agreeing is positive and where Kevin uses the Hawks as 'date bait' to ensure that he gets born.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, sorry, I thought you said you watched Parallel Worlds.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Kevin, just last month.....


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Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: Question for Sebastian

I have many questions I would love to ask Sebastian about his father, but because they seem so intrusive, I'll ask only this: has your father quit smoking?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve…….Yes - Toronto 2009…. more or less not understanding your posts and Toronto 1961... Yonge Street bar sipping on a beer talking to a beautiful young lady….she just told me about this band playing across the street called the Hawks….best she has ever seen……things are looking good…but as I finish the beer I realize I haven’t been born yet……..


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, are you in more than one place at this moment?


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: More or less\plus ou moin.

Pat, just in case you interpreted, not necessarily agreeing with Jeff, as not agreeing with him, it can just as easily have been interpreted as agreeing with him. It was not meant as a comment one way or the other on what he said.

Good thing I didn't say, I more or less agree with what Jeff said. I always have to be careful and think about which language I'm speaking when I use the term, " more or less". In English it's a positive, as in, I more or less agree with you, meaning I'm kind of in agreement.

In French, plus ou moin( more or less) which is used like we use, more or less, is interpreted as negative. It's like saying I don't really agree with you.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Quantun Physics - Going to California

The above link is “Going to California” by John Paul Jones…….a beautiful take….

I saw part of a documentary last week on tv – called “Parallel Worlds – Parallel Lives” which is about a son (Mark Everett of rock group EELS) retracing/discovering the life of his father who was the renowned Hugh Everett (the Chuck Berry of Quantum Physics). Not exactly a captivating premise but trust me on this one………very much worth checking out!

Dylan and interviews: The British press have a term for someone whose interviews are better than their albums…….it is called “Doing an Oasis”….as everyone knows that it is impossible to walk by a rock mag that has a profile/interview with the nutty Gallagher brothers. They truly are fun to read (always have been) but have not put out a good album in 15 years. Certainly not the case for Bob Dylan but his interviews sure do capture people’s imagination and no doubt helps sell some magazines………


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: The Band / Spinal Tap

Rob Reiner's role in Spinal Tap was based on Martin Scrosese. My dad ran into Rob Reiner years and years ago he told him that the film was loosely based on TLW. So believe it or not The Band helped to inspire such greats as "Big Bottom," and "Sex Farm Woman."


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Kings of Leon & THE BAND

I've always wanted to attend the Memorial Day "wreath laying" ceremony at Arlington, but once again, this year did not get myself downtown. Hopefully, next year.

Interesting letter to the editor of the Rolling Stone this week regarding the Kings of Leon. Seems someone else (besides Mr. Steve and me) noticed that the Kings of Leon were dressed kind of like THE BAND on their RS cover last week. This writer took offense and said "by dressing the KOL like The Band (in upstate NY, no less) you make and unfair comparision." He stated that "KOL are a great rock band . . . . but The Band were one of the highest expressions of musical intellect the rock genre has ever produced. A hundred years from now, people will still listen to "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," "Sex on Fire"? . .. . I doubt it." From: Rolling Stone, Issue 1079, May 28, 2009.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Alexis P. Suter Band's "facebook" pg.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Here's a link to an article in the Hamilton paper about a Crowbar reunion. I like the photo, which shows the guys just after they'd left Hawkins - so there's soon-to-be Seatrain drummer Larry Atamanuik third from the left and the former Johnny Rhythm, (i.e., Robbie's boss in the pre-Hawkins Suedes) at the far right.

Peter V: I like your (or was it Till's) observation that Grossman was looking for Bandish instrumentation to back Joplin. It'd be interssting to know when the thought took hold. The first Canuck, Brad Campbell, was in from the early days of the Kozmic Blues band - and if things had gone according to plan there would have been a Canadian drummer too, Skip Prokop, who didn't turn up at rehearsal as expected. Then Till joined Kozmic Blues - after the album but still before Full Tilt. And then the two keyboardists joined: Richard Bell was either still with Hawkins or had just left, and Grossman may have heard him play or may have relied on Till's and/or Hawkins's recommendation. I believe that Ken Pearson came in via Robbie Robertson's recommendation (as Pearson was playing with Jesse Winchester, who Robbie was producing), but as Winchester was on Grossman's own label, he may well have been in the studio for some of the sessions. (A club gig seems less likely, as unsigned folksingers were generally forced to travel light.)


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Posted by:

Pat B


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Posted by:

Pat B

A mutedly happy Memorial Day to all who honor the moment. A heartfelt thanks to all the vets here. We all need to recall the meaning behind the holiday and thank the men and women who have served and are serving in the Armed Forces. Most importantly we need to recall those who made the ultimate sacrifice and remember.

The Jay Bennett news is tough.


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Posted by:

Steve

Jan, if you ever move to a metric country you'd be 77.5 kilos.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Spinal Tap are performing this summer with The Mighty Wind as support.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: RIP Jay Bennett

ex-Wilco


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Thanks Sebastian

And there's another connection between two of my favourite musical things - The Band and Spinal Tap (to go all David P. for a second) - not only was This is Spinal Tap allegedly based on tlw (which I think is bogus - I actually think it was based on Zeppelin's 'he Song Remains The Same', but TLW was used so as to avoid litigation). How are they connected - Norman's rare guitars also supplied Nigel Tufnel's collection!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Full Tilt Boogie Band

In the UNCUT article on Janis Joplin, John Till is interviewed. The article states that the Full Tilt Boogie Band musicians were recommended by Albert Grossman, including both Till and Richard Bell from later versions of The Hawks. John Till points out “We had exactly the same configuration as The Band. Piano, bass, guitar, drums, organ, and like The Band we had four Canadians, and one American on drums.”

It looks as if Grossman was deliberately trying to create a Band-like backing group for Janis.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: thanks Sebastian

thanks for emailing that question to your dad Sebastian. Robbie has been one of my heros since I first saw TLW back in 78. I live in New Zealand so I've never had the chance to see any of The Band in person. it feels kind of cool to have him answer a question of mine.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Small Town Talk

It was on the Paul Butterfield's Better Days album "It All Comes Back" with vocal by Geoff Muldaur, in his very laid back "Sweet Potatoes" era style. That was in 1973, and has Bobby Charles and Maria Muldaur on the album too. It's far and away my favourite Paul Butterfield album, though in retrospect it sounds much more like a Geoff Muldaur album. That's probably why I like it.

I don't remember whether I heard it before the version on the "Bobby Charles" album. I think I probably did … I bought both on vinyl around the time, but though the Bobby Charles version was released first, I reckon I had the Butterfield first. That makes a major difference to preference. Bobby Charles is on both versions anyway.

I still fail to understand why The Band never did this song, either in the 70s or the 90s.They didn't even do it in the 80s reunion. Even Rick Danko solo didn't do it often … it was on the 1977 live tour. The number of good cover versions attest to its basic quality.


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Posted by:

Ms. Ruse

Mr. Friend0 - I attempted to actually read the scrambled goop that apparently drained out of your mind, through your fingertips and unfortunately splattered onto the page of this website. It reminded me of a scene in the movie "Se7en"

Now you all know that the Band Kids, for the most part, haven't even heard of this website let alone keep tabs on it. I can remember the times when the posters were warned to "Keep it clean" for the children of the Band members all read the guestbook daily even tho all the "children" were well on their way to thiry, forty and even fifty years old! What a hoot!


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Posted by:

Pat B

Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. The anger management routine? Meds? That kind of response went out in 2002.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Location: Kitchener,Ontario
Web: My link

Subject: Susan Boyle and Sebastian/ROBBIE

LINK: The wonderful Susan Boyle has advanced to the finals. If you haven't heard her, this vid is something to hear/see. From Sundays show.

SEBASTIAN: How wonderful to have you here, and to respond to the GBer's has been a real treat to read. I have been one of your Dad's greatest fans. Have all his music and of course, THE BAND's too. The best I have ever heard. Never tire of listening to them.

Hope you come back again and again. I am also on facebook, and have checked your dad's and THE BAND's page. Love reading all the info, etc. GUYS: It has been awhile, and I miss you all, but to read the posts when I have the time has been very enjoyable. Glad you haven't changed. You are all such delightful people. God Bless you and keep you all.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Friend0

Shit. Left the sentence out. SONG, in this sentence, shoulda been SON. " Being Robbie's song, well, I respect that you are his son, and I respect that you will behave as his son." Shoulda been "Being Robbbie's son......."


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Correction: Remove one g.

Correction. In the following sentence in my post below, SONG , should have been SON. Of all the typos to make, that was one helluva typo.


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Posted by:

Friend0

That's a interesting show Mike. I left St Louis Jan 10th that year to return to NY. I missed that one by days but it musta been a beaut. I think Jaco was still behaving reasonably aorund that time. He did do a lot of solo shows at the Lone Star (Cafe, orginal location). Before much time passed though, he became a weird sight, buzzing in and out of The Lone Star regularly in various states ofstrong energy. Towards the end of The Cafe days there were several times he walked in when The Band was playing, got up on stage, commandeered Rick's bass and Rick would switch to acoustic. IN mid song even. More than onced he'd bassically force The Band to change the tune, I wish I could remember the song he seemed to change to the most. Want to say it was something likE America The Beautiful, or Star Spangled Banner. Anwyay, The Band members always tolerated him with kindness, noone looked like they wanted to kill him westie stage style. Of course, they weren't pleased by the second time it happened, but they weren't shocked either. They knew the deal.

Pat, you certainly don't need a reading comprehension course. You read fine. But it's this anger thing you have going on, seems to just overwhelms you. Make you post all kinds of untrue and nasty things. I don't usually recommend pharmaceuticals to anyone for any reason. Anger management courses just may help you considerably.

Sebastian. Hard to imagine but possible you didn't know about this Band website. It is a great site, ain't it. And the biggest, most complete tribute to any band on the internet. Years back Capitol records laid some heavy pressure on Jan H. They wanted him to just flat out turn this site over to them, and if I am not mistaken, if I recall correctly, when that failed, they may have pressured him to shut down. Ain't that ridiculous and shameful? I wasn't around this GB then, but I recall Jan writing about it after I got directed here in 2002. Me, i never used a computer till 2001, and still don't like them. I had no idea to search for things back then, but Joe L. levon's buddy, sent me here i guess mid summer 2002. Joe's a good guy, but I'll never forgive him for sending me to this GB. Usually, I would never associate with guys like Pat. But you can't pick your posting associates. You being alot yunger than I, i guess I just figured you grew up computer savvy, and being Robbie's would have known about this site. But, since you say you didn't know, I have no reason to not believe you.

Have much more stuff to say, Band related stuff That I think you will find interesting and worth discussing. Fan perception, public perception, musician perception, To GB or not to GB, positions held, and just plain old allegiance to The Band. I think you'll find it all interesting Sebastian, but it's gonna have to wait for some other time or times. Once it gets started, it's gonna roll here . All complicated stuff, and if the dreidelists remember that the dreidel olympics don't start up again till next year, might even prove to be very informative to you. You have legal knowledge, you have industry knowledge, you know session deals, you know various arrangements and you know what arranging is and how it can be compensated( two different things)you should know the ins and outs of so much of this. Which aside from the fact that you are Robbie's son you could have mnay various other persepctives that give you some understanding of how different types of fans perceive The Band various ways. Being Robbie's song, well, I respect that you are his son, and I respect that you will behave as his son. But that doesn't mean that you won't have the ability to follow views. While I'm writing on respect, I repsect your dad's contributions and am very thankful that there was a Band. As I've often said, you can't separate out experience. The Band been in my life since they first hit NY radio when i was 10 or 11. Yor dad was part of that, and those songs are in my bone marrow.

The info you made public here that the publishing has always been split 5 ways was nice to read and is nice to know. Long as it means what it should mean,that all 5 guys or their estates reeceive equal publishing payments on all the songs for every type of usage, that is great. So that was nice to read. BTW, I'm not saying I'm gonna up The Feud or want you to discuss it. I wouldn'lt ask you to discuss the Feud. But I do think you have interest in fan perception or misperception of various aspects The Band. Whether conscious or not, I do think that is one reason you are here. I don't think you should discuss everything you know or don't know, and wouldn't expect you to discuss many things. And I'm not about to ask you to. Hell, I may not even ever bring any of this up again. I've discussed it here too many times before. But some of the things you wrote before, well, it seems that it is there to be discussed. Really seems like you are asking to have this discussion. Sheesh, I'm out a my league. I'll proabbly never bring this up again.



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Posted by:

daena (said dana) gallant

Location: florida

Subject: re-j tull post..

no i was'nt offended or anything i was just curious if you'd made a mistake or there was something about him that a had'nt heard that's all..thanks for responding back to me . i have a myspace freind named herman who randumly messaged me a little while after i had posted a comment on bob dylan's official myspace page , so when you said something in your post about herman zimmerman it made me wonder .. daena was here today..


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Posted by:

JQ

Location: Small Town Talk

I like John Martyn's version too. Was it covered on P Butterfield's Better Days album(s) too?


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

On Levon's website, he is scheduled to play at the heroes of Woodstock concert in Bethel on Aug 15. The July 18 Ramble lists John Simon as his guest.

Buddy Guy has been added to the ABB Wanee Fest we are attending in a couple of weeks.

Steve: 170.5

J.F.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Daena

Well it is at least something Zimmerman. Forgive the first name error.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: 40 Years After...

Two friends of mine are going to the 40th anniversary Woodstock concert in August. Is anyone from here planning to go? Does anyone know if Levon or anyone else with connections to The Band will be performing?


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Posted by:

malvina ruse

Web: My link

Subject: Steve Earle Does Townes

" He's got his very own wall at The Old Quarter
They play a lot of of his songs in here
From Rex's Blues to Flyin' Shoes to White Freightliner Blues...
To If I Needed You

People come and go at The Old Quarter
They see his pictures hangin' on the wall
It seems a shame to me
That folks just come to see
They never come to know him a'tall

Well he may be long gone from this room
But his melodies rise up and fill the air
And after a little dance
There's a very good chance
That you might hear the Ghost of Townes Van Zandt

In the warm and gentle breezes of his memory
Tho we fare well we ever try to measure up
To The Poet we've admired
Who continues to inspire
Even when our own time here is up

So let's sing some Townes' songs in remembrance
To honor him and to have a little more fun
I know that he can hear..
Cause he's hangin' out in here
If only For the Sake of the Song

He might be long gone from this world
But his melodies rise up and fill the air
And after a little dance
There's a mighty good chance
That you might hear The Ghost of Townes Van Zandy

Yeah, after a little dance
There's an awfully good chance
That you just might hear The Ghost of Townes Van Zandt"

Diane Craig


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: '85 Lone Star Cafe Hudson, Danko & Manuel live show.

Posted on "The Band" "fbook" pg.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Small Town talk

It's weird how after all these years, new Band-related stuff still turns up. Last week I found a single by Sassafras of "Small Town Talk" dating from 1976. This British group were on Chrysalis, and turn in a very good performance, most akin to the Paul Butterfield Better Days version (which is my favourite anyway). A bit too much whistling going on for some, but it has an excellent feel. It was one we didn't know about. I found the single, but it's on their LP (which is in turn on CD).


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Posted by:

Ari

Brothers Bloom has a lot of Band references in it. Rick getting caught in the spotlight is referenced. Robbie catching the fly is referenced. "Sleeping" is the is played in karaoke. The director Rian Johnson said he wrote it while he was hooked on Last Waltz and The Band's music and sees Mark Ruffalo as being Robbie in his mind.


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Posted by:

Malvina Ruse

Web: My link

Wonderful piece of music from the new unreleased Public Enemies film. Bale outshines Depp so they say. It just looks like he might. Cinematography is astounding. Looks like another Deakins job altho I haven't gone looking for who, what and where yet.

Sebastian - Sorry for spelling your name wrong. It's not a common name and I am notoriously terrible with names to begin with.


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Posted by:

The Gallant Pelham

Location: Anniston, AL

Subject: Duels and such

Hon. Gen. JEB Stuart,

Meaning no disrespect Gen., but we are bound by a code of conduct and we are not at leisure to be involved in duels with enlisted men.

As for bullets shot at me, as long as they keep missing I will remain indifferent.

Finally, with your permission I would like to stop at "The Bower" for some refreshment and allow my mount to rest. I only ask for two weeks, not for me, but for the Dandridge household. Some of them need tending to and I swear by the Cause that I will try to look deeply into the matter.

Mo. Respty,

Jno. Pelham

Maj. Art.

P.S.- At the risk of being rude again, can you inquire from Lt Col Robertson if his father actually caught that fly in TLW?


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Posted by:

daena (said dana) gallant

Location: florida

Subject: a question to j tull fan's message..

hay j tull fan when did bob dylan ever go by the name herman zimmerman? daena was here today..


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: not YOUR mother, Sebastion

It's really hard to chat online and everybody get along. But I have to say it is more of a 'male' thing.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: where are your mothers?

SEB - Did you "Bandkids" ever get together? Or were you more like kids whose parents worked together, but the youngsters never saw each other? Were any Bandkids exceptional musicians, writers or singers?


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Robbie, Levon, and The Fans

Sebastian, you will find that there are very well-delineated Robbie and Levon or Robbie vs. the Other Four factions out here. Some posters have had the opportunity to meet a few of The Band in real life, but I suspect with a few limited exceptions no posters really 'know' any of them beyond a few encounters. As fans, myself included, it is easy to get caught up in the public disputes of either your dad's or Levon's public personnas, or that of any famous person. At the end of the day though, it is really none of our business. I am a fan of The Band individually and as solo artists. In this role i am a customer; I paid my money and your dad and the others provided me with a product for which I am thankful. I am not owed any more by any of them, particularly parts of their private lives, privacy, or private business dealings between themselves. I'm naturally interested, but unless your dad wants to know the ins and outs of the telecom infrastructure industry(which is my livelihood)or moves into my neighborhood, that's all our relationship ever will be! It is fun having you out here and I hope you stick around. I guess the point I am trying to make is that you shouldn't take personally things said about your dad's public persona out here as that is only a straw figure. It's like Jakob Dylan. If a fan rips Bob Dylan, they are not ripping his father. Herman Zimmerman is his father, just as the Rob who is your dad is not the same as Robbie Robertson, public figure.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Robbie's TLW Strat

Red Strat = Bronze Strat. That was the one.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: ?Sebastian

You are so right. There is no need for another Band website. We are all fortunate to have Jan's wonderful place. Thanks's Jan! Nobody does it better.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Why and Why now?

Well, the answer is pretty simple. When I decided to setup a myspace and facebook page for my dad I came across this site. I really had no idea there were PRO-Robertson or Anti- Robertson's out there. I had no agenda. Very innocently I thought it would be a nice way for some people to have access to my dad whom otherwise never would.

Rob is making a record but it won't be out for some time however it seemed like an appropriate time to connect and reconnect with some fans through the internet which was lacking. Also I had just become acquainted with Facebook and felt that it was a solid site that could do some good. Eventually I typed "the band" in google and found this page. I was extremely impressed by the content and realized very quickly that there was no need for a website for The Band, it was well in hand.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Oh, and Jeff, in Jan Hoiberg's part of the world, serious insults and personal attacks get you banned. I don't know where requesting a duel falls in there.


Entered at Sun May 24 19:11:15 CEST 2009 from h-68-165-56-74.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.165.56.74)

Posted by:

Pat B

Jeff, you seemed to miss the whole point. You've been a name-caller and a conspiracy theorist for years. Just for good measure, you managed to shoehorn both into your last post. So thanks, I guess, for proving my point.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Yo Pat, In my part of the world, some one lies, many things could result. The least of which is being called on it verbally . Serious insult? Maybe a fact, but not a serious insult.

A serious insult here would be "your mudda's a lying......"

Of course anytime you want to meet on highway 80 with dueling pistols, and seconds , like genteel men.

BTW, Sebastian's experiment post was rather open to many interpretations. Even without your spin. One could wonder just what the experiment was and why. Why now too of course. It really doesn't matter. Sebastian being here certainly does raise soem intersting aspects and add dimension or dimensions. And of course, if sebastian expounded on his experiment, why, and why now, that would be open to interpretation too.

I'm just enjoying his presence, and his father's. Robbie contributed as much to great music as anyone.

Gotta get to LOng ISland or I'd have a lot more to add. But this is less sapce for DEb, Jersey, etc, to have to scroll past.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Charlie, Glad you appreciated it. BTW, that was Martin Barre still playing guitar with the band.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Sebastian, on Northern Lights, Southern Cross, Garth did a ton of overdubs. Was Garth then involved in the mix?

For the Brown Album, how long were they in Hollywood recording? Thanks.


Entered at Sun May 24 18:48:22 CEST 2009 from user-24-236-77-125.knology.net (24.236.77.125)

Posted by:

Deb

Sebastian, do you know how your dad came upon Othar Turner's fife and drum music and what made him decide to use it in "Gangs of New York"? At first glance it wouldn't seem to be a fit, but it works brilliantly. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: 2 of 3 answers

I emailed my dad this morn about the bronze strat question so I'll be back with that answer. "I would like to ask about that magnificent guitar/mandolin robbie plays in the weight in tlw. It's a gibson, but where and when did he get it, and does he still have it?" He got it here in Southern California at a store called Norman's Rare Guitars and yes he still has it.

My Mom came up with the name Sebastian. Being French Canadian it was a name she heard now and again and it stuck with her.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

JTF: I enjoyed that 2008 video of Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull's fine performance of that Roland Kirk jazz classic. It's good to see Mr. Anderson has grown older gracefully with musicians who appreciate subtle, sophisticated sounds like that. It's a long way from the Spinal Tap syndrome, though I didn't really expect to see the flute man standing on one leg anymore. That keyboard guy in his band seems very talented.

Sorry if we've swamped you with questions, Sebastian Robertson! Sebastian is a great name, by the way, and the surname of a musician whose career I've followed for over 40 years, John Sebastian. OK, I confess I have a question, too. How did your parents pick the name, or do you know?


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Posted by:

Jeb Stuart

If I had seen the insult, sir, I would have called out the 1st Virginia Cavalry, and honor would have been restored, I assure you that.

btw, visit a cemetery and plant a flag.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: downwind of the burgers on the grill

Subject: It's a good day for a BBQ

Fred and Jan- I want to thank you for protecting me from that lout who apparently attacked me in the GB last night. If I had seen it I probably would have said something I'd regret later ("Do what you want to Peter, but leave me ALONE").


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Posted by:

Pat B

Sorry, Jeff, that old martyr thing really doesn't fly. Most everyone here thought you were out of bounds--even with your fanciful smoke signal explanation--and your few supporters were wobbly at best: Steve said he didn't necessarily agree with what you said but that you had every right to post--which I agree with--and NB did an interesting interpretation on the events which Sebastian's later admission countered rather succinctly when he posted "this experiment hasn't really worked out for me."

The fact is, Jeff, that anyone who disagrees with you gets called names. There was your tiresome round with Peter V back in Little Pink Days (Petah, Tex, what else?), right up to your latest (spinners, liars, unwashed heathans, etc). Now, you say that every post I've made about Band-related matters contain "untrue stuff." Then you claim that I somehow post this "untrue stuff" on purpose--"you know that yourself"--the ultimate conspiracy!! As a master propagandist, I'm here to mislead the masses. Brilliant. And, of course, ridiculous.

In my part of the world, calling people "liars" constitutes a personal attack and a serious insult.


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Posted by:

DEE

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Hey Joe

Aunt Bessie sounds like quite a woman besides liking younger men. Willie recently had his 76th birthday.

I keep at least 1 Willie CD in my car CD system which holds 6. 3 are usually OQ or Robbie Solos and currently a Frankie Laine is among the them.

Now if I only had a CD of Robbie's movie songs sung by him. I'm saving a place for it. May have to use Westcoaster's CD instead. Wonder which one will show up first?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Steve, Deb and the truth? Truthfully, over a couple of years Deb has insisted she doesn't read my posts. Of course, so have Jersey, Claire, and Bama Belle Jan . I guess they all have that bad habit of lying.


Entered at Sun May 24 16:49:06 CEST 2009 from 21cust94.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.94)

Posted by:

Steve

Fred, I think it's more accurate to say that women demanded and acquired the right to vote rather than were given it. If they waited to be given the right they might still be waiting.

Friend0 are you sure about that flat earth thing?

Deb sounds like you might be planning on substituting for the bible in court rooms?

I swear on Deb, to the best of my knowledge I'm 5'11" and 191 lbs.

Jan, you didn't actually give your weight. Do the swear on Deb and throw out some numbers.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Deb, Pat, I wouldn't expect any other kind of answer from either of you.

Deb, Nutjob wrote a lot more, starting with his *glass is half full post*

Pat, while I can't comment on any discussions that invclve the civil war or politics, probably every post you have made that involves a difference of opinion over Band related matters contains untruths and wide leaps of accuracy regarding what other posters have actually written. Other posters here have pretty recently pointed out recent examples in this GB of how you have done this recently. Even regarding that post of yours that you describe as accurate. There is more untrue stuff in there than others have pointed to, but of course, you know that yourself.


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Posted by:

Deb

Hi, Dunc. You can use my name to tell the truth anytime. ;o)


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Posted by:

Friend0

Fred: It Could Be Done.

The scholars could discuss how and prerequisites and all that but it could be done. Doubtful, but of course anything is possibe till it ain't possible no more.

But Fred, of course you do realize the world never was flat.

Speaking about odds, I doubt we could expect Amy in here. Probably ever, but especially now. She and her dad gonna be pretty busy touring and performing for a good while.

But anyone who wants to her ask her a question, well, just go to a show she performs in.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "The Band's" tribute band's "facebook" pg.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'days to Bob Dylan & Chris Bergson!


Entered at Sun May 24 12:54:50 CEST 2009 from (85.255.44.145)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Norwegian national day++

Lars, Norway's Constitution Day, May 17th, is always celebrated in style over here. We put on our best suit (no national costume, I'm afraid) and go around town watching the parades, eating sandwiches and drinking beer and aquavit at outdoor restaurants.

Btw, we've done some cleaning up again in here. A couple of personal attacks have been deleted and a certain ISP has been blocked for a while.


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Posted by:

Steve

Sorry, Pat, nobody sees the diary, you'll have to wait for the book.


Entered at Sun May 24 11:45:02 CEST 2009 from (203.171.195.79)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: dunc; sebastian

Hi Dunc. The badloves version was a good size hit for them here in oz. Jimmy barnes is a local legend - look up cold chisel, but also his solo work. I saw the badloves a couple of times, and have one of their albums. I was saddened when they broke up: the goldman impossible way of life again - magnified in oz, due to the vastly smaller number of venues and the greater distances to travel

Hi sebastian: I haven't posted anything here to you because I couldn't think of a good question that wasn't dumb and/or intrusive. But I would like to ask about that magnificent guitar/mandolin robbie plays in the weight in tlw. It's a gibson, but where and when did he get it, and does he still have it? Hope that's ok ... If not, I mean no offence.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks Sebastian

Sebastian:Thanks. Your father's work has brought a lot of pleasure to me over many years and I like the innovation. I like for, example, Rob's contribution with Galactic on Goin' Home. Great track. Looking forward to the new album. Many thanks.

Malvina:You're so wrong about that. Look at the posters around this post, for example. Fred, Pat B, Deb, Jan F, myself all love Robbie's work. We love, however, all the Band. Think of Simon in Liverpool's post talking to tourists doing the Beatles trail. He corrected them on who the greatest band of all time was. Hope you guys don't mind me quoting your names.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The April Dylan Rolling Stone interview is also in today's Sunday Times Magazine. Not often a journalist can score a double like that!


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Another question for Sebastian

I've always wondered what I'd ask Robbie if I was actually fortunate enough to meet him. There's probably bigger questions but I'd really like to know if that bronzed Strat from TLW was the red one he used on the 74 and 75 tours.


Entered at Sun May 24 08:43:04 CEST 2009 from sannin29137.nirai.ne.jp (203.160.29.137)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: For Sebastian

This is a selfish request...no scratch that...it's more of a selfish demand: get your Dad to high tail it into the studio with Messrs. Hudson & Helm to make some new music together. Just the 3 of them. They don't have to tour.I don't care about the wheres, hows, whens...or the seemingly endless impossibilities of it all...just get it done. Whatever it takes!!

I know there'll be naysayers out there who say "cain't be done"....if we listened to the naysayers all the time then the world would still be flat, manned flight wouldn't have happened, and women would never have been given the right to vote (just to name a few things).


Entered at Sun May 24 08:34:12 CEST 2009 from sannin29137.nirai.ne.jp (203.160.29.137)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Surely you jest

Lars & bad manners? What?!?

In all my time reading posts, I have yet to come across one by Lars that has been, or that can be labelled as being, "bad mannered". Nary a one, not even the slightest hint of bad manners.


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Posted by:

malvina ruse

Subject: Since I'm here for only a short time

I would like to say a few things. I'd like to let Sabastian know that I prefer his dad's solo music to the music he made with The Band. Afterall, the Band only made music for what, Eight years? Robbie's had twenty years of solo material and it's damne fine stuff! He works better as a solo artist (at least for me)

Things have been rather peculiar around here, haven't they? I mean, I can't recall a time in Guestbook history where things have been so . . . pro-Robertson.


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Posted by:

Deb

Jeff, I deferred to NB because said that Sebastian would probably be back and I thought not. I was wrong about that. I don't have any apologies to make to anyone.


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Posted by:

malvina ruse

Web: My link

band connection - it's a mystery


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Posted by:

Pat B

Jeff, I described the whole thing with Sebastian accurately. And i can't imagine what would prompt you to recall me commenting about anybody's grammar. I haven't posted regularly in years, even when I moderated, and my concerns were never about grammar. Perhaps you could consult Steve's diary on the matter.


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Posted by:

Christy

Subject: Robbie Robertson

Sebastian, without a doubt, your father is one of the best guitar players and a fine songwriter, as well! Being a huge fan of The Band, I enjoy the work he did with them, the most. Tell him I said "Thank you for all of the beautiful music, throughout the years."


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Posted by:

malvina ruse

The answer is false


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Posted by:

Friend0

Tull & Sebastian, while i'm not about to contradict sebastian about a personal family matter, common sense dictates that noone ever admit publicly to having anything rare in their home. And that is what the question posed. *In your home, In his home*

i imagine and hope that Robbie has very strong security systems, and would think that most of his rare equipment or rare anything is safeguarded and very likely off premise.

I rememebr Al Kooper telling the story about some one beign ripped off for some very vasluable guitars, and he immediately selling the guitar that Jimi Hendrix gave him. Cause it was common knowledge he had it,and he didn't want to potentially get killed over it.

So sebastian, I'm with you. Robbie has nothing rare at home. Maybe cause he sold everything valuable to send you to good schools :-)

Goodnight .


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Bootlegs

Sorry JTull fan but no rare bootlegs.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Sorry, forgot the :-).

Again.

But I do remember to come back and apologize.

Anyway Sebastian, welcome. Now if Amy shows up here too, it will get really interesting.



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Posted by:

Friend0

Sebastian. You might need the reading comprehension course that has helped a few here. First the backslash n, now this.

No apology was requested, I just enjoyed pointing out how so many proper people possess poor manners. And enough backbone to admit when they are wrong.

BTW, you are in good company. Though his symptoms were different, it took Steve a little while to get the hang of the backslash n also. Several people broke his chops about it, I believe that very civil warrior Pat being one of them.



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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: for Sebastian

Sebastian, one thing I am curious about concerning your dad, or anyone with his background: in your home growing up or in his home today, does he have a lot of rare or bootleg recordings that he has collected over the years of artists with whom he is friendly with that they may have shared with him? Did you have access to any unreleased gems that the rest of us fans could only dream about hearing that may have been passed around between artists in private?


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Dunc's question and Friend0

"Sebastian:Does Rob (if I may be so bold)still play a lot of new music? How does he keep up? I often wondered how Paul Buchanan came to work with Rob for example?"

Well Dunc, for starters you absolutely may be so bold. I think we're all on a first name basis here. Rob cares very much for the state of modern music. And when something interesting comes around he usually here's it on Sirius or is alerted by his friends in the music industry. For instance his current play list includes the EP Blood Bank by Bon Iver. A very fresh and inspired EP that I also enjoy quite a bit. As for Friend0 requesting an apology I'm sure everyone will come running...

Oh my God!!! As I previewed this post it dawned on me, I just figured out the cause of all the hoopla... the dreaded misuse of quotes. As it states in the instructions for creating a paragraph, you are to put a backlash and the letter "n" next to each other. However there is quotes around this directive and I took it literally and put quotes around the n and the backlash causing quotes to lead every sentence where a new paragraph was started. Maybe now Friend0 won't think I'm an inbreed anymore or that my parents couldn't afford proper schooling for me. Hallelujah. ;)


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Posted by:

Friend0

Excuse me, I left something out.

:-)


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Posted by:

Friend0

Ya know, I do believe that all the people who insulted me and /or furiously insisted that because I smoke signalled /pointed out that he did not use quotation marks properly, Sebastian left the GB never to return, really do owe me an apology. But then again, most of you who did take that position have no real manners at all. I don't and didn't expect the apology, and you've had more than enough time to make that apology unprompted. Deb deferred to NB, but not to me. An apology now is worthless, but I did want to point out that you behave like unwashed, unmannered heathen.



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Posted by:

Friend0

Stabbio, the problem with strip clubs is the terrible effect thast working in them has on the lives and psyches of the women that work in them. While huge damage has probably already been done to the psyches of the women who do work in strip joints, it definitiely continues there. Dancing is bad enough.

Aside from dancing, there is also the old, well, you are making a lot of money, want to keep your job.... there's a cab outside , go visit joe, etc.

It is pretty safe to say that most, if not all strip joints are mobbed owned too. Fuck with , or say no, you know what comes next.

while I doubt anyone could find it googling, there is a killer analogue recording studio / strip joint , joint venture. The neighbors could either inspire or distract from musical peformance.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: High enough to have a lot of momentum

Subject: Piling on

....and another thing Peter: I never liked your syntax. Ever.

Jan H.- I just got some photos from last Sunday, Norway's National Day. One of my "daughters" (ex-exchange student) dressed up her three year old daughter (I guess that would be my "exchange grandaughter") in her native Norwegian dress. A cute kid. Do you have a native garb to wear, as well? Would you consider wearing it to a Ramble?....I don't blame you. Still, I think the idea of celebrating your heritage is really great.



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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: The Weight covered, Help

Great Jan. The name fooled me. Also, the group seems to have reformed. Spotify is a great resource for research. I always use CD to listen.

Jan et al:Where do I get the alternative version of Whispering Pines in CD form with the 'Squeaking Seat/wooden foot introduction? Richard and I think John Simon speaking.

I love Richard's singing.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

I weigh way too much, that's for sure, but I'm working on it.

Went to see Dickey Betts last night in Virginia. He can still play that Gibson guitar. His son, Duane, is not a bad guitar player either, and cute. A much louder show than we've been to in a while.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Steve

OK, everyone seems pretty free with their height, but how about The Weight?


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Posted by:

abby

Location: KY

Subject: george at deja vu

Plus when George (Jason Alexander) was in town for the Derby several yrs ago my son said he saw him go into the nearby strip club - yuck.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: short people

George Costanza is just about the worst example of short, fat and bald because we also know that wonderful personality of his....him and his cheap envelopes!


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: The Weight/Jimmy Barnes/Badloves/Mushroom Tapes

We've got it covered, see link above.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Joan

Thanks Joan. It's a clearer electric better version I've been listening to. I can't post a link. It's streaming.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Dunc

Took a look after you mention. The link is to Jimmy Barnes and The Badloves. The Weight with a small change in Rick's verse.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Ridiculously low prices

Some prices are now ridiculously low. At Fopp I could have bought 3 Byrds' albums in a boxed set for £3 a couple of weeks ago. Today the entire catalogue of Simon and Garfunkel and the DVD of the concert in Central Park for £8. I had them. Thanks Rhythm Jimmy.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: The Weight, Dlew

Hi Dlew:I like the Australian version of the Weight by the Badloves from the Mushroom Tapes. Is this version of the song popular in Australia? I like how the crowd join in and the guitar playing. It's not on Jan's site. Hope you and family are well.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Songbooks

Been working too hard last two weeks, but enjoyed reading a lot of posts today.

Sebastian:Does Rob (if I may be so bold)still play a lot of new music? How does he keep up? I often wondered how Paul Buchanan came to work with Rob for example?

Lars:I agree with your advice to Kristie. Your championing of 'Rock Salt and Nails' is worthy and I have really appreciated this song much more since you championed it last year and it was the last song I saw John play before his untimely death. It is a disturbing song and it was one of the few covers John played. However the duet with Levon is great and it was the last song I saw John play. Everybody needs the beautiful'No Little Boy' in their collection. From the sleeve notes: 'Levon Helm was sitting on a stool tapping his foot and singing between long drags of his cigarette! John stood with his eyes closed delivering his soulful indistinct ethereal vocals...' An American song by Utah Philips.

Peter:Playing Forever More. Thanks. The reason is the reissue of AWB's entire catalogue on four CDs. I have now got two of them.

Julie and JG:Hope you and families are well.

Rod:the Hammond played on Jools is hired to them. Originally bought by a Scotsman in the Far East, it cost £10 000.

Dylan:Should be given Nobel Prize.

Other posters:Thanks


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Sebastian

Thanks for stopping by. We do get a little odd here. :)


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: Southside
Web: My link

Subject: Neil Young Archives

Attached link is to a web demo of Young's recent archival release. If the link doesn't work it shouldn't be hard to find.

Hi Dee from Wisconsin. Thought of you when I attended an open house for Aunt Bessie's 80th birthday (she isn't really my aunt). I've mentioned before that Bess is a big Willie fan. There's no stopping the old bird. She broke a wrist skiing in New Zealand last year and is about to go 'on safari' in Africa. She sounded just a little disappointed that the only shooting would be done with cameras. She's also actively looking for a third husband. "I'd take off with Willie in a jiffy" she said.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Colin Linden

. . . has a new album, "From the Water," released this month by True North Records, and dedicated to "our beloved brother, Richard Bell."

True North has also released a boxed set of Colin Linden's earlier recordings, "The Columbia Years," comprising "When the Spirit Comes," "South at Eight North at Nine," "Through the Storm Through the Night," and "Raised by Wolves," all for the ridiculously low price of $29.99 CAD (about US$26.50).


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Posted by:

Friend0

Sham on you Pete.


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Posted by:

Peter V

According to the International Association of Charismatic Psychology AND the World Organisation for the Study of Perception, charisma visibly adds to the perception of height of famous people; and by up to 4.72 inches according to the Journal For the Study of Charisma. But surely, you may ask, anyone can quote such authorities, and are they legitimate organisations? Well, I can assure you that all the authorities cited have been approved by both the British Naming Registration Association and The International Authority for the Registration of Organization Titles. Anyway, I was quite safe with my pilot friends. They’re officers and gentlemen and I wear glasses.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Dash off?

You are a regular riot Pete. Your encounters with these pilots must have been rather short lived. Either you are leaving out that you got your ass kicked, or you must have dashed off before you tried their last nerve.

Now that statement of yours : "Charisma adds several inches to our perception of someone’s height." Is that scientifically proven, or just another Vineyism that you would like everyone to accept as fact?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff, before you dash off an application to the Fleet Air Arm (or US Navy Air Force), short is good. Bald is irrelevant. But I met a few, and none were obnoxious.


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Posted by:

Peter V

We often have weird topics, Sebastian. But I would say that Robbie is the “ideal height.” (i.e. the same as me almost exactly).

I was once in an elevator in Toronto with three or four of the US basketball team. That’s really looking upwards. If you go back to “Smash Hits” or other teen pop magazines, height and eye colour were obligatory information for rock musicians. In general, as many have stated, most famous people are surprisingly shorter in real life than they look. I’ve often quoted doing the running mic for Tom Jones for a summer. There was a show before him, and they switched the chorus line for his show for shorter girls, so they were all five foot to five foot two, making him look tall. But someone with that much charisma (and Tom Jones in 1968 had as much charisma as anyone I’ve ever seen) always appears tall, but again he looked big generally … big chest etc. As Rod says, built like a brick shithouse. (An Antipodean simile which became popular in the UK due to the Barry McKenzie cartoons in “Private Eye” magazine in the sixties). Charisma adds several inches to our perception of someone’s height.

I had a friend who used to be a Fleet Air Arm pilot, and he told me they were all short (at least in the 1950s and 1960s). The ratio of cockpit size and payload was so crucial when flying off a carrier that employing no one over about 5 foot 6 inches tall contributed. I’ve tried to sit in fighter aircraft of that era at static air shows, and those early jets are a very tight fit.


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Posted by:

Deb

NB, I stand corrected.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: height

Height can be deceptive. I've walked past some famous rugby players in the street. Guys who look 6th foot 4 on TV are shorter than me ( 5 11) in real life.They're normally built like brick shit houses though - which I'm definitely not.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: height

Sebastian- Good to have you back.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: height

Weird topic but I stopped in to have a look and came across the question of height. Robbie is six feet one and a half inches tall.


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Posted by:

Friend0

David: You are fast. If there ever is a rock and roll jeopardy, my money is on you.

Bill: While I suspect this is not the response you hoped for, I'll do my best. I never gave it any thought before but "I suspect that Carol's estimation of Rick's height" is, if not one thousand per cent accurate, then with in a half inch. Rick was a big guy. Carol, being his friend and publicist , may actually have reason to know his exact height. I can tell you from dozens of encounters, he was big. Broad shouldered, solid like a tree trunk, and big. He may not have seemed particularly tall, because he was solid, as opposed to thin, like Levon and Garth tend to be. even when he wa son the thinner side, Rick was aptly described as a big guy. BTW, 6' tall, is not particularly tall. Or unusual.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Web: My link

Subject: Some Cuckoo for Charlie

recent performance.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Well JQ, on a per oz basis, short fat and bald is pretty likely to be less obnoxious than tall skinny and bald. Each comparison has to be held based on the comparatees. Age does not enter in. Though some old geezer who is likely to die sooner will be obnoxious for less time to come, he or she has already been obnoxious for more time than the younger person. Accents do enter the picture, patrician accents being the most obnoxius.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Don't Forget "The Castanza- Effect", By George !

GENTS: In doing all these computations and measurements, forget not the diminishing and hence deflating effect of having just come out of the pool, as elucidated by George Castanza on "Seinfeld". I speak of course of SHRINKAGE ! ! NB.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: birth control devices

Jeff - you sure about the obnoxious part? I think short can exacerbate other things like short, fat & bald is worse than the tall version, eh?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Well Pete, you ain't that great a judge of other people's processes.And I don't give a rat's ass if you keep inferring that i am short. Short ain't debilitating,fatal, offensive, obnoxious, or contagious. I been reasonably short a long time. I don't see that changing. Even when I'm dead, I"ll be short till I decompose..

When I talk to people that it's worth listening to, and generally in life, as i am involved in things, I don't think about gauging people's height, or any nonsense of that nature.. I'm too busy living. Any gauging of height has come after, observed from pictures and things of that nature. And memory comparing what i saw in relation to other things.And to be honest, if Ari didn't ask, I wouldn't have given it a lot of thought. But i do remember back in the Lone Star Roadhouse days, Garth seeming pretty tall mingling in the crowd. , And from back in 03, 04, when i was fortunate enough to spend 5 or 6 evenings or mornings with Garth and Maud, I can tell you he is reasonably tall. I don't recall looking up at him acutely, my neck hurting, or him leaning over so I could hear him speak, but you may know better than I. I spent time opposite Garth in diner booths or tables, and right angles to him at tables, walked next to him, sat in my minivan captain's chairs next to him listening to music, went to studios with him, and I'd say he's about 6' tall. Now I never measured him, and never asked him how tall he is, but if you want I could call him tonight and say hey, this is really important to Peter, just how tall are you these days, and how tall were you back in 68? Shoot me, if he's only 5'10". If you recall, i spoke pretty generally.To me, 5'10' is about 6'. But then again, I don't make lists, and i never was a moderator.

Now far as I go, i doubt i ever been more than 5'7". Maybe only 5'6 1/2". On a good day, when i was younger. Back in 2002 i might have been 5'5, or a scoche more. My take on Levon's height comes from remembering that when we took a picture together, Levon put his arm around me, then slumped down. presumably so he wouldn't be taller than me in the picture. And there are pictures where it can be seen , that he is leaning to the side some. Levon was being considerate, but all in all, height never mattered to me. I just noticed that it it was something that happened

Joan, yes, people who have disc issues like us lose height.Bout two years ago I mentioned to a spinal surgeon that i had already shrunk 2", he said you probably are right, then he did the scientific math based on my MRIs, and said yep, right about that.

Dicky Betts is one example of a short guy that most people, tall or not, wouldn't fuck with. Has that stray dog look about him. Kinda guy that someone can have him on the ground and be kicking him and he'll bite your ankle and hold on till your foot falls off.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

bob w: Excellent!! A great way to end the week……….

Best for the long weekend to posters south of the border……. For years I always associated this weekend completely with the Indy 500 – friends of my parents used to drive up from the states and we all watched the 500 – at least for 15-20 years without fail – long after I had left home I still returned for this custom. I recall for weeks leading up to the race the sports pages and nightly news would be all over everyone’s times – Andretti, the Unser brothers, AJ Foyt – up through the early 90’s when Jacques Villeneuve won - it was a major event…….Seems that is no longer the case…..At least I don’t hear much about it anymore…...


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Many of you probably rec'd the "virtual" memo, but in case you didn't, "Ollabelle" is performing @ MD's "DelFest" this wkd.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Thank You, JTF!

It was "Serenade to a Cuckoo" and sounded like a jazz classic, JTF. Thanks--and have a great Memorial Day weekend!


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Posted by:

Steve

Or as that other classy pianist, Schroeder, might say, " peanuts envy".


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Height

As someone who used to be 5 Ft 3 in and is now down to 5 foot even, take it from me, Height matters.


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Posted by:

Mike

bob w: thanks for that Jeff Beck link...always loved Dylan's "Nashville Skyline" version.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Kevin, we managed to sneak in "Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You" from the Jeff Beck Group during the dinner hour. There a few "knowing" nods from old friends.

It was a great event and not a dry eye in the place when Chris, decked out in his dress blues, danced with my eighty three year old Mom.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Mr V: Taking over Paul Simon's songbook? As a Peter, you already are a rock - plus you live on an island.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Cut Across Jerry Lee

bob w: just saw the Cut Across Shorty video....great - I had never seen the original before. Link above is a similar theme........by the way, were you able to distract the wedding DJ long enough to slip on some Jeff Beck last weekend?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Or, as Richard would have called it, pianist envy.


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Posted by:

Spirit

Subject: Height vs. length

And, as we all know from the infamous '68 Ronnie Hawkins "strip of meat" interview in Rolling Stone, the rather short Mr. Levon rules when it comes to length.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Beautiful "Opus 40" opens for the season this wkd.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Short People

Jeff, I think my point was simply that if you were looking at Garth at such an angle that he seemed six foot tall, then you had to be looking up quite acutely. Height is something that seems to be exaggerated in rock biographies. Even Paul Simon claims to be "five foot two" but standing next to a five foot lady, he's shorter than her. One ponders why it matters. I'd rather lose a foot in height and be blessed with Paul Simon's musical and lyrical abilities.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Cuckoo

Charlie, the only reference I can think of is Serenade To A Cuckoo by Roshand Roland Kirke which was covered by Jethro Tull.


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Posted by:

DEE

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Joe J & bassmanlee

Joe J: your query of a days ago...am here, lurking.

bassmanlee: Are you speaking of "Flattened Fauna"? I have my copy in the car. But I don't have the cook(ery) book.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

My Theme Time Radio......cont'd


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Speaking of Major Lance - the father of Susan Boyle, I believe - note the similarity between his "Um Um Um" and our guys' "Uh Uh Uh". Proof, if you need it, that Jefferson Airplane's were the first Grunt Records.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: The Kinks - Celluloid Heroes

The above link that puts some cliches to good use. A lovely song and favorite version of it......very clever Bill M - of course no one other than a few Canadian's will know that you were referring to Robert Cliche - a former associate of a well known scoundrel - and brown paper bag man/former PM


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: Col. Hampton's commission is an honorary one in the army of the surreal, following in the footsteps of Generals Zappa & Beefheart. As I recall, Kris Kristofferson attained the rank of captain as Army Ranger helicopter pilot.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, Major Lance wouldn't have ranked the imagined Colonel but General Johnson and the Chairmen of the Board could have ordered him around.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: get me rewrite ..

Kevin J: I would contend that Cliche is the last refuge of a scoundrel.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Some thoughts on theft....

See link about Dylan theft ( ? ) and read some of the comments. Funny sidebar to this is some years ago I was listenning to a discussion on sports radio station.....one of the hosts made mention of Samuel Johnson's famous quote "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"...the other host got all worked up insisting that it was a Bob Dylan quote! Bob of course had prefaced the line in Sweetheart like You with "They say....


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: What an astounding collection of tidbits you have tucked away in that brain of yours! Were there any higher-ranking military officers (also Ret., presumably) in all of rock and roll? (General Johnson doesn't count, nor do General Stoneman, Admiral Halsey or Steamboat Lee.)


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Charlie Y

Could it have been The Cuckoo Song by Mike Oldfield? It is wonderful. I've been trying (no luck so far) to find a download of it to buy. I want to add it to the CD I'm putting together for my niece.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: See the glory...

Bill M: As a Band link -- Col. Bruce Hampton (Ret.) of the Hampton Grease Band appeared in Billy Bob Thornton's "Sling Blade" with other musicians including Mickey Jones. He has also been immortalized in song by Susan Tedeschi in "Hampmotized".

In answer to JeffO:

"Their southern sky was clouded
by a savage winter
Every patron saint
hung on the wall
Shared the room with 20 sinners

See the glory
of the royal scam"


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Posted by:

Julie

Heading up north to the woods for the long Memorial Day weekend, but before I leave I just wanted to say thanks to Joan, Steve and Dlew for some friendly words they sent my way yesterday.

Have a great weekend everyone, wherever you spend it!


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

My Theme Time Radio. (Just borrowing the title, of course.)


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

David P: Thanks for that Hampton band snippet! Me, I think three of the Halifax's finest musical minutes occur on a 1965 45 by the Five Sounds called "Loadin' Coal" (see link). Coal was historically of great importance to Nova Scotia's economy, so this particular record has the virtue of marrying local concerns to a very strong Hawksish Bo Diddley sound. A bunch of superb musicians, most of whom (after an album as the Central Nervous System where they covered Lonnie Mack's "Why") wandered west to play in Toronto bands like Lighthouse and Dr Music - or with Anne Murray. And - wait for the Band link - Five Sounds singer Doug Billard and wife were playing one room at the Beverly Hills Motor Inn the very same night as Levon Helm, Jerry Penfound, Pat Travers and Dr John et al got up to jam with Ronnie Hawkins's current crop of Hawks in the main room in '77.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The lower limbs on the Tree of Life (and knowledge of good and evil)

Subject: Bob is good, Bob is great, let us thank him........

I've always thought of Dylan as one of my favorite poets. I also have some favorite plumbers and carpenters. I think that Dylan has spent most of his life trying to get the idea across that just because he's a good artist doesn't mean he knows the Secret of Life, or anything more than the average guy on the street. Being famous is kind of a paradox: you want to be recognized for your work, but you don't want to be recognized when you're having dinner in a restaurant.

Kevin J.-- I sincerely admire a person who can go through life knowing he's saved lives, I don't think many of us are given the opportunity. When I was a lifeguard over 40 years ago, I took my canoe out on Lake Minnewaska a couple of times to help a swimmer who was thrashing around. Maybe they could have thrashed their way to shore, I'll never know. In the service I was involved in a friendly fire incident in 1970. On balance, I have a lot of trouble working it out so that I'm in God's good books. I'm hoping that on my Day of Judgement they tell me not to sweat the small stuff; the reason I'm going to Hell is because I didn't go to church on Sundays. And my left hand always knew what my right hand was doing. And I didn't always feed His sheep.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Pete, may I also point out to you the words about and maybe in my first post answereing Ari about Garth's height.

Now a amateur psychologist like yourself may think that you posted your post just to point out that you are taller than Garth. You could ask your inner amateur what he would have thought about that had someone else posted it.



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Posted by:

Mike H.

Web: My link

Subject: Little Sammy @ Fishkill, NY's "Keltic House" tonight.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hey Pete, How tall I am varies daily. Levon has always been taller than I. Heroes? Now you are getting even more psychoskedoodled in these here several simulcasted conversation. When I was a kid, I might have considered Crazy Horse as a hero. As an adult, I don't think I've ever had a hero. Now there are people I've admired for various accomplishments, but believing in Batman and Wonder Woman may appeal to others.

There are considerable aspects to Ari's question. If ari is asking how tall were the Band memebrs in their prime, the pictures he views from the past, that would be different then than today. Injuries and age effect height. Rick had injuries,. Garth has aged. Also, Garth wears a hat almost all the time these days, that effects perception as well. Try to recall that when you saw Garth at the soundcheck that one time you were younger than he.

Judging from present day gauges, and factoring in effects of age and life, I'd take a stab and go with Garth maybe being 6' or better back in the day.

All that said, while it may be important to you Pete, how tall the guys are, it really doesn't matter to me. Unless it effected how well they played their instruments.

Then again, when will someone here decide that Dylan's height influenced his borrowing of lyrics from other writer's?

Attention Steely Dan Experts and fans!|n Stabbio! Report for duty.

Does anyone here know if Fagen and Becker knew that Royal was Robbie's actual middle name?


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Posted by:

David P.

Let's cut the old man some slack -- Dylan celebrates his 68th birthday this Sunday.

Bill M: Halifax was uniquely celebrated in song by Atlanta's Hampton Grease Band (from the 1971 Columbia album "Music To Eat"), combining tourist bureau hype with an encyclopedic viewpoint:

"We would like for you to come to Halifax
Come and breathe some of our air
...Colonel Edward Cornwallis
Brought strength to the English position
He established a civil government"


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: SAVED

Brien: I have saved some lives…I would think most people have…..especially Bob Dylan. He no doubt knew way back when he was tangled up with Joan Baez that a plant based diet was far superior to a meat based one…..wanting to save or at least extend the lives of the assembled pointy heads that had converged on their apartment, he proceeded to remove all the meat from Ms. Baez’s stew. She just saw a self centered soon to be ex-boyfriend….others recognized the presence of God……. He or it or whatever was under 6 ft tall……


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: they haunt us still

Joan: I've noticed that journalists are prone apply the word 'brilliant' to anyone smarter than themselves. I suspect that Carol's estimation of Rick's height should be seen in the same way.

Peter V: Bumbles too was 6 foot 3 and rising - but he left without telling us what he'd topped out at. Or maybe he's still growing ...

Accompanying a review of the new "Brothers Bloom" movie in today's "Toronto Star" is a little side interview with the director, who says he took considerable inspiration from our guys in the TLW movie. He sees one of the Blooms as Robbie. (See link.)

In another echo, the summer '09 issue of the Canuckistani Automobile Assoc's magazine has an article titled "Cities" of song that dips into the music scenes of six North American cities - Austin (SxSW, Doug Sahm et al), Halifax (Sloan, Jill Barber, Old Man Luedecke (boo)), Montreal (Oscar, Arcade Fire), Nashville (C&W, Fisk singers), NYC (Gershwins, Apollo) and Toronto. Re Toronto, it says "... But while it's diverse enough to support multiple musical genres, Toronto's greatest impact has been felt in the roots/alternative country genre. That lineage can be traced back to the early 1960s, when younsters Robbie Robertson, Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, Levon Helm and Garth Hudson came together as The Hawks, the backing band for Toronto-by-way-of-Arkansas rockabilly star Ronnie Hawkins. They would eventually split from Hawkins and go on to become The Band, pioneers of the country-rock movement and a vast influence on everyone from Bob Dylan to The Beatles and the Rolling Stones.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Have a safe & wonderful holiday wkd everyone!


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Posted by:

Steve

I think of people like Madoff more as psychopaths. The rules aren't for them and they have no empathy( the important part)for their victims.

Peter, saying people who want to save the world are sociopaths who don't care about people is a kind of shotgun approach. I find the animal rights people fit into the sociopath club quite well but not environmentalists, at least not the ones I know.

I thought Dylan defined himself quite well as a , " Musical Expeditionary ". I can picture him slashing his way through the musical jungle, taking record collections he needs, claiming to have gone places he's never been, putting his name on lyrics he discovers much like the expeditionaries of bygone empires claimed "unoccupied lands" for their kings and queens.


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Posted by:

Joanne and Charlotte

Location: England , Sarah pig land

Subject: Hello

hello we love the band although when we want to talk to you we always get a blank thing in then chat room as there is sometimes no one talking so it freezes and does not refresh. why does this happen? can it be open more often?? Thank you I am buying your album on iTunes yay ;) heeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooo


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Posted by:

Peter V

How tall are you, Jeff? Our heroes tend to look tall to us, but at 6 foot one and a bit (I was 6 foot 3 at age 21), I'm a good deal taller than Garth. Like all heroes I've met, I was astonished to find he was not a six foot four inch person. We had this discussion on heights years ago and it turned REALLY silly with fans of each member insisting they were the tallest. Several suggested that Levon was six feet tall in spite of all evidence to the contrary, and one or two Levonistas even believed Levon was taller than Robbie. They have been photographed together. From photos, Robbie and Rick appear to be around similar height and the other three shorter. Ah! But on stage the other three sit down. Complicates the measure.

Being tall doesn't make you a better person (except in my case). It does mean you bang your head on things a lot and are more prone to backache from stooping.


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Posted by:

daena (said dana) gallant

Location: florida

Subject: the subject about dylan being a sociopath ..however that's spelled..

my oppinion is that bob dylan is a complex person a little of this a little of that ..sociopath i don't know ..that's not my perseption of him , but then agin i've nevet met him nor have a lot of you all i'd would assume..i think sometimes people take one situation as that being the person all the time ..such as if someone meets a famous person , and their a jerk that time they assume that must be their personality all the time , and maybe it was them having a bad day , and then you have situations like the people/person that robbie told to f... off at the airport ..i think people sometimes deserve to be yelled at because they think that just because the world sees someone as famous they have no write to a privite life which i think sucks , and should be changed ..weather that will ever happen probably not , but it should be ..most fans claim to love their famous musician's , and other famous people , but yet they disprove it by practicly stalking them ect. , and the popurotzy type reporters which have no respect for people the world sees as famous ... well that's all i gotta say about that for now anyway .. daena was here today..


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Web: My link

Subject: Well, at least it's in his handwriting ....

The talk in here about people in their youth having passed off popular song lyrics as their own reminded me yesterday of the troubled teenager in the movie The Squid and the Whale, who passes off Pink Floyd's lyrics to Hey You as his own work in school, receiving much needed approval from his teachers . . . until he's caught. It also reminded me of the very adult Bob Dylan's unattributed appropriation in Modern Times of substantial pieces of Civil War poet Henry Timrod's work. Today, I was surprised to learn from the New York Times (see link above) that Dylan too apparently started the practice in his teens. The noted auction house Christie's was about to offer for sale the original handwritten copy of "Little Buddy," a poem supposedly written in 1957 by 16-year-old Bobby Zimmerman for his summer camp newspaper -- only it turns out that the poem was actually a song previously written and recorded by Hank Snow. Christie's is hanging tough and offering the item at auction next month anyway, as one of Dylan's "earliest known handwritten lyrics." Hmmmm.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Question for JTF

JTull Fan: I drove through Richmond today and appropiately heard (on the XM Radio "Deep Tracks" station) an interesting instrumental with the word "Cuckoo" in the title. Can you shed some light on the tune? It was a lot better than "Islands," by the way...


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Posted by:

Ari S.

How tall was Robbie and Richard.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Now if he would just move that goddamned Port-a-Potty.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Kevin J - that existential point of view is one way of looking at things but as far as I'm concerned..., then anything can be considered saving lives based on metaphorical justifications.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Ari

According to Carol Rick Was 6 Ft.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Garth is reasonably tall, I'd say about 6'.Maybe more.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Ari

Levon, closer to 5'7" to 5'8" standing straight.


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Posted by:

Ari

Odd question: How tall were all the Band members? Robbie seems like he's the tallest along with Garth and Levon seems shortest. Is Levon like 5'6?


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Posted by:

Norbert

Joan, good post, thanks.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Dylan

I didn't mean to create such a dust up. A sociopath is not a criminal, but they have a great need to control and dominate others. They have very little care for other's feelings. A classic example is a story Joan Baez told about Dylan. She had made a stew for company. Dylan came in and ate all the meat out of the stew before she could even serve it. It didn't bother him at all. He felt "entitled" One in every 25 people is a sociopath. They can be found in all walks of life, Ministers, Teachers, musicians. Some very brilliant and creative people are sociopaths.

Interesting book; "The Sociopath Next Door" gives insight into this.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Brien…..Garth explained it this way 30 years ago......

“The greatest priests on 52nd Street and on the streets of New York City were the musicians. They were doing the greatest healing work. And they knew how to punch through music which would cure and make people feel good."


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: God Saves - Espo scores on the rebound!

Peter: You have just described the exact opposite of Dylan – since when has he ever been a save the world type? I do not, as a matter of fact, trust any of those wingnuts……But…. Joan said directly that Bob Dylan was a sociopath. Some of us live in a town where the front pages of all 4 papers are splashed today with headlines of two people just arrested for kidnapping and killing a young girl. That is sociopathic behaviour…….Dissing GE Smith or sleeping with a roadies wife does not qualify……


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

How does Dylan save lives?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: How many roads …

Possibly not. Some of the most sociopathic people I've met are up for saving the world, but can't stand their neighbours. I think of someone who drove several hundred miles to attempt to rescue an injured seagull by taking it to a specialist sanctuary, leaving her pre-teen kids to fend for themselves. Don't trust people who want to save the world (or animals). It's compensation for not liking or getting involved with real people.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Say What

Joan: Just having written “Blowin’ in the Wind” is enough to disqualify a man from the sociopath club is it not? I rarely disagree with you but a person would have to have understood and felt the hurt in someone else’s life to write a lyric like that….no? Quirky – yes, Disrespectful to many – yes. Madoff is a sociopath…….Dylan saves lives….


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: It's drummer Pete Thomas and bassist Davey Faragher of Elvis' band The Imposters.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Julie/ Todd/Dylan

Hi Julie! its so good to see you back.

Todd, I hope not, but having blown 2 water pumps in my day (One on I 95 in CT. on Christmas Eve), it does sound like the water pump. About a $700 job.

Dylan is a sociopath. He is brilliant, but he doesn't really care who he hurts. People are amazed when he does something nice. It is noteworthy because it is so out of character.


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Thanks for the link. Any idea who the bassist and drummer are? I like how Burton goes way over to the music stand to flip through some pages - presumably so as to know when best to insert his tasty (if under mixed) solo.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Our roadkill in Dorset would be foxes, pheasants, badgers, rabbits, and hedgehogs. Deer strike is rare, but when I was a teenager, deer and wild pony strike was a very common cause of death in the New Forest region. They fenced all the main roads through (advantages of a small country) and it’s 40 mph speed limit on the unfenced roads. The deer try to get out of the way, but the ponies don’t bother and seem to enjoy standing in the road in the dark. Who said horses are intelligent? . Pheasants (NOT peasants) are a major one where I drive weekly.

I have a great T-shirt from Alaska with”Roadkill Café” on the front and a menu on the back.

Band link: deer roadkill story.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: David Ackles

Bill M: On the Spectacle show Elton & Elvis dueted on David Ackles' "Down River". See link above to YouTube video of the performance. If you look closely you can also spot Allen Toussaint on organ and James Burton on guitar!


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Web: My link

Subject: Road Kill and Allen Toussaint

Not that these have anything in common!

We've no shortage, Peter. Skunks, possums, rabbits, groundhogs, and foxes here in the Northeast, along with the occasional muskrat or turtle in the wetter spots. And DEER, lots of deer, some of which take the unlucky bastard who hits them along to the great beyond. They look pretty fragile, but it's like hitting a wall. In the Southwest they have Armadillos. There is a actually a (tongue-in-cheek) published field guide to North American roadkill.

Did anyone see the NPR webcast of the Allen Toussaint show at the Village Vanguard last night? There's supposedly a stream of it at the link above that we will be checking out shortly...


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

David P: Thanks for mentioning David Ackles, even if you're just channelling Elton. I've always thought that his classic song, "American Gothic" was his own exemplary stab at doing a Band song - and that "Moving To Montana" was Frank Zappa's stab at "American Gothic".

And still on Ackles, his first album, featured a couple of members of the then-extant Rhinoceros, one of whom, singer-pianist Alan Gerber, has reemerged from his Steve-area redout of 35 years to play at a church in Toronto on May 23. I saw in the paper today that his special guest will be the other Rhinoceros vocalist, John Finley, it should be interesting.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Sir Elton John

Don't be alarmed now, but the only hogs bustlin' in the hedgerows over here are the wild & domesticated swine kind.

Elton John, like many musicians, has always been an avid listener of many types of music. When he appeared recently on Elvis Costello's Spectacle program, he discussed the influence of Leon Russell, Laura Nyro and the more obscure David Ackles, as well as The Band. Sir Elton is a part-time Atlanta resident. A friend of mine used to work at the Tower megastore here (now long gone) and he said that Sir Elton would often stop in on Tuesdays, when new releases came out, to purchase almost every one.


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Posted by:

Peter V

No hedgehogs! What do you do for roadkill? Do Peter Rabbit books make sense to kids?

That’s really funny that they got it wrong. There are some Disney films where various American mammals skip around the supposedly English countryside. I think the remake of 101 Dalmations is the classic on that.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Dylan interview in Rolling Stone

In general, interviewing Bob Dylan is taxing for most interviewers and my impression has been that the result has been less than insightful. This interview is however exceptional and likely tells the reader a lot more about the (almost) 68 year old 'song and dance man' and the changes he has gone through, as reflected at least partially in the new album lyrics. I highly recommend it.


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Posted by:

PSB

Location: Philly
Web: My link

Subject: Blonde On Blonde and other stuff

David, You are right about Blonde on Blonde not being released until June. I have no idea where that May date came from, except it may have been possibly the original scheduled date of release. The album did not hit the stores until the end of June 1966. The single of "I Want You" was released first, the third single prior to the album. The flip side was the live version of "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues," which was recorded in Liverpool on May 14th (which has one of Robbie's greatest solos). So that May release date is just ridiculous, and interestingly enough is not longer at the official site. I remember the first time I saw the album. I was on my way to summer camp and stopped in one of my favorite record stores in Times Square and there it was. I'd been calling various record stores as well as the Columbia distribution center for weeks. The first single from the album was "Once Of Us Must Know," which was released in either late February or March. As for Infidels, it's too bad Dylan didn't leave the album in the hands of Mark Knopfler, we'll never know what it would have sounded like or what songs would have been on it. The lyrics on Together Through Life are a collaboration, not entirely written by Hunter. Probably someone out there is already at work trying to figure out who wrote what line. Of course Rick Danko sang "Lovin' You Is Sweeter Than Ever," which he also used to open his his initial solo shows following the relase of his first album. As he and his band walked onstage, they would sing the chorus as they strapped on their instruments. I ask him out that song in the interview I did with him, which can be found in the Interviews section of my site.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Julie: Calling us 'gents' is a bit of an exaggeration, but I know you meant well. Also, the lines you quoted - "I saw grandma yesterday down at the store / Well she's really doing fine for 84 / Well she asked me if someday I'd fix her barn / Poor old girl, she needs a hand to run the farm" - could also be right out of Randy Newman's (Band?) pastiche, "My Old Kentucky Home" (see link).

NB/Bonk: It may be of signal importance that Chester station is the nearest one to Robbie's mother's house on First Avenue, though service didn't start on the Bloor-Danforth line until '66.



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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Comfort in another country...

Peter: There are no hedgehogs in North America, although their possum cousins are abundant. More than likely, a West Viginia feast would feature a wild boar pit-cooked in the ground. Up in the mountain hollows, corn would not only be good for the goose, but for the highlander, as an essential ingredient for the moonshine still.


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Posted by:

Steve

Hi, Julie, thanks and welcome back.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Goodnight, Julie

wherever you've gone...


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: LH

Love the levon promo video. Levon looks great. He seems to have that Ralph Stanley air about him.


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Posted by:

Julie

Subject: To some Canadian gents and a Connecticut Yankee

Hi there Northern Boy. And thanks for your kind words. You too Kevin John. Always a pleasure to hear from both of you too. :)

I actually DID disappear for awhile there Kevin, so thanks for noticing. For the first time in several years, I got months behind in the GB. As much as I enjoy hanging out here most of the time--and I really, truly do--there just haven't been enough hours in my days lately. Which is why I'm replying to you from my corner booth here at The Night Owl Diner. I don't get much time to myself until this whole dang house is asleep.

So I'm sorry (and disappointed) that I missed your Jimmy Page links. Although I suppose it's lucky for everyone else that I did, as they might've inspired me to do more dazed and confused rambling on about Jimmy and Led Zeppelin, which I've done more than enough of around here.

But I'll tell ya, I happened to catch a bit of "The Song Remains the Same" on TV recently, and I don't feel a bit embarrassed about having had this "thing" for Jimmy way back when. And I'm not just talking Tiger Beat territory here, but also for his amazing talent and signature style and unaffected coolness on guitar. For awhile there during Led Zeppelin's prime in the first half of the '70s, he was The Bomb. And in a much more unassuming way than Robert Plant The Peacock, though I'm liking Robert more and more these days as he mellows into old age.

Steve: I'm two hours late...well, three hours by your time...but HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Hope you had a swell day.

Todd: Sorry to hear about your car troubles, but you couldn't ask for a better soundtrack to accompany them, could you? Like Kevin said a few days back, your posts are always a pleasure to read. You make even a car breakdown sound interesting. Your posts often read like great essays, never just a dry reciting of facts (musical or otherwise) but somehow infused with "human interest." They're one of the many wonderful and indispensable "elements" of this GB. I don't often find time to comment on them, but I always read them and I always get something of value out of them. So please keep 'em coming. :)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Flying across the sticks …

I love “Country Comfort” in fact, though I prefer Rod Stewart’s version … I saw Long John Baldry when he had Elton John on piano and Rod Stewart on vocals, so they’re old bandmates, and at the time Rod was doing him a favour by recording it. Rod’s husky voice suits the song. Bernie Taupin is in Classic Albums: The Band and the whole of Tumbleweed Connection was their conscious attempt to be Band-like.

I suspect their hedgehog verse is a British idea of what food might be like in the deepest valleys of West Virginia. In Britain, hedgehog baked in clay is supposed to be a classic Romany (gypsy) dish. And the rockin’ chair comes from the song that mentions old Virginia. Then you go back to grandma at the store, and you have a gender switch from Ragtime Willie. And you have the whole thing about ‘liking old folks’ that Robbie did in every interview around 1969 / 1970. So a very good choice. The number of Band connections in there is astonishing … I just Googled.

They have a train (Catch a cannonball) roaring past a (cripple) creek, (whispering) pines falling everywhere, a truck that’s going home (to Little Bessie?), trouble with new machinery at the well and cutting man power, therefore jobs (King Harvest), a horse-drawn man till his dying day (my old horse Jethro), and the “old fat goose flying across the sticks” is heading north after being fattened on southern corn (I’d rather burn in Canada than freeze here in the south). Well, it’ll be my listening all day. The tune just stuck hard in my mind (as it’s often done before).

You would have been caught with “The Weight.” I’d have tried “Blowing in the Wind” at that age and been caught for certain.

In those days, plagiarism required skill, research and effort. Now it’s the major problem in tertiary education because of the net.


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Posted by:

Julie

Subject: Back in the "Comfort" Zone

Ouch Peter, you had to dredge up the ole hedgehog verse, didn't ya? I'd forgotten about that one. Hmm...can't imagine why, seeing as how it's so memorably, wince-inducingly bad.

Never could figure out what all that nonsense about the hedgehog being done in clay between the bricks meant. Sounds like an upscale, trendy method of cooking hedgehog for dinner or something. I can picture Granny Clampett rolling her eyes and saying just throw the dadburn thing in a kettle of water and be done with it.

But your verse perfectly illustrates what I mean about the song feeling like "Band-lite," almost a parody of a Band song really. I mean, you got your rockin' chair a'creakin' on the porch, even a herdsman a la "Christmas Must Be Tonight," although in this case I guess Bernie's herdsman came before Robbie's.

Like Bill said, pretty noxious stuff coming from the pen of a guy who must've been in his late 20s-early 30s when he wrote it. But to a teacher hearing student after student read their simplistic, moon-spoon-June type lyrics aloud in class, lines like these might've stood out a bit from the pack:

I saw grandma yesterday down at the store

Well she's really doing fine for 84

Well she asked me if someday I'd fix her barn

Poor old girl, she needs a hand to run the farm.

See...not bad for a 13-year-old, which is how I was able to pull it off until honesty got the better of me.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Rhythm Jimmy

So just where were you on the weekend when I was seeking, so desperately, some bona fide musical discourse and scholarship ? Probably avoiding that whole infantile, weekend GB crowd, I suppose. Well, consider me schooled, RJ. I'm ashamed to admit that I'd totally forgotten about Whoopee John, Ernst and Eddie Wilfahrt and the whole Rhythm & Bohemian crew out at Pelican Falls, Minnesota. Pre-dating of course, the whole "R & B show" going on over at Frostbite Falls. (Rest assured however, that I'm well aware of Paul McCartney having been in a musical group pre-dating "Wings". I think it was Bumbles who set me straight on that one.) NB


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Jer, Jimmy, he's banjoing and accordionizing that night... Btw, we were at that same Cabooze show with you Jimmy... but didn't cross pathes...


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Bingo, Bonk !

Correct Bonk - the Chester subway station, as in "HEY WAIT A MINUTE, CHESTER is coming up next. I gotta get off the train".

Not sure I remember all of the earlier questions Bonk, but you got three out of the first five. I think # 6 is in dispute. It was the Lazy River Ranch/TeePee Drive-In question. Why don't we just say you're now 4 out of 6, and Bill is 5 out of 6. And while I don't like to brag, I'm of course 6 for 6, so both of you guys are going to have to try harder. NB


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

A rock star asks......


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: QUIZ

Northern Boy. Great tricky question. And the answer is CHESTER. I used to wash cars at a car dealership on the south side of Danforth between Broadview and Pape when I was a kid. And the closest stop was Chester. Please repeat the other 6 questions as I missed some. Thanks, B


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Web: My link

Subject: Origins of R&B

C'mon, N Boy, everybody knows that the popular Rhythm & Bohemian style was played in Pelican Rapids around 1922, at least three years before Eddie Wilfahrt brought it to Frostbite Falls.


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Posted by:

Dexy

Web: My link

Subject: John Doe - The Band

John Doe was interviewed by Terry Gross on her NPR show "Fresh Air" this week about his new country album. I heard part of it, and it happened to be about his love for The Band - their harmonies and overall feel. The whole interview is at the link above.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Zzz, It seems to me I remember Pete but I didn't know he was from these parts. I say ya can't have to many Band fans.

Todd, The car overheating almost sounds like you blew a hose, hopefully thats all it is. Good Luck...


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Heep of Trouble

Bill, Uriah Heep deserved to be plagiarized for plagiarizing their name straight out of a Dickens novel ! (Did Brent B. have a bro' whose name also began with B. ?) You wouldn't believe how hard it is to start a serious musical discussion here on the weekend. I threw out the potentially great topic of Frostbite Falls, Minn. as "the home of R & B", but not got nary a nibble. Let me tell you, I won't be wasting these gems on the weekend crowd anymore Bill, as these people are mostly just a bunch of sillies. (Bob W. kept going on about moose and squirrel, for some strange reason !). Anyway, I 'm starting to see why you only hang out here through the week.

Question #7 (you're 5 for 6 so far). 7. By virtue of its name only, which TTC subway station has the greatest Band-link ? (no googling TTC maps, but it's on the east line heading out to Warden. Busker questions to follow). NB

How nice to hear from Julie !


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Virginia Beach

Subject: Dead Again

I was in Williamsburg, Virginia today on business and finished my morning appoinment around noon, the time of day when XM Radio's Grateful Dead channel runs an entire concert from their amazing archives each day. Remarkably enough, today's selection was the September 12, 1973 concert recorded at William & Mary Hall on the College of William & Mary campus, about a mile from where I was at the time.

I took the opportunity to swing by William & Mary Hall, grab a parking spot in the shade and roll down the windows while listening to part a show from what many fans (me included) consider the finest year of the long touring history of the Grateful Dead. I sent an e-mail to a high school friend who was at that show during his college days. He went on to become a musician and novelist with a lot of influence from the Dead.

Now if we can just lobby XM-Sirius to start a Dylan/The Band channel...


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I haven't read a lot about Dylan in my time, but what little I have and what I have heard, I get the distinct impression that aside from a journalistic point of view, I don't think I'd very much like him as he comes off way to scatterbrained in the way he treats people. By appearances only, he would seem to like you one day and despise you the next. Which really shouldn't be that surprising as folks who are richly gifted tend to be a bit eccentric, off kilter or flat out pricks - it isn't to say there aren't nice geniouses out there either.

And not equating the next artist I'm going to mention in the same breath as Dylan but certainly admirable in the little multi-national musical adventure he's helped create, Gene Simmons, from a friends first hand experience is quite the first rate prick. If you can't make him money or want to - you know - do him, he just doesn't have a whole lot of time for ya.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Bob w, yeah, Julie Driscoll and Brian Auger and the Trinity did the AbFab "Wheel's".


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Posted by:

bob w.

Come together......Auger played with Rod Stewart and didn't he cover "This Wheel's On Fire" a while back?


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Posted by:

Pat B

I just heard a bit of Brian Auger's soundcheck in a bar on the first floor of the building I work in. Still a monster.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Above link is RS's version. Proof that good songs can sometimes make for bad poetry.

Julie - Great to see your name again. After missing out on the Sebastian era and varrious other Jimmy Page links without any comment, I had thought you had disappeared forever.

Todd: Don't put a Deadhead sticker on that Cadilac!!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Julie and her opus

Peter V: The girl was not just a plagiarist but a clever tactician. Aside from the dim bulbs who'd claim Beatles or top 40 lyrics as their own, most of us would have overreached and selected something far more 'poetic' than we could have managed ourselves. But no middle-aged teacher would have suspected something truly turdesque like that.


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Posted by:

David P.

Wille Dixon does receive co-writing credit on "My Wife's Hometown" along with Dylan & Robert Hunter.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT - By the side of the road

Subject: Don’t Mess With Dylan

I fear that I’ve angered the Dylan gods. I had to see a client this afternoon. On my way there I decided to play "Blonde On Blonde" in the car, as it was on my mind from the earlier discussion here. All was going well…beautiful spring day here in CT. Light traffic and Dylan on the car stereo. About ½ way through ‘Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands’ the car (which has never given me an ounce of trouble in the past), started running rough, very hot, and white smoke started billowing out from under the hood. I pulled off the highway, turned off the engine, popped the hood and noticed the strong smell of engine coolant. I think that I probably blew the water pump. Never got all the way through ‘Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands’, waited on the side of the road for a tow truck, and just got back from the mechanic, and am now waiting for a diagnosis. Probably be a $1,200.00 bill by the time that I’m done.

I guess that’s what I get for messing with “Blonde On Blonde”. I should have just left it alone…..”They'll stone you when you're riding in your car”…..Indeed they will. Lesson learned…thanks a lot Zimmy!!
......maybe I should have bought a Cadillac.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Teenage plagiarism

Julie, I'm not entirely sure I'd claim Country Comfort:

Now the old fat goose is flying cross the sticks

The hedgehog's done in clay between the bricks

And the rocking chair's creaking on the porch

Across the valley moves the herdsman with his torch

But it was an excellent idea. I'll remember it and suggest it to my offspring.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: done like dinner

sadavid: If their game is hockey, at least as played by Tiger Shrimp Williams, then that was a prawn on the chessboard. Reminds me of a line in "White Rabbit" ...


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Posted by:

bob w.

The problem is ol' Mr. Zimmerman never really shook the habit.


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Posted by:

Julie

Subject: I Was a Teenage...Plagiarist

Bill, your comment about passing off song lyrics as original poetry reminded me that for a brief shining moment as an 8th grader, I had my whole music class believing that the lyrics to Elton John's "Country Comfort" were actually something I'D written.

Our assignment was to write an original song to share with the class at the end of the hour. With Elton John being my first serious musical obsession, and being fully immersed in his recordings at the time, I knew those lyrics by heart, and for some reason thought it would be kind of fun (and slightly daring) to see if I could fool the class (for a little while at least, never intending to permanently claim Bernie Taupin's lyrics as my own).

I did of course reveal my little "secret" at the end of the hour. But it sure was fun while it lasted listening to everyone rave about what a great song I had written (including my teacher, who, apparently--and fortunately for me--wasn't a big Elton John fan or she would've recognized those Band-like [or perhaps Band-lite is more like it] lyrics immediately). :)


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: only a pawn

Bill M: my guess is he was helping a buddy fill out column inches in _The Herzl Herald_ so they would have more time to sneak off and practise smoking cigarettes.

And no, I haven't located the Franklin comp. I tried my tiny local used-CD emporium, but for the purposes of the present quest they're too tiny - and not local enough.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Ah... young Ms Wilkenfeld

Brien Sz, thanks for the link to the Tal Wilkenfeld video :-P What a talent!


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Thanks for the link. My guess is that it was a bit of 'homework' that Bob was required to complete at camp. You must've had guys in grade 10 English class who'd brag about having successfully passed off Uriah Heep lyrics as original poetry? (NB: My specific point of reference here is Brent B in Mr Dempsey's class.)


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto

Subject: Claudia Cardinale

Claudia Cardinale apparently is going strong with an autobiography written this decade, regular appearances at Academy awards presentation, and other projects and awards. Read about her on line. It's all there. Her countenance surely graced that double album and made it more than it was... an excellent album made even better with that photo in the gatefold.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: blame Canada

I was annoyed a couple months back to hear Dylan's reworking of "Trouble No More" on the radio. I thought, A) that the reworking didn't improve on either Muddy's single or the Allmans' cover and; B) that Bob probably didn't bother to credit the composer.

Just by way of introducing the funny little article at [My link].


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Subject: Side track

Great reads on Dylan but an aside for a moment - I came across this video of Tal Wilkenfeld - to be so young and talented. It's a clip from a morning show, so there's a brief interview.


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Posted by:

rich

Subject: blind willie mctell and more

thats a really great story about blind willie mctell from 'tell tale signs' kev.its told by a writer called larry 'ratso' sloman.he wrote a great book about bob called 'on the road with bob dylan'.its about his travels with bob on the 'rolling thunder' tour.its a great read.dylan himself provides a review of the book on the back cover.he calls the book,'the war and peace of rock and roll'!!.its well worth checking out.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Nashville Cats

While they're associated with their session work for country artists, the Nashville musicians on "Blonde On Blonde" could also rock. Charlie McCoy, Wayne Moss and Kenneth Buttrey at the time were part of one of Nashville's best rock groups, The Escorts. Another comtemporary Nashville rock act was Ronnie & the Daytonas, featuring John "Bucky" Wilkin, who was the son of songwriter Marijohn Wilkin, co-writer of "Long Black Veil".

Back in the early '70s I got to speak briefly with Charlie McCoy at a country caravan of stars show in Atlanta. Everyone backstage was complimenting him on his work on the Hee Haw tv show. His eyes seemed to light up when I asked him about working with Dylan, replying in so many words that he enjoyed the challenge of branching out in another musical direction at the time. It was totally the opposite reaction I received when meeting the reclusive Joe South around that same time, who clearly didn't want to talk at all.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Blondes have more fun.......

Great posts about Blonde on Blonde and potential rearrangements…….the emergence of the CD shortened a lot of careers by exposing songs that never should have seen the light of day to the public…….New artist puts out CD ….producer stacks 4 strongest cuts up front….Customer is deprived of finding that middle of 2nd side gem to tell his friends about……instead he practices bouncing his head off the floor while listening to the drivel that is tracks 9-15.

I can not listen to more than 8 songs in a row from anyone. Paul Simon explained this to Charlie Rose noting that anything more than 45 minutes and one starts to feels like they are at a university lecture and time to head for the door!! Flipping albums actually served a purpose……off the couch or bed and the body is forced to decide whether to continue or not.

Rich: There is an interesting little story in the notes from “Tell Tale Signs” where some colleague of the great man is hanging his head in disbelief after listening to the final version of one of the records……Dylan comforts him by saying something to the effect “Hey…relax it’s just an album and songs are still around and will come out at some time..” We all had heard of Mark Knofler’s grumbling for years but even I was stunned by the extent to which Infidels could have been stronger by including “Foot of Pride” and “Blind Willie Mctell”….That all said, I still love the album…Jokerman, Iand I, Don’t Fall Apart on Me Tonight and Sweetheart like You. The vinyl had a great sound ….the CD transfer was horrible. For what it is worth: “Love and Theft” and “Bootleg Series 1-3” are the two Dylan works that I never leave home without.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Another great double album, and one of the very few I've hung on to, is Funkadelic's "America Eats its Young". Even has indirect links to our guys and to Louuu (not to mention James Brown). Another of those very few is Chilliwack's second album, which sold reasonably well for its brilliant hit single, "Lonesome Mary" (see link) - though it must be said that album two consisted of two side-long studio play-sessions suited to only the totally dim or the totally enlightened.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Whatever happened to Claudia Cardinale?

Much has been written over the years about the different versions & mixes of "Blonde On Blonde". There's even a mystery surrounding the release date. Although the "official" date is often cited as May 16, 1966, there's evidence that it actually came out in late June. Then there was the controversy over the inside cover photo of Claudia Cardinale, which was replaced in later pressings.

Following the timeline of rock, another double album was released around the same time -- The Mothers of Invention's "Freak Out!". The Beach Boy's landmark recording "Pet Sounds" was released on May 16. The Beatles had released "Rubber Soul" the previous December followed by "Revolver" in August 1966 and their last tour.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Double Albums

Peter brings up a good point about 'Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands' and general listening…working or driving in a car vs. sitting down and actively listening. I generally agree, but when I was compiling this particular track listing, I was thinking about the entire album experience rather than a singles collection. So I suppose that I had active listening in mind. The epic length of the song as well as the pacing is the reason that it stays as the last track.

I don’t have BoB in LP form, and was not aware that 'Sad Eyed Lady...' had it’s own side devoted to it. I kind of like that…almost like playing one side of a single. Still, I can’t imagine BoB without it.

The car listening for me can go either way depending on the type of drive. It definitely wouldn’t work in city driving, but some of my journeys take me through the rolling hills of Western CT where there’s much less traffic, and a song like Sad Eyed Lady or other “album” tracks fit in very well, and it’s where I do some of my most focused music listening these days. Very rarely at home or at the work do I have an opportunity to listen to music uninterrupted for 45 minutes or so. In the car, I often get that.

I have BoB in three CD versions. The first single CD with the clipped faded out songs. The Gold remastered version single disc, and the double CD Remasted SACD version which I like the best. I’ve noticed that that remastered version of the SACD release is back in the stores as a single disc without the SACD mix. Presumably all of the songs are still their full length.

Dlew919, Good point about most double albums can be made into singles. I just checked, and I have many fewer double albums than I thought. Most of the double albums that I have are live albums or compilations, which don’t count in this case. I think that Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” needs to stay as a double. Other doubles that I enjoy and wouldn’t change very much if at all are Derek & The Dominoes “Layla”, the Rolling Stones “Exile On Main Street”, The Who’s “Tommy” & “Quadrophenia”. I love Springsteen’s “The River”, but that one can probably be condensed down to a very strong single. George Harrison’s “All Things Must Pass” would probably work very well as a double rather than a triple by just leaving of disc 3, which is mostly, jams as I remember. I barely ever play disc 3.

Agreed on “The White Album”. I know that it one of their “best”, but I’ve always heard it as a collection of songs rather than a true album, and I get the feeling of “solo artist with backing band” rather than the true group experience on many of the songs. I would choose "Revolver" or "Abby Road" any day out of the week over “The White Album”.

It’s interesting how technology and format can impact the creative experience. With CD’s running much longer than vinyl albums did, many groups routinely put out 50-60 minute and longer albums just because they can fit it all in. In most cases, I don’t think that has made for stronger albums. Having a 45 minute or so limitation forced artists to only choose the best for the album and leave out the filler.

I can also remember when cassettes were common and being frustrated by the changing of the original album running order to fit neatly onto both sides of the cassette. Or having a lot of blank tape on either side of the cassette before the tape would auto reverse.

I suppose that one of the best things about CD’s vs. tapes is that the gaps have been eliminated and the track listings can remain faithful to the original LP experience, but you do lose that distinct Side1/Side2 experience.

Kid’s today don’t know how easy they have it. It’s so easy to slap a bunch of songs into an iTunes playlist. I can remember making cassette tape compilations, and sitting there with a 90-minute tape, a stack of LP’s and a calculator trying to figure out the best way to use the space on the tape. I can still remember the thrill when 100 minute tapes became commonly available and feeling the luxury of all that extra space.

Mike, thanks for the links. I’ve always liked Chris Bergson’s guitar playing, but he is really maturing and coming into his own as a vocalist too. Nice stuff.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Double or Quit

I agree that most studio double albums can become singles. Live is different because you need to have the sense of a whole 90 minute show (so Rock of Ages and Before The Flood are OK). Also compilations like The Basement Tapes are different. I reckon Self-Portrait, which I believed was designed to be an ersatz Basement Tapes (because Dylan assumed everyone already had a bootleg of the basement stuff, as he once said), counts as an “imitation compilation”. Otherwise, I’d conclude that the best doubles are Blonde on Blonde and The White Album, and we’ve already suggested how to clip BoB. I always found The White Album indigestible as a whole thing.


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Posted by:

Steve

Hey, Brother From The Land Down Under, thanks. Good to hear we're on the same wave length on Stuck Inside Of Mobile. With the recent Dylan talk I listened to Bill's favorite Dylan album on Sunday trying to tune out everything but Garth. The one problem is that every time Garth would find some space Dylan would usually start in with his harmonica. I usually appreciate Dylan's use of the harmonica but had a sense he was playing it in the key of antagonism during those shows.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Chris Bergson performing Bessie Smith's "You've Been a Good Ol' Wagon" live on NYC radio station earlier this yr.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Chris Bergson Band performing "Paint My Masterpiece" live in the Netherlands recently.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Youtube.com clip from Bill Scheele's "Lookout Cleveland" opening night.

A video clip from Bill's opening night of his exhibit of Dylan & "The Band."


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: And...

happy birthday, Steverino!


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Stick it in your single alBUM!

I'd agree with Todd and Peter (but I have an irrational, visceral dislike of 'Rainy Day Women' (can't explain why, don't know why). I think 'Stuck inside of Mobile' is one of Dylan's greatest songs.

I'd go further though, and say nearly all double ablums can become single albums easily - 'Songs in the Key of Life' is, I'd argue an album and a half too long... /n Offhand, I can't think of any double album I wouldn't cut ... there'd have to be at least a couple...


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Posted by:

Cwipple Cweek

Location: Perth Australia

Subject: Blonde on Blonde

Interesting comments on the Blonde on Blonde CD.As a teen I frequently listened to "Mobile" and quite liked the symbal drumming at the end that coincided with the last 3 cords.I heard this on the Greatest hits vol 2 album but cant for the life of me hear it on the Blonde on Blonde CD.Always wondered where it went.You may have answered for me.Were finally getting some rain in the West.Rainmaker heard the call.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: BoB afterthought

I'd bet that a study of used vinyl copies of BoB would reveal far more wear on the first LP (both sides) than on the second LP (so maybe the single disc thing happened anyway).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Blonde on Blonde (BoB)

Todd’s new track list would be roughly how I’ve often programmed Blonde on Blonde myself. Not quite because I wouldn’t have eliminated Rainy Day Women #12 and 35, and would have eliminated Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands if I was in a car or working. I’d only put on Sad Eyed Lady if I was going to sit and listen to it, so I’d have voted it off first if attempting Todd’s exercise. My single disc would lose Sad Eyed Lady and reinstate (at least) Rainy Day Women and Most Likely You Go Your Way. I agree that Pledging My Time and Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat fit better into a Highway 61 Revisited listening session. Like Todd, that’s also a favourite, so nothing against the songs, but I was taken by Todd’s idea of stylistic unity.

When Blonde on Blonde was first put on CD, it became a single disc, and I believe a few seconds here and there were chopped and fades done to make it just fit. The next CD, the Super Bit Mapped remaster “Collectors Edition” eliminated the clipping of fade outs etc, because CD length had increased slightly from its maximum length of 70 m to a maximum of 74 minutes, and the gold remaster disc runs to 73m 18s. Then the remastered SACD version is back to being a double disc. It may not need to be, but they’ve restored the LP1 / LP2 split

When Blonde on Blonde came out, the fact of it being a DOUBLE album shocked reviewers. The 4th side, Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands, runs to 11m 17 s, which is short for an LP side. It was suggested at the time that simply eliminating Side Four would have let it fit on a single LP, but that wasn’t true because taking off the 11m 17s still left over 30 minutes a side. Though it would have managed a total of 60m with the sort of fades used on the first CD. K-Tel budget TV advertised albums managed to squeeze 30 minutes on a side, but volume was very low and quality appalling. So, eliminating Side 4 wouldn’t have done it. The people discussing it at the time kept mentioning that “most albums had twelve tracks and without Sad Eyed Lady, it was only thirteen”. They didn’t take into account the length of each song!

Some good albums squeezed 24 minutes on. With modern cutting technology, would it be better at that length than it was in 1966? Rainy Day Women and Most Likely You Go Your Way add up to 8m 07 s on the gold remaster, thus coming up 3 m 10 s shorter than Sad Eyed Lady which would have improved sound quality back then (You do all know I’m doing this entirely from memory without resorting to the program facility on my CD player, nor the CD insert, don’t you?)


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Blonde On Blonde as a single LP

Some “Blonde On Blonde” fans may find this as mildly blasphemous, but I’ve always thought that “Blonde On Blonde” would have made a great single album. As the album currently stands, it’s one of my favorites, but sometimes I feel it suffers from a bit of an identity crisis between bluesy rockers like ‘Pledging My Time’ and ‘Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat’ vs. sublime and lush pieces like ‘Visions Of Johanna’ and ‘Sad Eyed Lady of The Lowlands’. The former tracks are full of youthful swagger and insolence, while the latter are more mature, thoughtful and reflective.

No doubt that was intentional on Dylan’s part to set it up as a series of contrasts both sonically and thematically….(maybe he was at that particular crossroads in his own life at that time) but sometimes I find the transitions jarring and wish that it held up as a more unified work. I think that’s one of the charms of an album like “Blood On The Tracks”. It has a strong and unified theme and sound that holds it together. When you listen to any two tracks from “Blood On The Tracks”, it’s pretty clear that they’re from the same album. That’s not always the case with “Blonde On Blonde”.

Don’t get me wrong…I love the bluesy rockers and rougher edged songs, but they almost sound to me like they would have fit in better on “Highway 61 Revisited” which is also one of my favorite Dylan albums.

With all that being said, here is my stab at turning “Blonde On Blonde” into a single LP. I had to juggle the song positioning around a little to keep the playing time of each side down to a reasonable length, as well as making sure that the songs flow well, and that each side has a distinct start and end. I felt that kicking off the album with ‘Stuck Inside….’ was crucial to the mix, as well as ending each side with ‘Johanna’ and ‘Sad Eyed Lady’ respectively. Other songs could possibly be moved around, but I think this works.

Side 1
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again
Just Like A Woman
One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later)
Visions Of Johanna

Side 2
I Want You
4th Time Around
Absolutely Sweet Marie
Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands

In this configuration, each side is approx 24 minutes. I think that 22 minutes per side would have been better for technical reasons, but I think that 24 could be squeezed onto each side….Especially since many of these songs aren’t as heavy on the bass or loudness and wouldn’t require as grooves as wide as some of the songs that I left off. In this day and age with CD’s and iPods, the track length and Side 1 / Side 2 sequencing isn’t as critical, but I wanted to be faithful to the technology of the day.

My apologies in advance if I’ve ruined “Blonde On Blonde” for anyone! I still think it’s great as a double.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Zzzz, I don't know Pete. The more, the merrier.

Tickets are still available, but similar venues have sold out on this tour. I hope the Fitz is packed.


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Jimmy and Jerry, has anybody heard from Pete Rivard?... I'll see if he has a ticket yet too...


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Posted by:

rich

Subject: dylan

thanks pete.good to be back.blonde on blonde has to be in the top 3 of any dylan list,but fair play to kev for putting other contenders into the ring.i love 'slow train' and 'love and theft'.infidels though has to be one of the most annoying dylan albums ever.once again,bob the tinkerer ditched at the last minute several potential classics such as 'foot of pride' and 'lord protect my child'.worst of all was ommission of 'blind willie mctell'unbelievable!!!.instead we had dross like union sundown,and neighbourhood bully.thankfully all the infidels rejects did resurface on later albums,mostly on the first bootleg boxset.jokerman's great ,and there are some other good songs there, but 'infidels' could have been so much better with the castaways left onboard.if your interested,author paul williams in one of his performing artist series of books came up with a 'directors cut' of 'infidels'.well worth checking out.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Once upon a time he dressed so fine...

It was 43 years ago this past Sunday that Dylan & the Hawks played at the Manchester Free Trade Hall. See link above.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Jerry

Thanks, hasta la vista


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Posted by:

Bill M

I do love lots of Dyaln's '60s stuff, but the only album that I've ever had the urge to play repeatedly, and so the only one I've kept, is the "Live at Albert's Hall" boot (aka the live disc from Live '66). Same with the Beatles (none, though I'd pick up "Abbey Road" if cheap) and Stones ("Let it Bleed" and "Rolled Gold").


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Doug Sahm

. . . is mentioned in "The Most Secret Record in Rock History," cited by Ilkka, as well as the article linked by kristie.

"The Road from Turkey Scratch" may have been shelved, but Sir Doug went on to contribute to the "Rick Danko" album.


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Posted by:

cheryl norton

Location: MncNorton66@msn.com
Web: My link

Subject: Leonard Piltier

we need more songs Thank you


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: PSB

I love the guitar on Blonde on Blonde…..but as albums much prefer Infidels, Slow Train Coming and Love and Theft – to name just three since 1978.

Check out Peter Stone Brown’s attachment (a link to his own website) - it includes a very good review of the new Dylan release – written by PSB. His take on the importance of lyrics to this release is at odds with what I had said earlier but it is a very well written and thought out review.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Together Through Life

Oh! Blasphemy! (Life of Brian). Any placing of “Blonde on Blonde” outside the Top 3 Dylan albums is blasphemy. I know Blood on the Tracks has its supporters too. I can live with that. But Blonde on Blonde towers above anything since 1978’s Street Legal. And for any Band fan has the most sublime lead guitar work.

Good to see Rich posting again. I agree that Jolene and I Feel A Change Comin’ On are vintage excellent Dylan, and worth the full price of the album. But “Life Is Hard”? Is it a joke? Is it meant to be music? That is one awful song with one awful performance.


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Posted by:

David P.

Keyboardist Augie Meyers, a key collaborator with Doug Sahm from the Sir Douglas Quintet days forward to the Texas Tornados, also played with Dylan on "Time Out Of Mind" and "Love and Theft".


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Kristie…….I still play Under the Red Sky and happen to much prefer Love & Theft over Blonde on Blonde….in fact, I rate Blonde on Blonde somewhere between 10 and 20 on my list of Dylan’s top 20 albums. That all said, I might really like the new release….just haven’t heard it yet. By the way, glad that you are enjoying The Waterboys………….Mike Scott was namedropped frequently by RR during his reemergence in the late 80’s…on that subject – since many aging rockers have radio shows and real DJ’s no longer roam the planet….a radio show with RR at the helm would be interesting…..


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: You may be right, but I've never taken Ophelia's "second coming" as having much to do with reappearance. In other news, ever get that Franklin comp?


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Blues stay away from me

I really like Dylan and Doug's version of this.


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Posted by:

kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan/Doug Sahm

Count me among the people(if there are any)who like the new Dylan. Of course, I am not one of the Dylan fans who keeps expecting he will make another "Blonde on Blonde," and then is disappointed when he only comes up with a "Modern Times"(which is a great record from the first note). I think people should give him a break. What he is still accomplishing is really quite staggering. Co-writer or not, even the Rolling Stones are not writing the amount Dylan is(and what they have written recently, I am not a fan of). I will follow Dylan wherever he decides to go musically, and I always manage to find a few gems in his new albums.

I included an interesting article about the friendship between Dough Sahm and Dylan. It has GREAT song samples! and is an interesting read. I was also interested to see that Doug Sahm lived on Vancouver Island for awhile, and might have even conceived of The Texas Tornadoes there.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: the best things always reappear

Vancouver's Jim Byrnes covers "Ophelia" on a new disc that reviewer Brad Wheeler likes pretty well.


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Posted by:

rich

Location: wales

Subject: new dylan albun.its rather good.

i've got to say,the dylan album is hugely enjoyable.you can tell the old geezer's had a blast when making it. there are several standout tracks such as 'jolene',and 'i feel a change comin'on,while 'its all good 'is vintage dylan. the musicianship is terrific with david hidalgo's accordian a delight. i agree,the last robert hunter collaboration 'sylvio' was iffy,and most dylan fans would agree that'down in the groove'was a dog of an album,made worse by the last minute ditching of the hiatt cover,'the usual',and 'got love'(who wrote that),in favour of 'death is not the end'(good song,wrong album'),and the awful 'had a dream about you baby'. 'together through life' is no' blood on the tracks',what could be,but its great fun.give it a chance kev,youll be pleasantly suprised.


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Posted by:

kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Thanks Joan

Joan-It seems to be one of those bands that is really popular in it's on country, but not really outside of it. Judging by the link I provided, they are a popular band amongst musicians(Beck, Davide Byrne, Kurt Cobain, etc).


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Posted by:

David P.

That Turkey was not that well-researched, as it was Rick, not Richard, who sang "Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Road to Turkey Scratch

It was a very enjoyable and amusing spoof. Well-researched too. It caused a buzz at the time. It deserves its place in "Literature about The Band" anyway.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Pouring some milk on the new Dylan?

First time in years (probably since the foggy period of late 80’s - - - which was foggy for me as well as Bob) that I have not just rushed out and picked up a new Dylan release. Reason: knowing that the lyrics were largely written by Robert Hunter took a bounce out of my step. Their only other collaboration had been the very very limp “Sylvio” back in the late 80”s. A large part of any Dylan release has always been discovering a certain turn of phrase that sticks with you………..Dylan singing someone else’s words is not exciting for me……

Saw a documentary on the Mama’s and Papa’s last night…..have seen the thing many times as it seems to pop up on tv a few times a year….but I always end up watching the whole thing. Two things always stand out - just how great a song “California Dreamin” is…. and that their career was really only 2 years long!!


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again and again)

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Turkey scratch / Who is this Dener guy anyway???

This Dener guy has commented the article with the words: "A bunch of shit". It says more about Mr. Dener than the late Mr. Persson.


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again)

Location: Nordic Countries
Web: My link

Subject: Yes, the article written by Mr. Persson is still there!!!

Thanks Mr. Hoiberg for keeping this article alive (the link).


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: Lennart Persson is dead

On a serious side...

Mr. Lennart Persson - the respected Swedish music journalist who has written the most memorable Band story EVER is dead at the age of 58. He wrote the story about "Turkey Scratch" LP, which is the rumoured unknown album by the Band after J. Robbie Robertson's sortie. Mr. Hoiberg included this remarkable article in his site when it was published. If it is still there, READ IT!!!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Virgil Caine is the Name Game ...

It occurred to me over the weekend that the aging Virgil Caine did well to choose Robbie Robertson as the writer to craft his legacy. Imagine if he's knocked on the wrong door in the Brill Building and gotten Shirley Ellis: "Virgil virgil mo-mirgil, banana-bana bo birgil, fee-fie-foe-firgil, Virgil".

Joe J / Landmark: Danny Brooks has maybe eight albums out, plus a book. Like so many working musicians these days, his groups come in various sizes, depending on budget - solo, duo with bassist Dennis Pinhorn, four- or five- piece with the Memphis Brothers (himself, Pinhorn, drummer Bucky Berger, guitarist John King and someone on keyboards - Michael Fonfara or Lance Anderson), or, for the really big gigs, the Rockin' Revelators (the Memphis Brothers plus some mixture of a second keyboard, three horns and three background vocalists). Of the albums, only two are all-gospel, though three of the others (including two produced by Richard Bell) have a good number of gospel-flavoured originals. See link above. Hoping to see the Revelators on May 25 - the first time in a long time.

NB will like to know that if he sees a clip of the Rockin' Revelators with one or two women singers, she (or they) are also on the Peter Boyd CD. And some Tom Cochrane. Landmark might care to know that the drummer, Bucky Berger, was on all those Rough Trade records from the "High School Confidential" period. Plus, for a bit of a Hawks link, bassist Pinhorn and saxist Ed Zankowski are also in Robbie Lane and the Disciples these days.

Simon: Thanks for the Hendrix link. Interesting that it didn't seem to repeat (or even explore) the (sometimes spurious, for sure) Vancouver 'sightings' in the early / mid '60s.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Electric Dirt EPK

There’s a 5 ½ minute EPK (Electronic Press Kit) video on Levon’s site for ‘Electric Dirt’. Really cool behind the scenes stuff at the studio showing some of the work on the album and some interview clips with Larry Campbell. Levon’s voice is sounding very strong…there’s a powerful clip of ‘Move Along Train’ as well as some other things. I can’t wait for this new album. It looks like they had a good time working on it.

Who would have thought ten or so years ago, that we would have in 2007/2008 a Grammy winning album from Levon with ‘Dirt Farmer’? Having ‘Electric Dirt’ to look forward to along with some well regarded live shows is icing on the cake. Congratulations to Levon and friends for a job well done and never giving up.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Distant Drums

Roy Orbison first recorded "Distant Drums", written by the late-great Cindy Walker, in 1963. A year earlier Mr. Orbison had a big hit with Ms. Walker's "Dream Baby". Another one of Ms. Walker's countless compositions, "You Don't Know Me" co-written with Eddy Arnold, was often performed by Richard Manuel during the post-Last Waltz era.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Finding a valuable Jim Reeves record for 25p is unlikely, but my profit would be nil, because I've never managed to get round to either selling a record nor disposing of an unwanted one. However, I would grab a valuable one even if it was a couple of pounds, play it once, grimace, but open a bottle of wine to celebrate my theoretical but never-to-be-realised profit of £198.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: singing/whistling parents

Thank God my dad never sang. However, he was an expert whistler - whistled like a lark, you might say. Or not. My son, who never met him, is also a pathological whistler. Must be in the genes.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Re: Jim Reeves Fans

Peter, if by some chance you're lucky enough to find a valuable Reeves record, be sure to make it clear to the store clerk that you're NOT a fan, though the chances of being fingered as " one of that crowd" by a 20 something HMV clerk is probably pretty low.

Abby, though we didn't have any Reeves records my mother somehow knew the words to a couple of his songs and would sing them from time to time. Unfortunately one of those times was on the 12 hour car trip back to her home town in the 60's. Fortunately she knew 10 Hank Williams and Johnny Cash songs for every Reeves tune.


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Posted by:

Phil

Location: Oklahoma
Web: My link

Subject: Ghost Dance lyrics

Robbie Robertson and group have many beautiful songs. I hope to contact him and the group about the lyrics to the Ghost Dance song. We Caddo Indians were heavily into the Ghost Dance up through the 1930's.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: You can tell your friend there with you, he'll have to go...

Ry Cooder did a terrific Tex-Mex version of 'He'll have to go' on that Tex Mex album he did. A little trick I learned was to push the balance all the way to the right, where you cut out the accordions, to have this lovely duet with a lightly strummed acoustic guitar. Of course, the accordion was brilliant anyway.

Bands whose fans let them down - The Smiths (though not always); AC/DC; Guns and Roses; The Grateful Dead; Pink Floyd; I'd even put Dylan in tht list, though this is a small minority of Dylan fans - most are wonderful people! (I'd also place Dylan along with the brilliant performer who was ripped off by lesser performers - that list includes Hendrix, Joni Mitchell, The Stones, the Beatles, Ani DiFranco, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters - note, these are all brilliant acts, who are much better than the vast majority of people who copied them...)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jim Reeves

The word “maudlin” was invented to define Jim Reeves, or maybe it was vice versa. Reeves’ 60s singles appear in charity shop 25p boxes in large quantities. The ascent of the charts is an indicator of the slowing of CD sales. The fact that (e.g.) Dylan does better nowadays in the charts shows that the age profile of CD buyers is getting higher. A shift to Jim Reeves means either the Dylan fans have learned to download shifting the average age of CD buyers on ten to twenty years, or that supermarket charts are being used. Jim Reeves wasn’t apparent in the main display of CD releases in HMV yesterday, but was present in quantity in the supermarket this morning.

Collectability with artists like Jim Reeves follows a familiar pattern. Essentially, anything Reeves recorded at his peak in the sixties is worthless and available in any bargain secondhand box. But stuff from 1954 to 1960 (including Four Walls) is quite valuable. Jim Reeves 45s from 1954 to 1956 are valued in the hundreds in mint condition. Then the singles between 1967 to 69 creep into the Record Collector Guide too. These were the ones when his popularity had waned dramatically so are rarer. Being aware of these values, I always check stuff with his name on in the charity shop boxes of 45s.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: Jim Reeves

My dad had an LP that he got free at some gas station (they did that kind of stuff back in the 60's -- remember the drinking glasses in your laundry detergent? Now that makes sense) and he played it all the time -- it was the only lp he had -- and the one song I can remember is Jim Reeves singing "Four Walls to Hear Me". Over and over on that high quality record player. Talk about maudlin. Somebody needed to tell him to turn that music down.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Cool old Larry Campbell Woodstock pic from Happy Traum's "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Good Pete Seeger "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: correction

That wrong side of the catskills shoulda been the west side west. East side is the best part.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: correction

That wrong side of the catskills shoulda been the west side west. East side is the best part.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: Jimmy

The more the merrier Jimmy. When we get a little closer we can figure out what we want to do. I work just across the river from St. Paul and I will drive through and check the locations of some local establishments near the Fitz.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: On the cover of the Rolling Stone

Ilkka- Are you aware your dog has a hit record on his ...paws? See if he can come up with a third verse. Maybe throw in some tragedy, like the leg fell off my duck, something to tug at the heart strings. I'm on my way up to Sredni's and we're gonna compose a bridge for that baby. "Someone Throw Me A Bone."


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Levon in St. Paul

Hiya, Jerry! Hiya, Zzzz! Thanks for the heads up, Jerry! Reserved my ticket yesterday. It would be great fun to meet you guys.

Saw LH and the Barnburners at the Cabooze in . . . '02 was it? Much classier venue this time.



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Posted by:

Steve

PSB


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jim Reeves

Jim Reeves was HUGE in the UK in the mid-60s, but bigger still in Ireland. In fact, among the long haired community, if you walked into any 1960s pub and heard Jim Reeves on the jukebox, you walked straight out again. It meant it was an "Irish pub". Nowadays, Irish pubs abound all over the UK and are popular and pleasant watering holes. But in 1966 or 1967, it meant building workers and definitely "No fecking hippies in here."

Jim Reeves was indeed the sound of "Distant Drums", and for the long-haired male the first thought on hearing him … ever … was "I'll Have To Go." As a result, I loathe Jim Reeves records and Englebert Humperdink ones. But I was never chased out of a pub by Englebert fans, so I loathe Jim Reeves records more. If I was stuck in a room with Pete Seeger records, The Moon Struck One and The Best of The Doors, all would be preferable to Jim Reeves. (Well, not "The End" by The Doors actually. I'd rather be knocked about in a Kilburn pub than listen to The End).

None of this is Jim Reeves' fault and I'm sure he was a personable fellow who could carry a tune well, certainly better than Messrs Seeger or Morrison (J). It's like a lot of music. The music itself isn't bad, but the fans it attracts are loathsome.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: The Very Best of Jim Reeves

The above recording is about to pass Dylan's latest on the UK charts. This is, I assume, the late Jim Reeves of 'Bimbo' and 'Billy Bayou' fame? Is this a Brit thing or am I missing something? How about Dylan duetting with Reeves on 'He'll Have To Go'? No?

Landmark, I actually found the very same performance by Danny Brooks on Youtube. I listened to several others as well including a couple featuring Richard Bell. I'm sure Bill M. can elaborate on each and every member of The Revelators.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Wilco Loft Photo

Wilco has a gigapan photo on their website showing a view of the inside of their “loft” which is their studio/office/clubhouse/practice/and sometimes recording space in Chicago. Gigapan is a technology that stitches together many still photos to create a very high-resolution photo that can be zoomed into to see details of a scene. For example, you can zoom in and read titles of books on a bookshelf or the name of a guitar on a headstock.

For any Wilco fans, or just studio/musical instrument gear heads, it’s an interesting view of a place where a band does its work. Can you imagine if we had this technology back in the MFBP days?

There are many interesting things to look at…. especially if you enjoy minutia, but Band fans will appreciate the photo of GARTH HUDSON playing an accordion. The photo is perched on top of the typewriter that’s in the bookshelf just to the right of the window in the center of the photograph.

At any rate, it’s an interesting look into Wilco’s loft in Chicago. I wonder if Pat B has ever been there. He must know some people in common from the studio world with the guys in Wilco.

Click on the link above, and then click to launch the gigapan viewer. Sometimes you have to give it a couple of seconds to load in order to get the full resolution.


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Posted by:

David P.

Charlie McCoy also played on the Nashvillie sessions that Ronnie Hawkins recorded for Fred Foster's Monument label in the early '70s. I believe he was also among the musicians that backed Joan Baez on her version of TNTDODD.


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Posted by:

carmen

Web: My link

News article that mentions RR and the Band. See Link


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Real McCoy

Thanks PSB for adding the additional info on the great Charlie McCoy! As Al Kooper pointed out in his book "Backstage Passes...", Mr. McCoy also amazed Dylan & everyone present during the Blonde On Blonde sessions by playing two instruments simultaneously (trumpet with his left hand & bass with his right) on "You Go Your Way and I'll Go Mine". And it was Mr. McCoy's brilliant acoustic lead (a la Grady Martin on Marty Robbins' "El Paso") that was used on "Desoation Row", rather than the alternate version featuring Al Kooper on electric guitar.


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Posted by:

Jack

Subject: Danny Brooks joe j

Lots of secular music joe. He is the real southern R&B/Blues/Gospel man.........from Toronto no less.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

"The Band" live early '74 @ Fort Worth, Tx's "Tarrant Convention Ctr" from "The Crackers Myspace" site.


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Posted by:

bob w.

PSB, always good to see those letters appear on the screen. We're back on the "right" coast now. Any gigs coming up?


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Posted by:

PSB

Location: Philly
Web: My link

Subject: re: Charlie McCoy

David, amazing they took this long to induct Charlie McCoy. There was a time when he was the TOP Nashville session guy period. He also played (as I'm sure you know) on Nashville Skyline and Self Portrait, as well as Columbia's "revenge" album of outtakes from sessions for the latter two albums, Dylan. In fact, the only person who's played on more Dylan albums is Al Kooper, followed by Dylan's current bass player, Tony Garnier, who will have been with Dylan an astounding 20 years, in just about a month from now.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Charlie McCoy

Charlie McCoy was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame last night, along with Roy Clark and Barbara Mandrell. Mr. McCoy, a multi-intrumentalist best known for his harmonica work, was one of the key Nashville players on Dylan's "Blonde On Blonde". He also played bass on the "John Wesley Harding" album and lead acoustic guitar on "Desolation Row" from "Highway 61 Revisited". In addition to his extensive session work, he was also a member of the great Area Code 615 all-star group, as well as band leader on the long-running Hee Haw tv show which also featured Mr. Clark.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Joe, it would be best to ask Bill tomorrow as he is up on all things Danny Brooks. I don't know if he scans back over weekend posts but I know he's mentioned Danny Brroks on several occasions here.


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Posted by:

Ilkka's Dog

Subject: Band Blues

(C)Every conceivable consequence under the sun,

(F)And it's all the promotor's responsibility.

Parking, permits, lighting, sound, mixer's area, risers for the musicians

(C) A well lit area for unloading and loading equipment.

(G7)Oh Lord, will I ever gonna lose (C) the Band Blues

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

(C)I've also seen a 1996 Reformed Band ("This Band") contract

(F) It mentions everything from batteries to cigarettes (three different brands)to every kind of food you can think of,

(C)And a SHARP KNIFE for the fruit. And napkins, you're going to need lots of napkins.

(G7)Oh Lord, will I ever gonna lose

(C)This Band Blues

- - - - - - - - - - -

Footnote: Unshamesly stolen from lyrics by (c) Mr. Lars Pedersen


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Posted by:

joe J

Subject: Rockin Revelators

I was channel surfing this morning trying to pick up on the weekend scores when a snatch of sound caught my attention and I surfed backwards (it's not as dangerous as it sounds),tuned into '100 Huntley Street' and caught a rousing gospel number from Danny Brooks & Co.

It makes me want to check out some of his recorded work. Does anyone know if it's 100% gospel or does he do some secular music as well? I know that it shouldn't make a difference but ...



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Posted by:

Ilkka Jauramo

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: The Band related artists performing in Sweden

1.) NEIL YOUNG (from The Last Waltz) will be performing at Stockholm Jazz And Blues Festival in June. 2.) ELDKVARN will be performing at The 350'th Anniversary Celebration of the (old British style) steel industrial town nearby. Thanks Mr. Hoiberg for including Eldkvarn in your 'Related' again. I recommend their Swedish website instead of the US site, though.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Greezy Wheels.

The band that co-opened w/ "The Boxmasters" for Levon's late Aug. '08 "Ramble," "Greezy Wheels," has revamped its "Myspace" site. The Austin, TX band, headed up predominantly by Cleve, is a lot of fun & should be returning to open for Levon in the near future. On its site are a couple of pics from that late Aug. "Ramble."


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Big Joe Turner.

Big Joe Turner, a blues singer from Kansas City would have turned 98 today. He passed away in '85. Big Joe influenced many great musicians, including Taj Mahal who recorded Big Joe's hit "Corrine, Corrina," also more recently performed live by the very talented band "Ollabelle" w/ drummer / vocalist Tony Leone (& Levon's drumming cohort @ the Rambles) on lead. Big Joe was elected to the "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" in '87.

"Roll 'em boy,

Gonna jump for joy,

Yeah man,

happy as a baby boy,

My baby just brought me a brand new choo-choo toy."


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Kim & I just ordered Levon's "Electric Dirt" & are psyched for its release.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: ghost riders in the sky

adam - a browse through the 'rider' section at the above link just might bear fruit. it's got every thing from the infamous van haven 'no brown m and m' to b b king's 'nothing'. I haven't checked recently to see if the band is on there, but you never know. I agree though, tech riders can be dull, and rarely enlightening


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: John Hartford

Hey Friend0. There's some good stuff by the Hartford's on YouTube. There's one of Jamie doing Let Him Go On Momma and also one of John doing it from around the time Mark Twang came out. Well worth a look.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Headed up to the (wrong) east side of the Catskills today. Prior to take off I emptied out the compartment under the front passenger seat so I could get to my tire pressure gauge. Came across the 2004 Jamie Hartford Band cd Stuff That Works. Hadn't listened to this in a year or more,and believe me, I wore this one out in 04 and 5. If I am not mistaken, i reviewed the cd track by track here sometime that year. For thoise of you who werenlt here back then, i'll repeat myself to a degree, cause you may want to check this one out.

Anyway, they we e on hot band. I saw them in Nashville, and they smoked. Jamie of course is John Hartford's son. His dad's I'm Still Here is on the record, and the title track is Guy Clark's. Guy speaks one verse durng the song, and I could hear Richard doing that verse too. Not a weak song or performance on the record. Aside from the two covers i mentioned, the rest are orginals by Hartford, or Hartford and a cowriter. The band is amazing, Rick Lonow on drums, Dave Pomeroy bass, Paco SHipp on harp that he had soudning like organs and other things.

Hartford is a excellent songwriter who writes in various veins. "Hoping" has a chorus and bridge built on the Gimme Shelter riff, and aside from Hartford's heavily Tennesee sainging accent, "Pain" could easily be mistaken for Mountain. Hartford's guitars sound like Leslie west and then some, Lonow's drums just like Corky Laing. "whole World" is a killer ballad that Hartford wrote with Pat McClaughlin, who guest on it.

I would imagine the cd is still available. dave Pomeroy used to sell it from his Earwave records, but I imagine it could be on Amazon and other sites as well.



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Posted by:

Friend0

Tell me Daena
Why you been gone so long?
You been gone so long.

well, I missed the action and I don't have any nasty emails. Nice to know none of the nonsense involved or was directed at me.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: Riders

ADAM- I don't want to disappoint you, but I can't help you. Perhaps you can find an answer in the internet.

I hope you understand and don't take this as mean spirited.


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Posted by:

Adam

Lars - Though you said its mostly a boring read for most people, I would still like to read it if possible. Is it online anywhere? I'd be interested in it, particularly the stuff like what you said about Richard's line view of Levon.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: The Band's tech rider

Someone asked about tech riders for The Band in the 70s. That was me who brought that up. Reading a tech rider is about as exciting as reading a phone book, unless you understand all of that audio/ input stuff. What struck me was how thorough the guy was who wrote it up. He managed to cover every conceivable consequence under the sun, and it's all the promotor's responsibility. Parking, permits, lighting, sound, mixer's area, risers for the musicians, and a well lit area for unloading and loading equipment.

I've also seen a 1996 Reformed Band ("This Band")contract and the only thing I found really fascinating was the catering rider. It mentions everything from batteries to cigarettes (three different brands)to every kind of food you can think of. And a SHARP KNIFE for the fruit. And napkins, you're going to need lots of napkins.


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Posted by:

daena (said dana) gallant

Location: florida

Subject: responce to freindo's post about peter...

well freindo the refomed version of the band disproves or should have disproved peter's theory about robbie not having needed the other members of the band to made it in music ...don't get me wrong anyone , because i think all the original and other members of the reformed band are , and were very talented people , and i think that everyone here should try to remember that as well as other things when writing stuff here about the band , and as forest gump says , and that's all i gotta say about that..


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Just saw the new Star Trek movie. A superb, first rate action film. I'm a mild Star Trek fan, my knowledge of the subtle and the suppossed history of it all is minimum, so I don't get boned up about what conflicts and doesn't, so that didn't taint my view of it as a stand alone film. A lot of fun - non stop, witty, great to see how all the characters came about (or suppose to according to this film). Just a real fun movie to enjoy.


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Technical Rider for the Band

Someone mentioned they saw an old tech rider contract from the 70s. Is this available online anywhere to read?


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Posted by:

king harvest

locate your bifocals your royal hiney. the webmaster deleted his nasty post and asked him to move it to email.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Who by? An anonymous poster who just chooses different song names?


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Posted by:

the unfaithful servant

westcoaster, can't you read? you were asked to take your negativity somewhere else.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: THE BAND

Gawd Damn it Lars! You're talkin' about the BAND! I was out starting on getting my wood pile for the fall, while my tug dries off in the sun (finally). I got it all washed down first thing this morning to hopefully paint it this afternoon.

It just came to me.....Steve is a closet Robbie Robertson fan.....very smitten with him, maybe even a little limp wristed. He says, "I'd say the same thing about Levon". Well in all these years, how come only Robbie then? Never Levon or Garth, or anyone else, only Robbie. See! He's a closet Robbie fan and he's been tryin' to throw us off the scent.

Now this Northern kid,....all he is, ...is a art teacher. He sits around drawing pictures of the Band, and characatures of people in the Guest book. He's got Steve lookin' a little like Porky Pig on skis with a beautiful Pink flowing scarf. Now THAT'S why I know Steve is a closet fan.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Lars

Thank you for that great description. Also thank you for changing the subject. Now if we had a cattle prod, perhaps we could get everyone going in a new less confronting (is that a word?) manner.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: The Band

Just like an image of a lover from long ago, sometimes I think of The Band and I have to remind myself of what they looked like. I started going to their concerts back in the early 1990s.

There was always an opening act, the way I remember it. Once everybody got in place and checked their mics Rick would always greet the audience with something like, "Hey, how's everybody doing tonight." From the look on his face, I don't think he ever heard the audience response. Levon might say, "Oneoneoneoneone." I never heard any "Check, one, two" from anybody.

Richard Bell would be on the extreme left with his piano set up so you could see the right side of it; the same position Richard Manuel took in TLW. From left to right, Jim Weider would be next and his mic was set backup a bit, as if to emphasize that he was not a "front singer." Garth would usually be behind Weider, although at Carnegie Hall he was set up all the way over on the right and as far back as he could get. Rick came next and he was the focal point for me. The Band, as I remember it, didn't have a lot of banter between songs, but if somebody had to say something it was usually Rick. He once said that the stage was a good place for him to be. If it was a hot evening Rick would have a little fan set up to blow on his face, although it wasn't visible.

Randy would be between Rick and Levon, often on a riser. He and Levon, who was on the extreme right, often smiled at each other. Levon was on the right and sometimes he would look back in the wings (stage left) and give a scorching glare at somebody. I assumed it was the sound man. Butch was hidden somewhere over there, maybe he was looking at him (just kidding, Butcher).

Richard Bell, like Garth and Jimmy, was not one of the vocalists. Sometimes during a piano solo he'd raise a knee up as he played, but for the most part he was a piano player showing the audience his right profile. Weider was the lead guitarist and sometimes it looked like he was wrestling the music out as he bent over and played his intricate sounds. Garth, for the most part, was barely visible. Sometimes his head would be slumped down and all I could see was a hand playing along. Rick would play bass (later on he sometimes played guitar while either Randy or Levon would take the bass for one song) and he'd shift his weight from one foot to the other (the Danko shuffle). Levon and Randy were usually busy singing, but sometimes during a bridge I'd see Randy laughing and I wondered what Levon had done to bring that on. Levon would have the mischievous smile. Other times his eyes would be closed and he was in another world. On the whole, I would look at Levon and his body language seemed to say, "Bring it on."

I've seen an old technical rider fot The OQ and it states "Richard must have a line of view with Levon." I don't think The Band in the 1990's needed lines of view (although I could be wrong) because Rick could always see Levon and vice versa. By that time they had reached a point where they knew the music so well that they seldom rehearsed. I think I've mentioned that Randy once told me that the first time he sang with The Band it was his first show with them. If some of the younger Band members were playing in Levon's studio they would see Levon pass by and call to him to join in. Levon never even turned around, he just kept walking as if he hadn't heard them. I guess playing the same songs all of the time was hard for him.


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Posted by:

Friendo

Subject: Rod/Peter/and of course The Royal Family

Rod, Building on one thing you wrote: The Band was making records to please themeselves. They were creating music: beauty and art.

The point you discuss with Peter, well you are welcome to discuss anything you want. But be aware that what Peter typed and you annswered was his attempt to alter my point about a discussion he began years ago was. The point I raised was that many times over many years Peter has insisted that the Band songs that Robbie has claimed full writing credit for would have been as successful had Robbie never met the other 4 guys, worked without the other 4 guys in The Band. He has also argued that Robbie would have been as successful a songwriter had Robbie never net the other 4 guys.Peter has argued that the other 4 members could have been replaced . That the only member of The Band who was irreplaceable was Robbie. The issue that Peter raised and discussed in our various GBs never was whether Robbie would have been successful. He just tried to flick it that way the other day.

Sorry i can't stick around but am heading out momentarily. Have fun Pete. DOn't wear out the spinning digits. Rememebr to stretch and rest them adequately.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Carol Caffin's new interesting read on her Rick Danko "Sip the Wine" blog.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Last night's "Midnight Ramble."

Butch mentioned John Prine played @ last night's Ramble. Very cool.

One of Levon's sax players, Erik Lawrence, joined his band "Hipmotism" as the Ramble's opening act. We met Erik after the last Ramble we attended last yr & he's a great guy & a musical talent.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Rockin Down Memory Lane

Mike Reno, front-man for 80's Canadian Rockers Loverboy , says that people who graduated from high school in the 80's keep coming up to him at concerts telling him they remember Loverboy playing at their school's graduation. He says that in spite of the fact in the 80's they played stadiums and never played any high school graduations, at anytime, this has happened more than three dozen times since he started keeping track.

J2RS, if you're going to write a memoir please refrain from thinking about your time with The Boys as we now know that every time we retrieve a memory from the vault it is returned in a slightly altered form.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Electric Dylan

I know what you mean about the electric stuff on Bringing It All Back Home and Highway 61 Revisited, but apart from Al Kooper, Blonde on Blonde is a different band, and I reckon those session guys rock effortlessly.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Techy stuff mainly for hi-fi buffs

Starbucks and its ilk have had such an influence. I offered a visitor a coffee on Friday, and was standing by my espresso machine. He asked for a decaf cappucinno with skimmed milk. I keep neither skimmed milk nor decaf coffee. What’s the answer? This isn’t f*cking Starf*cks came to mind. But would that be a tad rude?

Because we’re in the midst of building work, I’ve been using my “old best hi-fi system” for a couple of weeks. I normally switch between Myrad (main hi-fi), Technics / Sony (office), Apple computer speakers (if I’m feeling too lazy to walk across to the Sony), iPod through Bose (kitchen), Bose Wave (bedroom) and car. That gives a wide range, and stuff really does sound different … way more different than (say) a CD and a remastered CD on one system. That’s obvious. But I’ve been surprised how different my “old best hi-fi” system sounds. It’s mid-80s QUAD through Boston Acoustics speakers, which is a bass speaker with satellite speakers system from the mid-90s. I don’t know if it’s the bass / satellites or the QUAD, but I listened through “Tapestry” this morning (original CD issue, not this year’s remaster) and it sounded stunningly better than last week, when I played it to decide whether to shell out for the remaster or not. I decided it was fine as it was. But that QUAD CD player will be over twenty years old. Maybe my ears were cleaner and clearer because it was morning.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: going back a few days ...

I don't think Dylan's early electric recordings were any where near as powerful as what he achieved with the Hawks on the 66 tour. Rolling Stone is a prime example - even Al Kooper admits that he was unsure of the song which is why he changes chords half a beat behind the rest of the band. Would Robbie have achieved much without the other four? It's hard to say. He probably had the drive and he was a good song writer and guitar player at the time. The Band's biggest problems were members' substance abuse and that they didn't really have a radio friendly sound. From what I understand Robbie did have a big say in the way the records sounded.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: "FE DA"

Cleaning my boots off...


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Posted by:

Cynthia

Location: Utah

Subject: The website

I just want to thank you for maintaining this wonderful site. As a huge fan of the Band, I use it regularly for lyrics and info. The Band is no longer, but as a fan, they will live forever in my heart and head as my favorite band.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Shangri-La (Malibu) "facebook" pg.


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Posted by:

NB

Steve: Thanks.

Joan: I'm glad. It was dear, wasn't it ? No moose or squirrel in it though.


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again and again)

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Woodstock revisited ???

Levon Helm without The Band. Robbie Robertson solo. It is like pancakes without syrup.


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Posted by:

abby

Location: KY

Subject: that frost bite falls picture

My gosh - that looks like my long lost Uncle Wilbert and cousin Dewey Chisem.... They don't know nothin' 'bout no icebergs!


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again)

Location: Nordic Countries
Web: My link

Subject: Internet criminality / Spamhuntress

I warmly recommend this Norwegian site to everyone who are concerned about internet security. SPAMHUNTRESS is a brave female Christian theologian. - BTW Have a very good SYTTENDE MAJ tomorrow, Mr. Hoiberg!!!


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: NB/ Frostbite Falls

Loved the video.


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Posted by:

Ilkka Jauramo

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: This GB

1.) Having an open internet forum means that you CAN'T leave it for a second. 2.) Internet criminals are monitoring this gb and using the information to misguide people who use Google and Yahoo. 3.) Internet criminals are blackmailing gb regulars by registering internet domains which are pointing to "questionable" sites (pornography, Russian prostitution) in their name. (DON'T PAY, I DON'T DO IT!)


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bwian

Let Wodwick go.....Centurion, do we have a Wodwick? CENTURION! Thwo him to the gwound, yes vewy woufwy please!


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Don't get me started....

'I'm a kike, a heebee, a hook-nose. I'm a Red Sea Pedestrian'

'I have a vewwy gweat fwiend in Wome called Biggus ... Dickus ... Do you find it wisible when I say my fweinds name? '

'Brothers, we must unite against the common enemy!' 'The Judean People's Front' 'No! The Romans"


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: smokin' guns

Abby; You're forgiven, and thanks for the hug and kiss, it was great, (as usual).

Lars; One of the best parts of the Life of Brian, was when he was writing on the walls at night, about the Roman's and the Roman guard came and gave him shit about his spelling and showed him how to do it right. I think he made him write it out a 1000 times.

"I'm Brian and so's my wife!"


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Posted by:

Steve

For some reason I always feel like I'm listening to Richard drum when I hear Dirt Farmer.


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Posted by:

PSB

Location: Philly
Web: My link

Subject: Another perspective

Tonight I saw the great old time music revival band, The New Lost City Ramblers at what may have been their final concert. Each member took a few solo turns. Tracy Schwarz, who plays fiddle, mandolin, guitar, banjo and accordion stepped up the mic, alone with just his fiddle. He said, "I wrote this song a while back. Some drummer took it. But in a way it was the greatest compliment because he thought the song was traditional." He then proceeded to play one hell of a version of his song, "Dirt Farmer."


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Web: My link

Subject: Frost Bite Falls: A Damn Impossible Way of Life ?

Ho Contraire Jer ! I'm pretty sure that Robbie, being from the Great White North, would instead find it almost damn impossible to leave Frost Bite Falls ! Check out the "Springtime in Minnesota" photo in my link. For a Canuck, what's not to love ? NB


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Posted by:

Serenity

Hi guys. Just checking in to see if everything is going well.

I tried earlier to post a link, but it didn't go through. Anyone interested in John Lennon go to rollingstone.com and check on the daily's.

I've been on facebook for more than a year. Have a lot of relations and friends there.Found out more about them through facebook than I would over a phone. Lots of pics.

I posted on Robbie's page, but haven't been there for awhile since. Must get back there soon.

Since my computers been down for 2 weeks, and I'm loaded with e-mails. Still not caught up.

Congrats to Randy Bachman on receiving the Order Of Canada. A well-deserved honor.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Jerry

NB, Do ya think when Robbie said "The road is a goddamm impossible way life" he was talking about places like Frostbite Falls?

Zzz, you got it


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Posted by:

Friend0

Reading Wetso's post, about the impossible way of life, and it's hazards, well, sure. Many musicians have or have had drug problems. So have sanitation workers, drs, dentists, fence salesmen, isnurance salesmen, cameramen, film directors, shoe salespeople, lawyers, on and on. Drugs are an impossible way of life. And taking drugs does effect personal behavior, job performance, and perception.

Most of this section of Westie''s post is very commonplace. "In my experiences with some of my musicians, watching a guy, who is a smoking guitar player, ripped right out of his head on coke, totally fuck up, (and he thought he was great). I just wanted to kill him." The killing part is not all that universal an emotion. But we all know the rest of it happens, and we all know it happens in other walks of life besides music too.

In a following post Westo does extend this to other areas of life, and discusses the emotions of wanting to get away from drug abusers, or people's, possibly even drug abusers, need to change their lives. "There are many reasons why people want out of that way of life, (all personal) and no ones business but their own is the point. "

But Westo does bring to mind that we all are very familiar with the effect of drugs on film editing as well. Another impossible way of life. I mean we all saw The Last Waltz. And Robbie has spoken freely and publicly, in interviews, about after quitting the road and the impossible way of life, he and Marty locking themsleves in a house for a year or so, drawing all the curtains and blacking out the windows, and editing The Last Waltz. We all know how that turned out. And I imagine everyone remembers those interviews RR gave. The Rolling Stone interview possibly being the most circulated.

So ya see, it really is almost impossible, quitting this impossible way of life. I have friends in their 50s, still trying,and a very few who did eventually manage to quit the shit. Kudos to anyone who has been able to do it finally. No matter how long, how may attempts it took. And our love and prayers to those who never made it out. . ...............


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Beware of Moose and FLYING Squirrel

Thank you Bob for expanding upon your earlier public safety announcement, admonishing us to "beware of moose and squirrel". Rest assured we'll all take your words to heart and now pay extra heed to the FLYING squirrel as well, as you've suggested. Actually, I couldn't agree with you more re: Flying Squirrels. One only has to recall those "Toonses The Driving Cat" episodes on "Saturday Night Live" to be reminded of the dangers of letting animals operate large vehicles such as aircraft and automobiles. NB


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: Response

I apologize Bob, I forgot all about it and I was watching the Yankee game.

Only if dog barks at moon.

BTW, Good luck to Chris & his bride, and all of the Wigo family at the wedding this weekend.


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Jer, do I have to share it with her... ;) Yes, thanks, I accept!... Always like to drink beer with Band fans!... Let's talk again when we get closer to show time... I get to buy you one too...


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Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Heads Up

Beware of moose and FLYING squirrel.


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Posted by:

Steve

NB, took the Way back Machine way back to the stone age where I've been gathering specimens for the last three days. Bending down and touching the ground every 5 seconds or so for 8 or 10 hours a day sure gets you in touch with the earth. If stretching your hamstrings makes you taller I've grown 2 to 3 inches. A few more days and I may have to contact the folks at Guinness to see if they have BUMBLES' world record stats.

While I'm at it I'd like to congratulate you on being one of the few people here who approaches each post with an open mind( not a sans cerveau comment)and actually reads them to understand what is being said. Bravo! Back to my rock collection, there's still an hour of daylight.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Beware of Moose and Squirrel (?)

While those are certainly words I and many fellow northerners live by, Bob, and are no doubt meant as well-intentioned advice on your part, well, to be honest, I don't see how they have any connection to the musical discussion at hand.

No less perplexified than previously. NB


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Still Keeping It Real (and On A Musical Note)

Sorry Jerry, I forgot to ask if you're as astounded as I am by just how few people OUTSIDE of Minnesota know that Frostbite Falls is "THE OFFICIAL HOME OF R & B" ?

NB.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Beware of moose and squirrel.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Keeping It Real and Band-Related

Jerry: I wonder if Hibbing, Minnesota's "mister big" (aka God Dylan), ever found himself up in Frost Bite Falls, and maybe even crossed paths with that town's "Mr. Big", or possibly even "its two most famous citizens", whom you just alluded to ? Curiously, it doesn't even appear to be something that anyone's bothered to research. I suppose musical scholarship isn't what it used to be.

Perplexified, as per always. NB.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Zzz, Glad to hear you folks are making the Road Ramble. A buddy of mine got the tickets and I think we're in the first balcony.

Northern Boy, Big happening up here in fly over land. The Fitz aint the Barn but I'm taking it, at least for now. I'll look for those two famous residents from Frostbite Falls.

P.S. Zzz, If you'd like to meet up I'll buy you and the better half a beer.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Todd: Road Ramble

You mentioned the Road Ramble getting to Minnesota and I certainly hope all the great folks I grew up with in Frostbite Falls can get into St. Paul for that one ! I'm assuming you know that Levon & Crew are coming to Bridgeport, CT in July. Might be of interest to Friend0 and others to know that Vivino and Band join Levon on July the 4th (odds are Friendo knows already, but just in case).NB

(PS. Frostbite Falls is an intriguing place, and well worth a Google if you've never heard of it-Steve won't have to. Coincidentally, I was watching a wonderful programme just the other night that happened to be set in Frostbite Falls).


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The big pine in the back corner

Subject: I must digress

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I've just been reading back and this whole scene is like a brawl, with the exception of a short post by David Powell. Maybe there were others who meant well, I didn't take notes. I'm not putting you down, I've been guilty of doing it, too. But we all agree that we love The Band, but first we have to put someone in their place. Remember that scene in "Life of Brian" when Brian is selling weird food and he comes across a group of people, led by John Cleese?

BRIAN: Are you the Judean People's Front?

REG: Fuck off!

BRIAN: What?

REG: Judean People's Front....We're the PEOPLE'S FRONT OF JUDEA!!!....Judean People's Front.

FRANCIS: Wankers.

REG: Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front.

JUDITH: Splitters.

BRIAN: Can I ...join your group?

REG: No. Piss off.



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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Kristie Rita Lee The Mutantes

A solo number by Rita Lee, formerly of the Mutantes.


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Posted by:

abby

You're right, WC - I didn't read your post closely - I was jumpting to conclusions based on much, much earlier posts... or who knows what. We're all testy right now. But, like I said - 40 minutes to go and you'll have a clean slate. (s m a c k!! -- that was a kiss, not a hit)


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Posted by:

Abby

Subject: be nice!

Yes, WC - I would have you in the bad boy timeout corner right now. A big, burly guy like you talking like that just automatically sounds like bashing. Okay, once your 62 minutes are up, you may leave the corner and join the good girls and boys. And we'll give you a big hug when it's over and all will be forgiven.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Robbie bashing website

I came across this accidentally . I was embarrassed and repulsed. I hit the home key as quickly as I could. In my opinion, it is a type of "Porno". No, BFB is not the site Simon was referring to. I saw the one he refers to. It was ugly. NO ONE deserves that.

My philosophy on the internet was summed up by my 2 year old niece Be nice! We CAN discuss various Band members music without resorting to character assassination. That's all from me for now.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Include serious abuse of alcohol in that, Norm. But yesterday I spoke to a guy who worked backstage when Sly Stone played here two years ago. He said Sly was crawling around backstage trying to do crack for two hours. For an hour when he was supposed to be on stage, he was rigid on hands and knees, not moving, just drooling. He didn't know who, where or what he was. That very talented guy had become a lump of mindless protoplasm driven around and shoved onstage by his "family and friends" as a meal ticket.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Drugs????????

Read what I said again Abigail. I never said anyone was a bad person. My point was the fact it is so hard to deal with. Many people just want to get away from it. How many times have you stood on a stage with some one you know is great, and really care about, and watched them destroy a show and embarrass you because of drugs. Standing beside some one like that, you just want to distance yourself from them some times.

Now don't go and twist what I said, into a reference to the Band. I have no knowledge of what went on in that outfit. My references were to personal experience.

There are many reasons why people want out of that way of life, (all personal) and no ones business but their own is the point. You're a school teacher aren't you? but not a good listener, I never said any one was (bad).


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie

This is the reply from my sister-in-law Maria. I will fill in when I see her.

"This band used to be the BEST Brazilian group. They are called the Mutantes. Now they have another formation. Rita Lee, the fabulous singer and musician is not with them any more. She now lives in Miami. I will tell you more about them when we meet tomorrow"


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Posted by:

abby

Location: ky - home of meth

Enough bashing already. The drug addict is not a BAD PERSON. (just as not ALL tugboat drivers are bad people) - Drugs are dangerous and can be very harmful. People who do drugs....they're often screwed - but not bad people who are just going out of their way to irritate you.


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Posted by:

abby

Web: My link

Subject: here's some positive talk

Woooo Hoooo! John Hiat AND Steve Earle - trapped with you on a boat....just imagine (I'm sincerely hoping the warmth of the Carribean will entice Steve Earle to shave that ungodly beard of his.. just as you men might hope the warmth of the Carribean would entice Emmylou to dress 'appropriately' -- i.e.'inappropriately') How can you pass it up? - I've already paid the initial installment. Now I've just got to talk my husband into going. (PARA) I guarantee you many of these guys were/are big Band fans. I know Hiatt is/was. And of course Emmylou. It's not that expensive - just GO!(para) if that link about doesn't work, go to http://www.cayamo.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1069


Entered at Fri May 15 18:20:20 CEST 2009 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Road Weary, (or wave weary)

I don't know if any of you folks have noticed, out here there is still a great amount of snow coming down on the higher highways.......crazy. People world wide getting hit with horrible weather.

Todd, I really doubt whether many people here, (at least the long timers) thought that Simon was referring to BFB. Those folks over there, although set in their ways of thinking are a pretty polite, laid back and respectful group of folk. Bob Wigo doesn't say much here any more except a word here and there, and to show a link to something interesting, and doesn't say anything negative about any one. For the most part they are all that way.

I think there was enough attention paid to two particular people, and their constant attempts to ignite combustion. Hopefully it will be left at that.

From where I stand, it was interesting to have a member of any one of those five guys families, stop by and take the time to give any of us "the time of day". I absolutely feel that Sebastian behaved with a great deal of class. The way he answered questions tells me he has had some good upbringing and it came from some one who really cares about him, and he obviously loves. I find that heart warming, and a good example of how we should all treat these people.

Many of you here are musicians, and if you've been "on the road", (and I only had a small taste of it), then you know why the expression, "an impossible way of life".

In my experiences with some of my musicians, watching a guy, who is a smoking guitar player, ripped right out of his head on coke, totally fuck up, (and he thought he was great). I just wanted to kill him. Now at 54, away from drugs, but still smoking his face off. He looks like he's 74.

Fortunately for me my last band, when I got away from the business, as I've mentioned before. Non of the 5 of us smoked, and we rarely even had a beer. Playing with those guys was one of the best parts of my life. Getting away from it tho' was even better.

The bar scene, and watching all the people who are there night after night, is a depressing way of life. It has always been hard not to have seen such a "perfect" ensemble of rock musicians keep playing forever as we all probably would have liked. However for a man to change his life to what he feels will be better for him and his family, is not to critisize. It takes some doing to change your life, and in very bad situations, some people never can.

As J Tull admitted to, this site for many has become a part of life, and hard to walk away from. Wouldn't it be nice if every one was able to keep this site as Jan has hoped for. A place where there is no need to feel like you want to stay away.

Lets hope every one can keep that in mind, I hope every one in reflecting on the positive will have a good and happy day. I've got to go and work my tale off painting my tug now that the weather has relented a little. When I get home, I'm going to pull out the DVD from A Musical History, and watch Richard sing "Rockin' Chair", and think about Lars. Maybe I'll give him a call and get in an argument with him about football, or baseball or fishing or sumpthin. Swear at him a little, just to stay in practice. David Powell, I see somewhere back there, you're giging again a little. Don't forget the tiquila shot glass........


Entered at Fri May 15 17:22:07 CEST 2009 from 69.183.14.138.adsl.snet.net (69.183.14.138)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: GB Confusion

Bob, I think a lot of people assumed that Simon was talking about BFB. The chance that others did too highlights the point that the negative site, wherever it is, is probably not on many people's radar....certainly not mine. I don't want the URL, but I don't want people getting the wrong idea about BFB which seemed like a possibility.

I think I've said enough about this issue.

Really glad that the folks in Minnesota are going to get a chance to attend a Road Ramble. Have fun!


Entered at Fri May 15 17:01:15 CEST 2009 from pool-71-246-5-95.phlapa.fios.verizon.net (71.246.5.95)

Posted by:

bob w.

Even though I responded respectfully I made an assumption concerning Simon's post that was incorrect. That being said I would like to offer a public apology to Simon.

Simon, I am sorry.


Entered at Fri May 15 16:44:33 CEST 2009 from host86-150-246-149.range86-150.btcentralplus.com (86.150.246.149)

Posted by:

Simon

Here's something Band related - seeing how it's always been a mystery regarding the elusive first generation mastertapes for "The Band" ... AND it now appears that said tapes were loaned to Steve Hoffman for the Audio Fidelity reissue of said album ... well, I would have thought that the audiophiles on this guestbook would be able to shed a bit of light on where they came from. Or is it a big secret? If it's such a big secret then why is that the case?

And a tip of the brim to Claire, Bonk, Deb, Jersey Girl et al.

One last thing. The reason I had a hunch that Sebastian may have (although I don't know for sure, obviously) been offended by the site I was alluding to is because of the way it's very similar to something official. And I maintain that that's valid comment on a Band guestbook and hardly out of context.

Laters.


Entered at Fri May 15 16:23:43 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

In my opinion, one should be more concerned with what's been posted here of late. With so much Band-related news surfacing recently -- new music, reissues, guest appearances etc. -- some still try to find something completely out of context to focus upon in a negative manner. This is a guestbook and guests should mind their manners.


Entered at Fri May 15 16:08:28 CEST 2009 from blk-222-220-73.eastlink.ca (24.222.220.73)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Together Through Life

Sorry guys but I love it to death. Certainly Dylan's best of the past six months or so. Then again I'm a big fan of 'Self Portrait'. Dylan's in a great groove, as comfortable as a pair of old boots.


Entered at Fri May 15 15:54:34 CEST 2009 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: it's stopped raining, for now, metro DC

I can't say I'm much of an expert "world traveler," but I LOVE BERLIN! I think I'd move there if I could talk Mr. Steve into going.

Peter, I'm glad it's not just me, I thought the new Dylan CD was horrible. Steve was playing it in the car the other morning on the way to work . . . I put on my headphones/ipod and listeded to "Bringing it All Back Home."

Steve (in Canada) just loves the attention . . . . as long as you guys take the bait, he'll keep going.

J.F.


Entered at Fri May 15 15:42:41 CEST 2009 from 69.183.14.138.adsl.snet.net (69.183.14.138)

Posted by:

Todd

Subject: Correction

Of course I meant to say that I "can't" speak for the rest of the World Wide Web. This typing with your toes is harder than I thought.


Entered at Fri May 15 15:37:11 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

What happened to Simon's posts?


Entered at Fri May 15 15:37:01 CEST 2009 from 69.183.14.138.adsl.snet.net (69.183.14.138)

Posted by:

Todd

Sorry jan. I was typing my response as you posted yours. Please feel free to delete mine if necessary. But I support your sentiment. Let's all try to get along. There is no reason to trash anyone. And by and large that hasn't been happening here or at BFB. I can speak for the rest of the World Wide Web.


Entered at Fri May 15 15:31:37 CEST 2009 from 69.183.14.138.adsl.snet.net (69.183.14.138)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Bob & Simon, I'm glad that both of you posted to clarify that BFB is not the site in question that Simon is talking about.

As Bob correctly states, BFB is NOT a site set up to trash anyone. Just like here, people have their opinions, and by and large the focus is on things that people like & enjoy. The only time any negativity pops up is when misconceptions pop up in other places.

There is not a lot of time, if any, spent discussing Band business or feud related matters. If anything, I always thought that the site might be most friendly to Rick. After all BFB 'Book Faded Brown' is a song that Rick sang. And everybody loves Rick! Right?

I don't know what site Simon is talking about, and it doesn't sound like the type of place that I'd like to visit.

I would just like the fair minded people here.....especially those who only seem to post when there is some sort of "crisis" or to comment on other people's posts and never seem to offer anything positive or original on their own.... to stop "trashing" BFB and the people (like me) who post in both places. It's tiring and petty and really needs to stop.


Entered at Fri May 15 15:24:03 CEST 2009 from (85.255.44.145)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: Then we took Berlin...

Just came back from an internet- and TV-free week in Berlin, Germany. Very enjoyable, that was. Can't say the same about what's been going on here while we were away. We've only read stuff from the last two days, that was more than enough. A mild clean-up has been done, now please behave and f***ing respect that this site is supposed to be a tribute to The Band. So, no more personal attacks, no more trashing of any of our heroes here, thank you.


Entered at Fri May 15 14:04:22 CEST 2009 from server.mjhayward.com (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike

Been gradually getting thru the Rolling Stone Bob Dylan interview / article & there's a nice nod to Rick Danko as a co-songwriter w/ Dylan.


Entered at Fri May 15 13:14:33 CEST 2009 from staff-proxy.bcu.ac.uk (193.60.133.201)

Posted by:

Roger

Subject: For RTO

Rob - I saw Nick Lowe last night - first time I've seen him live and would give it 6/10. Great duet with Ron Sexsmith (who opened niceley too). Some of the set was a bit hedgehoggy - MOR music but some absolute gems too. When Kirstie was asking for compilation tracks I'd forgotten 'Indian Queens'... Last Sunday I saw Andrew Bird - brilliant. 9/10. Two weeks ago Dylan at the Dome - 1/10.


Entered at Fri May 15 12:41:34 CEST 2009 from 21cust248.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.248)

Posted by:

Steve

Deb you don't have to twist what I say to find offense. I said if I was a family member I wouldn't post here. That's all.

Interesting isn't it, everyone knew the statement instantly. That's why if I was a son of one of the members I wouldn't post here.

Peter do you work the shell game at summer carnivals or festivals?


Entered at Fri May 15 10:09:16 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: BoB stuff

Stabbi … bad stuff about Garth. He hasn’t made enough records.

On Wednesday, I had a two and a half hour each way journey, and put the new Dylan in the car, thinking I’ll listen to it all day and really get past my initial negative response. The first time I heard “Life is Hard” I thought this is as bad as anything Dylan has ever recorded. Then I heard it in Borders, and shoppers were saying, ‘This is awful! Turn it off.’ I then thought, ah, Dylan, doing it again … maybe it’s deliberately so bad that it’s good. So I listened a few more times. No, I think it really is garbage. My Wife’s Home Town made me desperate to hear Muddy Waters or the Rolling Stones playing Just Wanna Make Love To You, and pleased that Dylan broke the rule of the lifetime and co-credited the guy who really wrote it, Willie Dixon. Jolene? Very nice backing indeed. Quite like the song. I Feel A Change Comin’ On … brilliant. Worth the price of admission. Overall? Three stars at most and that’s generous. Anyway, I then switched over to the iPod and played Blonde on Blonde (on Apple Lossless of course).

We all age. It’s a wonder that Dylan’s still doing what he’s doing, but then listen to Blonde on Blonde to see what a pale shadow he’s (inevitably) become. Happens to all of us. From there I went on to Planet Waves. It confirmed my 1973 impression, The Band sound weak and a bit diffident next to the Blonde on Blonde team. Then to Street Legal. The power’s back at full force. Four Dylan albums made a pleasant day. When they ran out (I’d skipped Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands) I listened to the bonus Theme Time Radio Hour that came with Together Through Life. I enjoyed it more than the main album.

So back to the point. For most of Blonde on Blonde, apart from one track, only one Band member was present, Robbie Robertson. Recording that in a short break from the 1965 / 1966 tour must have been a revelation to Robbie. You spend five years with the same guys developing a sound. Then you get pulled out and put with a bunch of other guys you’ve never met, and hey! They’re just as good in their own ways. The resulting album is what I’d give to anyone who doubted that Robbie was a more interesting and creative guitar player than (e.g.) Eric Clapton or most others you’d care to mention. That’s a basic lesson. There’s always someone as good. And Blonde on Blonde has often topped my ever changing list of my favourite album of all time. That must have changed the dynamic in the Band extraordinarily. Levon had gone. Robbie was the only one invited down to do the record. On the back of Blonde on Blonde, he could have walked into any of the then rapidly forming bands. As could any of the guys on the 65/66 tour, on the back of the tour. What was happening everywhere was that bands were travelling to big centres. They’d all been buddies in some far-flung area and migrated to the big city to make it. Then the best guys in each band came together and formed new ones … follow Neil Young’s trajectory for instance. If that had happened, it would have been tragic because we wouldn’t have had the Band.

I’d assume it all got cemented together again in the Basement Tapes era, which is when Levon, returning at the end, said the Band first found their vocal blend. i.e. The Hawks never had that. So the five members developed something unique. I mean unique too, not just influential. No one quite touches it.

As to “Could Robbie have been successful on his own?” The answer lies in the fact that most large stores like Borders or HMV until a year or two back when they all dropped 90% of their back catalogue, had at least two solo Robbie albums in stock, the first solo and Contact. Until Dirt Farmer, he was the only Band member represented at that level of public interest. Fact. And just before the Levonistas boil over, I’ve said that there is no better Band solo album than Dirt Farmer. Not it’s the best, but just “there’s no better.”


Entered at Fri May 15 06:44:48 CEST 2009 from (69.37.138.51)

Posted by:

Tracy

Jeff, shouldn't you be thinking of taking this up with Robbie's accountant, not his son who was two at the time of The Band's end to the original line up? Sebastian has been kind to answer questions he himself has had no part in. He's gracious, willing, and full of interesting information. I'm sure other people would like to know more answers than the done-to-death subject animosity which is brought up and then brings up animosity among fans. Come on! You should be happy that somebody who has actual knowledge of things would want to contribute. For all of the grand statements of this place being the "official" Band site, the least thing you can do is show class and an ounce of decorum. I don't think anybody would treat Ezra or Amy this way.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie

I have asked my sister-in-law to tell me what she knows of the group. She is Brazilian and has been involved in the music business there. I'll pass on what she comes up with.


Entered at Fri May 15 06:00:55 CEST 2009 from s0106000a956fbfac.cq.shawcable.net (70.78.227.124)

Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Deb

If you're saying Sebastian "as much as said" he's never coming back, then how do you reconcile this with the fact that in the last part of his most recent post he actually said "I'll do my best to check in every once in a while". Though perhaps you're saying something else, as I'm sure you can see that these two statements would be contradictory. Unless by checking in Sebastian meant lurking, which seems an unlikely thing for him to do and an even more unlikely thing for him to announce he'd be doing.

Respectfully, NB.


Entered at Fri May 15 05:48:25 CEST 2009 from cpe-24-161-40-47.hvc.res.rr.com (24.161.40.47)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: The lumberjack territories

ZUCK- Are you implying that I'M A FAG? If you got something to say about my skin, say it TO MY FACE!!!

(I was just testing to see for myself how a light joke can look like an ugly threat unless I explain that the beginning of this post is said in jest. Zzzz is like a brother to me. I guess my point is that you can't be too careful how you present an idea when people can't see anything but your words).

If we're not careful, peace could break out.


Entered at Fri May 15 05:25:48 CEST 2009 from s0106001c109f95ec.vc.shawcable.net (24.83.168.217)

Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Playlist

Oh, yeah-the playlist is finished. Thanks to all for your suggestions. If anyone missed out I will still be taking recommendations until I leave in two weeks.

Kevin-I really enjoy The Waterboy's!


Entered at Fri May 15 05:23:26 CEST 2009 from s0106001c109f95ec.vc.shawcable.net (24.83.168.217)

Posted by:

Kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Os Mutantes "a Minha Menina"

This is a new discovery for me. I can't find a Band connection, but it is a damn good song!

If anyone here knows anything about this band, I would be happy to have it...Peter-I was imagining you knew this band.


Entered at Fri May 15 05:15:35 CEST 2009 from c-75-72-126-40.hsd1.mn.comcast.net (75.72.126.40)

Posted by:

Zzzz

Web: My link

Actually, that video (see above link) is pretty creepy, sicko... good music though...


Entered at Fri May 15 05:08:10 CEST 2009 from c-75-72-126-40.hsd1.mn.comcast.net (75.72.126.40)

Posted by:

Zzzz

This place is kinda like that new Bob Dylan video... everybody smacking everybody else around... but then not leaving... coming back and kissing the dude you just backed into with the car... hehehe... Man, you gotta have tough skin...


Entered at Fri May 15 04:48:07 CEST 2009 from cache-dtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

Friend0

Jersey, you really are a funny woman.


Entered at Fri May 15 04:34:20 CEST 2009 from ool-43531c9c.dyn.optonline.net (67.83.28.156)

Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Will it never end?

Smoke signals, Jeff? Threats is more like it. Why on earth would Sebastian, or anyone else for that matter, want to debate you here? This is a site for fans of The Band, not a place for you to subject other people to your verbal version of enhanced interrogation techniques. You thought that because Sebastian was kind enough to answer legitimate questions from us fans meant it was your opportunity to make the same unsupported and ridiculous allegations you've bored and annoyed us with all these years, only this time directly in the face of the son of the man you're defaming? Who appointed you grand inquisitor?

You like to accuse people of trying to control the way others post. Clearly, no one can control the way you post, but I think we're at the point where some of us wish someone would. You defame Robbie Robertson and bully anyone who dares to disagree with you. I and those others who have spoken out today can just try to ignore you. To us you're just an annoyance. But what you did to Sebastian, and by extension to Robbie, goes beyond annoyance. You're really corrupting this place and making it impossible for us to enjoy it for it's original purpose. Between your sick rants and Steve's nasty jokes, this place has become toxic. I suppose you both would like to just drive the rest of us away, and maybe you'll succeed.


Entered at Fri May 15 04:18:08 CEST 2009 from c-75-72-126-40.hsd1.mn.comcast.net (75.72.126.40)

Posted by:

Zzzz

My wife just dug deep, Jer... and put us up somewhere in the 2nd balcony... so we will be in the house!...


Entered at Fri May 15 03:31:00 CEST 2009 from cache-dtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

Friend0

Sebastian, sorry for the typo in you name in the earlier subject line.


Entered at Fri May 15 03:29:48 CEST 2009 from saintpaul.pioneerpress.com (198.36.218.33)

Posted by:

Jerry

Mike, Thankyou, I must have missed it. Maybe another time for RR and EC.

Zzzz, I found out about it last Friday and it was the first day tix went on sale, so I hope you get some. I almost gave up hope that Levon would ever make it up here, so this is pretty cool.


Entered at Fri May 15 03:16:25 CEST 2009 from cache-dtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Deb/Simon/Sebastain

Actually Deb and Simon, speaking for myself, I thought Sebastian being here was very interesting. And if he stuck around, i was interested in discussing the content of the posts he had made with him. Very civilly, and on the words, the content..I did relay that message successfully, and it was Sebastian's choice whether he wanted to stick around or not. And I am certain that I wasn't the only one who felt that if Sebastian was going to continue to post the company line, we could discuss it with him. Many people were courteous, and gave Sebastian time to decide if he was going to stick around and discuss the points he made, or not. No one brought up the issues present in the posts he made. I was considerate enough to point out that we read the posts closely and that sooner or later he will get debated like just another poster. While it would have been fair to have the discussion, I thought it was fair to raise the prospect that there would be a discussion. For those of you who have no understanding of smoke signals, there you go. I also made the point that it would be better if Robbie wrote a book , and in detail told his story. I think that is easier on Sebastian myself. Sebastian is Robbie's son. I don't expect him to think other than he does. But truly, it wouldn't to be fair to him to have to argue his father's side. Essentially, anyone who said that this is not a comfortable place for him to be, that is all they meant.

Far as the info Sebastian gave that the publishing is split 5 ways, that is new knowledge here. It is not a confirmation, as Munson says. In the years I'm here noone ever discussed the possibiltiy that the publishing was always a 5 way split.

Far as The Band goes, noone here loves The Band's music more than I. I believe there are many other posters who love The Band's music as much as I. What The Band created that was timeless was the result of 5 guys working together. The songs, regardless of who wrote them or how much of them, never woulda happened if they weren't togteher the way they were when they were. You cannot separate out experience. I certainly hope Sebastian is reading this,. Because one of the things i wanted to discuss with him is the phenomena of posters here, the most prominent of them being Peter, who insist that Robbie would have been as successful with out the other 4 members, Insist that the songs woulda been as successful with out the other 4. That Robbie coulda woulda wrote the same songs and have been as successful as a songwriter without the other 4 to interpret the songs first. Another proposition made frequently is that the drummer was very replaceable. And not that important to the songs being as popular as they were. I myself feel that Sebastian would say, as I have always said, this is hogwash.Bbut I really do want him to know that these ridiculous propositions get promoted here endlessly.


Entered at Fri May 15 02:24:40 CEST 2009 from host671420026130.direcway.com (67.142.130.26)

Posted by:

Lil

Lars: I have Dick Pepper's e-mail address. Mail me.


Entered at Fri May 15 02:22:18 CEST 2009 from 74-130-93-165.dhcp.insightbb.com (74.130.93.165)

Posted by:

stabbi

Let's face it -- Garth is just about the only Band member who hasn't been drug thru the mud in here. After all, what can you possibly say bad about Garth?


Entered at Fri May 15 02:04:20 CEST 2009 from cache-mtc-ad10.proxy.aol.com (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: JQ

Hey JQ, Could you e mail me at cousinmoe58ataoldotcom? Thanks.


Entered at Fri May 15 01:49:37 CEST 2009 from pool-72-64-2-31.cncdnh.east.myfairpoint.net (72.64.2.31)

Posted by:

Mike

Jerry: Eric is going to perform on Robbie's solo album, but the collaborative album is shelved as Eric wanted to spend more time w/ his young fam.


Entered at Fri May 15 01:49:16 CEST 2009 from c-75-72-126-40.hsd1.mn.comcast.net (75.72.126.40)

Posted by:

Zzzz

Thanks for the head's up, Jer... I gotta talk with the Missus when she gets home... get me 2-5 tickets myself...


Entered at Fri May 15 01:43:12 CEST 2009 from user-24-236-77-125.knology.net (24.236.77.125)

Posted by:

Deb

Northern Boy, probably because Sebastian as much as said he wouldn't be back. And because that's what Steve wants. He's already said that he thinks relatives of The Band probably shouldn't post here. It's just so much harder to ridicule someone or practice outright character assassination if his relatives could be around. It's just so much more "fun" to make nasty jokes outside the notice of his family. At least that's what I've been told over the years when I've objected to the way some posters characterize Robbie Robertson on a Band site. It's just "fun" to joke about his wardrobe, his voice, his mannerisms, blah, blah, blah. Others have such indepth knowledge of things that occurred outside their presence that a commitment to truth, justice and the American Way compels them to expound and pontificate and act as self-appointed arbiters of justice. How would you like to read that kind of, um, stuff about your father? Besides, anyone who isn't having "fun" or doesn't agree is overreacting or as someone once characterized me "running around with their hair on fire." The man's not my father, but I'm beyond bored with it. I don't want to fight or argue. By all means, carry on those of you who enjoy it and continue having "fun." I'd rather read the disclaimer for a magazine contest in Lithuanian. And there's more wit and originality in a copy of Reader's Digest published the day Steve was born.

I respect the tremendous amount of work that Jan has invested in creating this remarkable site, but in the interests of truth in advertising, it needs a disclaimer too: Please consider this site a "Robertson" free zone.

Now let the posts ripping me for overreacting begin. I've got side bets on the order in which they'll come. Don't me let me down, boys.


Entered at Fri May 15 01:09:26 CEST 2009 from saintpaul.pioneerpress.com (198.36.218.33)

Posted by:

Jerry

Location: Minnesota

I just got tix for the Levon Helm Band here on June 10th. I've never seen him live, so this is a first for me. Jim Weider will be with him and I've never had the privledge to see him either, so this will be a good night. I would think I'd hear some of "Electric Dirt" and "Dirt Farmer" as well as a few from the Band. To tell ya the truth I could care less, he could sing and play anything and I'd be happy. A real nice surprise to say the least.

Did anyone ask Sabastian if his Dad and Eric are still working on something? I scrolled back looking for that.


Entered at Fri May 15 01:09:03 CEST 2009 from s0106000a956fbfac.cq.shawcable.net (70.78.227.124)

Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Steve's Most Recent Post

Stevon Farm: In your most recent post, you referred to Sebastian's most recent post as his "parting post". Pourquoi, Bon Ami ? It makes it sound like he won't be back. Whereas, he ended with "I'll do my best to check in every once in a while and thank all of you for keeping the legacy of the greatest Band ever alive".NB


Entered at Thu May 14 22:28:15 CEST 2009 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest

Well so long Sebastian, it was refreshing to hear some unbiased and level head commentary about these subjects. Your answers to some pretty crasy questions here and there were very controlled and honest.

Apologies for some of what you have endured. Even by those who like to continue with the sour grapes, your father enjoys a great deal of our respect and admiration. As a composer, musician, entertainer, and as a family man, he deserves the respect. You certainly don't owe anyone any explanations, nor does your father. I would put money that your father doesn't feel he needs to write a book to "tell his side", as some one in bad taste put it. He has paid his dues in his chosen career, and owes no one anything.

Now on the other hand for one of the "Bowery Boys" like Jeff to assume to correct, spelling, or grammar or punctuation. I fell off my chair laughing again. Very entertaining, "I'm doing this for your own good, so you'll fit in. So big bad Peter, or some one doesn't come after you."

Gawd damn it! That is as lame as, "Well I make all these mistakes because I'll typing with my toes 'cause my fingers don't work." The head cuckoo, I'm in and out 20 times a day, so I type all this crap as fast as I can to try and stay ahead of every body! NOW TYPE LIKE I TELL YA, NOT LIKE I DO GAWD DAMN IT!!!!

This is too much......I can't listen any more...my heart.....


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Plochmann Lane" blog now on Last.fm.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Plochmann Lane" blog now on JamBase.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Nice pics on Joan Baez's website from the May 3rd Pete Seeger b'day celebration @ MSG.


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Posted by:

David P.

Thanks Lars for checking. I believe Jimi Hendrix and Steve Cropper may have been on the same bill together at one point when they were playing, repectively, with the Isley Brothers and Booker T. & the MGs.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Mercy, Mercy

Peter-

I just got off the phone with Sredni and he said that Jimi Hendrix did the guitar playing on "Mercy, Mercy." He also said that Covay and Hendrix were hanging around both Little Richard and the Isley Bros in their early years. He asked me how Don Covay was doing because he had heard Don had had a stroke. I told him I didn't know.

Sredni wants to get hold of the "Hot Blood" album very badly. Said there were some great songs on that album. If anybody has a tape or CD of "Hot Blood" I can give you Sredni's mailing address (after I get permission from him, of course). For some reason, Sredni has very little of his music saved. He often speaks of Dick Pepper and says that he would love to get in touch with him, even if it was just to talk.

BTW, I am in no way part of Sredni Vollmer's management. I'm a friend who hates to see him stuck in his trailer all day. He should be out making music, but a lot of people have forgotten him. I'm simply trying to keep the flame alive. He is still sharp as a tack and he puts on quite a show when he gets an occasional gig and plays his harp. He is a "force" on stage.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: All Along The Wachtower

Black and white underground cartoons were a nice piece of art in the late sixties. One of them showed DYLAN and ALLEN GINSBERG as "the two riders who were approaching". Ginsberg's famous work can be heard in the verse: "and THE wind began to HOWL". - Says the underground cartoon.


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Posted by:

David P.

Peter V: Maybe the descrepancy is due to the old confusion created by the differences is listing months/day in dates. The U.S. release date listed as 9/7/68 (Sept. 7) could have been erroneously misinterpreted as July 9.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: There must be some way out of here …

A bit more internet research. This says All Along The Watchtower was released 18 October 1968 on Track in the UK with Long Hot Summer Night on the B-side, but 4 September 1968 on Reprise in the USA with Burning of the Midnight Lamp as the B-side. So where does Hounsome’s Single File get that July date? They all agree that the catalogue number was Track 604 025. The thing is you get one error in a reference book and it goes on forever


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Posted by:

Peter V

David, this is what I thought I’d posted yesterday, but I was in a hurry and apparently didn’t. The story comes from the Stax Singles Box Set Volume 2.

Private Number was released in July 1968, produced by Booker T. Jones . It was written by Booker T. and William Bell as a potential follow up to Tramp for Otis Redding and Carla Thomas. Both were playing on a Judy Clay session which finished early, and she had time and needed something to record. Private Number was half-written and they sat down and finished writing it on the spot. Clay had difficulty learning the song, so Bell recorded a demo for her. Judy Clay recorded the song as a solo number the next day, and Booker T. had the idea of combining Bell’s demo with Clay’s performance as one track. Neither Bell nor Clay knew it was going to be a duet. As I did manage to post, enigmatically, this seems odd as the lyrics are male verse / female response. Maybe Booker T had the idea, tested it, then they adjusted the lyric and recut. The recording date was sometime after Stax split from Atlantic in May 1968.

Jimi Hendrix’s single of All Along the Watchtower was released in July 1968 according to Hounsome's Single File, but in October 1968 according to the Guinness Book of Hit Singles (when it went on to chart). I’d never noticed the similarity, but isolated on the youtube video, it’s clear that one is based on the other.

The first version of "All Along The Watchtower" was cut on January 20th 1968, and mixed on January 26th 1968 on 4 track in London, but Hendrix was quickly dissatisfied with the result and went on re-recording and overdubbing guitar parts during June, July, and August at the Record Plant studio in New York. Jimi also played bass, and Dave Mason played acoustic guitar. The album was released in September 1968.

Next question … is the single the same as the LP track? I have “Cornerstones” which are the single mixes, and the original Voodoo Chile single (which had Hey Joe / Watchtower as ‘bonuses’ on the B-side), but I don’t have Electric Ladyland.

If Private Number was released on 9 July, and Jimi was overdubbing in June / July / August, all is possible.


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Posted by:

David P.

Despite the similarity of the guitar parts in "Private Number" and "All Along The Watchtower", I don't think Hendrix had heard the Stax single before he recorded the song. According the Stax 50th Anniversary compilation liner notes, "Private Number" was released on 9/7/68, right around the time of the Hendrix release.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: No Tell Motel credits

Hm. The Motel No Tell? (whatever it is)\ Having just read those lyrics, seems that just might be the type of song where you DON'T want your name on the credits. You know your mama sees these things - yes, she does.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sredni does get the writing credit on the album, BTW.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Richmond Strats Covay

Simon – the name brings up hazy memories. We used to hitch up to Richmond for the clubs, hang around afterwards till morning and hitch back.

On Strats … circa 1969 / 1970 one of the main sources for British musicians acquiring guitars was playing in Germany. Once you got to the American zone (Frankfurt, Munich etc) good guitars were legion. I suppose American servicemen brought them over, and sold them when they left. They were way cheaper in the USA than the UK too, and you could probably buy them on the bases (was it “PX”?). American LPs were around in quantity in the south too. I’m told Germany still is better than Britain for turning up great old guitars. One for you Norbert … but you must be in what used to be the British area, so it’ll be ukuleles!

NO TELL MOTEL … this great track is the last one on the “Don Covay Definitive Collection” which Billy Vera compiled as well as doing the liner notes. It says “Musicians unknown. Recorded Sigma Philadelphia October 21st 1975”. So contact Razor & Ie records and let them know! Mind you, the compilation is 1994 and more surfaces all the time on this stuff. The Hendrix "Mercy Mercy" story needs a little investigation.That Hendrix site is great, but Jimi did not play on Aretha's "Respect" but it lists it and says "did not play on it" so myths still surround him (as well as the plasters casters story, which relates to a disgusting Led Zeppelin story).


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hot Blood album, 1975 , Sredni recorded with Covay.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Hendrix- Covay association

RHYTHM JIMMY (and David and Peter)- Sredni Voller has told me numerous times that he wrote a song with Don Covay, "No Tell Motel." I remember googling it a while back and Don Covay (no mention of Sredni) is listed for the credit for the song. Sredni played with Covay at some point.

I'd call Sredni up and ask him if he knows anything about the association of Hendrix and Covay, but it's kind of late and I can't imagine what Sredni would be like if I woke him up. Next time I call him I'll ask him about it. Sorry I'm about five hours too late on this conversation, but I just got here. One of those days.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Provide Robbie w/ your input on his next solo album's title.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Ari

Thanks for the clip, but I would rather forget she ever recorded it, all the same. I wonder what Levon thinks of that version?


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Steve Earle

I like Steve Earle, but he ain't no Townes. And I will stand on a coffee table in my cowboy boots and tell him that!


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Posted by:

Mike

Dexy: Thanks for that "Ramble" video link. There is nothing like a "Ramble." I hope the Rosedale students appreciate such an experience.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Some "fan" on Facebook thought Dominique was Robbie's mother . . . .

Got a copy of Steve Earl's new CD "Townes" today. First listen - it's OK. Maybe it'll grow on me.

JF


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Posted by:

Dexy

Web: My link

Subject: Great Levon video on YouTube

Hope this hasn't already been posted. Really nice mini-doc piece by a guy who took his Dad to a Ramble for his birthday at the link above.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Charlie Y

You are welcome. I am also interested in where this was recorded, what program, etc. And it would be so great to see Bruce at a ramble. Someone should suggest that! I know Bruce is a big fan of The Band.....


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

The link above is a useful resource - 'Early Hendrix'. It takes a few seconds to load but is nicely designed. I think Bill M might also like this.

Peter - was there a cafe in Richmond called the Auberge back in those days ... a sort of mod hangout? Also the John Perry 33 1/3 book is worth a purchase but there was something else of his I read that was intriguing. It was to do with how a lot of musicians in the late '60s managed to get hold of Stratocasters from the late 50's simply by virtue of being in the right place at the right time. I think Perry says he got his like this. To wit: there were a lot of guys who bought them when the first wave of rock & roll hit - and Strats cost a fortune in relative terms - but inevitably didn't become famous, got married, had kids, developed a beer gut and then seven or eight years later the missus would say "You still got that guitar under your bed? You know we could use the money for that extension/holiday/new car" etc.

There's got to be a short story in there somewhere.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Those extra tracks/ many versions

From the NY times. Interesting piece of Cd issues and multiple versions and bonus tracks.


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Posted by:

Mike

Bowman could be a child prodigy:).


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Posted by:

Lil

Kevin J wrote:

"Lil.....Rob Bowman was only a child in 68 --- he did have long grey hair though and talked in paragraphs....."

lol.. you're right. I guess it was the reissue I was thinking of...


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Hendrix & Covay

Thanks, David and Simon. Maybe the interview in the 33-1/3 book is reprinted from the same source that David read.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Don Covay

Mercy Mercy: The Definitive Collection has the song Mercy, Mercy recorded May 18th 1964, and says in the detailed credits “Don Covay and the Goodtimers. Ronald Millar – bass. Musicians unknown.” The liner notes are by Billy Vera … the guy I mentioned yesterday duetting with Judy Clay. He says the bass player in the performing band at that time was known as “The Preacher” and the drummer was Charles Honeyman Otis.

Is that little guitar intro Jimi? Like “Private Number” it’s a great guitar part.

RICHMOND ; fortunately by 1970, it had rained on Richmond bridge many times since 1965.


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Posted by:

Mike

"The Band is familiar with firsts. On their debut album, Music from Big Pink, with a Bob Dylan painting on the cover and a group photograph of their "Next of Kin" inside, the liner notes read: "A pink house seated in the sun of Overlook Mountain in West Saugerties, New York. Big Pink bore this music and these songs along its way. It's the first witness of this album that's been thought and composed right there inside its walls." Most people think that the notes are a poem. They're right. The poem was written by the woman who is married to Robbie Robertson, a Québecoise whose name is Dominique. It was the first time she'd written anything in a language other than her native French."


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Richmond

I frequented Richmond round about 1970. I remember thinking how trendy it was. So different from the Scotland I knew at the time.


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Posted by:

Mike

Thanks Kevin!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Mike……I have always been fascinated by cover songs. When I was just starting to get interested in music – switching from AM to FM and beginning guitar lessons, etc – at about 12 – the hit of the day was John Lennon’s Stand by Me which I thought was about the best thing I had ever heard. My older brother explained that the original was much better. Given that it was my brother telling me this and accounting for the fact that I was 12 – I thought he was a nut for even suggesting that anything could be better………..In bars, most covers sound good but it is a completely different thing when one listens to the song in a more sober environment. Sometimes a cover even sounds good for a while because I am just so happy to hear an otherwise overlooked artist get some attention……but was it really a good job? The other baffling thing is how some great talents just have no clue as to how out to lunch they are when attempting to cover another artist’s song. Some, of course, have impeccable taste. A young Rod Stewart’s covers of Elton John ( Country Comforts ) or Hendrix ( Angel ) or Dylan ( Only a Hobo ) or McCartney ( Maybe I’m Amazed ) – an example of someone in touch with their own range and talent. The older Rod’s take on Dylan’s “Sweetheart like You” was a butcher job.

Overdue.....Appreciate all your updates and links...thanks.

Lil.....Rob Bowman was only a child in 68 --- he did have long grey hair though and talked in paragraphs......


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: "A pink house seated in the sun of Overlook Mountain..."

Hint: It's sort of a trick question and the answer is close to the heart of who posed it. :-)


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Posted by:

sadavid

Mike: Mrs. Robertson.


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Hi Rhythm Jimmy. The only source I've got to hand for that meeting between Hendrix and Cropper is in of those little 33 1/3 series books - "Electric Ladyland" by John Perry. I'd highly recommend this. On page 105 is a transcript of a conversation the author had with Steve Cropper. He does scotch the myth that the pair of them recorded something together. That never happened. However ...

"Jimi came into Stax one day - and somebody said, "there's this guy out the front wants to see you". Well, that used to happen once or twice a day on a regular basis, and they'd be told "well look, Steve's real busy but if he has time he'll try and see you". I don't think I was cutting anything that day but I was out the back doing tape editing, a bunch of stuff and I completely forgot about it. Forgot anyone was waiting. In a situation like that, without being rude, I'd always assume when it reached a certain point that a secretary would go out and say "Sorry, but Mr Cropper's not going to have time to see you today" and boom - there you are.

So I finally came out about 5 o'clock ... one of the girls was still there and she said "did you see that guy wanted to talk to you today?" And I said "no - why, is he still hanging around?" and she said "Yeah, he just walked across the street to get something to eat - hopin' that he'd get a chance to still see you." She said "I think he's came in from outta town - he's not a local guy", and I felt real bad, y'know, that somebody had sat there all day long. Well I was hungry myself anyway, so I went over and introduced myself, and he said "yeah I play a little guitar, up in New York, a few places", and I said "uhhh great, what have you played on?" and he named a few things, then come up with a Don Covay record, "Mercy, Mercy". I said "You played on that!?" - 'cos that was one a my favourite records - that lick that's in there, that funky little intro lick. So we ate and I said "why don't you come over to the studio?"

He didn't have a guitar, and of course he was left-handed, but he took one of mine and turned it upside down, and tried to show me this lick - upside down! - which I never did quite get ... but anyway. We hung out for a bit, though we never did make any recordings or anything, like it says in those books. And then later we ran into each other a few times on the road. Next time I saw him, I was playing Monterey with Otis, and he was JIMI HENDRIX!"

The link is to that performance at the Flamingo club early '67.


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Posted by:

David P.

Rhythm Jimmy: I can't remember where I read the interview, but can still recall the basic details. I know there's some dispute as to whether Hendrix actually played on "Mercy Mercy" and I believe Don Covay himself was also an accomplished guitarist. Covay & Hendrix probably met while they were both working with Little Richard. I think I still have a Hendrix bio and I'll try to check further.

Speaking of guitar licks -- Covay also wrote "Chain of Fools" which was covered by Aretha Franklin. Her version featured Joe South on guitar (on the great tremelo "shake" intro), who was also featured, along with Robbie & others, on "Blonde On Blonde". Joe's shining moment on that record came on "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again", showing that he was influenced by Pop Staples & Curtis Mayfield as well. One of the guitars that Joe used on his session work was a modified Gretsch Country Gentleman, that he rewired with staggered pickups.


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Posted by:

Lil

Mike: Rob Bowman


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: "Music From Big Pink" trivia question.

Sebastian asked on The Band "facebook" pg who wrote the liner notes for the original "Music From Big Pink" '68 LP? Many folks are incorrectly stating Barney Hoskyns.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Cropper-Hendrix-Covay

David P., where did you find that anecdote about Steve Cropper meeting Jimi Hendrix in 1964?

I am interested not so much in the Cropper-Hendrix connection as in the Hendrix-Covay association and whether it is true that Hendrix played on "Mercy, Mercy." The arpeggio intro to that song (and its fraternal twin "Take This Hurt Off Me," also from the album "Mercy!") does sound like the later Hendrix (compare, say, "Little Wing").

However, I am curious why Covay would want a second lead guitar, since he already had the chops of guitarist Ronald Miller, with whom he had worked for some time. Possibly Hendrix played the rhythm part on this track.

Incidentally, there appear to be three guitars on "Mercy, Mercy" -- a rhythm line, the lyrical lead line first heard in the intro, and a bluesy line with a tone distinctly different from the first lead (following the last two verses).

Does anyone know whether some of the Hendrix biographies shed light on the Hendrix-Covay association?


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Subject: Robbie's guitar pedals and fingerpicks

Does he use any? I always got the impressiont that he never did. Also in terms of fingerpicks. I assume that he played with fingerpicks all the time until he dropped the Telecaster for the Strat in 74. So in 74 he stopped using fingerpicks? In Last Waltz I tried to look for some in Makes No Difference and didn't see any. In festival express, it looks like he's got them on during Slippin and Slidin.


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Posted by:

Mike

Kevin: Nice...we love Johnny Cash.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Johnny Cash doing TNTDODD. Nobody has ever come close to The Band's version.....Just one of those songs that can never be topped........


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Jerry Garcia's '75 Winterland performance of "Dixie."


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Another May the 10th

Joan: Jeez, "Stonewall's" even far worse than her original misinterpretation of "so much cavlary". Although they were once roommates at West Point, George Stoneman and Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson of course fought on opposite sides. Besides that, General Jackson died on May the 10th, 1863, two years to the day before the eventual capture of Jefferson Davis.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Just to share..,

I watched a wonderful quirky movie last night - "Lars and the Real Girl". It was well done. I could nit pick points but won't. If you get a chance to see it, watch it and let it roll - it is very entertaining.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Joan Baez

Stonewall's Cavalry?


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Posted by:

Mike

Kim & I caught a Joan Baez performance last yr just a few days before our 1st Midnight Ramble & she did a beautiful version of Dixie.


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Posted by:

Ari

Web: My link

Muppets and Joan Baez sing Dixie.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: The Band "facebook" page trivia contest.

Sebastian operates this page & will soon be asking a trivia question w/ a prize to the winner. He is 1st asking for prize ideas from readers.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Chris Bergson Band update.

From Chris' online newsletter:

Moulin Blues - Ospel, Netherlands 5/1/09

The Chris Bergson Band is back in New York, having just returned from their tour of the Netherlands! They had a fantastic time on this tour and are hoping to return to Europe soon. Some of the shows in the Netherlands have already made their way onto YouTube. Click here to watch the Chris Bergson Band performing live in the Netherlands at Groningen Rhythm and Blues Night: www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=TpMYthIEi4E

You can check out more tour photos here: www dot chrisbergson dot com/photos

I hope you can come see the band’s first show back in New York – the Chris Bergson Band will be performing this Friday at Rodeo Bar. Come by to hear some new tunes and stories from the road.

Rodeo Bar Friday, May 15 10:30 PM – 2 AM 375 Third Ave. (at E. 27th St.) No Cover w/ Jay Collins – tenor sax, backing vocals / Matt Clohesy – bass / Tony Leone – drums

Coming in June… Colony Cafe – Woodstock, NY Friday, June 19

I hope you can make it out!

Kate

Chris Bergson is a Brooklyn based Guitarist/Vocalist/Songwriter.

For complete show schedule, MP3s, bio, and photos, please visit:

chrisbergson dot com www dot chrisbergson dot com and myspace dot com/chrisbergsonband www dot myspace dot com/chrisbergsonband


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Posted by:

David P.

JQ: Many may be familar with Mr. Willner through his work on Saturday Night Live since the early '80s.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Hal Willner & what's playing here

Does anybody here know much about Mr Willner? I've been stuck-in on Marianne Faithfull's Easy Come Easy Go which he produced. I have faith that if I keep at that record I'll get it, but haven't yet. It seems his thing is to get renown musicians together and attempt something new altogether and to produce tribute shows with famous players too, eh?

I've also been in a renewed awe of Sam Cooke's Night Beat. That's a desert island disc for me. The new Zimmy is a struggle. Neko Case's new one can't touch her last: Fox Confessor. I gave up trying on that new one, but remain a big fan of her.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day Pete Merrigan!

Our local New England musician, who sounds much like John Hiatt & does a great version of The Band's "Cripple Creek," is celebrating his b'day today. Very cool guy.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Helm & Springsteen, Stone Pony

Kritie: Thanks for posting the link to the clip of Levon with Bruce Springsteen from the 1980s. It appears to have been shot off a TV screen. I'd love to know more about that gig and if any more of that video exists...


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: That's what I want...

Keith Richards speaks with a grudging respect for Klein these days - essentially, he said that they could have as much money as they wanted - they just asked, and he gave it to them (if My Memory, that Unfaithful Servant, Serves)...


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: MFBP from MFSL

I've just received a copy of the new hybrid SACD version of "Music From Big Pink" from Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab. Compatible with all CD players, it also offers the high-resolution DSD layer for those with SACD capability. Unlike the DVD-A version released several years ago, there's no multi-channel surround option. I've only had a chance to listen once, with no head-to-head comparisons with previous versions, but I'm amazed by how good this disc sounds. Coming on the heels of the gold-CD reissue of The Brown Album by Audio Fidelity -- it's a good time for Band fans, old & new.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Between trains

Interesting to see some talk about this song recently. I loke to think of it as a "lost" Band song in that it features 3 of the O5.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Faces on Top of the Pops … marvellous stuff. 1971 would have been in the “live” era. Due to Musician’s Union rules, bands had to either perform live, or sing live to a specially prepared backing track, done the day before in an ill-equipped BBC studio. A union rep would check in during the day to see them recording. No one actually used these backing tracks on air, they all had a backing track mix done from the original tapes and pretended it was the one from the day before. I think they could mime if they claimed it had been done the day before. And everyone knew it, which was odd. The dire alternative was performing live with the Top of the Pops Orchestra, a bunch of old session guys who were always drunk after lunch, and known for playing at half the speed or twice the speed. Several American artists flew over for the show,rehearsed with the Top of the Pops Orchestra, and stormed out of the studio never to return. The most famous were Simon & Garfunkel.

The Faces started the tradition of taking the piss on TOTP, so they appeared with DJ John Peel in the line up, or switched instruments or looned about. That’s why the comment on youtube (see Bob’s link below) criticizing Rod’s double bass playing may just be wrong, though the plucking does sound amateur. The Faces were always the most watcheable band on the show because you could expect the unexpected.

Richmond (Upon Thames) is not what it was in the mid-60s, sadly. I remember vomiting in the middle of Richmond Bridge at 2 a.m. circa 1965. Happy days.


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Thanks bob. A great tune, that. Although I worked on the high street I didn't spot any famous musicians in the four or five months I was there. On the other hand that was amply compensated by the girls who'd hang around the shop. All I can say is "Ooh la la." The view from Richmond hill is rather wonderful also.

Best wishes to Chris and his other half.

Here's a clip you might like ... Peter Serafinowicz. Fuck, that's hard to spell but I've got no excuse for getting it wrong. He was a few years below me in school. The guy is hilarious and the last line is dedicated to yourself, Tracy, Bayou Sam, Levon and all the skinbashers of the GB.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: BB/Todd

Bashful Bill-I have that album, and love it.

Todd-I have all the Dylan songs, but I think I may have to get into the Replacement's. I have heard very good things about them. Thanks.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Simon, always good to see you here. This one's for you.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Private Number

I listened to it this afternoon a few times. I'm somewhat dubious about the story I repeated about it being a combination of two different solo versions. For starters, the lyrics seem to be male verse then female response. The story comes from the "Stax Singles Box Set" booklet. I would suspect that its true in essence, but the two solo versions gave Booker T the idea of the duet, and they were indeed cut together to try it, but then it was partly rewritten and recut.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: BB/Steve

Basfull Bill-I did indeed see Kris-He was great! He did seem a bit tired at the show I attended, but his voice has also always had a really world-weary quality to it. Every song was like a story, and I felt like a kid sitting around a campfire...Like Leonard Cohen, they are limited to what they can do vocally, yet, they both have such hypnotizing voal styles. Hard to take your eyes of them, really. The highlight for me was "The silver tongued devil," by far.

Steve-I didn't manage to catch it, I was out for most of the day. I will see what I can dig up online. Thanks again for the tip.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kevin Tomasic

Thank you for the heads up on the Schiele exhibit.

OK, now go back to lurking. :)


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Posted by:

Simon

Peter / David - Thanks for the Hendrix / Cropper 'feedback', so to speak. There's a version of "Mercy, Mercy" in very poor audio quality on YouTube by the JHE early '67-ish. Easy enough to find if you put "Flamingo club' in the search.

I just noticed that Olympic Studios in Barnes closed recently ... pretty much all the Stones stuff from '66 to '71 was recorded there, not to mention the first Led Zep album and many classic Small Faces tracks including their two Immediate albums. Shame, really. I suppose it'll be converted into apartments or something. I did wander past it many years ago on one of those balmy afternoons going from pub to pub along that part of the Thames ... nice memories as I worked in Richmond during the summer of '89.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: You Got The Silver

After the Stones acrimoniously parted ways with Klein in the early '70s they brought Prince Rupert Lowenstein on board as their financial advisor. During the course of working with them for over 35 years or so, he eventually helped turn them into one of the highest grossing bands in history. Just last year the Stones left EMI and signed a new deal with Universal Music Group, which includes reissue rights to their catalog from 1971 forward, as well as new material. Paul McCartney had also previously parted ways with EMI after a 45-year association.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The stones had an idea of where the money was early on. The B-side of I Wanna Be Your Man was a "Nanker-Phelge" composition.

The Rolling Stones knew they had a sure-fire hit with their second release when Lennon and McCartney offered them I Wanna Be Your Man, in late 1963 when anything with a Beatle connection was a winner. Cannily they put their own composition, Stoned, on the B-side. Stoned is a throw-away jammed twelve-bar instrumental credited to Nanker Phelge, the invented name for compositions by Jagger-Jones-Richard-Wyman-Watts. It has excellent piano from the Stone made to play behind the curtain because he was uncool, Ian Stewart. Jagger adds a few words Stoned … Out of My Mind … There I Go … Where am I at? It's the warm up twelve bar any competent band would have tossed off in five minutes. It got the same publishing income as I Wanna Be Your Man. In the USA, the B-side makes the US London version extremely valuable ($1000 up to $10,000). US Decca pulled the single before release when they realized Stoned could just possibly be a drug reference. A handful escaped into circulation, hence the value. Its high value is weird when you consider it’s common enough in the UK in the Decca version.


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Posted by:

kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Bruce Springsteen and Levon Helm"up on criple creek."

Have you all seen this!?


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Posted by:

Todd

Subject: Live Ollabelle

I just re-read my previous post and noticed that I left out some info and might not have been clear. The song 'Everybody Loves a Winner' is one of the tracks on the "Live At Club Helsinki" release that I mentioned. That was my main point in posting the link, but I left that bit of info out. Sometimes I think that people can read my mind!

Yes Kevin, "Pleased to Meet Me" is a great Replacements album. For a Band conncetion, I know that they did some recording at Bearsville Studio in Woodstock, but I'm not sure what album that was for. I'm pretty sure it was after "Pleased To Meet Me", but before 'Don't Tell A Soul' around 1988.

I recall reading something about a lot of heavy drinking in those days and some sort of car crash while they were on their way to a local bar. Undaunted, they proceeded to walk the rest of the way to the bar. Something they probably should have been doing (walking) in the first place.


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Posted by:

Michael

Subject: Notes for the Brass section of "The Last Waltz"

Hi there, i'm searching for notes for the brass section of The Last Waltz cd. Is there a real book? are there other brass notes to buy from The Last Waltz? Thanks a lot! Michael


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: BROKE IN 1976

I recall reading somewhere that at the release of “Black and Blue” in or around the same time as The Band was calling it quits ( mid 70’s ), the Stones were effectively broke and only started making bundles of money with new record deals and the stadium tours that followed. Some people associated with The Band have held on to the belief that The Band could have followed a similar (if less grand) path. As much as I love them – that type of thinking always struck me as a tad optimistic. Funny though that Rick, Robbie, Richard and Levon were only in their early 30’s at the time of TLW. Since I was so much younger at the time – it never really struck me as to just how young they all still were ………..then again Paul McCartney wrote Eleanor Rigby in his early 20’s so sometimes wisdom comes early………………


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: The Stones, like the Beatles, learned the pitfalls of the publishing business the hard way. I believe Allen Klein's ABKCO Music controls the publishing for the early Jagger / Richards material.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Although, I wonder what Brian Jone's relationship with the Stones would be like now, if he were still alive.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Ari

You are a real character. Ha ha.

From what I remember reading about The Rolling Stones, things were not so pleasant always when it came to publishing/songwriting credits and payments. That being said, they are all still friends, no?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Sebastian: Thanks for your very classy last post, and for being so willing to answer questions from the assembled multitude here. It was especially good to have it confirmed that all five got an equal share of the publishing. I think Buffalo Springfield took the same route, even if the Beatles didn't.

Interesting that Paul and John were aware enough of the ego/money pitfalls of writing credits that they made a pact to credit each other, but seem to have neglected the other two. Anyone know what the Stones did?


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Posted by:

Kevin N. Tomasic

Location: Pittsburgh, PA.
Web: My link

Subject: William Scheele's Exhibit

Everyone, I'm a lurker here,but I wanted to pass on a note about the Band exhibit in Cleveland by William Scheele as listed here in Jan's site. I was priviledged to visit the gallery last Saturday (5/9)and it was a wonderful experience. First off, the photos are great, spanning from Watkins Glen to the last tour in 1976 and include some great images of Bob Dylan with our boys. Included also are two shots of Cher singing with The Band and Bob at her birthday party right at the end of Tour 74! My friend Kevin Scanlon and I spent a good couple of hours talking with Mr. Scheele about The Band (he was a roadie and helper for Jon Taplin,so he can spin a few tales)and he is very gracious and well spoken. I urge any fan of the Band to try and visit the exhibit-you won't be dissapointed. Back to lurking!


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Posted by:

Ari

Run, run, run, run, run


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Posted by:

Friend0

Steve, Ari can hang me again anytime he wants to. However, he still has a lot of growing up to do first. Probably about thirty to forty years worth of learning how to cordially and solemnly faced spin, lie and deceive, before he can hang with the likes of most of the posters here.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Above is Van M doing Sweet Thing in 2009 - it is also covered by the Waterboys on Fisherman's Blues.

The mention of The Replacements "Skyway" is funny because as Todd was going to go with the Waterboys but chose Aretha instead - I was going to sugeest "Can't Hardly Wait" by The Replacements and chose The Waterboys. Two of the absolute finest bands of the 80's. In fact, my two favorite albums in the 80's are Replacements "Pleased to Meet Me" which contains "Skyway" and "Can't Hardly Wait" and the Waterboys "This is the Sea"


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Everybody Loves A Winner

Yes David, Amy does a nice version of that. She did it at both of the Beacon Theater shows this past March. She's actually been doing that song occasionally at Ollabelle shows as far back as June 2007....at least that's the first time that I heard her do it.

Ollabelle has a self released live recording called "Live At Club Helsinki" from 2007 that's available as a download purchase from their website. You can get the full 20 song show, or just individual tracks. If you're a fan of their live shows, as I am, it's a nice companion piece to the "Live at Merlefest" from 2008 and their live album "Before This Time" also from 2008.
At the link above to their website, click "enter site", and then "store" to get to their selection of albums.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kristie, I don't know if you found The Leloup interview but I just heard it. It's a pretty well spent 30 minutes if you're into his music. His 5 years spent in Algeria when he was in his teens might interest Empty Now as well.

Abby, I agree on Sebastian and other offspring taking up residence here. I don't think I would.


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Posted by:

David P.

I've noticed from recent Ramble setlists that Amy Helm has been performing another classic William Bell / Booker T. Jones composition, "Everybody Loves A Winner".


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Next up: Virtual Rehab.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: More Songs

Kevin J. I just noticed that you posted a ‘The Whole of the Moon’ by the Waterboys as a suggestion for Kristie’s iPod list. I had strongly considered ‘Fisherman’s Blues’ by the Waterboys as my choice, but ultimately Aretha won out.

I used to visit a pub in Fairfield, CT called The Seagrape about 10 years ago. Small place by the beach…nothing really special or unique about the place, but they had Guinness on Tap, darts, and ‘Fisherman’s Blues’ on the jukebox. It was like a little slice of heaven on earth.

I’ve always thought that ‘Fisherman’s Blues’ was one of the best uses of violin in a Rock & Roll song since Scarlet Rivera’s work on Dylan’s ‘Hurricane’. It has such a presence that it wouldn’t be the same song without it.
Great lyrics too:

“I wish I was a fisherman
tumblin' on the seas
far away from dry land
and it's bitter memories
castin' out my sweet line
with abandonment and love
no ceiling bearin' down on me
save the starry sky above
with light in my head
with you in my arms...”

Some of my other top non-Band contenders for Kristie’s playlist were, ‘Before This Time’ by Ollabelle. ‘One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later)’ or ‘To Ramona’ by Dylan. ‘The River’ by Springsteen. ‘Another Girl, Another Planet’ or ‘Skyway’ by the Replacements. Or ‘Rain’ by the Beatles. According to my iTunes library, my most frequently played song is ‘Sweet Illusions’ by Ryan Adams from the album Cold Roses. But I don’t have everything from my collection in iTunes.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Cropper / Hendrix Connection

I recall a Steve Cropper interview where he described the first time he met Jimi Hendrix. In late 1964, long before he gained fame, Mr. Hendrix stopped by the Stax studio in Memphis and asked to meet Mr. Cropper. After finnishing his session work, Cropper, rather reluctantly at first, talked with the young guy who had persistently waited to see him. He soon became impressed when Hendrix mentioned that he had recently played on Don Covay's "Mercy Mercy" (a great song that was soon covered by the Rolling Stones). Three years later Cropper & Hendrix crossed paths again at the Monterey Festival.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill(again)

Location: Minoa, NY (still)

Subject: Kristie(again)

Oh yeah- did you see Kris Kristofferson recently(you mentioned having tickest awhile back), & how was the show? I saw him about a month ago. He was nursing a cold&an obviously aching back, & his schedule looked pretty heavy for a no longer young buck,but he was pretty good regardless. Not as good as other times I was fortunate to have seen him, but not a bad show.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Kristie

I'm going to throw you a couple offbeat suggestions. Are you familiar with The Legend of Jesse James? In late 70's- 78, I think - Levon, Emmy Lou, Johnny Cash, Rodney Crowell, Charlie Daniels&others made a nice collabrative concept album. It was produced by Paul Kennerly, who was at the time married to Emmy Lou. He had been producing some of her stuff&bringing out good work from her & he was also known for producing "concept pieces". He still does, I think, work with his ex & still works on concepts. Its a fine album & a must have for Band completists, unless you have no patience at all for the western myth genre. You seem to be pretty open-minded & eager to try new stuff&I predict you'd like it. As with most consept albums, none of the songs on it, really, are good stand-alone songs.Each song is part of the story & you have to be familiar with the whole thing to appreciate the smaller parts(though the reformed Band, starting away backwith that Cate Brothers tour, occasionally played a c ouple songs from it- One More Shot & A Train Robbery, the latter actually being a bonus track on the early 90's re-release). So, having possibly pigued your interest(if you arent already familiar with this album), I'm going to recommend 2 songs which can - almost - stand alone& would blend in well with anything on the other suggestions : High Walls is one of Levon's finest recorded vocals, in my opinion of course, & Emmy Lou's Wish We were Back in Missouri is typically beautiful. In the liner notes of one of her box sets she says that she's quite fond of this song in particular & adds that she's proud of participating on this album.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: AR AR AR

AR - it wasn't a case of somebody pissing him off - seems what he was trying to say in that last post is that maybe this is not the right venue for the son/daughter of ANY of these guys. People don't come in here wanting to walk on pins and needles. A few days maybe, but it wasn't going to be a permanent thing. Somebody was bound to say something... it's a little pink/son of little pink GB given. This place has changed, but not that much. Anyhow once it changes to the point that any of the Golden 5's (not being sarcastic, they really are golden)offspring could be even a semi-regular...well, might as well close it down. It'd be like going to day care every morning. "Go sit in the corner, now! You know we don't talk about grammar in here, young man! -- well, yes we do, but NOT TODAY!" I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's true. I'd stick to the Pop's venue and never, ever read ANY day of ANY month of ANY year of this gb's archives. You'd wanna kill somebody. Heck, I'VE wanted to kill people - lots of people....(para) Sebastian was an exempla/ory son. He was very gracious and bit nobody's head off even though he could've. It was great to have him visit. But for his sake as much as anyone's, I'd never expect more from him. Well, maybe a little visit in the future.....


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Steve Winwood turns 61 today.

Steve is projected to perform on Robbie Robertson's upcoming solo album.


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, The Hawks' theme song could be Dlew's non band musical choice. They were better , or at least a more exciting team than the boring big Canucks. They're still one more quality defenseman and a goalie away I think. But they're good and they're young.

Hopefully like the Red Wing players they'll decide to hang together for several years and see what they can accomplish.

Ar,you're not too late, we could dig up Friend0's corpse and hang him again if you feel cheated.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Private Number

Private Number was released in July 1968, produced by Booker T. Jones . It was written by Booker T. and William Bell as a potential follow up to Tramp for Otis Redding and Carla Thomas. Both were playing on a Judy Clay session which finished early, and she had time and needed something to record. Private Number was half-written and they sat down and finished writing it on the spot. Clay had difficulty learning the song, so Bell recorded a demo for her. Judy Clay recorded the song as a solo number the next day, and Booker T. had the idea of combing Bell’s demo with Clay’s performance as one track. Neither Bell nor Clay knew it was going to be a duet. The recording date was after Stax split from Atlantic in May 1968. Jimi Hendrix’s single of All Along the Watchtower was also released in July 1968 according to Single File, but October 1968 according to the Guinness Book of Hit Singles. I’d never noticed the similarity, but isolated on the youtube video, it’s screamingly clear that one is based on the other.

Wiki says Chas Chandler mixed the first version of "All Along The Watchtower" on January 26th 1968 but Hendrix was quickly dissatisfied with the result and went on re-recording and overdubbing guitar parts during June, July, and August at the Record Plant studio in New York. The album was released in September 1968.

The guitar part sounds SO Steve Cropper that I’d bet anything that Hendrix re-used it, and it was one of the additions done in NYC and Cropper was first.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Another Kristie iPod suggestion

The Band: The Weight (from TLW, with the Staples) - Mott the Hoople: All the Young Dudes


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Peter - Funny you should mention the intro to Private Number ... a few years ago I heard a dance track that looped the guitar intro to the song (which I assume was Steve Cropper) and at the time I couldn't place it. Have a listen to the first 30 seconds or so of the above link - an edumacated guess would be that Jimi Hendrix used that part for All Along the Watchtower. Not the screaming lead part or the acoustic backing but a kind of rhythm/lead bit that you can hear during the first verse ... which is isolated in the first bit of this clip. I reckon that's where Jimi got it from, assuming the chronology fits.

Kristie - A very difficult question but right now I'd say "The Unfaithful Servant" and "My Baby Loves Me" by Martha and the Vandellas (Four Tops backing vocals.)

Thanks again, Sebastian.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Thanks for the note on Private Number. It's a very good live version by William Bell with Texas, the guitar backing is especially noteworthy, but you have to hear the original with Judy Clay singing the female part, and the great bass introduction, and William Bell had an urgency forty years ago which is somewhat dispelled (but not entirely). Stax at its very best from 1968. Which as all Band fans know was a very good year for songs.

A song I mentioned a couple of months ago is my most-played this year (Operator was this month), and that's Judy Clay and Billy Vera with "Just Across the Line" (its title on the album), but on the single it's called "City Boy and A Country Girl (Just Across the Line)". I think that's 1970 or 1971.It would have been a natural for the "Country Got Soul" compilation series.


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Posted by:

Ar

Subject: Sebastian

HEY NO WAY SEBASTIAN ROBERTSON HAS BEEN POSTING ON THIS GUESTBOOK!? I CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED THIS! ROBBIE IS MY FAVORITE PERSON! WHY DID YOU GUYS PISS HIM OFF!


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Posted by:

Stuart

Pelham, here in the Midwest it is still May 11, but we are fading fast.


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Posted by:

Pelham

Location: Anniston, Alabama

Subject: Yellow Tavern, May 12, 1864

Major Gen (CSA) James Ewell Brown 'JEB' Stuart:

Feb 6, 1833- May 12, 1864.

"After they sang "Rock of Ages" Beauty passed away and joined his brother Pelham."


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, to let bygones be bygones, how about them Hawks?

Sebastian, thanks for everything.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Sebastian

You have proved yourself to be a real stand-up guy. Thank you very much for your input, and for being understanding. The Band's music makes me happy everyday, and for that I thank your father, and all of The Band members. Greatest band, indeed.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Playlist

Thanks so much, everyone! Very nice of you. thankfully, I have most of those songs, but I am on the search for a few of them(Peter-I checked your non-Band song on youtube, and I am intrigued!). Kevin-I have heard of the waterboy's, but had not heard any of their music-They sound great!

Steve-I will be on the lookout for the Leloup interview, Thanks for the tip.

Todd- I would be happy to have everyone's top ten favorite songs; Unfortunately, I have a 120gb Ipod that is almost full! I think I may need to get another one.

Bill M-Great song!

My favorite Band song(right now)is "in a station," and my favorite non-Band song would have to be "as I went out one morning," which is on my favorite Non-Band album "John Wesley Harding."


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Kristie's iPod

Kristie, the challenge of coming up with just one favorite Band song is an impossible task, but I’ll choose ‘Katie’s Been Gone’ for your iPod playlist. For a non-Band song, I’ll choose ‘I Never Loved A Man (The Way I Love You)’ by Aretha Franklin. Yikes! This exercise makes a top 10 list seem like a luxury.

Kevin J. Thanks for the tip and the kind words. I’ll try to check out Lonesome Dove. Sounds good.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: Sabastian

Thank you, what a pleasure.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "WoodstockStory.com".


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Posted by:

bob w.

"befiend0ing" (think Steve channeling Friend0)


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: and

I meant the 74 dylan tour. whoa - admittedly bad, bad post. But everyone knows what picture I'm talking about. And if you don't, you should!


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Posted by:

abby

oops. I know that should've been "to" Freind0. I just don't have my glasses on and my o finger went a little crazy. Forgive me!!


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Posted by:

abby

Sebastian - if you can still hear me, - let me just say that as a Band fan with a special place in my heart for dear old Rick I have to thank you for that great picture you put on the website - '76 tour - Rick with his arm around your dad on their way too or from the stage - kidding around. That's a great pic. That's how I like to remember them, and I'm sure that's probably a favorite picture for your dad as well. (I know that picture is in the book that came with the 5 cd set - but you can never see it too often.)


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Sebastian…..As others have said – very well put. Just about all the questions that anyone could have had were tabled and answered. I think that that is about as good an interaction as anyone could have hoped for. More than that, your presence here and the grace in which you dealt with the questions tells me a lot about how you were raised. Glad to know about the other pages you have highlighted (those shall be checked out regularly for updates) and tell your dad to do something about a bonus track for “Between Trains”!!!! ……All the best…..

Todd: Lonesome Dove is a great book and perhaps the finest mini-series ever made. Your latest entry is an example of why I always read everything you post.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Nice try, Steve.


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Posted by:

Steve

OK Pat, I'm assuming you never saw the mini series or have no idea about the incident I'm talking about though if you read the quote closely,here it is again," Ride with an outlaw, hang with an outlaw, it kind of explains itself. The quote in the movie refers to the fact that, Jake Spoon( think Steve), who's riding with a gang of outlaws ( think Friend0),hasn't committed any of the killings the outlaws( think Friend0) have, but Jake( think Steve) is guilty by association.

So Jake( think Steve),just riding with the outlaws( think Friend0), is in danger of being lynched as well. It's been awhile since I saw the movie(12 years or so, but I think Jake's( think Steve) sin was befiend0ing the bad guys. Pat, I hope that clears that up for you, if not I can try a little harder to make it a little clearer, though I'm not sure how at the moment. Always a pleasure doing business with you.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Sebastian

Thank you!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Beautifully put, Sebastian.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Sebastian. Nice post, and thanks for checking back in. Many of us here are not thick skinned enough to handle even the slightest criticism of any particular Band member who we might consider a favorite. So I can only imagine when that favorite Band member happens to be your Dad, the feeling is multiplied exponentially. Hell, sometimes we can crank up a good argument over something as innocuous as pizza (New Haven, CT has the best, just in case there’s any doubt). :-)
Kudos to you for sticking in there and not losing your cool. It’s not the easiest thing to do, but at the end of the day it’s the best choice.

Obviously we are all very passionate about the Band, and sometimes that enthusiasm can get out of control or go in a less than healthy direction in a conflict

I still maintain that we should strive to limit rudeness whether we have company or not. It’s easy to try to be on our best behavior when we know that someone personally close to the Band is joining in…..But we should probably assume that someone close is ALWAYS checking in and try to be civil and post in a way that we’d feel comfortable as if it was a face to face conversation. Easier said than done sometimes, and I’ve been guilty occasionally of “behind the keyboard/in the heat of the moment” bravery myself from time to time. . Usually I regret it the next day.

Even if no “insiders” are posting, we should at least try to be nice to each other. We’re all people. Of all the reasons given over the years for having The Last Waltz and getting off the road, wanting to spend more time with family is certainly an honorable reason. Sound like your parents raised you well. Thanks again for indulging us with some answers to our questions.

Kevin J., I’m not familiar with ‘Lonesome Dove’ but it sounds like a corker!


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Posted by:

Calvin

Put me firmly in the Richie Furay is among the handful of greatest voice in RocknRoll History Camp.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Kristie

Kristie....the above link for your trip/ipod.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Kinda confusing, Steve. Now you're riding with friendo, even though a few days ago you wrote, "Pat, I didn't defend what Jeff said..." just his right to say it. Of course the issue was what he said, but let's forget that for now. However, your concept of "riding" with someone doesn't exactly scream "I got your back, buddy." Seems more like, "What do you mean 'we', Kemosabe?"


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Thanks

I might be naive but I don't think Friend0 meant to cause any harm. It was a little surprising but everyone gets a little more courage when they're sitting behind their monitor and sometime this can come across differently than what we had hoped for. In all honesty this experiment hasn't really worked out for me. I understand that everyone has certain feelings about The Band and what may have happened between them and that's fine. However, can you imagine how it feels to have a total stranger defame and ridicule your father? It's the worst feeling! I realize that Robbie has two persona's, rock star guy and family guy. For me it's only the latter. When my dad left The Band and more specifically the road to spend more time with his family I see it as the coolest move in the history of the world. Although I am aware that others see it differently, and again that's fine. The bottom line is that I'm not thick skinned enough to take the bad comments with the good. And never in a million years did I foresee any attacks coming towards me personally. However you slice it my dad wrote some songs that were given life by the boys in The Band and for that I believe we will all be eternally grateful. There are two parts to the royalty side of songwriting. There is the actual composition which comprises of 50% and then there is the publishing side which makes up for the other 50%. It is FACT that on EVERY song the publishing side was split equally between the five members. As a reference point Lennon/McCartney did NOT do this. For those who feel my dad has wronged the other members in The Band I hope that these feelings don't come between you and the music. For our gift is simply that, the music. My father, mother and two sisters miss Rick and Richard dearly, and wish Garth and Levon the absolute best in their endeavors. I'll do my best to check in every once in a while and thank all of you for keeping the legacy of the greatest Band ever alive. Cheers, Sebastian


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Steve was also riding with them.....

And raising a posse just became a whole lot easier…………..thinking of Woodrow F. Call and Gus McCrae led to a Band connection….The Call. A favorite band of both Robbie Robertson and Garth Hudson…….also – whatever happened to another one of Robbie’s favorite bands ( and mine ) The Waterboys?


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin it's been so long since I saw the movie I wasn't actually aware of what scene you were referring to. With the lynch mob that's been circling FriendO for the last couple of days I was thinking of McCall's recourse to the rope with the noose on one end. Being the only one to ride with Friend0 ( though NB did catch up near the end of the trail)on this one, I was happy you didn't remember one of McCall's other codes of vigilante justice; Ride with an outlaw, hang with an outlaw. That's what brought the rope and not the branding iron to mind.


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Posted by:

abby

Actually voyueristic might have been a better word than odd. Though being voyeruistic is rather odd. Well, that's me too -- or I wouldn't be reading this gb otherwise, would I? (no offense to the handful of non-voyeurs in here)


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Posted by:

abby

Thanks, Joan. And MIKE - how cool is that? I'm impressed though I wouldn't have a thing to say to them w/out feeling somewhat odd. But that's me -- odd.


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Posted by:

David P.

sadavid: James Burton also played on an earlier Spectacle show that featured Elton John and Allen Toussaint. Like bassist Jerry Scheff and drummer Ron Tutt, Mr. Burton has worked with both the real Elvis and the other one -- Presley and Costello.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve: I believe the weapon in that scene was a branding iron……that will do. Just as the Coen brothers captured love beautifully in that great scene in Fargo (where the wife tells her husband that there actually is a use for a 3 cent stamp - for my money the greatest love scene in the history of American cinema), Larry McMurtry perfectly distinguishes between toughness and rudeness in that scene from Lonesome Dove.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: lists; razorbax

Kristie: Band song: "The Unfaithful Servant." Non: Emmylou Harris, "Sailing 'Round the Room" [My link].

Elvis Costello's guest for last week's "Spectacle" was one William Jefferson Clinton. The former First Hornman name-checked both Hawkins and Helm in reply to Mr. Costello's leading question about notable Arkansan musicians. The real highlight of the program was James Burton, particularly on a tuff rendition of "Mystery Train" that I thought was closer to _The Last Waltz_ than to Memphis.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, since you're trying to bring a little order here do you think we should start shooting or whip out McCall's other favorite weapon, the lynching rope?

As I remember that great series, McCall and McCrae were tough, completely fearless individuals who were not afraid to go one on one with anyone, they only tag teamed when the odds were severely stacked against them. One of my all time favorites. I read McMurtry's 4 followup books after watching the original TV series with Duval and Jones.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Jim Weider, Garth Hudson & Levon Helm perform together for a Japan broadcast May 13th.

From Jim Weider's site:

"Song to Soul"

TOKYO BROADCASTING SYSTEM -- Jim Weider will appear with Levon Helm and Garth Hudson in "Song to Soul" 60-minute weekly music documentary program on TBS' satellite channel in Japan on "THE BAND" The show will be aired on May 13th at 11 PM all over Japan, on satellite channel of TBS called BS-TBS. and rerun on the following week on May 20 at 11 PM.TBS is one of the largest and the most popular network in Japan. (http://www.tbs.co.jp/eng/

-- Taku Nishimae


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie/ Abby

Kristie, this is hard because it changes frequently, but Band song "It Makes No Difference" (it gives me a chance to listen to Rick). Non Band depends on what's on now. For the past Week or so, I've been listening to Nick Lowe. I can't get "Indian Queens" out of my head.

Abby, The IP thing is easy. Look above the "posted by" line. What shows after "From" is your IP. Then is you wish, you can go to an "IP lookup" site, and it will show where the IP is from. Mine probably shows Metro NYC area on Verizon.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: I like your picture of the guys moving from the bar to the PGA tour. Starting in the bar, I'm sure that our tipsy chums really do like the song and would be happy to hear it, but I suspect it has more to with them wanting to have some say in what happens in their world (like, it may even get the group onstage to change their set list - fuckin' A!). Stage 2, they've sobered up enough to realise that, no, they really can't change things all that much and that the best they can hope for is to be onside with the big guy.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Play That Funky Music.......

Todd: Reading your post made me think of Woodrow F. Call’s line in Lonesome Dove of “I won’t tolerate rudeness in a man”…….being tough is almost always fine but being rude never is. No blurred lines…it should always be called and was…….

Peter: You’re right……the call from the corner was usually “Take a load off Fanny or Annie” and not “The Weight”……I asked a bartender about this one day in Los Angeles….he laughed and said “no problem those guys all eventually move on and end up on the PGA tour”….I looked a little baffled and he added “ you know, the guys who are at every tournament and tell ‘You’re the Man’ or ‘In the Hole Tiger’ after every shot”

bob w: All the best on a very special day……and while the day is certainly all about your son and his wife….at some point in the evening, I do hope that you convince the DJ to play just one Jeff Beck cut…..It will clear out the young ones from the dance floor…..leave most of the mother’s shaking their heads….but have at least one dad with a big smile on his face! 5-7 minutes later it’ll be back to techno or hip hop…….I find beer and wine helps with that! Have fun…


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: a news release for Rhinoceros fans - mentions Dylan and Lou too ...

The Acoustic Harvest Folk Club proudly presents: ALAN GERBER www.alangerber.org

WHEN: Sat. May 23/09, 8pm, $18@the Door, doors open 7:30pm WHERE: St. Nicholas Anglican Church 1512 Kingston Rd. (Kingston Rd. at Manderley Drive- 1 block east of Kingston Rd & Warden Ave. in east end Toronto)

Strap on your boogie-woogie shoes, hold on and get ready ... Alan Gerber has arrived! This eccentric entertainer is wowing audiences internationally. His amalgamation of boogie-woogie, stunning vocal interpretations and fine musicianship make Gerber an artist of the highest order. His show is exhilarating and captivates audiences of all demographics placing him in high demand to festivals, clubs and theaters nationally, He has participated in major events such as: The Montreal Jazz Festival, Ottawa Blues Festival, Fort Lauderdale Blues Festival, Toronto Harbourfront Blues, Carcassonne Music Festival & many more.

When Alan returned to Chicago to begin work for the "Let Us Entertain You" Network, he developed a one-man show to fulfill his need to create his own brand of music -- blues, meets gospel, meets boogie-woogie. Gerber's incredible energy and outrageous stage antics began to blossom and promptly, he established a faithful following.

In 1994, he produced and released "Chicken Walk". He followed that up with "Fools That Try" in 1997 and "The Boogie Man" in 1999. When demand for a live CD began to surface, Alan took the studio on the road and produced "Alan Gerber Live" in 2002. This CD captured his live performance energy and audiences and buyers were quick to stand up and take notice. "Alan Gerber Live" showcased Gerber in all areas of his art. He produced the recording, wrote and performed the songs, and played all instruments on this CD. In 2005 he released the critically acclaimed "Blue Tube". A quote from Dan Behrman, producer/host of "Espace Musique", Radio Canada blues show: ³He literally explodes from the very start with all the musical colors that Blues-Funk has in its paint box.... Alan Gerber is a sensitive & intelligent lyricist whose positive message is ideally driven home by the right words he uses"

Alan's professional career began when he entered a music program at Roosevelt University in 1965. Producer Paul Rothchild (The Doors, Paul Butterfield, Janis Joplin...) discovered Alan's talent and soon he was a singer, songwriter and keyboardist for a group to become known as Rhinoceros. The release of two albums on the Elektra label brought Rhinoceros to tour North America with such names as Janis Joplin, BB King, Jefferson Airplane, Traffic, Jimi Hendrix, Steppenwolf, John Lee Hooker, Jeff Beck and others.

Alan left Rhinoceros and released his first solo effort in 1971 with Shelter Records and the worldwide distribution of this recording earned him a tour with Leon Russell. In 1974 the release of the single "Tied On" (produced by André Perry) went to number one on Québec radio and Alan toured the province in the wake of its success. Gerber placed two songs on the soundtrack of Bob Dylan's movie "Renaldo and Clara", performed at Bob Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue and played with Lou Reed in the United States.

Alan has recently been touring Canada, the United States & Europe. He is also working on a new CD that should be released in the spring of 2009.

A songwriter, vocalist, musician, producer, and comic Alan Gerber is quite the enigma...... certainly not to be missed.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kristie, I think the "C'est La Vie" interview with Jean Le Loup is not this morning at 11 as I said earlier, but it is today or early this week sometime. If your interested check C'est La Vie's schedule at their site. Happy hunting.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Charlie may have already posted about this, but the in the Bob Dylan ariticle in Rolling Stone, I loved the part where he visits where Neil Young used to live and said to himself, "this is where he stood, that's the window he looked out of . . ." etc. Wow, Bob Dylan is a stalker . . . how cool is that?

JF


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Hmm. Maybe I should've said vocalist or something else that extra points for conveying passion / emotion / umph. Richie Furay's a truly fine chorister for sure, but I have to say that when I listen to him it's because I'm waiting for a Springfield album to get to the next song. But Robbie Robertson I'll play on purpose (though never "Storyville" and almost never the first album), even if I know he's just doing his best to sound like Richard Manuel. But hey, that's just me.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Lars, No, I'd just have to say Pat B cut through all the bullshit . . .

Regarding our trip to Atlanta: we missed our flight due to traffic accidents and traffic volume in metro DC on the way to the airport. The weekend went downhill from there. We did get the kid graduated, but after the dinner party with RJ's girlfriend's family, we only had the energy to walk down the street from our hotel to a bar and drink heavily. Sorry we didn't make it out to Duluth, David . . . maybe next time.

Jan F.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: I heartily disagree with you -- Richie Furay, still to this day, is a great singer. For my money, he's much better than Stephen Stills and Neil Young. As a singer, I wouldn't include Robbie in any comparison with him.

Stephen Bruton was one of the many real-life musicians who appeared in "The Life and Hard Times of Guy Terrifico", along with Levon, Ronnie Hawkins, Colin Linden and Mr. Bruton's longtime friend Kris Kristofferson.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Kristie, the choices change on a regular rotation. Today's choices are "Chest Fever" - The Band and "Rainy Night In Georgia" - Brook Benton. By lunchtime? Anybody's guess at this point.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I just scrolled all the way back to a post from a guy who said that 1) he has trouble typing because of nerve damage in both hands, and 2) what he's typing about is no big deal. But the post is seven paragraphs long. Even though some are short, throw the guy a bone for enduring all that pain on our behalf.

On another matter altogether, it occurred to me that one of the similarities between Robbie Robertson and Richie Furay is that they were both the fourth-best singer in a five-man group.

Kristie: The other song's easy - "Half-Closed Eyes" by Kensington Market, which I know you already have. The Band one's more of a mood thing, but let's say "Rockin' Chair" for now.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: R.I.P. Stephen Bruton

The great Texas musician Stephen Bruton passed away Saturday following a battle with throat cancer. He was a multi-talented artist -- guitarist, singer/songwriter, producer and actor (his film credits include "Heaven's Gate).


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again)

Subject: No Milk Today / Grammar / Doug Sahm

Herman's Hermits fans - see below

I was in McDonalds in Salinas California USA. I ordered "milk" with coffee. Nobody understood because the personal was all Spanish. I said "MOOOOOHHH" and touched the breast of my wife. The milk was served all-right! - I was in Gasthaus in Switzerland. I ordered "sahne" with coffee. Nobody understood because the personal was all French/Italian. I said "MOOOOOHHH" and touched the breast of my wife. They called the doorman. That's enough about grammar for me, thank you very much.

Herman's Hermits is playing on a boat which is cruising between Finland and Sweden. It is the same boat as in DOUG SAHM's song 'Scandinavian Way':

"Meet me in Stockholm babe, we'll mess around/ Take the real slow boat to Helsinki town..."


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods of NY

Subject: Kristie's two songs

If I were to pick two songs based on Kristie's request, I'd take the old standard "The Weight" and my second song would be the Levon Helm/ John Martyn rendition of "Rock Salt & Nails."

I guess I was the one who talked Ezra into posting in here a couple of years ago. It didn't go well for some reason. He told me he prefers the Steely Dan GB. His step-father is Donald Fagen.

Sredni says to send his best to all of the Band community. He recently did some studio work, playing harp for a fellow named Ed Shaw. "Tell them I'm not dead yet," he said.

For anybody in the Pittsfield, MA area: Sarah Burrill, a Cape Cod musician who I first saw when my family was on vacation in Eastham, MA; is playing this coming Sat (May 16) at the Micro Theatre in Pittsfield, at 7:30 PM. She plays her own music, a kind of "light R&R." An excellent singer and guitar player.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: The GB - thanks Brien Sz

Thanks for your sentiments on The GB Brien. (...but what happened to Minolta cameras, Nikon and Sony are making copies of them now when the originals are gone!)


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: kIrstie

Band: Rockin' chair. Non-band: Okie from Muskogee, Merle Haggard.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Sebastian Robertson.

That is Sebastian posting here on the GB. We've been "virtual" friends for 1-2 mths now thanks to "facebook" & "Myspace" & he asked me last wk what I would recommend to get more visibility for his three recent sites: Robbie's "facebook" & "Myspace" pgs & "The Band" "facebook" pg. Thus far, he has been nothing but responsive & upstanding.

My wife & I have become "facebook" friends w/ he & Delphine aside from the "Robbie" & "The Band" pgs & they have been very welcoming. Sebastian operates his own childrens music production firm called "Sound It Out Productions" & has produced other up & coming adult bands, Delphine works for Tom Hanks' music production firm "Playtone" & Dominique is a psychologist in CA. Not sure of Alexandra's occupation. Sebastian has his own beautiful family. I believe he had a wedding to attend this wkd, which is one reason for his "GB" absence, plus like many of us, has other family & professional obligations. Aside from the "Robbie" connection, he's your everyday guy w/ similar daily obstacles that the rest of us contend. For us "The Band" fans, he brings another angle to the picture.

Kim & I will always be extremely grateful to the inviting nature of Levon, Garth, Maud & their families & associates (along w/ Rick's & Richard's), but Sebastian's recent presence has brought a new charge. Hopefully, we all have nothing but things to gain from it.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Band - Daniel and the Sacred Heart Non-Band: Hey Bartender, Dave Matthews, a Live track of it. Or Mark Germino and the Sluggers - The Rat and the Snake.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Kristie, Jean Le Loup

CBC radio's, C'est La Vie, has a half hour interview with, Jean Le Loup, this morning at 11:30 in your time zone.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Kristie

If the "Band" song isn't strictly defined I'd go with Rick's New Mexico. My non Band song features Garth so I it's also Band spiced, Old Hotel by BARK.


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: For Kristie

Kristie Band: 'When I awake'

Non Band: Ollabelle: 'Blue Northern Lights' from Riverside Battle Songs

(or if that's too Band-related then try and find 'Bridal Train' by The Waifs...)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Kristie 1) King Harvest 2) Private Number - Judy Clay & William Bell as I've been listening to a lot of classic soul this year.

Most played on my iPod the last four weeks: Operator by Jorma Kaukonen.


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Posted by:

Tracy

For our latest guestbook member, Sebastian. Since I wasn't around for the duration of the day earlier, I'll say it now. Happy Mother's Day to Dominique, Alexandra, and Dawn. This greeting extends to the numerous wonderful moms in the community.


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Posted by:

Joe

On May the 10th Richmond had fell.........


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: OK

I figured something obvious that I missed due to reading the darn gb entries too quickly. The address makes perfect sense. I thought of cking the address(IP, is that what it's called?) but really didn't know how to find his IP address on his website. And that's probably not hard to do either. Please just don't tell me it's what you type in to get to his website....that would just be too pathetic of me. Thanks, Joan.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Request

I have a fun request for you all. I am going to make a GB Playlist for my Ipod, so I would like to know everyone's favorite Band song, as well as one Non-Band song. I will do my best to find them all, so if you want to throw a really obscure one at me, I will do my best to comply!


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Abby

Yes, I believe it is/was Sebastian. Among other things, The IP address matches.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy Mother's Day!


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Yes

That was Sebastian.


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Posted by:

Deb

Abby, yes, it was Sebastian Robertson. Without going into detail as to why, I'm sure of it. You don't have to believe me, but that was him.


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Posted by:

abby

Web: My link

Subject: questioning on mother's day

Since it's mother's day, I feel the right to ask this question that's been on the tip of my tongue all week - how does anyone know that was Robbie's son? Did he say something that unquestionably proved who he was? If not, does this place no longer have the occasional weirdo with high and mighty claims who is actually just some strange woman in kentucky claiming to have mothered Garth's love child? Not that I don't WANT to believe that Sebastian was who he says he was. I just need reassuring gb proof...... Have we just become complacent? Or did I miss something? It used to be "Yeah, right. You're robbie's son! Sure you are...." And if it WAS really Robbie's son let me say "Sebastian, I agree with you 100% about this paragraph. I just can't get it right either.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: !

As much as I find the whole situation disheartening-I really was keen on having Sebastian's input-let's just keep the personal attacks out of it. Do not rekindle any old feuds!

As Levon said:"Music is the best medicine. If you pour some music on whatever is wrong, it'll sure help out."


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Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Union, ME

Great to see a new album coming from Levon. New Bob Dylan, new Steve Earle. Life goes on and things are good. As for Tull, you described pretty well your own contributions to this sight over the years. Sabbatical's are paid, your not. Grow up and let it go, this place was never about you.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Some Say The Glass Is Half-Full....

and some say the glass is half-empty. Whereas some non-convergent-thinking nutjob would say "hey, that glass is twice as big as it needs to be". Yes Sebastian did say that Jeff's commenting on his use of quotation marks was a "bit odd and slightly in bad taste", but kindly note the use of "bit" and "slightly". After making this observation, notice too that he nonetheless went on to answer all of Friend0's musical questions. Notice that he also thanked Jeff for correcting his grammar. Notice that his principal concern in his post was to tie up loose ends, ie. questions, and not leave anyone hanging. Notice that he also said that he "won't be back to the GB FOR A WHILE" (my caps), which means that after a while he WILL be back. But most importantly, notice how often I've used the word "notice".

Others can do what they want for whatever reason they want, but I'm proceeding on the assumption that Sebastian is someone whose words I can take at face-value, and hence I won't presume to read into them (ie. "Jeff has offended Sebastian so he may not be coming back, etc.). I suspect Sebastian has a very busy life that was probably calling him elsewhere, so he just popped in to inform us he'd be away for a stretch and in doing so responded to the most recent of posts, including Freindo's. That's certainly how that post read to me when I went back and read it again. NB


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Posted by:

Kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Nuevo Laredo-Sir Douglas Quintet

I guess this answers my question about whether or not Levon sang harmony.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Quiz, Peter

You're right, Peter, second time, watching Bob and our guys at the Albert Hall. 44 years! I'm away to see Michael Marra play an acoustic set.


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Jeff Beck

Thanks for the link, Bob W. Mmm, Tal Wilkenfeld :-P ... amazing to watch, great bass player.


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Posted by:

Steve

Hey, Landy, you should know I had my, " you summed it up well" typed before you but I was editing my post to make sure I offended no one and was somewhat more subtle than I usually am.


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Posted by:

Steve

Well summed up, Brien.

I have to say that the only moment that made me shudder was Lars dropping the BIG ONE right off the bat. I thought it was great. Lars, having established himself as a gentleman was able to pull it off. I would have had to shut the computer off immediately if Jeff had brought up the subject, expecting the screen to explode within seconds.

I guess, Lars, has proven the adage of the old Clairol commercial that, indeed, "Gentleman do prefer bombs".

Peter, please point at my slip into subtlety. No one here or anywhere else has ever called me subtle before and I'm too thick to have noticed it myself. I'm not saying that it's impossible but I'll never find it on my own.

Pat, I didn't defend what Jeff said, even halfheartedly, only his right to post what he wants to, then let the chips fall where they may. To be fair you could have also pointed out that there were 3 reactions to Jeff's post. Those who attacked him, those(me) who defended his right to make the post and those who chose not to comment one way or the other on the subject.

I think the comments Todd made about Ezzra and his reception here is telling. I remember it pretty much as Todd told it. For people who put me in " Levon's Camp", I think you should note that I didn't intercede then either and I think Ezzra did get a rough ride. Makes you wonder where the defenders of children rights were then.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Subject: Happy Mother's Day!

I think Brien sums it up perfectly.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: The GB

Having been part of this community for a long time (has to be 11 or 12 years now).., I have to say..., this GB moved well beyond a Band site a long time ago. The Band may be the common denominater that binds us here, but the reason we come, comment, contribute, complain, argue, praise, ignore, compliment is because this place has become part of our daily experience in life.., it's our personal cafe. It can be petty and it can be polite, endearing and frightful all at the same time. When new posters come and especially ones who decide they want to make strong presence, they usually get a pretty hard time..., a hazing if you will. But this happens out of folks protecting this ground.., this special little place of 0's and 1's that exists in the virtual/viral world. Some people can handle it and others choose not to have this kind of banter a part of their lives.

It can be a rough place but if you've ever gone back into the deep archives of this place, you can almost trace where a one time truer of spirit guestbook, turned into a GB. People have come and gone. I've left from time to time - for reasons similar to J-Tull's (who I wish would stick around and pop in more often despite our at times apparent and very real pettiness on what really are petty matters) But that is this place..., no matter what many of us may really want this place to be, what you read is what it is. Often times it's music, many other times it is not.

I do have to say the biggest and most successful change that has happened here is that we tend to keep political talk to a respectful tone. When Jan put out out the "no-politics edict" back when he re-opened this place it has been very well respected, so that when the topics do come up - for the most part- they've been handled well.., this also includes the religious stuff that rears up as well.

AS for the leading by example.., that's hard enough to do and be successful at in real life for others to follow your lead.., in a virtual world it is close to impossible. With that said, David P. may be the closest example of someone who tries to never get entangled in all the little messes that can occur and I tip my hat to him for that for always trying his hardest to "keeping it to the music". I, on the other hand, am not as musically inclined and tend to participate far more in the off topics.., but hey, again, that is part of what is special about this wonderful whacky little cafe that floats in the universe of the net.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

In a Jeff Beck state of mind here this morning. This band is amazing. Vinnie Colaiuta's drumming is top shelf. The DVD from the run at Ronnie Scott's "Performing This Week: Live at Ronnie Scott's" is brilliant. Highly recommended.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: I'M WRONG AGAIN

I counted 44 years ago as 1965, but it's 1966 (66, 67, 68, 69 rather than 9-4 = 5), so yes, they were at the Royal Albert hall, but watching not performing. The NME Concert was 23 April 1965 and had The Beatles, The rolling Stones & The animals.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: and thanks Dunc.

;-D


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'm sure Bob W is correct on the venue, and I'll add that the reason for being there was the NME (New Musical Express) Poll Winners Concert (or was it the Melody Maker Poll Winners Concert)? The evening has been bootlegged.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: thanks bob

:-D


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Posted by:

bob w.

Dunc, it would be an honor. Thanks.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Although I really liked dlew's answer.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bob W, Dlew

Bob W: If you ever make it here that's a bottle of wine from the Veneto I owe you. Correct.

Dlew:For a novelty answer I'll drink an extra glass tonight.

Working on a Sunday:Three hours work done. Two to go.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Dunc's ?

Dunc, Royal Albert Hall?


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: It Spite Of Ourselves

The reference to the John Prine song as well as it being Mother's Day and all calls to mind one of my favourite Prine lines (and there are so many): "We'll have nothing but big old hearts dancing in our eyes".


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Lars

Let's set the record straight. I did NOT become a father this year; my youngest is twenty one. The young lady who almost gave birth in my porch was a patient at my wife's clinic. Hopefully there will be grandkids some day but I don't care if I ever change another diaper.



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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Dunc - quiz answer

Waiting for Richmond to Fall? ;)


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Quiz with prize

Here is a quiz question with a prize. The prize is a beautiful bottle of Ripasso Red wine from Verona, which I'll drink for you, because I can't pass it on.

Where were The Beatles, Donovan, Paul Jones of Manfred Mann and Eric Burdon 44 years ago yesterday evening, May 9th?


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Pat B, Todd, Simon

As a Johnny come lately to the GB, I was surprised when the feud arose in my time for the first time. I also thought this is not football where you support somebody. I like ALL the Band. I remember feeling that Robbie received a rougher time. Also Jan is friends with Levon and Garth? I remember in 'What's New' when Robbie was referred to as 'Robertson' and cringing slightly. In fact it reminded me of 'This Wheel's On Fire'.

However, what I worked out is that there is nothing I can do about it. I can't challenge a person face to face, which I am very capable of doing, I can't go to a union etc. There is also a danger in that when you challenge, you look as bad as the person you challenge. The one post I regret is when I stayed up watching two hours of doubtful television to see Robbie and Garth at some ceremony. Their appearance was cut from the British broadcast and I regret my subsequent angry post, where Steve (Thanks for naming the bull after me)thought I had been on the whisky. My post looked as if I had been criticising Americans. Also this is my hobby, not my job. I'm meant to come here to learn, to be entertained and amused.

The other thing is that I've only been met by kindness, including Jeff's kindness, when I ask questions, where people give up time to explain things to me a non musician, but my questions are to do with the music, the concerts. I appreciate Jan's work and the contributors on the website. People are not going to learn from me about the Band. I'm a taker rather than a giver. It's only lately I've become a musical anorak.

But I love the Band.

Pat B:If you thought I had been half hearted. I SUPPORT JERSEY GIRL, CLAIRE, JOAN, DEB, KRISTIE AND ABBY WHOLEHEARTEDLY. Good manners cost nothing. And we have lost, as you say, a valuable resource.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I was busy yesterday, having Mario Galaxy on a Wii being explained to me by a five year old. The ray surfing is cool, and I can’t believe I got this far in life ignoring games consoles. But I do need the five year old (and her three year old brother)’s assistance to find the start of the ray surfing run. This is why I didn’t wade in, though ignoring the town bore and troublemaker was probably a good idea anyway.

Deliberate shit-stirring is deliberate shit-stirring. Hands up anyone who thinks Jeff/ FriendO was NOT shit-stirring? I object to being brought into it. We never nit-picked on grammar on Little Pink. We did object to incomprehensible garbage with ten typos at least in a sentence from FriendO.

Steve was also mildly shit-stirring in a more subtle way, however, I often enjoy Steve’s asides on world affairs, farming and life in general.

No excuses about FriendO being misread. Far more, no excuses about “Peter V would object in future” which was total bollocks. Rude is rude. Nasty is nasty. If Jeff seriously thinks he was being “helpful and informative” then self-awareness is totally missing.


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Posted by:

Simon

Subject: Metapostal

Looks to me like Jeff knew exactly what might happen when he submitted that post but he went ahead and did it anyway. Now it looks like he's playing the 'nobody understands me' card. Who knows, he may well be right about that. I've seen the word 'bully' used and to be honest there would've been a time when I'd have said Nah, that's not Jeff, but there have been too many instances in recent years where it looks exactly like bullying. A kind of totally disproportionate response to minor disagreements coupled with an apparent insistence on 'dragging it out' even when posters - often female - have made it known that they're very uncomfortable about what they're on the receiving end of. It's a pity because I genuinely used to find his contributions and obvious enthusiasm for music refreshing, compelling and entertaining but I can't help wondering what happened along the way.

Just like to say it's nice to see Deb, Claire and Jersey Girl posting after being away for a while but I can understand where Deb is coming from when she says sometimes you get a moment when you realize it might be a good idea to step away from cyberspace for a while. The totally avoidable kerfuffle of the last few days just confirms that no matter how well-intentioned the vast majority might be you're always going to have someone who wants to throw a spanner in the works. And funnily enough, the very tiny belligerent minority never feel the need to offer an apology or even acknowledge they may have overstepped the mark.

BTW the new Allen Toussaint album is sounding rather nice.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: JTull - nice to see you, even under these circumstances...

Just saying, is all.


Entered at Sun May 10 06:45:10 CEST 2009 from 69.182.53.183.adsl.snet.net (69.182.53.183)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Kid's Songs

I almost forgot this piece of important business!
Joan, my kids used to enjoy singing along in the car to 'Get Up Jake'... the outtake version on the Brown album 2000 remaster.


Entered at Sun May 10 06:36:17 CEST 2009 from 69.182.53.183.adsl.snet.net (69.182.53.183)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: GB Drama

The irony of all this is that Jeff's post was probably meant to be a shot at Peter rather than at Sebastian. Of course there's no way that Sebastian would have known that, not being tuned into the Peter/Jeff dynamic and the many years of posting history between them.

Personally I don't think that rudeness is acceptable towards any poster, whether you happen to be a fan, inner circle, or family member.

There is precedence for some of this and it’s not even hypothetical. A while back Ezra joined in on some GB discussions....It may have been back in the Little Pink GB days. I don't recall the specific details anymore, but a few anonymous posters were quite less than civil towards him. There was not an outpouring of support extended towards Ezra when he was treated with less than perfect manners in this forum. He took his lumps and moved on. The rules of the house should apply towards all of us.

During the U.S. Democratic Primary last year, I made the mistake of engaging in political debate. I was trying to have an issues, policy, and qualifications based discussion on the two leading candidates at that time. A new poster, egged on by a GB regular, essentially implied that I was a racist for even questioning one of the candidate’s qualifications. Nothing could have been farther from the truth. The specific details escape me now, but I think someone called me a "white boy". Very nice eh? Not many people rose to my defense at the time, in spite of many years relatively polite posting on my part. Peter V, Pat B, Bob W. and a few others (my apologies if I left someone out), publicly spoke out in my support and tried to provide some balance to the situation, but I remember feeling very disappointed that my intentions were being twisted to fit someone's agenda. I felt used, but ultimately I should have recognized what was going on and ignored it. I took the bait.

It was nice to have Sebastian posting here and being very generous with answering questions. And I hope that he returns, he seems like a cool dude. The thing that makes an Internet community great is when all participants feel free to share in discussion. I’m not perfect, and I’m sure that I have some room for improvement. But rather than simply admonishing Jeff, wouldn't it be better to lead by example?

Joe J. that was a very nice sentiment that you expressed about your wife. The two of you are very lucky to have each other. Happy Mother’s Day everyone!


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Woods of NY

Subject: "In spite of ourselves"- John Prine

PAT- As usual, you cut through all of the baloney (Jan F.- that's a pretty good way of putting it, isn't it?). Nevertheless, what's done is done and maybe we should just put it all behind us. I don't think blaming Jeff is very productive at this point. This GB has survived a lot of turmoil over the years. Perhaps it's time to get back to the music.

For some reason, it made me feel good to hear Sebastian say that "Acadian Driftwood" was among "Rob's" favorites. I've always thought that was a very beautiful song. Learning how the songs were composed (guitar or piano) was interesting. Sebastian's visit was a good stroke of fortune for anybody who cares about The Band.

Today I put a white rose om my mother's gravestone. I guess it's natural to miss her, but it's the way of the world. My wife is getting some herbs for her garden (I buy them for my girls to give to her because they always forget). And I'll take Kris out to dinner on an evening when the restaurants aren't so busy. Happy Mother's Day to every mom out there, including Joe J.'s wife who made him a father this spring. You sound pretty content, Joe. But how are you at changing diapers? Maybe you mentioned it and I forgot, but did she give you a son or a daughter? I'd better get some sleep, I've got a lot of annuals to put in our gardens tomorrow. Again, Happy Mother's Day.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: What a bunch of crap.

I think I'll return to my several month sabatical of not even lurking on this GB. My apologies to the several of you who actually contribute to positive discourse out here, this is not aimed at you. Unfortunately for the most part the conversations and pettiness on here is akin to cigarette smoking: when you are hooked you cannot live without it and cannot even take a shit with out lighting up (or checking the GB) but once you quit cold turkey your lungs clear and you find more positive and healthy things to do with your time. Nothing against The Band. Nothing against Jan. But if this GB were truly representative of The Band's musical contributions, then a neutral observer could only walk away with the idea that one of the greatest rock and roll bands of all time were a negative, divisive influence on our culture.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Pat B \ Joe J

Pat; I think you got it right.

Joe J; What a lovely thing to say about your Wife. She's lucky to have you too.

Happy Mother's Day!


Entered at Sun May 10 04:01:40 CEST 2009 from blk-222-220-73.eastlink.ca (24.222.220.73)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: southside

Subject: checkin in

Tryin to figure out the best version of 'Auld Triangle', Dylan and the Band or the Pogues? Need another glass of grog perhaps.

Disappointed but not surprised by behaviour of some GB regulars this week. Good to see a few of our ladies back though. Are you still out there Dee?

Got my copy of 'Together Through Life' this week, not to mention (in my attempt to plumb the bottom of Bob's catalogue) 'Under The Red Sky'. Actually I enjoy both of them. Mr. D. seems to be enjoying himself on both recordings without getting too 'profound' on either. A little of the 'Planet Waves' vibe on each. This accordion thing could get old pretty quick though. Small doses are recommended.

Happy Mother's Day all. I'm taking Mrs. J. to the city tomorrow. She seems to feel she needs a new dress as she has to 'give the bride away' in a ceremony next weekend. I tell her if she looke too good, I can't be responsible for my actions. She's just fine wine. I love that lady and can't believe I've been lucky enough to spend all this time with her.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Claire, I'm afraid you got your hypothetical wrong. What you should have inquired is this. What if Amy Helm took it upon herself to give her dad a more up to date internet presence, and in that process she showed up here? Then she volunteered to pass questions on that people here had about her father right to her father and mother. And it went well for awhile. But one poster who acted all friendly and wanted to know what Levon ate and whether he liked Poco all of a sudden wrote a long post telling her she used bad grammar and poor punctuation and blamed it on the poster's intention to save her from the grammar police. The poster himself admits that the post could be regarded as incendiary. Let's disregard the irony that the poster is engaging in the same behavior the poster finds so foul and concentrate on the results. Amy replies that the poster is "odd and slightly in bad taste," then she says "so long,everybody" depriving everyone here of a most valuable resource. The poster describes the exchange as "deep" and blames Amy's departure on "something else" getting in Amy's head. While most everyone moans at the turn of events, only one other poster rises half-heartedly to the original poster's defense. I think that would be a more accurate description of the situation and a harder hypothetical to answer. In fact, impossible.


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Posted by:

abby

I couldn't figure out what it was, just that SOMETHING drew me back here. Now I know.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kudos to your grandma. When you live on a farm you just have to take things into your own hands quite often. It's amazing the things you find yourself doing and that your capable of doing them. I know you'll enjoy Montreal.

Dunc, I've been meaning to tell you I bought a 4 year old Black, Aberdeen Angus bull in December. He came with some fancy name trumpeting his bloodlines but I call him Dunc. Hope you don't mind.

I should warn you, he's in the same pasture as one of our Red Angus cows, Abby, and she'll be coming into heat anytime now. Possibly a GB first.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Claire, believe me, I woud never expect you or other people who consistently hold similar opinions to yours to understand any of this or believe anything I write.

Joan, I'm amazed that you realized that all along I really have wanted to be Robbie's son.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Steve

That is indeed ironic-and an amazing story! Wow. My grandmother also had a fire on her farm(in her house though), and it being isolated it took awhile for the firemen to get there.....so my grandmother stuck a hose through the window and just kept spraying. Later on the firemen told her she probably saved the fire from spreading more. She got a few cuts from the windows exploding though.

And you know what? I have never been east of Alberta! I will be heading to Montreal in the fall though, before I head to SA.


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Posted by:

Steve

Chin up Dunc. Dunc, I believe you, I've been reading your posts here for many years and have never seen you lash out at anyone til you gave Gene a good thrashing with your cudgel. I'm assuming that was somehow related to the Sebastian incident. By the way, I read Gene's post the way you did and still do. Hope you're still getting up to your elbows in compost from time to time. Enjoyed your Dylan review, especially the harmonica comment .


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Posted by:

Steve

Fair enough Claire, but child is somehow a strange term to use for someone who must be close to if not 40 years old. Son or daughter sounds more appropriate. Accepting child as the term of reference would probably lead to someone jumping in accusing Jeff of child abuse.

Kristie, for some reason I thought you spent time in a tower but now that you mention it I remember your mentioning the tea house and some of the customers last summer.

I've never been west of Toronto in Canada, but have fought a forest fire once. I was highly motivated since it was burning a forest just a half mile from our farm and heading towards it.

My neighbor and I spotted it and called the Quebec fire service. First to arrive were two guys in a pickup with portable pumps and hoses. We loaded them onto my neighbor's skidder and took them to a creek near the fire.

Then a water bomber showed up and that's when the guys on the ground realized they hadn't charged the batteries in their radio and couldn't talk to the pilot.

Slowly other locals started arriving and we started trying to control the fire with hoses. Another fire crew showed up with working radios and the plane started dropping water.

His first pass was so high the water was just a mist by the time it reached the ground. Each successive run was lower and more accurate and took less time to refill the plane.

We later learned it was his first fire.

It was the dirtiest job I've ever done and I do lots of dirty jobs.

The fire burned about 70 acres but we got it out and then had to keep going back to look for hot spots for a couple of days.

The irony in your question( I think this qualifies as irony) is that the plane was scooping water at the local reservoir for a neighbouring town. The reservoir is called Lake Louise.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Steve

I felt embarrassed and disappointed.


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Posted by:

Claire

Steve, my reaction would be the same as it was at the rudeness shown Sebastian. I would be embarrassed and resentful if the majority of us were deprived of a rare opportunity to interact with the child of a member of The Band because of the actions of one mean-spirited bully.

Jeff, keep it up. You might convince even yourself.


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Posted by:

Friend0

BTW though Claire, Steve is right. Ever since punctuation and spelling have become issues, I have pointed out errors to many people. Including Peter ( relatively recently, in a subject line) and Calvin. So, in the literal sense, as Steve pointed out, I was treating Sebastian like one of the guys.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Steve/GB

I am not sure of the story you mentioned. I do not work at a fire tower, I do, however, live on a mountain that has one. But it has not been in use for about fifty years or so. A really cool spot to read a book. I do have plenty of friends that fight forest fires in the summer, and not only is it one fo the most physically demanding jobs ever, it is also one of the most dangerous. It is something I may look into in the future, but for now I am content just working in the backcountry, managing the teahouse. It is a very peaceful place. Have you ever spent time in the Lake Louise area?

Three more weeks, and then I am back in the mountains, and then in South America for a few months...I hope everything is peaceful when I get back(or before I leave, actually).

Sebastian is still over on Facebook, for anyone who wants to ask a question or has something to share in a respectful manner. He has put in a lot of work over there promoting The Band and their music. All posts are filtered, however, so anything rude will be deleted.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Claire, rude would have been pointing out the misuse of quotes and then typing, " I would think your dad could afford better schools, tutors if necessary" I wasn't rude. I sent up a smoke signal. Literally however, I was helpful, informative, and I even proposed that it could have been a matter of adjustment to a format. Sebastian did say that somehow his creating paragraphs caused the quotation marks to appear. I don't know how, but that is what he said.

Anyway, someone decided to turn the wagon train back on the trail, head back to civilization..

Joan, I hope I didn't spoil the marshmallows.

Far as Amy Helm goes, if she was posting, and some one was rude to her, I'd just watch and see what happens.


Entered at Sat May 9 19:41:49 CEST 2009 from 21cust187.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.187)

Posted by:

Steve

Claire I guess it would be the same as if anyone else was treated rudely, which happens from time to time, I'd probably mind my own business and let her speak for herself. It might depend on what was said of course. I tried to explain the quotation mark thing to Sebastian since Jeff has pointed out my inappropriate use of them just recently and didn't want him to think he was being singled out for special treatment. Otherwise I'd stay out of it. Not my business. She's a big girl, got a tough as nails father and probably can handle her own affairs.

Do you mind my asking what you would do?


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Starla/Jeff

Starla: I know some of Levon's folks come here sometimes, but if you really want to get to him directly, go to his website Levonhelm.com.

Jeff, I've held my tongue till now,but I agree with Deb, Claire, Jersey Girl and the others. I cringed when I read your post to Sebastian. It felt like you took a fire hose to a nice warm campfire. I could see the fire go out. I'm not sure why you did it, it seems like some sort of jealousy or something, but even if it is that, Sebastian should not be made to suffer for the "sins" of his father. He comes across as a very likable young man. I hope he does return someday,but I'm not holding my breath.


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Posted by:

Claire

Subject: Jeff and Steve

If Amy Helm ever honored us by posting here and was treated rudely, I wonder what your reaction would be.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Joan,

Woody Guthrie's The Car song


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Posted by:

Steve

Claire,I don't think it was necessary , everyone is welcome here. There's no sign on the door limiting entry. It's only once you get in that some people like to control other people's posts. To once again paraphrase Captain Renault," Freedom to post what you think is being shot down, round up the usual suspects.

JG, just read the posts stop playing detective. I was going to ask if he knew if anyone had kept a diary but then thought that was not a answer he'd probably know so I kept it to his father.

I think the diary question is a good one. Don't you think it would be interesting to hear quotes from a diary in a book written about what happened 40 years ago? Maybe your memory is better than most but how good would it be at remembering exactly what happened during the week of October 10th to 17th in 1968?

I've never questioned Levon's take on what happened, how could I, I wasn't there. I can only compare and weigh what he says to what others say on the same subjects. It would be the same about J2RS.

Also lets clear one thing up . because I don't worship at the altar of J2RS says nothing about what I think about him as a musician and song writer.

I have problems only with the level of credit he takes for some of my favorite songs. I have no doubt he's responsible for most of the lyrics, if not all, for the songs he takes credit for and probably for most of the melody lines but I think those songs without the contributions of others wouldn't be the same songs.

I'm guessing that without the contributions that others made to those songs we wouldn't all be here.

And to end on a positive note, to quote a singer who gets top marks in peer reviewed work, " Robertson ain't a sainger"!


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Posted by:

Friend0

Deb, the most innoccuos way I can phrase this is that what transpired here for a few days was pretty deep. Sebastian being here was absolutely extremely interesting. And there are posts he made that offer plenty to talk about intelligently for quite some time, if some one wanted to. And Sebastian is of course able to return any time he wants to. Sebastian didn't leave cause his feelings were hurt.

I do hope you enjoy your day Deb.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Happy songs for happy kids

Joan, your compilation for your niece is a great idea. My contribution would be Hayes Carll's "Girl Downtown." She's got "freckles on her nose, pencils in her pockets, and ketchup on her clothes," and it's my six-year-old niece's favorite song.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Speaking for myself ....

Actually, Steve, it didn't occur to me to carve out an exception for you since you'd already done that for yourself, with your post asking if Robbie had kept a diary -- a question obviously aimed to support your inevitable criticism of any book he may write. I'm sure no one here would mistake you for open-minded about Robbie, no less a fan.


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Posted by:

Deb

Jeff, you can toss out any kind of rationalization you want to -- smoke signals, a boat ride down the crazy river, whatever suits your agenda. You were rude, pure and simple and you know it. I suspect others do too, but I certainly won't presume to speak for anyone else. I don't see any reason for it. It was not a way to treat ANY newcomer, let alone someone close to a member of the Band who was willing to take the time to answer questions and interact with us, even to the point of including other family members. It may not have meant anything to you or some other posters, but there are people here who found Sebastian's contributions interesting and were glad he was here. Even if that was not the case for you, common courtesy should have been enough for you to hold back. I guess we'll just have to make do with rambling accounts of bands you've seen and people you've met. I need to spend more time off the computer anyway, so thanks for helping me do that.


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Posted by:

Claire

Subject: The rest of us

Steve, thankfully I didn't make my welcome to Sebastian "all inclusive".


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: All Inclusive Disgust ?

JG, maybe you could quantify," the rest of us". I prefer to post for myself.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: y'all probably know this

but 'Electric Dirt' to follow up 'Dirt Farmer'


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Jan F: Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap...

Acca Dacca, (as they're known here, and probably elsewhere) are great for kids, provided you don't point out the lyrical content... so Joan, probably 'For those about to Rock', or 'Thunderstruck' for your niece...

But acca dacca are great anyway


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Smoke

Many of you have no or little understanding of how to read or send smoke signals. Alot transpired here in a few days. Growing up on Smoke Signal Boulevard, not far from the island formed where it intersects Snake Oil Street and Smoke & Mirrors Lane, I was able to participate nicely and actually do a solid for someone out west who has contributed so nicely to music and all our lives.

If Robbie wrote a book. And maybe even followed up with a speaking engagement tour, obviously it would be a way for him to tell his story. And his side of a particular story.

As I have always said, Garth is the man I hope that we all one day get to hear talk for a week or two.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: IBH--our motto is "Yes, Dear"

Lars: We meet somewhere in the ether. As for emancipation & voting rights...we're working on it. Oh, gotta go, the wife wants me to take out the trash, then clean the windows, then.....


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Posted by:

starla whaley

Location: lancaster pennsylvania
Web: My link

Subject: aka clytie nevels

hello all-i love Levon Helm- I worked with him as his daughter on The Dollmaker-amazing man and incredible musician-Levon if you see this-grab me-I miss you....Starla


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Washington Depot

Lars - I'll never forget that show!


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: The Big Step

FRED- Do you ever go to one of their meetings? My wife won't let me go. Any word yet on emancipation and our right to vote?

BOB- I hope you have a good week with Chris at home. You ought to take him up to Mohonk (where Butch works) and get that free meal that Butch offered a while back. If he isn't around, I can get you in, but I don't have the "pull" to get you a free meal.

GENE- Remember that Washington Depot Aids benefit about ten years ago? That was the night Rick got Garth to sing an entire song ("It sounds familar, but I don't know... sing another verse," as Rick gives the audience a wink ). If I'm not mistaken, that was the last show Rick ever did in NY. That was sometime in Nov 1999. I'll have to look that up to be sure.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Antoher member joins the International Brotherhood of Husbands

Bob W: congratulations to your son (and his bride, too) on the upcoming wedding.


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Posted by:

biff

doh


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: ...one little chop busting...

There you go FRiendo, you admit it. You're a shit disturber. Hope you're happy shithead.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: "Friendly chop busting"? Not remotely.

I guess we all knew it was only a matter of time, but there was simply no way to head it off. Sebastian's generous presence here posed an opportunity that the most childish among us just couldn't pass up. All we can do now is hope that the disgusted responses from the rest of us might somehow convince Sebastian not to give up on us completely. Many of us here are great fans of Robbie's, and we'll just have to keep hoping that we haven't seen the last of his clever and gracious son in these pages. Thank you, Sebastian.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: RIP Dom DiMaggio

7 time All-Star who proved that Red Sox and Yankees can be brothers.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Dunc

It's about the MUSIC - not the 'Quick Buck'


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Gene

Well Gene. You've taken it to a new low. Hope to make a quick buck, do you?


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Obituary Donald Evans

Bassist for Skynard


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Vinyl archives

An interesting NY Times piece on one man's vinyl archives.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: One Question for Sebastian

1.a) Do you collect (or have access to) erm... Unofficial Band (and/or Unofficial Band-related) CD and/or DVD material.

1.b) do you have a tradelist.

Thank you.


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Posted by:

Nick

Sebastian: it was great reading your answers. A real treat.

David P: Joe Walsh also appears on Rick's Times Like These CD on the "Change is Good" track.

No offense to Joe Walsh, who I quite like, but I believe I read something on a message board where someone who knew him said that RD was not a fan of the Eagles but he didn't discriminate by genre. If it sounded good to him he didn't care who it was. Maybe Carol would know better. I doubt Rick Danko would have ever said he didn't like a certain group publicly though. I've never seen an interview with him where he was negative or critical towards another artist. The worst I heard him say was in a response to a question about guitar players who play too many notes "I don't play with people like that". The Band was all about leaving space for each other. Very unselfish playing.

To me the Eagles are imitators of The Band. I do understand the commercial appeal though.

The Band's music ages like fine wine. Cahoots is a great example. I love the remastered CD!


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

If you could care less.., then why did you take the time to write that long winded post? To fair warn him from Peter V - that is just an excuse to hide behind and complete BS. I think Sebastian could have handled himself and I doubt Peter V or anyone was going to nit pick grammer. The nit picking comes because of A.) A posters own attitude/arrogance or B.) Typos so grotesque that it makes reading them near futile if not altogether futile. It's one thing to not spell a word right or miss a comma, or maybe the tense is off, but who cares as long as the gist is communicated. It's a whole other ballgame when letters are completely replaced by other letters or words jammed together without spaces, or tense, grammer and flow of thought are so jumbled as to sound borderline troubled - or in some cases the whole menu of everything in choice B with a dash of choice A for good measure. That's where nit picking comes from - in many cases.


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Posted by:

Simon

Dunc - Things are pretty good at the moment, thanks. I've got a couple of old Mojo mags from a while back with John Martyn interviews and such ... I'm getting a scanner soon so I'll put the mags aside if you want them. Re. "Thinking Out Loud" ... it sounds like it could be harmonized guitars on that one. There was a funny story from way back when in the GB ... not totally sure but I think it was Ben Pike - might be wrong on that - but he met Robbie doing a signing at a book/record shop and he asked Robbie to sign something for a friend and insisted he put "To [whoever], stop underrating Cahoots, regards, Robbie Robertson." He said they both laughed about it.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: Sebastian

FRIENDO: I doubt that Sebastian will be back, but it was good of him to show up. He gave us plenty of food for thought.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Simon

Simon:We crossed. Thanks. Things are fine just now. I miss John. We are a passionate people us Scots, but mannerly. It was great how John wanted the interview to continue at the end.

Maybe you could help with my guitar question below, which would have been my next question for Sebastian, if things hadn't turned out differently. I really like Cahoots.

How are you doing Simon?


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Posted by:

Deb

Jeff, eventually this place will consist of you talking to yourself.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bob W, Jan H, David P

Bob W:Hope things go well for the wedding.

Jan H:Thanks for the website. It's a lot of work and I still read something every week and I play something of the Band every week. This week I'm reading lead singers on Band songs, which took me back to Cahoots.

David P:I really enjoy "Thinkin' Out loud", including the guitar playing. I need your help as a guitarist. Are there three guitars on this track? How would Robbie lay the guitars on this track down?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Sebastian Robertson: Too Soon Gone.

Cmon Back Sebastian. Quotation marks, schmotation marks. You know i could care less. As I indicated, I was concerned Peter was gonna give you a hard time eventually.

Everyone has a lot to talk about with you. You are the son of a tough kid who grew up half breed on the reservation and then in bloody beer joints playing rock ansd roll Gawd Damn it. You, I, and most people all know one little friend0ly chop busting ain't running you off. Something else must have gotten in your head.

I expected you'd agree that Rick wouldn't have fit in The Eagles. /n Pete, there were 3 or 4 "episodes" ( your term)in which you were long adamant about how Rick would have thrived in The Eagles. It was your theory, noone elses.


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Posted by:

Simon

Dunc - That John Martyn story from last week was a classic. I forwarded it to a friend and he was absolutely in stitches. Hope all is well with you.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Sebastian

Thanks Sebastian for taking time to answer my question. A life without music is one not worth living. Your dad's writing has given me a lot of pleasure so please thank him for me. It's a pity your last post was was one tinged with hurt. For many posters here, Robbie's our Mozart. You gave and the vast majority of us appreciated your contributions. Hope things go well for you and your dad.


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Posted by:

Simon

Subject: Sebastian

Sebastian - Many thanks for your time and patience ... I do hope you stick around or at least drop in from time to time. The only question I'd like to ask is this - is there a chance that we could see a complete release of the Albert Hall performance from 1971? The three tracks on A Musical History are so good that it's a fantasy of mine that the whole thing might one day surface. That really would be special, I think.

I bumped into a couple from Toronto a few weeks back in Liverpool city centre ... they were asking for directions and mentioned the Beatles. I told them it was nice that they were interested in the "second greatest group ever" ... they naturally wanted to know who I considered the greatest. Their eyes lit up when I said "The Band." They were definitely 'made up', as we like to say here.

Thanks again.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Busy weekend ahead. Chris is home for his wedding next Saturday! Happy times. Wishing all of the Moms here and everywhere a very Happy Mother's Day.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Van on the Tonight Show

For those of you who missed Van on Jay Leno


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Posted by:

Claire

Subject: One brief shining moment. . . .

Sebastian, thank you.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Grammar

INTERNET:

1.) Native speakers (English) have to get used to people who speak English as their second language (or fourth like me). 2.) American English will take over, stiff upperlip and indeed-I-do will be soon forgotten. 3.) We who don't speak English as first language must get used to be misunderstood - and not to understand everything. 4.) Disabled, careless, drunken, very young and very old, sick and tired people do post in internet. In case we are not among them yet, someday we certainly will be.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kristie, I don't know how tight a community you fire tower guys are but I heard a woman on CBC a couple of weeks back who has been doing this job for years and has had a book published recently. She works in Alberta towards the BC border. I'm curious to know if you are aware of her since you seem to be connected to both the arts and firefighting communities . Unfortunately I don't remember her name. If it helps she mentioned that a helicopter with two people on it crashed right near her tower a few years back. One of the two people was killed.


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Posted by:

David P.

Levon & Rick have played in a band with Joe Walsh, backing a former Beatle. Guess who won Grammy awards last year -- Levon and the Eagles, their first in 29 years.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Sebastian

my apologies.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Folkways Sebastian

This is a link to the Smithsonian Folkways site. You can find music of the likes of Pete Seeger, Dylan, Leonard Cohen,Doc Watson, and many more. The price is right , Free! Worth checking out.

Sebastian, I'm sorry we barraged you with so many questions. Just anxious and excited I suppose Please forgive the carping posts. I totally understand if you chose not to drop around but I hope you'll come by occasionally with news of your Dad's projects, and any other music goodies you chose to share. Your patience and willingness to share is greatly appreciate. Thank you!


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Sebastion

A bit back, "friendo" also corrected my grammar. I ignore him now. I am just not biting the bait anymore. Everyone else in the Gb is great, and if you stick around you will see they are friendly, and obviously, very excited to have your participation! I really have learned a lot here.

Also, great work over on Facebook! Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions there and for posting all the new photos, etc. It has been an exciting couple of months for me.


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Posted by:

Steve

NB,my point exactly, you're on your meds and they're working. I had to reread my post to make sure I didn't accuse YOU of correcting anyone, even me. I didn't see it, but that being a fact it may have registered but then been deleted by your anti-fact removal software.

Did you check out that "As It Happens" link to a segment on grammar I put up for you a week or so ago? It was right up your valley.

Peter I think I remember the episode you're speaking of, but I think it was you that mentioned both the limited career opportunities, post Last Waltz, and Rick in the Eagles, but I could be wrong. I think you were speaking of everyone but J2RS, of course. I think if someone had made the blanket statement covering all five members you would have first made that correction about J2RS but I don't remember that issue being in contention. It could have also been someone like BUMBLES now that I think a little more about it. To paraphrase, Captain Renault , The 04 have been insulted, round up the usual suspects!


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Rick as an Eagle

That hurts my feelings. I just don't see him in that type of an outfit. Although Rick is a fine country & folk singer he also had a great feeling & the chops for soul & rockabilly. And the Eagles had none of that, in spades. But he would have likely become rich and that's none of my damn biz.

Joe Walsh lent the Eagles some credibility over their lite & shallow avocado rock, but I remain a solid non-fan.


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Posted by:

Ilkka Jaramo

Location: Nordic Countries, Europe

Subject: 1.) Thanks Sebastian 2.) YIPEEE!!!!

1.) I second Mr. Pedersen's post: "SEBASTIAN- You have no idea how refreshing the past few days have been since you came in here to share your knowledge. This whole site has been (in the words of Neil Young) "one of the pleasures of my life" since I first found it in 1996 [... for myself a couple of years later]. I also want to thank Jan Hoiberg for putting up with all of my childish behavior and give him credit for all of his work on what must be a work of love."

2.) YIPEEE!!! We who use Linux in surfing are now over 1% - we are 1.02%. Selling of notebooks shipped with Linux is practically stopped here in Nordic Countries for "some reasons". - What would M$ do when we are over 1.03% ?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin J … just about right, but the guy in the corner who shouts out tends not to shout out The Weight, but "Fanny!" or at Van Morrison shows "Radio!" I've often pondered this, and I think it's because he never bought the records, just had a C90 from a pal.


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Posted by:

Freakin' Intrepid Northern Boy: Man of Inter-Provincial Mystery

Subject: Wrong Grammar Police

Stevon Farm: You are the only GBer whose (not who's) grammar I have ever corrected. (Well, Bumbles once when he tried to correct mine by saying there's no e in forego, when in fact in you can put an e in forego, or if you prefer, forgo the e altogether, but not all together. So you see, I wasn't really correcting Bumbles' grammar at all, but rather pointing out that he was incorrect in correcting mine). So this hardly makes me a member of The Grammar Police as you are always so fond of implying, or as you would say "inferring".

I will come totally clean however, about being a staunch member of THE GRAMMER POLICE. We are a dedicated group of individuals determined to apprehend Kelsey Grammer and make him finally square up for the bar tab he ran up over all those years he appeared as Fraser Crane on "Cheers". NB


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Posted by:

Peter V

Weird things are said on the internet. The weirdest for a while must be “FriendO” (of all people) having the nerve to criticize anyone for punctuation or spelling. Maybe he was trying to be amusing. Who knows? But do ignore such stuff and carry on communicating.

I’ll also put the Eagles conversation into context. From recall, someone had said The Band members had limited career opportunities post-TLW, and I said that Rick, being personable, getting along well with fellow musicians, and being a great singer with a taste leaning towards country rock could have become an Eagle in an alternative reality (had there been a vacancy) and therefore the richest of the lot. This caused shock and horror and exposed a certain entrenched distaste for the Eagles among regulars. I had two ways out, either say I meant the British instrumental group of the early 60s, not the Hotel California guys (I didn’t really think that would run), or defend the position. Then I started thinking about it and watched Hell Freezes Over DVD, and why not? They can all sing, they can all play, I don’t think the material would have been a problem. He’d have created space to do a few of his own choices and would have had excellent backing singers to assist. I think the “Eagles” issue is that they were extremely successful, and thus cause resentment among fans of similar bands like Poco, Pure Prairie League or the Flying Burrito Brothers who weren’t any less accomplished as players and singers, but were rewarded far less for their efforts. In the end, that’s down to the Eagles having songwriters who managed to tap into a popular appeal. Or crudely put, The Eagles had stronger songs.


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Posted by:

david vitatoe

Location: amarillo tx

Subject: best bands

when i think about the band i feel like their one of the best bands ever,,take jack my dog,what a great line,my dog jack the white chihuahua got me to thinking about it,,yours truly,,d.v.


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Posted by:

biff

oh well, back to the blather


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Posted by:

Adam

Correcting Sebastian on his PUNCTUATION? How ridiculous. This is a website guestbook, not a college final paper. Stupid stuff like that is probably why he's not going to stick around.


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Posted by:

Deb

Sebastian, thanks for spending some time here and taking time to answer a barrage of questions. Most folks really appreciate it.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Sawdust brings with it what it does......

This just in……….Friendo is that guy who sits in the corner of the club and screams out “Chest Fever”…….after it’s played, he quiets down for about 5 minutes – everyme relaxes and then he immediately starts screaming “The Weight”………Funny thing is – he doesn’t even know he’s being impolite and eventually everyone in the club including the performers resign themselves to this. Part of walking into any club – you figure…….


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Posted by:

Steve

Sebastian, don't take the grammar thing personally many of us have had an occasional grammar faux pas corrected here. FriendO has a weakness for the correct use of quotation marks. No problem there. NB was probably at his keyboard white knuckling the whole time but out of deference to Jaime Royal Robertson's son just upped his anti-grammar reflex medication to keep his twitching under control.

Too bad the book isn't already underway. Memory is quirky and unreliable at the best of times and doesn't improve with time.

Do you know if your dad keep a diary at the time? That would be a treasure.


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Posted by:

The Clever Pup

Location: Canada
Web: My link

Subject: Last Waltz entry on my blog

I wrote about my take on the DVD of the Last Waltz over at my blog. Feel free to comment but please be kind. http://the-clever-pup.blogspot.com


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Thank you for taking the time to correct my grammar. When I try to create paragraphs the quotations are being created. Just not used to this format I suppose. Seems a bit odd and slightly in bad taste to comment on it though. By the way you've got a few misspelled words in your post. I won't be back to the GB for a while so I hope I haven't left anyone hanging. I'll leave with this. I don't believe anyone in THE BAND could have thrived as an Eagle. Seems like a gross mismatch to me. And as far as the bands you've named I've never heard my dad talk about any of them. Hopefully that answers your questions. Oh and there are no immediate plans for my dad to write a book although I imagine we'll see one in our lifetimes.


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Posted by:

Crabshaw

Location: Wisconsin, maybe

Subject: yerp

Yes, is Robbie gonna write a book?!


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Posted by:

Steve

Claire, I think you've asked the most important question yet. Let's hope Sebastian has an answer, a positive one, before he fades back into the ether.


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Posted by:

biff

friendo, did u get ur ass kicked in gym class back in the day?


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Posted by:

biff



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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: JRR

Thanks for clearing that up Sebastian. I was curious about the transformation of the name.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: the trees

Subject: Incredulity

"Beam me up, Scotty......"


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: What's Your Name?

On the back cover of the original LP version of John Hammond's 1965 "So Many Roads" album the musicians were listed as: C.D. MUSSELWHITE harmonica, JAIME R. ROBERTSON guitar, MARK LEVON HELM drums, MICHAEL BLOOMFIELD piano, JIMMY LEWIS bass and ERIC HUDSON Hammond organ. One must wonder what was the source for these credits -- was it the names listed on their musicians union cards?


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Actually, my name is Mike, not Mikw:).


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Posted by:

Mikw

Web: My link

Subject: The "Anchorage" is now open for the summer season.

The Lake Sunapee (NH) seasonal restaurant / bar just up the street from Kim's & my residence where Joe Perry & Steve Tyler of Aerosmith 1st met in the later '60s opens tonight under new ownership.


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Posted by:

Friend0

I'm not quite sure how to propose this without somebody attempting to paint it as incendiary. But, I shall anyway. I feel almost like I'd be doing a kindness to the son of someone who was part of the greatest band on earth.

Sebastian, i do hope you accept this in the right spirit. Now this comes from someone who for a long time, did not bother to check for typing errors. I have nerve damage in both hands and often type very hurriedly. It is not unusual for me to be in and out the door twenty times a day, so alot of my posts get and got made on the fly. In Norbert & Peter's GB, I caught lots of criticism for typing errors. And I really didn't care. I figured it was more important to make the post, than catch every error. And then there were/are people who go out of their way to spell wrong intentionally. But that is a whole nother type of bird.

Jan, reopening this GB, set up that review and approve function that often slows me down, makes me look. Having that built in self check prompt, which i still sometimes ignore, does help me remember to check for typos. but i'll still miss a few.

Now your affliction, is a little different. But there are many here qualified to school you in the proper usage of quotation marks. It isn' t a big deal, i'm sure everyone has been able to figure out what is what and whch is which, but if Peter or NB, both being english instructors, or Steve, once a english instructor, care to volunteer, maybe you guys can do it by private e mail. And it is possible you already know where quotation marks should be placed, but working on a computer throws you off. Who knows? But i;m thinking that i better tell you first before it becomes a source of irritation for Peter and i know he woudln't want to have to have any issues with Robbie's son. Pete's probably been in conflict over pointing this out to you himself, so maybe I'm doing him a favor raising the subject.

Anyway, it's not a big deal for me, but i am trying to do as much as i can to insure your participation here is as pleasant and valuable as it should be. And some of your dad's biggest and most ardent supporters are punctuation pistoleros. So, I'm just cluing you in, helping you dodge the bullet and keep he family name clean.

There are a fe wmore things i'd like to discuss with you, but it could be quite some time till I get around to it.

Meanwhile, what did your pop think about Poco, The Burrito Brothers, and CSN & Y? Don Henley? Peter thinks Rick would have made a perfect Eagle, even thrived in the Eagles. I never agreed, as a matter of fact, it's been a source of discord between us. \


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Posted by:

Friend0

Stabbi, he is without contention the most intepidest nutjob I know.



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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: la bovina, la gloire

As far as songs for young 'uns, "All La Glory" might be popular. I'm deeply conflicted about the idea of proposing "Rag Mama Rag" as appropriate fare for children.

Please see [My link] for the new beverage alternative (antidote?) to Red Bull - from Québec, bien sure.


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Posted by:

Bill M

NB: Speaking of another man called Intrepid, there was an article a couple days ago about a series of walking tours of the grounds of Camp X on the Whit/Osh border - now called Intrepid Park. One's on Aug 22 if you wanna show the Girl where you and Ian Fleming used to train in the dark arts of hand-to-hand combat.


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Posted by:

Stabbi

Subject: here to please

That NB - man, he's freakin' intrepid!


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: What's in a name continied...

I had no idea that the "R" in JR Robertson stood for "Royal". It's interesting. I know he was going by Jaime Robbie Robertson on the first three albums, but seems to have dropped Jaime sometime between 'Stagefright' and 'Cahoots'. "

" Robbie is listed as Jaime Robbie Robertson. Now I understand the confusion. He real name is Jaime Royal Robertson. Robbie is the stage name and now his only name and Jaime Robbie is used for songwriting.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Some of you might care to know that the storefront sporting the left-most neon record in Kevin J's video of Sam's previously housed Steele's Tavern, where Gordon Lightfoot was the resident performer for a couple of years '63-65. Sam kept the bar counter and some stools in that section of the store so it had a bit of a special feel to it.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Sam the Record Man

The above link may only be of interest to NB but for Band fans - this is a part of the Yonge street strip that our boys spent some great times.............


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Bill M.

You had to go and mention the demise of Sam's, didn't you ? I'm still getting over that because being within walking distance of Hotel Mom, I used to automatically go there on every trip back to Trawna. It may be a small consolation to know that your old school, Bill, (not "you're old school, Bill") now has their hands on the building. Pretty sure anyway. (I'm assuming you're a Ryerson journalism grad). Thanks for the leads on your articles. Only got to one of them so far. (Wish someone would call me "intrepid" on the internet). Of course we'll have to talk later about the book you've not gotten around to writing yet but definitely eventually will someday (providing it doesn't deprive us of your presence here at the GB). Sorry, gotta run off to another one of my god damn anger management classes. Later. (Had different buskers in mind than those mentioned by you but wait for the questions before answering Bill. Quizzes function better that way.NB)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Georgia Pines

In my secondhand vinyl browsing I came across "Black Girl" by The Four Pennies, my first exposure to the Leadbelly song "In the Pines". I'd been appalled by the Nirvana Uncut version with its dreadful PC lyric "My girl, my girl …" and I'd always remembered The Four Pennies version as vastly superior. I got the disc home, put it on, sat back … and unfortunately it's not very good. Not crap, but just not very good. The tricks our memory plays.

On Rick's tale of "four" unreleased Goldstar songs, I'd aleady pointed out that "I'm sitting here a thousand miles from nowhere" is the first line of Mose Allison's "One room Country Shack" which means two of those he mentioned were the same song.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Bill if you have a chance, go on over and cheer Big Jean on. I lived across from the Forum for 12 years and would see him quite often. Truly a gentleman. Always would say hello and how are you and shake anybody's hand as well as patiently sign autographs when it was -20 C outside. Of course another of your fellow alumini from Ryerson would be Trish Stratus, former fitness model, wrestler, television personality,and business entrepreneur. I posted this before David but there is a plaque on a local department store placed by the Daughters Of The Confederacy, commemerating a stay by Jefferson Davis at the home of John Lovell, after his release from prison. The plaque is located on the Union St. side of the Bay department store.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: still in metro DC

Subject: NPR interview of Robbie

Please note that at the end of the NPR interview of Robbie by Ross Reynolds, the credits, as I'm mentioned . . . . most of you probably remember (I know Peter will remember!) that I supplied Ross with a copy of Bengali Bauls at Big Pink (from vinyl to CD) and he used all of ten seconds of music in the interview. Sure was nice to get a credit on that one . . . not expected, plus Ross sent me a copy of the interview.

Jan F.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Levon

And didn't Levon say in his book that the kids all loved dancing to "Stagefright?" I believe Amy Helm said in an interview that it was all of the kid's favorite song.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Joan

Joan-I highly recommend any of Woody Guthrie's kids songs. They have catchy melodies, and they teach kids about respect, and loving the earth and each other. Very simple, beautiful songs.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: Yes and Joyce wisely chose to use his real middle name, rather than Hiram :-)


Entered at Thu May 7 19:49:28 CEST 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1279277296.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.56.240)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Lists

Some thoughts with respect to the great lists of the last few days……mine are as follows:

The Band:

Ophelia….Twilight…It Makes No Difference…The Weight…TNTDODD

Robbie Robertson:

Showdown at Big Sky…Sonny Got Caught by the Moonlight…Between Trains…Night Parade…Soap Box Preacher

5 Favorite Moments from The Last Waltz:

1. Flickering of lights just before UOCC kicks off…….2. Mavis Staple’s lovely purr/grunt of “uh huh” in The Weight…….3. Rick’s transcendent performance of IMND and that beautiful interplay with Garth and RR at the end…….4. RR’s story of RH initiation “Well son, you won’t make much money but you will get more……than Frank Sinatra”….at a teenager at the time I saw it - this one line somehow confirmed my love of R n R and elevated Sinatra all at the same time…….5. Levon’s singing on TNTDODD – truly as stated one of the great performances in R n R history.

That interview that bob w posted with RR is superb. Very very funny in parts. I had not heard it before.


Entered at Thu May 7 19:28:29 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Wow! Next you'll be telling us that General Grant was the model for Joyce's other great book.


Entered at Thu May 7 19:26:29 CEST 2009 from 21cust173.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.173)

Posted by:

Steve

Joan, Rag Mama Rag, is a song that would catch our kids' attention, for its rhythm, tempo and curious lyrics. I remember our son, Robbie, when he was about 5 or 6 pointing out the, Dog eat dog, and cat eat mouse, line. I think he said it was cool. I think it might have been the first song lyric I heard him walking around the house repeating, along with other lines from the song which he didn't quite get as accurately but the song definitely sucked him in.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Thanks for the songs/ David P

Thanks to everyone for their song suggestions. I think I have the makings of a great mix CD for Eloise.You can't start them too early. :)

David P thanks for all that Civil War info. I really enjoy that "stuff"


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Jefferson's Wake

Bill M: Yes there is a Dublin (Laurens County) in middle Georgia, half-way between Atlanta and Savannah. Dublin, incidentally, was the site of Jefferson Davis' last encampment, by the Oconee River, before moving southeast to Irwinville. The town was founded by an Irishman from Dublin and James Joyce makes reference to the Georgia town in "Finnegan's Wake":

"...nor had topsawyers rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselves to Laurens County's gorgios while they went doublin their mumper all the time."

Where, but in Georgia, can you find a link between Jefferson Davis and James Joyce? I have a feeling there's the makings of a song here :-)


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

Subject: ... and since that day he ain't been the same

David P: Does Georgia have a Dublin as well? I'm thinking of "The Merry Ploughboy" aka "We're Off To Dublin In The Green", a hit here in '67 by the Carlton Showband. Also, what'cha gonna do with that pun, son?


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: They gave this ploughboy fortune and fame

Although Georgia of course was a vital part of the Confederacy, its governor during the Civil War, Joseph Emerson Brown, was a constant thorn in Jefferson Davis' side with his criticism. Joe Brown rose from a modest backgroung and his political enemies, mostly rich plantation owners, referred to him derisively as "The Ploughboy".


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, the one game I saw as a kid at the Montreal Forum, when Le Gros Bill was on the team involved a spat between Big Bill and the diminutive Camille Henri who is listed at 5'7" and 150 lbs.

I was only about 10 at the time but vividly remember Big Bill, with the linesmen between he and Henri, reaching over the linesman's head with his stick and trying to poke Henri with the blade of his stick.

Maybe he held a grudge against Camille for beating him out for the Rookie Of The Year Award In 54.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Into the Mystic

Bill M: That's a bad pun son, but towns near Irwinville include Pinetta, Mystic & Waterloo.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

David P: Thanks for the note. How fair is it to say, at this late date, that still, Georgia pines?

Steve / Landmark: The link above tells us that St Jean Beliveau is getting a Hon Doc from my alma mater. As Ryerson is mere blocks from the sacred Maple Leaf Gardens, maybe it's really in recognition of his efforts to hand the Leafian hordes their last Cup, in '67 (i.e., the uncharacteristic five minutes for spearing)? Pretty much the last time that Joni's "money riding on the Maple Leafs" was smart as well as little. (Had to work that in cuzza Robbie being on guitar.)


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: May 10, 1865

As the 144th anniversary date approaches this Sunday, I thought I'd mention a little bit of Georgia history. Early in the morning on May 10, 1865, Confederate President Jefferson Davis & his entourage, including family members, were captured after a firefight near Irwinsville (nka Irwinville), Georgia, southeast of Macon. There's a park & monument there commemorating the site. He was captured by the 4th Michigan Cavalry. It is interesting to note that Davis narrowly avoided capture months earlier by troops under the command of Gen. George Stoneman in North Carolina. After his long flight from Richmond, Davis was trying to reach sympathetic forces in Texas, in a last ditch try to revive the Confederacy.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I can't decide if it'd be to the tune of "Thompson The Headless Gunner", which has been mention here today, or "Lawrence of Euphoria", which was on the Skip Spence album mentioned last week, but surely "Steven The Autolightbulb" has the makings of a dandy song.


Entered at Thu May 7 16:33:31 CEST 2009 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

dlew919: your kids are like my kids . . . beat of a different drummer?? When RJ was four, he really loved "Dirty Deeds, Done Dirt Cheap," by AC/DC. Now, at age 33, he is still embarrassed when we mention that song. He liked the volcano song by Jimmy Buffett also. JC was more into show tunes - "Singing in the Rain," "Phantom of the Opera," stuff like that. So now he is in a musical group that is said to sound like a cross between REM and Stereo Lab . . . go figure.

Great post Lars except usually a simple "Shut up Steve" does the trick ;-)

Jan F.


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Posted by:

Steve

Easy Lars, remember the touchy feely," it all begins with kindness" image you're trying to portray. Maybe now you understand why you didn't get my email address when you asked for it a while back. I've been down the" I'm your friend road before". No thanks. I thought it would be better for people to see your nasty side right here in public. No behind the scenes crap like in the past. You've got something to say to me, say it here. Gentleman, indeed.

Sebastian, thanks for clearing up the " Levon driving Robbie to the library" incident in the writing of TNTDODD. I know it's a trivial thing but I always had trouble picturing those guys, at that time, sitting quietly in a library. Buying the books at a bookstore makes more sense.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: What's in a name

Sebastian, Thanks for the background info on Robbie's name. I had no idea that the "R" in JR Robertson stood for "Royal". It's interesting. I know he was going by Jaime Robbie Robertson on the first three albums, but seems to have dropped Jaime sometime between 'Stagefright' and 'Cahoots'.


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Posted by:

Ben Barnaby

Location: Parks Unknown

Subject: questions for Sebastian

I had some obscure questions that I thought Sebastian might be able to answer, if possible. Just a series of alleged rarities

The question pertains to reported tracks the Band cut around the time of "Music From Big Pink" and the "Brown Album." I was curious if they were in fact recorded, demoed or whatever.

(Some of this information comes from Barney Hoskyn's book, which your father has already said contained a lot of "guessing.")

The songs in question:

"I Want To Be A Single Girl Again"

"Little Birdies"

"Beautiful Thing"

"Davey's On The Road Again"

There's also the question of what was or wasn't recorded during the Gold Star Studio sessions besides "Long Distance Operator" and "Key To The Highway."

Rick allegedly said these songs were cut as well (per Viney article)

"My House Ain’t But A Mile and a Quarter"

"Sitting Here A Thousand Miles From Nowhere"

"Back At The Old Country Shack"

"Liza Jane"

Was the Band's Winterland, Mississippi River Festival and/or Isle of Wight sets recorded professionally (I know the Dylan IOW set was)?

Lastly, I know you mentioned this and the legal hassle of the matter, but I think the group's Woodstock set was tremendous and should be released on DVD.

Thank you for considering any of the following you care to answer. Thanks


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Posted by:

Lars Pedersen

Location: The Woods

Subject: Sebastian

SEBASTIAN- You have no idea how refreshing the past few days have been since you came in here to share your knowledge. This whole site has been (in the words of Neil Young) "one of the pleasures of my life" since I first found it in 1996. I also want to thank Jan Hoiberg for putting up with all of my childish behavior (the flame wars around 1998-2000) and give him credit for all of his work on what must be a work of love.

The music of The Band has been an obsession with me for many years. I'm sorry to say that my daughters heard so much of it as they grew up that they learned to dread it. But there's hope: after they've been away to college and gone out on their own, I've caught a couple of them listening to "Acadian Driftwood" along with their other music. They may come around yet.

Jan, please excuse the following "slip." Steven Heggison, go screw yourself. Thanks for listening.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

I don't know if this interview was posted here in the past. Very entertaining.


Entered at Thu May 7 14:34:01 CEST 2009 from mail1.lumberg.biz (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Question for Sebastion

Sebastion, I hope you can shed light on this for me as I have been curious about it for quite some time. I apologize if it seems 'feud related' because it really is not. With TLW your dad quit touring but not The Band, and group activity seemed to continue at least for a little while until it gradually stopped, perhaps in '78. It has been reported that The Band, Robbie included, always intended to at least record again. My question is around what timeframe or year did your dad finally see himself as a solo artist and no longer an active member of The Band, and was there really such a point in time? Or did he wake up one day and realize he had been a de fact solo artist for years and there was no need to look back. Did the rest of the Band regrouping in '83 have any influence on his decision or was it not relevent either way. I appreciate in advance your taking the time to answer.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: kids songs

Yes, I still exist. Joan, my daughter always gets moving to early Beach Boys music, like Surfin' Safari etc. She also loved the Grateful Dead's Throwing Stones, possibly because of the 'Ashes Ashes All Fall Down' lyric part which resembles the children's lyric.


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Posted by:

Lil

Hi right back atcha Dr Jon :-) Mail me! d_lil at hotmail dot com


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "New Orleans Jazz Fest" blog provides cool review & pics.

Just to name a few, Neil Young, Dr. John & Allen Toussaint all performed.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Alchemy of Woodstock" a cool live venue spot near Albert Grossman's Bearsville complex.


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Posted by:

Jonathan Katz

Subject: Remixes

Proof reading is not my forte either.

I meant any important omissions (of remixes on Jan's list)?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just read through and spotted my typo. Unintentionally funny. Sorry, it was not a Roy Buchanan reference …


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Kids songs

Joan: Tull Fan sent me a track for Christmas that my grandkids loved and still love three years later… Holly Herald by Jethro Tull. It’s a musical chairs essential and instrumental, so you don’t have to think of it as seasonal. Other rockin’ favourites that get little kids dancing:

Egyptian Reggae – Jonathan Richman & The Modern lovers

Ice Cream Man / Wheels on The Bus - Jonathan Richman & The Modern lovers

Pick A Bale of Cotton … must be the Lonnie Donegan version though.

Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah … Bob B. Soxx & The Blue Jeans (they should know the Disney version first though).

Cuckoo Song … Mike Oldfield.

The Lion Sleeps Tonight – The Tokens

If you can find them on the net, the BBC Children’s Favourite’s CDs (there were four sets and a Christmas one) are fabulous collections of novelty hit songs, some only British hits, though Burl Ives features heavily.

Absolute in car favourite remains “On Top of Spaghetti” by Tom Glazer, followed by Robin Hood by Dick James and ANY version of Who’s Afraid of the Big Band Wolf.

One they hate is Simon Says by The 1910 Fruitgum Company. I had it on their in-car CD (and now iTunes Playlist) and they always insist on skipping it. Good taste.

Early 60s folk goes down very well too … Puff The Magic Dragon is a favourite, possibly because I can sing it straight through word perfect, and do. This is why they love the Peter, Paul & Mary version restoring the song. Also If I Had A Hammer by Trini Lopez (with Mickey Jones on drums for my first Band / Hawks connection).

The Dankettes won’t forgive me for having got this far without mentioning Blue Tail Fly by Rick Danko.


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Posted by:

Cwipple cweek

Location: Perth Australia

Subject: Acadian Driftwood

Hi Sebastion,I find it interesting that most of your family chose Acadian Driftwood.The Weight and Driftwood are the 2 songs that still send a shiver up my spine when I hear them.I can also relate to the lyrics in that I am a transplanted Canadian(Southwestern Ontario) living in Australia.I did it voluntarily whereas the Acadians didnt really have a choice.I remeber in first year University going home to my parents place and eagerly devouring Maritime history because of that song.I seldom post but just wanted to say please stay in the Guestbook and ignore any offending comments.Your input is a breath of fresh air.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Mixes

Several mixes are done during the making of the record. My dad likes to experiment with different people and approaches to mixing. This was also done in The Band. So you're assumption is a little off. Robbie is very involved in most of these. Rarely someone will do a mix off site. Generally speaking if a mix is done off site than Robbie will make notes etc.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: answer...

If we're each allowed one question of Sebastian, I feel silly wasting mine on this, but I'm really curious about when Robbie started going by the name of "Rob". Is this just a name that family and friends call him? I know that Robbie was originally his middle name, but does he still use Robbie as his professional name? or will the next album be titled Rob Robertson? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. "

" First, Robbie is not and never was his middle name. His middle name is Royal and Robbie was short for Robertson in high school. Rob is what family and friends call him.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: the kids are all right

Joan: my kids like roland the headless thompson gunner, or as my daughter calls it 'the midnight sun', and werewolves of london, but for more appropriate fare, a quick list /n Crocodile rock /n We will rock you /n See you later alligator /n


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Posted by:

Jonathan Katz

Location: Columbia, MD

Subject: Question for Sebastian

A quick look at Jan's Singles Discography page shows quite a few different mixes of many of Robbie's songs. And there are some but not many (thank you again, Jan) that are not even listed there. I'm sure that most or many of these were mixed during production of the original release of the album. But some were obviously remixed much later, and some seem to have had little input from Robbie (though I am guessing here, of course). So what's up with these? Did Robbie initiate the projects? Or did producers come to him with the ideas? What were the motivations for these later remixes? Were they remixed to add value to the singles? Does a quick look at Jan's list indicate any important submissions? Some of the parenthetical descriptions (e.g. Sweet Sioux mix, Midnight Special remix, to name a couple) are compelling enough even before hearing the track.

Hi Lil & Peter! [Hey Peter, what about disc 2?]


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kiddie CD feel free to jump in

I want to burn a CD for my great niece Eloise age 2 years 2 months. She loves her kiddie CDs. Her parents don't listen to music around the house that much. I'd love any suggestions to introduce good rock to her.

My initial ideas are "Yellow Submarine", Rag Mama Rag. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club. Any other ideas for light up tempo fun?


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Wilco (The Album)

This may be old news, but Wilco will also have a new album coming out on June 30th. In what must be a "The Band" inspired naming move, the new album will be called:
"Wilco (The Album)"

The first single from the new album will be called:
"Wilco the Song"

Details and tracklist at the link above.


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Posted by:

Adam

Sebastian, thanks for answering questions. Very cool. I have many but will limit it to just one for now... Have you ever met Richard? Any memories of him or stories from your father?


Entered at Thu May 7 04:37:26 CEST 2009 from 69.182.53.183.adsl.snet.net (69.182.53.183)

Posted by:

Todd

Subject: Names

Of course then I'll have a follow-up question about Zzzz shortening Sebastian's name to Seb. I suppose that economizing wherever possible these days may just be our salvation. Hmmm...my name's already pretty short. Guess I could go with "Tod" and save a little bandwidth. Just trying to do my part.


Entered at Thu May 7 04:31:26 CEST 2009 from 69.182.53.183.adsl.snet.net (69.182.53.183)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Bob Dylan Then Robbie/Rob

I think my credit card will melt if I keep this up. I just ordered tickets to a Dylan show this July as he makes a swing through Connecticut on his ballpark tour. Just doing my part to stimulate the economy! I saw him two years ago at the same minor league stadium in New Britain, CT....once the hardware capital of the world and home to Stanley Works, and now sadly a shell of it's former self. At the time I thought it might be the last time I would ever see Dylan live. At that show, I missed Larry Campbell's contributions, and it didn't help that I stood in pouring rain for three hours.

But every Dylan show, no matter how uneven, always has a moment or two that makes it worth the trip. Plus Dunc's favorable review of the show that he saw recently sealed the deal for me.

This song isn't necessarily on my top five band songs, but I've always enjoyed the quirkiness of 'Knockin' Lost John'...wild guitar and accordion and a fun vocal from Robbie. Probably one of the most upbeat sounding songs about the Great Depression ever recorded.

If we're each allowed one question of Sebastian, I feel silly wasting mine on this, but I'm really curious about when Robbie started going by the name of "Rob". Is this just a name that family and friends call him? I know that Robbie was originally his middle name, but does he still use Robbie as his professional name? or will the next album be titled Rob Robertson? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Wow, thanks for answering all those questions, Seb!!!... Especially loved hearing favs from your family...


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Posted by:

Nick

Thanks Sebastian. Sounds like quite a moment. I'd love to see more video from that show. Looks like an in house camera or something like that.


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Posted by:

Guidance Counselor

Location: 12X4
Web: My link

Subject: "Art Education & Physical Education"

「終」X29X13X7XThe Buzz_Sharon will give $3M reward for proof_11-15-08「吐吐」.;]


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Horseshoe

Hey Nick- I remember that gig. Rob is playing my guitar. I was about 15 and they snuck me in the back. Pretty sure Garth was there. Not positive though.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Clapton

EC has a house outside of Columbus. I believe his 3 girls are in school there. Southeastern Ohio has some beautiful country. Jorma's Fur Peace Ranch is about 75 miles south of Columbus.


Entered at Wed May 6 23:54:29 CEST 2009 from (206.53.144.44)

Posted by:

David P.

Subject: In(which)land Revenue

Pat B: Besides family considerations, one might wonder if certain tax issues are involved in where they spend certain lengths of time. The Edge of U2 has created a stir recently with his plans to construct an elaborate compound in the hills above Malibu.


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Posted by:

Nick

Subject: Horseshoe tavern-RR and RD, GH?

Sebastian, thanks for taking the time to answer so many questions.

At the end of this Juno Awards video of Rick, Robbie, Garth (backed by Blue Rodeo as well) doing The Weight there is a clip of Rick and Robbie playing the weight again at the Horshoe tavern. Does any more video of this performance exist to yous your knowledge? Was Garth there as well?

What does RR remember the Horseshoe jam?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ2fLoxe9iQ

Here is a Bandbite ( thanks Carol!) where in the middle of it Colin Linden talks about Robbie, rick and that night

http://theband.hiof.no/articles/ColinLindenBandBite11.html

Thanks!


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Posted by:

Claire

Subject: Sebastian

I join with the others here who wish you a warm welcome to The Band Guestbook. It’s an unexpected and very pleasant surprise to see your posts. You’ve answered questions I would never have thought to ask, but am thrilled to have the answers to. I’m especially warmed to learn of your family’s favorite Band songs.

There is a question that I think we all would like to ask: Is Robbie really going to write a book?


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Rick In Mind

Rob definitely wrote the songs with Rick, Richard or Levon's voice in mind. What a luxury to have those guys around to bring your words to life!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Apology, Sebastian

Sorry Sebastian. That last post should read 'did your father', not 'did he'.

My original post was too greedy. I had asked too many questions, so I cut them to one, making this question look rude. Sorry.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks, Sebastian

Thanks Sebastian. I'm playing 'Thinkin' Out Loud' a lot just now.

I love the lyrics on 'Thinking Out Loud'. I think it's one of Rick's great tracks. I like the interchange of guitars, piano and voice. Did he always have Rick in mind to sing it?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Sebastian, thanks for the answers.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: I like lists …

Sebastian, your Mom is absolutely right (Moms always are, BTW, it’s their role in life). When asked for a list of five, if you then think of seven favorites, always go for it. Why be ruled by numbers? Very interesting lists. Acadian Driftwood seems a family constant. I think we could all list our favourite RR Band compositions. Mine in order are far less interesting, BUT the fact that they differ so much might be interesting, because it shows the wide range of great material and how many lists you could produce:

1) King Harvest 2) The Weight 3) Daniel and the Sacred Harp 4) Jupiter Hollow (partly thanks to Garth, I think) 5) The Rumor.

Another solo list:

1) Fallen Angel 2) Somewhere Down The Crazy River 3) Breaking The Rules 4) Between Trains 5) Soap Box Preacher.

For me, the second list gets as much play as the first list. Extreme apologies, but this Marvin Gaye fan doesn’t particularly rate the Band’s version of Don’t Do It.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

sadavid: Speaking of anthems, interesting that (Sugar and) Spice's biggest 'hit' was "Cruel War" on the same comp. And didja see the reference to Eddie Vedder's "Big Hard Sun" in the article to which you linked? Good version of a great song for sure, but a great version of the same great song is the original, by Indio (see link), another guy from Hamilton who got Robbie-chum Bill Dillon to play on his record, and one Joni Mitchell to sing on it. (The gospel vamping at the end is courtesy of another former Hamiltonian, Brenda Russell, now doing quite well for having co-written score for "The Colour Purple".)

NB: I got the Boyd under B-Misc in the blues section on the second floor of Sam's two years ago. But as Sam's is no more ... The supreme example of successful Trunh buskers - accepting that Scarborough is indeed in Toronto - is the Barenaked Ladies. While Neil Young was famously accused of singing songs about the subway, I don't know that he ever was caught singing songs down in the subway. You can mostly find me here, though there are maybe 10 liner notes around, some articles in "MapleBlues" magazine, one in "Blues & Rhythm" and one in "Now Dig This".


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Posted by:

Pat B

David P, Winwood certainly spends a lot of time in Nashville. And I believe Clapton is in Ohio.


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Posted by:

David P.

Pat B: The Winwoods have a second home outside of Nashville, as his wife is from Tennessee. He's owned his main big spread in the English countryside since the early days of his career. I believe Eric Clapton has a similar arrangement, as he's also married to an American woman.


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Posted by:

Mike

Love 'em all. "Acadian Driftwood" definitely brings out amazing qualities of all five men.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Web: My link

Subject: fave songs

I believe ZZ asked what my favorite songs by The Band are, so I took it a step further. I asked both of my sisters and my mom to give me their Top 5. Obviously this list is ever-changing so these answers are based on their moods today. Also Rob and Bob are not close any more. No big deal, just separate paths. Personally I'd love to see them tour together."

" Here's the lists- Delphine- Ophelia, Acadian Driftwood, The Weight with The Staples, Don't Do It, Twilight"

" Alexandra- Twilight, It Makes No Difference, Ophelia, Rags And Bones, Acadian Driftwood "

" Mom- The River Hymn, It Makes No Difference, Acadian Driftwood, Dixie Down, Stage Fright, The Shape I'm In, Out Of The Blue "

" Sebastian- Don't Do It (Rock Of Ages), I Shall Be Released, Acadian Driftwood, It Makes No Difference (TLW), Dixie Down "

" As I'm sure you'll see my mom could not hold herself to 5. I held it to 5 but some outsiders that I really dig are The Well, Out Of The Blue, The Last Of The Blacksmiths.


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Posted by:

Pat B

David P, I thought Winwood lived outside Nashville.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Web: My link

Subject: Answers...

Ok. There has been a bunch of questions so I hope I'm answering all of them. For starters, there is some discussion on The Band @ Woodstock being released. There are some legal issues holding it up but I think we will see it in the pretty near future. As far as Robbie releasing anything else from the catalog I'm not sure. This is all I know about. I do know that if there is quality material that can be put out we'd love to do it."

" Storyville was never supposed to be a Band album."

" Dixie Down was written on the piano. And yes, Levon did drive my dad to a book store in Woodstock to buy more study materials for the writing of the lyrics. Levon's input on the lyric writing was pretty brief. He said, "don't talk about Lincoln.""

" Lastly is that NL-SC was written on both piano and guitar. It Makes No Difference was written on the piano, Ophelia was written on the guitar, and Acadian Driftwood was also written on the guitar."

" May 10th Richmond had fell is factually correct, and the source is forgotten. It was a date he read."

" THE BAND album was not on 5.1 Big Pink and TLW are."

" Well I hope that about does it for now. Please spread the word to have people to join The Band on Facebook, and to join Robbie on facebook and on myspace. Thanks all. -S


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Posted by:

David P.

Mike: A Band link to the Traffic is Randall Bramblett, who played woodwinds & keyboards on the '94 reunion tour. In addition to also working on Winwood solo projects, Randall has worked with Levon on tour and with Robbie in "Carny". When Traffic was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Randall sat in on the Hammond when Steve Winwood played guitar on "Dear Mr. Fantasy".


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Echoing the recent GB 'anti-war songs' discussion and occasioned by the Pete Seeger birthday celebrations, see [My link] for a bit of a think piece about how there ain't no anthems anymore. (For what it's worth, "For What It's Worth" is apparently about Curfew rather than War.)

dlew919: You asked about _Raising Sand_. I've tried pretty hard with this one ("all those critics can't be wrong") but we're just not falling in love. It's not you, it's me. The one I DID fall in love with is Emmylou Harris, _All I Intended to Be_. Everlasting love at first sight.

Bill M: re: "Strawberry Wine," Spice version of: I have no idea, but it seems highly unlikely to me. I guess somebody's going to have to actually buy the Franklin comp.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks Bob.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: "Traffic"

Caught the "Traffic" reunion tour w/ "The Subdudes" in Agawam, MA the wkd of the '94 Woodstock. Very cool low-key show.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Traffic

The album takes its name from the Winwood/Capaldi song, which I believe has an ecological theme, viewing the eagle as an endangered species. That fact that the eagle is also a monetary symbol juxtaposes another metaphor of the threat posed by man's greed. Steve Winwood's successful career has afforded him a comfortable life with his family in a very old manor house in the English countryside, where he is also very aware of environment.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Putting My Proboscis Where It's Not Permitted ?

Bill M. Pray tell, how did you get your musically-discerning mittens on a copy of "Beulah Land" ? And asking for the second and final time but doing so in all seriousness, where might one find things you've written about music Bill ? Other than here of course. I'd say we both had the benefit of some excellent English teachers at old Dumbarton High, wouldn't you ?NB

PS. You're five for six on the quiz to this point ! I can't disprove your most recent answer so you were awarded the point. Squandered all the bonus points though. (Start thinking in terms of Trawna Buskers Who Made It Big).


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: Shows Ya How Wrong You Can Be

And here I was thinking Steverino's was a Moo Farm in Bulwer.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Wolfgang's Vault" on "facebook."


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: http://www.sparkjiver.com/

'Scuse the ignorance, but did they have silver dollars (as in "Endless Highway") too? Coins came to mind when I was listening to T-Bone Walker's "Stormy Monday Blues", with its "Eagle flies on Friday" line. Sticking with that image, of payday being when the eagle flies (or shits, in less polite company), there's also Ian Tyson's deft sketch of the young male's priorities ("Eagle flies tomorrow, mosquito biting me today, take a bus to Toronto, Highway 2 all the way, take a walk down Yonge Street, where good times are bought and sold, remember this children if the good lord's willin', live a long long time to get old") and perhaps the Traffic's "When the Eagle Flies" album. Maybe David P can shed more light on whether or not Steve and the boys saw the project as a payday for themselves or the record company.

NB: These days the collection in the car includes three great slices of Canadiana - one an internationally renowned tour-de-force (Mary Margaret O'Hara's "Miss America") and two total obscuros - Peter Boyd's "Beulah Land" and Sparkjiver's first. (Sparkjiver's second, which includes a cover of "The Weight", is something I haven't even been able to find.)


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Posted by:

bob w.

Kevin, having learned a thing or two over the years and knowing my wife is an avid reader as well, I bought the Kindle for her as a gift. I figured the worst case would be she wouldn't like it and it would fall to me. She loves it.

I've spent a fair amount of time browsing in the Kindle store and getting familiar with its features and I have been very impressed. It is a great gadget and we're very happy with our purchase.

Always good to read your posts.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Vivino for Governor

Link.


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Posted by:

David P.

Jan F: We'll probably be playing until 10:00 or 10:30. Steverino's is a laid-back pizza/sub family-friendly restaurant, rather than a hard-core bar like some of the places we've played. The town is having an arts festival this weekend, out on the green behind the place, so we're hoping for a big crowd to keep us playing longer.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Subject: metro D.C.

David - yes, GSU, with honors in Linguistics. We are having an early dinner right after graduation at Five Seasons Brewery b/c Mr. Steve's 88 y.o. mother will be with us (+ my sister who has been very ill) So, I might just take you up on coming out to Duluth! How late you planning on playing? It may be 9-9:30 pm before we can get out there.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: bob w

What a link.....thanks...I sometimes wonder about connecting the whole world but that was an example of 5 minutes of beauty. By the way, did you ever make that purchase of the electronic book? Every time I toss a few books into a bag while heading out for a short road trip I think of that device!


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Posted by:

David P.

Congratulations Jan F. on your son's graduation (from GSU?). If you're looking for a place to celebrate afterwards, my band (the Essentials) will be playing at Steverino's in Duluth (north of ATL) Saturday night beginning at 8:00.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Our "Plochmann Lane" blog now linked from the "Woodstock Record" website under the "Quick Links" section.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Electric Dirt

Mike, thanks for the link to the Electric Dirt page. I just pre-ordered a copy of that one too. Can't wait to hear it!


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: New "Prof. Louie & The Crowmatix" website. Very nicely done.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levonhelm.com's new "Electric Dirt" tab / page.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: ABB

Many thanks, David. I've ordered one too. I would have ordered it just for Levon OR just for Taj, so it'll be a double pleasure.


Entered at Wed May 6 16:42:05 CEST 2009 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Sebastian: Thanks so much for taking a chance on us here on the GB . . . . we (well, most of us) are looking forward to updates on your Dad’s work/collaborations.

Please wish your Mom a very happy Mother’s Day as it seems she and your Dad did an excellent job raising you and I’m sure they are proud of their accomplishment. It couldn’t have been easy bringing up a kid while involved in music and then on the “Hollywood scene” too.

Thanks to Deb for telling me to get back here to see what Sebastian was posting 8-)

I’m off to the ATL to watch RJ graduate from college and help get him ready to move to Japan (do I hear a song coming on?). Last kid out of college --- yay!!

We have agreed to store his vinyl collection (and CDs) at our house while he is away, so now maybe we will learn just how many pieces of vinyl this child has . . .

Jan F.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: ABB - Beacon

David P., Thanks for the heads-up up on the ABB recording from the Beacon show which includes Levon and friends on a couple of tunes. I just pre-ordered a copy!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Deb…….It’s been a while…..great to see your name again…..


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Levon with the Allman Brothers

The Allman Brothers Band are selling CDRs of their recent two-week stand at the Beacon Theater in New York through their website. All 15 shows are available at the hefty price of $500 (!!), but individual shows are $27. Levon, along with Larry, Teresa & Brian, performed with ABB the opening night, 3/9/09 (link above), along with Taj Mahal.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: JQ`

I agree with your contention that 'False Hearted Lover Blues' is a prime example of Levon's drumming - understated, yet dominant. Flashy but not ineffective.... great arrangement of a great song, with a perfect drum part.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Sebastian - as a long time poster here and admirer of the Band and your Dad's work, it has been a refreshing treat to have something of a touch-stone to a member of the Band post here. Yes, there have been some real heated things that have gone on here and at times it has been far from pleasant, yet it all comes from passion for the music. I know at times it may not read so much like that. Thanks for dropping by and I just hope the questions don't become too many or too overwhelming. And I hope that members here can show that respect back as well. I'd love to ask a boat load of questions but will refrain as I can see that they are begninning to come fast and furious.


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Posted by:

Steve

Stop, Lars, stop, please, you're making me weep.

Sebastian, since you chose one of the hot songs of contention, TNTDODD, to hi-lite, maybe you could answer a recurrent question about the writing of the song.

Did Levon really drive your dad to the library to research the facts included in the song?


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

This link may have been posted previously. If so, it is worthy of a repeat. It certainly has me thinking about the power of the technologies we have available to us and the positive potential those technologies hold for the millions who are yet to gain access.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Sebastian--Welcome. I'm so glad you've joined us. If you ignore the occasional controversies (and they've become very rare these days) and, as you say, stick to the music, you'll find a lot of us here ready, willing, and able to rock and roll all night.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I’ll just echo what Jersey Girl, Todd and others have said. It’s wonderful to have input from Sebastian. There are about a million detailed questions (like Pat’s about composing on piano, Storyville, and lyric details like May the tenth) that have been waiting for years, so let’s try and filter them at a reasonable pace.

But there’s anorak one I’ve been holding back. The DVD Audio of Music From Big Pink has a great 5.1 mix by Robbie. Sadly the format’s pretty much died, but was The Brown Album ever done? The joy of DVD-Audio is that it’ll continue to work on DVD players, whereas when my SACD player motor dies (as it inevitably will) that’ll be the end of the format.

I also saw a 1974 show (Wembley) and have been waiting to see Robbie play live again since then. Well, a year ago I’d given up any hope of seeing Leonard Cohen play live, and I have tickets for my third concert in a year for next month.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: There will be peace in the valley…

Actually things have been pretty tame here recently, considering some of the fireworks that we’ve had in the past. I’m not sure if it’s because we’re all getting a little older and wiser and understand the futility of fighting on the Internet…..or if it’s because there’s a few anonymous posters who were really good at pushing people’s buttons who seem to have vanished. Or maybe it’s a combination of influences. Either way there’s been relative peace in the valley for a while now.

It’s always been my feeling that the music that the Band created together is one of the greatest collaborations in 20th century Rock & Roll. Without all five men (& John Simon in the early days) the music just wouldn’t have come out the same. Undoubtedly, there were probably times when the collaboration was not always in balance, and a particular song or period of time during the Band’s run might have displayed the hand of one or more members more heavily than another’s, but it’s my feeling & belief that the best work came out of the process when they were firing on all cylinders and working towards a common goal. I think that Robbie (or Rob as he seems to be going by now) referred to it as the clubhouse. Levon has likened the process to a farmer growing crops. Whether it was Big Pink, or the Pool House, or even Shangri-La to some extent, that method of working produced some of their best work.

I’ve listened to so much Band music over the years, that sometimes I forget just how good these guys were. They set the standard of ensemble playing at such a high level, yet made it seem effortless. Once in a while I’ll put on an album that I may not have listened to in a while, just so I can hear it with fresh ears, and I invariably find it to be stunning….EVERY time. If you’re ever in doubt, just watch the performance of “Slippin’ & Slidin’” from Festival Express or listen to the 1971 live performance from The Royal Albert Hall of ‘Look Out Cleveland’. Then they could turn on a dime, and turn in tender performances like ‘Rockin’ Chair’. They were a force to be reckoned with.

Welcome to Sebastian. It’s always nice to have more input from people who were close to the Band. As Lil said, Garth & Maud have had a presence here for many years. For a while, Ezra was posting. Carol’s posts about Rick are always welcomed, and it’s great to learn things from people who knew these men rather than having to rely solely on books and liner notes. But also, a big thank you also to the many posters who have helped to fill in my knowledge of the Band both pre & post TLW. We are very lucky compared to some other bands that don’t have active communities. The best band AND the best fans.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Sebastian

I echo what Jersey Girl posted. Simply and well said. Thank you for putting up with this crowd. You have shown real class.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: the woods

Subject: it's easy to fall

When I was 15 I racked up my older brother's T-Bird. After having some medical attention they took me to the New Paltz Police Station where I watched two cops argue about how many tickets they could give me. It was the hottest day of that year (1965) and I was sitting there in my bloody shirt feeling really scared and alone. One of the grown ups walked over to the soda machine and bought me a cold soda. I found out later he was a friend of my father's. I never forgot that kindness.

A few years back the little band I sing in had a gig at a little bar in the middle of nowhere. I remember it was in the middle of nowhere because Sredni was in a foul mood that night and he couldn't believe how far we had to drive to get there. He called the ride over "the Bataan Death March." We set up at one end of the bar and I found myself wedged in between the mandolin player and a big doorway. Fortunately everybody's spirits soon picked up and we were doing a Band song when I heard one of the young guys in the crowded doorway singing along. He sounded good. So I took my mic off of the stand and I put it right between us as he leaned in. He helped sing the choruses. When we were done we shook hands and I could tell a little thing like that was really a big deal to him. I heard later that he was really happy.

A couple of weeks ago we had someone new, an old friend of our guitar player, come up on stage to help sing "The Weight." People were checking mics and shifting around to make room for the new guy, and I looked at him and asked him if he wanted a verse. "I've got both the second and the third. How 'bout I keep the second and you take 'Go down Moses,' the third verse?"

That guy used to be part of the band long before I came along, but I didn't know it at the time. Everybody took a turn and it felt really good to be swapping verses and as we got near the end everybody seemed to kind of "glow." I think the audience picked up on it because we got a standing ovation when we were done. Sometimes the best of times come out of nowhere. And it all starts with kindness.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Sebastian, thanks for hanging around and being open to some questions. If I may...

I really loved seeing your Dad play TNTDODD on piano and explaining how he had the music down long before he had the lyrics. After seeing it, I wondered how much he composed on piano/keys and how much he wrote on guitar. It would seem a lot of NLSC was composed on keys. Have you any idea?

Is he through re-visiting The Band catalog? Has he thought about releasing limited editions of some live shows (The 1976 Palladium show, Woodstock, anything pre-ROA perhaps)?

A long-standing rumor: Storyville was supposed to be a Band album. Any truth?

I know this one is a bit arcane, but why did your Dad use "May the 10th, Richmond had fell..." in TNTDODD? Does he recall a source for that? Many here found it interesting because May 10, 1865 is the day President Andrew Johnson declared the Civil War over but Richmond had fallen over a month earlier. It still doesn't detract from what is one of the great songs of that era.

Lil, although Garth and Maud have posted here, I don't believe they have interacted with the assembled to the extent that Sebastian has.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hey Sebastian, if your Dad does perform somewhere I'm near, I'll be there. Last time I saw your dad live was 1974. In a stadium and most of the day was lost on me. Sound system just wasn't good enough for that wall of people. I'd be happy to see Robbie perform in a smallish venue, 3000 or so people.



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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Put Down Jeff

I, like I said, try to convince people you got a brain Jeff......but, how in your little brain, you compute that I inferred in any way that the kid is controlled by his father comes out of your imagination.

You just proved you don't even need to go to sea to be like Mickey Mouse's dog, "Goofy". I sit back here and watch your insesent babbling day after day when I'm home. It's hard to figure who is more warped, you or Steve. Sure proves you got nothing more going on than to keep babbling here.

Well continue, have a good time, and don't worry about my CD, you'll never see it any way. That would be a total waste of time.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Ay yay yay.

Is this a place to discuss the works of The Band and the like? What is the point here? Yikes. As I've scrolled through past posts I've seen some very inflammatory comments towards my dad. I understand that people have big feelings about this and at the end it's the loss of something we all love that can create some anger. However there is NO BAND without each of the five beautifully talented individuals. I believe it would be inappropriate for me to break down the songwriting and publishing splits between the Band members. That's not what this is about. This is about unity. Right? If you're angry with Robbie that is your right, albeit a very difficult and painful pill for me to swallow but one that I have to. All I can hope for is that people continue to spread the word of The Band for the music they made together. NOBODY here knows about this feud. Not even myself. There are layers that none of us could ever imagine. My family wishes Levon and Garth nothing but the best and misses Rick and Richard dearly. Essentially these men went through a divorce so to speak and in the end everyone is hurt. My dad didn't want to tour any more. The rest of the guys did. So that's what happened. I'm hoping that in support of this upcoming record my dad will find it in him to get out there and play some shows. If possible I hope we can stick to interesting questions, anecdotes, thoughts, hopes and most importantly kindness for one another. -Sebastian


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Posted by:

Friend0

Now ya see what happens when you write in haste Tuggy. Here, all along, you , just like me, figured the kid was writing from the heart. But then you go and write what you wrote, and you plant the thought in everyone's head that Robbie's running him, like a operative. The kid seems okay in my book, has a sense of humor and can talk about corned beef on rye. He is his father's son, and we all understand that and he has all the lattitude and privileges a father's son is understood to have. June's approaching fast Norm..... Tug safely

Sebastian, don't let this little eruption here bother you. Norm's been around for bout 4 or 5 years now. He gets punchy when he's on land for too long. You were saying The Band created a masterpiece in TNTDODD..........


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Here we go

If the crap continues you can kiss Sebastian goodbye. Pity, he's like a breath of fresh air. Lil, you are so easy to read!


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Web: My link

Subject: Live Music Alert - Tomorrow Night NYC

Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 9:00 PM
Garth Hudson sitting-in with John Doe & The Sadies (new album release!)
Also playing: Sarah Borges & The Broken Singles

ONLY A FEW SEATS LEFT... MAYBE!!!

City Winery
155 Varick Street (between Spring & Vandam Streets)
New York, New York 10013
(212) 608-0555

See above link for Calendar details... which I should have up shortly...


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Carry On

The "Pointing Out" was unnessary to begin with. Those little jabs have been going on for years, and most definitely are not rational.

Jeff; Very "obviously" the young man is acting on his own. The fact that some folks were enjoying the interaction at that point, doesn't deserve any negativity from any quarter.He is his father's son, and absolutely most welcome by most every one I'm sure. His comments could not have been any more honest and straight forward. And with a warmth and humbleness to them.

Just stick to your corn beef! One of the best things ever. At sea, for a change from sockeye salmon sandwiches, corn beef is my first choice.

We've even made the likeness, with deer meat. Smoke it a little, then let it sit in that brine a good long time, DEVINE! But then........probably not "Kosher" enough for you....yuh Gawd Damn baggle eater!........Now calm down, I'm joking fer chris-sake. I'm leaving for work at 06:30 termarra, try and keep things on an even keel. Do yuh know what that means???


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Posted by:

Friend0

Norman. what you wrote "every time some one may feel good about something from Robbie Robertson" indicates that you think Robbie is directing Sebastian's posts or at least his presence here.

I'm hoping Sebastian is acting of his own volition, without any premeditated purpose or course of action.

Garth and Maud have posted plenty.

Let's keep puffing that peace pipe.


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Posted by:

Lil

Since my post said nothing about Robbie Robertson Norm, your response isn't a real rational one. I'm not sure how pointing out that Garth and Maud have been posting here for years equates for you any kind of "person loathing" on my part.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Behind the Scenes

Lil; It's too obvious, every time some one may feel good about something from Robbie Robertson how your personal loathing surfaces.

Try to control it.


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Posted by:

Lil

Mike wrote: "It is very cool to have Sebastian participating in the "GB" when we do not otherwise have that direct communication here w/ a Band member or family member."

Hmmm.. well perhaps I've been hallucinating, but I could've sworn I've seen Garth and Maud Hudson posting here for years....


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Posted by:

Friend0

Thanks Sebastian. You can tell Pop that Katz's has made a quality come back on Houston St here in NY. For several years, it was poor, but now it's 75% of the way back. Get the right counterman, slip him a few bucks, he'll treat you right. When they know you, they really go all out. I've got two countermen there that spot me walking thru the door.

Best appetizing is right down the street, Russ and Daughter's. If pop is feeling a little extra Jewish, the lake sturgeon is to die for.



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Posted by:

Sebastian

Web: My link

Subject: The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down

Man! How incredible is Levon's vocal on Dixie Down!!! Obviously I'm biased but I think this might be one of the greatest rock n roll vocal performances ever. My dad was really intrigued with Levon's life and the Americana history. Never has a song been so perfectly written for someone to sing. At the time Rob and Levon were best friends. What a great gift to give each other.


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Posted by:

z

Location: Further away now... walking toward my daughter... with a stolen apple from the sapling... she wants me to read some Nancy Drew now...

Psst, Weegie's got an album out too... so hold onto the sides of those canoes... because he gets LOUD!...


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Sebastian

Sebastian. Please disregard any asshole comments that you probably knew would surface. Right on Jersey Girl. Couldn't have said it better myself. My own two cents are "Any problems between Levon and Robbie are just that. Between them and them alone. Period" Thanks for coming on the site.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Hey ZZ

I'll ask about Caledonia Mission and get back to you with Rob's answer. I'll answer the other questions at that time too. cheers!


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Deli talk.

Hey Friend0- Rob is absolutely a lean corned beef guy on rye with mustard. That's about as far as he takes the judaism though ;)


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Location: Just one big Z here... plus the kidzzz... no Chris in GB-land...

Cool about the Rock album, Seb... Thanks for sharing!... Actually, it's kind of exciting that all three remaining Band members have major albums on the horizon... Let's hope for such a groundswell that the rising tide raises all canoes!... Lars, KungFooShish says... Count not the hairs upon the head of the white elephant on the album cover... lest you fail to notice the sapling that is not to be climbed... before mastering the piano... (always with a spotter too... but probably not Billy, eh...)


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Posted by:

Friend0

Rob The Organ in England,

Are you pissed (inebbriated) yet?

We probably agree.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Sebastian

Sebastian, your posts here have done more than answer questions we've all longed to be able to ask your dad. More importantly, the graciousness and maturity of your responses appears to have ushered in a long overdue atmosphere of good faith and fellowship to this guestbook, which has in the past been far too fractured. We're all devoted Band fans, and your participation here seems to have reminded us of what we share. I hope the atmosphere your posts have ushered in will continue. Thank you, and please convey our thanks to your father, whose life's work has brought so much pleasure to so many of us.


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Posted by:

Friend0

So Sebastian, Hopefully you don't mind my asking, but if it is okay to ask, does Robbie have any relationship to Judaism, or to his Jewish heritage? Does he enjoy a good corned beef sandwich, or is he more a brisket or pastrami guy? Russian dresing and cole slaw, or mustard?


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Posted by:

Deb

Nicely said, Kevin J. For those who aren't familiar with the form, that was an exchange between two gentlemen. Thanks Sebastian, for the information you've provided here as well as the Facebook and Myspace sites.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Reel Basement Tapes

Pat B: Sounds more like a matter of possession, rather than legal ownership. As I recall, there are rumors about former member(s) of The Band's circle acquiring one or more of the master (stereo) reels.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

While Charlie Y blows a fuse when witnessing the rudeness of a person on a cell phone at a check-out counter - I understand exactly where he is coming from………On the other hand...it is really refreshing to see an interchange like that between Lars and Sebastian on a touchy subject handled with dignity on both sides….kind of gives one hope that the world is not completely falling apart…………….


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Heylin looks in the mirror and sees the Big Pink

According to his publisher, "Clinton Heylin is recognized as the world's leading Bob Dylan scholar, as well as an authority on folk music and popular music in general." Clear thinking seems not to be his strong suit, unfortunately. I don't see how the nationality of a tape owner gets to be a worry, unless said owner was resident in some troubled or war-torn country where the tape couldn't be protected by anyone, prick or not. Given his interests and contacts, I'd think that Heylin has an important American musical artifact or two at his home far away across the ocean.


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Posted by:

Pat B

From Rolling Stone Magazine, author Andy Greene, 4/30/09. In an article about Clinton Heylin's new book "Revolution in the Air: The Songs of Bob Dylan", there's a paragraph about the BT's "Sign on the Cross" (1967). To quote: This seven-minute biblically inspired epic from the Basement Tapes is only available on bootleg..."They lost the reel it was on and found it years later," Heylin says. Will the complete Basement Tapes ever be officially released? "What worries me is that many of the master tapes are now owned by a Canadian fan of the Band," Heylin says. "He might be a prick and not give them up."

I'm curious how a "Canadian fan" can own a Bob Dylan master reel.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Sebastian

Sebastian, thanks very much. What about an appearance in Britain by your old man to promote the CD?

I posted before that there would be nothing I would like better to see than 'An Evening with Robbie Robertson'.

You could be on drums.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: The Band on "iLike."


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The woods

Subject: Let It Be

Actually, Sebastian....I'm surprised you even took the time to address my question.

I think you summed it up for me and many other Band fans: we all love The Band and ALL of its members. I've met Levon, but that doesn't mean I know him. The same with Garth. And Rick, rest his soul. I'm just a fan who has a weakness for romanticism. It would be great if all the people we love would love each other, but in real life we have to accept the way things are. I was just giving it a shot.

All the best to you.


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Posted by:

ZZ

Hey Sebastian, it's really cool to see you posting and responding to questions. I truly think your father is a genius and possibly my favorite guitar player and songwriter. I wanted to ask, what are your favorite Band songs? Is Robbie still close with Bob Dylan? Why didn't he do interviews for No Direction Home? And, whats Caledonia Mission about? Best wishes!


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Posted by:

Mike

It is very cool to have Sebastian participating in the "GB" when we do not otherwise have that direct communication here w/ a Band member or family member. We are fortunate to have the occasional posts by Band webmasters & associates (i.e - Jan, Carol, Dave Z & Tony LoBue). The last 24-hrs have been very cool to have Sebastian participate in dialog & question answering from a group of true Band fans who probably have many burning inquiries. Check out his "facebook" & "Myspace" pgs as he is very active there as well.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Lars...

Now you've done it Lars! You've asked the question that was on everyone's mind. I hope the flood gates haven't been opened. As far as Levon saying he would pick up Rob from the airport any time I'm afraid I am unaware. As far as burying the hatchet is concerned I believe this is more or less up to Levon. As we all know Levon was invited to and didn't participate in the Canadian and the Rock and Roll Hall OF Fame ceremonies for The Band. As an insider I can simply say this was a sad moment for my dad. I think he believed this would be a chance for them to come together but unfortunately it was not. I will not get into a debate about royalties but it's pretty clear who has continued to write songs and who has used outside writers. I love The Band and all its members. However personalities clash and when you're in a close knit relationship and in close quarters for so long I think we've all seen that these resentments, disagreements, whatever you chose to call them arise. Hopefully this is helpful.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Slippin' & Slidin'

Steve: Yes, I use the spark plug length socket, which I wear on the pinkie finger. Since I play in standard tuning, this gives me the ability to fret with the other fingers with ease. On occasion, I sometimes use a glass Coricidin pill bottle, the type that Duane Allman used. At my last gig Saturday night, I used my Fender Texas Special Strat with a small Vox AD30VT amp, miked through the PA with an old reliable Shure 57.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Sebastian, it ain't my place to say, but marketing that new album under the name Rob Robertson, might be a little confusing and risky. Everyone knows him as RR.

Marketing RR as just plain old Robertson, however, may add another dimension. :-) And it sounds sort of institutionalized too.

:-)


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P / Steve: Boy, Martin Mull could teach you guys a thing or two about how a real bluesman plays a slide guitar. Oh, baby!


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Posted by:

Lars Pedersen

Location: The woods of southern Ulster County

Subject: The Band

SEBASTIAN- I fully realize I'm about to enter a sensitive area, but there's a 10 foot gorilla in the room that probably should be ignored. Nevertheless, I'm going to break precedent after 13 years in this GB of not bringing up the subject of "The Feud" (the apparent falling out between Levon and Robbie).

"The Feud" has been described as the disappointment of Levon over the royalties for the composition of Band music. Levon has talked about it numerous times in public venues. Rob has not said much more than simply he wrote the songs. I'm not in any position to question royalties and I really don't care--it's none of my business. But I believe there are a lot of Band fans who would like to see Levon and Robbie "bury the hatchet" and perform together just one more time.

My question is: is there any truth to the story that sometime in the 1990's Levon & Robbie talked on the phone about a brief "visit" and Levon told Robbie that he would pick him up at any New York airport, any time? Would Robbie be willing to see Levon if Levon was receptive? Or aren't you at liberty to say?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: another cover of "Strawberry Wine"?

David P: sadavid may want to chip in here with confirmation or correction, but I believe that the "Strawberry Wine" that appeared on a 1971 45 by the Winnipeg group Spice is the same as the song by our guys. And now that it's been comped (see link), it probably deserves a place in Jan's discography.


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Posted by:

Steve

David, I assume you're using an extended ( spark plug length) Craftsman 5\8 socket as oppose to the regular short socket. 3/8's or the big-boy 1/2 inch drive? Up here in Canada land I use a 19mm, Craftsman. The socket being the only craftsman involved when I play.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Jesse & Clarence

The Jesse Ed Davis album that Bill mentioned, "Ululu, features a cover of "Strawberry Wine". I believe he's the only artist to have covered that Helm/Robertson song.

Marty Stuart's cover of "The Shape I'm In" features Clarence White's prototype Telecaster stringbender. Mr. Stuart purchased the guitar from Mr. White's widow in the early '80s. I'm not sure, but he may have also used it on the cover of "The Weight" that he recorded with the Staple Singers. According to the sessionography that Charlie posted, Clarence White may have played on Freddy Weller's fine 1970 cover of "Up On Cripple Creek".


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Posted by:

Friend0

That sounds interesting Sebastian.

Thanks for the reply.


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Posted by:

Calvin

Agreed Peter-Winwood and Robbie? That's an amazing combination. Frankly I've been pretty bored with Clapton for well over 20 years and if memory serves the last new album I bought of his was August. Still, having a Robbie album with Eric and Steve guesting on different tracks sounds like a lot of fun. As is Sebastian's idea of those OOP sountrack tracts on a bonus disk.

A Levon album in the summer and a Robbie album currently in the works. Now that has the making of a good upcoming year.

I've been mining some lesser know performers of late. Fred Neil reentered my radar for the first time in well over a decade and I've discovered a guy named Joesph Arthur who oddly enough would have started playing around Akron about 20 years ago, which is about the time I hung up by Bass (outside of the Basement) and played out the next to the last time, also in Akron.

Its gets harder to find people you havent heard of though.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Sebastian

Thank you for all the info and followups. Until recently, sometimes it seemed we were posting in a vacuum. Questions were posed, but not necessarily answered. It's great to have answers in almost "real time".I'm looking forward to some great new music.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Steve Winwood? Wow. That's excellent news. Something of a dream collaboration.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Rob and Eric (Friend0)

Well, unfortunately the original concept for the album has been scrapped. At first it was going to be a true collaborative effort, sharing guitar leads, songwriting, singing etc. Steve Winwood was also going to handle the keys. Due to personal reasons Eric had to gracefully bow out of the project. So at this point Rob is handling the majority of the songwriting and Eric and Stevie will be making appearance as players and singers on certain tracks. For those who are ready for a "ROCK" album from Rob this will not disappoint.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you Sebastian. Appreciate the follow-up and looking forward to next year's new solo release.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Charlie Y: Ex-Hawks Stan Szelest and Sandy Konikoff were both on Jesse Ed's second album, and Sandy was on "Motel Shot" too - so a link to Clarence White if White's participation is confirmed. Also, re the Clarence White discography, among the records that aren't there are a series of budget LPs that Gary Paxton produced in circa '67/'68 using a studio group that consisted of Clarence White, Jerry Sheff, Mike Cannon and Canuckistani guitarist Hugh Brockie, later of the David-Foster led group of Hawks that evolved into Atkinson, Danko and Ford then Bearfoot. Right after that, White, Sheff and Brockie spent a couple more months doing budget albums for the Alshire label.

Kevin J: Thanks for the link to "Say It Ain't So Joe", as song that I too love. It reminds me of another big-production of the day, the magnificent "(They Call Me) Sebastian" by Steve Harley and Cockney Rebel.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Thanks Charlie for posting the Clarence White link. That was Jesse Ed Davis playing on "Doctor My Eyes" (see link above for more details about the late-great Mr. Davis.

As my friend & I have returned to playing gigs recently, we've been polishing up our repertoire. A week or so ago we got an audience request for some Neil Young and did "Ohio". That same night we also worked in "Doctor My Eyes" and it was a challenge for me to attempt those solos with my 5/8 Sears Craftsman socket slide.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: hero's

So does that make me a hero of Watkins Glen?


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Posted by:

Coffee Al

Location: East End Long Island

Bethal Woods Center for the Arts-Heroes Of Woodstock show-tickets go on sale May 8 at 10am-real good line up. Love the title "Heroes Of Woodstock" didn't know i was a hero for going there???


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: The Great Satan's Little Brother

That's us. David, while "The Great Satan" is the name hung on your country by Iran's Ruhollah Khomeini, I like the name , "The Great Satan's Little Brother", when referring to our country's involvement in torture.

While your country, Syria, Egypt, Ethiopia and others get right in there with the cattle prods, our country likes to be in the room when your gov't and the others mentioned are torturing our citizens with a short list of questions we'd like answered while you're extracting info.

The Canadians who carry out this task always remain where they can't be seen by the victim to help give the gov't a little bit of deny ability.

For some reason the Canadian "intelligence" people don't hand over the list of questions but always seem to be in the room. Maybe they just like to watch.


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Posted by:

Steve

David, I'm making a note to self: Self never bring up classical music again, it will inevitably lead to Nazism. Note made.

I can't blame you for dodging the " Condemnation Of God Motion" though I would have backed you up, remember that offer is still there. How about a simple motion to condemn all gov'ts that torture or kill prisoners. I'll back you on that motion, of course.

Yesterday I heard a great live, solo, acoustic version of Ohio by Neil on the 39th anniversary of the killings at Kent State. Sounded like a young, Young so probably an early 70's recording. I hadn't realized that the song was originally banned from radio play in the US for mentioning Nixon by name.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hi Sebastian,

I was looking forward to the fruits of the most recent RR/EC collaboration. I was hoping that it might have some oompf, where i felt the JJ/EC project had zilch.

Has that project been completely scrapped, or just put on hold? Or, has some amount of material been completed that might soon or evenutally see the light of day?


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Deep cuts

Cool list Peter V. King Of Comedy and Carny never made it to CD. Rob will be releasing a new solo CD next year. It might be an opportunity to compile some of these tracks for a bonus CD. FYI it's Slo Burn. The Jimmy Hollywood soundtrack was a great father son bonding experience for us as I played drums on Bad Intentions and Let The Good Times Roll. It's nice to know that people are interested in these lesser known tracks and I'm sure it will make my dad feel good too. All the best, Sebastian


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Between trains etc

Sebastian: Way back in the archives there was a series of discussions about Robbie’s movie work. Between Trains was seen as the centrepiece. One of the then regulars even privately circulated a CDR with a suggested tracklist. It ran:

The Fat Man (Carny)

The Garden of Earthly Delights (Carny)

Between Trains (King of Comedy)

Modern Blues (Color of Money)

Ghost Dance (Any Given Sunday II)

Out of the Blue (Any Given Sunday II)

Christmas Must Be Tonight (Scrooged)

Pagan Knight (Carny)

Wonderful Remark (King of Comedy) – production, guitar

So Burn (Jimmy Hollywood)

Bad Intentions (Jimmy Hollywood)

Freak’s Lament (Carny)

Let The Good Times Roll (Jimmy Hollywood)

The Far Lonely Cry of Trains (Jimmy Hollywood)

Carry Me (Any Given Sunday II)

Rained Out (Carny)

Crazy Love (Phenomenon)

The Main Title (The Color of Money)

Amazing Grace (Any Given Sunday II)

Even the sleeve was nice Robbie and Marty on the back, Carny on the front. Don’t worry, it had an extremely limited circulation just among the few people who got engaged in the discussion and was about 8 or 9 years ago, so frozen at that point. "Shine A Light" is the most obvious later addition, but there must be more including unreleased stuff.

At that time, Raging Bull hadn't been remastered, and track details were confined to the end credits. So that adds at least three "produced and arranged by" featuring Garth and Richard:

At Last

A New Kind of Love

Webster Hall

The Carny stuff was never on CD. I don’t think King of Comedy was either.


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Posted by:

Friend0

I got to see Jesse Ed Davis with John Trudell at St Ann's Church in Brooklyn Heights. This was the Grafitti Man period. The term great show doesn't do it justice.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Web: My link

Subject: Jesse Ed Davis & Clarence White

I wish there were a discography for Jesse Ed Davis like the one I've linked here for Clarence White. The other day I heard Jackson Browne's classic "Doctor My Eyes" and admired the spare, perfect guitar solo. I think it was Jesse Ed Davis on that track, though Clarence White also worked on those sessions. George Harrison was a fan of Jesse Ed Davis, and he knew a great guitarist when he heard one.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: As I recall, Jesse Ed Davis also briefly played with The Hawks' old friend Conway Twitty. Another further link. Steve: Since you were trying to broaden our horizons with a classical music reference, I assumed you were aware of the von Karajan controversy and his association with Mr. Zimerman's career. You opened that door.


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Sebastian

Web: My link

Subject: Hey Kevin J

I get a lot of interest in that song. I'll be sure and let my dad know. Thanks.


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Posted by:

bob w.

I wonder if Dylan enjoyed Roy Buchanan's guitar playing talents?


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Posted by:

Steve

David, you didn't mention, Von What's His Name, was a Nazi, lets try and be more forthcoming in the future. Is there anything else you want to tell us about him.

Maybe something important like he hung out with that other young Nazi, the current Pope. Think we should condemn all Catholics while we're at it?

Holy fuck, the Pope is God's rep on earth. Do you think that we should condemn god while were playing guilt by association.

You make the motion and I promise to second it. Promise, really, but you make the motion.

Then maybe we should name and shame all musicians who've ever played under Von What's His Name's baton, that is , if we survive the god condemnation motion.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Say it Ain't So Joe

Bill's mention of Ralph McTell's "Streets of London" got me thinking of Murray Head for some reason. The above is a link to one of my favorite songs of the 70's. Funny how I had never noticed how much Murray Head looks like Stevie Winwood...........


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: A bit of googling should get you info on Levon's days in LA after he left Dylan. They involve him gigging with people like Jesse Ed, Roger Tillison and Leon Russell. Tillison's website used to have something about it too, I believe.


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Posted by:

bob w.

I can't think of a prominent guitarist who hasn't cited Roy Buchanan's guitar work as inspirational. Jeff Beck idolized him.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: From Bacon Fat to Leon Russell's Plantation

Peter: There's a 1965 link with Levon and Leon Russell & the Tulsa gang of musicians that included Jesse Edwin Davis (see link above to Lee Gabites' interview with Levon). It's quite possible that Davis could have heard The Hawks perform the song or heard a tape. Another Tulsa musician Roger Tillison also recorded "Get Up Jake" on his 1971 s/t album, which also featured Mr. Davis. So there was evidently some musical cross-pollination going on.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Between Trains

Sebastian: In checking out the link that you posted, I noticed a question that someone had about your father’s great song “Between Trains” and this got me to thinking about how much I wish there was some type of release of this and other tunes that were recorded but not released on a soundtrack or solo disc. After all these years – is there not some way to get “Between Trains” – perhaps as a bonus track to RR’s new solo release?


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Posted by:

John W.

Some performers from the 1969 Woodstock concert are getting back to the garden for a 40th anniversary show this summer. The Levon Helm Band, Jefferson Starship, Big Brother and the Holding Co., Ten Years After, Canned Heat, Mountain and Country Joe McDonald will be on the bill Aug. 15 at Bethel Woods Center for the Arts. The center was built on the site of the old dairy farm northwest of New York City that was trampled under by some 400,000 people on the weekend of Aug. 15-17, 1969. It includes an amphitheater and a museum up the hill from the original stage. The returning acts feature some Woodstock veterans, including Helm, who performed in '69 with The Band.


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Posted by:

Bill M

"The Messiah Will Come Again" is to Roy Buchanan as "The Streets Of London" is to Ralph McTell. The one song alone says "Greatness Within", and nothing more really needs to be said.


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Posted by:

David P.

In a recent interview Fred Carter Jr. also mentioned turning his back to Robbie as he watched him play.

Steve: Nice try, but Mr. von Karajan's membership in the Nazi party, whether driven by conviction or opportunity, speaks for itself, when other artists chose to leave in protest. Also, being known as a favorite of Herman Goring is certainly not a treasured accolade.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: More than that.......

Peter: You are being unfair in stating that Roy Buchanan would have been relegated to obscure sideman had it not been for a single quote from RR. Really. Granted, his 70’s output is not memorable but I still listen to his later Alligator recordings which are great. But besides all of that, he did have a huge radio hit with “The Messiah Will Come Again” and had many superstars of the day (including John Lennon) falling over themselves to praise him. Not the stuff of an obscure sideman ………


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Posted by:

Peter V

We crossed in the ether. I guess you have to be a guitarist to appreciate what makes Buchanan so special. To me, it's not how hard or clever the playing is, but what it gets across, and that can be relatively easy. As you'll know, Sebastian, Jesse Ed Davis said the same about Robbie, how he'd stand at the front of the stage in Oklahoma and marvel at The Hawks, trying to work out how Robbie was playing what he was.

BTW, no one ever found out how Bacon Fat got to Taj Mahal (and Jesse Ed Davis) so early on. The only (?) Robertson-Hudson co-writing credit and on a well-regarded Taj Mahal album. How?


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Steve

David, since he's not coming back to the US you probably won't be able to ask him face to face and I wouldn't venture a guess on his behalf of course, but lots of people did lots of non Nazi activities in Germany during WW2 that they probably don't have to apologize for, conducting orchestras being one of them unless of course he was helping whip up nutty Nazis into a world conquering frenzy. What a long freakin sentence that was , I must rest now.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks for the link, Sebastian. Opportune as it comes on a day when we're discussing influences on guitar!

As I said, I went out and bought Roy Buchanan albums after he'd been heavily praised by Robbie as an influence. they're all nicely played, but more than a bit dull, proving forever that technique isn't a substitute for creativity. I last played one when we last discussed him a couple of years back, and there was probably a 20 year gap before that. Curtis Mayfield, on the other hand, a month can't go by without me playing something by him. A First Division guitarist, songwriter and singer compared to a merely highly proficient journeyman guitarist with a couple of special twists of his own. Buchanan is not in the same league as Mayfield, or Pop Staples or a hundred others. His biggest favour in life was Robbie's Rolling Stone quote. Without it he'd be "completely unknown", which doesn't mean that he was not a very good sideman. He was. Just a boring frontman though with some dull albums I wouldn't have missed if I'd never heard them.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie VS. Roy

When my dad started playing with Ronnie and Roy was around he really looked up to him. Occasionally Roy would give him a guitar lesson backstage. The one condition that Roy had was that his back would be turned so Rob couldn't see his finger work. I love that idea. Willing to share but not too much :) I think the album is called "ROY BUCHANAN" and on it he does a studio version (not live) of Hey Joe and it is without a doubt the greatest guitar work I've ever heard. My dad and I would listen to it and simply laugh in amazement.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Web: My link

Subject: The Band on facebook

Hello Band fans- My name is Sebastian and I am Robbie Robertson's son. I recently setup a facebook page for The Band and for Rob and just wanted to reach out and give you the links. My pops is participating as far as answering questions and occasionally sending out updates. We've also given away autographs, blu ray's, dvd's, CD's and posters through fun online contests. Thanks for your time. Here's the links... THE BAND http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/THE-BAND/49920330748?v=feed&story_fbid=67768524334 ROBBIE http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Robbie-Robertson/71984363856?ref=mf


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Classsical Gas

Steve: I would be interested to know what Kristian Zimerman thinks about his performances with conductor Herbert Von Karajan. The Austrian conductor evidently had little compunction about conducting orchestras in Nazi Germany during the early years of WWII.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

In an unsuccessful google expedition on Bashful B's behalf, I find the above Robbie-vs-Roy link. I'm sure Danny Gatton rates a mention there too.

Kevin J and Charlie Y: Looks like as we age we go from thinking about taking a girl to a bar to thinking about taking a key fob to a garage.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Bill: I hear there's a little keychain device on the market that is a stealth TV remote which works on any TV, but the only fuction it handles is turning the thing OFF. I have to get one of those.

As for Roy Buchanan, I have a copy of the PBS documentary about him and several of his recordings, but for my money DC's Danny Gatton was truly "the world's best unknown guitarist," the Telecaster master.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Roy Buchanan - Bob Dylan

Bill M: You're welcome. I saw Troiano play many times but regret naver having seen Roy Buchanan - especially since I had a few opportunities to just literally walk a few blocks to do so. Somehow talking to a girl at a bar was more important at the time. Oh well....I do think of Roy whenever I practise certain things like circle picking....

BB: During the time when Robbie Robertson was promoting his first solo record ( 1987 ? ), he would make mention of Roy Buchanan in many of the interviews he did and in at least a few he talked about going to see Roy live during this period ( both in Toronto and Montreal – I believe ) and how great it was. Usually the reference would stem from the interviewer asking about influences and to name some players that that he was impressed with. Invariably, Robbie would talk about Roy and make the point that after having been around him there really wasn’t much anyone else could do to impress him. About as a high a compliment any musician can lay on another…..

TLW: Dylan spent hours back stage trying on different hats while his management spent hours in a tizzy over cameras that just might record some music…….all the while The Band’s hands were bleeding from having played 6 hours straight…….I doubt anyone cared what mood the B. Dylan may have been in when he walked onto the stage that night……..


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Posted by:

Bill M

NB: Anything's possible, but Neil Young setting taking up residence in the TeePee seems unlikely. When he was in the Mynah Birds they had moneyed backers and lots of cool friends downtown to flop with. So why the boonies? Rick James seems a bit more likely - no money, no legal status in Canada upon his return from the naval brig, and he was in Bay Ridges anyway to chat with fellow Mynah Bird Rick Mason ... But at the time the sight of any black person in Pickering would have caught people's eye, and the thought of such a person coming and going at a very obvious theatre building located at a very obvious spot seems far-fetched - unless it was just a place to crash for a single night. (Most of us did similar in our younger days, I'm sure.) As for the Lazy River Ranch, that seems highly unlikely for similar reasons - why rehearse in a crappy barn in Pickering when all of Yorkville would happily have you and your managers are loaded? I don't know that the 'ranch' had plumbing in the mid '60s, and even electricity to the barn is not something I'd've assumed. Plus there were NO houses on the west side of Dixie for the full mile between Finch and the 'ranch' and only four and a school down the east side - so nothing as revolutionary as the arrival of Yorkville musicians would have passed unnoticed by the 'neighbourhood'.

Bashful B: Must've been '86 or '87 when I saw Roy Buchanan at Harbourfront. I read much later, in a US magazine story I believe, an article by a journalist who mentioned being with Robertson at a Buchanan performance at Harbourfront, have to think it was his only concert there.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: False Hearted Lover Blues

Does anybody else think this track is a good example of Levon's drumming style? And any thoughts about how his unique approach adds so much to any tune? Like with The Weight?


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill(again)

Location: Minoa, NY(still)

Subject: Bill M (again)

Oh yeah, I'd like to hear more about that Roy Buchannan show in Toronto - when was it? & how did you hear that RR was there?


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Bill M

I've had a lot of live music highs&lowsover the decades, but I was reminded of 2 by Bill's post. I saw Taj Majal in the very early 70's, I'd say 71 or 72, 73 at the very latest but I dont think it was that far along in th 70's yet. A smallish room, maybe 100 hippies /SU students. I hardly knew eho he was at the time but I felt like I was walking out of church after the show, & the several people I knew who were there all felt the same. Afew years ago I was talking with someone I'd just met & it turned out she'd been there too & she ranks that show as her favorite live music experience. She said it was the 1st time music made her cry. Flash forward to just about exactly 2 years ago when I saw Kris Kristofferson play solo at a nearby casino. I'd seen him 3 times previously over several decades, but he was like ina zone that night & the audience was almost worshipful. I recollect feeling literally akin to a spiritual feeling listening to the world-weary lyrics of some of those songs coming out of a 70 year-old man's mouth but recalling how I used to listen to his records & thinking that he's written those words when he was in his early 20's. I was going through some life events at the time - it took me a good 3 years to recover from the end of my marriage & for most of those 3 years I wasnt sure that I'd ever recover, despite my brave front. I've thought this may have been why that show affected me so deeply but I paid close attention & that room was in the same place as me. UNTIL.....about 2/3 through the show he did Sunday Mornin Comin Down& unfortunately a table full of yay-hoos couldnt handle the " "wishin I was stoned" chorus & they hooted&hollered every time it came up. I was sitting about 30 or 40 feet away from him& I watched him get pulled put of whatever place he's gotten himself into & also tried&failed to get himself back in because of those assholes. He grimaced after the song was over & neither him nor the room really got back on the track. I took my girlfriend to see him just afew weeks ago in the same room & told her the story & hoped the same idiots wouldnt be there. But one person- ONE person did the same thing, she had to HOOT when he did that line & she was sitting at my table. About 400 people in that room & ashe sat at my table. Heh! Aint life grand......


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Squatters at the TeePee Drive-In

Though I tore around that so-called ranch as a kid I don't know the following as facts, but I'm told by my older bro' (who's Levon's age) that both Neil Young and Rick James used the Drive-In as a residence and the Lazy River Ranch "barn" as a rehearsal hall. That Rick James article you referenced recently mentioned another Mynah Bird living in Bay Ridges, which lends credence to what I've been told. Bill, you'll notice the Lazy River is exerting its influence on me as I appear to be issuing my quiz only one item at a time, ie. by installments. Oh well, Dickens seemed to have a modicum of success publishing that way. NB


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Zimmy Ain't Playing The USA Anymore

Polish classical pianist Christian Zimmerman, recognized by many as the greatest classical pianist of his generation, announced at a concert last week in the US that he'd no longer be coming to play there because of its abuse of human rights at places like Gitmo and other prisons where people are tortured and sometimes killed. He also asked the US to keep its hands off his country, Poland, where plans are moving ahead to install a US missile defense system . Damn, wrong Zimmy. Well, a little classical music reference may broaden our musical horizons a tiny bit, and that has to be a good thing.

About that other Zimmy and his break with J2RS, just watch Bob's entrance on the stage at TLW and the dirty look directed straight at J2RS when Zimmy realizes Robertson has out classed him in the super cool apparel accoutrement department.

Dylan's, Queen Elizabeth Two, knock-off, garden party hat just didn't grab the public's attention that the BIG PINK SCARF did. If looks could kill!!!!!


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Peter Gunn

I'm pathetically unmusical, but one thing I learned to play on piano and clarinet, is the Peter Gunn Theme.

C C D C E C F E


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Peter Gunn

Kevin J: Thanks so much for the link. Great stuff. The oddest thing, though. I was going to post a few minutes ago about having seen Buchanan once - in a smallish room at Harbourfront in Toronto, where he moved into the audience and the audience (which included Robbie Robertson, I learned later) formed a circle around him, perhaps a shared compulsion to be both respectful and protective. I have no memory of what songs he played, but I do want to note that the only other time I've seen that sort of feeling at work was seeing Domenic Troiano play some years later - when just about everyone knew he was in his final couple of years - and what he was playing was the "Peter Gunn" theme too.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Some Roy Buchanan live.....


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Posted by:

abby

I'm just now reading that John Martyn story that Dunc linked, and I swear half way thru the story I had a sensation of pot smoke here in my office at the university.... Hey, smell is my most vivid of all senses. (I AM A HUMAN BEING....I AM NOT AN ANIMAL!) Anyway, they must've been smoking dope in that room too.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Roy Buchanan

Roy Buchanan bounced around for many years as a sideman, playing with both Dale & Ronnie Hawkins, Bob Luman and others, before he got his big break through a 1971 PBS profile "The Best Unknown Guitarist in the World". I remember reading an early Guitar Player article about him that mentioned that his pinched harmonic technique was featured on a 1962 single "Potato Peeler", recorded under the name Bobby Gregg & His Friends. Ironically, I guess this is the same Bobby Gregg who was one of the replacement drummers on the Dylan / Hawks tour after Levon left. And we all know that pinched harmonic technique also became one of Robbie's signatures.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Charlie Y: Maybe the guy already has one - hence the behaviour? Also, you might try taking a woman with you when you get your tires changed at the place with the TV. I can pretty much guarantee that she'll be able to sashay up to the screen and change channels without incident. You might not want to try this yourself unless you're more frightening-looking than I'm assuming.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Robbie on Roy

Charlie Y: Great Post.....agree completely......

Robbie on the late great Roy Buchannan as told to Rolling Stome:

"When I was playing with Ronnie Hawkins, Ronnie brought in this guitar player, Roy Buchanan. Roy played with Dale Hawkins, Ronnie's cousin. And Roy's attitude was like a gunslinger coming to town: The Axman Cometh.

Roy had a command over the guitar that I couldn't comprehend. He bent the neck; he bent the strings behind the bridge. He played with both hands on the fingerboard. He used every ornament on the thing to get a noise out of it. It was like the guitar came to life. It started speaking.

I had so many questions for him. And you couldn't get a straight answer out of him. One night, I said, "There is something about you and this instrument that I don't understand." And he said, "I'll tell you what it is. I'm actually half-wolf. It's a complicated thing, but my mother and the wolf . . .

The next night, we were playing -- Roy was doing this gunslinger thing on me and he became the wolf. Finally, Ronnie Hawkins came to the conclusion that Roy was too weird and spooky to deal with.

Because Roy was such a complicated person, he never played with anybody where he could be shown in his proper light. I remember hearing years ago that the Rolling Stones were talking to him, wanting to try him out, and he didn't even show up."


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: The Boob Tube

David: I love that quote from Hunter S. Thompson about TV. His line about it being everywhere--"you can't get away from it'--was truly prophetic. I refuse to wait for my car oil change at my local tire dealer since they continually have Fox News running. My dentist has some cable TV gardening channel in front of my eyes in a ceiling-mounted screen and last night at the Thai restaurant I hadn't visited in a while a flat-screen TV had been mounted near their bar, running a bizzare travel show featuring naked natives of some jungle village.

It seems the new generation can't actually have a conversation with another human face-to-face anymore. Yesterday I was in line at the supermarket purchasing that endangered item, a printed newspaper (I get two delivered to my home but have to drive somewhere to buy a NEW YORK TIMES) and the guy in front of me spoke as he was looking at the cashier,"so you watched the Capitals last night, did ya?" The cashier gave him a bemused smile and said,"Excuse me?" He said, "I'm not talking to you" and went back to his conversation into the Lt. Uhura-like device clipped onto his ear, snapping, "Yep, there's nothin' I like better'n watchin' the Capitals, 'cept watchin' the Redskins." Now I FINALLY know the sort of really important information being imparted by people with those things clipped to their ears. What a shame it would be if they caused brain tumors. What a loss to our "culture," killing off rude assholes like that guy...


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Posted by:

Bill M

NB: While I do recall the TeePee Drive-In (where I saw "The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes" and "1001 Dalmatians") and the Bay Ridges Drive-In ("Those Magnificent Men and Their Flying Machines"), I had no idea of any musical connections - either concerts or squatters.

Peter V: Is your reference to Roy Buchanan playing bass with our guys based only on his place in the "Bo Diddley" lineup in the notes to the Sequel comp, which I believe is BS? My guess is that Robbie would've known Buchanan's work from records, and that their paths may have crossed when they were working for the cousins Hawkins respectively, but I think Fred Carter was a much bigger influence, all in all, as David P suggests. To Curtis Mayfield I'd add Roebuck Stapes and, more significantly in my opinion, the much overlooked Mickey Baker.

Dunc: Thanks so much for that Martyn/Thompson/Kossof story. Almost like Derek and Clive! And I agree about Heylin.

Bonk: The b-side of Grant Smith and the Power's hit "Keep On Running" - "Her Own Life" features a fine sub-Robbie lead break by Jon Palma, though by the time the album came out Palma had been replaced by Ken Marco, who soon left with three other group members to form Motherlode, whose "When I Die" is a personal favourite of mine and Landmark's. (Hawks links abound, but I won't bore you with the details unless you want 'em.)


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Peter V, Bob W

Thanks Peter. I have the Roy Buchanan collection which I play occasionally. I heard Sweet Dreams when it came out and I thought it was wonderful. I read Buchanan was never happy with his albums and I can see why. Last year when I went to see Sid Griffin's talk at the Perth Festival he said that in every band there's a driving force and that, as we all know, Robbie was the driving force in the Band. (Was it Levon in the earlier days?) It would be Robbie that would be doing business with Bob over the years and I think hard driving leads to perhaps greater respect, but less friendliness in relationships.

Bob, glad you saw it. My hobby is trying to get round Europe and Scotland. Never been outside Europe apart from my two Band inspired visits to Toronto. I hope this does not sound daft, but I got a great thrill in going to seek out the Band's old haunts.

Last year in Mull at Duart Castle I met a group of very enthusiastic Americans who were tracing where they came from. I blethered to them about our history for half an hour and was touched by their appreciation. I've been to Mull twice. Oban is a great centre for a holiday and you take ferry trips to Tiree, Coll, Lismore, and Mull and Iona. Americans are very welcomed in Scotland. Try googling Duart Castle and these islands.

Today I was hoping to get to Bute, Cumbrae or Arran, a beautiful island, often described as Scotland in miniature, but the rain is still coming in. I could do with an alligator in the garden to brighten things up. Perhaps the grandkids will pop in later.

So instead it has been a day of music. I started with 'No Direction Home', the best 'Live at Leeds', 'the Free Story' (I had to after reading that story I posted... incredible), some 'Four Seasons', the Lighthouse Family, 'Slim Chance' - Ronnie Lane and now Stevie Ray Vaughn 'Soul to Soul'. Like you, if I remember correctly I play 'Under a Red Sky' a lot. Nothing if not a catholic taste. Take care, Bob.

A sad postcript to the John Martyn story was that less than a year later Kossof was dead. Only a boy. What a waste. I don't know how they could have played on stage.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Hunter S. Thompson

I tracked down that Hunter Thompson quote, as I remember reading it before. Got out my copy of "Generation of Swine: Gonzo Papers Vol. 2 / Tales of Shame and Degradation in the '80s", a collection of columns Dr. Thompson wrote as media critic for the San Francisco Examiner. The famous quote is the opening paragraph of a dispatch entitled "Full-time Scrambling" (Nov. 4, 1985) which discusses installing a large satellite dish at his home in Woody Creek, Co. in order to receive all the available t.v. channels.

"The TV business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason."

"...Mainly we are dealing with a profoundly degenerate world, a living web of foulness, greed an treachery...which is also the biggest real business around and impossible to ignore. You can't get away from TV. It is everywher. The hog is in the tunnel."

The historian Douglas Brinkley was a friend of Dr. Thompson and is his literary executor.

When discussing Robbie's guitar influences, one can't discount that of Fred Carter Jr., who like James Burton and Reggie Young, came from the Louisiana Hayride school of pickers.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Dlew, the one beautiful thing about the Derby is that because so much money is bet on it and spread out over various forms of wagering options, you can snag a great price on a legitimate contender. Even though a 50-1 shot won, anyone who took the third shot Pioneer Of The Nile in a $2 exacta box with the field and reversed the box could have had a $2300+ payoff for only $76. My original two picks got scratched otherwise I may have wagered along those lines. Anyway each day brings new options and challenges to look out for. At the races and in life. Recognizing it, then picking your spot is the key


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Posted by:

bob w.

Dunc, last night we enjoyed an hour long documentary on the Isle of Mull. It was quickly added to our list of places we hope to visit.

We're in a rainy stretch here as well. Hope you enjoy your holiday nonetheless.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dunc, I think the word that John Martyn used to describe Paul Kossoff is appropriate for Heylin, much of the time. As I said last week, “Revolution in the Air” is very strong on chronology, but turn to Michael Gray if you want insight into lyrics. In several books Heylin expresses dislike of Robbie over the Basement tapes. I think the trickle of evidence is building up that Dylan is no longer pals with Robbie. Who knows why? Robbie is complimentary about Dylan most of the time (except he does like saying he pointed out that Smokey Robinson was a greater poet … but Bob later used that quote himself). Levon’s always been nice about Dylan too, even if it’s screamingly obvious that he left the tour in late 65 because he didn’t like the set up or the music. But I guess they became buddies when he returned and cemented it in 74.

The idea that Robbie copped everything off Roy Buchanan ignores the short period of exposure and that Buchanan was playing bass for some of it, which would have pissed him off. Robbie always said Buchanan was his inspiration in interviews (which is why I bought 70s Buchanan albums), but I reckon Curtis Mayfield had more of an influence, both on Robbie and on rock guitar playing in general.

Also Heylin was coming of age during punk, so like Hoskyns, can only look back at 65 or 66 from retrospect. Those of us who were there in 1965 could assure him that Dylan was by no means ever “the hottest name in pop” but was always a specialist taste, albeit a big specialist taste.

Heylin does make a few interesting points. He notes that Nothin’ Was Delivered was cut twice without Levon, and the fact that they later recut it WITH Levon suggests it was earmarked for Big Pink, but that The Byrds got in first. (Chronology is the hot point). He also notes that The Byrds version is based on the “rejected” second take, not the third one that got onto the publishing demo acetate. The implication is that they had earlier access.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Booker T

Thought you might enjoy


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Jeff, Peter

Jeff I've been in that state of drunkenness in my student days and the last thing I would be able to do was go on stage.

Peter:I was going to visit one of the Clyde islands today, but this driving rain has spoiled the holiday. Hence surfing. I thought what you said about Robbie was interesting. I'd thought about that recently. Then I thought perhaps I'm too subjective about the Band reinforced by Jan's site and the GB.

It has been Clinton Heylin I've been thinking about recently with the release of his new book. Although there are compliments about the Band in 'Behind the Shades' he is often derogatory about our guys.

To qoute: 'In truth and with the ample evidence of good soundboard tapes from Texas and Arkansas in late '64, Levon and the Hawks were a bar band of unassuming ambition, playing standard flare without flash or fire. Robertson's lead guitar work, copped largely from the mercurial Roy Buchanan rarely peeked above the parapet' He goes onto praise Richard's singing.

'That Robertson was prepared to forsake one and all for a shot with Dylan should not be a source of doubt, much as he would later insist that the hottest name in pop meant nothing to him. Nothing but deliverance'

On Levon playing with Dylan 'Perhaps he was as deluded as to the merits of what they were now doing as he had been about the sound they made before Dylan recruited them.'

On the release of the Basement Tapes 'It was Robbie Robertson, rather than Dylan, who was the prime mover in the project. Once again, a Dylan album was being released to shore up the Band's depleted funds.'

Very unkind. We have a derogatory term for journalists who write on our Scottish Football team - fans with typewriters. At best Heylin is too subjective, everything through the eyes of Bob, at worst pernicious about the Band. The legendary story of Dylan playing with the Band is debunked in his book. I would argue that the Band gave a lot to Dylan at that time. Garth, for example, could carry a concert on his own. I'll think twice about buying Heylin's new book.

Or am I wrong? Is it me that is subjective? Thoughts anybody? Still driving rain here, spoiling a holiday.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Happy May Day Bank Holiday (UK)

The Allan Jones Leeds story is superbly told too.

It becomes more and more obvious that Dylan has some kind of thing about Robbie. Theme Time Radio Hour, Volume one of the autobiography, various quotes about guitarists, all Robbie free areas. See Don De Lillo’s Great Jones Street, where allegedly characters borrow from Dylan and Robbie. I’d say there was bad feeling on Dylan’s part.

I’ve been listening to Marianne Faithull a lot. Down From Dover is the one to start with, then the Decemberists The Crane Wife 3 if you want to sample before buying.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: b b the king - that's bashful bill; Landmark

I had almost the exact opposite reaction, Bill. I thought I wouldn't like it, having heard snippets. But there you go ... /n Landmark - is the Kentucky derby like the melbourne cup insofar as professional betters don't bet on it? They di, but only token bets for tradition? A lot of serious money gets plonked down, but only the amount is serious, not the bets. Is the Kentucky derby like that?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Dunc, yes it is amazing they pefroemd and recorded such a great show in the midst of those antics. But, amongst talent of that level, it is not unusual for things to be exteemely out of kilter yet fucking gorgoues and beauitful when it cones to the moment of artistic execution. Ever since I;ve been involved, I;ve said it;s a fucking miracle records get made. And it is. When it comes down to it, it is a fucking miracle.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: More From the Dylan Interview

Bob Dylan bypasses Robbie Robertson, G.E. Smith, and Larry Campbell when asked about the best guitarists who he's worked with in that latest ROLLING STONE interview: "The guy I always miss, and I think would still be around if he'd stayed with me, actually, was Mike Bloomfield...he knew all the styles and could play them so incredibly well...but then again a lot of good guitarists have played with me. Freddy Tackett, Steve Ripley--Mick Taylor played with me for a minute."

Later in the article by historian Douglas Brinkley we learn that Mr. Dylan is a New York Yankee fan who will catch games "sitting behind first base" at the stadium while wearing a disguise, "wishing Mickey Mantle were still battling cleanup." I wonder if Paul Simon sits with him. They're among the few who can afford those seats these days since THEY WROTE THE SONGS! [I read that some of those seats closest to the field at the new Yankee Stadium have had prices reduced since the empty seats look bad on TV. At least the Yankees are playing winning baseball, though, as where I live we have TV choices of two of the worst teams in baseball--the Washington Nationals and Baltimore Orioles]


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Subject: Another Pleasant Valley Sunday

Here in the car theft capitol of Canada. I posted last night but I guess I forgot to press click the box. Anyway. Joe J.: In a little known deal, I pass on the rights to "Your Investment advice..." after Pyro's horrible showing in the Derby last year. Rest assured that the person I "bequeathed" the rights to, knows about the GB. His advice needless to say, is not in the "Mad Bomber" mode that mine is in. If nothing else, I am happy that I got Abby out for a breath of GB air. Good to hear from you and hope all is well. Also happy that I didn't have to go on vacation to get Jersey Girl out. Hope you are fine as well. Has anybody else noticed the amount of television advertising for Dylan's latest? You would think he was the "flavour of the month" boy band or something. Must go. Have a big harvest to make on my Farmtown farm on Facebook.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Dlew

This is too funny. As I do a couple times ayear I spent a couple hours today going through my cd's - organising, filing, cross referencing, etc. Went through both cars & my son's room & what used to be the family room but is now a ping pong / my sons&his friends hideway room picking up any stray's....The only important one that seems to actually be anong the missing is Clapton;s No Reason To Cry with Band connections galore. that album;s hasnt aged real well butit does have some high musical points still, & has sentimental value for me.I pull it out for a listen once a year or so, usually in the car by myself. I wonder if its even available in stores anymore, but I'd bet I can find it on Amazon or Ebay encheapened. I'll be lookin if it doesnt turn up. I also thought my Stevie Ray Vaughn The Sky is Crying was gone but it turned up. That would have been a bummer- I lost that in the divorce&already repleced it once. But, the above mentioned funny part. I pulled together about 20 or 30 to schlepp off to the used bin & no lie - Raising Sand was the first one I pulled. The very first one. It never even made it onto the shelf - I listened to it a # of times but never got around to putting it in its proper place. I dont hate the album but I wasnt overly impressed. Its that kind of music I wanted to like but didnt despite trying& have no desire to listen to it again. Too bad you bought it - they already made a boatload of $ off it& I would have mailed it for free.It needs a home, somewhere it'll be appreciated..... Speaking of Marrianne Faithful - has anyone heard her new covers album? They were playing it in Barnes&Noble the other day & I heard the last couple songs which sounded all right- typically all right, as her stuff usually is in my opinion. She's aged much more gracefully than many would have predicted. Her autobio is a cool read, or at least i thought so when it came out way back when. time sure flies...... Anyway, I checked it out at the counter but I'm certain I'm not the only one who's being a little extra careful with my discretionary spending these days.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: That's a good story too,. Marianne Faithful

Enjoyed your story too, Jeff. But after and before the mayhem and violence they went and recorded one of the great cult albums of British rock. It's also an Island story, in that Blackwell took it up and released it. Beautiful guitar playing. Also 'All Right Now' is played consistently every Saturday all over the place.

Marianne Faithful was Mick Jagger's girlfriend. Poor quality. Full stop.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Pretty wild story Dunc. I laughed pretty hard. Very believable.

I saw Martyn solo once. Mnay years ago. He opened for someone, I think it was at Brooklyn College back in theearly or ealry Mid 70s. But I could be wrong on that. Reagrdless, I recall being taken with his guitar work.

Hard living hard traveling triplets would include Danko, Butterfield and Chaplin. I imagine mostly without the violence though.

In the past I;ve related Wally's story here. Wally was a woodstocker, owned a antique and art store in town, Different locations on the main drag over the years.Wally was a heavy drinker, only drank Breck's that I knew. We w ere pretty friendly and he loved to tell this story. Rick, Butterfield and blondie were touring and cutting quite a wide swath through the west. Also spending way too much money. So he got hired and sent out west to ride herd on em. Get em where they were gong and pay the bills. Well, they hired a comely young lass to snuggle up to Wally and slip hm a mickey. or something. When hecame to, they, the vehicle which he was in chaege of, and all the credit cards and almost every penny of the money was gone too. They must have laughed their asses off.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Tears gone by and it takes rainy day woman a lot to laugh...

The CBS Sunday Morning program had a profile on Marianne Faithfull today. In one brief clip you could spot Garth performing with Ms. Faithfull. Kristie: Dylan cracks up briefly a couple of times in "Rainy Day Women...".


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: An Impossible Way of Life

Not a Band topic, but perhaps this amazing (and violent)story explains why you can only be on the road for so long.

Another 'Live at Leeds' was John Martyn's which he produced and sold himself. A great British Rock story. This story involves three musicians I still play regularly - Danny Thompson of Pentangle and Paul Kossof of Free in addition to John.

Give it a read.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Somewhere Down The Lazy River (Part 2)

Steve: The experience you had with that barn must've been a little disconcerting.

Bonk: I never knew the Tee Pee Drive-In to serve as a music venue, but that was interesting that it had. Once upon a time (early to mid-sixties) apparently a couple of big names (though not at that time) actually used the drive-in as a hotel and lived there for a stretch. Then for somewhere to rehearse with their band they used a kind of dance hall-type area in a barn-like building over at The Lazy River Ranch (which was probably within two miles of where Bill M. grew up). My oldest brother and his wife who at the time were tenant/managers of the Ranch (ie. "squatters"), struck up an arrangement whereby these musicians could pracitise there all they wanted, providing they'd provide the music for a teen dance once a month in the same location. Apparently the first dance came along but was so poorly attended by the local teens that the whole arrangement kind of fizzled. A completely ordinary turn of events of course to be sure, just not in light of the musical reputations that these two drive-in dwellers eventually attained. NB


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jersey Girl

Glad to hear from you. Its been too long.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jeff/Woodstock movie

Jeff, thanks for those links. I can't believe we actually dressed and danced that way (I've hidden most of my pictures from that era)

The trailer from Taking Woodstock has a brief flash of a bugalow colony. It looks like the place I spent my first 8 summers.

Happy Birthday Pete! The Weavers were a special part of my youth.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Keeping the torch alive.

Thank you everybody

Welcome back Jersey Girl. You did your duty.

And I just realised it's a very long torch. The Dylan concert last night reminded me, if I'm correct, that it was an amazing 42 years ago to the day(yesterday)that Bob was recording with our boys at Big Pink. 42 years! I think I'm correct?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Fab Faux in DC

I decided to bite the bullet and pay the price for the Fab Faux show in DC last night and I'm glad I did. I'm a big Jimmy Vivino fan but had never seen him as part of this group of Beatle fanatics. I'd seem him play backing John Sebastian then Al Kooper and--most recently--Levon Helm here in Old Virginny (thanks again, Jan F.). I'd only seen Will Lee as part of Letterman's band when I went to tapings of the old NBC show back in the '80s.

Last night's Fab Faux gig at the wonderfully restored Warner Theater in downtown DC was a great surprise in the depth of material, the quality of the performance and obvious love for the music. The highlight was the second set when the group played the entire British version of the "Revolver" LP in sequence, complete with sitar when needed, string section on appropiate tracks, and some fine harmony singing and spirited playing in general. George Harrison songs were another highlight through the setlist, with "Here Comes the Sun" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" standing among the best performances of the evening.

Long story short, I'm glad I laid out the money to see these great musicians. Money is just money, but--as Frank Zappa put it--"music is the best."

And Happy 90th, Mr. Seeger! I'm hoping Paul and Ringo as well as The Fab Faux are all still around playing great music at that age, too...


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Location: Charleston, SC (at the moment)

Subject: TLW Ensemble

Illka, I was at the Pour House in Charleston for The Last Waltz Ensemble last night. I can only say that I'm now certain I'm too old for any venue where you have to get your hand stamped. No tables or seats, hundreds of college kids who only recognize the chorus to The Weight, show announced for 9:00 opened with Rag Mama Rag at 11:30. Ouch. The music? Very uneven. But I guess it keeps the flame alive.


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Posted by:

Steve

You're an honorable man, Peter, even if you had to swallow hard before the birthday wish.

I heard Seeger's most recent biographer on radio this morning. Unfortunately I've already forgotten his name but I do remember a few bits from the interview.

He said that Seeger's music was popular long before he got into music and therefor really didn't know it or Seeger well.

He called Pete not knowing what to expect and was left without a response when Seeger told him he didn't really think there needed to be another book about him.

When he went to visit Seeger, Pete told him he'd cooperate as long as the book was short enough to read in one sitting. The final product is 150 pages, a long sitting, but doable.

Besides the incredible level of integrity that Seeger has maintained throughout his life the other thing that impressed the authour was how, then at 88 years old, Seeger is so incredibly fit and active.

He said they were going for a walk on the property and Pete had to go back to the house to get something and literally jogged off and then back so he wouldn't hold up their walk and talk.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Backseat Driver

The link I have added is to youtube. Backseat Driver was a band of very good friends, two of which are now dead. Lead player Randy Montana, was killed in a car crash I believe. Quite a few years back. The little feller in the middle, playing guitar and fiddle, Gaylord Wood, got some kind of wierd desease. I'll have to ask Lorne what it was, I don't remember. It was quite a while back.

The club the fellows are playing in is "Boone County" on the outskirts of Vancouver, where I played many years. My brother was e mailed this link some one dug up, so he just sent it to me. Last time I saw Gaylord, many years ago, he was sitting down on my fishboat with me, just after I did the first renovation. We shared a beer, and I never saw him again. He was a hell of a picker, on guitar, mandolin, steel, and fiddle.

Watch them play, "I'll fix Your Flat Tire Merle, Blues Man, and Mobile Boogie" the sound is tolerable, for the age of it. Has too be late 80's, early 90's. It's a pretty good sized club. Holds about 800 people.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: OK, Happy Birthday, Pete Seeger

There you go, Steve.


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Posted by:

Steve

Location: Happy Birthday Pete

Well, while some people may think it's strange to wish a happy birthday to people of our youth now dead or even long dead, I'd like to invite the GB ( especially you Peter) to join in a salute to Seeger on his 90th birthday, today.

Like or dislike his musical style, like or dislike his personality, I think we can all join together in saluting a man of incredible strength and personal courage. I salute him for so much but especially salute his refusal to take the 5th in front of the McCarthy brutes who crushed so many under their jackboots. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PETE !!!


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hit me about 15 miutes ago walking back from the store:Let Your Love Flow, was the Bellamy Brothers song that first caught my attention. It may have been their first hit, and undoubtedbly is their best song. Well, undoubtedly to me anyway. Seems that after that and Old Hippy they kinda went in for stuff that bordered on schlock. They also had that country cowboy reggae song who's name escapes me. Schlock. And the shame of it is, they were far superior to that.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Subject: Ang Lee's "Taking Woodstock"

Scheduled for August release.

Dunc, glad you saw a good show.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Shortest Record

Thanks for the review, Dunc. A friend who saw him at The Roundhouse in London last week was equally enthusiastic.

I mentioned picking up a copy of Little Boxes on a single. Stay by Maurice Williams and The Zodiacs is held to be the shortest charting single, at 1m 38s. That's what I'd answer in a pub quiz anyway.

Pete Seeger undercut that by a full thirty seconds on Mail Myself To You. The breakneck live performance (on the B-side of Little Boxes) is 1 minute 8 seconds. This Woody Guthrie song must be the inspiration for The Gift, a narrative by John Cale on the Velvet Underground’s second album in 1968, White Light White Heat. The story of mailing oneself to a girlfriend because you cant afford the fare is developed to a macabre finale when she decides to use a pair of long kitchen scissors to open the unexpected parcel. Like Murder Mystery on the third album, it is best appreciated with the stereo balance control turned entirely to one side so as to appreciate the lyric while minimizing the thrash backing. I prefer The Gift to Mail Myself To You … but is the Pete Seeger rendition the shortest side of a mainstream single?


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Dylan

Really enjoyed Dylan last night. Highlights among many highlights included 'Don't Think Twice It's Alright', a beautiful 'Visions of Johanna','Hattie Carroll', upright bass playing, the most I've seen Bob playing harmonica, good sound not too loud and renditions of songs from 'Modern Times'. At one time the band was acoustic. A guitar band with great guitar playing.

Here is set list - Maggie's Farm,Don't Think Twice, It's All Right, Till I Fell In Love With You,The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll, The Levee's Gonna Break, Workingman's Blues #2, Ballad Of Hollis Brown, Visions Of Johanna, Honest With Me, Every Grain Of Sand, Highway 61 Revisited, Ain't Talkin',Thunder On The Mountain,Like A Rolling Stone, All Along The Watchtower, Spirit On The Water, Blowin' In The Wind

So a great finish and Dylan with a strong voice.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Jeff

Thanks, Jeff. Really enjoyed the descriptions of the shows. Envious I wasn't there. The shows sound great. Have been playing 'Islands' and Richard sounds great.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Robbie Robertson's Official Site?

According to web site of ROLLING STONE Magazine the Official Site of Robbie Robertson is this: http://theband.hiof.no/band_members/robbie.html . I didn't know that. Isn't this internet great. It is so fast and reliable.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Raising Sand - Plant/Kraus

Just got it this weekend: any dissent from the idea that it is a terrific album?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: you can hear the drugs and genius


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: John Byner/ Burrito Borthers/ Same Episode /Too funny


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: John Byner/Poco

This is an artifact and belongs enshrined somwehere. Too fucking funny for words.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Derby

Glad you never labelled your pick as 'Investment Advice' Landmark. Did I get it right? 18th in a 19 horse field.

Actually I missed it. Had to take my son to the airport which brings up the Band connection. The oldies show on the local FM station played 'The Shape I'm In' on the drive in. Son recognized it as soon as I did. Been a while since I heard anything but one o fthe Big 3 on commercial radio.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: the People's Pony

Now how did you like that, Landy? I loved it!


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Posted by:

Friend0

Joan, the real descriptions of those shows, I posted years back. seeing Rick and Richard together, was a experience that activated, stimulated, and made all the senses and emotions work overtime. Seing Rick with Blondie did, but duifferently and to a lesser degree. And the occassional Rick with skollieshow the same. Rick and Richard together was about as powerfuland a emotional as a mild earthguake happening the day after a tornado hit your town.

seeing the whole Band ( sans RR of course), well, it was always emotional. There are sounds that get emebedded in side you, and when you hear em again, live, with the players playing them and being their own irrefutable unadulterated selves, it;s pretty powerful

And regardless of what people will say, write etc,when you saw The Band, you saw The Band.

The Band, at The Lone Star, when Richard was still alive, was devastating every set, every night. Now I won't say thta abut The Band Is Back Band with The Cates Brothers. I enjoyed that video, I have it since it was first available. Haven;t watched it in ages. But i rememebr a lot of it was mild. The Band I saw, was not usually mild. With Richard they blazed,and once Richard passed, they still usually blazed. By early mid 90s some of the shsows had starting mild periods,then Levon snapped out of that mode he woudl get in, and the show changed. But there were many very blazing shows in t hat 86 to mid 90s period. There was one at The Ritz, 86 or 87, first time I saw The Band there, they came out burning. Opened with an amazingly powerful version of Cripple Creek.

But one thing about The Band is that for the most part, seeing them on stage and offstage at shows, if you paid attention they represented who they really were.

Got to go to work, Or something resembling work.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jeff

I enjoyed those descriptions of the Lone Star shows.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Link is to TV spot about the members of Buffalo Springfield, obviously done before Palmer & Martin died.

One of my 2 favotie Ballmay Borhter #s was Old Hippy. I don't recall the other, but i knw there was another.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Country
Web: My link

Subject: The Last Waltz Ensemble

The Last Waltz Ensemble, sounds interesting, see http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/apr/30/last80641/


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Posted by:

Friend0

Hey Charlie, During that 85ish period, Rick was often about as clean as a whistle as Rick would be. He wasn't lean, but he wasn't far off., He was somewhat hyper, but that was his energy. Rick kinda idled in first gear. But he was often publicly reasonably relaxed too. I saw lots of his performances during that period. He looked healthy, and like I said, for Rick, he was behaving like a choir boy. Funny, animated to a good degree, warm, personable, engaging. During the Byrds gene clark big band shows he dispalyed a lot of classic Rick Danko performance energy on stage.

On and off stage ,It all turned up notches and down notches to varying degress over the years, but stayed within reasonable parameters till the ealry mid 90s, maybe aroudn 94. But the mid 80s were a particlaurly great great time to be there to see Rick perform all ovee the place. \

Richard's peformances: i dontl think I missed more than one or two Band sets in NYC before Richard died. And i caught Rick and Richard at Folk City a bunch of time, possibly with Gene Clark there too,the three of them. I know I saw gene there with JOn York, and I tihnk Rick and Richard. At one Rick and Richard Folk city perfrormance i sat next to Butterfield , who was next to Elizabeth. Butterfield did do a buch of #s with them. I;m sure glad I left St Louis and returned to Ny when I did. It was a great time to be in NYC.

It's possiblr you and I were in the Lone Star at the same tme on occassion. I was often there 3, 4 times in a week. Abotu a year after returning to Brooklyn, I met some people from my general vicinity of Brooklyn there, and since i was the only one who didn't get high or drink to excess ( actually, I was drinking club soda 85 through 87) I used to drive everyone in and back. One of the guys was a distributor of superior hemp produicts, and was generous towards the bouncers anbd bartenders. So,by sheer luck, after a short time I didn't pay to get in, and by a time not long after i started drinking again, ten bucks would cover me for the night. If I brought a date, i'd give the bartender a twenty, and we were good for the night. After the Cafe closed, this continued at the Lone Star Roadhouse.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: On the Beach

Subject: Vern Gosdin & Old Country Wordsmiths

Very sad David to get your news of Vern's passing. Just arrived home last night finally, and had a look at how every one is doing this morning.

I put Vern in a class with Ed Bruce, BillyJo Shaver, Guy Clarke and that group of writers that so influenced our lives and times.

Hello Norbert, good to see you around. I like your pick of car songs. Mine go a little further back. Many years ago, I had a 1957 Ford Sunliner, retracktable hardtop convertible. There was only 25,000 made in 57. I spent a small fortune having it restored. When "Thunder Road" or "Hotrod Lincoln" might come on the radio, the odometer needle got buried to the far side of 120.

About 1980, soon after the highway joining the north end of Vancouver Island was completed, I was headed up the island one summer day with my top down. As I cruised up the high way, where for 60 miles or so there is still nothing to see but trees, out in the middle of nowhere is this young cop I knew with his radar setup. I knew him pretty well, and stopped to jaw with him a while. He was really taken with my old car, so he says, "How fast will it go?" I said well the speedo goes to 120, then buries. He says "well go back down there and give it a run, and I'll clock you, but don't ever tell anyone we did this." So I got about a mile back, and wound it up. When I came back his eyes were pretty big. He says, "Look at this". His big red screen was showing I went by him at 146 MPH. So we had a good laugh and I motored away, (slowly). I had spent a fortune on that old Thunderbird engine, balanced, ported, relieved, and ground the cam to about 3/4 race. It was pretty interesting to see how it performed. I might even have beat Robert Mitchum.

Well in memory of Vern Gosdin:

I grew up a dreamin' of being a cowboy,

And lovin' the cowboy ways.

Pursuing the life, of my high ridin' heroes,

I burned up my childhood days

Pickin' up hookers instead of my pen,

I let the words of my youth slip away,

Old worn out saddles and old worn out memories,

With nothin' and no place to stay.

My heroes have always been cowboys,

And they still are it seems.

Sadly in search of, and one step in back of,

Themselves and their slow movin' dreams........


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Rick & Richard on "Mixed Bag"

FriendO: I envy you for being there at the NYC Lone Star performance you describe so well below. I was living in New York at the time and heard highlights of that evening on Pete Fornatale's Sunday morning "Mixed Bag" radio show a few weeks later. I think it was that particular performance of "You Don't Know Me" which was sweetened a bit with some overdubs by Garth Hudson and released several years later. I like both versions.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Yes Dunc, I saw Richard sing She Knows a few times. One memorable time, at The Lone Star, was Pete Fornatale's 1985 MIxed Bag show. Rick and Richard were doing their duo, and Rick sat down on the lowest section of the steps, facing the narrow section there where audience could stand. He was a few feet away from where i stood, and he was pulling on a cigarette. I had recently moved back from St Louis.Rick was very engaging to the audience that , and it was clear that he was a special person. Richard made a few funny cracks, and it was clear he too was a very special person. The performance was gorgeous, the whole damn thing. Richard's voice was painfully beautiful. And the experience of seeing Band songs performed powerfully and fully by just the duo was an eye opener. Fornatale has broadcast that performance both in it;s entirety and in smaller doses many times over the years.

Steve, stealing a bus takes balls. Montreal is welcome to the title car theft capitol of the world. Just don't let Landmark tell you it is the brisket capitol of the world.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I Want Revenge has been scratched from the Derby. #6 Friesen Fire is my top pick now.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Subject: The moment you've been waiting for!

#13 I Want Revenge is my pick to win the Kentucky Derby. Aside from going across the board on him, I have also formulated various exacta and trifecta boxes with him, #6 Friesen Fire, #15 Dunkirk, and #19 Desert Party. Enjoy the race everybody and a special shout-out on this high holy day to Abby who is probably watching all the hoopla already.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bonk, no, never lived in Ontario but I did play fastball in south western Quebec, Franklin Center, Ormstown area for a couple of years in the early 80's. I could hit fast balls and even that rising fastball some of the good pitchers can throw but would occasionally get twisted in knots with an effective change of speed. Sooooo, embarrassing.

Jeff, I thought you might enjoy this as a followup to our stolen instrument chat. Last night I heard the singer\guitarist from the Montreal band , The Dears, explaining how surprised the band was his week to be told their tour bus was stolen off a downtown Montreal street as they were getting ready to leave on an East coast tour of the US, starting in NY City. Poof! The bus is gone and hasn't been seen since it was stolen 3 days ago. I think I mentioned that Montreal was the car theft capital of North America.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Subject: Just Music

Enjoyed the musical posts.

Island Records were cool. Another Band related Island first was Levon playing on John Martyn's first single - John the Baptist by John and Beverley Martyn.

Jeff:I knew of Poco - old Grey Whistle Test etc, - but related to your enthusiasm I bought a collection - probably a bit later than the best work, which I really enjoy.(only one in the Local shop)

Did you ever see Richard sing 'She knows', a great favourite of mine at the Lone Star Cafe. When playing at the Lone Star Cafe did Richard perform well?

Bashful:Play the album all the time. Also posted about the album on the GB citing it as Levon and Rick playing at their best.

Scottish connection to Bellamy Brothers. They recorded a few Frankie Miller songs.

Abby:Nice to hear from you.

Am excited. Going to see Bob tonight.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Me & G-d love ya Stabbigirl.

And Poco loves you too of course.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: STEVE & NB

Steve. You ever play any fastball in Pickering, Broughm or Clarington. Just wondering. NB. Didn't Grant Smith and the Power (or EG Smith and the Power) play at the TeePee Drive In or the Bay Ridges Drive In at one time? There would be your connection to the Hawk.


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: poco

Thanks for directing me to those Poco videos, Friend0! Great fun~


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Posted by:

bob w.

Adjourned.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Dlew

I have seen that clip on Youtube. Very hilarious.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Oh, NB, It's Worse Than That !

Here's the quick story on the barn.

Two families bought one, two hundred and fifty acre farm, in 72. Back to the lander types with no farming skills but a lot of determination. They split the land into two 125 acre farms, one group getting the existing house and farm buildings and the other group built their own house ( a beautiful solar heated, windmill powered, composting toileted, attached glass green house thing that had an article in Harrowsmith dedicated to it in the early 80's).

Both groups being hard headed, non trusting and somewhat cutthroat and hard to get along with types, insisted everything they agreed to was put down in writing, triplicated and signed by all parties.

The group that built their own house got one of the two barns on the original homestead site in the deal with the understanding they had to remove it in 6 or 7 years. I can't remember the exact amount of time but it was definitely spelled out to the exact minute.

A friend of ours who was friends with the group who owned the barn asked Marge and I if we'd help dismantle the barn, the plan was to take it down and reassemble it ( which never got done)on their property.

We helped take it down on the last possible weekend and then as fate would have it bought the farm where we took down the barn 3 years later and ended up building a smaller barn to replace the one that was taken down. One of those , OH WHAT THE FUCK !!!! situations.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: This doesn't count, but...

In 'Dharma and Greg' (I think that was the show), Dylan made a guest appearance (!). Jenna Elfman sat in with his band on drums (and, let's be fair, did a creditable job). At the end, she asks if she can join the band. Dylan smirks, then she says 'I have my own van', and Dylan loses it.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Kristie: he sure does crack up in "Please, Mrs. Henry"!


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: R-E-S-P-E-C-T ?

I should show a little respect for those old barns ! Hay Steve, I'm not the one running around in some vigilante tractor gang tearing those decrepit, but magnificently picturesque old edifices to the ground. If some modern-day A Y Jacksons come along with their easels and paintboxes, just what are they supposed to paint after you and your thugs tear down all those poetic old barns ? NB


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Dylan

As I said over on my facebook page :"It sounds like Dylan has been gargling with some hard times." His voice is almost an instrument in itself now. I think it sounds great.

"Hell is my wife's hometown," is a hilarious song. The backing band really remind me of the Minnesota half of "Blood on the Tracks," which I love. Overall, I really enjoy the album.

Which brings me to a trivia question, for all those who want to participate. Dylan laughs at the end of "Hell is my wife's hometown." How many songs does Dylan laugh in? And "Bob Dylan's 155th dream" doesn't count because I think it is actually Tom Wilson laughing in that one.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Little Sammy Davis on the mend & back live.

Youtube.com clip of Little Sammy Davis performing for the 1st time during his benefit show @ the Keltic House 04/26/09. We were heartbroken to hear of his stroke as we've seem him live twice @ Levon's (met him too). It's great to see he's on the mend.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: "Together Through Life"

I'm listening to Bob Dylan's new album for the first time while reading the interview historian Douglas Brinkley did with Mr. Dylan for the May 14th issue of ROLLING STONE. I'm amazed at how good Dylan's voice can still sound on studio recordings while he sounds so worn and ragged in concert. Ah, technology! David Hidalgo's accordian is a special highlight on the new disc and Dylan's collaborative lyrics with Grateful Dead songwriter Robert Hunter work well with the Americana sound of the record. Great stuff!

The Douglas Brinkley article is also great stuff with fine passages about Dylan's admiration for Chuck Berry and the whole Chess Records roster of bluesy roots artists. My favorite part so far, though, is Mr. Dylan's rant about young whipper-snappers: "It's peculiar and unnerving in a way to see so many young people walking around with cellphones and iPods in their ears and so wrapped up in media and video games...it robs them of their self-identity. It's a shame to see them so tuned out of real life..."

Which reminds me of a very old Dylan lyric: "It's alright, Ma--it's life and life only..."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Norbert, I have a 160 GB iPod and the only stuff on the Top Gear list that’s on there is:

Jessica – The Allman Brothers

All Right Now – Free

Born To Be Wild – Steppenwolf.

I could give you a list. Anything connected with Hawkwind / Motorhead is out!


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: PAT B

Ballad of John and Yoko recording sheet. Paul on drums and overdubbed bass, piano and maracas. John on acoustic, lead and second lead guitars and thumps on the back of his acoustic. Nowhere on the sheet does it say Paul picked up a guitar so it must have been Johns rift. Funny, it sounds like Pauls playing to me. Cheers...Bonk


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Mortise and Tenon

Show a little respect for your elders NB. That barn was probably built too well to fall down, unlike the trash most houses are built of today.

If it looked sagged, lost parts or all of its roof and some of the barn board siding and it was still standing it was built by someone who knew how to build a barn. We tried to take down a good sized barn in 82 that was about 100 years old at the time.

We stripped off all the barn boards, took all the tin off the roof, chained sawed the roof boards between all the rafters, chainsawed all the braces we could safely do and figured we had it licked.

We got a tractor and a 50 foot cable and started pulling. Then a second tractor chained to the first. Then a third tractor and another cable attached to the other corner post on the same end of the barn. Nothing!!

Then we started sawing supports everywhere we could find them til it was too dangerous to go into the barn.

Then we went back to pulling with the three tractors and it finally came down. Two days work for about 10 people and 3 tractors before victory was declared.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Easy Livin

Thanks for the link Norbert. I haven't heard that one since my college days (or any other Uriah Heap for that matter). There was another Uriah Heap tune my roomie used to play all the time. It'll come back to me as soon as I sign off.

Have a good weekend you all.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: beautiful evening in the garden with laptop beer and headphones (my wife insist)
Web: My link

Bill, you're right they're listed on Peter V's Top Gear driving Songs CD

1. Don't Stop Me Now - Queen

2. Born To Be Wild - Steppenwolf

3. Radar Love - Golden Earring

4. Here I Go Again - Whitesnake

5. Gimme All Your Lovin' - Zz Top

6. Jessica - The Allman Brother

7. More Than A Feeling - Boston

8. Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd

9. Bat Out Of Hell - Meat Loaf

10.Swim With Sam - A Balladeer

11.The Reaper - Blue Oyster Cult

12. Black Betty - Ram Jam

13. All Right Now - Free

14. Highway Star - Deep Purple

15. Paranoid - Black Sabbath

16. Silver Machine - Hawkwind

17. Ace Of Spades - Motorhead

18. Girl - Anouk

Anyway, although Paranoid and Alabama are a great ones, I remember Uriah Heep's Easy Livin' (link) did the job too.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Somewhere Down The Lazy River

You nailed the Lazy River Ranch, both geographically and qualitatively Bill. I misspent some of my youth there though I never rode a single horse nor shoveled any of that stuff Steve does on a daily basis, even in his non-cyber life ! You're right. The so-called river was a lie. Or just so incredibly lazy it barely existed ! The run-down barn was equally lazy - too lazy to even collapse ! Anyway, to lend a thin albeit fake veneer of musicality to all this, if you can know something of musical significance about the long-gone TEE PEE DRIVE-IN theatre, a stones-we- throw distance away (Liverpool Rd.), then you might know the musical trivia connected to the LRR. (If all of this stumps you, then it's on the quiz for sure). NB


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Posted by:

Bill M

Norbert: Thanks. Never heard of the Marbles before, and knew only the version by Nigel Olsson, which I still prefer. (Possible Band link: Elton John drafted a number David Foster into his Rocket empire around that time - and maybe he's on it?) I guess it came out a bit past your prime, but I'd think that the classic Dutch car song might be "Radar Love".


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Car Classics

Dlew, thanks.

Ilkka, good to see you posting again my friend.

CCR's Up Around The Bend i.m.o. is thè car classic, but in those days I blasted The Marbles' Only One Woman loud too on my 100 Watt $25,- car kit (windows open).


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Carol Caffin's Phil Ramone interview for Crawdaddy.

Thank you, Joan! And thanks to Carol for this link.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Mike

Thank you Mike!! Your link to the Dylan article brought me to the WNEW,com page. I never thought I would ever hear those call letters again. 102.7 WNEW FM was THE station. It was a true loss when it went off the air. It will remain to be seen if it is as good, but...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Shit! They're no doubt …


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, it appears in different places with TV BUSINESS, MOVIE BUSINESS and MUSIC BUSINESS. There no doubt all equally apposite.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: If thieves and pimps run free...

That's a misquote of something similar that Hunter Thompson once wrote about the television industry.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dr Thompson recycled the same quote, replacing MOVIE with TV and then MUSIC. I was inspired to google for the original, and it MIGHT be this:

The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Various anglophiles, Fludd fans (Landmark, come on down) and anyone who's taken my advice and picked up Greg Godovitz's "Travels With My Amp" book (because it touches on the earlier days of our guys) might also be interested in the above little CanEnglish band - with links to John Bonham, Cat Stevens, ...


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: No wuckas, Peter...

All this talk (now kind of dissipated) on record companies and managers et cetera prompted me to link that. /n Indeed, all that talk reminded me of a quote (which I'll probably mangle) by Hunter S Thompson about the movie industry, which went something like this:

'the movie industry is full of shysters, crooks. It is an industry in which dreams are destroyed, lives are ruined, and many good and just men go to the wall. Unfortunately, it also has a bad side.'


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Posted by:

Pat B

Although The Ballad of John and Yoko was released as a Beatles single, only John and Paul played on it. So it was the either of the two of them who played the lick in question.


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Posted by:

David P.

I should add that Garth played on the live version of Marianne Faithfull's cover of the song. It was included on the album "Blazing Away", which also featured Dr. John. And just to tie things into another topic -- Ms. Faithfull recorded on the Island label.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Bob W / David P: Thanks so much for the quick responses to my question about the BoJ&Y riff. So, it's a Burlison riff from a Dorsey Burnette record. Hmm - as I don't know the record, but I've definitely heard the riff, I have to think that somebody else borrowed it before George H did. It's not in Chuck's lovely "I speak only the language of English, I don't understand Espagnol" song is it?

Peter V: The only reggae book I have - an encyclopedia - says that Laurel Aitken was backed on his first hit with Blackwell by an unnamed Toronto R&B band that was touring the Caribbean. Not our guys, I know, but I'd love to know who.

NB: Lazy River Ranch of course - NW corner of Dixie and Highway 2. (Yes folks, the same Hwy 2 mentioned in the Levon / Tysons post that got this whole Dixie Road thing started.) Lazy is a judgment I'm not prepared to make; River was a total lie; Ranch was an exaggeration of the truth ("a run-down barn and some decaying fences of the sort that might keep in less ambitious - or maybe lazy - domestic animals).


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The evening sun touched gently on the eyes of Lucy Jordan...

Let's take a musical journey this Friday, the first day of May. The Bellamy Brothers are still around, although you could say they're among the many casualties of the music business that has turned from fickle to cruel in recent years. Their blend of country & Southern rock paved the way for other duos such as Brooks & Dunn.

There is a link between the Bellamy Brothers and Gram Parsons that was forged in Florida. Before he achieved success with his brother Howard, David Bellamy co-wrote the 1973 hit "Spiders and Snakes" with fellow Floridian Jim Stafford. Mr. Stafford's musical roots intertwined with Gram Parsons in Winter Haven, where they played in a band together in high school.

Perhaps the poet laureate of the modern country music, embracing clever lyrics with an inventive edge, was the late-great Shel Silverstein. From Mr. Cash's classic take on a "Boy Named Sue" to songs sung by Bobby Bare, Dr. Hook and many others. Among his songs covered by Dr. Hook is "The Ballad of Lucy Jordan", and here our journey finds a link with Garth, who played on Marianne Faithfull's version of the song.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Island

Thanks, Dlew. This month both MOJO and THE WORD devoted their issue to celebrations of Island, which to record lovers is much as Penguin is to readers. It's somewhat specious as the 50th anniversary takes us back to 1959, three years before Island left Jamaica. Also, because "Island" is now a division of a conglomerate, all sorts of CDs are turning up in stores with "Island 50th Anniversary" stickers. I would have said being on Island in the first place was the qualification.

But Blackwell has a fair claim to being "best record company boss".


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Island Records

See link


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Posted by:

Bashdul Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Neil

I'm going through one of my periodic Neil Young frenzies. It happens every few years. Forafew days I play all kinds of his stuff everywhere&while doing everything but this time I dug out Shakey & doing a quick scanning of those periods in the book. My girlfriend inpired this one by digging out one of my Neil boots(I lived through a recent Lou Reed is God period of hers, & back around holiday time it was Leonard Cohen). One album I always revisit when I'm feeling like this is On The Beach. It seems to me like an underated Neil gem. I saw him play a couple songs from it acoustically just before it came out on that infamous CSNY tour awaaaay back in 74(I saw 2 of those shows, one of them in Oakland with our boys as one of the openers). I really like this album. It holds up for me , despite the lyrics ona couple of the songs being dated.Its different, & definitely an acquired taste, no? A bonus is vaving Levon on one song, &Rick&Levon on another. Does anyone here have any feelings on it, pro or con? & another question : does anyone know where I can get a decent copy of the SNACK benefit, & without breakin the bank?? I have an old, & I mean old vinyl copy which sounded like shit. The only way I could enjoy it was to play it on headphones on real real low volume.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Anti-war songs

You guys change the subject too quickly! - Anyway, the "best" anti-war songs for me were not Buffy or Donovan or Pete Seeger songs, no, they were ´die Preussen Marschen´ we sang in elementary school in early sixties. It is a paradox!!! We were 39 boys in the classroom and I would have killed anyone of you good people if the teacher had told so. And this still happens every day in Africa. Now I (hopefully) should know better.

Norbert, sorry for the Royal Highnesses who are just a target. BTW Swedish public service TV showed a document (well, 5 minutes only) from your former home town in Netherlands and the young people there seeking for a job and education.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bellamy Brothers

Whatever happened to? It strikes me that they took the Poco / Pure Prairie League / Flying Burrito Brothers approach and managed to cash in extremely successfully by having great hooks coupled with mild double entendres and word plays in the songs such as If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body (Would You Hold It Against Me) and Do You Love As Good As You Look. I guess they were mining the same furrow as Dr Hook with less inventive lyrics. Let Your Love Flow was unusual for a 45 rpm single in staying "in print" and available for about six years.

I'd forgotten about them until I was browsing in a record store and they played a mix CDR with the original Rolling Stones Faraway Eyes then Christine's Tune then Do You Love As Good As You Look, and there didn't seem to be any quality drop at all.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: norbert

front page news here. Awful.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Lovely Joan, thanks.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Poco 1972 France, Just For Me & You

Sleep is over rated. \m Also,a tough version of And Settlin Down, from Don Kirshner's In Concert, which, for you NYers, notice Also Broadcast In Stereo ON WPLJ 95.5 flashed across the screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0XMJRl7G1Y


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Posted by:

Friend0

Location: Yemensvelte

Subject: Poco, what else?

In case I wasn't clear, though they don't always sound as great as they used to, I love Poco and they leave you with a good gawddamn feeling inside. Every time i ever saw them I was glad I did and usually spent the whole time and hours after grinning like a happy idiot. They do that to ya, and Richie does it in triplicate.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Poco videos Stagecoach Sunday, a bunch at bottom of post

Link to On The Way Home, Poco at Stagecoach last Sunday. Below I;ll stick a bunch of other links.

gotta get some sleep, so this'll be brief. Great to see all this. Once you get to the youttube stuff, there will be vids form this show posted by several Poconuts, not just the ones posted by the guy who posted all these below. Some are fomo different angles, differtent quality, etc

Great to see George Grantham standing there singign a few years after his stroke. George was a incredible drummer, I really am not fond of the way Georgwe Lawrence sounds on drums. Grantham's singing voice ain't fully back, but to be honest he is singin as well as some of the other memebrs who have not had strokes,

Richie and Timothy B sound great though

Got to remember that these guys are in their sixties, some of them 67 already.

What this is about s great songs, great friends, and guys, who though they may have parted the group and may have had some minor differences ( as in the case of Mesina having some issues), never letting it get oyt of hand, never screwing each other, never thining about scvrewing each other, and alwasy rememebring firast and formeost that they really love each other and what they did togethwer. And it; s about Rusty and Pual never letting Poco die. They keopt it goign all these years. I caught a show a few years back in Alton Illinois, Paul might have been ill, his voice came and went, but I was glad I went to the show. Some of the show was absolutely magnificient. Grantham hadnlt had his stroke yet,also. Back in99 or 2000 or so, in Hillsboro, MO , they blew away the crowd at the Jefferson county fair. I look forward to seeign the show at Bethel Woods this year, unless soemthing happens and I end up in Steelville, Missouri before May 8 or 9.

Under The Gun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sNhvlpyOak...feature=channel

Rose Of Cimarron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePRsjgZxKVY

Heart Of The Night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJftuDdKAEg

Crazy Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDEWRsqvfYU

Keep On Tryin' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th7b9rrpJ_U

You Better Think Twice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEDVhOPzKBM

A Child's Claim To Fame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAPv7DANDR8

Kind Woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4giaSIVLMuM

Honky Tonk Downstairs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXm3Hj-snu4

Listen To A Country Song / Holiday Hotel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMDSSn3ioic

Pickin' Up The Pieces http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y-fnSFdl1Q

Call It Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8rbnT3fCg

Your Mama Don't Dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1LmKniHg6s

A Good Feelin' To Know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_ye9lGa338

On The Way Home http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv4xM3_ETlE



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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Subject: Bill M-David P

Bill and David, that outro was copped from the Dorsey Burnette tune "Lonesome Tears in My Eyes" which the Beatles had covered several years earlier.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Classic Rock Legends" blog.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Article on Bob Dylan meeting the Beatles.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "Music Ramble" cool classic rock artist site that's frequently updated.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Cool '50s, '60s & '70s classic artists site.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norbert

A terrible thing.

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