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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, March 2000

Below are the entries in the Band guestbook from March 2000.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 22:45:25 CEST 2000 from 209-23-38-4.ip.termserv.net (209.23.38.4)

Diamond Lil

Molly..I'm so sorry. If you need to talk, please e-mail me.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 21:56:27 CEST 2000 from (199.88.112.211)

Molly

From: too many tears

This has nothing to do with The Band, but I thought I'd share it anyway. A good friend of mine from school commited suicide last night. I only found out this morning, and broke out in tears. Really hard time for me right now, especially writing this at school right now. Rest in peace, Joel.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 21:28:29 CEST 2000 from du-tele3-057.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.57)

Peter Viney

Lil: wonderful story. Music heals.

Santana seems to come up in every conversation or TV viewing in this week. I guess they are number one in the UK finally, plus number 15 with a Best of collection. This is fair reward for years of honest graft and musicianship. It’s also good to know that great mature artists can hit the big time again. It set me pondering though. I wasn’t keen on the first couple of albums, while I loved Caravanserai and the work with John McLaughlin, but in my heart-of-hearts I have to say they were one of the worst live bands I ever saw. Well, not as bad as Screaming Lord Sutch, but pretty bad.Why?

I saw them at Bournemouth Winter Gardens in the late 70s.The hall was used for BBC live classical broadcasts through the 50s and 60s and 70s as it genuinely had "you can hear a pin drop on stage from the back corner" acoustics. It’s now empty, probably due for demolition while concerts are held in a newer, larger venue just down the road which has the acoustics of a supermarket loading bay. The trouble with good hall acoustics is you only get them by accident. The place was designed as an indoor bowling green, and transformed into a concert hall in the 1920s. No acoustic science experts, but it ended up near-perfect. Anyway, Santana used their full stadium set up and poured the volume in, so that the sound was a muddy, distorted, painful whirl. They sounded awful. In the same year Marvin Gaye sounded loud but perfectly balanced from the same stage, and a few days before Santana even Hot Chocolate got the correct measure of the hall. It’s all down to taking the soundcheck very seriously. Every hall is different. I suppose it’s due to incompetent roadies, but the lead artist should take a stroll themselves while the rest of the band blast it out. It was hard to believe that none of them knew they sounded crap. There are venues where anyone struggles for a good sound – the points about poor quality on the Band’s Royal Albert Rags tape are down to poor recording equipment, but no one ever sounds good at the Albert Hall. (Don’t forget that Live 66 wasn’t actually the Albert Hall, it was Manchester Free Trade Hall).


Posted on Fri Mar 31 19:53:02 CEST 2000 from (204.120.54.1)

JCF

From: New York

I have some not so good news that may have been reported elsewhere on the site. I called up Tribeca Blues to learn more about the upcoming Barnburners show and was told that it is canceled, but will be rescheduled for a date in the near future. I know no more than this.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 17:59:58 CEST 2000 from (208.218.212.225)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Got up early this morning and was listening to my German import vinyl copy of "Rock of Ages" over a cup of strong coffee. What a way to start the day--crank up "Get Up Jake" full blast! And lo & behold now I know who's voice that was in the audience.

Ms. Lil: thanks for sharing your story. Tonight, when my friend Steve & I are playing "The Weight" at the cantina I'll remember the inspiration and have a smile on my face. "...who sent me here with her regards for everyone."


Posted on Fri Mar 31 16:34:37 CEST 2000 from gateway.llgm.com (209.125.166.250)

medicine hat

From: pittsburgh (still)

me again. i was so excited to read ivor's account, that i neglected to scroll down before posting. indeed lil, your posting is quite beautiful. i had a great aunt who suffered from alzheimers, and the doctors told me that the two things which seem to remain with victims longest are childhood memories and music. for some unknown reason, music stirs the memory and calms the soul, as borne out by your lovely story. kind of reminds me how garth's words about the healing properties of music are right on the money. peace.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 16:22:01 CEST 2000 from gateway.llgm.com (209.125.166.250)

medicine hat

From: pittsburgh

ivor -- the mystery is revealed!!! i always wondered who that lucky guy was. it's priceless, and _so_ new york ("foah puhcent paaantomoime!") it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance. now, will the guy who yelled "break the box" right before caledonia mission please reveal himself? peace.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 16:18:02 CEST 2000 from du59-3.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.3.59)

Ilkka

From: the woods in Nordic Countries, Europe
Home page

1.) Diamond Lil, thank you for sharing the story. God bless you and your father. Your invisible friends in gb have you in their minds.
2.) Lars-Goran died last year in the age of 56. He lived in a small town in the woods of Southern Sweden. He had 100.000 vinyl records, 50.000 of them were 98 rpms. A Swedish radio reporter is taking care of that unique collection now. It is open for serious journalists/scientists/record companies. Contact Lars Eldeman, Swedish Broadcasting Company.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 09:59:34 CEST 2000 from pool0775.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (209.178.155.10)

ivor dawson

hi friends,it's great to discover that this site exists. bravo! I recently caught up with artie traum playing in South Pasadena. you may know that artie and his brother Happy opened many a Band concert in and around new york years back. At any rate, mr. traum remembered mr.danko to have been the warmest and most personable of the group and will miss him greatly. on a lighter note, many of you have heard me on the Rock of Ages album recorded live on new years eve '71-72 at the old academy of music in nyc. i'm calling out a request for "4% pantomine" in a around "wake up jake." I bought tickets for the whole gang to see the Band only to find out that they made other plans. I went anyway, sold the tix and had the time of my life with strangers! dylan came out and joined the Band - they did "like a rollin' stone" and brought down the house. this one of many fond memories i have of the greatest band of all! chao for now. id


Posted on Fri Mar 31 05:35:09 CEST 2000 from pppt03-177.ght.iadfw.net (207.136.9.177)

Brent S.

From: Dallas, Tx

Daimond Lil: I'm new to this page but so far I've read alot of great stories. The story about your father is very touching. My dad and I have grown a closer relationship through music (we saw CSNY in Dallas with my mom, brother, and my girlfriend). It was probably the first show they'd been to in years, but I asked them to come because it was my birthday and I thought they would enjoy it...and they did(except for being a bit loud for them)! Anyway, I'm always happy to see music touching peoples lives (I want to be a songwriter) and I hope I can do the same, because it's done so much for me. On a different note: were any copies of 'Eat the Document' or the Band at Woodstock '69 ever released? I'm also interested in some of the pre-Band stuff like RH & the Hawks singles. By the way, 'The Weight' just came on my stereo. I love this song! Goodnight all.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 04:45:40 CEST 2000 from proxy1-external.avnl1.nj.home.com (24.4.252.66)

Brien Sz

From: NJ

Diamond Lil: Those are the subtle strokes on the canvas that make masterpieces.

Thanks for sharing.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 03:56:36 CEST 2000 from alb1-as5200-29-29.termserv.net (208.20.67.29)

Diamond Lil

Sitting here thinking about my parents recent visit to crazyville, and thought I'd share something with you.

My dad has Alzheimers, advancing very rapidly. He's 72, the sweetest man you'd ever want to meet, but he's forgotten alot of basic things like where he is and who he's with. I only see the folks twice a year or so since they live far away, so I was very distraught at how 'lost' my dad appeared to be. And then...we were sitting around talking, and I put on 'Music from Big Pink'. "The Weight" came on..and my dad got this look on his face and started to sing! He _remembered_ it..and made a comment about how he used to hear it coming from my room when I was younger. It was a wonderful moment for me. I guess it just goes to show that no matter what, the music is never forgotten.

Thanks for listening. Have a good night everyone.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 02:33:51 CEST 2000 from spider-th064.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.74)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

pehr-When Sinead was infamously(and rudely, thoughtlessly, cruelly, take your pick they all apply IMHO) booed off the stage at Bobfest KK kind of came to her rescue. With one arm around her shoulders(her face was almost in his armpit which must have been even further traumatizing} he can very clearly be heard to say those words to her. I've seen and read that expression used a # of times since and always credited KK with it(he is one of my musical and cultural hero's, despite a few really bad movie choices). But looks like he nicked it off of the historical archives. Thanks for the info.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 02:07:43 CEST 2000 from spider-th074.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.79)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

I once had a vinyl copy of a Secret Policeman's Other Ball(there were at least 2 or 3 volumes) that had Pete Townsend doing a solo acoustic version of Won't Get Fooled Again. It was a beautiful and, for the time(very early 80's?) unique version. Now everyone does unplugged stuff and though it is often very nice it is surely no longer unique.


Posted on Fri Mar 31 01:26:40 CEST 2000 from spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.159)

Bob

From: Vermont

I've been listening to a lot of the Clancy Brothers lately, which brings up their performance at Bobfest in 1993 when they played, "When the Ship Comes In," with Robbie O'Connell. Wonderful song. Had a chance to see Bobby Clancy, his son, Finbarr and Eddie Dillon on March 15. Talked to them in a pub after about Bobfest. Very happy people. A great Clancy Cd in the 1990s--Older, but no wiser. If you enjoy the Irish spirit (Hank), pick it up. Great folk music. Well, good day. Bob


Posted on Thu Mar 30 23:20:20 CEST 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

From: Toronto

The movie of "The Secret Policeman's Ball" is also most enjoyable, or at least was the one time I saw it (in Melbourne in '82). Besides Clapton and Beck, you also get Sting, Phil Collins and Bob Geldof doing very moving, unadorned versions of their big songs. Best of all, you get to laugh a lot. My favourite bit was the "trapeze" "artists".


Posted on Thu Mar 30 23:03:00 CEST 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: texas

hey bashful, D.L.T.B.G.Y.D. is what the P.O.W's used to say about the low down things guards would do to taunt and humiliate them, but I suppose that goes back hundred, thousands of years. But if Kris Kristofferson said it at the Dylan tribute I'll drink to that too. Anyway, it's good to see Lil and Hank back today and in good humor.

I used to have a great old scratchy bootleg of the Band back in the 70's that was notable because evidently the lights were turned on in the middle of the show. You can here the stage manager or someone being real polite, asking to please turn the lights off. Then out of nowhere Levon says rather abruptly, "Turn 'em godamn lights off!!!! (as only he can)- the lights go off like they were shot out and the crowd goes nuts and they kick into high gear. which show was that, anyone remember? Hollywood Bowl?

Here's to my favorite band, and all you fellow fans. let's hang in there together and keep on rockin!


Posted on Thu Mar 30 22:53:11 CEST 2000 from proxy-543.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.133)

Bob Wyman

From: Colorado
Home page

Hi everyone, As I promised I have posted another picture of Rick and myself on my homepage. I have only one more which I will post later. A lot of you have written to thank me for sharing these and I can only say I am very glad I am able to do so! Peace, Bob


Posted on Thu Mar 30 22:42:36 CEST 2000 from du-tele3-013.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.13)

Peter Viney

David: thanks for telling us about the version of "Further on up the road" on "The Secret Policeman’s other Ball" which I have somewhere on cassette but have not listened to in years. I’d forgotten all about this and will have to dig it out and check it out. It’s a comedy show basically. Anyone remember Derek And Clive Live? Comedy albums have been replaced by comedy videos, I guess. It’s hard to believe that hours were spent listening to Monty Python, Derek & Clive and Jasper Carrott on albums rather than videos.

After recent posts, I had a day with "Let it Rock". What a truly fine version of "The Weight." I assume that unlike the original Band’s versions of this, Garth is on organ and Richard Bell on piano. How often do we have to be reminded that no one ever made the bass guitar sound as free, relaxed and downright cheerful as Rick Danko?


Posted on Thu Mar 30 21:08:04 CEST 2000 from spider-wl063.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.48)

Butch

the Barn Burners were burnin,, sit-in guest Jimmy Vivino was GRRREAT, as usual,,, scott healy ( also from the Conan show band ) played a couple on Marty's piano,, Marty was more comfy than before,,, & it was a TRIUMPHANT NIGHT !!!! As usual,, the Barn Burners were SOOOO TIGHT !!!! Chris & Frankie & Pat,, are perfect for levon,,,they got a groove,, capital G ,,, & miss Amy is really getting her chops down,, stage presence is great, powerful,, a chip off the ol redneck,, ,,,, BLUES,,,BLUES,,,BLUES !!!!!! GET EM,,, they be good fer ya' We play The Towne Crier in Pawling NY,,,Friday night,, Then, Levon & I are off to a Hubert Sumlin recording session ( keith richards co-producing ) bobby margolin,, & some brit guitar player,, eric something,,, paul ascher,,, wowowowowow,,,, DONT FORGET,, for people we still like,, APRIL 13th NYC, TRIBECA BLUES then, up to Canada to record w/The Hawk,,, & richard bell, too,, So, the boss is busy,, catch him when & where ya can,, he's never played better,,, or had more fun,,, than right now,,,, we had folks flying in from CHICAGO, for last nights show,, ( THANKS FOLKS,,, ya'll made us hungry talkin bout red beans & rice, ) so if they can come out ,,,,,all the way from Chi-town,,, WHERE ARE YOU ????? see ya down the road,,, butch


Posted on Thu Mar 30 18:22:31 CEST 2000 from (208.218.212.225)

David Powell

From: Georgia

"The Blues Had A Baby And They Named It Rock & Roll"--Muddy Waters

Martha and tangobeat previously mentioned the "Sebastopol" tuning adopted by Southern bluesmen. This tuning, generally an open D, was used quite effectively by Blind Willie McTell. An open tuning allows the guitarist the ability to fret and/or use a slide to make the strings "sing" in glissando rather than just in single notes. In the hands of Blind Willie, who used a twelve string, this sounded like a chorus singing behind him on songs such as "Savannah Mama" and "Travelin' Blues."

It's only fitting to pay tribute today to Eric Clapton on his birthday. Although he's travelled down many musical paths in his career, he remains a blueman at heart. He's always taken the time to not only cover classic blues material, but to honor and keep the flame burning for the older bluemen he followed. Last year Polydor released a two disc Eric Clapton "Blues" compilation featuring one CD of studio cuts and the other containing live recordings. On the live disc is a smoking 8 1/2 minute version of "Further On Up The Road" that Eric & his band recorded in concert with Freddie King in Dallas, just a week & a half before The Last Waltz. Sadly, Freddie passed away shortly after this recording. Like the other blues Kings, Albert & B.B. he influenced the playing of Clapton and countless other younger guitarists, and on this recording you can hear him driving Eric to soaring heights. On the last several minutes of the song they exchange licks at a driving pace in pure blues ecstasy.

"Further On Up The Road", one of Bobby Blue Bland's signature tunes, was written by Joe Medwick Veasey and Don D. Robey. In addition to the great versions that he recorded with the Band at The Last Waltz and most recently with Robbie Robertson at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Ceremony, Clapton performed a scorching version with Jeff Beck in 1981 at an Amnesty International benefit concert in London. The always amazing Mr. Beck, Clapton's one-time Yardbird replacement, helped Slowhand take this song into another stratocastersphere. Unfortunately, this version included on an album entitled "The Secret Policeman's Other Ball", to my knowledge is not currently available on CD in the U.S.


Posted on Thu Mar 30 17:21:04 CEST 2000 from mail.sevencounties.org (209.149.141.194)

Knockin' Lost John

From: The Hoosier State
Home page

Hello band fans: To Lil. I've not been on here long and I don't know you personally, but just wanted to say Hi! to help you forget about the nasty person who sent you that horrible email. I enjoy reading what you have to say on the guestbook about Rick and Levon and the gang and whatever else you've got to say. Some people get their kicks out of shocking or hurting other people, and do not understand the importance of our personal connections with the recording artists we admire. They have no music in their own souls. Screw 'em!


Posted on Thu Mar 30 07:34:07 CEST 2000 from spider-tr041.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.191)

Henry

From: Sunny Sonoma California

Hi everyone. Thank you, Jan, for having me as your guest on the best website on the net. I love The Band, always have, always will. Even though I didn`t know Rick or Richard personally, I miss them. I`m very lucky to have their music on CD`s and videos that I can enjoy for the rest of my life. In response to Kevin K looking for the Original Basement Tapes Vol 1-5, Flashpoint Music in Seattle has them. They also have The Band Woodstock 1994 Video. I don`t know if they have a website but if you write to them they will send you a catalog and order form. Flashpoint Music PO Box 31983 Seattle, Wa 98103 ...Long Live THE BAND


Posted on Thu Mar 30 04:56:28 CEST 2000 from user-33qtaai.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.169.82)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Hank, the SCTV/Rock Concert with Abbott and Costello has already been discussed here. But thanks for the mention. Also, I have been listening to The Flaming Lips' latest and find it most appealing. I can't, however, figure out why.


Posted on Thu Mar 30 02:45:56 CEST 2000 from spider-wn032.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.162)

lazybones

From: saskatchewan

yeah I know what alias is talkin about. Regarding RR, that is. Mm-hmm. Still got that look too.


Posted on Thu Mar 30 02:11:03 CEST 2000 from cache1.cache.iol.ie (194.125.2.129)

Hank Wedel

From: The Streets of Rome filled with Rubble
Home page

Well, reading the most recent posts I noticed there's a "Macy Gray and how cool her stuff is but what's her connection to "The Band" type of debate goin' on......she's really great, by the way.........but I wuz drivin' home tonight listenin' to the Radio and I heard this song that went like "driftwood, breaking up into pieces, floating out to sea........." It was a great piece of music, modern, well mixed, had'nt heard it before.......but I loved it..........The DJ said it was "Travis"......"Why does it always Rain on Me" Travis (um, 'cos your from Scotland, maybe?)........Anyway, it sounded great just like that Rain song.....and I was happy to hear they had more than one great song.......now, I'm pretty sure they've got a few more.............Just like The Band, in fact!!!!!!!!! But the comparison does'nt end there.....I seem to recall reading on these pages that Travis cover "The Weight".....and we all know that 'Driftwood' is a sacred word in The Bands Canon (Cannon? BaBOOM!!!!!!)......I could go on, y'know.....but I won't.........Here's something.......In 1977, I was 14 and well into "The Basement Tapes" and "Big Pink"........1977 was also the year I heard " A Whiter Shade of Pale" for the first time, properly, and I taped it off the radio........I thought it was "The Band" for weeks until someone said it was "Procul Harum" >>>>>>Oh well just thought I'd share that with you.......Good night........Sleep Well........and pleasant freaky dreams..............HANK PS Howsabout this? "Home Taping DID'NT Kill Music and NO ONE really cared if was illegal or not". Any you folks remember that thing they used to print on album dust jackets?..........sure you do...........people are STILL making music and Record companies are STILL making money.............OK .........I'll leave now ...........G' nite!!!!!!!


Posted on Wed Mar 29 23:52:21 CEST 2000 from spider-tr064.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.204)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

A Cher/Band connection? Who would have thunk it? Ronnie Hawkins Let it Rock video and CD can be purchaced via his website.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 23:36:28 CEST 2000 from (207.103.180.10)

Harry B

From: Bucks County, Pennsylvania, USA, Earth

Re: Jerry Lee Lewis & The Band connection - check out "Let It Rock" (reviewed by me several years ago when found in a video store). It is the video and audio record of Ronnie Hawkin's 60th "birfday" and features performances by The Band, The Killer himself, Carl Perkins, and, of course, Rompin' Ronnie. As far as all this talk about "da blues" - read Robert Palmers' tome "Deep Blues." All will be revealed... As for the a..hole with the cute ideas about Rick Danko - he'll get his someday, Diamond Lil.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 22:52:20 CEST 2000 from 199.mercerville-28-29rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.151.199)

carmen

From: pa

I guess I don't see what Beth and Alias are getting at.

I myself could never figure out what RR and Rick are smoking in the "Old time Religion" segment. It has the coloring of a cigar, the size of a cigarette, however it's being treated like a joint. Were they the first to discover the "philly blunt"?


Posted on Wed Mar 29 22:21:03 CEST 2000 from wbk2.bjc.psu.edu (128.118.120.165)

Kevin K

From: PA

I'm looking to buy the 5CD Genuine Basement Tapes, can anyone point me in the right direction?


Posted on Wed Mar 29 22:12:05 CEST 2000 from alb3-as5200-27-123.termserv.net (208.20.67.123)

Diamond Lil

Thank you to the 19 people whose e-mails I just came home to...reminding me that Levon's show is Friday, not Saturday. Actually, I knew that...says so right on the ticket...but for some reason I kept thinking the 31st was Saturday. Glad you guys mailed. I would've been very disappointed to get there Saturday night and find that my middle-aged memory is not serving me all that well...

Brown-Eyed Johnny: Just want to say hello to you and Lori. Hope all is well.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 20:31:21 CEST 2000 from revlukup.clr.com (164.57.254.206)

Brown-Eyed Johnny

From: Where's the Bootleg?

I've just thumbed through the Band/Dylan-related pages in the recently published "The Operator: David Geffen Builds, Buys and Sells the New Hollywood," by Tom King. There's a description of Geffen's lavish 31st birthday party, which came on the heels of completion of the 1974 Dylan/Band tour. Cher began the musical festivities by singing "Happy Birthday" and then going into "All I Really Want to Do," the latter with instrumental backing by the Band and vocal harmony by Dylan. Cher and Rick Danko followed with "Mockingbird," and Dylan ended with "Mr. Tambourine Man." It was not mentioned whether the Band and/or Dylan aided on "Birthday," "Mockingbird" and/or "Tambourine Man."


Posted on Wed Mar 29 20:17:42 CEST 2000 from (204.120.54.1)

JCF

From: new york

I bought Rock of ages on Monday (it cost less than $10!). I think that the addition of horns complements some songs, like Stage Fright and The night they drove old dixie down, better than it does with others (i.e. Unfaithful servant, Caledonia Mission). I notcied that Dont Do it is less than two minutes on the last waltz, and much longer on Rock of ages. Why did they cut the perfromance short on the former occasion. Were they just exhausted?


Posted on Wed Mar 29 20:10:53 CEST 2000 from spider-tj074.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.209)

Kevin T.

From: Pittsburgh,Pa. I

I'm looking for folks who may want to trade copies of boots.I'm not well connected for finding these and only just found out about Crossing the Great Divide. This sounds like adamn fine collection. Contact me at cicpgh.com thanks.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 20:06:31 CEST 2000 from cache1.cache.iol.ie (194.125.2.129)

Hank wedel

From: Cork city, Ireland
Home page

Awright Folks!! I'm back from my Northern European Tour where I played "Stagefright', "It Makes No Difference", "Twilight" and 'Small Town Talk' almost every night in Ricks memory (not to mention "The Weight" and "Dixie" most nights) and Ah'm ready to get back into the fray here and debate "The Band" and sundry related topics........good to see y'all are still at it and groovin' on........ By The way, Pat Brennan.... Who are NOT The Rolling Stones!!!! The Who are ANOTHER English band altogether!!!!!! Next thing you'll be asking Whats on Second Idunno.....The Beatles are on third........I give up ,,,,,,,,,see y'all later..............HANK The Who are ANOTHER English band altogether


Posted on Wed Mar 29 19:45:51 CEST 2000 from spider-tj064.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.204)

Beth R.

From: Chicago suburbs

Alias! Regarding your Last Waltz moment with RR; the beauty is that I don't have to rewatch it. I knew EXACTLY what moment you meant because it's burned into my memory!! :)(What good taste you have!)--Beth


Posted on Wed Mar 29 17:36:08 CEST 2000 from (208.218.212.225)

David Powell

From: Georgia

I would have to say that Macy Gray is one of the bright spots on the current music horizon. It's nice to see someone blend different styles and still come up with their own unique perspective. By the way, she's not the only one who has recently covered Melanie's "Brand New Key." The lovely Deana Carter, Fred Carter Jr.'s daughter, also did a cover of the song on her second album, "Everything's Gonna Be Alright."


Posted on Wed Mar 29 16:44:49 CEST 2000 from ppp760.on.bellglobal.com (206.172.238.184)

Snockgrass

Hey anybody out there like Jerry Lee Lewis? I'm listening to 'The Session', an early seventies London recording with some heavy duty support from Alvin Lee, Albert Lee, Peter Frampton, and especially Rory Gallagher. Can't think of much of a Band connection. Did the Band play any Jerry Lee tunes? As the Hawks? Maybe someone out there would know.

I can't help thinking Macy Gray sounds like Eartha Kitt, but I'll keep listening. Peace love and music to all you folks out there.

Snockgrass


Posted on Wed Mar 29 16:44:19 CEST 2000 from ns1.schuster.com (199.105.252.66)

Charlie Young

From: On the Road in the Beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains of Old Virginny

Fans of The Band: please don't fall for shysters on eBay when you can trade for much of the same material without supporting slimy bootleggers ("hey buddy would you like to buy a watch real cheap?") Go to www.tapetradernetwork.com and you will find a few dozen tape traders listed under The Band right now. My favorite early tape is the 5/20/71 audience tape from Frankfurt, West Germany--just weeks before I attended my first concert by The Band in Columbia, Maryland (anyone have a tape of that one?). The recording is far from soundboard quality, but the performance is a classic. Garth and Robbie were simply on fire and the incredibly polite German audience was with them all the way. I wish some smart record company could track down the master tape of that show and put out a cleaned-up CD version. It's better than the Watkin's Glen release as it is. Happy trading...


Posted on Wed Mar 29 16:18:41 CEST 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

From: MD today, Maine none too soon

One possible Band-Macy Gray link. Perhaps others will know for sure, but did not Macy develop her songs in the same LA after hours spot as the Jakob Dylan and the Wallflowers?


Posted on Wed Mar 29 13:52:58 CEST 2000 from alb2-as5200-26-74.termserv.net (208.20.67.74)

Lil again

Geez..the days seem to be getting away from me here. This Saturday brings us Levon at The Towne Crier in Pawling, NY! Anyone else going? Last time I was there was to see Rick with an ex-friend...so I think it's going to bring back alot of bittersweet memories for me...but am very much looking forward to it just the same.

No Macy Gray connection here what-so-ever. I'm getting better :-)


Posted on Wed Mar 29 13:35:40 CEST 2000 from alb2-as5200-26-74.termserv.net (208.20.67.74)

Diamond Lil

Peter Viney: Thanks for the post about Macy Gray. She's opening for Santana here over the summer, and I'm very much looking forward to it. I think she has an amazing voice myself, and there's something so very likeable about her. How tall is she anyway? I mean wow... :-)

No Band connection here what-so-ever, but of course, that's not a first for me. Just making the attempt to jump back into discussion here I guess, so either scroll on by or bear with me. Thanks.

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan :-)


Posted on Wed Mar 29 13:08:37 CEST 2000 from levon.hiof.no (158.36.51.54)

jh

From: Norway

Radio Woodstock had a technical problem and did not webcast the gig with Jim Weider & co. from Joyous Lake last weekend. It was a great show anyway, but they've offered Weider to do it again from a controlled studio. We'll keep you updated.

Big Foot was just released in Germany and in about 2 weeks it comes out in Norway and other parts of Europe.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 10:46:59 CEST 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

Hey Lil... don't let them get you down... most people here love you, you know... and I'm beginning to wonder how wise it is to leave our correct email-addresses in here...


Posted on Wed Mar 29 05:58:27 CEST 2000 from spider-tn042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.62)

Pacific46

From: SF Bay Area

Amanda, Dr. John's book is one of my favorites. Talk about culture shock! It was fascinating to be brought into his bizarre and mystical world in underground New Orleans. Diamon Lil, I'm so sorry some very unhealthy person hurt you. That person's life must be hell. Focus on all the cool, loving people instead. And to all, I just saw "Boys Don't Cry." Whew! Hillary Swank deserved an Oscar 20 ft. tall for her performance. Our society has such a long way to go, but recognition of such a role and subject matter is bound to influence many of us and make us more compassionate and open-minded. Love, peace and flowers to all.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 05:46:45 CEST 2000 from user-33qt8g2.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.162.2)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Royal Albert Rags is typical of the audience boots of the day. We're so used to soundboards and DAT/Nac combo's that we forget that most of these early boots were made by people with cumbersome cassette decks and one mic. I'm trying to think what the best early boot of the Band is: Hollywood Bowl? Maybe. Royal Albert Rags is superior to Live Band and other such tapes from the late 60's and early 70's. Really it's not until 73 with Watkins Glen and Roosevelt Stadium that soundboards come into play. BTW, with a fair ammount of tweaking, Rags sounds okay. The songlist, however, is superb.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 04:35:46 CEST 2000 from pool-209-138-177-176.ipls.grid.net (209.138.177.176)

Bobby Jones

From: Columbus

Acadian Ruby - That was a CD-R copy on E-Bay. Someone from Boston is banging out copies. There was one on there 2 weeks ago. The sound is not very good. Sounds like it was recorded in a hallway outside the concert Hall.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 04:21:26 CEST 2000 from spider-tr042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.192)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

pehr-couldn't agree with you more. Think peace, I always say. "Don't let the bastards get you down!" KK at the Dylan tribute many years ago, right?


Posted on Wed Mar 29 03:31:11 CEST 2000 from (203.96.152.187)

Amanda

From: New Zealand
Home page

I've gradually been working my way through the guestbook archives & (without wanting to sound too gushingly sycophantic:)) I have to say I've been impressed by the depth of knowledge of many of the contributors to this forum...Although all this expansion of my knowledge & tastes has resulted in me spending way too much on new cds so maybe it has been a mixed blessing!

Anyway...a book I thought it might be worth recommending to newer Band fans (like myself) is Mac Rebbenack's "Under a Hoo Doo Moon. The Life of Dr John the night tripper" (available @ Amazon.com). I think anyone who enjoyed "This wheels on fire" would get a lot out of reading this book. The narrative style is similar; lots of good anecdotes about life as a hard living musician etc. The Band are mentioned in it a couple of times too.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 01:55:11 CEST 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

Sorry to hear about the passing of Ian Dury. His records gave me alot of enjoyment, esp. "Do it Yourself". great stuff. Thanks,Peter, for letting us know also about Macy Gray. I'll keep an eye peeled for any appearences here.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 00:51:51 CEST 2000 from spider-ti011.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.176)

acadianruby

I would like to thank Jon for easing the pain. I have bids on five items right now, so if you are one of the people bidding with me perhaps we can make copies for each other if we win. Also, want to say to Peter, a dear friend of mine bought me the tape of Maci for my car while we were riding up to New Hampshire to see The Honky Tonk Gurus 2 weekends ago. I really got into it. I surprised myself. But still have to say the Gurus bring it home for me. They just get better and better if that is possible. For anyone who has not been to see them yet please do yourself a great favor and make the effort.


Posted on Wed Mar 29 00:03:57 CEST 2000 from sjiassoc16.erols.com (208.58.12.144)

Jon Lyness

From: New York City

Just so you don't feel overly disappointed, acadianruby: the sound on the Royal Albert Rags disk is fair at best. I listened to it over headphones a few months ago and it was a bit of a letdown; not unlistenable (maybe fiddling with the graphic equalizer helps?), but still on the muddy side. I passed it up at $15 (and believe me, I don't pass up a lot of Band discs!). Peace, Jon


Posted on Wed Mar 29 00:00:07 CEST 2000 from du-tele3-048.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.48)

Peter Viney

Macy Gray live, (last night): not one to miss. She was 30 minutes late on stage, and I’d sat through half an hour of her DJ doing things with records that I would never permit with my precious Band albums BEFORE that final 30 minute wait. Hasn’t anyone told these guys not to touch the playing surface and how easy it is to scratch a vinyl record! He must have scratched all the records he played. I don’t think he was even keeping them in the sleeves, and there was no sign of a dust-bug or any other cleaner. Static didn’t worry him either. Tut tut.

Seriously, what a great performer Macy Gray is! Eleven-piece band too. She reminds me of James Brown or Sly Stone rather than any female soul singer I’ve seen, and even does the full collapse on stage. The cover versions are fascinating – Brand New Key (oh, yes, the Melanie song), Que Sera Sera (Sly style) and With A Little Help from My Friends. The raps in between were strictly parental guidance required. Stagecraft good, lighting – definitive. During a ten minute band workout (possibly a theoretical intro to the first encore) we got guitar played with the teeth, leading into a riff suspiciously close to "Third Stone From The Sun." The ending was novel – the band left stage one at a time until all we had was the backing vocalists. Whatever, if she’s in your neighbourhood, don’t miss it. But expect to sit through a lot of repetitive dance music from her DJ first. Out of boredom, I began to watch the technique, and that has to be difficult to do. Wish I’d seen the technique in the late 60s when I was spinning Tamla-Motown at college dances.

Band connection? Dunno. Just good music.


Posted on Tue Mar 28 23:51:33 CEST 2000 from spider-ti011.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.176)

acadianruby

Well, besides wanting to just say hello to everyone on this fine page, I would also like to ask who the lucky winner was on ebay and bid me out at the last 2 minutes on The Band at the Royal Albert Hall? I am so bummed for me but happy for you. I am new at this bidding thing not quick enough I guess."Don't do it...baby don't you do it...don't ya break my heart...please don't do it don't you break my heart"


Posted on Tue Mar 28 23:45:21 CEST 2000 from sdn-ar-002nyglenp331.dialsprint.net (168.191.118.109)

LAMONT DEPEW

From: CHATHAM NY

DID YOU CATCH JIM WEIDER AND THE HONKY TONK GURUS AT JOYOUS LAKE SATURDAY NIGHT THE 25TH? IF YOU DID'NT I FEEL FOR YOU! I CAN'T SAY I'VE SEEN A MORE ROCKIN' SHOW IN MY LIFE. (I'VE SEEN THIS BAND QUITE A FEW TIMES AS WELL AS COUNTLESS OTHERS)JIM PLAYED LIKE I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM PLAY BEFORE, LIKE HE'D NEVER GET TO PLAY AGAIN. HE'S IN MY OPINION THE MOST ENIGMATIC TELECASTER PLAYER ON THE SEEN TODAY. (I'M A BIG FAN OF ROY BUCHANNON,DANNY GATTON, ALBERT LEE, ALBERT COLLINS ET AL...)AND JIM STANDS WITH THE BEST OF THEM!!! RANDY PLAYED WITH THE INTENCITY OF A FREIGHT TRAIN (LOVE YA MAN)MALCOLM DROVE THE WHOLE THING HOME WITH A KILLER BASS, AND JEREMY PLAYS KEYS LIKE A MAN TWICE HIS AGE (GREAT JAZZ RIFFS AND THE SMOKINEST BARREL-HOUSE THIS SIDE OF JONNY JOHNSON). WE THOUROULY ENJOYED THE SHOW (THANKS FOR LETTING ME SING "RAIN" ALSO). KEEP ROCKIN' GOD BLESS YOU BOYS, YOU HAVE ALOTTA' HEART!!!! MONTY


Posted on Tue Mar 28 22:52:06 CEST 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: austin texas

it takes a real sick coward chump peanuthead to email sicko messages. very disturbing. I'm pretty fed up with alot of the sarcastic smart asses that show up here just to knock us and our favorite musicians down. to you all who know who you are, get a life, think of someone besides yourself, find some joy, and give a little love instead of crap. the quality of your life will improve like you wont believe.

"Dont let the bastards get you down."


Posted on Tue Mar 28 18:48:48 CEST 2000 from (137.187.144.172)

Jonathan Katz

From: Columbia, MD

In this political year its time to get out the vote - at least with regard to The Last Waltz (1978). As David Powell notes, Amazon.com says: "TLW on DVD is not yet released, but by signing on their site you will be voting for this release. Band fans: you've (ehem) voted effectively in the past for other things pertaining to the Band. Lets get going here. We need to let the studio know how many customers are waiting for this title!


Posted on Tue Mar 28 17:54:19 CEST 2000 from (208.218.212.225)

David Powell

From: Georgia

"The Last Waltz" is NOT available on DVD. It's listing on amazon.com's webpage is apparently some sort of marketing ploy. It is listed on the site with the following disclaimer: "NOT YET AVAILABLE: The studio is currently not producing this title on DVD but to be notified when it is available, enter your e-mail address at right. You'll also be voting for this release; we'll let the studio know how many customers are waiting for this title."


Posted on Tue Mar 28 15:48:28 CEST 2000 from 53.mercerville-28-29rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.151.53)

carmen

From: PA

D Lil, what you have to realize is that in life there are good people and then there are dicks!



Posted on Tue Mar 28 12:46:15 CEST 2000 from du-tele3-058.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.58)

Peter Viney

I was saddened this morning to read that Ian Dury had died. This has been a bad few months. Rest in peace.


Posted on Tue Mar 28 07:06:27 CEST 2000 from r-53.5.alltel.net (166.102.53.5)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

tangobeat: I am delighted to know about "Vastopol." I had no idea where the term "vaspool" came from.


Posted on Tue Mar 28 06:28:08 CEST 2000 from dial50.gtn.net (209.167.110.215)

About "Vaspool"

To MARTHA PAGE: Some Russian merchant marine sailors from the Black Sea, who sailed into the port of New Orleans at the turn of the century, played with a special open tuned guitar style that was quickly picked up by local musicians. The sailors mostly came from the Black Sea port of Sevastopol, in Crimea ( spelled Sebastopol in the west ). The "Vastopol" tuning style as it became known became popular for a time. As the style spread throughout the south the name degenerated so to speak. What your dad called "Vaspool" is a further diluted form of the name "Vastopol" which originated from Sevastopol. Now you know, if you didn't already :)


Posted on Tue Mar 28 05:45:28 CEST 2000 from spider-wc082.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.57)

Bayou Sam

From: New York

I just read Diamond Lils post and I can't beleive someone did such a thing. You know, I love going into the chatroom and occasionally a person comes in there who absolutely loves stirring up trouble. This person thrives on destroying a real nice time that a group of Band fans might be having. The prson who sent you that thing sounds like they have the same way of thinking. Why they enjoy doing this is beyond me, and they will totally get off on the message you've put on this guestbook. As hard as it is we have to just ignore and delete our butts off, and these troubled people will go away because they won't get what they want, which is to wreck the enjoyment of the rest of us. Let's try to drive these *&%^&** to a site where they can practice their bizzarre brand of humor with others that like it. It might not be easy but we can do it. It worked one nite in the chatroom. Put on a Band album and forget these fools.


Posted on Tue Mar 28 05:18:28 CEST 2000 from alb3-as5200-32-128.termserv.net (208.20.67.128)

Diamond Lil

Apologies to anyone who this doesn't concern.

To the cruel, shit-for-brains person who sent me the computer image of what Rick may look like now....you made me sick. Please do _not_ contact me again. In fact..get help. Alot of it. You are, without a doubt, _the_ lowest form of life and I will delete any more mails I may receive from you. Kicking a person who's down..hurts, you know? Grow up.

Sorry Jan..and everyone else who may be reading this. Am incredibly upset.


Posted on Tue Mar 28 05:05:13 CEST 2000 from pega2pp10.alltel.net (166.102.107.11)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

John: You are welcome. I loved the traveling bluesman story and thought of the exploits of Robert Johnson, who, by the way, wrote "Sweet Home Chicago," the blues song that RR and Clapton played first on the RRHFame show this year.

My husband just brought me a review from the "Music Notes" section of the 2000 Jan.-Feb. Oxford American--Thank God someone around here has time to read: "Poetry That Rocks and Whispers" by Geoffrey Himes reviews R.B. Morris' second album "Zeke and the Wheel." It is a great review that begins, "If Tom Waits had grown up on Appalachian hillbilly music instead of West coast jazz, and if Levon Helm had been a Beatnik writer instead of an r&b drummer, they might have sounded like R.B. Morris." (Morris was a published poet before he began his music career in "alternative country.") My favorite line: "He now sings his Dylanesque verses in a gravelly East Tennessee drawl, while musicians borrowed from admirers such as John Prine and Lucinda Williams churn behind him like The Band." Don't you just love the play on the word "Appalachian" and the visions of "dueling banjos" with the verb "churn"? I can see that Tennessee boy with his trusty dog by his side now.

The facing page has a review by John Lewis of "The Last Living Bluesman" (Shangri-La), a Will Roy Sanders album: "A Mississippi native, the sixty-seven-year-old plays his blues mired in funk. With the salt of the earth in his strings and the scratch of the plow in his voice, he crafts tunes that are genuine and haunting." You gotta love that Oxford American.


Posted on Tue Mar 28 03:27:03 CEST 2000 from trt-on63-121.netcom.ca (216.123.96.121)

John

From: Toronto

MARTHA PAGE:

I really enjoyed your story. Thank you very much for sharing.


Posted on Tue Mar 28 03:12:20 CEST 2000 from spider-ti022.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.182)

BOB

CALLING ALL BAND FANS! IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHERE 'THE BAND' MIGHT HAVE GONE, CATCH 'JIM WEIDER & THE HONKY TONK GURUS'. AFTER FIFTEEN YEARS OR SO AS LEAD GUITAR WITH THE BAND, JIM AND 'BAND' DRUMMER RANDY CIARLANTE ARE OUT THERE DOING SMOKIN' RENDITIONS OF BAND FAVORITES AND LOTSA THEIR OWN NEW MATERIAL. I SAW THEM PLAY TO A PACKED HOUSE AT THE JOYOUS LAKE, WOODSTOCK NY ON 3/25/00. GO BUY THEIR CD 'BIGFOOT' IMMEDIATELY AND CATCH 'EM LIVE SOON 'CAUSE THESE GUYS ARE LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE & THEY'RE GOIN' GLOBAL!


Posted on Mon Mar 27 22:58:48 CEST 2000 from webcache16x.cache.pol.co.uk (195.92.64.188)

Alias

From: england

Firstly - the band rule... ok, now that's out of the way, i will talk about RR. I've discovered the sexiest filmic moment in history - when RR's playing the solo to the weight on the last waltz he has that lovely concentrated look; then, when he finishes the solo he glances up to the right where rick is. this shot lingers for a couple of seconds and then is gone - basically, it sums up robbie to a tee ----- quick go watch it again and find out what i mean!


Posted on Mon Mar 27 22:49:52 CEST 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Mr. Ragtime

From: Just a provincial town, not Amsterdam actually

Ilkka's dog, pleathe tell your master that Me and The Whole Dutch community are convinced now: you really must be the funniest quadruped in this guestbook - apart from Holy Cow hey hey hey whatcha doing to me... And pleathe tell Elliott Landy to renew your master's picture - the 60's are all over now baby blue ;-)


Posted on Mon Mar 27 22:02:28 CEST 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

From: Toronto

Lou Reed was backed, beginning around '74, by a string of musicians drawn from the Toronto R&B pool: Whitey Glan, Prakash John, Michael Fonfara, Peter Hodgson, Jozef Chirowski. And before that there was Bob Ezrin, and Eugene Martynec on Berlin. Most of these worthies would've been known to the Hawks way back when.


Posted on Mon Mar 27 21:44:50 CEST 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Ilkka's dog, your prose is reminiscent of the poems of Mehitabel the Cat, as told to Archie the cockroach...alas, I hope you are not offended to be listed in the same company as a famous cat...toujours gay, toujours gay!


Posted on Mon Mar 27 19:32:24 CEST 2000 from polaris-fw1.nspco.com (206.10.243.20)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

butch: I hope Weidner trys that webcast thing again after Woodstock Radio can work out the bugs... I was sittin' patiently in a kitchen in MN... hoping to hear sumpin... while all the fun was going on...


Posted on Mon Mar 27 18:14:58 CEST 2000 from du146-0.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.0.146)

Ilkka's dog

From: The Doghouse Tapes (Unreleased and Rare, vol. I-III)
Home page

PLEATHE MR. RAGTIME
or
THE DUTCH CHEETHE PICNIC MASSACRE TALKIN' BLUES

Pleathe Mr. Ragtime, Mr. Ragtime pleathe
Pleathe Mr. Ragtime, Mr. Ragtime pleathe
Stop your tortureous teathe
I neeth your Dutch Girl cheethe
Desperately between my teeth.
Kick out the Amsterdam whore, I neeth that cheethe for more.
I don't want no speeth, like The Rolling Keith
'Cause all I really neeth, is a tiny sinful piethe
Of that ecologically correct cheethe.
So I'm down on my kneeth
And I ain't got no . . . EURO?!?!?

Guest photo of my stupid master.


Posted on Mon Mar 27 17:04:36 CEST 2000 from mail.sevencounties.org (209.149.141.194)

John-John, the Piper's Son

From: Indiana
Home page

Hello Fellow Band Fans: I am still in desperate need of the boot "The Last Moving Shadows." HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted on Mon Mar 27 16:47:12 CEST 2000 from edslink8.eds.com (199.228.142.8)

carmen

From: PA

Thanks Peter V. I happen to have a great boot of Bruce at the Main Point in Philly which has Bruce doing a real good "I Want You".


Posted on Mon Mar 27 16:30:43 CEST 2000 from on-tor-blr-ahp-13-51.look.ca (209.161.237.51)

Elliott

From: Toronto

Which members of what academy gets to vote on the "Boreass of The Year" award?


Posted on Mon Mar 27 07:24:10 CEST 2000 from r-53.70.alltel.net (166.102.53.70)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

My father told me a wonderful story over the weekend about a traveling bluesman who came through his town in South Alabama when Dad was 17 or 18. It was 1938 and Dad was working in the little grocery store that my grandfather had been running since he had lost his construction company in the depression. The store sat in a fork of Highway 231, a main northwest highway that runs up to Montgomery and over to Jackson, Mississippi. A young black man about 20 or 21, who was “playing joints” all over and who needed money, stopped, sold Dad his guitar, and gave him lessons in what Dad called “vaspool.” Dad said the guitar was a Super Auditorium Gibson F-hole guitar with an oval top and back. Dad—who has a copy of Mississippi Delta Blues—swears that the guy played and sang just like Charley Patton, who, of course, was dead by 1938. The fellow was using a bottleneck and his third finger to play. The guitar was tuned in the open key of G. Dad sold the guitar in 1947 when he and my mother needed money for their first child.


Posted on Mon Mar 27 06:19:48 CEST 2000 from pppt13-149.ght.iadfw.net (207.136.11.149)

brent scheihagen

From: Dallas, TX

Hi everybody! I just bought 'Music from the Big Pink' and 'Cahoots' (not long after my 20th birthday). Great music. The Band truly has a unique style and beauty rare in music these days. As a music student at the University of North Texas I have been exposed to a lot of great diverse music and the Band's music is as important and beautiful as any of it. Like so many musicians, these are guys I'd love to play music with. Unfortunately, I would never have the chance to do so with either Mr. Manuel or Mr. Danko. I feel sorry as a fan for these losses, but I'm glad I discovered their contributions to music. it's great stuff and I just thought i'd let everyone know that the music lives forever. Thanks


Posted on Mon Mar 27 06:00:22 CEST 2000 from user-33qt965.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.164.197)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Don't mean to start a stampede, but Royal Albert Rags is on ebay.


Posted on Mon Mar 27 05:30:20 CEST 2000 from proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.43)

jeffery parrish

i love the band. this web site is cool.


Posted on Mon Mar 27 00:15:46 CEST 2000 from du190.gridusa.net (209.45.205.102)

Gary Jones

From: Charlotte,N.C.

Charlotte looks forward to LEVON AND THE BARNBURNERS on APRIL 26. Let me know if I can help?


Posted on Sun Mar 26 23:58:20 CEST 2000 from spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.213)

Bumbles

From: Down Behind the Sun

A 2nd-degree Lou Reed-Band connection is that both performed at the 30th anniversary Dylan concert.

I think the object of the "strummers" comment was solo folkies, not rhythm guitarists.


Posted on Sun Mar 26 23:08:53 CEST 2000 from spider-tr033.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.188)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa.

Congratulations to Crabgrass who has been named "Boreass of the Year". Unfortunately his obvious lack of wit cost him the "Smartass" award. Stick with it Crabby and don't mind the silence -- it's all your mundane bullshit can muster.


Posted on Sun Mar 26 22:15:03 CEST 2000 from du-tele3-012.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.12)

Peter Viney

RR’s reaction to the VU live: I found "White light White Heat" hard-going myself, but the first and the third + Loaded are not to be dismissed. However, the virtues of the VU are not at all similar to those of The Band. The VU’s roots are pop/rock not country and R&B. And live? Well, their reunion live album sucks. I wouldn’t imagine they displayed any technical brilliance on stage. Which is not the point.

Band / Robbie connections to Lou Reed / VU? Not impossible, Rob Wasserman who played with The Band at Woodstock 94 has played bass on some Lou Reed albums. I can’t trace the reference now, but I have seen a Lou Reed live video where I’m sure Tony Levin is playing bass, as he has with RR. Fernando Saunders, Jack Bruce and John Cale are others who have played bass with Lou, indicating that he has taste in the bass department. Plus the "talking style" of Crazy River is reminiscent of Lou Reed’s talking style ("New York", "A Walk On The Wild Side"). Also, if RR is my favourite lead guitarist, then Lou Reed (in the absence of Eddie Cochran & John Lennon) is one of my favourite rhythm guitarists. Rhythm guitar is an under-rated skill (and the Band, it is said, did not like "strummers"), but John Fogerty, The Everly Brothers and Ray Davies are other expert practioners.


Posted on Sun Mar 26 21:27:05 CEST 2000 from spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.166)

butch

From: ulster county N.Y.

well, its the day after the Jim Weider & The Gurus HOTHOT show ,!!!!!! still a bit groggy, the fellas went overboard !!! what great musicians they ALL are,,, the first set was BLISTERING !!!! really, !!!

Big Foot set the pace,, quick, focused, then long stretches of improv guitar , piano, while Rando & Mal kept that STRONG GROOVE GOIN !!!!! Then a great REMEDY, Deep Feeling was DRAWWWWWWN OUT, & DEEP !!!! then a new fave,, Blues Condition, with GREAT VOCALS from Randy,, & a funky back-up beat that he smokes on,,,

Then, as Jimmy intro'd Deepest Cut,,, it got VERY QUIET,, he dedicated it to RICK, for all the time we spent together,,, then the tune Jimmy wrote when his mother passed, DEEPEST CUT, took on new meaning as we ALL remembered RICK,, jimmy's guitar, gently wept,,,, then as we all dried our eyes, & cleared our throats,, they brought us all back with Down Home Girl,,, THEN,,, a new FUNK- version of Carnival, blew the room away !!!

Sliding Home was next, with Jimmy killing us all with his masterful slide work,, Worth The Pain, A KILLER NEW ORLEANS BOOGIE, Twister,, then a short break,,,, the second set started with Twister, then kudos to "the boss"from Randy, & right into Dont Do It,, with Malcolm playing the PHATPHATPHATTEST bass runs,, whew !!!! wandering soul, Put Down, Then Guest Vocalist Lamont Depew gave a rockin, smokin version of RAIN,,, great singer !!!!

Jimmy's signature Many Rivers To Cross, The Weight ( Reggae) & on & On,, finally ending a triumphant night with Big Joe Beesmer singing , & chris Zaloom pickin/playin on cissy strut & hey Pocky Way,, brought back memories of THE OLD DAYS, with the fellas tearin it up, at Barlowe's & Tinker Street,,

GOOD WOODSTOCK MUSIC !!! WITH A BIG G,, for GROOVE,, these fellas know where the GROOVE goes, & how to get there & Back,, a brilliant band,, on a great night,,,, PROUD to have been there !!!! Next Time,, you should be too,,,
butch


Posted on Sun Mar 26 19:40:18 CEST 2000 from freakies.wcco.com (199.199.119.17)

Johnnie Red

hi I finally, finally got the Dylan and the Band at the Isle of Wight. Despite the negative reputation the show has, I think they sound wonderful. Though the band is mixed pretty low overall, its great to hear them hollering backup vocals. Though the performances aren't scalding like '66, they have a more laidback, country feel.

I highly recommend the show. I recently got the Band's solo set too. They sounded fantastic. ALSO: it wasn't Dylan who took Robbie to see the VU but journalist Al Arnowitz (sp.?).


Posted on Sun Mar 26 10:18:17 CEST 2000 from spider-tp083.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.213)

Donna

From: Philly

This web site is the best! Hi, to Mary, Molly, and especially to Butch who has been so patient with all my questions. Going to see Levon and the Barnburners this weekend in New York. Just so excited!

PEACE TO ALL YOU BAND FANS!


Posted on Sat Mar 25 20:29:31 CET 2000 from ip-133.dial.wans.com (64.7.64.133)

Molly Z.

From: sleepyland

KLJohn: I really love your ideas on Robbie making an album of old Band songs. Maybe he can also do a few tunes from Jubilation, and other albums he wasn't in with the Band. But I kinda doubt it'll happen, because problems would come up again with Levon and Garth. Anyway, thanks for coming up with that idea.

Have a good day everyone!! Peace!!


Posted on Sat Mar 25 19:52:56 CET 2000 from user-33qt8vt.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.163.253)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Yes, there is a Lou Reed/Band connection. As I recall, Dylan took Robbie to see The Velvet Undergound during a NY jaunt, and RR left quickly, finding the VU unlistenable.


Posted on Sat Mar 25 19:43:58 CET 2000 from du-tele3-087.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.87)

Peter Viney

Carmen: My Springsteen comment starts with how great the Band’s version of "Atlantic City" turned out to be, then you embrace most of Nebraska, and start looking out in both directions (pre and post). Levon for the rockers. Springsteen did "Up On Cripple Creek" and "Lucille" with the Levon Helm All-Stars in NJ in August 87. He knew the words to Cripple Creek. Somewhere he’s said how proud he was that The Band covered him on Atlantic City . As you say Springsteen cites Dylan and Van, his earlier anthemic stuff is more like Blonde on Blonde / Highway 61, as if he got into the early Dylan on Nebraska, and the very late (or very early) style on Tom Joad. Van albums like His Band & Street Choir, Moondance, Tupelo Honey are heavily Band-influenced in themselves. They’re all drawing from the same well. The "Royal Albert Hall" bootleg was widely circulated as were thebasement tapes.

Powderfinger: I’ve always thought it was very-RR like too. The enigma of the story was explored in about 160 pages of commentary on a Neil Young site last time I looked, a couple of years ago. This makes our discussions about lyrics pale into insignificance. The Cowboy Junkies version deserves honourable mention.


Posted on Sat Mar 25 19:14:02 CET 2000 from spider-tq074.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.79)

Pacific46

From: SF Bay Area (Berkeley side)

Rich WS, couldn't agree with you more about Rick's voice matching the plaintive sound needed for "Powderfinger." But it's so perfectly done instrumentally and vocally by Neil; seems like sacred ground that no one else should touch. Then again, I thought that about Traffic's "Mr. Fantasy" till Los Lobos pull it off at the Fillmore West. How can we get the Barnburners out here?!! Thanks to all for sharing those Wednesday night reviews.


Posted on Sat Mar 25 16:53:42 CET 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: laustin texas

Just checked out Lou Reed's "Rock n Roll Heart" video. Can anyone come up with a Lou Reed/Band connection? There is one in the video. they talk about young Lou's first influences, show "Ozzie and Harriet", talk about the musical segments of the show with some footage. they talk about Ricky nelson's band and they show a picture of the Hawks, circa 1958!!!, they talk about James Burton's telecaster playing and meanwhile zoom in on Willard "POP", (jones?) face instead of using a Burton pic. well, a fun surprise!

Band Covers: the boys do "EXILE ON MAIN ST", The Stones cover Big Pink and Brown album. I like Richard doin "Powderfinger", that song is alot like RR's old style of writing. I'd like to hear the Band do "Welfare Mothers Make Better Lovers" even more as Neil Young goes. But I got an exciting project of my own. I am dusting off my four track and making a record of songs about Crabgrass' ol' lady.


Posted on Sat Mar 25 16:50:21 CET 2000 from wit-p1a-30.wittenbergnet.net (206.40.103.33)

Ron Shankland

From: Wisconsin

Have a spare cd(not cd-r) copy of The BAnd live in New Jersey '73 for trade! Can anyone dupe" the n new Rick and Richard R+R" cd-r for me? Hello and peace to all connected wit THE Band!:->


Posted on Sat Mar 25 16:24:53 CET 2000 from spider-tj061.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.201)

Dave Z

From: Again

Forgot to ask a question in my last post... the real reason I came in here... before I got caught up in the rambin' moment... Who is singing the song Yazoo Street Scandal I on 1st disk on Boot CD Crossing The Great Divide? Is it Richard? On first listen it sounded like RR?


Posted on Sat Mar 25 16:20:14 CET 2000 from spider-wo034.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.34)

Sean

From: New York

The Band is a great band!


Posted on Sat Mar 25 14:10:47 CET 2000 from dialin-219.carmel.bestweb.net (209.94.104.253)

Mike

From: Cold Spring,New York

Was at the March 15th show at the Joyous Lake. Saw Elliot Landy taking pictures of Levon and the Barnburners all night. I was wondering if they are coming out with a CD? Would love to see that happen. Any info?


Posted on Sat Mar 25 11:18:49 CET 2000 from 120.mercerville-21-22rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.148.120)

carmen

From: pa

Hey Crabgrass, why would RR want to do that? Didn't he already do it?


Posted on Sat Mar 25 06:33:30 CET 2000 from spider-tm081.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.81)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Can anyone hear Richard singing my favorite song Gord's "If You Could Read My Mind?" I would have loved to hear a Band/Dylan-Basement-Tape-version of John Prine's "Spanish Pipedream" too...

Thanks for the bathroom description Dennis... really... Can't wait for tomorrow's Weidner Webcast... Just downloaded some kinda listenamajigee... gonna go see if it works now as a test...

How about a Band version of CSN's Helplessly Hope-ing" or whatever it's called?...

Where's Catbalu been hiding lately?... Ikka hey now you play that banjo left or right handed?... When's somebody gonna post some more good pics of the Band related woman like Marie S. or Amy H?... Nothing else so gotta go...


Posted on Sat Mar 25 06:24:42 CET 2000 from spider-tl022.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.182)

Elizabeth Ann Walton?

From: here.there..and everywhere
Home page

Levon @ the Unitarian Church April 8, 15.00 advance....... Rochester NY,.....any details......... appreciated


Posted on Sat Mar 25 05:32:22 CET 2000 from 1cust130.tnt3.poughkeepsie.ny.da.uu.net (63.17.109.130)

Terry Ariano

Glad to see you have included information that Garth Hudson played on an Lowry Hamner's Midnight Run album in 1979. I'd like to point out that Lowry Hamner only made two albums with Mercury, not three. Garth played on the second. The first was titled simply, "The Cryers". A lso, you mispell his first name when listing the songs Lowry wrote on "Midnight Run." Lowry released a solo album in 1998 entitled "Secrets of the Heart." Check out his web site. Thanks!


Posted on Sat Mar 25 04:44:09 CET 2000 from spider-wn053.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.173)

dennis

From: The daffodil's are finally bloomin' here in Quarryville, NY

This internet thing is growin' daily: a gentle reminder, for those of you in far off locals...Jimmy Weider 'n those Honky Tonk Gurus are live tomorrow evening, 'bout eleven o'clock, on Radio Woodstock's stream...earlier this week a gentleman from the station posted the site as: http://www.radiowoodstock.com/event/webcasts.html For those blues fans in the Hudson Valley, perhaps you've been listenin' to WVKR-FM for these last ten or so years to Friday evening's Blues After Hours shows featuring Doug Price spinnin'... this evening's show's featured songs played on New York City's 10-10 WINS New York shows back in the mid-fifties. 91.3 FM, Vassar College, Poughkeepsie, NY. The early show, Vince Vincent's Jukebox Jambouree devoted it's entire show to songs recorded at Sun Studios. Anyhow, WVKR goes internet April first....Hope to see YOU at The Lake tomorrow evening, but if you can't make it, hopefully you can catch Jimmy 'n his gang online....


Posted on Sat Mar 25 03:16:56 CET 2000 from ns1.schuster.com (199.105.252.66)

Pullmyfinger

From: The Outhouse

I finally got around to last year's remarkable boxed set, "Loud, Fast & Out of Control: The Wild Sounds of '50s Rock" and I'm glad I got past the ugly exterior to the wonderful insides. This has to be the definitive cross-section of roots rock with some of the most obscure tracks threatening to steal the show from the famous ones. As usual with a Rhino set, the annotation and sound quality are superb (though I noticed that at least one track sounds better on the relatively tinny portable CD player here in my office). Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks only turn up for one song, but the other 103 tracks are mostly pure pleasure and a revelation of the pure power of early rock'n'roll, a tradition which The Band followed from "Look Out Cleveland" to "White Cadillac" (thanks Levon!).


Posted on Sat Mar 25 02:38:20 CET 2000 from boc-stockton36.oakweb.com (208.147.34.36)

Rich WS

From: Berkeley, CA

Regarding a Band cover of "Powderfinger"- I think they could have done a wonderful rendition of it with either Richard, Rick, Levon, or even Robbie on vocals, but I always heard it as a Rick song. Rick could project a very vulnerable, plaintive quality with his singing that would have perfectly fit the lyrics. Of course, Richard and Levon can do that too, but I think that little quiver in Rick's voice would have totally nailed the song. By the way, isn't "Powderfinger" a song that really sounds like it should have been written by Robbie?


Posted on Sat Mar 25 00:05:33 CET 2000 from 1cust245.tnt11.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.134.245)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Wow!!! I think Robbie should re-record Big Pink, The Band, and Stage Fright all by himself and release it as a triple CD. I wonder if I can order it on the internet right now before it's even been done?


Posted on Fri Mar 24 21:37:50 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int01.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.67)

Bones

From: CT

I hope that the Last Waltz DVD with have some special features on it, but I kind of doubt it. DVD is a wonderful format to add additional scenes and commentary without disrupting the original release. Because of the VH-1 special last year, Robbie and Scorsese probably feel that they have already been there and done that. Plus, Scorsese has not done any extra commentary on any of his DVD releases.


Posted on Fri Mar 24 19:55:11 CET 2000 from sjiassoc16.erols.com (208.58.12.144)

Jon Lyness

From: New York City

I saw Eric Andersen's show at the Bottom Line on Tuesday. A beautiful & soulful performance, mixing old songs with songs from his new album. As an encore, he performed a wrenching version of "Blue River" that was very moving indeed, preceded by a few kind words about Rick. Again, I urge anyone whose area Eric is passing through to catch his shows -- you won't regret it.


Posted on Fri Mar 24 17:33:31 CET 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

From: Toronto

Paul G: A toast to your idea of Levon singing Lucifer's "Old Mother Nature". Did you, btw, catch any of Eugene/Jay Smith's shows during his short visit back east a week or two ago? I caught one, which was wonderful. He even did "Piece Of Wood" 'cause I asked for it.

And, did you know that Narvel Felts recorded his "Thousand Miles" (or whatever) hit at a London radio station (CKCL?)? So I guess oldies stations could play it as CanCon. I spotted that factoid in the current Blue Suede News. Narvel also talks a bit about doing the circuit with Ronnie Hawkins, Conway Twitty and Matt Lucas.


Posted on Fri Mar 24 16:42:03 CET 2000 from pool-209-138-10-85.ipls.grid.net (209.138.10.85)

Bobby Jones

From: Columbus

Carmen - I was at a Levon show at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park N.J. in the late 80's. Bruce hoped on stage along with Max Weinberg and sang a couple songs with Levon. Between songs Bruce said something about The Bands effect on him. I don't remember the comment but I know it was Very Positive. T.T.F.N


Posted on Fri Mar 24 15:36:36 CET 2000 from edslink8.eds.com (199.228.142.8)

carmen

From: pa

Peter V., you stated half of the Springsteen songbook. I am curious, I happen to be a big Springsteen fan as well and can't help but feel that the BAND was a large influence on him. I have never heard him mention the BAND as an influence. He has stated Van and Dylan as early influences. My guess is he had his own copy of the basement tapes long before the official release. What do you think!


Posted on Fri Mar 24 15:32:18 CET 2000 from mail.sevencounties.org (209.149.141.194)

knockin' Lost John

From: Indiana
Home page

Hello Band fans: Just had an idea that I wanted to throw out for discussion. How about a Robbie Robertson album of all old band songs w/ RR on lead vocals. Wouldn't it be cool to hear RR singing Up On Cripple Creek, The Weight, Ophelia, or Dixie? Tell us your thoughts! John


Posted on Fri Mar 24 07:58:07 CET 2000 from ts1-31.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.31)

cupid

Peter Viney: Richard doing "Powder Finger" THWACK you hit that one out of the park brother.That would be amazing! Peace Cupid


Posted on Fri Mar 24 07:52:26 CET 2000 from cache-2.www.telinco.net (212.1.128.62)

Alan Matkin

From: Great Britain

Have you ever been to Britain, if not when are you coming? If you have then I missed ya.... Excelllent site....


Posted on Fri Mar 24 04:38:34 CET 2000 from user-33qt95v.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.164.191)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

On the Authorized Biography Video, there's a black and white version of Chest Fever that occurs soon after the Ed Sullivan Show segment. Does anyone know the source for this? It looks circa 1971.


Posted on Fri Mar 24 02:23:46 CET 2000 from user-33qt8ti.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.163.178)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Who are the Rolling Stones?


Posted on Fri Mar 24 01:29:11 CET 2000 from spider-tj073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.208)

butch

From: ulster county ny

In response to questions for you phillycheezedogs,, sorry, bob, & others,, not this time around,, we were trying to get a date & a venue, but it didnt fit,, maybe nexttime ? ? or you can jump on the train @ the 30st station,, & in 2 hours see the fellas & amy in nyc ??? thanks for the interest,,, we'll get to ya,,, butch


Posted on Fri Mar 24 01:11:17 CET 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr one more time!

From: texas

opinions are a dime a dozen an eveybody's got em. someone mentioned the Roy Buchanan anthology and this is true "Desert Island" material. imho there are compositions here that are just so heavy they make Hendrix look almost decorative, if not naive. now my opinion and taste are open to question certainly but the "sweet Dreams" anthology makes jaws drop by the roomful when I play it for my drawing classes. "When the Messiah Returns" (sic(?) is one very heavy, spooky song that gives me chills every time.

every time y'all talk about remembering Rick and Richard in your lives I get a nice warm feeling, gang. thanks jan, and everyone.


Posted on Fri Mar 24 00:32:19 CET 2000 from ip202.st-louis12.mo.pub-ip.psi.net (38.31.68.202)

JonC

From: Missouri

I checked Amazon. Last Waltz DVD is listed but looks like not out yet. It says it was released on the 20th, but you can't add it to your shopping cart. You can have them notify you when it is released, though.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 23:27:05 CET 2000 from du-tele3-072.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.72)

Peter Viney

Band covering others? As Crabgrass said vice-versa is more logical, but here goes with the fantasy. : The Rolling Stones, "Country Honk" sung by Levon with Garth on accordion and rick on fiddle , Louisiana Leroux’s "New Orleans Ladies" sung by Rick & Richard, Seatrain’s "Creeping Midnight" by the same pair, and for a way-out one, Prince’s "Holy River" . Then half the Springsteen songbook. J.J.Cale, "After Midnight" but NOT "Crazy Mama.’ Randy Newman, "Louisiana 1927" (they’ve done this live) and "Kingfish" (they’ve done this too). Maybe "Sail Away." But if they’d been looking for a writer, I’d highly recommend Robbie Robertson, "Soap Box Preacher" for starters. There a few Van Morrison and Neil Young songs. Richard on "Powderfinger" anyone?


Posted on Thu Mar 23 22:46:36 CET 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: austin tx

chess drummers... other drummers that played with muddy I can think of are the great Ted Harvey and willie "Big Eyes" Smith.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 22:08:16 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.245)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Bill: I've heard the version of "Caledonia" from the complete Last Waltz and if it had been up to me, I would have included both of Muddy's songs in the movie. "Mannish Boy" is however considered to be one of his signature songs. Speaking of The Last Waltz, Amazon.com seems to be the only place that I can find that is listing a DVD version.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 21:50:31 CET 2000 from revlukup.clr.com (164.57.254.206)

Brown-Eyed Johnny

Paul Nyman: In case you might not already know, a good resource for finding out about the sound quality of the Japanese limited edition mini-LP versions of the Band's albums is the ICE magazine Ice Box chat at www.icemagazine.com. Just post a query in the Reissues forum. I'm sure you'll get responses. The Band mini-LP CDs have been addressed many times in the Reissues chat.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 21:31:31 CET 2000 from 1cust33.tnt14.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.142.33)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Since the Band is no more and the Stones are still rolling I think it much more logical that the Stones should do covers of the Band's tunes. However, I think both bands have done quite definitive versions of their own material which don't need to ever be re-recorded by anybody else. Is the Stones rendition of "Like A Rolling Stone" an improvement on Dylan's original or is it just a good imitation? (Okay, admittedly Dylan can't sing it as well anymore - but I'd rather hear him do it since he wrote it.) And were Stevie Ray's or Roy Buchanon's versions of Hendrix tunes an improvement of the originals? I saw Buchanon at the Bottom Line in the mid-80s and the show stoppers were his copies of Hendrix tunes but they made his own compositons seem paltry by comparison. In essence it was "Jimi" that the crowd was going wild for.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 21:05:59 CET 2000 from (130.219.229.173)

Bill

How about Rick singing "Wild Horses" with all three singing the chorus?


Posted on Thu Mar 23 20:41:32 CET 2000 from spider-wi024.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.29)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

David Powell-I recollect Muddy and the boy's Caledonia as one of several showstoppers at the LW. I was disappointed from the start that they chose to include Mannish Boy in the movie rather than Caledonia. I also thought the latter would have been a more appropriate choice as it was on Muddy's Woodstock album, produced by Levon(this album still holds up well IMHO). I guess we are fortunate that Muddy(and Pinetop} made the cut at all.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 20:33:39 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int02.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.68)

Bones

From: CT

Last Waltz on DVD?? Is that true? Also, I have heard that Japan is re-releasing Hirth Martinez' first two records on CD.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 20:09:20 CET 2000 from atmax-8-29.enter.net (207.16.154.131)

Little Brother

From: around Philly, PA

--Brian Kaz, thanks for the link to the Rick Danko info. I hesitated for a second, wondering if this was some kind of "rotten.com" deal.

--Paul Nyman, I commented a while back about lyrics sheets included with Band Japanese imports. Yes, they have an abundance of classic silly translation bloopers. To be fair, these are usually where the phrases are so esoteric or idiosyncratic that even native English speakers (hearers?) who aren't thoroughly familiar with the songs could goof up.

In any case, these slips of paper aren't worth bothering over; they're at best a cute little "extra" to chuckle over if you're fortunate enough to have a buzz. The ones I've gotten so far-- "Rock of Ages" and "The Band", are NOT packaged in those detestable jewel cases, but are actually miniaturized clones of the original album covers. They even have a little plastic "dust jacket". Everything produced on the Lilliputian CD scale is too small to equal the impact of the full (read "right") size antiques, but these things are damn cute.

MOST importantly (I like to build up to things), the sound is definitely better than the domestic product to my ears. My craptacular Sony bookshelf system and much-used Koss headphones aren't exactly state of the art, but there's more punch, crispness, and clarity. I'm sure the audiophile elites-- David Powell, Peter Viney, et al-- could supply more authoritative judgements. I'd LOVE to find a "Moondog Matinee" special edition. By the way, I don't notice any radical differences in the basic mix. Unlike "Stagefright", (Mobile Fidelity (?) gold version), which sounds fine except that the mix mutes Robbie too much for my taste. It's as if they were trying to keep that special Band "quiet" quality going.

-- Crabgrass! You crazy, man! Or woman, as the case may be! "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" is one of my non-guilty pleasures, and I've often wondered if Garth ever covered that monster. Doug Ingle certainly had that Bach/churchy/baroque influence cooking. Sure, the Band could do it-- "Chest Fever" is a virtual parody, albeit with more intricate/mysterioso lyrics. How 'bout a DOUBLE-drum solo with Levon and Richard?

And Levon up front for "Honky-Tonk Woman". And I'm gonna drag out "Spirit In the Sky" again. Robbie might opt for that Leslie sound in lieu of fuzz for his overdriven Telecaster. Procol Harum's "Whiter Shade of Pale" is also a possibility...


Posted on Thu Mar 23 17:40:19 CET 2000 from spider-tk044.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.194)

bob wigo

From: havertown,pa.

Hey Butch! In a previous post you mentioned Philly as a stop for Levon & the Barnburners. Any specifics yet? Sure hope to see you all down here in the near future. By the way, the other topic you and I have been discussing is still very much alive and I'm keeping the faith. Thanks Butch.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 17:20:46 CET 2000 from max1-79.intellistar.net (206.105.68.79)

Dan

From: Orlando

I apologize if this is old news: according to Amazon.Com the Last Waltz is available in DVD.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 16:39:11 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.245)

David Powell

From: Georgia

When Muddy Waters performed "Mannish Boy" with The Band at The Last Waltz he practically stole the show with his energized performance. His original version of that song was recorded on May 24, 1955 at Chess Studios in Chicago. Backing him up on that session was Jimmy Rodgers on guitar, Willie Dixon on bass, Francis Clay on drums and Little Walter (or possibly Junior Wells) on harmonica. The song was Muddy's answer to Bo Diddley's "I'm A Man" which was the flip side to the classic "Bo Diddley" that popularized the distinctive 3/2 "hambone" beat. That cadence, with its roots in African and Cuban rhythms, was also used by Mr. McDaniel in several other songs, including "Who Do You Love." Both of these were of course standards that were performed by The Hawks with Ronnie Hawkins.

It is interesting to note that Muddy's early Aristocrat and Chess sessions (from 1948-1950) were recorded with just Muddy on guitar & vocals accompnied only by Ernest "Big" Crawford on bass. According to Mary Katherine Aldin's liner notes to "Muddy Waters / His Best, 1947 to 1955" (The Chess 50th Anniversary Collection), Muddy began playing in various Chicago clubs using a band consisting of Jimmy Rodgers, Little Walter and Baby Face Leroy on drums. Muddy was anxious to use the band on his recordings, but as Ms. Aldin recounts, Leonard Chess was hesitant to alter the successful formula of the early recordings that utilized just Muddy & Big Crawford. Finally, by the time Muddy recorded "Louisiana Blues" on October 23, 1950, he had convinced Chess to allow in to add musicians, and both Little Walter and his new drummer, Elgin Evans, appeared on the cut.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 16:08:59 CET 2000 from ip87-max7-lowell.ziplink.net (206.15.160.247)

Long Distance Operator

From: Band gets Stoned

Richard on "You Got The Silver"; Rick on "Before They Make Me Run"; Levon on "All Down The Line".


Posted on Thu Mar 23 15:27:14 CET 2000 from 1cust210.tnt2.iowa-city.ia.da.uu.net (63.25.167.210)

Paul Nyman

Could I get some feedback on the Japanese "Limited Edition" Band Cd's? I'm wondering if the sound is overall better than any U.S. versions? I've heard some comments about liner/lyrics being translated poorly. Thank you!


Posted on Thu Mar 23 14:46:36 CET 2000 from pm1-73.delrio.com (208.246.52.93)

Just Wonderin'

Levon singing Jesse Winchester's "Rhumba Man" would be cool. Also "Twigs and Seeds" would be great by the Band!


Posted on Thu Mar 23 13:29:42 CET 2000 from port75.ts2.ulster.net (208.242.164.75)

Nathan

From: Port Ewen,New York

Me and my wife just returned from a great night at Ulster County Community College where I saw the Professor Louie and Marie Spinosa as part of the Larry Packer "Artist in Residency" Concert. For "Band" fans Marie and Louie did a great duo version of "Don't Wait" and Crowmatix fans, Marie did a hot rendition of "Poor Little Fool" and the rockin' Breeze Hill track"Next Time You See Me" Larry Packer (who is the famous violinist from "The Last Waltz" ) mentioned Louie flew in from Nashville the night before. A great show that also featured, Happy and Artie Traum, Scott Petito, Jim Curtin, Steve Burgh, Ed Diehl, Tim Kapeluck, Bishop O'Brien, Leslie Ritter, and of course the violinist Larry Packer. A who's who of Hudson Valley legends, all for free! Just a great night with great people, it makes me proud to live in the area. Next, I'm gonna see Jimmy Weider and the Gurus on Saturday in Woodstock.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 09:59:40 CET 2000 from ts1-7.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.7)

cupid

The Band covering Stones tunes eh...How's about "Dead Flowers" with Rick doing the lead or "Sway" with Richard doing the honors.Levon would be perfect for"Country Honk" off Sticky Fingers.Peace Cupid


Posted on Thu Mar 23 07:48:40 CET 2000 from spider-wa044.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.39)

Dennis

From: QUARRYVILLE, NY

....and on to this evening's Barn Burners event: WOW! Winter's winding down, many less sweaters and many more smiles! How do you say this, but apparently for the time being, Mr. Hudson's been replaced by a gentleman by the name of Marty from just down the road in Accord, N.Y. Last Wednesday was the gentleman's first, and things seemed kind of timid. This evening's show was anything but the same: these boys were rockin', at Pat O'Shea's request, this man was just bangin' the keys and the audience loved it. The boss was the most animated he's been since this historical series began on that dark, dank December evening. Hope YOU 'n yours can come out 'n share some smiles with this Hall of Fame performer over the next couple 'a weeks...it's worth the effort. Once again, please feel free to e-mail for directions or whatever.....


Posted on Thu Mar 23 07:35:52 CET 2000 from spider-wa044.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.39)

Dennis

From: Just discovered Wanda 'n I live in the hamlet of Quarryville in Saugerties, NY, not West Saugeries....hmmm

Two posts this evening...here's the first: for those of you who haven't had the experience of visiting Woodstock's Joyous Lake, a brief description: it's located in a creepy old worn-down building, kind of a shit-hole when compared to high society. But it's history is incredible. You go to take a leak in the men's room, and you stand there with what-ever in hand and just stare at the grafitti-adorned show posters from years gone by and before you know it, ya been in there for twenty minutes. These posters announce everyone from NRBQ to the Talking Heads to Brooke Benton. Outside, it's Band heaven with original posters from Watkins Glen to The Last Waltz, all compliments of Ned Moran's Avalon Archive museum. For those of you that cannot make a Barn Burner's show on Wednesdays (next post), you owe it to your rock 'n roll memory collection to try and get here this Saturday for Jimmy Weider's Honky Tonk Guru show. For Band fans, this one will be a goodie, and seein' The Guru's at the Lake is just icing on the cake. Hope YOU can make it, guaranteed it'll be worth the trip...


Posted on Thu Mar 23 06:28:20 CET 2000 from r-53.42.alltel.net (166.102.53.42)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

Actually, "Sweet Home Chicago" was cut probably no more than two years before Robert Johnson's death, thus, no more than two years before his last rambling trips.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 05:54:56 CET 2000 from r-53.42.alltel.net (166.102.53.42)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

Indeed, Jonathon Katz, Robert Johnson rambled on up to Chicago with Honeyboy Edwards as well as on his own--that was years after, I believe, he had made "Sweet Home Chicago," which Palmer says was a rewritten, reworked version of Kikomo Arnold's "Old Original Kokomo Blues." [Arnold was a Georgian transplanted to Chicago.] Johnson was a true traveling bluesman: "Robert was a guy, you could wake him up any time and he was ready to go," says guitarist Johnny Shines. He might travel in the company of Honeyboy via freight to St. Louis or Chicago, or go it alone to Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, New York City, Buffalo, and even Ontario, according to Palmer. He seems to have traveled Highway 61, at one point, also, from Memphis to Missouri, singing, playing, collecting coins. Another influence from whom he copied: Skip James.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 04:31:43 CET 2000 from spider-to027.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.15)

Mike Carrico

From: Georgia

Matt - thanks for fleshing out Francey Clay & Fred Below...great to see the spirited defense of vinyl, which for me sounds much superior to CD; more bottom and more presence, an earthier warmer sound. My LP of the Brown Album sounded used on first playing (to this day "King Harvest" still skips on the final chorus), but beneath all the snapcracklepop the music sounds better than CD versions I've encountered. CD despite all its clean crisp qualities, sounds colder and somehow more distant from its source than vinyl.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 04:19:34 CET 2000 from pool-209-138-10-195.ipls.grid.net (209.138.10.195)

Bobby Jones

From: Columbus

My vote has to go to the song "Kinky" on Kinky Friedmans "Lasso From El Paso". I would love to have heard Levon and Rick sing this song. You can hear how much fun they are having singing backup for the Kinkster on that album. I also think they could have done a GREAT cover of Mr. Bojangles. My wife thinks "Amie" and "Falling In and Out Love With You" from Pure Parie League would have been Hugh Hits if covered by The Band.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 04:19:10 CET 2000 from parachute2-156-40-65-152.net.nih.gov (156.40.65.152)

Jonathan Katz

From: Columbia, MD

David Powell: The "Even Harder To Find" bootleg has a very good sound on "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues." I don't know what they used for their source but from your description, it sounds as though they used a better source than Sony did for "Masterpieces," which I haven't heard. BTW: JRR's playing on this number is every bit as good as it is anywhere else from this tour, and more than just a bit different from "Guitars Kissing..." aka "Live 1966." Also on the "Even Harder..." boot are the Woody Guthrie Tribute songs, and the hard to find big band [no not The Band] version of "George Jackson." This one is actually more of a "pirate" CD than a real "bootleg."

Martha Page: Robert Johnson in Chicago?

mattk: You continue to amaze me.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 03:02:02 CET 2000 from 1cust198.tnt9.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.128.198)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

I think the Band could have done a great job on "Stairway to Heaven," "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida," or "Foxy Lady" with Levon playing the guitar licks on mandolin. Too bad they never got that rumored "By Request" album together.


Posted on Thu Mar 23 01:36:17 CET 2000 from cfa1.execulink.net (199.166.6.10)

Paul Godfrey

Consider....Levon doing "High & Dry" from stones album "Aftermath" Bill M...how bout Levon doing "Old Mother Nature" by Lucifer. I can just hear Levon's unique drum beat coming thru....Shine On!


Posted on Thu Mar 23 01:04:05 CET 2000 from as33.infoflex.com.au (203.23.250.72)

Anthony Frazer

From: Sydeny, Australia

Imagine Levon doing "Sweet Virginia" from Exile on Main St - then all the boys could whoop it up on the chorus...

"Got to scrape that shit right off yer shoes..."


Posted on Thu Mar 23 00:35:02 CET 2000 from spider-tl073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.208)

Long Distance Operator

From: Main St.

If we're considering Jagger/Richards efforts that would have been great by The Band, let's throw in Loving Cup, Salt Of The Earth, Street Fighting Man, Torn And Frayed (Rick on lead!), Shine A Light,... oh, how about everything from Beggars through Exile!


Posted on Thu Mar 23 00:26:22 CET 2000 from 101.mercerville-26-27rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.150.101)

carmen

From: PA

Another Stones tune would be "No Expectations".


Posted on Thu Mar 23 00:23:39 CET 2000 from 101.mercerville-26-27rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.150.101)

carmen

From: PA

How about "Fool to Cry" or "Memory Motel" as a couple of Stones tunes covered by the BAND!


Posted on Thu Mar 23 00:10:29 CET 2000 from spider-tk053.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.198)

Long Distance Operator

Jcf: Huge call on "Let It Loose"! Wow, a Band version of that would be delicious! Hard to improve on what was perhaps Mick's most impassioned vocal ever, but if anybody could, it would be the boys in The Band.


Posted on Wed Mar 22 22:46:33 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

GACK!!! Please forgive my typo:

"Levon is influenced Francis Clay as surely as Robbie is influenced by Jimmie Rodgers..."

Should read:

"Levon is influenced Francis Clay as surely as Robbie is influenced by Jimmy Rogers..."

Jimmie Rodgers and Jimmy Rogers are obviously very different people...(note to self, drink coffee BEFORE posting in the morning).


Posted on Wed Mar 22 21:20:28 CET 2000 from host-216-78-244-224.mia.bellsouth.net (216.78.244.224)

Brian Kaz

From: Miami, FL

The results of Danko's autopsy can be found at JAM!MUSIC. The address is http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic Then click on 'More Music News' and you will find the report under 'March 17, 2000' Doctor's ruled it a stroke.


Posted on Wed Mar 22 19:03:58 CET 2000 from mail.burgercam.com (204.143.234.46)

Jcf

From: New York

I would like to know what songs, that the Band never covered, would have made for good covers. Moondoog matinee was of course all covers. But those songs were all originally recorded prior to 1968 (the year of the Band's first album), so i'm interested in covers of post 1967 originals. You can pick a cover of a song from on of your favorite non Band groups. I am a Rolling Stones Fan and think that a Band cover of Let it Loose would have been interesting.


Posted on Wed Mar 22 18:21:26 CET 2000 from blgsb103-02.splitrock.net (209.252.130.50)

Jack Straw

From: "somewhere in the middle of Montana"

I like this album cover/vinyl LP talk. John Fahey always seems to have interesting ones. The Sandals soundtrack to Endless Summer was good album cover even if one can't appreciate the music genre. CD's are certainly clean and convenient but lets face it, there are numbers between 0 and 1 and analog will win that game anytime


Posted on Wed Mar 22 18:07:55 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

This is what I get for going to a meeting between starting and finally sending my post. My friends in Georgia both mention (rightfully) that Muddy used a variety of drummers, Mike focuses on Fred Below.

Fred Below was less a dedicated Muddy drummer than a studio whiz for Chess in the 1950s - Below's "working" band was "The Aces." Below's influence is particularly felt via his relationship with Little Walter, who left Muddy and joined The Aces (ironically, The Aces were originally led by Junior Wells, who was replaced by Little Walter - the two essentially switched groups as Wells replaced Walter in Muddy's band).

Below, like Clay, was jazz trained, and is also responsible for the heavier synchopation found in Chicago vs. Delta blues. However, while Below recorded with Muddy's band at Chess, his mark is felt more stongly via his association with Little Walter and the Aces. In the 1960s and 1970s, like Clay, Fred Below appeared on an incredible number of records with the likes of Sonny Boy Williamson, Koko Taylor, Lightin' Hopkins, Koko Taylor, Buddy Guy, Elmore James and Charlie Musselwhite (Below is the drummer on Musselwhite's debut SOLO recording, "Stand Back" though, obviously Musselwhite was a studio veteran of nearly 10 years by this time - including on John Hammond Jr.'s "So Many Roads" album, which also featured Robbie, Levon and Garth, and plays a critical role in the history of The Band's evolution and particularly their association with Dylan).

Matt


Posted on Wed Mar 22 17:52:33 CET 2000 from proxy-513.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.103)

Bob Wyman

From: Colorado
Home page

For those who may have missed my last post: I have put up another picture of Rick on my homepage. I have have two more I will get to next week (I am leaving for Luckenbach Texas on Saturday for Jerry Jeff Walker's birthday party!). Peace Bob


Posted on Wed Mar 22 17:42:51 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Medicine Hat, Francis Clay was Muddy's prime drummer, both in studio and on the road throughout the 1950s and early 1960s. Many people consider Clay the definitive Chicago blues drummer due to his two stints with Muddy (he rejoined Muddy's band in the late 60s for a couple of years, I believe), but also by virtue of his association with Lightin' Hopkins, Otis Rush, and James Cotton.

James Cotton represents the other major association in Clay's career. After leaving Muddy's band in the early 1960s, Clay backed Cotton for the bulk of the 1960s, including on Cotton's seminal Verve recordings.

Ironically, Clay actually started out as a jazz drummer, and did not play the blues until hooking up with Muddy in the late 1940s. Supposedly Muddy worked with Clay in morphing Clay's more synchopated style into a blues framework (the outcome of which is obvious when you listen to the tune's like "Got My Mojo Workin'" which has an almost stride-piano jazz feel in the underlying beat.

Muddy's Chess recordings are really responsible for creating and solidifying that move from Delta to "harder" urban/chicago blues. Much is made of the "plugging" in of guitars in fueling this evolution, but there is a fundamental change as well in the role of the drummer. It can be argued that what Muddy brought with him, rhythmically, up from Clarksdale, MS combined with what Clay brought from his jazz experience influenced blues drummers (and by extension R/B and R&R) drumming going forward.

I don't know Levon, personally, but everything I've read leads me to believe that he's tremendously knowledgable about drumming, and particularly blues drumming. If someone like Bruce Dener or anyone who knows Levon pretty well reads this, perhaps they can shed some light on specific connections between Clay and Levon (though both have drummed for James Cotton). It's kind of a no-brainer, influence-wise: Levon is influenced Francis Clay as surely as Robbie is influenced by Jimmie Rodgers...it's unavoidable.

BTW, Clay (last I heard) was still alive, though physical problems with his legs have limited his playing. I believe he's in the San Francisco area, and has gained a reputation as a respected poet and writer in the area.

David Powell? Peter Viney? Anyone? I'm sure there's much more to draw from here. I'd need to look at Levon's book to see if he makes any specific references to Francis Clay...

matt


Posted on Wed Mar 22 17:39:24 CET 2000 from dialin-225.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net (216.179.14.59)

Gene

From: Dutchess County

US tour dates for Ringo and his All-Starr band are posted on http://www.ringotour.com. They are coming to Dutchess County (home of the Great and the Near-Great) on 15th May. Peace


Posted on Wed Mar 22 17:06:42 CET 2000 from (149.160.22.91)

Knockin' Lost John

From: Indiana
Home page

OOPS! My URL was incorrect in my last post. Sorry! Please check out the Granddaddy Bootleg site at the above link! Thanks


Posted on Wed Mar 22 17:02:19 CET 2000 from (149.160.22.91)

Knockin' Lost John

From: Indiana
Home page

Love this website! Visit it often (EVERY DAY!). BIG Band Fan. Now, for a shameless PLUG. My partner and I, Brent Lechner, are independent musicians in southern Indiana, about to release our first album on our own independent label. If you like the BAND, you will Like our music! I Promise. Anyway, our homepage is primitive right now, but check it out anyway and let us know what you think. Soon you'll be able to listen to some of the album as well as buy the album via that site. We do an excellent cover of Ain't No More Cane, including all of the lyrics the Band didn't do (Which I found on this site!) Thanks! Check it out. Granddaddy Bootleg!


Posted on Wed Mar 22 16:49:24 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.128)

David Powell

From: Georgia

A variety of drummers played with Muddy Waters on the sessions he recorded for Chess over the years. They include: Elgin Evans, Fred Below, Francis Clay, S.P. Leary and Clifton James.

The other day I mentioned the Freddy Weller LP "Listen To The Young Folks" (Columbia CS 1036) which contains an excellent cover version of "Up On Cripple Creek." Since the album cover contains no mention of a release date, I guessed around the early seventies. Upon further examination I believe it was released earlier. The copy I have is an original pressing with a Columbia "360 Sound" label. Beginning in 1970 Columbia changed to a different style of label on their records and began using a KC prefix instead of CS before their release numbers. The Byrds album, "Ballad of Easy Rider" (Columbia CS 9942 w/"360" label) was released in October of 1969. Since this release number is close to that of the Freddy Weller album, this is a strong indication that "Listen To The Young Folks" was released in late 1969. So Freddy's cover of "Up On Cripple Creek" was evidently recorded shortly after The Band recorded their original version. Incidentally, Freddy's album was produced by M. (Mark) Lindsay, the lead singer & frontman of Paul Revere & the Raiders.

I've always been disappointed with the "tinny" sound of "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" on the "Masterpieces" 3-CD import set. I also have an Australian 3-LP copy of that album and while the vinyl version is somewhat of an improvement over the CD, it still can't compare with the 45 single version in glorious mono. The 45 has deep smooth bass & midrange, especially evident in the sound of Mickey Jones's drums as he pounds out that almost marching cadence while Rick's bass lopes along in sync. Garth's rich organ notes snake around Robbie's sinewy guitar leads as Dylan spits out the lyrics in an edgy, amphetamine-like blaze. Ladies & gentlemen, when I listen to that 45, all I can say is that "it don't get no better than this!"


Posted on Wed Mar 22 16:38:44 CET 2000 from 216-1-128-62.akorn.net (216.1.128.62)

Mike Carrico

From: Georgia

Butch - great news that the Barnburners are coming to the Peach State - where in Winder will they be playing?

Medincine Hat - although different drummers backed Muddy over the years, Fred Below was often the man on the 50's Chess recordings.


Posted on Wed Mar 22 14:55:18 CET 2000 from gateway.llgm.com (209.125.166.250)

medicine hat

From: pittsburgh

nice to be back at the barnburners' web site. my favorite record cover is the ella fitzgerald and louis armstrong record "ella & louie". no print on the front cover, just a lovely color photo of the two of them sitting on chairs -- ella in her schoolgirl party dress, hands across her lap, the faintest hint of a smile on her face; louis with his horn and "satchelmouth" grin, sleeves rolled up and socks rolled down. it's beautiful. on a band related note: recently i was listening to some muddy waters' sides from the fifties and was (once again) struck by the quality of the musicianship -- particularly the drummer. it was clear that levon was heavily influenced by the sound and the style of drumming on these records (even down to using rods instead of sticks). we all know about the levon-peck curtis connection, but does anyone (mattk/peter v.?) know who the drummer(s) was for chess sessions from this period? peace.


Posted on Wed Mar 22 14:53:40 CET 2000 from ti09a61-0249.dialup.online.no (130.67.56.249)

Groan Alone

From: inner space
Home page

Now this I like ! Have been away from the page for a while and find people praising vinyl !! Covers, The Dead Europe 72. Blues for Allah,Neil Young After The Gold Rush,Curtis Mayfield No Place Like America Today, Sun Ra The Other Side of The Sun, Richard and Linda Thompson Shoot out The Lights Elvis Costello Trust, and the sound of vinyl, good vinyl adds a mid range punch that you won't get from cd's, great for rock'n roll, yep I like vinyl so much that we also made our latest cd "Astrodome" available as a 10" green vinyl ep. Yep, and they smell better than cd's, and no remote=exercise,non programmable !! Vinyl is alive and well lots of bands are releasing vinyl these days, dust off the turntables and check some out . P.S they might even last longer than cd's.......


Posted on Wed Mar 22 12:51:12 CET 2000 from r-53.75.alltel.net (166.102.53.75)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

Sean: Robert Palmer's Deep Blues presents a very readable argument for the evolution of rock and roll from Delta blues. When the likes of Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon, and Robert Johnson took the Delta blues to Chicago, it urbanized into the Chicago blues then rhythm and blues then into offshoots of rockabilly and rock 'n roll (with Chuck Berry, who combined country and western "guitar licks" into rhythm and blues, as a leader according to the rockhall.com site). rockhall.com does credit LaVern Baker with "melding blues, jazz, and R&B styles in a way that made possible the emergence of a new idiom: rock and roll." Rock and roll really is a big "soup" (to use Robbie Robertson's expression) of Delta blues, Chicago blues, rhythm and blues, gospel, jazz, country, and western... My summary is just too short and sweet to record accurately what was happening in music plus and minus fifty years ago, but it is to say that you are somewhat correct about jazz and rock 'n roll.


Posted on Wed Mar 22 10:41:24 CET 2000 from spider-wa043.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.38)

Yaya

From: here

Joni Mitchell: Miles of Aisles, album cover , is the best !!the drawing-- around a photo, of a shot from the perspective, of seat in the audience..... with the rest of the ampitheatre drawn in.....play on keep listening


Posted on Wed Mar 22 08:27:19 CET 2000 from 1cust14.tnt12.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.136.14)

Damon Z

From: The Island

One of my favorite album covers has always been The Incredible String Band's "5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion." And I always rated them way up there along with The Band and the Beatles too although their music was of a very different kind. "CS&N" is a great cover too and so is "A Salty Dog" by Procol Harum which is a parody of a British cigarette package. Of The Band's covers I favor the Brown album. The contrast of the monochrome outer jacket with the color photos inside is real classy.


Posted on Wed Mar 22 07:08:05 CET 2000 from spider-wi053.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.43)

Sean

From: Melbourne

My favourite album cover has always been the Beatles Revolver done by Klaus Voorman. I have been reading Charlie Gillet's The Sound of the City, I was always of the opinion that rock and roll developed from jazz music. I see the rhythm and blues influences but I always thought rock and roll was influenced by jazz. What does everyone else think? I promise that you won't see this entry three times!


Posted on Wed Mar 22 06:55:41 CET 2000 from spider-wm075.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.202)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

I always liked the Rock of Ages album cover... especially the velvety dark purple color which for some reason brings back memories to me of old big movie theatres with those curtains of similar color... This was also the first Band album I bought... plus all those great photos inside none of them labeled... I don't know why but I just can't think of the Band playing anything but dark nighttime shows... I empathize with statements I've read or heard where they did not feel that big outdoor gigs were right for them... but for me it's not the openness... it's the daylight...

I always liked Astral Weeks too... the photos and poem... and then the So Far painting... These things never hurt my eyes...

LPs are great too... but I have worn them all out from so much listening faster than I wear out my hoops shoes... For me you gotta be able to pop it into your car... although I agree there is some participatory pleasure in turning over the LP, wiping it clean with some of that juice, and touching down the needle...

Looking forward to the upcoming webcast...


Posted on Wed Mar 22 02:40:28 CET 2000 from host-209-214-22-210.mia.bellsouth.net (209.214.22.210)

Brian Kaz

From: Miami, FL

Rick Danko died of a stroke, due to possible high blood pressure. Visit JAM! MUSIC for info.


Posted on Wed Mar 22 01:23:09 CET 2000 from spider-th054.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.69)

butch

From: ulster county N.Y.

------UPDATE ON LEVON HELM/BARN BURNERS TOURDATES ------- ____________________________________________________________ Well, for those of you who have e-mailed me about tour dates for Levon & The Barn Burners, outside of the metropolitan area,, here are some dates,, ( confirmed ) for us,,, there might be other dates, they're just not confirmed yet,,, 4/26 charlotte N.C. 4/27 winder georgia 4/29 huntsville alabama 5/1 Little Rock Arkansas 5/3 Tulsa OK 5/4 fayetteville Arkansas 5/5 Eureka Springs, Arkansas 5/6 & 5/7 Memphis, Tn. ,,,,, & in the NY area,,, 3/31 Towne Crier Pawling NY 4/13 Tribeca Blues, NYC,,,,,,,,, 5/20 Stanhope House NJ,, 5/26 Turning Point, ,,Piermont NY thanks,,, Hope to see some of you out there,,,, butch


Posted on Wed Mar 22 00:34:00 CET 2000 from tcnet30-016.austin.texas.net (209.99.102.16)

Laura Holt

From: Austin, Texas

Just wonderin if Bob Dylan's song "Like a Rolling Stone" is about Andy Warhols factory girl Edie (did I spell her name right?) She was in many of his 8mm films back in the 60s before she killed herself by jumping out of a window in NYC .

From what I understand she and Bob had small romance going on briefly and if you listen to the words and if you know anything about Warhol (I know a fair amount) it does sound like Bob is talking about her relationship with Andy. A quote from the song "You rode on your crome horse with your diplomat ..who carried on his shoulders a siamese cat..and isn't it funny when you discover that your invisible now..no secrets to reveal" He also talks about "after he took everything from you he could steal". Warhol always said his mind was a blank and that people just filled it with their ideas...which made him tons of $$$!!

Maybe I am wrong. Some feedback on this would be great. Hello to acadianruby...don't worry girl...I'm gonna get that tape to you so you can see Ricky sing "When you awake" !

RIP Rick/Richard ..I love you and I'm so grateful to have the music that keeps you both alive in my soul!!!!


Posted on Tue Mar 21 23:30:44 CET 2000 from gdh2-142.twcny.rr.com (24.92.249.66)

Dr. Pepper

From: West Hurly once in a while

Speaking of gatefold album covers....this guy I know as Furn had a use for them as a tool to "clean" a particular item....kind of a sifting motion from what I can remember. Dr. John had a really cool album cover..it had "Right Place Wrong Time"...dont know the name of the LP. Now is it Broken Bone or Bone Break? Still waiting for the Photo, Bill!


Posted on Tue Mar 21 19:45:35 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Record Covers - It's true, something is lost with the smaller CD format, and I truly miss album art. In regard to Sgt. Peppers, I've always been fond of Zappa's parody of Sgt. Peppers used on "We're Only In It for the Money." Also, Blue Note's album covers are classics that I've always loved. You see that style copied quite a bit these days, but the originals are beautiful.


Posted on Tue Mar 21 19:44:49 CET 2000 from (208.48.227.98)

Radio Woodstock (Beki Brindle)

From: Radio Woodstock
Home page

Jim Weider & The Honky Tonk Gurus - Live Webcast - Saturday, March 25 on RadioWoodstock.com - 11 PM from the Joyous Lake, Woodstock, NY The URL for the webcast is: http://www.radiowoodstock.com/event/webcasts.html


Posted on Tue Mar 21 19:01:49 CET 2000 from du113-3.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.3.113)

Ilkka

From: Nordic Countries, Europe
Home page

About album covers.
Gossips, rumours, mysteries...there were many things we found in album covers. (Warning: these are not true!)
(1) If you turn John Wesley Harding album cover upside down you'll see John Lennons face in the tree.(2) Elliot Landy does not exist; he is Bob Dylan. Lan-dy = Dy-lan. Elliot comes from a poet named T.S. Eliot. The shoes you see in the studio picture are Dylan's shoes
(3) Want more proofs that Landy does not exist? Levon's coat in the brown cover is the same coat Dylan wears in the cover of Blond of blonde and Self Portrait albums, he only borrowed it to Levon standing in the rain.
(4) Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Band shows ... no, now it is time to stop. I say to you the same thing I say to my students: "Don't be as blue-eyed as I have been.""


Posted on Tue Mar 21 16:37:21 CET 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

Supratik: Thanks for the correction and additional info. Children can be SUCH as disappointment. As for the tabla/Garth business, I suspect I got the instrument wrong.

On the album cover question, I always found anything more elaborate than a gatefold a real pain in the neck. Hard to get to the side you want, hard to store, a pain to open, too many moving parts to protect, etc. I feel much the same way about CD boxed sets (of which I have none) - especially when they've spread 62 minutes of music across two 7-minute CDs just so they can ding you.

I think my very favourite LP jacket is Chris Barber's Petite Fleur as issued by Laurie in the US and distributed by Quality in Canada. I even picked up a spare at the Goodwill so I could hang it on the wall (though I never did).


Posted on Tue Mar 21 16:35:07 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.128)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Freddy Weller along with Jerry Reed, Ray Stevens, Joe South, Tommy Roe, Billy Joe Royal, The Tams, The Atlanta Rhythm Section and others share musical roots in Atlanta through their association with local recording magnate Bill Lowery. It was through Mr. Lowery's music publishing company, NRC Records and recording studio where they got start in the music business. Even the talented producer Felton Jarvis worked with Lowery before moving to Nashville to work and produce sessions for such legends as Elvis. When Rick Hall started his studio in nearby Muscle Shoals, just across the border in Alabama, Lowery lent a hand by sending some of his artists to record there. Mr. Lowery's influence in music continues to this day; when Garth Hudson recently worked with the Indigo Girls, he recorded sessions at Southern Tracks studios in Atlanta, which is co-owned by Lowery. Perhaps the spirit of rock & roll is best summed up in the words of a song that The Tams once recorded for Lowery: "Be young, be foolish but be happy."


Posted on Tue Mar 21 15:57:43 CET 2000 from pm2-21.delrio.com (208.246.52.142)

Just Wonderin'

From: Texas

I guess the bottom line for me with vinyl is although you might get better sound with cds I think you get more bang for your buck with lps. The cover art has value.

Also when I purchased the cd version of "The Music from Big Pink" the next of kin pic was missing. I was really glad I hadn't ditched the lp! Now I think I'll frame it.


Posted on Tue Mar 21 14:45:40 CET 2000 from icache-3.doit.wisc.edu (144.92.44.76)

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Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

From: Madison, Wisconsin.
Home page

Just wanted to say hello to all of you, and you know who you are, I'm still missing Rick Danko, hate to say this without sounding queer, but I have had dreams of him,,,good ones, I guess its a sign that hes visiting me in spirit!!!

All the LOVE, to the Danko Family, Jan, and 'Lil...


Posted on Tue Mar 21 11:18:24 CET 2000 from (202.86.129.123)

Supratik

From: India

Trust your ISP to screw when you need your connection most. Anyway better late than never. Firstly,thanks a lot to everybody who replied to my query about the Indian connections of the Band esp. mattk, Lee, Dag and Bill. Being a Bengali it's really fantasic to know that the guys had a connection with Baul songs.

For those who would like to know, Purna Das Baul is still alive ( just released an album a couple of days back ) and stays not far away from my place. The sad thing is not many young people nowadays like to listen to their music and consequently very few in their own communuty actually want to become Bauls. In a country where there is a tradition of music being handed down from father to son, Purna Das has often lamented that even his own sons do not want to be Bauls.

Bill : The Bauls usually play a one stringed instrument called the ektara ( ek-one + tara-string) besides some other instruments. The tabla is the classical Indian drum(actually there are two of them) and the Bauls never play it. If you're right about some tabla player influencing Garth then it is probably Alla Rakha the great Tabla maestro who passed away recently or his son Zakir Hussain who are the best known exponents of the instrument in the west. This is from someone who learnt the tabla for 4 yrs before wisely deciding to call quits.


Posted on Tue Mar 21 10:29:58 CET 2000 from du-tele3-029.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.29)

Peter Viney

Album covers: there are a few good 12" x 12" books of album covers, e.g. "The Album Cover Album" series runs to 5 or 6 volumes, there’s "The art of Blue Note", "Blues Album Covers", & the smaller format "1000 Album Covers" by Michael Ochs. I keep them with my albums. Some covers were so good that they made the album worth having more than the contents did. The first "It’s A Beautiful day" album is an example . It’s a Beautiful Day on CD doesn’t have the cover. It seems they only had a limited license for the art and it was not renewed. I’m a sucker for album art – I was very taken by the latest Eels cover (but I resisted buying the album). I also buy the odd 50s album from secondhand stores purely for the retro cover art.

Album cover books are unfortunately like the difference between erotic photos and sex. Nothing beats the feel of the thick card, the different textures of the sleeve printing, the fold outs, cutouts and legible notes. For Europeans, palmed off with thin card and glossy photo versions of originally matt American covers, US covers always had an extra charm. British covers were often bad. German, French, Spanish and Italian ones often looked like blurred Polaroid photos of the British ones.

And so to the Band, the Japanese CD reissues really do reproduce the individual slightly-dimpled texture of "The Band" cover, and the wrap-around posters on Moondog Matinee and Stage fright. If CD covers had always been like this, we wouldn’t complain. The Band benefited from Bob Cato and the first three covers, plus Moondog Matinee are all album cover hall of fame stuff. I don’t think any of their other albums have the same cover art class. "Cahoots" cover painting by Gilbert Stone is, I think, pretentious-trying-to-be-portentous, blurred, cliched … rather like at least one song on that album:-)

Bayou Sam asked "anybody got anymore." – the list would be long, but check out "Bandstand" by Family, "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" by Zappa, Ogden’s Nut Gone Flake by The Small Faces. The original "Catch-A-Fire" by The Wailers is a favourite (the lighter that opens), but was quickly replaced due to cost. Several British bands were consistently good, probably due to art school graduates in their ranks – Supertramp, Roxy Music, King Crimson, Family all come to mind. Little Feat’s series was superb. I even admire the 25 or 26 permutations Chicago have done with their logo, and Springsteen has some spectacularly strong simple images.


Posted on Tue Mar 21 06:34:50 CET 2000 from dial-12-19-113-168.rectec.net (12.19.113.168)

Ka-sin-ah-di

From: Wyandotte, Oklahoma

Nya-weh scan-noh. My name is Ka-sin-ah-di. Meaning Name over name. I'm of the Wolf clan of the Seneca's and set on the Northside of the longhouse. I'm Seneca/Cayuga/Mohawk/Creek. I speak on behalf of my cousin Nic-kia-ah-was meaning No water who also sets on the Northside of the longhouse and is of the Wolf clan. We were pleased to here the Women's Friendship Song on your tapes and CD's. We learned that song ourselves with the help of my Aunt(her mother)and other elders in "Our neck of the woods" in Oklahoma.We are very happy to hear thease songs. We are also glad that the Six Nations' voice can be heard. We would like to say "NYA-WEH" for making people aware how special the Six Nations really are. Nya-weh, Ka-sin-ah-di


Posted on Tue Mar 21 05:51:15 CET 2000 from proxy1-external.avnl1.nj.home.com (24.4.252.66)

Brien Sz

From: NJ

Couple things: Old Speakers rule! I have a pair of old Sanyo's wired up in my office. They crank great! They carry even further. Outside of the size they will stay with me for a very long time. Todays short stacks are nice But the oldies but goodies were made for rockin!

Second - Roy B. I haven't heard that name in a while and LDO is right - he is a phenom guitarist-very underrated. Had the honor of seeing him play as the opening act to Robin Trower in the early eighties. We sat (never forget it) 3rd row center aisle from the stage. You could see where Robin had cut himself shaving.

Thirdly-- I've grown tired of trying to find new music that holds my interest for more than one spin. So while walking out of a local record chain, i flipped through the cut outs and for some reason (i don't know why) i decided to pick up Johnny Cash's Greatest hits. Not bad But after hearing Folsom Prison Blues had to go out and pick up At Folsom Prison. What a treat and what an interesting album. It made me wonder if The Band or any of the guys ever hooked up with Johnny Cash and jammed. Seems like it would have been a fit. Anyway now i'm listening to Johnny Cash (it helps that i'm a baritone) and can sing along with with some of these beer swillin', fist fightin' songs. Some of the lyrics crack me up! But Folsom is definetly a thumbs up cd (ahhhhem album)


Posted on Tue Mar 21 04:43:09 CET 2000 from spider-wc054.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.44)

Bayou Sam

From: New York

The thing that has suffered the most with the demise of vinyl is the beauty of the album cover. You cannot appreciate a cover like Sgt Pepper for instance - not to mention the "jook joint" picture, on the little tiny CD size covers. I used to love putting on a new (or a new-old) album and sitting there reading and enjoying the cover while I listened. Now it's a battle to get the damn booklet out of the cd cover and it's a little tiny thing. I love the cd sound but I miss album covers. .........Some covers that the cd generation will never appreciate : Pepper, Satanic Majesties(Stones), Schools Out(Alice Cooper), most Santana covers, that Bee Gees one that was red felt, Magical Mystery Tour, Desareli Gears, Concert for Bangladesh, E Pluribus Funk(Grand Funk), Sticky Fingers, Some Girls. I could go on. Anybody got anymore?


Posted on Tue Mar 21 03:44:39 CET 2000 from pool0993.cvx9-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (209.178.179.228)

moos

From: Los Angeles

Forgot to tell you when, didn't I? This Wed. and Thurs. the 22, and 23 of March.


Posted on Tue Mar 21 03:28:08 CET 2000 from pool0566.cvx14-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (209.179.40.56)

moos

From: Los Angeles

Does anyone who reads this live in Los Angeles? If so I want to invite you to hear my band "Jump In The Water" play at Twin Palms in Pasadena. Twin Palms is on Green Street. Our record on Polygram, was produced by Jim Scott, who engineered Robertson's first. Hope nobody minds the self promotion. Please come up and say hello. I'm behind the piano, the one that's off on the edge of the stage, turned sideways, ofcorse.


Posted on Tue Mar 21 03:15:54 CET 2000 from alb2-as5200-31-79.termserv.net (208.20.67.79)

Diamond Lil

From: the turntable

All this talk about vinyl is like a stroll down memory lane for me. I still have quite an extensive collection of albums, and there's something very familiar and comfortable about the sound of them that I don't always get from casettes or cd's. I guess if you didn't grow up with vinyl, that's hard to understand. I suppose the albums that gave me the most happiness over the years are the ones that sound the worst for wear now, and in a way..that makes them endearing. And btw Ragtime..my first Brown album fell victim to a fate worse than a careless nephew. A dog with a nervous bladder :-)

Spring has nearly sprung here in crazyville. I know this because a bee was in my house today, forcing me outside until my 8 year old could come to my rescue and "squash" it. Time to stock up on 'Raid' I guess. I'm not only good at spraying the stinging suckers, but am also quite adept at bashing them with the can. Aah..the joy of spring at last :-)

Have a good night everyone.


Posted on Tue Mar 21 02:58:30 CET 2000 from pm3-143.efn.org (206.163.180.143)

deb

From: oregon


Hey all groupies and vinyl fans:

I have in my modest record collection one very unusual record: The Groupies, circa late 60s. It is interviews with rock groupies. Very enlightening and explicit but fascinating stuff.

Long live vinyl; there is nothing else like it!


Posted on Tue Mar 21 02:15:30 CET 2000 from spider-wi074.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.54)

Dennis

From: The forsythia (sp?) should be bloomin' by the end of this week here in West Saugerties,NY

BIG E-SCENE NEWS, but first, the latest invite: Wednesday, the Lake, yet another chapter. Should anyone need directions to Lee 'n the Barn Burners, please don't hesitate. A month or so ago, Jan added an interview from the Albany, NY newspaper that really laid the groundwork for this fascinating series of Wednesday night shows. If you can, as a fan you just might owe it to yourself to try and make one of these shows. Gosh, I have yet to figure out how to make a new paragraph, but here's the latest: the Guru's show this Saturday night is coming, via the net, to your home town! As of the latest, it's scheduled to be broadcast live on this medium on radio Woodstock, (I believe) www.wdst.com! Hope you'n yours can be part of this special Catskill evening...........


Posted on Tue Mar 21 01:02:39 CET 2000 from spider-syd-aa034.proxy.aol.com (202.67.64.144)

Sean

From: Melbourne

I noticed that I sent the same entry three times, I apologise. Why does my computer mock me so?


Posted on Mon Mar 20 23:45:02 CET 2000 from (192.135.209.8)

Roelof Baay

From: Exit 9

Listening to the Band confirms life is good...


Posted on Mon Mar 20 23:24:01 CET 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

David's evocation of Tommy Roe reminded me of the time, somewhere in the late '60s, when I saw Tommy on some early Saturday afternoon TV show. I guess he was there to sing "Dizzy" or "Jam Up and Jelly Tight" or something. Anyhow, he also sang a song that he said he written Freddy Weller, who I knew only as a Raider.


Posted on Mon Mar 20 22:58:06 CET 2000 from du-tele3-010.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.10)

Peter Viney

Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues (the version issued as the B side of the I Want You single) was recorded live on May 14th 1966 at the Odeon Theatre Liverpool. This has remained unavailable as an official release except on the triple CD set "Masterpieces", though the same performance appeared on many bootlegs (e.g. Bob Dylan & The Hawks Play F*cking Loud). On early bootlegs it was taken straight off the vinyl single complete with surface noise and stylus drop. The "Play …Loud" bootleg has four tracks from the Liverpool show, and it sounds pretty close to the "Masterpieces" version. Garth was on great form that night, and the interplay between Garth & Robbie during RR’s solo is a wonder that I hope we’ll one day hear again. Richard’s piano is audible – on so much 1966 material it’s hardly there.

Illka brings up a good point. The equipment we listen to CD on is probably much better than the set-up we might have had in 1969 or 1970 – I mean the amp, the speakers, the connects and so on. You need to compare vinyl through a good amp and speakers, not compare an ancient 1969 vinyl-based system with a new CD system. A friend of mine had a Dansette with external speaker with its own 2 or 3 watt amplifier. He used to have the left on full treble and the right on full bass, imagining that to be true stereo.

Having said that, in spite of all the hype on modern speakers, I resurrected a pair of mid to late 70s speakers that had been in the attic for more than ten years. They were AR18s, the reference for the "average budget bookshelf speaker" in late 70s British studios. I put them in a set-up with other retired equipment (one more room with audio), and you know they sound great. Don’t throw out old hi-fi, wire up another room, is my policy. BUT of course your hearing is steadily deteriorating at the high end, so maybe you need better stuff.

Spooky Tooth covered "The Weight" on their first album. Luther Grosvenor changed his name to Aerial Bender and Gary Wright became a solo star.


Posted on Mon Mar 20 22:27:38 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

From: only one place-kboom-place-kboom-place-kboom-that was meant for me

Ilkka:

Let me tell you something about my first Brownie after my little nephew had borrowed it... It went like this:

Across the Great Div-kboom-Div-kboom-Div-kboom-Div-tchak-take that ride-kboom-ride-kboom-ride-tchak-self a bri-kboom-bri-kboom-bri-kboom-and bring your chil-kboom...

Need I say more...? That's why I don't own my very first copy any more...


Posted on Mon Mar 20 22:14:32 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.128)

David Powell

From: Georgia

As Sean mentioned, Tim Drummond did indeed play with James Brown. Drummond got the opportunity to play with JB after several members of his regular band abruptly left in a dispute over compensation and fines levied by "the hardest working man in show business."

The list of people that Drummond has played with is too extensive to mention here in detail. He has recorded & toured with the virtual who's who in rock including Dylan, Neil Young (as part of the Stray Gators), J.J. Cale and Ry Cooder, just to name a few.

Diamond Lil: That's not me in the "Rock Record" book. I do know that there's a fellow Georgian by the same name who did some of the artwork on the classic "Eat A Peach" album cover for the Allman Brothers Band.


Posted on Mon Mar 20 21:49:58 CET 2000 from pm1-66.delrio.com (208.246.52.86)

Just Wonderin'

llkka: Cd's don't smell the same either when you open them. Remember that sweet smell when you slit the shrinkwrap especially on a Band lp? Oooh the anticipation! Oh for the good old days of Rock and Roll!


Posted on Mon Mar 20 20:56:08 CET 2000 from spider-wj012.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.22)

Retired Groupie

From: Greenwich Village, New York

If anyone could get in touch with Luther Grosvenour, I would like to tell him that he is in the original movies GROUPIES 1970. I also would like to take this opportunity to tell him that the beautiful groupie, Diane Shea that he was with, died at the age of 24 in California. She was an artist and a sensitive soul. Much more than just a groupie and she is also on the tape. Remember, Spooky Tooth at the Fillmore East. Great site. Thanks for putting it out. Anyone wanna chat with me, feel free. Bye!


Posted on Mon Mar 20 20:04:55 CET 2000 from du17-249.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.249.17)

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Ilkka

From: always the first to be one step behind
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When "Music from Big Pink" was released in the end of the sixties I had it as a "long playing record". What is that? - preheat your owen to maximum and put a pizza in it, wait an hour or two, make a hole of 7 mm in the middle and you'll get something which look like a LP record.

LPs were packaged in a cover. Inside of that cover there was an envelope. Inside of that envelope there was a vinyl record. That envelope is one of the most under rated things in the history of the Rock. The envelope could have the following text. If a die-hard vinyl man - say David Powell for instance - called me in the middle of the night I could remember the following text without any hesitating:

RECORDS, WHOSE LABELS BEAR THE WORDS STEREOPHONIC OR STEREO MUST BE PLAYED WITH A PICKUP DESIGNED FOR STEREOPHONIC RECORDS USING A SAPPHIRE OR DIAMOND STYLUS WITH A TIP RADIUS OF BETWEEN .0005 AND .0007 INCH.

LPs were very fragile. When I listened to my Brown (left channel - a Philips radio from the fifties) it could sound like this:

The night (scrtzzz) they drove (tzzzck) they drove (tzzzck) they drove (tzzzck)-(brrrrgz)-and the people were singing...

The right channel came thru my bass amplifier. It sounded like this:

Mme mmight mmey mmove mmole MMimmie mmowm...

So if I hear this music from a CD it doesn't sound really real!

You understand? Guess not :-)


Posted on Mon Mar 20 19:06:23 CET 2000 from dialin-238.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net (216.179.14.72)

Gene

From: Dutchess County

Thanks for the heads up, David Powell, I have that Bob Dylan 45 "I Want You" bw "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" (Columbia 4-43683). Hadn't listened to it in MANY years, however. Ni


Posted on Mon Mar 20 18:24:56 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.128)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Occasionally I go through my stacks of vinyl records and check out recordings that I haven't listened to in a while. This past weekend I rediscovered a couple of gems with Band connections.

Add Freddy Weller to the list of artists who have recorded covers of Band songs. The talented singer/guitarist from Atlanta, Georgia first gained wide exposure as a member of Paul Revere and the Raiders from 1967 to 1971. Those of us in his hometown were already familiar with him as a member of Billy Joe Royal's band and his session work at Bill Lowery's studio. Although he seemed over-qualified to be a Raider, that group was very commercially successful at that time (one of the first rock groups signed by Columbia) and Freddy used the opportunity as a stepping stone in his career. After leaving the Raiders in the early '70s he recorded several albums on Columbia and established a moderately successful solo career in country music.

His album "Listen To The Young Folks" contains a cover of "Up On Cripple Creek." With his country accent, Freddy's voice sounded like a cross between fellow Georgians Bill Anderson and Gram Parsons. As a fine lead guitar player, he was one of the first artists to use one of Clarence White & Gene Parsons's B-stringbender guitars. Although his albums were promoted as country and played on country music stations, he was among the vanguard of musicians to add the cross-over influence of rock to traditional country.

Freddy's fine version of "Up On Cripple Creek" is pretty faithful to the original but he adds tasty stringbender guitar turn-a-rounds in place of Garth's "black box" clavinet part. The album, as a whole, still stands up after almost thirty years. Other highlights include two songs written by fellow Atlantan Joe South ("Down In The Boondocks" & "Children), a version of Merle Haggard's "Okie From Muskogee", and a cover of Kris Kristofferson's "Sunday Morning Comin' Down." The album closes with the excellent song "Amarillo, Texas", written by Freddy along with Tommy Roe.

In the early to mid "70s, several songs recorded by Freddy would get air play on country music radio stations. These songs included covers of Gene Clark's "Roadmaster", Joe South's "Games People Play" and Chuck Berry's "Promised Land."

Another gem I listened to this past weekend was this 45 version of "Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues" that Dylan recorded with the Hawks in Liverpool (?) in 1966. The sound of the 45 (the flip side of "I Want You") is far superior to that of the CD version that was included on the import "Masterpieces" 3-CD set. The sonics are warmer & smoother and you can hear Richard's electric piano clearer. This is a great recording with one of my favorite guiatr solos of all time.


Posted on Mon Mar 20 17:20:16 CET 2000 from spider-tl054.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.199)

Long Distance Operator

From: Mass

It's great to read some Roy Buchanan banter going around in the guestbook. I've recently yanked my copy of "Live Stock" out of the archives and have been listening to it religiously for the last 2 weeks. Absolutely PHENOMENAL live record! If you are not initiated, by all means go down to the nearest store and pick it up. I found it for $8.99 brand new! Roy B. is the most criminally underrated guitarist of all time. Peace all. -LDO


Posted on Mon Mar 20 15:39:04 CET 2000 from spider-wg041.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.36)

butch

From: ulster county, n.y.

well folks,,,, another week, another wednesday with the Barn Burners,, Levon, Chris, Amy, Pat, Frankie & NOW,,, "THE SCHTEIN " on piano,, a great addition,,, come ck him out,,,, $ 10, 10 pm,,, wednesday,,, i will post the TOUR DATES, this week, also,,,IF youre interested,,, This Saturday,, by POPULAR DEMAND,,,, JIM WEIDER & THE GURUS,,, @ The Joyous Lake,,,, jimmy, randy, Mal, & jeremy, put on a smokin show,,, BUT THE BARN BURNERS are wednesday,,,, see ya @ both shows,,,, stay strong,,, butch


Posted on Mon Mar 20 07:20:24 CET 2000 from spider-syd-aa024.proxy.aol.com (202.67.64.139)

Sean

From: Melbourne

Pat, I think the Ronnie Hawkins sessions you were referring to were released by Atlantic in 1970 under the title Ronnie Hawkins. The album was recorded in Muscle Shoals. However I could be wrong please let me know.


Posted on Mon Mar 20 07:15:40 CET 2000 from spider-syd-aa042.proxy.aol.com (202.67.64.147)

Sean

From: Melbourne

Pat, I think the Ronnie Hawkins recordings you are referring to were released on Atlantic records in 1970. The album was called Ronnie Hawkins and was recorded at Muscle Shoals with Duane Allman on guitar. Recently purcharsed the Roy Buchanan anthology. In the sleeve notes are some comments by RR. It's a fantastic cd with an awesome live version of Neil Young's Down by The River. There is also some material from his unreleased debut album which was produced by Charlie Daniels. Roy was truly a great guitarist


Posted on Mon Mar 20 07:10:41 CET 2000 from proxy-373.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.73)

Bob Wyman

From: Colorado
Home page

Hi all! This is to let you know I have finally managed to put another picture of Rick on my homepage. This one is with my wife Nancy. Have a look! Peace Bob


Posted on Mon Mar 20 07:10:43 CET 2000 from spider-syd-aa042.proxy.aol.com (202.67.64.147)

Sean

From: Melbourne

Pat, I think the Ronnie Hawkins recording your referring to is 'Ronnie Hawkins' which was released on Atlantic in 1970, Duane Allman played guitar on the session which was recorded down at Muscle Shoals. Recently purchased Roy Buchanan anthology, in the sleeve notes is some comments from RR. The album is excellent with a fantastic live version of Neil Young's Down by The River. There are also some cuts from his unreleased debut album produced by Charlie Daniels. Roy was truly a great guitarist.


Posted on Mon Mar 20 04:47:59 CET 2000 from user-33qt8sn.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.163.151)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Didn't Ronnie Hawkins have a new album out on Epic around the time he played with Cocker at the Fillmore? I seem to recall the ads. That would make his appearance there much more likely as part of a promo push. Also, that extremely rare Dylan album seems to have been pulled from ebay.


Posted on Mon Mar 20 04:09:14 CET 2000 from ip166.buffalo9.ny.pub-ip.psi.net (38.26.214.166)

Gary

From: Buffalo

Bill, I just checked out the Fillmore East book at Barnes & Noble. Nice catch finding Sandy Konikoff in the photo. Its interesting to note that in the back of the book there is a list of all the shows and who played them. On the night that Joe Cocker and Mad Dogs & Englishmen played one of the other acts on the bill was Ronnie Hawkins. Coincidence? later.....gary P.S. to all the other Guest Book regulars I have been reading here everyday and I find many of the comments quite informative. With all the collective knowledge here you all will keep the spirit of the band alive....


Posted on Mon Mar 20 03:54:19 CET 2000 from rn248-156.resnet.uoguelph.ca (131.104.248.156)

Katie

From: Canada

Just thought that I would leave a little piece of immortaility, maybe my parents will stumble upon this, and remember that they raised a kid who has wonderful taste in music. I'm 21 and have known The Band for as long as I can remember. I'd just like to thank my parents for enriching me in this way.


Posted on Mon Mar 20 02:23:07 CET 2000 from general.american.genam.com (208.209.229.251)

Greg Turnbo

From: Missouri
Home page

The new Fu Munchu cd has been released on Feb. 15. This cd is great and I think you should check it out. The title of the cd is "King of the Road."


Posted on Sun Mar 19 19:05:33 CET 2000 from p444-61.ppp.get2net.dk (195.47.128.189)

Aud Irming

From: Denmark
Home page

I lost my album "Music from Big Pink" and cannot get it anywhere, can you guide me?

I can't live without it. Why is this band so nice? Music that sticks to your being for a lifetime!

Like the Site very much.

Best wishes
Aud Irming


Posted on Sun Mar 19 03:11:44 CET 2000 from alb1-as5200-29-29.termserv.net (208.20.67.29)

Diamond Lil

Mr. Powell: I have this huuuuge directory here of rock albums/musicians called "Rock Record"...and was wondering if the David Powell mentioned in it is you? Just a curiosity question I suppose. Thanks.

Thought I'd mention that I listened to "Jubilation" approximately 20 times this afternoon, as I shampooed my carpet and got trapped on the side of the room where the cd player wasn't. Kind of nice though that I enjoyed it as much the last time as I did the first time. Of course, now I can probably sing each and every song backwards :-)

Getting annoyed at the sound of a dog barking outside here now. And since it's my dog, I suppose I should go let her in. Wouldn't want to be run out of crazyville for being a thoughtless neighbor. Have a good night everyone. Hug Jan.


Posted on Sun Mar 19 01:07:03 CET 2000 from abd07ba4.ipt.aol.com (171.208.123.164)

Tim Flaherty

From: Evergreen,Co formerly Hoffman Estates Il

I've just found this site so i haven't had a chance to look around yet but i'll be back


Posted on Sat Mar 18 22:39:59 CET 2000 from (204.145.129.131)

Anthony Clinton LaMantia

From: Braunau-Am-Inn, Austria
Home page

Frankly, I can't even believe it myself, it's AMAZING! AH-HA


Posted on Sat Mar 18 19:09:23 CET 2000 from spider-tq012.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.47)

Pacific46

From: SF Bay Area

Just caught up on some of this past week's entries. Pat Brennan, you brought back great memories. We caught the CS&N concert at the Fillmore East. The first set was all acoustic. Then the lights went out and it seemed as if we were in for maybe one encore. Instead, a whole new psychedelic set appeared with Neil Young and CS&N plugged in. FABULOUS surprise!!! Soon afterwards the CSNY,Taylor & Reeves LP came out. And yes, I guess that was the night we'd also gone to see Joni Mitchell. She was about an hour late -- ironically a big yellow taxi took forever to get her there, or so she explained. Once she warmed up to a very forgiving audience who smothered her with dozens of red roses, we were treated to a beautiful, humble, pure side of her that made the music all the more personal. What a night! To those who are fed up with winter, spring's on its way. All our leaves suddenly appeared overnight. Must have been those leprechauns!


Posted on Sat Mar 18 17:00:24 CET 2000 from stk-pm1-50-178.dialup.slip.net (207.171.230.178)

Guenevere

Gee, I come back here to find that the Guest Book is positively discomboomerated...

Pat B. Dishing out compliments to Crabgrass...

Diamond Lil saying that life would be boring if we only talked about The Band...

If you remember, I prophesied that the aliens would be coming to the Guest Book back in September, and now that they've finally landed here to discuss the ‘Rock Prophesy Time Line', I hope you can all give them your respect!


Posted on Sat Mar 18 12:35:35 CET 2000 from spider-syd-aa032.proxy.aol.com (202.67.64.142)

Sean

From: Melbourne

Concerning Tim Drummond the session bass player, he also played on Roy Buchanan's unreleased debut album The Prophet. Roy played for a short time with Ronnie Hawkins and also passed on some tips to a young Robbie. Tim Drummond was also the first white member of James Brown's backing band.


Posted on Sat Mar 18 12:06:53 CET 2000 from cw03.b1.srv.t-online.de (212.185.252.3)

RAIK HABERHAUFFE

From: BERLIN/GERMANY

Dear friends, I WAS VERY SAD TO HEAR THAT RICK DANKO PASSED AWAY . WELL,IT'S ABOUT 4 MONTHS AGO,BUT... . RICK(!) WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOU !!! KEEP ON ROCKING FOLKS, IF POSSIBLE . MY CONDOLATIONS TO HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS : BEST WISHES FROM RICK


Posted on Sat Mar 18 07:38:57 CET 2000 from pr-cache.theramp.net (207.56.9.246)

Julie Allicks

From: Illinois

The Band is the most under rated band of all time. Robbie Robertson is a brilliant song writer. The Last Waltz is one of my favorite movies and Chest Fever is one of my favorite songs.


Posted on Sat Mar 18 05:12:00 CET 2000 from r-53.77.alltel.net (166.102.53.77)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

Does anyone know anything about The Chicken Coop in Barchester (Ohio?) mentioned by Alan Freed on, I believe, a 1952 radio show?


Posted on Sat Mar 18 02:43:55 CET 2000 from 209-130-140-68.nas2.mon.gblx.net (209.130.140.68)

Lars

From: Upstate NY

On Sun, 3/19, Joyous Lake has the Curmudgeons (with former touring member of the Band Jimmy Eppard) playing. I hope they play "A Dog's Life" and with any luck we could (please?) hear some Band songs. The last time Jimmy played I asked him for a Band song and he did a GREAT "King Harvest" (not one of their easier songs to perform).

On a whole different subject, a toast tonight to the memory of John Pelham, who we lost on March 17, '63.


Posted on Sat Mar 18 02:08:47 CET 2000 from (209.167.110.195)

Here we go again...

Here's another hustler with too much time on his hands...


Posted on Sat Mar 18 00:49:01 CET 2000 from rochb107-02.splitrock.net (209.156.165.232)

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Details about the "removal" of Jimi Hendrix were the subject of the 1993-94 Scotland Yard investigation instigated by me. The implications are preserved in a new book: Rock Prophecy: Sex & Jimi Hendrix in World Religions -the Original Asteroid Prediction and Microsoft Connection. www.rockprophecy.com Rock Prophecy is the original trigger for an avalanche of asteroid stories in recent media. The silencing of the seers, the retarding of history, humanity's advance set back - defenseless against the Rock. Get the Newest Testament - the bane of dominators - an Unmillennium for the Murderers of Earth. Remember when Robbie Robertson narrated the Feb. 1998 National Geographic primetime NBC special Asteroids: Deadly Impact - sponsored by Microsoft? He never realized his complicity with the Murderers of Earth...Forgive them Jimi - they know not what they do... www.firstcenturypress.com


Posted on Sat Mar 18 00:24:08 CET 2000 from pool-209-138-159-26-ipls.grid.net (209.138.159.26)

Bobby Jones

From: C - bus

Hey Mike.- Give a shout out to Marty S. ( he used to set up Levons Drums. )


Posted on Fri Mar 17 23:31:03 CET 2000 from spider-to026.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.14)

bayou sam

From: New York (not south Loozzianne)

To Mike from Oregon. I've got a great book called "The Big Beat - conversations with rock's great drummers" written in 1984 by Max Weinberg (Springsteens drummer). Being a drummer myself I had to get this book. Max does little interviews with people like Ringo, Hal Blaine, Charlie Watts, Jim Keltner, just to name a few - and Levon Helm. They talk some history and they do touch on recording and the sound that Levon wanted and acheived. One of my favorite Levon observations is this: "A drummer has to be really careful because his instrument sounds the worst if he's not. You know, it sounds like somebody dropped the kitchen stove if you don't watch out." I always loved that. I'd be happy to copy it and send it to you if you'd like. I don't know if you can find the book anymore but it would be worth getting if you like these drummers. It's also done by a drummer which makes it even better.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 22:05:18 CET 2000 from ti50a95-0129.dialup.online.no (130.67.50.129)

jh

Nicker,
The movie, from 1998, is called The Adventures of Sebastian Cole, see the Levon Helm filmography.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 21:36:48 CET 2000 from turner-311.megalink.net (209.222.98.229)

Nicker

Just saw a preview for a movie, something about a" Sebastion guy", and before my tierd eyes was Levon and his ball cap saying something funny. Does anyone know what this is about?


Posted on Fri Mar 17 20:54:57 CET 2000 from flowbie2-outside.csc.com (192.251.173.34)

Luke

From: Philly 'burbs

One more link beteween CSNY and the Band. Graham Nash was on a TV show (can't remember which one) a few years ago and The Band came up. Nash's comment was "The Band, they were the greatest group ever!". Viva Nash!


Posted on Fri Mar 17 20:43:01 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.248)

David Powell

From: Georgia

From the Department of Vinyl Siding, more on Neil Young's 1980 Reprise album "Hawks & Doves." Accompanying Neil on the song "The Old Homestead" are Levon Helm on drums and Tim Drummond on bass. Mr. Drummond has been the subject of discussion here in the guestbook many times before. He is credited with writing the song "I Want To Lay Down Beside You" on Tracy Nelson's 1972 Reprise album "Tracy Nelson / Mother Earth." This same song later appeared as "Sip The Wine" on Rick Danko's 1977 solo album released on Clive Davis's Arista label. Tim Drummond also played bass on several other songs on that album.

The aforementioned Tracy Nelson album has several other Band connections. It contains three songs written by Bobby Charles ["I'm That Way", "Tenneesee Blues", and "(Staying Home and Singing) Homemade Songs"], a song by John Hiatt ("Thinking of You") and two songs by Eric Kaz ["Mother Earth (Provides For Me)" and "Someday My Love May Grow"]. Mr. Kaz co-wrote the classic "Love Has No Pride" along with Libby Titus. That song has been recorded by numerous artists, including Linda Ronstadt and Tracy Nelson.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 19:20:01 CET 2000 from cobalt.nextlink.net (206.129.70.172)

Mike

From: Oregon

In all of the different interviews and articles published over the years, are there any with Levon explaining his specific or individual drum settings and preferences? I have his drum video, but he doesn't go into detail about what type of heads, tuning specifics, cymbals used, etc. Just wondering. If any of you have info regarding this -- maybe you've been up close at shows -- please either e-mail me, or drop a line here...Drummers out there may want to know. Thanks.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 19:14:37 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int02.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.68)

Bones

From: CT

If anyone is interested in reading some fascinating history of the Band/Dylan and in particular Robbie Robertson circa '73-'75 check out the new biography on David Geffen called The Operator.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 18:05:47 CET 2000 from du-tele3-120.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.120)

Peter Viney

Check out the latest "Isis" for a full three page review of the Sydney 66 bootleg, "Tales of A Mexican Painter", which seems to be an alternative version of "First time around" (see discography on the site) The review is written by C.P. Lee – who did the definitive 66 tour book.

Charlie: I was six years out in my estimate! I’m surprised the Bee Gees got in the HOF that early, but I saw a long documentary on them last year and by the end I had to admit that song after song was first-rate, and there were a lot of them. They’re the sort of group you’re always pleased to hear on the car radio without really thinking who they are. I think they always had an image problem. They were sartorially-challenged at several points in their career. Their image wasn’t helped by an interview I saw with Robin Gibb about the song "Massachussetts" where he was asked about the title. He said it was a lovely word, and he’d been amazed to find (AFTER writing it) that it was an American state on the East coast. More recently, the TV documentary revealed way more teenage bad behaviour than (e.g. Oasis). That might have helped their R&R image, I guess.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 17:22:20 CET 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

From: Toronto

A visit to a local bookstore last night turned up a couple of things. One is as a large-format photo book about the Fillmore East about by Amelie Rothchild (sp?). Has one shot of the Band onstage in '70, and, of greater interest to me, one of ex-Hawk Sandy Konikoff onstage with the rest of Joe Cocker with Mad Dogs and Englishmen. (Sandy's the guy with the tambourine.)

The book also has a handy-dandy listing of who played on what night, which confirms that Ronnie Hawkins And Many Others (the future Crowbar) opened for Cocker for two nights in March '70. I was told years ago by a former Crowbar sound guy that Hawkins froze on stage the first night, what with Dylan and the Band and a bunch of other rock celebs in the audience, and had to be 'rescued' by AMO singer John Rutter (previously known as Johnny Rhythm of the Suedes), who sort of vamped something until Ronnie could get on track. Said to be the real subject of "Stage Fright".

The other book I found, and the one I actually bought, was London Live by Tony Bacon. A fabulous collection of posters, clippings, photos and text about the London (UK) music scene from skiffle to punk. Haven't stumbled upon a direct Band link yet, but a whole bunch of people that people on this list care about are well represented.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 16:15:50 CET 2000 from spider-wi084.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.59)

bob wigo

From: havertown,pa.

I, for one, am tired of listening to "your case" Crabgrass.I'm certain there must be other venues for your adolescent sarcasm and ill-timed cheap shots. Your lofty perception of the value of your commentary is ample evidence of your inability to see beyond your jaded little world.The view as you look down your nose is surely limiting your scope.The bone you pick is bare.Try the Chatroom at Bottomfeeders.com. If you need an alias try "Boreass".


Posted on Fri Mar 17 11:31:37 CET 2000 from du12-250.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.250.12)

Ilkka

From: Paysages Van Gogh

To Yaya/Joni Mitchell: an answer to your guote of poor Vincent: Actually, everybody did :-(


Posted on Fri Mar 17 10:07:04 CET 2000 from spider-wb053.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.173)

Yaya

From: Happy St. Patricks Day
Home page

Thank you Cupid,the Jimi Hendrix Books say it all...... : )..... and to respond to an older post : Band songs that need improvement? a quote from Joni Mitchell: Did any one ever ask Vincent Van Gogh to Paint another Starry Night again ??? " Enjoy. Top o the day to you all. YAYA


Posted on Fri Mar 17 07:50:42 CET 2000 from ts1-39.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.39)

Cupid

Crabgrass. Everything you said about Jimi Hendrix was correct except he did not use Heroin.That is a common mistake.The night he died he'd ingested far too many sleeping pills,brought them back up but was so sedated he didn't wake up.His airway was cleared and he was wheeled to the ambulance in an up right position he was sick again in the ambulance and as he was sitting up could not get it out .Had he been laid on his side and his airway properly cleared he'd most likely still be with us.Cupid


Posted on Fri Mar 17 07:08:10 CET 2000 from 1cust254.tnt12.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.136.254)

Damon Z

From: The Island

The hell with genres! A good song is a good song is a good song the way I hear it! And the Bee Gees are excellent songwriters indeed whether it's "Stayin' Alive," "Nights On Broadway," or any of the other 50 or so hits they've had. And disco songs like Donna Summer's "She Works Hard for the Money" and Michael Sembello's "Maniac" are also top notch compositions. Even McCartney had a disco hit with "Silly Love Songs" although it wasn't quite as good as the others I've mentioned. In fact, as much as I like McCartney, I'd say "YMCA" by the Village People is a better disco song.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 05:32:52 CET 2000 from user-33qtaco.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.169.152)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

A couple of notes. CS&N never really toured as a trio in support of their first album. Neil was on the first tour but would let the trio perform a bunch of acoustic tunes before he came on stage. The second electric half of the show proved awfully noisy with all them guitars strumming at the same time. BTW, Joni Mitchell opened. Also, it's good to see John Platania's name again. I always enjoyed his playing behind Van Morrison. Hate to say it, but the BeeGee's were pretty good in the 60's and early 70's. And I really enjoyed myself listening to Cahoots the other day. Volcano, Smoke Signal, 4% Pantomine, Last of the Blacksmiths, Carnival, Masterpiece. Go ahead and don't like it--it's your loss.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 04:33:34 CET 2000 from 2cust33.tnt12.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.137.33)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

The official cause of the late great Jimi Hendrix' death was "Asphyxiation" since he choked on his own vomit. What caused the vomiting, however, was Jimi's unfortunate use of and addiction to heroin. They don't call it "The Killer Drug" for nothing.

I rest my case.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 03:22:10 CET 2000 from spider-wd084.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.189)

Arnie Lanceter

If you like Dylan and The Band chances are excellent that you'll like Peter Stone Brown ( check out his articles on Danko and Manuel in the Library ). Very highly recommended. If you've read his articles and posts you already know he's extremely knowledgable and writes well ( to say the least ). He'll be in New York this Saturday. See him at Sun Music Company 340 East 71st Street ( between 1st and 2nd Avenues ) New York NY Phone 212 - 396 - 9521 I also recommend buying his album/cd Up Against It. You won't regret it.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 02:55:14 CET 2000 from trt-on59-44.netcom.ca (216.123.102.44)

John Donabie

Just read the link to the "official cause" of Rick's death that has just been released. The way I see it...stroke or heart attack.....it all lead to the same results. At least the family knows the official reason now; but I'm sure it's of no more comfort.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 02:21:47 CET 2000 from mail.theathletesfoot.com (63.65.229.83)

Jack Cowart

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of Lawrence Ferlenghetti's version of The Lord's Prayer that he rectited at The Last Waltz?


Posted on Fri Mar 17 01:35:26 CET 2000 from svcr-adsl-216-37-220-133.epix.net (216.37.220.133)

Kevin Gilbertson

From: NE PA

Don't know if this is old news but here's a link that claims the official cause of Rick's death was Stroke. It's the 1st official thing I've seen.

http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/mar16_danko.html


Posted on Fri Mar 17 01:20:40 CET 2000 from spider-ta062.proxy.aol.com (152.163.205.72)

Beth R.

From: Chicago sort-of

..as for the BeeGees, they are a lot more than just disco. They've got about 20 albums dating back to the 60's, and most people in the music business respect the BeeGees due to their proficiency. They're much more than just the easy target they seem to be in some people's mind. I think they have more albums than The Who for example, so they have done a lot. If you looked into their music catalog, I think there are many, many songs that people would love, but can't get past admitting that they like the BeeGees. --Beth


Posted on Fri Mar 17 00:53:06 CET 2000 from ns1.schuster.com (199.105.252.66)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

Peter: alas, the BeeGees were ALREADY inducted into the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame--in 1997! I can name a dozen true ROCK'N'ROLL acts who should have been inducted before those guys were even considered, but so it goes. Hell, the Monkees and Paul Revere and the Raiders produced more Rock'n'Roll records than the BeeGees...


Posted on Fri Mar 17 00:05:38 CET 2000 from du-tele3-015.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.15)

Peter Viney

Bones: Right. I forgot "Hawks and Doves". "On The Beach" has long been unavailable – I thought the vinyl was also hard to find, hence the silly second-hand price (£50 last time I saw one). I’ve seen them both on CD but they looked like pirates to me (I don’t think they can call themselves "bootlegs" when they simply replicate an album)

Jan- as a daily reader of everything on "What’s New" I can only assume I went into Rip Van Winkle mode on January 20th!

Crabgrass- the whole jam session was cut from TLW, wasn’t it?

Bill: P.P. Arnold & Manassas – thanks for the info. Will play it this evening.

R&R Hall of fame & 70s Disco: no praise, no blame intended, but I suspect The Bee Gees must be contenders for circa 2003 to 2004.


Posted on Fri Mar 17 00:05:57 CET 2000 from spider-wj083.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.58)

Ben Turkel

Excuse me for mis-spelling Randy's last name. The interview with him on this site goes into some detail about his touring with Eric Andersen. An interesting topic for discussion here may be some of the Band-related performers who spent time around Woodstock and/or recorded for Bearsville records. Bobby Charles, Jessie Winchester and Paul Butterfield's Better Days come to mind.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 23:55:35 CET 2000 from spider-wj083.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.58)

Ben Turkel

From: New Jersey

Those Neil Young cd's that David Powell mentioned are actually bootlegs which I believe were copied from vinyl (The Band's 'Hollywood bowl' boot cd was also copied from vinyl) so you should hold onto your vinyl copies until they're officially released on cd. Eric Andersen also has several albums that (to my knowledge)haven't been released on cd. There was an excellent self titled album from around 1970 and a few albums from the 80's that were recorded in Norway. Randy Ciarlente may appear on these as he toured for a few years with Andersen during this period.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 22:45:45 CET 2000 from ts1-16.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.16)

Doug Smith

Knockin' lost john: I presume it's me your talking about in your post regarding "Young People".Obviously not all young people are responsible for the resurgance of disco[you'll notice i also mentioned movie makers]but they are in the best position to stop it as they are the record industries target market.We wouldn't have these cheesey no talent acts poncing about if these youngsters steered clear of them and headed for The Band[as an example] bin at the record store instead.Sadly this is unrealistic as the publicity machines behind a Brittney Spears or a Backstreet Boys is just too big and all encompassing.They simply will not be denied.If i offended i'm sorry.By the way at 27 you arn't really in the target crowd i was talking about i'm thinking mid teens to early twenties.There is of course exceptions to this as well,my friend Molly is a prime example.Peace Cupid


Posted on Thu Mar 16 22:31:19 CET 2000 from spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.202)

bob wigo

From: havertown,pa.

Sometimes it's best to just tear it all out and re-sod.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 22:15:14 CET 2000 from 2cust15.tnt11.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.133.143)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

It's my guess that it was Robbie's decision to cut Stephen Stills from The Last Waltz in order to showcase the dynamic Neil Diamond whose new album he had just produced. Of course, I could be wrong - he may have just wanted to include more close-ups of himself in lieu of including Stills.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 22:04:45 CET 2000 from spider-wg083.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.58)

Don Pugatch

From: Roswell, Ga

Just to keep up with follow Napster users, there is another site called imesh, very similar and interesting, because with other members of this community, some different songs to download. FYI, on the search last night, I did pick up using "River" Robbies, tune from his first CD. Also, if you try Neil Young or Bob Dylan, you pick pick up some of the "Last Waltz" songs.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 20:30:29 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.248)

David Powell

From: Georgia

The Band / Neil Young connection raises another sore point: "On The Beach" and "Hawks and Doves" have still not been issued on CD in the U.S. and are available only by special order (double the domestic price) imports. Just another example of why I still cling to vinyl LPs.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 20:06:12 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int01.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.67)

Bones

From: CT

Peter Viney: Don't forget that Levon also played drums on "The Old Homestead" off Neil Young's Hawks and Doves record. Stephen Stills also was present and played at the Last Waltz though it was not shown in the movie or on the record.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 19:59:08 CET 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

Supratik, Matt and Lee: I too have the Bengali Bauls LP, and it’s one of my favourites. If it was available on CD, I’d be listening to it at work instead of The Bauls of Bengal: Traditional Folk Songs of India(Legacy CD 429) – which I’d still recommend. Not at all boring, and only sad in the sense that some of the songs are on the mournful side - not that I understand the language.

As for how the music may have influenced the Band, I can only refer to a vaguely remembered statement by Garth Hudson to the effect that he’d been influenced by the some tabla player, who I figure may well have been one of the Bauls.

Peter V: I turned over Stills's Manassas LP in a thrift shop the other day and spotted Pat Arnold’s name among the bg singers.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 19:23:29 CET 2000 from spider-tj071.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.206)

RICK GOTTSCHALK

From: WEST HURLEY,NY (NEXT TO WOODSTOCK)

THANK YOU VERY MUCH


Posted on Thu Mar 16 19:05:58 CET 2000 from 1cust161.tnt11.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.134.161)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Well, I always thought "Shoot Out In Chinatown" to be one of the best cuts on CAHOOTS though admittedly that's not saying much since the album is basically substandard when compared to the first three. However, I recently checked out the lyrics on this website (which I hadn't previously paid much attention to) and was shocked to find that they are indeed stereotypical and insulting to Chinese-Americans. I find this somewhat hypocritical of Robbie Robertson who takes his Native American heritage so seriously and I think an apology is in order. Perhaps RR will comply when he appears as a presenter at the HOF awards next year.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 19:00:53 CET 2000 from cfa1.execulink.net (199.166.6.10)

Paul Godfrey

Knockin' Lost John.....Hear Here!

Shine ON!


Posted on Thu Mar 16 17:46:31 CET 2000 from du234-1.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.1.234)

Ilkka

Ni hao, Ragtime!
You have a point about chinoiseries in European classical music (or why not in architecture and modern poetry). In rock/pop music there are fine examples, too, like David Bowie's *China Girl* or Kate Bush who is singing very chinese. But *Shootout...* It is like my chop-suey with Finnish sausage.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 17:34:43 CET 2000 from mail.sevencounties.org (209.149.141.194)

knockin' lost john

From: indiana

Oh, yeah, almost forgot! To the Band fan who mentioned that "young" people are ruining the spirit of rock -n- roll and the HOF: I'm 27, which means I was born 4 years after BIG PINK. I don't care one way or another who is or who isn't in the hall of fame. All I'm interested in is good, old fashioned music like the Band and Levon and the gang make. I for one HATE Madonna's American Pie and practically gag everytime I hear it. I have never listened to N'Sync or Brittney Spears. Back when I was ahighschool student the big thing was New Kids On The Block and I hated them too. So, don't overgeneralize "young" people just because the BIG record industry is pumping out more crap than a sewage treatment plant.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 17:14:40 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.248)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Although I didn't catch the CSN&Y2k concert the other night in Atlanta, I did enjoy VH-1's Legends & Storytellers that featured the history & music of the group. From a music history perspective one could make a valid comparison between CS&N and The Band. When CS&N's debut album was released in 1969, the popular music scene for the most part was dominated by guitar rock with extended instrumental solos. CS&N took another approach by turning things down and emphasizing vocal harmonies. Instead of just one lead singer/frontman, the group featured three equally talented vocalists who could sing lead as well as harmonize with the others. Does this formula remind you of another group from that era?

Things soon changed when Neil Young was invited to join the group on "Deja vu". The addition of another lead guitar moved the group towards a harder-edged sound on many of their songs, as Stills & Young engaged in electric guitar duels. Perhaps following their experience at Woodstock they discovered that it was more difficult for them to reproduce those vocal harmonies on stage, so they turned up the guitars to compensate.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 16:25:42 CET 2000 from mail.sevencounties.org (209.149.141.194)

knockin' lost john

From: indiana

Hey! Just a thought about reports that Levon's voice is no more. I say Levon should take a lesson from James Cotton and keep on singing no matter how scratchy and rough it sounds. Cotton's vocals were "as dry as sandpaper" on his 1995 album Living The Blues, and personally I loved Levon's weathered voice on Jubilation and would love to hear more of it. Any more opinions on this topic from other Band fans?


Posted on Thu Mar 16 16:14:55 CET 2000 from 1cust53.tnt1.topeka.ks.da.uu.net (63.13.63.53)

Dexy

Viney, et.al. -- I wasn't complaining about "non-Band-related posts." Was just reacting to the thread. Certainly Neil Young is related to the same degree as Eric Anderson -- or Brian Epstein for that matter! One of the great things about this site (and there are many) is the related artists links and comments.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 12:04:25 CET 2000 from r-53.69.alltel.net (166.102.53.69)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

Peter Viney: You really are a wonderful source of information and inspiration.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 10:42:50 CET 2000 from levon.hiof.no (158.36.51.54)

jh

Peter, see the "What's New" Page, Jan.20.2000. Tsk, tsk...


Posted on Thu Mar 16 10:00:14 CET 2000 from du-tele3-093.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.93)

Peter Viney

Just saw an advert in the CDX newsletter for Guy Davis, "Butt Naked Free" (RHR142) "brand new album from the winner of the 99 Keepingf the Blues Alive W.C. Handy award …produced by John Platania, and guests Levon Helm". Any more info?


Posted on Thu Mar 16 09:56:39 CET 2000 from du-tele3-093.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.93)

Peter Viney

Thought I posted this yesterday, but now I recall my ISP was messing up. So it comes a day late. There is a town in north Ontario … Non-band chatter? Band-CSNY links follow:

"Helpless" is a song recorded by The Band on TLW with Neil Young. So what’s non-band about that? Neil Young sang with Robbie Robertson on "Soap Box Preacher" from "Storyville". Plus Levon & Rick played with Neil Young on "On The Beach" and Levon played with Crosby-Nash on "Wind on the Water". Then there’s the S.N.A.C.K. benefit bootleg with Dylan and Young, and gigs by The Band supporting CSNY including Wembley 74. "Déjà vu" album cover "paid tribute" to The Band. At the most tenuous, Rick and Richard appeared in the Byrds Tribute Band, which, er, Crosby didn’t. The Band and CSN were both at the Woodstock festival, and CSN’s management made the better decision about the movie as it turned out. RR in an interview mentioned that The Band hadn’t overdubbed anything from Woodstock, in contrast to CSN. He’d learned what to do by TLW, then. Oh, and on the RR produced "Forces of Nature" OST, Chris Tart performs Stephen Stills’ "Love the One You’re With." Non-link: Though the Hollies recorded This Wheel’s On Fire, I Shall Be Released & Mighty Quinn, Graham Nash left during the planning for the album they’re on, "Hollies Sing Dylan."

CSNY (like many other bands and musicians we discuss here) are likely to appeal to a number of Band fans, and I’m glad to hear news of their show. Anyone who was as pleased to appear on TLW as Neil Young evidently was, deserves our support! Why, I believe at TLW, Neil even wore a nose-stud which glittered in the light, but had to be removed from the film as it was 20 years ahead of the fashion … or something like that :-) So, back to Macy Gray, Lambchop and The Gourds …


Posted on Thu Mar 16 07:02:29 CET 2000 from spider-tl081.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.211)

dennis

From: It's warmin' up 'n the deer are startin' to run here in West Saugerties, NY

12:50 somethin'....kind of an early show this evening at Woodstock's Joyous Lake. On the bill for a week from Saturday is Jim's crew, one not to miss. So tonight's Barn Burner's show was yet another goodie: in the absence of Ms Helm and Mr Hudson, kind of a quick but very tight performance. No real highlights, just plain good. Folks in the audience included a gentleman who drove up from Brooklyn, but disguised himself in a Vermont sweat shirt! This evening's group was accompanied by a gentleman from Accord, NY on organ, added a nice touch. Spoke with the proprietor of The Lake, "the boss," and members of the ensemble and asked each, "Out of fear of withdrawl, how long are these shows going to continue?" The unrehearsed answer from one and all was as long as anyone wanted. So maybe YOU can make it next Wednesday for perhaps the best ten dollar show in rock these days. Should you need directions or whatever, please don't hesitate to ask. See ya....Dennis


Posted on Thu Mar 16 06:38:55 CET 2000 from pm3-208.efn.org (206.163.180.208)

deb

From: oregon

Doug; loved your Disco post. ("The horror; the horror")!

I must admit, though, that exercise routines are best done to bad disco music. I have tried to work some up to Band music, but it just doesn't happen. Darn!

Which leads me to another topic of discussion: my pet theory on why The Band has not reached mainstream audiences too widely. It's the beat. You know, the old American Bandstand catch phrase: "It's got a good beat, I give it an 85." Their music doesn't have that throbbing, catchy, dancy beat, so most mainstream (can we say "shallow"?) audiences won't give it a second listen.

Unfortunate that they don't know what they're missing.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 04:39:25 CET 2000 from firewall1.westpac.co.nz (210.55.236.18)

Rod

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A far worse and cliched attempt to imitate Chinese music is Levon's China Girl. I find Shoot Out an OK sort of song but a bit awkward and forced. Rock music in general does tend to be a bit patronising towards other cultures music and instruments. How many rock/pop songs about Europe have you heard that feature a cute little bit of accordion (Masterpiece is excused here as the accordion playing is masterly) or songs about England that have a tudorish couple of bars. I won't even mention Mull Of Kyntre.

Planet Waves is an under rated album for surewith some grat playing from the Band but I've never imagined any Band voices on the songs - and Dylan did do Forever Young more justice than The Band did on HOTH. But Richard on Going Going Gone and Sweet Mama and Levon on On a Night Like This and Hazel would have made classis Band songs.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 04:40:08 CET 2000 from spider-wg083.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.58)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa, N.Y.

Just saw The Wonder Boys. Great movie, fantastic soundtrack. Also just got the news today that John Hammond Jr. will be in town in a couple weeks. What's not to like?


Posted on Thu Mar 16 04:03:11 CET 2000 from (63.227.17.21)

Neil

Hello Serious Bob Dylan Collector! I just wanted to take a minute of your time to let you know about my auction coming up soon on eBay! I have for sale an original, first pressing "Freewheeling Bob Dylan" LP!! This album contains four tracks, "Talkin' John Birch Society Blues," "Rocks and Gravel," "Let Me Die In My Footsteps," and "Gamblin' Willie's Dead Man's Hand. These tracks were deleted and replaced by 4 others before the album was distributed. To my knowledge, there are only 4 other copies in the world! Complete details about the album can be found in the book Goldmine's Price Guide To Collectable Record Albums (fourth edition) ,pages 49 & 50, under the article titled "The World's Most Valuable Album." A copy of this album has not been available for sale to the public since 1992 and at that time it sold for over $10,000 (US) Needless to say, it is extremely rare!! If you have any interest in adding this valuable collector's piece to your collection, please check out the auction of this item next week on eBay. Thank you and best of luck to all of you!! For more go to www.fone.net/~neil


Posted on Thu Mar 16 03:06:28 CET 2000 from 24-216-10-201.hsacorp.net (24.216.10.201)

misty

From: earth

I am breaking out my lawnmower fellow band fans, there seems to be an overabundance of crabgrass here...! peace.lol.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 02:51:22 CET 2000 from ts1-30.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.30)

Doug[Cupid]Smith

With regard to comments not Band related.I think what's important here is that this gives Band fans a chance to say what's on their mind wether it's about the Band or not.I have visited a number of sites for bands that are no longer together although the individual members still perform and put out records.Most are electronic tombstones[The Pogues RIP].This place is alive and i think Levon,Robbie and Garth would rather have a bunch of people in here talking about Neil Young or the HOF than people coming in and posting memorials to The Band.As a songwriter myself i would rather my songs be a jumping off point,a tool to start a discussion.What the Bands music does for you is of intrest but i'd rather know where it's taken you.Did Dixie make you want to learn more about the American civil war[the oxymoron of all times by the way'Civil War']did Acadian Driftwood make you research the Acadians and find out what they were/are about.The Band planted a Big Pink seed,this place is the ecosystem that resulted after years of growth.Peace Cupid


Posted on Thu Mar 16 01:41:40 CET 2000 from 1cust125.tnt1.topeka.ks.da.uu.net (63.13.63.125)

Dexy

Here's a Band-related item. I just finished Ray Coleman's very interesting bio of Brian Epstein, The Man Who Made The Beatles. Turns out (as some of you may know -- I didn't) that Epstein and his US partner Nat Weiss were planning to rep Eric Anderson, described as "a 24-year-old New York folk singer." Unfortunately, Brian died right before a planned trip to NY, but Weiss did sign Anderson, at least according to the book. In two letters to Weiss soon before his death, Epstein referenced Anderson and how he was looking forward to working with him. Coleman, former Melody Maker editor, also wrote a book I liked about Lennon.


Posted on Thu Mar 16 01:23:32 CET 2000 from alb4-as5200-02-194.termserv.net (208.20.67.161)

Diamond Lil

At the risk of being exiled for indulging in non-Band related chatter, I'd like to mention that I like the variety of discussions that take place in here. It's nice to hear about other interests instead of having _everything_ relate to The Band. What a tedious, boring, humdrum existance it would be if there was nothing to talk about but The Band.

And on that note..I guess I should put on my Band pj's, lay my head on my Band pillow, and dream Band dreams.

Geez. Is anybody else nauseas? :-)


Posted on Thu Mar 16 00:01:44 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime (my usual p.s.)

Carmen: I forgot something. You asked what song cannot be improved. "Dirge" of course. IMHO of course.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 23:49:54 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

Carmen: fun question indeed! Possible improvement by Richard vocal: "Going Going Gone". By Rick vocal "You Angel You". By Levon vocal: "On A Night Like This". By all three: "Forever Young" (FAST version). Actually Rick's voice was suited for the whole album IMHO. But I like Planet Waves as it is...

Ilkka: sure the quasi-Chinese pentatonism on Cahoots don't make any sense - they obviously didn't understand Chinese music - but "humiliating"? No no no... many classical composers tried the same, and failed too. They just wanted to catch a spirit they didn't understand. Most famous example: Mahler's "Lied vond der Erde" (Song of the Earth). Wonderful chinoiserie wrapped in an European classical idiom. Just like The Band wrapped some chinoiserie in a rock idiom. One of their worst, yes, but they were not humiliating anybody IMHO.

That's two IMHO's. Enough for now :-)


Posted on Wed Mar 15 21:50:43 CET 2000 from (199.88.112.211)

Molly

From: MV

Sorry Martha. You're right. I thought you meant that Neil sang on the actual album.
Forgive me... :(


Posted on Wed Mar 15 21:49:44 CET 2000 from spider-to062.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.72)

jcf

From: new york

I just want to say that I meant to sign the post earlier today under my initials JCF, instead of "Jonathan Fogelman".


Posted on Wed Mar 15 21:12:13 CET 2000 from (12.78.76.81)

carmen

From: PA

On the Dylan thing, I've been listening to Planet Waves alot lately. The more I listen, the more I like. I think "Something There is About You" is a great song. The BAND sounds so tight.

It got me thinking, for all of those who question song writing credits when it comes to BAND songs. If you think credit should have been shared just because of the contributions of the members, then shouldn't the same hold true for the Dylan/Band songs???

Next fun question for discussion: Which song from PLANET WAVES whould have been best suited for a lead vocal from RICK, RICHARD or LEVON, and therefore improved? And which song could not be improved?


Posted on Wed Mar 15 21:05:18 CET 2000 from du34-250.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.250.34)

Ilkka

From: Nordic Countries
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Supratik asked about influences of Indian music and The Band. Probably it is better that there seems not to be none. The way they humiliated Chinese music in Cahoots makes me sick. Doing that with classic Indian music ... no!

To Nordic fans of Dylan:
May 14th - Gothenburg, May 15th - Polar Music Prize in Stockholm, May 16th and 17th ???, May 18th Oslo


Posted on Wed Mar 15 21:00:20 CET 2000 from spider-tq051.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.66)

dennis

From: The bluebirds have returned to West Saugerties, NY

Hey there, it's a beautiful Wednesday afternoon here just down the road a piece from Big Pink. WEDNESDAY? Holy Mackeral, this ole' rounder's gotta get a nap, it's Barn Burner's night at the Joyous Lake! Hope to see YOU there, show time's just before ten, and all for just ten bucks.... I'll post a brief review around two am....


Posted on Wed Mar 15 20:43:29 CET 2000 from vdp191.ath03.cas.hol.gr (195.97.3.192)

a fan from Greece

From: Athens

Hope you don't mind me bringing up the Last Waltz movie again, but I was just watching it again and I noticed yet another thing I hadn't noticed before. When Ronnie Hawkins comes on stage, what is he doing with Richard?...... that's all, and as for the non-Band related posts, I find some of them quiet educational, some of us are out in the desert here as far as musical history is concerned. Bob Dylan rules. Goodnight from a pretty little girl from Greece.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 19:31:32 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int02.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.68)

Bones

From: CT

Congrats to Bob Dylan and the Band. In the new issue of Billboard magazine, RIAA listed the Basement Tapes as having gone GOLD recently. It also said that it was their second(I assume Before The Flood was their first). Not bad considering everyone had the tapes already.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 19:31:01 CET 2000 from (204.120.54.1)

jonathan fogelman

From: new york

For those who live in the new york city area, or those visiting, the Gingerman on 36th street between Madison and Fifth avenues, has the last Waltz on the juxebox. I know most people who visit this site, have own their own copy, and can listen to it whenever they want. However perhaps it is good to know. (I have it at home and I still play it) For those in other areas, it might be a good idea to post the names and adresses of establishments that have band discs on the juxebox


Posted on Wed Mar 15 19:13:59 CET 2000 from phshost.perry.high.houston.k12.ga.us (168.17.130.3)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

Sorry Molly Z.: Neil Young did not sing "Helpless" at the CSNY concert in Atlanta last night (see the earlier posting) that I can remember. Just a response to tangobeat's complaint about non-band-related postings.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 16:29:39 CET 2000 from (199.88.112.211)

Molly Z.

From: MV

Hey Martha!!

I really think that Neil Young did sing Helpless, since I have one of his albums, and it said that he Did sing it.

I know it's non-band related, but wanted to put that out in the open anyway. Thanks for listening. have a good day everyone.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 15:57:06 CET 2000 from phshost.perry.high.houston.k12.ga.us (168.17.130.3)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

What's This?/Tangobeat, Neil Young did not sing "Helpless." No non-band chatter.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 14:05:02 CET 2000 from ppp661.on.bellglobal.com (206.172.238.85)

Why Not ?

Tangobeat: We know you're good at the tango, but can you dance the hustle?


Posted on Wed Mar 15 13:42:59 CET 2000 from (209.226.13.34)

What's this ?

What's all this non-Band chatter? Nothing left to say? All been said before?

I have the Bengali Bauls' vinyl. Pretty sad and boring effort.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 13:02:10 CET 2000 from r-53.56.alltel.net (166.102.53.56)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

We got in at 3 a.m. from the CSNY concert in Atlanta last night. What a great evening. Now I have to drag my weary behind to school by 7:30. I must show the 17-18 yr. olds how the Boomers do it.

David Powell, did you go to Phillips Areana last evening? Those old guys had a great time and put on a great show once they got the sound worked out. Stills and Young--grinning throughout--blew everyone away, and that means all ages.



Posted on Wed Mar 15 12:48:01 CET 2000 from alb4-as5200-48-240.termserv.net (208.20.67.207)

Diamond Lil

Doug Smith: Loved your post! God..I _knew_ people who should've been thrown into the disco inferno, and thinking back on that now is pretty funny. Hairy chested men, shirts unbuttoned down to their belly-buttons, wearing big 'ol gold medallions heavier than their heads, and doing the hustle...geez..if there's a hell..I bet it has strobe lights :-)

Anyhow..thanks for the morning laugh. Have a good day everyone.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 09:10:28 CET 2000 from ts1-38.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.38)

Doug Smith

Mattk If Punk is bound to end up in the HOF then does that mean we can expect at some point they will be hanging mirror balls and adding extra fire prevention equitment[to combat highly flammable polyester leisure suits] to what will become the[gag!!] Disco wing.The pistols i can live with,The Clash must be enshrined.DOA,The Dead Kennedy's,Iggy and the Stooges and of course The Ramones are all welcome additions.However what will we do when Rick James,KC and the Sunshine Band and The Village freakin'People start banging on the door.I'm more than a bit ticked at you young folks[and movie makers] out there who have tried to bring Disco back.We went into the musical trenches beer in one hand Strat in the other and slew the platform shoed beast once.Please do not repeat the mistakes off those who went before you.You have know idea what your playing with,lapels are not supposed to be wider than aircraft carriers.Ladies do not be turned on by hairy chests sporting large gold medallions.A hairy chest leads to only one thing...a hairy back. This reminds me of a line from an old movie."The horror...the horror"..Cupid


Posted on Wed Mar 15 07:31:53 CET 2000 from 1cust36.tnt2.iowa-city.ia.da.uu.net (63.25.167.36)

Paul Nyman

Great site again! Appreciatte the mention about someone talking with Eric Andersen at a gig recently about the unissued live material from the trios 1997 tour of japan. Let's hope that comes! Would anyone out there have any live audio tapes from U.S. or European gigs that the trio did? I managed to hear some of a NPR spot for Jonas Fjeld recently. Cheers to everyone!


Posted on Wed Mar 15 06:17:06 CET 2000 from user-33qta03.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.168.3)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

I don't know about that Forces of Nature Soundtrack, but "Whippin' Picadilly" done got my attention. And, Crabgrass, you sure keep in character....mattk, I always appreciate your well thought out posts, and it is nice to see someone wrestling with what to do with punk rock in regards to this HOF thing. I assume the Pistols filmed their reunion tour. Build a new wing and show the sellouts 24/7, but don't use the concert sound. Overdub Malcolm McClaren's "Buffalo Girls." Meanwhile, I'm working out details for the Courtney Love holographic romp through punk chic. Now, throw Iggy, Elvis and The Clash together and you've said it all. And if Bonnie Raitt is in there, then Chryssie Hynde deserves a floor.


Posted on Wed Mar 15 02:54:40 CET 2000 from user-2ive6b3.dialup.mindspring.com (165.247.25.99)

John Lettiere

From: NY

Peter Stone Brown in New York City!!!!! Greeting folks. I'll be making my first New York City appearance in 15 months on March 18th and would like to see as many of you there as possible. As you'll see below I'll be playing the Sun Music Company with my label-mate singer-songwriter, Andy Scheinmann. For all you RMD-ers out there, Andy shares a lot of the same musical influences that I do. Please keep in mind we don't have publicists, advertising and all that other big time stuff. We need you for a good night. So tell your friends and try to come out. THANKS!!!!! Friday, March 10th, 9:30 pm - 1:30 am Goat Hollow Tavern 300 W. Mt. Pleasant Avenue (Mt. Pleasant & Lincoln Drive) West Mt Airy, Philadelphia 215 242-4710 Saturday, March 18th, 8:30 pm SUN Music Company 340 East 71st Street New York, NY (between 1st and 2nd Avenue) 212 396-9521 $10.00 also appearing from Nashville, Tangible Music Artist Andy Scheinmann Andy is an excellent singer-songwriter who I highly recommend You can find out about Andy here: http://store.yahoo.com/tangible-music/anscheinimam.html and here: http://members.aol.com/Flyfolk/andy.htm


Posted on Wed Mar 15 01:17:27 CET 2000 from ti15a21-0021.dialup.online.no (130.67.112.85)

Dag

Home page

In the Dylan magazine THE TELEGRAPH, issue 51 there was an article on the John Wesley Harding cover with some info on the Bauls of Bengal. I'm a slow typer, so I did some quick scans and uploaded them to the above link


Posted on Tue Mar 14 20:59:52 CET 2000 from spider-wb013.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.153)

Lee

I've never heard The Bengali Bauls @ Big Pink but someone I know has the album and says The Band don't actually perform on the session, though, voices can be heard between tracks which may or may not be some of the guys. I'm sure I've read somewhere that Garth was very interested in Indian music and was attempting to make a film. This would have been 67/68. Maybe someone can put me right or add to this.


Posted on Tue Mar 14 19:30:11 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Supratik, The Band did a recording with a group of Indian street musicians called the "Bengali Bauls" in the Big Pink days. I've not heard the recording (I'm sure someone here has, though).

You can read some info about this recording on this site:

The Bengali Bauls at Big Pink

Has anyone actually heard this record?

Matt


Posted on Tue Mar 14 19:18:22 CET 2000 from (203.197.118.175)

Supratik

From: hot summer country

Considering the fact that quite a few rock legends in the 60s and the 70s were enamoured with Indian music esp. classical , did the Band also have any similar connections ? Being an Indian myself and a die-hard Band fan any information would be very welcome.

Thanks Supratik


Posted on Tue Mar 14 17:33:07 CET 2000 from p742.as1.exs.dublin.eircom.net (159.134.226.230)

Joe Gallagher

I wish to add to the many tributes paid to the great Rick. he was much loved in Ireland. he left a lasting memory with me from a solo gig he did in a pub called whelan's on March 31st 1993. He was amazed that the lyrics of his songs were so familiar to the adoring audience. His' Acadian Driftwood' was enough to give goose pimples. Go n-eirigh leis, ni bheidh a leitheid ann aris !!!!!


Posted on Tue Mar 14 17:29:36 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int01.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.67)

Bones

From: CT

EVERYONE: As I said in my last post, Rick Danko's name was mentioned at the Hall of Fame Dinner. We had a silent prayer for him, Curtis Mayfield and others.

Peter Viney: You are right about Robbie's involvement with "Forces of Nature". The theme of the project, getting U2 to submit the main song, and the use of younger(more hip) bands covering classic rock songs were all his ideas, from what I've been told.


Posted on Tue Mar 14 16:53:57 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Pat Brennan makes some excellent comments regarding the future of the HOF and it's current nature. Ironically, the hall itself reflects the state of R&R over it's history. If one argues that after the 1960s, R&R became increasingly a marketing project and less and less a "people's art form," then it's interesting to see the HOF mimicking that evolution.

It's fair to say that Punk was a reaction to institutionalization and gentrification of rock music, in a time when cheesy pop and disco overwhelmed the more populist, street driven values of Rock and Roll through the 1960s (like all generalizations, this one can be shot full of holes, but when Gerry Rafferty can make a killing parodying Bob Dylan, you realize how far things had fallen).

The folks who had energized rock in the 1950s had faded to some obscurity, become an oldies act, or like Chuck Berry, became something of a novelty act. 1960s acts either burned out or ascended to a kind of royalty, still capable of fine work, but somehow more self-referential than relevant). Coming into the 1970s, Punk, for all it's failings, energized Rock in a critical way. As pointed out, many of the first progenitors succumbed to bad behavior or death by abuse. With punk, nihilism entered rock with abandon, and while it certainly undermined the feel good message of the Woodstock generation, one could argue the punks simply pointed out the folly and hypocracy in an industry where the artists themselves became increasingly money-driven and further insulated via an enabling and indulgent star system.

It's ironic, really. While he is certainly no Punk Rocker, Levon's comments about the industry and his feelings about RR really touch on this disparity. Now, as artists who bathed in the excesses of the 70s star system have come to dominate the HOF, we see an interesting microcosm of the state of rock in the mid-70s, where the music was at a crossroads, and we feel a mix of apathy, optimism and depression about what may or may not happen next.

Depending on your view, you can see where this was not the last crossroads R&R faced. Given the rise of the N'Sync's, Brittany Spears, and Spice Girls, one could argue that a good dose of punk is EXACTLY what Rock needs. Of course, after the so-called "alternative" revolution in the early 90s, peircing your forehead, being rude and playing really loud is as heavily marketed as anything.

matt


Posted on Tue Mar 14 16:22:44 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Blues singer King Ernest, who sang with Little Milton and achieved hits with songs like "I'm So Tired" died in a car crash in LA on Sunday...RIP


Posted on Tue Mar 14 15:09:48 CET 2000 from user-33qta9p.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.169.57)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

For all of you interested in R&R/Rick and Richard at the Lone Star, please note my first post from yesterday.


Posted on Tue Mar 14 11:13:52 CET 2000 from host-66.brunnbergoforshed.se (195.67.60.66)

Lars Vinga

From: Sweden

Were can i find R&R Live, recorded at the Lone Star Cafe 1884? Please, send me a message.


Posted on Tue Mar 14 09:22:21 CET 2000 from ts1-33.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.33)

Doug Smith

From: north of 49

I was listenning to Ophelia tonight and was wondering who sang the harmony.My ears tell me Richard,perhaps someone can fill me in. Thanx Cupid


Posted on Tue Mar 14 07:59:08 CET 2000 from 1cust137.tnt12.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.136.137)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Despite the Band's obvious collective greatness (95% of it embodied in their first three albums) and despite each member's obvious individual talents their main achievement was in fusing their talents together. Not one was ever cut out to be a solo artist and the failure of those who attempted it is obvious. All in all, The Last Waltz wasn't too bad an idea in that it gave them all an opportunity to recapture at least some of their lost glory (due to a succession of albums beyond Stage Fright which went from bad to worse) by immortalizing a few of their early great tunes on celluloid. Especially since they had neglected to make a full concert videotape of any of their heyday performances which is really regrettable.

I think the punk generation should start a Punk Hall of Infamy the first inductee being Sid Vicious - postumously of course. (For starters he could be inducted as a bass player, and then in subsequent years as a junkie, murderer, and suicide victim - all shining achievements for a true punk rocker) They could hold the annual ceremony in the lobby of the Chelsea Hotel where they could shoot up, get soused, and puke at each other. That should make them all happy.


Posted on Tue Mar 14 05:42:07 CET 2000 from user-33qt88h.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.161.17)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

Interesting thought on duo albums, since I've always thought that the most enjoyable post-LW configuration was the Rick/Richard shows (with the occasional Garth thrown in). Easy reason: greatest percentage of Band songs per show. I just got the R&R boot available on the site I posted earlier. Shape I'm I, Rumor, Unfaithful Servant, You Don't Know Me, Java Blues, Great Divide, Difference, Chest Fever/My Love. She Knows, Stage Fright, Veil, Whistle Stop (!!), Caledonia Mission, Share Your Love, Georgia, Rockin Chair, Released. Now if the reformed Band had come out with that setlist, I'd be a happy human. Sound quality varies a bit and the level is somewhat low--probably from a cassette. But it's pretty close to a soundboard. Now, I love mattk, and I'm thrilled people think the Lovin Spoonful deserve enshrinement anywhere, but this R&R HOF is a tourist trap and not much else. No true punk would show his or her face at such a place. All my humble opinion, and I cast no stones at those of you who like the concept. I just long for the Kinetic Playground and a time when all of it was beyond the bounds.


Posted on Tue Mar 14 04:18:01 CET 2000 from eh1-229.hamptons.com (204.141.114.229)

Tony LoBue

Home page

The Band LIVE At Woodstock 94 . Tape quality good and sound is good, even better with Pro Logic. This show is belfry interrupted by the Rollins Band (only 1 song). This VHS tape will only go up for auction ONE TIME. Copies of this tapeWILL NOT be sold to anyone after the auction. A portion of the proceeds will go toRick Danko's family Bassrcd@aol.com . Songs Included : Blind Willie McTell, It Makes no Difference, Atlantic City, Rag Mama Rag, Caldonia Mission, Crazy Mama, Don't do it, The Weight, Mystery Train, Stuff you Gotta Watch, Stage Fright, Ophella, Life is a Carnival, Hand Jive, Shape I'm In, A Garth Solo, Chest Fever, Rock and roll Shoes. Click Home Page for EBay Link.


Posted on Tue Mar 14 04:03:31 CET 2000 from pm3-147.efn.org (206.163.180.147)

deb

From: oregon

Here's another connection to The Band/The Last Waltz:

I went to see the documentary "The Source" yesterday. It is a pretty fair depiction of The Beat Movement which spawned The Hippie Movement. Lots of good footage of Jack Kerouac, Neal Cassady, Allen Ginsberg, a bit too much of William Burroughs in my opinion, and many others. They interview Michael McClure (remember him from The Last Waltz?) and feature a brief bit with a young Bob Dylan (I won't spoil the movie for anyone by telling what he says, which elicited laughs from the entire audience). The interviews with Timothy Leary are priceless!

Good movie, for young and old(er) Beatniks or Hippies.


Posted on Tue Mar 14 03:48:27 CET 2000 from user-33qt80q.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.160.26)

Pat Brennan

From: USA

For all of you seeking the complete Last Waltz and a few extras: http://www.cardiffrose.net/band.html


Posted on Tue Mar 14 02:28:33 CET 2000 from 1cust174.tnt1.albany.ny.da.uu.net (63.20.207.174)

LAMONT DEPEW

From: CHATHAM NY

JIM, RANDO, WHAT A GREAT GIG AT THE METRO IN SARATOGA FRIDAY NIGHT! YOU BOYS WERE BURNIN' THE STAGE AS WERE MALCOLM, AND JEREMY.THOSE NEW ARRAINGMENTS OF REMEDY AND CARNIVAL AS WELL AS THE WEIGHT WERE TUFF ENUFF. YOUR NEW MATERIAL BLEW ME AWAY, SHOWMANSHIP AT IT'A FINEST! CAN'T SAY I'VE SEEN A MORE INTHUSIASTIC CROWD, WHAT A GREAT PLACE TO PERFORM.IT WAS A PLEASURE DOING THOSE TWO SONGS WITH YOU I ENJOY HAVING AN ASS-KICKIN' BAND BEHIND ME ONCE IN A WHILE. BE WELL, SEE YOU AT JOYOUS LAKE MAR. 25 MONTY


Posted on Mon Mar 13 23:19:27 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Oasis isn't already in the HOF? Oh wait, that's the Beatles... ; )


Posted on Mon Mar 13 23:14:24 CET 2000 from du-tele3-106.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.106)

Peter Viney

Matt K: regarding the R&R Hall of Fame. As it gets to the Sex Pistols, Iggy Pop, The Clash and (in the fullness of time) Oasis and Blur, it will surely come to mirror the Brit Awards, whose annual televised ceremonies are enlivened by assaults (e.g. on Michael Jackson, Ronnie Wood), spitting and generally bad behaviour (Gerri Halliwell emerging with dancers between blow-up spreadeagled female legs). Mind you, Macy Gray was superb on "I Try" this year in spite of an unpleasant intro. The best track on "How Life Is", "Still", came out as a single today. My prediction for a cross-Atlantic #1. But then again I love Madonna’s take on "American Pie." (UK #1 this week).

Is anyone listening to the "Forces of Nature" OST? Executive producer – Robbie Robertson. Sex and drums and rock & roll. See "What’s New" on this site. RR didn’t actually produce any tracks, but there is a unifying feel. I’m not sure how you define "executive producer". In TV production it means the person who approves the general idea and assigns the budget, rather than someone with a hands-on role. The "Forces of Nature" OST seems more than that. You sense one intelligence behind the choices. Matt K. again (and anyone else into Corey Harris) – check out the astonishing remix of R.L. Burnside’s "Rolling and Tumbling" on this album, or Swervedriver’s "Magic Bus", U2 re-inventing Love Affair’s "Everlasting Love" or Faithless or Tricky … some very good material and it sounds like an album rather than an OST mishmash. Robbie keeps his ear to the ground.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 22:17:23 CET 2000 from (209.155.134.84)

Just Wonderin'

From: Texas

As Ragtime pointed out Levon is a fine actor. Just caught "Smooth Talk" the other day and he was as comfortable as ever in the role of the father of the family. It's worth watching!


Posted on Mon Mar 13 20:44:21 CET 2000 from usr51-dialup189.mix2.boston.cw.net (166.62.198.67)

Ralph Grzedzicki

From: bflo, ny

Need directions to Joyous Lake, Woodstock, NY. Got to trip up and see Levon play. Sad note that nobody at the RR Hall ceremonies mentioned Rick Danko. Sad! Rick was fun everytime we met him over th past 9 years. Never refused an autograph or conversation. Darn shame.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 20:24:50 CET 2000 from usr51-dialup189.mix2.boston.cw.net (166.62.198.67)

Grizzly

From: bflo ny

Need instruction tos location of Joyous Lake, Woodstock, N.Y.. Have to trip up to see Levon play. All the pomp, etc. at the RR Hall and NO mention of Rick Danko. Met him on numerous occasions and he was great. Never refused an autograph or conversation. What a loss.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 20:10:02 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.242)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Amy Helm appears on Steely Dan's excellent new CD, "Two Against Nature." She is credited as the "whistler" on the song "Cousin Dupree", one of the album's stand-out tracks.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 19:53:36 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Adding to David Powell's Neville Brothers/Meters thread. Folks interested in an excellent retrospective of this musical family are encouraged to pick up "Treacherous: A History of the Neville Brothers." This is a two volume set, with a two-disc volume one, released in 1986, which follows the band from The Meters to such Neville's classics as Brother John, Hey Pockey Way, etc. Volume Two, released in 1991, includes some older material from "The Hawkettes" (ironically) and takes on some of the later material from Yellow Moon, etc.

Both CDs are still in print, I believe and available at CD NOW and Amazon. Volume One has excellent historical notes and interviews with various Nevilles.

Matt


Posted on Mon Mar 13 19:23:43 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Ok, for the Band purists, the Yahoo article mentioned previously notes that (amazingly) Steely Dan is not in the Hall yet. Since Donald Fagan is Amy Helm's stepdad, maybe that lends some relevance?

; )


Posted on Mon Mar 13 19:20:55 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Well, maybe we can take our minds of the saddness of so many anniversaries and losses and stir up a bit of controversy...ROCK & ROLL controversy, that is, not personal... There is an interesting article on Yahoo regarding the future of the R&R HOF, and the battle between popularity/sales over "purism" and artistic influence. Something that crossed my mind the past few years, watching the inductions is the "feel good" nature of the whole thing. Seeing Patti Smith on stage (who I thought provided the best "pure" R&R moment with her energetic version of "people have the power" honoring Clive Davis' induction), I'm reminded that the HOF has done little to address the rise of punk in the 1970s, which, like it or not, had a HUGE impact on the direction of R&R, especially heading into the 80s.

The writer points out that there is a serious question hanging over the Hall as it must now begin turning it's attention to this next generation. Next year will be the first year of eligibility for the Sex Pistols, and there are already (some would argue) glaring omissions in denying artists like Patti Smith, Television, the NY Dolls, MC5, and possibly most onerous, Iggy Pop and the Ramones. As "no brainers" like the Sex Pistols and The Clash, come of age, the Hall faces a major decision about how it plans on incorporating these artists, critical to the develoment of Rock and Roll, but who's iconclastic approach will certainly change the nature of the ceremonies and raise anxieties for planners who try to figure out what folks like John Lydon and Iggy may attempt once given a microphone and a captive audience of industry heavies.

Personally, just as it did in the 70s, I expect the punk generation will shake things up, but as the event has become increasingly "institutionalized" by the music industry itself, I also expect it's EXACTLY what the Hall needs to stay relevant and not lose it's energy to cronyism and corporate politics.

Not really a Band topic, but since the HOF is a RR project, and since the Hall provides a yearly dose of new topic and controversy for the GB, I figure I'd raise it now.

You can read the article HERE.

Careful before phlaming this next generation, however...you don't want to come off sounding too much like your parents... ; - )

Matt


Posted on Mon Mar 13 18:30:47 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.242)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Bob Irwin's Sundazed label has recently released CD reissues of three classic albums from the instrumental pioneers of New Orleans funk & soul, The Meters. These CDs have been remastered from the original Josie label master tapes.

Before forming the Neville Brothers with Aaron, Charles and Cyril, keyboardist Art Neville was a member of The Meters. Along with guitarist Leo Nocentelli, bassist George Porter, Jr. and drummer Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste, in the late '60s they became the house band at Allen Toussaint and Marshall Seahorn's New Orleans studio. It was there that they recorded with artists such as Lee Dorsey and Dr. John. Later they recorded a string of instrumental hits under their own name. Songs such as "Sophisticated Cissy", "Cissy Strut", and "Look-Ka Py Py" featured their trademark blend of soul & funk stirred together with syncopated, stop & start, in the pocket grooves.

The Meters influenced many musicians, including The Band. They later toured and/or played on recordings with such luminaries as Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, Robert Palmer and King Biscuit Boy. The Meters are among the many musicians that played on Robbie Robertson's "Storyville" album.

These Sundazed releases are a must for fans of New Orleans music. If you're unfamiliar with The Meters I recommend checking out their first, self-titled album; the other two releases are entitled "Look-Ka Py Py" and "Struttin."

This past rainy Saturday I came across a find at a used record store-- a 45 of Manfred Mann's Earth Band's cover of John Simon & Robbie Robertson's "Davy's on the Road Again." One side has a mono version and the other has a stereo version. I have to say that I rather like their cover and it's a fine companion to their LP that features covers of Dylan & The Band's basement tape songs.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 18:07:31 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

Thanks to all those who answered my query about "St. Elsewhere". I'm convinced now that RR was not in that soap - sure Lil, Freddy Heineken's bottles must have been responsable for my mistake :-). On the other hand: "Visiting hours" - don't remember any horror at all...

And sure: Levon is the best actor of them all. Coal Miner's Daughter was a moving perfomance.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 17:46:21 CET 2000 from sjiassoc16.erols.com (208.58.12.144)

Jon Lyness

From: New York City

Wow...watching the VH1 history of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young makes the Band's history seem so simple & straightforward! I wonder if even CSN(Y)'s closest fans can keep track of the group's various reunions & permutations through the 70s and 80s (okay, I guess they can). Made me think, it would have been great if some pair(s) of the Band members had released "duo" albums while their original lineup was intact...maybe it would've helped to give them the name recognition that eluded them without the Band. It would've been wonderful if Rick and Richard had done an album together, or maybe Levon & Rick like the living-room shows. I suppose contract obligations would've prevented them doing stuff like that, though. Any thoughts?


Posted on Mon Mar 13 16:48:02 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int01.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.67)

Bones

From: CT

Rick S. : Yes! They did mention Rick's name at the Hall of Fame Dinner last Monday night. Before the show started, Jann Wenner said a few words welcoming everybody, and then we had a silent prayer for those who have passed since the last Hall of Fame Dinner. Jann mentioned Rick Danko, Curtis Mayfield and a few others before the silent prayer. It was a lovely thing to do.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 16:35:30 CET 2000 from mail.sevencounties.org (209.149.141.194)

Knockin' Lost John

From: Indiana

A special thanks to all the other Band fans out there who have been helping me find boots and rarities! Still no news from anyone else about Levon's voice though. The articles I read on the site kinda depressed me, 'cause they both said Levon wasn't singing with the Barnburners 'cause his voice is in such bad shape.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 15:32:27 CET 2000 from (137.187.146.39)

Alex Hoffman

From: Baltimore MD

With regard to the "Did Robbie Robertson appear on Saint Elsewhere?" question, the Internet Movie Database (www.imdb.com) has no such credit for Robertson. He did, however, appear in a hospital-based horror movie in 1982 called 'Visiting Hours.' Based on the review of that film, I would say Levon is still the best actor in the Band.


Posted on Mon Mar 13 14:42:22 CET 2000 from icache-3.doit.wisc.edu (144.92.44.76)

[guest photo]

Tim(SUNDOG)

From: Madison, Wisconsin,
Home page

Hope all is well:^)


Posted on Mon Mar 13 09:03:59 CET 2000 from spider-tn054.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.69)

Liz ard Breath

From: here, there and everywhere
Home page

ok: Dimming of the Day:written by Richard Thompson:recorded by: Danko, Fjeld, Anderson....... cut 3, Ridin on the Blinds......Cut 9 on the Nevilles........" Valence St."..top o the day to you.Cajun......Creole, Africa..... Black Irish............ I'll meet you at the dimming of the day.....God Bless.........St. Patrick was Italian.........hahahahahaha


Posted on Mon Mar 13 08:42:18 CET 2000 from spider-tn032.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.57)

Liz Yaya

From: your Dad's penis?
Home page

why ? why even say "Penis" in here ?I just noticed the song: Dimmining of The Day........is on the " Danko , Feld, Anderson " cd....Ridin on the Blinds, and it is on the Neville Bros. CD : " Valence St." any body been to Valence St. ? well I haaave....... I hammer out love all over this land........Lets go to New Orleans.......Jazz and Heritage..........


Posted on Mon Mar 13 07:18:02 CET 2000 from sji-ca-cache2.icg.net (165.236.189.201)

Just

From: my dad's penis

I love the BAND....Amy Helm & Delphine Robertson R my best freinds....


Posted on Mon Mar 13 01:40:34 CET 2000 from spider-we032.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.32)

Rick S.

From: Suffern, N.Y.

Did anyone on stage at the Rock and Roll HOF Inductions mention Rick Danko?


Posted on Sun Mar 12 23:29:52 CET 2000 from m7.cknwradio.com (207.194.199.7)

Shirley McQueen

From: Vancouver, B>C>

Congratulations on your Best Roots/Traditional Juno guys! A well deserved reward for a great release. It was nice to see you at the Bamboo in January Colin. Tom - I hope everything is going great. All the best, Shirley McQueen


Posted on Sun Mar 12 21:00:14 CET 2000 from ip203100.uvm.edu (132.198.203.100)

Bob Peterson

From: Burlington, Vermont

I'm planning on attending the Barnburners show in Pawling, NY with some friends. Bubba emailed me that Garth will probably not be there, but it will be fun nonetheless. I recomend that everyone should attend if at all possible. We have to support these guys with all our energy. Enjoy St. Patrick's day and drink some Guiness, eat corned beef and cabbage. I'm off to see Bobby Clancy, Finbarr Clancy and Eddie Dillon on Wednesday night. Later. The Wild Rover


Posted on Sun Mar 12 18:34:39 CET 2000 from 1cust211.tnt9.bos2.da.uu.net (63.27.149.211)

matt better

From: ct.

the rumors are true i'm afriend of a guy who works for bvreeze hill records look forit in may. no rr to my knowledge.


Posted on Sun Mar 12 18:13:43 CET 2000 from 152.mercerville-33-34rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.153.152)

carmen

From: pa

Regarding the "Rumor", what an irony. It seems as if the BAND has been the subject of this kind of rumor before. So when the rumor comes to your town, keep your fingers crossed. Wouldn't it be nice!

Bottom line is I am thrilled to here that Rick's final work will most likley see the light of day with the help of Levon, Garth and I hope RR.


Posted on Sun Mar 12 16:56:21 CET 2000 from spider-ti081.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.211)

acadianruby

From: Mass.

I just wanted to take a moment to thank Jan and all of you for being here. Before I finally got this computer,I would go to a friends house or this place in town where you could pay by the hour for the use of their computers. My purpose for going was to get to this page to see where any of the boys would be playing next. You have always been so informative and updated and I am so very grateful. If not for you I would have missed a lot of great shows and soul moving nights. Band people are so kind and share a common spirit and I want to thank you all


Posted on Sun Mar 12 13:08:58 CET 2000 from alb4-as5200-15-207.termserv.net (208.20.67.174)

Lil again

Almost forgot. To the person who mentioned about hearing that Garth and Levon have done some work on Rick's last (soon to be released) album..it is true. As far as the rumor of RR working on it, I haven't heard anything about that. It sure would be nice if all 3 of the remaining original members contributed however...

Another rainy day here in crazyville, but I figure, if we don't have to shovel it..we're making progress :-) Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.


Posted on Sun Mar 12 12:46:41 CET 2000 from alb4-as5200-15-207.termserv.net (208.20.67.174)

Diamond Lil

Ironically, I had promised myself that I was not going to mention Rick being gone 3 months...and then I received about 40 e-mails (thank you) and have read the posts in here....

3 months will turn into 6, and 6 months will become a year, and on and on and on. I hate that. Always loved, always missed Rick. Damn.


Posted on Sun Mar 12 04:29:20 CET 2000 from proxy-553.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.143)

Scott

3 months.... Ouch......I was listening to a Doc Watson/Clarence Ashley cd and they were doing a great old time mountain version of Amazing Grace and it made me think of this site and Rick. God bless him. He certainly blessed us all.....


Posted on Sun Mar 12 02:43:37 CET 2000 from ip-134.dial.wans.com (64.7.64.134)

Molly Z.

Home page

I updated my website, so check it out!! Thanks


Posted on Sat Mar 11 18:50:27 CET 2000 from 234.mercerville-33-34rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.153.234)

carmen

From: pa

Hey Knockin Lost John, lets hope it's a dream come true.


Posted on Sat Mar 11 16:59:32 CET 2000 from (149.160.23.52)

Knockin' Lost John

From: Indiana

Hey Band fans. I recently heard that Levon and Garth was working on Rick's final studio recordings as well, and I'm sure there's truth to that. Also got word that Levon is supposed to be completing Crowmatix Vol II. Also read that Levon can't sing anymore!! God, I hope that's not true! Say it ain't so! Also heard a rumor from another Band fan that Robertson is also working w/ Helm and Hudson on Rick's last studio recordings and that it will be released as one last BAND album, but I doubt seriously that that's true! One can dream!!


Posted on Sat Mar 11 16:03:48 CET 2000 from spider-we074.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.54)

gail D.

From: westchester, ny

Love this site, especially this GB. Its a great place to share and unfortunately, grieve. I too, was really shaken by the loss of Rick. I would love to pay my respects at his gravesite. Can anyone here tell me what cemetery he is buried at in Woodstock?


Posted on Sat Mar 11 14:10:36 CET 2000 from proxy-sat.idl.com.au (203.34.122.170)

Martin

From: Australia

Roy was a cool dude, life is so fragile. Can anyone help me to find a cd copy of the "You're Not Alone" album?


Posted on Sat Mar 11 08:06:22 CET 2000 from spider-tq051.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.66)

Greg

Last December there was some mention of Levon & Garth completing the solo record that Rick was working on. I hope that it's true. Has anyone heard any more about it?


Posted on Sat Mar 11 03:32:37 CET 2000 from spider-wd032.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.162)

Linda

From: wrong island, N.Y.

My thoughts and prayers are with the Danko family on this 3 month day of his crossing over. Forgive me Paul Fleming , but I miss the E Landy photo on the site's home page. Jan can we have it back for a little while?


Posted on Sat Mar 11 01:16:34 CET 2000 from ch1smc.bellglobal.com (206.47.244.61)

Blind Willie McTell

I wanted to share some information from Eric Anderson (I hope he won't mind) about the Danko Fjeld Anderson live recordings from Japan a few years back.

I emailed him last week: "Hi Eric, came across your letter to Rick over the past week and have been going back and reading it almost every day. Excellent stories and very good writing. I had the privilege to meet Rick in 1993 in Toronto and found him to be one of the nicest, most genuine persons I have ever met. I love the DFA albums and reading that you guys were about to record here in Canada this year breaks my heart. Please release the Japanese tour material you did with Garth."

He responded: "Thank you.  We hope we can get the Japanese material.  We don't have it in our hands yet.  Thanks again and keep the faith. E"


Posted on Sat Mar 11 00:18:15 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime (p.s.)

My usual p.s. (t.b.y.p. Ragtime!): Yes it was Robbie, but maybe it was not St. Elsewhere but another hospital soap? On the other hand: how many American hospital soaps were shown on Dutch TV in the 80s?


Posted on Sat Mar 11 00:13:51 CET 2000 from sdn-ar-004nysyrap327.dialsprint.net (63.178.90.105)

Jim

Thanks for such a great page. I have a story I wanted to share with you all regarding Rick. I saw him open for Jorma at the Lone Star in New York somewhere around 1986-87. Just Rick and his acoustic (Guild) on stage. I was pretty much the closest person to the stage, and one of the youngest people there. I saw him at the bar afterwards, and he was really cool to me. I always appretiated that.


Posted on Sat Mar 11 00:10:18 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Robbie on St. Elsewhere? Now I'm gonna have to stay up late at night and catch the reruns on TVLand...so much for catching up on my rest...

Now that I think about it, I wonder if I didn't hear Robbie's voice as a caller on Frazier last year...I also understand that it's really HIS legs we saw playing the secretary on the Gary Moore show... ; )


Posted on Sat Mar 11 00:02:57 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

From: St. Anywhere

The search continues... as I understand my query caused a few sleepless nights... Thanks John D for the link, but I'm afraid our RR is among the "many many others" who once played a part in St. Elsewhere. I'm fully aware of who Howie Mandel is and who he was in the show. The man I remember looked a lot like... well not like Howie that's for sure. His character was visiting the hospital and he was talking and smiling to the nurses... I persist that it was Robbie, not only by his looks, but by his attitude as well... just like "Patch" in Carny.

On another note: I'm still enjoying Breeze Hill almost every day. Especially Twilight is wonderful - far better than the original reggae version. IMHO, that is. Of course...


Posted on Fri Mar 10 22:45:20 CET 2000 from trt-on59-79.netcom.ca (216.123.102.79)

John Donabie

Home page

About the RR thing and St. Elsewhere. Fellow Canadian actor Howie Mandel looked a lot like Robbie. I used to have people ask me if they were related. Don’t know if this helps fill in the mystery; but follow the Home Page above and it will tell you more about good old St. Eligius.


Posted on Fri Mar 10 22:35:12 CET 2000 from (63.68.1.228)

Gary Miller

From: Chester, NY

Hard to believe, but it has been three months since the passing of Rick, and everytime I listen I still feel that same aching inside. Don't want to bring anyone posting here down, but it just continues to seem so sad. Seems like in some way that now there will always be a little hollowness somewhere inside me. I hope you are resting well Rick, or maybe even making some kind of new heavenly music. Though I am just a fan - can't say I really knew you, I still miss your voice, and miss you. I hope Elizabeth and family and friends are doing well.


Posted on Fri Mar 10 21:29:31 CET 2000 from alb4-as5200-25-217.termserv.net (208.20.67.184)

Diamond Lil

Holy cow, Ragtime! St. Elsewhere used to be my favorite tv show (trust me on this..I have a friend who could tell you a story about me, pms, and a faulty tv antenna...) and I think I would remember if RR had been on there. Do you think perhaps it could have been an illusion, brought on by an over-consumption of Heinekens? I've heard of Elvis sightings..but RR sightings? Hmmm... :-)

John Donabie: I saw John Sebastian about a year and a half ago (with Rick) and his voice was in very bad shape then as well. I always liked him...sad to hear he hasn't gotten any better. Probably one of my all-time favorite tunes is his "Lady" ("I remember days that felt like it was rainin daisies"..) and he strained to do it that night. Seems like so many of the voices that have touched me are gone now.....


Posted on Fri Mar 10 21:08:46 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int01.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.67)

Bones

From: CT

Bashful Bill: Great post about the Rock Hall of Fame. It really is about the music, and these evenings are very special to all those who are involved.

I thought the VH-1 edited version was too choppy. Every single speech was shortened to sound bites. There was a four-song jam session which lasted at least 30 minutes, and they opted to show 3 songs to a total of 7 minutes. The last song of the evening was "Sweet Home Chicago" led by Clapton, which was omitted entirely.

Other highlights not shown were Earth Wind and Fire singing "That's The Way Of The World", James Taylor's "Mexico", and, believe it or not, The Lovin' Spoonful did a great version of "Did You Ever Have To Make Up Your Mind?" They obviously struggled with "Do You Believe In Magic?", so why show it? Last year's editing was a lot better.


Posted on Fri Mar 10 20:04:19 CET 2000 from proxy-676.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.216.76)

Scott

I think upstate NY in Decatur is going to be a mud pit this weekend. Better bring a huge supply of Band material to entertain myself while I wash the ol' truck !!!! I think I am in the mood for High On The Hog.....


Posted on Fri Mar 10 18:11:14 CET 2000 from dip226-223.acf.dhhs.gov (158.71.226.223)

Les Thierolf

From: Kansas City, Missouri

All you musicologists out there. Here is an article from the March 9, 2000 Washington Post about Leon Kagarise, an audiovideo technician from the 1950's who filmed and recorded country and rockabilly acts. He has a collection of records that at one time numbered over 145,000. His house is crammed with records, videos, photographs and CD's. An example of this goldmine is a recording of Johnny Cash live from 1962. I wonder if he ever recorded The Band?


Posted on Fri Mar 10 17:52:20 CET 2000 from ab7.abtech-dist.com (207.235.18.7)

Just Wonderin'

Ragtime: I have a copy of "Visiting Hours" with William Shatner and Lee Grant, but I certainly cannot find him in there. The credits list a "Robbie Robinson" and I think there may be an error in the Movie Database.


Posted on Fri Mar 10 15:52:25 CET 2000 from ns1.schuster.com (199.105.252.66)

Charlie Young

From: Down in Old Virginny

Ragtime: according to the Internet Movie Database (www.imdb.com), Robbie had a bit part in 1982 in a French-Canadian horror film which appears to have been set in a hospital. Another major Canadian music star, William Shatner, was also in the cast...


Posted on Fri Mar 10 14:57:52 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

More than a year ago I asked this before in the guestbook, but Nohoho, no answer came... If my mem'ry serves me well, I once watched Robbie Robertson (RR) playing as a guest star in an episode of Boston-based hospital soap Saint-Elsewhere somewhere down the 80s. Like Ruben Remus (RR) he ain't no doctor, nor a nurse or patient, but he played a visitor. Although I remember him very well, I can't get no, err, confirmation that what I saw is true. In fact there's no belief... tears of grief... Please help!


Posted on Fri Mar 10 14:03:05 CET 2000 from dialup-63.209.190.55.philadelphia1.level3.net (63.209.190.55)

Kel

From: Rehoboth, DE

I wrote in the guestbook a couple of weeks after Rick's death that I hadn't been able to listen to any of his music for fear that I would break down sobbing and my kids would think that I had lost it. Since then, I have finally been able to get my daily dose of the Band and still hold it together. But let me tell you, all it takes is listening to "Book Faded Brown" in the early morning, before my kids are out of bed, to bring the tears flowing again!! "It Makes No Difference" is another that gets me everytime, even before Rick died. I wanted to ask if anybody has read or heard any comments from Levon regarding Rick's death. I am sure he was crushed and was just interested in hearing what he had to say. One more comment, I found Levon's book last year in a bargain rack at the bookstore after looking for a long time (by far the best bargain I have ever found at .99, I felt like I had hit the jackpot!!)anyway, I breezed through it in 24 hours. I thought my father who loves old C&W and Delta Blues would enjoy at least the first half of it (he had no idea who the Band was). Well, he breezed through it in two days, then I caught him watching my Last Waltz tape while babysitting for me, then he borrowed TLW to take home. I think I have recruited a new fan!! Thanks for letting me ramble. This is one of the best websites I have found, period.


Posted on Fri Mar 10 03:02:12 CET 2000 from na3p41.ark.com (207.107.182.169)

ricardo

From: the rock

nice day if it dont rain


Posted on Fri Mar 10 00:26:05 CET 2000 from as5-d3-sc-psci.psci.net (63.65.189.67)

John Swaney

From: Indiana

I'm looking for a copy of the Complete Last Waltz/ The Last Moving Shadows/ and any other boots. Anybody out there who has these and can make me good quality copies can expect good $$$$. John


Posted on Thu Mar 9 23:10:16 CET 2000 from sdn-ar-004nysyrap127.dialsprint.net (63.178.89.191)

Jim

Hey everyone -- i've been trying to find a copy of the Complete Last Waltz, Crossing The Great Divide, Danko/Manuel at O'Toole's, or any other good live CD's. Any help would be greatly appretiated.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 22:43:49 CET 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: austin

picked up Clinton Heylin's "Bob Dylan- The Recording Sessions (1960-1994), St. Martin's press. Not particularly well written, but not bad. Some interesting things in there but he's not nice toward Robbie in a couple places regarding the Basement Tapes, which always bugs me when rock writers put him down, but I digress... heres a couple quotes from the book for the hell of it, anyway:

ROBBIE: "There was no particular reason for it. We weren't making a record. We were just fooling around. the purpose was whatever comes into anybody's mind, we'll put it down on this little tape recorder. SHITTY little tape recorder...we had that freedom of thinking, Well, no one's ever going to hear this anyway, so what's the difference? And then we thought, Well, maybe some of thewe songs would be good for other people to record."

Rob Fraboni remembers a conversation with Garth Hudson:

"Garth had the tape recorder next to him and he had a little (Altech) mixer and there weren't alot of mikes,(but) there were the vocal mikes, and the mikes that picked up other things in the room. I dont think they miked the drums. It was done with loose miking.One of the reasons it has such a cool atmosphere is because the vocalist was in the room with everybody. It's not a very big room, and with the leakage from the instruments getting into the vocal mike and then the room pickup you sort of feel the room- and that's because there wasn't (sic) alot of mikes used."


Posted on Thu Mar 9 22:37:15 CET 2000 from ab7.abtech-dist.com (207.235.18.7)

Just Wonderin'

Although the awards shows can be self gratifying and tedious, I like the fact that my teenage sons watch with me. At least Brittany Spears wasn't there and Ray Charles was! My 13 year old said "Is that the guy who recorded that cool song Hit the Road Jack?"

Besides what else is worth watching music related these days?


Posted on Thu Mar 9 22:08:27 CET 2000 from spider-to071.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.76)

Eye Believe

From: n.y.

Yes to Ed I will be there . as I have so many times before. can't get enough. And to Beth I have met R.R. Now enougho.k. I never wanted to offend anyone.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 22:05:10 CET 2000 from spider-tj021.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.181)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

You can say what you want about the RRHOF (and I would probably agree with a lot of it} but I always have a good time watching the VH1 excerpts during the last few years. Take this year's for example-where else in 2 hours are you going to see a line-up like that? The Moonglows were beautiful; Ray Charles dissing the R&R moniker(and Bonnie Raitt backing up the well-deserved diss}; Patti Smith; The Lovin Spoonful, my high point was seeing them onstage together, as worn and torn as they sounded( I was wandering about John Sebastion's voice also;James Taylor; E.C&R.R; even Diana Ross. I can't abide that woman, but I love almost any musical period in her history. She put out a great live album a few years ago called The Lady Sings Jazz&Blues accompannied by a PBS show. I highly recommend checking it out(if only she would shush between songs). And the inductees are often as entertaining as any other aspect, I thought John Mellencamp was great last night, as well as Melissa Etheridge and Patti Smith. In past years Mike Love, Neil Young, Mick Jagger,Bruuuuce, countless others have made great and sometimes unintentionally hilarious speeches. Until a few years ago, Rolling Stone mag was the only place giving serious coverage to the festivities, and I always lamented that these great shows weren't shared with the public. Our luck that they didn't start telivising until the year AFTER The Band were inducted. Back to my original point, it is almost always a good musical event. And as I've seen posted in this GB many times, it is the music that really matters. Believe me, I would never purchace a Diana Ross album otherwise{:


Posted on Thu Mar 9 21:12:24 CET 2000 from proxy-643.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.99)

CODY

From: Florida

"Where...do we go from here..and I ask......"


Posted on Thu Mar 9 19:32:34 CET 2000 from polaris-fw1.nspco.com (206.10.243.20)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

I thought RR's performance was splendid... and thoroughly enjoyed it... I also liked JT's comment regarding the trophy being deadly if it falls into the wrong hands... which followed the video clip where he said the same thing about nuclear bombs some 20 years ago or so... I too turned off the TV set thinking that these HOFers can still play... To me the highlight was the jam... My wife who scorns these awards shows found herself singing to Earth, Wind & Fire and especially Billy Holiday...


Posted on Thu Mar 9 19:07:17 CET 2000 from spider-wj052.proxy.aol.com (205.188.198.42)

Beth Radtke

From: Chicago suburbs

Eye Believe: how can you sign your post "Peace, love and understanding" after saying that Robbie won't have people at his memorial? If you've never met him, how can you possibly presume to know that? I think that was uncalled for. And the best way to be is like Rick was; loving and open, not divisive. --Beth


Posted on Thu Mar 9 18:10:57 CET 2000 from (137.187.146.128)

Alex Hoffman

From: Baltimore, MD

Did Eric Clapton manage to keep his guitar strap from falling off during the HOF jam w/Robbie? :)


Posted on Thu Mar 9 17:58:07 CET 2000 from 1cust188.tnt1.topeka.ks.da.uu.net (63.13.63.188)

Dexy

I just want to thank Bones for taking the time to provide info that none of the rest of us could otherwise have -- re: the Hall and his other contributions. Really great stuff, and a real treat.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 17:43:58 CET 2000 from proxy-636.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.70)

ED BLAYZOR

From: PATTERSON,NY

EYE BELIEVE: are you going to see Levon at the TOWNE CRIER 3/31?


Posted on Thu Mar 9 17:20:42 CET 2000 from spider-tq062.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.72)

Eye Believe

From: Pawling , N.Y.

Scrolling down the GB I saw a mention of Levon's book and perhaps bitterness between R.R. and Levon. At the service for our beloved Rick Danko R.R. spoke but Levon didn't. Eye believe Levon was there and so grief stricken that he may have not been able to be seen with R.R. . I've met Levon numerous times in the past 20 yrs. and all Eye will say is Levon is genuine as Garth is and Rick was ( difficult to use past tense). I will say this that I bet R.R. will NOT have a gathering of friends , loved ones and fans at his memorial service like the Danko family had. Thank-you Rick for making me see you have to stay on the sunny side of the street. Levon welcomes conversation and enjoys people. So do I . Peace , love and understanding.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 10:26:26 CET 2000 from (194.132.44.61)

Caroline Jarnmark

From: Sweden

I love Grease!!!


Posted on Thu Mar 9 08:52:18 CET 2000 from ti09a61-0136.dialup.online.no (130.67.56.136)

Groan Alone

From: Yes
Home page

I just read Eric Andersens letter to Rick.There's a lot of honesty,emotion and info in those lines.. Thanks for sharing it Eric.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 07:51:11 CET 2000 from spider-tr073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.208)

Liz Yaya

From: earth
Home page

The "Rock and Roll H of Fame" induction show on VH1 was wonderful this year.....Loved to see and hear Robbie !I loved his big, crunchy RAW distorted Fender sound on " Further on up the Road " with EC....I think he jammed really well on "Route 66" and "How sweet it is" too ! Wonderful to see my girls, my heroines, Patti Smith and Bonnie Raitt ........I recommend that you check this one out.......VH1 is replaying it often for the next few days.....I also loved the big hug with RR and EC at the end of " Further" Earth wind and Fire.Nat Cole, Natalie too, Diana Ross did an amazing acapella Billy Holliday tune too, everyone was calling it the "Rhythm and Blues Hall of Fame" this year, James Taylor was eloquent , He belongs there as well.............. and Brother Ray Charles too ! there are 2 addititional Jam songs being shown after the broadcast too.Clive Davis was honored..... nice..... BRAVO........at least we get to see this..... no complaints......"PLay on. Keep Listening..."


Posted on Thu Mar 9 07:25:27 CET 2000 from spider-we022.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.27)

Dennis

From: Two weeks ago there was a foot 'a snow, but today it hit 65 in Saugeries, NY

It's 1:07 am Thursday mornin' locally, must be time for a quick report on this evenin's Barn Burners show...wish YOU could have been there. As I believe I've reported earlier in this series, each of these shows have been more interesting then the last, and tonight was no exception: as Mr. Dener reported earlier, this evening's singer was none other than Port Jervis, New York's own Little Sammie Davis, nattily dressed from his head down to his two-tone black 'n white winged tips. Don't know if it was the Big East's basketball tourney on ESPN or the R'n R show, but tonight's show didn't have the attendence of last Wednesday's, but for the first time, I believe the ladies out numbered the men. Anyhow, the show started out rough, but about mid-first set, Mr.'s Davis and Hudson hit a groove and took off from there. By the time Ms. Amy Helm hit the stage, she complimented the ensemble wonderfully. Wish YOU could have been there! Before checkin' out, two quick notes: perhaps the Lake's proprietors have been checking out this site, they've booked Eric Andersen for this Friday evening... and on the little monthly flier of shows, they're publishing Levon 'n the Barn Burners (and guests) on Wednesdays through March. Once again, should anyone need directions or helpful hints, please don't hesitate to ask! Dennis


Posted on Thu Mar 9 06:23:00 CET 2000 from 1cust80.tnt2.iowa-city.ia.da.uu.net (63.25.167.80)

Paul Nyman

I also wanted to post an observation about tonights delayed airing of the R&RHOF (R&BHOF too!) induction cermony. I was very impressed by the talent tonight! I must admit that everyone is getting older (myself included!) and even in some rough spots - it was just great to see more artist getting recognized for the work they have contributed to our world/life in general.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 06:08:29 CET 2000 from trt-on58-34.netcom.ca (216.123.101.162)

John Donabie

From: Toronto

Before the music experts get to talking about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame show that was on VH-1 tonight, I thought I would make a few observations.

First of all. The other day I e-mailed VH-1 and asked why they always tape delay the show. Why not show it live? By the edits in the program tonight I guess I got that answer.

In purely the observation mode. What happened to John Sebastian's voice. It was painful to listen to. Maybe he had an off night. Perhaps throat problems. He seemed to lack volume and power and was a little off tune. The great Ray Charles for the first time, to me, reminded me he was getting old when he sang Nature Boy, The Nat King Cole classic. It wasn't Ray at his best...but I'll take Ray whenever I can

On the other hand the senior citizens of the evening, The Moonglows, were fantastic. The harmonies were beautiful. Clapton, Raitt & Earth Wind and Fire were going strong. Diana Ross was her normal self indulgent self. I think she was more into herself than Billie Holiday who she was inducting. Yes I know she played Billie in the movie; but I would have had a Cassandra Wilson, Sarah Vaughan, Nina Simone type bring her in.

I was glad to see the sideman category; but I truly believe that King Curtis should have been brought into the Hall on his own as a performer.

I love James Taylor; but I question if the Hall of Fame is where he should be. I used to ask people (seriously) if they ever thought Pat Boone would be let in. Everyone laughed and said "of course not" he's a pop crooner. Well that "pop crooner" had a lot of #1 hits. I don't think of James when I think of Rock and Roll. I'm not knocking him....I'M A FAN; but if they can let him in then there may be hope for Pat. And last but on least Robbie Robertson shows once again that he is first and foremost a great guitar player.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 06:06:20 CET 2000 from d231.as1.eatn.oh.voyager.net (207.90.96.167)

Dave Stewart

Iam pleased to see this web site. Been and advid fan like all of us for how long? Any way my reason for being here at this time is to really give praise to the great concert film of all time. The Last Waltz is a video that is hard to stay away from. I like how this was arranged from beginning to the end. alot of stars crossed paths with this famous BAND !I want to know when it will get it`s final due and be re released on to dvd ? This would be my choice to put on 5.1 dts surround in a heart beat . Please if any one reads this we fans of this band would really love this. I know Iwould Robbie Robertson please we need your help on this one Bring this out on DVD. It would be truly a masterpeice as it already is but the sound would be the ultimate on 5.1 DTS surround.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 05:18:50 CET 2000 from pc19f63d3.dip.t-dialin.net (193.159.99.211)

Wolle

From: Germany
Home page

CD-Tip:Memory of the Future/Eric Andersen,with Rick Danko and Garth Hudson.Super Folkrocksongs!!!


Posted on Thu Mar 9 04:34:35 CET 2000 from spider-tk061.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.201)

Bumbles

From: Over at Mary's Place

As has been mentioned before, the likeliest source for the Band's "Country Boy" is Sam Cooke's posthumous 1965 album Shake, where it appears (as "I'm Just a Country Boy") in a version that could well have been a model for Richard Manuel's. Shake also included the then-recent hit "A Change Is Gonna Come."


Posted on Thu Mar 9 04:07:42 CET 2000 from p3e9eae60.dip.t-dialin.net (62.158.174.96)

Wolle

From: Germany / Hamburg
Home page

Hallo The Band, Concerte-2000 Germany???????? New Cd-2000 ????? Pleace!!!!!!!


Posted on Thu Mar 9 01:48:20 CET 2000 from pm456-11.dialip.mich.net (198.110.21.69)

Twilight

I think Harry Belafonte took a stab at Country Boy in the 50's.


Posted on Thu Mar 9 00:25:28 CET 2000 from sjiassoc16.erols.com (208.58.12.144)

Jon Lyness

From: New York City

Thanks, Bones & everyone else, for the heads-up on the Hall of Fame ceremony. It's showing on VH1 tonight, 9pm eastern. Looking forward to it!


Posted on Wed Mar 8 23:53:54 CET 2000 from spider-tr014.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.179)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

I have a question to throw out there into Bandland, also. Does anyone know if Ed Sullivan has ever been inducted, or even considered, in the HOF non-performer category? I think he would be an appropriate choice. And another HOF note, I'm glad that The Band were inducted in Rick's lifetime as he was obviously proud of this achievement.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 23:21:31 CET 2000 from ppp-208-0-40-13.cust.wlm.dca.net (208.0.40.13)

sam chaz

From: Wilm. DE

I'm looking for the guitar chords to Book Faded Brown. Can someone out there in BandLand help me out? Thanks.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 23:03:00 CET 2000 from pop-198-144-39-112.city-net.com (198.144.39.112)

Mark Stroup

From: Pittsburgh

I'm trying to find out more about the song "Country Boy." Before it was recorded by The Band, I remember hearing the Don Williams version back in 1981. Does anybody know about the songwriters Brooks and Barer?


Posted on Wed Mar 8 21:12:04 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int02.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.68)

Bones

From: CT

I was lucky enough to attend the Hall of Fame Induction Dinner Monday night. It was an incredible night for all Band lovers. Robbie returned the favor and inducted Clapton. Robbie gave a very nice speech. He joked about Eric coming to Woodstock to join the Band, not knowing if he wanted to take his job or share his job as guitar player. After the speech was over, Eric and Robbie embraced, and Eric grinned and told the crowd that he wanted to be the Band's "rhythm guitar" player. Robbie laughed and made a gesture thanking him. After Eric played a beautiful "Tears In Heaven", he told the crowd that he was going to do an homage to The Last Waltz and invited Robbie back on stage. "Further On Up The Road" was sensational and the obvious highlight of the evening for me. Right after it was over, Paul McCartney was next up to induct JT, and Paul could not help but comment on how great Robbie and Eric had just been. A magical night! It will be interesting to see what VH-1 shows, and I will be glad to comment later to fill in the pieces.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 19:50:00 CET 2000 from proxy-553.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.143)

ED BLAYZOR

From: PATTERSON,NY

JCF: i think levon`s bitterness towards robbie is mainly because he was really close and loved him like a brother and then felt betrayed by him in the end.although in the book he tells of the rift between them he also writes a lot of good things about robbie. and underneath the hurt you can tell he still cares a lot for robbie.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 19:11:30 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.223)

David Powell

From: Georgia

The Ides of March is just around the corner and I agree with Laura Holt's post. Recently I was fortunate to acquire a CD-R of a Rick Danko & Richard Manuel performance from 1985 that was recorded in Scranton, Pa. In a way it breaks your heart just to hear the two of them, but with all the other parts stripped away you can clearly hear the special magic that they added to the ensemble playing of the Band.

On the home front--please excuse this shameless plug: If any guestbook readers in the Atlanta area want to enjoy a pleasant evening of live music, award-winning micro-brewed beer & good Mexican food, come on out this coming Friday night to the U.S. Border Cantina in Alpharetta, Ga. I will be accompanying my friend Steve on lead guitar. He sings & plays acoustic guitar, I play electric. We're both two old farts who play covers from around the first Woodstock era, including "The Weight" and "All Along The Watchtower." Recently we've added some Counting Crows, R.E.M. and "The Bowie Who Sold The World" a la Nirvana. If you're in the neighborhood, come on out & celebrate the joy of music. Requests are welcomed and who knows, if we can attract a few more fans of the Band we'll have to do some more of their songs at our twice-a-month gigs. Now, back to the regular programing.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 17:16:28 CET 2000 from (207.159.242.158)

JCF

From: New York

I started Levon's book on Thurdsay evening, and basically had read the whole thing by Sunday. It is obvious in the book that his relationship with Robertson is bitter. However yesterday I read elsehwere that the publisher encouraged him to emphasize the rift between them, and that on his promotional tour for the book he disavowed a lot of what he wrote. So I don't know what to make of the book.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 17:00:48 CET 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

From: Toronto

Here's a link to R&B singer Matt Lucas's website, which mentions Hawkins and has a picture of the Hawks' old agent, Harold Kudlets. When he was up here from Florida at Christmas (which seems a bizarre thing to do, family or not), Matt told me all sorts of yarns about playing second drums as a guest artist with Hawkins and the Hawks in the early '60s when his "Movin' On" was a hit. And about later being 'rescued' by Hawkins - who put together a band for him with people like Stan Szelest and Sandy Konikoff.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 15:32:00 CET 2000 from spider-wg072.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.52)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa, N,Y.

I finished reading the March issue of Ice magazine and found something else of interest to share: in a readers poll of the top 10 bootlegs of all time Dylan and the Hawk's Guitars Kissing and the Contemporary Fix was #2, right behind a Beatles boot at #1! Another Beatles made the list, a Beach Boys(Smile), also U2, the Stones, Springsteen(twice), Nirvana, and the Who. Contemporary Fix of course was so good and so widely bootlegged (under a variety of titles,mine is simply titled Bob Dylan & The Band Live in England May 1966} that Columbia finally released it officially last year(33 years late).


Posted on Wed Mar 8 15:07:06 CET 2000 from maxtnt01-phl-19.fast.net (206.245.144.19)

Luke J. Petrick

From: 91.3 fm WLVR Bethlehem, Lehigh Unv. Radio

On Sat. March 4,2000, I had the pleasure of bringing to the stage, my firends, Jim Weider & The Honky Tonk Gurus. The same stage that had ben graced by Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Albert Collins, Albert King, and a host of other "blues" greats. The appreciative crowd (approx. 200) let them know they were worthy of performing on this sacred ground. If you haven't seen them "live" yet, get out and see them. The first time I saw them perform, I drove 3.5 hours to Woodstock, NY, July 1998. I've caught their act several times since, closer to home, and they magicaly top their previous gig. Their CD "Big Foot" is also a joy to listen to. I've played all the tracks on my radio program, Cadillac Blues with The Commander, Mon mornings 6-8a 91.3 fm WLVR Bethlehem.The best thing to happen to Monday mornings in the Lehigh Valley. Go see them. The Commander


Posted on Wed Mar 8 13:21:11 CET 2000 from gateway.tono.no (212.71.68.22)

Jens Magnus

From: Norway

Ilkka. Seier`n er din! I was wondering for a while, "is The weight from Big Pink or from The Band?" Then I thought: "Dixie is from Big Pink, so The weight is from The Band". My precious vinyl is at home, and I did not bother to look it up in the grand discography brought to you by JH. But then; you're right. It is the other way around: The weight/ Big Pink. In the heyday of the greatest rock band ever!


Posted on Wed Mar 8 11:53:42 CET 2000 from r-53.87.alltel.net (166.102.53.87)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

Go here for a nice article with a number of comments on the Clapton-Robertson duo in HOF awards.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 09:56:37 CET 2000 from du159-2.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.2.159)

Ilkka (protesting)

WAIT! WAIT! - 'The Weight' is from 'Music from Big Pink' not from 'The Band'
Sorry Jens Magnus, it seems like Sejer e' var, sejer e' var :))))


Posted on Wed Mar 8 09:21:33 CET 2000 from du34-3.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.3.34)

Ilkka

From: Nordic Countries
Home page

Douglas, the song you are listening to is . . . WHAT??? Has that Norwegian skier Jens Magnus already passed me and reached the Finish line?
Douglas, while Jens Magnus is giving his winner interview I'd like to say you this:
For thirty years ago I sat in my grandma's kitchen and listened to that particularly song without knowing who The Band was. After that, their music has given me great joy, tears, power and dark moments. And when I thought it was all over, it gave me this site to "hang on", friends from all over the world, knowledge, but also grief and despair. If The Band and the music can give you only one per cent of these feelings, you are a lucky man.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 08:57:30 CET 2000 from gateway.tono.no (212.71.68.22)

Jens Magnus

From: Norway

Douglas, the lyrics go: "I pulled in to Nazareth, I was feeling 'bout half past dead. I just need to find a place where a man can lay his head. Hey mr. can you tell me where a man might find a bed. He just grinned and shook his head and No was all he said". This is the first verse from the song "The weight" Robbie Robertson, from the album The Band.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 07:26:17 CET 2000 from spider-tj034.proxy.aol.com (152.163.213.189)

Douglas

I dont have any comments, but I have a very important (?) I dont know all the words to the song, Im not even sure if The Band sings it but it does sound alot like them. Ok here we go it says in one part "I went down to Nazerith" and in another part it says, "Hey Mr. can you help me, find a place to rest my head, he turned and looked at me, 'no' was all he said" I would really appriciate it if anbody can tell me what song it is and what album it is on even if it is not The Band. Thank you very much. Douglas


Posted on Wed Mar 8 07:12:14 CET 2000 from 209-239-193-121.oak.jps.net (209.239.193.121)

Phil

From: Ca

I would also like to thank David for the RnRhof link. As for Zal's guitar, it is a Guild...and I think that model is the "Jet Star". Fender now owns Guild and they have a current model that looks like a replica under the name of "De Armond" for $430.00 ( they may also have a Guild model ) . It is a cool looking, funky guitar that seems to not know if it wants to be an SG or a Strat. I don't recall any one else ever playing that particular guitar. Any one else ever seen it...?


Posted on Wed Mar 8 06:13:39 CET 2000 from spider-tf061.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.201)

Liz//yaya

From: The MardisGras
Home page

Just thought you might want to know, Mardis Gras -Fat Tuesday ends at midnight, at 5 of.........WWOZ New Orleans played an an amazing version of "Life is a Carnival" to end Mardis Gras 2000-wonderful, who was that ? a live version, very old too......Bon Temps Roulleux........Yaya


Posted on Wed Mar 8 03:21:18 CET 2000 from proxy-363.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.63)

Scott

Hang tough everyone. Richard in March of 86 and Rick just this past December..... Watching the drums and drumming video, Rick looked like he was having a great time playing bass, singing and doing the Danko bounce and dance. I might have posted this before but I remember the first time I saw Rick at a benefit show in NYC w/Garth in the early 90's. I was allready into The Band but that live show, his voice, his unique guitar playing style, his dancing and gentle spirit hooked me for good {and of course Garth's brilliant playing}. From then on it was upward and onward dicovering all his wonderful music.... What is the best way to pay respect and keep his spirit alive. Well, certainly gathering up all the albums (Band, solo, guest appearances and boots). Turning friends onto the music. But I believe the most important way is to continue to support all the music and shows out of the Band camp. Levon and The Barn Burners, The Honky Tonk Gurus, Garth, The Cromatix and anything else down the line....Keep the music alive. I am guessing Rick and Richard would be proud {Just my humble opinion}.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 03:06:40 CET 2000 from trt-on66-96.netcom.ca (216.123.97.224)

John Donabie

From: Toronto
Home page

I was so pleased to see Zal in the picture that David Powell linked us to. He is a man that lives for "now." When I interviewed him last year about his livelihood; which is his fabulous restaurant, Chez Piggy, in Kingston Ontario, the Spoonful was not a subject he wanted to dwell on. The reason was simple to him. "That was then and Now is Now." No hard feelings.....he just got on with life. Therefore it was great to see him brought into the Hall of Fame. He looked like he was having a great time. If your ever in Kingston drop into Chez Piggy. Zal is almost always there, smiling and talking with the guests.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 02:37:43 CET 2000 from pm3-152.efn.org (206.163.180.152)

deb

From: oregon

Hey Audra; let's get our own discussion going. I TOTALLY agree with your statement about Levon, Rick, and Robbie. If they were combined into one man, wouldn't that just be about the most perfect and talented guy you could imagine! It's nice to see such diversified musicians with such strong character and personality, in very presentable packages. Hope this doesn't offend too many; I know that drooling may be politically incorrect, but oh, well, it's just one woman's OPINION, and since that is what this GB is about, I have said my peace.


Posted on Wed Mar 8 02:36:13 CET 2000 from tcnet25-049.austin.texas.net (209.99.97.238)

LAURA HOLT

From: Austin, TX

I think things are sort of weird right now in the GB. It's March...the month of Richards passing. It's hard to believe it's been 14 years that he has been gone! Now we have Ricky to deal with. Let's all understand that we are all feeling sort of out of sorts because of the whole "March thing" with Richard and NONE of us have even begun (at least I haven't) to get over Ricks death. Peace and happiness to all BAND FANS out there. HANG in there...I am. RIP Richard and Ricky...I know you both are having one hell of a jam session up there!!!!!!


Posted on Wed Mar 8 01:12:03 CET 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: texas

peter v: great post. I'll have to track down that Rolling stone interview. very interesting, I too am most fascinated by the transition from the HAWKS to the BAND year(S?)

great to hear people talkin here about the late, very great Clifford "Honky Tonk" Scott. He was a beautiful, fun, very humble fellow who played the local clubs here in Austin. One memory I'll never forget was when I was working at Antones Club we had a big marquee sign that was about 20 feet up off the ground. You used a long extender pole to put the letters up. No one put his name up the day before so when I came in to work I had to do it. since there was nothing up I used all of them I could so it said something like

CLIFFORD

HONKY TONK

SCOTT

IN PERSON TONITE ONLY

I'll never forget the ear to ear smile on his face when he arrived at the club and saw the sign like that. it was a neat moment for me. sadly, he passed away shortly after from cancer. a very brave, warm, cool fellow who made the world a better place to be.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 21:39:44 CET 2000 from du-tele3-047.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.47)

Peter Viney

Bill: You and me seem the most interested in the era between Hawkins and Big Pink! So here’s what I know. According to her fascinating Rolling Stone interview, from 10 December 1981, (Life without James) Carly Simon was adopted as a protege by Albert Grossman (after break upof The Simon Sisters) who planned a debut album which would launch her as a ‘female Dylan’. Four tracks were produced by Bob Johnson in New York, including Baby let me follow you down with new lyrics by Carly Simon and Bob Dylan. Artists on the sessions were Robbie Robertson (later featured on her Mockingbird), Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, Mike Bloomfield and Al Kooper. She argued with Grossman and the album was scrapped. The 1981 Carly Simon interview in Rolling Stone mentioned discussing the tracks with Dylan ‘a week before the crash’ (which was on 29 July 1966). Sources such as The Rolling Stone Encylopedia of Rock ‘n’ Roll and the 1973 NME Book of Rock give the session date as September 1966. This might explain the absence of a drummer listed on the session – Levon wasn’t around then. The Guinness Book of Rock Stars gave the date as September 1967 in its first edition. The emergence of a September 1967 demo by The Band (Orange Juice Blues) on Across The Great Divide make the later date seem possible. And Levon still wouldn’t have been around. Anybody got anymore?


Posted on Tue Mar 7 20:14:44 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.223)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Yes it's really true how nothing matters, but of course it's the Lovin' Spoonful (after the Mississippi John Hurt line). And that talented guitarist's (from Toronto) last name is Yanovsky. Looking at that picture from last night's jam-- Robbie, Eric & Bonnie all playing Strats and there's Zal with that old crazy-looking, solid bodied Guild? electric.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 20:04:41 CET 2000 from (137.187.144.172)

Jonathan Katz

From: Columbia, MD

I saw a clip of the HOF induction ceremony on one of the morning shows. Clapton was playing "Further on Up The Road" with Robbie accompanying him. I wonder if Robbie took a solo, and if so, did he outperform Slow Hand again?


Posted on Tue Mar 7 20:00:24 CET 2000 from client-151-198-146-4.bellatlantic.net (151.198.146.4)

Bumbles

From: Coconut Grove

DAVID POWELL: No need to be so formal---it is and always has been Lovin' Spoonful.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 19:00:50 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Robbie returned the favor and inducted Clapton...


Posted on Tue Mar 7 18:35:08 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.223)

David Powell

From: Georgia

While Capitol still hasn't properly remastered The Band's catalog, as others here have reported, The Loving Spoonful have have now received better treatment. Buddha Records has just released a Greatest Hits collection of 26 Spoonful songs with plans to release their entire catalog. For the first time on CD these songs have been remastered from the recently discovered, long-lost session master tapes. Original group members John Sebastian and Joe Butler helped supervise the project. Bob Irwin mastered this wonderful-sounding CD at his Sundazed Studios in Coxsackie, NY. Yes, this is the same Dr. Irwin who produced the Byrds reissue project.

To view a picture of Robbie Robertson jamming with the Spoonful's Zal Zanovsky, Eric Clapton, Bonnie Raitt and Melissa Etheridge at last night's R&R Hall of Fame ceremonies go here.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 17:56:14 CET 2000 from spider-tk024.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.184)

bob wigo

From: havertown, pa.

Can anyone here provide direct e-mail access to the management of the following artists; Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, John Hiatt and Dr. John ? This is a business matter. I appreciate any help and ask that you e-mail the information to the address above. Thank you.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 16:53:26 CET 2000 from gw.itac.ca (209.146.161.1)

Bill

Crabgrass's mention of James Taylor reminded me, for some reason, of a session that Carly Simon talked a bit about in a Rolling Stone piece around the time of her first solo hit, "That's The Way It Should Be" (or something like that). Seems that the musicians on her first session after the breakup of the Simon Sister included Robbie Robertson (and Kooper and Brooks I think). Wasn't released, unfortunately. Anybody remember any other details?


Posted on Tue Mar 7 16:46:38 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

According to Reuters, that Robbie joined Clapton for his set and the big jam last night. Clapton played "Tears from Heaven," and reportedly Robbie joined him for "Further on Up the Road." No reports of straps breaking in the middle of the song...in case you are wondering. ; )

VH-1 will be broadcasting the induction ceremony this Wednesday night...

matt


Posted on Tue Mar 7 15:06:15 CET 2000 from spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.33)

Bashful Bill

From: Minoa,N.Y.

I often don't get to the GB on weekends and catch up on Mon. or Tues. When I do this I always wonder if I will also catch up on some new(or old} cotroversy in the process. Anyway, the last couple weeks there was a lot of Long Black Veil threads. I read the March Ice mag yesterday and noted that David Grisman is releasing another Jerry Garcia collaberation titled The Pizza Tapes. 2 titles of interest here are Long Black Veil and Knockin On Heaven's Door. The same page also has a short article about the release of the Flying Burrito Bros. original 3 albums being re-released on a 2-disc set. Great music from some of the original pioneers of "country rock" (along with Rick Nelson and Mike Nesmith IMHO}. Also an article on the afore-mentioned Lovin Spoonful Anthology . Also read some stuff which will be of interest to GB regulars Peter Viney and Diamond Lil which I will e-mail to you guys. MattK- I share your opinion, though I suspect not as strongly, about David Sanborn. Have you heard Songs From The Night Before, his live album from a couple years ago? It's not bad. Finally, Rick, I promise to answwer your E-mail, probably tonite.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 12:22:47 CET 2000 from r-53.60.alltel.net (166.102.53.60)

Martha Page

From: Georgia

There is Robbie--playing with Clapton at the Hall of Fame Awards.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 08:39:05 CET 2000 from jfinn-0.dsl.speakeasy.net (216.254.13.225)

Mike Nichols

From: Seattle
Home page

I am really interested in 2 of the band's instruments. 1) A guild acoustic owned by Rick Danko for years amnd totally beat up but beutiful. Anyone know where it is? 2) The bronze guitar Robbie played at the Last Waltz... Howd he get that color? Just spray paint? I heard he breonzed it, but wouldnt that burn up the wood? ANy ideas? Thansk mucho!


Posted on Tue Mar 7 08:20:52 CET 2000 from host4.pm4.laurel.us.net (198.240.94.4)

mattk

All things being equal, I'd prefer to chat about music...

That said, Clifford Scott is absolutely a glaring omission on my part. Scott himself recorded jazz records, and played on some terrific jazz sides with Ray Charles' jazz band of the early sixties. Leaving him off was a particularly onerous oversight on my part.

I'd also like to add Cecil "Big Jay" Mcneely to my list. No discussion of honking, lying-on-your-back saxophonists is complete without him. These theatrics, as noted, could often distract from otherwise good players, but just as it's difficult to mention Jimi, without mentioning behind-the-head playing, and picking with your teeth, it still need not distract from otherwise great playing.

McNeely was certainly theatrical, but a great musician and highly influential all the same. McNeely's work on Excelsior with Johnny Otis, as well as a leader on tunes like "Deacon's Hop" and "3-D" --the latter being a particularly brilliant bit of two-part polyphonic improvisation between Big Jay on tenor and brother Bob on bari.

Honkers were the order of the day in the late 40s and into the 1950s. Both Clifford Scott and Big Jay cited Jacquet's solo on Flying Home as key. The bulk of Jacquet's career was in jazz, true, but in this one recording, Jacquet, in a fundamental way, set the course for a sound that would be popularized and honed by the likes of Scott, Mcneely, and a plethora of others we've ALL neglected to mention, like Hal Singer, Lynn Hope, Willis, "Gatortail" Jackson, Joe Houston, and Grady Gaines (I'll avoide the temptation to toss in Sam Butera).

Of course, we have yet to mention any of the Chess session players like like Harold Ashby, Bob Neely, "Little Sax" Crowder and Donald Hankins...and we're all reserved a warm spot in the afterlife for neglecting to mention Louis Jordan.

Though I still stand by my assertion that Curtis, Walker and Bostic are the big three (with Jacquet under influences), missing players in a hall featuring NO sax players before this evening.

More!

Matt


Posted on Tue Mar 7 07:46:48 CET 2000 from 1cust11.tnt9.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.128.11)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Congratulations to James Taylor upon his induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. My only question - what took so long? Taylor has been churning out some of the hardest driving Rock 'n' Roll albums for over 30 years!! I recall literally ripping my trousers on the dance floor more than once while dancing to his wild rebellious sounds!

And why was Levon passed over again this year in the Rock Drummer category? And Benny Goodman belongs in there too, and Liberace, and Engelbert Humperdinck, and what about Tom Jones, and Ed Sullivan? And shouldn't Robbie be inducted again as a presenter? I'm starting to think the whole thing's fixed!


Posted on Tue Mar 7 06:47:43 CET 2000 from spider-wa014.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.24)

fish

From: beaumont tx.

great web site. thanks to molly for all of her time spent on the sight. i love the band. especialy all of the stuff about rick danko since his passing.. keep up the good work. thanks. fish man.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 05:40:25 CET 2000 from user-33qt899.dialup.mindspring.com (199.174.161.41)

Jeb Stuart

From: Virginia

Aren't Opinions fabulous? Don't you love people with Opinions? Don't you love to learn from people with Opinions? I sure do. I'm so in awe of Opinions. Please, everyone with Opinions, more, more, more.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 05:02:40 CET 2000 from proxy.lfpress.com (204.101.153.10)

Mike Nomad

From: Great White North (now semi-green)

Earl Bostic. Wow! Now that brings back memories . . . .


Posted on Tue Mar 7 04:45:45 CET 2000 from z45.codenet.net (209.136.121.45)

Audra Bezio

From: Colorado Springs CO

A very LOUD and heartfelt THANK YOU to the designers of this webpage. I am recent Band devotee myself-little did I realize that some of my favorite songs by other artists were aided & abetted by Band members-like "All Our Past Times" by Eric Clapton. Like a completely besotted groupie, I have watched and drooled over "The Last Waltz" many times, particularly over Levon, Rick & Robbie. (They are sooo fine-they just don't make men like that anymore....) Also, thank you for the tributes to Rick Danko on the site-just when I found him, he'd gone-I think "It Makes No Difference" is one of his best performances. Please keep up the good work-I fully intend to save this site in my "Favorites" list. This site gives my heart a throb to the bottom of my feet, Audra Bezio


Posted on Tue Mar 7 04:15:40 CET 2000 from (209.167.110.176)

Opinion

...right on Mr. Bumbles, I forgot to mention Lee. But then there were so many...Mr Grubb is likely too young to have heard of them all. He can only mention the ones he read about..


Posted on Tue Mar 7 04:09:24 CET 2000 from spider-wa022.proxy.aol.com (205.188.192.27)

Bumbles

From: On the Roof

AND no one played on more great R'n'R records than tenor man Lee Allen, whose solo score with "Walkin' with Mr. Lee" was a small part of a story that included Fats Domino, Huey Smith, and hundreds more.


Posted on Tue Mar 7 02:06:12 CET 2000 from ts135-64.advanix.net (209.235.135.64)

Jose

From: Lodi, New Jersey

Does anyone know how to get a hold of "The Complete Last Waltz"...does such a thing exist?


Posted on Tue Mar 7 01:46:40 CET 2000 from (209.167.110.188)

Another opinion

...and speaking of influences, where is recognition for Sil Austin and Ace Cannon ??


Posted on Tue Mar 7 00:42:19 CET 2000 from (209.167.110.195)

In my opinion..

It's all very well to mention King Curtis and Earl Bostic, but our Sax "expert" failed to mention the real Rock and Roll sax influences: Big Al Sears who toured with Allen Freed's Show Bands of the 50's, Rudy Pompilli from Bill Haley's Comets and most of all the originator of the most famous of R & R's sax solos on Bill Dogget's "Honky Tonk", Clifford Scott. Scott was a big influence on Garth. As a matter of fact, Garth rediscoverd the man and got him recording again after years in obscurity. Illinois Jacquet and Marshall Royal are jazz saxists first and foremost... they temporarily jumped on the bandwagon for a few quick bucks when jazz gigs were lean, as did Lionel Hampton. Jacquet's honking while lying, wriggling on his back was not very convincing rock. Do more research Mr.Grubb. before trying to enlighten us here.

BTW, Clifford Scott has two CD's on the market, not recent but very interesting. He hasn't lost his touch or sound 40 years later.


Posted on Mon Mar 6 22:46:51 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.223)

David Powell

From: Georgia

This past Saturday National Public Radio aired an excellent, short profile of Mac Rabennack a.k.a. Dr. John on the Weekend Edition Saturday program. You can listen to a replay of the entire 17 minute segment on NPR's website at:

www.npr.org/programs/wesat/

Click on "latest show" (3/4/00) and then scroll down to the Dr. John segment listing. An interview with the Doctor is included.


Posted on Mon Mar 6 22:36:09 CET 2000 from spider-we081.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.56)

Lee

Re. Hall of Fame. Great to see Scotty Moore being inducted this year... but no mention of D.J. Fontana. Holy s*#t, that can't be right.


Posted on Mon Mar 6 22:12:17 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Is anyone going to the HOF inductions this evening? Last year, we had some wonderful next-day reviews of what turned out to be one of the best jams in years. I'll be watching on Wed., but a sneak preview would be excellent.

Also, does anyone know if RR is inducting or just there in his HOF capacity and as a narrator as he was last year? Seems like both Clapton and King Curtis (who RR has listed as a major influence)would be good candidates.

Wouldn't it be cool, with King Curtis going in, to have Garth on hand as well? I know (from recent inclusion of the "portrait of the band as young hawks" article on this site), that Garth mentions King Curtis. Sadly, I expect we'll end up with some lamer like David Sanborn or Kenny G inducting the King...

Which gives me yet another chance to complain about the Hall's exclusion of sax players. It's a crime that King Curtis is only going in now, and going in as a sideman--he should have gone in as a performer, IMHO. In addition, wheret he hell are Junior Walker and Earl Bostic? These two should have been in the hall years and years ago (Bostic probably as an influence)...and yet.

I think it's sax discrimination (pun, unfortunately, implied)...

Seriously, the saxophone was the main solo instrument in early rock and roll, and deserved attention from the HOF via some amazing contributors and influences. Yet, there is NOT ONE SINGLE SAX PLAYER in the HOF until The King goes in tonight...bad bad bad. For the record, here's my list of sax players that should be in either as performers or influences:

  • Junior Walker (Motown staple, major influence on more modern sax players in rock and r&b; huge hits with Shotgun, How Sweet It Is (to be love by you), Pucker Up Buttercup; Cleo's Mood)
  • Earl Bostic (father of R&B sax; somewhat villified in jazz circles because he was reputedly the only sax player that could keep up with Charlie Parker, but parlayed his abilities in a more "commercial" R&B career)
  • Illinois Jacquet (his "Flying Home" solo with Lionel Hampton is a watershed in the evolution of sax playing and really defines the honking style that Bostic popularized)
  • Marshall Royal (made his name as Count Basie's lead alto player in the 1950s and 1960s; arguably the greatest blues sax player ever)
  • Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson - Ok, maybe THIS is the greatest blues sax player ever...flip a coin; Eddie would be an influence by rights of his sax playing and even his singing; his "Mr. Cleanhead" and "Cherry Red" are jump blues classics
  • Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis - another great blues-jazz crossover artist who influenced an incredible number of sax players in the R&R era; sideman with HOF influences inductee, T-Bone Walker; when I hear Garth, I hear a lot of Lockjaw
  • David "Fathead" Newman (Ray Charles' right hand man during his seminal Atlantic recordings of the 1950s; Fathead also made a name as a writer/arranger in Hollywood, and as a performer in his own right)
  • Daddy "Boots" Randolph - known these days as something of a novelty act, Boots made himself famous with "yakkety sax;" his quick-hitting, percussive style was a major influence on both rock and country players
  • Maceo Parker - Probably goes in as a sideman, ideally with Fred Wesley and Pee Wee; defined funk sax playing with his work with James Brown in the JB Horns, George Clinton, and in his own solo work and albums with Wesley and Pee Wee
  • Andrew Love - ideally, would go in as a sideman with trumpeter Wayne Jackson: Jackson and Love are the Memphis Horns, which, defined the Stax/Volt horn sound

Undoubtedly there are others, but these folks are the most glaring omissions. I can maybe understand Maceo Parker's and Andy Love not being in yet, since they are ideal sidemen category candidates. There is NO excuse for Bostic, Jacquet, Walker and King Curtis not to be in ALREADY...

Fight the Power ; )

Matt


Posted on Mon Mar 6 20:34:42 CET 2000 from 56k-palm-00-14.dial.qnet.com (209.221.196.29)

java blues

Well I just wanted to say to Daniel... Have you got a minute, pay attention... I was informed about the rude and totally unqualified letter you posted on this site and was appalled. It sounds to me like you have been scorned or something... or perhaps you just have a stone for a heart. I've read Eric Anderson's farewell to Rick and that was truly from the heart which is something Rick was often fond of saying. For Eric to write and share his memories was something that I believe to be truly Joyous and giving. How you could take that sentiment and turn it into, into, something so dark... It is too bad that you are so unappreciative of one mans thoughts, memories, and obvious love for Rick.. May you Memory serve you breakfast Daniel, but watch out for food poisoning... Sincerely, Java Blues


Posted on Mon Mar 6 18:41:38 CET 2000 from edslink8.eds.com (199.228.142.8)

carmen

From: pa

Some BAND connections from VH1's 100 Greatest Women In Rock:

Staple Sisters (Forgot rank)

Bessie Smith @ # 26

Emmylou Harris @ #21

Joni Mitchell @#5.

RR was also interviewed and spoke highly of Carol King.


Posted on Mon Mar 6 18:19:02 CET 2000 from alb3-as5200-22-118.termserv.net (208.20.67.118)

Diamond Lil

MattK/Carmen: Both of your posts seem to describe what I think alot of folks are feeling right now. The losses. It brings a restless edge that's sometimes hard to shake. I know that I have been trying to be a bit more positive in here lately, but that old, too-familiar pain starts to hit and it's difficult.

Jan started this wonderful website many years after Richard's death..and together..we all remember him. But all of us went through Rick's death here together..perhaps at different levels..but we all felt it just the same. And still do. Maybe that's why we're feeling a bit lost now for the positive things. They _are_ there though. Let's all try and look harder. We have Levon doing wonderfully, playing with the Barn Burners every Wednesday night at Joyous Lake, and taking it on the road very soon. We have Garth doing quite a few shows, and Robbie showing up on the R&R Hall of Fame awards this week. We have both Rick and Richard's voices living through their music, and hopefully Rick's last cd will be finished by the spring or summer. And of course, we have Jan, who provides us all with a place to get together and share it all.

How's that for positivity? Keep smiling everyone...the lost are found.


Posted on Mon Mar 6 17:20:06 CET 2000 from edslink8.eds.com (199.228.142.8)

carmen

From: pa

Mattk, I was thinking about how many of the recent posts have been negative. In my opinion we are all getting restless. Before Rick's passing, we were all discussing the BREEZE HILL release, Rick's shows and looking forward to new projects. The floor dropped out on all of us and this is the way it shows. This is the reason I have been attempting to lighten things up by asking my weekly questions.

Now that Levon's Band will be doing some shows around some parts of the country, there should be more of a reason to be excited rather then negative.

I just hope there will be more news to discuss this spring and summer.

Best regards to all in the GB!


Posted on Mon Mar 6 17:04:56 CET 2000 from tfsmdgatekeeper1.cda.com (198.80.171.28)

mattk

Another anniversary of Richard's passing, and another GB implosion. I don't know if it's just the pain of Richard's passing, or the manner in which he left, but has anyone else noticed that every year about this time, the GB gets wound up pretty tight?

Bless you Richard, I hope you found peace...may the rest of us find it here, amongst each other.

Matt


Posted on Mon Mar 6 14:53:05 CET 2000 from levon.hiof.no (158.36.51.54)

[guest photo]

jh

Just a little test, please ignore. Oh, btw, Steinar Albrigtsen and Tom Pacheco did a great live version of a song from their new album at the Norwegian Grammys on national TV a week and a half ago, with Jim Weider on guitar and Rick Danko's harmony vocal mixed in. They also showed film of Rick on a big screen behind the musicians, taken during last years studio sessions for the album. A great tribute to Rick and The Band. Too bad I had to pass on Jim's invitation to the press gig and the after-concert party ...


Posted on Mon Mar 6 05:58:01 CET 2000 from proxy-563.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.153)

Scott

Just received Levon's drum video. Quite entertaining and I picked up a few pionters and finally saw up close how he plays those syncopated rthymns. The highlight of the tape are the songs The Band play live, {specifically made for this video} which include, Short Fat Fanie, Hang Up Your Rock n Roll Shoes, Life Is a Carnival, Up On Cripple Creek, Hand Jive and Blues Stay away From Me. The line up was Levon, Rick, Garth, Jim, Randy and Aaron (on a couple). They were tight, but loose and sounded great.....Also really getting into "Live At O'Tooles". The song "My Love" is amazing. The blend of Ricks and Richards voices during the chorus is full of emotion. Brings me to the edge. Can't stop listening to the tune......


Posted on Mon Mar 6 04:34:54 CET 2000 from spider-to073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.78)

quiet.....'n shush....this is Dennis

From: Quitely typing in West Saugerties, New York

Quiet...please...if Wanda hears this, she'll be ticked: Butch's invite, Lee 'n Garth 'n L'il Sammy Davis 'n Pat O'Shea 'n the whole scene...beats our wedding invitations! And this Wednesday, right here in Woodstock. Hope YOU can make it...if ya need directions or anything, please don't hesitate. Betch'a this'll be a goodie....


Posted on Mon Mar 6 02:58:47 CET 2000 from icache-3.doit.wisc.edu (144.92.44.76)

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

Home page

CODY-

That was a very moving post that I haven't seen here in quite some time now, seems like I've been there too:^)

It made me feel as if I were in his shoes when you said that...and I truly know how you felt too...


Posted on Sun Mar 5 21:03:26 CET 2000 from eay20.emma.cam.ac.uk (131.111.133.134)

emm

i like to say thank you when a website turns up the exact thing i'm looking for on a search of Yahoo! i was looking for lyrics to 'The Weight', having heard a cover by British band, Travis, on the 'Later With Jools Holland' programme in the UK. I don't know if you're interested to know that Travis will be releasing this performance as a b-side to their next single in June, I think. anyway, it's a beautiful song, and i was very interested to read Peter Viney's article on the meaning of the lyrics. Thanks again for the lyrics, and i'm encouraged to listen to more of The Band's music (since I wasn't born when they were in their heyday!)


Posted on Sun Mar 5 19:37:42 CET 2000 from proxy-383.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.83)

CODY

From: Fla

I haven't been here in a while,i don't know why.But this about perspctive.I was there to see Richard less than 24 hours before he left this earthly plane.The Band was playing a show in St.Pete Fla.They sounded incredible but what I remember most of that night is Richard.He sang so beautifully,an angel in pain.He sounded so ...mournful on "Georgia"..."You Don't Know Me"...but after the show..The Band hung out at the bar,signing autographs for all.Take as many pictures as you want.But Richard,poor Richard..well after the show,he walked right next to me,a few feet away.I was like..."Richard you sounded incredible" Well Richard didn't even give me the time of day. He went directly to the bus.I was like ....asshole...bigshot Rocker!!....Well...less then 24 hours later,Richard was gone.Now here is the perspective.....I though hot shot rocker that wouldn't give me the time of day..while all the other guys were doing so much for the fans.After I read the paper the next day..I felt like crap for what I said to him.I learned so much from that....like what you think and what you think you see...is not always what it seems.Richard I cherish your memory...your spirt!!...You taught me so much Richard on that warm March night in Florida!......and Rick those pictures you let me and my lady take of all of us together..and then later when you signed them for us...they have become family heirlooms,that i will pass on to my son! God bless you Richard and Rick...you were great teachers!......." I can't tell you when....I'll becoming back this way again.I got no why of knowing..how far I'll be going...or for how long i might be staying".........I will remember in all...ways


Posted on Sun Mar 5 19:36:55 CET 2000 from webcache13x.cache.pol.co.uk (195.92.64.185)

Caleb

From: The good ol' UK.

I have to say that this is a great page, one that really does justice to its subject matter. I really don't know if I'm in the minority here, but I was born a year after the legendary Last Waltz concert, and so am a mere babe compared to those who had the privilege to see The Band in their original line up - I welcome any correspondence with fellow devotees but am particularly keen to get to know anyone who might be of the same age as me and feels utterly disillusionned by todays music. Also, if anyone could help me out with the following problem, that'd be great...despite endless hours scouring the net, I can't locate any guitar tablature related to The Band, whilst the lyrics and chords within these pages are of great help (and I've got the chords down pat) I really would love to be able to play the solo's, riffs, etc etc, however I don't read music, so if anyone has any actual tablature be it original or compiled for personal use, or any idea where I could unearth some, I would be, as they say, eternally grateful. Just trying to keep things alive for the future generations just as my father brought The Band alive to me. Cheers, and peace, people. Caleb.


Posted on Sun Mar 5 18:21:22 CET 2000 from spider-tn073.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.78)

Pacific46

From: SF

One quick comment: Elliott, did you really imply that because Andersen's "good looking" (in your opinion) any bitter feelings from a female must be because she's a scorned woman? Surely you and I have lived long enough to get beyond that mentality.


Posted on Sun Mar 5 18:14:32 CET 2000 from pm451-24.dialip.mich.net (198.110.20.82)

twilight

let's remember something. this is a guestbook. it's not a perfectbook, or a positivebook, or a negativebook. danielle had every right to say what she said. other people had a right to respond in any way they chose. If you have something to say - say it. We can't control the world outside of our own actions. when we take those actions, we must prepare ourselves for what follows. I'll say my bit - i've laughed and cried my way through these pages many times. I check in here daily and I love to hear from the people who contribute. IMHO - Danielle can take care of herself - that's my guess. Sticks & stones!


Posted on Sun Mar 5 17:51:00 CET 2000 from spider-wi012.proxy.aol.com (205.188.197.22)

acadianruby

From: mass.

to chris thomas Take a load of Fanny listen again yes lets let danielle be


Posted on Sun Mar 5 13:24:33 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

LIL: you're right, as usual... once more I'm telling myself: think before you post Ragtime...


Posted on Sun Mar 5 09:31:04 CET 2000 from ts1-37.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.37)

Doug"Cupid"Smith

From: Vancouver

Having just lost a family member my self i may understand Danielle's pain better than most.That said i don't think this GB was the most appropriate place for her post.Mr.Anderson's GB would be a better choice as the post seems to be directed at him and nobody else.There has been enough negative energy in here.My heart goes out to all of Rick's loved ones,Danielle i mean no disrespect and do not wish to downplay anything you may be feeling.May you find Peace.Doug


Posted on Sun Mar 5 07:20:26 CET 2000 from icache-3.doit.wisc.edu (144.92.44.76)

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

From: Madison, Wisconsin
Home page

Music gets into your soul,,,you feel it,,,same as you would from the inner family circle,,,let her be...


Posted on Sun Mar 5 07:15:26 CET 2000 from ip-152.dial.wans.com (64.7.64.152)

Molly

Kerrilyn - You're right. It made me think again, and I didn't know Danielle was Rick's niece. So I appoligize for my previous post. I feel terrible.


Posted on Sun Mar 5 06:04:22 CET 2000 from proxy1-external.lndn1.on.home.com (24.112.158.228)

Kerrilyn

Lil is right. Danielle was Rick's niece and for whatever personal reasons she has to feel the way she does, she has a right to speak her mind. Even if you don't agree with her. We (the fans) need to remember that we felt like we lost a member of our family with Rick's passing. That's nothing compared to the fact that Danielle and her family really did lose a member of theirs.


Posted on Sun Mar 5 03:18:13 CET 2000 from 1cust250.tnt2.phl1.da.uu.net (63.20.185.250)

Peter J. King

From: Philadelphia

I've always wondered where everyone, who loved the Band as much as I do, where. Peace, Peter


Posted on Sun Mar 5 03:11:40 CET 2000 from jncyb103-02.splitrock.net (209.252.17.50)

Chris Thomas

From: USA
Home page

I like the band music. I like that up on Cripple creek Song. And I also like that tune called take a load off granny. Sincerely, Chris


Posted on Sun Mar 5 02:50:43 CET 2000 from alb3-as5200-06-102.termserv.net (208.20.67.102)

Diamond Lil

Although I was personally touched by Eric Andersen's goodbye letter to Rick and truly believe it came from his heart, I'd like to ask those of you who feel the need to reply to Danielle's rather strongly worded post, to please just let it go. Rick was _family_.. and she and the rest of her family have been through enough. Thank You.


Posted on Sun Mar 5 02:42:59 CET 2000 from dialin-148-177.montreal.primus.ca (216.95.148.177)

Katser

Goodness gracious Danielle, you sure have a lot of vitriol to spew! My question is, If Eric was really the pathetic loser you make him out to be, why on earth would Rick have wasted his time making two albums with him, touring with him, hanging out with him? Do you think Rick would condone writing messages of this sort about someone who, to all intents and purposes, seems to have been a friend of his? Hmmm?

You seem to have some personal issues to work out with Mr. Andersen. Next time, think before you click "send" and deal directly with him instead of spraying your venom around like this.


Posted on Sun Mar 5 02:22:21 CET 2000 from ip-124.dial.wans.com (64.7.64.124)

Molly

Danielle - if you're going to at least talk smut about Rick Danko and Eric Andersen, do it somewhere else, because it's unneeded here. Thanks.


Posted on Sun Mar 5 01:21:30 CET 2000 from cobalt.nextlink.net (206.129.70.172)

Mike

From: Oregon

Danielle – Personal favor…get a life.


Posted on Sat Mar 4 20:32:24 CET 2000 from spider-wo043.proxy.aol.com (205.188.200.38)

butch

From: ulster county n. y.

Hello Folks,,, Just a couple of words about Levon & The Barn Burners this week,,,, Chris O'Leary our vocalist/harp guy, is henpecked & HAS to take his lady & her kid to Disneyville,, SOOOOOO, The GREAT LITTLE SAMMY DAVIS will be joining the Barn Burners for a special appearance,,, Lil Sammy is a Blues Legend ,,,a great harp player & funkaaaayyyyy singer,, the real deal !!!! so Grab your coat & find your hat,,, the show will be starting as usual, @930-10ish,,, STILL $ 10 only,,, Levon, Garth, Miss Amy, Patty O'Shea, Frankie Ingrao, & LITTLE SAMMY all that for ten bucks,,, so come on out to the wednesday night dance,,, see ya there,, butch oh, btw,,, philly YES,, chicago,, NO,, ( as of now,, )


Posted on Sat Mar 4 20:05:32 CET 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: texas

"Now who are we to judge one another?, that could cause alot of hurt" R.D., "Small Town Talk".

Grateful for the memory of Richard and Rick. Although I never met them they had a profound effect on my life and continue to do so. The message I get from them is to lighten up a little and enjoy life while its here. Life is, after all, the only game in town.


Posted on Sat Mar 4 19:53:13 CET 2000 from ts3-4t-38.tor.idirect.com (209.161.225.166)

Elliott

From: Toronto

What a stinging indictment from Danielle! What bitterness! There are times when I have looked upon Eric Andersen's career with a bit of skepticism, but this assassination kind of betrays a personal animosity rather than an objective critique. The fact that people in an audience do not know Eric Andersen says more about their ignorance of a certain stream of music than it says about his career or character. Eric was not a "pop" singer, or a "rock star" nor can I see any evidence that he tried to be those things. He is a singer/ songwriter of personal visions and love chronicles and his albums reflect his search for his own redemption. This is not a road chosen for mass popularity. And as far as the bargain bin to which you say his albums are disposed, frankly here in Toronto I remember always wanting a copy of his "Songs From Tin Can Alley" and always finding the price too high.

Eric Andersen posted his open letter to Rick on his own web site. He wasn't trying to promote himself. This posting was obviously intended for the people who would go to the Eric Andersen site, mainly, his fans. I found the letter to be quite moving, not overly sentimental, but sincere and flattering to Rick Danko. It was his personal remembrance and one that he was entitled to post on his own site. The fact that it was posted here as well had nothing to do with Andersen. Obviously other people found that his letter struck a chord within.

My own small problem with Eric Andersen's career is that I felt that he would shift his style after Bob Dylan throughout the years. When Dylan went electric you saw Andersen going back in the studio and recording " 'Bout Changes and Things (Take Two) ". When Dylan went symbolistic, Andersen wrote "Avalanche". When Dylan went country, Andersen recorded "A Country Dream" etc.

Nevermind. Eric wrote "Thirsty Boots" around 1965 and I saw him sing it in a club in Toronto when I was sixteen and I've been playing and singing it ever since. "Blue River" the album, is a masterpiece. He's been making music since the early sixties and he's made that his life. To my point of view, I'm not sure who would be carrying who regarding Danko and Andersen. I loved Rick Danko's singing but let's be honest, in the nineties he was not a huge musical force. His name did not carry Andersen and Jonas Fjeld, but rather, they came together as equals.

Finally Danielle, and you know I think you sort of asked for this, Andersen was one good-looking folksinger and your nasty letter makes me wonder if you wanted something from him that perhaps he didn't want to give you.

p.s. I tried to break this into paragraphs, honest.


Posted on Sat Mar 4 19:51:11 CET 2000 from dial229.vbe.com (206.242.16.229)

Mary Cotter

From: Wisconsin

Hi, I got into the Band not so long ago (loved Levon's book!) and I just wanted to say I love the site and I'd like to talk to some other fans of the Band. I'm into a lot of bands from the 60's/70's period, and I hope that I'll be hearing from some of you...


Posted on Sat Mar 4 19:15:39 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime p.s.

My traditional p.s. (think before you post Ragtime) I was blind, and now I see, that Ben Turkel said it all...


Posted on Sat Mar 4 19:05:49 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

Danielle... whoever you are.. another "personal friend of Rick's"... good for you... so was Eric Andersen... but why this bitterness towards him? And why exposing it in here? You tell us you don't like his music... So?


Posted on Sat Mar 4 18:58:35 CET 2000 from pm3-195.efn.org (206.163.180.195)

deb

From: oregon

More on the hilarious scene where Levon talks about the "shit hole and a half" he and Ronnie Hawkins used to play in: The scene is exactly 14 minutes in from the beginning of "The Band: The Authorized Video Biography" made in 1995. I purchased one last month on eBay for about $9 plus postage and watched it today, when I stumbled across the scene. It is in reference to Ronnie Hawkins waiting for Levon, "...an underage drummer with stars in his eyes..." then Levon makes the comment about one of the dives they used to play in as they drive by. Note the comment by Hawkins, also: "You had to show your razor and puke twice to get in."


Posted on Sat Mar 4 18:49:20 CET 2000 from spider-wl073.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.53)

Ben Turkel

From: New Jersey

I feel the need to comment about Danielle's tirade against Eric Andersen. I think that she is way off in her criticsm of Andersen's carreer. He's been releasing albums since 1964, many of his songs have been covered by his peers and he's generally received excellent reviews from critics. I recommend 'Blue river' and 'Ghosts upon the road' to anyone who's interested in Andersen's work outside of D/F/A, these are both excellent albums that stand up to repeated listenings. I don't know Eric Andersen personally and I didn't know Rick Danko. Maybe Andersen is a jerk, I really don't care. I enjoy his music and am going to see him in a couple of weeks. And I don't think it's fair to smear his 35 year career due to some personal grudge.


Posted on Sat Mar 4 15:38:42 CET 2000 from ppp88.nsoft.it (212.177.100.88)

Nick

From: Italy
Home page

NICE NICE !!!!!


Posted on Sat Mar 4 12:18:26 CET 2000 from as32.infoflex.com.au (203.23.250.71)

Anthony Frazer

From: Sydney

"Must be some way to repay you, out of all the good you gave..."

Richard Manuel, you have given many people a sense of good, a feeling of joy through your voice and through your music.

You will never be forgotten.


Posted on Sat Mar 4 11:47:14 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

Victor Young: if you look back you'll see "We Can Talk" mentioned twice in our BOB suggestions, one of them being from me...


Posted on Sat Mar 4 08:28:01 CET 2000 from dialup85-83.telenet.net (208.20.85.83)

Danielle

From: Upstate New York

I haven't been here in a while, but I happened to pop in today just to see what people are talking about and I saw some posts about Eric Anderson's bye bye letter to Rick. This statement is between me and Eric, I guess, obviously I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but anyway, I have known Rick for the past 27 years of my life and I have known Eric for quite some time too......that "letter" was more boring than Dustin Hoffman's acceptance speech at the Oscars and almost put me to sleep. It was also inaccurate AND he was not at the funeral OR memorial service and to be honest, I think his "bye bye letter" is a self promoting crock of shit. My memory of Eric Anderson with Rick was when they played in New York city with Greg Allman and I heard people saying "Who the fuck is Eric Anderson?" and when he played his tunes, it was when we all went to grab another brew or possibly take a shit......sorry folks, but I just had to let this one loose, and Eric, you know where to find me........and not to add insult to injury, but I know where to look for your albums, errrr, in the oh so bold orange colored 99 cent rack.......oh and these are not my words but they ARE my words, "Dear Loser, Now that your meal ticket is gone, whose star will you hitch your decrepit, washed-up wagon to? Who else is going to put up with your long-winded bullshit, your self-serving antics, and your trite, mediocre songs? It is a cold winter night here in New York, and I can see you, plain as day, scrounging for cigarettes in your stark, smoke-filled Chelsea Hotel room, trying pathetically to emulate the Beat poets who would never give you the time of day. And breaking everyone's balls at soundcheck because the mikes were too loud and the monitors too low. Yes, I can see everyone's eyes rolling behind your back, as you scurry bravely to sing to the four paid people in the audience." Anyway, credit where credit is due, we know who we are.....thanks for listening and let our memories serve us well! Rick, I love you and we're keepin' the good stuff alive!


Posted on Sat Mar 4 07:38:28 CET 2000 from 1cust166.tnt14.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.142.166)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Gee, that's a tough one! The 4 best cuts on the remainder of the original Band's studio albums of mostly original material beyond Stage Fright? I'm gonna take a wild stab at it and say it's "Ophelia," "Don't Do It," "It Makes No Difference," and possibly "Acadian Driftwood" though the story kinda starts to get tedious and seems to go on forever after a couple of plays.


Posted on Sat Mar 4 05:16:07 CET 2000 from ip-138.dial.wans.com (64.7.64.138)

Molly Z.

Richard Manuel - You were the voice that carried The Band on, like a beautiful bird chirping in the morning
You were the man with a soulful heart that made me laugh and cry
I will try not to shed a tear, as I still listen to your great singing drift with the songs I love
You could hit the notes like no other, and that's what was special about you.
Now you are released to a wonderful place. Say hi to Rick for me up there!! R.I.P Richard!! You will always be missed!!

Thanks for listening.


Posted on Sat Mar 4 04:11:33 CET 2000 from alb4-as5200-38-230.termserv.net (208.20.67.197)

Diamond Lil

Remembering Richard...

It's that old sweet song, that keeps you on my mind....


Posted on Sat Mar 4 02:51:28 CET 2000 from 209-130-142-168.nas3.mon.gblx.net (209.130.142.168)

Lars

From: Pine Bush, NY (UFO capital of the universe)

It's a slow night....but if I were to put my favorite 12 Band songs together and send them to someone far away, it would go like this:

1. The Weight (from Big Pink)

2. Cripple Creek (The Band Album)

3. Ain't No More Cane (Basement Tapes)

4. Acadian Driftwood (NL-SC)

5. It Makes No Difference (TLW)

6. The Shape I'm In (TLW)

7. Rockin' Chair (The Band)

8. Atlantic City (Jericho)

9. Get Up Jake (Rock of Ages)

10.Ophelia (NL-SC)

11.Mystery Train (TLW)

12.I Shall Be Released (Big Pink)

I'd also send my best bottle of wine, Levon's "This Wheel's on Fire" and a math problem (divide 7 into 22) and have them get in touch when they're done.


Posted on Sat Mar 4 02:44:12 CET 2000 from pooh.wmin.ac.uk (161.74.55.19)

Victor Young

From: houston, texas

Reading all of these choices for the "BOB" compilation I am amazed that nobody ever mentions "We Can Talk About It Now." To me, this song epitomizes everything that The Band stands for. All three voices blending into "one voice for all" and the great lyrics that bring you along for the ride. It is probably my favorite song and never really gets the credit it deserves. Also, Bessie Smith is great too. Love to hear Robbie Sing.


Posted on Fri Mar 3 23:54:50 CET 2000 from spider-tk042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.206.192)

Bumbles

From: Coconut Grove

The Lovin’ Spoonful come up in this GB from time to time and in light of the recent discussions of remastered 60s classics it’s worth mentioning the Spoonful’s brand-new Greatest Hits on the revitalized Buddha label. The notes don’t mention sampling rates but do emphasize that for the first time these tracks have been remastered from the first-generation master tapes. This seemed to slip out without any of the publicity afforded the (exemplary) Byrds’ titles, but the sonic upgrade is even more striking. You’ve never heard these tracks sound this good, not even on the excellent Rhino anthology. Not just a hits package, this features 26 tracks (all the hits & more), previously unseen photos, and informative notes.

On the other end of the sonic spectrum, Vigatone’s just-released First Time Around will probably disappoint anyone looking for the full-strength shot of the Hawks found on Guitars Kissing & the Contemporary Fix and Bootleg Series: Vol 4. All tricked out like the official release of Royal Albert Hall---an acoustic disc, an electric disc, slipcase, detailed booklet---this is Tour 66’s April 13 stop in Sydney, Australia, taken from “a mono line feed.” The focus of the electric set is on Dylan (as it should be), but almost to the exclusion of everyone else on stage. While the vocals are front & center, the piano is virtually inaudible, guitars come & (mostly) go, and even Danko’s trademark behiiiind on “One Too Many Mornings” just sounds like a distant bellow. On this recording, Mickey Jones & Garth Hudson come across best---Jones pounds too hard not to hear & Garth’s Phantom of the Opera flourishes & fills become more prominent as the set progresses. This is also a chance to hear a rare live “Positively 4th St.,” done here as the set closer. Needless to say the whole package is a treasure untold for those whose principal interest is Dylan: he’s in excellent form on both discs, and even though the electric set doesn’t offer much in the way of sonic niceties, the furious noise behind him is never anything but exciting. And what was for years a trickle of live Dylan/Hawks material threatens to turn into a flood. The First Time Around booklet mentions Jewels & Binoculars, Vigatone’s “upcoming comprehensive 1966 Dylan box.” Who ever thought that an event with such an aura of mystery would---30some years after the fact---turn out to be as exhaustively chronicled as any recent Metallica or U2 tour?


Posted on Fri Mar 3 19:29:40 CET 2000 from proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net (209.240.200.43)

Scott

Two songs from each album. Not easy, but fun....Music From Big Pink: Tears of Rage, Caledonia Mission.....The Band: Up On Cripple Creek, Jawbone.....Stagefright: Sleeping, The Rumour.....Cahoots:Volcano, Life Is a Carnival.....Rock Of Ages: Don't Do It, Get Up Jake.....Moondog Matinee: Saved, I'm Ready.....Northern Lights, Southern Cross: It Makes No Difference, Ophelia.....Islands: Christmas Must Be Tonight, Knockin' Lost John.....The Last Waltz:The Weight, The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down.....The Basement Tapes:Ain't No More Cane, Yazoo Street Scandal.....Before The Flood:Endless Highway.....Jericho: The Caves Of Jericho, Blind Willie McTell.....Live At Watkins Glen:Back To Memphis, Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever.....Across The Great Divide {Box}:Do The Honky Tonk, He Don't Love You.....High On The Hog: The High Price Of Love, Stand Up.....Jubilation: Book Faded Brown, Don't Wait.....And Remedy {live} from Let it Rock....


Posted on Fri Mar 3 18:30:06 CET 2000 from karma.ucd.ie (137.43.13.13)

Tommy Moffitt

From: ireland

excellent site


Posted on Fri Mar 3 16:51:40 CET 2000 from du2-2.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.2.2)

Ilkka

From: Nordic Countries

On the subject of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, just to paraphrase another Marx (Karl):
$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Posted on Fri Mar 3 16:25:00 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.223)

David Powell

From: Georgia

On the subject of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, just to paraphrase Marx (Groucho): "I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."


Posted on Fri Mar 3 15:22:27 CET 2000 from ab7.abtech-dist.com (207.235.18.7)

Just Wonderin'

From: Texas

Crabgrass: I agree that compilations are like taking a chainsaw to a great works of art. Heaven knows record companys are notorious for this (where's Long Black Veil on the box set?

As for awards shows though I think a lot of us are in the upper range of baby boomers on this board and seldom get a chance to see our musical heros of our generation. As boring as the awards shows can be sometimes there are gems and that would be seeing some of the old musical warriors appear on the shows. It also ties the old with the new (Carlos Santana and Rob Thomas recently). I keep hoping to see The Band show up somewhere, so as a result I do enjoy seeing RR on the awards shows as a connection to the Band. Besides Eric Clapton, Bruce Springsteen and a lot of other "oldies but goodies" show up on those shows.


Posted on Fri Mar 3 15:15:25 CET 2000 from eclipse.hanover.k12.va.us (207.239.122.5)

michael ross

From: virginia

yall rock


Posted on Fri Mar 3 14:29:53 CET 2000 from as36.infoflex.com.au (203.23.250.75)

Anthony Frazer

From: Sydney, Australia

Hey folks,

Just wondering if any photographs are in existence of the Band during the recording sessions for Stagefright? I looked through the pictures section but couldn't find any.

Thanks


Posted on Fri Mar 3 12:54:01 CET 2000 from spider-wg042.proxy.aol.com (205.188.196.37)

Sean

From: Melbourne

Well here my selections for the best two songs from each album, well the ones that I have anyway. Big Pink: We Can Talk, The Weight The Band: Jawbone, King Harvest Stage Fright: Just Another Whistle Stop, Shape I'm In Cahoots: Last of the Blacksmiths, Shootout in Chinatown NLSC:Acadian Driftwood, It Makes No Difference LW: Who Do You Love, Up on Cripple Creek Watkins Glen: Back in Memphis, Jam Thanks for letting me have my two bobs worth.


Posted on Fri Mar 3 10:41:50 CET 2000 from 216-119-162-51.ipset44.wt.net (216.119.162.51)

Michael Shiloh

Did anyone see that Sunday night network TV-movie a few weeks back where the producers used "Whispering Pines" as a soundtrack for a love scene? Oddly enough, I had given my little daughter the remote for a moment, and she was changing channels. She stopped on the movie -- and the song -- and stayed for the 40 seconds they used of the song, and I sat there enraptured. I love the song so much, it took me that long to realize two adults were taking off their clothes and starting to make love, as Kelly watched. I snapped out of the shock (when was the last time you heard a Band song in any current mainstream media?) and, regretfully, didn't catch up with the movie again. My daughter is only three, but she knows good music, at least when Robbie, Rick, Richard, Levon and Garth put it down!


Posted on Fri Mar 3 08:09:17 CET 2000 from 1cust171.tnt11.nyc3.da.uu.net (63.23.134.171)

Crabgrass

From: The Front Lawn

Taking apart any of the Band's first three albums is sort of like cutting up the Mona Lisa with a chainsaw. I have no use for "Greatest Hits" or "Best of" albums. Big Pink, The Band, and Stage Fright are complete works of art the songs being put in perfect order in relation to each other and to the album as a whole and are meant to be enjoyed in this manner. These albums were recorded and released when people went out and bought records and sat down and listened to them in their entirety, a time when rock was new to FM radio and DJs played entire sides of LPs and a time when "Hit Singles" had become an antiquated term, a throwback to the late 50's and early 60's, AM radio, and loud mouth DJs.

John Lennon once said that Elvis died the day he was inducted into the army. I say Rock 'n' Roll died the day they created the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame. It became part of "The Establishment" but maybe that's just the way everything goes. It seems it's not just enough to make your music and get it heard - everybody wants prizes! And you can buy shares in Crosby Stills and Nash ("Almost Cut My Hair") Inc. Though, I'm glad to see that RR is becoming a professional award presenter - at least there's something he's apparently good at these days.


Posted on Fri Mar 3 05:48:58 CET 2000 from spider-tf052.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.197)

Lori

From: Chicago

Butch...sure do hope the road trip will include a stop in Chicago! Or do I have to start planning for another trip east?


Posted on Fri Mar 3 05:28:40 CET 2000 from spider-tl024.proxy.aol.com (152.163.207.184)

Long Distance Operator

From: Massachusetts

If anybody from the guestbook is at this Sunday's Eric Andersen performance at Club Passim in Cambridge, please feel free to introduce yourself. I'll be the one wearing a Rick Danko Band "Sip The Wine" T-shirt.


Posted on Fri Mar 3 02:55:37 CET 2000 from lax-ts6-h2-15-101.ispmodems.net (209.162.15.101)

Martin

From: central coast california

I just read the some of the articles paying tribute to Rick. I have long been a band fan but with work and school did not realize until now that he passed away. What a loss to the music world! My first experience was the Last Waltz in a theatre as a junior in high school. I remember the ads for the concert in the Oakland Newspaper. I saw the band once in 1990 and Rick in '92. Those of you able to see the current New York shows are lucky. I hope Levon will get to California again.


Posted on Fri Mar 3 02:15:42 CET 2000 from alb3-as5200-34-130.termserv.net (208.20.67.130)

Diamond Lil

Hmm..picking just 2 tunes from each album for a 'best of' tape sounds interesting...and frustrating. But ok..I'll give it a try.

Brown Album: Whispering Pines, Unfaithful Servant
Big Pink: In a Station, This Wheel's on Fire
Stagefright: All La Glory, Daniel and the Sacred Harp
Cahoots: Life is a Carnival, Masterpiece
Moondog: Share your Love, A Change is Gonna Come
NLSC: Acadian Driftwood, It Makes No Difference
Islands: Christmas Must Be Tonight, Georgia on my Mind
Rock of Ages: Don't Do it, Stage Fright
Watkins Glen: Back to Memphis, Loving you is sweeter than ever
Jericho: Atlantic City, Country Boy
HOTH: She Knows (that's all from that one)
Jubilation: Book Faded Brown, Don't Wait
And no, I didn't forget The Last Waltz....

I do have to say that I'm glad I don't have to settle for the limited selection that a 'best of' tape would give me. I'm much happier staying buried under piles of cd's and vinyl...

And on a seperate note, am remembering Rick's son Eli today...11 years gone. He made me laugh, and I miss him.


Posted on Fri Mar 3 01:46:43 CET 2000 from 94.mercerville-33-34rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.153.94)

carmen

From: PA

Ragtime, that's the point. Here is my tape:

Basement Tapes @ Bessie Smith & Ain't No More Cane

Big Pink @ The Weight & Tears of Rage

Brown @ Wispering Pines & Rocking Chair

Stage Freight @ Stage Freight & All La Glory

Cahoots @ Carnival & Paint My masterpiece

Moondog @ Mystery Train & Ain't Got No Home

NLSC @ Arcadian Driftwood & It Makes No Difference

Islands @ Christmas & Knocken Lost John

Last Waltz @ Dixie & Out Of The Blue

ROA @ King Harvest & Don't Do It

Before The Flood @ Endless Highway & When You Awake

Jubilation @ Book Faded Brown & Don't Wait.

Jerico @ Remedy & Blind Willie McTell

I ran out of tape space so I had to leave off HOTH. Sorry! I wonder if a trained eye can see patterns in something like this. i.e is one singer favored over another etc.


Posted on Fri Mar 3 01:07:24 CET 2000 from on-tor-blr-a58-03-1045.idirect.com (216.154.15.29)

Rick Kenworthy

From: Toronto

Just had the good fortune of having my teenaged son remember to tape the Dylan tribute that played last night on MuchMusic. (I can't begin to express the joy I get from seeing his appreciation for The Band grow). He did ask why, at the end of the show, that The Band weren't onstage for the "Knocking on Heaven's Door" finale . . . I could only reason that, with all the "Stars" crowding out, The Band had graciously declined to elbow their way forward . . . Anyone have another perspective ? Rick


Posted on Fri Mar 3 01:03:41 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime (p.s.)

I always seem to need a postscipt... think before you post Ragtime... :-)

carmen: what's actually wrong about your suggestion, is the assumption that all albums are equal. It's very hard to select two tracks from the brown Album, since they all are little masterpieces. On Cahoots, well, the tracks I picked out are the only two I ever care to listen to (well, and The Moon Struck One of course, because you must know what you hate to find out what you love :-)


Posted on Fri Mar 3 00:50:17 CET 2000 from schltns.demon.nl (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

carmen's query:

My picks for "Best of..." (2 per official release):

Big Pink: We Can Talk, The Weight

The Band: Rockin' Chair, King Harvest

Stage Fright: Daniel, The Rumor

Cahoots: Carnival, 4% Pantomime

Rock Of Ages: Don't Do It, Get Up Jake

Moondog Matinee: Mystery Train, Holy Cow

NLSC: Ring Your Bell, Acadian Driftwood

The Last Waltz live: Stage Fright, Shape I'm In

The Last Waltz studio: The Well, Out Of The Blue

Islands: Pepote Rouge, Livin' In A Dream

Basement Tapes: Bessie Smith, Ain't No More Cane

Jericho: Remedy, Blind Willie McTell

HOTH: sorry... oh yes...: She Knows

Jubilation: Book Faded Brown, Don't Wait

Watkins Glenn: Endless Highway, Don't Ya Tell Henry

Hardly surprising, you say? Well, you're right...

Crabgrass, I'm waitin' for ya dude...


Posted on Thu Mar 2 22:48:31 CET 2000 from 76.mercerville-31-32rs.nj.dial-access.att.net (12.78.152.76)

carmen

From: pa

Butch, I hope the road you plan on hitting leads you to the Philadelphia area.

VH1 does have RR listed as a presenter for this Wednesday's RR Hall Of Fame Ceremony. Wouldn't it be nice to see Rick being mentioned by either RR or Clapton.

Question for those interested: If you had to make your own "Best Of" tape with only 2 songs from each official release, what would your tape look like.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 22:33:43 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.223)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Garth & Bernie Worrell! Wish I could have seen that. By the way, Mr. Worrell accompanied the Talking Heads in their classic concert film "Stop Making Sense." Speaking of films, the documentary "Elvis '56", narrated by Levon is now available on DVD.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 21:59:29 CET 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: texas

thank you Eric Andersen and Jan for the homage to Rick.

absolutely beautiful.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 21:20:48 CET 2000 from alb2-as5200-46-94.termserv.net (208.20.67.94)

Diamond Lil

For those of you who haven't read the very touching goodbye letter to Rick Danko by Eric Andersen, Jan has added it to this site. If you go to today's 'what's new' section..you'll find it there. Thanks Jan...and welcome back :-)


Posted on Thu Mar 2 20:54:47 CET 2000 from ric-wht-pxy-int01.wheatfirst.com (204.238.130.67)

Bones

From: CT

Garth plays some woderful sax and organ on Hits and Assorted Secrets by Northern Pikes. They called Garth at 4am to play a sax solo on one song and he kindly obliged. Sweet man.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 18:16:25 CET 2000 from turner-303.megalink.net (209.222.98.221)

Nicker

In responce to a posting by Laura Holt.......the seen about Levon came from the "Authorized Video Biography" of the Band produced '95.I just reciently picked one up on E-Bay.An excellent video, not too much input fron R.R. unfortunatly.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 17:22:31 CET 2000 from spider-tr042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.201.192)

butch

From: ulster county ny

hey,,, awake now,,,, thanks to EVERYONE who came out last night,,, we had folks from Vermont, Baltimore, Connecticut, & all points N, S, E, & W,,,, & YES it WAS Bernie Worrell from P-FUNK !!! the whole band was recording up in APPLEHEAD STUDIOS & heard Garth & Levon were playing,,, Bernie sat in on that great blues BIG LEGGED WOMAN IN A SHORT, SHORT, MINI-SKIRT,,,, man it was something ,, watching Garth show Bernie the effects on his keyboards,,, & Bernie's eyes lighting up at the MASTER's teachings,, & LEVON, grinnin like a possum with a sweet potato,,, havin the time of his life,,, Afterwards,, they asked if AMY, ( Levon's daughter ) is available to sing with them,,, how's that for RIGHT PLACE,,, RIGHT TIME,,, ? ok, next week, LED ZEPPELLIN, ,,, see ya,,, & thanks to all who support Levon, Garth & The Barn Burners,,, WE WILL BE HITTING THE ROAD, in late april / may,, stand by for dates & places,,, butch


Posted on Thu Mar 2 16:51:03 CET 2000 from dialin-219.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net (216.179.14.53)

Gene

From: Dutchess County

Dexy -

That website is http://www.ericandersen.com/page3.htm


Posted on Thu Mar 2 16:41:39 CET 2000 from 1cust205.tnt1.topeka.ks.da.uu.net (63.13.63.205)

Dexy

Could someone resubmit the link to the Eric Anderson letter? I somehow missed it and would like to read the piece. Thanks.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 08:20:02 CET 2000 from 1cust230.tnt1.iowa-city.ia.da.uu.net (63.25.166.230)

Paul Nyman

From: Iowa

Hi everyone here. I was also very moved by Rick's buddy Eric Andersen letter posted recently. I not knowing either of them can almost feel the sadness so present in his words there. Like losing your family members Anyway While reading it I was struck by Eric mentioning a "LIVE" album that was recorded in Japan in 1997. Why hasn't this been issued yet? Both the studio albums released were very well received! Would Ryko still put this out or is that contract over?? Also would any Scandanvian/Japanese fans know if anything was televised of the tours they did in the 90's? Please e-mail if you could directly. Anybody have any audio from club dates in Europe??


Posted on Thu Mar 2 07:58:42 CET 2000 from spider-we014.proxy.aol.com (205.188.195.24)

Dennis

From: Gosh, what a wonderful evening to be from Saugerties, NY

It's 1:43 am, just back from this evening's Barn Burners show. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, tonight I got to witness some of the past, but also the future, and our future was wonderful: this show was hot! Wish YOU were here, it was an electric evening.... This was the 8th show of this series I've been fortunate to attend, and it was by far both the most interesting and the most exciting. The ensemble worked like a fine-tuned engine, coolin' it during cruising moments, steppin' on the gas when you needed more. Don't know what brought 'em out, but the audience was double any of those previous, and everyone, performers and viewers alike, worked together. At 50 years young, this was one of the niftiest shows I've ever seen, and from personal past experience, this was my highlight: midway during the second set, Garth (who, IMHO, was the star of tonight's show) stands up and backs off. The singer announces a special guest and out'a the audience of perhaps 100 walks Bernie Warrel (sp?) who sits at Garth's seat and just knock's 'em dead while Mr. Hudson takes a break! I've got to get to work soon. Next show's next Wednesday. Ten bucks. Hope YOU can make it...


Posted on Thu Mar 2 06:43:01 CET 2000 from pool-209-138-11-247.ipls.grid.net (209.138.11.247)

Bobby Jones

From: Columbus

I was listening to the bootleg "SNACK 1975" cd tonite. Last song (Will The circle be unbroken), Last Verse, sung by Rick. "I said Mr., Mr. driver, won't you please drive this coach so slow. Cause these people that your taking, you know that I'd hate to see them go." Sums up my feelings. The Band song that changed my perspective the most is "The Weight", some how music changed after I listened to this. Marty S. - Thanks for posting the great picture of Rick.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 06:31:27 CET 2000 from ip-136.dial.wans.com (64.7.64.136)

Molly

From: Mill valley, California
Home page

Last night I read Eric's article on Rick Danko. In fact, it touched me soo deeply that i read it twice before going to sleep. It almost reminded me of my collage i made full of pictures of Rick. That was a truely deep, touching farewell, that will always bring back great memories of Rick and the Band, as well as their music.

This article brought me to tears when I finished reading it. I still truely miss Rick and I'm sure you all do too. But Levon, Garth, and Robbie are still around, so let's enjoy what's left, and make good use of it.

thanks for listening. peace!!

P.S.: Also check out my website. i'm not finished, but it's getting there.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 05:54:00 CET 2000 from spider-tm074.proxy.aol.com (152.163.197.79)

Dave Z

From: Chaska, MN

Don't you just hate it when you press Preview and realize you didn't enter your name...

Doug Smith: Songs that move me... there's a phrase in Van's Cyprus Avenue that goes something like "Nothing can stop me from loving you baby" which really does it for me... The way he sings it is sooo cool... like a defiant battle cry... before facing life's challenges and chasing what you want... Moving Band tune would be... Strawberry whine... or Stage flight...

I also find myself liking Amazon (River of Dreams)... I wonder how Rick picked that subject... I guess if Levon can sing about bitty Honda cars then...


Posted on Thu Mar 2 05:37:50 CET 2000 from trt-on54-14.netcom.ca (216.123.99.142)

John Donabie

LAURA.....The movie you saw with Levon driving around in the car might have been when he did a PBS special, driving down Highway 61. OR........ it could have been the Ronnie Hawkins special where he drove around in a car and one of the scene's was describing old Hawks haunts.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 05:07:46 CET 2000 from ip237.perthamboy.nj.pub-ip.psi.net (38.14.56.237)

Sharon

From: Across The Great Divide

Nice article on Rick in Relix magazine Vol 27-No.1 Also a few pictures- one with Eric Anderson and a picture of The Band being inducted into The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame-there is also a review of Live On Breeze Hill with a picture of Rick taking up most of the page


Posted on Thu Mar 2 04:16:58 CET 2000 from ts1-43.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.43)

Doug Smith

So i didn't answer my own question Doh! Cest la vie by Emerson Lake and Palmer tears me up.i fell in love with an exchange student in grade 10[holy crap that was 20 years ago!] it was love at first sight.Most importantly she loved me back! 10 glorious days we had and that was it.It burned bright and far to fast but boy did it burn and ELP was the sound track.There were other tunes alongthe way of course but when i here this one i can smell Slyvie's perfume,a haert breaker.Band song? It Makes No Difference the most honest vocal performance ever put down IMHO.Peace Doug


Posted on Thu Mar 2 04:14:28 CET 2000 from ts1-43.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.43)

Doug Smith

So i didn't answer my own question Doh! Cest la vie by Emerson Lake and Palmer tears me up.i fell in love with an exchange student in grade 10[holy crap that was 20 years ago!] it was love at first sight.Most importantly she loved me back! 10 glorious days we had and that was it.It burned bright and far to fast but boy did it burn and ELP was the sound track.Band song? It Makes No Difference the most honest vocal performance ever put down IMHO.Peace Doug


Posted on Thu Mar 2 03:42:27 CET 2000 from spider-wd054.proxy.aol.com (205.188.193.174)

Lori

From: Chicago

Wow--just read Eric's exquisite farewell to Rick. Brought me to tears. If you haven't read it, please don't miss it.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 03:14:02 CET 2000 from pm3-156.efn.org (206.163.180.156)

deb

From: oregon

Songs that have affected me? Hmmmmmmmmmm...tough one; no, it's not. The first one that comes to mind is the very first rock and roll song I remember hearing: Rock Around the Clock by Bill Haley and The Comets. That was a big moment. Another one is the first Beatle's song I heard: I Saw Her Standing There. I (and just about everyone else in the world) knew that it was the beginning of something important. And, finally, I have to say The Weight as played by The Band. What a powerful song it is.


Posted on Thu Mar 2 01:10:14 CET 2000 from ppp131.a2-1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.4.197)

Paul Godfrey

Songs that have a effect on your Life? Carl Perkins and "The Class of 55". Song goes: "I'd Like to hold a Reunion for the Class of 55....talk about the good times and how many have survived!" In my case it would be the Class of 65. Got to looking over old school class photos the other evening and realized than already a number had not survived. Band Song...there are so many. More recently tho..I am haunted by a song from Jericho..."Country Boy" by Richard Manuel. Certainly have empathy with growing up poor, wanting to buy nice things for a girl friend and all. Probably married somewhat later than some of my childhood friends...but it was worth the "weight" and the money does not seem to matter any more. Given the right timing, the right record promoter "Country Boy" might have turned into a major hit. Nuff wandering from this old "Country Boy" who's a long way from home!

Shine ON!


Posted on Thu Mar 2 00:02:45 CET 2000 from 208-51-135-249.nas1.mon.gblx.net (208.51.135.249)

Lars

From: The mudlands of NY

LAURA & ACADIANRUBY: I may be wrong, but I thought the scene where Levon is in a car driving by "a shithole and a half" came out of "The Band's Authorized Biography" VHS tape. I have this tape, I think anybody can order it.


Posted on Wed Mar 1 22:18:03 CET 2000 from spider-to035.proxy.aol.com (152.163.204.17)

franko

From: boston

acadianruby - you might want to go see eric andersen at club passim in cambridge this sunday night.


Posted on Wed Mar 1 22:13:22 CET 2000 from ts1-21.steveston.axion.net (207.34.146.21)

Doug Smith

From: Neptune

To laura Holt: i saw the clip of which you speak on a thing called Ego's and Icon's that was shown up here[Canada] on Much Music.I don't know if that helps but there it is. Ok Folks a new thread for ya.Name the song{Band or otherwise} That has had the most affect on you [good or bad] and why? over to you Band fans.Peace Doug


Posted on Wed Mar 1 21:47:24 CET 2000 from dip226-223.acf.dhhs.gov (158.71.226.223)

Les Thierolf

From: Serge's coffee table

There is an article from yesterday's Washington Post here.

The humorous article discusses a book called "The Mullet: Hairstyle of the Gods". The hairstyle popularized in the 80's by people like Hall & Oates and Michael Bolton can be described as short on top and long on the sides. The book is written by Mark Larson, a graphic designer from Wookstock, N.Y. and "British author Barney Hoskyns". I don't have the strength to find the book and check the index.

In a chain bookstore I ran across a book called "Rock Stars Say the Dumbest Things". There was a Band entry re: The Last Waltz. After Neil Diamond performed he went backstage and proudly announced to Bob Dylan that he would have to really do something to top what Diamond had just done out there. Dylan replied "What? Breathe?"

Les.


Posted on Wed Mar 1 21:27:02 CET 2000 from spider-ti042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.192)

acadianruby

From: Mass.

Hello people. I have been reading this guestbook for a few days now, It seems some of you may have some videos of the boys that I do not. I have a few and would love to do some trading. Does anyone have any from Ricks solo shows? I am very interested in the one laura is talking about. Lets keep it flowing


Posted on Wed Mar 1 21:16:21 CET 2000 from spider-ti042.proxy.aol.com (152.163.194.192)

acadianruby

From: mass.

Is anyone going to the Joyous Lake tonight? I sure wish I wqas. Let us know how it goes. Also, anyone going to new Hampshire on the 18th to see the Honky Tonk Gurus? I would like to see you there.


Posted on Wed Mar 1 20:55:09 CET 2000 from mnet05-56.austin.texas.net (207.207.3.140)

laura holt

From: austin

Does any one know where I can obtain the PBS special that was on a few months back in the States. Levon is driving around Arkansas in this old car and he is so LEVON!! He says something as he drives by this old dive the Hawks use to play at and says "that there was a shit hole and a half!!" I was rolling I was laughing so hard. He is just so down to earth!! At any rate the special was great! Like a fool I DID NOT TAPE it and WANT it very badly. If anyone can help me with getting this great documentary on "The Band" I would so much appreciate it. I watched the Rhino tape on "The Band" last night AGAIN for the 100th time and it's so hard to see Rick play "When you Awake" ...it almost brings me to tears!! I almost FF through it so I wouldn't get upset. RIP Ricky!!!


Posted on Wed Mar 1 16:49:15 CET 2000 from (208.218.212.223)

David Powell

From: Georgia

Eric Andersen's writing, like his music, is both eloquent and moving. His touching farewell to Rick, woven with so many wonderful stories about a man he cared for deeply, is a testament that could only be written by a kindred soul.

As others have mentioned, Eric has just released another great album, "You Can't Relive The Past." The songs on the CD draw inspiration from spirits of two other friends who have passed on, Townes Van Zandt and Robert Palmer. Eric reworked four songs he wrote with Townes back in 1986. Several of the songs were recorded in Mississippi with veteran bluesmen who had worked with Mr. Palmer on his Fat Possum recordings. The album's title song was written with Lou Reed, who also sings & plays acoustic guitar on the cut. Eric Andersen & Lou Reed performing together--no need to say anything more!

The moaning Delta blues-inspired music, complete with the wild "microtonal" slide guitar of Kenny Brown, balanced along with acoustic folk-styled songs recorded in New York, present a colorful blend of fabric for Mr. Andersen to weave his fine songs. Although he didn't take part in the recording sessions, when I listen to this album I can almost hear Rick Danko singing beautiful harmonies in the background.

Eric's album was released by the small indie label, Appleseed Recordings, based in the Brandywine country of Pennsylvania. Appleseed has released many fine albums, including Eric's previous recording "Memory of the Future" among others. Check Eric's website for futher details and support the indie labels.


Posted on Wed Mar 1 05:20:49 CET 2000 from dialin-148-73.montreal.primus.ca (216.95.148.73)

Katser

From: The Leap Day

I too would like to express my heartfelt thanks to Marty for the very fine photo of Rick from 1980. So enigmatic and so sensual. Since I have no fireplace, and hence no mantle, there's no danger of my framing it and putting it there, but I printed a copy and will cherish it nonetheless.

My thanks as well to the person who posted the link to Eric Andersen's very lovely and moving letter of farewell. It is full of such wonderful vignettes. My favourite? Rick getting up in the night to tend to the fire when Eric fell ill at his home. That's just the kinda guy he was...


Posted on Wed Mar 1 02:29:20 CET 2000 from m198214176061.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.61)

pehr

From: texas

thanks for the feedback on the notes on redboy. I'm practicing my thinking and writing skills here with the music that moves and challenges me. all the feedback is good for me. thanks friends and mates.

to sum, I let this album grow on me slowly since it came out (originally I didnt care for it.) well, I got more curious and started to look into it, listening to it and taking notes and looking at the packaging and writing what I felt come out. What I gained was the opinion that while this probably not RR's greatest work it is a great personal achievement for him to use his gifts and talent toward realizing his highest expressive purpose,and committing to that vision with courage, abandon, and directness. The "Hero's Journey" in Robertson's case begins with the answer of the "Call" through these songs, addressing topics full of history, myth, mystery, tragedy, ecstacy, doom, atonement in many faces. Having seen the purpose and creative necessity behind the form, I spent a few listens just musing on the packaging, then the songs and images themselves.

The packaging of "Redboy" noticeably connects itself to the theme and content of the record, eschewing of the prevalent hard plastic casing that envelopes most major releases in favor of a biodegradable paper sleeve. The image on the cover shows Mr. Robertson standing along the storefronts of a town, at night, amidst the shadows and artificial neon light and advertisments that we in the occidental culture are so used to, home to subjuects of countless powerful rock songs from Abba to Frank Zappa. But what of the curious red spiral of light beam that moves thru all the photos on the jacket, and the peculiar use of reverse typography given in the layout?

Spiral. one of the most ancient of designs used by aboriginal cultures universally, most often read to relate to going within to the central reality that lies behind the exterior facade. Complimented by the use of reverse type, like the reflection in water, suggesting layers, levels depth, a labyrinth a condition of flow, super reality, without beginning, middle or end. The pronounced blot of red that punctuates the spiral form itself is a another circle at the root of the spiral. Perhaps this is the root point of contact with "Redboy"'s underworld. alive, secret reality in the midst of the quiet wet store lit streets that could be anywhere, pointing into the body suit and penetrating to the heart of Robertson's slightly weary looking figure.

The circle/spiral design was recognized as the most sacred of shapes in Native American art and culture- Its appearence here is no accident. As just mentioned, it is a graphic depiction of a form that has no beginning or end that serves to remind us of the interrelatedness of all things in the absolute, where ultimately there are no differences or separation. This particular system of all relatedness is held in common by all Native American cultures that I am aware of, and defines the thread of unity that lies at the center of Native American spirituality.

In this particular worldview, all forms in nature related their genesis to this circumference- the shapes of the trees, stems, rocks, bodies of water, land, torsos, winds, seasons, the movements of the heavens, and all the cycles of life paid homage to this. There was no end to life, but a new beginning; a return to the spirit world, or in birth a return to the earthly realm... a system to be repeated until sufficient development gained to the ultimate destiny of unification with the ultimate creative force of forces from which all things come, all that is, also known as "Great Spirit" or "Great Mystery."

According to this panthiestic worldview all of life in all it's forms and relations are worthy of reverence. Beyond notions of respect, reverence implies a surrender to forces beyond human understanding at work in the commonplace, while respect, on the other hand, implies a judgement of relative worth, or hierarchy. With the reverential perspective there is no pecking order of life forms because all things have their sacred position to form the function of the totality beyond our understanding. There is a familial relation of all things on earth personified in concepts as "Grandmother Earth", "Grandfather Sky", Mother Water, Father Fire, as well as the common bonds between the wind, rock, plant kingdoms, and the six, four, two legged beings and so on that shared a common collective here on Planet Earth, also known in Indian myth and lore as "Turtle Island" (A name given to the world in the most earliest of times by the fertility mother to remember the brave turtle that was willing to sacrifice his freedom to provide the first firmanent after the great flood.) Before this "Great Flood" was a time of innocence when all the elements were able to speak and communicate with each other and us, but certain two legged species began to separate themselves, divide and conquer which upset the circle which was divided into segments of 4's and 3's to help us see what was good and evil as clues around us. The Native American prayers have a tradition of ending with "All My Relations"- to my seeing it the quest for the unification and truth with the source as the "Contact from the Underworld" Robertson seeks. more on circles, sweetgrass, shapes and vibrations later. thank you for reading!


Posted on Wed Mar 1 01:27:41 CET 2000 from spider-wm014.proxy.aol.com (205.188.199.154)

dennis

From: Hey, is that grass that was under all 'a that snow that's melted away in Saugertie, NY?

For all of you ladies 'n gentlemen out there...IT'S SHOW TIME! Haven't ever seen a fine blues band with an rock 'n roll hall of fame acordian player? If you're fortunate enough to live close, tomorrow's your chance. Hey, throw in the drummer! Show time at The Lake is scheduled for nine p.m. Anyone need directions, please don't hesitate to ask.... Dennis


Posted on Wed Mar 1 01:27:48 CET 2000 from trt-on57-36.netcom.ca (216.123.101.36)

John Donabie

Peter Viney......I got the information from the CDNow site. If you go to the Rotogravure album, it's lists everyone on the album underneath and what they did. I don't know where they get their information.


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