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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, December 2001

Below are the entries in the Band guestbook from December 2001.


Posted on Mon Dec 31 22:52:00 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

oops........

for all who wonder...... I spelled "newyear" deliberately so.....(think 'bout it!)


Posted on Mon Dec 31 22:33:01 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

HAPPY NEWYEAR TO ALL!!!...... € ;- )

From: 1€=1€

hey ILKKA!......just before they kill the French Franc (dating from "ones upon a revolution" ;-).....vanuit Nederland:......CHEERS BROTHER!......speak ya next year!.......


Posted on Mon Dec 31 22:22:22 CET 2001 from spider-wn032.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.162)

JTull fan

From: Richmond

Just wish to send a Happy New Year message to Jan and the rest of you. May next year bring us the peace and prosperity so lacking in 2001. 2001 for my household has been a mixed bag of extremes. 9/11, of course, was our center of gravity like it was I am sure for many of you. My dad also was stricken and (as of now) cured of one form of cancer and checked negative (so far) for suspected lung cancer. The year has been a financial disaster, but my wife and I remain employed. We lost many in the music world. Yet, I have enjoyed all of your company, welcomed a new niece (my second) into this world, enjoyed safe flights to 25 states for work and leisure, saw the Grand Canyon for the first time, dined in Cindarella's Castle at Disney Orlando, and just completed contsruction of our new house, into which we move on friday. See y'all on the other side of midnight!


Posted on Mon Dec 31 21:52:35 CET 2001 from spider-ntc-td051.proxy.aol.com (198.81.17.171)

dave

From: roswell nm

hello,Just like to say all the Music you made is great.thanks dave


Posted on Mon Dec 31 20:38:30 CET 2001 from ppp544.ac1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.6.228)

paul godfrey

Did anyone catch the Brian Wilson tribute last night. Paul Simon, Vince Gill, Elton John, Wilson-Phillips and many others guested. I was really impressed with Vince's vocal range. The show ended with Brian singing "Love & Mercy". This song is on my all-time top 20.

I often thought that Richard or Ricky could bring a special vocal arrangement to the song.

Happy New Year D. and John John and Jan.

Hey John, new in 2002. Standard comes to London and Paul Godfrey gets an oldies show on Oldies 1410. Hey, keep smiling and Shine On! =0) paulg


Posted on Mon Dec 31 19:48:38 CET 2001 from du-tele3-067.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.67)

Peter Viney

Definite reasons to be cheerful, 2002:

A new Jim Weider & The Honky-Tonk Gurus album in January. Less than three weeks away.

A DVD of The Last Waltz in the Spring hopefully with bonus tracks. Will the album be released? And will it have different bonus tracks to the DVD? (I predict so!)

A new Band box set later in the year. And will it have different bonus tracks to the remasters? (I predict so). Will it have any 1990s Band tracks? (I predict not).

I have tickets for Van Morrison for January 18th.

We continue to continue.

Reasons to be hopeful, 2002.

Will there be a Levon Helm and The Barnburners album in 2002?

Will Robbie Robertson do another album in 2002?

Reasons to be grateful, 2001.

‘The Sea to the North’

Leonard Cohen’s ‘Ten New Songs.’

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE


Posted on Mon Dec 31 19:05:09 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

Crabgrass: I heard the Buddy & Julie Miller show WAS excellent. I read somwhere that Gurf Morlix played bass for them at the Bottomline...I love all the work he has done with Robert Earl Keen...and that Julie sang a special song for NYC called "I Still Cry". Sounds like one of their best shows ever. I really hope to get to see them sometime.

I hope everyone here has a great New Year's Eve...stay safe...so that you may enjoy all the possibilities of the New Year! Thanks Jan...may you lead us to many more great Band treasures in 2002...Peace and Happiness to you and yours. I would like to send a special Happy New Year's to Levon, Garth and Robbie...I wish for all three of you...many successful and fulfilling pursuits. Thanks for the incredible music...SO incredible that the world remains entranced by it even today.


Posted on Mon Dec 31 17:38:53 CET 2001 from spider-ntc-ta031.proxy.aol.com (198.81.16.31)

charokee and sapphire

From: las vegas
Web page

you did good on your music i am proud of you now it is your turn to come to our web site and order a dreamcatcher from us lol right but it is stile your turn to come to our web site and vote for our little page on the contact us link on our web site and theres a guest book to and come and sign it


Posted on Mon Dec 31 16:15:50 CET 2001 from 01-038.046.popsite.net (64.24.231.38)

Jenny T

From: Ohio

Just wanted to say Happy New Year, and that I had a very good Band-ish Christmas: because my husband got me ALL the remastered CDs as well as The Basement Tapes. Not only does everything sound a lot better than my ancient vinyl, but the bonus tracks are a real treat.


Posted on Mon Dec 31 08:08:33 CET 2001 from 12-233-222-156.client.attbi.com (12.233.222.156)

Jose

From: south
Web page

Miss your updates


Posted on Mon Dec 31 06:15:36 CET 2001 from 2cust7.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.194.245.135)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn
Web page

Caught Buddy and Julie Miller's early show at the Bottom Line tonight. I got a "Standing Room Only" ticket and didn't mind standing one bit. Catch them if you can - I can't think of a live act I'd rather see more except for Richard Thompson. They opened with one of his "Keep Your Distance" and did Dylan's "Wallflower" as well as a lot of originals, natch!! Buddy is a guitarist's guitarist in case you didn't know. (Check their website linked above.) Excellent bluesy acoustic set from Chris Smithers who opened.

Apologies for offending any fans of P. Diddy, Michael Jackson, or Osama bin Laden.


Posted on Mon Dec 31 04:58:52 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

THANKS TO JAN FOR MAKING A PUBLIC FORUM FOR THE BAND.

HAPPY NEW YEAR JAN.


Posted on Mon Dec 31 04:51:30 CET 2001 from spider-wj063.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.48)

Ben Pike

From: Cleveland Tx

Peter V, just saw the Altman film with all the Brits. Some of it is so good I wished the whole thing was. It would be interesting to see what you think of this most American director working with this amazing British cast. Your link: Altman's masterpiece "The Long Goodbye" had a final scene that was an homage to the climax of "The Third Man"; a movie with a well covered theme song.


Posted on Mon Dec 31 02:15:23 CET 2001 from cm-24-161-24-150.nycap.rr.com (24.161.24.150)

kathy

What a thrill to have seen Garth at the Michael Franti & Spearhead concert at the Bearsville a few weeks ago. ( Michael is, by the way, one of the most loving, giving and socially concious artists I have had the pleasure of meeting ). Garth got into it with all the rest of us. What a great night. Happy New Year to all. Peace for all in the near future. It's our call.


Posted on Mon Dec 31 01:49:02 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp44.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.44)

Diamond Lil

It's hard to believe another year has come and gone already. My best wishes to everyone here for a happy, safe, and healthy new year.
And to Mr. "9 left" (geez...I thought it was 9 &3/4... you didn't do it _again_, did you?? :-)... much love and the 'best of everything'. (The rest of) This Aquavit's..for you :-) Hug.


Posted on Mon Dec 31 00:47:12 CET 2001 from sdn-ar-001ilurbap249.dialsprint.net (158.252.112.139)

Susan

Thanks for the confirmation. I thought it had to be someone other than Richard. There was some debate here, and picture comparisons were made, but we did not go as far as holding the record sleeve up to the tv screen. I think we need to get out more.


Posted on Sun Dec 30 23:42:16 CET 2001 from spider-te084.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.214)

butch

From: here, there & everywhere

To ALL of the friends & fans who came to see Levon & The Barn Burners, this year,,,,,,,,I say Thank-You & Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!

we had some good times out there & enjoyed our many new & old friends,,, from our friends in texas to Californias finest,,,down in Florida & right here , close to home,,,

ya'll came & enjoyed the guys music & spent your hard earned $$$$ for tickets,,,,

All the BarnBurners & Levon thank you,,,& we will see you in 2002,,, COUNT ON IT !!!!

so be safe, be healthy, be happy & remember those making the sacrifices for us all,,,,,,,, Happy 2002,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, butch


Posted on Sun Dec 30 23:40:46 CET 2001 from pc51-121.hiof.no (158.36.51.121)

9 left

Susan,

The "upper left guy" is Rob Fraboni, who produced (and played percussion on) Ricky's self-titled '77 solo LP. The cover pic is here:

http://theband.hiof.no/band_pictures/rick_danko_insert_front.jpg

Fraboni also appeared as producer/engineer on _The Last Waltz_ and _Northern Lights - Southern Cross_ and worked with Dylan and Clapton. He was involved in _Planet Waves_ and _The Basement Tapes_ and is credited on albums by the the Stones, Lennon, Bob Marley and Bonnie Raitt, to name a few. See allmusic.com for details. A more recent article on Fraboni can be found here:

http://www.transaudiogroup.com/press/Fraboni.html


Posted on Sun Dec 30 23:26:43 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-te062.proxy.aol.com (64.12.103.177)

Dave ~ (the drummer)

From: Pittsburgh, Pa.
Web page

Susan: The gentleman with the beard is Rob Fraboni, a producer that has worked with Rick & many "Band friendly" musicians over the last 30 yrs. or so.


Posted on Sun Dec 30 22:15:53 CET 2001 from sdn-ar-002ilurbap288.dialsprint.net (158.252.112.218)

Susan

Debate rages within this household. I turn to the experts for the answer.

Rick Danko's first solo album has a picture sleeve. On the cd the colored picture side of this sleeve appears on the back of the cd booklet. In the upper left corner there is a picture of a man with black hair and beard, and thick black eyebrows. Is this or is this not a picture of Richard Manuel? It's very close, but somehow the nose does not look quite like his. On the other hand, he looks very different in pictures, depending on the lighting and angle.

Answers will be gratefully received.


Posted on Sun Dec 30 21:01:09 CET 2001 from spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.159)

Ben Pike

From: Cleveland Tx

Crabgrass, thanks for the racism, it really brightened up my day! But don't we all know here that the cardboard cutout owns all the songs off "Big Pink?"


Posted on Sun Dec 30 18:30:39 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

To the person who asked to be anonymous who sent me the Doug Kershaw mp3, thank you. I’m still looking for the Pointer Sisters doing the “Shape I’m In”. Thanks and Happy New Year everyone. I know that the Pointers version is not that great; but I am a "cover" nut and I would really like that one. Thanks again.


Posted on Sun Dec 30 16:30:21 CET 2001 from spider-tk033.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.188)

h evans

From: alabama

For Christmas, my kids gave me a book called "Rockopedia". In the section on the Band, George Harrison is quoted as calling the Band, " the best band in the history of the universe". Cool, huh?


Posted on Sun Dec 30 06:38:58 CET 2001 from spider-wg064.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.49)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

What gives Crabgrass... no Garth predictions?... Thanks for the laugh anyway... Hey Pete, that BBs show was awesome... I will always remember it... but hopefully get to catch a future show, maybe a Gurus show next... and Lil' I'm so jealous... did they play anything from JAM!... it doesn't seem so long ago that I enjoyed the Pawling show just before the snowstorm... the only two shows I've seen in a while infact... anyway, I hope the food was as good for you... I loved it... OK Crabby... using my poor sike-ick abilities... I predict... Garth will retire in 2002... and 23 years later will release Garth 2... meanwhile it will take a few more years of John D pleading on this website for the R&RHOF to finally elect Garth as a sideman (some guy named Jan does the honors)... and despite the fact that I will then be about 63... I will still believe in my heart that the 3 remaining original guys will play together just one more time... and even though RR will look as old as the Badlands at this time... Tracy will still swear he's as charismatic as ever... and Levon's legend will co-mingle with that of Popeye, a sailor who used to drum with an old 90's group called the Hawks (after years of being too close to my paints my memory will fade)... and lastly, VH1 will definitely do a "Behind the Music" on something called the Road Warriors... a bunch of crazy train riding nomadic folk...


Posted on Sun Dec 30 05:38:48 CET 2001 from dap-209-114-161-244.nfas.monroe-tnt-1.sns234.pa.stargate.net (209.114.161.244)

Mary (bear)

From: Western Pa

Just wanted to say today would have been Ricks 59th birthday. I will always remember you and cherish the music forever. I will always love you Rick.


Posted on Sun Dec 30 03:45:26 CET 2001 from 1cust104.tnt30.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.193.78.104)

Crabgrass' Amazing Predictions for 2002!!

From: The Front Lawn

Okay, you've waited all year! So here they are:

1. Osama bin Laden will be arrested by NYC police after his taxi runs a red light resulting in a $50 fine and 30 day suspension of his hack license.

2. Robbie Robertson will engage in an extended instrumental jam after the R&RHOF ceremonies which will be completely edited out of the cablecast.

3. Australian singing sensation Nicky Love will not replace Britney Spears as the world's hottest female pop star but will remain the obscure virtual unknown that she is today.

4. P. Diddy will change his name to D. Puffy, P. Dippy, or P. Duffy - I'm not sure which.

5. Michael Jackson will undergo minor plastic surgery in an attempt to complete his transformation into a perfect double of Lon Chaney's Phantom of the Opera.

6. Robbie Robertson will be nominated for 2003 induction into the R&RHOF as a "Presenter."

7. Bob Dylan will be replaced by a life-sized cardboard cut-out on his next tour and no one will notice any difference except for the slight vocal improvement.

8. The remaining members of the Barn Burners will leave the group.

9. Elvis sightings will dramatically increase in the vicinities of Nome, Alaska and Albuquerque, New Mexico during the month of July causing the price of binoculars to skyrocket.

10. The classic Band song "The Weight" will be recorded by the youth market pop phenomenon 'NSYNC who will cite the famed '60s group as a "major artistic influence." Robbie Robertson will proclaim their updated version as "brilliant" and personally autograph the backs of his royalty checks.


Posted on Sun Dec 30 02:42:10 CET 2001 from spider-tm014.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.49)

JTull fan

From: Richmond

First my Hotmail died, then my Excite mail did the same thing. So, I apologize to any and all of you who emailed me and got no response. I am now using my real Compuserve email address at which you can contact me. One of you guys (I hope you know who you are) had contacted me for a particular Band boot, and I worry you think that I just forgot you. If this is you, email me at the Compuserve address and I will make amends.


Posted on Sat Dec 29 20:56:40 CET 2001 from london-ppp52015.sympatico.ca (209.226.247.96)

Mike Nomad

Re Hawkins, thnx.


Posted on Sat Dec 29 17:46:59 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

From: Toronto

I have one more request.

Earlier this morning I asked if anyone could send me an mp3 of The Pointer Sisters doing "The Shape I'm In" In my mind the only Band "cover" I was missing. There is one more. I don't want to be pushy; but this is also one that even in the good old days of Napster and my search in used record stores I cannot find. It is Doug Kershaw's version of "Rag Mama Rag." That song along with the Pointer Sisters "Shape I'm In" would make me a happy man. If anyone could send me an mp3 of either or both I would be very grateful. Thank you.


Posted on Sat Dec 29 16:08:34 CET 2001 from ppp286.ac1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.2.224)

paul godfrey

Web page

I received a gift certificate for "Moondog Matinee" on Christmas Day. After calls to all the London Ontario record stores ... there is not one remastered Band CD to be found anywhere in the city. Oh well I will just keep calling. Happy New Year & Shine On! paulg


Posted on Sat Dec 29 15:47:04 CET 2001 from grmn-189ppp235.dialup.valstar.net (216.37.189.235)

Diamond Lil

Aah... another wonderful show at the Towne Crier last night!Starting it all was 'solo Garth'.. a real treat indeed. He's just an amazing musician.. and he kept everyone laughing and mesmerized all at the same time. You're a one-man show Garth.. I love ya!

The Cromatix joined Garth onstage about a half hour later.. and were wonderful.. as usual. They opened with "Don't Wait"...which has a special meaning to me.. and I was pretty much a goner after that. A very nice "Happy Birthday" to Rick followed a sweet version of "Twilight"..which made me cry. A beautiful rendition of "No Division, heart and soul", a great "Blind Willie McTell", and an incredible "Chest Fever" were just a few of the tunes that had the small but passionate crowd clapping and singing along. Thanks Aaron, Marie, Garth and the gang for a great night! I missed you Maud. Hug.

On your birthday today, as always Rick.. I hold close the memory of you. I miss you.


Posted on Sat Dec 29 14:25:00 CET 2001 from spider-tm012.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.47)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

I'm curious about something and I want to take a poll of all of you. I've noticed this site slows down on weekends and over the Christmas holidays it has almost slowed to a halt. Is this because most of you read and post from work? Or do you mostly read and post from home. Personally, I do both, and while traveling post from hotel rooms, etc. Just curious about the statistics.


Posted on Sat Dec 29 12:40:26 CET 2001 from (209.89.149.113)

John D

I have a request from any Band fan who can help me PLEASE

This is rare for me that I cannot find a particular "tune" but.....If anyone has a version of the Pointer Sisters singing "The Shape I'm In"; could you e-mail me an mp3 of it please. I have searchd high and low through various collections, web sites Morpheus etc. Can't find it. Thanks very much in advance if anyone out there has it. I have literally searched everywhere for this track. You'll probably have to take it from Vinyl. Again thanks to anyone who can help me. Happy New Year


Posted on Fri Dec 28 17:01:51 CET 2001 from user-38ldnau.dialup.mindspring.com (209.86.221.94)

J Quest

From: San Clemente

I've tried pushing the Nick Lowe idea here a couple times to no response. I'm told there is a replay of Nick Lowe's recent performance at the London Palladium to be broadcast on New Year's Day @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/ There was a review of this show in a recent (maybe Dec?) MOJO page 137.


Posted on Fri Dec 28 12:19:28 CET 2001 from 85-pool1.ras11.ohclv.tii-dial.net (206.148.88.85)

Yaya

From: The Land of the Ice and Snow

'people moving in. people moving out, whats goin on? Pray to your higher power,I love youzze guyzz and by the way those of you that know ABOUT 'LIZ LUCK" Whats up with this 5 feet (see weather channel it really is 5 feet ) of snow in the only place in the Universe? in Buffalo ???

whatevvahhh Happy Christmas, maybe we are all supposed to be stuck at home.lalalalaaaa Panda Claus, Please, Please Baby please come Home.... (PhilSpector) I just wanted to say THANKS to all of my Band friends and watch for the TORCH! Christmasssssss......Christmassss...Play on Keep listening


Posted on Fri Dec 28 10:54:44 CET 2001 from spider-tp043.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.193)

Ben Pike

From: Cleveland Tx

Good albums of this rotton year. I avoided "Love and Theft" mostly BECAUSE of the toney think pieces tying it into 9-11. Finally got around to it a couple of weeks ago, and I must admit, it is supurb, like it much more than "Time Out Of Mind", and it has his funniest lyrics since the 60s.

I catch up with Ani Defranco albums a year after the fact, so this year it was "To The Teeth" for me, one of her very best. Should be listening to her latest about this time next year.

I like the Lenard Cohen live from 79 that was issued this year, lots of songs from his overlooked "recent songs" album.

Loudon Wainwright's "Last Man On Earth"; surely Mr. Underrated has come up with the best album ever about the death of someone's Mother, well, maybe a tie with Plastic Ono Band. Other than that it was oldies, oldies, oldies.


Posted on Fri Dec 28 05:51:43 CET 2001 from spider-wb013.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.153)

Stu Hruska

From: Westchester, New York

Jim Weider & The Honky Tonk Gurus Saturday February 16th at The Town Crier Cafe Rte 22, Pawling, New York 845-855-1300 www.townecrier.com. Professor Louie & The Crowmatix featuring Garth tomorrow night 12/28 at the Towne Crier


Posted on Fri Dec 28 05:04:15 CET 2001 from spider-tm082.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.82)

Calvin

Thought I'd join in. Best album of 2001 in my humble Opinion-Black Dahlia by Bob Belden-best described as a symphonic Jazz album, it is one of the most original albums Ive come across in 20+ years of being a hardcore Jazz fan. Best live show, the Todd Rundgren/Ann Wilson/John Entwhistle/David Pack/Alan Parsons Band and their Beatles tribute show. 2 hours of a bunch of seasoned vets just jamming their asses off and having a good time.


Posted on Fri Dec 28 04:36:54 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

Recently I mentioned that I had "dug out" my turntable for the first time in years and after purchasing a pre-amp I have been burning some of my favorite vinyl to CD. I'm having a lot of fun and finding a lot of gems.

Tonight I went back to the first two Seals & Crofts albums (before WB) on the Bell Label. Actually TA records which was distributed by Bell. As I listned to the beautiful "Gabriel Go On Home" I noticed and had actually forgotten that John Simon played piano and produced the album "Down Home."

Jon Hall, Harvey Brooks, Jim Rolleston, Greg Thomas and the wonderful Paul Harris on organ among others. It finished off a nice day.


Posted on Fri Dec 28 04:31:56 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

From: Toronto

Hawkins in London New Years Eve! Correct.


Posted on Fri Dec 28 02:25:14 CET 2001 from barrie-ppp55876.sympatico.ca (216.208.58.147)

Mike Nomad

Have unconfirmed report that Ronnie Hawkins will be on the bill New Year's Eve in London, Ont., at Victoria Park. Anyone from London, Ont., able to confirm this? Thnx.


Posted on Fri Dec 28 00:40:20 CET 2001 from spider-tn061.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.71)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Peter V, thanks for the info - it's on its way!

SRV fans, the new double disc, Live at Montreux 1982 &1985 is an excellant buy. It is similar to Dylan Live 66 in that in the 82 show, it is Blues night at the jazz festival and SRV and Double Trouble are the only electric blues band to play..., Stevie is looking at this as his big break but as it happened, they get booed louder and louder as the night goes on - It's strange to hear Stevie get booed. He was an unknown at the time and was totally heartbroken by the performance. Of course by the time 1985 came round, Stevie was well established as a great guitar player and the fans go nuts..., Great ripping guitar on both disc's!

I heard Junior Brown on FUV a while back at some live blues gig.., He ripped! So i went out and bought a cd of his (this is earlier in the year) It was too country for me.., WAY too country. The cd is called Semi Crazy. It has some great licks in it but i just can't listen to much of it. If there are better selections, I'm up for it because the guy can play guitar.


Posted on Fri Dec 28 00:35:35 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

I have to share...I just got a copy of the January 12, 1970 Time mag with The Band cover...in mint condition. I am so happy...now to find the perfect frame.


Posted on Thu Dec 27 22:51:55 CET 2001 from (63.143.93.254)

Pete Rivard

From: Hastings, MN

How about a "Best Live Shows of 2001" thread?

Two stand out for me this year, the first being the July 18th Barnburners show here in Minneapolis at the Cabooze. Ran into Dave Z there, it was my oldest boy's 21st birthday, so I got to have a beer with him and Z and watch the show.

I'll have to say that the November 9th (or was it the tenth) Junior Brown show at First Avenue was the topper. Junior Brown is a mindblower, and the centerpiece of his show was him doing an absolutely pitch perfect quote of the Close Encounters of the Third Kind musical conversation between the spaceship and the earthlings, which mutated into a medley of spaghetti western movie themes which mutated into Junior crashing through various guitar quotations like a drunk stumbling through a darkened garage at midnight and finally resolving on another pitch perfect rendition of Hendrix's Foxy Lady. Awe inspiring.


Posted on Thu Dec 27 21:22:04 CET 2001 from du-tele3-068.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.68)

Peter Viney

Brien – just looked up the Great Rock Discography, which gives the title of Jon Anderson’s album as OLIAS OF SUNHILLOW (my memory was poor there). It was released on CD in 1996 on WEA. I seem to think I’ve seen it in the UK recently (try Amazon.co.uk). While on the ‘Yes’ page, I noticed to my surprise that the West Side Story song they always did live is not on the first two albums, which I thought it was! I seem to think it was ‘Something’s Coming’ but I may be confusing this. I saw them three times in 1969 to 1970 – twice at the Marquee, but not since. They were very accomplished musicians, but I had a problem with Jon Anderson’s voice. I was discussing albums that I loved in 1970 yesterday, and it’s sometimes disappointing when you do re-buy them. My example was Blossom Toes “If Only For A Moment” which I used to play all the time in 1970. Playing it now, you have to say that the twin guitars are still great, but the lyrics are garbage of the worst order. “All we need is a Love Bomb …” has not stood the test of time. It’s hard to believe that I was playing these at the same time as the brown album, which still sounds as good today as it ever did.


Posted on Thu Dec 27 17:15:11 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Of all the recordings from 2001 that I've listened to, my clear choice for album of the year goes to Joe Henry's "Scar" (Mammoth Records). This CD showcases Mr. Henry's fine lyrical skills with intricate orchestrated arrangements. The featured musicians along with Mr. Henry include Brian Blade, Abe Laboriel, Jr., Bobby Maiach, Brad Mehldau, Me'shell Ndegeocello, David Pilch, Marc Ribot and a special guest appearance by Ornette Coleman.

The album opens with the haunting "Richard Pryor Addresses a Tearful Nation". Mr. Henry uses the tragic figure of Richard Pryor as the first-person narrator of the song, set in a minor key and played in what Ray Charles used to call "the death tempo". "I heard the piece as Richard's own paradoxical love song to America: hating it but still desiring and needing its acceptance", as Mr. Henry explained on his website. "We all have brief moments of clarity, where for just an instant we are allowed to see that, regardless of frustration and doubt, we are exactly where we are supposed to be. And we inch ahead, heartened, if somewhat tentative like a tightrope walker at a death tempo". Just a little over halfway through the song, the soaring lines of Ornette Coleman's soprano sax solo, edgy yet so lyrical in its majesty, evokes the haunting spectre of Richard Pryor's spirit.

The other nine songs on the album are equally intriguing in their inventiveness. In "Edgar Bergen", the song asks "Who is Edgar Bergen?", as Mr. Henry hints that he, as a songwriter, speaks through other characters, much like the puppet master suggested by the title. Perhaps this is the key to these impressionistic songs.

Some listeners may find the tango-tempo song "Stop" vaguely familiar. That's because Mr. Henry is married to Melanie Ciccone, who sent the song to her famous sister, Madonna. The famous one reworked the song a bit and turned it into an international hit on her "Music" album, renamed under the title "Don't Tell Me".

Unlike his sister-in-law, Mr. Henry has remained under the radar, developing a cult following over the years with a series of fine albums. From "alt-country" to impressionistic experiments, he has explored many different musical paths. With "Scar", his talents have culminated into an intricately crafted album.

By the way -- Band fans will be interested to know that Mr. Henry and his wife Melanie have an 8-year old son named Levon.


Posted on Thu Dec 27 06:19:44 CET 2001 from spider-wo061.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.46)

Nick

From: Virginia

Bashful Bill, I got "The First Waltz" video at a place called Rainbow Records in Newark, DE. It may have been the only one in stock but they may be able to order it. The show was a benefit for the Neon Street Programs for Homeless Youth and it's a Neon Street/Palm Pictures production. Palm Pictures has a web site-www.palmpictures.com. Speaking again of Blondie his ties to Richards must be strong since he sings backup and plays on the Stones' "Bridges to Babylon" cd and was on the tour as well. The guy has an incredible voice. Interestingly, Sugar Blue who has also played with the Stones, was a performer at "The First Waltz" too.


Posted on Thu Dec 27 03:20:06 CET 2001 from spider-te051.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.196)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Go ahead and break down Bill... You'll feel like you got an after Xmas 80% off deal... a real steal... I agree MattK... longer would have worked for me too... great movie though... and Pete R. thanks for the Bela recommendation... I hope the leftovers are tasting good out there... I lost a tooth but now it's on the way to being capped... I wonder what awaits the New Year...


Posted on Thu Dec 27 01:05:37 CET 2001 from syr-24-169-66-92.twcny.rr.com (24.169.66.92)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

Hey Nick, where did you get that video? I read aboutit in Goldmine awhile back, but have never seen it anywhere. Speaking of Blondie, he is credited with playing piano on the Keith Richards cover of You Win Again on the Hank Williams tribute Timeless. The song is coproduced by Keith and Rob Fraboni, who also has longtime Band connections. It is a fine album, with Dylan, Emmylou, Ryan Adams, Lucinda Williams, Johny Cash, Keb Mo, many others contributing.One of Santa's helpers, aka my hardcore deadhead brotherinlaw, burned me 3 very nice Deadshows, one which I was present at back in 74( 73 and 74 were their best years, IMHO).But Santa did bring me The Band VH1 Classic Album DVD along with a DVD player. Also two cool movies-Wonder Boys and Traffic. in the first Michael Douglas plays an aging pothead(with Dylan on the soundtrack), in the second Michael Douglas plays the U.S. governments drug czar hoping to finally win the (drumroll please) war on drugs. What Santa didn't bring me was Garth's album, or The Crowmatix Jams album, guess I have to finally break down and order them from Woodstock Records. So what did Santa bring you guys?


Posted on Thu Dec 27 00:21:05 CET 2001 from cr814537-a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (24.102.199.57)

Jerry Tenenbaum

From: Toronto

I agree with Amanda about Love & Theft. As they said on American Bandstand too many years ago, when we was fab, " I give it a 98. It's good music, it's got good words, and you can dance to it!"


Posted on Thu Dec 27 00:16:01 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tg073.proxy.aol.com (64.12.102.183)

Mike

From: Cincinnati OH

I love this website and I Wondering when the new DVD of the Last Waltz comes out and why Levon and the Barnburners won't come somewhere closer than Cleveland so I can make a show? MIKE


Posted on Wed Dec 26 23:51:15 CET 2001 from on-ham-a53-01-135.look.ca (216.154.51.135)

Bill Brush

From: Hamilton ON Canada

Have spent almost forty years listening to these guys. Have worn out two copies of the Last Waltz. There must be a DVD coming soon, no-one in this neck of the woods lists one for sale, please pretty please, do it soon. Love the web site found it by accident. FANTASTIC!!!


Posted on Wed Dec 26 22:07:10 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

Don: Are you talkin' about DANCE tunes for your party?? How about....

Tuff Enuff....The Fabulous Thunderbirds

In the Beginning....Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble

Love and Theft....Bob Dylan

ANYTHING YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON by these great artists....Carl Perkins, Billy Adams or Hasil Adkins.

A party with a little Rockabilly is always a happenin' affair! There is also lots of great dance stuff on Last Moving Shadows....

Most important...have fun!


Posted on Wed Dec 26 21:23:11 CET 2001 from cmldme-cmt1-24-198-97-183.maine.rr.com (24.198.97.183)

MattK

I was always more of a Narnia man myself, but...

I liked Fellowship of the Ring enough. Visually, it's very cool. Good performances all around. Big complaint was in the pacing.

To me, it was either 45 minutes too long or 45 minutes too short. They either should have edited down the plot to improve the pace OR they should have said f*** it and run it to a full four hours with an intermission between the council meeting and the beginning of the actual quest.

My preference would be to go long - it's not a little kids' flick anyway. The current length had me checking my watch and wishing some of the characters were flushed out a bit better, or perhaps some of the backstory from "The Hobbit" given a bit more presence during the opening narrative.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 21:13:05 CET 2001 from citrix2.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.7)

John Cass

From: VT

Hey Don that new years eve party sounds like a great time I wish I could make it but I will be seeing Richie Havens and Greg Brown at Calvin Theatre in Northampton Mass. I will recommend some great party albums though.

Leon Russell's Leon Live: great energy and rocken the whole way through

Allman Brothers Live at Filmore: nuff said!

Commander Cody's We Got a Live One Here: great bar/country party rock

Commodores Live: great long Brick House! get the ladies dancin!

Guess Who's American Women: seems like everytime a Guess Who's song comes on people love it!!

Lynard Skynard's One More For the Road: Nobody can deney even if you don't like Skynard that band could rip it up!!

hope you have fun!!


Posted on Wed Dec 26 20:21:44 CET 2001 from wcs2-pent-2.nipr.mil (206.38.114.100)

Nick

From: Virginia

By all accounts Lord of the Rings is a fine movie and I don't have anything against it. I just don't think this is the proper forum for discussing it. Apparently I'm in the minority so I'll leave it at that. On a happier note, I found a video copy of the 1999 First Waltz benefit concert for homeless teenagers (organized by Nick Tremulis) and I really like it. Rick's cohort and sometimes playing partner Blondie Chaplain has a fantastic voice and give a great performance. Rick Danko closes the show and does a fine version of "Book Faded Brown". It's probably the only time that song has been legally captured on video. The performers, which include Billy Corgan (backing his father who can really play and sing) and Ivan Neville seem to be giving Rick a warm and reverant welcome. After "Book Faded Brown" all the performers come on stage for a fantastic version of "The Weight". Rick let's loose nicely and it's a fitting finish. The movie is interesting not only for the fine performances but because stylistically it is patterned after "The Last Waltz" with Tremulis playing the role of RR. Very interesting with excellent performances and all for a good cause.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 18:57:58 CET 2001 from (63.143.93.254)

Pete Rivard

From: Hastings, MN

By the by,

I received Bela FLeck's "Perpetual Motion" and like Charley Young, it's hands down my favorite CD of 2001. As a banjo player myself, I may be partial, but if you want to hear Garth level musicianship on strings, listen to Bela Fleck.

It was a proud day for all banjo players when Bela's music was moved to the jazz section of most music stores (generally his work with the Flecktones) and now it appears he's the first 5-string player to be signed to the Sony Classical label, so that's another hurdle overcome in reestablishing the banjo as a legitimate instrument, as opposed to the centerpiece for all musical jokes not featuring an accordion.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 18:50:50 CET 2001 from (63.143.93.254)

Pete Rivard

From: Hastings, MN

Merry Boxing day all,

Whatever the hell Boxing Day is. I hope it doesn't require climbing into the ring with someone who's good at it.

Speaking of climbing into the Ring: I think the large number of Band/LOTR fans is both understandable and appropriate. I also attended the movie, with my youngest and two of his friends. They also, as well as I, visually confused Boromir and Strider. (I understand there was an Irish actor by the name of Stuart Townsend originally cast as Strider who was bounced off the set for some reason or another). None of them had read through the books, or the Hobbit, and enjoyed the movie thoroughly, though one of them took extreme umbrage to Gandalf being killed off. I decided to not let him in on how that plays out so he can enjoy Gandalf's resurrection to the fullest.

Musically, I always despised the insipid, milguetoasty Glen Yarborough work on the animated Hobbit. I don't remember a bit of the Bakshi movie's music, and always thought that those folks should have gone after the Chieftains or the Boys of the Lough. If we want to keep things Norse, there's a flourishing genre of acoustic Scandinavian music that can make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. But I thought the music for The Fellowship was just fine. And so was the movie.

So Tolkien hated Irish music? I understand he hated a lot of things. Like admiring fans and tourists on his lawn. One of my college English professors was sent packing by the old fellow, who apparently threw open his window sash and blasted off a string of invective at the young fellow, generally advising him to piss off and be on his way.

WHich is what I'll do at this point. Happy Holidays everyone.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 17:55:13 CET 2001 from spider-ti044.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.194)

Bayou Sad

From: ny

thanks Nick


Posted on Wed Dec 26 17:51:33 CET 2001 from wcs2-pent-2.nipr.mil (206.38.114.100)

Nick

From: Virginia

Bayou Sad, Good comeback!


Posted on Wed Dec 26 17:51:30 CET 2001 from spider-ti044.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.194)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

......by the way, I'm not a Lord of The Rings fan at all, and have no desire to rush out and see it, but seeing it discussed in this guestbook does not in any way make my visit here any less pleasurable. I may even, at some point further on up the road, rent the movie and watch it - because even thaough I'ts not exactly my cup of tea - it sounds like it dosen't suck.

Have another great day tomorrow.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 17:45:43 CET 2001 from spider-ti044.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.194)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Nick = try drinking some prune juice, and set yourself free

Also, I believe it's "further on up the road, you'll find I WASN'T lying".

Have a great day.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 17:25:08 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-te073.proxy.aol.com (64.12.103.183)

benpike

From: cleveland Tx

Nick, I feel your pain; but like people who get dressed up as Kligons for the Star Trek conventions; these Lord Of The Onion Ring folks just have to be tolerated. But always remember, just say "No" to Yes.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 16:30:05 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia
Web page

I've been spending some time going back over my choices for essential recordings from 2001. Two stand-out picks immediately come to mind: The magnificent, long awaited solo album from Garth Hudson, "The Sea To The North". A multi-layered look into the musical world according to Garth, with able assistance from his wife Maud and an intriguing cast of friends. Although the remastered "Rock Of Ages" is technically a reissue, the inclusion of a bonus disc of previously unissued songs, including performances with Dylan, make this not only the top live recording released this year, but one of the best of all time. I'll post the rest of my 2001 list in the next few days.

The current issue of STEREOPHILE magazine (Jan. 2002) has an excellent profile & interview of the North Misssissippi Allstars written by Daniel Durchholz. This fine, young blues/rock/funk power trio, features guitarist/vocalist Luther Dickinson, drummer Cody Dickinson and bassist Chris Chew. Luther & Cody are the sons of legendary keyboardist & producer James Luther "Jim" Dickinson. In the STEREOPHILE article, Jim Dickinson explains that, after he realized it was futile to try to discourage his sons from pursuing careers in music, he tried to "expose" them to everything he thought they "needed to know".

The North Mississippi Allstars recently released their second album, "51 Phantom". The majority of the songs on this effort are original, and the group took a truly collaborative approach to writng the songs. Their original material is "credited to the band as a whole, regardless of who made the greatest contribution to any particular song", as Mr. Durchholz explains in his article. As Luther Dickinson related to Mr. Durchholz:

"We all come up with different pieces of the music. When I bring something to the band and Cody and Chris do their thing, it just adds so much that it feels like we're writing together. We don't want it to be that Robbie Robertson kind of bag, you know what I'm saying?"

Do you think Luther's poppa educated his sons about a new kind of bag?


Posted on Wed Dec 26 16:20:00 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tb031.proxy.aol.com (64.12.104.31)

Dave ~ (the drummer)

From: Pittsburgh, Pa.
Web page

HAPPY HOIDAYS TO ALL.

J TULL FAN: Yes, that is indeed the voice of "Honeyboy" Garth Hudson you hear on "Youngblood." Back in the early 90's, while attending a Band concert at the Station Sq. Ampitheatre, I witnessed Garth mugging as he did his vocal part on that tune. It was a riot and he was beaming from ear to ear.

I'd give just about anything to be able to see Rick alive & well and hear Levon's great voice again ; like it was back at that concert. I'm missing them even more as I listen to Rock of Ages.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 15:55:33 CET 2001 from spider-wo062.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.47)

Brien Sz

From: nj

A lot of Yes music, The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge, Tales from Topographic Oceans and Relayer are very Tolkienesque in their lyric's as well as the Roger Dean artwork. Could be one of the reasons they were my first rock band, along with the fact they are superb musicians.

PeterV: Elais of Sunhillow(?) was one of those great trippy, experimental albums that was a favorie of mine in my hazier days.., And yes it was very Tolkienesque! When you opened the album, there was a 10 (give or take) page fantasy story with great illustrations.., I have been searching for the cd of this album for years but i guess its never been released. If anyone has this album somewhere in the back of their collection, I would be very interested in a burned cd of it (i'll pay all expenses). As for the location of my album..., It is but a forgotten memory.

And i just wanted to say that I saw Lord of the Rings for a second time and i still loved it..., Ohhhhh man, does my colon feel better..,


Posted on Wed Dec 26 15:25:52 CET 2001 from unprovisioned.centrivity.net (64.23.165.18)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Don Pugatch: Thanks for the invite! Can't make it but will be there in spirit. Suggest all live music as your theme. Rcok of Ages works as part of it is from New Years 71/72. Also recommend Taj Mahal's recent live 'Shouting in Key' to get the party going. ANYTHING BUT VH1's top 40 2001 countdown! DIFfERENT THREAD: On the Band's version of YOUNGBLOOD,on the chorus there are some unfamiliar voices, perhaps of Randy Ciarlante, Richard Bell, etc. But one sounds like it could be Garth Hudson. Any opinions on this? I believe it's the part that goes 'What's your name?'.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 13:50:04 CET 2001 from du-tele3-157.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.157)

Peter Viney

lye-water – When I did the article on ‘When You awake’ I said that lye-water wasn’t mentioned in Websters 3rd. Lye is the caustic alkaloid base of early soaps, but I noticed today that two out of three references in the Shorter Oxford are to lye as ‘water made alkaline, any strong alkaline solution for washing; any detergent material’ and ‘water impregnated with salts.’ Whichever way round it is going to be a disinfectant and the singer is cleaning his hands before his date with ‘the Captain’s daughter’. For some reason this becomes the ‘Captain’s doctor’ in later solo versions. The Captain’s daughter makes more sense, and this is one of the clearer bits in a pretty enigmatic song.

Now wash your hands.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 13:34:39 CET 2001 from du-tele3-111.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.111)

Peter Viney

Thanks for the kind remarks on my articles, Marsen.

Nick - On the question of fantasy films like Hordes of the Things being totally unrelated to The Band, let me quote J.R. Robertson:

There was a unicorn

and a dragon Queen

Beneath the burgundy sky …

Watching the DVD of Shrek on Christmas Eve (Executive music producer: J.R. Robertson) I was struck by the ‘dragon Queen’ again! Terrific verson of Neil Diamond’s ‘I’m A Believer’ at the end too.

I don’t think anyone will find any Tolkienesque references in Band lyrics, even though Tolkien and his imitators had a definite and usually undesirable influence on 60s and 70s lyrics. From the Guinness Book of Records longest LP title ‘My people were fair and wore the sky in their hair but now they’re content to wear stars on their brows’ (Tyrannosaurus Rex) through the more dubious hobbityness of Jon Anderson of Yes (Elias of Sunhollow?) to the swords and sorcery of heavy metal bands. One reviewer said that the star of Lord of the Rings was the scenery of New Zealand which looked as if it were breathed upon by album cover artist Roger Dean, which is a kind of rock world repayment to Tolkien.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 11:12:54 CET 2001 from spider-wo054.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.44)

Nick

From: Vurginia

Dear Erin, It makes less sense. Try the Danko/Fjeld/ Anderson cd and set yourself free! Merry christmas and a Happy new year!


Posted on Wed Dec 26 11:02:00 CET 2001 from 109.b.003.mel.iprimus.net.au (210.50.32.109)

Erin

From: Kallista

I think I remember reading somewhere that the 'wash my hands in lye water' line in 'When You Awake' was rather odd: always struck me that way, anyway... but I read something today that indicated that at least here in Australia, that was a reasonably common expression in the 19th century. I'm not sure if that makes it make more sense or less sense.

Merry Christmas everyone.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 10:47:29 CET 2001 from spider-wf014.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.139)

Nick

From: Virginia

Seeing movie reviews of sloppy dreck like Lord of Whatever, instead of good Band information, makes my colon clench. Can we please get back to Rick and the boys. Further on up the Road you'll find out I'm not Lyin'.


Posted on Wed Dec 26 07:37:48 CET 2001 from spider-wk052.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.172)

benpike

From: Cleveland Tx

The Angels play on their horns all day, The whole world in progression seems to pass by, But does Anyone hear the music they play? Does Anyone even try?


Posted on Wed Dec 26 04:45:29 CET 2001 from 1cust176.tnt1.lax7.da.uu.net (67.193.227.176)

Jackie Gabriel

Has anybody seen my old friend Ronnie Hawkins? Can you tell me where I can reach him. I sang with him in the 60's. I am presently residing in California and will be performing in Vegas, and would like to get in touch with Ronnie, if possible. Thanks, Jacqueline (Jackie) Gabriel


Posted on Tue Dec 25 22:49:33 CET 2001 from 24-196-225-108.charter-georgia.com (24.196.225.108)

Don Pugatch

From: Roswell, Ga

Having our annual New Years Eve get together, very imformal and of course anyone on the GB is invited, no kidding. Only problem this time, is you got to show up yourself, no ups, mail, Fed Ex or any of those ways to get here. Party starts at 8 on Monday evening (EST), to cheap to send indivudual invitations, need help first. Music is a priority at my home, need about 6-7 albums, CD, etc to play in sequense, any help.

Anyone who needs directions, just email, will get you here, now the return trip, no guarantees.


Posted on Tue Dec 25 22:42:11 CET 2001 from 24-196-225-108.charter-georgia.com (24.196.225.108)

Don Pugatch

From: Roswell, Ga

Crabby, got it, but your email is on the blink, must be a crappymailsystem. Hey, G Man, tell your Bills, thanks, sincerely Atlanta Falcons


Posted on Tue Dec 25 22:27:11 CET 2001 from notebk1.wdse.org (131.212.19.70)

Marsen

From: Minnesota

Greetings and Merry Christmas to all! The past few days I've been thouroughly enthralled in Peter Viney's notes on individual songs in the archives. Very well done, and a great read! Spent last night spinnin' The Brown Album, and Northern Lights/Southern Cross around the tree with a few strong Egg Nogs.........Also, anyone who has not read Peter's notes, they are absolute essential reading. Seasons Greetings!!!


Posted on Tue Dec 25 21:08:59 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

Web page

Merry Christmas to ALL......cheers! (hik)


Posted on Tue Dec 25 17:16:12 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tl051.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.171)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Merry Christmas all! May your day be festivus!


Posted on Tue Dec 25 17:02:42 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

From: SC, U.S.A

Merry Christmas to GBers and your Families! The best gift you can deliver is a cheerful, loving spirit and a warm, caring heart. Happiness and Meaning to you all, no matter what holiday you celebrate. God Bless and Peace On Earth!


Posted on Tue Dec 25 16:02:30 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp69073.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.187.184)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

Someday at Christmas men won't be boyzzzzzz
Playing with bombs like kids play with toyzzzzzz
One warm December our hearts will see a world where everyone is free

Some day at Christmas there'll be no wars
When we have learned what Christmas is for
When we have found what life's really worth
There'll be peace on earth

Someday all our dreams will come to be
Someday in a world where people are free
Maybe not in time for you and me
But someday at Christmas time

Someday at Christmas we'll see people
No hungry children, no empty hand
One happy morning people will share
Our world where people care

Someday at Christmas there'll be no tears
All people are equal
And no one will have fears
One shining moment my heart ran away
From our world today

Someday at Christmas people will not fail
Take hope because your love will prevail
Someday at Christmas a new world that we can start
WITH HOPE IN EVERY HEART

SOMEDAY ALL OUR DREAMS WILL COME TO BE
IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE ARE FREE
MAYBE NOT IN TIME FOR YOU AND ME
BUT SOMEDAY AT CHRISTMAS TIME

Stevie Wonder....SOMEDAY AT CHRISTMAS TIME


Posted on Tue Dec 25 14:44:54 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

From: Toronto

Merry Christmas everyone and a Happy New Year. God Bless!


Posted on Tue Dec 25 07:58:24 CET 2001 from 1cust159.tnt1.pocatello.id.da.uu.net (63.14.169.159)

rollie

Hey Moola Boola, Chill Bro! It's Christmas! Even heathens like Osama Uncle Dick and George gotta take a break sometime. Peace and Merry Christmas ya'll.!!!!


Posted on Tue Dec 25 06:20:14 CET 2001 from 43-127.018.popsite.net (64.24.179.127)

TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE RAMADAN

by: dbschneider

Twas the night before Ramadan, and all through the cave
Not a creature was stirring; it felt like a grave.
The turbans were hung by the fire pit with care,
In hopes that the Air Force would not soon be there.
The soldiers were restless without any beds,
While visions of air strikes flashed in their heads.
Osama in his burkha and I in my goatskin cap,
Had just settled down for a cold, barren winter's nap,
When out on the ledge there arose such a clatter,
I grabbed my Kalashnikov to see what was the matter.

Away from the racket I ran like a girl,
Tripped over a goat; into a ball I did curl.
The moon shone down on the new-fallen snow
And lit up the valley with an ominous glow,
When, what to my one good eye should appear,
But a dozen Apaches, and tanks in the rear,
And their leader, so fearless, his troops he did push,
I knew in an instant it must be George Bush.

More rapid than eagles his forces they came,
And they whistled, and shouted, and called out our names;
"Now Omar! Osama! Muhammad! Abdul!
We come for you now; we've taken Kabul!
To the top of the cliffs! To the back of their caves!
When you chose this war, you dug your own graves!"
As the dry leaves that before the assault choppers fly,
When they meet with an obstacle, light up the sky,
So up to the ledge his forces they flew
With full magazines, and flamethrowers too.

And then, in a twinkling, I heard with a thud
The explosions of Tomahawks; not one was a dud.
As I chambered my rifle, and was turning around,
Osama was there, disguised in a gown.

He was dressed all in drag, from his head to his toes,
And he said he would flee while I held off his foes;
A bundle of money he had stuffed in his pack,
He said "I'm going to Baghdad and I'm not looking back!"
His eyes were all glassy; he trembled with fear;
The American bombs, they rang in his ears.
He saddled his goat, then turned tail and fled,
But a Marine Corps sniper got him in the head.

I watched with cold fear as his body did slump;
The goat threw him off; he fell with a thump.
And so, there I stood, my plans all destroyed,
About to suffer a fate I could not avoid;

I dropped to my knees; asked Allah for help,
His voice boomed in my ears, "You ignorant whelp!
I gave you the Bible, the Torah and Koran,
But you were too arrogant to understand.
I told you to honor your neighbors and wives;
Not to enslave them, or degrade their lives!

You invoke My Name to sanction your deeds,
But you are the last thing that this world needs.
And so, I'll send you and bin Laden to Hell."
The last words I heard, as the bombs fell,
Were from George Bush himself as he mounted the wall,
"One nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all!"



Posted on Tue Dec 25 06:07:47 CET 2001 from 3cust237.tnt30.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.193.79.237)

Crabgrass' Special Xmas Brownies!!

From: The Front Lawn

Melt 3 lbs. dark chocolate in saucepan. Add 4 cups brown or turbinado sugar. Stir gently with wooden spoon on low heat for about 10 minutes. Add 2 cups chopped walnuts and 1 cup halved raw cashews. Remove from heat while continuing to stir. Mix in 3 shots of rum and 2 shots cognac. Add 1 and 1/2 cups organic brown flour, 1 pinch of salt, and 2 kilos crumbled hash. Pour into large size baking tray and place in pre-heated 360 degree oven for approximately 15 minutes. Remove and cool in fridge for 3/4 hour before eating if you can stand waiting that long. (Serves 1)


Posted on Tue Dec 25 05:42:16 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk064.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.49)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa. USA

Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy New Year to all !


Posted on Tue Dec 25 04:37:54 CET 2001 from dialup-63.212.131.81.dial1.losangeles1.level3.net (63.212.131.81)

J Quest

From: San Clemente

Happy Christmas all. I asked P Viney about this. What's the view about one of Nick Lowe's last 3 records making "the list"?


Posted on Tue Dec 25 04:10:29 CET 2001 from dialup-373.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.117)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

Mary Carried The Light........This Must Be.........

Three Angels Up Above The Street

Each one Playing a Horn

Dressed with Green Robes with Wings that stick out

They've been there since Christmas Morn

May You All Be Blessed with Peace this Season.....


Posted on Tue Dec 25 02:54:51 CET 2001 from spider-tp031.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.186)

Donna

From: PA

Wishing everyone, that Friendship, Laughter, and Joy, surround you all, this Christmas! John Donabie: this means you too. And I bet you thought I would forget about you! :D)


Posted on Tue Dec 25 00:08:21 CET 2001 from dialin-688-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.3.180)

Gene

Mr Gene's recipe

One part Johnny Walker (Scotch whiskey, not American Taliban), three parts Coke. Repeat as necessary. Smooth as silk!


Posted on Mon Dec 24 23:38:24 CET 2001 from cf5k.kolumbus.fi (193.229.30.2)

Cavalry

From: Finland

Christmas must be tonight. Merry Christmas to all!


Posted on Mon Dec 24 23:10:01 CET 2001 from spider-tk044.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.194)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Charlie Hawker: Bummer, most of my recipes take some time! Let me know if you are interested in just a good traditional homemade marinara sauce for lasagna, or my amazing Southern Noveau baked grits with goat cheese and sun-dried tomatoes topped with salmon!


Posted on Mon Dec 24 23:01:49 CET 2001 from sdn-ap-004castocp0119.dialsprint.net (63.187.32.119)

Charlie Hawker

From: San Francisco

Hey does anybody have any great recipes that they can share... I need something new to make for Christmas. Nothing in particular, I don't care if it is appetizer or main course. Just the old turkey etc. is getting pretty boring. We need something to spice it up a little!! Family secret recipes welcome!! (I won't tell I promise!!)


Posted on Mon Dec 24 20:06:25 CET 2001 from du-tele3-088.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.88)

Peter Viney

A very happy Christmas to everyone!

Brien – I wouldn’t worry about getting Germaine Greer as German girl. I’d think she’d find it amusing (the Lord of the Rings review she gave was uncharacteristic in its lack of humour).


Posted on Mon Dec 24 19:27:28 CET 2001 from spider-tr072.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.207)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

Germaine Greer, German girl - I simply misread Peter's post while i was typing mine. Didn't mean to offend..,


Posted on Mon Dec 24 18:08:29 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta021.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.26)

Bayou Sam

From: Long Island, New York - U.S.A.

"Christmas time is here again, ain't been round since you know when."

Merry X-Mas - Peace and Love to all of yooz :-)


Posted on Mon Dec 24 17:23:13 CET 2001 from dt053n2a.maine.rr.com (24.95.19.42)

Tim

From: Maine, USA

"I saw it with my own eyes, written up in the skies / But why a simple herdsmen such as I" ... My Christmas wish would be able to hear Rick sing that line one more time.


Posted on Mon Dec 24 16:04:18 CET 2001 from sqd40.nirai.ne.jp (202.239.129.43)

Fred

From: The Land of No Snow & No Chimneys

As it is officially Dec. 25th on my side of the globe...to one and all: MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Gotta go....Santa's cookies & milk aren't safe with me still awake!!


Posted on Mon Dec 24 14:51:52 CET 2001 from (194.202.248.19)

Sue Dobinson

From: England

Hi guys, love the site, only the second time I've dropped in but always a great read Germaine Greer is usually a righteous old poppet (ohhh she'd hate that!!) but this time she's wrong. The hobbits are hard working yoeman farmers but freemen and happy. The Orcs are The dark lords attempt to breed mindless slaves from captured dwarfs Happy Holidays and peace and all that to all Love Sue


Posted on Mon Dec 24 11:55:35 CET 2001 from i153-107.nv.iinet.net.au (203.59.153.107)

Nancy

Germaine Greer is, indeed, not German. She's an expatriate Australian, and a feminist writer - you may have heard of her most well known book "The Female Eunuch". My understanding is that she has lived in the UK for many more years than most of us have had hot dinners.


Posted on Mon Dec 24 07:30:42 CET 2001 from 2cust34.tnt52.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.194.244.34)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Christmas must be the day after tomorrow.


Posted on Mon Dec 24 06:21:47 CET 2001 from hse-toronto-ppp178546.sympatico.ca (64.229.83.135)

Blind Willie McTell

Christmas must be tonight.


Posted on Mon Dec 24 05:26:34 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

Please allow me to add one more disc to my "albums of the year" list--and it is one with a number of connections to The Band. John Mayall's brand-new ALONG FOR THE RIDE collection includes guest appearances by numerous Blues and Brit stars including Otis Rush, Peter Green, Mick Taylor, Steve Cropper, Mick Fleetwood, Jeff Healey, John McVie, Gary Moore, Shannon Curfman, Billy Preston and Steve Miller. It's a great stocking-stuffer for any blues fan, though there is a good measure of jazz influence tossed in, highlighted by the remake of Mayall's classic "California."

Speaking of Steve Miller, I recently received a copy of his NUMBER FIVE album from back in the days when he was a contemporary label mate of The Band, and I'd say that recording shows a lot of influence from our guys. He even pays a little lyrical tribute to their first album with the direct quote of "we can talk about it now" from one of the songs. There's also a great seasonal snippet of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" that pops up a couple of times on the disc. Parts of NUMBER FIVE sound a bit dated thirty years later, but overall it remains one of the more ambitious but successful projects of the "concept album" era.

Happy Holidays you all!


Posted on Mon Dec 24 02:15:30 CET 2001 from 38-pool2.ras11.ohclv.tii-dial.net (206.148.89.38)

Liz Yaya

From: Here there and every where

MERRY CHRIST- MASS

and the masses sing ....

how a little baby boy ,bring the people so much joy ! CHRISTMAS :)

lalalalaaa thanks for letting me share,thanks for the JOY, what a year EHHH????

names and money mean nothing,THANK you - just PLAY ON,pray for us all, & KEEP LISTENING...yaya


Posted on Mon Dec 24 02:11:58 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

Ok Rollie, sounds fair enough, you hero, But can you get pasted on it? Happy Holidays all!


Posted on Mon Dec 24 00:49:34 CET 2001 from 1cust7.tnt2.pocatello.id.da.uu.net (63.16.48.7)

rollie

Ok BEG, sounds fair enough. But can you get pasted on it? Happy Holidays all!


Posted on Mon Dec 24 00:19:39 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp70479.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.193.66)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

Since you posted a recipe Norbert.......here's one that has been circulating around work........low in fat, sodium, carbs.......but high in sugar......;-D

HAPPY HOME RECIPE

4 cups of LOVE
2 cups of LOYALTY
3 cups of FORGIVENESS
1 cup of FRIENDSHIP
5 spoons of HOPE
2 tablespoons of FAITH
1 barrel of LAUGHTER

Take LOVE and LOYALTY and mix thoroughly with FAITH.
Blend with TENDERNES, KINDNESS and UNDERSTANDING.
Add FRIENDSHIP and HOPE, sprinkle abundantly with LAUGHTER.
Bake with sunshine and serve daily with generous helpings.

HAPPY HEALTHY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE.....ESPECIALLY TO THOSE WHO SHARE THEIR PASSIONS WITH ME.......


Posted on Sun Dec 23 23:43:44 CET 2001 from 12-243-212-169.client.attbi.com (12.243.212.169)

King Whistle

From: Berlin, CT

Merry Christmas from a compulsive lurker and sometime poster,

Warmest,

King Whistle


Posted on Sun Dec 23 23:29:02 CET 2001 from mplsdslgw10poolb134.mpls.uswest.net (63.228.41.134)

P.S. 2001

Web page

much peace love to all this christmas. besides the one who died for our sins, remember the one who plays the most awesome keyboards for our sins-GARTH HUDSON.


Posted on Sun Dec 23 23:21:55 CET 2001 from akcf1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.202)

Rod

From: NZ
Web page

It will be interesting to see what Robbie comes up with for the Olympics. I hope he has the common sense to get some one to help him out ......and the name Garth Hudson springs to mind.

Merry Christmas everybody.


Posted on Sun Dec 23 22:31:47 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp209.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.209)

Diamond Lil

Wishing everyone a Christmas full of laughter, love, and peace. The traditional Christmas sentiment of 'peace on earth' would be the nicest gift of all.

God jul Jan. Elsker deg. Klem.


Posted on Sun Dec 23 20:03:00 CET 2001 from px1wh.vc.shawcable.net (24.69.255.202)

Cupid

Hi All, sorry I ,missed the Christmas party...nobody let me know it was on..I guess I've been banished from the inner circle for being away too much....They'd make me a Senator if this was a Canadian Parlimentary GB and I was away all the time..however I'm wandering way off here..Merry Christmas to all y'all and special Christmas Gooses [Geese?] to Donna, Calm, Lil, Dylangirl, Reggae Gal, and of course Rollie..Much Holiday Cheer to Fast Eddie Blayzor who with Mrs eb are enjoying their first Christmas with Lil Ed..Ho Ho Ho Cupid

Happy Christmas, War is over if you want it...Have a Peaceful New Year


Posted on Sun Dec 23 18:03:42 CET 2001 from dialup-67.25.123.164.dial1.stamford1.level3.net (67.25.123.164)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Just a note to say 'Merry Christmas' to all.


Posted on Sun Dec 23 13:17:53 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta064.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.49)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

I can smell conspiracy in the foot or so of snow that has just fallen... as my two hobbits and I ready for the big dig... armed with hot chocolate... and a ready to-go fire... wood burning, none of that wimpy gas stuff... anyway, as I begin the difficult task of putting the first hobbit into his snow pants... I ponder the conspiracy... of The Fellowship of The Band... and wonder if the Sea To The North is near... no, not, couldn't be... Salt Lake City?... I review my half-baked dream logic... Maud is Mormon, Garth mentions a Saga pertaining possibly to feats of gymnasts... and finally Robbie is going to do music for the Olympics... it's then I hear the drumming... of the second hobbit coming down the stairs... I am gonna have to go out in the cold soon I mutter... and then as I rotate the Owl Disc in my hands while whispering My Precious... I slip in the SeaD... the hobbits giggle... and we disappear into another new daydream...


Posted on Sun Dec 23 09:04:19 CET 2001 from sdn-ap-004castocp0028.dialsprint.net (63.187.32.28)

Charlie Hawker

From: San Francisco

Be Altitude is a great Staples album.


Posted on Sun Dec 23 04:32:40 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

And this one....


Posted on Sun Dec 23 04:30:36 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

Check out the link above....


Posted on Sat Dec 22 22:39:43 CET 2001 from ppp110.ac1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.5.110)

paul godfrey

Christmas Must Be Tonight.

There comes a time when one realizes that Every Day Is Christmas.

The Gift of Life is Greatest of All.

Then with Life some find Love. May that guiding Star 'Shine On' You Everyday. paulg


Posted on Sat Dec 22 22:35:57 CET 2001 from spider-wk022.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.157)

sam

and Hag.......sorry.............


Posted on Sat Dec 22 22:34:44 CET 2001 from spider-wk022.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.157)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Thanks to all who came to the Christmas Party in the chat room last night. I almost made it to the end, but I got too tired and left rollie and witt to lock up.


Posted on Sat Dec 22 22:30:22 CET 2001 from spider-wk022.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.157)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Ragtime = I believe that should be, Jan the Mon.


Posted on Sat Dec 22 21:34:40 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

Web page

testing......(vegetarian)


Posted on Sat Dec 22 21:29:59 CET 2001 from webcacheh05a.cache.pol.co.uk (195.92.67.69)

jay

Nooooooooooooooooooo, leeds united just lost 4-3 to newcastle,

it cant get much worse than that on a saturday in england,\

think i will put on jj cale and drink a few jars and all will seem better.

best wishes to all..........chill!!!!!!!!!!


Posted on Sat Dec 22 21:11:36 CET 2001 from dialup-67.25.135.200.dial1.buffalo1.level3.net (67.25.135.200)

G-MAN

HELP!! Anyone know where I can obtain,,,,,,,,Snooks Eaglin, "Soul's Edge"??? Out of production,,,,on the hunt!!!!!Thanks!


Posted on Sat Dec 22 20:36:49 CET 2001 from spider-wl022.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.27)

Donna

From: PA

Scott: This information is from Jim Weider's guestbook. Jim Weider and The Gurus new album is called "Remedy". It is scheduled to be released January 17th 2002. The album features 8 original tunes and 2 covers, "The Weight" and "Subterranean Homesick Blues". Special guest include, Garth Hudson, Mavis Staples, Merl Saunders, Tony Levin and more. A Must Buy!!!


Posted on Sat Dec 22 18:03:36 CET 2001 from dialup-093.cork.iol.ie (194.125.43.93)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

Laura P......in answer to your question....."Katies Been Gone"

Brian Sz....Germaine Greer is not German


Posted on Sat Dec 22 16:16:15 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tl053.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.173)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Peter: The German girl wasn't far off the mark.., The Hobbits indeed were a reflection of British upper class (well off not rich) The dwarves, indeed proud but nevertheless, more of the middle class (not always necessarily in their speech pattern). Read Tom Shippey's book on Tolkien and you will get great insight on the cultural developement of the books. It is fascinating reading!


Posted on Sat Dec 22 16:12:33 CET 2001 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

Xmas must be tonight (in 3 days ;-).

Don't have much to add in here lately - everything has been said...

Still listening tot messrs. Danko, Helm, Hudson, Manuel & Robertson which is enough for me.

Happy Xmas to all of you, especially Lil, Ilkka, Peter V., Sundog, Bear, Calm, Norbert, MattK, Pat B. and - last but surely not least - Jan the Man...


Posted on Sat Dec 22 16:07:22 CET 2001 from dialin-129-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.1.129)

Mike Lyons

From: Cold Spring, New York

Loks like Levon and the Barnburners have signed on with Piedmont Talent. Go to Piedmont Talent.com to get the latest news. Maybe a CD soon???? Mike


Posted on Sat Dec 22 15:50:15 CET 2001 from ip-209-23-4-97.modem.logical.net (209.23.4.97)

jack of hearts

From: N.Y.

I have the opportunity to buy my dad "The Classic Albums Series: The Band" on DVD and "The Band Reunion Show" (87 min. version). Has anyone seen these and would they be good gifts for a longtime Band fan?

Happy and Safe Holidays to all.


Posted on Sat Dec 22 13:23:38 CET 2001 from du-tele3-147.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.147)

Peter Viney

Hank – glad you enjoyed it too. Yes, doing The Hobbit in 3 minutes was always going to be a problem. Can’t remember whether I read it first or not. I think I did. I’ve seen a few TV discussions. On one, a biographer said that Tolkien had the aim of rediscovering ‘non-Celtic’ mythology, as Celtic mythology was well-known and he was after the other bits. Having said that, the elves seem to be more Celtic than Old Norse to me. And the hobbits are little people (but not THAT little). He then added that Tolkien loathed Irish music. Having listened right through the unabridged ‘Fellowship’ in the summer, they were right to ditch Tom Bombadil and also right to ditch Tolkien’s songs – a songwriter he wasn’t. I agree with you about the mix of English folk and Irish being hard to distinguish. The recurring soundtrack theme veers pretty close to ‘Wild Mountain Thyme’ I thought, (but there’s an argument over Scottish or Irish origin there). On the music, there was some DNA research that backed up the recent theory that the Celts never existed, in that the DNA of the west of Ireland, Wales and that of southern England is much the same. However, this is not a theory I’d care to expound in a pub in Kilburn! The daftest opinion on the film I’ve seen was Germaine Greer on BBC2 who said that the hobbits were an elite leisured class while the ‘enemy’ (she said dwarves, but presumbly meant orcs) were hard working people. She was trying to be provocative, but she also admitted that she totally failed to get the magic. I thought Marxist interpretations had died by 1989

Band link? Garth would have done the OST better.


Posted on Sat Dec 22 11:16:50 CET 2001 from spider-fra-tb061.proxy.aol.com (195.93.65.176)

Karl-Heinz

From: Germany

Merry X-mas http://www.oberndorf.co.at/museum/


Posted on Sat Dec 22 05:31:59 CET 2001 from pool-141-150-93-63.mad.east.verizon.net (141.150.93.63)

Scott

Anyone out in The Band land have any idea if Levon and The Barnburners are going to put out a cd ??? When is the new Honky Tonk Gurus cd coming out ?? More attention should be given to this very talented group......


Posted on Sat Dec 22 04:40:47 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-th034.proxy.aol.com (64.12.102.34)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Thought you guys might like this as a little warmup for tonight's Xmas party chat (I'll be there too)... anyway, I just read an article on the world's best jokes as voted on by different countries... and here's the one from Canada: What do you call a woman who can balance four pints of beer on her head?... Beatrix (Think "tricks with beer" and the joke comes into focus. Or not.)... Favorite 3 songs: If You Could Read My Mind... You Got To Lively Up Yourself... and ta-dah... The Breakers... Great to hear Robbie's doing that opening Bones... I hope he can pull it off... Happy Holidays everybody, and safe travels... I hope somebody posts on the shows too... P.S. - If my Lord of the Rings comments came off too negative, my apologies (assuming anybody read my post)... anyway, I loved it... and followed it up with a guud party... and a few too many drinks to help darken my tone... I'm gonna see it again too... the movie that is... tonight I'm sticking to hot chocolate...


Posted on Sat Dec 22 02:32:22 CET 2001 from 1cust115.tnt1.pocatello.id.da.uu.net (63.14.169.115)

Suggestions for Staples LP????...............

I'm ashamed to ask this in public,but.....any suggestions on the most classic Staples Singers recordings? Stax era? whaaaa???????/-Thanks --Rollie


Posted on Sat Dec 22 01:15:36 CET 2001 from pm3-pt3.pcnet.net (206.105.29.77)

Laura P.

From: East Berlin, CT
Web page

Bayou Sam - I'll be there.

Hypothetical fantasy question: If you were at a solo Richard show at the Getaway Club in Woodstock, circa 1985, and you could call out from the audience and request any song you wanted, what song would you request?


Posted on Sat Dec 22 00:36:22 CET 2001 from modem-87-26-60-62.vip.uk.com (62.60.26.87)

union man

And turn it up loud


Posted on Sat Dec 22 00:34:26 CET 2001 from modem-87-26-60-62.vip.uk.com (62.60.26.87)

union man

I'll be honest with you. I couldn't pick my three favourite songs any more than I could pick my three favourite films. But stupidly enough, albums are no problem: Hatful of Hollow by the Smiths, The Band by The Band and The Who Live At Leeds. Anybody out there who ever had any feeling for Live At Leeds should buy the new c.d. I'm only a young 'un, and this album was cut before I was even born, but I've been listening to those original six tracks for seventeen years and it's only now I'm hearing it in some sort of context. To hear the likes of "Tatoo" and "A Quick One" with the original banter and crowd noise is like lifting a long black veil. To read the sleeve notes is, as ever with The Who, like reading something that was left out of Spinal Tap for being too ridiculous, but they themselves were never ever corny. Buy it this Christmas! It's Not Corny!


Posted on Fri Dec 21 23:27:20 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk012.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.22)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Christmas Party - tonight (Friday) in the chat room. 11:00 pm eastern time. BYOB


Posted on Fri Dec 21 21:46:51 CET 2001 from dialin-1220-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.5.204)

Gene

Nice venue for Niki Love!!!!


Posted on Fri Dec 21 20:12:42 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

From: CT

Salt Lake City is getting ready for the Winter Olympics, and I am amazed what a musical event it is becoming. Sheryl Crow, Dave Matthews Band, Bon Jovi, 'N Sync, Creed and a million more acts are performing during the event.

Also, our very own Robbie Robertson has been selected to write original music for the Games' opening ceremonies.


Posted on Fri Dec 21 19:06:29 CET 2001 from (164.36.142.217)

chris walsh

From: UK

leslie west, one ofthe best guitarists . even though he is not too keen on guitars with no heads on .(night of the guitar). theme from an imaginary western was out of this world !


Posted on Fri Dec 21 18:49:46 CET 2001 from sid47.revealed.net (208.23.178.190)

Mike

From: Iowa

Oops, I meant David and not "Don". Don't ask me where I got that from. Mind is busy with Christmas I suppose. Peace.

Mike


Posted on Fri Dec 21 18:47:51 CET 2001 from sid47.revealed.net (208.23.178.190)

Mike

From: Iowa

Yeah, Christmas Must be Tonight is a really good song. Too bad The Band never recorded an album of X-mas standards with their own twist in them. Tha't have been nice.

Don, good point. The holiday season makes me relaize that family and friends are most important to me. Lest I forget. I do find that I enjoy The Band's music best during the fall and winter months. Maybe that's me being quirky. I think I'll go put on the Brown Album now. Peace...

Mike


Posted on Fri Dec 21 17:14:04 CET 2001 from citrix5.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.9)

John Cass

From: VT

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL IN THE GB!!!!!

I AM GOING TO CRANK CHRISTMAS MUST BE TONIGHT.... EVEN THOUGH IT WAS SAID TO ME NOT ROCKEN ENOUGH... WHO CARES!!!!!!


Posted on Fri Dec 21 17:03:53 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

With the arrival of the winter solstice today, cold weather has finally gripped us here in the South. It's also a time of reflection with the holidays and the end of the year at hand. And what a stressful year it's been! After burning 100 days, the fires amid the rubble at the site of the World Trade Center towers have finally been exinguished. But fires still burn within many broken hearts, and so many face this holiday season with overwhelming sorrow gnawing deep in their souls.

It is a time to seek the comfort of family, friends and faith. A time to try to renew one's inner strength. A time to just hold on to those near & dear to us and to give & receive whatever we can muster.

Maybe we can find the time to sing & listen to those favorite songs that somehow bring warmth to our hearts now facing the barren cold of winter. Let's share what we can with family and friends. Happy holidays to everyone in the guestbook.


Posted on Fri Dec 21 15:53:08 CET 2001 from m124-133.on.tac.net (209.202.124.133)

Bill

From: Toronto

Thanks for the interesting entry about Adderley / Zawinul / Weather Report, Pat. The Hawks were fans of both Julian and Nat Adderley apparently, as Nat's "Work Song" was in their stage repertoire. It was also on a 45 by Ritchie Knight and the Midknights, a Toronto sub-Hawks group of the early and mid '60s. The record features a notable Robbie-ish guitar solo by George Semkiw, and introduces the piano of a young Richard Bell. In addition, the song has long been in the repertoire of local great Eugene Smith, initially as singer of another sub-Hawks group, Jay Smith and the Majestics, and now as an itinerant (and brilliant) solo performer. It's on his highly commendable recent CD, Eugene Smith's Greatest Hits, Volume 1 - which is mostly sold from the stage.

I saw Joe Zawinul and group open for Yousu N'Dour (sp?) at Thomson Hall about a dozen years ago. Odd pairing, to say the least. So odd that at least half the audience left by the end of N'Dour's first tune. (Not me - he's what we'd come for.)

Pat also mentioned Oscar Peterson and Wayne Shorter. A link there would be that Wayne's father and two uncles were part of the Montreal jazz scene for some years in the '30s and '40s, I believe. If I'm not mistaken, while Wayne's father returned to the States, the other two didn't. No doubt they crossed paths with Oscar many many times in his early days.

One final note: Oscar's long-time bassist, Ray Brown, thumps along like crazy on a great rockin' 45 from 1957 by Yonge Street fixture Tommy Danton and the Echoes. Anyone who cares can find it on rockabilly comp CDs released a few years ago by Bear Family in Germany and the Collectors label in the Netherlands.


Posted on Fri Dec 21 15:40:47 CET 2001 from modem042.phl-tc03b.fcc.net (63.121.117.129)

bassmanlee

From: DE, USA

Pat - Thanks for that Band/Zawinal link. I've always had a fondness for WR. I think they are one of the (very) few jazz-rock fusion artists whose output has stood the test of time. Black Market and Sweetnighter in particular. I've just received the Miles Davis Bitches Brew (I opted for just the original rather than the complete sessions), and hope to trace JZ back through it. Maybe Cannonball will be next.

Left Lucinda Williams' Essence off of my short notable 2001 releases list. A great record. The title track should have been a hit. Too real for radio. And it was produced by Charlie Sexton, so there is a Dylan connection.

Also left Vince Gill's Let There Be Peace On Earth Christmas album (his first, he has two) off of my top ten. It contains an original song, "It Won't Be The Same This Year" that is so moving ... I've tried to sing it, but can't get through it without tears. The first time I saw Vince, around '77 or so, he was playing lead guitar for an (re-incarnation of Pure Prarie League. This version had a horn section, and during the show they did a wicked Weather Report inspired instrumental (a la Feat's Dog Day Afternoon) in which Vince and the one of the horn men on English Horn (!!?!) traded off smokin' licks. Hot stuff. If you get a chance to see/hear him, don't write him off as a Country sap. The man can play (and sing). During a recently re-broadcast "Live By Request", he received a call from Chet Atkins. Not bad company, that.

jh, hope to finally get the long-promised package off to you today!


Posted on Fri Dec 21 13:26:49 CET 2001 from dialup-350.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.94)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

I kinda figured that "Lord of The Rings" would somehow be discussed here..........I went to see it last night.......

The main problem with a cinematic version of it is the old thing of you'd wanna read or see a movie of "The Hobbit" FIRST........ before "Lord of The Rings".........

Typical hippie conversation (circa 1968 or thereabouts):

"Dude....Have read 'Lord of The Rings' by Tolkien, yet?"

"No, man, I'm reading "Dharma Bums"

"Dude !.....you should read 'Lord of The Rings'.....it's Far OUT!!!"

"Really?"

"But you should read "The Hobbit", first, dude......."

"Wha'?"

"and get 'Music by Big Pink' by that group that backed up Dylan before his crash, they call themselves 'The Band'...."

"The Who?"

"No, dude, The Band!"

........and so on and so on........

But it's TRUE!...."The Lord of The Rings" does not make any sense unless it's preceeded by "The Hobbit".....This is what I found frustrating at the start of the film.......even when I read The Books. I had already read "The Hobbit" so it was cool for me but I suspect most folks who've never seen or heard of it before were mystified as to exactly what a hobbit is and how that whole world invented by Tolkien works or exists......and I must agree with Peter Viney....I was a bit confused by the 'Irish' lilt to some of the soundtrack......I mean, I had no idea that Tolkien disliked Irish music (how do you KNOW that Peter? Who and what exactly did'nt Tolkien like about Irish trad.?), but I woulda thought the soundtrack music woulda been more MiddleAges English folk....although, at a certain point, MiddleAges English Folk Music and Irish Trad. all become the same thing.......

Having said all THAT......I sat there ENTRANCED for three hours last night....blown away by it. A great show......and folks in the crowded cinema did not stir once, rivetted to their seats......and I was probably the only hippie amongst them......I'm looking forward to the next one.........'tho I still think the shoulda done a short film of "The Hobbit" first.......


Posted on Fri Dec 21 11:11:04 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp71661.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.197.232)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

Last Fave List.....Short List......;-D

Jesse Colin Young....SONG FOR JULI....will please anyone
Van Morrison Lonnie Donegan Chris Barber....THE SKIFFLE SESSIONS....LIVE IN BELFAST....if Van is sooooo grumpy.....how come he is able to collaborate with soooooo many musicians?
Tanita Tikaram....ANCIENT HEART....very deep beau...ti...ful... voice
Steel Pulse....SMASH HITS....English reggae....my fave.....YOUR HOUSE....catchy groove and great lyrics
Emmylouuuuu Harris....RED DIRT GIRL....
Velvet Underground....Velvet Underground....THIRD LP
Sade....DIAMOND LIFE....Karl Lagerfeld's girl can sing with a smoooooooothe groove
Joan Armatrading....JOAN ARMATRADING....another distinctive English voice
Jimmy Cliff....GIVE THANX....absolute fave recording ( I have some songs taped from an lp....if anyone has original please let me know....no longer available) and soundtrack THE HARDER THEY COME
Buddy and Julie Miller....BUDDY AND JUDY MILLER....voices work very well together

Speaking of Brenda Lee....I have her singing YOU'LL NEVER KNOW....with one of my absolute fave singers and writers....WILLY DEVILLE....and Willy sings THE LOVERS....on an Edith Piaf Tribute recording....ain't no question about it....this guy can sing from his heart like the best of them....:-D

I think GODDESS IN THE DOORWAY....is Mick Jagger's best solo effort to date....half of the songs are great....

Bob Dylan's LOVE AND THEFT....great to hear live....but it still doesn't rock my world at all....except for MISSISSIPPI.......Bob sounds flat.....his voice isn't very inspiring here.....and I don't find his lyrics resonate with me the way the trilogy recordings do or even....DESIRE....I hear passion and energy there.....but in all fairness this year's concert......VERY MEMORABLE!


Posted on Fri Dec 21 05:44:39 CET 2001 from dialup-209.244.67.67.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (209.244.67.67)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

I believe it was Levon who brought up how influential Cannonball Adderly's group was on the young Hawks, how exciting it was to be playing Younge Street near musicians like Cannonball and Oscar Peterson. Notable is the Viennese pianist who was playing with Cannonball at the time, Josef Zawinul. He possessed monstrous technique but wrote beautifully accessible songs like "Mercy, Mercy, Mercy" a hit for both Cannonball and The Buckinghams. He was a very funky player ala Ray Charles, and there's no doubt that the young Hawks--especially the keyboardists--learned a thing or two from this gifted musician.

Zawinul left Cannonball in the late 60's and recorded with Miles Davis on In A Silent Way and Bitches Brew but never toured with the Dark Prince. Of course, the Band thought enough of Miles to have him open for them at the infamous Hollywood Bowl concert. Zawinul however was tired of being a sideman and formed Westher Report with saxophonist Wayne Shorter. That group ended up winning Downbeat's Group of the Year for 15 years in a row. In the mid-70's, I recall both Elton John and Bill Payne from Little Feat referencing WR as the type of quality musical aggregation to shoot for. I don't think it's a coincidence that Joe's interest in synths paralleled Garth's. It's also interesting that Garth's solo on Shape I'm In sounds like it's coming from the same place as Zaminul's solo on A Remark You Made. I also think, in a very real way, that although WR and The Band are stylistically miles apart, they both represent an attempt to synthesize disparate musical elements into a new, wholly original form.


Posted on Fri Dec 21 03:01:12 CET 2001 from spider-wb013.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.153)

JohnG

From: Long Beach N.Y.

Speaking of Love and Theft,,,,is it me or do others find many of the cuts oddly familiar in a certain respect...not Dylanesque,,,,but something that I have heard in the past from different venues,,,,all very catchy....or is this just the Dylan mystique....Would he put one over on us ??? Ya never know.............don't take this the wrong way..I think it's a great album John


Posted on Fri Dec 21 02:00:20 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

From: testing back and forwards, all according to the modern rules
Web page

christmas test #1


Posted on Fri Dec 21 00:45:56 CET 2001 from 1cust174.tnt4.poughkeepsie.ny.da.uu.net (63.17.110.174)

Hi

Peter may be right about Love and Theft being not in Highway 61, Blood on the Tracks or Blonde on Blonde's league but those other ones he mentions: Street Legal,Before the Flood or 10 others I'll have to respectfully disagree.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 22:43:29 CET 2001 from du-tele3-063.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.63)

Peter Viney

Oh, and Dylan makes five. Maybe. Love & Theft is not really in the same league as his other nominations this last week- Blonde on Blonde, Blood on the Tracks, Highway 61, Before the Flood, The Basement Tapes, Street Legal … or ten others not nominated this week. A great album for 2001. But maybe a middle-ranker in terms of his whole career.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 22:18:18 CET 2001 from du-tele3-176.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.176)

Peter Viney

Top 10s of 2001 - will consider. Not sure there are ten truly worthy candidates. At a thought, Leonard Cohen, Garth Hudson, Mercury Rev, Laurie Anderson are all worthy inclusions, i.e. comparable to recent top 10 listings - but that's only four.

Brien: after we came out of Hords of the Things we spent an hour discussing it, and I want to see it again soon – our local cinema is booked solid until after Christmas which is unprecedented. As they have one screen vastly bigger than the others, I don’t want to see it on the smaller ones (they’re sure to add more screens with this demand). Still talking about it today. I admire the way Jackson condensed and sequenced it and a prologue was an essential replacement of the reported narrative interspersed through the book. I agree that his achievment is that you’re happy to go along with it, but for people who know the book, I suspect a second viewing will improve on the first because you’ll be able to stop noticing plot changes and so on. Where Jackson failed throughout was ‘tension’ – that Speilberg factor. Partly this was putting too much in the shop window in the prologue as I said, but he doesn’t have Speilberg’s fine sense of timing and cutting. The Jaws leaping out of the water / helicopter looming over the hill effect. He had several possibilities for doing this, but telegraphed every one of them by cutting to the looming menace before the protagonists saw it. Doing this lessens your identification with the characters because of your greater knowledge. This is Scriptwriting 101. I would lengthen the time on the road when the Black Riders first appear – that’s chilling in the book, too sudden and too close in the film. I’d create more time by cutting 50% of the rock troll in Moria where I felt the sfx (most unusually) creaked, and in particular the soundtrack smoothing was poor. (The dwarf joke got the best laugh, but there were at least three points where a “wisecrack” felt out of context.) BUT whatever anyone says, it is essential viewing – but not the ‘greatest film ever’ which a few critics have actually called it.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 22:18:15 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-te032.proxy.aol.com (64.12.103.162)

Friend Indeed

From: Top of the World, Ma

Was just doing some pre-Xmas cleaning and - lo and behold! - what did I find but an extra copy of "A TREE WITH ROOTS." Sealed, of course. Original Scorpio release, naturally. 4 CDs of the Basement Tapes, more complete and sounding better than ever before. Deluxe packaging, too: Quadruple foldout with 8 color photo panels, individual picture sleeves for each disc, 2 booklets, and a poster. The perfect holiday gift for the one you love the most. Or you could give it to someone else. Interested? Contact me while I'm in this insanely cheerful holiday mood.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 21:29:15 CET 2001 from unprovisioned.centrivity.net (64.23.165.18)

JTull Fan

From: my desk

Rock and Roll Museum: Yes. Hall of Fame? NO! But I guess it's too late and it's done. I hate the popularity contest notion of it; art is subjective, unlike a sports Hall of Fame, where you can look at stats, averages, percentages, etc. For music, you can count record sales but if that were the only criteria we would have Britney Spears and the Back Street Boys in the R&R HOF. I would have preferred a museum dedicated to the music to highlight all significant artists regardless of how many votes they got from a selection committee.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 19:55:52 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

As with that of the Baseball Hall of Fame, it's easy to find flaws in the induction process for the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame. The sheer numbers limitation of five to seven nominees a year is a factor. Then there's the short-term memory factor where often artists with long, distinguished careers get passed over in favor of those of a more recent vintage who, although influential, weren't around very long.

A good example of the latter is Buffalo Springfield, a fine & extremely influential group, who nevertheless existed for a mere 25 months and two albums before they broke up. Not to say they don't deserve the recognition, which I feel they do, but they made it in rather quickly after becoming eligible under the 25-year rule. You see, many who are nominated each year don't get voted in. I believe it took Solomon Burke around nine nominations before he made it.

Artists become eligible 25 years after the release of their first recording. It should be noted, that there was little doubt in the minds of the judges when it came to considering The Band -- they were inducted right away in 1994.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 19:29:15 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

OK, just to show that I'm not stuck in 1973 (see my previous top ten album list), here are my favorite releases of 2001:

1) Bela Fleck- PERPETUAL MOTION

2) Lucinda Williams- ESSENCE

3) John Hiatt- THE TIKI BAR IS OPEN

4) Mary Chapin Carpenter- TIME SEX LOVE

5) Bob Dylan- LOVE & THEFT

6) Los Straitjackets- DAMAS Y CABALLEROS!

7) Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band- LIVE IN NEW YORK CITY

8) Various Artists- I-10 CHRONICLES, VOLUME 2

9) Various Artists- GOOD ROCKIN' TONIGHT: A TRIBUTE TO SUN RECORDS

10)Various Artists- PAPA NEZ: A TRIBUTE TO MICHAEL NESMITH

Now I'm off to work on a top ten list of albums to be played at full volume into the ears of music-hating, death-embracing members of the Taliban and Osoma's shrinking network...


Posted on Thu Dec 20 19:01:55 CET 2001 from citrix3.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.8)

John Cass

From: VT

I also have a large collection of vinal 1200 or so I was thinking of a list from my records and these are what I have been listening to latley.

MANCE LIPSCOMP: VOL 6

MUDDY WATERS: SUPER BLUES JOINING FORCES WITH BO DIDDLEY AND LITTLE WALTER

EARL HOOKER: HOOKER AND STEVE MILLER

MISSISSIPPI FRED MCDOWELL: DELTA BLUES

STEVE CROPPER, ALBERT KING, POP STAPLES: JAMMED TOGETHER

MEMPHIS SLIM: MEMPHIS BLUES WITH ROOSEVELT SYKES

JIMMY REED: LIVE AT CARNAGIE HALL

FURRY LEWIS: SHAKE EM DOWN

JOHN CEPHAS & PHIL WIGGINS: GUITAR MAN

TAKOMA BLUES SERIES: DR. ROSS ONE MAN BAND

gotta love the blues!!


Posted on Thu Dec 20 18:50:46 CET 2001 from (12.33.126.141)

John W.

From: NYC

Top 10 Albums: The Band - Brown Album, Rock of Ages, Stagefright. Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run, Darkness on the Edge of Town. The Beatles - Meet the Beatles. Stevie Wonder - Songs In the Key of Life. The Who - Who's Next. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory. Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy. If there is any room for compilations, I have to include Chuck Berry - The Great 28; The Beach Boys - Greatest Hits, Vol. 1; Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons - Anthology.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 17:30:41 CET 2001 from (208.11.92.3)

Bud

From: Cleveland, OH

Thank you, Ray Pence. My point regarding the Rock HOF wasn't so much about Brenda Lee as an artist, but more about the elitist, but far from discriminating, induction practices. You know there's a problem when Wenner is made part of the jam sessions.

Someone here said it was nonsense when I claimed that the inductions were reflective of a "value judgment" of one artist's work versus another. But Mr. Pence's words demonstrate how far from nonsense my sentiments are. This year, fans of Jackson Browne, Gram Parsons, and Black Sabbath are asking what makes Brenda Lee or Tom Petty or Gene Vincent or Isaac Hayes worthy of induction where their more favored acts only warranted nomination. Particularly this year, because only six artists were inducted, whereas in each of the last two years, eight artists were inducted. Basically, the voters are sending a message to (millions of) Sabbath or Jackson Browne fans that these acts simply aren't as good as the others. That's a value judgment if I ever saw one.

Someone here also said that the HOF was not meant to honor the best of the best, but instead exists as a commercial venture to showcase the history of the music. If that's the case, where is KISS? The "Kiss Army" is huge and has always been more than willing to part with their money to take in all things Kiss. The HOF has recognized/exploited this by having Kiss exhibits, but yet the band can't even get a nomination. Certainly no one can deny Kiss's place in the history of rock and roll (and I'm willing to bet that as many kids caught the rock'n'roll fever as a result of a Kiss record as did because of the Monkees). So again, if it's not some sort of value judgment, where's Kiss?

And Gram Parsons is widely regarded as the father of country-rock. While his commercial appeal isn't that great, his historical significance is undeniable. So why is his place somewhere beneath Brenda Lee's? As I said before, some arbitrary line drawing is unavoidable, but the lines should be drawn higher. It's a lot easier to distinguish between the accomplishments/significance of say, Paul Simon, versus GP, but it becomes fuzzier at Brenda Lee. My point is that most rock fans, whether fans of Paul Simon or not, will be able to recognize and acknowledge the worthiness of Mr. Simon without a grudge. But it becomes insulting when the "country club" inducts what amounts to a clique of certain artists, while ignoring others. Never would my own personal HOF include Boston or Bad Company or Steve Miller or Bob Seger, but I can't justify leaving these still incredibly popular acts out of a Hall that includes Gene Pitney and Brenda Lee. That is not meant as insult to any of these acts, but just a comment that they exist in the same strata of rock and roll's hierarchy.

I guess my point is that it's not a tragedy to induct Brenda Lee, but it saddens me that she is deemed worthy when a lot of artists (that I feel) that are on her level will never even be considered.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 17:30:33 CET 2001 from acb4ae85.ipt.aol.com (172.180.174.133)

The VIDEO BEAT!

From: San Francisco
Web page

Nice website! Yeah! Keep it up!


Posted on Thu Dec 20 17:25:07 CET 2001 from spider-wb072.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.182)

Harry & Mim

From: Bucks County

Band fans: Favorite Christmas song: "Run, Run Rudolph", Chuck Berry. Check out the cover Keith Richards cut in the mid to late 1970's. Sounds like a herd of thundering elephants - very *christmassy* "christmas must be tonight" - ungghhh......... Get it together, people. It's now or never... H & M "santa to a boy child, what is it you're hopin' for? - all I want for christmas is a ROCK & ROLL ELECTRIC GUITAR - along come Rudolph, moving like a shootin' star"


Posted on Thu Dec 20 17:22:04 CET 2001 from (12.34.17.194)

Johnny Flippo

Let's make the list an even dozen. Remarkably, I forgot what is IMHO the best album of the year:

Vespertine...Bjork


Posted on Thu Dec 20 16:53:10 CET 2001 from (12.34.17.194)

Johnny Flippo

From: Sea to the North Pole

Matt K.: Can I come over and peruse your record collection some time? I promise not to spill anything.

My top eleven (most of these are 2001 releases, some may not be but I can't remember):

Sea to the North...That ballcap guy

The Convincer...Nick Lowe

Fan Dance...Sam Phillips

Life on a String...Laurie Anderson

I am Born to Preach the Gospel...Washington Phillips

No Such Place...Jim White

The Id...Macy Gray

Love & Theft...The Old Man

Transcendental Blues...Steve Earle

Roger Miller Boxed Set

Beautiful Garbage...Garbage

Honorable mention for guiltiest pleasure: I'm Coming Up...Pink

And last but not least, God Bless Brenda Lee. God Bless us Everyone.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 16:24:46 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia
Web page

A little bit of this & that -- There's a wonderful "unofficial" Neil Young website (hyperrust.org -- I've provided a link above), where the non-release of a CD version of "On The Beach" (from 1974) has been discussed at some length. In fact, that album is just one of what is known as "the Missing 6" albums of Mr. Young's that have never been released on CD. The other five are: "Journey Through The Past" ('72), "Time Fades Away" ('73), "American Stars & Bars" ('76), "Hawks & Doves" ('80) and "RE-ACT-OR" ('81).

As discussed at the Hyperrust site, Mr. Young's label, Reprise, is NOT the blame. The decision is that of Neil Young himself, and is attributed to his dislike of the sound quality of the CD format. He has experimented with the "HDCD" (high definition compact disc) technology, which, although compatible with any CD player, requires a more expensive machine with the HDCD chip for optimal audio reproduction. During the '90s, it has been reported that Mr. Young even went as far as having his "missing 6" albums remastered using the HDCD process, only to decide at the last minute not to release them. As reprinted at Hyperrust, Mr. Young, in an interview, had this to say about the "missing 6":

"...I really didn't see these albums on CD because CDs don't sound very good. I like the original analog masters and I didn't want people to have bad-sounding CDs to listen to for the rest of time. I want to wait until the things are ready to be dumped into a format that I can understand and is relative to the original format."

This also helps explain why the long-rumored, expansive box-set retrospective that Mr. Young has been working on for years has yet to see the light of day. He is currently enamored with the possibilities of the DVD audio standard, so perhaps the "missing 6" may be released in that format.

Speaking of Reprise -- that was also the label for which Gram Parsons recorded his two solo albums with Emmylou Harris. Although I listed his second "...Grievious Angel" in my top ten list, the first, "G P", is also great. I personally just happen to prefer the material included on the second album. Several years ago, Reprise did Gram's fans a great favor, by releasing both albums together on one, mid-priced CD, and it's still available. This year Reprise, through it's Rhino subsidiary, also released mini-box sets from both Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 16:11:54 CET 2001 from dv007s40.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.40.7)

Ray Pence

From: Casper Wyoming

Jumping into this Hall of Fame controversy with something that probably will rub lots of people the wrong way is risky, but I want to say that I don't find Tom Petty and co. any more deserving than Brenda Lee.

Especially in comparison to Jackson Browne and Gram Parsons, both of whom are, in my opinion, far more accomplished singers and writers than Petty. Neither Browne nor Parsons made it in, Petty did, and I chalk it up purely to commerce.

Petty will attract more visitors to the museum, but put what I think is Petty's only truly memorable album "Torpedoes" up against "Running on Empty," "The Pretender," or "Grievous Angel," and there's no mistaking where the substance and inspiration really is.

From what I can tell, the Hall of Fame is a bit of a country club, far too influenced by Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner and his tastes--private jam parties for inductees just aren't my thing, and I recall what Arlo Guthrie said when his dad was inducted--that Woody damn sure wouldn't be found at a fancy affair like the HOF awards ceremony.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 14:46:54 CET 2001 from hvc-24-164-173-109.hvc.rr.com (24.164.173.109)

Russell

From: Rosendale,NY

Molly - funny you should mention that about Steely Dan... About a year or two ago, you could see Donald Fagen around Woodstock with his wife Libby Titus.(Libby is Levon's ex) and Amy Helm just performed on Steely Dan's last cd. How's that for a Band connection?


Posted on Thu Dec 20 14:34:33 CET 2001 from ppp278.ac1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.2.216)

paul godfrey

Attention Rolling Stones Fans. Do you recall the AFTERMATH album. There was a song on the lp called "High & Dry". It takes after Leadbelly and lends well to the 12 string guitar. It would have been a great song for Levon to record. Yes? No?


Posted on Thu Dec 20 14:21:03 CET 2001 from host-149.subnet-76.med.umich.edu (141.214.76.149)

Steve Knowlton

From: Ypsilanti

For the longest time I was confused about why Brenda Lee was even nominated... then I realized I was thinking of Peggy Lee... :)

Charlie Hawker: Don Henley has now also joined the fight against the record companies, see yesterday's Salon.com.

Top Ten albums I don't think I've seen mentioned here:

"Titanic Days" by Kirsty MacColl -

"Big Smash" by Wreckless Eric -

"Maybe You Should Drive" by Barenaked Ladies -

"The Brooklyn Side" by the Bottle Rockets -

"Happy Hour" by Shonen Knife -

"Freedom Suite" by the Rascals -

"Singles 1969-1973" by the Carpenters -

"Marvin the Album" by Frente -

"I Love Rock and Roll" by Joan Jett -

"Hearts of Stone" by Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes


Posted on Thu Dec 20 14:08:07 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tj022.proxy.aol.com (64.12.106.27)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

Peter; the lack of Spielberesque shock value in the introduction to characters is a good point. Could Jackson have done a better job of that without drawing the ire of loyalists who would deride such a tactic - doubt it. The Boromir sequence probably could have been handled a little better but the whole Council of Elrond was changed and vastly shortened. It was these tweaks that made me at first uncomfortable BUT I was able to soon put aside my literalist take of the book and just let the director tell it his way. As for Saruman; well, for the reader we already know what happens in Book Two, as for the tenderfoot, the Battle scenes to come I'm sure will be done with such eye-popping sfx, that that in itself will be the surprise. Look for the Ents revenge on Isengard! that will be different and a surprise. As for people being confused, outside of not paying attention to the first couple minutes, i think the point of the film is pretty straight forward. My brother commented that where he saw it, some younger people were giggling at the Bilbo/Frodo in Rivendell scene as well as towards the end. He also said he heard a teenage girl say.., That's how it ends! Guess she doesn't know Part two comes out next year.

PS - Didn't know about the Irish thing.., anyway after reading so much about the making of the film, most of the cast had not read the books but were aware of them. Jackson himself was a fan but i'm sure the details of Toliens life were lost on him. That said, I'm sure the composer was unaware of it also..,


Posted on Thu Dec 20 14:02:41 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

All I know is what I observed from watching The Last Waltz..I saw the film when it was first released and had watched it many more times afterward. When Levon Helm's book was published it took me about three days to buy a copy. As I read thru it and finally got to the "New Waltz" chapter I almost fell completely out of my chair, I walked around in a daze for a while and then sat and carefully watched the film again, following right along with Levon's recollections. The film changed for me right before my eyes, I was stunned. I watched faces and reactions very carefully. I think that the situation was so bad that night that Levon did not have room to even make it uglier than it actually was, that chapter of his book I believed totally. This is an ugly subject and I'm sorry that I commented on it in the first, I don't know how things work around here so I'll just try and keep my trap shut about it.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 12:37:41 CET 2001 from spider-wb051.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.171)

h evans

From: alabama

Calvin, had to respond to your Gram Parsons question. I love both GP and Grievious Angel. I think that A Song for You was one of Gram's best efforts, but I think that Grievious Angel was a more consistent album. Personally, I think Gram's best work, or at least my favorite was his stuff with the Burrito Bros. Does anyone know anything about the rumor that Gram was asked to join Poco when it was being formed by Furay and Messina? I know that Gram and Richie knew each other from New York. Wouldn't that have been interesting? Poco with Gram Parsons?


Posted on Thu Dec 20 12:24:26 CET 2001 from grmn-189ppp218.dialup.valstar.net (216.37.189.218)

Diamond Lil

Christmas Must be Tonight. I like it Crabby, which means by your standards that my tastes must be impaired. But then, I like you too. Hmm... Go figure, hm? :-)
Every Christmas season, I look forward to hearing Rick's voice sing that beautiful song. I only listen to it during the holidays (just as I only listen to Alice's Restaurant at Thanksgiving). It's become kind of 'traditional'. One of the warmest and most memorable times for me was listening to that song in December of 1999, and sharing tears and hugs with some very good friends. It'll always be special to me.

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 12:14:42 CET 2001 from spider-wb074.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.184)

James

aside to Susan:

suggest you check out the Little Drummer Boy video—a duet by David Bowie and Bing Crosby

J


Posted on Thu Dec 20 12:07:23 CET 2001 from du-tele3-127.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.127)

Peter Viney

‘Lord of The Rings’ would generate pages over the holiday season, but I don’t see any Band connection (unfortunately) as I could talk about it for hours. A few quick points. On plot , the prologue sets out the stall almost completely, leaving no Speilbeg-style shock as orcs, black riders etc later appear in the story. When Boromir appears, no one mentions his name which we only hear much later, and he should have had a different style of beard to Aragorn – the kids behind me couldn’t work out who he was. If you go with people who haven’t read it, checklist the major characters first. As I predicted months ago, the film ends just into Book two, but the asides to Saruman’s doings throughout have given away a lot of potential surprises / big scenes in Book two. A Tolkien biographer commented that the old boy would have been entranced, but that no one had taken account of the fact that Tolkien had a semi-obsessive loathing for Irish music, so the sound track would have ruined it for him.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 10:03:54 CET 2001 from spider-wo062.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.47)

Nick

From: Virginia

I'll tell ya what everyone was thinking....They were thinking you were an an idiot!! Just Kiddin' man, Rock on!!


Posted on Thu Dec 20 09:37:03 CET 2001 from sdn-ap-004castocp0943.dialsprint.net (63.187.35.181)

Charlie Hawker

From: San Francisco

You know... I was listening to Neil Young’s "On The Beach" again tonight. It is such a great album and Rick and Levon jamming with Neil and David Crosby on the song called "Revolution Blues" is just unbelieveable (I wish he would have done a whole record with them).

But this album brings about an interesting subject. This is just one of many records that was never released on CD and basically died out after record companies began releasing eveything on CD's (rather than records). I don't know why. It is a great album. I don't know if it is because Neil didn't want it released or because the record company just doesn't give a sh$% about the fans who have been waiting for a very long time to be able to purchase this recording (my bet is the latter).

There are so many great albums that are sitting in vaults that will likely not see the light of day again because the record company doesn't want to release them and for some reason they also won't hand over the rights. This means that not only can the fans not get a copy of it but more importantly the artist can't do anything with it and is not getting paid for it.

This is what always bugs me about the whole "bootleg" thing. The record companies will throw endless amounts of money into lawsuits to stop bootlegging and to shut down file sharing services like Napster claiming it is because they want "their artists to get paid" and yet at the same time they won't put together small production rereleased runs (or even release the rights to another company) of albums by artists who could probably use the money... instead they just hold on to the rights of production for their albums and do nothing with them.

This is why I have mixed feelings about Bootlegs. On one hand I don't like them because I want artists to get paid. On the other hand when you can't even get certain albums anymore are you just supposed to search local used record stores forever (which I do!!) until you find an old copy of an album? Or do you find a bootleg copy or download it from somewhere? I am of the opinion that you just get it anywhere you can because the only thing worse than artists not getting paid is the fact that all of this great music is being silenced.

Instead of joining in the fight to devour Napster it's too bad Don Henley or Metallica didn't sue the record companies on behalf of all the artists who have been ripped off by them since musical recordings began. I often thought that some of the artists who had been ripped off by the major label record companies must have taken a little bit of pleasure in the fact that the record companies were so scared and threatened by peer to peer sharing like Napster. Must have been nice for the shoe to be on the other foot for a little while.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 08:03:58 CET 2001 from (194.100.60.131)

Kalervo

From: Suomi

Crabgrass: Let the Christmas creep into your heart. If you don't like Christmas Must Be Tonight it is your problem, don' t put the people down who happen to love it. I love Rocking Around the Christmas Tree, but I love Christmas Must Be Tonight,too...Rocking, tell me why everything must be rocking? Some people (mostly men) always try to sharpen their 'public image' (=oh how CLEVER I am) by putting down somebody or something. To me it is only a sign of one-eyedness and male-defensiveness...Crabgrass you are clever, but to my eyes you are shadowing sometimes your cleverness with your negativity....Have a Right-Brain Christmas! Kalervo


Posted on Thu Dec 20 07:07:23 CET 2001 from spider-tm044.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.64)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Do people REALLY think that EC's guitar slipping off the strap was intentional? This has come up before. Maybe it's a running joke that I missed. If you look at the close-up shot of him playing at the start of the song, the strap is twisted the wrong way - it was bound to let go. When it does go, you can hear Eric say "Oh!". It's a great thing that he caught his beloved "Blackie" Strat before it hit the floor. Rick and Levon never skip a beat, and the look on Rick's face was great too.

Rollie can confirm all of this - I think he was there.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 05:30:23 CET 2001 from ip-160.dial.webperception.com (64.7.64.160)

molly z.

From: SF, Ca

Yes I know, I've been a stranger and haven't been at this website since 9/11 actually. Anyway, lately I've been exploring the music of Steely Dan, which is now in my top 10 favorite bands along with The Band. Donald Fagen has mentioned that The Band has influenced him in many ways, which is great. Thought that was cool. Anyways, hi to everyone and peace out!


Posted on Thu Dec 20 05:18:47 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ti061.proxy.aol.com (64.12.101.176)

Calvin

Little question. I noticed around a dozen people listed Grevious Angel by Gram Parson, but I was the only one who listed GP. Im not challenging anyone's taste, just wondering what everyone else was thinking.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 05:15:06 CET 2001 from spider-tp034.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.189)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Sorry Bones, I meant Bumbles...


Posted on Thu Dec 20 05:11:37 CET 2001 from spider-tp034.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.189)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Brien: I saw the movie too... A+ great... but I want to see them all now!!!! Adhered to book well I thought... Could have had better casting and soundtrack though... I didn't like the ring wraith sounds... too wimpy... and the Bilbo casting was well done but I don't care for this Wood character yet (i.e. Frodo)... He seems to lack humor... and ho hum on special effects... I'm tired of supermodel looking guys and scenes obviously worked up on the PC... I want more acting than fake fighting... I'm hooked though... hopefully they will do books 2-3 then loop back for the Hobbit... and not take years to get the next one out... the dream scenes where Frodo wears the ring were especially cool... remind me of the Crazy Horse TNT movie when he dreams... and the Band connection - well this movie deals with the idea of teamwork and the importance of a diversity of roles very well... quite Band-like if you ask me...

And I'm still laughing at the term fuzak... I'm definitely not a fuzakite... or maybe because I dig Garth's Track 1 Saga that makes me a closet or naiive fuzakite... but, Bones I'm sleeping too when the speed jazz plays...


Posted on Thu Dec 20 04:54:19 CET 2001 from spider-ta012.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.47)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Lotta smart folks here just don't get advertising. The Gap ad isn't for you to run out and buy there product. It's about Product recognition. If they wanted you to run to the store they would shout at you 50% OFF ALL WEEKEND LONG-YOUR FAVORITE DESIGNERS, Blah blah blah. Does the ad suck? Who cares - just think - when was the last time any of you spent this much time thinking, talking or writing about the GAP. The product is ingrained. I'd say the campaign has been a great success, in at least this mini-microcosm - If this was a focus group - they'd give it the thumbs up and make the project a GO!

Think how this campaign has affected every other fan base out there of the other artists both young and old and not to forget the curious.

Right now in the parallel universe of Super Tramp fans, a similar debate is raging about the use of one of their classic songs....., By God! The agency who came up with this concept is Brilliant!


Posted on Thu Dec 20 04:06:57 CET 2001 from dialup-209.244.67.63.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (209.244.67.63)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Bumbles, calling Weather Report "fuzak" is, well, ridiculous. And there's an awful lot of bootlegs on that last list of yours. And thank goodness for classical music--just ask Garth.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 03:58:19 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

Well once again Cosimo Matassa the man who engineered and produced just about every single damn record, EVER, to come out of New Orleans. The man who PRODUCED The New Orleans sound at his 3 recording studios. The man who brought us Fats Domino, Shirley and Lee, Little Richard, Aaron Neville etc. is ONCE AGAIN OVERLOOKED AS A NON-PERFORMER at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees. I have nothing to gain from bringing this up year after year; but hey.....Phil Spector..........Berry Gordy.........Chet Atkins (Producing) and Cosimo are all responsible for the music scene of their respective cities. I am miffed at this oversight once again and Robertson certainly knows who he is. I appreciate Tom Petty and the Talking Heads; but I still think they have overlooked a lot who came before these guys. There's lots of time for the latter. Personal opinion there. And no I don't think the hall should be just for old folks; but some people DESERVE IT!

Come On! I want to see Little Richard and Pat Boone together.......uh time for bed......


Posted on Thu Dec 20 03:51:58 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

OK....i can't help it...here's my list.Not in order. Miles Davis's "Scetches Of Spain" Muddy's"Woodstock" album, Gram Parsons "Grievous Angel", Tom Waits "The Heart Of Saturday Night" and "Black Rider", Roy Buchannon's first album, Randy Newman's "Good Old Boys", Van Morrison's "Veedon Fleece", The Band's "Brown Album", Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here", Robert Johnson's "Complete Recordings" Eagles "Desperado"(sorry)...and on and on. Did somebody here just mention that they would rather hear Brenda Lee sing "Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree" than "Christmas Must Be Tonite"...geez...anyway..I heard that The Chipmonks are being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year..did anyone else hear that? And about that "jam" ession at the end of The Last Waltz...I have always felt that that whole thing, including the deal with Clapton's guitar coming loose was scripted and that Clapton didn't really know what was expected of him until he walked on the stage. Rufus Thomas died...we miss you already.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 03:46:52 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

3 CHEERS FOR BRENDA LEE......LI'L MISS DYNAMITE


Posted on Thu Dec 20 03:26:25 CET 2001 from ptldme-cmt3-s-24-31-154-115.maine.rr.com (24.31.154.115)

MattK

Top 10, Day 3

1) Gone to Earth - David Sylvian/Robert Fripp
2) Remain in Light - Talking Heads
3) My Life in the Bush of Ghosts - David Byrne/Brian Eno
4) Wrong Way Up - Brian Eno/John Cale
5) Visions Of Excess - Golden Palominos
6) Music for Native Americans - Robbie Robertson
7) Invisible Touch - French/Frith/Kaiser/Thompson
8) The Light - Afrika Bambaata
9) JS Bach: Goldberg Variations - Glenn Gould
10) Only a Lad - Oingo Boingo


Posted on Thu Dec 20 03:17:05 CET 2001 from 3cust61.tnt38.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.193.87.61)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Yeah, and I'd rather listen to Brenda's "Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree" anytime than the dreary, insipid, hackneyed, lackluster, and very unrocking "Christmas Must Be Tonight." (It truly hurts me to say this with Christmas being so close at hand. Can any of the GB's true music aficianados actually defend this lame song?) Also, I predict that Connie Francis and Annette Funicello will be inducted into the R&RHOF in 2003!!

BTW did anyone catch Neil Diamond's rocked up version of "Winter Wonderland" on Leno the other night?


Posted on Thu Dec 20 03:06:44 CET 2001 from spider-wa023.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.28)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

and if this top album thing is going to continue, then I'm in for some more =

Centerfield - JOHN FOGERTY

Airwaves - BADFINGER

Living in the Material World - GEORGE HARRISON

Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer - (Soundtrack)

Truth - JEFF BECK

Class Clown - GEORGE CARLIN

Back in Black - AC/DC

Music of The Southern Appalacians - VARIOUS ARTISTS

Some Girls - THE ROLLING STONES

King of the Delta Blues Singers - ROBERT JOHNSON

Wings Over America - PAUL McCARTNEY & WINGS

Justus - THE MONKEES

\Another Ticket - ERIC CLAPTON

Empty Glass - PETE TOWNSHEND

The Story of Bonnie and Clyde - FLATT & SCRUGGS


Posted on Thu Dec 20 02:49:44 CET 2001 from spider-wa023.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.28)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

sure, Brenda Lee is in, but what about young Anna Lee?

The reason a person would acknowledge Beatle albums like "Something new", Beatles "65, Beatles VI, etc. - is that some of us grew up knowing only those albums because that's what was at the local Sam Goody music store at the mall.Yes, we discovered what the "suits" at Capitol did later on, but when you listened to the "bastardized" American ones for so long, they retain themselves in your memory. I STILL have a hard time getting used to Nowhere Man being on Rubber Soul, and not on Yesterday and Today

I've been reading through an interesting book listing ALL of Eric Clapton's recording sessions. BTW, he has done guest appearances on an ENORMOUS amount of recordings. Anyway, The Last Waltz is in there of course, and it says that at the end the obligatory jam happened, and Eric had to be carried out there by Bill Graham. I thought that was interesting. Did Eric NOT want to jump in?


Posted on Thu Dec 20 02:18:11 CET 2001 from dialup-268.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.12)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

1 Any Decent Chuck Berry Rock'n'Roll Compliation

2 Any Decent Elvis Presley Rock'n'Roll Compliation

3 Any Decent Little Richard Rock'n'Roll Compliation

4 Any Decent Buddy Holly Rock'n'Roll Compliation

5 The Basement Tapes

6 The White Album

7 Exile on Main Street

8 Electric Ladyland

9 Live at The Fillmore/Eat a Peach

10 Babylon By Bus

Wow!....that was NOT easy.........I mean, where's Hank Williams and Robert Johnson and Eddie Cochran and Pink Floyd and The Dead and the Sex Pistols and The Clash and U2 and The VU and....YOU name 'em!!!............I really feel bad about not including The Dead as I'm such a huge fan of them.....but, in the end, they themselves have admitted that they were better live and not so good in the studio..........

I HEARD The Gap ad for the first time time tonight......SAW it a coupla weeks ago.....Sad, really. I can't see how it would make ANYONE go out and buy their stuff.....Whereas The Dandy Warhols Vodaphone ad kinda rocks me to think......"hmmmmmm.maybe a Vodaphone phone for me, eh?"

But I'll get over it, I'm sure............


Posted on Thu Dec 20 00:52:14 CET 2001 from ppp293.ac1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.2.231)

paul godfrey

From: London Canada

Flash Flash Flash.............

RONNIE HAWKINS appears New Years Eve at London Canada's Victoria Park. Come Shine On into 2002 with the original Band Man!


Posted on Thu Dec 20 00:42:17 CET 2001 from spider-wc054.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.44)

Bumbles

From: The Garden State

That's a drag. I'm home sick from work again, but no one's doing revised Top 10's. And me with no place to put Lee Dorsey's "Night People," Dillard & Clark's 1st, the NY Dolls' 2nd, Boz Scaggs' "Moments," and… Oh well, I never did do box sets.
BTW: I defer to the estimable Messrs. Viney & Brennan on the undoubted virtues of classical music & fuzak. They can also "shake me, wake me, when it's over."
BOX SETS
(1) The Specialty Sessions, Little Richard (Specialty, 3 discs). Towering above even Elvis, there is no rock as we know it without these sides. And the usually annoying "studio conversation" is invaluable here; hearing Richard conduct a session is too good to be true.
(2) The Genuine Bootleg Series; The GBS: Take 2; The GBS: Take 3, Bob Dylan (Scorpio, 3 3-disc sets available separately). A good starting point in documenting the parallel career of an indomitable enigma.
(3) The Doo Wop Box (Rhino, 4 discs). Superbly chosen set of over 100 vocal-group classics. Too urban, too ethnic, too romantic too make much impression today, these are dream voices from rock's all-but-forgotten beginnings.
(4) Chess Rhythm & Roll (MCA, 4 discs). Rock'n'roll and R&B from the Chess brothers, almost all of it licensed from smaller regional labels. Tommy Tucker! Dale Hawkins! Bobby Charles! Cookie & his Cupcakes! Dozens more!
(5) Star Time, James Brown (Polydor, 4 discs). JB has undergone an excellent reissue program, with double-disc anthologies, newly released live shows spotlighting his ever-changing, always-excellent bands, and expanded versions of his late 60s and 70s lp's. This is the place to start.
(6) Crescent City Soul: The Sound of New Orleans, 1947-1974 (EMI, 4 discs). The greatest hits of Dave Bartholomew and Allen Toussaint.
(7) The Complete Stax/Volt Singles: 1959-1968 (Atlantic, 9 discs). The first of three massive boxes documenting Stax & its affiliates, this is the way the Memphis Sound took shape: one record at a time; a hit here, a miss there, and so many classics it's hard to remember them all. R.I.P. Rufus Thomas.
(8) The Genuine Philosophers Stone, Van Morrison (Scorpio, 3 CDs). More complete and more compelling than anything this cranky obsessive is likely to authorize.
(9) Close Harmony, The Louvin Brothers (Bear Family, 8 discs). The complete career of this breathtaking brother duet, from their first recordings, through the hits later revived by Gram Parsons, Emmylou Harris & Ricky Skaggs, tributes to Roy Acuff & the Delmore Bros., a Christmas album and Nashville covers, and winds up with "Don't Let Them Take the Bible Out Our School Rooms," which could have been played at a George Wallace rally.
(10) The Anthology: 1961-1977, Curtis Mayfield & the Impressions (MCA, 2 discs). Skimpy set is still the best collection of Mayfield with the Impressions. All their original lp's are in print on British labels and are well worth the cost, but this has hits, and it has some of the sweet, sad stuff like "I Loved and I Lost" and "Fool for You."
BEST BOX SETS THAT AREN'T BOX SETS
-- The Duke Recordings: Volumes 1-3, Bobby Bland (MCA, 3 2-disc sets available separately). Spotlighting the man!
-- Swamp Gold: Volumes 1-6 (Jin, released individually). A ridiculous number of great swamp pop singles, regional rock'n'roll Southwest Louisiana style: extra greasy & with a French accent.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 00:36:00 CET 2001 from spider-wg034.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.34)

Calvin

Gotta agree with Amanada here, there isnt anything wrong with Brenda Lee being in the HOF. As for the description of the HOF being made for the "best of the best," well, nonsense. The HOF was designed to be be, planned to be, and very openly stated as a commercial venture designed to showcase the history of R&R, I dont think anyone seriously considers it to have actualy weight as a judge of a musical acts output.


Posted on Thu Dec 20 00:02:35 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Rock and Roll is a male dominated field....especially in those early days. Brenda Lee broke into rock and roll way before the empowering force of the feminist movement. Lee's voice alone was revolutionary....throaty, husky, sexy.

My baby whispers in my ear

Ummm Sweet Nothins'

He knows the things I like to hear

Ummm Sweet Nothins'

Lee's voice with those lyrics....that is extremely groundbreaking and more influential than you might realize. For example: A few guys posted today about getting their first Monkees record and how it led them to the Beatles, etc. Don't forget about all the young girls that begged Mama to buy that Brenda Lee single in 1959. Imagine all the musical doors that Lee's records opened for them.

I am no Rock and Roll Hall of Fame disciple, but the induction of Brenda Lee....that was an honorable choice...not only for Lee, but for all women in rock and roll.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 22:57:45 CET 2001 from webcacheh02a.cache.pol.co.uk (195.92.67.66)

jay

From: boston

ok then, i have read all off your top ten. varey good too!! but i have noticed a few that should most definitely be included that are missing, album title unimportant. pink floyd, led zeplin, bob marley, paul weller, the jam, dire straits. can anyone change there top ten to include any off the above, lets be fair about this as they do deserve at least a mention if only to make me happy.........i trust you have all been well and truly told off and will have a good rethink about your choices and the error off your ways,,,ta ta all....................... jay


Posted on Wed Dec 19 22:44:32 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tj061.proxy.aol.com (64.12.106.46)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Just back from Lord of the Rings....., It is wonderful! It is well paced, well acted and the scenery and SFX are amazing. Purists may scoff at how some situations are handled and altered but nonetheless a wonderful film. Christopher Tolkien will not like it, I'm sure. It is faithful to a point. The point being, the settings are all there, it's the way some unfold that differs but certainly not for the worst. In fact! This movie will probably play better to those who haven't read the book or it has been a long time and their memory of it has faded a little.., See it! Feel the Power of the Ring draw you in.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 22:38:05 CET 2001 from (208.11.92.3)

Bud

From: Cleveland, OH

Great to see Don Webster (the aforementioned "Dean of Cleveland weather" and host of "Upbeat") almost name-checked here. In fact, one of those "Upbeat" specials was held at the Hall of Fame within the last week.

On the subject of the R'n'R Hall of Fame, for the first time since I've been reading this Guestbook, I have to disagree with Mr. Powell (his excellent post regarding the qualifications of Brenda Lee notwithstanding, Brenda Lee should not have been inducted). In sports, induction into a Hall of Fame signifies that an athlete is among the all-time best of the best. So too, should induction into the Rock Hall. But Brenda Lee is the baseball equivalent of an above-average player who had a few shining moments. However, those moments do not qualify her to stand shoulder to shoulder with Elvis, Chuck Berry, Aretha, Little Richard, The Beatles, The Stones, James Brown, Dylan or even second tier inductees (and this is not meant as a slight, because these acts are certainly induction worthy, but let's be honest here, as great as these acts are, they don't reach the level of the aforementioned artists in the great triad of induction criteria: popularity, influence and artistic merit) like The Kinks or The Band or The Who or Zeppelin.

Unfortunately, the Rock Hall has not adopted the very high standards of the athletic halls, and its failure to do so has created a real slippery slope regarding who's induction worthy and who's not. By virtue of inducting Del Shannon, Ritchie Valens, The Mamas & The Papas, The Rascals, Lovin' Spoonful, McCartney as a solo artist, Bonnie Raitt and a whole host of others, the Rock Hall has introduced a tier of popular, but not-particularly-ground-breaking-or-influential-when-compared-to-their-comtemporaries artists as being worthy of induction. The problem is that this class of artists is HUGE (Boston, Grand Funk Railroad, Journey, REO Speedwagon, Hall & Oates, Bad Company, Ohio Players, Kool & The Gang, you all get the idea). Personally, I like all of these acts, but I don't want to see any of them inducted in to the Hall of Fame. They're good, but not that good. The bigger problem that the Rock Hall has created is that this new tier of acts is not representative of all of the sub-genres of rock and roll, and therefore reflects a value judgment by the voters that their sentimental favorites are "better" than the likes of Steve Miller and Bob Seger. So somehow, the Rock Hall has managed to be elitist without being particularly selective.

We've now reached the point where nomination without induction has become a snub. And maybe that's the problem we have with Brenda Lee. Would we even be debating her merit if the Rock Hall limited its inductees to the pioneers, the giants, and the truly ground-breaking? Granted, this still leaves a lot of room to argue, but it makes the fringe much smaller.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 22:31:20 CET 2001 from dv119s69.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.69.119)

Dexy

Web page

Interesting article at link above, from Al Aronowitz' webpage (via Beatle News Briefs). It's about his meeting with George Harrison prior to the 1992 Bobfest. Mentioned by GH: Levon, Rick, Robbie (plus of course Bob, George and others).


Posted on Wed Dec 19 21:50:15 CET 2001 from citrix5.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.9)

John Cass

From: VT

Did Canned Heat do a Christmas Album???

Another problem with the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame... Joe Cocker skipped over again.. Someone tell me why is he always skipped over????? Someone mentioned Brenda Lee how she overcame problems.. Nobody has overcame more and lived to still perform and put out albums. He dersreves to be in the Hall


Posted on Wed Dec 19 21:27:33 CET 2001 from 0-1pool220-162.nas33.somerville1.ma.us.da.qwest.net (63.159.220.162)

Jake

From: RI

Nice to see Robbie openly sell out with the new Gap ads. What I hope the ad reveals most though, is that the man can't sing a lick. He may have written the songs, but only Rick, Levon, and Richard could deliver the message. Sorry Robbie.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 20:10:02 CET 2001 from stx32.library.uiuc.edu (130.126.32.133)

Susan

From: a cold and windy, but dry, place

Mostly my Christmas music collection contains more or less Classic Christmas Carols or modern songs from people like Loreena McKennit or The Chieftans. I was recently given a couple of cds outside this pattern - a Ray Charles Christmas album from 1985, I think, and one with Louis Armstrong and Louis Jordan. I have not yet listened to the Louis album, but last night I wrapped presents to the Ray Charles album. This started me thinking about that fantasy Band Christmas album that has been discussed here

A number of the songs on the Ray Charles album are forgettable but he did two Christmas standards that would be perfect for The Band.

"What Child Is This?" This would never have occurred to me without prompting, but this would be great for Richard. It fits his style, and Ray's very well, and could do with a little bit of the Band horn section in the background, honking and sliding like a street-corner Salvation Army group.

"The Little Drummer Boy" This would be Levon's song. It's usually so precious, so mushy and 'reverent' in tone, but the Band could make it swing. Levon's voice would give it that rought everyman quality, and he'd have a great time with the 'ba rum pum pum pums'. He could also devise drum patterns to break up that rather boring four-square rhythm.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 19:51:27 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

OK...so maybe I was a hasty about Brenda. Anyway..I've been listenin' to Blind Lemon Jefferson and J.J.Cale all day and I would like to add them to my list.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 19:40:53 CET 2001 from hvc-24-164-174-169.hvc.rr.com (24.164.174.169)

Dennis

From: Just down the road from Big Pink in West Saugerties, NY
Web page

This may have been mentioned earlier, but kind of a very sad obituary in today's NY Times: self-billed as the world's oldest teenager, Rufus Thomas, passed away after a short illness last Saturday in Memphis.

Quoting the obituary, "As a singer, songwriter, talent scout, disc jockey and father of musical children, Mr. Thomas was a force in Memphis rhythm and blues as early as 1949, when he became a disc jockey on WDIA. Two important Memphis labels, Sun and Stax, were jump started with profits from Mr. Thomas's singles."

Further quoting, "After graduating from high school, Mr. Thomas toured the South as a dancer, singer and comedian with the Rabbit Foot Minstrels until he married in 1940 and setttled in Memphis."

Mr. Thomas later became one of the disc jockeys on WDIA, 1070 AM, a station that went on the air in Memphis back in 1949, breaking all the ugly color barriers of Southern radio broadcasting.

IMHO, one of the best R&R books I've ever read is, "Wheelin' on Beale," written by Louis Cantor and forwarded by B.B. King. Hopefully, the link above points towards WDIA's history and a copy of the book's cover.

As BWNWIT, and I'm sure many others will agree, Memphis is a wonderful city: ya never know who you might run in to, and springtime in Memphis is the best. The W.C. Handy Award ceremony and Beale Street Music Festival both take place around the first weekend in May, and Mr. Thomas, crowds following him as he strolled Beale Street in his Bermuda shorts and knee-high socks, was always quite a sight to see!

Thank-you, Mr. Thomas, for the guts, the smiles, the music, and, of course....well it's time to put on one of my personal ten fav's, Otis Redding and Carla Thomas. RIP.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 19:29:19 CET 2001 from du-tele3-089.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.89)

Peter Viney

Sweet Nothin's: Quite right, David. Brenda Lee's 'Tragedy' from the wonderful "All The way" album is nearly enough on its own to buy her a ticket to the RRHOF.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 19:16:43 CET 2001 from plantlogic.com (209.195.208.11)

bassmanlee

Web page

As I about split a gut laughing while reading Nick Hornby's excellent book "High Fidelity", I will refrain from even attempting to make a top ten list of any kind, let alone of all times. Music is part of daily life, like food. Some days you feel like one thing and another day you crave something else. I do notice RR's Storyville appears often in the lists, though.

So without ranking (or rancour) a few noteworthy INMO releases from the past year: Besides Garth and Mr. Zimmerman, the John Hammond "Wicked Grin", and Elvis and Anne Sohpie von Otter's "For The Stars" get a nod. (I see by his web site, above, that Elvis will be joining Nanci Griffith, Steve Earle, John Prine, and Emmylou on the Landmine Free World Tour in January.)

On the wish list, I notice that Argent's "Ring of Hands" is finally out on CD, as is "All Together Now" (with many bonus tracks). I realize I don't own the first New Riders album, or Greg Allman's "Laid Back", both classic in my book.

In the gift-giving department, I drew my sister-in-law in the gift-swap lottery. She is getting the Costello/von Otter disk and "The McGarrigle Hour", along with my pre-reissue copy of "Rock of Ages" and Steve Nieve's "Keyboard Jungle" (along with a bunch of non-musical items).

OK, I give in: Top Ten Christmas Albums!

1. Amahl and the Night Visitors, the 1951 Original Cast version.
2. Joan Baez - Noel (haven't heard the reissue & bonus tracks)
3. Vince Guaraldi - Charlie Brown Christmas
4. Sounds of the Season - MCA Masters Series and features Jerry Douglas, Edgar Meyer, Acoustic Alchemy, etc.
5. Bruce Cockburn - Christmas
6. What If Mozart Wrote Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas - Hampton String Quartet
7. The Singers Unlimited - Christmas
8. Emmylou Harris - Light of the Stable
9. Nat King Cole - Christmas Song
10. Bing Crosby - White Christmas


Posted on Wed Dec 19 18:07:18 CET 2001 from m124-133.on.tac.net (209.202.124.133)

Bill

Another Monkees-Band link is via Neil Young, who was used as a session guy at a Monkee recording session. Rick and Levon play on "On The Beach", which I think is the best Neil Young album - and which at least one person's top 10. (The other Neil seems to have made nobody's top 10.)


Posted on Wed Dec 19 17:44:11 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

One easy link between the Monkees and our guys is, of course, Neil Diamond. I also have to confess that I almost listed a "guilty pleasures" add-on to my best boxed sets list with the recently released Rhino Monkees' 4 disc comilation, THE MONKEES MUSIC BOX. It is incredibly well-done, like most of Rhino's work.

Donna: I should re-do my top ten album list to include Van's TUPELO HONEY. You are so right. I remember taping that record from a friend's copy in high school, then buying the vinyl album in college and finally the CD a few years ago. It's as good today as it was in 1970, just like those first two albums by The Band...


Posted on Wed Dec 19 17:13:08 CET 2001 from spider-wk013.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.153)

Calvin

Adding to the pile my first Rock n Roll album was More of the Monkees, who knew their was a Band-Monkees connection? Oh, and somebody mentioned Cleveland's UpBeat the other day, the host of that show is still on CLeveland TV, basically the dean of the city's weathermen, he also does Upbeat special's now and again and is rumored to have a whole vast collection of the shows.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 17:07:16 CET 2001 from (216.125.170.206)

Mugs

From: Joliet, IL

At this moment and in no order except reserving #1 for Music from Big Pink, The Band, and Rock of Ages... Gram Parsons, Grievous Angel; Sam and Dave, Greatest Hits; Allman Brothers, Live at the Fillmore; Bruce Springsteen, The River; John Prine, first album; John Fahey, Yellow Princess; Jackson Browne, Late for the Sky; Van Morrison, Moondance; Jefferson Airplane, Surrealistic Pillow.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 16:52:15 CET 2001 from 01-032.046.popsite.net (64.24.231.32)

JennyT

From: Ohio

J Tull Fan: I was a huge Monkee fan when I was 5 too! I actually brought an album to kindergarten show and tell c. 1968, and my whole class danced. I think it was More of the Monkees. My teacher only played one song and then took it off and I said we should really listen to the whole album but she said one song was enough.

Also my sister and I talked my Gramma into taking us to see the movie Head when it came out, which of course made no sense to us. Afterward she said it was "interesting" which was what she would say whenever she really hated anything.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 16:39:08 CET 2001 from cod.mma.org (207.31.222.201)

Jason Imbesi

From: Boston
Web page

I don't usually take part in "Top 10" lists -- but I figured I'd do the best I can. I'm sure this will change in a week or so... but for now these are what make my Top 10/recommendations for listening (in no particular order -- I tried to keep it to one entry by one artist):

Badfinger - Wish You Were Here

The Band - The Band (Remastered)

Beatles - Abbey Road

Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue

Bob Dylan/The Band - The Basement Tapes

Fleetwood Mac - Tusk

Free - Highway

Genesis - Selling England By The Pound

Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street

Neil Young - On The Beach


Posted on Wed Dec 19 16:38:41 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

David Powell: Thanks so much for writing about Brenda Lee and for the John Lennon quote. "Little Miss Dynamite" is a perfect and beyond deserving choice for The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 16:29:34 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tf023.proxy.aol.com (64.12.103.28)

Brien Sz

From: nj

I remember that K-Tel record from the Monkees. I got that too. That was my first rock album. I was a little older, 6th grade i believe. I listened to that and my parents had all these 45's. I remember listening to American Pie and Cracklin' Rose the most.., how bout that. Now it's almost time to go see the opening matinee of Lord of the Rings.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 16:14:58 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

"She has the greatest rock and roll voice of them all."
--the late John Lennon speaking of Brenda Lee

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation has announced its new inductees. Applying its criteria in choosing those who have made influential & significant contributions to the development & perpetuation of rock 'n roll, the 2002 list includes a broad cross-section of performers & non-performers. From the world of soul, you have Issac Hayes and Stax Records co-founder Jim Stewart. You have straight-ahead rockers Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers. You have cutting-edge performers, the Ramones and the Talking Heads. From the world of pop, you have Brenda Lee and Gene Pitney. And in the "side-men" category, a posthumous induction for Chet Atkins.

Sadly, there are many who may feel that Brenda Lee doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I beg to differ, and not just because Ms. Lee is a dear, sweet lady from Georgia who has overcome many hardships in life. She began performing as a child and in her 45 year career has become popular all over the world. As pioneering female performer in the music business, she's had 27 gold records and charted in more categories than any other female in the history of recorded music. With 100 million in sales, including such classics as "I'm Sorry" and "Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree", she's sold more records than any other woman in the history of recorded music. Although diminutive in frame, she's always had that great big, passionate voice. When it comes to singing rock and roll, I believe John Lennon knew what he was talking about.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 15:39:09 CET 2001 from du-tele3-085.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.85)

Peter Viney

The Isis Anthology I mentioned yesterday shows a 1966 tour poster from (I think) Copenhagen. I was surprised to see the billing as ‘Bob Dylan – Levon & The Hawks’. Think this was mentioned before. Of course Levon wasn’t with them, and I thought it was just 'Bob Dylan' elsewhere or 'Bob Dylan and band'.

One way of helping yourself choose is to work out which albums you’ve played most since you bought them. This adds a few I’ve missed … um, like ‘Rumors’. Also ‘Largo’. If I’d put in Various Artists, then Motown and Atlantic compilations soar into the Top Ten, but then it’s hard to choose due to their practice of always leaving off an essential track or two, even on Greatest Hits collections. I’d need a Temptations and a Four Tops anthology, but the ones I’ve made up for the car are better than any of the released ones. Ditto Atlantic hits, for one artist Bumbles’ Drifters set is a good one. And I’d like a Best of The Impressions. I noticed how all these Temptations & Marvin Gaye ‘two on one’ albums released last year combine one great album with a lesser album, and they miss ‘Sky’s The Limit’ (which nearly got in my list).

If someone had time there’d be an interesting ‘Best of the Best’ statistic. This GB has mentioned the same albums several times – Velvet Underground 3, Astral Weeks, Moondance, American Beauty, Workingman’s Dead, Storyville, Wild The Innocent & The E-Street Shuffle, Neil Young Unplugged, Let it Bleed, The Rocking Chair Album. On some days, I could have chosen any one of them. Rickie Lee Jones, Little Feat, Joni Mitchell appear a lot, but with a variety of albums.

So what’s missing? A good Curtis Mayfield album (Superfly?). A good Cannonball Adderley (Mercy, Mercy, Mercy?) Both influential on The Hawks / The Band.

Bernstein: The slow movement, Adagio assai, of Ravel’s Piano Concerto in G Major is one of my favourite relaxing pieces of music and was on my list because I play it a lot. I like it so much that I have several versions. Bernstein at the piano from 1959 plays it slower than anyone else does, and has a feel in the music that’s right. The piece was commissioned by the Boston Symphony Orchestra in 1929 after Ravel had toured the USA. Ravel thought from a 1920s French viewpoint, that both the Concerto in G Major and the Concerto for The Left Hand (written the same year) “include some elements borrowed from jazz, but only in moderation.” I read somewhere that Bernstein did it best ‘because he’s American’ (and supposedly had more feel for jazz). I think all it means is that there’s a lot of freedom in the phrasing, which Bernstein exploits. As I know very little about classical music, please be kind when you tell me I’m talking nonsense!


Posted on Wed Dec 19 15:11:01 CET 2001 from garco.cpe.newsouth.net (64.90.4.86)

Mike Carrico

From: Georgia

The pool's getting pretty crowded, but I'll jump in anyway...with a self-imposed limit of only one album by our guys, otherwise my list would tilt precariously towards the Catskills:

Bob Dylan - The Basement Tapes (in any of its various incarnations...the backup band ain't too shabby either

The Crackers - Music From Big Pink

Howlin' Wolf - Evil

Ry Cooder - Into The Purple Valley

Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels On A Gravel Road

Procol Harum - A Salty Dog

Jimmy Cliff (& others) - The Harder They Come

Van Morrison - Astral Weeks

The Kinks - Something Else (can't have a top ten without "Waterloo Sunset")

Dr. John - Gumbo


Posted on Wed Dec 19 14:40:05 CET 2001 from (63.66.135.217)

JTull fan

From: Richmond

Greatest album of time? K-Tel's double album Best of the Monkees from 1974. I was 5 years old at the time and begged my mom to order it, and it took an agonizing 5 weeks to arrive. It was my first pop/rock album EVER, and compared to today's kids who listen to Barney and friends until they are 8, I would say the Monkees were pretty good taste for a 5 year old. A year later I was onto Elton's Greatest hits #1 for birthday # 6, and my older brother bought me Beatles 1962-1966 when I was 7, and so long Monkees. But for me, i gotta pick that Monkees album from K-Tel, becuase without that first step, I wouldn't have gotten to the Beatles at such an early age, then the Band, Dylan, Blues, Tull, etc. etc.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 10:35:21 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp68303.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.184.176)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

IT'S TOO LATE.......TO STOP ME NOW.....ANOTHER FAVE LIST.....

Etta James....LIFE, LOVE AND THE BLUES....she responds like Etta can only respond to life and men with the Bluesssssss
KoKo Taylor....THE EARTH SHAKER....I'M A WOMAN....she responds to the boyzzzzz
Rickie Lee Jones....RICKIE LEE JONES....Rickie would never be the same once Tom Waites left.....
Jefferson Airplane....WHITE RABBIT AND OTHER HITS....Grace Slick was one of the few female rockers in the 60's....
David Bowie....HUNKY DORY....David sings to Louuu and Dylan
Echo And The Bunnymen....BALLYHOO THE BEST OF....Mr. England Cool right here....well younger version of Bryan Ferry
UB40....LABOUR OF LOVE....classic reggae tunes brought to life
Bush....SIXTEEN STONE....Gavin Rossdale at his best as a writer and singer on this recording
Daniel Lanois....THE BEAUTY OF WYNONA....LOTTA LOVE and THE MESSENGER and STILL LEARNING HOW TO CRAWL....Lanois the producer proves he can also play and sing as well....Daryl Johnson, Ronald Jones, Bill Dillon and Malcolm Burn....very tight group here
Black Uhuru....LIBERATION....THE ISLAND ANTHOLOGY....they're all here
LOUUUU REED....THE BELLS....Louu exposes himself in FAMILIES and even responds to Disco in DISCO MYSTIC.....but the song which shows Louuu hungry for.....ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT........



Posted on Wed Dec 19 09:19:39 CET 2001 from hoiberg.hiof.no (158.36.51.55)

jh

testing again


Posted on Wed Dec 19 09:18:02 CET 2001 from hoiberg.hiof.no (158.36.51.55)

jh

Testing


Posted on Wed Dec 19 08:20:09 CET 2001 from tayhou-207-218-236-82.ev1.net (207.218.236.82)

Laura Holt Lorfing

From: Houston

Hello to all! The GB doesn't seem to be the same place it use to be. I guess the adjustments had to be done in order to keep the disorderlies out... LOL! Oh well, I miss you guys! It's hard being a new mom and it's even harder keeping a "Band GB Life" much less a social one! Hello to Acadian Rudy and Donna in PA! I'm still waiting for Levon to make his way back to the South. I still think of last January when I saw The BB's at "The Mucky Duck" and Emy...(you are such a gem) introduced me to Chi Chi..who in turn introduced me to Levon. It was one of the happiest moments of my life! As we all know, Levon was the down home SOuthern GEnt. He acted like he had known me all my life as he patted my tummy and said "Good luck with that baby of yours...I'm so glad you came to the show"! I must say..WHO BESIDES LEVON would be that down to earth!!I hope to see Mr. Helm soon and to all you GB'ers...PEACE!!


Posted on Wed Dec 19 08:07:37 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk042.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.37)

Donna

From: PA

Like Cupid had mentioned, this is my top 10 at this time:

Muddy Waters - Fathers and Sons

Taj Mahal - Giant Step/De Ole Folks at Home

Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble - Texas Flood

Little Feat - Waiting for Columbus

Van Morrison - Tupelo Honey

Patsy Cline - Heartaches

Allman Brothers - Live at Fillmore East

Carole King - Tapestry

Janis Joplin - Pearl

Roxy Music - Avalon

On the top of the list of course, is my favorite Band Albums, which include:

Music From Big Pink, The Band, Rock of Ages, Rick Danko - Times Like These, Live on Breeze Hill, Levon Helm - American Son. Sorry if I cheated. :D)


Posted on Wed Dec 19 06:42:11 CET 2001 from mplsdslgw10poolc127.mpls.uswest.net (63.228.42.127)

P.S. 2001

Web page

10 fav albums? Is that what this is? The Band-The Band...Skylarking-XTC...Imperial Bedroom-Elvis Costello...Black Market-Weather Report...Electric Ladyland-Jimi Hendrix...There's A Riot Goin'On-Sly and the Family Stone...Astral Weeks-Van Morrison...Innervisions-Stevie Wonder...Blue Train-John Coltrane...Speak No Evil-Wayne Shorter. was that even the question? oh well. maybe i reccomended some albums to yall. yeah thats the ticket...


Posted on Wed Dec 19 06:30:02 CET 2001 from dialup-63.215.119.237.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.215.119.237)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Bumbles, all that thinkin' just to include two greatest hits packages on your lists? Gee whiz. And if you listen real close, you'll hear tons of singing on any number of Aaron Copand long players, even with Bernstein conducting. That and lots of big drums. And those Weather Report fellows (lots of drums, too, and a bit of singing) played kinda slow on that Black Market long player.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 05:18:50 CET 2001 from spider-tm031.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.56)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Those Usherson pics are really cool... but somebody remind me again... why wasn't Gordon Lightfoot in TLW?...


Posted on Wed Dec 19 04:57:57 CET 2001 from (12.88.105.245)

Ray Cas

From: NY

Top Ten (No particular order)

The Band - The Band

Robbie Robertson - Storyville

The Grateful Dead - American Beauty

Van Morrison - Moondance

Springsteen - Born to Run

Marc Cohn - Marc Cohn

Dylan - Blood on the Tracks

Neil Young - Unplugged

Van Halen - Van Halen

Jackson Browne - Late for the Sky

Box Sets (top five)

CSNY

Grateful Dead - So Many ROads -

Dylan - Biograph

SPringsteen - Live 75-85

Dylan - Bootleg Series Vol 1-3



Posted on Wed Dec 19 03:20:36 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tf021.proxy.aol.com (64.12.103.26)

Brien Sz

From: nj

In no particular order after number 1:

1.Rock of Ages/Band
2.Brown/Band
3.Close to the Edge/Yes
4.Blow by Blow/Jeff Beck
5.By Your Side/Black Crowes - It Rocks and rocks and rocks and when you think it can't rock much more, it Rocks!
6. Live at Carnigie Hall/Stevie Ray Vaughn
7.Storyville/RR
8. Ten/Pearl Jam
9.Echoes/Pink Floyd
10. Live at the Filmore West/Allman Brothers
Honarable Mentions: Waiting for Columbus/Little Feat, Radartown/Mark Germino and the Sluggers, Yessongs/Yes, Live from Folsom County Jail/Johnny Cash and many others..,


Posted on Wed Dec 19 02:26:05 CET 2001 from (24.69.255.202)

Cupid

Rather than my top 10 all time hows about my top 10 at this time:

John Hammond, Wicked Grin

Miles Davis,Kind of Blue

Steve Earle, Trancendental Blues

REM Reckoning

Layne Redmond, Chanting the Chakra's

Tom Waits, The Alice Demo's

Oh Sister Bluegrass compilation CD

Midnight Oil, Earth and Sun and Moon

Emmylou Harris, Red Dirt Girl

Miles Davis, Bitches Brew

Lou Reed & John Cale, Songs for Drella

An all time top 10 would be really hard becouse of my ever expanding ever changing musical taste I mean this top 10 list has 11 enteries...This week it's Jazz and Indian folk music next week it could the songs of Bulgarian Shepards and Inuit throat singing..we just don't know. Peace Cupid


Posted on Wed Dec 19 02:16:05 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp71494.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.197.65)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

Well.....thanks a lot Richard......you shouldn't have reminded me about BOX SETS........MY RULES....ANY NUMBER IS ACCEPTABLE....:-D

Golden Earring....The Devil Made Us Do It....35 YEARS....compliments of Norbert..;-D
Cuby And The Blizzards....THE SINGLES COLLECTION....compliments of Norbert..;-D
Bob Dylan....BIOGRAPH
Bob Dylan....THE BOOTLEG SERIES VOLUMES 1-3 (rare and unreleased) 1961-1991
Bob Marley And The Wailers....TRENCH TOWN ROCK
Tougher Than Tough....THE STORY OF JAMAICAN MUSIC....SKA, ROCK STEADY, REGGAE, DUB, DANCE HALL, RAGGA
BOB MARLEY....SONGS OF FREEDOM


Posted on Wed Dec 19 02:02:03 CET 2001 from spider-wn013.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.153)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

My Secret Santa at work got me a 4-pack of Boddington's! That would make even Joan Baez sound good!


Posted on Wed Dec 19 01:54:09 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

Bumbles: I'm with you on HUMS OF THE LOVIN' SPOONFUL. That record would be at the top of my Top Ten Underrated Records List. The first album by the Spoonful would be on there, too. I also forgot about the Allman Brothers' 4-disc DREAMS collection on my box set list, but it's been a while since I heard that one.

Judging from the long lines of people at the local Best Buy store with piles of CDs in their arms today, lots of folks must be reading the lists here and buying for their friends and family accordingly (if only!)

By the way: I misspelled the name of that Zappa 4 disc set for anyone who cares. The real title is APOCRYPHA and a mint copy sold on Ebay recently for around a hundred bucks.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 01:50:08 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp71494.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.197.65)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

The day after a rough night......My faves continue.....so glad that I have them by my side.......

J Geils Band....Sanctuary....bye Faye Dunaway?
World Party....Private Revolution....masterpiece....SHIP OF FOOLS
Waterboys....A Pagan Place....This Is The Sea....Mike Scott....brilliant writer and singer
Patti Smith....Dream Of Life....PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER....empowering....
Neil Young....Unplugged....very tasty guitar by Nils Lofgren and Neil....LOOK OUT FOR MY LOVE
John Lee Hooker....CHILL OUT....Santana and Van help out
Maria McKee....Maria McKee....always mighty fine singing
Ry Cooder....BOP TILL YOU DROP
Bryan Ferry....THE BRIDE STRIPPED BARE....bye Jerry Hall?
Graham Parker....THE UP ESCALATOR....can't say enough about his writing and idiosyncratic singing....
Marianne Faithfull....BROKEN ENGLISH....her masterpiece
Rod the Mod Stewart....EVERY PICTURE TELLS A STORY....when he still had an edge....
Shane MacGowan And The Popes....THE SNAKE
Louuuu Reed....ECSTASY....Louuuuu grows up but still not very hopeful about personal relationships...."IT'S ALL DOWN HILL AFTER THE FIRST KISS"
Dennis Brown....RARE GROOVES RHYTHM AND BLUES VOL 2....Prince Of Reggae....Mr. Soul
Bob Marley And The Wailers....TRENCH TOWN ROCK....A FOUR DISC SET
Joe Strummer And The Mescaleros....GLOBAL A GO-GO
Bruuuuuuce Springsteen....DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN
Johnny Rivers....GREATEST HITS
Rick Nelson....GREATEST HITS
Four Seasons....GREATEST HITS
Cat Stevens....FOREIGNER....great concept recording
I'll just add the rest of my music collection now....................;-DD


Posted on Wed Dec 19 01:37:59 CET 2001 from st-catherines-ppp126429.sympatico.ca (209.226.233.88)

Richard

From: St Catharines

JOHN D: You've created a monster !!!

re: COPLAND/DYLAN LINK. Hey, I'm pretty sure the Dylan show I saw a few weeks ago used Copland for the cattle call... JOHN D, BROWN EYED GIRL, ANYBODY ELSE WHO WENT TO DYLAN IN TORONTO, do you remember? And if you do remember, and it was Copland, who was conducting?

I don't own 10 box sets so I can't play that game... Poor me : (


Posted on Wed Dec 19 01:11:25 CET 2001 from spider-tm074.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.79)

Benpike

From: Cleveland Tx

"I saw a begger leaning on his broken crutch, he said to me you should not ask for so much,

And a pretty woman leaning in her darked door, She cried to, "hey, why not ask for more?""

-L Cohen

I think it is interesting that while some choose bastardized versions of Beatles albums (Something New), others beat the system by picking massive boxed sets. Truely, it takes all kinds.

On another topic, I was just reading a piece in "Pychotronic" from about a year ago about Cleveland's "UPBEAT" music show, which aparently was on from 64 t0 70, and booked everyone from one hit wonders, to soul acts who never got on T.V., to the Beatles and Stones. Yes, the peice claims The Band was on too, and that tapes of many of the shows still exsist. So, there may be one more Band TV appearence out there somewhere.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 01:04:00 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-te014.proxy.aol.com (64.12.103.154)

Bumbles

From: The Garden State

MR. V: I must not be paying attention; I thought Pat 'Boots' Brennan imposed the "ban." And I certainly did notice your very hip 4 Seasons selection; like my Drifters collection, a contender for the mythical "ultimate NYC album" title, albeit from the Newark side of the river. But since much (most?) of the best rock/pop/soul/funk of the past 45 years has been hit-focused & singles-oriented, it follows that best-of's are the natural home for much of the best rock/pop/soul/funk… And since artists who concentrated on singles and produced albums only as an afterthought or when they had enough hits for a best-of tend to be from the soul and country side of things (and/or female), eliminating best-of's from consideration seems harshly exclusionary. I quite agree with your self-imposed limits to keep your list-making manageable. I was only thinking of single-artist collections that were originally released on vinyl---"real" albums in other words---myself. (I did slip in a Lovin' Spoonful collection released last year, but would happily substitute "Hums of the Lovin' Spoonful.") As much as I enjoy them and as many as I buy, 30-track collections from Ace and Bear Family, loaded with unreleased tracks and booklets that barely fit in the case, seem like unfair competition for a humble 12-tracker released 35 years ago, as do box sets.
What's wrong with Leonard Bernstein and Weather Report? No drums, no singin' (former); "they try to play it too darn fast" (latter).


Posted on Wed Dec 19 01:01:28 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk061.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.46)

Calvin

Jenny T-RE: Husker DU. Bob Mould, the singer, lead guitarist and primary songrwiter releases solo albums and with a group called sugar, I believe one of the other guys quite music and is a chef, the 3rd has had some small success-if you liked Husker Du you might qant to pick up Moulds later stuff.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 00:54:30 CET 2001 from dialup-209.244.64.83.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (209.244.64.83)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Gosh, I apologize to everyone for liking Weather Report and Copland (Bernstein conducting). And for thinking we should deal with the artists' vision of their music rather than the labels'.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 00:28:20 CET 2001 from spider-tp033.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.188)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

It seems that Hits and Compilation albums are frowned upon by some. Well by God, I like 'em. There are some people that I just want the compilations of =

CHICAGO - ELVIS - STEVE MILLER - CHARLIE DANIELS BAND - JOURNEY - BAD CO. - BOSTON - GLENN CAMPBELL - TOMJONES - LOVIN' SPOONFUL - BOB SEGER - CAROLE KING

Then there are the ones that I like most of the work of, AND the hits collections are just great to put on and crank up =

JERRY REED - PAUL SIMON (alone and with Artie) - DIRE STRAITS - THE BAND - BEACH BOYS - HENDRIX - CCR - NEIL YOUNG - BOB DYLAN

Then there's a couple that I wish they had called me to put the cd together =

BEATLES - The "1" CD is fine. I just hate hearing Let It Be with the single version of the guitar solo - and I perfer the rooftop version of Get Back ( John's "pass the audition" comment).....CLAPTON = Crossroads was good, but Timepeices really dosen't snow his best stuff to me. I've never been as crazy about "I Shot The Sheriff (sorry Broooooown Eyed Girl), as say, Let It Grow (same album).


Posted on Wed Dec 19 00:26:40 CET 2001 from dialin-1371-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.6.101)

Gene

* Band, 'Pink' Re-Master

* Fleetwood Mac, 'Shrine '69

* Flying Burrito Bros., 'Hot Burritos Anthology 1969-72'

* Band, 'Brown' Re-Master

* Spencer Davis, 'I'm A Man' (Sundazed)

* Beatles, 'Complete BBC'

* Linda Ronstadt, 'Heart Like A Wheel'

* Byrds, 'Sweetheart Of The Rodeo' Re-Master

* Gene Clark, 'A Star For Every Stage'

* Danko\Kaukonen, 'Troy Music Hall'

* George Harrison, 'Cloud 9'

* Pink Floyd, 'Dark Side Of The Moon' MFSL

* Paul McCartney, 'Band On The Run'

* Butterfield, 'Ressurrection Of Pigboy Crabshaw'

In no particular order, and subject to change. Couldn't resist a few boots. Couldn't stick to 10, either.


Posted on Wed Dec 19 00:18:13 CET 2001 from ptldme-cmt3-s-24-31-154-115.maine.rr.com (24.31.154.115)

MattK

Day 2 List:

1) Rickie Lee Jones - Rickie Lee Jones
2) Life's Rich Pageant - REM
3) Humans - Bruce Cockburn
4) Workbook - Bob Mould (thanks for reminding me, Jan)
5) Dumbing Up - World Party
6) Roxy and Elsewhere - Frank Zappa
7) The Bears - The Bears
8) Peter Gabriel - Security
9) Hounds of Love
10)CD/Album/Tape - Public Image Limited

Box Sets:

1) Ray Charles - The Birth Of Soul...(1952-1959)
2) Miles Davis - The Complete Columbia...(1965-1968)
3) The Who - 30 Years of Maximum R/B
4) John Coltrane - Complete Prestige Recordings
5) Bill Evans - The Complete Riverside Recordings
6) Willie Dixon - The Chess Box
7) Muddy Waters - The Chess Box
8) T-Bone Walker - The Complete Imperial Recordings
9) Central Avenue Sounds (a great compilation of Los Angeles Jazz and R/B from the 1920s through the 1950s)
10) The Mercury Blues 'N'Rhythm Story...1945-1955


Posted on Wed Dec 19 00:11:02 CET 2001 from dv007s40.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.40.7)

Ray Pence

From: Casper Wyoming

Some CDs I don't have and would like:

1 Remastered Moondog Matinee, Band

2 Academy of Outtakes, Band

3 Phil Spector's Christmas Album

4 Interstellar Space, John Coltrane

5 Sweetheart of the Rodeo, Byrds

6 In a Silent Way, Miles Davis

7 A good Al Green compilation

8 A good Otis Redding compilation

9 A good Johnny Rivers compilation

10 Mingus, Joni Mitchell



Posted on Tue Dec 18 23:52:37 CET 2001 from dialin-1371-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.6.101)

Gene

oops, I meant "Rosanne" not "Roseanne". Sorry, Rosanne.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 23:46:54 CET 2001 from dialin-1371-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.6.101)

Gene

Web page

Roseanne Cash - Great Choice. At the link above, Roseanne Cash shares her memories, meeting George Harrison in the mid-80s.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 23:32:49 CET 2001 from st-catherines-ppp112528.sympatico.ca (216.209.140.157)

Richard

From: St Catharines

Thanks BUMBLES. Inspired by PETER VINEY'S idea of looking at other peoples lists and posting albums we were too dumb to think of in the first place... Here's my top 10 for today...

Gram Parsons: Grievous Angel
Steve Earle & The Del McCoury Band: The Mountain
The Replacements: Tim
Big Star: Radio City
Howlin' Wolf (the rocking chair album)
Velvet Underground: Velvet Underground (3rd)
James Brown: Live at the Apollo
Muddy Waters: Hard Again
Lucinda Williams: Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Grateful Dead: Workingman's Dead...

OK I'll stop now I promise : ).


Posted on Tue Dec 18 23:33:27 CET 2001 from spider-wj084.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.59)

Mel

From: Texas

Heard that Robbie will be giving the keynote address at next spring's South by Southwest music festival in Austin. Check out their web page, if y're interested: www.sxsw.com. Don't know if this festival is much known outside the southwest but here in the Lone Star, it's a pretty big deal. Has an independent film component as well. Cheers.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 23:15:59 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

I just heard an awful thing, Brenda Lee has been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame....somebody just tear that place down! I forgot to mention Woody's "Dust Bowl Ballads" I don't think anyone else did..so I just did.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 23:13:20 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

OK, call me stuck in the Viet Nam era:

1) The Brown Album

2) The White Album

3) Abbey Road

4) Pet Sounds

5) Big Pink

6) Stagefright

7) Blonde on Blonde

8) Highway 61 Revisited

9) The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle

10) Electric Ladyland

...and my ten favorite boxed sets (for this year):

1) Frank Zappa-APROCRYPHA (this is actually an Italian bootleg 4 disc set that is so well done it will do just fine until an official set is issued)

2) The Band-ACROSS THE GREAT DIVIDE (flawed but still an incomparable collection)

3) Bob Dylan-BOOTLEG SET VOLUMES 1-3

4) The Who-30 YEARS OF MAXIMUM R&B

5) The Jimi Hendrix Experience (4 disc set)

6) Emmylou Harris-PORTRAITS (an amazing "auteur" overview of one of our greatest vocalist's entire career)

7) Los Lobos-EL CANCIONERO MAS Y MAS

8) Little Feat-HOTCAKES AND OUTTAKES

9) The Byrds Boxed Set

10) Grateful Dead-THE GOLDEN ROAD (1965-1973)


Posted on Tue Dec 18 22:52:23 CET 2001 from wc12.wlfdle.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.79)

Toronto Craig

From: Toronto

Bumbles- good choices re Denise Lasalle and Al Green. I'm a devout follower of the Malaco label with Denise, Tyrone Davis, Johnny Taylor, Little Milton, ZZ Hill etc. And what can anyone say about Rev Al that would do him justice. Denise has one of the best titles to any song I have ever collected "Your Husband is Cheating On Us". Good choices. Toronto Craig


Posted on Tue Dec 18 22:47:43 CET 2001 from (208.11.92.3)

Bud

From: Cleveland, OH

I don't know how many times I've engaged in this "Top Ten Albums" exercise, but it's always a bear. As of today:

Chuck Berry - The Great 28 (I tried to avoid compilations, but oh well...)

Van Halen - Van Halen

Guns'N'Roses - Appetite For Destruction

The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street

Little Feat - Dixie Chicken

5 Chinese Brothers - Singer, Songwriter, Beggarman Thief

Aerosmith - Rocks

AC/DC - Back In Black

Steve Earle & The Del McCoury Band - The Mountain

The Band - Music From Big Pink

It was great to see Gram Parsons getting a few nods (I wish that he'd gotten them from the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame voters). Another compilation that might have made the cut on a different day is Sam Cooke (w/ the Soul Stirrers) - His Earliest Recordings (Aretha Franklin's _Amazing Grace_ is another superb album in the same vein).


Posted on Tue Dec 18 22:02:15 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk021.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.26)

benpike

From: Cleveland TX.

O.K., here goes.... 1) Bill Clinton was set up by a sleazy mix of the right wing corperate media and the trashest slime of republican "moralists"...

opps, sorry, that's not an album. I'll try again...

1) The Band/The Band

2) Bruce Springsteen/ Tunnel Of Love

3) Richard Thompson/You? Me? Us?

4) Rikki Lee Jones/ Pirates

5) The Beatles/ Revolver

6) The Rolling Stones/ Let It Bleed

7) Paul Simon/ Paul Simon

8) Loudon Wainwright/ History

9) The Replacments/ Tim

10) Bob Dylan/ John Westly Harding

The no anthology rule effectivly knocks out allmost all early rock, Motown, Stax, and a lot of other stuff. A well assembled expanded Basement Tapes would knock out anything. What the hell, it can't be anything more than ten arbitrary favorites anyway. My all time guilty pleasure: Dan Fogelberg's "Home Free." His first, Norman Putnam produced album, with none of the schmaltzy overkill that would ruin the rest of his albums and make him a kagillionare. (Well, the second one wasn't bad either.) By the way, someone on the GB said something good about Loudon Wainwright a few weeks back, perhaps all my harping has not been in vain.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 21:58:40 CET 2001 from du-tele3-123.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.123)

Peter Viney

Bumbles – the “ban” was merely a way of cutting my own list to manageable proportions, not anyone else’s, and actually I did NOT mention ‘Best of’s” (I included The Four Seasons best of myself) – it was Various artists and more than one by any artist that I banned myself from using. This is what I said:

I’ve tried to simplify my task by allowing only one album per artist and disallowing various artist compilations.

So what’s wrong with Leonard Bernstein and Weather report? (not that I imagine they played together). In fact as your post contains two I should have chosen myself (There’s A Riot Going On, Velvet Underground Three) it inspired me to a second list of what I missed. Still following my ban.

1) Music From Big Pink 2) Street Legal 3) Let it Bleed 4) Magical Mystery Tour 5) Hejira 6) Velvet Underground (third) 7) There’s A Riot Going On 8) Hearts and Bones 9) Volunteers 10) Hot Rats.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 21:54:53 CET 2001 from tres01.ashe.miami.edu (129.171.41.240)

Green

I know there will be at least a few folks in here who'll be happy to hear that they're re-releasing the first three out of print Uncle Tupelo albums on March 12, 2002. How sweet it is...


Posted on Tue Dec 18 21:42:23 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk042.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.37)

Bumbles

From: The Garden State

Inspired by Richard from St. Catherines' excellent notion of posting entirely different---and equally valid--- lists on successive days, I've done the same:

(1) There's a Riot Goin' On, Sly & the Family Stone
(2) Have Moicy!, Michael Hurley/The Unholy Modal Rounders/Jeffrey Fredericks & the Clamtones
(3) Something New, The Beatles (U.S. lp, 1964)
(4) The Velvet Underground, The Velvet Underground (3rd lp)
(5) The Band, The Band
(6) Trapped by a Thing Called Love, Denise La Salle
(7) Rhythm & Romance, Rosanne Cash
(8) Them, Them (1st U.S. lp, 1965; includes "Gloria" & "Here Comes the Night")
(9) Truth N' Time, Al Green
(10) The Drifters' Golden Hits, The Drifters (1968 lp; the post-Ben E. King Drifters with songs & production from Leiber & Stoller, Bert Berns, Pomus & Shuman, Goffin & King and Mann & Weill + "Under the Boardwalk"---the ultimate New York City album).

WHY would anyone pay any attention to a ban on best-of's---especially one proposed by someone listing Weather Report and Leonard Bernstein? Ridiculous.

SOMEONE listed Howard Tate so I thought I'd mention that his eponymous 1972 Atlantic lp featuring a cover of "Jemima Surrender" has recently been released on CD. While not among Tate's finest moments (those are on the groundbreaking 1967 "Get It While You Can" lp, already deleted on CD), it's not Joan Baez bad. And for hipster cachet, it ranks just after Aretha, Ray Charles, the Staples, and the Mekons in the overwhelmingly awful field of Band covers.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 21:09:58 CET 2001 from 01-057.046.popsite.net (64.24.231.57)

Jenny T

From: Ohio

Jan: I saw Husker Du in Boston in 86 or 87. (I don't know how to make umlauts.) It was VERY LOUD. Whatever happened to them?


Posted on Tue Dec 18 20:32:46 CET 2001 from stcatherines-ppp109149.sympatico.ca (216.209.112.80)

Richard

From: PSA

Thanks KALERVO, that was a great post. An aside to anyone trying to shake their addiction demons in 2002. If you've been to an AA or NA meeting and found it to be not your cup of tea, try a different group in a different city. Try to place the principles of the program ahead of the personalities you meet, as these meetings can be filled with very fallible people with very little sobriety. You know, human beings : ). And God bless anybody out there who has a problem and wants to shake it. Try more than one meeting. Here endith the lesson. And now back to our regularly scheduled programming...


Posted on Tue Dec 18 20:13:01 CET 2001 from pc51-119.hiof.no (158.36.51.119)

jh

The Band: Music from Big Pink (1968)
Warren Zevon: Warren Zevon (1976)
Eldkvarn: Limbo (1999 - Sweden)
Hüsker Dü: Candy Apple Grey (1986)
The Band: The Band (1969)
Warren Zevon: Sentimental Hygiene (1987)
Garth Hudson: The Sea to the North (2001)
Gram Parsons: Grievous Angel (1973)
R.E.M.: Murmur (1983)
Ryan Adams: Gold (2001)


Posted on Tue Dec 18 20:02:18 CET 2001 from host-65-164-8-8.co.erie.ny.us (65.164.8.8)

G-MAN

Something current/futuristic!!! Check out Jim Weider Web site: Touring/News re......REMEDY!!!!


Posted on Tue Dec 18 20:02:03 CET 2001 from spider-to012.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.47)

Steve

From: Denver

I am trying to find some bootlegs for a freind in Slovenia. He is a true hard core fan and would love to get his hands on something. Any help would of course be much appreciated. He would E mail himself but he is to shy to write in english I think. By the way this is a great site.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 18:22:55 CET 2001 from dialin-738-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.3.230)

Gene

Moby Grape, Spirit, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac...you guys ROCK!!!! That's why I keep coming back here, the best music (and other issues) discussions ANYWHERE. Happy Crimble to all.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 17:31:17 CET 2001 from (209.202.124.133)

Bill

One of the things that's interesting about our top-10 entries is that even where we agree on our favourite artists, we so often disagree on our favourite albums by those artists. I'd almost put Moby Grape on my list, as David Powell did, but would plump for "20 Granite Creek" over his choice, the finger LP. And we have at least three Traffic albums nominated - not bad for a neglected group from 30 years ago.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 17:16:05 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

When I really want to do some serious listening to music, I don't turn to CDs, MP3S or audio DVDs -- no I get out those thick, long playing slabs of vinyl. Some of my digiphile friends accuse me of being an accute analogue retentive. So, when it came to choosing my alltime Top Ten list, I went through the LPs that I've repeatedly listened to recently. From the stack of vinyl that I've culled for heavy rotation play on my turntable over tha past few months, here's my list:

First off, the great albums from The Band -- "Music From Big Pink" and "The Band".

Dylan's "Highway 61 Revisited" -- my current reference copy is the Sundazed heavy vinyl reissue sourced from the original mono master.

Next, I venture into the slipstream with Van Morrison's debut on Warner Bros. Records, "Astral Weeks".

My fifth choice is "Return of the Grevious Angel" from the late great Gram Parsons & Emmylou Harris.

An old chestnut from the '60s -- "The Man With The Blue Guitar" from the wonderful jazz guitarist, Johnny Smith, featuring an exquisite version of "Shenandoah".

Next up is that classic Chess LP from Howlin' Wolf that's referred to as "the rocking chair album" due to the cover picture. The Wolf at his best, defining, in the words of Sam Phillips, "where the soul of man never dies"!

My eighth pick goes to an LP I've been listening to constantly over the last two months, Gene Clark's 1971 A&M release, known as "White Light". With this magnificent album, the often, sadly over-looked Byrd soared to new solo heights, with assistance from the gifted Jesse Ed Davis. Contains a fine cover version of "Tears of Rage", along with an amazing collection of original songs, including one of my alltime favorite songs, "Spanish Guitar".

As with Dylan and The Band, I hold certain recordings by the Beatles and the Rolling Stones in equally high esteem, as do many of you, judging by your own top ten choices. For my last two picks, however, I'm by-passing the Englishmen in favor of two fine American bands, Moby Grape and NRBQ. My ninth & tenth picks go to the eponymous debut albums from Grape and the original Q group, both released on Columbia Records' "360" label in 1967 and 1969 respectively.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 17:12:52 CET 2001 from citrix5.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.9)

John Cass

From: VT

Just wanted to mention to the Gb that Richie Havens has released a solo album titled Wishing Well. I received it in the mail yesterday and it is one of the greatest albums I have ever heard!!! Richie sings some songs that will bring a chill to your spine he is a increadable talent.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 17:07:57 CET 2001 from (205.245.52.66)

carmen

From: pa

Top 10

BAND - Big Pink & Brown

Dylan - Blood On The Tracks

Springsteen - The Wild, Innocent & E St

Van Morrison - Moondance

Stones - Black & Blue

Neil young - After The Gold Rush

Beetles - Let It Be

Rick Danko - Rick Danko

Robbie Robertson - Storyville

Honorable Mention - Counting Crows / August & Everything After


Posted on Tue Dec 18 16:41:51 CET 2001 from sam23.revealed.net (208.16.227.118)

Mike

From: Iowa

Tommy, nice to see something by The Police. If I am going to pick something by groups...Hmm! There are a few ties among certain groups

Allman Bros:Idlewild South, The Band:Rock Of Ages and Northern Lights, The Beatles:Abbey Road and Rubber Soul; The Byrds: Younger Than Yesterday and Notorious Byrd Brothers, Cream:Wheels Of Fire, Derek and the Dominos:Layla, Deep Purple: In Rock and Made In Japan, The Doors: LA Woman, The Eagles: One Of Thse Nights, Fleetwood Mac: Then Play On, Genesis: A Trick Of The Tail, Marvin Gaye: What's Going On, The Guess Who: American Woman, Jimi Hendirx: Axis Bold As Love, Little Feat: Sailin' Shoes and Waiting For Columbus, Lynyrd Skynyrd: Prnounced and Second Helping, Marshall Tucker: Searching For A Rainbow, Poco: Picking Up The Pieces and A Good Feeling To Know, The Police: Regatta De Blanc, Rush: A Farewell To Kings, Steely Dan: Katy Lied/Countdown To Ecstasy and AJA, Traffic: High Spark, The Who: Quadrophenia, Zappa: Sheik Yerbouti and Apostrophe...My head hurts. May I go now?! Peace.

Mike


Posted on Tue Dec 18 16:33:51 CET 2001 from (209.202.124.133)

Bill

I've been meaning to mention that I caught ex-Hawk Scott Cushnie doing a couple of boogie and swing numbers as one of the guest at a benefit for the homeless at Hugh's Room (in Toronto's west end) last Thursday. Jeff Healey did a couple songs too.

By the way, Colin Linden's band, Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, plays at the same club on the 22nd. I guess Richard Bell will be there too.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 16:22:08 CET 2001 from (209.202.124.133)

Bill

Having gone home and looked at the two remaining feet of best-loved LPs, and a few dozen best-loved CDs, I'd like to make some amendments. First, clarify that the John Lennon LP I've listed is the LP with "God" on it, which is, I think, "Plastic Ono Band". Then yank Randy Newman, Van Morrison and James Brown. Then add the Thompsons, Chilliwack and Love Sculpture:

"I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight" by Richard and Linda Thompson

"Chilliwack" by Chilliwack (the one on Parrot)

"Forms and Feelings" by Love Sculpture

"Big Pink" by the Band

"Aardvark" by Kensington Market

"12 Dreams of Dr Sardonicus" by Spirit

"Let It Bleed" by the Stones

"Sweet And Dandy" by Toots and the Maytals

"Layla" by Derek and the Dominoes

"Plastic Ono Band" by John Lennon


Posted on Tue Dec 18 16:11:06 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Ran City

forgive me for coming back but I forgot to mention a few songs that still tear at my heart strings after so many years. Th Band's "Whispering Pines" and "Rockin' Chair", Hank William's "Old Log Train" John Prine's "Hobo Song" and most of The Seldom Scene's "The New Seldom Scene Album. I'm gone now.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 16:09:49 CET 2001 from pppa60-resalepoughkeepsie1-4r7146.dialinx.net (4.54.37.153)

crow

From: everywhere
Web page

regarding the new joyous lake, I was priveleged to have the oportunity to build the new bar last month. I have been to and played at the j. lake in every incarnation since Ron Merians had it in it's hayday and this is the best it's ever been. Every aspect of the extensive remodeling is breathtaking to see. They really brought the wood back to woodstock! The new owner (yes, he bought the building AND the name) Greg Shaffrick is the first guy I've seen in there with a clue about how to run an upscale music venue / restaurant in a couple of decades. I don't think we'll see a return to "punk rock wednesdays" anytime soon. I'm not sure when the opening will be but it'll be a night to remember fer sure. Hope to see y'all there.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 14:19:53 CET 2001 from dialup-304.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.48)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

Has anyone heard The Brown Album by....... Primus?

It was sad to hear about Stuart from Big Country......I was never a huge fan of theirs but I remember them well and also recall they opened for Dylan on a few dates in Europe during The '80ies.

What does anyone here think of Timmy and The Lords of The Underworld?

I just deleted a Humongous list of albums from this space........It's doin' me head in to try and compile a list.....I'll try again later.........


Posted on Tue Dec 18 13:10:57 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tc073.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.183)

James

My ten favourite, which has been pretty steady for more years than I care to think about would be

The Band's Rock of Ages (almost every cut a little more expressive or more eloquent than the studio original)

Little Feat Waiting for Columbus (same sort of thing but much more agressive. And Lowell George sings better than nearly anybody)

Who's Next (my favourite synthesiser album)

Joni Mitchell - Hejira (exquisitely intimate playing from Jaco Pastorius, Victor Feldman and Larry Carlton. She sings better than usually)

Beatles - Revolver (better grounded than what came after, more inspired than what before)

Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street (if there's such a thing as a best-ever rock opus, this be it. And Brian Jones would've loved it.)

Jethro Tull - A Passion Play (the apotheosis of folk-rock fertilised by classical pretensions)

Van Morrison - Astral Weeks (a sublime mating of poetry and jazz)

Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks (the outwards-seeking imagination coupled with the inward)

Bruce Springsteen - Greetings from Asbury Park (in which he seems wonderfully unsure about whether he wants to be Bob Dylan or Van Morrison)

And then there's jazz. Glad to see Dexter Gordon appreciated in these pages. regards to all.

James


Posted on Tue Dec 18 13:00:48 CET 2001 from du-tele3-044.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.44)

Peter Viney

Just published: “ISIS – A Bob Dylan anthology” edited by Derek Barker (Helter Skelter Books, UK). I have the limited edition hardback which is sold out on pre-orders, but the paperback is published simultaneously. Go to http://www.skelter.demon.co.uk for info or phone +44 20 7836 1151. This book celebrates 100 issues of Isis magazine, and contains some important Band-related articles, such as Mickey Jones on the 1966 tour, Al Arowonowitz on the Isle of Wight festival and Woodstock, eyewitness accounts of the Albert Hall 66 concert, C.P. Lee on Hollywood Bowl … and lots more on Dylan.

The Mickey Jones interview has often been quoted (by me). I love the bit about Dylan playing ‘Just Like A Woman’ to Otis Redding as a perfect song for him – who intended to record it (but died before he did). I can visualize what it would have been like too.

Top 10s - I keep reading them and saying 'How did I forget to include that one?' Latest is Taj Mahal's 'The real Thing' … so many records, so little time.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 12:39:56 CET 2001 from 1cust52.tnt1.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.28.242.52)

rollie

Howard Tate(thanks Peter Stone Brown!)/Taj Mahal-The Real Thing/Paul Butterfields Better Days Band/The Best of Muddy Waters/4 CANADIENS and a HICK-Northern Lights,Southern Cross/Woodstock/BARRY GOLDBERG&MIKE BLOOMFIELD-TWO JEWS BLUES/Big Mama Thornton-Stronger than Dirt/John Lee Hooker -Endless Boogie/WOODY ALLEN-THE NIGHTCLUB YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted on Tue Dec 18 11:23:43 CET 2001 from i153-124.nv.iinet.net.au (203.59.153.124)

Nancy

From: same as last time

The top 10 list and John's desert isle scenario.........

I would give up 5 albums, go with a buddy for company, and take a chance on THEIR choice of 5 albums (choose your friends wisely if it means spending megatime listening to their music!!!)

MY five are:

Van Morrison - Avalon Sunset (or just as likely Moondance)

Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town

Aaron Neville - Warm Your heart

The Band - Rock Of Ages (is that allowed Pat?)

Jimmy Barnes - Soul Deeper

How come so many of you got away with naming SO many more than 10 anyway.......think no-one noticed, huh?


Posted on Tue Dec 18 10:31:22 CET 2001 from (194.100.60.131)

Kalervo

From: Land of elves

Oh..sad news..Big Country was my favorite, too. I am just writing an article with the title "Addiction and Unity" (I am not exactly sure if Unity is the correct word in English for belonging into the wholeness, the original Unity). Stuart didn' t make it, but there is a chance to break the vicious circle (for example NA, AA and quite new hope for artists with addiction problem MAP (I think it was MAP). Brown Eyed Girl' s (many thanks for the Christmas favorite list!!lovely music) own Louuu, Eric Clapton, John Hiatt, Bonnie Raitt and many others are examples that you can choose the road to recovery, too.

The list of ten best is impossible at least in fossil side (over ten years and more). So many lovely records as you have presented. Tim Buckley' s many records, John Coltrane, Van Dyke Parks, Charles Mingus, Caetano Veloso, Wigwam, the Clash, Pixies, Joe Ely, old Bob,Laura Nyro, Bruce Cockburn, Keola Beamer, Beach Boys etc, etc...ah impossible...

By the way you can watch Santa' s preparing for his long trip in www.santatelevision.com Now it is the time to be unshamedly uncritical and intuitive...let cleverness melt into nothingness....... Kalervo


Posted on Tue Dec 18 08:37:46 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp68409.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.185.28)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

CUPID: I am still feeling so sad about Stuart Adamson..Now do ya see why Robbie's People call alcohol...........Firewater?????......I HATE seeing and hearing what FIREWATER DOES TO PEOPLE.....Although I went on and on about his hair (influenced by Rod the Mod no doubt)......and I posted the wrong handle because I was so thrown off tonight.....It was BIG COUNTRY'S trademark BAGPIPE SOUND achieved through the use of the E-BOW.....SOCIALLY CONSCIOUS ARENA ANTHEMS....sometimes Hendrix antics with his guitar (playing guitar behind his head)....CELTIC INSPIRED ARRANGEMENTS....PUNK ENERGY....PASSIONATE SINGING AND GUITAR PLAYING....SKA JUMPS.....and BOYISH SMILE.....how I will remember STUART ADAMSON......

For those of you who get upset if posts aren't Band related.....Well......BIG COUNTRY SUPPORTED GREENPEACE.......THANKS TO SUSAN FOR THE LINK.....THANKS TO THE PAT BRENNAN FOR THE UNFORTUNATE NEWS AT THIS TIME OF YEAR....I say The Pat Brennan......Does he have power in this Guestbook or what?....;-D.....Even Rich whose musical knowledge I respect won't post a Greatest Hits List because of Pat's post......WOW.....I'm impressed Pat....But Rich I'm disappointed because I always thought of you as an independent thinker.....:-D....I think GREATEST HITS RECORDINGS are fine for someone who recognizes an artist's respected catalogue but isn't sure whether they want the whole retrospective of their work......Hence I buy just about everything by a musician or group who are my absolute fave.....but sometimes I buy GREATEST HITS recordings when I like their work but find it doesn't have enough depth for me to buy all of their work...............for instance in relation to MOTOWN..............Too much.....just as I'm about to post.......Stuart is now singing via my realjukebox right this very minute.........HE was one of my contemporaries.........


Posted on Tue Dec 18 07:59:15 CET 2001 from (24.69.255.202)

Cupid

Stuart Adamson was found hanged in Hawaii.He and Richard died for the same reason..they couldn't beat the bottle.Thanx to Brown Eyed Girl for bring his death to my attention, I was a huge fan of Big Country and The Skids and love Stuarts very unique guitar sound and his amazing lyrics...what a waste...Peace Cupid


Posted on Tue Dec 18 05:41:54 CET 2001 from spider-wk022.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.157)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

I knew it - my top ten changed today. Here it is =

The White Album

Rubber Soul

Revolver

Sgt.Pepper

Help!

Magical Mystery Tour - THE BEATLES

Plastic Ono Band - JOHN

McCartney - PAUL

All Things Must Pass - GEORGE

Goodnight Vienna - RINGO


Posted on Tue Dec 18 05:35:10 CET 2001 from spider-tp031.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.186)

h evans

From: alabama

Great topic! My top 10, in no particular order Beatles- Abbey Road/Revolver Poco- Crazy Eyes Who- Whos Next Dylan- New Morning/ Planet Waves/ Blood on the Tracks Derek and the Dominos- Layla The Band- The Band anything by Santana Neil Young- Zuma/Everybody Knows this is Nowhere/Tonight's the Night Flying Burrito Brothers- Gilded Palace of Sin/Burrito Deluxe Willie Nelson- Red Headed Stranger Dang, this is hard!


Posted on Tue Dec 18 05:03:37 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tj052.proxy.aol.com (64.12.106.42)

Tommy

From: Brooklyn

EXcluding The Beatles (for obvious reasons), my top ten are;

1)Tom Petty;Wildflowers

2)Derek And The Dominoes

3)The Band;The Band

4)Aqualung

5)The Police;Zenyatta Mondatta

6)Al Green'Let's Stay Together

7)Radiohead;The Bends

8)Rolling Stones;Sticky Fingers

9)Johnny Cash;Live From Folsom Prison

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Actually, that might not be the right list, but it's what came to mind at the time.Sorry.Making a list liek this kinda hurts my head..........


Posted on Tue Dec 18 03:39:25 CET 2001 from spider-wa071.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.51)

Rich

From: Rhinebeck, NY

Dennis, Thanks for the scoop on Joyous Lake - maybe the plan is for a Towne Crier-type place? I think Woodstock could handle that.

Top 10 - in no order:

Big Pink

The Brown Album

Blood on the Tracks

Layla

Graceland

Moondance

John Barleycorn

Brothers & Sisters

Beggar's Banquet

Abbey Road

hard to leave out: The Harder They Come, Tumbleweed Connection, Wild Innocent & the E St. Shuffle, Sail Away, Good Ole Boys, Workingman's Dead, Stop Making Sense, Tommy, Let It Bleed, 6 more by the Beatles, 8 more by Dylan, Closing Time and about a thousand others.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 03:21:47 CET 2001 from cr814537-a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (24.102.199.57)

Jerry Tenenbaum

From: Toronto

John- I forgot Graceland (Paul Simon): Chicago Transit Authority: Sound track from "Little Big Man" (vinyl only): Living In Clip - Ani DeFranco: Shriekback (the first album/music used for Michael Mann's movie "Manhunter"); Echoes - Tom Petty;


Posted on Tue Dec 18 03:20:00 CET 2001 from sdn-ar-002ilurbap287.dialsprint.net (158.252.112.217)

Susan

Web page

Big Country - I loved that whole album. All the songs told stories, with a timeless quality. Contemporary, but with historical resonance. I saw the band perform once, in a big, echoy gym on campus, all wood surfaces and cavernous spaces. It was not the best place for sound, but the group worked hard, and Stuart did this little hoppy dance that must have been very hard on the calf muscles, but he kept it up all the time he played.

There's a link to a story above.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 03:13:22 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk064.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.49)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Here's one... anybody up for a try?... let's pretend you are Santa... and you just got caught putting a CD under the tree of either Levon, Garth or Robbie... ok, or Dylan too... what CD would it be?... assuming you both sat down for a little listen and reaction while you polished off the milk and cookies... I myself would love to hear what Dylan thought of Garth's latest...


Posted on Tue Dec 18 02:55:15 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp70448.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.193.35)

amalatches

From: cabbagetown

PAT!!!! I looooooved IN A BIG COUNTRY.......by BIG COUNTRY........What happened to Stuart?????.....Please tell me more............Great guitar riff......I guessed ya noticed the ska riff, huh.....and the bass player was always steady.......Stuart......He was beautiful to listen to......and I admit it........He had the best hair in rock and roll.....When my hair used to be punky at that time....I had to really work at getting it to look like Stuart's......lol........I used to share a place with someone from Aberdeen, Scotland......home of Annie Lennox.......and he wasn't drawn to music at all.....BUT......He even knew BIG COUNTRY'S MUSIC!


Posted on Tue Dec 18 02:19:38 CET 2001 from (209.236.161.30)

michael Lenahan

From: Clinton,NJ

Hey Butch, Thank You for giving me the opportunity to talk to the Great Levon Helm. You guy's are the Best. I also agree that History was made that night. I am just sorry that G-Man missed such a GREAT SHOW. Also I would have like to have met John Cass. Mabey Next Time. Hope to see you all very soon. Mike Lenahan.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 01:56:03 CET 2001 from dialup-63.208.70.250.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.208.70.250)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Was there a better single from the early 80's than "In A Big Country"? RIP, Stuart Adamson.


Posted on Tue Dec 18 00:56:31 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-th042.proxy.aol.com (64.12.102.37)

Harry & Mim

From: Bucks County, PA, USA

Peter: OK, I give up. My previous comment was made in a fit of pique that had nothing to do with any of the fine folks who visit this site & enjoy The Bands' music: In no particular order, top ten songs, performances, etc. (just to make things shorter(?), more/less complicated): The Stanley Brothers - "Cash on the Barrelhead" "Angel Band" Bob Dylan - "Desolation Row" (Live 1966) Jerry Lee Lewis - "The Complete Palomino Club Recordings" Van Morrison - "Days Like These" (Steppin' on a Dream bootleg same approximate timeframe as "Nights in San Francisco") The Rolling Stones - "Midnight Rambler" (Get Your Leeds Lungs Out bootleg, (1971 British Tour) or their live covers of "Hound Dog", "Bye Bye Johnny", "Not Fade Away"), AND "Tumbing Dice" Allman Bros. Band - New York City Blues bootleg, 1970 or 1971 (approx.) Dr. John - "Goin' Back to New Orleans" (song & entire recording of 1987 (?) release AND "Right Place, Wrong Time" album (although that tune & "Such a Night" might pale in comparison to other great cuts on same) J.J. Cale - Naturally (entire) Frank Zappa & MOI - Cruisin' with Reuben & the Jets (entire) Flying Burrito Brothers - "Gilded Palace of Sin" (entire) Jeff Beck - Truth AND/OR Beck/Ola Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers (entire) Thelonius Monk & John Coltrane - Monk and Trane (entire) OR Art Blakey, Bobby Timmons performance of "Moanin'" (song) OR Coltrane Quartets' Africa Brass or Louis Armstrong Hot Five & Hot Sevens entire catalog(s) OR CLifford Brown, Pres, Dexter Gordon, Jimmy Smith, Lee Morgan, Cannonball Adderley, Buddy Bolden, et.cet.cet.c.et. Howlin' Wolf - Gold Collection OR Muddy Waters (The Real Folk Blues, Live at Newport, Hard Again, Muddy "Mississippi" Waters Live, etc. etc.), practically both men's entire catalogues, with great thanks to Willie Dixon and others) Lee Dorsey, Irma Thomas, Professor Longhair, most New Orleans blues or jazz music, from the end of the 19th century on---- Did I get to 10 yet? - I got a million of 'em Oh YEAH, can't forget The Kinks, The Kink Kronikles Felicities of the season to all, especially Butch Dener ("soul friend/ anam cara") and Jan Hoiberg........


Posted on Tue Dec 18 00:49:37 CET 2001 from hvc-24-164-173-109.hvc.rr.com (24.164.173.109)

Russman

From: Rosendale,NY

Hey gang - Yep, you guys missed a good one at Tribeca Blues in NYC - Butch forgot to mention... Professor Louie & The Crowmatix also rocked the house,...I happened upon them in the city,(Christmas shopping this weekend) They played a hot Restless Islands and Chest Fever with Garth providing the signature solo/riffs. Hot Tuna's Michael Falzarano is now from what I understand, a temporary member of the Crowmatix... Hot stuffs... Check em out later this month at the same venue. Christmas is gettin' close.. see ya - - - hot-hot-hot - Russell


Posted on Tue Dec 18 00:39:22 CET 2001 from dv139s69.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.69.139)

Dexy

All Things Must Pass; Stagefright; Don’t Cry Now (Rondstadt); The Beatles (White Album); New Morning; Rockin’ The Suburbs (new Ben Folds); Nashville Skyline; Rock of Ages; My Aim Is True; Revolver.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 23:57:19 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

I'm a little tired of the "desert island discs" top ten album concept as the Tower Records magazine has done it for years (though I agree with a lot more of the choices among this group). At this gifty season, though, I think that a top ten box set list might be interesting--especially since some are so well done and others really pedestrian. I'm off to work on that list if anyone wants to see it...


Posted on Mon Dec 17 22:42:10 CET 2001 from ppp119.ac1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.5.119)

Paul Godfrey

Top 10. John this is one heck of a challenge. Depends on what day and mood you are into. Anyway:

1.Last Waltz The Band

2. American Son Levon Helm

3. Rock of Ages The Band

4. Kingdom Come The Band

5. Best of Ronnie Hawkins & The Hawks

6. Live At The Apollo James Brown

7. Enlightenment Van Morrison

8. Islands The Band

9. Country & Western? Ray Charles

10. Across The Great Divide The Band

Seasons Greetings & Shine On!


Posted on Mon Dec 17 22:34:44 CET 2001 from st-catherines-ppp112384.sympatico.ca (216.209.140.13)

Richard

From: St Catharines

Oh, and 'Career Moves' by Loudon Wainwright III (live at the Bottom Line) is the funniest CD ever recorded... and a great holiday album ;-)


Posted on Mon Dec 17 22:28:56 CET 2001 from host-149.subnet-76.med.umich.edu (141.214.76.149)

Steve Knowlton

From: Ypsilanti

Just looking through the articles section, and I don't see a history of the Band in the 90's. I'm curious to find out the story of how they got back into the studio, and their demise. Is there one I'm missing?


Posted on Mon Dec 17 22:19:35 CET 2001 from 01-035.046.popsite.net (64.24.231.35)

Jenny T

From: Ohio

My top ten excluding Band albums and in no particular order would be:

The Housemartins--London 0 Hull 4

Bonnie Raitt--Give It Up

Neville Brothers--Yellow Moon

Donald Fagan--The Nightfly

Stevie Ray Vaughn--Couldn't Stand the Weather

Los Lobos--The Neighborhood

U2--The Joshua Tree

Peter Gabriel--So

Dire Straits--Communique

Dwight Yoakum--Guitars, Cadillacs, Etc. Etc.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 22:15:27 CET 2001 from st-catherines-ppp112384.sympatico.ca (216.209.140.13)

Richard

From: St Catharines

OK OK Pat, no greatest hits or various artist comps...

Steely Dan: Countdown to Ecstasy
Michael Hurley: Snockgrass
Bob Dylan: John Wesley Harding
Woody Guthrie: Dust Bowl Ballads
John Prine: Lost Dogs and Mixed Blessings
Bonnie Raitt: Give It Up
Joe Ely: Honky Tonk Masquerade
George Jones: Walls Can Fall
Neil Young: Ragged Glory
Van Morrison: Into the Music

Hey, they're all different from last time! Oops.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 21:51:41 CET 2001 from spider-te084.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.214)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa USA

I'm very anxious to hear Lucky Man Clark's new release, "Seaworthy", due out February 2, 2002. Levon, Garth, Garry Tallent, Jim Horn, Bobby Keys, among others. Check out "What's New" 12/3/01.

Top Ten in no particular order:

Rock of Ages-The Band
Exile on Main Street-The Rolling Stones
Late For The Sky-Jackson Browne
Too Late To Stop Now-Van Morrison
Waiting For Columbus-Little Feat
A Night in San Francisco-Van Morrison
Little Village-Little Village
Bring The Family-John Hiatt
Ooh La La-Faces
Truth-Jeff Beck

Pretty tough task to narrow the list to ten as I'm certain I could list another fifty or so without any drop off in personal preference. It has been a pleasure perusing all of the lists posted and will probably end up costing me an arm and a leg before it's all said and done!


Posted on Mon Dec 17 21:46:05 CET 2001 from hvc-24-164-174-169.hvc.rr.com (24.164.174.169)

Dennis

From: West Saugerties, NY

BTW, before someone jumps on me for the comment about the bootlegs soothing a cold winter's night, please let me stand near the front of the line requesting that our gang get paid for their efforts, but, as many witnesses will agree, it's a very complicated issue that isn't brought up much in this forum.

Butch, please excuse me, but let's take Levon's current crew as an example: The fans in Peoria want to see them play in their hometown. A local tavern owner agrees to book 'em in his 200 person legal-limit bar. How much can the Barnburners charge to get there (1000 miles away), bring their equipment, spend a couple nights in a motel or fly overnight, eat, and still make enough money to set aside a nest-egg to cover mortgage, electric, food, etc. until their next gig?

Hmmm, sounds like ticket prices would be prohibitive to drawing a sell-out. So the owner, in an effort to meet the performer's price (and so the performers can charge the owner a few bucks less), agrees to let 'em sell their t-shirts, but wants 33% of the gross sales.

So the $20 cap becomes $30. The fans are angry thinkin' the performer's ripping them off: you can get a John Deere cap anywhere for $15, what's the story?

The story is, this performing stuff, as many of you are aware, is a real tough row to hoe.

I wish I could send a couple of bucks somewhere for the pleasure those bootlegs bring on a cold winter's night...someone somewhere should be paid for the pleasure they bring.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 21:19:04 CET 2001 from hvc-24-164-174-169.hvc.rr.com (24.164.174.169)

Dennis

From: Freezing rain's all over West Saugerties, NY

Regarding the re-opening of Woodstock's Joyous Lake, there was a help-wanted advertisement in Friday, December 14th's Kingston Freeman. Sorry, Wanda burned it to start a fire last evening, but basically they were looking for restaraunt help: waiters, bartenders, sous chefs, etc.

Sounds like they'll be opening soon, but from the ad, it sounded more like an upscale eatery. Sous chefs at the Lake? My gosh how times have changed in the past 4-5 years!

Yes, to this old timer, it's become kind'a boring around here without Jorma at Uncle Willey's, NRBQ or The Band at the The Chance, Levon at the Club Getaway or the Lake, or Rick singin' and strummin' anywhere a crowd would grab a cold frosty 'n stand still!

Ah, but in spite of Mr. Robertson's take on it, there's always the bootlegs....

Stay warm, folks. Will advise when I see an opening date.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 20:46:38 CET 2001 from (4.20.68.20)

Rich

From: Rhinebeck, NY

Anyone know the latest on the re-opening of Joyous Lake? Would be nice to be able to stop in over the upcoming holidays if they'll be open then. Good memories of seeing Levon and the then new Barnburners there two years ago at this time.

If that's not going to happen, any other ideas about shows to see in the Ulster/Dutchess area coming up, other than what's posted in the concert section? Looks like Levon might be taking some time off from now till after the 1st - can't say that I blame him.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 20:09:35 CET 2001 from citrix1.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.5)

John Cass

From: VT

Top 10 albums

1. The Band: Rock of Ages Remasters

2. John Hammond: Live

3. Richie Havens: Live At Cellar Door

4. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young: 4 Way Street

5.Joe Cocker: Mad Dogs Englishmen

6. Harry Chapin: Greatest Stories Live

7.Van Morrison: Its Too Late To Stop Now

8.Taj Mahal: Evening of Acoustic Music

9. Junior Wells & Buddy Guy: Alone and Acoustic

10. James Taylor: Mud Slide Slim

Those are my favorites I didn't want to just add Band albums because I hold my Band albums in a class all there own. I do know I wanted to place the Barnburner's album as #1 and when it hopefully is released it will be. What a night Saturday at Trebecca Blues!!!!!!!!!!


Posted on Mon Dec 17 20:02:18 CET 2001 from 222.good.net (209.54.25.222)

MattK

I agree that compilations should be a no-no. It makes it too easy to lump an entire artist's output to one line item.

I'm a sucker for these things. In no particular order, and reflecting my mood as of this day/hour/minute/second:

1) Music from Big Pink - The Band
2) Doolittle - The Pixies
3) A Love Supreme - John Coltrane
4) Nefertiti - Miles Davis
5) Blues and Roots - Charles Mingus
6) Hard Again - Muddy Waters
7) Let's Hide Away & Dance Away - Freddie King
8) Little Criminals - Randy Newman
9) Sign of the Times - Prince
10) Discipline - King Crimson


Posted on Mon Dec 17 19:56:54 CET 2001 from spider-tr082.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.212)

franko

From: boston

I'll play:

Pink, Brown, and ROA

Past, Present, and Future - Al Stewart

Blonde on Blonde

Willis Alan Ramsey - Willis Alan Ramsey

Transcendental Blues - Steve Earle

I am Shelby Lynne - Shelby Lynne

Lucinda Williams (with bonus tracks) - Lucinda Williams

Crossing Muddy Waters - John Hiatt

It would be hard to leave behind Brothers and Sisters and Fillmore East, Born to Run and The Wild, The Innocent..., Times Like These, Live 66, and Al Stewart's Modern Times, but....

On the way to the Island I would make sure I heard, for the last time, Shannon Curfman's version of The Weight, Robbie's guitar playing on Sign Language, and John Hiatt's Hangin' Round Here.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 19:36:07 CET 2001 from pool-63.52.230.106.ipls.grid.net (63.52.230.106)

Bobby Jones

From: Columbus, Ohio

There is no way I could list just 10 - so how about what's in the cd player today. This was last nights music for our neighborhood holiday party

The Band - The Band (brown album)

Johnathan Edwards - Sunshine

Billy Joel - Piano Man

Carol King - Tapestry

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Deja Vu

Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde

Eagles - Greatest Hits

Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain

Sound of Music - Movie soundtrack - (nothin like the sound of a bunch of drunk 40 years singing Do-Re-Mi)

Les Misrables - Orignal Broadway Cast

Of course this replaces the usual sounds of disney coming our family cd player.

I have a question for those in the know. Is it worth the $100. for a tree with roots? I have the 5 cd set, is the sound that much better? Just wonderin.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 19:18:51 CET 2001 from sid33.revealed.net (208.23.178.176)

Mike

From: Iowa

Pat, I agree! Compilations are way too easy! I was under the impression that thsese 10 albums were just the listening preferences of this season. I'm getting the impression that these 10 are to be top 10 all time faves. If such is the case then ten wouldn't work for me. I'd have to do 20. Even more so, I'd have to pick a favorite album from each group I love. So, it's tough. But greatest hits albums make it too easy. And with "hits" albums, you often miss certian great "album" tracks that are better than the hits. Pick a favorite from each group I like would be a long list bordering on tedious. I do see that many have picked Derek and The Dominos' "Layla". Nice choice and I still say he's never topped that album. I guess I've rambled enough...Peace.

Mike


Posted on Mon Dec 17 18:33:28 CET 2001 from dialup-63.215.114.129.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.215.114.129)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

I call a bunch of re-do's as greatest hits albums should be off-limits.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 17:26:35 CET 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

It's tough to keep the list to 10, and it's even tougher to try visualising the record collection and the CD accumulation from here at work. But, in no special order:

"Big Pink" by the Band

"Aardvark" by Kensington Market

"12 Dreams" of Dr Sardonicus by Spirit

"Moondance" by Van Morrison

"Sail Away" by Randy Newman

"Let It Bleed" by the Stones

"Please Please Please" by James Brown

"Sweet And Dandy" by Toots and the Maytals

"Layla" by Derek and the Dominoes

"John Lennon" by John Lennon


Posted on Mon Dec 17 17:06:25 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

I sat for ten minutes and thought about my top ten list. Most of my choices have already been mentioned so I won't go into that, except to say that Tom Waits and Robert Johnson are the only artists that do anything for me now at this stage of my life and that Wait's song "Goin Out West" always reminded me of Robbie. My screen looks a little funny now, so as Tom says "as the german dwarf dances with the butcher's son...and tonight a little rain never hurt no one"...and so... "I will take the Marleybone Coach...and be whistlin' down the wind.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 16:22:14 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

I'm the guy the Islamic extremists warned you about. On judgment day, I'll be at the head of the long line of those who have succumbed to the worldly pleasures of music, waiting for Allah to ladle molten lead into my unrepentent ears. Until then, I'll continue to choose the soundtrack for my life.

Just as I was begining to prepare my list of essential music from 2001, John Donabie threw down the gauntlet to choose a Top Ten List of Alltime. With so much great music, then & now, my head's about to explode from all the choices at hand. Then I start thinking, will any of my picks from 2001 make the alltime list? Well, I've got plenty of work to do, so I'll get back to preparing my two lists this week.

John--As with anytime you listen or record music played from vinyl, you need some sort of phono preamp to amplify the signal from the turntable's cartridge. Unfortunately, since the majority of people no longer listen to LPs, most receivers & preamps manufactured nowadays, especially those for home theatre use, no longer include a built-in phono preamp. The least expensive way to solve this problem is to look around for a used, vintage receiver that has a decent phono section. Then all you need to do is figure out a way to run a line chord from the tape monitor out of the receiver into your computer's CD recorder inputs. The advantage of using a computer CD burner is that there's software available, designed for this purpose, that can be used to digitally "clean-up" the sound of LPs.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 15:45:33 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

ART USHERSON IS ALIVE!!!

I have been told for years and it has been fairly well known that Art died years ago. Well I just talked to a ghost. Art is alive and living in Georgia. What a shocker!! For years I have been told he gad passed away by a dear friend. Art is alive and well and doing well.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 15:15:55 CET 2001 from host-149.subnet-76.med.umich.edu (141.214.76.149)

Steve Knowlton

From: Ypsilanti

Back to an old thread... but instead of dissecting the issue ethically, here's an aesthetic judgement from this week's TV Guide: "JEERS to a holiday letdown. Now that we've finished decrying commercials in holiday traditions [referencing a previous slam of NBC promos during the Macy's Thanksgiving parade], we'll move on to traditions in holiday commericals. Recent Christmas seasons have been a tad brighter thanks to some gifted commercials from Gap stores. Not this year. Gap's latest present to TV advertising is a disappointing series of various singers performing Supertramp's "Give a Little Bit." Bad enough that the jingle ever so slightly exploits today's climate of charity. Worse, so many of the singers, from Robbie Robertson to Macy Gray, sound absolutely off-key. Maybe it's just an unfortunate mix of voices, or a song that doesn't merit so much repetition. Or maybe Gap should give a little bit more thought to creating something as memorable as it has in Christmases past."

Peter Viney: I'm not sure how you judge these things, but I'm pretty sure I have an original vinyl issue of "Big Pink." It's got the gatefold sleeve, the Capitol "rainbow" label, and is pressed on a very thick slab of vinyl - it weighs about a pound! I'd gladly trade it for your 2000 reissue :)


Posted on Mon Dec 17 15:09:53 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

ART USHERSON

I was shocked to see in What's New this morning, pictures by Art Usherson. Art took the photo of Bob Dylan (Tour 74)and friends that appeared on the front page of the Toronto Star; with yours truly sitting at the end of the table. Long hair and glasses. I guess what surprised me is that Art has been dead for many years and I have no idea who supplied the pictures or where they came from; but it sure is GREAT to see them again. A little trivia......Art was the first person ever to be married at the TOP of the CN Tower in Toronto; which was a pretty big deal in those days.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 14:15:38 CET 2001 from (209.236.161.23)

Michael Lenahan

From: Clinton NJ

Hey Levon, Garth And Prof. Louie thanks for putting on a GREAT show at Tribeca Blues. Jimmy Vivino, Little Sammy Davis, Tony Garnier, Michael Falzarano and the Great Crowmatix's were awesome. Keep The Blues Alive.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 10:48:46 CET 2001 from du-tele3-159.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.159)

Peter Viney

From: Stuck in the 70s With you

We have done this 3 or 4 times before at least, but for the sake of a dull Sunday afternoon, I’ll do it again. I’ve tried to simplify my task by allowing only one album per artist and disallowing various artist compilations.

1. The Band, ‘The Band’ 2. Bob Dylan, ‘Blonde on Blonde’ 3. The Beatles, ‘Sergeant Pepper’ (today).’ 4. Marvin Gaye, ‘What’s Going On’ (2 CD remaster) 5. Van Morrison, ‘Beautiful Vision.’ 6. The Wailers, ‘Catch A Fire’ (2 CD remaster) 7. Bernstein, ‘Ravel Piano Concerto in G’ 8. Link Wray, ‘Link Wray’ (1971) 9. The Beach Boys, ‘Surf’s Up.’ 10. Paul Simon ‘Graceland’

BUBBLING UNDER: Grateful Dead, ‘American Beauty’, Robbie Robertson ‘Storyville’, Weather Report ‘Heavy Weather’, The Four Seasons, Edition D’Oro, Otis Redding, ‘Otis Blue’, Hot Tuna, first album.



Posted on Mon Dec 17 07:10:23 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Ed Blayzor

From: NY

Sam here it goes:Beatles-1....Marley-Legend ...Poco-Forgotten Trail.... Hiatt- Best Of ....John Prine- Great Days..... G.Lightfoot- Gord`s Gold 1&2 ..... Marvin Gaye- Very Best Of .....America-History....James Taylor- Greatest Hits 1&2 .... CCR-Chronicles 1&2 ....mmmm maybe my wife is right about me being stuck in the 70`s. Peace


Posted on Mon Dec 17 06:44:40 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp68772.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.186.137)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

SPECIAL GREATEST HITS POST FOR: Richard, Cupid, Peter Viney, Bill Munson, Billy, AJR, Amanda, Pete Rivard......and the other closet LOUUUU REED FANS: If ya didn't have any Louuuu I would purchase LOUUU REED ROCK AND ROLL DIARY 1967-1980 as well as ROCK AND ROLL ANIMAL (Live)......;-DDDD


Posted on Mon Dec 17 06:33:25 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp68772.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.186.137)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

FAVOURITE GREATEST HITS

BOB MARLEY....Legend....For those of you who do not have any of the King of REGGAE's music to begin with....but better still is SONGS OF FREEDOM....you get all his "hits" plus alternate versions plus acoustic medley which is Bob at his most purest....:-D
THE BEST OF OTIS REDDING....Red Double Album....The Ultimate Otis Redding....one of the first Afro-American artists to perform to a mostly white audience at Monterey
STAPLE SINGERS....The Best Of The Staple Singers....this one on CD
BOB DYLAN....Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits....Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. 2....some songs on these recordings aren't found on other records like....POSITIVELY 4TH STREET
SAM COOKE....The Best Of Sam Cooke....so many artists have covered his work....love hearing Louuuuu Rawls on BRING IT ON HOME TO ME
Curtis Mayfield....The Very Best Of Curtis Mayfield....but....PEOPLE GET READY not found on this recording
VAN MORRISON....Bang Masters....two versions of BROWN EYED GIRL
ARETHA FRANKLIN....30 Greatest Hits....all her "hits" are here
MINK DEVILLE....Spanish Stroll 1977-1987....cool street latin music with an undeniable edge but Willy's romantic sensibility always prevails
THE CLASH....The Singles....the beginning of SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO is worth the purchase alone
AL GREEN....Greatest Hits....Mr. Soul himself at his best
DIANA ROSS AND THE SUPREMES....Anthology....music I grew up with
SLY AND THE FAMILY STONE....Greatest Hits....he'll take you higher and higher....one of the first American bands to have mixed cultures and mixed genders in band
GLADYS KNIGHT AND THE PIPS....Anthology....actually saw them perform for 7.00
HARRY BELAFONTE....Pure Gold....his original Day-O (Banana Boat Song) and my song here
TEMPTATIONS....The Temptations And The Million-Sellers....Ain't Too Proud To BEG....btw....my name here is Brown Eyed Girl....not BEG....PLEASE....:-DD
THE FOUR TOPS....Greatest Hits....yup! I definitely grew up with MOTOWN
TOOTS AND THE MAYTALS....Time Tough The Anthology....Reggae with Soul
THIRD WORLD....Reggae Ambassadors 20th Anniversary Collection

Although I have been told that posting lists in The Band Guestbook is soooooo tedious......at least more people stop lurking and get involved.......;-D....Well back to wrapping Holiday gifts for my students................


Posted on Mon Dec 17 05:50:53 CET 2001 from 1cust67.tnt1.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.28.242.67)

rollie

Curtis Mayfield-Live at the Bitterend Orleans-Orleans Muddy Waters Woodstock Album The Band Bonnie Raitt-Takin My Time Elton John-Tumbleweed Connection Allman Brothers Live at Fillmore East Edgar Winter and the White Trash-Roadwork The Paul Butterfield Blues Band -Live Rollie Newsom and the Bo Hog Grind Band-Behind the potato curtain(yet to be released)


Posted on Mon Dec 17 05:39:51 CET 2001 from spider-ta011.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.46)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Allright - trying to come up with "the" top ten picks is very difficult. So I'll just pop off ten quick - but like Dave Hopkins said, it could change tomorrow. In no order =

Cosmos Factory - CCR

Let It Bleed - ROLLING STONES

Desareli Gears -CREAM

The Londaon Howlin' Wolf Sessions - HOWLIN' WOLF & FRIENDS

The Kids Are Allright - THE WHO

Stagefright - The Band

Before The Flood - (The Band Stuff)

Let It Be - THE BEATLES

Layla... - ERIC AND THE DOMINOS

Abbey Road -THE BEATLES

Beautiful Noise - NEIL DIAMOND

There - I did it - and I already want to change it. I added that 11th one just for laughs.

How about a list of ten esstential "Greatest Hits" collections?


Posted on Mon Dec 17 05:36:25 CET 2001 from spider-we032.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.32)

Calvin

One thing I noticed is the number of Non-Band related albums that showed up numerous times throughout the lists. But then I suppose that is to be expectated, on some level we all have similiar tastes do we not. Ignoring the RCO ALl-Stars & Northern Lights SOuthern Cross It rocks/ it sucks string of course. I had a happy though while reading everyone's lists though, there were a few albums I was unfamiliar with, and there in lies my answers for "whatta want for Christmas."


Posted on Mon Dec 17 05:13:39 CET 2001 from pppa22-resalepoughkeepsie1-4r7146.dialinx.net (4.54.37.115)

crow

Web page

1. Full Moon (Full Moon)

2. Paradise & Lunch (Ry Cooder)

3. Moaning in the Moonlight (Howling Wolf)

4. Rock of Ages (The Band)

5. Rubber Soul (Beatles)

6. Paint by Number (3)

7. Soul Men (Sam & Dave)

8. Me & Bessie (Linda Hopkins)

9. Second Winter (Johnny Winter)

10. Cabbage Alley (Meters)

These are in no particular order and are subject to change without notice


Posted on Mon Dec 17 05:00:12 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tc023.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.158)

Harry

From: Far away from here

Peter - A Top 10 List???? It is both frightening and heartening to see what Band fans listen to when they are not spinning The Band... A Top 10 List???? Yrs., HWB


Posted on Mon Dec 17 04:26:30 CET 2001 from dialup-65.56.135.74.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (65.56.135.74)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

No order. Layla-D & the D's; Black Market-Weather Report; Last Stand at the Village Vanguard-Bill Evans; Bernstein Conducts Copland (w. Appalachian Spring); Sowing The Seeds of Love-Tears For Fears; Apples and Oranges-XTC; Groovin'-Rascals; Blood On The Tapes-BD; Brown Album-Band. What's Goin On-Marvin Gaye. Next 5: Feats Don't Fail Me Now-Little Feat; Astral Weeks-VM; Palladium '76 (The Real Last Waltz)-Band; Piece de Resistance-Bruce; Real Basement Tapes.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 04:18:57 CET 2001 from spider-ti052.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.197)

Rick S.

From: Suffern, N.Y.

John D., here goes: 1) Beatles- "Abbey Road" 2) The Band- The Brown Album 3) Paul Simon- "Graceland" 4) Janis Joplin- "Pearl" 5) Jimi Hendrix- "Electric Ladyland" 6) Stevie Wonder- "Songs In The Key of Life" 7) Grateful Dead- "Workingman's Dead" 8) Crosby, Stills and Nash 9) Dylan- "Love And Theft" 10)Allman Bros.- "Live At The Fillmore East"


Posted on Mon Dec 17 03:45:40 CET 2001 from spider-tk021.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.181)

Bumbles

From: Top of the Pops

(!) Spirit in the Dark, Aretha Franklin
(2) Radio City, Big Star
(3) The 2 Sides of Sam Cooke
(4) Blonde on Blonde, Bob Dylan
(5) Fear & Whiskey, Mekons
(6) Love Wars, Womack & Womack
(7) Reunion: Live at Madison Square Garden 1972, Dion & the Belmonts
(8) Something Else by the Kinks
(9) Brain Capers, Mott the Hoople
(10) Greatest Hits, Lovin' Spoonful (2000 CD, 26 tracks)


Posted on Mon Dec 17 03:28:07 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

I never realized how tough it was to come up with 10. Maybe it's impossible; but thanks all for your participation. I was just really interested what people were into other than The Band and Dylan. Some real interesting artists here. Just as an afterthought......I wrote down "The Staple Singers Freedom Highway." A Cd with this title exsists with about two or three tracks from the album I am talking about; which was recorded live at a church in Chicago on the Epic label. I go to the Sony site every once in awhile where you can request albums to be released on CD. I always mention this one; but have to bring up the point they have already released one with the same name. Don't think it's going to happen. Going to have to have someone teach me how to burn my vinyl on to CD. I think you need an amp between the turntable and the computer. Any experts out there. Mr. Powell?


Posted on Mon Dec 17 02:22:36 CET 2001 from 1cust155.tnt5.rochester.ny.da.uu.net (63.15.102.155)

Yaya

From: Here there and every where

Patti Smith- Horses

The Band -To Kigndom Come (is that cheating ?)

Frank Sinatra & Count Basie - It Might as Well be Swing ( I know you all think Im whacked :)

Neil Young- Harvest

Allman Brothers- Brothers and Sisters

Joni Mitchell- Miles of Aisles

Ry Cooder- Paradise and Lunch

Jimi Hendrix- Electric Lady Land

Beach Boys- Pet Sounds...

and one for: 'The Chritmas Music- LP List' - -Phil Spector's Christmas Album ( its on my turntable [ yes; I have one, old- but functional] as we speak!) MAY i PLEASE HAVE 10 MORE ??? Merry Christmas to Jan and all who make this site the best reading around..love ya'ss ALL - PLaY ON ! XXXX see you soon, L


Posted on Mon Dec 17 01:25:34 CET 2001 from spider-te082.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.212)

DZ

From: Chaska, MN

See catagorization sucks... anyway, I'm changing my 10... in goes Buffalo Springfield double LP, DFA 2, Kind of Blue and out goes REM, Sarah and Crows... but how can I turn my back on Storyville, John Barleycorn or Beautiful Vision?... and I too found Strange Weather to be a real gem... Levon does some great drumming on one track too...


Posted on Mon Dec 17 01:21:15 CET 2001 from akcf1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.202)

Rod

From: NZ
Web page

some albums that I played to death when I first heard them,analyzed every note and now only listen to occasionally:

The Band, The Last Waltz, Robbie Robertson, Jericho, Making Movies - Dire Straits, The Best of Louis Jordan, Before The Flood, Muddy Waters Woodstock Album, Seatrain - Seatrain,Ry Cooder - Ry Cooder


Posted on Mon Dec 17 00:57:21 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ti042.proxy.aol.com (64.12.101.167)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Hmmm Top 10 albums (subject to change when the topic comes up again!) In no particular order: The Band (Brown Album) Rock of Ages Bruce Springsteen and the E St. Band Born To Run Steely Dan : Aja Dylan: Blonde On Blonde & Hwy 61 & Love & Theft Abbey Road Beach Boys: Pet Sounds Yes, no Tull. I love them overall but have no particular fav album by them so I can't pick one for my top ten list: Oh, on Christmas song lists, you gotta go with Elvis' version of Merry Christmas Baby. It is RAUNCHY! Peter Viney: Please come out of your room! I was just kidding!


Posted on Mon Dec 17 00:53:51 CET 2001 from svcr-adsl-216-37-220-133.epix.net (216.37.220.133)

Kevin Gilbertson

From: NE PA

In no particular order:

Wilco - Being There

The Band - Rock of Ages

Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on A Gravel Road

John Hiatt - Crossing Muddy Waters

Dylan / Hawks - Live 1966 (I actually prefer Guitars Kissing...)

Dylan - Blook on the Tracks

Gram Parsons - Grevious Angel

Neil Young - Harvest

David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust & The Spiders from Mars

The Band - The Band (the brown album)


Posted on Mon Dec 17 00:44:07 CET 2001 from grmn-189ppp245.dialup.valstar.net (216.37.189.245)

Lil Again

hmm.... but then there's Jubilation...and several Jimmy Buffet albums...and anything by Ray Charles....and the Counting Crows...not to mention Steely Dan and Gordon Lightfoot....

If I'm extra good, do you think Santa would bring me more than 10? :-)


Posted on Mon Dec 17 00:36:04 CET 2001 from cr814537-a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (24.102.199.57)

Jerry Tenenbaum

From: Toronto

John Honorable mention; -anything by The Headstones -Travelling Wilburys -Odelay - Beck -Two Against Nature - Steely Dan -The White Album - Beatles -Tonight's The Night - Neil Young -Planet Waves -Bob Dylan -The First 2 GNR albums -Local Hero soundtrack - Mark Knopfler I could go on... but enough already.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 00:34:42 CET 2001 from grmn-189ppp245.dialup.valstar.net (216.37.189.245)

Diamond Lil

John D.. wow this is difficult! Only 10, hm? Ok.. here goes.. in no particular order...
DFA: Ridin on the blinds
Edgar Winter: White Trash
Billy Joel: Turnstiles
The Band: Stage Fright
Sinatra: Anthology
Rick Danko: Times Like These
Carole King: Tapestry
Neil Young: Decade
Traffic: Mr. Fantasy
Jon Secada: His first (self titled).

Have a good night everyone.


Posted on Mon Dec 17 00:16:46 CET 2001 from sdn-ar-002ilurbap089.dialsprint.net (158.252.113.177)

Bill - Resident Guitar Player

From: Susan's house

These are Susan's typing fingers, and my address so as to not expose another to spam, but the choices are his.

Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run

Grateful Dead - Europe 72

Allman Bros - Live at the Fillmore East

Derek and the Dominos - Layla

Santana - Caravanserai

Graham Parker - Another Grey Area

Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner Mounting Flame

Black Crowes - Shake Your Money Maker

Midnight Oil - Diesel and Dust

Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced

Bill Hill - Free Advice


Posted on Mon Dec 17 00:14:32 CET 2001 from sqd40.nirai.ne.jp (202.239.129.43)

Fred

From: An island where there is no snow

Top 10 for Christmas (in no particular order):

Music From Big Pink (reissue)

Northern Lights Southern Cross (reissue)

Quadrophenia - The Who

Automobili - Lucio Dalla

Dancin' the Blues - Taj Mahal

After Midnight- Nat King Cole

The Cars- the Cars

Gordon - Barenaked Ladies

All The Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes - Pete Townshend

Blues for The Lost Days - John Mayall

My apologies for all those other albums/CDs I left off this list...If I rewrote this in a few minutes the list would be different.

All this talk about rock stars/musicians reminds me of the line Peter O'Toole uttered in My Favourite Year: I am not an actor, I AM a movie star (I may be paraphrasing a bit..the mind isn't as sharp like it used to be)

Browned-Eyed Girl: whereabout in Europe do your people come from?


Posted on Sun Dec 16 23:10:01 CET 2001 from ip-209-23-2-163.modem.logical.net (209.23.2.163)

john

From: new yawk

TOP TEN:

1)The Band-Music From Big Pink

2)Dylan-John Wesley Harding

3)The Beatles-Sgt. Pepper

4)Jimi Hendrix-Electric Layland

5)The Band

6)The Band-Northern Lights Southern Cross

7)Bob Dylan-Blonde On Blonde

8)George Harrison-All Things Must Pass

9)The Beatles-White Album

10 tie)Bob Dylan-Blood on the Tracks and Love and Theft

Honorable Mentions:Stage Fright, Rock of Ages, Time out of Mind, Highway 61 Revisited


Posted on Sun Dec 16 22:58:52 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

Wellm, I started the thread and I realized just how difficult this was. Should have made it top 40. Well here goes.

The Band
The Band
Capitol

Bob Dylan
Blonde On Blonde
Columbia

Bob Dylan
Blood On The Tracks
Columbia

Mississippi John Hurt
Legend
Rounder

Ry Cooder
Paradise & Lunch
Reprise

Ronnie Hawkins & The Hawks
Roulette Years(2 Cd Set)
Sequel

Crescent City Soul
Sound of New Orleans(4 CD set)
Capitol

Staple Singers
Freedom Highway (NOT CD version, The TRUE Vinyl version. Best Gospel album I have ever heard)
Epic

Hoagy Carmichael Sings Hoagy Carmichael
S/T (British Vinyl Only)
MCA Coral Rainbow Series

Beatles
Beatlemania (1st LP In Canada)
Capitol

Man this was hard. I feel I've left out some essentials; but I set the rules so........


Posted on Sun Dec 16 22:54:12 CET 2001 from spider-ti072.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.207)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

1. Lanois Wynona... my own bro LA tuned me on to Emmylou's CD...
2. Crow's August... 1st listen with wife on long weekend trip to friend's wedding... good memories...
3. REM Document... wife's fav... notice a family focus yet...
4. Sarah M's Fumbling... gotta have a woman's voice... my wife loves the Chocolate song... Fleetwood Mac a close 2nd...
5. Music for NA... we sing kids to sleep with Cherokee Morning Song... my Mom always loved Rita... and its got crickets...
6. Little Wolf's Dream Song... more crickets, coyote music, Laura S's voice... the 2nd one is just as good too...
7. Gord's Gold... just for me... camping buddies get together for his and Arlo's shows... always comes to Mpls...
8. ROA... pic twins dancing in basement to Don't Do It... maybe we paint too...
9. Contact... call me a Robbie lover anyday... Free Leonard!!! God Bless America!!!
10. Garth's Sea... Best damn CD in 2001...

I hated to leave off more jazz, Disney and Gerswin... but that's today's habits...


Posted on Sun Dec 16 22:44:02 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

From: HTML
Web page

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Posted on Sun Dec 16 22:38:10 CET 2001 from webcacheh05a.cache.pol.co.uk (195.92.67.69)

jay

From: Boston England

I HAVE ONLY EVER SEEN THE LAST WALTZ, MY SECOND FAV CONCERT BEHIND LED ZEPLINS THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME. DONT FORGET IT WAS MY FIRST EVER TASTE OF THE BAND, SO THATS A PRETTY HIGH RATING........WAYHEYYYYYYYYYY I LIKE. WHAT DO I LOOK FOR NEXT??


Posted on Sun Dec 16 22:33:38 CET 2001 from as3-1-103.hip.berkeley.edu (136.152.194.25)

Dave Hopkins

From: Berkeley, CA

Here's today's list...tomorrow could be completely different. In no order:

The Band - The Band
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
Neil Young - Harvest Moon
Paul Simon - Graceland
Counting Crows - August and Everything After
Tori Amos - Under the Pink
The Beatles - Abbey Road
R.E.M. - Automatic for the People
Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue

Honorable mention:
The Band - Rock of Ages, Music from Big Pink
Sleater-Kinney - All Hands on the Bad One
Pearl Jam - Ten
The Jayhawks - Hollywood Town Hall
Joni Mitchell - Blue, Hejira
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Neil Young - After the Gold Rush, Sleeps with Angels
Michelle Shocked - Arkansas Traveler
Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks, The Basement Tapes
Fairport Convention - Unhalfbricking
P J Harvey - To Bring You My Love
Billy Bragg & Wilco - Mermaid Avenue
Van Morrison - Moondance, Saint Dominic's Preview
Son Volt - Trace

...and I could go on...


Posted on Sun Dec 16 22:32:08 CET 2001 from sdn-ar-001ilurbap252.dialsprint.net (158.252.112.142)

Susan

From: CU

The resident guitar player reminds me that it's Paul Winter, not Paul Horn, and I should not forget my Springsteen period round the time of Born To Run and The River.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 22:25:22 CET 2001 from cr814537-a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (24.102.199.57)

Jerry Tenenbaum

From: Toronto

John D. ( I can't just do 10... My top 20 (This is not easy!) I have made my choices based upon music which has had a major impact on me. I come back to these all the time and play them again and again. 1. Blonde on Blonde - Bob Dylan 2. Music From Big Pink - Band 3. Aja - Steely Dan 4. Live 1966 - Bob Dylan with Levon & the Hawks 5. All Things Must Pass - George Harrison 6. Rolling Stones - Beggar's Banquet 7. I Can Tell - John Hammond Jr. 8. Blood on The Tracks - Bob Dylan 9. Electric Ladyland - Jimi Hendrix 10.On The Beach - Neil Young 11.Nebraska - Bruce Springsteen 12."I'll be down to get you in a taxi honey.." - The Band 13.Mutations - Beck 14.Exile On Main Street - Rolling Stones 15.Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan 16.August and Everything After - Counting Crows 17.Led Zeppelin (1st album) - Led Zeppelin 18.Dire Straits (1st album) - Dire Straits 19.Love and Theft - Bob Dylan 20.Deja Vu - CSNY


Posted on Sun Dec 16 22:25:33 CET 2001 from 175.hartford-10rh15rt.ct.dial-access.att.net (12.90.178.175)

Tuna

From: NY
Web page

Come visit our little freak forum for related topics!!!


Posted on Sun Dec 16 21:47:53 CET 2001 from sdn-ar-001ilurbap116.dialsprint.net (158.252.113.76)

Susan

From: CU

Top ten of ALL time? To tell you that I'd have to make a long tour through my musical history, beginning with what I'm sure was torture for my parents - a passion for a song called "Shrimp Boats Are A'Comin", a single on heavy yellow vinyl that I played incessently. We'd pass through the dark shamanism of the Doors and later Mike Scott, linger with Janis Joplin and Linda Ronstadt (I'd like to have heard a duet with Linda and Richard; I think they have the same kind of thick, controlled voices that carry a sense of power to spare); spend time with Fairport Convention and their spin-offs, and Clannad and June Tabor; experiment with some of those great Odyssey classical releases in the late 60s; Music for the Baroque Oboe and the Alfred Deller Consort singing English madrigals. Joy of Cooking and Terry Garthwaite would have to be visited,as would Rickie Lee Jones, and Sibelius and Walter Gieseking playing Debussy.

But that was then; I can't tell you what my favorits of all time are, but I can list what I find in my cd case most often just now.

The remastered Music from Big Pink

Live 66 disk 2, with the Hawks

Rock of Ages

Love and Theft

Kevin Doherty - Strange Weather This is a new discovery that I really like.

Paul Horn - Tomorrow Is My Dancing Day I play this every year around this time. It's not Christmas music, but it is just what I want at the dark season and the turning of the year.

Van Morrison - The Healing Game. Van is a constant in my musical meandering. I've followed him from the early days.

Storyville.

Bobby Charles Another fairly new discovery.

Return of the Grievous Angel


Posted on Sun Dec 16 21:16:45 CET 2001 from spider-wb061.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.176)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

The Beatles wore all leather back in 1960 - I guess they were ahead of their time even then.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 20:53:33 CET 2001 from dialup-368.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.112)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

I just heard the John Hammond/Tom Waits album....WOW! ......It's rockin'!!!.........I'd love to hear The Barnburners backing up Tom Waits or John Hammond at a gig..........

I would write more now but I must away to a gig........


Posted on Sun Dec 16 20:47:35 CET 2001 from spider-we074.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.54)

JohnG

From: Long Beach N.Y.

I'm amazed that no one has placed any Ry Cooder on their top 10 lists....Bop Till You Drop...is one I've worn out on vinyl and tape. Thank goodness for CD's. And what about that Little Village album ,,, Somehow I feel a connection between Cooder and The Band..maybe it's just me....a Top Ten is almost an impossible task I believe. Anyway I hope everybody has a great Holiday. John


Posted on Sun Dec 16 20:00:54 CET 2001 from spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.71)

Nick

From: Virginia

Mike from Iowa,...Here! Here!! Ben Pike you ought to be ashamed of yourself coming up with slop like that. Even if you were right, which your not, that was tactless.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 19:55:48 CET 2001 from wwwcache.lanl.gov (128.165.156.80)

Kay

From: New Mexico

Butch, I am jealous. Sounds like Tribeca Blues was the place to be in NYC last night.

A memory about Richard Manuel and the fashion evolution of leather pants:The first person I ever saw in tight black leather pants was Richard in 1970. He was so thin, he looked like a million bucks in them. But I never saw him wear them onstage.. . I think only Jim Morrison and Eric Burdon were doing that. K


Posted on Sun Dec 16 19:16:28 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta022.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.27)

chris

From: ct

top ten albums so hard to do but here's a few of mine 1. the entire recorded output of the Beatles 2. Music From Big Pink 3. Bob Dylan "Love and Theft" 4. Rebecca Martin "Thoroughfare" www.rebeccamarin.com awesome vocalist a spiritual listening experience folkjazzrock but very original high quality music 5. Rock of Ages 6. Duke Ellington "Such Sweet Thunder" 7. Ronnie Lane "Anymore for Anymore" Though you cant go wrong wth anything by him! 8. The Faces "Long Player" 9. Once Blue "Once Blue"...more rebecca martin 10.. cant we just make this like a top 1000 list!!?


Posted on Sun Dec 16 19:10:37 CET 2001 from st-catherines-ppp126525.sympatico.ca (209.226.233.184)

Richard

From: St Catharines

I'll take you up on that thread John D. Of course this probably reflects the mood I'm in now more than being a totally objective top 10 : ). But here goes...

Laurie Anderson: United States
Brian Eno/John Hassell: Fourth World Volume One
Bob Dylan/The Band: Before the Flood
Blondie: Parallel Lines
Talking Heads: Remain in Light
Lou Reed: Ecstasy
Steely Dan: Citizen Dan
Holy Modal Rounders: I Make A Wish For A Potato
Thelonious Monk: Misterioso
Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music

Cheers folks!


Posted on Sun Dec 16 19:10:43 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tj054.proxy.aol.com (64.12.106.44)

butch

From: blissville near bluesville

Last Night, in New York City,,, one of the BEST nights, musically, i have ever had !!!!!!!

Levon, Pat & Chris (from the barn burners)TONY GARNIER ( bob dylans band)on acoustic bass,JIMMY VIVINO, ( conan o'brien band )GARTH HUDSON, Little Sammy Davis, just burned up the joint !!!!! starting out with a tribute to the passing of Rufus Thomas to a James Brown tune led by Lil Sammy,,,with Muddy, Wolf, Barn Burner originals, Vivino originals & chris' tribute to his fellow marines,, "Terrified & Lonesome",, brought the house down,,

Garth was his usual wizard-like self on the multiple keyboards& even took out the english horn & jammed ( a la Sting) with Tony G's bass,,, just so memorable

EVERYONE was smilin from start to finish, & played to beat the band,,,,,LOL,,,,,Tony had huge blisters on his hands,, & laughingly said that the blues was harder work than playin for bob,,,

those of us that were there, Big John Cass, & some other very astute folks,,, we know what we saw,,,,, HISTORY !!!

,,,& some of the greatest blues & R&R anywhere,,,

when jimmy vivino led the band with his & Levon's blues arrangement of STRAWBERRY WINE,,,, there were lots of happy folks,,,

shoulda, coulda, woulda been there,, never to be forgotten,,,,,,


Posted on Sun Dec 16 18:50:37 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

Video visit with Robbie Robertson.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 18:18:08 CET 2001 from notebk1.wdse.org (131.212.19.70)

Marsen

From: Minnesota

Hi to all! Longtime visitor, but I've only posted a few times. Saw the thread on top 10 favorites, and had to add mine. This was hard! 1. The Brown Album 2. Big Pink 3. Before the Flood 4. Rock of ages 5. Jubilation 6. Gordon Lightfoot- "Summertime Dream" 7. Dylan- "Another side of Bob Dylan" 8. Grateful Dead- "American Beauty" 9. Van Morrison- "His Band and The Street Choir" 10. Rusted Root- "When I Woke"


Posted on Sun Dec 16 17:56:05 CET 2001 from spider-te063.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.203)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

I try to look past the leather pants and other images, and look at the music. It's not always easy. I hated Led Zep when I was a kid because of the assholes that walked around school who were Zep fans. The same with the Greatful Dead. I thought you had to be a major druggie (some will say that IS true) to listen to them. It was only when I started to play music myself that I started to listen to THE MUSIC. I realized things like - Jimmy Page, though kind of sloppy on the guitar sometimes, was great at constructing a tune, and doing very interesting timing things in songs....ANYWAY, good music is good music. David Bowie is good whatever color his hair is. There was a great musician back in the late 60's who even put himself in a bag to show that you should "listen" rather than judge by looks. Who was that again? mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I can't imagine a hard-ass like Levon being coerced into hammering RR in an interview. Levon says what he wants - when he wants. I think that's one of his charms, whether I like what he says or not.

IT'S OK TO CALL A CD AN "ALBUM". An album refers to a collection of something. A "record" album - a "photo" album. etc... It just dosen't work for me saying, "The Beatle White CD".

I'll post my all time top ten later (I know you can't wait). It's not an easy list to choose - too much good stuff.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 17:55:03 CET 2001 from 1cust78.tnt1.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.28.242.78)

jeffrey

BEG- How could you possibly leave out Charles Brown,"Merry Christmas Baby"?or "Wrap yourself in a Christmas Package"? Tsk,Tsk!


Posted on Sun Dec 16 17:53:14 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

I can't believe I forgot to add one of my absolute favorites to the list...

Girl At Her Volcano....Rickie Lee Jones

I guess that makes it my Top 11.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 17:44:58 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp68391.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.185.10)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

KALERVOOOOOO: Since you go crazy crazy over anything and everything Christmas.........Here are some of my favoUrite (ya know us Canadians) holiday tunes just for YOU......

Christmas Must Be Tonight....Robbie Robertson....Rick Danko
White Christmas....Otis Redding
Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy....Bing Crosby and David Bowie
Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas....Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra
White Christmas (reggae vibe)....Boney M
Santa Claus Is Coming To Town....Bruuuuuuce Springsteen
Merry Christmas Baby....B.B. King
Feliz Navidad....Jose Feliciano
Christmas In Prison....John Prine
Santa Claus Goes Straight To The Ghetto....James Brown
The Christmas Song....Toni Braxton
SOMEDAY AT CHRISTMAS....Stevie Wonder....SOMEDAY AT CHRISTMAS MEN WON'T BE BOYZZZZ.....PLAYING WITH BOMBS LIKE KIDS PLAYING WITH TOYZZZZ..............

Listen!
Golden ANGEL Voices
Ring Out Tidings
Of JOY And PEACE And FRIEDSHIP To YOU And BAND FANS!
They Sing
Merry! Merry! Merry!
MAY ALL YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!


Posted on Sun Dec 16 17:39:00 CET 2001 from zorg131.revealed.net (208.243.237.131)

Mike

From: Iowa

Oops, accidentally type din the OLD adress last time. Sorry!

Top 10? Let's see...In no particular order...

Buffalo Sprinfield Again, Deep Purple "Come Hell or High Water" (expanded edition), The Byrds "Younger Than Yesterday", Rick Danko (self-titled). Thanks to Tommy for the Rick solo cd! Genesis "A Trick Of The Tail". Siegel Schwall "Sleepy Hollow", The Beach Boys "Sunflower" and NOT their Christmas album, eventhough it is good! The Band Rock Of Ages...a better live album? The Doors LA Woman...and Billy Joel Greates Hits 1 and 2...Odd mix but I'm emjoying them this year...

Speaking of Deep Purple, I noticed yesterday that their 1993 cd "The Battle Rages On" was recorded at Bearsville. As big of a fanatic of Purple as I am, I should have known that. So, there's a roundabout Purple/Band connection. Ok enough from me...

Mike


Posted on Sun Dec 16 17:23:47 CET 2001 from zorg131.revealed.net (208.243.237.131)

Mike

From: Iowa

Ben Pike: Yes, Rick was overweight and with that came high blood pressure. And as for heroin, using or not, it didn't contribute to his death. He didn't die of an overdose. I certainly hope you're not implying that he did. If you are, it's cruel, cold-hearted and wrong. It's sad that Rick is no longer among us. But the music he made during his time is no doubt a reminder of is spirit and the great person and musician he was. Sadly, I never got to see him perform or meet him. But when I hear him sing or see him in The Last Waltz, he comes across as someone you feel as if you've known all along. At least he does for me. I just don't like to see people getting slammed when they can't defend themselves Ben. Rick lived and died simply. He was a musician who KNEW how to connect with others. And he never got caught up in being a rock star. He was a musician. There ought to be more like him. Sadly, there aren't! Like Richard, too soon gone! I certainly don't blame Robbie either. Sadly, Levon does. An issue that he needs to resolve. it's not detrimental to his health is it? probably not. Levon, let go! Life is short. /n Sorry but I don't usually post unless I have something to say. Still looking forward to the DVD and cd of The Last Waltz...should be great! Peace. /n Mike


Posted on Sun Dec 16 17:18:49 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Top 10...this was hard!

Blood On The Tracks

Buddy Guy And Junior Wells Play The Blues

Cahoots

Levon Helm And The RCO All-Stars

Planet Waves

Tennessee Jive 1945-1955, Bear Family Box Set Various Artists Note: My uncle, Tommy "Butterball" Paige, has three songs on this set. He was the lead guitarist for Ernest Tubb and The Texas Troubadours until 1949.

Texas Cookin'... Guy Clark... My sweet husband turned me on to this album.

Texas Flood... Stevie Ray Vaughan

The Brown Album

Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3


Posted on Sun Dec 16 16:04:35 CET 2001 from london-hse-ppp3547279.sympatico.ca (65.93.31.178)

Just Wonderin'

From: SW Ontario

Top ten here goes:

Robbie Robertson Music for Native Americans

Danko, Fjeld and Anderson

Largo various artists including members of the Band

Soundtrack to Color of Money

Soundtrack to Brother Oh Where Art Thou

Jimmy Hollywood

Etta James Greatest Hits

Roy Buchanan That's What I'm Here For

The Band Big Pink

Bob Dylan Planet Waves

Robbie Robertson Storyville


Posted on Sun Dec 16 15:39:04 CET 2001 from spider-wa051.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.41)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

!!!!!! How am I getting dragged back into the 'Clinton thing'? Ben Pike: Trust me, I don't need to pretend that I am not linked to the KKK or anyone involved in it! If you don't believe me you can come and inspect my closet for white sheets. You won't find any. Some nice lavender sheets from Ducks in a Row, and even some satin ones (blush) for Valentines Day are in my closet, but no white sheets with eye-holes. And speaking of Clinton and the Klan, one of the leading Senators to stop his impeachment was Robert Byrd, Democratic EX-KLAN Senator from West Virginia. It's SO interesting that Clinton, this 'persecuted' champion of the persecuted, in building his library back in Arkansas, had torn down an historic building against protests from preservationists.(I believe a train depot) built by freed slaves. I am a republican. Sorry Republican (the same party of Lincoln, the great Emancipator)with a capital R. I despise Clinton. However, I don't spend my Friday nights at the local VFW plotting slur campaigns against him. I don't even think about him. If I were to spend my time thinking of a Demcratic politician, there are plenty of great ones more worthy of my (and your!)attention than William 'Jefferson' Clinton. PETER VINEY: For bringing back this topic, GO TO YOUR ROOM!


Posted on Sun Dec 16 14:52:21 CET 2001 from du-tele3-124.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.124)

Peter Viney

The trouble with your Top 10 CDs as a Christmas gift, is that not only have I got all of my top 10, but most of them in remastered versions. I have Big Pink on vinyl, on remastered reissue vinyl, original CD, Toshiba remastered CD in slip case, and the 2000 Capitol remaster. In the end, the only wish on my top 10 list is an original US pressing with gatefold (though the Toshiba CD card case replicates it perfectly).


Posted on Sun Dec 16 14:48:36 CET 2001 from du-tele3-124.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.124)

Peter Viney

Ben: I think I got my "Winter Fire & Snow" at Borders or Barnes & Noble about 4 years ago - I've seen it since in the USA, but not this year - as I haven't been in the USA during the Christmas season.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 14:18:23 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ti053.proxy.aol.com (64.12.101.173)

calvin

Lets get this out of the way from the start John, I'm going to cheat, hopefully by being honest about it Ill be forgiven. I took my 10 from rock/pop only, C Hawker has some guts figuring out his top 10 using Jazz as well, way too hard for me-but Ill admit a real top 10 with a Roach/Brown album doesnt exist for me, and Im sure others would make it as well. Including one of the late 50s Sinatra disc, and possibly some Garland. But anyhoo in no order. 1) Northern Lights, Southern Cross-while obviously not the best, or most inovative, it is my "favorite" 2) Buffalo Springfield Again 3) Paul Butterfield Band-The second album with East-West, the name escapes me at the moment. 4) Dylan-Blood on the Tracks 5) The Kinks, The Village Green Preservation Society 6) Van Morrison-Moon Dance 7) Gram Parson-seft Title Debut 8) Poco-Forgotten Trail-while in some sense a GH albums, it offers up the "best of" as well as a lot of unreleased cuts from the Richie Furay, Jimmy Messina, Tim Schmidt version of the group. 9) Todd Rundgren-SOmething Anything 10) Bill Morrisey-Inside This list was a little off the cuff and Im sure Im forgetting something, but albums which might make it a differed day-Tom Waits-Rain Dogs, Wilco-Being There, The Big Pink, Marvin Gaye-Let's Get it On, Kinks-Kinda Kinks and Arthur, Joni-Court and Spark, Rickie Lee's first album and Naked Songs, Randy Newman-Sail Away.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 10:40:52 CET 2001 from sdn-ap-004castocp1570.dialsprint.net (63.187.38.46)

Charlie Hawker

From: San Francisco Bay Area

Here it is. In no particular order...

*******************************************************************

Neil Young – On the Beach ------- (Great record and as a bonus it features Levon and Rick on drums and Bass!!!!)

The Band – Big Pink & Jubilation ------- (First and last… why not? Gotta narrow it down somehow. “If I Should Fail” is so so sad and so so beautiful, it’s almost hard to listen to. I swear I can hear Richards voice on there.)

Tom Daily – The Burlington Northern ------- (This guy used to be in a band called Smoking Popes that were great and he by himself is also great and I think he plays every instrument on this album which I always think is cool.)

Tom Waits – Small Change ------- (If you can listen to "Tom Traubert's Blues" without being in tears you have absolutely no heart!!! Tom Waits is a genius.)

Dexter Gordon – Live at Carnegie Hall ------- (I would be happy just listening to Dexter Gordon speak!! The greatest tenor player I have ever heard. *** As a side note, if you haven’t seen the movie ‘Round Midnight you need to do so IMMEDIATELY. It is an unbelievably beautiful movie. The only “Music” movie I have ever seen that is truly great. Dexter Gordon plays the main character, I think he won an academy award for his role and it was the first (and I think only) movie he was ever in.***

The Beatles – Abbey Road ------ ("You never give me your money…You only give me your funny papers"... I have to be honest with you… I am still not sure if I really know what that means, but I think it is one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard.)

Lester Young – The President Plays with the Oscar Peterson Trio ------- (Lester Young was one of Dexter Gordon’s influences so I think that is enough said right there. But this record in particular is great because it pairs him with Oscar Peterson and his band who were burning. Not only that but you get to hear a take of the Prez singing “Two to Tango” which is so hilarious and funky that it alone would be worth getting this record.)

Traveling Wilburys – Volume One. ------- (While this record might not contain any of the participants best work (although I dare you to find a better song than “Handle With Care”) I love and admire this album because it actually sounds like a band… like they wrote the songs (or at least worked them out) together. In other words, even though you can tell the Bob songs and the George songs it sounds like a collaboration. As much as I like Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, I still feel they haven’t been able to make a record that truly sounds like that.)

Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds – The Best Of ------- (I know it’s kind of weak to put a Best of album in a list like this but as far as best of albums go this is a pretty good one and I find myself listening to it a lot. It bridges the span of his work fairly well. I saw Nick Cave play at Lollapalooza about six years ago and it was one of those times where you see someone who you know is great but they are just playing to the wrong crowd, he just could not win them over. But that was definitely their loss because he is really great. Amazing lyrics.)

Mississippi John Hurt - Today ------- (I bought this cd when I was a freshmen in high school (1991) and I don't think there has been a month since that I haven't listened to this at least once. This one will go right down to your soul.)

Botanica – Malediction ------ (Ok actually this record is not what I would call great BUT… I saw them live once at a little club in San Francisco, there were only about 10 people there, their bass player didn’t show up and it was still one of the best shows I have seen. So in other words this record is good but it just isn’t as good as they are live. They are a New York band too and they mostly play on the east coast so please go see them if you get the chance. I wish they played out here in the Bay Area more often.)

*******************************************************************

I know that was more than ten but jeez it was hard enough just keeping it to the number I did... so many records so little time. And I had to throw that last one in because I think they are a really good band, you know... support local music... help out the neighborhood!!!!! Anyway this was fun. Good idea John D.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 09:28:19 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp69893.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.190.242)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

FAVOURITES

1. Every Single Major Recording But Especially Songs of Freedom Because Of The Acoustic Medley....Bob Marley....Jamaican
2. Contact From The Under World Of Redboy....Robbie Robertson....CANADIAN....Toronto
3. Van Morrison....Astral Weeks And Into The Music....Irish
4. Bringing It All Back Home And Highway 61 Revisited And Blonde On Blonde And Blood On The Tracks And The Bootleg Series Volumes 1-3 And Biograph....Bob Dylan....American
5. Louuuuu Reed....Rock And Roll Animal And New York....American
6. The Band....Brown Album....Four Members CANADIAN....One Member American
7. Holly McNarland....Stuff....CANADIAN....Manitoba
8. Joni Mitchell....Court And Spark....CANADIAN....Saskatoon
9. The Clash....London Calling And Sandinista!....English
10. Otis Redding....The Best Of Otis Redding....American

FavouRite Disco Songs....heh, heh....Gloria Gaynor....I Will Survive And Sylvester....Mighty Real

Favourite Blues ....Robert Cray....Strong Persuader

Favourite Jazz ....Miles Davis....Kind Of Blue

Favourite Gospel....The Best Of The Staple Singers....Stax Recording

Favourite Classical....Henryk Gorecki....Symphony No. 3

Favourite Ska....The Specials....The Singles Collection

Favourite Country....Emmylouuuu Harris....Wrecking Ball

Favourite Rap.....2 Pac....Greatest Hits

Favourite Dutch Band....Sjako!....2 Meter Sessie And Page

Favourite Soundtrack....Robbie Robertson....Any Given Sunday Volume 2


Posted on Sun Dec 16 07:35:17 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Ed Blayzor

From: ny

John D here it goes:Beatles-Rubber Soul & the White album......Band-Stagefright & Jubilation.....Dylan- Blonde On Blonde.....John Hiatt- Crossing Muddy Waters ......John Prine- Great Days .....Neil Young -Harvest Moon...... and finally both D/F/A cd`s. Peace


Posted on Sun Dec 16 04:50:13 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

By the way they don't have to be in any order. Just your favorite 10.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 04:48:21 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

I've suggested threads in the past; but there's never been any takers. I'm just interested in this. If you could receive for Christmas your top 10 Albums or CD's of ALL time. What would they be? I put Album down because we all know some of our favorite records will never make it to CD. I'm sure a Band record or two will be in there in your top 10; but I'm interested in musical tastes in general. Thought it might be fun. This is kind of a take off on the old.......what records would you take with you to a destert island sort of thing. Now Butch......other than the best of The Partridge Family sings The Cowsills........


Posted on Sun Dec 16 03:11:44 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp69850.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.190.199)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

AMANDA ROCKS FROM THE SOUTH! Let's lighten things up.......Let's show everyone in BAND LAND how two gals can get along because we show respect to each other.......You're a huuuuuuuge Levon fan and I'm........:-D.......LEATHER AND MUSICIANS: Bob Marley.......Louuuuu Reed......Jim Morrison............blah, blah, blah.......all mighty fine.......and all serious about their own music.............

FAVE SONGS AT THIS VERY MOMENT: ALL EYEZ ON ME - COULD U B LOVED......2 Pac and Bob Marley.......DON'T CALL ME UP.......Mick Jagger........KEEP YOUR DISTANCE.......Buddy and Julie Miller........CHRISTMAS.....Otis Redding.........CHRISTMAS MUST BE TONIGHT........Rick Danko........and.........Robbie singing his own song...........faster vibe.........sexy voice........singing in falsetto...........helping us to remember................remember...........


Posted on Sun Dec 16 02:08:42 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

I am well aware that Levon, Garth, RR, Rick and Richard are all musicians and as far as I know none of them have donned a pair of leather pants at a show...a few of us gals wouldn't have minded that at all though. They are Rock Stars...that is just a term...not a label. Anyway....I think there is much more interesting subjects at hand....like the latest Barnburner shows....can't wait to hear the details.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 01:45:43 CET 2001 from spider-to073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.78)

Calvin

I guess for me Amanda guys like Levon, RR, and people I like are "musicians" (Wilco, Ryan Adams, et al) and "rock star" denotes the leather pants brigade who wouldn't understand the concept of putting out an album that they knew full well wouldnt sell becuase it was something they believed in. I remember our handshake, in that spirit I was attempting to explain my use of the term so there wouldnt be a misunderstanding.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 01:19:41 CET 2001 from spider-ta081.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.81)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Nice post Lil... my wife has been making caramel all day so I didn't even daydream of jumping on a flight out...

I think Santa still hasn't checked my list twice... so if anybody else wants to pipe in on the best of 2001... I'm all ears... btw I was thinking it would be cool if several of the websites for bands like this one, Neil Y., Van, Dylan, etc,... could come up with their own top 100 CDs... it would be neat to see how different these lists might appear from industry lists... just daydreaming not asking...


Posted on Sun Dec 16 00:40:57 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

Straight between the eyes Jenny T.


Posted on Sun Dec 16 00:05:13 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tb024.proxy.aol.com (64.12.104.29)

Ben Pike

From: Cleveland Tx

Rick Danko was also overwieght and using herion. Had he handled his money wisely, overwork would not have been an issue. Surely his too early death related to these factors.

One doesn't have to be a big Clinton fan to know his persecution by the press and right wing fools (it was Klansman in his home state, who Tull fan would pretend to distance himself from, who got the ball rolling) was the real scandel. Compare Clinton's supposed sins in "Whitewater" to the Bush family being thick as theives with the Enron gang.

Who can even get mad anymore at the laughable attacks on Robbie Robertson ? His detractors resemble nothing so much as twisted Clinton haters. Hey Peter V, WHERE do you get that other version of "Christmas Must Be Tonght?"


Posted on Sat Dec 15 23:55:56 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Calvin...I guess the term Rock Star means something different to me. It may be a male/female thing...who knows??? I don't think the term Rock Star is negative....there are many people in this world and some here on the GB....that would really dig Rock Star status. I DO know that some rock stars can be full of themselves and shallow, etc. I think a Rock Star is someone who is extremely talented and well known and loved and admired by many people. Levon is still doing the same thing (except singing) that he did during the glory days of The Band. He is STILL well-known, STILL loved and STILL admired by many people. I am a 33 year old woman...when I saw Levon live for the first time...I absolutely knew without a doubt what all those gals must have felt like when the Beatles got off the airplane, for the first time, in NYC. Now if those weren't Rock Star vibes......Just like Brown Eyed Girl said in her last post......all I know is how he appears to me.....to you Calvin, it is a whole different thing....remember the handshake??


Posted on Sat Dec 15 23:32:16 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tg034.proxy.aol.com (64.12.102.164)

Calvin

When I saw "rock star" Amanda I don't really mean it in a positive way, I mean someone who appeals to the masses and is a large seller because of it (Lord, didnt that sound pretentious). I certainly prefer the Barnburners to just about every album you'd find in the top 20 at the moment. WHen I say Levon isn't a ROck Star I mean he isnt someone your basic reader of "Teen People" want to hear about. Youre right Lil, the claims about RR causing Rick and RIchard's death are outrageous, which is why until I here Levon say it, I don't really believe. I do however believe that reporters try very hard to get him to trash RR in interviews because a feud between him and RR is a bigger story than what the BArnburners are doing to the masses. Hope that clarify's my point.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 23:31:49 CET 2001 from spider-wq084.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.202)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Great post Lil - and I'm glad you didn't get into that car.

It seems to me that you would have to be a complete fool to suggest that RR had anything to do with the deaths of Richard and Rick. I don't care if you hate Robbie in every way - but would you go up to his face and accuse him of killing someone, or even contributing to a persons death? It's an awful thing to accuse him of.

That Borderline CD looks very interesting. How do you find these things Jan? It's always cool when something "new" that involves Richard crops up.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 23:03:02 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

Calvin...Levon is not a former rock star...he is still ROCKIN' and he definitely remains a STAR!

BTW...if anyone is interested...found a place to get both of Borderline's cds...see the link above. I am definitely intrigued and think the three clips Jan provided are great. I am always happy to discover new old stuff...and this is quite a discovery.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 22:55:06 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp61.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.61)

Diamond Lil

C'mon. This is really getting sickening. The _only_ thing responsible for Rick's death was tremendously out-of-control blood pressure, which he knew about and tried and failed to get back under control. I really think he would be livid if he heard the accusations flying back and forth. There is no way _he_ would be "blaming" Robbie..or Levon.. or anyone else for his death. The notion that he "worked himself to death" may well be true.. but he _loved_ what he was doing and he drove _himself_ harder than anyone. It certainly may be more "interesting" to conjure up all kinds of 'who-did-what-to-whos' here.. but before Rick died, he was very much at peace with his life and his former Band mates. Not as interesting I'm sure.. but true.

I'm not going to pretend to understand all of the anger in Levon's book, nor is it my place to. I do know however that his grief was deep, and his anger..whether somewhat misdirected or not.. was real. I think he tried to be honest about what he was feeling..and if it's misunderstood or misinterpreted or even right on the money..it doesn't change my feelings about The Band or the music at all.

Anyhow.. that's all I wanted to say. I'm bummed here tonight. I was thisclose to going down to NYC for the Tribeca show..and my stupid common sense kicked before getting in the car with someone whose Budweiser blood content was off the charts when he got here to pick me up. And so.. I'll spend the night disappointed..but at least I'll live, hm?

Have a good night everyone. Huuuuuug Jan.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 22:13:02 CET 2001 from 01-038.046.popsite.net (64.24.231.38)

Jenny T

From: Piedra Gorda

Well I wouldn't believe Levon blames RR for Rick's death, except the revised edition of his book basically says so. There is a new chapter at the end to update the book, and it says that Rick died because he worked himself to death because he was out of money because guess who ripped him off.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 22:07:05 CET 2001 from sdn-ar-002paphilp316.dialsprint.net (168.191.31.222)

Peter Stone Brown

From: Philly
Web page

Very interesting to see the Montgomeries mentioned here and Hi Lennox has a great memory since we are talking over 30 years ago. The Montgomeries moved to Woodstock in 1969 from New York City. Their repetoire included two Basement Tapes songs, "Tiny Montgomery" and "Down In The Flood," as well as several originals. The band went through several personnel changes but the primary members were bassist and songwriter, Tony Brown, guitarist and singer Dave Gershen, who also wrote songs and guitarist/drummer, Jon Gershen. Eventually keyboard player, Mike Esterowitz was added to the fold.

This was an extremely talented band that deserved to make it big, but the right recording deal never appeared and eventually they fell apart. "Don't Know Where I'm Goin'" on the Borderline disc was originally done by the Montgomeries in a much different arrangement and ended up being the only song from this band hever put on disc.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 21:52:33 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

I have a comment to make about the post below mine but I don't think they would allow it in the Guestbook.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 21:43:21 CET 2001 from du-tele3-148.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.148)

Peter Viney

Apropos of nothing really. My Christmas shopping trip to London today was enlivened by the inevitable spotting of a celebrity. There was Bill Clinton shopping in the St James area, just behind Fortnum & Masons. He was walking along in the midst of a large entourage, and I know this site is divided between those who love him and those who hate him, but what I noticed was the tangible charisma the guy has just walking down the street. Now whether that’s the result of being in power, or the cause of getting into power, I don’t know. I’ve seen a few famous people in passing but rarely one with such an aura. I don’t think it’s the surrounding guards etc, though it’s interesting to see the way someone walks when they never have to think about people walking in the opposite direction, and haven’t had to for about ten years.

Band link: Blue Jeans Bash. Arkansas. Had to tell SOMEBODY!


Posted on Sat Dec 15 21:15:46 CET 2001 from spider-wg032.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.32)

Harry & Mim

From: Bucks County, PA

Friends: There'll be "dim lights, thick smoke, and loud, loud music" tonight at the Tribeca Blues club, downtown NYC, Broadway & Warren. If you never heard Little Sammy Davis sing the blues and blow the harp, you got the chance now. He's appearing with Levon Helm, various members of the BarnBurners, Jimmy Vivino, and Tony Garnier (among several other "potenshul" guests that Mr. Butch has so temptingly alluded to. Butch, you old tease & marketing "empressario"....) Anywhooo, I'd be there if the Mim was up for it - roaring up the "NJ turnpike in the wee, wee hours" to catch a great show. Nooo Yawk residents and bridge & tunnel blues fans are advised.... Recent events have served to remind that sometimes you only get one chance to do the right thing. PLH, Mim & Harry "LET IT ROCK like a steel drivin' hammer..."


Posted on Sat Dec 15 20:49:43 CET 2001 from spider-wk064.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.179)

Calvin

I have a theory about Levon being portrayed as being so angry in the press Brown Eyed Girl, while youd, and to an extent I, didnt think he seem as much so in his book. Basically when a reporter interviews Levon, who at the moment is not a big headliner nor does he have a record deal, the story is thr feud with RR. SO the reporters badger him about RR to the point Levon lets it fly a little, such as Hoskyn's in ROlling Stone. I really can't believe Levon blames RR for RIck and Richard's death, that would be ludicrous. But the reporting keeps asking and asking, till they get the quotes they want, and then write the story about the bitter former rock star. Cheap, shoddy journalism.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 20:11:46 CET 2001 from c-dcc671d5.02-2-67626719.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (213.113.198.220)

Markku (Quos)

From: The Bandland
Web page

Calvin, Julie Miller's records are definitely worth checking out, although I personally prefer Buddy's work. While you are at it, you should definitely get Emmylou Harris' Spyboy Live (also on DVD), Buddy plays some mean guitar on that one. Buddy and Julie are also on Emmylou's Red Dirt Girl.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 19:47:00 CET 2001 from 1cust127.tnt2.bloomington.in.da.uu.net (65.224.144.127)

princess evening sky

From: bloomington indiana

this is new site to me and was wondering if youre cd's have the words inclkuded with the music as im partially deaf and would also like to hear from natives email pals i am home alot disabled thanks walk in beauty sky


Posted on Sat Dec 15 16:18:10 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp70171.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.192.12)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

WAR......WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?......or.............WAR.......WHO IS IT GOOD FOR?......Instead of hearing about CINDERELLA from the Grandfather I loved immensely and lived with..........I would hear other stories........such as how his Father was stoned to death because it was assumed he was a Communist.........My Grandfather was only eleven years old...............Three generations in my family..........not knowing their Fathers.........My Grandfather emigrated to Canada in the thirties........It wasn't until two decades later that the family he left behind in Europe......experienced a Civil War and then they came to Canada a few years later in the fifties.......I am the only one in my family who is first generation Canadian..........I am sure it is because of all the stories I heard at such a young age that I acted older than my age.............and became a PACIFIST and I rejected my family's religion.........Although I didn't replace it with Marley's Jah Rastafari.......I do find wisdom in Marley's writings...........LET RIGHTEOUSNESS COVER THE EARTH..........LIKE A WATER COVER THE SEA............(REVOLUTION)............Everytime I witness my students trying to bully each other or use their fists to solve problems...........I literally cringe at first..........because I think about their world role models who teach them everyday that it is ACCEPTABLE to solve problems with might and force...........Of course I try to teach them to use their words and show respect for differences..............but I AM COMPETING WITH GREATER FORCES...............

I preferred reading Hoskyn's book..........I avoided Levon's book for a long time because.............well.......y'all know why...................but I finally managed to find a copy and take the plunge.................I found the writing didn't flow as easily as Hoskyn's..........and for some reason whenever he spoke about Robbie............I don't know..........for some reason............because of this Band Guestbook actually...........................I thought Levon's condemnation of Robbie would be even harsher than it was.....at least that's how I remember it............It was in the articles that were written about Levon and Robbie.......................that were harsh and unbelievable...........In any case, I will read any book on The Band............At the moment........We only have two that are available................which is interesting isn't it......that more writers aren't as interested in The Band as other influential musical innovators?.........I have twenty two books on Dylan alone............seven books on Louuuuu and three on Bob Marley.......both of these artists have many many more books available...............

The last recorded interview of Robbie by a York Universiy Prof from Toronto shows Robbie hinting at possibily writing some kind of book in the future........but then again.......Robbie can be a real tease.........just listen to the brilliant guitar work in his solo work...............breathtaking..........but he ONLY GIVES A LITTLE BIT..............He could give us sooooooo much more..............but he chooses not to........But then, I have to respect that too, don't I?? Robbie has the courage to beat to his own drum and be true to himself..............but nevertheless.......he continues to beat...........like a heart beat........like my heart beats.......I can now hear my Brother saying to me......"Do you know Robbie........you sound like you know him the way you talk about him?"..........No one can really know anyone.........I know OF Robbie and how HE APPEARS TO ME.......and I know that I can learn from him and be inspired by him...........that's all I really know about Robbie..............and will ever know..........


Posted on Sat Dec 15 14:26:40 CET 2001 from spider-tf051.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.196)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Wars and Religion: How ironic that we were recently discussing George Harrison's religion and spirituality. Although religion can be used as a catalyst for violence, more often than not those who would commit such acts misuse its' name. Personally, I feel concepts of tribalism, moreso than religion, are to blame. The Palestinians and Jews have much more in common than not, in fact they are cousins according to the bible. To be an anti-semite is , properly interpreted, can mean anti jew OR anti Palestinian. It is not religion, but tribalistic notions that cause LA gangs like the Crips and Bloods and gangs in other cities to kill each other over offenses as petty as standing under the wrong streetlight. It is tribalism that causes warlords in Somalia and Afghanistan to raid neighboring villages, robbing, raping, and murdering. Ditto for other ethnic and social groups in India, Ireland, Russia,etc. etc. The KKK in the US is nothing but a self-created 'tribe', all the way down to the silly costumes. They claim to be a 'Christian' organization, but we know we can't blame Christianity for their warped social views and acts. If you think about it, the followers of sports teams, ie English football or American baseball, etc. are following ingrained tribal instincts, albeit in a much more sociably acceptable fashion. (I know!, but even some of those British football fans who get unruly can't be grouped with the more nefarious offenders I mentioned earlier).


Posted on Sat Dec 15 13:38:02 CET 2001 from dialup-280.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.24)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

I saw The Gap commercial on Sky Sports..........I was in a TV shop......There was RR.....but it did'nt make me wanna go out and buy Gap stuff......Now, if it featured RR and Levon arm wrestling or jammin' on guitar and drums......that's a different story.......I'd buy shares in Gap if they did that........

I'll tell ya how outta the loop The Band are in the eyes of The Military-Industrial Entertainment Complex wot rules The World: The Levon-RR Feud would be PERFECT for Celebrity Deathmatch on MTV.......but , the way things are, MTV would not even acknowledge their existence.........

Perhaps it's just as well.........

It's interesting to read all the different posts on War and Warfare on these pages........It's rare to see such passion and intelligence these days......there's so much banality and bullshit in modern electronic media that this forum is such a relief........Meawhile, The whole bin Laden thing is a joke.....While the world watches and waits for Osama, Yasser Arafat is about to be destroyed......and public opinion is "Oh Well, they're all rotten ragheads.....Nuke 'em all". Osama is like the guy in Bob Dylans "It's Alright Ma, I'm Only Bleeding"........

"When a Trembling distant Voice, Unclear

Startles Your Sleepling Ears to Hear that Somebody Really found You"

That Video proves what an idiot bin Laden really is........what kinda of terrorist would ALLOW such a video to be made in the middle of all this?........the answer is....not a very bright one......he's obviously surrounded by people who're telling him...."Hey, dude, you're GREAT!......Look at all the chaos you've caused!".....and (like many a Rock/Pop/Movie Star) he believes his own hype.......just like Hitler.....surrrounded by evil bastards who prop him up for their own agenda......meanwhile, Chaos rules and innocent people die worldwide. Sept 11. was ALLOWED to happen and bin Laden was so hung up in his own hype that he's HAPPY to take the credit and BELIEVE he was solely responsible. There was speculation in the Irish media that bin Laden and the guys in that video were all stoned. It's very sad.......NYC was sacrificed by The Masters of War and vain, stoned idiots like bin Laden propped up so that US-Israeli policies rule in the middle east......What was the big Middle Eastern News news BEFORE Sept 11?......If y'all recall, The UN was being called on to declare and condemn Israel as racist because of the Palestinian struggle......Then, BANG, WTC and The Pentagon, bombed by A-rabs!!!......It's been claimed that French/Algerian intelligence was warning The USA about an attack for some time before it happened.......There are rumours that The Mossad knew about it but let it go down........and go down it did, in full view of The World with the effect of Re-Unifying The USA and mobilising the troops, firing up minds and hearts and making W. look great (although the real political hero in all this will forever be Rudy Guliano.....a man who obviously KNEW his city had been sacrificed and acted with compassion and dignity and led his people thru the horror and out the other side.) There's more to this thing than ONE stylish Arabian terrorist and his stoned buds in a home made video....but if you were to believe what we're being fed by the media, that's ALL there is to it......Yesterdays headlines SCREAMED at us about this Video.....meanwhile, Arafats compound gets surrounded, is about to be destroyed and it's a small article on page 2 and the 2nd or 3rd item on the TV news.

Before any of you start saying I'm anti-Israeli or Anti-Semitic let me tell you that I'm not........I sincerely believe that, after thousands of years of persecution, that The Jews deserve a homeland in Palestine. From where I am and for what I do, and how I live my life, it is, in fact, more prudent for me to be behind any US-Israeli policy and to support The USA in what it wants to do in this horrendous situation....I realise that The Taliban and their ilk are horrible, nasty people and I realise that terrorism is a huge threat to Global security........... BUT......I also realise that if Israel would SHARE their miracle in the desert with the descendants of the folks that were living there in 1947 it would go a long way towards chilling everyone out....as it is, everyone is bent on revenge and this is why things are the way they are and innocent people die worldwide.

Then again, having said all THAT, Levons book is a better read than Hoskyns because of the dead deer story.....I enjoyed Hosykns book but when I read that story about Rick hitting the deer I laughed for days , y'know?........I'm sorry for the deer and his family 'n'all but THAT sorta detail gave Levons book the edge.......


Posted on Sat Dec 15 07:31:48 CET 2001 from spider-wm084.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.189)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

Just back from the Barnburner show at the Stone Pony..., Could only stay for a set But WOW! Just great music! Titles of old blues songs is not a strength of mine. I will tell you that they really cranked up the Chicago Blues sound and they played one of their own called The Grass is Always Greener. I believe they said they wrote it. Pat O'Shea is an amazing guitar player - really cranks it -you can feel the groove really move through him. And Levon did this high hat play thing in the second song of the set that was just terrific.

Shot a roll of film but the place was so dark, it was hard to get real quality stuff. If anything comes out -i'll be more than happy to share ..,


Posted on Sat Dec 15 05:37:14 CET 2001 from spider-wj021.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.26)

Calvin

Wow Don, just this afternoon a friend gave me a Buddy Miller CD, who I hadn't heard of until today-and I absolutely love it. I was actually going to post about it tonight and suggest people pick it up-I did notice that it the liner notes he mentions Julie (who sings with him on the CD quite a bit) has a CD out as well, is the music just as good as Buddy's?


Posted on Sat Dec 15 04:26:53 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp53.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.53)

Diamond Lil

Aah... it's nice to see Santa back on the site! Nice of you to do that for everyone Jan. I do have a question though. Is it just me..or does he look like he's been nipping at the Aquavit? :-)

Have a good night everyone.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 03:05:05 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

Hi: Looks like you were right about the Montgomeries. Check out the link above. Did you actually see them perform? Great music....


Posted on Sat Dec 15 01:28:46 CET 2001 from 1cust240.tnt3.poughkeepsie.ny.da.uu.net (63.17.109.240)

Hi

Anyone know if Borderline(see "what's new" on this site) was a spin off from the Montgomeries, a Band like group around 1969 that did the great white wonder's Tiny Montgomery as a sort of theme song...Van M. sat in with them at the Sled Hill Cafe and they played in the field in Zena for those pre Bethel outdoor concerts..I don't think they ever got a record out but they were mighty fine...anyone?


Posted on Sat Dec 15 00:39:38 CET 2001 from dialin-529-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.3.21)

Gene

The history of mankind is a history of warfare. There are a plethora of causes for war; geographic, racial, economic, political, revenge...religion isn't really necessary. Further, I would argue that religious INTOLERANCE is the real danger, not religion. I have seen many people gain positive benefit from their faith and I would not deny them that.


Posted on Sat Dec 15 00:18:56 CET 2001 from (24.159.101.226)

Don Pugatch

From: Roswell, Ga
Web page

Two points, the top 100 CD's voted by the listeners of FUV are on their web page, interesting collection, and yes, I did have 2 out of the top 10 on my list.

Other note, a big Thank you to my man Mr. Dener for introducing me to the music of Buddy and Julie Miller (not in person), but on Jan 12, all the living souls who reside in this paradise called Atlanta, can see them at the Variety Playhouse, only problem, the other act is Steve Forbert, bah humbug. Oh, up to candle 6 tonight!!!


Posted on Fri Dec 14 23:55:13 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk062.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.47)

Tommy

From: Brooklyn,NY

Hello friends..It's been a few days. I just had surgery on Tuesday, a cornea transplant, and this is the first day I can look at the computer screen without tearing and wincing in pain.So I just thought I'd check in.

As a "Get Well" present, my brother got me the reissued 'Moondog Matinee'.It's a rockin' album!I love the doubled drums on the songs.More like the Allman Bros. drums' section then the post-Last Waltz Band double drums' section.I like that much better.The album also seems like a showcase for Garth...he's doing his thing on 'Moondog' like a mother!Not too many Rick vocals I noticed as well.Nice stuff from Richard though. I like the album alot more than I thought I would.Not bad.

Good thing aboue a cornea transplant;Soon I'll have 20/20 vision with the use of contacts or glasses.Bad thing;NO DRINKING DURING THE HOLIDAYS!!!!!BAH! All those Xmas celebrations I'll be missing....((((sob sob))))


Posted on Fri Dec 14 21:56:58 CET 2001 from 3cust47.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.193.93.47)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

There are literally hundreds of books devoted to Dylan and The Beatles while thusfar only two concerning The Band. Therefore, I am grateful for Hoskyns' "Across The Great Divide" and find the Rhino "Classic Albums" video a much greater distortion of The Band's music than anything written by Hoskyns as it ostensibly is about the making of The Brown Album but deals interchangeably with material from Big Pink.

Welcome aboard Not Crabgrass!!


Posted on Fri Dec 14 19:50:27 CET 2001 from spider-tp054.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.199)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

A Band book w/o mention of human failings would be pretty useless in my opinion... but that doesn't mean you can't spin it to be truthful and respect the dignity of the guys and families... and positively inspiring to future readers... Hopefully somebody talented but young will write one for Robbie... I say young only because it would be nice to have somebody around after the guys pass on who can help keep the perspective the guys might want via interviews or whatever... anyway, if you've stayed with me this far then I'll add to my last post and say that I also enjoyed Dylan's 2001 release (though I hated it 1st listen)... and my vote for book goes to Q for his Medicine Man... I hope he writes another...


Posted on Fri Dec 14 19:49:34 CET 2001 from pub45.lrc.swt.edu (147.26.109.174)

Pehr

I'm with David and Bones on this one. While I managed to enjoy Hoskyns's book, I preferred Levon's by far. I dont expect Levon to be telling all that stuff with pinpoint accuracy and find some of his "rough estimates" as to what happened when somewhat endearing. Hoskyns got published, his book did pretty well considering everything. I think Hoskyns needs to wipe his chin and get on.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 19:07:12 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

From: CT

Hoskyns was certainly wrong about one thing. Jann Wenner did not throw out his Levon interview because of the harsh words toward Robertson. The interview that was later published by Rolling Stone had Levon blaming Robbie for everything (including Richard and Rick's deaths). I don't think you could get harsher than that.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 19:06:26 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

It is very evident that Hoskyns has his own agenda when discussing the Band. One should seriously question his objectivity, since, by his own admission, he feels that various members of the group have somehow interfered with his efforts. You need to look no further than his own lame, profanity-laced, cliched characterization of the group (in the interview that Peter posted) to see where he's coming from. It seems clear that he's more interested in raising issues concerning the private lives of individuals than he is in writing about the music. The fact that both Levon and Robbie, who rarely see eye-to-eye about anything these days, seem to be unified in their disdain for Hoskyns is revealing enough in itself.

At this point in time, those interested in learning more about The Band should look to the various "officially" released videos on the subject, many of which are now available in the DVD format. Hopefully, an expanded version of The Last Waltz, will soon be available also.

It is my opinion that Hoskyns has shown that he does not respect the members of The Band, evidenced in the manner in which he portrays them. This disrespect is especially distasteful in light of the fact that Richard and Rick are no longer with us.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 18:29:14 CET 2001 from pc51-127.hiof.no (158.36.51.127)

jh

Web page

Re. the remastered albums: Hoskyns' rejected liner notes are available at this site, click the "Web page" link above.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 18:07:13 CET 2001 from spider-wi051.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.41)

Not Crabgrass

Crabgrass,

In the 20th Century, over 170 million people were killed by their own governements by some estimates. Of that number approximately 117 million can be attributed to three regimes:

Soviet Union, 1917 - 1987 (61 million)
Maoist (and counter-Maoist) China, 1947 - 1987 (35 million)
Nazi Germany, 1933 - 1945 (21 million)

If we toss in the 2 million killed by the Khmer Rouge, the 1 million killed under Tito in Yugoslavia, we get a nice round number of 120 million dead at the hands of leaders and governments that were fundamentally atheistic. Meaning of the staggering 170 million people killed in some form of genocide in the 20th Century, 70% came at the hands of leaders WHO DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD.

Of course much of history's death toll can be attributed to a religious excuse of one kind or another. However, an intelligent man like you should be able to understand that it's the mutual sublimation of religion and politics that creates the deadly blend. Is it politics entering churches or religion entering politics that creates the problem? Does the distinction matter?

People will kill each other and find a cause to fuel their bloodlust, whether God's in the picture or not. Zealotry and dogma are the enemies of mankind, not a singular belief system.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 17:42:07 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

Web page

I believe it was Diamond Lil I should be thanking for this. I believe it was Lil that first wrote about Ryan Adams on these pages. Well.........better late than never I picked up "Gold" by Adams last night and the last Whiskeytown CD. The "Gold" CD is one of the finest pieces of work I have heard it a long time. Using Ethan Jones and Benmont Tench (my favorite keyboard guy after Garth) on the Hammond B-3 gives me memories of The Band and Dylan. Not that he sounds like them; but has that 60's soul organ groove. I listened right through from beginning to end. That I haven't done in a long time. This guy is great and check out his video of New York New York. You won't be disappointed.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 17:27:33 CET 2001 from du-tele3-160.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.160)

Peter Viney

More of the Hoskyns interview (for rocks BackPages) – I also posted this second lot last year.:

Barney: I’d love to update the book and include the interview material I subsequently got from Levon, Rick and others.

Gary: Was it strange writing a biography only to discover that someone in the group was writing an AUTObiography?

Barney: Not so much strange as galling -– for the reasons outlined above. But then when all the smoke had blown over, I thought Levon’s book pretty much sucked as a believable account of what happened to those five dudes.

Gary: Any big surprises about the Band while doing research?

Barney: Just how fucked-up and rock-star they were behind the shy farmer facade. But I should have seen that coming.

Gary: The new release package for the recent Band re-issues stated that you would be supplying liner notes. It was Rob Bowman –- what gives?

Barney: I wrote a complete set of notes for the albums –- and was paid well for my troubles, thank God –- and then that immensely vain control freak Robertson, who’d taken exception to my portrayal of him in Divide, decided he didn’t want me involved. He cost Capitol thousands of dollars by binning my pretty decent notes and hauling in his dutiful servant Rob Bowman to trot out the old mundanities.

Gary: How do you feel about the reissues? How about the plethora of Basement Tapes songs that were listed as “outtakes”? (And don’t even get me started on “Bessie Smith,” which was identified as an outtake from Cahoots.)

Barney: It’s a scam, though Cheryl Pawelski at Capitol did her best under difficult circumstances. The absurd misidentification of “Bessie Smith” as a Cahoots outtake –- stubbornly held on to by Robertson –- was one of the points of contention that led to my notes being dumped.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 17:16:40 CET 2001 from spider-te043.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.193)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

David P: My personal favs from 2001 include the following... seeing Prof. Louie & Crowmatix with Garth on 12/29/00 (OK not technically 2001 but I didn't get to report for 2000 so)... seeing the Barn Burners in Mpls this summer... whoaa, let me catch my breath... and now for new release CDs... does the Buffalo Springfield Box Set count?... and then there's Garth's Sea, the Crowmatix JAM!, Mike DeMicco's As The Sun Sets, and John Trudell's Bone Days... and that's just off the top of my head... I can't wait to hear from others who are able to buy a wee bit more CDs than I... Take care all... my Xmas GB wish is health for those still playing... as well as for all GBers... Take care...


Posted on Fri Dec 14 17:11:30 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

According to info that Jan has previously posted here (in the Library section), a "revised/expanded" version of Hoskyns book is set to be reissued next year.

I thought Levon was very candid in his book when discussing many, essentially, private matters. His forthrightness is very much in evidence with his allowing the inclusion of reminiscences from Libby Titus.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 17:02:12 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Norbert....I just wanted to say ....you did a fabulous job on Brown Eyed Girl's Birthday Webpage! That was the coolest!! I believe you covered the guestlist with all of her favorites...way to go!!

Jan: You are the greatest for presenting us with the "Singing Santa"...it is beautiful...thank you.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 16:56:25 CET 2001 from du-tele3-083.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.83)

Peter Viney

Sorry for my lack of communication recently. I’m grappling with Mac OS X and losing, plus I’ve hardly been at my desk for several days. Hoskyns is essential reading. Yes. he took quotes from more than a hundred articles, and compiled them. He used several radio show interviews. He also did interview Robbie directly before publication. He lists a LOT of sources quite openly in the back.But you try compiling the small relevant bits from hundreds of articles. It’s a major job of work for which he deserves credit, and the spotlight on the Band did them no harm. He also has good critical insight into songs and lyrics. This is from a Hoskyns interview we discussed last year. I posted this on the site last year too.

Gary: Were there any interviews you wished you had got for the book?

Barney: You could say that! Levon Helm, Rick Danko and Garth Hudson would have been nice, for a start. Levon was writing his own book (This Wheel's On Fire), so he and Stephen Davis conspired to bully Rick and Garth into not talking to me. Some time later, I interviewed Rick a couple of times, and then finally Levon himself, in a profile for Rolling Stone that got canned because Levon said too many mean things about Jann Wenner’s pal Robbie Robertson

(later)

Gary: Did you get any reactions from any of the principals after the book came out?

Barney: Not directly, but my name was mud around Bearsville. Bizarrely, when I came to interview Levon for Rolling Stone in, I guess, 1998, he never alluded to my book once, either because he was blanking the matter in order to get himself into Rolling Stone, or because he genuinely didn’t know who I was. He was incredibly warm and hospitable, as it happened. But I still think his hatred for Robertson is detrimental to his health.

(later)

Gary: Did you get caught up in the feud between Levon and Robbie? You remain fairly impartial in the book -– any thoughts you’d care to share? (Maybe Levon and Mike Love should write some songs together and set the record straight once and for all?)

Barney: I didn’t get “caught up”, as such. The way I view it, neither Levon nor Robbie was half the musical force he’d been once they went their separate ways -– and that goes for The Band as a whole. Something happened when those five gentlemen came together, and it was destroyed when Robertson left.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 16:38:20 CET 2001 from raindel.jvlnet.com (216.145.200.249)

Ann

Thanks for the Christmas present Jan. :0)


Posted on Fri Dec 14 07:31:13 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

Carmen, I know Jagger's new album is good, I was commenting on how the sales are supposedly disappointing..to bad huh? Anyway....due to the discussion on the Hoskyns book in here, I have decided to get a copy...maybe it will shed new light, maybe more real truth..maybe.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 06:38:35 CET 2001 from 1cust108.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.193.92.108)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Well, I found the bin Laden interview quite boring as he didn't make any mention at all of The Band.

The recent escalation of the perennial religious war between the Israelis and Palestinians and the arrests of several American JDL members for plotting to bomb mosques in California should, in my opinion, make one question the benefit to mankind (if any) of religion in general. I don't recall ever hearing about anyone starting a war or causing violence due to a misinterpretation of humanistic, agnostic, or atheistic writings though undeniably much large-scale violence over the past several thousand years has been attributed to socalled "misinterpretations" of "Holy Scriptures" and "Sacred Writings."

On a lighter note, I picked up a local newspaper today bearing the headline "BLAZE DESTROYS 85 YEAR OLD CHURCH - Fire Breaks Out During Afternoon Services." (No one was hurt btw - I guess that will be proclaimed by the faithful as a "miracle.")


Posted on Fri Dec 14 05:22:11 CET 2001 from spider-wg062.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.47)

Bayou Sam

From: NY

John D = I'd like to see the war end too, but do you look at it simply as "revenge"? We're doing "preventive maintenance". If this guy gets nuclear weapons, he will use them. As crude and vicious as this may sound - we need to stick a bomb under his ass so he can't do anymore. Have you seen the just released video?

I don't know how visible the Trade Center carnage still is everywhere else in the world as compared to here. Shortly after 9/11 the local (Long Island, N.Y.) paper ran a short peice everyday on a dozen or so of the lives lost from here. These peices STILL run EVERYDAY in the paper. There are still funerals. They just found a pocket of bodies (about 20) the other day under the rubble. I worked in a school today in Chinatown - very close to ground zero. One of the teachers told me that on 9/11, the school kids saw the second plane hit, and people jumping out of the building. I wonder when they're nightmares will end.

It's not about revenge in my mind. it's about stopping the terror. Wee stopped twice in the last two days and asked the bad guys to come out. We gave peace a chance - they didn't.


Posted on Fri Dec 14 01:43:21 CET 2001 from akcf1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.202)

Rod

From: NZ
Web page

I prefer Hoskyn's book to Levon's hand down. I guess the reason why The Band didn't co-operate with Hoskyn's was because Levon's book was in the wings. It's a shame because at that time The Band didn't exactly have a high profile. It was also before Jericho was released (if I remember rightly) so there wasn't really alot to be enthused about when discussing life after the Waltz.

Levon is as guilty of plagarizing reviews as Hoskyns is. In particular there is a piece on the first concert at Winterland where his "recollection" is straight out of a Rolling Stone article.



Posted on Fri Dec 14 00:30:00 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

From: the BEAUTIFUL lowlands

Hey Ilkka, enjoy France......(get drunk on Ronnies,1664's and 'einekens.... ;-).....till 2002......


Posted on Thu Dec 13 21:28:18 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

From: CT

Hoskyns went into the project with good intentions. He truly liked the Band, and found their story very unique. He wanted to be known as the Band biographer, but a lot of things went wrong. Egos and politics on both sides ruined the project. He should have dropped it when he realized the Band were not going to cooperate.

I gather he is very bitter about it now. Although he speaks fondly of the music, and its place in history, he talks very negatively about all Band members. I'm glad Robbie got him off the reissue project.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 20:42:24 CET 2001 from (205.245.52.66)

Carmen

From: pa

Rosalind-For what it's worth, I have the new Mick Jagger CD and think it is very good.IMHO his best solo release out of the 4 to date. The opening of track 3 has a RR sound to it.

Mick is going to be the SNL musical guest this week.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 18:39:03 CET 2001 from dialup-63.208.71.187.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.208.71.187)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

BTW, another interesting interview was just posted on the internet: bin Laden's. Required reading.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 17:54:26 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tc084.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.189)

Calvin

Dont get me wrong Nick, I know Hoskyn's book has some major problems, but I still think it has a lot of insight-I believe a lot of Band fans dislike it because it does go into drug problems and other things that we don't like to admit they did-Levon's book tends to gloss over those-which any normal human being would do when they write their autobiography. I think both books are required reading for Band fan though.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 17:23:32 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta021.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.26)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

If anyone wants to have a beer and catch the Barnburners Show tomorrow night at the Pony in Asbury Park - give me a shout, it should be an excellent show.

As a side bar: Going through boxes in my basement, i came across a couple of my Putumayo cd's. I don't know how many folks out there have any of these, but Putumayoa puts together a great collection of music from around the world. If you are curious as to the musical sound of a region in the world - these are the cd's to get. Maybe a good stocking stuffer for those looking for an adventure in their musical appreciation.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 16:49:54 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

Thanks for the insight into the book mentioned below.....now I won't try and find it. I knew it was bad, but I didn't know it was that bad. Thanks


Posted on Thu Dec 13 15:00:49 CET 2001 from wcs2-pent-2.nipr.mil (206.38.114.100)

Nick

From: Virginia

Calvin, A couple insights on the Hoskyns book. First although it's a pretty good read what Hoskyns did was compile a list of every article written about the Band and then write their story in chronological fashion based on that, lifting qoutes directly from the articles. He had no cooperation or insight from The Band but it seems he tried to give that impression... as though they actually spoke to him about their feelings. In my opinion as you get towards the and of the book and Hoskyns is realizing that no one from the Band is going to talk to him, it begins to take a nasty turn with some cheaps shots. He acts like the Band would never put out anything good again. In fact the book makes no mention at all of the fine DFA record that came out in '91 in Norway and won the Norwegian grammy (help me with the name Jan). Some research, Hoskyns didn't even know the record existed or was being worked on! Then the Band put it in his face again with the release of Jericho in '93, the same year the book came out. So now that I know what I know I realize Hoskyns book ain't as great as it appears. If anyone does it, Robert Greenfield should do it, using the non-narrative style told by the people who were there just the Garcia and Bill Graham books he wrote. Happy huntin'!


Posted on Thu Dec 13 14:05:21 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

I read somewhere that Mick Jagger's new album has sold only about 900 copies....is that true. Boy, the times sure are a'changin'. Read the "Rick" interview, didn't everybody already know all that?


Posted on Thu Dec 13 13:50:09 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp68654.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.186.19)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

Hi Hank! Here's what Louuuuuu Reed thinks about rockin out until ya no longer can get your groove on........in LOU REED......ROCK AND ROLL HEART.....THE DEFINITIVE FILM ON ONE OF ROCK'S MOST LEGENDARY POP ICONS......

Inteviewer: How long can you be in rock and roll?

Louuuuuu: Well, see.....the problem disappears if we don't call it rock and roll.

Interviewer: How long can you be a musician?

Louuuuuu: Right, what would the answer be?

Interviewer: Until you die.

Louuuuuu: There you go.......

Hank.....what can I say?.....Louuuuuu's mind and music will continue to rock my world until the day that I check out......

Many thanks again Norbert for including Louuuuuu with his red guitar at Bowie's 50th Birthday Party at MSG in your Birthday wishes to me......as well as all my fave musicians......The web page you created just for me.....was simply brilliant!.....Maybe instead of an engineer......you could be a webmaster!!!!


Posted on Thu Dec 13 13:42:16 CET 2001 from spider-tp011.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.176)

Calvin

While I agree in principle that the music industry certainly doesn't care if say N-Sync is selling a single record 5 years from now as long as somebody is, blaming them for the deaths of Eddie Cochrane, Buddy Holly and Jeff Buckley is a bit over the top. Heck, blaming them for Hendrix or Cobain is a bit much. Military/Entertainment Complex? Those are 2 industries hardly related-some of the wire services recently reported the Bush team met with several studio heads to offer guidelines on what type of movies to make and what they shouldnt include in films, to their credit-although Im sure profit motivation was a major factor, the politely told the goverment where they could put it. I tend to consider "Across the Great Divide" a more accurate bio of the Band, as compared to "Wheels of Fire" as Divide has no qualms about showing the bad with the good, doesnt have an axe to grind against one of the principles, and doesnt care about telling his story. Not that Levon's book isnt accurate, much like any history book it is accurate from the writer's perspective-which would seem to be mush more colored that Hoskyn's.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 12:16:59 CET 2001 from dialup-333.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.77)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

The Military-Industrial-Entertainment Complex wot rules The World LOVES to Eat and Exploit young human flesh.......Buddy Holley, Eddie Cochrane, Jimi Hendrix, Brian Jones, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, Tim and Jeff Buckley......all eaten by the machine and digested and shat out in the form of books, records, movies......that's why it's great that Bob Dylan, Levon Helm and the Rolling Stones continued on like their bluesmen heros.....Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker kept playing till they dropped....... so what? Why retire because some writer decides you're passe....so what if you're passe in someone elses view?.......do what you wanna do and do it well I say........"young , old....it don't matter much in the end...."

I've been busy gigging that's why I have not been posting so much.....but Happy Birthday BEG......what you wrote about LOVE, IMAGINATION and MUSIC......was Beautiful!.......and Hey! Pat Brennan!.....Lowell George would'nt let Mick and Keith jam with him 'cos he was coked outta his mind.....don't get me wrong, I LOVE Little Feat and Lowell.....and there's a great picture of Lowell with Mick and guys from The Doobie Brothers I saw recently.........but it's too easy to knock The Rolling Stones.......I prefer to see what their next album of new material will be like.......no matter who you are, you're really only as good as your last record.......I enjoyed Voodoo Lounge.....more than "Bridges to Babylon".

"Bill?....Bill?......Bill?" "Back to Memphis" on "To Kingdom Come".........real or no?.....some debate here.......I can accept that they probably overdubbed it, but, Jaysus, that's gotta be Levon playing and singing it live........just the drums and vocals at least.......Anyone?


Posted on Thu Dec 13 06:32:08 CET 2001 from 1cust21.tnt2.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.25.9.21)

jeffrey

Interesting point John. Although I must say,I enjoyed Hoskyns commentary in "The Band" Classic albums video and his book for that matter,despite some of the perhaps well founded crticisms of it.It seems to me percentage wise his book was reasonably accurate though I admit to having forgotten "key"issues discussed frequently in these pages.Certainly , it doesn't seem like there's enough to be ashamed of????????? How much does the book go for?---Rollie


Posted on Thu Dec 13 05:05:06 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

I was just given a very expensive gift tonight. I would never have bought it myself; but hey now I can enjoy it. It's the coffee table book of The Atlantic Records Story. The pictures are unbelievable.

I only bring this up because one of the contributing editors is Barney Hoskyns. What's so strange about that? There is a bio on each contributor; with their collected works over the years. When it gets to Hoskyns it lists his books and magically the biography of The Band is NOT there. An oversight or is Barney bitter about the post comments and about the situation in general. Any thoughts Mr. Viney?


Posted on Thu Dec 13 04:30:12 CET 2001 from as3-1-111.hip.berkeley.edu (136.152.194.33)

Dave Hopkins

From: Berkeley, CA

The Levon interview's interesting too. "I voted to call it the Crackers. I'm no fool." Hee hee...

David Powell: Why do I get the feeling the intials BD and GH are going to show up a lot in those best-of-2001 lists? (And rightfully so, of course.)

JTull Fan: Not to nitpick with you, but the guys who got arrested are with the Jewish Defense League, a radical anti-Arab organization, NOT the ADL.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 04:28:47 CET 2001 from spider-tp082.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.212)

JohnG

From: Long Beach NY

Can someone lead me to the Rick interview site that everyone is talking about. I can't find the original thread. I did manage to catch him once in the mid 70's at "My Fathers Place" in Roslyn, Long Island. Funky and rolling, but it looked like he had one too many that night,,got lost in the middle of 2 numbers, but he was still great. Thanks, John


Posted on Thu Dec 13 02:45:39 CET 2001 from spider-wm024.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.159)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond
Web page

I agree that it is a bummer that the Robbie/post-Richard Band reunion never happened. Calvin: Re the Thick As A Brick commercial, check out Ian's comments on it on the above link. You will have to click on 'Latest News' and scroll a bit but, about 2 pages in, there is plenty of commentary from Ian on it. RE: Sick of War. Can't really dispute those comments. As necessary as some wars may be only a fanatic wishes them to go on forever. Speaking of which, I shake my head in disgust at the Jewish Anti-Defamation League fanatics who were arrested for plotting to blow up mosques in Southern California. Jew or Palestinian, who cares? After all the has transpired since 9/11, that some sickos can still think in these terms is mind-boggling and depressing.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 02:12:15 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta083.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.58)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

After reading the Rick interview, i was wondering what nuggets were left off Jericho. In fact i wonder how much stuff has been recorded over the years by those guys that has never made it to press. I would love to have heard more Stan Szelest tracks. I saw the post LW Band about 5 times before Jericho was released -both before and after Richard - i don't ever recall Stan playing with them - it's not to say he didn't when i saw them - but i don't recall it. I also wonder if any of those early post LW shows were recorded. While i'm rambling, I wonder if any of the Carnegie Shows were recorded. Those were great shows! Hell! I'm hoping for a post LW Box Set. Lots of live nuggets with Richard - smathering of their best songs from the last three cd's - a bunch of Alt. takes and lots of covers and originals that are still in the vault


Posted on Thu Dec 13 00:59:57 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

Let's hope as this year ends the war will end. I've had enough. Revenge is chocolate sweet; but my teeth are in decay.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 00:38:13 CET 2001 from m198214182084.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.182.84)

Pehr

enjoyed the tribute article to Rick by Gary Alexander. Thanks for sharing.


Posted on Thu Dec 13 00:09:40 CET 2001 from spider-loh-tf033.proxy.aol.com (195.93.50.163)

tony

From: uk

hi to you all. i am from the james taylor web site and have a question of relevence to both parties.am i in the correct area,or do i need directing to another place? forgive my ignorance. tony


Posted on Wed Dec 12 23:57:29 CET 2001 from spider-te033.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.188)

Calvin

Sorry, I swear this is it. I'm right with you Bob about the silliness of holding people to opinions they gave 25 years ago, But Robby has always said he didn't want to be part of a nostalgia tour, possibly even since the possibility of a tour surfaced. I think I'd like to believe that only an album was planned. And Pat the Grossman rocker as an artist is an intersting thread, its funny though that his prize musician Dylan has never bought into it, I love the Im just a song and dance man quote, and he's the one who probably has the most right to buy into it.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 23:51:56 CET 2001 from spider-te033.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.188)

Calvin

Sorry about that, anyway-John Straughsbaugh, a writer from the NY press has a new book out called "Rock to Your Drop" a fairly mean-spirited attack on rockers who want to play past 35. His Premise is summed as "Rock simply should not be played by 55 year old men with triple chins wearing bad whighats, pretending to still be excited about playing songs they wrote 30 years ago and have played thousands of times since, didnt any of these people see Spinal Tap." Then he spends the rest of the book trashing specific people. Hands down the new champion of self-absorbed, short cited, age obsessed idiots has to be this clown.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 23:35:01 CET 2001 from spider-ti021.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.181)

Calvin

Dont get me wrong guys, I've gone to see RIck, Levon and the reformed Band as much as I possible could but I would have loved to see them with Robbie, and more to the point, would have loved new material. I can't be the only one who listen's too RR first album or Storyville and thought, that song would have been so perfect for Levon or Rick-or though, wouldnt a Garth organ part be perfect here. It's just that part of respecting RR-at least for me, is that he has stuck to his guns and convictions no matter what, I respect that. And yes, I am aware that at the LW the idea was to stay together as a studio outfit, too bad it didnt work out. Someone mentioned about Musicians not losing something like athletes, there is a new book out


Posted on Wed Dec 12 23:30:49 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Web page

David Powell....I hear you loud and clear....I was just watching the video of "Things Have Changed" today.

Some things are too hot to touch

The human mind can only stand so much

You can't win with a losing hand.

I will begin compiling a list of the songs I couldn't live without in 2001. There are SO many times in my life that I could not have survived without the healing power of music. When the everyday motion of life gets too familiar....there is always something new and exhilarating in the music. Life is so much sweeter...I can't imagine how anyone could be without it. The most treasured sights and sounds to me are my children....dancing, singing and clapping their hands. I wish the whole world could know the magic. Thanks for the reminder, Mr. Powell.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 21:40:51 CET 2001 from spider-wp061.proxy.aol.com (205.188.201.201)

Amy

From: Ohio

I am a big Band fan, but I havent been able to see them yet. I have seen Bob Dylan several times and have many Band Cd's with and without Bob. All are rockin'! Please keep me informed on where they are playin so I can see them. Any suggestions on how I can get back stage or front row tickets? I just made a tape with songs to help deal with the Sept. 11th tragedys as a xmas present for friends. I put "tears of rage" on it. Well thanks and add me to the mailing list. Your sister, amy


Posted on Wed Dec 12 21:40:52 CET 2001 from dialup-65.56.135.94.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (65.56.135.94)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Calvin, although the Rick interviewer does state album and tour, I had understood that the "reunion" was strictly for an album. Of course, RR talked at the time of some kind of theatrical staging of the album. Too bad. They had signed a deal with Warner Brothers to continue to record after the Last Waltz but obviously that never happened. And I doubt there's anyone here who wouldn't have loved to hear the four of them sing and play those songs.

I'm fascinated by this "serious artist" thing. It was a Grossman paradigm that his artists put on some kind of serious air to manipulate the media. There's no doubt that the boys went along with it, but it was probably RR who got involved in the nuts and bolts of the operation. Did the group benefit from this approach? Undoubtedly. Did people within the group rebel against this? Probably.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 21:40:04 CET 2001 from spider-wc081.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.56)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa USA

Calvin,

For all we know Geffen may not have had Robbie's approval when they "floated" the idea. It's more likely that Robbie was involved as he would be the obvious key component to getting it off the ground. The chronology also suggests that this was happening well in advance of Levon's and Hoskyns' books and probably seemed far more viable at that time.

I, for one, would have been at the front of the line for tickets as would ninety nine percent of the visitors to this site. It's not football. Great musicianship is a life long gift and, short of having Richard back, I'm willing to bet the store that those shows would have been top shelf.

Robbie's comments on the touring subject are now twenty five years old. At the time of the interview seventeen years had passed. Things change and money talks louder than ever. I wish to hell they would have done it.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 21:27:55 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

From: CT

Calvin: Robbie has always been willing to play with the Band. His intention with The Last Waltz was stricly related to touring. He hoped they would continue recording and doing various projects together, but the other guys felt differently. They missed playing in front of people and cared less about making a "statement", which is what Robbie is more interested in doing. You can't blame either side for doing what they wanted to do.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 21:01:59 CET 2001 from (209.166.233.21)

Jon Lyness

From: New York City

This just in! Joining Levon & the Barnburners/Professor Louie & Crowmatix at Tribeca Blues, NYC this Saturday night...none other than Mr. Garth Hudson. (Please note that start time is now advertised as 10 pm, not 9 pm.) Will be there even if I have to crawl...


Posted on Wed Dec 12 21:00:24 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-th054.proxy.aol.com (64.12.102.44)

Calvin

I wasn't the least surprised at what Rick said in that interview Tull. I think Robby does take himself very seriously as an "artist", too seriously, in a way the others didn't, not that their musical efforts were any less valid. Rick saying well Im friends with RR but sometimes..... Seemed to me the exact attitude I had read between the lines in prior Rick interviews. I was however very surprised, and a bit disapointed, that RR had contacted them about putting the Band back together and going on tour-I always greatly respected RR for being one of the few guys that knew when to get off the road and maybe go while the goings good, that he was willing to go on the nostalgia tour when he always swore he wouldnt, well, that saddens me. BTW, I heard Thick as a Brick, instrumental version, on a car commercial last night.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 20:17:45 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

"People are crazy and times are strange
I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range
I used to care, but things have changed"

"I've been walking forty miles of bad road
If the bible is right, the world will explode..."

As the end of this tumultuous year approaches, it's normally the time to assess the annual harvest of crops and occurance of events. This year, as the world around us seems to be going to hell, our culture and way of life is threatened by evil forces. Even our music is under attack in certain cirlces. It seems that many followers of the prophet Muhammad disapprove of those of us who succumb to the worldy pleasures of music & song. As part of the intolerance bred by their religious fervor, there are those who follow these tenets:

"On the Day of Ressurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress...Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage."

Well, all I can say is "Start pouring baby, 'cause you're not taking my music away from me. Crank up the volume and while you're at it, pass the herbage."

Against this backdrop of insanity, as the year 2001 draws to a close, the solace of music takes on a new significance for music lovers everywhere. It's time to assess & list the essential recordings and live performances of 2001, the first real year of the new millenium. So for all you potential "lead heads" here in the guestbook, the call goes out to prepare your lists of essential music from 2001, despite the risk you may face on judgment day.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 20:10:56 CET 2001 from unprovisioned.centrivity.net (64.23.165.18)

Jtull Fan

From: Richmond

Time to 'shake' the GB; it's got a bug.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 19:43:03 CET 2001 from (130.219.229.173)

BK

From: nj

sounds suspiciously like a terrorist to me.

Dave- The Barnburners play smokin' blues and R&B, mostly classic stuff, some lesser known. When I saw them last, they did no Band songs. (Levon's not singing right now), and at that time had no original tunes, although maybe they do now.

What they do, they do great! You should definetely check them out when they come around.


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Posted on Wed Dec 12 14:31:55 CET 2001 from unprovisioned.centrivity.net (64.23.165.18)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Wow, great Rick interview. I agree, mucho threadisimo material here. Didn't expect him to say those things about Robiie in the manner he did.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 08:18:27 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp68490.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.185.109)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

How to dominate reality.......LOVE......is one way.......IMAGINATION........is another way........and MUSIC........is still another way.........I have been seriously listening to music since I was eight years old..........:-D (Thijs from Sjako! introduced me to this cool happy face)

WHOLE LOTTA THANKS TO MY FAMILY.......STUDENTS........and FRIENDS who made this one of the best Birthdays ever!...............And to my CYBER FRIENDS......who took the time to post best wishes such as......Norbert, Thijs, Cupid, Amanda, Ilkka, Dave ZZZZZZZZZ.........and to those who sent me E greeting cards and BIRTHDAY messages such as.......Crabster, Calm, Pat Brennan, Mr. Maximus, Donna, Eb, and Kalervoooooooooo.......PEACE AND FRIENDSHIP.......


Posted on Wed Dec 12 07:47:32 CET 2001 from 11-pool1.ras11.ohclv.tii-dial.net (206.148.88.11)

Liz Yaya

From: Here there and every where

Hi folks, I just tried to sing the harmony ( Ricks parts) on "The Weight" at 'Open Mic' night at Milestones, once again, here in Rochester, Imagine that,

everybody said I did ok, I know Im a day late , but with me, haaa what else is new? It was good, I had two helpers and this was right after Shawn Phillips show at the same Venue !

a great show too, Im sure you will all be interested in Shawn's new CD, one of the things about our open Mic night that impressed me most was the 'Dady Brothers' doing " It Must be Christmas" fiddle and guitar perfectly what a great song Rick wrote ! Happy Christmas.. smiles Huggs and love... and Play on Keep Listening, Liz xxx


Posted on Wed Dec 12 04:45:38 CET 2001 from dialup-63.208.67.228.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.208.67.228)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Dang it, Hank, I've been waiting for you. Didn't some of those estimable characters you listed have to, uhhh, sue the Stones for, errrr, plagiarism? Or was that Led Zeppelin? Yeah, who was it that said, "They all want to play the blues real bad, and they do." The Band's friend if I'm not mistaken. And then there's Lowell George who refused to open for the Stones, because, hey, his group was like a thousand times better. Shoot, I'm sorry. I know people here like the Stones. I'm not questioning your taste. Honest.

On a lighter note, everyone should read the new Rick interview that Jan just posted. Enough thread material to last into the new year.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 04:28:29 CET 2001 from dialup-376.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.120)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

I played the intro of "The Weight" 'round the house here the other day and my 13 year old son said "That's 'The Weight', isn't it?".......I said 'yeah.....' he sez "Is it called 'The Weight' 'cos it's 'take a load off Annie?'....."

Kids ask the darndest things.....

Tonight we played "Stagefright", "It makes no difference" and "King Harvest"........great gig.......We USED to do "Rag Mama Rag" but the fiddle player wasn't there tonight........

Willie Dixon, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, BB King, Bo Diddley, Howlin' Wolf, Hubert Sumlin, Gram Parsons, Bob Dylan, Levon Helm, The Beatles......and on and on.....will all tell you how great The Rolling Stones were and are.........and how The Stones almost single-handedly turned a whole generation of Americans on to the blues and real American musical styles.......It does'nt matter what they do from now on....if it's good, it's a bonus......if it's not.....so what?.....they've only neen at it 40 years, anyway...........

Where are all the new Rolling Stones now?........The Sex Pistols, Guns and Roses, The New York Dolls, The Stone Roses, The Quireboys.....and on and on.....what good are those groups for now, praytell, anyone? Fair enuff, Areosmith got kinda better than they were and are still doin' it, apparently......it'll be interesting to see if the Stones are up to competing with the new Dylan album.....a tough one to top or equal..........


Posted on Wed Dec 12 04:14:03 CET 2001 from spider-ti063.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.203)

Dave

I have a question,do Levon Helm an the Barn Burners play Band songs, or originals?


Posted on Wed Dec 12 02:21:04 CET 2001 from spider-ti083.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.213)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Charlie Hawker = I think that you posted the most interesting statement on "the feud" that I've seen in ages. I didn't realize that "All La Glory" was about RR's kid - it's one of my favorite Band songs. What a great point you made though in your post.

It really is ridiculous that John and Paul didn't go into the HOF at the same time. Why? Did John get in right away because he was murdered? Wrong reason. Without even comparing the two of them - Paul did, from 1970, to 1980, two albums where he played everything, started a band from scratch, and made it hugely successful, recorded albums in Africa, New Orleans, in a castle, on a boat - he pulled his most successful album (Band on the Run) off after half of his band left suddenly. He mounted a world tour, did charity stuff (Kampuchea, Prines Trust). Recorded a record selling single (Mull of Kintyre). I'm sure I missed a few things, but why the hell did they kind of slap him in the face like that at the HOF?


Posted on Wed Dec 12 01:43:37 CET 2001 from spider-wa062.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.47)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Driving home from work tonight I had on Public Radio on and between news segments heard some interesting notes; Garth Hudson's new CD!They then said something to the effect 'of where have all the multi instrumentalists gone? We'll tell you about the Band's Garth Hudson and what he is doing now this saturday at 8pm on (something-something)'.


Posted on Wed Dec 12 00:05:44 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

From: Toronto
Web page

I do this every year; but to no avail. I direct your attention to the web page link above. If it were not for Cosimo Mattasa; there would not be a NEW ORLEANS SOUND. No Fats, Little Richard, Dave Bartholomew, Shirley and Lee, Aaron Neville..........and on and on and on. The fact that this man has not been inducted into the Hall is a sham and a shame. Please read this article of a few years back on a man who revolutionized the music business in New Orleans. If fact, HE WAS THE MUSIC BUSINESS IN NEW ORLEANS. Without Cosimo there would be no New Orleans Music Memories. I've met him and he is the most humble and kind man I may have ever met. Robbie Robertson is on that board and he knows who he is. I hope I don't have to keep doing this until it's too late.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 23:21:52 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Charlie: Although Ms. Harris hasn't been named to the Country Music Hall of Fame yet, she was inducted as a member of the Grand Ole Opry in 1992. That is a rather unique honor since the artist is awarded the right to take the stage and perform at the Opry on a regular basis, allowing the audience to witness an on-going, living showcase of the artist's talent. (A telling tale of just how ruthless the music business can be -- 1992 was the same year that Ms. Harris was "dropped" by Warner Brothers after a 20-year association.)

Muddy Waters was also inducted into the Blues Foundation's Hall of Fame in 1980.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 21:53:11 CET 2001 from (12.33.126.141)

John W.

From: NYC

Charlie Young - Levon signed his book for me at some bookstore in lower Manhattan. I brought along the liners from "Jericho" and the "Ringo" live CD and he signed those for me also. It brought a smile to his face and he said he had a real good time on that Ringo tour. He was real happy that day because he had just heard that "Remedy" was in the top 40 on the Canadian charts, he said it was the first Band single to make the charts in twenty-something years. I told him I loved the new album, but I would have liked to see "I Finally Got You" on it. He said "Well we have to remember that for the next album". Finally did come out on the "Souvenier" disc with the Crowmatix and Levon. Miss you Rick.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 21:47:13 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

OK: I checked and I'm sorry to report that Emmylou Harris is NOT a member of the Country Music Hall of Fame while Neil Diamond IS an inductee of the Songwriters Hall of Fame (of course so is Carly Simon but not Robbie!). I guess it's like someone said, such groups are pretty political and bogus by their very nature.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 21:36:40 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

From: CT

Charlie Hawker: Nice post about Levon, Robbie and "All La Glory". I have always thought of those two as brothers, and prefer to think of happier times. I agree it would be nice to bury the hatchet. In a similar vein, I always thought it was nice that Paul wrote "Hey Jude" for Julian Lennon when his parents were breaking up. Julian was actually one of Paul's guests when Paul was inducted to the Hall of Fame a few years ago.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 21:25:00 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

David: I guess that Emmylou is a member of the Country Music Hall of Fame and Neil Diamond may well be a member of the Songwriters Hall of Fame (I don't know much about those two organizations).

Does anyone know if Levon ever did any bookstore autograph appearances for his book? Apparently Paul McCartney did one in Manhattan recently and signed copies from that event (of his "Blackbird Singing" lyric and poetry collection) are already selling for over $200 on Ebay. Meanwhile Amazon still has copies of the special signed, limited edition of that book for $250. There were only 250 copies produced. George Harrison had 2,000 copies of his autobiography ("I Me Mine") bound in leather that he signed and numbered. There's one for sale on Ebay right now that is already approaching $1,500 with several days of bidding yet to go.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 20:44:11 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Correction to my previous post: The Beatles were inducted to the HOF in 1988. Lennon & McCartney were inducted as individual artists in 1994 and 1999 respectively.

Eric Clapton, technically I guess, can be considered a three-time inductee for his involvement with the Yardbirds, who were inducted in 1992. Should Neil Young also be considered a three-time honoree, in lieu of his involvement with CS&N?


Posted on Tue Dec 11 19:52:11 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Regarding the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame thread -- It's interesting to note that the majority of artists who performed at The Last Waltz have already been inducted into The Hall. Two of them have been inducted twice, both individually & as group members.

Here's the list of Hall of Fame Waltzers (in chronological order):

Muddy Waters 1987 (in the second year of The HOF)
Bob Dylan 1988

(Cameo waltzers) Ringo Starr & Ron Wood as respective members of their groups the Beatles and the Rolling Stones ---both groups inducted in 1989

Van Morrison 1993
Eric Clapton's first induction, as a member of Cream, who were inducted in 1993
THE BAND!!! 1994
Neil Young's first induction, individually in 1995

Neil Young's second induction, as a member of Buffalo Springfield, who were inducted in 1997
Joni Mitchell 1997
(Neil Young's sometime cohorts, Crosby Stills & Nash, were also inducted as a group in 1997, garnering Stephen Stills two honors in the same year)

Band horn chart arranger Allen Toussaint was inducted, as a non-performer, in 1998, honoring his skills as a songwriter, producer/arranger & all around studio guru

Staple Singers 1999

Eric Clapton, for the second time, individually in 2000

Have I overlooked anyone? We know the HOF selection committee has.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 17:41:12 CET 2001 from stx32.library.uiuc.edu (130.126.32.133)

Susan

From: central Illinois

John D; as long as you are stuck at home waiting for delivery why not post some details of those Yonge Street memories. I love these little bits and pieces you all come up with. The resident guitar player in my house is trying to write his own musical memoirs in the local territory. These start around 1966; it is astonishing how much we can't remember of those days until there's some trigger, and then events come back.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 16:49:51 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

CODY

From: Florida

This season of light makes us all think about , giving.Rick, Richard,Garth,Levon and Robbie...Thanx! Thanx for giving me wisdom, for this lifetime.I will never forget.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 15:33:48 CET 2001 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

John D

From: Toronto, "Where It All Begun"

Two years plus a day since the passing of Rick. This morning I have the day off waiting for the UPS man and I'm listening to the remastered "Moondog Matinee." Memories of Yonge Street.......Le Coq'Dor Tavern....... and The Hawks. Everbody was young and looking to the future. Everybody got along. The passion was the music and The Band were still a few years away. Everybody was alive.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 15:32:57 CET 2001 from spider-te031.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.186)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Happy happy Brown Eyed Girl... Today I'm listening to DFA... Take care all...


Posted on Tue Dec 11 11:21:07 CET 2001 from ulab33.med.gu.se (130.241.86.163)

Markku (Quos)

Web page

The Band quiz: 3 points for yours truly. However, the statistician in me (which I happen to be, although I'm not working at the Institute of Inadequate Statistics) wants to give me a total of 4 points as I recognized picture 4 as well.

However, as I failed with pictures 1 and 3, what would be a reasonable punishment? Listen to all The Band records 5 times in a row?


Posted on Tue Dec 11 10:36:20 CET 2001 from hoiberg.hiof.no (158.36.51.55)

jh

Ilkka's dog,
Royaume de Norvège, une point. Norway, one point.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 09:15:53 CET 2001 from sdn-ap-004castocp1716.dialsprint.net (63.187.38.192)

Charlie Hawker

From: San Francisco Bay Area

I know I should have better things to do with my time than worry about whether or not Levon and Robbie are friends... but obviously I don't since I'm posting about it. Anyway I was listening to "All La Glory" the other day. That song just says so much about what kind of friends they must have been. For Robbie to write such a beautiful, personal song for his daughter and then entrust it to Levon to sing, which he does with so much tenderness and respect, it just breaks my heart to think that they could not be friends anymore. I know that I would certainly have a hard time letting someone sing a song I wrote for my daughter unless it was someone who I loved and cared for very much, I would also say that you can’t fake the kind of emotion and feeling that Levon delivers through that song. I hope someday they bury the hatchet. Life is too short.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 08:03:44 CET 2001 from du121-4.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.4.121)

Ilkka's Dog

Ooops! _Good_ morning (not 'God'). Sorry.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 08:00:28 CET 2001 from du121-4.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.4.121)

Ilkka's Dog

From: pink painted doghouse
Web page

God morning! Here comes the sun -la-la-la-la ... and the new Band quiz. Click on 'Web Page' and see if you still can call yourself for a Band expert. I post it today because every Birthday party _has_ to have a quiz. HAPPY BIRTHDAY BROWN EYED GIRL!


Posted on Tue Dec 11 07:50:25 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

11-12-2001 HAPPY BIRTHDAY ......BROWN EYED GIRL!

From: my land, your land, our land, lowlands
Web page

hallo, dame met de bruine ogen......
have a great day!.....click on the webpage above.....
Norbert


Posted on Tue Dec 11 07:13:24 CET 2001 from pool-63.52.230.98.ipls.grid.net (63.52.230.98)

Bobby Jones

From: Land of the Buckeyes

In the summer of 1983 I had the pleasure to witness a number of the reunion tour concerts. I was 22 then and for some reason, I reminded the Cates of their boys back home. It was from this vantage point I got to know Rick, Levon and Richard.

I'll never forget the way Rick would gently joke with people on this tour. My favorite rememberance was when the Band was playing Elmira College (at the time it was a all girls school). The dean asks if there anything he can do to make their stay more enjoyable. Rick hears this and replys, How about a dorm full of women for Richard, he sings best when he's tired. Then turns towards Richard and say's, Are you tired? Richard looks at Rick with puzzled look and said, No? Rick looks back at the dean with a boyish smile and say's and I'd like some water.

These three men touched my life in many ways and I always be indebted to them.

Thank you RICK


Posted on Tue Dec 11 07:05:19 CET 2001 from 0-1pool220-6.nas33.somerville1.ma.us.da.qwest.net (63.159.220.6)

Jake

From: Rhode Island

I don't write much in the guestbook anymore, but I feel compelled to say something about Rick Danko on the second anniversary of his passing. I was lucky enough to see some Danko acoustic shows in some intimate venues in Clinton, New Jersey. I even had the pleasure of talking with him for a while after the shows about music. To this day, I can think of few, if any who have a more unique singing voice in rock n' roll. Rick never tried to sound like anybody else (O.K., maybe the great Sam Cooke on occasion, a voice worthy of an attempt at imitation), and he sang with such conviction and feeling in each line. His sense of harmony was nothing short of amazing. He didn't simply dress the lead voice, he drove it to heights it would not otherwise attain, whether singing with Helm and Manuel or Fjeld and Anderson. Rick's voice went straight through you. I remember that the night he died I had picked up my guitar and figured out "Book Faded Brown", a song that for me, was one of the real highlights of "Jubilation". The next afternoon, I think it was a Friday, I checked the site and saw the picture and the "In memory" header. It took the breath out of me. I will miss the man, and the opportunity to sit in front of him in an intimate setting while he plays and sings his heart out, but I will be sure to play his music in honor of one of the great talents in rock n'roll.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 05:23:29 CET 2001 from proxy3-external.vron1.nj.home.com (24.4.252.86)

Rose

From: Jersey City, NJ

Rest in peace, Rick. I will never forget the first time I heard "It makes no difference". It still brings a tear to my eyes even 19 years later. I was lucky enough to see Rick and the guys play in the early 80's at the Capital Theater in Passaic, NJ. It was really a thrill of a lifetime. My only regret is that I was too shy to approach him for an autograph. My sympathy to the Danko family.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 05:17:46 CET 2001 from spider-to034.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.59)

Rob

From: Cleveland Ohio

Hi. This is my first visit. I'm 18 years old and i just started listening to the band. You probably all already know this but ill say it anyway. My favorite band of all time (counting crows) are coming out with another album in late spring/early summer of 2002. On the new album will be a great song called "Richard Manuel is Dead". i was listeningt to a recent bootleg of a live show and nevermind ill just give you the link, but theres a great story behind the song. www.annabegins.com click on sounds, then click on new songs . thanks good music listeners. BYE


Posted on Tue Dec 11 04:46:58 CET 2001 from dialup-63.215.113.34.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.215.113.34)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Calvin, "fight" was too harsh a word. I meant it in a collegial way. Fact is, I've engaged in this Stones thing before (Hank??) and I'm really not trying to change anyone's opinion.

It's really something to visit the GB from two years ago today. The outpouring is mind-boggling.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 04:42:52 CET 2001 from spider-tm022.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.52)

Calvin

I don't know how many Jazz fans we have in here, but I thought I'd take a second to relate something. In Downbeat-The Magazine of Jazz, Blues and Beyond-and for my money the preeminent Jazz magazine of the last 50+ years, list at the end of the year, as many publications do, the years best albums. Of the 8 Albums that received their 5 Star rating, or as they say "deemed masterpieces, essential CDs that belong in every collection," The Brown Album reissue makes it. A jazz magazine rates the reissue as one of the top 8 albums of the year, quite an honor. Of the 41 albums that received 4 1/2 stars, Rock of Ages and Big Pink. In these 49 albums in the not Jazz, Blues category only Curtis Mayfield, Bob Marley, Los Lobos and the boys show up.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 04:39:40 CET 2001 from spider-wa052.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.42)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

If you want to put a guy in the RRHOF for being a brilliant musician, an innovative player, an extremely respected man at his craft, a MAJOR part of his band's sound, an influence on those who follow him, a true original - put in Garth Hudson.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 03:56:45 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Brown Eyed Girl:

May joy be your best friend.

May wonder always find its way to your doorstep...

May happiness brighten all your days.

Thanks for being a friend to me.

Keep on Rockin'!!!

Happy, Happy Birthday!!!


Posted on Tue Dec 11 03:15:41 CET 2001 from dv007s40.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.40.7)

Ray Pence

From: Casper Wyoming

Two years ago when Rick died I was stunned into an emptiness I could fill only with listening to Band that bordered on the obsessive for the next year or so. I witnessed his joyous genius just once in person, at the Rainbow Music Hall in Denver Colorado, November 1983, with the reformed Band including of course, Richard. But that one time has never faded from my memory one bit--I can still see and hear him now, and Richard too.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 03:13:22 CET 2001 from (24.69.255.202)

Cupid

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BROWN EYED CABBAGETOWN GIRL!!!!! see I remembered..hugs and love ya Cupid


Posted on Tue Dec 11 02:51:24 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tl022.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.157)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

Just thinking.., In 2012, I'm laying even money on this artist being inducted into the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame - it's easy...,


Posted on Tue Dec 11 02:35:14 CET 2001 from akcf1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.202)

Rod

From: NZ
Web page

I'll always remember Rick as I first saw him - playing bass with The Band on The Last Waltz. Most other bass players I'd seen with bands in the 70's looked kind of dorky and were usually stuck down the back with the drummer. Not Rick he was cool.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 01:53:32 CET 2001 from node-c-4235.a2000.nl (62.194.66.53)

Thijs Vermeulen

From: Netherlands

Dear Angie I like to wish you a very happy birthday and a very long and happy life from all the members of Sjako! and especially from me. Keep on going and continue your positive being!! Thijs V. ps: xxxxxxx


Posted on Tue Dec 11 01:39:33 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tc034.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.164)

Nick

From: Virginia

Thanks for the Rick stories. He was definitely full of soul and is sorely missed. Left behind some great work though. Just to eliminate the perception of any confusion...The Stones were inducted into the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame on Jan., 16th 1989. Pete Townshend did the honors. They'll be on tour again in 2002 refusing to grow old gracefully because it wouldn't suit them! Long live the Stones! They can still outrock anybody.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 01:25:41 CET 2001 from dv037s47.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.47.37)

Dexy

Web page

Yes, folks, the Stones were inducted into the Rock Hall in 1989 (see link above). World music, Bangladesh, solo its plus Wilburys (and Pythons) do it for me. Like everything, it's all subjective in the end, but ROBBIE -- get your pal on the ballot.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 01:23:13 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind P.Richardson

From: Rain City

Strange thing about this group of these five men you talk about here, there are some bands that come and go almost instantly, and there are some that affect us for a few years, and then there is The Band. I have a feeling everyone agrees that there will never be, even if this world stands another century, a group of fella's that will affect us in the same way....it hurts to lose them one by one like we are...they take with them part of our childhoods, I used to listen to The band late at night when I was suppose to be sleeping to get ready for another school day....then on the bus going to school in the morning I would hear them singing and playing for me in my head....everyone always wondered why I never said much.....I never told them, I knew they would ask "who's That"...and I wouldn't know how to explain how they didn't sound like any of them had ever heard before. I didn't want to share my treasure with anyone, I couldn't stand anyone laughing at The Band, because I was protective and jealous..I kept them locked in my heart..like they were only for me. Of course, I was 15 years old then. Now I see a young person on the verge of something. complaing how rotten todays music is and how he can't find anything that satisfies, and I make him a copy of "The Brown Album" and tell him to open his heart up and feel it...maybe he'll feel what I felt and it will change his life too.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 01:20:30 CET 2001 from spider-wn071.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.181)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Been resisting posting about Rick Danko because I prefer to remember him not for the day he passed but for all that preceded it. Oh well, now I have to jump in. I've enjoyed all your stories and wished I had met him. I had numerous chances, having seen the Band a dozen plus times in the 90's at various small clubs, some of which Rick could be spotted in parts of the club etc. Many shows I stood at the stage, close enough to shake his hand. I just chose to respect his space and privacy, not wanting to make him feel uncomfortable. Maybe I should have introduced myself. Oh, well. My loss. BOB WIGO: I'm psyched to see your BB King Christmas post. So glad to see someone else appreciate this great work. I heard he was supposed to be on Larry King (no relation) tonight. RE: RRHOF: I've never had a great interest in this place (ARE THE STONES REALLY NOT IN IT?), mainly because I see it as a popularity contest. True, I would enjoy seeing it but I wouldn't cry if I never do. Artists like the Beatles, The Band, and the rest of the great ones belong in the Smithsonian, if they are to be done a real honor someday. RRHOF is fine for those who may enjoy it, but to me it seems like a big Hard Rock Cafe sans food.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 01:09:05 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp71562.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.197.133)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

Ridin'On The Blinds
It Makes No Difference
Canadian Band Member From Simcoe, Ontario, Canada
Knowing Chuckle

Dynamic Musician
Affable
Needed To Make And Share Music
Keen To Connect With His Fans
ONE MORE SHOT........


Posted on Tue Dec 11 00:53:36 CET 2001 from dialup-63.210.210.2.dial1.newyork1.level3.net (63.210.210.2)

MIKE DOEBBLER

From: AVALON ARCHIVES ROCK & ROLL MUSEUM

Still think of Rick every day and often recollect speaking with Garth the evening of Rick's passing. Garth was performing that evening and during an intermission we spoke. "Garth I'm very sorry about Rick he was a great person and he will always be remembered . Yea, said Garth did you know him.I met him several times and he was my favorite musician I told Garth. I believe that your music will stand the test of time like Beetoven I said and then I asked Garth how are you? Garth said I have been thinking about Rick today and I keep thinking about "WHISPERING PINES "I think that song will pass the test of time.We spoke a little longer and he tipped this coffee mug and smiled.I really believe that Garth had been speaking his mind to me that night and I will always remember my dear friend Rick for the joy that he gave us throught out his life.


Posted on Tue Dec 11 00:20:07 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Last night, after reading Bear's sweet post about Rick, I did a Rick Danko Internet search. It turned out to be huge, with about 6,000 matches. I came across a great article by Gary Alexander. A wonderful line in the article was..."Peter Pan never let go of Rick. He always had the innocently conniving earnestness of a kid lost in a desert town." I loved that line because I have always admired people that still see the innocence in the world...no matter their trials and tribulations. I didn't know Rick personally, nor did I ever get to see him perform live, but I definitely see that child like sparkle in his eyes, through videos and photographs.Mr. Alexander described how John Simon spoke of Rick...Simon said "people everywhere felt like they were among Rick's close friends. It was a strong and genuine attribute of his personality.Rick liked people."

Rick Danko is a one of a kind Rock Legend. I love hearing all the stories from everyone here about your experiences seeing him live and hugging him or shaking his hand. To all of you who were a personal friend....please keep sharing your stories with us....they are a pleasure to hear.

My regards to the Danko family.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 22:52:34 CET 2001 from du-tele3-131.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.131)

Peter Viney

First thoughts must be Rick Danko. RIP.

A heart warming story which indicates that there is still a place for ageing rock singers. After 25 years on the pub circuit, ex-King Crimson member Gordon Haskell (now 55) is tipped for the Christmas number one single in the UK. ‘How wonderful You Are’ is released on December 17th with advance orders of 150,000 after BBC Radio Two airplay. It seems Gordon borrowed £200 to get demos made, one was played just once on Radio Two – the result was an unprecedented number of requests, a 250,000 press run and a four album deal with East-West. Gordon has played the Dorset pub circuit for many years. I last saw him opening for Van Morrison at the Larmer Tree Festival this summer. The very best of luck to him.

I can’t believe the Rolling Stones AREN’T in the RRHOF. It makes a nonsense of it. Seek out UNCUT. There are two versions this month dedicated to 40 years of the Stones, each with different cover CDs featuring 16 or 17 Stones’ covers – including three ‘specially recorded on each’ – by artists like Ryan Adams, Lambchop, Handsome Family. The vote for the 40 best Stones records includes panellists Mick Jagger, Ron Wood and Bob Geldorf. It affirms that the Beggars Banquet- Let it Bleed- Exile on Main Street era was their best, but how odd to see Satanic Majesty’s tracks in the Top 15. It also confirms that Mick Jagger knows his own material. 8 of his Top 10 are correct!


Posted on Mon Dec 10 22:17:32 CET 2001 from a010-0345.burk.splitrock.net (63.255.172.91)

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

From: Madison,Wi
Web page

:(... I wish that all you were at The Boulevard Cafe last night. Thank you Professor "Louie",, & The Crowmatix with Mike Falzarano of Hot Tuna, who did wonderful Tribute show to honor the music of Rick Danko. We were very lucky here in the midwest to have these people grace our stages with the music that Rick loved to perform to us all. Here is a song that Mike Falzarano performed called "Last Train Out".While listening to this song I thought of Rick and I made this song my personal Tribute to him. Needless to say,it made me tear...

Last train out

All abroad, the conductor's saying, last train out.

Last train out, You don't need no ticket on the last train out. You just go down to the station, and you get on board. Leave your baggage on the platform, you don't need it anymore, on the last train out.

Last train out. Everything gonna be alright, on the last train out. Last train out, Everybody's safe and warm, on the last train out. You just go down to the station, and you get on board. Leave your baggage on the platform, you don't need it anymore, on the last train out.

Twenty-one coaches long and plush, Every hand that you're dealt is a Royal Flush. It comes into the station smooth as silk, shining like chrome, 'white as milk. Looking like an ancient statue carved out of stone. You get on board, and it will carry you home, the last train out.

Last train out, Everything's gonna be alright, on the last train out.

Last train out, You're never alone, on the last train out...

All my best to the Danko Family on this day...


Posted on Mon Dec 10 22:08:24 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

From: CT

Well, I can tell you who is NOT going to get in the RRHOF.....Michelle Shocked!

Those stories about her are so odd. She has a lot of nerve telling Taj and Levon what to do. What are her accolades anyway? She wasn't selling records when every female singer-songwriter were selling millions (Sheryl Crow, Shawn Colvin, Mary Chapin-Carpenter, etc) What is that John Hiatt line...."you were out of luck when luck was doing alright."


Posted on Mon Dec 10 21:38:08 CET 2001 from spider-wb053.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.173)

butch

From: bluesville

this friday ,,, in Asbury Park NJ The Stone Pony,,,

Levon Helm & The Barn Burners,,,,,the fellas always tear it up there,,,,,

&

SATURDAY NIGHT,, @ Tribeca Blues,,,,,in NYC one block from ground zero,,,

Levon's Blues Band with Pat & Chris & Lil Sammy Davis sitting in, & Jimmy Vivino

&

maybe SPECIAL GUESTS

gonna be fun ,, both nights,,,

dont miss these ,, the fellas are hot,, & Jeff Sarli on bass is a great addition,,,,

butch


Posted on Mon Dec 10 21:29:27 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

George Harrison had a great quote about the Stones shortly after being stabbed by the insane moron who broke into his home in the middle of the night a couple of years ago. In an apparent reference to his attack and the sadly similar 1980 murder of John Lennon, George quipped, "how come these things never happen to the Rolling Stones?" Even in his darkest hours, George kept his sense of humor--much like Lennon (and Rick Danko) for that matter...


Posted on Mon Dec 10 20:15:57 CET 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

The Rascals at least had the grace to shuffle off the stage before they became self-parodies. Unlike the Stones. Maybe there should be a Rock and Roll Hall of Grace?


Posted on Mon Dec 10 20:14:08 CET 2001 from m198214190216.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.190.216)

Pehr

Thanks Rick. Always and Always.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 20:05:49 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia
Web page

It was on December 10, 1970 that I first heard Rick Danko sing in concert with The Band at the old Municipal Auditorium in Atlanta. Little did I know that night, long ago, that twenty-nine years later, to the day, I would be mourning Rick's passing. Today, I'm not thinking about his untimely death, preferring instead to celebrate the great joy the man gave me through his music, in the time between those two December days and beyond.

It's December 10, 2001 -- a dreary, cool, rainy day here in Atlanta. This morning I made a point to walk by the site of that old auditorium, on the way back to the office from the courthouse. Georgia State University, a while back, converted the old structure into office space. Only the front lobby area of the building remains -- the back auditorium space was demolished to make room for a parking area. As I walked by this morning, I could hear & envision Rick singing the lead on "Stage Fright" and "Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever", as he did in that auditorium thirty-one years ago today. The man, who sang with his band, as well as the place where he stood on stage are both no longer with us on the physical plane. But as I walked by that site in the rain this morning, in my mind I could see & hear Rick singing, and I had to stop to wipe some moisture from the corner of my eye. No it wasn't a raindrop, but a tear, and the sound of that voice was still clear...

["Rocks Backpages" website has compiled a list of the top 100 "most heartbreaking records of all time". Rick's rendition of "It Makes No Difference" with The Band is #19 on the list. To view the top 50 from that list, click on the web page link I've added above.]


Posted on Mon Dec 10 19:51:38 CET 2001 from 222.good.net (209.54.25.222)

MattK

Don't put me in a frame upon the mantel
Before memories turn dusty old and gray
Don't leave me alone in the twilight
Twilight is the loneliest time a day

We miss you, Rick


Posted on Mon Dec 10 19:28:12 CET 2001 from (209.166.233.21)

Jon Lyness

From: New York City

Diamond Lil, nice post, and I had the same feelings about this site and guestbook two years ago...the sadness of Rick's loss was (however unintentionally) made worse by folks around me not really knowing who he was or "getting" how the death of someone you hardly knew can touch you so. In that time of loss, it was a blessing to have this virtual community to grieve, to begin to heal, and to celebrate his life.

Thank you, Rick. Your music continues to inspire, and the person you were continues to inspire. And no question whose music will be resounding "in my living room" tonight. :)


Posted on Mon Dec 10 18:39:22 CET 2001 from 1cust144.tnt1.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.28.242.144)

Jeffrey

Of the handful of "BIG" name artists I've had the opportunity to work with over the years, none was more down to earth or generous than Rick Danko.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 18:30:02 CET 2001 from pc209-193.library.uu.nl (131.211.209.193)

Bart

From: Utrecht, Netherlands

Two years later..oh can you see 'We're still one and the same, just you and me'


Posted on Mon Dec 10 18:29:03 CET 2001 from ppp300.ac1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.2.238)

Paul Godfrey

Rick Danko Lives

In our Hearts, Minds and in His Music


Posted on Mon Dec 10 18:20:05 CET 2001 from du251-3.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.3.251)

Ilkka

From: Nordic Countries
Web page

Rick Danko. On these pages I have learned that he was a man of great joy and great jokes. After gloomy Monday comes always a Happy ...errr... Tuesday ;-)


Posted on Mon Dec 10 17:17:46 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk074.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.54)

Calvin

Pat, the last think in the world I was looking for was a fight. And I myself don't think they have been relevant, the Stones that is, since around 1974, but I cant see the Rascals being more worthy of the HOF than them, but as Ive said my exposure to the Rascals is limited.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 17:16:05 CET 2001 from (24.159.101.164)

Don Pugatch

From: Roswell, Ga

As I listen to Rick's radio Woodstock this morning, I keep on smiling, and shedding a tear, smiling, the tear, and now smiling. I was so fortunate to meet Rick once, and want to relive that moment with everyone here. When The Band regrouped in the mid 90's, they toured and preformed at The Roxy Theater in Atlanta. Of course the four of my family all went and on the way to the concert, my wife and daughter had to go to the "Facilities" so my son and myself walked around to the back of the Roxy and there was Rick, standing in front of the bus, just being Rick. I walked up to Rick and introduced myself and Sean and asked Rick if we could take his picture with Sean. Rick, smiled, and said, "Let's all go inside the bus and take a picture inside" Well, almost wetting my pants, we went in, sat on the couch, Rick called Levon, he came and sat with us, and guess who took the picture, Butch Dener! Butch took about 4 shots, we could not stop thanking everyone and when we met up with my wife and daughter, they could not believe our encounter. Never will ever forget that magical evening and moment when I was touched by an angel.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 16:41:29 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta074.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.54)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Even if George doesn't get into the Hall for his solo stuff... a hundred years from now... he will hopefully be remembered from the Beatles... and vehicles will be in place for kids to easily find out more about his total contributions... maybe that's good enough... maybe not... And then I started to daydream about George and how he's doing on his new journey... and who's maybe helping him... so I go to the horoscope for somebody reborn on Dec. 10... and here's what I found... "Just because you take the intellectual high road doesn't make you a stick in the mud. Energize the masses with your brilliance. People who are stalled always appreciate a push to get them going, and you are just the person to push, cheer and bring a little enthusiasm and levity to a trying situation. Remember the philosophers of old were also the standup comics."... Anyway, I'd like to think that somebody like Rick... when he passes on to a new life somewhere else... gets better at what he does... so maybe George just had a super great joke played on him... and they are both laughing... Opps, I hope my rant doesn't come off the wrong way... if so, sorry... Now I'm gonna go get energized by some Danko tuneage myself... Take care...


Posted on Mon Dec 10 16:39:58 CET 2001 from dialup-166.90.87.152.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (166.90.87.152)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

RIP, RD.

Calvin, I didn't say the Rolling Stones don't deserve to be in a R&R HOF. I just said I'd put the Rascals in first. I find the Stones turgid and lyrically sophmoric. The Rascals swung and sang of humanity, freedom and justice. They also lived it. I play the Rascals often. I've haven't pulled out a Rolling Stones album in years. I know plenty of people here like the Stones and I'm not looking for a fight. I just have a different view of it.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 16:27:51 CET 2001 from spider-tj024.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.184)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa USA

So much happening here of late. The spontaneity has returned and is most welcome. Thanks Jan.

I have so many wonderful memories of Rick; The Bijou Cafe, The Band show in the park in Camden, the Opera House in Wilmington, the Tin Angel. These memories are as sweet as the soul that left them here. Bless you Rick.

Count my vote for The Rascals. Felix Cavaliere was the definition of a "blue eyed soul singer" and wrote some marvelous tunes. They still get plenty of play here.

If Ringo never makes the RRHoF on his own maybe he should be inducted into the drum salesmen's HoF. His appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show is said to have spurred an incredible spike in drum sales that was to last several years.

Although it has been mentioned here recently I must once more bring to your attention the new Christmas disc from B.B. King, "A Christmas Celebration of Hope". This recording is simply magnificent and I cannot recommend it strongly enough. It's fresh and energetic, B.B. is in great voice, his playing is inspired and the band is wonderful. Buying this disc will not only enhance your holiday season it will benefit the City of Hope research and treatment center. Mr. King has graciously donated all proceeds to benefit HIV/AIDS and Diabetes research. As a diabetic ( as is Mr. King ) I am most grateful for his kindness and this very special musical gift.

Rave on Hank Wedel, rave on. I love you for it !


Posted on Mon Dec 10 15:37:58 CET 2001 from dorms-034-232.bates.edu (134.181.34.232)

john

From: ny

it's been a long two years,

today, i will listen to rick's soul and music,

and there is no doubt i will shed many tears

thank you for your life and music rick, you have touched my life like no other musician has...god bless...

-John


Posted on Mon Dec 10 15:23:42 CET 2001 from plantlogic.com (209.195.208.11)

bassmanlee

From: DE, USA
Web page

Regarding George Harrison's qualifications for induction to the RRHOF, composer Phillip Glass from this Sunday's NY Times:

“We all naturally remember George Harrison as one of the cornerstones (but weren't they all?) of the late-20th-century phenomenon known as the Beatles. But for some, George... was an icon of another phenomenon, equally influential in shaping the music of today. I'm referring to the world-music culture, which, starting in the 60's, has become an inescapable aspect of our music life. George was among the first Western musicians to recognize the importance of music traditions millenniums old, which themselves had roots in indigenous music, both popular and classical. Using his considerable influence and popularity, he was one of those few who pushed open the door that, until then, had separated the music of much of the world from the West.” So Hank was right on the money.

See link above for complete article. (You may need to set up a log in.) Accompanying was a very sweet reminiscence by Ravi Shankar and splendid pic of George with his sitar.

Got a second listen to Leonard Cohen's Ten New Songs, which has been previously discussed here. A more personal tone to the lyrics than The Future. Gone is the dark menace, the Great Horny Beast, but engaging and touching all the same. I agree with previous comments regarding the somewhat cheesy and dated electronic arrangements. (Of course the worst to my ears is the synth bass! Geez, ya shoulda called me!) Once I get past that, I think it'll grow on me.

Hug Lil.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 15:12:32 CET 2001 from spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.23)

Kevin T.

From: Pittsburgh

I just had a curious thing happen. I started my workday with the first disc of Before The Flood and after it ended flipped on my local station and what comes on but Stage Fright. I guess it's a day to remember Rick. I've never been a big Christmas person and the passing of Rick was another in a long line of bad things I've seen during this holiday. I only hope that this holiday will be better for everyone. Long Live The Band!


Posted on Mon Dec 10 15:05:00 CET 2001 from dialup-280.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.24)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

No matter what way I look at it, Rick Danko brought me here.......his music and his passing brought me to this site and to meet, in cyberspace and in person, you folks. Thank you, Rick. In a way, the way I rant on here and argue and joke and have a laugh are sorta the things I always wanted to discuss with Rick Danko about The Band and the music I love and love to play. This GB is the closest we can get to a conversation with Rick Danko........Thank You, Jan!

Rick once said something like, "If you can't Save The World...Help out around the Neighbourhood"

We need to remember that now...........

Peace!


Posted on Mon Dec 10 14:53:40 CET 2001 from citrix3.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.8)

John Cass

From: VT

whats your thoughts on Joe Cocker's chance to make the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame???

I will always remember Rick Danko with a smile on his face and letting a bunch of young fans fans book him into a club in Rutland VT on 12-6-96 I was 22 at the time and we treated Rick like a king worked really hard in ripping a kitchen apart and putting in a full Band room where he and Aaron and Randy could hang out before the show. I remember being so nervious hopeing Rick would like the place and he came into the place and was just the nicest guy. You talk about a man who had no ego he was the star and he performed signed autographs I will never forget what he said before he left the stage. "he will sign a few autographs, shake a few hands, and slap a few asses" what a guy!!!


Posted on Mon Dec 10 14:37:37 CET 2001 from host-149.subnet-76.med.umich.edu (141.214.76.149)

Steve Knowlton

From: Ypsilanti

I think a lot of the dispute over the Rascals here has to do with the paradigms by which we lump certain acts. It seems that African-American acts (particularly soul acts) are typically judged by their singles output, while Caucasian groups are expected to have a series of strong albums to be considered important. The Rascals worked in the genre of soul music - they were even on the legendary Atlantic label, home of the Drifters, Aretha Franklin, Ben E. King, Ray Charles - and their entire career was focused on making great singles. Sure, they never had any epic concept albums (although "Once Upon a Dream" is plenty psychedelic) but that wasn't even something they aspired toward.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 14:14:12 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ti063.proxy.aol.com (64.12.101.178)

Calvin

Ya know Pat, your one of the posters who in matters of taste I seem to agree with %95 of the time, but I really don't see a defensable position when the argument is the Rascals belong in the HOF over the Stones. Granted I am unaware of the "social consciousness" you speak in the Rascals case-but I cant see it being so extreme as to tip the balance. Johnny Rivers isn't in the HOF? I suppose I knew that but choose to believe it wasn't true, that a recording artist and Producer with Rundgren's credentials isn't in their is ludicrous as well. WHen I used to play out more "Secret Agent Man" was always in one of our sets, no matter the age of the crowd it got the place rockin. I flipped on the radio 2 years ago to hear "It Makes No Difference" and was quite happy that a Band song was on the radio, I thought nothing of it as Rick had recently been to town. Then the news, I think I must have listened to Rick's for the next 3-4 days straight-I clearly hadn't ever felt a sense of loss for a musician as much as I had Rick, but he was my favorite guy in my favorite group-and I was convinced he was healthy and doing the best solo work of his life, recently a number of albums in the couple years previous that are still heavy in my CD rotation. I suppose it just boils down to this-Thanks for the music Rick. I developed a lot of my playing style from listening to you, I even copied the picks you used, never could get that percussive sound you managed to coax out of your Bass, the difference from having a musical vision, and-well, not having one I guess.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 13:35:08 CET 2001 from spider-tj032.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.187)

Brien Sz

From: nj

I was in my car on the way to do some Christmas shopping when i got the news. I was shocked. I didn't cry.., don't know why, just didn't. I do know that i walked around in a bit of a daze. And i do know that i gave thanks for having his voice be there for so many wonderful and not so wonderful times in my life. I still give thanks for that. And i give thanks for being able to know the man a little and experience his cheerful, sweet soul.

To some degree, i must admit, i don't know if i have ever accepted his passing 100% because every once in a while I keep waiting to see a new concert date for Rick in the What's New section.

Death and love are the two wings that bear a man to heaven.., My prayers are with your family and close friends today..,


Posted on Mon Dec 10 12:20:04 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp222.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.222)

Diamond Lil

I've been struggling here for about an hour now, trying to come up with just the right lyrics to post on this day.. and it seems that for me, nothing fits. And so, I'd like to just share a few thoughts instead.

2 years ago, just around this time of morning, I remember being unable to function, unable to stop crying. My only thought at the time was 'I can't do this'. As the week after Rick's death went on, I remember reading some beautiful posts on this site...kind of a community 'I can't do this'..with so many reaching out to others that they perhaps has never even met..but yet.. who shared the same sense of sadness and shock and loss. It was a very numbing and confusing time for all of us.
And yet, here we are, on the 2nd anniversary of Rick's death...and we did it. We all did it. We somehow managed to turn the overwhelming grief into happy memories..together. I'm not sure what I would have done without this site and all of you back in 1999. The comfort of sharing feelings and tears with those who understood helped me heal...and for that I thank all of you. And a special thanks to my dear friend Jan, for giving us this place to come to, and for being here at my side through that first week. I don't know what I would've done without your warmth and humor. I love you.

I miss you Rick..everyday. Thank you for all you did for me, all the advice, and all the reassurance. I carry it with me to this day. I love you.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 09:03:13 CET 2001 from spider-wj062.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.47)

Donna

From: PA

"You filled in the gaps in the stars all by yourself"

Rick, you will live in our hearts and memories forever! Your music was your gift to us, and I thank you for making a difference.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 08:56:17 CET 2001 from sdn-ap-004castocp0077.dialsprint.net (63.187.32.77)

Charlie Hawker

From: San Francisco Bay Area

All I can say is that I miss Rick Danko as much as I did the day he passed away. Although I did not know him personally, I just know he was a beautiful person. I just don't believe you can have a voice like his (or Levons or Richards for that matter) without being someone who is free of pretense. From what I gather by the postings of people who had the good fortune of meeting him I am right about that. Thank you for the music Rick... you taught me how to play and sing. You and Richard take care of George Harrison.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 08:09:33 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind P Richardson

From: Ran City

Bayou Sam, that was a really nice post.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 07:17:26 CET 2001 from 1cust178.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.193.92.178)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

So what's wrong with inducting the Rascals again? And what about the 5th Beatle - Murray the K? Also, let's not forget Pete Best, Stu Sutcliffe, and Tony Sheridan.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 06:11:49 CET 2001 from spider-ti073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.208)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

I didn't know Rick Danko personally, like several people in the GB did. I walked around like most fans with that feeling that It SEEMED like he was a good friend, just through his music. I did get lucky enough to pick a Danko show to attend only about six months before he died. I'm so glad I did. I posted this last year, but here goes again.

I went with my wife to see him at The Brokerage Comedy Club here on Long Island. There was only about 75, or so, people in the place, so it had a real nice cozy atmosphere. Rick came through the crowd, stopping to chat to a few people, and took the stage. Prof. Louie was with him. Honestly, he looked real tired in his movements. But the smile, and the voice were RIGHT ON. I suppose the night was made for me when he did "Long Black Veil".I just love his voice on that one. It was a great show. He would talk to people in the crowd between songs. At the end, he walked back through the crowd into the back. My wife and I went out to the bar area where they were selling CDs (I bought the live one with the black cover). They said Rick would probably come out to sign autographs. I bought along a photo of Big Pink that I took myself on a trip upstate. A curtain that served as kind of a doorway parted and Rick was standing there. He saw me and said' "I'll be right back, I just want to change my shirt, OK?" I was stunned that he actually was kind of asking if we would mind waiting. It was just the way he seemed to be. Of course I mumbled something like, "sure - or course". I got to feel a little tiny example of how much he really gave a damn about people. When he came back and settled in at a table, I was first up with my Big Pink picture. He signed it with the words "live long". I told him he could keep my black marker since he didn't have another one. It was the least I could do. I shook his hand and thanked him for all the great music. My wife shook his hand and kissed him on the cheek - he pulled her back and pointed to his other cheek and told her to "make it even", and she kissed that cheek too. I went home so thrilled with the whole show and having personally felt that warm feeling that people had always described recieving when having contact with Rick Danko. I told friends about the show for days and said that the next time around we all had to go. Sadly, I never got to do that. But, I am so glad to have seen him that night. I've got the photo in front of me now. It's framed with a newspaper ad for the show, and a set list of what he played. He also drew a little smile face under his name.

We miss you Rick. Thanks for the music.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 05:41:55 CET 2001 from spider-ti073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.208)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

from the Billboard book of Number One Hits =

"In pure mathematical terms, Ringo Starr actually had the most successful solo career of any Beatle during the first half of the 70's. A look at chart statistics reveals that of his first eight singles released after the beatles' breakup, seven made the top ten".

Actually, if you don't have it, you should pick up Ring's "Blast From Your Past" hits CD. I bet you'll find yourself playing it alot.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 04:25:28 CET 2001 from atpm3-3-42.enter.net (208.137.243.144)

Zeppe

From: PA

I just wanted to commemorate the 2nd anniversary of Rick Danko's passing. Although I never got the chance to meet him or see him perform, I always admired him as a singer and bass player. He is one of my biggest idols. He lives on in his music.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 03:19:59 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.136)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

The Stones have to get credit for survival, if nothing else. Jagger looked pretty damn energetic on SNL this weekend, even participating in a great self-deprecating skip with Jimmy Fallon (reminiscent of the classic Lucy-Harpo mirror routine). I suggest watching the DVD of the Stones' IMAX film, LIVE AT THE MAX. I saw it at an IMAX theater originally and was blown away. The DVD isn't far behind. Charlie Watts is the coolest guy in the band, but the others have their moments. There are clearly some overdubs, but I don't always object to those.

Regarding the HOF, I'd have put Leon Russell and Johnny Rivers in there by now, but they'll probably continue to be overlooked as if they were the Monkees or Kiss...


Posted on Mon Dec 10 03:16:51 CET 2001 from spider-tp012.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.177)

George Rolley

From: Virginia

I became a fan kind of late in the game. I came home from work one night and The Last Waltz was being played on A&E. I found myself glued to the T.V. watching this group of very talented musicians play out what was to be their last show. It's so sad that these guys couldn't work out what ever differences that they had and keep on putting out their unique brand of music.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 03:03:15 CET 2001 from dialup-65.56.129.91.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (65.56.129.91)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Brien, the Rascals are in the HOF. I made their case earlier. I would easily put them above the Rolling Stones, if only for their social consciousness. Plus, Felix can sing rings around what's his name.


Posted on Mon Dec 10 03:01:20 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tf043.proxy.aol.com (64.12.103.38)

Nick

From: Virginia

Great Barnburners show last night in Lancaster! Not a packed house but everyone there was dancin and lovin it. Great Band!! Peter, I don't totally disagree with your take on audience participation but I will say this... I don't like it when an audience sits the whole time with polite applause and rises and dances for the last couple of songs because they they think it's the cool thing to do. It really depends on the kind of music but I know that that if I was at a DR John show or a Band show or any jammin show I wouldn't be sittin' on my ass. If I wanted that I could put on a live CD at home. Get up and jam, this ain't the Met for christ!


Posted on Mon Dec 10 02:49:29 CET 2001 from spider-th033.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.58)

Brien Sz

From: nj

The issue of the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame and its criteria intrigues me. It really keeps no one out who has good connections or are simply well respected. Personally, Ringo's two succssful albums(?) isn't enough to get him in. As a Beatle - hands down. As a solo act, what did he ever do to fill the vague criteria that has been set. Ringo's post Beatles success was more because of his Beatle association than anything else. Did his solo works alter the course of Rock? Were they unique? Did he explore new avenues of music? As far as his drumming - when i grew up, it was taken that he was an average drummer at best. It seems history has been forgiving. Hall of Fame ( my only reference is sports hall of fames) is for the truly great performances or works. Can we honestly say Ringo's post Beatles work is 5 star Hall of Fame caliber music?

The Rascals were mentioned earlier - I don't know if they are in the HOF. But from my vantage point, this is another periphery group, that was good BUT are they to be put on the same mantle as the Beatles, Stones, Zep and so on. I've never been a huge Tull fan but my vote would go towards them before the Rascals or Ringo. Making a flute a progressive rock instrument - well that's influencing and groundbreaking! Now this isn't to say I'm not up for hearing a good, solid case for either Ringo or Rascals - I'm all ears...,


Posted on Mon Dec 10 02:23:00 CET 2001 from dv037s47.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.47.37)

Dexy

As usual, Mr. Viney is indeed correct, folks. Reading the Rock Hall criteria, I find it hard to come down on the side that says George H. isn't a lock. And, though it was Peter who brought it up, I agree that Ringo goes in too. For three reasons: 1) The enduring influence of his drumming; 2) His solo hits and the amazingly good All-Starr series (Band link); 3) Frankly, because The Beats deserve special compensation, i.e., induction as a group and as four solo artists. Simply, The Beatles is distinct from all others and should be designated as such. (However, I did read the post that said essentially: Who cares? Good point, but I just can't help myself.)


Posted on Mon Dec 10 00:35:14 CET 2001 from dap-209-114-161-206.nfas.monroe-tnt-1.sns234.pa.stargate.net (209.114.161.206)

Bear

From: Western PA

I wanted to make sure this got into here for Monday December 10th, the two year anniversary of Ricks' passing. I still can't believe it is true. Sometimes it seems so like a dream. Words cannot begin to describe how I feel and the emptiness your death left on my heart and soul. The thought of never seeing you again in person is very hard to take. I think you were perhaps, one of the kindest, sweetest persons, I ever met. What you saw, is what you got. The real thing. Your passing came at another bad time in my life....my dads illness. And shortly after losing you, I also lost my father. But Rick your music lives on, along with my memory of you the memory of my dad and brother too. I can't ever remember a time in my life, when I had felt so lost. Two years later, I am finally able to celebrate the holidays without as much sadness. I still miss the three of you, but it is getting easier. You were such a big part of my life all these yea more than you will ever know. You helped me through some very rough times. Thank god for the music.....it is so healing. You will always remain in my thoughts and prayers, and I have so many good memories associated with you, and for that I am thankful. May God be with you and may you rest in peace. I'll always love you and keep you in my heart through the music forever.


Posted on Sun Dec 9 22:45:59 CET 2001 from spider-wm063.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.178)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Jawbone: Don Pugatch was extremely generous in giving out MP3 versions of the Complete Last Waltz recently. I am will ing to send you an MP3 copy if you email me your address. I believe it's a matter of Kharma; someone was kind to me and I will pass it along. Due to being extremely busy in moving into a new home over the holiday season I really can't offer this to anybody else at this time, but perhaps other beneficieries of Don's generosity can pick up the baton the next time one of our 'Band Family' has a similar request.


Posted on Sun Dec 9 22:09:26 CET 2001 from adsl-156-135-190.bgk.bellsouth.net (66.156.135.190)

Ole Jawbone

Can someone please help me with my delimma? Im looking for copies of one or both of the following bootlegs..."The Academy Outtakes", from the Rock of Ages sessions, and "The Complete Last Waltz". Im not a "tape trader", so I dont have anything of worth to trade, but I'd love to have copies of those bootlegs on CD, and would really appreciate it if anyone could help me acquire them. Thank you very much!!!


Posted on Sun Dec 9 21:50:38 CET 2001 from toronto-ppp221711.sympatico.ca (64.228.108.20)

Lola J.

From: toronto
Web page

Donna, Hope you find the MP3's of Clayton's afternoon in Jimmy W.'s basement enjoyable...(some fine guitar playing & listen for the real train a comin' in the Runaway Train choruses!) . Yes indeed Roger Mason is a great bass player (as well as a painter) & can be heard also on some of Andy Statman's recordings for Sony Classical....very beautiful & spiritual klezmer jazz. Roger & Clayton were pretty close in those days when they were running around looking for a record deal & trying to eke some fun out of Chatham NY....


Posted on Sun Dec 9 21:42:02 CET 2001 from du-tele3-084.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.84)

Peter Viney

Ringo's mid-70s albums were major successes. Of course both George and Ringo should be in the RRHOF.


Posted on Sun Dec 9 18:44:20 CET 2001 from spider-wk041.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.166)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Brien = thanks for posting that RnR HOF criteria. I've tried to apply it to George. I think his intoducing another type of musical sound into rock, and the Bangladesh concert are pretty good reasons for induction. I've also read articles where George said he had heard of studio guitarists doing sessions where they were asked to play slide guitar "like george Harrison". GH found this fact amazing. I think his distinctive slide sound has more of an influence than people realize. I read an interview once with Clapton where he said he wished he could play the kind of slide George plays.

Now - as a Beatles fan, I couldn't help wondering if we can also put Ringo in the HOF. His first two albums were a collection of old standards, and a country album. I do think that there are scores of people drumming because of Ringo. How about the last ten years or so of him bringing these great rockers out of mothballs and taking them on tour for his All Starr shows.

Actually, I think all four Beales should be in separately anyway for BEING part of The beatles. The band would not have been the same if any one of them wasn't there. I can't imagine Pete Best doing as good a job on, say, "Yer Blues" as Ringo.

I finally saw the Gap commercial. My first two thought were - what's wrong with his voice, and "wow", he was the end of the commercial. He must have made the thing...Then, for some reason, I pictured levon sitting at the TV and seeing it. I had an image of him just laughing hysterically - I don't know why.

Occasionally, my mind wanders - sometimes it actually gets up and leaves.


Posted on Sun Dec 9 13:33:06 CET 2001 from spider-wa021.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.26)

Joe

Just a test


Posted on Sun Dec 9 07:07:54 CET 2001 from spider-wm061.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.176)

Donna

From: PA

Lola J. Thank you for the information and Web Page on Clayton Denwood's new album, "Sunset on the Highway." I am especially interested in the benefit sessions that included Jimmy, Randy, and Roger Mason! I was fortunate to see Roger Mason, play with the Gurus at the Pattenburg House, just recently. Roger, is one of the finest bass players around.


Posted on Sun Dec 9 05:28:07 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp71358.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.196.183)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

Well.....I knew I could entice the one who has lived in India (well.....that's what he told me.....) to appear to correct me!.......The SARASWATI.......is seen playing the VEENA.......

PALLAVI: O mother who loves the lotus-seat,
Ever delighting in the music of VEENA,
Ever joyful, and EVER MERCIFUL TO ME.......

ANUPALLAVI: Save me who have taken refuge in you!
O you with feet as tender as sprouts,
You charm the hearts of poets,
You dwell in the lotus,
You of the jeweled bracelets.

CHARANAM: Lotus-eyed mother who is gracious to the lowly who seek your mercy,
Mother with a face as lovely as the autumn moon,
Pure lady! O SARASWATI, chaste,
ever fond of learning,
Lady with breasts like ceremonial vessels,
Complete Being, who holds a book in the hand which bestows all dominion........


Posted on Sun Dec 9 05:04:38 CET 2001 from 1cust91.tnt48.nyc3.da.uu.net (67.193.92.91)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn
Web page

Saraswati is always pictured playing a veena rather than a sitar. The veena is a smaller and much less complicated musical instrument. There used to be an Indian restaurant just down the block called "The Veena" where I ate quite frequenty. If anyone knows where it moved to let me know - the food was really good!!

Click on above "Web Page" and scroll down to the bottom for illustrations.


Posted on Sun Dec 9 03:09:30 CET 2001 from ool-182e0dd2.dyn.optonline.net (24.46.13.210)

A neeshna

From: Not emotionally available

Robbie-GIT CHEE MAN EE TOE...KONORONHKWA...BA MA PEE GE GWABA A MN... Ohinniyan (Lakota for "always") Standing Tall, Unbroken Spirit 1995.


Posted on Sun Dec 9 02:44:22 CET 2001 from spider-th072.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.77)

Brien Sz

From: nj

With some of the talk lately dealing with the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame, i was curious to know what the criteria was to get in. The following is copied from the RRHOF web site:

Performers
Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artist’s contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. The Foundation’s nominating committee, composed of rock and roll historians, selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are then sent to an international voting body of about 1,000 rock experts. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes, and more than 50 percent of the vote, are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year.

criteria for other categories are also on the web site


Posted on Sun Dec 9 00:48:26 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp71358.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.196.183)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

HI AMANDA! I double checked my book.......WORLDS OF MUSIC......and......"Sarasiruha", the core piece of the performance segment, has a devotional song text in Sanskrit addressed to SARASWATI, THE HINDU GODDESS OF MUSIC AND LEARNING......The song mentions......YOU CHARM THE HEARTS OF POETS.......PURE LADY! O SARASWATI, CHASTE, EVER FOND OF LEARNING.......Anyway, it was Ravi at Woodstock who inspired Brian Jones and George Harrison to fuse eastern sounds with rock.....

It is irrelevant whether the sitar rocks the musical world of Guestbook Posters or not........what is more significant is a SHARING OF CULTURES AND SOUNDS.......

BTW......You mentioned to me that you liked Iggy Pop.....I always liked I'M BORED......I saw him at our Police Picnic.....New Wave show outside of Toronto.......Iggy can sure move on stage, can't he?

I discovered today that my Naturopathic Doctor's husband received some assistance from Robbie Robertson for his book......PEOPLE OF THE DANCING SKY....Like everyone outside of this Guestbook she knew nothing about a FFFFFFFFFF.......and commented that Robbie was very friendly and helpful......:-D.......Then she gave me a jazz CD of one of her clients as a holiday gift........MODERN TIMES......PETER KAUFFMAN TRIO.........:-D

For those of you looking for a NORWEGIAN FOLKTALE to read to your children........Amanda Hall......FOOLISH HUSBANDS....;-D


Posted on Sat Dec 8 23:27:05 CET 2001 from (66.43.82.135)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

Felix Cavaliere and the Rascals are more deserving of their membership in the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame than a dozen or so of the artists on the roster with them (I won't name names because that invariably pisses off someone). Anyway, Felix still possesses one of the great voices in popular music and he turns up--along with Rick and Levon--on the new DVD of the highlights of the first twelve years of Ringo's All-Starr Band. One of the best moments on the disc is Felix performing "Groovin'," though the incomparable Jack Bruce almost steals the show with an amazing version of "Sunshine of Your Love." The ensemble exploration of "The Weight" is untouchable, though, with Nils Lofgren, Dr. John, Billy Preston and, of course, Rick, Garth and Levon contributing great moments. One shot of Ringo, Levon and Jim Keltner pounding away simultaneouly, side-by-side is a must for fans of stellar drumming. As someone here said, though, Dino Danelli of the Rascals is one of the few drummers worth mentioning in the same breath as that trio.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 21:50:46 CET 2001 from spider-tp044.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.194)

Calvin

Sorry to post a couple times a day, but Im working all days this time of year and I check in when Im a little bored-and things always strike me into posting. JTull, I seriously, seriously doubt if RR will ever comment on Levon having a huge mad on over him, or write an autobiography-not because he is "above it" as some have suggested, but because he seems so intensely private that no amount of money would convince him to allow us into every corner of his life. I'm reminded of the quote by Petr Gabriel that he considers himself a good friend of RRs but has never been to his house, tell alls just isn't a style.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 20:53:02 CET 2001 from spider-tl071.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.206)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Here is a thought that will either go unnoticed are start a spirited thread: I've been pondering why Robbie doesn't respond much to the Levon feud publicly and the upcoming Band Box set and Last Waltz expanded edition: Perhaps Robbie is ready to come out with his autobiography. With Rick and Richard now gone, and Levon having had his say, perhaps Robbie is set to come out with his book, with the thought of it being The Final Say. The rereleased Last Waltz and new box set could generate the publicity and the book could in turn generate interest in those two projects. If successful, it could spawn a film version (we know Robbie has the connections ) It could be a 'Great Balls of Fire' version of Robbie's life, from his point of view, etc. etc. Of course, this is merely my speculation, but if you think of it, the time is right given his age, stature etc. He also knew George Harrison, played with Eric Clapton (who announced he was giving up touring to concentrate on family), so all these things could be drawn upon to promote his work. I would love to hear what the rest of you guys think about this.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 20:47:17 CET 2001 from spider-wk033.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.163)

Tommy

From: Brooklyn,NY
Web page

Hey friends,

On this day, the 21st anniversary of John Lennon's death and a sad rememberance indeed, I am here to bring a smile to your face,,,,,

I went to Strawberry Fields today in Central Park and there was a guy with a van passing out flyers in front of The Dakota about "the truth of Lennon's assination".He has a website.You guys MUST MUST MUST check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is one of the funniest, most RIDICULOUS things I've ever heard/read/seen...whatever! If this guy isn't some kinda comedian, then hes some kinda NUT!Go look!;

WWW.LENNONMURDERTRUTH.COM

(I'm not sure if I put the link in right above.You might just have to type it in.Sorry.It WILL be worth it though, I promise.HAVE A GOOD ONE, KIDS!!!)


Posted on Sat Dec 8 19:53:21 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Me again.....I forgot to ask, in my last post, if anyone knew where to get a copy of Nelvanamation II? I would love to have it for my kiddos. "We'll Find A Way" is a lovely song. Thanks!


Posted on Sat Dec 8 19:42:19 CET 2001 from toronto-ppp223582.sympatico.ca (64.228.114.113)

Lola J.

From: Toronto
Web page

In hopes of not interloping on this great ongoing dialogue Foursquare Records would like to announce the release of Clayton Denwood's new album "Sunset on the Highway"(see Webpage above)...Clayton's history (although humble) with The Band goes back to '93 when at 22 he first appeared onstage at the Bearsville Theatre in Woodstock, with Levon & Garth (& the Crowmatix) & borrowed Jimmy W's telecaster for a rendition of Ray Charles "Hard Times"...Later in unreleased demo sessions for ESP Records he was joined by Garth, Jimmy, Randy C., Larry Packer, Steve Rust & Shredni Vollmer for 4 tunes. Denwood continued to play shows at various Woodstock benefits with his own band opening up for Rick D. & The Crowmatix . Also further sessions (some of which are available at MP3.com/claytondenwood) included the backing of Jimmy, Randy & producer Roger Mason on bass...The new record features some great young Canadian backup players & some very beautiful pedal steel by Larry Thomas and was produced by Joe Dunphy...Another funny, but strangely appropriate connection is that in his hometown of Toronto, Clayton plays left wing for his hockey team...The Hawks.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 19:33:26 CET 2001 from spider-we073.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.53)

Calvin

Can I make a commont on the etiquette of concert goers Peter, Cell Phones should be left on quite vibrate, and you should excuse yourself if you want to "chat". There are times that people at my business really do need to get ahold of me, but to just chat away at a show, Plays and Movies are much worse to do this in, but still. Sometimes I think the, "wow the crowds in Cleveland or so much better than the crowds in Detroit" claim from the stage is just a crowd teaser by the performers, I've heard some claim often times they are unsure of where they are some nights, all though I find this very hard to believe, very hard.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 19:13:00 CET 2001 from spider-we073.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.53)

Calvin

Hmm, I guess I need to give them a closer listen, The Rascals that is. When I think of them I tend to conjure up images of "the Young Rascals" as late 60s pop group that came and went. Also, I assume it was me be referenced when some wrote I agree with the guy who said the HOF is a racket. Not what I said, I said I dont know if a HOF is a good idea in the sense of inclusion/exculsion for artists doesn't seem like a good idea-it should be more exhibit like fun rather than a contest to see who makes it, and that those who run in don't seem to have a guideline for what deserves induction, it seems to change for every artist. Oh, and I happen to really, really like Crazy Mama, but I do think it couldn't have hurt for the reformed Band to do some of their solo stuff in concert, frankly until the post mentioning it I assumed they did.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 18:54:06 CET 2001 from du-tele3-156.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.156)

Peter Viney

The RSO conversation brings another point. Why were Rick and Levon so reluctant to acknowledge their solo careers within the reformed Band? Sure, you get Milk Cow Boogie on the Cates tour. You get the odd Blue River or Driftin Away performances in 93/94. There’s a rare One More Shot from Levon from time to time, but never a serious attempt to integrate their solo stuff into the group framework. For example, there are several Levon solo numbers just as strong as ‘Stuff you Gotta Watch’ or ‘Caldonia.’ There are several Rick and Levon solo numbers (which they did live on solo excursions) that are a great deal more interesting than ‘Stuff You Gotta watch’ or ‘Caldonia’ or ‘Crazy Mama.’ Why was there never a ‘Small Town Talk’ with The Band, or a ‘Sweet Peach Georgia Wine’ (or for that matter, a ‘Strawberry wine’) or ‘Watermelon Time in Georgia’? Odd that, and probably a mistake in marketing terms.

The Rascals were amazing. That’s the third vote in a row!

I reported watching Michelle Shocked a while back (an absolutely excellent show too). BUT there was a point where she asked the audience to sing along and seemed to get genuinely irate / lose her temper at the weak response. Another disconcerting thing was getting the bass player to wind her up while she mimed being a puppet at the start of Anchorage – as I said at the time, you don’t crap on your meal ticket, if you have any sense you perform your greatest hit with at least feigned pleasure.

POTENTIAL TALKING POINT - On performances, what’s the etiquette in seated halls? I reckon the audience get up, stand and move forward for encores but shouldn’t before. Performers who urge people to get up and come to the front in the second number of a 90 minute show (as Dr John’s drummer did) annoy me, mainly because my wife is five foot tall, and the instant it happens, that’s the end of watching any of the show for her. As she says, after that it’s just staring at the back of someone’s armpit. At the Dr John show no one reacted, and again we were mildly ticked off for lack of enthusiasm. If you need the audience to stand, you book into clubs, not halls, especially venues like The Forum in London where there’s standing downstairs, seating in the balcony. The really great live performers (e.g. Van the Man, k.d. lang, Bob Dylan) never have to urge people to get up. They orchestrate their set list, so that it always happens, and they create the moment when it happens (Van – often the second to last song before the encores, but that’s fair enough). Paul Simon knows when they leap to their feet too- after Steve Gadd’s solo when “Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes” becomes “You Can Call Me Al”. The rush to the front should be spontaneous, same as singing along, and performers asking people to do it look pathetic. Extremely pathetic if it doesn’t work (as Michelle S did by losing her temper). It’s like saying ‘Come on! Enjoy yourselves!’ Either they are … or not. And a performer has a hell of a lot of gall to criticize the paying public for under-reacting. If they’re under-reacting, you can only look to your own performance. But how many performers say ‘The audience in Town X is great but the audience in Town Y is restrained.’ Does it never occur to them that they might have performed better in one venue than the other? This confirms my thesis that on the whole musicians are far more ‘precious’ about audience response than actors are (probably because musicians are playing themselves whereas actors are playing a role). This goes with my thesis that actors and dancers do seven or eight shows a week and ALWAYS start exactly on time. And doing Hamlet for three hours is harder work than playing bass for 90 minutes. And you don’t get the M&Ms colour sorted in the dressing room, and you can’t go on stage drunk or stoned either.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 18:51:55 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Brown Eyed Girl: I have a small print of Sarasvati...a graceful young woman with a sitar in her lap. She is considered to be the patron goddess of writers and poets.

I have been listening to RCO and Rollie is so right....it is complete soul music. "You Got Me" is so seductive...it has to be the best "smoochin'" song ever recorded...IMHO. "Thats My Home" makes me think of Memphis and the changes the city has gone through and how it still remains the same. The musical heritage of the Southern black man was cultivated in that wonderful city. Right after the Civil War Beale Street was the one place in Memphis where black and white men and women came together because of the power of the music. When I would visit my grandmother in Memphis in the 70s...all I wanted to do was drive by Elvis' house and cruise down Riverside Drive and look at all the old run down buildings in the downtown area.I think Levon captured Memphis and it's sound on RCO, in a very pure way....that alone is a glowing achievement. Beale Street is all shiny and starched now days, but you can still feel that old magic...the spirit and history is still there.

Nelson Wilbury is the coolest....Lucky too!


Posted on Sat Dec 8 17:59:33 CET 2001 from spider-wl031.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.31)

JohnG

From: Long Beach N.Y,

Calvin....I have to comment about The Rascals....they were a great hard driving, funky, innovative group. Felix Cavalerie wrote great songs and introduced the Hammond to R&R. Dino Dinelli was THE drummer of that era. Ask any drummer who was a teen in those days and they will tell you Dino was one of the main reasons they ever picked up a pair of sticks. Dino's stuff still holds up today, bigtime. Not that "top 40 hits" are a true barometer of talent, but these guys had a long string of them and were very talented musicians. But,,,just one mans opinion.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 17:44:35 CET 2001 from dialup-65.56.130.23.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (65.56.130.23)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

I've been told Michelle kept insisting that Levon sing TNTDODD as part of her, errrr, "play."

Calvin, I'm surprised with your dig at the Rascals. At the helm of the blue-eyed soul movement, huge chart successes, incredible live act, incorporated all kinds of music (check their liner notes for a who's who of late 60's East Coast jazz) even the deaded sitar, even huger social consciousness (insisted on integrated labor forces working the theaters where they performed, free shows in economically depressed areas including Harlem) and a social consciousness that extended to their music ("People Got To Be Free" "Ray Of Hope" among others). As I recall, they were the biggest concert draw in the world in 68 and 69. They also shared an interesting parallel early life to our boys when they were the Hawks. The Rascals definitely deserve to be in a R&R hall of fame, although I agree it is a weird thing in the first place.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 17:39:36 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta074.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.54)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Twenty one years ago tonight, I was up in my room in my parents house reading a book called "ATwist of Lennon", by Cynthia Lennon Twist (John's first wife). My parents had the news on TV downstairs and although I wasn't listening to it - I could hear the sound. All of a sudden I heard the words, "a man tentatively identified as John Lennon has been shot outside the Dakota building...." I'll never forget those words. I spent the whole night watching TV, and for some reason, taping (audio) all the reports from the TV. Early the next morning I went into the city with a bunch of people to be at the Dakota building.

I was 20, and John was 40. Now I'm older than he was when he died. It's weird. Still sad.

Hey John - if they have the internet on the other side, and you read this - George is up there and he's probably looking for you.

"We all shine on, like the moon, and the stars, and the sun, yeah we all shine on, Everyone - come on."


Posted on Sat Dec 8 17:27:51 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta071.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.51)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Geez, when I bought up Elton, I didn't think I'd see such a range of opinions. I happen to think he's terrific. Besides the musical success, he has gone through alot of personal stuff and come out standing. In fact, even though I wasn't wild about the tune, I thought "I'm Still Standing" was a great declaration for him at the time...... Most of you seem to only like his earliest stuff. I still love "Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me'" - and "Goodbye Yellowbrick Road is still a great album" IMHO......Honky Cat (great horns)... .....Candle In The Wind, yes, it's overplayed, but still a wonderful tune.



Posted on Sat Dec 8 17:12:47 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp69303.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.188.160)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

Let us not forget the incomparable BRIAN JONES.....when we are talking about musicians who brought "world" instruments to the arena of rock music......THE SITAR....After Ravi Shankar.....it was Jones who made me take a second listen to the sitar.........

Marianne Faithfull on Brian Jones: He loved all kinds of music. He was one of those extraordinary people who, if there was a basket in a room with twenty-four different musical instruments from twenty-four corners of the world, could pick them up and find out in a minute what they did and how they worked, and he would play them and get really beautiful sounds out of them. He was at his very best when no words were needed........

There is a contemporary print available of SARASWATI.......the GODDESS OF MUSIC AND LEARNING.....The Goddess is playing a SITAR.......


Posted on Sat Dec 8 16:09:30 CET 2001 from dialup-354.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.98)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

I went to dinner once with Michelle Shocked......in Greenwich Village in 1986.......in a Mexican Cafe next to a songwriters bar called The Speakeasy (don't look for it...it's not there anymore)...afterwards we went and jammed in Washington Square Park......she was nice enough.....no trips or anything....but, in the meantime, I've heard that her husband is a complete control freak.....when she played in Cork a few years ago, everybody involved in the gig said he was impossible to deal with.......too bad, 'cos she was great at the start......and I always admired the way she took on the major record companies........

George Harrison deserves to be in the RRHoF for his pioneering work in introducing World Music into The Rock'n'Roll lexicon........he did it before anybody of his generation and it had a massive effect.....to this day.........

But hey will RR get a solo induction.....does he deserve one?.......

See Y'all later.......


Posted on Sat Dec 8 15:28:58 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta021.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.26)

guido

From: Nashville
Web page

In response to the person that didn't think Elton John has "done anything besides Madman..." I suggest you get Tumblweed Connection or 11-17-70 or the first Elton John record. This guy deserves to be there. Those records are every bit the classics thatBig Pink or the Brown Band album were. My too sense.... Thanks again, Jan, for the page on Lucky Man Clark.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 15:13:41 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind Richardson

From: Rain city

I totally agree with the guy who referred to The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame as basically a racket. If they're not going to induct only the ones that have made a real contribution to music then why call it a hall of fame. What happened to people like Gram Parsons, Tom Waits and Roy Buchannon. I found it offensive that Elton John actually went in the same year that The Band did. There seem to be a lot of Elton John fans here, I don't get it. I saw the guy far a moment on the tube the other night and flipped past it as quickly as I could, The only remotely decent record the guy ever made was "Madman Across The Water". Somebody mentioned if anyone knew if Robbie Robertson had ever made a Gap commercial other than the current one. I think he did. Back in the 80's, I looked up from what I was doing because I heard a Muddy Waters tune playing on the TV...and low and behold, it was a take-off of "The Color of Money" and I swore I saw Robbie sitting at a table in a pool hall while some guy picked a girl up by her hips....she had on GAP jeans.I'm so sure, I'd lay money on it.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 14:55:12 CET 2001 from a010-0264.burk.splitrock.net (63.255.172.10)

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

From: Madison, Wi
Web page

*Mike Falzarano* w/ Prof. "Louie" & The Crowmatix~ Tonite was something special with Prof. "Louie" & The Crowmatix. We had Sue Peterson (The rock n roll mama) from WIBA 101.5 FM radio MC the band tonite,,thanks Sue!!! They payed tribute to the late *Rick Danko* (The Band) tonite on the Tim's SUNDOG Show,,,and also at the Liquid Lyrics Lounge performence in Madison. Its been two years this weekend since Ricks passing. As most of you know,,Louie was at the last Grateful Dead show at Soldier Field with The Band. So they did tribute to the Grateful Dead too!!! Now heres the good news,,,we have *Mike Falzarano* (guitarist HOT TUNA), with Prof. "Louie" & The Crowmatix for the next SUNDOG SUMMER SHAKEDOWN. Yes folks,,,Mike agreed to be there and jam with them!!! I can't wait to tell Vince 'bout the good news. Hes gonna be stoked about this news,,and man can Mike freak'n sing too!!!


Posted on Sat Dec 8 14:33:58 CET 2001 from spider-wm044.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.169)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Lil, with your sched. I bet you are a nurse like my mother-in-law. Jethro Tull is also not in the Hall of Fame. Say what you will about them, but they are a strong, enduring representative of the progressive wing of rock, and they have their place. I agree that George also belongs for his solo work. BB KING: will be on Larry King live 9pm Eastern time Monday 12/10 performing some of his new Christmas music. Today is 12/8, and Lil made a reference earlier about dreading this time of year regarding Danko, Lennon, etc. I used to be that way too, then philosophically I realized a date is only the measurement of earth to sun, and it is only this realignment that causes us to say a certain arbitrary 'date' has returned. Other objects, people, etc. have not returned to the same conditions/positions they were in on 12/8/2000, or 12/8/1980, or 12/8/1973 when my grandmother died. Neither have the planets in relations to themselves, the sun to other stars, constellations to other constellations, the Milky Way to other galaxies etc. etc. Ditto for the day Rick passed.If we picked our dates based upon our sun's orbit within the galaxy, it would not be the anniversary of any of these dates. Nor if we used the cycles of the moon for our calender, as this is why Easter/Passover come at different 'dates' each year. So next time you let a bad anniversary get you down, remember it is a subjective bad feeling you can push away.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 14:08:57 CET 2001 from spider-wo031.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.31)

Calvin

The RnR HOF is a bit of an enigma. There doesn't seem to be any real guidelines for entrance. And unlike says sports there isn't hard data to go buy. Someone said earlier the board seems intent on inducting a cross culture/genre/era of musicians each year. Can there be any other reason that Black Sabbath and Steely Dan dont make it years the the Flamingos and Solomon Burke did? Years that Todd Rundgren didnt even get on the ballot in? Paul Mac had 9 No 1 and 33 Top 40, and incredible run of billboard sucess, but they made him wait for no other reason than he was in as a Beatle. Personally I don't even like the idea of a rock n roll HOF, or at least the idea of a group deciding who is worthy of the pantheon and who isn't. The Rascals? Are you kidding me? And Poco doesn't even make the nominating ballot? As much as I applauded the very quick entrance of The Band, as a whole I find the HOF one of the most ridicolous, politically driven institutions out there. At the moment I'm living about 25 minutes from the Hall, and Ive intended a few shows there, which they do a nice job with. And the John Lennon exhibit they just did was well done, but taken in it's entirety It is a letdown. A friend who recently moved to the PAcific Northwest tells me Seattle has started a comepeting venue that he liked a lot more, anyone no anything about it.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 10:42:00 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp218.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.218)

Diamond Lil

Woke up this morning to find Neil Young's "Let's Roll" mysteriously downloaded into my computer (by my gremlin son no doubt)..a nice surprise. Very eerie tune.. the ringing cell phone at the beginning gives me chills...and the lyrics are very touching. The line "I hope we are forgiven for what we have to do" is one that kind of grabbed me here. Forgiven? In my opinion, the true heroes of the 9-11 tragedy were the men on that flight. The FDNY and NYPD were also heroes..but that's their job. The men on that doomed flight showed courage that noone could even imagine...and I think Mr. Young really captured that courage in this tune. And btw.. whoever said that he sounds alot like RR in this tune is right. Kind of blew me away the first time I heard it this morning.

4:30am, and I'm off to work. What a way to spend a Saturday morning. Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 07:45:28 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp70326.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.192.167)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO CALM AND CRITTER!!!!!!

..........

Now I have seen a painting
Old and hanging in a frame
And that painting was of you
Now how can you explain
From another place in time
Done many years ago
Why I'm haunted by this vision
Guess we'll never know
Then she turned and whispered in my ear
CAN YOU FEEL MY HEART BEAT

Chorus

Won't you raise
Won't you raise up
Won't you raise up your hand
AND HOLD BACK THE DAWN

Songwriter, Vocal, Guitar, Solo.....Robbie Robertson.....STORYVILLE
Background Vocal.....Rick Danko


Posted on Sat Dec 8 06:35:26 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk063.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.48)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Y'know - Lennon's (and I love the guy) solo career was actually quite short (partly by his choice). He only lived for ten years after the split, and he only recorded for about five of those years. He was the last to get a number one song. I'm not knocking (lost) John, but George's solo work holds up fine to the Walrus'. According to my Billboard book of number one hits, JL had two, and GH had three. I heard on the news tonight that they are re-issuing the song "My Sweet Lord" as a tribute to George. Clapton inducting him would be a sweet thing to see.

OK - who suggested that us George fans push for him to be inducted? I'm ready.


Posted on Sat Dec 8 05:50:53 CET 2001 from (12.243.71.112)

Tracy

From: wherever
Web page

Call me an optimist but I think George will get into the RRHOF. He should be inducted by the one person who could honor him the way he should, and that should be Eric Clapton. Obviously it would be posthumously but none the less I'm a firm believer in that he deserves every right to get in and garner the same recognition as both John and Paul. You would take that away because he didn't have as many hits as the other two? Have we become so jaded to the recording industry's ways that we overlook major influences simply because they didn't produce however many hits? I don't think George's songs were meant to be hits rather than his own stories he was finally able to share without John & Paul. If you talk about hits, then The Band didn't have that many and they got inducted.

George was a huge influence with the benefit concerts, and the first of its kind with "Bangledesh." This went as far as him giving even Bob Geldof advice for Live Aid and how it should be staged. His guitar playing, intricate and complicated gave way to many who play slide guitar. George brought forth what we call "world music" with his Eastern influences and introducing the sitar to the rock world.

What did John or Paul bring with their solo career? Did they influence many? Do people credit them for anything great that they might have started a whole new genre with?

Yeah, he was Nelson Wilbury but there's so much that's overlooked in this man's history, on his own.

Tracy


Posted on Sat Dec 8 03:46:25 CET 2001 from dv44m45.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.45.220)

Dexy

Butch -- The wife and I were at Carnegie Hall in '92 or '93, anxiously awaiting our guys, when the announer said "The Band will not perform tonight.." We got out money back, not being all that interested in Ms. Shocked. Bones -- You may be right about GH and the Rock Hall, but I sure hope JRR, Jann and the rest understand the profound influence his work has had on rock, pop, art and our culture in general. Jan -- And, the RCO All-Stars are the reason we got to witness Levon Helm being interviewed by Earl Canenbert (aka Euguene Levy of SCTV)!


Posted on Sat Dec 8 02:40:55 CET 2001 from spider-wb081.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.186)

butch

From: page six

well, not to tell too many tales out of school,,,,,, the reader's digest version is the michelle shocked was very control oriented & her husband (?) was a writer & had written a script of the show,, where each act had a "part" to play in her show,,, even where they wanted Taj to do a minstrel thing,,, can you imagine ??? she also thought that The Band should NOT do The Weight in their show & save it for her encore,, after hanging around for two hours while she did her act & then bring on everyone for a big finale,,,

NFW,,,,, Levon & Rick had no intentions of playing to her insanity driven ego, so they told her, & Taj told her,, NO WAY !!!! it went downhill from there,, & the gig @ Toads in new haven was the swan song of that ill-fated tour,,,

for example,,,, she had the merch guy redo the entire batch of shirts,, thousands of them, because her name wasnt bigger than The Band's,,, dig that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok, enough of the Valachi papers,,,


Posted on Sat Dec 8 02:05:33 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tb024.proxy.aol.com (64.12.104.29)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Wierd connection, but with all the coverage of Bin Laden at Tora Bora, I keep connecting 'Tora Bora' with 'Tura Lura'and that tune is stuck in my head. And I haven't even had that $8.00 stadium Bud yet...


Posted on Sat Dec 8 01:23:28 CET 2001 from svcr-adsl-216-37-220-133.epix.net (216.37.220.133)

Kevin Gilbertson

From: NE PA

Butch or anyone in the know:

What was the story with the Michelle Shocked tour? I've never heard the 'rest of the story'. I do like her Arkansas Traveller CD where Levon and Garth guest on one track and Uncle Tupelo guest on another. Great CD.

Can anyone share what happened on the tour?



Posted on Fri Dec 7 23:42:17 CET 2001 from spider-te041.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.191)

Calvin

I miss Uncle Tupelo a lot, not that Wilco and Son Volt, or Farrar solo dont make up for it by releasing more albums, but the mix and match of those two very different lyricist created such a perfect balance. I was unaware that Tupelo opened for the Band, Lord, I would have done about anything to catch that show. BTW, Roy Orbinson passed away Dec 6 I believe, maybe whoever said this is a tough time of year for musical legends was on to something. Also, listened to RCO-All Stars at work today, still seemed "flat" to me, quoting a prior poster. However, a young girl at my store, 23, asked to borrow 2 other CDS I had brought in-The Basement Tapes and the 2cd Paul Butterfield Band album-seemed she though East-West was the most incredible thing she had ever heard. Introducing someone to Butterfield and the Band (she new Dylan of course), its been a good day.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 23:09:21 CET 2001 from spider-wm053.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.173)

butch

From: Band-land

after reading the Wilco/Tweedy thread here,,,, let me remind ya'll that Uncle Tupelo,,,,, Jeff Tweedy's 1st group & WILCOs predessor,,, opened for The Band on the ill-fated michelle shocked tour.

it was a pleasure for me to watch the Tupelo guys jam everynight with Taj Mahal, also on the tour,,, they'd pick his brain & soak up everything they could from Taj, Rick & Levon & Randy & Weider, too,,,

so i wasnt surprised by their success,,, they worked hard for it,,,

they were good kids, too,,,

just a fyi,,,


Posted on Fri Dec 7 22:05:04 CET 2001 from m198214191155.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.191.155)

Pehr

Bob W: thanks for the article on neil and "Lets Roll". I look forward to hearing it.

I'm planning to listen to alot of Rick and cloister in this weekend. I'm grateful for his life and music.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 19:58:21 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

From: CT

Sam: You're right! Althought it's no Tumbleweed Connection, Elton's Songs From The West Coast is his best work in many years. You actually hear him playing the piano again. Small band, not over-produced, intimate vocals all made it a pleasure to hear.

I've seen two Gap ads with Robbie in it. One is all guys that starts out with Dwight Yoakam, then Robbie, then Goo Goo Dolls lead singer, then Shaggy. The other one starts out with Seal, then Alanis Morrisette, then Macy Gray, then Robbie. Are there any other ones with Robbie?


Posted on Fri Dec 7 19:22:20 CET 2001 from plantlogic.com (209.195.208.11)

bassmanlee

From: DE, USA
Web page

Nonsuch Records it is for Wilco's "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot", due out in April according to their website (above). Years ago Nonsuch was a budget classical label that released a lot of baroque chamber music (Franz Danzi anyone?), electronic music (Silver Apples of the Moon), and modern composers that the majors wouldn't touch with a 12-inch pole. It seemed to revive 20-25 yrs. ago with artists that straddled classical and pop, like the Kronos Quarted and Astor Piazzolla. Lately they have released discs by artists on the fringes of pop and roots, including Laurie Anderson, Bill Frisell, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Sam Phillips, Emmylou, Bob Telson, Duncan Sheik. Judging from the inital hit on my search, they may be distributed by Atlantic Records, so they are still tied in to the Big Boys. The website is interesting. Read the intro to the Gallery section by president Robert Hurwitz.

Another interesting label on the scene is Red House Records (www.redhouserecords.com). They are an independent label whose roster includes folk and roots artists such as Loudon Wainwright III (his new Last Man on Earth is great), John Gorka, Greg Brown, Tom Landa and the Paperboys. They released the "Nod To Bob" tribute. From their site: "Our philosophy as a label is to provide a home and environment in which creative artists can make albums in total freedom - without interference from mogul types just looking for the next hit single."

There may be hope yet!


Posted on Fri Dec 7 19:19:31 CET 2001 from (167.206.128.198)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

I would have the same expectation for a forthcoming Elton album as most of you have. But - you have to hear it. I had the radio on and kind of half-heard that this was a new EJ song, and before long I turned up the volume and was enjoying the wai it sounded. Don't dismiss it yet, until you give it a try.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 19:18:37 CET 2001 from dialup-63.215.113.130.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.215.113.130)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Jeff Tweedy has also often sung the praises of Bessie Smith. The Basement Tapes are crucial listening for the Wilco principals, as for Jay Farrar.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 17:17:48 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

We've come full circle here, from the RCO Allstars with Booker T & the MGs, to Neil Young's latest with Booket T & the MGs and Frank Sampedro. It was also recently announced that Mr. Young will be going back on tour with CS&N. There's been some speculation as to whether drummer Jim Keltner and any of the MGs will be part of that tour.

I'm setting aside part of this weekend to listen to as much Rick Danko as I can. It will make a difference.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 16:38:03 CET 2001 from blue.alltel.com (198.133.100.130)

Kevin Gilbertson

From: NE PA

Calvin - re: Wilco and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

I believe it is 'Nonesuch Records' with a reported release date of April 2002. I believe this is the label that also put out Red Dirt Girl by Emmylou Harris.

I really like this record. It'll be interesting to see if Wilco includes any new tracks (different than what have been floating around the Internet).

re: Royal Canal. Jeff Tweedy (Wilco frontman) regularly includes this in his solo sets.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 16:22:02 CET 2001 from rm0001b.studlife.fsu.edu (128.186.193.26)

Adam

From: The Rumor
Web page

I remember reading somewhere about a newly remastered 10CD version of the Basement Tapes? Can anyone confirm this? Does anyone want to trade for it? My trade list is on the web page lsited above.

Thanks.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 16:02:48 CET 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

From: Toronto

I'm with Peter Viney on the RCO All-Stars LP. It's as flat as the $8 stadium Bud that JTull Fan is anticipating. Especially disappointing in light of Levon's spirited rendition of "Washer Woman" and another song at a Hawkins gig I'd caught not long before. This is the Toronto show of the late '70s when Levon, Jerry Penfound, Pat Travers, Dr John and a couple other RCO-ers got up on stage with Hawkins' band - which at the time included King Biscuit Boy, Ken Kalmusky, Jack deKeyzer and Carl Mathers.

Like Dave Z, I just caught the Gap commercial with Robbie (and Alanis). Pardon my ignorance, but who were the others?

Laura P. mentioned "Royal Canal". Among the many places that lovely song turns up is the second Ian and Sylvia LP, the one with the original version of "Four Strong Winds". Funny, I was thinking of that song (FSW) yesterday, for some reason recalling a stay at a youth hostel in New Zealand 20 years ago, when all 12 guests were Canadians, and there was a guitar and we pieced together the words to the song. Among us was a couple from Simcoe who knew the Dankos, so there's a Band connection.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 15:20:47 CET 2001 from plantlogic.com (209.195.208.11)

bassmanlee

From: work, curse of the drinking class...

Thank you, Charlie Young for setting me straight regarding "Alfred G. Aronowitz". It wasn't the only thing the ex was ever, ahem, mistaken about!



Posted on Fri Dec 7 15:02:37 CET 2001 from spider-tk051.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.196)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa USA
Web page

Bayou Sam,

I heard Neil Young's "Let's Roll" this morning during my commute and found it chilling. It was,as you said, inspired by Flight 93 passenger Todd Beamer's last words and it is a beautiful tribute to him and all of the heroes on that flight. Neil Young's first person presentation gives the song an eerie realism.

Interestingly, I could not help but think that Neil sounds a bit like Robbie on this one. Check out the website posted above for some insight on the production and distribution of the song.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 14:41:58 CET 2001 from unprovisioned.centrivity.net (64.23.165.18)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

I am skeptical about the new Elton John album but, ...maybe he had one left in him. I heard he said this would be his last album. In any case, I am taking my wife to see Billy Joel/Elton John in DC in Jan. Our seats are 'obscurred', which probably means we are behind the Roadie's Port-O'-Let. Hopefully the sound will be ok but as long as there is beer (prob. $8.00 for a flat Bud)I'm OK. RCO-ALL-Stars: I've been seraching for this. Is it still in print or is it an E-BAY special?


Posted on Fri Dec 7 14:26:24 CET 2001 from du-tele3-042.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.42)

Peter Viney

Elton John: a lot of reviews have his new album down as the best in 25 years, but I also suspect that this is the original blurb from his promotions dept. I heard a few bits in record stores, but not enough to judge it. I’m not a prospective buyer because I find him too samey (Got Tumbleweed, Madman and Greatest Hits). But I wonder sometimes if people say new albums are crap without having heard them? You usually have to buy them to know. Long-suffering GB regulars will know my affection for ‘Tiny Dancer’ and ‘Levon’ from Madman Across The Water. In a magazine listing of ‘Best Films of 2001’ I was pleased to see ‘Almost Famous’ and in the ‘chapter to rewatch’ (DVD) note it had ‘Tiny Dancer’ where they all sing it on the bus. (See past discussions on whether she was ‘LA seamstress for the band’ or ‘LA Seamstress for The Band’). As for ‘Tumbleweed Connection’ it was a blatant homage to The Band, as Bernie Taupin has said, and none the worse for that.

‘RCO All-Stars’ – this was an album I was thrilled to buy (great original sleeve) on the day of release, and I played it solidly at the time for months. I now also have the Mobile Fidelity CD. Down the years, my retrospective view now seems to be the common one, “Impeccable performance – shame about the songs”, which was the story of Levon’s solo albums, except for “American Son” where he got the material he deserved. There are good writers on there, but nothing stunningly original. I was probably influenced by ‘Havana Moon’. Around the same time I was playing the Geoff and Maria Muldauer version until it wore out, and – er … it’s better. So is Chuck Berry’s original. The RCO version doesn’t add anything to the song. And so is the Eddie Cochran version of ‘Milk Cow Boogie’ better. And Elvis’s (but Eddie’s is better). I can imagine that the whole RCO album would be astonishingly good on stage. Wish I’d seen them.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 14:17:17 CET 2001 from spider-ta052.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.67)

Calvin

I've read quite a few places Sam that Elton John made a serious effort to duplicate his early 70s sound on this current album, in a related story a few days ago he announced from stage dutring a show that the album out would be his last, he'll continue to tour but not record-dont most do it the other way? I think some are writing EJ off to quickly, if memory serves he has the most consecutive years with a song entering the top 40, I remember in entering 20+ years at some point, am I nuts (and no fair referring to past GH posts on this question). Regardless I think the man has a legion of fans and devotees. Also, I know this came up a few months ago so I thought I'd mention it-Wilco has found a home with a label called Notsomuch I believe, meaning their finished album should be out shortly, woo hoo. And I've pulled out the RCO All-Stars and intend to play it a few times at my store today, so many of you liked it, although I did see Pat Brennan echoed my feeling (great playing, Levon singing well, not too good songs) that I figured I should listen to some more. Ive had more than a few albums, movies, books, etc that after storing them away because I didnt enjoy them-upon revisiting them years later I found they resonated so differently with me when I was in a different frame of mind.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 12:30:40 CET 2001 from webcachem05b.cache.pol.co.uk (195.92.194.15)

Roger Woods

From: Birmingham UK

Last night I saw the Robbie/Gap commercial TV during the Sopranos. Is this the first sighting in the UK on terrestrial?


Posted on Fri Dec 7 12:16:57 CET 2001 from 1cust20.tnt2.poughkeepsie.ny.da.uu.net (63.17.108.20)

Hi

Al Aronowitx had severe mental problems for years....he used to write extremely long paranoid letters to the Woodstock Times which they published probably because of his past reputation and connections....I'd be suspect of any of his later(80's) accounts,,


Posted on Fri Dec 7 10:57:55 CET 2001 from adsl-63-200-84-244.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net (63.200.84.244)

Shannan

From: California

Something different. When I was in high school in the late 80s, I listened to Robbie's music with my lights off and headphones on. My imagination would conjure poems (whatever I visioned). I have many poems I wrote from his cds (no I'm not a n amateur either). From Music for the Native Americans, to the song, The Vanishing Breed, this is my vision. The horse was the first to come to mind, I used to have one :( this is what I wrote in his memory.

In the distance A stallion dances in the sand Flashy gold coat, vivid as the sun His mane and tail whisking in the wind His eyes full of spirit, aware of his surroundings Nostrils flaring from every grasp of air his large lungs accept His body moving in a rhythmical pattern His heart beats thunderously like a drum not missing a beat as his powerful hooves pound the desert in each stride to ward off the heat from the hot sun

His inner-soul celebrates his freedom defeating this world's sorrow, pain, and worry He has fulfilled his commitment to his best friend..Man Pride is what he has and will live on forever May he run free among the highest mountains and heaven of eternity.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 08:03:06 CET 2001 from 1cust90.tnt1.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.28.242.90)

rollie

A bit short sighted I think,John G, but I'm with ya on Tumbleweed Connection! Still one of my alltime favorites,no doubt inspired by the brown album!


Posted on Fri Dec 7 06:39:38 CET 2001 from spider-tp064.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.204)

JohnG

From: Long Beach N.Y.

Elton John has never raised his level above Tumbleweed Connection ,,,,,,,kinda like The Band..never coming close to Big Pink and Brown ever again.........only difference to me is that The Band has made an impression on people that EJ could never hope to accomplish...........


Posted on Fri Dec 7 05:51:20 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.21)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Yeah I know - this is the third time tonight - sorry.

I heard a brand new song on the radio yesterday that Neil Young JUST recorded. It's called "Let's Roll". This was the last thing said by Todd Beamer (spell?) that his wife heard over the cell phone before he and others rushed the terrorists on the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11th. It's quite a musical reaction to the incident by Neil - a powerful song.

I think that the last time Neil had this kind of reaction, it produced the song, "Ohio".


Posted on Fri Dec 7 05:35:35 CET 2001 from spider-tn041.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.61)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

Sam! Elton John? ROCKIN????? Come on. Rockin and music played on Adult Contemporary - it doesn't happen. The edge is gone -it's all schmaltz with some songs that have a tap your foot groove - at best. Then again Elton John, to me, hasn't written a good "rockin" song in 25 years.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 05:20:13 CET 2001 from spider-to042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.62)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

I saw the Gap ad with Robbie tonight... good stuff... gravelly voice... loved it...


Posted on Fri Dec 7 05:08:21 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.21)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Oh yeah, one more thing - I keep catching the new stuff from Elton John, and it's great. The guy is ROCKIN'. Anyone else?


Posted on Fri Dec 7 05:02:54 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.21)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Well, one thing has been proven in the latest posts - people have different tastes and opinions. That dosen't make a person "insane" - it makes them human. That's all.

Carlie Young - nice thoughts on George in your post.

I read a George interview at the time he was re-releasing ATMP, and he mentioned that there was some great Pete Drake playing that hadn't come out the first time around (I think it's the song "I Live for You"), and how nice it would be for his (Drake's) family to hear some of his playing they hadn't known about. That was George.

I've been listening to alot of George lately. I pulled all his stuff out of the 'ol collection. I was listening to the wonderful album, "Living in the Material World", and I noticed something - the last tune on the album, a song called "That Is All", is really Band-ish. I think the Band fan in George comes through on this tune. He even goes after some Richard-like vocal parts. For the six of you who have this album - go check that song out and let me know what you think.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 04:56:04 CET 2001 from spider-wk074.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.184)

calvin

Gotta agree with you Tony, the fact that half the Beatles are gone, not to mention Rick and Richard, seems just so wrong-so utterly unbelievable. Even now as Ringo and Paul enter their 60s they still seem so young to me, eternally existing and such young, positive energy that just bursts forth in the early 60s. I'd guess though the best thing about being an artist, or at least one with talent, is youre never really gone. Rick's voice travels through my home at least once a week, I suppose not having actually known him as some here did it is so much easier for me to accept the recording as Rick, or others, still living on-but the music continues to enrich me, so in a sense they are still here, no?


Posted on Fri Dec 7 04:42:11 CET 2001 from pm3-pt20.pcnet.net (206.105.29.94)

Laura P.

From: East Berlin, Connecticut
Web page

A friend informed me that I was mentioned on the GB. Wow! I didn't realize anyone even remembered me. To be honest, I haven't been keeping up with the GB because I just don't have the patience to read non-Band-related stuff (no, NLSC doesn't have anything to do with it). I'm enjoying the Band just as much on my own, though. I've been obsessed with the new "Tree With Roots" improved basement tape set for the past few months, and I've gushed about it quite a bit on my blog, but I haven't really seen the point of posting about it here because, well... no one ever talks about the basement tapes. Actually, I had the urge to post two nights ago--I was going to ask, does anyone know what that incredible "jingle-jangle" instrument is in "Banks of the Royal Canal"? (Also used in "Cool Water.") Is that Garth's clavinette? (??)


Posted on Fri Dec 7 03:48:07 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-td051.proxy.aol.com (64.12.104.171)

Amy Jo & Ray

From: western PA

HOT HOT show last night at Club Cafe on the southside of Pittsburgh. Professor Louie & the Crowmatix were AWESOME. Small crowd, but they gave it their all and then some. Michael Falzarano (of Hot Tuna) is along for the ride doing the guitar work for them. Very personable guy, had a great conversation with him. Prof. Louie was his usual down-to-earth guy offstage and onstage he's just SO Talented. Miss Marie--ahh THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!! 1st for turning us on to the Kevin Doherty Strange Weather cd (we played it twice last night - love it) and secondly for asking Ray & I to sing along on your mike to Crazy Mama. Ray would have been happy just hearing it, but singing along REALLY MADE his night. You are a sweetheart. You guys in the midwest get out there and catch them if their in your neighborhood. Peace.


Posted on Fri Dec 7 03:41:24 CET 2001 from mke-65-29-179-240.wi.rr.com (65.29.179.240)

tony

I'm really starting to feel the passing of these great artists. We just lost George and tomorrow will be twenty-one years since the world lost John Lennon. Then Rick... Maybe it's because I just listened to Robbie's "Fallen Angel" today and it made me think of what a gift was stolen from the world with Richard's death. I can hardly ever make it through that song. "I don't believe it's all for nothing" What a beautiful line... I know I'm being selfish in my reasoning, but this is why music is so important to so many people. Music does heal like Garth said on TLW and that is why we feel these connections to these artists whether we ever knew them or not. With their deaths we not only lose that person and their wonderful qualities and talents, but we seem to lose a little part of ourselves. When things that matter most to us disappear it forces us to confront our own mortality- and I think sometimes what we discover is frightening, at times overwhelming...

Sorry for the rambling, just some thoughts. On a lighter note, let's forget the recent arguments about which musicians are better or whatever, humor me: Why do you love music? And give me one example of any song, lyric, sound, moment that shows it.

Thanks


Posted on Fri Dec 7 02:59:10 CET 2001 from 1cust246.tnt2.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.25.9.246)

RCO-ALLSTARS ---PURE SOUL!


Posted on Fri Dec 7 02:52:23 CET 2001 from 1cust246.tnt2.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.25.9.246)

rollie

Nick! I'm with you man! If you can't enjoy the RCO Allstars, you must have a "hole in your soul!".But hey, I'm sorry I got us onto this RCO thing in the first place. Can't we just go back to bashing Robbie?????????


Posted on Fri Dec 7 00:24:12 CET 2001 from spider-tl024.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.184)

h evans

From: alabama

I'm sitting here listining to "all Things Must Pass", and had to respond to Calvin's latest post. First of all, let me say that I am a huge Beatles, Harrison fan, but I understand where Calvin was coming from in his posts about Harrison. I was never an Elvis fan, but I respected his talent and was saddened when he died. To my point, I could listen to "Acadian Driftwood" over and over and over and over ...


Posted on Thu Dec 6 23:27:58 CET 2001 from spider-tl014.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.179)

Bumbles

From: The Garden State

Al Aronowitz was the New York Post's "pop" columnist (as well as being--like Bumbles--an alumnus of Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey) for years in the pre-Murdoch 60s and 70s when it was a very different paper than it is today. He wrote often about Dylan and the Band and seemed to enjoy uncommon access to them. That is probably no longer the case with the surviving members of the Band since Aronowitz was an important source for Barney Hoskyn's "Across the Great Divide." Among the unflattering tidbits was Aronowitz' tale of returning to his Woodstock home in the wee hours one morning in 1984 to find Richard Manuel and his then consort burglarizing it. "[Rick]…was in on it, too," he added.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 23:12:18 CET 2001 from wc12.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.85.79)

John D

AS RICHARD MANUEL WOULD SAY, "I JUST WANT TO BREAK EVEN!"


Posted on Thu Dec 6 23:03:18 CET 2001 from m20677150207.austin.cc.tx.us (206.77.150.207)

Pehr

Nice Triv Quiz David Powell. I was still reeling from the bomb you dropped on me revealing that's Charlie McCoy on "Desolation Row"! I may have known that at one time or another, but blocked it out of my mind I guess because all this time I kept thinking it was Mike Bloomfield. I forgot Charlie McCoy played like that over the years, part of getting old I guess. I keep thinking of him as a harp player. Ignorant, ignorant, ignorant...

He was going to be my guess but I didn't think lightning would strike twice.

I too am a huge RCO fan. I had just started experimenting with guitar, harmonica racks and nasal singing around that time, and the night they were on SNL was my first experiment with psychadelia. I'd never seen Butterfield before this, only heard his name. I didn't know at that time you could make a harmonica sound anything like that. when they finished I remember bouncing on my friends trampoline for hours thinking about what I'd just seen and heard. The next week I picked up Tony Glover's book on how th play Harmonica and got turned on to the real lowdown shit for which I'll always be grateful.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 22:44:18 CET 2001 from dialup-65.56.132.5.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (65.56.132.5)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Calvin, you will no doubt notice that there are any number of heathens on this GB who enjoy neither NLSC (peruse the GB archives for interesting discussions of this album) nor Moon Struck One (same). In much the same way you cannot fully embrace George Harrison. We haven't seen much of Laura Petix since she bought NLSC, so bad is the effect of that album on some of our worthies. Fear not, as all things must pass. And, Laura, we do miss you.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 22:37:40 CET 2001 from dialup-65.56.132.5.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (65.56.132.5)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

As noted on the RCO page here on the site, the RCO album sold poorly, even though the record company threw a bunch of promo money at it. The group also performed on SNL, fairly soon after The Band's last appearance there (Oct 76), but that didn't help much either. Revisiting the album is kind of interesting. It sounds to me at least like an offshoot of Moondog Matinee, except that the writing is not of the highest caliber. Levon however is in really great voice.

As I've said before, another missing element of post LW efforts--RCO included--is a lack of interesting rhythm. RCO falls back on well-established forms, which gives it an overly familiar feel, like nothing new is happening. Listening to it today just re-emphasizes that first reaction I had to it. But it is great to hear that voice, a real treasure.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 22:36:41 CET 2001 from pc51-116.hiof.no (158.36.51.116)

jh

I bought the RCO All-Stars album in my teens, because Booker T. and the MGs were on it (being a bass player, I always looked for records with James Jamerson and Duck Dunn). And Levon's voice blew me away. The album is not his best work, but it's still nice to listen to, IMHO. And it made me aware of this thing called The Band. A year or so later I saw TLW at our local cinema. And the rest is history, as they say.

The first time I met Lee, I told him that I heard the RCO album before I discovered The Band. He sort of liked that... :-)


Posted on Thu Dec 6 22:24:03 CET 2001 from spider-wb023.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.158)

Calvin

I know exactly what you mean about not getting how I'm not fond of the RCO All-Stars album, the other day someone said they werent a fan of Northern Lights, SOuthern Cross and I almost fell out of my chair. I could listen to Arcadian Driftwood and It Makes No DIfference and nothing else for the rest of my life and be content, I mean not really, but it blew my mind someone didnt like that album. I saw Levon and the Barn Burners down at a place called Fat Fish Blue in CLeveland this summer, what was really cool is it was a daytime concert, it is an ongoing Friday concert during the summer that usually focuses on "light Jazz" artists but one weekend Levon was there, lotta fun. Luckily I got to see Rick shortly before his far too early passing, Rick was never the guy in the group with the most talent but he is so far and away my favorite it isnt even funny.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 22:10:01 CET 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

Further to Charlie Young's post, I believe Al Aronowitz wrote the liner notes for the Bengali Bauls at the Big Pink LP. Is that one out on CD yet?


Posted on Thu Dec 6 21:26:43 CET 2001 from wcs2-pent-2.nipr.mil (206.38.114.100)

Nick

From: Virginia

Calvin, I love that album. No, I'm not dissapointed in the least. In fact it's a treat to hear a band that great and if I ever get a chance to meet Levon Helm I'll tell him so and thank him for getting all those great players together for a whole record. The Ties That Bind is my favorite song but I like all of it. I really like that style of music, alot of soul and gritty playing. I just wish I coulda seen one of the shows. Great packaging on that album too. How any Band fan couldn't like that record mystifies me but to each his own.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 20:56:37 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta081.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.56)

Calvin

I dont know Bob, I think they are both right. I dont think the solo Beatles do get credit for their solo work. I heard the word "disapointment" bandied around so much in the media the last week to describe GH solo work. I dont think 3 No 1 and 13 Top 40 singles can be ever considered failing, but then I don't think that is the sales track record that they are looking for in the HOF, although I do agree with someone who posted GH should merit consideration because of the "creation" of the ROck n ROll benefit, him and Harry Chapin simply don't get the respect they deserve for what they did in the 70s, caring when the cynicism of watergate had set in. I'd put CHapin in the HOF in a heartbeat, but I doubt if he'd ever get on the ballot. A real shame, did you know he won an Oscar as a documentary filmmaked in the 60s before he got popular as a recording artist?


Posted on Thu Dec 6 20:50:54 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta081.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.56)

Calvin

I've seen Levon 4 times Nick, and I think the Barnburners are a much better group than the RCO All-Stars, I think the "new" Band was better than the RCO All-Stars. I like Dr. John a whole lot and have about a 8-9 Paul Butterfield albums. I guess that is the problem, that album should be great, one of the all-time greatest jam albums, but I liked Ricks solo disc a whole lot more. I don't know, didnt you find it a little dispointing? just a little? Levon's comment about their being too many chiefs is probably right though, all that incredible talent, something went wrong. I so much prefer the other 3 Levon Albums I have, maybe because they were %100 his show? I don't know?


Posted on Thu Dec 6 20:45:07 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ta081.proxy.aol.com (64.12.105.56)

Calvin

Amanda, Im one of the happiest people youd ever meet-and heavily involved in volunteer work and numerous charities-Im sure if we met we'd get along fine. I'm quite sorry you took my post that way. But I didnt really see it as negative, I said even though I wasnt a fan of his work I feel bad for his passing because he seemed like a really great human being. I'm sorry I never got into Harrison's solo work, I just didn't. But I don't think I ever criticized his work, me not being a fan is hardly the same thing as saying he isnt good, which would be a statement so utterly foolish as to be laughable. I recognize and appreciate that many people of extremely good taste adore the man's work. I probably should have said it better, but I meant no offense. I do apologize if I offended anyone.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 20:35:54 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Mike, you are correct. All of the songs I listed featured the late Pete Drake on pedal steel guitar. Mr. Drake was from Augusta, Georgia. Before he became one of the top session players in Nashville, he had a band based in Atlanta during the 1950s. Like Ronnie Hawkins, Mr. Drake, as a band leader, mentored many young musicians. During those years in Atlanta, at one time or another his band featured such future stars as Jerry Reed, Roger Miller, Doug Kershaw and Joe South.

After moving to Nashville, Pete Drake became one of the most in-demand session players of all time. He first played with Bob Dylan on the "John Wesley Harding" album and recorded several subsequent albums with Dylan. It was through Dylan that Mr. Drake met George Harrsion and went on to play on "All Thing Must Pass". On the remastered CD version of that album, it's amazing how much Mr. Drake's pedal steel soars out of Phil Spector's wall of sound on the title track.

While playing on those sessions with Mr. Harrison, Mr. Drake met Ringo Starr and later went on to produce Ringo's "Beaucoups of Blues" album in Nashville. Pete Drake passed away in 1988 at the age of 56.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 20:16:29 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

From: CT

It will be interesting to see if George ever gets into the Rock Hall for his solo work. I tend to doubt it, but there are some interesting aspects to his work. All Things Must Pass and the Bangladesh Concert are very important to the history of music, and that might be enough alone to get him in. He was influential in the marriage of eastern and western music through his friend Ravi Shankar. He also should get credit for being the catalyst for creating the Travelin' Wilburys. Some Hall of Famers have gotten in for a lot less.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 19:39:35 CET 2001 from garco.cpe.newsouth.net (64.90.4.86)

Mike Carrico

David Powell: Pete Drake?


Posted on Thu Dec 6 19:03:10 CET 2001 from spider-wo013.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.23)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Little Brother, thanks for the Tolkien link. I was not aware of the discord in the family over the upcoming movie. I for one can't wait to see the film. I've read the trilogy and the Hobbit several times and am reading Tom Shippey's detailed discetion of Tolkien's work titled JRR Tolkien Author of the Century. Peter V. you might be interested in it as well, as it shows how Tolkiens characters reflect the various classes of British society. I was there as a teenager, opening night, for the animated movie back in the seventies and always watch The Hobbit when it's on TV. I've made my wife read the books, she's use to detective novels and Nora Robert's novels, so this was quite a departure for her. Finally,i will be there on opening night once again to see if this amazing story can be pulled off on the big screen - hope so!


Posted on Thu Dec 6 18:52:52 CET 2001 from citrix2.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.7)

John Cass

From: VT

Just wanted to mention to the GBers that tommorow Dec 7 would of been Harry Chapin's 59th Birthday. I know this isn't Band related but for those of you who know who Harry was and what he stood for will hopefully throw a few dollars into a charity of there choice. Harry Chapin was a man who gave more of himself to the causes that he stood for mostly World Hunger. I will always love Harry's music and for any of you that want to listen to a great album purchase Greatest Stories Live... what a album!!


Posted on Thu Dec 6 18:52:48 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-td082.proxy.aol.com (64.12.104.187)

Kevin T.

From: Pittsburgh

I've been reading the comments as to what sunk the RCO All-Stars and I believe that what hurt them was that Levon got sick either during or on the eve of the tour. A friend of mine was working for a local paper and we had set up an interview with Levon only to find out that he had cancelled the tour (damn!). The show was to be at the Leona Theatre which was down in Homestead,Pa.-it was torn down some years back and is now the site of a minimart.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 18:45:43 CET 2001 from 0-1pool74-156.nas22.vienna1.va.us.da.qwest.net (63.159.74.156)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny
Web page

Al Aronowitz was a friend to George Harrison and gives himself credit for introducing the Beatles to Bob Dylan and marijuana (though I'm not sure I'd be so proud of the later in light of the fact that smoking probably caused George's lung cancer). Click on the link above for more information about Al Aronowitz and several of his articles.

I haven't had a chance to post here since George died since I was on the road last week in Philadelphia and Long Island, New York due to the sudden death of my father-in-law. It was weird seeing the news about George on a hotel TV the day after attending a funeral. I am thankful that I did see George in concert in Washington, DC during his only real solo tour of the US in 1974. I am also glad that an acquaintance was able to get me a CD-R copy of a soundboard recording of that show.

I was a huge Harrison fan and think that it is disgusting that he was not inducted into the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame in his lifetime (like Frank Zappa, I assume he will receive the award soon after his death). He deserves it not only for his key role in the creation of the rock'n'roll benefit concert concept, but also the fact that he produced a fine solo body of work--including the only true masterwork of any of the solo work by the ex-Beatles (ALL THINGS MUST PASS).

Much of the media coverage of George's career has focused on the Beatles and platitudes such as calling him "the quiet Beatle." The most intelligent thing I've seen so far is the cover story on the new TIME magazine.

One interesting tidbit about George that I once heard from a sitar-playing psychologist is that he was the one who insisted that the guys stay in tune during the screaming concerts of '64-'66. Even though they could barely hear themselves above the mindless teenage screeching of the audience, George was the one who wanted to try to maintain the same integrity that they demonstrated back in the Cavern days. He maintained that integrity throughout his life and I will miss having him on this planet.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 18:37:54 CET 2001 from spider-tl024.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.184)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa USA

Calvin, several days ago you posted.....

......"There has been something rolling around my mind the last 2 days though. Ive heard said time and time again how George, and in fact the other Beatles, never were able to maintain their Beatles chart success. When someone, whose named Im afraid I didnt catch, questioned the statement and said the Beatles spent a few years knocking themselves out of the No 1 spot I started thinking. GH had 13 top 40 singles, 2 No 1, and I belive 5 Top 10 Albums in about a 15 years span, given the other being similiar we'd have maybe 10 No 1 and 50 Top 40 singles, so why are the Beatles solo work viewed as not living up to expectations? I cant think of any 5 groups combined whose solo members have had their success."

Today you posted......

....."I seriously doubt if George or Ringo will ever make the Rock n Roll HOF, their solo careers are seen as disapointments by many, and their sales record isnt that strong-which other than the "Early Influences" is a big factor. 13 top 40 singles in 30 years isnt all that impressive."

So which shall it be ?


Posted on Thu Dec 6 17:31:27 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Calvin: I would like to say that this post has nothing to do with musical tastes. I respect the fact that we all have different opinions and ideas regarding what we think may or may not be good music. More often than not your posts are so extremely negative that it is actually disappointing for me, to come to the GB and read something you have written. You seem to enjoy spitting venom and then trying to sail over it on the Good Ship Lollipop...to maybe somehow lessen the blow??? I find it amazing that no one commented about your insensitive post on the day after George Harrison's passing. Your words that day were so cold and tactless. I could not understand how someone could be so heartless in their words about a great man only hours after his death. Calvin, I really hope that you can come to terms with what is making you so miserable in life.

Jan, I am sorry if you find this post offensive. I just believe in humility and treating others with respect and consideration.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 17:26:35 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

As a follow up to Bill's post regarding Grady Martin -- Mr. Martin did play with Ronnie Hawkins during sessions recorded in Nashville in April 1960. In addition to Mr. Martin, the all-star session group included the great Hank Garland on electric guitar, Floyd Cramer on piano, Levon Helm on drums, Bob Moore on bass and the Anita Kerr singers.

Mr. Martin recorded with The Hawk again in Nashville in April 1966, with Fred Carter, Jr. producing. Other muscians on that session included Charlie McCoy on harmonica, John Till on guitar, Dave Lewis on drums and bob Boucher on bass. Ronnie Hawkins recorded again with Grady Martin in 1972 & 1973 during sessions for Monument Records. Other musicians on those sessions included a large line-up of the top Nashville session players. (I found the afore mentioned information listed at The Hawk's website)

Here's a music trivia question -- What do the following songs have in common: George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass", Bob Dylan's "Lay Lady Lay", Ronnie Hawkins' "High Blood Pressure (1974)", Charlie Rich's "Behind Closed Doors", Tammy Wynette's "Stand By Your Man" and Lynn Anderson's "Rose Garden"?


Posted on Thu Dec 6 17:09:10 CET 2001 from (209.166.233.21)

Jon Lyness

From: New York City

Take it easy there, Nick...

Tommy, thanks for mentioning that George Harrison wrote "Sunshine Life for Me" on the Ringo album, in addition to accompanying the Band (minus Richard) on it. I listened to it this morning, for the first time in 10 years or so...still sounds great. I remember liking the quirky, joyful backing on that song long before I knew who the Band was or had heard anything by them...even before I'd discovered their work with Bob Dylan...which means that "Sunshine Life for Me" was the very first Band song/Band-related song I ever heard. All these years later, that's a pretty funny thought!


Posted on Thu Dec 6 16:48:05 CET 2001 from wcs2-pent-2.nipr.mil (206.38.114.100)

Nick

From: Virginia

Calvin, I happen to think RCO album is great. I own it and listen to it all the time. I don't think there's a bad song on it and the playing is near perfect. The bottom line is that the All Stars rocked and Levon has always rocked greatly. You probably never saw a Band show, a Levon show or any other incarnation because if you did I guarantee you wouldn't ever question anything. I mean, your telling me that an album with Booker T & the MG's, DR John, Levon, Hank Carter ETC. isn't any good. Are you insane? I'm sorry to be so hard on you but you really don't know what your talking about.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 14:42:26 CET 2001 from ip-63-121-116-222.new-castle.de.fcc.net (63.121.116.222)

bassmanlee

From: DE, USA

Ben Pike - Sorry, but George did not play on Bromberg's "The Holdup". He IS given songwriting credit, although it has been widely reported that he had no memory of ever meeting Bromberg or contributing to the song. Story had it that they met at a mutual friend's house and somewhere in the course of the evening the song got written and George was in the room. Bromberg and his publishers were nervous and added his name to the credits. The rambling liner notes to the LP by "Alfred G. Aronowitz" (a nom de plume for someone...my ex knew who it was, but not I) merely state, "As for George Harrison, they met while robbing a stagecoach in Englewood, NJ." Would love to know more about that story. For you trivia fans, while George was not at the session, David Amram contributed french horn.

Spent most of yesterday scraping paint from my back porch. There are speakers out there so I had a Band day - Pink, Brown, Stage Fright (not remastered), Moondog, Robbie's first. Still can't get into the Robbie too much, save for two or three songs. "Somewhere Down The Crazy River" and "Broken Arrow". This record REALLY sounds like songs written for movies. Back at it today, so I guess it's on to Rock of Ages and the three PLW discs! (What a way to spend my days off!) While it was a little hard to hear over the heat gun, some of the tracks on Stage Fright, particularly "Rumor" seemed different than I remember from the LP. Maybe Jan has noted this, but were some of the Todd mixes used on the initial CD release? I love the aternate takes. I am still impressed at the completeness of the basic tracks and minimum amount of overdubbing on the final versions. The aternate of Jemima Surrender is close, but the slight timing difference when they hit the two ascending chords after the first two lines makes it just not quite "there" yet. This shows a kind of in-studio tinkering and chemistry that I most associate with the Beatles. Speaking of which, if anyone has a spare copy of Lewisjohn's book detailing the Beatles sessions, I'd love to get my mitts on it!

And these mid-week days off are because I'm working the weekend and will therefore not be able to see Levon at the Chameleon in Lancaster. It's a very nice club if you can make it, although Lancaster is not the easiest place to get to. Have some scrapple for me!


Posted on Thu Dec 6 13:31:43 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp53.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.53)

Diamond Lil

Calvin: Thanks for the info on John howeveryouspellhisname :-)Much appreciated. I do like the guy's voice...alot.

Is it just me, or is there truly some kind of impending feeling of dread at the approaching 2 year anniversary of Rick's death? I wish I could understand why as December 10th gets closer, I find myself getting more and more teary eyed..when I miss him _everyday_ of the year. Anyone else feeling this way?

Time for work for me now. Good to get my mind on something else I suppose. Have a good day everyone. Huuuuug Jan :-)


Posted on Thu Dec 6 09:21:10 CET 2001 from pm3-006.efn.org (206.163.180.6)

Deb

From: Oregon

Dave Z: No, your wife was not messing with you. That was Robbie on that Gap commercial, wearing glasses, looking very intellectual, playing guitar, singing with two other people. I was at a friend's house and SHE took a bathroom break when the commercial came on; I yelled for her to come look, but she arrived too late. I don't think she believed me either.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 05:13:45 CET 2001 from spider-wg083.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.58)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

I was playing a little on-line euchre and giving Cahoots another listen. This outing seems like RR's experimentation with trying to write songs for the movies. Where Do We Go from here and Shoot Out In Chinatown have that 70's movie song feel to them as does Volcano (almost to a cheesy degree). Smoke Signal seems to be an apparent attempt to write a pop song. The more i listen to this album, the furthest it seems from an atypical Band album (aside from River Hymn which could fit on any of the first three and Life is a Carnival). The album/cd lacks that mythic charm that the first three have. It also feels the most dated of their material. I always have to relisten to this effort cause i know it has it's handful of supporters and i want to hear what they hear. I use to denounce NLSC and i've recanted on that stance.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 04:59:17 CET 2001 from spider-tp032.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.187)

Bayou Sam

From: life

Lil - that was a wonderful story. You should send it to Readers digest, really - that's the kind of human story they like.

Amanda - I'm afraid that Levon is NOT signing in those photos. One of the photos has a mic stand in it at such an angle that it looks like a vocal mic. Then in another shot it actually looks like he's probably signing, or just mouthing the words to himself. That shot made me smile, and made me a little sad too. He does look great though dosen't he?.

Last night I caught the tail end of a live interview with Dr. John on WFUV radio. He's playing four gigs at BB Kings club in NYC. He has a new CD coming out.

The BB King x-mas CD is getting great reviews. I gotta pick it up.

I've thought about George in the Rock and Roll HOF. What is the criteria for getting in there? I guess he wouldn't qualify if it purely on how much you were in the charts over the years. If the quality of the music counts - maybe. He ought to merit some consideration for pretty much inventing the rock charity concert idea.........I can't help shaking my head, and wondering why?, when I think that as that fabulous concert for NYC was going on, George was lying in a hospital ( if he was at Staten Island yet) dying just a subway ride away from the show. He shoulda been on that stage playing the lead on "Let It Be" - damn.

I took a quick look in my Beastle recording book for the sessions for "And Your Bird Can Sing", and it lists the day they recorded the guitar parts. According to the records, and the master tapes, The Beatles were the only ones in the studio. I'd love to hear that Ringo interview. I'd be glad to send a blank tape if anyone has it. This has my curiousity.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 04:20:00 CET 2001 from spider-wk074.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.184)

calvin

One of the problems with the career of the RCO All-Stars is the album simply isnt all that great, in fact given the incredible amount of talent it is a downright disapointment. Levon was in pretty good voice, and the playing was good, but the song selection was very poor, it never really showed the ability of the musicians, nor the singer. I seriously doubt if George or Ringo will every make the Rock n Roll HOF, their solo careers are seen as disapointments by many, and their sales record isnt that strong-which other than the "Early Influences" is a big factor. 13 top 40 singles in 30 years isnt all that impressive.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 03:33:25 CET 2001 from dv44m45.lawrence.ks.us (24.124.45.220)

Dexy

This may be way too out there, but I'd like to recommend we petition Mr. JRR for George Harrison's long-awaited induction into the Rock Hall solo. In my opinion, Messers. Wenner, Robertson, et.al., have decided to phase in the Fabs over time to keep us oldsters intersted. Ipso facto, the "about f-ing time" t-shirt episode for Paul. George was eligible first, as I understand it, because of Wonderwall. I'm not going to list the many reasons behind his being qualified -- he is and was. Seems to me that Robbie has a lot of influence there, and of course, he's a fan of George's (and vice versa). If there's a website where we can post messages to Robbie, I'll be there.


Posted on Thu Dec 6 03:01:31 CET 2001 from spider-tm053.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.68)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa USA

Pat,

Was Andy Griffith with them ?


Posted on Thu Dec 6 02:47:07 CET 2001 from mat-20-7.enter.net (207.16.157.109)

Little Brøther

From: the old Same place
Web page

Any other Band fans who are into "Lord of the Rings" may be interested in the linked article, which mars the crescendo of hype preceding this month's film release of "The Fellowship of the Ring".

The article alleges that there is an "acrimonious feud" between JRRT's son, Christopher, and his son Simon (JRR's grandson), occasioned by Simon's positive attitude towards the film project.

This quote caught my eye: "J R R Tolkien signed away the film rights to The Lord of the Rings for just £10,000 in 1968, five years before his death at the age of 81. According to most accounts, he did so to pay an outstanding tax bill. Since then, the loss of what was destined to be a lucrative franchise is said to have been a consistent source of irritation to Christopher, who was always more involved in his father's work than his siblings John, Michael and Priscilla."

Hmmm, what does this remind me of? ...a stubborn old man permanently pissed off at a "pencil-whipping" over two decades ago at the hands of a bunch of suits in the entertainment industry that changed his life forever...

Maybe Peter can let us know if there's an Internet forum where Christopheristas and Simonistas snarl in perpetual mortal combat.

And where some anguished peacemaker finally chastises: Hey, dudes! Let's not forget-- it's about the HOBBITS!


Posted on Wed Dec 5 23:50:02 CET 2001 from spider-ta073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.78)

Ben Pike

From: Cleveland TX

My sourse on the "And Your Bird Can Sing" is .... Ringo, on his Yellow Submarine radio series... someone should be able to check... But then, in Max Weinberg's book on drummers there are all kinds of tall tales about the drumming being redone by studio guys, including on Beatle Records....


Posted on Wed Dec 5 23:41:50 CET 2001 from 1cust196.tnt2.poughkeepsie.ny.da.uu.net (63.17.108.196)

Hi

I always thought the RCO group maybe were hijacked into the Blues Brothers having seen them the last time at a NYC show on New Years Eve and a surprise was John Belushi introduced them.......little did we know he'd be doing his horrible......actually they were funny...but I think Pat Brennan pointed out previously that the record wasn't selling and it wasn't happening anyway....personally I loved the group....saw a great New Hampshire gig outdoors one Summer....Milkcow with literally the sun going down..


Posted on Wed Dec 5 23:40:00 CET 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

Following up on David Powell's entry regarding Grady Martin, I believe Martin was in on some of Ronnie Hawkins' Nashville sessions in the early '60s. In which case it's likely that he met - if not played or recorded with - at least Levon Helm and possibly other Hawks. He may also have been on one or two of Hawkins' '70s LPs recorded in Nashville, though there's no Band involvement on those that I can think of, other than Stan Szelest.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 22:51:22 CET 2001 from dialup-65.56.133.230.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (65.56.133.230)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Bob, they were all in Chicago last weekend, Nanci included. Also, I've already accepted the impossibility of such a liason. Alas....


Posted on Wed Dec 5 22:43:43 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Sorry to hear about guitarist Grady Martin -- thank you Rosalind for passing the word. Mr. Martin was truly a legend in the music business, and not just in Nashville, but all over the world. He played on hundreds upon hundreds of memorable recordings over the years. Off the top of my head, I can think of a couple connections to The Band. Mr. Martin was band leader during the sessions for the recording of Joan Baez's "Any Day Now" album released in 1968. Included on this album were Ms. Baez's versions of "Tears of Rage" and "I Shall Be Released". Mr. Martin was also leader for the sessions for Ms. Baez's "Blessed Are..." album which included her version of "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down". (This 1971 album also included versions of Lennon/McCartney's "Let It Be" and Jesse Winchester's "The Brand New Tennessee Waltz".)

Although Ms. Baez incurred the wrath of many Band fans for butchering the lyrics to "The Night...", I can't imagine that Robbie Robertson was too upset since her version made it into the Top Ten chart. Her single version, as well as the "Blessed Are..." album, were both certified gold by the RIAA, making it surely one of the most commercially successful recordings of a Robertson song. Her version of the song would also be included on several subsequent Baez compilations as well.

One of my favorite Grady Martin contributions is the beautiful, Spanish-flavored guitar part he played on Marty Robbins' "El Paso". (You can hear his influence in the acoustic guitar parts that Charlie McCoy added on Dylan's "Desolation Row".)


Posted on Wed Dec 5 22:43:12 CET 2001 from m198214190216.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.190.216)

Pehr

Re the demise of the RCO All Stars project, my educated guess would be that this project became the Blues Brothers.Looking over a couple Blues Brothers albums the other night at a friends house this occured to me.For what its worth. Details anyone?


Posted on Wed Dec 5 21:52:33 CET 2001 from spider-tk063.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.203)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa. USA

To further add to the confusion......

It's Patty Griffin and Nanci Griffith.

Pat, it appears Nanci Griffin may have the night off, in which case........best of luck.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 21:30:26 CET 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

Thanks to Douglas Brown for his helpful Ferdinand comments. Presumably some old Canadian chum of the Hawks/Band was caught running around naked in some US city - not necessarily Baltimore, which may have been chosed because it 'rhymes' with Doukhobour (sp?). Some years later, the Guess Who would sing about Albert Flasher; perhaps Ferd and Ab were related?


Posted on Wed Dec 5 21:06:03 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

Bayou Sam: I also thought it looked as if Levon was singing in the new photos. That would be the most wonderful news!


Posted on Wed Dec 5 20:43:43 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

From: CT

When Levon was asked what happened to the RCO All Stars, his response was "too many Chiefs, not enough Indians". Obviously, Levon was the only chief when the record was made, for he sang lead on every song. However, when they made their TV debut on SNL, they were billed as the RCO All Stars featuring Dr. John, Levon Helm and Paul Butterfield. Also, that night Dr. John sang lead on "Sing Sing Sing". I know the tour had some problems getting off the ground. What happened? I read Levon's book, but I can't remember what he said about this part of his career. Knowing the book, he probably said it was all Robbie's fault.

Actually, Levon and Robbie were getting along great during this time. Ask Paul Godfrey? They were hanging out together at the RCO launch party, having a great time. Levon's book seemed to forget about those happy times, for it went against the theme of the book.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 20:38:15 CET 2001 from dialup-63.215.113.123.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.215.113.123)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

BTW, I believe that's Nanci Griffin (who I have a huge crush on) not Patti.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 20:34:39 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk072.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.52)

Dave ~ (the drummer)

From: Pittsburgh, Pa. (and tonight, so is Professor Louie)
Web page

Hello all:

I'm really looking forward to seeing Prof. Louie & the Crowmatix tonight in the Southside of Pittsburgh Pa. If that weren't enough...it's a FREE SHOW.

Happy, healthy holidays to everyone. Peace.

Dave


Posted on Wed Dec 5 19:39:07 CET 2001 from netcache-1112.public.svc.webtv.net (209.240.222.32)

Rosalind

From: Rain City

We must not forget that we lost another great gutarist the other day. Grady Martin.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 19:23:58 CET 2001 from spider-wb011.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.151)

Calvin

Donna, I saw Griffin, Harris, Earle and COckburn last night in CLeveland-great show-plus it is a fundraiser/awareness events for trying to put a stop to Landmines. HArris did a nice Harrison tribute to start she show. Lil, John howeveryouspellhisname is Five for Fighting the way Becker and Fagan were Steely Dan, the group is him and whoever he drags into the studio at the time. He plays guitar, piano, writes all the songs and does the singing. Why he chooses to pretend it is a group is anyone's guess, but it isnt.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 18:57:04 CET 2001 from mail.avondale.com (204.27.121.74)

mlissa

From: New Orleans (Storyville)


Posted on Wed Dec 5 18:16:48 CET 2001 from (205.245.52.66)

carmen

From: pa

Susan, thanks for the link.

Also deserving in my opinion are Out of the Blue as well as Dylans Your A Big Girl Now.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 17:16:51 CET 2001 from unprovisioned.centrivity.net (64.23.165.18)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Kalervo: Check out BB King's brand new Christmas CD. It even has some originals and is an amazing addition to the Christmas genre. ALbum is called A Celebration of Hope. You may find it on www.bbking.com


Posted on Wed Dec 5 16:54:47 CET 2001 from spider-wb021.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.156)

Donna

From: PA

There are stories you can read about that are just very sad, funny, or informative. Then every once in a while, you become privileged to read a story that just touches the very core of your heart. Thank you for sharing, Diamond Lil.

For those who live in or near PA: Tomorrow night at the Keswick Theater, Emmylou Harris, Bruce Cockburn, Steve Earle, and Patti Griffin.

Welcome back, Mattk!


Posted on Wed Dec 5 16:11:34 CET 2001 from garco.cpe.newsouth.net (64.90.4.86)

Mike Carrico

From: Georgia

Thanks Susan, for linking us up with the top 100 heartbreaks...an interesting and eclectic list. It was good to see our heroes represented twice, and no surprise I suppose that both are sung by Rick; although "Lonesome Suzie" and "Share Your Love" from Richard are deserving of inclusion as well. Was glad to see Etta James' "I'd Rather Go Blind" there too...that tune tears me up.

Dazed and Confused Department: I note with considerable alarm and bewilderment that Abba has as many songs on the list as The Band!...what's up with that?


Posted on Wed Dec 5 14:54:57 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp35.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.35)

Diamond Lil

Can anyone tell me something about a band called "Five for Fighting"? I just bought a cd last night called "America Town" after falling in love with one of the tunes from it on the radio. The cd says it features "John Ondrasik".. whose voice I absolutely love! Nothing in the liner notes tell who he is or where he's from though. Anyone know? Thanks..


Posted on Wed Dec 5 14:23:37 CET 2001 from sqd40.nirai.ne.jp (202.239.129.43)

Fred

Diamond Lil: That was a lovely story..brought a tear to my eye. Thanks for sharing.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 14:05:56 CET 2001 from (194.100.60.131)

Kalervo

From: Talven Ihmemaa

I find it refreshing to read about the non-Band stuff, too. When it is only one band you can' t find interesting things endlessly. And there is danger that bg will be a stamp collectors' meeting place (concentrating on details of details)...

Just bought Caetano Veloso' s Noites Do Norte. He is the prime example that an artist can be at the peak of his art after some 35 years in business. Like Downbeat said 'the best pop singer in the western hemisphere'.

Christmas time is coming. This simple herdsman is listening more and more Christmas music. I am waiting eagerly a package from Hawaii: Na Leo' s Christmas Gift 2. Christmas Gift 1 is one of the best Christmas albums ever, up there with Bruce Cockburn' s Christmas and some others.

There are some musicologists who are capable to create an exciting Christmas music, I mean people like Robbie and Van Dyke Parks...Hm... Van Morrison once said that he would like to do an Christmas album, maybe here is the chance to have at least one exciting V.M. record in recent years (produced by not himself, but Robbie or Van Dyke or some other person with vision and character)!

Oh yes Brown Eyed Girl: Marc Ribot is one those fine explorers in music...



Posted on Wed Dec 5 13:47:22 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp35.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.35)

Diamond Lil

This is a personal, kind of heart-warming story that I just wanted to share with you all. It is not Band related, nor is it music related..so if you have a problem with that, please just scroll on by.

My mom and dad have been here visiting me for the week. My dad has Alzheimers... very advanced.. and it's been very difficult for me to see him this way. He is unable to make a complete sentence or finish a thought, and most moments doesn't recognize myself, my kids..or my mom.
Last night, we were sitting at dinner, and this sweet man looks at his wife of _50_ years and asks her out on a date! I kind of looked at my mom, and she looked at me..and we both just smiled. She turned to my dad and gently reminded him that they're already _married_..and have been for half a decade. My dad thought for a moment, said "Is that right??"..and then added " Then I'm a lucky man".
Aah.. made my heart warm and brought tears to my eyes. A wonderful man who doesn't remember, asking out the same woman he fell in love with and married over 50 years ago. Perhaps even though the memory is dying, the love never will.

Thanks for letting me share this. Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 06:49:58 CET 2001 from dialin-711-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.3.203)

Bill S.

From: Cold Spring, N. Y.

On my way to work yesterday I heard "I Shall Be Released" on 90.7. Funny thing this song has been on my mind lately. This has always been one of my best Band songs. I've always thought of it as a hymn. Richard Manuel's singing with the Band in the background is just perfect.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 06:13:26 CET 2001 from spider-ti023.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.183)

Bayou Sam

From: the inner light

RANDOM THOUGHTS......... Bob Wigo - nicely put........ I NEVER heard of EC playing on "And Your Bird Can Sing". ..... .....I don't think George wrote the lead on "....Gently Weeps", and then had Eric play it. According to my book on the Beatles recordings, it was a spur of the moment thing by George to bring EC in. Eric felt funny going in to record at a Beatles session. We have so many nice live recordings of George and Eric playing simultaneous leads on that tune - and I've been listening to them alot the last few days. Any Harrison fan that dosen't have that live CD from the Japan tour in the 90's with GH and EC should try to find it. If you can't, then e-mail me and we'll get a tape done for you.

I noticed in the newly posted photos that Levon seems to be singing. Has his voice gotten strong to where he's singing again? That would be great news.

I'm tired - can't type - feeling 'bout half past dead - nite


Posted on Wed Dec 5 05:54:05 CET 2001 from 1cust80.tnt18.chi15.da.uu.net (63.42.160.80)

Beau Hale

From: Chicago

Great website. This is a great resource of clips I hadn't heard before.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 05:43:03 CET 2001 from spider-tm042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.62)

Douglas Brown

From: Canada

There is a mistake in the lyrics for Ferdinand The Imposter. It doesn't go "claimed he was a Duke of Four"; rather it should be "claimed he was a Doukhobor"; the reason they never heard of that in "Baltimore" is because the "Doukhoborss are a nonconformist Christian sect of Russian origin, who have a controversial conflictual relationship with state authorities and other groups in Canada, but not in the USA. I'm not sure if there are any in the US, but they've been in Canada for almost a hundred years--originally working on the railways and homesteading in Saskatchewan, BC, and elsewhere. But they are particularly present in Western Canada; and in the fifties and sixties there were, if my very vague memories of this serve me well, several instances of quasi-terrorism, and of scandalous parades of public nudity on the Doukhobor's part, or rather, on the part of a breakaway group called the Sons of Freedom's, as well as some expropriation of their things (I think this happened) and imprisonment. Robertson and other band members would have been familiar with this controversy from Canadian newspapers. It is another instance, by the way, of Robertson being conscious of a marginalized "underdog" group, and of revealing something about his own identity, or identities, indirectly through detail. Thank you Bandfans


Posted on Wed Dec 5 05:26:24 CET 2001 from spider-to021.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.51)

Ben Pike

From: Cleveland TX

George's passing is such a major, if sad, event; and his "links" to the Band so apparent, that discussion is defacto justifyed. TRIVA: Also playing with four out of five Band members on "Sunshine Life For Me" ( once covered by Don McLean!) is David Bromberg. George wrote a song with Bromberg(The Hold Up) and I believed played on it on the record.


Posted on Wed Dec 5 04:21:08 CET 2001 from spider-wp062.proxy.aol.com (205.188.201.202)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Brief News Flash from the Either I'm Getting Old or The Sad State of Music Channel...., I finished up doing some work on the computer just before ten. I go to the tv and start flipping. Hey look it's the Billboard Award Show. Hey look, NSYNC is saying something. Hey they are going to to do a special performance with other artists and they are going to sing Marvin Gayes, What's Going On. Hey let's pull my teeth out with pliers. Oh My GOD! What a butcher. It simply reaffirmed my belief that singing is no longer a requirement to be successful in the music industry. Mostly rap type acts switching off verses, trying to sing, was pitiful. The rap interludes were worse and inaudible. Destiny's Child, outside of being pleasant eye candy, are no better than members of the local high school choir. P.Diddy just repeated "What's Goin On". Shaggy - no comment. The most over rated supposed hot babe, from No Doubt,well there is no no doubt that her voice is weak for a timeless classic. The highest praise goes to NSYNC, who actually did an admirable job in their tiny bit of singing. Cough - their goes a hair ball - did i just compliment NSYNC?


Posted on Wed Dec 5 01:25:03 CET 2001 from dialup-67.25.134.41.dial1.buffalo1.level3.net (67.25.134.41)

G-MAN

John Cass?? Contact G-MAN re. 1/5/02 Levon show!!! Lost yo E address!!


Posted on Wed Dec 5 00:13:03 CET 2001 from hvc-24-164-174-169.hvc.rr.com (24.164.174.169)

Dennis

From: West Saugerties, NY

Been a while since postin'...hope this finds Band fans happy 'n healthy...

Susan's link to the hundred tear-jerkers is a goodie, check it out.....but..

Perhaps in my rapidly advancing old age I missed it: No James Brown? Oh, Please, Please, Pu-lease!

Thanks, Susan, for the enjoyable reading. Cheers!


Posted on Tue Dec 4 23:20:51 CET 2001 from stx32.library.uiuc.edu (130.126.32.133)

Susan

Web page

Another try to get the link right.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 23:19:13 CET 2001 from stx32.library.uiuc.edu (130.126.32.133)

Susan

From: C/U
Web page

RocksBackPages has Two - count them - Two Band songs in the list of top 100 Heartbreaking Songs. The link is above, if I did it right. Unfaithful Servant comes at no. 65, and It Makes No Difference at no. 19.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 22:21:27 CET 2001 from spider-tk072.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.207)

Tommy

From: Brooklyn

Jon Lyness; George wrote that song, too.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 22:10:23 CET 2001 from m20677150207.austin.cc.tx.us (206.77.150.207)

Pehr

I love all the new photos. Levon keeps lookin better and better. healthy, strong and happy. I am grateful for Levon and his ministry of music.

Loved the skiing pix of DFA. reminded me of "Help!". Goofy but great. thanks for sharing them.

Glad to hear from MattK too.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 21:12:18 CET 2001 from (209.166.233.21)

Jon Lyness

From: New York City
Web page

Another George Harrison/Band connection: according to this site's notes for Ringo's self-titled album (see link above), George sang backing vocals on "Sunshine Life for Me (Sail Away Raymond)", the same track that Rick, Levon, Robbie & Garth played on--great song! (I assume it was George who thought to call them in for the session in the first place?)


Posted on Tue Dec 4 20:47:02 CET 2001 from garco.cpe.newsouth.net (64.90.4.86)

Mike Carrico

From: Georgia

h evans, thanks for mentioning George's solo on the album version of "Let It Be", one of his finest moments. It leaps off the record and makes a beeline for the soul...still gives me chills every time I hear it. I love the way it rattles the cage of that tune, not unlike Robbie's explosive fretwork on the break in "Sleeping".


Posted on Tue Dec 4 20:39:51 CET 2001 from (66.152.204.145)

Bob R

More George: apart from the fact that he was a member of the greatest band of all time, and apart from the fact that he was a fantastic guitarist, songwriter, vocalist, and apart from the fact that he was one of the most charitable musicians who ever walked the planet, apart from all that, he also was one hell of a producer-- he produced a number of eclectic and wonderful recordings for other artists (and performed on those sessions as well) and although hard to find these days, are well worth the effort to locate: Billy Preston: "Thats the Way God Planned It" & "Encouraging Words" (both on Apple-wonderful stuff ! ), Ravi Shankar: "Shankar Family and Friends", "Raga", "Chants of India" ( not all Sitar--some really wild fusions of voice, horns, even elements of Jazz), Jackie Lomax: Sour Milk Sea, Doris Troy, and Splinter, and Badfinger, and Attitudes (a band coprised of Jim Keltner, Danny Kortchmar and others).. he was a busy & talented guy !


Posted on Tue Dec 4 20:25:54 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

From: CT

Has anybody received the DVD version of The Band Biography? Many interviews with George Harrison, and I thought it was being released this month. How about the new Ronnie Hawkins cd with Levon and Robbie on the SAME track?


Posted on Tue Dec 4 20:20:20 CET 2001 from spider-wa033.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.33)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Butch: I think it's a Band conspiracy Butch because not only was the Weight played during Ed when they dropped that car into the water... but there was an elusive Gap commercial featuring Robbie shown prior... elusive because I still haven't seen it yet... my wife shouted at me when I took a bathroom break... and I just missed it... Do you think she's messing with me?... Probably... Changing directions, I've been listening to 2 new CDs I just picked up... Ben Webster's See You At The Fair and Trudell's Bone Days... which has a song that almost sounds Band-like... called Undercurrent... I could just hear Danko doing the background vocals between John's spoken word and Quiltman's chants... nice accordian too... take care all...


Posted on Tue Dec 4 20:17:18 CET 2001 from cmldme-cmt1-24-198-96-50.maine.rr.com (24.198.96.50)

MattK

Seems appropriate to break my anti-posting serenity to wish George godspeed on his voyage down the Ganges on his way to the Eternal.

Levonistas will be chagrined to see that Robbie Robertson is playing some guy named Bill Nunn in the new Spider Man flick. Oh wait, that's backwards. Never mind.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 19:54:27 CET 2001 from mke-65-29-179-240.wi.rr.com (65.29.179.240)

tony

From: chicago

Anyone see SNL on Saturday? I thought it was really nice what they did for George showing that little segment from '76. Seems a lot of people were having tributes for him over the last few days- even Sportscenter! Shows how special those four men really were to our world. Anyway, it's funny to me that the older generation gets musical guests like Harrison and paul Simon on SNL and my generation gets Shakira and Bubba Sparx (whoever the hell they are)- doesn't really seem fair, does it?

Favorite Beatles songs: toss up between Nowhere Man, Hide Your Love Away, Revolution (the faster version) and Don't Let Me Down (so soulful!)

Album: that's so hard- maybe Revovler or Abbey Rd (if it weren't for Maxwell Silver Hammer)

Fav Band Songs: Whispering Pines or Lonesome Suzie- if I'm in a Richard mood, which I always am!

Fav Album: I love Big Pink for what it has, but the brown album has more of it (unless we're talking remasters cause all those bonus cuts from the basement put Big Pink over the top)- btw, I'm sorry but I like Cahoots. Thank you so much...


Posted on Tue Dec 4 19:49:56 CET 2001 from host116.subnet118.kbcc.cuny.edu (198.83.118.116)

Big Red

Bob et al: Rubbish? Of course. But entertaining none the less. Just looking for some levity here. Besides there are TRUE stories that could be told that are even better. Yes they are rock stars and perhaps demigods to some but bottom line they all have a crazy human side to them and I appreciate things like that. And if Levon truly felt like that why would he have gotten so pissed at RR and Scorcese(sp?) for his and Richard's lack of camera time in TLW? Just take a step back and breathe. Repeat if necessary.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 19:43:42 CET 2001 from spider-ta021.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.51)

butch

From: levon-land

Through an oversight on our part,,,

we neglected to inform Jan about a Levon Helm & The Barn Burners show,,,,,

it is THIS saturday night,,,,December 8th

LANCASTER PA,,, THE CHAMELEON CLUB,,,,, i dont know the showtimes,,,, but call the club,,,,

Jeff Sarli, has been playing bass with the Barn Burners & he is a monster,,,, he is on " All The King's Men " with scotty moore & DJ Fontana & keith richards,, & LEVON,,,

so see ya'll in Lancaster Pa,,,, Shoo-Fly Pie anyone ??


Posted on Tue Dec 4 19:27:36 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-ti041.proxy.aol.com (64.12.101.166)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa USA

Big Red,

With all due respect, the reason the Levon Helm story is being ignored is because the majority of visitors here know that it is total nonsense. While some aspect of the story may have some validity, the notion that Levon did not want to see his image on television or hear his recorded voice is totally absurd. See The Ed Sullivan Show, Saturday Night Live, The Last Waltz, etc. All of these events precede the RCO myth.

While the music of The Band is the primary theme we have always enjoyed each other's comments on a wide variety of musical topics. It always comes back around but we've learned the many benefits of an open discussion and Jan has always been wonderfully patient with the diversity. George Harrison is certainly worthy of the space and time spent here and is clearly on record as an advocate of The Band's music. It would be frighteningly myopic on the part of the guests here to not post their feelings on the passing of such a musical legend.

There is always something to be learned here. When you tie that to the musical experience you have an incredibly valuable life resource. I wouldn't be without it.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 18:23:19 CET 2001 from 56k-la-01-21.dial.qnet.com (209.221.212.84)

Dave the Phone Guy

From: Mono Lake

I've read all the George Harrison posts here and they made me remember how important the man and his band are to me. I played "All Things Must Pass" over and over when it came out. I went out and bought the songbook for that album and learned some songs. George Harrison, a truly inspirational man and great musician.

I'll be in Sebastapol, California this Saturday night for a gig Terry Haggerty is playing. I've mentioned on the GB before that Mr. Haggerty is a second generation professional musician who has played lead guitar for the Sons of Champlin since the 60's. My good friend Jack Jacobsen is working the house sound system for this show and has invited me to hang out with the big boys.(Jack Jacobsen by the way is a Hammond organ specialist. Check out his playing on two cuts on Huey Lewis' latest CD.)

Anyway, I'm going to ask Terry Haggerty what he recalls of a famous Winterland gig in 1969. The Sons of Champlin were on the bill with The Band when The Band played their first show as The Band. I'm wondering if he saw a hypnotist wandering around backstage.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 17:58:41 CET 2001 from spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.211)

Brien Sz

From: Nj

Just because.., My favorite GH song is My Sweet Lord and the other one that has a similar sound and was post Beatles (sorry can't remember the name). I never thought much of his playing - that's not in a bad way BUT i never went WOW! listen to that guitar like i have with Jeff Beck, Steve Howe, Kieth Richards, or RR. His later hits in the 80's were fairly simple catchy songs that, to me, were average at best; as opposed to the Wilbury works which i loved. Hey, GH was part of a great team in the Beatles. Their elements combined formed timeless music.

As far as Sitar goes, to me, that and the bag pipes are the most annoying instruments on the planet (especially bagpipes ahhhhhhhhh)in subtle moderation i can handle the sitar.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 16:39:18 CET 2001 from (205.245.52.66)

Carmen

From: PA

Pehr, nice to be back!

Peter V., I am starting to see alot of Let It Be selections as I thought I would. I always felt this to be the most "BAND influenced" Beetles album.

Also, I read that Neil Young is releasing a tune titled "Let's Roll" as a tribute to the Flight 93 passengers. This song is scheduled to be on a new studio album with Booker T and The MG's due in January.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 16:04:42 CET 2001 from host116.subnet118.kbcc.cuny.edu (198.83.118.116)

Big Red

Uhhhh, I know we're all in mourning for George Harrison but could we please remember this is a gb for The Band? Many are ignoring the great story about Levon on Austin City Limits. Let's stick to the greatest group OTHER than the Beatles. Please? BTW I'm sure that George isn't chatting up Rick and Richard in heaven. He's choking John Lennon for marrying Yoko!!! (Just kidding)


Posted on Tue Dec 4 15:29:34 CET 2001 from bcefire2.cibcwg.com (207.61.221.19)

Lawrence Brissenden

From: Toronto

“George Harrison was not a brilliant musician”

This statement is completely wrong. George was the lead guitarist of The Beatles and the best technical musician in the band. He provided many of the greatest musical moments in The Beatles career. Consider the dramatic opening chord on “A Hard Day’s Night” played on his Rickenbacker 12 string. His tasteful sitar lines on “Norwegian Wood” opened the door to world music. His lyrical guitar solo on “Something” is breathtaking in its beauty and perfection. Who can forget his memorable, melodic slide guitar solos on “My Sweet Lord”? All of this music is the work of a brilliant musician.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 14:24:56 CET 2001 from unprovisioned.centrivity.net (64.23.165.18)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Hank: Bummer! But thanks for the feedback. Current fav. Beatles songs are the entire side 2 of Abbey Road (I cheat) Don't Let Me Down, Hey Jude, In My Life, A Day In The Life, Dear Prudence, Sexie Sadie, Cry Baby Cry. Band: Cripple Creek, Stagefright, Don't Do It, King Harvest, Unfaithful Servant...Stop! See, there are too many. One more thought on George: Rather than feeling sad at his passing, by reading about his deep religious faith, how he handled his death and approached it, etc etc. I really feel he was at peace, and if he could accept things in the manner he did, then I am inspired to feel the same.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 14:01:48 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp68649.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.186.14)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

PAUL SIMON.........LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.......MY FRIEND GEORGE HARRISON.....I am smiling as they begin singing together.......What does Harrison have to say about his song?

HERE COMES THE SUN......was written at the time when Apple was getting like school, where we had to go and be businessmen - sign this and sign that. Anyway, it seems as if winter in England goes on forever; by the time spring comes you really deserve it. So one day I decided I was going to sag off Apple and I went over to Eric Clapton's house. The relief of not having to go and see all those dopey accountants was wonderful, and I walked around the garden with one of Eric's acoustic guitars and wrote HERE COMES THE SUN........

CUPID and KALERVO: I am really getting into MARC RIBOT.......THE PROSTHETIC CUBANS.......Wow! Spanish grooves........Ribot style.......his playing reminds me of.......Robbie........understated sheer elegance.......


Posted on Tue Dec 4 13:29:56 CET 2001 from du-tele3-153.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.153)

Peter Viney

Ben: Someone over the last few days mentioned George’s self-effacing nature, in that he wrote stuff note-for-note, then asked Clapton to actually play the solo on the record (While My Guitar Gently Weeps). Ian MacDonald’s “Revolution in the Head” is the usual authority on who played what, and credits Clapton for this. On “And Your Bird Can Sing” he says “the track is memorable mainly for its rolling swing and the intricacy of its guitar parts including an arpeggiated chromatic passage and a recurring arabesque in parallel thirds played by Harrison and McCartney (or possibly Lennon).” Phew! That’s above me.

Looking through the book again, it’s surprising how often McCartney played guitar, parts and doubled with the lead guitar on tracks, and MacDonald adds a few that were ‘officially’ Lennon. Interestingly, Harrison played bass on Golden Slumbers / Carry That Weight as well as lead. BUT on ‘Abbey Road’ MacDonald doesn’t mention Clapton (except that Harrison wrote ‘Here Comes The sun’ in Clapton’s garden), though Clapton is often said to be on Abbey Road, and in the 60s contractual matters meant that credits were either ignored or hushed up. However, MacDonald is very accurate (as well as over my head) on most matters and attributes the wonderful guitar sound to “Harrison’s ubiquitous Leslie-toned guitar.”


Posted on Tue Dec 4 13:17:37 CET 2001 from (62.128.212.171)

Mr Ben

From: London UK

Haven't visited for a while but it's nice to see the quality of posts on George who was always a little underrated imho.

There was a tribute programme on Friday evening on BBC 1 which while a nice gesture totally missed the point about the man and his music. I think only 5 minutes was footage of his music while the majority was Lennon and Macca.

I have very fond memories of the All things must pass album, a very dear friend of mine who passed away from Cancer himself introduced me to the album when we were at school together. We had just started getting stoned and were convinced that it was the greatest music to listen to in that state. If you listen to the opening bars of I'd have you anytime then I think you will see what I mean. I honestly think it was the greatest individual beatle album. I do think though that all of them initially made good music after the break up. I also loved Handle with care from the Wilburys. He had a gentle sincerity in his music that I think is very rare particularly from artists with his status. I would like to think of him Rick and Richard hooking up and playing together, now eternally in their prime.

Favourite Beatles album - Let it be

Favourite Beatles song - Yer Blues

Favourite Band album - The Band

Favourite Band song - Rocking chair


Posted on Tue Dec 4 12:10:02 CET 2001 from 1cust107.tnt2.poughkeepsie.ny.da.uu.net (63.17.108.107)

Hi

Here's another vote for black gospel...pre 1969....I collect it...Hank you must have been listening to a Specialty Records collection and that was Sister Wynonna Carr doing "Life is a Ball Game."...Great Stuff!..


Posted on Tue Dec 4 08:59:10 CET 2001 from spider-wb061.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.176)

Ben Pike

From: Cleveland TX

To venture fourth with a minority view(never been a big problem for me!) I would take a diferent tack that may in part be what Marcus was getting at.

I have always viewed Harrison's Indian/pychodelic adventures as not merely adding the spice of varity to the Beatles albums, but as being among their best, most durable tunes. Like a lot of pop art that is viewed as emblimatic of the sixties, they tend to be dismissed or condesended to, but as for me, crank up "Love To You", "Blue Jay Way" "Within Without You" and "The Inner Light." They stand very well with their more celebrated co-tracks as far as I'm conserned.

The early George songs (I Need You, You Like Me Too Much) tended to be weak sister Lennon/McCartney, though I always kind of liked "Don't Bother Me." The later big hits suffer from overplay, "piggies" was kind of a lame joke before Manson but "Long Long Time" is beautiful. Pared down to a single disc, "All Things Must Pass" is as good as any post Beatle album(faint praise to these ears) and George's great comeback was the wonderful, mostly his "Handle With Care."

Hey Peter V, Years ago Ringo did this radio show where he played and talked about the Beatles. I swear he said Clapton played on "And Your Bird Can Sing"( one of my very favorites) which George is getting a lot of mentions for now. What do you think?


Posted on Tue Dec 4 08:53:04 CET 2001 from ppp150.205-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca (207.253.205.150)

Martin Poisson

From: Montreal

I have a Bass VI and i enjoy reading your articles about this instrument...I will make a record album in 2002 just for a tribute to this Fender unknown instrument. Martin Poisson


Posted on Tue Dec 4 08:52:18 CET 2001 from ppp150.205-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca (207.253.205.150)

Martin Poisson

From: Montreal

I have a Bass VI and i enjoy reading your articles about this instrument...I will make a record album in 2002 just for a tribute to this Fender unknown instrument. Martin Poisson


Posted on Tue Dec 4 08:24:54 CET 2001 from proxy.newmedia.no (212.71.66.13)

Jens Magnus

From: Oslo
Web page

Favourite Beatles album/ song: Rubber Soul/ In my life.

Favourite Band album/song: Stage Fright/ Sleeping.

Favourite GH song: Here comes the sun.

The link above is to the Norwegian Beatles fan club, which also contains english pages.



Posted on Tue Dec 4 08:13:21 CET 2001 from spider-wq083.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.201)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Forgot to mention - I couldn't help but smile at the way George avioded the media spotlight, even in death. There was a funeral service, and he was creamated before the world even knew that he had died. Way to go George.

His ashes are to be sprinkled into a holy river in India.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 06:37:13 CET 2001 from spider-wq083.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.201)

Bayou Sam

From: the spiritual sky

Wow - we're still on George - cool

I just scrolled through the last bunch of posts - lots of interesting stuff. I did see a few George tributes that annoyed me. All of a sudden some people are calling him the "glue" of The Beatles, or the true soul of the band. I think there is a trace of merit there, but why didn't they say this stuff BEFORE he was dead? I find those hollow accolades.

George always did play for the song. I've always said that he was so good at adding the PERFECT lead, or fill to a tune. A couple of examples for me are, the simple lead in "And I Love Her". Anything more would have been too much. Then there's the lead break in "Nowhere Man". I mean, did he nail the whole feel and sound of that song with that lead or what? - and did you ever notice the little harmonic "ping" he does at the very end of the lead break? - then he puts the song away at the end. Someone mentioned the album version of "Let It Be" - one of my all time favorite George leads. Alot of his stuff dosen't JUMP out at you. If anyone is like me, and likes to pick tunes apart and play with the balance on some of those older recordings - check out "I Me Mine", especially on the chorus. Listen to both sides of the stereo mix. You'll hear some great guitar playing - and it's all George since John was somewhere else dreaming about starting the Plastic Ono Band. One more - listen to "Lady Madonna", right after the lyric, "see how they ruuuuun", George does a nasty little riff to bring it back to the verse. It's mixed low, but it's there. As far as music writing - I've got a music book called "The George Harrison Anthology" that I got about 15-20 years ago, and if you are a player, you should see some of the chord chages he has written. The changes in "Crackerbox Palace". The intro to "Awaiting On You All" is very nice. I'm not trying to prove to anyone that George was good, or that they should like him more. I'm staying away from that little fracas. I'm just waving the George Harrison flag because I've always loved his music - Beatles, and solo - and you don't run into very many real fans of George in one place like there are in here - so I'm enjoying it.

One of the things I noticed in some George interviews is his sense of humor and how alot of folks missed it. It was something George even mentioned. There are some very funny Harrison tunes to be heard like, "Only a Nothern Song", "Savoy Truffle", and "This Song", and "The Pirate Song" (bootleg) - to name a few.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 05:40:50 CET 2001 from spider-te031.proxy.aol.com (152.163.195.186)

Tommy

From: Brooklyn,NY

I agree ,H Evans.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 05:14:21 CET 2001 from spider-tp073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.208)

Calvin

Actually Pehr, my favortie Beatles song, mostly because of it seems so simplistic when it really isn't, was Here Comes the Sun. Did anyone catch Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora doing an acoustic version of it at the VH1 awards last night? I dont know that George was quite the songwriter Paul and John were, at least he didnt have the hit making ability of Paul, but he songs were clearly more personal-I do think George would have made a better writer of prose than Paul or John though.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 05:02:15 CET 2001 from spider-tm042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.62)

butch

From: sell-out ville,,,

i just heard Levon & the fellas singing The Weight on TV,,,, some show called ED ,,,,,,,, that should keep ya busy for a while,,,,,, heh,heh,heh,, just kiddin,,,, it WAS nice to hear those voices again,,,


Posted on Tue Dec 4 04:55:49 CET 2001 from spider-tl052.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.197)

h evans

From: alabama

I would put George's solo on "Let it Be", (album version) up against any for sheer emotion. You can feel his frustration at what was going on within the Beatles during that time.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 04:49:53 CET 2001 from dialup-093.cork.iol.ie (194.125.43.93)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

Oh, I say!.....By George!....What?......

YES! Ann! I'm into gospel....right now in my car I'm listening to a Gospel collection.....Sam Cooke singing "The Hem of His Garment"......and a woman belting out "Life is a Ballgame......But You Got to Play it Fair" are the ones I really like.....Rod Stewart should sing "The Hem of His Garment"......Elvis was right....Rock'n'Roll is Gospel......you shakes people up.......You can really get a handle on folks when they react to great gospel music....some just rock with it....some wanna listen to the words and talk about it.....great stuff.....I Love it!

JTULL FAN!!!......JTull played in Cork tonight......at The City Hall......I was playing my regular Monday night gig at aplace across the street from The city hall.....so i could'nt go!!!...Sorry!!.....when the Tull gig was over.....the place I was gigging overflowed with concert go'ers......about 50 walked into this small pub at once......so I said over the mike......"How were The Greatful Dead?"........it got a big laugh......

OK, well, I guess you hadda be there......

Everyone I met said The Tull were dynamite.......

The thing about The Beatles is this..

what's the chances of hearing the fabled bootleg of Levon singing "Come Together" with George jamming with The Band botleg?

Botleg?..........time for bed

Now it's time to say goodnight.......


Posted on Tue Dec 4 04:49:59 CET 2001 from spider-tl052.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.197)

h evans

From: alabama

Have really enjoyed the George Harrison thread these lasf few days. It has helped with the sadness. One thing that always stands out to me was the quality of Georges' lyrics. He wrote some pretty profound stuff. I love the idea expressed in the song "If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there". Have always been partial to the "Living in the Material World" lp.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 04:04:54 CET 2001 from m198214182084.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.182.84)

Pehr

Calvin I cant seem to stop talking today. I liked your last post. Problem is, I agree with the guy from FOX News! I think george had a disadvantage in not having a partner to write songs with, and a vast majority of my own beatle faves were in fact penned by George, so I guess thats that... His songs are somber and serious and earthier to me than the Lennon McCartney numbers on a whole.

This post really comes to Carmen who got me thinking the above with his thread.

Favorite Beatle album Meet the Beatles. I think it's as experimental and innovative in it's way as anything they ever did. George's TONE! Damn hard record to top. Got the ball rolling for them, no doubt. Favorite song off that is "Dont Bother Me" penned by(You Know Who).

Favorite Band Album, "Music From Big Pink"; Favorite track is "Chest Fever". Fun theread Carmen. Great to hear from you!


Posted on Tue Dec 4 03:08:31 CET 2001 from spider-wq031.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.154)

Calvin

No problem Pehr, I just found myself in a place I didnt want to be. My original point was a) I was never a GH fan in more than a casual sense and b) but I still feel we lost something because he seemed like such an incredibly decent human being when it is very easy to not be so when you are rich and famous. I never meant to be put in a position of defending what I meant by "his music never really touched me"-I meant more to highlight how he seemed like such a really wonderful human being-somehow my original message got lost in another offhand comment. But I never meant to question his guitar playing skill or songwriting ability. In truth the comment about him not being the musician some where making him out to be was directed related to a commentator of FOX News who was saying he was clearly the equal of John and Paul and so forth. But then that isnt a GH thing, it isnt all that unusual for a celebrity to get than kind of praise during a premature death. But again I never meant raise questions about his skill, my post was entirely meant to praise his character from the standpoint of someone whose relation to his solo work was simply a GH album, the thread spiralled out of control.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 02:29:36 CET 2001 from vp216-92.worldonline.nl (195.241.216.92)

harry

From: Holland

I just wanted to say that the singing and drumming of mister Levon helm is truelly beautifull. He is one of my great infleunce of how to play the drums.Im sorry for my bad english writing.


Posted on Tue Dec 4 00:10:49 CET 2001 from h00045a2492aa.ne.mediaone.net (65.96.190.104)

Rick

From: Boston

If you have a chance, you may want to take a look at Apple Computer's home page (www.apple.com). A touching doff of the cap from one Apple to a slice of another Apple.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 23:18:27 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Over the years George Harrison, as well as Eric Clapton, were always generous in their compliments about The Band. Specifically, both gentlemen spoke of the tremendous effect the music of The Band had on them when they first heard it. At the time, both Mr. Harrison & Mr. Clapton had tasted fame as part of "super-groups", but were at crossroads in their respective careers and about to seek new musical paths.

Although both gentlemen cited the influence that The Band had on the way they began to look at their own music, neither of them really tried to copy what The Band was doing. Instead, they both saw how The Band so successfully blended together so many different types of music and applied that concept to their own approaches.

Yesterday, Britain's Sunday Times reported that, in the last few months of his life, Mr. Harrison had been working on a new album of material in secrecy. In the article, written by Maurice Chittenden, it was reported that Mr. Harrison was completing work on 25 previously unreleased tracks at his home studio. Included were newly-recorded tracks, as well as a few tracks dating back to the 1980s.

Legendary drummer, Jim Keltner, was quoted in Mr. Chittenden's report, saying that he had flown over to add drums to the tracks at Mr. Harrison's Friar Park mansion's studio. It is also reported that other msucians, "believed to include Eric Clapton", had also participated.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 23:17:48 CET 2001 from m198214190216.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.190.216)

Pehr

Calvin, No big deal. some of us are just backing up our own "feelings" with the facts as we see them and its not personal.as a musician he was a guitar player. He inspired many many with his ministry of music as well as his spiritual journey. I remember amd respect him for his sweet slide guitar playing as well as his great, great songs.I'll put his "And Your Bird Can Sing" guitar part next to anyone's, as far a guitar pyrotechnics go. As to Great musician status, I'll say that having "Lead Guitar, Beatles on the resume is a suitable qualifier for "Greatness" because the beatles were undeniably "Great".

No Big Deal, Calvin. A nice thread.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 23:17:00 CET 2001 from raindel.jvlnet.com (216.145.200.249)

Ann

Anybody here like Gospel? Just picked up a cd by the Blind Boys from Alabama called Spirit of the Century. Awesome CD. They do a version of Amazing Grace to the tune of House of the Rising Sun...pretty cool. Sounds like old blues...sittin on the front porch with my harmonica blues. Charlie Musselwhite plays on the CD along with John Hammond and they do songs by Tom Waits and Mick & Keith.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 22:39:57 CET 2001 from spider-tr062.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.202)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Never owned a lot of Beatles. My first Beatles album was Let It Be. I know for purists and critics it's not a fav but i loved it. George's I Me Mine was one of the hightlights of that effort. But i always dug, Two of Us, I Dig a Pony, Across the Universe (?) and of course Let It Be. The other album i really got into was Revolver..,


Posted on Mon Dec 3 22:14:22 CET 2001 from dialup-63.215.115.120.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (63.215.115.120)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Calvin, I certainly support your argument concerning taste, but you did comment on George's musicianship. To quote: "I dont "love" George Harrison, his music didnt touch me in anyway, and frankly I dont think he was a(s) great a musician as were making him out to be today."


Posted on Mon Dec 3 21:17:03 CET 2001 from host-149.subnet-76.med.umich.edu (141.214.76.149)

Steve Knowlton

From: Ypsilanti

Peter: When McCartney was embarking on his '89 tour, he got the old Hofner out of mothballs and had a luthier give it a complete makeover. Apparently the neck was several degrees off true! I imagine at that time he had new pickups, etc. installed too. Also, keep in mind that Paul was pretty new to the bass when they recorded "Please Please Me" - he may not have been savvy about tone controls.

Favorite Beatles side/song: side two of Rubber Soul, tie between "I'm Looking Through You" and "In My Life" (when John & Paul take on each others' stereotypical roles - Paul is angry, John is sentimental - interesting things always happen.)


Posted on Mon Dec 3 21:08:16 CET 2001 from spider-ti011.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.176)

Calvin

Pehr, people are putting words in my mouth. I never once mentioned GH guitar playing his songrwriter or his singing. My comment was, While I was never a big fan, I think I only own a GH album, and his music never "spoke to me" as it has others, I was saddened to hear of his death because of the character he seemed to possess. Any thing else is people reading into what I said. Juat because Ray Davies music effected me more than GH doesnt mean I have any sort of diminished respect for him as a musician. Just that I wasnt a big fan.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 20:59:12 CET 2001 from 1cust120.tnt1.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.28.242.120)

rollie

Hey Bones! Yeah, I'm not sure about the "Stagefright" bit. Was it a joke of sorts???? As for our war on terrorism people,don't just take CNNs word for it. Check out these sights.http://www.disinfo.com/pages/dossier/id1737/pg1/


Posted on Mon Dec 3 20:42:51 CET 2001 from du-tele3-056.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.56)

Peter Viney

Carmen – interesting comparison point! I’m particularly interested that you choose a generally lesser-rated Beatles album and a non-obvious track, while your Band choices fit a lot of people’s consensus. What they have in common is a love of a kind of ‘descending grandeur’ in the melodies. (If that makes sense).So, picking up the thread.

Beatles: Magical Mystery Tour (US version) / Strawberry Fields Forever

Band: Brown album / King Harvest

But my favourite Beatles “side” is Abbey Road Side Two, and I reckon Stage Fright side two rivals the brown album. ‘Sergeant Pepper’ was the one that affected me most at the time of release.

I was listening to “Please Please Me” this morning (with George On My Mind). Fascinating. There are several points where their collective imagination was beyond their technical ability at the time (e.g. the changes in ‘There’s A Place.’) What’s clear is that George, like post-66 Robbie, always played for the song not for the solo. This evening I’m on “Driving Rain”. This brings me back to an old point. On “Driving rain” McCartney keeps specifically referencing “Hofner bass” in the sleeve notes, but listen to “Please Please Me” to hear what a REAL Hofner violin bass sounds like, i.e. extremely muddy and indistinct compared to the new stuff, and it’s not just the recording technique or the increase in playing ability. If Paul is really still using a Hofner, it’s been heavily customized. Like new pickups, new neck, new control circuits.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 20:39:08 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

From: CT

That story about Levon locking himself in the bathroom during an Austin City Limits taping is one for ages. Is that true? It sounded true, but then there was that part about Stage Fright. Never in my life had anyone ever thought that the song had anything to do with Richard or Levon. The story is very funny, however.

Nice tributes about George Harrison. I've enjoyed reading them.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 20:29:25 CET 2001 from m198214190216.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.190.216)

Pehr

Just a quick observation. I respect and appreciate Calvin's opinion and right to share it with us. I dont agree with his assessment of GH's guitar skills, and dont believe much of Griel Marcus's assessments on musicianship simply because that subject is outof his expertise. I say this because music is not about "Taste" or "Opinion". It is about creating form and this is a process that runs deeper than most people are willing to truly investigate.

For me Georges resume and discography speak volumes on his abilities as a musician.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 14:40:20 CET 2001 from (205.245.52.66)

carmen

From: pa

Here is a question for all-What is your favorite Beetles Album and Song. Also match it up with you favorite BAND album and song. I am curious to see if there is a pattern.

Here are my selections

Let It Be & Don't Let Me Down.

Brown & The Weight.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 14:03:15 CET 2001 from spider-wk042.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.167)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Peter Viney: Thanks for the Civil War discussion link on 'Dixie'. It was fun seeing a familiar thread on a wholly different discussion forum. Having been a member of local Civil War roundtable groups that meet in person monthly, I can tell you that these are the BIGGEST NITPICKERS of them all! :)


Posted on Mon Dec 3 10:29:45 CET 2001 from du-tele3-092.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.92)

Peter Viney

Following the flood of repetitive articles in the Sunday press, The Guardian has two good ones this morning. Michael Berkeley on “All Things Must Pass” and Greil Marcus “ A Virtuoso Would Have Destroyed The Beatles” (which, in defence of Calvin, begins “George Harrison was not a brilliant musician, but that’s beside the point.”)

MARCUS: “His legacy is not in his big songs: in Something or Here Comes The sun, reaching the easy Listener inside every rocker, or even in the seemingly inexhaustible While My Guitar Gently weeps. Harrison’s legacy is in pieces of the whole: pieces that cannot really be separated from the whole of The Beatles, from their music … So it really depends on what you hear, when their records come on the radio … you might hear the slow cadence of Harrison’s rhythm guitar in Baby It’s You, pulling back against the beat, asking for a moment’s pause the song won’t give up; you might hear the flurry of tiny notes at the end of a line in It Won’t Be Long. It could be the glowing gorgeous clanging chords in eight Days A Week, the golden noise in And Your Bird Can Sing, or the intricate crossing lines in I’m looking Through You, so seductively elusive that in 1965, in those early days of stereo, fans would turn off the vocal channel just to hear the guitars. It could be the opening and closing instrumental phrases of A Hard day’s Night, at once violent and beckoning, doomstruck and free.

Whatever the name on the song that holds the moment and catches your ear, that moment will be made of something single and repeatable, simple and inexplicable, a sense of timing, a sense of when to step forward and when to step back. It was Harrison who knew when to hurry and when to wait. The opposite of the guitar heroes who came forth at the end of the Beatles’ decade, he played with an invisible hand.”


Posted on Mon Dec 3 06:45:49 CET 2001 from 1cust170.tnt2.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.25.9.170)

Nice Levon and the RCO story

Somebody selling an RCO poster on e-bay had these anecdotes attached. Some funny stuff here.....

"This was shaping up as a truly all-star showing of "blue-eyed Soul" headed by drummer and singer Levon Helm famous from his work in "The Band" which, prior to backing Bob Dylan, was known as "The Hawks" when they worked with Ronnie Hawkins. On lead guitar was Steve Cropper and playing bass was Duck Dunn. Both of them were from "Booker T. & the MGs", and were mainstays on dozens of recordings from Stax, Volt, Atlantic and Atco record companies. Dr. John the New Orleans juju-boogie pianist had put out his own albums on Atlantic, and was central to dozens of hit Blues and R&B recordings on Ace Records and Rex.

As great as the shows promised to be, Priest, who created this poster for the shows and who was a Master of Ceremonies at the Armadillo, adds that due to an improbably quirky string of twists of fate, these show never actually occurred despite two separate shots at them.

Levon Helm and the "All-Stars" stayed in Baton Rouge, Louisiana the night before the scheduled Armadillo shows, and when they awoke to travel to Austin they found a pea-soup Mississippi River fog enveloping southern Louisiana. It was much too thick for the band to drive through and be able to cover the 420 miles to Austin in time to go on stage. Likewise, the airport was completely socked in by the blanketing fog delaying any possible charter flight to Austin.

Steve Cropper and Duck Dunn from "Booker T. & The MGs" were part of the "All-Stars", and Cropper phoned the Armadillo that morning explaining that they were delayed, there wasn't enough time to drive from Baton Rouge to Austin, and he and Duck weren't too big on the idea of flying in such bad weather. Cropper went on to say he and Duck, as members of "The MGs", had been performing on tour with Otis Redding in 1967, and luckily they were not on the plane that crashed in a lake in Wisconsin on the way to a gig in Madison killing Otis and other band members. Therefore, Cropper and Duck were very apprehensive about flying in small planes in bad weather, and they were disinclined to test their luck in another risky flight.

The crew at The Armadillo needed no further explanation, and completely understanding they graciously said "Don't worry about it, and don't do anything risky, but if you ever get a chance to swing through coming or going, feel free to let us know and we will try make up the date and organize a spur of the moment show at that time".

Levon & the "RCO All-Stars" did make it back in to Austin a few weeks later, and they were scheduled to do an "Austin City Limits" TV show. Who in the world would have ever thought Richard Manuel's song "Stage Fright' wasn't about himself, but was about Levon instead ? According to Priest, Levon had never listened to playback in the studio, had never heard any of the recordings he was on, and had never seen any video or film of any of his performances. Levon, from the hills of the Ozarks, said he didn't believe in it and he was afraid it would capture his soul !?! Just like any good Indian, he had always avoided that stuff completely. He didn't want to do the "Austin City Limits" TV show at all, but he finally said "All right, I'll do it if you promise me I will not see myself on a monitor and that I won't hear myself." The ACL producers said "Well, all right, we can rig that up."

After The Cate Brothers band did their videoshoot to be used as the opening segment of that same "Austin City Limits" show, it was time for Levon and "The RCO All-Stars" to videotape their part. Well, the "Austin City Limits" crew fouled up. They said they would watch out, but they didn't stay on top of it . Levon saw himself on a monitor, ran out of the TV studio and up to the top floor of the University of Texas Communications Building, where he locked himself in to the Men's Room. He jammed the door so badly that the Fire Department had to come and get him out. They couldn't get him out until way after taping time, though, and Levon Helms and "The RCO All-Stars" never got on "Austin City Limits". Later on, everyone wondered how the "Cate Brothers Band" got to headline an "Austin City Limits", and it was all because Levon jammed the door and wouldn't come out.

Even worse was that Levon wasn't the only one that did that during a videoshoot at "Austin City Limits". Billy Joe Shaver also saw himself on a monitor during a videotaping. He screamed, ran out of the studio, and all the way down Guadalupe Street. They never did catch him ! "


Posted on Mon Dec 3 04:54:27 CET 2001 from spider-tl031.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.186)

calvin

I regret offending you or anyone Bob, but I never said Harrison "wasnt" Or "without a doubt isnt", instead I said "I think." And I went on to say music is a matter of taste and there is no right or wrong in opinion. But Im sorry, in my opinion you had a situation where news media men and women were saying things like "Harrison was clearly the equal of McCartney and Lennon" when the day before he sadly passed on they never would have even thought such a thing. That's what I meant in saying he wasnt the musician many are making him out to be, it certainly wasnt meant to question his musical skill or output.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 02:57:37 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tf012.proxy.aol.com (64.12.103.22)

Brien Sz

From: nj

Tonight's Simpson's episode was dedicated to George Harrison.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 02:37:31 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tb041.proxy.aol.com (64.12.104.36)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa USA

Calvin, in an earlier post in reference to George Harrison you said........"and frankly I dont think he was as great a musician as we're making him out to be today."

Clearly this is the only point that a few others here have called you on, and rightfully so. George Harrison was a highly respected musician and, among guitarists, held in extremely high esteem for a body of work that is incredibly diverse, wonderfully understated, melodic, cutting when called for, and unique on every count.

You made some very fine points about Harrison's character but you really should reconsider the worthiness of his musicianship. He was among the very finest guitarists of his time.


Posted on Mon Dec 3 01:24:17 CET 2001 from ool-18bbe6c0.dyn.optonline.net (24.187.230.192)

michael p senato

From: lindenhurst new yotk

with the pasiingofeorge harrison this past week i can't help wonder how robbie robertson is doing? with the passing of rick danko and ricard manuel i hope what ever bad blood has been split the can be be friends meaning garth & levon. i am 53 and was able to see the hawks live and was at newport when they booed bob dylan because the peo[[ple did't like electric bob dylan & i liked it . it was sure different for the times. but like the song says the times they are a changeinga


Posted on Sun Dec 2 22:52:01 CET 2001 from du-tele3-154.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.154)

Peter Viney

For a current discussion on "The Night they drove Old dixie down" see:

http://www.cwreenactors.com/dcforum/general/1112.html

This is a Civil war re-enactors forum.


Posted on Sun Dec 2 20:44:43 CET 2001 from hse-mtl-ppp70838.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.194.171)

brown eyed girl

From: cabbagetown

NORBERT!!!!!.......ROLLIE: I am sending out your CD today......The one you have been waiting for.......MARLEY! ROBBIE! HARRISON!.......and a few surprises.........Now......if things don't work out with you and Norbert..........But......what I really need to know is.......which one of you........likes.........Louuuuuu? ;-D......DONNA.......Robbie CD is coming your way tooooo!........CALM AND CRITTER........ROBBIE coming your way and many surprises! ENJOY! MUSIC SOOOOOOOTHES THE SAVAGE BEAST IN ALL OF US.......HANK: I like Jagger's new song GUN......Townshend plays guitar.......like a gun of course........Well Mick.......What goes around.......comes around.......doesn't it?..........and HIDEAWAY......Wyclef Jean vibe at beginning of song.......I'm actually starting to like bourgeois Mick......and his song BRAND NEW SET OF RULES......He almost fooled me too........LOL.......Listening to GEORGE HARRISON'S version of IF NOT FOR YOU.........I think I even like it better than Dylan's original..........


Posted on Sun Dec 2 20:39:51 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

From: ook dat nog

Rollie, big kiss...... you're cute, but I prefer the Brown Eyed Girl...... no offence (hope you're not angry man, don't want to miss my GB stalker, hee-hee)......guess, I have to wait for TLW to come out on DVD now, shit!............(and if you see, Jeff......."NO!")


Posted on Sun Dec 2 19:22:34 CET 2001 from pm456-25.dialip.mich.net (204.39.227.83)

twilight

From: ann arbor, mi

What's all this about George Harrison? I thought this sight was for The Band! (Not too many people, can see we're all the same). If you are looking for a place to go to ahng with George, check out http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/fabnews.htm. Also, for a bit of recent Harrison, go to www.rubyhorse.com to hear and you'll find a great story as well. I think George would get a kick out of Paul calling him "a baby brother." What a stunning, wonderful man.


Posted on Sun Dec 2 17:48:42 CET 2001 from 1cust212.tnt1.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.28.242.212)

rollie

By the way Norbert, if BEG isn't interested, I'd marry you, you Nordic devil you!


Posted on Sun Dec 2 17:32:50 CET 2001 from 1cust212.tnt1.idaho-falls.id.da.uu.net (63.28.242.212)

rollie

I used to hold Dick Cavette in high regard..........


Posted on Sun Dec 2 13:02:06 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

Web page

Brown Eyed Girl......let me think......btw, wanne marry me?.....


Posted on Sun Dec 2 08:40:16 CET 2001 from pm3-156.efn.org (206.163.180.156)

Deb

From: Oregon

Another one gone ... sob. I came in and sat down at my computer to type this and looked over at the record shelf, where over 100 record albums reside. The records were flipped open, parted, to reveal George's "All Things Must Pass" album. Odd. It's comforting to know that after not having visited this site for almost a year, I can come back and read other people's thoughts and post my own. The one comforting thing is that George is finally where he wanted to be; he had mentioned this in interviews past. He said something like: The only important thing is the end, when you pass over to God; all the rest is just stuff. (However, it's pretty good stuff and very good for us here on earth to be able to enjoy).


Posted on Sun Dec 2 07:21:01 CET 2001 from spider-wj051.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.41)

Calvin

I swear this story is true Sam, but your comment about Wings made me think of this. its around 1984 and the Song Coming Up, which had been a hit a few years before was playing in the store I was at. It was in a independant Record Store in Kent, Ohio. 2 Girls about 14 where beside me going through the Albums, and one turned to the other and said "Did you know Paul McCartney was in another band before "Wings." I swear to god its true and I laughed out loud, they looked at me like I was an idiot. BTW, I asked a Beatles fanatic friend of my tonight and he told me by his count, not figuring in the WIlbury's or reunions and such, the 4 beatles have had 16 No 1 and 70 Top 40 singles in the USA. I just think they dont get credit for that because of the tremendous sucess of the group.


Posted on Sun Dec 2 06:39:32 CET 2001 from spider-ta031.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.56)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

By the way - even though I think that three "new" Band albums are terrific and desrve (especially Jubilation) to be mentioned in the same breath as Pink and Brown - it's that magical chemistry of the original guys together (like The Beatles)that somehow makes it hard to go all the way in saying that the later albums are "as good". I said in a recent post that the 90's Band were the same with just a different guitarist. It's been bugging me since, because I don't quite feel that 100 percent. They nailed down the sound the same, and with Garth doing his magic you got the sound there - but it's just that "something" that's not exactly the same. I do think that Jim Weider did just as good a job on guitar as RR for the sound of the Band - but he's never going to write "Dixie".


Posted on Sun Dec 2 06:22:07 CET 2001 from spider-ta031.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.56)

Bayou Sam

From: ny

Calvin = The Beatles were such a huge force, and an image as the four guys that there was probably no way they would get the same credit and accolades in thier solo work. Even if they had reunited - John once said that they'd get compared to the early days and would be told they're not as good. Actually - Wings was together longer than The Beatles and most musicians would love to have the success that Paul had from 1971 to 1980. George made some high quality albums too. Thirty Three and a Third is a great work with terrific musicianship - but the magnitude of The Beatles "monster" was something even they couldn't top. I don't think they could explain it. When asked at thier first press conference on Feb. 7,'64 why they were so popular, Lennon said, "if we knew we would become managers and form a band". McCartney (or maybe it was Ringo) once said that he wished he could sit in the audience at a Beatles show to see what all the fuss was about......The other thing is that John and Paul not only had each other to work with, but they also wanted to kind of imprees - and top one another, which resulted in some amazing, revolutionary, course of rock music changing songs.

I used to picture the next album had they stayed together - say about 1972 - Imagine, Maybe I'm Amazed, My Sweet Lord, It Don't Come Easy - nice album.


Posted on Sun Dec 2 05:03:23 CET 2001 from mat-8-26.enter.net (207.16.156.128)

Little Brøther

From: the old Same place

Isn't it a pity? Isn't it a shame?

Watch out, now-- Take care, beware of greedy leaders
They'll take you where you should not go
While weeping Atlas cedars / They just want to grow
Grow and grow / Beware of darkness...
Beware of darkness.


Posted on Sun Dec 2 04:07:02 CET 2001 from ac9f256c.ipt.aol.com (172.159.37.108)

earley boy

It's a little difficult to address the idea of all of these wondeful artists passing. In a nod to George's idealism I would like to take a minute to thank everyone who has taken the time--time no one seems to have anymore--to contemplate on George's spirit and music as well as the awe inspiring music of The Band. I have visited this website more often than I can count and it was and is one of the singular sources of inspiration on the web. If so many of us care so much about musicians who cared so deeply about their music--the world cannot be too awful of a place. Many have addressed this idea but T.S. Eliot said something to the effect that without an end you can't have a beginning and that when you have reached the end, then you can begin. It's a sad day but think of the music being played somewhere, everywhere in tribute to George. How amazing.


Posted on Sun Dec 2 04:05:02 CET 2001 from hvc-24-164-173-109.hvc.rr.com (24.164.173.109)

Russell

From: High Falls,NY

Hey wanna strange kicker....??? Just when you thought big brother wasn't watching and taking notes... go to www.archive.org and type in your favorite old webpages, including Jan's great one here and travel back into the past of expired pages that seem to be magically cached at some website server whereabouts unknown. Wanna see this site as it appeared in 1998? Even if it's taken off of servers years ago, the content still appears like it orginally was up. Weird, eh? Russ


Posted on Sun Dec 2 02:05:36 CET 2001 from spider-wq021.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.145)

jcf

From: new york

One of my favorite songs when I was in seventh grade, was the George Harrison single "I've Got My Mind Set On You', this was when the song was a hit signle, and really before I was seriously into music, but it still brought me joy. I'm only a minor Beatles/ George Harriosn fan, but I did feel the loss on Friday morning... Just like to finish by sending my symapthies to those who felt the loss with greater magnitude.


Posted on Sun Dec 2 01:36:56 CET 2001 from (24.159.102.250)

Don Pugatch

From: Roswell, Ga

FYI, have 3 MP3 Cd's left from my offer from Thanksgiving, if anyone wants one, or another, just email me and will do.

On a more serious note, every Saturday, I put in my truck my mountain bike, take 2 Band Cd's and drive off to a wonderful trail to bike. Mostly every hill, is made by remembering the music of The Band, and the downhill is usually done by the same. This weekend, George Harrison was the mainliner on the CD's player and this weekend, the hills were alive with the sound of George. As I finished the trail, I looked up to the most magnificient Georgia Skies, so sunny and lightly scattered with clouds, thanked George, and gave myself an A- on today's trail. If I would have just made that jump, could have got that A, sorry George, not your fault. Don


Posted on Sun Dec 2 01:27:50 CET 2001 from spider-wa011.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.21)

calvin

Thanks for the defense Sam, and Brian, but don't be too hard on Nick, I knew when I typed my original post there would be Rabid fans of George who would take offense, especially given the circumastances. I almost didnt post knowing how GH fans might react. There has been something rolling around my mind the last 2 days though. Ive heard said time and time again how George, and in fact the other Beatles, never were able to maintain their Beatles chart success. When someone, whose named Im afraid I didnt catch, questioned the statement and said the Beatles spent a few years knocking themselves out of the No 1 spot I started thinking. GH had 13 top 40 singles, 2 No 1, and I belive 5 Top 10 Albums in about a 15 years span, given the other being similiar we'd have maybe 10 No 1 and 50 Top 40 singles, so why are the Beatles solo work viewed as not living up to expectations? I cant think of any 5 groups combined whose solo members have had their success.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 21:28:22 CET 2001 from sc-hiltonhead2a-295.hhe.adelphia.net (24.49.233.39)

Amanda

"George was a giant, a great, great soul, with all of the humanity, all of the wit and humor, all the wisdom, the spirituality, the common sense of a man and compassion for people. He inspired love and had the strength of a hundred men. He was like the sun, the flowers and the moon and we will miss him enormously. The world is a profoundly emptier place without him." --Bob Dylan


Posted on Sat Dec 1 20:06:27 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk031.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.31)

Bayou Sam

From: new york already

Can I talk about George some more? Thanks.

Thank you very much Hank - that was quite a compliment.

Calvin, I am a true, long time fan of George's music - Beatles, and solo - and I found your post totally honest and not the least bit offensive to a fan like myself. Nicks response to you was way out of line.

I popped my Concert for Bangladesh video in this morning to remember George's LIFE. I watched George's opening as he launched into Wah-Wah. There he was - center stage - he was out of the John/Paul shadow, and he put together this concert that would become a blueprint for other shows. He got some rock heavy weights and busted his ass doing a doing a totally un-selfish thing. I was happy for him, and that feeling collided with with the sorrow of realizing the long painful time he endured at the end. I shed a tear for George at that moment. But the rest of the video made me feel better.

Y'know, yesterday I posted some pretty dark lyrics from GH - so if you can stand another long post from me, I'd like to post another George song from '79 that I always loved the positive feel of. It's time for that now.

IF YOU BELIEVE

You can worry your life away with, not knowing what each new day will bring to you

Or take each day as it goes on, wake up to the love that flows on, around you

If you believe - if you believe in you

Everything you thought is possible, if you believe.... If you believe in me.All your love's reflected back at you

When you believe.

Too many troubles you can't control, to get you falling into the holes they dig for you

Get up - you have all your needs; Pray

Give up - and it all receds away from you

If you believe.................

FROM THE ALBUM "GEORGE HARRISON" - 1979


Posted on Sat Dec 1 20:08:07 CET 2001 from (66.188.89.48)

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

From: Madison, Wi.
Web page

Quote..."If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there". ~George Harrison~


Posted on Sat Dec 1 20:06:22 CET 2001 from spider-wl024.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.29)

Calvin

You know Sinatra called "Something" the best love song ever written Cupid, talk about crossing genres. I was always suspicious that possibly Frank, whose music I really enjoy, was probably clueless as to some of his "Duet" partners were. I just dont see Bono joining the Rat Pack, But Sinatra knew "Something", no pun intended.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 18:32:19 CET 2001 from ts1-15.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.15)

Cupid

After a crazy day yesterday I finally have a moment to myself, a moment to mourn the passing of another corner stone in the house of song. For years I've been trying to pen the perfect love song, a song of great beauty,simplicity and poetry and then I hear "Something" and am reminded that inspite of the inroads I've made I have miles and miles to go. Thanx for the music George, thanx for "Something" rest easy....Peace Cupid


Posted on Sat Dec 1 18:19:24 CET 2001 from spider-mtc-tk071.proxy.aol.com (64.12.107.51)

Calvin

Thanks Brian, you communicated in a few short sentances what I was unable to do it 2 longish posts. That while he music never moved me like others have, I still appreciated his music, and stand in appreciation of a man whose actions and conduct truly made the world a better place, on a mammoth scale. The number of people who can really say theyve done that is so very small. And I really believe it is for that we have the outpouring of emotion we are having today.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 17:53:29 CET 2001 from spider-tr052.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.197)

Brien Sz

From: nj

I'm in agreement with Calvin. Outside of a couple songs, Harrison never did it for me either. That's not to say he wasn't an admirable man, or a man that didn't deserve high praise or respect. I had great respect for him but never really liked enough of his material to purchase any of his music. I bow my head and give thanks to what he has contributed to our world, he will be missed.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 16:29:59 CET 2001 from spider-wa063.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.48)

calvin

Nick, I have no intention of argueing the merits of Harrison music, I did respect him as a musician. I was just never a big fan, and while his music never "spoke" to me, his personal actions did, very strongly. But saying someing is inexperienced or uneducated because they dont enjoy someone music is actually quite silly, taste is taste, thats like saying you have to be crazy for enjoying Blue over Yellow. There just isnt a right or wrong, Ive never been able to apprecaite Hendrix's music because he voice truly grates on me, doesnt make me wrong, just means I dont like his voice. But I think you really missed my point, that although I wasnt a big fan of the Man's music I found his conduct through 40 years of fame some outstanding that I still felt a sense of loss over his death.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 14:36:44 CET 2001 from dialup-286.cork.iol.ie (193.203.148.30)

Hank

From: Cork
Web page

I have to say that Bayou Sams last post was the best George Harrison Tribute I've read here or anywhere.......

Well Done!, Sam.....ThankYou.....

I notice there's not too much about The Concert for Bangla Desh in most of the media reports here. I would have thought it was Georges greatest achievement.....ie. to get the well-oiled, well-heeled, well-fed, self indulgent Rock'n'Roll industry to, for one day, give it up for the starving of the world. Bob Geldof has said Georges advice was invaluable in the run up to "Live Aid".........Of course, the harpies and the demons came after George for that Concert.....just like they did with "My Sweet Lord".....and when he was stabbed......he had a healthy distaste for the modern media.....which McCartney illustrated very well yesterday on Britains Sky News channel..........Oh well, that darkness can't touch him now and yeah, I know George is hanging out in eternity with Richard and Rick........no doubt about it.

It's been an intense few days......apart from George, two Irish musicians I knew very well have passed on as well......Noel Brazil, who wrote many of Mary Blacks best songs and Mic Christopher, leader of a Dublin band, The Mary Janes, have joined George at that Big Jam Session in the sky........ it's like Diamond L'il wrote about December......heavy days.........I played 'Twilight" last night at a gig in Wexford Town and thought of you L'il......I also played "Christmas Must Be Tonight" for the first time this year.......and thought of y'all.........


Posted on Sat Dec 1 14:25:29 CET 2001 from spider-wm034.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.164)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Dick Cavett said something on CNN last night I was thinking in regards to George Harrison. To paraphrase: 'This is a sad moment brought to you courtesy of the cigarette industry'. Sure, it's 20/20 hindsight, but you have to think, if not for those nasty things, George may still be with us today and Levon might still be singing away.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 13:55:18 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp174.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.174)

Diamond Lil

Wishing a very happy 18th (yikes!) birthday today to Shaun, who's not only my son but my friend as well. I'm so very proud of you (despite the fact that you will not permit me to sing 'happy birthday' to you in public :-)..and I know Dad would be so incredibly proud of you too. Love you.. ~ Mom

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 13:10:10 CET 2001 from du209-249.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.249.209)

*Meadowlark_2* (and Ilkka)

From: Nordic Countries

A cheerful side of GEORGE HARRISON:

GEORGE HARRISON was a follower of Grand Prix racing (Formula 1). He was a well known face around the British Brabham team pit in the old days, what a cheerful site with the _long_ hair and a shirt from India. The chief designer of the team and his friend GORDON MURRAY was a good guitarist as well as a good car designer. George Harrison was also a true fan of the team driver with the name _NELSON_ Piquet. And yes, indeed, George was _NELSON_ Wilbury in The Travelling Wilburys!
(From Nelson Piquet Supporters Club Magazine 1988)


Posted on Sat Dec 1 12:29:38 CET 2001 from (209.89.149.111)

John D

My heart is filled with sadness on the passing of George Harrison.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 11:08:48 CET 2001 from webcacheb02a.cache.pol.co.uk (195.92.168.164)

Michael

From: Newcastle, UK
Web page

It's largely irrelevant in the current scheme of things, but UK GBers might like the know that the GAP ad is being shown on Sky Sports 1.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 10:44:24 CET 2001 from grmn-105ppp69.dialup.valstar.net (199.224.105.69)

Diamond Lil

Jan: Those photos of a skiing Rick are priceless... thanks so much for posting them.

Is anyone else feeling that eerie 'December feeling' right now? "A long December and there's reason to believe, maybe this year will be better than the last......"


Posted on Sat Dec 1 08:58:42 CET 2001 from spider-wq064.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.184)

Nick

From: rockvile

Calvin, How sadly you are mistaken. George was one of the first 1960's great guitar legends. His sense of tune and slide guitar is legendary. Anyone who knows guitar knows George was first rate. So sit down and try to learn something. you embarrass yourself with an inexperienced comment like that.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 08:36:58 CET 2001 from spider-we022.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.27)

Bayou Sam

From: Deep Blue

Thank God that George is not in pain anymore.

ART OF DYING

There'll come a time when all of us must leave here

Then nothing Sister Mary can do to,will keep me here with you

As nothing in this life that I've been trying,can equal or surpass the art of dying - Do you believe me?

There'll come a time when all your hopes are fading

When things that seemed so very plain,become an awful pain

Searching for the truth among the lying, and answered when you learn the art of dying - do you believe me?

But if you want it - you must find it

But when you have it - there'll be no need for it.

There'll come a time when most of us return here

Bought back by our desire to be,a perfect entity

Living through a million years of crying, until you've realized the art of dying - do you believe me?

THE ART OF DYING - ALL THINGS MUST PASS 1970

From George's book, I Me Mine = "Everybody is worried about dying, but the cause of death is birth, so if you don't want to die you don't get born!So, the art of dying is when somebody can consciously leave the body at death, as opposed to falling down dying without knowing what's going on...........When you're born, your life is like a piece of string with knots in it and you've got to try, before you die, to undo all the knots: but you tie another twenty trying to get one undone. So in Karma we try to burn it out (fulfill desires)and that finally is possible when we have reached a very advanced spiritual level.........I mean I don't want to be lying there as I'm dying thinking 'Oh shit, I forgot to put the cat out'or,'I didn't get a Rolls Royce' because then you may have to come right back just to do those things, and then you have got more knots in your piece of string."

I believe that at that moment when George left this world, his string was without knots.

Rest in Peace George. Thanks for all you gave (including your nervous system). Thanks for giving us all the music to hang on to.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 07:30:37 CET 2001 from hse-toronto-ppp179129.sympatico.ca (64.229.85.210)

Blind Willie McTell

Dylan has a song on his new album with the chorus 'sad and lonesome day'. I was thinking about when I saw George at Maple Leaf Gardens in 1974. My first Beatle in concert!

Truly a Sad and Lonesome Day.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 05:49:52 CET 2001 from parachute3-156-40-62-47.net.nih.gov (156.40.62.47)

Jonathan Katz

From: Columbia, MD

RIP George Harrison. I will miss the sincerity and the music.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 02:42:57 CET 2001 from spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.69)

Calvin

I was never a big George Harrison fan, sure I had a greatest hits package and thought the John and Paul should have let him write more, and frankly I felt his post Beatles work never lived up to the promise of his Beatles writings. And Ive never been one to be that affected by the death of a celebrity unless I actually knew him or her personally, Rick Danko being one of the few exceptions. But in Harrison I do feel a sense of loss, not because of him being an important part of Rock history, but because he just seemed a really decent human being. Really the antithesis of the Rock Star, you never got the sense the Harrison was self asorbed-and the fact that he undertook a number of causes that werent really popular and without fanfair because it was the right thing to do struck a chord with me. I dont "love" George Harrison, his music didnt touch me in anyway, and frankly I dont think he was a great a musician as were making him out to be today. But of the men and women who came out of that era he seemed to be the most decent human being, the one you most want to be a teacher at your kids school, or as a neighbor, or just the guy at the cubicle next to you at work. I know some may see what Ive just typed as a bit sacriligous at this juncture, but I sincerely mean it as flattery. He seemed to be a really good man who since around 1962 simply didnt have to be unless he wanted to, that he did says a lot. I also find it unsettling that half of the Beatles are gone, seems strange doesnt it?


Posted on Sat Dec 1 02:38:08 CET 2001 from ess-p-203-54-72-141.mega.tmns.net.au (203.54.72.141)

Fritz

From: Sydney, Australia

"Everything else can wait but the search for God cannot wait, and love one another."

George Harrison


Posted on Sat Dec 1 02:23:35 CET 2001 from spider-wm023.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.158)

JTull Fan

From: Richmond

Went to Monticello today. You would think Thomas Jefferson and George Harrison would have nothing in common, but they do. I am told that on some days, 175 years after his death, over THREE THOUSAND people visit Monticello and view his legacy every day. 175 years from now, I do not doubt that George Harrison's legacy will also be shining brightly.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 01:54:50 CET 2001 from 25-pool1.ras11.ohclv.tii-dial.net (206.148.88.25)

Yaya

From: Here there and every where

Hi folks, Remember the Badfinger stuff too ???Produced by George????Play on ,Keep listening, peace to all who knew George.... peace to us all ,"

" I was honored and excited to play anything that had to with him,from the Beatles to the Wilburrys, on the radio"

" Day After Day Produced by George Harrison © 1974 Peter Ham, Badfinger "

"I remember finding out about you "

"Every day my mind is all around you "

"Looking out from my lonely room, Day after day "

"Bring it home, baby someday soon I give my love to you "

"I remember holding you while you sleep Every day I feel the tears the tears that you weep "

"Looking out of my lonely gloom, Day after day Bring it home, maybe someday soon I give my love to you ............. (solo) L"

"ooking out of my lonely room, Day after day Bring it home, baby someday soon I give my love to you I remember finding out about you Every day my mind is all around you Looking out from my lonely room, Day after day Bring it home, baby make it soon I give my love to you ...............


Posted on Sat Dec 1 01:34:53 CET 2001 from cpe0080c6e9efaa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (24.42.205.190)

Lisa Corkery

I was reading an article on rollingstone.com about George and found yet another Band reference, when he was asked about his relationship with John Lennon: "

" "The major impression Harrison left with me that day was the depth of his spiritual conviction. Speaking of his feelings about John Lennon in the wake of Lennon's death, Harrison told me that their closeness continued. "That's there permanently, whether he's in a physical body or not," he said. "I mean, this is the goal anyway: to realize the spiritual side. If you can't feel the spirit of some friend who's been that close, then what chance have you got of feeling the spirit of Christ or Buddha or whoever else you may be interested in? 'If your memory serves you well, we're going to meet again.' I believe that." "

" I hope he's right."

" ANTHONY DECURTIS" "

" Just thought that might be of some interest to fans mourning his loss like I have been all day today. "

" Check out www.allthingsmustpass.com for some really fun and cute python-esque George treats. Listen to the record and buy it and live the words, "All things must pass, all things must pass away" "

" And particularly notable in this day and age "isn't it a pity, isn't it a shame? How we break each others hearts, and cause each other pain. How we take each others love, without thinking any more. Forgetting to give back, now isn't it a pity?"


Posted on Sat Dec 1 01:11:23 CET 2001 from ool-182e0c58.dyn.optonline.net (24.46.12.88)

Lau

From: You Know Where

For you George. Friend of a friend. May The SWEET LORD bless all of your spiritual days. May the heavens celebrate your beauty of inner peace. With John. What was within you is without us. GOD BLESS YOU... Cherish the way before the end of all your days please... Like George did. From your American Female George. P.S. Hope ec and patti, Paul and Ringo are allright. R0-ecoute pour le discussion. Beaucoup d'assistance pour toi. Beaucoup du travaille. Pour tout. C'est l'importance premiere....Ma travaille c'est tres tres tres important... Malgre ce que la difference avec nous, mon coeur est la meme. MAIS, ma travaille... encore, pour tout. Beacuoup du vanite n'est pas le bonne route pour moi maintentant. Le travaille. N'est-ce pas. Apres la, ok. Avoir. L.


Posted on Sat Dec 1 00:07:45 CET 2001 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.nl.home.com (212.120.101.7)

1943-2001......thanx for sharing and modesty......


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