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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, February 2010


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: BARK doing the brown album

with garth on keys.... Fabulous idea, just on priciple!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Princess & The frog

There's a review waiting to be written equating the "voodoo" sequences in Disney's latest with the "cemetery / acid trip" sequences in "Easy Rider" which seems to have influenced them. That gives a cast-iron Band connection.


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Posted by:

Young Hippie

Subject: Chill out

This is The Band's gb;maybe that's why Sebastian got lost again. To avoid all the BS that goes down on here. Be cool don't be a fool. You dig?


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Posted by:

Gene

Steve - of course I expect to take fire from you, in your juvinile way, for speaking out against your bullshit. Why don't you stick to telling us how you castrate your animals and rant against marching bands, rather than glorify your idol Adolf. I don't really care that much about you to give a shit and my life is none of your business, however, you are a LOSER. Case closed.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Steve get a hold on your great somebody, stop mocking around and tell me have you read Dalton Trumbo’s Johnny Got His Gun. Or seen the move? I haven’t seen it yet, we’ll watch it this evening.

War is a filthy nasty business. I live in Germany , now there isn’t much that still reminds of the two wars here and people don’t talk about it but in a strange way it’s always near.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Ry, Chieftains, NYC

I know what you mean about both Ry Cooder and The Chieftains. Ry Cooder's recent thematic series albums all contain at least a few gems and I've never been sorry I've bought one (Chavez Ravine, My Name is Buddy, I Flathead). On the other hand, Chieftains albums are never as good as the Van Morrison collaboration, "Irish Heartbeat" and after that one I bought a couple that I hardly played.

The relationship between Ry Cooder and The Chieftains goes way back to 1995 when he was on two tracks on "The Long Black Veil" album (the one where Mick Jagger fails to improve on The Band, Lefty Frizell or Johnny Cash).

If you can get The Sunday Times online, today's Table Talk by A.A. Gill is located in NYC, and hilarious. I tried to find a link, but apparently the page isn't up yet and the weaknesses of online newspapers were all too clear. The joy of newspapers is finding articles you were NOT looking for. An appetizer:

"This is the only English-speaking city where a grown-up can wear a T-shirt that says "F*** you, you f***ing f***, in the expectation that the passing nubility will find it amusing, sophisticated and erotic. This is the only English-speaking city where they jolly well might."


Entered at Sun Feb 28 12:40:20 CET 2010 from 21cust180.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.180)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Gene, just another nobody?

Gene, don't be so hard on yourself. If you're going to pretend not to be interested enough in my posts to read them maybe you shouldn't admit to reading them closely enough to give us your own interpretation.

Hang in there, a light may go on some day.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Neil Young

Charlie, I heard the NBC Neil Young closing ceremony announcement, too.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

I'm sure I heard an NBC ad for the closing ceremony of the Olympics promising a Neil Young appearance, though other sources say Jimmy Fallon has been in Vancouver imitating Mr. Young again. I guess we'll find out the answer tomorrow night.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Don't let them get your goat, David P.

I've read the posts and you are in the right. Nobody seems to pay attention to Bovine Boy very much, anymore.


Entered at Sun Feb 28 02:38:07 CET 2010 from blk-222-220-109.eastlink.ca (24.222.220.109)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Tomorrow Is A Long Time

Thanks for the link Peter. Great story. The Cooder/Chieftains collaboration should come with a warning. May not live up to the sum of its parts. Both artists have been guilty of releasing sterile archival music. Both Irish and Latino music should have (I don't know the word, speaking neither Irish nor Latino) pizzazz maybe? Pogues and Los Lobos have it whatever it is.

Some game Canada/USA women's final. Some great players from each side will probably retire this year. It's been my great pleasure to meet and work with classy ladies like Jayna Hefford, Becky Kellar, Jenny Potter, Angela Ruggiero and Hayley Wickenheiser. They are my last connections to the game and it kind of makes me feel old.

The mens team panicked horribly against the Slovaks. They have none of the speed and flair of their American rivals.

Link is to a blog re Dylan covers. I suggest you check out Elvis' 'Tomorrow Is A Long Time'. Video montage includes a couple pics of Dylan and Hawks


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

I finally figured out whose pants were similar to the ones worn by the Olympic curling team from Norway. If you're not familiar with the Bob's Big Boy restaurant corporate logo, look on Google images. I wonder if Jan H. wears pants like that.


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Posted by:

Deb

The song "John Riley", written by Tim O'Brien and Guy Clark, from O'Brien's CD "The Crossing" is about an Irish man who fought with Mexico.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: GOOD!

Doin' really good Lars........got Steve right where we want him, (on the ropes).

I was just out in my garden. The rhubarbs away up, rasp berries are all getting leaves. That magnolia tree's buds are starting to open. Damn it looks good.

Now I got to tell you an interesting story that just came about. In Powell River here lives a guy named Einer. Einer plays and sings a little. Funny thing is, he is friends with Fast Eddy, whose studio we did my CD in. Einer and I have been a lot in the same circles but never really knew each other.

Well two days ago, I was down at Eddy's and mentioned Einer. Hell yeah Eddy says, you and Einer got to get together. Then I tell Eddy, I got Lorne and I tickets to take our wifes and go see the Eagles in May. Well shit Eddy says, now listen to this. Eddy says well you were just talking about Einer, know what he has? Well what Eddy. He says that flat bed Ford in that song Jackson Brown & Glenn Frey wrote.....well Einer owns that old rig.....no shit.

Well this morning I met up with Einer down on the wharf, (he has a little old boat), so I asked him. Well Einer says, yeah, I own it. It's a 1947 Ford, what we call a "pickup" you guys down there call a flatbed. Einer says, I don't know for sure that it really is from that story, but it's supposed to be. This flower child girl of the 60's from California, drove it up here, and through Arizona, and is supposed to have picked up one of those guys from the Eagles, and that is how that verse came about.

Well any way today I e mailed Glenn Frey to see what he has to say about it. I don't know if I'll get an answer or what, but.......maybe it will be ineresting...


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Under duress

John Cleese, dressed as a Roman centurian and holding his sword to my throat:

CLEESE: St. Patrick's WHAT?

LARS: ST Patrick's BATTALION!!!!

CLEESE: Right. Now copy that 100 times by morning or ...else.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Stuffed again

I must not be copying the youtube urls correctly, or maybe I miss something when I do it...because my links don't usually go through (sob). Oh well.

Look it up in Youtube: Saint Patrick's Brigade + movie (I saw it a while back and it was pretty good.)


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY
Web: My link

Subject: St Patrick's Brigade

How goes it out there, Norm?


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Web: My link

Subject: Hubert Sumlin's behind the scenes video of Levon

I've got to say, I'm really glad I stumbled upon this video.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: San Patricio

More on The Chieftains / Ry Cooder collaboration (with Linda Ronstadt) in the link to amazon.co.uk.

The story itself sounds interesting and I hadn't even heard of it … an Irish battalion which fought with Mexico in the Mexican-American war. According to reviews so far, Ry Cooder's The Sands of Mexico is the outstanding song.

Let's hope the altered perspective doesn't turn out to "deeply offend" anyone north of the border. By which I mean north of the Rio Grande, not the 49th Parallel.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Olympics in Russia

oh my God.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 22:38:02 CET 2010 from 21cust57.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.57)

Posted by:

Steve

Sorry NB. it was early in the morning and I was going fast and Jeff doesn't offer a speed reading version of his comprehension course. I was also reading the posts in reverse order they were posted so didn't recognize the answer in the second one, the first one I read , when I came upon the question in the second one.

David, stop, having you post one of my comments twice is defeating your argument about all the new posters dropping in and seeing my post. If you stop reposting it it will fade into the past and all the new folks that drop by everyday will not keep coming face to face with it. Thousands have probably seen it already.

Horrors of horrors, someone skimming through may think it's your post and tell you how vile you and your post are.

By the way, there is no arguing that the IOC and the cities that host the games do carry on Hitler's tradition of the torch run and sweeping the unwashed from the streets to make for a more "wholesome" impression of the games and the city that runs them.

I hope you're not in denial in regards to that.

Stay tuned for the next winter Olympics in Russia.

The IOC, who remove your money with a pen, will encounter "businessmen" who do the same with automatic weapons and the support of the state.

It will make all the games that came before, except for Munich and Berlin, seem tame and uneventful in comparison.

The IOC has probably bitten off more than it can chew, cashing in on what it thought would be a very lucrative deal, awarding( always love that term)the 2014 games to Russia when Russia was swimming in black gold, Texas Tea loot.


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Posted by:

NB

Stevon: Pay contention, will ya ? I already made the Holympic connection for ya in my last post. Hay, didn't The Great Offend(0 offer some kind of Reading Apprehension course a while ago ? NB.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 17:34:52 CET 2010 from (206.53.157.87)

Posted by:

David P

So the statement about Hitler's many good ideas was sarcastic or ironic in the context as posted in The Band guestbook. And I guess the inference that other Olympic host countries have implimented similar tactics to those of Nazi Germany in 1936, which hosted both the summer and winter games, was merely hyperbole. So, even the first time visitor to The Band GB would recognize and appreciate the humor in such statements, and those many former posters, who no longer participate here, are missing out on all the fun.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 17:34:18 CET 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A serious Note

It was very sad, during these celebrations, to see Walter Koenig and his wife walking sadly down the street in Vancouver, after just finding out that their son Andrew took his own life in Stanley Park here in Vancouver.

It seems a very depressed and disturbed young man. May he rest in peace, and strength to his poor old mum and Dad. Walter Koenig has always been such a well liked man.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: … and Doctor John

I neglected to mention that Dr John sings "Down in New Orleans" the big opening song.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 16:34:19 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Randy Newman, Ry Cooder

Just saw "The Princess & The frog" where Randy Newman turns in a classic Disney soundtrack with a New Orleans setting (the story is transposed to New Orleans). Fantastic soundtrack work (and the return to traditional animation is hugely refreshing).

Also, I see The Chieftains & Ry Cooder have a new collaboration, based on the brigade of (mainly) Irishmen who fought on the Mexican side in 1846. Sounds very promising.


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Posted by:

Steve

Of course, NB. He killed her in California I believe then got to BC with the aid of his stepsister or another female relative. Please make the link.

I'm guessing he stood on some sort of podium to get his head into the noose. Possibly his life started sliding downhill after his Mexican TV stint and he considered himself a luger.

David, from now on I'll try and be more explicit since you're having trouble understanding the meaning of my posts and that is probably my fault. I take too much for granted.

Would it help if I inserted, " that the IOC felt were", making the sentence in question; Hitler and Co. had what the IOC felt were many good ideas and have been incorporated into the Olympic movement.

You have to understand I converse with cows all day and they have no problem with short hand.

Dlew, I'll take your challenge to the next level and say I'd like to hear Blackie and The Rodeo Kings do the whole Brown album.

I know it's a bit of a cheat because they'd probably get Garth to play with them but they'd do a great job. Would they still qualify if they used Levon to drum but he didn't sing?

The only song I see them having difficulty with would be Whispering Pines.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: The Weight from Italy?

An unusual version of the Weight from Tao and Brunella Boschetti. I'd never heard of them.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Charlie

Thanks, Charlie - a great version of a great song.

I never tire of hearing 'The Weight'.

If you don't know them, use Youtube to take a look at 'the Transatlantic Sessions'. Jerry Douglas and Ally Bain(Scotland) are behind them. Features American, Canadian and Celtic musicians - several of whom have been discussed in the GB.

Glad you got a job.

You too Dlew.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 11:58:11 CET 2010 from p4fcac46c.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.196.108)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Got My Mojo Working

Pat, this is a better Clapton in Buffalo (link, although a poor vid, worth listening)

Dlew, didn't know about your job, congrats too of course!


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: And all this leads me to thinking...

Who would we like to see cover a band song, and which one?

I'd start by saying (off the top of my head): Stevie Wonder doing 'The Weight'; Dixie Chicks 'When You Awake'; Radiohead doing 'Jawbone'; hmmm.... Wilco doing 'Stage Fright'.... these are kind of dumb and obvious: what do others think?


Entered at Sat Feb 27 11:21:55 CET 2010 from c-59-101-54-176.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.54.176)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Thanks Pat... EC was there, and maybe he should have been here...

I was most interested to read about Clapton doing 'Chest Fever' from ROA: I was listening to my 'Greatest Hits' (the Aus. version which has more songs on it than the UK and US versions) - and I remember thinking when I first heard it 'that sounds like Clapton! (the vocals). I think it's Richard... (but it could be Rick - Pat - you'll know!). After I did a credit search (here, of course), I realised Clapton was not there, but that Derek and the Dominos era Clapton would be perfect on the song. (He'd also do a brilliant version now)...

So, your story was synchronous with my memory of musing... and answered a question I had: did Clapton ever perform it? the answer being yes, but disappointingly so...


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Posted by:

Dave H

Pat: Thanks for the info. If it was Clapton's worst gig ever that's really saying something. Even worse than the one in '76 that inspired the founding of Rock Against Racism in response?


Entered at Sat Feb 27 08:45:59 CET 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest (Just across the Street from Afganistan)

Subject: The Hole Truth & Nothing But The!!!!! ^%$#$$@%&^**&%$#

Son of a Bitch Joe!!! Yer pissed off about every thing. I thought you bin out water ski-ing. That Northern Kid is just puttin' yuz on about rousting all the residents outta the East side. Theyz still there. Some of 'em made big money on beer bottles from this Olie-impic dustup down hee-ay.

Doan listen to Steve on the statistical paticleears of this occasion. He's aluz on the down side. You know, he's so spiteful he always closes his eyes when him and his wife is makin' love. He just can't stand to see any body havin' a good time.

C'mon David, as cinaclie as he can be, you can't really believe he was takin' up with ol' Adolph. That was just another one of his ways of tryin' to piss off some one who's been dead so long, it don't even matter

This is starting to sound like a takeoff between Monty Python & Mel Brooks again. Even that Finlander took up with the North Sea Chinamen and got on his skis and picked up his scatter gun. This is getting serious......no doubt about it.

Lars you reckon you shoulda joined this "bi-athalon"? I hope that's not like "bi-sexual". Any ways, I figure if a Norwiegan could ski half the day, then thru' heavy breathing shoot an apple ofen another guys head, he should be able to shoot a deer with out fallen outta a tree......huh??

Gawd Damn........I hope this gets sorted out. I don't like to see David gettin' upset like this.....over!


Entered at Sat Feb 27 08:38:18 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I agree that things go better when we're discussing music, and have often said so. I just don't see the need to get huffed up and "deeply offended" whenever someone you don't get on with in a remote cyber way (you might be best of friends in a real situation, who knows?) says something that it's possible to read as offensive only by ditching all irony detectors from the brain.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 07:18:20 CET 2010 from s0106000a956fbfac.cq.shawcable.net (70.78.227.122)

Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: just beyond Hope, BC

Subject: Steve Ain't No Nazi Lover !

Clearly he was just being ironic or sarcastic or whatever and knows just as well as the next guy that old Sour Kraut Adolf was the biggest Deutsche Bag to ever put on laderhausen. And he's right on about Vancouver firing its indigent and drug addicts out of the city during the Olympics, as we get them sent here. They did it back in 86 too when they hosted Expo. Then they are just left here after the event ends too, to become our problem. This time they bought that hotel where that Jenkins dude hanged himself and set them up there. In fact Vancouver doesn't even need a special event to indulge in this practice as at other times they've often just stuck these unfortunate people on a bus with a one-way ticket to our town. Presto ! It's problem solved. Solved for Vancouver that is, not for these poor souls nor for our town as they then just become part of our social fabric.

Years ago, till they got caught in the act, Vancouver's garbage trucks would come out in the middle of the night to stick their city's garbage in our dump. Rather than deal with its social problems, I guess Vancouver just looks at these poor people as human garbage that they need to stick somewhere else too. NB.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 07:18:33 CET 2010 from adsl-75-5-77-126.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net (75.5.77.126)

Posted by:

Pat B

Charlie and dlew, congrats on the good news.

Clapton's show with the Band in Buffalo is widely regarded as his worst show ever. The boot is astounding with EC drunkenly cursing the crowd numerous times and the crowd giving it back. As to the photos of him playing with the boys, the story goes that after Garth wound up the Genetic Method, EC accompanied the other four onto the stage and performed Chest Fever with them. I believe it's the only time they ever closed a set with that song. Supposedly they had to carry EC off when they were finished.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 04:45:47 CET 2010 from cache-dtc-aa01.proxy.aol.com (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Hand Jive is a safe bet Dave


Entered at Sat Feb 27 02:53:03 CET 2010 from blk-222-220-109.eastlink.ca (24.222.220.109)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: Southside

Subject: Afghanistan

Been pissin me off too. People going around half naked saying 'hung' when they should have said 'hanged'. Been really pissin me off.

I also rediscovered Willie's 'Spirit' which (at least at Chez Joe's) was overwhelmed by the Lanois-produced 'Teatro'. Well, I was infatuated by the latter but have come to love the former. Quiet, reflective, under-produced (by Wm), Spanish geetar.

Been really pissin me off though, fuckin BCers playin golf and mowin lawns. Real men, in NY state, are shovelin snow and chopperin in to Rambles.

Me, I'm going to the Lodge, watch that game, suck that pig , bring it on home, gas that dog , say Hello.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 02:24:28 CET 2010 from 68-171-233-47.rdns.blackberry.net (68.171.233.47)

Posted by:

David P

(sigh) Hitler, Nazi ethnic cleansing, the Queen's toilet requirements -- Just what so many GB visitors old and new want to read about and discuss. Now that's irony.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 01:46:53 CET 2010 from c-71-62-141-173.hsd1.va.comcast.net (71.62.141.173)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

Dunc: Thanks for the tip on the Gillian Welch & David Rawlings version of "The Weight" with Old Crow Medicine Show. It's wonderful.


Entered at Sat Feb 27 01:36:19 CET 2010 from adsl-75-37-45-17.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net (75.37.45.17)

Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

On another note, the additional photos from the '74 Rich Stadium Band/Clapton show posted by Jan H reveal the Band bringing EC on stage for a tune. Wonder what they played together?


Entered at Sat Feb 27 00:03:47 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Irony

(sigh) This kind of thing keeps happening. Did you REALLY believe Steve was praising Hitler? It's blindingly obvious that Steve's references to "Hitler's good ideas" were ironic or sarcastic or whatever. Most would read that Steve was protesting about people being cleared from the areas of Olympic Games and other national extravaganzas and suggesting that the belief in such (inverted commas) good ideas (close inverted commas) is among the organizers.

I'm not commenting on whether that's true or not, because I don't know. But I can spot an ironic turn of phrase when I see one.

It's similar that when the Queen visits a town, brand new toilets will be installed in the public buildings in case she wants to use them, while around the corner the public ones are broken down and filthy. I'd venture the equivalent happens in most places when leaders visit.


Entered at Fri Feb 26 22:44:23 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Journalism Lesson

Steve: As you've once again reverted to an annoying, scattershot approach in your attempts at journalism in this guestbook, I suggest you focus, with more precision, on your words, which were accurately quoted in my previous post, rather than confusing the issue with further remarks.

I pointed out two sentences organized together in a brief paragraph. Thus, as written, the reader can infer that one of the "many good ideas" of "Hitler and Co.", as described by the writer, was referenced in the preceeding sentence.

It is those remarks I find offensive, as well as inappropriate in this forum. Further bumbling scattershot only compounds the wound.


Entered at Fri Feb 26 22:42:00 CET 2010 from vance009.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.186.13)

Posted by:

NB

Stevon, do you or SNN (Steve News Network) recall the story of Ryan Jenkins ? He was the dude who appeared on some deservedly obscure, possibly Mexican, reality show called "Meagan Wants A Millionaire". He then killed his Playboy Model/stripper wife and when the cops came after him he held up just beyond Hope, BC. in The Thunderbird Hotel, about a mile from me ? They eventually found him there but it was too late as he had hanged himself in his room, or as people insist on saying "hung" himself. I await your response and will then proceed to link this story to the Winter Olympics. NB


Entered at Fri Feb 26 22:35:39 CET 2010 from p4fcac46c.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.196.108)

Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Subject: $6,000,000,000.00 or $8,000,000,000.00

David don’t worry, he’s only cynical and you know what? underneath there is a just little Mickey Mouse! a friendly, nice, warm and carrying person, just takes some years to notice .


Entered at Fri Feb 26 22:17:18 CET 2010 from 21cust32.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.32)

Posted by:

Steve

Web: My link

What's your problem with it David? The same event occurred in your town in what was it 96? The homeless were bussed or trucked out of town and told if they returned they'd be jailed. China, Turin, you name the city it's part of the pre game preparations.

In Atlanta the police were mass printing arrest citations with the pre printed information , Male, African American, Homeless on the card with a blank space for the individuals name. According to the site I just checked out 9,000 were arrested. The link is to The Homelessness Case Study on the Atlanta Games.

Yes, David, there is a pre-games sporting event called Sweep The Streets Clean.

If those camera shots would move just a block east in Vancouver, you'd see Canada's poorest crime ridden neighborhood with junkies sitting on the streets shooting up. Those mountains sure are spectacular, though.

An economist I heard today has worked out the cost of these games for Canadian taxpayers.

It's going to cost $4,000.00 per taxpayer on average depending on where you live. I pay once federally, NB and Norm pay twice, federally and provincially, and those in Vancouver pay three times. A total of between $6,000,000,000.00 and $8,000,000,000.00 will be spent before all is said and done. You never get the full bill to those responsible have left town and are working on the next more than willing sucker.

I don't ever remember voting on this or any politician running on it as part of their platform but there you are, it's the Olympic cash cow and somebody's laughing all the way to the bank.

Good luck, Peter, we got the cheap winter version this time. In 76 we got the summer ones and it took 30 years to pay it off.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: A great song lasts forever

I first made contact with this website a few years ago when I was wondering if The Band's songs would last forever, become embedded into popular culture, part of the tradition etc. I think they will.

The different versions of The Weight by The Band now have easily over 2 million hits on youtube.

The version by The Grateful Dead and the Allmans is getting close to a quarter of a million hits.

The version by Gillian Welch and the Old Crow Medicine Show is getting close to a half million hits.

I love the song, but it was a long time before I saw it performed live. I saw a version by the Swedish band, the Willy Clay Band a couple of years ago. They are an excellent band and there is a 'mobile phone' posting of The Weight by The Willy Clay Band playing The Weight in Scandanavia on Youtube.

A truly great song. Everybody would agree to that?


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Posted by:

NB

Thanks Dee for those kind words about scenic BC (and Canada's skaters). Though as a town my wife and I would both take Lake Placid over Whistler any day of the week. Lake Placid has its own character, while Whistler is just Aspen North. They should've gone for something distinctively Canadian in the Whistler architecture, but blew the opportunity. NB


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: What the ?**?

"The Nazi (sic) were also the first to clean up the streets by removing the Romani and putting them in a camp, a pre-Olympic sporting event that is carried on til (sic) today by host countries. Actually Hitler and Co. had many good ideas that were incorporated into the Olympic movement."

In my opinion, one of the most inappropriate & offensive statements posted here by guess who. No medals awarded for that one.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: The People's Games

Fun facts about the Olympics. The Olympic Torch run that host countries organize to carry "The" Flame across the country to the Olympic site was started as a Nazi propaganda tool by Josef Gobbels.

The Nazi were also the first to clean up the streets by removing the Romani and putting them in a camp, a pre-Olympic sporting event that is carried on til today by host countries. Actually Hitler and Co. had many good ideas that were incorporated into the Olympic movement.

Canadian organizers unknowingly included a serial rapist and murderer in our torch run.

Col. Russell Williams commander of Canada's largest air base was one of the celebrity runners just a few weeks before he was arrested for the murder of a female soldier in Ontario.

Police forces across the country are now reopening unsolved murder cases of female victims on or near the many airbases Col Williams has served at. So far he's been linked to two of them.

Good to see McDonalds and Coke are so concerned with physical fitness they are once again the main sponsors of The Olympics. Ah yes, the fat cats always win.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Illka, that might the first post of yours that I'm sure I understood. And it was fucking hysterical :-).


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Mods vs. Rockers

Reporter: Do you consider yourselfs Mods or Rockers?

Ringo: Umm...neither...we're MOCKERS.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: I once played a gig with bikies

Standing nex tto them at the bar, I overheard the conversation: it was about the flipping cows (it sounded like that: it was a loud bar) at the tax office, who had flicking well made them pay 20% tax on their trucking superannuation payout....

It ain't what it used to be...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Mellow Yellow

Oh, we’ve all got so much more polite now we’ve mellowed a bit. I recall the Mods v Rockers riots in the 1960s on British beaches. As I had a Vespa scooter and a parka with a fur hood, I guess I was a mod, and certainly some of the rockers with oiled hair, oily skin and oiled bike chains in their hands were a fearsome sight. Now they’re the proprietors of second hand vinyl dealerships and we get along very well and laugh about 1964. It reminds me of visiting some friends in the 70s. She was a brilliant seamstress, and we hadn’t realized that one of her side lines was sewing and embroidering Hells Angels colours. That is until four bikes parked outside and these guys walked in. One had teeth filed in points. But as it turned out, they were sociable and affable (on that occasion … I wouldn’t go near them normally).


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Freezing hell

Subject: The gb

The gb, when it was started as a competitition by Levonistas and Robertsonians, was far more exciting than it is today. It was started originally as a way to maintain the skills used by hippies and rockers from the 60s. They didn't use these fancy little ActiveX rifles with Facebook scopes. The Levonistas and Robertsonians used their big friggin computers like hunting rifles and they didn't stop and kneel down to post.


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Posted by:

Steve

The biathlon, when it was started as a competition by Norwegian farmers and hunters, was far more exciting than it is today.

It was started originally as a way to maintain the skills used by Norwegian hunters.

They didn't use these fancy little target rifles with scopes.

The farmers and hunters used their big friggin cannon like hunting rifles and they didn't stop and kneel down to fire. The shooting was done while they skied down hill.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Winter sports

Jan, you have me thinking here. It’s pretty clear that the Brazilian and Malaysian efforts at winter sports will be hampered compared to Norway. I was amazed to see that the British gold (following previous silver and bronze) for the skeleton event was helped because we put £2.1 million into boosting the sport’s facilities. Wonderful that she won so convincingly, but why is a temperate country investing that much in an unusual sport, which given our climate, is a highly elite sport? What next? Grants to Prince Charles’ polo team?

But on Norway, yesterday I sat through Hedda Gabler by Henry Gibson, sorry that’s the Laugh-In guy, I meant Henrik Ibsen. It seems from the plot that shooting is a long established Norwegian occupation, Though well-done, yesterday’s play would have been greatly enlivened had they put Hedda on skis. Perhaps a ramp at the back of the stage, possibly a nice short ice-dancing skirt?


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: thanks as well, everyone...

bill m: don' worry - i'm putting together a course in which messrs helm robertson, danko, manuel and hudson might be mentioned, even though the course is scandinavian heavy metal ... also, Jan - do i detect a little bias in your analysis? Off to academic discipline for you! I might point out that australia, not known for snow (but we do have it ...) has won a couple of golds, including a girl who trains not far from where i live...


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: so actually

What you're saying Jan is you can't run from a tired out pissed off Norweigan who has a gun....that's good to know, 'cause I'm just researching a new contract for Steve, and he does a lot of cross country ski-ing.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: "Of Course" said Marty

.......add some a-ha and a pinch of that trance dj stuff to a Band base and a funny looking man at a pic-nic table might ask a drummer what you would call it - the drummer would look at him kinda funny and say "Biathlon".......


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Thank You All!

Thanks for all the good wishes. You all are the best.

JH: I was wondering what the secret might be of those Olympians from Norway. A sardine diet? Lots of music from The Band?

Joan: the curling/shot put combo gives new meaning to the term "breaking the ice," eh?

I did notice one of the Canadian commentators on the Olympics has an accent a lot like that of Rick Danko. I forget which sport, but maybe one of the ski guys.


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Posted by:

jh

Update/correction: Aforementioned country way up North, with a population the size of central Detroit City, just scored another olympic gold and is now sharing 2nd place with the US and Canada. For some reason, their Swedish and Finnish neighbours, despite having the same kind of climate and twice as many inhabitants, are far behind in the medal count -- the Swedish ice hockey team even got kicked out of the Olympics yesterday by some underdogs from Albania or wherever they came from }:-D


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Leon Russel - JJ Cale

Charlie Y/dlew: Enjoy the above link - it is a good one........congrats to both of you.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Charlie / Dlew

Congratulations to both of you on the new jobs. So glad things turned around so fast.

Charlie, I loved the idea of curling/shot put. Band music: Thee Stones That I Throw"


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: Olympic medals and such

And then we have this little country way up North in Europe, with only ~10% of _Canada_'s population, that is currently 4th on the 2010 medal ranking after Germany, USA and Canada...

Btw, that "combination sport where the guys ski for a while and then shoot rifles for a few minutes" is called biathlon. Some of the top biathlon "guys" (and girls) also hold world cup titles and olympic medals in traditional cross-country skiing (like the great biathloner and cross-country World Champion Lars Berger, who skied the third leg on Norway's silver-medal winning cross-country relay team yesterday).

Mastering the biathlon requires extreme dedication and unheard-of amounts of training. You must be a world-class skier and a world-class marksman. And then _still_ be a world-class marksman and hit those targets while standing totally exhausted on slippery skis, with your legs trembling and your heart racing at top speed. Did I mention which little country way up North is best at this...?


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NFY

Subject: snow

Got big flakes floating down, could really add up...we needed this: we had bare ground in my backyard this morning. It's that time of year.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Southern Fucking Canada. Don't forget it. . Winter sport in Brooklyn this winter is shoveling your friggin car out.


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Non-Music

Been watching Most of the Olympics so a belated thank you to BEG for the RR video.

Norm and NB, BC is simply bee-yoo-tee-full! thanks to TV I have enjoyed the visit!

Wisconsin has "hills" down which people ski. Cross-country is popular also. Must be their Scandinavian ancestry.

Thought the Canadian ice-dancers, Virtue and Moir were great! First time I've said that since Torvill & Dean.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Devious - Deviante

Now there you go again Bill.....the man has barely begun his job, and yer manipulating him awready.

OK.....I'm leaving.....got to take two ferries & trek down to the city country & collect my youngest daughter and newest grand daughter. I need to have that little baby laying on me while we lay by the fire for a couple nights.

One thing that we do know for sure......here. No matter what government was governing, what companies were doing right, treating their people right, in the land of milk & honey........it's a fer shore........Steve would still bitch & whine. I still say.......we should shoot'im.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: a mole down under?

dlew: A job at a 'music institute'? The type that might be tricked by unnamed GB plotters to put our Fab Five on heavy rotation? It's always best to get minds when they're young.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: As Usual???????

Well, as usual Steve, you make as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. The US doesn't have much interest in winter sports? You don't get out much do you? The amount of winter sports in that country just considering Colorado, alone or Lake Tahoe, not considering the part of the country where Zucker comes from. Ask him about their interest in winter sports. Silly? yer dumber than Joe's dog's ass.

Oh.......you were right about one thing Clara does have 6 medals. Canada, in ladies bob sled has the first medals ever, gold & silver yes-a-day man. De -ockey team sort of destroy dem der Russian guy......no?


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Posted by:

Steve

Congrats, Charlie, glad to hear you bounced back so quickly. It's hard to keep a good man down for long. Is Austin City Limits still happening? I haven't seen it on PBS recently?

Norm, as usual you're almost right. The promise of own the podium, which involved limiting the number of athletes who got money from the Canadian gov't but increasing the amount to those who got it, was to take more medals than any other country after coming second last time.

Comparing our medal count with the US according to population is silly. The US's main population centers can hardly be considered Nordic, and their interest in winter sports is hardly comparable to summer sports.

But if you want to compare us to another Nordic country how about the home of Man from Nordic Countries, Norway.

We have almost 7 times their population but are trailing them by 3 medals.

Clara Hughes, my favorite all time athlete in any sport, has 6 not 7 medals and had Canada's most impressive performance so far in any event in yesterday's 5000 women's long track speed skating final. She was the defending gold medal winner from Turin.

She knocked a second off the leading time on each of 12 consecutive trips around the track , set a new track record for the Richmond Oval and for a brief time moved into first place, finishing with the bronze.

As you mentioned she is also the only athlete from any country to win medals in both summer and winter Olympics.

But she really shines off the track as well with her work for Right To Play.

I heard her describe the physical pain that comes near the end of the 5000. She said by the last lap your whole body is burning from lactic acid buildup and it feels like you have pins sticking in your eyes. Ouch.


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Posted by:

joe j

Way to go Chuck, Dlew. The sport of curling will be all the better for this. "Hard, hard, harder", she cried.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Charlie good to hear, a new start, congrats & good luck!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Great news, Charlie. Delighted to hear it.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: great news charlie

i too lost my job in december and an old friend rang out of the blue and offered me a teaching job at a music institute. It's funny how life works out isn't it?


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Awesome news, Charlie. See you at the airport!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Charlie Y: Way to go! I doubt that curling's all that big in Austin yet, so if you're truly entrepreneurial you might organise a bonspiel there. For local flavour, consider replacing the granite stones with formed and frozen Texas steerburgers. Bound to be a winner.


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Posted by:

Deb

Congratulations on the new job, Charlie! Working with friends and regular visits to Austin, too -- it couldn't have happened to a nicer person.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Charlie Y - Congrats on the job - good luck and good for you.

I have a whacky fascination with Curling - it's like giant ice shuffleboard with brooms. I would like to see the shooting and skiing events but I never seem to witness them. I would like to view it, just to see something different.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Yeah Charlie! Since you value friends more than money.....The universe has rewarded you!

Right now no tix available for Levon's gig with Hiatt in Toronto. I've seen both in Toronto and both are great, great, great!

Springsteen joins Levon for two songs at the end of his set in '80's at Stone Pony. Do ya think Bumbles dropped by, Steve? I saw the other Jersey band and friends of Bruce there and wasn't impressed with the venue but loved the music! NB! Too bad the show wasn't in July!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Lookin' Up!

Congratulations Charlie, and good luck with the new deal. I hope it goes well for you. Yeah! Austin. That's where ol' Redd Volkaert lives,...and plays a lot. I envey you.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon Helm Brings His Ramble Across the U.S. and North of the Border to
Toronto, Calgary and Edmonton
2/23/2010 By Alex Hudson

Tour dates:
2/26 Monclair, NJ - The Wellmont Theatre
2/27 Atlantic City, NJ - Harrah's Resort
3/5 Ithica, NY - The State Theater
3/6 Woodstock, NY - Midnight Ramble
3/13 Woodstock, NY - Midnight Ramble
3/20 Woodstock, NY - Midnight Ramble
3/27 Woodstock, NY - Midnight Ramble
4/9 Westhampton, NY - The Westhampton Beach Performing Arts
4/22 Fayetteville, AR - The Arkansas Music Pavilion
4/24 Robinsonville, MS - Horseshoe Casino
4/25 New Orleans, LA - New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival
6/6 Hunter Mountain Hunter, NY - Mountain Jam VI
6/29 Toronto, ON - Massey Hall
7/21Vienna, VA - Filene Center @ Wolf Trap
7/24 Floyd, VA - Floydfest
7/29 Canandaigua, NY - Constellation Brands Marvin Sands Performing Arts Center
8/5 Calgary, AB - Southern Alberta Jubilee
8/6 Edmonton, AB - Edmonton Folk Festival


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Olympic Combos

Brien: curling is one of those sports that makes me wonder how anyone came up with the concept. The combination sport where the guys ski for a while and then shoot rifles for a few minutes, then ski some more made me think of a great combo for curling. Simply combine curling with the summer track sport of shot put. The guys get so fed up brushing in front of the rock that they pick it up and toss it as far as they can. Or not.

Joan: I love your "Across the Great Divide" suggestion as music for snowboarding.

I'm a little giddy right now as I just got a job offer I have accepted. After being out of work for the first time since 1980, my period of unemployment lasted just shy of one month. Whew--and the job will take me regularly to Austin, one of America's great music cities. Thanks for all the support from folks here. I hope anyone else looking for work has the same luck I had. I'd rather have friends than money (though both would be nice). It turned out to be an old friend who offered me the job, and two other old friends work for the company.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: Robbie/Marty

Another Robertson Scorcese article


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Medals - OH! and

Also "in perspective", USA has won 7 gold, Canada has won 6. 10 of the USA large # of medals are bronze.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: In Perspective

Brien! I'm not sure what Olympics Steve is watching, but it appears that "Owning the Podium" to him means winning EVERY medal.

Canada has won more medals than ever, and "in perspective" as we have less than 10% the population of the USA, it is quite an accomplishment, considering the amount of medals they have won, I believe 12 as of today.

Lest you don't know, one of our speed skate medal winners, has some oustanding distinctions. CLARA HUGHES has won 7 medals over four "winter" olympics" at age 37 she today won bronze in the 5000 meter speed skate. She is the only athlete EVER to win medals in both winter & summer olympics, having won 2 medals in cycling, in I believe 2006


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: rock and roll is a vicious game

Kevin J: Yes, those prog-rock days were dire at times. All discussions in grade 13 were about either Bowie and Genesis or Genesis and Bowie, except when sanity broke out temporarily and all talk turned to the "Before the Flood" tour. I did, however, have a chum who'd play rock 'n roll hangman with me at the back of the geography class. Our rules demanded the giveaway of one letter. His finest moment was guessing Nazz from just the A. Mine was guessing Blodwyn Pig from just the I, except that he punched me - which may well be why I remember the whole thing.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Steve - I don't know enough about the Olympics or the teams to predict why or why not things happen. Maybe the talent pool on this Canadian team isn't as deep as it was in Turino - I don't know. I watched the one Canadian Ski Cross guy crash while he had the Bronze sewn up. He said he went for it and that he wasn't skiing for a Bronze. Well he was right.., he didn't get it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, if your theory held water, geriatrics would win Olympic medals. And cows of course, in contributing to global warming.


Entered at Wed Feb 24 22:07:55 CET 2010 from 21cust41.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.41)

Posted by:

Steve

Brien, the problem with the lack of success so far with our all out assault on the podium is that at the last winter Olympics in Turin Italy we came second. We're not exactly just starting to get serious about winning medals. I think we're in 5th place at the moment after this new, more intense effort to prepare fewer athletes with more money.

In sports where many wins are by .03 seconds it takes great hubris to say you're going to win more medals and come first overall( own the podium).

I think in some sports farting during the race might provide just provide enough extra propulsion to give you a .03 second advantage.

maybe we should have invested in beans rather than mental coaches and better training facilities.

Man from Nordic Countries, as long as you don't make any anti-Canadian comments you should be safe but if you do have to go into hiding in Dubai, don't take your national team curling pants with you. You'll be dead as a curling stone in moments.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: The Faith

L. Cohen link above....For those not able to get to the library.........Bill M....your post reminded me of those "what do you see in the album cover" type conversations that my older brother used to have with his friends in the 70's......they were prog rockers so it figured....all I ever saw when I looked at my Bowie and Dylan albums were their F***ing faces...


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Music at the Olympics

Music for Snowboarders doing the HalfPipe : "Across The Great Divide"


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I've watched more of the Olympics this year than I have in many years. I don't watch much of the dancing/skating and my wife isn't a big fan of it either. Bring on Curling! Loved watching the Snowboard Cross and the Ski Cross. Bobsled and Luge have a hypnotoc quality that I can't turn off but at them same time, it just doesn't seem to translate well over tv. Not a Hockey guy but watch it here and there. Oh - the half pipe stuff was prety wild as well. Long Jump - not as interesting as I use to think as a kid. Also enjoyed the speed skating.

As for Canada's "Podium" mantra. Good for them. They seem to be bending under some of that pressure but hey, you have to start somewhere and in your own backyard is good. I've been rooting for them to do well in most cases.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: mandolevonine

Bill M: and simultaneous brilliant imitation of an old man's steps slowing as he ascends . . . .


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Posted by:

Kevin J

In the "everyone has different reasons for tuning in" department, my sister called last week to tell me that one of the skaters was skating to Stevie Ray Vaughn........I wasn't able to tune in and verify at the time but the thought of it made me smile.....imagine one of the lovelies in leotards skating to a Band song....Which one would they choose? "The Shape I'm in"

I am a liberal in most areas of life but a couple of things have bothered me in these Olympics - Canadian gold medal winners leaving their toques on as the national anthem is being played - 3 or 4 of the 6 have done so............and the habit of athletes of all countries to wrap themselves in their flag after winning....the flag inevitably ends up being tangled up and dragged on the ground.....rubs me the wrong way.......


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Where have all the flowers gone?

If Sebastian was around, I'd ask him if he'd ever heard his mother sing the "Quebec folk song" on which Leonard Cohen based his stunning "The Faith". I'd ask because the song seems to tie together "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" and "Rockin' Chair". I had to give it one last listen before returning the CD ("For Heather") to the library, and when it got to the line, "The blood, the soil, the faith" I thought of Virgil Caine and his brother - and then realised that all the empty graves could easily be meant to accommodate soldiers. But the talk of the sea so deep and the fact that it's clearly an end-of-life song brought "Rockin' Chair" to mind. I picture Virgil and Willie, rocking together on the front porch. More Bandish elements: Garth on accordion and a plunk-plunk guitar sound that's very much like Levon's mandolin work on "Rockin' Chair" - though without Levon's brilliant imitation of a clock winding down.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries (this week not Norway :-)

Subject: Sun Feb 21 20:46:47 CET 2010 from 21cust106.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.106)

Thanks for warning. I'll remember it if I visit Dubai!


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Olympic Skating Music

I've watched more of the winter olympics this year than I have in decades and noticed some degree of improvement in the music chosen by skaters for their routines. I particularly liked the version of "La Cumparsita" young Canadian Joannie Rochette chose for her emotional performance last night in Vancouver (she was the skater whose 55-year-old mother died suddenly this week).

I did some research on "La Cumparsita" and learned it was written by Gaeardo Matos Rodriguez of Uraguay in 1917 and has become one of the most famous tangos in history since then. The accordian on the version Ms. Rochette chose reminded me of Garth's work on the instrument to some degree, so that is a high compliment. It sure beats another skate to something from "Phantom of the Opera."


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: The Band

When Rick was "detained" in Japan around 13 years ago, The Band replaced him with the members of The Crowmatix. Mike Dunn took over the bass, Jimmy Eppard added his guitar, Aaron (Prof Louie) played some kind of keyboard, and Miss Marie helped out on vocals............I took my daughter Hannah to an afternoon show...beautiful venue with woodwork all over....Norwalk?...anyway, Randy told me he saw me in the crowd and I was surprised he could see me (usually the lights make it hard to see the audience)..."I got eyes," said Randy.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Rick's bass

Rod: I'm not sure, but maybe the electronics of the pickups in the Fender fretless that Rick used also had a different sensitivity than that of his Ampeg, allowing him to get the sound he wanted without having to attack the strings as hard.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Ricks hand

thats also why he is playing a Precision bass. He said he had to buy it specifically for that reason. Maybe the Ampeg was uncomfortable as I don't think the top was contoured.

The other interesting thing about that show is Robbie can be seen playing both the ROA Tele and the red strat.


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Posted by:

Joe H

Location: Pa.

Subject: guitar chords for If I should Fail

Does any one know where I can find the guitar chords and or music for If I shoild Fail?


Entered at Tue Feb 23 18:53:42 CET 2010 from 4207ds4-he.0.fullrate.dk (89.150.181.130)

Posted by:

cille

Web: My link

perfect info, thanks :)


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Tom Brokaw

Joan; I see that. If you search (on youtube) Tom Brokaw explains Canada to Americans it will come up.

The scenery shown in this video while he talks as well as events is very worth while Joan.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jersey Girl/ Norm

Jersey Girl, is that a good thing? BTW nice to see you around.

Norm, the link says Video not available.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Robbie's Shutter Island soundtrack

Newsweek magazine has a weekly feature called The Index, which highlights three items each in the categories of Politics, Business, and The Culture, and rates them on a scale from Awful to Awesome. This week's entries on The Culture front include Shutter Island. It rates slightly toward the Awesome end of the scale, but not because of the movie itself. The assessment: "too many plot twists and turns, perhaps, but the double-album soundtrack of 20th-century classical masters won't drive you insane."


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest (Another Country)
Web: My link

Subject: Regarding Canada & United States

This resent video from Tom Brokaw is quite interesting. Did I spell his name right? I better look.

Anyway this is very worth watching if you haven't seen it. Maybe it will settle some people down.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I never get any Viagra or other fountain of youth pecker-upper spam. Maybe I don't have the right cyberspace profile or something.

But since we're onto ball busting I have to ask if you know why someone thinks you might be a profitable target for erectile malfunction medication?

Kevin, 2 points awarded for being the first one here to admit to frequenting strip clubs, not that there's anything wrong with that. I used to be old enough to get into those places but I'm younger than that now.

Norm, we sang together again yesterday. I'm improving, you're not. There I left you lots of room to stick handle on that one.

Where ever, Bumbles, is I'm sure he has his sequin covered leotard and feather boa at his side during the Olympic figure skating events. What a sportsman!


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Names

For crazy names it's hard to beat that of the former NASCAR racecar driver Richard "Dick" Trickle. The only thing better would have been if he had driven for the racing team sponsored by Viagra, but that honor belongs to Mark Martin. Mr. Trickle was a colorful character, even by NASCAR standards. He was known to occasionally smoke a cigarette in his car during caution laps, facilitated by a hole drilled in his helmet visor.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Nicknames and teasing

Oh, I dunno. There was another kid in my class who was endowed with a strikingly large and down curved nose. When we were twelve, we had a French lesson about the fox and the crow. None of us understood “corbeau” (crow). The teacher, being a model of the British Imperial spirit, immediately pointed to the hapless lad’s nose and said “corbeau.’ For the next six years that boy was known as Corb or Corbeau. Now as that word came up in a French exam when we were sixteen, we were all grateful for it being so memorably recorded. It was an all-boys school.

It’s funny though. When we used to go to youth clubs and dances, girls would ask why we called this guy “Corbeau” and someone would explain. When he was eighteen he left town and none of us ever saw or heard of him again. I never understood why he lost touch with us.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What's in A Name??????

Balls?....At a little place up Vancouver Island, named Coal Harbour, I lived there in 1970 - 72. Contracted with boats for a man named Frank Hole. Frank named his son Harry! Can you imagine going around with that handle? Harry Hole is about 70 now. He has always been a little nuts, kind of a loose cannon.

In junior high school in Cloverdale, there was a guy in school whose name was Claude............Hopper. There's been a few like that.

I don't know why I let so many of you guys talk me out of it..........I still think we should get to shoot Steve........oh ......well


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Posted by:

Kevin J

......And look what happened to the British Empire.......I don't buy the case for teasing.....we had a classmate in elementary school that seemed to always have a snotty nose and she was teased by all of us........many years later I ran into her as she was taking coats at a strip club....she looked really down on her luck and I couldn't help wondering if the damage done early had affected the course of her life.........Funny though that given she was taking my coat to enter a pretty seedy bar she may well have been wondering the same thing about me! There was a movie made some years back about a guy who goes back to apologise to all the people he teased as a kid.....an interesting premise but I do not remember the name of it.......


Entered at Tue Feb 23 15:33:55 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just going through my Junk Mail folder for the day, deleting the usual 20 ads for Viagara and stuff, and one was from "Serge Hoskyns". I couldn't believe that such an adversarial combination had come together by chance, but apparently so. It was the standard pictorial blue tablet ad. I wondred if they had found a way of analysing posts (going back years) and choosing attention grabbing names!


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: remember . . . teasing can be dangerous

"We're just breakin' balls . . . ."


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, bollocks/ balls, for some reason seem to have an intimate relationship with teasing.

My American relatives' favorite term for teasing is ball busting. There's just something about the old testicular region that seems to equate with giving someone a hard time.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Teasing

Young Hippie: Teasing is character building. It’s what the British Empire was built on. There was a lad in my class called “Balls”. Everyone, including the teachers, called him “Bollocks.” Years later, as an adult, people would say, “Hello, Bollocks!” He developed a serious eye twitch, probably as a result, but he never killed anyone, and indeed ended up successfully and happily running an abbatoir.

Our present Minister for Education is called Balls. Imagine the strength of character he needs on a daily basis to address assemblies of schoolkids when he’s presented as “Mr Balls.” And then he always speaks bollocks anyway which makes it even harder for him.

There was another lad in my class called Pablo. His real name was Keith, but he picked his nails, he picked his nose, he picked scars on a continual basis. So some bright spark called him Pic-asso (because he probably did) and as this was rude, we changed it to Pablo. Mind you, I think he became a prison warder. Maybe I undermined my case there.

But teasing makes us stronger, and able to laugh it off gaily when some mouth-breather accuses one of wearing an “ascot” (a kind of instant sink heater).


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Howard Zinn

Howard Zinn passed away a few weeks ago. He was truly a great man.


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Posted by:

Young Hippie

Subject: Teasing People

It's almost a hobby for me, online or otherwise. I honestly mean no harm. I am sure there are others who do the same thing, also. Life's too short to take it too seriously.


Entered at Tue Feb 23 01:12:33 CET 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1279277517.dsl.bell.ca (76.64.57.205)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Rick Danko

The above link always makes me feel good......what a voice!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Some Band Covers.

"This week’s Stormy Monday celebrates the music of The Band – potentially the greatest music ever made. The covers begin with Ohio’s own ekoostik hookah killing Don’t Do It, a regular set opener for the Woodstock collective, but a tune that this group uses as a closer, and this version will make clear why. Next is the Zen Tricksters with WS Wolcott Medicine Show, a staple in their sets for years, although they’re the only band I know who covers the tune, and then a David Nelson led 4:20 All Stars performance of The Shape I’m In – that’s Bobby Vega busting out the bass lines.

Back in the fall, Wilco released a great version of I Shall Be Released with help from Fleet Foxes as part of Headcount’s voter registration campaign, and then the Phil Lesh Quintet gives a nice long take on Acadian Driftwood on spring tour in 2001. To close it all out is WSP with Chest Fever, but we’ve only just scratched the surface here and we’ll be back with a second installment before too long. As always, enjoy." Mix can be downloaded.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Captain hook

This is what Moulty said in the interview:

A lot of the Hawks - the Bob Dylan band - backed me up on 'Moulty.' I stayed in New York with my manager and road manager to try the 'Moulty' thing. I sent the rest of the band back to Boston. We were just going to try this thing, so we brought in Dylan's band, and we put it together. Just to try it. But it worked well, so they kept it. But as soon as the kids started yelling for 'Moulty' we had to learn the song.

That figures in with the December / Christmas thing … that the other Barbarians had gone or been sent home.
BUT according to Heylin (Bob Dylan Day By Day. OK, I know it's sad to own it), Levon leaves after the Washington show on 28th November. The Hawks record in NYC with Bobby Gregg on 30th November. Then 1st December they're in Seattle, returning to NYC on 20th December. They're back in the studio January 21st to 25th.That doesn't place the session though.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Moulty

As a small, independent label Laurie Records used the Columbia and RCA studios in NYC for their recording sessions. In late '65, the Hawks (minus Levon) were recording with Dylan at Columbia in New York for the early Blonde On Blonde sessions, before Dylan went to Nashville to resume recording. Is it possible that the guys ran into the Barbarians at the studio around that time and agreed to record with them?


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Posted by:

Bill M

It's generally a tricky business to figure out when a song was recorded. From what I could find with a bit of checking was that "Moulty" (Laurie 3326) first hit the charts in late February '66. Laurie 3323, a Gerry and the Pacemaker's hit, was released in November '65. So it seems likely to me that "Moulty" was recorded within two or three weeks either side of Christmas '65, presumably a time of some upheaval in the Dylan / Hawks troupe, what with Levon going, Bobby Gregg coming and going and Sandy Konikoff coming. Plus there was Christmas to attend to, meaning surely that at least some of the Hawks would have headed north to visit family (which is consistent with Toronto newspaper reports of the time). And when were arrangements for the upcoming tours of Australia and Europe nailed down?


Entered at Mon Feb 22 20:49:30 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: "I'll bring over my Fender.."

I should also add that Rick's injured hand also necessitated a switch in basses & picking style on the subsequent Band tour in the summer of '74. As he explained in the interview, he "...switched to a Fender fretless because on my Ampeg I had to use both fingerpicks and a flatpick, and it wore my hand out." With the Fender he just used a flatpick.

Peter: Speaking of the Barbarians, that great T.A.M.I show will finally be reissued on DVD, in a newly restored & complete version by Shout Factory on March 9th (in the U.S.).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

The other week we were mentioning The Barbarian's Are you a Boy or A Girl? which led me to get the album out and play "Moulty" the song The Band allegedly played on. It was recorded early in 1966, so we can eliminate Levon. In the interview on the site, Moulty, the one handed drummer says "an older gentleman played harp" (the most memorable bit) so that's not one of them. I was listening and wondered which of "some of The Band" were actually there. The very "splashy" drumming I assume is Mr. Moulty himself (the one handed drummer). There are tasty bits of organ throughout, so that's probably Garth. But I was listening to the bass and thinking, "Rick never played that distorted style anywhere else." Just a thought. Link to the interview / page.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Hand Jive

sadavid: According to a 1976 interview with GUITAR PLAYER magazine, Rick injured his right hand at the Plaza Hotel in New York City in late January 1974, during the middle of the tour with Dylan. Thinking it was a "bad sprain" at first, he later found out that it had been broken.


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Cast or not, does Rick not look like a bass player in the second photo - half spacing out and half in prayer.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: pictures from 1974

Please excuse my poor memory - did we decide why Rick has a cast on his arm?


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Posted by:

carmen

Subject: pictures from 1974

Great pictures (see whats new). The BAND members were the defination of cool back then. Compare them to the artists of today who do everything in their power to act & look cool, these guys just defined it!


Entered at Mon Feb 22 18:59:44 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Bill M: There's another David Wilcox, who's an American folk musician, a singer-writer/guitarist. He's based in Asheville, N.C. and began recording in the late 80's. That's probably why the other Mr. Wilcox added the "K", to avoid confusion.

Garth appeared on Hungry Chuck's eponymous 1972 album, playing sax on one of the cuts.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Leif: Welcome, and thanks for the report on King Harvest.

Peter V: If you're still tucking away additions to the Richard Bell discog, another one ended up in my hands yesterday - David K. Wilcox's "Rocking' the Boogie" CD (Stony Plain Records, 2002). Mostly it's a comp of boogie-heavy tracks recorded by the previously K-less David Wilcox for Capitol and Stony Plain between '83 and '00, but there is also several previously unreleased songs produced by Colin Linden between Y2K and 2002 - most with Bell on keyboards. No Stan Szelest, unfortunately, but Woodstock's Jeff Gutcheon is on one track from '83. (Wilcox had first come to public attention in the early '70s when he replaced Amos Garrett with the Tysons' Great Speckled Bird. So he wound up in Woodstock playing with like Cage, Gutcheon, Garrett, Mundi, Colegrove and Keith in aggregations like Hungry Chuck, Juke, Maria Muldaur's band, etc. Back in Toronto fronting a series of exceptionally popular groups, he even had a very young Colin Linden on second guitar circa '77.)


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: USA, USA, USA

For those US Olympic fans out there who missed the US/Canada hockey game last night you missed a gold medal caliber performance by US goalie Ryan Miller that ranks up there with what Ms Vonn and other US gold medal winners have accomplished.

Like in baseball where a dominating pitcher can singlehandedly take down a team that is considerably more talented than his own Miller was incredible and probably will carry the US team on his back much further than they would get without him.

I think more Canadian players than pucks ended up in the net behind Miller.


Entered at Mon Feb 22 16:26:15 CET 2010 from gw.skansen.se (130.242.205.30)

Posted by:

Leif

Location: Stockholm

Subject: King Harvest- swedish coverband

"Hi, yesterday I went to a bar here in Stockholm, and listened to a band playing The Band-covers, King Harvest. It was a great show, really talented and professional guys playing one and a half hour only The Band-songs, and still didn´t do Chest fever and Acadian driftwood. There are still and forever a big interest in The Bands music, among young people and us a little older.


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks for the clips. Did you notice how Robbie effortlessly transforms himself into and out of Dubya at 2:08-2:10 of "Ghost Dance"? Uncanny.

Lars: Look on the bright side. Whereas the rest of us have to come here to hang with a crowd of gutless degenerates and weirdos, you get room service!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Y Not!

Ringo also has an album out today, "Y Not".

The Ringo link, apart from him being one of the definitive rock drummers, and Levon being another one, might just be because Rick and Levon toured with him, resulting in an album and video.

Four of The Band play on “Sunshine Life For Me” from “Ringo” (sounding uncannily like a backing track for the Country Bear Vacation Hoedown at Walt Disney World). Robbie also plays on Snookeroo from Goodnight Vienna. They all played on the Kinky Friedman album, Lasso From El Paso.

Rick and Levon back Carl Perkins and Ringo on Honey Don’t! from the Perkins tribute album.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Johnny Cash is out here today … it garnered fulsome reviews. As the previous one had been advertised as the last one, there was a fair amount of cynical comments on "barrel scraping". In fact every review mentions the possibility and goes on to say "definitely not barrel scraping."

I had it in my hand this morning trying to decide whether to buy it, and didn't. This is not lack of trust as to the quality, but because I found the previous one too plain sad to listen to much.


Entered at Mon Feb 22 13:41:13 CET 2010 from 21cust122.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.122)

Posted by:

Steve

Landy, thanks for the prompt, I should have made the Band connection on my own. The easy connection of course is Harpo's tepid rendition of Ringo's, Help From My Friends. Ringo, as everyone knows holds an exalted position in Banddom as having made it on to the stage at The Last Waltz.

Ringo, also has many other very close Band connections, too many to go into but I think the link is firmly made.

Is your bet with The Glaswegian who's always half full for the medal round or the round robin portion of the Olympics?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Subject: Johnny Cash

A chapter comes to a close as the last Johnny Cash studio album is released this upcoming Friday. See link for story.


Entered at Mon Feb 22 04:26:54 CET 2010 from adsl-99-150-115-60.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net (99.150.115.60)

Posted by:

Adam Betley

Subject: Rick Danko - "Live At Dylan's Cafe"

I have a question I'm hoping someone can answer. The recent live Danko release seems to be a gray market/semi-bootleg. Is the sound quality any different than the bootlegs of that show? AND, are any royalties going to Rick's family for this release? Please let me know.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Olympic Skiing

I think Bode Miller looks just a wee bit like Levon. He doesn't have Levon's piercing eyes, but the rest of his face reminds me of Lee. Especially when he smiles.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

And what does this have to do with music and/or The Band?


Entered at Sun Feb 21 20:46:47 CET 2010 from 21cust106.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.106)

Posted by:

Steve

Our Neo Con prime minister who can usually be mistaken for the head of B'nia Brith Canada when he speaks on middle east affairs has gone one step further just in case someone out there is still not sure who he supports in all matters involving Israel.

Last week junior Foreign Affairs minister, Peter Kent, announced that from now on any attack on Israel will be considered an attack on Canada.

Hard to imagine what we could do in retaliation that Israel, a nuke armed power, couldn't do on it's own but the joke making the rounds after the announcement was that from now on any negative comments about Canada will be considered anti Semitic. Remember, y'alls been warned.


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Posted by:

Charlie

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Rabbit Ears

Peter: I was lucky enough to sell the entire Rabbit Ears line for several years during the period when they started out as book and cassette packages and then transitioned into book and CD sets. I think the recordings are still in print as CDs but the books are likely out of print now. Great stuff. Garth and Rick would have been perfect contributors to that series. Ry Cooder, Taj Mahal and Los Lobos did some of my favorites.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Another tiny clip from "Reel Injun" including Robbie. Sorry, but I forgot yesterday to include release date of this Doc. There will be a DVD as well.

Opens February 19th
Vancouver: Tinseltown
Toronto: AMC Toronto Life Square (Yonge & Dundas)
More cinemas to be announced soon.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Pecos Bill

Well, EP rather than half-album. it's just the four tracks, but there's more behind the narration!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rabbit ears

Charlie … you came to mind today. I just put those Windham Hill Rabbit Ears series of CD stories with music on my iPod for in car with the grandkids. You forget how wonderful some of the combinations are … Taj Mahal and Danny Glover on The Tar Baby; Ry Cooder and Robin Williams on Pecos Bill, Mark Isham and Sir John Geilgud on the Emperor's New Clothes; The Chieftains and Meryl Streep on the Tailor of Gloucester; Jack Nicholson and Bobby McFerrin on The Elephant's Child. The great thing is that you also get the music tracks separately and "Pecos Bill" is a very good "half album" by Ry Cooder.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Greenery

No greenery round here Norm unless you count the wife's GD geraniums. She's gone for a week visiting the boys and they will not be watered while she's gone but the GD plants will survive. They always do.

It's white outside but not as white as it could be. For the first time in my lifetime the sea hasn't frozen this year. In my youth you coulddrive a car from island to island in February. Things have changed.

Going to work all day and go to the Lodge tonight to watch the game. We'll have it on the big screen with the sound off and music playing. Might even have a jam. Maybe a pot of moose soup. Life's so good.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: just beyond Hope, BC

Subject: Olympic Fever

Ya, I hear ya Norm. While I haven't cut the lawn yet, I just got back from my fifth round of golf in the last three weeks. Even with Vancouver 90 minutes from here and Whistler only four hours away, this weather almost makes it hard for a guy to get too wrapped up in all these winter sports.

Mind you, in this screwed up province a guy always could golf and ski in the same day without too much trouble if you were schizophrenic enough to want to do so. Not me of course, as I'm considered "a picture of mental health". Or was that "the poster child for mental illness" ? Oh well, one or the other. NB


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Who needs to sniff anything?

Young Hippy- You leave that poor girl alone; don't you think she's been through enough?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Reel Injun: Maybe let's try dancing without the wolves
Vanessa Farquharson, National Post
Published: Thursday, February 18, 2010

Photo of Robbie and Director Neil Diamond


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Posted by:

Young Hippie

Subject: Lars

What have you been sniffing? No, please don't tell me. Who the heck is this Karen you speak of? Is she invisible(at least on here)?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Another connection Robbie has with Neil Diamond.....but he's another Neil Diamond.

"Reel Injun"...."Cree filmmaker Neil Diamond takes an entertaining and insightful look at the Hollywood Indian, exploring the portrayal of North American Natives through a century of cinema."

"With clips from hundreds of classic and recent films, and candid interviews with celebrated Native and non-Native directors, writers, actors and activists, including Clint Eastwood, ROBBIE Robertson, Sacheen Littlefeather, John Trudell and Russell Means, Reel Injun traces the evolution of cinema’s depiction of Native people from the silent film era to present day."


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Spring time..............

Joe......HEY JOE!!!...and Lars.......and all the resta youz guys. Now mark this day on yer calander Joe. I just had ta mow my lawn. Last few daze it's growing like crazy. Be about 14 degrees here this afternoon.

Rhubarbs away up, rasp berries are startin' to make big leaves......here in the land a plenty.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Italy, Regionale Di Agrigento

"Ghost Dance" Live
Robbie Robertson
Red Road Ensemble
Coolidge
Ulali

Special Guests:
John Trudell (and bad dog)
Buffy Sainte Marie
American Indian Dance Theatre


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Utah Phillips

Thanks Peter:I knew nothing of Ani de Franco.

Thanks Bob W. Hope your son is well. I think the two Utah Phillips' songs I own are really good.

Talking of folk music, I'm away to a Burns Supper tonight, where with my friends, I'll hear poetry recitations, listen to great songs, listen to witty speeches, eat Scotch broth, followed by haggis, followed by steak pie and trimmings, washed down by malt whisky. We'll finish by singing 'Auld Lang Syne'.

If any of you were here, you'd be most welcome to come.

Not much of a Band link, but I know Dylan knows his Burns.


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Posted by:

Ray

Subject: Live Tunes w/ PLAN B at the Southbound Cafe (1 Railroad Ave - Pearl River, NY 10965) Saturday February 20th at 9:00PM

The Southbound Cafe in Pearl River, NY presents a Rockin' Evening with “Plan B.” Come on and listen to “Plan B” belt out tunes that have not been “Over-Played" on the airwaves or "Worn Out" in rock clubs!

Enjoy songs from the Band, Cracker, the Velvet Underground, Patti Smith, Dramarama, the Plimsouls, the John Butler Trio, ZZ Top, the Records, the Lemonheads, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Status Quo, the Pretenders, the Police, and more.

Enjoy the cool vibe and friendly atmosphere at the Southbound Cafe while you hang out, dine, or just plain unwind with the Hudson Valley's finest pint of Guinness and a cool selection of songs from “Plan B.”

Come one, come all... A good time is guaranteed!

Who, What, Where, and When - PLAN B at the Southbound Cafe (1 Railroad Ave - Pearl River, NY 10965) Saturday February 20th at 9:00PM


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Here's a review from someone who saw it differently.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Subject: Review of Beck and Clapton at MSG in NYC

The link is to a review of the Beck/Clapton show at Madison Square Garden last night.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Bull Goose Loony

WESTIE- Thanks, Norm. You know, I cooked supper for my wife tonight. I couldn't help but think about how you're always opening the car door for Susan....and being such a gentleman... so I figured, "This is what Norm would do."

We all put up a front at times. I remember Rick used to threaten people with his bizarre "I'll bite your lips off ..."

...but he was just spoofing. Hell, the truth is I don't even own an asylum, much less run one.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: One flew over..........

Gawd Damn Lars!.........you're starting to sound a lot like nurse Ratchett.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Subject: Dunc - Utah Phillips

Dunc, I thought you might find this piece interesting. Utah Phillips was a brilliant guy. Enjoy.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Utah Phillips did some interesting work with Ani di Franco (who's always worth checking out!)


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The secure area of the asylum

Subject: This is all about The Band????

Bill and other detractors- You don't know what it's like to come back from the mall and see all of these characters hanging around. I got Rev Billy wanting a ride into town, Generals George S. Patton,Jr. and John Wayne and they engage in one big pissing contest all day long; I got Karen and she's got a dirty mind and she wants to talk smut all of the time; and today I had a little bald intellectual shipped to me and I don't even know what he really has up his sleeve. I got him chained to the wall naked. Karen keeps looking at him and now I gotta worry about THAT. I'm back. Just had to get the shotgun out of Charlie's hands. I gave him a long walking stick and sent him out to part the snows around my wiffleball field.

Fortunately, all of this gets sorted out when my wife gets home, because she won't take their crap and they all run into the attic until the coast is clear.


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Posted by:

Steve

Ah, Chuck Heston, god to the white supremacists gun toting crowd and spokesman for the armed faction of the Republican party.

Which reminds me, did he die with his gun in his hands and if so did someone pry it loose? That was his last wish wasn't it?

Did Chuck ever explain what he meant when he said that he hadn't changed, the Democratic Party had. Wow, everyone changed but him. He really was one of a kind, or maybe portraying a progressive white male was the most challenging role of his career.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Shared Olympic Underwear

Bill M, don't worry, and if there is only just a tiny little Band connection there, I’ll rattle your cow bell.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town

David P:Played the album last night and read the credits. Another link with the Band is that 'Green Rolling Hills' was writen by Utah Phillips, who I think also wrote 'Rock Salt and Nails', which I think is great when sung by two of my musical heroes, Levon and John Martyn.

I don't know anything about Utah Phillips, but I think both these songs are great. Does anybody play a Utah Phillips collection?


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Posted by:

Bill M

A miracle, folks: Lars is back at Stage 2 - and still some question the existence of God!


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Posted by:

George S. Patton

Location: First Cav

Subject: The Olympics

Let me see if I got this straight...we're supposed to go up against the whole world, God...and MONGO in these Olympics?

My mom's voice, talking to me again:...."Son, an army without profanity couldn't fight it's way out of a piss-soaked paper bag."

Damn straight, Ma....but never mind that shit, here comes MONGO!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Remember the call to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and render unto God that which is God's. If that's the framework we're working with, then I'd suggest that Caesar gets the medals, leaving us to conclude he's American. (God's identity is still up in the air.)

In other news, I heard John Lennon singing "Watching The Wheels" this morning. Who's doing the Levonian drumming, and who's borrowing the majestic piano chords and progressions from "The Weight"? I've been listening to Garth's magnificent "The Sea to the North" CD of late, and he borrows those chords for "The Breakers", but he was borrowing from himself.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: God????????? & A seagull maybe Johnathan Livingston

I told you guys before. God isn't dead.....he just doesn't want to get involved.

Joe!....did you train that thief seagull over there that keeps going in that convienence store and stealing the Doritos?? I just got sent a movie of him. Seems it's brought the manager a lot of business. People think he's so funny they even started paying for his Doritos. The manager says, "He always takes the same kind, and then shares them with his mates, BUT this is Newfoundland so if that seagull starts grabbing a six pack to go with his Doritos, that'll be the end of him"!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Charlton Heston was American. However, if she's NOT Charlton Heston, then she should have a British accent.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Always Take Questions Of Divinity To The Mountain

In quite a timely fashion God has sent The Answer to the GB's question du jour. Lyndon Rush, driver of Canada's 2 man bobsled and a self confessed Christian says he talks to God everyday and more frequently on Olympic and World Cup race days.

Now, that alone wouldn't satisfy to answer the question but in his interview he went on to say that you can't win at this sport unless God chooses you to do so. Since someone always wins the gold medal in bobsled, I think we have our answer.

Bill, the Olympic medal count should answer your question; God, American or British?


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Posted by:

Tiny Monster

Location: Out-There

Subject: ... God is a concept ? ...

...Shit; "God is dead."... ??? ...

... When did this happen and ...

... "Where, do we go from here ? ...

... "na-na-na-na-na-na-naah ..."



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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Rick & Richard at O'Toole's Tavern, 12/85

I listened to the "Live at O'Toole's Tavern" CD for the first time today and there are some great moments there, just too little music. Some of the banter is pretty funny, and one comment by Rick--asking the crowd to LISTEN before Richard sings "She Knows"--is damn poignant. Apparently it was one of those typical bar scenes amounting to pearls before swine (sorry if anyone here was in the audience and listening rather than chattering). How anyone can pay to see two legends and sit there talking is something I'll never understand.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Authorized Version is the British one approved by the artists, not the apocryphal ones butchered by Capitol.


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Excellent points re the holy canon. Unfortunately, as is always the case in these things, there is a raging dispute over whether the first five albums that comprise the torah or pentateuch are the English ones or the American ones. Bubbling beneath the surface is the even bigger question: is god, if (still) alive, an Englishman or an American?


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Posted by:

Bill M

As well they should, it seems to me. My cynical side suspects that Hawkins, who'll say anything to get press, realised that he could hardly expect to successfully repeat his I'm-dying yarn of some years ago. And short of dying himself - and what's the point of doing that if you're not going to be around for the fuss? - the only answer is to kill off some longtime pal who'll understand. (And they do go way way back - farther back than Gord drumming for Ronnie every Monday in the '70s, farther back than Ronnie having a huge hit with "Home From The Forest, and farther back than Lightfoot's legendary song about Ronnie buying his first Rolls.)


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Posted by:

David P

I should have proof-read / spell-checked my previous post and been more clear on a few points. It should have read "what modern theologians at the time were debating".

Yes, the music of the Beatles is still receiving play, long after the group itself splintered apart into its various denominations. However, the original Queen Elizabeth version of the recorded music has received many translations, most recently into the Modern Digital version, as well as the diluted secularization in commercial advestisements. And then there are the Yellow Dog bootlegs from the Dead Abbey Road Gnostic scrolls.

The Band link is that two TIME covers I mentioned both posed questions that are subject to debate -- "Is God Dead?" and were the members of The Band truly disciples of "The New Sound of Country Rock"?

Dunc: "Quarter Moon In A Ten Cent Town" contains a Rick rarity, in that he not only sings harmony, but also plays a Cajun-style fiddle.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: fiction stranger than fiction

Reports of Gordon Lightfoot's demise exaggerated.

Finger of blame points at one R. Hawkins for spreading The Rumour.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Don't have a calf about it!

Hmmmmmmm.....I wonder what those Norweigan girls wear when they're holding a camera taking pictures.

I got to go and do some more maintainance on my tug. Got the radiator off the genset cleaning the built up dust and crap that is plugging it up. Gawd I hate this shit! Any one who would be a mechanic on purpose must hate hisself...


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Posted by:

Bill M

Norbert: Do let us know what the Norwegian women are wearing. It's all harmless fun when all they're holding is a round chunk of granite that's too heavy to throw far, but being confronted by someone in clown pants carrying a loaded gun is something else entirely.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I was in a shop yesterday of the boutique variety waiting for Mrs V, and the excellent sound system played The Beatles "A Day In The Life Of" followed directly by Bob Marley's "No Woman No Cry". I thought, no, it actually never got better than that. As good, but never better.


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Posted by:

Steve

David, The Beatles are still around today. Turn on the radio any day and there they are. John was talking popularity. So you'd have to compare their popularity relative to each other today vs the 60's. Youngins today, musicians or not, know The Beatles and a surprising amount of their music.

Sir Paul came to Quebec City last year and drew a crowd that rivals the Easter day crowds at The Vatican and Sir Paul can draw that kind of crowd for an away game, no home church advantage.

More importantly, in name recognition where true popularity can be measured I'm betting more people can name a Beatle than can name the Pope.

Then of course we could compare record sales from last year if you want to go down the commercial route.

Norm, it's calving season here, once again, which means in the barn at 5am. I can't stay up past 11.

Kevin, yes downhill skiing is the gold standard for the Winter Games in so many ways, but for pure viewing pleasure the halfpipe is it.

It's too hard to focus in on what the skiers are doing exactly. You never get more than a 2 second look at them at any one time. You see them and before you can zero in on how they're making a turn they're gone and you're looking at them 500 feet further down the course.

Lindsey Vonn, is quite the skier, nobody seems to be in the same league as her at this point.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: John Martyn, Danny Thompson

This is a good clip of John Martyn and Danny Thompson.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Survived Edinburgh with the grandkids. The Royal Mile with the castle at one end and the palace at the other is truly one of the great European streets.

Peter:Thanks. I'm going to get that album. Danny Thompson hosted a January concert in tribute to John Martyn at Glasgow's Celtic Connections recently, but I couldn't make it. Recently played the 'Pentangle anthology' and 'John Martyn, Danny Thompson live at the Brewery Arts Centre'.

Claire and Ari:Thanks for article

David P:Thanks for info on Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town. Didn't know our boys were on it. Not played it for a couple of years, but will do. Good album.

Bill M:Thanks. I think I saw those pants on the Woodstock film.

Steve:Thanks. I bet Robbie's new album is brilliant.

First record I bought was Mr Tambourine Man by the Byrds(single). Played the album this week. Great stuff.


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Posted by:

Bill M

One of the interesting things about the "God is Dead" theory is that it's a theory. Of course there's always room for discussion of distinctions between dead, undead, not alive, never alive, never was ... (Hairsplitting will be with us always, but I'm only here for a short time.)

By the way, I finally got around to watching the Classic Album DVD devoted to big brown. I must've gotten it three Christmases ago when we were player-less for a time and then came around to a conviction that I'd watched it - even though I hadn't. Very interesting and illuminating. Great to see Levon, Robbie and John Simon isolate tracks and dissect what was happening with this beat or that riff. Neat also to see Barney Hoskyns and Bernie Taupin opine on key questions and then have Greil Marcus say, essentially, "hogwash" and offer up convincing counterpoints like "Canada's not Belgium". Rick, Garth, Don Was, EC and George Harrison also all rate a fair bit of camera time, and Jonathan Taplin's there too, talking about how hearing TNTDODD the first time caused him a) to tear us and b) to for the first time see 'the other side'. (I guess he hadn't read "All Quiet on the Western Front".)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Confused?

David, coming in to the GB replete from an excellent (vegetarian) dinner with wine, I’m finding it hard to follow the threads today. OK, Nietzsche and the current pope are or were both Nazis at heart, Benedict having re-admitted a holocaust denier, Richard Williamson, back to the faith after he’d been excommunicated by his non-Nazi predecessors. That brings us to other evil people, like Mel Gibson. I could follow that link.

But where does The Band being the “New Sound of Country Rock” link up to all that? Is “country rock” inherently fascist? I never thought so. What has this Thomas Alzheimer as a professor of religion from Emory University got to do with it? I’m totally lost. Maybe your red wine with lunch was richer than mine with dinner. But as the graffiti reads:

“Nietzsche IS dead,” signed God.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Subject: Sex & Olympic’s

For me nr 1, till now, Women's individual biathlon; tight suits, sweat, modern shades, guns (love it).


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The State of Lennon and Revolution

As the reporter who interviewed John Lennon in 1966 noted, judging from his library, he was a well-read man. For a year or so, at the time of that interview, another controversy was also brewing involving the theory of radical theologists that "God is dead". This theme was condensed from an early thesis from the philosopher Fredrich Nietzsche, not to be confused with the musician, composer, arranger & producer Jack Nitzsche.

Among the noted proponents of this theory was Thomas Altizer, who was a professor of religion at Emory University here in Atlanta. The April 8, 1966 issue of TIME magazine featured a cover story on this "movement". That cover consisted only of the text, in red letters, "Is God Dead?", against an all-black background.

So perhaps John Lennon was ahead of the curve concerning what modern theologists at the time were debating when he was quoted on the subject of Jesus. Further proof that he was indeed a well-read man on many, if not all, seasons & subjects.

Band connection: Just under four years after TIME's "Is God Dead?" issue, the magazine featured a portrait of The Band on its cover under the headline "The New Sound of Country Rock".


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Mmm Hmm Him

The search for rare vynil: Mmm Hmm Him


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Posted by:

Kevin J

David P: Well said and good to see that full quote as I had only remembered the “bigger than Jesus” part which is often repeated……Part of Lennon’s genius was his ability to make those big/universal statements….All you need is love…Give Peace a chance, etc………….we really were deprived of a lot when he was assassinated………

Shaun White: Funniest part of his 2nd run was hearing he and his coach trading F bombs on live TV at the starting blocks…..sports section today reports that the carrot-top lookalike made $10 Million last year! I was mildly impressed with him but felt that the US female skier competing in the real signature event of any Winter Games – the Downhill – was the star performer on the day……..


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: In '66 Jesus was just all right with Lennon

"Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that; I'm right and I'll be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first -- rock 'n' roll or Christianity. Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me."
--John Lennon

When those remarks were first published in Britian in March 1966, they drew little notice. Months later, in August, just a week after the release of "Revolver", the quote was reprinted in an American teen magazine and provoked a firestorm reaction directed against Mr. Lennon and the Beatles.

Whether Lennon was "proved right" is definitely subject to heated debate, but the Beatles were the first to go, as rock 'n' roll and Christianity are still around today. And forgiveness, a basic tenet of Christian faith, seems to still be going strong, as the official newspaper of the Papacy has chosen "Revolver" as the #1 album on their "modest guide...on the road to good music." Perhaps if John Lennon were alive today, he wouldn't resist remarking that maybe one day the Papal newspaper would deem it proper to add females to the list, as solo recording artists and priests, rather than just in supporting roles.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Olympics

I loved watching the Men's Half Pipe.There were some great performances (How do they do that?)The most exciting was Shaun White. He was incredible! He didn't have to ski that last run, but everyone wanted to see that last"trick" so he took a 'victory lap" and wowed us all. Way to go!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Slumber Party

You gotta quit goin' to bed at 21:45 gawd damn it!


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Posted by:

Steve

Norm, I haven't read the article and probably won't. Forbes somehow just doesn't say , Steve. Don't you agree. But from the title of the article it might seem like it's a cautionary tale. Remember, the 20th century was The American century( 1940 -1980) and look where they're at.

But we might not be able to screw up as badly economically as The US since a Canadian century is measured in metric time and will only last 2.2 weeks in American Standard Time. How much can we possibly fuck up in 2.2 weeks?

What a great skate by Shani Davis, that guy is power and stamina. I'm off to try and catch a repeat of Shaun White's final run. His first ones were great but Marge tells me he blew everyone away with his final one which was run well past my bed time.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Don't Hold us Back!

Interesting article in the news this morning. "The Canadian Century". The 21 century belongs to Canada. Look in Forbes.com.

Steve needs to read this. Of course he will just twist it around to suit his negative twisted needs anyway. We should invite the world here, sit back and serve them tea, and make sure that every other country gets at least two gold medals each, just for showing up, so that as good socialists they all go home happy and there are no losers but us.



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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Stuff

Zzzz- I'm enjoying these Olympics, I generally do when they come around. The only sport I can't seem to get interested in is curling. And that's because I don't understand it. It's great to watch somebody put forth an effort that is the pinnacle of their lifetime of work...I gotta admit that sometimes I feel sorry for an athlete who falls down during a relatively easy part, like a skater....but I guess I can stand it if they can.

Rando is playing at Killian's Brewery (Kingston, NY) tomorrow (Fri) with the Organix - got it straight from the former manager of The Band. I'd love to join in but I have to pass this time.

I was just thinking about Randy yesterday. I remember that some shows the boys would get switching instruments and Rando would wind up out front with a bass. Rick would play guitar. Levon stayed at his kit. Rick and Randy used to share a mic during the chorus of "Long Black Veil." It's been a long time.


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Posted by:

Zzzz

I hear ya sadavid... They should do sledding off-track on a hill like we did as kids... maybe even on Red Flyers... I liked the spirit portrayed by the piece on the Jamaican Bobsled team... and that cart they used to train... and hockey was meant to be played outside... like basketball and football... Make it more for the kids instead of the corporations... Having said that, man-o-man... last night was awesome with Gold from Shaun, Lynsey and Shani... Great stories!...


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: olympic dreams

the _Globe_'s John Doyle expresses well what I feel about the O'Games: "Make it less about winning gold, less about "owning" anything other than the delight of movement and flight." Typical Irish sentimentalism . . . . His column today is equally perspicacious on the subject of the women's curling: "What’s hotter than a woman yelling ‘harder?’"


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Posted by:

Steve

NB, are you talking about the Pope gathering those Irish Bishops around him for a little talk about sex with young boys? I wasn't aware drugs and rock and roll were also on the agenda, thanks for staying on top of that one.


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Posted by:

NB

Web: My link

Subject: Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll (According to some high-ranking churches)

dlewsional from downunder:

I wasn't the least bit surprised about the Vatican giving advice regarding rock and roll music, as per your link. After all, the Pope couldn't just sit still after The Mormons came out offering advice for better sex. (See my link). In the same vein, supposedly those Amish dudes will be publishing something shortly regarding like, which drugs man we should all be using.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Marty & Robbie

Kevin J: Seeing those two names together -- Marty Robbie -- conjures up the possibility of a song called "The Mean Streets of Laredo" :-)


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Coming Second

Bill: That's probably the healthiest and sanest attitude for both athlete and spectator to adopt. Mind you, if you finish second and everyone else finishes in a tie for first, that's a whole other kind of deal. I don't know why but that kind of second place finish can sometimes feel just about as bad as finishing dead last. Tiger Woods always considered second place to merely be "first loser", ironically a designation in which he is now regarded as having world class status.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Re the Olympics, a big turning point for me was watching Greg Joy at the '76 Olympics. I realised that if HE could be so happy with NOT winning (he got silver), who was I to be disappointed?


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Posted by:

Steve

I'm not cheering against anyone, Kevin, just not emotionally attached to any country, just individual athletes. I can enjoy a great performance by anyone from anywhere.

The whole Canadian Olympic campaign has felt like sporting jingoism. It's left the same taste in my mouth as a Tim Horton's commercial.

My favorite so far has been Maelle Ricker. I love the snowboarding events, all of them.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Marty & Robbie

Claire…..thanks for the article on Marty and Robbie……..every time I read something like that I can’t help thinking of the scene in Lonesome Dove when Clara (Angelica Huston) chastises Woodrow F Call for taking the best of Augustus McCrae and leaving her with nothing but memories from long ago………I wonder – especially in the years before LC – if Levon sometimes felt the same way about Scorsese’s hold on Robbie……

Olympics: Steve….as bad as it has been ( starting off with having a 15 year old do an unrecognizable arrangement of our National Anthem ), the death of a luger, and the embarrassing “Own the Podium” campaign – I can not go so far as to cheer against Canada….I would like to see the hockey team win gold…..the party that broke out on Yonge street minutes after the 2002 gold in Salt Lake City was without question the best I have ever witnessed……some of the best images I have ever seen and I have seen a lot……..not at all like those silly/always turning violent demonstrations that break out in cities that win championships in professional leagues – rather just a wild spontaneous party that was great fun!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sir Paul was on TV bemoaning the loss of Abbey Road last night and hoping that someone would rescue it. Maybe he will. Trouble is property values for a building that size in St. John's Wood are astronomical. I'd guess it's a "listed" building though so demolition would be out.


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Posted by:

David P

The Capitol Tower also is the site of Capitol's famous Studios A & B, along with their legendary echo chambers.


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Posted by:

David P

R.I.P. Dale Hawkins

"Crying Heart Blues" is an example of country soul, as the country duo Johnnie and Jack, who were known for hillbilly music with a rhumba beat, first had a hit with the song. Bobby Charles, much to the chagrin of Robbie & Marty, chose to perform Johnnie and Jack's "Down South In New Orleans" at The Last Waltz, rather than one of his own signature tunes.

It was just a few years ago that EMI sold another landmark of the recording industry, the Capitol Records Tower, a/k/a The House That Nat (King Cole) Built, near Hollywood & Vine in L.A.


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Posted by:

Ari

Web: My link

Article on Scorsese and Robertson.


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Posted by:

Deb

Bill M., I don't know the first thing about curling, but those pants look like somebody lost a bet.


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Posted by:

Steve

Dunc and Landy, how about handicapping the two horses in the Robbie Races. Does the CD have the inside track? Will it beat Sebastian to the post?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: jeepers creepers, where'd you get those pants?

dlew: Given your obvious all-access pass, would you check into the rumour that his real holiness's response, when he spotted the Byrds' "Jesus Is Just Alright With Me" on the list of nominees, was a totally dismissive "Vhat iss diss? Jesus is not chust alright, he iss ubermensch!"

Dunc: Belated agreement that "Crying Heart Blues" provides ample proof of Rick Danko's greatness as a soul singer. And, re curling, what do you have to day about our webmaster's team's Olympic pants?


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Posted by:

Claire

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie and Marty

An interesting look at the relationship between two famous, and favorite, collaborators.


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Posted by:

his holiness dlew919

Location: No jokesville
Web: My link

Subject: The Vatican oks some rock albums...

See link...


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Posted by:

Carmen

Brian Sz- thanks for getting back to me on my question. Seems like a long wait for the RR cd. I thought it was close to complete a while back.


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Posted by:

Dave H

Web: My link

Subject: and another end of an era

Sad news: Dale Hawkins of "Susie Q" fame (and cousin to Ronnie Hawkins) has died aged 73.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Web: My link

In case there was any doubt about the financial state of the music business...looks like EMI is putting Abbey Road Studios up for sale.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Defying Gravity

Emmylou Harris covered "Defying Gravity" on her excellent 1978 album "Quarter Moon In A Ten Cent Town", along with another song from Mr. Winchester, "My Songbird". This album is also notable for Band fans, as Rick & Garth appear on her rousing version of Rodney Crowell's "Leaving Louisiana In The Broad Daylight". An essential album for Emmylou and Band fans alike.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Done. The Max Webster contest with you. Men's curling with Dunc. By the way, Jersey Girl, still got your back. Abby, if you still lurk, bet my pal Shaun. He's wintering in New Orleans (shaky Band connection)and riding up a storm.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the Max Wabster Challenge

Okie-dokie. "Coming Off The Moon" is at youtube.com/watch?v=2ogv8NZaIng and "A Million Vacations" is at youtube.com/watch?v=HCRcFNATZTQ


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

At least when I throw a slushball, I give a heads up. Bill, the fair thing to do would be to once again, post "A Million Vacations" and let the people decide. As I recall, Joe J. voted for AMV the last time as well.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Charlie Y: And then there's Max Webster's "Gravity (Forget That Fear)". Amazing how well it ties into the Olympics - see link. My favourite MW song, though not Landmark's, is at youtube.com/watch?v=UJlWfL6guhw


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: "Defying Gravity"

"Defying Gravity" is also the name of a fine song by Jesse Winchester, an American by birth who spent over three decades living in Canada.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Yippee!!!

Tonight 8 Pm,. Jimmy V ivino at the Parkside Lounge NYC


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, that's one way of looking at it but actually I have my posts til 2020 already done, I just accidentally sent one from the 2016 box.

Kevin, I'm watching the Olympics a little differently than I usually do.

I was against the Buy The Podium program from the start and am underdog supporter by nature.

Once the decision was made to pour more money into fewer athletes with the goal of winning as many medals as possible and to downgrade the whole olympic participation spirit I put away my Canadian flag and brought out my Eddie The Eagle and The Jamaican Bobsled T shirts.

The " Come To Our Olympics so we can kick your ass attitude has been fairly distasteful.

The limiting of other teams use of the facilities to train says it all.

I heard one downhill skier from Slovenia saying he'd only been down the mountain twice. That's nuts. We're not hosting the games we're controlling the games.

I hope, Harper, gets to watch The Swedes and The Russians in the hockey final from his $700 seat.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Still, he has improved with age, as claimed. Even if in the old days he'd criticise six years early, Robbie's new one can't be much more than a year out and he's held his fire.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Do watch for the DVD … no, they're separate in 2052. That's why she doesn't want the flag. She won't be voting.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Never saw that show, but will watch for the DVD - maybe next time I go to the library. With futuristic shows, you never know how much is intended to be extrapolation / prognostication and how much is intended to be didacticity. My guess is that the cellphone thing was the latter. Hand-held usage (with exceptions) in now illegal here (Ontario) and also in the land of Joe J. Maybe other provinces too. Sad to think that by 2052 Canada and the US will be one - a northern half still clinging to socialised health care and a southern half still seeing it as a communist plot. Though if Vonnegut got the idea right (if not the timing), we may all be dying of green-dust inhalation by then anyway.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Yup, Steve's ability to extensively critique a musical event six years before it happened is well-known around here. He already has his review of RR's new album in the can.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Defining Canadian

The TV series “Defying Gravity” was filmed in Vancouver, It was planned to last three to five seasons, but horrendous scheduling killed it halfway through series one in the USA, and the second half was shown in the UK late at night on minor channels just before Christmas. Fortunately, we recorded it to hard disk and finished it yesterday. It’s superb and the fact that the actors have been released, the sets demolished etc means we’ll never get to see the end play out. On the bright side, it is on DVD.

I thought of it just now reading Charlie’s post. There’s one sequence where the Americans among the astronauts approaching Venus in 2052 have to cast their votes in the US election, an event which will be televised on Earth. The woman with the TV camera is handing out little US flags, and one astronaut says, ‘No thanks. I’m Canadian.’

The reply is, ‘Ah, but what about Rolly? He’s American and you’re married to him’

She replies, ‘Yes. That makes him Canadian.’

One false note though. A car accident on Earth in 2052 is caused by the driver talking into a hand held cell phone at the wheel. That’s already illegal here with 42 years to go. I assume voice activated in-car cell phones (you can already get them) will be standard in 3 or 4 years time, let alone 2052.


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Posted by:

Steve

Deb, sorry that's an assignment I'll take an incomplete on. But to be fair, I had the same complaints about TLW 40 years ago, don't lump me in with the Johnny Come Latelys in the complaints dept.

Actually, I like TLW more now than when I first saw it. I've improved with age.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Canada

I think it was BEG who named me an honorary Canadian a while back (a belated THANK YOU), and my love for the music of The Band is just part of my love for Canada. I worked for a Canadian company--Coles: The Book People--for a while and got to visit their flagship store and offices in Toronto back in 1981, and my all-time favorite vacation was a railroad and bus trip through breath-takingly beautiful western Canada a few years back. I admit I got a little choked up during the playing of the Canadian National Anthem last night as they won their first gold medal in the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver.

Speaking of medals: I'm proud to report my daughter just took the bronze in an Olympic-themed cooking contest in Washington, DC this week. In honor of Canada, all the recipes had to contain maple syrup. My love for our neighbor to the north must have rubbed off on her.


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Posted by:

Paul F.

Location: Upstate NY

Subject: Thank you

I have been a life long Band fan. In my opinion, they are the definition of Rock N' Roll. They do not get enough credit these days but I don't think the guys want too much credit. I just want to say thank you to all that made this website possible and to The Band. They will always be my favorite group and how they changed my life and how they gave my life perspective will always define who I am and who I strive to be. Thank you.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Scratch My Back

Just listened for the first time to Peter Gabriel's "Scratch My Back" where he does lush instrumental reworkings of other people's songs, while avoiding drums or bass. Reviews range from five star to two star (the last thought that Bowie's Heroes and Paul Simon's Boy In The Bubble are rhythm-based, so fail without the rhythm section). It's fascinating and will take time.

The high spot, as advertised on the cover is "The Book of Love". Gabriel did a similar version of this a few years ago for the movie "Shall We Dance." This appears to be different. I hope that its prominence leads people to the superb original on Magnetic Fields' "69 Love Songs" set. That's unbeatable, but the song is so good, any new version is welcome.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bela Fleck

David P! I'm wondering if you have seen this???.....the damnest thing. I happened on this youtube video of Bela Fleck playing Dueling Banjos. He is playing with an Apple computer. It appears, he plays a verse, which the computer is recording. When he plays his second verse, the computer is playing back the first verse which he is playing along with. This continues throughout the song, until it is full of banjos.

A whole new meaning to playing with yourself.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: More Joni & Johnny

There's also a clip from the Johhny Cash Show DVD of Ms. Mitchell duetting with the Man In Black on "Long Black Veil".


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bob w: Great to see your message…..all is fine in life and work – thank you - and really enjoyed your linked article on Jeff Beck as I did his tribute to Les Paul at the Grammys – noticed that he used a pick and was flawless………The Clapton/Beck mini tour rolls into Toronto on Sunday and I am a bit down about not being able to attend!.......On the bright side – the next edition of Clapton’s Guitar Fest has been announced for June in Chicago…..has it really been 3 years already since the last one?

Olympics: I guess no one could have followed the Beijing opening ceremonies and looked great but I thought the opening of the Vancouver games was a complete shambles……exceptions to the horror show was the always spectacular kd lang and the people chosen to carry the Olympic flag…..good to see Bobby Orr - he looks as good at 60 as he did at 20!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joe J: Thanks for the link to Joni 'n' Johnny!

NB: The writer of the article that friendo quotes at length's another ex-Spartan. Before my time, though he had a younger brother who would have stalked the halls when we did.

A trip to the library yielded a copy of Luke Doucet's "Broken" CD. I'm not a big fan, but since he was was one of the performers at BARK's TLW celebration a couple of years ago I thought I'd give it a listen. Some good stuff on it; even has Amos Garrett on one track, the one that starts with "It takes a uniquely fucked up man to break his own heart".

A far better loaner from the library was Leonard Cohen's "Dear Heather". Mostly nothing special, but "The Faith", with Garth Hudson on accordion, is jaw-droppingly gorgeous.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Blues at TLW

"Nine Below Zero" was a Rice Miller (Sonny Boy Williamson II) song and one that The Band may had performed with him during their encounter with him in Helena. I feel that including Muddy Waters' electrifying performance of "Mannish Boy" in the film was the perfect choice, despite the camera problems. It captures the essence of an elder bluesman, who could still turn back the clock with an exciting performance, mixing graceful dignity with the playful edge of braggadocio. Since he had co-writing credit on that song, it also made better sense for inclusion in TLW.


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Posted by:

Deb

I think that TLW is a wonderful snapshot of a time and place in American music. I used to enjoy watching it and still can if I can put all the bitching and contention out of my mind. Like I've said before on a related subject, there must have been something about being there that suited Dr. John and some of the other latter-day detractors at the time. My point was that TLW was an ambitious project for its time and it's easier to point out what one thinks could have been done years later that it is to undertake something of that magnitude. Build a barn that folks are still discussing nearly 40 years later and get back to me.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friendo

Subject: Music DNA, AL Kooper Interview Major Cut & Paste from Music Wire

FINALLY !!!! WHAT WE REALLY NEED ............ Al Kooper

INDUSTRY PROFILE

By Larry LeBlanc

Two decades on from the development of the digital audio encoding format MPEG-3, digital audio may now have evolved to be a compelling content provider.

Last month, Bach Technology, one of the leading providers of technology and applications for the digital music market, unveiled MusicDNA at MIDEM as “the successor to MP3”; and as a way to make buying legal downloads more attractive.

The rollout of MusicDNA will be staggered over this year with the full commercial rollout expected over the summer. Bach Technology, based in Norway, Germany and China, has been involved with the development of digital music since 1986. Its founder and president Dagfinn Bach pioneered the MP3's music application.

Among the Investors of MusicDNA is Karlheinz Brandenburg, the inventor of the MP3 algorithm. Bach's technology partner is Germany's Fraunhofer Institute for Digital Media Technology (IDMT) where the MP3 was developed.

Unlike older technology, MusicDNA is based on the open standards, MPEG-7 and XML. Bach is the only company offering full end-to-end MPEG-7 integration, ensuring interoperability and compatibility with external programs and systems. So MusicDNA’s files will be compatible with MP3 players, including Apple's iPod.

MusicDNA uses the same audio compression technique as MP3 (itself a form of lossy data compression) but adds significantly more, including richer metadata than is allowed by MP3.
MusicDNA technology enables a large amount of metadata to be packaged alongside an MP3. This metadata--in essence the MusicDNA--allows for a detailed description of media files including generating Music playlists based on such attributes as mood, energy and even the electro-acoustic properties of tracks.

It also includes editorial content including from lyrics and artwork through to updated content such as an artist’s Twitter stream, blog posts, and latest news. The company’s customized multimedia content can go with whatever music package the consumer wants, whether albums or individual tracks.
Additional content appears alongside the MP3 in a customizable App-driven player that is freely available to download. Content automatically updates whenever the player is connected to the internet.
Only legitimately purchased tracks will update, and pirated versions will remain as static files.

MusicDNA can analyze consumers' music choices and help them find exactly what they want at a digital store or in their own digital music collection. The technology offers 13 "descriptors" (description categories), ranging from genre, mood, tempo, and aggressiveness to density to help pin down the type of music sought. MusicDNA technology would allow rights holders--music label or artist-- or retailer to send updates to the music file and enables rights holders to up-sell concert tickets, merchandise, music videos and other exclusive content – either purchasable alongside the track itself or at any future point.

Pricing of MusicDNA rolls will be at the discretion of rights holders, label, and artist, or retailer involved. A recent report by Forrester Research, the independent American technology and market research company, argued that the future of the music industry lies in allowing fans greater interaction and customizability with their music files

MusicDNA, incorporating user-customizability and inter-platform compatibility, may represent the New Frontier. Was MIDEM a success for your company?

We had a blast there. We were completely taken by surprise that MusicDNA made such a splash in the media, and had such a good response from the industry. It was great for us. Very positive.

In the past, music recommendation was difficult to sell. Now everyone is interested at looking at these formats. If we had introduced MusicDNA three or five years ago, everybody would have said, “No. We don’t need it.” The industry is at a point where they are thinking that they have to give (or sell) more than a digital recorded file. They are thinking, maybe, that they have to improve files, and give users a better experience. (They might think that) MusicDNA is a very good vehicle for doing that. Things like this need time. Changes are never made overnight.

A number of independent labels have signed up for MusicDNA, but the major labels have yet to commit. We are currently in talks with all of the major labels. The feedback that we are getting from them is very positive. These are big corporations, and the process with big corporations is slower than with smaller companies. The feeling that I get is that they clearly get what is behind MusicDNA and the opportunity of it. My guess is that it will be only a matter of time until we have one or two of them on board.

With the new CMX album download format-- that includes a CD, lyrics, artwork, and videos--the majors seem to have recognized the need for richer content. I am very positive in regards to this. Three of the four major labels have their own initiatives with CMX. We are now trying to evaluate how we can work there together. So the majors are already thinking in the right direction. How quickly can we now make it happen? I don’t know but I’m quite optimistic. A pivotal move in the market too was the introduction of ITunes LP by Apple.

It broke the ice. Everybody is now saying, “We need more rich media.” Labels are now going in the right direction with the thinking that there are things (online products) that users can customize; that there’s an open standard; that there are updates; and that there should be ways to make it user friendly. It is the perfect timing for us.

For years, the music industry, reeling from illegal file sharing, had fought against most technology. Do executives now better understand technology and its uses to their business?
The key industry players are better equipped these days. There now is a younger generation in key positions. They are more technology keen. At the same time, technology has moved more into the day-to-day lifestyles of every one of us. So, we are in a much better position (to launch) than 10 years ago.

Still, after MTV and ITunes, the music industry doesn’t want to have a third party so dominant in its industry. Yeah but I think this is a little bit different. The comparison between us and MTV is not right. iTunes is in the consumer business. We are not operating a consumer business. We are providing platforms that the consumer businesses can grow again. This is the fundamental difference. With MusicDNA, the labels and others can also take back control of pricing.

Yes. We make it clear that we provide the technology; we provide the infrastructure but what the content is, and what the labels are making out of it is up to them. In this way, the major labels won’t lose any control over their pricing or their products whatsoever. ITunes has set the agenda for the structure of music pricing.

I would not say (music labels) lost control over (music pricing). They are glad that there is a legitimate player that is able to sell their product versus all of the freely available stuff on the internet. In this industry, as you say, nobody really wants anyone else to be a really dominant player in the market. This is not only in the music industry, it is in any other industry. The music industry has gone through a basic re-think in how to sell music and content.

If you look at what has happened in the 10 or 15 years after MP3 came up, the initial reaction (to it) was shock. Then, there was a restriction with DRM. Now, we are at the end of the phase of trying to make the numbers work and trying to find different business models, either by subscription or combining it with another device. I see a little bit of a light in the tunnel in which the (music) industry is going back to the product, and thinking, “Maybe, we have to make the digital product better so we can charge again.” Why has it taken so long to evolve the MP3?

The .mp3 was developed 20 years ago, but it only got good market penetration about 10 years ago. It took 10 years for it to take off. It was only when the Winamp player [was introduced] that it suddenly became a household tool. Sometimes, the technology that everything is based on is around for some years but the time has to be right (for developing a market). [In 1994, the Fraunhofer Society released the first software MP3 encoder called l3enc. The filename extension .mp3 was chosen by the Fraunhofer team in 1995. With the first real-time software MP3 player Winplay3 released the same year 1995, many people were able to encode and play back MP3 files on their PCs.

The popularity of MP3s began to rise rapidly in 1997 with the advent of Nullsoft's audio player Winamp, and the Unix audio player mpg123. In 1998, the Rio PMP300, one of the first portable MP3 players, was released.

The small size of MP3 files enabled widespread peer-to-peer file sharing of music ripped from CDs. Napster, the first large peer-to-peer file sharing network, launched in 1999.] The interaction within MusicDNA is the most exciting aspect.

Absolutely. This is where we have the great hope that the artists, and the labels can work with this interaction. Nothing is better, for example, that in the future if you are listening to your favorite artist and, simultaneously, you get the message that he is currently in a Starbucks in Copenhagen drinking coffee. You feel real close to this. Artists’ fan relationships can be very easily triggered and grow with this technology. I think that this is how we can bring back additional value to fans. Bach Technology is seeking third party developers to use MusicDNA?

Yes. It is very important for us to get the message out that we don’t want to control the (music) market. We don’t want to push our players to every music lover in the world. Basically, what we want to do is to develop technology for others so they can invent even better players than ours. We want to have third party developers to develop music-related products.
This would be similar to collaborations and development that came with MP3
Yes. This proved to be very successful.

You still see a future in downloading despite the growing popularity of streaming.
We, as a team, believe that it won’t be one thing only. There won’t be only downloads. There won’t be only streaming. Every delivery method has its advantages and disadvantages. We think that at the end of the day there will be a healthy mix between pre-loads, downloads and streaming.
Pandora and Last.fm use collaborative filtering, relying on both technology and human editors; other services are based on music-purchasing behavior. MusicDNA offers consistent categorization akin to personalized radio DJ that scans every track in the vendor’s inventory.

MusicDNA is, in essence, media extensions that include how to analyze this information, along with textural rich media; multimedia information, and business intelligence. Whatever Last.fm has on information could also be fed into the (MusicDNA) music journal container. So one doesn’t exclude the other.
Instead of relying on editors' individual tastes, MusicDNA can analyze a buyer's music choices and help him find precisely what he wants at a digital store or in their own digital music collection?
Exactly. The files are so intelligent that you can develop your own personal DJ (files) but how you analyze this information can also be combined with information from the collaborative filtering. We think that these two informations together give the best choices.

It’s easier for everyone today to produce and release music. It’s about how (consumers) can filter all of the music. There’s too much (music product) out. It’s about how you make it easy for the consumer to filter what they like or they don’t like. In the entire internet, there’s so much information available. The question is, “How do I get easy access to the exact information that I want?” It’s good that there’s a lot of information available, but you need some tools to make easier for the user to get a better grip on it, and get the right thing for them. Why did you pick the music industry to launch MusicDNA? There are more lucrative fields, including the film industry.

That’s a very good question. Yes, MusicDNA can be used elsewhere, but I would say that the biggest immediate value comes from music because it can be compared to the MP3; and it’s a very plain product. You have just the recorder, some basic information, and the current MP3, and that’s it. If you go immediately to film, the immediate value is not as apparent. But, for music, it is immediately apparent the value that it brings. So the music industry is a natural choice.
As bandwidth increases, there may be other usage?

Yes. The entire container can hold to 32 gigabytes. It doesn’t make any sense to put all of the (films) into it because then we’d have the same experience as ITunes LP where you have to download 500 megabytes. If I do this in China, I’d switch my computer on in the morning and (only) in the afternoon the content would finally be there. Initially, there will be videos, and video links. Before a full (film rollout), maybe, we’ll start with first 20 second clips or something. The bandwidth will evolve in a way that you can enlarge it. I don’t think anyone (like a studio) wants to immediately put films into it. *****************************************************************


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Posted by:

Steve

Deb, my experience has been that it's harder to deconstruct something that was well put together in the first place. It's much easier to take down a poorly built barn than to take down a superior, mortised and tenoned one. I've taken down both.

A good craftsman's job is much more difficult to mess with and usually stands the test of time.

I'd have kept, Such a Night, and jettisoned, The Rhinestone Doughboy's, Dry Your Eyes, even though the fact that he's included over another Muddy song does make me weep and I sometimes think he's singing the song to me in particular.

Actually, another song with The Hawk would have been more appropriate as well. No Hawk, no Band.


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Posted by:

Peter V

… or rather … bands often go into bits of things warming up, so some kind of bit of "Nine Below Zero" sounds possible. I just think a version with The Band as a serious soundcheck sounds unlikely after all this time.

In spite of us having so much better memory aids now with photos, sound etc, TLW is a bit like the Bible. New information (stuff that wasn't written down at the time) is arriving 34 years after the event.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: TLW

I think extra film footage would have found its way on to one of the remasters … as a way of selling it again if nothing else. I would bet the barrel is empty. though having said that there's another set of Johnny Cash's American Recordings out today, and the previous one was "the last one."

1976 is early. They wouldn't have used 35 mm film for blocking cameras. Video was often used for testing angles (though no good for lighting as it's so different). At the most they'd have run a lower format of film or video. That's the remote possibility, but even then they'd have used it on the last set, if it had been anything professionally done.

As everyone got pre-selected songs and Muddy wasn't there for long, it's just as likely that Dr. J's memory of "Nine Below Zero" is at fault.


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Posted by:

Dominick

Location: College Park, Maryland
Web: My link

Subject: Free Form Radio

Greetings all. I have seen several references to other radio stations that are supposedly "free form". I used to work for one station in Annapolis, Maryland. I can tell you for certain that the Annapolis station and the Philadelphia station (WXPN) are *no longer* free form. The *only* free form station left in the Washington DC/Baltimore area is WMUC. I've been a DJ at WMUC since 1991. Granted you may not hear The Band as much as you may like but I assure you it is the only free form station left on the dial in the area. I host the Electric Candle radio show Saturdays at 3:00PM eastern US time. Tune in for "Hippie music ad infinitum." Listen: http://wmucradio.com/wmuc-high.m3u My archive: http://wmucradio.com/stream_ripper/sat/Electric_Candle_1500_1800.mp3 My Profile: http://wmucradio.com/station/profiles/69 Thanks for hanging around your radio, Dominick


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Posted by:

Zzzz

Cool slide stuff Westie!...


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Posted by:

Pat B

TLW rehearsals were probably being blocked for camera angles, lighting, etc. I seriously doubt the stage rehearsals were filmed.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Excerpts from _Can't Be Satisfied: The Life and Times of Muddy Waters_ By Robert Gordon


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Happy Family Day in Ontario!

Bring It On Home: In Search of Sonny Boy Williamson
(As shown in the Martin Scorsese 1978 film, The Last Waltz)
by Joe Pascale
January 23, 2006


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

As someone said, "nostalgia isn't what it used to be."


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Muddy and the doctor...

Interesting take from Dr John: would I be right in saying that TLW is sort of reverse nostalgia? Most participants are now critical of it, rather than seeing it through rose-coloured glasses?

This is not to imply undue criticism of any party...


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Posted by:

Deb

Re Dr. John's TLW critique, I'm sure they could have found a place to put Muddy in there some kind of way. For example, I'd have been willing to pass up hearing "Such a Night" for the umpteenth jillion time to hear Mr. Morganfield's version of "Nine Below Zero." Of course, it's a lot easier to deconstruct something than it is to put it together in the first place.


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Posted by:

Young Hippie

Subject: "King" of country-soul

Lest we forget Mr. Rick Danko. He could sing soulfull songs & country songs.(Sorry, I've been away for awhile.)


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Kevin J., hope you are well. Link to a NY Times piece on Jeff Beck. Enjoy.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Correction

The quote from Dr. John about the Muddy Waters soundcheck at TLW should read "popped in there," not "pepped." It does lead one to think there were some filmed outtakes that never made the bonus material of the DVD reissue.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Speaking of Dr. John

Dr. John was supposed to play here in Virginia last week but the weather kept him in New Orleans (where I'm sure he had more fun celebrating the Super Bowl victory by the Saints, anyway). He did give a telephone interview to writer Zack Smith of the Fredericksburg FREE LANCE-STAR which mentioned "The Last Waltz," though.

"I remember being a little upset with The Band--I wasn't allowed to bring my girl singers. I also remember that when I got there, Muddy Waters was playing this beautifu thing at the sound check that was filmed and never used in the movie. He was playing 'Nine Below Zero,' and you would've though somebody could've pepped that in there some kind of way."

And speaking of Bobby Charles--as Adam just did--Dr. John goes on to mention his appearance at TLW: "...I do know something good came out of [TLW]...Bobby Charles and myself started writing songs together and we've been writing ever since--until he passed away. A few of the songs on this new record he co-wrote with me--and one of them was written some time right after "The Last Waltz." Those are the kinds of things that makes me know that Bobby's spirit is alive and kickin'--even if his meat ain't here."


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Bobby Charles' new album "Timeless"

I've been listening to Bobby Charles' new album "Timeless", completed shortly before his death. I bought an early copy from the link below. It's a solid, enjoyable album with some very good material. The album mainly consists of new recordings produced by Dr. John, and features him leading Sonny Landreth & band on piano, organ, and electric piano. To be straight up, there are 4 throwaway tracks, but the rest of the material is very solid and enjoyable. After only a few listens it is quickly winning me over.

The Dr. John material features newly written songs and songs written back in the '70s, all newly recorded. Songs include the Bearsville-era "Little Town Tramp", a lovely version of the Rick Danko co-write "Old Mexico", and the David Allan Coe co-write "You'll Always Live Inside Of Me". The highlights of the newly-written songs include the rollicking "Where Did All The Love Go" and "Nobody's Fault But My Own", as well as the pro-Obama "Take Back My Country". Also included is a fine, if unremarkable remake of "Before I Grow Too Old".

This album's really growing on me. Like the best of his latter-day output, it's warm, laid back and just enjoyable music. Dr. John's production and playing is solid. I recommend picking this up.

http://www.louisianamusicfactory.com/showoneprod.asp?TypeID=72&ProductID=6673


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Some Nights The Bottle Doesn't Let You Down

A few years ago my friend and I had a regular gig at a restaurant / brew pub. During the cold weather months we played inside a small, crowded bar area, with no stage and tables right on top of us. A few times, even though I had my trusty Coricidin bottle, I would pick up an empty beer bottle from a table to use as a slide. Once and a while, when I forgot where my slide was, I would even use a semi-full pint glass. In the heat of a moment, during a song, one often reacts instinctively, and once and awhile, these theatrical tricks get the audience more involved in the music.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Danny Gatton Slide

Just as Charlie has mentioned.........


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Improvizing slide

You're right Charlie, and he's not the only one. I recall telling David this story. Around 1985, a fellow who played lead guitar with me for quite some time, named "Nilan Ritter". Nilan was from New Jersey, and coincidentally had a Fender "Broadcaster". One of about only 3 I've seen in my life.

Any way one night we're playing in a club, and (Nilan always kept his glass slide in his left back pocket) that way when he felt a "slide moment" coming on, he'd just stick his little finger in his pocket and come out with his slide. Well this night, we're playing some song that is really cooking. I finish a verse and glance at Nilan. He looks at me, drops in for his slide, and as he pulls it out, it flips off his finger and comes rolling across the floor in front of me. He looks at me and shrugs, pulls his mike stand over and plays his riff using the mike stand............very cool.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Telecaster master Danny Gatton was known to play bottleneck guitar on occasion with an open bottle of Heineken or other brew spilling out as he played. There may be some evidence of that on YouTube. There's a good short interview with Danny there--and a good long article about Jeff Beck in today's NEW YORK TIMES for fans of that guitar great.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Vigilant Man

This is mostly for David Powell.....but for every one. A long while back, David 7 I were jokingly improvising different objects for playing slide guitar. While spending a lot of time on watching the youtubes of Ry Cooder, (a lot from a concert in Santa Cruz a long while back) I came across one of Ry playing Vigilant man when he was quite young. His "bottleneck" slide, is a broken long neck of a beer bottle. He has it taped on his finger where the broken end is so as not to cut him self. It's pretty funny but of course sounds great.

You can get absorbed for a long time on that damn Youtube.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just revisited the two Piano Red versions of "Dr Feelgood." Sadly neither is up to the high standard of the version he originally cut as "Dr Feelgood and The Interns".

It reminded me of how many bands used to play his other well-known track, "Right String But The Wrong Yo Yo" in the early 60s. I saw Zoot Money, Johnny Kidd & The Pirates and Gerry & The Pacemakers covering it, as did most of the local bands in my area at the time. It was just one that everyone covered.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dr Feelgood / Piano Red

There's a 1999 CD of unissued material on (British) Ace's Westside label. It's called "The Flaming hurricane" and was originally recorded by the old Ace Records of Mississippi.Records probably in the mid-70s.

The liner notes mention an album recorded at Muhlenbrink's Saloon "Happiness is Piano Red" which was produced by Henry Glover. I've got the collection that came in the Orbis magazine / CD partwork on the blues. It's called "Live & Feeling Good" and consists of bits from the "Original Dr Feelgood" album with some unissued stuff.

I used to have the ancient EP of Dr Feelgood & the Interns, which must be around 1962 or 1963. The song has long been a favourite.


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Posted by:

Mister F

Subject: A bit of light relief - are you a genius

ALZHEIMERS' EYE TEST

Count every " F" in the following text:

FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE

SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI

FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH

THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS...

(SEE BELOW)

HOW MANY ?

SCROLL DOWN

...................... 3?

WRONG, THERE ARE 6 -- no joke.

READ IT AGAIN !

Really.

There are actually 6. Go Back and Try to find the 6 F's before you

scroll down.

The reasoning behind is further down.

The brain cannot process "OF".

Incredible or what? Go back and look again!!

Anyone who counts all 6 "F's" on the first go is a genius.

Three is

normal, four is quite rare.



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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Mr. Moonlight

Another, more obscure, Southern RnB hit covered by the Beatles was "Mr. Moonlight". The song was originally recorded by the Georgia group Dr. Feelgood and the Interns, as the B-side to the more popular "Dr. Feelgood" on the Okeh label. The leader of the group, Dr. Feelgood, was William Lee Perryman, better known as Piano Red, who had also recorded with Blind Willie McTell. An accomplished singer and boogie woogie / stride pianist, his later group also had a hit with the novelty song "Right String Baby, But The Wrong Yo-Yo". The song "Mr. Moonlight" was written and sung by Roy Lee Johnson, who played guitar with the Interns before going solo. Like many Southern RnB acts at the time, Dr. Feelgood and his group achieved more popularity, almost cult status, overseas in Britain. In later years, before his death, Piano Red performed regularly solo at Mulenbrinks nightclub in the old Underground Atlanta, where members of the Rolling Stones often dropped by to catch his set whenever the were in town on tour. I believe the Hollies also covered "Mr. Moonlight" around the same time as the Beatles.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Double bass

Yes, the article says it was the first one he saw, advertised locally by an old man. He paid the £5 at 25p a week or something. It was years later that he discovered its value, and that it was made in Paris in 1865. Usually musicians discover that sort of thing the day after screwing a pick up into the ancient varnish!


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: incredible isn't it?

A valuable instrument, bought for convenience cheaply. I'd bet if it was a cheap Korean instrument, and he liked the sound, he'd not be bothered... often wonder about Levon's drum kit whch was found by Garth, if memory serves... but, the sound was right...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dunc, check out the latest "The Word" for the Danny Thompson feature "World's Greatest Bass Player Looks Back", with a lot on John Martyn. Apparently, Thompson's first and favourite double bass turned out to be an 1865 Gand model, worth a small fortune now. It cost him £5. The list of Thompson's sessions is phenomenal, from Rod Stewart to the Incredible String Band to Kate Bush. On the way he played on Cliff Richard's Eurovision hit "Congratulations."


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Moula Banda

Well thanks Joan. I had them all right except the sax player and that trombone player.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Marching Bands

As to our discussions here about marching bands a few days back. This is a video of OK Go's new song, performed with the Notre Dame marching band. They always do interesting videos. (The one with the treadmills comes to mind)


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Deal! Tenner to the Shriner's Hospital in the name of Dunc McBandage, an alias you used here many years ago. Doing great as I hope you are. Thanks for asking. Let's hope this bet becomes a long standing tradition.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Ry Cooder

Norm, the guy you are looking for is George Bohannon. The version I saw on Youtube listed the following Personnel:

Ry Cooder: guitar, vox

Jim Keltner: drums

Van Dyke Parks: keys

Jorge Calderon: bass

Flaco Jimenez: accordion]

Miguel Cruiz: percussion

Steve Douglas: sax

George Bohannon: trombone

Singers: Bobby King: tenor Terry Evans: baritone Arnold McCuller: tenor Willie Green Jr: bass


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Peter, David and all

Peter, will pick up that album at EMI hopefully. Playing Forever More and AWB today.

David, you can see the importance of soul to the Band. If anybody has not got 'Cryin' Heart Blues by Rick, buy it. Great soul renditions of 'I'll Turn to Stone' and 'Cry Another Tear'. 'I'll Turn to Stone' is brilliant.

Calm before the storm. Awaiting the grandchildren. Taking them to Edinburgh tomorrow for a couple of days. Exhaustion awaits.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Landmark

Male Curling bet on, Landy. Loser(lowest standing) pays a tenner to charity.

Hope you are well, Landy.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Mr. Accordian Man...and "Crazy Heart"

BEG: I love Garth's accordian on that version of "Tambourine Man" from the '74 tour. I wish they'd done that at the DC show where I saw them.

There are some good musical moments--including a couple with accordian--in the new Jeff Bridges vehicle, "Crazy Heart." It's an amazing performance and the music is authentic and excellent. There's even a Bob Dylan connection since Rolling Thunder Revue band member T-Bone Burnett co-wrote most of the songs and produced.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Ry Cooder - Maria Elena

So long ago, I can't remember how or why, I was turned on to, Los Indios Tabajaras.....two brothers from Brazil, whose story was. They were walking down a trail in the jungle, and found a guitar some one had left behind. They became so infatuated with it, they became two of the greatest guitarists in the world.

My youngest daughter resently married, (about two years now) married a young man from Chile. My newest grand daughter, now about 5 months old is named Elena, so I turned them on to this song. I'm.......pretty sure my favourite piece of music.

This link is to Ry Cooder playing this song many years back, with the Moula Banda Rythm Aces. I'm hoping some one can name me the players in this band, particularly the trombone man....any way this is pretty cool, so I hope the link works. If not it's easy to call up, Ry Cooder - Maria Elena.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: We Already Won!

Well Ilkka: I now have a picture of my grandson Gavin, who is 5, holding up the Olympic Torch. Day before yesterday, on it's route, some of the folks carrying the torch, stop and let children hold it for the greatness of that feeling. Gavin is grinning from ear to ear. Some thing to keep.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

The link goes to amazon.co.uk for track details of a budget CD I picked up today "Take My Tip: 25 British Mod Artefacts from the EMI Vaults." The 25 tracks would cost a fortune if tracked down on rare singles. You get stuff I was discussing last week … the soul / R&B influenced British mid-60s band. Treats include Rod Stewart single from 1964, as well as Rod with Long John Baldry the same year. The rest are the cream of those working mid-60s British bands. Chris Farlowe, Cliff Bennett, Herbie Goins, Simon Dupree, Shotgun Express.

For a Band link, there's Ottilie Patterson and Chris Barber with Sonny Boy Williamson on Baby Please Don't Go from 1964.Hopefully not one of those "want to play the blues so bad … and they do" examples. That must be either The Animals or The Yardbirds!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Ha, Ha! It's Justin BIEBER not BEAVER! Someone had commented that he sounded like one. I think he's ok. Of course, Quebec's Celine does Lauper's part....Band connection....Mother of Robbie's children....Dominique.

Mr Tambourine Man - Bob Dylan and The Band - 1974-02-14 - Valentine's Day.

"During the final show of the tour (which took place on Valentine's Day), Dylan broke from the standard setlist to play Sara's favorite song, "Mr. Tambourine Man". Accompanied by Garth Hudson on accordion, it was only the song's second appearance on the entire tour, and would not be included on Before the Flood."

The Forum
Inglewood
Los Angeles, California
14 February 1974 Evening

Bob Dylan (vocal, guitar, harmonica), Robbie Robertson (guitar), Garth Hudson (synthesizer), Richard Manual (keyboards), Rick Danko (bass), Levon Helm (drums).



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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Here's a better entire cut for "We Are The World" 25 for Haiti.
Included are lyrics (I like the raps) with Will I Am and Akon and West and gang...and a list of all the artists and their parts if you don't know all of them.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Complete new version of "We Are The World" for Haiti.

Band connections for those who need them....
Music begins with Stratford, Ontario's Justin Beaver.
Video directed by Paul Haggis from London, Ontario.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Some basic arithmetics, Mr Professor

JAN HOIBERG says: "I know this is a cliché," he says, "but The Band was a unique combination of _FIVE_ extremely talented individuals. All of them were essential to the original quintet's sound and success, and I can't pick one as a 'favorite.' Having said that, I must admit that it was the performances by RICK and LEVON that really opened my eyes and ears when I first saw TLW. Then, after buying and listening to the early records, RICHARD's voice and GARTH's wizardry got me hooked for life."

I count only to FOUR (Rick, Levon, Richard, Garth), not to FIVE!!! (+ROBBIE ROBERTSON) Why is that? The Swedes are into stupid Norwegian jokes but I am not a Swede. I don't say: "Norwegian low-cost University Professors can't count up to five". As a Finn I only feel sorry about my Norwegian friend and throw another log into the fireplace.


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Posted by:

Rev. Jody Martin

Location: Dexter Ga.

I am 41 yrs. old and have always loved THE BAND'S radio hits but about 2 yrs. ago the bass player for the band i was fronting at the time turned me on to The Last Waltz which made me love THE BAND'S music even more! You guys are legends that deserve more credit than you already have. sorry for the breakup but just like my 10 year career in the band I formed, the music lives on!! rock on guys !!!


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again)

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Some linguistics especially for Norbert

I have heard that the name "Vancouver" is related to a Dutch with the name Van Koover. Wouldn't surprise me at all.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Winter Olympics 2010 in Vancouver

CONGRATS CANADAAAAA!!!!! for a great Opening Ceremony. Despite a hell of a hangover I woke up at 3 AM (Nordic Time) and enjoyed The Ceremony live on TV ... with a touch of BUFFY SAINTE-MARIE and J. ROBBIE ROBERTSON. I had planned a trip to Vanvouver for years but unfortunately it never happened. God save the whistlers!


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Carmen - RR's Facbook page said summer or fall.


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Posted by:

carmen

Does anyone know when the new RR CD is scheduled for release?


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Dunc, while watching the Opening Ceremonies last night, I remembered that we bet the Curling for charity. Are we on again?


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Link is to Johnny and Joni singing 'I Still Miss Someone'. Joni passed up a great career in country music. Johnny didn't.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Plus, the alternate take lacks the "You can change your name..." bridge found in the released version, suggesting the song hadn't yet been finished.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Should note that the alternate take of "JS" has Levon on drums, Richard on piano, and Garth on organ, while the originally released version, as David P notes, has Levon on rhythm guitar, Richard on drums, and Garth on piano (plus overdubbed horns). It's interesting to consider which other songs were experimented with in the studio with different instrumental lineups like this. Personally, I think they made the right choice in releasing the two-guitar version on the original album.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: mus musculus

Bill M: thanks anyway, though I can't imagine anyone making a bonehead move like that.

Must be the approach of the saint's day that had me musing about "Rag Mama Rag" this morning. More in your "Jemima" category, I guess, but I concluded that "Rag" was in the very small set of all "sexy smutty" songs - as opposed to any number of e.g. rap tracks in the very large set of all "disgusting smutty" recordings.

And naturally I thought of the line in Plautus's _Truculentus_:

"Consider the little mouse, how sagacious an animal it is which never entrusts its life to one hole only."


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I also believe that Steve Alaimo was an owner of TK records, who hit it huge in the 70's with KC and the Sunshine Band as well as George and Gwen McCrae.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Valentine's Day being almost upon us, I thought I'd suggest that it's generally better to lead with "Sit down I think I love you / Anyway, I'd like to try" as opposed to "Jemima surrender / I'm gonna give it to you".

There's no need to thank me.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Remember the Alaimos

Bill M: One of the Mojo Men was Jimmy Alaimo, who's cousin Steve Alaimo gained more fame in the recording industry as a performer, tv star (Dick Clark's "Where The Action Is"), record producer & executive and songwriter. He co-wrote "Melissa" with Gregg Allman and wrote the classic Betty Wright hit "Clean Up Woman".


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Thanks. Gotta love Stuart McLean's line that the McGarrigles' songs "are as close to the heart of the country as a Tom Thomson painting." Perfect.

gladavid: So maybe it was Levon borrowing from Stills? Seems to me that the Mjo Men, like the Tikis I mentioned last week, were on the little LA label for whom Sly Stone was the house producer. Interesting that there was an Errico in the Family Stone too.


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Posted by:

Steve

Well, Bill, what I remember from that election was that they weren't going to try and get elected without running but were forced to in the end when their campaign just never got off the ground.

JQ, I don't think Richard would be out of place on your country soul list.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: another Kate McGarrigle eulogy

Begins with a quote from John Wesley.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Jemima Sit Down

Not to forget, Levon, who co-wrote "Jemima Surrender" with Robbie, also played the electric rhythm guitar on the song.

Some of us old timers remember the San Francisco group called the Mojo Men, who had a top-40 hit with their cover version of "Sit Down, I Think I Love You" in the late 60s. It featured a baroque classical arrangement by Van Dyke Parks, who also produced & played keyboards, and, despite the group's name, was sung by their female drummer & vocalist Jan Errico Ashton.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

An email from a friend caused me to check out YouTube for Fraser & Debolt, an early '70s folk duo based in Steveland Quebec. This link is to their powerful version of "Don't Let Me Down". Stay with it, past the long fiddle intro. "Them Dance Hall Girls" is also well worth a listen.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Doncha think also that the fact that the Yogic Flying Party was RUNNING for those seats made it even more ridiculous?

Dave H: Thanks for the ocnfirmation / elaboration. Note that Robbie placeholdered several bits of "Sit Down ..." in that early take of "Jemima Surrender" - all clustered pretty close together. (I listened to it on the drive home yesterday afternoon.)


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Posted by:

Gene Boi

Location: I am on tour
Web: My link

Subject: Planet Plink have new song

Planet Plink have new song


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Robbies Facebook entry today:

This was the first time Marty called me and said,“ I don't have any ideas where to start musically.” After I read the script I suggested that instead of a traditional score, I put together some music by modern classical composers with a few songs from the film's time period sprinkled in. Marty felt it really connected ...and we went on a mission of doing something unlike anything we'd ever done before. Shutter Island.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Dylan at the White House

I liked this performance.....see link for those that missed it on tv....


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Posted by:

Steve

Elton, is a homophobic gay-basher ? I never looked beyond the Dame Edna Collection he chose his glasses from to form an opinion of him. I guess there's more to the man than meets the eye.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Vee-Jay album

David - you're absolutely correct, I forgot about the Vee-Jay album.


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Posted by:

daniel simerson

Location: from new york but now live in las cruces nm
Web: My link

Subject: im hispanic(cross between native american and spanish) and a jew also

hi i have both of robbies albums and was wondering since im a song writer whose terminally ill with hep c would he be interested in contacting me and letting write one song with him for his next album?im gonna die probably within eight years and me and him have so much in common as far as music goes. please tell him to contact me asap. danieldoesitnlc@gmail.com


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Anna (Go To Him)

Gene: Adding to the confusion, the Beatles' cover of the Arthur Alexander song was included on Vee-Jay Records U.S. release of "Introducing...The Beatles" in Jan. 1964. It was also included on Capitol/Canada's "Twist and Shout" released a month later.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: pro-choice

Let's watch the humorphobia here, please.


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Posted by:

joe j

Rod, I've always thought my island was real. A little surreal this morning with a blizzard blowing outside


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: 'sexist' remarks

Maybe not 'sexist' but certainly 'homophobic' and 'gay-bashing.' Why not use the 'n' word because Snoop does?


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: The Early Beatles

David - It's interesting that 'Anna (Go To Him}' wasn't released until 22-Mar-65 in the US and other Capitol Records markets.


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Posted by:

Steve

Charlie, the most remarkable aspect of the White House performance was seeing Joan, Bob and all those black people singing their songs inside the White House this time as opposed to out on the Mall( is that what's it's called?).

I looked for Bob at the end with the rest of the performers but didn't see him.

Joan was the best part of the evening for me, what a classy act she is in every way. Joan of Art.


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Posted by:

Peter V

In the British LP stamp series, the most notable exception was the lack of an Elton John album. I guess he appears on most LP covers - though only as much as Ziggy on Tumbleweed Connection or Yellow Brick Road. I suspect they thought one elderly queen per stamp was enough! (Before I get accused of sexist remarks, that quip is said to originate with Sir Elton himself!)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Ziggy played guitar

Ziggy Stardust … about a year ago? David Bowie interest was reawakened here by the brilliant 70s cops / time travel series “Life on Mars” where the Hunky Dory song was the theme. The follow-up series “Ashes to Ashes” also centres on a Bowie song. It started me re-listening. “Hunky Dory” is actually my favourite album, because I saw him live just after release and before it was a hit. I remembered seeing him as Davy Jones & The Lower Third in the 60s. Anyway, early Hunky Dory tour, second row from the front, one of the best concerts I’ve ever seen. By the Ziggy Stardust tour there was “a show” aspect that was much more remote.

When those British stamps came out, the Ziggy Stardust LP stamp was the most controversial. The rules say no living person can feature on a stamp except the Queen (and her nearest). That meant several LP sleeves were rejected from the series, but Ziggy Stardust with our Dave at the stage door got through. You could argue that the Let It Bleed cover has models of the Stones as cake decorations (the cake being made by celebrity cookbook author Delia Smith long before she was a celebrity cookbook author), but by the time you get to the stamp size they’re very tiny.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Joe J

Surely not the real South Island with a .ca suffix?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Baez and Dylan at the White House

Watching Joan Baez sing "We Shall Overcome" on the PBS broadcast of "In Performance at the White House" while waiting for Bob Dylan to sing makes me wonder if they spoke to each other backstage. It HAS been a long time since they played the same venue on the same night, and nearly a half century since they first sang together in DC during the historic March on Washington.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: South Island

Subject: Ziggy

Just pulled out my old Ziggy Stardust LP. Bet none of you have been able to say that for a while.

Freak out in a moonage daydream oh yeah.

Nah. This ain't workin. I'll have to flip it. I used to like 'Hang On To Your Self'. Anyway it was 'Man Who Sold The World' we used to freak on. How did we freak exactly? Used to freak out on everything one time. Freaked out on my tax bill this morning. I have to add 13% to any goods I sell or services I perform.



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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Arthur Alexander

Forty-seven years ago today the Beatles recorded several of the songs included on their 1963 debut album, including their cover of Arthur Alexander's "Anna (Go To Him)".


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Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of brotherly love
Web: My link

Subject: Bruce ASCAP

BWNIT,good points, and yes I'm aware of BMI, especially considering other songwriters I know who do actually get paid. I'm not against them collecting, but some of their rates, especially for tiny coffeehouses are simply insane. And the fact that they would go after the boy scouts, girl scouts and other camps for singing songs around a campfire which they did until it backfired is also insane. It is the venue's responsibility, not the performers. There are organizations such as the Folk Alliance who have been trying to negotiate with ASCAP and the other PRO's for years. But at the same time, they are making it increasingly impossible for performers to get a start.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: "Because tonight there are two writers..."

One point seems to be overlooked in the Springsteen/ASCAP matter and that is one of the songs in question, "Because The Night", as registered with ASCAP and the copyright office, was co-written by Bruce Springsteen and Patricia Lee Smith, a/k/a Patti Smith. The song was originally a Springsteen outtake from the Darkness At The Edge Of Town sessions which Ms. Smith later adapted, changing some of the lyrics, and included her 1978 "Easter" album. Her recording of the song became a top-20 hit and the most commercially successful song of the Rock & Roll Hall of Famer's career.

She's been in the spotlight recently, following the publication of her memoir, which has garnered favorable reviews. Since she has always been known as an outspoken artist, one must wonder what she thinks about the ASCAP lawsuit, as it involved the song most identified with her own body of work. It should also be noted that in 2008 Ms. Smith performed at the Sundance ASCAP Music Cafe during the annual fim festival.


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Posted by:

mel1222@123stopsmoking.org

hello


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Posted by:

Steve

NWT, the electric companies are like the mafia. Like the mafia they don't offer you an alternative organization to do business with if you don't like their terms.

And sometimes , like the mafia, the law has to come down on them when their extortion schemes become overly aggressive , think Enron.

All the people that ASCAP sues are complete and utter scumbags? Do you know them all personally? Sounds a little harsh.

The last time I remember "scumbags" being used in such an all inclusive way to describe a group of people, it was our former top General, Rick Hillier using it to describe the Taliban.

In his words, he was going to Afghanistan to kill Taliban scumbags.

He went, he killed, he's gone, they're still there and presumably, still scumbags.

Since you're making the link between club owners and clients of electrical companies, does complete and utter scumbags carry over to people who don't or can't pay their electricity bills? If so, we could send Hillier in, he's currently available to do personalized scumbag removal, though like the Taliban, some will survive to not pay another day.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Country Soul

I don't know who's the King anymore but Jerry Lee is still the Killer.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Collecting agencies differ. I was talking to two people who'd written together and the guy registered with the German GEMA was getting overseas income that the guy registered with another collecting organization (dunno which one) had never heard of.

Collecting pool agencies obviously aren't equal and they extrapolate from samples. I see this with photocopying. One year they sample lots of colleges that teach ELT / ESL and I'm happy, the next year fewer and I'm not so happy. The cap on the highest earners means there is more to go round and there is a base award. Don't forget the highest earners get more because more people play their stuff. With computerization, I thought it had got better. Do they have a cap on the top though?

I like the electricity analogy. When publishers pursued sheet music violation a good few years back, they chose just two wealthy violators and went for them in court. I think one was Rugby public school. Then everywhere got a little more thoughtful before copying sheet music.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Country Got soul

JQ, Larry Jon Wilson and Tony Joe White would be worthy additions to your list. And Billy Vera with Judy Clay on Just Across the Line?


Entered at Thu Feb 11 08:04:11 CET 2010 from adsl-75-37-45-17.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net (75.37.45.17)

Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Pat B: Good to know. While we're on the subject of "Salt Creek," I recently read that the tune was originally called "Salt River" until Bill Monroe recorded it in the early 1960s as a showcase for his then-new banjo prodigy Bill Keith; because Monroe's previous single was "Big Sandy River," his record company made him change the name in order to prevent confusion (ironically, for similar reasons Monroe insisted on referring to Keith as "Brad" rather than allow another Bill in his band). Two indirect links between Bill Keith and the Band that come to mind is that he joined the Jim Kweskin Jug Band after leaving Monroe, which featured future Woodstock residents Geoff and Maria Muldaur, and that he was later the original pedal steel player for Ian & Sylvia's Great Speckled Bird.


Entered at Thu Feb 11 07:19:54 CET 2010 from adsl-179-50-63.bna.bellsouth.net (74.179.50.63)

Posted by:

BWNWITenn

PSB, the argument that you and the author of Kevin J's article support is about as legitimate as a small club owner claiming the electric company is "like the mafia" for cutting the power when he doesn't pay their bill. Paying for the music that's played in a business is an operating expense, no different from electricity, water, salaries, or any other overhead cost. If you can't afford to pay it, what that means is that you can't afford to run a business. It's as simple as that; it's absurd to claim that the supplier is at fault for trying to collect payment for the product they supply. And that's exactly what theis at fault for trying to collect payment for the product they supply. And that's exactly what the PROs do, like it or not.

I'm a Springsteen fan, but I was also disappointed when I heard about this. To me, it seems that he's taking a knee-jerk populist stance solely for appearance purposes, when he is certainly knowledgable enough to know perfectly well that ASCAP merely enforces the clear rights of songwriters, himself as well as thousands of less successful ones.

Believe me, the PROs do not file lawsuits until they have made numerous attempts to collect potentially even a portion of the (usually rather small) fee they collect. The people ASCAP sues are virtually always complete and utter scumbags, depsite the rosy picture of themselves they may try to paint in interviews, who profit off of writers' music while knowingly and blatantly refusing to pay them the income they are owed. It is disrespectful towards music (by people who are profiting off of music) because for some reason they feel the ability to argue that they shouldn't have to pay for using music, while nobody would ever consider an argument that they didn't have to pay for the electricity they used. And these assholes ALWAYS lose, not because ASCAP is involved in a shady governmental consipiracy, but because they have absolutely no type of defense whatsoever.

I'm not defending ASCAP's sampling and magical voodoo payment methods of the money they do collect, but all of the PROs perform an extremely legitimate function. I know all too well that in these days of declining mechanicals, many (successful) songwriters have found themselves in the position of living off of their performance income. If Springsteen is so opposed to ASCAP using the legal system to enforce their right to collect the money they collects on his behalf, perhaps he should no longer affiliate with any PRO and watch his non-touring income drop by 50%. It's absolute, utter bullshit, and if you're a musician you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting an argument that certain club owners should be able to decide they're going to refuse to pay your or anybody else for using their music (especially when the vast majority of owners ARE paying the rather minimal blanket fees).

Incidentally, maybe it depends somewhat on the genre, and airplay level, but it's pretty common knowledge in Nashville that BMI pays significantly more than ASCAP. It's pretty easy to confirm, when one publisher owns a song co-written by both an ASCAP writer and a BMI writer. Might be something for you to look into if you're an ASCAP member.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Dave Hopkins, besides good to see ya, you may recall that Richie Furay yells out "Salt Creek" just before the instrumental break in Poco's version of Go And Say Goodby. And there's an interesting video on youtube that shows the woman who wrote the song Men At Work are getting crucified for stole it from an old English folk song. Oh, and Rita Coolidge has made some noise that she wrote the piano coda of Layla.


Entered at Thu Feb 11 04:42:52 CET 2010 from mobile-166-129-182-158.mycingular.net (166.129.182.158)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Country Soul - Who's the King?

No Order -

Arthur Alexander

Solomon Burke

Charlie Rich

Levon

Percy Sledge

Dan Penn



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Posted by:

Jennifer

Web: My link

Subject: Ain't In It For My Health: A Film About Levon Helm

Calling all fans of The Band: become a facebook fan of the much anticipated documentary Ain't In It For My Health: A Film About Levon Helm, premiering at SXSW Film Festival in March 2010. www.facebook.com/levonhelmmovie or follow us on Twitter @levonmovie.


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Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of brotherly love
Web: My link

Subject: Bruce ASCAP

Kevin J, the article you posted as opposed to the Slate article is on the money, and yeah a couple of times I got the "award." But no, Peter, the money is not equally distributed. Even when I sent in sets from working in an ASCAP licensed club, nothing happened. It's not like there's a rep you can go to. It's a huge anti net neutrality bureaucracy.


Entered at Thu Feb 11 00:48:03 CET 2010 from user-24-236-77-125.knology.net (24.236.77.125)

Posted by:

Deb

Obviously, I got some effective medication for what ails me. Make that "higher than usual."


Entered at Thu Feb 11 00:46:44 CET 2010 from user-24-236-77-125.knology.net (24.236.77.125)

Posted by:

Deb

Subject: Waiting room listening

Kevin, I was in a doc-in-the-box waiting room earlier this week where there were four TVs, all tuned to FOX News. And then they wondered why my blood pressure was higher than usually. I'd have taken Phil Collins in a heartbeat.


Entered at Thu Feb 11 00:18:50 CET 2010 from 21cust114.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.114)

Posted by:

Steve

Location: Mash Up

Bill, as usual I have to point out the finer when it comes to politics. Members of The Yogic Flying Party DON'T NEED SEATS. To paraphrase,Father Mulchay, "Levity, Levity, Levity."


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Bill M:

I'm a little over the song, more so than having a dislike of it: it doesn't bear overly repeated hearing, at least to my ears. The first example which sprang to mind for me (and yours is a great one) was Clapton's quoting 'Blue Moon' in the first couple of bars of the solo in 'Sunshine of your love'... Beyonce (ffs!) quotes dozens of songs in her repertoire in her mcdonalds-like hits, and of course many of the great jazz solos... the decision defeats me. Larikin claims 60 percent, which is ridiculously stupidly high.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 23:54:41 CET 2010 from spr-wlan-13.airbears.berkeley.edu (136.152.140.18)

Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Subject: Blame my browser's autofill feature....

...for the unrelated subject line in the last post!


Entered at Wed Feb 10 23:49:13 CET 2010 from spr-wlan-13.airbears.berkeley.edu (136.152.140.18)

Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Subject: Christmas in the Heart

Bill M: You're right...it's the alternate take of "Jemima" where RR's solo seems to include part of the riff from Buffalo Springfield's "Sit Down, I Think I Love You." Stephen Stills's own Springfield tune "Baby Don't Scold Me," in turn, included a direct quote of the Beatles' "Day Tripper," while another, "Go And Say Goodbye," featured a riff based on the bluegrass tune "Salt Creek." As B. B. King says, it's not whether you steal, it's what you steal...


Entered at Wed Feb 10 23:10:22 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

dlew: It was a big hit here, and huge in NZ when I was there in '81/2. Always loved the thing - though I quickly tired of the rest of the album. I think that the court decision is nuts, especially if Larrikin is claiming rights to the song (which it is not part of) and not just the Men at Work recording (which it arguably is). But even then it seems unfair, given that the flute bit that made the released recording (as opposed to what the flute guy played on the first take or whatever) is as close to "Dreadlock Holiday" as it is the old gum tree. It'd be like Steve Stills coming after rights to "Jemima Surrender" because Robbie borrowed one of his Buffalo Springfield licks as a placeholder in an early take, which appeared on the big brown reissue along with the finished song that includes a totally unrelated guitar solo. (Note that it mightn't be Jemima that I'm thinking of, but certainly one of the songs from that album.)


Entered at Wed Feb 10 22:55:34 CET 2010 from cache-mtc-ad10.proxy.aol.com (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Peter, you must not admire Bruce much. You let him off with " is a scab", which is rather mild compared to the "greedy swine" you conjured up for the bard Dylan. You are correct, Springsteen did give up that right to ASCAP, but considerign how much money they make on him, and other issues as well, they caved pretty quick when his lawywers insisted they take his name off the suit.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 22:41:33 CET 2010 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P

Actually, for the record, the U.S. author with the most books sold is James Patterson. His sales reportedly exceed the combined sales of those by Stephen King, John Grisham and Dan Brown.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 22:41:02 CET 2010 from c-59-101-54-176.hay.connect.net.au (59.101.54.176)

Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Kookaburra sits on a pile of money...

Just over the last few days, Larrikin (there's that word again) records successfully sued Colin Hays, lead singer of Men at Work and author of international hit (? - really?) 'Land DOwn Under'. I"ve linked to a decent piece of analysis. Essentially, a tv show here 'Spicks and Specks' (vaguely a music trivia show - I'm sure the formula was ripped off a UK show, but I'm not sure the name of it) asked a question about the flute part, and the answer was that the flute part was based on the old Australian folk song 'Kookaburra sits in the old gum-tree'. Larrikin music, the owner of the copyright (not the writers, mind - they just got the copyright in a complex series of deals), heard the question, and realised they were sitting on a pile of cash. Sued and won. They are after 60% of royalties! I can't stand either song, but fair suck of the sav (as they say here - a saveloy 'or sav' is a sausage much like you'd find in a hot-dog'). Larrikin are promoting themselves as the underdog, despite having no creative input into either song; and being part of a multinational conglomerate....


Entered at Wed Feb 10 22:33:25 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: speaking of dental appointments ...

LAS VEGAS, Feb. 10 /CNW/ -- Confirming the buzz that has been circulating for months, Celine Dion announced today that she will be returning to Las Vegas in March 2011 to begin a three year residency at The Colosseum at Caesars Palace. The brand-new show designed exclusively for The Colosseum will premiere on March 15, 2011 and features 31 musicians, consisting of a full orchestra and band. The show's concept will be one-of-a-kind, centered on capturing the romance of classic Hollywood movies and performed with a stunning visual presentation. Tickets for the first 54 performances from March 15 through August 14, 2011 will go on sale Friday, February 12, 2010 at 10 a.m. PST.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 22:24:13 CET 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458353.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.104.241)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Above link Dylan at Whitehouse

I have a dentist appointment tomorrow……if that “Wednesday off…Country club going….Mercedes driving….man in white scrubs” is still playing that Phil Collins or Coldplay crap while I am being hacked to death by a hygienist – I may just report him to ASCAP…..Then again, he could probably argue quite successfully that playing that music in his space actually threatened rather than enhanced his business/profits…….


Entered at Wed Feb 10 22:17:32 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Peter V: Here we have Socan, which is the product of an early '80s merger of BMI Canada and CAPAC (essentially ASCAP Canada). Their practice used to be, and maybe still is, to pool the money and send everybody something - much like the UK situation you described.

Kevin J: I have no particular memory of having seen Nash the Slash with FM, but likely did. I certainly saw them on late-night TV before they added the drummer. But I did see him in his unbandaged days when he was just Jeff Plewman and headed up a pro-rock called Breathless. Must've been Youth Day at the Ex in '72, same afternoon as I caught Bob Seger at the same bandshell at what must've been the absolute nadir of his career. I wish I hadn't passed on the next group that day, Brave Belt, who would emerge months later as Bachman Turner Overdrive.

Anyway, while he's done pretty well for himself post FM, he hasn't done nearly as well as his replacement, Ben Mink, now the long-time principal collaborator of kd lang.

Oh yes, the magic duo Henning and Mars did their thing on stage while Breathless played. Doug Henning went on to great success in magic - though he didn't do so well in politics, leading the Yogic Flying Party to no seats at all as you might recall.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Youtube at the White House

I don't know if it's true or not, but a friend just told me that PBS is airing the White House concert tomorrow (Thurs) instead of tonight. A quick way to the link I'd like to share is to simply go into Youtube and search "Bob Dylan at White House" (my web page links don't always work). Dylan's voice sounds pretty worn.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 21:49:48 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bruce is a Scab

I don’t see that, Peter. This small time venue was playing Springsteen’s songs. They were profiting, either by sale of goods, or direct payment, from Springsteen’s songs.

The way PLR (Public Lending Right for library books) and PRS (Performing Rights Society) work here, is that there’s a cap. I’m not up to date, but it used to be that no one author earned over £6000 from PLR. So in fact, the Stephen Kings and Dan Browns of this world were subsidizing the little guy, because without the cap, they would have earned vastly more. A lot of the less successful writers picked up £1000 or so. The same with ALCS (in the UK) photocopying royalties. They sample. They pay the names that stand out; the rest is pooled among members. The USA, unlike the civilized countries of the world … UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Denmark … does not currently pay photocopying royalties.

I thought it was similar with ASCAP (correct me if I’m wrong) in that some money is assigned to quoted songwriters, and the rest is pooled, with every registered writer getting a cut from the pool even if their stuff never gets played. In that case, ASCAP is correct. Springsteen IS a scab, trying to be populist (though the link notes that his own music company has pursued “less public” cases).


Entered at Wed Feb 10 21:35:34 CET 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458353.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.104.241)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

See attached article for more on this ASCAP situation and PSB's position........sometimes a scab isn't a scab....

Bill M: Thanks for that link....good memories....but no I never did see the shows - though many from that era....we were talking about Nash the Slash the other day.......funny to even think about seeing that act on stage for the first time....from the Band all the way up to the late 80's Toronto really had some special people pass through......the more interesting scene over the last 10 years has been Montreal.....Arcade Fire and dozens of other bands....


Entered at Wed Feb 10 20:06:25 CET 2010 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P

In essence, I guess you could say that Mr. Costello's "tribute" comes in the form of mechanical royalties paid for the use of the song, which are collected (probably through the Harry Fox Agency) & disbursed to the publishing company and the songwriter's estate or heirs.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 19:38:27 CET 2010 from 21cust29.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.29)

Posted by:

Steve

David, when Costello contributes a song on a tribute album like that does he have to pay, in this case, A.A. for the tribute? Maybe that's the origin of "paying tribute" and possibly, win, win( for A.A.)as well.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 19:31:17 CET 2010 from 21cust29.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.29)

Posted by:

Steve

Peter, as a writer, I think you're just reluctant to turn the page on this and move on.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 19:21:07 CET 2010 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P

Gene: Thanks for mentioning the other Beatles covers. Dylan also covered Arthur Alexander's "Sally Sue Brown" on his "Down In The Groove" album, and Elvis Costello did a version of that song for an Alexander tribute album.

PSB: Not to mention that clubs also have to shell out additional fees for licensing to BMI and possibly SESAC (Dylan & Neil Diamond) for performance of their respective repertoires of songs.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 19:04:03 CET 2010 from pool-72-78-53-74.phlapa.east.verizon.net (72.78.53.74)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of brotherly love
Web: My link

Subject: Bruce ASCAP

As a small time songwriter on ASCAP, the article and Peter are wrong. Small time guys don't see a dime! ASCAP harasses tiny venues where songwriters get their start with preposterous fees causing them to go out of business. You get a general ASCAP license, not just one to play Bruce also. Bruce remembered when he was in a band and did covers.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 18:38:11 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, no, you couldn’t reason with the Goth (who wouldn’t be able to speak Latin anyway). It’s just that when said Goth is hauled before the International Court in Haga-Comitis (as The Hague was then known), his point that the next Goth along would have done the same would serve him not at all, and he’d spend the rest of his days rowing a galley around with an overseer whipping him along.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 18:19:05 CET 2010 from ool-44c628ae.dyn.optonline.net (68.198.40.174)

Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Beatles covers of Arthur Alexander

David P - somewhat belatedly, I have to mention that The Beatles made outstanding covers of 3 other Arthur Alexander songs besides 'Anna (Go to Him)': 'Soldier of Love (Lay Down Your Arms)' and 'Shot of R & B', both from BBC Sessions and "Where Have You Been (All My Life)', from Star Club.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 17:40:01 CET 2010 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Pay the cost to be the Boss...

Mr. Springsteen of late has been in the spotlight of controversy quite a few times. Just last year he took some heat over the exclusive Wal-Mart deal for his greatest hits CD and then there was the controversy involving inflated concert ticket prices through resale brokers. Also last year, while on tour, Springsteen's cousin, an assistant road manager, died of an accidental drug overdose. Not to mention the false rumours regarding an alleged affair with another woman.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 17:06:41 CET 2010 from 21cust254.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.254)

Posted by:

Steve

Peter, my point wasn't right or wrong but the chances that woman has reasoning with or complaining to the Goth. I prefer to think of it as that little Dutch guy with his finger in the hole the dam. Bonne chance.

For Bill; all words I write are the property of someone else, I can't take credit for being the first to think of them or write them down even in the order I post them in. All I can take credit for is the improper use of punctuation?


Entered at Wed Feb 10 16:57:18 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The second page of the Springsteen case (linked below) makes good sense. Springsteen is totally wrong in refusing to participate … as the article says, he earns a fortune from ASCAP because they enforce his rights. And he owes it to all the small songwriters to defend the ASCAP system he benefits from. Again as the article says, he doesn't have to "agree" to litigate. You do that when you join ASCAP in the first place.In Trades Union terms, Bruce is a "scab", caving in under some sentimentalized newspaper shite about protecting the bar who decline to pay a license fee.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 16:17:32 CET 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Bill M: Yes, Tyson, and I was pretty surprised to see it. Haven't had a chance to listen yet. Each was about $10, really no cheaper than the racks of _Dark Side of the Moon_ et al. at HMV . . . . Starting to see a lot of Beatles material . . . .


Entered at Wed Feb 10 16:11:18 CET 2010 from (41.140.0.250)

Posted by:

bawls99@pochamail.com

Location: usa

Subject: salo

hello all


Entered at Wed Feb 10 16:09:50 CET 2010 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: String Thing

Back in the day, before one could buy custom light-gauge sets of guitar strings, the hot pickers like James Burton improvised by substituting light banjo strings, along with removing the low E string and using the A & D as the sixth & fifth strings. Fred Carter Jr., who came up playing on the Louisiana Hayride radio program at the same time as Mr. Burton, also incorporated banjo strings for his guitar. Mr. Carter replaced Burton in Dale Hawkins' band before hooking up with cousin Ronnie and Robbie Robertson might have picked up on the banjo string trick from him.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 16:06:54 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: I'm with you re online buying. The only things I've ever bought that way are plane tickets. I like what you've identified as the 'serendipity' angle, though I must say that it hasn't been so kind to me as to place a copy of Yellowhead in front of my eyes (assuming you mean Tyson's "Yellowhead to Yellowstone"). When people ask "how come?", I say that I live in a big safe city where whatever I want is easily getable, but that it's not going to stay a safe city if everyone stays home to shop. I help the city and the city helps me.

Steve: You've outdone yourself, especially that lovely second sentence in the third paragraph. As you didn't specify which Joni song you were referring to, I'm guessing that it was she and not you who wrote that Words of the Prophet thing, which is pretty good too.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 15:15:23 CET 2010 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: you've got to pay the dues

ASCAP fights for intellectual property rights, somehow embarassing The Boss.

I've so far resisted the on-line buying thing . . . I guess because I like the serendipity. And I've found a pretty decent used-CD shop near enough to get to once a month or so (latest finds: Tendaberry, BARK, Yellowhead). But even that shop is diversified with new CDs, new and used DVDs, video games, books. I've noticed that the nearby HMV has begun selling books also - a fair selection of pop-music-themed stuff plus an approximately equal quantity of 'hot titles' (currently skewing vampire).

In the same mall there was a simply great locally-owned bookstore. We enjoyed it for a year or so before the recession killed it.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 14:44:39 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Saying the death of the book (following the death of the CD and very soon, the DVD) by free downloads is inevitable is a bit like this. Imagine you’re a Roman woman in your house clutching your jewellery in the 5th century as the Goths invade the city. A hairy barbarian, smashes down your door, grabs your jewellery and starts to rip your clothes off. “Is this right?” you scream.

“Well,” grunts the Goth, “If I don’t steal your property and rape you someone else will come along and do it, so you might as well just lie down.”

Does that make the Goth any less reprehensible?


Entered at Wed Feb 10 14:01:22 CET 2010 from 21cust224.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.224)

Posted by:

Steve

Today , Bob, might have written about the double edged sword that technology is. "I saw a double edged swords in the hands of young children."

Ah, good old Bob, someday pirates will be making knock offs of the actual people like Bob who have such monetary value then today's pirates will be lamenting the good old days and wondering, where will it all end?

Hopefully someone will remember the words of Joni and sing to them; And the seasons they go round and round and the painted ponies go up and down, we're captive on the carousel of time, we can't return we can only look behind from where we came and go round and round and round in the circle game.

There's a reason we cherish the great writers and their songs maybe it's because they seem to get it at such an early age.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 13:39:38 CET 2010 from 21cust224.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.224)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: The Words Of The Prophet

Come writers and critics

Who prophesize with your pen

And keep your eyes wide

The chance won' t come again

And don't speak too soon

For the wheel's still in spin

And there's no tellin who

That it's namin

For the loser now

Will be later to win

For the times they are a changin

Come mothers and fathers

Throughout the land

And don't criticize

What you can't understand

Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command

Your old road is rapidly agin'

Please get out of the new one

If you can lend your hand

For the times they are a changin


Entered at Wed Feb 10 12:23:24 CET 2010 from p4fcac552.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.197.82)

Posted by:

Norbert

Charlie, Glad you liked the Butterfield Tube, I liked it too, good old days kind of thing.

I was in bed with the flu, so I read the whole Brown’s “The Lost Symbol” (a hard copy) yesterday, only that brought me to the lost song post. It’s sad that copying CD’s DVD’s and now eBooks will, and have, cost a lot of jobs and I don’t see these rivers can be stopped. Our www has given but it takes a lot too.

p.s. I know something new will come along your way.


Entered at Wed Feb 10 11:24:07 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Piracy and downloading

Absolutely agree, Charlie. First the music industry went. The UK now has just the one national chain of retailers, HMV. All the others … Virgin / Zavvi, Borders, MVC, Fopp, Woolworths have gone. W.H. Smith now only does the Top Twenty.

Then download speeds increased, piracy got easy and DVD is next. Educational video / DVD is already dead, totally killed by piracy, copying and downloading. I spent twenty years working on the stuff that was stolen. The film industry is makings its last defence with 3D, in the hope of scraping another five years. With Avatar, every trailer was 3D. But that’s only a matter of time.

With books, digital downloads will be the next nail in the coffin. Any security system on e-books will be crackable. That’s not the main loss though. Printing has got so cheap, that printed and bound copy piracy is rife in the many countries with no copyright laws, or so much corruption that copyright laws don’t work. In the education field, we estimate three pirate copies in China, ex-Soviet Union, South East Asia, India, Iran for every book sold legitimately. I heard an example just yesterday of a pirate publisher being caught with 50,000 copies of one book. A $1000 dollar fine, and back in business two days later with a new name.

As Charlie says, Dan Brown … or Madonna or Stephen Speilberg … will survive. But in creating a modest educational video, over twenty people were employed with various skills and none were making that kind of money. In book publishing it’s not “Dan Brown or Stephen King can afford it.” They can, but what about the editors, admin staff, printers, designers, illustrators, photographers, distributors, marketing reps and bookstore people? And also the 99% of full-time authors who are making a living but not earning a fortune. 75% of full-time authors earn below the average wage .

So, if you work in any business or industry that owns copyrights, don’t steal other people’s work by illegal downloading. The counterfeit Tamiflu people made billions worldwide. The whole pharmaceutical industry is threatened by piracy in other countries. As is the fashion industry. The watch industry. Everyone has to think hard. YOUR industry might be next. The warning on DVDs in Britain “Piracy is killing film” is absolutely true. Books are next. Pharmaceuticals too.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Charlie, print publishing industry people are well over a decade behind music industry people in terms of digitally induced mental and financial anguish.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: "To Tell the Truth"

Norbert: I love that YouTube video of the Paul Butterfield appearance on "To Tell the Truth." I had no idea that existed. The one live Butterfield gig I saw was memorable mostly for being really LOUD. That was at a small Long Island club called My Father's Place in the 1980s when Mr. Butterfield was sadly in decline.

Having just lost my book business job along with nine collegues last month, I have to say that "sharing" of illegal copies of books is one of the reasons we're all unemployed now. One study estimated three billion dollars in lost revenue last year due to illegal piracy of digital books. I know people think, "Dan Brown" has enough money," and they may be right. The problem is lots of little people in the chain of bookselling get tossed aside when intellectual property is stolen on that sort of scale. Dan Brown will be fine but many of us with decades in the business have careers that are over.


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks. An interesting story; the Hawks thing is no doubt accurate, though McKenna is always too self-effacing for his own good.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Bill M..."One night Paul Butterfield and his lead guitarist Elvin Bishop turned up to check out the band. According to Suzi Wickett, McKenna’s first wife, both were extremely impressed with McKenna’s guitar-playing style and unique sound. When Bishop asked McKenna how he created such “a sound”, the guitarist graciously explained his secret was in his mixture of Hawaiian and banjo strings used in combination, along with controlled feedback. “It was something I learned from Robbie Robertson and The Hawks,” explains McKenna. “The big thing in Toronto was playing Telecasters but you couldn’t get light gauge strings so what Robbie did was use banjo strings.”


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....as I posted before....Nominate Richard Manuel for Canada's Walk of Fame as well as Rick Danko. Water Street Films is promoting Richard. Garth should also be promoted. When I nominated Rick; I nominated Richard and Garth at the same time.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Wyman

... not to mention the names of the girls at either end of the day.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I’d agree that usually the originals are better, but both The Stones version of Come On and the Chuck Berry’s are brilliant, but different. On It’s All Over Now, I’d sway the points to The Stones anyway. Most bands who did that stuff met it via The Stones and learned The Stones version first.

We discussed the chronology of Money before, and I think I lost. But I still think it stayed in the repetoire because of With The Beatles and the Stones EP.

Wyman gives dates, times, probably to the minute on those tracks.


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: I can't help but wonder if the tune'll turn out to be drunken apostles song from JC Superstar - tumtum all my trials and tribulations tumtum in a tumtum glass of wine, tumtum tumtum we can be the apostles and they'll all talk about us when we've died. Or something like that.

David P: I believe that John Hammond's Red Bird 45 was done in '66, right after Robbie'd gotten off the boat from the Dylan-goes-Europe tour. And that Wyman's on those two tracks but not the others.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I don't know when I became the kinda guy who'd say, "Great song - I wonder if anyone's recorded an enjoyable version!" - but clearly not as early on as you.

You might be right about the Hawks playing to please the teenage fans in dancehalls, and that makes it doubly interesting what they played at the time in Yonge Street bars, where everyone had to be at least 21 years old (except for the Saturday coke-and-chips matinees).

Still, I think it may be significant that "Money" was a big song for soul vocalist Jackie Shane, who played up and down Yonge Street from '62 to '69 with Frank Motley and the Motley Crew then Frank Motley and the Hitch-Hikers. "Money" was on the Motley Crew's 1963 album, and both "Money" and "High-Heel Sneakers" were on the Shane / Motley / Hitch-Hikers' 1967 album. Our guys would most definitely have caught Shane's act: he was a great showman, he was playing in neighbouring bars, and he had a huge local hit with "Any Other Way" (Sue Records, 1963).


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Danville train leaves Brownsville station . . .

. . . with this dude in the Leo da V. bandwagon . . . .

2x (extremely) tenous Band links: 1) the Lenny Breau connection; 2) the principal, a "half Polish, half aboriginal" guitar player, has a little of that JRR thing going . . . maybe . . . .


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Posted by:

David P

Just remembered a Band/Stones link to my last post: John Hammond recorded Bo Diddley's "I Can Tell" b/w "I Wish You Would" as a single for Leiber & Stoller's Red Bird label in 1964. Those cuts, later included on Hammond's Atlantic "I Can Tell" LP, featured Robbie Robertson on lead guitar and Bill Wyman on bass.


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Posted by:

David P

The early Stones also covered Allen Toussaint via Otis Redding on "Pain In My Heart". Mr. Redding "adapted" the song from "Ruler Of My Heart", one of the songs Mr. Toussaint penned under his mother's name Naomi Neville, recorded by Irma Thomas. Another Toussaint gem, "A Certain Girl", was covered by The Yardbirds as the B-side of their first single, Billy Boy Arnold's "I Wish You Would", in 1964.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: The Band in Dan Brown’s The Lost Song

After just finishing my Pirate B*y copy of Dan Brown’s latest novel The Lost Song (which isn’t even official out yet, but already “ shared” on certain sites, great book b.t.w.) and due to the fact Brown is a known fan of The Band (he once wrote J H. an email, but that was before he became famous), I’m pretty sure he ccryptographically mentions The Band several times.

1) On page 54 he talks about a band, write T H E B A N D and count (a=1 etc) that makes 54!

2) On page 344 it says “a pink house”!

3) “An LP with a Brown cover” (page 98)

4) “their bearded drummer” (p:455)

5) “Mr. Caine”(p: 211)

6) “dantheb’ [anagr. Of The Band |N] (p:677)

You never know, but ….


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'd put the difference this way. With The Stones, you thought, "Wow! Fantastic song! Where did they get it?" Then you'd investigate Solomon Burke, or Don Covay or Alvin Robinson.

The trouble with Money / Hi Heel Sneakers / Bring It On Home To Me is that every band did them. You could do them incredibly well, but it was still no introduction. BTW, I still believe that the Port Dover era was covering The Stones / The Beatles / The Animals rather than (e.g.) The Isley Brothers. Not for lack of knowledge, but because it's what dancers wanted,


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Even if we give the Stones high marks for scholarship, I still don't find their renditions enjoyable. I wonder if the Hawks' bar sets varied much from the dancehall sets? Would make sense.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Sadavid: So Barney's a closet Who-er. Who'd've thunk it?


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Posted by:

Peter V

I had four hours in the car today and dutifully went through the new Midlake carefully twice. I don’t hear Fairport Convention anywhere near as strongly as the reviewers did. Coming home, I wanted to relax and went to the Bert Berns Volume 2 on Ace’s Songwriter / Producer series, “Mr Success”. Fantastic stuff all the way, and most of it soul.

Then I was playing around listening to Angel of The Morning (both by Merilee Rush and P.P. Arnold) and it started me thinking of which soul records by British bands fitted seamlessly into a soul DJ’s late 60s set. P.P. Anold was backed by The Small Faces on the record. I realized that for years I’d been admiring Kenny Jones’ drumming, which is especially acute on that track. Brilliant. That led me to All or Nothing, one of those Brit discs you can put between Otis Redding and The Four Tops and no one will complain that the basic style has changed. The Spencer Davis Group singles are all in the same elite Brit Soul group, as are Got To Get You Into My Life and One Way Love by Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers. The white American band that slipped into those 1966-68 disco playlists was The Four Seasons … Let’s Hang On and Workin’ My Way Back To You.

Port Dover: yes, as noted before, Levon & The Hawks were much more obvious (Money was way past its “Best Before” date) in their choice of soul / R&B covers than The Rolling Stones who really found obscure but great stuff like Down Home Girl. But Jagger had an amazing ability to do that sort of stuff.

I saw The Who circa I Can’t Explain, in a sweaty club, capacity about 150 but I’d bet they squeezed double in, then three years later with about 1200. First time unbelievably great. However in the just pre-Tommy era (early 68?) they were REALLY crap of the worst order, proving that few bands are good 9or bad) all of the time. Around the same time, The Kinks were also abysmal live. And I’m a huge Kinks fan.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Hoskyns Hails a Who

Barney Hoskyns seizes the opportunity of the Super Bowl performance to meditate on the Whoeuvre:

"Townshend was Will Self with a Rickenbacker guitar, a misfit icon of choice for every bedroom pop star who didn't look like Roger Daltrey."


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Mr. Helm in Old Virginny

JTF: I had not heard about the Helm/Hiatt twin bill at Wolf Trap in July. I'm e-mailing my brother--who is a Wolf Trap member--about tickets. He got us great seats for Jackson Browne for my birthday last summer, so I'll ask him to repeat the favor since I was a July baby.

Levon and band also just signed on for the wonderful Southwest Virginia world music festival called Floydfest (so named since the closest town is called Floyd).


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Super Groups

An article from NY Newsday on Super Groups. Some current, some history.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Port Dover Soul

The songlist for the Hawks 1964 Port Dover tape is almost exclusively comprised of soul/R&B covers. Highlights include Levon on Lucille, Money, Short Fat Fanny and High Heel Sneakers; Richard on Turn On Your Lovelight, Kansas City, Georgia and Please, Please, Please; and Rick on Twist & Shout and Bring It On Home. (For complete list see Jan's Tape Archive section)


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Can the blue men sing the whites?

Some interesting posts. Peter I was at school when I remember when it was hip to carry the Geno Washington and the Ram Jam Band album. A lot of interesting bands mentioned. I think you would see more in the South, Peter. It was white British bands I would see playing soul.

I did google top 100 Northern soul records last night and noticed a Poets song among them. I've linked the interesting list.

Interesting, Bill M, that our guys appeared on the Holland Dozier Holland boxed set. I tried to buy it with tokens once, but could not get it.

Will seek out that film too, Peter. The Dundee myth is that AWB formed at the art college in Dundee. I know I saw them when they were not big.

Dlew:I'm so glad that I saw the Who at their peak in front of 3000.

Can the blue men sing the whites? British R n B at its peak can match anything. I think whatever it is Dr Feelgood did, it was good.

Since January I've played every Band album. There are four absolutely brilliant albums. MFBP, The Brown Album, Stage Fright and Northern Lights - Southern Cross. And I love the rest.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Leon Helm

Sorry 'Levon'.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Leon Helm

Charlie, July 21, Wolftrap; Levon Helm and John Hiatt. You probably just heard as well.


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Posted by:

Steve

Web: My link

Jian Ghomeshi said yesterday that he was going to announce an interview tomorrow( today) for next Monday that they'd been trying to line up for months. He said it was a high profile guest in league with some of his other guests like Leonard and Van.

I thought he'd finally gotten through to Garth and if not Garth then possibly Robbie but alas this morning he revealed the guest to be some guy named Reed, Lewis Reed.

What the hell! Time for another email in support of Garth. Feel free to join in at the link.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: My screwup

I left one little thing out, which makes the whole effort useless. Try this.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: action!

Hey Lars! I forgot to tell you. Click on Lorne's website here. Then click on "videos". You get to see Lorne's deck hand hauling a hundred & some pound halibut over the side when they were stopped doing a little fishing on a reef.

Lorne isn't too good with the camera yet. He moves it too fast like a lot of people do. But you get to see the fish fight and get hauled over the side.


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Posted by:

David P

I have a copy of the Rolling Stones' 1964 EP, which includes covers of Chuck Berry's "Bye Bye Johnny", the Barrett Strong Tamla hit "Money (That's What I Want)", Arthur Alexander's "You Better Move On" and "Poison Ivy". Mr. Alexander helped put Muscle Shoals on the map as a recording hot spot. The Beatles also covered Alexander, recording a cover of "Anna (Go To Him)" for their 1963 debut album "Please Please Me".


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

Subject: P.I.

... as did Little Caesar and the Consuls around then (1965).


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Poison Ivy comes a-creepin'...

Another British R&B influenced band in the early 60's was The Paramounts. The group, which included Gary Brooker, Robin Trower and B.J. Wilson later evolved into Procol Harum. They released a single cover version of the Leiber & Stoller classic "Poison Ivy", previously a hit hit for the Coasters. The Rolling Stones, the Dave Clark Five and Manfred Mann also covered this song around the same time.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Mixin' Up The Medicine

Medicine Hat Music is also the name of Robbie's publishing company. With regards to the mystery song, perhaps another question for Sebastian to address.


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Posted by:

jan

Web: My link

found your site on del.icio.us today and really liked it.. i bookmarked it and will be back to check it out some more later ..


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Stones were following the normal path from R&B to soul as it was developing with the original artists in the USA too … their cover of Don Covay's "Mercy Mercy" is a good example, but there are loads even earlier … Can I Get A Witness? Everybody Needs Somebody To Love. Tell Me. Pain in My Heart. Bobby Womack's It's All Over Now. Down Home Girl.

The Who were Mods. Mods were into soul.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: the who...

came from a soul background ... Townshend used to quite disparage the yardbirds, and i saw an interview with clapton in which he said well, pete's from a different area -he didn't understand blues. Of course the stones did 'ain't to proud to beg' ...


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Music

When the guestbook is this good I almost feel like holding my breath. Great posts today. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: "Medicine Man"

Bill M: I think you nailed it with "W.S. Walcott." The title Patti Smith mentions made me think it could have been a Native American ballad or something about the Canadian town of Medicine Hat. "Medicine Man" must have been what she scrawled in her diary at the time. Like Dylan's "Chronicles," much of her book seems derived from a diary.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Truh
Web: My link

Subject: Moscow Drug Club

Kevin J: Your talk of smoky jazz clubs brought to mind the gem at the link above, with accordion by sometime Garth-sparring-partner Denis Keldie. You caught BB Gabor and Instabank back in the day, no? (Keep listening and you'll hear Also on YouTube is their classic "Nyet Nyet Soviet (Soviet Jewellery).)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Got To Get You Into My Life

There’s some interesting stuff about working groups in the late 60s. Simon Dupree & The Big Sound and The Alan Bown Set were huge live draws without much of a chart hit (well, Kites later for Simon Dupree). Sleevenotes to their albums say they were making so much live, they didn’t think of records. From memory, circa 1967, both The Alan Bown and Simon Dupree were huge on the university circuit, and charging as much if not more than The Who or The Kinks. My university would book The Alan Bown as headliners and sell out in hours, then have trouble filling the hall a week later for The Who.

A year or two earlier, it would have been Long John Baldry & Steampacket, Cliff Bennett and The Rebel Rousers, Zoot Money’s Big Roll Band and Chris Farlowe & The Thunderbirds (for a link to today’s chat, with Carl Palmer on drums). All were soul / R&B. All put on a non-stop all action show.

Slightly later Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band, Herbie Goins & The Nightimers, Jimmy James and The Vagabonds were major live acts, and charging more than chart bands (and indeed putting on a better show).


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

The above is an encore of John Paul Jones doing Going to California - one of those guys from that era that is still very much on top of things. His current band Them Crooked Vultures with Dave Grohl is selling out everywhere and getting rave reviews.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

Dunc: Off the top I'd say that most of the groups and singers here tended to display more doo-wop than blues influences in their R&B, at least at first. (The most notable exception, especially for this crowd, was our guys with and without Hawkins.) This MAY have stemmed from the fact that the three Toronto groups to have been achieved major international success in the '50s were strictly vocal groups (i.e., the Diamonds, the Crew-Cuts and the Four Lads). So if you were in a copycat teenaged vocal group in Toronto and liked the R&B that you heard on the radio you'd tend to sing doo-wop and then softer soul. Successful examples included the Consuls and the Midknights, both of which had Band links, though both on the instrumental side.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: "Permissive"

Dunc, just remembered. "Permissive" has just been released by the BFI. It's a 1970 "groupie" style film featuring Forever More. I've never seen it, but ordered it from the online rental club. It came up as "long wait" so I might have to buy it.


Entered at Mon Feb 8 22:09:54 CET 2010 from bas4-toronto06-1242458353.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.104.241)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Charlie Y: Well said about Chronicles and thanks for the words on the Patti Smith book. Unlike some around me I always had her pegged as overrated with too much of the cred coming from things other than the music…In contrast to Bowie who had the highest possible cred and also the music…..Anyhow, some years back, I read something that she had written and was really impressed……came away thinking that I had maybe misjudged her all those years before.

Smoking: Basement Jazz clubs the world over are just not the same without smoke….Imagine all the great Noir films without the Femme Fatales and the cigarettes…that was the signal – was it not? Very true about the smell of smoke and how that has changed…one person steps onto an elevator with a smell of smoke on their cloths and you can actually witness others cringing…….I wonder how many years we are away from the same happening to meat eaters. Some vegetarians are offended by having to share space with meat eaters. Not moi but I do know some who are.

Avatar: Saw it at the Toronto INAX theatre yesterday…….very disappointed. I knew not to expect much from a James Cameron film (the man who gave us Titanic and quite possibly the worst dialogue on film since the black socks porn era as I have said before) but this was really a chore to sit through.

The Who: Zak Starkey was the only interesting part of yesterday’s performance…….Notice that he seems to have taken the Gallagher’s hair with him when he left Oasis….

Sebastian: Really glad to know that the answers will be coming soon....….There were some very good questions as I recall….


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Soul

I'm thinking 1966 to 1969 … I'd say soul got replaced more in the big cities, but stayed hugely popular in more rural areas. Friends in soul bands played Dorset and further West, and would pack in 400 odd on a Friday night in Dorchester or Weymouth … both small towns. Then in the 70s on you get the "Northern Soul Phenomenon" where it was vastly more popular in Northern England than in the south.



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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bill M

Soul, which was mainly Tamla up here, was very popular, all over. Local bands would play covers.

And I think that Northern Soul, which became huge, started as far back as this time. But I wasn't aware of it. I'll have to google about it. Northern soul has some real fanatics. I once googled the 100 most popular Northern Soul songs and knew very little of them.


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Posted by:

Claire

Web: My link

Subject: Shutter Island soundtrack

Paul, according to an article about the movie in yesterday's N.Y. Times, the music is "fierce, moody modern music". Speaking of Scorsese, "Mr. Robertson said, 'This was the first time in all these years that he’s ever said to me, ‘God, I don’t know what to do with this material music-wise.’ The solution they came up with, weirdly appropriate to the anxious era in which the movie is set, was to use modern classical music in the way that, in previous films, they would deploy brief, timed charges of rock or pop or blues: here the sonic blasts come from composers like Krzysztof Penderecki, John Adams, John Cage, Gyorgy Ligeti and Morton Feldman. And this music, much of it dissonant, stark, hauntingly repetitious or plain spooky, certainly amps up the film’s thick atmosphere of dread. 'With something like Penderecki’s ‘Passacaglia,’ Mr. Scorsese said, 'it’s definitely bold and to me it reflects what’s going on inside Teddy. If you’re with the film, with the character on this strange journey he’s on, that’s the kind of music you hear in your head.'”

I've provided a link to the Times article, although it may not work for non-subscribers.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks. I'll have to google Nero and the Gladiators. I'm playing 'Flowers' just now. Bumbles liked 'Flowers' too.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

Subject: soul across the Atlantic

Dunc / Peter V: Was soul popular Britain-wide in the '60s, or just in the biggish / hippish cities? Toronto was big on R&B, including soul, through the '60s and the music was very popular in Vancouver, Montreal and Halifax too. Other cities - and rural Canada - maybe not so much.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Nice backed P.P. Arnold? The Nice were on the prestigeous Immediate label?

Seriously, The Nice were a great live band. ELP didn’t have Dave O’List (not a good guitarist) and instrument for instrument were more proficient. I guess it’s all the anti-prog / pomp rock thing. If you look at The Nice, they were pretty similar to ELP and given a time machine to put them side by side, ELP would be better.It’s just that when The Nice started doing America, it all seemed new. Yes were also taking on America head on at the same time.

But a lot goes back to B. Bumble & The Stingers in this genre! Or before that, Nero and The Gladiators.

Which reminds me of an American who knew more about soul than anyone here left, Bumbles. But in general, I’d agree that Britain was more into soul.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Subject: British R n B players etc

Just catching up. A lot of good posts recently. Enjoyed yours, Peter V. In 1968, I probably started going to see Bands seriously, opposed to dances.

I never really thought about if the band was from R n B, Rock and Roll, Soul or in Scotland folk - Stealers Wheel, John Martyn, Rab Noakes. I knew something different was happening. It was some years later that I started to think where our music came from.

I think soul in Britain was important because dancing was important. Think of the Stones on the excellent Flowers album where they covered 'My Girl'.

Perhaps soul was not so important to the Americans who post here.

When Frankie Miller or Maggie Bell talked about playing the American bases here in Europe, a big source of income, they said that if they played a country influenced song the African American servicemen left the hall and if they played a soul cover, the white servicemen would leave the hall.

At that time, in America, was soul music the music of young African Americans?

Also, over the years, three or four times, I have heard American blues guitarists saying it was the Brits who were the catalyst for getting their music played again- the last time being three or four years ago, seeing Buddy Guy in Edinburgh.

The first Band song I heard was 'Rag Mama Rag' when it became a hit single. I never knew Dylan would become so important to me.

Why were 'The Nice' good and Emerson, Lake and Palmer not?

Just now I'm playing and enjoying 'If I could Give Him All My Love - or - Richard Manuel is Dead'. I had to buy this, but as a bonus I get 'Up All Night (Frankie Miller Goes To Hollywood'.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Super Bowl

I really enjoyed this game. When it started out, it seemed like it was going to be another boring, one sided super Bowl. Glad I was wrong. I'm really glad for The Saints. New Orleans deserves some good stuff. Mardi Gras will be double crazy this year.

It was good to see The Who. It may not be "the best" half time show, but it was pretty darn good. At least they didn't have any "Wardrobe Malfunctions" unless you count Pete's untucked shirt.


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Posted by:

sascha

Web: My link

Well while watching some of the news last night, I happened to notice a lot of it while they were digging through that mess, so at least some places they certainly do.


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Posted by:

Paul Schoninger

Location: Lexington, KY

Subject: Shutter Island Soundtrack

Has anybody heard the soundtrack from Shutter Island? I understandd RR produced it for the Scorese movie. Any opines on the quality of the soundtrack? Paul Schoninger Lexington, KY


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Posted by:

Bill M

Charlie Y: "WS Walcott Medicine Show" wouldn'tcha think? It's not as if she'd've tapped Robbie on the shoulder to ask the title of the one he was working on at the time. Anyway, must've been busy sessions, as John Simon has reported that Robbie and Richard were hard at work on "It's Just Another Whistle Stop" even when everything else had been recorded.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: To Tell The Truth TV Show (1966?) ; Paul Butterfield

Some black and white nostalgia TV, Paul Butterfield; To Tell The Truth TV Show (link).

Rick and Paul Butterfield clip (don't know if this is on YouTube also), check:

http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=145099


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Posted by:

Steve

Paul, 12 minutes? Wasn't it almost half an hour?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Patti Smith on STAGE FRIGHT Sessions

On pages 157-158 of Patti Smith's new book, "Just Kids" (Ecco Books, Harper Collins Publishers) she mentions her friend Bobby Neuwirth driving her up to Woodstock to sit in on session for the STAGE FRIGHT album in 1970. She didn't seem to have much in common with members of The Band, but struck up a friendship with engineer Todd Rundgren: "we were oddly similar--sober, work-driven, judgemental, idiosyncratic wallflowers."

Ms. Smith mentions a song I've never heard of in the following passage: "Robbie Robertson was hard at work on a song called 'Medicine Man.' Mostly everyone else drifted off to some hardcore partying [but] I sat up and talked with Todd until dawn..." Anyone here know anything about the song "Medicine Man?"


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Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago

I've always liked the Who, but it was VERY SUSPICIOUS the way they cut away from Daltrey just as he was doing the climactic scream in Won't Get Fooled Again. Is it live or is it Memorex........ As soon as they put out a live album from the 1971-3 period, I'll get it, but it's been 35 years since they had out a consistent new album. The Who at their best always had an anarchic, dangerous quality that required the presence of Moon and Entwistle. What they did last night was a Daltrey/Townshend show, professional and reliable (qualities the NFL would have demanded for that 12 minute slot, and qualities that would have required taped backing). No reason Daltrey and Townshend should put themselves out to pasture, but the Who at their best is 35 years in the past.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Another aspect of the smoking retreat is stage plays. Plays often require cigarette smoking on stage, and in "Private Lives" which we saw last week, they more or less have to chain smoke through the play. For legal reasons no doubt,many plays use herbal cigarettes on stage. I've got used to it, but a couple of years ago they'd light up on stage and you'd think "What! They're smoking pot!" rather than the lettuce leaf "healthy mixtures." I saw an interview with the Mad Men cast and they said herbal mixtures had been manufactured into cigarettes for the series, but by the end of the first series, the whole cast had started smoking tobacco (again) having given up years earlier.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Smokin' In The Boys room

Smokin’ … yes, we were watching Mad Men last week and it brings back memories of people on 40 a day or more. When I was teaching first, in the ten minute breaks everyone immediately lit up in the staffroom. Many would try and get through two in ten minutes to maintain their nicotine level for the next lesson. My old writing partner once got through twenty ciggies in a two and a half hour drive in a Mini. And complained about me opening the window. His car had a thick yellow film over the inside of the windows. When we stopped teaching and started writing full time, we didn’t have a clock, but every 50 minutes (the length of a lesson), he would smoke two cigarettes in rapid succession, then leave it for 50 minutes.

In the 18th century, the whole world must have smelled of shit and that would have persisted until the water closet and mains drainage in the late 19th century.

When I was a kid in England in the early 50s, we had baths once a week and that was normal. The whole world must have been somewhat sweaty.

Then in the 60s and 70s everywhere must have smelled of cigarettes, and at concerts the smell of “herbal smoking mixtures” hung heavy. The public smell of cigarettes declined very slowly to about 7 or 8 years ago, then declined very fast.

I’ve noticed this recently. You can be in a shop and someone comes in whose clothes reek of smoke, and now you really, really notice it. You even notice it when someone walks along the street smoking, and it’s horrible. But ten years ago, no one would have noticed because our noses must have eliminated that smell spectrum.

The ban really has worked because I spent decades barely noticing the smell of smoke if at all. Then I started noticing it. Now it’s disgusting.


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Posted by:

Steve

Norm, I'm surprised you were surprised that that pot smoker was so thoughtful.

Does anyone think Pete's guitar was plugged in during halftime yesterday?

Great football game, especially the second half.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The other side of the coin - (or moon)

What coin????.....any coin. Well y'know Sadavid, I don't think things are quite the same any more as they used to be.

Examples: People don't smoke in buildings any more. Most people don't even smoke in their own homes any more. Just the other day, I was coming home with a load of firewood. Driving up the high way and there is a guy hitch hiking. I rarely give 'em rides any more, but it was a pretty shitty day so I stopped. This guy was clear and dressed desently. He opened the door and stepped back a little. He says,"I gotta tell you, I just smoked a joint, and it smells pretty strong, so if you don't want to let me in I understand."

Well that's a first for me, and although I couldn't give a shit who smokes dope, I really can't stand the smell of it. How ever the guy was courteous, so I cracked the windows and let him in and gave him a ride to town, for which he thanked me very much.

It just seems with the no smoking laws and very strict drinking laws things probably won't be as bad as in the 70-80's. I've watched the shows of this tour on youtube, and particularly paid attention to audiences. It isn't quite the same crowds you would expect at a Steve Earl venue either.

That reminds me, do you remember that old song of Valdey's "Play me a rock & roll song" ?

Peter! You really got took! They're selling those "Moon Units" for about the third time now!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: The Rev neglected to stress that it's not just on the beach, it's also just a short and pleasant sail away from the Isle of Wight. Imagine you and the missus relaxing on deck, listening to the sounds of seagulls and the gentle slapping of turd on condom.


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Posted by:

Right Reverend Billy

Location: Church of Discount Worship, Real Estate Division

Subject: Investing for your Future

Peter-

Consider buying in now for a retirement home in Poole, UK. Right on the beach; recently renovated. Creative financing.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Location: Winnipeg

Subject: tsk

westcoaster: there's been some hand-wringing here lately about the extreme lack of decorum from attendees of public-access events: extreme drunkenness, violence and profanity at Blue Bombers games (well, perhaps that is justified), and loud (young) drunken boors causing Steve Earle to (temporarily) leave the stage at a recent concert. Apparently he wanted to get all folksy and they wanted "Copperhead Road."

The latest cause celebre was the couple filmed in flagrante delicto at Motley Crue's concert. The online blog replies are running about 80 / 20 in favour of the "what part of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll did you not understand?" (i.e. pro-public sex) viewpoint.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Long Road Out of Eden

Well y'all by the video clips on Youtube, one group that (in my mind) has very much improved with time is Eagles.

Last night I bought tickets for May 10 at GM Place in Vancouver for Lorne & I and our wives. It'll be the first concert I've been to in a long time.

The last was Chuck Berry in Vancouver. It was a mess! Chuck was so fucked up, he started talking about a song he was going to play next, then started out on an entirely different song. There was drunk young punkers puking all over seats. I swore I would never subject myself to that again....but from all I've seen and heard, this will be a good show. AS LONG AS YUH CAN KEEP THE LONG HAIRS OUT! Yeah.....good luck.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I thought the Who were pretty good - not great. They came off a little old. I thought Bruce was the best of the "classic" rock age of performers they've had over the last few years. I wonder how long the NFL can keep going with the 'safe' route? Can you imagine - the Who is a safe act to book - who woulda thunk it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I think Billy Sol Hargis and Lars are unfairly maligned. I sent them my $200, and by return mail I got my land certificate proving my ownership of 50 prime acres on the Moon. I’m saving up because I’d like to buy more, but on the bright side this time.


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Posted by:

Steve

Jerry, in 10 years you might be saying you can't forget how good the Who were 10 years ago. What constitutes live in 2010? Maybe the OX will be there in 2020.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

Subject: The OX

Peter M...I agree that it was nice to see The WHO again, but it was hard for me to block out how good they were even ten years ago. To compare them to that isn't fair. John was so much of the back bone of that band that I lost intrest when he passed. Right on to expect anyone to replace a talent like that is not fair.

Above is a link to an OX bio doc I came across a while back. Pete, Sting, Glyn Johns, are just a few who comment. If you've not seen it, it's pretty cool...


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: Zydecological Observatory & Turtle Ranch

Subject: this and that

Jerry, couldn't agree with you more about the preacher scams (Band reference: "Carny"), or The Who. While it was delightful to see Pete give his all, including windmills for old times sake, and Ringo Jr. on drums (I mean Zack, of course), there is NO replacement/substitute for the Ox. Pino does a great job on Townshend's solo stuff or with John Mayer. Nobody can play lead bass like John Entwhistle, and it's unfair to expect anyone else to even try.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: WHO dat WHO / TV Preachers

Love the WHO but they should of called it quits after Entwhistle passed away, it just isnt the same with out the OX. They were still a great band at 911 but not anymore. Roger can't sing anymore and with out John thats way to much to over come.

Glad a few got a chuckle over the tv preachers link. I've been a big fan since Jim and Tammy, and it has to be some of the best comedy on TV. To bad so many donate, who can't aford to...


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: steadfast and resolute

Norm- you know I'd never betray you for a mere $58.

Congratulations to the New Orleans Saints. Can you imagine what the city must be like tonight?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Haints and Saints Kill Colts

Congratulations to Dr. John and the good people of New Orleans for the remarkable victory of their beloved Saints in the Superbowl. As a childhood fan of Johnny Unitas and the BALTIMORE Colts--who moved out of town in the middle of one dark night years ago--it is especially sweet to see the win against the favored Indianapolis Colts.

I can't think of a city more deserving of the victory than New Orleans. I think The Who (and that onsides kick) helped give them the momentum, and that's appropriate for a city built on a foundation of music. My heart is in New Orleans tonight.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Norm, I don't know. It's legend in Ulster County that Lars can be corrputed for just a few flapjacks. $58.00 buys a whole passel of em. I hope you GPSed those signed cds. I heard it's a new option that can be added with the IRSC code.


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Posted by:

craig d

Web: My link

Subject: sally/patti smith

patti's "trampin" is really excellent and her covers album "twelve" is nice as well


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Those Smooth Talkin' Bible Thumpers!

Well I just don't know.......I'd trust ol' Lars with my life, and that's a fact......but.....he gits mixed up with that Reverend Billie Sol Hargis...and.......I'm just not sure. That smooth talkin' sumbitch.......he'd steel Jesus off the cross and come back after the nails. I'm afraid ol' Lars could get hood winked into doin' sompin' like 'at.

But........I don't know......Lars can be pretty stead fast.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: The Who

Best Superbowl halftime show. Ever.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Tom Malone

Just wanted to drop by and mention that I saw horn player Tom Malone, who was on stage for The Last Waltz this past Wednesday as I won tickets to the Late Show with David Letterman, and he plays in Paul Shaeffer's CBS Orchestra.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: TV Preacher Blues

Big Dave McLean, from Winnipeg, does a great song called Tv Preacher Blues. Holger Peterson played it a few years ago and it pretty well sums up that gang of con men.

I don't remembr much of the song but it had lines like, Now stand up and raise your hands to heaven, it makes it easier for me to get deeper into your pockets. There was also a line like, "business is so damn good that I ain't givin up anything for lent, now raise your hands to heaven again.......

Peter V, I was thinking of subcontracting my hit on the pope to god since the 6,000 mile snowball toss wasn't working, at least I hadn't heard anything about the pope coming under snowball fire on the news, but now you say he can't even do a proper lightning bolt hit.

Surprising, because the guy wrote "The Book" on smoting, turning people to stone( Band connection) and a brazillion other ways to cull the flock.

Of course it is the off season, maybe he doesn't get his heater under control til he's had a chance to work out the kinks in spring training.

Hey, Brien, when do the pitchers and catchers report get to camp? I'm willing to wait awhile on the excommunication, I've already waited decades.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Norm, I'm totally lost too, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lars is selling signed copies of your cd, signed Old Tug, for $58.00 bucks a clip.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Subject: TV preachers

One time I sent Jimmy Swaggart $3.50 using a false name & my friend's address, and a sob story about being unemployed, and that's all I could afford, but that there would be more to follow when I got back on my feet. Obviously his "ministry" felt they had a live one on the line, because the followup entreaties for additional monies came rolling in over the next few months, even though I painted a picture of someone too poor for them to fleece, if they had any conscience at all. My "seed faith donation" of 3 1/2 bucks paid off well, and had to cost them many times that amount in time and postage as they tried to get my fictitious mark to part with even more cash. When he was caught with a mother & daughter tag team of hookers a few years later, and was disgraced publicly, I had a chuckle about how he was spending those "seed faith" donations.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Alls I Know About Televangelists

Years ago I heard that someone once took a trowel and removed all of Tammy Fay Bakker's makeup and underneath they found Jimmy Hoffa. He/She never denied it, so I'm taking it as gospel. NB.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the frozen turtle pond

Subject: televangelists

Jerry, thanks for the TV preacher link. I got lost for 45 min watching it, and other associated YouTube televangelist clips. Reminded me of the very early 80's when my next door neighbors were the only people I knew who had cable TV. My wife and I would babysit their two preschool age sons and channel surf, watching the 700 Club, PTL, and PT Barnum's heir apparent, "Reverend" Jimmy Swaggart. We would videotape some of their more outrageous schticks, and make compilation tapes, like Robert Tilton talking in tongues, saying crap like, "Mushamana basecka baseelda". We later dubbed in the voice of Jambi, the genie from Pee Wee's Playhouse, saying, "Mecka lecka hi, mecka hiney ho". When the kids would get puzzled and ask us what we were watching, I'd reply, "Clowns". Good times. One of the kids (now 33 years old) recently asked me if I still had any of the old Jim & Tammy tapes. I remember showing my dad a clip from Jim & Tammy Bakker's wedding anniversary extravaganza, held at the outrageously lavish "Disneyworld-meets-Branson" Heritage Village Resort (timeshares sold at 700% of actual capacity). They were cutting a lush, 5 level wedding cake with a miniature Victorian fountain between the 4th and 5th story of the cake. Little Greek columns held up each layer. There was a fairytale looking little footbridge that spanned from the 2nd layer of the cake to an ancillary cake on the table about two feet away. An employee of theirs who resembled me was standing next to them. When my dad was visiting and asked me, "Do you have any good Jim & Tammy tapes?" I actually convinced him briefly that I had infiltrated their little dog & pony act and had gotten on the show. Yeah, good times!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: King Harvest

Lars! Is this another one of those scams of the great Reverend Billie?.........you criminal!


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Plant a seed

NORM-

Expect...a harvest. Mail your money in today!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: God???

God is around........he just doesn't want to get involved.

Awright!......what gives? .....you guys lost me with this 58 bucks business. I have no idea what you're talking about. Things happen while I'm away. I demand yu fill me in here.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Only Living Metronome

From an early age Jim Gordon was an incredibly gifted drummer. He passed up the opportunity to attend UCLA on a music scholarship, instead attending community college which allowed him more freedom to play studio and live gigs. After touring with the Everly Brothers in the early '60s, he became an in-demand session player. None other than the great Wrecking Crew drummer Hal Blaine described Mr. Gordon as "the only living metronome". According to fellow Domino Bobby Whitlock, the Layla piano coda was actually composed by Mr. Gordon and his then-girlfriend Rita Coolidge earlier in Hollywood. Later, when Eric Clapton decided to incorporate it at the end of Layla, much to Mr. Whitlock's chagrin, two different tracks of the coda, recorded separately by Gordon and Whitlock, were patched together in the final mix by Tom Dowd, despite differences in recording speed and key.


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Posted by:

Peter V

That reminds me of the story about the guy who was sitting around a campfire explaining why God didn’t exist, and why if he did, he was a nasty old man with a white beard.

Suddenly there was a huge crash of thunder and a bolt of lightning smashed into a tree twenty yards away and demolished it totally.

“That proves it!” said the guy, “I told you God didn’t exist!”

Just then a mighty voice filled the air and resounded around the world, “Oh, f*ck! I missed!”


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: The God???

Thanks BRIEN SZ for mentioning "The God" in this gb, that sadistic ugly old male with beard who is responsible for all misery in this world but who is doing nothing about it. - At this very moment He is drinking His daily bottle of Champagne with angels, I believe.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Rickie Lee Jones, Band fan

I love seeing The Band get respect in current mass media publications. Time magazine has a feature called Short List each week, in which a famous person gives five or six choices of his or her favorite, or most influential, authors, musicians, books, movies, etc. On Rickie Lee Jones' Short List this week is the following:

"Roots music -- The Band's songs are timeless. They initiated, with the help of Bob Dylan's Nashville Skyline, a movement toward American roots. This is where it all began. Dylan did country, Big Pink went Appalachian, and we were off."


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Posted by:

Sally

Web: My link

Subject: Patti

It is funny how I rediscovered Patti Smith. As my original message stated, I knew of her when I was in high school; I enjoyed her but wasn't a huge fan. It wasn't until November (2009), my brother had HORSES on CD and I asked him to make me a copy. I began listening to it like I hadn't before, and ding! a light went off. I really got her music; it took me, what?, 30 years, but I got it. I then bought her album LAND, DREAM OF LIFE and this past week, GONE AGAIN (along with the documentary, DREAM OF LIFE). It is amazing to realize that she isn't just a punk rock singer. She is a poet, an artist, a mother, and she seems like an old friend. I think it would be an amazing experience to have a cup of coffee with her. thanks for sharing your experience on discovering Patti Smith! Mike


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: I said 'Carl Radle', I meant 'Jim Gordon'...

And Jeff - yep. As you'd know, often chemistry between players outranks technical ability... though again - Cream had terrific chemistry... but who am I to tell someone who they prefer playing with. What I tried ot say was that I suspect Gordon didn't push Clapton in the way other drummers did, making him more comfortable - however... chemistry outranks technical ability (often)

The other interesting thing is that I didn't find Clapton all that loathsome (my friends apart from Joan and Peter also did). Not saying I'd put up with it, but I guess there was some pity (which, ultimately, is probably worse) for his situation... (strangely, as you know, he's as rich as Croesus, overly talented, does what he loves for a living...)

Sent my $58.00. can't wait for the Cadillac to be sent to me!!!


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Subject: Clapton...and "Just Kids"

I have to laugh every time I see the Clapton commercial for that expensive "limited edition" Fender phone or whatever the hell sort of yuppie toy it is. Back when the grafitti turned up in London with the words "Clapton is God," he was a countercultural icon. Now he's just another carnival barker sellout.

I'm reading the best book by a musician since Dylan's "Chronicles," Patti Smith's "Just Kids." The writing is amazingly sharp, and Ms. Smith veers away from the tired path most of these books follow. It turns out she's much more interesting than I imagined, a brilliant woman with a range of reference that runs from Rimbaud to Tex Avery cartoons. She writes extensively about her relationship with Robert Mapplethorpe and other characters from the late 1960s and early 1970s who passed through the Chelsea Hotel in NYC. Who knew Patti Smith made a living at the historic literary landmark bookstore, Scribner's on Fifth Avenue at 48th Street before she exploded on the New York music scene? The book is full of such revelations without a cliche in sight, and no trace of the endless ego massage most of these books usually provide. It gave me a whole new appreciation of Patti Smith as a major artist whose work will live long after most musicians of her era.


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Posted by:

Peter V

He suggest exactly that himself.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Wasn't Clapton "God" at some point. That can only equate to forming an ugly ego that was pandered and put up with as well as being whacked out of brain for about a decade. So it can't be a surprise that he was a royal prick at one time. When the world bows to your every whim and your young, it's tough not being a jerk.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Clapton's autobiography

Yes, I came to a similar conclusion. His elaborate "pranks" (cut a guy's trousers off, dye his hair blue, take his shoes, dump him in the middle of nowhere without money) indicate to me that I'd loathe him. His one virtue is honesty, but his pride in revealing how deeply nasty he's been to so many people ceases to make it a virtue. My overall assessment, based on his own testimony, would be "psychopath." He's spent enough money on thearapy to have come to the same conclusion, I'm sure.

BUT until I read his autobiography I'd always assumed he wasn't especially intelligent (that view mainly formed from a Philip Norman short story obviously based on him). The autobiography says "Wrong! Very bright guy indeed." But likeable? In an all boys environment, maybe. I thought he portrayed himself as a total four letter word beginning with "c" whether intentionally or not.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: salvation

Wasn't me Norm. I was fortunate enough to have my $58 paid and was spared. Miracles occur in the strangest of places...fancy meeting you here...


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Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: layla

my understanding is that clapton heard jim gordan playing that piano bit, and added it as the "coda" for layla. an inspired addition to the song.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jerry/ Clapton

Jerry, that was great!

After reading Clapton''s and Patti Boyd's autobiographys, mostly what I came away with, is I don't like Clapton as a person very much. Great musician, but not much of a human being.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I agree. I think it all goes with being long-term bandmates etc. Eric throws "best" around a fair bit. I don't think he was seriously doing a league table of comparative merits so much as praising an old colleague.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Peter, not having read the book, and not knowing Clapton's manner of communicating within, is it possible he was offhandedly meaning that Gordon was the best drummer he played with in a band, or for an extended period of time? If he meant best drummer period, it's also possible he meant best drummer for what they were playing in that musical relationship they were in. Which is the best drummer. Me, I loved Gordon's dums. I do think he was one of the greats and belongs mentioned in the same breath as Levon, Gadd, Ringo.I can't imagine any of them doing a better job in Derek and The Dominoes. Souther, Hillman, and Furay was a sort of step down for him, but they couldn't have found a better drummer for themselves. He was perfect on that first album of theirs. Of course, then he flipped out and killed his mom. His piano playing on Layla was incredible, and I always wondered in what manner he and Clapton collaborated on that song. What Gordon wrote and what Clapton did.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Argh Matey!

Joe! I'm just watching the news, and I see a poor guy in Newfoundland in a blizzard trying to shovel his drive way. Was that you???

It looked kinda like pissin' into the wind, trying to shovel in that weather. Out here it'll be 12 degrees today, and the flowers are all starting to bloom. What have you done to piss mother nature off like that???


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Planting a seed

JERRY- that video changed my life. I sent in $58 and waited for a sign. Then I found out that Philadelphia got 2 feet of snow but we were spared. I don't like the Philadelphia Eagles, so I sent in another $58 and I'm waiting for word from the weather channel. If things work out, I hope to have Philadelphia under several feet of snow by next week.

Guess I'll get back to the laundry.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Jerry,

that was great, thanks.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Clapton bio...

Just read it a few weeks ago: I found it interesting for the wrong reasons....

The chapters sort of say it all: it's all very public, wiht very little even a casual fan like me didn't already know. (Maybe I'm a little more than a casual fan...)

Alhough Clapton occasionally admits wrong, I found Dylan's chronicles much more fascinating in his choices: Levon's had their moments; and even Suzi Quatro's were more enlightening...

I think clapton spent so much time as a public figure, very little is private, hence his bio seems ... inessential...

I still think he is a terrific player (though he needs pushing - his idea that the best player he played wiht with Carl Radle, not Ginger Baker (!), Levon (!), Ringo (!), or any other of the marvellous players he's played with: Jim Keltner, Willie 'Too Big' Hall, and on and on... is ridiculous, and I suspect he knows it. He's a man, it seems to me, who's overcome much, and is in a safe place, with no need to prove himself past the boundaries he knows he can prove himself within. He is 65, so that's not unreasonable.

Nice, if unsurprising, description of TLW, though...


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany
Web: My link

Subject: New CD Jimi Hendrix

"Valleys of Neptune is an upcoming posthumous studio album by American psychedelic rock musician Jimi Hendrix. Due to be released in the United States on March 9, 2010 by Legacy Recordings, the album will include five officially unreleased songs, including the title track, which is due to be released as the album's lead single on February 9, 2010. The remainder of the album features previously unreleased recordings of popular Hendrix songs, such as "Fire" and "Red House", and studio versions of previously released live tracks, including "Lover Man" and "Hear My Train a Comin'"."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: British R&B Players etc

The height of Band members always proved to be a variable, based not on the evidence of our eyes, but on allegiance to one or other members.

English R&B players: Just finished Eric Clapton’s autobiography. He seems it important to note as he goes along which guitarists had their roots in the blues (e.g. himself) and which in “rockabilly”, by which I assume he meant rock & roll. Jimmy Page is noted by him as “rockabilly”. It goes back to a basic theme. Most of the late sixties British bands had gone though periods as R&B bands, then as soul bands. The late 60s American equivalent (The Byrds, Jefferson Airplane etc) were more likely to have started out in folk and got “interested in rock” after the Beatles.

Someone’s written on this, but The Beatles (definitely rock & roll, not blues) tied stuff together because of their interest in The Everly Brothers (rock & roll grown out of folk / country) and harmonies, as both Paul McCartney & Paul Simon have pointed out.

There are obviously a huge number of white American players in Clapton’s “blues based” group, many of them having played with him at one time or another. But there’s still a difference in that in Britain in the mid 60s, if you wanted to hear a band playing Hi Heel Sneakers or Respect or Ain’t Too Proud to Beg, then you’d be watching a white band most likely, and if you were very lucky it would be The Spencer Davis Group with Steve Winwood singing You Must Believe Me. I always felt The Band had more in common with these British bands than West Coast American bands. In the late 60s / early 70s, that’s why British musicians admired them so much. There was a strong touch of soul music (the ability to play Lee Dorsey better than Lee Dorsey, as Levon said) that the then popular West Coast American bands didn’t have. Don’t forget that many of those covers of The Weight early on were by African American artists.

The hugely popular British exceptions to “white soul bands” were Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band and Jimmy James and The Vagabonds, but on the whole soul bands were white, and from late 1964 to early 1967, that’s what most bands in clubs played. I assume that if you wanted to hear soul or blues in the USA, you’d listen to the original versions, which left less incentive for young white guys to play it. (OK, The Rascals, Mike Bloomfield, The Allman Bros etc … but this is a huge and tenuous generalization!)

Clapton doesn’t categorize Robbie Robertson in his blues / rockabilly roots division, but having been in Ronnie Hawkins group, it’s going to be “rockabilly” I’d guess, and Clapton doesn’t use the division as any kind of criticism. But he is concerned about the starting points. He also says Jim Gordon was the best drummer he’s played with (a mildly odd statement for someone who’s played with Levon, Steve Gadd and Ringo) and Billy Preston the best keyboard player. At the end, he talks about revisiting the 90s music he started writing with Robbie and “watch this space.”


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Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

Subject: Not Band Related

The best of late night christian tv...lmao


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: Great White
Web: My link

Subject: Burdon

Stormbound tonight.

Listening to Stevie Winwood and Eric Burdon tonight and I take back a whole lot of snarky comments on English R&B players. There's some great Spencer Davis videos on Youtube, apparently recorded in Finland in 67. Link is to 'Rising Sun'.


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Posted by:

Ari

Adam wants to know The Height of the band members. We all know The Weight though. Just thought I'd have a lil bit of phun.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: "One Trick Pony"

I saw "One Trick Pony" in a movie theater in New York City the day after John Lennon was shot to death there. The scene in which Paul Simon's band members played a trivia game about how music stars died was memorably eerie. I later bought the film on VHS and noticed it was finally released on DVD-R through Amazon around the same time as "Carny" last month (on a print-on-demand basis much like many older, less popular trade paperback books are published now).


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Gawdammit Norm

Between Peter V.'s story of the Isle of Wight, Steve's capturing of the phrase 'becalmed in a sea of sewage' and your contribution, I'll be giggling all day!


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Posted by:

Bill M

'69 / '70 saw a relative flurry of musical contributions on Zal Yanovsky's part. His solo album, a non-album 45, some CBC soundtrack work, Kristofferson and an appearance on Tony Kosinec's second album ("Bad Girl Songs"). Plus he and Jim Morrison both got up to jam with a keyboardist friend's little Montreal/Toronto group. Zal fried the bassist's amp while Morrison spilled his glass of wine into my friend's electronics. He wasn't pleased at the time, but is now glad to have the story to tell.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: One Trick Spoonful

Charlie: In 1980 the original members of the Lovin' Spoonful (Sebastian, Yanovsky, Butler & Boone) briefly reunited to appear in the film version of Paul Simon's "One Trick Pony". Their cameo performance featured them playing "Do You Believe In Magic", which has been YouTubed.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Zally...and Best Concerts

Thanks for mentioning Zally, David. You beat me to it. Ten years ago--shortly before his death--Mr. Yanovsky traded solos with Robbie at the RNRHOF induction which included the Lovin' Spoonful.

My best concert list includes The Band in Columbia, Maryland in 1971, The Who in Landover, Maryland in 1979, Bruce Springsteen in Gaithersburg, Maryland in 1974, and Farm Aid here in Virginia in 2000.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Best Concerts

IN the eighties and up to the mid/late nineties I saw concerts by the boatloads. Lots of great shows but I'll highlight a few:

The Band at Caldwell College - this was in 84 I believe. It was an outdoor show. Bonnie Raitt opened. I remember it being a nice summer day, kinda hot. I had the Band a number of times prior to this show but at this one they seemed to really kick it up a gear. All the songs jammed it seemed they didn't miss a beat. In the past there always seemed to be a song or two that lagged or someone was off. Not here - one of the best shows I ever experienced.

The Band at Carnegie Hall - my shirt says march 29 but no year - 1996 I think. Another great show. I had excellant balcony seats and a great view of the stage. It was the first time I heard them with horns in person. High on the Hog was the album and even though it wasn't a great album the three songs they played off it were done right. Of course Remedy and Atlantic City were played, Stuff ya Gotta Watch I believe was also played but then they covered all the necessities from the canon as well. Another show where, from my perspective, not a beat was missed.

Stevie Ray Vaughn and Jeff Beck. It was my second time seeing both but this concert at Madison Square Garden was an absolute rock-n-roll assault. Beck opened and played a little too much of his newer stuff but it was terrific and jammed. Stevie came on and showed the world why he was the best guitarist to emerge since Jimi, as far as out and out rock and roll was concerned. The duo encore was mind bending jam.

Yes - Union Tour. Early 90's I believe. This was a great merge of the old Yes and the new Yes. They came on as a whole group, then the newer members gave way to Kaye, Bruford, Howe, Anderson and Squire for about 4/5 songs - which was a dream come true for me. Then new Yes did a few songs, then the whole group came back out. It was 3 hours of glorious progressive rock.

These are just a couple of shows off the top of my head. I also noticed these were all arena shows. So next time I'll share smaller venue shows.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Kris Kristofferson

At the time of the Isle of Wight festival, Mr. Kristofferson's backup band featured the late-great Zal Yanovsky, a former member of the Lovin' Spoonful who hailed from Toronto.

In addition to being a supporter of Kristofferson, Marijohn Wilkin's company also published several of his early songs. They later co-wrote the gospel-tinged hit "One Day At A Time".


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Water - Water - everywhere

Water, water, everywhere and everything did stink,

water, water, everwhere but nothin' you could drink.

I could go on.......but......I'll leave it to the experts.

There are so many variations that could be added.

You could turn a whiter shade of pale from that kind of "shit".......you know, I was feelin' a little seasick...


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: tying together loose ends

Somebody could tie together the last four posts. What came to my mind was something that mid-'60s editions of the "Guinness Book of World Records" reported as the most popular song of all time, a Mao-era Chinese song with a title that meant something like "How I Like Carrying Night-Soil From The Commune". Hey, maybe a haiku?


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, there's a song in there somewhere, becalmed in the sewage is just too juicy to resist being squeezed for some tasty lyrics.

I asked about the Isle of Wight because I heard a Q interview with Kris Kristofferson yesterday and he talked about the 1970 Isle Of Wight and Leonard Cohen's performance.

He said the concert was out of control, the crowd seemed to hate every act and no one wanted to go out and perform, except Leonard.

He said it was about 4 o'clock in the morning and Leonard went out on stage in his pajamas and a plastic raincoat.

Kris said he went out on the stage in front of a crowd that was raucously hostile and then spent 20 minutes just tuning his guitar, but when he started to play the crowd went quiet and he had them under his spell for the duration.

he had other nice things to say about Leonard a man he seems to have great admiration for.

He also mentioned his relationship with Johnny Cash as well.

He said he was introduced to Cash at the Grand Old Opry by Marijohn Wilkin, so there was even a little Band connection in the interview.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: "The New Song For The Farmers"

I was delighted that Mao Tse Tung's "The New Song For The Farmers" got a well-deserved Grammy. People got pissed off at me, but it stands to reason that if "The New Song For The Farmers" is Mao's best poem, which it manifestly is, then "The Song For The Farmers" is not "as good." That's not criticism, just what the word "best" means.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Sun CEO takes a haik

A new world dawns
for cashless poets
where even crap can yield twelve mil


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: IOW

No. The ferries were full, no one getting on. It's probably less than twenty miles to the island as the crow flies, and a friend had the clever wheeze that we could go across the bay in his sailing dinghy, anchor off shore and listen for free. As it turned out, we got about two miles out and became becalmed somewhere in the middle of the Bournemouth sewage outflow. We fiddled around for a long time watching the effluent and condoms sail past without making much progress for various reasons. I think Dr Hook had a song about that sort of thing. We could hear a bass DUMPH! DUMPH! DUMPH! in the distance in the afternoon but that's as near as we got. We gave up and came home.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Band "Brown" Album

Chris King: It would be difficult to determine if your sealed copy of the LP is an original pressing without examining the record itself. One clue, however, would be if the gatefold cover has a pebble-grain texture, as some later pressing had a smooth cardboard cover. The original pressing, most desired, has a lime-green Capitol label, with STERLING and the initials RL etched in the run-out area, indicating that it was mastered by Robert Ludwig. I've run across copies that have the textured cover and the green label, but don't feature Mr. Ludwig's mastering, so one really needs to look at the record itself.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, were you at the 1970 Isle of Wight concert?


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Posted by:

Sascha

Location: Oklahoma
Web: My link

Subject: fine concert

Worst Concerts is so negative, come on, lets keep it positive. Geez, Todd, disappeared about the same time those christian child traffickers got put behind bars in Haiti. Should we take up a bail collection? Todd, if I prayed my prayers would be with you. I can only hope you had taken this contingency into account and have a sharp file concealed somewhere in your cassock.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Larrikins

Rascal is a good word - a larrikin is now a mischeivous layabout with a slightly 'rebel' streak - think Paul Hogan in Crocodile Dundee, or God help us, Steve Irwin... (a larrikin used to be one of the worst crooks you could get, but like 'naughty' it's been co-opted by others)...


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rick Danko at House Of Guitars....Roch, New York
Yes! Vote for Rick and Richard and Garth! The Hawk qualified but Levon doesn't live here anymore.


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Posted by:

Sally

Subject: Clapton

Crazy Chester...Quote or no quote THAT Clapton commercial sure does make me _want_ that PHONE!... "I've gotta a rock-n-roll heart"


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

I can't speak for any of the variants of Save the Children but the one that I gave to was simply called "Save The Children" headquartered in Westport, CT. One of my clients was making matching contributions, so it seemed like a good way to double the donation. There was no mention of bibles. According to their website, an average of 92% of money collected goes to program services with 8% going to administrative and fund raising. The American Red Cross is the other one that I gave to. They also mention 92% in their literature.


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Posted by:

Chris King

Location: Modesto, CA

Subject: The Band Album

I was researching my album for validity. It is sealed and I need to verify that it is legitimit and original, anyone have any ideas on how to tell. STAO 132 Capitol? email me at vinyl33@live.com please


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Band height

What were the estimated heights of the Band members? This was discussed awhile back... anyone remember?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Or perhaps the judge is a fan of West Side Story and Peter Pan?


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Posted by:

Peter V

In all those sixties court cases, the newspapers had much fun with the dinosaur quality of judges, as when in the Lady Chatterly's Lover trial, the judge said to the jury "Would you let your wife or servants read this book?"

It's a sit-com cliché that judges live in the distant past, but even a pretty long-in-the-tooth judge will now be a child of the 60s. I think they know what "hook" and "riff" mean. They may pretend not to though.


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Now you've got me associating that judge with the one in the spoken intro to Long John Baldry's "Don't Try To Lay No Boogie-Woogie On The King Of Rock And Roll": "Expert witness, what is this boogee-woogee music with all these riffs and hooks that you're talking about?"


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Posted by:

David P

Bill M: It's also notable that the Judge's opinion includes music notation as part of the analysis. No doubt the Judge incorporated the terms "riff" and "hook" from the expert testimony.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Leave "larrikin" to Dlew in the morning. My translation is "rascal."

Anything that gets money there is great. So, yes, do whatever. Personally, I'm massively prejudiced against The Red Cross. We taught a lot of their Swiss employees in the 70s, all based in Geneva, then the most expensive city in the world. And their secretaries earned three times what we did as teachers. Since then, I've never given them a penny.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: souvenir de Kate

A thoughtful tribute to Kate McGarrigle from sweet songstress Connie Kaldor. . . .


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Posted by:

Steve

Todd, International Red Cross, is probably the best bet. Once you get into groups with names that are variations on Save The Children and there seems to be lots of them, you have to be more careful.

The Christadelphian Save The Children fund is interested mainly in getting bibles to kids in need. Here, chew on this!

We gave money to World Vision after the tsunami and it was only when we started getting requests for more cash we realized they were as much into saving souls as lives. Now we just give to the International Red Cross twice yearly.

Norm, I guess I'm not afraid of bogey men so I don't need any agency promising some kind of afterlife soul-protection insurance.

Would you like my membership in the catholic club? Even though I've never been into a church except for the occasional wedding or funeral since 1970 I seem to be a highly prized commodity as I was explaining to Todd.

It's probably easier to get your name off the US No Fly List than to get it off the Catholic rolls.

I decided to try and get off the list when I realized that when the Catholic church says that 80% of Quebecers are Catholics they were including me, I wanted out. I'm just not a joiner of clubs, I cherish my free agency status.

I've read that one way to get automatically excommunicated is to cause physical harm to a pope. What are the chances I could throw a snowball from here to Rome? The next time he sticks his head out that window he waves from I'm going to heave a snowball in his direction and pray.


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Posted by:

Jennifer Kushner

Location: Los Angeles

Subject: Levon Helm Photo

Does anyone have information on this photo?:

http://theband.hiof.no/band_pictures/wise/levon74.html

Trying to secure rights for an upcoming documentary about Levon Helm. I believe the photographer is named Wise. Any leads most appreciated. If you know anything please email jenniferkushner@yahoo.com.

Thanks!


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Funny, but a judge saying 'riff' and 'hook' makes me cringe a little - like I used to do whenever a parent would try 'groovy' or 'hip' back in the day.


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Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Down Under

It is interesting to note that although Judge Jacobson concluded that the two recorded versions of Down Under infringed the Kookaburra copyright "because both of those recordings reproduce a substantial part of Kookaburra", he also noted that "Nevertheless, I would emphasise that the findings I have made do not amount to a finding that the flute riff is a substantial part of Down Under or that it is the 'hook' of that song." (Link to text of opinion above)


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

dlew: Doesn't 'larrikin' mean, in Strine, something like 'bandit'? If so, an interesting name choice for the Kookaburra publishing company in the story that sadavid pointed us to.

Kevin J: I believe that Jimmy Oliver plays on at least one of the CDs released by the excellent Montreal Jubilation Gospel Choir - see link. Certainly Jesse Winchester's organist, Ken Pearson (ex Full Tilt Boogie Band), is on one or two of them. I'm pretty sure I saw him in one of Mike McKenna's barbands in the late '70s or early '80s.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Actually it says:

"The court heard that two of the four bars of Kookaburra were reproduced in Down Under's flute riff, which was added by band member Greg Ham after the song was composed."

That's half the flute bit, so I guess "substantial." On theother hand it would't take us long to think of many deliberate quotes or "nods to previous songs" done in fun. Many of the various Genetic Methods have clever little quotes here and there. It's what classical composers and jazz musicians always did. Usually they did it with folk songs. They were unlucky here in that Kookaburra sounds like an old folk song but wasn't. The copyright holders of Happy Birthday are relentless in pursuit of their dues too, long after the original writers went to heaven (or purgatory, I never quite get that one).


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Heart of the Matter

A key component under U.S. copyright law is that one may not copy the "heart" of a work without the author's permission. No matter how brief the "sample" (in this case four bars), the Australian judge apparently ruled that the clearly recognizable melody line of "Kookaburra" had been used without permission.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in OId Virginny

Subject: Sampling

Sadavid: I agree that is a bad ruling since that flute solo seemingly should fall under the same category as "sampling." On the other hand, The Allman Brothers did give Donovan Leitch co-author status on their long improv, "Mountain Jam," based on his "First There is a Mountain."


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Serpent & The Rainbow

Surely, some of you have read this book. Concerning Zombieism in Haiti many years ago and the research the man did. Pretty scarey stuff, (unless of course if you're like Steve and don't believe in anything). Then you have no worries.

Hey Todd! Where ya been?? Yeah! I like that one, moooody cows, perfect.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Down under

It's a bit of an "Ouch!" judgment. Two bars in the entire song? And those in a flute solo? It's what Dvorak or Holst would have called a "musical quotation" rather than plagiarism. If it's the solo rather than the main melody that's borrowing, surely it's not stealing the song?

On the other hand there are a couple of Van Morrison songs where he'll put in a single line of "It's a Man's man's world" or whatever, and he seems meticulous about co-crediting James Brown or whoever.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: latest pop "plagiarism" ruling

Bad judgement.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Steve, I just wanted to assure you that I was not locked up in a jail in Haiti. So far I've only sent money there via the Red Cross & Save The Children organizations.....hopefully that's still OK to do.

When I said that I leave adoption up to the experts, I was NOT referring to the group who was trying to bring kids to the Dominican republic. In fact quite the opposite. I believe that adoption should be done through the proper legal channels. I just wanted to clarify in case you misread my statement as being in support of their actions. I don't know enough about the specifics of that case to comment.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, Marge and I saw Judy back in the mid 70's at New Port. Even back then she was doing quite an eclectic show and she was as good way back then as you described.

Todd, didn't purgatory get canceled or was that limbo or is limbo just a dance I'm confusing with some part of catholic mythology?

I do have to disagree with you on what that group of kidnappers was up to. If you're stealing kids it's not adoption your participating in.

If you look into the battle Christians have been waging against voodoo since the slave revolt it would explain why there are so many Christian missionaries in Haiti and why kidnapping is not off the table when it comes to "saving" souls.

Yes Norm I've seen some re-bar as well but generally it's not used and since they build with cement earthquakes are all that much more deadly.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I was delighted that Electric Dirt got a well-deserved Grammy. People got pissed off at me, but it stands to reason that if "Dirt Farmer" is Levon's best solo album, which it manifestly is, then none of his other albums are "as good." That's not criticism, just what the word "best" means.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Months too late, bu witha Grammy win - what did I think of Electric Dirt

I've listened to it four or five times now (bought it the night before Levon won the Grammy). I really, really, really like it. It's great to hear the mandolin in so many tracks...

I read the various reviews, and agree that it's not quite as good as 'Dirt Farmer', but then name me 5 albums without Levon on them that are... ok, smarties, 10... I liked 'stuff you gotta watch' but I'm unfamiliar with the other versions Levon did... I'd probably give it 4.5 stars... and certainly it helps give the Grammy's some credibility


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Posted by:

dlw919

Subject: Thanks Peter - I knew you'd be hte guy to ask...

I'm going to consider it very strongly (thanks to the weak australian dollar, things are very expensive concert-wise) (I think it's about .65 AUD buys one UK Pound (and .90 buys a USD) - plus, of course, performers and crew have to fly out here, etc... /n 10CC I always found a really interesting band - what does everyone think?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Kenny White

I picked up his "Never Like This" EP … I'll go online later and look around the albums. Thanks. I'd never heard of him, but really excellent, with interesting lyrics and brilliant piano playing.

Rodger Hodgson was superb when I saw him about two years ago, and you'll come out singing some of his very strong later solo stuff too. I think it was about £25 in Bournemouth though … and like Judy Collins, it was one accompanist. Not that you noticed any lack.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Still a Free Man

Steve, not to worry. I leave adoption to the experts. I appreciate your offer of prayer, but I support your right to non-believe what ever you want. However, it sounds like you have enough going on with your local Bishop, so please don't compromise your principles on my account. Just remember, you’ll get another shot at redemption in purgatory if you have a change in perspective someday.

I don’t have much to say about Christopher Dodd except that he spoke at my high school graduation about twenty-five years ago. At that time I had no idea where he stood politically, but I remember feeling very under whelmed by his commencement address. I’m genuinely surprised that he managed to maintain a career in politics for all of these years, although he seemed to like the sound of his voice, and maybe that’s the only pre-requisite for that particular industry. My guess is that he's been coasting on the reputation of his father (who was very popular in CT) for years.

Norm, the cows aren't mad.....they're just a little MOOOdy.

Peter V, Aside from Larry Campbell on guitar, Amy Helm sings a duet with Kenny White on his ‘Symphony in 16 Bars’ album. Other connections are Paul Ossola who’s played bass at several Rambles, and Catherine Russell on vocals.

Congratulations to Levon and company on the Grammy win for Electric Dirt. Well done!


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: did we ever find out....

whether Levon actually played 'TNTDODD' in the ad break at the above rendition of Tennesee Jed on Letterman? I remember the distinctive Toussaint-arranged intro being played at the ad-break (and David P. confirmed that he thought it was - even if I doubted it, that's enough for me) - Letterman gives it a big rap - the break 'if you're not in tonight's audience, there's something wrong with you'...

Any thought?


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Concerts...

Roger Hodgson anis performing here, supported by 10 CC: would it be worth $100.00 in a small venue? (Note, not Supertramp)


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: OH!.........and

Bonk! I forgot to say......."Midnight Eagle" was one of Eddy Molyski's (who did my recording in his studio) bands.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: They're everywhere!!!!!

Hey Bonk! Good to hear from you. We're every where! Hope you're having a good time.

Kevin; That would have been good. I don't know any body that goes to China........I don't think?????????

Steve! I remember you making a comment during the first days of the Haiti catastrophe, that you "thought" they didn't put any rebar in the concrete down there.

Well while watching some of the news last night, I happened to notice a lot of it while they were digging through that mess, so at least some places they certainly do.

You know this mad cow thing. For quite a while, and (I just deleted it a while back), I had a quite a big blurb from the Agriculture administration in the USA. This was a couple years back, and they had 500 cases of mad cow down there that they had been covering up. Those women who do that CBC show, what is it, "Market Place"? They were at one of the farms down there filming, and trying to ask questions, and they got "kicked out!"


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just back from seeing Judy Collins. Sublime. Small theatre, front row, low stage, and absolute magic. As well as the full songs she performed, she must have quoted from two dozen others while telling her stories. She has a gift of being able to sing ANYTHING, in any genre, perfectly, which has shaped her life and the stories are dotted with sudden bursts of four or five lines from everything from The Kerry Pipers to This Land Is Your land to Some Enchanted Evening to Sloop John B to Scarlet Ribbons to Day-O (Banana Boat Song). All fit seamlessly.

One lovely story was how her true introduction to folk was NOT Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie or The Weavers, but Jo Stafford, who did a folk album with Barbara Allen on, which she heard on the radio.

Another piece described how reviews / publicity for Susan Boyle said that Boyle's version of "I Dreamed A Dream" trounced the Judy Collins version. She pointed out that she'd never recorded it nor sung it … until she read the review. Then she sang it for us perfectly.

The support was Kenny White who was so good I bought his EP in the interval. Just opened it up and discovered the connection … Larry Campbell plays on two tracks.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Sylvester the Stone Cat

Bill M: You are of course correct -- it was entitled "Laugh Laugh". Sly & the Family Stone played at the Woodstock Festival on the second day, between Creedence Clearwater Revival and Janis Joplin, followed by The Who, who closed that evening. The Band played the following night on the last day of the festival.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M……No…the word local was a bit misleading…..the person in question was Jimmy Oliver….who I believe was a Montrealer in town for shows or to stay with people…….a troubled but lovely guy who had played with Jesse Winchester many years previous……


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: ps

Joan: Thanks for passing along the Kristie news.


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Glad you mentioned Sly's success as a producer both before and during the Family Stone days. "Milady" is a great example. I think the Beau Brummels song was "Laugh Laugh". He also did the Tikis, who became Harper's Bazaar, a member of which was Ted Templeton, later a very successful producer in his own right. Including Michael Jackson, I believe.

Kevin J: Would the bassist have been Prakash? The first time I ever heard of him was when the GB's own John D, in 1970 when I was an avid listener to his afternoon show on CKFH, reported on going to an overheated Sly and the Family Stone Show. He mentioned that the show was opened by Bush, in their first show in Toronto post-Mandala, and that their new bassist, Prakash, had almost fainted from the heat in the auditorium. Prakash's next step was to join Funkadelic for their "Chocolate City" and "America Eats Its Young" LPs, in which he and Bootsy Collins played dueling amazing bassists. Bootsy'd been with James Brown previously, so it all connects.


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Posted by:

Steve

The good news, Lars, is that we were able to redirect all that beef rejected by Korea your way where it's sold right along with all other beef with the USDA stamp of approval. Those damn Koreans are on to us and our contaminated beef. You're good neighbors.

Good to see your serious concern for our beef export markets though. Keep me informed on the ins and outs will you I just don't have the time to spend on it, I'm spending my free time trying to sever my ties, even as a statistic from the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

What that guy at the battle of Maryse Heights said about it being easier to get in than to get out seems to apply to the Catholic church a well. The local bishop seems to have taken a liking to me for some strange , really strange reason. I'm thinking I might have to do a cross burning or something else kind of drastic to get removed from the team's lineup.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Joan…Be so kind to ask Kristie if she is still wearing that hat? As to whether people are getting along, please tell her that Steve has moved from questioning Todd’s political leanings to implicating him in international kidnapping schemes……..so yeah – everyone is getting along fine……

Saw “Up in the Air” last night…..a superb film…..anyone else see Anvil yet?


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie

Recently Bill M asked about Kristie. She is traveling in South America. I'm pasting in her reply to my note.

am well. Having a great time. Argentina is beautiful! I really miss my music though. I have been without it toolong. I havent heard a Band song in three months! Tell Bill M(if you wouldnt mind)that I am very excited to hear the new eaglesmith. Nice to hear people are thinking about you. How are you? Cold winter this year?Is everyone gettingalong in the Gb? Kristie


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Atheists who refuse to use corks to stop global warming

I was alarmed to read that South Korea has banned imports of Southern Canadian meat from heathen cattle farms, polluted and non-polluted.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, Worst Concerts is so negative, come on, lets keep it positive.

Geez, Todd, disappeared about the same time those christian child traffickers got put behind bars in Haiti. Should we take up a bail collection? Todd, if I prayed my prayers would be with you. I can only hope you had taken this contingency into account and have a sharp file concealed somewhere in your cassock.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Your Chinese Guide

Kevin J … according to that recent book, the Chinese crossed the Pacific and visited the western coast of North America. So what was to stop Norm doing it the reverse way? I'd bet his tug's more seaworthy than a 15th century Chinese ship. I would just delight in another example of coincidence.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Five years ago while in China, if that guide I had mentioned having discussions of TNTDODD with had suddenly mentioned that she knew Norm – I think I would have flipped!......................Great story Bonk…

More stories on Worst Concerts please…..always fun to hear about….


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Posted by:

Steve

Funny Photo Jan. What I'd like to see though is a team photo of the senators in their corporate uniforms complete with logos. In the case of the senate it might be educational to have the amount of cash paid to each member by their bosses.

Maybe the cash value of each member would go across the top back where names usually go on sports uniforms.

Case in point is Chris Dodd and his merry gang of bank employees on the senate banking committee.

Any wonder the committee is reluctant to deal seriously with the credit card industry. Dodd recieved $7,000,000.00 from the banks in the last political season. The others made less but were well compensated for their "work", none the less.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Hey, DLew, thanks for the shout-out! I'm always here, lurking quietly, enjoying (most of) the conversation.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Jersey Girl?

How are you? Long time no see!!!


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Agrigento

Yes, Peter, I'm pretty sure those videos of Robbie were done in Agrigento. There are six Greek temples in a row along a ridge overlooking the sea, an amazing sight, especially when lighted at night. The one in the video looks like the Temple of Concordia. Sicily was invaded at some point by almost every civilization in the world, because of its strategic location, but Greece held it long enough to have left a big footprint. There are, I believe, more extant Greek temples in Sicily today than in Greece.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: USA

Listeriosis.


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Posted by:

BONK

Location: Salt Spring Island

Subject: GOD DAMM NORM!

Norm. Small Goddamm world. I´m in a little town in Mexico called Melaque in a little bar drinking beers and the odd tequillia with a bunch of other guys who I don´t know. Music and The Band comes up and of course I have to mention this site and your new CD. One of the dudes pipes up and says, I know that guy and his brother. He says his name is Ian and you would know him from a band called Midnight Eagle. This freaking guy knows every guitar slinger on the West coast like forever. Like I said, small world. Had to share that with you.


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Posted by:

Crazy Chester

Location: Austin, TX

Subject: help me out - Eric Clapton quote?

Didn't Eric Clapton once call The Band something like "the greatest rock group in history"? Couldn't find it on google ... maybe it wasn't Clapton and I'm getting things mixed up?


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: The Underwear Bomber and The Under Aware President

Hmm, which is ultimately more deadly.

Looks like Ronnie Ray Guns is bringing down planes over the US long after he took his final nap.

The inquiry into what brought down that plane over Buffalo seems to point right at The Under Aware president. If what Ronnie's air brain controllers wanted was under paid, over worked and under trained employees( AKA, competition in the airlines industry)looks like this is the result.

With these kind of fly by night operations carrying half the travelers in the US there are more important changes to be made to the airline industry than further feathering Chertoff's over stuffed nest.

Do you think Ray Guns was a one man Al Kaydie sleeping cell? The last time I saw a picture of his bride Nancy she was wearing some kind of long black veil. Hmm.

This needs some kind of inquiry. Strike a committee, give it a huge wasteful Washington type budget with a very limited mandate to make sure no one can be held responsible and then have it report back in two years when no one will remember it even exists or why.

In the meantime keep funneling the money to Chertoff and friends and adding names to the millions already on those no fly lists.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Purple Reign

As the Minnesota Vikings' team colors are purple & gold, during their recent success the slogan "Purple Reign" has been adopted with a tip of the helmet to Prince, who has watched several games from a private skybox. Prince played during halftime at the Super Bowl three years ago in Miami. This year's halftime entertainment, as the Super Bowl and the Colts return to face the Saints in Miami, will feature The Who. This leads one to wonder if we'll hear the strains of "I hope I die before I have a wardrobe malfunction". Lest we forget, Prince at one point wore a doo-rag during his Super Bowl performance in Miami to protect his locks during a not so purple rain.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Prince has also lost the plot but more interestingly has done so straight……..at least Sly had excuses…….the latest in the Prince horror show was a song he wrote after attending a football game in Minnisota a few weeks ago….not sure what was worse…….taking the time to even think about writing a song for football players or the song itself…….


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Posted by:

Peter V

According to the Mojo article, the other person seeking Sly was Prince. It's fascinating because when you play those 1969 to 1972 Sly tracks, they sound more like Prince than anything else.

I thought those Robbie clips were the Agrigento show in Sicily, because Agrigento is a complete Greek town - in classical times that part of Sicily was considered to be part of Greece, and there are still Greek-speaking villages inland in Sicily. I may be wrong, but I'd never heard of him playing Greece, I've been meaning to compare the (great) clips with the Agrigento VHS I have from Italian TV broadcasts, but haven't had a moment.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

A good memory of Sly Stone…….I was in a club early 90’s talking to a well known local bass player……he was going on about James Brown and I was agreeing with everything he was saying….he then started in on Michael Jackson and his genius and he lost me a bit….then he got on the subject of Sly Stone….I said that I had been too young during his heyday of late 60’s/early 70’s but yeah I did know how respected he and the band had been……the guy then says he could tell I didn’t really understand and goes over to the DJ booth and has the guy put on “I want to take you higher”…played on a great system at high volume in a club….and I really did understand for the first time how special and joyous the music of Sly and the family Stone from that period was………a shame about the drugs….


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Worst Concert

Maria Muldaur at McMaster University, Ontario, in the early 70's. Only a mid-sized venue but she appeared stoned or drunk from where I sat. Crap sound too, particularly in contrast with the sound quality of her albums. NB.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Music Trivia for Peter....'cause you're probably right that those clips of Robbie and The Red Road Ensemble were from Italy and not Greece.

"Paul Simon's "Bridge Over Troubled Water" was written in 1970 as a tribute to his friendship with his partner Art Garfunkel. But their relationship became strained and the two even disagreed over whether Garfunkel should sing the song. According to Simon, the song's third verse was Garfunkel's idea. Simon wrote it but says has never liked it. Despite such disagreements and doubt, the song became their greatest hit, and spent 14 weeks at Number One!"

When I saw Robbie at Canadian Music Week....He really praised Sly and The Family Stone's music at the time. They were one of the bands that he couldn't wait to hear what they'd be putting out next. I only have their Greatest Hits. Our admistrative assistant told us that when she graduated from High School her (gay) teacher played full blast Sly's "Every Day People" while they went up to get their diplomas. I wonder what Sly would think about that connection!

Lyrics and video of "Everyday People"


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Just posted today. Robbie gets blessed in Greece with a little help from his friends.


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Posted by:

Peter V

In the Mojo interview this month, Sly claims they had $45 million from him.

Looking on the bright side, Sly's late sixties / early 70s albums are as good as it gets. Ev'ryday People, Dance To The Music, I Want To Take You Higher then later Family Affair. Fantastic music.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Last Laugh

The latest in the sad saga of Sylvester Stewart a/k/a Sly Stone is that he filed a $50 million lawsuit against his former manager & others last week. Mr. Stewart, who contends he is currently living on social security income, alleges that the defendants diverted a large amount of his royalties for their own use over the years.

Before he became famous as the recording artist Sly Stone, he worked as a disc jockey & record producer in San Francisco. Among the acts he produced was The Beau Brummels, a talented but now often overlooked group, who had a big hit with the song "Last Laugh" in 1965.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Sly & Worst Concerts

Sly has been a very sad case for decades….that stumbling around in front of the stage not really having any idea what he was doing or what was going on was sadly exposed to the world a few years ago at the Grammys when he was given some sort of lifetime achievement award….for those that saw it you will recall an all-star band had been assembled and the whole thing was quite awkward as they played after the introduction for what seemed like a few minutes before Sly finally came on stage… sat down at then didn’t really do anything……..a good memory I do have of him was on David Letterman about 10 years ago….he was sitting in the chair beside Dave quite wasted and the exchange went something like this….Dave: “So I’m glad to hear that you are going to be putting out a new record” Sly” “Yeah, Yeah”…..Dave: “Ah…so what kind of record will it be?”….Sly: “A hit record!”

Worst concert: The Eagles at a racetrack in Ottawa 1978 I believe which was the backend of the Hotel California world tour. Joe Walsh saved the show from becoming a disaster as his 2 or 3 numbers actually got people in the mood….I believe he introduced “Rocky Mountain Way” by saying something like “Hey Ottawa – time to wake up”……A Dylan show during his foggy years in the early 1990’s was right up there with a Sly Stone experience in that no one – not even the dedicated - had any idea what was being played……a friend with me asked about 30 minutes in “are these songs from his religious period that you were telling me about?” By 1995, Bob’s world had cleared up and I have since seen many great shows…….I wonder though what my long lost friend must think every time she hears about Bob coming to a town near her!


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Posted by:

sascha

Web: My link

Hi it´s a great site, thanks for watching


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Worst concerts

I've only walked out of three shows. The Beach Boys - so awful. The best thing that happened was this girl stripped naked for the crowd before the show started.

The Fixx - liked their music. They were just boring. So numbingly boring that we left to get feeling back into our limbs and mind.

The Band - Within weeks of Richard Manuel's the Band played at the Capital Theater in Passaic New Jersey. The Gregg Allman band and the Dickey Betts Band opened the triple head act. They were great but when the Band came out they were so flat, awful and boring, that it broke my heart ( i had seen them several times prior to Richard's death and they were always great) - we left before the show ended, just couldn't bare to watch it.


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Posted by:

Steve

The McGarrigle concerts I saw were also different, maybe, unpolished, would be a suitable term.

When we saw them in 93 here in Lennoxville at Bishops University Kate kept forgetting the opening lines to her verses but it was a McGarrigle show so no one got upset, it was almost part of the show. Anna would just help her out of the hole and the song would go on.

Their shows were almost house parties.

At the 93 show, Rufus was there as was Martha. They'd come onto the stage from time to time and join in, sometimes in the middle of a song. Twice during that concert they started songs then stopped once to cancel the song because Kate didn't want to sing it and another time because Kate wanted to try the song with a violin added to it which they'd never done before.

Gilles Losier, the fiddle player was not on the stage so they had to find him and then he added some violin to a song that hadn't had any violin in it til that moment. It worked quite well.

But there was no down time while they waited, it took about about 10 minutes before they started again but during that time Kate and Anna practiced some harmonies they were going to do on a later song. A kitchen party. A great time was had by all.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Worst performance?

Mmmmm.... I'd have to say seeing Guns and Roses in about 1989 at the Sydney Opera House. The first act, Kings of the Sun (now presumably defunct and not to be confused with current dance band Empire of the Sun) were terrific... Australian 'legends' The Angels came on - they were bored, adn hence Boring!. About 1 hour after the Angels inished, G and R came on. they did a couple of songs - way, way, way too loud - you couldn't hear them! Allthe frequencies cancelled each other out, so it was just an oppressive noise. Someone through a piece of paper at AXl, and they walked out for 20 mins. Axl came back on, and lectured the audience on throwing things on the stage. (name dropping Lemmy from Motorhead, which did nothing but snd the crowd ino mindless cheering). They did hte rest of the show. they weren't BAD, just.... bad... if that makes sense...


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Posted by:

Steve

Judging from the quality of ALL the live "bonus" tracks on American Beauty and Workingman's Dead I'd have to say take your pick of Dead concerts for some pretty shoddy work.

I only saw them once live and since I fell asleep I'm not able to honestly comment on that show.

In spite of that, several of their songs( studio versions) are among my all time favorites; Uncle John's Band, Ripple, Box Of Rain, Friend Of The Devil, Sugar Magnolia and a handful of others are all top notch. Live they were certainly dead.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cruel February

As a seasonal February thread, how about the worst performances?

If we go outside music, it would be Phil Silvers in a revival of A Funny Thing Happened On The way To The Forum. We assumed he was paralytically drunk, but it turned out afterwards that he was very ill. He didn't know any of the lines or what was happening, and I couldn't believe they just didn't bring the curtain down and stop the show. We left at the first interval, as did most of the audience, as we had to queue to get out of the theatre car park.

I was especially saddened as he was my father's favourite actor (my dad was a Sergeant in the motor pool too, and thought Bilko a semi-documentary).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks for the Sly link. When I saw him in July 2007, it was about the worst performance I’ve ever seen by a major star. You just wanted him to get off, because the Family Stone doing Ev’ryday People without him were better, though not good. Sly only staggered through a couple of songs, unfortunately the second one was different to the one the band were playing. The show ended with the audience booing before lining up to ask for refunds.

In the Tokyo video he’s very feeble, but at least they had him sitting and he knew some of the words, and it’s affecting. Mojo just did a feature article on Sly, which is uncomfortably reminiscent of “Juliet Naked.” The journalist spent two years tracking him down and hired a private detective.

As a contrast to Sly Stone, I'm going to see Judy Collins tomorrow.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the pond

Subject: Grammy

I feared Wilco or Taylor Swift would run off with it, but was thrilled to see Lee get (again) what he deserves! Congrats to the team at LHS (yeah you're right Barbara, Perry et al...). And Larry, how do you like dem apples?


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Grammy

Well done Levon. Two in a row!


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: iTunes

I already posted this on FB. If it wouldn't be too much to ask, if you're signed up with iTunes, would you mind taking a minute or two and writing some nice reviews for your favorite Band albums? Sorry it's taken soooo long but I'll be back in the next week with some of the answers to the many questions you submitted for my dad. Congrats to Levon on the Grammy. Cheers.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: NB - nb

The beatles may well have not rehearsed, or had 'it'll be right on the night' rehearsals.. In other words, it sounded rough in rehearsals, but in front of an audience, it'll be great! Except it wasn't ... Then at least....


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Posted by:

NB

Wouldn't The Beatles have realized the very same thing about their own playing when they rehearsed ? Surely they rehearsed ? And surely without fans present, screaming or otherwise. I'm not saying it didn't happen just as you related it Dave, but this question did come to mind for whatever it's worth. NB

PS. Can anyone talk Taylor Swift into touring Japan ?


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

The relatively polite audience response in Japan is one of the reasons the Beatles stopped touring--on their tour of Japan in '66, they could actually hear themselves well playing live for the first time in years...and realized how sloppy they'd become as a live band (the footage from Budokan confirms this).


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Kevin J...

Japanese audiences are notoriously politte - no mindless screaming... a lot of artists go, are horribly disappointed at the reaction, and then realise later (through sales, fan mail, etc) that they were huge hits...


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Above link is Sly live in Tokyo last year......I guess Tokyo really is a tough place to score given how good Sly looks and sounds....amazing but lovely to see......


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: a musical question

Doesn't Sly and the Family Stone's "The Skin I'm In" sound like a cross between "Life Is A Carnival" and "Everyday People"?


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Latin: The Deservedly Dead Language

As I recall Bill, our school's motto in Latin was "Semper ube sub ube". (Loose translation: "Always wear underwear"). NB.


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: No fair. I clicked your link in the belief that I was going to get to see someone perform "The Blackfly Song" but instead got Robbie in rock-star mode. Notice how even his shirt has a pose; it's the same both here and in one - maybe #5 - of Wade's (?) photos posted last week.


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Posted by:

Bill M

NB: You were lying? I just thought I'd missed them, having been a total nerd at the time of my closest brush with Latin - never mind latina. Which was in Dr Kuk's classroom in the extra-curricular hours, Kuk being at the time both the Latin teacher and the host of the chess club. Graham G must've been in the club club. You?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bill M: "The Black Fly Song" created a huge hoopla at my school. Some saw the song as not politically correct!

Black History Trivia: "Bob Marley's "No Woman, No Cry" contains a line that refers to the "government yard in Trench Town," the Jamaican public-housing project where Marley grew up in the late Fifties. Marley gave a songwriting credit on the song to his childhood friend Vincent "Tata" Ford as a contribution to help keep Ford's Kingston soup kitchen running."

Robbie Photo 1976?
uploaded by joiseyboyy


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: Hot Latino Spartanettes ?

Oh Bill ! Look up "literary licentiousness" in your F**k And Wagnall, or better still, go see the Ricky Gervais film "The Invention of Lying". (Surely you know by know that I just make up the facts as I need them).

Speaking of fellow Spartans, our mutual former friend Graham G. successfully qualified for the Senior European Professional Golf Tour and placed 32nd in his first event. Before the tour resumes in March, he's spending the first two months of 2010 hitting balls every day at a driving range with heated stalls in Ottawa. There's dedication for you . Maybe he can wrangle a long underwear endorsement out of it from Stanfields ? NB

PS. I had no idea Taylor Swift is better than Dave Matthews, and would still be thinking it was the other way around were it not for The Grammy's. Thank you Grammy's !


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks Sadavid, I was aware of it's studio use but wasn't aware of it's live performance capability.

But to au contraire you mon frere ami, I'm not trop tard since my angle was to cash in with my catchy "Live Aid" moniker for the device which in your link was referred to in the most noncommercial, unmusical way as a rack-mounted auto-tuner. Yuck, yuck, yuck!

Unfortunately it does remove Jeff's side of the deal from any big-time cash in. Sorry Jeff.

Jeff, maybe a remote control that can turn off or "adjust" Live Aid from anywhere in the audience. Hmmmm.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Either that or a 50+ Quebec farmer clad in shit-spattered overalls and armed with a degree from GBU.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Log Driver's Waltz

BEG: I liked your McGarrigles-related link (on Basement Rug). As it says at the start, the song the McGarrigles and partners are singing, "The Log Driver's Waltz" was written by Wade Hemsworth - see my link. His best known song is "The Blackfly Song". I can't find the book right now, buy I'm pretty sure Hemsworth is one of the worthies namechecked by Garth Hudson in that Best-Canadian-Albums book when he talked of the important singers and musicians he'd come to know through CBC radio in the '40s and '50s.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Auto-tune

Steve: pitch-correcting gizmo exists, see [My link]. T'es trop tard, mon ami.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

A sign that you are getting old: When all the good stuff at the Grammys – all the stuff you would have wanted to see takes place at some point before the telecast……..at least the great Jeff beck got some air time….but didn’t Les Paul deserve more than 3 minutes! The rappers that followed got close to 12 minutes for goodness sake!

Great writing indeed in that Gill piece…….two years from now he will no doubt be replaced at his paper by a 24 year old blogger that wears his pants like Lil Wayne………


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Posted by:

Steve

Jeff, I don't watch award shows but heard from a trusted source that Ms. Swift can't sing on key, live. The critic I heard says she was flat from beginning to end.

What's the chances of working up a little digital( I know it's not your preferred technology)gizmo that can be used by singers in live performances to make them sound like they're hitting the center of the notes. You come up with the device and I'll sign over my rights to the name " Live Aid" for your invention.

One last, Kate McGarrigle, story before her funeral today. In the mid 80's they released one of their most radio friendly rockers, Love, Over And Over and Over.

Kate said they knew they had a really good song and were hoping it would get lots of air play.

When she mentioned this to a friend he suggested getting Mark Knopfler to play guitar if they wanted airplay.

Kate, says they hired Mark and the song got the play they thought it deserved. She said the song was written during their " Bronte Sisters Period". Anne, Charlotte and Emily even make an appearance in name in the song.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Congratulations to Levon for two in a row, against some real competition.

Band-admirers Kings of Leon won something too, I'm not sure what.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Ilkka and Westcoaster: Lay down your arms - neither of you deserves a penny. A key but under-discussed point of the chorus is that it's a mixture of "na" sounds and "la" sounds, an ambivalence that captures the fact that a whole bunch of people in the US South weren't at all displeased with the outcome.

BEG: Thanks for the links to the Robertson videos. Wish there was one to the Six Nations Women, who turned up uncredited (that I saw) to sing a song on the First Nations channel that Rogers cable carries. I'd still like to know the lead singer's name. As for Wilcox, he does a remarkable cover of Neil Young's "Trans" on the "Borrowed Tunes" comp. Cuts out the electronics, leaving a beautiful acoustic song.

That was Rita Coolidge in buckskin on Robbie's "Skinwalker" video, so I guess that was Priscilla on the other side of the blonde woman. On drums it looked like the evil latino bowler from "The Big Lebowski", but I could be wrong. NB's our expert on latinos, so I'll leave him to confirm or correct. (Gotta say, Spartan, that I don't recall any such babes at the old school.)


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, thanks for Gill's article, it is great prose. His one line on oil was brilliant.

When he points out that Blair has lost the ability to conjure up the "Diana moment" either because he's lost the ability or doesn't care, it's the latter of course. Blair no longer needs to pretend, he can just be his slimy little self now, he's got his future secured and he's not finished. Now that he's been appointed as a Mid East "peacemaker" partly by people he appointed to their positions he can carry on the crusade he began with Bush.

Like his brother in harms, Bush, when you're God's personal instrument on earth you can do no wrong.

Hopefully some day citizens will reject anyone who claims to be guided by god, we've all seen the results, over and over and over.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Midlake

Midlake’s new one The Courage of Others comes out today. They’ve suddenly achieved that Fleet Foxes style instant importance. More strangely, every review of the new one (4 stars) harked back to the previous one, The Trials of Van Occupanther which they said was even better (5 stars). In common with most of my friends, I’d never even heard of the earlier one, but saw it at £5 in HMV on Saturday and picked it up. It is indeed stunningly good, and as the reviewers said, highly reminiscent of CSNY in their glory days.

The new one is said to be the result of a new obsession with British folk of the Fairport / Steeleye Span era so very different. I’m just off to buy it …


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Tony Blair & Iraq Enquiry

The link goes to A.A. Gill's article in yesterday's Sunday Times on Tony Blair's performance before the Chilcot Enquiry into the Iraq War. As ever with A.A. Gill, it's fine writing.


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Posted by:

Bud Shaver

Location: Oregon (currently)

Subject: Levon the Champ

Way to go Levon! How are my GB dawgs doin'? I'm rockin in OR with a 8 month-old daughter! Anybody know of a good convent?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Congratulations to Levon Helm. Note that in his category, Americana, the nominees were particularly strong this year … Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson, Wilco and Lucinda Williams, which makes it all the more rewarding.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Eclectic Grammy

Taylor Swift winning Album of the Year certainly does lessen the value of winning a Grammy.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Levon

Congratulations on winning his second Grammy. They never televise the good stuff.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Don't thank me, but...

I finally bought 'Dirt Farmer' last night. Levon wins the grammy this morning. Coincidence? I hesitate to say so...

PS - Congratulations to Levon - most well deserved. Most well deserved indeed.


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Posted by:

Ari

I'm real happy for Levon


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: full moon

We've finally got snow, accompanied, as it were, by freezing rain so that everything has its coat of ice. Been snowshoeing tonight under a full moon, in an eerie landscape with Patsy Cline and Willie Nelson playing. Stiff and sore legs tomorrow. Life is good.


Entered at Mon Feb 1 02:43:48 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400562.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.26.114)

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Congrats to Levon and his Band....again!

"As soon as he learned, Helm was on the phone with "Electric Dirt" producer Larry Campbell and co-producer and daughter Amy Helm. His manager Barbara O'Brien said he was “just speechless.”

“What, what?” he kept saying.

Reached from his Woodstock home, the typically humble Levon Helm referred to all that helped him on the album, at his rambles and through the comeback from throat cancer — including his daughter, producer and fans.

“It feels like everybody's efforts all added up, and this is what we got," Helm said. "I'm humbled. It's a community effort from where I sit.”


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