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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, May 2010


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Nilsen and Nelson

Not a bad match, Willie and Kurt. Check link above.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Joan & The 1950 Buick Roadmaster

Joan, a beautiful car! (think they lowered the roof on this one, anyway looks good).


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Good Old Hockey Game

An education about hockey fer youze 'Mericans who've never watched this.

Stompin' TOM!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Clapton and Winwood Play The Band

Those YouTube videos of Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood performing "Shape I'm In" may be less than perfect, but I hope an official DVD release will include the song. It's nice when survivors pay tribute to the fallen--as we do today on Memorial Day in the USA.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, the operation had a beef theme, either code named Hamburger or Mincemeat can't remember which.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joan: Snazzy no doubt, but what is it exactly, aside from a car?


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Joan, your dad had good taste. Snazzy!


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: The Roadster

My Dad had one of these. Not red, but black with the trademark 3 holes.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Lost horizontally ...

Steve: Your outline of the Montague book "The Was who Never Man" makes me recall those happy days when "The Goon Show" was not "Hockey Night in Canada" but a funny British radio series.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Too young to know what a roadster is. Yes I did know that Leslie McFarlane was Franklin W. Dixon for a while. And yes, I did read and have some of Brian McFarlane's book. Before he hit it big on HNIC, he was a sportscaster on CFCF Channel 12 here. And they Maple Leafs were never big when he was there. As for Scott Young, I have in my posession an autographed, original hardcover copy of "Scrubs On Skates" as well as the othet two books that made up "The schoolboy hockey trilogy". always fun to go down memory lane.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: There's A Warning On That Ice Cream

The milk probably came from cows and since it's American it probably came from cows injected with Bovine Growth Hormone a practice banned in Canada. Check the ice cream for any signs of discarded needles before consuming. Remember, Lars, keep that helmet on if you go down to the woods. Safety First!

Landy, Ball Four was about the end of athlete bios for me as well though there might have been another one after that, can't remember, but it certainly was a game changer. The,Here's Howe, book was just that, here's how you do it. It was really more of a how to get better at hockey. I can thank the wrist curling with weights exercise for my once powerful wrist shot.

Sorry Peter times up. Ian Fleming read a book in 1939 about a body dumped in the ocean that was meant to be discovered and thought to be someone else . He mentioned the story to some of his pals in British Intelligence. In 43 two guys with the great names of Montague and Chumbly were tasked with working out a plan that involved dumping a dead body into the ocean hoping it would come to the German's attention.

They dressed a guy who'd died of poisoning into the water off Spain dressed as a British Marine with secret documents in a case chained to his wrist detailing false plans for an invasion of Greece.

The Germans fell for it and moved men and tanks out of central Europe to Greece making the landing in Sicily much easier for the Allies.

Ironically the only high level official with Hitler's ear who thought the thing smelled was Minister of Propaganda, Goebbels and apparently he didn't feel he should tell Hitler since Hitler didn't like to be corrected once he KNEW something.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Troh

Landmark: So you too were a fan of those two clean-cut American lads of high school age. Maybe you can answer me this, What's a roadster? (Nancy Drew had one too, which she was in the habit of driving off in as fast as the law allowed.) Bringing this back to hockey, I trust that you know that the author of most of those HB and ND books was a Canuckistani named Leslie MacFarlane, whose son Brian you will recall from his days as colour commentator on "Hockey Night In Canada" (Toronto edition, which you will remember from the days when the Leafs always made - and sometimes dominated - the playoffs.) And, to bring it back to rock and roll, Brian MacFarlane also found some free time to pen, not only some sports bios that may well have filled young Landmark's shelves, sitting beside the works of Scott "Neil's Dad" Young, but also the hit song "Clear The Track (Here Comes Shack)", #1 on CHUM in 1966.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Kurt Nilson

Peter V - I've got a version of Lost Highway, a duet with him & Willie Nelson. I think he was a Eurovision star - anything to that? On that song he shows a large vocal range.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Feeling depressed about not getting any...

Norm-
ARRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

(sniff.)

All right for you. Think I'll go raid the freezer and eat a MESS of ice cream.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Where's the Good????

Israel it appears has committed a colossal blunder. South Korea is flexing muscles along the North Korean border over allegedly the sinking of a war ship by north Korea. Possible war is near.

There is oil puking all over the Gulf of Mexico still and no one has figured out a clear course of action to stop it and go forward cleaning up this mess. Are things going to get any better???? Greece is totally broke, Iceland is bankrupt.....this is pretty depressing.

Anyway Lars! old friend I was thinking of you this morning, 'cause I know what a sweet tooth you have. Last night I was served, (hot out of the oven) the best gawd damn apple pie. Granny Smith apples........Susan is getting to be a master at that pie. (Maybe she's doing it to take control of me some how.) what a scarey gawd damn thought. Anyway I was pouring my coffee this morning and that pie was on the counter covered with a tea towel........I couldn't resist it. I had a great big piece with my coffee, and giggled like hell thinking about yer sweet tooth. And you didn't get ANY:):):):)


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

My mom was too hip to bring home books like that. I am blessed that she was/is a voracious reader so I was always in posession of the latest Hardy Boy book. From there it was hockey and baseball bios such as Bobby Hull and Rod Gilbert. Once I got my hands on "Ball Four", that ended my sports bio phase. I will always be eternally thankful that my mother instilled and nurtured a love of books that carries on to this day.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Bill M: ok, it's a draw . . . and I WAS impressed with Mr. Dixon's contributions . . . .


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Not the longest 3:08 by a long stretch. (Have you ever listened to "Fight On Manitoba" all the way through, like I have?) Note the nice guitar work by Hugh Dixon, who later recorded a short string of budget guitar LPs (e.g., "High School Guitar") of the sort that the Mother of Steve and/or the Mother of Landmark would have carted home to please their boys back in the day. Note also the follow-on link to Bob's 1956 rockabilly record, his second one for the Rama label - and unfortunately the inferior one.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: in other news

GB regulars will be relieved to know that Science has finally bested Nature: GB favourite Céline Dion, 42 and hubby René Angélil, 68, are expecting twins . . . .


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Posted by:

Steve

Gordie Howe, The Greatest of Them All! Bill, the first book my mother bought for me, at least the first one I remember, was, Here's Howe. I still have it.

But, Peter, can you make the connection between James Bond and The Sicilian Front?


Entered at Mon May 31 16:02:31 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: the longest 3:08 of your life

Everything's on YouTube, Bill.


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Posted by:

Deb

Loved the video, Dlew.


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Posted by:

Fred

Warren Zevon name drops some NHL teams in Hit Somebody.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Rod.

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joe J: I liked the Neil Young song you posted. Re the Red Wings, while I can't say for sure without digging out the record and something to play it on, I suspect the team was mentioned in "Gordie Howe", a minor early-'60s hit for Montreal's Big Bob and the Dollars (see in the last week or so).


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Last Refuge Of A Scoundrel

The only justification a spokesman for the Israeli gov't could offer on CBC radio this morning for the attack on those unarmed ships and the killing of at least 10 people in international waters was, " you have to remember, we're the only real democracy in this region".


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: History: written by the winners. But only the Big Winners...

We can go back to WWI and look at the Gallipoli campaign (so important to Australia and NZ, but greater casualties were suffered by the French, Italians and British, Indians, Canadians and on... all to try and create a 2nd front... terrible failure.


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Posted by:

Rod

great video dlew919.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yesterday they interviewed a man from the Highland division about Dunkirk. Days after AFTER the Dunkirk evacuation, two divisions were landed 100 miles further West to bolster the French retreat and also to allow even more men than were evacuated at Dunkirk to escape via the Western French ports. This further evacuation (also under fire) is totally forgotten, and I’d never even heard of it, yet two entire divisions sacrificed to cover the retreat. Casualties were heavy, and the man interviewed then spent five years in a prisoner of war camp. He said he was still bitter as they were a straight 100% sacrifice, with no chance either of success or escape, and he still remembered vividly those who were killed, not taken prisoner.

That prompted a section on how many people are in the actions that don’t loom large in history and how selective our view is of which are the big events. Max Hastings who was interviewed said the Italian WWII campaign is rarely mentioned in Britain but was long, vital and bloody (it is central in Catch 22, as Lars will know!). The British contingent went straight from North Africa into it, and because Patton was in charge, and because of films like “Patton” we think of it is an American theatre, rather than the joint one it was.

In the end remember “How lucky you are to live in boring times” as someone put it. I still give thanks to Harold Wilson for keeping my British generation out of Vietnam. If only his much later successor as Labour leader had been as astute.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: This one's really for BEG, but anyone who's interested. can also check it out

This chap, Marcos Moletta is playing an old Django Reinhardt tune on a five-string electric mandolin. He's quite good, but I wouldn't have posted it except to my eyes, he looks like a young Robbie... what do others think?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

A toast to the Henry's. Thanks Lars for sharing that...,


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Soldier's Last Letter

When the postman delivered the letter,

It filled her old heart full of joy.

But she didn't know 'till she read the inside,

It was the last one from her darling boy.

I'm writing this down in a trench mom,

Don't scold if it isn't so neat.

The way that you did, when I was a kid,

And I'd come home with mud on my feet.

Now the captain just gave us our orders,

And mom we will carry them thru.

I'll finish this letter, the first chance I get,

But for now I'll just say I love you.

Then that mother's old hands began to tremble,

And she fought against tears in her eyes.

But they came unashamed, when there was no name,

And she knew that her soldier had died.

The old mother knelt down by her bedside,

And she prayed lord above hear my plea,

And protect all the sons who are fighting tonight,

And dear god keep our home country free.

In remembering the fallen, a thought alway has to be given to the mothers with broken hearts. My brother Craig, (who I named my son after) was killed at age 21. Not in war but in a logging accident. My mum has always been a strong woman, raising 5 boys and a daughter. However I know she never got over that loss. This was brought back to me just the other day. Lars story, and the thoughts of the others here reminded me of this when a few days ago while stopping to say hi to my mum on the way up to Port Hardy, my mum, (now 88) told me. Norman long ago I purchased the plot beside Craig's grave, and when I leave you, that is where I want you boys to put me.......yes mum, (with a hug).

So, remember all those mothers..........


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Posted by:

BWNWITenn

Web: My link

The debut Truth & Salvage Co. album was released this week. I don't know when I've liked a new band this much - maybe the Mavericks 15 years ago. Interestingly, all songs are credited to the four songwriting members of the band, but elsewhere it lists "contributions" by a few other outside writers. Like everything else in the CD era, it would have been just about perfect if they dropped maybe two songs. But there's really not a bad song on the album, and the majority of them are fantastic. I just wish the hadn't decided to have Luther Dickinson overdub a slide guitar over the end of "Pure Mountain Angel."


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Lars thanks

Link: DeWolff, three Dutch younster making 60-70th music. Sounds good to me, they were on Pink Pop today.


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Posted by:

Coffee Al

Location: East End Long Island

Subject: Lars

Thank You Lars-As a Vietnam Vet who was drafted in 1969,i am well aware of the Henry's of life. First Fort Dix,Fort Gordon,then on to DangNang.We where all Henry's there, young,and in some ways in total shock of thinking that we had a years time to go before going back to the " Real World" Now back 39 years going on 40 next year,i still see those Henry's,may they all rest in peace.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Lars

That was moving and beautiful.. It was the predicament of most of the guys I knew. Some did it successfully, and others did not. They joined your friend Henry. Like Henry they live on in memory.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: dubois

Subject: Memorial Day

I just came to and read the general reaction to my memorial post. Thanks, it was good to post something worthwhile for a change. I was just trying to show that in the 1960s a young man who came of age had to look at the reality of military service. For the most part, joining the Navy and the Air Force was safer than joining the Army or the Marines. However, a person who volunteered for the "safer" arms of the service had to give more years of his life. It should be noted that a few people who took the "safer" route had it backfire, in my case just for a short period. I remember sitting on my helmet and telling myself that I was having a bad dream. I was never a warrior.


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, I didn't watch the game so I have to ask, did they play with six skaters right from the beginning of the game or did they wait and pull the goalies at some agreed point?

Can the US gov't confiscate all of Beyond Petroleum's assets to recover something out of this disaster. Too bad BP isn't a country it would be so much simpler.


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Posted by:

dlwe919

Subject: Lars...

I was born in the year after you enlisted. Your story touched me and also makes me grateful that I've never had to go. Also makes me appreciate what men (and women now) like you went through. Thank you.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Lars.....and others. I'll remember you too.
Good bye. Good night.


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Posted by:

Pat B

I was going to post about the Hawks (as in hockey) but I defer to Lars' beautiful thoughts.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"The Musical Adventures of Billy and Mojo"

.....includes a lot of my faves such as.....Marley, Cooke, Otis Redding, Sly and The Family Stone, Marvin Gaye, Joni, and The Band! Dylan also, but I would have preferred the faster tempo of "Forever Young".
My students also preferred it compared to the slower cut that's usually played.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Lars

Thanks for sharing that man. Much appreciated.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Ulster County

Subject: Remembering Henry

If I go back all the way to my days in the New Paltz Little League, I remember Henry Schulte as a very blond boy who was on my team, the Yankees. Henry was there when I got into my first fist fight and got bloodied and knocked to the ground by an older boy. He came over and helped me up. He asked me if I was okay.

In High School Henry and I played sports together. He wasn't a great offensive end, but he was adequate. You could always count on Henry to make the block, to do the right thing. In class, we happened to be together most of the time. I got to know him pretty well. We both had fathers who were building contractors and we both got a taste of construction sites during the long hot summers. As graduation neared I told him I was going in the military as soon as possible. I wasn't going to wait for them to come after me. I enlisted in 1967. Henry was a year older than me, even though we graduated together. He put it off, drifting along, apparently in the hopes that they would just leave him alone. He was drafted in the summer of 1968. I saw Henry when we both were home for a weekend. He had orders for Vietnam. He was sent over there in the late fall of 1968. I remembered thinking that he looked good, was leaner, and was strangely distant. It was the only time I ever saw him detached, like he was moving towards some goal that I wouldn't understand. I gave him my address, but he never wrote. He did write to a fellow classmate and I was surprised to hear that Henry was in trouble over there. The letter asked that our classmate Phil to light a candle for Henry. When I heard that, I was thinking that Henry would have some war stories for us when he got home. As for me, my ship was pulling out and I put Henry in the back of my mind. I didn't have contact with anybody until March.

When we finally pulled back into our home port I called home and my mother asked me if I'd heard about Henry Schulte. For some reason I remember I tried to stop her from saying anything, as if her not saying it would save him. She cut through my protests and told me he was killed . And I felt horrible. He was already buried. That was March of 1969. More than 41 years later I have experienced the normal losses of family and friends, it's all part of going forward. But when I think of Henry, I remember him as reluctant. Long ago I heard about the details of his death and I don't know if they're accurate, but it sounded like Henry did what was required of him as a soldier. And got shot for it. His Army buddy survived the short firefight and lived to tell what happened, or so I heard. It doesn't matter how the story goes. Henry is gone. I'll remember him.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Walt Tkaczuk of the Rangers.


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Posted by:

Peter V

You really do miss out not having the Eurovision song contest in North America. We were all rooting for the awful British entry to do badly and it exceeded all our expectations by coming last. We decided to rate the 25 entries out of ten, and found our variation was between 0 out of 10 (e.g. Britain) and 1 out of 10 (France). We were amazed to find we both gave Lena from Germany the only higher mark, 5 out of 10, and were gratified that she won handsomely. Apart from Britain the only one we wanted to do REALLY badly was Denmark. You can't take the riff from Every Breath You Take exactly, put new and far worse lyrics over the top and have people vote for you. I sincerely hope Sting sues them.

Otherwise, everyone in the Balkans voted for their neighbours. All the ex-Soviet countries voted for each other. Greece voted for Cyprus. Cyprus voted for Greece. The Norwegian production was as naff as every other year, engulfing all singers with flames and wind machines. A festival of kitschz, but with an odd fascination.

Overall: nul points. Glad Lena won.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve couldn't have said it any better.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Randy Newman

Randy Newman sings like a scriptwriter and actor, He adopts personnas brilliantly, then sings from within the character that he has created. It's one of the several things that sets him way above most songwriters. See him as an actor performing a role. Take NOTHING at face value. e.g. I Love LA …


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)

Subject: tea party leaders

The tea party's thick here in Kansas. Except for where I live, Lawrence, which isn't really Kansas.

Joan's right about Limbaugh. I'd put Glenn Beck in there too. Ancestors and forefathers include Charles Coughlin, Joe McCarthy, George Wallace and Curtis LeMay, Pat Buchanan, even Ross Perot to an extent (he made his billions processing Medicare and Medicaid claims so that wouldn't endear him to enemies of Big Government). Out of that sorry bunch, Wallace did win a handful of states in the South and made inroads in the industrial north when he ran for President in '68. People tend to forget that Wallace was a strong contender for the 1972 Democratic Nomination and was even talked about in 1976 as a candidate, after being almost killed.

However, in his later years, Wallace either had a change of heart or acquired one. Reelected Alabama governor several times, he pulled a significant number of black votes and in fact, may have gotten a majority of them in the Gubernatorial races. I'd need to fact check that.



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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland/flyover country lawrence KS

Subject: Dennis Hopper rides into the eternal sunset

He was born in Kansas, Dodge City to be precise, and man did he journey beyond the heartland...

I know everyone here's seen Easy Rider and heard The Band in it, but have any of you ever experienced The Last Movie? That may be the definitive Hopper statement...don't say I didn't warn you...

Usually I'd say rest in peace but that makes no sense whatsoever with this man...nor does too soon gone, which doesn't mean I won't miss him...this is the end of some kind of era, that's all I know for sure.

Well, time to listen to "The Pilgrim:Chapter 33" by Kristofferson, you know why, right?


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Nowhere boy

On our Saturday night menu: "the story of Lennon's teenage years and the start of his journey to becoming a successful musician"

They say it's good, I'm curious. Have a great weekend all!


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Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago

Ken Burns did an interesting documentary on Huey Long. Worth seeing for the old newsreel footage. The documentary is a little unsatisfying itself, in that it's content to repeat briefly the allegations of widespread corruption by Long without taking a position. Either he did or he didn't (other reading convinced me he did), but it makes a difference, and it's hard to see how you could make a documentary while doing a soft shoe around this subject. Randy Newman doesn't usually go for the easy cliche or let anyone off easy, including the narrators of his songs. Two of the best songs on the Good Old Boys record are "Marie" and "Guilty," non-political love songs, but somehow still of a piece with the rest of the record.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bloody Saturday

Winnipeg.......June 21/1919


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sammy Masters

Joe, who can forget Rockin' Red Wing by Sammy Masters? In this case it's about a Native American dancer not a sports team, but hey, RRs written about that too:

Her Father, Chief Standing Bear

Standing with a feather in his hair

And he taps his feet to the rock and roll beat

And says, `Red Wing, your dance is mighty neat

No, my memory isn't that brilliant, but i found a shop with a box full of late 50s / early 60s stuff last week, and bought a small pile of Fats Domino, Jerry Lee lewis … and the Sammy Masters song.


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Posted by:

joe J

Web: My link

Link is to a new Neil Young song. A little lightweight on first hearing but it does reference the Red Wings; maybe a R & R first.

Came up empty handed on my recent trip to town. Couldn't find a copy of Peter Wolf's latest and couldn't justify paying $25 for the new edition of 'Exile'


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Jasmine

If you haven't, just google Jasmine tea when you have a moment. I am convinced of a lot of the good qualities of this tea. 5 News claims of it's health properties.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Stopped buying Rolling Stone years ago. Uncut, The Word, Mojo, Record Collector are all vastly better. BUT I have a near-complete set of RS from around 1968 to 1984 or 1985 in the attic.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, Gunpowder Green, Japanese sencha … ten different green teas in the cupboard here,


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: TEA! - He - he

Peter! On the subject of tea. Do you use gun powder green tea?? Great stuff! I keep several teas on hand at all times, (but not all these gawd damn flavoured things).

I got to drinking all these teas when I was young and commercial salmon fishing, and loving learning to cook from all these old Japanese fishermen. They turned me on to a lot of good teas.

At a favourite Vietnamese restaurant of mine in Vancouver, when the waitress comes to take your order they always bring you a glass of steaming Jasmine tea. There is a big urn of it on the counter. I love the stuff, got addicted to it, and noticed how it always settled my stomach.

Well one day sitting in an office some where waiting for an appointment, I picked up a news paper and was reading it when I came across this article about how good jasmine tea is for your digestion, which had been confirmed for me just by drinking it a lot. Seems most people don't realize how good that stuff is for you.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: coincidence??

I haven't given Ms. Palin's career the attention it deserves, but I have been struck by her eloquence and I found these examples (see [My link]) to be truly deep and simple at the same time. Well, mostly simple. They share something, I think, with the oeuvre of that other Sarah, The Sweet Songstress of Saskatchewan . . . .


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: If you're talking years of on-ice service, Gordie's three generations all by himself. (And has anyone ever had more Canuckistani boys named after him? Here you can't walk a block without bumping into one of them; same can't be said for Maurice, even in PQ.) On another note, don't forget to count the league's one American, Tom Williams. Just enough 'foreigners' for a cribbage game back then, but now enough for a massive euchre party.


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks Joan/JQ. I wondered if there was anyone who was actually leading the rabble.

What a ticket that would be in 2012. I guess, Palin, because of her political experience would be top dog on the ticket if they fielded a team. Shades of W and Dick should they win.

Bill, I thought about your educated guess that Makita might have been the only foreign born player in the mid 60's and couldn't think of anyone else, myself.

I was talking to my mother this morning, she was an avid Wings fan during that time ( still is to a lesser extent). She can probably go back three generations on Gordie Howe's family tree. I asked her if she knew of any foreign born players from that time and she mentioned a guy named, John Miszuk.

I googled him and sure enough, born in Poland in 1940. He played 42 games with Detroit, he also played with The Flyers, Black Hawks and North Stars.

I bet there are others out there. There had to have been people like him born during or shortly after the war in Eastern Europe who came here as little kids and grew up playing hockey like every other Canadian boy their age. Got to be more.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: now I know it's just a pain in the ass ...

Kevin J: Seems typically Rolling Stoney to me. I stopped reading it in the mid '70s because it was like listening to a guy who saw himself as the one true god. You might look for a secondhand copy of Dave Marsh's "The Heart and Soul of Rock and Roll", his top 1000 singles of all time. Endlessly interesting, endlessly disagreewithable, and occasionally clangingly wrong - like citing Greg Allman's soulful voice on "Ramblin' Man".

Speaking of "Rolling Stone" from the old days, it occurred to me that my circa '70 issues (such as a couple I've quoted in the past re their coverage of "Cahoots" and "Stage Fright") came from the collection of local writer Jack Batten, the same guy who wrote the review of Neil Young's 1969 show at the Riverboat that I quoted from yesterday. From '79-'81 I lived in the Annex, and in doing the rounds of garage sales in the neighbourhood one Saturday morning I found a stack of Batten's RS magazines, which I of course bought from him. Interesting street - which he shared with both Scott Young (small world eh?) and Margaret Atwood.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Rush's leadership

Joan - Rush may be the leader generally but I think the Tea Party belongs to pistol-packin' Palin. Rush, when push comes to shove, is a business mostly; he never really gets too involved with rallies & movements. Not that Palin isn't after the bucks too; look at her lack of patriotic dedication to the oath she took as governor. Both rely on the ignorant masses to fuel their ambitions and Rush might be more the more cynical & manipulative in that endeavor.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bill M

I did not know of his involvement in the L. Pelltier case....dissapointing and a black mark to be sure......his gross underfunding of our military was also plain wrong but a remarkable 16 year run overall.........

Anyhow, on to music......had to pick up something at the Eaton Centre today before heading out of town and while waiting I wandered into the Indigo bookstore....Rolling Stone magazine has a "500 greatest songs of all time" issue.......laughable in that The Band ranks only 2 ( The Weight and TNTDODD ) while Blondie and Aerosmith get 3......The Doors get more songs and much higher ranked ones at that!.....all sorts of other crazy choices but then you realize it was all based on a vote of a bunch of prominent people ( The Band's own RR amoung them ) .and of course - most people would just think of an artist and rattle off the hits that come to mind.......only redeeeming feature of the poll was that the Eagles were the only major band to rank below our guys........the experts saw fit to include only one Eagles song - Hotel California.......Joni Mitchel again get short shrift by the rock press ranking only two songs!


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Steve

The Tea Party does indeed deem to have a leader. His name is Rush Limbaugh.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The woods

Subject: Stacking firewood......that time of year

STEVE- Another day off.....still not feeling up to a day's work?.....you're a poor example of a farmer.....why don't you call yourself a "pollution-e coli disaster specialist"?

The day is mild, cloudy and free of the usual May insects, thank the Lord for small favors. I have a mountain of oak and ashwood to stack. Gonna get a little bit done each day. The roses are starting to bloom...it's a good time of year.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: If you look under your bed today ...

Steve: Your invocation of "Teddybears' Picnic" brings back memories of Mr Bing, whose CBC radio show circa 1960 used the song as its theme. Mr Bing once read my name out on my birthday, and suggested that I'd find a present if I looked under the bed. I did, and found a shrimp-farm starter kit. The eggs were duly stuck in a glass of water, which was placed on the piano. Nothing much was happening anyway, but the experiment came to an untimely end when an uncle came inside to escape the heat and ...


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: If You Go Down To The Woods Today

Lars, wear a helmet if you go anywhere near that woodpecker . Those bastards can recognize a hollow piece of dead wood at a glance. He'll turn your head to wood chips.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: warning: irony-free content

Kevin J: I agree with you re Trudeau overall, but he does have two black marks in my books. In retrospect he overreacted in using War Measures Act powers against the threat of the FLQ and, more pertinent to the Band - or at least Robbie Robertson - it was under his watch that Leonard Peltier was extradited back to the US on the basis of questionable - and widely questioned - evidence. He had the legal authority to say no, and the lawyerly justification for doing so.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Louisiana Men

Well Deb; Just watching that news, and knowing what it's like to loose our life as fishermen, and watching what those poor folks are going thru' brought tears to my eyes and put the lump in my throat.

To make matters worse this well has been leaking for much longer than was first reported, and they are finding more plumes of loose oil. Getting scarier all the time.

The web page I have put here, is Jo-el Sonnier & Eddy Raven's, Jumbalaya....... to all the folks in that great state.

I think of all the beauty of that coast, the boats I love to see, the happy uplifting music of those folks down there. There used to be a really great N'Awlins style restaurant in English Bay in Vancouver called "Maxine's". Just the other day while in Vancouver I walked by it, (now all closed up and shabby looking). Like many places the economy has taken it's toll. But I remember some really great meals I enjoyed in that place, while there was great live N'Awlins music played.

So for all you folks down there, instead of disrespecting everything about how the country is run, we have to feel for the people, and hope that they are able to contain this gawd damn catastrophe and get all the help possible in trying to rebuild their life.

The USA have enough problems now, so kicking all these hard working folks while they are down, is counter productive.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

If this website makes it through next year it will match The Band's career - 16 years........the question is whether we are in the dive and dancehall phase or the arena and stadium one................do the administrators of this p[lace still keep stats on traffic? I would think the recent activity of Levon and the quite widespread anticipation of Robbie's new release would have led to an increase in people looking for information on The Band.......anyhow, it would be interesting to know what the numbers are.........

Just a thought on Obama..........Canada once had a charismatic-intellectual as leader in Pierre Elliot Trudeau.....he completely changed our country for the better establishing it as a multi-cultural and bilingual nation and most importantly he did just about everything he promised he would do.........love him or hate him as some did - he had the courage of his convictions............Obama offered so much hope and yet he seems without any conviction or courage.......perhaps he will find his footing but after the debacle of health care and various other - dare I say it - flip-flops - it seems he might just be another one of those politicians caring more about getting re-elected than making real changes.........wouldn't it have been glorious if he had just said "Look, I may only last one term but this is what we are going to do......" I and I think the rest of the wortld had thought he might just be the one guy who was capable of acting that way.......but no. Sad.....


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: III

The ironist doesn't say what he thinks, but doesn't necessarily just say the opposite of what he thinks. I think. So irony is necessarily ambiguous. So irony is in the eye of the beholder.

Dig this comment on "Kingfish" -

"Randy had the courage to write a tribute to the only political genius America has produced up to the present time.Hughie Long was only popular among the poor whites of his home state but they loved him with good cause. Great Song."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Tea bags

Illka … avoid Lipton’s tea. Nestea is worse than Nescafé which is saying something. I’m not even convinced about Twinings either. My mum would walk a long way to buy Co-Op 99 Tea which she defined as the classic basic “breakfast” tea. As there are no Co-op stores near us, we stop whenever we’re near one and replenish stocks. It’s inexpensive. If you see “Irish Breakfast Tea” it’s stronger and darker than English, and very much like Co-Op 99. It’s seen more in the USA than here, I think. The mass market PG Tips is OK too. I only drink “brown tea” about once a day, as I’m addicted to green tea. But when I have “brown tea” I like a basic one.

As his Wiki entry says, ambiguity is Randy Newman’s hallmark. But if you think of who Lester Maddox was railing against on the said TV show, and the fact that Randy Newman is Jewish, I take it as read that his opinions on Huey Long, who certainly associated closely with 1930s anti-Semites, would be negative. The idea that Long was portrayed sympathetically because he invested in schoolbooks (and that’s commendable) is like saying that the Slave Trader in Sail Away is really a nice guy because he’s offering sweet watermelon and a buckwheat cake.


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Given your propensity to assume the pulpit position, what do you say about Randy's "God's Song"? Is that an ironic song? Is this a sarcastic question?

Speaking of Dylan and irony, this morning's listening included Mark Haines and Tom Leighton's very enjoyable celtic-lite version of "When The Ship Comes In".


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: ironic (?) II

In local news . . . .


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: isn't it ironic?

Irony (not to mention its evil twin, sarcasm) is such a slippery concept that it is almost impossible to discuss it profitably . . . I did a quick scan of the W'pedia "Irony" entry and came away with the the Wisdom of the Dead echoing in my aching head: " . . . as well to count the angels dancing on a pin . . . ." . . . Do you recall all the earnest English majors who weighed in when Alanis's "Ironic" was in heavy rotation?
It's difficult to gauge on record, you can't see the performer smirking (with B. Dylan and R. Newman, I just assume they're being ironic all the time).
I prefer to take a song like "Kingfish" as in the tradition of TNTDODD or "Acadian Driftwood" or "King Harvest" - the reaction of the poor-but-honest proletarian to the forces that are shaping his world. I can imagine someone like a D. Helm saying, "well, I don't agree with everything he says, but he's gonna get us a school bus, and he don't bend over every time Standard Oil winks . . . ." It's always easy (OK, easier) to see the ironies in retrospect - and the choices-between-evils we're getting dealt today aren't really any less shitty, are they (even - or especially - when they're served up with PR-flack-sentimental sauce).
Thus endeth the sermon . . . .


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Music related: Tea Bags (Steve's thread)

Finnish hootenanny/folk group "Pihasoittajat" (freely translated as Street Singers) recorded a song called "Vihaan teepusseja" (freely translated "I hate tea bags") in early seventies. It was really just like an Appalachian rag with a lot of 5-string banjo playing. - Any tea bag songs between Poole and Brighton, Peter?

Footnote: At that time there was nothing else but Lipton's waterly Yellow Label in the stores in Finland. And now there is nothing but fruit flavoured tropical mix from Nestle :-[


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Southern Discomfort

"Now, if I was you all, I'd quit askin' questions and haul ass...'cause my buddies... dey not nice like me."
--Cajun trapper in the film "Southern Comfort", which featured a soundtrack composed by Randy Newman's friend Ry Cooder

Though some research was involved in writing the material for "Good Old Boys", as a child, Mr. Newman lived New Orleans for a while with his mother and her family.

A key to understanding the perspective of the characters in Good Old Boys can be found in the song "Rednecks", inspired by another unsavory Southern politician, Georgia's Lester Maddox:

"Well he may be a fool but he's our fool
If they think they're better than him they're wrong"


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: the kettle

Subject: the pot and the kettle

HEY STEVE- Why don't you get your sorry ass up, put some boots on, and go muck out the stalls? Your cattle are out there milling around in their own urine and feces, spewing methane into the air that screws up our ozone layer. Scoop up a few of those used steroid needles while you're at it.

You and your filthy cattle, along with your Klu Klux Klan family, are the biggest polluters in this whole GB, yet you have the audacity to whine about another country and everything about it. Move to Iran....you GUNKIE!!!!

I saw a pileated woodpecker in the back field this past week. We are blessed with a lot of beautiful wildlife around here. Been a nice spring, good for growing hay.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Steve: the pillars of the capitalist system

Steve, this is not capitalism in its original form, it is _new-liberalism_. BTW give Karl Marx Nobel Prize in Economics in postume. (Our friend Steve is a clever guy and it doesn't take too much of time for him to see that there is not such a thing as Nobel Prize in Economics, but... :-)


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Richards and Levon Photo


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon and Tom Photo


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon Helm Band photos
bmvyradio at MerleFest 2008


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...another one of Levon by Joe Parisi.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Caricature of Levon


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Posted by:

Steve

Good thing the US gov't doesn't run the banking, car or oil business, could you imagine the rhetoric coming out of the Tea Bag camp after the last two years if it did?.

You would think that after watching the pillars of the capitalist system first demolish the financial system and now the environment of their country they'd all be headed right past socialism and straight to pure communism.

How do you make the argument now that too much gov't is the problem and should get out of the way to let the market place sort things out. Is there still a receptive audience out there for this sort of rubbish?

Is there a leader of The Tea Bag Party, a Grand Poobah Hot Head who actually gets to wear The Tea Cozy?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Interesting links and points on Long. The “All The Kings Men” article from BEG’s link was excellent, and Randy Newman in Rednecks was swiping out in BOTH directions, I agree. While Newman is undoubtedly an intellectual, David, he is neither British nor (as far as I know) clairvoyant. He does have songs about clairvoyance in “The Frog and The Princess” though.

Also that Good Ol’ Boys concert sounds an event of a lifetime. John Cale doing Paris 1919 complete with orchestra hit me as one of the best half dozen shows I’ve senen in my life, just two weeks ago.

But praising Huey Long is akin to praising Mussolini (a man Long allegedly admired enormously) for having the trains run on time, which indeed he did. Long was a fascinating and complex character, and I’ve been interested since reading Robert Penn Warren’s novel (Penn Warren denied it was purely about Long), and seeing the original 1949 film. My politics lecturer at university did a third year special course of fascism in the 1920s and 1930s in USA and Britain, with Long, Father Coughlin and Oswald Moseley (UK) as the major figures. Coughlin (supported by Henry Ford) was a downright anti-semite with none of the positive aspects of Long. Though Long wasn’t as overt, he sought Coughlin’s support. He also declined to stand up against the KKK. Fascism isn’t simply an insult, but a political system with a strong egalitarian aspect … but only for those of the “right” race and colour. Hitler didn’t like the rich, nor was he liked by them either. Undoubtedly Long shook up the system, improved education and the lot of poor whites. Undoubtedly a Long presidency, had it ever happened, would have been smiled upon by both Hitler and Mussolini.

Let’s say that singing “Kingfish” straight, as Levon does so well, probably brings out the irony more strongly, but only IF you know something about Long. And with the stuff happening in the Gulf, the whipping Standard Oil line has resonance and works. That was the bit on the news last night that knocked me sideways. So they’ve been saying 800,000 (litres? barrels? gallons?) a day, but actually it might have been 3,800,000 a day? They just forgot to put the three in front or what?

On ladt night’s TV news, Obama dropped strongly in my estimation with the bit about his daughter coming to the bathroom while he was shaving and saying “You have to plug it, daddy” or whatever. Come on, it’s a crisis, not an extra verse to “Old Shep.” That comment really was insulting the intelligence of the public. It’s the sort of sentimental tripe you’d expect from Bush or Reagan. I thought this guy was above that.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: adam, peter v, norm at dunquerque

two very excellent analyses... I wonder if levon's take on the song is resonant of that nostalgia that looks at the blitz, for example, as the good old days ... Hence the singer is remembering that old thugs hey long as a man of the people, and blocking out the bad... Also, I can't believe westcoaster was at dunkirk - if he was, the gawdamn limeys would have been inspires to kick nazi butt all the way to berlin, and the war would have ended in 1940 ...


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Posted by:

Adam

More thoughts on Kingfish:

Randy's page on Wikipedia describes the song Rednecks as "a song that seems to criticize both southern racism and the complacent bigotry of American north-easterners who stereotype all southerners as racist yet ignore racism in northern states. This ambiguity was also apparent on Kingfish and Every Man A King."

I really don't think the song is supposed to be as simple as "the song is ironic because Long was a villain." I think that by singing it the way he does, Newman is providing an intentionally ambiguous picture of Long. The lyrics suggest he was a man of integrity, but the way Newman sings it suggests both the opposing view of Long and the dual nature of politicians in general. I searched for articles or interviews about the song, and found this quote:

"Newman's fascination with Louisiana led him to books about the state’s legendary governor Huey Long, known as the Kingfish, who used the 1927 flood to stoke rural resentment against the big-city bosses and to win his first term the next year. As John M. Barry wrote in “Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and How It Changed America” (1997), the most powerful businessmen in New Orleans illegally dynamited levees to make sure the city stayed dry."

If Newman was researching the subject and read books on Long, I'm sure he had a pretty good understanding of him as a man and the opposing views on him. While I agree that it's possible Levon sang the song straight and left the Long story behind, I do think by singing it the way he does only highlights the ambiguity of the song even more.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: End of an ERA!

Willie Nelson.......cut his hair off!!!!!


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: All The King's Men

I attended Randy Newman's concert in Atlanta on Oct. 5, 1974 where he performed "Good Old Boys" in its entirety with the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, with Ry Cooder on guitar and Mr. Newman's uncle Emil conducting. He also performed some of his other works, including several from the "Sail Away" album. It should be noted that Good Old Boys was written and recorded in the wake of the Watergate scandal and Richard M. Nixon's resignation. "Mr. President (Have Pity On The Working Man) was recorded on the very day that Nixon left office.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band
1974-1976


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band
August 1976
Western Massachusetts, near Tanglewood.
Thanks to joiseyboyy


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Huey P. Long, Sean Penn, Katrina, & Non-Random Acts of Kindness


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Posted by:

Adam

I remember reading something that said how Levon and friends were hanging out after a Ramble, and a discussion about Huey Long came up. I'm pretty sure Levon talked about him in a positive way. I don't claim to know much about politics, but it really seems like Long was misunderstood by a lot of people, and was definitely not the villain many portrayed him as. It seems like he truly did care about his people and would do whatever it took to get things done. I don't know if this is inaccurate or not, but I almost think of Long as an Albert Grossman-type character.

Randy Newman's song is still hard to understand for me. With the way Randy sings it, the way Levon sings it, and all the information out there on Long (both positive and negative), it's hard to figure out what the song is truly saying.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Kingfish

I looked up what I wrote when Electric Dirt came out. Like the goldfish in Ani di Franco's Little Plastic Castles, looking back at stuff is totally new every time, but I said much the same then.

I went straight to Randy Newman's original to compare. Randy had a more avant-garde arrangement, but the Levon Helm horn one works better in the context. I prefer the Randy Newman vocal interpretation, more clearly sly and ironic. Levon sings it now (as he did with The Band) as if it's without any irony. He did know that Huey Long was considered a prime example of burgeoning fascism in America, didn't he? Or does he just like demagogues? The Band performed both Kingfish, and Louisiana 1927 from the Good Ol' Boys album in the late 80s/early 90s, and neither Rednecks or Baltimore from that album throw in the irony with subtlety. So maybe Levon singing it straight is deliberately more ironic. More likely to me is that he couldn't resist lines like I'm a cracker, you are too or Who looked after shit-kickers like you, and that the tale of whippin' Standard Oil resonates so well in 2009, that the Huey Long story disappears behind it.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Kingfish

Peter: I'm well aware of Mr. Newman's use of irony and I'm sure Levon is as well. As a Southerner of a certain age, he's more than likely all too aware of the demagoguery factor in politics. And one doesn't have to be British, an intellectual, or clairvoyant to understand the subtleties of expression.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Lars, I was set up. You know how Reverend Billy operates yourself from bitter experience. Anyway, you have to admit I cut you in for 10% in exchange for the Isle of Wight (and believe me, you got the better end of the deal).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Kingfish comes from the album "Good Ol' Boys" and sits next to Rednecks, Birmingham and others on Randy Newman's best album. Think about the rest of the album and the title. I think they pretty much nailed the Huey Long type in "O, Brother Where Art Thou."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, by 90s, I include 2000s (I have Band versions from the 90s).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Kingfish

David P: Yes, but unfortunately the "Kingfish" i.e. Huey Long is held up as an example of fascism operating in 1920s / 1930s America, and (as in "Short People") Randy Newman was being ironic, not praising Long. I'm not entirely sure the 90s versions by Levon understood Newman's intent.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Thought???

Steve, have you ever actually had a thought of your own? Or....is your whole running of the mouth based entirely on copying dates & figures you get from all your internet sources??

For one example, if the Jewish people had not been treated in such an inhumaine, disgusting & dispicable manner they probably would have a much different mind set than has evolved from that "man"...monster.

With all respect to German people, who are a great people, but the old expression, "there's one in every crowd" unfortunately still harbours some of his supporters.

Not long ago while over in Courtenay, at my Credit Union, I noticed the p/u truck of an old friend across the street at the Mex pub. I went across the street to say hi to the old fellow, and I had a beer with him. There are a lot of old guys that while away their afternoons having a few beer together and reliving events I suppose.

There is this German guy, I guess late sixties or so. As a few of us jawed away, some how he got into the conversation, and for the life of me I can't figure how he swung that conversation to WW11, but he got right carried away, and very indignantly proclaimed that there was no "Holocaust", it was all bullshit. It was sort of like some one wanting to commit suicide. Many of those old guys that hang out there all have "Veteran" lisence plates on their vehicles. The Comox Air Base, where many of them ended serving out their days, is a stones throw from there. For a few minutes, I thought I was gonna have to break up a linching party he pissed some of those old guys off so much. I often wondered what would motivate a guy to do that, in that company. Surely he must have been around there long enough to know what they were about.

So Steve, don't waste too many seconds of your valuable time. I'dn it time for you to be out throwing stones, instead of thrashing them all around in here. Doesn't your wife whip your backside to get you to work once in a while any more?.....or did she just plain give up?????


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Posted by:

Deb

Web: My link

Norm, and anyone else who might be interested, at the link above is a heartfelt piece written by a commercial fisherman from Louisiana. Here's an excerpt:

"I am not real emotional and consider myself a pretty tough guy.You have to be to survive as a fisherman. As I left that scene, tears flowed down my face and I cried. Something I have not done in a long time, but would do several more times that day. I tried not to let my grandson, Scottie, see me crying. I didn't think he would understand, I was crying for his stolen future. None of this will be the same, for decades to come. The damage is going to be immense and I do not think our lives here in South Louisiana will ever be the same. He is too young to understand. He has an intense love for our way of life here. He wants to be a fisherman and a fishing guide when he gets older. It is what he is, it is in his soul, and it is his culture. How can I tell him that this may never come to pass now, now that everything he loves in the outdoors may soon be destroyed by this massive oil spill? How do we tell this to a generation of young people, in south Louisiana who live and breathe this bayou life that they love so much, could soon be gone? How do we tell them? All this raced through my mind and I wept."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

..."Or we're the future. No future! Sex Pistols

I guess I'll be cheering for my brother's team now. Go Hawks!


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Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: It time to whup ass...

Some of the most impassioned criticism of President Obama's response to the oil spill crisis has come from the Left, in the form of heart-felt rants from former Clinton strategist James Carville, a Lousianian currently living in New Orleans. His comments have included urging Mr. Obama to tell BP "I'm your daddy, I'm in charge, you're going to do what we say..."

Unfortunately, when it comes to the power of political influence wielded by the big oil companies, some things never seem to change. Flash back to Huey Long in 1924:

"Who took on the Standard Oil men
And whipped their ass
Just like he promised he'd do?
But ain't no Standard Oil men gonna run this state
It's gonna be run by folks like me and you."

--from "Kingfish" by Randy Newman, performed by Levon Helm on "Electric Dirt" (link above).


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: A neutral position

Subject: Would Rev Billy actually go after Peter Viney?

Peter-
Rev Billy is pretty doggone mad. Says you gave him Poole's mineral rights in exchange for you not having to serve time on that morals rap a couple of years back. Says he's gonna find and grease you. Wants to borrow a RPG to take on the plane to Heathrow. I still haven't decided because he hasn't offered me enough money yet. But it's just a matter of time.... I could use some cash to buy some annuals for my gardens.

*****************************************************

Charles Lightoller, the Second Officer of the Titanic, was retired and living quietly in England when the Dunkirk evacuation took place. He played a heroic role in the "miracle." Another fellow who was there, but refuses to talk about it, was Norman Jones. You can bet Westie was cursing the Luftwaffe when he manuevered his tug into the Dunkirk waters.


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Posted by:

Peter V

In fact, BP drill about 3 miles from my house in Poole Harbour, as I said. They are planning much more drilling in Poole Bay.


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Posted by:

Steve

Norm, do you actually think Adolph influenced the orbit of the planet? I've never given that any thought. I'll give it a couple of seconds later.

Bill, of course, Beyond Petroleum, is headed to the Arctic. After all the work they've done to help make it ice free they've earned the right.

Obama, sure hasn't come through this unsoiled. I'm sure the Tea Party dudes would like to make this stick to him then douse him with some dispersant.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Dick Cheney should have been jailed for any number of reasons 2000-2008 but the most underplayed part of this story is the deregulation he encouraged/signed off on that allowed these big oil firms to set up rigs with no real tests to pass at installation and no safety contingencies once up and operating..............Awful also how the media has just completely forgotten about the 11 people who died at the start of this tragedy ...........Just keep lowereing those taxes and giving biig business all they want.......Drill Baby Drill..... What was it Johnny Rotten said on his last show with the Pistols...."Ever feel you've been cheated?"


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Posted by:

Bill M

Deb: Where are they going to look for a replacement? The Arctic, obviously. Lotsa clean water, not so much vegetation, farther from prying eyes ...


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: switching channels here ...

This evening on CBC Radio 2 at 7:00 Eastern you can hear Colin Linden and group headlining/hosting a show taped earlier this year called "Canada Raves on the Blues". Other artists include Roxanne Potvin, Sue Foley, Jimmy Bowskill, Garrett Mason and Curley Bridges. Should be online as well.


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Posted by:

Deb

I am Norm. I'm sick and angry. I don't care how much money BP throws at the problem once they stop the leak. Where do they go to buy a new Gulf of Mexico?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Interesting......very!

Farm buoy making an understatement........yes.....yes....very interesting....and regarding Hitler!

Did anyone ever wonder where the world would be now, had there not been Hitler???

Just watching the news, in all seriousness, is anyone else nausiated the way I am watching all the wildlife in that oil????


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I think the explanation is quite simple. Of the two words that comprise, Evil Genius, one does not apply to Hitler.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The decision by Hitler to pause for three days before renewing a flat out assault is one of the most debated of WW2 with weird and wonderful theories. One is that he was superstitious about the rapidity of the advance and expected disaster; another that the tanks were being preserved for other actions; another that he was busily plotting for a British surrender and placing Edward VIII on the throne and thought the troops would be future allies. The consensus is that he thought them trapped like fish in a barrel against the sea so could take his time shelling and bombing without losing men in a land assault, so the three days indecision gave the British time to organize the rescue. Looking this up now, the British general thought they’d got most off by June 4th, but Churchill insisted they return and rescue a further 26,000 French troops (they’d already taken off 100,000 French, Belgian, Polish and Dutch troops). Something De Gaulle was never that grateful for!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

How To Become Clairvoyant

Yesterday I heard on the radio Levon singing Dixie as he was honoured for his 70th birthday!


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, I think we can safely say Hitler was insane and not a rational thinker.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Dunkirk

I've read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" twice. A superb book on the age of Hitler and World War II. The author William L. Shirer, asserts that Hitler sat on his hands that day as German troops eager to pounce and destroy what was left of the armies. Instead they watched the evacuation happen right before their eyes. It was the beginning of one of the more puzzling military moves Hitler would do that would lead Germany to failure.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Not "ruling" the waves, but …

I don’t know about ruling the waves. Just listened to the morning radio. Today people are remembering the Dunkirk evacuation of 1940, when over nine days 338,000 British and French troops were evacuated from the beaches of Dunkirk by a flotilla of 850 boats, including 700 small fishing boats, ferries and pleasure craft. The scenes are graphically rendered in the film “Atonement.” We revel in celebrating a calamitous defeat perhaps, but the report brought back personal memories. When I was a kid, some of the pleasure boats taking people around Poole Harbour still proudly bore Dunkirk brass plates. Some were no more than large open wooden boats designed to carry 20 people on short pleasure trips around the harbour. They sailed them 170 miles to Dover and spent nine days ferrying back and forth. They still had the marks of bullets and shrapnel, and carried well over double their “licensed load” of people meaning they were very low in the water and slow moving. I remember reading the plate as a boy and my dad taking me over to shake hands with the boatman (who he knew) and saying, ‘Shake hands with a hero.’ He also pointed out that here was a hero who had saved lives, not taken them.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Bill M: Just caught up with your post...

They speak about a 10% difference between UK, US, Aus and NZ... that's all I have to say about it! ;)


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Oil Britannia, Britiannia Oils The Waves

Seems Britiannia still rules the waves, even in the good old US of A. I listened to an interview with two photo journalists who cover these kinds of man made disasters, renowned Canadian photographer, Edward Burtynsky and Pulitzer Prize winning photo journalist, Ted Jackson, of The New Orleans Times Picayune.

Both had tried to photograph the site of the oil well in the Gulf and had their flight plans rejected when they disclosed they were journalists.

Actually what happened is they were denied permission to fly at less than 3,000 feet above the well.

According to them you can only get photos that show good detail at about 700 or 800 feet. At first no one would tell them who was denying permission but they eventually found out it was BP. Bp seems to have some control over that American air space.

Peter, I would have thought that a Robologist would have researched Robbie's choice of attire for the interviews in TLW. I may take you up on the T shirt exchange. I'm not sure if I can find a Toronto shirt here in Quebec. It's so incorrect in so many different ways.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Calvin........scroll back to Friday's posts and there was a discussion on the new RR song.....most really liked it, some didn't and a few were vague......Just like there is usually a gem or two on most McCartney releases ( especially of late ) and also with John Fogerty........let's hope the new RR has this and more.........................Not knowing any of the details but thinking that the folks selecting material for a Vampire show would have probably been looking for something a little off kilter or atmospheric - "How to become a Clairvoyant" fit well...........Robbie's son informed us some months back that the album had lots of guitar and some of RR's best writing since NLSC.................the last time he took 12 years between albums we got the excellent 1987 debut with beauties like "Showdown at Big Sky"..."Somewhere Down the Crazy River"..."Fallen Angel"....."Sonny got Caught by the Moonlight" and "Broken Arrow".....Let's hope for all Band fans that we get a similar number of great new songs.......I wonder if Clapton and Winwood's decision to do "The Shape I'm In" on their current tour has anything to do with time that they recently spent with Robbie in the studio.........If only Robbie would have the great Stevie Winwood handle the vocals on 5 or 6 of the songs then we might better be able to judge where his writing is at................or at least allow those put off by his voice to more fairly judge where it is at.........


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Woodstock/Big Pink

Tim, I've stayed at the Holiday Inn in Kingston several times -- it's ah . . . . a Holiday Inn, OK, but not great. I know there is a relatively new Hampton Inn there also. Either of these choices would be preferable, to me, compared to lodging in Woodstock "proper."

Yes, do go see Big Pink. The folks are nice but I've heard they ask that you don't go up to the house and look in the windows (folks sometimes like to try to look into the garage/basement windows?) Be patient when looking for it . . . you'll find it eventually! Take photos and send them to Jan H. to post 8-)

Would reccomend The Bear Cafe -- is it still there? I couldn't find the website, but maybe the site is just down.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Jan H, I'm almost finished with The Girl Who Played With Fire after reading The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Brilliant and highly recommended to all here. I only wish the author included a pronunciator for those of us unfamiliar with Swedish, although that doesn't detract from the books one iota.


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Posted by:

Calvin

From what I've understood what eventually became Ice Hockey could be claimed by dozens of nations, including some First Nations in Canada. But the formal rules that Hockey still more or less goes by, and the change from Ball to Puck, happened in Canada 130-1400 years ago. SO much like the USA claims to be the home of Baseball, when it is clearly derivative of Cricket, the claim is based on the moment games somewhat like Hockey became Hockey happened in Canada. That seems right to me.

Any here the new Robbie cut? I dont think its near as good as Shine Your Light, his vocals (Which only really work in certain circumstances) just dont cut it here, although the guitar work and overall music is strong.

Happy BDay to Levon of course.

I went through a big Bootleg period for several years and I own 40 of the Dylan/Band Tour from 74. And an Anthology. TO my knowledge though there are only a handful of Soundboards. A Boston Gardens Show, Cap Centre, 2 MSQs, an Alameda County and a LA Forum show. I still own the others, as the completist in me wont let me toss them, but I only listen to the SBDs.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Happy Birthday, Levon Helm!

All the best from us at the Band web site to the greatest singing rock drummer ever on his 70th birthday. Long may you run, Mark Lavon Helm.

You fans may post your birthday greetings here or in Levon´s guestbook (link above).


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Posted by:

Peter V

No, Norm. You are not talking to a comp0010001110100010010001110101110


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Automation

That's really funny Joan. Could it be we are just talking to computers????


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norm

Be glad you did not OWE them 5 cents. They would have dunned you for forever. We know someone who some years ago received a bill for $0,00. he of course threw it away. And the next month same thing. He began to get threatening letters after a while so finally he sent them a check for $0.00. That did the trick. The bills stopped.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Sorry , I was lazy. Just googled. The book is "Corsairville" by Graham Coster, and the forced landing was in the Congo.


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Posted by:

Peter V

There were all sorts of issues with the 2010 World Cup. Members of FIFA were determined to put it in Africa (worth lots of votes on the committees), and South Africa was the only viable choice, I’d think. Then I guess there’s that “Invictus” factor which was probably romanticized in the movie. You are going to have hell of a lot of world class stadiums left at the end of it! Let’s hope they never get used as Chile’s post World Cup stadium was. All these things (like the 2012 Olympics here) have got so phenomenally expensive and the boosters say they create jobs. The papers were full of organized crime links to the sites this week. You can see that roads and better rail links might change an area, but there are a lot of huge, impressive under-used stadiums crumbling on the outskirts of cities around the world.

There's a fascinating book about a town (in East Africa, I think). It's about a Flying Boat that did a forced landing on a river there in 1939 or so. The plane was too big to take off from the river, and so valuable at that point in time that it was worth their while building a road (or rail, don't recall) link so as to widen the river enough to get it off. Once they'd got it off after months of work, a town developed there, in the middle of nowhere, because it had a transport link. It was an odd story and very well-reviewed when the book came out.

Steve, while shopping today I saw a window display of a range of T-shirts, shirts and sweatshirts emblazoned with the slogan “Tough Enough To Wear Pink.” I can swap you one for one of those Mable Leaps T-shirts. It’ll go with your scarf.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

See above link for Nel Young taking dreary to a whole new level with the Grateful Dead..........anyone else catch Pearl Jam on Austin City Limits on the weekend? It may have been the worst live performance by a major group that I have ever seen.......dreadful stuff......


Entered at Wed May 26 16:28:25 CEST 2010 from (196.7.230.230)

Posted by:

Nux Schwartz

Location: South Africa
Web: My link

Subject: 2010 World Cup

PETER V:Did the soundtrack to this movie,some really disturbing takes on FIFA and the big players in general


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: the woods

Subject: Woodstock

TIM- I'm certainly no authority on Woodstock, but I can tell you a few things about what I have seen around that village.

As far as hotels/ motels, there are probably some B&Bs you could google. I would recommend that you consider Saugerties or Kingston's motels. They're not that far from Woodstock.

Big Pink is just a pink house to me, but you should see it at least once if you're a Band fan. I've heard that the recent owners are friendly to people who just want to stop and have a look.

Besides the shops in Woodstock and the excellent restaurants, you may want to visit Rick Danko's resting place. If you go to the center of town (notice the characters sitting on the bench as you go by) and take Rock Cut Road for about a half mile you'll come to a cemetery on your right. Turn in and drive up over the hill. Follow the road and bear left to get to the back rows of stones. Rick and Eli have stones that are level with the ground. They MAY have small Canadian flags next to their stones, it depends on the groundskeeper. I just ordered a couple and I'm going to try to put them in soon.

Woodstock doesn't take that long to see. Good luck.


Entered at Wed May 26 16:10:07 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458721.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.106.97)

Posted by:

Kevin J

sadavid: Versions of field hockey on ice were messed around with for sure in Europe and parts of North America but hockey - as we now know it - was invented ( read - organized with rules that still largely stand ) in Montreal in the 1800's......I had always thought Kingston Ontario but was convinced after reading a quite exhaustive study years back which was considered by most experts as being the definitive say on the topic.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I've been spending a fair bit of time ploughing through a recently acquired Neil Young Archives set (just the audio version). Some of the stuff is pretty dreary, but taken as a whole it's endlessly rewarding.

The dreariest of the CDs is a solo show at the Riverboat coffeehouse in Toronto in Feb '69, but even that has its points. It's nice that he introduces Bruce Palmer in the crowd. It's fascinating that he wrote "Sugar Mountain" while staying in Detroit with Chuck and Joni Mitchell, who proceeded to write "Circle Game" about HIS song; that actually makes a fair bit of sense, given that both songs are about leaving childhood behind, with carnival midways (with the Sugar Mountain ride surrounded by barkers and coloured balloons, and the carousel with the painted ponies going up and down) serving as the metaphor for the lost days of innocence. (Interesting that numerous Band songs also mention carnivals and the like, but generally in more salacious contexts - the places where you go precisely to lose or escape childish innocence.)

And it's neat that Jack Batten's review of the show ends with a series of disconnected snippets, as was/is the fashion when it comes to rock/pop reportage. There we get the following: "ANOTHER SCENE: Speaking of the band from Big Pink, they're leaving their place at West Saugerties, New York, some time this week to fly to Los Angeles to cut their second record. And later this year, in the summer, according to word I have, they're at long last launching a tour and they'll make a stop in Toronto ... Ian and Sylvia and their electric friends play their last Toronto-area date for awhile on Thursday night in Hamilton ... David Rea will turn up on that crazy TV program Sunday Morning on February 16; that gives everybody three good reasons to watch it; the other two are de B. Holly and Rosemary, the funny chick with the wild hair ... Good musical things stretch out ahead of us: BB King as Massey Hall on Feb. 14, Janis Joplin at the O'Keefe two days later, the Mothers of Invention at the Rock Pile Feb. 23 and on the following night, Earl Hines begins a two-week run at the Colonial."\m Another disc has an unreleased early version of "Everyone Knows This Is Nowhere" that is remarkable because of the repeated use of the signature dee-ling guitar bit from Gene Pitney's "Twenty-Four Hours To Tulsa" - for an album that would ultimately include "The Last Trip To Tulsa". (I suppose Neil could have been indicating that he thought Tulsa to be the ultimate in Nowhere.) A couple songs later you get the brilliant production piece, "The Old Laughing Lady", the intro to which could easily be taken for a song from Robbie Robertson's Native American or Redboy CDs; the rest of the song, with its fairly sophisticated working of First Nations elements would also fit those Robbie albums - and the chanting (by Merry Clayton et al) is very much like what the Coolidge sisters et al did on some of Robbie's songs.

The material on disc 6, stuff from 1970, shows Neil as perhaps the best friend that Greg Reeves has had his century; Reeves' bass sound is crystal clear and gorgeous throughout. And "Cripple Creek Ferry" is clearly a Band pastiche of Bandish elements - ragged harmonies, a riverboat, cripple creek itself ...


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: on the sports beat

1) Research proves ice hockey did not originate in Canada. See [My link].
2) The June issue of _Vanity Fair_ magazine has an A.A. Gill pre-WC-primer-for-North Americans essay on "the beautiful game" (emphatically not "soccer"). Unfortunately, the issue is marred by A. Liebovitz's smutty photos of mostly unclothed rich young athletes.


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Posted by:

tim

Location: Boston

Subject: going to woodstock

25 years after my only trip to woodstock im going back in August, can anyone recommend a reasonable hotel and make suggestions. can you visit big pink without getting arrested, or harrassed. Any other 'must see's" to recommend?? Thanks Tim


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Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, a terrible ignorance of football here. We fail every two years … there's the European Championship between the World Cups.


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: For fans of the 1990s version of The Band*

* and others too, naturally


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Posted by:

Fred

Steve: that's me...Mr. Eloquence AND Elegance. : )


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks, Fred, for putting that so elegantly or would that be eloquently. I'd say that the fans of both, England's kickers and Toronto's skaters ( I use that term loosely) have high expectations for each team and neither ever comes close to living up to them. Unlike Toronto though, England only fails every four years.

Peter, I'm hoping you'll take this as seriously as NB takes my clubbing of golf.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: True Blood 2

Got my copy this morning. I bought it for the superb Robbie "How to Become Clairvoyant", but the rest of the album is (largely) very good too. "Kiss Like Your Kiss" by Lucinda Williams & Elvis Costello is the other new track that leapt out on first hearing, but high marks for M. Ward's unusual take on Howlin' For My Baby (which The Hawks used to do), the oldies by Junior Walker and 13th Floor elevators. The Buddy & Julie Miller is another good one.The Dylan fits well. Definitely more than a "one track" album, though there is some stuff I didn't like (Beck for instance).


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Maple Leafs vs Ingurland

Peter V: the comparison is this---both haven't won shit all since the 1960s and won't win any trophies in the foreseeable future, either. : )


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Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, I have no idea of how the Toronto Maple Leafs compare to other softball or ice-hockey or basketball teams (I don’t even know which one they play) so their comparison with the England national football team escapes me entirely. I assume they’re very good but also paid ridiculous sums of money? On the other hand I’m always grateful for free knitwear, so please send the jersey. I didn’t realize that ice-hockey was played naked, never having seen it, but that may account for its appeal as a spectator sport. It sounds very dangerous to me with all those sticks flying about, trying to hit the hockey fuck. Is that how it got its name?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Plays like Levon

Well I'm glad you said that Bonk. I would like to have, but every body would probably have thought, "oh sure". Lorne Burns is one of those types. His drums are tuned "perfectly" all the time. His snare sounds like Levon Helm. Tuned to that sharp 'crack", like a marching band snare. His timing and music in drums, spot on.

Some time back on this page, I recall commenting about my band back in the 80's. Five of us, none of us smoked, all five sang, similar to the BAND, in that four of us were Canadian, with one southern gentleman. Rick Dunn the steele player was from Spartanberg, South Carolina,

I'll have to tell Lorne, my brother. He and Lorne Burns also are good friends. I will most certainly find the time to get over to Salt Spring some time this summer with my cabin cruiser. Love the place, haven't been there in a long time. To give an example, if anyone recalls listening to Ray Benson, (Asleep at the wheel) sing, "Way Down Texas Way", or Charlie Daniels sing, "The Souths Gonna do it Again", that is just what it's like listening to Lorne Burns sing.

Thank you Bonk, very exciting to hear of my old friend again.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: NORM and LORNE BURNS

Oh my god. Same dude. I work with his wife Marie every Thursday at the Liquor store and she will be getting your e-mail. Lorne's doing a double header this Friday and Saturday at the Fulford Inn and it should be a blast. This cat can play like LEVON! Come on down. It's only 28 miles as the crow flies but I know, a lot of hours by car. Take care, C


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Lorne Burns

Well Shit! Bonk, if that's the same Lorne Burns, he's originally from Saskatchewan. He played the drums with me for a long time, and my brother Lorne as well.

He was also the drumer for 6 Cylinder, with Wayne Bassett who playes all the keys on my CD. Lorne is one of the best friends I'll ever have. A brilliant drummer, and great singer as well.

I haven't seen Lorne for a few years now, so be sure to say hello for me, and give him my e mail. Thanks Bonk.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: NORM

Hey Tugman. Something just came to me. The benefit we held a month ago for little Chris Jason, which was a fantastic success, had, like I said a bunch of old west coast blues players etc. in attendance. Aunty Kate, Brent Shindell, Dave Rolland. On the day of the gig 2 drummers booked off sick and after a lot of scrambling they found a dude who lives here on Salt Spring to fill in by the name of Lorne Burns. Awesome freaking drummer. Same cat that you know? Just wondering.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Ride Me Down Easy

Gawd damn it David! Now you got all those old songs rolling round in my head that I played for so many years.

So I picked up my guitar and I'm playing "Ride me down easy". I wish you were here to fill me in some good licks.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: How To Become Clairvoyant

Additional info on the song from the liner notes for the TRUE BLOOD 2 soundtrack CD: It was produced by Robbie Robertson and Marius DeVries. Courtesy Bella Coola Records.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Old Five & Dimers

David; That couldn't have been more perfect,....and accurate. I always been an old five & dimer.

It's taken me so long, but now that I know I believe,

All that I do and say is all that I ever will be.

Too wide & too high and to deep and to much to be,

Too much ain't enough for old five and dimers like me.

And an old five and dimer is all that I ever will be.......

Just yesterday in the paper, a head line said "Manchester United" had been knocked off the top, of the most high priced of ALL sports world wide. I didn't bother to go into it tho', to see who it was that was worth more now. I'm pretty sure it ain't Tiger.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, by the by it was Kevin, but I thought he meant the other 5 played naked like real men, insinuating the 15 Canadians were wusses for regularly dressing for the games.

Peter, how can you take the World Cup seriously when you know so many games are fixed?

Kevin, England is The Toronto Maple Leafs of The FIFA Cup. We should send Peter a jersey like the one Robbie wore in TLW so he can wear it during England's matches. Once they fall far enough behind in a match he can catch flies and rip their wings off to take out his frustration.


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Posted by:

David P

westcoaster:

"Too far and too high and too deep ain't too much for me
Too much ain't enough for old five and dimers like me"
--Billy Joe Shaver


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Thanks, but for a real howler, how 'bout Pat's post: "15 of the 20 players regularly dressed are Canadians". Since women still aren't allowed on NHL teams, I have to assume that the five in skirts are Scots.

Further to my Band-as-blank-slate slate comment from this morning, I have an image of the second Band Songwriters' Circle - again hosted by Levon, who already knew about Americana. "Boys, I'm gonna try again to learn ya somethin' 'bout the Civil War - and this time I don't wanna hear no shit about no cavaliers 'n' roundheads."


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Posted by:

Pat B

Wolfgang's Vault also has the '74 LA Forum shows and a number of Band standalone sets from the tour.


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: '74 Tour

There's an awesome soundboard recording of the Madison Square Garden show up at Wolfgang's Vault. I think this is definitely one of the best shows from that tour, and it sounds great.

http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/bob-dylan-and-the-band/concerts/madison-square-garden-january-31-1974-set-1.html


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: It's solved!!!!!!

Quit usin' that gawd damn word, "accurate" all the time, or I'm comin' over there and chew yer ears off right down to your belt buckle.......you are anything but accurate. Matter of fact yer about as accurate as National Lampoon!

Well Susan solved it. While walking thru Zellers one time, jeez.....maybe 3 years ago this woman annoyed me so much about a Zellers Mastercard, I took one just to shut her up.

I used this thing one time, for less than $100. When the statement came I looked at the interest they would charge. 29.9% Thats gawd damn Mafia interest! So I sent them the money, and some how overpaid by a nickel. I warned them it would be best to grease the card up real good so it didn't hurt to much to shove it!..... Now all this time later I get a cheque for a nickel......which I will mount and frame above my desk.

Right you are Kevin. I was going to go into that Canadian content thing, but decided to leave it for a while, hoping some one else would........thank you.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, eschew these parochial pastimes. There is only one "world sport" and that's because the skill levels leave "hockey" and "softball" and the degraded form of rugby which Americans call "football" trailing in the dirt.

That's REAL football. The game the whole world plays and enjoys, Forget these crap ersatz "North American" so-called sports and gear up for the genuine thing. SOUTH AFRICA 2010 WORLD CUP.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The true farmlands of Ulster County

Subject: City Slickers get to be farmers, too.

Would the gentleman "weekend" farmer from Quebec have anything done today? And you call yourself a farmer....sitting in front of a computer all day with an open bottle of rye whiskey. When's the last time you put in a real day's work, you sorry-ass excuse for a proletariat.

I saw a osprey gliding over the treetops this morning, down by the brook. They really are a beautiful bird.


Entered at Tue May 25 21:26:39 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458721.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.106.97)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Some interesting tidbits to consider:

* Chicago is the most Canadian of all teams in the NHL - 15 of the 20 players regularly dressed are Canadians........Philly is well represented also having had more Canadians on their team than the Canadiens.....

* While the nation that invented hockey ( Canada ) has continued to dominate the sport winning the majority of "best on best" competitions since they started in 1972 ( World Cups 1972, 1976, 1984, 1987, 1991, and 2004 ....plus Olympics 2002 and 2010 )....England - inventors of soccer in the 1800's won the initial World Cup in 1966 but have not had a sniff since! Why does it always seem to be Brazil, Germany, France or Italy that win and never England..................Canada loses occasionally in hockey ( 1981 to Russia, 1996 to USA ) but why can't England win one of these "best on best" tournaments............Will this be their year?

* I found myself humming "How to become a Clairvoyant" all weekend..............is it time for Band rehab?


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, you missed what could have been a brilliant career in sit down comedy.


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Posted by:

Steve

It would be more accurate to say, no Markov, on the power-play no power-play, Norm. No Markov, no quarterback on the power play. With Markov in the lineup they were 27 wins 15 loses. Without him they were 15 wins 27 loses. That's if you split shootout wins and loses evenly.

In spite of the fact he missed all those games when he did play the power-play was so much better that for the year they had the 2nd highest ranked power-play in the league percentage wise. They also had the fewest power-play opportunities in the league.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: I guess you could say that. There was a thing in the paper this morning about the Flyers beating the fabled Montreal Canadiens, so they must be good. I think the game was yesterday; did you see it?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The "TAKE" on things, by an Authority!

I was quite surprised to see Chicago dispatch San Jose so quickly. San Jose had looked pretty sharp handling Detroit.

The lack of depth of the Canadians became apparrent, although their guts & grit has to be applauded. However coming on strong, and not giving up late in the third period looked good, not being able to score on an almost 4 minute power play showed........no depth on the power play.

Watching the style of play of Philidelphia tho', I don't see them as much of a match for Chicago. In the final minutes of the Chicago last game, it was a chuckle to see the look on Bobby Hull's face.

DAVID! You got to explain this to me. In the mail today, I get a letter from Atlanta, Georgia. From, HBC Credit, with the GE emblem on the corner of the paper.

Based on a resent review, we have made a credit adjustment for your account. Because your account has a zero balance, attached is a check for the adjustment amount.

The gawd damn cheque is for 5 cents! It cost probably 20 times that for the paper, postage, and to run the cheque! Who in hell sends a cheque for 5 gawd damn cents????? Is this your idea of a joke??? Well I ain't cashin' it. Just to really screw up the bean counters. The thing is....I don't ever even remember doing any business with this outfit nohow :):):):)


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, would the Buffalo Bisons have been the Hawks top farm team back in the early 70's? I'm still trying to figure out if that huge guy I think I remember the Hawks bringing up part way through the finals with MTL, really existed.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, you mean the most corrupt sport outside of unsanctioned bare knuckle fighting?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, I'll stay with perverse. Go Hawks.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, I'm not a big B-ball boy but I think when they refer to the boards in B-ball they're talking backboards, those thingies about 10 feet above the floor. So I'm guessing you're taking the FLY in Flyers, literally.


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Posted by:

calvin

Ben, I have pretty much the entire 74 tour, although many our aud. Email at cvan3064 at AOL dot com.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Don't worry, South Africa 2010 starts soon.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Are you kidding? After just ten minutes of being jumped and skated on by the Flyers the boards'd be so lacerated that the Celtics wouldn't have a hope of playing their usual game.


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Posted by:

Steve

Lars, don't want to commit yourself to either The Celtics or The Flyers I guess. Take the Celtics by 20 points, the Flyers don't have enough big men to handle the boards.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: ...and the losers just moan, "Shut up and deal."

Steve, you're so sensitive. I was congratulating the winners. I wasn't talking to you LOSERS.

I can't remember where I read about Robbie's "take" on being discovered, but it went something like "you keep playing until you get discovered,; of course, then you have to come through."


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

From the homepage.....a link to Clapton and Winwood playing "The Shape I'm in"..........quite good....


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the Fish Cheer, redux?

dlew: This one's for you. It's the tail end of a newspaper column about how sports, especially hockey but also soccer, bring Canadians together: "Soccer fields and arenas are the places where immigrants meet old-stock citizens and share the pure and simple joy of sport. And the Bell Centre, the Habs' home turf, is where they root in unison, with much gesturing and excitement and loud chants ..." And no wonder!

Peter V: I too found "Invisible Republic" hard to take, but mostly because Greil Marcus went out of his way to downplay our guys' creative role in the proceedings. Marcus ignores the points that Garth and Robbie make in quotes used in the book - that the Hawks brought material and ideas to the party - and sticks with the Hawks-as-blank-slate rendering that is fundamental to his approach to them in "Mystery Train".


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Posted by:

bob w.

Pat, I hope you and all the fans of the Blackhawks enjoy the series. It is always fun to be a part of it.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

My Hockey knowledge on a scale of 1 to 10 is about a 2. Black Hawks in 6.


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Posted by:

Steve

Lars, you seem to be following this ice hockey thing pretty closely. Who are you taking in the next round, The Flyers or The Celtics?

Pat, I'm still holding you personally responsible for our lack of offense in the semi finals.

Even after losing to Philly, it was a great post season for Habs fans. If only the regular season offered such intense games.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Band 74

Have a look on the various Dylan collector sites. The ones that used to be around were The Capitol Centre, Boston and NYC from Before The Flood tour. The desirable one (with a very different set list) is the opener in Chicago, but it was circulating on cassette. I saw a multi-CD set at a high price a couple of months ago of the 74 shows. I wasn't especially interested because it contained both LA shows in full (about half of the box set) … and that's where the official album comes from. But any Dylan connected stuff used to be heavily traded online. Haven't looked for a good while though.

Does Adam know of any?


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Back East

Subject: Stanley Cup finals on Sat.

PAT- Congratulations on your Blackhawks beating the Montreal Canadians and moving onto the Stanley Cup finals. Congratulations to the Phila. Flyers as well. May the best team win.....no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: In Conclusion!

Well you can keep your pencil to your black board....farmer, but........it don't make one I-ota of difference how many shots your Halak has stopped there. He ain't stopped enough, because.........he's gettin' his ass kicked.

I can't wait to hear all your statistics and excuses why tomorrow.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: Way After The Flood

Thanks, I am looking for DYLAN?BAND 74 stuff. Like if anyone does online trading. The "Like A Rolling Stone" book was a little less lofty, you might like that one. -gW


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, I didn't fault, No, Not Me!, just pointed out he's faced about a hundred less shots than Halak. I wouldn't attribute that to a great defense unless you call the forwards keeping the puck in the other team's end and controlling it there, great defense, then I would agree.

Happy Birthday to you,

Happy Birthday to you,

Happy Birthday, Dear Levon,

Happy Birthday to you


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Levon's territory

Subject: The Times Herald Middletown Record

Thanks for that article from our local paper The Middletown Record. The only thing missing from the actual newspaper was a front page photo of Levon & Amy, and the caption "Levon Helm at 70."

I'm glad to see that Levon is viewed as a local treasure ...which he is.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Levon's 70th

And the days run away like wild horses... see link above


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Performance rights

Perhaps as a solution to the problem, many restaurants and stores are using Sirius or XM Radio. They just pick a good channel and a good soundtrack is provided. I'm not sure what the monthly charge is, but I think it is reasonable.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, I wouldn't fault Niemi because the Hawks have a great defense. That's perverse.

First, learn the golf grip. Use the interlock. And remember, nice and light. It's like holding an open tube of toothpaste. You use toothpaste, don't you?


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, you do have a sense of humour after all. It's one of the reasons I keep coming back here, there's always more to discover.

When the Canadiens and Hawks last met in the finals I think I remember some huge( for the time) player that The Hawks brought up during the finals. I think his name was Dick something. I can't find his name on their roster. I don't think it was, Korab, I'm thinking of. You're the man to go to on this one.

Pat, don't get too excited over , No, Not Me!, the last two series have been against teams that are post season, fold your tent and go home teams.

The Sharks are well known for losing their bite once the exhibition season ends and the real games start.

I think Halak has faced about 100 more shots in the playoffs than, No Not Me! And while he usually thrives on lots of shots eventually the odds turn against you.

But we'll wait and see. Hopefully The Canadiens will show up for this game, if not, like all losers they'll be, no doubt, headed for the golf course saying, next year.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Pat, give the ploughboy a bye today as its his birthday. Tomorrow's another day. Go Hawks and go Byfuglien! 4 more wins and it will be the Leafs who will hold one of the more important yardsticks to futility. Happy B'day Steve!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Greil

Loved Mystery Train, found Invisible Republic extremely heavy going.

The 1974 shows that are around a lot by Van are The Troubador and Montreux, generally known as "If You Don't like It, Go Fu*k Yourself" after Van's comment to the audience. There are ZERO Van Morrison boots now at Record Fairs. Tons of Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, Dylan but nary a Van to be seen. He had guys go round and confiscate any bootlegs, with legal backup.


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Posted by:

joe J

Web: My link

Subject: shinny and the Queen's birthday

"Well, it's the 24th of May and we got to get away
Up in the woods or out around the bay..."

Can it be a coincidence that my favourite royal and my favourite songwriter share a birthday. I don't think so. And how about their mutual passion for lingerie marketing?

Link is to a song about hockey, what else? Go Leafs.

Anyway I'm gettin all duded up and am goin in to town where my youngest is convocating. Seems as if he got hired for some maintainance work on some website. I'm buying him some heavy boots and rain gear. I started off with a pick and shovel too. The missus has us signed up for ballroom dancing. I'll do anything for that lady but this is kind of pushing it. Better be some effin quid pro quo here.

And I'd be remiss if I didn't take this opportunity to wish Mr. Mark Lavon Helm a great one. Love to be there for the party. I'll burn one at the appropriate time.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: Dylan trading

Howdy. Did everybody see that Youtube thing about Rick Danko? I saw Griel Marcus taking about his Van Morrison book the other night. What do you think Peter V? I'm trying to get some of the 74 shows on CD. Does anybody trade this stuff anymore? Please note any suggestions you have, thanks


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, on further review-and against your arguments--we will keep our goalie Antti Niemi (.949 SA, 7 goals allowed in the SJ series--3 pp). Enjoy the summer. Take up golf.


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Posted by:

Steve

NB, you're starting to conflate, stay away from any open flames. Calling, Wild Bill, a minor league golfer wasn't a comment about a league he was playing in, ( though, possibly he was in a league of his own) it was a rating of the level of his skill. Minor league vs major league. Big time( Big Time, Bill, Big Time)vs small time. Big money vs little or no money.

With your level of contempt for facts I don't understand this sudden need for detailed accuracy. Is it only when golf is the topic?

There are golf leagues of course. The NCAA for example. The Ivy League must have a golf league that's in a league of its own.

Jules Vernes, 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, included at least one Canadian one, The Golf Of St Lawrence. Do I need to go on and on and on?

Sure I get concerned when political inaccuracies need to be put right, can have some importance. Golf, not so much. But to be fair the same should be said about all sporting activities. It's just that golf deserves special attention.

Norm, to put some numbers behind Gretzky's greatness, he scored 50 goals in 39 games, basically having a great season in less than half a season.

When he did it in 1981 ( I think) it was against, as you mentioned, a still formidable Flyers team. And being The Great One he did it in a great way scoring numbers, 46, 47, 48, 49 and 50 in the same game against the Flyers.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Performing rights

Performing Rights usually get an unsympathetic press in the UK. There was a case of them pursuing a therapist for playing meditation music or something which got averse publicity, but the key element is playing music as part of a business service for which you charge money (café, shop, dentist). I suspect this is why dentists etc so often have the radio on where a relaxation music CD would be better, though surely a pre-1959 recording of Bach would be free and just as effective? It’s one of the ones which seem justified to an artist but not to the general public and it’s hard to draw the line. Ditto DVDs, where it’s technically illegal to play them in (say) an old people’s home or creche without a licence. The PRS in the UK are vigorous in chasing these things.

I left the gym I went to because I always went early, and they had big MTV screens showing MTV with people singing and dancing, but the three or four body-builders who came daily insisted on having a drums and bass CD on to enhance their workouts. I found watching screens with the sound off, with people dancing, while different music played at a different rhythm totally disconcerting and disorienting. It was OK on machines with headphones where you could hear the TV sound, but a lot of machines didn’t have headphones. Many of us complained (suggesting the bodybuilders should use personal stereos) to no avail, so I voted with my feet.

There was a furore about live music here too with licensing premises. If someone is paid for singing, places need a licence. A woman who tours old peoples homes with a pianist singing songs of the 1940s for Alzheimer patients was complaining that she’s often fallen foul of licensing laws, even when performing for just seven or eight eldely people. The home then needs a licence. It was a very touching story, when she recounted that one elderly man who hadn't spoken a word in four years joined in loudly and tunefully on one song with tears running down his face. So you had to be on her side!

It’s a difficult one, and as so often it’s drawing that line through the fuzzy areas.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Chest fever

Thanks for posting that Lost Waltz video Tim. Looks like it was Robbie's turn to have problems with his guitar.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: For those interested in the business of music...

A fitness chain here has found paying performance royalties to artists too expensive, so have commissioned covers of tunes which are good to exercise to...

Discuss: what further ramifications are there for performers, but also for venues that play music. In NSW, they've recently overturned a license you required to play live music (the license was heavily supported by the poker machine (slot machine) lobby, who of course have a vested interest in not having live music in pubs et cetera). It does mean a few more gigs ... but will this type of thing kill it? And are there international equivalents?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Broad Street Bullies

I just get off the boat, and here you guys are full ahead into the hockey playoffs. The short lived domination of the broad streets, and remember the two main blues liners, Jimmy & Joe Watson were from Smithers in northern BC here.

You never crossed their blue line but horizontal. Bobbie Clark, (who was never supposed to make the NHL because he was a diabetic.) worked as hard as anyone ever did, and was the dirtiest player ever spawned. A surgeon with the butt end of a stick.

When the New York Islanders took over the #1 position, for 4 straight Stanley cups, the first team to give them a better challenge, (statistically) than Edmonton was Vancouver. However Edmonton gelled, and if you wonder how Gretzky could of handled the 70's, the Islanders, and Flyers were still in good form, with the experience and power still. Edmonton became a power and with skill than couldn't be matched. It doesn't matter what dumb shit that stoned farmer will try to dredge up.

For a long time I was not a fan of the arrogance and confidence of Gretzky and some of his team mates, but watching Gretszky and Jari Curry work, Paul Coffie and others of that bunch, was reminisent of watching some of the early Montreal teams with the "Pocket Rocket", the "Road Runner" and many others of that era.

Wayne Gretzky took his share of punishment, and was lucky enough to have a pretty resilient body. Look at the stick work guys like Bobbie Clark, who play that way used on Bobby Orr and what they did to his knees to slow him down. Besides he was a pretty big heavy boy and the torque his knees took from how he could power skate, (and get stuck in the knees with sticks) shortened his life of his legs.

Isn't it funny how the farmer will defend his Montreal fans, and in todays paper that I read on the way home, the remarks are the same. How the Montreal fans start to boo their power play line on the last game. It's all over for Montreal anyway.

Personally, in this "nothing but money" game of hockey, I could give a shit which town it is that wins the cup. It's particular players that we root for to see them win.

Not a basketball fan at all, but a great fan of Steve Nash from up here in Victoria. The other night, just before leaving home, I watched Steve, after getting his eye split open, and his nose broke, still come out and score 8 more points, in helping the Suns to an important win. That's balls and heart. That's the thing that's worth watching.

Here in Vancouver, although they are pretty good regular season players, the Swedish twins don't have the style or grit to go to the end in this league, and few here do. This Eurpoean style of play, for example taking to much time on the power play to "set up the perfect play in your own end", too many passes in the opposing end to get a clear or perfect shot, is bullshit. It's been proven for years. Shoot the gawd damn puck at the net! From anywhere, get rebounds. It don't have to look pretty every time. It's got to go in the net. At the end of the day, the guys with the highest gawd damn number win don't they??????


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Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: Chest Fever

Thank you Tim, The Band rocking out...Richard was having a rough time of it, maybe one of the reasons it didn't make the final cut...In the film, If my memory serves me well, Garth's intro is heard and just as the singing starts, they go Robbie talking about Garth being the only trained musician in the Band, and we hear Fever fade out, and so on...Great seeing this tho...


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: David P

Thanks. I play the Best of the Boxtops frequently, but overlooked the connection with Richard... and I've sat in the 'I Shall Be Released' chair in Stratford. 'The Letter' is still played from time to time on Scottish radio.

In the article, the one thing that Alex Chilton refused to talk to the Glasgow musicians about was the past...cheated out of money, the group breaking up.

Because of the GB and Bumbles in particular I bought 'The Best of Big Star'.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: chest fever video from the lost waltz footage


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Posted by:

Peter V

Love Reign O'Me is on the new one. That cliches it. Essential purchase, then.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Bettye LaVette Reigns Supreme

Peter: Ms. LaVette gave a preview of the promise of more great things to come back in December 2008, at the Kennedy Center honors ceremony, with her stunning performance of the Who's "Love Reign O'er Me". She stole the spotlight from the other famous performers that evening, as well as from the celebrities in attendence, including honorees George Jones, Pete Townsend, Roger Daltry and Barbra Streisand. A video of her amazing, gut-wrenching performance can be found on YouTube.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Alex Chilton

Dunc: Like Richard, Alex Chilton recorded a very soulful version of "I Shall Be Released", which he recorded as a member of the Box Tops. As he recorded so many great songs, this fine cover version is often overlooked, but well worth seeking out.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Stevon Golf

Are you "obviously taking it too personally" when you likewise don't allow political inaccuracies to go uncorrected here ? I'm sure I respond because I invented golf about as much as you respond because you invented politics.

Do tell me what you think you know about these non-pro "golf leagues", and how they are an apt classification for Wild Bill (whom I saw live in the PGA's '68 Citrus Open along with Nicklaus, Palmer, Gary Player, and Lee Trevino ?) NB


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Posted by:

Steve

OK, NB, I'll quit on the golf criticism, you're obviously taking it too personally. Did you invent the game?

There are golf leagues though, not pro leagues but I didn't say pro leagues. Thought you might like to know since you're really into the sport. I referred to " Wild Bill, as a minor league golfer, not a minor league pro golfer. Accuracy, accuracy.

I agree fully, Dunc, about Richard.

Pat, I watched 30 seconds of yesterday's Mtl\Philly game. When I saw how Gomez forechcked on his first shift, stopping skating two strides from the defenceman with the puck and gliding in with one hand on the stick trying to poke at it, I flipped off the TV and spent the afternoon in the garden. I only put in the time watching if they put in the effort as well.

I saw your team's last game, pretty good effort by both teams. The Big Buff is tough and can score to boot.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bettye LaVette

Just saw a review of Bettye LaVette's new album, "Interpretations: The British Rock Songbook" where she turns her soul voice to stuff like Maybe I'm Amazed, Wish You Were Here, It Don't Come Easy and Knights in White Satin. Sounds worth a listen.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: Oooops (again)

It should have been _employees_, not _employers_in Halden. But if I think it more closely employers would do as well.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Go to Facebook?

This anonymous signature "jh" who has posted here for many years was suggesting Facebook for personal antagonism. I'd like to tell this mysterious person that there is a town in Norway with the name Halden which has blocked Facebook for the employers. WAY TO GO, HALDEN!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Watkins Glen

Unfortunately I decided to give the (excellent and huge) Brighton Record Fair a miss today, partly because I'm spending too much on ancient vinyl, but also because it's bright and sunny at last which means the traffic for the 100 miles right along the South coast between Poole and Brighton will be horrendous.

That would have been the place to see any newly-found "live" recordings as they're euphemistically called. I'm going to Reading for the Whit Monday Record Fair. It's not as big as Brighton, but I'll look. I have an original Watkins Glen tape, as mentioned by Pat B in his superb investigative article. I also have one with the jams, though not as many as Adam mentioned. Haven't played them for years. I'll investigate.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Alex Chilton

There was avery good article in the Glasgow Herald yesterday on 'Teenage Fanclub' (not my era). What was interesting(to me) was how Alex Chilton influenced a whole generation of young Glasgow musicians.

He came to Glasgow in his forties, had a phenomenal repertoire, 'so disciplined as a musician', and his solo album 'Like Flies of Sherbert' was influential.

He enjoyed cycling around Glasgow, had a great interest in politics, was a very cultured guy, was aware of the history of Glasgow and other places he visited.

The Band link for me was that when I read about Alex Chilton I read about his problems with alcohol, not this well rounded character I read about yesterday.

And I thought about Richard. For a while I read about the downside ... not the creative writer(I love his songs), the phenomenal singer, the practising piano player, the young boy who moves to Toronto, who tours the world with Bob. You've to look at his whole life.

I'm always on the side of the performer. Getting up there and doing it night after night. It must take its toll.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Bonk

Bonk:This is an excellent article from Pat B.

Adam:I'll actively seek out Watkins Glen. I'll chase up Peter V who is a real help to us less knowledgeable British Banditos.

Jan H and other writers - thanks for the site and articles, which I read constantly. Although I'm a 'Johnny Come Lately' I've only been met by kindness in the GB.

Hope this does not make me sound 'crawlie'.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Dunc

Watkins Glen is Bogus??? I'v been hoodwinked!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Snuff Garrett

I was browsing records at the "Vinyl Day" in Bridport, Dorset today and noticed "50 Guitars Visit Hawaii" by "Tommy" Garrett. It turns out that this 1962 feast of pedal steel and ukuleles is actually by "Snuff" Garrett with all sorts of interesting connections. I never knew he was also responsible for this sort of easy-listening crap. I mean "material."

Some good finds otherwise. Lots of early Elvis Costello. Always worth picking up.


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Watkins Glen

Dunc, there's two ways you can obtain the new Watkins Glen bootleg. If you know how to do bittorrent, I can send you the link where I got it from. If not, you could maybe email the person who uploaded the torrent and see if they can send you a copy.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: trivia games

sporcle, the very addictive trivia game site has a few "The Band" games, not all that challanging but thought I would share one.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"The original version was off the No Reason to Cry album and has some great whammy bar and harmonics work by Robbie Robertson. I'm guessing the 12 string slide work was done by the late Richard Manuel also of The Band." (?)

George Terry

NB...We're off to.....you know where for the long Queen Victoria holiday weekend.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: albany, NY

Subject: Northr Lights Southern Cross - SACD

I agree with David P.'s assessment of the SACD version of NLSC. It really was quite a revelation listening to it. You really understand why Garth's nickname is honey boy. Mobile Fidelity did a great job on this disc.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Top 5 Mohawk Hairdos in History

Thanks Kevin J...I just downloaded the song.


Entered at Sat May 22 09:26:07 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458721.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.106.97)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Memories of Robbie's guitar work with Dylan and Clapton on Sign Language....too bad about the vinyl....but how distinctive is that playing...beauty.....


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Adam

Adam:I would love the album, Watkins Glen, but was never able to get it here and then the article on Jan's site said the album was not all recorded at Watkins Glen.

Enjoyed your posts Adam. I should have acknowledged that, but busy at work. So how do I get the new Watkins Glen, making sure those who are due royalties are paid? And is it all genuine?


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I mentioned it before about Garth playing the Chicago Stadium, jamming about on The Genetic Method imagining what a glorious noise he could get out of it. You mentioned that you had tha album. And as every true Hawk fan knows, our lucky number? 16,666!


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Posted by:

Pat B

btw, Landmark, I'm very impressed with the Al Melgard reference. Six keyboards, 883 stops and 40,000 pipes. Garth would be in heaven.


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Posted by:

Peter V

We're like-minded and not at all wrong-footed on these thoughts on the English language. So the compliment isn't back-handed but whole-hearted.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Yes Jan F and Peter and of course....Deb. There's also to consider the following:

Judas
betrayer
double-crosser
double-dealer
snake in the grass
turncoat....
two-faced
two timing
basement bahaviour


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Didn't want to stress out the sight-impaired (me included). It was much longer before the edit.

Thanks for the tip though.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Watkins Glen

I guess nobody's really interested in the new Watkins Glen upgrade. I definitely thought this was a big deal - much better sounding upgrade of the complete set, along with their soundcheck and the closing jam.

It's interesting that only Rick and Richard were the only members of the Band to jam in the encore (as the recording suggests). Rick opens with solo versions of A Change Is Gonna Come and Raining In My Heart, with the Dead's Keith Godchaux on piano. i can't believe that really exists! Richard stops by and sings/plays piano on a blues number, including Jerry Garcia on lead guitar and Greg Allman on organ. There's also an improvised Rick song, and he sings a song with Jerry Garcia before leaving the stage.


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Posted by:

David P

In the context of the soundtrack in question, the drink of choice would be true blood.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Jan F: Either works. Not that there's anything wrong with your impressive list, if you thought it looked ungainly or inelegant or over-long, try slash-b instead of slash-n.


Entered at Fri May 21 22:11:57 CEST 2010 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: The smart-a$$ capital of the world

Subject: You can be a linguist too -- or is that also?

Backbite

Bullheaded

Crybaby

Cutthroat

Dimwit

Harebrained

Hogwash

Jackass

Jerkwater

Lowbrow

Troublemaker

Underachiever

Warlike



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Posted by:

NB

Web: My link

Subject: Hobby Farm For Sale

As pro golf isn't played in a league, there are no minor league golfers Steve. So maybe stick with what you know: methane production and chemical castration products. Came across this hobby farm, if you're thinking of expanding. And you'd only be 200 miles down the road from Pat and able to take in all the Hawk games too. (thanks for your concern Pat). NB


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Posted by:

Peter V

I like that one. Chicken-hearted will lead to a whole series.

Just got a new book "Th Art of The LP" by Johnny Morgan. I love stuff like "The Album Cover Album" series and "The Art of Blue Note." I was delighted to see that something like the 4th sleeve in the new one is "Rockin' Ronnie" by Ronnie Hawkins (1959).


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: (how to) compound problems

Peter: see if you can work in my favourite: "chicken-hearted." I used that in a memo once to describe another department's CYA response to an incident. Management called me on the carpet for manque de politesse, which just shows how lily-livered they are.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Lars, funny that you mentioned Richie Hebner who as some of you may recall, was Abby's favourite ballplayer. It's too bad we don't have the archives to Norbert's GB as Hebner may have been the most mentioned MLB player in TBGB. Did somebody mention Saratoga?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sancerre? Possibly a cool Pinot Grigio on tour.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: WWJRRD?

Now, now girls, we have to think of what JRR would drink . . . Fiuggi? San Benedetto? San Pellegrino? Perrier? Saratoga (no way)!

J.F.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just checked, you can't get the Robbie track on iTunes yet. Damn, will have to wait for Tuesday,

Back to work, I'm in the middle of an ESL article on compounds, you know, stuff like two-faced, half-witted. Mainly two-faced in fact.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: hockey, what else?

Bill- That was Tommy Williams. I was just reading about him last night as I was reading an article on Richie Hebner, a baseball and hockey player in his youth. Baseball won out & Richie played 17 seasons, mostly for the Pittsburgh Pirates.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: The only non-Canuckistanis in the NHL when I was very young were an American named Williams (I think it was), and Stan Mikita from Prague. I believe Mikita was snuck out from behind the iron curtain as a young boy - meaning that someone must've successfully cached a small Czech.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Nooo Deb. It has to be the Champagne of Gingerales....


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Posted by:

Pat B

Yesterday was Stan Mikita's birthday.


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Posted by:

Deb

Make that "actually".


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Posted by:

Deb

David, Bob, it's actual sparkling water.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the Turtle Pond

Subject: Hank Jones

Another interesting, albeit silly, tidbit about Hank Jones. I just learned that he played the piano accompanying Marilyn Monroe, as she sang, "Happy Birthday, Mister President" to JFK.


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Posted by:

Steve

Gene, while I appreciate hockey from back then I'm more into the modern era. The game is more relevant to today. Like life today, it's fast paced, bright lights and rock and roll.

Obscure hockey players from before I was born who was a minor league golfer as well doesn't put him up on my screen.

So, Robbie's releasing some out take from 30 years ago? Maybe I'll just try and find one of his old tapes I have and give it a spin in honor of the event.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: True Blood 2

It IS available from amazon.co.uk. I'd typed in "2" or "Vol.2" and it found the Australian import. Just typing "True Blood" found it (Series 2). Amazon should really up the intelligence of its search engines. Anyway, £8.95. Released Monday. Mine's on its way. I agree the whole album looks good, but the Robbie song is quintessential Robbie. Just what I've been waiting for.

The one I'm playing this week is Jackson Browne / David Lindley's "Love is strange."


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: facebook

Deb, your link didn't work for me, but this one does . . . ?


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Posted by:

Deb

Web: My link

Jan, The Facebook page is still up at the link above. Your link went to Myspace and I have no idea if they're still using that.


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Posted by:

joe J

Subject: True Blood

Thanks BEG. I started with 'Clairvoyant' and played it the rest of the way through. All kinds of great stuff including Robbie, the Millers, Junior Walker and Screamin Jay Hawkins. Must have for Hallows Eve.

Kevin J, I only just noticed we have the same last name. Not many Js out there. We're practically kin. Do you think I can borrow a lawn mower?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Mose Allison

I got to shake the hand of Mose Allison last night, a writer, singer and piano man I've long admired but never saw in concert until he played my favorite venue for the first time last night.

Arriving early for the gig at the general admission Birchmere in Northern Virginia, I sat on one of the benches outside the club, talking to other early bird music fans when a taxi pulled up to the front door. I immediately recognized the small man with the white beard as Mose Allison, stood up and shook his hand, "I'm Charlie." He simply said, "I'm Mose...where's the soundcheck?" I walked him to the stage door where he spotted his drummer and proceeded into the club. Later that night he played two great sets including some fine new songs from his first CD of the century, "The Way of the World." His old songs never sounded better. At age 82, Mr. Allison is an amazing presence. The road may be a "gaddam impossible way of life," but Mose knows how to handle it.

I caught a couple of connections to The Band during the night as Mr. Allison played a Muddy Waters tune as well as "The Stuff You Gotta Watch." I'd love to see him do a duet with Levon on that one.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: JRRs new one

Thanks to BEG for sharing this one with us. Thanks to the rest of you for returning to the music.

And, because we know you all must be holding your breath waiting to read what we here at The Band site think about Royal's new effort :-) :

Uhm... let us put it this way: We'll buy the solo album when it eventually comes out. Play it too, we will. And of course promote it properly, together with Levon's and Garth's latest projects.

One more thing: We can't access JRRs Facebook pages, check link above. He's no longer there?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Pat B

Touché.............but hair is the Brown album to the Island's of height and driving distance.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Robbie's Muse

Then there's Ophelia, in the ashes of laughter. Is she a tragic Shakespearean figure, a comic Minnie Pearl, or a combination of the two, portrayed by Kate Winslet?


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Posted by:

Deb

Thanks, BEG! I like "Clairvoyant" a lot and for me to elaborate would be to cover ground that Sadavid has already covered more eloquently than I could. It's nice to hear that guitar again.

Like others here, I'd buy the CD just to get that song, but fortunately there are more reasons than that, like the Jace Everett/C.C. Adcock collaboration, the Buddy and Julie Miller song, and Screamin' Jay Hawkins. I like the Junior Walker song, too, but it's as reminiscent of "Shotgun" as "Clairvoyant" is of "Crazy River."


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Posted by:

Pat B

Kevin J, or the haircut of said obscure ex-defenseman.

I think the new RR song is great.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: How To Become A Clairvoyant

I like it. Reminds me of something I heard tomorrow.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Musing on the Muse

sadavid: There's also The Saga of Pepote Rouge, "a legend of a lady on the mountain, who lives alone beyond the Mecca plain." Hopefully, she's not a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Pardon me.....should have been sadavid


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Classic sadadid! A great day to be a Band fan......and to think in recent times people were asking how tall Richard was or entertaining us with how far an obscure ex defenseman hit the golf ball!


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: see around corners

BEG: thanks very much for that link . . . I'll buy the CD just to have that song. I've really seen only odd bits & pieces of _True Blood_, but "Clairvoyant" reminded me of a bit of a scene I did see the other day where a voudouienne or some such was busy exorcising demon(s) from a young woman . . . its funny how these people of knowledge, like Castaneda's shaman (or Yoda, come to that) are always rude and impatient with their ignorant clients . . . .

"Clairvoyant" seems like pretty much a reworking of "Crazy River" in its swamp-funky atmospherics, and that's entirely a good thing . . . hearing this one, I was as thrilled as when I first heard "Crazy River" on the radio ("Robbie's back!!") I love the arrangement, and the production; the background vocals are muy sexy.

"She could read the stars, knew the secrets of the dead, and could see what kind of madness was stirrin' around in your head."

I think JRR's been chasing this muse most of his life, some reincarnation of Marie Laveau with long dark hair - on Yazoo St. for sure, possibly down in the dunes and reading the leaves in Caledonia . . . Walcott and Remus can dazzle you with the smoke and the mirrors, The Widow just laughs and says "I ain't joking" . . . .


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Posted by:

Ilkka Jauramo

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Martin Scorsese (on a serious side)

Martin Scorsese is speaking about the legendary INGVAR BERGMAN in a Swedish film shown at "Festival du film" in Cannes this week. The whole interview can be read in the leading Swedish newspaper DN. The article mentiones music documentary of The Band as one of his greatest achievements.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: How To Become Clairvoyant

The song's title speaks of the promise of keen insight & perception, but, in my opinion, fails to present any new musical concepts. Plainly speaking, apart from the lyrical theme, musically it sounds like an outtake from Robbie's last atmospheric album, which was released a dozen years ago. On the plus side -- I do like the guitar sound, but don't get me started commenting on the repetitive stress syndrome evoked by its length.

Does anyone know which label will be releasing Robbie's upcoming album? I don't have a copy of the new True Blood soundtrack, so I don't know if that information is included in its credits for HTBC.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: How To Become Clairvoyant

Classic Robbie. I went straight to Amazon to order it and the UK store only has one which would be sent from Australia (So DLEW is OK!) I'll wait and order one here, but I thought it superb. Full of atmosphere.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Kevin, I always enjoy his playing and there is some nice guitar there but I find the song pretty lifeless. I still have high hopes for the album but that one falls flat for me.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: New Songf

bob w.......we usually always find ourselves on the same page musically.....but I disagree on the Robbie song......I really like it - so nice to hear some interesting guitar all over the song - rises way way above that Ladder 49 softball - reminds me of the first time hearing "Showdown at Big Sky" and being really excited about the album that was to follow.............Thanks BEG for the link.....


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Posted by:

bob w.

I love that Junior Walker tune. As for Robbie's song, I want to like it but it doesn't cut it. I sure hope the rest of the new album rises well above that level.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Wild Bill

Well, Steve, I was a young student in the mid-late sixties, residing in Wallingford, CT, then Cambridge, MA. Will Bill got some local press and caught my interest. I am surprised that you don't know of him, he was part of the first NHL three-peat, '46-7, '47-8 and '48-9 -- what with you being such an expert, and all.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Listen to entire How To Become Clairvoyant (6:10)....written and sung by Robbie Robertson....and others from the True Blood CD.

At first I thought this was going to be an instrumental and then Robbie's singing reminded me of "Sonny Got Caught In The Moonlight" with the eerie and raspy voice that I love.....and then if you're patient you'll hear a little guitar around 3:30....and even more around 4:50 or so....It's so good to hear you Robbie.....and since I've had two readings from a Clairvoyant....well the song will always resonate. I want to hear more!


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Posted by:

Steve

Gene, very well done, I had to google; "retired Toronto Maple Leaf wins four state golf opens" to get the answer and I've been following hockey since 1958, when I was 4 and I had no idea.

With your kind of hockey background, I think you've been showing incredible self restraint by not jumping in on the hockey jock talk. Or is Wild Bill a bigger name in golf than he is in hockey.

Deb, by the end of, The Stanley Cup Finals, you'll be so hockey knowledgeable you'll be talking up the upcoming NHL season in the fall. Pat, I wasn't comfortable with the Canadiens scoring the first goal but what the hell. When The Habs put the pedal to the metal Philly looks lead footed. Maybe they should remove those silly beards to reduce wind resistance, though Pronger is baby faced and looked slower than the rest.

All season the hockey talking heads have been dumping on the Canadiens' size up front. They'd never stand up against bigger, tougher players especially in the playoffs. Looks like Gainey knew who he was trading for. The universe is unfolding as it should.


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Watkins Glen

There's a new Watkins Glen tape source that surfaced recently, and it's great. It has the full Band set, including a loose version of "Holy Cow" that hasn't surfaced on any other tape. The encore jam is also included (minus the last song)... I listened to it pretty carefully and have a pretty good idea who is playing what. If anyone's interested...

Encore Jam (7/28)

01. A Change Is Gonna Come (Rick Danko)

02. Raining In My Heart (Rick Danko)

03. Have You Ever Been Mistreated (Richard Manuel)

04. Da Di De Day (Rick Danko)

05. Not Fade Away (Bob Weir & Jerry Garcia)

06. Let Me Wrap You In My Warm And Tender Love (Rick Danko & Jerry Garcia)

07. Around And Around (Bob Weir)

08. Mountain Jam

09. Johnny B. Goode (Bob Weir)

Rick Danko – guitar, vocals (tracks 1-6)

Richard Manuel – piano, vocals (track 3)

Bob Weir – guitar, vocals (tracks 4-9)

Dickey Betts – guitar (tracks 8-9)

Jerry Garcia – guitar, vocals

Keith Godchaux – piano, keyboards

Greg Allman – organ

Phil Lesh – bass

Bill Kreutzmann – drums


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Posted by:

Calvin

I wanted to add my two cents in about the passing of Hank Jones. I was never a huge fan of the man in then sense the albums he did as a leader were on my must buy list, but Id really enjoyed Cabins in the Sky, which was a Curtis Fuller album, and Milt Jackson's Statements-of which he both played Piano on. Well worth a listen if you havent heard them before.

Thanks for the kind words on the site, it was a labour of love-now I need to see if I can make it a second career.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: New NORTHERN LIGHTS - SOUTHERN CROSS SACD reissue,

I picked up the latest Mobile Fidelity hybrid-SACD reissue from The Band catalogue, "Northern Lights - Southern Cross". Like their previous high resolution versions of MFBP, CAHOOTS and ROCK OF AGES, MoFi has presented another great sounding disc, with a finely nuanced blend of detail, clarity, warmth and dynamic depth, skillfully mastered by Rob LoVerde. I believe that MoFi will be reissuing "Stage Fright" in the near future.


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Posted by:

jh

T...t...t...testing. May Larry Wall be with us all.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Wild Bill

Oui, c'est vrai mais je would have thought his golf exploits to have been so modest as to not be known by golf followers, and likewise not known at all by hockey followers as they came after he was finished with hockey (if that makes sense).

So kudos to you for knowing that, or (being my comfort zone) perhaps I was wrong, and maybe you're like just really old or something and anyone of your vintage would have known that. NB


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Avett Brothers - Encore

An encore posting of Avett Brothers link as I see they will be playing with Levon soon.........spot the Band connection.........


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Posted by:

jh

Hey, take personal vendettas somewhere else, OK? May we suggest Facebook or Twitter? Please don't make us block a central NYC ISP. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: wtf

why not delete the offensive, sexist post of "peter?"


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Posted by:

Deb

I'm all for folks talking about anything that keeps a lively discussion going, so this is by no means a negative comment -- I'm just sayin'. Just remember this hockey thread and be patient when Jan F. and I get going on SEC football this fall.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Boo, not Bravo! (USA)

Note to U.S. viewers -- Our Bravo channel is completely different, in a bad way, from Bravo! Canada. Tonight we're offered multiple episodes of The Real Housewives of New York City; yet another in their long line of manufactured "reality" shows.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: your TV guide

for those who missed it back in Jan - as I did - Bravo! has a re-run tonite of the Levon Helm episode of the _Innovators in Music_ series. 6 pm BPT, I think, or just about halfway through the (men's ice) hockey game.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: NB

Wild Bill was with the Leafs for 3 Cups, mon ami.


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Posted by:

NB

Pat: Na, I sensed none of that. Just a little flippancy, which I enjoy (like you admonishing Peter to stay on the original off-topic topic of hockey).

Gene: Bingo ! That's a pretty obscure thing to know. NB


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Posted by:

Peter V

You're quite right, Pat. i always thought that The Band had been sponsored by a Maple syrup manufacturer for the back pic on Islands, but it does seem that Robbie is supporting one female sport (softball) or another (hockey). But I haven't a clue which. Maybe it's golf?


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Posted by:

Deb

Web: My link

Lenny Kravitz, Mos Def, and the Preservation Hall Jazz Band performing a song written to benefit Gulf Aid.


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Posted by:

landmark

Location: Montreal

Hey Pat, have taken your Al Melgard album off your basement wall and given it a spin? I hope the Hawks murder the Sharks and whomever comes out of the East. By the way, Jersey Girl, I still have your back.


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Posted by:

Pat B

PV, back picture on Islands. Toronto Maple Leafs. No Manchester United. Let's stay on related topics.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dunc, what do you think Raith Rovers chances are next season? I've been wondering how they'd fare against AFC Bournemouth if they were in the same league.

Roger, do you recall whether Heath or Godwin was in goal when Southampton beat Bournemouth 7 - 0? We need to know.

Rob the Organ: do you think the Band would have been more likely to support Spurs or West Ham?


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Posted by:

Gene

"Wild Bill" Ezinicki


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Neko Case

That would have been me Joe.....and as I said at the time....dig the camera shot from the piano out.....great.....also JW's smile at the mention of the Alamo.........also as I mentioned...odd twist that the 3 most talented people of the 5 on stage have been the least commercially successful.....often the case of course......The lovely Neko Case is also on the new Peter Wolf - a cd that I have yet to purchase...........


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Posted by:

Pat B

NB, I sounded kinda haughty yesterday and I apologize. Meeting those Hawks was incredibly thrilling for me, and Dale could still pulverize the ball. I also dated a girl in high school whose grandfather was a major sponsor for the Hawks (a sausage company) and whose brother was a deaf goalie. Mikita's interest in the kid launched the Chicago area deaf hockey leagues which became nationally known and quite popular. Her folks had a party for the Hawks at their house and I spent some quality time there with Gil Marotte.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Joe, thank you for that link. It reminded me of this beautiful performance from that same show. Enjoy.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Neko Case

I believe it was here that someone linked the video of Neko Case singing 'Don't Forget Me'. I've had it on repeat for a couple of days. If you missed it the first time....and thanks by the to whomever...


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Posted by:

Cwipple Cweek

Location: Perth

Subject: Black Hawks

Go Blackhawks.They are now up 2 game to nil.I was trying to explain to my Australian born daughter the concept of a best of 7 series.It is something we dont have in OZ.Instead we get: elimination finals, Qualifying finals,Preliminary finals and grand finals. Anyway The Hawks are due for their first cup win since 61 when i was still in Diapers.I would rather they play Philly.Habs bring back too many bad memories from the early 70s. After living in Australia for 22 years I have finally concluded that Aussie rules is slightly more entertaining than ice hockey but they are my top 2 sports of choice. Sorry no Band thread today.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Who's "We" ? (Peter V. : Stay Clear, Golf Content).

Gee, I jokingly refer to The Windy City as The Flatulent City a couple of times and now I have to answer to a whole bunch of you guys? Those all sound like great experiences to have had Pat. I haven't rubbed elbows much with NHLers, unlike NG whose step brother lived with them in TO when he was the Leafs second least-worst goalie, circa 1970. So Pat Quinn, and some of the other so-called Leaf defencemen of that era would show up at her house to have pops with M. after the game.

Sticking with the "Hockey Players Who Don't Hack" theme, saw former Hab Bobby Rosseau (I'd guess a club pro) play in the Ontario Open. Not nearly as good as Dale, whom I bet could still whallop it pretty good even when you played with him in his early 40's. I could name for you the best golf pro to ever have been an NHL regular, but maybe you'd like to take a stab at it (or me) first. In the 50's he played for half of the original six franchises (Toronto, Beantown, and New York) . No googling. I saw him live in a PGA event in Florida in the late 60's. In 1960 he won four state opens, so none too shabby. Did I mention no googling ? NB


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, knocking NB down for mentioning the possibility of the Canadiens in the Stanley Cup finals is a bit of premature dejockulation. You can lose your sports cred for being known as a junior golfer, I'm assuming that's mini putt, but how can mentioning the Canadiens and the Stanley Cup in the same sentence ever be reason for dejockulation?

It's like putting chocolate and peanut butter, The Pope and The Vatican, a horse and carriage or love and marriage together. They're all made for each other. I'm calling for immediate restoration of his jock and for you to carefully put it back in place!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

I retract "hapless"....."average" would be a better description of DT's playing career.....classy guy though as I would have fired off bombs had I been treated the way the Hawks treated him...glad to see he has landed on his feet in FLA......


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Dale Tallon

Prior to distinguishing himself very late in life with a remarkable rebuilding job in Chicago ( his firing ranks as almost criminal and the Bowman's should insist on having his name instead of theirs on the eventual Stanley Cup )Dale Tallon was best known as exhibit number one in the incompetence file on the laughably inept Vancouver Canucks........1970 entry draft saw the great Gilbert Pereault go number 1 to Buffalo...the hapless Tallon went number 2 to Vancouver while eventual stars Rick Macleish and Reg Leach went no. 3 and 4.......Funny thing about Dale Tallon......along with Jeff Beck, Rod Stewart and Bobby Orr...he may be the only guy on the planet that has consistently had the same haircut for 40 years!


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Posted by:

Pat B

NB, I played a round with Dale at Seven Bridges about 15 years ago. Then I saw him perhaps a month ago walking up State Street here in Chicago. We said hello.

Back in the 60's I went to a number of hockey clinics that Stan Mikita ran with Eric Nesterenko. Of course one day Bobby Hull tags along and they have a meet and greet for him. The old Legion Hall in Lincolnwood was packed with people literally screaming for the Golden Jet. The players among us retired to the coat room with Stosh and Swoop to debate the efficacy of wearing helmets. Mikita liked them but he warned, "There won't be as much blood."

Sorry, NB, we will need to see more.


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Posted by:

NB

Web: My link

Subject: Let Me Earn Those Rungs Back, Pat

Category: I'll take "Hawks Who Don't Hack" for two rungs, Alex.

Dale Tallon: Canadian Junior Golf Champion 1969 ( the year before I competed in Halifax). I was never paired with him but was in the same junior event once in Oshawa (where he was a General in his salad days). I can still remember the "cannonating" drive he hit off the first tee there and that was forty years ago. I saw him golf in the Canadian Open in London, Ont. in '70 and he did play on The Canadian Tour for a time was also the pro at Chicago's Highland Park Golf and Country Club. If that's not rung-worthy Pat, you'll leave me no choice but to tell you about the time my dad ran into Bobby Hull on Bay St.

The dude in my link you'll know for sure as he does a lot of western games. Though born in Jamaica, Jay was raised right here in my little podunk town of Hope, BC. Speaking of which, you've got a fair # of BC boys on your Hawk squad.

Bill: Ok, you're excused but if jury duty comes up....


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Wow.......a refernce to Wayne Casey's band........I believe the Habs won 6 or 7 Stanley Cups during that reign of terror alone....so not bad....the memory of my older sister and friends blasting the Sunshine band's hits lingers with me to this day.....my older brother had his prog rock going on, my sister moved between Elton John and KC....Thank God, The Faces and Bowie and later ROA helped rescue me.......


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks Dunc, great link to Molly & Roger.


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Posted by:

Steve

Full points, David, and a little gold star to stick on your note book!

Yep, Kevin, but as soon as you stick on the n you get van like Mr. Morrison and you're moving off base. That is unless you pronounce E va and it sounds like Eva we're in trouble again. Maybe it would be easier if we used, That's the way, "a hun a hun " I like it, and make it, that's the way,"a vun a vun"I like it. Sorry can't think of anything closer at the moment.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

So....E Va would really have been closer than E Vo.....not to be picky....just an anglo Torontonian trying to get it right......Foster Hewitt had a life long struggle with no. 12's name........Don Cherry's best line ever was when his idiot sidekick Ron Maclean corrected him saying "Don...it is Patrick Wah...not Patick Roy.......Cherry answered......"Is it Wah Rogers or Roy Rogers?"


Entered at Wed May 19 22:21:37 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Boom Boom, Out Go The Lights

All this hockey talk reminds me of the legacy of the Atlanta Flames, the NHL team that played here from 1972-1980, before packing up their carpet bags & moving north to Calgary. The team drew their name from General Sherman's Civil War wrath upon the city and their logo was a fine-looking "flaming A" (excuse the Canadian pun). Our coach for the first few seasons was the late-great Boom Boom Geoffrion, who later made Atlanta his home until his death.

Although we made the playoffs in 6 of our 8 seasons, we were geographically challenged with long road trips since, as an expansion team, we were placed in the West division, like the Braves & the Falcons at that time. The last big hurrah in the final season was when goaltender Jim Craig joined the team following his stellar performance as a member of the U.S. Olympic team that defeated the then mighty Russians in the "miracle on ice".

Since there were & still are a lot of transplanted Philadelphia fans living in the Atlanta area, the Flames had a heated rivalry with the Broad Street Bullies. Hence, whenever the Flyers came to town, there seemed to be as many fights in the stands at the old Omni arena as there were on the ice -- a spectacle I witnessed firsthand on many occasions.

BACK TO THE MUSIC -- Countless people, even those not familiar with jazz or music in general, have heard one of Hank Jones' most famous performances, which was in a rather anonymous role in the shadows of a famous star. He accompanied Marilyn Monroe on piano when she sang her sultry version of "Happy Birthday" to President John F. Kennedy in 1962.


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Posted by:

Steve

No, Kevin you weren't being too picky but E von is closer and I toyed with dropping the N but since it's, as you said, almost silent but not quite I tacked it on. Maybe E vov the second v standing for 2/3's of an n.


Entered at Wed May 19 22:07:57 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279310103.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.185.23)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve......not to get too picky but should it not be pronounced.....E van with that not quite full pronounciation of the N as Dion doesn't but Dionne does?

On that subject, I notice many people in Europe and USA pronounce Levon as le Von whereas Robbie always said Lee Von - as I do or is this peculiar to Canadians?


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Web: My link

Subject: backstage catering

Pat, That's awesome about your friend doing the backstage catering. Please use the attached video as a caution for him if he is serving any type of bread.


Entered at Wed May 19 21:49:48 CEST 2010 from 21cust224.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.224)

Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, I never think of Pat as a nemesis. Just a sparing buddy. Right now I'm trying to distract him away from the shadowboxing he's involved in.

hey, David, what would you say is the most widely recognized song that Mr. Jones played keys on.

Pat, put the bottle down, focus and think. !0 goals not games. I'm sure you remember I called for the Canadiens to give Philly 10 goals in the first game so thy would feel they were dealing with a really worthy foe. They only got 6 and now only 3 more. That's Philly for you, always a puck short of a load. Anyway, I'm sticking with Montreal in 9, though they may do it in 8.

Joan, must be the same guy who did play by play for NBC in the 70's for the Rangers' games. He used to pronounce Yvan Cournoyer's name Ivan Con Or E A. It should be, E von Corn Y EH?.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Pat B

Pat B. This is especially for you from our Randy Newman.


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Posted by:

Bill M

NB: May I defer to the GB's self-professed expert in dog-gassing, Joe J? He's the bye that catches the farts ...


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Peter

Peter. Great nostalgia cover for a Dundonian.


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Posted by:

Pat B

NB, thinking that the Habs could make the finals dropped you a couple of rungs in my book.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: GB Hockey Referee Needed ? ( I See A Bad Smell A-Rising)

In the event of a Habs/Hawks final, who's going to step forward to break up the inevitable rumble in the alley between Pat From The Flatulent City and The Methane-Maker of Megantic, (aka Stevon Farm) ? Bill, you're geographically well-situated for the job. Habs aren't going to get there though unless they stop blocking so many dang shots. Halak needs at least fifty shots a game to be as sharp as he was in the first two rounds. As for actually out shooting your opponent, well that's just asking for disaster. NB


Entered at Wed May 19 20:38:40 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279310103.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.185.23)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Well said bob and truth be told Montreal fans ( perhaps for the first time ever ) feel the same way.......it has been a really enjoyable and unexpected run and some hope for promising seasons to come.....

I noticed that when Mick Jagger was asked last night on Larry King as to influences - the first name he mentioned was Big Bill Broonzy.......on a recent Austin City Limits - the show concluded with a short interview with Ray Davies - when asked the same question - he also said Big Bill Broonzy.

Thanks Joan....I am very much looking forward to the new release and do hope that it contains some of the gritty guitar work from Robbie that Sebastian had hinted at........also looking forward to his interview with Carol C !


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: That Gettysburg Address

Bill M: As a Southerner might say -- Generally, you don't need the number, just remember Longstreet.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: backing bands

The Rumour - hot, hot, hot - and named in hommage to The Band . . . .


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Robbie's music

This is from Robbie's Facebook site, run by Sebastian.

"Robbie's song "How To Become Clairvoyant," from the True Blood soundtrack will be available on amazon for download on May 25th. We'll post a link when it's up. Cheers!"


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Good to hear frrom you

Jan,Tull and Calvin nice to hear from you. Calvin, the site is really good. Glad that both you and Cleveland are having a revival.

I'm not really a hockey fan, but some years ago, a radio sports announcer here in New York. used to call them "The "F-ers"


Entered at Wed May 19 19:51:34 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Lull 'em into complacency, that's the way to do it.

Lars: Re your last post, yup, drugs'll do that to you.

Pat B: Re the event in Gettysburg, do you have an address for that?

Calvin: When I was typing about hockey-rock songs yesterday, I thought of but didn't mention a couple songs in that genre by Montreal's Big Bob and the Dollars - including a local hit about Gordie Howe. That was early '60s, but before that "big" Bob Davies and his Rhythm Jesters released four records on George Goldner's Rama label in 1956. Two, sung by Little Billie Mason, were Frankie Lymonish R&B; the other two, sung by Davies himself, were rockabilly. The first, "Rock To The Music" / "Hole In The Bucket", was fantastic.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Kevin, I am the first to admit that the Flyers are playing with house money at this point. Having had a ridiculously inconsistent season, a coaching change, goaltender issues,an incredible series of injuries and requiring a shoot-out in the final game of the regular season to qualify for the playoffs, this is all looked upon as a very strange turn of events. I didn't see them getting out of the first round and wouldn't dare pretend otherwise.

I'm not counting this series as over by any means. Seeing what the Flyers just did to Boston after going down 0 - 3, I'd say just about anything could happen this year.

It has been fun to watch and if Chicago and Philly manage to get to the finals I'll be happy for both cities as it has been a long, long time since either team has won a Cup.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: R.I.P. Hank Jones

Sad to note that the legendary jazz pianist Hank Jones passed away Sunday at the age of 91. His younger brothers Thad & Elvin, who both preceded him, were also among the greats in jazz. Hank attributed his longevity to avoiding the bad habits that cut short the careers of many of his contemporaries of the bop era. Over the years I especially enjoyed his expressive, subdued but eloquently lyrical, work with guitarist Johnny Smith.


Entered at Wed May 19 19:03:41 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279310103.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.185.23)

Posted by:

Kevin J

As a life-long Habs fan ( I still remember perfectly the feeling of getting my first sweater and travelling to Montreal with my father to go the the Forum as a 10 year old ) this is not enjoyable but I can't help seeing the humour in Steve's worst nightmare becoming a reality as his two main nemeses' Pat B and bob w are from the two cities most likely to meet for the Stanley Cup....Will Steve be providing commentary on the final? Which team will he be rooting for? Perhaps not watching at all but spending more time at the mixing board? With Bob Dylan's Last Waltz jacket on sale for 4000 euros.....perhaps Steve will be looking for a deal on the pink scarf from that same film rumoured to be going on the market soon?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Backing bands

Hard to define "backing band." On the number of great records they played on behind a lead singer, it would really have to be either The MGs or The Funk Brothers. The Funk Brothers is an after-the-event name really and their line up was more fluid than Booker T and the MGs. So I'd say Booker T and the MGs (who also backed the Dylan 30th Anniversary Show).

The list is really "bands backing a singer live" so the whole studio house band lot have been ignored, though both toured on packages. Then comes the ability to back in different styles, and there they have chosen a worthy winner


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Posted by:

Dexy

Web: My link

Link above is to a new story at 411mania.com listing the best backing bands of all time. Guess who is number one?


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Posted by:

Peter V

I enjoyed the site, Calvin. Nicely done.

On early R&R check out "Long Black Stockings" by Tony Butala. It's imitation Eddie Cochran but very good!


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, I had no idea that the East played "First Team to Ten." Are the Finals like that too? With these new rules, at least the Habs' golf season will start this weekend, but I still think the Montrealers could score at least one g-o-a-l.

Someone please put Steve out of his misery with this mixing board thing.


Entered at Wed May 19 16:40:49 CEST 2010 from (216.226.180.3)

Posted by:

Deb

Very nice site, Calvin. You're right about early rockabilly, too. There's some amazing stuff there.

Ray Pence, that's me with the Facebook friend request.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: article mentioning film of Richard singing at Woodstock

Here is his site but it doesn't apprear to have clips to view http://www.historicfilms.com/n_search_mp_results.php


Entered at Wed May 19 12:59:04 CEST 2010 from 21cust137.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.137)

Posted by:

Steve

Pat, you could just say you made a mistake, confusing me with someone else on the mixing board post. But we each have our own style.

I'm not sure why you're bringing up the lack of goals to this pint unless you're pointing out that my analysis is right on. I called for 10 goals by Philly. Since they're not that great a scoring team it's going to take them 3 games to get there. The universe is unfolding as it should. I was hoping they'd score a fourth last night but we'll have to give them the first one in game 3.

How many games against the Rinky Dinks are included in what's his name's brilliant goaltending streak ? I'd guess The Rinky Dinks are among the leagues biggest post season patsies and that their record for post season ineptness far outshines what's his name's road record.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Calvin, congratulations. The site looks great. Continued success with the project.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, yes, that is Antti Niemi who just tied an NHL record with 7 road wins in a row. Same guy you spent some bandwidth disparaging not too long ago as part of your trenchant hockey analysis.

Calvin, beautiful site. Congratulations.


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Posted by:

Calvin

Web: My link

You know the Wailers are still out there touring. Bassist Aston Barrett, who joined the Wailers in 1972, is still out there with a band calling itself the Wailers-but then I guess he has a right. I saw them for $15 at a great club in Cleveland about two years back. They put on a good show, I was pretty impressed really. Much more than I thought I would be.

I know we have a few history buffs in here. My link to a project Ive been working on the past 5 months. Its a Online Pictorial Archive of the Theatre District in Cleveland, kind of proud of it really. Playhouse Square was built around 1920 but some of those photos go back to the late 1800s.

I havent been around much the past 6 months, and frankly havent been listening to the Band much at all as Ive veered into early rockabilly the last six months. More obscure stuff-Buddy Knox, Janis Martin, Bill Flagg, Johnny Burnette, Charlie Feathers and Jack Earls. Amazing stuff, Primitive yet vital.

The other day though I pulled out the Brown Album for a friend who didnt know the guys much and I settled in for my first start to finish listen of a Band album since probably November.

Reminded me why I use to post here a couple times a day.


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Posted by:

Pat B

JTF, a friend of mine is catering the JT/PH show. I'll tell Gary Brooker you said hello.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Jan F, your mention of the Gettysburg Bluegrass Festival raised the temperature here, as it did--undoubtedly--at Lars' abode.

Steve, your Royincarnation is being outplayed by a former Blackhawks benchwarmer. But I'm sure the Habs will eventually score a goal at some point. Explanations of mixing boards would take entirely too long.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

It's good to see my old friends JTF and Jan F back in the GB. I wanted to tell JTF my daughter just landed a teaching gig in Richmond for next school year, so tips on neighborhoods would be appreciated. I'm meeting her for a Washington Nationals game on Friday night to get the scoop on her job (the team took a dive since I bragged about them here the other day--I jinxed 'em!). Next year she can follow the Richmond Flying Squirrels.

Speaking of the Infamous Stringdusters, Jan, I saw them at Floydfest a couple of summers ago, and they are great. My daughter just saw them at Iota in Arlington and she agreed. Do you know if the Museum of the American Indian still runs the video including some Robbie Robertson music? I heard Buffy Sainte-Marie speak there once. I wish RR would do the same.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: drugs and writing


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro D.C.

Subject: It's about damn time . . .

The new issue (Summer 2010) of the journal of the National Museum of the American Indian is dedicated to N.A. music. In the story "Up Where They Belong," features: Robbie Robertson, Rita Coolidge, Buffy Sainte-Marie,Steve Salas, Jessie Ed Davis, Peter La Farge, Redbone and Link Wray.

AND after all the years of being a charter member of the NMAI, they finally have a story on the Choctaw-Chickasaw. (My "people," right Deb?) The story is about the origns of their horse culture (they raided de Soto's camp and appropriated the horses that got away during the attack).

Saw Alison Krause at the Gettysburg Blue Grass Fest this past Sunday. Was most impressed with the "Infamous Stringdusters." Very talented bunch of kids -- a bluegrass jam band?

J.F.


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, nothing like a blanket condemnation. What specifically would you point at as weakness in my hockey analysis.

Me making comments about mixing boards is rather surprising, especially to me. MIXING bowls, or chopping BOARDS I have definite opinions about( I use them on a daily basis), but a mixing board is foreign to me. Doesn't sound like a sound idea to me. Don't all the ingredients just spill off the edges when you try to mix?


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Web: My link

Subject: drugs and performing


Entered at Tue May 18 22:38:15 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Shack amazed everybody, including himself I'm sure, by scoring something like 21 G-O-A-L-S one year (and this was before expansion!) May have been '65/'66, as '66 was the year that Douglas Rankine and the Secrets went to #1 on CHUM with "Clear The Track (Here Comes Shack)".


Entered at Tue May 18 22:12:37 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279310103.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.185.23)

Posted by:

Kevin J

One of my favorite hockey stories........Eddie Shack was illiterate and this became known to the public at some point in the 60's ( so the story goes ).....he was playng against the Montreal Canadiens and the players on the Habs were really rubbing it in about him not being able to read or write.........halfway through the 3rd period...Shack scores on a breakaway.......skates back in front of the Canadiens bench...stops and says..."Goal....G-O-A-L!"


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: gotta scrape that shit right off your shoes ...

I have no time for "Exile on Main Street", but as a public service will offer up the suggestion that those interested in inspecting a template dig out a copy of Van Morrison's "Bang Masters" (or other package of the Bert Berns material) and listen to "The Back Room". If you keep playing the "Bang Masters", you'll hear prechoes of EoMS in a number of the songs that follow too.


Entered at Tue May 18 21:57:55 CEST 2010 from (206.47.33.101)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

...or was it that Howe like to creatively use his elbows?

A couple of American born players who played aggressively but who actually had great skills and were such a threat to the opposing team was Jeremy Roenick (huge ego) and....and.....? I think he played on the same team. Chelios from Chi Town was great too....who was trained in Canada.

"Here comes Shack (Eddie) down the track...."


Entered at Tue May 18 21:49:38 CEST 2010 from (206.47.33.101)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Didn't Clarke have a nickname? Chippy? He loved to use his stick anyway he could....Uhhh...so did Howe.

I remember one interview where Bobby Hull smiled and said that one way he was able to score so many goals was that he would aim for the goalies' heads so that everytime he came back at them...They'd have something to think about......He did actually have skills.......Shultzy had a specific role.....Put fear into all skilled players and protect his own skilled teammates. He would never have caught Bobby Orr...and from the interview I had previously posted about Orr....He could fight and did it once in the beginning of his career...made his point and then continued to dazzle everyone on the ice! What's 20 goals for a forward? Orr managed 40 goals playing defence! Ha!

Someone asked if anyone had seen BMW? I did see Bob Marley and The Wailers at Maple Leaf Gardens. I was up in the grey seats by myself as none of my friends at the time were into reggae. I'll never forget "Get Up Stand Up".....Bob was singing for all of us.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Interesting Hockey stuff. Not a big hockey guy myself but the recent conversation reminds me a lot of how some baseball people like to compare teams from different eras - you just can't because the context of the games change so much. So claiming one guy would have scored or or not score so many goals in one era or another is only speculation. Could Gretzky have been that successful in the mid 70's or would have one of those Flyers shortened his career? - They may have very well caught up with that hanging near the Blue Line crap and leveled him into a gun shy skater. I believe great players would be great in almost any era but again, it's pure speculation with no concrete anything to go on. But always entertaining none-the-less.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Since we talked about Crowbar yesterday and about hockey today, I thought I'd point out that after Crowbar split up in the early '70s, Kelly Jay did a couple of records for the Puck Records label owned by some non-famous NHLer (can't recall who). One, a version of Skip and Flip's "Cherry Pie" (note: Byrds link), was a minor hit. The last of those 45s, a version of "Run Run Rudolph", while credited to Kelly, was really by a reformed Crowbar, who soon started touring - to not a huge amount of success unfortunately.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

bob w.......a further issue that people tend to forget is that the WHA was at its peak during this era - drawing fans away from the NHL in some major markets and taking fighting to a whole other level in some cases....the Flyers perfected it but they were far from alone......that is funny about Campbell but I believe it.......I remember years after the BSB's had been disbanded...must have been 1982 or 1983 that the Flyers led by Bobby Clarke again beat the touring Russian National team.......Clarke - despite being a nasty piece of work - ranks as one of the most effective leaders I have ever seen in team sports....


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Posted by:

Steve

Gary Dornhoefer, skated on his ankles, Bob Kelly could skate fast , couldn't stop and couldn't turn, Schultz couldn't pass or shoot and had less speed than Van Impe, Ashbee would be left waving at players today as they sped by him, Wayne Hillman would have trouble making it in the American Hockey League today.

As far as Schultz scoring 20 goals goes I'm sure if you check you'll find, Dave Cement Head, when he played with those incredibly high scoring Oilers teams had a lucky season as well. Schultz was a 10 goal a year scorer then and today wouldn't gt close enough to the net with the puck to even get any shots on goal. If you player with Clarke, Barber and Leach back then you'd have probably scored 20 goals.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Kevin, it was always noted in Philly that NHL President Clarence Campbell was lenient during those years because attendance was suffering and the Canadiens were re-tooling their club. I can remember Gene Hart (Flyers announcer)opening his broadcasts with "17,525 fans here to see the team that is ruining hockey." At the time, many of hockey's mainstay clubs were drawing well under 10,000 per game. Once the Flyers and Canadiens met near the top the party was over.

In 1976, before the Red Army team and the Flyers met at the Spectrum, Clarence Campbell actually visited the Flyers' locker room to encourage them to save the league's reputation in that final game of the series. Talk about irony.


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Posted by:

Pat B

That Flyers team reminds me a lot of the mid-80's Detroit Pistons. They pushed the rules to the limit, committing penalties/fouls on every play and daring the ref/refs to call them. After two seasons the leagues moved to rid the sport of such excesses, increasing the respective size of the rule books dramatically. The present day emphasis on interference calls alone would have hamstrung the Flyers and rendered their game impotent. But they were the only NHL team to beat the Russians in their brief 1978 US tour for which we will be eternally grateful.

Btw, Steve, your recent analysis of both hockey and mixing boards reminds everyone that you shouldn't quit your day job.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: From Neko Case to Dave Schultz - ain't life wierd!

Steve....while no team before or since could compare talent level to the late 70's Habs ( 10 Hall of Famerss I believe )... Philly had some great players in Clarke, Macliesh, Barber, Parent that would have been stars in any era....If the bottle had not got in the way of Leach he might have scored 70 a year!......Shero took the goon act a bit far but they did have talent.........See link of Larry Robinson punching out Dave Scultz - the beginning of the end of the Broad Street Bullies as it turned out......


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Tax Exiles on the French Riviera

It's only natural that the Stones would seek to cash in on yet another repackaged reissue of "Exile On Main Street". After all, the main reason they left England to record the album was because of their unfavourable tax situation in Britain.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

The Philadelphia Broad Street Bullies (Their main role on their team was to be the Goon Squad) were feared....not because of their finese on the ice but because of their intimidation on the ice. I remember them very well. I used to cringe whenever they'd be playing against the Leafs...older brother referred to them as The Maple Loafs...lol...Is it a coincidence that in this very GB I experienced another Philly Bully as well? ;-D


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Steve, the Flyers of that era were obviously a team that was easy to dislike if you were on the outside looking in but...."most of the guys on that team couldn't play today"?

The intriguing aspect of those teams was the fact that they COULD play and the stats easily support that fact. That was a main point in the recent documentary.

Look at the roster of the '73 team and select ten (most?) players who played over 60 games that season who couldn't play today. I understand you not liking them but you fall into the same trap as most of their critics when you say they couldn't play at a high level. Hell, even Schultz, the most hated of them all, scored twenty goals that season. And the '74 team fielded an even stronger lineup when Reggie Leach came onboard.

Did they catch up to those two Stanley Cups after the whistle?


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Young Hippie

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Catching up

David, you beat me to the punch on "Treme",its very well done and the music is great.I love John Goodman, especially as a giant sperm.

I think the Kinks should be pretty high in the ratings,

I've spent a lot of time listening to Bob Segar. I used to joke that if I ever was in a coma, play Bob Segar for me and I'd wake right up.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, any country that has 20% of its landmass dedicated to gay guys probably has lots of Bruce on Bruce going on.

JQ, The Broad Street Bullies, as the Flyers were called back then, were a low point in NHL history in my mind.

While they had several top quality players it was their goons, some of whom could only catch up to the play once the whistle blew, who made their reign of terror a black mark on the league's history.

Most of the guys on that team couldn't play today, an era where top flight hockey skills are required.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

As a nod to the depated and missed Serenity.....Mick Jagger is on Larry King tonight - should be a scream......a man who knows nothing talking to one who can't remember anything!

Funny thing when looking at that Neko Case clip......the two least talented - by far - of the five on stage have have been the most successful......life is not fair......


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Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago

I was ready to buy the Exile reissue, but heard clips from the bonus tracks, and now I might not. A little too glossy, at least for my own taste, and (admittedly based on clips), very out of step with the 1972 recordings. I'd look on them as 2009 recordings, except for the alternate takes, and they'd probably make a better stand-alone CD than tacked on to Exile. I might eventually buy it, but only after I find a copy at the local library and see if it's something I'd return to. The "Get Your Ya-Yas" reissue was a monumental ripoff, short measure for a deluxe price. It's for sure that there will be new versions of these two recordings, five or ten years from now, that will be called super-deluxe, and will actually round up a bit more. One nice DVD release that's upcoming is the "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rolling Stones" concert film from 1972. Never officially released, but long available on bootleg, it's a (slightly overdubbed) account of the 1972 tour, which to me was the Stones at their best. Unimaginatively shot (I remember Rolling Stone said it was filmed like the highlights of a high school football game), but still worthwhile. Would be nice if there were interesting extras on the DVD, but the Exile and Ya-Yas reissues make me pessimistic.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Most have probably seen this but worth an encore......the lovely Neko Case singing Harry Nillson - above Link......dig the camera shot from piano out.....


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: No Stone Left Unturned

The Rolling Stones reissues are fueled in part by a change in their recording distribution deal. Several years ago, the Stones became one of the many artists parting ways with EMI. They signed a deal with Universal for their catalogue from "Sticky Fingers" forward; their earlier recordings are still controlled by ABKCO. A similar situation, involving a major reissue campaign, is now occurring with the Jimi Hendrix catalogue, which recently switched to Sony/BMG. And Sir Paul McCartney just became the latest big artist to leave the fold at EMI, as he signed a new deal with the Concord Music Group.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Some Girls is a good one, an exception to the "never anything decent after Exile mantra". Yes, punk rock was 33 years ago. Worse is the thought (listening to John Cale this week) that I was listening to him 40 years ago.

They say you're getting old when the policemen start looking young. I watched a few squeezing their pimples (zits) on Saturday and thought, 'These policemen would look young to my kids, let alone me." It is, as you rightly say, when you see bands that you ignored because they were young upstarts compared to your favourites, and those bands are now full of grizzled veterans, which takes me back to "Crazy Heart."


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Random Thoughts

YouTube is only 5 years old - seems it has been around a lot longer than that.........Ian Hunter will be 71 in two weeks and that seems impossible to believe......you know you are getting old when even bands you still think of as new like REM have been around almost 30 years.....when I was a little kid Englebert Humperdinck seemed to be 70 years old then and yet he seemed to be the same age now......... It is almost comical to see the Stones rolling out a campaign similar to what the Beatles did with their re-releases - but really the albums ( especially Exile ) just don't have the songs that hold up....still a fine album but not anywhere near essential - I prefer "Black and Blue" and "Some Girls".........anyhow it could be worse......brace yourselves for the same type of hype and nonsense in a few years when we have to endure the same thing with U2............imagine having to listen to Bono drone on about one of their re-releases.....ahhhhhhhhh!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Here Come The Girls

That's a bit gender-biased, Bill. What about Sheila & Sheila and The Two Sheilas and the Sheila Sisters? Not to be stereotypical, or anything.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Mockingbird

Bonk: I believe that clip is from the 1979 M.U.S.E. (Musicans United for Safe Energy) a/k/a No Nukes Concerts. Danny Kortchmar and Waddy Wachtel were the guitarists in James Taylor's band at the time, which also featured the great rhythm section of bassist Lee Sklar (with his ZZ Top style beard), drummer Russ Kunkel and the late Don Grolnick on keyboards.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Bill: you forgot

Bruce and Bruce: No Pooftahs!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: playing to (national) type

dlew: Interesting point about US individualism vs UK communitariantism (or whatever the word was that you used). Given the importance of mateship in Australia, your country must specialise in male duos - Bruce and Bruce, the Two Bruces, Bruce A + Bruce B, Bruces (A+B), Bruce Squared ...


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Treme

There's lots of great music featured on the new HBO series "Treme", as well as appearances by Allen Toussaint, Elvis Costello, Steve Earle, Dr. John, Kermit Ruffin and other New Orleans musicians. This top notch series, from the creative team behind "The Wire", also features a couple of actors from that series, along with other fine actors such as Khandi Alexander, John Goodman, Melissa Leo, Steve Zahn and Kim Dickens. Last week's episode closed with Bobby Charles' tribute to New Orleans, "Party Town". Earlier episodes featured Dr. John recording in a studio and Allen Toussaint at work arranging a horn chart during a session.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, Mick overdubbed. "Plundered My Soul" is one of them. They are said to have had murky muddy vocals originally. I can see they'd want to present them as best they can … I don't think it's a secret or anything.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

A note on some of those bonus tracks - from what I read, I believe 3 of those songs were overdubbed with Mick singing in his "today" voice because the tracks from back them were unusable(?) or unsatisfactory for the release.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Stones’ secret tracks ‘exiled’ no more
May 17: TODAY’s Matt Lauer sits down with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones, who revisit making “Exile on Main Street,” one of rock’s most iconic albums, and its never-before-released tracks.
Today show

joe j: Nitrous Oxide always works for me....especially when I have my music on to compliment the experience.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

The Stones, along with Zeppelin (love Bonham), and the Who are of those bands I haven't bought anything of since vinyl (maybe a Stones cd from the late 80's). It's music that is so often played and overplayed on the radio that I found no use to listen to it on my own time. But the recent write ups about 'Exile' has me rethinking that. I like that era of Stones music and just may have to unleash a couple dollars and pick it up. I just can't imagine being that drug addled and produce that kind of work. I look at that and go.., man they must have had a hell of a Producer to piece and keep all that together to produce that record.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: I'll be geting Exile

I don't actually have a copy of it anyway, so an improved remix makes a bit of sense...

Tumbling Dice is perhaps my favourite Stones song (or Gimme Shelter)... perhaps...


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: The Foggy Dew

Subject: Exile

I'm on the go early this morning for a visit to the dentist. It's more than a hour's drive. I won't be looking for the new release of 'Exile' but it's not a bad idea to carry it along in the car, keep my mind off that sadistic Namibean drop out from a on-line dental school?

Might be going too far to say it's my favourite Stones recording but when I need a Stones fix, it's usually what I reach for. That riff from Ventilator Blues is calling me as I speak.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Bonk, Robbie Robertson played on the Carly Simon / James Taylor studio recording of Mockingbird, so it sounds highly likely.

There's a brilliant article in the June "The Word" on how sound quality at live gigs developed (with special mention of The Who). It's long and detailed … worth getting the magazine for it, in fact.

I had "Exile" in my hand yesterday but didn't buy. I have the LP and the CD, and two of the bonus tracks on the recent "Record Day" 45. There are three versions … in British prices £9.99 for the original, £12.99 for the 2 CD set with bonus tracks and a whopping £110 for the box set with 2 CDs, one DVD and the vinyl version. I think you can buy the vinyl one on its own too. Every magazine and every "quality" newspaper last weekend carried Keith Richards interviews on Exile. Keef thinks it their best. Mick Jagger was quoted dismissively as saying that it lacked good songs, and wasn't as good as either Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers. I'm surprised to find myself 100% with Mick on this one. I also remember the Ry Cooder interview where he said they auditioned him demonstrating his best licks on tape for two hours,with him thinking he was being asked to join. He says that Keef then lifted those licks wholesale for Exile on Main Street. That's kind of put me off it, but way back in 1972 I thought it inspiringly played but dull compared to the their two best albums: the ones directly before it. I'd also place Beggar's Banquet, Aftermath and Between The Buttons higher, and maybe Goats Head Soup too. Yes, it's an essential album, but I do find Tumbling Dice much the best track. In other words, do I want it digitally polished? Probably i'll submit and buy it because I usually do.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: And, in great American Bands....

No-one's mentioned the Beach Boys... (I personally don't rate them that highly, but many do!)

PS: I suspect Young Hippie is neither....


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Posted by:

Deb

Bonk, could you link it? The only one I found was from the No Nukes concert with Waddy Watchel and David Lindley (I think) playing guitar.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Young Hippie

Wow! Never been called shitty before. What did I say? You know YH, there's a lot of things that are said on here that are just 'tongue in cheek' Do you fallaw?


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Posted by:

ray pence

Subject: thanks folks, good conversation...except for "dung hippie"

Hey, this is fun, thanks everyone...!!

I can't be the only one here who's getting up early tomorrow morning to go to the store for my copy of the remastered version of the Rolling Stones' "Basement Tapes"...can I be??

Anyone here as excited as I am about the Exile on Main St. rerelease??

ON my previous great bands list I forgot, very silly of me, Lynyrd Skynyrd before the plane crash and Allman Brothers before the 2 motorcycle crashes.


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Posted by:

Young Hippie

Subject: New forum for intelligent people

Hallejuah, I have found a new website to go to express my views mainly on The Band. I don't have to argue with you shitty people no more.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Mockingbird

Just finished watching a YouTube video of Carley Simon and James Taylor doing Mockingbird and I swear that Robbie and Peter Frampton are playing lead guitar. Any one know about this show and where it was?


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Philly Flyers, early/mid 70's

Steve - I don't know much at all about the NHL but I remember this rough crew in the 70's. HBO has been showing a doc about that team in that era and I'd reckon you and the other fans here would enjoy it; it was on a few times last week & I thinks shows there have a 2-3 week run.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Another thing that's just occurred to me...

And I make no claim for originality or clarity of thought: But the US tends to produce great solo acts (supported by bands, of course): A US list becomes a lot easier when you include solos:

Bob Dylan

Elvis Presley

Stevie Wonder

Jimi Hendrix (though could be British)

Chuck Berry (actually Johnnie Johnson)

Curtis Mayfield

Michael Jackson

etc

Is the difference British 'community' and American 'individualism'? I mean to disparage neither and also allow for myriad exceptions....



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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: God Save us all...

queen are much better than the bombastic anthems we've come to really know them by. Extremely versatile. Of course, you're right about Bowie: we can even say Marc Bolan, who really wasn't fit to shine Bowie's shoes in terms of musicality (and Bowie's exceptionally funny turn on Extras gives him a lifetime pass: 'see his pug-nose face'...) But few artists have had the versatility of the great English bands.... I think it's because of english music hall... but that's a whole other story... (in a way that vaudeville was lost on US rock bands...)


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Funny......and closer to the mark than you know as I was in one of those compartments peculiar to European trains where you can't see other passengers........... music can take one to strange places .....in a taxi in Berlin one time I got into a discussion with the driver about Bowie and Iggy and then had to work to convince him not to take me to some of the places theat they had apparently frequented.....went to a record store instead and got a whole different high........


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Posted by:

Peter V

If a uniformed man with a moustache and shiny boots had approached and said "Ah! AC / DC?" to me on a Central European train, I would have pulled the communication cord.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

I remember taking a train from Munich to Prague years back.....as we crossed into Czechoslovakia...the customs guy came onto the train - looking and sounding like a character out of central casting - moustache and big boots and all! He looked at my guitar and said "Ah.....AC/DC - Good" I was going to explain the nuances of the Brown album being a favourite of mine over Big Pink, etc. but just nodded and said "Yes...very good".......The discussion was on bands not solo acts or we would have started with Elvis for goodness sake..........that said - Bowie's influence was staggering.......back to bands and on the Bowie vein.......The New York Dolls also had a major impact on many people starting bands back in the 70's...


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Posted by:

Peter V

BTW, having seen The Who B.T. (Before Tommy) they were extremely exciting, but not THAT good (i.e. proficient) back then.

Do The Everly Brothers count as a group? You'd have to have either The Everly Brothers or Buddy Holly & The Crickets at the base of one tree.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Queen were voted best / most popular / or perhaps just "most voted for" band in several British polls. I don’t see it either. The towering influence over a whole wide area of music (which includes Queen) is David Bowie. OK, not a band, but he always had one. If you’re doing the family trees thing, then a whole load spins off from Bowie.

Ah! But you could argue that the “English voice” came from Ray Davies / The Kinks further back along the line. Then you could go back to Anthony Newley & Tommy Steele with the “English voice” earlier.

Five? Impossible as you can’t cover enough genres. The Byrds? Popularizing folk-rock, then popularizing country rock?

Anyone else seen “Crazy Heart”? I saw it this evening. Jeff Bridges is a VERY convincing alcoholic country singer (music by T Bone Burnett, again!)


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: On-off switches...

Isn't the secret between men and women the idea that men don't want women to flick their off switch?


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: 5 greatest bands...

Oh, I've tried, Oh my god, how I've tried: you've got to split it between US and UK (or Commonwealth)... Even so, our boys span both... but 5 greatest... now, no solos (taking out Bowie, Dylan (whew!), and have to be famous...

UK

I agree with Kevin... Kinks are a good argument, but I think only one great album... (though I'm prepared to be beaten to a pulp over that claim)

Jethro Tull? I'm putting them as a solo! (whew)...

Certainly Queen deserve a place in the top 5, or at least 7. I haven't seen Zep, the stones or the who live (though I've seen film): watch Live Aid 85: Queen blew everyone off the stage /n Cream probably deserve some kind of guernsey, as do U2 (fantastic live) US: Now it gets interesting. I'm also taking out house bands (Motown, Stax, et cetera)

In no particular order The Band /n (really a US band in a sense) /n E Street Band /n You'd add Elvis and Dylan (but I excluded them!)/n My mind is blank, as usual... I can't place one! I'm sure I'm going to spendng the next 20 posts smacking my head!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Ray pt 2

The best of bands would most definitly have our guys at the very top........In terms of influence though, I would go with the following five:

Most Influential

1. The Beatles

2. Joy Division

3. The Ramones

4. Velvet Underground

5. Run DMC


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Agreed.......the Olympics were the true world championships/World Cup of hockey with the absolute finest collection of players from all countries participating........the NHL really undersells the impressive fact that close to 100% of the world's best players are in its league.......contrast this to the English Premier League that the trendies here go ga ga over and while a few teams in that league are stocked with world class talent - a vast majority of the world's great players play in other leagues...............A single act of wearing those outrageous pants at the curling changed Norway forever - or at least how others might think of the country.....I for one am cheering for them.....

Ray: My own list would have The Kinks over any of them but I was just trying to think of the 5 top rock bands that most people would rattle off.......World wide I would think that Queen or even- God forbid - the Eagles were far far bigger than Seger and Silver Bullet or Bruce and E Street ( It's funny but I never think of either of those two as bands but rather solo acts ) . CCR is a good one and also like Bob Marley one of those amazing things that no matter where you go in the world - someone in some cafe or bar will have CCR playing......great music.............as far as influence - this is a whole other discussion as only the Beatles of the 5 bands that I mentioned really had any impact on changing music.........the essential test in any Beatles and Stones argument is a simple one...........Rock n Roll music was changed by the Beatles..........whereas had the Stones appeared on the scene or not there is no case to be made that anything would have changed..........I actually listen to the Stones more than Beatles but ..........Joy Division had more of an impact on music than they did or any of the other four................................Give me one night in a bar with a band of my choice and it might just be Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band circa 1976.....I have seen him many times but starting in 1978 at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto ( for some reason I remember him complaining that "why can't you get Gatorade in Canada?" - a great show though! ) See link to one of my favorite Seger songs from one of the great live albums ever....listen to this one and think of some of those great girls you hung out with back in the day........


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Posted by:

Bill M

Ray P: I suspect that most people are happy with getting 80% of what they want out of any consensus. I wouldn't have thought of Queen either, but Queen did do "Under Pressure" (with Bowie), one of my very favourite 45s - way ahead of anything by the others aside from "Get Off My Cloud". Me, I'd be content with a big stack of their 45s plus "Abbey Road", "Let It Bleed", "Who's Next", "In Through The Out Door" (just for "Fool In The Rain"). CCR I'd rank up there with Queen. Springsteen's Springsteen, no matter who's backing him. Bob Seger's band - never even makes it to the island. Our guys - you betcha: they changed the direction of popular music.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Subject: consensus?

Just curious, Kevin J--what consensus came up with those 5? I can accept the first four, no problem, but Queen? No U.S. bands in there?

Each of the first four bands on that list was and is incredibly influential. The history of rock and roll would have been much different without their contributions. Each of those bands has a solid foundation in the roots of rock and roll--blues, R + B, country. Queen's work has merit, but I don't think they are in that league, nor do I think any of Queen's albums or singles is a classic. Each of those first four has several classic albums and singles (well, maybe not singles for Zeppelin, but albums certainly).

To me, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band, and Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band are each much more important to rock and roll than Queen. I would need to know the criteria, then we could have a real debate. The Band is a special case because they never broke through to that superstar level, but I would also put them way above Queen in terms of influence and impact on the music. Booker T and the MGs would be another.


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Posted by:

Steve

jh, it's a tournament with a lofty name. The teams are made up of players whose teams have been eliminated from the NHL playoffs and players from European leagues most of whom aren't good enough to play in the NHL. It gets almost no coverage here, though the games are probably pretty exciting.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Ice hockey

Hm. Are you hockey fanatics aware of the fact that the Ice Hockey World Championship is going on in Germany these days? And... this little country with less people than central Detroit is doing quite well: We beat the Czechs, held the (goddamn) Swedes 1-1 for two periods and then made it to the final qualifying rounds. After molesting Switzerland today (see link above) we may even make it to the quarterfinals. And after that, anything may happen... (and no mentioning of the Canada match, thank you).


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: King Biscuit Boy subsequently did a non-LP single for Epic, Bobby Charles' "New Orleans". It did okay at first, but was knocked out of chart contention by the Stampeders' cover of the same song. He'd had an earlier minor hit with Dr John's "Lord Pity Us All" from the flour-bag album. The same song was covered in the same year, '71, by former Suede/Hawk Scott Cushnie's group Tundra, though it was the b-side to their own minor hit, "Band Bandit", which was written by John Rutter (previously Johnny Rhythm, also from the Suedes) who was, most confusingly, also a member of KBB and Crowbar when they did "Official Music". Cushnie's co-lead-vocalist in Tundra was Lisa Garber, whose mother was Murray McLauchlan's first manager and whose brother Victor was Jesus in the movie version of "JC Superstar". The other two members, Al Manning and Glenn Lecompte, later had a successful country-rock band, Coyote, with fiddler Gary Comeau, who our own Westcoaster got to know after Comeau moved out west.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

I turned off the game before it started....having a pretty good feeling how it was going to turn out.......as much as I want the Canadiens to win....I look at Philly's talent, size and depth at forward...Pronger at the back and actually think this might be a short series.......Philly's only question mark is their goaltending and so far so good for them on that front.....

Steve: No.......great music that sounds as good today as when it was recorded....walk into any bar in europe, the ameicas, asia or africa and almost certain that Bob Marley will be on the play list - very few other artists can claim this......On that level he ranks in all world popularity with the likes of Michael Jackson and Beatles............All that said........at least from live clips as seen on video....Bob Marley and band did not come across as knock your socks off live performers in the category of Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, The Who, The Clash, etc.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: king beignet boy

before it went down in the flood, I useta had a copy of _King Biscuit Boy_ - R. Newell's album from '74. Produced by FOB Alan Toussaint at SeaSaint studios. Housebanded by The Meters.

This Web thing is weird; I couldn't think of the title (not so bad considering there ain't one) and Amazon.ca had the right picture (KBB stmbling out of The Brown Derby in cloth capp) with the wrong track listing and then Fr. Google took me to a place where I'd downloaded the whole album in next to no time for absolutely no money - cute little mp3s complete with stylus snap, crackle, pop.


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Posted by:

David P

Bill M: Thanks for the additional background on "Gooduns". As you know, Larry Atamanuik joined the reconfigured Seatrain, another group managed by Grossman/Glotzer.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bob, the Eastern Semi Final is unfolding as it should. Since the Flyers don't come into this round with the swagger or talent of Washington or Pitt., Montreal has to build them up before they take them down. I turned it off when it was 1 nothing knowing what they were up to. 10 nothing would have been better than 6-0.

Bill, that's cute.

Kevin did you ever see Bob and any configuration of the Wailers, live?


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, I didn't realize Deb had rendered you silent. I just figured you were sharpening your crayons in preparation for your recap of the weekend's NHL developments.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: What, Bob's supposed to call you 'Dear' and say he has a headache? If so, good luck with that.


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Posted by:

Steve

Deb, you did something Bob's been trying to do for years; silence, Steve. He just isn't clever enough to think there might be an off switch. You ladies know when you're dealing with a guy there's ALWAYS an off switch.

Now, don't go telling Bob about it.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Of the consensus top 5 bands in rock n roll history - Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, Who and Queen - it really is not even close as to which band was the best live. Even an aging/splintered Who of a few years ago literally blew all other bands and performers off the stage at the 9/11 tribute show in New York......there were the occasional drunken shambles of shows in the 70's to be sure but on most nights no rock band has ever come close to matching their energy and excitement.......The Clash at their peak were great but really only had 4 good songs whereas the Who went 25 deep on any night in addition to having 3 charismatic performers in the band.......


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: McCartney; Moon

Just listen to 'Silly Love songs' a prety sappy song wiht a great bass line. My five 'go to' bassists are rick, mccartney (and I'm not a beatles worshipper), John Deacon, Jack bruce and James Jamerson...

bonk: I think the who were a little like dylan - either hte best show you ever went to, or the worst... that's why I didn't doubt your word... not that I would normally! I'm going to have a close listen to moon as well!


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Nice to see you singing the praises of King Biscuit Boy's flour-bag album. Stands the test of time, for sure. I didn't know it at the time, but have read since that the tracks with Richard Bell (and drummer Larry Atamanuik) were actually 'outtakes' from KBB's previous album, "Official Music", which was recorded when Bell and Atamanuik were still in Crowbar (though Bell had left for Janis Joplin by the time it was released). Sacrificing those tracks for some turgid blues reworkings seems a puzzling decision by the record company guys, but they were certainly put to good use in the end.

Re Entwistle playing super loud so's to keep Pete 'n' Rog on the beat, I understand that many of the larger acts these days use onstage monitors so that while the audience gets blasted back six rows by the sound coming from the speakers pointed their way, the band hears nothing more than a nice livingroom mix. Too bad the Who didn't invest in some.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Absolutely Powerful....The Fall and Rise of Theo Fleury

Sadavid...Another song I have in my music library....
Radio Baghdad...Patti Smith


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: McCartney

McCartney is regarded by many professional bass players as the very best popular music bassist. I've never heard bass players do other than sing his praise. Stylistically, I'd rate Rick Danko and Paul McCartney as similar, unlike the great soul bass players such as James Jamerson. Not that they couldn't play great riffing bass (Don't Do It for Danko, Got to Get You Into My Life for McCartney) but that generally they used the bass more musically and less rhythmically. In both cases they were supported by the very best non-flashy drummers, in Levon and Ringo. I always thought that gave them a similarity in the bass / drums dynamic.

If you take other great bass players like Jack Casady, you're into a more jazz-influenced feel, and then there's a string of highly accomplished prog bassists. But if you look at bassist comments over the years (I always notice bassist comments) from Nick Lowe to Brian Wilson to Chris Hillman, there's a tendency to single out Sir Paul.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Subject: (one of) brown eyed girl's links

Wow, I thought I'd seen it all, but that "Robbie Robertson is Greedy" site takes all the layers of the cake and a giant tub of frosting, too...

How can a person even hear what the Band sounded like through all that childish negativity???

Love the caption about how the Last Waltz was all about RR wanting to do a mountain of cocaine with Scorsese...then the blogger posts a huge photo of Rick from Scorsese's movie...

some people really need to detox (and grow up, too), those cleansing kits are widely available at health food stores and even chain pharmacies..."do it, puke, and get out"...and log off...


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland

Subject: Keith Moon

Hi Bonk,

I'm not a musician nor do I have a trained ear to judge musicians. But I think the chemistry of the Who when Moon was the drummer made them much, much more exciting and distinctive than what followed in the wake of his death.

I'm sure that Neal Peart of Rush is much, much better than Moon or just about any rock drummer, technically. But Rush leaves me cold and I think their music is cold-blooded.

Maybe I'm exaggerating when I express admiration for Moon, but really, is it fair to call him one of the worst, or the worst?

Technically, how great or even good were the Beatles (McCartney was probably the exception, but I've been told by musicians that he is a lousy bass player)? Chemistry-wise, how many musicians achieve what they did and reach as many people as they did?

I have also been told by musicians that Roger Waters is a terrible bass player. I wish I could be that terrible! And that rich!!

Moon was a powerful musician who gave the Who an energy they have lacked ever since 1978. I don't doubt Kenney Jones was the superior drummer, technically, but the thrill was gone for me when KM was gone.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, JQ. He really came into his own on John Cale's two "heavy" encores. The ovation after the first was huge (Gun / Pablo Picasso) and he came back and did a LONG version of "Walking The Dog" and according to a fansite, no second encore was planned, nor did the band know what he was going to do. They really got into it. Phenomenal playing from all, and the drumming was of the highest level.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: 9 Tracks in a Sack

At ten bucks the price was right, and I couldn't resist buying another copy of King Biscuit Boy's great "Gooduns" LP, especially an original pressing wrapped in the flour sack outer cover. This album smokes, and the CD reissue I've heard doesn't come close to sounding as good as the LP. Richard Newell and Crowbar, along with guest Richard Bell, prove they learned their lessons well from Ronnie Hawkins, as they kick it up several notches on nine scorching tracks.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Michael Jerome

PV - I believe he's an LA guy, maybe even a punker in his early days. He was part of Richard Thompson' trio once (turn of the century era), with Danny Thompson; RT's best outfit I'd say. That line-up is on RT's Austin City Limits DVD, strictly top notch -


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Ya can't stop trying or caring....but has there ever been a sadder benefit than Gulf Aid..........compare big oil companies making hundreds of millions in profit a day to plucking down $25 to watch Tab Benoit play in the hope that it might help repair some lives........Drill Baby Drill


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Posted by:

Deb

Web: My link

Dr. John and Allen Toussaint will perform today at Gulf Aid, along with Tab Benoit, Marcia Ball, Beausoleil avec Michael Doucet, Kermit Ruffins, Cyril Neville, and Monk Boudreaux, among others. Much of the concert will be broadcast online at NOLA community radio station WWOZ FM.

Band connection? Take your pick.


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Posted by:

Deb

Avail yourself of that off switch, Steve. ;o)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Drummers

I saw John Cale's "Paris 1919" show on Friday, and it was one of the ten best shows I've ever seen, with a 19-piece orchestra too. On drummers, Cale's drummer, Michael Jerome, is superb without ever being flashy. Like Levon, Steve Gadd and Jim Keltner he plays for the song. Not a solo all night.

Moon was the ultimate extravagant drummer. I can't imagine early Who with anyone lse, though he was also an appalling human being.


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Posted by:

Steve

Actually it will take a little research time to go through the credits of The Lost Waltz but you'll find the name of an east block refugee whose name mysteriously didn't appear with his comrades, Laszlo Kovacs, Vilmos Sgsmond and Boris Leven on TLW.

The name of this mystery man, Igor Larionov, the father of the on-off switch.

The man is so famous in his homeland the on\off switch is called the on-ov switch in his honour.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hei Norbert....Great find for all of us here. Thanks so much!

Direct from Ireland.....Last Waltz Revisited with Captain Kennedy


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Posted by:

Steve

I haven't seen the clip but I'm guessing that the cutting edge technology of the mid 70's, the on/off switch, was being employed.

Here's how it might work. Robbie approaches mike, flip switch to the OFF position, anyone else approaches mike, flip switch to ON position. It would make the concert" cutting edge" in yet another way, possibly being the first example of "live editing".

The Band, as usual, way ahead of their time. Live editing in the mid 70's, man those guys were good. I'm guessing that like most things the Band did we'll eventually find out it was Robbie's idea. Just another example of him taking one for the team. The guy was just so willing to take and take and take and take and......


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Posted by:

Deb

Nice one, Norbert! Thanks for posting it.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: one more

Fascinating video from a Pete Seeger TV show, featuring June Carter and Shoeless Johnny.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: More Moon

OK folks. I spent the better part of the afternoon watching and listening to old Keith Moon tracks. When he was sober and on he was good, unorthodox as hell, but good. It wasn't so much he had a bad technique, it was HIS technique. Pete Townsend says it best. " he had his own inner metronome and basically played around the beat" hence Entwistle driving the band. I guess when I seen him in the sixties (3 times) he was having a moment and I was disappointed. But watching some of the early studio sessions I have to admit he was so f..king exciting. Rest in peace crazy one.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Hank Williams & June Carter

Thanks Norbert.

Above link is a pretty corny performance but when was the last time you saw Hank Sr. and June Carter together?


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Posted by:

BWNWITenn

That footage of Bobby Charles at the Last Waltz is great. Interesting that when he moves over to sing through Robbie's mike about halfway through the clip, you can hear his voice. How the hell did that happen?


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Posted by:

bob w.

Great find, Norbert. Thank you.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Cochem, Germany (vacation)
Web: My link

Subject: Brown Eyed Girl & Bobby Charles - Down South in New Orleans (rare security footage?)

Brown Eyed Girl, thanks for your nice words the other day, I remember that oh so well, we song along TLW, was great.

Link: Bobby Charles - Down South in New Orleans, haven't seen this before, nice!


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Posted by:

Steve

Bonk, there's another reason, Entwistle, played so loud and it has nothing to do with Moon, though in a way I guess you could say it does.

I saw part of a PBS program on the way different parts of the brain work a couple of nights ago. It explained why many of us enjoy really loud music.

Right next to the eardrum is the part of the brain that is responsible for the feelings you get as your body moves about.

It's where you register the thrill of being in a car going fast around corners as an example. It's also where astronauts feel the thrill of being free of gravity when they float about weightlessly.

Stimulating that part of the brain is pleasurable for most people. Since it's located right next to the eardrum and the eardrum moves with sound waves, when sound reaches 90 decibels the eardrum is moving so violently that it physically affects the brain in a way that gives you the same feelings of euphoria as driving really fast ( if that gives you a rush) or floating about weightlessly.

They showed a rock band playing to a live crowd with a sound meter registering the decibel levels, as it reaches 90 the effect on the crowd is quite visible. People get to their feet and singing along and clapping. Unfortunately 90 decibels is where serious hearing damage starts.

So, maybe Entwistle is playing so loud to get that thrilling feeling of weightlessness because he's feeling the heavy gravitational pull of the Moon?


Entered at Sat May 15 21:47:48 CEST 2010 from (74.198.8.70)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Above link is Peter Wolf rehearshing with Shelby Lynne.......has anyone heard the new Peter Wolf release...it is getting very good reviews......

The "desert island" discs of the new Prime Minister of Britain include....."This Charming Man" by The Smiths, "All These Things I Have Done" by The Killers, "Perfect Circle" by REM and "Tangled Up in Blue" by Bob Dylan............It is disturbing enough when leaders of nations are younger than me but it is off the rails bad when conservative politicians have good taste in music.....after a tough day of curtailing abortion and gay rights - nothing more soothing than laying down to the sweet sounds of REM and The Smiths - I suppose......


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Bonk, I sure can't dismiss what you saw and heard either. Moon's "lifestyle" certainly would have created the chance of some sloppy performances. I had never heard anything about studio problems or overdubbing and, in fact, have always heard his bandmates speak of his drumming in glowing terms. I play drums as well and have always admired Moon's unique style and energy. I think he was a remarkable player.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Bonk: Thanks for that...

It certainly makes one think.... (I have nothing really to add to it, and I can't disagree with it, and thought i should acknowledge it, at least). As a general question, what about Live at Leeds? What's your opinion of that?


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: dlew919

Yes dlew. Rolls are a very valid and creative part of drumming. As you mentioned, just listen to Vinny C. But Vinny can keep time. He knows when to come back to the time signature and actually he never leaves it. Keith did not. Everyone always talks about how loud Entwistle played and how he could hurt your ears. Well, he played loud for a reason. He was driving the band in live concerts. Not him and Keith like it should have been. By himself! In live concerts Roger and Pete looked and listened to him to keep the time. Hence the volume. He was actually drowning out Keith for the other two as Moon went off on some tangent. I can listen to the recordings all day because the drumming is right on and if that's Keith then why couldn't he do it live. I think as a young man I was disappointed more than anything about the way he sounded live. And Sadavid, I wasn't slagging drummers. I am one.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Drummers...

Would like to see that Zappa drummers doco: Zappa himself started on drums, so appreciated great drummers (and Vinnie Colaiuta (sp.), Terry Bozzio, and on and on... were great drummers. James Brown was a drummer, as well... two of the great band leaders were drummers (you could add Buddy Rich and I know I'm forgetting someone) ... /n Leading me to Moon... I'm not going to argue with what you saw - I can't. It did surprise me (I'm not arguing!) that you didn't think Moon was good. I agree that Kenney Jones is a fantastic drummer. Although don't you think the rolls are a valid and creative way of drumming?

Townshend too didn't play in the studio in the early days (apparently - he keeps changing the story, I think). Jimmy Page played the rhythm track on 'Can't Explain' - I remember seeing an interview where Townshend said 'What could I do - I sat in the corner crying and being angry' but the drugs were an issue, so the more reliable Jimmy Page filled in...


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Posted by:

Steve

Sorry Kevin, got to disagree about Cole being good at any point in his career, but to each his own. I'm still sticking with the idea Cole has something on someone. He was supposed to do some playoff games last year and then pack it in but he's back again. Something's fishy.

McGuire is the most ridiculous announcer on the planet. "Sucking dirty pond water" is our favorite expression to dribble out of his mouth so far. Says something about the quality of the guys who make it into management positions in the league.

As far as Cole goes he wasn't able to keep up with the speed of the game back in the 80's and now that the game is even faster, " he's sucking dirty pond water".


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Lady Ga Ga sings Bob Cole

Steve...........Comparisons to the Danny Gallivan are an impossible benchmark to measure up to....he was simply the best - most original and elegant play by play man that the sport has ever known........he also was wise enough to know when to retire........Bob Cole is in his late 70's I believe and has lost it......but his calls in the 1980's -specifically of Patrick Roy's magical game against the Rangers in 1986 and of many other games from that era were great.......no hockey play by play man has ever had a better sense of anticipation - and it takes knowledge of the game to display this consistently..................So what if he gets names wrong or ignores silly little details..........would you rather a telecast full of imbeciles like Pierre McGuire? At least Bob Cole understands that a hockey jersey is called a "sweater" and that boards are called BOARDS and not 'The Wall" or the "Half Boards" .......and that in hockey the change room is called a"Dressing Room" and not a "Locker Room" Give me 20 more years of Bob Cole over the new generation of announcer idiots any day ( Jim Hughson & Chris Cuthbert excepted - as both are worthy of a Hockey Night in Canada mic )


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Posted by:

Steve

NB, here's the history between me and Bob Cole. In the late 70's as I remember it, he started doing the occasional game in place of Danny G. It was like driving off a well paved road onto cow path at the speed of hockey.

After a couple of games I wrote to CBC pointing out to them that this Cole guy didn't seem to know anything about hockey ( he still doesn't) and that he didn't speak in complete sentences or make any sense to boot.

Someone wrote back saying they disagreed about my assessment of Cole's ability as a play by play man.

Aside from suggesting you listen closely to him sometime here are two examples from the last game.

The puck goes into the corner in Mtl's end. Josh Gorges picks it up turns to bang it up the boards and is tripped by a Pit player, Crosby, who picks up the puck tries to dump it puck behind the Montreal net.

Cole misidentifies Gorges as Hal Gill. Gill is # 75, Gorges is #26. Gill is 6'7", Gorges is 5'10". Cole calls the play like this. "Hal Gill is pulled down by Crosby, Crosby takes the puck and throws it behind the net where it's intercepted by Hal Gill."

He doesn't seem to realize what he just said and continues on as though the universe is unfolding as it should.

He made at least 3 or 4 fucked up calls like that during that game.

When the ref stops the play to call a penalty he NEVER knows which team is getting the penalty til he sees a player skating to the box. In 30 plus years as a play by play man he hasn't clued into the fact the ref only stops play when the team getting the penalty gets control of the puck.

My favorite was in the Washington series when he commented on their power play by saying, "Oh, MTL has to be careful taking penalties, Washington has a power play that at times can score at will, maybe. Look out baby!" Now what the fuck does that mean?

Originally I assumed he was hired because of Canada's equalization payment scheme. One less Cole on the dole.

At the time Newfoundland had high unemployment and was being carried financially by Ontario tax money.

But since roles have been reversed with Newfoundland sending loonies to Ontario and Cole still being on the broadcast team I'm guessing he's got something on someone in upper management.


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Posted by:

Bill M

NB: You probably just emitted those Cup-winning years just to tease pedants. You probably know that Les Canadiens won in '56, '57, '58, yawn, '59 and '60, then the best-suited guys in all of hockey, Chicago, won in '61 (Pat B will correct me if I'm wrong in pointing out that they haven't won a single time in all the many many years since), then the Leafian hordes won in '62, '63 and '64. More Habs then the T-dot again in '67. Then it stopped mattering so much.

sadavid: You, on the other hand, are absolutely correct. Randy Bachman should not be allowed to sing. ("Amp good, mike bad" should be his mantra.) Same goes for Don Cherry, who leaves Cole in the shade in terms of unlistentoability.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: sure, slag the drummer

BONK: I have no reason to disbelieve R. Bachman's opinions re: R. Bachman's drumming, but I find it appalling that he continues to let himself (Randy) sing. Whatever one looks for in a singing voice, he doesn't have it, in spades. He released a new CD a couple of years ago, I heard some of it on the radio - just horrible. Saw him again on PBS a couple days ago - just horrible. (B. Cummings, on the other hand, still has his chops, pretty much, and like JRR, his hair defies nature by getting darker with age.) I think autotune is evil, but if this guy insists on a live mic, maybe there's an argument for it.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

BEG's post reminds us of how great hockey nicknames used to be........"Rocket" ( the original ) , "Pocket Rocket", "Boom Boom", "Gump".......all on one team .....now everyone is "Burkie" or "Smithy", etc........I really do hope the Montreal Canadiens can go all the way.....unlike the other comparable great sports franchises in the world like Manchester United or New York Yankees........the Montreal Canadiens play in a league where a team cannot just purchase a championship.........

Two other points on hockey........Jonathan Toews is the most impressive young player in the game ( he was Canada's best forward in the Olympics and might have been the best player in the history of the World Junior championships ) and because of him I would think Chicago might be the favourite to win the Cup....................A few years ago on some fashion show ( don't ask! ) one of those icons with blonde hair and a lisp ( JP Gauthier? ) ranked Chicago's away uniform ( the white one ) as the best uniform in sports.....the Montreal Canadiens home sweater was a close second.......I agree with that....


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Posted by:

NB

For the hundreds of you finding it impossible to believe that that I haven't been right twice-in-a-row about anything since 1963, to verify this you can either tap into The Akashic Records through astral projection, or if that's too much like work, go play Astral Weeks backwards a whole bunch of times. Or as I say, you can just wait for the CD version of the records to be released. NB


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tranh

Bonk: For some reason I'm disappointed that it wasn't Keith Moon on the records. I especially like how the drums play the lead breaks instead of the guitar on some of the early hits, while the guitar sticks to playing the rhythm. Any idea who did the overdubbing?

Steve: Today's paper has a story about Subban, Camilleri and a couple of other Hab standouts all being from Toronto. You could see it as payback for the 401-ers, I suppose.

And speaking former Torontonians, I flipped through a bit of Harry Shapiro's newish biography of Jack Bruce, who started school here. "I was a happy little Canadian boy", he is quoted as saying, but his parents gave up and returned to Scotland after just three years. Given his age, I'm sure he would have wound up with Hawkins had he stayed. Imagine that!

JTF: Lee Oskar too. If he's still with War you might ask him if he's kept his Canuckistani citizenship. (BEG: His brother was one of the jewellers with tables on Gould at Yonge, just around the corner from both Sam's and Ryerson.)


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Posted by:

NB

When hockey went all gooney in the 70's with Boston and Philly yet Montreal maintained the skilled, skating game with Shutt, Lemaire, Lafleur etc, I switched over. Actually, their classic New Year's Eve games against the reviled Rooskies sealed the deal for me Steve. Though being a kid in Toronto when the Leafs won Cups in '64, '65 and '67 was pretty cool.

Is it Bob Cole's voice you hate so much, or the content of his remarks ? NB


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Posted by:

Steve

Charlie, while I share your hopes for the former Expos it is kind of early to start watching the standings. But I respect your enthusiasm and support for our shared team.

If they're still in the race in September I promise to try and get Landy to scour the bars in Montreal for, Youppi, The Expos' mascot. He is a big, stupid looking, orange, hairy thing that looks like a Sesame Street reject. If he's found and can be sobered up we'll point him south and send him on his way. Hopefully his passport is up to date.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth on organ (with Dixie Hummingbirds) at Rockefeller Park, NYC. I was there too. Levon was a no show....


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

WFUV Gala 2010: Levon Helm. Click photos to enlarge.

Stevon Farm: Three of the biggest hockey fans in my class were rooting for the Pitts....absolute traitors!
My late Ma would be so elated now to know that her team (Habs) are a contender.....Back in the day she'd tell me stories about the Rocket and the Pocket.....She watched hockey religiously since she emigrated to Canada. She was also a huge fan of baseball, soccer, basketball and football as well.
Go Habs!


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Posted by:

Steve

BEG, thanks for the NHL hockey songs. Good to see Sidney Crosby attached to the song, Holy Diver.

Pat, don't get all dreamy about the season past. Washington was 10-5-3 against the west. They're now gone. Pitt was 9-7-2, they're gone as well.

NB, It's completely understandable that a guy from a city with no NHL team would go looking elsewhere for a team. Montreal was of course a wise choice.

When I said Cammy had 10 goals I was getting sloppy. During game 6 , The Idiot Bob Cole, said that he had score 9 of MTL's 12 goals in the series. Then he scored another in game 7 and I figured that made 10. Cole is the biggest idiot involved in sports broadcasting that I'm aware of and it was my fault for believing anything he says. I should have had the TV on mute as I usually do when he's doing the play by play. My mistake.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Say what

Link is to a review of a Greil Marcus book on 'the basement tapes'. Review refers to Dylan's cohorts, the Hawks, as an Atlanta band.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: Dylans Jacket from the Last Waltz


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Moon the Loon

BONK: My only experience of seeing The Who in concert was the 1979 tour (a few shows after eleven people were trampled to death in Ohio at a general admission stampede). Kenny Jones was wonderful and that remains one of the best concerts I've ever witnessed.

That new documentary about The Doors includes an interesting section filmed at a concert when The Who opened for The Doors. Not a bad twin bill.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: The Who

Hey Ray. Keith Moon was probably the worst drummer in the history of R&R. He had absolutely no clue about timing or rudiments. He was all rolls and nothing else. I used to catch the concerts in the sixties/early seventies and go away thinking, that's not how the record sounds. It was because when it came time to record the studio albums his licks were fixed or overdubbed. And Keith knew about it. He knew he sucked and drank his face off. And to someone who was fragile to begin with it just made it worse. Great showman. Terrible drummer. Kenny Jones had it all over him. Another one that comes to mind is Randy Bachman's brother. If you read Randy's bio, he said he would wait until Robbie went home then fix the drum tracks in the studio. Nobody ever asked Robbie to drum when BTO was done. Sad, but true.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

So Pat, have you bought your Jethro Tull/Procol Harum tickets for your area yet? I think your show is June 20th. I am catching them June 8th up in Northern VA. Also splurged this week on Green Day, Simon and Garfunkel, and Roger Waters for October. Might be able to squeeze in Jack Bruce and War in August too.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland lawrence kansas

Subject: drummers

Agreed:

The Who became the What? when they insisted on continuing without Keith Moon.

Yes, Charlie Y, seeing and hearing Richard Manuel drumming was a treat. That happened for me in November 1983 when I attended The Band's show in Denver, Colorado.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Baseball

The former Montreal Expo franchise has finally evolved into a real contender in DC (at least so far this season). The team has some fine veterans and promising youngsters working together with a great spirit worth watching. They're still not getting the level of support they deserve, but DC was never a baseball city.


Entered at Fri May 14 00:26:23 CEST 2010 from vance014.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.53)

Posted by:

NB

Web: My link

Subject: Cosmic Unconsciousness

C's 12 goals come from seven in the last series, (not 10 as you stated) and five in the previous one.

I only predicted Pittsburgh to beat Montreal because I'm a loyal Hab fan, Steve. You probably don't get how all this cosmic shit works but if you check in The Akashic Records (soon to be out in CDs) you'll see that I have not been correct twice-in-a-row about anything since 1963. (My wife's records though, indicate I haven't been correct even once-in-a-row about anything since 1954). ERGO, by constantly predicting that Montreal's opponents will beat them, I outwit the hockey gods and ensure Montreal's eventual triumph in the playoffs. But if you'd rather I pick Montreal to win all their remaining games, I will, but don't blame me if they get swept out on their derrieres. NB


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, not so amazing when you realize that the 80 game exhibition means nothing--except in the west where #1 is playing #2. I guess they play for real out here all of the time. Probably keeps 'em sharp.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth...Hamilton Music Awards


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth Hudson with Maud and Tom Wilson...Hamilton Music Awards


Entered at Thu May 13 23:33:34 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279464135.dsl.bell.ca (76.67.18.199)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Garth Hudson...Hamilton Music Awards


Entered at Thu May 13 23:21:23 CEST 2010 from 21cust52.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.52)

Posted by:

Steve

Pat, that's the second team that couldn't shoot straight. Amazing that the team that had the best record during the 80 game exhibition season, and who were picked by many hockey analysts to win the cup developed an inability to shoot straight as did the defending Stanley Cup winners, as you pointed out.

Here's predicting that whichever team turns out to be NB's next team( Philly or Boston) comes down with same affliction, or would that be effliction.

Hottest selling team sweater( jersey) in MTl is the PK Subban model. They are actually out of them in the city and only have T shirts with his name on them left.

Dick Irvin, who's been involved with the Canadiens since the 40's( through his dad) says Subban plays like Guy Lapointe . Compliments don't come much higher than that. If he keeps progressing like he has in the last 2 years he'll start being compared to, Larry Robinson, next.

His play has been so solid people seem to forget that we're playing without Markov our top defenseman.

Sorry NB, I know how you're into facts. Cammalleri has 12 goals so far in the playoffs.

Right now Montreal is working Miracles with a defense that is missing it's its best player, has two 36 year old guys that are past their best before dates, a 35 year old guy with 50 clips holding a gash in the back of his leg together, a guy who is on the team only to play the point on powerplays ( he's about minus a million for the season)a 20 year old with 10 games NHL experience and Josh Gorges who wasn't drafted by any team in his draft year. Stay tuned.


Entered at Thu May 13 22:14:53 CEST 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279310103.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.185.23)

Posted by:

Kevin J

On drummers.........think of Winston Watson literally kicking the fog out of Bob Dylan's head and career in the mid 90's...indispensible he was.....or how Mick Jagger sounds like wet tissue paper without Charlie Watts..........REM became irrelevant as soon as Bill Berry left ( he was also a songwriter of distinction in the band contributing "Everybody Hurts" and "Man on the Moon" of note ).......the list goes on and on..........Led Zep paid the ultimate compliment by simply folding the band when their drummer expired .............The Who should have done the same..............

Only comment on the UK elections is just how odd it is that the lefties in Britain look like righties ( Gordon Brown ) and the righties look like lefties...........Gordon Brown could be Conrad Black's long lost son...........how is that a guy who looks like that could even have kids......although as a bartender was heard saying the other day when asked about the impossibility of something....."Look......Larry King has been married 9 times - case closed"


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Little Drummer

That kid is so amazing on the drum kit I thought for a minute there was some sort of video fakery at work there. Thanks for sharing that, Joan. I've been watching a DVD featuring five drummers who worked with Frank Zappa, mostly just talking about him and how he used them in his music. It gives me a new appreciation of the role of the drummer. They usually don't get the respect they deserve. The Band had one brilliant drummer and a quirky backup one (I'm thankful I got to see Richard Manuel on drums on a few memorable occasions).


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the little drummer boy

Joan: Yeah, but can he drive to the library?


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Linda

Welcome! I would love to hear your memories of Richard.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Levon better watch out

Totally amazing!


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Posted by:

Pat B

Steve, congrats on beating the team that couldn't shoot straight.


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Posted by:

NB

Seven goals, not ten. Affect, not effect. Don't go for accuracy just on my account though. NB


Entered at Thu May 13 14:57:34 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: moving day @ No. 10

Apparently P. Viney is not the only one to wonder:

"David Cameron showed up 90 minutes after Gordon Brown resigned. How did the former PM pack his bags so quickly?"


Entered at Thu May 13 13:34:00 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400673.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.26.225)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

NHLers and Their Favourite Songs


Entered at Thu May 13 13:27:36 CEST 2010 from 21cust203.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.203)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: For Pat

Boom Boom, out go the lights. First game played in Pitt's arena in 1967, Montreal 2 Pitt 1. Last game played in Pitt's arena, Montreal 5 Pitt. 2.

Some stats from the series; Malkin, one goal, Crosby 1 goal, Cammalleri 10 goals. In the playoffs overall, Montreal 310 blocked shots. The team with the second most blocked shots, Chicago 190.


Entered at Thu May 13 13:09:26 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400673.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.26.225)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"I love the season changes.

I play patterns. I'll make up a pattern and just play it.

I still don't know how to read music.

There are no managers like there used to be managers. "

Richard Manuel


Entered at Thu May 13 12:59:31 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400673.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.26.225)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Linda. Yes...Please share some memories of Richard.

"Richard Manuel was one of Stratford, Ontario, Canada's most famous sons. As a child, he sang in a church choir and played piano starting at age nine. Manuel started his first band while attending Stratford Collegiate Vocational Institute (now Stratford Central Secondary School; 60 St. Andrew Street, Stratford, ON, 519-271-4500). The band began as The Rebels but Manuel changed it to The Revols to differentiate it from another popular group. The Revols also included Ken Kalmusky, who went on to play with Ronnie Hawkins, Ian and Sylvia, Jerry Reed and Todd Rundgren. The third famous member of the Revols was John Till, who played with Janis Joplin in her Full Tilt Boogie Band. The Revols were discovered by Ronnie Hawkins in 1960 and Hawkins hired both Manuel and Till. Till eventually returned to the Revols to be able to stay in school."


Entered at Thu May 13 12:21:29 CEST 2010 from test-proxy.bcu.ac.uk (193.60.133.202)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: UK

Subject: Welcome Linda

Welcome Linda - that's brilliant that you were a school pal of Richard. Any memories? Did you attend music classes with him? When did you last see him?


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Posted by:

Linda (Sarvis) Rumble

Location: Stratford

I grew-up, went to church and school with Richard (Beak). He certainly was a character from day one. R.I.P. Richard.


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Posted by:

Sonny Rock

Location: WRIP 97.9 FM
Web: My link

Subject: THANK YOU!!

Thank You Prof. Louie and Miss Marie for being on WRIP 97.9 FM's Local Licks radio show. Your live in house performance was awesome. You both are a great asset to the history of music and the future of music history. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!! Sonny Rock


Entered at Thu May 13 01:25:22 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400113.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.24.177)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


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Posted by:

bob w.

My pleasure. If I didn't post it I'm sure you would have directed us to it sooner or later.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks for that. What an excellent review. I'd forgotten all about it, plus the poster Jan added of the girl in the blue Festival Express T-shirt is excellent. I might dig the DVD out later.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

"Alleged", Mr. Editor?


Entered at Wed May 12 18:37:20 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Ernie Corallo, guitarist on Vintage Violence, was in Stan and the Ravens with Szelest and Konikoff. And he too knew the Hawks - even visiting Robbie's mother's house in the early '60s. He was also in a group that Ronnie Hawkins assembled to back singer Matt Lucas - Corallo on guitar, Konikoff on drums and Kelly Jay (later of Crowbar) on piano. All four of them independently told me exactly the same story of Ernie being too young to be onstage in a bar in Indiana so using a very long extension cord and playing from the kitchen.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Bill, it’s true that people slam out at things because of something in their past rather than because of the thing they’re slamming. You know, they obsess about a radio station that didn't play them, or at someone’s alleged neckwear or whatever because of something in THEIR own lives.

Anyway, maybe Lou Reed’s outburst was because of John Cale recording “Vintage Violence” with Stan Szelest and Sandy Konikoff, both from Buffalo but more or less adopted Canadians with Band associations? He probably knew what Robbie had said about the VU.

I started reading the lyrics to Paris 1919 … I didn’t know, or had forgotten, that Lowell George and Richie Hayward played on it, with Wilton Felder on bass. I used to think the lyrics to “Surf’s Up” were inpeneterable, but they’re clarity itself next to Paris 1919. That’s maybe the joy of it. Words melting together.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, that might be true but it doesn't effect the more powerful obligation he's constrained by; Conservetherich. I'm betting on him living up to his party's name.

When our Neo Con felt he had a chance to get a slim majority by calling what was essentially an ilegal election, he called in the leaders of the other three parties for 15 minute one on one chats and then announced he was calling an election because nobody was being cooperative. He didn't even bother to explain what the unmovable object or objects were.

Fortunately he's a crappy campaigner and his poll numbers slide during elections as he tries to play one group off against another


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Thanks, David. Here's the link to Monday night's performance.


Entered at Wed May 12 16:48:32 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Optimism in the face of such odds is a lovely thing to see, so stay with that happy thought that you won't have another national election for five years. Nevertheless, others among us will continue to believe that the minority situation pretty much dictates a defeat way before 2015.

Peter V again: Re Lou Reed's 1975 thoughts on MMM, the specificity of the slam at CHUM (standing in for all Canadians) suggests personal feelings of annoyance or betrayal or something. Maybe he'd just had a falling out with producer Bob Ezrin and/or drummer Whitey Glan and/or bassist Prakash John - all of the genus Canuckistani Torontoensis.


Entered at Wed May 12 16:15:39 CEST 2010 from s0106000a956fbfac.cq.shawcable.net (70.78.227.122)

Posted by:

NB

Well SOMEONE'S got to throw the occasional intentional mistake in there posts just to see whose paying contention. (Answer ? -usually no one). Go Habs ! NB


Entered at Wed May 12 15:56:34 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Nashville Flood

Deb: Thanks for posting that link. As mentioned in the article, many Nashville-based musicians store their equipment & instruments at the huge Soundcheck facility, by the Cumberland River, which is also used for rehearsal space & film/video soundstaging. In addition to Vince Gill, Brad Paisley & Keith Urban, who are about to go on tour together, lost most of their equipment. Mr. Urban, however, managed to get some gear together for an appearance last night on the Jimmy Fallon show, where he performed a rousing version of the Stones' "Tumbling Dice", with guest keyboardist Chuck Leavell (see link).


Entered at Wed May 12 15:51:29 CEST 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

I was listening to RXP this morning and the morning DJ's were talking about how they were chatting with Robbie Robertson last night at MOMA for the premier of the Rolling Stones doc about the making of Exile on Maint St.


Entered at Wed May 12 14:15:13 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279464199.dsl.bell.ca (76.67.19.7)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Louuu put out that record....'cause he's Louuu Reed. He's in love with feedback. A poster from this site sent a couple of tracks from MMM and yeah....I can't dig it but groups like Sonic Youth can. Anyway, I would add Louuu's "New York" recording as one of my fave's.....and then there's Louuu and his meditation CD.


Entered at Wed May 12 14:04:26 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Metal Machine Music

I like every Lou Reed album except for just the one.

UNCUT June 2010

Allan Jones’s retrospective endpiece goes back to an interview with Lou Reed conducted in 1975 just after the release of Metal Machine Music. Canadians look away now!

LOU REED: Can you imagine the look on some guy’s face when he brings (Metal Machine Music) to some programme controller and says,’Hey gang, wanna listen to Lou Reed’s new album?’ And they play it and go “Arghh. Get it outta here.’ The whole thing was so fuck*ng hysterical. Excruciatingly funny. Like they take it to CHUM Radio in Canada, like the fuc*ing Canadians are gonna get it. It’s not a moose or an elk or ice hockey. But they take it to CHUM radio, and the guys at CHUM are like, ‘Is there something, uh, wrong with the record, Fred? It doesn’t sound right. Should we try the other side. And they turn it over and it’s the same thing. That record is the closest I’ve ever come to perfection.”

Well, there you go. But it is, indeed, unarguably, total shite. And just re-released too.

Anyway, I'm off to see John Cale on Friday doing his full "Paris 1919". A full week of non-stop Vintage Violence and Paris 1919 convince me they're two of the four best post-VU albums (the others for me being Transformer and Rock & Roll Animal).

STEVE: You forget. David is an old Etonian, therefore a man of honour (or perhaps "chap" of honour.)


Entered at Wed May 12 14:03:00 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279464199.dsl.bell.ca (76.67.19.7)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"I am so proud of this collection of amazing songs and artists that have come together for this new True Blood soundtrack," stated Gary Calamar, music supervisor and soundtrack producer. "I think the new songs from Beck, Robbie Robertson, and Lucinda Williams are some of their best work, haunting and beautiful. If Jace Everret and CC Adcock's new version of Howlin Wolf's "Evil" doesn't scare the pants off of you... you're a stronger person than me."


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

PeterV - thanks for the personal insights on your election. We swamp you with our stuff, so it is nice to read about what's going on elsewhere. It made me pay attention to other elections - thanks again.


Entered at Wed May 12 13:59:24 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279464199.dsl.bell.ca (76.67.19.7)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

True Blood comes out May 25.

(Robbie) "Robertson's track 'How to Become Clairvoyant' is culled from his upcoming studio album, his first in 11 years, according to an official announcement." I have seen a clairvoyant twice in my life. The first time I was high for a month just like the first time I met Robbie Robertson. :-D

S.M......I do understand and I'm glad you were linked back up. I don't think it's included in the Pictures part of this website.....


Entered at Wed May 12 12:33:07 CEST 2010 from 21cust221.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.221)

Posted by:

Steve

Peter, dear fellow, you're living with a minority CONservative gov't now, agreed to rules mean nothing. Our Neo Con, Harpo, brought in a fixed election date as soon as he became Prime Minister and then called an election 2 and a half years ahead of time. I'd go with Bill's assessment of when the next election is called.

When we bought our first farm, this is the second one, we had a somewhat different surprise when we moved in.

The guy who we bought it from, like our current PM, didn't really believe he had to follow any agreements he signed his name to. Which led to a little bad blood by the time he moved out.

Unlike the people you dealt with he removed things rather than intentionally leaving some goodies.

He took the light bulbs as well as all the fuses from the fuse box and for the coup de gras, the door handle from the bathroom.

But like all assholes they are their own worst enemy.

Once we got some fuses and light bulbs working we discovered that he'd been too busy trying too piss us off to make sure he'd packed everything that was his. We found his liquor cabinet well stocked with bottles of wine, a bottle of bourbon, a bottle of gin and a bottle of Grand Marnier. We quickly forgave him.

NB, no need to explain, we just assume when we see a mistake it was intentional. What other explanation could there be?


Entered at Wed May 12 11:08:21 CEST 2010 from c-61-68-107-212.hay.connect.net.au (61.68.107.212)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Norm, you know what they say...

If it's too loud, you're too old (ducks, grins, runs out...)


Entered at Wed May 12 04:42:51 CEST 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Concert & Nashville

I guess If a person wants to, you can always be a critic, and with good values honestly say what you do and don't like about any concert.

That being said, I would be hard pressed to find anything I didn't like about the Eagles concert at GM Place last night. That gawd damn big "Garage" they call it sure has a magnificent sound system. Some times maybe the enthusiasmn of a few songs got pretty damn loud. When you can feel the vibes of the bottom end thumping you in the chest, that is loud.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time listing off songs. They started out with some new material that of course they are trying to promote. Easy slid into their long standing hits, (down on the floor where we were in the 13th row) we were all dancing.

As we were the third night of their stay in Vancouver, I thought maybe they would be wearing down a little. However those songs were as fresh as ever. I really like the song "Long Road Out of Eden". The video work behind the songs, the light work was spectacular.

The guys started spot on at 7:30 PM as scheduled about halfway thru their show they took a break for about 15 minutes. At 11:00 PM they left.....on returning for a 4 song encore, they started with "Take it Easy" Glenn had definitly "Taken it to the Limit" his voice was barely holding up for that. He had a tensor cuff on his right wrist. I know the pain of that tendonitis at our age from playing guitar every night like that.

Although Don Henley hit his highs perfectly on all those songs he does that, (example Witchy Woman). When he came out front, and some of the new songs there is a mellowness and bottom end in his voice that is suprisingly good. As I've never heard him live like that before I thought his voice not as thin as it has seemed to be to me on recordings, and youtube.

Getting to watch front and centre Joe, and Stuart harmonize licks is a treat. Joe did some of his real rockers that were great, but Loud, and the funny stories, and coming out on their encore, wore a Vancouver Canucks Jersey.

While waiting for the show to start, Lorne & I got to discussing Nashville, as Lorne spent a fair amount of time there. Some how we got to discussing some songs. The biggest country hits, and we got to "Friends in Low Places" Lorne says hey y'know I got to drinkin' beer one day in that Blue Bird Cafe with. Earl Bud Lee, and I didn't realize at first that he wrote that song. So one of the guys told me that. So I say to him did you write that song and he says yeah, and he told me how he came up with the line.....goin' to pay for his bill and haven no money on him. So Lorne says to him, well....why am I buyin' all the drinks here? Earl says 'cause you keep pullin' out yer wallet....then he says we'll buy the whole place if you want. So Lorne says .....joking, so the song did alright??

Earl says......well the first royalty cheque got me into the millionaires club.......the second one got me into a clinic....and laughs like hell.

Anyway, the Eagles sold out GM Place, 25,000 + for three nights, and so many more people want 'em, (but all the rooms were booked for other things) but they are doing the Pacific Coloseum, (15,000+) Friday night. So I guess there is a few folks around here enjoying them. Their keyboard men, and their horn section are superb. Easily one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Northern Buoy: While strolling around waiting for the ferry home from the Sechelt Peninsula at Earl's Cove there were posters advertising all the venues coming to the "Garden Bay Pub" in Pender Harbour where I played for many years. They included Jim Byrnes. I believe the 3 & 4 of June, or there abouts.

At the end of the day, out here we really like the Eagles and their show is hard to beat the new songs and the old. Still done with all the energy, and for me, I think they sound better than they ever did. Maybe the improvements in equipment from close to 30 years ago makes some of the difference. But I think those harmonies are great, like the great harmonies the Hollies had produced and a few other bands. It's a part of our life I was happy to be a part of.


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Posted by:

Deb

Web: My link

Some irreplaceable casualties of the flooding in Nashville.


Entered at Wed May 12 01:08:10 CEST 2010 from ool-44c628ae.dyn.optonline.net (68.198.40.174)

Posted by:

Gene

Subject: NB

Il n'y a pas de quoi, mon ami.


Entered at Wed May 12 00:38:12 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Bill M … probably not. They agreed on a fixed term parliament (unless there's a defeat) meaning that David Cameron won't be able to play the normal British card of calling an election when the opinion polls tell you to. The fixed parliament was at the heart of the deal.

I haven't watched six hours of politics on TV in years.


Entered at Wed May 12 00:20:31 CEST 2010 from vance014.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.53)

Posted by:

NB

Hygiene. How's it going ? Actually, the spell check thingy told me it was misspelled when I made that post, so je n'ai pas besoin de go look up the friggin' spelling of the word now, as your post so kindly suggested. My thinking was that since language (unlike certain GBers) is constantly evolving, I'd just leave it wrong till the language eventually evolved and it became right. Thus actually putting myself "ahead of the curve", as opposed to "behind the eight ball" in some imagined competition with Stevon Farm (who doesn't know "it's" from "its", but who assures me he knows "tits" from "tit's".) Thanks so much, nonetheless. NB


Entered at Tue May 11 23:48:05 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: That election's over now, but never fear, another one's just around the corner. Looks to me like Cameron was handed the reins without any kind of formal accord or coalition with Clegg, meaning that the only thing that vote-weary Britons have going for them is Clegg's fear that the public will squash him if he pulls the plug too soon. But without a signed pact to keep him in check, Cameron is likely to introduce something that Clegg can't possibly support approximately sixty seconds after the release of the first poll suggesting Cameron's in majority territory. Better learn to like it - won't hurt so much that way.


Entered at Tue May 11 23:04:29 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Borscht Belt redux

Lars: Exactly - Rick doing stand-up in the Catskills, an obvious career move since "Across The Great Divide".


Entered at Tue May 11 22:43:10 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: All is resolved …

Well it’s resolved. The election is finally over

But on these sorts of occasions so many questions come to mind. What’s the etiquette of deciding to call upon the Queen at her home to offer your resignation at 7.30 p.m.? Personally, I resent people turning up unexpectedly when I’m having dinner, and the Queen is 84 years young. I wouldn’t dream of disturbing people of that age just before, during or just after their evening meal. Gordon Brown was determined to upstage the expected announcement of a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition, timed for 8.30 p.m., but even so …

Then of course she had to wait for David Cameron who got rather longer time. Did she and Prince Philip snatch a meal in the fifteen minute gap? Or were they served dried-up warmed-up supper later? Did the parade of politicians interfere with their TV viewing perhaps? Did Prince Philip manage to get the timer going on the TV recorder in time? The nation needs to know.

Then you have to think of David Cameron going back to No. 10 Downing Street. There’s no transition time in Britain, just 30 minutes. Former minister Nigel Hesseltine told the TV audience that he would be immediately whisked off to be briefed on the security codes for nuclear weapons.

But what then? Gordon Brown was intent on clinging on to power by his fingernails only a couple of hours earlier. But the new Prime Minister and family have to stay there in Number 10. Were the staff rushing around to change the beds? Was there a rush to get the ring off the bath and the hair out of the plug-hole? The Prime Minister’s apartment is allegedly self-financed. Did the Browns leave a welcoming bottle of milk in the fridge? We moved into one house to find milk and butter in the fridge, a loaf of bread and a wedge of cheese, and a bottle of fine red wine and two lovely wine glasses on the table. We resolved to do that whenever we moved out in future.

Or was Gordon unscrewing all the light bulbs and putting them in a box on the way out? He always had a parsimonious streak.The first flat we ever owned that happened. The previous owners took all the light bulbs. We moved in on a summer Saturday and it was virtually dark with no shops open before we noticed. We spent our first night by candlelight.


Entered at Tue May 11 22:42:22 CEST 2010 from ool-44c628ae.dyn.optonline.net (68.198.40.174)

Posted by:

Gene

Subject: NB vs Stoned Farmer

Sorry NB, but you were beaten by the stoned farmer on one count. Better check the spelling on 'millennium'


Entered at Tue May 11 21:59:01 CEST 2010 from ool-44c628ae.dyn.optonline.net (68.198.40.174)

Posted by:

Gene

Subject: bob w.

Don't forget "pompous."


Entered at Tue May 11 21:20:49 CEST 2010 from cpe-204-210-144-110.hvc.res.rr.com (204.210.144.110)

Posted by:

Lars

Subject: people who aren't afraid to ask a hard question

I was never bothered by any of Norm's rants. I just figured he put them in the book to laugh at.

If you WERE shot, Steve, I would probably plant a pansy as a memorial to you.

"I'm in a hard place right now, because I'm too old to work, but I'm too young to retire. Maybe I'll become a comedian." ---Rick Danko, around 1998 (?), at one of his shows


Entered at Tue May 11 21:00:38 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Clairvoyance

As we are still awaiting answers to those questions addressed to Sebastian, at least we'll soon be getting a preview of sorts of his father's forthcoming album. Robbie's "How To Become Clairvoyant" will be included on True Blood II soundtrack (see Jan's what's new section).


Entered at Tue May 11 20:54:12 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: the Lightfoot tribute

I'm with Charlie Y, even if he neglected to mention that Richard Bell's on a track or two, including BARK's version of "Summer Side Of Life".


Entered at Tue May 11 19:28:10 CEST 2010 from pool-74-108-31-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Mountain Jam

This is a link to the Mountain Jam honoring Levon on his 70th birthday.


Entered at Tue May 11 18:47:29 CEST 2010 from d216-121-194-179.home3.cgocable.net (216.121.194.179)

Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: brown eyed girl

Link working now.

Sorry, I panicked when I could not get my "smiling Robbie" fix.


Entered at Tue May 11 18:23:55 CEST 2010 from 21cust61.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.61)

Posted by:

Steve

Lars, I picked, Norm, as he's called for the same action to be taken against me more times than I can remember. I must ask, did you find it cruel then as well?

Peter, could you imagine the carnage if I put out a contract on someone wearing lime green pants and pink Argyle socks. The ground would be littered with dead clowns.


Entered at Tue May 11 18:15:46 CEST 2010 from d216-121-194-179.home3.cgocable.net (216.121.194.179)

Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: brown eyed girl

What happened to your link to the "smiling Robbie" picture?

Can you put it on again please?


Entered at Tue May 11 16:49:21 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Allegorical Back Nine

"I'm walkin' around with these spiked shoes on
Oh, it feels a little obscene
Mother nature with a manicure
Up here on this green"

--from "The Back Nine" by Loudon Wainwright III (included on his excellent, hard to find 1986 album "More Love Songs", co-produced by Richard Thompson).


Entered at Tue May 11 15:11:19 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: (north) american master

ray pence: by sheer luck I caught most of the _American Masters_ program on Neil Young the other night (thank goodness PBS reruns the good stuff from time to time, and not just the L. Welk). A very impressive production, and a very impressive subject - I was struck by Mr. Young's unflinching self-awareness and also by the fact that all the other interviewees (at least the ones I saw) seemed to be 100% in agreement with Neil's own assessment.


Entered at Tue May 11 14:05:28 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279426053.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.126.5)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Misunderstood


Entered at Tue May 11 13:51:29 CEST 2010 from cpe-204-210-144-110.hvc.res.rr.com (204.210.144.110)

Posted by:

Lars

Subject: sundry

Yeah, Steve...now you're being cruel.

That reminds me, beware of Yellow Tavern, Jeb.

"I love to play; a stage is a safe place for me to be. It's not that way for most folks, but I'd be lost without it."---Rick Danko, "Brainy Quote"


Entered at Tue May 11 13:49:06 CEST 2010 from pool-98-114-57-202.phlapa.fios.verizon.net (98.114.57.202)

Posted by:

bob w.

Golf attire comments by douchebags wearing ascots. Fucking beautiful.


Entered at Tue May 11 13:29:03 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Can't you use Bob as your hypothetical victim, Steve? Those guys with lime green golfer's pants and pink Argyll socks deserve something. But yes, obviously BP are culpable or they wouldn't be Shell-ing out (unfortunate pun, there). They said that on TV. It was just that they weren't operating the rig at the time, which gave me some small grain of hope over their local operation here.


Entered at Tue May 11 13:15:49 CEST 2010 from 21cust8.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.8)

Posted by:

Steve

Peter, so, if I put out a contract on Norm( using a random poster as the hypothetical victim) it would only be the gunman who should be held culpable? If Beyond Petroleum wasn't guilty they'd not be paying for the cleanup. Nobody spends that kind of cash unless they have absolutely no chance of washing their hands of the mess.


Entered at Tue May 11 09:39:08 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Actually, I read something interesting on The Doors in "The Word" yesterday. Well it wasn't on The Doors music as such, but on their logo. Elektra's in house designer, Bill Harvey, decided to design logos for all the major bands on the label for use on the LPs and singles, so you get the Doors logo, and the Love logo. The Doors logo is fascinating for its clarity and simplicity, with the strike throughs on the O's at different angles. Love's "splodge" is equally distinctive. Anyway, these logos were then given to the bands for future use. Looking through the Elektra box set, they all had strong logos at the time … Clear Light, Ars Nova, Eclection, The Dillards. Not all kept them as memorably as The Doors and Love, but then again I suppose the bands stayed in the rock histories more prominently. Deservedly in the case of Love.

I love to see designers, photographers and artists getting credit for the iconography of rock.


Entered at Tue May 11 04:04:32 CEST 2010 from 154.127.124.24.cm.sunflower.com (24.124.127.154)

Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas) and waiting for July 5 and Levon in KC
Web: My link

Subject: PBS Doors Documentary this week

Whether or not one cared for the Doors then or now--and we all know what Robbie thought of them--there's no question in my mind that this PBS American Masters documentary airing this week is not to be missed. I will be recording it not on a TIVO which I don't have, but on a faithful comfortable shoe of a VHS player which I do:

--Interviews with Jim M's father reflecting on his struggle to understand his son and his music, for goodness sake, and his sister.

--Loads of archival films and all the other state of the art documentary craft that makes this series watchable whatever the topic.

--If you've seen the American Masters films on Sam Cooke and Marvin Gaye you know where I'm coming from.

What all of this leads or should lead to is, of course, an American Masters film on The Band. Something to achieve at least a modicum of perspective and objectivity about their accomplishments and legacy. A golden mean between the documentary versions that are out there and have been for a while. A fresh take that doesn't rely on Greil Marcus, Barney Hoskyns, the feud, the waltz, any of that. Bring it on, I say, and I also say we lobby PBS to get cracking on this long, long overdue project.

There are several folks right here on this Guestbook who would be invaluable behind the camera for consultation and in front of it for interviews.

American Masters could do a documentary on Milli Vanilli and I'd watch. Do one on the Band and nothing could pull me away from the set.


Entered at Tue May 11 02:50:19 CEST 2010 from c-71-62-141-173.hsd1.va.comcast.net (71.62.141.173)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Gordon Lightfoot Tribute Disc

My driving music in the Washington, DC area today was a 2003 Canadian release from the Borealis Records label titled "Beautiful: A Tribute to Gordon Lightfoot." Many of the artists on the collection are Canadian or ones with ties to Canada. One of my favorite tracks is one by Jesse Winchester which sounds like it could have been an outtake from his first LP. I'm not sure I like his arrangement of "Sundown" as well as the original, but Mr. Winchester manages to put his own spin on the song. Bruce Cockburn, Ron Sexsmith, Connie Kaldor, Harry Manx and Murray McCaughlin are among the other standout performances on this fine tribute to the many fine songs of Mr. Lightfoot, one of Canada's finest.


Entered at Mon May 10 22:52:19 CEST 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

About six months ago they announced that my town is sitting on oil. Poole already has the largest onshore well in Western Europe, and it's well hidden on an island in the harbour. They were digging test wells around Poole and Bournemouth 30 years ago, but now they know they can extract it economically. They plan to put drilling rigs 4 or 5 miles offshore and bore diagonally into the onland oil.

As a major tourist area, relying on our beaches, wildlife and natural beauty … we're all absolutely thrilled. Guess who's going to operate it all? BP. Well, that'll be alright then. (To be fair though, they neither owned nor operated the rig in the gulf, they sub-contracted that).


Entered at Mon May 10 22:12:09 CEST 2010 from pool-74-108-31-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Steve

You're looking at it the wrong way. It is BP's contribution to providing fuel to the less fortunate. Kind of like Hugo Chsvez. Its there for the taking as it washes ashore.


Entered at Mon May 10 21:41:43 CEST 2010 from 21cust127.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.127)

Posted by:

Steve

Joan, I was wondering the other day about all that oil spilling into the Gulf when Beyond Petroleum said it had cost them $300,000,000 so far whether they include the cost of the millions of barrels that have been lost into the ocean. At about 80 dollars a barrel does it get factored into any equation anywhere? Is anyone keeping track and charging BP for the oil as it comes out of the well, or did Georgie W completely eliminate the fee per barrel and it's free for the drilling?.


Entered at Mon May 10 19:43:09 CEST 2010 from pool-74-108-31-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Oil Drilling

Nothing can go wrong, nothing can go wrong, nothing can go, nothing can, nothing can.....


Entered at Mon May 10 19:42:16 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: A Ray Floydian Slip

The usually staid world of golf commentary got a rare dose of excitement over the weekend when a young female reporter for the Golf Channel had a X-rated slip of the tongue. With regards to the neck injury that caused Tiger Woods to withdraw from a tournament, she substituted the letter "c" for a "s" in describing his bulging disk.


Entered at Mon May 10 17:52:35 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Norm / Steve: I feel I must rush in to save my friend Peter V before you two start lashing out. He DID not mean to suggest that Vancouver Island and Montreal were made livable by your respective departures from those places.


Entered at Mon May 10 17:48:52 CEST 2010 from 21cust63.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.63)

Posted by:

Steve

Peter, thank god that link is 3000 miles long.


Entered at Mon May 10 17:47:02 CEST 2010 from 21cust63.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.63)

Posted by:

Steve

After being subjected to the dissing of rock and roll in the 60's by the older generation I'm very leery when it comes to mass condemnation of any new form music takes.

Having said that I'm quite willing to have all "singing by monks", high energy church choirs, Catholic clerics, Sea Lion Dion and the singing of any national anthem banned from the planet.


Entered at Mon May 10 17:39:22 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: golf balls useful after all?

We interrupt this musical program for a public service announcement. The link above will take you to today's front-page news, "Plan B to plug Gulf oil leak: the junk shot - Uses Golf Balls". Let us hope they work.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just a link between Norm and Steve. People had to write in to The Sunday Times with "the most desirable places on Earth" to live yesterday. Out of the eight, Canada got two, Vancouver Island and Montreal. Mind you, among the eight was Bolivia because it's incredibly cheap, but I think that was the only silly one. The rest were Tuscany sort of thing.


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Posted by:

Steve

The war was over and the spirit was broken, the hills were smoking as the men withdrew, we stood on the cliffs and watched the ships slowly sinking to their rendez-vous.

They signed a treaty and our homes were taken, love ones forsaken they didn't give a damn

try'n to raise a family, end up the enemy, over what went down on the Plains Of Abraham.

While the song is chronologically weak it does kick off on the Pains of Abraham and everything that follows is supposed to be a consequence of this. Bill, remember it's the song, Acadian Driftwood, Norm cited, not the actual history of the expulsion. I was responding to Norm's assertion that Montreal was a link to Acadian Driftwood. If there is a Quebec link to the song it's surely, Quebec City. I can say no more.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: another genre-alisation

David P: I certainly won't disagree with your general point re Little Richard's work. I do, however, say that Jump Blues is one of the most endlessly interesting and important genres of popular music, sucking in jazz, swing, gospel and blues (et al?) and coughing up rock and roll, R&B, et al.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Little Richard

Bill M: You're correct, however, Little Richard's earlier jump blues recordings for RCA and Peacock were more imitative in nature and not successful. What I should have noted is that it was with those early Specialty recordings with Bumps Blackwell where he made his mark as an original force in rock & roll. A similar parallel can be drawn with the career of Ray Charles, whose first recordings were imitative of the restrained style of Nat King Cole. After signing with Atlantic, he began to develop his own distinctive style, combining the exuberance of blues & gospel -- the unholy alliance of the Saturday night and Sunday morning experience. Little Richard drew upon those same influences and, at one point, abandoned the evil of Saturday nights for the ministry.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Simon/Peter: When it comes to Irish music, and also oompah music, the problem is one of semantics, it seems to me. Neither is really a 'genre', but merely a single decent-to-excellent song (depending on the amount of alcohol consumed by the listener beforehand) played endlessly with the slightest of variations. My suggestion is that if you change records or leave the room after the first three minutes you'll have fond memories of that three minutes. Rap I wouldn't dismiss entirely, as there's a decent best-of 45 in there somewhere. Opera is a total unredeemable wasteland, I agree.

David P: I don't believe that Little Richard's Specialty stuff were his first recordings. I think it was Rhino who issued a series of impressive CDs devoted to the various subgenres of the blues. One of them, with a title along the lines of "More Jump Blues", is one of the most enjoyable compilations I've ever encountered, and it includes an excellent Little Richard track recorded with the Johnny Otis band - with vibes! - earlier in the '50s.

Steve: Quebec City the centre of "Acadian Driftwood"?

NB: Speaking of all generalisations being wrong, back when I was philosophical I used to say that there are no absolutes. After further consideration, I changed my line to there being just one absolute - that there is just one absolute. A similar conundrum is what to make of Steve's awareness of Zombie Awareness Month. Who's the zombie, the ones who are aware or the ones who aren't (or weren't until Steve's post)?


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: eye-opener

something to start your day . . . a brilliant advertisement with thematic allusions to basement (or should I say Big Pink)-era Dylan . . . one of a series, all with stunning, sometimes perplexing, visual iconography . . . .


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Fly Like an Eagle

We are away this morning on the ferries down to the big smoke.......Eagles concert tonight @ General Motors Place. Our biggest venue in Vancouver for entertainment.

Take my little lady....stay @ the "Sands By The Sea" looking out over English Bay.....like a couple of "well-to-do" gawd damn Yankee tourists.

Lars: I was weeding gardens most the day yes-a-day too.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I don't mind watching the major golf tournaments. But I played a lot of golf when I was younger and lettered in it when I was in High School. These days I play a handful of times in a year and lost my good scoring but still enjoy it. It may be that one needs to have played a bit to appreciate the nuances of the game to get the most out of it. See, for me, car racing is listening to paint dry loudly.


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Posted by:

Steve

What is a small bed used to rest your butt, Alex.


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Posted by:

Peter V

You see what I said about golfers? Incredibly concerned with what other people are wearing. Are the rules on appropriate socks to follow?


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Posted by:

Deb

What is a narrow neckband with wide pointed wings, traditionally made of pale grey patterned silk, Alex?


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Posted by:

bob w.

Ascot?


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Posted by:

N.B.? or N.B.? (N.o B.lues or N.o B.umbles ?)

Subject: SB (Simon)

Thanks for that link Simon. Sonny was certainly The Boy, while Spann was truly The Man ! Both incomparable blues musicians, and each blessed with great vocal chops to boot! Two of my faves for sure. NB


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Posted by:

Peter V

I always appreciate NB's sense of humour. But then I look at those posting links to "all golf does for charity" and my goodness, Ned Flanders appears again. Amazing.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Don't Start Me To Talking

Simon, I've been having a Sonny Boy Williamson fortnight with "Down & Out Blues" on replay. I'm not even sure what started it. I bought the British releasel LP in 1964. I switched a few days ago to Vintage Violence / Paris 1919 in honour of seeing John Cale next weekend.


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Posted by:

Steve

Joan, I heard a better expression the other day to describe watching golf on TV. The guy was referring to something besides golf but it fits; Watching golf on TV is as exciting as listening to paint dry.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Being Overlooked & Underfed

Being overlooked by Steve......isn't that a course for celebration?? I am so Neanderthal.......I at least know who my father is.......which is more than the stoned farmer could say.

Nuetered Buoy, I can't for the life of me figure out why you will waste so much time and effort trying to explain golf to a stoned farmer. That's sort of like trying to teach a chimp to fly a Stealth......I'dn it?

Peter, I have seen the preview of Invictus, and look forward to seeing it. I think I missed it a while back at the old Patricia here in PR. The Pat is the oldest "still operating" Theatre in BC. It's where you see all the Neanderthals coming in dragging their girls friends behind them by the hair.......y'know.


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Posted by:

Joan

Oh yeah, I forgot. Happy Mother's Day to all.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Golf

I've just never been able to get "into" golf I totally see and appreciate the game and those who really enjoy it. My Dad was a golfer.

TV is not the medium to show golf. It is about as interesting to watch someone play, as watching the grass grow. I like more"action" in the sports I like, i.e. football. Even Baseball, which I like, sometimes gets into the grass growing category watching it.

Wasn't there a book out a while ago, entitled "Golf: A Good Walk In The Woods Spoiled"? Or something to that effect


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Posted by:

Steve

Necessary golf knowledge; Hit ball into hole. Player who does this with the fewest number of whacks, through skill or cheating, wins. What else does one really need to know, NB?

I'm so happy to have found a soft spot to exploit with this unknowledgeable gouging.

The only other question I have about golf( still waiting for the Tiger steroids answer)is why don't they chuck out divits and replace it with a new golffy type word. Maybe you could suggest, dividents, the next time your down at the club. I'm willing to share credit with you if it catches on. I'd be honored to go down in the anals of golf with you.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Subject: Sonny Boy Williamson

Dismissing an entire genre ... hard to do but for me it would have to be Irish jigs and reels, I honestly don't know how people can listen to it. I'm told the weedly deedly weedly diddly dee is not the same as the deedly weedly deedly diddly doo. I did watch a few minutes of a documentary on it and one guitarist said that everything was in G so he didn't have to change chords all night. Mind numbing.

Charlie, the latest 'boutique' Zappa releases look very interesting. I know it's not to everyones tastes but I've been rediscovering some of that music lately. Managed to get tickets for Zappa Plays Zappa in Liverpool in the summer.

Northern Boy, the link is for you. Sonny Boy Williamson - an obvious Band connection - doing 'Nine Below Zero'. (If anybody knows if this clip is from an officially available dvd please let me know as I'd buy it.) As Richard Manuel said possibly the finest blues harmonica player. Great stuff.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Foreknowledge

Oh, don't get me wrong Peter. I'm all for satirizing the living excrement out of Golf, and everything else for that matter. Just not a fan of people dismissing it based on no actual knowledge of the game. (It doesn't translate to a tv screen, what with the drives now being more than 3 times the length of an American Football field).

Yes obviously the Scots invented golf (the birthplace being St. Andrews). I said the Brits invented golf as I assumed the Scots were under English rule at the time, but maybe not. All history is boring so I just ignore it in the hope that it will go away. Upon further consideration, I was wrong about dismissing entire musical genres though; let's definitely ditch Rap and and all those other crappy ones you just mentioned. A guy can really take this whole tolerance thing too far if he's not careful, you know. Have a good one. NB


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Posted by:

Charlie Y.

Subject: Mother's Day

Happy Mother's Day to all those to whom that applies.

It was on Mother's Day in 1965 that Frank Zappa formed the orginal Mothers (which his record label made him call the Mothers of Invention). His widow just released a collection called "Greasy Love Songs" which includes the original vinyl stereo mix of the "Cruising with Ruben and the Jets" LP on CD for the first time, complete with great additional tracks. It's wonderful.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Gofers

Norm, that story is told extremely well in the recent film “Invictus” with Morgan Freeman as Nelson Mandela. It ws in the cinemas a couple of months back, so I’d guess DVD is imminent – or may already be out in Canada.

NB, it was the Scots who invented golf. Don’t blame we innocent English (or the Welsh or Irish). I always thought golf on TV was the Scottish revenge for the Battle of Culloden. We once did a comedy video (about golf) on a golf course, and for a moment I could see the appeal. It was at the Isle of Purbeck golf club, once owned by children’s author Enid Blyton. It’s on a sloping Dorset site with wonderful views across Poole Harbour and the bay to the Isle of Wight, and we started about 6 a.m. on a beautiful July morning. During the inevitable hanging about, one of the actors showed me how you hit the ball with the stick or raquet or whatever you call it. It was great until about 8 a.m. and then the place was full of golfers, which completely ruined it. It wasn’t the game itself, though personally I can’t see why you can’t just pick up that little white ball and carry it to the hole. It was the conversation.

I go to a regular authors meeting which is unfortunately held at a golf club, and the rules posted are ludicrous and horrendous. If you have strong feelings about the colour of other people’s socks, it’s OK. Just keep it to yourself. But establishing a list of sock rules, then posting a long f***ing paragraph about it on a notice board is insanity and anyone doing so is opening themselves to ridicule. Then add the shoes, type of trousers, type of shirts etc and you really see that these people are seriously short of things to occupy their brains. I think that’s why they play golf.

Dismissing an entire musical genre? I’ll have to think hard there. I could probably eradicate opera, and German Oompah bands. Possibly thrash metal too.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Sorry I Overlooked You, Norm

Sorry, your most recent post reminded me of the fact we have a wonderful example of Neanderthal genetics at work right here in the GB. When I think of you in BC, BC seems more of a reference to time rather than place.

NB, do you think, Tiger, should have explained away his penchant for skirt chasing and cursing when playing poorly as side effects of his steroid use? What would be the pros or cons of this tactic? I look to you for what works with the golf crowd.


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Posted by:

NB

Web: My link

Subject: Not All Hockey Players Are Neanderthals (But All Generalizations Are Indeed False)

Illka: There's actually only one team that can truly be called Neanderthals. Careful with the sweeping sports generalizations. NB


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Posted by:

NB (Not Bothered)

Web: My link

Subject: Peter The Deleter/Bumbles and The Blues

I, likewise, respect your right to be not altogether right. And I hope you're equally magnamimous and can forgive the Brits for inventing the game in the first place. Unfortunately, no one can come even remotely close to gleaning what golf is, or isn't, from a television set. No one should dismiss the game who has not attended a professional event, like say The Open (British). What most people do, or see others do on a golf course, bears little resemblance to the actual game. I'm an avid golfer but I too would rather play tiddly-winks, or even spend the entire day removing unsightly nasal hair, than spend any time "golfing" the way the average so-called golfer does, which is merely "hacking".

So you're completely right in a limited sense, Peter. But dismissing an entire sport is tantamount to dismissing an entire musical genre, like Bumbles dismissing the Blues as being "a drag". Whereas, and I've said this before, even I know it was The Buckinghams who were "Kind Of A Drag", not the entire blues genre. Mind you even Bumbles wasn't completely wrong because the sub-genre of blues known as "Walkin' Blues" IS pedestrian (by definition), but that in no way justified him in dismissing the ENTIRE blues genre. Have a nice Mom's Day, PV, and I hope you enjoy my "pedestrian blues" link. NB


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: Been Told A Long Time Ago

I finally acquired a copy of one of the gospels of Rock and Roll, HERE'S LITTLE RICHARD (Specialty Records 1957 in High Fidelity mono), which was affordable in good condition. This debut compilation of Richard Penniman's first recordings, produced by Bumps Blackwell, influenced countless artists who followed, including The Band. In addition to including "Slippin' and Slidin'" in their stage repertoire, Levon has noted the influence of drummer Earl Palmer and Robbie has cited tenor saxman Lee Allen in his approach to lead guitar. Both of those great musicians anchored Little Richard's band on these New Orleans recordings. This album is an incendiary testament of rock, from the opening cut to the last. Side one: TUTTI FRUTTI, TRUE FINE MAMA, CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WANNA LEAVE, READT TEDDY, BABY, SLIPPIN' AND SLIDIN'. Side two: LONG TALL SALLY, MISS ANN, OH WHY?, RIP IT UP, JENNY JENNY, SHE'S GOT IT.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"How To BECOME Clairvoyant" by Robbie Robertson.


Entered at Sun May 9 16:41:04 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400525.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.26.77)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

True Blood’s Season 2 Soundtrack tracklist revealed By ZZ on May 8th, 2010

"How To Be Clairvoyant"....Robbie Robertson


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: World Cup Rugby - 1995

Last night on one of our local sport channels, a documentary was shown of this rugby match, and the events surrounding it. The prison room of Nelson Mandela was shown, where he spent all those years.

It was "something" to watch, and listen to the interviews of those players and their feelings, (the white & black). Nelson Mandela walked on the field wearing the South African "Spring bok" rugby jersey which was that of his (longtime enemy). He proved what it really means to forgive, when someone takes away most of your life. An amazing man the way he was able to draw those people together. If only someone was able to exibit that sort of power in the Islamic countries.

Quite exciting to watch South Africa finally defeat New Zealand in extra time. How that brought the people of South Africa together, (if even for a short time.)

My doctors (man & wife) are both from South Africa. He is a big young fellow same age as my youngest son, (and a rugby player.) However he tells me he and his wife left and came here, because things are not very good down there.

It is sad, in Ireland, Quebec, the southern USA, South Africa, many of these people will never change their feelings no matter what. But........for a moment watching the tear filled feelings of those people felt good, when they came together.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

May is Asian Heritage Month

For my late Ma.....Her favourite musician in The Last Waltz singing her favourite all time song.

NB...There's also PAIRy Sound and PEARy Sound....No matter.....Bobby Orr was POEtry in motion. I really miss him.

MAMA...Spice Girls
Dear Mama...2Pac

Peace with "Inches" Speech (Paul Kelly) Al Pacino, with backing music performed by Paul Kelly with Robbie Robertson.
Norbert....I still remember your late Ma...."You have to learn Dutch."..... :-D


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Posted by:

Steve

Location: Just Two More Really Important Thingies

The 50th anniversary of the pill on Mother's Day. Irony or what?

I'd be remiss if I didn't make sure that everyone is aware that May is, Zombie Awareness Month.


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Posted by:

Steve

Man from Nordic Countries, on the day when The Max Plank Institute reveals that Homo Sapiens still carry Neanderthal genetic material, I was wondering why you tried to single out hockey players from the rest of the herd.

If you wanted to point the finger at a group that appears to have a rather large residual store of Neanderthal brain material how about the oil companies and the politicians who covet the short term revenues they produce.

Last week when the city of , Montreal, added a 1.3 cent a liter( 5 cents a gallon) gas tax to the price to help fund mass transit in the city I saw a woman on TV complaining about being GOUGED as she was filling her 8,000 lb SUV. Yes, Neanderthals do drive amongst us.

As, Beyond Petroleum, keeps fumbling around in the Gulf of Mexico and people on the southern American coast line prepare for disaster, the president of, Chevron Canada, was on the news last night hyping the well his company is drilling off Newfoundland as a Canadian record for deep wells. he appeared to be trying to convince us this is something that should engender national pride. Makes you wonder what decade this guy thinks it is.

This well will be 3000 feet deeper than the one ruining the Gulf. Chevron, unlike, Beyond Petroleum, has foolproof safety mechanisms in place. If, foolproof, meant no fools involved, that would be a reason to feel reassured.

If, whoever wrote the bible had substituted, oil, in place of an apple it might have made the book a worthwhile read.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Getting older & grab that extra inch to stay in the light

Thanks for the Boxer follow up folks.

“When you get old, in life, things get taken from you. I mean, that's a part of life. But, you only learn that when you start losing stuff….”

Like most of you I’m getting older too. I plan to grow old with grace, spare my soul from bitterness and sarcasm. Look at the bright side. I was lucky a few weeks back, when I ordered my new third teeth on this very WWW, I was offered a hearing device and extra thick glasses for half the normal price if I ordered a second (Sunday) pair of teeth that same day …. I didn’t hesitate. Still I smile ever day putting on the ensemble during my daily Al Pacino Inspiration Speech with the amp on 10 ready to socialize, ready to grab that extra inch, ready for any mother in law.


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Posted by:

Mike & Kim HAyward

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: misc

Happy Mothers Day to all of you mothers out there.

I always thought "The Boxer" was one of Paul Simon's "heavier" songs. I used to think it dealt with the part of us that is left behind when we forsake an ideal. I think we called it "copping out" but its been so long I can't remember the early '70s parlance too well. I wonder which Band song had the most symbollism and achieved highest "heaviness." Perhaps "Tears of Rage" or "Chest Fever." Its kind of subjective. I always liked to think that "Chest Fever" referred to the feeling a vocalist gets when he's in the middle of a song...that urge to bring out all you can, as if you owed it to the music.

Of all of The Band members I never get to see anymore, I guess I miss Rick the most. I never knew him, but I enjoyed watching him perform at an out-of-the-way venue on a snowy night. He was always around.

I have a lot of weeding to do. That's probably why I'm rambling here.


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Posted by:

Peter V

BTW, the Sunday Times followed the tenuous thread here on Scandinavian languages by pointing out what "Klegg" means in Norwegian. Jan or Ilkka can enlighten the rest of you.

For the A.A. Gill fans here, check the Sunday Times website to find out what he had to say on the day after the election with the leaders addresses to the TV cameras,


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Boxer

Sorry, Norbert. I lost your question yesterday among the golf as GB stands for Golf Book now, I see. Well, I knew it was one inordinately long time so I cheated and Googled, and now I also know how long it took. And that Fred Carter Jnr. is the Band link. When we did theatre shows for EFL students, our backing band always did The Boxer as they had a singer who could have earned a living imitating Garfunkel. The drummer discovered that if you bring your fist down on a Watkins Copycat echo unit in precisely the right place, it makes a deep "boing" just like the Moog in the original. I bet Paul Simon didn't know that.

I have to say, golf is only marginally more exciting than tiddleywinks and much less exciting that Snakes & Ladders, but I respect people's right to talk about it.

We could be doing the British election, but the papers are full of so much eloquent and erudite comment that it's best to refer to them. I've seen most politicians disliked in my life, and I've disliked all of them. I've only seen two where people expressed "hatred" rather than loathing. One was Thatcher, one is Brown given his Mugabe-like clinging to power. Speaking to many people here in the south of disenfranchised-England in the last three days, the other words"collocated with Brown are 'despise' and 'loathe'. 'Dislike' is far too mild.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: NB: klötekläpper

NB, Swedish for "generalizations" is "klötekläpper", know you're welcome.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: NB Sports Desk

You're right Steve. I had forgotten already that the Habs had just beaten the Caps, reknowned for their hasty playoff exits in recent years. So this means Le Bleu, Blanc et Rouge have lost only 13 of their last 19 playoff games, give or take. I honestly do hope that with this being the 100th anniversary of the franchise that the Montreal mojo finds an extra gear that mysteriously propels them past Pittsburgh and beyond. But am I stupid for not picking them to do so ? Of course not; I'm stupid for a whole bunch of other reasons that have nothing to do with any of this.

I don't know why you consider my Lafleur memeorabilia ancient. It's actually pretty contemporary compared to my Maurice Richard autographed Grecian Formula and my Dickie Moore nasal hair tweezers. You just can't beat those Hab-endorsed personal grooming products, can you ? I never did spring for the Stepane Richer bidet though, did you ?

Anyway, my serious take on Tiagra Woods ? He's played a piddly 3 tourneys in the last 7 months. Even at that he only took himself out of contention in The Masters on the final day. Don't worry about Tiger. The filandering will in no way hurt his golf game long- term. Unless he's been taking PEDs as rumoured and gets busted on that, he'll return to form and break Nicklaus's record of 18 majors, the only thing in golf that matters to him. On the other hand, as far as I can see the taking of PEZ should in NO WAY harm his career.

It's not getting said at all but I've noticed Tiger used to wear really tight shirts to intimidate players with his muscles but now, with steroid rumors swirling, it seems like he's gone to loose fitting ones with longer sleeves to hide the muscles. Personally, I don't think Tiger's taken steroids, but one only has to look to baseball to know we can all get suckered on that one.

As for Weir, he's roughly 40 now, though he looks 22. He's got only one win in the last 5 yrs and due to his small stature, I don't see him being a force in the game again. It's too much of a bomber's game now and at best he's only sneaky long. Even Tiger will never be the longest in the game again. Top ten at best. Look to Graham DeLaet to replace Weir as Canada's next golfer. Also small, but he's averaging 4th in distance on the tour ahead of both Mickelson and Tiger. Narrowly missed getting into a playoff already in this his first full year on the tour. Hope this hasn't been too factual. NB


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Pretty good except for Robbie drawing.....

The Zambonis - "I wanna drive the zamboni"

NB....And to think my friend from Ajax, rented a cottage in PArry Sound last summer too! ;-D


Entered at Sat May 8 23:07:45 CEST 2010 from 21cust185.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.185)

Posted by:

Steve

NB, I stand reminded of your willingness to fricassee the facts. Its blind mowing. I'm only guessing that, Montreal, is the team you were referring to when you said they've lost 10 of their last 12 games. They've won 6 of their last 11 and to winnow it down a little further, 5 of their last 7. But maybe you were talking about Pittsburgh, and knowing you , probably the Pirates. By the by, you don't need to stand when I'm correcting you.

So, give me your take on Tiger. For Christ sakes he's starting to wallow in the pack with the likes of Mike Weir. Good thing he made his name and all that money before he got caught playing those 18 extra holes.


Entered at Sat May 8 21:01:28 CEST 2010 from s0106000a956fbfac.cq.shawcable.net (70.78.227.122)

Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Stanley Cup Champignons

FYI: I'll have you know I picked Pittsburgh to win the last game (which Montreal won, right ?) so where's the logic of me now picking Montreal to win tonight's game ? That would only cause Pittsburgh to win the game and then probably take the whole series. What kind of Hab fan do you take me for? Geez Steve, sometimes I find it almost impossible to follow your convoluted logic.

Lime Cordially Yours,

NB.

PS So NOT picking to win tonight's game the team that's lost 10 of its last 12 playoff games constitutes "ignoring the facts". I'd have thought that picking them to still win despite this fact would've have constituted "ignoring the facts", but I stand corrected.


Entered at Sat May 8 20:30:07 CEST 2010 from blk-222-220-109.eastlink.ca (24.222.220.109)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: ENE
Web: My link

Subject: I'm Your Teenage Prayer

Dylan & the Band sure were having fun recording this Basement Tapes song. 'Royal Canal' is another from these sessions.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Politics & Geography....OOooouuuu!!!!

Something you can really sink your teeth into now. In this internet age, it's "really" necessary to go every where to understand bush league farmers. Even Donald Duck makes more sense when he's quacking than this quacking you continually do.

Wha-a-samatta won't Marge talk to you enough?? Are you lonely? Doesn't your I pod work????? Is that what's troubling you Bunky?


Entered at Sat May 8 19:13:30 CEST 2010 from 21cust136.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.136)

Posted by:

Steve

Norm, a little geography and politics of separation 101 lesson. I'm guessing you've never been east of the BC\Alberta border so I'll go slowly. The home of both separation and the almost historically based, Acadian Driftwood , is QUEBEC CITY!

Montreal is far too worldly to concern its self with something so provincial as separation.

As far as Richard's comment, he was probably right.

NB, now that you've committed yourself on the winner of this series we'll just have to wait and see if your disdain for facts factored into your obviously poorly thought out( I know, no thinking was involved) premature prognostication. Counting the Canadiens out is ALWAYS premature.

If you watch the Canadiens game tonight, when Pittsburgh pulls their goalie to try and tie the game have BARK's Wed Wed Wobin cued up. Hit the mute button on the TV and welease the wed, wed Wobin.

I can't listen to, Bob Cole, ruin a good game so I play music instead. At the end of the last game when Pit pulled their goalie Wed Wed Wobin came on and pretty soon I noticed how the song made a perfect sound track for frantic hockey action.

It was as well matched to the action as the sound track to a Keystone Cops silent movie is.

It may also work for power plays, I'm going to try it tonight.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Neanderthal & Vikings

Northern Buoy, do you hear this old Scandahoovian! Ilkka, your people from that frozen north used to run around in big sail boats chopping everybody up with gawd damn big swords the average man couldn't even lift. Now what are you saying about hockey players.

Just because a hockey stick in the hands of Rocket Richard was a deadly weapon to break over peoples backs. Punch out referees & linesman. Hockey players now-a-day are timid by comparison.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Bonk & The Boxer question

Bonk, belated thanks for the ‘Time” comment the other day, hope all is well with your daughter .

The wood fire burns, just got a bottle of red wine from the cellar already and now I’m waiting for my lovely woman to come home and start Saturday’s night.

Anyway till that time a little trivia quiz question: How long did it take Simon and Garfunkel to record The Boxer? Don’t Google that just give a wild guess.

Link: Willie Nelson & Bob Dylan - Pancho and Lefty


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Ilkka aka "Moderator of the Former Nordic Countries"

How do you say "All generalizations are false" in Scandinavian ? Thanks. NB


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Why, Yes I Have

watched a game in this millenium. Did you think those exploding modern carbon hockey sticks I've been discussing were around in the previous millenium ? Gee, stomping all over Sid's sweater. This is worse than I realized. Do you think the Montreal fans will boo the American anthem before the series is over? If they don't respect what Crosby did for Canada in the Olympics, why respect the city and nation he plays for professionally ? Hey, I'm just throwin' it out there. Couldn't possibly know anything about hockey, bein' a golfer and all. NB

That's PArry Sound, BEG, but otherwise you're batting a thousand.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Ice hockey

Hockey players are Neanderthalians.


Entered at Sat May 8 16:22:18 CEST 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Acadian Driftwood

The subject of hockey fans in Montreal goes back as far as Acadian Driftwood.

The "Richard Riot" at the Montreal forum is one of the biggest examples of Montreal Fans. The example that got Rocket Richard in the most trouble was his words in a news paper column, "They treat me this way just because I'm French Canadian" is the proof of the way it has always been.

It's not just about hockey in that town. Hockey is their "vehicle" to maintain the fight. So the farmer doesn't realize what it's all about, or just wants to avoid it and keep it hidden. So just keep on like you usually do. Picking out the parts of things you want to try and prove you're right all the time, and avoid the rest. That's your style, but you never fool anyone.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

There's everybody else......and then there was Bobby Orr from Perry Sound, Ontario.
When I think of all the hockey players I watched on TV or at Maple Leaf Gardens.....The only other player who comes close for me.....would be Michelle Lemieux.


Entered at Sat May 8 13:28:57 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400657.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.26.209)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bill Barilko disappeared that summer,
he was on a fishing trip.

The last goal he ever scored
won the Leafs the cup

They didn't win another until 1962,
the year he was discovered.

I stole this from a hockey card,
I kept tucked up under
my fifty mission cap,
I worked it in'
I worked it in
to look like that
It's my fifty mission cap
his fifty mission cap


Entered at Sat May 8 12:03:35 CEST 2010 from 21cust43.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.43)

Posted by:

Steve

Location: The Home Of The World's Greatest Hockey Fans
Web: My link

For Rinky Dink fans, both North and West.


Entered at Fri May 7 23:45:56 CEST 2010 from vance014.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.53)

Posted by:

NB

Subject: You're Right Norm

There's something kind of infantile about someone throwing percentiles around all the time.

Let me personally demonstrate this point. 83% of the players on the PGA tour think Obama's doing a crap job. The same % think health care reform is a bad idea. Only 24% of PGA players think Tiagra Woods has taken PEDs. Whereas only 1% of all GBers thinks PEDs are small tablet-shaped candies that come in plastic dispensers with cool animal heads like Goofy, or Pluto or a Smurf on top. (Those are PEZ Steve ! Not PEDs !) NB


Entered at Fri May 7 23:43:11 CEST 2010 from 21cust192.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.192)

Posted by:

Steve

Pricky, pricky, pricky, NB. Of course the point being that in the bad old days ( before the lock out season) they didn't call half of what they saw that the rulebook classified as a penalty. Now putting a hand or arm on a guy is ALWAYS called a penalty. Taking the football blocking and tackling out of hockey has greatly improved the game.

By the by, I never boo anyone. I don't even really cheer, though I do give a fist pump sometimes when someone makes an extraordinary effort and scores but that's about it.

The stick statement was that it becomes more obvious, MEANING, PEOPLE TAKE NOTE OF IT MORE THAN IN THE REGULAR SEASON BECAUSE THE CONSEQUENCES ARE MORE IMPORTANT. Now, don't make me capitalize at you again.

OK, you have all those great ancient hockey memories and memorabilia but have you watched a game in this millennium?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: 80% of 80% 0f- - - - - -

"It missed me by THAT MUCH!!" You must have noticed Nature Buoy.....Gawd Damn....I like that one, because you're always out there golfing with your colleague, Tiagra, (that's pretty bad by the way C.C.) Anyway you must have noticed how old Maxwell Smart the farmer has "always" got his statistics & %ages that he dreams up down Pat! Not you Pat!

There has been much said, by that other percentage over many years, by even many players from Montreal, as to the behaviour of those fans. One I recall very well, and what he had to say after retirement. A guy from right out here. John Fergusen.

One thing I didn't mention, when talking about the Habs old timers visit to Langley when I met some of them. I don't recall how old he was, this was '85 or 86'. Henry Richard, with white hair, I guess in his 50"s about then. When you have a chance in a small arena like that to stand right near him at ice level, and watch that man power skate even at that age was about the most impressive I ever remember being close to. I have always been able to skate a pretty fair lick, but that guy could motor, and then of course I guess the "Road Runner" who I never got close to was even faster?


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Posted by:

NB

Ditto for slashing.


Entered at Fri May 7 21:40:25 CEST 2010 from vance014.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.53)

Posted by:

NB

Subject: Stevon Drugs ?

Of your own free will, did you actually type just now that "the refs nowadays call EVERYTHING in the clutching and grabbing department", or were FLQ terrorists pointing a gun to your head at the time or something ? I doubt they even see half of it, which makes calling ALL of it something of a mathematical improbability. See why I consider you the GB's King of Inadvertent Comedy, Steve ? NB


Entered at Fri May 7 21:13:00 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: when Kris met Levon ...

David P: From some accounts they may have done more than cross paths. In a bit of a role reversal, in this case Kris claims that Levon whispered the title in his ear, while Levon denies any such thing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.


Entered at Fri May 7 21:09:53 CEST 2010 from vance014.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.53)

Posted by:

NB

Subject: Spontaneous Hockey Stick Explosions

Steve, I like your explanation that more sticks break in the playoffs than in the regular season because of the higher stakes, the sticks of course being sentient beings (not inanimate objects) that sense the enormity of playoff pressure and are so incapable of handling it that they simply explode, usually at the most inopportune moments.

Having both the home and away official Hab jerseys in my closet, plus Lafleur's last game in Montreal as a Hab on VHS, plus a photo of Guy's last game at The Pacific Coliseum that I was able to take at ice level during the pre-game, plus the Habs New Year's match against Central Red Army on VHS - you can't bother me by knocking the Canucks. I root for the Habs as strongly as the Canucks. Fans can be knowlegable yet boorish, Steve. I wouldn't have booed Crosby for merely touching the puck, as many of my fellow Hab fans did several times last night. NB


Entered at Fri May 7 20:48:28 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: A good walk spoiled by playing the field...

We do know that one prominent professional golfer found a more demanding, cardio-intensive sport to occupy his time away from the course. For the sake of propriety, no jokes about golf accoutrement or flag placement will be mentioned.


Entered at Fri May 7 20:33:43 CEST 2010 from 21cust158.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.158)

Posted by:

Steve

Hey Norm, the percentage of players in the NHL who rank Montreal as the best city to play in is somewhere in the 80% plus range. Ovechkin, said it's his favorite place to play because the fans are knowledgeable and appreciate the good plays of both teams.

Who knows, someday the Rinky Dinks may win something worth bragging about ,til then remember that even though we're a separate "Nation", we're still recognized as Canada's team.


Entered at Fri May 7 20:31:56 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: This Rig's On Fire

I don't believe anyone's mentioned the connection here yet, but Levon worked on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico for a while, after leaving the Dylan tour in '66.

Former Army captain Kris Kristofferson, who trained as a helicopter pilot during his service, also later ferried men & supplies to & from oil rigs in the Gulf, back in the days when he was a struggling songwriter. Several of his songs, including "Help Me Make It Through The Night", were written while he was out on a rig. One wonders if he ever crossed paths with Levon during that time.


Entered at Fri May 7 20:25:30 CEST 2010 from 21cust158.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.158)

Posted by:

Steve

Bill, I think the booing goes back forever in sports, I don't think it's anything new. Bobby Orr was booed as was Espo back in the 70's. It's kind of silly. Boston's, Zdeno Chara, gets booed in Montreal every time he goes near the puck because he's such a physically imposing player at 6 foot 8 and he occasionally bashes one of Montreal players, but Milan Lucic, who is the real tough guy on the team who causes most of the physical damage to Montreal players gets a free pass. Maybe you're right, since it's Chara who has the comic book super bad guy appearance.

Completely untrue, NB, about Crosby. The refs today call everything in the clutching and slashing dept.

Also Crosby is no mild mannered player. He dishes out as good as he gets.

No, he's just a little chippy from time to time and a bit of a cry baby.

I was thinking about those sticks and maybe they just reach their best before, carbon date, and disintegrate.

Hockey players do golf to relax, remember, it's replaced fishing as the summer activity of choice as a relaxing break from the stresses of the hockey season. What do golfers do to relax, play darts? It's the only less physically demanding " sport" than golf and I assume most " athletes" look for something easier than their own sport to do as relaxation. I'm assuming darts is less athletically demanding than golf since you eliminate the walking almost completely. I realize you that in darts you still have to stagger from your bar stool to the line where you toss the dart from but that can hardly be considered a real walking workout like you get when you golf. Tossing darts and hitting a golf ball probably balance out when it comes to cardio demand. So essentially the difference is the length of the walk.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Continuing Saga of Mawreal

Once upon a time.....Although the winningest franchise ever Montreal have the reputation for being the "worst" fans. There are the stories of threatened attacks on referees for calls against Rocket Richard. Fans threatening players leaving the building. Fans threatening their own players when they have been in an extended slump.

That is not to say the same thing deosen't happen in other cities as well, but not with the same absolute hatred and violence shown in Montreal.

Quebec City was no different. I don't remember the year right offhand, I'm sure it's probably on this ineternet tho'. After an attack by a fan most the Vancouver Canuck team ened up in the stands dukin' it out with some real crazy fans.

Quebec has by far the worst reputation for their behaviour where hockey is concerned.


Entered at Fri May 7 19:16:53 CEST 2010 from vance014.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.53)

Posted by:

NB

When Pittsburgh gets past Montreal, it will be interesting to see if the fans in the next rink boo Crosby. If not, then we'll know it was just a Montreal thing. Gretzky and Lemieux (Mario, not Clod) were also perceived as crybabies for responding verbally and physically to the excessive clutching,grabbing, hacking and slashing that they also had to put up with as the premiere players in their eras. Sid would have to increase his stick work mightily to equal all the guff he's on the receiving end of.

The other thing you have backwards is that you don't golf to relax. You relax to golf. Tension destroys the golf swing. Notice how all the great players in the game today are rich and how being free of financial worries allows them to swing more freely at the ball. Coincidence ? Hardly ! NB


Entered at Fri May 7 18:05:24 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: I have no doubt that what said about Crosby is true, but I can't help but thinking that the booing also reflects the wrestlingization of hockey - that it's getting so clownish in some respects that fans are driven to see the players as cartoon figures. Whipper Billy Watson - yeah!!!; Killer Kowalski - boo!!!.


Entered at Fri May 7 17:51:39 CEST 2010 from 21cust121.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.121)

Posted by:

Steve

Yes, it's true, NB, hockey players do play golf in the off season when they desperately need a break from a long, physically grueling, season. I guess your point is that when you really need a rest, golf is a great choice. My guess is that most pro hockey players are not voracious readers so golf beats out the summer book reads that many other people choose as restful, leisurely summer activity.

I can understand why fans boo Crosby he's a bit of a cheap shot artist. He frequently gets in slashes or cross checks after the whistle and usually from behind. he's also a bit of a temperamental crybaby.

In game 2 , I think it was, after the whistle he smashed his stick across the goal post next to Halak in a little tantrum over something. He kept it up verbally, directed at one of the refs all the way to the bench and then continued it on the bench for another minute or so.

Any other player would have received a 10 minute penalty for the stick smashing alone. He gets babied by the officials a little because of his status.

The exploding sticks phenomena goes on all the time, it becomes more obvious in the playoffs when the stakes are higher. Carbon fiber sticks are lighter and maybe allow players to shot the puck a little harder. The draw back is they seem to fall apart for no apparent reason and usually at crucial moments.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Subject: two contributions to the radio list

First, there's "Geronimo's Cadillac", which was bound to come with Geronimo's Radio installed. Likely a cassette deck too.

Second, there was a great local band, Radio Nomad, which mostly did Sudanese and Horn of Africa music. I have their one lovely CD, but can't find anything to link to, unfortunately, aside from follow-on projects by the group's leader, Waleed Abdulhamid.


Entered at Fri May 7 16:14:53 CEST 2010 from s0106000a956fbfac.cq.shawcable.net (70.78.227.122)

Posted by:

NB

Subject: Deferring To A Superior Hockey Mind

Steve: Since you've dismissed me as knowing nothing about hockey solely on the basis of my being a golfer (the #1 off -season choice of sports by NHLers) tell me, what's with the endless exploding hockey sticks in the playoffs ?

Secondly, do you find the booing of Sidney Crosby by the Montreal fans to be as classless as I do ? Didn't he recently score the Olympic gold-medal winning overtime goal against an American team that gave us almost more than we could handle, thus saving our collective Canadian bacon, so to speak ? NB


Entered at Fri May 7 16:03:58 CEST 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: big oil

Slick.


Entered at Fri May 7 15:21:51 CEST 2010 from 21cust93.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.93)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Smoke and Mirrors

Anybody else getting the feeling that the financial system around the planet is starting to unravel? Japan possibly being bankrupt by next year would be a real spanner in the works.

The "fat thumb" theory for the meltdown of the markets yesterday is a curious explanation. My keyboard has an N between the B and the M. That should have made the typo, Nillion.

Chevron is getting ready to drill a well off the coast from Joe J. one kilometer deeper than the well now spewing oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

If there should be a problem, which Chevron says is almost impossible, the drilling ship they need to drill a relief well is in the Gulf Of Mexico. Seems like everything is completely under control and there is no need to be concerned.

BP ( beyond petroleum) has been lobbying the Canadian gov't to relax drilling safety regulations in the Canadian Arctic as global warming opens the area up for oil exploitation. They've been laying out their foolproof plans in the hope of saving the needless spending on back up systems in the unlikely event something should go wrong.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Swedish

Yes Peter, you speak Swedish: "band" is "band".


Entered at Fri May 7 14:07:23 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400573.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.26.125)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

At one time...This was THE song that would wake me up in the morning via of my clock radio, radio.....


Entered at Fri May 7 13:58:04 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400573.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.26.125)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Hockey Song


Entered at Fri May 7 13:52:58 CEST 2010 from 21cust76.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.76)

Posted by:

Steve

Joan, I thought it was pathaphysical science til I just looked at the lyrics. If you look up pataphysical you'll see why I wouldn't confuse you with "that other Joan" and her interest in the pataphysical. Pataphysical actually is a good description of the song.


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Posted by:

Rockstar 87

Location: Detroit
Web: My link

Rockstar" is the fifth U.S. single (although later re-released) by the Canadian rock band Nickelback from their 2005 fifth studio album....what has happend to rock & roll?? we need some good music!


Entered at Fri May 7 04:40:55 CEST 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279612713.dsl.bell.ca (76.69.87.41)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

November 17, 2009
ROBBIE ROBERTSON SPEARHEADS NEW MEDIA CAMPAIGN FOR RIGHT TO PLAY CHARITY, WITH ROOTS AND MASTERCARD

Canadian music legend is the voice of new marketing effort aimed at raising funds for humanitarian organization through sales of the Canada Collection By Roots

Shortly a video of Robertson recording the radio campaign will be posted on the Roots website along with a copy of all four radio spots and the TV commercial.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: It's not easy being so short

JQ- I wasn't as short as you, I had to wait until July 10th. 4 days is very short. I think I stopped saluting officers when I got that short.

I can't believe I misspelled Gene Autry....twice. Sorry.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Various

Dlew and Peter clearly planned that "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" joke before hitting the comedy club circuit (a gaddam impossible way of life).

Speaking of The Beatles, check the videos on the Fab Faux site when you have a chance. The one of their performance of side two of "Abbey Road" is really impressive.

Joe: I loved that Gene Autry clip. Amazing. I have a 78 of his orginal version of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" but clearly need a deeper collection.


Entered at Thu May 6 23:46:07 CEST 2010 from 21cust182.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.182)

Posted by:

Steve

Dlew, When I was listening to Joe's link to Gene Autry ( well the first 42 seconds anyway, I could only let the computer spend half an hour downloading ) I noticed there's a yodeling segment that's identical to some yodeling in the Soggy Bottom Boy's version of, He's In The Jailhouse Now.

Lars, funny you should mention Cambodia. I was listening to a story today about a woman who is part of a team next door in Laos that sweeps farm land for unexploded cluster bombs.

They try to clear land to make areas safe for small subsistence farmers. She joined the group that does this dangerous work after her brother was killed 3 or four years ago while helping their parents till their land. He hit a tennis ball size unexploded bomb.

There are literally millions still in the ground in the country, according to her. Hard to believe all these decades later. An American woman I heard is trying to get the US government to help pay for the clean up.


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Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Hollywood Past Perfect?

Is there a trend in Hollywood back to a more natural look? See link.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Sports interviews

Sports caster interviewing a "gay football player in Norfolk. "Well who was that team you played last Saturday???"

They were called the "Gay Caballeros" "Did you score?"......... "Did I thcore! I ran myself ragged!!"


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Posted by:

Peter V

Ah! Interesting one. I didn't know that "ring" wasn't used in America. Hence the translation. It's common in the UK. Thanks. I can use that fact!


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: flat chests; Rick's "Christmas"

I thought the first "Girl" novel was damn near a perfect read, and the movie was only a little less perfect. It is tremendously refreshing to see imperfect people on screen - US TV is an insult to the intelligence (why would a shoe store clerk have better teeth and a bigger house than I do?). The burning question: how is Hollywood going to deal with the fact that the heroine is abnormally under-developed? I also noticed a couple of the over-translations - but note that in North America, while a telephone may ring, you never use one to ring someone . . . .

Lars: too true about Mr. Danko moving into a song. I've been listening to _Northern Lights - Southern Cross_ quite a bit lately, getting a particular kick out of "Christmas Must Be Tonight." The take starts off kind of square and wooden, then - I think it's in the second verse - Rick suddenly finds the handle, and it just starts to swing, with that hint of a rockabilly hiccup.

Or it's just my imagination. Your mileage may vary.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Zummerzet?

Better get in the zider (cider), Jan.


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Posted by:

clara_haswell@mailoman.com

Subject: salo

hello all


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Stieg Larsson/"Girl with the Dragon Tattoo"

Peter et. al,

“Girl With the Dragon Tattoo” is the first of three movies based on late Swedish leftist-journalist/ anti-nazi activist Stieg Larsson's "Millenium trilogi" -- three socio-political thrillers published a few years ago, just after Larsson died in his early '50s. The books have sold millions and are available world-wide.

Swedish-English: "mördare" = "murderer". "mördad" = "murdered". "kan ringa" = "can ring (you)"/"will call (you)".

And now for something completely different: Six limeys (sorry Pete :-) will stay at our big ol' house for a week in early July. When I told them we may not have all the Soccer World Cup Games (the quarter and semi finals are scheduled for that weekend) available on our cable TV service, they were ready to cancel their plane tickets. Seriously. Even if England's chance of making the final rounds is comparable to that of a reunion of you-know-who.

Anyway, we upgraded our cable service to include British sports, and our Somerset hippies are ready again for the Norwegian summer.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Has anyone seen “Girl With the Dragon Tattoo”? You need to see the Swedish one, as it’s extremely good and I fear a lot will be lost in the coming Hollywood version. Everyone looks real in the Swedish one, which may not be so when Hollywood fills it with perfect people.

But I was smiling at the translation, not speaking a word of Swedish but it sounded just like they were saying “murder” and “murdered” in Swedish, but the author of the English subtitles had to prove they were working by translating it as “killer” and “killed”. There were lots like that. I can’t remember them all, but found myself trying to guess the Swedish a lot. One was someone saying something like I “can ring” but the subtitle was “will call.”


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Steve/ Three inch nails

I assume you meant the "Joan" of "Joan is physical, studied metaphysical sciences at home" and not me. :-)


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: May 6, 1970

Lars - Me too. This day then I had 4 days to go - I was so short I could jump off a dime and break my leg!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Illka, I can't see a lot either, they're almost certainly all bastards, but we only know one is for certain from past record.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: postal voting

Peter, you haven't seen anything yet. They tried voting via internet in Finland. Hundreds of votes just disappeared. They had to take the procedure allover again after several months. - If voting in England I could gladly use the internet and thereby leave the voting for some Chinese hacker, maybe? I can't see any difference between these three gray gentlemen without glasses. Not in tele.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: ________'s Radio

beg: one I think you missed . . . .

joe j: wow!


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Posted by:

cissy45@mail-room.com

Subject: salo

hello all


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Downward Spiral's March of the Little Piggies

And Sir Paul shops at HMV when he needs some Nine Inch Nails.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Gene Autrey: Father of the Blues

Gene Autrey: "Something like this could be bad for the neighborhood."

40 years ago = a hell of a long time ago in the King James bible. 40 years ago, there seemed to be a lot of trouble popping up...Black Power Revolt, Cambodian Invasion, Kent State.

40 years ago at this time I was so "short" that the Marines onboard our ship had to keelhaul me once a week, just to shut me up.

A Band thought: Danko used to really make a song his own. "It Makes No Difference" and "Unfaithful Servant" are two good examples.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Autry

I challenge anyone to listen to Jimmie Rodgers and then Robert Johnson... take out the yodelling and the racial themes, and thoere's not a lot of difference... Autry was pretty close to Rodgers in approach... just made less .... classist....


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

LISTEN TO THE DON LETTS / JOE STRUMMER SHOW NOW


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Posted by:

Steve

If someone had been thinking ahead, that picture on the cover of Levon's book could have been taken by the river and then titled, Hudson on The Hudson By The Hudson.

Dlew, awful image, three inch nails being driven into Joan's head.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

This is Radio Clash

When I saw them perform at the CNE Black Uhuru opened for them. Years later I discovered Joe Strummer was the son of a Diplomat....I missed him in NYC when he was performing solo.....and then he had a heart attack at 50....very sad day for me. Paul Gustave Simonon played more than bass....He had to sometimes play between Mick Jones ("Stay Free") and Strummer to make sure there was some "peace" on stage. All great bands had tensions (creative and personal) and ffffffueds between two band members.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Gene Autry

Incredible. With most people you could say coincidence, but Bob REALLY knows this stuff better than anyone, as shown on Theme Time. And did he ever play it on Theme Time? Autrey could have done a Chiffons on Dylan for this!


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: Cold cold sea
Web: My link

Subject: Father of the Blues

Check the link to Gene Autry's 'Rheumatism Blues' I found on the Expecting Rain site. The inspiration for 'Rainy Day Women' or what? I'd heard the anecdote that Autry was Muddy's favourite singer and I'd dismissed it with a snigger.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: What did paul mccartney want with 3 inch nails?

he was going to use Maxwell's Silver Hammer...

I'll be in town for the week, try the veal...


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Posted by:

Peter V

I had root canal work this morning, and the endodontist cheerfully asked if I’d voted yet. I mumbled that I hadn’t. Fortunately he didn’t go into politics as I was in a situation where I would have had to say “I’ll vote whichever way you did!”

I thought the most excruciating part of the pre-election stuff was on Sunday where they had two cleaners tearfully explaining that they didn’t earn enough money to live on. Brown was there and waded in with a speech about stopping unfairness, getting almost tearful at their plight and vowing to put a stop to such poverty. No one was there to say, ‘Hey, but you were in charge of the economy for the last thirteen years,’ nor more tellingly, to emphasize that they worked for their non-living wage as cleaners at the Treasury, i.e. not only for the government, but Brown’s department under Blair.

They say the futures trading is staying open all night so as to bet on the rise or fall of the pound and make millions. They’ll be betting on a hung parliament. My attitude on a hung Parliament, is why not? Who’s got a rope?

I predict a scandal about postal voting which in East London appears to have reached levels of “problems” that even Mugabe might be ashamed of. One person found 12 people she’d never heard of were registered at her address for postal votes.


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Posted by:

Steve

BEG, I put, Rage Against The Machine's, Maggie's Farm, on Peter's list of covers better than the original. Of course Peter is free to use his big eraser to remove it.

Peter, it's funny to hear Conservative leader, David Cameron trying to put the fear of Brown in the voters mind if they should be careless enough to elect a minority, or hung gov't.

I think it can be a good outcome but it depends on the personalities of the party leaders.

All of the social programs we have that Canadians hold so dear were the result of minority governments.

If you have a tyrant as Prime Minister, as we do now, it doesn't work so well but at least it keeps him on a short leash..


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just listening to Paul McCartney on Radio 4, and he always comes across very well, espcially talking about music and nostalgia … as he said, Penny Lane, Strawberry Fields and Eleanor Rigby all harked back to their childhoods, and he thought Blur did the same. Then he talked about avoiding fame, and how he declined to do autographs and photos when shopping for three inch nails at B&Q (a major DIY superstore. And he adds he always shops for stuff like that, and you're nodding along. Then the thought hits you. What does he want with three inch nails?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Guerilla Radio

We had The Clash....and then there was Rage Against The Machine.
Apparently guitarist Tom Morello will be on Robbie's latest.....who has his degree in Poli Sci from Harvard btw....Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
They also do a great cover of Dylan's "Maggie Farm". Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

You Turn Me On I'm A Radio


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Radio Ethiopia


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Radio Silence, Radio Nowhere, Radio Radio


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: radio ...

I quite enjoy alice cooper's show, which is syndicated down here weeknights. He is full of great stories, and a terrific classic rock soundtrack.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Big Hugh Baby

John D: After leaving the Jordanaires, Mr. Jarrett was in a trio called The Statues, that also included Buzz Cason, a music legend himself. They had a minor hit on Liberty Records around 1960 with a version of "Blue Velvet", several years before Bobby Vinton's hugh hit version. I forget the chronology, but Big Hugh Baby also worked as a DJ at WLAC in Nashville with John R and Hoss Allen.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

Subject: Out Law Country

I found The Essential Waylon Jennings three disc set at a Barnes and Nobles for a real good price. I've been playing the hell out of it for the last couple of weeks. Waylon's boy Shooter produced it and put it togather. Shooter was in town up here and I took in the show. His latest cd is almost Pink Floyd in style and wasn't my cup of tea, but the off spring is a talented kid none the less and you can tell he can sing...

My link is some real good outlaw, it's Neal Young and Waylon doing a Neal song...


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: David P & Hugh Jarrett

David, Hugh Jarrett is for me the most recognizable "face" of the Jordanaires to this day. I have never known why he left the group to be a DJ. He is always the face I remember; from those early days.......especially the Sullivan shows.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Levon in Portland

NB - My story is the same as yours. He's here in August & we're gathering up other fans for a big night.


Entered at Wed May 5 20:16:12 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

One of the popular disc jockeys I grew up listening to in Georgia was Hugh Jarrett. Earlier he'd been the bass singer for the Jordanaires, back when they recorded & toured with Elvis Presley. The late Mr. Jarrett's nom d'air was Big Hugh Baby, as he hosted a daily show on WPLO-AM, as well as record hop appearances around Atlanta. Mr. Jarrett and Mylon LeFevre sang backup on the Atlanta Rhythm Section's song "Jesus Hearted People", a cut that followed their hit "Doraville" on the "Third Annual Pipe Dream" album.


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Posted by:

Bill M

John D: Thanks for that! I had no idea that the Bob I hear in the morning is Bob Jr. Even his voice sounds like his father's, at least in my mind. Changes things completely - causes me to retract my "bullshit" comment and likely to find it a lot easier to listen to him in future.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill M / Macko

Bill M. Bob was never at CHUM-FM. He worked his way up to program director at Q-107. Later he would be PD of CFRB from 1998-2000. He is now part owner of SHORE-FM in Vancouver. They are the presenting station for Levon on August 9th. His son is morning man for CBC 2.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Levon in Van

Just got our tickets for Levon in Vancouver this August. Then I'll be able to compare an actual Ramble with a road Ramble. And so nice of him to save me all that travel this time around. NB


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: one steamboat, two steamboats, three steamboats ...

Bonk: I think you're right about Mackowycz having been on CHUM-FM, but I think before that he was in very early days of Q-107 (late '70s) on account of having been a college chum of programmer wiz John Parikhal, or something like that. Our own John D could confirm, as he was there too.

Also, do you know Else and Lorne of the Islands? She's a old friend and we've visited her on Pender and Thetis and in Victoria over the years. The Thetis visit came shortly after we'd seen Eugene Smith in Duncan, and she told us that Eugene had recently been on Thetis to participate in musician-producer Dave Essig's 60th birthday party. Anyway, I had a long chat with her yesterday, in part to make up for not getting by last week, and since her research interest is a steamboat (which touches on another steamboat named the Walcott), I told her about recent posts here. I later happened to be perusing a map of the Yukon that I'd bought out west and noticed that gold-diggers travelling to the Klondike from Whitehorse (with its SS Klondike National Historic Site) would have passed within sight of Steamboat Mountain.

dlew: And if they'd looked left instead or right they couldn't have missed Australia Mountain.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: something to fall back on

Steve: not sure if Jian counts, on account of it's a talk show . . . . I thought it was funny, when I switched on yesterday Terfry was talking baseball, then he plugged the Mackowycz morning show . . . . And I see the 3rd edition of the Best of Bob Dylan's Radio Show is set for release.

In another instance of second-careerism, professional do-gooders Bono & Geldof are guest-editing the May 10 issue of _The Globe and Mail_. Africa, of course, is the new Bangla Desh / Kampuchea. See [My link].


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Posted by:

Steve

Sadavid, there's also Jian G, of course. I'm happy you made the Terfry, Buck 65 connection. I've been hearing Terfry's name in conjunction with Radio 2 Drive, though I haven't actually heard the program. I knew the name but didn't make the Buck 65 connection.

Stephen Page, was also a summer host last summer on CBC.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The musician-hosted show to watch out for from the BBC was Paul Jones (do I need to say ex-Manfred Mann, 44 years after he left?) whose R&B / Blues show also has live performances and interviews. The Van Morrison one was particularly good, where Jones joined in on harmonica, and because they were all around together in the mid-60s, it's the most relaxed Van Morrison I've heard.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: DJ Musicians...and Musician DJs

Peter Wolf worked as a DJ before becoming famous as frontman for the J. Geils Band. My favorite musician-hosted radio shows remain those hosted on Sirius-XM satellite radio by Bob Dylan and Tom Petty. Both are timeless and usually brilliant, worth tracking down. I think there's even a site devoted to "Theme Time Radio" where you can listen free online. Or there was. Too bad Mr. Dylan retired "Theme Time" after exactly one hundred shows, but he doesn't like moss to gather on anything he does. Like a rolling stone...


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Bill M

Bill, that's so funny what you said about Bob Mac. I remember that fucker drinking in Egarton's before it went punk. I'm pretty sure it's the same guy but I think he worked for Chum then. Used to hang there when Blatchford and Bono ruled the place. Fun times!


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: From the "No Matter How Skeptical And Disillusioned You May Become With Humanity, It Still Won't Be Enough To Keep Up" department.
Web: My link

Some reports even had the figure as high as 500 headstones.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Rabbit Foot Minstrel DJ Walkin' The Dog

sadavid: Musician disc jockeys go way back, as several come to mind. Waylon Jennings was a DJ, as well as a musician, at the early age of 12 in Texas. Both B.B. King and the late great Rufus Thomas worked as DJs at the influential WDIA in Memphis. Earlier in his career, before achieving success as a DJ and recording artist, Mr. Thomas worked as a comedian with F.S. Wolcott's Original Rabbit Foot Minstrels.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Steve: no, I wasn't aware. I was being a little sarcastic at my own expense, 'cause my first thought about musos-as-DJs was, "what a brave new idea, how excellent and obvious!" - and then I realized that CBC had Terfry, Molly Johnson, Randy Bachman, et al. and then there's Bob and Little Steven and probably a thousand others . . . .


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Posted by:

Steve

Cw Cw, I heard yesterday that 17 students have been killed by the authorities since that day at US colleges.

Sadavid, was the "catches on" a nod to Terfry's brief stint as a minor league pro ball player?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Here's a lively clip of Jon and Lee and the Checkmates performing "Shotgun". Note the Robbie guitar work of Larry Leishman and Michael Fonfara's organ solo. When the group folded (with most members winding up in Rhinoceros), drummer Jeff Cutler went with the Crazy World of Arthur Brown.


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: I was in my car at the same time and heard the same song and story and had the same thought - right down to the "bullshit!" response. Except I guess it wasn't, according to your link - but it sure sounds like Robbie's reading as script that he wrote hisself.

The woman dj is Kelly Catrerra (sp?), who is actually the producer or something like that. I was surprised to hear her voice on local Vancouver CBC radio last week, so I guess that's her main gig. I like Terfry's taste in music (except that he's never not once played Fred Eaglesmith in the year+ that he's had his show. That and the fact that so many of his effusions are out of date; for example, just a month or so ago he was telling his listeners that seeing Bruce Springsteen live will change your life. Jeez Rich, I've heard that since the mid '70s!

Of course he's far far superior to the morning drive-in guy, Bob Mackowycz, who's 50 but pretents he's 30. Even though he was on radio by '80, he has the nerve to say things on air like "I was too young to catch the punk era so had to pick it up from my dad's records." Bullshit!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Highwaymen

I was a highwayman, along the coach road I did ride,

My sword and pistol by my side.

The greatest country super group of all time:

Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson and Johnny Cash. In 1985 got together and toured a lot of the world. Many of their songs together are on youtube. Particularly the songs written by Ed Bruce.

"The Last Cowboy's Song" ... Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be Cowboys and more.

Watching these four men stand on stage together, one has to ponder. Say......thru 30 years of writing, recording and concerts. How much money those 4 men generated. Mind boggling.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Yesterday's Wine

Reports surfaced late last week that Paul English, who has played drums with Willie Nelson for 44 years, suffered a stroke. Mr. English was immortalized in Mr. Nelson's song "Me and Paul", which appeared on his first great album "Yesterday's Wine", released in 1971. This concept record signaled Willie's break with the Nashville establishment, as he set his path upon his own unique course in music.

"Almost busted in Laredo
For reasons that I'd rather not disclose
But if you're staying in a motel there and leave
Just don't leave nothin' in your clothes
And at the airport in Milwaukee
They refused to let us board the plane at all
They said we looked suspicious
But I believe they like to pick on me and Paul"


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Daniel Lanois's _Crazy River_

I sometimes listen to CBC Radio 2 on my 10-minute commute home at the end of a long day manipulating symbols. The program at that time is called, rather innovatively, "Radio 2 Drive." Formerly in this time slot they had "Disc Drive," which was way cuter, but they changed DJs -- the new jock is Rich Terfry, AKA world famous rapper / hip hopper Buck 65. I like this idea of musicians hosting radio shows, I hope it catches on.

Anyway, Rich was AWOL yesterday, a woman jock (why doesn't that sound right?) was subbing. When I switched on, they were halfway through "Showdown at Big Sky." (They play a LOT of Band & Band-related stuff - "Big Sky" was followed by a Colin Linden.) Anyway, post-"Sky," the hostess gushed about can it really be x number of years since Robbie's first solo album was released (she didn't sound old enough to remember, but voices can be deceptive) and then went on about D. Lanois's perspicacity as a producer. "Somewhere Down the Crazy River," she claimed, was the real-time result of young Dan'l SECRETLY recording young JRR as said JRR reminisced about visiting L. Helm in the Delta.

"Bullshit" was my thought - "Crazy River" is obviously WRITTEN, not spontaneous . . . . Well, the hostess misspoke, she meant to say (or would have meant to say had she not been mistaken) that the secret recording was the GENESIS or the INSPIRATION for the track. I hadn't heard this story before, or perhaps I'd forgotten it - in any case, see [My link].


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Posted by:

Cwipple Cweek

Location: Perth

Subject: Tin Soldiers and Nixon coming

It was 40 Years ago today that 4 students were killed whilst protesting the escalation in the Indo china war. May you all rest in peace!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Paris 1919

… will be my listening for the next couple of weeks. Just got tickets to see the John Cale "Paris 1919" concert with orchestra!


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Posted by:

Peter V

I think it's "free".

As in the guy who left Folsom Prison after shooting a man in Reno and watching him die, and yelled "I'm free! I'm free!'

The little boy on the corner looked up and said, Tho what? I'm four!'


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: outlaw country

Yes Dlew, definitely 'Shotgun Willie' and Kris' 'Me and Bobby McGee'. I'd think the term was invented to describe these albums. 'Stranger' was the hit record.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I felt the same when I learned about the over-dubbing a couple of years ago.

I've been trying to figure out how to approach your weakness in simple math. That subtraction error seems to point to a need for some basic foundational work so I'm going to start at the beginning, a very good place to start, as the song says.

We'll start with the Beatles, Come Together, the question? One and One and One is...? There has to be a certain level of trust in this for it to work, no reaching for the album.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Red Headed Stranger?

I'd've thought Shotgun Willie... but there you go. Or, to be mischeivous, Dixie Chicks' 'Taking the Long Road'


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Outlaw Country

The latest UNCUT has the "Top 20 Outlaw Country" albums, topped by Willie Nelson's Red-Headed Stranger. Surprise inclusion was Larry Jon Wilson, one of the few in the Top 20 I have.

Surprise fact I wish I hadn't known: the audience yells in "Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison", when he sings "I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die" are fake. They were over-dubbed.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hockey Legends

Hey Pat; That link on Eric Nesterenko was very interesting. Thanks for that.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno
Web: My link

Subject: W.S. Walcott's Rabbit's Foot Minstrel Review

I don't recall this being mentioned a few months ago. Did anyone catch the 8:00 show on Dec 10? Maybe someone's posted something on youtube?


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Posted by:

Young Hippie

Subject: "Peace"

Is it peaceful again in Bandland or did I miss some excitement?I come & go & I usually miss it when some action occurs.Most of the time, it is pretty uneventful around here, I must admit.Just remember this is probably the only Band site, & we should learn to respect each other.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: KKSB

Please see [My link] for a photo of the stern-wheeler KLONDIKE. The band worked in the lounge - the middle floor of the boat, at the front end - the windows curve around in a semi-circle, so the loungers get a nice panoramic view of what's coming . . . .


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Posted by:

Steve

Web: My link

Bill, Lanois will be producing Neil's next album.

After hearing one of those guys who surely would have had a hood in his secret wardrobe it's no wonder the US doesn't seem to have much political middle ground these days.

The cracked pot tea bugger, Moon Griffon, is the trash talk radio host at a station in Louisiana. Some one at the CBC decided to air a two minute segment of the program to give listeners a feeling for how people are reacting to the inevitable arrival of that huge oil slick on the Gulf Coast.

Moon, and one of his orbiting ass-terroids went on about useless tree-huggers trying to shut down America's god given right to drill holes in every square inch of the Gulf, an activity Moon and his ass-terroid thought should be gotten back to ASAP.

They argued that it made as much sense to shut down the drilling as it would to halt all car driving if there was one single accident. As you can see not may calories were being consumed by the brains of these two.

Then they cast the net of logic even wider bringing Islamic terrorists into the equation. Moon, reasoned they had to keep drilling to keep the USA safe from terrorists attacks asking the question, "Does anyone really think we've seen the last of 911 type attacks?" The link above is about one group asking the same question.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Heard it thru the grapevine

As the weather got ugly yesterday, I spent some time vegging, watching some sports. There was this commercial, (I can't remember what it was advertising now). It reminded me of an old one. There was all these little brown animated guys with white hard hats in a a mine shaft.

It reminded me of the California Raisins, where they used CCR'S version of Heard it thru the grapevine. I believe it was Welsh's grape juice they were plugging. It became very popular, and then I saw a show, on how the raisins were made. Of plastersene, (is that how you spell that gawd damn word)?

These young folks who created the characters were in a room. The walls covered with the stuff, from them throwing it every where, to vent frustration. It was really quite interesting. Great to have a job where you can throw everything at the wall when it pisses you off.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What's in a name?

Hell Bill, I spell everyone's name wrong, (except my own) but it's pretty hard to screw up J-o-n-e-s. People manage to do it tho' Joes, Johns etc, etc.

Hope you enjoyed your visit to the far side.

Well Pat, do you think we can do it again??? I'll bet you a bottle of my favourite Yankee beer on it. Pabst Blue Ribbon.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Sheet Music Credit

Bill M: Since we all know that Robbie is the sole author of the song, he gets all the credit for that wordplay:-)


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Posted by:

John W.

Happy 91st Birthday to Pete Seeger!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Westcoaster: Go with the Pat B spelling of Eric's name. He has a much better track record on these things.

Pat B: How're the Hawks doing this season anyway?

David P: Probably obvious to all, but too distasteful to talk about. Toques are pointy things people wear on their heads (mostly when it's cold, as in the Klondike), hence the thought that someone - say Levon - quipped that the group's Canuckistanis looked like ...


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: All In The Family

Bill M: The Prestige catalog is now owned by the Concord Music Group, which in recent years has also acquired other labels such as Fantasy, Milestone, OJC, Riverside, Stax, Specialty, Telarc and, most recently, Rounder. Just last month, in their latest coup, it was also announced that they'd acquired the rights to Sir Paul McCartney's solo catalog, taking them away from EMI. One of Concord's owners is famed television producer Norman Lear, best known for "All In The Family".


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The infamous triple-K

When the subject of the Klondike Klu Klux Steamboat Band was brought up recently, I was surprised that no one made the obvious, somewhat embarrassing connection with Robbie's play on words. Greek origin relating to the name aside, Southerners know all too well about KKK designation associated with the abominable, home-grown racist/terrorist organization.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Eric Nesterenko. Swoop. Had one really bad moment.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: a nation of toques

Westcoaster: Never fear; we'll leave BC some film jobs. Why just last week we were held back from crossing one of those newish streets in Coal Harbour because a Nissan commercial was being filmed. Stayed with a friend in Nort Van who happily pulled out his Stan Rogers collection. One LP recorded at the Lanois' Grant Avenue Studio by Bob - no mention of Daniel.

Bonk: I was a Ryerson '74-'78; went to the Imperial from time to time, but more often Egertons - which later went punkish as the Edge.

Simon: Thanks for posting that Howlin' Wolf clip.

Westcoaster: Eric spelled his name Nestorenko, I believe.

Joan: Any idea who own's cousin Bob's Prestige catalogue now? I'd love to see the out-there Young Ones album from '68 reissued on CD. (They were a Montreal-based jazz group consisting of five or six American ex-pats and a local guitarist and a Torontonian on auxilliary sax.)

Ari: The Klondike Klu Klux Band may well have been a pure burst of creativity on Robbie's part, but it might also be based on some off-handed reference to our guys wearing the national winter headgear, the toque. (This'd be from the days before helmets became the NHL norm.)


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Joan. We were in Rochester, New York in the George Eastman House when I heard Adele for the first time and took notice! As I was listening to her music I was flipping through a photo book (Avedon) and as soon as I saw The Band! click I took a photo.

Bobby Jones...I would loooove to see Booker T and The MGS....especially with Otis Redding! It's always very cool to get some inside scoop. The only song I really liked on Levon's All Star recording (had to buy it as an import at the time) was "You Got Me".

joe j....Thanks for thinking of Garland and me. He has one of the best voices anywhere and anytime....love his falsetto voice. Last night on Costello's show The Boss was on part two and he's just screaming more and more. I read an interview where even he couldn't understand how Garland is more of a cult artist and Bruce is worldwide.


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Posted by:

Steve

Good luck to the Hawks, Pat. In spite of losing Markov Montreal fans are feeling confident. Even though The Canadiens didn't give up 40 shots to get Halak to his comfort zone, yesterday's game felt much like the last three games against Washington, you just knew they were going to win.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Garland

Link is to a great song and funny video by one of BEG's favourites.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Night Chicago Died

Hower you feeling today now Pat? You gotta hope they'll bounce back. Acording to Grapes, it's a sign of things to come.


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Posted by:

David P

Joan: Richard Avedon took the "closed eyes" photo of The Band that graced the back cover of "Cahoots".


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Booker T. Jones

Around 1970, Booker T. Jones and his wife Priscilla Coolidge (Rita's sister) left Stax and Memphis for California. He signed with A+M Records and recorded with his wife. The rest of the MGs turned down the offer to sign with A+M and remained with the sinking ship at Stax. I have a double-LP entitled "Booker T. and Priscilla", which was released on A+M in 1971. It features a grest line-up of musicians -- Jim Keltner, Chris Etheridge, Jesse Ed Davis, Sneaky Pete Kleinkow, Bobbye Hall Porter, Jerry McGhee, Jim Horn and Sandy Konikoff. Of course, Priscilla and Rita Coolidge later worked with Robbie Robertson. Priscilla was also briefly married to the late CBS television journalist Ed Bradley in the early '80s.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Doug Mohns

Yeah Joe, Doug did come later. When the Hawks won that Stanley Cup in '61, Mikita was MVP between Kenny & Ab. He scored 5 goals & 6 assists as the Hawks knocked off Montreal 4 games to 2, then Detroit 4 games to 2.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Skooter Line

Damn.......you're right Joe I forgot Doug Mohns too. I'll have to look. I don't remember who came first. Take a look at your e mails. I was just jawing with my brother. He's out on a tow. We just exchanged some, which I promptly sent to you.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BEG's pjhoto

I think that photo is a Scavoulo. Same photographer as the "closed eyes" shot.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Scooter Line

And didn't Doug Mohns replace Ab McDonald at some point or was that vice versa?

Still on a Willie binge. I note an internet rumour that his longtime sidekick, Paul English, had suffered a stroke. Willie seems to be on the road with a bluegrass band these days promoting his 'album of the month'.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Max Weinberg leaving Conan?

Possibly, according to the linked report. User comments are not kind to anyone.

Band link? Well, apart from the E STreet Band, Jimmy Vivino is mentioned...


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

We're seeing Mavis Staples again! This time the night after Levon's gig. She always gives a nod to The Band. I took this photo when she performed at Kitchener's Blues Fest.

I hope everyone has a better day today. :-D


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Tiptoe thru the tulips

So now he's admitting to being a gay farmer.....Marg ain't going to like this.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Who took this photo of The Band?


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Posted by:

Bob F

Location: Upstate NY

Subject: Josh Ritter

Anybody out there familiar with Josh Ritter? He has a new record coming out Tuesday called 'So Runs The World Away'. There is a link on his web site to hear the entire record. It's just great.


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Posted by:

Steve

Location: Hi, My Name's Steve And I'm A Farmer

Subject: Coming Out Of The Stable

I feel Gene's pain on this one. When people make jokes or disparaging remarks about farmers I feel the need to speak up too. Better to be tactful though, Gene. Coming out, swinging, won't help the cause.

Interesting in that both farmers and gays in North America make up about the same percentage of the population at about 5%, though it's hard to get an exact handle on the number of farmers there are since many people prefer to keep their dirty little secret to themselves. I think that might be why so many farmers hide away in underpopulated rural areas where if you do happen to encounter someone it's likely to be one of your own kind. Kinda like a vast gay village, out here, I guess.

I hope I met my, comma quota, in this one.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Rod: good point...; Booker T...

You know, I didn't know Booker T was still alive.. one of those great guys who are somehow beyond the everyday... It seems to me there are two types of artists (and I haven't thought this through, so bear with me...)

1) The ethereal, the magical, the mystical the Star... People who you could never imagine meeting, even though they seem nice enough: Elton John is one of those...

2) The everyman - the one who you can envisage yourself meeting, having a drink with, and enjoying yourself with. Our guys fit into the latter category... one is not better than the other, and one is not more worthy than the other...


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Posted by:

Rod

Don't get the GB shutdown again guys.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Bobby. That’ll signal me to pull the Booker T. box set off the shelf for today’s listening! Quite often people with as long a career as Booker T. forget songs until people remind them. I recently found a 45 of his A&M single ‘Let’s Go Dancing’ which was an uncharacteristic attempt at solo singing.

On general GB matters, I learned years ago that it’s always a mistake to “feed the trolls” and engage in any discussion with these disgruntled postal worker types. This one has been making little digs at my posts for a long, long time, and given the IP address, is from an area where we barred someone on Little Pink a couple of times, hence the long-standing grudge. Yesterday I was researching factual stuff online all day and foolishly have my home page set to the GB, which means you get pulled into the back and forth.

I don’t think any ‘gay’ issue has anything to do with it. Last week it was my expressed preference for California (think of Carmel, San Francisco, La Jolla, Yosemite, Death Valley, San Diego, Venice) that led to insulting terms.

I’ve always found it fascinating that these guys can get on their high horses and wax piously about an alleged affront to one group or another, while peppering their posts with ethnic abuse, size abuse, abuse about people’s jobs, abuse about clothes … . They love the term “Limey” and comments equating the British to toffs in P.G. Wodehouse’s Jeeves books of the 1920s. For some odd reason, they think themselves free to abuse “Limeys”. Substitute other words based on supposed national food preferences for sauerkraut or frogs’ legs or spaghetti, and everyone goes “Ooh! That’s offensive!” I don’t feel offended by reference to the fact that British sailors sucked limes to ward off scurvy, but I do feel offended by the intent in choosing an ethnic slur. The British and the French are both considered fair play for this sort of thing. My attitude is the same as the French, simply shrug and look down upon the person feebly attempting to be offensive.


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Posted by:

Bobby Jones

Location: Columbus - sorta

Subject: back to your regularly scheduled program

I had the great pleasure to meet Booker T. Jones and his band tonight. First of all they were very tight, (Booker T.'s band is a interesting mix of personalities and musical influences) they also had a very interesting take on some old standards. Booker spoke to me/us about his days in the RCO-All stars and the following tour. It seems that there was a lot of disjointed factors that set that tour up for failure, Bad Publicity, Poor Leadership, Bad Management..... Etc, spoke about sitting in a running car for three hours with Dr. John, as the "Manager" (at the time) made arrangements to get back to Woodstock.(Booker and the good Dr. wondering if they would ever see a human they knew again as they sat in the back of a car in a very bad part of Brooklyn) He also said "Living with all those guys in Levon's house was beyond crazy". If you get a chance, head out and catch the show, as the band is very good and a few veterans of "The Rambles" are to be found in the group. Of note is a very interesting take of Al Green standard "Take me to the River" which features a "rap" in the middle of it (It works better than I could have dreamed). The Booker T & the MG's standards include "Green Onions and Hip Hug Her" as well as a great 20 minute take on "Hang 'Em High". Bookers Grammy winning "Potato Hole" also gets a lot of play, but that's to be expected and actually works very well as a vehicle for some solos. All in all it was an enjoyable night with a humble superstar of the rock and roll era. One funny note - while talking about RCO All Stars, Booker T and I were talking about the songs and the song "You Got Me" came up, (Booker wrote this song) which Booker at first didn't recognize, then said - "Oh yeah, I should probably record that some time soon".


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: I'm a litle confused...

I've read everything closely, and I see no evidence of gay bashing... Now, I live in a relatively 'gay' city, and know probably a dozen gay people - I work in both academia and music (2 professions not unknown for a gay population). I've done my bit to help understanding - done some charity work et cetera. So I'm pretty attuned to homophobia. I've not seen any. Peter can defend himself (though he's done nothing wrong as far as I can see). But when you attack Joan, you walk on my fightin' side... That post was Needless and unfair.


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Posted by:

Pat B

WC, ouch.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Skooter Line

Aw I looked it up myself Pat. It was Wharrram, Kenny, Stan Mikita, and Ab McDonald, but.........I'm sure you knew that.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Yikes!!!!

Jeez Pat are you watchin'???????? One thing I wanted to ask you. I made a mistake. It was Kenny Warrem not Donnie, and there were two other little guys on his line, and so they called it the "Skooter Line". I forget who they were, do you remember???

The last discussion you and the farm buoy had, I had some thoughts on. I didn't get into that. The farm buoy only listens to what he has to say. If you were watching tonight you may have seen the discussion between the Dons, McLean & Cherry.

Havlack, although admittedly a very good goalie had a relatively easy time of it against Washingtown and their heros. His 50 some shots he stopped were mostly with no one in front of him. He saw every one. As Don Cherry put it. "Washington were the nicest guys in town. They never got any one in front of the net, screening or creating traffic. Some times it's just too good to be true.

I think Washington came in with the attitude that the Russian could score whether there was anyone there or not. Or maybe the pucks were just going to fall into the net. They didn't play at all like a first place team.

There are teams yet that the reconing will show where the metal is.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: WTF

Geez, you guys really like each other EH!


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Posted by:

Gene

Now, if I were an ESL Publishing Tycoon, last thing I'd want to do would be to piss off the GLBT community with publicly published homophobia. But, of course, I'm a gentleman, not a bigoted ESL Publishing Tycoon.


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Posted by:

Gene

BTW was it Eton then Oxford for you melord?


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: "peter

Yer a fuckin Prince, as well. But you knew that, didn't you?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: He takes a Stand!

Kinda reminds me of Davy Crocket......even Steven. Hell ya ok Simon........every body's cool what the hell.

Peter leave those gawd damn cucumbers alone. They're givin' yuh gas fer chrisake.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Absolutely, Gene. Well done. We all applaud you. What a hero. The courage it must have taken for you to be bloody rude to Joan when she politely suggested an olive branch might be a good idea! The mind boggles at such internet bravery. You're a true gent, a defender of the unjustly attacked. I can't think of enough accolades. The words "What a total PC prat" comes to mind, but I'll dismiss them.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Apologies to the Squeamish

Today has been a milestone to the GB. I have put the bigots on notice that gay-bashing will no longer go unanswered.


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Subject: Howlin' Wolf

Brown Eyed Girl - Of course you're sweet too. And the links are always appreciated and duly bookmarked.

Maybe the whole thing was a misunderstanding as I must admit to being confused a while back about the storm in a teacup that was the comment Peter made about Elton John being the 'real Queen of England' (or whatever it was). As Peter said at the time they were Elton's own words and (I thought) affectionately quoted. I applaud Gene taking a stand against bigotry, but I just think he was reading something into it that wasn't there. Peter seems about as far from that kind of bigot as it's possible to be. I also have to say "pompous" has become some sort of tedious and meaningless default word. I nearly dozed off just typing it.

Norm, I was merely speculating about "Ballad of a Thin Man". Surely it's not about some guy who needs to put on a few pounds?

I'll leave y'all with a clip of Howlin' Wolf (and Willie Dixon and Hubert Sumlin) doing Smokestack Lightning from England in 1964. Don't you just love the fella? (There was a snippet of the clip in the Dr Feelgood movie so here it is in all its glory - click link).


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Totally Bewildered

How in hell did we get from hockey and Bob Dylan to "gay clubs"???????

Onliest gripe I have.......I mean whatever works for you I could care less.....except. I can think of two girls right out of my head I've known whose name was "Gay". So who in the hell decided to use that word,(Name) to define homosexual people. That's the only part of this that pisses me off. Gay.......meaning, happy, carefree. I'll never figure it out.

Lookit the names.......band........ACDC.....now I'm sure everyone knows what that means. Also what a "Steely Dan" is or a "Lovin' Spoonful".

Jeez when I was growing up there were so many terms, (not of endearment) that kept people in the closet. 4 speed, gearbox........and on and on. I think it's pretty easy to tell when a lot of these remarks are made malishiously.

I can't see how what Peter said even falls in that category. How does bringing attention to what some one else has said qualify???????? (Unless you obviously endorse it)

Awright..awright Joan, I'm going back to painting on my tug now. I had my tea & cold steak & alfalfa sprout sandwich.

Gawd damn cucumber sandwich........mumble,mumble,mumble.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: BEG

Thank you, for your input. I believe in speaking out against bigotry, as I think you know. BTW I know Sylvia and she never said anything negative about Louuu.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Simon....I may not be one of the sweetest posters but I would still like to express myself as well. lol

Hi Gene. It is soooo humid today in Toronto! I was in Kensington Market checking out clothing for two weddings I have coming up....that's right...one with imagezulu and one with "Mr. Maximus".

Anyway......I'm very sorry that you were very triggered today....You're right....words have a lot of power and weight. Back in the day I was called a "fag hag" by my friends 'cause sometimes I just wanted to have fun, fun, fun with them in Toronto's gay clubs....We're talking '80's here. Remember....New Order.....Gang Of Four.....Style Council.....? Now they have taken back the word "queer" so the sting is out of it and refer to themselves as queer.
BTW I had to look up one of your put down words....I never heard of the word "snooks".
While in Grad School we shared a home and he eventually went into teaching himself. He was the one who told me that in the gay community James Dean's nickname was "ashtray" because he apparently burnt himself with cigarettes because he liked to go both ways. Louuuuu and Bowie apparently did too.....If Louuu can forgive Bowie for writing "Queen Bitch" for him by performing the song with David at MSG......Could we also? If Peter was anything like the person you perceive him to be....I wouldn't give him the time of day.
Now that Chi Town organ player who can debate from his sleep.....not sure about him Gene! ;-D


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Gene

last post was by me, my bad. Signing off, return to your usual discourse.


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Posted by:

Simon

Pardon, but your opinions interest me not at all.


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Subject: "Oil City Confidential" / Dr Feelgood

Joan is one of the sweetest posters here and her words are always wise. She doesn't seem to have any agenda at all as far as I can see.

I've just remembered a very funny exchange from way back when in the GB. It was Al Edge responding to a post from BWNWTenn, who had spent some time over in England - where we all wear monocles - and BWNWTenn commented about a guy walking into a pub in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex wearing some camp outfit. The general gist being that the guy would last 5 minutes in a neigborhood bar in America. Al Edge's response was hilarious.

That allows me to segue nicely to the link above ... I'm not sure if any of the programmes on the BBC iPlayer are available overseas - my brother seems to think so - but I wholeheartedly recommend the documentary about Dr Feelgood, "Oil City Confidential." It's only available on the BBC iPlayer until Monday night and it's rumoured to not be getting a DVD release. I can't fathom that as it's such a great music documentary. You might also be able to download it from the site even though it has some kind of time expiry/self destruct thingiyo (if you wanna get technical about it.

Singer Lee Brilleaux bought a property in Leigh-on-Sea with the advance from his record deal and called the place "The Proceeds." Honestly, this movie is well worth a hour and a half of your time. Julien Temple's documentaries always include a fair bit of what you might call 'social history' and this one is his best IMO. There is definitely something about Canvey Island a/k/a "the Thames Delta".

My earliest memory of Dr Feelgood is seeing them on daytime TV in the early to mid 70s and thinking they were the coolest thing I'd ever seen. I may be getting the chronology wrong but it always seemed to me that music back then on the 'telly' consisted of either The Wombles (who seemed to be number one for an eternity) or the likes of Keith Emerson humping a Moog synth while it made stupid noises. I was probably only about seven or eight but Dr Feelgood were something else entirely, especially Lee Brilleaux in a cool white three button jacket with narrow lapels. (Bear in mind it was the mid 70s). Plus you couldn't keep your eyes off Wilko Johnson. Hopefully you'll be able to access the movie (see link). If not it's worth seeking out on t'interwebs.

Peter, thanks I wasn't sure if I was misremembering. As regards Bob Dylan it always struck me as obvious that "Ballad of a Thin Man" was a not so subtle reference to some hapless and naive outsider visting a gay club. "'Impossible', as he hand you a bone", "the sword swallower ... clicks his high heels" etc. There are half a dozen other lines I could quote.

P.S. Don't forget your fob watch and waistcoat ;-o)


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Joan

Apparently, totally between me and "peter." No need for your input, unless you have gay-bashing on YOUR agenda. Thank you.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Gene

Could you dial it down a notch. Recently the GB has been quite pleasant. Talk of music and hockey and respectful exchanges. Can we get back to that please? If you are going to flame me, be my guest I saw no malice in what Peter wrote


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Posted by:

Peter V

It's been a lovely chat, Gene. Sweet of you to bother, but i'm afraid it's time for my tea and cucumber sandwiches.


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Posted by:

Gene

Don't forget 'pompous.'


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Size-ism

I don't think this is a flame war, I have vague memories of those with more articulate opponents. What I don't understand, Gene, is how making remarks on someone's "girth" is PC, which is the position you appeared to be taking. I now assume it was you who made the remarks last week about girth and ascots. I thought you were talking about my general weight, and I'm not light, but in American terms, not fantastically huge either. Apparently it was a more personally directed comment today. Well, thank you for your interest.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Pat

Pat, you HEATHEN PAGAN (said in the most respectful way), it has long been postulated that, shall we say, 'portly' men have compensated for other, erm, shortcomings.

"peter" please note that you were the first to introduce the words, 'queen,' and 'queer.' Have no fear, mate, I am totally 'gay-friendly,' and, if you want to think I am gay, feel free. However, I am not un-attached, currently. Cheers.

omg - is this a flame war???


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Posted by:

Pat B

Gene, I don't agree, but it still remains the only attempt at humor.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Talents recognized

"peter,' no worries concerning my talents being well rewarded. Thank you, however, for the compliment. I would, please note, that you redirect your rhetoric to more 'politically correct' avenues.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I remember the discussion, Simon. Yes. The people I've most heard use words like "queens" and the one that so upset Gene are gay people.


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Posted by:

Gene

Pat, I think the reference to 'manhood' had more to do with 'girth' than sexual orientation.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

How accurately you've captured Van Morrison's distinctive Northern Irish speech pattern there, Gene. Ever thought of becoming a scriptwriter? Sad to see talent going to waste. The link's for you as you doubt these things exist in the UK.

I would have thought "Just Like A Woman" could be considered mysogonistic if you wanted to get uptight about it. I re-looked at the Heylin book and the description of the guy coming up and saying he was the woman Dylan met an hour earlier comes from a Dylan rap introducing the song in San Francisco in 1980, but then he'd have been aiming for local interest. A bit like "I'm so glad to be in your wonderful city" beloved of soul singers.

Heylin is pretty good on this song. Nice Dylan quotes (from hours of concert tapes no doubt). Dylan said he couldn't understand anyone singing it except himself, but he also offered it to Otis Redding. Lots of stuff. The song will always be cryptic, but Heylin points out it was completed right after Temporary Like Achilles which has a line "hungry like a man in drag."


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Posted by:

Pat B

Gene, I saw no humor nor any attempts at humor, other than Peter noting that Van's band dutifully laughed at a cornflakes line and that Chris Farlowe might have laughed at the queer line. In fact, the only attempt at humor seemed to be Enough's anger at the discussion then an effort to call Peter gay--brilliantly ironic I must say, wot?


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

I have to say Peter's comments (including the Elton reference way back) don't strike me in the least bit homophobic. In fact about four years or so we exchanged a couple of e-mails wherein we discussed what might and might not be acceptable in that regard - as a member of my family bats for the other side - and we concluded that it was the intention that counted. Peter, correct me if I've got this wrong. In fact I dimly recall Peter saying he'd asked a gay acquaintance about the same issue. I think Gene is overreacting.

Anyway, click on the link for a bit of Beatles press conference fun from 1966. It's relevant and John Lennon's closing quip might just give some the hump. I thought it was funny, especially considering what has been confirmed about the holiday with Mr Epstein. Things were different back then re. what was and wasn't acceptable.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Politically Correct

Good point, Pat, thanks for showing me the light. I missed the 'humour,' I guess. There's a queer in here, There's a queer in here, There's a queer in here, There's a queer in here.

YES! Jolly good fun. Wot?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Ahh, the HEM Line (Hull, Phil Espisito, Chico Maki) the Million Dollar Line (Hull, Bill Hay, Murray Balfour)....

Evidently discussing a cryptic Bob Dylan lyric when channeled by Van Morrison is too much for the politically correct here.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Benny Hill

I would have thought being dead would make it hard for him to post ANYTHING on the GB, which is a pity because he had a sense of humour.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Real Hockey!

When men were men, and sheep were nervous. Pat! Don't ever tell anyone, but....back in those late 60's, Chicago was always my team. The days of Bobby Hull, Stan Mikita, Donny Warrem, Phil Esposito, Eric (elbows) Neserenko, Moose Vasko, Pierre Pilot, and of course Glenn Hall one of the greatest of the greats.

I was never a Montreal fan at all, but it was hard not to like Ivan Cournya, (I can't remember how to spell his name and Henry Richard. A cool story. When living in Langley about 1985. The Canadian Oldtimers team was doing there tour out here and stopped in Langley to play the Langley Oldtimers.

They included Henry Richard, Norm Ulman and many others. Rocket was reffing the game. As we were in the league, we had tickets. There was a dinner with the guys, and an autograph session. I brought Craigs team picture, on the back there were spaces for all team members to sign. I had all those guys sign it. Craig, when a little boy had very bright blonde hair with big curls. Henry Richard spotted him and picked him up and held him on his arm the whole time he signed autographs....well to this day he's the greatest hockey player ever according to Craig.

At 29, Craig now plays in the Fraser Valley League Brett Hull used to play in before ending up an NHL star. Craig's mother has 16 brothers and sisters, and their offspring number about 53. Craig's entire team is him and his cousins except for 2, who are brother in laws. This bunch of young guys would never smoke or take a drink of anything. They are all into martial arts, boxing, hockey, and rugby. They won so many games this year, the Fraser Valley Hockay Association moved them up a division to be more competitive. The first game they played, they played the first place team, and beat them 7-5. These guys have their, "chant", which ends with, (loosing is not an option). Crazy bunch.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Worstcoaster

Dunno - how many times have Benny Hill and Mel Brooks engaged in posting serial homophobic slurs on the GB?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Fastest Milkman in the West

Benny Hill went to the same high school as me, Norm. Not at the same time obviously. He was from Southampton and the kids from KIng Edward School were evacuated to Bournemouth during the bombing in 1940 and shared the school.

It's a sad story. The Benny Hill Show was the most profitable thing Thames TV had by a mile, shown all round the world. then some uptight PC managers came in and delighted in their power in being able to dump the TV channel's biggest act. They did. He was left out in the cold just like that.

I often drive past Southampton Common, where he lived in his parents old house and walked everyday. He was a weird guy, but completely harmless. Some of the "Hill's Angels" have described his preferences which were known to them and completely solitary.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Girls are like pianos - when they're not "upright" they're grand

From........Benny Hill. I guess Benny Hill, Mel Brooks and the like are amoung the worst of the worst of red neck bigots huh???????


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Ilkka and Jan H.....Happy Irie May Day!!!!!!

For you Ilkka.....Ok, that's it. I have to get on with my life. :-D


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For David P......'cause we know ya love vinyl.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Carry on

Revel in yer bigotry, 'peter'


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Nuit de Walburgis (F)/ The Eve of May Day (GB)/ Walburgisabend (D)/ Vappuaatto(FI) / Valborgsmässoafton (SE)

FYI: Up here i Nordic Countries (and especially in Finland) this day is our "Mardi Grass" and Rio Carnival with a lot of drinking and joking and unsafe sex. At the same time it is a special day for working people - socialists and communists- and even for students and academic people as well.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Those are racist terms, Gene. They're not in my vocabulary. I'll leave them for you.

The story according to Heylin is that a guy spoke to Dylan at a party and said 'You know that woman with red hair you were talking to an hour ago?' and Dylan said 'Yes,' and the guy said 'Well, that was me.' And though Just Like A Woman is almost certainly about many people, including Edie Sedgwick, with her fog, her amphetamine and her pearls, it's also about Queen Mary, and no doubt others in the Warhol & Ginsberg crowds. As it's one of Dylan's greatest songs, the lyrics are worth talking about and I suspect he put in as many enigmatic bits as usual, and was enjoying doing so. For Van Morrison, hearing the story from someone who presumably heard the, or rather "an", inside track on it from Dylan, the late 60s word is the one he'd use. It was one many gay people used at the time, including Allen Ginsberg, referring to himself.

You can chase an offensive word through the years and see it come and go. Disabled is a good example here, which became a "no-no" word for a few years and replaced with the mealy-mouthed "differently-abled" until disabled people reclaimed it and now it's standard again.

Britain is different. The most popular Friday night chat show on BBC1, the Jonathan Ross Show, has a resident house band called Four Poufs & A Piano. They've been going for years. We just don't get steamed up in the same way.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: afraid?

Why not move on to bashing 'coons' and 'kikes'?


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Posted by:

Peter V

I don't usually engage in debate with people who are afraid to post under anything except anonymous headings.

First, I'm not Van Morrison. The reference was from Heylin, following a point of discussion on Biblical references in Dylan. The point was mentioned because Heylin connected it to The Band (in general in Woodstock) and more likely Robbie as Van's source for the line. The interpretation that Dylan was writing about a man may or may not be true, but it's referenced as a theory in just about every book on his lyrics I've ever read, and I first saw it way back in 1966.


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Posted by:

Enough

Subject: Queen Queer

How about finding a song with 'faggot' or 'puff' and writing 10 more posts, each referencing the offensive word?

Methinks maybe there is a problem with your own manhood???


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cornflakes

I could only find one on a boot, Loreley 1999, which is not with Farlowe. I found my 1998 review (from 15 years ago) where Farlowe wasn’t with him, and he announced “Dig these lyrics …” before he started and he added “I was hungry and you were calling all the shots!” (which doesn’t look good on paper) and he also did the line “You fake just like a woman … you make cornflakes … just like a woman’ which he also always did to make the band laugh, which they did … every time.

It’s definitely “What’s worse … what is worse! There’s a queer in here …’ on the Loreley tape, which also has the ‘cornflakes’ line.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Uhhhhh....I think Van actually omits some...."in here's" on Dylan's JLAW....I guess he was thinking of something else. ;-D

I loved Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4". Pat B....When we'd watch hockey religiously as a family once upon a time....Ma would be cheering for The Habs....She loved The Rocket and Pocket (bit before my time so then she moved on to Beliveau)...Grampa and I would cheer on The Leafs and big brother would cheer for The Hawks. Yes....I lived in a very dysfunctional family. I left hockey after the Gilmour years.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Van's Just Like A Woman

He's done it live lots of times. I'll have to check a couple of boots. I'm sure he did 'There's a queer in here' once with Chris Farlowe because they were laughing after the line. Heylin is always so sure of himself that I'd love to find it wrong (mind you, he wrote a book on Van too).


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For those of you who don't have Van's "Just Like A Woman" (1971) by Van the Man.
Many thanks to Pat B who first turned me on.....to this particular cover.
Van sings.... "I was weird and you were weird too."

*"Is it queer in here?"* is what I hear Peter.

Van does get into the line......"So I came in here.....came in here.....came in here......came in here...came in here.....came....came...came in here".....You can check for the right number of times.
One thing Crabgrass always detested about Van was the way he'd go on and on and on and on with certain lines of a song....
Song has been known to be inspired by Edie Sedgwick. Richie Havens also covers this song really well.

Oh Carol.....I can't wait for your interview with the legendary Jerry Schatzberg! Ohhhh la, la! I tried to email him but found the wrong Jerry S. lol

Bonk....I never hung out at The Imperial. I almost checked it out when Rick Danko's nephew posted on this site....was it Little Pink? to meet there before one of Levon's gigs. I do know of the music shop.....I used to buy used recordings there and did buy the outtakes of "Woodstock" because The Band was on it on VHS. I don't remember the burger joint. I think back in the day I'd go to Toby's. After Ryerson (so much fun!) One of my former classmates is now the Director of Music at Bravo Canada I think.....John Dunn. I transferred to University of Toronto and then to Grad School for Child Development....I'm so happy that next year I get to teach Drama and Vocal Music again! Yeah! Yeah!


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Posted by:

NetzSeitenFuhrer (Die Kleine Hellrote)

Subject: Congratulations Peter V!

Congratulations! You are the visitor number 1.000.000 (= 35 + 27 + 12). Next time in Germany go to any "Zum Bahnhof" and order Fischefrikadellen and ask them to send the bill to Herr Ing. Kruze.


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Posted by:

Todd

Subject: The New Math

Yes, but 27-15 = 12.......so maybe that's 1/2 of the story.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 25 or 6 to 4

Dunno where I got 27 + 12 = 35. But maths was never my strongest subject. I thought I'd mastered addition but clearly not.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Peter V. "35 minus 12 equals 27"

On your morning tea tomorrow Sunday I suggest that you wake up 40 minutes earlier and bake some scones and listen to "Country Pie" (Nashville Skyline) and let Mrs V to scratch your back instead!!!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 35 minus 12 equals 27

Over my morning tea, I picked up Heylin's "Revolution in the Air" (which I hadn't finished but had abandoned some time ago, leaving it for odd minutes, a song at a time) and looked back at the Blonde on Blonde section. There are a few interesting Hawks references, though he fails to mention RR's guitar on Visions of Johanna.

On Rainy Day Women #12 and 35, he says the title, which was designed to fool the radio censors that it was about stoning women, comes from Proverbs 27, verse 15 "A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike". Heylin points out that Dylan "ever the wit" didn't call it Rainy Day Women #27 and 15 … but plays with the mathematical relationship. (35-12 = 27. 27 - 12 = 15). So there you go on complex Biblical reference … back in early 1966.

Still on Blonde on Blonde, Heylin discusses Just Like A Woman and points out that Van Morrison always sings 'There's a queer in here' in live shows instead of 'I can't stay here'. Heylin believes that Morrison was party to "scuttlebut talk" about the songs origins, probably from Robbie, who was in Nashville and present when Dylan first played it to Robert Shelton. Take that as you wish.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: That Girl in The Dylan Photo

Carol, thanks for the info on the mystery woman in the Dylan photo. Looks like BEG's hunch was correct. I never chimed in at the time, but I had my doubts that it was Sara Dylan. At first look, there's a similarity, but I brought the two photos into Photoshop and overlaid one over the other. Similar shaped faces, but different eyes, nose, and lips. The girl in the club photo is pretty in a cute sort of way, but Sara Dylan has more of a timeless beauty.....More mysterious, dark and handsome. Aside from that, I think Bob and Sara Dylan circa 1965/66 would be sitting right next to each other in a social setting out in public as depicted in the photo.


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Posted by:

Pat B

I second any good words about Steve Freund.

Westcoaster, both teams are blowing so much hot air it's kind of funny. But if you drop them, I'll let Adam Burish swoop in and protect me. I do think it's going to be a great series. I like the Canucks' game.


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Posted by:

joe j

You know, being a creature of habit, I probably post the same time every week. Friday night is girls night out so I'm home alone with a little CC and weed, snow crab on the barbie. Life is so fuckin good. You know, this Willie thing is getting a little out of hand. You know.



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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Stopping in to plug fellow Kings Highwayman Steve Freund's new disc Lonesome Flight. Steve is from the same neighborhood as I, left Brooklyn for Chicago when he was 17. Played with the greats, and was sunnyland slim's accompaniest for many years. Pat, I would expect you know steve, possibly well.

the best way i can describe Lonesome Flight is as the antidote for screaming guitar syndrome. Amazing, true blues guitar. This is straight blues, no chaser, so if you don't love blues, and you dontl want to expand your pallete, don't buy this record. The guitar work is impeccable. Steve is a master, schooled in the old ways,and made them his own. His originals, the lyrics come from his life. No extraordinary writing here,but he tells some of his story. The emotions are real. The guitar work is exceptional enough that essentially that is all that matters- if you love his gutiar, the lyrics and emotions become more meaningful. As fussy as i am, i love this record. Can't stop playing it.

Let Me Down Easy,the classic, one of the covers, well, that song is worth the price of the disc alone. I have this disc three weeks ,I must have listened to that song 300 times while driving. On Let Me Down Easy, Steve proves that white men can sing the blues ...Peter, this is proof. he doesn't try to sound black, and he doesn't. But his singing is influenced by a lifetime of working with great blues singer. Freund has a natural vibrato. All i can say is that you people know me as one critical son of a gun. Especially when it some to vocalists. The vocal on Let Me Down Easy is perfect. Emotional done in one take, and is fucking perfect.

Steve used two rhtythm sections, one is excellent, June Core is a fine blues drummer.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: down along the cove
Web: My link

Subject: david and sadavid

David Powell: I enjoyed your post at BFB and thought I'd sneak it in here. Apologies if you've already done so. Link is to Fab Faux doing side two of Abbey Road live in studio.

Sadavid: "Are you're garments spotless, are they white as snow, are they washed in the blood of the lamb?"

I'm still on my Willie trip, as much as someone who seems to be working 12/7 can be on a trip. 'The Troublemaker', a country-gospel recording from the same time/place as 'Shotgun Willie' is my record de jour.


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BONK

Subject: BEG

Funny you should mention Ryerson. Owned a Printing company on Bond Street right beside the Greek Church from 1982-1993. There was a coffee shop in front of us. Remember Raffles Burgers? We used to hoist a few upstairs in a bar called the Library, but can't remember the name of the bar downstairs. And right between the bar and Raffles was a funky old record store that I think catered to Jazz. I just heard that Ernie the hot dog guy passed away last year after being on the corner of Gould Street for 25 years. Now I remember. The bar was called the Imperial.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Dylan

I'm with you there Sadavid. Back in the day when Dylan came out with many of these lyrics for his songs, it sent you lookin' for the bible, to see what he was comin' up with now.

Did you ever get the chance to watch on Youtube, when they played ,"My Back Pages" at Bob's 30 Anniversary. It's the best you could ever hear.

Roger takes the first verse, then I think......George Harrison, Tom Petty, Neil Young, and Clapton. It was just the ultimate, for instumental, and vocal.

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