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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, June 2013


Entered at Sun Jun 30 19:57:59 CEST 2013 from (50.100.174.9)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Radio Steven

Well done, John! The intellect and talent of both the interviewee and the interviewer came through loud and clear. That was radio at its best.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 19:30:47 CEST 2013 from (92.236.128.33)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Birmingham UK

Subject: Magic Moments

Dunc - both Magic Moments and Story of My Life are on my all time favourite compilations. I hadn't thought of going to see Burt B. but he's had a mega influence on our music. We saw Beethoven's 8th and 9th last night in Birmingham. Absolutely 5 star.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 18:28:52 CEST 2013 from (74.179.56.185)

Posted by:

BWNWITenn

Anyone who likes Jackson C. Frank should also check out Karen Dalton. Very similar tragic life story, and great music, although much more of an acquired taste than Frank's. Kind of a folkie Billie Holiday. A Greenwich Village contemporary of Bob Dylan, who wrote in Chronicles that she was his favorite singer, her second album was recorded at Bearsville Studios, featured Richard Bell on piano and includes "In A Station." She's also rumored to be the subject of the Basement Tapes song "Katie's Been Gone."


Entered at Sun Jun 30 18:12:52 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Beatles are Back in the USSR

Baby It's You would be The Beatles one.

Frankie Vaughan was an extremely nice guy, and had the knack of making the lowliest theatre hand feel part of the team. Many entertainers are said to have a "heart of gold", but true in his case.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 15:56:44 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Allman Brothers:Brothers and Sisters Deluxe Boxset

Want to STRONGLY recommend this 4 disc set.A masterpiece in so many ways.Captures a special time in musical history and for this band.If you want more info or review I'd be happy to comment-if not,purchase this release, kick back,relax and enjoy!


Entered at Sun Jun 30 14:37:30 CEST 2013 from (86.173.113.43)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Thanks

That's correct, Peter. And you told me a lot more than I knew. Frankie Vaughn was huge in Britain. I will always remember his genuine help in trying to disarm Glasgow gangs. See link.

Michael Holiday's song I really like. Something must be inside me that links that song to my past. I was fascinated/horrified when he killed himself.

Magic Moments was definitely Mums and Dads music for me, but I think it weas the signature tune to a Perry Como series.

Burt also mentioned the fact that the Beatles covered one of his songs. He played this too.

Great singing and great musicianship.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 14:02:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Further on Tower of Strength. We were trying to choose between using El Condor Pasa (If I Could) or Tower of Strength for the ELT textbook. There was a major pressure to use "If I Could" because so many teachers use it anyway and have for years, and as we had to re-record, it's a lot easier to do a cover version of. We got several teachers to try the originals with classes of students aged 16-25, and this was about ten years ago. You rarely get a 100% result in a "which do you prefer?' poll, but Tower of Strength got it.

The link goes to Frankie Vaughan's version. When we did it, our producer was amazed. He's an expert at finding cover singers, but he said finding someone to sing like Frankie Vaughan was incredibly hard.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 13:54:20 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Early Burt Catches The Hit

The Story of My Life had four charting versions in the UK and one in the USA, three middle of the road: Michael Holiday (UK 1), Alma Cogan, Dave King and teen pop singer Gary Miller. The original American was Marty Robbins. He followed it fast with Magic Moments for Perry Como who got the hit , number one in the UK where it did better than the USA, but Dave King and Alma Cogan both covered it as well.

Maybe he means Tower of Strength? I think that's a credible song myself, and we did an ELT teaching version a few years ago. We lined up the versions, expecting to prefer the Gene McDaniels original, but all of us preferred the Frankie Vaughan cover that was a British number one. I did lights on that twice nightly, six days a week for a summer, and it was my choice. The other cover, and EMI's hat in the ring was by one Paul Raven. Ten years later known as Gary Glitter. It's appallingly bad. You'd only call the Frankie Vaughan MoR really, and that's wrong because it rocks harder than both the others.

I don't know what the instrumental was.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 12:18:18 CEST 2013 from (86.173.113.43)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Had a great night at the Burt Baccharach Glasgow concert. Really good show. First time he has played Glasgow.

Quiz question for Peter. Halfway into show he talks about the years of rejection then he has four hits, but 'different music from what he became famous for'. Songs for crooners. A novelty instrumental then three songs I knew well. Probably from my mum and dad playing them. Two were sung by different singers across here in Britain. Name the songs and the artists, Peter?

A question for discussion. What was the extent of Burt Baccharach's input/impact on the Mersey sound? Interesting.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 09:00:27 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

On my Spiers and Boden mentioning Poole a lot, Joe J might be interested … Poole's fortunes were built on the Newfoundland trade between 1535 and 1815.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 01:49:29 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: south of the border...a little older....been around

Subject: Happy Canada Weekend

Happy Canada Day & weekend to all you folks north of the US.

Norm, I feel kind of bad that you're always busting ass, but I think it's in your blood. You wouldn't be happy watching the world go by.....sitting in your rockin' chair and identifying song birds as they flitter through your backyard. Take care of yourself, Old Salt. Take solace that your House of Worship annuity that you invested in has changed in its value....you'd be surprised.


Entered at Sun Jun 30 00:18:12 CEST 2013 from (50.100.174.9)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Civilized

Peter V: This is precisely what I was getting at in my previous commendation of the street music available in a people-oriented city. Enjoy! We get a little of this in Toronto but we need large squares and pedestrian areas with restaurants and stores free of cars where musicians are comfortable and relaxed.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 23:11:43 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Spiers & Boden

Lovely evening, watching Spiers & Boden at Poole's "Folk on The Quay" Festival … see the link. Some photos too (small camera only) as everyone was taking them. Had I known, I'd have taken my big camera. Still … it gives an idea. As they said our local folk festival was "more civilised and far less corporate than Glastonbury"


Entered at Sat Jun 29 22:11:45 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.88)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Kevin J: You didn't even mention Pater V's sophisticated accent. I'd drink warm beer to sound posh like that. As for Moonquake, here is a link to my favourite song from their two albums. I saw two of the three members play once each - bassist / singer / leader Jack Geisinger at the Ex in '70 when he and Wally Rossi were in Luke and the Apostles, and guitarist Hovaness Hagopian at the El Month ca '80. Not sure why; maybe as Rossi's bassist.

The exciting news on the Pacemaker website is the upcoming reissue of the Brilliant '68 album recored by Influence, which included both Geisinger and Rossi. The two had started out in Montreal in Bob and the Messengers with organist Bob Parkin, who evolved into the Soulmates who backed Wilson Pickett for a time with Buddy Miles on drums. Than, post Pickett and Miles they evolved into Influence, afer which Parkin and Rossi reunited with Miles for Buddy's wonderful "Them Changes". I guess Geisinger was with Pagliaro by then, in a lineup that was essentially Pag + Moonquake.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 21:37:52 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Greetings

Thank you Kevin for the greeting......Happy Canada Day to all the folks here in our gang as well..even Landmark:):):).

Also Happy 4th of July to all our 'Merican friends, as I'll probably be out working.

Congrats on the Stan's Cup too Pat. In those days of the "Golden Jet", Stan Mikita, Kenny Warrem, Phil Espisito, Pierre Pilot.....the 60's, I was always a Chicago fan.

Remember, I believe Chicago still has more Canadian players than any other team. With the wonder of Youtube, after getting in off my tug yesterday, I was able to watch the last 2 minutes of the final. Great action.

In the 70's, I was appreciative of the Bobby Orr team, Wayne Cashman, Phil Espisito, and many others. However, I just see the now Boston as a goon team, similar to the early 70's "Broad Street Bullies".

Best to all, have a happy weekend.....Hello Lars.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 21:33:47 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I noticed at the beginning that Rick's fingers on the frets didn't seem synched to the sound.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 18:59:38 CEST 2013 from (99.141.48.165)

Posted by:

Adam

Web: My link

Peter, I think you're correct. That "Don't Do It" is probably the footage from the NYE show, synched to the finished production ROA audio.

Above is that photo that shows Garth on tenor sax, with Levon filmed singing. And this image might be from a front camera, in the first place, maybe? There was an article in Jan's archives that talked about how back in 1971, they did plan on doing a TV special or something with ROA footage.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 15:40:30 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: HAPPY CANADA DAY WEEKEND

Happy Canada Day Weekend to all my Canadian friends.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 14:50:29 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: RoA

Just re-watching Don't Do It. How many camera operators? They must have been wandering about. Some very weird angles like the back of Levon's shirt, and Richard while Levon is singing. Judging by the medium quality of the video, and the high sound quality, we're not hearing the actual film sound, but presumably the sound board post-synched on?


Entered at Sat Jun 29 12:54:33 CEST 2013 from (50.100.174.9)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Quotation marks

No problem! John has always being the quintessential communicator whether on the airwaves or in print.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 10:28:05 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I enjoyed Moonquake. I'd never heard of them … good song, but the guy who put the video together did a wonderful job, Very entertaining. I'll download the song from iTunes.

A reminder … as I go through the Tommy James book, the Morris Levy stories got better. He disliked Henry Glover as a producer. He says:

Henry was very uptight and intent on doing things his way. Unfortunately that meant a lot of stock, very-predictable sounding stuff. The guys and I would lay down a good rhythm track. which Henry would try to jazz up with a bunch of studio horn players doing schlock arrangements. It was torture.

No quotation marks, but the separate paragraph following "He says:" is a clue.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 10:02:21 CEST 2013 from (99.141.48.165)

Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Rock Of Ages

Pat, I really think the late Phil Ramone's one comment that ROA was from soundchecks it not proven true. He clarified that he meant "soundcheck night(s)". Meaning that December 31, New Year's Eve, was meant to be the live takes, but they ended up using takes from earlier in the residency... the "soundcheck nights" leading up to the big NYE show. There were 4 individual shows, and they had to have recorded them all. I predict the set will be in original concert sequence, with more Dylan rehearsal added, and a DVD of more footage. Robbie said around the time of "A Musical History" (2005) that the ROA footage was long forgotten, lost, and this track turned up. Clearly they found more canisters of other footage from the shows. I have always noted that picture of Garth playing W.S. Walcott on the tenor sax, with cameramen clearly on stage and behind.

I really hope the DVD will contain at least 10 tracks. The "Don't Do It" footage has to be from New Year's Eve, where Robbie wore that purple jacket that is in the Rock Hall in Cleveland.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 07:20:15 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.55)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

John D: 35 years ago sitting in a haze of smoke at Night Magic club - rue St. Paul in Old Montreal - listening to the linked song above, Bill M and I made a pact........that no matter how we saw this inevitable Guest Book dedicated to The Band take form.....we would, regardless of the difficulty, always strive to make Peter V come off as more intelligent and sophisticated than we were.............even back then Bill M saw that Peter had sways toward wanting Cher at TLW and irresponsibley predicting big things from bands like The Civil Wars......but but but....a pact was a pact....and the deal was made.........alas, we humbly accept that he gets it and we don't.

Kidding.......Happy Canada Day weekend to you John and Norm and Landmark and BEG and Bill and JT and Mike Nomad and NB and Bonk and Serenity and sadavid and Fred and any other Canadians that care.......


Entered at Sat Jun 29 05:04:30 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Well, this live 1971 release could be from the actual shows rather than the soundcheck, and the rehearsals at Ultrasonic Studio will probably be added. Finally, we may learn that there is more footage than Don't Do It.

Personally, I'd rather have the long promised RAH.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 03:12:28 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill & Kevin

Well I just went back and I think I know why you two were confused. I began the dissertation; from this guy with the following line. Well I found the following on Steve Hoffman's Music forums. Here's his account: I thought that would make it clear. It was his story about the subject that I initially brought up. It seemed to be clear to everyone else. I'll work on my quotation marks for you Kev.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 03:04:56 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill M

I just read your last post about me and now I'm confused. What's this grade 12 stuff your talking about? I just went back and there is nothing about that anywhere. Also sorry Kevin J was confused. Peter and others seemed to understand it.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 01:43:21 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.55)

Posted by:

Kevin J

....very interesting news Adam......especially the DVD.......Hmmmm.......fingers crossed on what it might contain........I loved the album but the expanded release of some years back sounded off so I imagine at the least, this new release will sound great.


Entered at Sat Jun 29 01:36:43 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.55)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Just heard an ad on CFRB 1010 for John D's interview/profile on LSVZ so it would seem confirmed for Sunday at 1300hrs.......interesting to wonder if a good many listeners to 1010 might well know Little Stevie more for The Sopranos than his rock n roll job?


Entered at Sat Jun 29 01:36:53 CEST 2013 from (99.141.48.165)

Posted by:

Adam

Subject: "Rock Of Ages" super deluxe edition

More details are emerging about The Band's "Rock Of Ages" super deluxe edition!

The Band's Facebook posted today that they are "In the process of mastering the upcoming release." On the MusicTap website, it notes that "Capitol Records have a live album featuring The Band scheduled for release on September 17. The album will be known as Live At The Academy Of Music 1971."

In addition, on the JamBands website, a comment was made attributed to Garth Hudson: "Robbie got Bob’s permission to add two rehearsals. Plus there will be a DVD." I will have to ask Garth & Maud more about this...


Entered at Fri Jun 28 22:02:14 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Yes….John’s omissions of quotation marks can lead to confusion………………and by the way, I agree with you completely on the sorry state of affairs at City Hall……..a disgrace. Too late for Toronto to ever be a pretty city in the way a Montreal is or so many of the great European cities are but planning is needed to build properly and authority is needed to say NO to builders that play the game of getting approval for 10-14 story buildings and then just file amendments that are automatically approved to do 29 story buildings.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 21:32:50 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: This Chris biz has caused more problems. I was reading John D's post and got really confused when all of a sudden he was talking about being in grade 12 in '94 (ha!) Turned out I'd missed John's all-important note that he was about to repost something from a guy named Chris.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 21:15:46 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

…..So……late, late last night…….I was asleep when I thought I heard a female yelling a name in a high falsetto voice…..sounded like 'Chriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis!'……………I was worried for a few reasons……1. This is” Pride” week in Toronto and it dawned on me that it was possible that one of the revellers might have broken into my condo, 2. I was at quite a party last night and I did tell a few of the females seeking my attention that my name was Chris………..finally though I realized that it was nothing more than 100 or so middle to late aged men all over the world playing The Graduate soundtrack - all at the same time!


Entered at Fri Jun 28 17:31:03 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: McGoohan's Blues

Hats off to Roy Harper. It was just the one song that was really special to me in the late '70s. Here's a link to just it - all 17+ minutes.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 16:25:52 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Tronno / Roy Harper

JT: You're right about Toronto. With a total dickwit of a mayor, who despite it all has enough puddingheaded supporters to win again next time, there's little hope of any improvements that weren't already underway when he was elected. As a planner by training, I get really bumbed out by this.

In other news, your mention of finding Jackson Frank on Youtube caused me to see if anybody had posted Roy Harper's "folkjokeopus", and someone has - the full album. Great stuff, though not, in the early going at least, as special as it had grown to be in my memory. My next task it to see if Dino Valenti's Epic LP is there too.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 16:10:21 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Scarborough Fair

Yes Peter, I too have a Japanese version of the "Collection" album. I've now heard it on every version, ranging from 1:55 to 2:03. You really can't have any noise around you when listening. Anyway a friend of mine just told me to get out of semi-retirement and that I do have too much time; on my hands.

Meanwhile I am going to M.C. the Mariposa Folk Festival next weekend. Among those there will be Randy Bachman backed by the Sadies; who were on the Garth tribute CD and Arlo Guthrie.

Also if anyone is interested and things don't change; before Sunday, I will be on CFRB 1010 Radio on Sunday between 1-2 p.m.; with my interview; with Steven Van Zandt talking about the Rascals and Bruce and the E Street Band. Programming can always change; but at this point it's a go.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 15:56:35 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Follow-up to Jackson C Frank post

Thanks very much for the feedback, follow-up ("Follows-up" ???) and kind comments. I hadn't seen the Oriole webpage before. I did know that the Levy's Studio was used to record the Woolworth-distributed discs but not the detail about how the operation worked. So, thanks for that, too.

I do not have the original 1965 Jackson C. Frank vinyl album but did buy the 1978 reissue on B&C Records which was entitled "Jackson Again". I have also bought three versions on CD. The 1996 CD on Mooncrest (retitled "Blues Run The Game")has five unreleased songs from 1975 as extra tracks and reasonable liner notes. The same five extra tracks appear on the 2001 CD (back to the "Jackson C. Frank" title) on Castle/Sanctuary but you also get a booklet with more extensive liner notes, some illustrations and an introduction by Bert Jansch, who supplied the original LP sleeve reproduced in the booklet. Both of these had 15 tracks (10 from 1965 and 5 from 1975).Then, in 2003, Sanctuary produced a double-CD "Expanded De-Luxe Edition" now back to "Blues Run The Game" as the title. This has the original 10-track album, plus both sides of the 1965 single (one is a different recording of the title track and the other is a non-album song that has Sandy Denny on tambourine apparently). This release also has the five 1975 recordings plus three others from the same session, seven songs from a 1960 acetate (called "Peaches & Crust"), six songs from a 1994 studio session and nine (seven songs, two repeated) from "kitchen-recordings" made in 1997. I don't know if I've got the numbers right but the double-CD has 43 tracks in total and I can't imagine there will be much more to come. The liner notes for this 2003 "expanded" edition are different from those on the 2001 release and there are more photographs, including some in colour.

Jackson C. Frank's life was a like a Shakespearean tragedy. Jansch described Frank as "an absolute genius" which may overstate things but indicates how well he was regarded in Britain. His one album has the odd track that fits the time it was made but now sounds a touch "soppy" but, overall, it stands up well.

A few additional notes.

First, the track entitled "Prima Donna of Swans" on all the CD reissues is actually called "Madonna of Swans".

Second, the suggestion to write a book is interesting in that I was approached to write one on Dylan but I declined, partly because there are too many books on Dylan and partly because the timing and the deadline did not suit me at that time. Perhaps I'll succomb to the temptation of seeing my name in some academic bibliography some time but not now.

Third, I have written about Dylan's session at Levy's Recording Studios in May 1965. There was an article and then a follow-up piece. Both appeared in ISIS magazine; neither is available on-line, to the best of my knowledge. If anyone cares to put a request in this GB, with their e-mail address, I can send a pdf of each article.

Fourth, Morris Levy had a brother in the business whose name was Jacques and, in a curious coincidence, another Jacques Levy co-wrote many of the songs on DESIRE with Dylan.

Fifth, there was an article on Jackson C. Frank in MELODY MAKER (22 March 1975), another in DIRTY LINEN (#57, April/May 1995) and one in FOLK ROOTS (#146-147, Aug/Sep 1995).

Finally, there is also a Wiki entry, which I never looked at before, so thanks once more for stimulating me to look.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_C._Frank


Entered at Fri Jun 28 15:30:55 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: secrets of the über-producer

Rick Rubin interviewed @ Shangri-La.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 15:26:18 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: what would Rick do?

I had the TV on in the background while puttering about when the tune on this advertisement caught my ear.

"Hey, that's Rick's song," sez I to myself -- "zippy version, too."

It turns out that the ad was for a quasi-charitable organization whose goal is to change the world by improving the neighbourhood. Makes (cosmic) sense . . . .


Entered at Fri Jun 28 15:20:24 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Scarborough Fair continued

Yet another repeat from me. We did a video called “Double Identity” which was a one hour comedy English teaching drama for Oxford University Press. We needed a busker for the story, and we needed the busker to sing something everyone knew, but no one wanted to get involved in permissions because it means renewing them and tracking them. So my editor volunteered to go into the OUP library and research songs that Oxford had copyrighted. Lo and behold, he found two, Scarborough Fair and The Leaving of Liverpool, both copyrighted by OUP in the 1920s. So we could use Scarborough Fair (but not the Canticle bit). The trouble was that Martin Carthy had shifted the end of a line by a note or so, so that singing it exactly to the music sounded slightly odd, but that’s what we had to do. The actor/ singer we booked found it an absolute bastard to avoid singing it the well-known way. We were filming in the streets, and a passer-by tapped me on the shoulder and said, ‘He hasn’t got it quite right …’ but he had. To the 1920s music. We used The Leaving of Liverpool as well, which was OK because nobody had ever tinkered with it.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 15:08:53 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'm worried about my ears now, John. I played my CBS first issue CD of Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme and couldn't find a noise after "scarlet …" then I played the track from the Simon & Garfunkel Collection CD and definitely thought I could hear it. Next up, the Old Friends box set … noticeably much better fidelity and I couldn't find it. Then the original 45 which I bought new and I couldn't. But I think it went into the red on the early CD at 2.26 on "going."


Entered at Fri Jun 28 14:58:09 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: John d: other things you can never unhear

Just before the 'na na na's' in 'Hey Jude', if you listen to the background, someone starts it early and says "Ooooh" (to my ears, it sounds like Eric Clapton, but it could be George). An unmistakeable John Lennon then says something, very clearly, that really should have had 'hey Jude' banned fron the bbc. :) the nose knows...


Entered at Fri Jun 28 14:40:10 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: OK. Scarborough Fair/Canticle....I now know I have way too much time on my hands....

Very late last night, I decide to go to YouTube to find Jackson C Frank. While there I notice a 6:00 minute version of Scarborough Fair by S&G. How didn't I know about this? Well, that's because I have never owned the soundtrack from The Graduate. Now the reason for this upcoming rant.

The house is very quiet and I'm listening to the 6:00 minute version. Suddenly at 1:55 of the song I hear a brief piece of either feedback or a high pitched oscillator sound coming from the left channel. It can't be! Never heard that before. I play the part over and over and the "sound" is there. I decide to pull out by CD 3:12 version. It's gets to 1:55 and no sound. OK, must be a problem with the Graduate soundtrack. Before I can stop the CD the sound appears at 1:59. Now you see why I posted the Subject of this ramble.

OK. One more time, I go back to YouTube and listen to the 3:12 version and it immediately sounds really mint. I sit back. 1:55 no high pitched sound; from the left channel. Hmmmmm. 1:59 no high pitched sound from the left channel. I smile. They must have fixed it. However at 2:03! Bang there it is.

The only reason I post this is that I have been listening to this track, first on vinyl and then on CD; since 1966. Never have I heard this. Then again my listening conditions were perfect last night. Now, I'll be forever listening for it.

One last thing. I decided to Google with "Scarborough Fair/Canticle weird noise. Well I found the following on Steve Hoffman's Music forums.Here's his account:

Does anyone know what that strange whining noise is on Simon and Garfunkel's recording of 'Scarborough Fair/Canticle?' Has anyone else noticed it?

It appears at 1:57 into the song right after Paul sings the word 'Scarlet' on the phrase 'Scarlet Battalions.'

I first noticed this in 1987 when I was listening to Simon and Garfunkel's 'Greatest Hits' on my early Sony Discman. I discovered this sound by accident. I was a Senior in High School at the time and was listening to this CD with my eyes closed. My mother is kind of wacky and sometimes she used to call me by yelling my name in a high falsetto voice and dragging it out. She'd yell, 'Chriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis!'

I was, of course, at this particular point in 'Scarborough Fair' and thought my Mom was calling me. I paused the CD and went into the living room where my Mom was and said, 'You called me?' Of course, she laughed and said, 'No. I didn't call you.' Well, I went back into my bedroom, rescued 'Scarborough Fair' from the beginning, got to the same point in the song and thought my Mom was calling me again. Well, after confronting my Mom again I used the search feature and was able to isolate that moment in the song with that high pitched noise.

Needless to say, to this day that sound jumps out at me every time I hear the song.

JD here once again. Thank you for letting me ramble.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 13:33:09 CEST 2013 from (50.100.174.9)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Thank you Ian

Like many of the comments in You Tube where I listened to a few of his songs, many praised Jackson C. Frank and some called the album one of their favourites. Thank you, Ian, for the attention you gave to this singer. From the little I have read so far, he clearly had a significant influence on a number of well respected performers and rightly so.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 13:05:52 CEST 2013 from (50.100.174.9)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Jackson C. Frank

John D: I had never heard of Jackson C. Frank. Like you, because of his connection to the 60s music scene, I have spent some time reading about this singer. It occurred to me, now that I am back in Toronto, that all those people I heard in Lund, Malmo, Oxford and London as well as especially in Copenhagen, have a connection to people like him and are struggling to make a living and do the thing they love to do. I will also try to hear his music (for the first time) when I am able. The music on the street by these players was predominately Dylan, Young and Cohen though there was a smattering of Pink Floyd and a few others. They were largely single players, though in Copenhagen on 2 occasions in the mall area, there were bands (one acoustic; another pumped up electric and loud (evening event). This stuff as you know is all free. Europe is special. We don't get too much of that here, except in the subways where no one listens. There is something special about sitting nearby in an outside pub or restaurant area sipping something while listening to someone. We need open malls without cars and more connecting trains and subways to get people around. There is something to be said for cities that have thought long and hard about what people need and then act on it. Too many cars, too much speed, and not enough open air malls and rails. Lets go Toronto!


Entered at Fri Jun 28 12:57:05 CEST 2013 from (76.124.39.182)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: By the Pond

Subject: The Buoys

Hey Kevin, thanks for the additional information on Jerry. At the time we met, he was the guy with the guitar, who came by every two weeks to conduct music therapy for a diverse group of mentally ill patients. A challenging group at times, to say the least. He remained nonplussed, no matter what the encounter was like. He would do singalongs, taking requests and dealing with whatever key or keys a song would end up in. He was great with the extremely shy patients, and calming with the outrageous rowdy ones. He would sometimes bring his big, furry dog, who was also a natural therapist in his own way. It was magic, seeing them brighten up the place.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 09:53:07 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

To clarify "Columbia" below means EMI's Columbia label, which had nothing to do with CBS, and was why CBS couldn't use the "Columbia" name over most of Europe.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 09:50:38 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'm sure you'll be delighted with "Blues Run The Game" John.

I hadn't known Paul Simon recorded at Oriole's studio. We usually talk about "The Big Four" record companies in Britain, but Record Collector this month uses 'The Big Five" and includes Oriole. Oriole had only a few hits … The Spotniks and Maureen Evans were their stars. Oriole-American was the label on early Tamla Motown releases. Some Oriole American discs are now worth four-figure sums. The reason Oriole was important is the reason CBS bought them: their pressing plants. Oriole owned Embassy, sold exclusively by Woolworths'. The plants kept active churning out Woolworths' Embassy cover discs on a weekly basis, and Embassy had a significant 5% share of the UK overall market in sales terms.

Some artists and most of the session players were not adverse to recording for Decca, Pye, Philips or Columbia one week, and then popping round to Embassy on Thursdays for the three hour session which nailed that week’s cover version releases. Often Embassy would deliberately book the same backing musicians for the session to save time. Each session produced four songs, and the three hours included setting up time and a mandatory Musician’s Union coffee break. The Thursday session allowed the records to be pressed, dispatched and on sale in Woolworths on the following Monday. Thirty minutes was the common time taken per track, although they did have the problem of changing the arrangement enough to avoid infringing the original arranger’s copyright.

All sorts of odd deals took place. Chas McDevitt and Nancy Whisky recorded Freight Train as an Oriole single, then became The Cranes for the subsidiary label Embassy’s cover version, which is the same record. Many 60s artists are said to have recorded for Embassy under pseudonyms. NOT Elton John though, that was five years later for the Avenue budget label, owned by Pye.

Interest is growing in Embassy releases, and CDs are emerging … one has all the Beatles covers done by Embassy.

CBS killed Oriole immediately on taking over, but had to run Embassy for a few more months, presumably because of existing contracts. Ironically, in the late 70s someone at CBS found they owned the trademarked name Embassy and put it on a series of budget reissues of original LPs, not knowing that to the average consumer of my age, "Embassy" meant cover version.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 05:06:20 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Oriole Records U.K.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 04:54:24 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Rufus & Martha Wainwright honor their mother...

Hi guys;-Nice reading as usual..Thanks to all...

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KEVIN J: I remember ROBBIE and the Leonard Peltier incident. I wrote on RR's FB wall and asked him to do more to free this man for doing something he didn't do..Maybe he doesn't do anything because the man is in very poor health. [as if that should matter]...I have his [L.P.] book, "Prison Writings"..

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Canadian Walk Of Fame: Not only have they left out THE BAND, but TOM JACKSON. I have been voting for him for the past few years, but nothing as yet, and he deserves it too. He has won a few Humanitarian Awards besides his films and tours for the food banks here. Very deserving for sure..

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Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


Entered at Fri Jun 28 04:08:16 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jackson C Frank

His eponymous 1965 album, Jackson C. Frank, was produced by Paul Simon while the two of them were also playing folk clubs in England. Frank was so shy during the recording that he asked to be shielded by screens so that Paul Simon, Art Garfunkel, and Al Stewart (who also attended the recording) could not see him, claiming 'I can't play. You're looking at me.'

In 1984, Frank took a trip to New York City in a desperate bid to locate Paul Simon, but he ended up sleeping on the sidewalk. His mother, who had been in hospital for open heart surgery, found he had left with no forwarding address when she arrived home. He was living on the street and was frequently admitted and discharged from various institutions. He was treated for paranoid schizophrenia, a diagnosis that was refuted by Frank himself as he had always claimed that he actually had depression caused by the trauma he had experienced as a child. Just as Frank’s prospects seemed to be at their worst, a fan from the area around Woodstock, Jim Abbott, discovered him in the early 1990s. Abbott had been discussing music with Mark Anderson, a teacher at the local college he was attending. The conversation had turned to folk music, which they both enjoyed, when Abbott asked the teacher if he had heard of Frank. He recollected:

"I hadn’t even thought about it for a couple of years, and he goes, ‘Well yes, as a matter of fact, I just got a letter from him. Do you feel like helping a down-on-his-luck folk singer?"

Frank, who had known Anderson from their days at Gettysburg College, had decided to write him to ask if there was anywhere in Woodstock he could stay after he had made up his mind to leave New York City. Abbott phoned Frank, and then organized a temporary placement for him at a senior citizens’ home in Woodstock. Abbott was stunned by what he saw when he travelled to New York to visit Frank.

"When I went down I hadn’t seen a picture of him, except for his album cover. Then, he was thin and young. When I went to see him, there was this heavy guy hobbling down the street, and I thought, ‘That can’t possibly be him’...I just stopped and said ‘Jackson?’ and it was him. My impression was, ‘Oh my God’, it was almost like the elephant man or something. He was so unkempt, dishevelled.” a further side effect of the fire was a thyroid malfunction causing him to put on weight. “He had nothing. It was really sad. We went and had lunch and went back to his room. It almost made me cry, because here was a fifty-year-old man, and all he had to his name was a beat-up old suitcase and a broken pair of glasses. I guess his caseworker had given him a $10 guitar, but it wouldn’t stay in tune. It was one of those hot summer days. He tried to play Blues Run The Game for me, but his voice was pretty much shot."

Soon after this, Frank was sitting on a bench in Queens, New York while awaiting a move to Woodstock, when someone shot him in his left eye and consequently blinded him. At first no details were known, but it was later determined that children from the neighborhood were firing a pellet gun indiscriminately at people and Frank happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Abbott then promptly helped him move to Woodstock. During this time, Frank began recording some demos of new songs. Frank’s resurfacing led to the first CD release of his self-titled album. In some pressings, Frank's later songs were included as a bonus disc with the album.

Frank died of pneumonia and cardiac arrest in Great Barrington, Massachusetts on March 3, 1999, at the age of 56.

Well there you go Ian. You set me on a journey to learn about Mr. Frank; who I had never heard of until this evening. I just ordered "Blues Run The Game." What a tragic story regarding being burnt in that terrible fire; as a child; but it started him playing the guitar.

Glad I jumped on to the site; before going to bed.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 03:43:14 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ian Woodward

Again, another fascinating post from you; giving me details and stories I never knew before. You must have a book in you somewhere Ian? Thank you again for your post.


Entered at Fri Jun 28 01:10:06 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Jackson C Frank and others

I've been abroad for a couple of weeks and, skimming through posts herein from that period, was interested to see mention of Jackson C Frank, whom I saw a few times in the 1960s. I didn't own a record player at the time, so it was all live gigs for me, but someone who lived in one of the flats nearby had that album and it was definitely the one that got played - not The Paul Simon Songbook - along with the early Jansch and Renbourne albums.

That Jackson C Frank album was produced by Paul Simon and featured Al Stewart on one track. They all lived together in a flat in London for a period, I believe.

Frank's album was recorded in the same studio as The Paul Simon Songbook. Around September 1964, CBS had bought Oriole Records, with a view to setting up their own operation in the U.K. Prior to that, their records had been distributed by Philips. Oriole had its own recording studio (in London's New Bond Street) but also, as I recall, its own pressing plant. Given the influence of British material on the charts here and in the U.S.A., CBS wanted to set up its own operation here. This it did, releasing and distributing its own recordings as well as material shipped over from the States. For the first few years, Dylan was the mainstay of CBS UK.

The boss of Oriole Records was Morris Levy (not the US musicbiz guy of the same name, incidentally) and the New Bond Street studio was sometimes referred to as Levy's Recording Studio. The session data sheets used for The Paul Simon Songbook sessions were actually Oriole Records session sheets with "Oriole" crossed out. There were three sessions in June and July 1965.

Dylan did not really "come" to Britain in the way that Paul Simon did - nor vice versa. In December 1962, Dylan came to Britain to appear in a BBC TV play, returning to the States in January 1963. He came back in May 1964 for one London concert and again in April/May 1965 for the concert tour that forms part of the Don't Look Back documentary. Though Dylan did play in folk clubs during his first U.K. visit, that was not his purpose. As I understand it, Paul Simon came here to take a break from what was happening in New York (or, rather, what was not happening in his case). He stayed a while and played the folk club circuit. Dylan never played the U.K. folk circuit.

Dylan did record in Levy's Studio and that was in May 1965. He wanted to record with a band and the band he chose was John Mayall's Bluesbreakers which, at the time, included Eric Clapton, who had recently decamped from The Yardbirds. There were a couple of photos in a French pop magazine that seem to be have been taken in Levy's Studios and it sure looks like Eric in the background. It was the first time that Clapton and Dylan met (though whether they actually "met" in the true sense of that word is unclear). The session was not a success. There were some folkies present but Paul Simon has never been mentioned as being there.

I don't know when the Jackson C. Frank album was recorded but I would suggest after The Paul Simon Songbook sessions. The producer on those sessions waa Stanley West, a real old stager, and I suspect that Paul Simon thought himself more suited to the task in respect of Jackson C. Frank. The fact that I have played the Frank album many more times than I have played Simon's Songbook album suggests that he was right - to my ears anyway


Entered at Fri Jun 28 00:34:08 CEST 2013 from (174.54.185.44)

Posted by:

Kevin from Northeast PA

Web: My link

Subject: The Buoys / Timothy

Peter from PA - Good story on Jerry.

After the Buoys split up and before they reunited I saw Jerry and his band locally a bunch of times. Very good shows. Bill Kelly graduated high school with a couple of friends of mine and a group of us that included Bill did some tobaggonning together. After we were out in the cold for a couple of hours we would hit a local pub (even though most of us weren't of age - those were different times..) and Bill would get out his guitar, grab a stool and entertain us. Fun times.

Regarding the song Timothy. I think the story was that Rupert heard the band and was impressed and somehow got them a contract. The record company was not much into promoting them so Rupert thought of writing a song for them. Hit songs not being readily available, Rupert decided to write a song for them that would likely get banned, figuring bad publicity was better than no publicity.

It sorta worked. While some stations banned the song, others played it. When the record company wised up to the lyrics they concocted a story that Timothy was actually a mule and not a person. I think they actually did some edits on the single. What the edits were I can't remember but I seem to remember several different versions of the 45.

Anyway, I think the Buoys had one more semi hit with "Give Up Your Guns" (linked above)

Also, if I remember right, one of the later versions of the band (Dakota I think) opened for Queen. Not sure if it was just in America or a world tour but definitely bigger exposure than when "Timothy" was in the top 20.



Entered at Thu Jun 27 23:24:18 CEST 2013 from (79.160.47.202)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: Updates of this site...

...while not frequent anymore, will be back some time soon. We hope. Thanks for keeping the GB alive, my friends.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 20:54:27 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: and one more thing...thanks to David P

.....find a way to purchase Jason Isbell’s “Live From Alabama” .....far and away my most played music over the last year. Wonderful live album.....every song is strong.

Bill M: I just read that the Headstones have reformed and are covering ABBA's SOS on their new album......a rock snobs stamp of approval of sorts


Entered at Thu Jun 27 19:02:24 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

David P….Funny….and yes indeed – I guess even the great Last Waltz was not completely without fashion crimes….as to Van, the funny bit about that was the behind the scenes story of RR applying some gentle persuasion to Van to wear the Mickey Spillane inspired raincoat that he arrived at the hall in on stage…….you want burst out laughing – think of those leg kicks with a raincoat on!!! Oh My…. The other thought that makes me smile is Richard’s sports coat…….Rick and Robbie look Armani blue blazer chic while Richard’s blazer is definitely a nod to his own individuality.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 18:38:54 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Van the Man

"Don't call what you're wearing an outfit."
--Jason Isbell

Kevin: While his performance was amazing, I can't help but burst out laughing over Van Morrison's attire at TLW.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 18:20:17 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Despite the cape, Rick Wakeman is a phenomenal musician. Most of Yes's fashion statements were garish.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 17:35:06 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Kevin J: And we are eternally grateful that while Garth eventually took up playing a synthesizer, he never took up wearing a cape.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 17:17:18 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Long Hair

I distinctly remember seeing The Last Waltz and being alarmed at how SHORT Levon’s hair was……remember that 1978 was a time when even the unlikeliest of people had long hair….though, it was in its last days of fashion really….by 80/81 short hair was back in to a degree but mid-70’s ( 1976 at time of filming TLW ) Levon’s haircut was not the normal…….a related sidebar…..one of the reasons TLW stands up so well today was the decision to have the front line performers ( Rick & Robbie ) dress in a way that did not betray any era……..only the bell bottoms and to a degree the collars stood out but the overall look of the guys on the stage ( Dylan, Robbie, Rick, Young, Clapton , Diamond ) worked in the 70’s, 80’s. 90’s, 00’s and 10’s…….not a bad run of fitting in………………Contrast that to a bunch of other rock films from the 60’s and 70’s and most have a burst out laughing kind of aesthetic.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 16:51:32 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

PA Peter: A mine? I thought they were stuck in a rowboat, or maybe that's just a mis-association with the group's name, the Buoys.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 12:55:52 CEST 2013 from (76.124.39.182)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: By the Pond (in Southeastern Pa.)

Subject: Timothy/ Dinner Music

Song was about 3 men getting trapped in a mine cave in, and only 2 coming out. "Hungry as hell, no food to eat, and Joe said that he would sell his soul for just a piece of meat... Timothy, Timothy, Joe was looking at you. Timothy, Timothy, God, what did we do?" About 8-10 years ago I was working in a psychiatric facility. We had a fellow come in once every couple of weeks to teach music therapy to the patients. It was Gerry Hludzik, who played bass and sang with The Buoys. He couldn't really site his claim to fame in that crowd (although he played them cuts from a Dakota CD. He was pleased that I remembered the song, which made it to #17 on Billboard Magazine's Top 100 chart in '71. I also remembered the photo of the band poised around a table with the caption "Dinner Music". Nothing too blatant, the photo was subtle. The song sounded soothing and pretty if one didn't listen too closely to the lyric.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 10:49:53 CEST 2013 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Long Hairs in the Early Seventies

I would imagine that having long hair in many parts of the world back in 1971 could have turned into an unpleasant affair for quite a lot of young folk.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 08:58:35 CEST 2013 from (83.4.23.61)

Posted by:

Adi Szlabany

Web: My link

Subject: Great

I greet all guests registered in this guestbook! Best regards


Entered at Thu Jun 27 08:43:55 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

No, never heard of them. Rupert Holmes was big here later with "Escape" but that's all. Curious to find out now!


Entered at Thu Jun 27 05:10:45 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.82)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

PA Kev: was big. I remember it well, though not fondly.


Entered at Thu Jun 27 02:04:08 CEST 2013 from (174.54.185.44)

Posted by:

Kevin from Northeast PA

Subject: The Buoys

Peters mention of "Red Rubber Ball" by the Cyrkle got me thinking of a local (Northeastern Pa.) band called the Buoys. For some reason the unique spellings makes me think of both of these groups whenever one is mentioned.

The Buoys had a top twenty hit with a Rupert Holmes song called "Timothy", about cannibalism. I was living outside of Washington DC at the time (around 1971 or 72) and my older brother came to visit. He heard the song on our local radio and didn't realize how big the song was. He thought it was just a local hit (Northeastern PA).

Peter - do you know this song and did it make any waves across the pond? How about you folks north of the border - was this a hit there like it was in the states? Just curious.

These guys could really harmonize and I have their later LP's when they went by the Jerry Kelly Band and later Dakota.

I caught them a few months ago on our local PBS TV station and they mentioned how popular they were in places like Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

Anyway, just curious if anyone else heard of them.


Entered at Wed Jun 26 20:21:46 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Monkey Business

The Monkees recorded the song "Pleasant Valley Sunday", written by Gerry Goffin and Carole King.


Entered at Wed Jun 26 18:32:11 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Having long hair in Paris then was definitely unpleasant … I remember in 1971. The police used to stare at you, then follow you about, walking just too close for comfort. Deliberately and definitely intimidating.


Entered at Wed Jun 26 18:20:08 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Every Picture tell A Story

Rod Stewart got one of his great songs from being there…… “Paris was a place you could hide away/ if you felt you didn't fit in/ French police wouldn't give me no peace/ They claimed I was a nasty person/ Down along the Left Bank minding my own/ Was knocked down by a human stampede/ Got arrested for inciting a peaceful riot/ when all I wanted was a cup of tea”


Entered at Wed Jun 26 18:07:42 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill M

Well Bill I wish I had ordered it; when you first talked about it. You reminded me today. All that's left anywhere is a $50.00 version on Amazon. I have corresponded with him BTW a couple of times. Really nice guy.


Entered at Wed Jun 26 17:59:03 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bodies in the Seine

Well, yes, but reports had bodies floating right out to sea. They knocked them out and chucked them in. In 1971, three years later, signs still read "CRS = SS" (CRS were the military police) all over the Left Bank, and the police went in twos and threes with sub-machine guns. My friend was in France in 1968. I have told this story before, but with a degree course in French, you had to spend a year teaching as an assistant in France. He was on his way to England, and parked his Citroen 2 CV right by the Sorbonne and caught the train. Then the riots erupted and burning cars were turned into barricades all over the area. He was devastated thinking it the end of his car, but when he went back after the riots, his car was there, pristine among the wreckage. You see, sometimes painting flowers and peace signs on a car is effective.

I was thinking of this the last two Saturdays I was in London. Both had stuff going on … one a demo, the other Trooping the Colour for the Queen, and police with flak jackets and guns were everywhere in the centre. I thought back to Paris 1971 and remember how we said England would never experience the horror of armed police patrolling the streets. But it happened. Not every day nor everywhere, but certainly near demos and royal events.

So, it's not all "progress."


Entered at Wed Jun 26 17:40:01 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

“It was far worse in Paris, where the military police were clubbing protestors and throwing them over bridges into the Seine”

……this line from PV’s post got me thinking about those boat rides on the Seine where the guides in 1968 might well have been saying “Et voilà…..to your right you will notice Phillippe….floating by the boat, head bobbing in the water, slightly bruised….and if he does drown, not to worry, we have thousands more just like him, rich, spoiled and believing Johnny Hallyday is the King of Rock n Roll.”


Entered at Wed Jun 26 16:56:27 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

….I also appreciated that context and now understand the feelings for that version of TWOF…..I hadn’t previously. Almost like hearing the song for the first time.

Financier Marc Rich died today……Serenity may have missed this but there is a Band connection as some might remember Robbie chastising the US government at the Grammy’s by noting that it was a shame that Leonard Peltier had not been pardoned and added “I guess he was not Marc Rich enough!”


Entered at Wed Jun 26 16:22:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Apologies, Rainbow Valley is by Love Affair, I lost "by Love Affair & Valleri by …" from my text.


Entered at Wed Jun 26 16:13:53 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

John D: When your receive your copy of the Simon biography we discussed, "Still Crazy After All These Years", you'll find that it goes into a fair amount of reasonably interesting detail on "Songbook" and other aspects of Paul's days in London.

Peter V: I second sadavid's appreciation of the TWOF context you provided. And like him, I'm wondering about the Monkees song. I don't remember it at all; should I? I'm having trouble coping with a vision of Donovan and his calliope being tipped into the Seine: "Love is hot ... glug, glug, glug ..."


Entered at Wed Jun 26 15:43:45 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: rolling down the road into the valley

Peter V: thanks for pointing out the context - the comparison to 'For What It's Worth' makes the point - but what's 'Rainbow Valley' ??


Entered at Wed Jun 26 15:05:53 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V / Amazon

Peter just made me spend money. I've owned the Paul Simon Songbook on vinyl for years and years. After reading Peter commenting on the product this morning I have ordered the CD version from Amazon.


Entered at Wed Jun 26 09:14:31 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: This wheel shall EXPLODE

So much about music is context and memory. This Wheel’s On Fire by Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger & The Trinity was released in March 1968. The charts of Spring 1968 were not as spectacular as those of Summer 1967, but nevertheless it shared the lists with Jumping Jack Flash by The Rolling Stones, Hurdy Gurdy Man by Donovan, Lazy Sunday by The Small Faces, My Name Is Jack by Manfred Mann, Rainbow Valley by The Monkees. It peaked at number five in June, but often the stuff above it was dire MoR … Des O’Connor, Don Partridge, Englebert Humperdink, so in generational terms, for the student age group, it was one of the two most popular songs of that Spring (with Jumpin’ Jack Flash).

To continue the context, March 1968 saw the Vietnam War demo at the US Embassy which resulted in the police on horses baton charging unarmed protestors and arresting 200 in one of those 1960s orgies of police violence. It was far worse in Paris, where the military police were clubbing protestors and throwing them over bridges into the Seine. By May and June, many British universities were occupied by sit-in protestors. Among all that, This Wheel’s On Fire whirled and swirled. That context is why it was chosen as the theme to “Absolutely Fabulous,” and why in the UK it has the equivalent weight of history as “For What it’s Worth” written about a club curfew in 1966, released in 1967, but with a shift of interpretation by listeners, it became the great political song of the era.

So an objective musical appraisal doesn’t work. It was out and about six months before The Band version. Sit back and watch the Top of The Pops version (linked). It’s a shame about Brian Auger’s shirt, but Julie Driscoll was one of the most stunningly beautiful women of the 60s, and Auger’s impassioned Hammond-thrashing in the solo suits the song.


Entered at Wed Jun 26 07:42:12 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Essentials

On Monday, between buying my essentials: papaya, blueberries and spelt bread in the supermarket, I noticed five double-CD sets, priced at £5 each. They’ve been out for a couple of years. The Essential Bob Dylan, The Essential Leonard Cohen, The Essential Paul Simon, The Essential Simon & Garfunkel and The Essential Neil Diamond. As an inveterate compiler myself, I had to see what they’d chosen, Dylan being particularly hard to put on 2 CDs.

The Dylan splits in two after Forever Young giving 11 years for CD1, forty years for CD2 which is about right. Blind Willie McTell, which wasn’t released till the bootleg sessions, rightly finds a place.

The Essential Simon & Garfunkel has Jackson C. Frank’s Blues Run The Game, harking back to my earlier post, an obscure one hidden on box sets. I was relieved to see the highly underrated Fakin’ It on there, though not Save The Life Of My Child, which I definitely would have included. OK, it sounds so much of its time and overwrought, but it was great when it was released.

All in all these four sets (I didn’t peruse the Neil Diamond) are an incredible collection of seminal music for £20 the lot.


Entered at Wed Jun 26 04:13:08 CEST 2013 from (75.34.62.112)

Posted by:

Adam

For me, "This Wheel's On Fire" will always be defined by The Band's versions on Music From Big Pink and Rock Of Ages. No other arrangement matches Rick's delivery and Garth's genius contributions...


Entered at Wed Jun 26 00:08:12 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Paul Simon Songbook was recorded for CBS in London, rather than for the Columbia parent. CBS UK were protective of their comparatively meagre output.

Paul Simon still misses some of the words of Sounds of Silence and had the album withdrawn in the 70s, as it embarrassed him. Nothing to be ashamed of. It's a fine album and the stripped down solo versions work as well though differently.

Simon was prominent in the UK folk scene, hanging out particularly with Al Stewart and Jackson C. Frank, as well as writing with Bruce Woodley, one of The Seekers.

The Australian band had a hit with Paul Simon's "Someday, One Day" (UK #11), and Woodley and Simon wrote Red Rubber Ball for The Cyrkle.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 23:56:37 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Paul Simon Songbook

It was released by CBS in the UK in August 1965. It was quite common here (and still is secondhand), I had several different friends who owned one and I remember borrowing it in 1966, and using it in the summer of 67 for teaching English to foreign students when I was a student. There was a 45 release of I Am A Rock / Leaves That Are Green in the solo version.

Though Wednesday Morning 3 am predated it in 1964, no one really saw that release and it was reissued in 1966 in the USA, but in the UK was released as an EP only then.

So our perception here would be "Paul Simon Songbook first" because the full LP release of Wednesday Morning 3 am in the UK was 1968. I prefer the Paul Simon Songbook.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 22:53:38 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you Dave H.......A good one....and not surprising.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: After all these years

When they did the Simon and Garfunkel reissues a few years back they included "The Paul Simon Songbook", a post "Wednesday Morning" collection of songs that would mostly end up on the the next two S and G. records that Paul had recorded when he went to England like Dylan had. Back in the day, you only saw this thing once in a blue moon, marked up as a collector's item. Simon may have been hedging his bets, as the folkie first album had tanked. In any case, his devotion to Dylan had become so slavish as be to comic. Girlfriend on the cover, a pitiable attempt at cool liner notes, civil rights songs (too weak to make the cut on the future albums), and a "parody" that would be only slightly better on "Parsley Sage." But, good songs on it too.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 22:24:32 CEST 2013 from (136.167.102.150)

Posted by:

Dave H

Web: My link

A short review/feature on the Beautiful Old from Paste Magazine in the link. Key quote for this board:

“Most of the artists weren’t initially familiar with the songs we sent them,” Marsteller says. “But Garth, we’d mention a song on the phone to him and next thing he’d be off at his piano, tinkering out the melody right there in the middle of a long-distance call.”


Entered at Tue Jun 25 20:46:51 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: TWOF

I love the reverb and fuzz on The Byrds released version … I don't like the cleaner version as much. The Julie Driscoll also distanced the voice. It seems the default for that song to me.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 20:36:42 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Oscar Peterson, Terry Fox and Bob Ezrin are amoung the latest additions to Canada’s Walk of Fame – all deserving of course…………………but read this one and weep all f’ing day…….Allan Thicke is going in/on as well………..….but still The Band remains out………silly people.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 20:32:51 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Hockey's over: now can we pullease have summer? It's been a trying season for the Leafs, having to hang around for months at tee-off, waiting for the rain to end.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 18:23:53 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: R&R Hall of Fame

Is there any cash award that comes with an artist's selection?

Interesting Paul Butterfield article - I'd put him at the top of at least the white players I've heard. I'm personally pretty exhausted with the Blues genre, but I still like to hear Little Walter any time. I saw C Musselwhite a few years ago and found his deal to be very ordinary & dull -


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: This Wheel's On Fire

The album version of the Byrds' TWOF also drenches the vocals with added reverb, whereas the the version one alternate has drier vocals.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 18:02:46 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

We call it "out of town stupid." Crawford was the team's playoff MVP and Kane said so after the game. Just think of the list of goalies Crawford beat. In each series, the smart guys said the Hawks were at a disadvantage at the position.

How often does the President's Trophy winner also take the Cup?

Two Cups in four years is a gift for all the long suffering Hawks fans. Perhaps the most exciting 1:13 in sports history--at least for me.

And Kevin J, I thank my stars for Lemaire's shot. Having died once, I fear not death again.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 17:38:32 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

…..Weird - almost unbelievable bit of trivia that a bunch of guys on the current day Black Hawks in a 30 team league have now won more Stanley Cups than truly great players like Bobby Hull and Stan Mikita did in a 6 team league…….anyhow…..I’m thinking not even the memory of Jacques Lemaire crossing centre ice and winding up could get Pat down this morning…..


Entered at Tue Jun 25 17:11:45 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Watching Chicago win last night was as happy a hockey event for me since Vancouver 2010 and prior to that 2002 SLC and 1993 Patrick Roy led Montreal Canadiens……….and while Corey Crawford’s performance in these play-offs may not be the stuff of all time legend the way Roy or Dryden were years ago……he was superb from the start of the playoffs right to the end and was robbed of the Conn Smythe ( Duncan Keith would have been 2nd on my ballot, Kane 3rd or 4th )…….the playoff MVP is supposed to be for excellence over all four rounds not just the final round……. Congrats to Chicago, Pat can breathe again!

JT: The Jonathon Bernier trade – unheralded now might well prove to be the best trade Toronto has made since Sundin for W. Clark. As a Habs fan, this does not make me happy……I quite liked to see Toronto floundering without a goalie all these years since Belfour. Remember how Tony O emerged after the Habs let him go before he really had a chance to establish himself there…….same thing might happen with Bernier.


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Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: This Wheel's On Fire

My favorite Byrds' version of TWOF is the alternate take that was included as one of the bonus tracks on the 1997 CD reissue of "Dr. Byrds & Mr. Hyde." This take, which was actually the first version they recorded during the sessions, is slightly faster and features a cleaner, rich country tone on Clarence White's stringbender Telecaster. The version included on the original 1969 album had Mr. White's Tele drenched with fuzztone.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Chicago

I'm just so happy to see one of the original "6 Teams" win! They're celebrating in Wayne's World!!!


Entered at Tue Jun 25 12:29:43 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Small Town Talk

Excellent record. This album had its beginnings; while Bobby was still with us. He helped initially with this project. I subscribe to OFFBEAT Magazine and read the review at the beginning of the month.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 08:14:22 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

Subject: Small Town Talk

Just found out about this today.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 08:02:00 CEST 2013 from (90.231.131.88)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Stanley Cup victory a fitting end for a Toronto fan

There are not many of us left, some say. Outside or even inside Toronto. However, for those of us who have been following Leafs since we were kids, we went into mourning after the sudden loss to Boston in the first series of the Stanley Cup this year. Being up 4-1 with 10 minutes or so to go seemed like a sure thing. Alas! And so I did not turn on TV hockey for 2 weeks thereafter, watching for the scores on line. I decided as the series went on that Boston was a sure thing. Chicago was strong and had finesse, but Boston had Lucic and Chara and a few others and Tukka Rask was 'in a zone'. Even in this final series, in the first few games, Chicago could do little against the physical presence of Boston. Then came the sudden 'goalie meltdown' in game 5, a game that was unlike any game that had occurred in this final series. Then came the final game, with Boston leading 2-1 going toward the end of the game and looking (as Leafs did) at a 'sure thing'. Well folks, as any of us watching sports knows, there is no 'sure thing' in sports. Chicago pulled the goalie and with close to 1 minute left, they tie the game. And then, providence for Leafs fans visits the ice as a Chicago goal closes it out. Perhaps Boston did not deserve this fate but don't you love sports? I'll toast the Chicago Black Hawks this evening in southern Sweden.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 05:16:37 CEST 2013 from (75.34.59.60)

Posted by:

Adam

Hawks win the Stanley Cup! A wonderful night for Chicago! Cheers, Pat B...


Entered at Tue Jun 25 02:19:49 CEST 2013 from (71.184.199.161)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: 83 Reunion

30 years ago on June 25, 1983 The Band began their reunion at Joyous Lake, first documented show since the March 78 gig.


Entered at Tue Jun 25 02:17:17 CEST 2013 from (71.184.199.161)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: Songs covered by The Grateful Dead

Interesting list of songs by The Band that the Dead, and various offshoots covered over the years.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 23:37:55 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It's probably the same with Julie Driscoll on TWOF and Manfred Mann on Mighty Quinn … the first one that gets under your skin tends to seem the best one, but The Byrds do You Ain't Goin' Nowhere so well. And Mike d'Abo had a kind of smile or grin is his voice that added to The Mighty Quinn. Mind you, last time I saw The Manfreds, Paul Jones sang it, and did it well. The time before, they were both (d'Abo and Jones) on stage together. Paul Jones has some Dorian Gray Elixir of Youth, looking much the same as nearly fifty years ago. Mike d'Abo, like me, has lost the hirsute part of his hirsute good looks.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: YAGN

I prefer the Byrds' version to the 'main' BT version too, likely for the same reasons as PV, but I might like the Hearn version even better - sounds more sincere for some reason, plus Garth's phenomenal on that track (which appears next to "Clothesline Saga" on the "Celebration" album, making an impressive one-two punch). Still, the insight you get into Dylan as leader and the Hawks as about-to-bloomers that you can pick up from the alt BT version makes that one really special too.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 22:10:56 CEST 2013 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

mike h

Web: My link

Subject: Paul Butterfield doc by his son Gabriel.

Gabriel & NH film maker Thom Pollard just went live w/ an online fundraiser for the Paul Butterfield doc they've been working on. Interviews w/ Jimmy Vivino, Jim Weider & many more.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 21:41:04 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

That's what I thought. I think I'd take The Byrds You Ain't Goin' Nowhere as first choice. It's not that it's better, but I knew and loved it before I heard The Band's BT version.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 20:40:00 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Peter V: I was thinking of just MFBP forward……….having come to The Band in the late 70’s through ROA I tend not to think of The Basement Tapes in the same way as I am sure those do that were around while those almost mythical recordings were being consumed in one form or another……..I do though always turn up Kevin Hearn’s “You Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere” from the Garth Celebration album and was glad to see Bob Dylan open his last Toronto concert with a lovely performance of it. Hearn was sitting close to the stage that evening - interestingly enough.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 20:31:58 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Bobby"Blue" Bland dead at 83

To add to PETER & BILL M's post..RIP, dear Bobby "Blue" Bland. We have your beautiful music to listen to.

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Bobby "Blue" Bland Dead: Legendary Blues Singer Dies at 83 June 24, 2013

Blues singer Bobby "Blue" Bland, known for songs like "Turn on Your Love Light" and "Call on Me," died June 23 at the age of 83

R&B singer Bobby "Blue" Bland, nicknamed the "Sinatra of the Blues," died Sunday, June 23, in Memphis, Tenn.

Rodd Bland, the musician's son, told the Associated Press that his father had passed away due to complications from an ongoing illness. He was surrounded by relatives at the time of his death.

Born and raised in Tennessee, Bland was a founding member of the Beale Streeters, a group that also included blues greats B.B. King and Johnny Ace. He scored his first No. 1 R&B hit with "Further on Up the Road" in 1957, followed by a dozen other hits including "I'll Take Care of You," "Turn on Your Love Light," "Call on Me," and "That's the Way Love Is."

In 1992, Bland was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which described him as "second in stature only to B.B. King as a product of Memphis' Beale Street blues scene." He also received a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 1997.

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Until Next Time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


Entered at Mon Jun 24 20:18:15 CEST 2013 from (64.134.232.188)

Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: rare albums

My sneaky friend has used the web not only to get me "Rick Danko" but also some other rare albums. I requested it due solely to it's obscurity, but Graham Nash's "Earth and Sky" deserves to stay under the rock it crawled under years ago. The worst tendencies of "Whistling Down The Wire" are in brought to sad fruition. On the other hand, Joe Cocker's "Stingray" (lambasted by Rolling Stone on it's release) is..pretty good! His version of "Catfish" bests Bob's, and he covered "The Man In Me" long before it became the Dude's anthem. I like this forgotten, mid period Cocker.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 19:11:07 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin J, are you counting the basement tapes as Band originals? I already chose Julie Driscoll's This Wheel's On Fire. I'll add Mary Margaret O'Hara's Out Of The Blue. I think that's it, if we're not counting the BTs.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 17:54:15 CEST 2013 from (70.50.66.170)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I always loved Robbie Robertson’s description of Richard Manuel…………….”He liked to laugh more than anyone I knew. He wore his gentle soul on his sleeve... and could sing like Bobby Blue Bland. How can ya beat that? Love him and miss him."

The rare club of artists improving on a Band original…..in my opinion, only 3:

*Raine Maida……..”Moon struck One” ….might well be the greatest rescue of any song ever

*Little Feat………”Rag Mama Rag”………..perhaps the greatest accomplishment of them all as this was already almost perfect

*Mary Margaret O’Hara ……”Out Of The Blue”………..Perfect


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: "Ain't Nothing You Can Do"

My favourite Bobby Blue Bland ...


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Damn. I heard his version of "Sitting On A Poor's Man Throne" while walking this morning.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bobby Bland

RIP Bobby "Blue" Bland.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Powederfinger

Link to The Cowboy Junkies performing Powderfinger live in Ireland in 2009. It's a very good live version, though I prefer their original recording. Her voice has deepened, which suits some stuff better, but Powderfinger worked better with a "younger" voice to match the lyric.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 09:21:20 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Cowboy Junkies' version of Clothes Line saga is also great. I have their early version of Powderfinger in my "Desert Island" playlist on iTunes (about fifty on there). It's an example of a cover exceeding the original for me.

Listening to the Cowboy Junkies Clothes Line Saga had me listen to Garth Hudson Presents A Canadian Celebration of The Band again. Mary Margaret O'Hara's version of Out of The Blue, mentioned a couple of days back, is a stunning cover, and the song I've played most from the set.

The one that always puzzled me on there is I Must Love You too Much, perhaps the weakest song Dylan ever wrote. I could understand The Band covering it in the 90s just to get Dylan's name on the album, as they did totally unnecessarily on Jubilation by getting Eric Clapton to phone in a guitar solo, which was no better than Jim Weider would have done it. So I can see the rationale for doing "I Must Love You Too Much" once, but I see no sense in repeating the exercise, though perhaps Hawksley Workman's more vigorous thrashy version makes more sense of it than The Band's version did.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 08:51:21 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: TWOF

I stand corrected - it looks like Bob did do TWOF a fair bit.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 05:18:31 CEST 2013 from (212.98.78.76)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Connection

Yes Bill M: We have to stay connected even during holidays. Off to south Sweden and Lund this morning. A 45 minute train ride. Lund is a a very old university. Should be interesting. Will stay there a few days and go to Malmo and then home to TO.


Entered at Mon Jun 24 02:32:10 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.84)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: Holy smokes. You're holidaying with all your notebooks?

John D's right about the Cowboy Junkies' version of "Clothesline Saga". And Garth's playing is especially interesting on that one, I find.


Entered at Sun Jun 23 22:06:27 CEST 2013 from (212.98.78.76)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Copenhagen

Thanks Kevin. Copenhagen- nice place; good for a few days and away we go. Lots of street musicians doing Dylan and Young and Cohen. Also some violinists and others. Even an accordian. I really like street musicians. Gives you perspective. Many talented people on the planet.


Entered at Sun Jun 23 20:30:31 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.55)

Posted by:

Kevin J

"Angie" the song.............I was stuck at a Shppers Drug Mart yesterday while others were shopping for God knows what........so I drifted over to the magazine stand area where it was confirmed that even at a time when newspapers and CD's are dying a slow death...........magazines are somehow thriving........must have been 1000 different ones.........even Canada's most irritating man - the insufferable megalomaniac contractor Mike Holmes - has two or three of his own.................anyhow, I looked through Rollong Stones 100 greatest songs of The Rolling Stones.............quite something actually as after about 30 the rest is jaw dropping hilarious in imaging just how the writers could even find something to write about.......let's just say never has an exercise so definitively put the Beatles vs Stones comparison in better perspective...................the one bit that really did get my attention was the write-up on "Angie".............I was shocked to learn that it was entirely written by Keith Richards.......music and words........I guess I had always just seen it as a Jagger song and a send out to Bowie's wife as the legend had it.


Entered at Sun Jun 23 19:51:06 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: BEG

This is for you Angie


Entered at Sun Jun 23 19:38:07 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

I only have six or seven copies of MFBP.

On the Cover versions page the three songs that leap out as having been covered most are The Weight, Dixie and Wheel’s On Fire. The recent BBC programme on the most lucrative songs ever showed that number of cover versions was a major factor. Yesterday is The Beatles biggest by far, though I still think they made more money, i.e. more went in their own pockets, out of Imagine or Mull of Kintyre.

Then you get what happened to cover versions, and The Weight had hits from Jackie de Shannon, Supremes / Temptations and Aretha, plus Smith on the “Easy Rider” OST. Dixie had the longest list of covers with Joan Baez as the major seller. A lot of the others seem obscure. TWOT had Julie Driscoll, The Byrds & Siouxsie & The Banshees as major versions, plus Bob Dylan of course.

TV shows are also very good money, especially often-repeated ones. I’d bet it’s one of those three. Narrowing it down would need more info. Rick had to split his with Dylan. I’d guess The Weight had the biggest sales in all versions, but Dixie might have been more per sale.


Entered at Sun Jun 23 19:22:44 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.55)

Posted by:

KevinJ

.........one more thing......at the release of Robbie's first solo album and the massive publicity it generated - really kick starting interest in The Band for a younger generation - remember that Music From Big Pink at that point 1987 had sold just 250,0000 copies ( with rumours that Eric Clapton, David P and Peter V were responsible for 125,000 of that! )


Entered at Sun Jun 23 19:12:51 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.55)

Posted by:

Kevin J

What was the most commercially successful song written by a member of the Band? Just a hunch but you would think that TNTDODD with the Joan Baez cover would have far outpaced TWOF in terms of straight commercial success................Also, remember that "Broken Arrow" was on a Rod Stewart album that sold multi-millions of copies - likely more copies than the entire Band collections put together........Oh, and also the first Robbie Robertson album sold 1 Million copies in Canada alone........much less of a chart topper in the rest of the world but enough to comfortably put "Broken Arrow" in a category of commercial success way above TWOF.

JT: Good to see your reports from the road.


Entered at Sun Jun 23 18:01:41 CEST 2013 from (212.98.78.76)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Circle ablaze

Peter, it was Rod who said he hardly ever performed it and I was responding to that. The Band indeed seemed to ignore it.


Entered at Sun Jun 23 17:31:10 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Not only does Dylan do TWOF, he's done it with me in the audience (Bournemouth 1997) not that I remember it. My point was originally on The Band rarely doing it.


Entered at Sun Jun 23 17:18:13 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Clothes Line Saga

I would agree with you Peter. Great version by The Roche's. I would also recommend; from the Garth Hudson album, his version; along with Toronto's Cowboy Junkies singing.


Entered at Sun Jun 23 17:12:38 CEST 2013 from (212.98.78.76)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: 'This Wheel's On Fire'

Some of the more recent dates for 'This Wheel's On Fire' as performed by Bob Dylan on the Neverending Tour. He seems to like it enough to give it a go often enough.

This Wheel's On Fire Madison, NJ, USA 13-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire New Haven, CT, USA 14-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire Springfield, MA, USA 16-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire Burlington, VT, USA 17-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire Providence, RI, USA 18-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire Portland, ME, USA 19-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire Portland, ME, USA 21-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire Orono, ME, USA 23-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire Toronto, ON, Canada 27-Apr-96 This Wheel's On Fire Poughkeepsie, NY, USA 01-May-96 This Wheel's On Fire Lewisburg, PA, USA 03-May-96 This Wheel's On Fire Richmond, VA, USA 04-May-96 This Wheel's On Fire Buffalo, NY, USA 11-May-96 This Wheel's On Fire London, ON, Canada 12-May-96 This Wheel's On Fire Clarkston, MI, USA 16-May-96 This Wheel's On Fire Salzburg, Austria 09-Jul-96 This Wheel's On Fire Hartford, CT, USA 19-Apr-97 This Wheel's On Fire West Long Branch, NJ, USA 20-Apr-97 This Wheel's On Fire Boalsburg, PA, USA 27-Apr-97 This Wheel's On Fire Muncie, IN, USA 29-Apr-97 This Wheel's On Fire Memphis, TN, USA 02-May-97 This Wheel's On Fire Huntsville, AL, USA 03-May-97 This Wheel's On Fire Lincoln, NH, USA 03-Aug-97 This Wheel's On Fire Lenox, MA, USA 04-Aug-97 This Wheel's On Fire Toronto, ON, Canada 07-Aug-97 This Wheel's On Fire Burgettstown, PA, USA 09-Aug-97 This Wheel's On Fire Wallingford, CT, USA 18-Aug-97 This Wheel's On Fire Cuyahoga Falls, OH, USA 26-Aug-97 This Wheel's On Fire St. Paul, MN, USA 29-Aug-97 This Wheel's On Fire Bournemouth, England, UK 02-Oct-97 This Wheel's On Fire Cardiff, Wales, UK 03-Oct-97 This Wheel's On Fire Mobile, AL, USA 26-Oct-97 This Wheel's On Fire Asheville, NC, USA 01-Nov-97 This Wheel's On Fire Columbus, OH, USA 07-Nov-97 This Wheel's On Fire Dayton, OH, USA 08-Nov-97 This Wheel's On Fire Lisle, IL, USA 11-Nov-97 This Wheel's On Fire San José, CA, USA 14-Nov-97 This Wheel's On Fire Philadelphia, PA, USA 10-Dec-97 This Wheel's On Fire Philadelphia, PA, USA 11-Dec-97 This Wheel's On Fire Los Angeles, CA, USA 16-Dec-97 This Wheel's On Fire New London, CT, USA 14-Jan-98 This Wheel's On Fire Atlantic City, NJ, USA 31-Jan-98 This Wheel's On Fire Toledo, OH, USA 15-Feb-98 This Wheel's On Fire Puerto Alegre, Brazil 07-Apr-98 This Wheel's On Fire George, WA, USA 17-May-98 This Wheel's On Fire Los Angeles, CA, USA 22-May-98 This Wheel's On Fire Leipzig, Germany 02-Jun-98 This Wheel's On Fire Stockholm, Sweden 09-Jun-98 This Wheel's On Fire Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK 19-Jun-98 This Wheel's On Fire Darwin, NT, Australia 28-Aug-98 This Wheel's On Fire Auckland, New Zealand 08-Sep-98 This Wheel's On Fire Champaign, IL, USA 27-Oct-99 This Wheel's On Fire Ithaca, NY, USA 15-Nov-99 This Wheel's On Fire Omaha, NE, USA 04-Apr-00 This Wheel's On Fire Cagliari, Italy 02-Jun-00 This Wheel's On Fire South Kingston, RI, USA 12-Nov-00 This Wheel's On Fire Adelaide, SA, Australia 20-Mar-01 This Wheel's On Fire Liverpool, England, UK 12-Jul-01 This Wheel's On Fire Telluride, CO, USA 20-Aug-01 This Wheel's On Fire Syracuse, NY, USA 08-Aug-03 This Wheel's On Fire Wallingford, CT, USA 17-Aug-03 This Wheel's On Fire New York City, NY, USA 20-Aug-03 This Wheel's On Fire Syracuse, NY, USA 22-Aug-03 This Wheel's On Fire Norfolk, VA, USA 06-Apr-04 This Wheel's On Fire Atlanta, GA, USA 13-Apr-04 This Wheel's On Fire Newcastle, England, UK 22-Jun-04 This Wheel's On Fire Bonn, Germany 29-Jun-04 This Wheel's On Fire Montauban, France 06-Jul-04 This Wheel's On Fire Madrid, Spain 14-Jul-04 This Wheel's On Fire Poughkeepsie, NY, USA 04-Aug-04 This Wheel's On Fire Comstock Park, MI, USA 24-Aug-04 This Wheel's On Fire Lincoln, NE, USA 31-Aug-04 This Wheel's On Fire San Francisco, CA, USA 13-Oct-04 This Wheel's On Fire Manhattan, KS, USA 26-Oct-04 This Wheel's On Fire Oshkosh, WI, USA 02-Nov-04 This Wheel's On Fire Bethlehem, PA, USA 16-Nov-04 This Wheel's On Fire Seattle, WA, USA 08-Mar-05 This Wheel's On Fire Oakland, CA, USA 15-Mar-05 This Wheel's On Fire Los Angeles, CA, USA 22-Mar-05 This Wheel's On Fire Denver, CO, USA 29-Mar-05 This Wheel's On Fire Chicago, IL, USA 05-Apr-05 This Wheel's On Fire Detroit, MI, USA 12-Apr-05 This Wheel's On Fire Newark, NJ, USA 19-Apr-05 This Wheel's On Fire New York City, NY, USA 26-Apr-05 This Wheel's On Fire Greenville, SC, USA 07-Jun-05 This Wheel's On Fire Bowie, MD, USA 14-Jun-05 This Wheel's On Fire Nashville, TN, USA 28-Jun-05 This Wheel's On Fire München (Munich), Germany 08-Nov-05 This Wheel's On Fire Sun City West, AZ, USA 08-Apr-06 This Wheel's On Fire Kansas City, MO, USA 18-Apr-06 This Wheel's On Fire Des Moines, IA, USA 21-Apr-06 This Wheel's On Fire Memphis, TN, USA 25-Apr-06 This Wheel's On Fire Roskilde, Denmark 30-Jun-06 This Wheel's On Fire Denver, CA, USA 24-Oct-06 This Wheel's On Fire Brussels, Belgium 06-Apr-07 This Wheel's On Fire Norfolk, VA, USA 25-Sep-07 This Wheel's On Fire Rosario, Argentina 18-Mar-08 This Wheel's On Fire Zacatecas, Mexico 25-Mar-08 This Wheel's On Fire Canandaigua, NY, USA 19-Aug-08 This Wheel's On Fire Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 26-Aug-08 This Wheel's On Fire Minneapolis,, Minnesota, USA 04-Nov-08 This Wheel's On Fire Montreal, Quebec, Canada 18-Nov-08 This Wheel's On Fire Jönköping, Sweden 27-Mar-09 This Wheel's On Fire Strasbourg, France 21-Apr-09 This Wheel's On Fire South Bend, Indiana, USA 04-Jul-09 This Wheel's On Fire Pawtucket, Rhode Island, USA 21-Jul-09 This Wheel's On Fire Round Rock, TX, USA 04-Aug-09 This Wheel's On Fire Osaka, Japan 16-Mar-10 This Wheel's On Fire Nice, France 22-Jun-10 This Wheel's On Fire Bordeaux, France 29-Jun-10 This Wheel's On Fire Park City, Utah, USA 17-Aug-10 This Wheel's On Fire Oakland, California, USA 24-Aug-10 This Wheel's On Fire Missoula, Montana, USA 31-Aug-10 This Wheel's On Fire Nashville, Tennessee, USA 19-Oct-10 This Wheel's On Fire Akron, Ohio, USA 02-Nov-10 This Wheel's On Fire University Park, Pennsylvania, USA 09-Nov-10 This Wheel's On Fire Poughkeepsie, New York, USA 16-Nov-10 This Wheel's On Fire New York, New York, USA 23-Nov-10 This Wheel's On Fire Wollongong, Australia 23-Apr-11 This Wheel's On Fire Auckland, New Zealand 30-Apr-11 This Wheel's On Fire Bournemouth, England 14-Oct-11 This Wheel's On Fire Carhaix, France 22-Jul-12


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Clothes Line Saga

Link to The Roches' version.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Lo & Behold

Lo & Behold by Coulson, Dean, McGuinness & Flint a great album of covers, and also put Sign On The Cross into the world before most people found a bootleg. They also did I Wanna Be Your lover on that record. Tom McGuiness was from Manfred Mann. And Manfred Mann were great at doing Dylan … which is why they were one of the first bands to get a pick from the Basement Tapes.

One of my favourite BT covers is Suzzy & Maggie Roche's version of Clothes Line saga.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Dylan/Band covers

Peter, still love Coulson, Dean, McGuinniss, Flint versions of Lo & Behold and Don't you tell Henry.


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Posted by:

Peter V

It depends on the deal, but according to ASCAP Robbie wrote the Touchstone Pictures logo music. However tiny the deal, a royalty on that should be good. He also did the Whoopi Goldberg Show cues. I know some of the most successful tunes have been things like TV news or weather intro music.

The Weight and This Wheel's On Fire would be my guess for the most commercially successful in gross receipts, but both were through Dylan's publishing company. Also, The Weight appears on so many cheap compilations (30 Hits of the 60s for £2.99) that I'd guess there was little or no power of control over licensing it, which tends to mean a "weighted" deal in favour of the record company and music publisher.

As anyone with a long history of living on royalties will know, it's rarely your biggest seller that generates the most money. It tends to be early in your career when you're on a poor deal and subsequent exploitation is totally out of your hands. You can sell fewer of a later work on a much better deal and make more money. Levon's lack of success over "The Weight" advert shows they had little say on subsequent use.

Also, Lennon-McCartney failed to get publishing on most of their early catalogue as it went from Michael Jackson to Sony. Who knows, but I'd bet the royalty statement for Band on The Run, Imagine or Mull of Kintyre dwarfs the bottom line on any early Beatles song. Add My Sweet Lord if George Harrison hadn't lost the case over The Chiffons song. I expect Happy Xmas (War Is Over) is way up the list of most lucrative songs too, as it's reissued every year on the annual Christmas compilation CD that soars up the charts here. The songs that stay on there year after year must be huge earners … Slade's Merry Xmas Everyone and Greg Lake's I Believe in Father Christmas have survived every change in track listing too. McCartney's Wonderful Christmastime (which I loathe) has stayed on for years too.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: royalties

What was the most commercially successful song written by a member of the Band? I'd go for The Weight (obvious), maybe Dixie, TWOF or Broken Arrow. Maybe even In A Station as Olivia Newton John once did it. Even Out Of The Blue perhaps.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: TWOF

Peter, you make an interesting point. Thanks to Absolutely Fabulous and various covers, TWOF may have been one of The Band's bigger commercial successes (for Rick at least). It seemed to be a staple in the OQ setlist and they always seemed to pull it off. It was strange that the reformed Band never did it - but they made some strange song choices. I've never thought of this as a "Dylan" song. It doesn't fit his song writing mould - and as far as I'm aware he has hardly ever performed it. Pity as The Basement Tapes version is great.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thinking a little more, Julie Driscoll & Brian Auger were not covering the Band, but covering Bob Dylan & The Band from the Basement Tapes acetate, so would not have heard the MFBP version.

If you go to the BT acetate, I'd also prefer Manfred Mann's Mighty Quinn to the Basement Tapes or to the Self Portrait Isle of Wight version.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rolling down the road …

Absolutely Fabulous … Adrian Edmondson, first known as an actor in “The Young Ones” (the punk), who is Jennifer Saunders’ husband sings This Wheel’s On Fire with Julie Driscoll as the theme to “Absolutely Fabulous.” There was a special in 1996, and they were replaced by Marianne Faithful & P.P. Arnold duetting, which was a fantastic pairing of voices, then in the 2002 Christmas Special, Debbie Harry sang it. When I looked these details up, I saw that on Region 1 DVDs of the show, it’s replaced by an instrumental version for copyright reasons, which is a major shame.

Still Rick Danko would still have been paid, and he mentioned how important the show was to his income. The series was so popular in so many countries, that it means This Wheel’s On Fire is possibly even more widely known than The Weight among Band compositions … I’m talking “World” rather than “North America.” I’ve often mentioned this here, in amazement that the 90s Band didn’t perform it, especially as Levon used it as the title of this book. It’s one where most bands would do it, point out the book title, and say copies will be on sale in the lobby after the show.

I was listening to The Byrds last week on my iTunes Playlist while I was reading the book on “The Notorious Byrd Brothers” and was struck once again by how good their version of TWOF is.

But if I really had to choose, and could only have one version, it would be the original Julie Driscoll with Brian Auger & The Trinity version. That icy voice does something special to the song. I think it’s the only Band original where I’d prefer a cover version.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: JT

Thank you Jerry very much.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Absolutely Fabulous

I never watched much BBC. But earlier this week, I was in a screening room at a hotel in Soho (London) and saw 'Absolutely Fabulous' ('Abfab'), a somewhat successful show (sitcom) about a heavy drinking PR lady and her friend and family. The kick was that the theme song is "This Wheel's On Fire" sung by Julie Driscoll and another artist (remake of the BA and JD and the Trinity hit of the 60s). It made me smile.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Someday Baby

The once is a local expression that roughly corresponds with 'manana', i.e. some indeterminate time in the future, might be five minutes time, might be next year. "Yes dear, I'll dig your flower bed the once."


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: To be accurate... John P. Hammond (Jr)

There are 4 albums prior to '"I Can Tell" (John P. Hammond (Jr))... for the sake of accuracy.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: John Hammond (Jr)

I was scrolling down reading old messages just now and saw John Hammond (Jr) mentioned ("I Can Tell"). I have seen him many times in concert and I want to tell you that he is a treat. He is an essential blues artist and continues to hone his craft. From that album and the 2 before it to today's Grammy winning albums, JHJr is worth the listen. I look forward to his recorded work and catch him on stage whenever I can. Watch his website for tour dates.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Eugene ' Jay' Smith: Bill M

Hi Bill: In Copenhagen now, having been in London UK for 5 days. Thanks for the message. It'll have to be another time. I'm sure it'll be great. Copenhagen is lovely and I just watched the Tivoli fireworks. The squares and the people out in this beautiful weather in the squares make this city what it is. In a word, a wonderful place to be. As for London, we stayed in Soho at Leicester Square. It was terrific! Went to see "Book of Mormon" and ate great food and toured and the works. London is teeming with tourists and people everywhere, out in Picadilly Circus and Leicester and just having a good time. Another couple of days in Copenhagen and then off to Lund to visit with those I love. Don't forget Bruce Cockurn in Victoria at Butchart Gardens on Aug 14. (Bill: I saw a vinyl mono "Tea Party' in Soho store for $150 pounds.) Impressive. John D: I keep my eye out for The Canadian mono 'Blonde on Blonde". Someday, and it'll be for you if that ever shows up. Not optimistic, but you never know.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronnoj

JT: If you're in TO with time on your hands tomorrow afternnon, Eugene 'Jay' Smith is playing 2-5:00 at Village Vinyl, south side of Lakeshore just east of Islington.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: In Bruges and The Guard

PV - I'm a big fan of In Bruges. I never considered its soundtrack but now im on it. For my money it's Liam Clancy's take on A Parting Glass. In an 80's doc film I heard Dylan remark that Liam is the greatest ballad singer alive, then.

I have yet to see The Guard - any opinion on that one? I have a friend from rural Mayo who's dad was in the Guarda; he thought it was a bit corny but still mostly accurate.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Once

Thanks, Joe. Are they named after the Irish movie, Once? I loved the Parting Glass, which made me think the Irish connection. Last night we were listening to The Dubliners version of this very same song … we were seeking their version of "On Raglan Road" used in the Martin McDonagh film "In Bruges." You can only get that version by buying the entire album on download. Physical CD copies of "In Bruges" soundtrack are gong for £80 plus used.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Link to my favourite vocal group these days. You might also want to check out their 'Bohemian Rhapsody/Parting Glass' video. Too much fun.

I did get that 'So Many Roads' album by John Hammond that I was asking about a while back. Noteworthy mostly for Robertson's playing; liner notes credits Mike Bloomfield on piano. Round about the third song you're thinking that they should just let that drummer sang.

'Got a girl named Honey, She spends my money' is hardly the most inspired or original rhyme out there but listen to Dylan singing that line on 'Soon After Midnight'. He just nails it. My earworm of the day.

Yesterday it was 'The crystal chandeliers light up the paintings on your walls; the marble statuettes are standing stately in the halls...'


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Mike H

thanks for the RCO all stars vid - priceless stuff.


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Posted by:

carol stewart

Location: around
Web: My link

Subject: guest

thanks for the finest music. it never gets old, just finer with time!


Entered at Fri Jun 21 23:36:18 CEST 2013 from (166.147.88.21)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Live entertainment and who pays the tax

David P - A new wrinkle (to me at least) in paying live entertainers is the 1099 requirement. Roughly a decade ago the IRS pushed back on band expense write-offs without a corresponding 1099 filed. That caused a whole new negotiation process with fees usually being "grossed-up" to cover the band's tax liability. There were very bad feelings caused if the establishment filed the paperwork and the band didn't know it -


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Posted by:

Kevin J

….though some in the rock n roll field can take things a bit too far………………one of the funniest “extra” bits in “Hail Hail Rock n Roll …..was Taylor Hackford explaining that it got to the point on the shoot with Chuck Berry that Chuck was demanding to be paid up-front before he would agree to even show up to be in a shot in a documentary about himself in which he had already been paid beforehand….re-shots, etc. were all deemed by Chuck to be new performances and damn it – he wanted his money right then!


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: That'll be cash on the barrelhead, son...

As onetime ABB road manager Willie Perkins recounted in his book:

"In those early days it was customary, if not mandatory, to be paid in cash. Generally, a promoter would post a cash deposit of fifty percent of the band's guaranteed fee with the booking agency. The road manager would pick up the balance of the guarantee plus any overage. Bands were and still are paid in several ways. There are flat guarantees of a specific amount, guarantees of a specific amount versus a percentage of the gross receipts (which ever is greater), guarantees of a specific amount plus a percentage of the gross receipts after expenses, or , rarely, no guarantee at all but a huge percentage of receipts after expenses. When dealing with club owners, many of whom were so crooked they could hide behind a corkscrew, I always collected cash in advance before I allowed the band to start the show. I also told them, 'We have a deal with the bank. They don't play rock and roll and we don't take checks.'"


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

brown eyed girl: Thank you for all the Joni earlier this week......…..what a catalogue of songs…stunning really and while her ego and chip on shoulder can be a touch irritating…..I really have come around to appreciating just why they are there……….with at best only a handful of artists that even come close to matching her excellence in this rock n pop field….imagine for a minute the indignity of being constantly referred to as “one of the finest FEMALE singer-songwriters of our time”….rather than just one of the finest songwriters - period end of story………..also, while even bands like the Rolling Stones are now having big challenges filling hockey arenas these days………..one would think that Joni could well repeat the Leonard Cohen ( mind blowing as that is ) achievement of selling out all over the world if she did decide to take her act on the road….Of course she would have to be prepared to meet an audience more than halfway – something that she really has never been prepared to do ( see TLW!! )………..as for chip on shoulder…also remember that the RRHOF made her wait a few years after eligibility for reasons that no one has ever explained ( though some have always suspected our Bob F was on the selection committee in the controversial years in question..)

Norm: Hope that you are floating safely wherever you are.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: The Cubans grabbed the goodies, Sonny grabbed the jack

....related somewhat to David P''s story, the Led Zep boys should say a prayer of remembrance every night to Peter Grant for making them much richer than they would have been.....he negotiated a 90% take on all live Led Zep shows....and punched out any and all that tried to bootleg or get in the way of the direct revenue stream.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Road Goes on Forever

When Twiggs Lyndon was charged with murdering the Buffalo club owner, his friend Willie Perkins was brought in to replace him as road manager for The Allman Brothers Band. Mr. Perkins at the time was a bank auditor at the old line Trust Co. of Georgia in Atlanta, the bank of Coca-Cola millionaires and where the soft drink's secret formula is stored in a vault. His financial expertise came in handy, as band members were basically broke at the time, and Mr. Perkins' "economy with dignity" approach helped save money on touring expenses. Mr. Perkins has written an interesting memoir, "No Saints, No Saviors: My Years with the Allman Brothers Band" (Mercer University Press). His account of wild tales from the road is balanced with business perspective. In discussing the Watkins Glen event with The Band and the Grateful Dead, Mr. Perkins recounts an interesting detail:

"The only flaw was that the crowds overwhelmed any orderly effort to continue selling tickets. Peaceful but massive gate crashing occurred, and the promoters had no choice but to make it a free concert. Even so, enough sales had been made so that the event was a financial success."

"Each band had agreed to receive a flat fee of $117,500.00 under a 'most favored nations' policy of identical fees and perks. Phil Walden recognized immediately that it was appropriate to demand more based on the receipts taken in when ticket sales stopped. He huddled in a car with the promoters and negotiated an additional $75,000.00 for The Allman Brothers Band on the spot. In November, we received another $11,136.00. Apparently, none of the other bands' representatives were as perceptive. Years later, I ran into an attorney for one of them and he was nonplussed but not surprised that Phil Walden had out-negotiated him."


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Music...

PETER: Old I am.. Thanks for the info on "Keep It A Secret". Wish I could find it on youtube.com, then I would remember it...

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BEG: Thought you may want to know the latest on LOU. Good to hear he is coming along better..

06/20/2013

Lou Reed makes first post-transplant appearance..

Lou Reed took aim at U.S. President Barack Obama and the quality of digital music during his first public appearance following a life-saving liver transplant earlier this month.

The Guardian reports that the 71-year-old Velvet Underground founder looked frail during an on-stage interview at the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity in Cannes, France on Thursday (June 20).

Addressing the recent NSA surveillance revelations, Reed said it was "shocking" that Obama would allow such an operation to proceed under his watch. "Obama of all people having that thing going on," he said. "That's our guy who did that. It's very disturbing. A lot of the things [George W.] Bush would have done, Obama has continued. How did that happen?"

He added that it was "beyond belief" that 29-year-old whistleblower Edward Snowden was able to leak the story. "There are so many things in this world that are changing so quickly, everything is an inspiration," he continued. "You could have an album about [Snowden]. Missing snow."

The notoriously grouchy rocker did not mince words when it came to his opinion on digital music, complaining that it "sounds like s***."

"MP3s for God's sake. A really miserable sounding thing, people don't understand what they are missing. It has been reduced to the lowest common denominator," he said. "I understand young people were brought up on downloading and Steve Jobs tried to make it into some kind of business which benefits Apple but you get about a sixteenth of a penny."

On a more positive note, he heaped praise on rapper Kanye West, who just released his sixth studio album Yeezus to widespread acclaim.

"The only guy really doing something interesting is Kanye West," he said. "He's really good whatever you might think of him on other levels."

CYA soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Midnight Riders on the Endless Highway

Ever notice the similarity between "Midnight Rider" by the Allman Brothers Band and The Band's "Endless Highway?" Along with the theme, the opening verses of both songs contain a silver dollar reference. I believe the former, written by Gregg Allman and ABB roadie Kim Payne, came first, appearing on ABB's second album, "Idlewild South", released in September 1970. Both song were performed by the respective groups at Watkins Glen on July 28, 1973.


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Posted by:

mike h

Web: My link

Subject: RCO All-Stars rehearsal footage.

RCO All-Stars rehearsal footage ("Slow Down") from Bearsville Studios.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: See below

Peter V. posted: "... but I would warn that the initiation ceremony is both humiliating and painful." - Dear Peter, was it necessary to mention my hemmorroids in this forum? I'll never return!


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Right Rev Billy S. Hargis

Rock is sin. We pray for you.


Entered at Fri Jun 21 09:25:33 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Keep it a secret

Keep It A Secret was a hit iin 1952, after Indian Love Call, this isn't encyclopedic knowledge on my part, but I have just the one old Decca EP and it is on there. You are too young!


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Slim

Link: An oldie, so the sound isn't too good. Couldn't find the one I wanted. He sure could sing well in falsetto..

CYA soon xoxoxo


Entered at Fri Jun 21 01:41:38 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Slim Whitman dead at 90..

Hi, guys Nice to be here again, and read all your wonderful posts of info and links.They DO make my day whenever I visit..

Great about the "LEVON HELM BLVD." Well deserving for sure.

BEG: YOU are the shining light that makes this GB so bright. with your posts and links.. Lucky girl to meet ROBBIE and SEBASTIAN..Will be looking forward to the Joni Mitchell special..

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Slim was a fave of mine..

Me thinks there is a mistake in this article..Being a big fan of his, I don't remember the song, "Keep It A Secret?". I do remember, "It Is No Secret [What God Can Do]"...Maybe I've forgotten, [it happens to oldies like mau]..

Slim Whitman Dead at 90

Yodeling country singer remembered for his unusual vocal style.

June 19, 2013 3:50 PM ET

Slim Whitman, one of country music's most unusual artists, died today in Orange Park, Florida, of heart failure, Billboard reports. He was 90. Whitman, born Ottis Dewey Whitman, Jr., and his high-flying falsetto and yodeling prowess intrigued fans for decades, helping him to sell millions of records in his career.

Whitman was born in Tampa, Florida, but didn't pursue music professionally until he returned from serving in the Navy during World War II. He kicked off his career with the Variety Rhythm Boys, and was heard by future Elvis Presley manager Tom Parker. With the help of Parker, Whitman landed a record deal with RCA Victor and released his first single in 1948. The singer found his first big success in 1952, landing Top 10 hits with songs like "Indian Love Call" and "Keep It a Secret."

Whitman would score a big hit in the U.K. with his recording of "Rose Marie," taking the top spot on the charts for 11 weeks. But it would be six years until he'd have another charting single, with "The Bells That Broke My Heart" peaking at Number 30 in 1961. His career hit a new stride in 1965 with "More than Yesterday," and Whitman would land 22 singles on the charts through 1974. His track "Something to Remember" rose to Number Six on the charts in 1971.

In 1979, Whitman jumped on a then-new concept with the mail-order TV album. His compilation All My Best, his first mail-order TV album, sold more than 1.5 million copies. Whitman charted another hit in 1980 with "When," and made his first appearance on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show.

His influence continued to resonate decades later, with Michael Jackson, Paul McCartney and George Harrison calling him a favorite. Films like 1996's Mars Attacks! and 2007's Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story have also included Whitman references.

Whitman released his latest album, Twilight on the Trail, in 2010. He is survived by a son and daughter; Alma, his wife of 67 years, died in 2009. Arrangements for Whitman are still pending.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Sweet Judy Blue Eyes

My review of Judy Collins at Wimborne Tivoli this evening is linked. On rock autobiographies, her latest is entitled "Sweet Judy Blue Eyes."


Entered at Thu Jun 20 19:17:47 CEST 2013 from (97.81.222.55)

Posted by:

Jimmy Nelson

Web: My link

Subject: A great, and very funny, song from the Band and Bob Dylan

More from the Across the Great Divide series ...


Entered at Thu Jun 20 17:59:56 CEST 2013 from (184.144.108.24)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Glen Hansard, Cold Specks, Kathleen Edwards, Liam Titcomb, Lizz Wright, Rufus Wainwright and Esperanza Spalding join Joni and Kilauren (Joni's daughter) on stage for "Woodstock".
Last night we were also treated to Herbie Hancock and one of Prince's favourite.....Esperanza Spalding.

Both nights at Joni's Tribute...The Band:
Ambrose Akinmusire...Trumpet
BRIAN BLADE...Drums
Melvin Butler...Saxophone
Jon Cowherd...Piano and Keyboards
Bill Frisell...Guitar
Jeff Haynes...Percussion
Marvin Sewell...Guitar
Christopher Thomas...Bass
Direction by Brian Blade and Jon Cowherd
Produced by Danny Kapilian


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Joni Mitchell plays rare performance at Luminato tribute


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JONI'S WALTZ

Massey Hall performance shows Joni Mitchell is like no other

Last night's performance was taped and will be aired on CANADA DAY!.
Every performer last night made the night magical. So many artists I was exposed to for the first time with their interpretations of Joni's music. It's a night I'll always remember.....
THANK YOU JONI MITCHELL AND THE ARTISTS WHO HONOURED YOU.

Set List
The Fiddle and the Drum – Lizz Wright
Coyote – Glen Hansard
You Turn Me On, I’m A Radio– Kathleen Edwards
If – Liam Titcomb
Black Crow – Cold Specks
Big Yellow Taxi – Edwards
Shades of Scarlet Conquering – Lizz Wright
The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey – Lizz Wright
All I Want – Rufus Wainwright
A Case Of You – Rufus Wainwright
Intermission
The Boho Dance – Glen Hansard
Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire – Kathleen Edwards
Slouching Toward Bethlehem – Rufus Wainwright
Carey – Glen Hansard
Jericho – Lizz Wright
Shadows And Light – Glen Hansard
Free Man in Paris – Rufus Wainwright
This Rain, This Rain – Joni Mitchell
Furry Sings the Blues – Joni Mitchell
Don't Interrupt The Sorrow – Joni Mitchell
Woodstock – Joni Mitchell and all singers


Entered at Thu Jun 20 13:28:16 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Steven Van Zandt / James Gandolfini

Yesterday afternoon, I interviewed Steven Van Zandt; over the phone; from Scotland. We spoke for a half hour. He was perhaps the friendliest and most passionate; about music person I have ever spoken to. He played London earlier in the week. The conversation was about his Broadway meets Rock 'n' Roll play about the Rascals, coming to Toronto in August. We also talked a great deal about being in the E Street Band. Above is a link to he and Gandolfini working together; in The Sopranos.


Entered at Thu Jun 20 11:15:06 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Very sorry to hear about James Gandolfini. I reviewed the Joss Wheedon film "Much Ado About Nothing" before I went to bed (linked), and had written I was mildly surprised they hadn't "done the full Tony Soprano" on the Shakesperean dukes in the film: they didn't, but gangland Dukes are popular interpretations nowadays in modern dress productions. It indicates how much his role has entered the language.

Derik, you can trust the Discount House of Worship. The initiation fee is painless at $9, but I would warn that the initiation ceremony is both humiliating and painful.


Entered at Thu Jun 20 04:18:02 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: James Gandolfini

Died tonight of an apparent heart attack; in Italy. He was only 51.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 23:22:11 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

Right Rev Billy S. Hargis

Location: Del Rio, TX

Subject: The Link Fee

DERIK-

You can put links up for free if you pay a $9.00 initiation fee to The Discount House of Worship, P.O. Box 1, Del Rio, TX, USA.

That's what everybody else on this site has done....my word of honor. Everybody here has redemption, but you gotta pay for it.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 22:45:01 CEST 2013 from (50.101.59.54)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Joni Mitchell performs "This Rain, This Rain," her poem-set-to-music, at Massey Hall, Toronto, Tuesday, June 18.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 22:13:44 CEST 2013 from (2.223.49.44)

Posted by:

Derik

Location: England

Subject: Song inspired by The Band

BLUE TATTOO by THE MOON DOGS was inspired by The BAND. Check out moon dogs in the uk if you would like to take a listen.

Sorry No link ,

(As there is a thousand dollar charge for a link on this site).


Entered at Wed Jun 19 22:01:35 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: R.I.P. Chet Flippo

Music journalist Chet Flippo, best known for his work at Rolling Stone magazine, has passed away. He wrote the liner notes for The Band's 1994 box set "Across The Great Divide."


Entered at Wed Jun 19 21:49:34 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: chiseler chiseled

David P: thanks for passing along that 'amazing tales from the rock and roll road' story.
Obviously, Mr. Aliotta should have just said he was sorry for the inconvenience they were suffering . . . .


Entered at Wed Jun 19 19:24:10 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: You can't make this stuff up...

In April 1970, after playing a gig at a club in Buffalo, NY, the Allman Brothers Band's road manager, Twiggs Lyndon, was involved in a dispute with the club owner. During the ensuing arguement & scuffle, Mr. Lyndon stabbed the man three times fatally with a ten-inch fishing knife and was charged with first degree murder. After 18 months in jail he was found not guilty by reason of temporary insanity by the judge. During the bench trial, without a jury, the defense attorney bolstered this defense by calling bassist Berry Oakley to the stand. During his testimony, the barely coherent Mr. Oakley, who had to be excused several times to go to the bathroom to vomit, responed to these questions:

"Did you take any dope in the last month?"
"Uh-huh."
"In the last week?"
"Oh yeah."
"What about the last hour?"
"You bet."

In closing, the defense successfully argued that being the road manager for the band, during a grueling tour schedule of mostly one-nighters, was enough to drive anyone insane.

While touring with the Dixie Dregs in 1976, Mr. Lyndon, at age 37, was killed in a skydiving accident near Syracuse, NY when his chute failed to open.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 18:26:01 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

This link has everything from the Watkins Glen show that the Band was involved with. You can download or just listen. Be patient--sometimes the tracks take a bit of time to activate.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 17:53:40 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Muscle Shoals Studios

3614 Jackson Highway; in need of funding. Muscle Shoals Studios.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 17:08:59 CEST 2013 from (70.53.47.168)

Posted by:

Kevin J

In the “you can’t make this stuff up category” went to the website “Expecting Rain” this morning and the lead item reads “Bob Dylan Spotted Painting Topless Women in Central Park”……..which allows me to repeat the greatest newspaper headline ever from the New York Post back in the 80’s…….it read simply “Headless Body in Topless Bar” which described how a robber had viciously killed the owner of a strip bar.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 16:56:11 CEST 2013 from (70.53.47.168)

Posted by:

Kevin J

……..so here’s how the money meeting may have gone in the case of the Gregg Allman movie……..producer Biff’s pitch to the Money- man…”Hey, we have this book we want to turn into a movie……looking for 7-10 Million” Money-man: “2 minutes….GO! Biff: :Famous rock star named Gregg Allman”…….Money-man: ‘Not interested”……….Biff: “He once dated a young girl named Savannah……She went on to become a massive star in the porn business”………Money-man: “Keep going”……………..Biff: “Drugs – lots of drugs…….Gerry Garcia even called him a Narc!” ……..Money-man: “Time’s running out”………Biff: ”CHER!!!!!!".........Money-man: “Green Light………make it 20 million”


Entered at Wed Jun 19 16:45:25 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Jambands

A strange term since the Grateful Dead,as I said below were not a jam band,but a band with great songs,like the Allmans who liked to spread out a bit more loosely than the Allmans.An example of a jam band is string cheese incident-I saw them once-they were awful,spending that night noodling without having any song to return to.Now that's a jamband-or should we call these bands no song noodle bands.All jam no songs!


Entered at Wed Jun 19 16:39:12 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Gregg's views

Gregg Allman is one of my favorite singers in one of my favorite bands.But,he is generally speaking,a bit of an idiot.His book is trash and he disses many besides the Dead.His brother Duane loved Garcia and enjoyed a nice relationship with the Dead.BTW,the Allmans jams are rooted deeply in their songs-they don't meander about.The Dead also jam,more meandering rooted in their psychedelic journeys.But,their songs are excellent-try listening to American Beauty or Workingmans Dead-these are high quality songs,musically and lyrically and jams only emerge in live shows.Try reviewing the Dead's songbook and it'll become instantly clear-they jam as part of their songs in concert but they are deeply connected to a whole bunch of excellent songs.The Band is unique.Unique songs and music and no jams.There is no music that can be compared to the originality if The Band.But,of all people Gregg Allman needs to be taken with a grain of salt.His movie should be predictably ridiculous,but I'll always love his music.Try finding Gregg's Anthology which he pulled-some of his finest,most sweet and soulful work.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 15:25:48 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Gregg Allman

In an interview published Monday in the Atlanta Journal Constitution Gregg Allman revealed that his autobiography, "My Cross To Bear", is set to become a movie. He is an executive producer with final say.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 15:14:39 CEST 2013 from (24.114.65.102)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I am not crazy about the guy.....but he is some kind of character and I love what he had to say last night.........from Bown Eyed Girl's link........the inimitable Rufus W as described by the CBC:

Wainwright, by contrast, soaked in the spotlight. He wore a pair of white-rimmed sunglasses out to sing All I Want and a glittering bolo tie for a stunning version of 1991's Slouching Toward Bethlehem (from Night Ride Home) that he said he was "trying to turn into a Scottish folk song." And while most performers only uttered a few words of appreciation, Wainwright related his appreciation of Mitchell back to his mother, the late folk star Kate McGarrigle. "My mother was a great songwriter ... but also a very human woman," he said. "And to be honest, she was just a little jealous of Joni Mitchell. So we didn't have a lot of her at the house."

He also apparantly did a fine performance of "A Case of You"


Entered at Wed Jun 19 14:15:01 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.6)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and a little taste of what's to happen tonight at JONI MITCHELL'S BIRTHDAY TRIBUTE (can't wait for better videos)....Wow....She sang three songs last night. She was only supposed to recite her poetry but she's singing now! I'm so glad that I'll be there to witness and feeeeel all the love we have for her. That moment in TLW when The Band are performing with Joni....especially the first time we see her....and Neil Young is performing my late Ma's favourite.....HELPLESS......I can't even describe how powerful a moment in time it is for us Canadians.....:-D Yeah.....We need to have a show at Massey Hall with Joni, Robbie, Garth and Neil Young right up there on stage together again! I've seen Levon and Garth with The Hawk on stage at Massey Hall....It's time for Robbie and Garth up there one last time. Well....I can't see why it can't happen.......Daniel Lanois too! A CANADIAN WALTZ!!


Entered at Wed Jun 19 13:48:10 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.6)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

SEBASTIAN...Thanks! I guess I will be meeting you and your dad at Indigo Bookstore for the signing. I've been there every time Robbie was in town as well as at Canadian Music Week. Let Robbie know that when I taught vocal music that his poster as well as a poster of the Band were up in my classroom. Posters were shrink wrapped....I also played some parts of TLW and Robbie's solo work for music appreciation. I exposed them to all genres of music. I also had a signed Garland Jeffreys poster (gift from Crabby), and a huge Bob Marley poster up as well.

Tonight I will be at Joni Mitchell's Tribute as her 70th birthday is approaching....SEBASTIAN......How about the same happens for Robbie?! You can make it happen.....Book Massey Hall for Robbie's approaching 70th birthday to honour him in his hometown.....Perfect time to ask GARTH to be a part of this celebration with Blackie and The Rodeo Kings (probably the best tribute to The Band and RICK DANKO was by these musicians) to be back up? Also ask the musicians on Garth's Celebration of The Band CD to join in? Let's get this party started!!!!!! We can call it ROBBIE'S WALTZ!

MAUD HUDSON...The same tribute should also be for GARTH as his birthday is approaching as well.....and JOSEPH ARTHUR could be a special guest....:-D

Joni Mitchell plays rare performance at Luminato tribute

Massey Hall concert honours iconic Canadian folk singer ahead of 70th
birthday


Entered at Wed Jun 19 13:18:52 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Watkins Glen

That one passed me my, thanks … though I have vague recall of Rainin' In My Heart being there, so maybe I just forgot. It's more like the GD with Rick sitting in then.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 09:31:47 CEST 2013 from (99.140.166.28)

Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Watkins Glen jam

Peter, a few years back a complete, full audience source of Watkins Glens surfaced. There have been different tapes over the years, and this one is the best sounding, most complete version to date!

This source included the full "encore jam" with members of the three headliners. The Band participation was minimal: Rick, of course, represented the guys in these informal, loose, jam atmospheres (just as he had in Festival Express, presumably the only Band member to ride the train). Here are my notes for the Watkins Glen encore jams:

Disc 4 (Encore Jam, July 28)

01. A Change Is Gonna Come (Rick Danko)

02. Raining In My Heart (Rick Danko)

03. Five Long Years (Richard Manuel)

04. Da Di De Day (Rick Danko)

05. Not Fade Away (Grateful Dead)

06. Warm And Tender Love (Rick Danko & Jerry Garcia)

07. Around And Around (Grateful Dead)

08. Mountain Jam (Grateful Dead & Allman Brothers)

09. Johnny B. Goode (Grateful Dead & Allman Brothers)

The Grateful Dead

Jerry Garcia - guitar, vocals (tracks 3-9)

Bob Weir - guitar, vocals (tracks 4-9)

Keith Godchaux - piano, keyboards (all tracks)

Phil Lesh - bass (tracks 3-9)

Bill Kreutzmann - drums

The Band

Rick Danko - guitar, vocals (tracks 1-6)

Richard Manuel - piano, vocals (track 3)

The Allman Brothers Band

Gregg Allman - organ (tracks 3-9)

Dickey Betts - guitar (tracks 8 & 9)


Entered at Wed Jun 19 08:47:24 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Jammin'

Link to Watkins Glen article by Pat B, one of the most interesting things in the library. Many bands have a warm up that they call a "jam" but as it tends to follow a pre-established riff pattern and melody with solos, it's more like "Untitled instrumental." See Watkins Glen "Jam".

There is a jam with all three bands that was labelled "Watkins Glen rehearsal" or "Watkins Glen Soundcheck," though on the TAPE ARCHIVE on the site it's labelled as "All three bands played in the encores." Pat! Another bit of research. Rehearsal or encores? This comprises:

Around & Around

Mountain Jam

Johnny B. Goode

Not Fade Away

Mountain Jam

Let Me Wrap You In My Arms

It's labelled as sound "VG" which means it's a different copy than the tape I heard which I'd label as sound quality "FA" the second letter standing for "awful." I was discussing the Chuck Berry song most likely to be chosen to jam on, and my friends agreed it was Johnny B. Goode, at least in Britain.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 06:56:20 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Brown Eyed Girl

My dad and I will be doing a signing at Indigo in Toronto in the fall.


Entered at Wed Jun 19 04:47:07 CEST 2013 from (108.199.117.100)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Jam Bands

Kevin J., Interesting distinctions between the 3 groups that appeared at Watkins Glen, and surely must have partaken in some jamming at some point. Let me consult my trusty CD of Live at Watkins Glen for reference. Whoopsie....seems to be more of a bonus tracks sort of disc.

Anyroad....
Grateful Dead: "A jam band"
Allman Brothers: ""A band that jams"
The Band: "We don't jam"


Entered at Wed Jun 19 03:08:45 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe e j

Web: My link

Subject: Gourds

Link to Gourds cover of R/L Thompson classic.

Still taking credit for introducing GB to the Gourds w 'Gin & Juice'.



Entered at Wed Jun 19 02:47:33 CEST 2013 from (108.199.117.100)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Ice Ice Baby

I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out.
Just sayin'........


Entered at Tue Jun 18 22:33:57 CEST 2013 from (70.53.47.168)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Pat….Indeed and I am tired of it. The Bruins mugged their way to a Cup two years ago and the people running the league just shrug and allow it. The disturbing part is the NHL, like most pro leagues, is copycat and so this will just continue and creativity disappears. I really wanted to see a Pittsburgh-Chicago final where I am sure we would have been treated to great hockey……..anyhow, as you point out hard to win if the few penalties that are called do not result in goals. Still hoping.

From a recent Gregg Allman interview with Melissa Ruggieri: “The Brothers are not a jam band – we’re a band that jams. I’ve heard that damn expression so many times. It’s b.s. There has to be some semblance of order, otherwise you’ll sound like the Grateful Dead.”


Entered at Tue Jun 18 21:50:16 CEST 2013 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Loved the Neil Young one. The Gregg Allman was okay but nothing special. I just finished the Howard Kaylan one "Shell Shocked" and enjoyed that one a lot. A lot of fluff but plenty of info. Overall a fun read


Entered at Tue Jun 18 20:26:00 CEST 2013 from (83.249.143.62)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: "Dead" gbers

Thanks Brown Eyed Girl and Bill M and Kevin J. for response.

Beside Empty Now some other immortal gbers will definitely go to rock history like the Dutches NORBERT who saved gb when it was in danger and RAGTIME - the classical music virtuos. Furthermore my compatriot KALERVO... Hyvää juhannusta!


Entered at Tue Jun 18 19:18:08 CEST 2013 from (69.158.84.185)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

NorthWestcoaster....Great to "see" you again. Besides JT....You're Dylan's biggest fan in the world. I was also until just before "Mississippi".

The Weight: When a Song Becomes an Anthem

I'm in the middle of Carole Pope's autobiography....Very creative community between our comedians and more alternative musicians. So Bill M....What I really want to know is MF still married to the go-go dancer? And....Dusty Springfield and Carole shacked up right in my hood and I didn't even know it! ;-D

Also, reading a bio on Amy Winehouse. I didn't know that the song Melanie Martinez sang on The Voice "Too Close" was by her last partner...Alex Clare...and I still haven't finished Clinton Heylin's book on Van. I also want to finally read.....A memoir by Fidel Castro on CHE.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 18:58:37 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Kevin J, the Bruins commit penalties constantly and dare the refs to call them. That said, the Hawks power play is worse than my club league team in 1968.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 18:51:45 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

The Led Zep bio--"When Giants Walked the Earth"--is must reading.

I imagine a RR autobiography will cause seismic shifts among a certain portion of Bandom, especially if he explains what his concept of songwriting is. It will also be interesting to see if this journal he kept really exists and becomes a reference source.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 18:51:18 CEST 2013 from (129.98.207.164)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: More Celebration &

Thanks Kevin-enjoyed your review.I'm on my second listen & loving every minute.Thanks BEG-loved the videos.&,interesting how noone has yet commented on the Rick,Richard,Paul CD.Perhaps the topic was beaten to death in past GB discussions.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 18:23:11 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Biographies

Funny, some of the best rock autobiographies are unexpected. Tommy James' "Me, The Mob & Music" is the one I'm half way through. Great stuff on Roulette and Morris Levy.

Also, I picked up the Status Quo one in a charity shop for £1. I had no interest in the band, but they tell their story very well indeed. I bought it for record label stories and information, intending to skim through for stuff on the Pye and Vertigo labels, and ended up reading it all. They have a clever format: Frances Rossi and Rick Parfitt take alternate chapters, and cover the same periods from their different viewpoints. It works.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 18:21:03 CEST 2013 from (83.249.143.62)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Empty Now

Of course, I made my EMPTY NOW pilgrimage complete by visiting the grave of ALBERT CAMUS (the great son and Nobel Prize winner born in Constance, Algeria) and 'Les Saintes Maries De La Mer' where Dylan wrote "Sarah". Empty Now used to refer to this song often. COUNTRY JOE McDONALDS's song "Air Algiers" must already be well-known in a forum with this level of dignity.

On a serious side: after the battle of Harmageddon there are still a few people left, we Finns and Algerians.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 18:19:14 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.84)

Posted by:

Bill M

NWC: Good of you to think of us, and Empty. I hope he comes back eventually, as he always did. And what was the song?

Kevin J: I almost posted a link showing MMO'H fronting Songship in the '70s. Same guitarist as on "Miss America", Rusty McCarthy from the Soo.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 18:16:17 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Bill M: I don't think there are any song variations for the UK "Self Portrait", just differences in the labels and outer sleeves.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 17:50:23 CEST 2013 from (70.53.47.168)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M and Brown eyed Girl: Thank you!….Thank you!…….a great way to start the day seeing Mary Margaret O’Hara songs linked on this GB. What a talent.

Bonus Tracks: Over 90% of the time – a total waste of time. I am actually at the point where I detest the additions – as they serve more as an irritation than a pleasure.

Spell-Caster…..come on back!……The Hawks need you. Just asking……Is it too late for the “new NHL” to start calling hooking and holding again?

RR’s biography: Announced on his Facebook page that it will be published Fall 2014. Mini-tour with Garth, Mary Margaret O’Hara and a few others would be wonderful. Hoping Adam can get an interview with RR to coincide with this as well....at least someone might ask guitar questions!

NWC: Your list of greatest songs ( or song ) still makes me laugh.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 17:40:19 CEST 2013 from (83.249.143.62)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: The greatest gber ever

I sat in Marseille Aeroport among Algerians heading to Empty's hometown Constance and remembered this gb.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 16:46:55 CEST 2013 from (99.141.20.127)

Posted by:

Adam

John D - "A Canadian Celebration of The Band" was re-released in 2011, the tracklist split in half and issued on "Vol. 1 & Vol. 2" discs. Million Dollar Bash (by Steve Leckie/Thin Buckle) is on "Vol. 1", Whispering Pines (by Doug Paislet) is on "Vol. 2".

I was not aware of these bonus tracks, until Garth & Maud told me about them awhile back. These were basically just individual titles reissued for those who want the bonus tracks.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 15:35:36 CEST 2013 from (69.158.84.185)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you Bill. I really like.....MARY MARGARET O´HARA Help me lift you up (lyrics included).


Entered at Tue Jun 18 15:26:27 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: another Mary Margaret song ...

... but this time from her one and only album - from 1988.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 15:09:45 CEST 2013 from (69.158.84.185)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Joe Cocker - Out of the Blue (1994)

SERENITY...Your beauty radiates on these pages as you know how to see someone else's with warts and all....Thank you. :-D


Entered at Tue Jun 18 15:05:35 CEST 2013 from (72.224.51.211)

Posted by:

JoeFrey

Location: Albany, NY

Subject: The Band SACD

Mobile Fidelity is issuing SACD and vinyl 180g LP versions of The Band. No release date given but based on past performance, I expect we will not see this until the fall. Now let's see, this will make how many versions of this great album that I will have purchased?? Joe


Entered at Tue Jun 18 15:04:00 CEST 2013 from (69.158.84.185)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Mary Margaret O'Hara - Out of the Blue


Entered at Tue Jun 18 14:59:51 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Adam

Adam, do you have to buy both volumes; in order to get the two bonus tracks and are all the other tracks the same on each volume? Also who does the bonus numbers. I bought the original; when it was first released and of course there are no bonus tracks.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 14:45:44 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Adam, Jed and Kevin J: Good to see nice things being said again about Garth's "Canadian Celebration" project. I agree that Mary Margaret O'Hara takes "Out Of The Blues" to places undreamed of, partly via a Streetcar Names Desire (the little bit of Blanche and Stanley posturing in the "He knows, he knows ..." lines). My other favouring is the Road Hammers' version of "Yazoo Street Scandal".

Sadavid, and also any Remains fans out there, may appreciate the link to the Checkerlads 'big' song, "Shake Yourself Down" from '66. The Road Hammers' drummer, Corbett Frasz, is the son of the Checkerlads drummer.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 11:54:58 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Shangri-La

I've seen a few articles (probably from the same source) that say Bob Dylan and The Band set up Shangri-La together. I always thought it was Rob Fraboni and The Band's project.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 02:18:11 CEST 2013 from (99.141.20.127)

Posted by:

Adam

Garth's "Canadian Celebration" album is amazing, and still in constant rotation here. There are two bonus tracks for the album - "Million Dollar Bash" and "Whispering Pines" - available as re-released Vol. 1 & 2 titles of the album.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 01:50:29 CEST 2013 from (24.114.65.102)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Jed......below is a post I dd on Garth's celebration album in January 2011......re-reading it,the only change I would make is "Out Of The Blue" as it just continues to elevate........truly one of the best covers of a Band song ever.....perhaps the best.

-Garth Hudson's celebration of the Band cd is brilliant..........while latest offerings from Kings of Leon. Jeff Beck and Townes Earle all ranked highly with me this year........The Garth cd is so good on so many levels that it strikes me as almost criminal that it has not received the credit it deserves...........think about the majority of the "Tribute" records put out over the last 20 years....at first they were a treat because it was just nice to hear superstar acts doing underappreciated artists.....but they quickly became predictable and it was rare to find a great cover......the horrific Kinks cd is a good example of how sloppy and pathetic many of these things have become ( see Bon Jovi and "Celluloid Heroes" for 7 minutes of Hell in case any is needed ) ................Enter Garth with the Band idea and just think about how this whole thing would have gone with just about anybody else.in charge.......They would have ticked off the 7 or 8 signature songs and then offered them up to the biggest of the stars assembled..............What we would have been left with is an album full of lame attempts to re-create masterpieces......an example of which is the only misfire on the album where Blue Rodeo take on King Harvest and come up well short..........a few observations on the album:

- The song selection and track order is exquisite............the more I played this the more I kept thinking about what kind of contributions Garth must have made to the Band ( far besides the great playing we all have appreciated for years ) that went unnoticed.

- Danny Brooks take on Forbidden Fruit is great and really sets the stage perfectly for the album.................Mary Margret O'Hara interpretation of "Out of the Blue" - this one took a few listens to get by the loungey feel and absence of guts that Robbie's best ever vocal conveyed but by the 10th spin or so I was completely won over...it just gets better and better in fact..........Neil Young - an astonishing take on "This Wheels on Fire" - takes a good song and makes it great ( so good that I simply would not have beloved it possible to turn this song out in the way that he and The Sadies did ) .........Suzie McNeil's blistering version of 'Ain't Got No Home" is the cut that completely establishes the brilliance of this album and the genius of Garth Hudson........who else would have chosen this song to go on a tribute record and to put a 200 mph version of it at the 5 spot on the album is inspired beyond belief....a great take that floors the Band version......................another gem is Kevin Hearn's take on :"You ain't going Nowhere" .......The Sadies do a wonderful version of "The Shape I'm In"..............the toughest assignment may have been given to Raine Maida to do "The Moon Struck One" ( let's just say Neil Young, Bruce Cockburn and Blue Rodeo were likely given their choice of material and Raine Maida was not ) anyhow.......he takes the song to heights never imagined possible and for guitar nuts amongst us throws in the only Robbie style guitar on the entire record.....a transcendent take..................Interesting sidebar: I purchased 5 copies and gave them out as Christmas gifts to some family and friends.......in all cases the reaction back was extremely favourable - with "Out of the Blue" mentioned by all and Neil Young and Kevin Hearn - also cited


Entered at Tue Jun 18 00:29:11 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Great post, Jed.


Entered at Tue Jun 18 00:05:46 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: 2 Musical Gifts

Finally picked up 2 CDs I've wanted for awhile.Garth's Canadian Celebration of The Band,which I'm listening to now-It knocks my socks off.Cant wait for the wife to come home-I know she'll really dig it.The fact that its Garth's favorite Band songs is tremendous and I love the ones he's selected.The production is steller &,as expected,Garth's playing is the best.The performances,and many of the performers I've never or rarely heard,are first rate,creative.These are not imitations or covers,they are individual interpretations of the essence of these songs.The artists seem to go inside each song pulling out that essence-with Garth laying and maintaining the musical foundation.Magnificent,and too many great performances to pick my favorites,and oh so many. The 2nd cd,Rick,Richard,and Butterfield at the Lone Star was a different and difficult experience.We attended the shows over the years with varied Band members at the Lone Star,including hearing and seeing the music from this cd.The sound is far from ideal,but it captures the music and intent.Some of the music was strong,beautiful and evocative of all those 80's shows we saw over the years.But there was a sadness,a disorganization,some may say it was loose.Rick sang with great inner beauty particularly on Unfaithful Servant,and Richard's singing and keyboard work were excellent.Paul had some very good harp playing and hot vocals going albeit inconsistently.I guess it captured a time and state of mind and being that had some good things going but some bad realities as well.But,what I recall and still hear,is that Rick and Richard still had their gifts,their youth and their beautifully sweet personalities as seen and heard in their music.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 23:49:00 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Some photos I linked a year ago.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 22:51:24 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: "Til We Meet Again"

I don't yet have the Olds album, but I just noticed in Peter V's review that the closing song is "Til We Meet Again". I'm not saying that Garth wouldn't have known the song otherwise, or that he got to choose what to do on the Olds album, but it was for decades Don Messer's theme song, sung by Marg Osbourne and Charlie Chamberlain at the closing of every episode of "Don Messer's Jubilee" on CBC radio then TV. In Bob Mersereau's book on Canadian albums, Garth goes on at some length about the influence of CBC variety shows on himself and the others growing up.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 22:36:44 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: David P's note reminds me that at a garage sale last week, just after you'd mentioned it, I picked up an English pressing of Dylan's "I Want You" 45 with "Tom Thumb's Blues" recorded live in Liverpool, rather than Liverpool, England. Also got the UK "Self Portrait" at the same time; are there any noteworthy differences between that and the NA version? Oh yes, also "The Jam", parts 1 and 2, by Bobby Gregg and Friends on the Cotton label.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 22:08:35 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Different Versions: When That Foghorn/Harmonica Blows

Several of the songs on Van Morrison's "Moondance" album were remixed. The original LP pressing included a version of "Into the Mystic" that featured a tambourine and a "foghorn" sound (organ with two saxes with a tremelo effect) prominent in the mix. Most later versions of the LP and CD versions used an alternate mix, sans tambourine and the foghorn muted. The 2008 Rhino remastered LP version included the original version.

Another example is the first U.S. & Canadian stereo LP pressing of Dylan's "Highway 61 Revisited", which included a version of "From a Buick 6" with a harmonica intro. Later LP, as well as CD versions, included a different version without the harmonica at the beginning.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 20:57:07 CEST 2013 from (70.53.47.168)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Reason To Cry!

...just the thought of crazed-empty-goofball reality tv nothings walking in Rick D's footsteps makes me wanna.......oh, let's pray no one from the Kardashian gang was allowed near that property! Wonder if that wallpaper is still up?


Entered at Mon Jun 17 19:07:22 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Yeezus Morphing at Shangri-La

Interesting that rapper Kanye West worked on his new album "Yeezus" at Shangri-La studios in Malibu. As Jon Caramancia described the scene in yesterday's New York Times article, "Behind Kanye's Mask":

"The original studios were built under the supervision of Bob Dylan and the Band in the 1970s -- some of "The Last Waltz" was filmed there -- and the property was bought in 2011 by the producer Rick Rubin, the man whose brain Mr. West had come here to pick. Together they sandpapered off the album's rough edges, rerecording vocals and sometimes writing entire new verses. Even as the deadline loomed, Mr. West made room for an appearance at the baby shower of his girlfriend, Kim Kardashian, who's expecting their first child. As the days passed, the songs noticeably morphed, becoming more skeletal and ferocious."

Funny, that when the Rolling Stones covered "Under the Boardwalk", the bad boys of rock chose to sing the bowdlerized version of the refrain line.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 18:25:18 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Under The Boardwalk

I guessed that as the "fallng in love" was the Bowdlerized version it was probably done second. My friend said the stereo LP version jars every time … the phrasing on other bits of lyric is different too. It just shows it's what we know and love with music rather than intrinsic quality … I prefer the LP take. Cross reference is to the Capitol stereo versions of earlier Beatles albums, which no unbiased new listener would prefer to the mono, but it's what you remember at a time when this music was important to you.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 18:08:12 CEST 2013 from (68.185.20.94)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Frank Sinatra on George Jones

"He's the 2nd best singer around now."


Entered at Mon Jun 17 18:01:53 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Under the Boardwalk

What I recall reading was that they originally recorded the song with the "making love" lyrics in the later refrain of the song. Reportedly someone with Atlantic objected, apparently considering it too risque for the sensibilities of white teenagers at the time. The Drifters then re-recorded the vocal tracks later that day, to overdub "falling in love" in place of "making love." This censored version was then mixed to mono and used for the original 45 single release. However, the mono mix master was later destroyed. The only remaining master tape is the stereo mix with the original "making love" lyric.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 17:19:47 CEST 2013 from (70.53.47.168)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I was at HMV Fairview mall in Toronto on Saturday and was surprised to see a fairly healthy collection of Band cd’s………what caught my eye was a ‘Best of The Band – Part II”…….Remedy, Atlantic City, Blind Willie, etc. Also some other compilation that I had not seen before from the original 5…………….and note to Robbie………every rocker that has ever lived has now released a biography! Mind blowing…….perhaps waiting a few years would be advised.

JQ: Thank you for that quote from L. Cohen on George Jones…….perfectly said and I agree completely……Along with Marvin Gaye, the best I have ever heard.


Entered at Mon Jun 17 16:18:22 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: cloning the Greatest Hits

Peter V: not sure if this relates to your Drifters discovery . . . "it turns out that many oldies hits have been re-recorded by the original artists in recent years, and in most cases for a simple reason: royalties."


Entered at Sun Jun 16 22:04:41 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: HAPPY FATHER'S DAY

WOW!! Hi guys!! So nice to be back here again. Sure have a lot of reading to do.. Thanx to all for the great posts and links..

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BEG:You amaze me beyond words. Your posts, links,etc. are always sooo interesting..NEVER change. You are the best ever, and we all love you for all that you do to keep us informed...LUVYA xoxo

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NORM: Have fun at the wedding..

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Some sad news:

Mumford & Sons Bassist Rushed to Hospital for Emergency Brain Surgery

June 11, 2013 by Dan Clarendon

Ted Dwane on Instagram

Photo:Ted Dwane of Mumford & Sons .

Update: It looks like Carey Mulligan and Marcus Mumford are at the hospital waiting to hear news about Ted Dwane's surgery. Our fingers are crossed!

Original Story, 12:55 p.m. EST:

Mumford & Sons bassist Ted Dwane is in the hospital today, June 11, for an emergency surgery after doctors discovered a blood clot in his brain.

As a statement from the band on its official website reports, Ted was taken to a hospital yesterday, June 10, after feeling unwell for a few days. A scan revealed a clot on the surface of his brain which required an immediate operation.

The band announced, with sadness, that it would be postponing three shows this week in Dallas, Texas; The Woodlands, Texas; and New Orleans, La. but promise that all tickets would be honored at the rescheduled dates. They also say that they have no plans to change any more tour dates.

Ted — who also plays drums and guitar — has been with the British band since its formation in 2007. After hit albums Sigh No More and Babel, Mumford & Sons has reaped multiple Grammy Awards helped lead the recent revival of the folk-rock genre.

Here's wishing Ted a speedy recovery and many more years of success with the band.

Source: Mumford & Sons' official website

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE



Entered at Sun Jun 16 19:04:15 CEST 2013 from (86.162.108.246)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Norbert's post

I don't think that post is from Norbert


Entered at Sun Jun 16 15:26:15 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.182)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Paul Simon - Father And Daughter


Entered at Sun Jun 16 15:21:18 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.182)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For all the Dads here... :-D

Keith Urban - Song for dad
lyrics included


Entered at Sun Jun 16 14:12:08 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Back to mono at 45 rpm

A friend asked me if I could put a single on CD for him the other day because he couldn't find a copy. It was "Under The Boardwalk" by The Drifters. I said, 'That's easy. I've got it on half a dozen compilations.'

'You haven't,'he told me, 'You've got the LP version, which has a "we'll be making love" replacing one of the "we'll be falling in love" lines.' There's no "making love" on the single.

I said they'd probably cut it in, but he said no, the whole record sounds different. A bit of research and he's quite right. The original mono 45 is not just a different edit, it's a different recording of the song, and yes, it does sound different.

So 45s still have a purpose.


Entered at Sun Jun 16 00:13:28 CEST 2013 from (88.171.122.91)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

It's a pretty diverse and varied website so I like.


Entered at Sat Jun 15 14:49:00 CEST 2013 from (184.144.111.202)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garland Jeffreys & Larry Campbell @ Brooklyn Recording 5.29.13

Bookstores in Toronto...Really miss some of our independent stores like Edwards, David Mirvish Books on Art, Britnall's, The Cellar. In those days my money was spent on books and music. Now I only occasionally go to Indigo Bookstore (mostly when students give me gift cards). BMV in three locations is my store now. When in NYC I always go to The Strand. Recently I found three books to add to my collection of one NY writer. The only writers I have all of their books would be Simone De Beauvoir, Jay McInerny, and Fernanda Eberstadt. For children's books....Robin Muller.


Entered at Sat Jun 15 03:16:39 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Leonard Cohen on George Jones

"I like country music but I love George Jones. His is the best voice ever. He's working with the best musicians in Nashville and its an absolutely impeccable production, sometimes over the top, but it doesn't matter, you trust the voice. That element of trust is critical."

From the Mojo obit, 7/13.


Entered at Sat Jun 15 01:04:50 CEST 2013 from (184.66.137.72)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Book stores

As for book stores that are independent, they are clearly in major trouble. In Victoria, Munro's continues to prosper and there are some used stores around. But it seems that the writing is on the wall for others. In Toronto, many have disappeared.


Entered at Sat Jun 15 01:02:51 CEST 2013 from (184.66.137.72)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Local' record 'stores

After all the negative comments regarding local record/cd/vinyl stores, we all seem to (except Joan unfortunately) have a place to go still to search out what we hope to find. In Victoria, within walking distance of the office, is Ditch Records and Lyle's. A vinyl store is also present not far from those in Fan Tan Alley. It has been there a long time and apparently is going strong. No sign of any demise for these. In Toronto, Vortex records continues 2 blocks away from where we live when we are there. I hope that these stores will continue to thrive. I am certainly trying to do my part.


Entered at Sat Jun 15 00:11:59 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

A common thing here with books (amazon resellers and ABE) is selling books at just one penny (plus post and packing). Or £2.96 as most people would call it.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 21:41:21 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Book Depository

BEG-thanks much for the link.I sent to my wife since she and I will enjoy looking through it.But,the words book depository,in my mind,are usually linked to 11/22/63.The mind seems to lock in on something from younger days and there it stays.Nevertheless,a great site!


Entered at Fri Jun 14 19:10:12 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Shipping

I'm not sure how it works with Amazon out of US, but the shippers are limited to the amount they can charge for shipping (like $2,98 for cds) Maybe if you bring it up to Amazon they can do something about it. Also some "shopbots" will give m you all the prices plus the shipping charges.

I'm forced to shop Amazon because there is no record stores left in Nassau County ,Where I live. Last one , HMV closed two or three years ago.

Peter I agree, Beautiful Old is just lovely to listen to. I went to school in Ohio and I always have liked Beautiful Ohio.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 18:31:58 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Green Shopping

My local store is withing walking distance from a train station, so it's very convenient to visit on my commute home. I also often have work-related business to take care of in that area. As there are many different shops in the vicinity, I can also pick up other things on the trip, such as fresh bread, wine & cheese.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 17:28:59 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My local stores will get it in a day or two also, but increasingly these good indies are spread thinly, so I might go to my favourite (Square Records) on a Monday, but as it's 30 minutes away, might not go back that way for a while. It wasn't so bad when there were three or four all in the town centre.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 16:45:21 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Record Stores

My local independent store, Decatur CD, which also sells vinyl, posts a new release list on its webpage each week. If they sell out, or don't have something in stock, they will order it and have it within a day or two.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 14:53:34 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Shipping

In fact, John, shipping is how so many of these companies make their money. If you watch all the TV ads for unusual products, after they say "But wait" and then offer you a second identical product instead of only one, they speak briefly and in rapid fire wording about shipping. It is the shipping that makes them a fair amount of money. I usually only order from Amazon directly and not any of the others who advertise there for this very reason. Even Amazon sometimes has shipping costs that are excessive. You have to be wary as you now know and read the shipping line carefully before the click.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 14:46:08 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D: A Mastercard or Visa guy was on BBC radio the other morning saying how concerned they were that "the largest online retailer" refused to ask for the three numbers on the back of the card as at least a check that someone was holding the card at the time of the transaction. i think we all knew which one they were talking about it.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 14:31:52 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Blind Boy Grunt in the UK 2013

Bob Dylan will be in Glasgow, Blackpool, and then finally The Royal Albert Hall in London to finish his European tour in November 2013. First time back to that venerable hall since 1966.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 14:20:18 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG

Thanks for the info A :-)


Entered at Fri Jun 14 14:12:50 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I still have my Knockin' On Dylan's Door On The Road in '74 a Rolling Stone book...cost....1.50. I just checked Book Depository which doesn't charge for shipping....not available but there are other books by Ben Fong-Torres.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 14:03:20 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V / Amazon

Well Peter, I decided to order a copy of "Knockin' On Dylan's Door"; from Amazon this week. I had a copy; but can't find it. It is an account of Tour 74; by Ben Fong-Torres. The used paperback was $11.95. No problem. Unfortunately, I order by 1 click; so you don't see your complete bill right away. Yesterday morning I got my electronic bill. $35.00. $23.95 for shipping. For shipping!!! I must come clean to say that I had to order the book at the low price; from a third party company that is under the Amazon banner. Amazon themselves never charge me that much for shipping. I tried to cancel; but it was already being shipped. It's happened to me twice now. Live and learn and no more 1 click for me.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 13:24:31 CEST 2013 from (184.144.110.224)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Baby, do you understand me now?
Sometimes I feel a little mad
But don't you know that no one alive can always be an angel
When things go wrong I feel real bad.

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

Thanks Jon Lyness...I'll probably be seeing Mavis Staples once again on June 22 at Nathan Phillip's Square (sitting outside tent).
Btw, Bill M....same day as Junction Festival.
Her song "Keep Your Eye On The Prize" from a previous recording produced by Ry Cooder....We'll Never Turn Back......always helped me when I didn't think I could carry out something. It worked! I have this year off!!!!!

Peter....Thanks for posting link to The Beautiful Old. I really like artists like Graham Parker, Garth Hudson and Richard Thompson.

Hi Bob F. I apologise as I keep forgetting to respond to your last post.....I do know about bullying first hand here and elsewhere. Pit bulls tried to run me out but my spirit won't allow it. One way females bully is to intentionally exclude others.
At school we have a Roots of Empathy program where a mom and her baby come into the school each week and the kidzzzzz learn about empathy.
"Roots of Empathy is an evidence-based classroom program that has shown significant effect in reducing levels of aggression among school children while raising social/emotional competence and increasing empathy."
It's one way we address bullying in the school system.
Even though I'm not back to work until the fall....Today I'm off to a workshop on autism. Now those kidzzzzz.....either really respond to music or they don't. It was a Backstreet Boyzzz song that connected with one student. Yeah, there's even a song of theirs that I brought into the classroom because I knew the kidzzz were digging them at the time. Another reason I sometimes watch shows like American Idol and The Voice is that the performers cover songs of many artists from many genres and I try to keep up with what's from the past and the present......Keeps my spirit young....and then if I'm bullied.....well.....I might crank up Tupac's music.... :-D


Entered at Fri Jun 14 10:55:04 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Eric Burdon

Mention of Eric Budigging them at the time. Another reason I sometimes watch shows like American Idol and The Voice is that the performers cover songs of many artists from many genres and I try to keep up with what's from the past and the present......Keeps my spirit young....and then if I'm bullied.....well.....I might crank up Tupac's music.... :-D


Entered at Fri Jun 14 10:55:04 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Eric Burdon

Mention of Eric Burdon reminds me to ask about his recent album, 'Till Your River Runs Dry." I found it hard to get a copy at all. Nowhere had one. He had the bad luck to be released at the point everyone thought HMV was going bankrupt, and shops weren't allowed to order, and companies were declining to supply HMV anyway. HMV survived, shorn of over a third of its shops, but Eric Burdon's well-reviewed record got lost. I haven't given it enough time yet. Maybe today. Mention of Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood reminded me of what an instinctively great singer he is. Interviews at the time of release mentioned how he suffered from racism (because he was white) from the members of War.

Another example of why the record shops are in trouble is Laura Marling's "Once I Was An Eagle." You'd think that getting long five star reviews in all the serious papers and monthly music mags was a recipe for success, but I spent two weeks, looked in four different HMV stores and three indies and never saw a copy. Reluctantly I ordered mine from amazon. I say reluctantly because each time I do this I think it another nail in the coffin lid for record stores. But if they don't read the reviews and order in the well-reviewed stuff, what can they expect?


Entered at Fri Jun 14 05:20:35 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: 'Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood'

Kevin J: Good vision but no rumble. My comments always were directed at those who are sexist, elitist and closed minded. BEG was the target and others have been in the past. It is those comments which I called 'crap' and not anything BEG has ever said. As others have said, she (and others) are what make this GB special. So as Eric said so eloquently... 'intentions are good'....misunderstood'.


Entered at Fri Jun 14 04:21:30 CEST 2013 from (66.243.205.111)

Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Rockport, ME

Subject: Bessie

Thank you Jimmy - I always loved that song. Until all the info came out - I always thought it fit in quite nicely with the other basement tracks. It has that terrific quality - it could only be done by "The Band". The drums, bass, organ and the vocals are pure, so imaginative. Norah Jones does a nice take on it. As for all the research -I'll stick with Bob Seger -"Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then......".


Entered at Fri Jun 14 01:03:06 CEST 2013 from (69.156.30.67)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Kevin! I'd like to say that I missed you, but if Westie is still around....He's gonna call me a harlot again. ;-D
Many thanks for alerting us to a longer interview with Robbie and Sebastian and for your song of the day. You really got me....I thought it might be a cover of that other song....lol
Here's my song of the day.....I think this one is Joseph Arthur's gem on The Ballad of Boogie Christ.

GARTH HUDSON WITH JOSEPH ARTHUR...I USED TO KNOW HOW TO WALK ON WATER.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 23:58:44 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Definitly Crazy!

Kevin, you ain't getting high chewing the bark off birch trees.........wwwwhatttt! have you been smokin' boy?

I'm away agin tomorrow morning to go up to Shearwater, near Bella Bella, (Indian Territory) and load a load of logs.

Now I'm gonna tell alluh-yuz. There ain't nothing like driving down the solitude of the Nimkish Valley, 2 hours thru' nothing but trees, hardly any traffic.......listening to the Brown Album. Except for the truck that I'm driving, (an 07 GMC Sierra) I could have gone back in time. There is nothing much changed there from those days when I worked in Port McNeill and listened to the Band, Johnny Rivers, singing Harold Dorman's old "Mountain of Love", Chuck Berry's Mabiline, listened to Van. If you drive along like that and let your mind go back into the music, it's like you really are back there.

Y'all have a good week.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 22:36:05 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Mavis!

Nice news: new album by Mavis Staples, produced by Jeff Tweedy, out in two weeks.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 22:11:06 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.193)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Song of the day - Linked Marty Stuart Going Going Gone


Entered at Thu Jun 13 21:38:07 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.193)

Posted by:

Kevin J

......one more thing.......I spent the last week on a Vision Quest.......while sitting in the woods and eating the bark off trees, I wasn't sure if I was getting high or getting crazy.....I had visions of BEG and JT in a rumble, Peter getting vulgur with apple pies, Al Edge dropping in before droppiing out........all of this and I was sure I was getting crazy......................then a vision appeared with the lovable Billy announcing to all that he was leaving to follow a "trail of tenderness"...........ahhhhh....I knew I was getting high!


Entered at Thu Jun 13 21:37:00 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Beautiful Old - Garth Hudson

You should enjoy this video sampler for "The Beautiful Old", featuring Garth on so many tracks. If you haven't got it yet, you probably need it!


Entered at Thu Jun 13 21:19:00 CEST 2013 from (97.81.222.55)

Posted by:

Jimmy Nelson

Web: My link

Subject: Always loved this song by Rick

On "Bessie Smith" ...


Entered at Thu Jun 13 21:13:57 CEST 2013 from (24.114.72.193)

Posted by:

Kevin J

.....BEG: Love your spirit and moxie..........but but.......perhaps a "Moon Struck One" moment for you or maybe just my own lack of humor when it comes to anything related to our PM but I saw that leak ( by Tory imsiders ) to the CBC yesterday of Harper's attempts at humour as just as pathetic as when they tried dressing him in those fireside sweaters years back in an attempt to soften him up.......He is a bully and a prick to boot and no amount of PR or insider gobbledygook can change that..............The worst part of watching the 1st round of the NHL playoffs was having to sit though those out-of-campaign character assasination ads on Justin Trudeau that seemed to run every 30 seconds........The same BS approach to politics that prior to Harper arriving was just not done in Canada.......

Pat B: I doubt Steve would have had issues with Crawford.....1.) He is a local Montreal kid and played his juniors in the QMJHL so Steve would have been familiar with him , and 2.) He has played sensationally in these playoffs, unlike Niemi the last time the Hawks were in this same position........While his knocks on Antti Niemi were a bit over the top, the goaltending in the 2010 Stanley Cup final might well have been the weakest from both sides ( Philly and Chicago ) ever on display......

.......anyhow, Crawford has, at least for me, now leaped into a front runner status for starting Team Canada goalie at 2014 Winter Olympics..........a few defining moments for me.......the number of truly clutch saves he has made all through the playoffs and his jumping in to help Toews in Game 5 vs LA. The way he did that said a whole lot about him......funny side note....Niemi has developed into a very fine goalie...top 2 or 3 in the league.....Hoping so badly that the Hawks whack the Bruins....I detest everything about that team......coach, style of play, all of it.

Whole Lotta Love: I watched the whole interview with Sebastian and Robbie Robertson...........a couple of things...........at about the 3/4 pole, I was thinking Sebastian might just jump up and exclaim "Hey, hold on, HE didn't do the damn book all by himself you know!"...............a sweet moment near the end was when Sebastian laughed about taking his dad to a RUN-DMC concert and also as a young kid asking his dad to teach him how to play Zep's "Whole Lotta Love".


Entered at Thu Jun 13 20:50:32 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: TV music / Contest

The link is to a Gand vs Doors contest. Vote

Did anyone catch The Daily Show with Mavis Staples and The Colbert Report with an hour of Paul McCartney last night? It is probably on line.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 19:26:29 CEST 2013 from (184.145.67.233)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Good pie yarn, Peter V.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 17:53:19 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Nescafe

Same in Greece, SADavid, even 30 years ago. (Greek coffee being the same as Turkish coffee). You had to specify Greek coffee and everyone thought Nescafé was cool. It's a language point, because they used Nescafé generically, so you could have a Nescafé (or perhaps nescafé) made by Maxwell House. I suspect it has now changed and like everywhere else they just go for Italian varieties. Last time I was in a Turkish restaurant in Britain I asked for Turkish coffee and they said they hadn't done it for years, too much hassle to prepare. They had a Gaggia machine and did a very nice double espresso.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 16:00:15 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: leaves like it had never bean

Visited Turkey, about fifteen years ago.
We were looking forward to the Turkish coffee, but everywhere we went we were offered tea (nice, regular black tea).

If you asked for coffee, they'd nod vigorously and say "Nescafé!"

I guess it was a new thing . . . everyone seemed very proud to be able to furnish you with a cup of instant . . . .


Entered at Thu Jun 13 15:36:14 CEST 2013 from (70.29.31.77)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and for much needed laughter from YouTube: Stephen Harper does PM impressions

"Stephen Harper does comedy impersonations of PM Joe Clark and Brian Mulroney, among others, in this video that surfaced under the YouTube banner 'Steve Harper' this week."


Entered at Thu Jun 13 15:32:15 CEST 2013 from (70.29.31.77)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band’s Robbie Robertson Gets Children’s Book Biography

SEBASTIAN...Could you please ask Robbie if he will be coming to Indigo Bookstore in Toronto to promote this book? Both of you? Just asking so that I don't preorder it if he will be in town to sign it.

I previously had Robbie sign Myron Zabol's (buddy of imagezulu) photography book PEOPLE OF THE DANCING SKY which includes a brief song lyric by robbie with some photos from Six Nations, Brantford, Ontario....Rob Bowman was also sitting beside Robbie at Indigo Bookstore and seemed to look like he wasn't even aware of this book at the time.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 13:55:20 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: The Other Java Blues

I found myself going back to Rick Danko's first solo album, yesterday. I believe it was the best of his solo recordings. "Sip The Wine, New Mexico and Java Blues" really stand out for me. What a voice.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 10:47:39 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Java Blues

Tales of coffee

Like Australia, Britain had major Italian immigration in the 1950s, and in London you’ll always find decent coffee in one-off small Italian places, invariably better than the chains. Apparently, a significant proportion of Italian prisoners of war never went home … after 1943 when Italy switched sides, they were allowed to do farm work and many married and stayed.

Anyway, my tale for today. The Trust House-Forte international hotel chain started in Britain, but that Forte family had two other less successful brothers. One owned three large restaurants with attached coffee shops in central Bournemouth, the other an ice-cream factory and restaurants in Poole and Llandudno. I worked washing-up in a Poole one once as an Easter holiday job, then a couple of years later in 1966, got a temporary job making coffee (the word barista was unknown) in the Bournemouth one.

This was first-rate Italian coffee, and many tourists were astonished at how powerful it was. All went well for four days, but on the Friday the owner waddled in, looked at me and said ‘Go next door. Get a haircut.’ I declined (it was shoulder length, no more), and he snarled ‘Sack him,’ at the manageress. She said, ‘What now? We have to pay him until 5.30.’ He said, ‘OK, put him in the kitchen. I can’t have long hair like that in front of customers.’

When I was teaching English, we did regular courses for hotel and catering staff from Europe, and I know that in catering, dismissed employees ALWAYS leave the premises at once. I was too nice a lad to do what others do in that situation, having no grievance against the customers, only the management. But I was put in the kitchen (which was huge and baked for all the restaurants) and assigned the job of marking fruit pies with A for apple or B for blackberry with cut out pieces of pastry. I immediately pointed out that as they only had two kinds of pie, a simple circle on the apple and nothing on the blackberry would serve to distinguish them, but I was always a smartarse.

Anyway, I worked diligently all afternoon. I was so keen to go back the next day and see how they had displayed the resulting pies in sets of four with F, U, C and K inscribed in pastry on the top.

Years later in the 1980s, we had an office 200 yards from that restaurant and had our coffee in the coffee shop every morning. It was still fantastic.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 01:08:13 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Ballads

I love R&R,the blues,jazz,and The Band music(yes,The Band is its own musical genre).I love Dylan,Beatles,Allmans,Dead,Miles,Monk,Coltrane,and much more,although not enough newish music(post 70's-I know I'm stuck in a musical time warp-but it's what I enjoy).Lately,I seem to listen to songs that are best described as ballads.Whether by The Band or its members,Gegg Allmans anthology(acoustic,softer music-ballad oriented),Jerry Garcia or Dylan,I seem to listen to all the ballads.What happened to my rock?My Roll? We all go through musical phases.Whatever that is.


Entered at Thu Jun 13 00:24:57 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Jeff: see you on the flip side, man.

Brown eyed girl: love your work. Always have, always will.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 22:38:49 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Vinyl Addiction

Bill M, with his comment regarding paraphenalia, got me thinking. Here I purchased 3 vinyl recordings from The Band (again) and when I was in there at London Drugs, I saw vinyl by Leonard Cohen, Steely Dan, of course Beatles, and Bob Dylan. Now I have most of Dylan mint on vinyl (and many more) but Leonard Cohen (not so much, except for the newest album). (When was the last time we used the word 'album'). It makes me want to grow my moustache back and get my fringe jacket back. It reminds me of seeing Jimi Hendrix on the circular stage at MSG when I was 19. The whole experience of buying vinyl has 'got me reelin', round and round'. And this in the middle of a working afternoon in Victoria.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 20:39:06 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

BEG, you know I enjoy your musical obsessions. Always have and always will. Having been in your shoes--veterans may recall a serial poster thought I was a woman when I first started here and thought I shouldn't be playing with the big boys--I now laugh when the bullies come out to play.

If Steve were here, he's be telling me what a bad tender Corey Crawford is, even as he leads the Hawks to the Cup.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 20:06:02 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

JT I totally agree with you about giving and taking "crap"

BEG you are a treasure. I'm so glad you are back posting. Yyou were missed.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 19:16:23 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Local Color

BEG: Interesting that Joseph Arthur recorded a series of songs at the Highland Inn in Atlanta. It's an old, refurbished hotel just down the street from the legendary Manuel's Tavern and The Carter Center. Just a couple of blocks around the corner is the Little 5-Points area.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 19:01:05 CEST 2013 from (69.158.87.247)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Joseph Arthur sits down for an intimate late night session at the Highland Inn in Atlanta, GA on February 10th, 2010....
"Honey and the Moon".
Ok Pat B....I see your eyes rollin'.....probably thinkin'......Now she's obsessed with JA instead of Louuuuuu. ;-D
(Go Hawks....Only....because Boston barely beat The Leafs).


Entered at Wed Jun 12 18:28:43 CEST 2013 from (69.158.87.247)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Welcome back Westie! I still ain't scrubbin' any floors for ya. lol
Hey check out Tom Jones and...David Clayton-Thomas in 1969 from the Big Jim Sullivan Show. At first I thought they were going to perform....."Spoonful" because of the beginning bass riff....written by Dixon but when I was young and growing up in a small city.....I thought Cream wrote it.

It's all good JT. :-D

Butch...You're very lucky to have found a good woman.
Would you believe that if I hadn't attended Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival I would have been in NYC this week to see Vivino, Ciralante, and Jim Weider...(road warriors introduced Jim to me when he had his Guru band.....and.......I just found out recently.........that JOSEPH ARTHUR will be peforming this Thursday at the Bowery Ballroom!

Ari.....Maybe you can see JA for me and enjoy the great writing and energy of a real artist......and tell him that I received his CD and now waiting for his poetry book and.........that JT is now a fan!!


Entered at Wed Jun 12 18:12:53 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: From Strawberry Wine to The Rumor

Forty-three years ago this month The Band began recording at the Woodstock Playhouse with a young wizard pop star at the board. After two brilliant albums, things had begun to change in the group's dynamics. And yet, after several stages of mixing, another great record emerged.

On the turntable this week is the excellent Mobile Fidelity LP reissue of "Stage Fright."


Entered at Wed Jun 12 17:40:45 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What goes up...........

I'm with you there Jerry. David Clayton Thomas stays on top and he is great.......Well I made it home from that last drag. Never shut my engine down for 5 days dragging that gawd damn camp.....got some good pictures too.

I think you smiled on me Joan, we lucked out with good weather all the way.

London Drugs has a really big store in Courtenay. Not long ago I wandered thru' there, as Susan loves to go into London Drugs. I was going to post this then. The CD racks in the electronics department are great. There was 4 different CD's of the Band in there, including MFBP, the Brown Album, greatest hits, and shit.I forget the last one. Also a lot of Dylan, Van the man, in all a huge selection.

Well now I have a big chore. Susan's son Ken, now at 40 has finally found the girl to marry. They live in Estevan, Sask. They all of a sudden decided to come out for a visit and get married while they are out here. Up on the top deck of the Rockin Chair...get married at sea. Susan found a lady, Justice of the Peace who is happy to perform the ceremony, and thinks this is exciting. I think it will be fun.

Bill and Kevin, you guys can have your caviar, I don't like the stuff, but you both get yer asses out here, I'll feed you some smoked salmon.

Hope every body is well and happy. I have to leave again Friday, run up to Bella Bella, and load a load of logs on my barge and transport down to Beaver Cove and pitch 'em off.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 16:50:11 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Missing out on beauty

And BEG, from where I sit, I don't think you are missing out on any beauty.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 16:47:35 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Valuable assets: Keep it up please

Everything you post, BEG, is of interest. The crap is the negativity that some people put forward regarding taste. The reason I read (and write) here is because I want to read what you and others have to say and what you enjoy. It is because of you that I found Joseph Arthur. It is because of others that I found other performers. The exchange of information here from you and others is what GB is all about. There is no crap! Even the friction that sometimes develops here leads ultimately to stimulated views and thinking. So no sexism. No elitism. Keep it up! You are what makes this site what it is! And it is good!


Entered at Wed Jun 12 16:37:29 CEST 2013 from (69.158.87.247)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JT....My feelings, ideas and thoughts aren't crap....They just are....I never posted how I really felt at the time but after watching Joni's interview.....I felt I needed to......my right. Period. There's nothing crap about me.....I've given my time, effort and heart to this site.....willingly.......crap isn't in my vocabulary as I try to be open minded about everything in life and when I'm not open to life, music.....I miss out on a lot of beauty. :-D


Entered at Wed Jun 12 16:30:09 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Opinion and personal taste

We are past that! I read John D and BEG and all other opinions on music with equal interest. They are all valid because they are personal taste. If I like certain music or Starbucks coffee, so be it. Their my taste buds and my ears and brain. If I chose to share that with you in an open forum, thats my business. If you don't like it... So keep on posting and no more crap. No one should leave. We are past that!


Entered at Wed Jun 12 16:02:16 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Al Edge: The Starbucks Band compilation was produced by Steven Stolder, who also wrote the liner notes. The 14 Capitol tracks were licensed from EMI Music Special Markets. "Ain't No More Cane on the Brazos" was licensed from Sony and The Last Waltz version of TNTDODD from Warner Bros.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 15:49:16 CEST 2013 from (24.168.42.194)

Posted by:

Butch

Subject: Rascals on Broadway

Yo B E G,,,, Ya shoulda said Something!! We'd have loved to hang with ya,,, Great Night! Love The Rascals! Thanks for all you folks did for me/us when I was sick & waiting for my Miracle! 8 years post-transplant,,now,,, thank Gd, Bd


Entered at Wed Jun 12 15:45:15 CEST 2013 from (69.158.87.247)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and thanks to Kevin J.....Ethel Smith (Hammond organ) 2 of 2 - Tico Tico from the film Bathing Beauty (1944).


Entered at Wed Jun 12 15:16:56 CEST 2013 from (69.158.87.247)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you Peter!!!!! It's one of my favouite videos too!!!! They're just groovin' here......and Bob's hair is at it's best, as I never liked those really long locks. ;-D
Did I tell you that I saw them when I was maybe around 20 or was it early 20's and Ben Harper saw them when he was 12? (chanelling Rollie here) Would you believe we have that BOB MARLEY AND THE WAILERS video of STIR IT UP downloaded on my iMac? It's a good thing we do, as recently someone stole his imagezulu's crumpler bag that had his iPod, and many things totalling around 1600.00 due to polarized prescription sunglasses, etc. The two women who had stolen his bag were seen on video at King/Yonge.

Hey Butch I saw you walk by me in NYC as I was waiting to go into the theatre to see THE RASCALS. I wanted to tell your partner that I was one of the people who was sending her email re ZZZZ's painting to raise money for you when you needed a new liver......as Louuuuu now has.

It was very telling John D when I previously posted that I was watching American Idol because I just happened to see Joshua Ledet and I really appreciated him because of his soulfulness and he was only 19. Some of the boyzzz here went at me as if I don't know anything about "good" music and then you posted that you watch The Voice.....which I also watched if I happened to lock into a particular performer and all of a sudden you got a different reaction.......I still posted anyway because no one here can tell me what to like and what not to like. I've seen tons of bands in my time and I'm clear on what I dig......The Voice is a different style of show but it's the same thing........My point....was that "good" music can be found anywhere and that if your heart and mind are open....You will find it anywhere.....not a rant just dealing with sexism here and expressing myself as one of the few female posters still posting.....main reasons being to discover Band related links to promote legacy of The Band and to share music from many genres.....

Remember "pretty little girl" from way back Peter? I ended up meeting her in Toronto and she left the GB because of sexism here.......Here we are in 2013 and the same shit.....

Anyway, I agree that Amber Carrington and Sasha Allen are really good vocalists. I really liked the Swon's Brothers' cover of Darius Rucker's "Wagon Wheel". Danielle Bradbery is great too......and at only 16.....She has a looooong life ahead of her to receive many accolades. I'm rooting for MICHELLE CHAMUEL because I've already downloaded her covers of "Grenade", "True Colours" and Pink's "Just Give Me A Reason"......I've playing them over and over on my Nano while I'm walking around the city or rowing away on the rowing machine at the gym. It's really cool how Usher and Michelle have bonded and how they've locked into each other musicially and personally.....very cool.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 13:55:16 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John

Well, BEG, I'm rooting for Michelle. The two country brothers going to the end does not make any sense to me. Last night two great talents were sent packing. I only watch The Voice for talent related shows. I figure that middle America seems to be controlling the voting here. Sasha Allen should have gone to the end. Shakira & Usher have been a breath of fresh air. She is far friendlier and more positive than C.A.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 12:11:51 CEST 2013 from (75.34.57.195)

Posted by:

Adam

Peter, thank you very much for the informative response. It all makes sense now. It sounds like something I actually want to see, now.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 10:47:56 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Best of Old Grey Whistle Test

The link goes to my all-time favourite Old Grey Whistle Test performance. This one's for you, Angelina!


Entered at Wed Jun 12 10:45:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It wouldn't have been the frame rate they altered … but they did make songs seem to synch. Maybe it was illusion.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 10:07:37 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just Googled a bit more and found which show it was:

27 11 1973 new york dolls, michael chapman(B.B. King on film, 'promised land' The Band)

What is fascinating is that was one of the most famous shows, where Bob Harris outraged The New York Dolls by introducing them as "mock rock."


Entered at Wed Jun 12 09:58:22 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Promised Land & Felix The Cat

The explanation … the second item on The Old Grey Whistle Test TV show was always a track to a black & white cartoon. They had a technique where they altered the frame rate to the beat so it appeared to be synched to the music (well, in 1973 a lot of the watchers were in a state where it probably worked just with imagination). Being chosen for that slot was quit an accolade, and it went to significant releases where the artists couldn’t be present, either because like The Band they weren’t in the UK, or like The Rolling Stones because they were too big to do the show. If anyone wants to search the archives, I mentioned another Band track being done this way. My memory was King Harvest, but by the time the TV show started this was already an “oldie.” Just thinking this morning, I wonder if it was The Shape I’m In … I say this because I always see three cartoon animals strutting down a street as it starts.

If you follow the link, you’ll find the Old Grey Whistle Test cartoon with music was a fondly-remembered thing in the UK. None of them apparently survive, but on the link someone has re-created the idea with a song by Simon Sessler (who I hadn’t heard of). Note that the cartoon has a connection to the lyric or the title and these were great cartoons.

The Old Grey Whistle Test didn’t do lip synch, but early on, like Top of The Pops followed British Musician Union rules … it had to be partly live, so they recorded a new, live in studio instrumental track before the live transmission to get it right, and did the vocal live to it. That was abandoned by 1972, when it became totally live.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 07:02:26 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.41)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Tender Trails To You

Dlew, Krispy Kreme Donuts used to be scrumptuous. They've become awful, but not as awful as Dunkin Donuts have.

I'm taking a different path on the trail of tenderness. Any of you whom may ever wish to communicate, can email easily enough. Todd, Lars, Peter, Jan, David P. Dlew, and others have my email address if you don't. Or you can email me through my website, which they also have if you don't.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 06:43:19 CEST 2013 from (70.29.30.88)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Maybe The Hawks (Go Hawks) actually performed on AB...but then they wouldn't have performed CC. Hmmm....

"After a warm reception, the Arkansas native decided to build his musical career in Canada. In the spring of 1959 Hawkins and his band stopped in New York and successfully auditioned for Roulette Records, resulting in 1959’s Ronnie Hawkins & The Hawks. The same band, with the addition of bassist James G. Evans, played on the follow-up, Mr. Dynamo. "Forty Days" reached number 45 on the American charts in July of 1959, while "Mary Lou," which sold 200,000 copies in its first week, reached number 26 in October. Despite having a hit on the chart and an appearance on American Bandstand, Paulman, Jones, and Evans eventually quit over money issues and returned to Arkansas. "The Hawks," noted Wallis, "rarely stayed as a settled unit for very long." In 1960 the evolving lineup, including luminaries such as Fred Carter Jr., Stan Szelest, and Roy Buchanan, toured and recorded The Folk Ballads of Ronnie Hawkins."


Entered at Wed Jun 12 05:53:20 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

An oft-told tale: The Band refused to lip sync, thus denying TV appearances on shows like AB and, notably, The Glen Campbell Hour.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 05:17:09 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Correction

Typo: cds ... not css.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 05:16:07 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Vinyl Band

This evening, I purchased MFBP, The Band and Cahoots on 180 g vinyl. This may be the nth time I've done that but I wanted mint copies for my recent turntable. As the kids say: (paraphrased from NYTimes article) " Listen to css? Why would I do that? That's what my dad does?"


Entered at Wed Jun 12 05:12:22 CEST 2013 from (75.34.44.21)

Posted by:

Adam

Subject: The Band (OQ) TV appearances

According to my sources, The Band only appeared on TV broadcasts 3 times from 1969-1976. The Ed Sullivan show in 1969, the Syria Mosque footage for Dutch TV in 1970, and Saturday Night Live in 1976.

I found online a book excerpt from "Popular Music on British Television" that in 1973, promoting Moondog Matinee, their Chuck Berry cover "The Promised Land" was used as the soundtrack to a 1930 Felix The Cat cartoon, and used as a promo. What was the point of that? They should have just filmed them performing the song.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 03:37:30 CEST 2013 from (76.68.48.169)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Helm was a junior in High School when Arkansas-born rockabilly singer Ronnie Hawkins heard him play the drums and hired him as a drummer for his band. Too young to drink legally, Lavon relocated with Hawkins to Ontario, Canada where the gigs paid better. “Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks” played six nights a week in Ontario. They were moderately successful- good enough to intersect with Dick Clark’s rock-and-roll money machine and appear on American Bandstand."

"Along with “Up on Cripple Creek” and “Rag Mama Rag,” Levon invited us into the Silver Rush of Colorado, and then to the devastation of a defeated but still proud South at the end of the bloodiest conflict in American history. Robbie Robertson wrote it, but it will be forever associated with Levon Helm’s vocal artistry and accent. That bugged me at the time, and has all down through the years since I first heard the plaintive lament to a society scourged by war and privation. Depending on whose version you are listening to, the lyrics can be heard as:

“Virgil Caine is my name And I served on the Danville Train Till “So Much” cavalry came- or wait, “Stonewall’s Calvary?” And tore up the tracks again…..”

Whatever, right? Just a song, right?

But “so much” doesn’t make much sense. And Stonewall Jackson never had any Cavalry. His brigade was an infantry outfit, and their marching skills were renowned as “Jackson’s Foot Cavalry.” No horses. And Jackson was killed at the battle of Chancellorsville in 1863, just down the road from Refuge Farm. And why would he be tearing up the tracks in the Confederacy, anyway?

But Robbie and Levon were right. The correct lyric is “Stoneman’s Calvary,” and therein lies a harrowing tale, if you haven’t heard of it."


Entered at Wed Jun 12 03:30:45 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Starbucks

It failed in Australia: mostly because you could buy a better cup of coffee next door for about 1/2 the price. Since the 1960s, we've had Italian coffee (espressos, capuccinos, latte's (which used to be called cafe au lait...). Indeed, Australian baristas invented the flat white. But Starbucks. Overpriced, underflavoured (and bizarrely overflavoured with the crap they put in). No competition. Krispy Kreme donuts as well didn't do sow well. McDonalds continues to thrive.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 03:16:35 CEST 2013 from (76.68.48.169)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Michelle Chamuel


Entered at Wed Jun 12 03:11:45 CEST 2013 from (76.68.48.169)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Disc 3 Song 10 from AB.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 02:31:06 CEST 2013 from (76.68.48.169)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Kevin from Northeast PA...The Band short clip from American Bandstand.

Who are you rooting for John D on The Voice? I've downloaded a few tunes by Michelle Chamuel so far.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 01:54:02 CEST 2013 from (174.54.185.44)

Posted by:

Kevin from Northeast PA

Web: My link

Subject: American Bandstand

Maybe this has been discussed before and I missed it but did the Band ever play American Bandstand? I was reviewing the Album Listings (again !) and don't recall seeing this before. Web page link above links to CD on this site.

I remember a lot of old clips (like Ed Sullivan) but never any Dick Clark Bandstand clips. Or, was this some type of "pre-recorded" tape.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 00:46:50 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.86)

Posted by:

Bill M

I'm with Peter V - taxes are the price we must pay for civilisation. So I will go to Starbucks and buy the CD and NOTHING else. And then I will hang around the cash register, passively aggressively interfering with the flow of commerce. Edward Snowden I ain't, or even a Taksim protester, but I will take a stand, yessir.


Entered at Wed Jun 12 00:26:12 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Starbucks

Hey Dave P.

Starbucks may suck for a variety of reasons not least their coffee but their guy/gal who drew up that Band song list sure has an instinct for The Band. That is one terrific selection. Throw in We Can Talk About It Now for Ophelia and if you ask me it's no more than a midge's widger away from the perfect 16 song list.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 23:39:02 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Starbucks have been heavily boycotted in the UK, which is justified. If you visit the UK, the Costa and Nero chains are both twice as good.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 22:55:40 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Java Compilation

I would also point out that the Starbucks compilation is reasonably priced at $12.95. You can easily spend more there on a couple cups of coffee and pastry items.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 22:51:33 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Possibly, but if you have to drink Starbucks foul coffee to buy it, even The Band aren't worth it. Worst coffee of any of the chains, and they're tax avoiders.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 22:42:00 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

For a one-disc compilation I actually think that does a nice job. The expected hits are there for the casual fan, but I like the inclusion of Ain't No More Cane, Whispering Pines and the live cuts.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 22:06:40 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: New Band Compilation

Yet another single-disc compilation entitled THE BAND has recently been released by Starbucks Opus Collection, receiving in-store airplay and available for sale at the coffee shops. What distinguishes this release is its nice eco-friendly digi-packaging with separate booklet, both featuring great group photos, many by Elliot Landy. Booklet contains a brief history of The Band and detailed descriptions of each of the 16 songs. Included are:

THE WEIGHT, CALEDONIA MISSION, TEARS OF RAGE, AIN'T NO MORE CANE ON THE BRAZOS (The Basement Tapes Columbia version), KING HARVEST (HAS SURELY COME), UP ON CRIPPLE CREEK, WHISPERING PINES, STAGE FRIGHT, THE SHAPE I'M IN, WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE, LIFE IS A CARNIVAL, RAG MAMA RAG (from Rock of Ages), MYSTERY TRAIN, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE, OPHELIA and THE NIGHT THEY DROVE OLD DIXIE DOWN (from The Last Waltz).

More on the sound quality when I get a chance to listen.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 19:11:47 CEST 2013 from (24.168.42.194)

Posted by:

Butch

Subject: The Scratch

Ari Good on you for taking that drive,, a Great Drive,,, Hope you took the 243Spur road down to Turkey Scratch, like we did last King Biscuit Festival, in Oct. Nice set of plaques across from A.B. Thompson Farm Store, on the Spur,, honoring Levon,,, It is where Jasper Diamond Helm & the Helms lived, too. Drive up hiway 49 aways, approx 5-6 miles north of Marvell & you will find The Helm home,, on a plot of land with 2 other tin-roofed "shacks",, Planned to be a part of Delta Cultural Center's exhibit on Sharecropping culture, soon, i was told,,, Also i hope you stopped in Marvell to say hello to Fireball? Levon's best friend from childhood, Fireball has the best Helm stories,,, lol Shadden's never re-opened after Wayne passed, but that killer Bar-B-Q vibe still hangs in the air, there. Love the Delta folks,,, Butch-man


Entered at Tue Jun 11 18:00:27 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

I believe that limited edition reissues from the Audio Fidelity label are usually limited to a run of 5,000.

Link above to an informative thumb-nail sketch regarding "What is music music mastering anyway?"


Entered at Tue Jun 11 17:25:13 CEST 2013 from (69.156.31.162)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi sadavid. Yes, I posted her interview below. Last night on CBC the interview was around five minutes. The one you and I posted is almost two hours. Apparently they actually talked for three hours. I'm so glad that I'll be seeing her once again next week. When I saw her and Dylan on the same bill, I was disappointed that they didn't perform together but I'm not surprised. She's got the guts and intellect and heart and creativity to put Dylan in his place at times. And for those of you here who continually bashed her for being at TLW.....GET OVER IT!

LONG LIVE JONI MITCHELL


Entered at Tue Jun 11 17:03:43 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Joni interview

BEG: thanks for the reminder . . . video of the full interview is now up, see [My link].


Entered at Tue Jun 11 15:31:49 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Dylan's Greatest Hits II

Ian Woodward: The Audio Fidelity hybrid-SACD version of Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II, a 2-disc set mastered by Steve Hoffman, was released about a week ago here in the U.S. It is a limited edition with each one containing a gold sticker indicating its release number on the outer cardboard slipcase (mine was #2258).


Entered at Tue Jun 11 15:15:54 CEST 2013 from (69.156.31.162)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Joni Mitchell's Interview on CBC.

Judy Anne succinctly sums it up for us...

"Joni's painting style looks somewhere between Emily Carr, the Group of Seven and of course, Van Gogh. She is one of the most creative women this country has produced. She is ours and ours alone. You gotta love Joni. For those of us who grew up listening to her she is role model for the independent woman who sees her life as a canvass."


Entered at Tue Jun 11 14:56:33 CEST 2013 from (69.156.31.162)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Joni Mitchell reflects on her life and legacy

Exclusive CBC interview in advance of her appearance in Toronto


Entered at Tue Jun 11 14:54:39 CEST 2013 from (69.156.31.162)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The art of Joni Mitchell

"We devote the entire program on Tuesday (10:00 today June 11) with Jian Ghomeshi on CBC's Q Radio) to an in-depth, and very revealing interview with Joni Mitchell. She will be in Toronto June 18 and 19 for the Luminato festival, where she will be reciting poetry (Yeah, I will be there next Wednesday!) at a tribute concert in her honour. But music and poetry are not Joni Mitchell's only gifts. She's also won acclaim as a painter. In advance of the festival, she welcomed Jian and a CBC crew into her home in Los Angeles, and gave us a rare view of the studio where she paints, as well as some remarkable, rarely seen paintings"


Entered at Tue Jun 11 10:43:19 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Pete Viney

Pete - can you look at your e-mail and get back to me.

Cheers.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 10:04:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I've made a note to mention Forevermore for December 2013, and also June 2014. Watch this space.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 05:06:03 CEST 2013 from (207.236.37.162)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

The Robbie guitar on this one's pretty good too - by Domenic Troiano would be my guess. Sounds like Robbie's early band-mate Scott Cushnie singing, which makes sense because Hawkins had hired him back to help run the Hawk Records operation. I'm sure that while Buddy Carlton and the Stratotones really did exist, and really recorded for Hawk, that they had nothing to do with this one. Note that it's written (and therefore produced) by Fred Carter, another former Hawk that Ronnie'd hired back to help out.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 04:54:14 CEST 2013 from (207.236.37.162)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Here's a link to what I think is the finest example of the Robbie Robertson school of Toronto guitar playing that wasn't by Robbie himself. This is the '65 version of Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks (aka the Disciples) with hair-raising guitar work by Bobby Starr, James Cotton guesting on harmonica and Fred Carter producing.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 03:21:27 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Todd

I have always been and continue to be an admirer of the work of Todd Rundgren since I heard Nazz walking along Yonge St. south of Bloor blasting out of a clothing store, 'Something, Anything' is a great album. I love his ballads and I think "One More Victory" is a song so full of heart and soul that I listen to it often. He is a master and is one of the musicians who wrote the book on 'creative'. I can't finish without mentioning "Is It My Name", a great rock song.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 02:41:08 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: rundgren

Just heard 'Something/Anything' by Todd Rundgren for the first time in about thirty years.

Also checked out a couple more GB faves.

Peter V.: I believe you've reminded us of Forevermore on a few occasions. I'm good with that.

Landy: Lon & Derrek. Honestly, I'd never heard this one before. I'm going to play it again right now. Kind of a Todd Rundgren vibe to it too.


Entered at Tue Jun 11 00:19:15 CEST 2013 from (174.54.185.44)

Posted by:

Kevin from Northeast PA

Subject: sadavid link

sadavid - loved that vinyl link. I have a Dual 1229 which is almost identical to the 1219 in some of thier pics. I think the only thing difference is mine has a strobe. Nice to see all that vinyl...


Entered at Tue Jun 11 00:17:21 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ari: You missed a golden opportunity to tell us how you felt, to the nearest half-hour, as you pulled into Turkey Scratch.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 21:51:47 CEST 2013 from (92.18.176.89)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Arkansas

Ari : Did you find any trace of the Helm family? I thought the way Levon described the way he grew up in Arkansas as the best part of his biography.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 20:39:05 CEST 2013 from (70.215.147.40)

Posted by:

Ari

Location: Turkey Scratch, Arkansas

Drove in to Marvell, Arkansae last night. Really beautiful here, much farther from Memphis than I thought.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 18:56:55 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Honestech Audio Recorder 3.0 Plus

I have all these old cassettes. Two have my Grandfather being interviewed for historical reasons and the other is my daughter at age 4 and a half, singing the soundtrack from Coal Miner's Daughter.

I saw this cassette recorder that attaches via USB to your computer and I was able to run off my material and then edit them. I don't own a traditional cassette recorder anymore. Good buy; but there sure was some rumble; when playing cassette's of that vintage. Just found my interview with Roger Daltry; on their first farewell tour.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 18:50:58 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: London Drugs

I love London Drugs. I visit them every time I am in Vancouver to visit my daughter. I wish they were here in Ontario. Where else can you fill your prescription and buy a TV at the same time. Love it!!!


Entered at Mon Jun 10 17:18:17 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Take a further look. Both Elvis Costello and Joy Division get placed on a Revox … a linear tracker, I think. I once had a great Technics linear tracker that died from the insulation on the tiny wires finally rotting. Sgt Pepper is on a Thorens, but inexplicably they used a German Odeon pressing. Little Richard finds himself on a cheap and chunky old Garrard autochanger.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 17:13:33 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Those vinyl on turntable pics aren't random. I particularly liked Never Mind The Bollocks It's The Sex Pistols displayed on an expensively stylish Beogram (Bang & Olufsen), an ironic combination. With a littlle more knowledge of old vinyl, they could have found more exciting centre labels.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 16:40:10 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.85)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: Seems fitting that London Drugs would carry paraphenalia for the vinyl junkie.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 16:23:04 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: More signs

And it was the 180 g vinyl by the way. (I believe that is the better grade?).


Entered at Mon Jun 10 16:21:51 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Sign of the Times

Yesterday I was in London Drugs on Yates St. in Victoria buying an adaptor for my trip to UK and Scandanavia (they have electronics /computersin this store - apothecaries have certainly come a long way). As I walked by the cashier's and towards the electronics/computer area, I saw a section with vinyl records! And in that section were Big Pink, The Band and maybe one other for $19.99 Canadian. The cds in that store are being cleared while the vinyl is prominently displayed. I would never have predicted this in an age of media evolution. It has obviously occurred to even the lower level businesses who sell all kinds of stuff that they can make money on vinyl.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 15:13:34 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: vinyl porn

For the vinyl guys . . . now showing at the Kopeikin gallery in Los Angeles, "World Record" -- some photographs of the actual albums (none of the best ones, c'est la vie) from Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. On classic turntables. Open thumbnail in new window for highest resolution.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 14:44:32 CEST 2013 from (64.231.179.80)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"I'm a long-time fan of The Band, so I naturally love the playing of Garth Hudson. Because I'm playing keys again (after some time playing only acoustic guitar) I happened to look up Garth's entry in Wikipedia. I may be the only one who didn't know this, but Garth's sound is not Hammond but Lowrey! :freak: Not only that, but according to the Wikipedia article, Garth made a point of avoiding the venerable B3. WTF?!

From Wikipedia:

Upon joining The Hawks, Hudson also took the opportunity to negotiate a new Lowrey organ as part of his package. This is significant as he was one of the few organ players within the rock & roll/rhythm & blues community to pointedly eschew the Hammond organ. The Lowrey organ offered a different mix of features and Hudson stayed with Lowrey right through Ronnie Hawkins/The Hawks, Bob Dylan and The Band, playing three different models: originally a Festival (FL) console which was replaced by a Lincolnwood TSO-25 during 1969. Later still, Hudson played a horseshoe console H25 model, as depicted in The Last Waltz.

Is there anyone else out there who fails to bow down before the B3? Is the Lowrey sound reproducible on a clonewheel? What isthis "different mix of features" offered by Lowrey? (Actually, any tips on mastering Garth's tone & style would be appreciated--this will be my project for the next few months! :cool"


Entered at Mon Jun 10 14:41:16 CEST 2013 from (64.231.179.80)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Joe J... :-D

"Filmed in Bob Dylan's trailer (suburb of Toronto) while he was working on the Hollywood movie HEARTS OF FIRE, in which Dylan played a retired rocker called Billy Parker. This clip (part 1 of 4) is part of a BBC 'Omnibus' documentary called 'Getting to Dylan' (1987)


Entered at Mon Jun 10 13:31:08 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.87)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

Ben P: David Clayton-Thomas's autobiography is worth a read. He tells how he was Ronnie Hawkins' auxilliary frontman in the Levon and the Hawks days, but only for gigs in town. I know from others that Hawkins often had extra players around that he didn't take on the road (including an extra sex and a trumpeter as well as Jerry Penfound and our guys for a time)

At the same time, DCT was doing teen dances with his own group, DCT and the Shays. While the Shays were a couple years younger, and had in Fred Keeler and Gord Fleming a powerful guitar-organ pairing that certainly came within hailing distance of the Hawks. They also played little but blues, and had a big regional hit with their first record in '64, "Boom Boom", produced by Duff Roman. So it was natural that the hit-seeking post-Hawkins Hawks would go to Duff Roman in the hope that he could do the same for them. Recordings were made, but nothing was released at the time (see "A Musical History").

Although he doesn't mention it in his book, DCT did mention in earlier interviews that another singer doing much the same thing at the same time was Eugene 'Jay' Smith. While Eugene has never, to my knowledge, claimed to have been more than a regular guest with Hawkins and the Hawks until later, in '63 and '64 he too had his own little blues band, Jay Smith and the Majestics, with a terrific sub-Robbie in Bobby Starr. The Majestcs too had a regional hit in '64, "Howlin'", with a killer solo by Starr.

As we know, Hawkins replaced the departed Levon and the Hawks with Robbie Lane and the Disciples. And when the Disciples left, Hawkins assembled a new Hawks that included the above-mentioned Jay Smith, Bobby Starr, Gord Fleming - and Sandy Konikoff, who jumped ship to take over from Levon on the Dylan tour.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 02:21:04 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: Far East

Subject: hey all

Haven't posted for some time but I'm spending a pleasant Sunday evening checking out some links you guys have posted re unappreciated music. Love it all, Joe Arthur (BEG, I've been listening to him for a while), Hans Staymer, Randall Bramblett, Mike Finnigan.

Been working long hours but a month ago took in the first of two Cohen shows in St Johns. Venue a five minute walk from our favourite restaurant; show a four hour love fest; dude did a dozen encores inc. 'Save the Last Dance',; venue a ten minute walk from our son's new home. Perfect evening.

Life is good.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 01:46:05 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jimmy Smith B3

Ian. I did see Jimmy Smith live at the Colonial Tavern here in Toronto and he was in fact, playing a B3.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 01:39:47 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Ian Woodward

Here is the link to the mysterious album that Mike and Dylan were a part of.


Entered at Mon Jun 10 01:19:07 CEST 2013 from (82.18.230.142)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Jimmy Smith, Mike Finnigan and Dylan's "G Hits 2"

Questions mainly:

1) I'm not an instrument nut but I saw Jimmy Smith once and I think he played a B-3. I also record a photograph in a jazz magazine of him taking his instrument out to one of the pirate radio ships. Would this have been a B-3, too?

I don't recall Mike Finnigan playing with Dylan. When was that, please? \3 Originally, the then-forthcoming Hybrid SACD of "Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol.II" was said to be a numbered limited edition. Did this happen? And, if so, what does it say on the packaging about this?


Entered at Sun Jun 9 16:12:49 CEST 2013 from (173.3.48.13)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Rod- Bands, it may be the contract they are under, if any. Got to work it out themselves. IF they are equals, they have to come up with what essentially is a constitution and governing laws. And when someone opts out, gets bought out, quits, whatever, the replacement may get partnership or may be a hired hand to a degree. There's all kinds of deals. Obviosuly, with Cream, and the memebrs hating each other, either they stayed togetehr by choice, or because they had to fulfill a contract, till whatever circumstance they split under.. I 've no clue. Friend of mine is in 5 or 6 piece band about 8 years now. They're all friends, been averaging bout 200 shows a year. had a record deal they were miserable with. Spent most of their money to get out of it, and now they handle every aspect of the business themzelves. these guys are fine wiht each other, and have a matuyre way of looking at things. Know they are fortuante to have guys they liek to work with, and fortunate to ge tto do what tey love and make a living. And when you have that attitude, it makes being adult and kind come natuirally. Maybe it has soemthign to do with being mature and kind to start with too. i don't know the others, but my friend couldnlt be nicer guy. Easy to get alogn with, a pleasure to work with. Humble and knows he;s lukcy he's never really had to work outside of music.....i think that as the music industry of the past becomes more of a memory, the staggering amount of spoonfed, , spoiled rotten,musiciains with star attitudes, musicians who are very used to being catered to and havinggn their asses kissed and being worshipped, will also become less standard, lots of pros were always nice, lots never ha dther feet on the ground. .....Many lifelong musicians have seen their existence change greatly. A list Players who used to get double and triple rate are now offering to record for 100 bucks an hour, or less (recording being very different from live gigs....guys will take gigs at home for next to no money just to play when home, but demand good money in the studio). Lots of great session players were always easy to get on with. Some difficult.But, as things go south, most people get easier.( Not all, but most.) the sad thing is, with in the next ten to twenty years, the level of talent left in existence is going to drop tremendously too.


Entered at Sun Jun 9 15:15:13 CEST 2013 from (69.158.24.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JOSEPH ARTHUR FINDS FOCUS WHILE SEARCHING FOR REDEMPTION ON ‘THE BALLAD OF BOOGIE CHRIST’

BY REVEREND JUSTITO


Entered at Sun Jun 9 14:29:57 CEST 2013 from (69.158.24.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Eagles, interview: 'Rock’s become very shallow and trite'

The Eagles are touring the world and have a new DVD out, but, as Joe Walsh and Don Henley tell Neil McCormick, they're 'not sure if you can change the world with music anymore'.

"Joe Walsh has played the guitar solo in Hotel California thousands of times, in rehearsal and on stage. “I never get tired of it,” he drawls.

“It’s still a challenge. I really have to pay attention. I mean, I can play it crappy. But I like to play it good.” Recorded in 1976, the twin guitar weave of Walsh and Don Felder, dovetailing and splitting, spiralling into the ether, then combining for a syncopated coda, may well be the most famous guitar solo in the history of rock music. “We had an empty page, the song was sung and we had spaces to figure out what to do,” says Walsh. “Don and I agreed that we would make individual statements in the body of the song and team up at the end. So we sat down in the control room, pretty intense, and went at it: 'Ok, you do this.’ 'No, no, no, I gotta do this.’ Don and I were competitive, we always tried to one-up each other, and we did that in Hotel California, except at the end we decided to team up, ’cause that way nobody would win.” Walsh laughs. “Yeah, it was a tie. Maybe everybody won.”


Entered at Sun Jun 9 14:23:25 CEST 2013 from (69.158.24.94)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Joan....Thanks for the short clip with Robbie and Sebastian.
Here's a bit more info from a site I sometimes order books...Book Depository.
For those of you looking for other children's books, I just recently received another book by J Jon Muth..._Zen Ties_.
Also have _Zen Shorts_ and the fabulous _The Three Questions_.

Legends, Icons & Rebels
Music that Changed the World
Written by Robbie Robertson, Jim Guerinot, Sebastian Robertson and Jared Levine

Part memoir, part tribute, and all great storytelling ...

"Music industry veterans Robbie Robertson, Jim Guerinot, Jared Levine, and Sebastian Robertson invite young readers to share with them in celebrating twenty-seven musical legends. Short profiles chronicle personal stories and achievements of extraordinarily talented artists whose innovations changed the landscape of music for generations to come. Carefully compiled like any great playlist, the line-up features originators, rebels, and risk-takers across diverse genres. From Ray Charles to Johnny Cash, Chuck Berry to Bob Dylan, Robertson shares anecdotes about these artists and the influence they had on his own musical journey. Always respectful of their reader, the writers never shy away from speaking about the difficult challenges these recording artists faced and the very human foibles that sometimes led to their tragic end. Most of all, it's the authors' passion and insights into these personal stories of creativity and collaboration -- and the power of music to shine a light on injustice and foster change -- that will fascinate, enlighten, and inspire music fans of all ages."


Entered at Sun Jun 9 13:47:58 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Singing and Playing

I started on piano and organ and although my singing is not very good I could do it.On bass I was pleased just to hold down the bottom,but no singing.Harmonica sure kept my mouth shut.And,guitars-forget about it-never could sing and play.


Entered at Sun Jun 9 10:28:25 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Eagles

Part 2 (post 1980) is on TV tonight. There were some interesting bits, and Frey was often right … Meisner only wanted to sing Take It To The Limit" if he felt like it, and seemed to fail to understand that people wanted to hear it. They never came across as dumb, and Frey (can't remember if it was in reference to Felder or Leadon) pointed out that they failed to understand that Henley was the best lead singer in the band, and the first choice on a song, which was astute. I was mildly surprised that he had realized it too. It's that thing about a "signature" voice rather than ability to sing. You always know it's Henley.

On reluctant bassists, I'm reading the badly-edited "33 and a third" series book on "The Notorious Byrd Brothers." Editors should know that nothing is "very unique" nor "extremely unique" even if the writer doesn't. The book points out that Crosby tried to play bass before Hillman joined The Byrds, but was completely unable to play bass and sing at the same time, in contrast to Paul McCartney and Brian Wilson. Or in fact Rick Danko, Chris Hillman. Timothy Schmidt, Jack Bruce, John Wetton, Alan Gorrie and many others. But playing bass while singing is a particular thing that seemingly some people who are otherwise accomplished musicians just can't do. One comment years ago was that it helped if your first ever instrument was the piano rather than the guitar.


Entered at Sun Jun 9 09:24:46 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Billy C

Billy C, agree with you totally about music being a job. For me it's a hobby - it didn't dawn on me until quite recently (I think someone here pointed it out) that professional musicians may see it quite differently. There are some people I work with that I don't like (only one or two fortunately) but we still work together to achieve a common goal. The main difference I see is that we share a boss telling us to pull our heads in. Not sure if that is always the case with bands other then they are tied to the same contract.


Entered at Sun Jun 9 05:38:19 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Musical Foes

Some bands have members who hate one another,yet make some tremendous music in the midst of the turmoil.One band that immediately comes to mind is Cream.In a sense their music reflects the rage,albeit performed with great brilliance.Eagles reflect marshmellow fluff performed with utter disinterest.The one eagles show I saw in 76 was a snooze feast.I'm not a huge fan of Walsh's playing yet he was the highlight of the evening.Had Henley and Frey smashed chairs over one another they might have stunned their listeners awake.Cream keeps me on the edge of my seat,even on a recording!


Entered at Sun Jun 9 05:16:22 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.82)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

things make you wonder, and of ocurse, there's different ways to look at things. Music, as creative as it is, is still a job. People take jobs they don't like all the time... Some stay at em, others move on... when the Eagles were building, it was a job. Randy and Bernire took it as long as they could, finally made nice money, and still split,with even better money on the horizon.But they still will forever have nice incomes from their time with The Eagle s.....Now the other guys, who put up with each other now, well, they are doing it for mega bucks. Will we ever see any new material out of em that is better than just decent...Not likely. it's a business, a job, possibly just an exceptioanlly high paying drudgery of talent that they go to...Practice their craft and get paid a fortune for doing itwith people they don' care for. How anyone in the audience could sit through a show if they know that is beyond me.

Some people can do things for the job. Years ago i worked with one musician I really disliked working with and got great musical results.But it sucked. I was into it before he showed himself and had to stick it out to get through that part of it....So idid, and it worked out tot hat extent.
Recently, I worked with a name, who was a egomaniac, control freak, and way too far impressed with himself. after two incidents in a matter of little time, i pulled the plug.Aborted what we were going to do together. Maybe it cost me, maybe it didn't. But I'm not about to be miserable and try to make music.

there's enough exceptionally talented people who are nice enough ( and there's some beautiful people too, some really great people) , that noone needs to be miserable working with other musicians or creators.. Noone's gonna be perfect- we all have to make allowances for our friends, family, and co workers. And we need them to dso the same for us. but the idea is to minimize the bullshit, find good spirited people.... when you can have a choice- when you can survive some other way, there's no need to be miserable, and truth is, you'll proabbly get better results some other way if you work with people you like. ....think abut it this way- what if the guys in the Eagles tried working with people they like and making new music, starting from scratch kissing the eagles good bye- as opposed to staying together as The Eagles and just making money. What great creations might they not be making these days? it;s easy tpo say when millions are not staring you in the face, but, is not the idea to make great music?


Entered at Sun Jun 9 04:19:29 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.82)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Jed- glad i, in collaboration with the straight shot, could provide a laugh.
I find it quite amazing that Peter followed my post wtih Eagles and joe walsh commentary. as you know, The Straight Shot have opened for both.


Entered at Sun Jun 9 03:57:23 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Eagles/Dolan

The Eagles.When I think of the brilliance,and visionary music of The Band it's kinda difficult to conjure up the minimally lasting impact and easy listening of The Eagles.All a matter of personal taste,of course! Now Dolan is another thing.His tenure as Knicks owner-horrors at times,mediocre sometimes.And really good at times-despite Dolan.But,still no champs since 73.He is a very lousy team owner-a spoiled child of a rich father,and even worse a terrible musician who forces his employees to listen to his band.This and Eagles could be too much to take,but I'm happily enjoying a killer set from Warren Haynes and Govt. Mule from Mt. Jam in Hunter,NY,live on the Internet.(hope you all realize my comments are all said with a spirit of fun-never know how communication comes across in Internet land)


Entered at Sun Jun 9 02:38:18 CEST 2013 from (74.78.175.69)

Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Rockport, ME

Subject: Glenn Frey

I do plan to check out the Eagles doc at some point. Frey must have hated coming back to Henley when it became clear who had the real talent. "Party Town", "The Heat Is On", "Smuggler's Blues" are no match for "End of The Innocence" and "Boys of Summer". Joe Walsh is a recovering addict - bless him. The gifted Don Felder, long gone - was the Mick Taylor of that band - unbelievable player. Frey made a lame remark about Tom Waits hating there cover of Ol' 55 - it's a nice cover but Frey is all ego - Tom Waits is in another league - crept for $.


Entered at Sun Jun 9 01:25:31 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Eagles documentary

Just watched the Eagles documentary part 1, to 1980 on BBC. Executive producer Glenn Frey. I could never understand why there were so many negative comments here about them until tonight. Frey is clearly a nasty control freak, but Henley, whose work I admire hugely, comes across as a pure politician, coldly intoning bland pre-prepared statements from on high. Joe Walsh is the last guy you'd want a hotel room next to, and sounded out of it,, though still articulate. Someone said here that late arrival Schmidt was the only pleasant guy in the band, and that is how it came across.


Entered at Sun Jun 9 01:00:01 CEST 2013 from (173.3.49.82)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Day jobs

He owns the Knicks.


Entered at Sat Jun 8 21:16:06 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie and Sebastians childrens book

LInk to a conversation about the new children's book


Entered at Sat Jun 8 20:14:36 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: The 'Voice' David Clayton Thomas

David Clayton Thomas can sing! He continues to sing and 'the voice' is exceptional and remains provocative. Aside from his well known body of work with BST following the Shays and Bossmen, his more recent work (the cds are available) as solo artist remains top notch. His interpretations are great and with his friends, he continues to deliver. Highly recommended. I had the privilege of hearing him at the Concord in those early years. He was great then and he remains so.


Entered at Sat Jun 8 19:36:52 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ben Pike

Well Ben, David was the front man for a group called David Clayton Thomas and The Shays. You can hear some of their tracks on YouTube. A very young Freddy Keeler who was there lead guitar player; was from the RR school of playing. An amazing R&B Band. David has spoken about being in Ronnie's band for a short period of time; but Bill M might know more about that. I don't remember it myself. The Shays were really launching; after Levon & The Hawks left Ronnie Hawkins. I'm told by Duff Roman; who produced the original DCT & The Shays material that they will be released on CD soon. That will be GREAT! My old vinyl is pretty scratchy. They were a dirty gritty R&B combo; which also featured Gord Flemming on organ. It was as some say, "The Toronto Sound."


Entered at Sat Jun 8 19:26:49 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Cash/Dylan Sessions 1969

I own the boot of the Cash/Dylan sessions and have had it for some time. It obviously is not real studio quality; but I figured that's what you get.

This morning I happened to be listening to the same track, "One Too Many Mornings" from the Chimes of Freedom Tribute Album. It is credited to Johnny Cash & the Avett Brothers. Well it's actually the Dylan/Cash; from '69 and the Avett Brothers are added. My whole point is that the track is absolutely pristine studio quality; which makes me think that out there somewhere, the Cash/Dylan sessions are in some studio in mint condition. Not that of the boot; which has been the only one available to the public. The New version of One Too Many Mornings is produced by Rick Rubin. I wish they would release an official copy of the Cash/Dylan sessions.

Chimes of Freedom Credits.

Musicians:

Lead vocal, guitar by Johnny Cash

Additional vocals by Bob Dylan

Additional vocals by Seth and Scott Avett

Acoustic guitar by Seth Avett

Banjo by Scott Avett

Produced by: Rick Rubin


Entered at Sat Jun 8 18:18:16 CEST 2013 from (107.214.220.221)

Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: Spinning some wheels

Used Amazon for a past blast, the nearly forgotten if ever really noticed album "David Clayton Thomas", found very reasonably priced on an import DVD. Sounds like what it probably was, a rush job to cash in on the hot but splintering "Blood, Sweat and Tears." Still, and in despite of the lush arrangements knocking up against the muddy mix job, the album has some toe tapping moments, and is more dedicated to expanding gospel pop than even BS and T. Dave sounds great. Oddly, the most horn drenched tune is "Don't Let It Bring You Down," credited to "Neil Diamond(!)" while Gary Wright gets the nod for Edgar Winters wonderful "Dying To Live.(not a bad version either)" Thomas's own song, particularly in view of "Spinning Wheel" and "Go Down Gamblin." is undistinguished. The songwriter promised by those hits never materialized. I never really got what, if any, relation Thomas had to The Hawk, but he was from Canada.


Entered at Sat Jun 8 17:14:56 CEST 2013 from (50.101.56.74)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

TUESDAY JUNE 18 AND WEDNESDAY JUNE 19

JONI: A PORTRAIT IN SONG - A BIRTHDAY (70) HAPPENING LIVE AT MASSEY HALL

Artist Info
Featured Artists

Kathleen Edwards
Herbie Hancock (June 19)
Glen Hansard
Esperanza Spalding (June 19)
Cold Specks
Liam Titcomb
Rufus Wainwright
Lizz Wright

Band: Ambrose Akinmusire (trumpet), Brian Blade (drums), Melvin Butler (saxophone), Jon Cowherd (piano & keyboards), Bill Frisell (guitar), Jeff Haynes (percussion), Marvin Sewell (guitar), Christopher Thomas (bass).

Additional performers will be added.

Direction by Brian Blade & Jon Cowherd
Produced by Danny Kapilian

JONI MITCHELL WILL BE ATTENDING BOTH CONCERTS!

I've seen her with Dylan at Maple Leaf Gardens and in Niagara Falls, New York during the Rolling Thunder Revue Tour but never at Massey Hall or smaller venue. :-D


Entered at Sat Jun 8 16:55:30 CEST 2013 from (50.101.56.74)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and I think Joseph Arthur's niece begins video of "It's Ok To Be Young/Gone" from The Ballad of Boogie Christ....Someone else thinks it's the daughter of the one who took the video..... :-D

I've also now pledged on Willie Nile's latest CD. I've seen him a couple of times in NYC at Garland Jeffreys' gigs at Joe's Pub and the Cutting Room....adding some punk energy from Buffalo one New Year's night!


Entered at Sat Jun 8 16:37:44 CEST 2013 from (50.101.56.74)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

All The Old Heroes...Joseph Arthur from latest CD The Ballad Of Boogie Christ.
The Band are included....


Entered at Sat Jun 8 15:37:21 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Bruce Cockburn at Butchart Gardens Aug 14

Anyone who is in the Victoria area on 14 August should come out that evening to the beautiful Butchart Gardens for this special event. Bruce Cockburn is one of Canada's treasures and he will be playing in a magnificent setting outdoors. The Gardens itself is a place of beauty with its rose garden, Japanese garden and fountains. This should be a special evening.


Entered at Sat Jun 8 11:37:20 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Long Black Veil FX

Only The Band could take a song like LBV and make it danceable. They were really at the top of their game (performance wise) around this time - and this is the best version of that song I've heard.


Entered at Sat Jun 8 01:41:44 CEST 2013 from (97.81.222.55)

Posted by:

Jimmy Nelson

Web: My link

Subject: One of my favorite Richard Manuel vocals

The 'Across the Great Divide' series tackles one of my all-time favorite Richard Manuel vocals, and one of his most often forgotten ones, too ...


Entered at Fri Jun 7 19:39:44 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

John D: The book is called "Paul Simon: Still Crazy After All These Years". From the late '80s. As you can see at the link above, you can get it for a song online. Odd that it costs less to ship from UK to Cda than from the US. I always prefer ABEbooks.com because more of the dealers are domestic.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 19:25:55 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill M

Bill what is the actual title of the Patrick Humphries book? Trying to find it on line.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 18:05:02 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Listened to BEG's link, which led right into Richard singing, which reminded me of a thought I had last week while reading a biography by Patrick Humphries.

"Beginning gently with the vivid image of two old men, seated alone together like bookends, the song progresses ..." Coulda been talking about Robbie's "Rockin' Chair" rather than Paul Simons "Bookends". Humphries doesn't make the point at all, but his characterisation of "America", the song from the same S&G album, is certainly similar to what's been said about Big Brown, which I believe Robbie said could have been titled "America". Hmmm.

Later on in the book, Humphries goes off on an odd little tangent:

"Manfred Mann had a hit in 1968 with the engaging 'My Name Is Jack', written by one John Simon, who many rumoured was in fact Paul Simon. There are elements of Simon's writing style in the song, notably the line 'The Greta Garbo Home for wayward boys and girls', but there really was a John Simon and he had in fact co-produced a number of songs on 'Bookends'! Our Mr Siomon made one of his rare guest appearances on an album when, in 1968, he appeared on the double album, 'The Live Adventures Of Al Kooper and Mike Bloomfield'; the two former Dylan sidemen had recorded a slow, bluesy version of 'Feelin' Groovy' which Simon enjoyed, and he went into the studio to add his own harmonies."

If only he'd noted John Simon's involvement with the Band, and the pre-Band in the basement tapes days, and that with Dylan vanting to be alone and with the dog Hamlet / Jack running around all the time, there are decent grounds for seeing Big Pink, the house, as the Greta Garbo Home for Wayward Boys (for sure) and Girls (one must assume).


Entered at Fri Jun 7 17:00:37 CEST 2013 from (184.144.111.124)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and Rick's outtake "Long Black Veil" from FX, but I think this one was previously posted.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 16:04:48 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Express

Loved the videos and thanks so much for posting them.Brings nice memories of when the movie was released to theaters and the wife and I brought our kids to see it.Everytime we took them to a R&R movie we rewarded the kids with their favorite basketball jerseys.Concert for George,A Hard Days Night,Festival Express-man,they have a lot of really cool jerseys.And,my younger boy,now in college,is a huge fan of Levon and he joined us at a whole bunch of rambles.His taste was most certainly influenced by the movies,and in addition to jerseys,he's gone on to become quite an accomplished hoops player!


Entered at Fri Jun 7 15:49:58 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Dylan SACDs

John D: Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab, under license from Columbia/Sony, has been reissuing many Dylan albums recently in both the SACD and vinyl formats. Not too long ago I mentioned the MoFi SACD version of The Basement Tapes here.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 15:25:54 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: digging a hole ...

Here's another follow-up to Landmark's note about great records that stiffed, "Dig A Hole" by the Hans Staymer Band. Among other things, I really like the banjo harmonics around 2:35-2:50. Since the whole album is at the link, you might also check out their version of "WS Walcott" at about 11:05 and the terrific "Mama Can't You Hear Me Calling" at 17:25.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 14:44:48 CEST 2013 from (184.144.111.124)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I can't find yet.....video of I Used To Walk On Water with Garth's keyboard playing which begins the song and continues throughout but here's Joseph Arthur's info and Black Flowers video with Garth on keyboards.
The video also shows him surrounded by his art work at one of his shows. I am soooo into his music and art. I can't believe I didn't know about him all these years and it was only by fluke I found him with FISTFUL OF MERCY....Unbelievable as I'm so drawn to amazing singer songwriters.....He's only 42 and has said in one interview that it's not an option to use anymore.....Here's hoping Arthur.....One minute of each day at a time.....


Entered at Fri Jun 7 14:20:13 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jerry Hahn Brotherhood / Dylan Re-Masters

You're so right David. Sitting next to me is that mint piece of vinyl. I burnt it to CD, knowing it will probably never see the light of day on CD. By the way, regarding those Dylan re-masters on Amazon. Talked to a friend of mine at Sony Canada yesterday and those re-issues don't even show up; in their catalog. The reason is probably that they are imports and it's up to the discretion of Sony Canada to choose which imports to release here. He agreed they would be great to put out.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 14:19:46 CEST 2013 from (184.144.111.124)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you Adam for the Levon and Garth outtakes at FX. We're all insatiable for any videos as they didn't tour extensively.

Speaking of Garth Jan H....If you're still updating on your site....You'll need to add Garth's latest contribution to his discography section.

I received yesterday JOSEPH ARTHUR's CD THE BALLAD OF BOOGIE CHRIST and GARTH HUDSON'S keyboard playing has the perfect feel (few years ago taped) with Joe's singing and lyrics of "I Used To Know How To Walk On Water".
Ben Harper adds his magic at the end of the song as well with added backing vocals and.....unexpected trumpet playing by John "Scrapper" Sneider....Beautiful collaboration by all!!!!!
It's one of my favourite songs so far as I've already played it many times and continue to find more beauty each time I play this song......
Garth also is on keyboards on "Black Flowers".


Entered at Fri Jun 7 14:12:14 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Thank you Adam

Thank you for those links Adam. I was at the Festival Express; in Toronto. Quite a night. Crowds of kids tried to knock down a large gate to get in for free and the police; on horseback charged into the crowd to keep control. I remember these kids throwing all sorts of debris at the horses. Not the best moment of the night; but the Band were great!


Entered at Fri Jun 7 12:56:12 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jemima Surrender

Classic stuff … lovely floppy drumming from Richard and piano from Garth too. Great to see it. I still wonder why the 90s Band never did it … Levon co-composition, interest in switching to guitar … as he did to bass.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 12:05:36 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.85)

Posted by:

Adam

Here is another clip Historic Films has released, from their future "Festival Express" release...

The Genetic Method / Chest Fever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvcdo5rK2So&list=HL1370599292&feature=mh_lolz

Jemima Surrender – Levon on guitar (wide shot) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM4-T83_WOA

Jemima Surrender – close up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMuScXgc9Ls

The two clips of Jemima are actually from different shows, explaining the difference in audio. The full shot is from the final show in Calgary, and the close up is from the first show in Toronto.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 10:25:27 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.85)

Posted by:

Adam

Thanks guys. This is unbelievable! Material of The Band at Festival Express being released is a monumental event. I have always been so blown away by their performances on that tour, and it's such important documentation that so much of their sets were filmed. It's said that The Band had more footage survive than any other act. With this upcoming release, and the "Rock Of Ages" deluxe edition, Band fans have a lot to look forward to coming up. And it's about time they were properly represented again with quality archival releases. The Stones, McCartney, Springsteen, etc., have set a new standard with these super deluxe editions.

Pat, really cool to see Levon with the SG. It's a great combination for rhythm guitar with Robbie's Tele.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 06:35:42 CEST 2013 from (146.171.254.97)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

Subject: wrong link

The Weight - Pittsburgh 1970


Entered at Fri Jun 7 06:29:26 CEST 2013 from (146.171.254.97)

Posted by:

Rod

Web: My link

Subject: Jemima Surrender

great video Adam. Never seen a vid of Levon playing guitar before. He looks a bit like Dave Rawlings there. I haven't seen this video before either.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 02:03:14 CEST 2013 from (108.195.5.166)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Festival Express

Great find Adam. Thanks for the heads-up.

Intereresting that the sound is somewhat better on the close-up clip as compared to the wider shot. Much more clear and present. I would think that both clips would have the same audio source. But this is encouraging. Can't wait to see what else surfaces. Right at the end of one of the clips, you can hear a couple of lines from 'The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down'. That would be awesome to see and hear.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 01:31:19 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Adam, we may now know where the SG Dylan and RR played on ROA came from.


Entered at Fri Jun 7 01:23:30 CEST 2013 from (216.193.165.93)

Posted by:

Little Brøther

Location: The Guestbook Archives

Subject: Early '60s Remote Control

The concept of "off-topic" doesn't really apply here, but I will admit that it's a bit silly to pop out of the GB Archives just to comment on Kevin J's remote control post(s) from the other day. That said, I can't resist, so:

When I was 6 or 7 years old (c. 1964, give or take a couple of years), I went with my parents to visit an uncle we didn't see very often. He must have had a Zenith TV, because it had the first remote control I'd ever seen

Of course, I was fascinated by it.

I'm pretty sure it was wireless. It was huge; I had to use both hands to hold it.

What I remember most is that it operated by mechanically changing the channels; when you pressed the button, you would hear a loud "thunk-thunk-thunk" and the channel-selector dial on the TV would turn accordingly.

It was mesmerizing. We now return to your regular programming.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 23:14:27 CEST 2013 from (99.140.171.85)

Posted by:

Adam

“ANOTHER TANTALIZING EXCERPT OF THE BAND'S PERFORMANCE AT FESTIVAL EXPRESS IN JULY OF 1970. LOOK OUT FOR THE RE-RELEASE OF THE FILM WITH TONS OF NEW EXTRAS COMING LATER THIS YEAR OR EARLY 2014.”

“Jemima Surrender” – Levon on guitar (wide shot)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM4-T83_WOA

“Jemima Surrender” – close up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMuScXgc9Ls

Sign the petition to get this released in 2013!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/release-the-band-festival-express-live-in/


Entered at Thu Jun 6 22:10:21 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Mike Finnigan

Mention of the soulful Mike Finnigan brings to mind another overlooked gem he recorded as a member of the Jerry Hahn Brotherhood, the self-titled 1970 LP released by Columbia.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 21:37:05 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Peter V: No foolin! Simon Caine's bassist was Dennis Pendrith, whose name you'll see if you click See More in YouTube. He was and is one of the very best around. While the group Simon Caine could be seen as having simply evolved from a little band from Willowdale (Simon Caine and the Catch), that would be considerable understating Pendrith's pedigree. By 1970 he'd already passed through several of the storied (and talent-filled) Toronto bands - Luke and the Apostles, Livingston's Journey, the Gnu (Ugly Duckings) and Olivus. The latter was the new name for the Flying Circus, which was essentially Rick James's new Mynah Birds minus Rick and plus Bruce Cockburn (as per a long post from a couple weeks ago); Dennis took over for Neil Merryweather when Neil decided to return to his old buddy Ed Roth (see ditto). Anyway, when Olivus split, Pendrith went with Cockburn into a new version of Three's A Crowd, and when Cockburn went solo, Pendrith was at his side - for at least the first half-dozen albums, as well as most of the '70s stuff by Murray MacLauchlan and David Wiffen.

As a result of the GB's recent focus on the Hammond organ, I've been listening a lot to "2B3: The Toronto Sessions", with Bill Payne, Richard Bell, Doug Riley, Michael Fonfara, et al. Richie Hayward on drums and Dennis Pendrith on bass, always solid, often great, sometimes spectacular.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 22:00:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jemima Surrender

Looking in the iTunes store reminded me that I wanted to check out Jemima Surrender by Fight The Big Bull, which is an earlier Matthew E. White band. I only did the sample bit but it's a really bizarre version. It's on various sample sites.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 21:50:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Fabulous version by Mike Finnigan … not on iTunes UK either, I went straight to look for it. While looking for it, I found the Lucinda Williams version, which led me to "Quiet About It: A Tribute To Jesse Winchester" which has James Taylor on Payday, Elvis Costello on the title track. Worth investigating.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 21:43:08 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Vinyl Siding: Underappreciated Gems

Digging deep into the record crates, a couple of overlooked gems immediately come to mind:

HAPPY & ARTIE TRAUM self-titled 1969 Capitol LP
features "Going Down the Road to See Bessie"

LIGHT OF THE NIGHT -- Randall Bramblett 1976 Polydor LP
features the funky "King Grand" with Allen Toussaint on piano (see link)
Randall later re-recorded the song as a member of Sea Level with Chuck Leavell


Entered at Thu Jun 6 21:31:44 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Mike Finnigan

I bought his solo album as a Japanese import years ago. He of course has played Hammond B3 behind just about everybody; including CSNY and Bob Dylan. The link above is his version of Jesse Winchester's Mississippi Your On My Mind. The other track is I love from that album is Southern Lady, a duet; with Maria Muldaur.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 21:30:02 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 500 Lost Gems of the Sixties

There is a book … 500 Lost Gems of the Sixties by Kingsley Abbott. The content is excellent, and everything is copiously illustrated too. He was going to go on to do the 70s and 80s singles, then another set on albums. They aren't on amazon.co.uk and I checked the lost gems.co.uk website and it doesn't look as if the series ever happened. The first book is excellent.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 21:19:27 CEST 2013 from (174.116.172.227)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: The underappreciated album

The discussion surrounding songs and albums which failed to make an impact but are perceived to be of high worth and quality suggests that thoses with lots of knowledge (Bill M) and experience (John D) might consider doing research and writing a book on the subject. We all have albums and music that somehow we found and appreciate that no one else knows about. These albums sat in record bins for years at 99 cents or less but now with those kinds of record stores closing (less 'collectors' stores around now though in Toronto we still have a few), that music is harder to find. I think the idea that this GBs knowledgeable people list work like this here is a great idea. I'd love to know what I've missed (I bet its considerable). So, I for one say "Keep it up". Lets see some lists and reasons why.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 20:56:31 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Simon Caine is another RCA one … and like Forevermore has a great bass sound. The bass player isn't credited on YouTube either.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 20:53:36 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Forevermore

Bill … I now remember them saying that the "Yours" album had sold better in Canada than anywhere else. It's very obscure in Britain, though it's the pre-band to the AWB.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 19:54:14 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Peter V: Thanks for posting the Forever More cut. Still great to hear. John D and/or his colleagues at CHUM-FM played one or two other cuts from the album in the early '70s, and I remember being pleased to find it on the delete rack at the Radio Shack around the corner in '73 (when we'd just moved next door to a Manuel cousin). I found the Jim Messina and the Jesters LP on Audio Fidelity in the same rack. And also the Simon Caine LP, with any number of songs that would count as neglected gems - to me if not Landmark. One's at the link - quite Bandish I realise now.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 19:52:54 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Northern Boy

Happy Birthday!


Entered at Thu Jun 6 19:52:20 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

John D: I got my copy of Greatest Hits Vol. II for just under $40 from Amazon. As a 2-disc set, $20 per disc is fairly reasonable for a SACD. The individual Dylan SACD albums from Mobile Fidelity, in contrast, are pricier.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 18:21:39 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: David P and Dylan

After searching out the item you just mentioned, I can't believe what I have missed over the past year. Freewheeling, Bringing it All Back Home, Blood On The Tracks and the Basement Tapes, all released on Hybrid SACD. Can't believe I missed those. The greatest hits vol II is $50.00 American. Might have to take these slowly :-)


Entered at Thu Jun 6 17:36:32 CEST 2013 from (50.101.57.10)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For those of you who know Northern Boy....It's his BIRTHDAY TODAY!


Entered at Thu Jun 6 16:15:06 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: A Cat's Meow & a Cow's Moo

This week I've been listening to the new hybrid-SACD version of "Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II", a great sounding 2-disc set just released by Audio Fidelity. Two Band-related highlights include the live Isle of Wight version of "The Mighty Quinn (Quinn the Eskimo)" and "When I Paint My Masterpiece." The loose, rollicking romp of the former, with Robbie's biting solo, shines like never before. And Dylan's take on the latter, recorded in March 1971, features the all-star cast of Leon Russell, Jesse Ed Davis, Carl Radle, Jim Keltner and Don Preston, who also lend a hand on "Watching the River Flow." The sonics on this reissue are stunning at times, casting these familiar tunes in the warm glow of digital sound remastered with care.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 16:14:11 CEST 2013 from (50.101.57.10)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and most current and present Joseph Arthur..."SAINT OF IMPOSSIBLE CAUSES"!
His latest CD "THE BALLAD OF BOOGIE CHRIST" is in the mail!!!!!


Entered at Thu Jun 6 16:02:59 CEST 2013 from (50.101.57.10)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

dlew919...Looking forward to checking out your blog. Wow....You even taught reasoning......No wonder you appear to be one of the least combative and pleasant members here! ;-D

I Miss The Zoo...Joseph Arthur...I'll be receiving his poetry book of the same title soon. Can't wait!!!!!
I also have one of Jim Carroll's poetry books signed...._The Book Of Nods_. I have no idea how my brother gave me that one as a gift.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 15:54:14 CEST 2013 from (50.101.57.10)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I think Gregory Abbott started out in the financial world and then came up with this one smooooth, sexy song.
Another one would be Roy Hill for non-Brits. I have the LP...."Join Me" and "Liner To Tangiers" were favourites in 1978.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 14:51:31 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: a non-controversial blog entry...

and for those who ever wondered what I look like, there I am. And that's a JBovier ELS solidbody mandolin I'm holding...


Entered at Thu Jun 6 14:47:39 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Serenity! How could I have missed it!

Happy Birthday!


Entered at Thu Jun 6 14:42:37 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Beautiful Afternoon

My first shot is "Beautiful Afternoon" by Forever More which Dunc knows. 1970. It should have been a huge hit, but RCA in Britain had the knack of failing to promote so much good stuff around then … a year later David Bowie woke them up.

The other that came to mind is "Try Again" by Supertramp, 1970, but that's not been YouTubed so you'd have to sample it on iTunes or Lost FM.

Just thought … I heard both these live on successive days in 1970!


Entered at Thu Jun 6 13:47:19 CEST 2013 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal
Web: My link

Last night, I had dinner with an old friend. Over the course of the evening, we discussed old favourite songs of ours that no one else seemed to know. I've posted one that I always liked that never went anywhere. Especially odd when you study the pedigree of these guys.

Let me know what you think or post similar songs that you loved that no one else knew. I'm sure Peter will happily join in on this one.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 13:08:34 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Serenity

You remember Ken Griffin? All this time I thought you were about 19 years old. :-)


Entered at Thu Jun 6 11:19:07 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Digital (lack) of economy

Just got this article sent me from yesterday's Guardian … it quotes Barney Hoskyns, but that's incidental. It's on the world where "Kodak used to have 140,000 employees. Instagram has 13." It came to me from a writer's group, but it applies just as much to musicians, photographers, journalists.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 04:27:36 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.233)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Another Youngblood

Lonnie Youngblood is a regular who stops in the club to listen. First time i saw him perform was last night. the man is a fine singer- also a saxophonist. Hendrix not only bacxked him up, but also hired him for work that appeared on what i tihnk was the last release of hendrix studio recordings - see the link.



Entered at Thu Jun 6 03:58:45 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Paris Jackson

Report: Paris Jackson Hospitalized After Suicide Attempt

Mother says Michael Jackson's daughter has 'a lot going on' June 5, 2013 2:25 PM ET

Paris Jackson

Michael Jackson's daughter Paris was reportedly rushed to the hospital late last night after a suicide attempt. Jackon's mother, Debbie Rowe, confirmed the news to Entertainment Tonight, saying the 15-year-old has had "a lot going on" recently.

Los Angeles County fire officials say they received a 911 call reporting an overdose at 1:15 a.m. PST. Jackson is also said to have had cuts on her wrists. She was taken to a Los Angeles-area hospital.

Paris Jackson Gives First Solo Interview

The reasons behind Jackson's supposed suicide attempt are unknown, but a source close to the family speculated that one reason may be that the she wasn't allowed to attend a Marilyn Manson concert scheduled for June 6th at Gibson Amphitheater.

Jackson tweeted lyrics from "Yesterday" by the Beatles last night: "Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away / Now it looks as though they're here to stay," though many song lyrics appear in the teen's Twitter feed.

June 25th will mark the fourth anniversary of her father's death. Paris Jackson's grandmother, Katherine Jackson, is currently in the middle of a civil trial over a wrongful death suit she filed against the concert promoter AEG Live.

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Cya soon xoxoxo


Entered at Thu Jun 6 03:50:58 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Thanx, guys for all the postings

BEG: Thanx for the wishes. It was a wonderfull day.. You are sooo funny..I'll bet the poem/song was for our Norm in BC?

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NORM: Be careful and hope things go well on your trip..

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PETER and the rest of you posters? Thanks to you for all the reading..Not finished yet, but enjoying every one of them..

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JOHN D: I remember Ken Griffin and his, "You, You, You" very well. I,too, remember The Ames Bros. as they were faves of mine..

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I heard something today on "The Doctors" TV show I didn't know..They had the deaths of celebs which was very interesting.. It was on Bob Marley's death.. If he would have listened to his doctor, he wouldn't have died. He had melanoma under his big toe, and the dr. told him to amputate it, but he refused. Therefore the cancer went through his body to his brain, and that's what killed him..

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Leave it to mau to bring sad news..Michael Jackson's daughter, Paris "tried" to commit suicide early this morning.

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Until next time PEACE AND LOVE xoxoxo


Entered at Thu Jun 6 01:56:47 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Man, that is so good to know.


Entered at Thu Jun 6 01:19:20 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.233)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Stuffing

David, a few months back, Stuff did perform one of those Georgia songs... Midnight Train to Georgia, and Gaffney was mercurial on guitar, Bennet saing it purty. Whole band was outa this world. this band does the original justice, no joke. Not every song every night, but at least part of every song every night.But even on thise not perfect nights, when they catch, then it's on. seen em over half a dozen times in just over three months , and never been disappointed at all. the mjority of the showsd been off the chain from the get go. John D. - SG is Levon thin.Still wouldn't suggest anyone fuck with him. Could probably hurt ya real bad if he needed to.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 19:09:12 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norm

Wishing you blue skies and calm seas, Take care.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 19:07:19 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Stuff

Stuff was a great group. Sadly, guitarists Cornell Dupree & Eric Gale and keyboardist Richard Tee are no longer with us, but live on in their music. Who can forget Mr. Dupree's graceful licks on Brook Benton's cover of Tony Joe White's "Rainy Night in Georgia."


Entered at Wed Jun 5 18:13:40 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Rockin' C: Kevin and I wish to update you following our delightful champagne brunch earlier today. The truth is that they started out as five-man bands, but the singers, guitarists and bassists(!) all ran away with the better-looking strippers. This explains a lot, don't you think?


Entered at Wed Jun 5 17:55:56 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

After watching some bits from the Tarrytown show, it's pretty obvious Garth's band gig keyboard of choice remains (and has been for a long time) his synth rig.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 15:17:08 CEST 2013 from (76.68.50.64)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Not sure when in the mid-late seventies I saw Santana but they either performed this song or Samba Pati......two of many favourites.

Santana always says Long Live Coltrane!

I say Long Live Santana!


Entered at Wed Jun 5 15:03:19 CEST 2013 from (76.68.50.64)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

......and Santana's Persuasion with the original line up!!! Greg Rolie singing and playing Hammond organ, the very young Mike Shrieve and Sheila E's Dad on percussion.

Eric Clapton!.......Ask Carlos to play guitar at your next Festival!!! Eric did however, say there may not be anymore.......
Santana's band just like The Band and every other band who started out together....If they had a special thing going.......once one member left.......magic gone!


Entered at Wed Jun 5 14:54:04 CEST 2013 from (76.68.50.64)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth Hudson, The Band, Lowery, and other trivia

Thanks so much John D! I loved the Rascals' show so much that I may go again!!

You're welcome Kevin J! I had no idea that it was only two musicians. I only heard Leeeee Michaels on 8-track so what did I know then? Not much...

I guess I'm back to singin'.... ;-D

I ain't gonna work on Westie's tug no more
No, I aint gonna work on Westie's tug no more
Well, I wake up in the morning
Fold my hands and pray for rain
I got a head full of ideas
That are drivin' me insane
It's a shame the way he makes me scrub the floor

I ain't gonna work on Westie's tug no more.
I ain't gonna work on Westie's tug no more
I aint gonna work on Westie's tug no more

Well, I try my best
To be just like I am
But everybody wants you
To be just like them
They say sing while you slave and I just get bored
I ain't gonna work on Westie's tug no more.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 13:26:03 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Stuff

Billy C. What a night. I always loved Stuff. Hell, just to be in a room with Steve Gadd would make me happy. Good for you. Mr. Gadd will be here in Toronto at the end of the month for the Toronto Jazz Festival. I'm glad Gordon Edwards has kept the spirit alive.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 10:05:44 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Garth's keyboards

I don't know much about keyboards but I reckon Garth always looked good behind the Lowrey (even if you could only see his head) and a bit exposed behind the modern "controllers". The new technology has made the keyboardists life a lot easier but those big rigs sure looked cool.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 09:53:05 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.233)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Stuff. just Stuff.

Stuff blew the off the jpoint tonight. Packed bout a hundred into a small room and another 50 to 100 in the bar and lounge areas.

James Allen Smith, the keyboardist has been in the hospital, and tonight, their usual night, became a fundraiser for him. 8 oclock start, as opposed to 10.

the sound of Gordon Edwards bass always makes me exceedingly happy. I mean really makes me happy. Whatever was going on, it had some extra special something tonight - he and Jimmy go back over 40 years. The rest of the band Mick Gaffney on guitar, Clint DeGanon drums, Roy Bennet , bass when Gordon sits, vocals, when they have em, the amazing Alex Foster on saxes, scorched, and from the beginning they had another sax player, who plays with them occasionally, LEon Pendarvis on B3 (musical director of The Blues Brothers and Saturday night Live), and another killer piano player, whose name escapes me. All, as exceptional as can be, and all burning. Pendarvis is one of those rare players... Thorugh the course of the night, Jonny Rosch, the x player, Leon, Mel Davis, and one more guy, traded places between the two keyboards. Other horn players joined, trombones, trumpets, some voclaists sang, including a woman named Ella, who had to be pushing 80 but did Take The A Train and scat sang like nobody's businass, had everyone delerious, Freddy harris and( a serious badass)and Gary seeger took up the guitars for while, and Freeddie Harris Jr played some wild shit on a steel drum kit.

The music went non stop fro 8 till 12:30, and when i say Baaad, i mean Baaad!As baad as it gets.

Steve Gadd (he and Chris Paker being the original drummers), his wife, and son, watched the first set. this was some of NY's finest players coming otu and helping one of their own.

the sound of Gordon Edwards bass still got me fucked up. The sounds are leaving too fast, and when you get ear to amp with the guys that sound so damn good, it so damn beautiful, but then when you realize it; scoming to an end,it's a bitch.

oh- how could i forget? Bernard Burdie, another guy who goes back 45 years with Jimmy Allen Amith, was there all night. As was Stanley banks, who comes and plays occassionally. Both Purdy and BAnks carried the bucket through the crowd personally gathering money for Jimmy. Purdy plyed twice, maybe about 40 minutes all together, and got up and danced for about ten minutes- All alone, in front of the stage. i mean really hoofed it. and he ain't no youngster. . stanley banks plyed bass a few times, probably about an hour and half. Stanley has been with George benson for a very long time.

Kevin- hardly anyone lfet before the end tonight. that does have soemthign to do with the ealry ending, but, noone was leaviung this show.Cause it was for Jimmy, and cause of the music and the amount of badasses in the joint.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 05:13:53 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Oh Norm......the principle of 'noblesse oblige' prevents me from going too far in explaining how Bill M and I plan to spend the next three days discussing the origins of two man bands and strip clubs interupted only by tea breaks for caviar and biscuits.......we will be thinking of you though!..........travel safely dear friend.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 05:03:25 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.91)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Would Linda Ronstadt be descended from the same TexMex Germans that introduced the accordion to that part of the world?


Entered at Wed Jun 5 04:54:42 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

Lars

NORM- When you get out to sea, take a deep breath of that clean, salty air and see if you can clear out the cobwebs. Be careful.


Entered at Wed Jun 5 02:13:38 CEST 2013 from (101.164.0.90)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Norm: dont' go too long

I can't guarantee the food nad beer will still be here when you get back ;) Be safe!(of course, you can always have my beer: I don't drink the stuff)


Entered at Wed Jun 5 01:25:22 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: People try to put us d-down!

You all sound like a bunch of old fuddy-duddys! I heard that brown eyed girl is one of those Tranna Harlots!

Now a while back I told you how I had to tow that gawd damn old ferry boat turned into a logging camp....big pig of a thing. I got home for one day from another job. I got to leave tomorrow morning and move that gawd damn pig again. I have to tow it half way down BC.

I really am tired of this shit..........I was only kidding Angelina. I'm onery.......Y'all sit around here chatting away and having fun......I got to go out there an' work my ass off.....I got none of it left......tired of this bullshit.

I should be rich like that gawd damn JT.........I guess I'm just not smart enough.......oh well.........


Entered at Tue Jun 4 21:00:57 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG / The Rascals

Hey BEG! The Rascals will be at the Royal Alex, Aug 13-25th. This is the play written by Steve Van Zandt. Tickets on sale June 15th.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 20:14:12 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

Kevin J: Organ+drums wasn't an uncommon lineup back then, perhaps emerging from strip clubs (like the Warwick and the Zanzibar here). Teegarten and Van Winkle and the Mike Quatro Jam Band come to mind. A really good pair called God and Eye played an afternoon set in my highschool gym in '70 or '71; I never heard of them again, but would love to know more if you have.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 20:10:36 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Country Music South of the Border

The genre of music known as conjunto features the diatonic accordion, along with the bajo sexto (Mexican 12-string guitar), electric bass and drums. One of the leading conjunto artists, accordionist Flaco Jimenez, has often described it as "Mexican hillbilly music." Many years ago, Germans who settled in South Texas and Mexico introduced the accordion.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 19:03:57 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Stan Rogers

Hard to believe it's been 30 years.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 18:43:29 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: BEG

What a link.......and ladies and gentlemen.....that's how The White Stripes were born....wow!


Entered at Tue Jun 4 18:30:21 CEST 2013 from (184.144.109.120)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and here they actually are together....
"Lee Michaels recorded and performed with just one other musician, a powerhouse drummer by the name of “Frosty” (Bartholomew Eugene Smith-Frost). The sonics they produced were amazing for a two person ensemble."


Entered at Tue Jun 4 18:20:24 CEST 2013 from (184.144.109.120)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sorry John D....I forgot to say that I had not seen that you also posted Leeeeee Michaels singing "DYKWIM". Here's the cut I really meant to post so that we can see him actually play. I always loved that he includes his own name in the song and his signature....."oooh's".


Entered at Tue Jun 4 18:10:10 CEST 2013 from (184.144.109.120)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jon Lord talks about his Hammond organ sound.

Thank you for sharing John D. One of the reasons I like Mink Deville's band is that the keyboard player would play accordion and a concertina at times. :-D

One of the memorable, magical moments from the school which I will be leaving this fall was when a student called the school and asked for me to come to the phone. I picked up the phone and he.....Sang the chorus of Harry Belafonte's "Angelina"
"Angelina, Angelina, please bring down your concertina
And play a welcome for me 'cause I'll be coming home from sea"


Entered at Tue Jun 4 17:58:59 CEST 2013 from (131.137.247.6)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Garth's two-step

David P: Thanks for that reminder; great, great track.

I love Mr. H's zydeco 'On a Night Like This.'
Naturally, the original is not on YouTube, but this is a pretty decent cover . . . .


Entered at Tue Jun 4 17:51:36 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

It's not such a well known fact that Garth played the accordion before he played organ. I think he liked the Lowrey more than the Hammond because the Lowrey sounded more like it was pushing air.

Adam, hard to say what is the industry standard anymore. The B3 jazz genius Joey deFrancesco uses a clonewheel now. Both the B3 and Garth Lowrey's weighed about the same, but the B3 was indestructible. There are remarkable B3 survival stories that have become minor epics.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 17:11:12 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Roux the Day

For a spicy dose of cajun flavor, check out Emmylou Harris' great cover version of Rodney Crowell's "Leaving Lousianna in the Broad Daylight" (from her 1978 album "Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town"). It features Garth on accordion and Rick on fiddle & background vocals.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 16:10:33 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Birth of Robin Hood

You'll want to hear them doing a vocal as well. This is "The Birth of Robin Hood" when they switch to guitar and concertina (instead of melodeon and fiddle). This is live, and the more polished version on iTunes from "The Works" album adds more musicians including Eliza Carthy on backing vocals. This song, ancient as it is, is my most-played of the last month.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 16:03:57 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

John D, you might enjoy checking out Johnny Spiers of Spiers & Boden. The link goes to "Gooseberry Bush" live. Stay till Jon Boden comes in on fiddle for Laudanum Bunches. Johnny Spiers has four beautiful antique melodeons on stage, and is a masterly player. If you check I-tunes, the versions on "The Works" album are often more elaborate remakes of earlier versions. Prickle-Eye Bush is a good one to try. The instrumentals are all stunning (try The Cheshire Waltz) … they vary, but they're usually melodeon plus fiddle. I had a brief chat about accordion jokes in the interval (having seen a T-shirt with one earlier in the day) and mentioned that Garth knew lots of them … he told us a few in 1999 at The Forum.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 14:41:55 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Hohner Accordion Symphony Orchestra on Amazon. Garth and I discussed them years ago and he was very aware of the orchestra.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 14:34:41 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Melodeon / Diatonic Accordion

This may be the one site that no one will snicker at me for playing the accordion. I played accordion for years. In fact, I played in an Accordion quintet and an accordion orchestra. The orchestra and the quintet played classical music. In fact you should hear the Hohner Accordion Orchestra perform the William Tell. As we did, they use electronic accordions as well. In the orchestra I played what is called a "bass" accordion. That means there are no buttons on the left and the keyboard is tuned like a bass guitar. So I was playing all the bass notes amplified. So much for me.

My point is that the piano accordion is not difficult to master; but the melodeon; or as I've always called it, the diatonic accordion is difficult. This is the accordion of choice for the music of Louisiana. The biggest difference is that you always have to remember; which way the bellows are moving. Are you taking the bellows out; or in. Why? Here comes the memory hard part. Depending on which way you are moving the bellows, the note changes key! That's why you really have to know what you are doing. I almost bought one; while in Eunice Louisiana; from Marc Savoy of the famous Savoy family; but the thought of learning it made be uneasy. Even today, I can play right hand on the accordion; or other keyboards; but the left one......well that's another story. Thanks for reading and thanks to Garth; because on this site there are no polka jokes :-)


Entered at Tue Jun 4 10:26:32 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

A story Pat knows already. Back in 1970, a friend wanted to split his Hammond L100 for transportation, and asked me to assist. It's an easy enough job technically, though somewhat monotonous. You get two great big multiple connector blocks, and snip and solder one coloured wire at a time. He needed an assistant to hold the wires while he soldered, and my hands still bear the scars. My friend had the necessary confidence to apply a saw to the side of a Hammond and start cutting. It worked so well on completion, that we decided we had a business opportunity going. L100s were particularly popular with bands (Keith Emerson used one) because two people could carry it without hernias, and you could even get it in the back of a standard estate car (station wagon).

Anyway, we were commissioned to split a larger Hammond, I think it was a C3 rather than a B3, and we accepted thinking it was just a few more wires to cut and solder. It was a nightmare … the soldering wasn't the problem. The issue was that the weight was not evenly distributed and that the bottom half of the organ immediately collapsed once we'd sawed through it, not being as well-balanced and rigid as the L-100. Of course the collapse disconnected a bunch of wires. We had to start again. We were awake for two days continually doing that job as the band were about to go on the road, and as I've mentioned before, we were in a room with one record player and just the one LP, Bridge Over Troubled Water, which we left on replay. Having decided the business was not viable, we donated the soldering iron after the job, suspecting (rightly) that they might need to use it again from time to time. I worked with them a few months later, and used it a few times myself. I will say I saw that organ on stage several years after that, and it was still working, though somewhat frayed along the joins.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 09:11:12 CEST 2013 from (75.34.40.178)

Posted by:

Adam

Pat - you are right of course, Garth always used a Lowrey with the original quintet, and even before with the Hawks. I think Peter V is right when he lists that variety of reasons Garth might use the Hammond nowadays. It's surely the industry standard, Levon Helm Studios always has one ready and I'm sure the ease of availability/transport, compared to other instruments at least, would be easier.

But didn't Garth also use a Hammond organ on The Band's final recording - "One Too Many Mornings" in 1999?


Entered at Tue Jun 4 08:35:46 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

When I was trying to get every session Garth played on, I noticed a number of Hammond B3 references. I put it down simply to transport. If someone wants you to travel to a session, taking a Lowrey eats considerably into your session fee in transportation costs, and studios may have house Hammond B3s already there. Similarly, if you’re playing on a few songs in longer show, it would be more convenient to utilise the Hammond that’s already there. While the B3 has a definite Hammond “sound” when played like Georgie Fame, who on stage always makes the Hammond sound like a Hammond, there are other players who pull much more varied sounds out of its huge range, something which to Garth would be child’s play.

The discussion on the Lowrey rang bells for me when he mentioned the melodeon sound (button accordion). I’ve been immersing myself in English new folk recently and watching Bellowhead, Spiers & Boden and Fay Hield, I’ve been struck by the difference melodeons, concertinas and fiddles make to the overall sound. Bellowhead also use a helicon (think curly tuba) for the bass line. This means sounds elide, and also there’s an underlying drone effect which is something fixed interval instruments with keys and frets don’t get in the same way. It fits English music where there is so often an extended wavering note in the singing, an influence that goes right through from early folk to why English prog sounds distinctive. Scottish bands of the jigs and reel era also used concertinas and melodeons when they couldn’t use bagpipes. Reading about the Lowrey, and then adding Rick’s fretless bass era connected.

On this English new folk, can I recommend a project I’m only two twelfths into? In 2010, Jon Boden (of Bellowhead) announced his “Folk Song A Day” project, when he set out to record 365 folk songs in a year, at one a day. Many are unaccompanied, or have one instrument … often fiddle or concertina. The aim was to create an archive of folk song from his extensive research into traditional songs, and some are solo versions of songs Bellowhead or Spiers and Boden did. Some are classics like Wild Mountain Thyme, and Big Rock Candy Mountain. Most are obscure. You can only buy them as downloads, either a song at a time, or a very reasonable £7.99 for a month, with 30 or 31 seasonally selected songs. I’m downloading a month at a time … otherwise it would be an indigestible feast, and have enjoyed May and just started on June. They’re on iTunes (UK at least) and amazon. I’ll go right through at one a month till next April.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 07:01:14 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Adam, Garth never played a B3 with the Band. He also played a Lowrey for quite some time before the Band existed.

The B3 is harmonically much more limited than the Festival, and Garth's Lowreys used tubes--lots of them--to create the organ harmonics, unlike B3s. Both organ types do use tubes in their preamps, and the Leslies also used tubes for amplification. Garth had his organs modified so he could overdrive the tubes in the preamp which introduced levels of distortion which he could control. The Lowrey also had a pitch bend on the volume pedal which Garth also modified. The Hammond does not have pitch bend, something Garth used a lot.

Garth was much more interested in synths beginning in the mid-70's and said goodby to the organ right around that same time. The tube based Lowreys are tough to take out on the road, and I would be curious as to the reasons he has used a B3 recently.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 03:01:08 CEST 2013 from (75.34.40.178)

Posted by:

Adam

Garth has played a Hammond B3 organ quite often in recent years. The “January 2012” Midnight Ramble (last performance w/ Levon), every one of the “Songs Of The Band” concerts (September 2012 at the Barn, November 2012 at the Keswick, April 2013 at Tarrytown), at “Love For Levon” and others.

In our interview published August 2012, Garth nicely explained some of the reasons he chose the Lowrey organ for his instrument. “One of the goals in orchestrating Band songs was to make the background or keyboard work somehow fit an era, or imply a certain life situation. Another of the goals was to give each song a different sound. Listen to the melodeon sound from the Lowrey organ, which you hear in 'Tears Of Rage'. For the first part of the piece, the Lowrey is soft, a pure sound, like a muffled flute with no vibrato in the background of the verse. In the chorus, it sounds like a melodeon or harmonium, an old pump organ, accordion like with a slow attack. The Hammond organ does not do this.”

I think the Hammond B3 organ, with Garth Hudson in control, is a beautiful combination. Of course, any instrument at all that Garth chooses to play is a beautiful combination. It is cool to see him play a Hammond, because he can get so many different sounds out of it. And he really does get tones and textures out of the instrument, recalling his classic Lowrey work, that would not be available to others. We actually did get to see Garth play on one of his Lowrey organs at the Tarrytown “Songs Of The Band” concert. It was not one of the large, horseshoe consoles from the original quintet. It was roughly the same size, layout and look of the Hammond B3 (also present), but the sound was unmistakable. That swirling, shaky, “expanding wild vine” sound with the pitch bend and everything!

After that concert, my father and I sat down to dinner with the Hudsons. It was a very intimate, beautiful experience that I really treasure so much. I asked Garth about his old horeshoe Lowrey organs, and discovered that his Lowrey H25 console from “The Last Waltz” is in the possession of the Rock Hall Of Fame… and they are not willing to give/sell the instrument back at a fair price for it’s owner. It has long been in my mind to organize some sort of initiative/fan support/fundraiser to get the iconic instrument from “The Last Waltz” back into Mr. Hudson’s care.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Somebody To Love

The other day, my father told me that he had always liked Jefferson Airplane doing the song 'Somebody To Love'. Really threw me for a loop, as my dad has never mentioned this before, and is a fairly buttoned-up straight laced traditional jazz fan. Never knew that he dug the San Francisco sound, although he has previously expressed a fondness for other Bay area alum, including CCR and some of the Grateful Dead music (Not the spacey jammy noodlely stuff), but still......my Dad? Summer of Love era music?? Never would have guessed it!

Next I'll be finding out that he's got a Hammond B3 hidden in the basement.


Entered at Tue Jun 4 00:53:32 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.81)

Posted by:

Bill M

PA Kev and BEG: You mean it's NOT fourteen days? Dlew might be the only other GBer who'd remember that Renee Geyer had a big hit in '82 with a remake of "You Know What I Mean". Great song, though I think "Carnival Of Life" is my favourite by Lee Michaels. The other great Quicksilver song of the Valente era was "What About Me" - though my recollection is that neither could touch the brilliant centrepiece of his solo LP on Epic.


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Posted by:

Kevin from Northeast PA

Subject: BEG

BEG - I always heard the same thing as you, "fourteen" and I always crank up "have another hit - of Fresh Air".


Entered at Tue Jun 4 00:15:11 CEST 2013 from (65.95.183.144)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

(Fresh Air) Have Another Hit...Quicksilver Messenger Service...I heard this band and Lee Michaels a lot at home as my older brother had good friends in Cali and would visit them in Laguna Beach so I guess that's why we had West Coast American music blaring at home...


Entered at Tue Jun 4 00:04:39 CEST 2013 from (65.95.183.144)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I would hear the music of American or British Rock of Louuu, Bowie, Rod the Mod, Uriah Heap, Freeee....or West Coast American Rock of Jefferson Airplane, Quicksilver Messenger Service via of my older brother's music collection....and this one...One of John D's fave and mine....Great grooooove.

"Been forty (*I always heard fourteen) days since I don't know when
I just saw her with my best friend
Do ya know what I mean?
Do ya know, know, know what I mean"


Entered at Mon Jun 3 23:05:29 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Hammond on Hammond

The credits on John Hammond's 1965 album "So Many Roads" list Eric Garth Hudson on Hammond organ.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 23:00:27 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Peter........One way or the other......the birth of a grandchild and/or seeing Simone Felice at effectively a private party......a most special summer it will be.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 22:13:29 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Garth (1983) on how often he played a B3: Here and there. Never owned one, though. When you play a Hammond organ, it sounds like a Hammond organ.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 21:15:54 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Does Garth even own a B3?


Entered at Mon Jun 3 20:21:43 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin, In this particular case, I hear he likes the venue and the promoter and it's a convenient run to the airport after his last gig. But you're right. This is a guy with the talent and charisma of (say) Neil Young in 1969 and someone would have promoted him hugely.


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Posted by:

David Marsh

Location: scunthorpe,north lincolnshire,united kingdom
Web: My link

Subject: Child abuse

Always supporting all those who expose this massive problem of "Child Abuse" in our communities,from all your friends at Tom Thumb and friends. Thank you.(Please Like).


Entered at Mon Jun 3 19:28:36 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

55 seats......yikes...let's hope Simon has not engaged the pricing guru's that surround Henley & Frey in an effort to maximize profit.........imagine that calculation? In terms of career ascension comparisons.....are we still feeling that next Neil Young vibe?

Bonk: Belated best wishes......I hope that you are feeling better.

BEG: Funny where a simple question about identifying an organ player can lead this place......bathing beauties and all.....wild! I knew the main bits about Hammond but so much I didn't know....I had assumed the old boy was a musician but alas no.....an example of a straight desire for profit mixing nicely with creativity........which brings us back to someone like Simone Felice who you wonder if in an earlier era could have been ruthlessly promoted by a big bad record company......and moved up and away from playing for just Peter and a few of his neighbors this far into his career.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 18:20:25 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Simone Felice

Thanks, Jon. Yes, we have tickets for Winchester, a 55-seater. The updates on his site never got through to us, but I happened to be in a secondhand record shop (a friend of mine) a few weeks ago when the venue phoned through to say they'd just booked him, so we got tickets instantly. But having seen the schedule, I might try earlier in the tour too … especially as my daughter is due to give birth the actual day we're seeing him in Winchester, which could mean last-minute cancellation.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 18:11:26 CEST 2013 from (68.185.20.94)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Happy Organ

I remember this one by Dave Baby Cortez. A double entendre title that hadn't occurred to me before -


Entered at Mon Jun 3 17:43:25 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Lee Michaels, killing it.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Chuck Leavell

Although Chuck Leavell is from Alabama, he and his wife Rose Lane own Charlane Plantation in Dry Branch, Georgia, near Macon. It contains over 2000 acres of forest land which also features a sustainable quail & deer hunting operation with a lodge.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 16:21:58 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: BEG/Billy

Thanks BEG-gotta find time later to listen. Billy-if not this life we may have met in another!LOL And the name Jed is pure fabrication so I'm not(directly) in the entertainment business.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 15:48:57 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon L

Location: NYC

Peter V, I imagine you're on this already but Simone Felice has a ton of UK tour dates through June and July. Hope you can make it...


Entered at Mon Jun 3 15:24:52 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Lee Michaels

I just checked a review of his album "5th"; which included the above link and it indeed says he plays Hammond and Pipe organ on the album. This track is definitely Pipe, I believe.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 15:18:49 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Lee Michaels

Always loved the organ in this one and it always sounded like a pipe organ to me.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 14:44:32 CEST 2013 from (64.231.179.124)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sorry, Hammond Organ Solos Parts 1-3 altogether here!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Pat B, Jed and myself, and all the other organ freaks on this site...Hammond Organ Solos - Part 1-3 beginning with ELP, Deeeeep Purple, Booker T playing the song I witnessed at Eric Clapton's Guitar Fest.......


Entered at Mon Jun 3 14:12:58 CEST 2013 from (64.231.179.124)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

You're welcome JD!

Procol Harum 'A Whiter Shade Of Pale' 1967


Entered at Mon Jun 3 13:36:03 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG

Thank you for your very kind words. Very much appreciated!


Entered at Mon Jun 3 10:39:16 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

thanks Peter - I'll try to remember that.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 10:09:16 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Hammonds

The first users of Hammonds in rock is a line of enquiry. It was used in R&B and jazz earlier, and you could argue Bill Doggett was rock way back in 1956, but one early user was Felix Cavaliere's predecessor in Joey Dee & The Starliters, Carlton Lattimore. I started Googling, and the references all fail to mention the two early British ones, Zoot Money, certainly using one by late 1961, and Georgie Fame, around the same time.

Looking up Joey Dee makes me think that one of those gigs you'd go back and visit in your rock & roll time machine, would be Joey Dee & The Starliters with The Ronettes joining them on dancing and vocals before Phil Spector spirited them away.

The pub quiz question that fools many is "What did Tommy Tucker play on Hi-Heel Sneakers?" The answer being organ.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 05:28:28 CEST 2013 from (67.71.1.129)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

.......and Jed I also saw the same week Felix Cavaliere on organ.....with The Rascals!!!!

Kevin J....It was very sweet of you to also wish Serenity a Happy Birthday as she is so kind to everyone on this site.
And I loved the video of Ethel Smith and The Bathing Beauties. Thank you! Thank you!


Entered at Mon Jun 3 05:10:36 CEST 2013 from (68.196.243.216)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Buddha/ Butter/________

Jed, i'd be surprised if you and i don't know each other or at least each other's faces. I don't know if Jed is your real name but there's only one yiden named Jed i know of and he is a heavyweight in the entertainment industry. In any event, in your backyard you have a wide assortment of seruious B3 players. Garth ofc ourse, being the buddha of the B3, but you also havce Jeremy baum and Pete Levin. Jeremy was amazing at 16, now he is all of 43. Pete Levin, is another master.All over the place still, I;m sure you'll have otrher vchances to see him play sooner, but June 27 Gabe Butterfield has his Butterfield Blues Band playing Bearsville, Levin,Jimmy Eppard, Jim Curtin on bass, Gabe on drums. Kal David joining during his yearly visit.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 04:42:25 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: You You You

Can't believe it. Gave up a few years back trying to find it and right after I posted I couldn't find it.....there it was. Took me back to my Grandparents playing it over and over again. Sounds like skating music now; but for some reason I have wonderful memories of it.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 04:33:45 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ken Griffin

When I was a boy Bill, my Grandfather had a 78 of Ken Griffin playing, "You You You." I loved it. I think the Ames Brothers did a vocal version of it. Pretty much impossible Griffin recording to find now. I've tried.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 04:30:08 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Thanks Pat

Thanks Pat B. By this site, it looks like it's Ries.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 04:27:49 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.87)

Posted by:

Bill M

To recap: There are two keyboardists - Chuck and The Other Guy (TOG). John wonders about TOG. Pat points to Stones' wiki, which lists Tim on horn and utlity keys. John says TOG is too big to be Tim. Pat points again to wiki, implicitly insisting that TOG is Tim. Bill suggests that TOG is the GB's MIA RtO.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 02:56:01 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

John D, here's the wiki link on the tour.


Entered at Mon Jun 3 02:49:51 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.86)

Posted by:

Bill M

Where is RtO? He'd have lots to say about organs and organists. I grew up with a Hammond-loving parent with a ton of Ken Griffin 78s from the '50s (and I suppose the '40s too). A steady stream of Klaus Wunderlich LPs came home in the late '60s. Always pretty women on the covers; shame about the music.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 23:46:01 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Ethel Smith & The Bathing Beauties

Thanks Pat......I really enjoyed that link on the history of the Hammond.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 22:26:45 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: BEG

Yup,I saw your posts about the crossroads show.In fact,I'm glad you mentioned Booker T since I should have included him amongst my favorites.Garth,I've had the privilege of seeing many times whether in 76 at the Palladium with The Band,in many reformed eras of The Band as well as numerous gigs,particularly those in the Woodstock area,with Levon or Rick at The Lake-sometimes with barely enough in he room to make a minyan(10 people)LOL. I cherished the time in the 80's and 90's when the fellas would pop into Lake,Tinker Street Cafe,Uncle Willie's,etc. to sit in with whoever was playing.Garth was a more rare sighting,but his sit ins with Levon and The Barnburners were lots of fun.Meeting and talking with Garth is also a special memory,albeit a unique experience.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 22:19:20 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Wiki

Sorry Pat. Don't see any name. Oh we'll, I guess it doesn't really matter in the end.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 21:57:58 CEST 2013 from (184.144.111.177)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Daryl Johnson!! Yes, I remember now why there was something about him that I couldn't shake.....I saw him and Emmylouuu's band on the same bill as Neil Young and Crazy Horse. He also did back up work for her on my favourite recording thanks to Daniel Lanois.....Wrecking Ball.

The most stylish musicians....The Band are included.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 20:33:58 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

John D, he's named on the wiki entry for the tour, if that means anything.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 20:13:05 CEST 2013 from (184.144.111.177)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

THE ROLLING STONES PROJECT WITH TIM RIES, BERNARD FOWLER, AND DARRYL JONES

Btw, John D...May I say that you have never looked better than when I last saw you at Hugh's Room for Levon Helm's Tribute. Also, your partner in life was stunning. There was something about her that I really liked. I guess when you meet someone you either feeeeel it or you don't.

Hey Jed...Did I tell you that I was at Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival and fianlly....witnessed the great Booker T on Hammond B organ?!!! I also saw Garth with the Dixie Hummingbirds playing the same organ in NYC!! Shhhh....I dig Pat B because he can play organ too.... :-D


Entered at Sun Jun 2 19:20:59 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: JT

I don't know JT. The orgasn player looks heavier than Ries. Damn doesn't someone have a program from the current Stones show; or do they not name the sidemen?


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:56:45 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: John D-Hammond Freak Here!

I am passionately in love with the sound of the Hammond B-3.While I'm primarily a bass and guitar player(quite a below average one at that!) I grew up playing the piano.My late parents were both superb musicians and we had this wonderful pump organ in our basement that I loved playing-it was as close as I'd ever get to a real cool organ.I have always been fascinated by the sound of the organ,and Garth,Jimmy Smith,Gregg Allman,Steve Winwood and others have been my personal favorites.I was interested to hear,on the you tube,that there was a portable B-3,which I'd love to hear in person to see if it is anything like the real thing.It sound good on the video but Im not sure if this is good thing or not for this classic instrument.In sound quality are we talking something like analog vs. digital here? And the historical video and some others look excellent as well.Most grateful that these you tubes were posted here!


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:51:31 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

John D and JT, it's not so hard cloning a Hammond. It's getting the combo with the Leslie right that presents the difficulties. Most of these "clonewheel" organs have good to great leslie recreations, but none capture the real thing. Personally I use an old Korg BX3 with a Leslie simulator called the Neo. I also use it in conjunction with a Pro Tools rig that has a great clonewheel plugin.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:36:09 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Reis again

Having seen photos of Tim Reis, I think (having again looked at the video) that it looks like him.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:32:58 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Baby Face

I just recalled Dave 'Baby Face" Cortez (Clowney) and looked him up. Not sure if his was a Hammond?


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:32:33 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Tim Ries

That discussion got me to look out "The Rolling Stones Project" by Tim Ries … I haven't played it for years. I've been enjoying his collaboration with Norah Jones on "Wild Horses" an old favourite. If you look up Tim Ries's website and discography, he does play piano on some things.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:20:59 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Here's one of the video links Pat.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:19:56 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Hammond heaven

Brilliant stuff, Pat. Its addition to popular music had a huge impact. Before Jimmy Smith and Booker T (did he play Hammond?), was there a Hammond or organ presence in popular music? If so, where can it be found?


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:16:17 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Thanks Pat

Pat have you had a chance to play (what they call) the "new B3?" Looks portable; but according to YouTube video sounds just the same.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:09:26 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

John D, yeah, I've spent some time on those youtubes. Brilliant stuff. You might like this link.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 18:00:57 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Like I said, I believe I recall an article that said Tim Reis--who is a sax player of no small renown--doubles on keys on this tour. He has some connection with Bernard Fowler and Munch the bassist.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 17:43:25 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: The Mystery keyboard

So what is the consensus if there is one. Who is playing a keyboard beside Chuck Leaveall on "You Can't Always Get What You Want" (AC Centre 2013 May 26)on the video supplied you know where? Clearly Chuck is there and as John says, there is someone behind and next to him. Who is that someone?


Entered at Sun Jun 2 17:31:51 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG's newest link

If you scroll down the page you will see Tim Ries on the far right. I believe that's Bobby Keys to the left; with the hat on?


Entered at Sun Jun 2 17:26:24 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Website for Pat B Think you'll like this Pat

You can probably tell by my question earlier about the organ player in the Stones that I am an Organ freak; when it comes to any kind of music. This video was well put together. I think probably that is why my favourite period of Dylan's music; was in the sixties; when we would surround himself with Al Kooper & Garth Hudson. Mike Finnegan is one of my all time favourite players. If I may, I will throw in piano player Paul Griffin.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 17:22:31 CEST 2013 from (184.144.111.177)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sorry John D!!! Mick very barely even introduced MICK TAYLOR....not that he needed introducing but still.......Mick Taylor.....Write a tell all book and recoup some of your money....Maybe Levon was right.....maybe.

Keith on Jimmy Fallon's show....."Keith Richards makes it sound as if Taylor would be re-joining the band for more than just one song live, as it would be exciting to have a "three-guitar attack" on stage, however this proved to be less than accurate when the tour began."

David Powell....So Chuck Leavell is an Alabama tree farmer too!


Entered at Sun Jun 2 16:58:22 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG/Chuck Leavell.

BEG. Chuck is indeed the piano player; but if you watch the link to the video I posted, you see Chuck on piano and a guy behind him on organ. That's the identity I am seeking. The organ player. It's funny that you can go to the Stones website and they don't identify any of the backing musicians for the tour; although we do know who some of them are.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jerry T....Rolling Stones at Toronto's Phoniex Club in 2005...10.00 gig. Interview with Keith Richards where he confirms it is Chuck Leavell. Keith refers to Chuck as a.....real musician. Darryl Johnson played with one of imagezulu's fave musicians of all time.....(especially to early 60's....Miles Davis). Darryl had a definite presence all night long. Some musicians can just stand there and exude musicality and subtle coolness. I kept thinking....There's something about this guy.

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY TO SERENITY!!!!! I hope the sun was shining down on you as you bring sunshine to us!

SERENITY....Thanks for the info on Louuuuuu. I knew something was when he cancelled so many concerts.....He's not only a survivor.....but had the strength and commitment to turn his life around via AA and NA and then he found Tai Chi and he still rocks.....and photographs......I never had the chance to meet him..... :-(

Hi Bill M. I knew you were talking about Paul James. If you would have joined us at Levon's Tribute at Hugh's Room you would have met my friends again who know Paul because of their children. They were the ones who told me that he stayed at his home in the west end one night. Wow....I'll never forget seeing Dylan at the ACC and Paul joined him for one or two songs and he just beamed....beamed with joy while playing with Dylan.

Hey Kevin J.....Are you out on the prowl again? I never liked "Emotional Rescue" until at the ACC.....We had so much fun singing along all the ohhh ohhh ohhh parts and all. Mick has the ability to make you fall in love with all the songs. I never liked "Midnight Rambler" either.....until Mick Taylor is right there playing live!!!!
And yes Kevin the video with Richard Manuel was previously posted. I remember it was CLAIRE who helped out by using tinyurl in order for me to post it at the time. And it was JERSEY GIRL who had posted a Robbie video and then from that time onward......I was enthralled with youtube......but I do take responsibility for my addiction JG. ;-D

I think Alexis P Suter was in town last night at our Waterfront Festival????

If anyone has the time to help out.....The young fans sitting beside me at the Rolling Stones concert kept telling me not to buy an iPhone but the latest (for a minute).....Samsung smart phone. Any thoughts? I have an old iMac which I would have to replace if I did buy an iPhone so......I would love to hear from the younger Band fans and the ones of a certain vintage as Bumbles used to say. I miss you Bumbles......

JOSEPH ARTHUR....In one of his videos about his heroes.....THE BAND are included!


Entered at Sun Jun 2 15:56:00 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Tim Reis piano

On a biographical site on line regarding Tim Reis, it notes that he plays piano as well as sax.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 15:35:50 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Keyboards in the RS at Air Canada 2013

John D: I watched the film of "You Can't Always Get What You Want". It looks as if Chuck Leavell is the front keyboardist but there seems to be a second one just beside and behind him. Who that is may be a mystery. Does Tim Reis also play keyboards? He is said to be sax player. ( '...by bassist Darryl Jones, keyboardist Chuck Leavell, backup singers Bernard Fowler and Lisa Fischer and saxophonists Bobby Keys and Tim Ries.') Anybody know if that is him as suggested or if it is someone else?


Entered at Sun Jun 2 15:34:34 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pat B

Pat I have interviewed Tim. I interviewed him because of his work as a sax player; with the Stones. He had just done a jazz album of Stones tunes. It didn't look like him in the video; but you never know? Thanks Pat.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 15:12:17 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Nags Head North

I remember the event at Nags Head North well. I remember seeing Paul James open for Dylan at Canada's Wonderland. I was in the first row. He was great as always. Then when I heard that they were at that establishment I was sorry I missed that because it was in my backyard in those days just a few miles away. It made the papers. I didn't know about the Vancouver part until I read this.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 15:07:50 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Jay and the Americans

Billy C: thanks for letting me know. I thought that Jay and the Americans were always a class act primarily because of the singers and the production. The emotional impact was there.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 11:34:26 CEST 2013 from (203.78.118.228)

Posted by:

margahayuland

Location: indonesia
Web: My link

Subject: Margahayuland

margahayuland http://goo.gl/YuF5p


Entered at Sun Jun 2 09:52:33 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.78)

Posted by:

Billy C.(Friend0

JT- out of curiosity i went to see Kenny Vance at a doo wop show in a high school tonight. The show wasn't really my cup of tea- started at 7:30, Vance was going on at 10 so we got there at 9:30. At 69, the guy still sings amazingly well.I'd say he hit the mark 98% of the time tonight. It was okay, not soemthing i;d go back to see again, but, i had to satisfy my curiousity. the up tempo #s were the best, the old jay an d the americans stuff, but he barely touched em.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 07:16:01 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

John D, I think his name is Tim Reis.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 05:35:19 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: True Story Bill

I love that story Bill and thanks for bringing it up. Nothing like a great story that's 100% true & the way it actually happened.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 05:10:45 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.90)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Thanks for the corrections. My source re the remote was my memory of Chris Houston's introduction to the song at live shows, which referred to Albert Goldman's Elvis book. I haven't read the book. I suppose it was because his sister was a good friend from my Ryerson days in the '70s that caused me to check Chris out when he took on the job as manager-host of the new Slither Club downstairs from the Paddock at Queen and Bathurst. I went several times - in '86 I figure it must have been. On the first occasion two of the informal guest artists were the baby-faced Greg Keelor and Jim Cuddy, just back from trying to make in NYC and about to put together Blue Rodeo. Another time the main draw was a poet from Hamilton, who became, I'm pretty sure, the suicide mentioned in Tow Wilson's great BARK song, "Lean On Your Peers". Anyway, the Slither closed, eventually to reopen as Jeff Healey's, which is where, years later, I went to see Garth play and wound up meeting Garth, Maud and BEG.

BEG: in talking about the guitarish who jammed with Dylan at the Inn on the Parking Lot, I neglected to mention his name - Paul James, as you know. At his show a couple weeks ago he also told how he first met Dylan. He was playing at the Nag's Head North and did his usual crowd-pleasing dance around the room and past the bar, where he found himself nose to nose with an anonymous guy he recognised as Dylan. Dylan said he get up to jam next set, and suggested that he be introduced as a hitchhiker from Vancouver - which is what happened.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 03:32:42 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Rolling Stones May 26th Toronto; with local choir singing You Can't Always Get....Who is playing organ; with the Stones? I can't see clearly enough in video and can't find any info on it.


Entered at Sun Jun 2 02:48:17 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Concerts 2013

Thought you guys would be interested in this:

Top 20 Concert Tours from Pollstar

By The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – Fri, 31 May, 2013

The Top 20 Concert Tours ranks artists by average box office gross per city and includes the average ticket price for shows in North America. The previous week's ranking is in parentheses. The list is based on data provided to the trade publication Pollstar by concert promoters and venue managers.

TOP 20 CONCERT TOURS

1. (1) Taylor Swift; $1,829,176; $82.25.

2. (2) Bon Jovi; $1,563,980; $91.52.

3. (3) Kenny Chesney; $1,532,732; $76.97.

4. (5) Pink; $1,094,422; $76.06.

5. (6) Maroon 5; $900,793; $66.93.

6. (7) Jason Aldean; $761,942; $53.52.

7. (8) Muse; $523,368; $56.31.

8. (9) Leonard Cohen; $499,280; $109.36.

9. (10) Carrie Underwood; $487,752; $61.01.

10. (11) Barry Manilow; $424,962; $67.49.

11. (12) Kid Rock; $364,151; $53.28.

12. (New) Motley Crue; $346,888; $81.30.

13. (13) Jeff Dunham; $231,914; $43.82.

14. (16) Tiesto; $217,393; $42.23.

15. (15) Diana Krall; $191,525; $85.21.

16. (17) Heart; $176,362; $74.03.

17. (19) Chris Tomlin; $168,412; $27.99.

18. (18) Shinedown / Three Days Grace; $166,118; $39.46.

19. (20) "Winter Jam" / Tobymac; $156,781; $12.46.

20. (21) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds; $137,872; $52.76.

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CYA soon xoxoxo


Entered at Sun Jun 2 00:16:59 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Far Out! And kids - study that tape....you have solved the easy part.....now please confirm that that really is Richard dancing...........Myself.......off to a cat show.( the non judging kind ).


Entered at Sat Jun 1 23:56:00 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Richards Drumming

Pat B you are right that it doesn't sound like Richards drumming style. I hope that it is him. He would have been touring a lot with The Band around this time so he would have had plenty of practice under his belt.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 23:39:15 CEST 2013 from (108.195.5.166)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Way Back

Not to pile on, but the thing that struck me about the Way Back video is that all of the people in it are pretty cool......legends really, with tons of cred. Problem is there's nothing cool about this video. Sebastian's harp playing is the only thing that has any grit to it.

The song itself seems fine and a nice sentiment. Just a little limp for all of these heavyweights.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 23:19:39 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.78)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

after i postedf here, i foudn the video . and was disappointed, cause i recalled Richard's drumming on the song as being exceptional and completely richard,...then i recalled it must have been on the live performances....

if you go to all music for Tar beach, the 1993 release the song was on, you'll sse drummer credits for steve gadd, levon, charlie drayton, steve jordan, jerry marotta, and leo adamian. No richard. OF course, they may have recut the song again in , or they may have used original recordings going back to 85, 86- i've no idea. and also, allmusic does not always get credits right.but they do correct when advised. i do have the dsic , may have to locate it here and give a listen


Entered at Sat Jun 1 22:46:51 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

That doesn't sound like Richard on drums on the Sebastian song.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 22:44:26 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: I liked Punk and rate The Sex Pistols as top 5 most important bands in the history of rock n roll........of course almost all of the music was rubbish...and I tired of the idiots in the crowd almost as soon as the scene started....but Punk vs Prog was not contest for me.

Remote controls.......From google..........Milestones:

- 1893 A remote control was described by Nikola Tesla, in his patent, U.S. Patent 613809

- 1950 The first TV remote control, called "Lazy Bones," was developed iby Zenith

- 1955 Zenith engineer Eugene Polley invented the "Flashmatic," the industry's first wireless TV remote

-1956 Robert Adler's  "Zenith Space Command," remote control went into production \

Funny...my Dad always bought Zenith.....I never knew they were a pioneer in this area.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 22:27:46 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.87)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: like you I hated punk, but for various reasons I caught a number of punk bands in the late '70, including the Forgotten Rebels from Hamilton. Their bassist, Pogo aGogo subsequently went solo under the name Chris Houston. His excellent LP, "Hate-Filled Man" (which came with a 12-inch square of astroturf contains his cult classic, "Baby Jesus": "Baby Jesus, looks like Elvis, shakes his Pelvis, shoots his TV; Elvis Presley, the man responsible for instant-on TV". True, apparently - invented by RCA to keepthe company's biggest star happy,


Entered at Sat Jun 1 22:24:29 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I put my Sony Betamax in the attic, because it was an object of beautiful design circa 1977. it had an equally beautiful remote control.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 21:50:23 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Not sure how anyone could watch that video without cringing..........really......the only reason I was happy to see it again ( it had already been posted in his GB a year or so ago ) was that Richard did look healthy and happy and that was nice to see.

Remote Controls for TV's: A while back Paul McCartney was on Larry King.....and KIng asked him about a meeting between The Beatles and Elvis...........McCartney laughed and said it was quite uneventful as Elvis just sat there.....but the one thing the guys couldn't stop talking about afterwards was that Elvis was changing channels on his TV without having to get off the couch......he was using a remote control.......that was mid 60's!..............my earliest memory of having one was 1980.........

Happy Birthday Serenity!


Entered at Sat Jun 1 21:28:41 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Thanx, Joan,etc

JOAN: Thanx heaps for the wishes, It was a great day. My girls took me to a cat show [the judging kind]. We are great lovers of cats. One has 3. and the other has 2..I loved every minute of it.. My fave is a persian and ragdoll and Scottish Fold..Beautiful..

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JT: Go to my earlier post on Lou Reed and get the Rolling Stone article. He was a very sick man, so we all wish him a speedy recovery with our prayers..

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Cya soon xoxoxo


Entered at Sat Jun 1 20:54:07 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Get well, Lou Reed

BEG and others: Lou Reed is recovering from a liver transplant in Cleveland. His wife Laurie Anderson, confirmed that he was gravely ill for a few weeks but is now doing well. At age 71, his previous life experiences finally seemingly caught up with him. This so far is good news! Lot so articles to read on this.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 20:50:19 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: John Sebastian

Thanks for alerting us to that video with McGuinn, Spector and Manuel and Anderson backing John S. It was good to see Richard looking so well. I appreciated it greatly. The song is so light and 'poppy', it floats. It had the lightness of The Lovin' Spoonful without the subtle grit that made them great. It won't make my library. But the memory of Richard was worth the watch. And to see him dance... well, that's nice.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 20:15:36 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Remotes

My Sony TV of the 70s had a remote control. It had 5 buttons only and did very little. The TV still exists and works but it is in storage in a remote storage space with the remote. I even remember more remotely that older TVs had remotes control to turn TVs on and off.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 20:10:34 CEST 2013 from (74.108.32.67)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Serenity

Wiahing you a very happy belated birthday.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 19:40:46 CEST 2013 from (99.237.0.147)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Lou Reed, etc.

Thanx, you wonderful posters.. Haven't had time to read all, but plan to later.

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BEG: Thought you would be interested in reading this, as I know he is a fave of yours..

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Had a birthday last Saturday and 2 of the wonderful gifts I rec'd from my girls: The LEVON HELM tribute DVD, AND an original autograph copy from ROBBIE"s "Contact" album. She sent for it and to see his signing with my name was a thrill to behold!!

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CYA soon LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


Entered at Sat Jun 1 18:43:41 CEST 2013 from (69.121.106.78)

Posted by:

Billy C. (Friend0

Subject: Mad Men/Con Merchants

Ah, some things just last forever. And take on deeper hues ( of meaning) and signifcance.Sometimes, the Gb is a just a learning process, an unfolding discovery, a fountain of informtation and almost seems to exist by or for a manifest destiny, or some predetermined fate.

With the temporary reappeareance of Dr Osaba last night, in the midst of a extended exchange about the Inn on The Lake in Niagara Falls and mirrored ceilings, , one can't help but winder why Viagra and Niagara are so close in spelling but even closer in sound. Would it make sense to name something for an opposite- Niagara Falls- Certainly you wouldn't want to associate Viagra with falling. However, maybe the merchandisers were going for the associations of largest vertical height and flow rate?

Once mirrored ceilings enter a conversation, all bets are off.

Pete, if any young children ever ask any of us that same question, an alternate answer would be- to help locate the remote control for the television. I'm guessing remotes were not yet in existence at that time.



Entered at Sat Jun 1 11:18:07 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: the video

If you can overlook the obvious eighties-ness of that video it's not too bad. The big crime is that Richard gets so little attention. He does some nice drumming but it was a crime he didn't get to sing. Perhaps in the mid eighties The Band were under-appreciated but these days I suspect that Richard is more widely respected than any of the others.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 09:28:04 CEST 2013 from (68.199.209.160)

Posted by:

BIlly C. (Friend0

John, dave, rod. This is the video i mentioned, I found it immediatley after posting to dave, I just didn't want to take the exercise away from him. Nobility in labor, all that jazz. I recall there were also some fine live shows featuring essentially this same lineup with the addtion of Rick Danko and Richie Havens. They were aired on PBS, channel 9 here in NYC.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 04:35:47 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Video and Richard on drums

It's interesting to note that the video was apparently released in 1986; according to the credits. Richard would be gone by March of that same year.

I always loved the way Richard played drums in that unorthodox style.


Entered at Sat Jun 1 04:33:45 CEST 2013 from (24.114.84.196)

Posted by:

Kevin J

My name is Kevin and i want to testify of the awful work done by John Sebastian and friends in that video back in 1986........ Dr Osoba, where the f*ck are you - spell caster to the downtrodden here at the GB....... in my life i never thought there is such thing as spiritual intercession. my problem started 3 minutes ago when viewing some strange behavior in that video Rod posted..........It dawn on me on that fateful day 31st May 10:17 pm when i knew that situation has gotten out of hand and he then told me the great Richard Manuel was playing drums and dancing for this collection of fools.........Ahhhhhhhhh! Dr Osoba...forget Sandra and Nina.....help me and all these other lost souls writing about a Toyota dealership otherwise known as Inn on the Park.....PS: and spend no time on those worried about the Go Go's.......PPS: Thanks for helping out the Blackhawks.....make sure NHL ref Stephen Walkom never works again...our Pat B wouldn't be able to take it.

BEG: I love ya..........my guilty Rolling Stones pleasure is "Emotional Rescue".....I note some reviews dismissed this as a bathroom break number...but I always really liked that song.


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