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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, March 2009


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: "Perogy with a headband", eh? Great line, better even than host Russell Peter's, that Mike had obviously been "Eating For The Weekend".


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norbert/ Rick article

I have seen that one before, I think we discussed back on LP. I don't know who Mariana Fikes is, but I found the article pretty "venomous". I know I'm a Dankette, and prefer not to deal with some of Rick's "issues", but I really don't know what her problem is.

No problem with your posting it Norbert, I guess I may be "over protective'

By the way, back to the Robin story, We had some folks we knew from Eindhoven, Small world indeed.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: 50 Greatest Albums Of All Time?

Found this list on YouTube, although he forgot the best and others, some are right, anyway according to a 'Robem69' the 50 Greatest Albums Of All Time:

(click the link for a nice good old cover slide)

quote

1. Revoler- The Beatles 2. Highway 61 Revisited- Bob Dylan 3. Dark Side Of The Moon- Pink Floyd 4. Let It Bleed- The Rolling Stones 5. Tommy- The Who 6. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band- The Beatles 7. Born To Run- Bruce Springstien 8. Bringing It All Back Home- Bob Dylan 9. The Complete Recordings- Robert Johnson 10. Trout Mask Replica- Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band 11. Apostrophe (')- Frank Zappa 12. The Beatles (The White Album)- The Beatles 13. Exile On Main Street- The Rolling Stones 14. The Wall- Pink Floyd 15. Safe As Milk- Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band 16. Who's Next?- The Who 17. Live/ Dead- The Grateful Dead 18. At Folsom Prison- Johnny Cash 19. Pet Sounds- The Beach Boys 20. Astral Weeks- Van Morrison 21. The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan- Bob Dylan 22. Joe's Garage- Frank Zappa 23. A Love Supreme- John Coltrane 24. Love and Theft- Bob Dylan 25. The Velvet Underground & Nico- The Velvet Underground & Nico 26. The Concert For Bangla Desh- George Harrison & Friends 27. Slowhand- Eric Clapton 28. Disraeli Gears- Cream 29. Are You Experienced?- Jimi Hendrix 30. The Madcap Laughs- Syd Barrett 31. Hot Rats- Frank Zappa 32. Rubber Soul- The Beatles 33. Stickey Fingers- The Rolling Stones 34. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars- David Bowie 35. The Piper At The Gates At Dawn- Pink Floyd 36. Imagine- John Lennon 37. Hunky Dory- David Bowie 38. Led Zeppelin- Led Zeppelin 39.Wolfmother- Wolfmother 40. Abbey Road- The Beatles 41. Last Man Standing- Jerry Lee Lewis 42. Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs- Derek & The Dominoes 43. At Filmore East- The Allman Brothers Band 44. Get Behind Me Satan- The White Stripes 45. Rocket To Russia- The Ramones 46. London Calling- The Clash 47. Paul Butterfield Blues Band- The Paul Butterfield Blues Band 48. SMiLE- Brian Wilson 49. ... In The Court Of The Crimson King- King Crimson 50. Electric Ladyland- Jimi Hendrix

I forgot to orginize in Blood On The Tracks by Bob Dylan, so that is like number 15 Honorable Mentions Love- The Beatles (only if you are a hard core Beatle fan) Magical Mystery Tour- The Beatles The Doors- The Doors Nevermind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols- The Sex Pistols Legend- Bob Marley Meet The Beatles- The Beatles Modern Times- Bob Dylan Animals- Pink Floyd ZOSO- Led Zeppelin Physical Graffitti- Led Zeppelin Live At The Apollo I- James Brown Pearl- Janis Joplin Eat a Peach- The Allman Brothers Band Nevermind- Nirvana Appetite For Destruction- Guns n' Roses War- U2 Joshua Tree- U2 Graceland- Paul Simon Lick My Decals Off, Baby- Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band Music From Big Pink- The Band Superfly- Curtis Mayfield Metal Box- Public Image Ltd Pink Moon- Nick Drake It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back- Public Enemy Paul's Boutique- Beastie Boys Categorie: Muziek Labels: bob dylan the beatles frank zappa

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.... find The Band


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: hunting the wily Canuckichukistanian

Bill M: that explains why he looks like a perogy with a headband . . . .

He doesn't figure in any list I can Google (I still like Wikipedia's list of Danko, Barilko et al.) but as a closet 'chuk' you'll no doubt enjoy the list of notables at [My link]: Melanie? Sure. Chantal Kreviazuk? Naturally. Herb Alpert???


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Posted by:

Mike

Ari: Thanks for the Robbie youtube.com clip @ the JFK luggage carousel. He was quite amusing w/ his answers.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Joan and Mike thanks.

Link: Rick Danko article.


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, last time I gave you the wrong time for the replay of Q at night, sorry, it's 10 not 11.

I'm mentioning it now because as David pointed out Bruce released a double live album today. It's his first live solo release and he was on Q this morning with his guitar for an hour long chat about his career, with Jian. The album is taken from 10 solo concerts and sound checks done over the last couple of years.

It was a better interview than the Gord interview just because Bruce is much more into interviews than Gord I think.

He discussed rocket launcher in a little bit of depth. He wrote the song while still in Mexico after having spent a couple of days visiting the different refugee camps of displaced Guatemalans. He said the song was written in a hotel room the day he left the last camp, over a bottle of bourbon with tears running down his face.

Empty, I hardly ever get to watch the youtube videos people post. It takes an hour to download a 4 minute video and my server often cuts out after about 15 minutes and then I have to start over. I tried to watch the Anthony Quinn one but it kept cutting out. I guess I'm missing half of your posts.

Someday maybe high speed will reach us out here in the woods.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: The late great Steve M

Check this link out - the Germans were rockin in 66...also note the huge influence Marriott was on Paul Weller....fully acknowledged to Weller's credit.....


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

With all due respect to the talented Ronnie Lane, I'd say that he was the third-best singer in the (Small) Faces, with number one being Steve Marriot. See link for one of several tapings of "Tin Soldier". (An even more incendiary live version appeared on an Immediate 45 that I foolishly gave away in the '70s.) See also "All Or Nothing" by the same group or, to see Marriot even harder at work, look for Humble Pie doing "I Don't Need No Doctor".


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Posted by:

Peter V

We crossed in the ether … I'm taking your "1968" back to late 1965 or early 1966.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Maybe I'm Amazed - Faces

Encore - Ronnie & Rod together


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Posted by:

Pat B

Ari, Rod the Mod claimed that he wrote Forever Young--and it is indeed markedly different in some respects than the Dylan/Band version(s)--but I believe he eventually paid Bob Dylan for the obvious "borrowing".


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rod the Mod

I saw Rod with The Soul Agents and Steampacket before he became a star, and as a rock vocalist there was no one better. On the other hand, the Daily Tory (aka Daily Telegraph) listed the 100 best singles a few weeks ago and chose Rod's "The First Cut is The Deepest" which was appallingly ignorant. The ONLY version of that great song is by P.P. Arnold. Rod's attempt is a travesty. He had a fair bash at Robbie's "Broken Arrow" though.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Ari: While you were away, bob w and I engaged in some good back and forth relating to Faces and Ronnie Lane with some great links. Go back a few weeks – perhaps into February – and you will enjoy what you find. Lane was a wonderful character, excellent songwriter but when it comes to vocals…very few in the history of Rock n Roll can come any where near Rod Stewart circa 1968-1974.

As to Ronnie Hawkins……he mentioned it in a recent interview – not sure where or when………….


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Not to digress, but I have come to the conclusion that Ronnie Lane was the most modest British rockstar of all time (if you want to even call him a rockstar, he also has a better voice than Rod). Digressing further, I find ironic how people that dish on Rod Stewart nowadays are uneducated and know him from his well-chosen-but ultimately detrimental covers like Forever Young. How's that for a ramble?


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Did Ronnie really try to bring Robbie and Levon together? When?


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Slice O Life

Speaking of Bruce Cockburn, I noticed that he's releasing a 2-disc live solo album today.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the Reader's Digest version ...

Kevin J: Bob went electric; Bruce went ballistic.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: So there were three Knack’s? Just thinking about that makes you appreciate how brilliant the name The Band is. I really liked looking at that list also and yes the Cockburn date stood out. The world knows about Dylan going electric but I still remember the furor caused in mid/late 70’s in Canada when Cockburn went electric…… “If I had a Rocket launcher” was a long way from what he played to sandal wearing coffee drinkers in 64………


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Norbert/ Robins

A link to an Audobon Society article. Due to Global warming, the Robins are not migrating.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Landmark: CHUM is now CP27 - an all news station or something hideous like that. Don't Shiva just yet, as the place has Lazaroidian tendencies - went from oldies to sports and back within a year or so. Don't know if he's still there, but the big boss at CHUM was Duff Roman, notable his for his having been the first to record our guys post-Hawkins.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

What GB dreams are made of………………That would be one Ramble I would pay a premium for…..Ronnie Hawkins says he tried to bring the two of them together….didn’t work out so I guess nothing ever will…..meanwhile Paul takes Yoko to lunch a few times a year….they chat pleasantly – enthusiastically even. Oh well…………………

Ari: Thank you


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: as my uncle used to say ...

Illegitamus non carborundum (or whatever it was). Click the link, buy the CD and work towards Fred getting a lifetime achievement award. If Mike Reno from Loverboy can do it, hope is universal.

sadavid: Speaking of whom, given that the real name is Rynoski, there seems a good chance that he's one of the chosen - but does he have a spot on one of those lists of great Canuckichukistanis?

Kevin J: Different Knack. Four westerners (two Saskatchewanians, a Winnipegger and a Skritnik from BC) transplanted to Toronto. Because of a US Knack (who recorded for Capitol in the swirl days), they became the Dickens. The Winnipegger, Jim Ackroyd, had played in another TO band, the Four to Go, with Neil Young and Ken Koblun from the Squires after that group had broken up. Afterwards Ackroyd formed James and the Good Brothers, who did the Festival Express tour with our guys and recorded a wonderful LP with members of the Dead and the Airplane.

Speaking of whom, did you notice, on the Le Hibou list, Jack and Jorma playing as a duo in '68? Or Jesse Winchester playing the same year. And see how far back Cockburn's career goes - '64! (Flying Circus was his band - an outgrowth of the Mynah Birds, of all things, and Olivus was too. And the Esquires. And Heavenly Blue - in which group he and Amos Garrett seem to have taken turns being the guitarist. And maybe in Three's A Crowd, if the second version played the club.) Also, I wonder if John Hammond's visits to Ottawa were part of a 'tour' that led him through Toronto too, maybe even the time he first saw our guys play?


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Bon Iver

I posted about Bon Iver a bit back. I really enjoy his music, but I can also see why some people wouldn't. Maybe Robbie likes that album because it is a "woodshedding" album? He may also absorb what his kids are listening to. Anyways, I shall be catching Bon Iver at the sasquatch music festival.

Where did Robbie say that? I missed something...

Oh, and Dlew. Those album covers get more and more disturbing. The "all my friends are dead" album cover is hilarious.


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Posted by:

David P.

Well there is a Grammy award-winning new band rambling around Woodstock & beyond. With Jimmy Vivino moving west to join Conan, there might be an opening for a guitarist -- Naah :-)


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Dlew919 / Steve

Dlew919 : Amen, wise sentence, thanks

Steve : nothing important you missed, excepted the links in my posts, I’m sure you’re updated that for the innocents ones, relatives and friends, who ever trusted in hollow promises of justice, all what 8 years of mess led to, is a footwear double-miss and an army with no face 10x stronger and better structured than ever, the only army in history who can strike innocents anywhere and anytime in the world, more exactly where and when it hurts the more

Footnote : all links, though not being part of The Band website, are integral part of my posts, and strongly The Band Connected


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Posted by:

Peter V

Why Woodstock, Ari? I thought Robbie was into new bands. (Tongue also in cheek).


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Robbie was impressed with Bon Iver. He's in New York, he should take a visit to Woodstock. Tongue way in cheek.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Airports

Juno Awards: Sales matter and have a direct linkage to nominations. I worked with a singer in the 90's and recall a letter she recieved related to a cd she had released which stated simply.....x number of units sold equal Juno recognition/placement number 7 or 10......In categories that are not mainsteam, I would imagine that voting would largely be based on sales....sad - but as simple as that most likely......

As embarassing as Nickleback are I do like Sam Roberts.

Robbie Robertson: Anyone catch that ( one and only ) band he said he was currently impressed with?

The Knack in 1966? Answers Bill M ......answers......................


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Posted by:

David P.

Peter: Bill Cosby also joined the Warner Brothers roster a year or so after Allan Sherman.


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Posted by:

Steve

Empty, did I miss something? What's all the excitement about?

Thanks for putting up the link to that, Charlie "Joe Goebbels" Daniels tune, I've never heard it, guess I don't listen to the right network.

Actually if you just swap some of the terms this could have been inked by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Remember, GOD is on OUR side!


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Posted by:

Mike

Norbert & Joan: Saw our first Blue Heron of the season early last night. One or two families come back to the same spot each year. Lots of robins out now.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Bill, many condolences over your spiritual de-pantsing at the Junos Sunday. To add to your misery (and mine), has CHUM changed their format? Give me the word and I'll call Schwartz's Delicatessen to cater the shiva.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Who would be? I think it's a huge intrusion when someone's at a luggage carousel to pester them (plus filming in a security area would get you arrested most places). And the guy just happens to have a Stratocaster scratch plate on him? I would have told the guy to "f*ck off" myself. The point about a signed guitar isn't just a scratch plate. I thought Robbie was remarkably patient.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Web: My link

Robbie signing autographs. He's very funny. He doesn't seem pleased.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Paddy Roberts was a comedy singer and his EP with "The Ballad of Bethnal Green" is something you see a lot in secondhand stores so it must have sold well at the time. Comedy records were very popular around then … Bob Newhart was Warner Brother's biggest early success after The Everly Brothers, and right after him you get Allan Sherman, so that early WB looks like comedy central. In the UK, Benny Hill, Peter Sellers, Mike Sarne etc all had comedy hits. Bernard Cribbins too with Right Said Fred and Hole in the Ground. I'm sure Charlie Drake's inimitable "My Boomerang Won't Come Back" must have been an Australian hit. He also did a piss take of Splish Splash that did as well as the original.

Paddy Roberts leans towards the "Rugby Songs" area … the two LPs of rugby songs were major 60s sellers in the UK, and much enjoyed at parties.It's all the classic Good Ship Venus / Eskimo Nell sort of thing.


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Posted by:

Steve

NB, I don't know if you've heard any music from the album by old man Banjo Banger but to flesh out your hockey analogy a little better it's like the Detroit Red Wings losing to the Florida Everblades of the East Coast Hockey League.

I'm guessing with the way these things are decided it was based on record sales, most goals scored if you prefer. I heard one of the tracks from banjo Boys album last night and it was kind of pathetic. Too much banjo! Maybe Fred needs to pick up a banjo player and base his lyrics on nursery rhymes like Luddy's song I heard last night.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Great iPod shuffle on the way into work this AM - The Band's "Streetwalker" - Dylan & The Band's "Down in the Flood" - Martha Scanlan's "Set Me Up High" - Dylan's "Too Many Mornings" - The Band's "Key to the Highway."


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Teh Paddy Roberts?

I'm assuming it's a comedy record. (I've not heard of it...) \m Actually, I'd've thought you'd've had the Kevin Rowlands - wasn't he the 'problematic' lead singer of 'Dexy's Midnight Runners'?

Empty Now. The plight of the innocent is never forgotten - sometimes it takes a while for the plight to be noticed...



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Posted by:

Peter V

I have just one of those album covers … the Paddy Roberts. I think all the others were new to me.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: More album covers

Some of these were in Kristies list from earlier: some, however, aren't...


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: The Band

Politicians and acute analysts of The Band GB, why are thou hiding as soon as reality doesn’t fit your cleverness ?
Eight years ago Bush announced horns & trumpets the total war consolidated for the Band Connection by an idiotic hit-song “not a rag flag” of Charlie Daniels which was in reality ethnic slur rather than a patriotic stand. C’est vrai que the US army has been a bit distracted. Thus, the time it will end its next distraction, supplied by the everyday blunders and abuses of the America_driven_by_Israel narrow policies, the seeds are going to come out, O guess what El Quieda will look like at the end of the invasion of IraN. All those years the Algerian army has been fighting all alone for the USA interests and its Europe poodle countries, and Empty Now is now fighting all alone against the universal bullshit, please let me alone with a cup of Rai,

along came Obama…


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Steve: Eaglesmith's Done, Stick A Fork In Him !

You're right Steve. Fred can't possibly rebuild his career in music after losing the Juno to some banjo-playing bluesnoser. I mean, that would be like winning the Stanley Cup after being down 3 games to nothing in the final. In fact after this calamity, I'm not even sure if Bill M. will show his face around here anymore. After backing this Fred loser for as long and as ardently as he has, Bill may no longer even be allowed to post here. But even if he is, I strongly suspect he'll at least lose his exalted "Man of Letters" status over this debacle. I'm thinking it can't be long before Peter V., David P. and the others revoke the M after Bill's name and make him just plain old, non-authoritative "Bill", ie. just another commoner like us. NB.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: More specifically

No Nuthin Northern Nutjob.

I thought yould enjoy how the No and Nu s even out.

Maybe Bill should embrace capitalism, Anheiser Busch, and give up his universal health care. Move to St Louis where Eaglesmith has always been king. No shite. KDHX reveres him, Off Boradway, on Lemp, is his home away from home.

Dave Alvin also gets the royal treatment on both that station and in that club. Performed there acoustic, through a blackout. Several of the guys from Alvin's various bands come from Springfield, Missouri, which actually is a hotbed of rock and roll and other sorts of music. Most likely, crystal meth as well.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Lovely post by Carol Caffin on her "Sip the Wine" Rick Danko blog.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Article (link) CLASSIC TRACKS: The Band 'The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down'.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, if only you'd taken me up on my offer to join forces to promote Tinder-Barks we could have avoided all this. My condolences.

A fuckin banjo hack at that, damn Bill, what do you think Fred's future is now? Has he got a backup career, a plan B?


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Posted by:

Norbert

Joan thanks for the follow-up on our feathered friends and the pic. Indeed Drarwinish differences between the species.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: March 21st Levon Helm "Midnight Ramble" pics.

Guests included are David Keyes, Garth Hudson, Donald Fagen & Jay Collins. Pics by Paul La Raia.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: Out of The Mouth of Nutjobs

Bill M. First off, my heartfelt condolences on Fred Eaglesmith somehow not winning the Juno in his category. Not mainstream enough, I suppose, to even be up for album of the year. I hadn't even thought of that till reading Kristie's post - and yet, why not ? If even a know-nuthin nutjob (to combine a Jeffism with a Normism) like myself can discern the brilliance of "Tinderbox", how can anyone else fail to do so ? I was only trying to be as idiotic as possible (ie. in my comfort zone) when I posted earlier that Fred better be looking over his shoulder for Old Man Leudeckie, the pride of (hey, wait a minute) Chester, Nova Scotia, with his blazing banjo solos ! And then sure enough, that old nag Leudeckie up and wins the dang thing. Well, if it'll cheer you up any Bill, I'll let you buy me several Guinness next time I'm in Toronto. I guess the only silver lining in all this is that Old Man Leudeckie records on Jim Byrnes label. Maybe thinking of this as not a loss for Eaglesmith, but rather a victory of sorts for Jim Byrnes, will help take some of the sting out of it for you. Anyway, that's what I'm going to do. NB.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Tears are not enough?

sadavid: Tears are all I've got - see previous post. [sniff]

Kristie: Thanks [sniff] - you're a true friend. [sniff]


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: Junos Band-spotting

The interminable foofarall that heralded Loverboy's Juno Lifetime Achievement Award, or Hall of Fame, or whatever it is, included a millisecond historical clip of JRR presenting them with an award. There was also a millisecond historical shot of the "Tears Are Not Enough" participants (elements of L'boy figured prominently), so I guess Richard also appeared in last night's telecast.


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Posted by:

TGS

Subject: Robbie's Telecaster tone

Robbie's tele tone on the 1963 recording of "Who Do You Love" was phenomenal. Does anyone have a guess as to which tele he played and what his amp setup was in the studio?


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Robbie & Dominique

They separated after the Last Waltz, but got back together later. I don't know if they are still a couple. Robbie has been photographed with another woman.


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Posted by:

Mike

I believe they divorced in the vicinity of The Last Waltz production...not positive though. Sebastian would have to answer that question. Dominique is a psychologist in the Santa Monica, CA area. Joan: Thanks:).


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Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: Plochmann Lane ( Mike )

"Former wife"

Are Robbie and Dominique divorced? What?

When?

Is he now married to the woman identified as his wife in the 3/23/03 picture taken at Elton John's Aids Foundation Oscar party?



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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Bill M

The Juno's were ridiculous. Nickleback got best album of the year? As Dylan said;"is that some kind of joke?" I could name forty albums of the top off my head by Canadian artists that are better("tinderbox" being one of the best on the list). Oh, a sad day for Canada. You take all the time you need.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Mike

Can I put you in charge of my social calendar? :-D You are amazing. How do you keep up? This is a serious question. I can't keep track of my own "stuff".


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Wall of Sound

Charlie, The only indoor Strathmore concert I've attended was Last Train Home opening for Marty Stuart. I thought the sound was pretty bad. Our oldest, audiophile, son was with us and when we walked out, he said, "the sound was horrible." So, it wasn't just me and I often wonder b/c I'm not too good at picking up on things like that.

Is there anyone out there that can explain why a venue would be better suited to classical music and not other genre?

The only venue where I've actually said I would NEVER attend another concert was the Georgia Dome. Needs to be a sports only venue, IMHO.

Re: Robbie's Facebook page -- I e-mailed Sebastian (actually through his Facebook page) and thanked him for organizing & maintaining his Dad's new pages on Facebook & MySpace. I didn't really expect a response, but had one within a few minutes . . . nice.

Jan F.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The View (from Franklin's Tower)

Pat B: The Dead, along with Bill O'Reilly, are guests today on The View. What a long strange trip it's been. Watch out Whoopi.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I call your name

But you're not there, am I to blame,

For being unfair? Oh I can't sleep at night,

Since you been gone, I always weep at night,

I can't go on!!!!

See you on Sunday........Northern Buoy


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: such sadness

Today I learned that the Juno award went to Old Man Leudeckerous and his banjo instead of Fred Eaglesmith for "Tinderbox". n\ I'll need some time ....


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Best Venues

Jan F: thanks for the update on LTH. Your mention of the Strathmore--mostly a venue for classical concerts--makes me wonder what venues people consider the best acoustically in their areas. I think the Strathmore is the most amazing acoustic room for the size I've ever experienced. The Barns of Wolf Trap is also a remarkable venue in that regard, but a much more intimate space. The Strathmore is also a delight of design and gorgeous wood. I wish they held more non-classical concerts there, but one review I read of a Dr. John concert there made the Strathmore sound more suited to classical music. I'm very sorry I missed the Bruce Hornsby solo piano show there when the place first opened (a benefit gig with the gospel group, Sweet Honey in the Rock), but maybe he'll come back some day when I can make it. A good week to all...


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day Eric Clapton - 64 yrs old.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Ma Tebkish

Sorry, I rather should have linked this version - How an Eternal Rai Hero in his natural element looks like

- Rough Translation

Don’t cry, say it’s just destiny
You can live in the fear of the wrong decision
You can listen to anybody’s opinion
Some will make you more worried
So far nobody’s life can differ of their destiny
Sometimes somebody’s talk changes your destiny
Do anything but never start doubting [of your own values?]
Because only the doubt can weaken you



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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day Band influence Sonny Boy Williamson.

Although unconfirmed, it is believed today he would have turned 95.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Free Dylan download today only.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Peter - you might know the law firm I use

Dewey, Cheatham and Howe


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Good classic rock blog.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: so you wanna be a

Now is the winter garden of our discontent turned into glorious payout by this Sue M. Anne Runne... nice trumpet playing too, by the way.


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, I think I'm able to identify your " signature" breathing at the beginning of, So You Want To Be A Rock And Roll Star, because I hear it again on one of those Van boots. Hopefully it will be up front in the mix from Leonard's show and I'll be able to enjoy your splendid control on your third release. I've always said, whoever that is has the unmistakable breathing control of freakin Barbara Streisand, I'd always assumed it was the grande dame herself.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Ambient audience contributions

Luke, you’re right! I signed nothing when I went into the Winter Gardens to see The Beatles, and anyway, I was under 18 so it would have no validity. Fantastic! My people (Snippit, Grabbitt and Runne of Lincoln’s Inn) will be contacting The Byrds people with a view to recompense. I didn’t even get a credit, nor a free LP, let alone a CD remaster. My lawyer, Sue M. Anne Runne, is the best in the business. I still have the ticket as proof.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

the song which goes with it


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: The Band

Dlew919 : Thanks for the echo, some spectators pay their ticket

Lars : Please check out the link above



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Posted by:

Pat B

"In the Electric Mist"--the Tommy Lee Jones movie wherein Levon plays Confederate general John Bell Hood--has gone straight to DVD. Buddy Guy is also in it.

The remaining members of the Dead must be awfully hard up to appear on O'Reilly. Perhaps he's giving them free loofahs.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Analogue Studio in Notodden Norway. They bought the mixing console from Stax Studios.

Louisiana Red, Ivan Minter, just recorded there. A couple records back he recorded at Levon's. Vivino produced.It's on Severn. Chris Anderson, Nevessa Studios, drove his mobile truck into Levon's garage. Chris is a nice guy, and is a very straight shooter. Tells the truth about a lot of things, doesn't want to see anyone get hurt ever.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Chinese Food & Blues //Woonsocket Rhode Island

See the link. Soem good shows lined up for Arpil & May


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: winter gardens

Peter, that is an impressive credit on both counts (where you were and where it ended up). I trust the royalties were all agreed to everyone's satsfaction at the time?


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Posted by:

SLY

Location: CANADA

Subject: JEAN YVES LABAT

YOUR POST ON JEAN YVES LABAT SAYS THAT HE MADE ONE SOLO ALBUM WHICH IS COMPLETELY WRONG HE MADE FOUR AT LEAST HERE ARE THE TITLES; M. Frog (1973) Underwater Electronic Orchestra (1976) Transition #1 (1978) Touche (1981) HOPE YOU WILL ADD THIS TO YOUR POST


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Posted by:

Jean

Subject: Hey Norm

I check in everyday. You're sweet to think of me.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Recognition!!!!!!

Some people will to anything to obtain a little......even breath loudly???


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Live in London

Leonard Cohen "Live in London" comes out tomorrow, both as a double CD and a 5.1 surround DVD. It is the O2 concert I attended, and keen listeners will be able to appreciate my one twenty-thousandth contribution to the ambience by being present and breathing. Admirers of my ambient contributions often mention "So You Want To Be A Rock & Roll Star" by The Byrds, where the crowd noise at the start recorded at Bournemouth Winter Gardens at a Beatles concert where again I attended and breathed. There are several Van Morrison bootlegs where I've made a similar contribution.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Music from Big Pink "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Norbert

Norbert, I loved your robin story. We have 2 robins that hang out at our house (front lawn). They are very brave and don't scare easily. Our Robin Red Breast looks very different than yours.

The "doseman's Rick Danko piece was interesting. I believe that it was DFA performing.

I think Doseman had a few too many doses


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Posted by:

Steve

Mike, thanks for the link to the Danko article.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: RIP Wayne Saward, Woodstock Fest monument sculptor.

Wayne, the sculptor of the Woodstock Fest '69 monument, recently passed away @ the age of 52. His older bro wouldn't take him to the Fest when he was around 11-12 yrs old. May the good-hearted sould rest in peace.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: "I don't like the way sings, but I love to hear him talk."

Remembering "Spike Jones & the City Slickers" trombonist Harry Joseph "Chick" Daugherty who passed away 43 yrs ago today @ the age of 50.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Ricky Vito

Jeffo, Ricky Vito grew up in Darby, Pennsylvania, a tough little corner of Delaware County just outside of Philadelphia. I was born and raised just a few miles from there. He remains a local legend among the musicians in the area.


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: YooHoo Norm!

Still checking in....watching for your retirement and, of course, the CD.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Richard Manuel "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Link: "Garth Hudson signs autographs and talks about music in NYC"


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

link: "one of the last musical performances of Rick Danko" (at 6:36).


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Brien, thanks for lightning that up, makes sense.

Although we’re fairly down to earth people I must admit the thought “Maybe it is trying to say something” crossed our minds (only briefly). Anyway we called my mother-in-law, but all was well.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: And just one more thing (to remember Peter Falk)

Actually, hte title is to remember Peter Falk - the subject concerns Elvis Costello. I had cause this weekend to remember Costello's 'Oliver's Army' - brilliant song - possibly the best song of the 'New Wave' or not .. anyway...

Anyway, it seemed to me that acknowledged Band Fan Costello used a Danko-esque harmony in the last verse of 'Oliver's Army' (But there's no danger, it's a professional career/ the world coudl be arranged/ wih just a word in Mr Churhill's ear)

Anyone know? care to comment?


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Too much to discuss fully... but here goes...

Empty - 'Teh Message' is one of hte films in the Medved Bros book of movie flops - they point out that it is not about Mohammed precisely - Anthony Quinn (a very fine actor) plays a relative of the great man. Probably because it was banned in many countries (and is still banned, as you point out, in Saudi and Syria), it didn't make a profit for years.

Hey Jeff: as I've said, if you've gotta be a rat, be a rat bastard! :-D

Serenity: keep sending that stuff through!

Norm: as always, hi!



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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Review: Bose Desktop Speakers

In spite of the global recession, yesterday, Saturday March 27 at 7:57hr, just before the shop closed, I bought these little Bose laptop speakers (link). Expensive but they were on sale, got the last pair (they say), they're awesome! That such little bastards can produce such a lot of quality noise is a miracle on its own. They look great and feel solid. No need anymore for the junkfood plastic box on the floor. A tip for Band fans.

p.s. the remote control doesn't work yet (although that would be to much), still 5 ***** (the best you can get out there).


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Norbert - we've had the same problem but with a female Cardinal. Bang - Bang, bang against our bathroom window. It's seeing itself in the reflection and is protecting its territory. I tried trimming some of the bushes around the window area but that didn't help. I couldn't find the nest to get rid of it, so I newspapered the window and haven't heard from it since. It helps that the window is on the side of the house and is kind of hidden from view.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: garden
Web: My link

Subject: Jef

We're stuck with a very stubborn robin in Germany at the moment, it wants to fly inside day after day (nerve wreckingly repeat-jumps against the window). Googling for ways to scare the hell out of him, I found a similar story on the Dutch www. Although it’s low Band related I translated it to make sure.

'The Netherlands moved by reincarnation robin

If someone else would pass it on, I wouldn’t believe it, admits Bernard van Stekelenburg (45) from Einhoven. “And nevertheless I think that my father is reincarnated as a robin”. Seed trader Sjef van Stekelenburg from Eindhoven (the Netherlands) had briefly before he died proclaimed to his family and customers that he would return as a robin. Every day after his funeral a bird flies into the shop now. The story has reached lot Dutch newspapers the last days (and even the Band site). Last January Sjef died at age 67. He had managed the Genneper Mill in Eindhoven with his son and daughter-in-law Mary, a shop in flour, seeds and animal food. When he was seriously ill he told to everyone who wanted to hear that he would return after his his dead as a robin. Father frequently looked at robins in the park. It was his favorite bird, tells Bernard. “We laughed about it, but he was convinced that it would happen”. The day after Sjefs’ death indeed there sat a robin on the mill stone, exactly on the spot where the seed trader always reposed. “And he rapidly found his way inside and became more and more bold. The crazy thing is that not only we, but customers also recognised father’s character in the bird. Each morning it stands waiting in frond of the door of the shop till it opens. It’s incredible tame”. Or they Sjef, that’s the way they baptized the bird, give extra food in winter? “Sjef serves him selves! We still have the old-fashioned, open scoop barges from which he stuffs himself to the max. Also in this way he looks a lot like father”, says daughter-in-law Mary. “He also was hungry the whole day”. “We first kept this quiet”, says Bernard. “Feared to be laughed at . But this just happened to us. In itself it's a comforting idea that dad lives on as a robin.'

Anyway we studied and discussed our Jef a lot over here the past days, but doubt that it’s relative, although you never know of course.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

here's the right link


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

The Message - movie trailer


Entered at Sun Mar 29 11:43:39 CEST 2009 from (41.209.172.240)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Mostapha Akkad

Syrian film director Moustapha Akkad declared his reason in making “The Message” (1976) was to discover Islam to the Western public. Critics explained the success of this movie relatively to similar thematic productions simply by the fact that it was made in Hollywood, the soundtrack of Maurice Jarre is in reality overwhelming.
There is a wealth of movies with modest diffusion relating the beginnings of Islam, all focusing on the spiritual side as every movie about any religion should be. The particularity of “The Message” is that it rather focused on the jihad aspect, or that what I used to qualify as the Asian vision of Islam, added to the released date fitting the rise of Islamism ideology. Nevertheless, rarely in the history of cinema, a film had an equal visible and immediate effect of the mass, with or without Akkad’s will, the number of Guantanamo pensioners who got school in it being the living proof of my generic assumptions. Curiously the film has never been played in both Syria and Saudia [banned].
The only reason for this post to figure in The Band GB is, honestly, while from the beginning I linked the name of Akkad to some insidious propaganda underlying a hidden complot at the global scale, I learned random_internet_clic_ly about his death he and his daughter in the Islamist terror attack of Amman, Jordan on November 9, 2005
A certain Farrah Hassen, fellow Syrian who wrote an obituary, quoted¬ Bertolt Brecht

"Art is not a mirror held up to reality, but a hammer with which to shape it."


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: Metro DC

Hey Charlie, not sure about LTH . . . they are booked to play one gig that I can see on the "Red Beet" recording studio website (Eric's studio). In July, they are playing at Strathmore in Bethesda, MD. I'm sure they must be opening up for someone -- can't wait to see who. I'm hoping it will be EmmyLou. Last Train Home no longer has their own website and I know they were having some troubles finding a lead guitarist to replace Steve Weidemyer. Steve is really good but decided to go back home to Houston plus he was a little bit rock 'n rolly for their alt-country style. Now Eric is out touring a lot with Peter, so I'm not sure about LTH's future. Mr. Steve was going to try to get up the nerve to ask when we talked to Eric the other night, but never did.

We are going to the Wanee Festival in Live Oak, FL in June. Allman Bros Band, Derek Trucks Band, Little Feat, Drive By Truckers and others. Should be a (literally) hot time.

Westcoaster, don't worry - the girlfriends are around somewhere, I promise. ;-)

Hey Joan! Good to be here!

Jan F.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Subject: velt, not belt

Forgive me, that is Yemensvelt.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Location: yemensbelt
Web: My link

Subject: Poco Update

Aside from the Stagecoach Music Festival I mentioned a while back, Poco is doing some other California shows that will include founders Richie Furay & Jim Messina. The only other original member left is Rusty Young. Geroge Grantham would be in still, but a stroke sidelined him a while back. Doesn't apear as though he will recover enough to return to performing.

Show dates are liked above.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Rick Vito is the cornerstone of Fleetwod's blues band. Vito wrote songs for McGuinn , Clark and Hillman, and Bonnie Raitt. Was in Raitt's band a long time. Apparently Vito grew up on the pre commercial Fleetwood Mac. If i recall correctly, Surrender To Me was one of the songs Vito wrote that McGuinn, Clark & Hillman recorded.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Jan F

It is nice to see you around, Jan F...but I'm sorry to hear about Eric Brace. Is Last Train Home officially off the tracks now?


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Recent Rick Danko article from the Simcoe Reformer.


Entered at Sat Mar 28 17:56:37 CET 2009 from (207.81.196.79)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Where oh Where????????

We have Joan & Jan.......where in hell is Jean, Jaynie, Dee, Deb, Abby, Jo-Jo, Brown Eyed Angelina, Jersey Girl, and all the rest of those gorgeous wimmin. I'm very sad!

No Joan, it's not just an older thing. Although Linda and my marriage didn't last long, we have been friends always. At times through my life when I had other problems, I can recall staggering in to Marlene's place in the middle of the night, acting like a baby. Marlene who was a nurse, would put on coffee, some times lay me on the living room floor and rub my back. Quietly listen to all my troubles and add something worth while to say from time to time.

The world needs more angels like Marlene.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Mick Fleetwood

There was an interesting bit on NPR this morning with Mick Fleetwood discussing and playing some tracks from his new outfit: The Mick Fleetwood Blues Band. It will likely be in the NPR archives soon.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jan F

Nice to see you around.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Article including an evening w/ Bob & Sara Dylan, Robbie & Dominique Robertson, Cher & Geffin.


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Posted by:

Steve

Empty, George W took his first tentative step into the world of motivational speaking,( I know It's really, really hard to believe but it actually happened)in the one place on earth outside of a military base in the US where he'd be welcome, Calgary Alberta.

The shoe stores in town did a brisk business in shoe and work boot sales.

A couple of hundred people showed up armed with footwear to hurl at an effigy of the great man and insult the people who actually paid to get into the speech.

Maybe it's Bush's lack of command of the language or just low expectations of the quality of his thoughts that kept the price to a bargain basement price of 400 bucks Canadian.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Duraid Laham

Steve: houlala , the financial crisis seems to be considered more seriously than that I thought
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Duraid Laham, undeniably the best humorist the Arab world ever ptoducedd, over-talented with an atypical spirit with regard to the local standards, specialized in political jokes mainly targeting our leaders. I never really knew his exact nationality (he could be Lebanese, Syrian, Jordanian,…), what’s sure it’s that he spent more than the half of his life in various jails over various states of the Arab world for every new joke, some quotes :
“The Arabs can’t beat the Israeli, the latter have a better sense of humor”
“If Saddam really owned the atomic bomb, he would have already blown it up, no matter where”, commenting the wasted efforts of the IAEA investigators in Irak by the Clinton era

at 5:56 in the linked video, commenting the fact that the Arab geographical area which was once ruled under one unite banner is now scattered in more than 20 states, some of which make no more than 1 mile-square surface
“Now we got two Yemens, four Lebanons, more states will adopt the model, it is un implacable strategy of the Arab Leaders aiming to dominate the world by the number of voices in the United Nations”

Btw the Arab practice of putting somebody in jail for a joke seems persisting in the democratic era, as Munthather Al-Zaidi got three years sentence for a failed shoe throw, re-watch the video, he targeted Bush but he did deliberately miss the president of the USA, it is clear especially for the 2nd shoe, nevermind Munthather Al-Zaidi is henceforth considered an international hero, he will be more at the release date, there is even a giant replica in bronze of the 2nd shoe exposed in a city-place no matter where, it is a size 10 if the Swedish Internet Police is not yet informed


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC
Web: My link

Hey Ya'll,

Yep, I knew Mike & Kim would beat me to the Robbie-news-scoop!!! I found the Robbie's MySpace page last night purely by accident. They should shut down the old one though. He has FaceBook too.

Went to see Peter Cooper and Eric Brace a couple of weeks ago in Rockville, MD. Wish you could have been there Charlie. They have a new CD, "You Don't Have to Like Them Both" although Eric has been ill -- they thought he had MS, but have ruled that out. He still had a hard time holding on to his pick -- very sad. The link is Peter and Eric doing "The First in Line." I started to post their version of " Her Bright Smile Haunts Me Still" Makes me think of Norm -- being a sea-song and all.

Has anyone heard from Judy?

Later ya'll,

Jan F.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: The Dead

Wow, 3 times in a row. Just like old times, but it seems I've "scared" away other posters for now. SORRY!!

Monday, Mar. 30 on "The View" Bill O'Reilly (The O'Reilly Factor); performance from Bob Weir, Phil Lesh and Warren Haynes (The Dead)

xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Max Weinberg's son

LINK: Interesting for Bruce Sprinsteen fans.

Take care xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: More than usual [ You lucky guys????]

Link: From Rolling Stone on the 40th anniversary of Woodstck.

MIKE:Thanx heaps for the links to facebook. I'm on facebook a bit, as well as my family and friends. It's a great place to go and belong to. It will be great to hear ROBBIE"s music in the new Martin Scorsese's movie, "Shutter Island".

CALVIN: If the ROBBIE facebook page is a phony, it should and could be reported to the ones in charge. They will delete it. It has been done to some things already. They are a respectable place to be connected to. There are over 150,000 and counting. [this is an older figure].

STEVE: The retired Colombo is completely out of circulation. Reason: The actor, Peter Falk, is suffering from Alzeimers. I know you're only making funny, but he was a good character on TV.

KRISTIE: Yes, Sebastian was in a Gap commercial.

NORM: So sorry to hear about your former mother-in-law. Hope she isn't suffering too much. I send you goodies that I thought you would enjoy, but I'll lessen your load from now on. Same goes for you MIKE and DLEW.

On jazz music: I am so glad that I was able to meet and see a few bands many moons ago. I met Duke Ellington, [a nicer guy you'll never meet], Lionel Hampton, Jimmie Lunceford. Also have seen: Louis Armstrong, Gene Krupa and more. My fave after The Duke was Nat"King" Cole. Now his girl has one of the sweetest, most beautiful voices around. If only her health was up to par. The late Jeff Healey was a huge jazz fan, [but you probably know that] How do I know? As I've mentioned many times, he was the one who bought all my bros records, which numbered over a thousand. Not sure how many, but it's been said that he had wall-to-wall jazz records in his home. I believe that, as I know my bros would have taken a lot of room.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Steve

OK, David, I'll assume the poster is right, the rest is probably the repetition of a mistake made along the way. The one common thread is that every article mentions that the Filmore show was the same year as his Newport appearance. So I checked the BB King Live at Newport Album, it's listed as 1969. Oh What The Fuck, I'm hungry and suppers ready.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Aiyee - yi -yi!

Bob.......do something! I come home, make one innocent little comment about a story and another thread gets spinning. These guys isn't going to get in a fist fight is they??

NORTHERN BUOY.......AHOOOOY! I tried to get out of a tow I have to go and do. Leaving early Monday I think. I got to be back by Thursday, so I can get down to the mainland there on Friday, for our big weekend. I know if I don't, I'm going to be in a lot of shit.

Lorne, my brother called me this morning, and spent a half hour on the phone, "impressing" upon me how we have to get this done. How is it turning out for you in your schedule???


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, I'm the first to admit that the sort of confusion you create is well beyond any clarification I could offer.

And I mean that in the nicest possible way.


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Posted by:

David P.

Steve: Since Wolfgang's Vault acquired Bill Graham's extensive collection of memorabilia, I would bet that the posters and other artifacts were catalogued by date.


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Posted by:

Steve

David, if you look at the poster and not the date line above it, there's actually no year on the poster, just the Feb 26 date, I guess, as usual, there was no need to put the year on the poster. Maybe the 67/68 investigation should carry on after all. Bob?


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Posted by:

Steve

Web: My link

That may be David, but I'm waiting for the carbon dating from the lab. Just kidding of course, the info I got was from this interview at the above site. I've since found more evidence of it being 67, the concert poster is pretty good evidence on its own of course.

There seems to be confusion of which year it happened in lots of places. If you google BB King Biography you'll go to BBKING.com and there the year is also listed as 68. I also found 68 as the year in a couple of other places, a the beauty of the web.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Steve: I double-checked at Wolfgangs Vault and the date was Feb. 26, 1967 (see link to concert poster).


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Posted by:

Steve

David,The Filmore West, but 68 I think. Bob, I'm sending that one to you over at " The Late 60's Carbon Dating Center" for verification. I told you, Bob, if you don't get on this problem it'll go freakin viral. It may already be too late.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: the le cher

Bill M: verry interesting. No doubt the place is referred to as "the le Hibou" à la "the le Coq d'Or."

I noted with interest that the le Hibou screened _Viridiana_ at some point.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norm/Rrobbie's Facebook Page

Norm you got me all "misty" talking about your ex Mother-in-Law. I do believe you are turning into a "softy" in your old age. :-D

The Facebook thing is interesting. There are several "Band pages" Suddenly one of them contacted everyone and said this "Robbie Robertson is the "official" Band page. It is being run by Sebastian, but there are other people, like Levon who might take exception.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: B.B. King

westcoaster: I've heard that B.B. King story also and believe he was talking about playing at the Fillmore West in 1967, where he headed a bill with Moby Grape and the Steve Miller Band.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Facebook

Mike-thanks for the links. I have been on those sites a bit and they get some good discussions going sometimes, not quite as lively as here though. Wasn't Sebastian in a Gap ad with Robbie a few years back?

Bill M-I really enjoyed that link as well. It made me consider being a bartender so I can work at a live music venue!


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Shuffle Along

Finally getting into my own bed, instead of that little gawd damn bunk in my tug, I settled down with Susan on my shoulder, and watched some great musical history. Eubie Blake, Noble Sissle and a lot of great history. The birth of Jazz and more. A lot of very talented people who brought music to newer levels. The Buddy Hollies of blues and jazz bringing it all into the 20 th century.

Susan and I had listened to an interview with BB King on radio while driving one day a while back. The first time he played a show live to a white audience. I don't remember just now where it was. When he arrived, there were a lot of white folks outside. He thought he was in the wrong place. He sent his driver in to see. His driver confirmed they were in the right place. He set himself up to play. When he walked on stage, before he played a note, he received a standing ovation from a white audience of young folks. He cried, for the respect and admiration he received.

It's hard to try amd imagine the feeling many of those folks had to bear not that long ago. Finally having the acceptance and respect, after so long of being treated inferior is an emotion that must have been very difficult.

What a lot of great music to enjoy that many of those folks tried to get "out there" back then. I wonder how much of it, we'll never hear.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levon Helm's "facebook" page.

Has almost 4,000 members.


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Posted by:

bob w.

I've notified "Simonguitarfunkle" of the mix up. I see no reason he should suffer any consequences.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: The Band "facebook" page.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Close Encounters

Ahoy! Comin' ashore. Hey Lars, good to hear from you. You are absolutely right, and it's one of my most important reasons for moving to PR. To slow the work down.

It's not possible to operate a business like this, and just work when you would like to. People call you got to answer the call, or go with out work. Also to build up the business, to be able to sell the ship and barge at the end of the day, and get my retirement money out of it. The outfit has to be a proven producer. That being said, I'm certainly not a work-aholic by choice. I WANT to be at home, and out on my pleasure boat when I feel like.

Serenity; I read as many of your e mails as I can, you got to send them slower, 'cause you know I don't read too fast. It's always good to hear from you girl. I have a sad situation. My first wife's mom, who has been my friend forever, is slowly leaving us. Her kidneys are shutting down, and she is fading fast. My oldest daughter is beside herself, loosing her "nanny". So I saw the old gal about 3 weeks ago, and I phone her every week. I just had to tell her, if you've got to leave me Marlene, I'll always be loving you, and I'll miss you always. She said, "I needed to hear that from somebody." Well it's important to let some one know how you feel.

Dlew: I was gonna tell you, my Susan's daughter, and her husband, the Aussie, moved a while ago, from the south up to a little town further North called Merarrie. I googled it on Google earth. Some very pretty pictures up around there.

Well the CLOSE ENCOUNTER, was a tug called the "Island Providor" two young guys, not experienced enough maybe. Towing two barges, the tug a little smaller than mine was a little over loaded I believe. They were proceeding down Johnstone Strait, and at about the worst spot, a Nor' West came up to about 60 knots. For some reason, that doesn't quite make sense to me with a tail wind behind them the man on watch tried to turn up wind. The barges, with that wind pushing them, are like kites. They went by him, and dragged that tug under in less than a minute. They made it into their life raft some how, and were picked up on York Island by a friend of mine's tug. The barges, were "well anchored" by the tug, now on the bottom. There was a watchman riding the one barge, which was a camp barge. He comes out side, looks, and NO TUG. Dangerous stuff.

Jeff just continue on as if I was at sea, and be happy with your lot. You do just fine. More about music, when I re-adjust.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Robertson/Clapton shelved album.

Robbie's son Sebastian recently replied my question to him about why the album was shelved as many folks have guestimated that Robbie & Eric could not work together. Sebastian stated that @ the album's midway point, Eric wanted to dedicate more time to his young family & felt he could not put the necessary time to produce the quality album both he & Robbie were striving to accomplish. Eric will appear on Robbie's upcoming solo album though.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Best Year for Albums

I didn’t buy any of them in 1971 but they all came from that great year. 4 or 5 of my favorite albums of all-time.

A Nod is as Good as a Wink….to a Blind Horse – Faces

Long Player – Faces

Every Picture Tell a Story – Rod Stewart

Blue – Joni Mitchell

1V – Led Zeppelin


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: The legit Robbie Robertson "facebook" pg.

This one is operated by, or @ least w/ the input of, Robbie's son Sebastian.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Thanks for that very informative link Bill. So much to find and not just the musical acts that performed there. I am wondering based on the address Bill if that was the site that later became Barrymore's where I went to quite a bit when I lived in Ottawa in the early 80's.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day to the late great blues guitarist Johnny "Clyde" Copeland.

Johnny would have turned 72 today, but his life was sadly cut short in '97 due to heart surgery complications. He had performed w/ Sonny Boy Williamson.


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Posted by:

Calvin

Someone sent me a link to the Robbie Facebook page supposedly run by Sebastian as well Peter. Its clearly a fake and Im sure as soon as it gets to robbie's people the idiot will be shut down.


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Posted by:

Mike

The Capricorn would probably be his son Sebastian as he operates the page.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Not to mention the opportunity to blog with "Simonguitarfunkle"!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Robbie Robertson MySpace

Thanks for the link. Excellent news about the new album in the works. Nice to see the links to Richard and Rick pages there. But who's a "Capricorn"? Not Robbie.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Nope, Peter, I ain't met Neil. This guy is a way below even marginal figure. One of those guys very few people ever hear about, just people who have some direct contact with him. Has never released any of his recordings yet at all. And it's smostly original songs, some covers. I didn't write specifically enough. When he does start releasing, it won't be a box deal, it will be each disc separately, and he hopes to release all of them within a 12 month period. I heard some of his stuff, mostly excellent, musically and song wise. He was passsing through here for a bit, and some one thought we should meet. It was a good acquantance to make, but in terms of either of us offering the other valuable advice or assistance, talk about the blind leading the blind.

It's surprising how many people record good original work, that gets sat on for long times.Sometimes never heard at all. I have a friend in St Louis. Like me, a non performing songwriter, who has two or three discs worth in the can for a long time. All great, all recorded on tape, and has many heavyweights weighing in with knockout performances. Some of it is mixed. Has no idea when he 'll finish the other some of it, and mix, and no idea when he'll release it. Or at this stage, how he'll release it. Music distribution being what it is today. Shame , cause it's all very worthy, again , songwise and performance wise.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Robertson Myspace page operated by his son Sebastian.

There is a relatively new Robbie Robertson Myspace page operated by his son (& Dominique), Sebastian. He's doing a nice job & is quite responsive & up to date. Sebastian claims that many messages sent go right to robbie. We'll see what the future holds.


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Posted by:

Steve

Empty, NEWS FLASH, there is a world wide financial crisis happening, it is rumoured to have started in NY City with some possibly criminal activity by beautiful, rich and arrogant people. Sounds like a job for Columbo.

I hadn't realized Ramonet was responsible for the " Chewing gum for the eyes" saying.

I'll have to tell my friend, Vicky, where the saying came from. She was the first one I ever heard use the term way back in the 80's.

The Tobin Tax, which Ramonet championed might have helped keep a minor amount of control on the international money markets and kept Columbo in retirement, but you'd have needed the US to sign on and I don't see Americans, who see the UN in a less favourable light than most of the world, signing on to a plan to let the UN collect even a minuscule tax on foreign money transactions even if it would make the UN self financing, or more accurately, if it would make the UN self financing. In a completely spineless move our gov't passed a motion to sign on to the tax back around 2005 but only once other countries had already done so. Here, that is code for, "once the US has", which made the motion meaningless. What courageous leadership!


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: contact from the underfreeworld

Steve: Who are the NY fortunate arrogant ones? (out of the Woodstock area) – Seriously, all these years you knew me, you managed to confuse me with Ignacio Ramonet

I mentioned lately an anthological text of my composition in real life, “On Algerians And Money”, aftermath I recalled another line [visibly IR influenced] from it, worth posting in The Band GB

“The citizens are caught hostages by the Govt monetary policy from their birth, discovering for the rest of their life the improvised mechanisms to pay the ransom” [re-waw!]

I don’t really know if this is conform to reality, nor that it has a meaning at all, but I found it so well tied up on the literary level, and above all strongly The Band Connected, that I published it, somewhat the reflex I have by moments in The Band GB


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Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff that guy who's spent 37 years working on an 8 or 9 disc set sounds like Neil Young and Archive. It was announced again this year, Uncut did a track by track list and feature (again) then it got withdrawn. It can't be Neil that Jeff meant though, because it's a mere 32 years since the Archive project was started.

The best years … interesting concept instead of Desert Island discs.You'd could have various "personalities" on a show pitching for particular years. (Rob Brydon's sit com "Annually retentive" was a mock quiz show based on a year each show).

I'm torn between 1966, 1967, 1969 and 1971 and trying to narrow it down. Always forgotten, but 1971 has a lot going for it, with What's Going On towering as the leader.

I have a nagging feeling that "best years" have a personal reference outside the music, and the music complements it. How about people listing ten records making the claim for a year?


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The woods of NY

Subject: Devotion, American style

It's 0230, or five bells, and I hope ol' Norm is getting some sleep after ten days of damned hard work. You know Norm, I might be a little bit jealous of you moving to one of the best climates anywhere. But I'm not, because it's refreshing to find a man who busted his ass his whole life and now he's going to be rewarded for all of the bad storms and long days out to sea. My only question is will you allow yourself to slow down and smell the flowers that bloom year round in your new area. I have my doubts.

Norm, I consider you a father figure and I want you to think of me as your favorite son, in a very real and legally binding sense.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Dan Seals dies.

LINK: Sad news upon the death of Dan Seals.

DEE: You're welcome on CSI: NY. I've taped all the CSI's since the beginnings. Next step to make a collection of DVD's, but have enough vids for now. Just wanted to mention on last night's NY they used a new REAL procedure: If I may say this. [a little gross, but true] The machine that showed the intestines strung out to find an item in them is a new, but real. [Sorry] I get all the latest news on all the CSI's. Some very interesting things happen on these shows and in the actors' lives.

NORM: Have you been behaving? I see you you don't have time to answer my e-mails, but that's OK. As long as things are going well for you and Susan.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Friend0

Yep wetsocaster, apparently the same as many others here. Starting with that rat bastard, dlew.

I met someone the other day, broke your record. He's been working on his recording 37 yeasr , 267 days. Says he's finally feeling like he's getting close to finishing. It' s a little different than your 35 year cd project though. He's got over 90 songs cut. Going for about another dozen, and then he's gonna try to nail it down to 8 or 9 discs that he releases, makes available, all within a years time. Says he may have to do some EPs too, to make the groupings work.

Night folks.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Shocked??

I just got back from 10 days at sea. The first thing I see?? Just the same old.

Why should you be shocked at insulting a young girl. You do that sort of thing all the time.

Nothing to report.................


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Posted by:

Friend0

The state of blues music: Blues Wax magazines feature interview ths month is with Eric Heywood. Pedal Steel guitarist who recently beacme a member of The Pretenders.


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Posted by:

Friend0

I'm shocked by how so many of you could so ferociously attack and insult a young girl.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bob, better than that, it's on cruise control. Why, better, you ask? Less expensive.

By the by, I still think you should deal with this serious outbreak of 69 \ 70 confusion. Its importance is self evident. Think of where this could lead? Soon people may be saying, "Well the Beatles broke up in 69, or maybe 70".

The Mighty BUMBLES may even feel the necessity to return and intervene and put out these brush fires. Fuckin EH, EEEEEGADS! I'd have to have to start spelling poorly again.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bill M

The website....When musicians actually had places to play!!! Two things stand out: The Knack were around in 1966??? Imagine the coffee drinking beatniks having to suffer through an early version of "My Sharona".............Also, although I am glad to be young, I really would have liked to have been around to see Lenny Breau in his prime - just once!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: We're caught in a trap; we can't look back

I enjoyed what Rubin did to Johnny Cash, Neil Diamond and Glen Campbell, but no, I wouldn’t have let him loose on Elvis. We had a long journey today and listened to Glen Campbell’s 2008 one “Meet Glen Campbell”, then we listened to the new James Taylor take on Wichita Linesman. We reached Marlborough, our destination, where there is the best independent record store I know. I mentioned the new 2009 Glen Campbell Greatest Hits … and said previous CD releases were all horribly muddy.They said “Try the new one.” I did, and it’s fantastic. Glen’s usual loud bass guitar, quiet drums and HUGE orchestra works a treat. The originals beat the shit out of the Rick Rubin album. So, no, no Rubin. just “Suspicious minds” and “I Just Can’t Help Believing” exactly as Elvis cut them.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: One more thing...

Each episode of Columbo was a detective story in reverse. The viewer knew the whodunit upfront, so the plot challenge was figuring out how Peter Falk would unravel clues in each elaborate scheme to trip-up the murderer. His favorite technique to catch the suspect off-guard was to pretend he was about to exit the scene, only to quickly turnaround to ask "one more thing". While the nattily dressed wolf Kojak, with his lollipop, would ask "who loves ya, baby?" to disarm, the rumpled Columbo's "one more thing" was designed to lead to a "gotcha baby" moment.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Steve, is the farm now completely automated?


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Posted by:

Steve

Bob, can you deal with Luke, he seems to be confused between 1969 and 1970. The problem might be spreading. Nip it in the bud, bud.

Empty, your Columbo vs Kojak comparison tells me that Columbo is the man that's needed today though we'd have to transfer him from LA to NY.

Dlew, the National Geo article is titled, " Australia's Dry Run".

It's a lengthy article on Australian agriculture and the effect the 7 years of drought have had on the land and the people in what is called The Australian bread basket, the Murray-Darling Basin. The worst hit areas haven't had normal rain falls since 1991.

Tens of thousands of acres are literally covered in salt from the constant irrigation and fertilizing. I feel for the people who are watching generations of work being blown away. I can't imagine the stress of having a large herd of cattle, with little to feed or water them with.

It is an example of the incredible hubris of mankind though. Turning semi-arid land into wheat, rice, dairy and citrus production is asking for trouble and should be a warning to large agricultural areas worldwide.

South Western Canada, The South Western US, parts of China, Argentina and many other places that we rely on are in or headed for the same disaster.In the last year 1 million cattle have starved to death in Argentina because of the lack of rain.

The article mentioned that water was a problem in all major cities in Australia and probably going to get worse. That's what brought you to mind.

It's so bad in the Murray- Darling Basin, towns hold counseling sessions for families and especially depressed farmers or family members are being put on suicide watch lists. That's hitting rock bottom.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Ottawa club performances, '61-'75

It says a lot about me that I find the list at the above link to be the second most interesting website I've ever encountered. Still, check out the names (and don't give up)!


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: a good year

David (lew) I was thinking about years last night, which year would you take if you had to... I mean that five years 68-72 is good, close to the bullseye, but leaves out late Gram. Misses Surrrrrealistic Pillow. Misses out the Doors first album! Misses out on all those fantastic Motown singles in '65, '66, misses out on Rubber Soul never mind Revolver even if you can possibly omit Sgt P. Pet Sounds... so I don't know. It's the bullseye, but the 25 shot years are so good too. 1969 might be the one year, though... includes Elvis from Memphis too, it occurs to me. And Nashville Skyline? Or was that '70..


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Calvin

Is that the night Lennon was heckling while wearing underwear on his head or something like that? Or was it a sanitary napkin? From what I have read of people's memoirs of the time(Pamela des Barres"I'm with he band" being a great one for having the "inside scoop")Lennon wreaked a lot of havoc on the sunset strip.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Nilsson, Kojak, Columbo, TV commercials

I don’ know if Ramonet ever heard Harry Nilsson lyrics, but this passage is to be posted now or never
from Ignacio Ramonet, “Kojak et Columbo, gardiens de l’ordre median” (2000)

Kojak is a policeman who watches the low badly frequented districts of Manhattan. He has to deal, almost always, with s****** individuals belonging to national or ethnic minorities. During 116 episodes of the series, realized from 1973 till 1978, all the minorities of Manhattan scroll one after the other, reduced to one or two dominant, simplifying features: " Gypsies presented in traditional dress, living on predicting the future by means of eternal crystal ball ", " gangs of young Blacks that the scenario describes as nice boys in the bottom (they are not at all politicized), misled one moment by a simple hothead, soon regretted ", " Puerto Ricans playing tirelessly basketball in fenced public gardens "," Italians who exercise small professions and remain very religious ", " excessive Poles ", " nostalgic Jews ", " enigmatic Chinese ", etc. all these communities who make the American melting-jar. These suspects, often showing themselves, after all, innocent. "
The author of the scenarios and the inventor of the character of Kojak, Abraham Mann is a writer who belongs himself to the American left and militated for a long time in favor of the civil rights. He was the friend of the black pacifist leader Martin Luther King, Nobel Peace Prize, murdered April 4th, 1968, and realized on his life and fights a full-length film of three hours, "generous and informed", he is also the author of The Simon Wiesenthal Story ( 1989 ), film about the life of Nazis' famous hunter"
Columbo, him, investigates only in the elegant districts of the residential suburbs of Los Angeles. His affairs, they are the murders, never the holdups or the burglaries. His redoubtable opponents belong to the best world, take themselves for geniuses of the crime, and possess irreproachable alibis. In front of them, Columbo makes mediocre figure, with his old dirty gabardine, his worn out suit and his old Peugeot 403 cabriolet quite destroyed. Everything in him opposes to the look, to the elegance and to the imposing presence of his interlocutors. And nevertheless, it is indeed our small lieutenant who triumphs in every episode, in front of the mortuary of rich, beautiful, and arrogant people. The success of this series would come exactly from this identification of the middle class to the cause of the inspector, against the rich and the powerful who consider quite allowed the established order is so legitimized.
posted in both extremities of the dominant ideology, the lieutenants of the American police Kojak and Columbo, the defenders of the middle class, watch in length of series their respective borders. Upstream, side "cheese-topped dish", the lieutenant Columbo moralizes, stigmatizes, unmasks and punishes the criminal behavior of the cosmopolitan billionaires, fortunate arrogant, rich without homeland and without virtue. Downstream, side populates, the inspector Kojak orders, watches, normalizes, Americanizes the rise of ethnic minorities, groups and misfits. "
the American television series are conceived, upstream, to integrate the commercials: every episode makes 52 minutes, subdivided into 4 mini-acts of 13 minutes each (between which will be placed ads), and every mini-act possesses its own dramatic structure so that the suspense lives during the advertising interruption. Television series are produced on a international scale in an "Esperanto style", according to standards " of volapuk impersonal and automating film, among which the origin, the model and the standard are determined by the American trade, commercial, advertising customs ".


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Joan

Thanks for the link! I enjoyed that...that must have been the inspiration for the "coconut" video.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Ringo /Nilsson

I should have said"was Ringo's best friend," maybe not"best friends with Ringo." The only reason I thought that was because I was watching the Grammy red carpet stuff last year and Ringo gave a shout out to "my best friend who is up in heaven, Harry Nilsson. Love you brother." Quite possible Harry was Lennon's best friend as well, I don't know.

Peter V- Yes, I do enjoy that version. I almost forgot about it though, and I am not sure that is a good thing...I once read an interview where Dylan said Lightfoot and Krisstofferson are his favorite songwriters. The interview was given in the seventies, so I wonder if they would still hold up as his favorites?


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Nilsson

Rick, Levon, Garth & Robbie guested on Ringo's self-titled 1973 album, which also featured contributions from Nilsson, John, Paul, George & Billy Preston.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Kristie

I do like Nillson. Your link to Coconut reminded me of this "Nairobi Trio" by the late great Ernie Kovacs. A super funny man who died way too soon.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Luke m: I agree with you completely on Elvis. A folk direction may have meant less blue haired ladies falling over themselves at Graceland 25 years later but oh what could have been. Elvis by Rick Rubin…….Peanut butter and banana sandwiches is Rock n Roll….fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches is what Elvis became…………..In the Lightfoot interview, the interviewer asks how big Dylan was and Gord just chuckled and said along with Beatles and Elvis – the biggest of the 20th century………


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Harry Nilsson

Another recent connection between The Band and Mr. Nilsson is that new Neko Case CD featuring Garth Hudson. One of two cover tunes Ms. Cases tackles on there is a Harry Nilsson song.

One of my favorite lyrical lines by Mr. Nilsson referred to a couple of popular 1970's TV detectives: "Kojak, Kojak, Kojak, Columbo--sell me an Opel, sell me some gumbo..."

That line was especially funny since it appeared to poke fun at TV commercials even though Mr. Nilsson penned some himself ("Me and My Arrow," for example).


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: The Jam meet Gordon Lightfoot

Above is Paul Weller's take on Early Morning Rain.

Finally heard the Lightfoot interview on CBC - Q. Very enjoyable - just wish it had been longer as there were a number of interesting paths that were not followed up on. I liked that bit about Joni turning him onto Beatles by insisting he listen to Revolver.....


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Posted by:

Dee

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Robbie and CSI NY

SERENITY

Luckily I recorded last nights program but a great big thanks for the "heads up".


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: When Harry Met Robbie

You've Got Mail from The Band / Nilsson connection bureau: The b-side of Three Dog Night's hit version of Nilsson's "One" was "Chest Fever".


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Posted by:

calvin

I should be a bit more clear-if there was a "2cd Best Friend among the Beatles" for Nilsson it was Ringo. Lennon and Ringo helped him get a recording deal at some point in the 70s while trying to come back after a vocal chord injury, But John was clearly his closest friend among the fab four.


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Posted by:

Calvin

No Steve, you are right, Harry Nilsson was friends with Lennon although he knew all the guys. Nilsson had been in the industry for a few years as a songwriter when the Beatles Press Agent actually starting pushing his career and gave his Demos to the Beatles. The Close friendship was a later deal, like Robbie and Scorcese, as when Lennon and Yoko seperated for a while in the early 70s Lennon moved out to California and became serious binging buddies. They actually once got tossed from some club for being hammered and heckling the Smothers Brothers. Nilsson has some pretty good stuff, I picked up 7 CD Bootleg sort of compilation of few years ago. Not really a guy who deserves to be as forgotten as he has been.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Dlews.

Simply afraid to insult her.

Kevin, thanks. Without investigating, that climate comparison sounds slightly exaggerated. With good intent on your part. Like I said, thanks.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Steve: concern always appreciated - but why?

What was the issue?


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: correction

MDB, i meant M$B indeed


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, they played about half of Bob's version of Early Morning Rain during the Lightfoot interview, while it's worth a listen, it shouldn't be played shortly after having just played Gord's version.

Remember what they say about the 60's Bob.

Kristie, I always thought Lennon was Harry's buddy, but since no one else here has made the correction maybe it was Ringo.

Dlew, I was growing more concerned about you by the minute while I was reading the most recent National Geographic last night.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: 1959

addendum to my priority post below : the popular call it “dem sheba” (translate in “lion’s blood”) the secrete beverage which made that people a uniquely joyful race
~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~

Million Dollar Bash is a parody of a 1959 song by The Coasters “Along Came Jones”, a violent satire against the popular entertainments of the era, eponymous title of a 1945 film with Gary Cooper

and then along came Jones, tall thin Jones, slow walking Jones, slow talking Jones, along came long lean lanky Jones

MDB had a whole different message, awesome the things we learn thanks to the internet


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Posted by:

dlew919

Location: a time after these

Subject: 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972

I'm inclined to say (without entering into Boomer nostalgia - I'm genX - whatever any of those things mean) that those five years (and you could probably add 1967) were a form of 'golden age' - you can point to six or eight classic albums from these years.

There were other great years, and great albums in every year., but I don't think you get that string of great years before or since.

I'm prepared to be flamed on this: what does everyone else think? David P. would be my first choice to answer this, should he so wish!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Early Morning Rain

Try Bob Dylan's version from "Self Portrait." Much criticized, but oddly affecting. For him, it wasrecent chart folk. It had been covered by Ian and Sylvia in 1965, then later by Judy Collins. Go back to the 5 CD set of basement tapes again, and you see how often he covered Ian & Sylvia Tyson. He even persuaded The Band members, who in spite of being fellow-Canadians claimed to be seriously prejudiced against all ‘strummers’, to get to like their music.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: ROBBIE

Anyone watching CSI:New York tonight would have heard our ROBBIE singing, "Ghost Dance". Came as a surprise. He also sang, "Unbound" in 2002{?] on CSI. It is so easy to identify his music when you've played it a lot like I have. It's an Indian story so his music is the right thing.

Take care, xoxoxoxo Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


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Posted by:

krsitie

Subject: Elvis

I also really enjoyed the link to Elvis singing "Early morning rain." He really could sing anything. The only other version I have ever liked of this song(besides Ian and Sylvia's, and of course Gordon's is my favorite).


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Posted by:

Kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Harry Nilsson.

Any in the Gb a fan of Harry Nilsson? I have really been enjoying "Nilsson schmilsson" lately. What a quirky songwriter. I know he is Neko Case's favorite songwriter, and was best friends with Ringo but other than that I don't know much about him.

The link is for "Coconut" which was on a compilation cd I used to have when I was a kid(the first I ever owned actually). I think it was called "Sun jammin'."


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: early morning rain

Kevin J, nice link to a great Elvis take. At his best in the 70's - which was comparatively rare, often because the arrangements caused him to force his voice - he was as good if not better than ever before. That's before around '76 anyway - he's in great voice on Elvis Today from '75. He sings that song with great and unaffected tenderness, one of his greatest qualities as a singer. It was one of a bunch of songs that were loosely slated for an 'Elvis Folk' album a la Elvis Country. Judging from this, and his takes on Don't Think Twice and I Shall Be released (which could have fitted the mood), it would have been a cracker. And with that I claim Band links in the last sentence.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

"High Fidelity". Loved both the book and movie. One of the best soundtracks going plus they even managed to snag Bruce Springsteen in a cameo role. Also liked the Hornby book "About A Boy". The movie was okay but they left out the Cobain thread that was important in the book. I read a couple of other Nick Hornby books after that but they never caught me the same way. "Fever Pitch" the book was perfect for my cousin who is a life long Gunners fan. The movie remake had its moments but had nothing to do with the book at all.


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Posted by:

bob w.

It is possible that Steve is confused.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Subject: Pilgrim's Progress

I sat me down to write a simple story...

The Kinks opened for the Who at Chicago's Kinetic Playground on Halloween, 1969, so Ray's confused.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Drinking alone I guess!

Answer to Quiz: The Velvet's "Oh!Sweet Nuthin'" which gained some fame with inclusion in the excellent High Fidelity movie. Anyone else notice this???


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Did he disrespect the wrong man?

The details surrounding the purported touring ban of the Kinks in the U.S. have always been murky. It's been reported that they ruffled the wrong feathers at the American Federation of Musicians. Ray Davies alluded to a refusal to sign a union contract in an unrecorded song entitled "Americana", which he performed on his Storyteller tour. (see kindakinks link)


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Quiz Time

Listen to the beginning of "Churchill Says" and see if you can figure out which song it inspired by the Lou Reed & the Velvets. Hint: Dave Davies is the inspiration. Free beer to anyone that gets this!

Why were they banned? The Kinks were involved in a few celebrated on-stage punch-ups and the legend has always been that that is why they were banned from the US for a 4-5 year period. Something to do with a performance stage union and immigration....The Oasis brothers copied the fighting but didn't quite get the songwriting...


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Posted by:

Steve

According to Ray Davies, also a Q guest in the last year when he was promoting his newest album, he said the Kinks were banned from the US from about 1967 to70 or 71.

Brien this might be why you don't remember them touring much in the US. Also, if you know why they were banned Ray would like to hear from you because he said it was never made clear to them, as far as he can remember, why they were banned.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: going and coming

FriendO mentioned (a couple of days ago) the death of Mel Brown. The obituary in yesterday's _The Globe and Mail_ shows that the late Mr. Brown had a closer-than-six-degrees Band connection. See [my link].

Yesterday's _Globe_ also featured this believe-it-or-not snippet:

"The first volume of the mammoth and long-awaited Neil Young retrospective box set finally has a release date: June 2. One of the biggest record releases of the summer, Neil Young Archives Vol. 1 spans the first 10 years of his career from the early days with the Squires to the landmark album Harvest and contains a multi-disc collection of rare and unreleased material, plus previously released studio and concert tracks.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I have to say that the Kinks never did much for me. I didn't mind a song here and there but they never grabbed me. I knew some Kink nuts in high school who thought they were the "end all" but they never connected with me or I with them. I don't recall them touring the states much but that could because I didn't pay that much attention to them. From what I have read though, they seemed to have been quite the popular group in England.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: 1969: All This and More

"...and if at times my nonsense rhymes then I'll stand trial"

To the list of usual suspects I'd add a few more to my list:

A SALTY DOG -- Procol Harum
DUSTY IN MEMPHIS -- Dusty Springfield
OUR MOTHER THE MOUNTAIN -- Townes Van Zandt
ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND S/T


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: David P

were you alluding to the linked monumental song in my previous post, the intro is of course Bryan Hyland's megahit "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini" which was, it's well known used as a severe method of torture by the communists during the cold-war by playing the song to the tortured candidate repetitively with the vynyl record off-center to create a weird howling variation of pitch.... ~~)


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Give The People What They Want

Wow…..1969 was quite the year! I hadn’t started buying albums yet so it is funny how the memory works. 1975 - I could rattle off just about every purchase I made. Just like the Band, I worked backwards with the Kinks as the first album I bought was Misfits 1977 or 78…… finding that late 60’s stuff blew my mind. I read somewhere that the Kinks sold less than 25,000 albums in USA 1967-1975 ……………fast forward to 2009 and another quirky fact……at least at this GB - Medicare is apparently bigger than the Kinks!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 1969 albums

There are a few years when Arthur might have been best album, but in 1969 the competition was as fierce as any year you care to name. Three of my top ten all time albums were all out that Christmas … The Band, Abbey Road and Let it Bleed.They're all unbeatable. But i enjoyed the link.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: 1969

Was Arthur the 2nd best album released in 1969?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Mr Churchill Says

David P: The above link to cheer you up..............Such a great band.......

Jeff: The climate in Toronto is almost identical to NYC. Subject to Bill's approval...you're welcome here anytime..


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Posted by:

Bill M

A really nice piece that I heard on the radio the other day is "Little Camels" by Rabih Abou-Khalil with Jarrod Cagwin and Joachim Kühn. Can't find it on the internet, though there are a couple of less-interesting things by the same guys on YouTube. An oud-led jazz trio.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Groundhog Day Vinyl Siding

Seems like every time I come here lately, the needle's stuck in a groove and the same sour notes keep playing over & over. This is not music to my ears.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: A Man Who Knows The System To The Rescue

Brien, I don't think you have to worry about all the people without means accessing gov't funded health care any time soon, not with Rick Scott leading "Conservatives For Patient's Rights" who'll be spending about $20,000,000 lobbying decision makers in Washington to scrap any plans of extending coverage to everyone.

There's no question that Rick knows the medical system in the US, knows how to make or more accurately , take money out of it.

Rick started up and ran Columbia Hospital Corp. He speacilized in buying up or forcing out of business non profit hospitals that he liked to call," non taxpaying hospitals".

He liked to ask the administrators of newly acquired hospitals, " who's patients are you stealing?" he actually built up a remarkable stable of 1000 hospitals. Then the wheels came off. The FRI, armed with search warrants, went through the books and found double copies of everything.

The company was employing every illegal angle possible to rip off patients, insurance companies and the gov't.

Til Madoff came along Rick Scott's company held the dubious record for fraud conviction in the US.

In 2000 the company pleaded guilty and paid the gov't $840,000,000 . That total went up to $1,700,000,000. before all the civil settlements were paid out.

Yes this is the man to fight for what is right.

Amazingly when he appears in the media no one ever thinks of mentioning his past when getting his view on what Obama wants to do with the health care system.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Harry Houdini - March 24

Thanks for all of yours, Mike


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: ...and now for a living artist.

Happy b'day to our buddy Sean Joncas, lead singer & guitarist for the NH-based rock band Adria.


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Posted by:

Mike

Subject: Jeff Healey.

Jeff would have turned 43 today. He sadly left us March 2, 2008.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day to the late Johnny Burnette.

Johnny would have turned 75 today. Although written by Tiny Bradshaw, Johnny recorded the famous tune Train Kept A-Rollin', also later recorded by Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Motorhead & Alex Chilton. Johnny died in '64 due to injuries sustained from a boating accident.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day to the late great Rufus Thomas.

The Sun & Stax Records recording artist wrote & performed Walkin' the Dog, which was also later recorded by the Rolling Stones & Aerosmith. He passed away from heart failure in '01.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Lars -we all have those moments here in the GB pub..., so i raise a glass as well (well a cup of coffee) A Toast to you my friend.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

winner to winer


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: morning tune

Kristie: Thanks again, this blog is priceless, some photographs are inedited

I Once post it, but this the full version of Laurent Voulzy 1978 megahit “Rockollection”, the concept developed and the song (the intermediate phrases) written by Alain Souchon, actually it was a curious collaboration between the two mates, kind of winner-to-winner relationship, since conversely every megahit of Souchon was written by Voulzy and vice-versa
Very long (19 minutes) but worth the listening. Who doesn’t have the chills at any moment of this song should this flee this website, I meant what I exactly felt at 5:58-6:25, and 15:18 to 15:50


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: priority post

Lars: before resolving to any unconsidered stand and foolish decision you may regret later, I invite you friendly to check-out the link above for good news to all the American citizens …this is what I call a winner-to-winner relationship


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rambling stuff not touching upon The Band

Lars, I would like to have seen the deleted stuff too!

Comparing countries is difficult as they sit in different environments with different histories. France is kind of a popular one to hit both in the USA and here. Recently the Dail Mail printed a whole page of anti-French jokes, If they’d done the same about Pakistanis or Jamaicans, the editor would have been sacked, sued and prosecuted. And saying “in a spirit of fun” in the first paragraph doesn’t help much.

It all depends on where you are and what you’re doing. My niece, who lives in France, was comparing childbirth and children’s hospital care with my daughter who lives in England. If you’re a woman of child bearing age or with young children, France is definitely a superior place to the USA or Britain. The French pride themselves on having the best food, but if you’re a stranger on a limited budget, you’ll find better fare in Italy or Spain. On the other hand, I used to think New World wines were better value than French. Now I stick to European. New World wines have too much alcohol and too much oak too often. Lars’s Bordeaux is a better bet.

You have to go with the flow when you visit. I was in a busy office in Southern Italy once, and a man in his sixties brought in a bunch of flowers for his daughter’s birthday … she worked there. Fifteen people downed tools and had a long and involved discussion admiring the flowers. It wouldn’t have happened in the USA or the UK, but everyone’s day was a little sunnier as a result.

On chiropractors, the good ones never do sudden dramatic manipulations. The crap ones do. I’ve been to both types. The good ones (like the ones using the wedges Jeff mentioned) are extremely gentle.

Well, that passed fifteen minutes. off to work!


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: A friendly bottle of French bordeaux

I'd like to apologize to everyone for that last idiotic post. I guess I was in a bad mood. And I really do get pissed off when I think of all the "operations" the US military has been in and you can't even find a declassified document of them in the internet. So I brought a bottle of red wine, the kind that was The Band's favorite. A toast to the boys.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

On a musical note - Pearl Jam just re-released Ten. This is a tour de force record. Rock-n-Roll with all the spirit that comes from the youth of it's time! The simple edition, the one I'm picking up, has the orignal mixed cd and the newly mixed cd with bonus tracks - can't wait. If Paul Mc was smart, he would have done the same with Naked a few years back.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Lars, it's in The Band;s songs, ain't it? Wait, that's that "old, weird America".

History, and truth, ain't pretty. What starts out one way, can go another. Existence has always been a struggle, and peopel have always had varieties of motivations.

Think about this. A hundred, or two hundred years ago,. many, if not most of us posting here, proabbly would not be alive at the ages we presently are.

Mull this one around. U.S society has evolved into one that worships wealth. And what once were positions or professions of respectability , responsibility, and community status, have retained some of those characteristics, but have become synonymous with being wealthy. Being a doctor, lawyer, and banker (extend that to financier today) are such positions.

Many of the reasons people flock here from other countries are financial reasons. I've spent most of my life dealing with almost as many immigrants as (small n)native Americans. For a couple decades now, immigrants tend to be even more accumulatory conscious than many people born here. Wasn't that way when i was a kid . While Americans genrally have come to want wealth , or at least fancy cars and big screen TVs, etc, so has the rest of the world. They saw it on TV, and they want it.People come here, and want to accumulate things here.

Sure, freedoms are reasons people come here, but the ability to get rich or retain wealth here does matter to many immigrants. So, I may have a solution to gain us universal health coverage in the US. If we can sell the following demographic- the hardcases against universal health care that are also simultaneously people that want to keep America for Americans - on the idea that by socializing medicine and limiting lawsuits, capping bankers, stockbrokers, and financially employed people's incomes we could seriously stem the flow of legal and illegal immigrants to the US in half or more, we would have them begging for socialized medicine and the other stuff. And it might actually have that effect case. If drs can't become exceptionally wealthy here anymore, that right there will stop a lot of immigration.

There's more to this though.

Given that money and what money can buy has become increasingly important in this society, I suspect that to be able to attract potentially great drs to become great doctors, and to be great doctors, and to attract great committed minds to go into law and develop into great legal minds, to attract great teachers, and to get anyone to get a good gawd damn education any more (hah), without the prospect of unusuakl wealth, the society has to change. Obama is talkign about that and has for some time. but i have to wonder of that is possible at this point anymore. and what make me wonder is being in the street as much as iam, and dealign with peopel as much as i do. The level of speech, basic communication, at which the average younger person operates today is so impaired compared to the past. But the majopirty wants a lot of money, tries to act like they have it, and buys ridculous things. And what peeople think and care about is equally poor.

I really think that the society has to change for any kind of restructuring to take place.

Lars, i'm not about to tell you what to do, but i would never apologize for this country. The U.S . has accomplished a lot of good, and saved alot of asses in it's time too. So have other countries of course. The U.s still accomplishes a lot of good, just by being here. To think other countries haven't done similar or worse things on the side of the things you state you have some guilt over, would be wrong.To think that survival of a country is an easy thing would be wrong too. Ilm sure you know that. In my opinion, the rest of the world is pretty fuclking lucky the U.S. has existed. But again, it's all evolution.The hsitory of this world, is why the U.S has existed. Other places in the world being fucked up is why people flocked here, from the time of the pilgrims. People don't leave homelands becuase they are happy there too easily.

And the place the U.S is at in it's history, is part of the history of the whole world.

Iraq's a bad war, yes. It ain't the first war fought for bad reasons and it won't be the last. Would I like to see George Bush & Dick Cheney and their buddies left in the middle of Baghdad alone, no weapons? Sure. But, me apologize for this country, on general principles, no fucking way.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

It is a dog eat dog world. It's all Darwinism to some degree whether in social, financial, political, you name it. It was never fair and never will be. I don't expect things to be fair. You try to always be as compassionate, giving and caring as you can but you also have to look out for your own ass because there is always some out there who doesn't give a hoot and a shit about you and or your family. It's a delicate balancing act and the scales are different for every arena.

Steve - We all grew up differently, learned differently, perceived differently, analyze differently and for a very very few out there, actually come up with ideas and execute them into a working order - instead of doing what most folks do and bitch about about them. To say, just make something happen is never ever as easy as it seems. To just say a particular notion is insane, stupid, brilliant, what have you and expect instant change and implementation is never going to happen.

I have no clue about societies in Denmark, Norway, or France, no idea what their political methods and motives are - I don't look to France as much of model for anything. Any government that supports a system that guarentees work and makes it really really tough for an employer to fire a malcontent without having to row through miles beauracratic paperwork is not an efficient or viable policy. I have no idea about how those societies treat law suits - maybe they have capped payouts, maybe those people live in a culture where they take accountability more seriously. All I know is that here, if you start giving people something without any idea of what goes into it and or a sense of worth to a craft, a vast majority just aren't going to give a flying hoot - they're suppose to get it, they are entitled to it and they'll be damned if they care how it gets to them as long as it does and as long as they don't have to pay for it or very little.

As a very small microcosm example. I've worked a shelter that rotates to various churches. When the truck comes to unload the beds and other supplies and set them up - do the people who this is being provided for every lift a finger to help in any fashion - never. Nope can't be bothered - where's my meal, where am I sleeping, why isn't there enough toilet paper in the bathroom, soaps go missing galore, and besides, I have to text my friends on my new expensive I-Phone while chain smoking cigarettes, complaining and screaming at their kids. So you wonder why I get a little jaded, yet still do this work from time to time. Maybe I'm just up for some mental punishment. Now the only reason it makes it worth it, is for those very few that when they thank you, you can see it in their eyes that they are really appreciative of the effort being gifted to them.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Lars

I'd like to believe it was real. I'd also like to hope some of it can be regained.


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Posted by:

Friend0

steve, while it's definitely expensive, those #s you are quoting your friend jan on are probably not the real #s. And don't get confused. emergency rooms don't ask for cash on the spot. They ask for a signature. usually they never get paid, or they get some payments, or they get the what the insurance co pays if the person has insurance. Of course this ruins the patients credit, but that's a different though related, story.

Bill, I doubt you'll find a person, institution, or nation that does not possess , host, or even knowingly or unknowingly promote contradiction.


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Posted by:

Lars

Subject: the USA

I have some reservations about this and I think I can already see myself erasing it when I'm done....but I'll spew it out and see if it deserves to be in print.

I'm a citizen of the USA and it bothers me that I feel like apologizing for it. However, our country has caused a lot of damage going in where it never should have gone.

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I was right. I just wrote an hour's worth of history involving American military intervention. In the Caribbean. Russia. China. Over 100 years of covert and actually not that covert operations, and those are only the ones that I know about. But, in the end, you don't need to know. So I erased it all and put in some crosses.

Did "America" (with thoughts of patriotism and mom's apple pie and young men in uniform--who never came home again) ever really exist? Or was it all just a child's dream?


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Posted by:

Zzzz

You're right, Brien Sz... In the sport of survival, folks think they are "entitled" to make money from the blood and sweat of others regardless of whether or not they feel they have any real responsibility or concern for others and their communities... Something both the idealism of Evil Empire Communism and the reality of Commanding Heights Global Capitalism share in common... Eat or be eaten... I am looking forward to the day when my Hooters waitress is also required as part of her job to ask me to turn my head and cough...


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, are you saying the US was the only country around during the cold war, that the cold war happened behind some iron curtain that we couldn't see through? We were all ready to duck dive and cover or whatever else might save us from the fall out. It's kind of a strange argument for going slowly , really slowly on providing health care to your citizens.

If everyone gets health care why do people pay tens of thousands of dollars to insurance companies. You should just show up at the emergency room and demand care.

Actually I wouldn't advise it. Our friend Fran works nights at the emergency ward at a hospital in Hollywood Florida. If you have no coverage it costs $500 bucks to have the nurse look at you. If she feels a doctor should examine you and you agree of course that's another $500. Then she says if you're really unlucky and need testing of any kind the prices get really scary. She said they have a policy of doing one free nurse/doctor examination per shift as a contribution to the community.

Joan don't apologize, we're your pals here, share the good and the bad, share the music.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Dunc

You might try "various positions:a life of Leonard Cohen" I really enjoyed it and I seem to recall something about that story, although the details are foggy. This book delves pretty deeply into the spirituality of his work, and doesn't just focus on his personal life. It also is quite informative on all the other authors and musicians he is connected to(and this list is long!).


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Leonard Cohen +Alexander Trocchi

As somebody who still plays Leonard Cohen often, I didn't know until today that the Glasgow beat, writer and heroin addict, Alexander Trocchi, almost killed the young Leonard Cohen in Montreal after Cohen licked the 'container' which Trocchi had used for heroin. I've just reread 'Young Adam' again, but Trocchi's life as an addict is sordid. His undoubted intellect never reached its full potential.

Is this story true? What biog of Leonard Cohen would tell me about this? Any help?


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: David P

Yes thank you. I didn't make that connection, but It makes sense.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Good points on both sides, I suppose, but surely there's a contradiction in a country that is unwilling to involve its government in saving the lives of its own people, but is keen to involve the same government in threatening the lives of people living in a couple of far-away countries. War as we know it is socialism of a kind.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Brien, I'm with you on driver's licenses and home ownership, not so sure about medical insurance.

I also imagine we differ on how we consider the practices that allowed the cost of home ownership and the cost of renting a place to live to skyrocket. Mt feeling is that it was mostly fraudulent manipulations that allowed the cost of real estate to skyrocket.

I do believe people should have to work for what they get. But the ability to get things with what the blue collar income has been stuck at was rendered meaningless a long time ago.

Emergency room treatment in and admission to a hopsital may not be refused, but it can ruin a person financially. Unless you a re an illegal alien of course. And while I do sympathize with the plight of any mostly legitimate people who came here illegally out of desperation, I do feel they do not belong here, and do feel they are not entitled to services. It might sound shitty, but it's how I feel. give them services, it's more reason for them to brake laws to come here. I wish someone would get these people hip to Canada.

Actually, it's a good multilingual ad campaign for Obama's press corp to consider. What's that White Hous email suggestion address?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Before I get bashed on my medical insurance thing - just understand, that no one in this country is refused medical service in a hospital. Just because you don't have a medical card/insurance does not mean you won't be seen or treated - everyone gets served.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Kevin, you want the best drs possible here in NYC, for a brain or spinal surgery, they usually want 15 to 30 k up front. Sometimes you can get lucky, get in through a great hospitals clinic, and get a younger brainiac dr on his way up. My dad got lucky, had two of the top surgeons in Cornell Weill remove a brain tumor for him at the ocst of what Medicare or medicaid paid. He was old enough to not use his private inurance and start using medicare or medicaid, whicever one senior citizens get here. But he was unusally lucky that these guys did the surgery for that amount. And he got in through going through a walk in clinic at that hospital. He asked the real young resident he saw who she woudl want to opperate on her mother or father if they needed this kind of surgery. The dr made her suggestion, and offered that the other dr did come there once a month to the clinic. It went from there This was some time ago.

A friend of mine had a brain tumor last year. Met with some of the tops in the country, had it done here. Picked the dr he wanted, had to cough up 30k up front, i don't know how much he was reimbursed

Me looking into spinal surgery, I met drs I liked that would do the surgery for what my insurance would pay. They all said they dontl knwo what their hospitals would do far as insurance and cost go. I never investigated. The surgeon who is a slam dunk, the guy i really wanted, woulda meant coughing up 20 grand up front. For a variety of reasons, I never did the surgery.

Find me a reasonably warm ( by U.S. standards ) spot in Canada and I'll shine up my passport and come take a look.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

It may kill folks that we see things in a different light because that is our culture to a degree. An essential part of the American way is to be able to "make your own way" without government interference. You can say what you want but many living people who run things here still remember the culture of the cold war and the "evils" of socialist communism that we grew up with and how that was ingrained into us. The next generation coming into power will not have that baggage to deal with and so for many in the upcoming generations socialistic ideas will not be as anathema as it is to folks who did grow up with that particular social mindset. personally, I believe the more government safety nets you put out there the more issues you will incur and not for the good - let's face it, there is a significant portion of the population who want something for nothing and that number will grow when you offer them something for nothing. Then the problem becomes that now folks believe they are entitled to things. See, I believe we as individuals have civil rights (and we certainly aren't perfect in respecting that), we have the right to vote, privacy, free speech, due process and others. We do not have the right to medical insurance, we do not have the right to a drivers license and we do not have the right to own a home - those are either earned or privileges. But hey, I'm old fashioned on this.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Amen, Kevin. I always find it inconceivable that people in the USA still see socialized medicine as the route to Stalinist oppression. Go to Denmark. Go to France or Canada or the Netherlands. It's just normal, and you are all paying way more than we are without getting simple, sensible solutions. It's a no-brainer.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Killing them silently

The US gave me Get Smart, Beverly Hillbillies and Bob Dylan so there is much to like about it but it is just shocking to me to read that any country could allow for situations where citizens would have to pay for all or even a part of brain or back surgery. Imagine having to live in fear of getting sick with the actual sickness only being part of what is troubling you. A private health system in the US that already costs more than any public system in the world and more than half of the population still gets upset at even the prospect of change. Amazing……it’s like talking to a battered women….except these big fat guys with cigars screaming for lower taxes are killing thousands of people every day that they don’t know!!……………Notice how ‘liberal” was the insult du jour in the 90’s and now “socialist” is. Let’s just fast forward to “communist” – nowhere to go from there so eventually people will just get back to addressing each other as equal citizens……………..

Thanks Steve…….I am going to try and listen tonight. Dem


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Compare with your other Poet/Buddhist/Freakazoid pallies. Me, I eat the stuff.


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Posted by:

Leonard C

Landmark: What, you want that we should compare smoked meat?


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

the band 1969 (link)

Ilkka, my friend thanks for the nice words the other day.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Ah but Bill uh errh Leonard, you don't slum it at Schwartz's Delicatessen anymore.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Dylan & Mr. Earl

Kristie: I believe that photo is from the 1970 PBS documentary "Earl Scruggs: His Family and Friends". Dylan performed "Nashville Skyline Rag" with Mr. Scruggs. Other guests included Joan Baez, Doc Watson and the Byrds, who performed "You Ain't Going Nowhere". A soundtrack album was also released, but the Dylan track is rather disappointing compared with the other cuts.


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Posted by:

Leonard C

Landmark: As we are resident in the same city, shall we compare x-rays - or mythologies if you like - in person? I know this place by the river. Hey, that's no way to say goodbye ...


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Posted by:

Friend0

steve, you've missed and addressed my points simultaneously. Or perhaps you know that and are enjoying the conversation too much to let it die before old Norm jumps in with his political 2 cents. Anyway, the situation we are in is giving the current administration the closest opportunity we've had to start working towards the necessary changes. But regards to the other part of your post,regarding my allusion to a possible civil war, was not as you addressed. It was to point out that there will probably always be strong diehards and nuts here who will do evry thing they can to resist anythng that resembles socialisim. The likes of Sarah Palin could lead such a bunch of nitwits. Going back to work


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie/ medicine socialized or not

Great link! Does anyone else have problems reading white on black test on the monitor? I'm about to go take an Advil for the newly acquired headache.

I just can't get into it now, but sadly, I've become pretty much of an authority on our medical/insurance system. 2 major surgeries in the past 4 years. I'm now on Medicare. I love it. It's half the price of Blue Cross, covers a lot more without a hassle. Blue Cross paid $4000 on a $20,000 brain surgery. I fared better on my $25,000 back surgery, but only because the NYS Attorney General jumped in, and 1 year after fighting with them, they paid 80%.

I know several people with insurance, who have had to file for "medical bankruptcy". I've come pretty close. I'm clear of the bills now, but not a lot left in the bank.

Sorry. I didn't mean to go on like this..


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Posted by:

Steve

Jeff, actually you don't need a violent revolution. If you should ever read Naomi Klein's recent book, The Shock Doctrine, you'd see how drastic societal changes can be pulled off right under the nose of the public and there's no need for violence.

The fact your treasury is being opened to the banks and insurance companies is a current example in how it can be done. Create a panic, get the press behind it to help stampede the herd and you're off.

Then if you can create a diversion, something nice and shiny to focus the attention on so everyone forgets about the rip off you're home. Maybe getting the public to focus on one out of every thousand bucks that was fleeced from their pockets and play that up, that might work. Like everyone who handed over the cash could start screaming, getting really indignant about the bonus money or something. That might work.

See you don't need a revolt or violence, just an opportunity and a set of very large brass balls.

Kevin there's not really anything that stands out about the interview. He discussed how he wrote songs how that changed over the years and he discussed some of the inspiration behind some of his more popular songs. Just a nice flowing discussion. It should be replayed at 11pm either tonight or tomorrow, that's what Jian usually does. Give it a listen. Or you can go to their site and listen to it anytime on your computer. It would be much better to hear it from Gord himself. It's worth it.


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Posted by:

kristie

Web: My link

Subject: I am stumblin' upon stuff today....

This story probably isn't true but is amusing...some of it does seem very "Dylanesque."


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Thank you David for the further info and I can believe that joke whole-heartedly. Back in the days when wrestling was more regional, Abdullah was a huge draw in Quebec in the late 60's and early 70's. There he was, a big black man with a short Jewish man who wore a giant Star of David and carried a cattle prod as his manager. The perfect combination to draw blood-thirsty French Canadians into a frenzy. Especially when they would beat up on the local French Canadian hero, thus setting up giant paydays at the Montreal Forum and the Colisee De Quebec. Gratuitous Band connections, plenty. Transplanted Canadian. Worked many of the same venues and same territories. Also believed that the road was a Goddamned impossible way of life I am sure. And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.


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Posted by:

kristie

Web: My link

Subject: All the Dylan related info on the site

Scroll down to see the photo with Dylan and Scruggs. And also a photo of Dylan and Arlo Guthrie and what looks to be Dave Von Ronk performing. I have never seen this photo either, although I know of the performance.

Empty now-You are welcome. I am also curious as to what incident this was, and what members of the "unnamed hawks?" And who is bob fass?


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Kristie: Thanks for the link
the caption is :

In the early morning hours of January 26, 1966, Bob Dylan (accompanied by unnamed members of The Hawks) lurched into the studios of New York's listener-supported radio shrine WBAI-FM for an unscheduled appearance on Radio Unnameable, the weekly cavalcade of music and merriment hosted (then and now) by one of the great men of our time, Bob Fass.

can somebody translate for me please


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Posted by:

Friend0

steve, I knew you knew i'd point out the incorrect quote, and figured that you placed it at the top to make it even more noticeable to everyone. In fact, I'd venture that 2 out of 4 GBers (active or inactive posters) knew you knew i knew you knew i'd point it out. I did not use the word "that" in that sentence just to make it more fun to follow. The rest of what you give me credit for, well, no use in even asnwering that. But this is as good a time as any for old Norm to address you describing him as a socialist a while back. Maybe it only has to do with health insurance and small business stuff . All I know is he always seemed to rail on about you socialists and seemed to be awfully strong armed capitalistic to me. But yeah Steve, being a small busienss man, even being alive, would be a lot easier with easily accessible and socialized health care. It does seem that the US could be headed towards a type of socailism which woudl likely be a good thing. Of course, trying to implement socialism here could also be met by a civil war. You almost have to turn the country upside down afew times to get something like that palatble here.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Tell St. Peter at the ATL gate...

Landmark: I understand that Larry Shreve a/k/a Abdullah The Butcher is a transplanted Canadian. At one time the World Championship Wrestling organization was part of Ted Turner's broadcasting empire, which is probably what drew Mr. Shreve to Atlanta.

Along those lines, another professional wrestler once filed a lawsuit here alleging that he suffered a serious injury when his opponent in the ring deviated from the shooting script for their match with an ad-libbed body slam.

The old joke around these parts is that even those headed to the afterlife have to change planes in Atlanta.


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Posted by:

kristie

Web: My link

Subject: Great pop culture site

With amazing photographs, including one of Dylan with Earl Scruggs I had never seen before. It looks to be the "Nashville skyline" era Dylan in the photo. Perhaps taken in Woodstock.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: X-Rays

Landmark: Funny story about the insurance boys – they thought that wrestling was fake and derivatives were real! Give them $1 Million in bonus each………as to L.Cohen – I can never get too much information/discussion on him….but understood your point with respect to some of the more tiring stories……. Time for a Band Bite to give us something to talk about – our GB turns its lonely eyes to you Carole…... Perhaps an elected US official with a bad back or kidney that hums Hallelujah while contemplating whether to bring up “the feud” in discussion with his wife while planning that dream trip to Alaska to go aerial wolf hunting………On second thought….someone with a connection to The band will do…………….Oh and landmark only 500 or so days before the next US presidential election cycle kicks off! Reserve some space in this GB for Band only discussion – it’ll be tough to get in!

Serenity: Thank you!

Steve: I am just in from the cold and missed the Lightfoot interview……he is a fine and modest man I know…..but anything stand out for you? Thanks.


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, just one comment, IT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED, maybe not in the center of the universe but it has been out here in some of the orbiting debris . It works for us and most people seem to be happy with it. There are complaints of course but what system wouldn't have them?

Jeff, I knew you'd point out the quotation marks and almost removed them but then decided s to leave them hoping you'd point them out. No harm done, which I'm glad to see. I have to be able to wiggle if not yank your chain from time to time, after all you did draw me into this, which as you know I'm always happy to participate in. Thanks.

Peter as Bill mentioned Leonard will be on CBC's Q for an hour on April 16th. The Lightfoot interview was great, Gord is such a thoughtful fellow.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Max Webster advises Lloyds ...

Landmark: As a Max Webster fan, you must remember their song that went, "Forget that fear of gravity ..."


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Bad enough that the Leonard Cohen thread is alive and well. Worse, I fear that people will start linking their x-rays of various back ailments and comparitive payment plans. I think my favourite health insurance story has to do with Lloyds of London selling insurance policies to proffesional wrestlers, thinking that wrestling was fake and thus would make easy money. Once the policies were deeemed valid, every wrestler sent in their claims, collected huge payouts and created a shortage of performers. As I've heard a wrestler say one time: "Wrestling is fake, gravity isn't". By the way David P., I wasn't able to make it to Abdullah The Butcher's nor even a Crystal Burger stand in Atlanta. From the time we stepped off the plane, we had to race though Terminal B to catch the train to Terminal E, only to find out that they changed our gate to C-40 even though the big screen said E-37.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Jian Ghomeshi / Leonard Cohen

In the total coincidence department, in looking for a soduku to do in the lunch room I happened upon this long and gentle article by Jian Ghomeshi about interviewing Leonard Cohen. You'll find a note at the bottom about then it airs - on TV then radio.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: The Australian Model

Medicare: started off as Medibank, which folded. Medicare was one of the best systems in the world in its early days. Sure, there were those who overused it, but then, there were those who never used it

Fast forward 25 years: the privae lobby don't like it, because why would you use socilised medicine when you can pay $4000-$5000 per annum, and then pay an 'excess' (or deductible). It doesn't include dentristry.

Whn it gets down to it, though, the system was brilliant: eveyone got the same standard of (excellent) health care, and you paid a percentage of your taxable income. Now, they're trying o run it into the ground (though the new (ish) govt has slowed this). Still, Bill and Hillary came out specially to see how it worked...


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Posted by:

Peter V

Jeff, I've had treatment with the wedges and applied kineisology. The guy was brilliant and helped a lot. Then he left the area.

On music, I just got The Complete Motown Singles Volume 11B (second half of 1971). They managed all the other years with 5 or 6 CD sets, but 1971 they need two sets or 10 CDs. I'm trying to work it out. I reckon a lot of it is that songs got longer. I'm wondering where they'll stop. I'm hoping it's not going to be two sets for 1972.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Brien, as to choice, the GP doctor can send you to a specialist, and you can ask for a second opinion if you don’t like the first one. Many people have a private medical insurance top-up within a socialized system. If you have an accident, or a sudden heart attack, you’re going to be in the main emergency system whatever. If you want more choice of doctors or a speedier appointment for less immediately life-threatening ailments, like a knee operation, you’d use your top-up insurance (if you had it). The private insurance will also give you the private room etcetera. In a crisis situation everyone gets the best available on the day.

From what everyone keeps telling me, medicine is at a crisis point with the lawyers in the USA. Unless someone somewhere puts an arbitary cap on legal payouts, then doctors are at a point where they can’t do their jobs.

We have the same problem here with compensation where one day a police officer gets £10,000 for being shot and disabled at work. The next day someone gets £250,000 because a co-worker said something insulting. Or a paramedic gets six months paid leave and a sackful of money because the job he chose proved mentally distressing, while a soldier who loses both legs in action gets far less money. Both here and there, someone in government has to curb and regulate the compensation culture. If you’re the one seeking compensation, it’ll seem unfair, but in the end there’s no choice. People can’t have unlimited payouts. In Medieval England they had a set system, say a farthing for losing a finger, a penny for a hand, twopence for a foot, five pence for a testicle etc. It will always be “wrong” in individual cases but I can’t see any other way. And sadly, I don’t think you can pay people because someone called them an arsehole. That’s life.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Been told a long time ago...

Just read the news today that the great New Orleans musician, songwriter & producer Edwin Bocage a/k/a Eddie Bo passed away last week. He co-wrote the classic "Slippin' and Slidin'" that Little Richard adapted from his recording which was originally entitled "I'm Wise".


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Posted by:

Friend0

steve, you applied quotes to words i did not type.

Peter, i agree that the practicioner has a lot to do with how he applies the treatments he knows. but, what this guy i went to does , few chirpioractors ever study in depth. Sacral occipital techniques are placing upholstered wedges under different portions of the sacram, testing with kinesiology to see how weak or subluxated the patient is in that spot. The wedge adjusts the body. Then the operator tests,a gain using kinesiology ( the patient puts out an arm or a finger and tries to resist pressure. When you are adjusted in that spot, he moves the wedge to another. This guy would do that to me for an hour and a half to two hours before even trying to adjust me once man ually .Prooably adjusted 8 to a dozen spots under my back with different size ansd shape wedges. Then craniopathy. then he would adjust another spot, then more craniopathy(19 fellows in the world back then, he is one), then the occiput adjustment. Then some other stuff, then he'd hit me once or twice with an uncompouterized hammer, possibly a predecessor to that one steve likes so much.) (might have 4 rooms goign at once)Then something else. what works for one person steve, doesn't have to for another. chirporactrs who tried to adjust me, or chirporactors who tried to use mostly machinery on me, caused em a lot of various typoes of physical suffering back in the 80s and earely 90s. One guy finally didn't hurt me, but could't help me. said he knows who could. sent me to this guy. I won't mention his nam e here, but his first name is Vinny and his full name is more appropriate to someone who breaks bones rather than heals people

I agree Peter, car seats are a big issue. There might be three or four vehicles i can sit in the drivers seat of for more than two minutes. Show me a Lumbar support, even retracted, I have to walk. Yes, i;v e been told about feldenkreis, thanks for suggesting it. Heat, yes, no way, my back responds better to cold packs than heat.

NO, I;m not gaainst socialized medicine if implemented properly. I just don't see it happening easily here.

Steve, nooone forces anyone to go into business for themself. Most people who do go into certain kinds of business here usually know they either have to have boatloads of money or work too many hours. It's that simple. I don't look at workign that many hours as a good way to live either, but in certian fields for some reasons has been a fact here for many years. It also has to do with what requirements a owner places on himelf, the tyoe of busienss he wants to rpactice and how he feels he will deliver on his obligatiosn and how much he wants to earn. Before Brien responds rightfully that many freelancers don'tl necessarily work long hours, i'll just say many also do. but sonmeoen who freelances in the right field, after a while, may get by nicely on 30 hours. But that is different than runnign many kinds of businesses here, especially when equipomentm, offices, insurances, and the need to hustle up busieness and advertise are involved. And of ocurse, there a re very many successful businesses where the owner ardly ever works at all. But we ain't talkign about those companies.

The end of capitalism would be a good opportunity Peter, btu i dontl think it has ended here.

Brien,I;d guess you;d agree there does have to be a way to sue for malpractice. saying I;m sorry is not goign to make all drs practice ethically or well. Lawyers out to gorge are a problem though. I;m no fan. Inurance cos are in the middle of it allSteve, btu that is where the evolutionary process in this country has placed them. Again, for every brilliant dr there has been a brilliant business schemer or brilliantly scheming lawyer. Can it get worked out positively, I hope so.

Steve, the way this country developed, it all devleoped together. You donlt get one thign with out another thing sometimes, and right now we got it all as we have it. Advances in medicine grew simultaneously with the advances in ways people could make money on insurance and on lawsuits here.

Sure health care makes everyone life easier. But we don'tl have socialized medicine yet here. and what I'm saying is it;s gonns be awful hard to get it. or another kind of universal healthcare system. Like i once said, it seems to me that people are not fleeing this country in droves to move to canada to get socialized medicine yet. And all i can think of, judging from my own reasons, is all that fucking snow. Shit, I wouldn't even move to Minneapolis, Vermont ot Maine if they had socialized medicine. Too fuckign cold,and too much snow.You can add Michigan, Montana, Idaho, and a few other places to that list. Georgia, Alabama,Carolinas some othe r places, I;d deal with the accents, the heat and the KKK to get socialized medicine. Texas, Oklahome, nah. The air smells like oil, I can't breath there.

While I rememebr Steve, if Canada woudl take some of the illegal aliens we have here off our hands, and provide them with socialized medicine, I would certainly be grateful.

And a ssomeoen who has soent a ton of money on goign to drs and paying for tests, and only gettign any resolution with respitatiory issues, never with any other, yeah, I really would have preferred a free ride. It don't exist here yet. It ain't gonna happen easily. Goona take a lto fo kicking and screaming. does Canada have any warm places, Steve? Pastrami maybe?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Steve I'm sure there are many good aspects of socialized medicine but you know there are going to be hosts of arguments against it. If it was as rosy as you make it seem, it would have been implemented. Under a socialized system, how is the malpractice aspect handled? Are there high rates of lawsuits or does the government put their foot down on what can and can't be sued over? You figure a way to curb malpractice suits and bring down the premiums on doctors liabilities, then you will see costs to the consumer fall - until then, there is no magical solution. In fact, I would bet, if socialized medicine can't solve these issues, then the weaknesses of the system will be exploited by lawyers as a new avenue of revenue source as it is a new dawn for precedents to be set and another gold mine found in the mountain.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: And That's all I have to say about that

Seems to me the problem I hear most about from US relatives and friends is that the insurance companies are as big a factor in the medical system as doctors. They're right in the middle of it. From what I understand GP's who want to send you to have tests done have to first call the insurance company, clear what tests they'll cover and then send patients to the specialists they recommend. Maybe I'm wrong about that Brien but it's a complaint I hear frequently.

Here the GP sends you to have whatever test they think is necessary and you have it done where you want, there are lots of choices.


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Posted by:

Steve

That's a common misconception Brien, you see the doctor you want to see. They're all part of the program. False assumption number two; Montreal and Toronto are two of the most ethnically diverse communities you'll find anywhere and it doesn't seem to be a problem. The part about being limited in choice of doctors seems to be perpetuated by the medical/insurance industry in the US.

When my sister in law that is a radiologist was doing her schooling it was during the priod when the Clinton's made a feeble attempt to get single payer health care in the US.

Marge's sister, Michele, kept calling us with questions about our system because of things that she was being told by instructors and administrators where she was studying.

The question of us being free when it came to the choice of doctors was one they wouldn't accept.

I remember Michele calling us back a second time after we'd explained it wasn't the case.

She wanted to be sure we were sure about being able to choose. Some beliefs are just too hard to give up I guess.

Here's my experience with choice. When I had to have heart surgery, my brother in law who is in the cardiac business in NH, asked the surgeons he works with who'd they recommend in Quebec. They seem to know each other quite well in the cardiac field and they recommended a surgeon in Montreal at The Royal Victoria Hospital.

I could have had the surgery in Sherbrooke but they recommended this surgeon in Montreal because he's a leader in the field in North America in valve reconstruction. So I went to him. Simple as that.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Al Mashriq - continued

Lars & Peter V, Seriously a The Band hint in every posted post

Did anyone ever heard about a concert of The Jim Weider Band in Amman, Jordan, circa 1996, I just remember some shocking comments he said after, about “what do you expect from playing Rockabilly to that crowd…” ….or something in the

I’ve read on local magazine this morning a 5* review for the new album of U2, “No Line On The Horizon” (Interscope), seemingly a tribute album to my world

Last track: “Cedars Of Lebanon”

Yesterday I spent asleep
Woke up in my clothes in a dirty heap
Spent the night trying to make a deadline
Squeezing complicated lives into a simple headline
I have your face in an old Polaroid
Tidying the children’s clothes and toys
You smiling back at me I took the photo from the fridge
Can't remember what Emily did
Haven't been with a woman, it feels like, for years
Thought of you the whole time, your salty tears
This shitty world sometimes produces a rose
The scent of it lingers but then it just goes
Return the call to home

The worst of us are a long drawn-out confession
The best of us are geniuses of compression
You say you're not gonna leave the truth alone
I'm here 'cause I don't wanna go home
Child drinking dirty water from a riverbank
Soldier brings oranges he got out from a tank
Waiting on the waiter, he's taking a while to come
Watching the sun go down on Lebanon
Return the call to home

I got a head like a lit cigarette
Unholy clouds reflect in a minaret
So high above me, higher than everyone
Where are you in the cedars of Lebanon?
Choose your enemies carefully, 'cause they will define you
Make them interesting 'cause in some ways they will mind you
They're not there in the beginning but when your story ends
Gonna last with you longer than your friends

Band Connection: The album Cover of U2’s “No Line On The Horizon” fits the mood of my “best of” collection


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Steve McQueen: people eiher loved him or hated him...

Like someone else he once had dinner with... :-D. Link is from The Onion: some of you might enjoy it.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

There are no laws that I'm aware of (for small business) that require employers to provide medical benefits. You can set your business practice up where you contract independent free-lancers who have to provide their own medical insurance. Or you can do what a lot of companies do for certain lvels of work - hire a few people to work less than 36 hours a week.

For all that can be touted about socialized medicine, there area going to be boatloads of arguments against it as well (i've heard some good ones but not well enough to paraphrase here) - personally I don't know enough about it to offer much for the discussion. But socialized medicine seems to remove my choice of who I would like to see and I don't want that. No one ever gets turned away in this country for medical care anyway. If there was a tier of medical care where if you fall under X amount of dollars per year you can fall under some sort of umbrella of socialized care but I'm sure there would be a myriad of faults and problems with that. I also don't think socialized programs work in very large, diverse societies as there are too many cultural nuances to deal with - plus then there is the whole lawyer thing and dimwitted lawsuits that have been let through that have sapped the spirit of the medical profession to its bone. Again - a lot of this comes back to an issue I've railed on about for years - accountablility. If people could own up to their own actions (especially the stupid actions) there wouldn't be as big of a mess as this.


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Posted by:

Steve

Jeff, instead of going in to all the details pro and con I'll just address the first point you made. "The country that doesn't give them health care does give them the chance to have their own business".I'd say if you have the health care it makes it easier to be a successful small business. We have both.

I can't talk about most small businesses but I can give you a quick comparison in a field I do know,

We have the same climate and soil as the beef farmers a half hour drive south of us in Vermont. Here you can make a living ( just) on a family sized farm and in northern Vermont they can't. If I had to come up with 8 to 10 grand for insurance every year we couldn't do it here either. I don't look at working 70 to 80 hours a week as living. I have to do it for about 6 weeks in June and July, I wouldn't do it year round. Those are slave hours or the hours that people were forced to work before workers started winning rights and a living wage from the man.

Peter driving machinery like tractors with a clutch, especially one with a loader where you're constantly changing gears and changing from forward to reserve will do nasty things to your lower back and left knee. I'm getting choro work done as well and it seems to be working.

All the work is done with a little computerized hand held hammering\impact tool that is supposed to move the vertebrae back into place. Takes 15 minutes, costs 35 bucks ( $27 is refunded by our insurance company, so it costs me $8)and is more reassuring than having someone twisting and snapping your spine.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Lars, the effort to keep things Band related are ones I applaud, but I'm going to diverge and answer Jeff

Jeff, I’ve found with chiropractic, osteopathy, Feldenkrais, Alexander etc it’s not the system so much as the individual applying it. Most experienced practicioners develop their own systems along the way, and what they’ve got after twenty years can’t be learnt. I’ve known one “magic” osteopath, three “magic” chiropractors” and one “magic” Feldenkrais practicioner. Seriously, I’d seek out a Feldenkrais practicioner and give it a try. They’re non-intrusive, less so than the others. New York has more than anywhere. I had two years of physio, osteopathy, chiropractic on my knee with some impovement, but nothing major. A surgeon was suggesting replacement. Two things helped. First my chiropractor said, ‘Before you replace your knee, replace your car. It often works. Switch from a saloon to a SUV where you’ll be sitting up straight Many knee problems start at the gas pedal.’ (Amazingly simple but good advice). Then I had just three one hour sessions of Feldenkrais in November. Now I’m back from limping to walking normally with mild twinges.

Incidentally, years ago, I went to an osteopath with low back problems. He started working, and said "Do you drive a SAAB or a Volvo? You've got Swedish car back." In those days, the only cars that offered heated front seats in the UK were SAAB and Volvo. He explained that on a long journey, a heated seat relaxed your back muscles to its shape, Then you stood up after the journey and wondered where the back pain came from. Now many cars have the option of heated seats. Never use them.

But on socialized medicine, isn’t the USA the only first (or second, i.e. ex communist) world country that doesn’t have it? It isn’t the end of capitalism or opportunity. Germany, France, Netherlands, Scandinavia, the UK … we all got along for sixty years with it. Systems differ … Germany & France, I know, are way better than the UK in results and patient satisfaction. That’s because we have a government of bureaucrats who thought putting a lot more money into health meant employing more bureaucrats rather than doctors and nurses. But on the whole, the system works in all of the industrialized world. Most Europeans would consider socialized medicine a basic mark of civilisation and a basic human right. The right wing here, the Conservatives, have supported socialized medicine since the mid fifties. I can’t think of anywhere in Europe where a party says “let’s get rid of it.”


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Band Trivia

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

Bashful Bill-

I started asking Band trivia questions because a few days ago I promised to start talking a little bit more about The Band.....the group of musicians this site is dedicated to? Anyway, yes--Rick did reply to the judge's question with that answer over the 1 1/4 oz. of heroin in question. And the judge flipped. Rick almost blew his suspended sentence. Anybody who wants to read eyewitness accounts of Rick's trial can find a number of them in the archives of this GB, under July 1997.

Bill, this puts you in TBGB Hall of Fame with Gopher Rollins and Gen John Wayne.


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Posted by:

Friend0

forgot to say, one treatment with the chiropractor dont do the trick. And without hooking you up to a expensive diagnostic machine, he don't touch you if he ain't seen you in a while.Right now I don't have what it would take for him to get me straightened out. So yeah, believe me, i'd like socialized medicine.

As rich as the US was, if politicians had wanted to act on all this before, we could have zero poverty,and universal health coverage. But, the guys who ran or run things, killed guys like Bobby Kenendy and Martin Luther king who m,ay have led us towards that kind of society. Okay, so we have another shot now,. but it is a long shot, and it ain't gonna happen fast. No matter what you or I wish Steverino. Ain't no easy solutions. The chiropractor i;m talking about likes his mercedes, lincoln, sports cars, his kids liek thier cars, his house on the beach, and other house on another beach, and time shares. Noone is gonna give that up easily.

And everything is evolutionary. All we are, is at a point in the evoultion of the USa nd the world. Who says things go in straight lines?. Ain't no straight lines. And yes, I;ve already written that song.



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Posted by:

Friend0

steve, it's just a conversation. it's easy to point fingers. But the same system that didn't give your brother in laws universal health insurance is the same system that gave them the opportunity to go into business in the first place.

working for yourself, either you go in with big bucks or you got to be willing to work 70 to 80 hour weeks for a long time. To pay for shit. That's just how it is.

I can't imagine your brother in law being required to have medical insurance for his employees. Maybe if they were union. Maybe , I don't know. I can imagine him having to have workman's comp. With employees there is no way around it. In most states you can declare yourself a one employee corp, waive comp on yourself if you want to avoid the expense or hassle,pay your workers as subs, and they can get their own comp or they can get waivers too. Everyone becomes a sub, and noone has comp. It sucks. And most customers want to see comp certificates. but in many trades most guys work without comp. Often the reason is as much the hassle as the expense. I remember when i used to get audited regualrly, if i owed a grand the guy said i owed three grand. Then it took 3 days at the comp office to straighten it out.

Again, there is a lot wrong with the system.And there is a lot that could be better with my insurance plan too.I'm just glad i have coverage. Even if i often have to lay out the fees.Many of the better practicioners don't usually want to wait . So with my policy they'll help me get reimbursed, but I gots to cough up. Not for tests though. Anyway, there have been times i've needed treatment I couldn't go for the things that i knew would work. The only chirpiorctor i trust anywhere is right here, a few miles away. approximately three hour treatment with him runs 150 to 300 (sacral occipital techniques then craniopathy, then adjustmnents). My insurance coverage for chiropractic is almost nil. Years ago, when i had plenty of dough, I went. These days it ain't in the cards, so I suffer. My wrist is killing me like nobody's business.It's a neural thing, i;ve been told it stems form my cervical disc situation. Next week I need to use a hammer drill and hammer most of the week. The chiropractor woudl get rid of the wrist pain, he's done it before. but my dog's health care been keeping me broke, so it ainlt happening. the chiropractor lives in a palace. I;ve worked on his home. Mutlimillion dollar property on the beach over the bridge overhere. Has a kitchen that must a cost 50k 20 years ago, that they never use. Has another kitchen in the basement that they use all the time. But he don't do charity work, or work and let you owe him. just don't happen. Unfortunatley, he doesn't need my services now or we could barter. Now here;s a guy that know sho wto do things that most chirpirctors don't know how to do, and don't want to know how to do. I'd been thru the mill, this gy is unusual. In a socialized system who decides who gets to the go the exceptional practicioner?

Like I said, no easy answers.

socialized medicine can't be a picnic either. There has to be ways built in that reward better doctors. Money is one way. yes greed is a problem.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Lars

Rick said to the judge something like" Likely I would have done it all immediately". Wow - has it really been 12 years? &, just curious - what made you ask such a question?


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Steve McQueen

MIKE: Just came across this in my e-mail news. Thought you may be interested in reading it.

xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Dave Letterman

In my last post, it should have been David Carradine, not Cassidy.

KEVIN: Here's a few musical guests this week on Dave's show.

Monday: Bloc Party

Tuesday: White Lies

Wesnesday: Jesse Harris w/ Norah Jones

Thursday: U2 & Friday: Lyle Lovett & John Hiatt [repeats] Shocking news

LOS ANGELES - David Letterman said he and longtime girlfriend Regina Lasko had a bumpy trip to matrimony last week. During a taping Monday of CBS's "Late Show," Letterman said he and Lasko married March 19 at the Teton County Courthouse in Choteau, Mont., but only after their truck got stuck on a muddy road.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo



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Posted by:

Steve

That's true about McQueen, Mike, but I think that chicken, Ginger, in Chicken Run, did a pretty damn good Mc Queen impersonation.

Jeff I'll get back to you in the morning, Steve the Younger is here drooling on me he has to MSN with his woman.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Steve McQueen's b'day tomorrow.

The king of cool would be turning 79 tomorrow. He passed away from mesothelioma (asbestos based cancer) in '80. Levon Helm has stated that Robbie Robertson had dined w/ McQueen. You either loved or hated McQueen. He could be very philanthropic or a menace. One thing is for certain...love him or hate him...he rocked his film & tv parts. His eyes peered through his eyebrows. We read the Christopher Sandford bio on McQueen...a very good read for McQueen enthusiasts. An actor such as McQueen only comes once in a lifetime.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Steve, the system ain't good, and I'm not about to defend it. But both of your brother in laws cases are very mild and they are both very fortunate to have gotten out of their own lines and get good jobs right away at ages young enough and in good health. And when the economy was good. And they obviosuly both have insurance now. So they really have nothing to bitch about. Guys who don't want to deal with the issues of a small businesses get jobs. Always been that way. If there was universal health insurance here we would still be paying for it some other way. But everyone would have it. and yes, the lawyers have fucked everything up here. But it boils down to greed, and aside from lawyers, there are many other people who are greedy. There is no profession innocent on the whole. There a r e alot of contractors whoi charge a lot and then do bad work., That is just as bad as being a greedy ambulance chasing lawyer.

But your brother in laws situations were no different than many small businesses. And as Peter mentioned the cost of things is an issue. You have to be able to charge enough to pay for things. That is where the art of salesmanship becomes a big factor in contracting of any kind. Guys who can get a bigger buck have a better shot. Other than getting the big buck, you have to get a shitload more work. That is where being a merchandiser ( not necessarily the same as being a salesman.) comes in.Running a business is always a balancing act, and for some time now guys who do not come in from the businessman;s end have a harder time. Years a go it was much easier to break in from the blue collar end. Not been that way a long time.

Also, There used to be many good small business health insurance programs, I guess they were too good. I bought one in 86 or 87. Then in the 90s the co discontinued it but were obligated to offer anyone on it a indiviudal health policy. I kept my insurance. It ain't the greatest, but to a degree it's done the trick one way or the other so far. Often i have had to lay out plenty of dough and then fill out a million forms and wait a long time to get reimbursed, It ain't always easy. But many peopel do find ways to stay insured. It can and has been done. Sometimes getting a job is smarter than staying in your own business. Sometimes not. Had I become a cop 30 years ago I could have been retired 10 years already. With insurance, and doing something else if I wanted to. But noone has a crystal fucking ball.And when we are young we weren't all thinking about insurance.All in all, you end up where you end up, with or wothout insurance. But if we get universal helath insurance we will pay for it. teh correctiosn that need to be made to the system ainlt gonna hppen easily here. Lawyers ain't gonna want to give up the ability to get filthy rich. Significant societal upheavals have to happen one way or the other, and it;s gonnqa take a lot of effort and time to get there. if it can happen in thsi country without disaters and bloodshed, and a severe societal shaking depresion remains to be seen. The adminstartion is trying to get on that course. But to expect this to happen fast is too much. To expect to haoppen at all might be pie in the sky.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Location: beyond Hope, BC.

Subject: Going Over To "The BARK Side"

Yikes Bill ! So I leave for a few days and in my absence Stevon makes yet another convert to The BARK Side !

DAMN YOU STEVE, and your Elmer Fudd-like eloquence ! NB. (Hey to jeff, joan, WC and dlewsional).


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, I'm sticking with my pressure on him to get Garth on for one of his in depth interviews, an hour long one like he'll do with Gord tomorrow

Your right, George is hard to watch for long. I found him entertaining in a quirky way the first time I watched his program, by the third time it had grown annoying.

Peter I'm well aware of where the money goes in the US system, Marge has two sisters that are nurses, one sister that is a radiologist, a brother who's an RN who runs a cardiac lab in a hospital in New Hampshire, two sisters in law that are nurses and a brother in law who just retired from his job as an anesthesiologist last year. He was paying $50,000 a year in insurance when he retired.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Jian Ghomeishi's group, Moxy Fruvous, has a place in my heart for their rap version of "Green Eggs and Ham". But beyond that, they share a CD with Rick Danko and Garth Hudson - "Upfront: Canadians Live from Mountain Stage", where MF sing a very funny song about Rush Limbaugh and Rick with Garth sings a lovely and moving "Twilight". (Bruce Cockburn, Barenaked Ladies, Stephen Fearing, Cowboy Junkies, Blue Rodeo, Sarah McLachlan, Crash Test Dummies, Spirit of the West and the Rankin Family are also on the CD.)


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve…….Your man Jian was a drummer ( even if it was in a Canadian boy band whose only real claim to fame was being the poor man’s Bare Naked Ladies ) so it is likely he might ask that question but a little prompting from you wouldn't hurt. By the way, you are correct in lauding his qualities as an interviewer. Always first rate. Sad that CBC television replaced his show with the hideous George Stompolomplous….next up in the death of a nation…..Ben Mulroney replaces Peter Mansbridge…….to our US/worldwide audience….this would be akin to Danny Partridge replacing Rick Danko


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Medical insurance

Steve: a British doctor I know used to visit the USA often to lecture. He told me he'd thought about moving, but that a US doctor's overhead is around 50% of income, and the lion's share of that goes to insurance companies, who charge so much because the lion's share of what they make goes to ambulance chasing lawyers. US medical fees are absurd in comparative world terms not because doctors are raking in it, but because they're at the end of a line where lawyers are raking in it.

Basically lawyers in one way or another have totally f**ked America. Just as here civil servants (and lawyers) yelling about Alf and Safe Tea (health and safety) are totally f**king Britain. We have a three storey house. It's now illegal for a window cleaner to mount a ladder to clean the top floor windows. Ten years ago, satellite dish installers cheerfully wandered all over our roof setting up our dish. Now they'd need either scaffolding, a tower or a cherry picker. We see the price of that and say, Screw it. So we won't replace our dish.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

David P: Thanks. The album after George IV's "Early Morning Rain" was pretty much all-Canadian songs, all Canadian musicians (see link). Lenny Breau, Brian Ahern and Bruce Cockburn on guitars, Buddy Cage on steel, etc. Cockburn also wrote "Going Down The Road", but never released it himself, aside from on a movie soundtrack. All the songs are Canadian too.


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, it may be Black Veil that Manx did, I'm not sure but I know it was a song I associated with the Band.


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Posted by:

Steve

Now, now , boys, if you'd invest a little time in Jian's program you know he's #1 when it comes to getting a great in depth interview done. People loosen up and speak quite freely when the realize he's done his home work, knows the music business inside out and is compassionate about it. I'm sure the interview will be a don't miss episode, and I won't miss it. 10am tomorrow morning, CBC Q.

Jeff in one case Marge's brother sold his trucks, lawn tractors, rototillers and the rest of his equipment, laid off his two employees the day after he took his infant daughter to the hospital and found out she needed an ultrasound and then had to fork over $900.00. He got a job working for a Japanese plastics company. He's now a mailman.

The other brother in law got his high school diploma from a trade school and literally started working the day he got his electrician's license.

I think he was still 18 or maybe 19 at the time. He's the most dedicated, smart and hardworking guy you'll find anywhere.

He got his contractor's license and started a company with his friend. He then got a full time job as the head electrician at Women and Infant's Maternity Hospital in Providence, doing his other job in the evenings and weekends.

Then he moved to northern New Hampshire in his early 40's built a solar and wind powered house started gardening big time and raising meat chickens to sell. He also started an electrical contracting company again. That's when he ran into troubles. To survive and bid on big enough contracts he had to hire 2 guys, pay his and their medical insurance. He told me he could make money, and expand if he didn't have the medical payments.

He said when you try to run a small electrical business you get caught in that in between place and you go big or get out. He was paying $1,500 a month in medical insurance. He packed it in and is now running the electrical dept at the local hospital which I think is in Stowe VT.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Nashville Goes Canadiana

Marty Robbins' version of Gordon Lightfoot's "Ribbon of Darkness" reached #1 in Billboard's country chart in 1965. Another Nashville artist, George Hamilton IV, covered "Early Morning Rain", as well as Lightfoot's "Steel Rail Blues", in 1966. A year later he covered Lightfoot's "I'm Not Sayin'" and Ian Tyson's "Four Strong Winds" on his fine "Folk Country Classics" album.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Early Morning Rain

I followed Kevin J's link and found the one above - Ian and Sylvia doing the song at some mid-'80s reunion show. But listen to Lightfoot's voice when he comes out halfway through to do a verse.

Anyway, many of the follow-on links are also worth checking out, whether I&S clips from the early '60s or "C.C. Rider" from the Festival Express, with Jerry Garcia, Delaney Bramlett and Amos Garrett trading leads and Rick Danko and Bonnie Bramlett smiling in the background (towards the end).


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: not Jjoan

Flying fingers hmm.


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Posted by:

Jjoan

Subject: Elvis

I was prepared to not like this, (Early Morning Rain) but it was a really nice version


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Now...That's better!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A little Jerry Reed just to get the thought of Billy Ray out of my head...........A Chet Atkins connection also....


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Posted by:

Bill M

CBC interviewer: Tell us, Gord, how you felt when Billy Ray Cyrus recorded "Early Morning Rain".

Lightfoot: Well, uh, it shook me when I heard him change the line to "And an achey-breaky heart, and my pockets full of sand". Kinda like [strums guitar] "I'm on my second cup of coffee, and I still can't face the day ..." [Chuckles]


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Elvis "Early Morning Rain"

The above link is Elvis doing Lightfoot.......A songwriter's dream. Imagine the royalties from just this one recording!!!


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Posted by:

Friend0

Steve, i can only guess you are insinuating that health problems that caused financial hardship led to your brother in laws shutting down their profitable small businesses.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Gordon Lightfoot

Lightfoot sitting in on drums! Steve…….I won’t be around a radio tomorrow so look forward to hearing your take on his interview on CBC…..You have mentioned some contact you have had in the past with the CBC radio guys.. ….you might want to throw out that bit about him sitting in with the Hawkins band on drums……a bit better than “Elvis recorded Early Morning Rain…how did that make you feel? “ ‘Uh….it made me feel good!”

On that subject, interesting that McCartney played drums on 4 or 5 Beatle songs (I believe) and of course we all know about Richard Manuel’s playing of the drums on a number of Band songs. Any other examples like this that might be of surprise to most?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

"Pat B": Nice to see you here again, Sir. I'm sure it wasn't easy for you, first beating back the spooks who didn't want you to use your Blackberry, and now getting clearance to post like that. Yes you can!!

Steve / Charlie: It wasn't me who posted that Harry Manx had recorded "It Makes No Difference" or any other Band song. He may have, but I don't know. I'm sure I mentioned him a couple times in reference to him having recorded Lightfoot's "Bend In The River" for the "Beautiful" tribute CD. You can find the album by scrolling through the link above. Just a couple CDs away you'll find a tribute to Johnny Cash on which Harry Manx performs "Long Black Veil". (BARK contributes songs to each of the comps too.) Harry's liner notes to his contribution to the Lightfoot mentions that when he moved to Toronto in the early '70s he'd often go to see Ronnie Hawkins perform, and that Lightfoot could be counted on to sit in on drums every Sunday (or whatever).


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Posted by:

Steve

You'd need oxygen tanks and a couple of sherpas to get to the top of this mountain.

An economist I heard the other day was trying to figure out a way to put a billion dollars in perspective. As the US gov't makes billions seem common place, taking the place of millions in our minds, the next time you hear 700 billion being thrown around try picturing this.

1 billion dollars; If you take 100 dollar bills, nice crisp US one hundred dollar bills, and start stacking them up you surpass the top of Mt Everest before you'd get to 1 billion dollars.


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Posted by:

Steve

Charlie I've been trying to think of what song I heard him do by the Band and I think it was It Makes No Difference, but I'm not really sure about that.I think Bill mentioned it in here when it was released either in 2006 or 2007.

Peter I'm still sticking with that poster on Susan Orman's web page about her grandmother when it comes to the where abouts of Cripple Creek.

Jeff, the lack of universal gov't paid health care put two of my brothers in law out of profitable small businesses they owned.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Up On Cripple Creek

See the article on the site. This was about the third version with contributions from many regulars, and it summed up several lively debates on where Cripple Creek is / was / might be.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: The Simcoe sound

interesting article.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Harry Manx

Steve: I didn't realize Harry Manx had recorded any tunes by The Band. He didn't do any last night, though he did a fine version of Springsteen's "I'm on Fire" and finished his set with an encore of a Muddy Waters tune. He played a different vintage instrument on each song and used them all masterfully. He's quite a talent and one of the few times I recall an opening act getting a standing ovation at that venue.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Sounds reasonably socialist to me. I mean that positively. I'm just reacting to Manx's remark is all. There is a difference in people, thoguh there are universals that resound everywhere you go. Now I would expect that Cnandians should be more relaxed than US citizens. Simply as a result of all the benefits living in Canada offers. Shit, a community college here in NY probably costs as or almost as much as McGill. Guy that worked for me in St Louis, was paying 800 a month for daycare. I think he had 3 kids in daycare but only after school. helat insurance costs a fortune. So you guys up there should be awfully happy go lucky.


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Posted by:

Steve

Charlie, did Harry play any Band tunes? He's recorded a few.

Jeff, Canada, I think we could be called "socialist lite" as a country. Here in The Nation of Quebec you'll find we're closer to what the heartland of socialism in Northern Europe would recognize as socialism as it exists in the capitalist system.

We have no user fees for Medicare like they do is some other provinces. The only fee is usually for parking if you go to a hospital.

I think we have the most generous drug insurance plan of any of the provinces, but I'm not sure.

If you work for a company that offers a drug plan you have to take it. In our case that means 80% of our prescription drugs costs are paid for. If your company has no plan or you have no job the gov't pays 100% of your drug costs. The only thing we've run into that they don't pay for is some anti-virals.

If you have kids that need daycare, the gov't caps the cost day-cares can charge to $7 a day from 8am til 5pm. The gov't then tops up the payment to the day cares for each kid they look after. The cost is the same for each day care, 7 dollars maximum.

We have a $9.00 an hour minimum wage. Beyond that I can't think of anything off the top of my head that would be considered creeping socialism though I'm sure an American looking at the way we live would spot some obvious things like the high level of unionized workers and the low cost of college educations and cite that as socialism. College is free, you have to pay for books. University , even for a world renowned university like Mc Gill University is about $4,000 a year for Quebec residents and maybe $7 or 8 thousand for other students.

But I would argue you guys are really the leaders in reverse socialism or corporate socialism if you prefer. No other country has funneled so much money from so many to so few since Ronnie Ray Guns put corporate socialism into action. Though that system seems to have imploded, possibly making us leaders in socialism again in North America. That's what happen I guess when you abuse any system to the excess the Corporates did. In the meantime we just keep creeping along with our socialist lite experiment here.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

LINK: ROZ wanted you guys to see this article. David Cassidy and Woody Guthrie's movie, "Bound For Glory" content.

Hi guys. Lots of good posts to read as usual.

FRIENDO: We paid tribute to Mel Brown here in Kitchener. Nice guy.

DLEW: "Hello" to you too.

STEVE: Glad you lived to tell the tale. Seriously, nice to hear you weren't hurt too bad. I think we all have embarassing things happen to us at one time or another.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Friend0

Harry Manx is not exactly a blues artist. He is a great musician though. Manx could have included " and a helluva lot more fucking snow". Mega Snow or health coverage, you can't have one without the other.

Isn't Canada more socialist than not? Steve, would you expound for the less knowledgeable, especially and including me.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Ft. Lauderdale

Subject: Cripple Creek

BB: I have driven through the community called Cripple Creek in Virginia, and the creek with that name flows through many miles of Southwestern Virginia (the heart of Appalchia). I think The Band song may have been inspired by the folk and bluegrass standard which has a chorus with the line "going up Cripple Creek to see my gal."

The guy who wrote that song is mentioned in a short story by Tessa Hadley in the March 23rd issue of THE NEW YORKER. The passage reads, "how many Canadian rock stars can you do you know...they could only think of Robbie Robertson."

I saw a great Canadian musician last night opening for Richie Havens in Virginia. His name is Harry Manx and he got a standing ovation at the end of his set which made the audience understand how he was named Candaian blues artist of the year in 2008. He delivered some witty banter including my favorite line in some time: "just think of Canadians as Americans without guns and with health coverage..."


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Music and life

A link to a wonderful article from The NY Times magazine. Music, The Internet and the intersection of people's lives.

Enjoy!


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Posted by:

biffalo bull

Subject: holy grail

after visiting relatives in Hillsboro, New Mexico, a magical place where there is "absolutely nothing to do", touring the sites of the state, it was on and up to Cripple Creek Colorado. my elderly aunt & uncle, residents of Colorado Springs Co., graciously but bewildered drove us up to the town of Cripple Creek, as they were not aware of my musical interests or the reference of that particular tune to a nearby locale. any how, i can say that i was up on cripple creek, but at the visitors centre, i asked the hostess about any reference to the Band and the song. she wasn't sure and only stated that perhaps it was another Cripple Creek in Virginia or West Virginia. as my uncles roots are back to his Swedish grandfathers immigration to the U.S.A., for the sole reason to mine for gold in Cripple Creek, he came to the mountain via Texas, i believe that from the aspects of geography and history, that the story of gold at Cripple Creek, the fever it created, provided The Band with inspiration to frame the said tune. any one else been there? what's your take?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Jerry Friedman, whose guitar work can be heard on Midnight Train To Georgia (Gladys Knight) Your Love's A Supernatural Thing (Ben E. King) Swearin' To God (Frankie Valli) plus many Hit albums with artists such as Paul Simon, Brecker Bros., The Temptations, Bonnie Raitt, Herbie Mann, Ashford & Simpson, Gloria Gaynor, and many more, was diagnosed with Stage 4 rectal cancer in June 08. He had chemotherapy with aggressive rounds of radiation treatments, and surgery. . The surgery was deemed successful, but recovery was difficult. He began chemotherapy again in January.He now needs stem cell transplantation to survive the chemotherapy. This will necessitate Jerry going to a clinic in the Dominican Republic for a one-time infusion of stem cells, and then to another clininc in Germany.. Using both conventional and holistic methods the clinics survival statistics for Jerrys type / stage of cancer jump from 5-10% to 85%. Before the illness Friedman was living in senior housing. He does not have the funds to pay for this.

If anyone cares to send a donation, please make donatins out to Jerry Friedman and send to: Susan Ulintz 51 Brookside Ave. Nyack NY 10960


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Subject: Raphael Saadiq

A close friend saw Raphael Saadiq (formerly of Tony!Toni!Tone!) perform at WXPN's World Cafe Live this past Friday. He gave him and his band rave reviews. Thought I would pass it along.


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Posted by:

biffalo bull

Subject: holy grail

after visiting relatives in Hillsboro, New Mexico, a magical place where there is "absolutely nothing to do", touring the sites of the state, it was on and up to Cripple Creek Colorado. my elderly aunt & uncle, residents of Colorado Springs Co., graciously but bewildered drove us up to the town of Cripple Creek, as they were not aware of my musical interests or the reference of that particular tune to a nearby locale. any how, i can say that i was up on cripple creek, but at the visitors centre, i asked the hostess about any reference to the Band and the song. she wasn't sure and only stated that perhaps it was another Cripple Creek in Virginia or West Virginia. as my uncles roots are back to his Swedish grandfathers immigration to the U.S.A., for the sole reason to mine for gold in Cripple Creek, he came to the mountain via Texas, i believe that from the aspects of geography and history, that the story of gold at Cripple Creek, the fever it created, provided The Band with inspiration to frame the said tune. any one else been there? what's your take?


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: jh´s "Wine" was nothing for Linux ?

I thought it was "Wine" but it was only wine. Guess I have to wait for Open Source flash player...


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Posted by:

Norman Clancy

Hi Tony Oh you dont know the "shape I'm in" But you will know shortly. I miss you bro. You da man


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

The English element inspires global respect during the Victorian ages

Some call it The Holy Land, The Fertile Crescent, Al_Mashriq, Le Levant, The Orient, Balad Sham (land of Sham), The Biblical Land, The Cradle Of The Prophets, The Middle-East in a nutshell,

it was all fights, massacres, slaughters, wars, bombs, noises and ugliness, always supported of the divine element, to the everyday life all along 5,000 years of history, it’s what was reported to us in every proof based documents, sometimes in the holy scriptures too, no reason the forthcoming 5,000 years to differ

There’s only one Miracle which ever occurred during 5,000 years history of the Middle-East, it is Fairuz voice (not in the holy scriptures too)


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Great posts recently

I'm enjoying it all: Hi to Jeff - long time no see, stranger! I'll email you soon. And Hello to Serenity!


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Posted by:

Steve

My mistake, the caption next to the photo says 25 and I put the two together.I have your email address,if it's still the same as a couple of years back, I'll email you.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: I think we're "pushing it"

STEVE-

I can't help but think that we're upsetting the natural rhythm of this site. Why don't we take this to e-mail? I lost yours, but maybe Westcoaster, Jan Hoiberg or some mutual acquaintance can send my addy to you. I'd like to catch up on any news on the farm, as well as talk about the War Between the States.

But, before I go, Pelham was 19 when that photo was taken. He's wearing his West Point uniform and was going home on leave from the Academy in 1858. He never lived to be 25, he was killed 6 months after his 24th birthday.


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Posted by:

Steve

Do you have the complete set Lars? My friend, Grant, gave them to me at Christmas, but I think I'm missing one book. His father bought them when they were published. He knows my interest in that period of US history so he gave them to me. Most of them had never been opened, the spines were still stiff.

Of course after reading the set I watched Burns' series again. I finally realized it's the music I like the most in that doc. and the way the camera moves around pictures making them seem almost like motion pictures.

Pelham looks like he's about 16 in that picture of him in that same book with the Lee quote at Fredericksburgh. The caption says he's 25 but he looks like a high school kid.

On a related note, some of Marge's family call my friend Grant, US Grant because of the resemblance to the general.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Trivia: Wine, see link above.

Rick's reply: Hm, can't remember. But... "such a large amount of an illegal substance"... we're talking 1.1 grams (0.04 ounce) of H.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Nitpick, NY

Subject: Fredericksburg

Steve- You are right. I stand corrected (actually it was very "nitpicking " of me to even bring it up). Time Life Books, "Rebel Resurgent: Fredericksburg to Chancellorsville," page 81. I picked up a different book to check your quote and I guess it proves your point about quotes getting changed around.

Another Band trivia question: What kind of red wine did The Band members prefer?

Also...in 1997 Rick Danko got busted for possession of heroin in Japan. After he was arrested and detained until July, the Japanese judges gave him 2 1/2 years, but suspended the sentence. Before Rick was excused from the courtroom, one Japanese judge asked Rick what he would have done with such a large amount of an illegal substance. What was Rick's reply? (paraphrasing is perfectly alright).


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Posted by:

Steve

The quote,Lars, is the way it is phrased in the Time Life series I just finished reading. I'm not sure if you were nit picking the exact wording or my interpretation of what he meant. The exact wording of what he said, like most quotes, are impossible to get accurately unless there is someone there taking the minutes in shorthand, even then it's questionable.

We're probably repeating second or third hand info maybe written down after the battle, after the war, after Lee was dead. I have no idea, do you?

Yogi Berra is probably the most quoted man in America( though George W is probably giving hm a run for his money by now) and by this point who knows what amount of what's attributed to him he actually said. I'd bet you at this point he couldn't even he couldn't answer that question.

None of what I'm saying is in disagreement with your post, it's just something I always take into consideration when I hear quotes from historical figures.It started with religious texts but has spread to most "historical texts" now, for me.

It's why I found the transcribing of The Koran by "The Persian" so amusing in The Satanic verses.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: bullets, dirt, and confusion

Not to nitpick, Steve, but Pat Brennan's Confederate blood will boil when he sees your quote by Marse Robert. He is quoted as he looks at the carnage after the Yankee charge on Marye's Heights (Fredericksberg) "It is well war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."

But you got it pretty much right. That was the day Lee watched John Pelham stop Franklin's Grand Division for almost an hour with only two artillery pieces. Lee said, "It is glorious to see such courage in one so young." I hope I live to see the day that the only glory men aspire to is to never go to war again. I guess man's bloodlust will always be a part of life.

And now to somehow segue this into a Band related question. After Levon accidently shot himself in the ass while practicing his draw out in his backfield, the bullet went down the outside of his thigh and stopped somewhere above his right knee. Where does Levon keep that bullet? First correct answer gets to be in the GB Hall of Fame.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Jackson, Mississippi's Mel Brown, living in Ontatrio for some time now, died in Kitchener yesterday.

Had a illustrious career as a sideman. Led his own bands for quite a while now too.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Steve:

He would have to say “50% Christianity + 47% Islam” is the perfect ratio to achieve harmony with the nature of the land in Nigeria”

Q4Q, I know you do have some enlightening comment on the reasons of the English safety in Damascus 1860 [see link]


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Posted by:

Steve

Lars, thanks for the boat explanation. I do have to disagree with your take on Private Ryan being too realistic. I can only see harm in war movies being less than realistic. Think of Lee's comments while watching the Fredericksburg slaughter, "It is well war is so frightful, otherwise we should become too fond of it". I think of that sometimes when I see movies that downplay the horror while playing up the old glory.

It's mud season for sure. Yesterday morning at about 4, I was on the way to the calving barn to play midwife, if necessary, when I got distracted by the moon coming up over my neighbor's farm. So, as I was walking south, I was stupidly looking east when I tripped over an 8 inch high ridge of frozen mud that had been formed by the tractor during the day when it was 50 degrees and the mud was, well, mud.

Now it was like cement and when I hit the ground on more of that rough frozen mud it was like falling on a pile of bricks.

My flashlight that should have been on but wasn't, flew out of my hand when I hit the ground. You know how your brain does a complete body scan when something like this happens, well mine was being overloaded by reports coming in from all points.

I thought I might have broken my wrist at first but then realized it was just the normal arthritic pain being magnified.

It took about 30 seconds before I started to struggle up, with the two dogs, Babu and Clyde thinking I was on the ground for some face time with them. They were bashing into each other in an attempt to get in the most licks on my face. It's at times like this I'm happy I live where no one can see some of the things I get into.

The stone harvest( as BUMBLES renamed it)begins any day, weather permitting.

Empty, what would Abdel Qadir have to say about Nigeria, where 50% are Christians and 47% are Muslim? Maybe this is where East meets West religiously? The Great Divide.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Abdel Qadir

JTull : You do know that I specially like the first two verses

An excerpt from a biography of Abdel Qadir:
Algerian hero, poet and Sufi mystic, Abdel Qādir led the jihad struggle against French invaders from 1932 to 1847 when he was arrested. He and his family lived from 1848 to 1852 in the Château d’Amboise [note by poster: built of stone] until he was released by Napoleon III on taking an oath never again to disturb Algeria. Moving in 1855 to Damascus. He devoted himself to theology and philosophy. He also wrote a prominent book on the Arab horse.
While in Damascus he befriended Jane Digby and Richard and Isabel Burton, and he turned freemason. He was the distinguished figure by July 1860 during the Druze massacre of the Christians of Damascus (over 3,000 persons killed) [note by poster: the fact that all the Christians of Damascus were killed by July 1860 except the British citizen ones, will remain a whole historical mystery for me]. Abdel-Qadir used his personal guard and his aura to save large numbers of Christians, bringing them to safety inside the Citadel. He was honored by Abraham Lincoln for this gesture with several accolades [Band Connection].
The town of Elkader, Iowa in the United States came to be named after him when the new community was being officially platted, on what was then the American frontier, founders Timothy Davis, John Thompson and Chester Sage - none of them Arabs or Muslims - were so impressed with what they heard of the valiant Algerian leader that they decided to name the new town for him - which name it bears up to the present.

Worth posting is Abdel Qadir views on Monotheist/Organized Religions, in relation with a recent thread in The Band GB. Abdel Qadir had a somewhat very special explanatory model based on exclusive territorial views, it’s not the King nor the clergy nor the subjects who really decide on the prevailing religion, it’s the nature of the land. Beginning with his motherland who started Pagan, next was Judaic, Christian, ineluctably chose Islam a total Religion, “It’s the harmony of Islam with the land (and climate?) that will North-Africa remain Muslim,” as well as Christianity is the monotheist Religion “tailor made “ for Europe, etc… no effort of convert, no proselytism, can have such an effect on anything anywhere for anybody’s anyfaith

Related with the related : The Pollokshields mentioned in my previous post is a Muslim town next to Glasgow (yes the Scottish one)


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Posted by:

Lynn

Location: Toronto

Days Gone Bye, what a beautiful song.


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Posted by:

Lynn Sherwin

Location: Toronto

Keep on Rockin' Ronnie Hawkins.! My husband used to go to Yorkville to see you and the Band, He LOVED you ! He's gone Home. a little too early.


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: R&R Hall of Fame

LINK: The latest inductees. It's about time for some of them.

Take care xoxoxox


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Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Union, ME

Subject: Clapton

Just watched Eric playing with the ABB at the Beacon - great stuff. He's all over the place, played some shows with Jeff Beck in Japan about a month ago. Heading down to the Beacon to see the ABB on Tuesday - hope the special guest isn't Bruce Willis.


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Posted by:

Mike

Seriously....I'm in the hvac contracting business & you're gonna need the a/c to dry that stuff out:).


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Dylan

Hi Guys. Nice to be checking in again. The link is an add to JOAN'S link on Bob Dylan's new album.

CHARLIE: Sorry to hear about your daughters friend. A sad tragedy, and to such a young girl who was doing a kindness of her heart.

Take care you all.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Germane to the Band and Lars' naval explanation. I had no idea Ferlinghetti was in the Navy.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The trees

Subject: Navy vessels

Steve- I looked up "LPH" just to be safe and it's like I thought. The US Navy has so may types of ships that are named with an "L" in front of their letters (LSTs, LPDs, they've even got an "LSD"). Originally, the "L" stood for "Landing craft," or amphibious ship. If you saw that horrible "Saving Private Ryan" (that movie was TOO realistic) then you saw the troops coming in on flat-bottomed "landing craft" that didn't even get close to the beach. So some guys jumped out and sunk to the bottom with all that gear they were humping.

An LPH (which is what I heard the sub hit early this morning) is not at all amphibious. It's more like a small aircraft carrier for helicopters. Maybe planes use then now too, I don't know. So to put in in perspective, it was like a kids wagon running into the wheel of a garbage truck. The LPH probably needs some paint to cover the scratch.

It must be mud season up on your farm, or maybe not quite. Aren't we getting close to the "stone gathering" time of year? When do you start putting in all nighters for the birthing process? I worked on a dairy farm (I know, that's not what you got) for three days in my youth. On the third day it was Sunday and I expected the day off. The farmer had me doing chores all afternoon. I quit when he told me that WAS my day off.

To my European friends who frequent this GB-- next time I post it will be Band related. I admit I've been getting off course.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Steve, i hope the Innuits homes were not built with chinese drywall. See the articles below. I swear the chinese are trying to poison the rest of the world so we weaken and it's easier for them to invade later.

http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/01/23/chinese-drywall-a-hazard-to-american-homeowners

http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/03/18/the-lawyers-have-landed-in-the-uproar-over-chinese-drywall/


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Posted by:

Steve

Exactly the same thing was done here, the US and Greenland with the Inuit people in the 50's and 60's. Gov'ts don't like people wandering around, it's easier to control people when they stay in a house with a number on it.

Before this the word suicide didn't exist in their language. By the second generation in their new housing and lifestyle suicide was definitely in their vocabulary. Now their numbers are off the scale. Their houses are also rotting because they were not built for the extreme temperatures and winter humidity levels.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Empty Now, does the house made of mud and brick have air conditioning? That is the real question.


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Posted by:

enno

Web: My link

write me vad@comcor.ru


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Bethel Woods cool upcoming museum exhibit.

Bethel Woods Museum is now open & will feature beginning March 28th an exhibit featuring instruments & artifacts from musicians who performed in the original Woodstock '69 Festival.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Lars - I had set a tight stop today (FAZ) on the shares I bought yesterday and it was tripped - so I cashed out a few hundred dollars - had to make up some cash on my 41 and change investment from last week that's still a loser at the moment. Watch MOS, as it gets closer to possibly bouncing off its bottom trend line. MMM, IBM are also hitting overbought points, so there may be some profit taking there at points next week.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: oine last related anecdote

Roving one day by the steppes of the Mid Algerian South, a surreal image surprised me when crossing one of those modern villages built 30 years before as a help for the Bedouins welfare from the then government – whose members were in majority of Mediterranean culture and the kind who wanted happiness for people despite their will – The image in question, all around any of the Mediterranean styled houses, there are tents inside which the village settlers live, as their forefathers did since centuries, meanwhile the houses are fitted-out as Cowsheds for their cattle. The result is that both the Bedouins and their cattle seem have found the perfect equilibrium in that share of the parts, and then more than ever I had to appreciate the sublime poem of Abdel Qadir

For the being from the desert country and the friend of the great solitudes
True happiness lies inside two verses
One verse of poetry, and one verse read inside a house made of camel wool
You who dislike a house so light to be carried, you deserve forgiveness
Since you accommodated the false comfort of a home made of mud and brick


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Posted by:

Steve

Yes Jeff, the intersection of Fertile Creek and the First Concession almost sounds like it could be from a Dylan song.

Lars what's an LPH?

kristie I heard an interview with a guy who survived the Killing Fields in Cambodia, yesterday. I can't remember his name but he owns the only Cambodian restaurant in Toronto.

he was one of 28 people who survived from his slave work group of 550 people. Most of the others died from starvation and exhaustion. Some were shot for stealing food,mostly corn from a corn field near their camp. They were fed a half cup of rice twice a day and required to work 15 hour days doing physical labour.His brother was shot for stealing a corn cob from the field. This lasted from 76 to 79.

He has started a charity and goes back to Cambodia where he has started a non profit business venture providing jobs.

On his first trip back he met the guard who was the head of the camp he was kept in, the one who ordered his brother shot.

When asked how he reacted he said, I told the guy I forgive him, he was a victim too, if he hadn't done his job he would have been killed too. he said there's no point hating the man or having him arrested, it wouldn't bring his brother or his two sisters who also were killed, back. He said if you live with that hate it kills you, you have to move on or the past dictates the future and revenge leads to revenge. Someone always has to say, OK , that's it. The guy is a lesson for us all.

Bill, that is one of my favorite songs from David's second album. It's inspired by the time, he was living in Ennismore ( Peterborough) Ontario doing construction work in Toronto then driving 10 hours every Friday night to get here to The Townships about noon on Saturday to spend Saturday night with Beth, who is now his wife.

He'd then leave Sunday evening and arrive back at the work site in Toronto Monday morning, "knackered in the knees and a bit wobbly" as he describes it. This was in 89 I think. He did this for 6 months. Then one day he finally realized staying here was a much more reasonable way to live.

Here's the song, Saturday Night

Forget all your worries, forget all your cares

Forget all your troubles at the foot of the stairs

Just pass on the perfume and turn out the light

cause we're going out on Saturday Night

Just say you'll come with me and I'll show you a time

Then we'll go to diner til a quarter past nine

Then we'll go dancing til the dawn's early light

cause we're going out on Saturday Night

When the working weeks over

When the working week's through

I'm going to come calling, come calling on you

You know me darlin, my heart's on my sleeve

You can love anybody, but I hope you love me

I'll come and get you, I'll be driving my car

Don't bother getting dressed up come the way that you are

Ill pull in your driveway, I'll be flashing my lights

cause we're going out on Saturday Night.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Kristie

It was very uplifting and heartening to read your post. Thank you for sharing with us and all your good works.


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Rock music

Rock music is sin!

And NORBERT: you had gb gathering already for a long time ago in your site and in your heart.


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Posted by:

Friend0

Ringo & Macca to perform together Apr 4 at Radio City Music Hall. Word is Bettye Lavette to sing Let It be with them


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Posted by:

bill m

Web: My link

The missing link, as referenced last post.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: market manipulation

This is too much. Over near Iran (I think it's the Straits of Louis Hurwitz) a US sub bumped into an LPH this morning and nobody was hurt and no real damage was done. Maybe some embarrassed sonar techs. So today oil is spiking because of this incident. A tempest in a teapot.

I don't think that's nearly as bad as the confirmed rumor that Ben Bernake and Ken Lewis fell off of a wharf and so far no bodies have been found. But the search continues. I would imagine that the financials will lose billions of dollars from this unfortunate accident. Rumor has it that Obama was told about it while smoking a cigarette and his hands were shaking so badly that it went out.

Updates at 6:00 PM.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: I missed it, but Tom Allen also played our guys singing "The Shape I'm In" this morning - as can be seen via the link above, which will get you to the complete playlist with a bit of clicking.

Anyway, it was "Saturday Night" that he played by David Francey. Not to be confused with more or less worthy, similarly titled songs by Elton John, Sam Cooke, Ultravox, Bay City Rollers, Stompin' Tom Conners ... Despite the tartanity of the BCRs, Francey's is the only one sung with a Scottish burrrrr.


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Posted by:

Kristie

And I meant no offense to anyone with that post I was just trying to explain why people sometimes put themselves in situations which may prove dangerous. My good friend recently got back from volunteering in Cambodia and she said, when she came back to the city, that she felt like she was living in a bubble of all her experiences and memories there and when she came back to "civilization" it burst...and she realized how much the life people led there paralleled our lives here...and she thinks she will never feel comfortable with that. So she is going to work in an orphanage in Guatemala.


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Posted by:

Kristie

Subject: Volunteering

I am member of Global Volunteers(with plans to volunteer in Ghana and Nepal) and have considered joining the Peace Corps. I hear things like that and it makes me worried....and sad. I really struggle with wanting to contribute and not just be one of the many people in my generation who uses and abuses the planet and then expects it to give them everything they want. I know how fortunate I am to have grown up in Canada and the fact that people buy three thousand dollar purses while people all over the world are starving just frustrates me to no end(and I am aware that people are starving in Canada as well. Interesting that as a Canadian Neil Young has never included Canada in his Farm Aid benefits)....I can sit on the couch with video games and take everything the government hands to me(and people who live in Canada can complain all they want but the fact is we are given a lot)or I can raise my conscience from it's slumber and take all the risks and go out and do something, anything to make a difference and hopefully inspire others of my generation.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Glimmer Fades At Live Aid

No doubt Keith Richards & Ron Wood felt a little bit uncomfortable even before they took the stage with Dylan at Live Aid. They had to follow Mick Jagger, who performed with Hall & Oates band (featuring G.E. Smith), along with guest Tina Turner. This was during a period when the glimmer had begun to fade around the Jagger/Richards songwriting tandem, as the future Sir Michael Phillip Jagger was clearly concentrating on his solo career at the time.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Ari

Thanks for the link. I really enjoyed that. But the film is horrible.

I watched all of the "related" videos(I have seen most of them before) as well and the one of the boys on Sullivan is good. Garth does what I do when there is a camera on me....starts laughing and ends up looking like a bit of a crazy person.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Lars/ Ari

Lars, when I read Charlie's post, I kind of gasped and held my breath hoping you wouldn't see it. There is really nothing I can say except send my prayers for Sarah's safety.

Ari, thanks for that song. It brought back memories. That movie "Last Summer" was filmed on Fire Island. I think is was 1969. It was the buzz of Manhattan as many of us (including me) summered on Fire island and knew the geography and some of the "extras"


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, I forgot to ask what Tom played by David.

I only farm, or at least the original impetus to farm was to allow us to garden and cross country ski. Having a farm allows you the time and place to do both. Once we found out we weren't cut out for the pressure of the crazy cut throat business of market gardening, being able to do a low key, grow it and donate it project was a wonderful outlet for our gardening energy.

I'm planting paste tomatoe seeds I started sprouting a couple of days ago into pots and sticking them under grow lights right behind me. Next it's Primrose seeds that Marge snuck into my sprouting trays when I wasn't looking.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Sorry Peter V

From yesterday's Newsday. Info on the Pete Seeger tribute. Sorry Peter v. I know how much you like Pete.

SPRINGSTEEN, VEDDER TO SING FOR SEEGER. Dave Matthews, Bruce Springsteen, Eddie Vedder, John Mellencamp and Emmylou Harris are among dozens of musicians who will celebrate Pete Seeger's 90th birthday with a gala concert at Madison Square Garden on May 3, Billboard.com reports. The event will raise funds and awareness for Hudson River Sloop Clearwater, an environmental organization founded by Seeger to preserve and protect the Hudson River. Tickets will be available Monday.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Live Aid

Thanks Bill M….Not bad at all to be in a Hall of Fame with that company…..Funny though that every time I go to another artists website – whether they be relatively minor or major , I am struck by just how great this website is.

Sometimes it depends on who says something…….his performance was a shambles as sadly all his live television appearances have been for 25 years, but I did understand what he was getting at with those comments at Live Aid. I also accept that I probably would have interpreted entirely differently coming from someone else……..from a performance angle…I also realized that day that I would much rather have Keith Richard watching my back on stage than Ron Wood. The look on Woody's face was…”what the F*ck is going on…” Richards looked as relaxed and content as he always does despite the fact that he had no idea what Bob was going to do next!

bob w: very glad to hear of your son returning safely. I shared a plane back from Germany earlier this year with a group of Canadian soldiers returning from Afghanistan. A great group of guys – made me laugh as they talked about hockey all the way back! What struck me was just how young they all were.

I enjoyed Bruce Spingsteen on John Stewart last night...talk and performance


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the Anti-Alvin

Obviously Steve is from a different mold than Alvin Lee of Ten Years After, who sang "I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do, so I'm leaving it up to you."

Obligatory Band link: Levon wrote the short preface to "Stick It", the interesting memoire of Corky Laing, whose drumming you get to hear if you listen to the Woodstock movie/record version of Ten Years After's "Going Home". Corky also co-wrote "Yasgur's Farm", with bandmates from Mountain and from his previous group, Bartholomew Plus Three (whose Atlantic 45s were produced by Pappalardi), including bassist George Gardos, who appeared on the Billy Workman album mentioned just yesterday. Also on that LP is drummer Marty Simon, likely best known for his work with Chris Spedding's Sharks, but previously with Mylon's Holy Smoke Band (another Pappalardi project).


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Posted by:

Steve

ED, I do both. My project, and I've been at it for 5 years now is donating food to an immigrant women shelter in near by Sherbrooke.

My beef donations are already spoken for, sorry. Marge and I expanded our garden by 500 sq feet at the same time to supply root crops to the same people.

As usual I have a story that goes with my post.

A friend of ours who helped set up the center knows I love hot peppers, even the killer Scotch Bonnets.I grow enough for about 50 people every year and in this white rural Quebec ( we don't eat hot stuff)area always had trouble finding people to eat all my excess peppers.

Our friend Vicky dropped by one September day to tell me she knew where I could find a very willing group of pepper eaters.

Many of the women are middle eastern and have a high heat tolerance level.

It's a marriage made in heaven. I get to grow and try more varieties and they can't get enough of them.

It's not actually a shelter, it's a place that augments the food supplies that these women have for their families and tries to supply them with food that they are used to eating.

I've been hoping you'd drop by, ED, since I finally came across the bio of MacArthur that helped form my negatitive opinion of him.

The Untold Story of Douglas MacArthur, by Frazier Hunt. A blurb on the back of the book says; Frazier Hunt is uniquely qualified to write The Untold Story of MacArthur. He is a veteran war correspondent whose personal friendship with the general dated back to the battlefields of France in WW1. His research included a thorough study of closed Pentagon files( including records covering 50 years of the general's army life)as well as interviews with numerous officers who served in battle with MacArthur.

Now get back to the soup kitchen!

No, Bill, it's a 3 hour drive west of here to where Ms Workman lives. We lived in that area before moving here in 84. I don't know if you've heard her speak French, but somehow the southern sweetness is there from time to time as she speaks. It's quite enchanting.

Oh and ED, are you living at the soup kitchen without an internet hook up or something? You should have dropped in here years ago, I could have given you financial advice while you were still rakng in the do re mi in the lawyering business. Bet you didn't see that soup kitchen in your future back when you were blowing money on concerts, golfing fees and expensive wine. I would have suggested health insurance as well, the knee operation wouldn't have put you in the poor house.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Ari: Thanks for the link.

Kevin J: The link above is to Nanette Workman's current label - three blues CDs out, all in English it seems. "Nanette est une des 27 membres du tres select 'Mississippi Musicians Hall of Fame' avec Elvis Presley, BB King, Ike Turner, Bo Diddley et Robert Johnson." Pas mal!!

Steve: Would that be near the Fraser and Debolt homestead too? And speaking of your former neigbours, Tom Allen played some really nice stuff by David Francey this morning.

Peter V: And then he played k.d. lang singing "Barefoot". Awesome, especially given that it was from a live CD. I'd certainly always enjoyed her before, but had never understood why people go on about her vocal prowess. Now I get it.

And then it was back to my Bengali Bauls CD - not the Big Pink record, unfortunately, which still isn't out on CD to the best of my knowledge. Still great stuff, however.


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Web: My link

Subject: Song from Film

This a song from a film called Last Summer which actually is written and sung by John Simon. It's got Rick Danko on bass and Levon on drums. I like it


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Posted by:

ED

Location: NYC

Subject: BACK

Steve, my Old Bud, How the hell are you? How do you like Socialism Now? Oh, that's right you are from Canada. Its all the rage with the US Gov buying up all the banks etc. They will run them like the railroads. I guess they can't get any lower anyway. Listen, Bush is not President anymore, Its all the Tiger Woods guy's bag of crap to carry around. Who I love by the way.... I will check in again in another 6 months and I bet you are still pointing out the obvious........ Charlie, I had an aunt who was a nun and was a missionary in Rhodesia in 63'? maybe? Was murdered during the revolution there, my heart goes out to you........ Steve, wonder where I have been since I retired from the Law profession? I work in a soup kitchen on the Bowery in NYC. I have been more active lately procuring food and scrounging, got any extra beef you want to send? Stop bitching about the world and do something about it


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Posted by:

Steve

Peter, the Live Aid\Support American Farmers issue is one of the things I was pointing at yesterday as our gov'ts giving with one hand and taking away with the other.

I the case of the US, and it's the same for our gov't, Live Aid is done in by Tied Aid.

Our gov'ts realize people have to be able to feed themselves, they need to have a productive agricultural sector, so we invest in food production in countries in Africa that actually can produce a surplus of food in hopes they can feed their own people and then export food to neighbors. Sounds good so far, right.

Then to support our own farmers while at the same time appearing not to further add to agricultural subsidies breaking GATT agreements, we give tied aid to countries, the tie in some cases being that they use the money to buy grain from our farmers. This grain then under cuts the price of grain in the very markets we've given financial support to local farmers in. Their crops have to be sold below the cost of production and the agricultural aid to prime the local agricultural pump we donated goes to waste. We end up killing the very program we started.

Then we're surprised, even indignant that these countries don't seem to be able to get their act together to at the very least feed themselves no matter how much money we give them.

I think Bush also probably feels his crusades have improved his chances of getting to heaven, where he'll no doubt be sitting right beside the guys who flew the planes on 9-11,sharing their milk and honey and maybe if he's really lucky, some of their virgin babes.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: border zones

David P : did any GBer ever tell you that you are PRECIOUS, simply said

Lars: your last thought as I understood it is admirable.

The fact is that there are 4 or 5 complementary civilizations who share equally the world, and that in depth obey completely different logic of life and culture. Sometimes things enter in total contradiction, what’s considered as a sin in some civilization is a good deed for the other, and things often go worse with interferences, it’s almost an impossibility to set oneself in the place of the other to have his vision of things.

Seen from Benin, the Catherine "Kate" Puzey news made as much consternation in Benin as in Atlanta, the majority of Beninois are good people though in the need as you can’t never imagine, those people are poor and brave, now the priority is to welcome an equal good soul who would pursue Kate Puzey work in Badjoude [located near the Benin-Togo borderline]. Back to the dominant thread in The GB, I have these related anecdotes:

I’ve read an instructive document on Afghanistan, and how the [surely prevailing by strength not by fundament] Western views of welfare, poverty and richness, peace and war, freedom, have no meaning there, or at least a very different sense, the same way they have a different meaning in Japan or in the Pollokshields, any judgment of Afghanistan based on any of those concepts can is dedicated to fail. The Afghans who discovered the arithmetic of Pythagoras, the dialectic of Aristoteles and the whole Hellenistic civilization long before the British people did, traced their own way over the millenniums and according to the same document, they crossed at last the path of the British on the road of opium and emeralds.

A very clever friend of mine once explained me arithmetically that Mobutu has been the best president a third-world country ever had, given that the day he died his personal fortune was 400 Million $US, which exactly equals the amount of declared international aid for the country Zaire, meaning that Mobutu didn’t pick a dime from the national income of the people of Zaire, undeniably and by far the richest country in the world, in natural resources most evidently

To a French journalist who asked one day former China president Mao-Ze-Dong whether his new responsibility to feed one billion mouths isn’t a challenge, Mao replied, “Where you and the Western observers see one Billion mouths to feed, I see two Billion hands to work”

For the obligatory Band Connection: The Weight didn’t keep the World GB tour, try Up On Cripple Creek

A total lack of silliness in my posts would ruin my credibility in The Band GB


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Sad news Charlie.., it boggles the mind that such tragedy can come to those whose heart and intentions are so good.

Lars - I bought more at 27 and change yesterday.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Do you remember when Dylan outraged people on his (abysmal) Live Aid performance with Keef and Ronnie by mentioning the plight of the American farmer? Not at all relevant to the Live Aid situation, I thought at the time, and striking a very sour note. BUT a couple of weeks ago, looking at the state of our economy, the huge drop in the value of pensions and savings etc, let alone the pound being worth 33% less against the dollar, Gordon Brown, architect of disasters financial, came on the radio announcing millions being donated to rebuild Gaza. Yes, Gaza needs rebuilding, and we sent donations for humanitarian aid, but as far as government millions go, I thought the people who knocked it down, together with a few of the governments that stirred the pot, resulting in it getting knocked down, could dip into their pockets first. The thing that gets me most about Brown is there is a man (like Blair before him) who is convinced that his donations of our money are earning him his place in heaven. Though in the words of Randy Newman, where those two are going:

there won’t be no harps and angels coming for you

I’ll be trombones, kettle drums, pitchforks and tambourines.

Beware pious politicians. Heck, beware ALL politicians. Anyway, I saw Dylan’s 1985 point perhaps for the first time.


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Posted by:

Friend0

The intersection of the first concession and fertile creek road, someone had a sense of humor.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Thanks!

Thank you all for your kind words. If this group were the United Nations we COULD have world peace... David: I got a call from my daughter to tell me she made it to Atlanta. I'm sure it will be a very emotional couple of days for her.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Lars, you were my first thought upon reading Charlie's post.

On a far more pleasant note......link.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: Africa

I guess now I know why the Peace Corp is sending my daughter to Benin to teach English.

BRIEN: I'm FAZing the banks again, but with settled funds.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Charlie, that is a very sad news. It is disheartening to learn over and over again the depths to which people will sink.

On a somewhat related note, my son returned last week after his second stint in Iraq and shared some stories that made my head spin. The most disturbing of all was a particular tactic being employed by rebel forces there. They have taken to having plastic replicas of automatic weapons and grenades distributed as toys to children in hopes of baiting our patrols into injuring or killing a child.

No doubt, war is ugly business but that somehow defines a new low. No intent here to dredge up the political aspects of all of this. It is horribly sad no matter what your take may be.


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Posted by:

Steve

Nanette lived on the 1st Concession Road when Marge and I lived in Ormstown Que. We lived on the corner of The First Concession and Fertile Creek Road. This was from 78 to 80. She was our closest neighbor. She still lives in the same house I think. She's never lost her popularity here in French Quebec. I heard her being interviewed recently on Radio Canada, the French CBC network.

The road she lives on runs straight North and South for miles with corn fields on either side for thousands of acres. Since the wind blows west to east and the road is wide open to the wind, the snow drifts on her road are legendary in that part of the Chateauguay Valley.

One of the biggest drifts on the road was caused by a small barn near the road on her farm. I successfully crashed through it many times, getting stuck only once that I can remember.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: I hadn't heard of Nanette for years either until earlier this decade when she came out with a very well received blues album. (Nominated for an award even.) May have been in French, as most of her stuff has been since the '70s. On YouTube there's even she and Celine Dion singing "Lady Marmalade". If it can be trusted, Wikipedia confirms that she's the Nanette Newman who sings on "Let it Bleed". Would certainly make up for all that disco-era dreck.

As for Jackson, I guess she and Billy were leaving just as Nancy and Lee were arriving.

Billy did an entire album on the back of the single. the single's great, but I don't recall being impressed with the rest.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Oh those nights in Montreal...........

Bill M: In this “world is a very small place” category, a girl I spent some time with in Los Angeles – early 80’s (former Playboy playmate Missy Cleveland) ended up living in Montreal late 80’s with the brother of Nanette Workman – Billy. They all shared a hometown of Jackson Mississippi as it turned out. Sadly, Missy’s no longer with us………….I have not heard anything about or from Nanette Workman in years…………..and until now, I had no idea that Billy had done anything of note on his own…………..

bob w mentioned the Dylan outhouse story here a week ago.


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Posted by:

Steve

We tie more of our aid than most counties, Bill.

Fred, I heard about the Dylan outhouse story last night on As It Happens. More accurately, I heard they were going to interview someone about it but didn't think it was time worthy so I missed it.

CBC radio's Q will have an hour long interview with Gord Lightfoot, live in the studio at 10 am next Tuesday.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve/Brien: Let's not forget that much of the 'foreign aid' from this countries, and from many others I'm sure, is 'tied' aid, where "we" will give "country x" money provided country x spends its money (or a generous portion thereof) on our wheat or our machinery or our engineering services. Country x is generally smart enough to know that Canada's machinery or whatever is not the best thing to spend money on, but if the alternative is nothing at all ... So yes, we're all corrupt.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Thanks for the link to Pagliaro. Lots of great follow-on links to many of his big songs, both in English ("Lovin' YOu Ain't Easy") and French ("Je Marche Pour Une Nation"). The Rockers one is essentially Pag backed by Moonquake, I believe. I think the drummer was Derek Kendricks (?), but can't recall the guitarist at all. Maybe John Hagopian? But if that's not Hagopian, it might be Billy Workman, who had a great minor hit with a song called "Talk About Money" in the early '70s.

David P: Yes, Brad Campbell replaced Denny Gerrard between the Paupers' first (Magic People) and second Ellis Island) albums. "Ellis Island" included contributions from Al Kooper on keys and from Billy Edd Wheeler and the Ramblers. He also appeared on Pozo Seco's first Columbia album - done around when Paupers drummer Skip Prokop did the "Live Adventures of" album with Bloomfield and Kooper. Campbell and Prokop both agreed to join Janis Joplin's then-new Kozmic Blues Band (with pianist Bill King, who avoided Vietnam by moving to Toronto, where he's still very active), but Prokop didn't show up as promised (choosing to form Lighthouse instead). Campbell of course stayed on with Joplin to the end, and with Full Tilt even beyond that. But by the time I met him in the mid-'70s he was back in Toronto playing every Friday night in the basement of one of the members of his pre-Paupers group, the Last Words. He did take the stage with most of the rest of Full Tilt at the opening party for the Festival Express movie (as did Garth), and he was also there with the others at the Richard Bell memorial a couple of summers ago.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Shit, just one more thing

Brien , your country and mine both have plenty of money to do larger donations and all those other things at home you mentioned.

The 4 billion Bush spent in Africa last year, that's what, about a week of expenditures in Iraq? Canada is going to spend hundreds of times more money fighting the Taliban this year than we'll spend in Africa. Our gov't now lumps it all together, fudges the numbers and calls some of the military spending, foreign aid. Now that's creativity!

We have the cash, even now in "our time of need", it's all just priorities.


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Posted by:

Steve

I'll keep it brief on this Brien, the 35 million receiving education is a hard number and it's an increase since 2000. It comes from two friends of ours ( a married couple) who've been working with and through the UN since we graduated in 76 from Providence.

Literally the day after graduation, they went back to their hometown of Wethersfield Conn. dumped their belongings at their respective parents' homes and got into working with groups delivering aid to Africa. The info I'm passing on comes from them and therefore I trust it to be accurate and important because they think it is.

According to them th main problems are always political and 90% of the time caused by the donating countries. Western govt's give with one hand and help undermine the same countries with the other hand.

According to our friends Dave and Lynn the problems are quite fixable but both donor and receiving countries have to have people dedicated to helping in charge. I can say no more.

My condolences to your daughter's friend Charlie. It is sad.


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Posted by:

David P.

Charlie: The tragic murder of Catherine "Kate" Puzey has been a prominent news story here. Ms. Puzey, who is from Cumming, just northwest of Atlanta, had been teaching English for almost two years as a Peace Corps volunteer in the West African country of Benin.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Charlottesville

Subject: Africa

One of my daughter's close friends just lost her former college roommate who was a Peace Corps volunteer in Africa and was murdered there last week. My daugher will fly from Texas to Georgia for the memorial service this weekend since several of her close friends will be there. It's so sad to see a 24-year-old die under any circumstances, but even more so when the young woman was trying to make the world a better place. Very sad.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Steve - there are always strides being made and there are always positive steps and statistics to site. I know the money that goes there is to do good. Yet when many countries (this is based on an op-ed piece I read a while back) base there budget on world-wide contributions to sustaining, medical, agriculutural, nutitional, educational needs, it comes off smelling rotten. I'm sure you can find many cases of money just being filtered away into dictators, and various other corrupt officials pockets because it can be done, because they know the world will cry for its citizens. And there are of course, instances where charitable donations are being siphoned off to pay for military ventures. Part of the point is - that as long as many of these types of nations continue to "rely" on world wide monies to prop up their governments, they will never be much beyond "welfare" nations - used to handouts, expect handouts. Maybe that sounds tough and not so merciful but quite frankly, I'd like to see us use that money for taking care of our own poor, our own sick, our own uneducated, our own issues. We will always be a charitable nation, I have no issue, in fact, we give a decent amount of money and time to charities but with so much going on here, right around the corner, I'd rather see the money spent here, than helping prop up another welfare state half way around the world that can't run its own affairs properly.


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, you have the perception that is essential if western countries can feel good about not contributing to the cause. Now ask yourself where you got that info.

People in the field will tell you that large strides have been made since 2000. App 35,000,000 children that weren't receiving a proper education are now getting one and that is just n the last 8 years.

Then there are may successful vaccination programs that have been carried out. Great strides have been made in countries like Uganda in fighting AIDS by getting anti retro virals to people.

These are very important steps in helping countries get on their feet.

You should be proud of your country's 4 billion contribution, if I'm not mistaken it's the largest per capita in the world.

Africa, well some parts of Africa were places that Bush actually did something right.

Rwanda's medical program was a very successful example of Bush investment.It worked because there was a functioning system to put money into. The problem comes when the west puts money into countries that are not functioning well enough to handle it. This is where education and health care can help build from the bottom up. Giving money to countries and then getting the money back in exchange for our outdated military equipment to keep our client regimes in power is not really helping and does tend to keep countries and whole areas destabilized. We have to start treating countries like partners not clients and put the funding in the right hands, that's the most important step. It has to go with NO STRINGS attached but into the right hands.

Anyway, kudos to Bush for his help in Rwanda.

By the way, NO COUNTRY is on course to have the first big payment that was promised back when Bono did his big fund raiser to reduce the debt burden in Africa with all those big name rockers back a couple of years ago. 2010 is supposed to be the first big payoff year and no country is going to make it, we're all way behind on the funds they're supposed to pony up. Ah, but people in the west were able to feel good and enjoy some great music to boot so all was not lost. Let's do it again , this time with Obama, Harper, Brown and all the other new leaders that missed the last bash and that much coveted Bono handshake.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Moonquake memories

Bill M: Thank you. I've attached a Pagliaro song with the great opening line "I hung around a mental institution, they brought her in one day"

As to Moonquake, I do recall the back of the album having the guys standing around a pool table. What I remember most was the song "Remember"...I think the first song. Not sure as to the label..........I think I may have mentioned this some years back but I met Jack August late 80's through a mutual friend and shared a couple of fun nights in that crazy city Montreal. Gino Vannelli was also a friend or colleague of some sort...........


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Another Grossman Connection

Bill M: Didn't bassist Brad Campbell, who also played with Richard Bell in Janis Joplin's band, do a stint with the Paupers?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Moonquake addendum

Kevin J: Another thought popped into my head. If I correct in thinking that your Moonquake album is on the Gamma label, then it's the one that was reissued (on Aquarius?) a short time later with a different cover. Maybe Jack and the boys playing pool (cutthroat, just like our guys?), unless that was the group's second album.

Addendum to the earlier postscript: the guy who Bruce Palmer replaced on bass with Luke and the Apostles was Denny Gerrard from the Paupers - who shared successive business with relationships with the Band - first Duff Roman then Albert Grossman. Because of Grossman, Gerrard got to play bass on PP&M's "I Dig Rock And Roll Music" and on Richie Havens's "1984".


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Posted by:

David P.

Location: Quarter Moon In A Ten Cent Town

Empty Now: I've never seen the cover of the European version of "Quarter Moon...". The painting on the cover of the U.S. version was done by Susanna Clark. Ms. Clark, who is the wife of the great singer/songwriter Guy Clark, also co-wrote the opening cut on the album "Easy From Now On", along with Carlene Carter, from which the album's title derives. Band connection: Both Rick & Garth were guest musicians on the album, along with Emmylou's Hot Band.

"It's a quarter moon in a ten cent town
Time for me to lay my heartaches down
Saturday night gonna make myself a name
Take a month of Sundays to try & explain"


Entered at Thu Mar 19 15:29:20 CET 2009 from (78.146.161.239)

Posted by:

luke m

David P, nice shout-out to Kim Novak. A splendid performance (without support, according to Hitchcock's appraisal of her in a close-fitting sweater) in one of the greatest films. Its soundtrack by Bernard Herrmann is beautiful but it is also, I am finding as I explore the classical catalogue, full of fairly explicit references to works such as Schubert's 8th (Unfinished) Symphony and the orchestral preludes in Wagner's Tristan und Isolde.

Meanwhile today's Guardian list of songs about Life and Death ALSO fails to include a single one by The Band - in another category in which they excel. I suppose it's nice to know the Band is still an acquired taste but I'd be quite happy for more people to acquire it!


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Album Covers

I've thought that Wilco produces some interesting album/cd cover concepts. I've also always been partial to Roger Dean's work.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

seem quoting, no they actually quote


Entered at Thu Mar 19 14:17:42 CET 2009 from (41.209.172.239)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: continued

Every "best rock album covers" documents i consulted seem quoting among the top 10 "Dark Side of The Moon" and "Abbey Road", two albums on which Alan Parsons worked, Abbey Road cover is even more quoted than Sergent Pepper
Well-established other cover icons are Bowie's Stardust, RS Let It Bleed, Nico and The Velvet Underground (Warholl artwork), etc...

back to my personnal top 10 covers (not to confuse with the rest of mankind top 10 covers), i have two questions :

Q1 - Did J.J.Cale have any issue with the Gitanes brand of cigarettes for the "Shades" album cover ?

Q2 - to Emmylou Harris European fans out-there: anyone remembers that the vinyl of "Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town" was issued with the US cover of "Luxury Liner" ? (in general distribution rules in Continental Europe are even different than UK)

any help will be much appreciated


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: seems more than the answer is blowin' in the wind these days

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the big stink caused by The Bob's port-a-john.


Entered at Thu Mar 19 13:52:17 CET 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Hey mister can you tell me ...

... Who put the bomp?


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Posted by:

Friend0

Location: Yemensbelt

To find a place


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Don't fool yourself Steve - countries in Africa have been f***** up money they get from countries and charities for decades. Send 20 billion over and it won't make a nit of a difference as many of those countries are more corrupt than corporations here could ever manage.


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Bonus Perspective

Joan, I'm not sure if you really can't sing but I know you certainly fu*ked up the second line of The Weight which seems to have completely thrown off the rest of The Band. Either that or people don't really know where they're at on the globe. OK, everyone rest up a little before the second take.

The 3.6 billion dollars of taxpayer money that Merrill Lynch paid out to it's incompetent executives and employees is the same amount of money that the US gov't gave to the whole continent of Africa last year in aid. I guess the African continent didn't fuck up enough to deserve more. Let that be a lesson to them for the future.


Entered at Thu Mar 19 11:43:57 CET 2009 from (41.209.172.239)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: a small universe

linked, a live Satelite view of the zebra crossing near Abbey Road studios, you can even make the picture closer, the beetle Wolkswagen isn't here anymore


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Posted by:

Norbert

Location: Germany, not that far from Berlin

I JUST NEED SOME PLACE WHERE I CAN LAY MY HEAD ...

(Steve, maybe we are a too small crowd, but I'm heading to towards Amsterdam, see if I can take the thirt line too from there.)


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: singing

Very few people think I can carry a tune. Usually I need to be stoned or drunk to sing well. maybe its no better in reality, but I just don't notice :-D


Entered at Thu Mar 19 01:21:11 CET 2009 from (70.25.225.4)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Good taste runs in your family, apparently. I love one song on that Moonquake album in particular, "Don't You Try To Be My Baby". Group leader / bassist / singer was Jack August, who'd played bass on lots and lots of Pagliaro's records of the early '70s, including the excellent "Rockers" album project. Before that he performed under his original name, Jack - or Jacob - Geisinger. Going backwards through time, there was the Charlee album on RCA with Walter Rossi, an appearance on Luke and the Apostles' only record (a 45 on the True North label, produced by Gene Martynec, a Kensington Market alumnus who was also producing Bruce Cockburn and Murray MacLaughlan at the time), and membership in the absolutely brilliant Montreal band Influence, who only got to do one album - on ABC. (Group mates Bob Parkin and Wally Rossi wound up in/on Buddy Miles' "Them Changes" group and 45.) And before that, he, Miles, Rossi and I think Parkin all played together in Wilson Pickett's band. And before that, he and Rossi were in Parkin's Toronados-style combo, Bob and the Messengers.

As an aside, Geisinger's predecessor in Luke and the Apostles was Bruce Palmer from Buffalo Springfield.


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Posted by:

Steve

Location: Sherbrooke Quebec Canada 72 degrees Long.

Subject: Hope This is What You Had In MInd,Norbert

I pulled into Nazareth, was feeling about half past dead...


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

yes David, I remembered there was such a Tropicana club. And actually have wondered if there was a connection to the juice. I'm not sure if you are implying the OJ makers have that kind fo juice, or that when the mob was represented by Garotte, Dagger, Smith & Wesson the ojays cut em in .

Anyway,after David's post, it now seems it may only be a matter of time or time may have already come, that the original cana boys get around to claiming their piece of everything Americana. "Shades of Morris Levy" all over again. Man I got to finish that song.


Entered at Wed Mar 18 23:15:33 CET 2009 from p4fcae58b.dip.t-dialin.net (79.202.229.139)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: The Gathering

Haven't heard much about the GB gathering lately, maybe it's never supposed to happen (or did I miss it!).

An alternative move, on a much lesser scale of course, could be the virtual spiritual digital song relay with gathering refrain (is done before). In short; someone (doesn't matter who, as long it's near a rounding longitudinal meridian) starts singing a Band song. After one line the closest person (longitudinal meridian heading west) takes over, then the next closest person to the west starts, etc, etc. till the world is rounded. Be aware though that the refrain has to be song together.

Well performed it should create a positive vibe around the globe and cause people to spend money again, thus lifting the crisis (that's the idea behind it, theory of course)

Anyway just a thought.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

TLW review.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Crisis What Crisis? is an album cover which needs resurrecting for today, dating, as it does, from a similar era in our economic history!


Entered at Wed Mar 18 20:37:08 CET 2009 from bas4-toronto06-1242458501.dsl.bell.ca (74.14.105.133)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Album covers

An album cover that I always liked and that would go well with the current world meltdown…….Supertramp’s “Crisis? What Crisis? Anyone remember that one? Bill M will certainly be the only one to remember a personal fav from my brother’s record collection….a Canadian band called Moonquake had a great cover with a little earth floating around in the darkness…it was smiling as I recall…..


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Levon &.....

Away back in 94 I saw The Band, among others, at the King Biscuit Blues Festival in Helena Ark, which is only afew miles from Levon's homestown of Turkey Scratch. They were billed as "Levon Helm and The Band", & Levon got a hero's welcome when they headlined on Fri night(or was it Sat? its beenawhile). There were even afew "Levon for president" signs in the crowd. A very young - 16 I think - Amy sang a couple songs with them - Blues Stay Away...& at least one other. Real good show - possibly the best Cripple Creek I ever heard from them, whether the OQ or the 90's Band or any of the other lineups I saw. I've said this before - if anyone ever came up with a copy of that show they'd be my hero forever......


Entered at Wed Mar 18 18:30:28 CET 2009 from 21cust70.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.70)

Posted by:

Steve

That was my thought, Empty, the name Levon is perfect to put on the cover of any album containing the music the Band made, especially the first 2 or 3. Levon and The Hawks is probably my favorite. It's a name that's so distinctive, one of a kind. There's no need for a second name. It's a Brand name.


Entered at Wed Mar 18 18:13:46 CET 2009 from (166.129.158.215)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: D Lanois

Bill M - Thanks for that, great stuff all right


Entered at Wed Mar 18 17:42:09 CET 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

In looking around for a Daniel Lanois concert in Montreal that I thought the CBC was going to play this week, I found this one from late last year.


Entered at Wed Mar 18 17:25:57 CET 2009 from (41.209.172.240)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Bill M / Jeff

Bill M: it is said friendly

Jeff: great post -- let's face it : as soon as a listener leans toward a band or a music like that by The Band, for sure somewhere he must look for a pinch of Americana exotism
the fact is that i was seduced by Sadavid link and names such the ones suggested by Steve, the name "Levon" is the ideal one of the OQ to figure in the name Band, and the most evocative of the essence of the group and the music of the group, no matter who do what -- i am not influence d of early touring group's name nor that i am a Levon obssessed -- it's just question of how a name catch the attention of the potential consumer, taking account of marketing rules that all practice, imagine yourself in the starting block of a 100m Olympics being sure that your 7 competitors are doped
ethnic stereotyping apart, Hudson suggest a Hollywood tycoon, Robertson a B-series actor, Danko a baseball player and Manual a chicano outsider
i once posted about a curious name of a group who culminated at the top of the marketing-made-rock era. Alan Parson's Project, the formation got their name from the sound engineer, AP doesnt sing, doesnt play any instrument, doesnt write song, and doesnt do anything, he even doesnt manage the group, he just created the group, read a bit about Claude Debussy and Alan Edgard Poe, the trick worked so well that the day i posted about, someone objected that he once saw AP play acoustic guitar in a Beatles gig - pardon, it was surely the reason which catapulted him break the box-office, "Cyrius" as the official anthem of The Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan's entrance
from my little culture of the subject, all the albums of APP owe a bit to the name's connotation of "Lawyer's or Architect's group' [RS] -- btw 2 APP album covers are among my 10 favorites -- to earn more money with the same musical effort it isn't a sin, it's a necessity, that's my belief

HELM AND THE MERRY MEN

that's my suggestion if i was asked to suggest a name


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: River of Time Jorma Kaukonen

Jorma's new one is brilliant … thanks very much to Larry Campbell applying some "Dirt Farmer" magic. Levon drums on three tracks, but actually they aren't the ones that stood out to me.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: RRRacket Time

David P: I wonder if Anita Bryant ever played Havana in the bad old days?


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: A dollar short

Sure tis 'Poor Paddy'.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Gonna see what them racket boys can do...

PEU Jeff: There's definitely a duality of meaning conveyed in the name Tropicana. The wholesomeness of Florida orange juice contrasted with the debauchery of the notorious Havana nightclub in pre-Castro mobbed-up Cuba and the gambling casinos in Las Vegas & Atlantic City.


Entered at Wed Mar 18 16:22:39 CET 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

I've been listening fairly intently to Van Morrison's "Bang Masters" CD, which I'm coming to see as an important artifact of the period (i.e., late '60s). We seem to have the guitarist from BJ Thomas's "Eyes Of A New York Woman" all over the place. We have a couple of songs (notably "Beside You") that have a reasonable claim to be prototypes for the Stones' "Exile on Main Street" (which many people approve of, apparently), and we seem to have a couple of stabs at having the anonymous troops do their best to sound like Dylan and company did during the great electrified music scare of the middle sixties. The most amusing is where - and here I'm guessing - Big Brother and the Holding Company (minus Janis Joplin) is told to do their utmost to sound like the Hawks on the otherwise worthy "Joe Harper Saturday Morning". And if all else fails, there's always two takes of the always-pleasing BEG. Plus there's an implicit reference to our guys in the liner notes" "Just as the delayed release of 'The Basement Tapes' helped explain how Bob Dylan got all the way from 'Blonde on Blonde' to 'John Wesley Harding' so quickly, the 'Bang Masters' help us understand how Van Morrison made the leap from the churning R&B of Them to the gentle transcendence of 'Astral Weeks'".


Entered at Wed Mar 18 14:55:28 CET 2009 from itac-gw.yyz.teloip.net (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Steve: The problem is not that everything is left to the various ground crews but that the ground crews too often believe that everything has been left to them - even if that's contrary to the 'word' that they profess to follow scrupulously.

Empty N: Barkers at the GB - that must be a reference to Robbie Robertson, whose songs so often contained carnival / circus references. And there's the movie "Carny". And then there's Neil Young's "Sugar Mountain, with its barkers and coloured balloons".

The link above is to my favourite LP cover, for what it's worth.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Empty, Levon and The Hawks, or even Levon and The Sqawks, was a commercialy viable name for the times, Or maybe even more so , the times that they were Levon and The Hawks. But when they were Levon and The Hawks, they were not really recording more than a neglible amount of "original" songs.

And though no one here should need me or anyone to tell them this, The Band was the perfect name for the songs and music they made as The Band. It was also the perfect name for the times. The issue may or may not be that the times were not yet commercialized the way that they were later, or that one or some Band member or memebers were not yet who they later evolved into ( different readers can find various ways to interpret that according to however they choose for there own reasons. Had, at the height of the late sixties and seventies boom, some big marketing macher figured out how to best capitalize on the sixites then, the way they marketed it later, The Band may have been more notorious at the time. Then again, probably not, cause one of The Band members may have said, We don't jam, or driven a corvette thru a street level window advertismeent, or got interuppted banging The President's daughter and/or wife at a inaugaral party.

Then again, my theory could be wrong, after all the sixties and seventies got marketed pretty heavily when they were happening. The Band's music was the perfect music for the times. The issue could just always be the popular level of discernment. And the fact that those guys then were never going to change the way they did things. And regardless of what he said a few years later or many years later, the Robbei Robertson that participated in the first two to four maybe even 5, Band albums, was not the Robbie Robertson that invented and showed up for The Last Waltz and every thing since. The first two albums . Of course he was doing his darwin the whole time, but the Robbie Robertson that was involved in those first two records didn't SEEM to place a lot whole lot of value on being rich, famous, a household name, or a business executive. If he did, he SHOULD HAVE WON A OSCAR FOR THAT PERFORMANCE!

HELL, IF HE DID HE SHOULD GET A OSCAR LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD NOW.

Now there are people who will say levon changed too. But my gut tells me he is pure as the Dirt Farmer.

Electric Dirt coming up!

And Steve, Empty, I still hate that term Americana. Tropicana, now that's a good name. Sooner or late the holder s of that Tropicana TM will get around to suing companies who use cana in their name,. Its just a matter of time. I mean Americana is a clear ripoff of Tropicana, no?


Entered at Wed Mar 18 13:01:42 CET 2009 from (41.209.172.240)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Steve / dlew919

Steve: nevermind, but something tells me that a name of that style (specially your suggestion) would surely helped our guys to earn much more money over the era than a common_anonymous brand name

dlew919: thanks for sharing, the composition is awesome.
there are many reasons, the phare song of the album is among them "Rutheless Queen", i remember i've read somewhere by past the name of both the photographer and the girl on the picture, bizarre, not the kind to easily forget her name, one evident reason could be the onirical feeling of the kind "ah!!! if death really comes under this form...", in reality the whole composition is awesome

talking of pictures and signatures, following a recent anecdote involving Pablo Picasso i posted, here's a 2nd one which is seemingly true:
After a lunch at a famous restaurant in Paris, the waiter just wanted Pablo to pay with a drawing scribbled on the tablecloth, that's what Pablo did. As he was leaving the restaurant, the waiter re-called to add the wellknown signature "Picasso" on scribble, to which pablo replied, "we agreed to pay the lunch, not to buy the restaurant", eh oui that's the power of a signature and all the diference between to be called "The Band" and to be called see Steve's proposition below


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Posted by:

dlew919

Web: My link

Subject: Empty Now: why that one?

Why do you like that cover in particular (it's a fine cover - don't get me wrong)... I've linked one of my favourite covers.


Entered at Wed Mar 18 11:25:31 CET 2009 from 21cust203.tnt2.sherbrooke.pq.da.uu.net (64.11.26.203)

Posted by:

Steve

Empty, I prefer, The Levon Helm Band, if you're going to go down that road, it's more inclusive. .Or possibly Levon Helm's Americana Band.


Entered at Wed Mar 18 09:38:01 CET 2009 from 82-69-47-175.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Vertigo

Vertigo … yes, Gentle Giant were there (with magnificent sleeve designs too). Vertigo was the progressive label of Philips in Europe, and at the time Philips and Polydor had formed Phonogram to jointly exploit their resources, which would explain those wonderful Vertigo swirls being replaced by Polydor’s plain red. There was a sudden flurry of “prog labels” in the UK which were in response to the success of the Immediate and Track Record labels. Island converted itself from a Caribbean / soul label into a prog label almost overnight and led the field throughout. Decca switched its new Deram label to prog, EMI started Harvest, and Pye launched Dawn and RCA launched Neon. Vertigo and Harvest are extremely collectable, because (a) their sleeves are always so good (b) it’s rumoured that some of the rarest Vertigo releases only had 1000 copies pressed. I spend a great deal of time in secondhand record stores. A few years ago, Vertigo and Harvest LPs were rare but expensive. Now you don’t see them at all (apart from Pink Floyd and ELO who were mega sellers on Harvest).


Entered at Wed Mar 18 09:38:32 CET 2009 from (41.209.172.242)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: freedom of barking

Levon Helm and The Band should has been the official registred name from the begining ...at last rumours seem to be true

Bill M: i'm glad that you enjoyed, that cover fascinated me for decades

Steve: those debates around freedom of speech seem never ending, the linked above excerpt from a movie of Belmondo says it all, it's particularly enjoyable at 2:05, that's what i call freedom of speech

Sadavid: great to read you again

anyone still interested with the freedom of speech debate wait for the reaction of the official barkers of The GB to the first line of this post, or wait for what they will think but cannot post


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Posted by:

Josh Freeborn

Location: A small town in canada
Web: My link

Subject: Great Album

Great sound


Entered at Wed Mar 18 02:39:57 CET 2009 from h091147009079.ys.dsl.sakhalin.ru (91.147.9.79)

Posted by:

kate

Web: My link

great site! Thanks!


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Worst album covers

Glad everybody enjoyed the link. It sure made me laugh out loud. I was wondering about that one too Charley Y.

I watched "Mcabe and Mr's Miller last night and I really think it may be my favorite Robert Altman films and maybe even would make my top five favorite films of all time. It just gets better and better. And the Leonard Cohen songs are so beautifully used in the film.


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Posted by:

Steve

That's the problem, isn't it Bill. Everything is left to the various ground crews.

Kevin I finally did some checking around the net to see what reviews or discussions are available on the subject.

Seems the main complaint and the cause( aside from the Khomeini angle which also sounds legit)of the fatwa is that if you remember in the story, Mahound ( which is a Christian degradation of Muhammad's name)originally tells the population that they can still worship 3 of their gods as well as Allah. he later recants this message from Allah.

This was called the Satanic verses because it's Satan, pretending to be Allah, who's whispering in Muhammad's ear, that tricky little devil.

This event is supposed to have been recorded by Islamic scholars. Muhammad later denied it after having acknowledged it earlier.

So the fatwa was officially set in motion because of this passing off of the Satanic Verses as having actually happened.

I guess I should have done this bit of research months ago. What an eeeedgit!


Entered at Tue Mar 17 22:22:44 CET 2009 from (85.255.44.145)

Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Shake it 'cross the dance floor! Record and licensing contract signing this week. Club and festival gigs lined up for months to come. Retirement awaits for this old man soon... :-)


Entered at Tue Mar 17 22:19:53 CET 2009 from wireless.10.ccis.net (209.195.208.10)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Location: The Office

Subject: Vertigo

As I recall the first couple of Gentle Giant albums were on Vertigo. There must have been some Vertigo-Polydor connection, because they later appeared on Polydor. But I think by that time the band itself was on Capitol in the States.

And yes, I have gone BARKing mad, with Kings of Love and BARK in heavy rotation...waiting for track 12 to finish so I can go home!


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Fothcoming Bobby D

New Dylan Album


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Posted by:

Bill M

Given we're talking about humans, it's understandable that the devout believers (and even casual ones) are offended when fun is poked at central figures of their religion. But to call for somebody to be killed for what they said about a deity or prophet is to presume to speak for that deity - which is in itself blasphemy. Surely an offended deity is fully capable of taking care of the Rushdies of the world without help from earthlings.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: those verses satanic

the other point is that the ayatollah khomeini took offense, believing one of the characters was baaed on him.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Man Who Sold The World & Washed His Hands

In 1951 Nikos Kazantzakis was accused of blasphemy by many when he published "The Last Temptation Of Christ". Martin Scorsese's 1988 film adaptation resurrected the controversy and faced similar condemnation & bans. The film cast Willem Dafoe as Jesus, Barbara Hershey as Mary Magdalene, Harvey Keitel as Judas and David Bowie as Pontius Pilate. Peter Gabriel, who sang with Robbie Robertson on "Fallen Angel" composed the film soundtrack for Scorsese.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve: See name of main character, name of brothel and the section dealing with the satanic verses…….insensitive to say the least!


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Posted by:

Steve

That's true Kevin, but I'm still not sure what line you're saying he crossed, honestly. I kept waiting for it as I read the book but never saw anything I could point to as having crossed some line that shouldn't be crossed. What exactly was the sin that deserved a death sentence?


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Carol Kaye

YouTube: Carol Kaye - The First Lady of Bass

see also Carol Kaye's homepage: http://www.carolkaye.com


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, we could join in cahoots and promote them together as Tinder-Barks.

Hi Sadavid. It must be spring!


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Vinyl Siding

If I recall correctly, the U.S. LP version of Manfred Mann's Chapter 3 was released on the Polydor label and featured a different cover from that of the U.K. version. I believe I still have my old Polydor copy.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Steve: accepted on being straightforward……as to S. Rushdie………I joined that discussion a few weeks back reluctantly and then only to point out what an absurd spectacle that whole period was. Just as the Rush Limbaugh’s of this world make me sick so do arrogant, self-righteous intellectuals who fail to understand that there is no absolute standard of free speech in any society…… He did get to sleep with Padma Lakshmi though!!

On a lighter note, I was at a bar last night and Dylan's "The Levee's gonna Break" came on.full volume......the place literally started to jump.....nice to see!


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Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: How nice to hear from you! I was beginning to wonder if you too had taken a senior job in Washington.

NB: The Wellesley? If so, I hope you wheeled her out to Yonge on Sunday for the St Pat's parade. We wheeled an aged gent out of the place for last year's parade - highlight of his year. Anyway, if it is the Wellesley, the Lettieri at the SE corner of Church and Wellesley was exceptionally helpful and accommodating with us and him.

Also, while you were otherwise engaged, Steve snuck in an made another convert to BARK (Bassmanlee); Fred Eaglesmith's fading in the stretch and I can't recover the situation alone!

Re Vertigo, good for David P for remembering the Ian Matthews albums on that label. And Peter V for the ManMann Chap 3; I have a vague recollection of loving but losing their second album, which I think had a really stupid cover. I do still have the second Vertigo album by a forgotten group called May Blitz, which was journeyman British drummer Tony Newman plus two Canucks from Vancouver Island, Reid Hudson and James Black. Heard of 'em, Westcoaster?


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Howdy, y'all.

"Levon Helm and the Band" are name-checked in this review of a new Buddy & Julie Miller release.

See [My link].


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Columbia Records

The Hampton Grease Band's 1971 album "Music To Eat" was reportedly the second-worst-selling album in the history of Columbia Records at the time, just behind a yoga instructional record in sales. The double-LP release from this Atlanta group has since become treasured item for record collectors, as their avant-garde approach sounded like Captain Beefheart meets the Mahavishnu Orchestra. Band connection: Frontman Bruce Hampton later appeared in the movie "Sling Blade" as the lyricist for Doyle's (Dwight Yoakam) jamming buddies, who also included Mickey Jones and Athens, Ga. musician Vic Chesnutt. Also of interest to Canadians is that "Music To Eat" included an ode to Halifax, featuring lyrics straight from an encyclopedia description of the city.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Vertigo

There are several very worthy Vertigo albums (Manfred Mann's Chapter Three stands out), I meant that overall, the percentage of good albums to weaker ones is a lot lower than (e.g.) Island. It's difficult comparing labels, because you could name more great CBS ones (US Columbia) over five years than even Island, but i'd guess that there's a huge number of crap ones too because they released so much more. Some labels have an unusually high percentage of good things. But even a great label like Atlantic had possibly the worst band of the mid 70s, Bony M.


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Posted by:

NB

Subject: test

Hi.


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Posted by:

Northern Boy

Subject: High On The Hogtown

Hi Stevon/Bill. Thank you both for the wordplay. I'm in Hogtown again (what's shakin' here in the Big Bacon, Bill ?)visiting my mom daily in a stroke rehab hospital.

Speaking of wordplay, last night I dined and Guinnessed at Fionn McCool's Irish Pub. Free Jamesons samples, free beer mug, jig and reel dancers,and a two-for-one Guinness coupon. Lagniapes galore ! Guess what they called this March 16th pre-Paddy's Day celebration ? ST. PRACTICE DAY ! I thought that was clever.

I took mom home for the weekend;she dashed off two pieces on her piano without a hitch. No stroke damage to that partof her life at least.Sunday I took her to Hart House Bill, for a classical guitar concert (Andrew Mah)and lunch at the Gallery Grill.NB


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Posted by:

Jeb Stuart

On St. Patrick's Day, a terrible rendezvous at Kelly's Ford.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Vertigo, Rolling Thunder & Whatever Happened To Kim Novak?

Peter: Ian Matthews' two great albums from the early '70s, "If You Saw Thro' My Eyes" and "Tigers Will Survive", were released on the Vertigo label.

David Kemper is also known for his work with T Bone Burnett. They were also both part of Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue band, which spun off into the Alpha Band, who recorded several fine, but obscure, albums on the Arista label.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Empty N: Thanks for the links, though I've only opened the first. I had no idea that Lorena Bobbit cut an album.


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Posted by:

Steve

It could be said, in a way, it was Pelham's beauty that put him in harm's way.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Martha Scanlan & Byron Isaacs team up this wk for some CA live dates.

Martha Scanlan will be playing four great shows in California this week, accompanied by Byron Isaacs (of Ollabelle) on lap steel & bass. Wednesday 3/18 Freight & Salvage Berkeley, CA Thursday 3/19 The Palms, Winters, CA Saturday 3/21 The Lobero Theater, Santa Barbara, CA Sunday 3/22 The Crepe Place, Santa Cruz, CA


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Posted by:

my 45th Annual Dedication

Location: Alabama

Subject: The Gallant Pelham

A dedication to the Gallant Pelham, who was mortally wounded on March 17th back in '63. Known as "the boy major," he was a companion to Beauty, and he touched the lives of many. He was remembered by a comrade as "the bravest man I ever saw."


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Posted by:

Peter V

A couple of vinyl finds last week. One is The Brothers & Sisters (with Merry Clayton) doing The Mighty Quinn on CBS in 1969. Fine vocal performances (from Dylan Gospel) and they shake the song to pieces as if the coming of “my man Quinn” (as Clayton interjects) is the second coming. One of many cases where vocalists didn’t stop and think about the lyrics. Way better than anything on Saved though.

The other was an Atlantic 45, City Man & A Country Girl by Billy Vera and Judy Clay. I didn’t know it at all, and while it doesn’t quite make the heights of Private Number, it’s the best find in a year.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Ah: a parody - well, that's all right then.... And Norm

When you spoke of a 'ridiculous Aussie', I thought 'What have I done now', but boy, did I laugh at your story! Could you keep us posted on my unfortunate countryman?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Early Vertigo LPs are my all-time favourite centre label, that's for sure. It was a pity they reduced the logo to a small circle after a couple of years. Watching a Vertigo label spinning was a dizzying experience indeed. Early Vertigo LPs, like Harvest LPs and pink-label Island, have all but disappeared from the second hand stores. Vertigo and Harvest always had great covers, nice gatefolds etc which may be why they're so highly collectable. The musical content, overall, is less interesting than the art and design content.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

the song which goes with it, any psychanalysis comment is welcome


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

linked is my all-time favorite album cover, surprise it's a Vertigo label


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Bill: I liked your line about the toilet paper--though I notice the trend is away from jewel cases and toward "eco-friendly" packages.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: no place for guess who

UK's Guardian newspaper is running a series on 1000 songs to hear before you etc - no big surprise to find no Band song in the Love Songs entry on Saturday, but a bit poor to find no place in their 'People and Places' (a Band specialty) section today. Unless I missed something... Is there a song on TBTB alone that shouldn't make a list of great songs about People and Places?


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Revisiting

I'm revisiting Frankie Miller just now. It's an amazing array of artists who covered his songs, including Bellamy Brothers, Ray Charles, Rod Stewart, Travelling Willburys, Delbert McLinton and many others


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Posted by:

Steve

Subject: Suspicious Minds

Kevin you know I never hold things back or beat around the bush. If you know nothing else about me you should know that. I prefer direct action, nothing left to the imagination.

Now that you mention The Satanic Verses, it reminds me that once you had revealed you'd read the book you never gave me your official view on what exactly caused the fatwa to be issued. Please tell.


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Posted by:

Kevin

Subject: Pots and kettles

Someone must of stolen Steve’s copy of The Satanic Verses…he’s in a bit of tizzy…..I’d bend back your finger and leave you running from the arena in tears but I discarded my Mohawk old lady act sometime back…….as to Kemper, I had no doubt as to his position……it was you I was suspicious of…... Glad to see that you have spit out/taken off that pink scarf….took a while but we all feel a bit better off for it………………..


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Posted by:

Steve

Kevin, this is just advice not necessary to take it of course but GET OVER IT. Spit or something will you, get it all out.Maybe I can over and pat you on the back while you're hacking that thing up you got stuck in your craw.

Mr Kemper never even hinted in any way he was owed anything, I'm not sure where you got that opinion of the man. In the interview he seemed to be impressed with how easily songs come out of BOB, even at this point in his career.

He was nothing but completely in awe of working with Bob.

Now please try really hard not to take anything evil out of this next Kemper story; Kemper said that while he was playing with Bob he'd do 1things like bring a couple of albums by an artist to rehearsals and have the band work on them and he sing the songs and work on them til they had them polished.

What had band members wondering about these sessions is that they'd never play any of these songs in concerts no matter how much they worked on a song.

These artists ranged from old southern blues men to Dean Martin.

He said one day Dylan was trying to get the band on the same page as him when trying to record a new song, Summer Days, I think, and the band just wasn't playing in the style he wanted and he said I want you to play it like , and he named one of the old blues players they'd done some songs by, and at that moment the band understood what he'd been doing because they were able to step right into what he wanted and the song worked the way Dylan wanted.

He said over a year of playing and rehearsing he took them on a journey through 20th century American music. Kemper described it as the most he's learned about music at any time in his life.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Charlie Y: I trust you chose the tp. Even the cheaper brands don't scrape as much as a jewel case.

Kevin J: Solely on the basis of his own testimony in the song, Paul Simon's ex composed most the lyrics to "50 Ways". I'll bet she didn't get a writing credit though.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Music

JQ: I just got the Neko Case CD mainly because I got it cheap and I knew Garth was on it. I like a lot of her previous work and have to admit the cover drew me in as well. I will listen to that on my drive to Pennsylvania tomorrow.

The other disc I got for that trip is a CD which was quietly released last year after a ten year delay. Due to some sort of technical problem with the master recordings the long-rumored Arlo Guthrie sessions with bluegrass legends The Dillards were delayed a decade. The songs are all ones written by Arlo's father. The title of the disc is really dated now as it refers to the commemorative Woody Guthrie stamp which was new back when the sessions were recorded: "Thirty-Two Cents/Postage Due."

I also wanted to comment regarding a recent discussion of how popular the Ramones are. I noticed a multi-disc exclusive Ramones CD package at my local Costco warehouse store store, somewhere between a similar pack of Foreigner CDs and a 40-pack of toilet paper. That's pretty mainstream, I'd say...


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Posted by:

Peter V

In my travels through Record Fairs in the UK, I’ve met several guys who see The Band only as “used to play with Ronnie Hawkins” rather than “Big Pink” or “Used to play with Dylan.” Ronnie is much revered among fairly bulky men aged 65 to 70 with long white hair and Eddie Cochran T-shirts (and Triumph 650s in the car park).


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: You Can't Always get What You Want and I don't want anyone's e-mail

A local hobo in Minnesota named Jimmy Hutmaker told Mick Jagger that “you can’t always get what you want” when the later was left empty handed after searching for a cherry coke……..the lovely Michelle Phillips got half of “California Dreamin” for holding a pen……….Kemper contributed something to “Cold Irons Bound” – in his view at least – but nothing ever came of it. In that very interview that Bill M and I had referenced earlier RR says with respect to W.S. Walcott Medicine Show: ‘Levon told me the story…I wrote the song”………..the tricky tricky questions of credit………..


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Posted by:

henry

Subject: none

The Band - can't get enough! henry henryadrew63@yahoo.com


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Posted by:

almarmeyer@hotmail.com

what ho! Love this stuff... nice to see so many on the guestbook here. alma almarmeyer@hotmail.com


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Posted by:

Steve

I heard a great interview with some of Dylan's musicians last night talking about touring and recording Love and Theft and a couple of other more recent albums.

From drummer David Kemper; I was driving to the studio early one morning through the Latino area of LA and heard this interesting drum beat being played over a really loud sound system, it stuck in my head.

When I got to the studio I started playing it over and over til my muscles had it memorized and then I started slowing it down. Bob walked in and I stopped and said hi to him but he just said keep playing that. Bob walked to a desk and started writing while I kept thumping out the rhythm. When the rest of the band showed up Bob stepped up to a mike and started singing,Cold Irons Bound.

Kemper also said that when he first played with Bob the band was leaving a show in a big SUV and people were climbing all over the car and banging on the windows. Kemper said he must have really looked panicked because Bob asked him what was wrong. Kemper told Bob he was actually scared, someone might get hurt. He said, Bob just said, "relax it's cool, it's only love."


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Worst Album Covers

Quentin Tarantino screens “Rio Bravo” for all prospective girlfriends….if they like it….they’re in….if not…..see ya later………..with respect to Kristie’s great “worst album covers” link, my position would be that anybody with over 5 of these albums in his/her collection would not get into any band I am part of……If forced to do an entry test on just owners of these albums……..easy: Louvin Brothers - you’re in!……………..The Singing Postman – you’re out!


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: the two most famous liner notes mismatches in Rock history : & for I and c for n

The more i try to follow your lessons Ilkka ”how to read empty’s posts” the less I understand empty’s posts

I believe that some The Band fans are still interested with fine details related with liner notes of giant Rock albums. at one letter
Anybody who ever owned the “greatest selling record in Rock history” Eagles album “Their Greatest Hits” 1975, yes the one carved with the birdhead, all the Warner German editions 1975 and after, should have noticed that the “most listened to track in rock history” – Take it Easy – is credited, and just after the song on the vinyl center label, “3:31 - G.Frey & J.Browce”, for decades I investigated the reasons why the “c” ended up in the place of the “n”, on my keyboard there are 2 keys of separation, it will remain a whole mystery, the hardest problem was to convince Eagles profanes [how do they call this? intentional visual perception phenomenon] that J.Browce is actually JACKSON BROWNE, the true one
Worse than the type mismatch there is the read mismatch – “no life I fear”, it’s what he says at 1:05 for real, not “no life AND fear” – i can't buy that all who ever transcript the lyrics from Kansas album “point of know return” 1977, still make the same error, the liner notes are written in a curious script font where a unusual “I” letter looks strangely like the usual “&” (the comercial AND) – I find it just unacceptable how all followed the same error, me the French speaker


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: their back pages

Thanks Mike for posting the interviews, and to Kevin for pointing me to them. So much of it seems surprisingly fresh, even after all these years. I really liked reading Rick talk about how he approached playing bass, and Robbie talking about British rockers coming up to them while they were with Dylan, trying to talk them into returning to rockabilly! Imagine, some people in the halls there were booing not because Dylan wasn't playing like he used to but because the Hawks weren't playing like THEY used to. Like Rick Nelson said, "You can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself."


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: windicity

I'm always the last to know, so this may not come as news to most of you. The reason why the GB's favourite Democrat has stopped posting is simple: "Pat B" is really "Barack O", and is otherwise engaged. I can think of no other answer that accords with the evidence available to us. (Has anyone ever seen them together? I thought not!) However, I cannot accept any suggestion that the missing Bumbles is really Hillary C.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Rock's backpages

That link to a Band interview that Mike posted is interesting. The name drop of Lee Dorsey……..Rick Danko being astute enough in 1969/1971 to know how tape/film of a bad performance at Woodstock would have come back to haunt the band………Rick expressing how Robbie is his favorite writer…….Robbie struggling with how to explain the “Canadian sound” to the interviewer…….I’ll never listen to Rag Mama Rag the same way again! Rick and Robbie were, I believe, 27 or 28 years old at the time. They had already changed the rock world twice by this time. Nowadays, kids that age are still living in their parents basement playing “Guitar Hero III”…………..

bob w’s link to the “rock-poet” has a sad news notice on Imus having stage II prostrate cancer. I hadn’t known this ……..eat your fibre boys and girls…..


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Posted by:

Any Day Now

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Just testing :-)

I have always thought that "EMPTY NOW" is the coolest signature here. Maybe I should change my name to "ANY DAY NOW". BTW thanks ROZ for this hint!


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Spotting Band related artists

Here in Nordic countries I am not spoiled of spotting Band related artists. Yesterday I saw PLURA JONSSON from ELDKVARN rushing out from a shop in the finest district in Stockholm. As a contrast to all this glamour he was wearing jeans which reminded me like of harem pants and he looked like a hobo. Actually, he looked cool and was doing just fine! Our Webseitenfuhrer ;-) has called him "Dylan of the North" here in this gb. I don't agree with him. I call Dylan for "Plura of Iron Range".


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: it's only a Northern Boy song ...

Steve: Thanks for clearing up that troubling line in "Lady Madonna". I'd always thought it was "Did you think that money was Heaven sent", but now I know it's "Heaven's cent." Makes better cents in some ways, eh?


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Middle Cyclone - Neko Case

Anybody else dig into this yet? I'm a big fan and remain so, but this one is a small disapointment so far.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Further On Down The Road

Taj Mahal released an excellent album last year, "Maestro", celebrating 40 years of playing his diverse blend of blues & world music. In addition to the Phantom Blues Band, guests including Los Lobos, Ben Harper, Jack Johnson, Ziggy Marley's Band, Ivan Neville, Angelique Kidjo & Toumani Diabete lend a hand as Maestro Mahal proves he's still a unique talent.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Web: My link

Subject: Album covers

The 'Sour Cream and Other Delights' album cover, as frightening as it may be to some, was a parody of the wildly popular Herb Alpert album 'Whipped Cream and Other Delights' which featured a comely lass covered in whipped cream seductively licking some of said confection from her finger (see link). A bit of early feminist commentary in 1965. I actually remember seeing the 'Sour Cream' cover in the day and thinking it was pretty funny.

Mid-way through BARK's 'Kings of Love', which arrived over the weekend along with BARK. So far so good. The variety is sometimes startling, but in a good way. Each song is completely different from the one before.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Bob W.: Oh dear...; Kristie

Thanks for that.

Oh and Kristie: belated thanks for worst album covers - I'd seen most of them before. Hell, I OWN most of them ;-) ... but seriously that cover of the matronly nanas covered in sour cream was so horrific, I've had to charge the album company at the Hague for abuses to human rights ...


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.....


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Posted by:

Steve

Northern Boy, if you're around this one sounds right up your alley.

As I continue through the Time Life series on the US Civil War I came across a chapter on chaplains and other clergy members who traveled with the troops. This one reminded me of your way with words; Many of these people wrote letters or mailed letters for the troops who couldn't write or were injured. One chaplain charged the soldiers one cent for every letter he handled. The soldiers referred to him as "The One Sent By God".


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Margolis 'Woodstock Times" March 12th "Mt. Jam" online article.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: 1971 online The Band interview / article from Rocks Back Pages.


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks Charlie for explaining that album cover, I looked at it for a minute or so and couldn't figure it out.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

well, made it to the end of the vid, and yes, it is Taj. Guess I'm out of date, ain't seen Taj in ages. Sounded different too,


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

who's the guy does the Crazy Chester verse in the vid? Doesn't sound like or look to be Taj, could it have been Floyd Miles, who tours in Gregg's band?



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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levon Helm joining Allman Bros. on "The Weight" @ the Beacon.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Various

I wish I'd been at the Beacon for the guest appearance by Levon and friends with the Allman Brothers. A friend of mine was there Friday night but I haven't heard if there were any surprise guests that night.

Bob: I just listened that Cropper-Cavaliere CD the other day and agree completely with your comments. Felix wrote so many urgent, upbeat songs in his prime that it's really disappointing to hear that great voice wasted on dull songs.

Kristie: I loved that link to those awful album covers. I actually do own one of those. It was #37 on that list, an LP by a guy named Ken Nordine, whose work was once described as "word jazz." He came out of the same beat poetry era that produced the legendary Los Angeles performer who went by the name Lord Buckley (whose unique recordings were reissued on Frank Zappa's Bizarre Record label and are still available today). Mr. Nordine has been named as an influence on some of the work of the great Tom Waits and he'll be 89 years old next month. I think his was one of the few album covers in that group which was intended to be repulsive, a photo featuring a bathroom door either smoke damaged or mildewed, adorned with what looks like an enema bag, propped up on a smog-surrounded Southern California hillside.


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Posted by:

Steve

Dlew if I knew anything about the B52's I'd join in, but I don't, unless you're talking about the planes,in which case I know more than I want to know.

Peter, you're mention of your reggae music is timely. I was introduced to mento music today for the first time. Mento begat Ska, which begat reggae, at least that's the history as explained by a musical historian who has been doing a series on CBC radio called the 20 songs that changed the world. Today was Marley with I Shot The Sheriff

Each week he spends half an hour on one song. With reggae he's taken his first step outside of North American or European songs.

Dylan's electric adventure with the O4 in 66 was covered when he did a half hour segment on, Like A Rolling Stone, the 66 tour version.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levon, Larry & Teresa join the Allmans to perform "Ophelia" @ the Beacon.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Deep Elum Blues from 03/06/09 Beacon Theater.


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Posted by:

Peter V

On which (Happy Birthday, Ry), Ry Cooder is the exception which proves the rule. Each new album is completely different and full of surprises.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Older Guys

I'm in the same position wondering whether to buy J.J. Cale's Roll Over. The last one was very proficient and beautifully played, but lacking (to me at least) in standout material. On the other hand, I now have Hayes Carll album which is excellent.

The most interesting things Bono has done recently are his contributions to Across The Universe OST (I Am The Walrus, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds). I didn't even consider investigating the new U2 album (which Word gave an award for most boring sleeve design!). I may be wrong.

Anyway, I'm in a "reggae revisited" phase with Catch-A-Fire being revisited two or three times a week for the last couple of months. One of the all-time great albums.


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Posted by:

Mike

Definitely agree w/Peter & Bob's older musician song quality (i.e - Stones, U2, Aerosmith, etc). Although, did like the Stones' '05 album for the most part. When the bands revert back to their old methods & roots, they seem to somewhat tap into their old magic. Otherwise, its just recycled leveled off noise.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Happy b'day Ry Cooder (turns 62).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, that's often the problem with great players / singers from way back. New stuff often falls down on the quality of the songs. Wish I'd mentioned it before I ordered it … but anyway, Steve Cropper's guitar and Felix Cavaliere's voice are always good.


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Posted by:

bob w.

That appears to be the same album that was released mid 2008. Not sure if there are any changes in the song list. While the musicianship and vocals are top rate, I found the quality of the songs somewhat disappointing. There are a few worthy compositions but the album is quite uneven to my ear. It always comes back to the songs.

I will say that Felix Cavaliere's voice sounds as vibrant as it did when he delivered those great Rascals tunes.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Alan Livingston passes away.

The frmr Capitol Records president who signed the Beatles, produced the tv show Bonanza & created Bozo the Clown passed away recently.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Nudging It Up A Notch

Just saw an advert for this new Steve Cropper / Felix Cavaliere album. And it's on the STAX label. Thought it might interest a few here. Released March 16th.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Straw Poll: the B-52s

I like tham a great deal, but how did they get so big? (It's not exactly undeserved; but they're not an 'arena band' - small pumping club? you betcha!) What do others think?


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Dreamland Studios of West Hurley, NY to open.

The century-old church started by a monk is reopening after closing in '05 due to smaller studio competition. It has played host to the B-52s, 10,000 Maniacs & many others.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Michael Lang & Artie Kornfeld upcoming radio interview.

Link to the radio station to feature a March 17th 10 PM rare interview between the two Woodstock '69 Festival producers.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Subject: Montreal

Ah, so good to see Jersey Girl is back. Never fired you. You shall be a behind the scenes "consigliere". I just never knew wether to forward the cheques to Morrisville or South Carolina. I will be convening a confab in the clubhouse of Gulfstream Park on March 22. Ask for the guitarist from Rush and they'll lead you to my table. If you thought that Landmark story, given 3 1/2 years ago in Norbert's GB was an odd story, this one is even better. Thanks for the kind wishes Bob.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Loss - and justice?

For those that we have lost in that tragedy on the east coast, may their love ease the pain for those left behind.

As always my boy who tends those helicopters and his mates who trust each other with their lives, dedicate this passage to their brothers in arms:

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.

For he today that sheds his blood with me,

Shall be my brother, be he ne'er so vile.

This day shall gentle his condition.

And gentlemen in England now-a-bed,

Shall think themselves accurs'd, they were not here.

And hold their manhoods cheap whilest any speaks,

That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.....

In absolute contrast. Two days ago a guy fell over board off a tug just below Campbell River, at Cape Mudge. He was the Captain!

A guy who is rediculous, from Australia, here for many years now, is drunk most of the time. Puts his crew in peril every time he leaves the dock. He went outside for a whiz, stumbled and fell over the side. The crew thought he was in the shower and never stopped. A fish boat picked him up about an hour later.

This sounds funny, but is a "fact" he is so fat, the doctors said, that's all that saved his life. I don't know the water temperature, but, it was minus eight celcius that day.

Now the real corker is, he's trying to get Workers Compensation to give him a life time pension so he never has to work. He's too "Frightened to step on the boat is his story." Good gawd damn!


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Posted by:

Steve

Kristie, can't say I've ever seen any of those covers, I SWEAR, but enjoyed having them all in one place like for a quick viewing. There were some great ones.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Atlantic Blue

Bill, ironic you should refer to 'Atlantic Blue' the day after another ocean tragedy. The ocean and all that goes with it is a never ending inspiration for songwriters.

Jeez, The Swamp Dog (until recently I never knew Little Jerry and the Dog were one and the same) had TWO entries in the 'Worst Album Cover' feature.

Been a long week and I'm working all weekend too so it's a short whisk(e)y, a little John Prine ('In Spite of Ourselves' which I find hilarious and hard core Priners hate) and early to bed.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jersey Girl\ Kristie

Jersey girl, nice to hear from you. It's been a while.

Kristie: After seeing those album covers, I'm pretty well left speechless. :-D


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Posted by:

bill m

Web: My link

Subject: Robbie Robertson, mentioned in passing

The link above is to a Toronto Star article about an upcoming tribute concert. Robbie Robertson is mentioned as one of the people the organisers are (or should be) going after. Presumably the writer knows more than he lets on, as a follow-up article the next day says that Steven Page has confirmed; it adds that Randy Bachman (a close friend of Young's, as we know) headlines an all-guitars, all-the-time performance at the same festival, so maybe his Neilship will turn up too?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kristie: I know Joe J's gonna want that Swamp Dogg album!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just downloaded "She Left Me For Jesus" and played it twice. I'll get the album. The one in a vaguely related style that's been on replay this week is The Bellamy Brothers "Do you love as good as you look". It was playing in a secondhand record store and I picked it up. It's one I'd long forgotten, but it sounds great.


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Posted by:

bill m

Web: My link

Subject: Daniel Lanois interview, mentions Band

If you click on the link and scroll about halfway down you'll find a longish interview with Daniel Lanois, including a couple of studio videos. Here's the mention of our guys:

Q: Tell me about another of your co-compositions, Moment of Surrender.

A: That was an ensemble composition. It had that great Eno/Mullen thing from the get go. A kind of rolling hand drum. And the original sketch had me in charge of the chorus. Bono would point to me: "Ok, Lanois, you sing the chorus" (sings the chorus' hook out loud). It's very much a Canadian sound there, a tribute to The Band. We call it the "Simcoe sound".


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Posted by:

kristie

Web: My link

Subject: worst album covers....

Does anyone own one of these albums? The "Ken-by request only," shows up on all the lists.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Joe J: Now that the scare's over, we can move onto more pleasant things. Did you see this little Globe and Mail feature on Ron Hynes (writer of nouveau classics such as "Sonny's Dream" - check YouTube under Ron Hynes - and "Atlantic Blue")?


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks for the run down on Hayes Carll, JG. I think I'll check it out. Anything related to UOCC gets my attention.I must have missed Roz's post but maybe she didn't make the Band connections. That connection helps focus the mind on the music being suggested.


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Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Web: My link

Subject: Spirit? I'm Not Dead Yet!

Landmark, that's the first time I've ever been fired from an unpaid position. It's also the first time anyone's invoked to my spirit, since as far as I know I'm still alive. But never mind. Brien, Bob W., his back is all yours.

On another subject, if no one has already mentioned the online radio station linked above, Radio Free Americana, allow me. It streams great music 24/7, free and without commercials. You don't even have to register to listen. The Band is well represented in their library, and you can make particular requests. I haven't done that, but I'm told they're usually played within 15 minutes or so.

Finally, making up for years of silence in one post, I'd like to second Roz's recommendation a while back: If you aren't already listening to Hayes Carll's Trouble in Mind (available on CD and vinyl), give him a try. He's a terrific singer/songwriter, very much in the tradition of Dylan and The Band. His clever She Left Me for Jesus is a big alt-country hit, but I'm surprised no one here has mentioned Drunken Poet's Dream, an homage to UOCC if ever there was one.

And now I'll unfold my wings and float off ....


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Posted by:

kristie

Anyone in the Gb ever been to South America?

And recently finished Suze Rotolo's book(which I was hesitant to read because I really respected her silence about her and Dylan's relationship)hoping for a new insight into Dylan...when in actuality the book focuses more on her immersion into politics and the arts(she was truthful when stating it is a memoir of the folk/political scene of the sixties and her involvement in it at the time). She seems like a really classy sort of person, just very respectful of the relationship she had with Dylan and of all her friends(like Von Ronk)and their stories.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Kevin J said, "...so those left around here started talking about drummers and that cleared the joint out…………"

As a drummer, I resemble that remark.

Bon Voyage, Landmark!


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Posted by:

Steve

Glad you're passing a torch around the GB and not your end.

Bill, I look at it like a marathon. I've just been pacing myself with the odd, spaced out post every once and again. Now that it looks like we've opened a space with the rest of the pack and the crowd is thinning I'm going to hit my finishing kick anytime now. Hold on to your hat.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Typical of you Bill to try and usurp power in my absence. I don't leave for vacation till Sunday morning. I know that you'll try your power grab on Monday after a pleasant weekend going through the discard bins at the local Dollar Store. Anyway I've decided that Brien shall watch out for my interests while I am gone with Bob W. spelling him. Of course I know that the spirit of Jersey Girl is lurking and as usual, will do another splendid job watching my back as well. Steve you've had your chance to watch my end before. It is time to pass the torch.


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Posted by:

Bill

Steve and Kevin: Looks like there's just three of us left, so I guess we can use just first names. My theory is that it's one of those On The Beach situations: the mushroom cloud's already encompassed everything and everyone outside a little sliver from Toronto to Sherbrooke. Been good knowing you - I guess we all know how it's going to en....................


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Posted by:

Kevin J

I’ve got if figured out……..everyone who has ever posted here somehow managed – all at the same time - to put footprints all over Peter’s lovely sports coat……….he freaked and closed the doors of the GB theatre….but alas….it is not his theatre anymore…..so those left around here started talking about drummers and that cleared the joint out………….there’s a lady with knives in both hands out front with a basket in front of her looking for donations to a world wide religious tolerance group……….just a God D*mn impossible way of life…………….


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve: Who're you accusing ...?


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Posted by:

Steve

The doctor's in and the meter's running. What's on your mind Bill?


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: umm, hello ...

... is this the chatroom?


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Richard Manuel doc update from Water Street Films.

Great update by producers Jason & Jeremy of Water Street Films who have been hard at work on their Richard Manuel doc. They recently met w/ Jon Taplin, Mickey Jones, Richard's daughter Paula, widow Arlie & bro Allan. We've communicated w/ Jason & he is an energetic young man who along w/ his film partner Jeremy, has put a lot of work into this doc & we cannot wait for its release.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

David P., you're a cool rockin' daddy.


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Posted by:

David P.

And Mr. Blaine (with the Beach Boys) and Mr. Palmer (with Little Richard) make Peter's list.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Attack of the Killer B's

I'd award "Rain" best B-side of all time. I realize there's heavy competition.

The Band B: The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down A: Up On Cripple Creek

The Beach Boys: B: Wouldn't It Be Nice A: God Only Knows

The Beatles B: Rain A: Ticket to Ride

Eddie Cochran B: Cut Across Shorty A: Three Steps To Heaven

Bob Dylan B: She Belongs To Me A: Subterranean Homesick Blues

The Four Seasons B: Silence is Golden A: Rag Doll

Little Richard B: Tutti Frutti A: Long Tall Sally

Elvis Presley B: The Girl of My Best Friend A: A Mess of Blues

The Rolling Stones B: Play With Fire A: The Last Time

Them B: Gloria A: Baby Please Don't Go



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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Bill M: Hal Blaine, like Earl Palmer, played on so many countless hits. One of my favorites featuring Mr. Blaine is "Be My Baby" from the Ronettes. Click on link above to hear that thunderous beat.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Ringo believes his best drumming was on Rain.

Dino Danelli on Good Lovin' is a force of nature.


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Posted by:

bob w.

I've always admired the drumming on "Ticket to Ride".


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Drumming part 2 - Late in the Evening

Anotherr one that stands out from Steve Gadd.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Fifty ways to love your liver

Just stay off the sauce boss ...



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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: drumming that stood out on hit songs

What about Steve Gadd on Paul Simon's "50 ways to lose your lover" See Link......and F*ck Off to anyone you tries to spam this


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, agreed on UOCC drumming. The kick off being my favorite of any Band song.

Randy Bachman did a program on bass guitar parts in rock and roll. Stand By Me was one of the songs covered.

He mentioned that the song had been turned down by several heavyweight performers and that King only recorded it because he had 25 minutes of studio time left after recording the A side.

The studio musicians were keen to do another song and King pulled out Stand By Me and cut it really quickly maybe in one or two takes.


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Posted by:

Steve

David, wasn't it George W who used the term" Voodoo Math" during the debates with either Kerry or was it the guy who takes credit for inventing the internet.

Bill and Peter, my mother is a shrinking violet when it comes to " crowd control" when you compare her to the mother of a Mohawk friend of mine that I played junior hockey with.

At a playoff game at the other team's arena my mother and the two Mohawk women she was sitting with were probably the only English speaking people in the crowd of about 5,000.

being English they were instantly identified as being with our team, myself and two Mohawk friends were the only anglos on either team.

My mother relaid this event to me after we were on our way home from the game:

This was in the days of smoking wherever you pleased, even at indoor sporting events. Mrs. White( great Mohawk name)tried to light her cigarette and a teenage boy (app17 or18 years old)blew out her match.

Mrs. White tried again and he again blew out the match.

At that point Mrs. White, who was about 5 foot 10 and about 250 lbs turned around and told the kid in English that he'd be sorry if he did that again. She lit another match, he blew it out, she turned around grabbed his hand with one hand and with her other hand grabbed a finger and bent it backwards til it cracked.

The kid started screaming and heading for the exit. My mother thought they would be attacked by the friends sitting with him but they all just sat there stunned and pretended nothing had happened. Knowing Mrs. White, that was probably a wise course of action on their part.

I pointed out to my mother that the kid probably didn't speak English and might not have understood Mrs. White's threat because she is very soft spoken. My mother said that might have been true but she thought he probably understood now.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: cripple creek / circuses and bread

Big Brown was in the car stereo this morning, but the control was turned to radio and I could hardly be expected to flip away from Ben E King's "Stand By Me" - so I got to hear the next tune too, which happened to be UOCC by our guys. Such drumming: made me wonder if there's a better example of drumming in any other top 10 record. I'm thinking that Hal Blaine's work at the end of "Let The Sunshine In" is the only contender, but others may have others to suggest ...

I see that the only Canuckistani billionaire whose wealth increased last year was the founderr of Cirque du Soleil. Says something about something.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Lars - these mini rallies in a bear market can be tracked historically. If you catch them right you can make a few bucks. I missed this one but caught one a few weeks back for a small profit. You know there is going to be a financial sell off only because the mind set is still so fragile in that sector. Plus, some profits will be pulled to make up for some bad loses out there - only natural to run up a sector then sell it off. I might dip into FAZ at the end of the day. If the rally continues tomorrow, it will surely sell off next week.


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Posted by:

David P.

Steve: It was George H.W. Bush who described Reagan's supply-side/tax cut plans as "voodoo economics" when the two ran against each other for the Republican nomination in 1980. Bush 41, later known for his "read my lips" flip-flop on taxes, had a degree in economics from Yale.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: Stocks and pillories

Brien- I've done well with FAZ. It was almost unfair when all of the financials were bleeding through every orifice. This bear market rally was pretty easy to see coming. However, now that the financials are making money, I'm not only out (as of Mon), but I have to learn about this ETF all over again. I don't have a clue what "low" is now that the banks are in the green again. What applied one month ago is no longer reliable.

The bottom line is the financials & many corporations still have toxic assets. Suspending M2M would only recreate the lack of visibility that caused this whole crisis to begin with. I don't think Obama is getting any more money from the Senate. When that bill gets shot down, then we'll have to learn the market AGAIN, but FAZ will probably benefit from any major blow to financials. I'm in no rush. I'm not long on anything. I think we're so askew that the market may be a losing proposition for the foreseeable future.

On a more pertinent subject, anybody who lives near Cape Cod might want to check out The First Encounter Coffee House (Eastham, near the windmill)on Sat nite (3/14). One of my favorites, Sarah Burrill, is opening for one of my other favorites, John Hammond. $18 at the door, but this will probably be a packed house.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: England's decline

"Canada to India... Australia to Cornwall... Singapore to Hong Kong... From the West to the East... From the rich to the poor... Victoria loved them all... Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, 'toria... Victoria, Victoria, Victoria..."

Cheer up - Ray Davies still lives there doesn't he?

Bill M: "Summer Side of Life" is right at the top of my favorite Lightfoot songs. I have heard the guys in his band express the same feelings.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: is this what make Britain Great?

Peter V: Basil Fawlty wouldn't have left it at that! Probably would have trod on the womon's own coat, or at least berated her in front of her class. Someone I know and love (think of a younger version of our Steve's mother) takes no guff. When a teenage cretin fizzed open his pop can behind her and her teenage neice, she dumped the entire contents of her own coke onto the offender's head. Caused a ruckus - tut-tuts, stares, scurrying ushers - but they can only shoot you once, right? (We'd miss you around here though.)


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, isn't it referred to as a "Dead Cat Bounce" in these trying times? I actually heard some economist, ya one of those guys who knows everything but not til it's already in the past, trying to drum up some sympathy for those hundreds of worthy billionaires who have dropped to millionaire status.

His main point seemed to be that it's better for all us worthless underachievers when there are lots of billionaires because there's more " Trickle Down" for us bottom feeders( my terminology)to live on.

Man, I thought this current disaster that can trace it's roots back to Ronnie Ray Guns, ( Father Trickle Down) would have put an end to that kind of horseshit pseudo logic or as George W might have called it, Voodoo Logic!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you Serenity.

bassmanlee: Tell Tale Signs is my favorite release in the last 12 months. However, months later, I really only listen to disc 1. Unlike Bootleg Vols 1-3 which had many great songs/takes on all 3 discs, TTS greatness/appeal is, in my view, all found on disc 1. I have not heard the infamously expensive disc 3 of TTS as the version I purchased ( could afford ) was 2 cds.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: England's decline

I went to the theatre yesterday. We were in the middle of a school party of 15 or 16 year olds, and when we came back after the interval, the person behind had their feet on the back of my seat. I said "Excuse me" and the offending filthy trainers were removed. Ten minutes later I was pushed forward by the same feet being replaced on my seat back, I thought "Teenagers!" and I hissed "Could you please take your feet off my seat" and watched the rest of the play. I stood up at the end, and finally saw the woman behind me. Not a teenager, but the class's teacher, issuing instructions. And then people say the kids don't know how to behave (grumble, mumble). I had great dusty marks all over my jacket.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

lars - I hope your stop kicked in a while back on FAZ. Watched that drop like a lead balloon the last week. Might be time to get in as this mini rally will surely wane.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Basmanli: The only CD in the BARK section at the mall yesterday was their newest, "Swinging on the Chains of Love" - a best-of with bonus tracks. Definitely worth getting, especially if you don't have all the others. Although it includes the cut that BARK contributed to a Johnny Cash tribute ("Folsom Prison Blues"), it doesn't include their version of "The Summer Side Of Life", which they contributed to a Lightfoot tribute. That one's definitely worth checking out too - Cowboy Junkies, Blue Rodeo, Bruce Cockburn, Harry Manx et al.


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Posted by:

David P.

Rhythm Jimmy: Thanks for the heads-up, I've long been a fan of Buddy & Julie Miller and will have to check out the new album. On a more serious note -- Buddy reportedly suffered a heart attack after a concert in Baltimore on Feb. 20th, while on tour with Emmylou Harris, Shawn Colvin & Patty Griffin. Last word I heard was that he is recuperating after successful triple-bypass surgery at John Hopkins.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Serenity: of course you are missed

But it's always nice to see you


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Posted by:

Serenity

Nice to see I'm missed somewhat.

JOAN: Hi to you too. Thankx for the welcome.

STEVE: Just to let you guys know I'm still around and kicking.

KEVIN: Here's Daves' guests [some]

WED: An Horse CD "Rearrange Beds" and Tom Brokaw.

THURS: Cast of "West Side Story"

Fri: Carsive CD " Mama I'm Swollen" [these are all new to me.

Hope I'm not too late for this info?

Seeya soon xoxoxo


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: bassmanlee

I think Tell Tale Signs is 'all killer' but I'm not exactly unbiased. I even considered buying the 3-disc set but will try to bootleg it.

'Let's Frolic Again' is as good or better than 'Frolic'


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: David

Thanks for the heads up. That kind of stuff really bugs me. The spammers just get more and more resourceful.


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Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: "Written in Chalk"

. . . is the new album by Buddy & Julie Miller, released last week. After just one listening, I think it is as fine as their excellent eponymous 2001 release.

Buddy's talent as a guitarist is well known, and I have liked his singing since his first record, "Your Love and Other Lies" (1995). Over the years he has just gotten better. Steve Earle called him the best singer in country music.

Julie wrote eight songs on the new album, and she and Buddy wrote one together (the boisterous "Gasoline and Matches"). She also sings in fine form on this recording, which I think is her first in several years. These are songs of love, loss, family, grief, and faith.

Surprising to me that Buddy is seldom mentioned in these pages, and I don't remember Julie ever having been mentioned here.

To me their blend of traditional and rock 'n roll forms has an obvious affinity with the music of The Band.

Am I the only fan of Buddy & Julie in these parts?


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: Current Listening and a Question

You're welcome, Kevin. I am resident DJ for my section of the office (seniority has its perks) so I go through a lot of CDs in a week if I'm actually in my office. (We've recently been forbidden to stream audio.) Today was a mixed bag, everything from the techno-funk and world beat of DJ Logic & Jason Miles' "Global Noize" and the Action Figure Party to bluegrass singer Jeff White's "The Broken Road", with stops at the previously mentioned Lauderdale, Crowell, and BARK disks.

One of the disks I have been playing a bit lately is the single disk version of Bob Dylan's Tell Tale Signs (Bootleg Vol. 8). There's some good stuff on there, particularly Misssissippi, Someday Baby, and Everything Is Broken. What I'm wondering is considering I picked this up in a discount bin somewhere, is it worth it to spring for the full two-disk version? Is there any killer stuff on there beyond what's on the single disk or is it expendable filler? Anyone? Anyone?


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Posted by:

Ari S.

Subject: All La Glory

Does Levon play All La Glory alot? I'd love to hear it.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Serenity: Every time I find out that I missed an act I would have wanted to see on David Letterman – I blame you! I miss those heads-up notices…

Jeff Beck: Thanks to everyone for those additional clips – a great way to start the day. Interesting that all these years later and despite the fact that there are some great young players around – no one creates the kind of buzz that Beck and Clapton have for 40 years. Not talking talent or sales…..just that almost indescribable aura that both have and especially Beck (perhaps in part due to his comparably less commercial success)

bassmanlee: I always appreciate when people point out what they are listening to……….thanks…..


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Posted by:

Steve

Hi Serenity, nice to see your GB handle up there every once in awhile.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Serenity

Hi!


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Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Dylan & you guys

LINK: Bob Dylan.

Hi! You guys are wonderful. The posts are good reading. And the links have been great. Haven't been here for awhile, so it was nice reading the posts. I miss you guys.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: BARK

I have to agree with Steve. I liked Let's Frolic, but I really like Let's Frolic Again.


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Posted by:

Steve

BML, if you like Let's Frolic I have to recommend you pick up the followup disc, Let's Frolic Again. You get Tom, Colin and Stephen plus Garth and Richard Bell. If you like Garth playing Accordion there are two songs where Garth shines.

I know, I know, Bill, but I just feel the need to share.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: BARK

Happened across a copy of Blackie and the Rodeo King's 'Let's Frolic' in our local Best Buy the other day, and in light of finding out what it was going to cost to buy a new 18" (as opposed to standard 24) dishwasher, figured what the hell is 14 bucks? On my second listen, and I have to say it's already feeling like an old friend. Not quite what I expected, in a way. I thought it would be more old-time rockin', but it is quite varied and nicely textured. Very Band-like in spots (October Lies, for instance) and highly enjoyable. Many thanks to those of you who have talked up BARK in these pages.

Also picked up the latest (2008) releases by Rodney Crowell and Jim Lauderdale. Both are worthy additions to these fine artist's catalogs. The Lauderdale disk features "The Dream Players", consisting of James Burton, Al Perkins, Garry Tallent, Glen D. Hardin, Ron Tutt, and Steve Sheehan with guest vocalists including Budy Miller, Patty Loveless, and Buddy Miller. Nice to have friends, eh?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

David P - i loved that film. That is also probably the best and most compact version of that song I've ever heard - thanks


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Jeff Beck

Link to Eric Clapton & Jeff Beck dualing on "Further On Up The Road". Mr. Beck's stunning version of "A Day In The Life" first appeared on the 1998 "In My Life" Sir George Martin / Beatles tribute CD.


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Posted by:

biffalo bull

Subject: revisiting

listened to"high on the hog", twice yesterday. it has been a few years since i listened to this gem, partly because i overplayed it initially and was somewhat influenced by negative opinions stating that "hoth" was substandard. like a wine, this one has only gotten better with age. i think it will hold up through time. it is both playfully articulate and subtly demure. for now i am off to cripple creek co., to visit the area that inspired the song that started it all for me. it may sound funny, but i lived in a big pink house myself back in the late sixties and early seventies wooooohowwoooo


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levon Helm's MArch 6th Beacon set list.

Same Thing Battle Is Over Ophelia I Got Loaded w/Joe Louis Walker 747 w/Joe Louis Walker Wang Dang Doodle w/Catherine Russell I Wanna Know Long Black Veil Got Me A Woman Ashes of Love Did You Love Me Deep Elum Blues All La Glory Train Robbery God Don't Never Anna Lee Rag Mama Rag Save the Last Dance For Me w/Phoebe Snow Baby Workout w/Phoebe Snow Across the Great Divide Mardi Gras Day Everybody Loves A Winner Rock and Roll Shoes Remedy w/ Jim Weider It Makes No Difference w/Jim Weider The Shape I'm In Chest Fever The Weight I Shall be Released


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Levon Helm's March 5th Beacon set list.

Same Thing Battle Is Over Ophelia I Got Loaded w/Joe Louis Walker 747 w/Joe Louis Walker Love Played a Game It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Mail Train Long Black Veil Got Me A Woman Ashes Whisperin' Sea Deep Elum Blues Train Robbery God Don't Never Anna Lee Rag Mama Rag Save the Last Dance For Me w/Phoebe Snow Baby Workout w/Phoebe Snow Across the Great Divide Everybody Loves A Winner Rock and Roll Shoes Remedy w/ Jim Weider It Makes No Difference The Shape I'm In Chest Fever The Weight I Shall be Released


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Galapagos Duck

Bill: if you're not a fan of trad/dixieland/ ragtime then you wouldn' t like Galapagos Duck. My one experience of them was at the Basement, and I thought that they were pretty good (but for me to like trad/dixie, the band has to be HOT). What I didn't like was the ignoramuses who thought they wre in Paris, and yakked over the top, almost drowning out the band ...

(This was several years after you, so it wasn't you...): Actually, when i think of it, my worst concert experiences tend to be an ignorant audience - My Friend the Chocolate Cake (a brilliant band who use cellos, pianos and violins instead fo guitars and bass) had a drunk crowd - even David Bridie (the lead singer/songwriter/piano player) got upset... /n


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Posted by:

Peter V

T Bone Burnett's production of the Across the Universe soundtrack is something I've mentioned before. Note that Jeff Beck plays "A Day In The Life Of". Watched the film for the 5th or 6th time this week.Other guest appearances are Joe Cocker and Bono.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Beacon IMND

Would anyone know if the final couple minutes of that song has shown up anywhere? I'd like to hear/see Weege's solo....


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

And a Jeff Beck connection to the boys.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Jimmy Fallon/Roots

An interesting article on Jimmy Fallon's backup band Roots.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: montreal
Web: My link

And since we are on a Jeff Beck thread, I thought that I'd add one of my favourite Beck moments.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: moondawg

Adam, I agree that Moondog is beautifully recorded, on the instrumental side, but the vocals are a little far back in the mix, for me.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Kevin J, thank you for that link. Jeff Beck is amazing.


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Posted by:

tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

levon at the beacon with the allmans article


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Todays song of the day is "who do you love" by the Hawk


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Posted by:

Anna

Location: Rome
Web: My link

Subject: Sexual Addiction

You are wonderfull! A. http://hotornot.wsu3.com/sa/


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Rag Mama Rag from the Beacon, March 6th.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: It Makes No Difference, March 6th @ The Beacon.

Youtube clip from Thursday's show w/ Vivino on lead.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Jeff Beck & Eric Clapton together Live!

Above link is a good clip of two greats having some fun. Band link: similar to showdown at TLW......well... a link is a link!


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Little Jerry Williams

Kevin: Can't think of a Band link, but it was another Williams, Andre "Mr. Rhythm", who wrote the original "Bacon Fat", which Garth & Robbie borrowed from for their composition of the same name.


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Posted by:

Bill M

dlew: I didn't like Galapaduck then, but might now. If I had to guess, I'd say they played trad/dixieland; if so, likely not, especially in a windowless club. Why I went was the expat Canuck friend I was staying had her eye on one of the musicians. That same friend was a friend of Levon's (and Rick's) and introduced me to the former at the Le Coq D'Or on Yonge Street circa '79.

Joe J: Jerry Williams did tons and tons of records, a good number of them under the name Swamp Dawg - or was it Dogg? The friend (a different one) who introduced me to Swamp D's music in the early '80s had previously been road manager /soundman for Crowbar and for Rick James's Great White Cane band. Both have links to our guys, if that's good enough.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Airport reading

Just flipped through the latest edition of Rolling Stone at the airport and note that a new studio release from Bob Dylan is imminent. The article provides a mini review of 10-12 new songs. Also a short profile of L.Cohen and Billy Joel’s ranking of the top 5 bands in Rock n Roll history.....his take - Beatles, Stones, Zep, Who and AC/DC!!

Also a review of the Jeff Beck/Eric Clapton co-headline gigs in Europe and news that they are planning some shows together with an end-of-night 7 song collaboration at MSG and perhaps Hollywood Bowl


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Posted by:

thomas comis

Location: upstate ny

Subject: the band


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: bill m The very same:

And it's still running. /n I take it you didn't like G. Duck?


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Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Union, ME

Subject: JJ


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Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Union, ME

Subject: JJ

Johnnie Johnson made the Hail Hail Rock n Roll band that Keith Richards put together to back up Chuck Berry for his 60th bash in 86. You had Steve Jordan on drums, Joey Spampinato on bass (NRBQ), Keith and Robert Cray on guitar. Of course it was way to good a group for Chuck, but they sound great on the disc.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Boz Scaggs

Don't remember if it was Landmark or Bumbles who liked Boz Scaggs' 'Some Change' but I can't get enough of it since I rescued it from the depths of my collection. Also rescued Gladys Knights' 'Imagination' which was too popular to be cool in its' day.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Little Jerry Williams

Got a great oldies radio show round here and heard an old favourite for the first time in years: "Lover Man" by Little Jerry Williams. Jeez, they don't make music like that anymore.

Come on David or Bill. Find a link to the Band. Would I have loved to hear Richard on this one.


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Posted by:

Tom

Web: My link

Subject: Basement remastered

Yet another Remaster/Reissue..........what about the rest of them tapes ? Maybe this has already been posted. I don't stop in much.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Just came in the mail. Lanois on Leno tonight

Cut & Paste from an email. I have no idea who this guy is:

ROCCO DELUCA AND THE BURDEN :: MERCY : MARCH 10th RELEASE After spending 2008 in the recording studio, Rocco DeLuca and the Burden are finally gearing up to release MERCY, which will hit stores and online outlets this Tuesday, March 10th. MERCY was produced by Daniel Lanois and includes such highlights as: the title track – a slow burning ballad that highlights Rocco’s delicate and flawless falsetto and is backed by UK based band Keane, “I Trust You To Kill Me” -- a driving Dobro and piano centered plea and the hard rocking “Save Yourself,” which was added to VH1 and Fuse and was featured on the DVD for Fox’s feature length ‘24 – Redemption.” You can watch the video for “Save Yourself” here .

Tuesday, March 10th also marks the kick off of Rocco’s Nationwide “Mercy” tour at The Troubadour in Los Angeles, CA! For more information on the “Mercy” tour and for a full list of tour dates click here.

Rocco DeLuca & The Burden is appearing on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno TONIGHT, Monday, March 9th! The band will be performing the single “Save Yourself!” from MERCY, with special guest Daniel Lanois! The Tonight Show airs on NBC at 11:35/10:35C, please check local listings for more information.

On Wednesday, March 11th, Rocco DeLuca & The Burden will also be performing “Open Pages” on the Bonnie Hunt show with Daniel Lanois! Click here to see when The Bonnie Hunt show airs in your area..

THE CRITICS ARE ALREADY PRAISING ‘MERCY’. HERE’S WHAT WE’RE READING:

“I find the voice of Rocco DeLuca simply compelling.” – Bob Boilen, NPR ‘All Songs Considered’

“Mercy’ reshapes the second coming of a songsmith completely true to his craft, using his voice equally as both an instrument and a vehicle for sending out a message” – Filter

“Rocco DeLuca doesn’t fit comfortably into any specific style, but his music has a mesmerizing effect, borne from an atmospheric motif that percolates and simmers with soulful reflection.” – Performing Songwriter


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Moondog Matinee

I think Moondog is beautifully recorded... perhaps their best sounding album in a proper studio. Much better than the Playhouse for Stage Fright, and warmer than Cahoots. It's a shame they left for California after finding the perfect sound on Moondog at Bearsville.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

5 or 6 years ago, but not 4.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the Basement

dlew: You mean the Basement jazz club in downtown Sydney? I was dragged there once in 82, but unfortunately the fare was Galapagos Duck rather than Johnnie Johnson.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Johnnie Johnson

Saw him here (Sydney, for those who came in late) at the basement, maybe 4 years ago? Terrifically brilliant - the man could make a piano sing. I do recommend his later (ish) albums. /n All this talk of BFB remeinds me that I must email quite a lot of you out there: my slackness (forced by busyness)doesn not mean I've forgotten...


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: PA

Subject: African Soul Rebels

Peter v, Thanks for your review of the African bands. There used to be plenty of opportunities to hear African music live in the Philadelphia area in the late 80's through '90s. I'm not surprised that Oliver Mtukudzi got top billing as he is one of Zimbabwe's most popular and respected musicians. I saw Baaba Maal play at an outdoor festival in the early 90's. I don't remember the date, but I had my toddler son with me (he's 19 now). The band was about 20 piece, and played with grace and precision. It was at a festival called Jambalaya Jam, featuring mostly Louisiana cajun, zydeco and blues musicians. As his set opened, various talking drum players came up on stage, one by one, building up a light, irresistible call to come out and dance. African audience members seemed to materialize out of nowhere, spilling in from all directions on the festival grounds. It was a truly beautiful thing. The rest of the audience was mostly unfamiliar with this type of music, and the looks on their faces ranged from whimsical, to pleasantly surprised, to astonished to be exposed to this beautiful jewel. Alas, after 2001, we have not had the honor seeing of too many large African bands. I suspect travel restrictions tightened up. One time I saw King Sunny Ade in New York City with 22 musicians on stage, and an even larger support staff of technicians, stagehands and soundmen. Now it's rare to see even the most popular African musicians on the east coast, and it's years and years between bookings. We didn't know how good we had it in '98 & '99 for this kind of stuff. Just last week I had been wondering if Baaba Maal still toured in the U.S., so your review was (guardedly) encouraging.


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Posted by:

MiserNeil

Location: Herefordshire, UK
Web: My link

Subject: Our Favourites.....

Hey Guys, Just thought you might like to see this, we recorded it as a tribute to The Band during the recording of our debut album sessions.

Click the "WEB: MY LINK" to view!

Please let us know what you think!


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Posted by:

Steve

JQ, top points for "EH" usage that no Canucklehead worth his weight in snow could find fault with.

Jean, I self terminated a couple of years back at BFB. Lars is right, it's basically of interest to a small group of friends, most of whom reside in the area.

I don't think I ever posted there, though I might have and just don't remember.

I thought the least I could do in this age, with its need for heightened security,was to let the sergeant at arms know that if I could find the rabbit hole anybody could.

The site was moved. Mission Accomplished.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Upcoming Band Reissues

In addition to the upcoming Audio Fidelity gold CD reissue of The Brown Album, another audiophile label, Mobile Fidelity, will be releasing a SACD version of "Music From Big Pink".


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Johnnie Johnson

I'm sorry I never got to see Johnnie Johnson in concert, but I bought all his CDs while he was alive to get royalties. He certainly was Rock'n'Roll Roylaty to me, and a "co-architect" indeed...


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

ONE of the co-architects of the genre. No Johnnie, no Chuck. That is how it was and is. Chuck painted houses, Johnnie worked in steel mills. Chuck would show up at Johnnie's house around dinner time, with his poems, lyrics. They'd play, work em out, work on em after shows , in the clubs the played, as The Sir John Trio, or as The Johnnie Johnson trio.

Could Chuck still make those moves Charlie? I don't know it's fair to expect him to. But I'll say this, he keeps himself trim and fit. Looks real stiff, but i got a feeling he can move fast if need be.

I once saw a beat up hard lived ailing and old 64 year old guitar player singer bug thinking he had lost his show itinerary. He was performing in & hosting a mega star show. This was a friend of mine,. I spotted it on the floor, on the other side of a set of scaffolding. I pointed it out, said I'll get it. Before i could blink, this old man was over and in between and over a reasonably high section of scaffolding. And back again. Looked at me, said I can still move when I need to.

Ran a helluva show, and at dinner afterward was high as a kite on the thrill of it all. a bunch of Arkansas boys on the bill with him, Billy Lee riley, Sleepy La Beef, and James cotton. IF i;m not mistaken, Cotton is also from Rakansas . Riley, La Beef, are for sure


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Built for Comfort, Not for Speed...

JQ: I have heard Dylan's first book, "Tarantula," described as "speed freak prose" but I'm not sure if that was just a description of the fast-paced, endless allusions or of actual drug use.

I just watched a YouTube video of a notorious non-druggie rocker, though one openly sex addicted, a guy who was never the best musician, songwriter or singer in the history of rock'n'roll, just the architect of the genre. The video of him performing "Promised Land" on a TV show from 1958 demonstrates he was also (arguably) the coolest character in the history of rock'n'roll. When his microphone slides about two feet down the mike stand in the middle of the song, Chuck simply slides down low to finish the line, then strides away for a solo while a sound guy grabs the mike. It's amazing to watch. What a pro, and I imagine he could do the same thing today at age 82.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Jeff Buckley - Hallelujah (Lord of War 2005)


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: speedwriting

I'm not trying for a titillating or gossip-bound post but I'm wondering about the role of speed & speed-like drugs in writing & songwriting, primarily in the 50s & 60s.

My take is that alcohol & amphetamines were the drugs of choice for rockers in the 50's. But doesn't that seem to have been more about having fun than creative productivity? And I don't think it's wrong to say that that kind of music, early rock n' roll & rockabilly (especially loud & live) can be more exciting for everybody with a buzz added. I think Levon has referred to it in that context. At the same time wasn't speed also seen to be useful for creative writing then too? Jack Keroac supposedly wrote his magnum opus in a few days of non-stop writing. And there's Bob Dylan's amazing productivity; wasn't it speed that was the prime suspect for his '66/67 troubles? Doesn't that, or something, seem apparent in the Pennebaker film? One question, if I'm even right, is whether any listener or reader can tell the difference in the finished product?

I've always thought there was something about Caddyshack & The Blues Brothers that felt like it was cocaine affected. Aaron Sorkin, the creator & primary writer for The West Wing, is said to have done his best work while coked, and his program really was excellent, eh? But then Joe Boyd said that cocaine was the only drug that had a terribly negative effect on musicians. There was someone quoted in Shaky saying how meth made him sing much better.

I don't know, in hindsight, whether speed use back then is seen now to have been very destructive to the creative process, perhaps in spite of the more long-term problems that came along.

I'm not digging for dirt at all and hopefully I'm not asking about what everybody else already knows, I'm just wondering about that drug's impact on the writing of the era.


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Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston
Web: My link

Subject: The Band

Pretty cool page where you can look up artists, then click on the week next to a song and see the actual music surveys radio stations used to print (the kind you would grab at record stores back in the day) I used to grab these every week back home.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Data Rot

A video about keeping up with technology. Are your photos, movies and recordings safe?


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Van Morrison Interview on CBS SUNDAY MORNING

The Van Morrison piece on CBS SUNDAY MORNING was the longest interview I'd ever seen with the man--though he didn't really say much. One thing I learned was that he'd stopped touring for quite a while before "The Last Waltz" and that sent him back on the road. Ironic, huh?

I also didn't know Van Morrison suffers from stagefright like Carly Simon, John Lennon and Robbie Robertson. He says keeping his eyes closed onstage always helps him, though, and that's part of the reason he always related to Ray Charles.


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Posted by:

Lil

d_lil at hotmail dot com


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: African Soul Rebels

If they're your way, try and catch them. There are three bands, and the first is frankly awful (three Americans and two Africans with a dreadful bass player), but I suspect that their horrendous stage sound … very, very low vocals with far too much echo, dull farts from bass, massively over-amplified drums, was the run of the mill sabotage sound mix that support bands so often get so as to make the main acts sound better.

The second is Baaba Maal, who I'd seen before and is superb. He was playing at way less than half the volume of the support act with twenty times the impact.

The third was a revelation (also playing quietly), Oliver Mtukudzi from Zimbabwe. I'd gone along for Baaba Maal, and wondered why this guy I'd never heard of had higher billing. As soon as his impeccable band came on, the Africans in the audience moved forward. He was quite simply one of the best performers I've seen … a genuine superstar, and by the greetings of those who already knew him, well-known as such in Africa, If you get the chance, do not miss him!


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: BFB

MIKE- Lil has a site that we jokingly call "Mayberry, RFD" because we talk more about family matters and maple trees than we do about music. I would guess 4 posts a day is average, probably not even that much.

It's up to Lil which friends she invites in, but to be candid--and this is just my opinion-- I think you've kinda put her in a hard place. One thing that might really help is if you happen to have a chain saw. We only need you to make four cuts and we can take it from there (remember "Animal House"?).


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: JERRY Vivino!

I need to read more carefully...


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

That was Chicago Blues for felix's band. US Blues was a short lived but cool place undrground, on Broadway, maybe at Bond. Used to go there to see a band that Edgar Winter and Leon Russell had. Quite a few times in a short period.


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Posted by:

Mike

There's a "Saints & Sinners" Irish bar in Rutland, VT. Great line from a The Band tune:). Hey Lil: Carol tried to email you a number of mths ago about my interest in the "exclusive" BFB w/ no response from you. What's up?


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Posted by:

Lil

Joe J: BFB was down a few hours today for maintenance. It's up again now.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Jimmy's first instrument was trumpet. I've seen him play french horn, hammond B3, and piano. French horn was just a few notes, during the 25th anniversary of the Child Is Father To The Man shows at The Bottom Line. Kooper pretty much had the entire BS& T back together, the horn section may have been intact, or had one nonoriginal member. Anton Fig played drums in place of Colomby ( i think that was the original drummer). I think I went all three nights of that run, that's how good it was.

On hammond, Vivino has a very identifiable sound. I think I recall him playing a lot of organ on Ola Dixon;s Severn release, which he co produiced with Brian Bisesi.

Back a good ways, Felix Cabrera's band had Arthur Neilson on guitar, Jimmy on Hammond. I remember one show at US Blues, maybe in 2001, Felix had both of them, and JD Parrin, from the Rcok Of Ages horn section, in the band.


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Posted by:

Jean

Steve, has it been that long already? Time flies...


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Charlie Y, On "It Makes No Difference", Jimmy W played guitar, and Jimmy V took the vocals. And last night it was Jimmy's brother Jerry Vivino on the additional saxophone. When I told some young guys I know (20-22 year olds), about the Beacon show, the appearance of Jerry Vivino was one of the things that impressed them the most. I don't remember Jimmy playing sax before (although anything's possible) but he did play keyboards at a Ramble or two.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Ros

Nice to see you back. I was concerned.


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Posted by:

roz

any day now...


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Posted by:

Steve

Ya, Joe, for about 2 years.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: BFB

Anyone else having trouble linking to the BFB site?


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks for the link Jeff. Interesting read.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Adam: I have both those shows you mention, one on CD and the other on cassette (I haven't listened to that one in a while) and I agree with your comments. I need to dig out both and give another listen. They are interesting to say the least.

Speaking of Allen Ginsberg: I just read actor James Franco has signed on to play the poet in a movie tentatively titled "Howl." I think Dylan's title for the PLANET WAVES album was inspired by the title of Mr. Ginsberg's book of poems called PLANET NEWS.

Jimmy Vivino plays sax, too? Who knew? He's amazing.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Very Worthwhile Reading

Speaking of Joe Louis Walker, he moved to NY a while back. Played Bearsville Theater last year. The guy has a lot of history. This is a pretty recent and engaging interview which contains very interesting remarks towards the end.

Skinhead? Maybe. The dope fiend? Well, maybe he meant -been just a dope fiend.


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Posted by:

Ilkka (again and again)

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Steve's recent post

Steve, your post did remind me of being down in China town. I ordered some Lin Chow Wong. I turned around and my Chow Wong was gone. Oh-no-no!


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic countries

Subject: A. Ginsberg by Charlie Y

Great thing, Charlie! Ginsberg's "Howl" was sent in Finnish public service radio already in the mid sixties ("Huuto" in Finnish.) I didn't understand anything. I build plastic model airplanes like Peter V's Spitfires by then :-)))) I still enjoy the photo of ROBBIE ROBERTSON - the man behind the great Band songs - together with Mr. Ginsberg in San Francisco.


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Posted by:

Bashful Bill

Location: Minoa, NY

Subject: Beacon

Cool- did Jim play the whole show, or just sit in on IMND? & who sang it -one of the women, I'd predict?


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Understandig EMPTY NOW; lesson two

This is a true story. - I was flying on Air Algier. The Captain said: "Good evening, my name is Leon Holtzstocker, to the right of me sits the First Officer (and my son) Christian Carpenter. Please play attention to the words of the Purser."

The Purser: "My name is Yussuf Islam and I am your purser on this flight. During this flight you can use the Internet connction. If you'll read the post of EMPTY NOW the oxygen masks will fall down. Put them on and breathe normally." I turned myself to the skinny old man next to me and said: "Oh Lord, is this really the end...?" He straightened his white and silver colored cowboy hat and touched his one and a half millimeter vacuum cleaner salesman mustache and said: "... to be stuck inside of Mobile with this Memphis blues again :-)))))"

I PANICED!!!


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Posted by:

Steve

We watched The Paul Simon\Gershwin award concert last night from the US Library Of Congress.

I think the choice to have Stevie Wonder sing the verse " If I was the president" was perfect.

Marge and I both laughed when Stevie was singing his verse because for the first time, maybe because of the way Stevie sang it, it sounded so funny.

And If I was the president, the minute the congress call my name, I'd say, who do, who do you think you're fooling

I've got the presidential seal, I'm up on the presidential podium, My mama loves me, she loves me.

Having a black man singing about being the president was interesting considering it was 2007 but the way Stevie was singing the words, the attitude he was projecting, it sounded like George W demanding respect because he WAS THE PRESIDENT." Look, I've got all the toys of the office, got the seal, I'm at the podium, I'm really the president! It was the first time I've ever heard the lyrics that way. It was great.

It was kinda pointing to the future with the black president, but taking a shot at the guy who was in office at the time. At least we both saw it that way.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Oh, yeah... Muddy was as missing as Erik, and Levon sang and played his ass off


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: Philadelphia suburbs

Subject: Friday night at The Beacon

What a lineup! Jim Weider sounding like he never left. He nailed "It Makes No Difference" with Jimmy Vivino singing. Jerry Vivino on sax along with Jay Collins. Erik Lawrence was missing, out on tour, possibly in Europe(?). Steve Bernstein played plunger-headed trumpet. Clark Gayton hopped back and forth from trombone to tuba, never playing Howard Johnson's riffs, but making the parts his own. When Levon went over to mandolin, Amy played drums, then Tony Leone. Other percussion was Justin, the soundman par excellence on "5 gallon water bottle filled with gravel", and Amy played the big bass drum. Catherine Russell belted out a few. Phoebe Snow sang "Save the Last Dance for Me", another rockin' oldie, and then took Rick's "Crazy Chester" verse on "The Weight". Brian Mitchell on keyboards and accordion, and occasional piano, but Donald Fagen covered a lot of the piano parts, switching over to melodica a.k.a. "hooter". Teresa sang beautifully, sometimes in the lead spot, other times sharing duties with Catherine & Amy. And Larry played Garth's part on "Chest Fever", provoking knowing grins from the faithful, and astounded looks from others who haven't seen him pull off this feat before. Joe Louis Walker was the wild card surprise, whether in the spotlight, or slipping into the mix like funky grease from another planet. A splendid time was had by all.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Fighting in the captain's tower …while calypso singers laugh at them

Agree about Ginsberg being an influence, Charlie, but Michael Gray's "Song & Dance Man" traces quite a few Eliot & Pound references (and, I reckon, still misses one, All Along the Watchtower and Ezra Pound's Lament of the Frontier Guard). I would have thought in the NYC crowd he was hanging around with in 1961 there would have been many meeting points with Pound & Eliot's work. Judging from his reported penchant for stealing LPs, I bet he nicked a few books too!


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Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Summer 1973 Roosevelt shows

I've been listening to the '73 New Jersey soundboards, and I'm not sure what I think of them. Sometimes they sound good... maybe loose and ragged, but interesting shows from the group. Other times, like right now, I think they suck. The August 1 show, often described as "incredible" etc., doesn't strike me as that great. Rick's voice is VERY ragged, and not in a good way. He fretless bass playing is so out of tune at times that I wonder whether or not he did a bit of partying with the Dead before the show. Richard, who does sound drunk on the 7/31 show (listen to Great Divide as he forgets the words, repeats words, etc., and adds in "I wish I could hear this song!" ), sounds good the next night, but his piano is hardly audible. To fans of these recordings... tell me what you think.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Profound Poets

The amazing thing about Ginsberg is that when I was in college and went to see him read with William Burroughs at an art gallery in Washington, DC, a lot of his rantings about the CIA and so on seemed so radical and crazy, but it turns out he was right. Most of his angry ramblings about greedy bankers and the military-industrial complex seemed extreme, but he was right. I could go on, but you get the idea. He certainly influenced Dylan and, in turn, Robbie Robertson.

Ginsberg's likely the reason Dylan mentioned Ezra Pound and T.S. Eliot in a song lyric. Outside of Tom Waits, Lucinda Williams and maybe Joni Mitchell, I can't imagine many songwriters these days even knowing those names.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Charlie Y

You met Allen Ginsburg???!!!! wow! I really love "supermarket in California."

"Where are we going Walt Whitman? the supermarket closes in an hour. Which way does your beard point tonight?"

I kind of got interested in the beats(and those associated with the beats as Gary Snyder is not technically considered a beat...but he said he doesn't mind being grouped with em)for strange reasons. There is this peak on a mountain right by the backcountry teahouse I work at in the rockies that I like to spend time on when I can, and it has an old fire lookout on it. Anyways, I got interested in the lives of the people who took the jobs like this, and in the lifestyle..and that led to somebody telling me Keroac used to be a fire lookout...and so I started reading him...and eventually that lead me to Gary Synder. i will check out the other people you mentioned.

Twitter? What the hell is that?


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Posted by:

Joe Rauer

Location: New jersey
Web: My link

Just found the site,have been a fan since I first saw them in Sommers Point, NJ in the 60s. I have Stage Fright on as I write . The Band have traveled my life with me and I thank them for the comfort they have given me over my life time. RIP Rick and Richard. I hope to get to Woodstock,NY this summer to check Levon's theater out.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Westcoaster: I haven't checked the PNW site for a couple of years, but now will. It's Les Vogt - or sometimes Vote when he was doing his own records in the early '60s. Around then he had his own agency and label, both named Jaguar, which issued the first records by both the Chessmen (with Terry Jacks) and the Classics (who morphed into the Collectors then Chilliwack). If you see Les onstage, call out for "The Blamers" and see how he looks at you. As for the Brahman guys, I think I've seen just two of them onstage - Robbie King backing Wes Mackey at a matinee at that hotel at Denman and Davie about 10 years ago and Duris Maxwell with the Wade Brothers and a couple times with Powder Blues circa '80. Eddie Patterson's still playing, I understand, and bassist Paul Blaney was backing Stephen Fearing a few years ago. The guy who wrote "Build A Tower", David Lanz, moved back to the Seattle area and seems to be quite a successful Windham Hill / new-age pianist.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Brahman

Bill; I remember the band, and I don't know if you've looked on "Pacific Northwest Bands", they are there.

I knew only the key board player, Robbie King. Met him at a Jam session a couple of times back in the seventies. Oddly enough I heard that song on our local FM station a couple days ago. There are a couple of DJ's at the station who seem to love to dig up a lot of oldie local stuff and play here. They also play "The Band" quite a lot, AND not just the international hits, or "best of" hits, but a lot of the Band music.

I may see some of the old timers that you recall, like Les Volk, (I'm not sure if I spell that right). Many times a lot of them show up at the Ray McCauley memorial show we do. Ray really was heads above any one else out here back in those early seventies, (as far as country music went) with his accomplishments.

In some ways, I don't think Eddy Molyski ever got over that. He wrote all those songs that Ray had some pretty good hits, and awards with, Eddy had Juno nominations for a couple. They had just done up a 5 year deal with RCA, when Ray had an annurismn and died of brain hemmorage.

I always try and go and do those songs of Eddy's with him and our bunch every year to support Eddy, and keep those songs alive.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Westcoaster: Have you ever heard Susan P's version of "Build A Tower"? It's great, though perhaps not as great as the original by Brahman from '72. Did you know those guys in Vancouver back in the day?


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Joe J

Joe, some days stay forever, this could be one of those. Anyway well done.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Oxymorons

Oxymorons: The USA, more than any other country I would guess, spawns the idiots, then employs them for life. They sit at a desk, on prime television and are paid millions of dollars, (while many starve, or can't pay there mortgages) to make a mockery of their elected politicians, and most notably their president. Do you think Barak Obama will be imune because of his race? I really doubt it.

It used to be newspaper cartoons, and television mostly. Now the internet is soaked with this crap. But the likes of Jay Leno, who never has, and will never have the cariszma of Johnny Carson, is a buffoon. How he has maintained his position as long as he has is beyond me. It does show how acceptable this stuff is in the USA. You elect a president so you can mock him. Interesting!

Lars; All you can do is pray for 'em and love 'em. When they ask for a bit of advise you try and guide them the best way you can, choosing words that make it seem more sensible or attactive to them some how. Then you hope for the best.

Speaking of gardening, that big old rhododenron that we talked about is blooming right up again right now. One of the things I'll miss in Port Alice. You right about ol' Susan. She likes her new home and Powell River so much, she didn't want to leave the other day. We'll be headed back with another load tomorrow morning.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The budding maples of NY

Subject: Africa

EMPTY NOW- I want to thank you for taking the time to help me learn more about Northern Africa. The 22 year old girl (young woman) is, of course, my daughter. She never takes the easy way out and she's very headstrong. What she REALLY wanted was to go to the Mid-East and work on a diplomatic staff. She just quit her job as press secretary for a New York state senator. But living in a hut in Africa will satisfy her, too.

I don't want to even try to control her-- she has her own values which will lead her to her own fate. All I'm trying to do is perhaps "nudge" her over to a safer path.

I think Spring has finally come to the Hudson Valley. I have a lot of cleaning up to do in the yard and gardens. It will be good to dig around in the rich garden soil. A lot of hard work awaits me, I'm looking forward to it.


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Posted by:

bm

Subject: twitr

cy: true but somedays gb r moronic 2.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Twittering Twits

Remember a few weeks ago when Twitter was the hippest thing on the web? I'd venture to guess the publicity about Newt Gingrich and fellow members of the Repugnant Party rudely using Twitter to "tweet" during president Obama's recent address to the joint session of congress suddenly makes Twitter several notches less cool. Perhaps even moronic.

Kristie: I read Gary Snyder, Nikki Giovanni, Sonia Sanchez, Allen Ginsberg (Band connection) and lots of other great poets back in college. I even got to meet the remarkable Mr. Ginsberg a couple of times and met the amazing Ms. Giovanni recently. Anyway, it's nice to know some members of the Twitter generation have an attention span long enough to read something more substantial than "LOL BRB."


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Toronto

I heard "Hallelujah" from Leonard Cohen's live in London (UK?) CD this morning on the radio. Two things struck me. One was the cheer when Cohen acknowledged that he'd come all the way to London. Londoners (if the UK ones) are so insecure that they cheer when recognised? Yeesh, it's bad enough that we still do it here. Second, the longish organ break is right out of Trooper's "Lovely Lady", a hit from the late '70s. (This may be another of those Canuckistani-only references; they were pretty much top of the heap across Canada at the time, but zilch anywhere else.) Still going too, amazingly enough. For the record, Trooper's organist and writer of the song was Frank Ludwig, who later turned up in a couple of those brief corporate-rock Randy Bachman projects post BTO. Union was one, and I believe there was another.


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Posted by:

joe j

Mother and son doing just fine.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Lars - Re: Mali v/s Benin

Thanks for the trust, after the financial expertise, here’s the geo-strategic expertise
When i think security in Mali, the first idea i have is the AZAWED problem [please google this item], one of those never ending revolts, with periodical severe peaks of intensity. It’s specially confined in the northern provinces, Mali is a wide country
However due to socio-economical factors, from the echoes i have, even Bamako isn’t a secure place [with regards to European standards]
Long before the global financial crisis was announced, there are crowds of clandestine immigrants who cross Mali-to-Algeria border everyday, a big part of them come from farther indeed, Nigeria, Benin,…, they go through Sahara on foot, with the alternative to continue towards Europe through the sea, or to settle in awful conditions, or to be redirected home
From the American point of view, there are also crowds of American citizens who live thrive and survive in the region
Regardless the Oil industry, you should know that officially the US Army is strongly implanted in Mali, [what’s the next doom on our heads ?] – There are also crowds of US evangelists who roam these countries. I once asked for advice dlew919 and Steve how to deal with them, my anxiety isn’t because they are evangelists, but because they are Americans, sorry Lars, as long as you are some of the rare people to whom I unveil the bottom of my thoughts
I heard very little about Benin [ex-Dahomey?] all what I confirm is that it’s frankly poorer than Mali, that which at the spiritual level is a sufficient reason to choose Benin
My answer is Benin [without any form of equivoque], but here it would mean to frustrate your daughter of the legitimate quest for danger and reasons for, which is part of her youth and of her noble mission [wow!, çà c’est envoyé]
Where should the offspring live ? this is the right question, I sincerely believe that many The Band fans here are much more qualified than me for parental matters [I think specially Mr Peter V, Levon Helm, Ed Vox, and Lil who are surely reading this GB: hi Ed & hi Lil]


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: ?

Where is Roz? I wanted to ask her about Bukowski.....

And has anyone here read any Gary Synder? I recently read "Riprap and other cold mountain poems" and it was just fantastic. Anyone who has spent any time in the backcountry would appreciate this book.


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Posted by:

infs

A much needed website for The Band lovers who can take an insight into the songs, rare pictures of The Band, detailed history of The Band.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Water??

Hell Joe! I delivered two of 'em. My second wife, well her and I grew up together. Her dad, and mine were buddies. Well anyway, right here in Port Alice, (you could throw a rock to that little hospital from my house here. 1973 when my oldest son was born. August 23 so a beautiful evening. I got here after work about 6:30. Robyn she wouldn't get at it so the doctor went home to have his supper, and said call me when she's getting there.

Well about 8:00 her water broke. I'm yelling at the nurse call the doctor. She's on the phone, so I get Robyn on the Gurnie. Robyn is a big girl, so every time she has a contaction, she's ripping my gawd damn sweater off. I get her in the delivery room, and I'm putting her on the delivery table when she has a real good one, and has my sweater pulled right up over my head strangling me. Darryl, (The doctor comes in, laughing) he thought this was good fun. She's yelling like hell. He gave me this canister, with a face mask, (rubber) attached. Full of ether. He says when she starts up again stick this on her face. (Most fun I ever had) it shut her up anyway.

Just get in there and get right at it Joe you'll have fun.

No........no drinking Jeff, I'm thinking you sure won't get along with Mel Brooks, or Don Rickles or any my other buddies. But then I forgot, you're a music authority.

But talkin' abouit drinkin'! Y'should all watch this video of ol' Steve, (I hope it works). It's an account of Steve's DUI taser arrest.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: Easy Chair

Subject: When the Water Breaks

My missus gave a series of pre-natal classes this winter. That directly led to a young lady showing up at my home/office on this extremely busy day to inform me "Mr. J., My water broke."

Nothing in my first fifty years had prepared me for this moment.

To my great credit, I didn't completely panic. The young lady is currently in the care of health professionals. No, no baby yet.

I'm having a tall whisk(e)y and am contemplating having a second. Lordy, lordy, lordy.



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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Yes Calvin, essentially we've always been prety much in agreement on the subject.. On an a wattage level, Hillman don' generate the same way as a Richie or Rick. And Gene's energy was different yet again. Three voices, I need Levon and Richard in there with those three, and there are blues singers I can't leave out too.

I'm thinking you got some more voices you wouldn't want to give up, but faced with the prospect of only choosing three, I'm in trouble.

Westo. You really ain't hitting on too many cylinders at all tonight. I don't know if you need to drink more, or drink less, but you just keep popping that clutch.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Lars, the feeling you have in your gut about that issue is likely accurate.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Lars

I've sent an e-mail to a young man I know. He was in the Peace Corp in Kenya. He is back here now, but he is still connected there. He has established an educational charity for Kenya. I'll get back to you with his answer.

Its not easy being a parent is it?


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Junk Yard Jeff

Such a sensitive little feller! You have spent enough time here insulting people as it pleases you. Then you decide you are going to be serious and contrite, so every one should fall in line. If all I had to worry about was the crap that you scribble on this page I wouldn't have a worry.

Give your head a shake!


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Posted by:

Calvin

No argument Jeff, over the last five years I've seen both Hillman and McGuinn twice. Chris comes off much better in a small venue, much better. Unfortunately for Chris though the best I've ever seen him and Herb they were followed on the double bill by Richie. Kind of made me forget them.

But you and I have had this conversation many times over the years, for me if I had only Rick, Richie and Gene to listen to I'd probably be a happy man.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Luke, first amongst equals, yes & no. I'm as big a fan of Gene Clark as anyone, but I'd have to put Hillman alongside him. I can't honestly say that there is one song of Hillman's that is as powerful as one song of Clark's, but impact over the same length of time, I can't rate one higher than the other. All irreplaceable and indispensable.

Norm, this junk yard dawg on a high horse you dreaming up, working animals have unions you know. PETA must be in Vancouver by now, so a word to the wise.....


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Pretty piss poor performance from you tonight Norman.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Calvin you picked three winners. Hillman has dome some lots of incredible stuff, some of it magnificenteven.There was a Sugar Hill solo album, Desert Rose (predating the birth of The Desert Rose Band), that was transcendent. McGuinn has had his monents. But, Silver Raven is MichaelFuckingAngelo work.

Songwriting, I give it to Clark. Voice wise, Clark reached depths and power few will ever, but, Hillman is a fine singer. And McGuinn was a fine singer. Both have signature voices and both have left their mark vocally. and written, or cowritten some fine tunes. I personally prefer Hillman and Clark to McGuinn, but I still can't get myself to thik that one is more talented than the other. They've all contributed too damn much to music and the culture.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Ain't it funny

Gawd Damn Jeff, (you can copy me some more). You think nothing of the personal insults you have hurled, like at Kristie not long ago. But then something you think you can run with like the old junk yard dog with the bone in his teeth, here you go agin. Up on your high horse.

I keep tryin' to tell people you got a brain, 'cept evr time you open yer moUTh you makE me out to be a LIAR! I typed that so you should be able to understand it.



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Posted by:

Lars Pedersen

Location: The Woods of Pine Bush, NY

Subject: Northern Africa

EMPTY NOW- I don't know anybody who's knowledgable about modern Africa, so I hope you don't mind if I ask your opinion on it. You mentioned Algeria in your last post, Do you know anything about it's neighbor to the south, Mali? To be specific, is Mali the kind of place a 22 year old American girl would be safe, if she spent three years in a village teaching English to the poverty-stricken children (she would be teaching them in French). She would be a peace corp volunteer, so she certainly isn't about to do this for the money.

Another question of the same vein: would Benin be safer?

Pretend you had a daughter who had just joined the peace corp and she volunteered to teach for 30 months in one of these two countries, with no visit home during that time. While no place on earth is perfectly safe, do you think Mali is more dangerous than Benin? Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Hey Norm- (avast.) Why don't you just come out and admit that Susan is a beautiful woman who doesn't even look 40. The truth is that we both know she can do better than an irate old sailor who looks like Perry Como and just happens to sing well. Didja ever work as a barber?


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Here I am, Westo, trying to help you out of a corner, and you're catching an attitude. Funny how it turns out that if you credited where credit was due to start with, you'd have nothing to be grumbling about now.

Repeating a joke made in bad taste, well, if you point out it was in bad taste to start with, that ain't as bad as making it to start with, really it isn't.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Correction

Get off it Jeff. It wasn't my joke it was Jay Leno or Conan or one of them. You've always got some stupid remark to make anyway.


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Posted by:

Calvin

Youre right Jeff, I was thinking completely in the vein of singing and songwriting when I spoke up Gene's talents overshadowing the others. I also think later in life he was the better performer of McGuinn and Hillman. All those years of doing solo shows, and I do mean solo, turned him into someone who really owned a stage. And that voice was amazing. For me it really comes down to as good as McGuinn and Hillman are theyve never done anything as wonderful as Silver Raven, Spanish Guitar or With Tomorrow.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: name that tune?

I heard a track in B&Q (a large outlet for home improvement type wares) this evening - I've already said how you hear better music in chain stores these days than on the radio. Anyway it was a nice laid back kind of tune about someone driving south of LA, wondering if anyone else felt the same, the chorus sounded something like 'our heart knows the way,' It was kind of gentlish country rock with a slight Southern feel and the odd jazzy break-chord. I thought it might be Jackson Browne though I don't know his stuff. I tried googling what I remembered of the lyric but to no avail. Does anyone recognise it from these scraps?? Thanks - Luke


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Subject: Norman

Actually , Norman, you would have been less offensive to many sensibilities had you written Rosa Parks rather than Aunt Jemima in your post earlier today.

Of course, since this isn't a political forum, I just figure you figure that no one gets offended and it's okay. So if you figure that, then no one should be offended. So, i'll kosher it for you Westo. Anyone who was offended, don't be. It don't mean nothing anyway.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: gene

Jeff and David, I am a great fan of Gene (and have read that account of David C doing a number on Gene C) but I have to admit that all early Byrds had a certain magic. For example I bought the extended edition of Sweetheart expecting to be blown away by the original Gram vocals, but I wasn't, it's not just that I grew up (or came of age) with the original LP, also that there is huge nous and charm to the vocals substituted for Gram's. But I would still place Gene first among equals, nothing in his early Byrds output is callow or second rate, even the direct Needles and Pins rip-off (Feel a Whole Lot ... like Needles and Pins, let's be honest) has a life of its own, and the same cannot be said for his fellow plumed ones. And beyond this, his best is better. Band fans know as well as any how personality can shape a career, and I think it's clear that Gene wasn't cut out to be Gene, any more than the English footballer Gazza is cut out to be Gazza.


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Posted by:

Bill M

While they were also among the very best reasons to loathe punk rock, the Viletones were Toronto's key punk bands of the "golden" era of the late '70s. For whatever reason, I scanned the liner notes to a Viletones CD released relatively recently (of an early '80s live show, it seemed) and was shocked to see a thanks to Garth Hudson. Don't know why. For the completists among you, it's titled "I'm Gonna Fuck You Now".

dlew: As you've mentioned Neil Peart a few times, you might care that he drums and/or percusses on several songs on the Rheostatics' "Whale Music" CD. Credited with background vocals on one song is the Scarborough Naked Youth Choir, who were really the Barenaked Ladies (who are from the Scarborough area of Toronto).

Steve: I realised that I had a Buffalo Springfield best-of CD close at hand, so I gave it a couple listens. Since we share an interest in mystery bongs, I'll suggest that you listen for one right at the end of each military drum roll on "Broken Arrow" - except for the last roll, which instead ends in bongless studio psychedelia.

I was also struck by how good, and versatile, Dewey Martin was. Positively Levonesque at times. Maybe it wasn't Martin and Palmer on "Broken Arrow", but whoever it was (unless a pro jazz player) deserves a pat on the back for their work on the jazz part of that song. Very fast and fluid bass especially.


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Posted by:

Steve

Norm I don't remember Sharon Stone wearing any clothes in that movie, never mind underwear.


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Posted by:

kristie

Subject: Che

I saw "Che:the roadshow edition"(all five hours of it) last night and enjoyed it. Although it had it's faults,this was the first Steven Sodenbourg movie, for me, that didn't immediately reek of Hollywood. They took liberties with the story, but they kind of had to as details leading up to and after his execution are shaky. Overall I think they were respectful of his life and story.

Although, I have to say, after reading a lot about him and reading his own motorcycle diaries....I have very conflicted feeling about him as a person and his moral character. And I sensed in the film there was undertones questioning his reason for it all, and his tactics. Even Fidel questions his reason in the film and calls him "crazy."

This is not a film about Che Guevara, this is a film about "Che" the man he became after meeting Fidel and helping to lead the "revolution," which eventually defined who he would be for the rest of his life. I guess the film is aptly titled.

Anyone else seen it yet?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Billy Bragg’s overdone accent does get to me badly. But I saw him with The Imagined Village and reluctantly I had to admit he was brilliant. Still, something of a “rentagob”.

Lionel Richie did a long interview. He said that the others in the band kept competing to get funk songs on the albums. All he did was bring slow songs, and they always put two slow songs on an album so he always got two on. Then those became the really big singles. He had a nice anecdote about offering to play the hostess’s favourite song at a party, and she asked for “Lady” (which he gave to Kenny Rogers) and he sat down at a piano and could remember neither the chords nor the lyrics.


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Trying to Reply In accordance with........

STEVE! Open your eyes my boy! They're all around you. Brittany Spears, Sharon Stone in that.....what was it...Fatal Attraction. NO panty hose or PANTIES! It's hard on an old man's heart.

My personal experiences??? Forget it. We're not going there. Like Waylon said in his "Audio Biography". If I told what I know, some body might get shot or something. I mean.... the only way to leave this world, is to be shot by a jealous husband just as you're goin' out the window, at the age of 95!

Joan, I'm sorry to tell you. I can't make on honest woman out of Susan. In her words, "You had your chance in 1967. You didn't get it done then, so you sure as hell aren't doing it now." But I did get her to change her name, from carryin' around some guys name she hasn't had anything to do with for 12 years. Now she's who she was when I met her, and we're the same as we were in 1967.

We watched quite a touching show the other night, about two different couples who were in love, and found each other after most of a life time. It was a pretty good show, except that Susan kept glaring at me all through the show.

There's a lot of country songs about, just these situations, like "Don't You Ever Get Tired of Hurting Me", or "Pass Me By if You're Only Passing Through". Maybe the great Sneezy Waters song, "You've Got Sawdust on the Floor of Your Heart". One of Marty Robbins, which I have covered on my CD, (Which by the way, I've just been today getting the work done for the copies, and art work and production) Marty's song, "Don't Worry 'Bout Me".


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Posted by:

David P.

Jeff: Even more impressive is that Chris Hillman wasn't even a bassist when he joined the group. He was a bluegrass mandolinist who worked hard to quickly master the electric bass.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Calvin, I don't mean to speak for you, but I would agree with your statement more if you actually mean that with regards to the Byrds, Gene Clarks' talents appeal to you the most of any of the group members. Otherwise , I' d have to argue with you that McGuinn and Hillman;s strengths in areas Gene wasn't as strong make them all equals. As a instrumentalist, Hillman ias rather strong. And while Clark is one of my favorite vocalists ever, neither of the other three are slouches.


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Posted by:

Steve

Anyone signed up yet for the Beatles MA degree being offered at Liverpool Hope University?


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Byrd Unwired

According to many accounts, David Crosby literally took the rhythm guitar away from Gene Clark in the Byrds. In an early display of hubris, he intimidated Mr. Clark by telling him that his playing & timing weren't up to the task. So Mr. Crosby ended up with the Gretsch guitar in his hands onstage.


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Posted by:

Calvin

Do I remember right Peter in thinking you dont like Billy Bragg because after 20some years he still sings with that dreadful English accent straight out of My Fair Lady?

Personally I've always loved Billy, and your right, a lot has to do with personality. The man flat out has passion about his songs some 25+ years into his career. And frankly a lot of his songs, Red to Blue comes to mind, resonate with me everytime I hear them.

I found the Lionel Richie comment funny, as if memory serves early on their drummer shared lead vocals, and writing credits, with Richie and handled some of their bigger dance hits. I know Brick House was his. And wasnt their only grammy win after Richie left the group, that song about Marvin Gaye, so the brand breaking up wasnt quite true.

Gene Clark, yeah-funny how he looks lost early on. He was the guy with the biggest resume when the Byrds hit, by a ton. And he clearly was the dominant songwriter on the first few albums. For my money by far the most talented Byrd.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: The Great Folk Scare

Speaking of folk music -- Tom Rush has just released his first studio album in 35 years, "What I Know" on Appleseed Records. Along with Eric Andersen and Ian & Sylvia, he was part of the folk contingent on the Festival Express. Emmylou Harris, Nanci Griffith and Bonnie Bramlett make guest appearances. Once of the highlights of the album is Mr. Rush's mellow version of the Mentor Williams song "Drift Away", a hit for Dobie Gray years ago. The CD was produced by Jim Rooney in Nashville. Mr. Rooney, a fellow veteran of the Cambridge, Mass. folk scene with Mr. Rush, was also once a member of the group Borderline, who recorded their excellent 1972 "Sweet Dreams and Quiet Desires" album at Bearsville Studios. Both Richard and Garth played on that record.


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Posted by:

Steve

Norm, what size of group did your "polling" involve that led you to that conclusion about this trend toward panty-less pantyhose wearers? Inquiring minds want to know.

Peter, good to hear you give Billy some credit. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but he does have something important to say at times and some talent to deliver it with.


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Posted by:

alexey

Web: My link

Is glad to welcome you! Your site very entertaining, thanks you for creation of such informative and entertaining site, excuse for my English


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The usual!

Joe Jennings! What'er you doin' with yer hand up some girl's skirt!!! Aw the nylons and garter belt.....they came back for a while too y'know. You can always tell when they're wearing those gawd damn pantie hose, when they fart they bulge out at the knees! Now a days most of 'em don't even wear the panties.

LARS! The reason I'd be hollerin' is 'cause I'm goin' deaf, and to try and be heard when the voice is getting old and shaky. No skeletons, no closet. How in hell are you doing you gawd damn old deer slayer??? We just came back from the new house. I just about had to drag Susan back by the hair. She loves the home and the place and didn't want to leave.

Don't you guys be putting me up on Mt Rushmore. There's all these little kids with paint ball guns now a days. I can just see what the little buggers would do to my hansome countenance........little bastards. It'd be worse than the sea gulls on the statue of liberty. I heard they changed that for Aunt Jemima now.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I watched two things I’d taped at Christmas last night. “Sings Dylan” and “Folk America”.

The former was very interesting, with early Byrds miming badly to All I Really Want To Do. It reminded me of our tambourine discussion, because poor Gene Clark really looked like a spare prick at a wedding, tapping the tambourine and watching McGuinn singing. Or miming singing, in this case. Then there was Lulu doing Mr Tambourine Man accompanied by a dozen or so dancers (with tambourines naturally) in 1972, and you had to wonder whatever possessed her to change the tune. And she looks far sexier at sixty than she did at 25. Then there was Eric Clapton doing Knocking on Heaven’s Door with a terribly serious expression but lovely guitar fills, and Manfred Mann doing The Mighty Quinn with Mike d’Abo dancing around like a pixie. They were the best bits. Julie Felix was dire doing Masters of War, and even The Staples Singers came off badly because they were doing the dreadful Gotta Serve Somebody. Peter Paul & Mary stood up to time surprisingly well. It was all BBC Archive stuff.

Folk America, a concert from the Barbican, was poor in comparison. McGuinn didn’t appeal at all. Eric Andersen was plain boring (which surprised me, maybe it was the song, Violets of Dawn) and Billy Bragg came off well next to them. And I don't like Billy Bragg, but he has got personality, which at the end of the day you need.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Newport Folk Fest founder back on the job.

George Wein (83), founder of the Newport (RI) Folk & Jazz Fest, will be back producing the festival after the new owner is experiencing financial difficulties. The festival was founded in '54. Dylan, joined by the pre-The Band members, went electric for the 1st time @ the '65 festival.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Portland, ME museum rock & roll photog exhibit.

The "Portland Museum of Art" is featuring a cool rock & roll photography exhibit called "Backstage Pass: Rock & Roll Photography." This exhibit runs until March 22nd.


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Posted by:

Steve

Empty, I got out my globe and yes there it is, North Africa. You're part of the world, as we know it. Good to see that chocolate hasn't been hit by a 50% increase like car-parking. Good to see Algeria has its priorities in the right order.

My wife, Marge, is really into chocolate. She buys it in 20lb blocks from a baking supply warehouse in Rhode Island.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Jean

A pound store is where everything costs 1 pound - I should think soon to be Euro store....

we have dollar stores here ...


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Posted by:

Jean

Subject: Poundstore

Like so many other times a GB post has sent me to the dictionary and internet to look up the meaning of something unfamiliar to me. This time it was Luke's reference to a poundstore. The only reference I can find to it is one equating it to a dollar store here in the U.S.

What is a poundstore?


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Steve

Provided that North-Africa is part of the global world, yes
Visible indices of change this month: the car-parking increased from 20DA to 30DA, my preferred brand of chocolate bar increased from 45 to 50 DA, etc…
– Reminder: dangerous financial situations out of Northern-Western countries is really nothing new
One of the reasons i stuck into your recent topic(s) is that i always had an aversion for financial matters (and maybe overpaid financial experts too, and businessmen in a nutshell).
There was a time when I was a real good phraseologist, I once wrote in a local newspaper a text exposing some personal socio-economical observations, titled “On Algerians and Money”, containing the following passage [I try the best translation]:
“I once thought that businessmen are a race of weak people just endowed with the virtue of skillfully handling the Denarii, in reality they are the ones who shaped this world where this virtue is a virtue” – [wow! it’s here that one must applause]
Unfortunately I was harshly accused of anti-Semitism for this sentence by a learned society. ...Where the hell is anti-Semitism? Here’s is the triumphant bulimia again. Even Mr Peter V wouldn’t find the least trace of anti-Semitism in this [sublime of truth] passage


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Posted by:

Steve

OK, Kevin why didn't you fess up to having read The Satanic Verses before now, when I was looking for someone to discuss the exact subject you referred to. What did you think of the book?

Empty, I don't know much about Walesa, except that he smokes too much. I followed his story back in the day when he was making waves down in the shipyard in Gdansk but didn't follow his life after that.Sorry I forgot to mention that earlier.

I'm hearing from a friend of mine that some countries in North Africa where he has relatives are getting close to dangerous situations because of the global economic crisis. Are you seeing any changes?

Brien I wasn't talking about you, I know you're a careful trader.

I did think about you though when I heard that some US states that have the death penalty are giving up on it because of the cost. I say that because I'm sure I remember you making the argument that the market is the best regulator of society.

Maybe you're right in some respect. When appeals on humanitarian grounds or the fact that some innocent people will probably be executed fall on deaf ears it's good to know that finances can still bring about the best outcome.

According to a senator in the Kansas legislature the cost was just too prohibitive in these fiscally demanding times. 1.2 million for a death sentence trial vs 700 grand for life in prison.

It was interesting to hear her describe the death penalty business. Prosecutors that specialize in death sentence cases make a killing financially. $700 grand per case. Nice gig if you can get it.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: the tempts

David Ruffin had a really extraordinary voice. His solo stuff has its moments, but one keeps wishing for stronger material. He sounds like a king in a poundstore, looking in vain for something that will restore him to his former glory. Mind you, I like poundstores. They are catching on.


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: van the man of few words

I really enjoyed the Van interview. I've never heard him speak before. Off to Belfast on Monday, I will have to take Astral Weeks along with me, though I hardly need to, it will pour out along the back streets in my old mind. I also noted the correction on Richard, but sadly there wasn't time to explore it in the interview.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, misread it. It did make sense.


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Posted by:

Peter V

By "Richard" you mean "Rick". Imus mentioned Rick, Van corrected it to Richard.

I would take a bet that Van left the studio clutching a "Dirt Farmer" CD courtesy of Imus.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Motown

I agree with the books David suggested, but the beautiful year-by-year Motown singles box sets present the story in loving detail. However, they are "the authorized versions".


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Richard

Thank you Jean for reminding me of the sad anniversary of Richard Manuel’s passing. I remember exactly where I was and how I felt when the FM station announced the death. The Ruth Albert Spencer interview with Richard ( found on The Band website ) is recommended.

I liked how Van Morrison was quick to correct Imus that it was Richard he hung out with in Woodstock.........


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Posted by:

David P.

Jean: Out of the many choices, I can think of a couple good ones. There's "Nowhere To Run: The Story of Soul Music" by Gerri Hirshey and Nelson George's "Where Did Our Love Go?: The Rise and Fall of the Motown Sound". I'm sure others can recommend some more.


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Posted by:

Jean

Subject: Richard & A Motown Question

Today marks the 23rd anniversary of the day the Band could never really be the Band again. Very sad.

It was mentioned earlier that The Temptations fell apart because they couldn't agree on a lead singer. Like the Band, they had an embarassment of riches in that department. I've watched The Temptations biopic on t.v. a few times recently but it seems somewhat slanted to the views of Otis Williams'. Understandable as it is based on his book but it has made me curious about the early days of Motown. Can anyone recommend a definitive book or books that I could read to learn more? David P - you always know this stuff. Anyone else? Thanks,


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Posted by:

David P.

No doubt that the Beatles' decision to stop touring was a major force in upsetting the balance of the group from a financial standpoint, as far as George & Ringo were concerned. I believe that the differences in artistic direction between John & Paul, as well as George for that matter, also played a major part. Throw in the void in management following Brian Epstein's death, and I think in comparison, the woman factor was a minor contribution.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Advances of technology

This video is perhaps a bit off subject but I found it amazing. The march of technology.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: Dave Mason, Eric Clapton, Delaney & Bonnie

Alone Together is IMHO a masterpiece, part of a whole slew of cross-pollination taking place at that time among Dave Mason, Clapton, Leon Russel, D&B, Joe Cocker, even George Harrison, resulting in Mad Dogs & Englishmen, Derek & Dominoes, the first Clapton solo record and more. It was in Delaney & Bonnie and Friends that some of the Brits found willing partners to indulge in and explore the sounds they heard coming out of Big Pink? I seem to recall a story wherein EC shows up in Woodstock and says, "C'mon, let's jam!" and JRR blows him off with a curt "We don't jam."

Coincidentally, D&B&Friends On Tour With EC is in the bag today, and does list Dave Mason in the credits although it is unclear what he is on besides Only You Know And I Know. Were he and Eric on board at the same time? One can only wonder how much more material from this tour exists in vaults somewhere. Granted even on this single disk, the Little Richard Medley has always felt a bit like filler, so maybe not. Has any additional material ever surfaced?


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Steve

au contraire, every time i exchanged ideas with you it was a pleasure, the topic was not prematurely interrupted, say everything has been said
in general when i talk in The GB, i pursue researches in margin, [link above] thanks to you i learned today what's the longest verse in Qur'an (2:282)
maybe the absence of echo about Lech Walesa cut my hunger
one more time Steve, thanks


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Jimmy

Lars, he may have been attacked by a bunny, but never forget, he lusted in his heart. For the bunny???


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Beatles W.A.G.s

WAGs are "wives and girlfriends' known as such from the entourage of the England football team at the World Cup. You have to say the Yoko factor was a major element in the Beatles breakup, then later Paul wanted to go with the Eastmans (not Allen Klein) and subsequent events indicate he was probably right, so I think WAGs were a factor.

I also think it would have happened anyway eventually. BTW, on composer credits I found an excellent copy of "Hello little Girl" by The Fourmost on Saturday. Composer credits back in 1963 read "McCartney-Lennon" on this disc, so that argument had some history to it too. It wasn't always Lennon-McCartney on the credit line, as I'd thought.


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Posted by:

David P.

Peter: It's also quite daft to attribute the Beatles' collapse to women, even though Mr. Richie may have his own take on that subject :-)


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Steve

Steve: With respect to the clarification you desire – here goes - The ditch digger with the great hair was Rod Stewart.....the overrated, pompous novelist that lost the plot was S. Rushdie and the supermodel that quite predictably walked out on the hapless twerp was Padima Lakshmi. Always remember that “celebrity” is a tricky beast to ride. His very intentional provocation that resulted in the fatwa brought with it a cachet that is/was the envy of all the pathetic people that worship at the altar of celebrity culture. Paris Hilton got to the exact same place as S. Rushdie.....she made a tape that titillated millions.....he wrote a book that insulted millions.....“Celebrity culture” makes no distinction. Both are stars and all who pay homage to that stardom have my contempt…….

I forgot what I said about Barbara Frum.....She wasn’t in Faces was she???


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Posted by:

Peter V

Oh, another good point. He puts the secret of his success down to sitting very quietly watching Marvin Gaye in the studio, then repeating the exercise with Stevie Wonder.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Heard an interview with Lionel Richie on Radio Two. He was asked why The Commodores broke up (a mildly daft question). He said they watched The Temptations collapse over who'd sing lead vocal and The Beatles over women and were determined not to make the same mistake. But it all comes down to equal shares, he said. That works with bands when you earn $100 from a gig, take out the gas money and split the rest. No one argues. Then, he said, one of you writes Three Times A Lady, and follows it with Easy. And equal isn't equal anymore.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: The Rise and Fall of Capitalism in the USA

Brien- The last time we talked you were hesitant about shorting the market, even with Bear ETFs. I'm glad you reconsidered. After years of taking a beating from the markets, I've recouped my losses (knock on wood). I've been playing a 3x Short for financials (FAZ) and simply buying at the lower end of the trading range and riding it up to the higher ends. Looks like it's approaching its higher end again, but the financials are in such shambles that every time they try to rally the hedge funds, and everyone under the sun, uses the opportunity to sell off into the rally. I'm not even going to sell FAZ today even though it's going to take a hit this morning. I have a stop loss in place in case it really tanks.

I don't use inside information because by the time I get it it's old news. My ace in the hole is that Treasury Sec. Tim Guethner is going on tv this afternoon and that usually kills any rally. Next stop is the lows of 1995, if not today then soon. In a nutshell, Obama wants more stimulus money and I don't think Congress will help him out any more. The dollar will eventually inflate and unemployment will exceed 10% and then we'll take another leg down into a Depression.

Maybe we should move to Norway, they're doing great and they have national healthcare, as well as savings from their oil in the North Sea. I expect to retire on Nantucket and move back to this area every summer when the tourists show up on the island. We'll see.


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Posted by:

David P.

Web: My link

Subject: Songs & A Poem From L. Cohen

Next month the Sundazed label will release LP reissues of the following Leonard Cohen albums:

Songs of Leonard Cohen
Songs from a Room
Songs of Love and Hate
Live Songs
New Skin for the Old Ceremony

A new poem from L. Cohen, "A Street", was recently published in The New Yorker magazine (see link).

Also coming in April is an album of new songs from Bob Dylan. Speaking of Dylan -- Have you ever noticed the similarity of Dave Mason's "Look At You, Look At Me" (from "Alone Together") with "All Along The Watchtower"?


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Posted by:

luke m

Subject: richard

Mike, thanks for the link and reminder. For once, I get to the guestbook on the right day (for the wrong reasons) at this time of year. Was listening to Great Pretender and Share Your Love only yesterday, and Richard's voice - with the amazing, supportive ensemble playing that characterises the whole of Moondog - never fails to thrill me.


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Posted by:

alexey

Web: My link

Is glad to welcome you! Your site very entertaining, thanks you for creation of such informative and entertaining site, excuse for my English


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Steve - don't fool yourself - there's a boatload of money to be made on shorting the market as well. I know I shifted some funds out of stocks into Bear Funds and have seen those make more money than any stocks that I still hold, which is minimal. Still - I'm not a short seller.., in the sense that I bet on individual stocks going down. I let the fund do that.


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Posted by:

Keith

Web: My link

Is glad to welcome you! Your site very entertaining, thanks you for creation of such informative and entertaining site, excuse for my English Keith


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Subject: Remembering Richard Manuel today....

Too soon gone.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Jimmy Carter

What I like aboit him is that he is a humble man, and a man who has very genuine beliefs. That's not to say he was the best President, but I'd rather go to his church than the last or the current incumbents. PS i don't attend church


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Posted by:

Steve

Empty, was it my mention of the Oud Superstar, Khalife, wearing the pink scarf that brought the thread to a premature end? I'll withdraw it if necessary.


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Posted by:

Steve

Thanks David, I know I don't pay close enough attention to religious terms; deacon, minister, preacher all mean about the same to me and I always assume if someone is an evangelical born again christian that by definition they are a preacher.

Jimmy's one saving grace as a member of the southern baptist congress is that he split from the group saying they are too strict by which it seems he meant too repressive and controlling of the lives of women.

For that small step on your road to the wild side, I salute you, President Carter.

Anyone else getting the idea that we're not going back to business as we knew it, anytime soon, if ever?

What about all these over paid financial experts, investment gurus, bankers and the like who've made so much cash over the last couple of decades being exposed as really knowing no more than the rest of us when it comes to how the financial system really works.

I guess if you have some cash, some inside info and a rising market it's possible to be an investment super star.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: short discussion about a discussion

Steve : Thanks, thead over
Lars : great post
^^^^ ^^^^

Though the population i discuss with in true life is basically different of The Band GB, not a surprise, i discuss exactly the same way in true life as in The Band GB – the next sample is not representative, I just find it worth a posting

Though deeply warned about the awesome spirit of vanity [conceit?] & pedantry which prevails in the Malouf music circles, I was discussing with a Monsieur, for whom btw I have great consideration and respect, a line from a Malouf song, then
He [in FR] – do you know what “swalef” means ?
Me [spontaneously] – of course, it’s a classic Arabic word for “long hair”
He [even more spontaneously] – ah, indeed I explained it to you before

I let you imagine the powerless interior silent anger which followed for a few seconds…


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: by the turtle pond

Subject: Faces breakup/ reunion?

Bob W, I saw Dave Mason recently as I usually do at least yearly. It's always a stellar show. He varies his setlist a bit, but also knows that some of his audience are there for a taste of "We Just Disagree", "World in Changes" and a rave-up version of "All Along the Watchtower". He played acoustic guitar on Jimi Hendrix's "Watchtower, but he's played a very nice electric on it in concert for decades now. The CD with Capaldi is one I enjoy a lot, too. "40,000 Headmen" sounds quite a bit like it did yesteryear, only the recording techniques and newer instruments lend a clarity that was unattainable nearly 40 years ago. "Pearly Queen". Feeling Alright?", "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" & "Dear Mr Fantasy" are quite a treat, too.

I also caught Ian McLagan and his Bump Band play Saturday. He favors a number of the tunes written by Ronnie Lane, including "Glad and Sorry", "Kutschy Rye", "You're So Rude" and "Debris". In his biography, "All the Rage", he tells of answering the phone in 1972(?) to find Mick Jagger on the line offering Ronnie Wood a spot in the Stones. Mac says he replied that Woody was happy just where he is now, thank you. He never told Wood about that call. Later when Ronnie Lane wrote "Ooh La La", there was a tiff where Rod Stewart didn't like Lane's vocals on the original take, and re-did it. This led to Ronnie Lane leaving The Faces in '73. Although they soldiered on with Tetsu Yamouchi trying to fill Lane's spot, that was the beginning of the end. In 1975, Stewart quit, and afterwards Woody got another "temporary fill in" offer from the Stones, and just never left. This past Saturday Mac was telling his audience that Woody floated the idea of a Faces reunion this fall, the rehearsals were fun and everyone was in fine form. In November Rod stated that he would join Woody, Mac and Kenny Jones for a recording, tour & maybe a film. Then there was nothing more heard. By Christmas, Mac said that he had work to do, and planned a Bump Band tour. And that's it. He said don't believe anything you read in the press or online about a tour unless you hear it from him or read it on macspages.com. because macspages is bullshit free. And then he said, "So don't ask me any more about it, 'cause I don't know".


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Posted by:

Jan F.

Location: metro DC

Subject: Van Morrison

Did Van only do the one song last night (or early this AM) on the Jimmy Fallon show? Mr. Steve, sometimes a dimbulb -(is that one word or two?) set it up to record and it ended just as Van finished "Sweet Thing" then all we had was what was left of the Grammy's show we taped. Something about Katie Perry kissing a girl.

Jan F.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: US Navigational History

It's hard to believe that almost thirty years have gone by since Jimmy Carter defended himself from an assassination attempt by "Caerbannog."

In April of 1979 Pres. Carter was fishing in a rowboat near his home in Plains, GA. His armed secret service detail was on shore and they observed "Caerbannog" swimming directly towards the president. With nose flared and teeth bared, it was obvious that the assassin meant to board the Presidential rowboat. Driven to a basic impulse to survive, Pres Carter struck the irate rabbit several times with a paddle. "Caerbannog" was photographed as he swam away in defeat. The president's approval rating went slightly up.


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Posted by:

David P.

Steve: Although President Carter has tought a Sunday school class and has been a deacon in his Baptist church, in addition to his full career in state & national politics, he has espoused his religious beliefs as a layman, not a minister. It was his late sister Ruth Carter Stapleton who was an evangelical preacher.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: 24 years!! To quote a Joe Boyd client, Sandy Denny, "Who Knows Where the Time Goes?"


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Posted by:

Mike Camp

Location: NY

Subject: Beacon Rambles

Anyone going to the Beacon Theater for Levon's 3 day run this week? I'll be at Thursday & Saturday's show.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: SnB book

Twenty four, I think. 1985? The later one "Black vinyl, white powder" is better.


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Posted by:

Steve

Empty, actually I don't think I made any personal comment about the PHd's and Engineers at the head of Hamas in Egypt.

What I found interesting was that Carter, a born again Evangelical Christian preacher seemed to think it was important that the world knew that these Hamas leaders were not religious people and that this information would actually be a positive thing to reveal about them.

I thought it was somehow ironic that one religious leader saw this as a positive thing to stress about other people. It was like he was saying, these people, are not insane, unreasonable or irrational, they're not religious people!

You could hear it in his voice as he was trying to stress the importance of this fact.

Kevin, the point of your Rushdie comment went flying way over my head. What the hell were you saying? I'm filing it with the, Too silly to comment on",post about Barbara Frum from a few weeks back, for now.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Is the SN-B book maybe 15 years old? I'm pretty sure I saw something about him that many years ago where he talked about his misadventures with a punk group called London. (With a name like that and a punk persona, do you title your first single "More Than A Fuckin' Feelin'" or "Twenty-Fuckin'-Five Or Six-To-Fuckin'-Four"?)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Hi-Ho Silver Lining

I doubt that I’ve ever mentioned Jeff Beck before (let alone gone to any lengths to knock him, but who knows, I might be wrong as he's not high on my radar). As well as Wham, Napier-Bell managed The Yardbirds, Forever More, and Marc Bolan. He has an amusing paragraph on Beck’s amp smashing, says he was always “petulant” but clearly thought him a brilliant guitarist. In the end, he says, “The Yardbirds were a miserable bunch. They really were” which matches with what I’ve heard from anyone who was touring the UK at the time. Try out the SnB Records sampler. Napier-Bell produced some great stuff. And is indeed a very “bitchy” commentator, like Andrew Loog Oldham.

Townsend savaged empty Marshall cabinets, then savaged one with just a single working speaker (not four). I’ve spoken to the Who’s roadies. I’ve seen the large roll of Marshall speaker cloth they carried with them, for the task of stretching a new lot over two cabinets every night. I’ve seen the 12 inch speakers ready to replace the one (usually just the one) that was destroyed nightly. Napier-Bell merely points out that Jeff Beck never worked out the Who’s system. And it was him who blagged them onto the scene in the movie which was planned for The Who.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Good point. I've felt much the same way whenever I've picked up Joe Boyd's book in stores and flipped through it. Just too many unnecessary personal digs and tittletattle, often masquerading as wistful remeniscences - and I'm pretty reverential when it comes to Boyd's work as a producer.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Jeff Beck

Peter……..You will go to any length to knock Jeff Beck but Napier-Bell????? Quite literally dirty laundry nonsense from a former manager of Wham!!!!!!! Beck should have put him in a stack in 66 and blown that up!!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: There must be a link between the Relf-NapierBell incident and our guys' fanciful lines, "The management said they were sorry for the inconvenience you are suffering, and Mr Booking Agent, please have mercy: don't book the jobs so far apart".


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Steve:

point - 2. will remain one unresolved mystery for posterity, i remember that by TLW era Jimmy Carter almost did a diplomatic incident during an official visit in Poland..., as he declared "I am pleased to visit Poland", the official interpreter translated in Polish into a form which to the great displeasure of the Polls officials rather meant "I am in a hurry to invade Poland"
Carter is even not capable to have a good English to Polish drogman
take it easy Steve, et encore i did'nt dare to comment one of your posts about PhDs and Professors being political leaders
talking of Poland - not PhD nor Professor, not anything at all, curious to know your take of Lech Walesa, as a stateman ?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Simon Napier-Bell managed the Yardbirds. I'm reading his "You Don't Have To Say You Love Me" account of the 60s. he is less than complimentary about the Yardbirds in general, and Jeff Beck in particular. The bit I was reading over breakfast entailed Keith Relf phoning Napier-Bell from the mid-West in the middle of the UK night. He was just going on stage and woke Napier-Bell 5000 miles away with a "serious problem." He had no clean socks to wear.

The filming of Blow-Up got Beck over-excited about amp smashing and on a US tour they ran out of Marshalls to smash, and Beck would not demolish any other amp. (No one told them that The Who used to carry a truck load of empty cabinets and that Pete Townsend knew which one to smash up).


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Deam Gig 2009

bob w....that would be a RnR Heaven for me! Funny though that Beck tossed both Stewart and Wood from his band ( as legend has it ) for being 20 minutes late to a rehearsal for Woodstock – as they had been scheduled to play the festival!! Years later, both Wood and Stewart still talk about this with a sense of bewilderment and affection………..


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Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Kevin

How about an hour of Beck, Rod, Ian McLagan, Kenney Jones and Woodie on "Truth" to open the show then Faces for ninety minutes or so?

I've got my credit card ready.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Dave Mason's induction to RRHOF

Fued or no fued......Winwood and Mason together at RRHOF. Nice little speech at the end...........


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Dave Mason

Just looked at what’s available on itunes for Dave Mason – anyone have thoughts on the 1999 live disc he did with Jim Capaldi? “Alone together” seems not to be available.

Faces: Great news if it happens. Even better if keeping Wood occupied for a year or longer would thwart the plans of the Rolling Stones as it was the that evil little bugger Mick Jagger that split up the Faces back in 1974.

S. Rushdie: When a ditch digger with the best face and hair Rock n Roll has ever known falls in with a supermodel – that’s ok.....but when someone like Rushdie does it, it tells you all you need to know about the extent to which he had lost the plot!!!


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

If you can put aside church dogma, Jesus does preach/teach to a degree that is zen like and if you ever read the Gospel of Thomas and certain other Gnostic literature you can find traces of the same throughout them as well.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Steve / Brien: Zen indeed. For many, apparently, it frees them from having to think. But if it frees you from thinking, while at the same time freeing you from what you think it frees you from ... Oh, my head hurts.


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Posted by:

David P.

Bill M: That would have been the late John Guerin, a top L.A. drummer/percussionist. Among his countless credits was playing in the group L.A. Express, who worked with Tom Scott and Joni Mitchell. Bassist Max Bennett was also a member of that group.


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, even I can't argue with that response. It's so zen like.


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Posted by:

Bill M

To add a bit to David P's post re the multitalents of Sam Cooke, the man's business acumen extended to starting and running a successful label, SAR. I borrowed an excellent two-disc SAR comp from the library a few years ago, so I know there is one. Bobby Womack is among the artists on the label; Cooke himself wasn't, due to contractual obligations.

A worthy but less-known Dave Mason track is "Sundown Lady", his contribution to the Merryweather "Word of Mouth" super-jam album that Capitol released in '69. (The basic group was four Torontonians, joined here by Mason, Steve Miller, Barry Goldberg, Charlie Musselwhite, Bobby Notkoff and Howard Roberts.)

Kevin J: If memory serves, that Valdy album with Jim Gordon drumming also has Max Bennett on bass, somebody Guerin on something, Claire Lawrence on sax and Brett Wade on guitar. Claire's brother Keith was Valdy's manager at the time, and owned the label, Haida. Brett Wade was a Vancouverite who spent time in LA as an Electric Prune (last album only), then returned home with another Prune to start up a new band, Stallion Thumrock, whose only album was also on Haida. Oddly enough, Claire Lawrence, as a member of the Collectors, is all over an earlier LP by the Electric Prunes, "Mass in F Minor". The producers judged the real Electric Prunes to be lacking, and called in the Collectors to sing and play instead. The best known song, "Kyrie Eleison", clearly features the voice of Howie Vickers of the Collectors.


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Posted by:

David P.

Dave Mason crossed paths earlier with Steve Winwood when he was a roadie for the Spencer Davis Band which featured the teenage Winwood. After his first stint in Traffic, Mr. Mason came close to joining Derek & the Dominos. He had hooked up the members of that group during the Delaney & Bonnie & Friends tour. Mr. Mason played with D&TD at their first concert at the Lyceum in London, but soon decided to pursue a solo career instead.

As I mentioned recently, Sir Salman Rushdie (yes he was knighted by the Queen) is currently a distinguished writer in residence at Emory University in Atlanta. Later this month he will be joining the playwright Edward Albee in reading the early letters of Samuel Beckett at a special event here. While that may seem too stuffy for some, Sir Salman seems to be a well-rounded person, as he was married for several years to the former super-model Padma Lakshmi, who now hosts the reality television show Top Chef.


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Posted by:

Mike

Web: My link

Link to a page from the Winter Park, FL history site. The page provides a bit of history on the "Cheek to Cheek Lounge" where Richard Manuel gave his last live performance 23-yrs ago today prior to passing away early the next morning.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Web: My link

Subject: This One Is A Show Stopper, Who'da Thunk It?

Landy, Joan, ya gotta read this one.

In case I forget,remind I have more to post about this after a while.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Subject: from musicwire

Faces Reunion Plans Still Awaiting Rod's Nod Rod Stewart may still reunite with The Faces this year. Gary Graff, Detroit A Faces reunion may still be in the offing this year -- but probably not a full-scale tour or recording project. Keyboardist Ian McLagan tells Billboard.com that the latest idea, proffered by guitarist Ron Wood at a lunch in London with McLagan and drummer Kenney Jones, is "we do a couple shows and film it. Whether Rod (Stewart) wants to do that...I'm hoping he'll be into that 'cause it'll be such a lot of fun. It's what the three of us would like Rod to agree to." The Faces, with Stewart's touring bassist, got together during November in London to play for three days in various configurations. McLagan -- who's currently touring to promote his latest solo album, "Never Say Never," which comes out March 3 -- says the sessions were "really, really great." The following month word leaked that the group would indeed tour, with the Red Hot Chili Peppers' Flea on bass, and that there would also be a new Faces album -- the first since 1973's "Ooh La La." In January both Flea and Stewart denied there would be a Faces tour. McLagan says that Wood is currently in Los Angeles and plans to talk to Stewart about the latest idea. "I'll get a call eventually, and maybe we'll do something in June or July," McLagan says, " 'cause I don't want to do anything next year. I'm not gonna wait again. It's either gonna be this year...It's now or never! I've got my fingers crossed, but I'm not going to waste energy trying to make it happen. I've worked for 30 years trying to make it happen. It's now in the lap of the gods -- or the hands of Rod, maybe." The keyboardist adds that despite other press reports, Wood is "in great shape...and good spirits" and is not currently drinking. "He slips but he stops. He's finding his grace, and it's a struggle," McLagan says. "He's trying really hard." While he waits for word on the Faces' plans, McLagan plans a full year of touring with his Bump Band for "Never Say Never" -- which is dedicated to his late wife, Kim, who died in a 2006 auto accident, and features some songs inspired by the tragedy. "Music is the healer -- I know it as an absolute, stone cold fact," McLagan says. "I wouldn't be here today without the music and my band members, my musician friends. They kept me going. I'm doing much better. I'm fine now. But the tough times, I couldn't have done it on my own."


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Steve - It frees you from whatever you believe it does.


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Posted by:

Steve

Brien, there's the gist of it. Freeing you from what?


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Religion can be a very freeing experience for the individual - it is an oppressive act when put upon the whole.


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Posted by:

dle919

Subject: Empty Now; Steve

The Austarlian essayist, Walter Murdoch (great-uncle of Rupert, but don't hold that against him) said something along the lines of a Christian government would be a great idea, but it's never been tried.

I suspec that it's the same for Jewis, Islam, Hindu, Buddhist and confucian...


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Posted by:

Steve

Empty; 1. Yes, Rushdie is the reference. I know very little about Islam, The Jewish Faith, Sikkism and dozens of others and the one I do know quite well, Christianity, I'm trying to remove from my life but it takes a long long time when you're born into it.

2. A hard one to answer without clarification. Do you mean a statesman who makes decisions based on religious teachings? I'm not trying to dodge the question but need that clarification.

3, No, of course not. I think Joe Stalin was an atheist unless you want to make the argument that his brand of Communism was his religion. I wouldn't say Joe was fundamentally good. There are many more of course but I think Stalin is a great example, he leaves no room to debate his possible goodness.

4, I'm guessing that this question is related to the quote from The Satanic Verses, "Mahound was a businessman who became a Prophet". While it wasn't my quote or thought, I'll just say that if you scratch a religious businessman you're more likely to find more money than religion. My experience, at least with the famous ones I'm aware of is that they speak religion but practice commerce and when they come into conflict,profit trumps prophet.

Hope that answers what you were asking.

I thought you'd have been more interested in the sighting of Khalife in concert wearing "The Pink Scarf". I always find that kind of report more important than anything I might comment on concerning religion.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Van Morrison and his band performed a powerful rendition of "Sweet Thing" last night on Jimmy Fallon's show. I don't know if the video is up yet but here's the show's link.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

In the early 90's I had a chance to meet Dave Mason. I had just gotten a job producing a local entertainment show in the south jersey/Philadelphia area. The State Fair came annually to the race track (no longer there) in Cherry Hill. Dave Mason had top billing one night. I wanted to shoot some concert footage and get an interview. I had my credentials but that was about all I knew or had. Working a stand that was devoted to all Dave Mason products was this stunning blonde - beautiful! I chatted with her a bit about liking Dave Mason - told her who I was - what I was looking to do - and that his song You and Me, We Just Disagree was a song that I equated to a girl that I had just broken up with. No messy breakup, just.., I'm sure you know what I mean. Well - it turns out this beautiful women is Dave Mason's wife. She asks me if I would like to meet him now. I say "Yes!". I have my camera and mic (I'm a one man band at this point in my career) and we head backstage to a trailer. I'm introduced and he is very welcoming and very casual. I chat a bit with the two of them and one or two other folks. He doesn't want to do an on camera interview but lets me ask a few questions and says I can shoot clips of the concert. The interview was more of a friendly chat as I didn't have an agenda or a list of questions - remember, newbie to producing. He was terrific. His wife was terrific. I can't recall what we talked about in detail but I was very impressed by his humble manner and genuine friendliness. His show, by the way, was chuck full of songs that i knew (Traffic and solo) and the ones I didn't were just as entertaining.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Feelin' Alright

During the recent show Dave Mason stated he wrote "Feelin' Alright" when he was seventeen years old. Talk about getting some serious mileage from a great tune.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Feelin' Alright

I read an article on Traffic a few months ago, and the internal "fued" between Winwood and Mason was eventually of "fued" dimensions, but in their case it was the problem of two songwriters in competition for space. Jealousy played a part, because the basic fact was that Island records changed direction from a ska / soul label to the "pink label prog" years initially on the potential of Stevie Winwood. Winwood was why Island went for prog and British acts. Traffic got picture sleeves for their singles which was extremely rare in the UK at that time. So he was always going to be "more equal than the others" and they were managed by Blackwell who owned Island.

Alone Together was, and still is, a stunning record. If you haven't listened to Dave Mason for a while (or at all), try Shouldn't Have Took More Than You Gave (just for starters.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Steve / Bill M

Steve : first I want you to know that i learned a lot from all your posts before, et je vous en remercie énormément.
However, I have to make the point on what I understood from the recent posts [Jimi Carter, Plains-of-Abraham reenactment, Rushdie, and related. Any correction is welcome]:
- 1. Rushdie is the reference
- 2. Religious statesmen are fundamentally bad
- 3. Secular statesmen are fundamentally good
- 4. Businessmen have no religious affiliation

Bill M: thanks for the laugh, and nice point for The Band Connection, I tried to catch the issue


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Posted by:

Trevor

Location: Omemee, Ontario
Web: My link

Subject: Youngtown Rock and Roll Museum

Greetings from Omemee... the childhood hometown of Neil Young and the land of The Band! We dig this web site featuring (perhapes) the best band out of Canada. The Youngtown Museum welcomes visitors to experience the dawn of classic rock ... 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s featuring (among others) Rick Danko personally owned artifacts. Come vist! www.youngtownmuseum.com


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Posted by:

bob w.

Agreed. "Alone Together" is a classic album. In my opinion Dave Mason is underrated as a guitarist, as a singer and as a songwriter. Just saw him a short time back and it was a fantastic show.


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Posted by:

Steve

Abby, I'm flabbergasted to hear you refer to the Secretary Of State by the name that pops into my head every time I hear her voice, except to give the office the respect it deserves I call her, Madame Death Bag.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Web: My link

Subject: Forensic Audio

Follow the link.


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Posted by:

abby

Talk about getting old - putting The Band is Back into whatever it is we'll be putting things in to at that point and my worry, no, let's be honest -- my HOPE is that I'll start telling tales of my days as a Dankette. Reality will be a bit warped...no - a LOT warped and memories will be oh so sweet....I can only hope. Beats that death bag I've been reading about lately.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Sam Cooke

Sam Cooke was that rare combination of a successful recording artist, songwriter and charismatic performer. During the course of his tragically shortened career, he crossed over from gospel into R&B and then into the pop charts. Although he worked with such people as the notorious Allen Klein and the production team of Hugo & Luigi, who earlier worked with Morris Levy at Roulette, Mr. Cooke himself developed an acumen in the business side of music, achieving a high level of creative control along the way.

It is interesting to note that Mr. Cooke was a great influence for Otis Redding. "Otis Blue: Otis Redding Sings Soul", released in September 1965, featured three Cooke covers -- "Shake", "A Change Is Gonna Come" and "Wonderful World" (co-written by Cooke, Lou Adler & Herb Alpert).


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: Frozen Ocean

Subject: SEX Guys ONLY Yeah , Right

Apropos of nothing.

Do y'all remember pre-pantyhose days of stockings and garter belts when you would slide your hand up a girl's leg and touch BARE SKIN ABOVE THE STOCKING. Yeah. Me too. F**king pantyhose.

I'll get over it. Someday.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Lars, well said (the other day) thanks. Ilkka and Joan also thanks.


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Posted by:

joe j

Location: Frozen Ocean

Subject: AKACIGC

The discussion on AKACIGC is why I love this GB.

I'm with Peter on 'Alone Together'. I rarely play Traffic anymore. Could be I'm missing something. 'Alone Together' though is a long time favourite.

The 'Mohammed being Jewish thing' I'll take up with my family doctor. Dr. Mo might have a take on that. When asked by a CBC reporter, he said he had already found Paradise on Earth and that it was right here in Newfoundland.


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Posted by:

David P.

Peter: I believe the "Shake / A Change Is Gonna Come" single was released a little earlier here is the U.S. Mr. Guralnick's biography goes into some detail discussing the fact that Sam Cooke had some trepidation about releasing "ACIGC" as a single, as well as performing live and on television it at the time. Even though he felt it was one of his best compositions, it was such a dramatic departure from the other songs he was performing in his nightclub act at the time. So it was almost a year after recording it before he agreed to put it out on the B-side of "Shake". Another factor was that the single required editing out about 30 seconds from the original recording to make it desirable for radio airplay at the time.


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Posted by:

Peter V

True on both, Bill.

Mr Dynamo at CAN$75? That's £41. The "book" price in Rare Record Guide 2010 is £70 mono mint, £90 stereo. That surprised me … I would think a mono copy worth more because that would surely have been the original mix. That price is for a mint copy, so $75 for "very good" would be a fair tag.

BUT I think it's conservative. The last twice I saw the "Rocking with Ronnie" EP it was £180 and £200. The Rare Record Guide 2010 price is £100 mono, £150 stereo but as dealers will say, 'Right. Now find a copy." As with all rare records, the price variation will be several hundred per cent between different sellers.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Peter V: ACIGC may not've been issued as a single until Jan '65, but it was on an album issued in March '64 (according to the link above). Unfortunately, sources can get it wrong, and it'd be nice to have the CD reissue with its session notes - though even those are sometimes nowhere near as authoritative as they pretend to be (see the Sequel CD reissue of Hawkins' Roulette material, for example).


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Posted by:

Steve

Bill, what are you basing the level of knowledge or education of Jesus on?

Empty, I did a quick check to see if Rushdie made any mention of a previous religious affiliation but he's only referred to as a "businessman turned prophet".

I saw Marcel Khalife, playing at the Lincoln Center on PBS last week and while his playing and singing were splendid I'm sorry to report he was wearing a pinkish/reddish scarf that would put J2Rs' to shame.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Mount Rushmore.......The Hawks

I was in St. Jacob’s, Ontario on the weekend and in an impressive antiques shop, there was quite a collection of old albums. Most were just in bins that anyone could sort through ( I hadn’t realized Jim Gordon had played with Valdy! ) but a few were in locked glass enclosures. The Beatles first listed at $190.00, Rolling Stones first at $175.00 What caught my eye was Ronne Hawkins and the Hawks “Mr Dynamo” listed at $75.00. I saw a bunch of Johnny Rivers and Max Webster and wondered if someone had made off with Bill M’s old stash…………………An observation: most albums had 8 to 9 songs. 5 strong tracks and our memory is that the album is a minor masterpiece. With a CD and 20 songs per release, if only 4 or 5 tracks are good to great, we feel very disappointed. No more middle of the 2nd side gems…..just track 17 – “what the f were they thinking!”

Lars: Family is an interesting thread. I fear when I ‘m 85 and the nurse in the old age home asks if I have any video memories of family, I will reply “some - but I have hours of Bob Dylan and even more of The Band”.....She will answer “Ah…Bob Dylan, I’ve heard of him but what’s this band your babbling about?” I’ll have her pour me a stiff drink and pop TLW or The Band is Back into the machine. The big rock guys are lucky to be preserved in this way.....

dlew: Thank you but even though Steve is the straw that stirs this gb drink, Mt Rushmore is forever and the thought of him going off on an occasional political rant or even more likely, questioning whether Gutzon Borglum worked alone on the sculptures is just too much to even think about.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Bill, David was describing the recording date, I was describing the release date of the singles. I suppose it was on an album earlier than the single, and we can assume that the Hawks would have been in the record store the day a Sam Cooke record came out.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I'm inclined to trust David P and Peter G on the ACIGC dates, which would, as I said earlier, leave lots of time (an entire year) for our guys to have performed the song in Toronto before leaving for NJ and greener pastures beyond. I think we're all agreed on Lee Dorsey's ode to Hinduism, though.


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Posted by:

Peter V

A Change Is Gonna Come was the B-side of "Shake" and was the second posthumous release. Some references say it was released "late 64", but Single File (the definitive guide to British releases) gives it as January 7th 1965. It entered the Billboard chart on 13th February 1965, but it might have been in the R&B chart first. So, yes, The Hawks could easily have done it in New Jersey that summer before Dylan, and probably did. BTW, that's Rick Danko singing lead. We argued it at length and someone finally asked Rick himself.

They certainly never did Holy Cow as The Hawks.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: a change

David P: Thanks. If you don't mind me making a suggestion, simply adding an H to the title of your post would make it perfect. (Mike Love got a big bag of royalty money for lesser contributions!)


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: A Cange Is Gonna Come

Bill M: I checked Peter Guralnick's definitive biography "Dream Boogie: The Triumph of Sam Cooke". Although "A Change Is Gonna Come" was written in late 1963, it was recorded at RCA Studios in L.A. on January 30, 1964. The impetus to write a song dealing with civil rights came when Sam Cooke's friend & business partner J.W. Alexander gave Mr. Cooke a recently released copy of "The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan" and he was "carried away by the message" of "Blowin' In The Wind". After Mr. Cooke wrote the song, it's power was further enhanced by a great orchestral arrangement composed by Rene Hall in the manner of a movie score, with a dramatic overture for strings, kettledrum and French horn. According to Mr. Guralnick, Mr. Cooke's regular drummer John Boudreaux was so "intimidated" by the orchestral arrangement that he "refused to leave the control room". Fortunately, the great Earl Palmer, who happened to have been recording in an adjacent studio, filled in.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Empty N: I see the guy's reading "Keyboards" magazine. Maybe an article on Garth?

As for Mohammed's first religion, I'd assumed Jewish, given his familiarity with its basic points and his ties with Medina, a largely Jewish town at the time. Obviously not terribly learned, though, especially in contrast to Jesus. But in some respects more expansive and inclusive in his thinking.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Van's smile

I think Van's showing off his new choppers, having finally gotten rid of his "Irish mouth". That country's (& England's) dentistry is not a shining example of how well a public health system can work.


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Music

Brien: I think you're right about the change in Van Morrison. I'm still shocked by the photo on that new CD featuring formerly surly Van the Man SMILING. Maybe he's met a new brown-eyed girl.

David: I am sorry I missed that entire series on XM. Though there are some channels I like on the combined XM-Sirius, I do miss Channel 2 which ran the Bob Dylan, Marty Stuart and Tom Petty shows continuously on various days of the week.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the shape they're in

David P: Johnny Rhythm, of Johnny Rhythm and the Suedes 'fame', didn't get to record all that much. A 45 in '61 with a new version of the Suedes (no Robbie, obviously), then nothing until early '70 by which time he, as John Rutter, was one of three singers in the original version of Crowbar (with Richard 'King Biscuit Boy' Newell and Kelly Jay) that had just parted company with Hawkins. The '70 record was an original titled "The Shape I'm In".

Re John Simon, I was listening to Lightfoot's "Did She Mention My Name" LP last night, and noticed that it was produced by Simon in '68 for Groscourt Productions. In addition to Lightfoot's usual accompanists, guitarist Red Shea and bassist John Stockfish, drummer Herb Lovell and guitarist Hugh McCracken are given small-font nods for their work. No word on who's playing piano, steel guitar or banjo, though.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Steve / Ilkka

I asked one day an imam what Muhamad’s religion was before the revelation or, that which is the same, what religion his parents did practice. I thought the answer will come easy. Given the religious map of preislamic Arabia, there are four possibilities : Paganism, Hanif, Judaism, and Christianism, but as the brave imam was lengthening, I shortened:
Me – “I’ve read somewhere that his mother would have practiced Judaism”
He [in the attitude of The Thinker of Rodin] – “hmm, thus, his mother would have been jewish, hmm, that implies logically that Muhamad was raised jewish”
[after a short pause, and exactly on the tone of Madame Sarfati] - “ … funny, but he doesn’t look Jewish”
[…eh bien on djirait pas! …the local version of that hurdy-gurdy joke] some religious persons may have good wit and sharp humour, eh Steve

Ilkka : ask Madame Nilux for my apologies


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: You're right about "Holy Cow" from '66, but the Wikipedia entry for ACIGC says, "A Change Is Gonna Come' is a 1964 single by R&B singer-songwriter Sam Cooke, written and first recorded in 1963 and released under the RCA Victor label shortly after his death in late 1964." So while they'd left Hawkins, they were still in Toronto, with time for Zeke to do his thing. By the way, the most moving performance of the song I've ever witnessed was by Zeke's Blackstone colleague John Finley, backed by Danny Brooks's band, including another Rhino/Blackstoner, Michael Fonfara, on piano and Richard Bell on organ.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Alone Together

Peter: Dave Mason's "Alone Together" has always been one of my all-time favorites. Band connection: John Simon is just one of the many distinguished musicians who contributed to this classic recording. As collectors know, the original pressing of this LP featured multi-colored marbled vinyl.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Interesting idea, Bill. But not two tracks, as A Change Is Gonna Come and Holy Cow,post-date The Hawks as a live band.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Over the weekend I enjoyed the worthy Collector's Choice two-fer CD of the second and third Rhinoceros albums. Right in paragraph one of the liner notes, it says "the band was gaining a reputation as one of the finest live acts of the day, coming across as a 'heavier' version of The Band, crossed with a Booker T & The MG's / Three Dog Night / Springfield vibe."

That got me thinking about their fourth album, done under the group name Blackstone, which was recently reissued on CD. The lead singer throughout Rhinoceros's history was John Finley; as I posted a couple of weeks ago, the second singer at the time of the Blackstone album was Zeke Shepherd, another veteran of the Toronto R&B scene. Zeke's big song in the '60s was his rendition of "A Change Is Going To Come", which reportedly caused grown men to cry. Since Shepherd was in the Hawkins / Hawks circle beginning in the late '50s, it seems certain that he would've guested onstage with them more than once over the years, and would likely have sung his big number. And that made me wonder if "Moondog Matinee" is not so much a bunch of songs that our guys sang on Yonge Street, but a bunch of songs that they played on Yonge Street behind guest singers. As far as I know there aren't tapes of our guys singing most of the Moondog Matinee songs themselves; but surely a number of those chestnuts would've been sung by the numerous local guests at their Saturday matinee shows - Eugene Smith, John Finley, David Clayton Thomas, Robbie Lane, Zeke Shepherd ...


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Posted by:

Peter V

BTW, while googling Johnny Restivo, I discovered that Jerry Landid (aka Paul Simon) played guitar on both tracks back in 1959.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Dave Mason

I dusted off Alone together last week. It may be heresy, but i like it as much as any Traffic album.File under seriously under-rated.

In a busy Record fair day on Saturday I picked up "The Shape I'm In" in the "RCA Golden Grooves" 45 rpm single series. I was after the other side, Ya Ya, and interested in that of the 30 or so singles RCA did in the Golden Grooves series, Johnny Restivo is the most obscure by a mile. While he may be obscure. I'd bet the song would have been known to the Hawks. The song "The Shape I'm In" has no musical or lyrical similarity except the title.


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Posted by:

David P.

Subject: Albums Revisited

Before the merger, XM radio taped an excellent series called "Then Again, Live". The programs featured artists recreating classic albums live in the XM studio. The entire albums were played in their original sequence, with added commentaries from the artists discussing how the material was created. Some of the highlights of this series included the Allman Brothers Band's "Eat A Peach", Jethro Tull's "Aqualung" and Dave Mason's "Alone Together".


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Does Van have new managment? He seems to really be getting out into the public eye? For a guy who comes off grumpy and somewhat reclusive, he's really getting quite visible of late.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Peter - sorry... misread your post: Jeffo

If it were up to me, you, Westcoaster, me, Northern Boy Kevin J and Al Edge would be Mt Rushmore, rather than that bunch of second rate mediocrities it currently is (I'd probably find room for steve as well ...)

Of course, Garth, Levon, Robbie, Rick and Richard work just as nicely...


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Posted by:

Friend0

Dlew, Whatever you are inhaling, it should be illegal.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Healing game is the "recent" Van CD I'd recommend first to anyone (it's not THAT recent). After six weeks of two shows a night, it took me a few years to get back into Tom Jones, but, yes, I do.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: And thanks, Peter

I'm not as knowledgable on Van as I'd like to be, so I might try and track down the versions you mentioned. Have you heard the Tom Jones Version? Do you like it?


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Posted by:

Jean

Subject: Late Night With Jimmy Fallon

Van Morrison is one of tonight's guests.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Norm: you can't stop

Not at least till they've added you to mt rushmore


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods of NY

Subject: The West Coast is shifting --Norm's fault

NORM- You're in too good a condition to break down. That, along with your stubborn streak, probably means you'll live to be 100. Besides, only the good die young, which is yet another thing you've got going for you.

Do all of your fans know that you always open and close the car door for Susan? A perfect gentleman....I'd love to know what skeletons you've got in your closet. SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY!!! (But you can call me up and scream at me whenever you want.)


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Posted by:

Charlie Y

Subject: Phoebe Snow

Bob: I watched the excellent feature about Phoebe Snow (born Phoebe Laub) on the CBS SUNDAY MORNING show this morning. Ms. Snow, of course, has various connections to The Band.


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Posted by:

Jonh D

Location: USA
Web: My link

Subject: the other post

hahaha. omg.. I'm almost fell of the chair. godo one.


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Posted by:

bob w.

A friend just emailed to say CBS Sunday Morning will be doing a segment on Van Morrison this coming Sunday 3/8.

Sorry to learn of the passing of radio icon Paul Harvey.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Norm

Good luck in your new home. I'm looking forward to buying a copy of that CD. Lots of changes in your life. I hope they all go well. When are you going to make an honest woman of that lady? :-D


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Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: When in Doubt Scream & Shout - Run in Cirlces all About

Northern Buoy......Nope it won't be ready, hoping to try to get the last song done while we're down there at that time. Then I have to send it away to be mastered, and send the application form to CMRRA for the rights to use the songs that aren't Eddy's. Apparently the guy in Trana told me that takes about six weeks. Then get the acctual CD'S made and packaged. I'm tired just thinkin' about it.

See, I overloaded myself for the last couple years. New engine in tug, rebuild work on barge, renovations to house. Now I'm moving.....I HATE MOVING! Whose gawd damn idea was that anyway??? And all the while working....running up and down this coast.

Well I had to get all this shit done while I'm young and healthy see. When I get old, I'm gonna be a wreck, and all I'll be able to do is sit in a rocking chair, phone Lars and try to yell at him on the phone. So I got to have enough saved up to eat and take a taxi to the doctor all the time, to keep me a live enjoying a life of misery, 'cause I'm too old and fucked up to be of any value.

Well I got to finish loading my truck right now, and go and take possession of my new house tomorrow. There we will have a much better medical facility, some desent places to shop, better weather, a beautiful view and some old buddies to play some music with.

What we are going to do, April 3, is get a room at the Surrey Inn, leave the vehicle there and take a taxi down to the legion. That way if we have a couple of beer, there is no worry of gettin' throwed into the crowbar hotel. See yuh later.


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Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Norbert and Lars

Norbert and Lars, what beautiful posts. They touched my heart. My link is to the song The Dutchman. It came to mind as I was reading your post Norbert. It always gets me a little "misty" when I hear it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sometimes we Cry

There's also a fine solo version on "The Healing Game". Bass players will especially enjoy the introduction on bass by David Hayes. Vocal support is quietly brilliant and (from memory) by Brian Kennedy. The solo one is far more reflective and gentle until right at the end.

The version with Tom Jones is also great, and I've seen Van Morrison do this duet arrangement with Chris Farlowe live a couple of times, which was spectacular.


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Posted by:

Northern Nutjob

Thanks J. She's pain-free and recovering well from a mild to moderate stroke. NB


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Posted by:

Ilkka

Location: Nordic countries

Subject: Norbert's post

Thanks for the post, Norbert. Made me think about good ol' innocent gb times. You used to send me mails like that for almost ten years ago. Some people did intrude our emails and posted and printed them in paper - slightly modified - and posted them here and there and everywhere. It made me sick and tired but also involved in Internet security. So, it had some positive results, after all! - Thank's Lars for commenting Norbert's post. "Knowing" the man I believe he appreciated it.


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Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Obscure Van Songs

It's not 'obscure', insofar as the record sold in the squizillions, but on Tom Jones' Reload album, Van and tom do a brilliant song called 'sometimes we cry', which includes the lyrics:

Before they put me in a jacket

And take me away

I'm not gonna fake it

Like Johnny Ray

In its totality, the song could be trite, but like the last track on 'Dirt Farmer', there's a real gravitas there...



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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Adding to the live sequence

Pink Floyd also performed Dark Side of the Moon this way, too.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: albums performed in sequence

Jethro Tull's Passion Play also, Pink Floyd's The Wall, and Roger Water's Pros And Cons of Hitchhiking and Radio KAOS.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp(Jeff0

Subject: Steve

: -) Want to see a small miracle? You keep typing like a cheerleader wearing your pink mumu, Norm and I will meet in Montreal, come to Bulwer and harmoniously kick your ass. :-)


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Music in sequence

CHARLIE- One album that comes to mind is Jethro Tull's "Thick As A Brick." If Tull ever performed that album in concert, they pretty much had to stay in sequence with the album since the album was one continuous song covering both sides of the record.

NORBERT- Your gardening friend is the same age that my father would have been if he had lived (he died in Dec of 2005). That generation was remarkable in the sense that many of them were born on a farm and grew up with the horse and buggy, yet during their lifetime they went through a depression and a world war which brought them into the space age and a man on the moon. Many of them knew many skills because jobs weren't so specialized as they are today. Gardening and baking were two of my father's favorite passtimes when he got older.

They were survivors without guilt, choosing to forget about the Depression and the friends they lost in WW2. They carry on and they live in their gardens and try to make something grow as long as they are able. Good men like that will surely go to heaven.


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Posted by:

G B-R

Subject: Best Poco Song

is "Make Me A Smile"

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