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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, March 2010


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Big Bill Bluesy M. /Brown-Eyed BEG

Thanks for your lead to the Toronto Blues Society. Seems like the memberships run $30 per year so I'll hold off till we do the big move to Bracebridge in 2011 and get more mileage out of it then. Then I'll definitely want to stay in the musical loop regarding TO. I see your man Harrison Kennedy is in town in late May, but if you miss him then you can just catch him later in July in France. Too bad the Levon date at Massey Hall is about one week too early for us.

BEG. Don't worry that Massey Hall ain't no Ramble. I'm sure you'll get to one someday, even if we have to drag you along with us. The sound at Massey is considered excellent, I believe, and what Levon does in his "barn" nowadays is almost too big for that venue, sound-wise. It won't be too big a sound for Massey, which still is quite the intimate venue when compared to others. The early Rambles were a whole other story, or so I gathered in speaking to Barbara O'Brien (if I remember her name correctly). Mind you this is just the opinion of an omnifallible mortal with two hearing disorders, so I could be quite wrong(ish) about the whole thing. NB


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Ever walk down the same street for years and suddenly realize that there are bars on the street that you never have nor ever will enter.........I just surfed over to "What's New" and while there saw "Chat Room" .....a complete mystery....does anyone here ever chat? Who are these creatures that do? While living in LA years ago, I used to spend some time at the Rainbow.....funny part was upstairs where they had a little roped off VIP section in back of the dance floor...it was funny because no one ever knew who the people were in this roped off section.....all the famous folks were lying under tables on the main floor...........I think it might be the same here.....but just want to know if the GB is the main floor or is the Chat Room?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, many thanks to Tim Wood for finding those 1971 pictures. Fantastic that stuff of this quality continues to emerge.


Entered at Wed Mar 31 21:13:39 CEST 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Re TWOF, didn't Levon express regret for having allowed himself come across as bitter? We've all wished that we'd reflected a bit more before hitting SEND (or SUBMIT) - no matter the merits of our case at the time. Maybe a big smiley at the end would've helped?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Kevin's Thoughts

Understandable Kevin. I suppose if I had read the book some time ago, I may have a different opinion of it. It actually didn't affect me in any way at all. Just another one of those, "how I started in the business & my life now & then things." There were some fun parts to reminise over back in the day.

Craig made one comment I kinda agreed with some what. He said I don't think Levon did himself any favour writing that book. But...... maybe he made a little money from it.

I still think "feud" is the wrong word to use for this situation that has been kept alive by "die hard" fans that want to keep beating a dead horse. There is no feud except in some people's minds, who probably don't really understand what the word means.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Band photos

Be sure to Check out "What's New" for some great photos of The Band circa 1971.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I didn't find it in the car, but I did just rediscover a Neil Young gem, the "Broken Arrow" CD. Too many highlights to cover, but lyrically there's the following:

I went walking down Main Street,
Not the sidewalk but Main Street,
Dodging traffic with flying feet,
That's how good I felt

Having finally finished the Cream book, I dug out my best-of comp. The first song is "Wrapping Paper", which struck me like something that Ron Sexsmith used as a model - same sentence-like lines, same vocal range, same sort of romanticism ...



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Posted by:

Deb

Backatcha, Steve.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Not what's on my turntable but on my passenger seat

Roll up to a car wash today and tell the guy "outside only" as I usually do....he replied that there is no longer a lower price for "outside only"....very Toronto but ok as I was already there I got out and had them clean the inside of an already clean car.............the good news is that when I got back in there were two cd's sitting on the passenger seat that I had thought were lost...and lost some years ago! Tab Benoit's "Wetlands" and Johnny Marr's "Boomslang"......The Tab Benoit is especially good and the Johnny Marr ( creative force behind the Smiths ) doesn't hold up as well but I always enjoy listening to him play. For those not in the know - Johnny Marr would be considered one of the most influential guitar players of the 1980's. The great guitar player of the Red Hot Chilli peppers is an example of someone who was hugely influenced by Marr..............anyhow, spent $5.00 extra on a car wash but found two cd's - not bad.

Westcoaster: The "not quite die-hards" are always the ones most affected by bubble bursting bio's.....I read TWOF in one sitting and loved the first half.......felt like I was right there on the once glorious Yong Street in Toronto with the boys....fabulous descriptions of that whole scene........the second half is sad as bitterness never translates well to the page......sadly it really did hurt the legacy of the Band and many who read it came away thinking that the Last Waltz was a joke and that one of the great songwriters and guitar players in Rock n Roll history was an egomaniacal prick/thief. I always liked Rick Danko's response to a fued question and TWOF in particular.....something along the lines of "I have some issues but I will never run down The Band"


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Posted by:

Steve

Deb, every post I've ever sent your way has been good natured and will continue to be. Always read them that way, we know how posts can be misinterpreted.


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Posted by:

Steve

Just one correction to a post worthy of any gentleman, Lars. They're not Quebecers, they're both American citizens, not Canadians and have not been since the 50's in one case and the 70's in the other.

They voted with their feet and moved to where they felt more at home. I can't blame them for that, to each his own.

Norm, that was a rather violent reaction to the written word by your son. Yikes. Maybe you should hide any books that might set him off. Just a suggestion. At least he didn't throw it at you for bringing it into the house. To be on the safe side maybe you should remove, TWOF and your other two books from the house when he comes over. Remember,"safety first".

Ray, my post had nothing to do with " the feud". Just a little humor. I agree with you on Levon's "solo" work, though it's hard to think of it as solo work. As he says, he's a drummer and needs a band around him to make music.


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Posted by:

daena (said dana)

Location: florida

Subject: does anyone know ????????

does anyone know who the lead singer of a band called gallery is ?????they did the song i believe in music in the 70's .. i think the lead singer sounds like joe cocker .. does anyone know if it could have been joe cocker , or not ? i love that song.. hope everyone is doing good , and if not maybe tomorow will be your day , well bye bye all..


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

How Bob Dylan and Lou Reed became friends

March 1, 10:24 PMBob Dylan ExaminerHarold Lepidus

Happy Belated Birthday to the one and only......Louuuuuu! (March 2,1942 Also hoping he's having a good Passover along with Joan and Landy and.....Gene?)

"Lou Reed's relationship with Bob Dylan got off to a rocky start, but by the mid-1980s, they became friendly, and even worked together on certain projects.

In the mid-1960s, when the Velvet Underground was first trying to make it, someone, possibly Andy Warhol, was trying to get Dylan to see Lou Reed's young band. Robbie Robertson went to see the Velvets instead, and was not impressed. Referring to Reed, Robertson said, "That guitar player, he ain't nothin' ". Reed retorted by saying that Dylan's songs were "marijuana leftovers", and something like "Dylan is the type of person you'd want to punch out at a party."

In reality, Reed was greatly influenced by Dylan, even wearing a harmonica rack in the early days, which he abandoned to avoid any comparisons. In the mid-1960s, Reed was one of a handful of musicians writing "serious" lyrics, but was so far ahead of his time that commercial success did not arrive until the 1970s, when he was a solo artist. Even then, Reed would sabotage his career by putting out deliberately noncommercial albums, challenging and alienating his audience time and time again, until his experimental work was eventually praised years later. Much like Dylan.

In November, 1984, Lou Reed was in Los Angeles for a television appearance. Dylan was in the audience, sitting next to Reed's wife, Sylvia Morales. Halfway through Reed's performance of "Doing The Things We Want To" (which references Martin Scorsese), Dylan said to Morales, "Man, that's a great song. I wish I had written that song." When Reed heard this, he sent his roadie out to buy every Dylan album.

Later that year, Lou Reed and Bob Dylan appeared in the video for Little Steven's project, Artists United Against Apartheid. In November, Lou Reed attended a party, at the Whitney Museum, honoring Dylan. Reed and Dylan praised each other in the press, and Dylan even thanked Reed on the inner sleeve of his album, Knocked Out Loaded. Bockris wrote that despite all of this, Reed was still jealous of the praise and attention Dylan and other musicians received, even though Reed's influence in the music world was certainly in the same league as some of these artists.

Lou Reed appeared at the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Celebration Concert at Madison Square Garden, October 16, 1992. Although "Tangled Up In Blue" was allegedly considered, Reed covered the relatively obscure "Foot Of Pride", a 1983 song finally released in 1991. It was widely praised as one of the highlights of the evening. "I chose 'Foot Of Pride' because I just got back from an eight-month tour. Once a day I would listen to it and just fall down laughing. I always go out and get the latest Dylan album. Bob Dylan can turn a phrase, man. Like the album Down In The Groove, his choice of songs. 'Going Ninety Miles an Hour Down A Dead End Street' - I'd give anything if I could have written that. . . "That was as much fun as I could ever have, as much fun as anyone could legally have."


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: ray pence

Hear Hear ray. Right on. Like I said before, the so-called feud is none of our God-dammed business. We were not there. Only those five guys know what went down. Lets just enjoy and judge them on the music that they made and continue to make. It's now down to three of them left, and I would pay money to hear any one of them.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Two Photos of Robbie

Musician and music supervisor Robbie Robertson attends the "Shutter Island" special screening after party at Rouge Tomate on February 17, 2010 in New York City.
(February 16, 2010 - Photo by Michael Loccisano/Getty Images North America)

I saw Robbie on REEL INJUN on Sunday night. Robbie had two brief statements to share...with conviction of course. I thoroughly enjoyed and learned a lot from this Doc. The humour of the Native community was right on! Congrats to Neil Diamond (Director). I also caught Levon with gang on Costello's show....and yes Bill M he could barely speak so I don't know about his current shows but I'm still looking forward to seeing him in June. The most up close and personal show I experienced would be at Jeff Healey's former Blues Club where it was sooooo hot......literally and figuratively....real vibe that night......and on a Bluezzzzz Crusie in NYC with Sumlin and Dave Johansen.....night to always remember.....


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Naturally, even the lyrics' origins are a source of contention. In his book Tighten Up, Frazier writes that he dictated the lyrics to Bell the night they drove to the studio. Drummer Burns suggests Toronadoes trumpeter Clarence "Creeper" Hopper was feeding Bell the lines in the studio. Perhaps the best person to answer this would be Bell himself, but, — citing ongoing litigation in a completely unrelated case — both the singer and his attorneys declined multiple Houston Press requests for an interview. However, he did tell the Houston Chronicle earlier this year that he wrote the words based on a dance Butler invented.

"I have to give it up to Billy Butler," allows Burns. "He did come up with that dance."

Such ambiguity over a song's true origins (and authors) was all too common in those days, says Dr. Roger Wood. The author and local music scholar cites This Wheel's on Fire: Levon Helm and the Story of the Band by the celebrated Americana progenitors' former drummer as another example.

"He's got a big ax to grind because there's all these songs by the Band that Robbie Robertson gets full credit for writing," Wood says. "Levon Helm never disputes that Robbie wrote the words and the titles. What Levon complains about is how, in the studio, Robbie would describe, 'Okay, this song's going to start slow, with kind of a moody introduction.' The organ player might try something and Robbie would go, 'Yeah, give me more of that.' Levon was claiming in the studio how they created the music, that it wasn't something Robbie had written in whole cloth before the session. And I agree, that's probably the case."

One of many, Wood adds, because any music based at least in part on improvisation — blues, jazz, rock and roll, and their many descendants — is by nature collaborative. Even country would count in this category, he believes."

The TSU Toronadoes
The twisted history of "Tighten Up"
By Brett Koshkin and Chris Gray
Published: December 13, 2007


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Blues Cat and Robbie Robertson


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Subject: TWOF - & "The Winer"

A reaction that I'm sure many can understand came from my 29 year old son Craig. Last New Years Craig read This Wheels On Fire....by the fire in the family room, while we had our holidays visit.......kids.....grand kids, the whole gang, were home here for the New Years celebration.

As Craid has been singing and playing my music since he was 2 years old, and has ALWAYS been a fan of the Band his knowledge of the Band and their music, is considerable. I happened to come down stairs with my coffee right about the time he finished the book. He threw it at the wall with a disgusted look, and said, "I wish I'd never read it".

Craig is a little different kind of man tho'. Married before he was nineteen. Now has 3 children, is into his family, his job, his band, plays hockey & rugby. Would never take a drink or touch a cigarette. The kind of life portrayed, "life on the road", particularly in our time is something he doesn't care to know about.

Steve, maybe your little feelings are hurt, but it seems you will bring any stupid news aboard here that, if we care to we can all read on any number of pages of news on this internet, on TV, radio and every means of information.

Show me one person on this site who has appreciated or agreed with you over bringing this crap like that woman and her beliefs, problems or what ever she does here. It appears you bring that sort of stuff here just to have something to say. That's only one example.

It seems your only source of entertainment here is to piss people off, ridecule them, or try to come across with this holier than thou, I know more than you about everything attitude. That is the general emotional attitude of a very insecure person. I could never see any reason why you should have that problem. A lot of the time you just sound as annoying as Howie Meeker......well at least he could play hockey.


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Posted by:

Deb

That's true, Jan, about DC and General Lee both.

Nicely said, Ray. BTW, the grocery list comment was more of a dig at Steve (he and I have doing this for years, good-naturedly for the most part) than at Levon. I'm not fond of TWOF either, but I can appreciate Levon's talents as a singer, drummer and musical force. By the same token, the videos posted of Robbie's performances earlier in the week (thanks, BEG and Dee) are evidence that he is a charismatic performer with a strong body of solo work as well. I'm looking forward to his new album. Just look at the musicians who were playing with Robbie in those clips and those that play with Levon now. They are all folks of such stature that they wouldn't work with someone they considered second rate. You're right, Ray. Each man's music should be heard and judged on its own merits, removed from the other stuff.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC (it ain't the South)

To some of us, Robert E. Lee was a model citizen before, during, and after the war.

J.F.


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Posted by:

David P

And VPs named Johnson, who succeeded both assassinated presidents, is yet another one of those Lincoln/Kennedy coincidences.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)

Thanks Pat B., I was wondering if it was possible to deal with the question without dragging in other issues and alliances. Your contribution sounds credible, to say the least.

Steve and everyone, it probably wasn't a good idea for me to make light of the controversy/feud, whatever, but my comment was intended to question the idea that anyone is the guardian of the final and definitive truth about anything.

I know that there is a feeling "out there" among some folks, very good folks too, that one must take sides in all of this, and that to fail to be against someone is to fail to be for someone else, but sorry, I ain't playing, and as we approach the 20th anniversary of the publication of TWOF, well all this is increasingly tiresome.

I don't think it's asking too much for people to at least try to evaluate the merits or lack of same in the solo work of Robbie Robertson and Levon Helm on the basis of the work itself, without bringing in things that are basically no one else's business.

If the feud didn't exist, some people might not love RR's solo work, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't react to it with the verbal violence that it often brings.

And while Dirt Farmer and Electric Dirt and much else in Levon's solo career are brilliant--much of it is not, to my ears, and the feud doesn't influence that reaction one bit. He doesn't get a pass because of the feud and neither should RR's work be automatically rejected because of the same.

I am not a fan of TWOF for many reasons but I know I am a fan of Levon Helm. I'm just not crazy about ANY co-written celebrity autobiographies full of dirty laundry and the agenda of settling scores. I find them boring, depressing, and not worth my time. That is the basic reason. If that means I'm naive, fine, but it doesn't mean I dispute anything LH says. It just means, to quote Jack Kerouac, "I don't know, I don't care, and it doesn't make any difference."

OK, that is my two cents, or maybe more--I am going to shut up about this and I am sorry if I was sarcastic before--I like this GB and the people on it and I don't want to harm it in any way. Let's enjoy, live and let live, and live and let listen...I might not buy Levon's grocery list but I sure would enjoy hearing him sing it!!



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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: ....a flame, about this high....

Steve- You do irritate me, I won't deny that....but compared to George W Bush, the US Navy and Richard M. Nixon, you're like a fly buzzing around. Any time I want to actually bring you to task, all I have to do is talk about your mother's family; you know, the White Supremists of Quebec (and that's by your own admission).

Boston Corbett's mother's name was "Ruby."(....just kidding).


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Posted by:

Pat B

May 10,1865 is the day President Andrew Johnson announced the Civil War officially over.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Comma-tose.


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Posted by:

David P

Yes, and how did I forget to mention that President Ford is best known for pardoning a real Dick, who served as VP under another famous General and narrowly lost a presidential election to JFK.


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Posted by:

Steve

Lars, all these non musical posts must just be driving you crazier. David, it's about the music. Next, Normy, will be in here accusing you of posting about everything BUT music, and that just ticks him off, just ask me.


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Posted by:

Peter V

David, you've fed the conspiracy theorists by involving another Ford in this tale of Lincolns and Fords.


Entered at Tue Mar 30 20:59:55 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

And, lest we not forget, as conspiracy theorists would point out, Gerald R. Ford was the last surviving member of the Warren Commission investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy. So, in essence historically, he pardoned one Lee and helped convict another Lee.


Entered at Tue Mar 30 20:37:34 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Citizen Lee & Another Ford

Lars: Although a model of decorum, Robert E. Lee died in 1870 without technically receiving a pardon or having his citizenship restored, due to a series of bureaucratic snafus and oversights that were not corrected until over a 100 years later. The required Oath of Allegiance he executed in 1865 was apparently lost and never acted upon until it was discovered in the National Archives in 1970. Even then it took another five years before a joint Senate resolution restoring the rights of citizenship to General Robert E. Lee was signed into law by President Gerald Ford on Aughust 5, 1975.

As noted by President Ford, in his remarks upon signing the bill, General Lee, after signing his Oath of Allegiance, wrote the following in a letter to a former soldier who served under his command:

"This war, being at an end, the Southern States having laid down their arms, and the questions at issue between them and the Northern States having been decided, I believe it to be the duty of everyone to unite in the restoration of the country and the reestablishment of peace and harmony."


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Southern Ulster County

Subject: Southern Leaders After the War

Stay strong David, he's the only one on the continent who doesn't understand what a royal pain in the ass he really is. It should be noted that Robert E. Lee was a model citizen after the surrender at Appomattox. If he had told his men to fight on with guerrilla warfare, then the course of American history would have been altered.


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Posted by:

Peter V

And as we know Lincoln was killed in the Ford theatre, while JFK was killed in a Lincoln, which is made by Ford. But none of that happened on May 10th. Nor October 5th, so it's not going to be the next Dan Brown novel.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Peter V /Leon Russell

Be careful Peter, it starts with a Pete Seeger album and there is no telling were it goes from there.

I just read a somewhat silly autobiography by Chris Odell, called Miss Odell. The reason I bring it up is she had a relationship with Leon Russell. Also with The Beatles. She worked at Apple for a period of time. She was at Isle Of Wight and mentions meeting the Band. Its interesting book. Not a great book but nice light reading.


Entered at Tue Mar 30 19:04:13 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: May the 10th

Ironically, John Wilkes Booth was born on May 10, 1838. He did not live to see his 27th birthday, however, as he was killed in northern Virginia on April 26, 1865 while trying to avoid capture following the assination of President Lincoln twelve days earlier. The military tribunal trial of his alleged co-conspirators, including Dr. Samuel Mudd, began on May 9, the day before the capture of Jefferson Davis. Naturally, at the time, suspicion lingered as to whether Confederate officials & officers were complicit in the assassination/kidnap plot.

Try as he might, my policy now is to ignore all the disingenuous and otherwise ridiculous posts of a certain individual, whose only apparent goal is to foment trouble here.


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Posted by:

Peter V

BTW, for a Band / Basement connection it has Come All Ye Fair & Tender Ladies.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Folk scene

I don't know how to admit this, but I bought a Pete Seeger EP today. It's on the collectable Topic label and called "Pete and 5 Strings." I love Topic's sleeve dsigns and couldn't resist it. BUT the guy had a lovely set of Doors singles in the shop on Elektra and I wasn't tempted.


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Posted by:

Steve

David, your last post about the date is, speculatively, silly. Please stay out of my field of expertise.


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Posted by:

Steve

To continue a little further with David's linking of General Stonewall Jackson and General George Stoneman it's generally believed that Mick wanted to name the group The Stones in honor of these two fine southern men ( Virginia and Southern New York) in recognition of the southern, American influence on the early direction taken, musically, by their band.

Thanks, David, for abandoning the field and leaving it clear for me to make that musical connection.

Deb, I'd even get the groceries if Levon would sign the list and I could keep it.


Entered at Tue Mar 30 16:50:22 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Sorry Paul, I missed your earlier post. It's possible that Robbie, seeing the May 10 date of Jefferson Davis' capture listed, without reading further details about his flight from Richmond, might have assumed that he'd been apprehended there as the Confederate capital fell into Union hands.


Entered at Tue Mar 30 15:19:45 CEST 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: May the 10th

Ray: I addressed the question of the date not long ago. On May 10, 1865 Confederate President Jefferson Davis was captured by Union forces in Irwinsville, Georgia. A month earlier, just before the fall of Richmond, he, along with his wife & children and members of his cabinet fled from the Confederate Capital. Heading south, early on he narrowly avoided capture by forces led by Gen. George Stoneman. When he was finally caught in Georgia, he was heading towards Florida where he planned to sail to Texas and join rebel forces there to keep the Confederacy alive.

Two years earlier, on May 10, 1863, the Confederacy suffered another huge blow when Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson died. As a cadet at West Point, Jackson had been George Stoneman's roommate.


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Posted by:

Deb

Steve, you'd buy Levon's grocery list. :o)


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Posted by:

Steve

Ray, we're talking about TNTDODD, not TWOF.

Levon's always been satisfied with sharing the writing credit which may be why his book got written so quickly.

Maybe what's holding back Robbie from writing his own "autobiography" is his difficulty in agreeing to give Levon a co-writing credit. I'm sure Robbie wants his story to be of TNTDODD quality rather than HOHA ( Hell's Other Half Acre).

Robbie's own story in Levon's words, can't beat it. I'd buy it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Actually, I think I heard that Karen Carpenter joke here. But I have often repeated it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: We've Only Just Begun

I've defended The Carpenters in the past. (But I did also tell that long Karen Carpenter drummer joke). I think a "Best of The Carpenters" is as essential as a "Best of ABBA". Beautifully crafted pop music, excellent tunes, well played.

Every few years they can put out a retrospective CD and it sells very well, and new generations keep discovering them.


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Posted by:

Fred

Ray: it wasn't my intention to slag off The Carpenters. Although I'm not a fan I can appreciate the fine crafted pop tunes. I am still perplexed about their continued success in Japan.

my theory: I blame the education system, more specifically the teaching of English, as junior high & high school teachers throughout the Empire of Japan regularly play a Carpenters tune or two during lessons..brainwashing the kiddies. : )

I'd say that the big 3 in terms of long-standing popularity in Japan (and by no means am I the definite authority on this): The Beatles, The Carpenters and Queen.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Actaully, Ray...

I'm prety sure there are some other Carpenter Fans out here... I remember mentioning the marvellous tribute album 'If I was a Carpenter', and either Peter V or David P (or both) expressed much admiration for it. But certainly, first in a while, and never not appreciated...


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)

Subject: questions about Dixie Down?

"There's only one way to put to rest the question of why Robbie used May 10th. Ask Levon."

...or Stephen Davis?


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)

Subject: in defense of the Carpenters or at least their following in Japan and elsewhere

Hi Fred,

point taken, and this is a Band site, but I wouldn't use the widespread following for the Carpenters as evidence of bad taste in music, rather simply as taste for pop music that does happen to be well-performed and professional, by two people who worked hard and did pay dues--compare the Carpenters' music to today's top 40 pop and I think they hold up very well indeed--

Very easy to dismiss such music, but Karen Carpenter did have an appealing and unique voice and a compelling, tragic story. There is merit in their work, though I have none of it in my collection...

...And with that, I've probably made some sort of history as the first person on this GB to go on at length and in defense of the Carpenters...for what it's worth!! (I'll brace for some barbs now...)


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: May 10th....

was used 'cause it was the day my grandmother was born**. There...debate settled. : )

Jan F: I'm on the not-so-sunny-today, sub-tropical paradise of Okinawa. The place where your son is I know of (having never been there, though) because one brother-in-law lived there several years ago and my niece was born there.

** sadly not in 1865 , but 1901.


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Posted by:

Steve

There's only one way to put to rest the question of why Robbie used May 10th. Ask Levon.


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Posted by:

Paul Yuellig

Location: Cincinnati, Ohio

Subject: May 10th in "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down"

The May 10th reference could have been used because two significant events took place during The Civil War on that date though, in different years. It was on May 10th, 1863 that "Stonewall" Jackson died, following the Battle of Chancellorsville. And, as was previously pointed out, Jefferson Davis was captured on May 10th in 1865, marking the formal end to the war...a kind of Civil War "checkmate". Robbie may have consolidated the defeat of the South into that date.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Billy Connolly

Now that is one extraordinary individual. I know one of his daughters, fascinating.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Various

Peter V:Whatever you call that music in Hull it's a great line up. Pentangle, Stealers Wheel, Gerry Rafferty, Billy Connolly, City to City and Baker Street, the greatest Beatles album cover, Paul Simon, Lindisfarne - all related to these artists you mentioned.

Steve Absolutely great album. Love down by the H M.

Bill M:Enjoy the Canadian music tales. Thanks.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Woodstock Rockers Then and Now....Levon Helm


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Current "We Five"

Bill M. - I'm pretty sure that the currently performing carnation of We Five has very few original members, including, sadly, the original lead singer.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Huuuuge Robbie Photo


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie and Levon Photo

"Robertson claims that his workhorse Band-era Tele was stolen, thus hastening his move to Stratocasters. Maybe its the one pictured here (hes playing beside an Epiphone Riviera-toting Levon Helm), which sports a maple neck. Clearly, the man liked to keep his options open."


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Leon Russell

Gene: Mr. Russell underwent brain surgery in January to "relieve a chronic condition". It's amazing that he was able to perform with the Zac Brown Band at the Grammy Awards just weeks after his operation. He's also reportedly working on an upcoming album project with Elton John, Bernie Taupin and T Bone Burnett.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Meant Grammys

not 'Emmys'


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Leon Russell

Leon Russell was fantastic back in the Shelter People days, I saw him live several times. It was surprising to see him perform on the Emmys, recently, he doesn't look like he is in great health. (Also enjoyed Pink's performance!)

Thanks for the info, David P. Your input is greatly appreciated!


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, thanks for the link. It was well worth tying up the phone line for half an hour or so to download it. Had me grinning by the second verse.

I really have to add Mr. Sexsmith to my collection! I found the performers eye shifting pretty amusing. wish I could see what he's looking at. Quite the recording studio. Like the singer, nice pipes.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Leon Russell

I posted this before, but just after Mad Dogs, Leon Russell toured the UK. I bought tickets to see him in the 2200 seat Winter Gardens in Bournemouth. It was deserted. They asked us all to move out of the cheap seats to the front. The whole lot of us filled about four rows of the centre block (out of five blocks).

But they gave a full-on show and Clydie King was one of the best vocalists I've ever watched. Fantastic and no sign that they were playing to a really tiny audience.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Between his departure from the Dylan tour and his arrival in Woodstock prior to Big Pink, Levon Helm spent time living in LA and gigging with Leon Russell, Jess Ed Davis and others from the Oklahoma crowd. Sandy Konikoff spent some time crashing on Levon's couch, and those same associations got him onto Cocker's "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" album, Delaney and Bonnie's "Motel Shot", Jesse Ed's solo LP ...


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Neon Leon

David; I did know that. All you gotta do is listen to him talk anyway. Doesn't seem most of the guys in music look like those "Long Haired Country Boys" any more.

You may recall a video of Vinve Gill's, "Don't Let Our Love Start Slippin' Away". Leon is at the piano, still with that hair, beard & cowboy hat. All White now.

A huge cast of stars in that vid. I'm not into a lot of music videos, but that is a great one. Too many stars in there to name.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Claude/Leon/Hank

westcoaster: "Leon" Claude Russell Bridges, a/k/a Hank Wilson, is indeed a real Okie.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: However!!!!!

Concerning, "The Letter". The Box Tops I still like best ....but....To watch Joe Cocker, "spaz-out" on that Mad Dogs & Englishmen show is something else. Along with Leon Russell's piano work, (that is great). Leon's long hair, beard, and cowboy hat, he looks like a real hill billie.

But the funkie style they play that song is a good sound. I just watched the youtube of it, and still gotta laugh at Joe Cocker's style.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Folk scene

I sat through hours of it. Folk club every Monday night (Al Stewart a regular), then always off to another one later in the week. I can probably recite both Chastity Belt and Deportees from memory (both were compulsory every night in Britain, one jocular, one serious. You choose which). Then in Hull I never missed it (we did have Davy Graham, Bert Jansch, Michael Chapman, The Humblebums, Martin Carthy, John Renbourn and others play the folk club).

I even bought the Topic Records box set before Christmas, and it's up there with the Motown Singles year-by-year box sets for annotations, design and desirability. I'm not averse to strummers as such, and have more Peter, Paul & Mary 45s and EPs than I'd like to own up to, but it is a different kind of thing. There was a point about strummers (and sopranos).


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Box Tops - Alex Chilton

It may have been mentioned here, as I was out at sea, I don't think I've noticed. Alex Chilton passed away just a few days back. Oddly enough, not long ago I was on youtube, reminising with some old tunes, and watched a couple of vids of the Box Tops doing Soul Deep and The Letter.

It was odd to watch Alex Chilton sing Soul Deep. He stood with his hands by his sides, and never moved. It sort of seemed the rest of the guys were trying to makew him laugh. He grinned slightly, but never moved, tapped his toe, swung to the music nothing. It looked kinda funny.

As Peter has said tho, I would take their recording of that song over any other. Alex Chilton had a great voice for those songs, and they are classics.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: green grow the rushes oh

David P / Peter V: Speaking of Fred Carter, another early version of "Soul Deep" was by Robbie Lane and the Disciples, aka the immediately post-Levon Hawks, produced by Fred in Nashville in '65 or '66 - though unreleased until the '90s.

And speaking of the Hawks and strummers, let us not forget Hawkins' Roulette 45 "The Ballad Of Caryl Chessman" / "The Death Of Floyd Collins" - possibly his worst, though there are any number of contenders for that particular crown. The anal retentives among us will want to be sure to collect both the 45 that says "The Death Of .." and the 45 that says "The Tale Of ..." As for Robbie and folk, I don't see Robbie painting himself as Bluto, or even as ignorant of folk music, but as someone who didn't really like it all that much. A defensible position, surely.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Great Folk Scare of the '60s

As early as 1960 Robbie was strumming along to some folk-style tunes recorded by the Hawk that were included on "The Folk Ballads of Ronnie Hawkins. Those songs, recorded in Nashville, were "Summertime", "I Gave My Love A Cherry", "John Henry" and "(Sometimes I Feel Like A) Motherless Child" and also featured Levon, Fred Carter Jr., Stan Szelest, session bassist Bob Moore, and the Anita Kerr singers.

While Robbie likes to give the impression that he would have reacted like Bluto (John Belushi) in Animal House upon hearing someone strum a song like "I Gave My Love A Cherry", the truth is that, regardless of whether or not he liked folk music, he was well aware of its importance in the '60s music scene.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Soul Deep

Speaking of Bruce Springsteen, AND speaking of Alex Chilton, I was listening to the Springsteen-produced version of Soul Deep by Gary US Bonds, which was a minor hit when Bruce helped revive his career. That got me onto Wayne Carson, then Clarence Carter, then The Box Tops, then that Jericho outtake Band version. The conclusion I came to was that it's pretty hard to do a bad version of that song. Levon's voice really suited the song too, and the bootleg version is better than a whole lot of stuff on the 90s albums, basically because it's an intrinsically great song.

Much as I wish The Band had finished it off, I'd choose The Box Tops single if I could only have one version.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Fred, if you've ever said, I've forgotten, but where are you living in Japan? My son is living in Kure, a few miles south of Hiroshima.

Jan F.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Speaking of Ian Tyson, when I first heard Roseanne Cash's lovely recent remake of "Sea Of Heartbreak" I wondered if the deep warbling harmony voice was being sung by Ian Tyson, though I should've recalled that his voice has evolved into something whispier. Nope - it was Bruce Springsteen.


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Posted by:

Steve

Personally, I always preferred Neil and Nicolette's version of Four Strong Winds. Their voices work so much better together than I and S. I prefer Ian's solo work to his singing with Sylvia.

I'll have to listen to some of their stuff again, it's been decades but I just don't remember Sylvia's voice working with Ian's, at least for me.


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Posted by:

Steve

Just to correct a small but understandable error by, Norm, Four Strong Winds is not Alberta's theme song.

Four Strong Winds was in the running in 2005 when Alberta officially chose a theme song for the province but was beaten out by ," Alberta" a song written by, Mary Kieftenbeld, someone, Norm, probably hasn't had any bar stool chats with or he wouldn't have made that forgivable oversight.

As per your forceful suggestion, Norm, I'm trying to stick to music related topics. Thank for the continued opportunity to be helpful in that respect.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Mighty Wind

As I'm sure PBS knows, there's no "right" answer about what you should like. You Were On My Mind has been on my mind today. The YouTube Ian & Sylvia version was live and 80s so I traced back on iTunes. The version on The Best of the Vanguard Years is I guess the original. At this point, with no preconceptions, I'd say it was a very good song given a rather anodyne folk club setting, and like the We Five version, reminded me strongly of The Seekers. It looks from a rough look as if the We Five introduced a good bass line which was seized upon and improved upon by the arrangers of St. Peters' version. Slowing and making it more dramatic helps a lot. Until Dylan gave The Hawks a crash-course in folk, they were dismissive of stuff like Ian & Sylvia as "strummers." I think they had a point.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Lars Peter V: I always liked We Five's version better and I&S's, though part of that may be that it was buried pretty deep in my brain long before I knew that S had written the song and even longer before I heard the original. I've heard Crispian St Peter's version just once, on oldies radio a couple of years ago, and it knocked me out. (I say 'knocked me out' because it's the sort of thing they say on the PBS music specials that are running during fundraising week, as Kevin noted recently; on Saturday I even caught the aging We Five on one of them, with the singer now looking a fair bit like Dionne Warwick.)

Dunc: Yes, a small world. Murray's first writing credit was for "Coat Of Colours", the b-side to Bruce Cockburn's first writing credit, for Bird Without Wings, a lovely 1968 single for Three's A Crowd.

Gene: The poster who's referred repeated to the sex-change thing is not our farming friend but another of our respected regulars.

Kristie: Seconding Joan, welcome back!

BEG: Thanks for the Winchester link. A very moving song. Gotta think that Neko's got an declining (or recently declined) parent or grandparent. I followed the link to Ron Sexsmith doing "Secret Heart", which was nice, and from there got to Feist doing the same song live in Paris (France, I assume) - interesting intro, and a great version.

Steve: Because Sexsmith singing what I think is his most brilliant song - a rare political one - is not on YouTube, I've linked you to some unknown guy doing a nice job of it. I love the first verse, and also the "God so loved the idiot world" verse.

Presumably many of you also saw Levon on Elvis last night. Too bad his voice was shot, as the set-up was great: Allan Toussaint on keys, Nick Lowe on bass, Richard Thompson on astounding guitar - each doing killer versions of a song of his own then helping Levon through "The Weight" - but obviously Levon wasn't up to singing so Ray Lamontagne was dragooned in at the last minute to sing the opening version. Still, it was was very special. And it was nice to hear, earlier in the show, Toussaint talking about arranging for the Band, and then Lowe talking about the Band rehearsing at the Brinsleys' house prior to Wembley), and then Thompson talking about Big Pink inspiring the Fairports to mine their own British cultural traditions.


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Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of brotherly love
Web: My link

Subject: You Were On My Mind

Northern Journey is a great, great album, and those who KNOW, realize and knew at the time that We Five basically ruined a great song. What makes the song is the harmonies combined with Ian Tyson's great 12 lick and Sylvia Fricker's autoharp.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Linda Ronstadt's "Heart Like A Wheel"

Gene: Addressing your earlier question regarding the Audio Fidelity gold-CD reissue -- I don't believe mastering engineer Steve Hoffman really clipped off the high end. As he noted on his own web site at the time he remastered the album, he used the only master mix tape, rather than the EQ'd production copy used by others. He pointed out that, without remixing, "the album is always going to sound 'thuddy'", because too much compression was applied using the (Universal Audio) 1176 limiting amp. The EQ copy he chose not to use had an 8k boost and further compression, so other versions sourced from it will sound different from the original master.

That said -- I think the Audio Fidelity reissue sounds great to me, with plenty of proper high end, without the frequency boost & added compression that many listeners today have sadly grown accustomed to. I would also note that the new reissue is HDCD encoded, but still sounds fine when played on standard players without that feature.


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Posted by:

Atom Heart Father

Location: West Saugerties, NY

Subject: Levon & Garth in Europe in May?

Hm. There are rumors flying around here in upstate NY about Levon & Garth et. al reuniting as "The Band" for some special, extremely well-paid, event in Northern Europe or Scandinavia in two months time? Anyone at The Band site know about this?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Ian Tyson

David; I too have the old vinynl "Northern Journey", and as we've discussed before, it bares repeating.

In a conversation with Ian many years ago, (actually 1987 I think) he told me he bought his ranch in Alberta with royalty money from Neil Young's cover of "Four Strong Winds". He also told me, at that time, "Someday Soon" had been recorded 104 times in different languages. According to him, the most recorded country song ever.

I still always like that story in a doc. I watched where in a discussion over Dylan's, "Blowin in the Wind", in New York, Ian said,"Well I could do that." Borrowed a friend's apartment, went over there and wrote that song, which became the theme song of Alberta.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: Ian & Sylvia

I have a copy of Ian & Sylvia's 1964 Vanguard LP "Northern Journey" which includes the original version of Ms. Fricker Tyson's "You Were On My Mind". That album is also notable for including the original version of Mr. Tyson's "Someday Soon", later successfully covered by Judy Collins. Of course, the title song from their previous album, "Four Strong Winds", was the most frequently covered of their songs. One can't help but note that the covers of those three songs have undoubtedly provided more financial rewards for Ian & Sylvia then they received for their own recordings.

Ian & Sylvia recorded "You Were On My Mind" yet again, as it was the title song of their 1972 Columbia album with The Great Speckled Bird. That record was co-produced by Mr. Tyson and Ben Keith and also included a cover of "Get Up Jake", adding a another link to The Band.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: When I Woke Up This Morning

A bit more googling. I'll you what, Ian & Sylvia Tyson certainly overturn my old belief that the originals are best. We Five improved the song vastly, then Crispian St. Peters improved it yet more.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: 1965

Subject: You Were On My Mind

The "We Five" was my favorite folk group back in the mid-60's. They had an album with a number of songs I liked and I wore the needle out listening to them. They did come out with a second album (there may have been more than two, but I'm not aware of it) called "Make Someone Happy," but that record seem to consist of covers of older songs and broadway hits. I heard that Beverly Bevins, the lead singer, left the group for personal reasons around 1967.

Pat, I'd advise you not to look, but if you go into Youtube and search "Beverly Bevins" you will see what your object of affection looked like in the fall of 2009. She is shown in a San Francisco "oldies show" and is trying to turn back the clock. Kind of sad.


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Posted by:

Steve

Dunc, since I pushed, Let's Frolic Again, so hard here in the GB, I've taken it on as a musical project.

For the first time I'm learning to play and sing all the songs on an album, except Red Red Robin of course.

I've even enticed 4 members of Marge's musical family to learn 6 of the songs so we can do a family tribute to BARK at our annual family rendez-vous.

If Garth would drop by with his accordion we could really frolic.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: You Were On My Mind

I just spent twenty minutes watching various version. We Five are better live than lip-synching to the record which is most unusual for the era. Fred Astaire weirdly doesn't know rule one about TV presenting, stay reasonably still and don't make distracting movements. There's a great bass line already there on the We Five version (the YouTube comments /notes say he was later Neil Diamond's bass player) but the UK arranger brought it right up front and slowed it right down.

Crispian St. Peters had a huge US hit with Pied Piper shortly after You Were On My Mind (which was the bigger hit here).

We Five reminded me strongly of the original The Seekers at the same time, and YouTube thought the same, because they have The Seekers in their related videos column.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: We Five: You were On My Mind

Thanks for the link, Pat. A very nice young lady she is, too. This comes from that 1965-66 period when British and US charts often diverged quite radically. In the UK, it was a #2 hit for Crispian St. Peters, and for me, We Five sound really lame. That's because I've never heard it before, and the Crispian St. Peters version had this prominent crunchy bass line that made the song. It was never a favourite, but it was a mega hit so very familiar. I hadn't even realized it was a Tyson song nor that there were any other covers. Check out the Crispian St. Peters, but it might not be on US iTunes, as the We Five version isn't on British iTunes. If you check it, note that he's re-recorded it several times and you want the original 60s hit.

The divergence in 65-66 was so strong that I made up a Playlist of big US hits of those couple of years that are largely unfamiliar to British listeners. The We Five version needs adding to it. It may be better, it's just a shock. It's chirpy where the St. Peters was urgent, and the British arranger, whoever it was, significantly improved the song. I think St. Peters (with the silly name) was one of those front singers of the 60s, equivalent to modern boy bands.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: The Carpenters are HUGE in Japan (Still!!)

Angelina: nice links.

SOME people in Japan have good taste in music...not all. : )

I think in the pre-internet age that radio, more specifically the accessibility to the US Armed Forces Radio Network, had a bit of an impact on certain segments (and age groups) of the Japanese population in regards to what kind of music they like(d).


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Posted by:

ray pence

Subject: shutter island

Peter V--agreed. An impressive and, so far, underrated film. Outstanding DiCaprio performance and yet another piece of evidence against the assumption that Scorsese only does mob/Catholic guilt movies--most of his movies are not mob related at all. (They do tend to be his best films, though...)

a dynamite cast overall, with Sir Ben a real pleasure throughout.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Subject: japan appreciates robbie, levon, the band

no doubt about it, brown eyed girl.

Japanese people have great tastes in music and that includes the Band. I've been there and their shops are well-stocked with Band group and solo albums.

I was mildly surprised by that because I wasn't sure their music would translate (literally and culturally) so well in Japan, but it obviously does. I would like to find out exactly why--there must be some cultural reasons that are intriguing.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland lawrence KS

Subject: bob dylan's civil rights years

hello everyone...

Well, I was watching a rerun of David Letterman and he mentioned that Bob Dylan played at the White House--the OBAMA White House, damn it always feels good to type that...for Black History Month.

and the audience roared with laughter, more than for some of his intentional jokes.

Now i don't mean to be too strict here, but the fact that today's audiences don't realize that Dylan was quite the civil rights figure for a while there--as in playing on the same bill as Martin Luther King, Jr. at the March on Washington for goodness sake...

Yet another example of how so many Americans just don't know much about history...and that's not dry history either, that's important and immediate stuff...

Dylan's gone thru lots of changes, but the fact that he would be a guest of honor for the 2010 Black History Gala at the OBAMA White House means that some things about Dylan do endure.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Gene, when I was young I was so in love with this woman I could hardly stand it. btw, the "heathen" remark cracked me up.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: my neck of the woods, obviously.

Subject: Gene

Understood, and fair enough.

Omnifallibly yours,

NB.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For those of you who don't have it.....Here's Robbie and Aaron Neville's complete download of CRAZY LOVE for your iTunes.

How was the music and the soul of the people in South America Kristie? A co-worker was in Chile and Argentina as well and would go back in a heart beat. Costello with Levon and the fabulous Richard Thompson and others was first aired in December in the US. I missed the show last night but had already seen the video clips. I can't wait until June to finally HEAR LEVON SING, SING, SING! Yeah!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Down By The Henry Moore

Bill M, Steve:Still loving 'Down by the Henry Moore' and just found out that Murray McLauchlan was born near where I live now and moved to Canada when he was 5. It's a small world.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: David P

Play that Boxtops CD regularly.

Play Spooner Oldham and Dan Penn live in Dublin all the time.

And from time to time I play Big Star who hugely influenced some successful Scottish bands, not my era, but one includes Bobby Gillespie.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie

Welcome back!


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: the innocent woodlands of ny

Subject: The evils of starting work at an ungodly hour

Ilkka- promise me the next time you feel like working in the early morning you'll start drinking schnappes instead.

Every Friday night, and quite often on Saturday nights too, Garth Hudson orders take-out from the kitchen of High Falls Cafe. He was there when the Bush Brothers played on March 13th. According to the owner, he recently asked permission to bring his accordian inside and sit in with whatever local band is playing. I would have loved to have seen him go up on the 13th....maybe "Acadian Driftwood"...?


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Posted by:

Kristie

Hello, all! I hope everyone had a great fall and holiday season. I am back in Canada after a wonderful four and a half months spent hiking in Chile and Argentina. Very hard to leave the Andes, but I did miss my records. The first thing I did when I got home was put on "Stagefright." I missed the boys voices. Just thought I would check in and say Hi. P.S. Enjoyed Levon's smile on Elvis Costello last night.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hey Ilkka....Here's Robbie outside our Roots Store during International Film Festival with Roots and Climate Crisis Add. I turned off the computer and lights last night for EARTH HOUR. imagezulu was on the sofa listening to his beloved blues and jazz on his ipod with candles. I was upstairs on my yoga mat listening to my Nano on Shuffle while I did stretches and crunches. On Friday all the schools honoured EARTH HOUR by turning off all electricity from 2:00-3:00. At this time we went outside for a walk around our community playing various rhythm instruments and chanting "EARTH HOUR TURN OFF THE POWER"!

Re expensive Roots Store.....As I'm a Frugalista.....My Roots clothing is from Consignment Stores and my purses were bought for 5.00 at our Cabbagetown Festival and knapsack for 8.00 from ValuVillage (Bill M buys some of his records here) and 40.00 from St. Lawrence Market.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: ALEX CHILTON RESTS HIS SOUL DEEP IN PEACE

From a Box Top to a Big Star and beyond, Alex Chilton's journey here, from Memphis to New Orleans and points in between, has come to an end. Yesterday, at a used record store by the rail road tracks in a small Georgia town, I found a copy of the 1982 Rhino LP of THE BOX TOPS GREATEST HITS for five dollars. For this modest investment I received the confirmation that Mr. Chilton's soulful, weathered voice lives on in music. As a young man, he took three perfectly written songs by Wayne Carson Thompson, THE LETTER, SOUL DEEP and NEON RAINBOW, and performed magic with that voice. Add a dash of Dan Penn/Spooner Oldham classics like CRY LIKE A BABY, the novelty SWEET CREAM LADIES, FORWARD MARCH and a short journey on Donny Fritts and Eddie Hinton's CHOO CHOO TRAIN and I was well on the way. Then there's the Dylan/Band connection with a wonderful reading of I SHALL BE RELEASED that's a perfect spiritual match with Penn/Oldham's I MET HER IN CHURCH. Then there's the revelation of things to come with Mr. Chilton's own composition THE HAPPY SONG, dramatic proof that his great voice could soar when freed of the dictates of the production team. Yes, Alex Chilton was a contrary, eccentric man, but when he graced us with that voice, deep from the soul, we caught glimpses of the light that burns neon bright in the darkness of night.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hey Fred. I see the people of Japan love Robbie's guitars too.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: photo's

Are there any good photos out there during the too brief Jim Weider, Richard Manuel era of The Band? I have seen the one of them on the steps of Studio 54? anyone know of anything else? Thanks


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Price Alert: LCD TV (Home Movies) Sony KDL55X4500

After 4 month of useless waiting for the Phillips 52PFL9704 TV (and now knowing they skip the series cause of all kinds of problems) we cancelled the order last week. Surfing the net for replacement I discovered the Sony KDL55X4500 (superb picture and sound), and ordered it last Friday. This TV is is on the marked for about a year and was Sonys top model. Think they replace it soon, causing prices to drop rapidly. And although my wife thinks its a little too big (nonsense, just the usual optical illusion) its a bargain for 2600,-. My only concern is its 8ms reaction time (slow for a modern TV), hope it doesnt bother us (else I sent it back.) Anyway for those looking for a new TV, its well worth checking (see the link).


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Hachiko

Those who like Shutter Island will also like Hachiko, a Dogs Story . Richard Gere at his best and a dog that burns Lassie out of your system for ever. Although Hachiko is an early evening movie, plan Shutter in front and have a miracle evening.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Making a statement against emissions that lead to global warming.

Lars, I have EARTH HOUR every evening. I go to bed at 8 pm and turn off the light because I must wake up at 4.30 am (starting to work at 5.30 am). I must be as good person as Mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela!

For your personal interest I can tell that there was a thunder storm last night in Vxjo county. Seven houses were burned down in the middle of the winter! Unbelievable.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Another Day Another Coulter Booster

Gene, are you just trying to piss off Lars, David and Norm by keeping that Coulter thread going? Stop beating that dead horse, give her a rest.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jack Merrill

A question from a friend of mine. He's just picked up an LP called "Help" by a band named Help, MCA, 1971.It's pleasant country rock that he describes as "EARLY Eagles" in style.

The principle singer / writer is Jack Merrill. He's Googled and found a different LP called "Second Coming" by Help. The one he has is presumably earlier (i.e, first!). I seem to recall Jack Merrill being mentioned here? If so, any enlightenment would be gratefully received.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: NB

NB - my comment about 'bashing transgender' was directed at that farm guy who has referred to Ann C, from time to time, as a 'sex change', in a derogatory way. For a self-professed 'liberal' he is, maybe, too liberal with his bigoted comments.

Pat B - you old heathen :) thanks for the info on Pizza Hut in Franklin. I haven't been there in ages, maybe it's time to visit the Carter House, again.

Thoughts on covers that knock the socks off the originals: 'You Were On My Mind" by We Five and "My Back Pages" by the Byrds.

David P - I am tempted to get the DDC Gold "Heart Like A Wheel" Ronstadt, that you mentioned, but I've seen reviews that indicate this version sounds like the high end is clipped. Do you think so?


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks, Peter. I'll try and get to it before it's gone. We tried to see Alice in Wonderland a few weeks ago but it was sold out when we got there and haven't been back to town since. I'd like to see that one as well, though I've heard only moderately good reviews.


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Posted by:

Peter V

It's visually stunning throughout as are the locations. I thought Di Caprio was brilliant (after the first ten minutes).As some reviewers said, his face is naturally babyfaced which as in previous Scorsese outings is something he has to get past. He does. It's very chilling, but also gripping. I won't give away the twists, but they're almighty twists and those coming out of the cinema were somewhat irritated by that (and unsure what had happened). Yes, it's worth it. It's big screen stuff definitely and actually I wouldn't want to watch it late at night at home!

Over two hours passed very quickly indeed. We'd intended to see Alice in Wonderland, but that was over an hour's wait and Shutter Island was just beginning.We were in Southampton and it was an impulse to go to the 14 screen as with that many, something good is always starting soon.


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Posted by:

Steve

But Peter, did you like the movie?

The three 18 to 20 year old boys who live here saw it and gave it two ( I guess that would be 6) thumbs down but I don't always agree with their reviews. I haven't seen it yet but it's still playing in Sherbrooke. Is it worth the time and money?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Shutter Island

I saw this today. The soundtrack is totally brilliant (and a delight to see Robbie's name writ large at the end). I bought the OST album and was enjoying it, but having seen the chilling film sequences that go with it, I can't think of it as listening for pleasure again! But effectual! Yes.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Pine Bush, NY

Subject: Earth Hour

I was just on the phone (skype, actually) to Africa and the lights are out over there, in observance of Earth Hour. I heard that people shut off their lights in Greece, too....probably happening all over God's good earth....people making a statement against emissions that lead to global warming.

STEVE- why don't you shove a cork up your sorry ass, if you're not going to do anything about your cattle fouling the air with their flatulence?


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Fred / Listening

I no longer have any "record" stores around me. There's A second-hand place which is fun but not current. I really like to have an album in my hands. I like to sit and listen and read the liner notes (when there are any). I sometimes try to play music as background, but I find myself not paying attention to the task I'm doing and listening to the music instead.. I will be very sad when the day comes that all music is from downloads. I'm not technophobic, I just like the cd/vinyl experience.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Job Application.....

Required by Norweigan Webmaster;- Computer operator programmer:- This is a full time positon the successful applicant must have - computer with high speed internet access - also (spare computer with several spare parts, in particular spare delete buttons as they wear out quickly). The job requires operative to be prepared to work 24/7 to:

Delete posts from Quebec farm boy - as these posts are:-

Obnoxious, stupid, boring, have no content even remotely related to music, or anything of any interest. Take up vast amounts of space, and cause an enormous amount of "air pollution", that can be better used to keep the planet "green".

This is a "full time position". Contract negotiable, payment by word deletion.......(You could become very wealthy in a short period of time.)....APPLY WITHIN


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and for Charlie.....Jesse Winchester who blew Elvis away at rehearsal and live on his show....and Neko was so moved you can see tears roll down her face.
Thanks again Charlie for encouraging me to meet Jesse when I saw him at Hugh's Room. When I saw him at The Horseshoe.....wow....


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Kevin J. I also caught that great show with Elvis Costello and Ronsexsmith and Neko Case and Jesse Winchester. Cheryl Crow was there too but I don't like her songwriting or singing....but she seems cool. :-D For those who missed it.....Here's our Ron Sexsmith who Robbie also likes and who I saw come as a fan to our Concert for Against Landmines with Emmylouuuu, Earle, Cockburn....and......Who's the American singer-songwriter who tells great stories and has a moustache and is short and has more of a cult following? Sorry.....going blank here....


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Posted by:

Steve

Fred, unless otherwise instructed I'll assume you're still using the same account as last time.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Sunday March 28 at 10 pm ET/PT on CBC News Network.

"The Passionate Eye is airing the shorter TV version of Reel Injun. Cree filmmaker Neil Diamond takes an entertaining and insightful look at the Hollywood Indian, exploring the portrayal of North American Natives through a century of cinema."

Hopefully on this shorter version we'll see and hear Robbie's take on the Reel Injun.

Hi Bonk. Yup, still here in Cabbagetown but hope when I retire to be somewhere else.

Hi Freddie. Hi Deee. Your link brings us back to the one I just posted. The one PB posted was from a long time ago as well because you can see all the hits on the site. It's all a blur to me sometimes. lol Thanks for keeping the link. I keep the links too.....re Robbie mostly.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: No thanks needed

Steve: just don't forget to deposit my cut of the winnings in my super secret bank account in the Caymans.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Put A Burka On It

Fred, thanks for keeping The Coulter Affair alive long enough for me to make one final comment.

After getting my first look at Coulter last night on the news, I'd have to say the most contentious comment made on the subject would have to be Joan's.

Using, Coulter, and pretty in the same sentence is highly provocative.

As I was sitting there watching this hard edged face covered in long lifeless hair, which was being swished out of the way by the side to side snapping of an abnormally long, serpent like neck, I was struck by the resemblance of the head to the breed named for one of Ms. Coulter's main targets of abuse, The Afghan.

In Ms. Coulter's case I would withhold my objection to the wearing of the burka. I also apologize for any offense taken by admirers of the breed. None was intended.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Ophelia

thanks for the heads up about the Tokyo 83 recording. From what I heard of it it is superior to the Vancouver show.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Private Eye magazine has a section called Pseud's Corner where they present pompous intellectually-snooty pieces from the press. I fear that this might be my entry, but here we go anyway

The other point the article makes is that we "listen while " now rather than "listen." I'm guilty of that all day, but I find quite often that playing an album a couple of times in the background is a good prelude to sitting and just listening to it later. I think "in car" on a long motorway journey is pretty focussed on music rather than just "while doing something."

But increasingly we don't make the space to just listen. Mrs V likes to meditate. I prefer to use the same time to sit down (or often lie down on the sofa) and listen to a piece of music, and for that meditative-like purpose I often choose classical, with Ravel's Piano Concerto in G being my most played bit of music.

It also makes me think of the different way we listen to rock and classical. With rock the original version is usually the best, and while we might like live versions, few cover versions make the mark. With classical it's about the pleasure of different interpretations. So Bernstein's version of Ravel (playing piano himself) has emotion no other version touches. But the Montreal / Dutoit version has a clarity that's great. The Bournemouth Symphony is a murky, misty version that sets a different mood. I never, never do the hi-fi buff "comparative listening" on them, but I do play different versions (We have accumulated about eight or nine versions) on different days.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: iTunes

Thanks, Fred. I liked the line about "making music less sacred." In my office at home I have a CD player about five feet away feeding hi-fi speakers, and I have little speakers attached to my computer. I was increasingly using the computer for music instead of walking five feet and hearing it through better speakers because of that "instant selection" possibility. I improved things first by adding a record deck to the office hi fi and playing vinyl, then by digging out the 20 year old Quad amp and Quad CD player that was barely used in another room and ditching the Sony ES system that had been there for years. The change improved sound so much that it's really worth walking the five feet to put on a CD or LP instead of using the computer.


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Posted by:

Fred

Web: My link

Subject: Read & Discuss

This seemed interesting. Better than an ongoing debate regarding Ann Coulter, anyhow. : )


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: addendum ...

I don't want anybody to think I'm saying that John Simon wouldn't've known one from the other even if he'd been holding one or the other LP or CD or cassette or 8-track in his hand or hands.


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Posted by:

Steve

tell me I don't know how to draw you in, David. Cahoots and Stage Fright are hard to confuse especially when you're holding one of them in your hand looking at the liner notes.But I digress. The point about the AMH version is that while it's obviously in the studio, it's live or off the floor if you prefer without being overdubbed, as in Richard is not playing drums and over dubbing his vocal.

It would also remove Robbie from the piano since he's playing guitar.

It would seem that Richard is playing piano and singing and Levon is playing drums. Since the drums are close to identical on the "studio version" on Cahoots, that might answer Ari's question. Thanks for finally getting involved, just don't force me to drag you in like this on matters of importance in the future.


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: I don't know why, but it's not the first time that "Stage Fright" and "Cahoots" have been confused. There's just something about them. I can't help but think that that's why John Simon said in a '90s (?) interview that he'd had little to do with "Stage Fright", whereas in truth he'd had an awful lot to do with it at every step of the way - he was really talking about "Cahoots".

"Endless Sleep" - always a good song. The version I like is the b-side of the Poppy Family's "Which Way You Going Billy". As for the Youngbloods, the Cream bio that I'm reading has Pappalardi saying that Ertegum hired him to work with Cream on the basis of his work with the Youngbloods.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl & Aluminum Siding

I've said all I have to say on that other subject, as there's no way to win a pissing contest with someone who's full of that.

Just to set the facts straight on "4% Pantomime" -- the version on AMH is an alternate, previously unissued studio recording, apparently an early run-though of the song. The previously released Bearsville studio version was on "Cahoots", not "Stage Fright".

Currently spinning on my turntable:

"The Endless Sleep" b/w "Tight Capris" by Jody Reynolds (1958 Demon 45 single)
The Youngbloods' eponymous debut LP (new mono reissue version from Sundazed)

Currently on repeat in my CD player:

"Interpreting the Masters Volume 1: A Tribute to Daryl Hall and John Oates" -- The Bird and the Bee, featuring Inara George (Lowell George's daughter) on vocals and Greg Kurstin on instruments & synths (just released by Blue Note)


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Peter, Pick Me! Pick Me!

Bill, Coulter is claiming this is a free speech issue even though she's charging $10,000.00 per show.

The agricultural angle in this story is that a coulter is a flat sharp edged disk about 18" in diameter that is part of a moldboard plow. The plow turns the sod and forces it up against the coulter that works like a huge pizza cutter wheel that slices the sod allowing the plow to do a clean job of turning it over.

Unfortunately David's pal, Ms Coulter, doesn't appear sharp enough to cut it.

ARI, my guess is that Levon is playing drums on 4%. Richard doesn't seem to sing lead on songs he drums on, at least live.

Since the drumming on the live version of 4% on AMH seems to be identical to the drumming on the studio version on Stage Fright I'd guess it's Levon on both.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks Bob ....$9.90 and "Neck and Neck" has now found its way on to my ipod.....the modern world does offer some advantages........and a good thing too as record stores are disappearing and the ones left seem to cater more to dvd's of terrible tv shows rather than keeping stock of anything other than big sellers ........time for a segment of What's Spinning on David P's turntable while I remain in this spending frenzy! David Gray's song was $1.29.........brought back memories of Chuck Berry explaining to Little Richard in Hail Hail Rock n Roll how getting paid 1 cent a record was one thing but when 1 cent was divided 3 ways - then it was time to fight....


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The last word

Landmark, your expert advice is needed. We're running a book on who will get the last word on Ann Coulter. (Is she any relation to musical arranger Phil Coulter?) We're not accepting any wagers on who will shout for the referee's intervention first, because that's a foregone conclusion. But how would we set odds on whether Steve or David get the last word?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: You're right about the likeness of Chet and Dubya, but look at Chet in the trailer, just before Michael McDonald. The smile, the mandolin, the nice head o' hair: doesn't that remind you of you-know-who? Yup, Levon in the '90s!

Steve: D'ja that Ann's hired Ezra to be her lawyer in her upcoming suit against the UofO? Jeez, do you think this whole thing coulda been stagemanaged by that odious little shithead, who's the one who pulled the plug on the talk in the first place? And to think his mentor David Frum was just fired for being too far left! And isn't it sad that their mutual mentor, Conrad, has just lost his house - not that he needs one right now.

Anyway, it's too bad we'll never get to see Richard Manuel and Ann Coulter singing and banging on a drum at the same time.


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Posted by:

David P

Give it a rest Steve. It is you who insists on dragging us into the gutter with endless posts relating to subjects that have nothing to do with this forum. You can keep twisting the subject of Ann Coulter around & around, but I could care less about what it is that you think is important about her visit to your country, where some would deny her the right to bang her own drum & sing at the same time.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Save you a trip.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Kevin...Chet Atkins and Mark Knopfler were wonderful together. Their album, "Neck and Neck" has been a long time favorite. Chet Atkins was truly in a league all his own. There are a number of other performances on YouTube.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Brien Sz: I had meant to say thanks for posting that David Gray video.......I really like the song...... You note that you find his albums don't quite hold together.....Perhaps a "Best Of" collection or Live release is the place to start?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

The old PBS pledgedive took a turn for the good yesterday with a Chet Atkins concert from the 80's that featured Mark Knofler, The Everly Brothers and many others. Emmylou Harris was, as always, great...............The above link is a promo for what aired last night......Take a close look at Chet and be amazed at the striking resemblance to Dubya - something I had never noticed before.........Michael Macdonald was also in the band.......have not heard anything about him in years?


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Posted by:

Steve

As usual, David, you chose to twist what I say, too bad. Too bad you can't manage to pull yourself out of the gutter and address the more important part of my post. Kind of hypocritical on your part don't you think since you're always bemoaning posts that deviate from what this forum is about.

How about walking the walk instead of just talking the talk.

Does anyone have an observation on Richard singing and playing drums in live shows.

I could spend time going through the DVD collection but thought someone here could save me the time.


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Previous Seville Spots from BEG

Hey BEG...I still have them on my "Favorites" list!

www.dailymotion.com/video/x39183_robbie-robertson-shake-this-town-sev_music

This is as much of the address I could read. It is a better spot than the latest one posted. I can't find the instructions for a tiny url....sorry.


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Posted by:

David P

No Steve, as you're wont to do, you brought Ms. Coulter HERE where she doesn't belong.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

I find David Gray's albums disappointing but he does write some great singles. The link is to his latest song which kind of came and went here but I think is a superb song.


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Posted by:

Steve

Did Richard sing when drumming in live performances?

David, to the question," Who brought Coulter here?", The answer is, Ezra Levant. You can google him, if interested, to find out why.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and there's "Go Back To Your Woods" Video with Robbie and Bruce. My fave solo CD is still Redboy.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The strongest link is Bruce Hornsby who played and wrote with Robbie, but also joined The Band at the Woodstock 94, and who had two songs recorded (but not released) by the 90s Band.


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Posted by:

dave

Subject: the seville band

Tony Levin also played alot with the Jim Weider Band for a further connection.


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Posted by:

Ophelia

Subject: New Releases by The Band

Check out cduniverse.com for two new releases by The Band. Live In Tokyo 1983 on both cd and dvd!


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: BEG and Bill.

Thanks BEG. I'm working on it. Only problem is I thought it was a dead issue and changed my plans. Hmm. What would be more fun? Edmonton or TO. Where the hell was your old stomping grounds. Cabbagetown? Would love to talk. My e-mail is lightningpress@telus.net Bill. Have you ever heard Jay/Eugene sing Strawberries? Lots of fun.


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Posted by:

Dave H

The "other" bass-playing William Lee--AKA Bill Lee--who played on Dylan's Bringing It All Back Home, among many other albums over the years, also happens to be the father of film director Spike Lee.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, thanks for naming that woman on the 60's rock and roll show on PBS. I was switching back and forth between that and the Canadiens /Sabres games. I had no idea who she was.


Entered at Thu Mar 25 22:34:05 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400435.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.25.243)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Oooops! And "The Weight" with Robbie and gang at Sevilla '92. Now I remember....I had posted these songs from another place and they're now no longer available. Remember Deeeee? You were one of the first to give a shout out to Bo Dollis? Anyway......It's always great to see and hear Robbie anyway we can get him...... :-D


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: I found out just today that while Letterman's Will Lee is the son of a musical William Lee, he is NOT the son of famous bassist Bill Lee with whom Robbie also shared a stage - many many years ago at the Guthrie tribute where our guys backed Dylan.


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Posted by:

David P

Mark Pender and Richie "La Bamba" Rosenberg (from the Seville performance) were most recently members of the Max Weinberg 7 / Conan O'Brien Tonight Show Orchestra. Fellow members also include(d?) Jerry & Jimmy Vivino. So there's a link with the Levon Helm Band. Jimmy Vivino is also a member of the Fab Faux (Beatles tribute band) along with Will Lee, the longtime member of Paul Shaffer's band seen in the Robbie clip from the Letterman show.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sevilla 1992

Note how Bruce Hornsby signals the band. Note that while Manu Katche is very different to Levon, he's also a first rate drummer. Having got hours of The Band on tape, I'd venture that this band were every bit as good as the 90s Band.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Shake This Town. Sevilla version

Because I recorded it back in the day straight off the BBC broadcast, I can confidently list the musicians on the Sevilla version: Robbie Robertson - guitar, lead vocal / Bruce Hornsby - electric piano, backing vocal / Bill Dillon - guitar / Tony Levin - bass / Manu Katche - drums / Ivan Neville - organ /Monk Bordeaux, Bo Dollis - vocal, percussion / The Miami Horns - horns (Ed Manion, Mark Pender, Richie Rosenberg) Produced by Phil Ramone.

No brilliance was involved, just reading the on-screen credits.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: No - I have been spending more time out of the city than in it and this schedule will continue through September.....in the middle of a really crazy period but should have time to start getting out and seeing some shows, etc in the Fall - by the way - Jesse Winchester is at Hugh's Room on April 10.....sometimes it is better to not think about the things we miss.....

Some thoughts:

The RR performance is notable for a few things.......it reminds us as to how good that 2nd album was and marks the only public display of dancing by the usually stationary guitarist................also - no Band fan can watch/listen without imagining Rick or Richard doing the vocals.......

The Elvis Costello show with Jesse Winchester, Sheryl Crow, Neko Case and Ron Sexsmith was on this week and it was the best hour of television I have seen in a while........a few observations.......... Elvis has gone to the Bob Dylan/cowboy/Salvador Dali look but I really have to hand it to the guy for using this show to expose some favourites of his...........Jesse Winchester was stunningly good doing Sham a Ling-Dong-Ding and Tennessee Waltz.......The great Ron Sexsmith is always good but would have taken the show to outer space had he not wasted time doing an Elvis Costello song as well as a limp version of Ring Them Bells ( Rare that anyone does a better than original version of post 1988 Bob Dylan ).

PBS is in Pledge Drive season which usually means good news for music fans............though the other night there was something called "Classic 60's" and it was a parade of band after band doing their hits - not from then but in a recent concert......the result was 60-70 year old men with permed curly hair wearing cut-off shirts doing "Inagodadavida" and other not so classic tunes..........to make the horror show complete........the whole shebang was hosted by Michelle Phillips who suddenly looks old! When did this happen?

Speaking of PBS..........their ability to find male hosts for these pledge drives that always seem to have bad haircuts and chequered sweaters is really something.


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Posted by:

David P

Thanks Kevin. I had to watch the video a few more times to get a better look. It seems that Bill Dillon has played on all of Robbie's albums. Wonder if he'll be on the next one? Yet another question to go unanswered (:-)


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and Robbie's "Go Back To Your Woods" and "What About Now" from Expo '92 Sevilla.


Entered at Thu Mar 25 21:23:59 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400435.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.25.243)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Good one Pat B! Everytime I saw that link I thought it was this one that was posted awhile ago.....Robbie again on "Shake This Town" but at Seville Expo '92.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno
Web: My link

Kevin J: Yes, a great player. Another of the records I wish I still had was a early '80s 12-inch EP by the Millionaires - Daniel Lanois, Bill Dillon, Ed Roth and another guy. Speaking of Roth, have you been out to see Bent Roots at Gabby's near Yonge&Eg yet? (Every second Sunday evening.)


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Posted by:

Kevin J

It is Bill Dillon on guitar......good player...too bad someone once told him he looked like John lennon and he worked hard to look like that from that point forward!


Entered at Thu Mar 25 19:48:40 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Mystery Guitarist

On second thought, maybe that's Bill Dillon playing a Guild Starfire, which looks similar to the Gibson 335. Hard to tell in the video.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Shake This Town

It's very hard to see the faces on the video. Do you mean Daniel Lanois with what appears to be a 335 (but might not be)? Could be. He usually has a less conventional instrument though. The lead off stage is great stagecraft.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Shake This Town

I reckon it's Monk Bordeaux and Bo Dollis on backing vocals. The backing vocals and horn section are additions to the house band.


Entered at Thu Mar 25 16:37:17 CET 2010 from (165.112.214.196)

Posted by:

Jan F.

Pat, Nice post -- great video --- Thanks!

J.F.


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Posted by:

David P

Paul Schaffer's band on the late night Letterman show at the time was known as The World's Most Dangerous Band. It featured Will Lee on bass, Anton Fig on drums and Sid McGinnis on guitar. Except for Tom "Bones" Malone on trombone, I'm not sure of the other musicians in the video with Robbie. Is that Daniel Lanois behind Robbie on guitar?


Entered at Thu Mar 25 14:55:57 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

NB: Not sure why, but a post I posted yesterday in response to your thanks-for-Harrison post (glad you like him; my favourite is his 'comeback' "Voice + Story" CD. Eugene Smith - now of Duncan - takes a somewhat similar approach, though without the blues. The link above is to what I rate his best song - and its A-side too if you wait patiently for the guy to turn the record over. (Peter V: Harrison and Eugene sang together for a while in the Soul Children before they became Lucifer, Harrison having joined the group with his cousin Bobby Washington when Bobby was hired to replace the departing bass phenom Prakash John; Bobby's on bass on the Lucifer record.)

Pat B: Who's who in the Robbie video, aside from Paul Shaffer? I liked watching the backup singers, who remind me of a great Drebbin-Presley dancing scene in "Top Gun". Also, like Steve, I'm wondering what that Civil War guy did wrong. I know many visiting Canadians have been threatened with harm for asking for vinegar with their fries, but Pizza Hut doesn't sell fries, do they?

dlew: I like that little Porky Pig snout you stuck at the end of your claypygean post. Reminds me of Manuel's 'oink oink' when Basil asks him to clear the dead pigeons from the water tank.


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Posted by:

Deb

Nice video, Pat. Thanks


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Posted by:

Peter V

According to that Debra Medina lady, the word Texas must be prefaced at all times by "The Great State of ". The discussion on TV involved the right of secession rather than to have health care. As you'll know, Texas is the only state that joined the union by treaty, which gave it the explicit right to secede (so they were not "rebels" in the Civil War.)


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Hats Off To The Hawk

Peter, Robbie, learned from the master when it comes to assembling superb bands.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Once A Minority Always A Minority

Pat, didn't any of Cleburne's aides warn him about risking the double peperoni? Poor bastard, what a way to go.

Pat, are you preparing yourself for the relearning process once The Texas Board Of Education rewrites history? Texas will certainly come out a winner in The Civil War. The question is how will they manage it. I'm guessing "Intelligent Design", will be invoked.

The guy I heard from TTBOE explaining why it was necessary to "reestablish the facts of American history", was having problems accepting one indisputable fact himself.

When the woman interviewing him explained that Latinos were now a majority in the Texas school system he wouldn't stop referring to them as the minority student population.

I'm assuming after listening to this guy that Texas will regain it's position as the largest state in the union. God never meant for Texas to be second in any way. It's right there in The Intelligent Design playbook.

The fact they were able to remove the words democrat and democratic from the entire history program is a remarkable feat and in its self makes the whole process worthwhile.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Shake This Town

Thanks Pat a great video. Robbie knows how to assemble a superb band, It's a shame those Storyville songs never got toured, as the bits that have been broadcast Agrigento Festival, Letterman, Guitar Legends at Seville really make me wish I'd seen them.


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Posted by:

NB (Not Bashing)

Being completlely unaware of the individual's transgender status before posting my post precludes my having "bashed" them for it. For all I care people can change their sex more frequently than I change my underwear (which reminds me !). Likewise, my status as Canada's first surviving human brain donor completely precludes omniscience on my part. Mind you, not that I don't appreciate the compliment. NB


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Gene, I meant to mention that the place of Cleburne's death at the battle of Franklin--which used to be a Pizza Hut--is now a memorial park, thanks to the dedicated preservationists at Franklin's Charge


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Bashing

Now the allmighty know-it-all from the North feels the need to bash transgender people. Interesting.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

This is something to take the mind off guys like Coulter.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: A correction to the correction to the correction

Isn't it callipygean? And I use it in business meetings: 'Pay me less and expect more work? What a perfectly callipygean idea!'

:)


Entered at Wed Mar 24 23:51:23 CET 2010 from vance014.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.53)

Posted by:

Northern Boy

I don't do politics well Steve, and I don't really do them here at all - partly in deference to our host and partly because they bore the living excrement right out of me. So I guess I missed your drift and was thereby incorrect in correcting you. The only word though that I ever added to the lexicon around here that I can recall was "callipigeon"- having well-shaped buttocks. Ass in "Sandra Bullock has nice buttocks, so is very callipigeon".

I suppose though that in a parallel universe there could even exist a "Sandra Buttock who has really nice bullocks." While I'm positive about the former statement I am unsure about the latter, but the latter is nonetheless still clearly more worthy of our collective cogitations than discussing this Deutsch-Bag Nazi Coulter broad ! (so I'm for everyone giving the topic all the attention it deserves ie. none). NB


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, were you an English teacher prior to the invention of punctuation?

Give it a goddamned rest.


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Posted by:

Steve

I was wondering how long it would take you to raise the sanctity of the GB. You're pretty funny Dave in a particularly, predictably way. Hey NB, dickinfence or possibly assonfence?

I guess another point about that old sod buster, Coulter, is that whatever person or group of people who felt the need to bring in a racist right wing flamer were lucky enough to have a wide selection to chose from just across the border. No need to go through the trouble of trying to sneak in a Neo Nazi from somewhere else. Why is that do you think, David?

Feel free to work with that last one, NB.


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Posted by:

RobbieJamesPosey

Location: Fresno and san francisco
Web: My link

Subject: friendswithyouandrickdanko in Fresno at Japanese restaurant I watched the last waltz with you guys when I was 16 or 17 remember me call me at 559 442 1421 at night i want to talk to you Robbie

I remember jamming with you and Rick Danko Iam still playing all these years and now really appreciate your music more than all the bands you guys asked me about but Iwas young and dumb and didnt know I do now and play your music very often your friend Robbie posey p.s also Mohawk and Jewish


Entered at Wed Mar 24 21:21:48 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279545952.dsl.bell.ca (76.68.82.96)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Awhile ago I posted the complete download of all the songs Dylan and The Band performed at the Isle Of Wight and some of the performances from Youtube. Recently I found "TW". Did I miss this one before? Anyway, I just can't get enough of Dylan with The Band no matter what the quality of their performances.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 21:17:49 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279545952.dsl.bell.ca (76.68.82.96)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson's Main Guitar at TLW


Entered at Wed Mar 24 21:12:45 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279545952.dsl.bell.ca (76.68.82.96)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

103.9 The Pride of Toronto Radio.....Wigmore's Diary with Robbie Robertson. (Interview)

Try Masssy Hall for tickets Bonk. You used to live in my hood, right? If so....I'm sure we'd have a lot of stories to share. ;-D


Entered at Wed Mar 24 21:11:42 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Mao of Steve

Let's see if I've got it straight. Ms. Coulter's comments are so objectionable that they bear repeating is this Guestbook, of all places, yet she shouldn't be allowed to utter them in a public forum in Canada.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Just finished reading Bruce Chadwick's "Lincoln for President". It's about the election of 1860. It is an interesting and easy read. Not nearly as good as "Team of Rivals". Chadwick tends to fawn over Lincoln a bit too much for my liking in a history book. He often talks how much Lincoln despised slavery, hated it with every bone in his being yet glosses over the fact(in parts) that he was more than willing to accept it where it already was. He also paints Lincoln with a brush that makes him out to be a man who never made an error in judgement and was possibly the greatest political mastermind ever going into that election. At times I thought I heard glorious harmonies coming out of the pages everytime he mentioned Lincoln. He also makes note of how deeply religious he was which in the context of the times he was not - Lincoln didn't really embrace what "religion and God" was about until during the Civil War but likes to paint it up for the preceding years. It is interesting in reading about how the new Republican party had to coax the Wide Awakes, the Know Nothings and the American Party into backing him while fending off the fractioned Democratic party who were really hoping to garner enough electoral votes to throw the election in the House where they were certain a Democrat would then be chosen for President. Interesting but not great or written so that it came off compelling but I reccomend it if you are looking for another angle on the political career of Lincoln - two stars out of four.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 20:29:59 CET 2010 from 21cust51.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.51)

Posted by:

Steve

Nothing more than satire, NB. Please read again. I can explain further if necessary.

That was the whole point David. I purposely misread your post as you sometimes do with mine. Sucks ,eh, when someone does that. Keep it in mind next time when you feel like making me out to be a Nazi sympathizer.

NB, I was trying to sort out the two words you've added to my vocabulary in the years you've been here; assonfence and dickinfence. I've completely forgotten the meanings of each though I think one had something to do with the hard sounding vowels in the repetition of cuss words when you find yourself in that situation. I'm guessing that's an example of dickinfence.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 20:04:48 CET 2010 from vance007.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.186.7)

Posted by:

NB

Sorry Northern Boy, but those two previous questions should have had ?'s on the end. This is hard work -Bumbles, please come back ! NB


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Posted by:

NB

Shoudn't that have read "where some poeple even consider them to be SOMETHING more that satire. And isn't "like-minded" hyphenated. Sorry Steve, just filling in the void left by Bumbles.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 19:47:00 CET 2010 from vance007.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.186.7)

Posted by:

NB

Subject: Harrison Kennedy

Thanks for that link Bill. I like the way he serves up his blues, so ending my workday yesterday with 20 or so minutes of that was really nice. Not sure about describing Hamilton as a mini-Chicago though (da Bears = da Ticats sure, but who den would be da Hamiltonian Ditka ?) NB.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 19:39:53 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Steve: You're the one peddling misunderstanding. Sharpen your reading skills before you accuse others of the same. Who was it who posted insulting comments here recently and claimed that they made satirically or attributed them to a family member?


Entered at Wed Mar 24 19:18:57 CET 2010 from 21cust28.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.28)

Posted by:

Steve

David, do you find back pedaling more difficult than purposely misunderstanding posts to display over-hyped revulsion?

The most comforting thing about Coulter's visit here is that she'll soon be going home where it appears she has more like minded support for her disgusting beliefs, where some people even consider them to be nothing more than satire.

Todd, I listened to 4% from AMH and Robbie is playing guitar and someone else is playing piano. Since it's a live version with a blowin first take I'm assuming that it wasn't over dubbed. I'm going to give the released version a couple of spins later to compare.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 18:21:00 CET 2010 from pool-74-108-31-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Ann Coulter

Ann Coulter is an excellent example of how you can wrap garbage up in pretty paper, but it still is just stinking garbage.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 18:18:00 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Hmm. South Park The Movie looks as if it's about to come true.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 18:14:15 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Steve: You seemed to have missed my point. Since your Canadian neighbors were kind enough to let her into the country to speak, y'all are welcome to keep her. It's evident that she has some kindred spirits up there, or how else can you explain her presence under a professional guise and not just a vacationing tourist. Like I said before, the joke's on you, not us.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 17:35:25 CET 2010 from 21cust5.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.5)

Posted by:

Steve

David, it's difficult to believe that such an overtly sensitive guy such as your self would support Ms( I think) Coulter and her racist rants and describe them as satire. But I guess if you buy and read her books that would make sense. Do you have the whole Coulter collection?

Looks like I'm not the only one revealing what's in the closet this week, eh David.

I think the obvious observation to make here is that Canadians won't accept hate speech in a public forum as acceptable. Coulter seemed shocked by this, she obviously doesn't step outside her cozy nest of shite often.

Since you seem to follow her closely, do you know if this is her first international speaking tour?

I'm guessing by her surprised reaction to her reception in Ontario this might be her first time.

As far as who invited her maybe it was the three disappointed rednecks outside the University of Ottawa chanting, Coulter, Coulter.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 17:16:34 CET 2010 from 69.177.215.224.ded.snet.net (69.177.215.224)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Ain't Nothin' But a Thing

JQ, Ive seen enough of Limbaugh and Olberman to get a feel for their respective agendas. Whether theyre accurate or factual on any particular issue is kind of beside the point. They and others of their ilk are so heavily partisan that you know what their point of view will be before they even open their mouths. From a branding perspective theyre both behaving consistently and predictably. But I consider them, and others like them, to be more in the entertainment business rather than in the news business. On that note, it sounds like Ann Coulter got the attention that she was looking for.

For news, I feel that someone like Campbell Brown on CNN or even Anderson Cooper does a better job at providing information with some perspective without the heavy influence of partisanship.

Westcoaster, thanks for the support, but Im not worried about Steve. I think hes just jealous now that we have a better health care system than he does. Im already trying to figure out how Im going to spend all the extra money that I get back. Its burning a hole in my pocket. But Id better wait until our President signs it into law on Friday after the public gets the promised 5 days to review it first ;-)

As Steve says, AMH lists the classic band line-up with Levon as the drummer on 4%, but that was an alternate version and may be slightly different from the line-up on the original release on Cahoots. On Hideki Watanabe's page "Who Plays What Instruments on Band albums" (linked above), the line-up is listed as below and shows both Richard AND Levon on drums. Assuming thats correct, that could explain the combination of styles that Dave H mentioned. Also, having Robbie on piano fits with the story of Robbie working out the song with Van Morrison on piano earlier in the day that they recorded it.

4% Pantomime
Richard Manuel: 1st Lead Vocal & Drums
Van Morrison: 2nd Lead Vocal
Levon Helm: Drums
Rick Danko: Bass
Robbie Robertson: Electric Guitar & Piano
Garth Hudson: Lowrey Organ


Entered at Wed Mar 24 16:36:31 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Loony for Loonies

Gee Steve, next you'll be blaming nefarious Americans for tricking poor, unsuspecting Canadians into inviting Ms. Coulter north of the border. And I thought you all appreciated satire up there. One has to wonder if she's being paid in loonies for her speaking engagements. Paraphrasing one of Ms. Coulter's book titles -- "If Canadians Had Any Brains, Then Why Did They Invite Her?" Now the joke's on you.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 14:50:00 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bonk: Woulda been nice to meet another former Pickeringer, and a Band fan at that. However, if you can't be in Toronto, Edmonton's said to be lovely in the springtime. By the way, I spotted your mention of the great Bill Henderson playing at the benefit on the island. I was singing his praises the other day to a friend in Beijing whose band (the Bastards) just released an album that was produced and engineered by a veteran of Vancouver's Mushroom Studio, where Henderson did tons of sessions. I suggested that he go to the Pacemaker site and buy the Chilliwack album with "Lonesome Mary" - a wondrous showcase of Henderson's talents.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 11:19:01 CET 2010 from 21cust178.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.178)

Posted by:

Steve

After making racist comments at U Of Western Ontario on Monday, Ann Coulter, was prevented by protesters from doing her hate speech at The U of Ottawa last night.

On Monday she had said all terrorists are Muslim and that all Muslims should be bared from traveling by plane. She told a Muslim woman at the meeting she should travel by flying carpet and if she doesn't have one to get a camel.

She was warned after her Monday speech that her comments are considered hate speech aimed at an identifiable group and that she could face criminal charges.

After being turned away from The U of Ottawa last night she called the University a "bush league" institution if it didn't want her to speak there.

She's now off to the University of Calgary.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 10:55:33 CET 2010 from 21cust177.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.177)

Posted by:

Steve

AMH, lists Levon as the drummer on 4%.


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Posted by:

Dave H

I'll vote for it being Levon on drums on "4% Pantomime." Less syncopation than usual for him but the heavy reliance on the ride cymbal is fully in character.


Entered at Wed Mar 24 03:42:55 CET 2010 from d75-155-189-102.bchsia.telus.net (75.155.189.102)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: BEG

Just spent 30 minutes on line with ticketmaster trying to get 2 tickets for Massey Hall. No go. I wonder if it's because I'm so far away? I try to get back to T.O. every couple of years but I guess I'll have to try Edmonton. Too bad, would have liked to hook up with you and Bill. Cheers!


Entered at Wed Mar 24 00:38:20 CET 2010 from 216-165-17-79.dynapool.nyu.edu (216.165.17.79)

Posted by:

Ari

Web: My link

Levon Helm on Conan in 1993. Also, who plays drums 4% Pantomime, it sounds like Richard, but what is Levon playing? I also hear piano and Garth is on the Lowrey.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Many thanks Bill M! If my memory serves me well.....Red said that he saw Jackie Shane back in the day. I sent him a "world" music CD in exchange.

Ya know it kind of pisses me off that most people think it was the late great Michael Jackson who invented the Moonwalk. I know when I first saw him perform it on the award show I had no idea that it was The Hawk's all along. Now....Did he copy someone else?

Ronnie Hawkins doing the Moonwalk. (few very brief clips)

Sooooo.....Will you be at Massey Hall or not? Am I the only one to represent?! ;-D


Entered at Tue Mar 23 22:18:21 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400231.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.25.39)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

It appears Levon Helm will be back on Canada's Bravo channel next month and in May for those of you who missed it the first time. It is very worth checking out.

4/8/2010 8:00:00 PM Innovators In Music EP: 02 Levon Helm 2009 This documentary series profiles six dynamic musicians from a variety of genres, backgrounds and disciplines and explores how the creative impulse extends beyond music making and into other realms of artistic pursuit. This episode features legendary singer and drummer from The Band, Levon Helm. Since surviving cancer of the vocal chords, he has been hosting The Midnight Ramble Sessions, an evening of music at a home studio in Woodstock, New York.

4/9/2010 7:00:00 AM


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Dylan Massey Hall Nov 15, 1965

Posted by BlueBayou on March 1, 2010

"The second set, he came on with the Band, which included presumably Robbie Robertson, Richard Manual, Garth Hudson and Rick Danko. I dont know if Levon, who left for a while during the tour, was with him by then. To the best of my recollection, Dylan didnt introduce them, not that I would have recognized or remembered any names if he had. Now the catcalls started, but they were isolated and infrequent. Much of the audience was college student aged, the folk purists who comprised Dylans pre-electric audience. But there was also represented there, perhaps even a majority, those like Eric and me, for whom the electric Dylan was the genuine article, who loved the whole show and applauded everything enthusiastically. He was not booed off the stage. Not even close. Eric and I were transported."


Entered at Tue Mar 23 22:03:04 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Jackie Shane

BEG: If you're in touch with him, you can tell Bumbles that I have that CD too. You heard the very good radio documentary a couple of weeks ago? See link if not.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 21:45:00 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400231.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.25.39)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Canadiana on my Itunes:

Oh What A Feeling...Crowbar
Dubmatique from Montreal
Slippin' and A Slidin'...The Band (4/5)
When You Come Down...Holly McNarland
Jackie Shane (Bumbles has the same CD. I have it also thanks to Red from this site.)
A Case Of You...k.d. Lang via Joni Mitchell ("I drew a map of Canada with your face sketched on it twice.")
He Don't Love You (And He'll Break Your Heart)...Levon and The Hawks


Entered at Tue Mar 23 21:42:21 CET 2010 from 21cust33.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.33)

Posted by:

Steve

Bill, Wavin Flag, K'naan's most popular song by far, is making him the Canadian artist with the farthest flung world tour ever as he travels with FIFA's golden trophy. He performed the song in 11 countries in Africa alone. Last week he was in Mexico, I think he's doing Central and South America at the moment. He's got to be flaggin by now.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 20:01:15 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Peter V: Glad to be of service, and now you've given me something else to look for too - that Invictus box. Even if it missed out on Eugene's Hawkness, it'd be nice to read something anything about them. Eugene called himself Jay in the '60s, and you'll find mentions of him in the main Band books. Not only did he front the greatest post-Levon lineups (Richard Bell, Sandy Konikoff, Bob Boucher, Bobby Starr ...) in the mid '60s, but earlier on he - like David Clayton Thomas, Robbie Lane, John Finley and others - was regularly called up by Hawkins and our guys to sing a song ot two. While he had and has one of the great R&B voices around, by the end of the '60s he'd decided to recreate his vocal style around more informal Bandish vocals, relying to a great degree on experimentations in mouth-movement. I caught him many times around town in the late '70s and very early '80s and consider myself most fortunate to have seen him get so inspired by the warmth of the reception one night that he stood up from the stool he always sat on, put down the tenor guitar he always played, and moved into a killer version of "Shake", complete with his old killer Otis moves from the '60s.

Landmark: I'd meant to thank you for the Canuckistani list. Mine for the week would be topped by Handsome Ned's "Put The Blame On Me", Matt Anderson's awesome version of "Ain't No Sunshine" that got played on The Vinyl Cafe, the massed version of "Just Like A Wavin' Flag", Ron Sexsmith's "Idiot Boy" and no doubt others that aren't springing to mind.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 20:00:22 CET 2010 from mobile-166-129-105-122.mycingular.net (166.129.105.122)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Limbaugh vs Olberman, JC & Peter Gabriel

Todd - I think if you took an honest & objective look at Limbaugh & Olberman you would find that Olberman is on-the-mark far more frequently & less histrionically than Rush. KO does use sound effects & sensational stories at times but nothing like RL.

I'm really enjoying the new Johnny Cash; although it's posthumous it's not a mere repacking thing at all. I think the song selection reflects the POV of someone between death & ascension. Some tracks are sad but never depressing.

The new one from Peter Gabriel is interesting to me too. I think it's all covers and its vibe is quite mellow & etherial. It reminds me of a Kate Bush record that way. Plus he covers Bon Iver's "Flume", which is a great choice & well-struck.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 19:33:35 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Damn, Bill. Something else to look out for! The Invictus Soul Box Set has Time Gonna Change Everything by Lucifer (1971). It has the trademark funky Shafty guitar and congas of early 70s stuff and terrific saxophone work. Eugene Smith wrote it, but I had no idea he was a former Hawk. You already have the Hawks badge, but I think the Bumbles Soul Medal is deserved too. The set's sleeve notes are by Peter Doggett, who is a major Band fan, but he doesn't mention that.

My favourite track is the Invictus cliche of all cliches, Band of Gold. Ruth Copeland's very long Gimmee Shelter is playing as I type.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 19:10:46 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Landmark: Get thee to Keeneland, where hope springs eternal. That's what Easter's all about, no?

Westcoaster: Thanks to the pointer to "You Don't Know Me". Reminded me yet again how interesting it is to watch Richard create sounds by moving his mouth parts in ways that aren't the norm. Seems to use teeth where most of us would likely use lips.

Peter V: I have a number of Invictus albums - Chairmen of the Board, Lucifer and Harrison Kennedy. Kennedy, of Hamilton, Ontario, was also in the Chairmen, and sang their hit "Chairman Of The Board"; I saw him in a club here a couple of weeks ago, a benefit to fund him and another guy's travel to Memphis for some international bluesfest. Lucifer, nee the Stone Soul Children, was headed by former Hawk Eugene Smith; that album is a totallly unrecognised gem, and I think it's the only thing on the whole damned label that isn't out on CD - perhaps because the English soul buffs who've released the rest of the stuff deem it unsuitable because it's Bandish rather than Northern soulful. So Bandish that our late fellow-poster Paul G was actively lobbying Levon to cover one the great tunes, "Old Mother Nature".


Entered at Tue Mar 23 18:50:14 CET 2010 from vance013.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.58)

Posted by:

NB

Location: beyond Hope (B.C.)

Subject: Great Offend(0

You're welcome.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 18:23:39 CET 2010 from 21cust250.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.250)

Posted by:

Steve

Norm, I'm guessing you've misplaced your reading glasses again.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I'll be Gone........

Well I gots to get on the ferry to Comox, drive up to Port Hardy, take my tug out of the water in the morning, power wash, paint the bottom, install new zincs, and a bit of other maintainance....so y'all keep sane and safe.

Steve, I guess it's fun for you to keep on babbling, and insult people as you just have Todd. I suppose you may see it as good natured and your brand of humour. Yesterday you must have spent most the day with your foot in your mouth. But it's old.....so......shut the fuck up for a while! Do something constructive........go pick some stones, yer acting like a real dick head, to aggressively try and justify these stupid racist comments. If I had a member of my family who made such ignorant comments, the last thing I would do is publisize it on an open forum, whether I agreed or not.

So long guys......I've got swingin' doors...a jukebox....and a bar room........Hey David! do you recall a song from Doug Stone????? Whad you do with those swingin' doors????...where's the sawdust on the floor....why's everybody wearin' suits and ties.....from where I stand I can't believe my eyes......Lars! get out there and cut some gawd damn firewood.....Brien! take some pictures of him so I can believe it!


Entered at Tue Mar 23 15:53:14 CET 2010 from 21cust212.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.212)

Posted by:

Steve

Todd, I didn't really picture you calling in to Limbaugh's snake pit. Don't know anything about Ken O., I don't listen to commercial radio north or south of the border and talk radio is the bottom of the barrel from what I remember of it from long ago.

CARMEN, good to see you've come to your senses and moved left, socially.

While I support your dire warning to the wealthy citizens and Corporations in your country I think you'll have to go a little deeper to convince them of the dangerous path they are on.

After a couple of hundred years of getting EVERYTHING they want from THEIR gov't they may need reminding, through explicit examples, of what they might lose unless they stop demanding so much. They've had such a long successful run they may not be aware of the consequences of such depraved behaviour. They probably feel this is the way things should work. The universe is in perfect balance.

Give it some thought. If you're incapable of coming up with anything of your own just post another mindless catchphrase like yesterday.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 15:04:12 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Amps

I generally favor small tube amps with my Strat & Tele. My arsenal includes a Fender Blues Junior, Crate Palomino V32 and a Vox Valvetronix VT-30 modeling amp. I often vary which one I use and the choice is sometimes dependent on the size of the room where I'm playing. For outdoor gigs I've often used two amps linked in tandem through a switching box. Most of the time I mic the amp through the p.a. system with an old reliable Shure-57. For just fooling around or practicing at home I have a nice little Fender Champion 600 reissue.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Amps - Car 54 - Where are you???????

Todd! In 1966 I had a Roland amp this guy at a music store I bought all my stuff from in Vancouver talked me into buying it. What I remember.....it was heavier than hell. It had about 6 colour slider switches that changed the sound, as well as eq. But it sure had balls!

Now here is the weirdest thing. One night I was playing in a little supper club in Richmond, a sea board town just out of Vancouver. A piano player and I. Very close to Vancouver International airport. Suddenly when we stopped playing for a moment, there is voices coming from my amp......What the F_ _K! Well it was the pilot in a plane talking to the control tower. It happened other times, cops, taxis.

One day while at the music store, I asked this guy, how could this happen? He gave me this song & dance that the transistors in those amps were very powerful, the same as in the space ships! he says....well I dunno, but it happened. Not consistently, but a few times. I think that was about the beginning of transistor amps.

Now a Peavey, for my money, gives a much cleaner acoustic sound for my Ovation than any others I've tried. The Ovation always sounds more acoustic thru the PA system....but..those guys don't want me to use it as at this show, there is about 6 vocal mikes thru there. I have always played my Ovation thru my sound system, but this new Peavey is pretty damn nice awright.......AND.....the name Peavey on the front lights up!!!.......WOW!


Entered at Tue Mar 23 14:14:38 CET 2010 from 69.177.215.224.ded.snet.net (69.177.215.224)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Steve, maybe you missed my point. I think the political name-calling and extremism is wrong from ALL sides of the court and detracts from the process. I wasnt endorsing it any way. People like Rush Limbaugh on the right and people like Keith Olberman on the left are a big part of whats wrong with politics today, and I feel they exert too much influence over the process. Many folks out there possibly dont have the independence of thought for example, that independent cattle farmers and independent photographers do. They need other people to tell them what and how to think & react. My opinions here are strictly my own. So the answer to your question is no, and Ive never called into any sort of talk radio show of any kind. Do you actually think that the problem with politics is only from one side or the other? Or are both sides to blame?

The thing about the health care bill that I cant shake is the way that it was positioned as taking the insurance industry to task. That may or may not happen, but I havent met a person yet in the insurance industry that seems the least bit worried. And that worries me. I bet theyll be making as much money as ever. It leads me to believe that it was just some sort of shell game to distract the masses. David and Goliath on steroids. Lets just hope that the people who need the care actually get it.

After much reflection (actually sleep) I decided that my post from last night was a waste of time and that some people actually like the sideshow that goes along with politics. Its not my place to interrupt the fun. As you were.

Maybe Norms idea of talking about amps is a better choice. I havent played through a lot of amps, but a friend of mine had a Peavey that I used about 20 years ago. It seemed to do the job pretty well. My own amp is a Roland Cube 60. Someone once told me that it was a keyboard amp, and ever since then Ive had the feeling that the Roland is just not the most rockin choice for electric guitar. Any guitar players out there have any opinions about the Roland? One time I had the opportunity to play through a Marshall stack. That was a lot of fun, but Id hate to have to lug the thing around. Ive always wanted a Fender twin reverb, but could never justify it.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Hey Landy!

Long time no see! Please do the horse tips! Even though I'm not a betting man, I always found it interesting!


Entered at Tue Mar 23 12:47:49 CET 2010 from mtrlpq02-1176248394.sdsl.bell.ca (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I guess it's time for a Canuckistani Top 5. I'll never understand why anyone discusses politics here, but I guess I am in the minority here. So with this in mind and bear with me as I have been too busy to really listen to music these days: 1)When I Die - Motherlode 2)Julianna - 5 Man Electrical Band 3)Music At work - The Tragically Hip 4)Get Down To - Mainline 5)(Tie)Just like Tom Thumb's Blues - Gordon Lightfoot 5)(Tie)When You Dance - Neil Young 5)(Tie) The Rumour - The Band I know that Lightfoot's is a cover but I always liked it. Now stop with the politics or I'll start posting my horse racing picks again. By the way, they have been out-performing my stock portfolio. Abby if you are lurking, I am considering a run to Keeneland for Easter. Jersey Girl, I still have your back.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 11:33:00 CET 2010 from 21cust166.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.166)

Posted by:

Steve

Not unless you see a post from "Steve's Mom," Lars. But I'm sure if she did she'd be fine with it and I will pass along your concerns to her. Rest easy.

As I'm reading Todd's post about "political extremism" I heard an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's radio program . The quote; Democrats are bastards that have to be eliminated from gov't.

Todd, call in and run your post by him.

Isn't,Rush, considered the de facto leader of The Republican Party at the moment.

Todd, have you really been convinced that some Democrats are Marxists? I think you're falling under the spell of extremists nut cases like Limbaugh. Have the death panels been formed yet?


Entered at Tue Mar 23 09:06:53 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Invictus / Hot wax

As a postscript, the sadly-missed Bumbles is one of the few posters who could have picked up on Holland-Dozier-Holland and had some interesting and informative musical comments on that record label. Soul fans unite! (or rather !!!)

Todd, the e.e. cummings quote is apposite in both our countries. Three ex-cabinet ministers just walked straight into a media "cash for influence" set up and got booted out of the Labour Party yesterday. As cummings said :

A politician

is an arse

upon which

everyone has sat

except a man.

I probably got the line breaks wrong because I was too lazy to look it up.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 08:54:20 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: It's all black and white

I rarely use the Ned Flanders word uplifting but Ill apply it to the Clint Eastwood directed, Morgan Freeman produced film Invictus. I saw it last night somewhat reluctantly fearing a worthy biopic that lacked tension because you knew the ending and that Nelson Mandela wasnt going to get assassinated or die of a heart attack while jogging etc. Completely wrong. Its a great movie and Morgan Freeman just becomes Mandela. Matt Damon is excellent, even if he doesnt look much like a rugby player. I cant stand rugby as a game which enhanced te last twenty minutes because I didnt know the result of the crucial match. But its genuinely uplifting and an antidote to all these tales of racism. My only disappointment was to discover that it was named after the 19th century poem Invictus rather than the Holland-Dozier-Holland soul record label of the 1970s (OK, I know, that was named after the same poem).

On the downside, the late night news interviewed one Debra Medina from Texas, or as she always called it The Great State Of Texas. Most of us would have a clue that being interviewed by BBC Late Night News would mean it was evening in the UK, but she looked totally puzzled at Good evening and corrected her reply to Good AFTERNOON (!!!) When its afternoon in Houston, its afternoon in the world. Her theme seemed to be that the fundamental Rights of Man were Life, Liberty and the Defence of Property. Like the interviewer, my memory is that its Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. But the Defence of Property is apparently the right to hold a small arsenal of assault weapons. After fifteen minutes of telling us what The People of the Great State of Texas think and deeply believe, she failed to see the interviewers next question: In that case, how come only 18% of those who voted, voted for you?


Entered at Tue Mar 23 06:21:27 CET 2010 from rrcs-24-97-30-26.nys.biz.rr.com (24.97.30.26)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Location: yemensvelte

Best laugh I've had in days-thank you NB for Bumbles Design and the great set up. I'm still laughing.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 04:44:49 CET 2010 from 69.177.215.224.ded.snet.net (69.177.215.224)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Political Extremism

This discussion about racism in politics illustrates the dangers of political extremism. While its true that there are extremists on both ends of the political spectrum, they are not representative of the majority of normal rational people. It grabs a lot of attention in the news clips, and even here in the GB, but ultimately it serves as a distraction that stifles actual reasoned discussion about policy and issues. It may be acceptable in some circles to view all Republicans as racist and all Democrats as Marxists, but my feeling is that anyone who buys into that type of ideology, on either side of the aisle, is not being intellectually honest with themselves or with each other. Its lazy. All it does it hijack the conversation away from any hope of being substantive.

I know that racism still exists in our world. But it cant be the fallback excuse or reason expressed any time someone does or doesnt approve of a particular policy. Just because Steve, for example, has relatives who express racist views does not mean that all Americans are racist. I havent done any formal studies on the subject, but America has quite a bit of diversity. And things have changed a loteven in the past 40 years. The children being born today will not have the same views as an angry 80-year-old woman who married a millionaire. And thats a good thing.

I sometimes wonder if the powers that be, regardless of which party happens to be in power, actually prefer that a lot of the chatter revolve around the partisan noise. Maybe anything to prevent people from seeing what actually happens is a winning formula in Washington. Politics has always been about control and money. There are probably many who enter into it with good intentions, but money and control are powerful beasts. Maybe its easier for some to think of all Democrats as bad and all Republicans as good or visa versa, but I think we all know that both groups are capable of corruption and control by special interests. If everybody is busy calling each other names, then maybe no one will notice whats actually going on behind the curtain. My advice is dont buy into it. All it does it let the fringe groups dominate the process. We owe it to ourselves as a people to rise above that. There are Republican leaders and Democratic leaders, and they have many differences. But they are all politicians..theyre in the same club.

As Bob Dylan once sang, Dont follow leaders, watch your parkin meters.


Entered at Tue Mar 23 02:52:51 CET 2010 from ool-44c628ae.dyn.optonline.net (68.198.40.174)

Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Alliteration

Asshole's Auntie admires Adolf, also!


Entered at Tue Mar 23 00:30:28 CET 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Motivation - Melancolia - meaning!

There are certain things that can motivate a mountain of feelings. Nostalgia, sadness, inspiration, admiration, and probably many more feelings.

For a long time, when I get motivated to get back into playing a lot of music, there are certain things that I have used to inspire me to work at it, and feel good about music.

There have always been certain people that I go to, listen to their music and watch them that helps me to want to "get at it" and do better. One particular person, has always been Richard Manuel. It is hard for me to choose which is the song that really moves me the most, because they both do so much, and always have. Watching and listening to Richard play and sing "Rocking Chair", or "You Don't Know me". So.........I put up this page, (I really hope it works), to see this particular time when Richard sang, "You Don't Know Me!

This is one of these times, when this gawd damn page doesn't seem to want to come up, so.......on youtube, just search, Richard Manuel, You Don't Know me......if you're interested.......it is great!


Entered at Mon Mar 22 23:20:11 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279612505.dsl.bell.ca (76.69.86.89)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Larry Campbell: On making music with Levon Helm and Bob Dylan

By Eric Olson
Published Mon, Jun 8 2009 2:00 pm

"Despite the passage of time, he remains careful with his words when talking about the Dylan Experience.

"So much has been written about that guy (Dylan). Ultimately it was a great experience. I havent quite figured out that experience to be able to put it into words yet. It was an alternate universe. I certainly dont regret doing it at all. It was a bunch of great musicians."

The recording process with Bob Dylan couldnt have been more different from what hes now experiencing with Levon Helm. Helm tends to work when the spirit moves over a period of months at times while recording with Dylan consisted of several two-week sessions of intense work. Both experiences created memorable musical results, but Campbell is very much focused on his current production.

"I am happy with 'Electric Dirt.' Im thrilled with it, actually. Weve managed to represent important features of what Levon is all about. Hes the perfect muse for my creativity."


Entered at Mon Mar 22 23:12:23 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279612505.dsl.bell.ca (76.69.86.89)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

DISLOCATIONS WRITINGS, OBSERVATIONS AND IDEAS EITHER CAUSED BY OR MEANT TO INDUCE A MINOR DISRUPTION.

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12, 2009
Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

"If The Band didnt exist, wed have to invent them. Roots, retro, Americanathese terms of genre so dominate Rock & Roll these days that is hard to remember when it was not so. We still owe The Band our continual rediscovery of old-timey music and applying these traditional forms in the exploration of the American story. Sadly, after The Band broke up in 1976, the legions of musicians they inspired lived up to the standards set by The Band more often than The Band members themselves did."

"Until last years Grammy Award winning, Dirt Farmer by Levon Helm."


Entered at Mon Mar 22 23:07:50 CET 2010 from blk-222-220-109.eastlink.ca (24.222.220.109)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Hey Joe

Check out the video Norm. OK it's not the same song but should raise a smile.

Incidently I loaned your CD to a friend (also a Jones). I haven't got it back yet. He's obviously enjoying it as he sang me a few bars of 'Old Dogs' at the post office the other day. I gave the requisite warnings about pirating music and hinted you were a starving artist but haven't lined up any orders yet. If I ever get it back I'm going to bring it to the lodge for our bean supper. Should go over well with the vomit and sawdust brethren. Hey if you ever need an agent in this part of the country..


Entered at Mon Mar 22 23:04:48 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279612505.dsl.bell.ca (76.69.86.89)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Levon Helm rode a Greyhound down from Patterson, New Jersey (when he was in the process of re-writing many of the poems of William Carlos Williams) and arrived in Lexington, Kentucky, on New Circle Road.

Levon looks at this circle wonders how many horse and dirtfarms were broken by this now not-so-new circle? He walks, left thumb extended, realizes his tremendous, beautiful, dirt-pure smile deters some. Left, right, breath, exhale, observe, left, right, breath, for miles: passes police station, Hustler billboard, a boundary of the once-famous Calumet Farm. He walks, with a three-mile stare, down exit ramp, hears the galloping beats, cathartic lyrics of Dirt course through fertile brain; tramps down Versailles Road, journeys along Alexandria, bypasses skeletal remains of Lexitalia, STD-laced payphone inside of Camelot West; ignores dresses designed for young Mexican daughters, enters Baskin Robbins. Let the bells ring."

Banana Pudding Bliss With Jim James and Levon Helm
by pianorollblues May 11, 2009
Banana Pudding Bliss With Jim James and Levon Helm
[written by Jo Son of Jo, 6/28/08, 8:29 p.m.]


Entered at Mon Mar 22 22:50:23 CET 2010 from blk-222-220-109.eastlink.ca (24.222.220.109)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

I predict that when you Yanks (and Rebs) get the hang of this universal health care thing you'll soon be showing the rest of us how it should be done. In a few years you'll believe you invented the damn system. And a whole bunch of GOPers will execute a very smooth about face and explain that thee reason they voted against it was that the Dems just wouldn't go far enough.

Norm, sunny and warm in these parts. Got a chance to go on the water yesterday when I 'helped' a friend move his long liner. We cruised for a hour and saw nary an ice pan.

See above link to Webb Pierce's 'There Stands the Glass'. Now that's honky tonk.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 22:40:16 CET 2010 from cpe-24-164-170-70.hvc.res.rr.com (24.164.170.70)

Posted by:

Lars

Subject: !!!!!!!!

Let me get this straight Bill.....you're saying even STEVE is a white supremist?


Entered at Mon Mar 22 22:30:14 CET 2010 from host86-160-42-193.range86-160.btcentralplus.com (86.160.42.193)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Another go

Hope link works this time.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 22:29:54 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Careful there Lars. It doesn't take a Jethro BoDean to figure out that my brother's sister-in-law is, um, naught goes into naught naught times carry the naught, my wife, and, as a corollary, my brother's sister-in-law's husband is me! Yikes!! Or, in the spirit of Peter V's earlier post, !!!


Entered at Mon Mar 22 22:20:42 CET 2010 from host86-160-42-193.range86-160.btcentralplus.com (86.160.42.193)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Best Beatles Album cover

I always wish the Beatles Ballads album cover had been the cover to the White album. It nearly happened.

This is my favourite Beatles album cover by the immensely talented John Byrne.

The Ballads album was not released in the States.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 21:42:30 CET 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Wheewww!

Well thanks David. My mind is still intact then. I thought I remembered it a long way back from Porter when I was a kid. All the googling I done, I couldn't find it. I totally forgot about that Bottom of the Bottle album......sadly.... it's true I'm getting senile.

I had a new amplifier I bought arrive today. I haven't used a guitar amp for a long time. I usually only play my Ovation and stick into the main sound system. Eddy, and Brian, the bass player who own the sound system at this concert - jam session - tribute we do have been giving me shit. Bring a gawd damn amp! they tell me.....ohhh awright,awright. So I bought this new Peavey from "Musicians Friend". Well Jesus! I didn't know the damn thing was that big. I'm so old now I can hardly lift it.

A Model 6505+ 112 - 60 watt amp well .......shit! I don't even know how to use it right. Now I got to practice. I got one of those amp stands, that tilt it back.......they sent me 2! I'll have to give one to my son.

I plugged that gawd damn Telecaster copy, Epiphone - Aria hybrid guitar I got in there. It has so much power I scared myself, and gawd damn near got kicked out of the house. This will take some adjustment.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 21:26:10 CET 2010 from cpe-24-164-170-70.hvc.res.rr.com (24.164.170.70)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: USA

Subject: Steve's Family

So....if I understand this correctly....Steve, your brother has a "white supremist" sister-in-law who you're throwing under the bus and expelling from your extended family tree; and your Mom has a sister who's also a "white supremist" but it's understandable-in both cases- because both women have moved to the US. As if the fact that they moved to the US would explain WHY they are white supremists.

Does your Mom know you're bad-mouthing her sister?


Entered at Mon Mar 22 21:24:47 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

westcoaster: I double-checked and my memory, at least in part, is still intact. Porter Waggoner included his version of "She Burnt The Little Roadside Tavern Down" on his 1968 album of drinking songs "The Bottom of the Bottle". Big bad Jimmy Dean covered it also around the same time. Johnny Russell's version appeared later, on his big 1974 album "She's In Love With A Rodeo Man".


Entered at Mon Mar 22 21:22:10 CET 2010 from (202.124.73.131)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: public health care: the pros and cons

in australia we have medicare. The cons, first

Some drs are greedy. So they rort the system. The system allows only a certain number of visits for particular services. This is actually ok, but for people with a chronic condition, it can be a struggle. The system allowed for the growth of medical centres, which were supposed to be more efficient' but mostly just corporatised health care. The big issue is the subsidy of private insurance. The argument is that the private sector takes some of the funding pressure off, but in fact it just forces lower income people to pay more...

Ultimately, though, here at least, everyone gets access to a doctor. So at least you can be diagnosed. There is a funding issue - the states fund hospitals, and so they are run on a shoestring - it's disgraceful, but the actual care is usually excellent.

To my dear american friends: don't panic ... just keep it away from the corporates, and you'll be right.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 21:02:55 CET 2010 from (63.88.115.195)

Posted by:

carmen

Location: Not the greatest generation

A gov't big enough to give you anything you want is a Gov't big enough to take away everything you have!


Entered at Mon Mar 22 20:31:33 CET 2010 from 21cust2.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.2)

Posted by:

Steve

Lars, if I have to spell it out for you, OK. Too many. One would be too many. And there's only one I'm aware of, I take no family responsibility for my brother's sister in law.

The relationship that's more interesting to me is that both women are Canadian born from very poor rural families and are now both right wing Republican Americans married to millionaires.

Interesting that both of them were drawn to the US and excessively rich fellows in their early 20's.

In both cases each women has several sisters ( one an identical twin sister)that remained here in Canada and don't seem to have those right wing, white supremacist, racist views, quite the opposite actually in the case of my mother's other7 sisters.

I guess that might put their racism into some kind of interesting context. What do you think , David?


Entered at Mon Mar 22 20:08:54 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: what a world, what world ...

NB: It says something about something that Visa and Mastercard have taken the place Peter and Paul in the metaphor - or if you like the simile - in modern parlance.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 20:07:42 CET 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Blatant Senility & Mind boggling googling frustrated inadvertent ignorance

Well David Powell, yer slippin.....bad! boy. I made a blatant mistake the o'r day a you let me get away with it. I mentioned "She Burned the Little Roadside Tavern Down" by Porter Wagoner.....WRONG! In a conversation I was just having with a guy I'll be playing music with in about a month, we were reminising.

There used to be a club we used to play at years ago in Surrey called "Pancho & Lefty's". One night while playing there years ago, they had Johnnie Russell booked in there, and we played some tunes with him. He sang that old tavern song, not Porter. I just googled it all up there, because this was straining my brain.

Next month when we play, I'm making these guys play a few more old traditional country tunes that we don't hear as much any more than this usual middle of the road stuff. Is Anybody goin to San Antone, (cause I like Flaco's buttons in that one). Long Black Veil, and "There Stands the Glass" just for starters.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 20:05:31 CET 2010 from cpe-24-164-170-70.hvc.res.rr.com (24.164.170.70)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: USA

Subject: Racism

Steve- since you've brought the subject up twice now and you seem to be "busting at the seams," just how many people in your family are rascists?

As far as the space program goes, I'd like to see the US balance a budget before we spend any more money on sending a man into the heavens.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 19:46:29 CET 2010 from vance013.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.58)

Posted by:

Northern Boy

How come the US doesn't scrap its space program entirely, then pump those billions directly into its big three priorities: health, education, and war (no particular order implied) ? Financially, it has to make at least as much sense as paying off your VISA with your MASTERCARD, so why not give it a shot ? NB


Entered at Mon Mar 22 19:35:20 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Peter V:

Subject: Toronto

Peter V: It was the pair of '65/'66 GBO albums with Bruce and Baker that I no longer have, unfortunately. "The Sound of '65" was the title of one, I believe, and the other I can't recall. The first I bought here around '79 and the other I got in San Francisco in '81. Did the cover photo on the second album look kind of Goonish (as opposed to Flanders and Swannish like the first)?


Entered at Mon Mar 22 19:18:26 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Context

Putting that particular political subject in proper context for this Guestbook is painfully [excuse the pun] obvious.

On the eve of the landmark Conressional vote on the healthcare bill, a documentary premiered at the SXSW Film Festival in Austin, Texas, entitled "Ain't In It For My Health: A Film About Levon Helm".


Entered at Mon Mar 22 19:07:36 CET 2010 from pool-96-227-90-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net (96.227.90.76)

Posted by:

bob w.

Vaccinated with a phonograph needle.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 18:46:06 CET 2010 from 21cust228.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.228)

Posted by:

Steve

Sorry David, I didn't mean to upset you though I knew it would.

Context? It was used to point to the not so subtle tea bagger racism behind some of the vitriolic sloganeering aimed at Obama's health care package. Geez, I've never used so many four syllable words in one sentence. It's played me right out. I may nap now.

Oh, wait, I forgot the restraint part.

You couldn't have known how much restraint I showed by only mentioning my aunt's outburst.

I didn't post my brother's sister in law's remarks. She's a neighbor of Charlie's down in Old Virginny Fredericksburg). That one would have curled your hair( still got hair?).


Entered at Mon Mar 22 18:00:11 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The fun of typos. Two "n's" in "annual." I read Brien's post three times before I realized it didn't say "anal physical". You'd probably have to pay $1800 for that.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 17:57:01 CET 2010 from s0106001c10a4a3a3.cc.shawcable.net (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Sweet Magnolia Blossom!....

Hey Joe!....where you goin' with that gun in your hand. I heard that song while driving along yes-a-day.

Joe my magnolia tree is almost in full blossom awready....out here on the sunny side of the street.

drop your coat & your hat.......leave your (health care) worries on the door step.

Just direct your feet, to the sunny side of the street!


Entered at Mon Mar 22 17:53:16 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: At the Chelsea Drugstore

Subject: Jimmy Miller

Yes, noticeably they were "standing in line with Mr. Jimmy" which was a little nod in his direction, I guess


Entered at Mon Mar 22 17:49:39 CET 2010 from pool-74-108-31-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net (74.108.31.76)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BEg/ Health Care

Beg Thank you. Great photo of him.

About Health Care, I hope it can work. I believe its a start. We managed to get our foot in the door. Over the coming years I think there will be a lot of refining. Perhaps one day we will actually be dragged to Universal Health Care (Kicking and Screaming). I'm currently on Medicare (no I'm not that old, near it but not there yet)and I love it. I am a victim of the insurance companies.High premiums paid for years, and when it came to pay out, they offered $4000 for an operation that took 2 surgeons 8 hours. I fought with them for a year and a half. It was not until The NYS Attorney General's office started looking into price fixing by Insurance companies that one day out of the blue, I got a check for the remainder.

I'm married to a Doc. He quit practice to start a company, but the stories I hear about the massive cost of malpractice insurance and the endless paperwork make me glad he is out A little reform will help.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 17:49:43 CET 2010 from cpe-24-164-170-70.hvc.res.rr.com (24.164.170.70)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: conservative USA..... with a lunatic fringe attached

Subject: we don't need those stinking exclamation points (truth).

One good thing about this tumultuous healthcare battle is that it got a few of us off of our asses. I wrote to my senators and reminded the of "Massachussets" and the Will of the People. Told them both that I'd have their jobs in Nov. if they voted for this Obamacare. I privately admitted to my wife during a weak moment afterwards that I felt horrible about having said that and I almost e-mailed them again after the vote to say that they shouldn't worry about my threat. I'm new in the political arena, but my daughter Sarah was a press agent for a state senator a couple of years ago. Once she couldn't help herself after I had mentioned our leaders are smarter than you think. She asked me if I believed in the Easter Bunny and then refused to go to her room without supper. My credibility has been shot in this household ever since, and I'm even wary of my Lab Retriever now. Look at that vacant expression, you just know the bastard is up to something.

I still say the President isn't as dishonest as you think.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 17:45:35 CET 2010 from ool-44c5ddd0.dyn.optonline.net (68.197.221.208)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

I think the trend for doctors is going to be the "boutique" practice that I encountered. I'm not enamored with my GP who is a nice enough woman but just doesn't cut it for me anymore. I was told about another doctor who is an MD but also is an integrative physician, which I love, but on top of the usual fees for a visit, she charges $1,800 a year to be your doctor. You supposedly get 24 hour as needed service and her practice is smaller than most plus she does these long consultations, talks with you, listens to you all that. Nice service but I generally only need to see my doctor once or twice a year and one them is for an anual physical - though this past year I had to go about 4 times. Still not worth $1800 dollars being that I hope I don't have to repeat a 4 time visit this year. But I'll bet the boutique service will become a more common trend.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 17:42:39 CET 2010 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: You Can't Always Get What You Want

It's doubtful that the Stones were peering into the future controversy over healthcare when they recorded "You Can't Always Get What You Want" for "Let It Bleed". After all, the Glimmer Twins never had a problem getting their prescriptions filled.

Last week I mentioned that producer Jimmy Miller was also a talented drummer and the above mentioned song is perhaps one of the best examples. At the time of the recording, Charlie Watts reportedly had trouble laying down the intricacies of the desired rhythm and left the drumming chores to Mr. Miller. Many today will say that Mr. Watts has still not been able to duplicate it in concert.

Steve: Once again you left yourself open. I, for one, fail to see the need to repeat racial epithets here in this forum, but context & restraint don't seem to be part of your vocabulary.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 17:15:06 CET 2010 from 21cust199.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.199)

Posted by:

Steve

Subject: The Temptation Of Steve

Jesus, Bob, just after I've sworn off using you as a verbal punching bag you slip in to offer your services once again. Tempting, really tempting, but as much fun as it would be to have you reprise your role as the dope in a couple of rounds of rope a dope I'm keeping Jan's request to let bygones be bygones rule the day. Sorry old chump, I won't be baited.

Brien, If you want to see the endgame effects of tax avoidance check out the state of affairs of Greece where tax avoidance is a national sport and they're about to get a visit from the EU Repo man.

Less than 20% of people there actually pay federal taxes.

I think the people in your country that don't hire tax avoidance lawyers and pay what the gov't feels is their just levels of taxation should be celebrated for paying their fair share. Everyone should.

I doubt any doctors will leave their practices over this. What will they do, work at call centers or join the 10% already unemployed?

Leading up to Canada getting a one payer system doctors here were saying the same thing. They were threatening to leave en masse and head for the US and a small number did.

Now doctors here are the biggest supporters of our system though there are still a small number trying to bring a US like system here.

Doctors are happy their medical insurance is so low, about a quarter of that of US doctors, getting paid is guaranteed, there are no need for bill collectors and they make a decent wage.

I think the average GP makes about $250,000.00 with specialists making $350 to $500,000.00. Not a bad deal.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 17:14:13 CET 2010 from mobile-032-164-095-161.mycingular.net (32.164.95.161)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: 2000 pages

Todd - I can't imagine any alterior rationale for making this thing fatter than required. It's a huge undertaking & is likely is no longer than need be. That gripe was just one more red herring from the GOP, their media reps & the teabagging morons.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 16:36:53 CET 2010 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Bill, I had Manfred Mann's "Instrumental Assassination" EP in my hand yesterday at the record fair (too expensive). Apparently the Mann LP at the same time (1967) was one of the first albums released on the then novel "Musicassette" format.

I'm not sure how well Graham Bond holds up to posterity. The earlier stuff is excellent but the "Magick" stuff circa 1970 is dire (I saw both incarnations).

Mention of Jimmy Miller's production last week. My other find this weekend was a single of The Weight by Spooky Tooth, which was produced by Jimmy Miller.

HEALTH. It all seems very novel now, but if you'd started universal health care in the late 1940s when everyone else did, you wouldn't even think there was any other possibility. It was horrifying watching the weirdos in Washington DC chanting on the TV News (not that they showed the remarks Steve mentioned), but they did show lots of bizarre people with placards proclaiming "Socialism!!!" with hammers and sickles and "No European Nanny State!!!" These people like three exclamation points.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 16:20:47 CET 2010 from 69.182.67.6.adsl.snet.net (69.182.67.6)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT - The Insurance Capital of the World

Thanks JQ, I'll check it out.

It makes you wonder though, why the bill had to be 2000 pages if it's not overly complicated. Still, for our sake, I hope that it works out for the best as intended.

One of the ways that this reform bill was played politically was that the evil insurance companies were finally going to be taken to task and reformed. Connecticut plays a large role in the insurance industry. Many of the newer & very large & expensive houses here are occupied by insurance industry employees. In my community, if you don't have a 3 car garage and granite counter tops, you probably don't work in insurance. (For the record, we have a two car garage and Formica, but I'm happy to have a roof over my head and a mortgage payment that I can handle most of the time.) Most of the folks that I know who work in the insurance industry did not seem worried at all by this bill, and were mostly in support of it. It leads me to think that the insurance industry is going to be just fine.

Doctors, on the other hand, are the ones who seem to be concerned. You'd think that it would be the other way around. More paying customers essentially. It may be years before we see how this really plays out.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 15:58:38 CET 2010 from mobile-166-129-235-027.mycingular.net (166.129.235.27)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Health bill details

Todd - Go to the New York Times front page & you'll find a listing of the immediate & long term results; it's not impossibly complicated once you take a good look. The likely outcome on the cost side is that, even if Obama's numbers are off, the popularity of this bill will ultimately be so strong that shortfalls will be covered in cuts in other areas; that might end up being the lever that pushes us to dismantle our empire and save loads of dough and other positives outcomes as well.


Entered at Mon Mar 22 15:30:56 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Hmm. I see that Bumbles no longer accepts Punch Cards - 'cause of the hanging chads, maybe? Also, one racist left on the entire continent and it happens to be a relative of yours! Amazing eh?

Peter V: I'm still wading through the Cream book, which deals in greatest details with the pre-Cream British R&B scene. Sure wish I'd kept a bunch of records that I once had - two British Bond Org LPs, a ManMann instrumental EP, etc. - because the book makes me want to listen to them again. I just got to Pete Brown noting that "Theme For An Imaginary Western" was not about American cowboys and pioneers but about Britain's early '60s R&B musicians. So I guess I wasn't quite so far off in thinking it suited our guys.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Helping Out

Well Bonk; Good luck with the fund raising. Always a good cause to help out the little folks.

I haven't been on your island in many years. In about 1977 I played music in the Ganges Pub with some locals guys. Really good bunch, called their band "Bog Water". Stand up bass, mandolin, some guitars, and they could play! It was a good time............later old son.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I was personally not in favor of this step in HealthCare but hopes it works out now that it seems to be moving forward. I don't believe it will cut the deficeit - I know Obama says it will but his numbers are based on unemployment dropping to below 5% and wages increasing at a pretty good clip over the time of the proposed bill. There's also the unknown of rising costs in the medical field that they forcast to the lower side but who knows. I read an op-ed piece that said that up to 30% of doctors could shut down their business because of this bill - i find that a bit ludicrous but what do I know. But lets say 10% of doctors leave and now you add 32 million people to the docket - that will more than likely make longer waits and poorer care over the long haul. There are things in the bill that are highly worth while but it always comes down to the cost on the taxpayer. Like Todd said - the rich will protect their money - they always do. But it isn't against the law either for the regular person to take advantage of new tax laws. I read once where the rich aren't afraid to protect their money and do while the middle class are terrified of protecting their money because they think its shady. It's also in part that they are uninformed. The tax laws apply to everyone - just how willing are you to educate yourself about it or are willing to pay a tax lawyer or a good tax oriented accountant rather than the regular run of the mill acountant who just does you taxes.

I believe in Health reform just not in this bill because of the enormous cost to a nation that is so in debt with over 10% real unemployment, a housing market in shambles, banks still running amuck and no clear direction on how we are going to move forward to get out of this - my slogan has always been with HealthCare " the Human condition should never suffer for anyones bottomline."


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Steve, your Aunt in Detroit may be from an older generation when the racial divide was greater in this country, but let me assure you that she is not representative of the majority of Americans these days. At least nobody who I know.

Im not sure how the specifics of health care are going to play out, and weve been told that well find out what is in the bill after it passes. Personally I feel that health care reform is much needed and long overdue. I think its great that people who need insurance will be able to get it now..or in a few years after we start funding it. I just hope that the bill is a good one. My confidence is not high. The cynic in me feels that the large insurance companies and the extremely wealthy will have already figured out a way to game the system leaving the bulk of the burden squarely on the shoulders of the middle class where it always seems to fall. The rich will always find a way to keep their money.

The brief analysis that I heard on the news this morning said that people already covered through employer-sponsored health insurance would not likely see an increase in their premiums. People making more than 88K per year would probably see an increase in their premiums, and people who buy their own insurance would probably see an increase. Im self-employed and my income varies widely from year to year, mostly trending downwards the past couple of years, so Im not sure what the personal impact will be on me yet. My guess is that the economy will feel the impact in tax increases and slower business growth (especially for smaller companies) rather than in personal insurance premium increases as a whole.

Id like to sign up for the free health care for everyone, and retire early. Seems like a better deal.

I dont know where Bumbles disappeared to, but his absence seems to coincide with Levons resurgence and critical success of the past couple of years. Back to back Grammy wins two years in a row! It just must have been too much for him to take.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Here's hoping you will embrace being left "speechless".


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Posted by:

Steve

Deb, glad to hear your family member finally seems to be assured of being able to get health-care. Hopefully it will be affordable.

I heard that "people" were outside The House shouting "Nigger" at some of the black members of Congress. If so, this has to be a new low in recent American political life.

My aunt in Detroit must feel vindicated. She's in her early 80's, is extremely wealthy, and has been a serious financial supporter of The Republican Party for as long as I can remember.

When Obama first was elected she told my mother, and I quote, " That nigger is going to take our money and give it to all those other niggers." It leaves you speechless.


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Posted by:

Frank Sinclair

Location: Live Oak, Florida

Subject: The Wheel, London, Ontario, Canada

Garth: We met at The Wheel. You came in and played piano while I was warming up on drums to play for the regular dance. The year, I have no idea. I am nearly 80!


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: April 11th

God damm Norm. We're holding a little shindig, on the 10th, for a fantastic little 5 year old who's trying to get to Germany for Stem Cell treatment. Great lineup. Aunty Kate, Dave Rolland, Brent Shindell, the Uncles of Funk, Bill henderson and more talent put together that the west coast hasn't seen for a while. So I'll probably be hung like a rats ass. But you never know....Cheers, Carl


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Deeeee....Photo of Robbie Westchester 1977 from Jaime Robbie Robertson Facebook

You're welcome Norbert. Robbie says of "Shutter Island" Soundtrack....

It may be the most outrageous and beautiful soundtrack Ive ever heard.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Joan....a photo of Ricky......
1984, Keystone Palo Alto CA. - shot by Russ Dugoni....from Robbie's Facebook


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Posted by:

Long Distance Operator

Web: My link

Subject: The Late Great Rick Danko

Howdy all, Haven't posted much in the last few years, but stumbled upon this Rick Danko article on Crawdaddy last night (link). Enjoyable read. My apologies if it's been posted before. Peace, LDO


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Shutter Island

Brown Eyed Girl, thanks for the Shutter Island link, we saw the movie yesterday, my wife explained me the plot afterwards (could have been the wine though). Anyway its a great movie, one of the best new around Id say. We talked about it for an hour after.

Bumbles, I miss him, where did he go?


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks , Mike, for the link, I'll definitely read it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I went to the record fair in Brighton today. It's a huge one I saw a new basement tapes collection allegedly by "Robert Allan & The Crackers". It's all stuff that's been out before and the title tempted me, but I didn't succumb. But "The Crackers" name is now on a CD.

A novelty was that 60s band The Downliners Sect (who I saw play circa 1964) had their own stall selling second hand vinyl which they were signing. I think they were due to perform later, but unfortunately I couldn't stay. They'd collected lots of used copies of their own LPs and 45s in quantity and had them for sale. They were auctioning a Rickenbacker bass later too.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bulwer, Boy! I say BULWER! BOY!( borrowing Norm's Foghorn Leghorn Shtick). Google it and you'll get The Bulwer Community Center which is at the end of our road about 2.5 KMs away.

I didn't see our road, Herring, on the map. Could be they don't think anyone would be looking for a road that only has one farm and a residence owned by a homersexual separatist couple ( not that there's anything wrong with that {take your choice}).

Joe are you now posting from Japan, the site of the annual dolphin slaughter, that was exposed in the Oscar winning documentary, The Cove?


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: German rock (Currywurst live)

Norm, The Scorpions; I dont know much about them (not a fan). I believe theyre from Hannover, thats about 100 miles east of where we live.

Good German singers for me are Herbert Grnemeyer and Xavier Naidoo (beware of the gospel though), there must be a lot more (Peter Maffay has a good band I know), Ill have t sort that out one day.


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: BEG's Spring Robbie Festival

Very enjoyable....keep up the good work!


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: NB

Very funny. Whatever happened to Bumbles? (Not that I miss him) BEG: Rongo Tongo?


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Posted by:

Location: Norbert

Subject: test


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: test



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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Playin' some music

Northern Nugget!........That's pure gold. We're playing April 11 this year. Same place.....maybe we can get Bonk to cross the water from his hippy island. He now knows one of the players there. He e mailed me a picture that Ian had took of us there last year.

I found something a little bit interesting on youtube yesterday. In 1955 at a high school dance, some "fan" took a movie and has now posted it on youtube. Elvis, Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash and Buddy Holly, before any of 'em were famous or had their own bands even. They are all just standing around chatting sort of. It's pretty cool memories, gawd damn we were young!


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: beyond Hope, BC.

Dlewsional: Before you're considered an international treasure, you have to be considered a national treasure. Before you're considered a national treasure you have to be considered a household name - and sadly, I'm not even a household name in my own household (where I mostly just get a lot of "Hey you !).

Stevon Farm: While waiting for your "Bumbles and the New Granite Band" album to arrive, did you notice the bottom left corner of the link also tells you how to become a "Bumbles Consultant". It reminded me of all the fun you and I used to have consulting Bumbles -oh, or maybe that was insulting Bumbles. Ok, well whatever. BTW, what do you want all that scrap metal for anyway ? Maybe you're like Chris Walken and "can't get enough cowbell", so are planning to make yourself a few hundred ? NB

PS. I won't be visiting you en route to NS this summer unless I have better luck finding Bowthayer, that little podunk town of yours, on a map of K-bec.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Hi there, Angie. No, I'm not going to see Levon at where is it, Massey Hall? It's not quite the same as Levon's barn.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

'Shutter Island' soundtrack casts eerie spell
By Star-Ledger Staff
March 12, 2010
Photo of Robbie by Chris Walker

NB...Bumbles' real name is Ronga Tongo....so his emails said. I was hoping we'd hook up in Jersey at Asbury Park but I guess he was busy one July 4th when Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes were performing.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Web: My link

The previous link may have been a dud. Try the one above.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Web: My link

Subject: The TAMI Show

Sherbrooke Steve and others inquiring about this legendary 1964 rock concert staged in Santa Monica, Calif., may be able to read about the machinations of making this film/kinescope in today's New York Times (link above). A DVD is set to be released later this week.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: The Cove

Just checking out a couple reviews of 'Ain't In It For My Health' from the What's New page. The 'Hollywood Reporter' notes that one Robbie Robertson was the songwriter and lead singer for the Band. I believe that's the consensus around here as well though I've seen references to back-up singers in some older publications.

Alidu I'll take a pass for the moment but keep in touch.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Another Generation Ponders The Ultimate Question Of Humanity

Lyric from the Indie group, Metric's, Gimme Sympathy,

" After all this is gone

Who'd you rather be?

The Beatles or The Rolling Stones

Oh seriously".

We may get to the bottom of " Is there a god?, before we sort out, Stones vs Beatles.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: NB - Have you been made an international treasure yet?

Clicking that link made me LOL! (as the kids say!)

Of course, maybe you should be buried... boom boom!


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Posted by:

Steve

Good work, NB. I'm now on the waiting list for the first album by, BUMBLES and The New Granite Band. Good old BUMBLES, at least he's been putting his time to good use.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: just beyond Hope, (BC)
Web: My link

Subject: Who The Hell Made Off With All the Pink From "Little Pink" ?

When "Little Pink" our former discussion forum for The Band tanked some time ago, someone obviously made off like a bandit with all that pink. And if you've ever wondered exactly who it was, let me assure you that you're not the first person to have asked yourself that question. Third-personally speaking, I've always liked that New Jersey Devil BeelzeBumbles for the crime, but till now I've had no idea where he absconded off to nor had anything to pin it on him with. But I think you'll have to agree that my link pretty much catches him pink-handed now. (Had no idea though that his last name is Design.) NB,


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Off the water

Subject: The Big Sting!

Hey Norbert! Do you remember the band Scorpion? I bet you probably saw them a few times. I never did, but this morning I was looking for something on youtube, and came across some videos of their performances. They played some really great music.

I never really got into their material that much over the years. They were pretty heavy metal for me, but they play some pretty great music.

I gotta get organized, I just got home from the ship last night.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany

Hello Alidu,

What does railroad steel do on the street at the moment? We need 2x 4,59m on short terms .(class II, certificated, double welded, no x-ray), can do business? Let us know, Norbert


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Posted by:

Steve

Our local CBC station( Montreal)played, Home Cooking, this morning. Almost knocked me off my breakfast chair. I've never heard it on radio before, has anyone else? Just curious.

Anyone else tempted by that offering of scrap metal? I'm particularly interested in rail scrap, just can't get enough.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Country

Subject: CCR 1969

Thanks DAVID P for pointing out that CCR was productive in 1969. For an amateur schoolboy band bassplayer like me it was a good start to imitate CCR. RICK DANKO in Music From Big Pink came from another planet!!!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Photos of Robbie Robertson. 'Shutter Island' special screening at the Ziegfeld Theatre - Arrivals. New York City, USA - 17.02.10


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

MARTIN SCORSESE & ROBBIE ROBERTSON: A PROFOUND & SIGNIFICANT RELATIONSHIP

Cinematic Passions by Miranda Wilding


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson interview explaining his picking technique, and why he used metal fingerpicks in conjunction with a flatpick in the early Band records...and why he didn't continue using them.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson / Johnny Otis / Dew Drop Inn


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Posted by:

Mr Alidu Issah

Location: Ghana

Subject: Au Metal Offer

We are Royal Procurement Limited, Ghana. We can offer you the following Gold Dust, HMS 1&2 and Rail Scrap (R50-R65) Heavy Melting Steel scrap cleaned standards Monthly basis. {1}. Alluvial Gold ( AU Metal {2}HMS 1&2 Heavy Melting Steel scrap cleaned {3}. Rail Scrap (R50-R65) We are looking for buyers on a long term basis. Availability: 15,000MT can be supplied on a Monthly basis both Used rail and Hms1&2. We are ready to establish regular and transparent business relationship with you. Kind regards, Mr Alidu Issah Email Address: royalprocurement@contractor.net


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Satanic Majesties

When one lot of Stones remasters came out, there were some long and good reviews. I didn't have a vinyl copy, a pity because the early ones with the plastic psychedelic square are worth a lot. I listened a couple of times to the remastered CD and my opinion was the same as it was in 1967. Since then even more people say they like it, so I think it could be in for another listen today to check. In the end, it just lacks good tunes.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: John Fogerty, Satanic Majesties, Black and Blue

John Fogerty with his band was one of the best concerts I ever saw. Seemed to be about 4 guitarists on stage. Great voice. Could hear every word.

It's years since I played Satanic Majesties. Maybe I should buy it and give it another go.

Joe J:Agree with Goats Head Soup, but not so sure about Black and Blue.

Miles away from the Stones just now. It's quite early on Saturday morning and I'm playing Bert Jansch. Great guitar playing.

Have a nice Saturday everybody. I'm away to look at a Roman bath house, the Northern limits of the Roman empire.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Satanic CCR's Back

I'd forgotten Satanic Majesties. Apparently Bill and Keef would like to as well, though Mick can find words in its favour. Its a bit like Berlin by Lou Reed, reviled for years then rediscovered and praised. A lot of the younger listeners who collect late 60s psych (one of the fastest growing areas for price rises) seem to enjoy Satanic Majesties obscuring the fact that at the time of its release everyone thought it dire.

Creedence. Three good albums, but if you extracted the singles and created just the one album from them and a couple of others, youd then have an album you could talk about in the same breath as The Bands material. I still see CCR as one of the ultimate singles bands. I was heavily into Willie & The Poor Boys at the time, mainly because it was one of a good friends two favourite albums. The other was by The Doors which naturally led me to suggest the CCR one every time a choice was offered.

MISHEARD LYRICS, a perennial popular theme. I saw My Boyfriends Back in a 1981 cover version by Sarah Brightman in the 20p box yesterday and picked it up out of curiosity as I always thought the original by The Angels was the ultimate girl group song. The Brightman cover is by no means bad and captures her as a pop singer between her Hot Gossip days and meeting Andrew Lloyd Webber. She met Lloyd-Webber in 1981 making him the boyfriend in the line Hes kinda big and hes awful strong which is unintentionally hilarious. Anyway, listening to it always takes me back to being sixteen and playing it on replay at the youth club. There was a very serious girl there and I recall her saying she didnt think the lyrics were very nice at all. To the boys, playing in garage bands and in constant terror of large boyfriends turning up and taking offence, the lyrics always seemed relevant. On further investigation it turned out that she believed the title was My Boyfriends Black.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: CCR '69

Despite Robbie's dismissive remarks, Creedence Clearwater Revival had a very productive & successful track record, especially in 1969. That year alone, in the span of eleven months, they released three albums -- "Bayou Country", "Green River" and "Willy and the Poor Boys".


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Posted by:

NB

Good one Steve. Na, I never took you for the metrosexual type.


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Posted by:

Steve

NB, I prefer homersexuality, why leave homer for the big shitty?

Bill, the greenhouse is in the farm workshop now as opposed to my basement woodshop. I know it sounds like I'm no further ahead but it was never a problem, of course. The greenhouse is made of 104 separate pieces of wood so while it took a lot of trips to get it out of the basement it wasn't difficult. Now I'm assembling it section by section and this workshop has a 14 foot by 12 foot door so I won't be stuck inside the workshop with the greenhouse blues again.

It's a remarkable design.

It's built out of 2"x2" lumber but since all the pieces are notched and lock together it's incredibly strong.

I found the design in a federal gov't booklet called greenhouses for the arctic or tundra, I can't remember which.

I built one in the late 80's and it lasted 15 years.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: The Rock

Subject: The Stones

That's just you Bill. Some of us think 'Exile' was as good as it got. 'Goats Head Soup' and 'Black & Blue' were vilified back in the day too but hold up remarkably well. Maybe not the caliber of earlier albums but still ...


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Flowers

All great Stones albums and I couldn't disagree with fellow GBers. But I would also say 'Flowers' has to be considered as a great album.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Not That There's Anything Wrong With It But....

Till just the other day when Steve came out of the closet and disclosed his "preferences", I had no idea that there were actually any regGAE LOVERS amongst us. There's no shame in this Steve; these things are pretty much decided at birth, I think. So no need to find the nearest Catholic church and go to confession or anything. Better really to embrace your "distinctiveness" and be proud of it. If you could tear yourself away from the farm and get to the big city though, I think you'd find they even have regGAE PRIDE PARADES etc. for folks of your persuasion. NB


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: your achy-breaky LP

Steve: If you have a hammer to go with that nail, I suggest you start with Exile. No need to be gentle.

By the way, how's the greenhouse removal project coming along down in the basement? Bound to keep you too busy to attend those "new country" line-dancing sessions that others have been trying to drag you to.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Ain't too proud to beg to differ

Peter: I believe the previous album, "Their Satanic Majesty's Request", rather than "Beggars Banquet", was the first containing identical versions for both the Decca and London releases.


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Posted by:

Steve

I'm just back with a 6 inch phosphate covered nail. Oh, where to begin!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Wasn't Beggar's Banquet the point where British and American releases had the same content for the first time? The earlier releases are marred from cutting around, and the CDs were the US versions. When they did the SACDs they finally released a couple in both British & American versions, but not "The Rolling Stones #2" which really needed release in the original British version. A German bootlegger filled the gap by compiling it in facsimile sleeves from the other remasters.

Aftermath is a contender for best few Stones albums too.


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Posted by:

Dsvid P

Subject: The writing on the stall

The release of "Beggars Banquet" was delayed several months when Decca & London Records rejected the original cover design depicting a graffiti-covered bathroom wall. It would have preceeded the release of the Beatles "white album", but when the Stones finally agreed to a similar white cover, the Liverpool boys had beaten them to the punch a month or so earlier.

One of the first songs from the Beggars Banquet sessions, "Jumpin' Jack Flash", which I mentioned the other day, was released first as a single and was not included on an album. This was a practice that the Beatles often followed also.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Sometimes it comes down to one song and Let it Bleed has "You Can't Always Get What You Want" also - the spectacular opening number........Hot Rocks was my first purchase and it stands as one of the best "greatest hits" releases ever....CCR's greatest is right there with it........I think David P and others might disagree but for the Band - I rank the brown album way ahead of Big Pink


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Non-competition clauses

In "According to The Rolling Stones", Keef says that for years The Beatles and The Stones discussed release dates, so as to keep their singles at least two weeks apart, which was mutually beneficial.

LPs probably counted, but I always think of the White Album and Beggars Banquet together because of the plain white sleeves. Going back to Sophie's Choice, I remember holding both wondering which one to buy. I think I'd just got my maintenance grant cheque. I don't recall whether they were close together in time!


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Beggars can be chosen

Many choose "Beggars Banquet" as a favourite, epecially from a technical standpoint for the recording itself. This was emphasized several years ago when listeners were treated with the Stones SACD reissues.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Let It bleed

There is no competition. Simply the best Stones album.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Stones albums

"Let it Bleed" is so far ahead of the others in that pack that it's not even a pack. Whatever comes next is gonna be more like the 1968 St Louis Blues as opposed to the 1967 Montreal Canadiens. For what it's worth, I'd rate "Beggars Banquet" as the Blues, "Sticky Fingers" as a poor third and the other two as real nose-holders. But that's just me.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Music From Big Villa Nellcote

An expanded, box-set edition of "Exile On Main Street" is in the works, which will include previously unreleased material. It will be interesting to hear the out-takes which were trimmed from what was originally a two record set to begin with, recorded mostly in the basement of a mansion on the French Riviera, using a remote recording truck. This comes on the heels of the 40th anniversary expanded edition of "Get Yer Ya-Yas Out" live material co-produced by Glyn Johns & the Stones.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: By Mr. Hoiberg; "...this web site, with it's stubborn '90s format and a retiring and tired webmaster, is slowly fading out of action and into the relics museum, ..."

Jan, I posted this to Mr. Torvalds for sometime ago and now I post it here: "Don't give up./ Ge inte upp./ l anna periksi."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Stones

I agree about those five albums being the greatest, though I'd place Exile on Main Street fifth, in contrast to every rock review ever which inexplicably (to me) places it first. The strongest songs are on the first three. I prefer Country Honk to Honky Tonk Women (though only just).


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: "I sung my song to Mr. Jimmy"

The Rolling Stones best studio work, as many, including me, would agree, came in collaboration with the late producer Jimmy Miller. This impressive string of recordings include:

Beggars Banquet (1968)
Let It Bleed (1969)
Sticky Fingers (1971)
Exile on Main Street (1972)
Goat's Head Soup (1973)

Mr. Miller was also a talented musician and his specialty, as evidenced in these recordings, was percussion. The accents & added elements in rhythm shine through in the recordings. Perhaps the best example, as Christopher Walken would heartily agree, is the cowbell in the opening of "Honky Tonk Women". In addition to strong grooves, Mr. Miller also favoured a raw, up-front instrument sound, blending with, and often burying, the vocals in the mix, as the title "Let It Bleed" suggests.

Prior to his work with the Stones, Miller is best known for his recordings with the Spencer Davis Group and Traffic where, in addition to his production, he also co-wrote "I'm A Man" and "Medicated Goo" with Steve Winwood.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: RR interviews

Beg, thanks for posting the RR interviews. Thats the first time I'd seen ant interviews from that period. His mannerisms changed alot between TLW and then - maybe not for the better. Though there's one point where he laughs and sounds just like Rick.

I'd love to see some pre TLW interviews.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: original and inspirational songwritng, linked above


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Posted by:

Gary A. Bewley

Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Web: My link

Subject: I know I have met or hung w/ same folks in Nashville,TN. when I caught you in a movie I said I know that dude and has happened more than once, so did you hang in Nashville from '70 to late '90s?

Whether or not that we met, I feel as if i know you... Great Music and a good Guy!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson Interview Part 2...1988


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson Interview...Much Music 1988


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Good Rockin' Tonight...Robbie Robertson


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: Southside
Web: My link

Subject: Soul Deep

Link is to 'Soul Deep' if your a poor unfortunate not to have a Box Tops at hand. 'Sweet Cream Ladies' never fails to amaze me. Cool version of 'I Shall be Released' too.

Know what you mean by hearing Roderick for the first time. Twas with me Mum and she was already familiar with 'Reason To Believe'. I wasn't. Me Mum also tipped me off to James Taylor and BST. Me Mum also loved Garth on 'The Genetic Method'.


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Posted by:

Young Hippie

Subject: Fess Parker

RIP the guy who played Davy Crockett on tv. My dad was a fan of that show way back when. Maybe some of you also know who I'm speaking of.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Charles Hawtrey did mince around a bit in Carry On films. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I hasten to add.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks Bill..........If Mike C had also picked up Arthur by the Kinks and Stand! by Sly & the Family Stone that day he might well have died of shock at the bang for his buck.......1969 was well before my time of making purchases at record stores but oh what a year it was for new releases...........


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for the Hawtrey correction. He wasn't the mincing "Carry On" regular was he? Yes, very very sad news about Charlie Gillett. If I had "The Sound of the City" at hand I'd type in what he had to say about Ronnie Hawkins' "Who Do You Love", notably Robbie Robertson's searing solo.

Dave H: Sad also about Alex Chilton.

Mike C: I agree, a haul like that is pretty much unsurpassable, quality wise.

Kevin J: Thanks for posting about Marcel Aymar. I too was a big Cano fan, though I never saw them. However, once the leader Andre (?) Paiement died and his sister Annette quit, moved west and married Bryan Adams's partner Jim Vallance (and through that got to write and sing the French lyrics for the "Tears Are Not Enough" record with Richard Manuel) I did see the remaining shards a number of times in Toronto clubs in the late '70s, backing former Kensington Market leader Keith McKie in an excellent but unrecorded group called The Last Dash for Cash. Violinist Wasyl Kohut dropped dead on stage at one of their gigs, though not one that I was at. Guitarist Dave Burt had previously been part of the Merryweather group of Torontonians who went to LA in '68 and recorded two LPs for Capitol, including one with guest performances by Dave Mason, Barry Goldberg, Charlie Musselwhite and Bobby Notkoff. A couple of years ago he was playing at Gate 403 on Roncies once a month, and it may well be him who leads the Canoe Blues Band who I see in the listings very occasionally.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bill M - might be the only one to know this?

I was flipping channels the other night and came across a musical performance that really impressed me - one of those things that you just stay focused on for as long as it is on. A rare situation that usually only happens to me while accidently catching Austin City Limits .......But this happened to be one of the 3 french language channels we have in Toronto and the performer was - I believe - Marcel Aymar......just acoustic guitar - great songs and a really magnetic delivery......they only flashed the name at the bottom of the screen once........looked into to it on Google and surprise surprise - Aymar was apparently a key member of Cano ( a great Canadian band of the 70's that was in my brother's record collection but not mine ) The thing is the guy on the tube had his head shaven and the limited pictures I've been able to find on the net don't seem to quite match....anyhow must have been him and just wondering if anyone else has ever caught this guy's act..........So rare but really great to turn on to something that just out of the blue knocks you out........examples include hearing Traci Chapman for the first time in mid 80's on FM radio.......hearing "London Calling" blaring from a neighbors house late 70's.......first time hearing Rod Stewart's voice in early 70's.........Seeing the Sex Pistols in a TV clip in mid 70's.....hearing Bob Dylan's voice as a kid and loving it.......etc. etc.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Rolling Stones

"And he yells and he roars
Loves the Stones, hates the Doors
Thinks the Beatles sing for girls
He's a moonshine guy in a six-pack world"
--Jason and the Scorchers (from their new album "Halcyon Times")


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Not Completely Stone Free

Peter, after my confessional post yesterday I was struck by the thought I hadn't checked Marge's college era album collection.

It hadn't crossed my mind that that stored away group might contain some serious rock and roll, Marge is now a new country listener with a, rock be damned attitude.

The first two albums I came across were, Hot Rocks and More Hot Rocks, so I have access to some of the material from Let It Bleed.

I haven't checked the condition of the albums yet but the jackets are in tip top condition so there's hope.

If need be, I can always replace the needle with a 6 inch phosphorus coated nail which might actually add a little more grit to the Stones sound.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Facebook users will probably have already seen this, and I don't htink it's on 'What's New' yet...

But... The film 'Tears of Rage: The Story of Richard Manuel' will be released by coincidence on the 25th anniversary of Richard Manuel's passing, March 4th, 2011!!!


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Posted by:

Mike C

Subject: How much is that album in the window?

Peter, your 3 albums post reminded me of that fine fall day in 1969, when I purchased The Band, Abbey Road, and Songs For A Tailor from a little record store on Main Street in Columbia SC, just off campus. If my memory serves me well, I gave the clerk a ten dollar bill & received enough change to buy a pitcher of 3.2 beer at the Opus. Not a bad day's work.

I never got so much bang for my musical buck, before or since.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Sound of the City

My alarm radio woke me to the sound of that great broadcaster and music historian Charlie Gillett talking about music. When that happens at 06.50 a.m. you know what's coming next.

So, R.I.P. Charlie Gillett, whose "The Sound of the City" is one of the definitive music histories. You open the monthly rock magazine nowadays and there are always five or six obituaries.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Speaking of mourning, it's time to add Alex Chilton to the list of those too soon gone.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: RIP Sim Savoury

The island's in mourning this Paddy's Day for Sim Savoury, gone before his time. Sim is best known as the accordion player in the folk duo Simani but he was so much more. In the Seventies he gave up the rock n' roll life and returned to the tiny village of Belleoram. Sim built himself a recording studio and became a local legend as a player and producer. Sim and his partner, Bud Davidge, recorded a lot of MOR, Irish & Country shit but it was always quality shit and they did a few gems that will endure for all time. Link is to my Simani favourite "Loss of the Marion". See also "Outport People", "The Mummer's Song", "Saltwater Cowboys" and "Music and Friends".


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: misc

The heroic Patrick Ronayne Cleburne, born in County Cork, Ireland, on March 17, 1828 (St. Patrick's Day), KIA Franklin, Tennessee, November 30, 1864.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: St. Patrick's Day

Thank you, Pat. That Sam Sweeney played a mean banjo (So did Jamie Dearing), didn't he?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Hey Ray P.

Lars, check the web page. Probably pretty muddy there today.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Irie St. Patrick's Day! Thin Lizzy's here!

ray pence...check!
dlew 919...check!


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Stones I throw on the turntable

Speaking of the Rolling Stones -- Saturday I picked up a copy of the smoking 45 single version of "Jumpin' Jack Flash" b/w "Child of the Moon", a B-side rarity later included on the "More Hot Rocks" compilation.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: misc.

The Gallant Pelham, KIA, Kelly's Ford, March 17, 1863.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Charles HAWTREY

Bill, this is an uncharacteristic lapse. Charles Hawtrey, genius in so many Carry On films, See the link.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Let It bleed

The major record buyer's Sophie's Choice of my life was Christmas 1969 in London's Oxford Street. HMV had three window displays: Abbey Road, The Band, Let It Bleed. A friend said, 'So which one do I buy you for Christmas?" Three of the greatest albums ever made, in one window on one day. Not that we knew then that it wouldn't get any better.

In short, if you have The Band and Abbey Road, you really should have Let It Bleed too.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Another Fab Four Fan

Peter, the reason I don't have ANY Stones albums started back when I was about 10. Our gang ( about 6 boys) decided that we were Beatles fans and made a group decision that we'd only buy Beatles albums and that the Stones sucked. I think one kid ( Peter Melrose) may have been threatened with violence because he insisted that the Stones were better than The Beatles.

I think that whole episode turned me off to joining groups where group-think was involved.

We maintained the prohibition til The Beatles had completely sucked up our meager allowance money. By the time I started working, at about 16 in 1970, girls replaced The Beatles and by the time I got back to buying music in the mid 70's I had moved beyond The Beatles and The Stones and moved on to Reggae, I have more Reggae than any other kind of music.

I always liked The Stones radio hits, some of them a lot but never bought the albums because when I'd hear friend's copies there were always too many songs on an album I didn't like.

I may get, Let It Bleed, but don't tell anyone.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: (not) born on the bayou

I've rarely been put off when anyone puts on an 'accent' for singing - although I agree some of the British Invasion wannabees were pretty cringeworthy. It was funny watching some of PBS's Ed Sullivan Rock 'n' Roll stuff the other day - Eric Burdon sounding a little bit Southren and the execrable Peter Noone trying as hard as he could to be Englishly adorable.

It's a natural tendency to sing Nashville-model songs with an Opry sort of accent. The Band _almost_ goes there with "Long Black Veil." Since forever, I've felt The Band was more mature and . . . honest, somehow, than the pop-music norm; the sing-in-your-own voice choice is part of that.

Fogerty, I think, was a California kid who discovered his heart was in New Orleans (or some neighbouring parish) and therefore attempted to approach the rebennackian in pronunciation here and there. . . . I'm not sure what to make of the CCR-precursor group name The Golliwogs, except to say it makes The Crackers sound pretty tame.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

Peter V: Speaking of things that never was, how about "I Dig A Pygmy" by Charles Daughtry and the Deaf-Aids"? (At the very least, this caused local poet-rocker and Fab-Four fan Robert Priest to call his group the Def-Ayds; the group also included Steve's fellow-farmer, Allan Fraser.)


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Mountain and Woodstock

And Mountain's principal drummer, Corky Laing, reports in his autobiography (which comes with a preface by Levon Helm) that he got two gold records from Woodstock without having been there - one for cowriting "For Yasgur's Farm" and one for overdubbing the drumming on Ten Years After's "Goin' Home" because Ric Lee hadn't been miked.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Wagons at Woodstock

Bill M: Mountain performed "Theme From An Imaginery Western" during their set at the 1969 Woodstock Festival. At the time, their drummer was N.D. Smart, providing connections to Ian & Sylvia, Hungry Chuck, Gram Parsons & others.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: ... and some were lost along the way

David P: As I've said before, not only is "Theme From An Imaginary Western" a brilliant song, it reads as if it was written with our guys in mind (as the subject, not the performer).


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: When the wagons leave the city...

Then there's "Theme From An Imaginery Western" written by Jack Bruce and his writing partner Pete Brown. It first appeared on Mr. Bruce's 1969 solo album "Songs for a Tailor" and was also covered by others, including Mountain.

The talented guitarist Guy Van Duser recorded & performs an extended medley comprised of snippets from the theme songs of the great television westerns of the 50's & 60's. It's a great trivia challenge for baby boomers to recall & name all of those tunes.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Theme That Never Was

The Graham Parker concept sounds like no, suspiciously like an album called "The Theme That Never Was: Fictional Film &Imaginary TV, 66-73".

It's by The Rich Morton Sound and instrumental. It's an own label (Homage to Fromage) production, which found its way on to a recent covermount disc (The Word. I think). It says "copyright 2008". There are 18 instrumental tracks, but the added pleasure is that Rich Morton provides a plot synopsis for each imaginary film plus an imaginary cast list (with the names of real actors).

So for example the track "Sounds Cinematic" is said to be from the long-lost pilot for a 1968 series called "Time Trip." It's about a shop in Portobello Road called Psychedelic Relics. The characters find that an old grandfather clock enables them to travel back in time. The imaginary cast includes Adrienne Posta as Harmony Hart (of teen group The Hart Strings), Judy Geeson as Polly Starkins, Irene Handl as her mother and (for a Band connection) Michael J. Pollard as Chad S. Xavier.

He must have had a lot of fun writing all the synopses. The 2010 Graham Parker, with songs instead of instrumentals, sounds incredibly like Morton's 2008 concept!


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Posted by:

NB

Cute Deb. Yes Bill your impression of Truro families as being "very close" is quite accurate. In fact last year in 90% of all Truro divorce cases the two (former) spouses though now divorced, still legally remained brother and sister. NB


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Posted by:

Deb

Web: My link

Subject: Faraway eyes

I think the song's funny, too. Peter. The accent sounds like Mick Jagger trying to sound like a country singer and that's part of the package. If they were going for a serious take on a classic country song, he'd just sound stupid, kind of like the American bands who took on a sort of an ambiguous Liverpool-ish accent during the 60's.

For a song that accomplishes what the Stones were going for here, by someone who knows the genre and doesn't have to affect an accent, try David Alan Coe's version of Steve Goodman's "You Never Even Called Me By My Name."


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

NB: It's nice that you're visiting Truro later this year. I have the impression that it's one of those places where families are very close: cousins, siblings - same thing. You might ask the cousins about the Novatones, a pre-MacKay forerunner of the Lincolns who released a lively Little-Richardish 45 ca '61. I knew that John Gray had written "Billy Bishop Goes To War" with Oscar Leroy, but the bit in the link above saying that he'd also done a Don Messer musical was news to me.


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Posted by:

Deb

NB, I didn't guess any correctly, but I'm finding slight comfort in the fact that Levon probably couldn't pick my five favorite songs either.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: There's a Southern (London) accent

On accents / Mick Jagger, how does everyone find "Faraway Eyes"? I love the song and always find his broad-brush piss take hilarious, but what does the accent feel like to Americans? I assume it's like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins to us. (This is one of the worst British accents committed to posterity).


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Graham Parker's new concept album

The concept? Theme songs for _Imaginary Television_ shows.


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Posted by:

joe j

I had already seen Levon's list and I still only got one. Actually there's a couple with which I'm not familiar. I'll have to add them to my 'Must' list.

Heard Russell Crowe covering a Big Sea song yesterday. Don't believe he's about to give up his day job, speaking of which, it's 8:30.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, to borrow a move out of David's handbook ( David, If nothing else, I've learned how important it is to give credit where it's due posting here) let me reprint your offending post keystroke for keystroke, I apologize in advance, of course.

Dlew, a gay guy on TV assured the world that the percentage of gays in rugby football is vastly higher than in the average ballet troupe.

Peter, a statement like that that can be seen as homophobic by someone who wishes to see it as such should ALWAYS be followed, IMMEDIATELY, by, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

On a lighter but related topic, didn't one of those rugby players bite another fellow's testicles during a match recently.

Hockey players wear jockstraps to prevent just such unwanted aggressive sexual advances during play.

To help prove your reprinted quote at the opening of this post, our friend's daughter is a member of Canada's National Women's Rugby Team and she's been openly gay since she was 14. NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

I'll address the lack of Stones material on hand after morning chores.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Levon's favourite songs

I got just the one, "Deep Feeling" because he mentions somewhere that his first 45 purchase was School Days and that the B-side was an all-time favourite. The 90s Band did it a lot - they either did Deep Feeling or Many Rivers to Cross as instrumentals which showcased Jim Weider. I don't think they ever did both on the same show. Definitely one or the other.

It's on lots of tapes. The only officially released version by The Band is on the "Live at Loreley" DVD. The version on Big Foot by Jim Weider & The Honky Tonk Gurus features Randy Ciarlante, Stan Szeleste and Garth Hudson and was recorded in 1990 then overdubbed.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: beyond Hope (B.C.)

Subject: A Second Quiz To Restore Your Self-Esteem After The Previous Quiz Kicks Your Sorry Ass

Go back the LHS website (NO LINK; find your own way there this time, loser). Go to FAQ's (most frequently asked questions) regarding attending Rambles. Scan the entire list of most frequently asked questions and then select THE TWO STUPIDEST (pronounced "too stupidest") QUESTIONS on the list.

I guarantee you'll score a perfect 2 out of 2 and will start to feel like your old smug, omniscient self in no time. NB


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Web: My link

Subject: Can You Guess Levon's Top Five Favourite Songs ?

These would all be non-Band songs, though some may have been done at Rambles. To my knowledge, none were covered by The Band, either as a group or as individual artists (though I could be wrong). Why not write down your five picks, go check them out at his website via MY LINK, then maybe come back here and report your score HONESTLY (if you're man enough).

I shouldn't brag but personally, I was a perfect zero for 5. The answers are on the bottom of the first page once you enter his site. The only clue I'll give you is that Levon's #1 song was covered on Jim Byrnes' most recent (and most excellent) album, "My Walking Stick". So if you Google the songs on Jim's album you at least have a chance of not being shut out completely, unless of course you go ahead and pick "Ophelia" despite what I told you already! In which case, you need to realize that you're simply dumber than a stick. NB


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: When the train left the station it had two lights on behind

Hang on, Steve "Love in Vain" Robert Johnson? You don't have a copy of the ultimate Stones album to hand? Seriously, everyone needs a copy of "Let it Bleed".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dlew, a gay guy on TV assured the world that the percentage of gays in rugby football is vastly higher than in the average ballet troupe. I totally believe him.

Joan, Miss Teen South Carolina was wonderful. She couldn't even understand the question let alone answer it. But one of the terrible things about life is that if you look just like Barbie and have the same amount of brain between the ears, you don't really need to know geography.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Hockey

Growing up, I played grass hockey at school, one of the few sports I was good at. As it didn't involve standing in the sun for 5 hours, or sticking your head between someone else's legs, it was considered a 'fag's game' by those who enjoyed playing such sports....


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Posted by:

Steve

Don't know the song, Deb, I'm not a big Stones fan. Though I might not recognize it by name maybe I'd recognize it if I heard it. How about humming a few bars.

I've never had the pleasure of speaking to Mr. Fogarty and don't even think I've ever heard him speak. Maybe a little between songs on Austin City Limits , once.

You can probably tell me if he has the same Runnin Through The Jungle accent when he speaks as when he sings

Maybe he's got that George W thing where he speaks like he's from a part of the country he didn't grow up in. Did his brother, Tom, speak with the same accent?


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Posted by:

NB

Bill, as with all entertainment I saw back in our high school gym, I have no recollection of your man Frank MacKay - therefore I am quite certain he did indeed perform there. Strangely however, my Mom was born in Truro and though none of them will ever admit to it, I'm related to a number of Bluenosers by the last name of MacKay so maybe I'm related to Frank. I'll have to ask one of my Truro cousins when I'm down there in mid-July. NB


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Geography and The USA

What can I say?


Entered at Tue Mar 16 18:18:13 CET 2010 from (216.226.180.3)

Posted by:

Deb

Steve, you mean the way Mick Jagger sings on "Love in Vain" doesn't reflect his speaking accent? Happens all the time.

Back in the early 90's, John Fogerty attended the dedication of what eventally turned out to be the first of three tombstones for Robert Johnson (in three different sites, but that's another story) in Morgan City, MS. I don't know anything about him as a bandleader, but can say that on that day he was pleasant, polite, self-effacing, and careful that his presence not distract from from the reason for the event


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: To add a bit to your amusing reference "the Hawkish 5 on 3 or 5 on 4", there's always Ronnie Hawkins' line, "We didn't have no orgies; just eight or nine people deeply in love."

Until the "Score!" movie's done and is a success, the ultimate Canuck rock and roll musical will be "Rock and Roll" by John Gray, who based it on his own stint as a member of Truro, Nova Scotia's seminal Lincolns group of the mid '60s. No records, unfortunately, aside from a '70s reunion LP engineered by Robbie's old pal and Suedes groupmate, Peter Traynor. Two real singer/musicians had major roles in the play. The lead singer was Frank MacKay, who had been in the real Lincolns and in Soma, who NB may remember seeing in the gym at Dunbarton High in '70; he later did a solo LP with Amos Garrett on one track. And, speaking of the Suedes, John Rutter (aka Johnny Rhythm) was MacKay's sidekick in the play.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, his accent works for me as well, I just think it's not necessarily an American accent that represents any place in particular such as Levon's does.

It's kind of a mishmash. Is it an accent that would be heard in The Bayou ? It seems to have been invented to match the songs. I could be wrong and it's his natural voice. Did he have it with his very earliest recordings?

Todd, 2or 3 years ago I did a 20 mile ride on the bike trail in that area of Newport. Beautiful ride.Part of the time I was sharing a two man bike with my brother in law who is a marathon bike racer.

He has this $4,000 luxury, double racing bike. I don't remember how fast we got up too but it was thrilling.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Shoo-rah! Shoo-rah!

Another 50p find, Betty Wright's 1974 Shoo-Rah! Shoo-Rah! written by Allen Toussaint. It's a great Toussaint song, but one bit leaps out in the lyric:

"I check you out from the corner of my eye. You and the devil walking side by side"

It's safe to assume that the line stuck in Toussaint's mind while arranging the Rock of Ages show!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Interesting on Fogertys accent. Youre saying that like Richard Thompsons weird accent, its an artifact? It works for me anyway. I put on a little Creedence in the car just earlier nice and loud. The two most important instruments are John Fogertys voice and Tom Fogertys rhythm guitar. You get the feeling that rhythm guitar, not drums or bass, drives the whole machine.


Entered at Tue Mar 16 14:26:16 CET 2010 from 69.177.230.180.adsl.snet.net (69.177.230.180)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: Northeastern United States

Subject: Finding Canada

Steve, you get a pass on needing to look at the map to find Rhode Island. As you probably know, it is the smallest of our states, and good chunk of it is liquid. As a neighbor to Rhode Island, I should actually know it better than I do. One time, many years ago, I missed the entrance to the Newport Bridge after leaving the jazz festival, and ended up driving all the way around Narragansett Bay to get back to Connecticut. It easily added an hour to the trip. My favorite place in Rhode Island is Block Island, about 12 miles offshore, although its been many years since Ive been there.

Perhaps I have an unfair advantage to my some of CT neighbors in being able to find Canada. I spent a few of my childhood years living in Plattsburgh, NY near the shores of Lake Champlain, about 20 miles south of the Canadian border. Day trips to Montreal were not uncommon. I may even have some winter in my blood.

I think one thing many people dont really think about, is that a good chunk of the US is actually further north than many of the well-populated cities of Eastern Canada. It would have been fun to see some of Steves trust fund college buddies wrap their heads around that one. Many people from NYC view anything further north than Westchester as another world, and many people from Boston view anything west of Concord as another world. Connecticut is simply known as being halfway between the two cities.

I havent spent much time watching field hockey, but having just spent the past few months following my 11 year old daughter around to her travel basketball games, Id have to say that girls are as fiercely competitive at sport as any boys games that Ive been to. I wouldnt want to get in the way of female athletes.they play for keeps.

I was a big fan of John Fogerty with CCR and also when he sort of re-emerged 15 or 20 years ago. His performance of Midnight Special at the Salute To The Blues concert in NYC several years ago was very powerful, but the last time that I saw him on TV in a Live By Request type of show, I found it a little boring. Im sure the experience would have been more energizing in person, but it didnt translate to the small screen for me. Although he has the songwriting skills and musical and vocal chops, I dont think that he would have been a good fit with The Band. I see John Fogerty as being more of a dictator. The thing that made the Band great was the strength of their collaboration together, and there arent many front men who would really fit into that role neatly. I think that Larry Campbell fits well as a collaborator with Levons current line-up, but he probably wasnt quite ready or available or had enough years on the road behind him for that in the early 1980s. Ive sometimes thought that Bob Segar could have been a good fit with The Bandat least some of his songs.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: echoing along the Hall

All hail the PBS pledge drive . . . tuned in the other night just in time to see Fogerty in a RRHOF concert special . . . "Green River," my very favorite CCR song . . . and JRR on second guitar . . . friggin' sublime, it was. JRR even managed to improve "Let It Be" a little later (and that takes some heavy lifting). This morning's news has the new inductees: ABBA, Genesis, Jimmy Cliff, I. Pop & the Stooges . . . .

CBC 2 played Levon this morning, the one where he's leaving his troubles in the graveyard. Then the DJ gushed for about 30 seconds about how great it was. All hail CBC. The man mentioned Levon's age and opined that a youngster couldn't carry a song of that sort - "you need some gravitas."

Steve: yeah, and "stickhandling."


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, before the Yanks take you hostage I think you should straighten out baseball and softball in your post. I don't think British girls are playing baseball.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I was thinking about your description of Fogarty's voice. He has the most bizarre singing accent. It seems to be created for the music and not an authentic American voice since it seems fabricated. Maybe it's his natural accent but he sure doesn't sound like an Anglo American from California.

Todd, I had a chuckle at your comment about being able to find Canada on a map.

When I went to Providence in 72 people thought I was from Conn. when they heard me speak.

I remember telling people I was from Canada. They were usually surprised when I explained that it was only a 5 hour car ride away.

They really had no idea where it was and these were mostly financially privileged, well educated college students from Conn. Mass and Rhode Island.

When I'd explain that it was north of Vermont many of them had no idea where Vermont was exactly. They knew it was north of them but had no idea where it ended and what lay beyond northern Vermont. I think n their minds Canada could easily be confused with Siberia.

To be fair, when I got a phone call from the coach at Providence College I had to get out a map to find Rhode Island and was disappointed to see that it was so close to where I lived. I was hoping for a more exotic location.

maybe it's time to invade Canada again.

@@

(~~)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Never played hockey, Steve (grass variety) but I thought the England male team won the world or Olympic championship once? A vague memory. In Britain, baseball is a girls only game, as it should be, lacking the danger and manly skills of cricket. I think hockey is mainly too.

I would like to see more ice hockey here though. The ice rink in Bournemouth shut down about twenty years ago, but there's talk of building a new one. That is a great game for spectators.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Subject: RR/Fogerty

I can't remember where I read it, but I always was under the impression that Levon not performing with RR, Garth and Rick at the RRHOF, was Levon's choice, not RR excluding him. I mention that because in the article the writter points out that when CCR was inducted into the RRHOF, Fogerty refused to play with his bandmates, and draws a comparison to RR excluding LH at the BANDS induction, which if I read what I thought I did the writter got it wrong.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Once More On Grass Hockey

Peter, I was thinking about one aspect of grass hockey last night that may only apply here. Males never played the game.

It was a sport reserved for girls in school. I don't think I've ever had one of those cute little sticks in my hand and I played every sport available in my teenage years. Is it played by males in the countries where it's popular.

Peter, as usual I have to tighten up that comment by Robbie. His statement not only said that the Band wasn't like CCR in that way ( John F and some sidemen), he explained why it wasn't. He left the impression that it could have been but he chose not to make it that way. That's the rub.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: CCR

I agree that the CCR rhythm section was under-estimated in Robbie's statement. I mentioned his TV broadcast in the UK last year where the drums were stereophonic to a mid-80s degree, to the detriment of the songs. There are great songs on every solo venture, and I've always felt that CCR cut "traditional albums", i.e. two truly amazing singles, a great cover or two and filler. In that way they were unlike The Band or others who cut albums that stood up as a whole. I got Cosmo's Factory and Willie & The Poor Boys 40th Anniversary editions, and they didn't change my mind. The ultimate CCR album will always be a "Greatest Hits" because their strength was as a singles band.


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Posted by:

CCR

What some people fail mention is that, John Fogerty was never as good on his own... as he was with CCR. There was something to the combo that could not be replicated by studio musicians.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Geography & Fogerty

My amusement at the comment on radio was enhanced by just having finished Garrison Keillor's "Pilgrims" where he accompanies a party from Lake Wobegon to Rome. It is a clich, and I'm shocked at the average geographical knowledge worldwide.

On the war thing, last night I watched the film "This is England" which intersperses the story of a violent gang of patriotic right wing thugs (those four words fit together so neatly, I find) with archive pictures of the Falklands "Conflict" with horrifically injured soldiers, and Argentinian dead bodies, all very young men, being lined up. It's designed to make you think of Afghanistan and Iraq, and it does.

I sat down on Sunday and decided to focus fully on the recent John Fogerty album for no apparent reason, not having read the Robbie comparison. It was Robbie who referred to CCR in an ancient Rolling Stone interview as "just John Fogerty and a bunch of guys" (or similar). His point was that the Band was not like that. John Fogerty would have fitted the 80s or 90s Band extremely well, but he's three things I'm sure Levon would not have tolerated.

First, he's a top songwriter. There would have been little question about who was providing the material. He knows the score on credits too, and there wouldn't have been six composer names on a twelve bar blues.

Second, he's a signature iconic singer with a distinctive, strong and very American identity, thus occupying Levon's own role. They actually needed a Richard replacement vocally with a different kind of voice, though in the 90s with Randy adding in, I don't think there was much if anything missing vocally.

Third, he's a band leader. No question there.

So, I don't think he would have fitted.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: Earth

Subject: World Geography 101

Maybe theres something to the idea of geographical lessons gained during wartime. After all, I think most Americans and other citizens of the world would have no trouble finding places like Pearl Harbor and New York City, for example, on a map..not to mention Normandy. Those were all popular wartime locations.

Geography is a fun subject.and I suppose its always fun to poke fun of Americans(Im assuming the BBC joke is aimed at Middle Americans rather than Northern North Americans or Central or South Americans)

One thing to keep in mind is that the United States is made up of 50 states. Weve got a lot on our plate here. Just thinking out loud, I wonder what percentage of the residents of the 25 or 30 countries (or States if you will) that make up the European Union could place each of the United States properly on a map. Just something to ponder.

Lest anyone think that I lack a sense of humor, or am somehow displaying an insular attitude, I should point out that Im proud of my heritage, which includes American, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, English, and Irish. My kids have all that plus Italian, French, and Native American. My guess is that there are people all over the globe who are largely ignorant of the world beyond their borders. The sad thing is that many folks around the world get their view of America through television shows and movies, and probably think that all Americans are supremely wealthy and live in some sort of Beverly Hills 90210 fantasy land.

Anyway, I bet most of us could at least find Canada on a map. ;-)


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Ray - BEG is a fervent, genuine and fairminded Robertsonian

One of her many wonderful qualities is how she'll post anything about Robbie, the good, the bad and the ugly.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Subject: me again, one last time for tonite

just for the heck of it, and against my better judgment, i went to the link for matthew bonehead's take on Robbie, and found what i needed to confirm my low opinion of him:

"Robertsons solo career also follows a similar pattern as to his time both within The Band, and after their breakup: the pattern of being a flaming jag-off. How much a jerk you believe Robertson to be is usually inversely proportional to how much you like his former Band-mate, Levon Helm, since most of the more juicy tales about Robertson are tied to the decades-long feud between the two men."

Leaving aside the immature, unprofessional, downright stoopid prose and the recycled bile of "the feud," let me identify myself as one of the not-so-rare people who can walk and chew gum at the same time, or, if you like, can enjoy the music of both Levon Helm and Robbie Robertson and also admire both men for what they've contributed to music, to my life, and to the lives of many other good people...

i don't regret one dime i've spent on any Band project, group or solo (with the possible exception of the Watkins Glen CD, and even that's valuable as an oddity), nor do I find anything incompatible in enjoying Contact from the Underworld of Redboy just as much as I enjoy Dirt Farmer, but I wouldn't expect bonehead to comprehend that because it's not a marketable point of view.

as for what matt bonehead contributes, it is a big fat zero or less than zero as Elvis Costello would say, and I'm sure that bonehead would have plenty of dirty laundry about EC with which to festoon his journalistic cubicle...but so what???


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Posted by:

ray pence

Peter V

Just heard on BBC Radio: "War is just God's way of teaching Americans geography."

Apologies, but it is quite funny.

no apology needed Peter it's true in too many cases...and sometimes even then we don't learn the geography.

one from Winston Churchill: "you can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they've tried everything else." if/when the President's health care bill is passed that statement will apply.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)

Subject: john fogerty/robbie robertson

I'm gonna get in trouble for this, not with brown eyed girl i don't think, but maybe with others, but here goes...

I think it's very easy for people who make their living from writing about real and imagined conflicts and exploitations over and over and over again to make comparisons like these...and i think the comparisons are crap and say everything about those who make them and nothing about those who make the music...

but to my ears, as much as I love both RR and the Band, together and apart, their post-1976 music just isn't as good without him, nor his without them...

and that is even more true of CCR--let's get real here, and ask ourselves just what the other members of that band accomplished without JF...and insofar as the controversies about songwriting, band leadership, etc., this was an entirely different situation than what has been reported about the Band (and challenged by some members of the Band, notably Garth...)

It was John Fogerty who got screwed by his record company and harassed by them, well into the 1980s and it was John Fogerty who was primarily responsible for that band's brilliance and success. All you gotta do is listen to what he did with them and what he did on his own and it's crystal clear that he was the leader and for good reason--he had the most talent in that band and he knew how to use it, still does.

There is far more to separate the stories and the sounds of the Band from CCR than there is to match them, IMHO, and I think the writer of this article is a clown. That doesn't mean I think brown eyed girl was wrong for posting it, I am sure she knows that, but i'm inclined to think she posted it as an example of pure nonsense that gets in the way of enjoying great music.


Entered at Tue Mar 16 01:38:46 CET 2010 from bas3-toronto02-1279400723.dsl.bell.ca (76.66.27.19)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Monday, March 8th, 2010
When Good Albums Happen to Bad People: John Fogerty, Centerfield
by Matthew Bolin

"John Fogerty is on very many levels the American version of Robbie Robertson. Or maybe Robertson is the Canadian Fogerty. Either way, they have quite a lot of things in common: both were the lead songwriters for Hall of Fame bands from the late 60s and early 70s known for merging rock and roll to other forms of American music. Both are underrated guitarists. After their bands broke up, both spent long periods of time in the 70s and 80s away from the studio before returning with critically acclaimed solo albums. And, both are well known as jerks who may have manipulated their bands contracts for their own financial benefit, held lifelong grudges against their bandmates, and have put out a stunning lack of good music in the last 35 years, likely in part due to their inability to get over themselves and their own legacies."


Entered at Mon Mar 15 23:53:32 CET 2010 from 21cust87.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.87)

Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I've played it on grass but don't recommend it unless everyone one else is as well. It's not a performance enhancer.

Sadavid, they seem to have overlooked the obvious ones, like scoring or hitting the five hole, making passes, the macho "power play" and I'm sure with a little imagination "shorthanded" could be worked in there as well.

Then you have your 2 on 1, 3 on 1, and the more Hawkish 5 on 3 or 5 on 4.


Entered at Mon Mar 15 23:28:21 CET 2010 from vance013.net.gov.bc.ca (142.22.16.58)

Posted by:

NB

Subject: The Hockey Horror Picture Show ?

For that to work for me it would have to be set well back in time when those Richards (Maurice and Henri) were still skating or when those other Richards (Manuel and Danko) were still singing.

BEG: It's currently "under discussion" and is certainly tempting. It's been almost 50 years since my oldest brother saw Levon in Toronto (as a Hawk, at the Blue Note as I recall). If I caught Levon at Massey without him it would pay him back for not taking me along back in the early sixties, for which I have never forgiven him. And likewise, to this day, he still clings to the lame excuse that I was only eight at the time and how was he supposed to know that I'd grow up to love The Band). Some people can just rationalize anything.

Stevon and David: Thanks for the additional info re: Janie McGarrigle.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Better on grass than on acid, I guess. Thoughts on that sadavid? Or Steve?


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: blue lines, the musical

Bill M: many years ago, my muso kid brother was involved in some sort of "Hockey: The Musical" production. Not sure if it was any kind of precursor to the present effort - or if it's just such a damn good idea you can't keep it down . . . .

I remember he said it wasn't as bad as it might sound, and that some of the lyrics were sort of clever in an awful way -- it was at least partly hockey-as-metaphor-for-romance, so the book made reference to such activities as clutching in the corner and sliiiding into the crease . . . .


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Hockey

Following these World Hockey championships, I'm somewhat alarmed about ice. Is Margaret Atwood playing what we call "ice hockey"? As you know, "hockey" is played on grass.


Entered at Mon Mar 15 20:05:46 CET 2010 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Subject: hockey, music and Atwood all in one tidy package!

The link's to an article about a hockey musical currently being filmed here. It starts out thusly: "Nelly Furtado, Olivia Newton-John and George Stroumboulopoulos are among the stars on ice in a funky new flick ..." Peter V will be pleased to learn that Margaret Atwood will be making a cameo appearance as well.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: the prodigal son

Whatever happened to Cousin Paul? I still have to smile when I think back to the Woodstock Playhouse (Summerblast 2003) and Prof Louie played "The Weight" ...and Paul nailed Rick's "Crazy Chester" verse. A good memory.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, the rest of that could go like this; they fought the British in the east( mostly), then each other to understand north from south and then went west to fight the Indians. Once they'd gotten their directional bearings figured out( always important before you leave home) they started on their world wide geography course.

Thanks, Mike C and David for the explanation.

The show he put on had enough different physical feats to meet the requirements for his own personal decathlon. There had to be at least 10 distinct athletic disciplines involved in his show.

There were precursors of break-dancing and moon-walking, skateboarding( sans skateboard), shadowboxing and many more moves that don't fit into any as of yet recognized disciplines.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hey Carmen! Just one more, ok? In this video of Steve Forbert in NYC at a John Lennon Tribute.....He's tapping his foot as he's playing.....just like at Toronto's Hugh's Room.....He's a real troubadour.....cute as a bunny rabbit too! I just loooove this guy! I guess you knew that already....

NB and NG! Take off the last day of work and come to Levon's show too! Bill M.......... :-D


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Ya don't have to convince me about Steve Forbert. He's like a warm breeze, a warm blanket, someone's who's got your back, the boy next door.....I absolutely adore him and his stories. He's a storyteller who can write his own songs...I've been listening to his music since he first came on the scene in the late seventies. At this time since he could also play harmonica...He had the same pressure put on him as Bruuuuce did re Dylan......Anyway, you have to dig his voice....I do, I do, I do.....I've got some great photos with the two of us as he was signing one of my CDS. He's an artist whose music is great to listen to at home and at a show. I can't say that about every artist......

"I Blinked Once" for Carmen. :-D

Sooooo Nomadic Mike....Are we on for Levon's show?


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Posted by:

Carmen

BEG - give I Blinked Once a listen


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Posted by:

carmen

Peter - we could have made it easy on ourselves - All those confusing countries in Europe - Germany!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just heard on BBC Radio: "War is just God's way of teaching Americans geography."

Apologies, but it is quite funny.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

There's everybody else and then there's Steve Forbert...He's foremost a songwriter. His music as well as Robbie's "Shine Your Light" helped me through a very difficult time. When I finally saw him at Hugh's Room I was amazed how he only performed with one other acoustic guitar player and the show was so entertaining and full of storytelling at it's best! I ran into Blind Willie McTell as well from this site who also really enjoyed himself!

There's Everybody Else (and then there's you) by Steve Forbert

VERSE
Theres everybody else and then theres you
When everybody fades youre so true blue
Im standing in a crowd but that wont do
Theres everybody else and then theres you.

VERSE
Theres everybody else and then theres you
Its everybodys world and timeframe too
Your moments to yourself, theyre burnt down few

Theres everybody else and then theres you. BRIDGE
Everybody thinks that their burden is the heaviest
(Oh) yes indeed they do
Everybody thinks that their troubles worse than all the rest
Them feels it knows whats true.

VERSE
Theres everybody else and then theres you
When everybodys cracked youve stuck like glue
When everybody breaks youre so brand new
Theres everybody else and then theres you

(INSTRUMENTAL BREAK)
VERSE
Yours is a face and a grace from the 1950s
Yours is a wine from a vine of a long-gone time
Yours is a blast from the past blowin right down with me
Yours is a case I can trace back a long loud line . . .

INSTRUMENTAL BREAK)
(REPEAT BRIDGE)
VERSE

Theres everybody else and then theres you
The skies have gotten dark but youll shine through
Im standing at the gate the last planes due
Theres everybody else and then theres you
Theres everybody else and then theres you
Theres everybody else and then theres you

Steve Forbert
Welk Music (ASCAP)/Rolling Tide Music (ASCAP)


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Hardest Working Man In Show Business

Yes, it was "Please, Please, Please (Don't Go)", which became James Brown's signature closing song. The cape routine originally began when Danny Ray, JB's MC / assistant, would bring out a towel at the end of the show as the song was performed since, at that point, Mr. Brown would be drenched in sweat from his energetic performance. As he began to leave the stage, he would throw off the towel and then return to the mic to resume singing. Eventually the towel was replaced with a robe and later with an elaborate cape.

I believe Richard Manuel used to perform "Please, Please, Please" as part of the Hawks set it the mid-60's.


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Posted by:

Mike C

Location: Capetown

Steve, I believe that the James Brown tune in question from the TAMI show is "Please Please Please".


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Singing For Nickles

NB, Jane McGarrigle shares organ duties with Kenny Pearson on the 1981 album, Entre Lajeunesse et La Sageusse ( The French Album). She also sings on one track and is listed as the executive producer. So, while not an official "Sister" she might be considered the "Third Sister".

When the girls were really young, starting at 4 or 5, their father who was the driving musical force in the family played piano and taught the girls songs from the 20's and 30's and 40's.

They'd stand on the piano bench next to him and sing as he played.

When they learned a complete song they got a nickel from a jar he kept on the piano.


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Posted by:

Carmen

Brien Sz - my wife said almost the same thing - she thinks all his songs sound the same. If you ever get a chance listen to the Geffen Years - might change your mind. Regards!


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Posted by:

rodrigo

Web: My link

nice website


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Busy, busy, Angie. My usual compliments.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon Helm to be honored by Fordham University radio station

Drummer will receive the WFUV "Sound & Vision Award"

By Sandy Tomcho Times Herald-Record
Posted: February 12, 2010

Multiple Grammy-winner Levon Helm will receive the WFUV Sound & Vision Award on May 5, the radio station announced.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and photos and original article from previous post re "Ain't In It For My Health".

By Ann Gibbons
Freeman staff

Life in focus: Helms film ready for spotlight
Published: Sunday, February 21, 2010


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

AIN'T IN IT FOR MY HEALTH

A Film About Levon Helm
THE DAILY FREEMAN SPOKE TO OUR DIRECTOR, JACOB...
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2010 AT 11:34AM


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Thanks for the link NB - I do enjoy those types of scenes and such.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Answers

Hey Bashfull, How are you doing? I've been absent for a while, so I may have missed the Sebastian answers from Robbie. Heck, I can't even remember what the questions were anymore. My guess is that Robbie has been busy working on his album.

Did Sebastian ever say that Robbie would be working on a book? I can't remember, but it seems to me that all of our questions could add up to good book research. Maybe that's where the answers will show up.....just a thought.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Web: My link

Subject: Brien Sz

I thought I'd bring this exceptional painting to your attention as I believe you have a soft spot for the Adirondack landscape, as do I. Could be wrong but I thought with the light and all it would be the kind of image that might appeal to your photographer's eye. Certainly the type of scene I'd like to park my easel in front of when I retire and move back east in a little over a year. NB


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: The McGarrigles

Janie McGarrigle-Dow did appear on Kate and Anna's self-titled debut album, released by Warner Bros. in 1975. As I've been listening to the LP lately, I would note that Janie contributed vocals and organ on "Heart Like A Wheel", with Kate on guitar and vocal and Anna on banjo and vocal.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Carmen - personally I think Steve Forbert was one of those lucky guys who wrote a catchy song at the right time. I bought one of his comprehensive Best Of's and aside from an occassional ok song, most of his material I thought was nondescript. To me he makes for a bar band guy who got his one hit. That's just my personal feeling/perception on the matter.


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Posted by:

Steve

Charlie, that's the first time a got a really good look at a James Brown performance. Unbelievable!

But I'm curious about the cape and if this was part of all his performances or it was just a prop used in that one song which as I said I couldn't understand any of the words to and still don't know what it was called. Can anyone explain the significance of the cape?


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Switch houses USA-Germany 2011

We want to visit the USA summer 2011, is there someone over there interested in a house switch for lets say some 4 weeks? Jan F?

Our house is situated in a small town, close to the Dutch border. It has a beautiful garden with glasshouse, a romantic comfort zone, BBQ and a view of a real middle age castle, although you have to stretch your neck a little outside the bedroom window, never the less (see also the link).

With the house comes a fast BMW 5 series, to explore the Autobahn (copy Levon 911 drive to France) . Drive legally 150mph and smile while overtaking a police car.

Berlin is about 5 hours, Paris 6-7 hours, Amsterdam 2 hours.

Doubts? we just got a new kitchen complete with dish washer and Miele CVA 5060 coffee automatic .

Interested? don't hesitate and email for more info: Norbert dot TheBand at t-online dot de


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Dner Kebab beats Sauerkraut

When it comes to classic German fast food, nothing tops a good Turkish Dner Kebab (over 1500 Dner shops in Berlin alone). Did it reach the USA already?

Our own Dner shop 889m (2min. by car), order time 10min. price 3,- Euros.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill(again)

Location: Minoa, NY (still)

Subject: Oh yeah....

While I'm here - did Sebastion ever follow through with those questions?


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Posted by:

NB

You're welcome, BEG.

Merci, Steve.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: GB catchup

Haven't been here inawhile, but looks like things are peaceful. Today, at least. Speaking of a)the Dead - I saw 2 of the Further shows last month, Ithaca and Utica NY(the latter is also where I saw my last Band show, sans Rick who was in Japan. I refer to that show as "the last gasp"). If you like the Dead, and are still into going out to live music, I'd recommend seeing them if they come around. They just announced some Summer shows....and b)Linda Ronstadt - used to love her, from her early days up until maybe the mid 80's when she hooked up with Aaron Neville and animated movie soundtracks at which time I lost track of her. I saw her twice - in 79 or 80 then again several years later, with the Neville Bros as openers. Like night and day(to me). One overlooked gem of hers is a late 70's cover of Elvis Costello's My Aim is True.


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Posted by:

Steve

Not sure, NB, why the third sister, Jane, wasn't a full time member but she did perform with them live sometimes and I think she's on the Mc Garrigle Hour album . She sang with them once when we saw them. I think she works in the TV biz.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Dylan with The Band at Isle Of Wight Festival 1969 full download. :-D

Thank you NB! I'll be on the floor for Levon and Co.


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Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Ray--You're right. I think the consensus was that those pics were from the Watkins Glen festival in '73.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)
Web: My link

Subject: good Band photo, bad caption

I'm probably not the first to mention this here, but the photo at the link above is most definitely NOT from the Monterey Pop festival of 1967...

And my goodness gracious, yes, the TAMI show, I saw good helpings of it last nite...proved conclusively that yes, if Elvis was King, James Brown is God...the Stones gave it all they had, but was that ridiculous to go on after JB or What????


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: The Missing McGarrigle ?

Stevon Farm, since you're the resident Special K-bec expert (and equally astute in perceiving the presence of absence), didn't Kate and Anna grow up singing with a third sibling sister, Jane as I recall ? Was she not good enough to pursue the musical career path alongside her sisters ? Or did she perhaps instead decide to go into a safer or more spiritual line of work, like say furniture liquidation? As per always, anything you tell me here at the GB will be in the strictest of confidence. NB

PS. Speaking of things spiritual, I've never concerned myself with the presence of absence nearly as much as with the absence of presents. Oh, and I'll be driving through K-bec this summer en route to cosmopolitan Pugwash, Nova Scotia, so you'd better canard !


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: The T.A.M.I. Show

Steve: I saw the PBS airing of part of the T.A.M.I. show last week, with Dean Torrence in the PBS studios doing the commentary during breaks (I thought he added a lot). I pre-ordered the DVD from Amazon as soon as I found out about my new job, so I look forward to seeing the whole thing. That James Brown footage was amazing. I see why the Stones didn't want to follow him (though they were fun to watch, too). I didn't see the Chuck Berry part, but look forward to seeing it on the DVD. The finale was pretty wild, and the whole thing reminded me of one of my favorite music movies, "That Thing You Do," in which Tom Hanks and his ensemble recapture the innocent days of rock'n'roll.


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Posted by:

Steve

IIkka, You Don't Know Me, sounds like a song the Band did.

Anyone else see the T.A.M.I. concert on PBS recently? Dean, of, Jan and Dean, said no one wanted to follow James Brown and The Flames who put on a show that was both remarkable and bizarre at the same time.

What song was he doing( couldn't make out any of the words) where he keeps falling to the floor and then is cover with a cape but keeps rejecting the cape and returning to finish the song?

There was also a great Chuck Berry performance that ended with him starting Maybelline but only doing a verse and then the camera swings to the right side of the stage where Gerry And The Pacemakers take up the song.

man you gotta have confidence to do one of Chuck's songs with him right there on stage, but they did a passable job.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: Spelling correctly the name of fellow gber.

Who is this SSTTeeVVey guy anyway? I don't know him.


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Posted by:

rich

Location: wales

Subject: mickey jones r.i.p.

very sad news here in wales.mickey jones, guitarist and singer with the legendery welsh rock group 'man' passed away this week after a long illness.often referred to as the welsh grateful dead,they made some fantastic records in the 70's and were superb live. mickey had a great singing voice and was an excellent musician,widely respected by his peers,including none other than frank zappa who described mickey as one of the best guitarists he'd ever seen.i met him a couple of times,and he and his colleagues in 'man' were huge fans of 'the band'. he was one of the nicest blokes you could ever wish to meet.r.i.p brother.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: The Coast

Subject: Linda

Thanks David. Just what I needed. A session with Linda. My crush on her extended long past my teenage years.

I had to dig through my old vinyl but found 'Heart Like A Wheel' and 'Simple Dreams'. Love her covers of 'Willin' and 'Carmelita', not to mention 'Tumblin Dice' and 'Old Paint'. You know, somewhere I have a 'Trio' cassette. Where oh where.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Correction

On my last post I meant Helm and Hiatt AT Wolf Trap, of course, referring to the upcoming summer concert by those two legends at the nation's only National Park for the Performing Arts.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Viva Doc Pomus

I've got a copy of the 45 single of Elvis' original version of the Pomus/Shuman classic. Something always sounded weird about it to me, as if the tape was sped up slightly when it was mastered. Doc Pomus attended The Band's Rock of Ages concert with his friend Dr. John, with whom he collaborated with after he and Mort Shuman parted ways. Years earlier, Mr. Pomus had crossed paths with The Band when they were playing with Ronnie Hawkins, as they frequented the same hotel, favored by musicians near the Brill Building.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Museums

David: I like your variation on that line from "Visions of Johanna." Very clever.

Speaking of museums, I was in New York this week for my first visit to the headquarters of the company that just hired me, and noticed that near their Soho building was the "annex" for the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame and Museum. Unfortunately, the place closed in January. That didn't last long.

Tix for Helm and Hiatt and Wolf Trap go on sale tomorrow. I wonder if JTF is going...


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Posted by:

Jeneal

Location: the space between you and me.

the band makes me happy


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Shawn Colvin

I'm a Colvin fan too


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Posted by:

Shawn Colvin

Subject: Viva Las Vegas

Absolutely true David.

And a real bummer. I managed to get both the Doc pomus tribute which I loaned to someone years ago but I can't remember who to. Thankfully I'd also got the Colvin single CD version.

The Colvin version is just one of those rare moments when song and artist simply fuse together to create a magical chemistry. That divine you could listen to it a million times and still crave another listen. What was always a fantastic song by Pomus and Shuman finally found its perfect expression. Which is not to diss the King... but it's just the way it is.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Shawn Colvin

Please excuse my oversight, but I would point out that, although Ms. Colvin's cover of "Viva Las Vegas" is used in the film, unfortunately it was not included on the CD soundtrack version, as was the case with a couple of Creedence songs. The Band connection is that Ms. Colvin's version also appears on the earlier Doc Pomus CD tribute "Till The Night Is Gone", which also includes The Band's take on "Young Blood" (featuring a rare vocal contribution from Garth).

Also, Ms. Colvin also covered "Twilight" on her excellent "Cover Girl" album, which was co-produced by Steuart Smith, whom I mentioned earlier this week in connection with his recent work the Eagles.


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Posted by:

Shawn Colvin admirer

Subject: Shawn Colvin

David P. You posted In addition to the Gipsy Kings, the film's soundtrack, co-produced by T-Bone Burnett, features some other gems such as Dylan's "The Man In Me", Elvis Costello's "My Mood Swings", "Her Eyes Are A Blue Million Miles" by Captain Beefheart, "Ataypura" by Yma Sumac, Nina Simone's "I Got It Bad And That Ain't Good", Kenny Rodgers & the First Edition (featuring Mickey Jones) "Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In)" and Townes Van Zandt's cover of the Rolling Stones' "Dead Flowers

True it all amounts to an amazing soundtrack selection one of the finest ever but David how could you miss out the credits closer namely Shawn Colvin's delicious Viva las Vegas. Sublime.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Visions of the Dead's artifacts

Inside the museums, the Grateful Dead goes up on trial
Voices echo this is what Terrapin Station must be like after a while

(:-)


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Grateful Dead

The Dead go mainline. Article from the NY Times.


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Posted by:

Bill M

NB: While you raise a good point, that the "kaukonen" would be a good name for an Ikea product - maybe a small soft pillow for the tired member? - even mentioning the chain is a bit like waving a red flag around here (remeniscent of "Don't mention the war" in the Germans episode of "Fawlty Towers"). First you'll get our elegant webmaster posting some old saw about the Swedes, and then you'll get Ilkka pointing out the quality of Jorma's Finnish.


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Posted by:

David P

Yes -- "Still Crazy After All THESE Years" indeed.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: McGarrigles / Dry Your Eyes

Speaking of the McGarrigles -- I recently revisited Linda Ronstadt's excellent "Heart Like A Wheel" album, via the new Audio Fidelity gold-CD reissue. This audiophile version was sourced from the original analog master, rather than from the futzed & equalized production copy used for previous versions. The results are breathtaking, as Ms. Rondstadt's vocals never sounded better.

Band connection: Ms. Ronstadt's cover of "Dark End Of The Street" features former Atlantan Dennis St. John on drums. He was a member of Neil Diamond's band for many years and appeared with him at The Last Waltz.

Listening to Ms. Ronstadt's version of Anna McGarrigle's "Heart Like A Wheel", still after all these years, leaves one reaching for a tissue to dry the eyes. The album itself, produced by Peter Asher, was nominated for the Grammy Album of the Year, but lost to Paul Simon's "Still Crazy After All The Years", which was produced by Phil Ramone.


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Posted by:

NB

Not just a fan of his closets Bill, but also everything else Kaukonen designs for Ikea. NB.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

I just phoned a friend to ask how a recent local blues show hosted / organised for the CBC by Colin Linden, had gone. My big interest was how veteran singer Curley Bridges had gone over (exceptionally well -standing ovation), but what was nicest to hear was that Colin had hired Ken Pearson (from Full Tilt Boogie, Jesse Winchester and the McGarrigles) to fill that keyboardist spot that Richard Bell would have filled in the past. Will be interesting to see if he becomes a regular part of the BARK ensemble.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Tuna Say Quah?

NB: Are you a closet Jorma Kaukonen fan or something?


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: San Patricio

With St. Patrick's day approaching, it's a good time to check out The Chieftan's new album "San Patricio", featuring the world music master Ry Cooder. As Peter previously mentioned, Mr. Cooder's original composition, "The Sands of Mexico", is the stand out track, but the rest of the CD contains many other fine collaborations.

Upon first listening I also enjoyed Linda Ronstadt's arrangement of "A La Orilla de Un Palmar", Moya Brennan's "Lullaby For The Dead", Ry Cooder & Van Dyke Park's instrumental "Cancion Mixteca" intro, and Lila Downs' two contributions. The album was beautifully recorded and the mastering (by Bernie Grundman) is superb.

In addition to expanding musical vistas, the story behind the album, of Irish soldiers fighting on Mexico's side against American expansion, will hopefully encourage listeners to delve deeper, beyond their established historical concepts.

As Pat B could no doubt expand upon, the Mexican-American War was the training ground for most of the officers who would later lead troops in the American Civil War. Many of those officers who fought side by side against Mexico, would fight against each other in the upcoming conflict. Irish soldiers would also play a role in that war, which further divided their new homeland.


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Posted by:

NB

Steve: I DON'T KNOW WHAT "je ne sais quoi" means, but I thank you for the rest of your convoluted compliment. NB.


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Posted by:

carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Steve Forbert

I put Steve Forbert back into my rotation. Why do you think this guy never made it to the big time? He has got some great songs.


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Posted by:

Sally

Web: My link

Subject: Eppard Family Tree

Hey guy's... if you like Jimmy,you'll love his son Joey, great talent runs in the family, for sure!!


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Posted by:

Steve

No, Bill, I don't read the Hill Times. I only know one of the reporters, Katie O'Malley, who writes for it. She does a political report on the local CBC radio station once a week.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Epp

Jeff- Deep down, I think we're both Jimmy Eppard fans. A number of years ago he (reluctantly) played a request from our table: "Gimme Some Lovin." After the show he told me the only reservation he had about performing the old Spencer Davis Trio staple...was that he didn't know the words. Great improv that night.

JOAN (and I think somebody else...apologies....): the good thing about giving aid to people from Africa is that they are so poor over there that you can make a big difference with a small amount of money. I gave some kid (who my daughter spoke highly of) a "free ride" (paid his tuition) in school this year for $70. $30 a month is what most working class people make. I don't know what charities cover Africa, but I think it's money well spent once it gets there.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: If Your Memory Serves You Well

Back across the great divide, around the time of Monterey, different music began to reach its zenith in a basement.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Speaking of Rambles, I appreciate your own absent-minded ones. Do you ever see the "Hill Times"? I thought an article about Senate reform in the March 8 issue was about as good a marriage of Canuckistani politics and retro rock and roll that you're going to find outside these sacred precincts. Here's how the author described himself in the footnote at the end: "On a personal note, Mr Gordon believes western civilization peaked in the summer of 1967 when Jimi Hendrix played 'Wild Thing' at the Monterey Pop Festival."


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Posted by:

Steve

NB, I knew I was in your absence, I could feel it. Funny how you can sometimes feel the presence of absence especially when that, je ne sais quoi, but lets call it greatness,is in abundant absence in your presence, you just can't help but notice something ain't all there and it's you.

And that's all I have to say about that.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Norm, Get Your Passport In Order

Sure Oilberta's a foreign country to us BCers Norm, but aren't you the same Worst Poster who just the other day was lamenting never having seen The Band live ? And isn't this about as close as you're ever gonna get ? And doesn't Levon coming all this way out west cut down on you havin' ta travel all the way to Woodstock for a Ramble by about 80%? Now if you're afeard of all those Albertan cowboy junkies, just pack your gun with you and you'll fit right in.

Too bad Lee and company didn't book into the excellent Salmon Arm Blues and Roots Music Festival the following weekend out here in beautiful Olympic debt-laden B.C. I see Levon's longstanding opening Ramble act, Alexis P. Suter, will be playing there. Maybe he could crash her set or something. (Mind you, he's quite the runt and she's pretty hefty and could probably take him out with just one punch). NB.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Lars, I have to disaggree in a friendly fashion.. Jimmy Eppard is one great guitar player. Jimmy is different all the time live, and what you get out of him in a bar show is essentially how he feels that night. But in crunch time, be it a soem way big show or a recordng session, you can count on Jimmy to feel you one thousand percent. The man's knowledge of styles and songs is encyclopedic, and his feel is right there, when you need it to be. Drop the stakes, he might fuck around a little or a lot.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Alberta!?????

What in hell would I go to Alberta for?? that's a gawd damn foreign country. If Leevon can't come to Powell River he ain't gettin' my coin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or my autograph.

Sandy! Don't listen to Bill Munson.....he's one of those red neck city fellers from Trana.......


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Sandy/ Lars

Sandy, glad to have you here. I second Biil M, don't be a stranger.

Lars, I think you are doing a very good thing. Without this help, that young man would never get a chance to move up and "help himself". Its hard to concentrate when you are starving. Perhaps you could post the info here so that others who would like to help could.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Sandy: It's good that you came out of the shadows and posted. More to come, I trust. You toss around words like "august" and "erudite" but we have nothing against bricklayers here.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Lars, you are not giving him a HAND out you are giving him a HAND up. I'm so glad. Please let me know (via e-mail or Facebook) if there is anyone else who needs a hand up. I work/live with a bunch of "pinko liberals" 8-) who would love to help. Only thing is I'll be leaving this Sat for New Orleans to work down there. Hope to do some construction rather than all the demolition we did last time we were there.

Ilkka - in 1944-45, my Dad was supposedly training in the US Army for the land invasion of Japan, which, of course never happened. So, if that had happened, I'm with you ... I might not have been here either!

J.F.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: A Further Additional Add-On

FYI: In going to Ticketmaster just now, I see that it's Levon with John Hiatt at Massey Hall in June. NB


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: just beyond Hope, (BC)
Web: My link

Subject: Levon's (Canadian) Tour Dates

Attention Bill, BEG, Kevin, etc. The Levon Helm Band at Massey Hall in Toronto on June 29 th.

Attention Norm and Bonk. The Levon Helm Band has gigs in Alberta on August 5th and 6th.

(I trust that in my absence Steve has more than filled the comedic void with his inadvertent humour). NB


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Asleep in the Deep

Concerning the oil pipeline Illkka is talking about. There was a piece in the news a couple days ago about the many ship wrecks they have found, some of them as old as 800 years they figure. Many too deep to raise, but as the salt water up there doesn't contain the parasites that destroy wood ships some are perfectly intact. Would really be something to see.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: the area

Subject: RetroRockets

I used to drive all the way over to the Georgetown Saloon (below Danbury, CT) to catch Jimmy Eppard and the RetroRockets. Sometimes Jimmy and Mike Dunn would sit with me during their break. I used to ask Jimmy how he could keep grinding out that "Satchmo" sound of his: didn't it ever make him go hoarse? Jimmy responded that he could go all night.

Jimm had a natural singing voice that he used during country/ western songs. I used to prefer that. But he is the artist and it's his right to deliver the music anyway he sees fit. He always was a really good guitar player.

On an entirely different subject, the rains have arrived in Africa and my daughter tells me that this is the hottest time of year. I offered to help one of her friends who is worried about his survival, now that the growing season is behind them. Oddly enough, everybody around me thinks that it's wrong to have this 18 year old boy depend on me for his food. So, following that logic, I guess it's a good thing to let him starve. I don't understand that thought process. I'm going to sponser him anyway until someone explains to me how helping him is a bad thing.


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Posted by:

Steve

Hey LLKKA, your father wasn't part of the Finnish biathlon team that stopped the Russian Bears trying to invade your country in WW2?


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: Good news and bad news about Gulf of Finland (Steve!)

Steve, there will be a gas pipeline under the sea from Russia to Germany. You are not supposed to joke about Gulf of Finland! - You see, my father was born on the coast of this Gulf, so did I. As a Marin Officer in submarines he was on the dead list of Russians in case Finland would have been taken by Russian invasion army. Fortunately, it never happened. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to post here, would I.

All you good people posting here, Jews, Christians, Communists should be aware of this. - If you don't have anything better to do you can surf the net and you'll find Russian's address book to Finnish Marine Officers after WW2. My dad's address was there in the late 40s after the WW2.

These were the good news. The bad news for the future are that the US imperialism had not invented the bloody Internet in the 40s... but now!


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Posted by:

Joe

Location: Boston

Subject: Muttering in Mad Waltz

Anybody know who it is that's muttering during the recording of Mad Waltz on the 4th disc of The Last Waltz? I'm just curious.


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, you'll have to be more specific, since there's The Gulf of Campeche in The Gulf Of Mexico.

Could be the Gulf between David and I.

Hey, Man Of All Places Northern, is it true that there's a good chance the Gulf Of Finland may finally become ice free during summers thanks to global warming?


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Gulf of Finland.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

My guess - Gulf of Mexico


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Posted by:

Steve

Sandy, Gulf Of St. Lawrence? Gulf of Tonkin? Persian Gulf? Gulf Stream?


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: King Harvest//Jimmy Eppards Retro Rockets

Retro Rockets: Jimmy Eppard, Jerry Marotta, Pete Levin, Charlie Knicely. Compilation of songs from this gig. Go in about 4 minutes catcha piece of King Harvest BTW they are playing there at Keegan Ales in Kingston. I'm not sure if it's Sunday or Saturday. Great hang.


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Posted by:

Sandy

As a long time lurker working in the Gulf area, I have finally cast aside my trepidation in commenting on musical matters in such august company. I noticed last week that the erudite Mr. Powell had mentioned the song A ChokinKind. I do not wish you to think of me as the sort of person who listens to such things, but there is an obscure version of the song performed by Ms. Linda Lovelace, backed by Mr. Gene Simmons from the popular 70s rock band, KISS.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Abby, please e-mail me . . . if you don't have my e-mail any longer, get it from Jeff, and if he doesn't have it, well then forget it. Oh, or I could just call you one day really early in the morning!

J.F.


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: I'm Not sayin

Link is to Nico's version of a Lightfoot tune.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Stabby- check your email


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: You may be Right!

I might be crazy, but it just might be a lunatic you're lookin' for.

Turn out the light, don't try to save me,

You may be wrong for all I know, but you may be right.

Great link David not suprising with Joe Walsh.

His best statement that I remember on stage, (I forget what concert or where). From all the shots taken at the Eagles and their crazyness. Joe was gonna sing that song...aw shit, I forget the name........any way he says, "I only got drunk ONCE........for 20 years.


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Posted by:

dlw919

Web: My link

Subject: Guitarists

Urban legend (?) featuring Robbie, among others... /n And how do you get a guitarist to turn his amp down? PUt some music in front of him.../n Glad you enoyd it, Bill!


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Mediterranean Homesick Blues

Poor Big Joe Biden, BB's got him singin the blues.


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Posted by:

Bill M

dlew: Thanks for the link, though I must say I'm surprised at all the flushing. So's not to miss a second of the sacred sport, most of us just use the empties that litter the floor around the couch. Or chip bags for the teetotallers.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Peter, Dlew

I'll go and see the film. Coincidentally, Norman Watt-Roy is the bass player for Wilko Johnson - great three piece, but I have never seen them live.

Another film getting good reviews is Oil City Confidential. Anybody see it?


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Eagle connection

When Levon & Rick toured with Ringo's All-Starr Band in 1989 the group of course also included Joe Walsh. "Life In The Fast Lane" and "Rocky Mountain Way" were among the songs they performed. The latter song featured Mr. Walsh's use of the guitar talk box and on tour he used one developed by Bob Heil, which improved upon earlier designs of the effect. Walsh was one of the first to use Heil's device. Later, after his girlfriend gave him one as a Christmas present, Peter Frampton really expanded its popularity, even though he took it to new levels of gimmickry.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Andy Serkis

I assumed the stage sequences were live and the music over possibly original BUT I don't know. Serkis was so convincing and there were ad libs and asides that it's either live or the best lipsynch ever done. It really is seamless. If you like the music, you'll like what they've done. I'm sure it's live, because there are bits where they do earlier versions working out the songs. Neither the IMDB nor the official site has any musician credits beyond "original music Chaz Jankel" and in the film he is a self-effacing quietly pleasant character (he presumably had a say in how they played him!) There's been no OST as far as I know.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Some of you will have seen this...

But the rate of flushing in Canada during the hockey grand final...


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: i wants my precious

andy serkis played gollum in lord of the rings - i might have to see the dury show. The blockheads are in the league of the stax band, funk bros, tcbs, the heartbreakers or the hawks... Was the music originals or copies?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: So THERE!!

Well now there see! Youz low down no good polecats.......out east there. You deeserve all that snow and everything.....although.....I don't know why.

I got to build a green house this year.....if I get time. 12x8 will do me......but then again.....I don't have...A GAWD DAMN BIG POT PLANTATION!

But.....out here day before yesterday I was painting on my tug. Yesterday there was snow flurries. Today it's nice with a bitter Nor'west wind, (that's gone down now). Tonight it's supposed to snow, and tomorrow it's supposed to be nice again.

That's our weather report........and now.......back to the music. Here's todays top ten count down........


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Posted by:

LG

Hi Brother. Whats up?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll

Saw the Ian Dury biopic tonight. Andy Serkis is so brilliant in the title role (acting, swearing AND singing) that within two minutes he IS Ian Dury. What interested me was in a small suburban theatre, a one night showing on a cold Monday and it was virtually full say 400 people or more.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Wilko Johnson

Talking about great guitarists recently. Bought 'The Best of Wilko Johnson' a couple of weeks ago. I always think he's a really good guitarist. You get the feeling there are two guitarists playing. Is he a really good guitarist? Is he known across the pond?

When you play in a trio, there's no hiding place. Enjoying Cream at the weekend.

Which brings me to Robbie. Robbie is always distinctive when playing. Enjoyed Planet Waves and Before the Flood also at the Weekend.

Also enjoyed Manassas.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Big Concerts

Got my tickets for Paul McCartney at Hampden (Scottish national stadium) in June.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Saw an Eagles sticker on a Kia at Wal-Mart

Some of Don Henley's best solo recordings were written with collaborators from outside the Eagles' nest. Perhaps, as a drummer with a distinctive singing voice, he needs help with the music to go with his lyric concepts. "Dirty Laundry" was written with guitarist Danny Kortchmar, "Boys of Summer" with guitarist Mike Campbell (from Tom Petty's Heartbreakers) and "The End of the Innocence" with Bruce Hornsby.


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Posted by:

Steve

Norm, I was thinking of you and your leafing raspberries as I was shoveling almost 2 feet of snow off the place in the garden where I'm going to put up my 20 by 16 foot greenhouse, as soon as I figure out how to get it out of the basement.

The ground is thawed( never even froze)under the snow so I'm hoping to get it rolling in a week or two.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Yma Sumac

A favorite crossword puzzle answer.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Fat Cats

I am in total agreement with you Kevin. I think before Eagles even Glenn Frey showed a desire for fame and fortune at any cost. His and Don Henley's ambitions have always been distasteful. I think that holds true with many bands. More so with Eagles because they got so high up the ladder.

There is a cool video I saw way back there some where. Joe Walsh, who has a pretty great sense of humour, and does things like a lot of phyco guitar players. They were setting up some where some time, and while he was sound checking and warming up started to play that opening riff, which became "Life in the Fastlane". In truth a lot of songs were formed that way. Guitar players who keep doodling on a riff that comes out of their head until it becomes something.

Don Felder has always seemed to be a little more laid back and sensible, claims the way he wrote some of his work, like the music that became "Hotel California". He was sitting on the beach with an acoustic guitar and that music came to him, and he kept working on it, (guitar exercises). He went in his house where he had an old reel to reel, and put it all down so he wouldn't forget it. Don Henley really liked it, and so they put the lyrics to it. The erieness of coming down the free way to LA and seeing that big glow in the sky as you approach the place. I don't know how many people have ever experienced that on the water. I suppose around those big puddles back there you must. Coming down the Gulf of Georgia, particularly when there is a bit of fog, and the huge glow in the sky of Vancouver can look pretty spooky some times.

Any way, there is not a lot of live preformances that have really blown me away. The big ticket shows very often you get let down. My brother and I talked about that, but we decided to give this concert a try, (much as we don't feel great about adding to their coin) so I hope it's a good show.

Re: writing music, one last thought that amuses me. My brother always takes an acoustic guitar on his tug with him. He is now prone to also pack a little recorder. So many times he has had a good lick or a good lyric and forgotten it. He nearly goes mental trying to get it back. It's pretty funny.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Eagles

I can't stand what the Eagles became ( every fat middle aged couple's favourite band so reeling in the funds that you could smell the corporate party one night payouts off them from 1000 miles away ) and never did buy that fake cowboy thing early on but............I always liked "One of these Nights"....always turn up "Life in the Fast Lane"........and have never ever tired of "Hotel California" which I still consider a great song..........


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I've already pre-ordered Levon's new album, Levon Helm, Sings The Songs Of Robbie "Royal" Robertson. It wasn't the song list, including TNTDODD, that got me to cough up the cash for a pre-order but it was the sales pitch.

It says that Levon was helping raise money for Robbie's, " The Road Is A Gawd Damn Impossible Way of Life", personal retirement fund.

Levon originally thought of calling the album, This Mike's Still On", but in this attempt at reconciliation with J3Rs he didn't want to bring up anything from their past that might kick start the feud he's trying to put behind them.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Billie Bad Ass

Gawd Damn city slicker punk....so he don't like Eagles, he don't like Porter & Dolly........ooouuuu-:)))


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: another conspiracy?

Good eye, David P. Sumac's name turned round is either Camus or Scam us, depending on how you feel about apostrophes


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Amy Camus?

Bill M: The amazing Ms. Sumac covered "I Wonder" (from Sleeping Beauty) on Hal Wilner's "Stay Awake: Various Interpretations of Music From Vintage Disney Films". The album also included Garth's unique take on "Feed The Birds" (from Mary Poppins).

Yma Sumac's exotic lounge music LPs are favorites among audiophiles, as her beautiful voice, matched with lavish arrangements, were carefully recorded.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Dood P: Aside from "Take It Easy" and the guitar solo in "Hotel California", I tend to Mr Lebowski's view of the Eagles. The horrible rest of HC, the horrible "New Kid In Town", the horrible castrati choir bg vocals on "Witchy Woman" and others. I will admit to a display of sympathy when a small flood - when the neighbour's aquarium broke - took out the other half's greatest hits album, but it was really just an act.

But Yma Sumac! I've seen "Big Lebowski" twice, but both times were before I picked up a couple of her 10-inch LPs - because I liked the covers - so I wasn't aware until now that she's on the soundtrack. She's brilliant. Oddly enough, a member of Frank Motley and the Motley Crew (who brought jump blues and rock and roll to Toronto in '55) was saying just last week that their lead singer in the '60s, Jackie Shane, was a big fan and spent a lot of time dissecting her sounds.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Welcome to the Hotel California, Dude

In honor of Jeff Bridges, a special Oscar edition post:

The Gipsy Kings recorded an excellent flamenco version of "Hotel California" in 1988, complete with lyrics translated into Spanish. That version was later included in the great soundtrack of the Coen brothers' cult classic film "The Big Lebowski". I've always wondered if the version the Eagles later performed on the Hell Freezes Over tour was inspired by the Gipsy Kings.

There's a scene in "The Big Lebowski" where The Dude, Jeff Bridges, is riding in a cab and the Eagles' "Peaceful Easy Feeling" comes on the radio. The Dude gets into an argument with the cab driver when he asks him to change the station, exclaiming "I hate the f*****g Eagles, Man!"

In addition to the Gipsy Kings, the film's soundtrack, co-produced by T-Bone Burnett, features some other gems such as Dylan's "The Man In Me", Elvis Costello's "My Mood Swings", "Her Eyes Are A Blue Million Miles" by Captain Beefheart, "Ataypura" by Yma Sumac, Nina Simone's "I Got It Bad And That Ain't Good", Kenny Rodgers & the First Edition (featuring Mickey Jones) "Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In)" and Townes Van Zandt's cover of the Rolling Stones' "Dead Flowers".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: San Patricio

Got the Chieftains / Ry Cooder CD this morning. Reviews are correct, The Sands of Mexico by Ry Cooder is the stand out track if you want to sample the album.

Don Felder will get back round to the Eagles as soon as he finishes work with Elvis on the "75 Today Sessions" which is the point where Elvis comes down from the mountain and reveals himself to the world.The Bob Dylan- Kylie Minogue collaborations are the stand out tracks, I hear. Though Levon Helm's "Songwriter: A Tribute to Robbie" benefits from the Johnny Rotten-Celine Dion co-production.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: what difference does it make?

Subject: Modern Problems

Norm...I know exactly what you mean. I used to come in here to watch the fur fly...now even people who don't like each other are being polite.....I've spent the last 3 weeks sitting in a tree...had 16" of snow on me for 3 1/2 days...sometimes I go in to eat some fruit...although I don't know how eating will make any difference.

Looking forward to the nice, crisp days of October.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hello???

Awww Joan; I was just trying to get some one's goat. Used to be, you made a mistake here, you'd be swarmed by the pack. I made as many as I could.......nothin'.

I spelt Joe Walsh's name wrong first of all. The videos I was talking about were from the '94 Hell Freezes over tour mostly. I figure there is about as much chance as Don Felder playing with the Eagles again as all 5 members of the band getting back together. But it would have been great.

As the story goes, the only 3 members of Eagles who still owned shares in Eagles Corporation were Frey, Henley, and Felder. When Don Felder had the good sense to ask where the money was all going, Frey and Henley told their manager to fire him1 Well you can fire an employee. Pretty hard to fire a share holder, if you want to get rid of 'em you got to buy 'em out, which is apparently what happened at who knows how much. So I don't think that was too easy for them to swallow.

There has been so many "rumours" here of the Band getting back together, I figured this one had about as much chance.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: The Eagles

I'm amazed that Don Felder is back with the Eagles. I read his Autobiography and it was pretty bitter. I would love to have seen that "make up" session.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Eagles

You are right David, but Felder has come back for these tours. You may not have watched on Youtube the vids of their most resent tour. Felder & Welsh play acoustic guitars on Hotel California.

There are also videos I've watched, interviews with Don Felder alone, explaining how he came to write some of the music. Also interviews together showing how they work at their writing, harmonies etc, "The circle of fear". A comment that Henley makes. "I can't sound the way I do without these guys."


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Ian Tyson and Casey Tibbs

Liked the Ian Tyson video and noticed he had done a song about Casey Tibbs. Met the latter, must have been just before he hung up his spurs. Tried to get to the lyrics and ran into a an attempt to send a bot to my computer.

Thought maybe one of the Very astute posters could help. Mr. Tyson also did one after Casey died, "Casey's Gone".


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Like an Eagle stirs the nest...

Unfortunately, Don Felder was forced out of the Eagles several years ago. Following the bitter split, the multi-talented Steuart Smith began working with the band as a hired fret hand.


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Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

Pete Seeger and Johnny Cash on Johnny's show in 1970. Very Cool.....


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Livin it up!

There is just so much music!...........but, as we are going to see Eagles in a few weeks, I've been spending a lot of time with this youtube, to convince myself that it is going to be worthwhile.

To be able to watch Don Felder up close do the work he does on the music he wrote for Hotel California, with Joe Welsh, (if they are doing this unplugged like they are supposed to) is a treat like you don't get very often.

Don Felder shows his metal as a guitarist with this work as does Joe Welsh. The unplugged show of that song, is pretty unequalled to me. It would be like seeing the whole BAND doing their stuff on Ophelia or something like that at this time.

It don't matter to me nohow, who does or doesn't like the Eagles, but when you watch them play some of those classics like they do, it's not hard to figure why they stayed on top so long. The only sad thing it puts in my mind, is how much I would like to see the BAND, at this age mellow and matchured being able to do the same thing at this time of their lives. The Eagles now........to me are the best they ever have been.

I would so much now like to hear the voices of Rick Danko, and Richard Manuel.......so......dream on.


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Posted by:

abby

Location: KY

Subject: BARK and Whitey Johnson at 3rd & L????

Wow! Putemup! I am THERE! After a cruise that was just heavenly ( John Hiatt, Steve Earle, Buddy Miller (oh, do I adore Buddy Miller!!!) Robert Earl Keen etc etc) I thought it'd be a good long time before I'd get excited about another concert. Then I just happen to get on and read PEU's announcement about Blackie in Nashville! And Whitey will be there too! God likes me - that's all there is to it. Oh, and Luke Doucet "The Day Rick Danko died" was on the cruise as well. He mentioned the best thing about being Canadian was to lay claim to the Band. Talked a little about the song - Rick being his favorite of the group. -- the musicians roamed freely around the boat and I got to rag on Steve Earle - mr. leftwinger-close-to-marxist - for wearing, of all things - a YANKEE tshirt! That just ain't right!


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: The Chokin Kind

Speaking of 'The Chokin' Kind', link is to a version by a couple of GB favourites, Delbert McClinton and Roy Buchanan.

For another great video link check out the What's New page on this site and Karla Bonoff's take on 'The River Is Wide' featuring our Garth.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Joe Simon and Scotty Moore

After touring with Elvis, the legendary guitarist Scotty Moore established his own studio in Nashville. Among the many artists he recorded and engineered was Joe Simon. Those sessions, produced by John Richbourg, featured a stellar group of musicians that included Charlie McCoy, Tim Drummond, Kenny Buttrey, Mac Gayden, Bob Wilson and Bergen White. Among the songs that Mr. Moore engineered was Mr. Simon's version of "Lay Down Beside Me" and Simon's hit cover version of "The Chokin' Kind", written by Nashville's premiere tunesmith Harlan Howard.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Cars: The Mini

For those who like cars (special Mini fans like me), take a look at this little Mini beating up a Porsche GT3 ( Nrburgring) in the YouTube vid (link). See you don't always have to be the biggest to win, that's in the Bible and that's Bandish.

Ps 1; listen to the sound of those GP Works Minis, ah.

ps 2; I used to have a lot of fire red hair on top of my head ones, glad I lost it over the years.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Farther on DOWN the road

Damn David, now you give me nightmares last night. Remembering all the music from Joe Simon. I think I got him in some doowop here some where.

The Golden Tones, and "Drownin' in the sea of love". Man that guy was the next thing to Sam Cooke.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Steve, absolutely. In fact I recall an old Gabites (must still linger on here somewhere) , where The Band was very open and doubtful about the new red album. One day later they browned their second album, just in time.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Tom Paxton

Porter and Dolly did a bouncy uptempo version of Tom Paxton's "The Last Thing On My Mind". Danko/Fjeld/Andersen covered the song on their self-titled album and also included a cover of another great Paxton song, "Bottle of Wine", on "Ridin' On The Blinds". In his liner notes for D/F/A Robert Palmer described the former song as "an unjustly neglected masterwork by Andersen's original folk music mentor Tom Paxton." The original version of the song appeared on Mr. Paxton's landmark Elektra album "Ramblin' Boy", which also features another folk standard, "I Can't Help But Wonder Where I'm Bound".


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Posted by:

Steve

Norbert, the other IMPORTANT problem with red coloured cars is that the cops stop and ticket red cars more than cars of any other colour.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, thank you for further making the case to have this, Simon, fellow GITMOTIZED. I think he knows more than he's saying. Now that he's been completely discredited where does this leave the songwriting credit debate? Maybe we should have the RCMP take him up to Whistler and have, Ross Roll Me A Doobie, snowboard him.

Well, we're into another month, maybe this'll be the one Sebastian reappears with the answers.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Red ear songs & the general global red warning

Not only since Jerry Lewis' "Great Balls of Fire' were aware of songs with bolt sex messages within. There was an article I last read about the subject and I think there is something to it. A few examples:

Rag Mama Rag [Brian Ferry]

Love is the Drug [The Band]

Happy Ending [Joe Jackson]

Dont Know Why I didnt come [Norah Jones]

The Day Before You Came [Abba]

Ill Be Over You [Toto]

(Something Inside ) So Strong [Labi Siffre]

I Am a Rock [Simon & Garfunkel]

Down Town [Petula Clarck]

Alternative ones :

The Alternative Way [Anita Meyer, great voice b.t.w.]

World of Hurt [Ilse de Lange]

Ring of Fire [Johnny Cash]

Etc, etc.

On a more serious note, please be aware of the color Red! Since long men know not to buy a red car (eventually this will fade badly!). But our women have to be even more careful with the seducing red. (special women their fifties, please pay attention): DONT EAT RED THINGS! No red peppers, red Chinese sauces, tomatoes, red lipstick, red nail stuff, straw berries, etc, etc And please be cautious with red wine and avoid red carpets. Know that all these things and more can cause extreme allergic (skin) reactions.



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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

APRIL 16, 2010 COLIN LINDENS 50TH BIRTHDAY SHOW - 9 PM FEATURING BLACKIE & THE RODEO KINGS, WHITEY JOHNSON AND SPECIAL GUESTS FROM NEAR AND FAR 3rd and Lindsey Bar and Grill, Nashville


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Posted by:

JOE J

Web: My link

What's that you say? Nickleback played at the Olympics?

To compensate here's a link to Ian Tyson doing 'Springtime In Alberta'.

Actually Nickleback may be a very good R & R band for all I know. I suspect I'm spelling their name wrong.

Been a long week. Off to bed. G'night all.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Re the John Simon interview, it's really strange, as has been noted here before, to read him distancing himself from "Stage Fright" in light of the very detailed song-by-song discussion of the then-unfinished album that he provided "Rolling Stone" back in the day. (See the Library on this site.) Maybe he was confusing it with "Cahoots"?

Westcoaster: First, in belated response to your post about the closing show and the Olympics, I too was shocked that there was no Great Big Sea. I assured my wife that they'd be bound to be part of it, and went to bed confident in the knowledge that my confidence was justified. Not! I though Nickelback was fantastic, though - exactly what those pumped young athletes wanted, needed and deserved. The rest, aside from Neil Young, not so much.

And second, "The Last Thing On My Mind". I had no idea, nor would I have cared, frankly, that Porter 'n' Dolly had a hit with that or any other song. But I do like the song. My very favourite version is the Byrdish + hard rock take on the Move's wonderful "Shazam!" album. My second favourite is the more traditional approach by your old Campbell River fishing colleague Tom Northcott, circa '72.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A Satisfied Mind

I just came in the door from thinning rasp berries, and cleaning gardens. Very good David. That brings back a lot of memories from many of Porter Wagoner's shows.

I guess my favourite will always be "An old log cabin for sale". But I certainly always did like "The Last Thing on My Mind" as well.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Hey Porter

westcoaster: I've always been partial to Porter Wagoner and Dolly Parton's duet version of Tom Paxton's "The Last Thing On My Mind", which I believe was one of their first of many hits together. Then there's Mr. Wagoner's classic version of "A Satisfied Mind", later covered by the Byrds.

When Mr. Wagoner died a few years ago I remember reading in one of his obituaries that he once produced a record for the country soulman Joe Simon. Band fans might recall that Mr. Simon was also one of the first to record Tim Drummond's "Lay Down Beside You (Sip The Wine)".


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Honky Tonkin'

Today is a very beautiful sunny day here, with flat calm water. This morning my brother phoned me, (he's out on the towline with a tow of logs headed for the river..."Fraser River"). He's putting the finish on a song he just wrote. A real good country song.

I expect many people our age can relate to this. Many of the places we played music from 40 years ago onward, are burned down, torn down and just plain gone. Lorne's song is called, "They're tearin' our honky tonks down", about a lot of the places we played, and it's damn good.

So I was out in the morning sun just now, singing an old Porter Wagoner song..........David!

She burned that little roadside tavern down

The only on for miles and miles around.

I saw many hours of pleasure tumble down,

Wwwwwhen she burned that little roadside tavern down.

It was my home away from home, I spent many hours of pleasure gettin' stoned.

She said man you'll never learn, just stand back and watch 'er burn.

And she burned that little tavern to the ground........

Women!........they never did understand us!


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: John Simon -- Vinyl Siding

As I've recently been listening to several LPs produced by John Simon, it seems to be an opportune time to do some short reviews. So, on the turntable for upcoming notes on an interesting cross section of music:

"Red Rubber Ball" -- The Cyrkle (with a Simon & Simon, Paul & John, blend)
"Dream A Little Dream Of Me" -- Mama Cass (with a taste of Richard Manuel's Orange Juice)
"Three" -- Jackie Lomax (featuring guest appearance by Levon & Rick)


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro D.C.

Yes, Ilkka, I got basically the same message when I tried to look at Brian's link here at work . . . the US government server I'm using was not amused and refused to open. I forgot to look at it last night so I'll try again tonight.

For those who don't know, Levon is playing at Wolftrap in Vienna, VA July 21 with John Hiatt. Not sure who is the opener and who is the main act. I'd guess, but when we went to see Buddy Guy and George Thorogood I figured George would open for Buddy and it was the other way around! June 7 will bring us Jeff Beck.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Subject: Sorry for my poor English

Of course, it should have been f**k off, not f***k off.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Brien Sz's photos

Good to see Brien posting the link. Unfortunately, and due to my rigorious Internet security settings, I received the following message from YouTube (in Swedish): "Hej! Du har antingen inaktiverat JavaScript eller ocks anvnder du inte Adobes Flash Player. Hmta den senaste versionen av Flash Player."

In English it means: "Hello old-timer and f***k off."


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Posted by:

Steve

Just read the Gabities report, again. Seems you just can't wait 30 years to interview someone and expect to get an accurate picture.

Simon should be taken to GITMO for a proper enhanced interrogation so we don't end up with so many, I don't knows or could have beens and I don't remembers in the final report. Makes the final work seem less than thorough, almost careless or shoddy in a way.

One glaring piece of evidence that should tip every open minded reader to the less than trustworthiness of Mr. Simon's memory is his "recollection" of the size of the room in the basement.

Measure a 12x12 space in your house( try a small bathroom with a sink and a toilet). Now picture a drum set, a couple of amps, Garth's gear, several guitars, a piano, a tape machine and 5 or 6 adult men in there. That's right, impossible.

The whole interview falls apart before it gets going.

Other glaring mistakes; We now know that " TLW was not overdubbed, or a studio album as he says, Sebastian made that clear. So is he just passing along hearsay like the rest of us. He may be unknowingly quoting, Peter, at times and taking it as fact .

One question that Lee overlooks, a more probing question that the boys at GITMO would be sure to ask in response to the statement that Robbie arrived with the words and music to TNTDODD pretty much complete is, " do you know whether Robbie received any help back in Woodstock with TNTDODD from, say, Levon, before he arrived on the west coast with the music and the lyric pretty much finished.

Ah, that tricky, jh, who ever he is, will do anything to generate controversy


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Posted by:

Peter V

Lee Gabites interview with John Simon is one of the best and most quotable interviews on The Band ever. Wonderful interviewing technique, and Lee is an easy guy to speak to which is how he got such good information. He knows enough to know what to ask. Essential reading and he really puts so many things in perspective. Glad I read it again, though it might upset the old vomit and sawdust brigade!


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Thanks for the kind comments all..,I'm glad folks enjoy it.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The TRIBUTE!

Your a class act Brien Szabo........always have been..... there were better days.........a long time ago.


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Posted by:

Deb

I had the same reaction, Kevin. Mr. Simon is a class act.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: Turtle Pond

Subject: Brian Sz' YouTube video tribute

Brian, Beautiful, and tastefully done. That's fine art, son. Very moving.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

I don't but sure was nice to read that interview again..........really the definitive explanation of songwriting in The Band....even though JS felt wronged by RR...he is big enough to offer an honest account on songwriting.....says a lot about the man....... just saw a second hand clothing store on Yonge street selling "Norwegian" pants......hope the curler dudes have a piece of the action!


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Gabbington

Trying to find our old friend Lee G. from Madchester (see link above). Anyone got a valid e-mail address? Thanks.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Comic Book madness

I'm listening to a radio program on the history of comic books in Canada. A fellow named, Judge Pepperdine, from Toronto in an interview from 1954 gave his take on the effect comic books were having on the type of crimes and criminals that were coming before his court. His most amusing charge was that, in his words, comic books are the marijuana of the playpen.

Think I'll go roll up a comic book.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Shutter Island

Interesting that Robbie evidently took Dinah Washington's vocal track on "This Bitter Earth" and mixed it over composer Max Richter's haunting "On The Nature Of Daylight". The latter, modern classical piece is also used separately in the film.


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Posted by:

sascha

Web: My link

Hi great site, im playing on a electric guitar, i tried metallicas nothing else matters :)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Shutter Island

The local HMV had the double CD set in some quantity today. Apart from Robbie Robertson supervising the OST, I noted that the last track, Dinah Washington on "This Bitter Earth" is "mixed by Robbie Robertson". I'll add "brilliantly" to "mixed".


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Brien Sz: Again...a beautiful tribute....not sure why but the sound on your youtube seems much clearer than on others.......that last slide before the final one is really affecting.....


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Scorsese Soundtracks

Scorsese also used Cream's "Toad" and "Those Were The Days" in "Casino", one of the films listing Robbie as music consultant.

Along with songs from the Rolling Stones, Jeff Beck, Otis Redding and other eclectic selections, there were some with Band/Last Waltz connections:

Muddy Waters -- "Hoochie Coochie Man
Clarence "Frogman" Henry -- "Ain't Got No Home"
Little Richard -- "Slippin' and Slidin'"
Lee Dorsey -- Allen Toussaint's "Working In A Coal Mine"
Staple Singers -- "I'll Take You There"
Emmylou Harris -- "Sweet Dreams"

The latter song, written by the late-great Don Gibson, must be one of Mr. Scorsese favorites, as he later used two other versions in "The Departed" -- Patsy Cline's classic hit version and Roy Buchanan's scorching instrumental version, which was used during a key scene.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: mo' mean

re: _Mean Streets_ sound track, imdb.com also lists Johnny Ace "Pledging My Love."

see Marcus, G.:

"There are times when Richard Manuel sounds like the ghost of Johnny Ace . . . condemned to haunt a gloomy radio, from which "Pledging My Love" . . . issues every time you spin the dial."


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Web: My link

For Rick and Richard...., and for those who may have missed the slide show I put together for them.


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Posted by:

Ari!

24 Years Ago Richard Manuel Died.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi ray pence....Yup. Sebastian runs the whole show. :-D

Here's the mp3 of Robbie and Aaron Neville's take on Van's "Crazy Love" if you don't have it. Robbie's guitar sounds so elegant and otherworldly and sexy and erotic all in one! I guess you get the idea.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Kevin J Steve.......That is funny about Lady GaGa....she really does have something.....quite impossible to turn away when she comes on stage......I admire eccentricity in people - even if birds don't! Ray Pence.......good to see you here.......I remember seeing Mean Streets for the first time on late night TV in the 70's - I would have been about 14 or 15 at the time and it just blew me away.....especially remember being knocked out by the use of Rock n Roll music - I had never seen it used in quite that way before......Scorsese's use of music throughout his career has been spectacular.... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Steve--you bet. Ditto!!


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Posted by:

ray pence

hey, good points--now i didn't mention FOUTR from Last Waltz because i didn't want to state the obvious--but i completely forgot about "I looked away" on Mean Streets--thanx for pointing that out!!


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Fellow Canuckastanis

Now that the Nordic Games are over, keep in mind there's only 98 days til this year's really big Games take place.

Number 1 in hockey was wonderful for bragging rights in the handful of countries where hockey matters.

Now it's time for the planet's big show, The World Cup.

Being number 1 in hockey doesn't seem to count when it comes getting in. Canada is ranked 65th and that just doesn't cut it.

What do you think, Norm, a couple of hundred million for an "Own The Pitch", program?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve.......That is funny about Lady GaGa....she really does have something.....quite impossible to turn away when she comes on stage......I admire eccentricity in people - even if birds don't!

Ray Pence.......good to see you here.......I remember seeing Mean Streets for the first time on late night TV in the 70's - I would have been about 14 or 15 at the time and it just blew me away.....especially remember being knocked out by the use of Rock n Roll music - I had never seen it used in quite that way before......Scorsese's use of music throughout his career has been spectacular....


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Eric 'n' Marty

... not to mention "Further On Up The Road" on "The Last Waltz".


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Marty & Derek

Ray: As I recall, didn't Scorsese also use "I Looked Away" (from the Layla album) on "Mean Streets"?


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)

Subject: eric and marty

So far as I know, and I am a huge Scorsese fan (as well as being a huge Levon fan, go figure that one...), the first use of Clapton in a Scorsese film was 1973's Mean Streets, which featured a song by John Mayall's Bluesbreakers moments before a climactic shootout...the young EC was soloing with fire there...

Much later, and to much less incendiary effect, Marty used "It's in the way that you use it," mid-80s Clapton, for The Color of Money...

Then of course roared back w/GoodFellas and the stunning combos of Cream and Derek and D in that landmark movie, 1990.

IMHO Mean Streets is the definitive Scorsese film and his best use of rock and roll, which is saying a lot. Now, of course, Mean Streets was produced by Jonathan Taplin, who introduced Marty to Robbie not long after Streets, and the rest is history shall we say, so this undoubtedly puts a different and very bad spin on Mean Streets. But I say give credit where it's due, judge the movie on its considerable merits and not on what it led to w/Robbie + Marty.

To footnote, GoodFellas marked Marty's first use of solo Beatles, i.e. Harrison's What is Life during the cocaine-fueled sequence in which Henry Hill's finally busted, echoed later somewhat in the Departed with Lennon's Well Well Well. But as far as affiliations, Scorsese and the Stones overshadows what the director's done with any other supergroup music, and that includes the Band, which wasn't exactly a supergroup and bless 'em for that, I say. But they were a superb group.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Sunshine Amidst the Darkness

Scorsese also used Cream's "Sunshine of Your Love" in the "Goodfellas" soundtrack. A snippet of the song is played in the scene where Jimmy (Robert DeNiro), standing at a bar smoking a cigarette, contemplates whacking other members of his crew.


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Posted by:

Steve

David, having just read EC's autobio I'd say Layla would fit more comfortably in a collection of songs inspired by obsessive-compulsive behaviour than love. I never got the feeling he actually really loved her as much as he wanted her. I don't think he ever really expresses feelings about her that would be interpreted as love or loving.

He just seems to repeatedly say that he wants her.

Another curious thing about EC is his relationship with cars.

He collects them in spite of the fact he has no drivers license and can't drive a standard( which doesn't stop him from buying manual transmission cars), and since he only room for two in his garage he's always selling cars he just bought and hasn't driven for other pretty cars he might never drive.

It's also a little strange that though the pub he drinks at is literally at the end of his lane, 300 yards from his front door, he always drives there and often drives his car into the fence next to the garage on the way home.

IN a Band connection moment he's driving one of these sports cars home drunk and still without a license and flips it over in a ditch at high speed.

He gets out of the car and runs away and hides in some bushes til people show up and start searching for the driver that they assume has been thrown from the car and might be seriously injured. At that point he emerges from hiding and because the police are never called escapes to drive another day.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: For Kevin

Last week I heard a funny story about Lady Ga Ga. A British farmer was inspired by the get up she was wearing when she arrived at the Brit Music Awards recently.

His scarecrow wasn't having the desired effect on the local crows and he was having trouble finding something that would make the crows uneasy.

When he saw, Miss Ga Ga, exit her limo at the awards show it had the effect on him that he wanted a scarecrow to have on the crows munching his crops.

He built a replica of Miss Ga Ga in her award show dress and hairdo and says the results have been spectacular.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Layla and Other Assorted Connections

Another interesting book about Eric Clapton is Jan Reid's pocket-sized "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs by Derek and the Dominos". As the title suggests, it focuses on the period when Eric became Derek, along with some biographical background. It's told mainly through the perspective of Domino member Bobby Whitlock, who was Mr. Reid's primary source.

Martin Scorsese was evidently a Clapton fan, as he used the piano coda section of "Layla" for dramatic effect in "Goodfellas" during the famous montage scene where corpses are discovered in a pink Cadillac and a meat truck. Mr. Scorsese, as he often does, actually played the music during the filming of the scenes in order to better sync the action with the music. The Layla piano coda is used again in the closing credits.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: My Secret Shame

ray pence: taste is a funny thing . . . I like very well most of what EC's done -- except for _Layla_. The title track's brilliant, the rest of it puts me to sleep. Doesn't swing.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Hog Wild

Regarding the Arkansas porcine connection, yesterday I neglected to mention that the University of Arkansas sports teams are known as the Razorbacks. That is the colorful American name for wild pigs.

And Barry Hannah attained a masters degree from the University of Arkansas.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, in his bio EC certainly did have his sights fixed on Layla from early on but don't think that he acted in a way you'd expect from someone who has desired a woman for years and finally has his dream come true.

Before, during and after his long pursuit of Layla he's sleeping with anyone with a pulse.

His behaviour actually never changes regardless of his marital status.

When you hear or read the words to , Wonderful Tonight, you get a rather misleading picture of the feeling behind the song.

Clapton describes the way the song came about like this.

He's waiting for Patti to get ready to go out and in his words," Nell( this is what he called her at that point)was invariably late getting ready. I was downstairs playing guitar killing time. Eventually I got fed up and went upstairs where she was still deciding what to wear. I remember telling her, Look, you look wonderful, Okay? Please don't change again. We must go or we'll be late. I went downstairs to my guitar and the words came out very quickly. They were written in about 10 minutes, and actually written in anger and frustration."

Hard to imagine that someone can get them self into the situation where your only interest in the woman you've been pursuing most of your adult life, and are now married to , is that she's going out everyday to score your heroin.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Hey Thanks Jeff

If I can get there, I'll definitely check out Maguire...


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Posted by:

Rudy Hoogenboom

Location: Macungie, PA, USA

Subject: "The Band" shower curtain

I was wondering if anyone knows if I can get a shower curtain with "The Band" album cover on it. I'm talking about the famous brown The Band The Band cover, with the boys standing in a black and white photo. I think it would complement my bathroom real nice. If anyone knows, please send the link to RUHOO@aol.com .....Thanks!!!!


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Posted by:

ray pence

Except for Derek and the Dominoes, I don't really care for Clapton on his own--and he wasn't really on his own there, either.

That's my problem I suppose. But I enjoy the hell out of his playing on others' records, and that is especially true for the White Album, All things must pass, and even Roger Waters' The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, which Clapton saved.

Layla is a masterpiece, there's no question about that. But not the acoustic version, please.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)

I would hope that Garth is on Robbie's album and I would also hope that Robbie does indeed have an album on the way...isn't it true that his son Sebastian runs the Facebook page? Brown Eyed Girl, do you know? Hey, good 2CU again!! My guess it will be back to basics for Robbie but I really have no idea. I figured he had retired completely from original music making and was content with doing the occasional Scorsese soundtrack and his work for the R+R hall of fame. I hope I'm wrong. But it feels so long and is so long since "Redboy"--a record I liked a lot. He is like Stanley Kubrick I suppose in terms of productivity, but even Kubrick managed a movie or two each decade. We didn't have anything from Robbie in the OOs. Regarding Levon, I think Electric Dirt and Dirt Farmer are marvelous, especially DF. I want an album by Levon and Donald Fagen!!


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Posted by:

Deb

I do remember them, Jan. Their father Herb also played at Alabama in the late 1940's.

Barry Hannah had a connection to the University of Alabama as well. He taught in the English Department there for several years. I was fortunate enough to take one of his classes not long after he won the National Book Award for Geronimo Rex. His advice on writing was that accomplished prose isn't enough -- you have to learn to cut loose. He certainly did.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: oh, you know

Subject: A Hannah by any other name

David is so smart . . . I didn't know Barry Hannah was a writer. I thought he was a football player at the University of Alabama but then I remembered that was John Hannah. Oh, and his brothers also played football at U of A - they were Charley and David. All played pro football also. Deb, you remember them?

J.F.


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Posted by:

Steve

But, David, you were only six at the time.


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Posted by:

David P

We've lost one of our great writers, as Barry Hannah passed away yesterday afternoon in Oxford, Mississippi. His last published novel was "Yonder Stands Your Orphan", which drew its title from the lyrics of Dylan's "It's All Over Now Baby Blue".

I myself was taken with Patti Boyd's beauty many years before I really knew who she was, when I first saw her in "A Hard Days Night".


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Clapton's Autobiography

I feel he is, in many ways, just repeating what he already said in interviews and in the many bios (not least, Ray Coleman's) that have been written. Compared to Dylan's Chronicles (which to me, are Faulkner, Hemingway and Chandler, with the less irritating bits of Kerouac thrown in...), Clapton's autobiography strains for essentialness - I'm not quite sure why he wrote it: there are a few revelations, but hardly enough to warrant a 400 page book (or however many pages it is...) MOstly, any interview he did with Rolling Stone, Guitar World, NME, MOjo, and on and on will give you what he gave you.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: the land of ice, snow and Olympic debt
Web: My link

Subject: Jubilation


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Joan........it's funny we were talking about this very subject a week or so ago at a music function I was at........the composer of that irritating song "My Sharona" had died and in an obit it mentioned that the song was inspired by a girlfriend that had driven him nuts - not in a good way.......I guess Patti Boyd was helped by associating with really talented boyfriends but it does say something about her to have inspired arguably the greatest song in the Beatles catalogue and certainly Clapton's finest....not bad at all! Very awkward moment on Larry King Live last year when the always under researched Larry King asked Olivia Harrison all about "Something" and how special it must have made her feel. She was very gracious in how she handled it!


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Posted by:

Carmen

Listening to Blood on the Tracks for the 1st time in a long time- what a Great Album!

Regarding RR - hoping for the Between Trains sound!


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Posted by:

Bill M

I guess it makes sense that Patti's why James Taylor signed with Apple.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Patti Boyd

Kevin I totally agree with you. Patti Boyd is gorgeous, and she must have been incredible in her early years.That woman certainly inspired some amazing music: Layla, Something in The Way She Moves, Wonderful Tonight.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve......I believe playing with Phil Collins at some point in the 80's drove the man back to the bottle......completely understandable of course.......after seeing Patti Boyd on an interview show on CBC TV last year, I also understood, for the first time, why not being able to have her years earlier had driven him bonkers! Even in her 60's - she was captivating.......in that Rolling Stone piece I referred to yesterday with Jeff Beck, Clapton talks about getting back together recently with the great Stevie Winwood as some payback because he had always felt guilty about walking away the way he did years earlier..........A lot of actions like this ( Cream reunion, Crossroads, etc ) seem to paint the picture of a fairly decent guy....troubled but decent......anyhow, at the end of the day, when I listen to someone like Miles Davis, it's only the music the seeps through - not any of the other troubling parts of his life or personality.....When Layla comes on the FM dial...I feel good....simple as that....


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Posted by:

Steve

Joan, I have both Clapton's and Boyd's books. I may just read the sections dealing with her relationship with EC, I don't want to tarnish my image of George anymore than the Clapton book has.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Clapton

As I said here recently, I like Clapton as a musician, but he does not come off as a very nice person. If you want to delve into his personality a bit more, read Patti Boyd's Autobiography. That book along with Clapton's own really sums it all up,

As to Robbie's new work, I hope it is something new and innovating. He's done it before, and let's hope he does it now.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Web: My link

Subject: BOA

Black Oak Arkansas: "Lord Havey Mercy" (song starts around 1:50) from their self-titled album. "Uncle Lijah" and "When Electricity Came to Arkansas" -- other songs I like if you care to give them a listen.

8-)

J.F.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Black Oak Arkansas

Peter, not sure if there is a connection between Levon and Black Oak Arkansas, but there is indeed (still) a band named "Black Oak Arkansas" from, oddly enough, Black Oak, Arkansas. Steve and I first saw them when they opened for Iron Butterfly at Auburn University probably in 1971 or 1972 --- can't remember exactly. But, they blew everyone away. Kind of cross between Lynyrd Skynyrd and Van Halen only much louder. We have their first couple of albums, the first self-titled and the 2nd (?) "Raunch & Roll." We may have High on the Hog, but I'm not sure. We saw them later when they had fallen to playing the club circuit -- maybe in Birmingham or Atlanta. BTW, Iron Butterfly was horrible.



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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, I survived Frank McCourt's father to read again, I think I can take anything now.

Kevin, I'm up to 1985 or so in the Clapton's bio. I think we'd have to classify the mid sixties to 85 an episode.

Actually there is one episode of sobriety in the early 80's ( I think, the book is as Peter said a drunken, drugged out blur).

Bill, I got the feeling that Clapton was always looking for a way out of a band as soon, or as in the case of Cream, before he got into it. Hard to believe he could remember enough to write a bio all these years later since he admits to having no memory of large chunks of his life though he seems to have some vague , kind of diary like notes he quotes from at times.

Hard to keep accurate notes when you're drunk everyday by noon and then filling your brain with heroin by early afternoon, day in and day out.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Pigboy Crabshaw

Elvin Bishop released an album entitled "Hog Heaven" in the late 70's on the Capricorn label. It included a song called "Arkansas" and the album also featured guest appearances by Maria Muldaur and Amos Garrett. The album cover featured Mr. Bishop, dressed in overalls, pouring Budweiser beer down the throat of a hog.

Mr. Bishop, an alumnus of the Paul Butterfield Band, had previously adopted the knickname Pigboy Crabshaw, and the 1967 Butterfield Band album entitled "The Resurrection of Pigboy Crabshaw" refers to Bishop's emergence from the shadows following the departure of Mike Bloomfield.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Claptons autobiography is a depressing experience. The long catalogue of copulation and alcohol and drug abuse gets wearing, even if theres a hint of jealousy in the reader who didnt spend the 60s living right on Kings Road in Chelsea pursued by adoring models or the 70s playing with every musician youve ever heard of. In the end, he doesnt come over as remotely likeable. And when its an AUTObiography you should at least be able to make the best of yourself. But as a friend was saying the other night, some of those long Royal Albert Hall residences were very patchy indeed. One night it would be tightly rehearsed and beautifully played with back-to-back melodic stuff like Layla, Wonderful Tonight etc, then the next thered be four or five guys shambling about doing ramshackle and boring jam sessions on twelve bars. Fair enough, but you never knew which one you were going to get.

BTW, I was browsing the old vinyl LPs yesterday and saw Black Oak Arkansass High on The Hog from 1973. Id forgotten that thered been an LP with the same title. There is an Arkansas connection there!

I dont mind which option the new Robbie album goes for. Ill be happy anyway. I dont think hell have that 80s drum sound of the first solo one, because nobody does anymore.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Carmen....My feeling is that it will be closer in sound and feel to the 1987 debut release but with less production and a bit more guitar.....he's had a long time to work on songs and we do know that there will be some guest stars.....

Clapton....I flipped through the biography at a book store when it came out and it was obvious within 5 minutes that this was not a substantial work....a collection of his many Rolling Stone interviews over the years reveals a life certainly not wasted or disgraceful despite some really embarrassing and disgraceful episodes......


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Barry Feinstein

Photographer Barry Feinstein's relationship with Bob Dylan and The Band goes way back to the 60's. Mr. Feinstein was a friend of Albert Grossman and was married to Mary Travers (of Peter, Paul and Mary) at one time. Among his many album cover photos, one of the first to attract attention was the stark back & white portrait of Dylan that graced "The Times They Are A-Changin'". He was later commissioned by Life magazine to photograph the European leg of Dylan's 1966 tour with the Hawks.

Another of his famous photos was used for the cover of "Delaney & Bonnie & Friends On Tour with Eric Clapton". It is a photo of Albert Grossman's 1953 Silver Dawn Rolls Royce with Dylan's feet hanging out of the window. Although some sources claim the photo was taken on the 1966 Dylan tour in England, it's obvious that the landscape in the background is from the American West. I believe it was actually taken in 1963, when Feinstein & Dylan flew out to Denver to pick up the car and drive back to New York, which resulted in a series of interesting photos.

In the early 70's, Mr. Feinstein was partners with art director Tom Wilkes in Camouflage Productions, working together on many album covers, including George Harrison's Concert for Bangladesh. The star-studded event featured Dylan, Leon Russell, Billy Preston, Eric Clapton (still battling heroin addiction) and many other legendary musicians. One of Feinstein's photos of Dylan performing was used for the cover of Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: If you're really all that bummed out by the Clapton biography, I counsel against hopping right into "Johnny Got His Gun". You might instead stick with the EC theme and dive into Dave Thompson's very good "Cream: The World's First Supergroup", which I'm currently working my way through. I'm still in the fascinating days of the early British blues boomelette but I cheated a bit before I bought even bought it by following the index to the discussion of the influence that the Basement Tapes boot and a super-advance copy of MFBP had on Cream - and the demise thereof. And on the formation of Blind Faith as a more Bandish vehicle.


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Posted by:

Deb

Thanks, BEG. That's a nice photo of TVZ and an interesting site.


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Posted by:

Gene

Let's pray that Clapton repents from his sinful ways and finds redemption?


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Posted by:

Steve

I'm two thirds of the way through Clapton's autobiography, hope there's something in the last third to redeem what to this point has been a most depressing and disgraceful stumble through life.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I hope RR's cd is "Something New"


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Posted by:

carmen

Location: PA - Philly Burbs

Being a RR fan I was wondering what other BAND fans would like RR's 5th CD to sound like:

a)RR # 1

b)Storyville

c)Contact/Native Americans

d)Original Band

e)Something New.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, clicked submit too early. I reckon a photographer said, let's do a picture of you in the men's room getting ready for the show. So in they went, set camera for flourescent light etc, maybe even set a light. Richard then literally "took the piss" out of the situation by going over and pretending to take one. He's in an exaggerated peeing pose, and the picture is very sharp but we can't see any stream.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The question the photo of Richard and Robbie in the men's room asks is this. Was it posed? If not, what would be the normal reaction to someone standing in a mens' room pointing a camera at peeing celebrities? They'd at least protest. I mean the picture is professional quality, that means a good camera which in 1974 is a pretty large camera in modern terms. No sign of flash, but it's well lit under flourescent lights.So if it's posed (and I'm sure it is), why?

Around the same time Kinky Friedman was cutting "Men's Room in LA" on an album which included Band members. Maybe it was designed to be an inner gatefold picture!


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Posted by:

rodrigo

Web: My link

hola


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Morgan Library and Museum

Bob Dylans American Journey, 1956-1966

September 29, 2006, through January 6, 2007


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Helloooo Professor Pence! :-D

I knew you'd get it Deeee! Thank you! Your country's team almost beat us! Yikes!! "American Shauntastic" White made snowboarding look so easy and fun but.....wow, wow, wow.

Another site where I found Richard Manuel and Robbie Robertson in the men's room during the Bob Dylan Tour. Denver, CO, 1974. Photo by Barry Feinstein. If you look closely Deb (I think it's you.) there's a photo of one of your faves on this site as well.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Australia /Barry McGuire

Dlew, McGuire is doing shows over by you right now.


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Posted by:

ray pence

Location: the heartland (lawrence kansas)

Wow, The Band GB is back!! Or I'm the one who's back. Great to see some of the gang here!! Brown Eyed Girl, Pat B, all the fine folks!! Hello again, I'm still here in flyover country and I still love the Band--been going through another of my Band binges, listening to them a lot. Peace to all, RP


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

I think this is the EC/ABros performance.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: EC & fire & blues (blewz) guitar

Pat B - You mention Eric Clapton & the word "fire" in the same sentence. It must have been good to hear that type of playing from him. After Cream, Derek & his 1st solo album, I found his playing to be fully void of anything emotive at all.

I think the whole Blues guitar genre is shot-through for me; I can't remember the last time anyone brought anything new to it all. D Allman and then S R Vaughn for sure and I like some of what I've heard from Derek Trucks, but after 40+ years now those leads have become so redundant & monochromatic & boring that I just change the channel post haste.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Web: My link

Should have just posted the link in my first post.

Not sure how I'll survive two nights of Widespread Panic. Good thing we can come and go at this festival.

J.F.


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro D.C.

OK, so I havent been around for a while but how did I miss that the Crossroads concert tickets went on sale and sold out in five minutes?? Not that I can afford to go, but dang, it would have been nice to have a chance to get tickets.

We are going to attend the Wanee Music Festival again this year in beautiful Live Oak, FL in April. Ill post the line-up soon.

Re: Clapton/BB King. BB must not hear so well, but then again all he does in his concerts these days is talk very little guitar playing.

Steve not only did the city of Atlanta ship the homeless people out, they urged the other locals to go on vacation during those two weeks. They even talked some businesses into closing down. So, if you ever have the Olympics in your city, dont go on vacation. We were there the first week and went to the beach the second week - should have stayed in the ATL -- just hanging out downtown was so much fun I highly recommend it. Oh, but Im not sure how that will work in London though . . . .

J.F.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Pat.....I did preface the description by saying it was a "funny bit"......I think the humour was obvious......that said......NO was the correct answer......While I have never ever felt the blues when Clapton plays....he has done many beautiful things on the instrument.......and his reunion with Cream in 2005 contains some mesmerizing playing........I must watch that dvd again soon......


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Posted by:

Pat B

Now let's be accurate. Beck said "NO" as a joke and went on to explain why Clapton was/is so good.

Personally, I think EC should have sat in with Beck's band. There's a great story of EC sitting in with the ABros on Elizabeth Reed. Evidently the group kicked him in the ass so hard that he played with a self-admitted fire he hadn't experienced since the Dominoes daze.


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Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Upstate NY

Subject: Eric Clapton

If I remember correctly, BB King when inducting Buddy Guy into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, said something about Eric Clapton being the greatest blues guitar player he'd ever heard.


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: WAY TO GO CANADA

Am not a Hockey fan so I could smile at the passion the win generated! Enjoyed that the young lady got to light the flame, The Maple Leaf Forever segments and of course, Neil Young. A nice touch were the folks who said their names and "I Am A Canadian"!


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Posted by:

Tiny Monster

Location: Out-There

Subject: ... Clapton's Prowess ...

".. Funny bit in the article....the writer sitting with both men asks Clapton if there is anything Beck does that he can't do on guitar...Clapton says yes - quite a few things.....The writer then turns to Beck and asks if Clapton does things that he can't do....Beck says... NO!'

... That's definitely true ... Fact is there's nothing Clapton can do that my kid ( 30 yr old ) can't and has done ... Not that I don't care for Clapton, I do, it's just that most lead guitar players who know or study old school blues *start* there ... Jeff Beck on the other hand is a whole other animal ...

... The whole better worse "GOD" ha-ha-ha thing goes nowhere and means nothing ... I hope we've all learned at least that much in our years ...



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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Steve, missed your post. The book is under the link.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Johnny got his pantaloons

Steve: No, it was Martin for sure. The checked pants will come later, hopefully much later, when I've moved into my dotage and will be another old guy with no clothes sense. You too, I'll wager.

Norbert: As you mentioned Donald Sutherland, and Steve mentioned the Olympics, I have to note that DS did the voiceover for the opening of the Vancouver games, as you may have heard a couple of weeks ago.

Speaking of author / filmguy Dalton Trumbo, it might be worth mentioning that the man was one of the higher-profile Hollywood victims of McCarthyism in the early '50s, I believe.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Johnny Got His Gun

Bill, yes from 1971 with Jason Robards, Timothy Bottoms and Donald Sutherland. I agree, a superb script, a good movie but somewhat slow (dated?) at times, nevertheless ....


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Clapton & Beck

For bob w or dlew or anyone who likes Jeff Beck.....he and Clapton are on the cover of Rolling Stone at the newsstands now........a very good article and some great photos.........also makes you realize the power of hooking up with someone of Clapton's stature for an album or tour......gets your face on the cover of a major magazine and no doubt moves multiple thousands of cds........Robbie with Clapton probably gets a cover....Robbie solo gets a fine article but no cover...... Funny bit in the article....the writer sitting with both men asks Clapton if there is anything Beck does that he can't do on guitar...Clapton says yes - quite a few things.....The writer then turns to Beck and asks if Clapton does things that he can't do....Beck says... NO!


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill are you sure it was the hope generated by Martin's win and not those Norwegian nickers?


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, and Norbert, I'd never heard of the book or movie but will search out the book on the strength of Bill's glowing rating.

Norbert which version are you watching, the 1971 or 2008 one.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y.

I think that photo was taken right after Richard and Robbie left the stage from performing an encore of "I Shall Be Relieved."


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Posted by:

Bill M

Ari: Thanks for the photo. Do you think Robbie's really fixing his hair, or is he considering pissing in the sink? There may well be an empty urinal, but who'd want to take the chance and stand next to that other guy.

Norbert: "Johnny Got His Gun" is one of the very best books I've ever read, but also among the most depressing. I don't think I could sit through the movie (with Timothy Bottoms?).

Joe J: The gold that brought a tear to my eye was men's curling. Jeez, if a now-balding, once-thin, middle-aged guy like Kevin Martin can do it, maybe there's hope in this world ...


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: From Reality To Fantasy

Norm, pay attention please. I'm all about play. Keeping things within reason has been the theme.

Now since you don't like my reality checks how about my fantasy take on the hockey game.

As I was in the basement painting some of the 104 pieces of my green house between the end of the regulation time and overtime, I was thinking of the rumoured performance of Neil during the closing ceremonies.

Then I thought how cool it would be if they worked Neil into the end of the hockey game.

In overtime you go from 5 to 4 players on each side.

To start the overtime period I was hoping to see the Canadians send out their line of Crosby, Staal, and Nash. Then as the crowd waits for the 4th player, Neil glides out onto the ice in a Toronto Make Believes jersey( same vintage as Robbie's in TLW) and sings Helpless while accompanied by CSN playing their sticks as air guitars.

Now, that would be an Olympic moment to cherish forever.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Great Big Sea

At the closing ceremony of these Olympic games, it was of course great to see Neil Young sing "Long May You Run" very fitting. Great also to see Michael Buble. However I was disappointed that Great Big Sea was not included. Two bands I know nothing of made a great deal of noise.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Peritonitis

David; I may have mentioned before. I suffered a perforated ulcer at the age of 22. To this day, I remember the pain of peritonitis. The doctor, (old Doc Pickup) in the little hospital in Alert Bay, sewed up the hole in my stomach. I weigh usual about 190....in 11 days I was 139. The doc said to me, "I'll tell you how lucky you are that I got you in time. You had about 5 hours left and you'd be dead. 85% of people who suffer what you did die."

I think I was just too onry to die. Back then not knowing the cause of those ulcers, they didn't treat us real well.


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: Rock of Ages

I recently acquired the Atlantic 45 single of "What Am I Living For" b/w "Hang Up My Rock and Roll Shoes" by Chuck Willis. Mr. Willis, who was from Atlanta, Georgia, was not only a great singer, but a talented songwriter as well. He had a quiet, graceful personality and, with his trademark turban, he became known as "The Sheik of the Blues" and "King of the Stroll", after the popular dance rhythm of the 50's. Plagued by ulcers, he was too soon gone at the age of 30, when passed away in 1958 from peritonitis. This 45 was the last single he recorded before his death and The Band included their great cover version as part of the Rock of Ages live set. Mr. Willis' majestic original version featured a sublime arrangement with the Reggie Obrecht Orchestra and Chorus. I just can't help it, but my feet start moving everytime I listen to this song.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Absolute Disinterest

You're just a dog with the same old bone you've knawed on so long it's rotten. Do your kids ever play???? Get out there and lay down the law and tell them how much time they're waisting. Better yet.....start your own blog where you can discuss all this shit with who ever may want to pound away on their keys debating with you. Your just wasting space here.


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Posted by:

Steve

Sorry, Norm, to complain about things such as the Olympics and what they've become. Could be the profession I chose. Farmers seem to be a very hard group to stampede. We know how that works. You have to do more than wave a red flag in front of them to make them put aside their common sense and charge after the herd.

Now that the games are over, and let's not forget that's what they are, games, reality will creep back in. Now comes the hangover beginning with this week's federal budget where program and pension spending will be cut, we'll be told we don't have the money.

Your gov't announced last week that they were cutting $10,000,000.00 from education spending maybe that was to help make up for the cost over runs at the games.

When Vancouver made their bid for the games they put the cost of security at 100 million. Before the games started the cost had multiplied by a factor of 10 times to just over a billion dollars and is expected to be well above that in the end.

We just spent $110,000,000.00 more than in Turin on our amateur athletes and moved from 2nd to third place in the process winning two additional medals.

What do think it will take to maintain this position four years from now, $ 200 million ,possibly 3?

Those two medals cost $55 million a piece.

It's like the escalating spending on cold war weapons, if you want to stay in the game you throw caution to the wind and go for the gold. Makes me long for the days when the East Germans and Russians sent women that looked like men and sometimes were, and we sent true amateurs. They won most of the medals and we could really get excited about winning silver.

PS. Our gov't spent as much for those two medals as they gave to Haitians to help rebuild their devastated country.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

We've been through
some things together
With trunks of memories
still to come
We found things to do
in stormy weather
Long may you run.

"Long May You Run" Neil Young! It was great to see him perform at the Olympics afterall!

BTW Ari, the photo of Robbie and Richard that I just posted from the tumblr.com site is of.....Richard Manuel and Robbie Robertson in the mens room during the Bob Dylan Tour. Denver, CO, 1974. Photo by Barry Feinstein.


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Posted by:

ARI!

Web: My link

Subject: RICHARD AND ROBBIE PHOTO

GREAT PHOTOGRAPH BY BARRY FEINSTEIN


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Peace In the Valley

Congratulations to all Olympians everywhere. Doesn't matter what country you're from, I hope you had the experience of a lifetime.

Norm, I'm just spitballing here, but we could all put our differences aside and go after the Laplanders, who have WMD (according to the internet).


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Westie: Yes and no. We were up 2-0....playing against an amazing US goalie. When we lost our composure....veteran Pronger finally helped out today in calming us down somewhat...but then the Americans tied us up! We all knew it wasn't going to be a walk on the wild side.....but then to go into your dressing room knowing and feeeeeeling and reflecting on the fact that only 30 seconds was left to play and ya could have won it all!!....And then to come out again and score the golden goal.....Wow! Iginla and lucky boy Crosby finally came through when it really mattered. You're right about their ineffective play up until then.....Yes, we had what it takes and with all the pressure of our country on their backs....which they'll always face 'cause it's our game......That's all I really meant. Today imagezulu's photo students wanted to finish up early so they could go home to watch the game. It reminded me of '72 when we were let out of school early to watch USSR vs Canada in hockey as well....Hockey means as much to us as baseball does to the Americans. :-D


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Confrontations & Agitators

Brown Eyed Girl; If you were mentioning the gold hockey game, Canada "dodged a bullet", and were very lucky in their win. Sidney Crosby, and Gerome Iginla, until the last shot of the game were not even a force in the last two games. The Canadian team played like winners for about the first 30 minutes of the game. Then they totally lost their composure. They didn't forcheck, and ran around like a bunch of amatuers.

The young speed, and style of the American team, (after beating the Canadian team late the first match) damn near did it again. Sidney Crosby himself eluded to the "luck" of his winning shot.

The only bragging I can see from these olympics are that many of athletes did have the "heart" to win, some under very difficult circumstances.

On both sides of our border, after this hockey game, on the news blogs there were some very seriously tasteless comments made by both American and Canadian people. It is sad that people feel they have to be so negative. On one news source, the worst that I noticed was an american woman whose comment was I hope you f-ing Canadians get your own 9-11 soon.

What I have noticed here resently is Steve's never ending tirade of comments, where he seems to expect everyone to know his "meaning" or what is in his mind. For the life of me, I will never understand the motivation behind this. Then also to shit on any one who takes him to task for his boisterous and less than tasteful comments.

Knocking our government constantly, picking his "researched" parts out of history to show his vast knowledge of history and politics I guess, I don't know.

C'mon Steve. If you put as much research and effort into music as you did in all this other stuff, you'd make it a whole lot easier for every one to converse with you and enjoy your comments. I don't know? is being an agitator what ly is Steve's never ending tirade of comments, where he seems to expect everyone to know his "meaning" or what is in his mind. For the life of me, I will never understand the motivation behind this. Then also to shit on any one who takes him to task for his boisterous and less than tasteful comments.

Knocking our government constantly, picking his "researched" parts out of history to show his vast knowledge of history and politics I guess, I don't know.

C'mon Steve. If you put as much research and effort into music as you did in all this other stuff, you'd make it a whole lot easier for every one to converse with you and enjoy your comments. I don't know? is being an agitator what you really enjoy? Are you going to "change the world" with all of your comments on here and "educate' all of us on how countries really should be run. Is this really fun for you???

Jan, if you feel you need to delete this and stop this now, that's fine with me. Just the other day we were really into talking music, bands, slide guitar etc. Lars thanked everyone for a good week. Now this has deteriorated to...............this. It's not fun, it's silly and pathetic.

There is one hell of a lot of people here I really like......and respect! After thinking about these olympic games, I spent "hours" on google earth this morning looking at some really great pictures, and learning Norway, and Siberia, and appreciating people and what they do. THAT was fun...........so long.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Gold Silver Bronze Total
USA 9 15 13 = 37
Germany 10 13 7 =30
Canada *14 * 7 5= 26

"Don't ya wish your Team was hot like mine? Don't Cha?......Don't Chat?"

Amazing Olympics this year! US team was playing very well. We just played better today. I even watched Curling for the first time in my life.

Neil Young was spotted at a couple of hockey games. He was not present at his Tribute but Louuu and Elvis Costello and Toronto's Broken Social Scene and Ron Sexsmith were there among others.


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