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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, August 2009


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: Sorry, I neglected to address your question about Hammond's Red Bird sessions. Leiber & Stoller had a long & successful track record (excuse the pun) working with Atlantic artists. It seems natural that they would revive the working arrangement with Atlantic after they divested themselves of their Red Bird ownership. It also seems likely that they might have retained the rights to Hammond's Red Bird session recordings and helped Hammond secure a deal with Atlantic. The legendary Atlantic engineer Tom Dowd also moonlighted on Red Bird sessions back then.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Connections

John Hammond seemed to be an odd fit for the Red Bird roster, among the Dixie Cups, Shangri-La's & Butterflys. Another acquaintance of Mr. Hammond's at the time, Jimi Hendrix, would later sing about butterflies and zebras, moonbeams and fairy tales, which sounds more like the names of Red Bird groups. Around the time that label changed hands, Ellie Greenwich "discovered" a young Neil Diamond and she & her husband Jeff Barry produced his early recordings for Bert Berns' Bang label. Mr. Barry also worked on the early Van Morrison Bang sessions, including singing background vocals on "Brown Eyed Girl".


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Album 1 - 1987

22 years later….5 of the 9 songs have stood up very very well – my order of preference…..Showdown at Big Sky….Sony Got Caught by the Moonlight….Broken Arrow….Somewhere Down the Crazy River….Fallen Angel……. Agree that the U2 stuff was hot air but disagree on American Roulette – whenever I hear it on the radio ( which is always a surprise but has happened recently ) I turn it up with some enthusiasm….simple little rock song but so what – a good one…..As to Storyville – a great work that was in need of better casting…..much like the material on Roger Waters “Amused to Death” stands up to the best of Floyd – almost true of the songs on Storyville in comparison to the Band – exempting the perfect Brown album.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Hoskyns

Based on past performance, I don't see any good reason to pay much attention to Barney Hoskyns' opinions about the Band, its members or its members' music. To paraphrase him slightly, his emissions are mostly mere blasts of hot air, overblown trumpetings of rock 'journalism'. "


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Hoskyns On J2Rs ATGD, Pre 2000 Remaster Dumping

Robbie Robertson Album: Richard's death prompted 'one of the few good songs' on " Robbie Robertson", he refers to J2Rs as being opportunistic when it came to getting U2, the biggest band on the planet, involved in the recording of two songs on the album, Testimony and Sweet Fire Of Love, which he describes as, "mere blasts of hot air, overblown trumpetings of rock 'spirituality'."

Listening to Robbie blustering his way through 'American Roulette' or the hamfisted,'Hell's Half Acre', with their overblown themes and lyrics was excruciating.

As a kind of concept album centered around his own identity as a " half-breed" the record showed Robbie overreaching himself and getting lost in flights of airy verbosity.

The awful truth was Robbie appeared to have become a kind of Hollywood ad man.

He goes on to talk about how it was probably better that the idea for a film called 'American Roulette ' never came to fruition.

Peter, what has Barney been saying since 2000 that is more scathing than this?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: Thank you……….in a quirky way I find that I appreciate this site more while travelling outside of the country. After taking a few minutes each day to check on e-mails, I invariably end up in this guestbook – certainly beats reading USA Today or watching the abysmal BBC International …..I like to think that the lot of us here were 10 years ahead of the tweetering/facebooking masses…….Funny sidelight to this is the ladies in my life tell friends when asked if we are on Facebook…. “Well Kevin isn’t…believe it or not he spends time each day checking out this Bob Dylan website” … when I correct them that it is a Band website, they all just roll their eyes and explain that it is too complicated to tell people because 9 times out of 10 people don’t know who The Band is!!.... I love them despite this…


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: I Can tell

In 1966 if a Rolling Stone wanted to be on your session, you' d have simply said "Thank You" even if you had already booked a better bass player (e.g. Rick Danko). Apart from name, I can't think anyone would have chosen Wyman first in most circumstances. After all, the best Stones bass parts are supposed to be Keef, though Wyman was perfectly capable of playing them live. I think anyone in Hammond's position at that point in time would have chosen Bill, and given the content in terms of material, he would have been fine.


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Posted by:

Steve

Location: Ireland
Web: My link

Subject: Last Waltz Revisited

Hi there, hope everyone is well! We recently played at a really great "Last Waltz Revisited" gig featuring a load of bands from Northern Ireland. Check out our versions of Down South in New Orleans and Ophelia. Hope you enjoy!! Just click on the web link above! Cheers! Steve


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P / Peter V: Because Wyman mentions that Stones management didn't approve of his decision to record with John Hammond, I just assumed that the rest of the album was recorded in the following days - with Rick Danko as a last-minute replacement. So if I'd noticed in the liner notes that the album hadn't been completed until '67, I would've figured that Hammond had fiddled with some things here and there on the Red Bird tapes just prior to final release on Atlantic. But it was really totally different sessions with mostly the same guys? Why would Atlantic have complicated its life by issuing the two orphan Red Bird tracks, as opposed to simply rerecording them? It's not as if "I Can Tell" had been a hit 45 that the world was clamouring to have at 33.

Kevin J: Welcome back. I was hoping that you hadn't left for good.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Lou Reed, Assorted

A few thoughts after spending some time away:

* A DVD worth recommending: Berlin…..a beautifully directed concert film. The original album passed me by as I was a bit young at the time and while I loved Walk on the Wild Side and Sweet Jane, the only Reed album I have is New York……anyhow, popped Berlin in to VCR machine and was mesmerized for the next 80 minutes…..The concert is taken from 4 shows in 2006 when he played the entire Berlin album…with one or two additional tunes added at the end.

* Caught Jacob Dylan on the Elvis Costello Spectacle show and thought he was great.

* Hoskyns: Says a lot about a guy when asked to sidestep an issue that he goes ahead and repeats what that same person told him years ago….called missing the point – is it not? I wonder about the guy and will never forgive him for the plain lack of class he exhibited towards Rick Danko following Rick’s passing……..that all said, he did write the definitive book on The Band – flaws and all……

* Kudos to this website: While I was away, I was glad to see a proper acknowledgement of the passing of Robbie Robertson’s mother in the what’s New section. Not completely sure why but it did make me feels a bit better about spending time in this place.

* dlew: Scorsese did get the last laugh on the Stones by showing the ultimate absurdity of their career such as it is/was in 2006….make no mistake - the inclusion of that scene to start the film showing Hillary Clinton’s mother attending their concert was a FU to the group.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Empty N: Thanks for the Meskoud link in particular.

BEG: Had a nice time with NB&NG on Wed. They really enjoyed their visit with you beforehand. Thanks for helping us hook up. I gave them my spare "Good Friday Songs" CD by Fairuz, figuring that if they appreciate the religiously tinged passion of "Tinderbox" .... We'll see.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: I Can Tell

John Hammond Jr. initially began his "I Can Tell" sessions for Leiber & Stoller's Red Bird Records. The title cut b/w "I Wish You Would", produced by Leiber & Stoller, was released as a 45 single on the Red Bird label in 1966. Subsequently, Leiber & Stoller had a falling out with their partner George Goldner and sold their interests in the label. Mr. Hammond hooked up with Atlantic Records and completed the album under their auspices in 1967.

There's a Red Bird connection with Ellie Greenwich, who passed away last week. Ms. Greenwich, along with her husband Jeff Barry & Phil Spector, wrote "Chapel of Love", which was recorded by the Dixie Cups and became Red Bird's first big hit 1964.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I would note that Hoskyns tune changed significantly after his liner notes for Band remasters were dumped by Robbie in favour of Rob Bowman's notes!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Uncut Levon article

UNCUT #149 (October 2009)has a significant Levon Helm interview by Barney Hoskyns "Empire of Dirt" with a great double page photo. Hoskyns as ever is a good interviewer who knows his Band stuff. He does get the direct info on Woodstock:

"For Helm it was simply a bad gig - he recently refused to give his blessing for any Band numbers to be included in the Woodtock 6 CD box set."

Hoskyns finds he is "politely asked to sidestep" the "Fued" issue, so he simply repeats what Levon told him last time he interviewed him several years ago (for Rolling Stone.) Hoskyns also declares that Dirt Farmer and Electric Dirt "trump anything Robertson has done as a solo artist." I think that's untrue, and while Dirt Farmer is as good as any post-Band solo album, it's not better, and I'd rate the first three Robbie solo albums as better than Electric Dirt (without even mentioning songwriting).

BUT it's an excellent interview and worth getting the mag for. It also has a major Who retrospective and reviews of The Beatles Remasters.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Bruce Bruno

Last seen at this site in 2000, see link above.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Location: Blauvelt

Subject: Bruce Bruno

What ever happened to the vocalist Bruce Bruno???


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: What shall we do

With the drunken sailor - er-lie in the morning! Lars! you old rascal. Haven't heard from you in a while. How ya been keeping?

Thanks for the wishes Lars - Norbert - Dee.

Norbert, I was watching that same vid of Clapton too. That whole concert is great stuff.

Well I'm away to sea in the morning. Y'all take care of one another. Lars, Susan and I are likely going to Australia in November. Maybe somehow we can make a stop coming back or something. Then again November in your town can be brutal.

What I know for sure, next summer, August, September I'm going to make damn sure I can go where ever and do whatever I want!..............Later


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Carla Zimmerman (83, Hamburg); " Bob Dylan has Wilhelm’s nose"

Link; the story about the 83 year old lady (in 2004) Carla Zimmerman, from Hamburg (Germany) who phones the newspaper on a Friday at 6 pm. to tell the reporter that she is the ant of Bob Dylan. The story is only in German.

Anyway it’s about Dylan’s nose and Wilhelm‘s nose, Dylan’s Father Abe (who used to be Hans according to Clare), etc. The reporter looks her and her 53 year old daughter Kathrin up in a quiet street apartment in Hamburg.

.... "Mother and daughter have spread their genealogy research results of the Zimmermanns on the dining table. There are photos, newspaper pieces\ cuts, research from the Internet, E-mail, magazines, an album a photo book ‘The old Russia’. On the flower vase, in the middle of the table, leans the cover of the CD ‘Blonde on Blonde’; where a slightly unsharp photo of Bob Dylan is showing the artist at the age of approximately twenty-five.

‘There he looks really cute’ Carla Zimmermann says ’ clean and proper’. And now look at that. She points on an old sepia colour family photo of the Zimmermanns, ‘ the man there on the right’. Then point again to Dylan.’ This small face and that‘s clearly William‘s nose.’ .... “


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Shine a Light - Scorsese and the Stones

Just sw it for the first time: I must say Buddy Guy and the Stones doing 'champagne and reefer' is one of the best blues performances I've heard in quite some time. Band Connection, normal: Scorsese directed Last Waltz; Band Connection, lateral: Blondie Chaplin plays guitar in the backup band; Band Connection, anorak, Buddy Guy was on the Festival Express train and film; Band Connection - political: President Clinton introduces the Stones - in 1976,the Band played for President Carter; David P. Style Band Connection: (he'll have to insert it...)


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Wolfgangs Vault

I've been listening the 74 and 76 concerts from Wolfgangs Vault over the last week or two. What strikes me is how good The Band sounded live back then. I have read comments that both TLW and BTF were overdubbed but they don't sound too much different from these sound board recordings. Rick and Levon get a real funky beat going at times.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: High Wide & Handsome: The Charlie Poole Project by Loudon Wainwright III

This arrived today and at 1st-listening I think it's going to be a great one . The producer is Dick Connette (?) and it appears he was every bit as involved in all its aspects as LW. A few guests appearances, mostly the folks one would associate with the Wainwright crowd. More later after a few more turns...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: I Can tell

I found an earlier post on this (if I can wade in):

The tracks with Bill Wyman were cut on the evening of 23 June 1966. Wyman kept a meticulous diary and gives dates for everything. On the 23rd June he flew London-New York. Hammond phoned him just after arrival. He drove over to the studio and says: “I played bass alongside guitarist Robbie Robertson, and various others, cutting three tracks.” We learn that he then went back to Hammond’s, drank, smoked, met a girl called Suzanne, spent the night with her at the Holiday Inn and on the 24th flew to Lynn for a concert. The book has this sort of detail with numbing repetition. (see p 380). So the tracks with Wyman date from June 66, telling us that RR was working right after the European tour ended in May. Wyman says he played on three tracks. Two of which are on the “I Can tell” album. I’d assume that the rest of the album was done in May 67 as it claims on the sleeve.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: I Can Tell

I've been listening this extra-scratchy John Hammond LP recently and I find it to be top notch still. Any factoids on this one David P?


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY

From one Virgo to another.


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Posted by:

Tracy

Web: My link

Subject: R.I.P. Larry Knechtel

Amazing body of work with so many artists. Looks like The Great Gig In The Sky has another one.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Concert

Norm that’s my fav. Too, check the link and see Erik Clapton do Don't Think Twice It's All Right . “Eric tore down the house that night. and then he walks away like another day at the office” someone wrote.

So many great songs from that concert, I special like O’jays (you just have to move your feet, wife or something during this song).


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Posted by:

Norbert

Norm, Happy Birthday!

Peter, maybe Mr. Best was right, what really else is there to life? Anyway, at a decent house and there you are.

Norm, you’re right, I quit smoking too and have no clue where the money is gone either.

With the above in mind, I’m off to get a copy of Operation Valkyrie!


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: El Anka

Empty Now: Of course I had those 5 minutes... and they were not waste at all!


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods of NY

Subject: Happy birthday TO you.....

Norm- Avast. Red-right-returning. Keep yer bow into the waves and I forgive you for making me search every inch of your boat for a can of elbow grease.

I hope you have a GREAT birthday--hard to believe you're sixty five. At least you still have a full head of hair, unlike some of us who are in our 60's. You work like a man in his prime.

I was going to e-mail you to tell you we both like the same version of Dylan's "You Ain't Going Nowhere." And to let you know that now that all five of the girls are scattered around, we have plenty of room for you and Susan. If you recall, in return for staying here you agreed to simonize my car. Now DON'T get mad, I'm just kidding you. Happy Birthday Westie.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I was so much older then.....................

Having turned 65 @ about 07:00 this morning, I figured I'd treat myself to some memories of my youth.

I watched on youtube the best of the best. My favourite job of "My Back Pages" at Bob Dylan's 30th anniversary party. Another one I had forgotten about.

The Lineup: Roger McGuinn - Tom Petty - Neil Young - George Harrison - Eric Clapton and Bob and the rest of the band. The best solo I remember watching Eric Clapton play. Not difficult or fancy, just real tastey in a great song, with the best of the best.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Re: Steve

i dont follow the official taxonomy in my posts, but i think that 3rdW was first used in the non_alignment context by 1955, as a distinctive class of free countries (not paricularily ex-colonies) which were neither in the Western camp (1stW) neither in the Socialist camp (2ndW)
in fact we were then at the dawn at the decolonisation era, as one goes along and every new state which achieved independence, joined the 3rdW camp in a natural way (i guess there was no room in the G7 for a newly independant ex-possesion of a colonial empire terrirtory )

Band Connection : The South Shall Rise Again


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Posted by:

Peter V

George Best said: 'I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered'.

BUT I think this saying has been atrributed to at least ten people. In Britain we always quote George Best, probably the most talented footballer of the lot.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Web: My link

Subject: Great song; great performance

enjoy


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Worth it ALL??

Norbert; Now I almost bust a gut laughing over your poderance.....that's funny. But think of this. I quit smoking in 1980, when my son was born. This thanksgiving it will be 29 years. I did the calculating one time as accurately as possible with price increases. That was a few years ago. I figure I had saved $60,000.....SO WHERE IN HELL IS THE GAWD DAMN MONEY??? .......Does that answer your question.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: 3rd World Countries

Empty Now, when did the countries known as colonial territories become 3rd world countries? I'm not sure of when the transition happened? One day they were colonial possessions of European powers that were collected or given away when wars were won or lost and then suddenly they became 3rd world countries. Just curious about when the transition happened.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: money on music

Just wondered how much money did I spend on music in my life, LP’s ,cassettes, CD's, DVD’s, Amps, speakers (always on top), concerts, etc., is it worth all? or should I’ve bought that open sports car? No!


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Pack up your money, pick up you tent Heff

westcoaster: For a change of pace, check out the youtube video of the Byrds (Clarence White-era), nattily attired & coiffed, performing "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" and "This Wheels On Fire" on Hugh Heffner's old Playboy After Dark show.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: You Ain't Goin' Nowhere -Woodstock

I was thinking about different versions of You aint' goin' nowhere, so was surfing around youtube, and came upon my favourite that I had forgotten about. I hope the web page works. It's at Dylan's 30th anniversary party.

At the same time, I found a lot of Woodstock material, from "The Lost Performances". One of the best times I heard the "Weight". The video is real cool too. A lot of shots of the chaos of Woodstock, trying to control traffic etc.

There is also a vid. of the "Weight" 1989, with Rick and Robbie up front. Robbie sings the first verse, Rick the second etc. For my money Robbie did a desent job singing that song, whether you like him or not. I liked it.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Ilkka / Re: El Anka

Ilkka: you must have missed a lot of my posts, Donald Duck with throusers and Paul made my internet searches somewhat confuse. in summary El Anka (1907-1978) of my current concern created a one-man musical style called Chaabi, Algiers speciality. He recorded about 128 LPs produced by Columbia Records Company, no Dylan, no Santana, no Springsteen, no Julio Iglesias ever dreamed of such a number, as you see our third musical world is really the world of immoderation

in the link above, the best short biography in English vailable on the net, if you have 5 minutes to waste


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: where do we go from here?

See [My link] for a nice story with a bit of a moral. No particular Band relevance, but you will find "Levon Helm" and "GPS" in the same sentence . . . .

Ilkka: In Canada, we call Donald Duck "Paul Anka."

I read recently that Switzerland has prohibited any Google Street photography, presumably on the premise that every street is private . . . .


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Street photos

Google Maps has a feature so you can see the "street view" of the address you are looking for. I was looking forward to seeing my house, but alas, it was not there. The reason, The entry signs to my street (a circle) harken back to when this was a private street, so they did not photo it. Apparently there was a great uproar when they tried to photo private streets and drives, so now they do not enter if it says "Private".

Charlie, I like GPS, but I love maps. Give me a good map anytime I like TOPO maps.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: No Direction Home

I learned to navigate with one of those free folding road maps gas stations used to give away free in the USA. I was twelve years old and my mother, two brothers and I had to drive from Vista, California to Galax, Virginia when my father won an all-expense paid trip to a glamourous spot called Da Nang in 1965. We took Route 66 a good part of the way but had to re-route due to floods in some areas. I came kicking and screaming to the GPS world, but I love that thing and wish I'd had one back in '65.

I think that misguided Dylan GPS story did come from the UK where "Theme Time Radio" apparently does air on the BBC. I read that Homer Simpson's voice IS actually available on one brand of GPS, though. I assume if you get lost with that one, instead of saying "recalculating" it offers, "D'oh!"

Speaking of Bob Dylan: I was happy to learn the proceeds from Mr. Dylan's upcoming Chrismas album are going to help feed hungry people.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nodic Countries

Subject: Who is "El Anka"???

EMPTY NOW, who/what is this "El Anka" in your post? In Sweden Donald Duck is called "Kalle Anka". His uncle, the true american capitalist and my role model, this rich bastard, is called "Roope" (Robert) in Finland, actually for over fifteen years before another Robbie The Bastard. Are they related?

Unfortunately some of East Coast Americans are not fair _capitalists_ anymore. They are new-liberals. (RIP Ted).

As a Lutheran and drunk I am not into this non-alcoholic Muslim Ramadan thing but I am going to taste some HUMMUS with cooked organic cucumbers for the first time in my life. Soon.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I used to use a sextant for in car navigation. But now I don't have a sun roof and it gets so cold hanging out of the window lining it up. GPS Trackers are beginning to get demanded by insurers. Now they won't tell you where they are in your own car, so that even if you get hi-jacked you can't tell anyone. They have about fifty approved locations they were telling me.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Car Thieves

David; Your comment reminds me of the Seinfeld show where a guy steals Jerry's car, and his cell phone is in it. He phone's his cell and is talking to the guy. That was pretty funny.

The gps tracking in some of these movies, like "Peace Maker" with George Clooney. Watching what these satellites are capable of is too damn scarey. Enemy of the State is another case. I don't know if it's true, but what Gene Hackman says in that show. There is 18 acres of main frame computers underground, and probably much more, and sofisticated since that time. There is no such thing as privacy any more.

So how does some nut and his wife keep a girl kidnapped for 18 years????? I guess the FBI only does a job properly on what they want to.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Got my LoJack workin'

GPS is most useful in tracking your vehicle when someone else is behind the wheel. No one can hide from the eyes in the sky.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: GPS

Y'all are considering the use of a GPS for driving along in a car. How gawd damn lame can you be?????

Consider this...... it's the middle of November blowing heavy south east and raining like hell so it's BLACK. 23:00 hrs towing a barge heading up Schooner Channel, (that is barely wider than the barge) and you can't see fuck all!

Inside the wheel house, the channel is so narrow that it just closes the radar right up, on your lowest setting, BUT! now we have a computer monitor, with the chart, the computer is interfaced with the GPS, so you see your boat, (shown by a little boat on the chart, whatever colour you want to make it). It shows your speed, posiion and direction of travel. You can watch the little boat move along. It takes the stress of the job away in any situation out here. That's what a GPS is for you bunchacrazies.

The scary thing about watching this stuff. I've checked my gps for accuracy by putting my boat right to a reef, a navigation buoy, checked it against my depth sounder. These things are so deadly accurate. If one of these crazies with their finger on the button wants to drop a bomb right on your house, be assured that is exactly where it will land.


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Posted by:

Peter Stone Brown

Location: City of Brotherly Love
Web: My link

Subject: Dylan and GPS

The amazing thing about this Dylan and GPS thing is it was a joke and it's not new. It was from a broadcast last December on Theme Time Radio Hour. Since XM apparently does not broadcast in England, the BBC rebroadcasts the show much later. Some reporter picked it up and voila, news story all over the world. On the original broadcast it was hysterical. As for the concept itself, I like reading maps.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Long live the sextant!


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Posted by:

Fred

GPS?!?! Feh! What happened to the spirit of adventure?!? Y'all are getting soft in your old age! : )


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Half The Fun Is Getting There

I'd only use GPS if Dylan was giving the directions. I guess if you drive in areas with one way streets and lots of traffic it would be an advantage. Out here half the fun really is getting there.

We try to never go the same way twice when traveling around. Most of my driving is to visit friends or maybe to attend a farm auction, there is no time pressure. Going down new roads and seeing farms and landscapes I haven't seen before is part of the adventure. I actually use the sun to keep me heading in the general direction of where I want to go. If I don't know the local roads when I get close I like to drive into people's farms and ask directions.

Map Quest really sucks as was mentioned earlier. We tried it twice, once to find a street in Montreal and once to go to see Levon with the Barn Burners in Schenectady NY. Both times there were mistakes in the directions ( turning the wrong way onto a one way street and getting off at an exit that didn't exist are two I remember)and once you get lost with Map Quest there is no going back, you're fucked.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: And quiche

SatNav has its good and bad sides. Almost invariably I can do way better around my home town area than GPS.

But in a new town it’s invaluable, especially with one way streets. Also if you get lost, the getting back ability is great. It’s partly learning to trust it, especially if it’s linked to live traffic flow information. I was going to London and it suddenly said “Turn left” next junction!!! I didn’t, but muttered, “Bol*ocks” and stayed on the motorway as usual and two miles later ran into a traffic jam where I got stuck for an hour. It’s also good on large modern housing estates, where there seems little logic to road layout.

Google are driving slowly around my area with these vans with multiple cameras mounted on them, preparing the next generation of Sat Nav with 3D street features on maps. But that's like a flight 25 years ago over Alaska on Japan Airlines (when they flew via Anchorage). I was looking at Mount McKinley / Denali out of the window. The flight attendant came and closed my window blind and pointed at the screen where the plane camera was showing a picture of the mountain. So the passengers won't have to look out of the window in future to see stuff. it'll all be projected on the in car screen.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: GPS

Yes, real men use GPS. How can somebody possibly argue against it? I travel the entire U.S. and sometimes Canada for my job. Back in the days of printed Mapquest directions I had to constantly avert my eyes from the road to check them, and if I misinterpreted them I could be screwed on the way to a meeting. With GPS I don't have to print all those out prior to a trip, and better yet, if you make a wrong turn with GPS, it gets you back on track, unlike Mapquest and such, where, if you get lost, you might be screwed.


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Posted by:

Pat B

My experience with GPS was great. It saved tons of time, helped us avoid the perils of one way streets, and allowed me to think for myself about things besides directions--like pointing out interesting sites, engaging in interesting conversation, contemplating Lincoln's greatness etc.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Being anti GPS is the worst, no point in not wanting to get home.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Steve, I'm completely anti GPS. What the fuck, why can't people can't think for themsleves, read maps anymore? I hate to say it, but I do use mapquest sometimes, before leaving for a destination. I find that awful enough.


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Subject: Beatles remasters again

Charlie - just found this review which goes into a bit more depth. As someone who's never been impressed with the original cds I have to say it looks as if they've been done with a lot of care and attention. They won't sound anything like the "1" collection which is far too glassy to my ears nor will they be a 'brickwall' aural assault. I'm most interested in the restoration of bass and the low end in general - not something that could always be on the original vinyl for various reasons but something that *was* on the mastertapes and something George Martin and the Beatles intended and desired (but couldn't always get).


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Music Built to Last

JQ: I read a good review of the Loudoun Wainwright collection of Charlie Poole covers. Let me know how you like it.

Simon: I enjoyed the MOJO review (or preview) of the long overdue Beatles' remasters.

Last night I heard a great live version of Lennon and McCartney's "The Two of Us" by old pals Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina, soon to be released as the first studio effort by the duo in over thirty years. They are touring together again, but that track (for an upcoming children's album by Mr. Loggins) was an appropriate one for their return to the studio together. There's a YouTube video of it available, taped at the Loggins & Messina concert at Bethel Woods last week.

Anyway, the song was one of many highlights in a sort of time travel concert for me since it drew so heavily on the first two Loggins & Messina LPs, a couple of my favorite records in my college days. It was interesting to hear a part of "Georgia on My Mind" as a prelude to the Loggins & Messina song, "Back to Georgia," and the Wolf Trap night was filled with little surprises like that. The voices of Mr. Loggins and Mr. Messina melded as wonderfully as they always have, and their band was excellent--especially young keyboard wizard Gabe Dixon (who opened the evening with a strong half hour of his own fine material).


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Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Subject: Mojo review of Beatles remasters

If anyone is interested ... I thought it was quite witty and informative.

"On the other paw, the mono box is a saucy, pouting minx and I must have her - as she knows I must. But rest assured, I will feel used afterwards. Worth it for that thrusting versh of Paperback Writer, at last a match for my original 45, discovered in the belly of a second-hand Radiogram purchased by my parents in the late '70s."


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Posted by:

Steve

With all these GPS confessions, the question must be asked; Do real men use GPS?


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Assima (1991)

(my translation)

Oh Algiers capital, how much I cherish your value
Your love stands forever in my heart, until the judgment day
Unworthy people soiled you, I pray God to punish them
They soiled the town of Sidi Thaalbi, Abderrahmane, my friends
The city of the martyr El Abbi, and so many saints
Barbarossa, oh my friends, and Sidi Mhamed of the twin graves

CHORUS : Tell me listeners, whatever happened to Algiers ? where are the citizen of pure lineage gone ?

From everywhere arrived newcomers, the rural exodus gathered crowds
Modesty and respect of others disappeared, Faith and Religion have been weakened
Where are the Scarf and the Turkish Fez, with falling threads
The special taste of Ramadhan, the Aid and Holydays are gone away
All is imitation, bad trends and new habits
They exchanged El Hebaq for Rihan, they set Jasmin under siege
Where are the Kaftans with golden threads, the silk is under constant shortage
Where are the leather workers, and the jewels sculptors
Where are the stringed-instrument makers, and the decorators

Where are the fine dishes and the sweet evenings, where are the sheikhs
Announced with Ululations and muskets
Where are Qacidat and storytelling, where are the street poets
Where is Fadela Dziriya, El Anka and the Fakhardjiya brothers
Titich and his zorna players, they were all forgotten
Ksentini whose humour is forgotten, today anybody pretend to be an artisis
Where is Baba Salem, the black man with trumpet and tambourine
Honesty is gone you who understand, those marvelous ages are forever gone

You recognize nobody in El Harrach, the kids from Lussendi [Hussein-Dey] moved elsewhere [all to Quebec? I presume]
At Kouba thou shall not find even someone you know by view
Dont last in Anassers, else you will cry of disappointment
Al Hamma is in a state of advanced decay, so are Salombi [clos Salembier] and Laakiba
In the heart of lovely Bincour [Belcourt] the memory of my parents fled away
Bab El Oued and El Qasbah, good tastes flew away
Bab Djedid and Soustara, El Biar La Scala and Tagara [Los Tagarinos]
Bouzaréah and Zeghara, and Bufrizi [Beau-Fraisier] so beautiful
All is in a state of irreversible desolation, ask the residents of Sintogi [Saint-Eugène]

Oh this incredible news Rouiba, Reghaia et Dergana have been excluded
Look Algiers is angry, her walls faded and turned pale
As what happened to the crow in its approach when it wanted to imitate the pretty dark eyed dove
Pray good people for our Prophète the chosen of God, the best of brave
Sun of Abdallah and father of Al Batoul Fatma mother of the two Husseins
He shall forgive us on judgement day, we and our forefathers
I finish my lyrics with All Praise and Thanks be to Allah the greatest
My prayers are for the master of the men, the pure, Taha the faithful
Also spoke Abdelmadjid Meskoud, the kid from El Hamma, if I am not mistaken


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: your (Canuckistanian) TV guide

CBC ubiquiboy Jian Ghomeshi hosts the 70's - era successor to 60's musodoc _Shakin' All Over_. This one's called _This Beat Goes On_.

9 pm Eastern, 8 pm in the central floodplain . . . .


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: GPS & Charlie Poole & MLB

I've heard that soon enough GPS users will be able to insert their own voices; can you imagine how fierce the agro will be if it's your wife's voice?

Louden Wainwright has a new record now of Charlie Poole covers. That sounds promising, eh? Does anybody here have it yet? I've ordered it so more later on that.

For the baseball fans here and speaking of Wainwright: Is the best starting 1/2 punch the Giants Lincecum & Cain or the Cardinals Carpenter & Wainwright? I think I'd go with the latter at this point. Too bad for Lou and his gaggle of under-performers.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Sony sessions

Eric Bazilian, who worked with The Band at that point, also discussed the Sony sessions in an interview with Carol Caffin in 2007. (see link)


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Subject: GPS

Our first experience with GPS was in Munich -- a woman, English with a German accent. Steve made a lot of snide Nazi/SS references - in jest, of course.

JF


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Posted by:

Pat B

I was in DC two weeks ago with the family and had my first experience with GPS. I just kept saying "Yes, Master" much to my wife's consternation.

I demo'ed a keyboard at a music show many years ago, and Phil Ramone was there. I asked him about the Band at Woodstock and he said they sounded great but didn't connect with the audience at all. He mentioned Janis as a performer who did both there.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BEG / Jan F

Angelina, thank you for that link.

Jan, that is really funny. My GPS has "Jane" and Richard hates her.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The lanes they are a-changing

My SatNav in England has an American woman giving directions. I assume you can change the voice if you get deep enough in the instruction manual, but I always have the voice switched off anyway because it annoys me. They say a woman’s voice is better for instructions because it’s more treble so easier to hear through background noise. I’d add that most women resent males telling them how to drive, and most men are already used to getting directions from female passengers.

You didn’t indicate (i.e. signal)!

There’s nothing behind me. We’re the only car on an empty road!

That doesn’t matter ; etc.

I reckon Bob wouldn’t be too good because I find him quite hard to follow on the Theme Time radio shows … too much mumbling. That’s not good when you’re trying to change lanes on a circulatory system in Central London.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bob doing GPS, ha. The jokes are endless. You punch in the coordinates and the voice mumbles some incomprehensible words that may or may not be directions depending on how cooperative Bob is feeling at the time.

Or maybe you\re lost on some dark country road late at night, you punch in the coordinates to your house and Bob's voice says, " how does it feel, how does it feel, to be on your own, with no direction home?"


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Posted by:

Bill M

I suppose we shouldn't be surprised about Dylan being prepared to provide voice-overs given what a great job he did on the K-Tel commercial for "24 Protest Hits" on "Radio Dinner" back in the early '70s.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Bruce (Hornsby) and Bob (Dylan)

Peter: I know Bruce Hornsby was indeed in the studio for some of the sessions you mention in your article. He's mentioned how he thought it was interesting Garth was in his own little room, removed from the other musicians.

Jan: I saw the Dylan GPS voice piece in the POST myself and had to laugh (though I think they made a mistake claiming his show airs on the BBC...Peter?). I personally have the voice of an Australian woman telling me where to go on my GPS, but I'd leave her for Mr. Dylan's voice in a heartbeat.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Web: My link

Subject: BD

Dylan news.

JF


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: A bit more …

… on the Band "lost sessions" of the 80s / early 90s.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Here you go Ari.

I hope Northern Girl and Northern Boy and Bill M had fun tonight at Hugh's Room. :-D


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Subject: BROWN EYED GIRL

How did you find that Band track?!?!?! What is Tombstone?!?!?!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Cabbagetown
Web: My link

For all the Dankettes out there. I discoverd today that Northern Girl is also in your club. I had such a lovely time today with both of them blah, blah, blahing for hours about music, art, life. I'm sure we'll hook up again when they're in town. :-D


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Recall the beginning

Steve Miller was fond of namechecking his earlier songs. Space Cowboy, Gangster of Love and Enter Maurice are among the earlier songs name checked in The Joker.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: basil

Mabqatchi bennat Ramadhan, La aid la moussem kizmen , attaqlid ghemouh ya I was stunned by a line in the legendary Chaabi song of Abdelmadjid Meskoud “Assima” translate “the capital (town)”, [linked]

1:34 - “tebadel al hebaq be rihan, hasra ala el yasmin”

first and mainly for the sounds of the words of the line, while I suspected some deep flavor in the line. translate

“they exchanged the hebaq for the rihan, and they set an assault on jasmine,”

and I know what I mean by transliterating, because after some more or less shallow researches It turned out that in the classic Arabic tongue “hebaq” and “rihan” are two words both referring the same grass, you said the basil. Ie I would have just added one more of my usual GB stupidities by translating

“they exchanged the basil for the basil, and they set an assault on jasmine,”

What an intriguing phrase, I keep sufficient just enjoy its imaginative lack of meaning splendor. Now remain the possibility that in the Arabic dialect spoken in Algiers, and the song context, whether there is some fine distinctive and hidden nuances when using one word or another to refer to the basil plant, I will Investigate more in depth, else the mystery will remain unresolved

khouane, badou tabai akhrine, They exchanged Ksentini wa teslia, zid goulou fennanin “they didn’t know the humour of Ksentini, thus they believe sincerely they are humorists” Enjoy the linked song, or be free to read if you have time to waste, what an online encyclopedia has to say about basil

The basil is a herbaceous plant originating from India, the basil plant can measure up to 60 cm. In Asia it is considered as a sacred plant. With its sugar and slightly lemony taste, the basil is 100 % naturally light, far from too much salted or too fat seasonings.
Some chopped fresh leaves raise all the dishes, we tend has to think that the basil is reserved for the traditional mozzarella tomato, but we would be wrong to content itself and to go …
The basil it is with everything and for all.
The basil is indeed very rich in vitamin C, what makes of him a food privilege in case of fatigue. And it also contains vitamin A, which prevent the cells of our body from ageing, thanks to its antioxidizing virtues.
The basil is also a source of phosphor and calcium, the perfect cocktail to have solid and resistant bones. An infusion of basil is advised to relieve eyes during a temporary fatigue, due to a long night-road or to too much time past in front of a computer screen.
We can use the infusion in compress or bathe eyes. Attention, to realize this infusion, use only of the fresh basil. The essential oil of basil eliminate the teenage acne, diluted in a neutral oil, she can be applied to the parts to be daily treated.
Indeed, the basil has the property to destroy the bacteria of the skin. We also use it eliminate warts. Certain researches proved that the daily consumption of basil increased by 20 % the quantity of antibody of the human body.
It’s antiseptic, that is why, in summer, it turns out useful to fight against mosquitoes. It is enough to put a jar of basil in the room or near the window and insects . And to end the description of this plant in the multiple manners, it facilitates the digestion and is a laxative. Completed for the too rich meals, an infusion of basil allows to digest better. Last little gift, it would seem that it would improve the humor and would have exhilarating virtues


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I was too curious and couldn't wait so I went looking and found the song Miller lifted the line from and it's right there following, "Really love your peaches want to shake your tree", LOVEY DOVEY, LOVEY DOVEY, Lovey Dovey, all the time. The 4 Clovers 1954 song Lovey Dovey, was where the line came from. That Miller, what a joker!


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Chapel of Love

The great songwriter Ellie Greenwich passed away earlier today.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, funny how people , including myself, think the Miller song is Space Cowboy. Peter, The Joker! Or are you just being a joker? Now make up for the mistake and remind me of the name of the 1959 song by The Clovers(?) that first used the line, " really like your peaches want to shake your tree".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Space Cowboy …

Didn't Steve Miller do that one?


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Posted by:

Steve

OK, Bill, we're not talking farmers then. That same Ipod crowd won't bite on anything farmer. But your lyrics are more Space Cowboy than Space Farmer, anyway. Cowboys have that adventurous wanderlust, farmers are homebodies. We're well rooted, we like where we are just fine. The farm across the fence is the final frontier.

Draw the line from Dirt Farmer( the song) to Space farmer for me. I'm willing to be convinced, I know the monetary possibilities here are more promising than anything else involving farming or farmers.


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Posted by:

Linda Stevens

Subject: REALLY enoyed the "Wolves" documentary on PBS.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve Steve Steve. It's the 21st century, and we can't hope to sell a song about a jumpin' cow to the iPod generation. They want to hear about space, the final frontier, the one that billionaire acrobats now visit for fun.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Peter: I'm shocked at that cheap "short people" joke you made at Mr. Simon's expense, but I laughed anyway. Don't get me wrong, I've been a Paul Simon fan for four decades and I own almost everything he's recorded, I've seen him several times in concert with and without Artie, but know--that like Bob Dylan--he's "borrowed" a lot from others. It reminds me of the line a creative writing professor of mine used back in college: "by creative writing I mean creative STEALING."


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, obviously I misunderstood what you were up to, I thought it was a song for Levon to sing, one in keeping with the feel of the last two that's why I tried to keep mine less cosmic than what you've written though I guess your chorus should have given me an idea of the direction you were heading. I tried for a more rootsy feel complete with the reference to " Bessie The Heifer" sung by Little Jimmy Dickens, and the Bessie Band connections. I thought the cow jumping over the moon was a good tie in to launching the song into the space you were wanting to till


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Posted by:

Bill M

Good heavens BEG, don't you remember the phase that came after uncommunicative, when you did your best to look bored but intelligent - and cool. So, I'd say he's inwardly groovin', outwardly bored. And how 'bout that hair? (By the way, Prakash books the blues stage at the Ex, so if you're going, you might see him hanging around the stage, and possibly even on it - especially if his very talented son is playing. We forgot to go on Sunday to see Eugene Smith.)


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Sound of Electricity

Ironically, it was an arrangement of one of his compositions that Paul Simon had no knowledge of that jump-started his career. After their album "Wednesday Morning 3 A.M." basically flopped, Simon & Garfunkel went their separate ways, with Simon going to England. However, Columbia Records noticed that the song "Sounds of Silence" was getting airplay in several cities.

Following a recording session for Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone", producer Tom Wilson and engineer Roy Halee had several of the musicians (drummer Bobby Gregg, guitarist Al Gorgoni & bassist Bob Bushnell) plug in and overdubb a new arrangement over the original acoustic & vocal tracks on "SoS". Over in Europe, Simon received word that the song had suddenly become a hit, but soon learned that it was not exactly the same composition that he & Garfunkel had recorded.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Hey Bill M...I can't quite read Prakash here. Is he bored? Is he groovin'? Or is he just standing there looking cool? lol Danny still has his great hair today! Actually he looks even better if you can believe it! Michael is sooo good. Pentii.....He's a character. Louuu speaks for himself! The only time I don't dig his hair here!

Are you seeing Fred Eaglesmith tonight with Northern Boy and Northern Girl? I'm hooking up with them in Cabbagetown in a couple of hours......


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks. I love the seamlessness of the transition at 1:50.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Peter V and John D and Pat B.....Four beautiful Canadians with one Louuu. You'll at least dig the jam before Louuu sings Pat. ;-D I sent you this one before Bill M. Wow....They were so tight!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Charlie, I should think any comments on songwriting go right over Paul Simon's head. Hang on. Yes, they would do.

Scarborough Fair is the classic, which he learnt from Martin Carthy, who complained for years until Paul Simon's London concert a few years ago where they kissed and made up. Art Garfunkel added the "Canticle" section based on Paul Simon's The Side of A Hill tune. I was very aware of that one because we needed two songs for a busker to sing in the background in an educational video, and was told that it would have to be traditional as it would be so expensive otherwise. We got an old Oxford University Press songbook of traditional songs they'd copyrighted is in the 1930s, and there was Scarborough Fair, which dates back to at least the 1650s. It was irritatingly about one note different at the end of the line, but we did it that way (and had to keep retaking as the singer kept slipping into the Simon version). So Martin Carthy didn't do much to it in the first place. The other one we took from the book was The Leaving of Liverpool. Bob Dylan had bits of Scarborough Fair for Girl from the North Country too. All folk singers did the "Trad. arranged by." On the whole, Paul Simon's wonderful fifty year catalogue (going back to Tom & Jerry) suggests to me that he's the songwriter in most disputed cases. Or the "I drove him to the library" situations.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: bartender, get me rewrite ...

Steve: I've stuck with your chorus idea, though left it as the first verse too. A second verse came to me last night while doing a sudoku, and a third came this morning while I walked to the car:

I'm going to be the first space farmer / Grow some silage up on Mars / Plough some rings around Saturn / Stook my hay bales to the stars

I'm tired of living in the urban shadow / Watching crops left in the field to rot / By pretend farmers looking for a tax break / While waiting for a harvest of building lots

[Chorus] I'm going to be the first space farmer / Grow some silage up on Mars / Plough some rings around Saturn / Stook my hay bales to the stars

I'm gonna go somewhere where the air is cleaner / And the air is cleaner where there ain't no air / Where the only mod con is a meteor shower / To wash the space dust out of my hair

[Chorus] I'm going to be the first space farmer / Grow some silage up on Mars / Plough some rings around Saturn / Stook my hay bales to the stars


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Hollies link looks like Ready Steady Go too. After The Beatles special (where they played live), the show switched from miming to live on the show. The Hollies were unusual in using a six-string bass guitar. Their stuff stands up very well to the passing of time, except “Stay” which to me they took much too fast and too unmelodically. I once filled up my car next to Allan Clarke very early in the morning (or very late in the evening), and ventured to say how much I appreciated his music. It’s a situation where stars either say “Fu*k off” or are pleasant. He was one of the pleasant ones and chatted cheerfully for a few minutes. I didn’t mention “Stay” fortunately.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

I've heard other musicians besides the guys in Los Lobos imply that Mr. Simon "borrowed" ideas heavily from various African musicians and others he collaborated with. Of course, nobody is perfect (except Ernie Banks and his World Champion Chicago Cubs--oh wait, that hasn't happened in a century?).


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Composition Credit & The Myth of Fingerprints

According to Los Lobos, collaborating with Mr. Simon is nothing like a land of grace. But that's how the system works and so it goes... At least Mr. Knechtel received industry credit for his arrangement contribution.


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Posted by:

Ernie Banks

Greatest single of all time? Hyperbolic, Paddy.

Rest in peace Mary Jo Kopechne.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Senator Kennedy

May he rest in peace.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: I Can't Let Go

Thanks Pat, and here is a link to also my favourite Hollies tune.


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Posted by:

Peter V

It was 1966, not 1965. My companion insisted on walking round to the stage door after the show, but 2000 other girls had the same idea.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks for the link, Pat. In the spring of 1965, I remember seeing the Walker Brothers limo edge in until it was touching a brick wall, then reverse fifty yards, scraping the car all the way, to get to the stage door and admit The Walker Bros without the screaming girls getting at them. The whole side was wrecked. It was a something like a Vanden Plas Princess too (looks like a Rolls Royce.) Odd band, two singers and a drummer.

These Ready Steady Go shows are starting to come out of the woodwork. I picked up The Beatles special on DVD last month. They appear to be Japanese broadcasts. Tapes were sent to Japan and survived. The "7" is odd next to the title, because it wasn't a chart show like Top of The Pops.

The greatest single of all time? Apparently the most played on radio worldwide is You've Lost That Loving Feeling which is stylistically very similar. There are contenders. A Whiter Shade of Pale made one DJ's poll internationally.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Art Garfunkel has publicly claimed credit for helping to arrange the piano part on BOTW, as part of an apparent effort to show--correctly, I think--that his contributions to Simon & Garfunkel were more than just showing up to sing Paul Simon's songs. (Garfunkel is also generally credited with the melody line for the trumpet/pedal steel break in "The Boxer.")

Larry Knechtel seemed to be one of those guys who never became famous in his own right but yet seemed to be present at the creation of a whole lot of classic music--like James Jamerson, or Jim Keltner, or Jack Nitzsche. Always a shame to see guys like him go; what stories they must take with them...


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Either this or the Hollies "I Can't Let Go" as the greatest single of all time.

Saw Larry Knechtel play with Elvis Costello. Superb.

Ernie, could you take on a less beloved character for your posts. The great number 14 has a world of class.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Hey, Peter, you're not just saying that because you heard Larry Knechtel also played bass on some sessions for The Doors, are you?


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Posted by:

Ernie Banks

Everybody got that?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Marvellous as the piano part is on Bridge Over Troubled Water, it's not "composition". It's a classic case of arrangement. Paul Simon has often done it without the piano part (sadly).


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Larry Knechtel's Session Work

Not only did Larry Knechtle work with both Elvis Presley AND Elvis Costello, he played both piano and organ on one of the seminal works of American popular music, "Pet Sounds" by the Beach Boys. The rest of his resume is equally impressive, with recordings ranging from early rock'n'roll artists such as Fats Domino, Duane Eddy, Roy Orbison, the Everly Brothers and Jan and Dean to records by people including Johnny Rivers, the Mamas & Papas, the Monkees, Harry Nilsson, Randy Newman, Poco and many more. What an amazing career.

It's great Mr. Knechtel got the Grammy recognition for his arrangement of "Bridge Over Troubled Water," but it's too bad he didn't get co-author credit on one of the best-selling records of all time.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Bill, do what you can with it, feel free to winnow at will

Was in a one man band

we played and sang this land

took the wheat from the chaff

as we honed our craft

thought I'd seen it all

saw the curtain fall

then Bessie jumped over the moon.

I'm going to be the first space farmer

grow some silage up on Mars

plow some rings around Saturn

stook my hay bales to the stars.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: British football fan songs

Tottenham Hotspur fans (on Lonny Donegans My Old Man’s a Dustman):

Posh Spice is a slopper

She wears a wonder bra

But when she’s shagging Beckham

She only thinks of Ginola!

---------------------

When Gary Neville (Man. United, known for his good but very sober play) plays the National Team, they sing:

If Gary Neville plays for England, so can I

If Gary Neville plays for England, so can I

If Neville plays for England

If Neville plays for England

If Neville plays for England,

So can I

-----------------------------

Fullham fans about Bobby Zamora (known for his hard but missing shots at the goal, on Dean Martin’s That’s Amore)

When you sit in row Z

And the ball hits your head

That’s Zamora!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Ilkka / Peter V: I feel obligated to once again note that one-time Dylan / Hawks drummer Sandy Konikoff is on the Mad Dogs and Englishmen album, and in the movie too. Sandy'd met Leon Russell and others in that crowd while staying in LA with Levon after both'd left the Dylan tour.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: Mad Dogs....

Thanks Peter V. for comments on "Mad Dogs And Englishmen", one of the few rock albums I haven't thrown away - as a listener of classical music like Bach and Händel and a listener of Greece left wing political music from the 60s/70s like Theodorakis or a listener to Arabic and Jewish music and a listener to classical Chinese or Indian music... (pooooh) WHAT AM I DOING _HERE_ ANYWAY???

(BTW Great bass playing in Motown style in Mad Dogs in this concert album!!!)


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: 5 most overrated rock bands of all time

1) Beatles (simplicity)

2) Stones (simplicity)

3) U2 (theatrical emptiness with a `I just saved the world expression on their serious faces` look , f*ck off!)

4) Queen (bombastic kitsch for mothers in laws)

5) ELO (absolute trash with violins)

Honorable mentioning: Deep Purple (well we all were young)


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: how digital has changed music delivery - yet another view

dlew919: I thought this one was interesting also - and a subscription model might work for pop music somehow . . . .


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: Yes, you're quite correct -- former Hawk Fred Carter, Jr. played on "The Boxer". The "Bridge Over Troubled Water" album featured sessions recorded by Roy Halee in Nashville, L.A. and New York. While the title song was the first cut on the original LP, side 2 opened with "The Boxer". The basic track, recorded in Nashville, featured Fred Carter & Paul Simon "Travis-picking" on acoustic guitars, with Buddy Harman on shakers and Pete Drake on dobro. The rest of the song was overdubbed on New York. At the time, Mr. Halee was limited to eight-track machines at Columbia, but he innovatively used two of those Ampex recorders to get sixteen tracks and added additional "wild tracks" (like Mr. Drake's dobro licks) to achieve more.

In 2007 Fred Carter reprised "The Boxer", picking along with Paul Simon's son Harper, on daughter Deana's cover of the song, included on her album "The Chain". The CD also featured covers of "The Weight" and "Lay Lady Lay".


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Posted by:

Tracy

Web: My link

Subject: Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame induction DVD set

Mammoth box set from the RRHOF including the historic concert from the museum in Cleveland from '95.


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: It don't matter to me, but that song is certainly in the Bread mould. Another connection to our guys would be that ex-Hawk Fred Carter appears on the same S&G record, doesn't he?


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Posted by:

Peter V

On the original British CBS singles of Bridge Over Troubled Water, it says (keyboards: Larry Knechtel) right under the title. This was very rare for a session, but couldn't have been more deserved.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Larry Knechtel (cont.)

Just remembered another Band / Bread connection. Richard's live cover version of "She Knows", recorded at the Lone Star Cafe and later included on "High On The Hog", was written by James Griffin & Robb Royer of Bread. It was originally a 1973 Bread session outtake, which was later featured as a single from James Griffin's solo album "Breakin' Up Is Easy", released the following year as Bread went on hiatus. It was also included on the 1996 "Bread Retrospective" 2-disc compilation.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Great suggestion. A lot of the greats have done the exact same thing! But let's leave 'stooking' in there as a bit of folksy verisimilitude.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Larry Knechtel

The great Larry Knechtel, although known primarily as a keyboardist, was also adept on the bass guitar & harmonica. He played the distinctive electric bass part on the Byrds version of "Mr. Tambourine Man". He also had a few Band connections that come to mind.

Mr. Knechtel played bass on a couple of tracks from John Simon's 1969 film soundtrack "Last Summer", which also featured Levon, Rick & Garth. He played organ & harmonica on Roger Tillison's fine 1971 Atco self-titled album, which also featured Jesse Ed Davis, Stan Szeleste, Sandy Konikoff & Jim Keltner and included a great cover version of "Get Up Jake". In 1976 he worked with Neil Diamond & Robbie at Shangri-La studios on the "Beautiful Noise" album, playing piano on "Dry Your Eyes" and contributing on acoustic piano & Fender Rhodes on several other cuts.

No doubt, Mr. Knechtel is best known for his magnificent piano on Simon & Garfunkel's "Bridge Over Troubled Water". In an interview with Michael Fremer several years ago, engineer Roy Halee described how that part was recorded:

"The basic track was just a piano with Larry Knechtel in that huge CBS studio in Los Angeles, and the piano was in the middle of the room with mikes back in a classical configuration instead of right over the keys."


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Posted by:

Peter V

A further issue will arise apart from “doctor / govt / patient” as soon as the US gets a Healthcare scheme. Nationalized systems spend vast amounts on patented drugs. The pharmaceutical companies will claim that billions have to be expended on blind alleys for every breakthrough, thus justifying their high prices. Now you get companies trying to patent strands of DNA. I belive in the concept of a patent, but in life-saving medicines, lines need to be drawn around it. The USA has been a reluctant player with those countries who see huge amounts of their tax money funnelled into pharmaceutical companies. Attitudes may change.

The thing that irritates me is the way the major companies constantly lobby the medical profession against herbal and homeopathic remedies and vitamin therapy. There are so many safe herbal medicines and natural treatments that get ignored because there are no patents on them.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: How digital has changed music - another view

See link


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Posted by:

Steve

ED, your remedy for the US medical system is a big improvement over what is in place now and better than what Obama has on the table though exactly what that is is hard to put a finger on, yours is at least clear. But the simplest and best way to go is with a single payer gov't plan anything else is unnecessarily complicated and is just a way to allow companies to get their foot in the door to start driving up costs again. They're not needed. The only components that are necessary are, Doctor, gov't and patient.

Bill, I believe your first verse is actually better suited to be the chorus. Get back to me on that.


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Posted by:

ED

Location: NYC

Subject: Ideas For Jan

Thank You Jan, They however will never see the light of day. I did write them up properly and send them to our President, I never heard back and I understand that Washington and how business is done will never really change. I don't do Facebook, I stop in here rarely as my new career as a helper of the needy takes up way more time than I thought it ever would. When I first got involved I wanted to roll up my sleeves and dig in. Then it slowly leaked out about where I have been professionally and my Education and they wanted me in a more management area. I still try and get down and dirty though, Best feeling I ever had in my life. I do think of you all and wish you all the best and LOVE hearing about the music. This new life path has been the best thing I ever did, Like a lot of people I lost most of my retirement and money, but I never really cared much for money, money can't buy me Love......Hey, that could be a song.......I will try and check back in a week or so


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

David Crosby: "We were scared. Everyone we respected in the whole goddamn music business was standing in a circle behind us when we went on. Everybody was curious about us. We were the new kid on the block, it was our second public gig, nobody had ever seen us, everybody had heard the record, everybody wondered, "What in the hell are they about?" So when it was rumored that we were about to go on, everybody came, standing in an arc behind us. That was intimidating, to say the least. I'm looking back at Hendrix and Robbie Robertson and Levon Helm and Grace and Paul, everybody that I knew and everybody I didn't know.

I was also toasted because we had some of that pullover pot, that incredible Columbian gold that a friend of mine named Rocky had brought to the festival."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

1969 Woodstock Signed 11x14 Photo (22 Sigs. Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm, Neil Young, et al.) Last year's bid...518.00.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Larry Knechtel

Larry Knechtel, a member of Phil Spector's "wrecking crew" with other great like drummer Hal Blaine and piano giant Leon Russell, has passed away at age 69. Mr. Knechtel worked on studio recordings by the Beach Boys, Byrds, and played the classic piano part on the studio version of Simon & Garfunkel's "Bridge Over Troubled Water." He then became one of the founding members of the group called Bread, who made a lot of dough with their own string of hits. He remained active in recent years as keyboardist for the studio and touring band of the Dixie Chicks.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I found my 1963 Beatles tickets last year. Trouble is, I immediately put them "somewhere safe" and now don't know where that place was.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joe J: It depends. Here in the urban shadow you just leave them on the ground to rot, 'cause you're only pretending to be a farmer for the tax break while waiting for the subdivision permits to go through council.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: stooking

Is that what one does with hay bales Bill, stook them? Good lead verse though.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Pas Juste, Charlie

Your list is becoming a moving target, Charlie. Hard to keep it in my sights. Now I'm going to have to pull out Marge's copy of Bangladesh for a listen. It's been a couple of decades.

Bill, I'm going to contact Bill, Spaceman Lee's people this afternoon to see about licensing the name , Bill Spaceman M , for the album credits. Speaking of credits, you've launched this album into a the direct orbital path of J2Rs legal team. "Stook my hay bales to the stars" has a very familiar ring to it and considering Levon's involvement in the project will certainly rekindle the flames of the feud. Well done!

Then of course, stack, should replace stook for much the same reason Pete Seeger swapped, Shall, for, Will, in We Shall Over Come, it sings better.

I'm busy falling Fir trees this afternoon, man do I smell good, but I'll try and give the song some thought .


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Posted by:

Coffee Al

Location: East End Long Island

Subject: Jan F.

No Jan F-tickets long gone. Use to keep all my ticket stubs in a fish bowl-mostly Dead Shows. Somebody stole the fish bowl and along with the Woodstock tickets! Such is life.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Woodstock Tix...and Another Time Machine Concert

Ebay has a bunch of recently traded Woodstock festival ticket stubs (and untorn ones, too), mostly selling for between $40 and $150. The individual day tickets were orginally $6, a sum that today would be a bargain service charge or parking fee for many shows of a single artist.

I just thought of a show to replace TLW as my number one Time Machine Concert, George Harrison's Concert for Bangla Desh, a radical departure in a self-indulgent era, and certainly a better performance by Bob Dylan than his mediocre showing at TLW.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Bill M: Nope! Robbie's at the door. Don't you recognize his hat? Btw I love when Robbie swings his hips in those videos and lets go of his guitar and moves to the music! I don't need to hear a comment here Bill M! ;-D Btw Robbie signed one of those photos I took of his home when I first met him at Indigo Bookstore. He also said that the photo I took at Parliament and Carlton did look like the photo of the boyzzz hangin' in Cabbagetown.

Peter Tosh in "Steppin' Razor" is a must for reggae fans. When I saw him at Ontario Place.....I couldn't believe how tall he was and how he just strutted around in his robes and smoked ganja right there while the rest of us followed his lead. lol


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Is that a suitless Robbie carrying the plastic bag?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Here's Robbie's home where The Hawks were treated like family thanks to Robbie's Ma! Thanks again to Jan H who gave credit to Bill M (after I informed him) that it was our very own Bill M who knew where Robbie really lived....Riverdale, Toronto not Cabbagetown, Toronto! Kudos to Bill M! Another connection is that "Pretty Little Girl" who used to post here lived in this same hood when she moved here from Greece. And Bill M I was in that very same Library in Riverdale using their computers before I bought my own.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Broadview Ave.

... Not to mention, BEG, it's just down Broadview from the Carnegie library that we were talking about last year, the library that Levon surely drove Robbie to whenever they were staying at Robbie's mother's house.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Bill M! Bruce and John are buds. They've played together on other gigs as well. Robbie is the oldest on stage but is the best dressed, best guitarist, the tallest (that's why his suits always look great) and he has the best hair. ;-D

Here's another one I previously posted as well. Check it out as well Deee in case you missed it before.

Last month I was in NYC and checked out the Waldorf Astoria Hotel....and yeah.....the washrooms are the best in town!

Deee....Robbie and Mike Holmes connection! Mike Holmes attended Queen Alexandra Public School (181 Broadview Avenue) which is located just down the street from where Robbie lived on First Avenue in Riverdale, Toronto.


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Posted by:

Ernie Banks

A three day pass sold for $18.00. I still have mine.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Coffee Al, do you still have the tickets? Hopefully they weren't drenched or lost in all the fun! Steve has a co-worker who had a ticket and even though he knew it had turned into a free show, he sold it for $10.00 (I think the list price was something like $16?).

ED - I like your ideas . . . do you do FaceBook?

J.F.


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks for the links to Robbie backing Fogerty with Springsteen. Kinda odd to see Fogerty mostly rockin' with Bruce, despite Robbie doing most of the heavy lifting on guitar. Maybe John couldn't stand looking at a grown man wearing a haircut like that? Also, watching Fogerty standing sideways and waggling his head right at the start of "Proud Mary" mostly reminds me of Hal from "Malcolm in the Middle", especially the rollerblading scene.

Speaking of moments, listening to one of the "Tree With Roots" CDs, listen to Richard's descending piano figure at 2:39 of the first "Tears Of Rage": now where'd you hear that before? (You'll hear it again in slightly modified form at the 35-second mark several cuts along - different song though.)

Steve: Given your occupation at facility on the guitar, you're the man to ask to help me complete the title song I've started to write for Levon's next album, "Space Farmer": "I'm gonna be the first space farmer / grow some silage up on Mars / plough some rings around Saturn / stook my haybales to the stars". You go boy!


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I put that concert on the list because it's one of the handful of Bob's concerts I've seen on video. I'm sure the Lyceum show was great but I don't want to nominate something I've never seen, though I think I might have seen some songs from that performance on a collection of live Bob material. I'll have to check. Actually a show with that rascal, Steppin Razor, in the band from the early 70's would have made my list as well but I've only seen individual songs not whole concerts from that period.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Joe Cocker

A live cover version of "The Weight" was included on the 2005 2-disc deluxe reissue of Joe Cocker's "Mad Dogs and Englishmen".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, you’ve got to have Bob (the one whose tribute Sinead thought she was at) but Lyceum 1975, surely? But I’d take any show. Maybe the recording of the Old Grey Whistle Test segment which was the first time they got noticed.

I would like to add the Mad Dogs & Englishmen tour which must have been magnificent. I saw Leon Russell just a few months later with much the same band, including Clydie King on vocals. There were so few of us in the 2000 seat hall that Leon asked us to come down to the front and we just filled about five rows. In spite of an embarrassingly poor turn out, they all gave it full power.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Woodstock

Apart from the bootlegs, several songs from The Band's Woodstock set have appeared on "official" releases. "Long Black Veil", "Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever" and "The Weight" were included on the Woodstock 25th Anniversary box set. "The Weight" also appeared on the Woodstock Diary (1994) single disc compilation. "Ain't No More Cane" was included on The Band's "Across The Great Divide" box set. In addition, some have speculated that the version of "Don't Ya Tell Henry", included on the Watkins Glen live disc & also on ATGD, is actually from Woodstock.

Curiously, nothing from Woodstock was included on the CD/DVD "A Musical History" box set, which, in the words of Robbie Robertson, was "the definitive musical history" of the group.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Number 9's Gotta Go

Charlie, I've been thinking about your, missed concerts, list and it was tough to remove any to make room for a concert that has to be on my list.

Here's my alterations to the list. I'd bump #9 The Who at Leeds off, replace The Last Waltz at #1 with The Rock Of Ages Concert and slip Bob Marley and the Wailers at London's Rainbow Theatre in 1977 into the #2 spot pushing every one else back one position. Gotta have Bob, especially live.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Across the Universe & Joe Cocker

I recommend this movie with Beatles songs to everyone I meet … Joe Cocker has a cameo appearance on Come Together, which is worth downloading if you're a Cocker fan. In the movie he appears as a busker / tramp singing it.

After Woodstock and Mad Dogs & Englishmen (another great live album) he burned out for a few years. His interface with The Band, Luxury You Can Afford, has Rick Danko on bass and Billy Preston on organ for I Heard It Through the Grapevine. Add Barry Beckett, Roger Hawkins, Clydie King, Wayne Jackson and the result is … one of the worst attempts at I Heard It Through the Grapevine ever put on record.If I had to demonstrate why the "super session group" is inferior to a band that plays together, it's the one I'd choose. The Grease Band were way better than this.


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Posted by:

ronnie

Location: woodstock, ny

Subject: nothing in particular

i thought this guestbook was long gone. i don't know how long it's been back up ~ it's been a very long time since i checked in here. i always thought this was a great source for all things the band and a very interesting source of information and opinions. nice to see you back!


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

the book i linked may have been discussed here already, i've no idea.


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: DEE

Mike Holmes Mom was brought up in Cabbagetown/Regent Park in Toronto. I chummed around with her Brothers forever as a kid. Great Lady.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

I kind of found Al's post annoying, but I do appreciate the enthusiasm.

I might be wrong about the banter, maybe it's just stage talk.


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Two Links from BEG

Thank you...even the cat got on the desk to listen! Then sat on the mouse. And now for something completely different, will watch the Holmes on Homes show I recorded yesterday.


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Posted by:

Coffee Al

Location: East End Long Island

Subject: Woodstock

Just a note about Woodstock-Saw the Band and the crowd was yelling out "Where is Dylan" they didn't sound or do well at all. Canned Heat,Joplin,Who,Hendricks,WOW!!! The Dead sucked!! At least in later years they said so also.Ten Years After put on some show! The rain storm that day was one of the best storms-Thousands of us yelling "no rain,no rain" still love to hear that yell. Woodstock will always be a part of me. Last Saturday went to the so called 40th reunion concert at Bethal-Man times have changed!!!! You can't go back my friends!!! Standing there with my 2 daughters and looking around! Just so glad i was there and saw the whole showfor free! P.S. Had 2 tickets but the fence was down and they where yelling- " Free show,Free Show.


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Posted by:

ED

Location: NYC

Subject: WOddystock

You are 100% Correct Mr W.Coaster, although, Joe Cocker was not half bad and is still great to this day, guy has something


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: WOODSTOCK?? LAWD - LAWD - LAWD

YOU CRAZY BUNCHASUNSABITCHES.............it was Country Joe and the Fish all the way!


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Posted by:

ED

Location: NYC

Subject: Health Care

So good to see all of you again for my annual check up. Here is the solution to the US Health Care Crisis that so many of you around the world are concerned with, I will keep this brief and simple. First the problems 1. Out Law Lobbying of any kind in Washington (see solution) 2. Kick Insuracne Company's out of the Health Care Business, cost's will drop 1/3 to start 3. Cap Malpractice Insurance Claims, If a guy will make 2 million over his working life and can't work due to malpractice, give him 4 million, not 280 million. Then after a trail take the Doctors license to practice medicine away. Now the Solutions 1. Out Law Lobbying in Washington (the Gov is bought and sold due to this practice and will be sold to the highest bidder) The highest bidder is not the American People 2. Set up Community Health Care Networks, They are already set up to handle the paper work from the Insurance Companies, Every Hospital and Clinic dealing with Insurance Company's already has the bureaucracy set up to deal with this. 3.Premiums that companies pay employees go to these Community Health Care Groups, less 1/3 the cost. 4. People that cannot afford Insurance are covered by a 10% tax on the 1/3 saved 5. Medical Decisions are made by Doctors and Nurses as it should be. 6.Poorer Rural areas The Government kicks in some of the costs, also the more wealthy areas with their 1/3 + 10% savings along with a Health Tax Credit for these people, should cover the cost. 7.Drug Companies, Set up buyers for each network, Think Costco, Buy in Bulk, Competition drives down prices The Downside, which I am sure which most of you people will see first and foremost, Insurance people and Lawyers will lose their jobs. They can go to work for the Administration side of These Community Health care System, Or go find something else, Like when I retired a year or so ago I got involved in Food banks and Shelters, its going well and I feel I can do more, but thats me. Any Questions? If not I will see you next year


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dlew, that sentence took a little re-reading. But Janis was on such form that night that no one could have won a battle of the bands against her. Sly, Santana and (to a degree) Joe Cocker had it at Woodstock. Sometimes performers are unstoppable.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and another one! "Green River"

Fogerty, Springsteen and Robbie!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Here's another one for you Deeee!

John, Bruce and Robbie...Born on the Bayou.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: I kind of hate to admit it....

But I think Janis blew the Band (and everyone else) off the stage in Festival Express.


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Posted by:

Steve

Herb, though I'm sure it's pronounced, Erb, very garden variety post. I'm guessing U's ain't sage, more likely one of the other 11 that the Old Colonel used to apply liberally to his bird.

I scan several news sources but usually only quote one, The CBC, since it is by far the most balanced, provides context and employs journalists who usually live in and understand the areas of the world they report on. On a weekly basis I also check out the BBC world service, ABC radio ( The Australian one) and even that funky bunch over at Radio Romania where their play list seems to consist solely of Romania's losing Eurovision song entries in heavy rotation. Thanks for asking and glad to inform. Stay tuned.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Loved the review of Day One of Woodstock especially, and agree that Festival Express features a better Janis set too. The Sunday Times picked out the Sly & The Family Stone "Woodstock Experience" as its CD reissue of the week. Rightfully so.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Woodstock review

40 years on... INteresting review


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Woodstock live

I didn't rememberr the banter, but there are (at least) three Woodstock sources. One I had years ago was a cassette from an audience tape, with lots of local chatter. Then two far better versions came out, allegedly from the unused film soundtrack recording. Then there's a supposed soundboard out there somewhere. We were comparing them in detail a few years back.

On which the old three hour Woodstock Diary DVD set which features The Band and other non-movie stuff was in HMV this week. It looked longer than earlier Woodstock Diary DVDs (the first Woodstock Diary VHS was just 60 minutes), and didn't have a track list.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Location: Australia

Subject: SHouldn't go there, but did - Universal Health Care (Music at end, promise...)

Medicare - one of the great Australian social programs. You pay a little extra in your tax (1 or 2 percent, based on income), and the idea was you get universal health cover. It worked brilliantly, mostly, except...

1) Doctors: not all doctors are bottom feeding scum suckers, of course - about half are extremely hard working, caring individuals - the rest give the profession a bad name (unlike lawyers, where 99% give the rest a bad name). Quite a few realised there was a rort to be had here, and set up 'medical centres', which are a Mcdonaldisation of health care - they're not interested in you, unless you need tests. In and out 13.5 minutes. (My doctor, I don't hesistate to say, runs an old style family practice - I've got to know him over the last 15 years - he must be getting near retirement - what I'll do then? I don't know...) Dentists refused to have anything to do with it - thereby wiping out dental health care to nearly everyone. (I once threw a doctor out of my house when he tried to justify a doctors' strike based on sending doctors to where they were needed, not to where they wanted to go. He was happy to take govt money. When I told him that in most jobs, the person paying the money had a perfect right to place the person receiving the money wherever, he tried to argue that a higher number of doctors were needed on the lower North Shore (approximate to Manhattan, or Kensington in London). I brought to his attention the shameful conditions of Aborigines in rural areas. He essentially argued that Aboriginal health was a 'different' speciality? How I said -0 they are people! After stammering and stuttering that he wasn't a racist, he felt the outside air.

2) Idiots who think anything government supplied is 'socialism' and inherently bad. Point to the US model as the best practice. At the moment, whether you are the Prime Minister, or me, or anyone in between, you can get health cover if you are in an accident, or have an emergency. There are grey areas, I admit happily. SHould non-essential cosmetic surgery be paid for by society (no, I don't think so). Arguments like this meant that waiting lists are created - it took me 8 months to get a gall bladder removed, because it was 'non-essential'. Oh, except for the awful, chronic pain...

3) Insurance companies. Oh yes, insurance companies. Why should eveyone pay what they can afford, in a fair and equitable way, when an insurance company can gouge you for about twice what you can earn, and then knock back what you've claimed. Were I to have had my operationin the private system, I would have had to have paid 250.00 per day, this is AFTER paying about 5500 dollars per year for health in surance...

Finally, politicians. We're all still 'economic conservatives', apparently. We must run at surplus (though our govt this year admits there'll be a deficit). We must not spend money! We can have an iniquitous tax system, which means that 10% of our spending is charged (without realising that 10% of a low wage earners income is a bigger 'bite' than 10% of a high wage earners), but it is somehow 'wrong' to spend this money.

Bill and Hill came in 1998 or so to look at he system - they were quite impressed (and the Liberal government at the time were doing their damndest to dismantle the system - it was a bit embarrassing ... anyway). Things are slightly better at the moment, but the big bucks fo health insurance (and to be fair, they employ a lot of people) are holding things back. \ Meanwhile, anyone know of Chris Thile? Brilliant mandolinist - Nickle Creek, and now Punch - check him out on Youtube. (Jan - if this is too long, delete everything, except the Thile bit...)


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Woodstock

Ari - I'm not sure what you mean re: Richard's banter. I've got the Woodstock show, and many others, and I've never heard any of the members say anything more than a "Thank you" after a number or at the end of the show.


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Posted by:

Herb

Location: the Indoor Garden

Subject: The world in Black & White

Oh how wonderful it would be, to see everything in black & white, as does our simple-minded Northern Farmboy. On the basis of one source, our expert has an unshakeable option. Is there anything on which he is not an authority?


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Posted by:

Ari S.

I got hold of The Band's entire Woodstock set the other day and while I was listening to it in the car the other day I realized that Richard was the one that did most of banter related material at the concert. I also found it funny how one guy (among a crowd of jackanapes constantly calling out for "THE WEIGHT') requested In A Station. I've never heard anybody yell that out from the corner of a bar.

The best "F*CK YOU" moment of their set is when an audience member calls out "WHERES DYLAN" and the Band launches into Tears of Rage with Richard on the top of his game.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Golden Bird

The story of Happy Traum's 'Golden Bird'.


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Posted by:

Dave

Location: Toronto

Subject: Very nice website

I came across your site while looking for more information on some of the acts that played at Woodstock but who were not featured in the original version of the film.

I would just like to compliment you on the excellent job you have done on this site. I thoroughly enjoyed looking at the pictures and the discography, and have bookmarked the site so that I can come back again and read more about The Band.


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again)

Subject: The Band related artist Plura Jonson has written a book!

The leading figure in ELDKVARN (related artists) has written a cook book. It will be sold in the book stores in September but I will post "CHICKEN FROM SAN LUCAR DE BARRAMEDA" to all of you good people in this gb _WITHOUT_ the permission from the author, though. Only in Swedish, sorry.

1 färsk kyckling/2 msk olivolja/2 tsk salt/3 krm peppar/ 1 gul lök/4-6 vitlöksklyftor/ torr sherry/ 1 morot/ i knippepersilja/ bröd /klyftpotatis/ Bryn kyckling i olivolja. Salta och peppra. Tillsätt lök och vitlök. Slå på sherry. Låt småputtra i 15 minuter. Lägg i morötter och persilja. Låt småputtra

Plura recommend following wines: La Guita Manzanilla and Zeta Gracanico Chardonnay (organic) - I second to that.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Thanks for the response, Steve and Ari, but I didn't get any wiser :-(

As a private investor I am concerned _only_ about the future of the internet: the leagul issues, the technical issues, the political issues, the economical issues. The battleground will be far beyond this nostalgic website. - I see that you are concerned about _the music_. That's good for you but I give a damn to the music.

No hard feelings from the North :-)


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Charlie's top 10

I made it to the Allman Fillmore concerts. I also saw the Who at Fillmore the first time they did Tommy in public (or so they said.) I still have the program. Chuck Berry, Albert King and The Who all in one night


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: Hey Jan

Jan - I certainly know where you're coming from with your high school friends. I'll never forget a little get-together a few old high school friends and I had around the time of the 1st Gulf War. All I can say is I'm sure glad when you're teenagers you don't talk politics a whole lot. (I probably wouldn't have had very many friends if I had). I remember driving home afterwards, shaking my head saying "who WERE those people anyway?" Disenchanted to say the least. I guess I keep forgetting that I grew up in a pretty redneck part of town, and my ideals were pretty far left of those of anyone else within a 10 mile radius. You just kind of keep your mouth shut - and write about it instead.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Beatles in Vancouver

An interesting story on our local news this morning. A lady, (Mrs Stewart, I forgot her first name) who has worked in the Vancouver police department forever. Anyway, she has just come forth with tapes of the Beatles concert 45 years ago.

She had been told many years ago to burn them, however she hid them, and over the years has had to move them here and there, even disguising them in a box with "Christmas decorations" on it so no one would bother with them.

She finally gave them to our old rock & roll hall of famer, Red Robinson. She had meticulously dusted them and looked after them. They are great to watch, and the sound is good. As well as watching the screaming crowds. They say it was the Vancouver police first engagement with handling such a large unruly crown of more than 22 thousand people.


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Posted by:

Steve

JTull, he has also called the Afghan vote a success. 665 "female polling stations" didn't open at all on the day of the vote. My guess is as the days go by the vote will be revealed to have been as democratic as votes in Iraq were under Saddam.

A CBC reporter in Kabul drove by 5 polling stations and saw a total of 6 voters. Kabul is where you'd expect the turn out to be highest in the country. I'm guessing no matter how few people voted the reported number will not be less than 40%. Obama and other leaders can be expected to give politically influenced answers to both Lockerbie situation and the Afghan vote.

By the by, your view is universal and mainstream in the US for sure but not in the UK which is almost as interesting as the case itself.


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Posted by:

Steve

Charlie, if I was making your list I would have had to eliminate The Band from the list for the same reason as The Beatles .

There's only one guy who should have been in jail for the Lockerbie bombing and that's Khadafi, but he's a good guy now because he turned over somebody to go top prison for his crime. It's a perverse attempt at justice.


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Posted by:

Peter V

If you get the time machine warmed up Charlie, can I have the passenger seat? I prefer sitting to squatting in the mud too. I didn’t attend any of them, but wasn’t far off one as I saw the Everly Brothers Reunion on the same tour as the recorded London concert. The ones I’d add are Manchester Free Trade Hall, May 1966 Bob Dylan & The Band Play Fuck*ng Loud, and Bob Marley & The Wailers, Live at the Lyceum, the night that got recorded. As reports said most of the audience got their pockets picked, we should take only virtual money. Then Paul Simon … the African Concert? Or Simon & Garfunkel in Central Park?

Ari, the lack of response about Rock & Roll Band is that a lot of us are pondering (a) what it is and (b) which version of The Beatles we should get because we can’t remember what games machine our kids have. Is this stuff available for Wii? I know that because they’ve got Wii Fit which I thought was so good I nearly bought one.

Tomorrow, Cilla Black is DJ for the day playing the 30 best-selling Beatles songs on radio, and in the new remastered versions. What FM radio quality will make of that is anybody’s guess.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: the Island

Subject: Caledonia

Holidays are over. I spent 48 hrs of them in Caledonia drinking coffee and spinning tall tales. Caledonia of course, is a suburb of Rockford, Illinois, which is really a suburb itself, of Chicago. Caledonia is surrounded by tall fields of corn. Never met no Caledonians.

First time in USA since 9/11. A most pleasant experience. The airlines did lose the elephant's trunk.

Nice segue into a John Prine concert I'll see next week. I last saw John at the harbourfront park in Toronto the year of the first baseball lockout.

Catching up on the GB, noted the passing of Jim Dickinson and Momma Robertson. The stories they could have told.



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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Top Ten Places I Would Have Chosen Over the Woodstock Festival

With all the 40th anniversary marketing and observance (you'd have thought they LANDED ON THE MOON), I'm not sold on wishing I'd been a part of the Woodstock (Bethel) Festival at all. The female president of the company I work for was there, and a guy I know who parted ways with the company a while back was at Woodstock (Bethel) but he left early due to the weather and the mess. As Dave Marsh put it, "Rock'n'Roll and camping do not go together." With that in mind, here are my top ten historic Rock'n'Roll events I'd chose over Woodstock if I had a magic time machine[note the Beatles are missing only because I couldn't limit them to a single event]:

10.Chuck Berry's 60th Birthday party in the St. Louis theater where he had to sit in the balcony as a kid.

9.The Who Live at Leeds

8.Buddy Holly at the Apollo Theater

7.The Grateful Dead at the Pyramids in Egypt

6.The Lovin' Spoonful's first Ed Sullivan appearance.

5.The Everly Brothers Reunion in London

4.Allman Brothers Fillmore Concerts

3.The Monterey Pop Festival, 1967

2. Newport Folk Festival, 1965

1. The Last Waltz


Entered at Sat Aug 22 02:45:01 CEST 2009 from c-98-244-75-235.hsd1.va.comcast.net (98.244.75.235)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Barack Obama called the situation 'an outrage'. My position is pretty universal and mainstream.


Entered at Sat Aug 22 00:34:27 CEST 2009 from pool-74-101-160-191.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.101.160.191)

Posted by:

Ari S.

Subject: This is annoying

What's a guy gotta do to credit around here. I brought up that Rock Band thing about a week and a half ago and I'm never on that whats new board.

I've also come to the conclusion that besides Up On Cripple Creek and The Weight, the song that always proves to be the most popular among my friends and family is strangely "Home Cookin". For every casual listener they always seem to mention that Home Cookin is irresistible. I kind of agree in some ways.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 23:44:38 CEST 2009 from adsl-99-145-228-207.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net (99.145.228.207)

Posted by:

Pat B

From what little I read today, it seems in 2007 that a British judicial panel recommended a review of the case because there was a good chance the guy wasn't involved. A review was begun, and perhaps this is a way to avoid a less than satisfactory conclusion.

I also read that he is lionized in Libya because they believe him innocent.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 23:32:35 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

If the case was murky, and it was, then an appeal and review was on the table. They owed it to the families to let that go through. Instead they let him out. 259 on the plane. 11 on the ground. What compassion did they get? Compassion was giving him painkillers and treatment which was done. Release was disgraceful. The scenes in Tripoli were worse, proving who was behind it all along. He was the fall guy, but deeply implicated and deserving of a life sentence. Which should mean "for life."


Entered at Fri Aug 21 23:04:33 CEST 2009 from 21cust94.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.94)

Posted by:

Steve

Tull, that wasn't my question. It was more to the aspect of actual guilt since the whole process was fucked up from the beginning. Khadafi got to chose who would be sent to trial for the crime. There seems to have been little evidence to convict the guy but your right he was convicted. It was basically justice Khadafi style. He chose who would go on trial and the British system had the choice of saying guilty or not guilty to who ever he offered up. All hell would have broken loose if the UK had freed both guys he sent saying they didn't have enough evidence, which is what many who observed the trial concluded, including the families of people who were killed.

Being compassionate in this case doesn't seem so outrageous. If he said, I did it, screw you, I'd leave him there to rot but he's maintained his innocence in a case that is murky at best.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 22:25:54 CEST 2009 from mail.lumberg.info (217.5.150.251)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Steve, If his conviction is overturned, then he should be released. It has not been overturned.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 21:31:14 CEST 2009 from 21cust56.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.56)

Posted by:

Steve

IKKA, my nephew, the one who played bass for me at our family reunion, worked on the Rock Band 2 game for the company he works for in Boston. He actually called me a couple of months back to tell me of the inclusion of Chest Fever in the new game he knows of my Band interest. He also worked on the Beatles version of the game that will be released on Sept 9th. Number 9. Number 9. As a guy with a deep interest in music, he says he has the best job in the world.

Tull, do you care if he was guilty or not? Or is it important that somebody, guilty or not, pays.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 18:43:20 CEST 2009 from host-90-233-188-48.mobileonline.telia.com (90.233.188.48)

Posted by:

Ikka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: I DON'T UNDERSTAND A THING!!

FROM WHAT'S NEW:

The Band's song "Chest Fever" is available for download on Rock Band 2, "the sequel to 2007's multi-million unit selling, genre-defining, cultural phenomenon Rock Band, the highest-rated music/rhythm game ever". The version used in RB2 is the live version from Rock of Ages. Thanks to 14-year old Nathan Thomas ("a Band fan since before I could remember") for the update.

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Entered at Fri Aug 21 18:10:39 CEST 2009 from pool-74-108-34-234.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.34.234)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Misc

The link is to a website called Folk Alley. It is a radio station out of Kent State. they have acts up from Newport Festival and more. Worth a look.

Peter I agree about the Lockerbie bomber. He did not show much compassion to those passengers and their families. But what made it even more unpalatable was the cheering welcome he received at home. Disgusting. Sometimes "compassion" goes too far.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 17:34:27 CEST 2009 from (216.226.180.3)

Posted by:

Deb

Steve, you can find me among Jan's friends. I'll be happy to add you to mine, too.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 16:36:53 CEST 2009 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro D.C.

SteveH - I'm on Facebook as "RJ Fowler," you are welcome to join me (request to be a friend and I'll gladly approve) as I'm now getting pretty much pummeled by my "friends," with the exception of Deb!

If anyone is interested, I'm on MySpace as "Fanoftheband" although I don't keep that page up to date as well as I would like. It's mostly music oriented -- stuff about THE BAND, when there is anything, and the group my son in Atlanta plays in, etc.

J.F.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 16:36:44 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: a modest proposal ...

Why not send the guy to a US hospital and make him pay for his own treatment?


Entered at Fri Aug 21 15:49:52 CEST 2009 from mail1.lumberg.com (217.5.150.251)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Lockerbie bomber

I don't care if his continued incarceration eases anybodies pain or not. The man is a terrorist and deserves nothing more than to have his pain increased. It's called punishment. Deserved punishment.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 15:36:28 CEST 2009 from (162.99.237.94)

Posted by:

SteveH

Location: Maryland

Subject: Health Care

Jan F, I'd like to join the discussion on your Facebook page!

I work on health policy in the USA and have for over 10 years. I didn't set out to, I was a librarian, but I got interested in the fact that every other industrialized country in the world spent less on health care per capita, yet covered every one of their citizens. I started studying and ended up moving into health policy (instead of being the librarian at the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, which was one ambition).

Now, 20 year after I started looking into this, the US spends twice as much as the average OECD country, we have up to 16-17% of the population uninsured, we waste huge amounts of money on worthless or harmful medical care, and the only serious attempt to fix this is under attack by a campaign so mendacious it would make Goebbels blush.

I was talking to one of my colleagues yesterday and she told me her brother is about to become a French citizen. If he gets sick while visiting here, he waits until he gets home to get treated. It doesnt' cost him and he gets better care there. The Americans who think we have the best health care system in the world have no basis for comparison and simply believe propaganda. Sometimes I despair for this country.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 15:26:41 CEST 2009 from c-75-73-0-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net (75.73.0.226)

Posted by:

mike crow

Location: mpls mn
Web: My link

Subject: 1971 open air celebration

I have a few concert poster for a concert in 1971 called the open air celebration in ST Paul MN with THE BAND ,JOHN SEBASTIAN, DELANEY and BONNIE,CROW and MUDDY WATERS does anybody know anything about them or what they might be worth


Entered at Fri Aug 21 14:41:10 CEST 2009 from 21cust197.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.197)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Here's How It Works

Tull, here's a brief description how it works here in Quebec.

Doctors are private business operators. The gov't caps what they'll pay doctors per year( GP's in Quebec top out at about $250,000, specialists make more but I'm not sure of their limit). The doctor provides the service and submits the bill o the gov't. The government sets the fees doctors will receive and decides what procedure will be covered.

The gov't bureaucrats are not involved in the day to day operation of health care like insurance companies are in the US.

The range of procedures that are covered is incredibly wide. Breast enhancement is covered to give you an example of the extent of the coverage. All these procedures are covered for less per capita than the US gov't is paying now for it's coverage of US citizens.

It's interesting that in the lead up to the Canadian Gov't going to a single payer system in the late 60's the group that was the most vocal in opposing it was the American Medical Association. They attended the convention that was held in Winnipeg in the mid 60's with dire warnings for Canadian doctors and citizens of going down this path to socialism and worse.

Canadian doctors were against it as well but now the majority are solidly behind medicare.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 13:37:48 CEST 2009 from p4fcad6d8.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.214.216)

Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Subject: Michael H.

I'll second that.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 13:22:34 CEST 2009 from p4fcae0f3.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.224.243)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Health care: TAX CUTS = SERVICE CUTS

Garrison Keillor. Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles, Calif.: Oct 13, 2003

"Californians are like anybody else in that they want a great four-course dinner for $8.95. They want to live in the Greatest State (Fine Roads, Excellent Hospitals, Best Parks, Great Schools in which All Children are Above Average), and they also want low taxes. God bless them. People in hell want ice water."

TAX CUTS = SERVICE CUTS (like E=MC2 ,hi lovely Brown Eyed Girl)


Entered at Fri Aug 21 12:53:37 CEST 2009 from 21cust173.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.173)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Honesty In Advertising

Just in case there is someone out there who hasn't heard the story behind the woman, Shawna Holmes, who's the poster girl for the private health care industry in the US, the one who tells her story of how the Canadian health care system forced her to go to the US or die.

When she was interviewed on CBC radio's, As It Happens, a couple of weeks back she revealed a more accurate story of what happened.

She admitted she never had a brain tumour and that her life was never in danger. She had a benign cyst that was not life threatening and that was what she was told both here and at The Mayo Clinic where she had it removed.

She says she had to mortgage her home and borrow money from friends and family to get the $100,000.00 to have the surgery done and is now broke.

She insists the US insurance companies she working for are not paying her though she was interviewed at a Washington Hotel where she is living while " donating " her time to this worth while cause.

She wouldn't say where she was getting the money from to pay the lawyers she's hired for the constitutional challenge she has mounted against the Ontario gov't over health care in the province. Me smells a rat!


Entered at Fri Aug 21 12:38:43 CEST 2009 from ip-62-143-58-109.unitymediagroup.de (62.143.58.109)

Posted by:

Michael H.

Location: Germany

Thanks for the wonderful Music!


Entered at Fri Aug 21 11:32:32 CEST 2009 from 5aca0246.bb.sky.com (90.202.2.70)

Posted by:

Specto

Location: Scotland

Subject: Lockerbie

I agree with the release of the so called Lockerbie bomber..firstly cause I think his conviction was dodgy to say the least.and secondly,as per 22 previous granted requests from convicted prisoners,he was released on compassionate grounds..the man is dying!!The bombing of flight 103 and the deaths and destruction caused was horrific and has left many people permanently scarred but keeping one man locked up is not going to ease anybodys pain.


Entered at Fri Aug 21 03:27:40 CEST 2009 from proxy-ny.cbs.com (170.20.11.116)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

David: I'm not sure I need ANOTHER version of "Cahoots." My original vinyl is still in near mint condition, I think I still have the original CD release (even though it sounds crappy) and have the much improved-sounding re-mastered CD from a few years back. But let me know how that new version sounds anyway.

Peter: I love those lines from Gil Scott-Heron. He did a lot of great music and lyrics, some of it influenced by jazz great Les McCann (famous for "Compared to What?").

As for UK health care, I heard a great news story about an editorial from INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY which with amazing stupidity claimed the following: "People such as Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is worthless." As any culturally literate 12-year-old knows, Mr. Hawking LIVES IN ENGLAND and his "physical handicaps" are from Lou Gehrig's disease (ALS) which his daughter Lucy told me most likely should have killed him years ago. Lucy also told me she thinks the current state of American health care is a disgrace.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 23:25:55 CEST 2009 from bas3-toronto02-1279463951.dsl.bell.ca (76.67.18.15)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Music and Health Care

HOW TO GET HEALTH CARE INSURANCE IF YOU ARE A MUSICIAN... See Link

The previous link I provided has a great interview with Toronto's Dr. Rachlis comparing the health care systems of USA and Canada. Contrary to some propaganda out there; as a Canadian I can choose my own doctors. It is true that if I want elective surgery I would have to wait longer....If I booked in the spring I would probably have the surgery in the summer.

Also, although I have universal health care as well as my own medical plan via of my work which imagezulu is covered as well.....Once in awhile I'll elect to see a Naturopath which I have to pay out of my own pocket because my plan doesn't cover any alternative or complementary health like acupuncture, chiropractor, naturopath but it does cover a bit of massage (I go to student clinics instead when needed.). I can claim all these bills on my income tax.

So....again.....although we have universal health care whether we work outside of our homes or not (politics of housework is unpaid labour).....everyone is covered. For certain medical issues I'd rather see a Naturopath because here the whole person is treated and there will be less toxicity in my system if I can be helped here...but there is a cost. I choose to spend my money here when needed rather than spend money on cigarettes and rarely on alcohol. I buy a lot of my clothing from consignment stores and we eat in a lot, etc.....It's a choice....My union is always trying to negotiate coverage here but so far we haven't gained much in this area. One of the real reasons is that the drug companies would be greatly affected here.

Some people do have coverage for this but I don't. Mr. Maximus works for the Ministry of the Environment so he gets a lot of alternative medicine covered.

Yes there is a financial cost as we're taxed heavily. We're used to it I guess as we would revolt if our universal health care was ever taken away. In anycase, I want everyone to have basic health care in Canada and in the world. Your quality of life depends on good health and the quality of a country is based on how well basic needs of its community can be met for all.....

Hi Norbert! E=MC2 really means...

Energy equals Motivation, Commitment and Clarity!


Entered at Thu Aug 20 23:07:45 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Deeply ashamed …

As a citizen of the UK, I am deeply, deeply ashamed of the decision of the Scottish government to release the Lockerbie bomber. We in the rest of Britain have no say over Scottish jurisdiction. I am disgusted.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 22:42:08 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Band music

Let me interrupt the dissonance of the town hall meeting just long enough to mention that the Mobile Fidelity SACD reissue of "Cahoots" (UDSACD-2045) has been released. I have received a copy & will try to report back later with more details.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 21:54:09 CEST 2009 from 21cust223.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.223)

Posted by:

Steve

Tull, China will by pass the US in response to C02 production in the next couple of years. The Chinese haven't been around for 5000 years by not doing what is necessary when faced with serious problems. They understand that they will be effected, drastically, by what's coming. Don't be surprised if over the next 3 or 4 years the Chinese move ahead of us in lots of technological areas concerning greenhouse gases. They're already starting. India , likewise. No gov't wants hundreds of millions of starving people to deal with. Many agricultural areas of India and China, like California, are running out of water. Northern China is heavily dependent on glacier melt for water and the glaciers are going quick. If you think about it a little this should give you a clue as to why the Pentagon is the branch of your gov't that has been taking the lead on preparation for global warming.

Nobody starves or lets their children starve while there is still some food and water in the neighborhood.

As far as being documented, global warming is well documented, the problem being that scientists can't get ahead of the pace that it is occurring at. Their models are outdated by the time they've done the calculations because positive feedback loops that keep accelerating the process are hard to foresee. Each time the IPCC ( Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change)releases a report, which they do about every 5 years it's out of date and it's predictions are already too conservative.

California will lose app. 45,000 acres of productive, irrigated farm land in the near future. It's pretty much dead now. California produces 80% of the world's almonds and right now their trees are drying up and dying. One farmer I heard said he is trying to keep his trees alive a couple of years longer by watering with his well water which is so high in sodium that the base of all his trees are now surrounded by a white salt crust. It's well documented, just not well publicized.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 20:47:31 CEST 2009 from mail1.lumberg.de (217.5.150.251)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Steve, regarding global warming I take the position that it is both a real issue and a political issue and unfortunately it is very difficult to get a reasonable dialogue going by our leaders worldwide to address it properly. It's all well and good for, let's say, Denmark to treat it as a real and present danger, but what about China and India? I think a reasonable person says 'it is a real concern that cannot be completely scientifically documented, but given the stakes the prudent thing to do is treat it as real and act accordingly'. All well and good, but China and India take the position that they have the right to grow their economies without restriction until they are on par with the U.S. and others. Well, sorry. Their has to be some tough negotiations there, and I think tariffs on pollution producers would be acceptable if not desirable. If done correctly, an economy like the U.S. stands to benefit from Green technologies if we take the lead. Of course, I say that working for a company that is heavily invested in Solar technology! The last thing I want be interpreted as saying is that I like the health care system as it exists and that it doesn't need an overhaul. It does. Unfortunately I think many of the governmental remedies will make things worse. People like me will LOSE some benefits and pay more. Not just me personally, but my children as well who have my health plan. This guestbook just isn't designed to handle a discussion that large and I am not really up to the task of a doctoral dissertation on it. Heck, the people in Congress aren't up to it never mind me. I do think however that much of the debate is really just another political debate of entrenched demagogues like any other, and this is more about power and where it lies than with Deb's 14 year old son. He's just an innocent pawn in the battle.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 20:27:10 CEST 2009 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: The Band plays on . . . .

I'm actually involved in a "lively" discussion of health care reform (or as it's now been renamed "insurance reform") on my Facebook page. Mostly with folks I knew in high school and I had no idea some of them had turned into such right wing radicals. For this reason, one guy has been "unfriended" by several of us. Another friend, who played music with him when they were younger, told him he would always be his "music" friend, but no more Facebook, MySpace, etc. So I guess music transcends all of this? Right?

JF


Entered at Thu Aug 20 19:14:33 CEST 2009 from pool-74-108-34-234.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.34.234)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Funny remark

I was speaking to my 90 yo somewhat deaf aunt about her granddaughter, She tells me Anna is going to Birmingham, I thought for a minute and said "Do you mean Burning Man"?" She says "Yes" Just struck me funny


Entered at Thu Aug 20 18:02:25 CEST 2009 from 21cust223.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.223)

Posted by:

Steve

Tull, is the problem taxpayers' money or a philosophical one?

I ask in all seriousness because it's hard to offer reasons or arguments if you don't understand the source of the other person's real beef.

Yesterday I listened to very informative radio program on global warming and the Pentagon's interest in it.

While Presidents like Clinton, Bush and even Obama don't really seem to be taking the inevitable disaster really seriously the Pentagon has from as far back as the mid 90's.

One of the people interviewed was a researcher from The Pugh Institute who was trying to figure out why there had been so much resistance to accepting global warming as a real and serious threat in the US and to a lesser extent in Australia while it was accepted in Europe by a vast majority of citizens.

The Institute surveyed people who described them selves as Conservatives asking them if they believed global warming was real, if it was caused by humans and whether gov't regulation of American industry should be used to fight the problem, if it was one.

80 plus percent of respondents said global warming wasn't a man made phenomena, or didn't exist at all and that no regulation of American industry was needed.

When different people from this same group were asked if global warming was a man made problem that was threatening the survival of people on the planet and that the US could help cut the planet's over all production of C02 by turning the American Nuclear industry lose to produce as much C02 free energy as was needed, 80 plus percent said that global warming was a serious problem, that it was a man made problem and they would support a plan to rev up the American nuclear industry. Makes you scratch your head in wonder, doesn't it.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 17:49:06 CEST 2009 from (216.226.180.3)

Posted by:

Deb

Tull, I understand the difference between pre-existing conditions and Universal Coverage. I tossed out that example in response to your comment that the major problem was people who are uninsured due to job loss. I suppose where we differ is that I don't think that anyone should be denied some level of basic health care in a country as prosperous as this one. I'm not promoting face-lifts for Ronald Reagan's fictional welfare queen, but I am totally uncomfortable with the notion that some people "deserve" basic medical treatment and others don't. I've always tried to take care of myself and my family, but I can't stand totally pat on the idea that people who haven't made good choices should be turned away at the hospital door. We certainly don't have a problem subsidizing other entities who don't make good choices but do make good campaign contributions.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 17:34:19 CEST 2009 from mail.lumberg.biz (217.5.150.251)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Deb, what you are discussing are pre-existing medical conditions, not Universal Health Coverage. This can be addressed through adjustment of the existing health insurance regulations, not an overhaul of the entire system. I am not against fixing that, and I think it is fixable. Even though the terms 'compassion' get thrown around a lot in this debate, it is a political term being used to forward a political agenda. With the exception of psychopaths, we all care about other people and their problems. The issue is having the system work the most efficiently and fairly for the most people who contribute to it. For example, you do not receive unemployment benefits if you never had a job and contributed to unemployment insurance through payroll deductions. One way to address healthcare is to provide some minimal coverage attached to unemployment benefits, provided you had insurance prior to being unemployed.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 17:19:44 CEST 2009 from h-68-164-5-84.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net (68.164.5.84)

Posted by:

Pat B

What with the birthers and the deathers and the Christian fascists and those wide-eyed twits whose voices choke up as they compare Obama to Hitler and his SS death squads, I came across this gem. In a poll released today, a chunk of the American mob was asked:

"Do you think the Government should stay out of Medicare?"

The results: 39% said yes, 46% said no, and 15% said they were not sure. That means that a majority of those polled (54%) apparently do not understand that Medicare is in fact a government program.

You really don't need to know much more than this. When dealing with one of the most important issues of the day, a majority of the American population fucks up the single most basic concept of the discussion.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 17:02:28 CEST 2009 from (216.226.180.3)

Posted by:

Deb

Tull, where do you categorize people like my 21 year old nephew who can't purchase an insurance policy anywhere, for any amount of money because he has a pre-existing condition that he's had since age 14 -- and that he'll have for the rest of his life? He's not negligent or lazy, just someone who had an unlucky roll of the genetic dice. As did I, with another kind of chronic condition that requires expensive medication. It didn't appear until I was in my 40's and it ain't going nowhere til I die. Fortunately, I have good insurance now, but I went through a tough, lengthy waiting period when I changed jobs -- because the insurance with my old employer didn't cover the medication I need to function. Pre-existing conditions don't disappear or go into remission just because insurance won't cover them.

I respect the your sense of responsibility and that you work hard to take care of your family. I don't know you in any context but this Guestbook, but your posts about your family and your pets have always made me think of you as a caring person. It's been proven to me over and over that all of us are just an unseen catastrophe away from serious financial hardship when it comes to medical issues. Some of us just haven't had that experience yet, but when they do, they'll find that personal responsibility will only take one so far. And I do hope you never have that experience.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 16:45:41 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

You're right. Bureaucrats will screw it up. It will get entangled in red tape. It won't be cheap. But do you have any alternative? I think not.

Charlie mentioned Gil Scott-Heron last week as the true father of rap as we know it. I put forward Too Much Monkey Business for Chuck, but even so, Gil Scott Heron was someone I used to listen to around The Revolution Will Not Be Televised days. There’s one little bit that stuck in my memory, which is from Small Talk at 125th and Lenox.

A rat done bit my sister Nell. 
(with Whitey on the moon) 


Her face and arms began to swell. 
(and Whitey's on the moon)


I can't pay no doctor bill. 
(but Whitey's on the moon) 


Ten years from now I'll be payin' still. 
(while Whitey's on the moon)

That was written FORTY years go. No other comment needed!


Entered at Thu Aug 20 16:40:04 CEST 2009 from bas3-toronto02-1279463951.dsl.bell.ca (76.67.18.15)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Actor Kiefer Sutherland’s Grandfather Tommy Douglas Remembered for Bringing Universal Healthcare System to Canada


Entered at Thu Aug 20 16:13:22 CEST 2009 from mail.lumberg-automation.de (217.5.150.251)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Peter, the biggest problem we have here in the U.S. are the people who lose health insurance when they lose their jobs. Solving that, and I'll admit to not having a ready answer, would be a major improvement to our current system. The problem with any government run plan, health care or any other area, is the incrementalism that comes with it. You can propose to me a hypothetical, limited minimal coverage universal health coverage plan to me that I could agree with. Let's say a national 2% sales tax to give everybody preventative care and catastrophic coverage so that they do not lose their home if they require an organ transplant. Fine. But it just wouldn't stop there. Once in committee, things would get added on, year after year until we had fully nationalized healthcare, at exorbitant taxpayer cost, with even more inefficiencies and less freedom of choice than the current one, and run by the same governmental geniuses that have run the global economy into the ground, and fully politicized at that, with no going back, ever.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 15:59:18 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: At least there's a joke at the end …

I can see a major issue with Healthcare, in that the government in the USA does not own the hospitals, whereas in Europe the national governments already own a large percentage of the necessary infrastructure. That means you’re into the area where government departments can end up paying $200 for a $5 hammer (I think that was a US military example I read somewhere). A new scheme will have trouble controlling prices. But the programme I saw on TV yesterday said that the US government already pays out more per capita in health care than most countries with socialized medicine.

TullFan can still prioritize health care and pay to get improved service. Many people in Europe pay into private schemes as a top-up, to ensure (e.g.) private rooms, quicker access to minor ops, health checkups. The point is that everyone gets the full primary health care. The top up lets you get better secondary situations and better access. Having done it both ways, the difference in attitude from doctors to NHS patients and to private patients is huge. They patronize the NHS patient and tell them as little as possible. They talk to the paying customer.

You know the ancient joke. A surgeon went up to the Pearly Gates and walked straight to the front of the line. St. Peter asked why he was doing that, and he said ‘I’m a consultant surgeon.’ Then he looked through the gates at a man in a blue pinstriped suit marching through a crowd of angels, pushing them aside. ‘Who’s that?’ said the surgeon.

‘That’s God,’ said St. Peter, ‘He thinks he’s a surgeon.’


Entered at Thu Aug 20 15:49:33 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Presumably there's free medical for children in the States, as they can hardly be held responsible for the life 'n death decisions that adults can be expected to make for themselves. At what age does free coverage end?


Entered at Thu Aug 20 15:22:04 CEST 2009 from mail.lumberg.fr (217.5.150.251)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Steve, that's fine if you are happy about the healthcare taxes you pay in Canada and what you get for it. But you don't pay to our system south of the border, and when you support a position that effects me, then I will take issue. I can guarantee that my family loses either financially, service wise, or both, under any of the plans being debated right now. My responsibility is to myself and my family, not some other demographic. Among the uninsured are many, many people like my 45 year old sister, who works but has no insurance. She has no kids, lives my parents, and no debt. I have sent her link after link aof availably health plans she can subscribe to for as little as $65.00 per month for catastrophic coverage to $300.00 per month plans that cover preventative care, prescriptions etc. She can afford it but she doesn't prioritize it. Guess what she supports? Nationalized healthcare to be paid for by people like me. Screw her.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 15:17:41 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Subject: Like A Dribbling Fram

Charlie Y: Another fun Dylan parody was "Like A Dribbling Fram" by Race Marbles, which came out in '65 or '66 on Capitol. Race Marbles was really a Toronto dj (and later Hollywood script writer), Garry Ferrier. Not surprisingly, it sold well locally, and has appeared on one or two Pebbles-type comps. Somebody's best guess at the stream-of-consciousness lyrics (which were by Ferrier, not Mary Meyer as stated) can be found at the link, and a bit of googling will find a free listen. Ferrier'd had a bigger hit under his own name with "Ringo Deer" at the height of Beatlemania. He also co-wrote a "comedy" album called "The President's Conference on Canada" with some other DJs and two budding writers - Lorne Michaels and his then-partner.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 15:14:26 CEST 2009 from p4fcaf557.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.245.87)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

link: Stevie Ray Vaughan - Texas Flood (Long version)


Entered at Thu Aug 20 13:54:20 CEST 2009 from p4fcaf557.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.245.87)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Steve

Good morning to you I hope you're feeling better baby

Thinking of me while you are far away

Counting the days until they set you free again ...


Entered at Thu Aug 20 12:52:39 CEST 2009 from 21cust147.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.147)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Norbert

It was Christmas in prison

And the food was real good

We had turkey and pistols

Carved out of wood

Well, I dream of her always

Even when I don't dream

her name's on my lips

And her blood's in my veins



Entered at Thu Aug 20 11:43:52 CEST 2009 from p4fcad90f.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.217.15)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Preston Hubbard

Jeffo, as I hurt my back and have to sit around in a chair in the house (too hot outside with 36 degr. Celsius outside in Germany as I write), just read the man's story in one breath (Hubbard's site, see the link), thanks for pointing me to it. an excerpt

"I was very lucky. I had a big support network out there, got money on my books from mom, and a lot of mail, all of which are extremely important in prison. Getting mail can make or break your whole day. My heart always went out to the guys who had no one out there in The World. There was always humor and camaraderie in the dorm, and the occasional distraction of things like a rainstorm instead of the usual dust storms. We could see and smell it, cool and sweet, coming in from the mountains in Mexico, and it was delicious when it fell. We also got a beautiful snowfall on Christmas Eve, and although we weren't allowed out, we all clambered up to the windows, in shifts, to watch. The sunsets over the desert were spectacular. There was a ring-tailed cat, a beautiful desert creature who lived on the unit for a short time and always came out at night, nests of baby birds on the rec yards, and a real roadrunner who lived behind maintenance. I made myself always look for beauty in this most desolate of worlds.

Being out in the middle of the desert, we got quite a few sandstorms that would come in like a fast moving wall, stinging our eyes and faces, and coating the dorms with a fine dust. Rain was rare. We knew when it was coming. The clouds would obliterate the distant mountains in Mexico and we could smell it, heavy and sweet, even in the dorms. Rain was always a good excuse for the rec bosses to cancel rec, and keep us in. But one time it hit as we were all walking to necessities and, elated, we just gulped it in, like starving men. I walked most of the way there and back with my face to the sky, feeling that liquid coolness drench right through me. And loved every minute of it!"

All in all quite a story, it's all on his site, I wonder how's he doing now (missed that).


Entered at Thu Aug 20 09:59:17 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I know, music. But this health care issue does ring bells with everyone in one way or the opposite. So I’ll mentally define it as “health” not “politics.” There was a long piece in the Guardian yesterday about a guy who fell off a ladder while painting his house and broke his leg in the UK. He has American in-laws, and for the article, got his treatment, which involved several corrective operations under anaesthetic, costed by American doctors. $75,000 at a minimum. This US debate is much discussed in the UK, as it throws light on our NHS (National Health Service). The article had many criticisms of the NHS ( secondary care, not medical treatment), but pointed out that at the end he would have had to sell the house he was painting in America.

It was also pointed out that losing your job in the USA was far worse than Europe, because it meant losing your Health Care Plan in many cases.

Another article pointed out that one existing legacy of Senator McCarthy is that “socialist” in the USA carries the amount of approbrium as “paedophile” in Europe. They illustrated it with a picture of an old man carrying a sign saying ‘Public health care = socialism!” We can all live with the word here in Europe … and as I said last time, Scandinavia, Netherlands, France, Germany all have better systems than the UK.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 09:27:33 CEST 2009 from saintpaul.pioneerpress.com (198.36.218.33)

Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

RAM, Remote Area Medical started out giving free medical to third world countries over twenty years ago. For the last ten years or so they found more of a need in the USA.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 07:55:56 CEST 2009 from cache-mtc-ad10.proxy.aol.com (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

Friend0

Norbert.Bassist Preston Hubbard was missing and presumed dead for a long time. Heroin was involved. Surfaced in st louis several years ago. Still alive and as far as I know healthy.


Entered at Thu Aug 20 06:48:27 CEST 2009 from user-24-236-77-125.knology.net (24.236.77.125)

Posted by:

Deb

Well said, Charlie. I won't go any further, other than to say that I'd certainly rather have my tax dollars go to health care.

Since Jan specifically asked us to avoid politics, I've tried to, so I'll say this and stop: I've been amazed at the number of people in this country who aren't able to look at people who are uninsured through no fault of their own -- those laid off and unable to pay exorbitant COBRAs, those with pre-existing conditions who can't buy a policy for any amount of money, those with extreme situations who have hit the cap on their policies -- and say "There but for the grace of God go I."


Entered at Thu Aug 20 05:40:56 CEST 2009 from proxy-ny.cbs.com (170.20.11.116)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

It's funny that the same people angrily opposed to their tax dollars funding health care for Americans were OK with sending Americans to invade Iraq (a much more costly proposal) and not paying for it by raising taxes. It was the first time in American history a war was not paid for by increased taxes. My local paper had a letter from an angry woman today saying her tax dollars would soon go to funding abortions. I'm sure she didn't worry much about the corpses of two-year-olds dug out of Baghdad rubble created by American "smart bombs." Don't get me started. This is a music site.

Ever hear this old Dylan song called "Masters of War?"


Entered at Thu Aug 20 00:33:54 CEST 2009 from 21cust42.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.42)

Posted by:

Steve

Tull, I pay my share here. It works very well. If done right it should actually cost you less than it's costing you now. When you cut out the insurance leeches in the middle you lower your costs immediately. Remember the medical insurance companies make money by NOT providing health care. Every time they OK a procedure, test or surgery it removes cash from their balance sheet. They appear only to be involved to put a stick in the spokes and pocket every cent they can.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 23:08:49 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Both are on the Voiceprint UK website (I could have ordered them there, more conveniently than amazon USA). They credited to "Bear Records" as is a Quicksilver Messenger service set. So not "Bear Family" then.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 22:58:05 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Bears Ville

It's confusing, but I believe these releases are from Bear Records UK, not the German Bear Family label. Has anyone received a copy who care verify this?


Entered at Wed Aug 19 21:29:48 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks for the May 28th link. I missed it. To my knowledge, both Bear Family (Germany) and Voiceprint (UK) are legit labels. Both specialise in archive material, with Bear Family tending to huge box sets and Voiceprint to long lost (but due for renewal) albums and artists. So it would seem both are official.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 20:55:20 CEST 2009 from p4fcafe92.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.254.146)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: The Last Shadow Puppets "The Age Of The Understatement"

link


Entered at Wed Aug 19 20:17:28 CEST 2009 from mail.lumberg-automation.de (217.5.150.251)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Steve, why don't you come down here and pay for some of that health care you are espousing.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 20:13:02 CEST 2009 from proxy-ny.cbs.com (170.20.11.116)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Echoing Across the (Monty) Hall

Monty Hall has another connection to The Band besides the Canadian one. Steve Goodman did a great reference to Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" in a song which referred to Monty Hall and "do you want to make a deal?" I remember when that show was so popular when I was in sixth grade in Vista, California that I would walk home from school and hear the show from open doors and windows of virtually each house on my street. With no direction home...


Entered at Wed Aug 19 20:11:36 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: You're back at the computer, so I guess that means you've nipped inside to do some more laundry. If so, you mae wish to ask Ms West for help with your load. Just don't call her Miss Fanny, as that title's reserved today for Joni.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 19:44:59 CEST 2009 from 21cust228.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.228)

Posted by:

Steve

Hopefully Obama won't turn out to be just another Republicrat and will actually do something, anything concerning access to medical care that will justify all the venom being spewed by the right wing, wing-nuts of the Republicrats. The post by David yesterday that mentioned it was necessary for friends of Jim Dickinson to hold a benefit to raise money to pay his medical bills is pathetic in a country that boasts the world's largest economy.

Peter, it almost sounds like you're saying, Mae West would have driven, Billy, wilder on Sunset Boulevard? I know there's a good line in there waiting to be teased out. David?


Entered at Wed Aug 19 19:03:17 CEST 2009 from p4fcaed18.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.237.24)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Missing guitarist 'presumed dead'

Link (art from 2008): Missing Manic Street Preachers guitarist and lyricist Richey Edwards has been declared as presumed dead ....

anyway he's missing since 1995, but there is a bank account where his 25% share still goes.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 18:52:28 CEST 2009 from pool-74-108-34-234.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.34.234)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Peter V

Check "What's New" for May 28th That was when Jan put up the info on The Rick "bootlegs" from Voiceprint. I ordered it and just got it a couple of weeks ago. I think I mentioned it here. The sound quality is good and so is Rick.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 18:04:07 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Thanks for the Michael Shrieve link. Looks like he's doing pretty well, which is very nice to know. The music world can be so fucked up: a friend went to NYC in the late '70s to 'make it' and ran into Shrieve waiting tables in a diner - and this was after Santana and Go with Winwood and Yamash'ta.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 18:02:54 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Urge For Not Going

Charlie: While the snarled traffic was indeed a factor, according to Joni Mithcell herself it was (manager) David Geffen who urged that she not go in order to avoid any chance of not being able to appear as scheduled on Dick Cavett's tv show on the following Monday. Given the choice between Woodstock and Dick, following Geffen's advice, it must have been slightly embarrassing when Crosby, Stills and the Jefferson Airplane had no problem making it back to also appear on the Cavett show.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 17:53:39 CEST 2009 from bas3-toronto02-1279400076.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.24.140)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Happy Belated Birthday to Michael Shrieve! July 6, 1949.

Btw I think Arlo and Carlos had the best hair at Woodstock! ;-D

"I owe Michael a lot; He's the one who turned me onto John Coltrane and Miles Davis. I just wanted to play blues until Michael came. He opened my eyes and my ears and my heart to a lot of things. Some drummers only have chops, but Michael Shrieve has vision. Michael is like a box of crayons; he has all the colors." Carlos Santana

Hi Deee! I had posted that link once before but I thought it was very fitting to see Les Paul with Robbie again!


Entered at Wed Aug 19 17:41:46 CEST 2009 from 3dns1.euservices.com (65.222.206.254)

Posted by:

Scott

Location: Silver Spring, Maryland

Subject: Band at Woodstock

I am looking for a copy of the Band @ Woodstock....if anyone can help me out - please get in touch. My email is srs@aol.com Thanks, Scott


Entered at Wed Aug 19 17:39:35 CEST 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Charlie Y: Monty Hall's Wikipedia entry suggests that he'd been a singer, though fails to expand on that facet of his brilliant career. Wouldn't it be something if it turns out that a young Neil was inspired by him back in Winnipeg?

Speaking of lost treasure, I've done the math and come to the conclusion that that particular view is unlikely to be as treasurable as it once was. Sic transit gloria.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 17:08:16 CEST 2009 from c-67-163-116-176.hsd1.va.comcast.net (67.163.116.176)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Joni's Butt...and Jesse's Boot

Joni tried to get to Woodstock but the traffic kept her stranded in a nice NYC hotel, where she wrote "Woodstock," a song that ultimately made her more money that the gig would have. Of course, I'm sure she would have preferred to be there. Personally, I'd go for "door number two," the cash (Monty Hall was a Canadian by birth, too, wasn't he?). Speaking of female posteriors, which gatefold inside photo from a Joni Mitchell LP cover featured her standing nude facing the ocean? I remember my best pal had that back when it was released and the photo was more captivating than the music at the time. Perhaps that was the image tempting Neil Young to pinch Joni's bottom during TLW. In any case, it is another example of lost treasure in the age of the CD.

To answer Peter's question about Amazon and bootlegs, the new live Danko-Manuel and Rick solo releases are credited to the German Bear Family label on Amazon US. I know Amazon US does sell "imports" of questionable legality from the vendors who link to the site. There was one infamous Jesse Winchester bootleg live CD sold there (maybe still being sold there) which was so amateurish it had Jesse's name spelled wrong. His website asked fans NOT to buy it, but at last notice Amazon still had vendors with copies for sale.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 16:44:50 CEST 2009 from cpe-70-92-153-127.wi.res.rr.com (70.92.153.127)

Posted by:

DEE

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Thanks for the Link

Can always count on you to post the best links. Les Paul will soon be returning to Waukesha to be laid to rest in Prairie Home Cemetary.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 14:52:14 CEST 2009 from powell-goldstein-llp.demarc.cogentco.com (38.104.0.94)

Posted by:

David P.

Subject: CS&N minus Y and the Shadows & Light

Joni Mitchell didn't go, but, like The Band, Neil Young performed at Woodstock and chose not to be included in the film. Between the shadows & light, they remain in the shadows of this frozen moment of time.

In capturing those images of shadows & light, Woodstock film director Michael Wadleigh enlisted the help of two friends from the NYU film program, Martin Scorsese and Thelma Schoonmaker. Both helped him edit the footage and Ms. Schoonmaker was also one of the assistant directors. She would later become one of Mr. Scorsese's key collaborators over the years, acting as a second pair of eyes in editing almost all of his films. And what a keen set of eyes -- Nominated for six Academy Awards for editing, she's batting .500, winning Oscars for "Raging Bull", "The Aviator" and "The Departed". She received "special thanks" credit on "The Last Waltz".


Entered at Wed Aug 19 14:38:01 CEST 2009 from (131.137.35.77)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: hot flash - miracles of modern science

. . . I know that many of you are devoted fans, so I thought I'd pass this on as soon as I heard - Céline and René are expecting . . . . Should he live, he'll be 68 on the blessed day.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 07:43:29 CEST 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Woodstock live

I've always been less than overjoyed at the Woodstock original 3 album set, but yesterday I got the Sly & The Family Stone live set from Woodstock. The bit in the movie always was one of the best sections, but he's right up there all the way through. I couldn't believe that Everyday People and M'Lady didn't make the film, but you had to have the I Want To Take You Higher medley. As the cliché goes, 'they took no prisoners.'


Entered at Wed Aug 19 04:58:36 CEST 2009 from bas3-toronto02-1279425841.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.125.49)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The real "Heroes of Woodstock"

By Evan Minsker July 30, 2009

Band: The Band

Why they’re the real heroes: Although The Band got its break through Bob Dylan, its ability to write great American music dwarfed anything Dylan did with albums like Nashville Skyline. The Woodstock-based underappreciated rock legends managed to make a rootsy sound that brought together soul, country, and early rock 'n' roll.

Original members still alive: Three of five—Levon Helm, Garth Hudson, and Robbie Robertson.

Likelihood of them performing today: Slim. Robbie Robertson has been pretty adverse to a Band reunion after he said “no more” with The Last Waltz. Without Richard Manuel and Rick Danko’s voices, the show would just feel empty, anyway. It would just be better to have The Levon Helm Band play, since they’ve been established for so long, and maybe have Robbie and Garth make some guest appearances.


Entered at Wed Aug 19 04:34:00 CEST 2009 from bas3-toronto02-1279425841.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.125.49)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

By the Time I Get to Woodstock: Peace & Love in Retrospect

By Matt Melis on August 15th, 2009

“By the time we got to Woodstock, we were half a million strong

And everywhere was song and celebration” - from “Woodstock” by Joni Mitchell

“I never thought it was an amazing musical experience. Just like in the movie, the music was only part of the entertainment. As for the event itself, you feel proud to have been a part of it…But as a musical experience for The Band, we were like orphans in the storm there.” - Robbie Robertson, The Band

“Woodstock was a bullshit gig. A piece of shit. We played fuckin’ awful. No one was into the music. I think Stephen [Stills] was way overboard into the huge crowd. Everybody was on this Hollywood trip with the fuckin’ cameras. They weren’t playin’ to the audience as much as to the cameras…I could see everybody changing their performances for the fucking camera and I thought that was bullshit. All these assholes filming, everybody’s carried away with how cool they are…I wasn’t moved.”

Neil Young


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Robertson remembers Woodstock


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Posted by:

Peter V

Steve, at 58 Mae West turned down the part in Sunset Boulevard. Billy Wilder later said that in retrospect he was pleased because Mae West still looked as sexy and desirable as ever at that age, with no signs of the requisite "fading" beauty which was needed..


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, look at it in a positive way. At sixty something you can do something physically that you probably couldn't do in your 20's. You can get physically excited by a 60 year old female butt. Now, to stay in the mood sing a verse or two of " Always look on the bright side of life".


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Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: manuel

ooops....forgive me. it's MANUEL, not manual.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Danko / Manuel

I had overlooked the Danko / Manuel, basically because I have the circulating CDR that's O'Toole's Tavern dated "December 1, 1985". This is supposedly "12 December 1985. The Late Show." The December 1st one doesn't have Chest Fever listed, but I'd scribbled that Honest I Do is on it but not listed. The sound quality is mediocre at best. I wonder if they're the same? The label is given as "United States Dist." and it's 2 CDs not one. Or has the status of copyright reached the point where amazon are just selling bootlegs?


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Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: danko & manual

amazon's also listing a same day (Sept. 1) release of rick & richard "Live At O'Toole's Tavern, Scranton, PA, December 1985"...

(from the Amazon page): This performance features Danko and Manuel captured during the late performance at O'Tooles Bar in Scranton PA on the 12th of December 1985. The set list on this recording features the two artists in fine form throughout and also features The Band classics, 'Unfaithful Servant' , 'King Harvest' and 'Chest Fever'. As a document of two legendary musicians, this recording is an important one. It was also recorded less than three months before the sad and untimely death of Manuel. Bear Family.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Once again....Remembering Les Paul

....with a little help from his friends.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Forgot to note that the Woodstock revisited article in yesterday's "New York Times" came with a photo of Levon playing. He got the closing paragraph: "The Levon Helm Band's closing set included Band songs that were sung by Amy Helm (his daughter), Mr Campbell, Teresa Williams and Brian Mitchell. But much of its set was an American travelogue, dipping into blues, R&B and country, mentioning places in Tennessee, Texas and Louisiana. Mr Helm lives and regulary performs in Woodstock, N.Y., where the festival wasn't held. As with the Band, his own group's songs harked back to well before the 1960s, suggesting that for the land, and for America, 40 years is not long."


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Posted by:

Bill M

Norbert: Thanks for posting that explication of "Desolation Row". Just this morning I was listening to the Dylan song on "Planet Waves" about wandering "the hills of old Duluth" with Danny Lopez and Ruuuuth. This reminds me of a 1959 book I spotted in a used bookstore a couple of weeks ago, "The Jews in Minnesota: The First Seventy-Five Years". There's not much on Hibbing, and nothing at all on the Zimmermans of Hibbing, but I found it interesting that the author was, of all people, Gunther Plaut, who was then a leading rabbi in Minnesota, but would soon move to Toronto's Holy Blossom Temple. While Holy Blossom was/is pretty liberal, it seems unlikely that it was Plaut who tipped off Dylan about our guys, but you never know.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: And in the late '70s Harvey Brooks, Richard Bell, Jim Weider and Kal David worked briefly together at Axis Studios here in Atlanta.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: New Rick Danko set

Norm, when you get to our age, they've all got great asses. I don't know if it's failing eyesight, falling standards or just a more generous view of great. But among those great asses, Olivia has an impeccable posterior.

Anyway, amazon.com just e-mailed me to ask if I wanted to buy Rick Danko Live at Dylan's Café, Washington DC. Two CD set released on September 1st. I said "Yes, thank you." Did I miss an announcement? It must be official to be on amazon.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

Subject: http://www.bentroots.ca/index_bio.shtml

David P: Call me Meatloaf - it's all coming back to me now. We posted back and forth a bit re Dickinson's history at the time of the benefit, and the Hawkins connection was mentioned at that time. As for the Fabstones, I didn't know there was a third, but I'm happy to accept your suggestion that that's the one Richard Bell's on (and the implication that what I thought was the second - lotsa black on the cover? - was really the third).

Riffing off Bell a bit, he and Ed Roth played the Hudson and Manuel roles in a tremendously talented but unrecorded Toronto band of the '60s, Just Us. In '68, by then Bell-less, they moved to California and recorded a albums as Merryweather and Merryweather/Carey. Kal David was the guitarist in the latter, still with Roth on organ. Roth soon returned north and wound up as Daniel Lanois' studio keyboard guy (including accordion on "Acadie"). I see that he and other local veterans have a new CD under the name Bentroots, which I'm looking forward to hearing. Looks like Ed's concentrating or accordion, leaving organ duties to the illustrious Michael Fonfara. Anyway, it's nice to see two remaining keyboard giants of the local scene still making new music.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: Sadly, it was about 3 weeks ago that a benefit concert was announced to raise funds to help cover Jim Dickinson's medical bills. The concert, on Aug. 8th, featured John Hiatt, the North Mississippi Allstars (with Luther & Cody Dickinson) and many others.

I forgot about Richard Bell playing with the Fab Rhinestones. It must have been on their third album, as I still have their first and second, which was "Freewheelin'" (with a cover photo taken at the Joyous Lake club).


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Posted by:

Jack

Subject: Jim Dickinson / Bill M

Bill M, you are not experiencing a deja vu; with the death of Jim Dickinson. He just died on Saturday! Thank you David P.


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Posted by:

Peter Stone Brown

Location: City of Brotherly Love
Web: My link

Subject: Jim Dickinson RIP

David, When I posted the news of Jim's death, I knew that if anyone would come up with a connection, it would be you.


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Posted by:

Bill M

dlew: Thanx. I appreciate you completing my carnival EP - believe it or not.

sadavid: Fortunately, the skool song's already been written - "Willie And The Hand Jive". Maybe Lloyd could even get the remaining members to perform it at the grand opening?

David P: Am I experience deja vu re Jim Dickinson? Didn't we note his passing a couple of weeks ago? Also, re the Fab Rhinestones, let us not forget that Richard Bell was on their second LP. Kal David played a jazz club in Toronto earlier this year, so I guess that's what he's up to nowadays.

Dave H: I agree re the Richard Manuel material.

Ari S: Thanks for the link to the Ricahrd Manuel interview. He always came across as a very thoughtful and engaging person in any interviews I've seen.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon Helm Band closes Woodstock 40 in Fine Shape

AUGUST 17, 2009 • 10:04 AMAUGUST 17, 2009 • 10:04 AM

By Walter O'Brien

Levon Helm and band close out the 40th anniversary of Woodstock at Bethel Woods. (Walter O'Brien/Staff) Opening his set with The Band classic “The Shape I’m In,” drummer Levon Helm and his band ended in excellent form maybe not three days but nearly eight hours of fun and music on the Bethel hillside once home to the original Woodstock festival.

Although Helm reportedly took the night off singing due to a battle with throat cancer, his daughter Amy handled vocals and sounded great on Band classics including “Chest Fever,” “Long Black Veil,” and “The Weight.”

The exodus of vehicles leaving the scene after Helm’s set were a lot less muddy, a great deal more orderly, and more BMW and minivan than VW bus and bug than the last big Woodstock here on the former Yasgur’s Farm. But as the lights went down on the Bethel Woods stage, the town of Bethel seemed to have finally made peace with the event of a lifetime that put them on the map.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Always Somethin!

Jesus Peter, you sound like some gawd damn prep school kid! "an impecable posterior?"

You mean, she's got a great ass! I stop in here for a minute to find you're discussing old Livy's ass.

I get up at 06:00, am having my coffee and find some pretty cool movie on the tube. "Red Hot" 1950's Russia, where you get throwed in jail for playing rock and roll music. Pretty cool sound track.



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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: In My Own Time (cont.)

Fabulous Rhinestones drummer Greg Thomas also appeared on Ms. Dalton's album. Mr. Thomas would later play with Gene Clark, including the "Under The Silvery Moon" compilation that also featured Rick Danko.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Bright Lights, Big City, Strange Fruit

"Karen [Dalton] had a voice like Billie Holliday's and played guitar like Jimmy Reed."
--Bob Dylan ("Chronicles")

Just to add some additional comments about Karen Dalton's "In My Own Time" album -- John Simon also contributed on piano, along with (Ian & Sylvia) Great Speckled Bird members Amos Garrett on guitar & Bill Keith on pedal steel. The album also featured interesting covers of Percy Sledge's "When A Man Loves A Woman" and Paul Butterfield's "In My Own Dream".

Another relevant & timely link is that it was released on Woodstock promoter Michael Lang's Just Sunshine record label. Harvey Brooks' group the Fabulous Rhinestones also recorded on Just Sunshine. Other members of that band included former Illinois Speed Press guitarist Kal David and former Buckinghams keyboardist Marty Grebb, who would later collaborate with The Band on "Jubilation".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dlew: On an admittedly small sample of three (adding Danni), Australian ladies would be internationally famous for having nice rear ends. I don't think Olivia N-J reached the heights of her Grease performance before the movie or after it, but I do think she had that moment in that film where she shone, and in 1978 she would have been the female superstar of all.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: oblivia neutron bomb

she's hard to classify. An average 'raw' talent, she certainly worked very hard to become a major star, in oz, of course, the uk and the us. As mark holden a judge on australian idol said: she had no outstanding abilities except the capacity to sell a ton of records. Kylie minogue as well (and peter v has commented favourably on their behinds). I must say, though I loathe grease, it's not because of the stars.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Karen Dalton - In A Station

I’d heard a lot about Karen Dalton with the sudden revival of interest a few years ago. I downloaded her version of In A Station. It was recorded at Bearsville Studios in 1971 with Richard Bell and Harvey Brooks on bass. A further Band link, which was new to me, is that Katie’s Been Gone was written about her. I don’t know whether Richard Bell is on organ, piano or both, but both are really great. The drums are a bit “busy”. It’s well worth a 79p download.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: In A Station - Olivia Newton-John

In A Station. On the discography entry on the site for Olivia’s In A Station, paragraph 2 is mine. Paragraph 1 (describing her as saccharine) isn’t mine. She’s basically singing to The Shadows minus Hank Marvin, with the excellent addition of Herbie “Walk On The Wild Side” Flowers on bass. At that time Bruce Welch of The Shadows was deeply enamoured of her. It’s commonly said that Dylan was fond of her version of If Not For You too, on the same album.

I still can’t turn up the album after 15 minutes searching, but then realized I would have it on CD archives of covers of The Band and found it. She has some trouble with the Manuel vocal tremelo on the end of lines like ‘something to GIVE’, and stretched words like I can taste your h-a-i-r’ but not many people would dare attempt it, and she’s very good overall. The burbling bass part is outstanding. There’s a guitar part imitating Robbie, but another guitar adding other frills, probably John Farrar. The song suits a female voice.

I always liked Olivia Newton-John, and think her performance with John Travolta on “You’re The One That I Want” is one of the great three-minutes of pop on film (cue snarky aside from Anonymouse). And she has an impeccable posterior in that leather gear too.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Interview with Levon adn Larry Campbell by Happy Traum

Thanks Happy


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

The other thing about Band compilations is how most of them seem to follow the Last Waltz set list--or at least the songs shown in the film. Obviously there's a fair amount of overlap with the best-known/greatest hits anyway, and you'd expect The Weight, Dixie, Cripple Creek, and Shape I'm In no matter what. But it seems one explanation for the ubiquitousness of Ophelia, Stage Fright, and ISBR, and one additional consequence is the under-representation of Richard Manuel. Personally, I'd take Ain't No More Cane over nearly anything from Cahoots onward, and I can't imagine trying to turn someone onto the Band without playing them Whispering Pines.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Route 29 Revue

Jan: I'm glad you got to use those tickets and that you were in the front row. That venue has a weird way of letters as I recall. Last year I thought I had front row tickets for Joe Cocker and Steve Miller, but was actually around ten rows back.

The first time I saw Levon and The Band was in June 1971 in the third row at Meriweather Post, so it is cool he played there again all these years later. Thanks for the report. I agree with you about Old Crow Medicine Show. I saw them at the 9:30 Club several years back and they were a bit over the top at times--like the equally frenetic Averett Brothers who are now ROLLING STONE magazine fodder after years on the bluegrass festival circuit. You've likely seen them, too, Jan.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Woodstock 40th anniversary at Bethel Woods: the Levon Helm Band has taken the stage

AUGUST 16, 2009

Thanks Tim.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: Days Between Stations

PV, and just what about that Oliva Newton John "In a Station?" I remember bringing it up years ago and no one would cop to ever having heard it. So? And have you heard the Karen Dalton?


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC/Maryland

Subject: Levon at MWP

Amen to Steve H from Maryland and his review of LHB from last night. The rest of the players did step up, but Levon was beating on those drums like he always does. Was good to see him shaking hands and talking to the fans from the stage after the set. After I had put my camera away, he brought his grandson out to say "hello" (and "bye bye") to the fans. What a time not to have my camera out and ready to go!

I'll also have to agree about OCMS - they were quite kitchy, IMHO. Very talented and could do some serious harmonies on the old-time country stuff, but some of their numbers were just over-the-top. Maybe the young folks like them for that reason. Seemed like good theatre to me . . . also, when have you ever seen a group with two banjo players under 30??? One banjo player (who also played a mean dobro) was barefoot, had on faded jeans, an old cowboy shirt, a straw porkpie hat, and eyeliner. They had 2-3 of the Felice Bros join them on a couple of numbers – I mainly noticed the drummer since OCMS does not have a drummer.

We left about 10 pm b/c hunger got the best of us. Found out there is no food available after 10 pm on a Sunday night in Columbia MD and onward toward Gaithersburg except Mickey D’s.

Re: Iron and Wine - Mr. Steve actually fell asleep during his set!

JF


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: boston
Web: My link

Subject: Robbie's Mother

Some nice comments from the Hawk


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Posted by:

SteveH

Location: Maryland

Subject: Levon Performance at MWP

I was also at the Route 29 Revue show last night. We arrived early, about 2:45 for a show that started around 3:30. Justin Jones, a local country rocker, started off. I liked him a lot though I had never heard him prior to this show.

The Felice Brothers I had heard of, but don't think I'd heard them. I wasn't as impressed as Jan F. Some of their slower material I thought was really pretentious, but the more up-tempo numbers were good.

Never heard of Grace Potter and the Nocturnals either, but her voice is terrific and the Nocturnals were quite good. We all liked her, she rocked.

I had heard Iron and Wine, but he really didn't fit in with the tour. One or two numbers would have been plenty but he went on and on. Couldn't wait for him to finish and not just so we could get to the Levon Helm Band.

First, the bad news. Levon didn't sing at all. He didn't even speak as far as I could tell. He was having some type of throat problem and I hope it's short-lived. But, have you ever seen all the other players on a ball team step up when the star is hurt? I think the rest of the band really went all out and it was a great show, even better than their last appearance in Baltimore. Larry Campbell is so talented, as a singer and musician. The horns were kicking it, and Brian on keyboards did some great New Orleans work. A tremendous performance that really took the place by storm.

Wish my ride had stayed for all the OCMS portion which began about 9:40, but only saw about 4 of their numbers which were good. They seem more like city boys pretending to be hillbillies, but maybe I'm just a cynic.


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Posted by:

Across The Great Divide

Location: Working my canal boat on the D&H in Summitville NY, where's my damn mule?
Web: My link

Subject: The Band at Woodstock

The Band - August 17, 1969 - Bethel NY - Woodstock Festival - 10:30 PM German 2004 bootleg with The Band live at the Woodstock Music Festival, Bethel, NY August 17th 1969. Soundboard -- excellent sound. Differs from the 2000 bootleg with the same title, dropping "Lovin' You Is Sweeter Than Ever," but adding "We Can Talk" and "I Shall Be Released." Tracks 1. Chest Fever 2. Don't Do It 3. Tears Of Rage 4. We Can Talk 5. Long Black Veil 6. Don't Ya Tell Henry 7. Ain't No More Cane On The Brazos 8. This Wheel 's On Fire 9. Lovin' You Is Sweeter Than Ever * 10. The Weight 11. I Shall Be Released Note: "Lovin' You Is Sweeter Than Ever" was played at Woodstock and most likely came before "The Weight". * To keep the integrity of the original setlist as described by various sources "Lovin' You Is Sweeter Than Ever Has been included in from the 2000 boot in this offering. There is varying information and opinions about this show and what set was played that night but a simple search on this site should be enough to find more about this night. 40 years ago the Band put on one of the best shows of the festival and it remains to this day in almost complete obscurity. Why this was once again excluded from another Woodstock commercial offering is inexcusable. So sit back and enjoy, you're about to go back in time, just stay off the towers and PLAY IT LOUD!


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Subject: Jawbone

Dlew, I've gone through periods were Jawbone was the greatest song in music. I've tried playing it on drums and guitar (even on bass) and it's no easy song to play. Think of the arrangement on that song. I even get lost just listening to the song in second chorus (i think Levon falls behind a bit, but he covers it up.)


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Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: You're rock legend Bob Dylan? NJ police officer treats him like complete unknown, asks for ID

http://www.courant.com/sns-ap-us-people-bob-dylan,0,5635066.story


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Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: disc compilations

i've often put together single-disc compilations of my personal favorites for a particular group or artist that i use in the car (and sometimes at home). but try as i might, i could never do it for The Band -- there are just too many favorites! so i figured the only use for a one disc set would be for the very casual fan, and the 2 disc list was more of an attempt to fill in some of the gaps of a one disc set...something that could show more the full range of the group, but even that seemed like a futile exercise.

now that i have a unit that plays mp3 discs in the car, i don't have to choose: i've burned all Band albums, plus their tracks from basement tapes, the new stuff from last waltz, faves from musical history onto one mp3 format disc.

i agree with peter v that we can talk is absolutely essential, and i would add, for me, unfaithful servant from rock of ages...well, the list goes on and on. i did try to capture something from each studio album, plus choice live tracks, but something inevitably gets left out. certainly rock of ages can serve as a wonderful single disc introduction to The Band, as much as any other "hits" package. i just thought i'd share my ideas, and see what kind of response i'd get. thanks for sharing.



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Posted by:

Deb

That's what comes of posting too quickly at work. The link is to an interview with the late Jim Dickinson.


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Posted by:

Deb

Web: My link

Jim Dickson talks about his career in production in the link above. His video "Down in Mississippi", also on Youtube, is worth checking out while you're there.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Route 29 Revue "Review"

Old Crow Medicine Show

Levon Helm

Iron & Wine

Grace Potter

Felice Brothers

Justin Jones

Well, this probably needs to go to e-mail to Charlie, but I was not able to travel to Atlanta this weekend to help my sister after she got out of the Warm Springs Ga Rehab center last week. She fell earlier in July and had been in a hospital and then the rehab hospital for a couple of weeks.

So, Charlie, I ended up using the tickets I tried to sell you and . . . guess what?? They were front row (not center, but not on the end either).

The concert was supposed to start at 1 pm but thank goodness we didn’t get there “on time.” I think it must have started about 3:00 pm as we got there about 4 pm and the first act was just getting done. Anyone here on the GB that might have been there can correct me if I’m wrong.

Justin Jones was the opener and he was pretty good.

Next were the Felice Brothers (don’t they play at Rambles sometimes?) were really good – high energy, country rock.

Grace Potter and the Nocturnals were the real draw for us --- we had missed her at the Wanee Festival in Fla in June and were told she was the best act there. Well, she was actually pretty disappointing, a little “poppy” for my taste. The kids sitting next to us were fans of hers and said she was not as good as usual. They said she is usually pretty hard-core rock, blues and a little R & B. Outstanding singer though.

A lot of the folks at the concert (I’d guess most were 20-30 somethings) were really psyched for the next act, Iron and Wine. Sam Beam is a folk singer-type performer who most of the time plays with a full back-up band. Last night it was just Sam and his guitar. He has been compared to Simon & Garfunkel, Nick Drake, etc. His performance last night reminded me more of an (semi)angry version of Dan Fogelberg. The combination of hunger (no good food choices at WMP) & the heat made me feel his set went a little long. In retrospect, it turned out no one played more than an hour.

I declare that this post has gone on long enough. Levon Helm Band and Old Crowe Medicine Show in the next post.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Jack

Subject: R.I.P. Jim Dickinson

Mr. Dickinson was also the father of Luther and Cody Dickinson, two-thirds of the Grammy-nominated North Mississippi Allstars, Dickinson’s career highlights are numerous and span over four decades: he recorded the Rolling Stones’ “Wild Horses” in Muscle Shoals, Alabama; formed the Atlantic Records house band The Dixie Flyers to record with Aretha Franklin and other R&B legends.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: The Best of the Rest

The first list put down was pretty spot on, from my humble point of view - Get Up Jake I think is a wonderful song, rockin' chair.

I'd put 'Jawbone' as an example of what these guys were capable of - I mean, what time signature is it in? (3/4, 4/4, and I think a 7/4, or perhaps a 7/8).


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: R.I.P. Jim Dickinson

The great Jim Dickinson played on Ronnie Hawkins' 1971 Cotillion album "The Hawk", recorded at Miami's Criteria Studios.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Best of The Rest …

Yes, maybe the best route is CD1 "The Bleedin' Obvious Best-Known" (which promotes This Wheel's On Fire for sure) and CD2 "The Best of The Rest". "The Best of The rest" is the more interesting exercise.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: compilation CD

I wouldn't know where to start in compiling a "Best of" CD. If it was a personal choice I'd leave out all he obvious selections such as The Weight, Dixie and Cripple Creek. Strawberry Wine would be a starter for sure.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Band compilations

There are 31 Band compilations on the discography. See the link to "The Shape I'm In" which isn't chronological. I'd thought it was done as a theoretical concert sequence, but apparently not. I always quibble at the exclusion of "We Can Talk" because to me it's essential, and if you're just looking for the best 75 to 80 minutes of The Band, rather than a chronological story, I'd exclude "Islands" altogether. Personally, I'd always put Twilight on, because you expect one non-album track. It's surprisingly hard to do a Best of … with sufficient range in 75 minutes. Looking at the 1998 "The Shape I'm In" (probably the best one), you have to lose one of the 18 tracks just to get We Can Talk on, and they all 18 seem essential.

In the end, 'Share Your Love ' would have to go to admit We Can Talk which leaves nothing from Moondog Matinee. And I like Daniel & The Sacred Harp more than Twilight. And then again, This Wheel's On Fire is missing and would be one of the best selling songs (in terms of cover versions and AbFab soundtrack).

It's interesting because I think a "Best of …" would differ from most people's personal best twenty. Doing a personal "Best 20", Daniel & The Sacred Harp, The Rumor and Jupiter Hollow would all get written down on my list long before Ophelia, I Shall Be Released, Stage Fright, and anything from Moondog Matinee, Islands or Cahoots. But that's a personal "Best of …" not a list designed to show "The Best of …" or "The Best Known of …" or "The Most Representative Of …"


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Ari S.

I really like this quote too. "Robbie and I write together or separately," said Richard. "Our music has come from a variety of influences really. I think it's just the most comfortable type of music for our collection of people. We're not trying to out-rock anybody, or to outdo them. We let it be as natural as we can."


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Web: My link

This is the first article I've read where Richard is the speaks on behalf of the group.


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Posted by:

Ernie Banks

Man, oh man. Now that's the kind of endorsement old Bap Kennedy can take straight to the bank!


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Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: Band compilation ideas

I don’t know if this has come up before in the guest book, but I thought I’d try my hand at a couple of Band CD compilations. Many groups have “best of” or greatest hits” discs that somehow come up short; that exclude certain tracks, or fail to provide an accurate snapshot of the group. So I challenged myself to come up with a single-disc Band album for the casual fan, and a two-disc anthology that would paint a more thorough portrait of The Band.

I envisioned the single-disc as a chronological run-through of their studio albums, with the live version of Don’t Do It from Rock of Ages thrown in. I picked Georgia rather than Livin’ In A Dream or Knockin’ Lost John from Islands as the final track so that Richard had a little more representation. I realize that this track listing isn't too different from what's been done before.

The Weight; Chest Fever; Up On Cripple Creek; The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down; Rag Mama Rag; King Harvest (Has Surely Come) ; Time To Kill; The Shape I'm In; The W.S. Walcott Medicine Show; Stage Fright; Life Is A Carnival; When I Paint My Masterpiece; Don't Do It [Rock of Ages]; Share Your Love With Me; Mystery Train; Ophelia; Acadian Driftwood; It Makes No Difference; Georgia On My Mind

The two-disc anthology includes more live tracks, plus a couple of Basement Tapes tunes, a live “Slippin’ and Slidin’” from Musical History, but nothing from Before The Flood or Last Waltz, and no outtakes either. This compilation would not be for hardcore Band fans that own everything anyway, but for the casual fan who wants something more than a “hits” album.

(disc 1) Don't Do It [Rock of Ages]; King Harvest [Rock of Ages]; Ain't No More Cane; The Weight; Up On Cripple Creek; The Shape I'm In; This Wheel's On Fire; Rag Mama Rag [Rock of Ages]; We Can Talk; Ophelia; Rockin' Chair; Look Out Cleveland; Loving You (Is Sweeter Than Ever) [Rock of Ages]; Mystery Train; Stage Fright; When I Paint My Masterpiece; Chest Fever; Time To Kill; Share Your Love With Me; Get Up Jake

(disc 2) Orange Juice Blues (Blues For Breakfast); Ain't Got No Home; The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down [Rock of Ages]; Across The Great Divide [Rock of Ages]; Acadian Driftwood; Tears Of Rage; It Makes No Difference; Daniel and the Sacred Harp; In A Station; Slippin' & Slidin' [Musical History]; When You Awake; Whispering Pines; The W.S. Walcott Medicine Show; Unfaithful Servant [Rock of Ages]; Life Is Carnival [Rock of Ages]; Twilight; I Shall Be Released; Smoke Signal; The Rumor

I hope this starts a good discussion on what belongs and why for each of the compilations. Enjoy!


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Al Stewart is co-billed with Jesse Winchester here in Old Virginny this week (Tuesday night at The Birchmere).


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Posted by:

Peter V

In my folk club days (every Monday evening), a youthful Al Stewart used to do Desolation Row every week. And extremely well he did it too. I might even have said 'Watch this lad. He'll do well one day."

I'd have to find the number of the Smith & Jones Deconstruction Company for a hand on the lyrics. Michael Gray, Song & Dance Man is recommended.

Do look out for Bap Kennedy's Howl On. There's a running theme about the 1969 moon landings. It's looking likely to be my album of the year with four months left to go.


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Posted by:

Ernie Banks

I can hardly breathe just thinking about it.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Desolation Row II

A pity this isn’t a Dylan site too, would love to see a Peter Vinney about Desolation Row. Peter could eat his heart out on the hanging in Duluth and Einstein and reciting the alphabet (e = mc 2).


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Desolation Row

Anyway, our Dylan tribute (link).


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I recently wore the same outfit while in NYC as Robbie wore at Woodstock.

COLUMN FORTY-EIGHT, AUGUST 1, 1999

(Copyright (c) 1999 Al Aronowitz)

MY DYLAN PAPERS:

PART 1---THE WOODSTOCK FESTIVAL

[History will remember Bob Dylan as the Shakespeare of his era.

There's no doubt about that in my mind. To me, Bob is one of those madman geniuses who has chiseled his niche in the common consciousness. The Shakespeare of his time? He's a cultural Alexander the Great!

For me, hanging out with Bob was like being an extra in that great movie called history. Yes, I wanted to help make that movie, even if only to play a bit part in it. That's why I hung out with Bob. People always try to hitch their wagons to stars, thinking some of that stardom will rub off on them. To Bob, all of us who thought we were his buddies, were just hangers-on to be unceremoniously discarded as he climbed to fame, sometimes using our backs as rungs in his ladder, finally reaching a pinnacle at which he contemptuously decided that fame is a curse.

Did he blame us? Or did he blame his own ambition? Obviously, fame is exactly what he himself had sought. Yes, I knew he was going to be one of history's giants---more than a mere pop superstar. He knew it, too. To conquer the world, you have to have the confidence to know that you've got what it takes. And what it takes is psychic power---a term Bob used often in his conversations with me. Bob knew early on that he could draw an audience, attract worshippers and manipulate them into doing his bidding.

Worshippers such as me. He played with me like a cat with a mouse, but still I worshipped him. He treated me like a fool because I was a fool. Aren't we all, or at least most of us, at some time or another? Nobody's perfect, not even an Alexander the Great. Too often, the psychically empowered are endowed with such a reservoir of mental mightiness that they can afford to squander some of it on nothing but entertainment. Such as head games. Head games have always been one of Bob's favorite sports. Does he still enjoy making himself feel bigger by making others feel smaller?

As a hanger-on, I was in effect a courtier. Courtiers in the courts of the psychically powerful can end up badly hurt, and Bob has left behind a long trail of hurt courtiers. As I've often said, just because someone is one of the greatest artists ever born doesn't make him one of the nicest guys who ever lived.

I guess I still worship him. But from a distance.

Because this month marks the 30th anniversary of both the Woodstock Festival and Bob's Isle of Wight Festival, I'll begin MY DYLAN PAPERS with a two-part piece I wrote about those events. Portions were first published in the New York Press.]

PART 1: THE WOODSTOCK FESTIVAL

As a higher power suddenly began wringing out the dark and dirty clouds overhead, I joined Albert Grossman and Robbie Robertson in racing for shelter inside the rear of The Band's rented equipment truck, which had been parked backstage. Robbie was the leader of The Band and Albert was The Band's personal manager and one or two of the other members of The Band got in out of the rain with us. We were on Max Yasgur's farm in rural Bethel, New York, where, almost overnight, a community of nearly half a million had encamped for what was to evolve into several days of a quasi-religious gathering that would be celebrated as one of the most significant cultural events of the times. We were at the 1969 Woodstock Festival, where the backstage area resembled a midway at a carnival, with The Band's rented truck parked as if it were another concession stall, with its tailgate facing the midway. The Band's equipment had just been unloaded and the emptied room-sized cargo box of the truck could have held a dance floor. The only problem was that there was no place to sit down. As someone lit a joint and we passed it around, I watched The Band's then-new road manager, tall, thin, somber-faced and blond-haired Jonathan Taplin, brave the downpour to make sure that all the unloaded instruments and equipment remained safe and secure beneath tarps or within tents. Only when Taplin was satisfied that everything would keep dry did he come in out of the rain to join us. Maybe I'd seen him around once or twice before, but this was the very first time I can remember ever taking full notice of Taplin. He wore glasses and, although his facial hair was so light as to be virtually invisible, he seemed to need a shave. That was because he was trying to grow a beard.

"Is he The Band's new road manager?" I asked Albert.

Albert grunted in the affirmative.

"Where'd you get him?"

"From Central Casting," Albert answered.

"Well, he sure seems to be dedicated," I said

Albert grunted again. In a few weeks, I would learn just how dedicated a road manager Jonathan Taplin was.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Woodstock set list and Cancelled Acts and Declined Invitations and some recollections of that special time and place in musical and social history.

I remember walking home from school at the time Woodstock was released on film with a classmate and she was going on about Joe Cocker's hand movements. My older brother had the 8-track of the concert which of course broke up some songs. I especially liked watching the very young Mike Shrieve having an orgasmic moment. I've read on the inet that when Santana was performing some musicians were trying to figure out if he was on Mescaline or Acid. I also really enjoyed Sly's band which included both genders and black and white musicians who epitomized youth culture and the rebellion against the "All the squares go home". On my VHS recording of The Band and Arlo Guthrie, etc.....You didn't miss too much excitement but I bought it used as I was a pretty good completist at the time. And then there was the concert at the Isle of Wight which showed how the cultural and economic tide had already changed....

The Band's Set List

Chest Fever

Baby Don't Do It

Tears Of Rage

We Can Talk

Long Black Veil

Don't You Tell Henry

Ain't No More Cane

Wheels On Fire

Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever

The Weight


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Upcoming Christmas album will lift Dylan from darkness

But after Dylan’s upcoming Christmas compilation, even babies will point the lurker and welcome the suspicious-wandering-around–the-house-in-the-dark-man with a warm; Santa!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Deconstructing Woodstock

Yesterday I parked next to a van, and it had on the side (Smith and Jones, or whatever) Deconstruction Company. I wondered if they would come out on call, and help you through a Thomas Pynchon novel, or do a university essay on Joseph Heller. Then two guys in high-visibility yellow jackets got in and started eating their sandwiches. Then I saw a pick-axe leaning against the side. I suspct they were engaged in the demolition business rather than the LitCrit job.

Wikipedia has a near-complete set list / performers schedule from Woodstock. The delights of Sweetwater, Mountain, Blood Sweat & Tears, Quill, Bert Sommer, Keef Hartley are also among the missing. The review I read mentioned that some of these make the 6 CD set, but none of them enhance it.

The context of the festival had The Band directly after Ten Years After’s Going Home travesty. In retrospect, at festivals (and so in films of festivals) electric lead guitar cuts through the mud and the blood & the beer in a way that vocal harmonies don’t, and poor monitors mean that stuff like The Band or CSNY don’t come across with the same impact as one bloke with a screaming guitar (Alvin Lee, Jimi Hendrix) and muffled backing.

The “Woodstock Experience” 2 CD sets are mainly Sony artists … Janis, Johnny Winter, Santana, Sly plus Jefferson Airplane. I don’t know how Jefferson Airplane make the series, as they were always on RCA, but the way conglomerates are conglomerating nowadays, who knows? What you get is a contemporary album (Stand! for Sly, Volunteers for Airplane) bundled with the Woodstock set. If you’re a fan enough of the band to want the live set, it’s unlikely that you don’t have the album. I used to have a bootleg of the Airplane set and it was awful. But I reckon they were generally a pretty awful live band according to recordings, but I treasure every studio album.

The smart thing for The Band to have done, not being Sony artists, would have been to release their Woodstock set this week as a free-standing item, benefitting from all the publicity for the main set without having to be in the middle of it, nor having to agree to whatever deal was on offer.


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dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Mike Seeger RIP

Obituary for Pete's half brother - an important figure in his own right.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

I had dinner at a Logan's Roadhouse restuarant thanks to a gift card from my daughter and had to laugh when the song that came on their sound system on my way out was The Band doing "The Shape I'm In." [Even though I SKIPPED dessert!]

Gene: I like that line about CCR being "barely better than Ten Years After" at Woodstock. That's pretty bad. Janis Joplin, the Airplane and Grateful Dead had off days, too (so maybe it was a bad weekend for West Coasters)--but then there was ShaNaNa.


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Posted by:

Steve

On this Woodstock birthday I'm enjoying a Woodstock Inn Brewery, Pig's Ear Brown Ale. Ah, Gene, if I'd said they sucked I'm sure the boot video would have proven otherwise.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: CCR @ Woodstock

Truth be told - they were gawd-awful as the boot video attests, barely better than Ten Years After. They musta had some of the brown acid, man.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Someday Soon

How could I forget to mention Van Dyke Parks on piano.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: David P.

David - Thanks for the Someday Soon, Judy Collins recommendation! I scored the CD and it has been on my playlist for weeks. James Burton's percussive lead guitar with muddy walking bass, Buddy Emmonds incredible pedal steel, Steve Stills on bass, and Jim Gordon drumming - unbelieveable. I heard it back in the day, but hearing now, on a my high end system, with Sennheiser HD 600s is intoxicating. Thanks again, and don't ever leave.


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Posted by:

Peter Stone Brown

Location: City of Brotherly Love
Web: My link

Subject: Jim Dickinson RIP

There's no real Band connection I know of, though he did play with Dylan, but I thought quite a few people here would be interested to know that the great Memphis-based musician, keyboard player, singer, producer Jim Dickinson passed away earlier today. Here's the link from the Memphis Commercial Appeal: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/15/memphis-musician-jim-dickinson-dies-67/


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Rap, Woodstock and Van the Mean

I'd say the guy who "invented" what has become contemporary rap and hip-hop music would be Gil Scott Heron, a more gifted artist than 99% of the artists who operate in those genres today.

On the other hand, older is NOT always better. I've been listening to the XM/Sirius Woodstock weekend and a lot of those performances are awful. I'm not surprised The Band didn't want to wind up with their songs mixed in with endless drum solos, lame lyrics and amateurish musicianship, all mixed in with general hippie nonsense.

I was surprised to read a fairly mixed review of one of two Van Morrison concerts in DC recently including these tidbits from Dave McKenna in the WASHINGTON POST: "for folks who looked forward to spending the evening with a distaff diva, Van the Man delivered...[with] not so much as a hello or thanks to fans who'd paid up to $350 face value to share a room with him...[yelling] at bandmates and stagehands like Buddy Rich on a tour bus." Ouch!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Contender?

Too Much Monkey Business, Chuck Berry? Or has it got too much tune? Probably.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

An Addendum: first mainstream rap song recognized by this body until otherwise proven otherwise by an otherwise recognized source that can be seconded and verified by an otherwise trustworthy body.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'd third it as the first rap song, but I'd bet anything we're all wrong. I have a friend with a library of blues transcription LPs going back to the 1920s, and he has hundreds. Whenever you mention something (like the Bo Diddley "hambone" beat) or a lyrical reference to the crossroads, or a guitar solo, he'll always delve into his records and find you an example from the 1940s. As you sit amazed, he'll then find you an earlier one from 1926. You're completely astonished, which is when he finds the 1921 true original. Then he says he's sure it existed earlier. He's done it so many times, that I'm wary of ever using "first." I think we COULD say the "first popular radio-friendly well-known rap song" though.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I'll second Subterranean Homesick Blues as the first rap song.


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Steve

I heard CCR's version of Screaming Jay Hawkins', I Put A Spell On You, from the new Woodstock album. Fogerty, in his prime, at his best.

Do you think Albert is still running things from the grave? Maybe he put a spell on old J2Rs or Levon back in the 60's that has staying power.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Band at Woodstock

Woodstock. The story is that The Band refused permission for inclusion on the 6 CD set. What’s doubly sad is that several individual complete Woodstock sets are being released next week … Janis Joplin, Jeffeson Airplane and Sly and The Family Stone (and a couple of others). The review I read said the (only) one to get was the Sly & The Family Stone set (Sony Legacy). I think I will, he was at his height then.

There’a link somewhere below citing the producer as saying The Band’s 45 minutes were among the best of the whole lot, having heard the tape. They then said permission was refused. A few lines later they said that some performers demands were “outrageous.’ Hard to know which it was.

It’s impossible to comment on WHY The Band refused without knowing the ins and outs and whether it was one member or all. The Band’s refusal is odd in that they allowed three tracks to go on the 25th Anniversary Box Set (Long Black Veil, Loving You, The Weight), and then allowed The Weight to go on the Woodstock Lost Sessions video, which then went on to DVD. Later the DVD was a “free covermount disc” with a British magazine a few years ago. So it’s around, and they gave permission before. The Lost Sessions video / DVD and CD was around so long that you’d think it was automatically part of Woodstock.

It’s not automatic to comply with such requests, even if publishers and record companies expect it to be so.

On a vastly smaller scale, I had two recent requests for English teaching short story extracts of mine that I refused. One was from Japan saying the publisher wanted to put it in an anthology for schools with a several hundred thousand print run, and were offering $50. Well, the standard fee for anthology extracts 30 years ago was £60 ($100). And this was now. The publisher probably thought I was “outrageous” but I didn’t see why they should get my work that cheap. And didn’t care in the least that it wasn’t included. One was from Germany to use a story in a state exam for a similar fee. They had altered the text to fit the exam questions, and what they had altered it to, was just bad very old-fashioned English. My UK publisher said, ‘But it’s something you’ll never even know about. Just take the money,’ but I thought ‘Why should they get stuff for virtually nothing?’

On the plus side, The Band Woodstock set is the most likely Band bootleg you’ll see at a record fair, possibly in multiple versions.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Headlines

The Dylan story reflects on the minds of newspaper editors. Seeing the headline “LIKE A COMPLETE UNKNOWN” in the morning paper, I flicked through four or five others on the rack. Guess what? They all had the same headline.

In doing so, I found the headline of the day. Apparently George Michael crashed into the back of a truck, shortly after regaining his licence after DoI arrests and driving bans. He had been weaving all over the road just before the crash, and was being tested for drink and drugs. The Sun, (Murdoch press) found the story so important it filled the front page. The headline? GEORGE MICHAEL SHUNTS TRUCKER UP REAR.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subterranean Homesick Blues, was the first RAP song!

Sadavid, hopefully the bookstore will carry local bus schedules.


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Posted by:

Specto

Location: Scotland

Subject: Woodstock

Is the Band set from Woodstock gonna be released anytime.Are Levon, Garth and Robbie witholding permission?


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Posted by:

John W.

In Jersey anything's legal, as long as you don't get caught. (LOL)!


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Why would Dylan sell out?

I don't know, but who among us would not sell up, if a suitably sized cheque was written with our name on it? I don't blame him at all, if tha's the reason...


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

I saw the Dylan story too. I hope a great song comes out of this.


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Posted by:

John W.

Subject: Bob Dylan Picked Up By The Cops!

This has to be one of the funniest stories of the year. Amazing that it's not gotten more media coverage. From ABC News: (sorry I rewrote some of it and I'm terrible with paragraphs.) Talk about "a complete unknown." Last month in Long Branch, New Jersey, some homeowners noticed a suspicious looking person, an "old man", walking around their house in the pouring rain. There was a "for sale" sign in front of the house. They watched out the window as this man, dressed in black sweatpants, boots, and hooded raincoat, walked up the driveway, 'round the back, out to the front etc. Suspicions aroused, they actually followed the guy as he walked down the street and then circled back toward their house, at which point they called the police. Responding officer Kristie Buble, 24 years old, confronts the man and asks his name, he says I'm Bob Dylan. "Now, I've seen pictures of Bob Dylan from a long time ago and he didn't look like Bob Dylan to me at all," she told ABC News. "So I said, 'OK Bob, what are you doing in Long Branch?' He said he was touring the country with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp. So now I'm really a little fishy about his story. I did not know what to believe or where he was coming from, or even who he was. We see a lot of people on our beat, and I wasn't sure if he came from one of our hospitals or something," Buble said. She asked for identification, but Dylan said he had none. She asked where he was staying and he said his tour buses were parked at some big hotel on the ocean. Buble said she assumed that to be the nearby Ocean Place Conference Resort. "He was acting very suspicious,'' Buble said. "Not delusional, just suspicious. You know, it was pouring rain and everything." Following her police training, Buble said she indulged him. "OK Bob, why don't you get in the car and we'll drive to the hotel and go verify this?' " she said she told him. "I put him in the back of the car. To be honest with you, I didn't really believe this was Bob Dylan. It never crossed my mind that this could really be him." Buble made small talk on the ride to the hotel, asking her detainee where he was playing, she said, but never really believing a word he said. "He was really nice, though, and he said he understood why I had to verify his identity and why I couldn't let him go," Buble said. "He asked me if I could drive him back to the neighborhood when I verified who he was, which made me even more suspicious. I pulled into the parking lot," she said, "and sure enough there were these enormous tour buses, and I thought, 'Whoa.'" Her sergeant met her at the hotel parking lot. "I got out of my car and said, "Sarg, this guy says he's Bob Dylan,'" Buble said. "He opened the car door, looked in, and said, 'That's not Bob Dylan.'" "So we go over to the tour bus and knock on the door and some guy answers and I say, 'Are you missing someone?'" "Who's asking?'' came the reply, according to Buble. "I was in full uniform, so I say, 'I'm asking! I'm the police.'" Eventually, the police were shown Dylan's passport, which Buble said she looked at, saw the legend's name, and rather sheepishly handed it back to Dylan's manager. "OK,'' she recalled saying as she smiled. "Um, have a nice day." A police department source said Buble had taken her share of good-natured ribbing from some of the older officers. "To really appreciate the story from our end, you have to see Kristie," one cop said. "She looks like a 16-year-old kid, next to this living legend. It was unbelievable." In fairness to Buble, Dylan has a long history of intentionally seeking anonymity, often with hooded sweatshirts and other limited disguises. In October, 2001, he was held up at a checkpoint at Jackson County Exposition Center in Oregon as he attempted to get into the backstage area of his own concert, according to the Associated Press.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: bill M

life is a carnival


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: yeah, but . . .

If you'll permit me a personal note, I was much distressed by this journalistic indignity visited on my dear ol' Alma Mater . . . .


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: yet more peace and music

_Slate_ / Magnum have chosen more from the Elliot Landy oeuvre for today's "Today's Pictures" - the Woodstock Festival performers. 3 shots of Bandsmen included.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Thanks Dlew.

Lars, I'll remember to mention how much I loved him TLW, and then I'll ask if Robbie ever reimbursed him for the gas he spent on driving him to the book store to write Dixie.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Rhymes & the Dimes They Are A-Changin'

Brien Sz: In 1993 a group called The Mystery Tramps recorded several different mixes of a hip-hop/rap take on "Like A Rolling Stone" that incorporated samples from Dylan's original version. The following year marked the turning point for Dylan into the world of commercial advertising, as he allowed the Richie Havens cover of "The Times They Are A-Changin'" to be used in an ad for the Coopers & Lybrand accounting firm.


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: "Hot August Night" a musical triumph? What a ghastly thought. But having to consider the other Neil did at least remind me to suggest that the industry powers that be issue a medicine show EP for us old timers - ""W.S. Walcott Medicine Show", "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" and "Brother Love's Travelling Salvation Show" and one other. Suggestions, anyone?

"Brother Love" has echoes not just of "WS Walcott", but also of "Across The Great Divide". Compare "Pick up the babies and grab the old ladies" with "Get yourself a bride and take your children down by the riverside". (We'll ignore the suggestion of premarital sex and also the possibility that our guys are really singing "Get yourself upright" - sort of a precursor to "Get up Jake".)


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: he's baaack . . . .

Last Waltzer Neil Diamond's CBS special tonite.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I personally love the ad with Dylan and Will-I-Am. I think it just shows how Dylans words can be used in newer expression of music - the SuperBowl ad was a 60 second spot I believe. It actually has surprised me that more rap artists haven't tried to cover Dylan as many Dylan songs have a very rap rhyming pattern to them.


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Posted by:

Claire

Subject: The Woodstock Channel

XM/Sirius Radio played back-to-back Band songs, Chest Fever and Don't Do It, at 12:25 and 12:30 today on the Woodstock Channel 40. What a pleasure! If I heard correctly, they will feature performances by The Band on Sunday.

Thank you, Jersey Girl, for the great tip.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Forever Jung

Bill M: There are those who feel that Dylan should have his head examined for allowing the use of "Forever Young" in a Pepsi ad campaign. The ad, which premiered during the Super Bowl broadcast & remains in heavy rotation, features William James Adams Jr., former frontman in the Black Eyed Peas, whose nom de rappe is Will.i.am (but Dylan he ain't). A brief sampling of Dylan's recording with The Band is also included. Jungian analysis might dispove that Dylan's primary motivating force was spiritual in nature.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Ari / Lars: Maybe Bloomfield was tired of Butterfield, but maybe he was also tired of playing just the blues (even blues with a raga edge)? And maybe he liked the thought of being a co-leader? And maybe there was money on the table?

Anyway, I've been listening to a new reacquisition, the "Planet Waves" CD from Sony's prestigious Special Editions catalogue, which also includes titles like "The Best of Classic Rock Vol. 2", "the Sex of It - Vol. 1", "Rock Fever" and Toto's classic "Hydra". While I'll freely admit that it was one of things I discarded when I culled my collection of the Band's every recorded burp and fart, I now like the thing. Even if Dylan didn't make use of three of the greatest voices in rock and roll, and even if he chose to taint the prayer-like glory of "Forever Young" by including a lope-along rock version as well. Since it's hard to imagine Richard, Rick and Robbie NOT thinking of their own children while recording lines like "May you build a ladder to the stars / May you climb on every rung / And may you stay forever young", I guess it's fair to say that Sebastian is the only GBer ever to have come to mind during the recording of a song by our guys. Hope that realisation doesn't bruise any egos around here ...


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Posted by:

Gina/Mizar6

Web: My link

Thank you for posting the obituary of Ezra Titus on this site, it took some time to relocate it in the Levon Helm guestbook... As one from the ~Steely Dan fan forums i remember Ezra had also been involved in this guestbook menagery for a while.. and i appreciated him as a writer. That's why this final paragraph from the story "Kauai" seems so meaningful:=======: Life without the specter of death looming over us at times would be a lesser miracle. And, as for miracles, the bigger they are, the more useful is the ability brought forth from within the one who performs them. This is the law of life in time.(Ezra Titus, 2005)


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: authentic

Yesterday, Jan's "News and Updates" presented a link to Jim Linderman's blog, "Dull Tool Dim Bulb." Lots of old, weird stuff there . . . and I came across this nice little appreciation of The Basement Tapes - see [My link].


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Ari: cool experience

A Band-Bite type thing might have been cool (with Carol's permission, as you state), but just meeting Elliot Landy is pretty cool - something you'll be able to tell your friends in the future.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Caught in the Devil's Bargain...

The producers of the 40th Anniversary Woodstock DVD edition and Rhino CD box set were unable to obtain permission to use any of The Band's performance. The anniversary has understandably created quite a buzz in the media, including the internet. Recently at the www.stevehoffman.tv discussion forum, where many music industry people participate, someone (BRush), who worked on the anniversary project, posted the following:

"I pushed really hard to get the Band on the 40th Anniversary DVD. I located the 1" Master tape of their set thru Robbie Robertson and sync'd up the footage. We had about 45 minutes of their set, which was probably my favorite set of the fest, since I wasn't overly familiar with it like The Who or Jimi. I spoke to Michael Lang about them, he said that he didn't think they went over very well, probably because they followed Ten Years After and Johnny Winter. I was very disappointed we couldn't clear the Band, but we needed approval from each member which turned out to be difficult. There [sic] performance is stunning."

"I was surprised that we couldn't get approval from more of the acts. We wanted more tunes from: Sly, Janis, Richie, Arlo, John Sebastain, CSNY. Some of the acts did want more money, some wanted to own the footage, some didn't return the calls, others had outrageous demands that we couldn't meet. As it turned out, we got to include more songs by the acts we could clear. I was pretty thrilled we got The Dead and CCR..."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Baby What You Want Me To Do

The Seville Guitar Legends finale in 1992 had four pretty fair guitarists on Baby What You Want Me To Do … Les Paul, Robbie Robertson, Richard Thompson and Roger McGuinn.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods, particularly this swamp maple

Subject: Mike Bloomfield

ARI- I remember reading about Mike Bloomfield recently. While his official reason for leaving BBB was to give the other guitarist, Elvin Bishop, "a little space" he was probably tired of Paul Butterfield's intimidating behavior. Sredni knew Paul and he still imitates him with a gravel-voice "Where you come from, boy?"

Mike left "Butter" to form his own group, "Electric Flag."

BTW, when you drop by to see Levon at his home, it might help if you mention that you really liked him in "The Last Waltz."


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Does anybody know why Mike Bloomfield left Paul Butterfield? I'd always guessed that it was just because Bloomfield was a session and didn't want to restrict himself to one group only.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Les is More

A friend just informed me Les Paul was also inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame. I didn't even know there WAS a Grammy Hall of Fame.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Elliot strikes again

As anniversary fever sweeps the boomersphere, _Slate_'s "Today's Pictures" feature features a terrific Landy Woodstock Festival slideshow. See [My link].


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Web: My link

Subject: Satellite Woodstock

Starting tomorrow at 12:00 p.m. (is that midnight or noon?) the Deep Tracks channel on XM/Sirius radio will become the Woodstock Channel. The satellite radio outfit's website promises something from "members of The Band," but read closely I fear it might just be music: "The Woodstock Channel, celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Woodstock Music & Art Fair held at Max Yasgur’s farm in Bethel, New York in 1969, will launch Friday, August 14 at 12:00 pm ET and air through Sunday August 16. The channel will be devoted to the historic music festival featuring music, interviews and memories from the artists who were there, including Graham Nash, Leslie West, Arlo Guthrie, members of The Band, members of Creedence Clearwater Revival and Joe Cocker."

We can only hope the tantalizing use of the plural "members" means there will be interviews.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Mr. Paul

I'm sorry to hear about Les Paul, but very grateful a friend told me about his weekly shows at the Iridium in NYC a few years ago. I was lucky enough to go there the very week Mr. Paul did a DVD signing at a Manhattan store the day after his Monday night show, so I got to meet him twice and have him sign artifacts of his amazing life. If you haven't seen that wonderful PBS documentary about him, track down a copy. It is remarkable.

I've never seen a guy of any age enjoy playing music in front of an audience as much as Les Paul did in his 90s. He will be missed by many of us--and his legacy will live forever as the only person inducted into both the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame AND the Inventors Hall of Fame. We won't see any more like old Les.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Les Paul

Thank you Bobby for posting his obit. I saw him some years ago at Iridium in NYC. He was wonderful! RIP Les and thanks for all the great music.


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Posted by:

Bobby Jones

Subject: Les Paul - RIP

By LUKE SHERIDAN The Associated Press Thursday, August 13, 2009; 12:56 PM WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. -- Les Paul, who invented the solid-body electric guitar later wielded by a legion of rock 'n' roll greats, died Thursday of complications from pneumonia. He was 94. According to Gibson Guitar, Paul died at White Plains Hospital. His family and friends were by his side. As an inventor, Paul also helped bring about the rise of rock 'n' roll with multitrack recording, which enables artists to record different instruments at different times, sing harmony with themselves, and then carefully balance the tracks in the finished recording. The use of electric guitar gained popularity in the mid-to-late 1940s, and then exploded with the advent of rock in the mid-'50s. "Suddenly, it was recognized that power was a very important part of music," Paul once said. "To have the dynamics, to have the way of expressing yourself beyond the normal limits of an unamplified instrument, was incredible. Today a guy wouldn't think of singing a song on a stage without a microphone and a sound system." A tinkerer and musician since childhood, he experimented with guitar amplification for years before coming up in 1941 with what he called "The Log," a four-by-four piece of wood strung with steel strings. "I went into a nightclub and played it. Of course, everybody had me labeled as a nut." He later put the wooden wings onto the body to give it a tradition guitar shape. In 1952, Gibson Guitars began production on the Les Paul guitar. Pete Townsend of the Who, Steve Howe of Yes, jazz great Al DiMeola and Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page all made the Gibson Les Paul their trademark six-string. Over the years, the Les Paul series has become one of the most widely used guitars in the music industry. In 2005, Christie's auction house sold a 1955 Gibson Les Paul for $45,600. In the late 1960s, Paul retired from music to concentrate on his inventions. His interest in country music was rekindled in the mid-'70s and he teamed up with Chet Atkins for two albums. The duo were awarded a Grammy for best country instrumental performance of 1976 for their "Chester and Lester" album. With Mary Ford, his wife from 1949 to 1962, he earned 36 gold records for hits including "Vaya Con Dios" and "How High the Moon," which both hit No. 1. Many of their songs used overdubbing techniques that Paul had helped develop. "I could take my Mary and make her three, six, nine, 12, as many voices as I wished," he recalled. "This is quite an asset." The overdubbing technique was highly influential on later recording artists such as the Carpenters. Released in 2005, "Les Paul & Friends: American Made, World Played" was his first album of new material since those 1970s recordings. Among those playing with him: Peter Frampton, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton and Richie Sambora. "They're not only my friends, but they're great players," Paul told The Associated Press. "I never stop being amazed by all the different ways of playing the guitar and making it deliver a message." Two cuts from the album won Grammys, "Caravan" for best pop instrumental performance and "69 Freedom Special" for best rock instrumental performance. (He had also been awarded a technical Grammy in 2001.) Paul was inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame in 2005. Paul was born Lester William Polfus, in Waukseha, Wis., on June 9, 1915. He began his career as a musician, billing himself as Red Hot Red or Rhubarb Red. He toured with the popular Chicago band Rube Tronson and His Texas Cowboys and led the house band on WJJD radio in Chicago. In the mid-1930s he joined Fred Waring's Pennsylvanians and soon moved to New York to form the Les Paul Trio, with Jim Atkins and bassist Ernie Newton. Meanwhile, he had made his first attempt at audio amplification at age 13. Unhappy with the amount of volume produced by his acoustic guitar, Paul tried placing a telephone receiver under the strings. Although this worked to some extent, only two strings were amplified and the volume level was still too low. By placing a phonograph needle in the guitar, all six strings were amplified, which proved to be much louder. Paul was playing a working prototype of the electric guitar in 1929. His work on taping techniques began in the years after World War II, when Bing Crosby gave him a tape recorder. Drawing on his earlier experimentation with his homemade record-cutting machines, Paul added an additional playback head to the recorder. The result was a delayed effect that became known as tape echo. Tape echo gave the recording a more "live" feel and enabled the user to simulate different playing environments. Paul's next "crazy idea" was to stack together eight mono tape machines and send their outputs to one piece of tape, stacking the recording heads on top of each other. The resulting machine served as the forerunner to today's multitrack recorders. In 1954, Paul commissioned Ampex to build the first eight-track tape recorder, later known as "Sel-Sync," in which a recording head could simultaneously record a new track and play back previous ones. He had met Ford, then known as Colleen Summers, in the 1940s while working as a studio musician in Los Angeles. For seven years in the 1950s, Paul and Ford broadcast a TV show from their home in Mahwah, N.J. Ford died in 1977, 15 years after they divorced. In recent years, even after his illness in early 2006, Paul played Monday nights at New York night spots. Such stars as Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page, Dire Straits' Mark Knopfler, Bruce Springsteen and Eddie Van Halen came to pay tribute and sit in with him. "It's where we were the happiest, in a `joint,'" he said in a 2000 interview with the AP. "It was not being on top. The fun was getting there, not staying there - that's hard work."


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Buster Phillips

Buster, go to the direct link to Levon's website. They should be able to take care of you there.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Billy Bishop goes to war ...

I really enjoyed this article about John Gray, half of the duo that wrote and is about to revive a brilliant two-man play about a real WWI 'flying ace'. (The other half is likely best-known as Oscar Leroy on "Corner Gas" - jackass.) A later well received Gray music-based play was "Rock and Roll", which basically told the story of his early '60s Nova Scotia band, the Lincolns. Two Band links: one of the lead roles in "Rock and Roll" was played by John Rutter, who was known as Johnny Rhythm when he fronted Robbie Robertson's old group, the Suedes; and another ex-Suede, Robbie's boyhood chum Pete Traynor, was the soundguy on the Lincolns' reunion LP done in the '70s. Note that those Lincolns had just an ephemeral relationship with the late-'70s-till-now Toronto-based R&B band of the same name. Nouveau Lincolns boss, uberbassist Prakash John, got permission before using it, and somewhere in the '80s a horn guy who'd been in the early band passed through the second. To tie things back to a couple of days ago, the guitarist in the second Lincolns when they got around to recording their only album, was Danny Weis.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Jan F.: Can't say I do...I'm about 3000 miles away. We have Hardly Strictly Bluegrass out here every October, though, and Gillian Welch usually makes an appearance. This year's lineup, amazing as usual, includes the following with direct connections to our guys (plus a million more with two degrees of separation): Emmylou Harris, Mavis Staples, John Prine, Allen Toussaint, Buddy Miller, Neko Case. No Levon though....too bad, he'd fit right in.


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Posted by:

Buster Phillips Drummer on Levons Record

Location: I am in Tennessee and would like to speak to Levon
Web: My link

Subject: Would like to say hello to Levon

Levon: I would like to talk to you. Call me if you will.865 354 3869- or 865 250 6180 We did your record at Bradley's Barn. Please give me a call. Thanks Buster Phillips Drummer.


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Posted by:

Peter V

In A Station by Olivia Newton-John isn't especially hard to find in Britain, as her used LPs abound. I found it on an LP last year for less than the cost of an iPod's download. I have to sort out LPs - they're in cardboard boxes, and unlike my CDs and 45s, about half of them are not in any order. I collect 45s avidly and tend to pick up LPs as I spot them without much rhyme or reason, except 'That's too good to be in the box of 50p stuff.' I just tried to find my O N-J, as it has an interesting line-up of British musicians from memory. I'll look later.

Borders (who look on the way of Woolworths to me) have Band CDs at £2.99 currently. Whenever I see them, I think "That's too cheap!" and have a strange wish to rescue them from the racks.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Subject: Met Elliot Landy today

I had gone camping with a friend on Tuesday and after we finished hiking and sleeping in Saugerties near the North/South Lake Campground we decided to check out Woodstock. I forgot how to get to Big Pink (shame on me) but we decided to go to one of those great Woodstock thrift shops that has a strong smell of incense. Anyways, as we were walking out I literally did a double take and saw none other than Elliot Landy. He was selling a print of Robbie and Levon practicing in Rick's House to two boys when I introduced myself. I went up to him and told him I had just finished reading his new hardcover edition of his book. He was very kind and because I didn't know what to ask him I asked him directions to get to Big Pink. I regret not having asked him where exactly he took the picture of The Band cover photo. I also mentioned this site and he knew what I was talking about. Should have conducted my own personal BandBite (with Carol's permission of course).

I also met a woman who said she could arrange for me to tour Levon's house. I was bashful and caught of guard so I turned it down, I was of proper attire you see. But she said next time I'm in Woodstock, they'd gladly give me a tour of his house. Did I just pass up a chance at meeting him though?


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: In a station covers

Looking around ITunes to see if they posted the hard to find Olivia Newton John Cover of "In a Station" I came acoss the Karen Dalton version. Didn't really know who She was: I'll let you do your own research. But the cover is very strange and knida cool. To me, Bob gave us all the Christmas we could ever want with the underrated "Three Angels."


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Posted by:

Peter V

An album to check out for all you Ray Davies fans … Madness's new one "The Liberty of Norton Folgate." As usual with Madness, it's ska meets The Kinks in style.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Rick Danko photo

Bridgeton, New Jersey

Scott: "My favorite memory from that day is photographing Richard Thompson from the side of the stage and having Rick sit down next to me. He was eating ice cream and telling me how great Thompson was. Good times." 14 Januarie om 06:48 vm.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Steve /Decompensate

Steve, Yes indeed, I did learn the word from Richard. It is pretty widely used in Psychiatry.(And medicine, see the "heart" definition.)

Glad to have provided you with a "new" word.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Blondie Chaplin "Cheatin' Heart - Demo" (Rick Danko)


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Dave H - do you ever go to the Gettysburg Bluegrass Fest?

J.F.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jason Schneider: Whispering Pines Book Review

The Northern Roots of American Music... from Hank Snow to The Band


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Pierre

Location: La France

l'Algérie Française!

l'Algérie Française!

l'Algérie Française!


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks Dave, I'm big Gillian fan as is probably obvious. Most of her songs are great to play and sing, easy chord progressions make the songs possible for me to sing while I play. I've even put the effort into learning Rawlings' picking in some of the songs, the easier ones. They're fun to play once you get them under control.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Location: Momo de la Casbah
Web: My link

I wrote “demographic explosion”, It’s more accurately overpopulation Ksentini meant, the repeated tune can be translated “Where is Lolo? He’s behind you, He’s in front of you” …I suppose that Lolo was the friendly nickname wrapping any newcomer circa 1900
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^

The poet is known under the friendly nickname Momo de la Casbah
Unfortunately, the mediatic success and the hyperrealism of Zinet’s movie “Tahia Ya Didou” didn’t serve his public image, as 99% of the wide public in his homeland conserved the role he played [0:18 & 2:12 in the link], a half-mad homeless standing on the north levee, proffering all along the story what would be confuse delirium or high standard poetry, wrapped in quasi sexual words addressed to the beloved, city of Algiers.
It turns out that the man has a phenomenal resume, poet, philosopher, actor, and an outstanding swimmer, world champion in 1948.
Momo is Himoud Brahimi, 1918-1997. Author of several books on philosophy and a poem collection, he played in Tarzan movies with Johnny Weissmuller. He’s is even hero in a comics strip by Jacques Ferrandez, depicted as a surreal character who speak with the gulls.
He dedicated his last years to the restoration of the Casbah patrimony. A quote from his mate “Bebert”, friendly nickname with whom he used to call Albert Camus “unlike the common belief that there’s not enough love in the men, the tragedy of the world is due to the fact here is too much love in the mankind and too few things to be loved”
The movie “Tahia Ya Didou” (196?) is an hymn to independent Algiers. paradoxically the title means “Have a good life, Didou”, Didou being the friendly nickname widely used to refer any Pied-Noirs, deformation of an expression they used “dis donc”

Momo “Ya Bahdjati” (rough translation Beautiful city)

From this north levee, the beautiest sight to see
If I had to choose among stars, to compare
No celestial body would know how to darken
The light of the verb that you hide
No sacred place, nor any capital, would know how to gather
What every morning the sunrise offers you as festoon
There where the poet says what the heart finally let know quite surrounding.
There where the poem, as a loaf of bread caresses the hunger of intelligence.
There where religion has tendency to bypass itself for the good of the fellow man
. There where music enchants the wind and makes waves and fishes dance.
There where people listen to the seagulls telling the odyssey of their forefathers.
In this sacred perimeter, my God, allow Algers the grace.

Talking of celestial body, don’t miss the Perseid shower tonight, as I used to post every year in this day


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Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Sleigh Lady Sleigh, Sleigh Across My Big Brass Bed

The link off from the previous New Yorker link takes you to the Daily Mail story.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan Christmas Album: more theories...

Hmmm.....


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Steve: The Gillian-fest sounds terrific. When the Dry Branch Fire Squad recorded "Orphan Girl" they retitled it "Orphan Child" for just that reason.


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Posted by:

Steve

Joan, decompensate sent me to the dictionary. Did your husband's ( Richard?) occupation bring you into contact with the word? I'd never heard it before. Actually my spell check gizmo doesn't even recognize it. Thanks, I'll add it to my slow growing vocabulary.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Steve/ Company

I'm impressed! I decompensate when I have 2 couples for dinner.


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Posted by:

Steve

In the last post I meant to say, Down Syndrome, not autistic. Apologies.

Bill, we have a 100 by 40 barn that is completely open inside. It's basically a large airplane hangar type building. I put a round bale of straw in there and everyone takes straw off the bale and puts about 6 inches of straw on the cement floor under their tents. We started doing that a few years back once the climate started to change ( rain ALL summer) for the worse. Everyone used to camp in the orchard but when hail and torrential rains started making that rather unpleasant they asked if they could move into the barn.

Marge tells me there were actually 62 people here, I just estimated 50.

Only Marge's parents and two of her wimpy sisters don't camp out, our boys have to give up their rooms for four days.

There were also 9 dogs at this years party. 6 of them were unfixed males. Needless to say there were some skirmishes but no blood flowed.

I did a complete set of Gillian Welch songs Saturday night. It went well, I even had a nephew playing an acoustic bass ( regular guitar size) this year. I had planned on getting one of Marge's sister to sing the songs and asked her about it around Christmas giving her plenty of time to learn them, I even supplied a CD with all the songs. She told me , just two friggin weeks before the party she can't get into singing Gillian's songs. So, I sang them all. It went fine though I felt kinda strange singing, " I Am An Orphan Girl!"


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Something's burning ... and I think it's burger

Steve: Assuming you're getting our weather, good thing you have a barn, eh? I can't imagine welcoming 50 of MY relatives inside the house for four days to escape the biblical rains. Even if they left their eight-tracks in the car.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Say It Ain't So

Did Palin really say, " out loud", that if Obama's health care reform passes as it is death squads will be sent around to kill autistic children?

We had an autistic adult here for the weekend at our yearly family reunion. He's my sister in law's 45 year old brother, Tim.

He has a fixation with garbage. He likes to spend his time cleaning up and during a 4 day, 50 person party he was kept busy. At one point he and I were sitting on the deck and out of the blue he said to me, " Kenny's in the truck". I had no clue what he meant so I asked him to explain. He said, Kenny, you know Kenny, he's in our truck.

At this point his sister came by and I told her Kenny was in the truck. She said I didn't have to tell her, she'd had to listen to friggin Kenny for the whole six hour drive coming to the party. Kenny turns out to be Kenny Rogers, Tim's musical fixation.

I didn't feel sorry for my sister in law having to listen to Kenny. She's a Celine Dion fanatic and last fall we stayed at her place for two days and were subjected to more Celine than the law allows.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Here's a link to Jon and Lee and the Checkmates doing "Shotgun" live in '66. Nice Robbie guitar from Larry Leishman. Jon, Larry, the bassist and the organist all went on to Rhinoceros; the drummer went with the Crazy World of Arthur Brown and Lee went to work with Bruce Cockburn (writing, session work).


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Oh my...I'm really sorry to hear about this. My condolences to the Robertsons.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Rest in Peace

I'm very sorry to hear about the passing of Mrs. Robertson. What a remarkable life. My condolences to the family.

Here in Virginia, Pete Seeger's half-brother Mike Seeger died from cancer the other day at age 75. Though not nearly as famous as Pete, Mike Seeger nonetheless left behind a remarkable musical legacy. Ten years ago he joined David Grisman and the late John Hartford for a wonderful collection called "Retrograss," bluegrass takes on popular songs including The Beatles, Chuck Berry and Bob Dylan, and I'm thankful I got to see one of the few shows they did in support of that recording.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: A very sad time for two families of the Band

Sebastian - belated condolences: the closeness of your family will help.

To the family of Ezra Titus: belated condolences.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Sebastian

Please know that many of us here are holding you and your family in our thoughts tonight. Your grandmother must have been a wonderful woman, and the beautiful memorial posted earlier honors her memory. Those of us who love your father's music know we too are beneficiaries of her light.


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Thanks

Just wanted to thank everyone for their kind words. We're on the mend and doing the best we can. We are a very close family and will miss Gran dearly.


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Little Brøther

Location: the Guestbook Archives

Subject: Condolences, Sebastian...

...and condolences to the Robertson family on their loss.


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Ari S.

Web: My link

Subject: The Band is on Rock Band.

I've never played it, but I've read that Chest Fever (a live version) is going to be in Rock Band. I think it comes out tomorrow.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: R. I. P. Rosemarie Robertson

Deepest sympathy to Robbie and his family.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Robbie's Mom

My condolences to Robbie and his family.


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Posted by:

Deb

Thanks for posting Ms. Robertson's obituary, Angelina. She sounds like someone I'd like to have known. Condolences to her family and friends.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Only her physical form is now gone.., her spirit will always live.


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Posted by:

Peter V

In my experience of bands, there was so often a mum who opened up her home, didn’t mind amplifiers and guitars being set up in her living space and provided food and beverages for the aspiring and rehearsing young musicians, and when times were hard, ended up feeding the lot of them. I can think of three wonderful examples. The Band (or rather The Hawks) obviously had this good fortune too with Robbie’s mum in their early days. RIP and condolences to the family.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thanks Sebastian for posting Robbie's "In The Blood" video (scroll down page) and for taking the time to share with us about your father. I hope your late grandmother's strength and loving spirit continues to guide all of you at this difficult time and beyond.

Btw could your grandmother's home cookin' be the inspiration for Rick's song? Maybe his own Ma's and Robbie's Ma's cookin'?

imagezulu's friend photographer Myron Zabol was so drawn to your grandmother's people that he photographed them at Brantford's Six Nations (I grew up by the Grand River myself) and published the book _People Of The Dancing Sky_". Robbie gave him permission to incorporate his lyrics with the photos. I also have a copy signed by Robbie and Myron.

I can't let go of the painted desert

I can't let go of the old way

I can't let go of the ancient ways

It's in the blood I can't let go

it's in the blood

It's in the blood I can't let go


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Posted by:

Steve

JQ, you might be right. It's hard to have a sense of humour when you're pissed off most of the time and seem to dislike everyone and everything but money, especially that "hard earned taxpayer" kind. What do they do, knock-knock jokes?.

I still think they should give the Sarah Palin, stand up comedy for lefties and words of wisdom for the right all in the same monologue a shot. Maybe they could achieve this kind of blended comedy\political rhetoric combo by having Palin telling knock-knock jokes.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Thanks S.M.

SATURDAY AUGUST 8, 2009

ROSEMARIE MYKE CHRYSLER ROBERTSON

Mother of Robbie Robertson, died August 3, 2009 of natural causes in Los Angeles, CA. At her request no service will be held. Rosemarie was born February 6, 1922 on the Six Nations Indian Reservation in Ontario, Canada. Rosemarie grew up on `the farm,' as she affectionately called the reser vation, with a colorful extended family. She knew how to make the most of what she was given in life, and she created magic, warmth and humor where it was needed. She came from a culture of storytelling, living off the land, music and art that imbued the legacy she shared and passed on as the family matriarch. These qualities had clear influences on her son Robbie's song writing. She was a warm figure to the other members of The Band: Rick Danko, Levon Helm, Garth Hudson, and Richard Manuel. In Toronto they lived with her in a house where the inviting smells of her delicious home cooking hit you before you even opened the door; one taste of Rosemarie's cooking and you knew in an instant who this enigmatic woman was. Her creations were infused with her unique character and unmatched spirit. After living in Canada for a time she moved to Los Angeles in 1976 to be with her family. Her grandchildren felt lucky to have her close, and she gave them a strong sense of pride and family, and spoiled them at every opportunity with homemade treats. She also dedicated herself to volunteer work with Wise Senior Services, among many other organizations, which earned her many awards and accolades. She is survived by her son Robbie Robertson, Dominique Robertson, mother to Grandchildren, Alexandra Robertson, Delphine Robertson and Sebastian Robertson, and great grandchildren Donovan Robertson and Angelica Hart. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to: Six Nations Health Services, 1745 Chiefswood Rd, Ohsweken ON N0A 1M0. For questions you can contact sandeemartin@sixnations.ca


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Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: Rosemarie Robertson

Condolences to RR and his family. Robbie's mother died August 3rd.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

In the linked document

0:00 - Rue Bab-El-Oued [where everything began and ended]
0:28 - Place de Chartres, [where they learned to live together long before The Young Rascals]
0:55 - Place du Gouvernement [statue of Duc D’Aumale on his standing stallion, called more prosaically “place of the horse” by the indigenous who used to have an acute sense of concepts]
…followed by Boulevard de la République, and Front de Mer [from the North Levee it’s the most beautiful place to see in the world, according to the poet]

The soundtrack song is performed by the major humorist-singer of the turn of the century (Rachid Ksentini) the text complains about the demographic explosion (déjà), and that it was bigrement tiring to go alongside European mates

Moral: it’s good to be together, in peace and free, it’s better to be independent


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Posted by:

John W.

Anyone else saw that special documentary about the Beacon Theater that aired on MSG network? It was all about the refurbishment of that theater that has been completed over the past couple of years. Naturally they had a lot of clips and interview with the Allman Brothers, who do a bunch of shows there every spring. Anyway they were talking to Warren Haynes in this first class, super deluxe back stage dressing room that he remembered was a real nasty pit before the refurbishment. But when he looked around the room, at all the brand new amenities, the only thing that caught his eye was that they now had a big framed photo of Levon on the wall. And he said that was the only best change they made to that dressing room, he said as long as that photo of Levon (playing at the Beacon) was up on that wall, he did not care about any other improvements that had been made to that dressing room! Classic!


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Posted by:

John W.

Thanks Joan for posting that link. Great to see Levon was on Dateline NBC! I did not catch it, but when I saw my Mom tonight (she had seen it) she said, aren't you the one whose favorite musical artist was always Levon Helm? I said, well, I don't know about that but he was always a big favorite of mine and especially because I hung out with him a few times. That's when she told me he was on Dateline NBC and I said oh, probably something about Woodstock, huh. She said yeah, and that he gives a free concert every Saturday night. I said Ma, it's not exactly free, but that's one of the things I always loved about Levon, that he prefers to play for the people who really appreciate him in a kind of intimate setting. And that I'm very happy that Levon is kind of on top of his game again, where he should be, getting tons of media attention and appreciation for his talents. Because I certainly remember the days when that was not the case.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Fox News and the Red Eye Show

Has anybody else seen this Red Eye comedy show on Fox? It's fantastically unfunny. I'll give the right-wing media the dumb-fucks looking for easy answers & sensationalism but center/left-of-center guys like Jon Stewart, Colbert & Bill Maher win hands-down when it comes to a sense of humor and we all know that a good sense of humor is a sign of intelligence.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Woodstock

Tonight's Dateline was an hour piece. There was a great amount about The Band and Levon.I looked for the video, but it is not posted. I assume they will post it soon. In the mean time this link brings you to the Transcript and some video.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Vinyl

A link to a piece on NBC Nightly News on the comeback of vinyl


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Ginger Baker in Exile; Bob Dylan at the North Pole

Did anyone else read the profile of 69-year-old Ginger Baker in the new issue of ROLLING STONE? It's a great piece of writing--though I hope some of Mr. Baker's bizarre behavior is exaggerated--and it makes me wonder how the short-lived Cream reunion in this century happened at all.

That's hysterical news about the Dylan Christmas record, immediately reminding me of the version of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" an old friend of mine used to do in a Dylan (circa 1966) imitation voice.


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Posted by:

Peter V

As you know better than me, TullFan, there are some great Christmas songs. The four listed for Bob aren't really among them. Now if he did Christmas Must Be Tonight, or Chris Rea's Driving Home for Christmas it would be getting interesting.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Subject: Woodstock Article

Big Woodstock piece in the Sunday NY Post I thought some of you might like to read.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Bob Dylan Christmas album

That can be so bad as to be good.That said, there are several blues based Christmas songs such as John Lee Hookers Blues for Christmas, or Fiona Apples Christmas Blues that could work quite well. If his Bobness tries to outdo Aaron Neville on Ave Maria, the windows may break however.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan Christmas Album

See report in Friday's Guardian on link. It does not sound promising to me!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sketch of Richard Manuel and his beautiful lips.

EN... All the world over, so easy to see

People everywhere just wanna be free

Listen, please listen, that's the way it should be

Peace in the valley, people got to be free

You should see, what a lovely, lovely world this would be

If everyone learned to live together

It seems to me such an easy, easy thing this would be

Why can't you and me learn to love one another

All the world over, so easy to see

People everywhere just wanna be free

I can't understand it, so simple to me

People everywhere just got to be free

Ah, ah, yeah . . . ah, ah, yeah

Bill M...Danny Weis never liked "IAGDV". Then again, he left Iron Butterfly before the record came out. But more importantly is that he's played with so many musicians and was the guitarist in Bette Midler's "The Rose" and of course on tour with Louuu baby in 1974. The first time I saw him live and only time was when I ran into you and he was playing with Richard Bell and Michael Fonfara and Danny Brooks. He's still got great hair too...so cute! ;-D


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Groovin' on a Sunday mornin'." :-D

Richard and his friends. Quite the charmer...When I was at a Jamaican airport I met a former Toronto police officer who told me a story about the Hawk and his relationship to the cops in town. LOL

Hi Abby girl! Yeah, I think 'cause we're around the same age we've had many similar experiences even though we live kilometers apart. So how was your time with Tom Wilson? ;-D


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"It's a beautiful morning." :-D

Beautiful Richard Manuel.



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Posted by:

Peter V

I never got the GB on my personal website to work, Illka. First off we just got lots of abusive messages posted from somewhere in Canada, then I tired of deleting twenty SPAM messages a day advertising Viagara (or more likely fake Viagara). So we decided to let the GB drop, and just let people e-mail us.

But in fact there are two obituaries of close friends and writing colleagues nestling in there, linked off appropriate pages. And friends or relatives googling them will be able to find them, and I've had comments about them years after they were posted by people who had just found them. So yes, I think it's appropriate and I think it is the host's call.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: Goodbye gb.

To Peter V: I've enjoyed your personal website. I wonder if you are going to post an orbitary apart from (a) family relationship, and (b) it's your call anyway, there is (c) that this person was on occasion a poster in your gb (which btw, does not seem to work!) and a friend of other posters? - It is your call, it is Jan's call and leaving this gb is my call. In that order :-)


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: pond

Subject: Abby

Heh, heh, Abby, "Well, Paul WAS dead there for a little while."


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: jh

It certainly inspired 5 men we are familiar with.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Duma Key

Hm. We're currently reading Stephen King's 2008 novel "Duma Key". The main character (Ed Freemantle) lives in a house he calls "Big Pink." The room where he paints his "magical" pictures is called "Little Pink." Has Mr. King been visiting this web site for inspiration? See link above...


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: BEG / Bab-El-Oued reminder

BEG: itchak el baz, slang expression used in Bab-El-Oued, literally meaning “the hawk is coming,” traditional alarm of the gangs anouncineg a police raid, (in the song you linked it’s transposed under the Bush-Iraki perspective

Summary of several posts I posted before

Bab-El-Oued, (literally meaning the River’s Gate) Mythical district of Algiers, one of the oldest European built areas on the African continent, following the French colonial invasion in early 19th century. Long it was the model of the working class prosperity in the colony, BabEl Oued is much more than that. Set in close contrasting neighborhoods between the muslim Casbah and the indigenous Jew quarter, a special social relationships grew, and Bab-El-Oued evolved to popular, added to the fact that the main part of the colonial settlers weren’t French, but Maltese, Minorcans, Spaniards, Italians, of very modest roots…, achieving the cultural melting-pot, and the spirit of the district which is yet of current fame. At the independence, it was the departure quay to repatriate millions of Europeans back home. After the independence, it grew even more popular, eventually the center of every and all movements of political protest which followed…”
From the BBC News, Friday 16 Nov. 2001, “…more than 700 people are now known to have died in the weekend's floods in the capital, Algiers, and the local media say the final toll could rise to more than 1,000. Hopes have faded of finding anyone alive in the mud and rubble, and rescue efforts have turned into salvage operations. Downpours last Friday and Saturday caused a mudslide that swept across several of the capital's hills, bringing down whole blocks of flats and many houses. …Angry youths have taken to the streets of Algiers over the last three days, shouting anti-government slogans, according to local reports. The government is accused of having contributed to the devastation by deliberately blocking the drains in some of the poorer areas. They did this in the early 1990s when Islamist militants used the drainage system to make their escape after carrying out assassinations and bomb attacks. Although the militants were largely forced out of the city some years ago, the drains have never been unblocked. “
Evidently, my previous post implied that GBers are naturally French speakers, sorry for the mistake

Pourquoi cette pluie (Why this rain) translation of the text of JJ-Goldman:

So much rain blew our fronts, our fields, our houses, the thunderstorm here and in this season, what is the reason?
Is it to flood our betrayals, or to wash our wounds? Is it for more fertile harvests, is it to destroy them?
Why this rain? Why, is it a message, is it a shout of the sky? I am cold my country, did you lose the beams of your sun?
Why this rain? Why, is it a benediction? Is it to punish us? I am cold my country, is it necessary the bless either the curse?
I searched in the book who knows, in the depth of his verses I read "look for answers your question has, look for the hyphen"
The beggar woman I crossed on the way, lost in the street “My sons and my husband left one morning, nobody returned”
She says: this rain you see, it’s to renew tears for the eyes of the men, for a long time they dried,
when they do not know how to cry any more, the men remember the weapons


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: BEG and Jackson Browne

Hi BEG. I too remember that Rolling Stone article. And I too was caught up in that album. Oh, the tears!!


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Posted by:

abby

Subject: 1968 too

1968 was a really eventful year too. I'd say 1968 and 1969 are just about the most memorable in my lifetime. Could be because I was 11/12 - when you really start noticing what's going on outside your own little existence. I started out with two pretty exciting years. Let's see - it was also when I first heard the Band and that wonderful brown album....and the Beatles were nearly dead - well, Paul WAS dead there for a little while. So much going on. Damn - it's been downhill ever since.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I probably told you this before as I recirculate the same stories. In the late-1980s I was at an educational conference which was being held in Rome right next to the Vatican. After a long and excellent Sunday lunch I was walking along a very narrow street with three Italian friends, when a white limo came around the corner at speed. We had to leap out of the way and were brushed by it. Being mildly inebriated I was deeply offended, and was only just stopped from raising two fingers to the departing car. The Italians pointed out breathlessly that the Pope had been sitting in the back, and the British two-fingered salute would have condemned me to the Eternal Fires. On the other hand, they speculated, had we been run over and killed, we would have had an assured straight run to heaven in compensation.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Danny Weis

BEG: I guess it's true! I see that both Richard Bell and Michael Fonfara are on Danny Weis's solo album.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

BEG: Thanks for the link, which reminds me of Bedouin Soundclash for some reason - maybe the highness and thinness of the sound, plus of course the name. Thanks also for reminding me to post about the movie "Rock Steady", which I saw at the Carlton while playing hooky 10 days ago. I didn't realise until the credits that it's a Swiss-Canadian co-production, which helps explain why longtime Torontonian Stranger Cole was the narrator and longtime Montrealer Lynn Tait arranged the music. Good also that they at least nodded in the direction of Jackie Mittoo, surely one of the most significant musicians to move here from anywhere else in the world. Will check out Wikipedia for the Danny Weis / Rascals connection, though why not - he worked with Iron Butterfly, Rhinoceros and Lou Reed?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hey Bill M...Don't forget the Greek Fest all weekend. Next weekend in Cobourg is the Barbeque Fest!.....Yeah, apparently Danny did play with The Rascals if you believe Wikipedia. So....Felix and Eddie had their huuuuge fffffff too, eh? Seems to be quite common when you have two strong personalities in a group. Sound familiar? Anyway, they did come together for the RRHOF however..... ;-D

Gnawa Diffusion mixing some dancehall reggae.

Oh, and Bill M....I really enjoyed the doc "Rocksteady". In one of my videos of Marley he really explained and demonstrated how Jamaicans would hear the music from England and then there was ska, then rocksteady and then Bob and The Wailers took it to another level with the hypnotic reggae (rebel music). Anyway, the love and passion the original rocksteady musicians shared on screen was such a delight to witness. It was a time of innocence and romanticism. Reggae evolved when it was time to stand up for your rights 'cause the jobs weren't there anymore and times were tough, tough, tough. I was in Kingston for a few days in Jamaica and it has a very different vibe from Montego Bay and Savannah Lamar, Ocho Rios and Negril. My friends took me all around the Island...but to think that at one time it was in Kingston, Jamaica for music......wow.....those were different times.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Location: for those who care
Web: My link

I posted in The Band GB several about Idir’s “Pourquoi cette pluie” as I traced naively my primary knowledge of the song, since I caught the world-wide known version, French version of the text written by Jean-Jacques Goldman (if interested, google it or read some forgotten post of mine) a poignant mourning about the 2002 flood of Bab-el-Oued (google it or read some forgotten post of mine)

I just learned that the song is in fact an ancient forgotten Berber Melody [linked], the traditional song Anda Yella (translate roughly as “There Is A Lot Of Humidity”), though it’s always question of rain, the meaning has nothing to do with the adaptation of JJ-Goldman where Rain was disaster, in the traditional song Rain means WOMEN, their fertility and generosity, it’s all in allegory, a strong tribute to females “As long as a woman is here, everyday will be life”, geez! this text gives me thrill, this song is awesome

Always take things at their origin, Empty not so that cultured Ilkka


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

I just got a note pointing out John Finley's new site (see link). The big news there is a reunion of Rhinoceros in Kitchener tonight! Appearing will be original vocalist Finley (who wrote "I Will Serenade You") and Alan Gerber (who comes from the land of Pat B but has lived for 30 years in the land of Steve) and three former Lou Reed musicians, Mike Fonfara, Danny Weis and Peter Hodgson. And I've heard that Doug Hastings (also ex Buffalo Springfield) will be flying in.

Speaking of Richard Bell, one of the very best show I've ever seen by anybody anywhere was a gospel show by Danny Brooks and the Rockin' Revalators, with Bell on organ and the above-mentioned Fonfara on piano. Plus the above-mentioned John Finley as guest vocalist singing an absolutely phenomenal version of "A Change Is Going To Come".


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Posted by:

Steve

The height of the Pope Mobile at 10 feet is no mystery. The pope stands up when giving the pope salute to the crowds. The Mobile was modified to meet the requirements of the previous pope who was ," The Proverbial 10 Foot Pole".


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Posted by:

Bill M

BEG: Three Italians and one Canuckistani. I don't think Weis was ever in the group, though I get you could say that we got him in trade for Gene. Thanks for the Rascals links - I really appreciated Felix's acceptance speech. By the way, Danelli and Cornish had a couple of '70s groups together and also produced one or two April Wine albums. Oh yes, did you know that if you listen to the original Peppermint Twist by Joey Dee and the Starlighters, that's Eddie and brother David doing the puppapuppapuppapuppas? Cornish was also in the group, if not on the record, and his place in the Peppermints was taken by Jimi Hendrix. I think Felix passed through the Peppermints as well, and long before that had been in a doo-wop group with one Neil Diamond.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and of course Part 2! Dino still has the IT factor. Felix isn't playing the Hammond anymore but he's still Felix! Another one from Syracuse University like Louuu and Garland Jeffreys and Sterling Morrison. Eddie's hair is soooo long here and he gets reved up for PGTBFreeeee!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Another one for Pat B and for Fred from Buuuuurlington (originally). Three Italians in one group....alright! I'm not one btw.

Bill M...so Danny Weiss was their guitar player at one time?

Larry...I've always appreciated Richard Bell's musicianship. He was so underused actually.....The very first time I saw him was at Rick Danko's Tribute at The Horseshoe. All the boyzzz in the audience went nuts when "Chest Fever" was performed. When I saw him at Levon's gig at Jeff Healey's I didn't even know it was Richard.......He wouldn't let me get closer to the stage to take some photos.....LOL......I only knew it was him when he joined Levon on stage. Another time was with Danny Brooks' band. I ran into Bill M here and he kindly encouraged me to approach Michael Fonfara as Garland Jeffreys' guitar player wanted me to give him a message. The last time I saw him play was with BARK at The Horseshoe. He was wearing a great pair of cargo pants. I never met him but did send something to the hospital he was at. I'm glad you were able to share time and music with Richard Bell. :-D


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Posted by:

David P.

Of course, David Geffen sold the label bearing his name long ago, reaping around a billion through the sale & stock options as buyer MCA later merged with Universal.

From the real life is stranger than fiction or a pun department: The famous comedian's son, Dick Smothers Jr., is an actor & director in the porn industry. Unlike others in his profession, he uses his real name. Who would have thunk? Just don't call him Junior.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

One of the cuts on the Pope's CD: "Ten Feet Tall and Bulletproof Mercedes."

Sorry, just couldn't help it. BTW, I saw the Popemobile in Munich and it is about 10 feet tall.

JF


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: I'm sure that with time, a decent pun involving Dick Smothers could be worked into the conversation. For now, though, put a sock in it, will ya.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Hey Larry L!! Nice to see you posting again. Did you learn that French at grandpa's knee or from Mr MacKenzie at Dunbarton?

Pat B: A Miles/Band link would be Harvey Brooks, who played with both.

BEG: Thanks for the links. It was nice to see the Maharesh Yogi filling in for Felix with the Rascals; he did a good job, and presumably is the one who gifted the audience with tambourines. And by the way, Fearing's from Vancouver originally, though he did grow up mostly in Ireland.


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Posted by:

Steve

Location: Not From Tenn.

Dlew, you've been misinformed. Geffen has convinced the pope that there is a huge market to be tapped in Latin Rap. Benny said he's got the bling in the form of gold chains and crosses and nobody could compete with his wheels. Watch for is debut CD " Benny's Dick Shone" this fall.


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Posted by:

Steve

Location: Cookeville Tn,

Subject: Great Show

I seen your show last night on our local pbs channel you where in nashville tn, it was great


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Steve

sorry buddy, faut croire que i missed my winter class - lesson learned in the summertime (when the weather is hot)


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Posted by:

dlew919

Location: excommunicado

Subject: the pope on geffen

it's an elton john covers band pope benedict's doing, apparently. He's called it benny and the jets.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: MCA Infinity

Geffen should be careful. This is what happened to MCA's Infinity label

Infinity lasted from 1977 to 1979 and was a spectacular flop, being brought down by the ill-advised release of songs and speeches by Pope John Paul II. They are said to have pressed vast quantities of the record in advance, and taken returns of a million copies.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: This just struck me as funny

Not sure why this struck me as funny, Pope Benedict has signed with Geffen Records. There is something incongruous about this.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Twisted lyrics

I just got my copy of the boot from Rick's show at Dylan's Cafe in Washington DC December 1987. The quality is very good. When Rick asks for requests, someone must have called out Acadian Driftwood. Rick only sang a few bars, but he sang "Canadian Driftwood". not Acadian. I guess we will have to pick on Celine a little less. :D


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Posted by:

Steve

Pat, China has a very broad interpretation of what threatens social order. Holding up a sign that says "Free Tibet" will get you arrested and deported if you're a foreigner and it may get you a quick execution, and organ removal if you're lucky enough to hold Chinese passport.


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Posted by:

Peter V

July 2nd - Brian Jones found dead

July 5th - Stones concert in Hyde Park

August 15th/16th- British troops move onto the streets of Northern Ireland

August 31st - Isle of Wight Festival, Dylan + Band

I looked in my old photo album. Just cheerful pictures of driving around Dorset, then holidaying in Cornwall. It never seemed momentous at the time. I guess it never does.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Summer of 69 . . .

. . . and there was no pot to be had anywhere in Mill City (it was all at Woodstock, ha-ha)


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Tom Wilson

Fans of BARK may want to check out his “Dog Years” (True North Records, 2006), featuring Colin Linden and Richard Bell, with a guest spot by Rosanne Cash, and produced by Mr Linden. Sounds a lot like a Blackies session. Only Stephen Fearing is missing.


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Posted by:

Claire

Subject: 1969

With Squeaky Fromme and Charles Manson back in the news, how many of us realize the amount of history that took place in a thirty-day period forty years ago.

July 18 -- Chappaquiddick

July 20 -- The moon landing

August 9 -- The Manson murders

August 15-18 -- Woodstock

August 17 -- Hurricane Camille, the second most intense storm ever to hit the U.S., killing 259 people.

I remember them all well but had no idea that so many momentous events were stacked on top of each other in such a short period of time.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Two The Hard Way & Other Connections

Bloated or not, on Thanksgiving night 1976 Elvis was busy with his own show in Eugene, Oregon, nearing the end of a 100 date tour.

Cher's plate was also full (excuse the pun), with 4-month old Elijah Blue and working in the studio with his father Gregg Allman on the forgettable album that would be entitled "Allman and Woman: Two The Hard Way". (The Allman Brothers Band had bitterly broken up earlier, following Mr. Allman's testimony in a drug trial involving roadie Scooter Herring.) Band connection: Georgia musician Randall Bramblett, who would later work with both Robbie & Levon, played sax on "Allman and Woman".

Another Georgia musician, bassist Emory Gordy Jr. joined Neil Diamond's band in 1971, along with fellow Atlantan, drummer Dennis St. John. A few years later Mr. Gordy left to briefly tour with Elvis, while Mr. St. John remained & would appear with Diamond at The Last Waltz. At the time of TLW, Mr. Gordy was a member of Emmylou Harris' Hot Band.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

I think Lars must have fallen out of his tree again . . .

J.F.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Taj + The Band

The other obvious choice for Taj + The Band is Ain't That A Lot Of Love. Only problem is that Taj's group did it way better than The Band did. So best avoided.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Taj Mahal + The Band … easy choice. Bacon Fat.

TLW outfits, easy again, Elvis’s was blue, Van’s was maroon. Elvis’s had space for a diaper. Van’s didn’t. They’d look great next to each other in the finale.

Lars, if you see Billy, the check for the purchase of the Isle of Wight doesn’t seem to have landed in my account just yet. I’m sure it’s on the way.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Interesting news item Pat. I'm coming close to finishing "The Waxman Report - How Congress Really Works" and if I had my dithers, I'd try to find a way to have a fair amount of some of those delusional Wall Street execs brought up on international charges and tried at the Hague for their fraudulant practices. I'm all for making as much money as one can but not at the sacrifice of the world economy or even a countires, a states, a counties or a towns. It's one thing to have a few shady dealings or ones that can be interpretted as such - it's nearly impossible not to at certain levels but to the extent that the abuse went.., it is criminal and they should pay.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: nolo contendere, in return for a full pardon

Subject: Jan's Trust Fund

I think we're all blessed to have Jan allow us access to this excellent website. While it could be argued that Jan makes nearly 600,000 Norwegian Kroner per year, it should be pointed out that the Rev Billy Sol Hargis has handled that account fot the last 13 years. As the appointed trustee of said funds, the Right Reverend has invested in a diversified portfolio for Jan's retirement. Jan now owns most of the preferred stock in the Discount House of Worship. His account also paid for the Dave Mason concert in Bethel Woods last night.

While I have no detailed knowledge of how Billy invests the money, I have reason to believe that Jan has part ownership in a thoroughbred horse, since Billy often cashes checks and goes to the track to invest it. As recently as last night he was been talking about trying to start an escort serice in China.

No worries, Jan. Billy just woke up in the next room (I heard a scream and some girl just ran down the hall with nothing but a blanket covering her) and I just asked him (yelling through the wall) how the trust fund was holding up. As he staggered by my door it looked like Billy managed to give a big thumbs up.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Once again for Pat Brennan.....'cause we both looooove this song! Oh yeah! Happy Belated Birthday to you. August 3 - The day after Garth's birthday! I still have the lovely birthday greeting you emailed back in the day.

Photographed with Levon....Both looked great!

Articulate

Tenacious debater!


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Posted by:

Pat B

jtf, Steve would have a whole new fashion world on which to comment.

Brien, I found this news piece as interesting:

BEIJING — China executed two business people for defrauding hundreds of investors out of more than $127 million, calling the scam a serious blow to social stability, state media said Thursday.

China puts to death more people than any other country, although last month a high official for the Supreme People's Court, which reviews every death sentence, said the punishment should be used more sparingly.

Though usually reserved for violent crimes, death sentences are also applied for nonviolent offenses that involve large sums of money or are seen to threaten social order.

The two were executed Wednesday.

China's highest court said the fraud had "seriously damaged the country's financial regulatory order and social stability," the official Xinhua News Agency said.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....or that Dylan dug Cher.

I do remember Ezra posting here from Florida and some posters emailed with him. I liked how he saw all Band members as his Uncles.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Elvis again

An amusing side to adding Elvis to TLW would be how his outfit would stack up with Van Morrison's!


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Posted by:

TC Davis

Location: Pennsylvania
Web: My link

Subject: Big fan

The greatest bands in the history of music, (in my opinion)...pale in comparison to THE BAND. Levon, Rick, Garth, Richard, and Robbie. You have inspired me to create music, and your songs have been the soundtrack in my life. Tommy "tc" Davis


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Well, I hear that Laurel Canyon is full of famous stars...

Levon & Rick manned the rhythm section on Neil Young's "Revolution Blues" (from "On The Beach"). The song drew inspiration, or should one say trepidation, from the paranoia induced by the murders orchestrated by Charles Manson, with whom Mr. Young had also crossed paths.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Although I've never participated in TLW add-ons before, I start vacation tomorrow so I feel expansive. How about Miles Davis? He opened for them at their request at the Hollywood Bowl, and although the boys had very little jazz in them--actually none as The Band--Miles had done some poppier stuff in the mid 70's, certainly moreso than the electro-storm from the late 60's/early 70's. Imagine him soloing on Tura Lura Lura or Further On Up The Road.

Also, has Taj Mahal been mentioned before? Opened for them on the Autumn 71 tour that resulted in ROA. They could have done an acoustic country soul thing ala Dirt Farmer.

Does everyone forget that Cher was married to Gregg Allman?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

So I'm reading the paper (The Star Ledger), having a cup of coffee with lunch and I read that Squeaky Fromme is set to be released from prison August 16th. She's 60. I ask.., why? She's mentally unstable, has shown no regret (from the article I read at least) for what she did, her reasoning for it was whacky to begin with. She then escapes prison for 2-3 days so she could be closer to Manson. Is the system gone kooky? What could a mentally unstable, former/might still be Manson follower, would be presidential assissinator have to contribute to society in a postive fashion? Maybe.., just maybe, had she admitted remorse to the whole thing and signed off on connections to Manson, one could possibly see her as having served her time - which is now over 30 years. But with none of that in her resume (from what I could surmise from 1 article), I say why burden anyone with her except for where she is right now.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Ezra/ Larry Leblanc

Sad to hear of Ezra's passing. Condolences to his family.

Larry, nice to hear from you. I would love to hear any stories you would care to share with us.


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Posted by:

Peter V

TullFan … Elvis on Mystery Train is the best TLW replacement ever suggested, and odd that it’s never been mentioned before in the numerous fantasy games we’ve had with TLW. OK, he was pretty bloated at that point. But wouldn’t it have to have been AFTER Dylan? And how would that have gone down? I’d have awarded him a complete verse on I Shall Be Released (which he had done on his own) too.

It’s funny how the poster with silly names from anonymouse.org somehow reckons that a snide comment on listening to Cher will get some kind of haw-haw agreement. I was tongue-in-cheek in suggesting her, as I assume most people knew. But considering Joni got three, and did two of them badly too, there was room to put her in for one there. A reprise of her duet with Rick Danko on Mockingbird would have gone down extremely well. And think about it. Cher sang backing on those Spector girl-group hits. That’s serious cred before she gets started. The Band didn’t consider it beneath them to play behind her in 1974 at the Geffen party. As an amusing suggestion, they could have rolled Tiny Tim on and got him to do I Got You Babe with her. That really is a joke though.


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Posted by:

Deb

Web: My link

A really fine cover of "The Weight" by Gillian Welch and David Rawlings with Old Crow Medicine Show is linked above. Apologies if it's been posted before.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: TLW

This topic is a repost but worth re-adding my previous comments. If there was one living artist in 1976 that could have replaced anyone but Bob Dylan, and rightfully so, it would have been Elvis Presley on Mystery Train.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Apart from (a) family relationship, and (b) it's Jan's call anyway, there is (c) that Ezra was on occasion a poster in the various Band GB's and a friend of other posters.

R.I.P.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro D.C.

Ilkka, I think if you've read Levon's book (and Ezra's posts here) you'd know that Ezra considered Levon as a stepdad and the other guys in THE BAND as uncles.

To the Titus family, and especially his mom: may his memory be eternal.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Ernie Banks

Ilkka, you probably should take a cab.


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Posted by:

Ilkka Jauramo

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: My previous post

Of course, my previous post was not against Titus family whom I don't know.

I wonder if Mr. Hoiberg is lost in his role as a maintainer of the website of the glorious band called The Band and the man behind their great songs. I wonder if the leading persons of the college are aware of that. In opposite to all of you I have only three and a half hours car ride to tell him that and to show concrete examples about these unsatisfactory state of things. After all, this is a Norwegian college website.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bap Kennedy

I know there are other Bap Kennedy fans here, so his new CD "Howl On" is just out, centred around the 1969 moon landings. I just ordered mine.


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Posted by:

Ilkka Jauramo

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Orbitary to Ezra Titus

To Jan Hoiberg, on the serious side Why is this orbitary in _THIS_ site?


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Empty Now's secret rock culture data base / My conspiracy theory

Remember the hi-jacked cargo ship from Finland to Algeria? After the incident IT HAS DISAPPEARED on its way to Africa!!! It is delayed for 24 hours, at least. They are waiting it in Algeria. Only we here in this gb know what it is all about. I follow the case.


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Posted by:

Steve

Good day to you again Empty. As I started to explain last winter about The Plains Of Abraham it wasn't really the definitive battle that ended French control of New France. It was a major battle that set the stage for British control of Canada but the deal wasn't sealed til the following spring.

In the winter following the battle on The Plains there were several small battles culminating in another large battle called The Battle Of Ste. Foy in mid April.

The battle actually ended on The Plains Of Abraham again this time with the French under the command of Le Chevalier de Levis defeating the British who were commanded by General Murray. This time they were in the reverse roles they had been when the first battle Of The Plains had occurred the previous fall. The French were on the Plains holding the British under siege in side Quebec City.

The victor in the battle for French Canada wouldn't be decided til May, that's when both sides were expecting the home countries to send ships with supplies and men. The first side to get up the river would be in a position to finally take control of Quebec. On May 15th the British sailed up the St. Lawrence and the war was over. The French finally surrendered.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Bad taste propaganda

Sadavid: thanks for the welcome, and for the link
^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^

Historically, the Battle of Qadisiya, like Waterloo and the Plains of Abraham, was of those ones in history which ended a state and began another. The Battle was fought during 5 days in southern Iraq in 637. A Muslim force defeated the Zoroastrian army and ended the Sassanian Empire
The defeat is sometimes symbolic of the Arab threat against the Persian identity.

For history, at the approach of the Sassanid elephants, the Muslim horses got panicky and that led to confusion in the Muslim ranks. General Saad Ibn Abi Waqas directed orders that the elephants should be overpowered by blinding them and severing their trunks. After along struggle Muslims finally succeeded in mutilating the monsters. The mutilated beasts rushed through the Sassanid ranks and made for the river. By noon no elephant was left on the battle-field

A movie was released in 1981, that means in a hurry of the upcoming Iran-Irak war, financed by the then political power in Baghdad, who, it’s not a secret, was blosom friend of Bush senior by the time. The making of the movie was entrusted to a confirmed Egyptian director, and so was the casting, Izzat Al Alayli in the role of Saad. Everything is Egyptian in a movie, except the purpose that was for Iraki mass manipulation.

I was first shocked by the time I was watching the movie by the fact that at any moment a Muslim-Zoroastrians conflict was evoked, all was transposed to Arab-Persians conflict, in perfect matching of the real-politiks of the moment, and in total contradiction with the historical context
Worse, what makes the thread worth postin’ in The Band GB, and what shocked me the most is the treatment done to the elephants, it’s maybe the only movie in the world where I saw animals harmed this way, I observed with attention afternath, the mention “No Animals Were Harmed” wasn’t included in the end credits, so the elephants were really harmed for the footage and for the First Iraki-Iran war propaganda, Salah Abou Seif used to do much better movies, the footage contains also some goofs: isn’t the tent you ses at 1:00 a US Army tent ?
Viola Shafik in her article in the Companion Encyclopedia of Middle Eastern and North African Film regards the film as an inferior work because of a weak script and poor directing.

Wasn’t Wolfgang Petersen’s Troye (2203) made for mass conditioning regarding the upcoming invasion of Irak. Entirely shot in Morocco , kinda a give of change, before every invasion-war there is a bad taste propaganda movie

Warning : in the link the pictures beginning at 3 :30 are unbearable, sensitive minds abstain. In definitive everything Celine Dion did is solid shit


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Posted by:

Peter V

Cadillac Records. The Howlin’ Wolf portrayal was only a cameo but it leapt off the screen too. Like any biopic you have to let the facts loose a little. A friend who saw it loved it, but was still mildly annoyed, just as I was, to see No Particular Place To Go before Chuck went to prison, so it’s apparently late 1950s. I was glad the cinematic Chuck did Come On, not an obvious choice, but it made the Stones link.

I wouldn’t imagine that Celine would get a share from long-established songwriters, or from covers of long-established songs. Getting a share from new ones used to be more or less standard practice for major, non-composing stars. It’s a tricky path for a star, because those that insist too vehemently usually see the quality of material declining.

Shares. A quote from Charlie Gillett

Colonel Tom Parker, took on a new protégé, Elvis Presley, and orchestrated a buyout of his contract with the Memphis-based label Sun Records by securing substantial payments not only from Presley’s new label, RCA Victor, but also from Hill and Range. Although he was not a songwriter, Presley was guaranteed half the publishers’ share of income from any Hill and Range song he recorded, plus one-third of the songwriting share. With this arrangement with Presley in place, Hill and Range was for several years able to take its pick from songs written by some of the best writers of the era, including Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman, and Otis Blackwell.

In later years, the well-established writing teams declined to submit songs to Elvis, and the Colonel & Elvis found the best new writers unco-operative. Jerry Reed refused to cut them in on Guitar Man and US Male, and Elvis insisted on doing both, against the Colonel’s wishes. And Reed had to be brought in to play guitar on the session because no one else could get the part right.



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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Ezra Titus

Deepest sympathy to Ezra's loved ones and friends.


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Posted by:

Ernie Banks

Peter M., have you heard Cher's new one?


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the turtle pond

Subject: Celine & Zachary

I'm a long time fan of Zachary Richard, and was glad to hear he released another recording, especially since there was a rendition of Acadian Driftwood on it. Wellll... I played a few minutes of the first track, hit "skip", a bit of the next, hit "skip", and so on, and so on. I found it schmaltzy. There was NO accordion. I found little that held my attention on the whole disc.When I got to Acadian Driftwood I left it on. It was like probing a cavity in your tooth with your tongue. Weird, itchy, a bit painful, but you can't stop it. As Leonard Plynth-Garnel used to say on SNL, "That was bad, TRULY bad!". I'm an old (1980's) member of Zach's "Bon Ton Social Aid & Pleasure Club", and have usually liked his stuff. Now I'm looking to give this disc away to somebody who appreciates it.


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Posted by:

Friend0

I like Gypsies Tramps & Thieves as well, but the idea of Cher performing that at The Last Waltz as a set up for Life Is A Carnival is absolute absurdity.


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Posted by:

James

Location: Vermont

Subject: Ezra Titus

Sad news about Levon's stepson in the What's New section ...


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Posted by:

Steve

Hi Larry, as has been discussed here before Robbie may have gotten the spirit of The Le Grand Derangement, it was just all the facts he screwed up. He didn't actually know much if anything outside of the fact Acadians got deported. Inspite of that it's a beautiful and moving song.

When it comes to, Celine, no one is in the middle. I've heard her sing before she could speak English and it was nails on the blackboard then and well, somethings never change.


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Posted by:

Larry LeBlanc

Location: Toronto

Subject: Richard Bell

I knew Richard Bell for over 25 years and watched him many many times and was dazzled every time by his technique. We used to go to jam sessions at his parents' house in the '60s with the Mandala, Jon & Lee & the Checkmates, Roy Kenner and Shawne Jackson. We all were in awe because his father was Dr. Lesley Bell whom was the God of choral music in Toronto. In high school most of us were in competitions under him. But Richard was somebody very special in his own right.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Muddy Cadillac

Having just seen "Cadillac Records" I think it's too bad they couldn't have followed Muddy Waters following the death of Leonard Chess. It would have been great to recreate "The Last Waltz" to end the film. Beyonce was pretty good, and I loved the depiction of Chuck Berry. It is a flawed film with some great moments, though.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The only other Band that I like performing AD would be BATRK with the late great Richard Bell. I'm always a sucker for accordion or sliiiide.

I posted this before but I like to see Richard Bell as much as possible. I think this may have been the last time he performed live?...Of course (my perceptions only)....There's also the guy next door channeling Rick and probably the mediator of the band (Colin) and the romantic and sensitive one originally from Ireland (Stephen) and the "don't mess with me persona"/cuddly bear type (Tom) formerly of Junk House.

acoustic performance @ "Let's Frolic Again" release show 4 May, 2007 Trinity-St.Paul's - Toronto


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Posted by:

LARRY LEBLANC

Location: TORONTO

Subject: LEBLANC

I am just loving Levon Helm's "Electric Dirt." Why on earth could Robbie never record and release an album as accessible as this? And yes I am an old time Band fan back to their days as Levon & the Hawks and I have intereviewed them numerous time. I've been laughing at the silliness over the Zachary Richard/Celine Dion's duet of The Band's classic "Acadian Driftwood." I have to surmise that some of those attacking Celine haven't really listened to the duet. Or their skin crawls at anything that Celine would sing. Zach is an Acadian/Cajun legend and he is delighted with the rendition that was recorded in five takes. He was quite taken aback by her spirit & vocal prowess when he worked with her last year. Frankly, I am unmoved by the critics of the Ricahrd/Dion matchup. "Acadian Driftwood" is our song and we do not need outsiders misrepresenting it or suggesting it lacks depth or sincerity with Dion participating. Robbie isn't Acadian yet he captured the sentiment and struggles of my ancestors and that has not been lost in the new versions. Je suis Acadien. Larry LeBlanc


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, I think Levon would have done it better. I just imagined my way through it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: We'd hear it from the people of the town

No, I’m sure I’ve effed and blinded before. Cher would have been great on TLW. She sang with Rick Danko for David Geffen. I can see Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves (as a duet with Rick) blending neatly into Robbie talking about carnivals, so introducing Life Is A Carnival and previewing Carny in later years. Definitely better than one or two of the duller items, first musically and very definitely visually.

I LIKE Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves anyway.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Dion without the Belmonts

Celine Dion has also worked quite a bit with producer David Foster, the former Hawk who's gone on to become a wizard in the world of pop. I guess his penchant for adding two too many chords in "Bo Diddley" worked better with Ms. Dion, who, like so many contemporary singers, also seems to favor the too much is never enough approach.


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Posted by:

Steve

Jerry, I've never seen Coulter so I'm not sure if that would be an improvement, or make her manly enough to achieve the crossover she's looking for. Maybe Palin could join FOX and do a stand-up comedy show in an attempt to up the ratings by bringing in lefties to watch. Lefties see the potential for humour every time she opens her mouth. The regular FOX viewers would watch seeing it as neo-con deep think seminars. FOX could sew up the right\left political viewership within one program. Naming the program might be tough though.

Kevin, she does pay songwriters half scale. She's and Rene are just fu&king money hungry, plain and simple. She auctioned off pieces of the hardwood floor from her Vegas Palace when her run there ended. It's all about money.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: Willie/Palin

We really did send Bill on a private jet to pick up girls.

Steve: Any truth to Palin coming back as Man Coulter?..


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: I too though the Celine and Zachary version sounded pretty good - though maybe a few more listens would have caused me to notice the annoying and unnecessary word changes. Also, your mention of Cher had me imagining Levon singing "Gypsies, Tramps And Thieves" in his best "WS Walcott Medicine Show" voice - maybe for one of the later albums when they lacked original material.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Something worht swearing about!

Kevin; Now THAT was funny!


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Posted by:

Deb

I'm looking forward to seeing the Ramble at the Ryman on Alabama Public TV tonight. Thank goodness for pledge week!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve: Celine and her management did get a bit cheeky some years back when they floated the idea of sharing in the songwriting royalty…..however, it was my understanding that they never did follow through on that……on the plus side, she has made a lot of people very wealthy and has been particularly good at working with local songwriters. Aldo Nova is an example of someone that helped produce her in the early days that she returned to and covered 4 or 5 of his compositions in recent years when any album she released was sure to sell multi-million copies. While no doubt most of us have our allegiances – rightfully – with the songwriters of this world, a superstar of her stature has enormous power in shaping someone’s financial life………Peter’s resorted to a first vulgarity in over a decade of GB writing over her contributions to Z.Richard’s cover…..It really wasn’t that bad….I had feared a complete re-working with over produced howls from the lovely Celine….not the case at all…..she destroyed an AC/DC classic once upon a time but this might just send a few thousand people looking for the original and that’s all good…….and to think that had Peter be in charge of TLW we might have had to endure Cher on film forever being part of my favorite flick….now that’s something worth swearing about….


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Posted by:

Pat B

Ari, I don't know if I'd listen to those tracks again, even if you were to consider it the last Band show. It isn't as there seems to be another keyboardist besides Garth (probably Marty Grebb) and Garth is relegated to accordian. I suppose it is the last time they all played together, but that doesn't make it any better.

The only thing the Obama birth certificate thing shows is the depths to which the right wing of American politics has descended in its effort to destroy democracy. Plain and simple.


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, I think it was so generous of W and Cheney to turn down another chance to do something heroic for their country and hand Bill the photo opt.

Joan, I heard something about some Republicans trying to manufacture evidence that Obama was born in Africa. It once again shows them up to what they do best.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Steve/ Palin

Steve, she can't run for president if she has a sex change operation. Her birth certificate wouldn't be accurate (or even extant), and we all know what's going on with Obama and that issue. :D


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: SACD

Despite Sony's abandonment of the format, SACD is not completely dead, thanks to Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab and other audiophile labels. Apparently, part of the problem involves the licensing fees for each layer on the disc -- i.e. redbook CD, SACD 2-channel stereo, and SACD multi-channel. Moblie Fidelity has not been supporting the latter surround sound option, cutting down on the costs.

Recent MFSL hybrid SACD releases have included "Music From Big Pink", Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On" & "Let's Get It On", Rickie Lee Jones' "Pirates" and the Dobbie Brothers' "Tolouse Street". In addition to the upcoming Band titles I mentioned, "The Captain and Me" & "Takin' It to the Streets" from the Doobies are on the way.

There are still some classsical SACD releases from various labels and Analogue Productions is in the midst of an extensive SACD project of classic jazz reissues.

So, if you have a SACD player, there are still some great releases out there. BTW, the up & coming Oppo digital company out of California has been making some highly-rated & affordable universal players, including a new Blu-Ray model that also supports the SACD, DVD-Audio and HDCD formats.


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Posted by:

Ari

Web: My link

Subject: Band's last performance at the Roxy with Rick Danko

Fred originally posted this. I'd download the track What A Town. After the song, Rick basically calls out to his former bandmates. Garth is already up there and Richard comes up pretty quickly, but for about 5 minutes Rick waits on Levon and Robbie (especially Robbie). At one point he says "Robbie'll be here in a sec, he's off takin` a pee."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Your Bright Baby Blues...Jackson Browne with The Eagles Live 1974 (slide guitar and steel as well!!)

He still has his lovely hair like Robbie and Louuu ;-D but boy....he continues to this day to look and sound timeless. Could it be all the hashish he smoked? LOL He also hung out with Nico back in the day when he was only a teenager as well. Dark spot...Darryl Hannah accused him of abuse.....don't know but nothing would surprise me.....


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Jackson Browne reluctantly shares who The Pretender is about....I always thought "Your Bright Baby Blues" was about his wife and the helplessness he felt at the time. His son was very young at the time....

I'm sitting down by the highway

Down by that highway side

Everybody's going somewhere

Riding just as fast as they can ride

I guess they've got a lot to do

Before they can rest assured

Their lives are justified

Pray to God for me baby

He can let me slide

'Cause I've been up and down this highway

Far as my eyes can see

No matter how fast I run

I can never seem to get away from me

No matter where I am

I can't help feeling I'm just a day away

From where I want to be

Now I'm running home baby

Like a river to the sea

Baby if you can see me

Out across this wilderness

There's just one thing

I was hoping you might guess

Baby you can free me

All in the power of your sweet tenderness

I can see it in your eyes

You've got those bright baby blues

You don't see what you've got to gain

But you don't like to lose

You watch yourself from the sidelines

Like your life is a game you don't mind playing

To keep yourself amused

I don't mean to be cruel baby

But you're looking confused

Baby if you can hear me

Turn down your radio

There's just one thing

I want you to know

When you've been near me

I've felt the love stirring in my soul

It's so hard to come by

That feeling of peace

This friend of mine said

"Close your eyes, and try a few of these"

I thought I was flying like a bird

So far above my sorrow

But when I looked down

I was standing on my knees

Now I need someone to help me

Someone to help me please

Baby if you need me

Like I know I need you

There's just one thing

I'll ask you to do

Take my hand and lead me

To the hole in your garden wall

And pull me through

I still remember being in school and finding in the library a copy of Rolling Stone when it was in newsprint form and reading about this recording. When it first came out I played it constantly and felt the grief, alienation and pain throughout this record.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Hats off to Bill Clinton, Al Gore and the Obama administration for getting those young ladies home..., nicely done.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Browne album

Empty Now: good to see you back. Here's a version of "The Pretender" from the _Soundstage_ TV program.

_The Pretender_ was made after the suicide of Browne's young wife, and I always hear the song with that in mind . . . .


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Ari, because it's a little s l o w around here these days . . .

Levon is on "voice rest" so Letterman had to be a rerun.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Steve

Serenity, just to add one more tidbit to your post on Billy Lee Riley. Billy got banned from playing at Arkansas State University twice in the late 50's under two different names.

The Dean found his show so distasteful the first time he banned him from performing at the school. Fans wanted him back so badly the convinced him to come back they following year under a different name and he did. The dean once again banned him not realizing it was Riley again.

Palin is not only getting divorced, she's going to come out of the closet then have a sex change and run for President as a man. Stay tuned.


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Posted by:

Steve

When Celine sings it's all about Celine, the songs are secondary. The fact she pays songwriters half the industry rate kinda hints at that. I'll never listen to her version. Her singing raises the hair on the back of my neck.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Bill M

Bill M: thanks for the welcome, very interesting about Mallaber


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Arcadian Driftwood

If I had never heard The Band's version and I heard this on the radio I'd probably think it was a good song. The two singers do a reasonable job but some of the corny chords at the end of the verses make me puke.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Last show

I didn't see a link, but half the links are dead and gone before you click them, and you get fed up of "URL NOT FOUND" notices.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cadillac Records

I was wrong. After a week of constant listening to Etta James, it was wildly wrong to suggest that Beyonce bettered her doing I'd Rather Go Blind and At Last on the Cadillac Records soundtrack. I finally found the Cadillac Records CD and listened to both versions many times. Etta wins hands down. But Beyonce does a brilliant "acting interpretation" (and sings lower too) of Etta's version.

What happens though, is if you play the Beyonce in 5.1 surround on DVD with the pictures, it takes no prisoners. Remove the visual enhancement, and the Etta James wins.

Has anyone else seen the film?


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Posted by:

Ari

Why don't people think it's cool that the Band's last performance ever was just posted on this site. Isn't that a big deal on this site?


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: Supper vs. Box

Pat, while it's entirely possible I have compressed the two songs together (it was a while ago, wannit?) I would swear it was the "Now, now, now" when the flashbang went off, even after watching the Supper's Ready vid. I will admit that time I was not all that familiar with what came before Selling England (which I plumb wore out). I saw them in the most gawd-awful venue - a low-roofed concrete cow palace on the Allentown, PA fairgrounds. But it was still a great show. And they did an encore. Take that, Chicago!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Pleasant? .... PLEASANT1

Peter, they sound like the Gawd Damn Chipmunks


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Posted by:

Peter V

Memory's shot … I have The Roches version of Acadian Driftwood on Endless Highway, I'd forgotten it. Just gave it a spin. Its pleasant …


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Posted by:

Peter V

I missed David's point … isn't SACD totally dead? Sony no longer support it apparently (looking at Blu-Ray) and the last time I saw SACD discs on sale they were in the 99p cut out bin. I'm amazed that Band stuff is coming out on a defunct format!


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Posted by:

Peter V

I haven't heard The Roches version … will seek it out.

Yes, I was pissed off myself that Sony Blu-Ray doesn't play Sony SACD discs. It's the reason I haven't dismissed my Pioneer DVD player (that plays SACD / DVD-Audio) in favour of Blu-Ray. Yet another case of Sony shooting itself in the foot. The best was the Columbia / Sony "copy protected CDs". Sony / CBS said they would not play on "some players." It turned out that "some players" meant Sony's hi-fi ES range. They played on anything else.


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Posted by:

Jack

Subject: David P

How sad for me David. I recently purchased a Blu-Ray machine. I did not know at the time that they don't play SACD; or MP3 discs etc. Great picture quality; but you lose a lot of audio options

By the way Peter, what do you think of The Roche's version of Acadian Driftwood? Well back to the film, Peter Seeger The Power of Music.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Upcoming Band reissues

Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab is scheduled to release a hybrid SACD version of "Cahoots" later this month. Additionally, they've just announced that similar versions of "Rock of Ages" and "Northern Lights - Southern Cross" are coming later this year.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Acadian Driftwood

I never like to use obscenities in a public forum, but Fuck me!

That is truly, truly awful.

They called my WORLD the land of snow? Wouldn't HOME fit better to anyone? All I can say is that at least the recording will be a genuine financial pleasure. And well-deserved too. Celine allegedly is one of the few people with true perfect pitch. What a shame it's matched with no feel for beautifully-written lyrics.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Bill, I disagree. Celine might be wondering what any Acadians who stayed behind were doing that night, and that she and Zach should go find out.


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Posted by:

Pat B

And Celine's choice of notes on her harmonies were awful.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Not at all comparable. Tommy and Bobby were clearly in the process of convincing themselves that whatever she was doing, she was doing it with someone else. Tommy was just the first to suggest they do something about it. Fortunately for Alice Long, she was still Tommy's favourite girlfriend. Or was it Bobby's?

For inappropriate behaviour while singing a sad song, it doesn't get any better than Linda Ronstadt singing "When Will I Be Loved". (By sundown would be my guess, given her apparent willingness and obvious charm.)


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Posted by:

Jack

Subject: Celine Dion

First up, I am NOT a fan of Celine Dion. I appreciate her talent. I appreciate her CD sales over the years. Friends of mine; who have seen her live tell me it would change my mind about her; if I would go and see her.

Saying that I was greatly surprised at Zachary; bringing her in on the song. I have to eat my words about Celine. She nailed it! She has such great passion in singing this Band classic. I really feel I had to departmentalize my feelings about her. She does a great job and in the end Zachary made the right choice.


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Posted by:

Pat B

At 3:46 when Celine purrs, "Let's go," I suddenly realized why she is such a revered artist. I mean who could follow such a painful lament like "What a way to ride, what a way to go" with the sexy response, "Let's go." Let's go back to Acadia? Let's go back to the flooded fields around New Orleans? Vegas?

It reminds me a bit of Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart in "I Wonder What She's Doin' Tonight": "Alright, Bobby, let's get going!"


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Posted by:

Bill M

Thank you Joan! I can now say that I have heard it, and to tell you the truth, while I won't volunteer to listen to it again, I don't mind its anti-conformist message at all. First, something of a "Where Have All The Flowers Gone?" wannabee in terms of its circular structure. Second, picking on the house-centric first verse is to take the verse out of context. I think that it really was and is useful to point out that it's a problem for any society if everyone grows up, or is trained to aspire to grow up, in the same house on the same street, wearing the same clothes, learning the same same thing at the same school so they can do the same thing for a living.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Bill M / Little Boxes

Here it is in all its original glory.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Acadian Driftwood /Celine Dion

Even getting royalties does not make up for somethings.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Actually, management did try the supergroup route with Viney, Powell and Bumbles (aka Cats in a Bag) but that flew apart pretty quick. It's down to just a duo now: maybe not friends, but respectful in a distant kind of way like Simon and Garfunkel.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: Is David V a new supergroup? ….The Welk production of TNTDODD was actually much better than many of the American Idol type takes of classic songs we see on the tube every day………great comparison though!

Acadian Driftwood: Every musician’s dream to have Celine Dion do your song……called a CDRP in the business (Celine retirement plan) ……the Richard/Dion cover is much better than I had anticipated


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joan: I don't know that I've ever heard "Little Boxes", but the lyrics were used in that "Poetry of Relevance" book I mentioned last week.

Empty N: Welcome back! Hope all's well. Gary Mallaber is from Buffalo and spent a good bit of his youth listening to and hanging out with sometime Hawks Sandy Konikoff, Stan Szelest and Rebel Paine - and watching our guys with Hawkins when possible. His long friendship with fellow-drummer Konikoff yielded (or at least contributed to) his gigs with Raven (previously Stan and the Ravens; LP on Columbia), Van Morrison (taking over from Sandy) and Tom Rush (ditto). He told me a few years ago that he hooked up with Tom Rush's group in Toronto when it was temporarily Rush-less and working on sessions with guitarist Trevor Veitch's old group-mate and friend Brent Titcomb. Then Rush returned and to record the excellent "Merrimac County" LP. (Last week I picked up Elyse Weinberg's weirdo-folk LP to which Neil Young contributes psych guitar and Titcomb contributes harmonica, as he did on a couple of Tom Rush albums.)

Apparently Monty Hall's back with a new "Let's Make a Deal". There was a thing in today's "Globe and Mail" saying that he'd picked up his pitching skills while working travelling medicine shows out of hometown Winnipeg. Who knew?

Jan F: Any word on whether or not the closing vamp on "Hey Jude" included a snatch from "The Weight"?

Jerry: Thanks for the link to TNTDODD from the Welk show. Reminds me mostly of one of those outside-the-comfort-zone production numbers from "American Idol".

David V: Do the reissues of Hammond's "Mirrors" material perpetuate the thought that the same two songs have Helm, Hudson and Robertson on them, even though a listen to the LP makes it pretty clear that our guys are on just one of the two? This suggests a tape mix-up at Vanguard, and also the existence of at least one more Hammond-Helm-Hudson-Robertson track. Or maybe it's on one of the reissues?


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: The internet criminals are scanning this site automatically!

Well, well, well... the word "offer". I put myself in a few words, didn't I. There is no good for that. What is "good" with "no good" someone would ask.


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Posted by:

Jack

Subject: Robert Smith

Enjoyed your post Robert Smith and felt someone should acknowledge that. History is always welcome.


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Posted by:

Jack

Subject: Levon on Letterman

Yes Serenity, it WAS a repeat from a few weeks ago. Dave must be on holidays this week.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Sorry. "Victim" not "offer".

Please replace "offer" with "victim" in my previous post. Actually, in Swedish language "offer" is a "victim". To avoid these incalculable incapabilities I solemny promise not to post here when sober anymore.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: By the shore of Baltic Sea

Subject: Searching for EMPTY NOW??? - GB paranoia.

British imperialism and US neo-imperialism have created the pirate problem by the East African coastline. Unfortunately the pirates-wannabes are now operating even in the Baltic Sea. Their first offer was a Finnish cargo ship sailing to Algeria with timber. They searched the ship for twelve hours and left it without taking anything at all. Swedish and Finnish authorities do not have a clue who they were and why they did it. - My theory is that they were looking for EMPTY NOW's secret rock culture database.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Background Vocal Harmony

Bassmanlee : thanks for the info about Genesis, those scenic effects are actualy amazing

Hi ILKKA,

Celine AD : it’s a shame, lame music, and those cynic effects are actualy amazing

Jackson Browne’s “The Pretender” linked above
At the first listening you are caught by the opening piano-riff, played by Craig Doerge
At the second listening you have been already intrigued by the morbid beauty of the text, phrases like “Were they only fitful dreams or some weirder awakening\ I’ve been aware of the time going by, they say in the end \ its the wink of an eye” still give me the chill
Several listening later you start searching what really make the song so special knowing that many Jackson Browne were already officially tagged as so special
Is that the electric guitar captivant by moments, played by Fred Tackett, as is the drums of Jeff Porcaro and the bass of Leland Sklar all along
Pay attention, as usual the actual reason of greatness is hidden, or at least discrete.Fortuitously one might notice that the background harmony vocals are performed as un-usual as mentioned above by DAVID CROSBY and GRAHAM NASH, it’s the small detail given that one’s attention may bee drawn by the lead vocal, bearer of the meaningful text, even after the 100th listening, the difference between vocal and vocal
Regardless of the expert level of CN in the matter, rarely their vocal capabilities made use as Jackson Browne did, or maybe do they not need to be used so that they arranged the real thing by themselves in a song written by alter
Listen [linked song] the magic starts at 1:46, ”CAUGHT” , with some more tips as at 3:14, “sail out of sight”. Awesome how the harmony vocals go and come, fuse in the air, loose somewhere, meet elsewhere, come again cross the forefront lead vocal , judge by yourself

Jackson Browne: “and someone asked me ‘Who The Pretender was?,’...it's not me exactly, although sometimes people applaud for me at the moment in the song as if I am, but in truth there is a bit of the Pretender in me, but it's anybody that's sort of lost sight of some of their dreams., and is going through the motions and trying to make a stab at a certain way of life that he sees other people succeeding at. So maybe it's a lot of people of a certain generation who've embraced a very material lifestyle in place of dreams that they had that sort of disintegrated at some point."

William Ruhlmann, All Music Guide: “Employing a real producer, Jon Landau, for the first time, Browne made what sounded like a real contemporary rock record, "The Pretender," a cynical, sarcastic treatise on moneygrubbing and the shallow life of the suburbs. Primarily inner-directed, the song's defeatist tone demands rejection, but it is also a quintessential statement of its time, the post-Watergate '70s; dire as that might be, you had to admire that kind of honesty, even as it made you wince.” \ Q3 – many GBers can tell who do what in a song just by listening


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Q2 profit for BMW sump 76 per cent.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Billy Lee Riley, dies at 75

Sun Records star Billy Lee Riley dies at 75; hits included 'Flyin' Saucers Rock&Roll'

Mon Aug 3, 10:04 PM

JONESBORO, Arkansas - Billy Lee Riley, a rambunctious performer who helped develop the Sun Records sound as a studio musician for other headliners, has died. He was 75. Riley's singles included "Red Hot" and "Flyin' Saucers Rock&Roll," the latter of which led him to call his band "The Little Green Men" for a time. Riley died Sunday in Jonesboro, according to Dillinger Funeral Home in Newport, which is handling arrangements. He had been suffering from colon cancer, and it had moved to his bones, his wife, Joyce, told The Commercial Appeal newspaper in Memphis, Tennessee.

"He was actually feeling better lately. So the very end was unexpected. But, he went peacefully," Joyce Riley said.

Riley was one of the early performers who recorded at Memphis' legendary Sun Records, but he was overshadowed by his cohorts, including Elvis Presley, Carl Perkins and Jerry Lee Lewis. Among many other songs, Riley and his band played on the original Sun recording of Lewis' "Great Balls of Fire."

Riley's voice at times had a cadence similar to Presley's but early on he sang with more of a growl. His voice softened in his later recordings, which focused more on blues. A 22-song compilation, "Red Hot: The Best of Billy Lee Riley," is among the records still available.

Born in the town of Pocahontas, Riley grew up in a sharecropper family in northeast Arkansas and learned guitar and harmonica from other families.

In the early 1960s, Riley took his talents to California, where he worked as a studio musician for The Beach Boys, Sammy Davis Jr. and Dean Martin. He also played bass, drums and sang.

Riley continued to perform, touring in Europe in the 1970s and 1980s to receptive rockabilly audiences. He kept performing late in life, including a June gig in Memphis with Sonny Burgess, another northeast Arkansas native and Sun performer.

CYA soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Serenity: It was a repeat. It was great though to see again.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: LEVON

Here's hoping some of you guys saw our LEVON on Dave Letterman? Wasn't a repeat. Dave said a lot of nice things about him. re:"It doesn't get any better" Nice going, Dave.

Lots of coverage of the disaster in Alberta that I posted earlier. Seems Kevin Costner was one of the lucky ones who escaped being hurt. Thank goodness for that, and all the others who were as lucky.

BRIEN Z: Thanx for the link. I happen to be a fan of our own Celine Dion. "Acadian Driftwood" wasn't all that bad if you like the singer.She's done a lot for Canada.

CYA soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Jan F.

The comments were the best part -- wow, nasty comments. Don't mess with them Celine Dion fans . . . they'll get ya for sure!

BTW, my computer crashed while it was playing.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Deb

Whew, Brien, at least I saw that before dinner. I've seen Zachary Richard a couple of times and enjoyed him. Don't know if I'll ever be able to hear him in the future without thinking about that duet. One of the folks commenting had it right -- way to ruin a great song, there Celine.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: YIKES!!

geez thanks Brien for this find : (

You know you have just bought yourself a first-class ticket for a one-way trip straight to Hades (where your punishment will be to listen to this for eternity), don't you?

: )


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

Subject: Get ready to gag

Ah.., um.., I'm not sure how to break this.., but ah..., another.., (cough)illustrious Canadian has decided to do a Band song..., ah.., um.., I feel dirty and dinner is swirling in a not so good way...,


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

bml, here's one.


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Posted by:

Pat B

bassmanlee, you are describing the end of Supper's Ready by Genesis, which was the last song-suite they did on the Selling England tour--no encore btw in Chicago. There are at least two youtubes of that tour that I recall.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

Subject: Moody Blues

I saw the Moody Blues once back in the 90's and they put on a very good show. Looking for a doobie after watching this...


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Posted by:

Serenity

Location: Ontario

Subject: Ontario humor

We love Ontario. Here's a bit of humor, or is it?

If you are from Ontario then "YOU" will understand. We've had about 4 dry days in the last 60.

A little joke...

A curious fellow died one day and found himself waiting in the long line of judgment. As he stood there he noticed that some souls were allowed to march right through the pearly gates into Heaven. Others though, were led over to Satan who threw them into the burning pit. But every so often, instead of hurling a poor soul into the fire, Satan would toss a soul off to one side into a small pile. After watching Satan do this several times, the fellow's curiosity got the best of him. So he strolled over and asked Satan what he was doing. "Excuse me, Mr. Prince of Darkness," he said. "I'm waiting in line for judgment, but I couldn't help wondering, why are you tossing those people aside instead of flinging them into the Fires of Hell with the others?" "Ah, those," Satan said with a groan. "They're all from Ontario.. They're still too wet to burn."

Well, I thought it was funny.

CYA soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: The Musical Box

Empty Now, I was lucky enough to see the classic Genesis line-up, probably on the Selling England tour, but they were still doing The Musical Box - as the encore. I suppose maybe Gabriel did wear "an old man mask" at the end of Musical Box - I thought he was just contorting his face, but I was in the back of the hall. What I vividly remember was wondering what the little aluminum cake pan was at the edge of the stage when I wandered up to check out equipment, etc. during intermission. We found out when Gabriel let loose with the final "NOW!". It was flash powder, and it let off in a blinding white light that temporarily blinded everybody in the place. When the smoke cleared, there stood Gabriel, silver lame vest and pants replacing his previously worn (and seemingly quite snug) black body suit. To this day it was the most astounding finale I've ever seen. All us stoners wandered out into the night mumbling, "how did he DO that?"


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Litttle boxes

Malvina Reynolds wrote it. It was inspired by Daly City, California. In particular, the view you get of it as you drive into San Francisco from the airport. If you know the song, you can't help but sing it when you see that sight.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Happy Holiday, Canadians

Dave has LEVON on again tonight. Didn't say if it was a repeat, but will be nice to see him again.

k.d. lang on CTV [our local, CKCO]It's on now:"Live At The Rehearsal Hall".Love this gal. Has such a beautiful voice.

NORM: All I can is WOW! Now that was a scary vid on that flip. That guy is lucky to be alive.

EMPTY NOW: So nice to hear from you again. Hope you are well.

PETER V: I think that Peter, Paul and Mary are easy listening, and smooth for your kids' ears. The tunes were nice for kids too. I wonder how Mary Travers is doing? I know she hasn't been well.

Hope all you Canadians are having a good holiday this weekend. Sun is shining here for a change.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

The Moody Blues were my first concert back in '86 with The Fixx opening. Unfortutely around that time they tried to 'stay current' and update their sound to a soul-less '80's synthesized style, making Mike Pinder sorely missed.


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Posted by:

Robert Smith

Location: Elaine, Arkansas
Web: My link

Subject: Born and lived on the same farm as Levon

I was born only 33 days before Levon, on the same farm, and just across the Alfalfa feild. Along with our sisters we played many times in that field and the hay and corn barns near by.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I saw the Moody Blues in the early 80's when they had that comeback of sorts. They were very good. Opening the show was a relative unknown at the time - Stevie Ray Vaughn


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Peter: one of my brothers is a huge fan of the Moody Blues, so maybe I should go with him to see them sometime (if it isn't too late).

I forgot to mention a solid Band connection to the Seeger birthday concert. Emmylou was there and in fine form on "The Water is Wide" with lots of help on vocals from Teddy Thompson, Rufus Wainwright and his sister, among others.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: dlew919 / Joan / when the bassline gives life to music

The best that you can do ..... dlew919, and Joan: thanks for the warm welcome

Westcoaster: thanks for the comment
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^

Linked song: Steve Miller Band, Circle Of Love

For the record:\

• On bass - Gerald Johnson - one of rock music’s most unique voices of the bass guitar, the bass line that gives life to music, “Currently touring with Dave Mason, Gerald can be seen and heard laying down his legendary sound in venues across the U.S. When one sees and hears Gerald play, there is no mistaking that his is an undeniable presence, a truly unique voice, an irresistible groove.”

On drums, percussion: Gary Mallaber - a Los Angeles session drummer, percussionist, main studio drummer for Eddie Money in most of his earlier recordings, he played on many Bruce Springsteen and Van Morrison solo albums. Some of the many other artists Mallaber has recorded with include Peter Frampton, Poco, Paul Williams, and Kermit the Frog, The Beach Boys, David Cassidy, Bonnie Raitt, Tom Rush, Bob Seger, Barbra Streisand, Warren Zevon.
Since March 7th (the State Theatre (Falls Church, Virginia) show), Gary has been standing in as temporary drummer for Dave Mason during his 2009 Tour.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: songs you shouldn't know but do

arthur with dudley moore was on tv the other day and I realised with some ... Erm ... Curiosity that I knew all the words to christopher cross's theme song (also carol bayer sager, burt bacharach and peter allen). Peter v has already confessed. What other dirty laundrry is to be aired?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just realised the connection … it's all from one Peter, Paul & Mary EP and the next single! I bought both at the time, and if asked casually since I would have said I didn't like them much. But I obviously did. I also have Go Tell It On The Mountain, Too Much of Nothing and Leaving on a Jetplane on singles. Their version of Jetplane is vastly superior to John Denver's original. How about that, Peter, Paul & Mary and John Denver expertise. It's sounding like True Confessions!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Charlie: sounds great. I’ve learned that any musician who’s successfully plied their trade for a long time is usually worth seeing (continuously … comebacks are another matter). For example, I shared a house with a Moody Blues fan in 1970 and thought it pretentious crap of the highest order, but when I saw them in concert some years ago (near the beginning of this GB, I suspect) they were brilliant … great show, excellent playing and singing, with some good tunes nestling amidst those songs. So I would have gone to see Pete Seeger if it had been reasonably local out of curiosity.

“Little Boxes” (which he didn’t write) is the one I deeply object to, because of the dreadful implied self-righteous superiority in the lyrics. I met too many people, especially on the left-wing, almost always of backgrounds with professional, high-achieving parents, who sneered at others’ aspirations. And for the inhabitants, those brightly coloured little boxes made of ticky-tacky looking all the same had another word: home. In Britain those sprawling 1950s estates with their cheap metal frame windows were seen by the people who lived there as a huge improvement on the back-to-back terraced houses with shared outside lavatories.

But I’ve lulled children to sleep at 3 a.m. many many times with Where Have All The Flowers Gone (I know all the words, it’s circular, and the drone helps). My other 3 a.m. speciality was Puff The Magic Dragon, also made famous by Peter, Paul and Mary. I was delighted when it came on the car radio and my grandson was impressed, ‘Listen! It’s grandad’s song!’ I will also take bookings for Blowing in The Wind for lulling kiddies to sleep. I don’t know why all the songs I use came from within a couple of years of each other from the folk scene of the early 60s though.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the turtle pond

Subject: Rick stuff

Love to hear the Danko stuff. Just saw Zydeco musician Terrance Simien nail "The Weight" and "It Makes No Difference" last night. Wow, felt like Rick was in the room.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Tugboat - Serenity

Serenity; I just noticed your note. The web page I tried to show, was a tug boat rolling right upside down. It happened about a week ago at the "Skookum Chuck rapids just behind the Sechelt Peninsula.

Once you are on youtube, in the search you need to put ...

tuboat flip accident at Skookum Chuck Narrows. Enter it and you won't believe what you see.

This guy brought the tug in far too fast, when the tide was running with him. As you come in, you have to make almost a 90 degree turn to left. The barge was going too fast and passes him and rolls the tug right upside down.

One of the kayakers who play in the tide there, just happened to be filming the tug coming in, and caught the whole thing on camera....... so watch it!


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Pete's 90th...and Other Survivors

The Seeger 90th birthday bash was a pretty good show: Springsteen, McGuinn and a lot of other highlights including, of course, Pete himself, still doing banjo solos at his age! It was also nice to see Bela Fleck, Tony Trishka, Dar Williams, Taj Mahal and lots of other great talents.

It was also interesting to note that three of the performers on the PBS broadcast were also survivors from the Woodstock festival 40 years ago this month: Richie Havens, Joan Baez and Arlo Guthrie--all still sounding fine. I saw Mr. Havens and Ms. Baez in concert for the first time in the last couple of years and they both still put on great concerts. Over the years I've seen a few other Woodstock Festival acts: The Band, Grateful Dead, The Who, Paul Butterfield, John Sebastian, and Crosby, Stills & Nash. I also finally caught a Joe Cocker show last summer and was not disappointed. It's pretty amazing the longevity of some of those acts--though I doubt if any will make it as long as Mr. Seeger.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Pat, a disappointing series for the Yankees and their fans. I just assume they saw 'XXX-Sox' and assumed it was those other Sox, and played accordingly. Congrats on getting Peavy.


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Rick Danko at the Roxy 1978

If you click on the link you'll be taken to a page where you can download this concert. The quality isn't so good IMHO,--the sound quality that is.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Bad storm hits Alberta, Canada

This is a biggie here in Canada. So sad to have this happen. For full article at Canadian Press, and any Canadian site will have it.

Big Valley Jamboree ends early after storm kills one, injures dozens.

CAMROSE, Alta. - Construction cranes replaced country music fans Sunday at Alberta's Big Valley Jamboree as workers cleaned up after a devastating storm that smashed into the main concert stage, killing one person and injuring as many as 75 others.

The concert bowl caved in after wild winds hit the popular annual festival in Camrose, about 100 kilometres southeast of Edmonton, around suppertime on Saturday.

Festival organizer Panhandle Productions Ltd., said two people remained in hospital in critical condition. Officials said about 21 of the dozens of people who were injured had to be taken to medical facilities for treatment. They offered no details about the one death, although Camrose police Chief Darrell Kambeitz said it was "as a result of debris coming down from the stage."

At a news conference on the site Sunday, officials made it clear that the storm struck with very little notice.

"RCMP informed us at 5:55 p.m. about unconfirmed reports that a possible tornado had touched down in the Nisku area (just south of Edmonton)," said Kambeitz.

"We had people on the stage at 5:57 p.m., and the storm struck between 5:57 p.m. and 6 p.m."

CYA soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: The Novaks

A local group, The Novaks, have finally released their second CD with help from Ian MacLagan (ex-Faces). The drummer, Elliot Dicks, dropped by for our annual Blues Night at the Lodge. What has tradionally been an acoustic show became much more than that. The gendarmes turned up at midnight in response to a complaint from some neighbours. They stayed til the last amen. The corporal traded harmonica solos with 'Hank from Kentucky'. Nobody parties like a Newfoundlander. 'Hank' ain't leavin. He bought a property down the road. Of course he don't know nothin about Newfoundland winters.

I love this life.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: The Kids Are Alright

A neighbours kid is a classical music student majoring in trumpet and voice. Occasionally he lets his hair down and plays for us common folk. Last night he was the opening act at a local folk concert. He played a thirty minute set on button accordion; jigs, reels and waltzes. He may have played 'The Road to Lindisfarne' in all three modes; he lost me somewhere along the way.

When we called him back for an encore he slipped behind the keyboard, turned the vocal mike on and gave us a Ray Price medley. Honky tonk never sounded so good. Who'd have thought he even knew of Ray Price? Remember this name: Steve Rogers. Absolutely no relation to the poor unfortunate who allowed the Rick Monday homer.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Frank Zappa & family values

My cousin is an attorney in LA. He drew up the trusts for Frank's kids. He said Frank had a very standard "ordinary" family life


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Pete...and Peter

The local PBS affiliate here is running the Pete Seeger 90th birthday concert tonight. Too bad Peter V. is all the way across that big bad Atlantic.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Don't know about the rest of you but my PBS station is playing "Ramble At The Ryman". Great stuff! Thanks to the pledge break I can sound the alarm.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Charlie, I feel the same way about the Redskins and their stadium has always been a pain to get into and out of for a concert. I don't like the Verizon Center either, but have never been to a concert at the baseball stadium (since I believe the Elton/Billy concert was the first -- I saw them in the ATL last time they toured).

J.F.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Hamilton's Festival Of Friends"

Not sure if anyone is interested in this jamboree, but it can be a lotta fun.. I was there many moons ago to see Tom Jackson,Canadian singer/actor [from "North Of 60"] It was a fun time. I have a niece who is a DJ on this radio station [10AM to 3PM] so want to promote it whenever and wherever I can.

The New Country 95.3 is proud to present the 2009 Festival of Friends - August 7-9 at Hamilton's Gage Park!

A 3 day FREE Festival powered by Hamilton Wentworth Creative Arts Inc, the 2009 version features some of the top talent around, including:

August 7 - headliners Steven Page [formally of the Barenaked Ladies], Marky Ramone's Blitzkrieg and Burlington's own Finger 11

August 8 - Canadian rock icons David Wilcox and Kim Mitchell

August 9 - Leon Redbone, and Country acts The Wilkinsons, Crystal Shawanda and The Road Hammers.

The event also offers Stage 2 on Saturday August 8 which is an Open Mic stage from 12pm-6pm, and a chance to break a Guiness World Record for the "Largest Guitar Ensemble" between 2pm-3pm.n For full event details, visit www.creativearts.on.ca today! See you at Gage Park!

CYA soon xoxo


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cadillac Records … small print

As well as being played by the "fictional" Hubert Sumlin on film, it appears the real Hubert Sumlin plays guitar on the Cadillac Records OST cover version!


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Sir Paul...and Palin [and "Drudgery"]

Jan: I saw Sir Paul's last two DC shows (indoors) but passed on the one at the football stadium last night, perhaps due to my dislike of anything vaguely related to the Washington Redskins (or pro football in general). If he'd played at Nationals Park--where Billy Joel and Elton John just played--I'd likely have been there as well. Anyway, my youngest brother called with "Michelle" playing in the background and that surprised me since I looked at the NYC setlist and didn't see it. Thanks for the news it was the only change from that song sequence. There is some good YouTube video of the NYC show, too--and likely the DC one by now.

Those Alaska rumors about the Palins remind me too much of sleazeball Matt Drudge digging up shit about the Clintons. Who cares? I do wish Frank Zappa were still around to sing "moving to Montana soon, gonna be a dental floss tycoon" in honor of the "family values" former governor, though. Frank had better family values than the Palins OR the Clintons--and certainly more intelligence and class than tabloid media types like Matt Drudge [I once boarded a plane and walked by Mr. Drudge in what was once called the "first class" section, then later e-mailed him commenting on how I see now why they don't call it that anymore].


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Posted by:

Pat B

jtf, whaddya think of the ChiSox wiping up the Bombers? After their roadtrip (1-6) I thought the Sox would fold. Ahh, baseball.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: My bad

I just realized I wrote Albert Goldman in my post about Ian Tyson. OF course it should be Grossman.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Neil Connor/ Jan F

Neil, thanks for sharing that memory. That sounds just like Rick.

Jan, what a show! It sounds like it was worth the loss of sleep.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Wow Jan. What a show I missed. Eileen gave me permission to go alone (nobody to watch the kids) but I didn't feel right about it. Pat B. : I agree with you about Palin. Although I could never vote for her on many levels, I believe her resignation disqualifies her as a quitter to the people who elected her.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Brien, the Palin camp is trying to quash this story with all their legal "might." Alaska Report seems to have broken some pretty big stories up there, but an interesting sidelight to the whole "Mayberry-ness" of it all is that one of the bloggers the Palin's are trying to silence also owns a kindergarten. And since Sarah has quit every single thing she's ever attempted--and with the first dude heading off to the north slope for an extended stay--it makes eminent sense.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Sir Paul Puts on a Show!

Paul McCartney, Fed Ex Field, Landover, MD, USA, August 1, 2009:

Set list (basically the same as NYC show except addition of Michelle/exclusion of Calico Skies). Show time: approx 2.5 hours. Because of traffic and finding "dinner" on the way home, we got in about 3 am. More later, must sleep.

1. Drive My Car

2. Jet

3. Only Mama Knows

4. Flaming Pie

5. Got To Get You Into My Life

6. Let Me Roll It / Foxy Lady

7. Highway

8. The Long and Winding Road

9. My Love

10. Blackbird

11. Here Today

12. Dance Tonight

13. Michelle

14. Mrs Vanderbilt

15. Eleanor Rigby

16. Sing the Changes

17. Band on the Run

18. Back in the U.S.S.R.

19. I'm Down

20. Something (intro with ukulele given to him by George)

21. I Got A Feeling

22. Paperback Writer

23. A Day In The Life

24. Give Peace A Chance

25. Let It Be

26. Live and Let Die

27. Hey Jude

28. Encore:

28. Day Tripper

29. Lady Madonna

30. I Saw Her Standing There

31. Encore 2:

31. Yesterday

32. Helter Skelter

33. Get Back

34. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)

35. The End

J.F.


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Posted by:

Neilconnor

Location: Winnipeg Canada
Web: My link

Subject: The Band-Memories

Back in the late 90's or really early 2000 The Band came to The Walker Theater. Great show!!! After the concert, I had the privilege of going aboard the bus with Garth. There's Rick sitting there, so I introduce myself to him and he says"here, have a Heineken Neil" as he reaches into a bucket with cold ones in it. Rick, Levon, myself and another gentleman and his wife from Wpg.(who I know) go sit in the back and enjoy the rest of the night. During our exchanges of conversations and laughs, I ask Rick for a shirt. He offers me a concert shirt. I let him know I would like one of his own. He then reaches into his personal cloths and bring out a purple T-shirt from a Ben and Jerry's One World 1994 One Heart Festival(it has Staff written on the back, which I believed Rick said they played at in New Orleans). He also mentioned that they took video footage at the festival and were thinking of incorporating it into another, possible Last Waltz type of show. It was a very memorable occasion which I thought I would share. I thought I just stumbled onto this site. However I stopped believing in coincidence awhile ago. Take care all and enjoy life.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day Garth Hudson!


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Pat - are you using Kitty Kelly again as your source material?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: [Sir Paul] "made the bus in seconds flat"

The WASHINGTON POST feature about Paul McCartney yesterday included a great story about an encounter he had on a New York City bus a couple of years ago. Sir Paul says he likes to shed his entourage when he can, going grocery shopping, bowling or to a movie with "no disguises, no bodyguards." He recalls boarding a mid-town Manhattan bus when several people stared but a lone African-American woman spoke up, loudly asking, "Is you Paul McCartney?" Sir Paul reponded, "Yeah, I am...[but] don't shout across the bus. Come and sit here!" The pair talked for several blocks before McCartney "reached his stop and melted into mid-town Manhattan."


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Posted by:

Across The Great Divide

Location: deep in forests of azure
Web: My link

Subject: The Band on SNL - Complete Show

The Band on Saturday Night Live complete set: 1. Life Is a Carnival 2. Stage Fright 3/4? The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down 4/3? Georgia On My Mind Available via torrent at: http://tiny.cc/qFFd6


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Posted by:

Pat B

Alaska Gov'nor

Divorced from reality

Moves to Montana

For those who haven't heard, the family values crowd has taken the ultimate hit, as Sarah Palin is getting divorced.

SM, thanks for the kind words but they've all been entertaining.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Subject: Jimmy Page, Jack White, and The Edge play The Weight

I just saw It Might Get Loud, and at the end of the film (the closing credits actually) Jack White and The Edge sing an impromptu version of The Weight. I won't ruin it, but it's pretty magical.

Q: You said wanting to learn everyone's secrets. What did you learn from the other musicians? Jack: Some of them, I can't tell you. They're just for me, and I would never tell them, unless a publishing house made the right offer, one day. But, some of the things are obvious in the film and you can actually see them. I like the three of us learning to play "The Weight," at the end of the film, even us just going over the chords of the song. It's not any of our songs, but just to know that these things have a genesis, and you don't just wake up in the morning and know how to play every song, or know how to write a song like that.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: CD'S - Joan

Hi Joan; I have to get the Mechanical Lisencing paper from CMRRA now and get that paper to the company that is going to produce the copies for me. I'll let you know as soon as that is done.

The lady who maintains my brothers website looks after the sale of CD'S. To order, it will be thru Lorne's website.

www.lornejones.com

Empty Now those songs and stories are pretty complicated and long and dynamic. The best of Genesis ...... for me, is like "That's All". A real catchy tune, and it was one of the few music videos I enjoyed.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Empty/ ian Tyson

Empty, it is so good to see you back here. You have been missed. I hope all is well.

Ian Tyson I heard the apartment he borrowed was Albert Goldman's

Norm, when and where can we get a copy?


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Empty Now.

Welcome back, my friend. You have been missed.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Play me my song, here it comes again

Old King Cole was a merry old soul, and a merry old soul was he…

NURSERY CRYME is the third studio album by Genesis and was recorded and released in 1971. It is also the first album to feature the lineup of Peter Gabriel, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Phil Collins, and Steve Hackett; the latter two replacing John Mayhew and Anthony Phillips, on drums and guitar respectively, in 1970. This lineup would remain consistent until Gabriel's departure in 1975.
Although not a success upon release in their homeland, Nursery Cryme became an unexpected hit in Italy, reaching number 4 in the LP charts — spurring on Genesis' European success
Although the folky feel was still retained on some songs, other tracks displayed a more aggressive and strident sound. Hackett's lead guitar playing contributed a lot to this.
Banks also contributed towards the more aggressive sound in various ways: for some time before Hackett's recruitment, Genesis had performed live as a four-piece, with Banks substituting for guitar by playing lead solos on his Hohner "Pianet" electric piano, played through a fuzz box. This technique can be heard on "The Musical Box". In addition, the band purchased their own Mellotron Mark II from King Crimson.
A further element in the band's growing sound was Rutherford's use of the stand-alone electronic bass pedal unit Dewtron "Mister Bassman".

THE MUSICAL BOX

"The Musical Box" is a story with Victorian overtones and was indeed presented as a Victorian fairy story. The song is a ten-minute epic touching on themes of death, reincarnation and lust; set in Victorian England, the story told of two small children in a country house. The young girl, Cynthia, kills the young boy, Henry, by removing his head with a croquet mallet. The lyrics of the song itself start at the moment when Cynthia discovers Henry's musical box, which played the nursery rhyme "Old King Cole" when she opens it. As this happens, Henry's soul returns in a restored body. However, Henry starts aging very quickly but retaining a child's mind and vision. The life that he will never have, and its desires, start to pass before his eyes. As Henry attempts to have Cynthia pursue his romantic desire, his nurse hears the noise and goes to the nursery to investigate. Acting on instinct, she throws the musical box at the now elderly-looking child, destroying them both. (This story can be found in the inside booklet of the Nursery Cryme album.) The album cover is also a depiction of this song and story: Cynthia, holds a croquet mallet - there is a hoop visible close by - but instead of croquet balls, there are a few heads lying on the ground.

The climax to the song concerns itself with Henry's feelings towards Cynthia, representing his lustful view of her, shown by the words 'She's a lady, she is mine!' and in the finale when Gabriel sings, 'Why don't you touch me? Touch me, NOW, NOW, NOW, NOW, NOW!'. In live performances, Peter Gabriel would wear an "old man" mask for the final verse and unzip the chest part of his black jumpsuit. Dramatic lighting would be used each time he shouted "NOW!" At the end of the song, Henry, the old man, would die.

This song includes writing contributions from former member Anthony Phillips, having been based on a 1969 demo by him and Rutherford called "F Sharp". Pieces of the song also came from material the band had written for a documentary about the painter Michael Jackson - those recordings were never released at the time but ultimately appeared on the box set Genesis: 1970-1975.
The album credits specify : written by Peter Gabriel, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Phil Collins, Steve Hackett, and Anthony Phillips

THE LYRICS:

[unsung part] :
“While Henry Hamilton-Smythe minor (8) was playing croquet with Cynthia Jane De Blaise-William (9), sweet-smiling Cynthia raised her mallet high and gracefully removed Henry's head. Two weeks later, in Henry's nursery, she discovered his treasured musical box. Eagerly she opened it and as "Old King Cole" began to play, a small spirit- figure appeared. Henry had returned - but not for long, for as he stood in the room his body began ageing rapidly, leaving a child's mind inside. A lifetime's desires surged through him. Unfortunately the attempt to persuade Cynthia Jane to fulfill his romantic desire led his nurse to the nursery to investigate the noise. Instinctively Nanny hurled the musical box at the bearded child, destroying both.”

Play me Old King Cole
That I may join with you,
All your hearts now seem so far from me
It hardly seems to matter now.

And the nurse will tell you lies
Of a kingdom beyond the skies.
But I am lost within this half-world,
It hardly seems to matter now.

Play me my song.
Here it comes again.
Play me my song. \ Here it comes again.

Just a little bit,
Just a little bit more time,
Time left to live out my life.

Play me my song.
Here it comes again.
Play me my song.
Here it comes again.

Old King Cole was a merry old soul,
And a merry old soul was he.
So he called for his pipe,
And he called for his bowl,
And he called for his fiddlers three. \ But the clock, tick-tock,
On the mantlepiece -
And I want, and I feel, and I know, and I touch,
The wall

She's a lady, she's got time,
Brush back your hair, and let me get to know your face.
She's a lady, she is mine.
Brush back your hair, and let me get to know your flesh.

I've been waiting here for so long
And all this time has passed me by
It doesn't seem to matter now
You stand there with your fixed expression
Casting doubt on all I have to say.
Why don't you touch me, touch me,
Why don't you touch me, touch me,
Touch me now, now, now, now, now...



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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the Turtle Pond

Subject: Lawrence Welk

When I left my parents' house at 21 years old, I was SO glad I'd never have to watch Lawrence Welk again! It was a fixture, on Saturday night at the "late evening for old people" hour of 7 PM. I'd get stuck watching it before I'd go out to hear some decidedly more hip music. My dad loved the wholesome looking, hairsprayed young women in crinoline, gingham or some other prom dress-looking outfit crooning treacly sweet crappy versions of old tyme and contemporary tunes for old farts. Fast forward to 1998, when I found myself working as an RN in the county nursing home. Thanks to the marvels of videotape, I had to endure seemingly endless reruns of the Welkathon, sometimes for 3 hours a night, 4-5 days a week. The only redeeming virtue was a two song appearance by none other than Clarence Gatemouth Brown. Gate was the hippest thing on that show. Talk about custom made hell! That being said, I loved the "olde country porch" version of "One Toke Over the Line" and "The Night They Crooned Old Dixie Down".


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Posted by:

Amanda

Web: My link

Subject: Charlie Y./The Wiyos/Bob Dylan Tour opening band


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