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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, November 2015


Entered at Mon Nov 30 23:12:08 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: The Who

David P, That must have been something to see the Who on their first american tour. It's pretty funny that they were opening for Herman's Hermits. Those type of odd lineups seem to have been pretty common in the 60'a as Jimi Hendrix was paired with the Monkees on his first American tour.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 22:00:06 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.30)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: It coulda been me picking up that Eclection CD in Reading had that old lady in Brighton hung on a little longer. To make matters worse, there's no sign at all here of "The Old Lady and the Van". Given her reenergised career, you'd thnk that Maggie Smith's name would have been enough to wake the distributors from their slumbers.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 21:42:58 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Who and Noone but the brave

Ben, I haven't bought any music from The Who in quite some time. They were another group that recorded several versions of "Baby Don't You Do It," which was a staple in their live shows in the early years. One later studio outtake version, featuring Leslie West on lead guitar, was included as a bonus cut on the deluxe CD reissue version of "Who's Next."

I did get to see them open for Herman's Hermits, of all people, here in Atlanta in 1967 and was completely blown away by their performance. Their equipment destruction during "My Generation," at the conclusion of their short but energetic set, stunned the teeny bopper girls in the audience there to see their heartthrob Peter Noone. I have to admit that it took a lot of guts to follow The Who onstage.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 20:41:16 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

David P, I just did some research on 'I Can See for Miles' and it appears that the version on the Who 'Singles' cd is actually a BBC version, not the single version. Sorry about that.

Have you gotten the newly released Who at Hyde Park set? I've been reading mixed reviews about it. I love the Who, but the setlist looks pretty routine, with the exception of 'Pictures of Lily'.

I really wish they would change things up a bit more and incorporate some solo Pete and Roger songs. When you add in their solo albums, they really have a large body of work to draw from, yet for the most part they play the same 15 songs night after night, year after year.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 20:04:19 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P.

Thanks Ben for the corretion. I believe there's confusion as there's the U.S. Decca single version (which I have), a U.K. Track single version, a BBC version, and the LP versions.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 19:46:22 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: I Can See For Miles

David P, I believe that the single mix of 'I Can See for Miles' was released on a Polydor Who compilation called 'The Singles' back in the 1980's. The copy that I have was made in West Germany, I believe that there's also a Japanese version.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 19:25:28 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Blonde On Blonde test pressing

Link to photo of Dylan and Richard listening to a test pressing of "Blonde On Blonde," presumably taken on tour. Note the far from audiophile portable hifi. Maybe it was a mono version, as the two speakers are sitting side by side.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 18:45:33 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Concert Stage Lighting

This morning while having my coffee, I was watching the program, Daily Planet. The feature was the band "Imagine Dragons".

The stage show, first created for them in Vegas sparked their imaginations and the creations by the lighting tecks and crew are exciting and very interesting. I used to rent stage lighting from a fellow whose business was rentals of stage sound and lighting. I was able to learn a reasonable amount about it in my time in the business.

What they do now with the technology available is really something. Instead of any pyrotechnics what they do with LED, rotating columns etc is an amazing amout of special effects.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 17:55:34 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I copy a lot of 45s onto CD too. Try it … it does sound like the 45, suggesting it’s mix and EQ rather than the medium.

Generally, in the 70s at least, most studios had a high quality monitor set up, then an “average domestic hi-fi” set up – AR18 bookshelf speakers were considered a good average benchmark and most studios had them, then a car radio mono speaker, and a mix was tried out on all three. Way back I recall a hifi magazine critiquing “Nashville Skyline” and suggesting that Dylan had finally bought himself a decent home hifi system and the album was mixed for that, and they had neglected the mono car radio speaker test. (Having said that my mind is niggling, “or was it New Morning” but I’m pretty sure it was “Nashville Skyline.”) They may be unfair to lay the blame on Bob, as it was rather a changing industry focus and assumption of stereo, including in cars. But even in the early 90s, doing music, they would run it through a ghetto blaster to check what it sounded like. With the car radio speaker, you're assuming that very quiet passages will need boosting … a major mistake even in 2015 of BBC Radio drama, which uses far too great a range for in-car listening. I find I'm continually fiddling with volume. They'll have people whispering and you turn it up, then they'll have a car crash or police siren at full volume. The BBC must have caused many accidents by broadcasting sudden car crash or siren SFX on radio at high volume. I've swerved myself!


Entered at Mon Nov 30 17:08:51 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Unique Mono Single Mixes

There are unique mono 45-single mixes that are not available elsewhere. The Buffalo Springfield single version of Neil Young's "Mr. Soul" has a different, rawer lead guitar solo than that of the mono & stereo LP versions. The Who's "I Can See For Miles" single has an overdubbed second bass line, with the drums slightly lower in the mix, than the album versions. I don't believe that either of these two have been reissued on CD.

The Band's studio mono mix of "Get Up Jake" first appeared as the B-side of the live stereo single version of "Don't Do It" from "Rock of Ages." That version, however, has been reissued on the Kingdom Come CD compilation set and as a bonus track on the out-of-print Audio Fidelity gold CD reissue of the Brown Album.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 16:56:14 CET 2015 from (67.84.78.4)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Pre -Chanukah Present.

You got to give this Chanukah present a day early. But, it's good for all eight days of gifts....See the link.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 12:53:42 CET 2015 from (70.193.133.102)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: 45 Mixes

Out of convenience and for fun I often burn CD compilations of my favorite 45-singles. Even converted to the digital format, the sound is still amazing. I remember the story about Buck Owens, who had a background in radio, used to mix his singles with Ken Nelson using small speakers, rather than large studio monitors, to get a bright sound that really stood out when played on AM radio. One other example I noticed is that my 45 copy of Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone" really has so much more punch than the mono & srereo LP counterparts. And you can't beat the James Brown 45 mono single versions on the King label for an electrifying sound.


Entered at Mon Nov 30 12:19:08 CET 2015 from (83.249.161.239)

Posted by:

NWC

'Gentle ON My Mind' of course, nothing else. When I am here again I like to tell how enjoyable it was when "International Wembley Arena Country Music Festival" - or whatever the name was - visited North European capitals in the seventies. I am glad that I had the opportunity to see them all from Boxcar Willie to Barbi Benton... yes and Glen Gampbell.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: REAL men

First LATTE here in gb and now glass of GREEN TEA GINGER ALE! - "Now I need a drink" like Dean Martin always said. BTW Because Bob Dylan has not continued in Woody Guthrie style he should have chosen Dean Martin instead of that Sinatra guy. Like singing 'Gentle Of My Mind' Dino style.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Quality Holiday Revue

New live music from Nick Lowe. Mostly a performance of his Christmas record and backed by the always shit-hot Los Straightjackets!


Entered at Mon Nov 30 00:10:34 CET 2015 from (67.84.77.48)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

When in the U.S., Canada is north, period. Two things i know about directions. Hell is down, Canada is north.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Kick Off!

Sweet Susie just brought me my big bowl of pop corn drenched in coconut oil and Himalayan salt and I got a glass of green tea ginger ale.......I'm content.....


Entered at Sun Nov 29 23:15:41 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Mike, I just thought we should keep things at a basic level for Karen - America, Europe, Asia, Africa.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Cxn

Sorry, iPad zinged me again. That should read "north of Buffalo . . . ."


Entered at Sun Nov 29 22:17:08 CET 2015 from (184.145.67.135)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Peter, the truth of the matter is that most Americans, IMHO, only know that Canada is somewhere both of Buffalo, more or less, or north of Boston, Minneapolis or Seattle. I was just giving Karen a general perspective. Plus, it has been my experience that most Britons regard Canada as part of America (which it sort of is if you consider the continental perspective).

Sorry, I used perspective twice in this post.


Entered at Sun Nov 29 21:23:32 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Karen, Seattle is in America. Mike was directing you to Canada, but you needn't worry about the difference.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Game! DAY!!!

I'm rootin' for the Red Blacks.....cause I've hated Edmonton my entire life!

I'm not sure who's crazier Kevin or Mike.......actually maybe it's me.....


Entered at Sun Nov 29 20:43:19 CET 2015 from (184.145.67.135)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Research project G14-535

Thanks, Karen. Actually, I WAS looking for a research assistant for an upcoming project. What a coincidence. As it turns out, my usual procedure is to have credentials for prospective staffers vetted by my more than capable colleague, Norm. But unfortunately, he's on his boat right now somewhere off Port Hardy, trying to calm the waters. Port Hardy? That's near the northern tip of Vancouver Island, Karen. Let's just say it's north of Seattle. But he'll be back soon. Keep in touch.


Entered at Sun Nov 29 20:40:32 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Brief Interruptions

Kevin!....It's yer day off.......I want yuh to be quiet now.


Entered at Sun Nov 29 19:10:03 CET 2015 from (24.114.56.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you, Karen.

Project: Did Robbie catch the fly? Please submit by December 20, 2015.


Entered at Sun Nov 29 19:00:28 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Eclection

John D & Bill M: One find today … a CD of Eclection,. the "Eclection" album with bonus tracks- 6 singles As and Bs and 5 x BBC Radio Sessions. On the Swedish Flawed Gems label … Flawed Gems also had Mogul Thrash with the 45 (both sides) and 5 x BBC Sessions. Both Mike Rosen of course.


Entered at Sun Nov 29 16:07:00 CET 2015 from (71.121.211.99)

Posted by:

Karen

Location: Maryland

Subject: Hello

I think you are an amazing insightful writer! I'd love to help you with research for a next project.


Entered at Sun Nov 29 15:32:22 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: In the misty morning rain …

Motown is what you play to show why 45s are still the best for the dance floor too.

Just back from Reading Record Fair (and actually driving in the misty morning rain too)… the remastered Astral Weeks on going there, Natalie Merchant Paradise Is Here coming back. Both just about twice through. The Astral Weeks bonus tracks don't add much, but the bass playing is louder, and that's got to be good. The odd addition on the alternative take is that between the engineer calling "Madame George" and Van singing Madame Joy on the main track, I'd swear he does a Madame Joyce too.


Entered at Sun Nov 29 13:33:25 CET 2015 from (70.193.133.102)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Motown Singles

It wasn't just the mono mix that gave them the punch that made them jump out, but also the way they were mastered. The bass, mid and high end levels, along with the EQ were adjusted to give the singles that hot sound that really came through on AM radio, home hifi and juke boxes.


Entered at Sun Nov 29 00:08:14 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Motown is.......The Funk Brothers

They have backed more singers, and groups than probably any one in history.


Entered at Sat Nov 28 23:22:17 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Absolutely right, John. The joy of the great year-by-year "Complete Motown Singles" box sets is they mostly use the mono mix, which is what they were originally sold on.


Entered at Sat Nov 28 22:39:17 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Motown Singles vs Albums

A journalist friend of mine interviewed a higher up person from Mowtown a few years back. It was my friends feeling that the Mowtown Singles always sounded richer and hotter than the L.P's. The person he spoke with said he was right. Mowtown always spent much more time preparing for any one singles release than an album. The album might have a hit single and a bunch of fillers. Reminds me of Sir George Martin talking about all the work he did; in preparing for a Beatles 45 and then would have some of his team work on a Beatles L.P. Sounds like it was the era of the hit single and the power of FM radio had not yet started.


Entered at Sat Nov 28 21:16:18 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: R&B Chartmakers

I've got the Complete Motown Singles CD sets, so I'd have every track (plus a couple of boxes of original Motown 45s), but the joy is having the Eps as they first appeared and how we met hem in Britain. Even more so, the Motown Chartbusters LPs running from late 60s through the 70s were recycled hits, but were SO familiar that the sequence of various artists on them is well-remebered.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Web: My link


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Posted by:

Lisa

Subject: Walk on the Wild Side

Very interesting, if rather overwrought movie, with all kinds of overtones of then quite hush-hush subjects. But the credits, with that black tomcat prowling the alleys to that sleazy, slinking music, are really outstanding.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: Baby Don't You Do It

I skipped the Black Friday Record Store Day this year. The Cutting Edge 6-CD box set has provided enough music for me for now. I do have a copy of Marvin Gaye's 1964 45-single of Baby Don't You Do It on the Tamla label. The fip side is Walk On The Wild Side, written by Mack David & Elmer Bernstein, originally performed by Brook Benton for the 1962 film by the same name.


Entered at Sat Nov 28 08:12:23 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Apparently according to amazon.co.uk this Saturday is now called "Black Friday Refreshed."

BTW, those Motown EPs were highly prized … R&B Chartmakers 1-4, and Hitsville USA. They include three Marvin Gaye classics … Hitch Hike, Can I Get A Witness and … Baby Don't Do It (for a Band connection).


Entered at Sat Nov 28 03:17:58 CET 2015 from (74.14.75.206)

Posted by:

Kevin J

There were more fistfights across the USA today in the first 5 minutes of Black Friday than in the entire glorious reign of the Broad Street Bullies...........most were about securing a better place in line for that $29 toaster at Wallmart.........though the media is reporting on an absolutely crazed Englishman who was seen throwing punches over a Motown record having a Tamla label rather than a Stateside one !


Entered at Fri Nov 27 21:56:32 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Mind you, the Early Motown Eps comes with a download code that yet again does not work. My Dylan code didn't wok and still doesn't work.


Entered at Fri Nov 27 21:44:21 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Early Motown Eps

The big Black Friday release here was a vinyl box set of the first seven Motown UK EPs. They didn't get it right … while The Miracles "Shop Around" EP was on London (right! A perfect facsimile) they put the first Little Stevie Wonder EP on "Tamla Motown." As you will all know, I'm sure, it should be on Stateside, not Tamla Motown. But seven EPs, where the originals range from £125 to £250, for about £7.50 each.


Entered at Fri Nov 27 21:30:52 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sherlock

A Christmas Special has been announced.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: House of Cards

When's the next Sherlock episode coming out?


Entered at Fri Nov 27 20:13:44 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: House of Cards

I've never seen either series. People praise it to the skies, but we have a backlog of stuff to watch and I prefer feature films on the whole. Maybe I should get a box … so UK or US version? Kevin Spacey in "Richard III" on stage is one of the best performances I've ever seen … a very fine actor.


Entered at Fri Nov 27 19:42:59 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Ovation vs Martin

I am not a very good musician, but I recall when Ovations came on the scene that folks were broadly impressed by their sound quality. It was truly original sounding, and to many, I think, an improved guitar. Glenn Campbell, as a great natural musician - maybe genius musically? - seemed to think so too. But in my experience they never matched the aesthetic and historical appeal of a Martin or old Gibson. Maybe because the purists then labeled them as plastic and not containing the fine, hand workmanship of others -


Entered at Fri Nov 27 14:47:57 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: House of Cards

Interesting that so far the input on 'House of Cards' has been from a fellow Canadian only. I am wondering if some of the UK crowd recalls watching it and what their take is (and if they can compare it as Kevin did to the Netflix USA /Spacey version).


Entered at Fri Nov 27 12:34:19 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Guitars

Rod, Good to hear from you. I am ashamed to say I've never seen one of those Morris guitars. On looking them up I see they have been around for a long while. Nice looking guitars.

I've heard about the problem you speak of, (generally with the cheaper brand of Ovation guitars called "Applause"). I see that those of yours aren't cheap.

My first Ovations I had back in the early 80's. I got rid of them because of the nuisance of having to slack the strings and change the battery inside. However my "Legend" I've had for over 20 years now and it was that way, (and they had no eq on them.)

My son who plays also took my Legend to a friend of his and had it altered. It now has the battery saddle outside so you can just slip it in and he added an eq adjuster. It is a thin line model great to play and a wonderful sound.

A few years ago I bought a pair of Addama Elite models, one 6 string and one twelve. By the way, on his Good Time Hour, Glenn Campbell was the first to ever endorse Ovation Guitars.


Entered at Fri Nov 27 12:34:26 CET 2015 from (24.224.128.101)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Robertson-Davies collaboration. Innaresting??


Entered at Fri Nov 27 06:58:57 CET 2015 from (210.86.65.181)

Posted by:

Rod

Location: NZ

Subject: Glen Campbell

I've always liked GC. The first concert I ever went to - I was 12 and we got free tickets. must have been about 72 or so. He's a bit like Johnie Cash and Neil Diamond though - a few early great songs and alot of dross that followed.

Rockin Chair, I have a Morris Tornado which came out of Japan in the early 80's. Same bowl back as the Ovations. Great guitar - though a local luthier told me that those types of guitars were all subject to body twisting - which mine has to a slight degree.


Entered at Fri Nov 27 04:10:25 CET 2015 from (74.14.75.206)

Posted by:

Kevin J

JT......I much preferred the original House of Cards and the additional parts two and three with Ian Richardson in the lead role. Season 1 of the Kevin Spacey remake was very well done but season 2 sees quite a steep drop-off......and season 3 is almost unwatchable. Unnecessarily sordid would be a main complaint........A sign of the times perhaps or just evidence of how UK and US audiences differ in how evil is defined......but a very telling plot difference between the two series is the Ian Richardson character is defined evil by being a murderer.....the writers of the Kevin Spacey character had to add a gay romp to his act to really drive home how "out there" he had become.......simple murder was not enough for the Netflix crowd it seems !


Entered at Fri Nov 27 04:06:25 CET 2015 from (67.87.217.44)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Spooky

Norm, if you can count the guitars in the man's coffin, invite me to that seance. I got some spirits I want to talk to.


Entered at Fri Nov 27 02:30:46 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Glenn Campbell - One more time

Don't know if any of you have ever chanced to see........Glenn play "Dueling Banjos" with his beautiful daughter Ashley. He plays one of his Ovation guitars, and Ashley plays banjo. Really something to see, she picks just like her Dad.

Wonder how many Ovations Glenn has. I have 3, wonderful guitars to play and the best thing is they stay in tune better than any other guitar.

I recall a sound man telling my brother at the JR Country Club in Vancouver. "I love that Ovation Legend of Norm's. It is the easiest and best guitar to "EQ" it is so clear."........If only I could have played it better.


Entered at Fri Nov 27 01:17:55 CET 2015 from (184.66.163.29)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: re: UK (House of Cards)

We finally got around to watching "House Of Cards" and are into our second season. This is the US production (Kevin Spacey etc.) It is intriguing and worth watching.

My question: There was a UK version which predated this US production. Did any of you watch it and what are opinions on it? Thanks.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 23:17:45 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'd always thought he was on Tequila too. I only found that interview today. Still … Good Vibrations, You've Lost That Loving Feeling … who needs another?


Entered at Thu Nov 26 22:35:08 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Histryonics

That's right Peter, it was before his time. I forget the guitarist's name then.....and I ain't lookin it up!

I get tired of writin all this stuff......every body has to have input anyway. There is too much information to put out on all these people.......GO LOOK IT UP ON WIKI...AL-A-YUZ!


Entered at Thu Nov 26 22:09:30 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Tequila

See this interview. Glen didn't play guitar on Tequila in 1958. He moved to California in 1960 and played it live.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 20:05:53 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Glen Campbell

Between being Glen Campbell, A Champ and Glen Campbell, he was a Folkswinger and a Beach Boy and part of the Wrecking Crew. Link to the Farewel Tour 2011 Reciew above. QUOTE:

"I loved his little joke towards the end as he strapped on a 12-string for Southern Nights: I’m the best guitar player here, and they only let me do a couple of numbers."


Entered at Thu Nov 26 19:48:37 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben Turkel

Location: New Jersey

Rockin Chair, Nice clip of Waylon Jennings. He was a great talent. One of the finest voices of his time.

I wasn't fully aware of Glenn Campbell's history. I know that he was a session musician for the Beach Boys in the mid 60's. My biggest memory of Campbell is hearing 'Rhinestone cowboy' and 'Southern Nights' on the radio about 50,000 times in the mid 70's.

My main point of reference for Ralph Emory is that he inspired the Byrds song 'Drug store trick driving man' after he was rude to them when they played the Grand Ole Opry during their country phase in 1968.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 19:26:18 CET 2015 from (24.114.68.171)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Scales, kids...an hour a day ! That peer thing that the country guys do a lot of is not for the faint of heart. Thank you, Norm. I loved that one, other than Chet being near the end but he loved to play right up to his last days...


Entered at Thu Nov 26 19:21:35 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Waylon & Glenn Campbell's good Time Hour

I forgot to mention. The series of videos I mentioned are called the "The Oprey Home Coming Shows" hosted by Ralph Emorey......I don't think I spelt that right.....anyway in this one Waylon salutes Glenn Campbell for his continued help of young upcoming stars.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 19:11:04 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: HOT LICKS PICKIN!

There are many youtube vids of all the country music stars at sessions like this one. Here Glenn Campbell shows Chet Atkins and all, (how it's really done).........don't miss this.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 18:56:38 CET 2015 from (24.114.68.171)

Posted by:

Kevin J

....and of course, before Glen Campbell was GLENN CAMPBELL , he was Glen Campbell as he is again ! What I didn't know about was John Hartford and that amazing clip of him on German tv in 1977......zenith of the disco era, massive DISCO sign in the background and he does an otherworldly stomping version of "Gentle on My Mind" .....belated thank you!


Entered at Thu Nov 26 18:18:34 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Glenn Campbell

It appears from comments now and then, many people are not aware. Before Glenn Campbell was "GLENN CAMPBELL", he was lead guitar player for "The Champs", (Tequila!) Not long was he with that band after moving to LA. He became one of the most sought after session musicians of that time. The list of people whose recordings he is credited on is far too long to print here.

I remember when he introduced John Hartford in his first appearance on Glenn's show. My brothers and I were already playing John's music. My younger brother had a vinyl of John's. (I don't remember the name of that album). It had some really interesting music on it. John had a great sense of humor. One of his songs on that album, "Don't leave your records in the sun". He could sing and play like a warped record. It was unreal.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 18:10:38 CET 2015 from (81.147.182.105)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Al Edge

Great stuff, Al. He's a good manager.

Glasgow is full of Ajax supporters today.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 18:03:32 CET 2015 from (24.114.68.171)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you, John D for that Anne Murray-Glen Campbell link. Funny how some childhood memories stick out.......I can't say I remember any specific Glen Campbell shows but I have 3 vivid memories of Glen Campbell.....1. "Galveston" playing on the radio while my mom was cooking, 2. My Dad, whenever seeing him on tv, commenting that he parted his hair on the "wrong side" and 3. Just always being knocked out by his guitar playing.....none of the tv music guys in those days seemed to focus much on playing......John's video is a good example of how Glen let it fly on occasion.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 17:49:59 CET 2015 from (73.253.168.54)

Posted by:

Dave H

"Happy Thanksgiving!" --Rick Danko


Entered at Thu Nov 26 17:21:36 CET 2015 from (77.100.108.167)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Brum UK

Subject: The lad

Al - I meant the boy - not Klopp. Though he seems a good'n too.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 17:14:05 CET 2015 from (24.114.68.171)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Liverpool FC

Al Edge........Sure am and last Saturday was the most enjoyable match I have watched since the Suarez years ( we usually get one Liverpool game a week - if a weekend game )......While in a taxi a few weeks back from Euston railway station, I explained to the driver how I came to be a fan of Liverpool......he liked the story and explained his support of Millwall and why......we had had such a good talk that I said I would keep an eye out for Millwall, as well.......he immediately said "if you get up North, don't be mentioning that"

Related, I guess to how the discussion started with the driver saying that it bothered him a lot when a local London guy got in his cab and started going on about Manchester United......There are 6 clubs in London and that should be enough for someone to have found one, he noted quite excitedly !

..............anyhow, his comments about the new Liverpool manager stood out for me......the appointment had just been made about a week before I guess but I conceded to him that I wasn't up on the guy or any of the details.....and he said "relax, he has an excellent reputation, seems very sharp and on top of all that, he has a great sense of humour.....which will serve him well in Liverpool"


Entered at Thu Nov 26 15:36:49 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: chockablock

Al, Just phoned the garage to see if my car was ready … the Dorset lad on the other end said "the roads are chocablock because of the roadworks." I think the abbreviation to "chocka" is what's Liverpool though.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 15:07:13 CET 2015 from (99.249.67.189)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: Glen Campbell Summer Show/Good Time Hour

John D-thanks for that link of Anne Murray performing with Glen Campbell. I remember him performing at the CNE Grandstand in the summer of '69 or '70, can't remember which. According to Levon, the Band were invited on the Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour to perform Up On Cripple Creek but walked out when they were required to perform it sitting on hay bales in the back of a pick-up truck or something like that.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 14:53:50 CET 2015 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Al: my prowess in German is down to having repeatedly watched episodes of Hogan's Heroes as a young lad. : )

This Klopp lad seems to know what he's doing. I say in 2 seasons Liverpool FC will once again reign supreme.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 14:19:21 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Glen Campbell Summer Show

He gave Canada's Anne Murray her first big American TV shot; on his summer show.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 13:33:11 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Hi Rog.

Yeah - seems we've landed a prize catch. And yeah - I've been really impressed both with your boss and your team!! Heartwarming stuff.

:-0)


Entered at Thu Nov 26 13:29:47 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Jurgen

Fred - your German's coming on mate!! D'you think we've finally got something right?!!

Spot on Pete. He seems to be a rare sort. Still not altogether sure why he chose to come because he could I'm sure have had most any position he wanted but I'm guessing it was the fact he saw the possibilities of revitalising a big name.

As you say I think Chocablock has been around from way back and I'm sure it was ubiquitous. As a kid I remember it mostly to do with having a flu/cold - ie I'm chocabloc with cold. Later, this would be abbreviated to "I'm 'chocca' with cold". Whether the abbreviation 'chocca' was widespread I couldn't say. These days in Liverpool the more common usage is the phrase the young lad used ie "me 'eads chocca" which is used in the sense of " me head's full/I'm stressed to feck" rather than 'confused' as you rightly say - albeit confusion may well be an accompanying factor as I'm sure we all know!!

Forgot about you being a distant Red too, Kev. Take a peek mate. It's good fun.

:-0)


Entered at Thu Nov 26 13:25:42 CET 2015 from (77.100.108.167)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: Brum UK

Subject: Jurgen

Brilliant video Al. I will show it to my 8 year old grandson. And what a nice guy - definite contender, with our Eddie, for manager of the year. And I speak as a dedicated fantasy footie manager.


Entered at Thu Nov 26 11:42:42 CET 2015 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: ich bin ein Scouser

Al: : )


Entered at Thu Nov 26 11:28:31 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jurgen

What an exceptionally charming guy! Outstandingly pleasant and a great communicator.

Al, "My head's chocka," to me that would come from "chockablock", i.e. full up. The lad suggested it was "confused" which might be about the same. It didn't seem uniquely Scouse to me (though my old writing partner worked in Liverpool for years, so I might have learned it from him).


Entered at Thu Nov 26 01:59:06 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.159)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: If Thursday can be Maundy, why shouldn't it be Black Friday if it wants?


Entered at Thu Nov 26 00:15:52 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: For Fred and Dunc [Si's probably seen it already]

I think you'll enjoy this fellas!

:-0)


Entered at Wed Nov 25 23:17:16 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Happy Thanksgiving

Today the shop signs in Southampton, UK, read "BLACK FRIDAY SALES START THURSDAY. Black Friday is a new concept here. Unknown ten years ago, internet only four years ago. Everywhere last year and this. Of course we can start our Black Friday Sales on Thursday, as the day has no significance here! Just another dull November day.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 22:03:58 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.130)

Posted by:

Bill M

Thanks David P. I think that was about the time of "Dreams Of An Everyday Housewife", which Janis Joplin reimagined as "Mercedes Benz".


Entered at Wed Nov 25 21:09:46 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Glen Campbell first hosted summer replacement show for the Smothers Brothers Goodtime Comedy Hour in 1968.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 20:54:09 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.136)

Posted by:

Bill M

While I've always liked Glen Canpbell's hit version of "Gentle on My Mind", nothing I've heard tops John Hartford. I first heard of him when he appeared on an early episode of Campbell's TV show in the '60s. Seems to me it was originally a summer replacement for Dean Martin or something.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 20:36:23 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey
Web: My link

Subject: music

Nice to see some conversation about music here for a change.

I listened to the Mavericks version of 'Gentle on my mind' and was a little underwhelmed. I'm most familiar with Glen Campbell's version. But, my favorite version would be Elvis's from the Amnerican Studio sessions in 1969.

I enjoyed the comments about Springsteen and The river. I grew up (and currently live) about 10 miles from Freehold. My first exposure to Bruce was 'Hungry heart' which came out was about 11. The first Springsteen album that I bought was 'Nebraska' which came out when I started seriously listening to music. But that was completely overshadowed when 'Born in The USA' came out 1984. That album was huge. I think there were 6 or 7 singles from that album and when each new video premiered on MTV, it was an event. I think everyone in New Jersey was issued a copy of 'Born In the USA'. I remember my gym teacher playing a tape of it on a boombox during gym class one day. I think once a gym teacher is playing an album in class, it's a safe bet that it's reached mass saturation.

The last Springsteen album that I bought was 'The Seeger Sessions' which was quite good. I don't plan on buying this River box set, but I am looking forward to watching the documentary on HBO.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 20:33:12 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Peaches also used to have those great record storage crates.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 20:29:27 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: BassmanLee - RAUL

Thanks Lee, as usual he does what he does great and in his own style.

There is another vid, he does Neil Young's "Harvest Moon" justice.

You are right about the Roy Orbison Peter. He also gets some real highs in "The Lion Sleeps".


Entered at Wed Nov 25 20:08:17 CET 2015 from (184.66.163.29)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: Peaches in Miami

I bought a lot of vinyl at Peaches in Miami when I lived in Dade in the mid-70s. I still have a lot of it. Brings back memories.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 19:08:24 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: High Fidelity

I have some good friends who used to manage Peaches record stores down in south Florida. Both Raul Malo and Brian Warner (who later became known as Marilyn Manson) worked in different Peaches stores in that area before their music careers took off.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 18:42:04 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

When I saw The Mavericks (on the suggestion of BWNWIT, I recall), Raul Malo was phenomenal. He has huge charisma in person. But to hear him at full power, Roy Orbison material is the thing.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 16:21:30 CET 2015 from (67.84.78.24)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: I bet the farm on the quinella: Hartford & Campbell, (vice versa)

Norm, here's what makes horse races.. You think Malo sings Gentle On My Mind better than anyone else and I think that he doesn't come close to either Hartford or Campbell. Aside from possessing wonderful voices & immense talent, both Campbell & Hartford sing with a natural humanity & genuineness. Yet, on the highest level of performance. But natural, easy, seemingly unstudied, & real. From inside, but natural... While Malo of course is a talented singer with a great voice, he leaves me empty. I've never felt any connection to his singing.The Mavericks got plenty of airplay years ago, & over the years in general... i was never moved or taken in by either Malo's singing, or the band's playing. I've never felt any real dynamics going on there.. Of course, a lot of people love their work.. But again, this is what makes horse races.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 15:56:58 CET 2015 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA
Web: My link

Subject: Raul Malo

Rockin' - Raul Malo could probably sing the phone book and make it shine. Thanks for the link, been listening to the Mavericks all morning. Check the link above at around 28:00 for his treatment of Ramblin' Rose.

Bob W if you are still out there send me a 'hey'. l e e (dot) d r e n d a l l (at) v e r i z o n (dot) n e t


Entered at Wed Nov 25 03:24:53 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Gentle..........Pure Gold

This, one of the original of John Hartford, shows what the song is really all about. As a busker on the street this is how John portrayed this song. NOTE! He has taps on his shoes and they are miked! Just him and his banjo.

David Powell and I have shared words about John Hartford before. Although from New York, John Hartford became a Mississippi river boat pilot. There was no one ever like him, except perhaps his predecessor Jimmy Rogers.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 02:20:47 CET 2015 from (97.127.36.113)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Web: My link

Subject: Oxford American

Peter, why don't you just subscribe? It's cheap, at least here in the USA.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 01:54:24 CET 2015 from (67.84.78.52)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Hartford & Campbell

Man o man! Listen to these guys. The writer, and the guy that made it a world wide known song. Pure unadulterated beauty.


Entered at Wed Nov 25 01:50:09 CET 2015 from (67.84.78.52)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Wih Willie Nelson's band this time

Can't get enough of Gentle On My Mind, Glenn's voice, or his guitar solos. thanks for the reminder Norm!


Entered at Wed Nov 25 01:44:57 CET 2015 from (67.84.78.52)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Jaime Hanna, son of Jeff Hanna, was possibly a member of, or at least was a touring sideman that had songwriting credits on Maverick recordings.

Here's another great version of Gentle On My Mind. This guy certainly did the song justice.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 22:09:56 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Gentle on my Mind- The Mavericks

After a 9 year break, when the Mavericks got back together, this is what they were. Raul Malo sings this classic of John Hartford's better "IMHO" than any one any where.

If you were ever a young musician hiking along a dirt road with an instrument strapped to you, or driving down a dirt road, at some time you probably whistled or hummed this tume. It's hard not to.........


Entered at Tue Nov 24 21:19:19 CET 2015 from (107.77.97.62)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Oxford #17

PV - I got mine on Saturday and have been stuck on it since. I've likely listened to one track - Raggy Levi - 20 times; very simple but irresistible to me. That normally happens with these compilations. A couple songs I recall like that are Paul Burch's Forever Yours and Syd Selvidge's cover of Tom T Hall's That's How I Got To Memphis.

I've been at these since the get-go and all of those early ones remain top notch and played all the time. I believe you can still get past editions at their web site - you're going to really like it!


Entered at Tue Nov 24 20:02:25 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Happy Thanksgiving to you Joan and to all your fellow countryfolks.

:-0)

I think with me Bob it's a case of not discovering him until The River. For whatever reason - most likely preoccupation with the kids or ailing folks - Born To Run never impacted upon me first time round.

I discovered those earlier goldmines a few years after The River.

The River in contrast hit me full square in the mush at the time of its release. Critically as you say Bob it does probably fall below the other two and perhaps Nebraska and Tunnel of Love as well. It is all over the place as well I guess but your first love never leaves you I guess.

:-0)


Entered at Tue Nov 24 19:31:16 CET 2015 from (100.2.21.114)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Thnksgiving

rWas traditionally played at Thanksgiving morning on WNEW fm violates great disc jockey Pete Fornatale. it wouldn't be Thanksgiving without this. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone


Entered at Tue Nov 24 17:25:19 CET 2015 from (69.112.112.120)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: Best Of The Best

Al, I agree with everything you and Kev are saying about album 2 of The River. I love both records. I still rank Born to Run and Darkness just a tad higher. Born to Run is where he fulfilled the promise. With Darkness he unleashed the wolves, sending all the doubters home, crying for their momma's.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 15:55:53 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Album 2 - The River

Same with me Kev. It truly does vie with Big Pink, Brown Album and Astral Weeks as my own all time stand out album. Don't get me wrong I love album 1 but 2 is just incredible in its sustained timeless quality and balance.

Point Blank,
Cadillac Ranch,
I'm A Rocker,
Fade Away,
Stolen Car,
Ramrod,
The Price You Pay,
Drive All Night,
Wreck on the Highway


Entered at Tue Nov 24 15:41:10 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

One of Skip Spence's best songs is "My Best Friend", recorded by Jefferson Airplane for the album "Surrealistic Pillow" after he'd left the group.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 15:20:02 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: Still somewhat of a mess...

I spoke too soon. I was able to hear the tracks from a file on my desktop but when I click on the songs within iTunes, it says that the track cannot be located. So its not all perfect. I do have the tracks though (all 379 listed correctly in iTunes; 379 in a mess in a file on my desktop) When I click on the desktop file for any song, it will play, but the numbering is all screwed up. So, still problems....


Entered at Tue Nov 24 14:35:27 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.28)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: alone again oar

David P: Thanks - Plant does a terrific version of "Little Hands". I guess it's because we've been discussing Love at the same time that it occurred to me that Skip Spence may have been thinking of Love's "Alone Again Or" when he decided to title his solo album "Oar".

This would be a good time to ask if there's something in the Robert Plant canon that sounds like "Chinese Song" (from the unjustly neglected "20 Granite Creek") with words. I have a vague recollection of hearing something like that on the radio years ago.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 13:54:57 CET 2015 from (24.114.77.27)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: The River

Funny how some albums stand out in the memory for certain sides or a sequence of songs......Whenever I think of The River, I immediately remember the side that starts with "Point Blank" and "Cadillac Ranch"..........same with Rock of Ages and side 2 with "Stage Fright" and "TNTDODD"


Entered at Tue Nov 24 12:24:40 CET 2015 from (70.193.139.104)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Skip Spence

Bill M: Robert Plant recorded a great cover version of "Little Hands" for the "More Oar" Skip Spence tribute CD released in 1999.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 11:39:10 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Ramrod

Cheers for that Bob. There's no words.

:-0)

But I'll give it a go.

Such great memories of the adrenaline rush this injects at a live show when the realisation that those first few ringing notes signify he's performing this incredible piece of totally underrated rock 'n' roll.

I recall in particular one concert at Old Trafford Cricket ground. I'd gone with some friends who were not fans but I'd persuaded to 'at least take a look at him live' as it were.

We were sat in the stands and I'd been itching to get down on the pitch moreorless from the start to go with the flow but none of them were reacting much to the music so I'd pretty well followed suit and sat in my seat like some restrained Anfield mainstander.

Then that incredible opening guitar riff rang out. Well, the adrenaline kicked in instantly. Before I'd even drawn breath, there I was teararsing down about 30 steps as if my life depended upon it and bounding onto that fucking pitch like some demented loon to give it the full Ramrod works cavorting about with all the other like-minded Ramrod nutjobs!

Cheers again Bob.

:-0)


Entered at Tue Nov 24 09:10:19 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Oxford American / 1966

I just put in my order for the Oxford American Music Issue, December 2015. They can post to the UK. As David P may explore further, I’ll simply say it’s “Georgia” this year … Alabama and Tennessee were superb. I never managed to get Louisiana.

On compilation albums, ACE’s latest is “Jon Savage’s 1966” a 2 CD set to accompany his book “1966 – The year the decade exploded.” I ordered both, and have started on the CD, but not the book. The combination of well-known with obscure is first rate … and yes, Love’s “7 and & 7 Is” features.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 03:35:18 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: Success

Today, I received an e-mail regarding the 18 cds/379 tracks of Cutting Edge. I am happy to report that I have been able in 1 try over 25 minutes to successfully place the 379 tracks properly organized without any further adjustments into my iTunes.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 03:12:31 CET 2015 from (65.92.195.13)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

I checked the MP3 playlist book: there's a Plant solo list, but no Skip Spence / Moby Grape songs are on it - so I've linked to Plant's version of "Skip's Song".

For the record, Robyn Hitchcock's Band top 10 is: "Caledonia Mission", TNTDODD, "Whispering Pines", Walcott, "Chest Fever", "King Harvest", IMND, "The Shape I'm In", "Don't Do It", "All La Glory" - with nice little write-ups for each.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 02:46:37 CET 2015 from (24.114.77.27)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: John D

I love these stories, John. Just the thought of being there and taking it all in....I guess you all knew it was a big time event, but who could have known it would go on to be such a celebrated film and legendary rock n roll happening.......Not many can say they were there - you can......something else.....and almost for Mike Nomad - I like that one.

......and for those that don't know, Rollie was Jeff Newsom, an excellent musician in his own right.....I should have noted that earlier.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 02:01:20 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Sorry Kevin. I got so into it, I posted too quickly. This was indeed Rollie's Story. What a week it was!!!!! I was only 29 years old.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 01:55:34 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Miyako Hotel or is it Kyoto?

Kevin. All the musicians were staying at the Miyako Hotel. Interestingly I was staying across the street at the Kyoto. Miyako Full. However spent all my time there. That hotel had never seen so many musicians wanting room service.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 01:36:37 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.166)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Protection

According to this guy. NYC may now be the safest place in the U.S. with regards to terror activity. . Of course, he forgot about attacks by air and sea. including that attack referred to as Sept 11.


Entered at Tue Nov 24 00:48:30 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.166)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Peter M., I saw Spirit was in Feb or March of 1975. At the Golden Bear, in Huntington Beach, Ca.. I was 16. I remember Randy California & Mr Skin, i tihnk he may have been but wouldn't swear Andes was on board for that show.

I did see Andes later that spring. At the Bitter End.the Bitter End didn't ever card me, my hair was down to my elbows, i looked a lot older. i saw some great shows there, underage. This was supposed to be a Chris Hillman show. Hillman had Rick Roberts & Jock Bartley in his band, & Mark Andes too. I remember Merle Bergante was Hillman's drummer on solo tours around that time.... but Hillman took sick. Firefall, though still not named, had been rehearsing, and working out all the material for the frst album at the time. So Roberts got The Bitter End to give them the dates, they flew Clarke & Burnett in.....& did a showcase. I remember when we got to the club, there was a handwritten sign on construction paper on the door stating that Hillman was ill, but Rick Roberts, Jock Bartley, Michael Clarke, Mark Andes, & Larry Burnett would be performing. the only name i didn't knwo was Burnette's, and though i loved Hillman's music, i was psyched for this. IT was Firefalls debut, and they kicked ass. We stayed for both sets, and i tihnk i went back the next night too. Those dates got them signed.. Next time i saw Andes play was again with Firefall, in 1977 in Stockton, California. (I think the last time i saw Rick Roberts perform was the 85 shows at The Lone Star.....that Gene Clark tour that The Burritos opened.Part of the night you had Ricks Danko & Roberts, Gene Clark, Blondie Chaplin, & even part of the tour, Richard Manuel singing together....)talk about voices....)

Thing you remember- i wanna say that construction paper on the bitter end door was yellow, & the magic marker was red. But wouldn't stake my life on it/


Entered at Mon Nov 23 22:49:07 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.151)

Posted by:

Bill M

An interesting day at the GB today! Thanks all.

JT: You're right that there's nothing like 7&7IS, though my favourite of their LPs is their last, a double on Blue Thumb. Wish I still had it.

Speaking of Spirit, they rated their own top 10 in that Rough Guide to MP3 Playlists I mentioned. More post Sardonicu stuff than I'd've thought possible, including a version of LARS and Jo Jo Gunne's "Run". No Moby Grape though. I guess I should check if there's a Robert Plant list, in which case there MAY be a Skip Spence cover.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 21:31:31 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

While The Band was the antithesis of so many of their California comtemporaries, there was a wonderful diversity of music styles during that era. I was exposed early on to many of those west coast groups when a guy from the San Francisco area moved into my neighborhood. We became good friends and he turned me on to all the latest music from out there that hadn't yet caught on here in Georgia. I recall going to the local record store and they had to special order a lot of those albums that they didn't yet have in stock. The following summer my friend made a trip back out west in a van and loaded up on a lot of albums, along with cases of Coors and Olympia beer which weren't available here in Georgia back then.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 21:07:40 CET 2015 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: The Weight

Yeah, somewhere, any time, someone is playing the Weight...but not my guys! For the past year or more I've been playing with a couple of guys once a week (and an occasional gig) playing music of the 50's and 60's...Elvis, Chuck, Beatles, Stones, Merseybeat stuff, Dion, Buddy Holly, etc. When I started with them, they TRIED to play The Weight. Now these guys generally do a decent job on the aforementioned material. But they had absolutely NO feel for the "ragged but right" cadence of Our Boys. Finally I (me, BIG time Band fan) had to pull the plug. Great song, guys, just not for us!


Entered at Mon Nov 23 20:45:17 CET 2015 from (108.16.242.238)

Posted by:

Peter M

Location: by the turtle pond

Subject: Spirit

Did somebody mention Spirit? I've been friends with their former bass player, Mark Andes, through his association with Ian McLagen's Bump Band. He's also played with Heart, Jo Jo Gunne, Alejandro Escovedo, Ray Wylie Hubbard, Canned Heat and Firefall. Helluva nice guy, and dead-on bass player.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 20:22:28 CET 2015 from (184.66.163.29)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: Da Capo and Forever Changes

These are the 2 Love albums I enjoy and I keep going back to them.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 19:54:02 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Love, the band

Love's third album, "Forever Changes", released in November 1967, was not a commercial success at the time. However, over the years it's now ranked on many best album lists.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 19:40:00 CET 2015 from (184.145.67.135)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Rollie's journal notes

So good to read again, Kevin. Ah . . . Jack Wingate, R.I.P. I SO should have listened to him that fateful night when he tried to persuade me to head west for that glorious event. What was I thinking? [Sniff]


Entered at Mon Nov 23 19:26:47 CET 2015 from (69.112.112.120)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Web: My link

Subject: Ramrod

Al, thank you. I love that version of Stolen Car. Have you seen this clip of Ramrod from the box? Amazing.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 18:43:53 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Love...39 years ago...bob w and Rollie

Love - the band - is an example of the best part of this GB pub. Until today, I had never heard of them.....so, thank you.

With activity low, I drifted to the archives and at November 2013 came across a great post from bob w - which reprinted a story from late great Rollie and his memories of going to TLW with Garth. Here is Rollie's story:

"...traveling from Salt Lake to S.F. in Garths's Mercedes , piloted by the one and only David Boyle. I'm 18. Dave is in his 40's? late 30's? I'm sure he doesn't know what to make of me. I sure as hell don't know what to make of him. Somewhere out in the Nevada desert he asks me if I've ever smoked pot. Not wanting to lie , but not wanting to confess to someone close to my fathers age(sort of)I suggest I may have tried it once or twice. "Good" , he says, "reach into my coat pocket". I'm catatonic until we reach Mill Valley. I do recall at one point he pulled out some canned brown bread and sardines. They disappeared quickly! Mill Valley appears thru the fog(yes both kinds!)We reach the home of a young damsel who is obviously very interested in David, but barely notices the young squire standing next to him. Off they go somewhere into the domicile, me to the couch.

Make it into SF the next day, where I check into the Miyako Hotel(or is it Kyoto? Godfrey or Donabie wanna help me here?) I'm settling in chillin out, when an older guy comes in. What kind of people is my sister hangin out with I wonder? Jack Wingate is the fellows name, long time raconteur and pal to the Band. He's beginning to get the sense he may be in charge of baby sitting me, when a rather neandrathal-ish figure strolls in with a cowboy hat, and steals Jack away. I don't know who the guy is until I see him on stage the next day. Ronnie Hawkins. Down to lunch with Garth,sis, and some other folks. Levon and Rick come strolling thru and steam is emanating from Levons head.We duck back into our lunches. Lunch over,we help Garth prepare for the big gig,ie; a trip to the hardware store!!!! Now I'm sure musicians are total screwballs!!!!!!!

Back to the Lobby of the hotel,sis and I take a breather and have a seat. In thru the front doors comes Gods messenger. Muddy Waters! with Pinetop Perkins close behind. They sit down no more than five feet from us, waiting for their bags to be brought in. At that point in my life(and to this day)there existed no greater a human being. I've since heard that when Muddy walked into a room , you could feel his presence, stateliness. To be ssure , I sat stunned, mesmerized. I forever want to go back to that moment, and hold the conversation I didn't have the nerve to discuss then. A few hrs later, I'm waiting for Bill Grahams son to bring the motor home around to the hotel to take guests down to the Winterland to check out rehearsals. I'm blown away when he shows up!! He can't be more than 12? 13? Should I get in? He can't even see over the wheel!!!!! Fuck it! I'm definitely on this bus!!! The floor of the Winterland is sparse compared to the onslaught the following evening. Scorcese and Bill Graham are getting into it......Joni Mitchell-riveting, Clapton, cookin. This is the rehearsal??? The day of the show, some photographer hands me the set list , and as a prank, tells me to call out the name of the songs before they happen.(yep, you can me hear hollering before "Ophelia" and Robbie replying "You got it" on the recording. Fascinating ,eh??" Could the photographer have been Elliot Landy?

Get down to the Winterland early.5:30ish ---Everybody gets fed the full on Thanksgiving dinner. Tables cover the entire floor. Dinner over, Ballroom dancing. A boogie - woogie piano player either preceeded or followed this. Bill Graham introduces the show "Good Evening". You know the rest. Ahh, the good old days. Garth picks up the newspaper the following morning, which announces that Robertson has led the Band thru the Last Waltz, or something to that effect."Fuckin guitar players get all the credit" he mumbles in mock disgust. Down the hall we go to breakfast, when we're cut off by a haggard looking Neil Young. "How bout a little O'Canada, Garth" he says brandishing a harmonica. We wander off, with the Canadian national anthem trailing in the distance, my last remembrance of a mind blowing event."

Happy Thanksgiving


Entered at Mon Nov 23 17:36:09 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Love were a fine band. They were one among the many great bands from the 60's that didn't get the recognition they deserved. Some others that spring to mind are Spirit, Moby Grape, Soft Machine and The Pretty Things.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 16:37:39 CET 2015 from (99.168.98.255)

Posted by:

Zzzz

Location: McKinney, TX

Hey crew, hope all is well. Just passing through... looking up to see that Lars doesn't fall from a tree on me... as I 2-finger peck here. I live in Texas, the past 3 yrs now... teaching Engineering and Audio Video technology to HS youth In Forney. Anyway, been renting CDs from Plano Public Library... and I grabbed a Beau Brummels with One Too Many Mornings. They changed the chorus a wee bit but it worked in a weird 60's sort of way. I love love LOVE the Richard version on BTs. Oh well, can't escape the pull of girlfriend wanting me to set up Holiday knick knacks... so until next time: Be right on your side while I write on mine haha.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 16:27:19 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: Fuzz

Electric Prunes: Also fuzz guitar but nothing in percussion that approached '7 & 7 is'.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 15:37:00 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: Love

There is nothing in the musical lexicon that sounds remotely like 'Seven and Seven Is'. And Love's take on 'My Little Red Book' is eye-opening.

These two songs captured me when they were released and stay with me now. They are diamonds in my iTunes.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 13:03:59 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Love- Toppermost link

I'd better put the main Toppermost link to "Love" too.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 12:49:34 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Love

Very good article by David Tanner on Toppermost" on Love. The link comes from the article … Arthur Lee and Love doing "Alone Again Or" on the Jools Holland Show in 2003. Magnificent.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 12:41:06 CET 2015 from (184.145.67.135)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Jeff, thanks for that Eddie Hinton link. It's been a while since I listened to Eddie and I'm wondering why. Good to hear his stuff again.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 03:01:10 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

I loved this guys work a long time now. I'm pretty sure some of you were discussing him several months back. Since I just read this article, i'm passing it on.

Regarding The Weight, Bill M., I'd expect there's more than one band playing that song live somewhere, every night.


Entered at Mon Nov 23 00:37:52 CET 2015 from (69.112.112.120)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: The Weight

Professor Louie and The Crowmatix always encore with The Weight. Louie always has the opening act on stage taking a verse. Class act. Always.


Entered at Sun Nov 22 15:43:33 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Bernie Speaks Brooklynese. ... ..Though he moved out a long time ago, he's a typical New Yorker. It doesn't go away.


Entered at Sun Nov 22 01:41:36 CET 2015 from (65.92.195.13)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

Subject: "The Weight" lives, live

"The Weight" was played live onstage by a real group somewhere in the world today. I witnessed Johnny Wright, backed by Rob Theodore (aka Robbie Rox) on conga and backing vocals and Brian Fraser on piano, performing the sacred song at the Outrigger in Toronto's Beach neighbourhood at 16:00 EST (21:00 GMT).

Let's see if the song can be heard somewhere else tomorrow and the day after, etc. Reports from the field are encouraged.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 19:36:17 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: bootlegs

Bob F, I happen to collect and enjoy bootlegs of Dylan, The Band and other artists. I have a pretty good collection and as a fan of these recordings, I would be happy if Dylan (and The Band) simply copied some bootlegs and released them.

Some artists have already done this, such as Zappa, Graham Parker and Deep Purple.

The sound quality of bootlegs vary tremendously, some are excellent and other are lousy, but I'm happy to have a less than stellar quality copy of a worthwhile performance that would be otherwise unavailable.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 19:27:11 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Al, i hope my response to you didn't disappoint.. But, just in case you personally are one of those guys that got used to saltier ways..... I filled up the tub, poured in the bubble bath, some sea salt, & got out the plastic toy ships... Now Al: Give your head a shake man! Don't you know that you should mind your own fucking business? You must have missed what Kevin wrote that set me off!

Now, that's more like the GB humor that everyone really appreciates. I can almost hear you all laughing.

Love ya Al. And you know that. :-)


Entered at Sat Nov 21 18:44:26 CET 2015 from (24.114.77.27)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Alright, Jeff. I'm glad that things are clearer now.

Carmen..........do remember that this is Band land and some great ones have left and come back........Garth, Levon, Richard, Rick, David P, Al Edge.......hell, Al pulled a bit of an RR and left us for half a decade at one point - the renegade GB years as I recall !


Entered at Sat Nov 21 18:31:20 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Al, we cross posted. It's quite a few years now that Kevin and I get along fine 99.9% of the time. I was just keeping him in line... Had i wanted to really fuck with him, he'd be on the way to the dentist by now. I've never disclosed this, but I know people in Toronto. .....



Entered at Sat Nov 21 18:16:26 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Kevin

Kevin, Not all that long ago, but in August or September, I wrote to Norm that how one looks at words is important, because words can mean a lot of things. How some one writes words is just as important. For quite some years now I've tried to be careful to write exactly what i mean here. I know i don't succeed all the time or fully but i usually remember to attempt to do so. In a hurry, anything can happen, as with anyone.... I interpreted your post in the context of the discussion we were all having, on & off. You may want to go look at the discussion and especially the several posts prior to yours to me. Cause you did not post in a vacuum...I think the way i interpreted your post in that light is not out of line. Now that you assign a separate or less connected meaning to it, i can see what you hoped to & in my eyes failed to communicate in context.

As i hinted at a little in the beginning of this post, there's many parts to communication. Transmission & reception might cover all the other parts. But no matter what, transmission and reception are there and enormous. i don't think it unreasonable of me to now state that had you indicated a break in the discussion, or that you were on a slight tangent, or had yous started out writing,- Hey guys, help me out here, I'm getting very bummed out by the world & i need a change. Yes, we're having a discussion, but maybe you guys can humor me & we can all change the subject. Jeff , I'd like to hear one of your stories.- or something along those lines- I might have responded very differently & typed out a story.. But in context, your post seemed to indicate TO ME, that you thought it was okay for you to post politically when you wanted but everyone else should just drop it....

Although it was not the only way to interpret or respond, i do think the way i interpreted your actual post was reasonable. I went out of my way to be funny responding to how i interpreted your post. which absolutley, yes, it appeared you were writing hey Jeff, enough with the political posts. I'm tired of it. Which of course anyone can write, but should be careful how they do..And you mentioned no other name.

There's more to discuss. The musical is in development.It's only a very low level side project.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 17:50:55 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Jeff and Kev and Al the Mediator

Or interfering busy body as the case may be.

:-0)

If I can be presumptuous enough to act as mediator.

Jeff I can see why you might have possibly felt Kev was taking the piss. This Guest Book isn't the best for clear conveyance of sentiments and it's easy to take things the wrong way - but I'll 100% back up Kev that he was actually paying you a well merited compliment. Some weeks back I recall he posted a similar post praising your larger than life slices/tales of everyday Brooklyn.



Entered at Sat Nov 21 17:40:19 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Carmen on the level/Bob F and The River

Carmen - no fecking way you're leaving me and Pete M as the sole WD survivors!!

Bob - really good to see you back. Excited about The River. Put this up last month.

It was the time I first made the connection with the fella.

The Born to Run single had impacted some years earlier of course but really it had all but passed me by and he was no more than a 'name' to me.

Anyroad, on the very first play of the tape of The River it hit me like a juggernaut. The energy. The exuberance. The fun. And then all that passion, all that hurt and anger. Above all that erudite insight into the ordinary human condition and mindset which nobody has ever seemed to do quite so intuitively as Bruce and all woven into this endless array of fantastic music with ballads and doo wop and angst and rockers that actually took 50's style rock 'n' roll to new places you'd never before considered. Unreal. I hadn't heard anything remotely like it before. Haven't since. I return to it all the time. Even after 35 years!!

Like right this minute in fact.

:)

Link to probably the best live video take on Stolen Car - muscles and all!!


Entered at Sat Nov 21 17:09:10 CET 2015 from (24.114.77.27)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Jeff: Wow. My post was sincere - albeit with a touch of Britt Ekland humour. Sorry and baffled that you didn't see it that way. I've always enjoyed your slice of life observations on food and interactions with strangers on trains and so on and thought another instalment might bring some relief to most of us here. That was all is was.

Todd: I liked that memory of that bar you spent some good times in lower east side of Manhattan. I find it very helpful in times of trouble in my life to reflect back to places like that and remember the laughs and adventures.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 16:14:37 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: The music

And the music, as Peter says: I for a minute there forgot about the music. Something I keep writing about here. Our readers know about the music and you teach me. And I am a student for life! But whether politics or music or whatever (I hate that word but it may be correct in this context), keep posting and teach me. I'm your avid student.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 16:02:50 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: "Napoleon in rags"

I've been dismayed at the rancour at this GB site often, Carmen. I've shut off my input on occasion only to return when I've cooled off. The recent world troubles have brought this feeling to the fore again.

However, like others, I see that often cooler heads prevail. Anger is an impulse. Sure, it probably brings out people's true feelings more often than not. But those feelings should be tempered by an understanding that individuals can see things differently. Debate is good. Demeaning language discrediting another's point of view to make one's point only diminishes the writer or speaker and makes her/him less credible. (There are many who have ideas that are lost in the mire of verbal arrogance and often stupidity as the idea is lost in foul language and often hate fuelled by anger Gov. Christie is one example: Trump is another current example.. in that mess, maybe some good ideas but who can take him seriously).

It reminds me of the line in Dylan's opus: "You used to be so amused At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used". The context is different but the sarcasm says it all... "Go to him...." My advice for what its worth: Develop a thick skin, tolerate the negative and put it where it belongs, in the trash. Find the essence of what is good and leave the bad behind. Keep posting. Respond with measured logic and leave the swearing and put-downs to others. Deal with verbal stupidity with common sense and reason. It works!

Your readers will appreciate your input. 12 years and you've still got tons to say that I want to hear. I can't hear you if you don't talk to me. Like me, give it another shot if you are able. Sticks and stones...


Entered at Sat Nov 21 15:08:00 CET 2015 from (69.112.112.120)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: Carmen

Carmen, my political views are to the left of Bernie Sanders. That said, I would really miss your posts. There are many liberals on the GB I would banish to the wilderness before you. In fact most of them. lol. Come on, we got The River Box to talk about in a couple of weeks.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 13:41:36 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Carmen, I hope you do keep an eye on activity from time to time, and eventually start posting again. As we know, it drifts in and out of music. From other sites, I know that if ALL people do is stick to the point you get days or weeks without anything happening, then everyone drifts away. This isn’t a blog with specific comments on a topic, but as we have often said a pub bar with a sign outside with The Band on … but conversation follows its own paths.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 12:43:22 CET 2015 from (70.193.141.233)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Is there a doctor in the house?

Dr. John attended The Band's Academy of Music New Year's eve concert with his friend Doc Pomus, who also knew the guys from their days with Ronnie Hawkins.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 12:36:07 CET 2015 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: GB

Been a great run with over 12 years of posts - just not the same so signing off - if your interested in music - nothing new in the GB - Best Regards to all the true music lovers who brought great discussion over the years.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 04:42:15 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: For Kevin. Explosions, .. relief, & The Danko Shuffle all in one link .

Kevin, looking for relief?
You must really need a good laugh, cause it seems........ You must have gotten out the bubble bath and plastic toy ships and took to playing captain in the bath tub.

You gotta be joking. :-)
I've never been a tit for tat kind of guy, but that post of yours is so off the wall that i hadda laugh but then count. Since you began the Paris Bombing discussion here you've made 10 political posts. 9 -10 fully political ones, and one with three sentences at the end.. So offering directives, even saying please- Whaddya think that I'm in your bubble bath navy?. There's only room for you in that tub man..... Now since you thought it was so damn funny before, do like Norm says, & shut the fuck up. That's funny. Now lets be clear. I don't want you to stop posting, change how you post, or to shut the fuck up, but it's now accepted humor here, so lets all have a laugh.. On the count of three. Ha Ha :-) One more time. Shut the fuck up. Ha Ha

Good night Kevin :-) I'm laughing my ass off, bet you are too :-)


Entered at Sat Nov 21 04:41:56 CET 2015 from (97.127.4.158)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Web: My link

Subject: "Such a Night"

Link to Dr. John at the Last Waltz (thanks for the nudge, David).

From his autobiography, "Under a Hoodoo Moon" (which is a real hoot!), with reference to The Band: "These were cats I had known from my days on the chitlin' circuit way back when; back then, they'd been playing with Ronnie Hawkins and I was working funky little road dates in Arkansas, Louisiana, and Texas with my band."


Entered at Sat Nov 21 02:10:16 CET 2015 from (82.22.145.205)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Driving standards and Sat Navs

I guess it depends on where and when you're driving, Bill M. Earlier this week, we were driving back from the Midlands in rain that was fairly heavy with vehicles throwing up sufficient spray from the road surface for most drivers to have switched on their rear fog lights. And most drivers had dropped their speed because of the conditions but some, a minority to be fair, were driving along the outside lane faster than speed limit and, in a couple of cases, turning at high speed across several lanes of traffic to make an exit point. Then, earlier today, on the way to collect someone from our local airport, I was driving along a fairly ordinary road behind two cars driving a little below the speed limit. The road was bending gently with no clear view ahead for me, let alone the impatient maniac behind who still saw fit to roar past mine and the other two vehicles, well over the speed limit and with no idea if anything was coming in the opposite direction. Nothing was, fortunately, but the idiot didn't know that.

I don't have a SatNav but the the car I rented in the States had one built in ( so there was no need to look down at the map, as each instruction appeared on the dashboard in front of me), On a few occasions, it was of great help and got us out of tight spots in the dark on unlit and badly signposted roads. But there were moments when I cursed the voice issuing instructions. A sudden "Exit in 400 feet" uttered at the very point I should have turned off resulted in detour of several miles, as the turn indicated led me on to an Interstate with several exits closed for construction work. And, on another occasion, the SatNav knew that there was a roundabout ahead but didn't know that the road I was on went straight through the roundabout (controlled by lights) and then, having taken me off the right road, instructed me to make a U-turn when possible - not easy on a very busy road in the rush hour. A mixed blessing, I guess.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 02:06:16 CET 2015 from (174.236.35.70)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Beer and Music

Great suggestion Kevin!
Although I won't be breaking out the guitar, I did pick up some Negra Modello beer, and will enjoy a couple of those tonight. It was one of my favorite beers that I used to drink about 10 years ago at Banjo Jim's, which was a corner bar on the lower East side of Manhattan where Ollabelle used to play many informal gigs.
Good memories of those days.

Was thinking about family on my way home tonight as we've had some funerals recently, and It occurred to me that on one side of my family, both of my Great Grandparents came to the United States from England as orphans, around the turn of the century, met, married, and started a family. The other side of my family came much earlier during the Puritan migration, but I'll save some of that for another day.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 01:05:02 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: In the back of my cab

Kevin, the Black Cab expression is, “I’ve had (xxx) in the back of this cab.” And they have. I don’t think the Uber model will go in London. It certainly shouldn’t go. These guys have studied long and hard and in their exam have to know the fastest way to any address in London at various times of day. The Uber model means a guy in a car with a Sat Nav … and I think Sat Navs (GPS) are dangerous in city centres – you can watch lights and pedestrians, or the Sat Nav, but one has to go. There’s also a safety factor in cabs that look like cabs with a license plate. Also Sat Navs are SO often wrong. Mine believes I can drive down three flights of steps to get to the National Theatre. The manufacturer says “Ah, but we can’t be totally up to date.” Well, those steps were installed in the 1860s. It has no idea of London one-way streets in 2015, though apparently it’s pretty good for 2008. it’s built in.


Entered at Sat Nov 21 00:27:23 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Jeff…….please go for one of your great train rides or a walk…….eat some pizza, maybe meet a big bosomed lady with the Dutch accent and report back. I need some relief ! I guess we all do. I’m on a guitar and dvd diet only at home and so sorry to keep steering things back to politics here but it’s hard sometimes not to comment.

Time for some beer and music. Thanks for the info on Mavis, brown eyed girl. I love your spirit.

Sadavid: Naheed Nenshi is a wise man. So much so that it's surprising he got elected in Calgary. Progress.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 22:49:16 CET 2015 from (174.236.35.70)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: 180

Bill M, Yes it does appear that way. ;-)

The angle that I was going after, but probably didn’t express as well as I could have, is that our leadership (acting our representatives) was sticking it’s head in the sand, underestimating the threat (at least publicly), and generally downplaying the danger, for the sake of political advantage vs. actually protecting and serving. Calling ISIS JV and saying (on the very same day as the Paris attacks) that they’ve been contained is either disingenuous or disengaged or unaware. Seemed more like politics rather than leadership.

But on a personal level, there’s only so much we can do as far as directly dealing with the threat. So I thought that rather than bickering and divisiveness, it would be a better use of our energies to be nice to each other…not just here specifically, but in all of our dealings with people in the normal course of our lives. And perhaps goodness and kindness could spread, rather than hatred and negativity…and ultimately that may be our saving grace. A unified front of good to combat evil.

Of course I know that’s easier said than done, and I’m just as guilty as having a pissy day and sharing that with others as anyone….but I’m working on it!

Sadavid, Point taken about the ease of travel between places with just a basic passport, but that begs the question of why do so many terrorists seem to have passports? Are they issued by the same folks that we are entrusting to keep us safe from these types of threats? And I doubt that anyone will be crossing the Atlantic ocean in a leaky boat, but I could see how that may be more of an option on the Mediterranean.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 22:21:07 CET 2015 from (70.193.141.233)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Such A Night

Can't stop listening to the new Dr. John CD compilation "The Atco/Atlantic Singles 1968-1974. Included are 22 recordings that put Mac Rebennack, in the guise of Dr. John, on the music map. Featured are the groundbreaking cuts produced by Harold Battiste, Allen Toussaint and others. This great sounding compilation was produced by Cheryl Pawelski for Omnivore Recordings. Ms. Pawelski, as many may recall, previously worked on Capitol's ŕemastering of The Band catalog. Included are informative liner notes written by Gene Sculatti. One interesting tidbit is that it was the late great. Mr. Toussaint who came up with "music-hall, soft-shoe arrangement" for "Such A Night", which was later reprised with The Band at the Last Waltz.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 21:43:58 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.128)

Posted by:

Bill M

Todd: I think you did a 180. First you say that we should not stick our heads in the sand and naively assume that all will be well. But then you call up your inner Jackie DeShannon and suggest that what we need to do is put a little more love into our dealings with others - not that I think there's anything wrong with that.

Ian W: I'm surprised. We just got back from England where once again we were impressed with how well behaved almost all the drivers were, and how their sense of space seemed more finely honed.

Al E: Thought of you when I saw a Hillsiders LP in a charity shop, but didn't by it. Nor did I buy the LP by the (Liverpool?) Spinners. Did buy the Rough Guide to MP3 Playlists (or similar title) because it had Robyn Hitchcock's sound Band top ten. Elsewhere, our guys' version of "When I Paint" made the list of top-ten covers.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 21:21:37 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ. In a perfect world there would not be terrorists. So sometimes ideals get dirtied temporarily in order to protect the freedoms fought for. And don't forget, the founding fathers were not perfect. The democracy in the U.S.has always been in flux & rights have always been under attack. There is no perfect government & shame on anyone that only bitches & moans. I'm not meaning to imply that applies to anyone here. And JQ, i certianly am not implying you fall into this category, or anyone here does, but some people view everything as a part of a orchestrated conspiracy just to grab our liberties. To them I say horseshit When a terorist with a bomb want to blow up your neighborhood, or when a terrorist with a sword wants to chop your head off, see what good your conspiracy theory about trying to steal our rights does ya.



Entered at Fri Nov 20 19:44:19 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Is there anything we won't do?

Not an opinion, just an observation. We Americans love to demonstrate our sincere care and gratitude, as we should, to the hundreds of thousands of our countrymen who have died for our freedoms. Yet, when we get scared we don't seem inclined to risk any harm to ourselves to preserve those hard-won freedoms. E.G. The rapturous applause when Trump said he would register all American Muslims. The NSA spying deal is likely part of that forfeit to a degree also -


Entered at Fri Nov 20 19:32:40 CET 2015 from (100.2.21.114)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Taxi

I've had some notable taxi rides. My first time in London it was late in the evening and our Driver was taking us to address on Gloucester Road. He couldn't find the address and drove back and forth two times or three times. When he finally found it was a little ways in off Gloucester Road. He was so embarrassed by his not knowing that he refused to accept a tip./n . New York taxi drivers are another breed. The older guys knew all the streets and the best way to go. They would talk your ear off if you wanted to and they were very savvy Not so much anymore


Entered at Fri Nov 20 18:22:45 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

No one can argue about this. See the link.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 17:37:18 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Gun Control In Tennessee

See the link.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 17:15:49 CET 2015 from (131.137.34.213)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: perspective

Kevin J: It's a good point; I like the way Calgary's Muslim mayor Naheed Nenshi puts it:

"He said if he was organizing a plot to infiltrate Canada, he would consider the fact that terrorists were able to get people in France and Belgium to do horrible things inside their own countries. “If someone pulls out a French passport, they can be in Calgary in seven hours,” the mayor said, “without checks of any kind.

“So why would I want to embed bad guys, put them on leaky boats where they could die, have them sit in a refugee camp possibly for 18 months, in the hopes they might end up in a country where they might want to do bad stuff? It’s way easier to do bad stuff in other ways.”"


Entered at Fri Nov 20 17:00:44 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.47)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, though i have no proof, my very strong feeling is that there most likely terrorist activities that are ended / intercepted, & terrorist plots that are contained or thwarted on a regular, maybe daily basis in the U. S. , possibly in other places as well. Though the threats the U.S. & the entire non Moslem world faces is enormous, & ever increasingly so, I think that aside from the two major horrific attacks that were the 0/11 & Boston Marathon attacks, the U.S. has done a great job of containing it so far.Again, I've no proof, but there probably have been many serious threats thwarted we know naught of. In the case of the U. S, I think there's a lot more surveillance occurring than you give the intelligence community credit for. Probably in the case of Britain too. France well, the Nazi invasion lasted what, 5 minutes?



Entered at Fri Nov 20 16:55:46 CET 2015 from (70.51.83.14)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

MAY 11, 2015
BY SOMETHING ELSE!
Mavis Staples recalls lasting impact of the Band’s ‘Last Waltz,’ Rick Danko’s humor + Bob Dylan’s hair


Entered at Fri Nov 20 16:41:40 CET 2015 from (32.216.240.43)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Appeasement

Kevin, Perhaps it is a loaded word, but not every definition of appeasement is necessarily so.

But whatever the case, it seems that the burden has been placed on us to make sure that we don't offend anyone...especially terrorists, and then just maybe they will like us and stop the attacks. To me it smacks of blaming the victims for being attacked.

The failure, it seems to me, is that our leaders are so wrapped up in political spin and party divisiveness that it clouds their judgement, and there's an honesty that's conspicuously absent. They'll do or say anything to get elected/re-elected, even if it means sweeping a known problem under the carpet, or minimizing it. Failure to honestly identify a problem precludes any real chance of a solution. And the gang in Washington DC is famous for that. It's always about blaming someone else.

Regarding the refugee crisis, we (and every other civilized society) should do everything possible to help out on a humanitarian level. But many people are starting to lose trust that the powers that be can do anything competently, and there is a real fear that some terrorists will find the weak spot and infiltrate the refugee population. And it's disingenuous for the administration to portray the entire refugee population as "widows and 3 year old orphans". If that's how they want to spin it politically, then maybe we should only admit "widows and 3 year old orphans". But that's a fundamentally dishonest assessment of the situation. Not to mention that there's a responsibility to the widows and 3 year old orphans already in this country.

Ben, Regarding the bootlegs, I'd settle for a somewhat lower sound quality, if it was a bare bones release at a much lower price, and if it meant we'd get more releases more often.....but at the prices these sets go for, I'd prefer the best quality source.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 16:38:18 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: PF Sloan

PV - Great one! hadn't heard that song since it came out, 1970?


Entered at Fri Nov 20 16:15:24 CET 2015 from (70.51.83.14)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Ian. Can you pop over to Amsterdam by November 28?
Other upcoming "Mavis!" screenings as well.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 16:13:21 CET 2015 from (24.114.52.159)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Perspective

Just about every Isis member involved in every attack over the last few years has been an EU passport holder. 20 Million EU passport holders have made visits to the US in 2015.......completely un vetted as tourist arrivals are, of course. Just as US and Canadian passport holders can easily enter Europe.......and yet entire political parties and news networks are completely comfortable in making 25,000 refugees (that will be subject to an 18 month vetting per laws already on books) out to be a great threat to our civilization. Sickening !


Entered at Fri Nov 20 16:04:57 CET 2015 from (69.112.112.120)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: Bootleg Series

Ben, I'm not sure what you're talking about. The live shows released as part of The Bootleg Series have been amazing. I don't want to pay good money for crappy sounding shows. Actually, the benchmark for live releases is Bruce Springsteen. He's releasing the highest quality shows at very fair prices. My only gripe with Dylan's Bootleg Series is the price of the deluxe box's. The quality of the presentation has been near perfect.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 15:54:01 CET 2015 from (24.114.52.159)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Taxi v Uber

I had a conversation about Uber with one of the black taxi drivers ( "black" meaning the famous taxi type in London - not skin colour of driver ) while there a few weeks back, and he noted that he didn't think the Uber business plan would work in London.....he explained that he had studied for 6 years to pass the exams and get his license......even explaining that he and his brother would ride their bikes all over town for months on end learning and memorizing neighbourhoods and routes.....While talking music, he proudly told me that Rod Stewart had been in his cab and that he was a "lovely guy".......I liked that one.

Todd: "Appeasement" is a loaded word that is not at all applicable in this case. Looking more in the direction of the mis-guided "acceptance" and support of declared Allies like Saudi Arabia would be a better avenue to ensuring the long term safety of citizens.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 15:43:42 CET 2015 from (70.51.83.14)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Touching video of father reassuring boy after Paris attacks goes viral


Entered at Fri Nov 20 14:24:05 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Todd, I'm planning on picking up the 2 disc version of 'The Cutting Edge' at some point. My enthusiasm for this set is a bit muted as some of this material has been covered on previous sets.

I would actually prefer if Dylan changed his approach to the bootleg series and instead of cleaning up the sound and compiling these theme sets, they simply took some of the bootlegs that have come out over the years and released them himself.

One of the joys of bootlegs is that they are not perfect and sanitized. Other artists such as Frank Zappa, Graham Parker and Deep Purple have done these type of releases already.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 13:03:58 CET 2015 from (24.224.128.101)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

R.I.P. Ron Hynes.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 11:52:23 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: P.F. Sloan

RIP P.F. Sloan … I hadn't seen it till reading yesterday's paper with my coffee. As well as Eve of Destruction, another claim to fame is the guitar intro to California Dreamin' when part of the Wrecking Crew.

Link to Rumer singing Jimmy Webb's superb song "P.F. Sloan."


Entered at Fri Nov 20 10:53:42 CET 2015 from (82.22.145.205)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: US driving standards and braking distances

On our most recent US trip (about 1500 miles), I commented to my wife that, as a broad generality, I thought driving standards were higher than back in Britain. [I should add that this was far from my first driving experience in the States].

On reflection, it may simply be that, as the UK is a smaller country with a greater population density, there is less land available to give over to roads. And, as my driving instructor told me after I had passed my driving test [in my school uniform!], "Always remember - 'speed and space' - the higher your speed, the more space you need". Wise words which I've tried to keep in mind. In Britain, too many drive far too close to the vehicle in front.

And, like Peter, I was taught to use the engine (and the gears)to slow your vehicle down.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 09:59:30 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

My point about the ethnicity of the Nashville taxi driver (who also had to use Sat Nav or GPS to find a large hotel) is that so often US taxi drivers haven’t a clue where they are or what the geography of the city is, because they’re not local and are very recent arrivals. Generally, British ones are locals and have to pass a higher level of test.

We drove to Nashville along the Natchez Trace … a road with a 50 mph limit, no trucks allowed, no buildings at the side … beautiful, calm, everyone driving very safely.

Like the UK, traffic deaths have fallen by a very large degree in 30 years … Wiki picked up UK 39%, USA 35%, both impressive … but the US total for 2010 was five million crashes, 32,999 deaths. So, as was pointed out, a large war per year, rather than a small war.

A year or two ago I went on a day’s enforced driver awareness course. In many ways it was hilarious, and I’m trying to write a play about it. But it also changed my driving. My offence was 46 mph in a 40 mph zone at midnight, A brightly lit urban dual carriageway on a clear dry night, and I was the only car in sight in either direction. I was caught by a traffic camera. The choice is £60 and 3 penalty points (12 and you lose your licence) or £100 and a full day’s course but no points. If I’d been doing over 49 mph, I could not have chosen the course.

I was the only one out of twenty who knew the correct distance from the vehicle in front at various speeds while watching a video … everyone else was too close. But Going Back to Nashville (the little known C&W version of Back to Memphis?) and the interstates meeting there … in fact by far the most dangerous roads in the UK are small rural roads, followed by city streets, then dual carriageways with large motorways by far the safest per mile driven. Of course when something does happen on a motorway it’s spectacularly bad.

What’s weird to me is anyone who passed a British driving test in the last 25 years is taught to drive right up to a junction and then brake. I was always taught to use the gears on a manual car. The driver awareness instructor told me I was wrong. We hardly ever get snow in the South of England … “Just wait till it snows,” I muttered.

My dad sold tyres and brake linings. He'd have been delighted at the advice to use the brakes instead of the gears.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 05:09:48 CET 2015 from (32.216.237.90)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Music

Thanks Bonk.

In other news, I ended up buying the 2 disc version of Dylan's Bootleg Vol. 12 on sale for about $16.00, and also picked up the 6 disc deluxe version for $110.00. Just couldn't swing the 18 disc set, but I'm very pleased so far with the sets that I did end up with. I like having the 6 disc set with the book for home use, but the two disc version is handy to bring with me in the car where I do a lot of my CD listening. Still also digging the Beatles Mono LP's, and also recently purchased the CD version of the Beatles 1 remixed. My local store didn't have the version with all of the restored videos, but I'll keep an eye out for that as we get closer to the holidays.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 04:45:00 CET 2015 from (24.108.19.210)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Todd

Well said Todd!


Entered at Fri Nov 20 04:07:34 CET 2015 from (32.216.237.90)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Leadership & Unity

I don't have the answers, but it's painfully clear that there's been a failure of leadership in the way that the threat of terrorism has been handled. One of our leadership's primary responsibilities is to protect it's citizenry. I think that most people can see that the problem is not "contained".

Unfortunately appeasement and sticking our collective heads in the sand and hoping for the best is naively dangerous and is not a strategy for success.

As I said, I don't have the answers, but I think that the civilized world would be better served by unity, rather than bickering. The enemy wants us divided.....they know that we are stronger when we are unified. I just wish our "leaders" would realize this and set a better example.

Maybe old Rick had it right. We may not be able to save the world, but we can certainly help the neighborhood.

Be nice to each other, spread some goodness, and maybe that will ultimately prevail.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 02:41:24 CET 2015 from (82.22.145.205)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Taxis in Bucharest

The taxi drivers at Bucharest's Gara de Nord are noted for ripping off tourists, so we were prepared. On arrival there, we were told the fare to our hotel (2 miles at most) would be 80 Lei (about £16 at the then exchange rate, say US$25). Maybe not too bad in some major cities but we'd been to Romania before and knew this was outrageous. "Prea mult" ("Too much"), we insisted, as the taxi driver (and his mates) protested that it was a fair price. We called our hotel, got them to arrange a taxi to pick us and take us there. The driver used the meter and the cost, when we added the tip, was 8 Lei(a little over £1.60, around US$2.50).


Entered at Fri Nov 20 02:39:15 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Carmen, Where exactly did I call your beliefs stupid? I made a few comments about Trump and Carson earlier today and you responded by telling me to shut up. My comments were in no way directed towards you.

It's a fair assumption that all of us who read and post comments here are Band fans. But, you've probably noticed that a wide range of topics that are completely unrelated to the music of the Band are discussed here and some of those topics are political.

I doubt the nature of this guestbook is going to change anytime soon, so if the occasional "anarchist rant" is so offensive to you, maybe you should start a facebook group dedicated to the music of the Band in which you can monitor the posts and expel anyone who has a point of view that differs from yours.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 00:52:53 CET 2015 from (68.196.242.58)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Just Info. Article on ISIS already in America

I'll grant you that The NY Post is rather reactionary, but. you can read the article for yourselves, make up your own mind about whether you consider it valid.. I personally know naught of the gentleman interviewed . But i can tell you he's a typical NYC guy. How do i know? I loved when he was quoted as saying "...I need a piece of paper that says I’ m Tony Caterpillar....." that made me smile from ear to ear.

Now that guy, he's a natural comedian. NYC gives free comedy lessons.


Entered at Fri Nov 20 00:31:06 CET 2015 from (68.196.242.58)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, in the 80s the drivers in StLouis were courteous, intelligent, & mellow. I left in 85, when i returned in 97 they were all aggressive, rude, stupid, and tailgaters. they'll tailgate you in the rain and snow at 50, 6o, 65, 70, any speed. We had a 97 or 98 car pile up right at the highway exit i lived near for a year in St Peters, back in 98 or 99. In my experience in Minneapolis the drivers are just as insane. but like you say, no place are the drivers as aggressively rabid as in Phoenix. I spent 6 months in Scottsdale, working in Phoenix and Scottsdale Nov 2012 to the end of May 2011. i was in the car all damn day & till 8 to 10 in the evening, running leads and running installations. Without exaggeration i saw 3 to 6 accidents practically every day. Heavy duty ones, almost always at intersections. New York drivers historically were damn good, but that's changing rapidly. Every year i see more stupidity, rudeness, & just plain old idiocy on the road here. I used to love driving, and many the year i was good for 40- 60k. Began and wrote a lot of songs behind the wheel too... but driving ain't been the same for me for a while now...No mas. i never gave a good gosh darn bout the weather, the roads, or where i was. i was fine. No mas. I was taught to always be aware of the whole road, all the other cars round you etc. part of one eye on your rear view etc and that's a good strategy, but still now, the other drivers have raised the risk factor way too high. Bad weather especially.

BTW Pete, Shut the fuck up. Kevin, Al Edge, J.T., J.Q., Dunc,Bob F.,B.E.G., Ros, Joan,....Shut the fuck up, all of you!


Entered at Thu Nov 19 23:10:31 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Taxis

Every taxi driver is individual, but on the whole by far the best are London, UK … total professionals, know exactly where they're going. I'd agree in Dublin as the friendliest … also true of most service industries in Ireland. Belfast ditto. Germany is generally good too.

America is generally really, really bad. I'd except Orlando and New Orleans, but mostly appalling. No idea of routes, dangerous driving. Though one of the nicest I ever met was San Francisco … and American, which is rare.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 23:10:02 CET 2015 from (82.22.145.205)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: "MAVIS!" and Dylan

Thanks BEG for the response. From your brief description, it sounds as if the Dylan contribution is indeed from the WTTW programme, which I do have somewhere. I haven't viewed it in quite a while but it sounds familiar stuff. Mavis was interviewed for "NO DIRECTION HOME" but I don't recall Dylan speaking about her in any of his interview clips in that.

"NO DIRECTION HOME" included at least one clip from "FOLK SONGS AND MORE FOLK SONGS". It was recorded in March 1963 and I have a copy of the whole programme. Indeed, I was very much involved in getting it out from the Westinghouse TV vaults in the first place - entirely legally, I hasten to add - but it's rather a long tale to tell and, anyway, I'll probably get the story mixed up at this remove.



Entered at Thu Nov 19 22:40:02 CET 2015 from (70.51.83.14)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

76 is the new 66....56? Do it again Mavis!!!


Entered at Thu Nov 19 22:28:54 CET 2015 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Ben

Ben- I really don't care what you think. You have no idea what I am about and I don't need to justify myself or my beliefs unlike you. I don't ever hide behind the keyboard.

You see when I want to talk politics I go to the proper sites to do so. I am sure there are many here who have opinions that run the entire spectrum of thought. I don't need you telling me how stupid I am because I have certain beliefs that are different than yours. The one thing we GB'ers have in common is our Love of Music, The Band and related artists. I come here to talk Music, Share music related information and learn from others on the site about Music etc - not to hear you and your anarchist rants.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 22:06:18 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Best cabbies

I think I've ridden in cabs in every major U.S. city, but for me the very best are in Dublin -


Entered at Thu Nov 19 22:05:04 CET 2015 from (70.51.83.14)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I saw "Mavis!" yesterday at our Hot Docs Cinema. Oh yeah and The Band are present in TLW with The Staples. Doc review linked.

"We are honored to be able to bring Mavis’s story to the screen. The film had its world premiere at the South by Southwest Film Festival in March 2015, with more screenings, television broadcasts and home video release to come. (Apparently HBO has picked it up as well.) Follow Film First on Twitter of like the film’s Facebook page for news on the film’s progress and announcements of screenings near you."

For inquiries about the film, please email us at: info[at]filmfirstco.com. For press inquiries please contact RJ Millard at: rj[at]obscuredpictures.com

"Dylan pops up periodically here as a relaxed and forthcoming interviewee, and the equivalent of a supporting player in the Mavis Staples story. Even before he met the family, he recalls on camera, he was profoundly affected by the Staple Singers’ recording of the haunting “Uncloudy Day.” (“That made me stay up for a week, after I heard that song.”) Later, he crossed paths with the Staples during production of a TV special titled (no joke) “Folk Songs and More Folk Songs!” — represented here with an ineffably hilarious clip featuring a boyish Dylan — and he was immediately smitten with Mavis. So smitten, in fact, that Dylan asked Pops for Mavis’ hand in marriage. Mavis recalls that her relationship with the future superstar stopped far short of wedlock. But, she coyly concedes, “We may have smooched.”


Entered at Thu Nov 19 22:00:49 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Unnecessary would be the word, Peter. Two of the best three taxi experiences in my life involve black taxi rides in London and another involved a German taxi on a drive from Trier Germany to Luxembourg......But, a lasting impression of how taxi drivers should conduct themselves is my experiences with taxis in Nashville. Every one I have every been in has been extremely friendly and welcoming. I often think of this when I get in taxi's in Canadian cities and wonder how bad an impression the drivers often leave with people.........Sometimes the interaction with a taxi driver is all there is to create an impression of a city.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 21:56:07 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: LA freeways

PV - I came up in LA at a time when the freeways weren't gridlocked. And I agree wth you about their non-aggressive style. But in those days when you could drive fast and safe those LA drivers were something to watch, nearly ballet-like in the way they would move around, sometimes weaving in unison, etc. And safely. And fastly -


Entered at Thu Nov 19 21:32:12 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Driving in the USA

David, I found driving differs far more dramatically in the USA than it does here. I found Louisiana and Mississippi calm and relaxed, then Memphis kind of average, but Nashville on the far extreme end of aggressive. Similarly, I found Phoenix unusually extremely aggressive compared to LA, San Diego or San Francisco. I found New York, Long Island, New Jersey fine too. We just don’t have that degree of variation.

The worst drive I’ve had in years was a taxi back from the Grand Old Opry in Nashville where the driver had a long cell phone conversation with one hand, while elaborately picking his nose with the other, steering with his knees while swerving between lanes at 80 to 85 mph. Is it racist or simply factual to state he was African-African?


Entered at Thu Nov 19 21:11:46 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Hitler??

Ben - He's different from Hitler in regard to the religious vetting he suggests: Trump would be looking exclude the uncircumcised and Hitler did the opposite.

What's Carmen worked up about anyway?


Entered at Thu Nov 19 20:28:22 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey
Web: My link

Subject: Carmen

Carmen, Your chicken hawk hero, Donald Trump is starting to sound more and more like Hitler. I think he's about to announce a proposal to have Muslim Americans wear armbands.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 20:08:26 CET 2015 from (68.70.61.190)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Ben

Ben- do me a favor - shut up.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 19:34:52 CET 2015 from (82.22.145.205)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: "MAVIS!" and Bob Dylan

Is "MAVIS!" available on DVD or likely to become available on DVD, do you know? I doubt it will come my way - if, by that, you mean come to a local cinema. Maybe it will be on TV some time.

Some years back, WTTW (the Chicago PBS channel) broadcast a programme about The Staples Singers, for which Bob Dylan gave an interview. Are his contributions to "MAVIS!" taken from that broadcast, I wonder.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 18:59:36 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Peter: There are many interstate highways in Tennessee, including I-40 (a major east-west route) and I-75 (a major north-south route). Their falality figures therefore include many from out-of-state.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 18:54:22 CET 2015 from (70.51.83.14)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

If the docu Mavis! comes your way.....gotta see it! Even Dylan is here a couple of times talking about her and we get to hear the very first song he heard the Staples sing. We also see Mavis having a visit with Levon at his home. At one point she's with Jeff Tweedy and she completely breaks down. He is there to comfort her. Mavis.....Beautiful soul. I am so fortunate to have been touched by her in concerts and one concert with her Pops as well. Yeah.....They took me there.

Since my name keeps popping up......I keep hearing that the "master" mind of the Paris attacks was sadistic. I'm really confused now as I was asked here if I was. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with the choices I make when I post here.....I do lose respect when name calling and condescending remarks are made. In all honesty, I think I've only been given red stars for pen"men"ship in my printing as a child.
Thank you Peter and Kevin J. Thanks also to JT who may have disagreed with my choice of information but at least was respectful in his response. Otherwise, I will continue to post whatever I fffffff feeeeel like. ;-D


Entered at Thu Nov 19 18:14:59 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Absolutely right, Bob F!

BTW, I don’t think it’s useful to compare the number of deaths by driving, or smoking, or alcohol with acts of terrorism. Handguns? Well, that’s relevant because it’s in the same ball park.

It’s also clear that we will talk more about a Western city that many people have visited, and all of us know from movies, than somewhere we’ve never been to and are unlikely to visit. It’s natural … it’s the local paper to insular national paper to internationally minded newspaper progression. Here in my town, one death in a road accident will certainly make the front page. The closer to home, the more it shocks us.

On death from driving … last year Mrs V was terrified of the large road going into Nashville. ‘Don’t worry,’ I said, trying not to take my eyes off the road, ‘It looks bad, but I’m sure it’s perfectly safe.’ At that point we passed an electric sign saying “TN Road Fatalities YtD 490.” It was June. I drove to the hotel and looked it up. Tennessee with a population of 6.5 million had 1014 fatalities in 2013. The figure for Britain, with ten times the population, 65 million, was 1713 for 2013. And that was a 39% drop in ten years. The "let us drive as fast as we like" lobby puts the fall down to improved medical treatment and more highly trained paramedics, but it's not true. The number of crashes fell by the same percentage.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 18:09:28 CET 2015 from (69.112.112.120)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: Me Thinks

Kev, if "those guys with a straggly beard and partial to wearing long dresses with bare legs and socks" grew up on Bob Dylan music the world would be a much better place. The same thing would apply to the extreme right wing nuts we have.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 17:57:25 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The North West Frontier garb makes me think "We will reject everything about your decadent infidel culture except for a nice pair of black cotton "Freshfeet" socks and some sturdy lace-up shoes." So at least we were doing something right. I wonder of they check the source of the leather … I doubt that leather manufacturers are into ritual slaughter of animals, let alone prejudiced against the porcine.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 17:20:22 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: Music reigns

J.D. Macpherson: Good one; touring. Seattle, Portland and San Francisco early in the new year. Current music again. Good! I love it when someone directs to someone I haven't heard who might be worth hearing.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 17:10:46 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JD McPherson

Yesterday I heard him in our grocery store! It seems he was flying a bit below mainstream, but no more now I guess. His act isn't exactly original but I think it could be for his younger fans that have kopped (copped? never wrote it before) on. 50's rock n roll is very easy to like and lasts a lifetime -


Entered at Thu Nov 19 17:04:03 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: Listerine

Listerine: Good mouthwash during a war.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 17:03:00 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: GB politics

I wish our old pal Steve was still around -


Entered at Thu Nov 19 16:57:23 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: 37/14,000

37 takes: Only surpassed by the political takes at this GB.

14000 makes Dylan number 1: who are these people buying albums? Under 30s only download. Are these 'hard copies' to be included in the 14,000? I don't know how it works on Billboard now?


Entered at Thu Nov 19 16:47:51 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Dylan

Kevin, I just saw the billboard article this morning. Good for Dylan, but the startling thing is that 14,000 copies sold in the U.S. can produce a no 1. album.

Back in the 89's and 90's, no. 1 albums were typically selling hundreds of thousands in the first week.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 16:32:24 CET 2015 from (24.114.52.159)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bob Dylan

Bob Dylan's Bootleg Series, Vol. 12: 1965-1966, "The Best of the Cutting Edge" debuts at No. 1 on Billboard's Top Rock Albums. Only the 4th time in his career that Dylan has had a number 1 album.

Somewhere one of those guys with a straggly beard and partial to wearing long dresses with bare legs and socks that Peter is so startled by is thinking "fuck me, those blue eyed blond haired western nuts that keep telling me I've got things backwards are lining up to buy an album with 37 different takes of the same song!"


Entered at Thu Nov 19 15:59:16 CET 2015 from (83.249.161.239)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Thanks Peter for your reminiscenses on Marseilles. Actually, there is a compatriot of mine who is still a hero in Marseilles: Ari Vatanen, the winner of Paris Dakar Rallye and also a former conservative European Parliament Member. - But don't worry. You don't need to walk from the station to Vieux Port anymore. They sell only rotten fish there nowadays. What a shame! COACH SD should clean the place instead of this place IMHO.

I should have seen this coming for thirty years ago. But I didn't. I took part in a project in the University of Gothenburg back then and wanted to give a lift to a beautiful Libanese female scientist. "No" she said, "I can't sit in a car with a man". I should have used Listerine I thought. Then I sat by an East-African female colleague. No-one sat there and I felt sorry about here. Someone said "you must marry her now or her brothers will kill you". I took this as a racist joke. I don't know, I didn't marry her and I am still alive.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 15:27:14 CET 2015 from (24.114.52.159)

Posted by:

Kevin J

By next Friday, there will have been more deaths in the US by distracted driving than terrorism. There will have been close to 10,000 deaths by handgun ........but those deaths don't count as they are mainly inner city kids that don't vote Republican - no emergency measures or votes for these folks..........Ah, but ket's hurry on back to government house and reverse our votes on "Freedom Fries"- those French guys must realize they were wrong to oppose the invasion of Iraq now !

Equating refugees with terrorists "NOT EVEN 3 YEAR OLD ORPHANS" Chris Christie screams to wild cheers from everyone in his party and these type of sickening sentiments makes me much more fearful for the next generation than these recent events in Paris do.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 14:37:38 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

I think that the media coverage of the attack in Paris has become excessive at this point. This certainly is a major story, but the coverage on all of the cable news channels has been 24/7 for 5 1/2 days now. (The bombing in Beirut a few weeks ago received a small fraction of the coverage of the Paris attacks.)

An unfortunate byproduct of the attack is that many politicians in the U.S. including most of the Republican Presidential candidates are using the attack to incite fear of Syrian refugees. I don't know who is worse, a chicken hawk like Trump whose solution is to bomb the shit out of ISIS or Carson who is completely ignorant on all issues not related to the bible.

Dealing with ISIS and the others issues in the mid east is quite complex. I certainly don't claim to have the answer, but I think the heightened level of hysteria that has been fanned by the non-stop media coverage and predominantly right wing politicians is unhealthy and potentially dangerous. I wouldn't be surprised if a wave of hate crimes and attacks of Muslims is about to occur here in the U.S.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 13:36:36 CET 2015 from (64.229.236.80)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Some interesting insight, Peter. Our world is changing rapidly, it appears, and not for the better. I see much conflict in the years ahead. Hard to see a bright side to any of you this, but being pessimistic about the immediate future is of little help either, I'm telling myself. Still, one wonders if a softening if extremist views can ever be achieved. Probably not in my lifetime. I fear for the next generation.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 11:12:47 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

An aside … I mentioned that when I was doing talks on teaching English, there were usually two or three nuns in the audience, sometimes a dozen … Catholic schools were always strong on language teaching. After one talk, two nuns came up to me, and one said, ‘You mentioned your children. How many have you got?’ ‘Three,’ I said. She turned triumphantly to her friend, ‘There, sister,’ she said, ‘I told you he was Catholic.’ (Erroneously, in fact, but I didn’t correct her). It does make you realize that an audience spends as much time speculating on the speaker as listening.


Entered at Thu Nov 19 10:05:41 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

While it’s a pleasant thought to end wars by just putting the two leaders (or the group of leaders) in a bear pit with swords and letting them fight it out, it’s not realistic. Anyway, Putin would fight really dirty (though I’d put Tony Blair in a pit with him tomorrow and root for Vladimir). Conscription (British for the draft) isn’t going to focus minds etiher because Western military no longer thinks of putting large numbers on the ground. It’s all too high tech.

The trouble is that the Wahabi Saudi tribal version of the religion is intent on conversion and spreading. Think back. Twenty years ago the percentage of Muslims in our societies wasn’t vastly different but you never saw hijabs or burqas, or straggly beards or men in long dresses with bare legs and socks and shoes … it’s the leather shoes and black socks that look weird. It was because this sort of garb was Arabian peninsula or the North-West Frontier, i.e, the Pakistani-Afghani border area. Apart from a light headscarf sometimes, most Muslims wanted to be part of whichever society they were in and saw no need for markers, as of course the vast majority still do. I taught many Muslims right through the 70s and then did teacher-training right through the 80s and 90s and I never saw this gear. I spoke in Turkey and apart from two or three people in an audience of several hundred women teachers, you never saw all black … and those few didn’t have their faces covered. As far as clothes went, it looked much the same as Italy or Greece. And in most of Europe you’d have 2 or 3 Catholic nuns in a large audience.

But the ISIS aim is to convert and spread. USA is just over 2% Muslim. Britain is around 4.8% Muslim. France is 10.3%. ISIS are not just going to ignore us if we ignore them.

Back to my other point, the real issue is the absence of women from power, and with immigration, the high percentage of young males travelling without women or children.

Twenty years ago in Marseilles, I walked from the station to the harbour one evening and there were literally thousands of lone males crowding the streets. Just standing around, chain smoking. It’s not a healthy or balanced society and it’s a powder keg. Last week yet another Pakistani doctor in Britain was “struck off” the medical register for aborting female foetuses. The whole basis is fundamentally wrong.

I’ve written books for teaching Arabs to read the Roman alphabet. I’ve done a lot of teacher training with specialist teachers, most of them Muslim. As they say, they just can’t get to the women. The men want them at home and don’t want them to learn English … and watch TV and get new ideas.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 21:11:58 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The draft and misc

Bill M - I think you're right about getting more demos into the military. That's one thing the draft used to help with. I can't help thinking if we had a draft in 2003, some of those that were so enthusiastic about invading Iraq might have paused a bit if it was their kids that had to go. Not saying there weren't any rich and brave kids signing up, but historically it's been the poorer folks that go.

On the terrorist attack in France: I think it could be a mistake to put the emphasis for the whole thing on ISIS or that crushing ISIS would stop this type of terror. Consider the essential elements of a terrorist: motive, resourcefulness and 0 fear of death. Finances and the support of an umbrella group are likely lower down on that list. If the world decides that crushing ISIS is needed, that will be a strictly offensive event. Whereas stopping terrorism at home is defensive. And each nation will have to decide how much freedom they're willing to forego in the name of safety.

On motive, it's been said that their hatred for how we live is their primary driver. After 9/11 I recall Rudy G acting appalled when Ron Paul suggested the driver was, what was perceived as, our predatory presence in the Middle East. Consider a couple nations that live as infidels but are not attacked: China with its state aetheism and Brazil with its very sexy Carnival, gay parades, etc. But neither would be seen as active in that part of the world.

These are just unoriginal thoughts, but I think they can be indicators of how complicated this situation has become. And then a reality check with regard to the unintended consequences of whatever path the world chooses -


Entered at Wed Nov 18 21:06:50 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey
Web: My link

There's a radio broadcast of a 1993 Band concert being released next week in the UK. Hopefully the sound quality will be acceptable. I haven't heard this particular show, but have heard many other shows form this period and they were generally quite good.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 20:28:36 CET 2015 from (65.92.195.13)

Posted by:

Bill M

Joan: Yes, there is a certain logic to the suggestion, but that those men "should be used" renders the motives suspect. Still, the thought has occurred to me in various instances at various times, that the barking hawks should also be required to sign up for active duty.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 20:21:00 CET 2015 from (173.3.50.97)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: "You're a funny guy." "Been that way for all my time"

So Mike, i was in Gowanus this morning. I'm often there a couple of mornings a week Maybe three times a year I buy this organic Earthworm Mold & Mildew spray treatment that is great for tiled areas in the shower. i get it in Whole Foods. So today i select a veagn pistachio & cranberry scone, & the Earthworm Treatment, and take it up to the cashier. The gals there are always alot of fun, this gal and i are kibbitzing and she says 8 somehting. s i smile, and say, something tells me your register needs a vaction. She looks quizzical, i said, how much was The earthworm? She saus 5.99. i said ahah, it's 4.99. Some one went to look, said that indeed it was 4.99, an d the gal says to me two bucks. I said how's that? It should be 7 & change. She said that when they ring up the wrong price, store policy is that the item's free. Since I'm 4.99 plus sales tax ahead already today, I'm gonna share s few of my two cents with all of you. Not all of it mind you, cause I'm saving most of that.

With regards to the heated GB exchanges of a couple of days ago, I couldn't help but notice that Pete set the stage lighting for Norm to take the opportunity to calm down ( & maybe sober up) and sell that he was just being funny. Well, then, as long as that gets accepted, then I have always thought Norm was a very funny guy. Just a recent example, I'm certain Norm was just being funny a week ago, with PSB, BEG, etc etc.

Now, " I wanna know": Why does Norm get to have all the fun? What the fuck Norm? Ain't the rest of us funny too?

I think, don't the rest of you think that as long as everyone is laughing, we should all get to tell Kevin "Shut the fuck up!" ? Better yet, let's start with Norm..
Norm, shut the fuck up! Ha Ha!
Who wants to go next?
Kevin? Mike? Peter Stone Brown? B.E.G.? Bonk? Coach? Norm Clancy?
Really, long as everyone's laughing, step on up.... everyone can tell Norm to Shut the fuck up., then next, it's time to tell it to Kevin.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 18:41:11 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Utter Garbage

Sorry to hijack your positivity Jerry lad but...

Last Friday I posted a you tube link to a song by an act called Major Lazer.

It's evidently I regret bitterly to say the most downloaded song ever.

As of last Friday it had registered 266 million hits on You Tube.

Less than a week later that total now stands at 790 million hits.

That's over 500 million hits in 5 days. I repeat FIVE HUNDRED MILLION HITS in FIVE days.

Now maths ain't my strongest point but I make that almost half as many as Norm's recent spate of posts on here!!!

:-0)

Seriously folks - what the fuck is going on?


Entered at Wed Nov 18 16:54:42 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: B&RK barks

Back to music, folks: On Friday Nov. 20 evening: Tom Wilson (Lee Harvey Osmond) plays Upstairs Cabaret in Victoria BC: Stephen Fearing plays in Kelowna, BC: Colin Linden introduces a new album at a prominent cafe in Nashville, Tenn. And a new album is planned by B&RK in 2016. With all this negativity, this is some positive news and the future looks bright... I gotta wear shades.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 15:03:36 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Jeff, "Schlub from New Jersey", that's a great phrase and would make a nice title for a book. I'm scratching my head over your comments. I don't understand why you have such a hard time accepting the fact that someone disagrees with you. I'm a longtime fan of the Band, just like everyone else here. I don't really know what you're trying to insinuate and I don't particularly like it.

The reality is that a wide range of topics related to members of the Band and their relationships and interactions with other musicians have been discussed here over the years. So, I don't understand why my comment about Levon and Louie is anything out of the ordinary or off limits.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 14:24:00 CET 2015 from (173.3.50.97)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ben, time for me to run out the door. First,there is something you can bet people are noticing Ben. Though you have represented yourself as just a schlub from Jersey who's had no association with The Band, Band members or Woodstock beyond that of a fan interested in the music, some one who saw the Band a few times., you sure seem to have a stake in the game. The last few posts you made some rather strong comments ( persona non grata )about passages in the life of some one you've never presented yourself as knowing , in regards to a milieu that you have never associated yourself with.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 13:55:21 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Jeff, I don't know what anyone else reading this thinks. I wouldn't characterize the comments you've directed towards me during the past few days or prior to that as "polite". I would describe many of them as insulting and condescending. To put it simply, you seem to have a problem accepting the fact the someone disagrees with you.

Regarding the Levon/Louie issue, well I don't know where to begin. Do you really expect Louie to come out and tell the interviewer that Levon had cut ties with him? Frankly, Prof. Louie is not exactly a house hold name. His minor claim to fame is his previous association with the Band. He's probably gonna give these type of interviews for the rest of his career in which he discusses his years with The Band.

The fact of the matter is that during the ramble years Levon performed with all of the other members of the Band on occasion: Garth, Jim Weider, Randy Ciarlante and many other Woodtsock area musicians who he maintained relationships with such as John Sebastian, Artie Traum and Donald Fagen. One Woodstock area musician who previously worked closely with Levon, who never performed at a ramble is Louie.

Woodstock isn't exactly a metropolis. We're not talking about New York or Nashville, L.A. or London. The Woodstock music is relatively small, so I find it very difficult to believe that Louie went from being very close friends with Levon in the mid 90's to not seeing him for the last 12 or 13 years of Levon's life (while living in the same community) without their being some rupture in the relationship.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 11:39:10 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Funny, watching England v France last night my favourite result would have been a draw, the second a French win. I've never wanted England not to win a game before! But the result (England 2-0) wasn't relevant. The game got played.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 07:41:48 CET 2015 from (194.150.168.95)

Posted by:

Rosalind

Subject: Save the Last Dance For satan

I have just begin reading this tiny little book written by Nick Tosches and listening to the news at the same time.. made me realized that it's just what has happened here so late in the game. We've Saved the last dance for satan. BopBopaLuBopBaLopbamBoom


Entered at Wed Nov 18 07:19:57 CET 2015 from (173.3.49.30)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ben. Thesis huh. I doubt intelligent people without personal knowledge of this that have read the thread would agree with you. But don't doubt they would notice that you are the guy with suppositions. I made one simple polite statement to correct your inaccuracy, in one polite post. From that, you've insisted on creating a tsimmes. That's your deal.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 04:24:14 CET 2015 from (64.229.236.80)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Past events and musings

Some intelligent and heartfelt assessments here now and during the past few days relating to the Paris massacre. Some emotional viewpoints and some heated exchanges generated, all understood, but in the end a deeper bonding among us all, perhaps. I especially enjoyed Dunc's and Al Edge's contributions to this forum. Yes, more like a pub crowd. Good analogy. And Kevin's humor and restraint, and Norm's contemplative side. Who knew?


Entered at Wed Nov 18 02:09:42 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Last Band Song - Rick Danko - Book Faded Brown

After all the emotions of the uncertainty of the future, and for our grand children who follow us, I'm ending the day. Listening to this song and watching the pictures of a life time. Even through all my mistakes and some damn hard times.....maybe a little too often. It's still been a great life. Watch the pictures of a life time that has gone by.

I don't think any one of us could help but feel these 5 guys helped us through it. You could always turn to music to help you get thru' and some times take your mind of things that just got too gawd damn hard. I'll be forever grateful. It's been a great part of our lives. Lets let it all go for a while and listen to this and enjoy the pictures...........if only we could get others to do it. I hope "Playing For Change" can help.......even a little bit to those who know only hatred and never listen to music.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 01:40:21 CET 2015 from (193.200.150.125)

Posted by:

Coach HD

How about that badass liberal JQ? ,,,,,Calling ol' Westie a cunt right here in these hallowed halls.

Gots him some of them internet muscles I guess.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 00:50:23 CET 2015 from (24.114.52.159)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Vladimir Putin's office has just issued an official release on this seemingly absurd call for his help with the war......"Yes, I shall begin immediately to solve this mess between Jeff and Ben" End of statement.

Bob F: Great to see you back. I've got about 3 weeks of shows stacked up but look forward to watching Fargo down the road. Thank you.


Entered at Wed Nov 18 00:38:58 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Terrorist attacks

The recent terrorist attacks are bringing out the worst in many of politicians in the U.S. From the growing list of governors who say they won't take Syrian refugees to many of the candidates for President.

The worst offender is Ben Carson who is completely out of his element and utterly clueless. I am hoping for the announcement that the Carson campaign has been a hoax.

An article just came out today in which his advisors admit that he is completely confused by foreign policy. The thought of a Carson Presidency is truly frightening.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 23:46:53 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Jeff, You must have read a different article because the one I linked to doesn't support your thesis at all. I got a very strong feeling from the article that Louie was persona non grata to Levon for many years. Hopefully, the Hoskyns book will shed some light on this.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 23:41:48 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Beslan School & The Charge of the Light Brigade

I remember that well Peter, however that is part of the point. Another war monger which I believe Putin to be finding and creating an excuse to wage war and kill all the innocent because of a terrorist group.

I expect he does have a long memory. The Crimean war so long ago was another downfall for Russia and Putin has made it very clear he has no interest what so ever in a democratic country. That war all that time ago was another war flavoured with religion.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 23:20:56 CET 2015 from (31.53.23.70)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Sadavid

My apologies Sadavid. I think Russian but wrote Soviet in error.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 22:27:58 CET 2015 from (131.137.34.213)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: end the cold war

Dunc: good points, but the sabotaged aircraft should be described as "Russian." The airline began operations in '93, two years after the USSR dissolved.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 22:24:27 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: On their oil..

I agree with you Peter that shutting off oil is highly unlikely. It's the basis of those economies; without oil and its revenue they've only got sand to sell -


Entered at Tue Nov 17 22:10:09 CET 2015 from (31.53.23.70)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Role of Saudi Arabia

Peter's post picks up on which I missed in my post - the role of Saudi Arabia in the spread of Isis. Saudi Arabia is playing an important role in supporting the anti Shia jihad in Iraq and Syria. Shia Muslims are being eradicated in areas taken over by Isis. In some areas, being Shia is akin to being a Jew in Nazi Germany. There is not enough coverage of the role of Saudi Araba in the British press. Isis is supported by rich individuals in Saudi and Quatar.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 22:09:10 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Norm, I suspect Putin has a long memory. Look up the Beslan school siege, 2004. 331 dead, mostly children. It might be payback time.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 21:56:24 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I don't think we need to worry about oil supplies being shut off … Russia has plenty. The USA has its untouched Naval Reserves. A couple of months would do it. I never sad Putin was a nice guy … read about poisoned umbrellas and radioactive poisons in London … but he is the lesser of the two evils. We need to work with him.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 21:52:44 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ben, the article supports what i wrote. But do you really think an interview says everything or the conclusions you want to draw from it are valid? There's a lot of area musicians that did not perform at Rambles that Levon would not consider he severed ties or "friendship" with. The existence of a past friendship is not always defined by contact, presence, or work.

There's plenty more, that i won't write here. But I've made my points. And people who can read, & follow posts & threads, and follow trains of thought logically, well, I'd think they'd agree with what I presented from the beginning, in context re friendship & business... If people don't, i don't give a rat's ass.

There is much more to a friendship than recording, than contracts, than appearances, constancy, or frequency. Friendships don't die so easy, and have value, may have more or less of a flow, but only death can end the possibility of a variance in physical or phone contact. And the fact is that constancy & intensity & nature of interaction can & do change like the wind...But there's emotion, caring, & history, that without some serious conflict do not go away. Sometimes some people try not to remember history, cause it's easier..Sometimes that gets in their way too. There's also the reality of people & their natures, but that still cannot easily or completely deny or interfere with feelings & friendship....Cutting or severing ties as you have indicated you decided happened , is damn definite. The fact that you don't or don't admit to reading words, not even the meaning of what you wrote, accurately, & your failure to follow logical writing, weighs in to your presented or actual failure to understand logical, precise words.

I am a moron. There's no doubt about it. There's a reason that the great majority of other people with actual friendships & knowledge in this realm don't post here. And that only a few others do occasionally. I am a moron for continuing to.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 21:51:58 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.9)

Posted by:

Bill M

Petr V: I agree with you on the need to cut off the money. I suspect it'd be the most effective response in the long run.

Peter V / David P: I appreciate the Tallahachie bridge posts and I wish I could recall why (or what) I posted about BJ McAllister a few weeks ago. It was certainly nothing about Emmitt Till, a sad topic that opens up additional lines of thinking regarding what Ode was really about.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 21:50:24 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Vladimir Putin

The worst of two (or more) evils Peter. I don't know. If you have had any access to watching this documentary on Putin, he is probably worse than all of them. He had his people plant bombs in those apartment buildings in Moscow. Blow up his own people while they were sleeping. Then blame it on Chechnians so he could wage war on them and kill them at will. That is genocide.

In this documentary the richest man in Russia, (I can't remember his name). In their parliament he challenged Putin to be more transparent over the 32 billion dollars that was money of vice and corruption. He was jailed for ten years and his oil empire was dismantled and divided amoung the men loyal to Putin. In the size of that country he is more feared than Hussein or any of the others you describe.

What he gets away with and in particular in the Ukraine, when Hussein invaded Kuwate all countries were quick to wage war on him. Putin gets away with it. A commercial airliner that gets shot down by rebels with guns he supplied and nothing is done. I believe Obama is scared of him.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 21:48:27 CET 2015 from (100.2.21.114)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Dunc et al

Thank you Dunc you put is very succinctly. This is a terrible time in our world. These terrible events bring back the awfulness that I felt after 9/11. That was my city. I don't know how were going to cope with this I hope they find some ways. One of our pundits Chris Matthews has proposed that the heathy male refugees should be used the fight Isis in Syria. There's some logic to that. They should we be willing to defend their country backed by a responsible group of international soldiers. Let music bring us peace and harmony.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 21:37:58 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, you are correct. Of course, the result of the actions you describe would result in those same Arabian businessmen shutting off our oil supply. Which is one reason it hasn't happened. It's also a reason why we need alternative energy & to cut consumption so badly.



Entered at Tue Nov 17 21:23:25 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Excellent post from Dunc. Yes, it was music fans that died.

We need to read “The Naked & The Dead” by Norman Mailer, set in the Pacific campaign in WW2. The basic thesis is that when confronting total evil, you need a total bastard on your side … a role performed by (e.g.) Patton and Churchill.

In 1941 we had to sit down and talk to Stalin. At this point, we have to sit down and talk to Vladimir Putin and to China. Putin is that necessary bastard. What Putin said on Saturday, was that the root problem was the “paymasters.” He’s correct. We knew the nationality of the 9/11 terrorists, nearly all Saudi, but we went after everybody except the source. Because of course two American presidents named Bush were in extremely tight business relationships with the Saudis. Read Michael Moore. That same source is spreading a tribal medieval and barbaric perversion of what was an otherwise tolerant religion across the world, and they are funding these extreme views. As is “World Cup” Qatar. Muslim friends tell me that Saudi money is pouring into the West to promote their extreme religious views. It’s just as if (say) the USA or the EU decided that the worst excesses of the Spanish Inquisition (or the Salem witch trials) was the only correct type of Christianity and decided to push it onto the world.

I would add that moderate normal Muslims really need to stand up and be counted right now … not in a few hundred in Trafalgar Square last weekend, but in hundreds of thousands.

§ Putin is also probably right that Assad, like Saddam and Gaddafi, might unfortunately be the best prospect, at least in the short term. The Saudis hated these three … Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad … because all three were secular. I notice that whenever an Assad representative speaks on TV, it’s a woman, with no headscarf, who speaks English perfectly. He has about 40% support. OK, he’s a bastard too, but have you looked at the alternatives?

The paymasters money is in the West. A lot is locked in ownership of companies and hotels. That’s the way to cut the head off the snake. BUT and it’s a very big “but” is that if you removed those princes, the extreme religious crew would sweep into their place and be far worse. What’s needed is to use enough persuasion to stop the flow of money and support. We apparently have great intelligence. We should be able to trace individuals paying. Then confiscate all their assets in the West. I believe money laundering legislation already on the statute books can do it.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 20:13:58 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Lady Tibba Gamble

From my friendship with Alexis Suter on Face Book, I have had brought to my Page, Lady Tibba Gamble.

On youtube you can find her singing with her daughter Coco, their cover of Eric Clapton's "Tears in Heaven". They sing like angels.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 19:05:26 CET 2015 from (31.53.23.70)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thought I'd thank you all. I really enjoy the Gb or else I wouldn't come. I see us, as Kevin alluded, as a pub community. What unites us is 'The Band' and then we discuss other things and sometimes discussions can get heated. But we must remain civil towards each other.

Thanks again.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 18:48:34 CET 2015 from (31.53.23.70)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Politics

The attack on Parisians was a heinous act. We are concert goers here. The attacks, including the attack at the concert, was an attack on our way of life. We enjoy life whereas they follow a twisted religious ideology which celebrates death. Do you think the debates on this GB would be tolerated under Isis?

If some of the favourite acts discussed on this GB had been playing, and we were in Paris, we would have been at the concert. Two Scots girls described a terrifying ordeal at the concert, hiding in a cellar for three hours thinking they were going to die.

The discovery of two mass graves outside Sinjar a town that was ruled by Isis for a year is not a surprise. 78 elderly women's bodies were found in the first grave, while between 50 and 60 bodies of men, women and children were found in the second grave. Thousands of members of the Yashdi community have been killed and captured with women being forced into sexual slavery. This is a genocide.

The destruction of the Soviet aircraft is another brutal, unforgivable act.

David Cameron announced that several planned attacks on Britain have been averted this year by our security forces.

The first refugees arrive in Glasgow about now. I hope they are given support. If us Scots don't support the refugees from the camps, then Isis wanting to spread terror will have achieved success. The Muslim community in Scotland contributes to Scottish life.

However we must challenge and act on anything in our society which challenges our way of life - online sites trying to radicalise young Muslims for example or anybody who spreads hatred. When a professional footballer makes an anti semitic sign, this should be acted on.

And Isis is a fascist organisation. We must learn the lesson from World War 2 and destroy it. The Nazis should have been destroyed when they began to gather support. As you know, I'm not a conservative, but I support Cameron in his call for air strikes. But there must be discussion with other countries including Russia. And China?

The situation in Syria is difficult as we know. The Independent described how some moderate resistant groups have now become extreme. And we have all read recently about how some US supported resistance groups sold the weaponry they had been supplied with.

I wanted to respond to some of the posts here, but I feel a GB is not the ideal place for this discussion because I, like everybody else here probably, feel I could write a lot more.

But this is a relevant discussion on this GB. It is many music fans and lovers of life who have been murdered in Paris. Je suis Paris.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 18:30:22 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Longmire

Thanks Bob. Susan suggested Longmire to me too. I've been meaning to watch it. Next time down island to the big towns I'm going to get some DVD's.

My problem is going out on trips on the tug. I miss a lot of stuff. When I can get into my family room down stairs and put these DVD's in a lay back I really enjoy it. The weather right now makes for a lot of harbour days where I really enjoy being at home with Susan, the fire, and the DVD's.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 18:16:36 CET 2015 from (69.112.112.120)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: Hell on Wheels - Longmire

Norm, I did. It was excellent! I'm looking forward to the conclusion. If you haven't watched Longmire, check it out. A modern day sheriff but with the feel of a great western. I think you'd really like the show and there is about 6 seasons on DVD.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 17:50:41 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hell on Wheels - Into the Badlands

Bob! did you watch Hell on Wheels this season? It appears they split the season in to half summer 2015 and half summer 2016. I didn't bother watching it. I'm waiting for the DVD so I can watch it through.....if I'm still around.

The new series Into the Bad Lands started Sunday night, last. Looks like it may be good. A lot of martial arts special effects. Has won a lot of awards in China apparently.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 17:45:51 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Jam Band.com

Ben thanks for the link. That was a great read, from a humble fellow. The Ophelia vid was great and gave me a feeling of some Dixieland.

Your recent conversation is the usual and your learning.........Thanks again.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 16:19:55 CET 2015 from (69.112.112.120)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Subject: Fargo

Kevin, check out the first season of Fargo, recently released on DVD. Wonderful FX show with terrific characters.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 15:28:48 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey
Web: My link

Jeff A, You really are an obnoxious asshole. The initial comment I made yesterday was not directed towards you. Once again, let me repeat it for the umpteenth time so you may understand, it was in reference to the upcoming Hoskyns book about Woodstock.

I don't see anything moronic about it. Obviously, you seem to think that you have some great insight and inside information about Levon because you hired him to work on a session for you once. Well, mazel tov.

I did a google search on Professor Louie and found the attached interview with Louie from 2012. Please read this, it seems pretty clear from this that Louie wanted to keep working with Levon after Rick's death and the end of the Band, but Levon chose not to.

As far as I know Louie has remained in the Woodstock area and it seems from this interview that he was never asked to participate in any of the rambles at Levon's barn. So, it seems pretty obvious from this that Levon cut ties with Louie.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 13:14:23 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: She's back!

Rosalind! I thought you had run off with some teen age boy and was living in a hippy commune in South America??


Entered at Tue Nov 17 10:45:50 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Too many males …

I also fear for the world my grandkids will live in. These people ban music altogether. Any music. Any dance.

I think we all know that bombing Iraq and Libya was entirely negative. We should have realized that while they were vicious dictators, both Saddam and Gaddafi were better than the alternative that resulted. Gaddafi was raving on TV News as it all collapsed with a translator. He said ‘If you get rid of me, in a year women will be in burquas, banned from schools, afraid to walk the streets, the tribes will be killing each other and I’m all that’s stopping millions of Africans from flooding through Libya into Europe.” Not really that mad, then. Libya had the highest percentage of women in higher education in the region.

The refugee problem is exacerbated by the male: female ratio. Around 75% of Syrian refugees are adult males. By the time they get to Calais, where Somalis, and Afghanis dominate, 90% are adult males. Truck drivers are leaving their jobs because of the threat of violence at Calais. If you follow Merkl’s path, let the first to get there through, you are admitting mainly the most aggressive males, and you’re going to have weird demographics in future. Which is why British policy is to take families, widowed women and orphans direct from the refugee camps (to which the UK is the single largest contributor), rather than those who are forcing their way through. And no, we’re taking nowhere near enough of them, but the focus on Syrian refugee families, women and children is right. Today’s paper says that of the 213,000 immigrants arriving in Europe this summer, only 44,000 were Syrian. Apparently 17,700 Albanians … a European country at peace … have joined the march to Germany.



Entered at Tue Nov 17 06:16:58 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norm, while i agree with you, please take it easy on that Crown Royal before you find your sense of humor again :-).


Entered at Tue Nov 17 05:52:02 CET 2015 from (77.244.254.229)

Posted by:

Rosalind

Oh Tell, Hasn't your Fabulous Rainbow King, The Big O, The Great One on the unicorn with the rainbow halo comin' down between the pillars, Hasn't he done one Big Bang up of a job in that old White house for the last seven years or so? Oh, I thik so. I think he's just wonderful, don't you all? Yeah, Me Too !


Entered at Tue Nov 17 05:36:55 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: In Perspective

Is any of this really in perspective? First of all, this site is dedicated to the music of the BAND which we all have admired for a life time.

Unfortunately, too often current events cause the topics to get shifted to things that, really a lot of us would be much happier to not have to discuss.

The sentiments of Kevin's feelings about bombs dropping and the cruel unwanted destruction of humanity becomes unbearable. We are a peaceful country with love for our fellow man. However, you get put with your back against the wall. You are no longer a spectator or an observer. You are put into a situation where you have to make HARD, real life decisions. How many people who voice their opinion and vent have ever been in that situation? Your opinion certainly does count and you have your right to it.....but have you ever been in that situation....where a population of humanity depend on you.

I know I haven't, and I never want to be. We, in our world never want to hurt any one. This is not a eutopia....if only. My grandfather, (who died when my mom was only 14) from complications from WW1. He was at Vimy Ridge and managed to make it home, but only lasted 'till he was 44.

Any of you who know or understand history must know what France does to honour the Canadian Forces Infantrymen who took that gawd damn ridge. So when you put down the act of "DEFENCE". First of all understand what the sacrifices are to save entire countries as well as refugees. I never got to see my grandfather or sit on his knee but I sure in hell know what he did. Maybe some of you are not aware of the excavation that is going on up on that ridge and the poor souls they are still bringing up out of those tunnels after all this time.

None of us want to see any war or destruction, but get real. It is stuck in our faces by war mongers who have to be stopped. DEAL WITH IT!


Entered at Tue Nov 17 04:57:52 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, i think you better make sure Norm understands that i was just joking.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 04:55:41 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Bonk, another thing about this GB: You give anyone enough time, they'll write something perceptive that's almost universally true amongst intelligent people. Even if you gotta wait 11 or 12 years. For example, Norm wrote: "I think the older we get and the more we've seen does not harden or toughen us..........the easier it is to make us cry." Gawddamn Norm, you're just chock full of surprises..... You must have read that in a book somewhere. Now remember, i'm just joking. But what was the name of that book? Just joking.:-) Can i get in Barnes & Noble.....Just joking. :-) Really I am... :-) just joking, don't forget.........


Entered at Tue Nov 17 04:28:10 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bonk

Bonk........I really don't know. Turning back the clock and correcting Iraq would help but that's fantasy, of course. Like JQ, I just know in my gut we are playing into the hands of the nuts when refugees are equated with terrorists and occupying/bombing is led by the same crowd that cheered so lustily when the Iraq strategy was employed.........great post, by the way. A lot of us have known each other for a long time here. Most of the time, it's a great saloon type community.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 03:59:04 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Accepted. Thank you, Norm.....and in the spirit of humour, I remember writing that you had "gone fucking mad" but not that you were a "crazy old fucker"......anyhow, we all need some humour now as this whole situation is just so damn depressing on so many levels. War zones, you can pull people out of and convince family to come home. How do you even start that conversation when home may not be any safer in this crazy conflict.

I stopped tonight and picked up some DVD's - George Gently season 7 and the final two seasons of Sons of Anarchy.....No more news for at least a few weeks ! May stop by JT's Dad's old place and look around for new guitar as well this week......been a while.......Thank you, Al - for finding the right words as always.......let's all pray/hope that the madness that follows from all sides over the next few years ends up hurting as few people as is possible.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 03:32:52 CET 2015 from (24.108.19.210)

Posted by:

BONK

I think the hardest thing that I learned by being on this site for the past 15 years is that not everyone else on this site thinks or expresses themselves like I do. It took a while. I think in the beginning Jan must have banned or deleted me at least 12 times. I think the hardest part was answering folks from other countries without sounding rude. I was very ignorant to the fact that other people just might have a different view or spin on what we were discussing. Jeez! Have I ever been humbled here at times. I don't think there's a person on this site that I truly dislike. Though some that just pop on here to vent some shit and just disappear without explaining where their coming from are really hard to take. I've been told to fuck-off, kiss my ass, called a c''', and had my feelings hurt. And sometimes it hurts worse than if you had it said to your face. But in most cases people will apologize or just temper there feelings. A perfect example is Norm apologizing to Kevin. It takes a big person to do that. (and for fucks sake Norm I'm not saying you were wrong!) Kevin. I hear what you say about bombing indiscriminately. It's wrong. But how do we stop this shit?


Entered at Tue Nov 17 02:16:07 CET 2015 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: Pa
Web: My link

Subject: The River

For Bruce fans. Enjoy


Entered at Tue Nov 17 02:02:37 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Second thougts

On second thought Kevin, that was a little harsh, I apologize. We were joking at first, (I hope). As I had said before I hope young Mr. Tredeau does well he deserves the chance. I respect your concern for your family in France. That is no laughing matter.

JQ go take some valium or Scotch.........or what ever makes you go to sleep.........I think I'll drive all the way down there and pour a bottle of Crown Royal down your throat............gawd damn it!


Entered at Tue Nov 17 01:53:56 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Misread & Re - read

Try in your feeble old mind Kevin to remember a few of your posts, like a ways back you called me a "crazy old fucker". Later on after the election you very pompously said now the "government is back where it should be." So don't whine and snivel about a comment I made to you. You should take it in the same way I took your "crazy old fucker" remark. It was meant with the same intent. You got the government you want, so you should be comfortable in the knowledge they will turn things around and this will all be taken care of to your satisfaction. The F 18's are coming home along with every one else and we will be handing out blankets and water and teaching the boys who live there how to scratch every ones eyes out.

You there JQ! go back to your needle point and do something useful. Your running off at the mouth is a total waste of time. You sure aren't doing anything useful.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 01:43:30 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: And the Oscar for Best Portrayal of a

Ben, Make no mistake about this. I don't think that you're a moron. I'm not writing that you are a moron. But, if I'm right that you aren't, then I'm certain that you are doing one of the best jobs anyone ever has of impersonating a moron in this GB. Once again. You seem to relish doing this. Why, i don't know. But there is a pattern you present.

If anyone has a problem with my comment, just go back and read the thread from the beginning. Slowly, please. Mind you, i did type please.


Entered at Tue Nov 17 01:41:22 CET 2015 from (97.127.30.101)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Web: My link

"Everyone agrees . . ."


Entered at Mon Nov 16 23:10:50 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

David, note that almost hidden reference to Billie Joe in "Reunion" too. Doing the Toppermost, my admiration grew and grew.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 22:15:28 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Well, I'm not directing traffic. I could call my best friends the C-word and we'd laugh and think nothing wrong with it. It is a bit harsh to a stranger though. I think it's best left that everyone is fraught at present. It's all wound up tight. No one knows the answer, except none of the ones tried over the last decade worked.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 22:12:27 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

The horrific events in Paris have left every decent soul numbed and our hearts go out to those directly affected by what took place. The indiscriminate mindlessness of the horror makes it hard not to endorse Bonk’s succinct take that the world is simply fucked not least because of the seeming awful reality that nobody has any viable answers to it all. By the same token Kevin is in no way wrong to remind us all that no matter how evil these ISIS people may be there are aspects concerning what has purported to represent a response to terrorism which are also far from palatable.

Reflecting further, possibly the most unpalatable thing of all is the realisation about where this has all stemmed from. The fact that inherent within elements of the very same mankind of which we must remember we are all a part is an evil which begets such violence and carnage and which in turn begets further violence and carnage. The majority of us who recoil at the horror must accept with sad hearts that we are and shall be forever cursed with that awful reality. For all the genuine and understandable hopes of so many of us for a better place, the intrinsic propensity for such evil and violence is a stain upon mankind that can never be erased.

If I’ve only ever gotten to absorb only one reality in life it’s that original sin was certainly no Catholic primary school fairy tale.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 22:09:14 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Ode to Billie Joe

So the backstory for the song might be that below the bridge flow the muddy, blood-stained waters where dark secrets once submerged & hidden may one day surface downstream.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 20:49:52 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Peter: I'm not sure that Ms. Gentry was specifically alluding to the death of Emmett Till in the song. She did, however, grow up in nearby Greenwood, until moving to California at age 13. It's hard to imagine though that she was unaware of the infamous historical event in the civil rights movement which occurred at the time she was around 11 years old.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 20:48:03 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Since Norm's comments were directed at me, I can tell you they were not misread. Telling someone to "shut the fuck up" is difficult to misread......But please go on directing traffic and telling people what and how it should be said if it makes you feel any better.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 20:47:38 CET 2015 from (68.116.44.170)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: OK

You're sorta right PV - I apologize to sinking to the sort of lingo Wescoaster seems to favor. Over here, and it's not the whole country, there's a current blood-lust being expressed by our right wing - just the same as there was in 2003 when we fell into that Iraq caper -


Entered at Mon Nov 16 20:29:44 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

JQ, I think disagreement could be registered somewhat more respectfully. I'm sure Norm can argue his own corner, but there are multiple viewpoints and I think he was misread. A polite apology would not go amiss!


Entered at Mon Nov 16 20:26:00 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Tallahatchie Bridge

I didn't know the Emmett Till connection, David … was Bobbie Gentry referencing that? I wonder.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 20:22:42 CET 2015 from (68.116.44.170)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: "It always looks easier from the cheap seats"

So Westcoaster, what are you going to do? Maybe fly over to Turkey and help with the border refugees - as long as they're Christians? Or volunteer to pay double taxes to support a military venture? Or just sit on your fucking dead ass and moan like a hypocritical cunt? As you said, to stifle debate, "just shut the fuck up"


Entered at Mon Nov 16 19:37:14 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

LINKED: A great article on Albert Grossman published just after his death......appearances by Garth and a wonderful bit with Rick Danko that says so much about Rick's personality and positive outlook on life.

This article is just a taste of the scene that surrounded Albert Grossman...I am very much looking forward to reading the Hoskyns book. Just wish it was being published before Christmas.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 19:28:10 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Tallahatchie Bridge

From a historical perspective, the Tallahatchie Bridge was in Money, Mississippi, where 14-year old Emmett Till was brutally murdered in August 1955. After he was tortured & killed, his racist assailants took his body, drove across the Tallachatchie Bridge and dumped his body from the bank into the river weighted down by a 70-pound cotton gin fan tied around his neck by barbed wire. He was found downstream several days later.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 18:39:30 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Jeff, So are you suggesting that I misinterpreted your snarky comments? I think my reading comprehension is fine, thanks for the concern.

I don't see anything flippant about my comment. My comment was in reference to the forthcoming Barney Hoskyns book about Woodstock.

I make no claims of having any inside information about what went on at Woodstock records or the relationship between Levon and Louie.

As I understand it, Levon and Louie didn't work on any recording projects after 'Times Like These'. Do I have this wrong? Louie is not on any of the Midnight Ramble releases, Dirt Farmer or Electric Dirt. Those are the facts.

If you have some knowledge of some unreleased project that they worked on together, I'd be very curious to read about it.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 17:56:29 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ben, there was no personal comment. But you do seem to be very flippant about writing that people have severed ties. Friendships, and business relationships don't disappear so easily. If you think friendships or the business of music stops at the recording studio door you are wrong.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 17:32:55 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Jeff, I stand by my comment. Levon and Louie worked on a number of projects from The Band's 'Jericho' to Rick's 'Times Like These' which was completed shortly after Rick's death. I am not aware of any other projects after that, so my comment about them cutting ties seems to be a reasonable assumption.

I'm scratching my head over your comment about my claim to being an educator. I've never made a comment to that effect.

I don't see any reason to resort to personal comments here. I was simply making an observational comment about Levon's relationship with Professor Louie.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 17:04:43 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ben- here is what you wrote : "I would like some coverage of Woodstock Records, which Levon and Rick were heavily involved with for a few years, but after Rick's death Levon seems to have cut his ties with Prof. Louie and the label. I've often wondered what went down. " That is what I responded to. Plain & simple. Did you not write here that you are an educator? You should be able to follow that easily. Your new introduction of them working on projects together has nothing to do with the actual meaning of what you wrote prior, and is no indicator of whether or not they had a relationship and ties. Reading comprehension! Ben, it's elementary.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 16:48:22 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Levon and Prof Louie

Jeff, I don't think there's anything inaccurate in my post. I don't pretend to have the inside information about what happened. That's why I brought this up in regards to Hoskyn's forthcoming book.

During the 1990's Professor Louie worked closely with The Band on their studio albums and with Rick. Levon briefly played with the Cromatix and one CD was released on Woodstock records. It seems that after Rick's death, the working association between Louie and Levon declined.

I am not aware of any projects that the two of them worked on after Rick's death. If you have some knowledge of any, I'd love to hear about it.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 16:42:08 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Ceremony of Innocence Is Drowned

U2, on their Innocence + Experience Tour, were rehearsing in Paris Friday night, preparing for a HBO broadcast of their concert scheduled for Saturday night. As were other activities, the concert was cancelled. In light of the senseless tragedy of hundreds of deaths and wounded, with most occuring at another music event, the U2 cancellation is of little importance. Recalling the words of William Butler Yeats, "mere anarchy is loosed upon the world." The question of how we deal with the "rough beasts" slouching towards our civilized societies with "gazes blank and pitiless" is a troubling nightmare.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 16:31:03 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Ben, to address some inaccuracies in your post, I doubt Levon was ever heavily involved with Woodstock Records itself. He also did not severe ties with Aaron. They continued to be friends & business always continued. They had business that would continue indefinitely. I'm not about to discuss my limited knowledge of the reasons for some adjustments & changes taking place, but that is something that happened frequently. There's also some circumstances converging that coincided & created conditions for influence, but no, Levon did not severe ties with Aaron.

In late Dec 2001 & early 2002 when I was looking to record School For Fools I was having drummer problems in St Louis. Neither of two excellent blues drummers there could make it to one rehearsal, & they both had enough problems & attitude that I wasn't going in without one rehearsal. The drummers that could make a rehearsal, well, i didn't dig their playing..There was one of the all time greatest blues drummers right there too, Kenny Rice, but after 40 years of friendship he had burned part of the bridge with JJ, & I wasn't calling him out of respect for JJ. Plus, though Rice didn't need no rehearsal ever, he coulda been a studio time bomb. So one night i went to sleep thinking I better get Sam Lay's phone #. You want musicians who don't need a rehearsal, don't need to know the material.So I'm thinking to find Sam Lay, only 5 hours away.... Next morning I'm on the throne, the light bulb went off. I called Aaron, told him i was about to record in St Louis & needed Levon. He said I'll call you right back. 5 minutes might have gone by. Aaron called, said here's Levon's #, he's expecting your call now. One ring.... Ties were not severed. Changes took place, but that was not ever unusual. Changes got unchanged too, & other changes followed & some of them changed too. You needed a scorecard.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 15:57:21 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Bobbie Gentry

The Toppermost on Bobbie Gentry is now up. There's a lot more than just Ode to Billie Joe. Pleased add comments over there (or here).


Entered at Mon Nov 16 14:58:47 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'm not sure it will cause too much fuss … I recall the last Hoskyns interview with Levon, and he mentioned trepidation, because he wondered whether Levon realised who he was, or whether he did, but was just being pleasant. Anyway, from memory it was all positive.

Van hates any biographical stuff, but otherwise. It's going to beat Robbie's autobiography to the bookstores, just as "Across The Divide" was published well before "This Wheel's On Fire." The gap here is a lot narrower but Robbie, I assume, will have a lot more to say about the more than 40 years since he left the area.

I don't know Da Capo Press, the publisher. Across The Great Divide was Allen Lane / Penguin, and they'd definitely have had a final manuscript a full year before publication … inexplicably we might think, but for big traditional publishers that's between normal and quick.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 14:31:18 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Barney Hoskyns

I am looking forward to this new Barney Hoskyns book. I found 'Across the Great Divide' to be a very good book, which I often return to. Hoskyns is a much better writer than Stephen Davis in my opinion.

I hope that Hoskyns interviewed Prof. Louie and the other members of the Cromatix as well as Jim Weider and Randy Ciarlante. I would like some coverage of Woodstock Records, which Levon and Rick were heavily involved with for a few years, but after Rick's death Levon seems to have cut his ties with Prof. Louie and the label. I've often wondered what went down.

The Levon and The Cromatix cd, 'Souvenir, Vol. 1' is a favorite of mine. I would love to see a follow up cd released at some point.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 13:57:33 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Woodstock

As I said earlier, I hope the book comes up to date: The Felice Brothers, Simone Felice, Simi Stone, Amy Helm, Larry Campbell & Teresa Williams.

The Van Morrison, Band, Dylan stuff is pretty well covered by now. Simi Stone mentioned growing up in Woodstock last week. Natalie Merchant is in the area too.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 13:35:58 CET 2015 from (84.215.171.237)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: New book from BH

Peter, I am looking forward to the book. Should be very interesting for those of us who have been lucky enough to get a few glimpses inside that world over the last couple of decades. And, of course, the flak will be plentiful.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 13:05:05 CET 2015 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Peter V

Peter - that's the problem - instead of shutting down Play Station systems - why not just shut down ISIS. Do you for a moment think these people that want to kill anyone who does not think their way wont find another way to communicate.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 12:41:29 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

On Paris … I was in the supermarket this morning, and finished going through the check-out at 10.55. They had been announcing the All-Europe one minute silence for 11 a.m. and it seemed odd to leave … a one minute silence on your own in a car seems meaningless. So I lingered by the magazines and there were half a dozen people with full shopping trolleys lingering too. We were all waiting for the one minute silence, and we must have all felt the communal need to stand quietly with others. I must say the whole mood this morning is somber.

Fascinating … I mentioned the foul Playstation game “Call of Duty.” Guess what Paris police found in the killers’ apartments? Apparently you can send encrypted messages to other game players. There are 25 million of these machines. Perhaps Sony should shut down the websites which work with it? Or rather be made to shut down the websites.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 12:34:11 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

To be fair, Jan, Barney Hoskyns did live in Woodstock for a year, and his book on the Los Angeles music scene is extremely good. If you look at his articles over the last 20 years there are outstanding interviews … Lou Reed and Levon Helm's interview are both good journalism.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 11:53:01 CET 2015 from (84.215.171.237)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: New book from Hoskyns

This one should be a hit in certain circles: A British know-it-all with an "insider's" view on the Woodstock music scene :-)


Entered at Mon Nov 16 10:55:08 CET 2015 from (91.213.8.235)

Posted by:

Rosalind

I think George W Bush did it. Wha'daya'll think?


Entered at Mon Nov 16 03:23:36 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Waging War

What you quoted in answer to your first post regarding this upset, I was trying to be polite and in a somewhat lighter tone. YOU! had to carry this on Kevin. You are not accomplishing any thing, just venting. Give it a rest. I don't know what government you think is going to wave the magic wand and calm every body down. If you think you have the right government now, then shut the fuck up and let them do their job. It always looks easier from the cheap seats.

I've had those same thoughts for a long time Carl. What sort of chance are they going to have to sort this all out.

I have so much enjoyed the concept of "Playing for Change". Maybe Kevin can send some of the ISIS guys copies of the BAND cd's and they'll mellow out.

As you have said they don't think or act like us. They probably don't listen to music. Their only music is the sound of an AK 47.

In the video of "Redemption Song" one of the very short clips is a little (probably 12 to 14 year old) girl in India dancing to the song. She is beautiful and so sweet and innocent looking it makes you wonder why are not all those people that way.

Look back to hundreds of years ago, the days of Ghengis Khan, they were warring tribes and they will never change. It is reportedly about 50,000 people in ISIS. Is it not possible to put enough boots on the ground from all nations to eliminate them from the face of the earth? They are not even an endangered species.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 03:00:20 CET 2015 from (24.108.19.210)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: I Fear

I really worry about my grandchildren and their children to come. What the hell happened? Within 40 years, the world has become fucked.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 02:55:34 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

"Your points are well taken Kevin" - Norm

An hour later, I'm described as a loopy union activist ! Stop it, please. I was hoping we could have a sensible discussion and I was simply trying to make a few points about the thousands of innocent people that have been killed in drone attacks and bombings that don't get any tv coverage or songs played in their honour....and whose families are spit on and rejected as they flee their homelands looking for a new life........Don't ever think I am some sort of loopy lefty just criticizing everything and not caring about solutions or the victims of these crazed sociopathic terrorists.....The truth is I do not know what the solution is....What I do know is that the policies being followed in Syria have not worked and are not making things better and so it follows that doubling or tripling down on that policy is definitely not a solution.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 02:42:01 CET 2015 from (24.108.19.210)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Kevin J

OK Kevin. I'm interested to know your thoughts on how we stop terrorist attacks of any kind. What do we do now? Inviting these people into our home and lives doesn't work. They don't think like us. They don't rationalize like we do. They don't have that little voice in the back of their brains that say's, OK, I'm pissed off and angry but I think that I'll just listen to some music and calm down. Not in their vocabulary! This shit will, with out a doubt, come to bite us in the ass real soon.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 02:13:11 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: War - what is it good for?

Kevin, all your rhetoric seems to indicate that you see any of these acts of terrorism as only retaliation. That is absurd.

You have a lot to say about your stance on western governments and their position on dealing with terrorism. However you sure haven't offered any solutions.

You remind me of these union advocates I have put up with all my life, even when I was in unions. Spout off a lot about how wrong every one is but don't offer any positive help or solutions, just a lot of lip service and criticizing.

So every one should just stay at home and let the terrorists do as they will.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 02:08:30 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.78)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, what is the alternative to a large scale cooperative effort to seek out & destroy Isis? Are you suggesting just doing nothing & hoping they go away?

The fact is from the beginning of time, attacks & wars have always been waged. Sometimes the guise of the initial aggression was in the name of religion, sometimes there was no guise.Sometimes it was unashamedly about power, control, territory, etc.

The world, more civilized as we'd like to pretend, cannot escape old ways, & primitive thinkers or money & power mongers exist & do not go away.

These terrorists are the worst of the lot, & if they are not put to rest, will keep going till they have exterminated every male who is not a Muslim, & enslaved or murdered every female & child who is not Muslim.

And that is an obvious fact. The history of this Kevin, is not something that was caused in the last century or two alone. The history of this goes back to early times.



Entered at Mon Nov 16 01:12:00 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

.....and Peter, don't think it's just Europe......very shortly after our recently departed Prime Minister announced as he loved to do that Canada would be bombing Syria, we had a series of terrorist attacks that killed innocent Canadians including an attack on our Parliament buildings.......we all feel this but my point was that it all can't be sentiment and flags and PM's singing in French........I was reacting to the PIVOT that is already happening on BBC and CNN where all anyone is talking about is what a further escalation of war will look like...........It's absurd, a war as we know it cannot defeat terrorism of this kind......it will only make it worse......

I was in the UK when the government decided to not go forward with a military plan for Syria just a week or two ago....much to the dismay of some in the media......what are the odds, that stand will now be reversed.


Entered at Mon Nov 16 00:41:13 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

You've missed my point entirely, Peter. I just returned from Paris last Friday. I have family there and feel terribly about what happenned as any normal person would.......But let's not let the lump in the throat images get confused with politics and and bomb dropping and the indiscrimate killing of civilians that has been going on for too long........all because a Bashar al-Assad or a Sadam Hussein has fallen out of favour with equally reprehensible men like Tony Blair or George Bush or Dick Chenny..........So go ahead and tear up over the recent attacks ( I did worrying about my own family for several hours until contact was made ) but spare a thought for the 10x, 100x, 1000x number of people killed ( 2003-2007 ) when Iraq was made to pay for an attack they had nothing to do with and for those that will continue to be killed as governments knee-jerk react to this latest terrorist event..........oh, and as more and more wars are started and lands occupied, let's also remember to bar the refugees from coming to our home countries.......what's in the world could they be fleeing from ?


Entered at Mon Nov 16 00:01:37 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

OK, if we’re doing politics … read what they said. They targeted France because it was liberal, Western, like us. Young people at rock concerts, sitting in cafes, going to a football match. And I will say, Kevin, that criticizing France at this point is very, very poor timing. We've been allies for a century. They deserve our sympathy and support. It may be fine to sit in the comfort of 3000 miles away and criticise. In Europe it's all very near and I'm sure New Yorkers will feel the same as Europeans do. It’s a bit like Corbyn saying they should have arrested the guy behind the atrocities instead of using a drone. What do you do?, maybe walk into Syria with a couple of London bobbies (or as couple of Mounties in red jackets and hats) and serve him an arrest warrant?

When historians look back at the history of this era, Angela Merkl will emerge as totally misguided. While Greece, while really strapped for cash and resources, said it should fingerprint and record immigrant arrivals and did so according to EU rules, Merkl was “No. just wave them all through.” She’s set a time-bomb for Germany and as a result for all of Europe.


Entered at Sun Nov 15 19:17:49 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Madonna in Stockholm

I think the older we get and the more we've seen does not harden or toughen us..........the easier it is to make us cry. Last night at her concert in Stockholm, Madonna made a speech about her feelings on this Paris situation, and broke into tears. She was feeling guilty for dancing and singing and having a good time, while people greaved. However her conclusion that this is what the people want, just to cause hurt and pain, to stop is to give in. You can't argue with that.

I haven't been a great fan of Madonna, although I admire her as a shrewd business woman and a great performer and she does sing some songs I like. She showed her very emotional and human side.

Your points are well taken Kevin, but where do you draw the line? I'm sure that but for these terrorist actions, not France nor any other country would be dropping bombs on any country. France is not a warring country.

A couple days ago on CBC I listened to a program where a journalist in Italy was interviewed and gave the accounts of how the Sicilian mafia, and the Mafia in Naples controls the movement of these Syrian refugees. They are said to be making more money at this time from housing and moving these refugees than they do on drugs.

Yesterday I watched a documentary about Vladimir Putin, when he first returned to Russia, (unemployed) and the mayor of Petersburg hired him as his assistant mayor. His job was to obtain and import food for the people. All the money disappeared and the food never came. Since that beginning the amount of vice and corruption he has used to win his power is staggering. Over and over anyone who has been tasked to investigate any of his or his subordinates doings just gets killed. One man who was a KGB detective now out of the country in his interviews just flatly said "There is no law in Russia." 37% of the wealth in Russia is controlled by 110 people.

The point is "all" of these wars in those countries is over one thing "power" that's all. Blaming religious beliefs or any other excuse matters not. It's power that's all, and PEOPLE don't matter.


Entered at Sun Nov 15 18:43:48 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: These Things Count.......Yes, but....

Amidst all this sadness and moments of impression when people feel good about the painting of ice or grass surfaces at sporting events in the French flag, let's pause and think about the 1200 innocent mothers and fathers and children killed over the last few years in misguided drone attacks or the hundreds - possibly thousands of innocent people killed in Syria as a result of French bombs dropped over a country that never declared war on them.............of course, no western hockey or football team would ever think of decorating their arenas or stadiums in a Pakistani flag and to CNN or BBC or CBC, these people ( the innocent victims of bombs and drones ) really don't even exist......hell, their names are just too damn hard to pronounce and there are no cute "back stories" on them to fill out a story......BUT they all have mothers and brothers and children and grandmothers that hurt and remember everyone of these deaths..........Of course, the solutions being proposed and no doubt now supported by even the the most reasonable of the western governments in place to stand up to the 160 dead is to move forward with more bombing and more occupations. ........shameful all around.


Entered at Sun Nov 15 17:50:05 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: Correction: Eric Truffaz Quartet

Sorry, that is Eric Truffaz Quartet.


Entered at Sun Nov 15 17:49:04 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: Shut down of music venues

All concert venues in Paris are said to be shut down for the time being, according to something I read at a Deftones article. Deftones were to play the same venue (Bataclan) last night. When this will change, who knows. Eric Truffaz trio set to play in Paris Nov. 17.


Entered at Sun Nov 15 10:27:59 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Vive la France

I was touched to see that amazon.uk's page opens with a French flag and 'Solidarité.' Another moment was all those people filing out of the football ground and singing 'La Marsellaise." Even David Cameron ending his speech in French. These things count.


Entered at Sun Nov 15 02:20:33 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittnetly

Subject: RR: special

Kevin: You are describing the Robbie Robertson that my dad often spoke about at the Concord. He said that Robbie was different and was nothing like any of the other musicians he had met and they were a substantial number.


Entered at Sun Nov 15 02:08:26 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Rockin' Chair

"Most people are knocked out by younger people. I'm knocked out by older people. Just look at their eyes. Hear them talk. They're not joking. They've seen things you'll never see." - Robbie Robertson ( via PV's article at this site )

That fact that RR said that in his 20's and could write a song with the grace and depth of Rockin Chair while also in his mid 20's is mighty impressive. I've always felt the same way about Paul McCartney and "Eleanor Rigby".


Entered at Sun Nov 15 01:26:19 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: A show of commitment in a time of trouble

Trafalgar Square: Well done, UK.


Entered at Sun Nov 15 00:50:44 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Dark was the Night - Roberto Luti

This song originally played by, Blind Willie Johnson. I'm SURE if any of those old Blues Men could hear what this guy can do they would drool wishing they could do this.

Roberto Luti is able to (just with his fingers) make it sound like he is using an echo devise. You need to read the history of his career since he was found in N'awlins with Wash Board Chaz. He was deported back to Italy because of visa problems. The comments from the writer about this situation are quite funny.

In this video is Roberto Luti only.........listen!


Entered at Sat Nov 14 20:15:32 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Haso - Higher Ground

Haso, thank you for your input. Your comments are most welcome. I will look for that one. It's funny that your timing was just right. I was just listening to Gimme Shelter, and my thought was listening to , (in my head) Eric Clapton, Robbie and the Band doing that song. It seems to be a style reminiscent of their work. It is a wonderful sound with many very interesting instruments and again Roberto Luti's slide is warm and wonderful. In that vid you get some really good looks at the construction of that old guitar of his.

I realize what you say, and Peter said re (the booze and drugs is true.) I also have always admired Brown Eyed Angelina's resourceful research work. How ever I maintain my position that the "in your face" horrible reality of a man's addictions needn't be sensationalised. It's bad enough to know about it and remember it.

When I lay back with closed eyes listening to the absolute superb music coming from Richard's voice, I don't want to think about these things and that they over came him in such a catastrophic way.


Entered at Sat Nov 14 19:59:12 CET 2015 from (73.47.239.0)

Posted by:

haso

Location: Seacoast NH

Subject: comments on Chair

As an infrequent poster here, I've got to reply to Chair. Nevermind that his chosen name here has been my all-time RR song for the last 8 years or so. Probably because I'm getting closer to 73 than I ever was when the brown album 1st came out my soph yr in high school.

Anyway, I'm glad you've got onto PfC, Norm. That website has been a godsend for a long time, especially when I need to feel more upbeat about life. I recommend 2 things in addition to their original posting of "Stand by me": their version of Stevie Wonder's "Higher Ground" and, if they ever are up your way in the Canadian Pacific, go see their live band. We saw them a few years ago @ Berklee Performance Ctr in Boston w/ Grampa Elliot, Jason Tamba & a bunch of others; they're as good live as on cd/dvd. At least in my unschooled opinion.

I'd guess the Band's music is too topical for them, but maybe Robbie could be a guest like Keith or Keb Mo or Garth on keyboards for just about anything. The credits in Robbie & Sebastian's "Icons..." say that Sebastian helped @ PfC at some point. I'd be interested to hear Sebastian's take on that organization.

Your comments a week back or so, taking BEG to task for reprinting tales-of-the-road & drug abuse by a majority of our subject matter here: you're right that maybe we could move on, yet Peter V is also right that it seems to come w/ the territory. Given today's (at least here in Northern New England) epidemic of opioid abuse, you'd almost wish a simple list of all the musicians/artists, gone before their time due to similar issues, would be enough for current users to seek help. However, that's way too idealistic; even though we all know that list is quite extensive.

I always think one of the best comments on Richard was Clapton's reminiscence on the "Classic Albums" dvd about Richard's fragility & power. There's no doubt he was THE singer; I still think the best part of that dvd is Levon & John Simon listening to Rockin' Chair.


Entered at Sat Nov 14 19:17:07 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Roberto Luti

Roberto Luti, is the slide guitar player (Playing For Change) on Redemption Song. He is so good and tasteful he had to be researched.

He plays a vintage National dobro and was a street musician in Italy. He made his way to New Orleans, "the big easy" and hooked up with the wash board player. I have a page written about him I put it to my desk top, but can't find a way to link it. (We're all agreed I'm kinda stupid that way.)

There are a couple other youtube vids of this guy. His sound on that instrument of his is the softest, tastiest, mellow slide guitar I have even heard. A superb talent to enjoy.


Entered at Sat Nov 14 18:24:03 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Norm, way back in the 80s, I was speaking in Madrid. In the evening, my publisher took me to the flamenco “Carmen” by Antonio de Gardes, one of the best things I’ve seen on a stage anywhere ever … including music and theatre. They had three acoustic guitarists sitting on the side of the stage, as participant guitar players for the flamenco troupe. The one in the middle was beyond “incredible.” Then they announced the names at the end during the standing ovation … Paco de Lucia.


Entered at Sat Nov 14 18:10:26 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Redemption Song

So won't you help me sing another song of freedom,

It's all I ever had..........Redemption song......


Entered at Sat Nov 14 18:05:32 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Josef Conrad

Norm : the link was a mistake. sorry... I was trying to say the Josef Conrad had it right.


Entered at Sat Nov 14 18:03:04 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Paco de Lucia

This very famous flamenco guitarist, I found again thru' my wanderings with Playing for Change on searching Nino Josele, (who plays on Redemption song). Paco was the hero of guitarists like Eric Clapton. They called him the "monster" guitar player. If you listen to any of his youtube vids. I remember him although I don't watch a lot of Flamenco. Well I didn't realize he died last year.

Jerry your link didn't work for me. To me the war video games are shameful. That people should make so much money from promoting such violence is wrong.


Entered at Sat Nov 14 17:49:50 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Web: My link

Subject: Paris

The horror! The horror!


Entered at Sat Nov 14 17:35:20 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Have a Nice Day

Bassman Lee, a very good job young man. You have spoken eloquently about these subjects and I appreciate your position.

This expression "have a nice day" is too often used sarcastically and is demeaning and insulting.

Jerry, these acts of violence as in Paris, I expect are especially hard for you after what you have had to live with. As we speak our boy Ken, (Susan's son) who is a millright in Estevan, Saskatchewan, him and his wife are leaving for Isreal and Turkey. Susan is beside herself this morning. Susan is one of those people who I call a "prophet of doom". She always has to look at the worse possible happenings. As we sit by our fire having our coffee this morning the snow is creeping further down the mountains across the inlet from us. It is winter!

Yesterday evening I received a call from my dear friend Peter in Tasmania. He just had his eye surgery for cataracts which I am waiting for my call to go and have. It's time for me to get away to see Peter. It's summer in Tasmania. I'll enjoy that..


Entered at Sat Nov 14 16:25:19 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Inhumane

Peter V: I have never understood the fascination with these games. I missed it. I play NO games of any kind and never have. I watch these kids do this and try to keep an open mind. Games and movies don't make people do inhumane or inhuman acts. But there is a lack of sensitivity!. In my view, these games of war and killing are obscene in their own right. I'm no pacifist but I wouldn't want my kids to accept that they can do these things to people, even in a game. It's hard to express how I really feel about this, but as I watch the events of Paris of yesterday, Peter, your words ring true.


Entered at Sat Nov 14 15:06:02 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Funny, I just clicked on Bassmanlee's link, and of course got a 15 second YouTube advert for Play Station 4 and a game called "Call of Duty" with the Rolling Stones Paint It Black accompanying men in battledress running around with machine guns. Why the fuck doesn't anyone make the obvious connection between this short of crap and what is happening in the world?


Entered at Sat Nov 14 13:03:16 CET 2015 from (108.2.144.116)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA (That's Delaware)
Web: My link

Subject: Insomnia post!

The use of "hey" as a greeting or acknowledgement is, I believe, of Southern origin, now widely used elsewhere.

Terms of greeting or acknowledgement in the African-American jargon include “Hey, how’s it goin’”, sometimes dropping the “Hey”. As a white male, I find this useful as a cordiality in passing encounters with my darker brothers. Preferably spoken with eye contact and a nod. Sort of like the ritual Muslim greeting. I see you, I acknowledge you, I respect you, I am not a threat, and I don’t expect you to be a threat to me. The usual response is in kind, and no further interaction is expected, but may lead to a smile or in certain cases, a conversation. Admittedly a sad commentary on racial relations here in America.

Another Southernism is “Y’all”, which, this Yankee has adopted as very inclusive. “How y’all doing”, for example is gender neutral.

Increasingly “guys” has also become gender neutral. I have seen a waitress walk up to a table full or women and say “So, how are you guys doing tonight?” The old equivalent “gals” has fallen out of favor.

As to “No problem” as a response to “Thank you”, I have seen several rants and articles on this. While “You’re Welcome” may be more polite, what sense does it actually make? Many point out that the standard Spanish response (at least in the Americas) to “Gracias” is “No problemo”…no problem. I don’t know, as in, you did not cause me any extra effort? Turning this around, saying “Thank you” in itself implies that special effort has been made just for YOU? “Thanks” these days is really an acknowledgement that, hey, you did your job, you didn’t screw up or cause me any additional aggravation in my already difficult day.

Which leads to the top of my list of annoying verbalization, “Have a nice day!” or as now parroted by Wal-Mart cashiers, “Thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart. Enjoy the rest of your day.” No exclamation point there, because the delivery is flat as plate glass. George Carlin had a great riff on this. (See link.)

And let’s add to the fingernails-on-chalkboard list the corporate-induced policy of having the entire staff of an establishment chime out “Welcome to…(insert name of establishment here)” EVERY time a new customer walks through the door. This started in our area with a (pseudo)Mexican food chain of named Moe’s. Not only is this annoying to the customers but IMO demeaning to the employees, turning them into Pavlovian dogs. Bell rings, yell greeting to customer. This has now spread to the local drugstore (chemist for you Brits) and the haircut salon. I thought civilization was supposed to Evolve, not DEvolve.

Lastly, I enjoy the music links posted here. Since most of my listening is done at work where it is taboo to watch video, I have not been able to pursue the Play For Change thread, but enjoyed the samples of the new Dylan set, which made me go back and listen again to some of the previous bootleg series releases like the Witmark sessions and the New Self Portrait. Damn, one prolific bastard! My fave is still the Biograph set, which I guess was Bootleg, Vol. 1. For a guy who does not consider himself to be a big Dylan fan, I seem to have acquired a groaning shelf of his work. Go figure.

Peace to all and to all a good night/day!


Entered at Sat Nov 14 12:24:39 CET 2015 from (70.193.140.18)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Cutting Edge

The 2-disc compilation is definitely the best bang for the buck. It's bargain price offers a wealth of formative music.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 21:31:35 CET 2015 from (173.68.71.190)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Cutting Edge-2 Discs

Got it today.Nice to hear all these songs in one place with many hidden gems and nuances worth much exploring.More then 2 discs might have overwhelmed me.So far,I'm digging it a lot,although Like a Rolling Stone bored me till they screwed up!Bloomfield is scorching.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 21:13:24 CET 2015 from (24.224.128.101)

Posted by:

joe j

Guilty as charged. I frequently use "Hey" as a greeting. Might go back to that "Hey Boo". I don't know. "No problem" is standard because my clients expect that. I just have to deliver.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 19:38:07 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Historical Unrepairable damage

John! There was so much Marywanna smoked at Woodstock, it has caused "Global Warming" that can't be repaired and still they blame it on every thing else :-):-)


Entered at Fri Nov 13 19:29:48 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Woodstock

Simone Felice and Simi Stone are Woodstock area born and bred. I hope he gets that far!


Entered at Fri Nov 13 19:23:30 CET 2015 from (88.3.253.120)

Posted by:

defed

Location: missi
Web: My link

good music over here, for christians...


Entered at Fri Nov 13 19:09:36 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Faber are proud to announce SMALL TOWN TALK by Barney Hoskyns: the true story of the town of WOODSTOCK, mythical home of 60s rock and inspiration for the legendary festival, published on FEBRUARY 18 2016. Think 'Woodstock' and the mind turns to the seminal 1969 festival that crowned a seismic decade of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll. But Woodstock itself was over 60 miles from the site to which the fabled half a million flocked. So why the misnomer? Quite simply, Woodstock was already a key location in the Sixties rock landscape, the tiny Catskills town where Bob Dylan had holed up after his 1966 motorcycle accident. In Small Town Talk, Barney Hoskyns recreates Woodstock's community of brilliant dysfunctional musicians, opportunistic hippie capitalists and scheming dealers drawn to the area by Dylan and his sidekicks The Band. Central to the book's narrative is the broodingly powerful presence of Albert Grossman, manager of Dylan, The Band, Janis Joplin and Todd Rundgren - and Big Daddy of a personal fiefdom in Bearsville that encompassed studios, restaurants and his own record label. Intertwined in the story are the Woodstock experiences of artists as diverse as Van Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Paul Butterfield, Tim Hardin, Karen Dalton and Bobby Charles. Drawing on first-hand interviews with the remaining key players in the scene, and on the period when he lived there himself in the 1990s, Hoskyns has produced an East Coast companion to his bestselling L.A. Canyon classic HOTEL CALIFORNIA – a richly absorbing study of a vital music scene in a revolutionary time and place.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 18:16:15 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

In the mid to late 60s, looking for cheap accommodation in London, the cards with adverts (and even signs in windows) had "No blacks, no Irish, no hippies." Always in that order. As Phil Lynott used to say he was screwed on that three times over.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 18:10:58 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: AwwHaw!

Well now there you go see! "Grody" an expression I heard a lot before, never gave it much thought as it was not something in my vocabulary. So it must have been some one's ridiculous variation of your Grotty. Can't you people just speak plain English :-):-)

Last night on Seinfeld was again that crazy show where Jerry & George end up in a limo posing as some poor Irish soul "O'Brien who has been set up as the leader of the Arian movement. George gets set up reading some speech he is supposed to give putting down the "inferior" Jewish people and the other sub human races. I immediately thought of Jerry, Landmark and the others from that quarter. Only Seinfeld could get away with that.

The old proverb holds true, "I can kick my dog, but you can't." Back to my Mel Brooks days of "Blazing Saddles". OK! we'll take the n----rs and the J--s but we don't want the Irish. So stupid it has to be funny.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 17:33:26 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

In British service situations, you'd have to get over an aversion to "No problem", Kevin. I hear it daily. It really has filled a gap, because our traditional response to "Thank you," was "Thank YOU". Then American companies like MacDonalds and Starbucks introduced "You're welcome" scripts for servers, but they sounded American to British servers, so "No problems / No worries / No worry / No hassle" took over.

In fact, I'd say "No problems" was the polite end of the four possibles.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 17:28:15 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It sounds more like "grody" but that's the "warder" v "water" - American D to British T, apparently. I think it's even transcribed as "grody" but originates in grotty.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 17:15:19 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Mispronunciation again

In fact, I though she was saying 'grody'


Entered at Fri Nov 13 17:08:35 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Valley Girl

Moon Zappa mispronounces grotty on Valley Girl, I think. Or rather the California version is different to the British one. She says SO gr-oh-tee, where British is grotty. Grot rhymes with not, not groat.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:54:47 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Words of the prophet

In the words of Bob Marley:

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery,

Non but ourselves can free our minds,

Have no fear for atomic energy,

'Cause non of them can stop the time,

How long shall they kill our prophets,

While we stand aside and look,

Some say it's just a part of it,

We got to fulfill the book.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:45:41 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Torturing the English language in other ways

And then there are mispronunciations. The most vile (as used often by many politicians including Mr. Bush II )--'nucUlar' /for 'nuclear'.



Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:43:20 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Completely Rude

I hate the word "Dude" with a passion! Now when some one wants to be REALLY rude and says to me "Listen Dude" they got to know they are going to get a slap up side the head.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:41:20 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: what comes out of the mouth...

I was in Europe recently and going to a number of cities and towns. As you know, there are statues everywhere.

From the guy next to me while I'm in a square comes the following: "Oh, look at that, another dude on a horse".

I loved it.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:33:32 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Another frustrating one that seems distinct to just some parts of the US - in my experience California - is "uh-huh"........say Thank you to a hotel receptionist and the standard reply instead of "You're welcome" is "uh-huh"

We must also seperate the strange or annoying phrases ( dude, grotty, sick, etc. ) from the clearly rude. "No problem" is rude in almost all it's applications.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:23:03 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hunh?

What's a dictionary :-)


Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:16:30 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: From a dictionary Norm

grotty |ˈgrätē| adjective (grottier, grottiest) Brit. informal unpleasant and of poor quality: a grotty little hotel. • [ as complement ] unwell: if the person feels very grotty, it is probably true influenza.

Zappa's daughter speaking: 'Grotty to the max'.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:11:11 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Assimilate

Calvin, it's the same as "trust me". It's just a dumb habit. Like the gawd damn news journalists on radio or tv that constantly say aaaah or uuuum. Some have the habit so bad you have to shut them off. You'd think people who do a lot of public speaking would improve themselves to sound more coherent.........gawd!

Thanks Peter M I have never heard that before. Now I gots to think up some way to use that on Jerry T. Like he just bums me out...............you know what I mean ......man??


Entered at Fri Nov 13 16:02:51 CET 2015 from (65.189.212.146)

Posted by:

Calvin

One that always gets to is "Well, to be completely honest" or some variation of.

The suggestion of course is this person usually lies to you.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 15:53:39 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: No problem

"No problem" is pretty standard in Britain, because we never used to say "You're welcome" and the British equivalent was "Not at all" which sounds terribly formal. Recently, I hear "No worries" more frequently than "No problem". According to some this is an Antipodean import because of the number of backpackers doing a few months as waiters in London. It's spread very fast. For our Australian / NZ readers, do you think that's true?


Entered at Fri Nov 13 15:42:58 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Bob Dylan-Allen Toussaint connection, plus a tribute by Robbie Robertson

Freedom For The Stallion - 1985, written by Allen Toussaint


Entered at Fri Nov 13 15:33:01 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thanks for info Jon. I didn't know that Robbie had inducted Allen Toussaint into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

I had posted "Stand By Me" Playing for Change when it first came out. However, "Redemption"......Totally dig the slide guitarist from Italy and keep playing it over and over.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 14:49:12 CET 2015 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: RR on Allen Toussaint

Robbie's Facebook tribute to Allen Toussaint at the link.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 10:57:15 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Yo, bro

I hear 'Yo' a lot in the UK and also 'Yo, bro" (from white people). It's moderately recent, and seems especially popular with 30-somehings, NOT teens. That might date its popularity.

On the other linguistic point, my 2 year old grandson has been slow to start speaking and has suddenly burst into constant chatter. His first thirty words include T-Rex, Star Wars and The Dark Outside (a confusion with Star Wars is in there somewhere). The Dark Outside is "scary" again an Americanism kids never used to use in the UK. This might tell us something about word frequency.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 10:52:53 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Thea Gilmore

The second singer-songwriter review in two days. Thea Gilmore is linked.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 03:28:49 CET 2015 from (66.249.83.100)

Posted by:

tracy danko

Location: Your dreams

The Band are amazing. True musicans. Love you, Rick.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 03:04:35 CET 2015 from (108.16.242.238)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Subject: problem accessing GB

Don't know why I got that dead link, but I'd tried to send a GB message to Norm. Mentioned that "grotty" was Beatlemania-speak for grotesque. Mentioned that, although I'm from near Phila, I tend to say "Hey" instead of "Yo". I think it's a Southern low key greeting. I first grew to like it when I heard Scout, in the film "To Kill a Mockingbird" say, "Hey, Boo" to Boo Radley. Later (early '70's) I heard it used by low key hip types as a version of "hello". And interestingly, dogs respond really nicely when you say "hey" to them.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 02:51:12 CET 2015 from (108.16.242.238)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Subject: problems signing the GB

I composed an entry and hit the "preview" tab. It takes me to a page that just says "Link". Click on it, and it says "Scram".


Entered at Fri Nov 13 01:27:39 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: The Beatles best number one

On a more uplifting note ITV did a pretty decent 2 hour programme with some previously unseen video footage/celeb interviews showcasing 27 transatlantic Beatle number ones to find their viewers favourite. From Love Me Do to Come Together and back again. Simply breathtaking. Hopefully the link can be accessed over your side of the water.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 01:20:03 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Small pool - v- Big pool

Sort of loosely connected to the demise of our shared mother tongue - take a quick peak at the viewing figures on You Tube for the linked song by someone called Majer Lazer. It's evidently the most downloaded song ever.

Only 226 million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God help us all.

:-0)


Entered at Fri Nov 13 00:42:45 CET 2015 from (184.66.163.29)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: Like, you know

Like, you know, this list is growing, you know.

Joan: You know is grating when one hears it over and over again.

What are we going to do about 'like'. I ride the underground a lot in Toronto and the kids speak loudly and it drives me nuts.


Entered at Fri Nov 13 00:03:23 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Simi Stone review

Review of SIMI STONE from The Duke and The King, and recently on the last two Natalie Merchant albums. See link.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 23:42:03 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

"like" as a hesitation device (replacing um, er or ah) is among the twenty most frequent words in English, and now higher in frequency than "like" as in "I like The Band" or as in "Workingman's Dead is a bit like The Band."


Entered at Thu Nov 12 21:25:44 CET 2015 from (72.69.100.142)

Posted by:

Joan

I really get annoyed when people use "you know''all the time. I realize that it's a stop when you don't know where to continue. A sound break as it were. This is the 14th time they said you know in the middle of a conversation I feel like screaming at them I don't know, you know I mean


Entered at Thu Nov 12 20:32:15 CET 2015 from (99.16.133.205)

Posted by:

Adam

Jan - each of the 4 shows was exactly the same except: 12/29 "Loving You" played as last encore. 12/31 "Strawberry Wine" cut. 12/31 Dylan encore.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 19:41:14 CET 2015 from (84.215.171.237)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: RoA set lists

We need the complete and correct set lists for each of the shows at the Academy of Music in New York City, from December 28 through December 31, 1971. Anyone?


Entered at Thu Nov 12 17:53:03 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Music & Memories

I have so enjoyed the music of the "Playing for Change" youtube videos the last couple days, it has sparked some memories and questions in my head from long ago.

First of all when I was about 20 I had a real good buddy from Jamaica.......his name was Dennis Jones. Dennis was the blackest! black man you'll ever see. We used to tell every one we were brothers :-) He had that Jamaican accent and dialect that is hard to understand. Back then I never thought much about it.

When Bob Marley came on the scene and particularly his "Redemption Song" it becomes more clear. The words me and my are not in their vocabulary. So my wondering is how that came about. Those people always refer to themselves as "I".

In his lyric:

The pirates they did rob I, sold I to the merchant ship

Minutes after they took I from the bottomless pit.

It took me quite awhile to learn he was referring to those dungeons like in Sierra Leone in "La Amistad".\ I mention this because it brought back this memory that has stayed with me all my life.

In 1963, the second time I came to work here to the logging camp at Mahatta River with my brother I had this experience. My brother and I worked for part of the time loading logs from the water onto the log barges them. There was a big loading machine on the beach my brother operated. I operated a small steel tug called a dozer boat pushing the logs to him to lift with the grapple and swing onto the barge.

These barges way back then were old deep sea ships, (Libian Freighters). These logging companies bought these old ships, removed all the house work and welded flat steel decks on them to load logs on. One day not long after I started working there with him, Howie says, "come on I got to show you something". We went down into the hull of this old ship right into the stern. All around the hull were welded steel bunks and they were inside steel bars just as you see in jail cells. Howie says, I was told in the late 1800's these were slave ships. Now I don't know that is really true, but it stunk down there so bad it was unbearable. I never got past the thought of those poor souls that may have been down there and what they were put through. Watching that movie "La Amistad" reminded me of what I had seen and it is something you don't forget.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 17:52:16 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Sometimes, new phrases or phrasing can fun....usually only for a short period but fun nonetheless. I recall distinctly waiting in a lobby of a building in Toronto about 15 years ago and a girl was next to me with a phone to her ear.......she was listening and seemingly growing more exasperated as time went on........finally, she said "I am soooooo not going to Hamilton"

Funniest ones are when new speakers to a language adopt slang phrases.....60 year old Eastern Europeans using "Dude" or kids on a bus dressed in school ties and jackets talking like ghetto kids.......or anyone over 20 using a term like "sick" to complement a great athletic performance.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 17:18:48 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Pondering

What in the fuck does "grotty" mean :-)???????


Entered at Thu Nov 12 16:57:54 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Additions to annoying verbal communications

"No problem" and "Trust me" are excellent additions to an annoying verbal communication list.

Hey you. Im like overwhelmed by this list. Trust me. I'll let you go now since I know you're busy. No problem. And to be honest with you, I've got things I have to do now. But this list is awesome. Grotty to the max!


Entered at Thu Nov 12 16:35:58 CET 2015 from (67.84.78.19)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

As my grandmother insisted - Hey is for horses.

On that note, I'm back out the door to deal with the multitudes. Kevin, i got to send you guys some news paper links. Cause, this is one wild place. Along with all the fun you can have , the murders and crime is off the charts. Just a bout week ago now, In about a week period there were about 12 or 14 murders and several randomn stabbings and cuttings here. Two people were stabbed randomly in brooklyn, violently, separate occurrences, and another guy on the train got his face slashed open in a few places by some nut with a box cutter. No connection between the cutter & cuttee. guy just went off. so, you gotta be careful all the time, but life goes on and you can have a balst. but, you gotta be on your toes. So sometimes it takes little efoort to get a conversation goign with a stranger, sometimes it taakes a little more, but if you sense the person don;t wanna talk, you leave em alone, cause they may come out blazing. ad then there's alos the other side, when you are the talkee..... but, it's generally just life and can be really a blast if you let it happen. and don't get your ass handed to you.

Al Edge, a good fucking morning to you! :-) Jerry. OY, i'm gonna go to that thing.IT's huge! Like i always say: A BIG FUCKING OY!


Entered at Thu Nov 12 16:35:33 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: JT - Verbal communication annoyances

Winner by a country mile ? Hands down to me,the all time annoying one is: "No Problem", in place of "you're welcome"


Entered at Thu Nov 12 16:32:25 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Pet Peaves

I'm generally in agreement with you Jerry, but my number 1 & 2 are. 1). WHATEVER! 2). Trust me! I gawd damn near want to choke any one who says "trust me".

I explained before what the definition of stress is!

When your mind has to overcome your body's uncontrollable urge to choke the living shit out of some fool who really needs it!


Entered at Thu Nov 12 16:22:05 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Verbal communication annoyances

Verbal communication annoyances: 1) Like 2) hey or hey there 3) awesome 4) whatever 5) I'll let you go now (as if the other person has any control on the phone of whether or not I wish to continue the conversation) 6) to be honest with you (when are you dishonest with me?)

Like - wins by a country mile! Since Zappa and 'Valley Girl' and valley talk, it has crucified the English language communications among the young and is slowly but inexorably creeping into our collective conscience.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 16:06:31 CET 2015 from (24.114.54.192)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Al......you're right. "Hey" and "Hey There" seemed to become standard greetings overnight dating back a decade or so. I have thought the origins or at least the big influence was from the TV hit show "Seinfeld", though I might be wrong on that.......anyhow, it annoys me, especially when receiving an e-mail that starts with "Hey There"

Thanks, Jeff.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 15:34:09 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: The downloading debacle: update

Update on downloading tracks: The latest message, received and confirmed by many, is that those responsible are aware of the many issues limiting and defeating ability to download 'Cutting Edge' tracks and that soon (?) there will be sent out a new e-mail with information that will solve the issues and facilitate downloading with a new link (my words interpreting what I have read). Sad but true.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 12:07:07 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Playing for Change

Al, have a look at the others I linked. Particularly "Redemption Song" Read about it and you'll understand. This has been going on since 2002. Don't know why I've never picked up on it.

Not just playing for change in your pocket on the street, playing to unite the world with music and make change and PEACE. What a wonderful concept.

On the other videos all the folks names are displayed.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 11:41:55 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Change

Norm - wow - who they mate?

Too Beautiful.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 11:28:04 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: 10,000 light bulbs, Natalie Merchant, Molly Ringworm et Yo

You suddenly realise how far your own feeble brain has strayed out of the loop when Pete, Mike and others on here revel in the joy these names incite within them yet the same names don't prompt so much as the merest flicker of recognition within the dying embers of your own once alert bonce.

Nice videos though!

And yet ...YO...now that really does evoke an instant connection. You reckon it's that instinctive Brooklyn/scouse thing eh Jeff lad. Or is it just me watching too many Sylvester Stallone movies?

:-0)

On the same tack is it me or does everyone in nearly every recent movie/TV drama now greet each other with "Hey"

:-0)


Entered at Thu Nov 12 03:56:38 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: A Change is Gonna Come - At Folsom

A change is gonna come was discussed quite a bit here recently. No one mentioned this. Not even Sam Cooke who is one of my all time heroes did this.

These people have that feeling that we have all, always appreciated with the BAND. This kind of thing belongs here.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 03:51:55 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Mechanics.

In case it wasn't obvious, here we grew up calling a lot of skilled workers "mechanics." You had siding mechanics, and window mechanics. Which in most other places i've been were called " siding installers", window installers.. Today, out of habit, most of us would still refer to a great computer repairman as a great mechanic. i imagine a elevator mechanic is a elevator mechanic anywhere. But in genral, the word mechanic here was never limited to vehicle or elevators. If you were skilled with your hands and knew how to use your brains at the same time, you were a good mechanic. But plumbers were plumbers & electricians were electricians. But i think we called boiler repairmen boiler mechanics.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 02:37:26 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, here in NYC the trains & buses get a work out. Tonight on the way home just now, again on the F train to the Q train ( i must have been on 7 or 8 trains today) I spoke to some Eastern European carpenter and almost asked to take his and his buddies picture. I;ve noticed many various kinds of mechanics running around with heavy tool kits on the trains these last three years I'm home. I was never much for mass transit before, but i always did get some good experiences out of using it when i did.
anyway, i had been noticing guys that probably worked on computers and print machines soemtimes movign their tools around Manhattan. the last couple years, more so the last one, i;ve seen a lot of Eastern Europeans , and some hispanic blue collar guys, some ORiental,s takign their tool buckets, tool bags, and Tool cases on the trains. Going into Manhattan, or many parts of Brooklyn & Queens now, you just can't get parking. And a lot of these guys don't have vehicles, they work for general contractors, and it may be a case of either going right to the job, with a hour or more commute carrying your tools , or going the bosses location, carrying your tools, then on a truck to the job. Could take a lot longer. Tonight i was getting on an escalator, and one Slavic or polish guy stopped and indicated to me to go ahead of him. He had two tool cases. I said hey man, we 're egttign there the same time anyway (his buddy was ahead of me anyway with two tool buckets, there wS NO GETTIGN AROUND HIM). THEN I ASKED HIM, mAN, YOU GOTTA TAKE YOUR TOOLS WITH YOU EAcH WAY EVERY DAY, RIGHT? if YOU LEAVE EM AT THE JOB SIGHT THEY'RWE GONNA WALK. he SAID YES. and i told him ABOUT HOW WHERN I WAS A siding roofing, and wndow guy, i more often than not took all my equioment hiome every night. Soem siding jobs, we'd leave the pump jACKS UP, PUMp THE PICS( ALUMINUM WALKBOARD) ALL THE WAY almost UP TO THE soffit,, chain eveything with about 4 or 5 case hardned steel chains and heavy duty locks, and the wlak down the ladder, and take the ladder home with all our handtools.. But i didnt do that too regularly. So, Kevin, here in NYC the trains take a beating, and people deal with each other all fucking day long. More morons on the trains now than ever before, and i gotta hold my tongue all the time. but every now and then i gotta say somethign too. And when you say it, you gotta say it like you're Rodney Dangerfield with a big smile on your face or like you're gonna kill the person, or you might get killed . ..But there's also a lot of good people and i get into good, funny conversations all the time. I've made plenty of friendships and had relationships that started on the train, & on the street. NYC, it happens all the time.not just to me, to everyone with a brain & a personality.. still you gotta be careful and we all have our built in radar or vetting process. but Kevin, there is a still alot of action on the street here in NYC.


Entered at Thu Nov 12 02:10:03 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Kevin, i got tons of stories that i think you'd love, and they're mostly uproaringly funny. But for the obvious reason i'd probably never post them here. I start to, quite a few times over the years,, and then say - hey fucko, you must be out of your mind to even consider doing that. Hppefully i'll get to write em all down before i'm completely senile.

Lee, Philly is a Yo city too, no doubt about it. But honestly now, the kids coming up knowing Yo in Philly, i cant imagine them delivering it well, or even appropriately. The kids, white, black, yellow, tan, regardless of the country they or their parents come from, here included, pre teens and teens, and even people in their 20s and 30sthat use Yo here, well, it's more often than not "Yo nigga" and offered with a slur, no elocution, no nothing. And that n word is just plain old disgusting and sorry, and it's constant use is just one symptom of an ailing, aimless society. The word Yo deserves a proper delivery. thank God, some of my odl friends are still around. I can still count on Charles for a good Yo Moe, or a Yo Tonto. His other name for me. This is the kid that he and he and his father worked for me for a long time. He, me , and his pop,still brothers to this day. Amongst NYers of say 40 or 45 and up, Yo still gets used correctly frequently, without thought to it..

BTW Jerry, that article you must have read in the Times, I linked it. the frigging writer is a moron. I;m gonna have to take him to task. I didn' treally read the article, glanced at it yesterday and again this morn after reading your post but i can imagine how the thing must be if the opening line was enough to make me crazy.

"The rude interjection is a staple of New York life." Fuck no it ain't no rude interjection. What truck did this writer fall out of? You want to write about NYC and NYers, at least have a solid understanding of what & who you are writing about. This moron been here a couple of years and obviously hasn't learned too much.


Entered at Wed Nov 11 23:10:35 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Favourite Moment in Time

Thanks Joe, that was fun.

My favourite Band moment in time was watching Richard at that concert in Calgary, (Festival Express), sing Rockin Chair.......those two old sailors.

Not hard to figure out why my yacht is named "Rockin Chair".


Entered at Wed Nov 11 21:45:57 CET 2015 from (24.224.128.101)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Toussaint

Link is to Wild Tchoupitoulas (produced by Allen).

Thanks Norm for link to 'Redemption Song'.


Entered at Wed Nov 11 21:18:19 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I love these slices of life stories, Jeff. I was going to go to town with some jokes about riding an F train and approaching young female tourists but not really appropriate in this case. Sometimes I think the whole world is just riding in cars from one underground garage at home to another in the city at work......and that's too bad.


Entered at Wed Nov 11 21:03:12 CET 2015 from (96.245.114.250)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Yo

Don't worry, Jeff, 'Yo' is alive and well and living in Philly.


Entered at Wed Nov 11 19:05:57 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.7)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Hey JT, the OY YO installation is one installation that makes sense. Whether or not I'd consider it artwork in more than a mechanical & skillful way, i'll hold out on that one till I go see it. But, Yo, & Oy, for many decades & several generations, Brooklynites began saying those words the same time they began saying ma ma and da da. So it makes sense as an installation. Yo! to get someone's attention or just talking Yo, Lucy, Yo Vinnie. That was our word for everything from calling across an avenue, to just starting a sentence or conversation. Oy, everyone knows that one. so yeah it makes sense. I expect most dyed in the wool Brooklynites will kinda enjoy it but also have mixed feelings, and resentment towards it, But that's not to say that the installation won't get a lot of attention or celebration- i'm sure it will. Hopefully it might get alittle dialogue going abotu what's been and still being lost and buried... The installation,It's nice, and it's other things - but it's better to have it than not at this stage. Me, i'd prefer having more generatissn of Brooklynites growing up the way we once did, and Oy and YO being..well, Oy and Yo...

How people are reacting, i don;t really know, I just read about it for the first time two days ago, and it seems like it;s getting attention. But, you know, it's all kind of odd, cause there need be no idols to old Brooklyn, they shoulda just left alone. So it;s kinda like an acknowledgement of the fact that everything has gotten commercialized, knocked down, disrespected, and just used to make money in a different form. Th word Oy will never go away, but the word Yo, in all it's glory, proper accent, and with the correct force, delivery, gonna be a thing of the past very soon. Kids growing up here don't sound like Brooklynites no more, they sound like aliens. A business i frequent has a bout 6 or 7 women in their mid 20s and i;m amazed they sound like perfect Brooklyn girls, voices, accents, attitudes.

When i know more about that installation i;ll tell ya, but hey, though i;m in that area often enough, i still haven't even been in Brooklyn Bridge Park. I knew the Red Hook waterfronts some as a teenager, and in my twenties, and though the park is supposed to be beautiful, i haven;t had the courage to go there yet. i know all those multi million dollar coops buildings that went in to the old factories , worked some in a bunch of em in 08, 09, & the types that have moved in to those factory conversions, and see what changes the stores and businesses over there went through...SO i been- well, i been a little afraid of being disappointed by what i see 7 the people i meet in the park. But, hey, everything changes, and now i got a nother reason to go there. I'll let ypu know what i tihnk.

One nicer aspect of some of these changes- i meet tourists on the Brooklyn trains all the time now. I've met alot of scouses, and some peopel form Germany, Scandinavia, Manchester. Just about 90 minutes ago i sent about 20 minutes with two gals on the train, they were from Italy. Liek so many of these tourists , now they come and stay in Northern Brooklyn( mostly, some stay in SOuthern brooklyn), as opposed to Manhattan. These two gals were on the F train, and had a big camera, and tooka few shots out the train window... So i pretty much knew they were going to Coney Island, the last stop about 13, 14 stops from where they got on.. And the first thing i thought of was to tell em not to walk West of the baseball stadium. or North of Surf avenue. So i said, , excuse me ,that camera makes me figure you're from out of town and going to Coney Island , where are your from?....And that started it. They were from Florence, and completely knocked out by how- "HUGE" Brooklyn is. I gave em pointers, of course where to go for pizza, etc etc. this happens abut once or twice aweek. that part is nice...funny, i asked these two gals if they had family in Brooklyn, and they didn;t.. but they definitely understood the irony of Italians from Italy not having any relatives in NYC.

Gotta run. Excuse any typos.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Redemption Song

Bob Marley was discussed quite a bit here recently. I was compelled to link this PFC vid of this song, where you get to see Bob's son Stephen as well as Bob and all the others do the best of this song I've ever heard.

Rather than buying any more of Bob Dylan's material to make him richer, I'll be buying this DVD and CD.

Making change around the world with music is something I absolutely endorce and subscribe to.


Entered at Wed Nov 11 15:14:43 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: OY/YO

Jeff: Tell us about the local response to the OY/YO sculpture under the bridge (Deborah Kass). I read about it in NYT and had an initial positive response. It says much more than sculptures like AMSTERDAM in that city or BUDAPEST in that city. I'd take a photo under OY anytime!


Entered at Wed Nov 11 14:58:44 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: the bottom line

I doubt it. The bottom line, Peter, the bottom line.


Entered at Wed Nov 11 14:49:07 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bootleg Sessions 12

The help desk doesn't help either … mind you,by the time you've waited hours and fiddled about, it's easier just to rip the CDs into iTunes. I think they're catering for those afraid of sullying the set! All the pieces of printed tracing paper are easy to crease and there are three different sizes.

I started on CD18, as one would. Lost Highway, Blus Stay Away From Me, Wild Mountain Thyme, Young But Daily Growing … with Baez and Neuwirth … would fit right into the Basement Tapes.

If I was a King with Robbie is the unbootlegged one, and in two versions, but the tune while lovely, is close to recycled Queen Jane Approximately. He announces Sad Eyed Lady of The lowlands with "This is the best song I ever wrote." Erroneously, I think.

Do you think that Sony sent Joan Baez and Robbie a free copy?


Entered at Wed Nov 11 14:21:22 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: downloading Bootleg 12 from Sony

I've been reading at other sites about the difficulties with the download for the 18 cd set. Most who write have been totally unsuccessful. Some have been able to download a few tracks with interruption and ultimate failure. All in all, to date, there has been little overall success. For that price, it is clear that a 32 GB USB stick (it sounds from the writers to these forums that that would have been enough for MP3, though for wav and flac more would be needed) should have been included in the package with all the other materials. This would have avoided the entire mess Sony and anyone else associated with this has experienced. It will be interesting to see how this is managed and corrected.


Entered at Wed Nov 11 05:31:26 CET 2015 from (173.3.51.117)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Kinky Friedman Interview

Kinky talks alot about the Rolling Thunder tour with Dylan. And Warren Zevon.

Politics? "I’m supporting Bernie Sanders, because I want to see a Jew in the White House!” he says with a mischievous howl. “If he wins, it will be the first time a Jewish family moved into a place where a black family just moved out.”


Entered at Wed Nov 11 01:47:12 CET 2015 from (32.216.232.163)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Vol. 13 - The Tuning Tapes

You haven't lived until you've heard Bob tune his guitar in glorious 5.1 surround sound. If we're lucky they'll include a bonus disc of the sounds of Bob changing the ribbon on his typewriter. It's rumored that the unedited version, will include a flurry of expletives as Bob jams his finger on the semicolon key. That all sounds very appealing, but I'm only biting if they include it with the limited edition picture disc.


Entered at Wed Nov 11 00:08:38 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V

Just went to bobdylan.com and the 18 CD set is still for sale. Not sure what you paid in England; but with our sagging dollar the 600.00 price becomes 800.00. Then there would be tax and then cross border fees. Could end up costing us around 1000.00 here.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 23:29:01 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Knowing Sony, Todd, "limited" means until the next remastered version. Yes, Bootleg 13 is multiple CDs of Bob tuning his guitar.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 23:20:22 CET 2015 from (174.236.1.6)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Late to the party

Thanks Peter V. I haven't been keeping up with all of the new releases as much as I used to, although I have been collecting and enjoying The Beatles Mono Vinyl all analog reissues.

On the bright side, I suppose I've saved $600. Maybe will investigate the download version if the price ever drops. In the meantime, I will pick up the 6 CD box for now to scratch that itch.

Or I could just wait for next year's deluxe box set, which is rumored to be a collection of studio chatter interspersed with Bob tuning his guitar.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 21:33:39 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Todd, the physical 18 CD sold out ages ago. You can buy it as downloads, but apparently at full price, There were 5000 world wide.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 20:44:36 CET 2015 from (82.22.145.205)

Posted by:

Ian W

Subject: Dylan's "Big Blue Box"

I will not bore you with the ineptitude of UPS or the bizarre way that Music Today went about their business but the BBB arrived today. Mine is No. 4585, which is strange since, as I recall, Peter ordered his copy quite some time before I placed mine. It is a handsome beast but, in terms of playing the CDs, rather intimidating. When and how will I fit it all in, I wonder?

I've had exactly the same problems as Peter as regards the download. Apparently, the server got overloaded once they'd initially contacted people. Of course, he said sarcastically, nobody but nobody could have predicted that and prepared for it. Having tried and failed, their system thinks you've got it, so you therefore have to pay for what it thinks is your "second" copy.

Put simply, Sony failed to deliver the physical product in an efficient manner and is now failing to deliver the digital product at all to those of us with the box.

Is it any wonder that the music business is suffering so?,


Entered at Tue Nov 10 20:09:49 CET 2015 from (174.236.1.6)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Thanks Peter V. Sounds like the big box will sell out. I suppose time will make that decision for me as I'm not ready to purchase yet. It's the hotel room stuff that I'm really interested in. Just not sure of how many takes of Like a Rolling Stone I can justify as part of the price of admission.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 20:02:33 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I got the 18 set. #4,450 out of 5000, it says on the box. BUT you can download it. Allegedly you get a free download with the box but after 3 hours it gave up, and when I tried to resume, they wanted paying again. Due to being totally lost in the new Natalie Merchant, I am taking my time … just the hotel room stuff first. The earlier stuff (with Joan, I think) is VERY Basement Tapes.

The Alt Take (#11) of Like A Rolling Stone is on sale as a vinyl 45 too,


Entered at Tue Nov 10 19:48:36 CET 2015 from (174.236.1.6)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Bobby D

Thanks David P. I got it now. I actually have the 1966 release. Was hoping maybe more live marerial from that prolific period had surfaced for this new release. I'll probably go for the 6 disc version of vol. 12. Anyone here plumping for the 18 disc monster box?


Entered at Tue Nov 10 17:25:06 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Allen Toussaint

"Allen Toussaint is the truth of New Orleans music" - Robbie Robertson

LINKED a nice tribute to Allen that relates to his great association with The Band.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 16:59:37 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Player of the Year!

The players choice after voting by his peers is Josh Donaldson. I am happy to see him receive this award, I believe he earned it.

I apologise as I meant no disrespect to Peter Stone Brown or David Powell, or anyone else for their passion for their music of choice. However there is other things that have always sparked attention here.

I hope some of you take a minute to have a look at "Playing for Change" and what these people accomplish and why. Perhaps it has been shown here before when I wasn't around.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 16:34:08 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Live 1966

Todd: Sorry my post was confusing. Live tracks are not included in the Cutting Edge releases, except for the Collectors Edition that includes the 45-single of I Want You / Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues. That B-side Liverpool track is available elsewhere, however. I was trying to point out, albeit poorly, that during the Cutting Edge time period, live recordings were done. So, during that short time period of a year & a half, Dylan was recording live in addition to those studio sessions that produced three albums, along with all the outtakes and alternate versions.

Of course, the Manchester concert was previously released as the Live 1966, Bootleg Series 4. I do recall that Ballad of a Thin Man, recorded in Edinburgh, was included in the No Direction Home release.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 16:25:29 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

NOVEMBER 9, 2015
Bob Dylan and the “Hot Hand”
BY DAVID REMNICK
The New Yorker


Entered at Tue Nov 10 15:08:59 CET 2015 from (32.216.232.163)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Allen Toussaint

Sorry to hear the news about Allen Toussaint. Such a talent and added a lot of flavor to what the Band was doing.

I only saw him one time, but it was a good one. The taping of Elvis Costello's show at the Apollo theater in Harlem, with Levon, Richard Thompson, and Nick Lowe.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 15:00:00 CET 2015 from (32.216.232.163)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Mixing up the medicine

David P. which version of the Dylan release has the live tracks? I'm tryIng to decide which version to purchase. I'll probably go for the 6 disc version. The 18 disc set is a little too much for my budget right now. But I could be swayed if there is a substantial amount of live Dylan/Hawks not available elsewhere.

Regarding Molly Ringwald. The 1984, 1985, 1986 trifecta of 16 Candles, Breakfast Club, and Pretty in Pink, was a fine accomplishment, and captured some of the coming of age experience for teens in the 1980's. As someone who graduated highschool in 1984, those films were right in my wheelhouse.

I didn't know Molly Ringwald personally, but had the opportunity to photograph her in the late 1990's. She was a guest on a television Christms special that I was working on at that time. She was pleasant, professional, easy to work with and showed no signs of ego. Just a genuinely nice and sincere person.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 15:01:07 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Allen Toussaint RIP

Apparently he died soon after coming off stage. Link to short review of when I saw him in 2007 … time flies by so quickly. A really strong Band connection. RIP.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 14:47:39 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: No one knows...

No one knows the hell that occurs in a person's life. To focus on the ills of a person's existence and think somehow that we have any perception of what it was like is misguided. I agree that the demons that haunted and led to the demise of Richard Manuel are not anything we can understand. Leave it alone and in the past. Again.. the music, the talent, the awe-inspiring vocals...that's where the attention should be. What SNL did with its 1 hour show is sad..but that's TV. Motives? Who knows and really...who cares.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 14:45:50 CET 2015 from (173.68.71.190)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Alan Toussaint

I just read he passed away.Is that true? If so,what a shock.RIP to a great great musician.I last saw him at Love for Levon & he stole the show.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 14:26:34 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I saw Mavis with this band at Kitchener's Blues Fest as well as at our Jazz Fest. The other time was at our Harbourfront Festival with the Staple Singers including of course her pops. You can never go wrong catching any of her shows. When I had to get through something for four years; I listened to "Keep Your Eye On The Prize". And yes I got through......Thank you Mavis!


Entered at Tue Nov 10 14:14:58 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

I don't believe it's all for nothing
It's not just written in the sand
Sometimes I thought you felt too much
And you crossed into the shadowland

I see on the day Northern Girl will be in town maybe we can catch MAVIS!

"A popular hit at Hot Docs 2015, this spirited portrait of Mavis Staples shines with six decades of genre-crossing and perspective-changing music. Staples reveals intimate tales of her life onstage and off-from the Southern gospel circuit and freedom songs beloved by Martin Luther King Jr., to more recent chart-topping hits. Audiences will enjoy stirring renditions of “I’ll Take You There,” “Do It Again,” “Why Am I Treated So Bad” and more, alongside enthusiastic interviews with the likes of Bonnie Raitt, Bob Dylan, Chuck D and Wilco’s Jeff Tweedy. The joy of fandom from director Jessica Edwards is undeniable as the film weaves together archival footage, interviews and buoyant live performances to create a paean to the living legend. It’s exactly this open-heartedness that makes Mavis! accessible to all: the unconverted and the choir, alike."

Director Jessica Edwards will participate in Q&As on November 13, 4:00 p.m. and 6:30 p.m. and November 14 at 4:00 p.m.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 14:07:57 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

JohnD

Subject: Snafu

That should read Jessie Lee.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 13:55:50 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Rhythm Jimmy SNAFU

So I see the name SNAFU and all these memories of Situation Normal come back to me. Thank goodness for Toppermost; because I did not know the name of the keyboard player Pete Jolley. The song Jesse Lee was always my favorite. Played it over and over again on CHUM-FM in the old days. The two organ solos (at the time) reminded me of Garth. Again at the time I thought they sounded Bandish on that track. As time went on I think it was the structure of the song that made me feel that way. Went to Jolley's Wikipedia site. Not a mention of SNAFU. Downloaded Jesse Lee from iTunes. Thanks Jimmy for turning the lightbulb on.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 13:35:04 CET 2015 from (70.193.133.73)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Elephant in the Cutting Room

While various topics are swirling around here this week, I'm totally focused on the Dylan Cutting Edge release. Keep in mind also that, in addition to the recordings from three landmark album sessions, there are live recordings from the European leg of the tour with the Hawks. As chronicled in the liner notes from the Bootleg Series 4 Live 1966 release, Columbia recorded concerts at Sheffield, Manchester and London on a 3-track recorder, with tapes from Manchester having the best quality. At the same time, D.A. Pennebaker's film crew recorded audio on a state of the art Nagra mono recorder. An early sample of the live shows, Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues, recorded from à line feed from the Nagra at Liverpool, was released as the B-side of the 45 single release of I Want You from the Nashville sessions.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 11:27:07 CET 2015 from (88.208.1.138)

Posted by:

Daan Mors

Location: Oslo
Web: My link

Subject: Lifestory

Wow, that is a great site about this amazing band. I found a lot of useful information here. My dad loved it very much and I'm sure I listened to them before I could even walk =) Music always played in our house and one of the first impressions of music in my life is connected with The Band. If I remember it right, my favourite album would probably be Islands of 1977. The love of music, instilled to me by my dad, made me become a DJ, as my father once was. Music is beautiful! =)


Entered at Tue Nov 10 11:00:59 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Funny, yesterday I was talking to a young and very knowledgeable guy in a secondhand vinyl record shop (20s), and we were listening to Don Ellis, and talking about Miles Davis and Bob Dylan as two who changed music forever (he was arguing that no one else made such a giant step, I was arguing for Lennon & McCartney), and we drifted into The Band. He said he’d tried really hard but found the first two albums “dull,” BUT he loved Stage Fright and NLSC. He thought Stage Fright by far their best. That’s not an opinion I’d run into before. But it’s from a perspective where all the albums are “here” now with no need to think of a historical progression.

We’ve done the camera thing to death, and the links showed they focussed on Richard in Georgia, and not during the others on SNL, and BEG explained why in the Cathy Smith quote. As for drugs and alcohol, it’s all part of the story, I’m afraid. It's why The Band, in the end, under-achieved and broke up. But what they left was incredible and to be celebrated. Nevertheless, we still will think of what might have been.

As I’ve said on TLW, Festival Express and various TV performances, if you had the job of lighting and camera, you would really have struggled to give fair space to someone seated behind a large black piano at one side too. I find that a lot of the good B&W YouTube footage of bands from the 60s and early 70s is French or German TV shows, precisely because they overlit the whole studio so could show everybody. You can’t light a concert like that.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 10:37:12 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Celebrate?

I've gone mad Kevin? It has been explained here, (I thought), this site was to "Celebrate and honor" the music and work of the BAND.

So digging up more crap like this on Richard, (or anyone of them's) failings with drugs and alcohol is a real "celebration" of his life and talent and music.

Well then give the school teacher a gold star on her essay for digging up the shit about how many times Richard puked before going on stage. The man is dead, found by one of his friends in the saddest conditions of taking his own life from the torment of that junk. That's really something to celebrate and keep on the front page like the National Enquirer. That is sick!


Entered at Tue Nov 10 06:36:19 CET 2015 from (24.114.73.73)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Spellcasters...Bless your hearts......wherever you are.......Hurry home early - hurry on home - Boom Boom Mancini's fighting Bobby Chacon and Norm's gone fucking mad !


Entered at Tue Nov 10 06:00:41 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


Entered at Tue Nov 10 05:58:50 CET 2015 from (97.127.30.101)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: SNAFU

Link works for me, Chair. Maybe doesn't work outside U.S.A., I dunno. It's a link to Youtube, "Prairie Lullaby," from the album "Pottery Pie," by Geoff & Maria Muldaur. Sweet dreams!


Entered at Tue Nov 10 05:48:12 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: KINK!

What ever you did Jimmy it comes up, "This video is not available." Check your code, you must have "fucked up".


Entered at Tue Nov 10 05:34:03 CET 2015 from (97.127.30.101)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Web: My link

Subject: This one's for you, Chair


Entered at Tue Nov 10 05:21:56 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Norhtwest

Subject: Impressive!!!

Peter Stone Brown is only satisfied if the conversation suits him. Has to be the Band and Bob Dylan only! Dragging up material that is being, redone, revisited, re perfected.

Brown Eyed Angelina is popping up links to Richard singing that same song with his pumpkin on the piano that we have seen at least seven thousand times.............oh! good one. Tell the whole world over and over again his problem with drugs, how stoned he was, how drunk he was. Are you a sadist? Is this something nobody has ever heard before? WOW! what a great deal of "new" information. A great "lifting" experience.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 04:56:49 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

You're welcome Rhythm Jimmy.

Chasing The Dragon...Cathy Smith:

"When the house doctor arrived, he gave Richard a shot to counteract the heroin. The doctor's shot may have saved Richard's life, but it didn't exactly restore him to normalcy. As soon as he was well enough to move, he leaned over and threw up.

I felt nauseated myself and kept rushing to the bathroom, but nothing would happen. Richard, on the other hand, was sick to his stomach more or less continuously for forty-eight hours.

"Jesus Christ," Larry Samuels said the first time it happened. The he smiled at me. A real smile for the first time since Richard had forced them to take me on the tour. "Take care of him."

Even by the time The Band was supposed to tape their "Saturday Night Live" appearance, Richard hadn't recovered. The doctor said the had to stay in bed, but the show went on. We got him backstage and he propelled himself to his piano when the time came for him to perform.

"Don't worry," Richard croaked, "I can do it." the man who had been called the greatest white blues singer of the decade sounded like an old dying wino.

One of the numbers was to be Richard singing "Georgia On My MInd." The spotlight came on him. His face was deathly white and his hands were trembling so badly as he put them to the mike that his bones seemed to be vibrating. Garth Hudson played organ; Richard didn't have to touch his piano. He simply sat on the piano stool and began to sing. Richard's sweet perfect bluesy voice took control of the studio, sometimes soaring, sometimes threatening to falter, but always perfectly in control. When he was finished there was a frozen moment of silence - then everyone started to clap and whistle."


Entered at Tue Nov 10 04:52:38 CET 2015 from (97.127.30.101)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Web: My link

Subject: "Georgia on My Mind"

No one sings 'em like Ray, but this is most beautiful rendition I know. Sung just right, with an achingly perfect solo by Amos Garrett.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 04:34:21 CET 2015 from (97.127.30.101)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: SNL videos

Thanks for the links, BEG. Too bad the only Youtube vids of this performance are boots with shitty sound. Richard sure nailed "Georgia," didn't he?


Entered at Tue Nov 10 04:30:07 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and Stage Fright on SNL.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 04:25:11 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

...and Georgia On My Mind on SNL.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 04:19:35 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and Life Is A Carnival on SNL.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 03:49:28 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: "The Breakfast Club"

Anyone who doesn't like Molly Ringwall is not playing with a full deck anyway, (but that is shown over and over). The work that her and her peers did in this movie was outstanding.

With no props, special effects, or heavy story lines, these people very emotionally portrayed, "coming of age" and understanding your feelings and the respect of one another. It is a classic, and so is Mollie Ringwall, (along with her co-stars.)


Entered at Tue Nov 10 03:42:05 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Stand by me

Any of you who take the time to watch this music, make sure you look on the side bar to the right. Click on and watch "Stand by me". People from all over the world playing together.

This is what the world should be all about. This is the ultimate, and emotional!


Entered at Tue Nov 10 03:40:27 CET 2015 from (100.11.74.162)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love

Subject: re: Where's Richard

On the original broadcast of Saturday Night Live, Richard Manuel was featured with "Georgia On My Mind." It was the Halloween, and the Saturday before the '76 election and "Islands" wasn't out yet, and the camera during the song was mostly focused on him.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 03:38:22 CET 2015 from (98.110.49.157)

Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Molly Ringwald

What's wrong with Molly Ringwald? Many of us who were teenagers in the 1980's have fond memories of the John Hughes movies that she starred in.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 03:29:06 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Playing for Change

I think I figured it out I hope............


Entered at Tue Nov 10 03:25:21 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: PFC - "Playing For Change"

I don't know if any of y'all have seen this. This is from Mark Knopfler's Face Book site. This is so cool.

These guys are all over the world, playing together by the internet. Playing for change, they started up, and this is the best improve music you can find.

I tried to link this and unfortunately I can't make it work with my limited computer knowledge. This is a bunch of musicians all over the world playing, "Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay" together from countries all over the world. It's the damnest thing and it's wonderful. Hope y'all can pick this up somehow.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Trouble Me...The only song I really liked from 10.000 Maniacs' Blind Man's Zoo.
So when I saw this band in concert....The other songs just didn't resonate with me as opposed to the group not performing well.


Entered at Tue Nov 10 02:19:29 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I saw 10,000 Maniacs in 1989 at the O'Keefe Centre (now called the Sony Centre) in Toronto.. I didn't enjoy the concert at all except for the one song I taught and had some classes perform at school concerts......Trouble Me.

From Tiger Lilly I always listen to Where I Go because of the guitar work, lyrics and just easy going groove.

I forgot to attend last week......PARADISE IS THERE Bloor Cinema November 2/15

Paradise is There revisits Natalie Merchant’s multi-platinum solo debut Tigerlily, originally released in 1995. Merchants’ entire musical life is encapsulated in this very personal film, which digs deep into her music through live performances, archival footage and interviews. Her fellow musicians, friends and impassioned fans share how the songs of Tigerlily have influenced them over the past 20 years, and how the power of music itself affects us in profound, lasting and uplifting ways.

Special guest Natalie Merchant will introduce the film and participate in a post-screening Q&A.

Well, I go to the river to soothe my mind
Ponder over the crazy days of my life
Just sit and watch the river flow (In my youth it was the Grand River)

The mad pace, the hurry, the hurry
The troubles, the worries, the worries
Just let the river take them all away
Flow away, flow away


Entered at Tue Nov 10 01:08:15 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.56)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

But Mike, if we're alive when they publish, would you buy or even read Molly's Memoirs?


Entered at Mon Nov 9 23:48:30 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

That "poster" was me......what was I thinking.....actually, I do think there is a lot there, or was or might be.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 23:45:43 CET 2015 from (165.228.159.63)

Posted by:

RocKwiz

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Web: My link

Subject: The Last Waltz Revisited - Australia

Hi folks, we produce a live music trivia TV show in Australia which we also tour live. Our next venture is to revisit The Last Waltz as a live concert with some of Australia's best performers. We want to get in touch with anyone who was actually at at the Winterland Ballroom in San Francisco on November 25, 1976 so if anyone was there or knows of someone who was, please let us know here or you can post direct to our Facebook page from the web link here.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 23:27:44 CET 2015 from (64.229.236.80)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Pretty in Pinkishness

For shame, Jeff. I like Molly, the epitome of Seventies (it was the '70s, wasn't it?) innocence and youthful charm. And she's aged well, unlike -- well, me! And Norm likes her, too. So watch it, fella.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 23:11:56 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.56)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

On memoirs.It's not just old rock & rollers. I think our own Norm alluded to writing his ( imagine the editor and proof reader on that one, they might as well just give up, let norm give their fee to a good charity) , or maybe it was a poster suggesting he write them.... Norm, if that was you...Don't do it without me, i think you still got a song or two left to sing. At least one.

But just a week or two ago, one morning while i was doing some work with the news on in the background, Molly Ringwald was on one or two segments of NBC's news & morning show. I never cared for anything she did or was in, that i am aware of, and when she commented about something afterward she remarked that she was going to discuss it in more detail when she writes her memoirs. a big Oy Vey Es Mir to that. The Molly Memoirs. OY!


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Posted by:

Carmen

Location: Pa
Web: My link

Subject: Dire Straits

One of my all time favorites. Guitar is in the style of RR for sure. This is an album of Deep Cuts.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Ladybird

While we're on Natalie Merchant, iPads do not lie. This is my most played track of the last 18 months. "Ladybird" by Natalie Merchant (with Simi Stone on backing vocals). Listen through to the point where it goes Beatlesque!


Entered at Mon Nov 9 22:09:55 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin, you are right. 10,000 Maniacs don't pass the Grandmother test, but in deference to some of the ages here, perhaps we should call it the "Great Grandmother Test." Grandmothers may well be on to 10,000 Maniacs!


Entered at Mon Nov 9 21:58:20 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Ah…..John Lennon on mandolin with 10,000 Maniacs Unplugged…. now there’s a superstar ! Thank you, Peter. Lovely song but all joking aside, I really am not at all familiar with 10,000 Maniacs………Can’t argue with Youtube hits but surely they would not have been considered a full tilt mainstream act……….by the way, I watched the Amy Winehouse documentary on a plane over the weekend and while not quite in the “Beware of Mr. Baker” all-time A+ territory, it was very well done. Disturbing on so many levels but a reminder of how great a talent she was. Truly great.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: 10,000 Maniacs Unplugged

You might prefer this version.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: These Are Days, 10,000 Maniacs

Kevin, 1,123,000 hits on YouTube can't be wrong.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 21:19:47 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

This conversation reminds me of the “Grandmother test”…you know, where one cannot be considered a true superstar unless your Grandmother knows the name…….Grandmothers knew Muhammad Ali but not Smokin Joe, all Grandmothers knew Michael Jordon but almost none knew Scottie Pippen, Grandmothers knew The Beatles, not The Band…..Johnny Cash and not George Jones……Tiger Woods but not Vijay Singh………….as to 10,000 Maniacs, never mind Grandmothers, it might be difficult to find a mother, daughter, son, uncle or aunt that could name a single song by the band. I know I couldn’t.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I agree that Them are a LONG time ago - though great 45s. But does your criteria admit 10,000 Maniacs? Or indeed Fairport Convention v Richard Thompson? Or Sandy Denny?


Entered at Mon Nov 9 18:55:04 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Peter….I guess the qualifier would be “hugely successful” bands which would rule out a number of examples like Them and to a degree The Faces……and thinking about it, no question at all I would go for Paul Simon solo over S&G.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 18:39:52 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin, just read your comment while listening to the new Natalie Merchant "Paradise is There" where she has gone in and re-recorded all the songs from Tiger Lily. So can I add that solo Natalie Merchant is even better than 10,000 Maniacs? The 2014 "Natalie Merchant" album was my Best Album of 2014. Both albums have Simi Stone from The Duke & The King on additional vocals.

I have a ticket for Simi for Wednesday evening!

And obviously Van Morrison is more pleasing than Them.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 18:27:31 CET 2015 from (76.71.4.249)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Interesting topic and offhand, I can think of only two performers that were in hugely successful bands that if given a choice of only having solo or band material to listen to, I would pick solo – no questions at all. Don Henley and Mark Knopfler. Like JT, I saw MK open for Dylan a few years back in Toronto and then the next night in Montreal. Brilliant both nights……..and the Toronto one was funny because some folks were yelling for Dire Straits and after the first song or two, Knopfler responded “You know all those songs you’re screaming for…….we’re playing none of them tonight”…………………………this jogs another memory of how the Dylan show had 6 or 7 or 8 different songs ( not sure exactly ) on back to back nights…which was great and very much unlike this tour.

That all said, "Sultans of Swing"......is one of only 4 or 5 rock n roll songs in my life where I can remember exactly where I was when I first heard it and remember it so well because it had such a huge impact on me in so many ways. Love it as much to this day....the 2nd album too but after that not so much.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Mark

"Brothers in Arms" Jerry. I've been a fan of Mark's since the early days when him and his brother started Dire Straits.

I expect you knew too, his father was a Hungarian Jewish man who had to flee in 1939.

I particularly like the work he did with "Emmy Lou" on the "All The Road Runnin" tour. I have the CD and DVD.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 17:12:06 CET 2015 from (131.137.34.213)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: everybody's doing it

Another in a bumper crop of rock-star memoirs . . . see [My link] for a sample of the Elvis Costello autobio.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 16:11:08 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson...the Children's Book by Sebastian Robertson: 10-Page Preview

Indian Country Today Media Network


Entered at Mon Nov 9 15:56:26 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Call Me Levon

By Ken Gordon


Entered at Mon Nov 9 15:47:38 CET 2015 from (174.91.166.105)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Established in 2006, American Indians in Children's Literature (AICL) provides critical perspectives and analysis of indigenous peoples in children's and young adult books, the school curriculum, popular culture, and society. Scroll down for links to book reviews, Native media, and more.

First thoughts on Robbie Robertson's HIAWATHA AND THE PEACEMAKER

Debbie Reese: "When I get a book written by a Native person, my heart soars with delight."

"For now, I'm focusing on the words. To start, I flipped to the back pages and read the two-page Author's Note, in which Robertson tells us that he was nine years old when he was told the story of Hiawatha and the Peacemaker. Here's the last paragraph in Robertson's note. When I read it, my delight grew: Some years later in school, we were studying Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's poem about Hiawatha. I think I was the only one in the class who knew that Longfellow got Hiawatha mixed up with another Indian. I knew his poem was not about the real Hiawatha, whom I had learned about years ago, that day in the longhouse. I didn't say anything. I kept the truth to myself.. till now."


Entered at Mon Nov 9 15:20:43 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: 'He's got a daytime job, he's doing alright'

Mark Knopfler is the guitarist I go back to often. His body of work is superb. I can't get enough of it. I had the fortune of seeing him open for Dylan a few years ago and he was superb. Unfortunately, I never saw him with Dire Straits but I listen to those albums constantly.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 11:19:36 CET 2015 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA
Web: My link

Subject: Cutting Edge

Cutting Edge Sampler- see Link

I don't know- maybe I am just partial - but so far - I like the versions with the BAND. Don't get me wrong - not saying better- just saying that I like what I hear. I think RR guitar work is awesome.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 01:42:55 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Thanks Al E & Carl.

I have just had the good fortune to become friends with Mark Knopfler on Face Book.

On his page is a youtube vid I hadn't seen before. If anyone is interested. It is a concert at Monserrat, with Phil Collins, Sting and Eric Clapton. They play "Money For Nothing". For me it is great. Another lift!


Entered at Mon Nov 9 01:15:07 CET 2015 from (65.189.212.146)

Posted by:

Calvin Rydbom

Web: My link

You think the Lomax Collection was Impressive? University of California at Santa Barbara relaunched their Edison Cylinder Website. The Indexing still isnt great.

Hit Playlists in the Bottom Left Corner for some groupings theyve done that is nowhere near complete. There is about 15-20 recording in the "Early Hillbilly" Section. Recordings from 1923-1926, you know-Before the Carter Family

Feel like listening to something beyond American? Theyve got some recordings of Sandra Bernhardt for 1910 on there.

Amazing Resource. I love living in 2015, and its only going to get better. Click my Link to check it out.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 00:44:50 CET 2015 from (24.108.19.210)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Norm

Hey Buddy. You want happy. Go to youtube and type in All about that bass-postmodern jukebox european tour version. There's hope for the music world after all.


Entered at Mon Nov 9 00:06:31 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Walking Dead Soundtrack

At the risk of jarring with PSB [I do get your discomfort Peter but we're all different I guess], I feel duty bound to alert or remind folks who may be interested to the amazing song selection used as a backdrop for this series.

Scarcely a track I'd ever heard before but some absolute cracking stuff. I linked the Ben Howard's Oats in The Water track last week.

I've now linked Ben Nichols Last pale Light in the West track. Another outstanding track that once again sounds like it must have been around for 50 years or more but is apparently once again - somehow - new.

Norm - I think it'll be right up your street.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: A Positive Feeling!

Just got home from delivering a boat to the Fraser River.

Too much strife and bloodshed on the news, with plane crashes as well. It becomes too much of a downer. Now and again I put on one of these songs. "We are the people". recorded for the folks in Africa.

It gives me a positive lift with hopes that more people can see things this way. The joy of listening to Bruce, Springsteen, Bob Dylan and all the rest put their hearts into this cheers me up.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 17:19:40 CET 2015 from (70.193.129.24)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: A Portrait of the Artist at the Cutting Edge

Once upon a time and a very good time it was, Bob Dylan revolutionized music. Beginning in January 1965 he recorded three landmark albums in the span of just fourteen months, with enough outtakes to have comprised another had he chosen to interrupt a hectic touring schedule to further edit the recorded material. Five decades later we have the rare opportunity to peer into the soul of an artist as he toiled to create music in a new form with an amazing cast of supporting musicians to enrich his palette.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 17:05:55 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Joe Brown

Joe Brown was on Radio 4 last night, talking about his early days in the BBC house band backing Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran. He said that Musician’s Union rules meant visiting US stars could bring just one musician as a musical director ‘like one of the band … the drummer’ … I'd bet Levon was the only "drummer and MD" … but the interviewer didn’t know enough to draw out more on Levon & Ronnie.

Nice story about being sacked on the spot by Johnny Cash. Joe was playing Five Feet High and Rising and got so bored with the repetitive guitar part he added a little flourish on lead guitar. Johnny Cash stopped the band and ordered him to leave the studio.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 16:58:53 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: Cardboard housing plastic, vinyl and bound volumes

Kevin (and anyone else who might care): Box sets which document evolution of songs (like 1963 or1964 copyright releases of Dylan or the current 'The Cutting Edge' ) are usually exciting early and interesting in concept; but for the usual listener, they in time become tiresome and so do not often get listened to later in one's experience. On the other hand, for the few who want to understand how a track ultimately 'arrives' onto a final release, the interest in hearing it makes it worthwhile. This is the equivalent for the student of an artist (or a writer or a painter) of getting insight into the process. I think that in time and after one has digested this evolution of a final release, the box set will even for the student get put aside and will not be listened to for a while. So, even for the casual listener, the 3 seminal albums may be enough (Dylan) and they may find little in even the 2 CD 'The Cutting Edge". Certainly, the 6 CD may be too much for many. Getting a box set of everything an artist ever did is for the few, not for the many. I like Bruce Springsteen a lot but won't purchase a box set because I'm not that kind of fan of this artist. I have his releases and that will be enough. On the other hand, I have since 1970s (from bootlegs on) 'studied' Bob Dylan and it is a major interest (like Shakespeare and Dylan are to Andrew Muir). And so, as a 'hobby or pastime' I will continue to study. I haven't lost interest and can be both positively or negatively critical of some of his work. It is one of my sidelines when I am not working at my job. In the same way that I welcomed "A Musical History" (The Band) and would hope new The Band releases from the vault would be released. If a box set like that was released, I'd be in the first in line group. And for the same reasons.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 16:22:23 CET 2015 from (24.114.76.252)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: New Bob Dylan Bootleg

LINKED.....A very good article that looks at the business side of the recent trend of too much too big box sets as well as a good review of Bob's latest.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 16:06:25 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Kenneth Branagh …

I don't normally link theatre reviews, but like Cumberbatch's Hamlet, this is the really big one of 2015 (and way better than the Cumberbatch too) and it will be coming to cinemas in three weeks … Kenneth Branagh and Judi Dench in "The Winter's Tale." I've been sitting on the review for two and a half weeks waiting for press night.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 16:04:12 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rod the Mod

Delighted to hear Rod on "Every Rock & Roll Song To Me" where he says to the lady "Hey, you're my Strawberry Fields … you're my Bridge Over Troubled Water … my Bohemian Rhapsody, I'm crazy about you, can't you see … Yea, be my Blonde on Blonde, bring it on home to me, and hey, your my Rock of Ages … You Sexy Thing, you're so outrageous."

It's Track 13 on the DeLuxe version of "Another Country", so maybe not on the main album.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 16:00:58 CET 2015 from (24.114.76.252)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: SNL 1976.......JDF

Almost seemed a joke, didn't it ? Single camera focused almost exclusively on Levon's mouth with almost no shots of the band.......and what was with having multiple takes of old cardboard photos of each band member rather than actually showing the live performance. Might have been the worst directed live music performance I have ever seen. The overhead shots of Garth were the only saving grace.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 07:19:42 CET 2015 from (108.64.128.216)

Posted by:

JDF

Location: Illinois

Subject: SNL 1976

As you well know that was sarcasm. As usual, Richard is left out of the cameras view. So sad.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 07:14:59 CET 2015 from (108.64.128.216)

Posted by:

JDF

Location: Illinois

Subject: SNL 1976

What a joke. Where was Richard?


Entered at Sun Nov 8 02:35:52 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.155)

Posted by:

Bill M

NwC: No problem for me. In any case, I'm sure that some of your best friends are latte-drinkers. Also, is this world's richest man living or dead? You have him in both states in recent posts. The Tetrapak guy?


Entered at Sun Nov 8 01:46:58 CET 2015 from (24.114.76.252)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: SNL with The Band

Thank you, Ari.......I had thought you might be joking but checked and there is a 1 hour SNL starting at 10:00pm on NBC. Just set the recorder. Wonderful.


Entered at Sun Nov 8 01:17:02 CET 2015 from (99.244.8.134)

Posted by:

John D

They perform Life Is A Carnival and TNTDODD.


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Posted by:

Ari

The Band on SNL at 10 with Buck Henry, before Trump at 1130.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: Errata

Everyone makes mistakes. Its good to have my first one pointed out. Thank you.


Entered at Sat Nov 7 21:51:50 CET 2015 from (24.114.76.252)

Posted by:

Kevin J

.....in some town somewhere on this planet over the last week a conversation is happening between homicide detectives observing a murder scene - wife killing husband - one detective turns to the other and says "look, this is going take some time, we have motive and it is Bob Dylan - just not exactly sure if it was the $600 or the the 10th take of 'Outlaw Blues' that finally caused the old lady to flip"


Entered at Sat Nov 7 19:00:17 CET 2015 from (83.249.161.239)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: JT

I highly appreciate your posts in this gb but this time you are wrong. You posted on 'She's Your Lover Now' that "it should have ultimately been released as an included cut. Glad we have it now". Wrong, my friend, wrong again. It is like it should always have been in the first place. - As an Lutheran I am not an expert but just like my Professor in Old Testament at Helsinki University said: "Don't say that Moses should have written Das Kapi tal by Karl Marx or Theory Of Evoluton by Charles Darwin", because you are wrong. It should never have been happen. And it did not!


Entered at Sat Nov 7 17:50:51 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: 'She's Your Lover Now"

'She's Your Lover Now" (Take 6): Amazing evolution of that song. Should have ultimately been released as an included cut. Glad we have it now.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: 'Money, money, money' by ABBA

What is richness. Ruben Rausing was born in our poor fishing hamlet. He invented the milk package you probably hold in your hand this morning. He was the richest man in the world when he died. His grave in our graveyard is one of the humblest... makes me wonder.

ABBA-Frida had a house in the peaceful and calm shore of the Strait a few miles away until her husband died. Nobody has seen her since then... makes me wonder.


Entered at Sat Nov 7 16:07:00 CET 2015 from (83.249.161.239)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Coffee and Bill M

My apologies for making fun on my gb friend Bill M and his taste on coffee - latte - in one of my previous posts. Nothing that makes this gb more enjoyable for everyone. BTW coffee, 'Loving Spoonful' by John Lee Hooker is the blues which seems to be the favorite among the older coffee generation.


Entered at Fri Nov 6 16:06:32 CET 2015 from (74.14.7.222)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: Peter Stone Brown reviews The Cutting Edge in Counterpunch

Go to counterpunch.org to read a superb and particularly incisive review of the 6 CD Deluxe version of The Cutting Edge Bootleg V. 12 Dylan by Peter Stone Brown. Again, from a musician's point of view and so what I certainly want to understand. Well done and thank you.


Entered at Fri Nov 6 15:02:58 CET 2015 from (67.84.78.24)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Rod. Many people with worthy projects and proper respectful presentation of such project and the subsequent involvement hire Honeyboy. It's easily accomplished.


Entered at Fri Nov 6 09:30:28 CET 2015 from (125.237.221.154)

Posted by:

Rod

The last RR release I bought was Native Americans. Never really got into that one or anything that followed but looking forward to the book. Now, if he could just get Garth involved...


Entered at Fri Nov 6 09:09:39 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Rod Stewart said that writing his autobiography led to "Time" - an album of autobiographical songs. Hopefully he same is happening with RR.


Entered at Fri Nov 6 06:22:43 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.162)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I would love to listen to a great new record from RR.


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Posted by:

Carmen

Location: Pa
Web: My link

Subject: Dylan review

Good review on the Dylan release. Lots of RR. Worth the read.


Entered at Fri Nov 6 04:08:33 CET 2015 from (65.189.212.146)

Posted by:

Calvin

A New RR Album? Well That Made My Night.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: RR

Excellent!


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Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: RR

Nice news on a new RR album. Can't wait.


Entered at Fri Nov 6 02:31:55 CET 2015 from (217.150.101.230)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: New RR album Spring 2016 - makes sense.....

From an article/interview with Todd Jensen posted on RR's Facebook page:

"On break from recording his forthcoming solo album – “a mirror, basically,” he says, to the autobiographical tome which will published next year, the new songs and the old stories interconnected"


Entered at Fri Nov 6 01:45:31 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.143)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Al Bruno, RIP

I just learned that an old-Yonge-Street-hand-made-good, guitarist Al Bruno, died in August. Part of the C&W / rockabilly crowd that Ronnie Hawkins would have run with when he first arrived here, Bruno was picked up by Conway Twitty and the Dick Clark. I think some of the dates at the link are a bit off, and the bio fails to mention the solo LP, "Town and Country Guitar" he recorded here circa 1960. Its success led to "Town and Country Piano" by Johnny Coy, who deserves a mention on this site's list of former Hawks, given the two weeks he spent with Hawkins, filling in for Pop Jones.


Entered at Thu Nov 5 23:57:48 CET 2015 from (65.95.178.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: The Clientele

Speaking of music I've never been aware of, a band out of the UK, with success in the US, is The Clientele. They've been around for a number of years and have had a number of albums under their belt. Well worth a listen. Anyone here know then and want to comment?


Entered at Thu Nov 5 17:02:42 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.162)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Shackets- i meant shirt jackets. I haven't had cawfee yet. but shall fix that momentarily. Hell, i almost posted a video of Walk Like An Egyptian dedicated to Norm. This is dangerous -time for cawfee. Sayofuckingnara.


Entered at Thu Nov 5 16:48:24 CET 2015 from (71.43.124.98)

Posted by:

Dan

Subject: Amy Helm

Amy Helm is the featured artist this week on Sirius XM The Loft. Walking the dog this weekend and ran into a neighbor wearing a Levon Helm Band t-shirt. He shared his Levon Helm Ramble I & II DVDs for my Amy Helm Album and Live at the Academy on a 30 day return - mutually assured destruction to ensure what is borrowed is returned ...


Entered at Thu Nov 5 14:59:04 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.162)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pete, three for sure. and yes, that's just in Fort Greene. One of these fancy type beauty shops, i tihnk called Shen Beauty, opened reecntly in Carol Gardens or Cobble hill..... what's going on, stores in formerly wonderful blue collar and up areas, selling t shirts , fancy t shirts, for 70 to 150 bucks, fancy "chore jackets" for 300, 400 bucks, "shackets" or suit jackets? for two t o 400 bucks. remember those things, just big warm shirts, cordouroy, denim, heavy sometimes lined or insulated. ten bucks, then 20, then maybe if you overpay 40 or 50? and the really fancy , great tweed or wool quality ones, pendletons, woolrich, etc etc, even ten years ago, 100 to 200.Well, today, in brooklyn, soemthing like that, real quality, would be 500, 600 bucks, maybe a thousand if you're reall stoopid. but, you can still find good insulated work wear flannel shirts in farm stores, places like that. or even god forbid walmart, for 20 to 50 or 60 bucks.Or a couple hundred for the high quality ones. In North Brooklyn they named em "shackets." and these people think they are bright, witty, and unique. developed a whole fucking new culture. They think they came here in covered fucking wagons and settled the place. but they are becomin older news, so once in a while someone writes an article abut some of the old busineses that are still holding on.but it doesnlt stop that business form getting shut out when their lease runs out, or if they own, selling the building when a develope gives them a crazy offer for the property


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Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff, what we need to do is to get a franchise on that organic hand cream shop (all the floral ingredients are organic, handpicked, probably only at Full Moon) and open a branch in Fort Greene. Except there are probably three already.


Entered at Thu Nov 5 14:25:18 CET 2015 from (67.84.76.162)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Pete, don't be so sure about that

Pete, I just mentioned prices for coop apartments where i live. That didn't include the monthly maintenance fee, which in my building is about 700. And really, next to Coney Island, Canarsie, & East New York, Sheepshead Bay is just about the least desirable or expensive area in Brooklyn today. But though it's comparably "quiet" ( ha ha )because of distance from The City this neighborhood has become one of the two or three least expensive already. Go to North Brooklyn, parts of Brooklyn Heights, Cobble Hill, Carrol Gardens, Park Slope, you can pay 12 million bucks for a three story townhouse or brownstone. the listings i see daily are insane. Linked is Brooklyn Navy green. A ridiculous development of Townhomes East of The Brooklyn Navy Yard. Though i haven't seen it ( i went by on the wrong Sunday) i suspect standards of construction are poor, as usually is the case with what I've seen..3,000 square foot 4 bedroom townhomes starting at S2,195,00.00 It's in a desolate, pretty well unpopulated area, not very close to DUMBO , and not really in Fort Greene. It's in what still is a relatively undesirable desolate, but rough area, on the border of what is still a rough area, projects, & connected to a "desirable" area , Fort Greene, what was once a really rough area, that still has some few aspects of that, but does have several bad projects in it. And that is to the west and southwest. Go east, it's worse. Plus, there is no real or abundant shopping closeby. But you are not close to any trains (subways), once you get to one you are near The City (Manhattan).Old Masonry Brownstones in Fort Greene, easily four million bucks, possibly a lot more. I lost touch wth my ex girlfriend and dont know what her cavernous 4 story home opposite Fort Greene Park would go for right now, but easily that.. Her mom bought it in 1975 for about 30k, when the neighborhood was Murderer's Row. but go to brooklyn Heights, my sister's friend Jonathan was paying over 3K rent for a small one bedroom apartment with a toney address in the early 2000s. Go to any Gold Coast block in Park Slope, the #s would require you wear a space suit. In 2008 & 9 i was selling & installing window treatments all over Brooklyn, & was in plenty of one & two bedroom apartments i new high rises in North Brooklyn that sold for over a quarter of a million and then also over half a million bucks. And the million dollar ones. Plus maintenance. Of course, hardly anyone that bought these was a native NY er or native Brooklynite. Just rich people who came for the fun of it, or business. Lots of inherited money too, lots of people in finance jobs. It sucks. And it's human gridlock, traffic gridlock, and you can pay 5 bucks for bad cup of coffee and a bad bagel all day long now in these nighborhoods. 5 bucks for a medium sized cup of frozen yogurt. Unless I'm at the point where my stomach thinks my throat beens cut, i rarely eat in these neighborhoods anymore. I get too pissed off when i way overpay & the quality is pitiful. If the quality's good i just get mildly aggravated. Cause aside from untethered greed, there's no reason for the destruction of a civilization, disturbances of whole populations, mindless homogenization & worship of celebrated mediocrity that is labeled different, though it's just a jumble of things that once were unique and meaningful.


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Posted by:

Peter V

You have the same kind of thing in London, only worse than Brooklyn. I was in Islington last week (Jeremy Corbyn’s very wealthy socialist constituency in fact), and Mrs V was having a long conversation about hand cream in an organic toiletries and perfume shop (did I mention it was Islington?) so I wandered out and looked in the estate agents windows in the neighbouring couple of shops. One bedroom apartment in a converted Victorian house … £695,000, or over one million dollars. Tiny two bedroom terraced house … £895,000. I’d Google for more examples, but then I’d get adverts popping up twenty times a day. These are just insane prices. In Bournemouth or Poole £895,000 would get you a five bedroom detached house with a two car garage and a large garden. And Poole is one of the most expensive towns outside London. The disparity is ludicrous. As I said at the time of the election, owning a £1 million house in London is not the sign of wealth … just the sign of having lived there more than 15 or 20 years and watching prices rocket.


Entered at Thu Nov 5 05:22:56 CET 2015 from (67.84.77.127)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Jerry, knowing you and the NY Times, i assumed you were alluding to that article i linked before. BTW, Di Fara's Pizza, as mentioned in that article, kinda sucks. I'm sure we've discussed him before. I went to high school in Midwood, grew in the next neighborhood south though. I didn't care for Di Fara's in the 70s. And it was filthy then. Dom hasn't remodeled it since then, you got the same filth. it never was very clean. But, somewhere along the line some reviewer decided to write about him. His prices skyrocketed, and he got more and more reviews. It might be the most written about pizza place in the country & truthfully, all that means is it's an example of meaningless , wasteful, sinful hype. The pizza ia average at best. 5 bucks a slice, in a filthy dilapidated joint. I could take you to a half dozen pizza parlors where the regular pie is excellent and $2,50 a slice. the fresh mozz pie is 3.00 to 3.25, and often to die for. And the owners are polite, friendly, the place is clean , often spotless, and often nice inside. Dom, at DiFara's is a sourpuss. Always was. But 5 bucks a slice.And people wait up to an hour for it. Da nerve! And a perfect example of the power of the media, ignorant consumers, and the fact that content, cost, value, and perception need have no tangible or real connection.Jerry, ave J is loaded with Orthodox and Kosher shops. Wasn't that way when i was growing up- the Jewish population was more secular. And there were lots of Italians, a good representaion of Irish, with smatherings of everyone else. Today, it;s still somewhat mixed, but mostly orthodox and hasidic jews. Used to be a great, interesting neighborhood.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Loved Sam Lee's voice. Players are wonderful too.


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Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Yes Jerry, and the fact of the attention is that it's driven by real estate more than culture. The culture has been here all along, now, it's actually on the way out.The one mostly replacing it is a consumption culture, and what it offers is kinda weak and exceptionally high priced. The funny thing though, is that so many of the business that caame in, paid higher prices in a variety of areas, good, toney, dangerous, and dilapidated areas (which of course are now gentrified), and in many cases fueled many landlords attempts to push out long time rent controlled tenants, is now being driven out when their leases expire and they to cannot afford the higher rents they are faced with..... But yes, the attention is a good thing, far better than not. The reality is the reality, that ain't gonna change, so might as well get attention. Two bedroom two bath aprtments are selling in my building for 300K now.And i'm at the far end of Brooklyn, in a fifty year old building. New construction in my neighborhood, someone just bought a 2 bedroom, one bath apartment nearby for 640k. So, who the fuck can afford these prices and why the hell woudl you want to put up with the kind of living condtions for that kind of money? so, that's my feelign abutteh attention. It;s better than not having it, but, Brooklyn got planty of attention always, and at a lower sticker price. Murder Incorporated, hell, they got Brooklyn plenty of attention when it was inexpensive.

Brooklyn always been on the radar. and truth is, it never was an inexpensive plce to live. but it never was insanely pried. You always had to hustle here, but average schmucks could live, even on A 40 houre week. thing is, noone ever wanted to just gat by, and everyone always wanted to look sharp, have nice wheels, impress their girlfriend or potentials, impress their in laws , everyone always wanted to do better, so everyone here hustled. I never knew anyone who sat on their ass. My friends and i all started workign young, before or by 12 the latest, even if your family was well off, you had to work. and everyone's fathers worked hard, my stepfather never worked a 40 hour week, when i was real young he worked a 40 hour job selling floor waxing machines & typewriters, and a had a floor waxing business nights and weekends...By the time i was 10 he had a home improvement operation working.. It was more like 13 hour days 4 days a week, and shorter Friday and Ssturdays. Cops , firemen, all civil servants always had side jobs or side businesses, business owners worked themselves in to the ground.But it was always fur a reason or a better life. by the late 8os i could feel it changing, and in the late mid 90s, i knew that what has been goin on , i knew it had begun.


Entered at Thu Nov 5 04:26:32 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Sam Lee: An Introduction

PV - I liked that too; reminded me a bit of a more contemporary Andy M Stewart.

And Ben Howard - Thanks Al for that one too - we're so damn hip here!


Entered at Thu Nov 5 02:59:06 CET 2015 from (65.95.178.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: Brooklyn

Brooklyn is getting a lot of attention in the papers lately, Jeff. From pizza to kosher bakeries to movie titles to vinyl record stores, Brooklyn is front and centre.


Entered at Thu Nov 5 01:47:19 CET 2015 from (65.95.178.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: Sam Lee

Peter: Thanks for that review and for alerting me to this fine ensemble and this excellent singer. We don't hear much about the folk performers you have noted and you have been consistently on the money. Until this review, i had not been aware of Sam Lee. Careful listening will be the menu for my flight back to Victoria from Toronto in a couple of days. (both albums)


Entered at Thu Nov 5 00:48:23 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Sam Lee: Phoenix Island

Live version of this song linked for those who don't know Sam Lee.


Entered at Thu Nov 5 00:44:23 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Sam Lee & Friends

Just back from a concert by the Award Winning English folk artists, Sam Lee and Friends. Impeccable sound, wonderful arrangements and a distinct personal style. See LINK ABOVE for review.


Entered at Wed Nov 4 18:35:16 CET 2015 from (83.249.161.239)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Bonus pic

My link is a bonus pic ONLY for those who read my previous post. This is the cashier in the country store.


Entered at Wed Nov 4 18:10:02 CET 2015 from (83.249.161.239)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Calvin's famous link and world's richest man who paid our coffee

Calvin's link made us to drive to Agunnaryd where world's richest man lives by a lake in the deep forests in southern Sweden. He supports the local country store not bigger than your living room. These woods were the roots for Appalachian mountain hymns and dance hall music in Wisconsin - but there were other countries too, Ireland Germany and Scotland for instance like you know well. Coffee in this country store is free. No latte for Bill M but black truck-driver style coffee instead. My link shows the wall of the country store plus ten per cent of the people who lives there and the richest man in the world somewhere among them. There are as many bears and wolves there.

Makes me wonder... this man must be rich in more than just one way.


Entered at Wed Nov 4 16:01:12 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Visions of Johanna

In Nashville Dylan achieved more subtle dynamics in the pace of the song. Drummer Kenny Buttrey laid down a marching shuffle groove, supported by Joe South on bass and the steady snap of the rhythm guitar (Wayne Moss, Jerry Kennedy?). Al Kooper's background organ swirls and the bite of Robbie Robertson's tasty lead guitar add a perfect icing on the cake. All in all the version has a late night groove that allows the complexity of the lyrics to breathe in the foreground.


Entered at Wed Nov 4 14:17:15 CET 2015 from (131.137.34.213)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Stage Fright at Birds Hill

"English troubadour Robyn Hitchcock joins Canada’s premier roots-rock band The Sadies and other special guests to perform The Band’s _Stage Fright_ album, in honour of the anniversary of its 1970 release." 11 July 2015

The Sadies covered "The Shape I'm In" and backed Neil Young ("This Wheel's On Fire") and Mary Margret O'Hara ("Out of the Blue") on _Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band_ (2010).


Entered at Wed Nov 4 13:12:47 CET 2015 from (65.95.178.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: English Grammar

...even if it is grammatically incorrect.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: Correction

WHOOPS! That should have been ", Well Shakespeare, he's in the alley.... Gotta get it right


Entered at Wed Nov 4 12:43:00 CET 2015 from (65.95.178.127)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittentlly

Subject: Shakespeare's in the alley...

Thanks Bill for reminding us about Hamlet. There are some great photos of The Band and Rick Danko with Hamlet done by E. Landy. Hopefully, they will be among those coming in the new book soon to be released and sent of Landy photos of The Band.


Entered at Wed Nov 4 12:39:25 CET 2015 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Visions

This might just be sacrilege - but the more I listen - the more I like the BAND version better.


Entered at Wed Nov 4 03:48:25 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.155)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Re the 2B question, I'd say the owner must be Hamlet (aka Jack), except that can dogs live that long?


Entered at Wed Nov 4 01:16:28 CET 2015 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: Pa

Subject: Visions

I really like this alt version. Not saying it is better but I think it groves and RR kills it with his guitar throughout.


Entered at Tue Nov 3 23:15:09 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Visions of Johanna

Not so sure … I think Dylan was right in not using the NYC version and The Hawks hammered the subtlety out of it and it would have got lost (say) next to Tell Me Mama. It would have been great in the electric set if they'd done it the Nashville arrangement.


Entered at Tue Nov 3 17:15:29 CET 2015 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Visions of Johanna

Watching that new video with the alternate take of "Visions of Johanna" brings to mind that Dylan performed the song during his solo acoustic set while on tour with the Hawks. It seems it would have been a good choice from his new material at the time to perform during the electric set.


Entered at Tue Nov 3 13:57:11 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

2B or not 2B, that is the question, David.

As you drive along the Embankment in London you pass a very nice house and the cars parked outside are 2 BE and NOT 2B. I often wonder who owns them.


Entered at Mon Nov 2 23:58:13 CET 2015 from (70.193.160.14)

Posted by:

David P

I checked again and it's actually a 2A pressing.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: BoB

In anticipation of the Cutting Edge release an early (2B) Columbia 360 stereo pressing of Blonde On Blonde is in heavy rotation this week. While admiring the photo of Ms. Cardinale my tube headphone amp glows as it warms the ghost of electricity.


Entered at Mon Nov 2 20:42:46 CET 2015 from (108.16.242.238)

Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: the pond

Subject: Oats

Not only does Oats on the Water have a haunting melody, sung beautifully, and a skilled band playing it, the bass player is so pretty. For Peter V: if you want to know where on the river is the Tallahatchie Bridge, there is an NPR (or PRI these days)interview from not long ago where Roseanne Cash mentions going to visit the spot for a CD cover shoot.


Entered at Mon Nov 2 19:28:04 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bob / The Beatles

BTW, I was discussing the two reissues last night. Bob Dylan is the alternatives from his best three albums, but essentially these are all REJECTED versions. The Beatles 45s are in contrast the SELECTED versions. Judging from the work on LOVE, the remastering / remixing will be well done, though in this case subtle rather than a radical remix. He says "mono gently lifted into 5.1"

Which will be the true best reissue of 2015?


Entered at Mon Nov 2 19:12:01 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cutting Edge

PSB: the reviews are already starting. I guess the video is a Hawks track from NYC? One preview said The Hawks stuff was all too fast and vindicated the decision to move to Nashville and try again. While it rocks away, and I love the vocal, the Blonde on Blonde "Visions of Johanna" is probably the one that would win for me on "Desert Island Discs" when they say, "But if you could only take ONE song …" I believe it came first in a poll on "favourite Dylan song" too. It's my choice. So in that sense, I'm enthralled to hear the different version, but it really makes the towering achievement of the Blonde on Blonde released version even more obvious.

Having often thought about Desert Island Discs, it comes down to Visions of Johanna v King Harvest v Strawberry Fields Forever, but if I really was going to a desert island with one piece of music, it would be Ravel's Piano Concerto in G, Bernstein version … because I'd want tranquility and relaxation, rather than a song!

Also Friday sees the "One Plus" DVD / Blu-Ray from The Beatles with all their videos and promos, remixed in 5.1 again as on LOVE. You really must get the De Luxe 2 Blu Ray edition because the really interesting stuff is on Disc 2, the "De Luxe" only one.

It will be quite a battle for REISSUE OF THE YEAR, especially with the remasters "Astral Weeks" with bonus tracks finally out this month too.


Entered at Mon Nov 2 18:49:37 CET 2015 from (68.171.246.151)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I believe that the bridge replaced the crossing in the 1960's. Word has it that a local, BJ McAllister, made something of a splash by throwing his copy of Faulkner's collected works over the parapet on the grounds (spurious in my view) that there was no loneger any point in retaining them.


Entered at Mon Nov 2 18:29:47 CET 2015 from (100.11.74.162)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love
Web: My link

Subject: Lots of Hawks

Sometimes the conversation here amazes me. The new Bob Dylan bootleg series comes out Friday and there is a lot of Bob and The Hawks (usually without Levon, but a couple of tracks with him) on the set and even more stuff from Nashville with Robbie. The link above is to a just out video of one of the takes, a speedy one of "Visions Of Johanna."


Entered at Mon Nov 2 17:11:25 CET 2015 from (50.166.177.40)

Posted by:

barbara B

Location: New Jersey

Subject: photo needed

I am working on a John Scher Retrospective Gallery Exhibit and am hoping to find a photo of The Band from the Asbury Park Casino Arena shows in 1976. Please contact me at barbler1@yahoo.com thank you


Entered at Mon Nov 2 17:08:11 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Under The Covers

Having been unable to stop listening to Matthew Sweet and Susanna Hoffs "Under The Covers 1: The 60s" for a week, I'm now thoroughly addicted to "Vol 2: The 70s Part 1." It's odd … they're pretty faithful covers, there's no Cat Power -style reworkings at all, but they're enthralling because of her voice: Sugar Magnolia, Bell Bottom Blues, Second Hand Newss, All The Young Dudes, Willin;, Hello It's Me, Maggie May, Beware of Darkness, Gimmee Some Truth, You're So Vain … a fine selection of songs, but because of the unity of voice it fits together as an album.


Entered at Mon Nov 2 17:03:09 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Tallahatchie River

The Toppermost on Bobbie Gentry will be up in a week or so, and having finished it a couple of weeks ago, I was flicking through William Faulkner's Collected Stories (as one does in November) and found "My Grandmother Milliard and General Bedford Forrest" which mentions the Tallahatchie Crossing, apparently the site of a Civil War contretemps … was it on the site of the famous Billie Joe bridge? Or elsewhere on the river?


Entered at Mon Nov 2 06:40:10 CET 2015 from (67.87.216.75)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Gotta hand it to KC. Give em an inch, they take the whole field. Smart , relentless baseball. They know how to give you a mauling.


Entered at Mon Nov 2 04:25:07 CET 2015 from (67.87.216.75)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Want to buy an iconic store? Mandolin Bros.

So many of the names I've known for what feels like forever............cause it sorta is...

Al, I keep meeting Scouses... few nights back, a friend playing in Lucille's, the bar club in BB Kings, three gals sit down to my left while i was yakking with some one. Later the one on my left starts talking to me. i recognized the sound.... Anyway, three gals, two sisters & ones daughter, the mom & her sister were at a play. We decided Liverpool is likely Britain's version of Brooklyn.


Entered at Mon Nov 2 03:02:44 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Shameful!

Gawd damn Englishman is gettin' crazier by the minute.

I think I'm gonna start calling JQ........JQA as in John Quincey Adams ;-)


Entered at Mon Nov 2 02:06:35 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Sonny Boy Williamson

I never even knew he played for New Zealand!

:-0)


Entered at Mon Nov 2 00:08:58 CET 2015 from (67.87.216.75)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Link is to a photo of Mets owner Fred Wilpon & Sandy Koufax, & the rest of their high school basketball team..Yes JQ, those homegrown ones,including Murphy, Flores, Conforto, Duda, & Familia, came up through The Mets system, were Brooklyn Cyclones. Fred Wilpon, the team owner, obviously is a Brooklyn boy.

JQ,thanks for the correction, that it was Cespedes, not Granderson.

Funny to read that Koufax tied his elbow arthritis to hiiting the pole that held up the baskets on the basketball courts. I destroyed my left wrist in my teen years , while playing basketball. I was short, but had springs in my legs, and twice jumped over the hoop. Anyway, the first time i hurt that wrist, i hit the pavement hard, and guess on the way down i tried to push the pavement away with my left hand.. Another time i was running and whacked the pole with my left hand or wrist.I guess the ortopedist wasn't too good, said there's probably some minifracture, leave it alone, hope it heals, or the only thing to do is break it and operate to fix it. Which makes sense, but i guess he didn't instill enough confidence in me that i ever followed up & took care of it back then. I know he didn't say come back in a month & we'll reevaluate, this is heavy duty... Of course, today, MRIS make a big difference as to how medicine worked back then... I was a kid, mid teens, just didn't like the idea of having my wrist broken. And since that guy was wishy washy, shoulda looked for a dr that i liked better...Anyway, it sure made guitar playing difficult from there on in, and though i was good, fretting became too hard sometimes, ...i could play fine for awhile, then all of a sudden, my wrist would go again. Then all of a sudden , i could play. then the wrist would go again, and fretting became a bitch..... Soemtimes i;d crack that wrist, you could hear 5 cracks , for a distance. These days, the cracking sounds sometimes are pretty wild, cleaner,deeper, distincter, and coming from more parts of the wrist than ever before.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 23:33:38 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Earworms! They grab you and won't let go.

Y'all remember Sammy Johns? There was always some kind of van.....didn't have to be a Chevy. For many years I owned and restored a '57 Ford Skyliner retractable convertible...at a time between wives. A bunch of my life long friends and I were sitting in this old local bar in Gibsons.......Sam Gibbs a really Deluxe brunette I'd know forever was sitting across from me as we all looked out the window admiring this old beauty of mine with 10 coats of black laquer on it Sam looks at me and says, (with her eyes kind of smokey), "have you broke in the back seat yet Norm?"

I said ...........aaaaaaaah NO! She said what are we waiting for lets go....nothing else to say.

Yeah Al! I caught that too, callin those guys Orks, I thought I was bad calling them gorillas.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 23:22:23 CET 2015 from (58.104.15.56)

Posted by:

Wallsend

Web: My link

Al Edge, Ork you say ...


Entered at Sun Nov 1 23:14:09 CET 2015 from (24.186.160.158)

Posted by:

Ari

As a die-hard Met fan, this World Series is not an easy ride.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Yoenis Cespedes

Hi Jeff - He was the guy caught off first that ended the game - an expensive mental error. My Mets' fan buddies blame the game 1 loss on him too, when he messed up in the OF allowing for the inside-the-park HR.

KC is getting a lot of credit for being a home-made team but it's actually the Mets that are more that way: Their 4 starters are all original Mets, as is their closer and 7 of 9 position players. All except the store-bought Cespedes. And 2nd year and natural Met: the red-hot Granderson.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 19:33:29 CET 2015 from (67.87.216.75)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I think about that 69 Mets outfield, left to right, Cleon Jones, Tommie Agee, & Ron Swoboda, & how many insane catches they made, diving, running, & running into walls, running & diving, reaching over the wall, & they made a whole helluva lot of em.... But not only were they amazing performances, they were clutch plays, the money was on the table, the games & the season were on the line.... it's rare you see that kind of performance or clutch thing in sports anymore. It happens sometimes, there are some clutch players, but the combination of extraordinary & clutch, it's rare...

Another rare thing, that Mets outfield, none of em were big names. Cleon was the only guy who had any kind of cachet attached to his name at all. There were no big names on that team at the beginning of the season. They all made their names in the clutch.... Seaver & Koosman both had a small rep, Koosman was my preference. Hell, when the Mets traded for Don Clendenon, he was the biggest name & was just coming to the team. And if i recall, he was kinda coming back from an injury, or got injured when he first joined the team..... I loved Clendenon, he was a clutch player, showed up right on the time. That was a team of no names.....


Entered at Sun Nov 1 19:00:45 CET 2015 from (67.87.216.75)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Norman, neither teams recovered from their errors immediately. It took KC time to recover. Thier errors were real bad too. Rios - how do you forget the out count? The individual players looked just as fucked up from their errors as did The Mets players. But as I pointed out, their errors were earlier in the game. The Mets actually were beginning to crawl out from under their errors, got some men on base to mount an attack, then with one out, didn't Granderson make that baserunning error to create a needless double play? It was just last night, & here I'm not even sure, but i think that ended the game.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 18:53:23 CET 2015 from (67.87.216.75)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

I can't think of any baseball team that ever played unfettered, unrattled, intrepid, & practically inhuman baseball like The Miracle Mets of 69. It didn't matter what deficit they were in, what got hit by the opposing team, or who was at bat, offensively or defensively, they found a way to win. That entire team made seemingly unmakeable catches & plays routinely, & every clutch hit they had to.(From a point on) During the season & postseason. I kinda got spoiled by the NY teams of 69, Jets, Mets, Knicks, & i definitely still have a tendency to measure other teams and players performance by those standards. But it's also kinda how i was raised in general, what i was taught. Nothings impossible if you want it & if you believe you can do it. Sometimes that means you're gonna take a beating for a minute, but it definitely means you just get back up, dust yourself off, put your head on straight ( as important as anything), & go back in the game.

Times change.sensibilities change. I kinda wonder if that is a way of thought anymore, if it's in the general air, if it gets taught by example & or theory anymore, if it's something people even see enough or are able to believe anymore. I's a totally different world.

Back to baseball. The Amazin Mets got that name from Casey Stengel cause they were so bad. They were bad right into the early mid season of 1969 when they apparently got hit by lightning & everyone on the team, including formerly marginal (pro) players like Wayne Garrett, Ed Charles, Al Weiss, Art Shamsky, & Kenny Boswell, turned into superheros. And that pitching staff was outasite. Everyone hit their stride at once, it was a team mental thing that elevated the physical performance of everyone on the team. They caught fire, & mentally that whole damn team believed that they could do anything & they did it. You could not rattle those guys or coaches..One unmakeable defensive play after another. One clutch hit after another. Talent is one thing, but the mind is another entirely. When you can keep your mind right, bombs can go off all around you, it ain't gonna matter ( okay, move over to real life, in practice, there's limits to everything & after a point, you gotta have support to handle stress too) .

Back to those Mets.... Gil Hodges lived just about a mile away from me, on Bedford Ave between Ave N & Ave M. I never saw him in front of the house, but that's where they lived. Just on the border into Midwood. I think they later moved to Mill Basin, a couple neighborhoods over.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 17:59:29 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Yeah BUT - JQ & xAmbassadors - Renegades

KC won JQ, so it wasn't that much of a fuck up that they couldn't recover instead of getting all rattled.

I'm hoping this video works. I wonder if any of you have listened to the x-Ambassadors? For a catchy tune that grabs you listen to this. The concept of the video is pretty good as well.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 17:31:22 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: KC fucked up too

KC miscues helped the Mets too - one was very big: Carlos Rios' forgetting the outs allowed the Mets to score what could/should have been the winning run. And then Moustakis' late inning thing when the shift was on and he was at SS. A routine grounder hit him in the pocket of his glove and he lost it and it went for an essential NYM base runner.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 17:18:46 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Carmen & Pete M - Oats in the Water

I agree - it really is a rare treat. For me what sets it apart is the basic melody is so simple yet so beautiful and haunting. You wonder how come nobody had ever come up with it before. I remember feeling the same about the simplicity of Sting's Every Breath when I first heard it. It's as if the thing has always been there just waiting for someone to grab it out of the ethos and sing it.

:-0)


Entered at Sun Nov 1 17:05:50 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: The All Blacks

They may well be the best and they are as awesome as it gets - yet fulsome praise is hard to bestow since they are prettty nigh unlikeable due to their Ork like presence.

So when it comes to rugby my heart can never stray far away from JPR Williams, Gerald Davies, Barry John, Gareth Edwards, John Dawes, JJ Williams, Merv the Swerve, Derek Quinnell, Tommy David and the Pontypool front row. A vision of sheer beauty in red with their Welsh compatriots in full perfect pitch vocal majesty driving them on.

Glorious days indeed.

:-0)


Entered at Sun Nov 1 16:55:30 CET 2015 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Who's The Greatest

Got to agree with you Fred lad - the Martina comparison is definitely skating on thin ice!!

:-0)


Entered at Sun Nov 1 16:10:10 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: Deflation

The Mets seemed deflated after that error. An amazing phenomenon that we see so often in sport. Also, I think they brought in the wrong pitcher in the 8th when Reed pitched so well in the 7th. Outmanaged?


Entered at Sun Nov 1 15:39:11 CET 2015 from (208.181.205.152)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Sports?

I agree with you Jerry. I think the Mets just got a little rattled for a moment with the second baseman error. With a team the likes of KC you can see how quickly things can change. I went upstairs from my family room to get a cup of tea and my cookies Susie has me hooked on. Came back down and couldn't believe my eyes.

I'm wondering if any of you have seen this youtube clip. I'm not much of a fan of mixed martial arts but, on my news page here was this clip that I clicked on and watched. One guy, (I don't remember their names), 5'9" 145 pounds sparring with this guy from Iceland, 6'9" and 420 pounds. Now that was funny!


Entered at Sun Nov 1 15:13:47 CET 2015 from (184.66.134.56)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria & Toronto intermittently

Subject: Mets/KC

I've been watching Mets/KC hoping to see KC go down. That team is relentless and they have the players to make it happen and the direction by the manager to do the right things. The Mets will have to dig deep to win 3 games. Its been done but I'm not optimistic. But, yes, October/November baseball is a great thing even for we Canadians


Entered at Sun Nov 1 14:33:34 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I agree with Fred. I would bet on Mohamed Ali to beat Pele in any boxing match.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 13:55:22 CET 2015 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: 2015 All Blacks vs 1970 Brazil

The comparison can't be made because the sports are different. I hate when people (especially journalists) do this. Kind of like saying Martina Navratilova was better than Katarina Witt (or vice versa).


Entered at Sun Nov 1 12:42:29 CET 2015 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

On sport, the Sunday Times leads with:

Are New Zealand the greatest sporting team in the world, any country, any sport? Few … will argue against this theory.

For our North American readers the sport concerned is rugby. I don't watch it, just see that unaccountably proper football (Chelsea 1 Liverpool 3) doesn't appear until page TEN of the sports section. Still, it's one to consider. The writer is suggesting that this team is better than Pele's Brazil?


Entered at Sun Nov 1 05:43:46 CET 2015 from (173.3.49.223)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

It was human all right JQ, including sloppy & ugly. The physical errors i can understand, but the plain old lack of concentration and mental errors i have a real hard time with. And that holds for any team. Clutch play, clutch anything, requires full concentration. there's no room for b.s. ... On the physical errors, you can sometimes even say they result from lack of concentration, but that's a tough oneto make constant.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 05:31:51 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: MLB

Jeff - The quality aspects I refer to mostly are the entertainment, passion and the talent on display - from a fan's point-of-view. From that perspective occasional and rare errors and mishaps keep it all human. I love October baseball!


Entered at Sun Nov 1 05:23:06 CET 2015 from (173.3.49.223)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

JQ, though I'm a very casual fan of baseball, if i care at all, I'd say The Mets have been my team since i was was a little kid...still i couldn't have told you the names of any of their current players till a couple weeks ago. I disagree about the quality of the game. Both teams made mental and / or physical errors tonight. The Royals made theirs earlier, and The Mets made theirs later, with less time to recover. I think they made more errors also. Considering the level of the hitters,the pitching was pretty darn good and interesting.


Entered at Sun Nov 1 04:58:26 CET 2015 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: KC & NYM

3-1 KC! / Top notch baseball for any occasional fans here - Game 5 tomorrow.


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