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The Band: Live at the Academy of Music 1971

Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, June 2011


Entered at Thu Jun 30 19:40:45 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Both Wilco and Nick Lowe have new albums due out in September as the tour begins.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 18:47:05 CEST 2011 from (32.177.52.133)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: NL & Wilco

Todd -

I mostly agree with you but an opening assignment can be dodgy with folks finding their seats, gabbing away and loaded for a more rollicking event than Nick L. For a decade or more his shows have been fairly mellow with a truly silent, smallish and fully respectful audience.

I sure hope it works out and I'll be there if they come west. Wilco just covered his song: "I Love My Label" too -

Anybody else heard Elvis C's "National Ransom"? I just got it yesterday and the jury is out -


Entered at Thu Jun 30 17:39:56 CEST 2011 from (69.177.242.99)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Nick Lowe

JQ, I don't think it's all that odd. While much of Wilco is electronic experimental rock in the Soniuc Youth stye, very much of it is deeply rooted in country and folk traditions and even classic rock. I think it's actually a good fit. many Wilco fans are probably also Nick Lowe fans.

And isn't Nick Lowe the one who told Elvis Costello and the Attractions when he was producing them, that he wanted the music to sound like dinosaurs chomping on cars.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 17:31:25 CEST 2011 from (174.89.117.65)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Garth

Jeff.....Thanks for the review of the Garth performance and the golf joke.................Just the mention of Will Lee reminds me of how much better the David Letterman band was in the original - NBC scaled down version.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 16:52:24 CEST 2011 from (166.205.143.183)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Wilco & Nick Lowe

Nick Lowe has signed on to be the opener for Wilco's fall tour. A bit of an odd pairing given NL's country crooner style, especially if it's an electric Wilco show.

Still a genuine show of respect for the old bird, eh?


Entered at Thu Jun 30 13:52:23 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson recent Q & A.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 11:21:25 CEST 2011 from (41.97.134.214)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: grandiose


Entered at Thu Jun 30 11:10:17 CEST 2011 from (41.97.134.214)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Baaziz, featuring the whole extreme left-wing singers, part of them were excluded from the commercial network, the lifetime media appearance to display their hidden art. 1995
The text expresses the purest form of patriotism under the worst insults addressed to everything official.
just like Dylan in We Are The World, Amazigh Gnawa-Diffusion, goes out of tune, monopolizes the microphone, and imposes his own vibes 1:30-1:52
Jimmy Oihid, a handicapped singer 3:00-3:10 : poignant !


Entered at Thu Jun 30 10:55:18 CEST 2011 from (41.97.134.214)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: all-lists list / all-stars list

Paradoxally, the easiest list to establish, that is the most accurate one, was the”duets list”

The finest The Band songs list imposes itself, it can be set without our intervention

The best “out of The Band songs” list was easy to state, as I followed a statistic method, with no sentimental criteria I ranked the number of times each song was played on my turntable during the last 50 years, most songs I owned in 45rpm singles; indeed it was easier to completely dissociate them from the best album list

The best album list; actually an impossible exercise

*********** **************

Now let’s go for the best all-stars songs list

1 - The Last Waltz - I Shall Be Released
2 - We Are The World , written by Lionel Ritchie
3 - Algérie Mon Amour : Baaziz
4 – Les Restos du Coeur – Text Coluche, Music Jean Jacques Goldman .

Les Restos du Cœur is a charitable institution, its main activity is to distribute food packages to the needy. It was founded by the great French humorist Coluche in 1985. Les Enfoirés (“The Screwed Ones” or "The Tossers" or "The Bastards"), is the name given in 1985 to all-stars singers and show personalities who perform the yearly charity concert for the Restaurants du Cœur (Restaurants of the Heart).

I give a tip-off to those who have nothing
Without ideology, speech or sales pitch
We don’t promise you the “soon” of the big nights
But just food and drink for the winter

To the of age and unemployment
The of cake, excluded from sharing
If we think of you, it's actually selfish
Tomorrow, our names will be added to the list

Today, no one has longer right for hunger or cold
No “everyman for himself”, when I think of you, I think of myself
I don’t promise you the big night, but just to eat and drink
A little bread and heat, In the restaurants of the heart

By the past, there was always a place at the table
A soup, a chair, a seat in the barn
Today our eyes and our eyelids are closed
The others are always, always in overdose

I have no guilty conscience, nothing to break sleep
But to be honest, it just spoils the taste of my pleasures
It's not really my fault if you are hungry
But it would become, if I don’ try to change it

I have no way to change your life
But if I can help for a few hours, I’ll do
There's so many troubles, too many for an inventory
But it happens here, here and today


Entered at Thu Jun 30 10:09:38 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Golf

Arthur is 90 years old. He's played golf every day since his retirement 25 years ago. One day he arrives home looking downcast. "That's it," he tells his wife. "I'm giving up golf. My eyesight has got so bad, once I've hit the ball, I can't see where it went." His wife sympathizes. As they sit down, she has a suggestion: "Why don't you take my brother with you, and give it one more try." "That's no good," sighs Arthur. "Your brother is a hundred and three. He can't help." "He may be a hundred and three," says the wife, "but his eyesight is perfect." So the next day, Arthur heads off to the golf course with his brother-in-law. He tees up, takes an almighty swing, and squints down the fairway. He turns to the brother-in-law. "Did you see the ball?" "Of course I did!" says the brother-in-law. "I have perfect eyesight." "Where did it go?" asks Arthur. "Can't remember."


Entered at Thu Jun 30 10:05:45 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmp(Friend0

Subject: Organasm

Garth was the final performer. Took BB King's stage,greeted the audience by extending his arms high and wide to form a V. Lots of instrumentals, including JOs Blues, Johnny 0tis's Blues...& I Don't Want No Anchovies On My PIzza.
Second song- Don't Do It. MUsicall and emotionally powerful, a muscular version.Maud has perfected her vocal.... every nuance in every appropriate emotion,full range of three people's vocals scales.. Tears of Rage came later. Exiting the stage, Garth gave the crowd a couple more Vs. Anton Fig and Will Lee were their normal amazing selves....Oz Noy is a wonderful guitar player, but, overplayed a few times, and out of key a few times.

The first three performer, s Jonathan Baptiste, Robert walter, Marco Benevenuto, were excellent. Garth got onstage, the air in the room thinned, the crowd was elevated to Mt Olympus. Diferent level, different sounds. Sounds that you don't get from anyone else. \m Skollie fans. Fig told me that Blondie Chaplin will be in town in a couple weeks, and Skollie will be playing The Bitter End.

Visited with Garth and Maud, helped Jeff from New Paltz load his truck full of Garth's equipment (that Jeff hustled his tucchas, I just helped some), and saw Garth & Maud off.

Lars, Garth wore his black hat.And his Los Lobos jacket.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 08:13:08 CEST 2011 from (198.36.218.33)

Posted by:

Jerry

Thank you Al. I had heard the Boss, not surprisingly bid a wonderful farewell to The Big Man. Until now I was unable to find it, so thanks for posting that...


Entered at Thu Jun 30 04:26:54 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Wishing

Damn if it ain't on youtube. Man.....I don't know......I try to put this page up here.......it don't work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMm67HidE.

This is beautiful to listen to.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 04:14:58 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Light Bulb !

Just after I clicked that off Bob, (maybe because your name is Bob) the light bulb switched on. It was Bob Montgomery. He and Buddy started playing together and writing in grade seven.

The song Kevin & Mary Chapen Carpenter do is called "Wishing". Just a beautiful laid back ballad and their voices together are magic.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 04:06:05 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Synility

Thank you Bob, you are absolutely right. I've just done cooking supper and sitting down with Susan. I was going to go and dig out that video.

It gets pretty frustrating when you can't remember these names. I think your mind gets trained in your course of life. When I'm working, people rattle off to me numbers, and machinery that I'm moving. I rarely have to write anything down, I just remember it. Also words to songs, (I'm slipping a little) but not much. But names.........I'm a total screwup.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 03:10:31 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Norm, I believe that is Kevin Montgomery??


Entered at Thu Jun 30 01:58:52 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: E Street Trilogy

Thank you Al......that was great of you to bring that to us. For anyone who has ever listened to and had rock & roll in their life, Bruce & Clarence were a real big part of that life.

On another note,re duos, I've been stubbornly fighting with myself, to remember a name. It's escaping me. I'm going to have to go and plug the video in to get it.

On the "Not Fade Away" album, Mary Chapen Carpenter does a duo with Kevin, I can't remember his last name. His father was the first one to ever write songs with Buddy Holly. The song they do was never finished. As Waylon narrates, Buddy was working on it when he died.

The way they harmonize this song, is pure magic. I'll go and put the gawd damn video in and get back to yuz.


Entered at Thu Jun 30 00:53:31 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Bruce Springsteen's epitaph for his friend - deeply emotional and moving

BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN:

FOR THE BIG MAN

I've been sitting here listening to everyone talk about Clarence and staring at that photo of the two of us right there. It's a picture of Scooter and The Big Man, people who we were sometimes. As you can see in this particular photo, Clarence is admiring his muscles and I'm pretending to be nonchalant while leaning upon him. I leaned on Clarence a lot; I made a career out of it in some ways.

Those of us who shared Clarence's life, shared with him his love and his confusion. Though "C" mellowed with age, he was always a wild and unpredictable ride. Today I see his sons Nicky, Chuck, Christopher and Jarod sitting here and I see in them the reflection of a lot of C's qualities. I see his light, his darkness, his sweetness, his roughness, his gentleness, his anger, his brilliance, his handsomeness, and his goodness. But, as you boys know your pop was a not a day at the beach. "C" lived a life where he did what he wanted to do and he let the chips, human and otherwise, fall where they may. Like a lot of us your pop was capable of great magic and also of making quite an amazing mess. This was just the nature of your daddy and my beautiful friend. Clarence's unconditional love, which was very real, came with a lot of conditions. Your pop was a major project and always a work in progress. "C" never approached anything linearly, life never proceeded in a straight line. He never went A... B.... C.... D. It was always A... J.... C.... Z... Q... I....! That was the way Clarence lived and made his way through the world. I know that can lead to a lot of confusion and hurt, but your father also carried a lot of love with him, and I know he loved each of you very very dearly.

It took a village to take care of Clarence Clemons. Tina, I'm so glad you're here. Thank you for taking care of my friend, for loving him. Victoria, you've been a loving, kind and caring wife to Clarence and you made a huge difference in his life at a time when the going was not always easy. To all of "C's" vast support network, names too numerous to mention, you know who you are and we thank you. Your rewards await you at the pearly gates. My pal was a tough act but he brought things into your life that were unique and when he turned on that love light, it illuminated your world. I was lucky enough to stand in that light for almost 40 years, near Clarence's heart, in the Temple of Soul.

So a little bit of history: from the early days when Clarence and I traveled together, we'd pull up to the evening's lodgings and within minutes "C" would transform his room into a world of his own. Out came the colored scarves to be draped over the lamps, the scented candles, the incense, the patchouli oil, the herbs, the music, the day would be banished, entertainment would come and go, and Clarence the Shaman would reign and work his magic, night after night. Clarence's ability to enjoy Clarence was incredible. By 69, he'd had a good run, because he'd already lived about 10 lives, 690 years in the life of an average man. Every night, in every place, the magic came flying out of C's suitcase. As soon as success allowed, his dressing room would take on the same trappings as his hotel room until a visit there was like a trip to a sovereign nation that had just struck huge oil reserves. "C" always knew how to live. Long before Prince was out of his diapers, an air of raunchy mysticism ruled in the Big Man's world. I'd wander in from my dressing room, which contained several fine couches and some athletic lockers, and wonder what I was doing wrong! Somewhere along the way all of this was christened the Temple of Soul; and "C" presided smilingly over its secrets, and its pleasures. Being allowed admittance to the Temple's wonders was a lovely thing.

As a young child my son Sam became enchanted with the Big Man... no surprise. To a child Clarence was a towering fairy tale figure, out of some very exotic storybook. He was a dreadlocked giant, with great hands and a deep mellifluous voice sugared with kindness and regard. And... to Sammy, who was just a little white boy, he was deeply and mysteriously black. In Sammy's eyes, "C" must have appeared as all of the African continent, shot through with American cool, rolled into one welcoming and loving figure. So... Sammy decided to pass on my work shirts and became fascinated by Clarence's suits and his royal robes. He declined a seat in dad's van and opted for "C's" stretch limousine, sitting by his side on the slow cruise to the show. He decided dinner in front of the hometown locker just wouldn't do, and he'd saunter up the hall and disappear into the Temple of Soul.

Of course, also enchanted was Sam's dad, from the first time I saw my pal striding out of the shadows of a half empty bar in Asbury Park, a path opening up before him; here comes my brother, here comes my sax man, my inspiration, my partner, my lifelong friend. Standing next to Clarence was like standing next to the baddest ass on the planet. You were proud, you were strong, you were excited and laughing with what might happen, with what together, you might be able to do. You felt like no matter what the day or the night brought, nothing was going to touch you. Clarence could be fragile but he also emanated power and safety, and in some funny way we became each other's protectors; I think perhaps I protected "C" from a world where it still wasn't so easy to be big and black. Racism was ever present and over the years together, we saw it. Clarence's celebrity and size did not make him immune. I think perhaps "C" protected me from a world where it wasn't always so easy to be an insecure, weird and skinny white boy either. But, standing together we were badass, on any given night, on our turf, some of the baddest asses on the planet. We were united, we were strong, we were righteous, we were unmovable, we were funny, we were corny as hell and as serious as death itself. And we were coming to your town to shake you and to wake you up. Together, we told an older, richer story about the possibilities of friendship that transcended those I'd written in my songs and in my music. Clarence carried it in his heart. It was a story where the Scooter and the Big Man not only busted the city in half, but we kicked ass and remade the city, shaping it into the kind of place where our friendship would not be such an anomaly. And that... that's what I'm gonna miss. The chance to renew that vow and double down on that story on a nightly basis, because that is something, that is the thing that we did together... the two of us. Clarence was big, and he made me feel, and think, and love, and dream big. How big was the Big Man? Too fucking big to die. And that's just the facts. You can put it on his grave stone, you can tattoo it over your heart. Accept it... it's the New World.

Clarence doesn't leave the E Street Band when he dies. He leaves when we die.

So, I'll miss my friend, his sax, the force of nature his sound was, his glory, his foolishness, his accomplishments, his face, his hands, his humor, his skin, his noise, his confusion, his power, his peace. But his love and his story, the story that he gave me, that he whispered in my ear, that he allowed me to tell... and that he gave to you... is gonna carry on. I'm no mystic, but the undertow, the mystery and power of Clarence and my friendship leads me to believe we must have stood together in other, older times, along other rivers, in other cities, in other fields, doing our modest version of god's work... work that's still unfinished. So I won't say goodbye to my brother, I'll simply say, see you in the next life, further on up the road, where we will once again pick up that work, and get it done.

Big Man, thank you for your kindness, your strength, your dedication, your work, your story. Thanks for the miracle... and for letting a little white boy slip through the side door of the Temple of Soul.

SO LADIES AND GENTLEMAN... ALWAYS LAST, BUT NEVER LEAST. LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE MASTER OF DISASTER, the BIG KAHUNA, the MAN WITH A PHD IN SAXUAL HEALING, the DUKE OF PADUCAH, the KING OF THE WORLD, LOOK OUT OBAMA! THE NEXT BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES EVEN THOUGH HE'S DEAD... YOU WISH YOU COULD BE LIKE HIM BUT YOU CAN'T! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE BIGGEST MAN YOU'VE EVER SEEN!... GIVE ME A C-L-A-R-E-N-C-E. WHAT'S THAT SPELL? CLARENCE! WHAT'S THAT SPELL? CLARENCE! WHAT'S THAT SPELL? CLARENCE! ... amen.

I'm gonna leave you today with a quote from the Big Man himself, which he shared on the plane ride home from Buffalo, the last show of the last tour. As we celebrated in the front cabin congratulating one another and telling tales of the many epic shows, rocking nights and good times we'd shared, "C" sat quietly, taking it all in, then he raised his glass, smiled and said to all gathered, "This could be the start of something big."

Love you, "C".


Entered at Wed Jun 29 23:07:40 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Raining In My Heart

Then there's Slim (Scratch My Back/Shake Your Hips) Harpo's "Rainin' In My Heart".


Entered at Wed Jun 29 22:22:37 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Chimo!

RtO: Looking for something else, I was surprised to find this link to a record that I first heard on Boxing Day 1974. Nothing new for you I'm sure, but the heavily leslied organ intro is what first made me aware of the organ's potential for majesty in rock and roll.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 21:44:26 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Robbie (also in the previous posted link) @ Coyote & Emmett's Montreal wedding.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 21:34:08 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Web: My link

Subject: Bill M re Sparkjiver /The Lowrey organ mod revival has started!

Yeah, enjoyed Sparkjiver. The sax-organ-drums format did at first fill me full of dread because the funny thing is that for an organist I'm really not that big on jazz. But no matter: the guy's bass work (sounds like a mix of good solid left hand and feet is awesome - really drives the band along like a bass guitar would which is unusual, most organ bass is there to do a job rather than drive the thing along like a bass player would - but this guy is different, particularly on the second CD. Very nice.

An organ & bass duo I am very fond of, from supper-club stuff like Alan Haven & Tony Crombie right through to heavyweights like Lee Michaels/Frosty or Hardin/York. I was pleased (and disappointed having planned to do the same thing myself!!!) to see that one guy (Rory More) over here in London has formed an instrumental duo that - hallejulah - eschews the Hammond and instead uses a lovely old LOWREY HERITAGE (the smaller equivalent of the all-tube Festival/Lincolnwood models that GH used) through a vintage Leslie. What a great sound, really ballsy on the Leslie'd crescendos - and he nails the 60s mod vibe perfectly - See link.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 21:37:30 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Albert & Garth @ Coyote's Montreal wedding.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 21:19:38 CEST 2011 from (161.185.158.23)

Posted by:

Ray G

Location: NJ

I agree, Dave. Rick did a beautiful live version of Raining In My Heart with Ringo. I was lucky enough to Rick & Levon in the 1st addition of Ringo & the All-Stars and Raining was a real nice change of pace... I can still see Rick up there with that Greyburst Takamime guitar.

Suzy Bogus and Dave Edmunds do a rockin' cover of "It Doesn't Matter Anymore" on the Buddy Holly tribute that also featured The Band covering Noy Fade Away. Suzy and Dave were helped out by Paul Franklin on Pedal Steel and he did some killer steel work... Dave Edmunds did some nice Chet Atkins style picking too.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 20:34:53 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: addendum for NorthWestCoaster

... but don't put a space between the backslash and the b


Entered at Wed Jun 29 20:25:24 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

To create a line-break without a space before a paragraph use backslash b


Entered at Wed Jun 29 20:19:32 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: Buddy Holly

Todd mentioned last week that Paul Anka wrote Buddy Holly's 1959 hit "It Doesn't Matter Anymore". The flip side was another great song, "Raining In My Heart", written by Felice & Boudleaux Bryant, who also wrote many hits for the Everly Brothers. "Raining In My Heart" became a favorite of Rick Danko and his version with Ringo's All-Starr Band featured the late/great Clarence Clemons.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 20:12:19 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: no......No..........NO!

Kevin! There is no #31. We haven't been given the right to do that yet.........take it back.......right now!


Entered at Wed Jun 29 19:56:08 CEST 2011 from (83.249.104.9)

Posted by:

(Type (a "backslash" and an "n") to create paragraphs in your message. If I demonstrate it just creates a paragraph, but it's this \ n (but without a space)

Location: NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Nordic Countries

Peter, I'm confused :-)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 19:45:54 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: PIL

Kevin J: And Johnny Rotten never sounded so good as this; so good, in fact, that it'd've been on my original list if I'd thought of it at the time.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 19:23:03 CEST 2011 from (174.89.117.65)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

….and maybe that is why rock n roll is dead….not only could you tale U2 and ColdPlay home to your parents……they were your parents…………….last thought on duets….at this year’s Rock n Roll Hall of Fame ceremony, Paul Simon inducted Neil Diamond and joked that the duet with Barbara Streisand on “He Don’t Bring Me Flowers” is why the Hall kept him out for 25 years! Like all good jokes, it had some truth to it….

Above link is my pick no. 31 – Paul Anka never sounded better! Enjoy.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 19:11:32 CEST 2011 from (74.190.125.13)

Posted by:

Mike C

Subject: Two Cents Dept.

1-King Harvest

2-We Can Talk

3-Chest Fever

4-Ain't No More Cane

5-It Makes No Difference

6-Katie's Been Gone

7-Rag Mama Rag

8-Ophelia

9-Whispering Pines

10-To Kingdom Come


Entered at Wed Jun 29 19:05:06 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: killer track

Pat B: loved your bonus track - and what a nifty project!
For vols 4 / 5, the PVC have got to cover R. Thompson "Poor Will and the Jolly Hangman" and "When I Get to the Border."

(Or the PVC splinter group, The Pine Box Boys.)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 18:50:39 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Exactly my point, Joan. Ditto John v Paul. Cliff v Elvis.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 18:40:08 CEST 2011 from (108.41.170.6)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Beatles vs Stones

In the late 60's we used to say the you could bring the Beatles home to Mom, but The Stones were the ones we wanted and they were not "Bring to Mom" material


Entered at Wed Jun 29 17:51:35 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

26. Shipyards-Interview

27. Up On The Roof-James Taylor

28. King Horse-Elvis Costello

29. Country Girl-CSN&Y

30. The Rain Song-Led Zeppelin

31. (Bonus Track) Death Where Is They Sting-Pat Brennan (offered as an example of what a limited vocal range can accomplish--very little)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 17:13:55 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Sparkjiver - love that name

RtO: Check out the link - to the instrumental trio Sparkjiver, featuring the late/great Rod Phillips on organ. It lets you play two songs from their first album, and a few more from the second (though not their "Shape I'm In", unfortunately).


Entered at Wed Jun 29 17:11:36 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: John Wayne was my hero, nufsed

SADAVID- Are you saying that the boys in the Hudson Valley are effeminate? (FM...ing it)

I forgot Leslie Gore's "Isn't That the Look of Love," Sinatra's "The Summer Wind" and Simon & Garf's "For Emily, wherever..."

Back to weeding & my back is getting played out.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 16:39:29 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Suspicious Mind......

One of my all time favourites.....I misplaced while I was writing, is:

There is a rose in Spanish Harlem.........as I was thinking about that, remembering Phil Spector was one of the penman of that song, what has happened with the "Spector Saga"??


Entered at Wed Jun 29 16:32:11 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: there he is near Yokahama, eating barbecued iguana ...

Fred: As you're a "Pinball Wizard" fan, you're bound to appreciate the guys playing a bit of it behind Robbie's first funny-string guitar break on "He Don't Live Here No More".

Al E: As you're fond of "Green Manalishi", I thought I'd use that as a portal into the puzzling success of the Tragically Hip. You know how in "Green M" the resolution never comes, that it's impending throughout? Same goes for many of the Hip's classics. Not necessarily the one in the clip, but still ...

Pat 'Perfect Stranger' B: I'd say that the best part of "Pretty Flamingo" is Jack Bruce's vocal harmonies towards then end. Do you know of anyone who has in real life survived likening the significant other to a flamingo? "Sweetheart, you're so sunburnt and ungainly. And that beak ... Ouch." My Mannfred Mann entry would be the much later "Singing The Dolphins Through", which came to mind when I watched videos of Clarence Clemons' solo on "Jungleland".

Al E: I suspect Pat B, like I, stopped at 25 to allow some space for late-arriving inspiration. I've had a number of lightbulbs go on reading other people's lists - sometimes their songs, sometimes their artists, sometimes a hint of something that leads somewhere else - like Toots and the Maytal's "Pressure Drop", like the T. Rex's "Ballrooms Of Mars", like Baaba Ma'al's "Call To Prayer", like Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's "Khenna Galat Galat To Chuppana Sahi Sahi", like Israel Kamawiwo'ole's "Over The Rainbow", like Nina Simone's "Sinner Man".

Al E: Good of you to nod in the direction of Bobby Elliott's drumming. Best example in my book is the flip side of the "Hey Willy" 45, "Row The Boat Together".


Entered at Wed Jun 29 15:32:10 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: Fleetwood Mac

Al: Lars & Bob F. each had a FM pick. And my Bluesbreakers pick rates an honourable mention because "The Supernatural" is the prototype for "Black Magic Woman" (as I point out about once per year). Is it coincidence that Santana's multi-platinum comeback album was called _Supernatural_?


Entered at Wed Jun 29 14:54:11 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Curiosity aroused, I put in Uncle Willy’s 1989 which arrived at the same time. Twelve on sleeve, 12 on CD. Twilight has apparently gained a longer title (Twilight is The Loneliest Time of Day), and a minute of a half of something else in front. Otherwise as listed (so far).


Entered at Wed Jun 29 14:50:29 CEST 2011 from (216.121.194.179)

Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: The List

In no particular order:

Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding

And When I Die - BS&T

Helpless - Neil Young

Georgia On My Mind - Ray Charles

I Heard It Through The Grapevine -Marvin Gaye

Satisfaction - Rolling Stones

Both Sides - Joni Mitchell

Have You Ever Really Loved A Woman - Bryan Adams

Silver Bells - Bing Crosby

Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum

Seasons Of The Heart - John Denver

Tupelo Honey - Van Morrison

Ballad Of Lucy Jordan - Barra MacNeils

Thousand Kisses Deep - Leonard Cohen

Oh What A Night It Was - Elvis

The Boxer - Simon and Garfunkel

Hallelujah - K.D.Lang

Disney Girls - Art Garfunkel

Song For A Winter's Night - Sarah McLachlan

Memories - Elvis

Midnight Train To Georgia - Gladys Knight

Late In The Evening - Paul Simon

I'm Your Man - Leonard Cohen

All shook Up - Elvis

Pull Me Through - Jim Cuddy

Loving Arms - Nana Mouskouri

Natural Woman - Aretha Franklin

Suzanne - Leonard Cohen

Dangling Conversation - Simon and Garfunkel

Free Man In Paris - Joni Mitchell

The Band:

Makes No Difference

The Weight

Cripple Creek

Ophelia

The Shape I'm In

Life Is A Carnival

Rag Mama Rag

W.S. Walcott Medicine Show

King Harvest

The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down


Entered at Wed Jun 29 14:49:09 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rick Danko Iron Horse 1995

Weird. I just got it. The back sleeve lists ten songs. The sleeve notes mention Blondie Chaplin doing Can't Find My Way Home and You Don't Own Me, and Ed Kaerchner doing Carolina On My Mind. Not mentioned on tracklist. Put the CD in and iTunes reveals these three, and a total of twenty tracks, ten more than listed, including Blue River, Blind Willie McTell, Stage FLIGHT (sic). It does make you wonder why such prominent songwriters as Bob Dylan, James Taylor, and Eric Clapton / Steve Winwood don't get their tracks listed on the sleeve, or on amazon. For Robbie (if Sebastian is reading), the mechanicals for The Weight, Stage F(l)ight, and Twilight presumably won't be turning up either. They're on the CD, but not the sleeve.

I begin to think that the suspicions mentioned may have foundation.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 13:25:53 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Westie

Ha ha - love it man - how funny is that last post.

Too much.

:-0)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 13:05:11 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: It's a shambles!

Yuh have to start at the beginning, and go with what was your favourite at that time of yer life. To pick 30 miserable little songs out of a lifetime of music, is the next thing to impossible. When you think you've just got it all finalized....then you go, "oh yeah but......."

I'm convinced he's tryin' to drive us over the "Edge". It's some kind of middle east plot to drive us all crazy so they can sneak in and take over....and we'll all be Islamic!

Starting.........very early in life:

Mississippi Delta Blues - Jimmy Rogers

Hey Good Lookin' - Hank Williams

Back Street Affair - Webb Pearce

Long Black Veil - Lefty Ferzel

Blue Moon of Kentucky - Elvis P

Should We Tell Him - Everly Bros

Come Go With Me - Del Vikings

Little Darlin' - Diamonds

Blue Swede Shoes - Carl Perkins

Leah - Roy Orbison

Young Love - Sonny James

Honky Tonk Man - Johnny Horton

Mac The Knife - Bobby Darin

Soul Deep - Boxtops

Mountain of Love - Johnny Rivers

Early Mornin' Rain - Gordon Lightfoot

Sweet Little Sixteen - Chuck Berry

Into The Mystic - Van Morrison

The Weight - The Band

Have You Ever Seen The Rain - John Fogerty

Take it Easy - Eagles

Night Movers - Bob Seger

Cherry Bomb - John Mellencamp

Runnin' Kind - Merle Haggard

End is Not in Sight - Amazing Rythm Aces

On.......to.......10 Band Favourites.....Now there is a kind of goofy question here. 10 Band favs, & 10 best done Band songs.....well.........mine are the same. Yer gonna have to live with that fact. And if you don't stop this, I'm gettin' the next plane over there to choke the shit outta yuh! ..........naw I got to think on that some more. Can't take these tasks "lightly" y'know!

Ophelia - Rockin' Chair - The Weight - Makes No Difference - Up On Cripple Creek - Acadian Driftwood - King Harvest - The Saga of Pepote Rouge - Life is a Carnival - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down


Entered at Wed Jun 29 13:01:40 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Making lists

See Jan's instruction:

(Type (a "backslash" and an "n") to create paragraphs in your message. If I demonstrate it just creates a paragraph, but it's this \ n (but without a space)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 12:58:33 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: REVISED revisions

I’ve redone the order because of the points system. I also decided to abandon my one per artist policy as it distorts it. So four or five changes, Al.

1) Visions of Johanna – Bob Dylan

2) No Woman No Cry (live) – Bob Marley & The Wailers

3) Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes - Paul Simon

4) Like A Rolling Stone – Bob Dylan

5) Baby You’re A Rich Man – The Beatles

6) Hey Jude – The Beatles

7) Private Number – William Bell & Judy Clay

8) Waterloo Sunset – The Kinks

9) What’s Going On – Marvin Gaye

10) Madame George – Van Morrison

11) A Whiter shade of Pale- Procul Harum

12) C’mon Everybody – Eddie Cochran

13) Surf’s Up- The Beach Boys

14) Nadine – Chuck Berry

15) Satisfaction – The Rolling Stones

16) Cathy’s Clown – The Everly Brothers

17) His Latest Flame – Elvis Presley

18) Born To Run – Bruce Springsteen

19) Mercy, Mercy – Don Covay

20) Respect – Otis Redding

21) Dreams – Fleetwood Mac

22) Walk Like A Man – The Four Seasons

23) Uncle John’s Band – The Grateful Dead

24) Quicksilver Girl- Steve Miller Band

25) Fallin’ Rain – Link Wray

26) The First Cut is The Deepest- P.P. Arnold

27) Time After Time- Cyndi Lauper

28) Rescue Me – Fontella Bass

29) Willin’ – Little Feat

30) Little Red Corvette- Prince



Entered at Wed Jun 29 12:58:37 CEST 2011 from (95.150.137.72)

Posted by:

Michelle

Location: Ascot

Subject: Lists

Sorry Al,tried to get it in 'list' form, my computer skills are not very good! How do you do that?


Entered at Wed Jun 29 12:56:58 CEST 2011 from (95.150.137.72)

Posted by:

Michelle

Location: Ascot

Subject: Lists

Hi All, my list; 1. Such a Night - Dr. John 2. One Too Many Mornings - Bob Dylan 3. To Live's To Fly - Townes Van Zandt 4. You've Lost That Lovin Feelin - Righteous Brothers 5. Closing Time - Tom Waits 6. Sittin On the Dock of the Bay - Otis 7.Sweet Little Mystery - John Martyn 8.Tupelo Honey - Van Morrison 9.Visions of Johanna - Bob Dylan 10. Most of the Time - Bob Dylan 11.Far Away in another Town - Justin Townes Earle 12.This Land is Your Land - Woody Guthrie 13.London Calling - The Clash 14.My Baby just cares for Me - Nina Simone 15.Paint it Black - Rolling Stones 16. Mr. Bojangles - Sammy Davis Jnr. 17.A Boy Named Sue - Johnny Cash 18. To Love Somebody - Bee Gees 19.I've Got you under my skin - Frank Sinatra 20.Redemption Song - Bob Marley 21.Maggie May - Rod Stewart 22. Children of the Revolution - Marc Bolan 23.Waterloo Sunset Ray Davies 24.My Daddy was a Bank Robber - The Clash 25. Me and Bobby McGee - Janis Joplin 26.Hey Joe - Jimi Hendrix 27.Tomorrow is a Long Time - sung by Elvis 28.Lay Down Your Weary Tune - Bob Dylan 29.Diamonds and Rust - Joan Baez 30. Coyote - Joni Mitchell


Entered at Wed Jun 29 12:43:07 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Stay etc

Fleetwood Mac, I had Dreams. And I had Walk Like a Man by The Four Seasons which opens “The Wanderers” film.

Al, you say the younger girls liked Cliff, but that’s too do with our ages at the time. Circa 1962, girls who wanted to be older liked Elvis, girls who wanted to be younger liked Cliff. The same point really. The boys were all into The Shadows definitely. I wasted hours of my life learning to painfully pick out Shadows tunes (I can still do several bars of Foot Tapper). We all did. To a British perspective, The Shadows were better than The Ventures (who allegedly are the worldwide second best selling beat group of the 60s!)

Sorry, the Hollies “Stay” is the worst version ever recorded of a great song. They take it at a frenetic pace and lose the melody. Best by a mile, Maurice Williams and The Zodiacs. Second best, The Four Seasons. Most interesting and fun revisit, Jackson Browne. Best bass guitar part, Jackson Browne. Best recent one, Jackson Browne and David Lindley. We recorded a new version of “Stay” for one of my ELT / ESL books a few years ago, and we sat there with five or six versions. Everyone agreed the Hollies didn’t work in comparison to any other version. I even had a late Maurice Williams live club version, which was very rough, but still better. We borrowed the handclaps from the Four Seasons version, and the swapping to a female voice from Jackson Browne, and the producer put on a stylus drop and vinyl crackle intro to give a retro feel. I’ll see if I can work out how to load it on my blog.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 12:11:46 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Best Duet. Ever. ; )

Hatred (A Duet) -The Kinks


Entered at Wed Jun 29 12:10:14 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: The 30 (only Pop & Rock)

1. Pinball Wizard - The Who

2. American Pie - Don McLean

3. Werewolves of London - Warren Zevon

4. Is She Really Going Out With Him? - Joe Jackson

5. Blackbird - The Beatles

6. Night Flight - Led Zeppelin

7. Generals and Majors - XTC

8. Fireworks - Tragically Hip

9. Stay With Me- Faces

10. Walking On The Moon - The Police

11. Marakesh Express - CS&N

12. Only Love Can Break Your Heart - Neil Young

13. Rock and Roll Doctor - Little Feat

14. Dead Skunk - Loudon Wainwright III

15. Short People - Randy Newman

16. Don't Stop Me Now - Queen

17. Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell

18. What Is and Should Never Be - Led Zeppelin

19. 5:15 - The Who

20. Train In Vain - The Clash

21. Reelin' In The Years - Steely Dan

22. Papa Was a Rolling Stone - The Temptations

24. Mexican Radio - Wall of Voodoo

25. Senses Working Overtime - XTC

26. It's The End of the World... - R.E.M.

27. Got To Get You Into My Life - The Beatles

28. 6 Months in a Leaky Boat - Split Enz

29. Express Yourself - Charles Wright & The Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band

30. Will It Go Round In Circles - Billy Preston


Entered at Wed Jun 29 11:52:46 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Fleetwood Mac

I nearly put one in, but it never made it yesterday.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 11:48:50 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Change

I think I've got to take out my Lucinda Williams. I put it in because I'm playing her a lot just now, but I've got to think of longevity. But, as George Harrison said songs have to be given time to bed in. For example, I think Paul Simon's Father and Daughter is really up there, but will it ever be seen as a Simon classic. Still I've to take it out. Maybe Passionate Kisses is the Lucinda Williams defining song, but I don't have her version.

I'm going to replace it with Killing Me Softly With His Song by Roberta Flack.

But the omissions are glaring. Have I got the right Dylan, Beatles, Stones?

No Four Seasons, Tony Joe White - Rainy Day in Georgia and Bumbles got me into James Carr. I love Dark End of the Street.

And then songs are related to memories. Better not go too far down that road, but Bob W, I chose 'Was a Sunny Day' because it broke when we were having a great family holiday in St Andrews.

And I think some music stays fresh. I always love listening to Mr Tambourine Man and play regularly The Loving Spoonful's Greatest Hits.

PS. Finding The Band's Top Ten a very difficult exercise.

And life's OK. I saw the sun yesterday for the first time in what seemed ages. And Paul played 'Here Comes The Sun' on Friday.

Thanks Al. I've really enjoyed reading other people's lists.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 11:23:05 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: And to Complete the Peter Green love in

How are these for fast fingers...Oh Well...as you were


Entered at Wed Jun 29 11:19:03 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Green Manalishi

Just jaw dropping how amazing Peter Green really was in that brief late sixties supernova explosion.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 11:11:10 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Er..

Not a solitary original Fleetwood Mac selection so far. Can't be right. Surely?

Albatross, Black magic woman, Man of the World [linked], Oh Well, Green Manalishi.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 10:59:03 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Feck me..

I've only done ten posts this morning...better get crackin'

:-0)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 10:57:16 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: How feckin great were Manfred Mann

Another stonewaller linked - what a great tone Paul Jones had - ordinary in many ways but magical.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 10:53:44 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: PAT B - Pretty Flamingo

Might actually reshuffle to include it in mine Pat.

In meantime, link for is Bruce milking it for all it's worth. I guess you may have already seen it but always worth another view.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 10:45:16 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: How the feck...

...can I do a fave top 30 and not have the Bronx's finest in?!!!!!


Entered at Wed Jun 29 10:36:15 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Hollies Stay

Forgot the link


Entered at Wed Jun 29 10:35:01 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Me and my Shadows

My recollections are a bit different Pete.

Round our way I seem to remember it was the young girls who loved Cliff. Cathy Cowling the girl next door used to run up to the telly and scream and kiss it whenever Cliff came on.

the lads used to love the Shadows and a few loved Elvis. The Shadows seemed to have a street cred that cliff never ever achieved. I think it was the tunes and their titles that did it - Apache, FBI, The Savage, Kon Tiki sounded amazing and the tunes lived up to it - and don't forget what a real lad's lad Jet Harris was with that Kenton haircut.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 10:28:27 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Stay

Thanks for that Empty.

Got to say I love it all but I think the best bit is Rosemary Butler hitting those high notes early on.

I can never decide my favourite version of this. I love the nice and slow and easy Jackson Browne takes, I love the slow and easy original Maurice williams & Zodiacs version [of course] and I love the frantic Hollies take [linked] especially Bobby Elliot's fantastic drumming.

Just a fabulous song I guess.

Also it's reminded me I never selected a solitary doo wop in my top 30. Never right. Jeez - I could pick 30 alone. Also no Northern Soul. No Mockinbird. Feck. This whole thing was a bad idea.

nah, I'm lovin' it really.

:-0)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 10:24:45 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

So much great stuff keeps appearing. The Book of Love by Magnetic Fields! That’s another play it with the cover version (Peter Gabriel, on the Shall We Dance OST but also on his recent one) and try to compare the virtues of both. Magnetic Fields wins in the end. As Al is using the New Musical Express rating system (30 points for no 1 and 29 for no 2 etc), I’ll need to re-order my list and revise. I keep drifting on my Stones track, with a vague idea that Memo From Turner by Jagger solo or Satisfaction should be first.

Cliff Richard was huge in Europe. The “charts points” battle alternated Elvis-Cliff-Elvis-Cliff for years. 100 chart hits in the UK was a line passed several years ago. The early stuff, 1958-1963 is still excellent. Then he started drifting into crap, but he had that 80s revival with We Don’t Talk Anymore and Devil Woman. But elvis was similar. You can point to Cliff’s awful Congratulations, but Elvis did Wooden Heart, a horrible song.

A couple of years ago they started re-issuing the albums of live early TV shows. The early ones are disappointingly lame, but then Cliff Richard appeared and lifted the quality. You can hear it clearly in the albums. A CD of a scrapped 1962 live album appeared a few years ago, and with several friends we compared it to other early 60s live stuff. It got “best recorded drums” by a mile (Brian Bennett of The Shadows).


Entered at Wed Jun 29 09:57:40 CEST 2011 from (41.97.196.25)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: my fave duets

1 – Jackson Browne & Bruce Springsteen – Stay, No Nukes Concert 1979, the rare recording where one can hear Clarence Clemons performing a vocal, "AND YOUR DAD DON'T MIND" [2:17-2:20] in the link above

2 – John Denver & Placido Domingo – Perhaps Love
3 – Jean-Jacques Goldman & Michael Jones – Je Te Donnes
4 – Stevie Nicks & Tom Petty – Stop Dragging My Heart
5 – Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush – Don't Give Up
6 – Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee – Down By The Riverside
7 – Sting & Mami – Desert Rose
8 – Toots & Ben Harper – Love is Gonna Let Me Down
9 – Barbara Streisand & The Bee Gees – Woman in Love
10 – Khaled & Noah – Imagine


Entered at Wed Jun 29 09:38:47 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Lars

I actually meant a great 8 not 9.

Not a huge JS fan. In fact I'm not one at all.

:-0)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 09:12:07 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: These lists

Just knocked out by some of the selections.

Would just make the following reminders seeing as my original post is way down the GB by now.

Norm - no more feckin excuses - get yer friggin arse in gear!!!!!! ;-0)

The idea was for a top 30 not 25 - so Pat [some great picks btw] and Bill [likewise] you've still got work to do!!!!!

Some posters are saying in no particular order which is fair enough except for scoring I'll still be giving 30 points to the first in your list and only 1 point to the last in your list. So if you'd like to score more heavily with any particular song then bear that in mind. I mean so far there's not a huge amount of doubling up - which shows just how eclectic the tastes on here are - so tactical voting could well play a part in the final definitive GB lists if posters so wish.

Oo er - :-0)

For latecomers - don't forget we also want you choice of the top 10 FINEST Band songs.

Again, I'll repeat anybody wanting to amend their list for afterthoughts and/or tactical voting feel free to do so. It's probably easier for me if you do a revised complete list.

Finally, Serenity - I think we're all chomping at the bit to see your lists.

:-0)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 08:57:03 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Jeff, Bill M, Lars

Jeff - ha ha - love it - a spot of genuine Brooklyn gust[o] is a real hoot :-0)

Bill - So Sad - agree mate - a stonewall classic - Gene does a great version [not quite Don and Phil standard :-0)] on I think Fantastic Expedition with Doug Dillard. Incidentally just remembered it's the one and only James Burton playing that gorgeous guitar on Love Hurts.

Lars - love your top 9


Entered at Wed Jun 29 06:21:59 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Set Lists

Speaking of infrequently performed, I think 'This Wheels On Fire' was the lead off song for Levon's set this past weekend at the Wilco Solid Sound Festival in Massachusetts. See link for a photo of the set-list from Levon's Facebook page.

Still working on my top thirty, but at the moment it's 3 pages long. Tooooo long......


Entered at Wed Jun 29 06:14:36 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Garth & Maud

Manana!!! B.B.Kings NYC!

Maud will be singing Band songs, including one that has been noted here by one rather persistent denizen as too infrequently performed!

anyone close enough by, get thine tucchas to the show!


Entered at Wed Jun 29 06:09:53 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Al, would you believe that i was compiling all these lists today on a break from doing what i was doing....that I was sitting in my van....when just about done, I got a phone call, then without placing the pages in the glovebox or my pocket, took off driving and the son of a gun blew out the window?.....



Entered at Wed Jun 29 04:43:34 CEST 2011 from (24.44.103.67)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

How do you like that - ignorance is bliss - so i look up CLiff Richard and find out he had 10 Top 40 singles in the US including 3 in the Top 10. Maybe its because he never had staying power because I never hear his songs on the car radio. We have an oldies station programmed in as well as a soft rock and we have 101.5 which is talk all week but the weekend is a mix of everything from the 50's to fairly recent - though the fairly recent ones are to the soft pop side. Can't say I've ever heard the songs they listed of Cliff's except for his 80's hit. By the looks of things he isn't hurting for cash regardless of where he is or isn't big.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 04:32:22 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Well.......I'll try

Maybe I'll have a little time tomorrow Al.

I don't know about your area Brien.......and........maybe you're a little too young.

Early to mid 60's Cliff Richards was very big....a least around these parts. His hit, "Summer Holiday", about 1962 hung on for a long time. There were quite a few others.

The Shadows were kind of neck & neck with the Ventures for a while there. Google the Shadows, "Apache". It was big for a long time, although I think the Ventures was better.

The Shadows did some great instrumental stuff, "The Rise & Fall of Flingel Bunt", "When Leaves Will Fall", "Perfidia". There were a lot of songs that were distinctive to them, at that time.

I'll get to my picks Al. Many will be the same as many others, but shit.....I was listening to them when they first ever happened. The Ever Lovin' Brothers????, "Walk Right Back"!


Entered at Wed Jun 29 04:28:18 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: Top 30

My top 30, not including any of The Band's songs

1. Like A Rolling Stone- Dylan
2. Get Back- The Beatles
3. Lido Shuffle- Boz Scaggs
4. Hungry Heart- Bruce Springsteen
5. Hickory Wind- The Byrds w/ Gram
6. Little Town Flirt- Del Shannon
7. That Lady (parts 1&2)- Isleys
8. Let's Stay Together- Al Green
9. Jane- Jefferson Starship
10. Cherry Bomb- John Mellancamp
11. What Does It Take- Jr Walker...
12. Georgia On My Mind- Ray Charles
13. Heart Full of Soul- Yardbirds
14. How Long- Ace
15. Gimme Shelter- Stones
16. Melissa- AB
17. Rock Salt & Nails- Helm & Martyn
18. Desert Rider- Bush Brothers
19. New Orleans- Trampled By Turtles
20. My Back Pages- The Byrds
21. Do You Remember- Phil Collins
22. Harvest Moon- Neil Young
23. Powderfinger- Neil Young
24. After the Thrill Is Gone- Eagles
25. Gentle On My Mind- Glen Campbell
26. Jealous Dream- Arm Brothers
27. Sail On Sailor- Beach Boys
28. Can't Find My Way Home- Steve Winwood
29. Sara- Fleetwood Mac
30. Africa- Toto


Entered at Wed Jun 29 03:58:30 CEST 2011 from (63.133.201.130)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Here goes, snob & dilettante & regrets for the missed ones already

Ain't No Way - David Lindley

Blind Willie McTell - Bob

The Book Of Love - Magnetic Fields

Cathy's Clown - Everly Brothers

Dixie - The Band

Dark End Of The Street - James Carr

I Couldn't Believe It Was True - Willie Nelson

I Read A Lot - Nick Lowe (YouTube only until 9-2)

I've Got A Woman (live) - Ray Charles

Man In Love - Charlie Feathers

Rainy Night In Georgia - Brook Benton

Ramblin' Man - Hank Williams

Rockin' Chair - The Band

Rome Wasn't Built In A Day - Nick Lowe

Shelley's Winter Love - Merle Haggard

Song For Woody - Dave Van Ronk

Sympathy For The Devil - Stones

Tender Loving Care - Buck Owens

Train Of Love - Johnny Cash

Valerie - Richard Thompson

The Weight - The Band

Well, Well, Well - John Lennon

What's Shakin' On The Hill - Nick Lowe

When You Awake - The Band

Whispering Bells - Del Vikings

Wynona's Big Brown Beaver - Primus

You've Really Got A Hold On Me - Sam Cooke/Lou Rawls



Entered at Wed Jun 29 02:41:45 CEST 2011 from (24.44.103.67)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

My parents watched the Sonny and Cher show. they thought it was amusing. What I saw of it I remember laughing. As for Cliff Richard - if he didn't have his one hit here, and that didn't come until the early 80's I think, I don't believe many Americans would have ever heard of him. Maybe he's Britains Tragically Hip to the US - though I can't recall his hit here, I remember liking it.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 01:36:10 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: cold and fog

Subject: one good thing

"One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain" . (B. Marley)


Entered at Wed Jun 29 01:31:13 CEST 2011 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

Al E: One untoppable Everly Brothers song is "So Sad To Watch Good Love Go Bad". Staying with today's kitchen motif, its a wonder that the tune hasn't been used for a Tupperware commercial - So Sad To Watch Good Food Go Bad.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 01:27:29 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

I can't tackle the issue of where to put them on my list but I couldn't agree more on Thunderclap Newman's "Something In The Air"...( yet another great tune compliments of Pete Townshend ).....and Dunc's choice, "Do You Believe In Magic", is right on the mark as it is one of the great Pop/Rock songs ever recorded.

Thanks to everyone for some great reading and some very timely reminders.


Entered at Wed Jun 29 00:49:52 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

1. Like A Rolling Stone-Bob Dylan

2. What's Goin' On-Marvin Gaye

3. Pretty Flamingo-Manfred Mann

4. Wreck of the Hesperus-Procol Harum

5. Something In The Air-Thunderclap Newman

6. In My Life-Beatles

7. Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore-Walker Brothers

8. Under Pressure-Queen/Bowie

9. Lost In America-Jon Langford

10. I Can't Let Go-Edie Sands

11. Angelou-Van Morrison

12. Ray of Hope-The Rascals

13. Year of the Knife-Tears For Fears

14. Terminal Condition of the Heart-Prince

15. All I Really Wanna Do-The Byrds

16. Hello It's Me-Nazz

17. Anyday-Derek & The Dominoes

18. Wait In Vain-Annie Lennox

19. Telstar-The Tornadoes

20. Hoppipolla-Sigur Ros

21. Thunder Road-Bruce

22. Let Him Run Wild-Beach Boys

23. Rock n Roll Doctor-Little Feat

24. What Do You Want The Girl To Do-Lowell George

25. Love Shine Down-Dusty Springfield


Entered at Wed Jun 29 00:05:47 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Elvis & Cliff

Prompted by today’s discussion, I had an Elvis day. It reminded me of the youth club 1961 to 1963 where the world was divided into Elvis fans and Cliff fans. I don’t think America had quite this divide, as no one ever compared to Elvis in success. In Britain, Cliff Richard and Elvis Prseley ran neck and neck for chart points from around 1959 to 1964 (then Cliff pulled in front). Allegiance was important, and the lads believed that female Elvis fans were … how do I put this politely in modern terms … “livelier” than female Cliff fans. The same divide appeared in the early Beatles days, with the Elvis crew gravitating to John and the Cliff crew to Paul. (Ringo was beloved of those still playing children’s records, and George by silent loners). Then the same divide in 1964/ 65 went into Stones (the Elvis fans) v Beatles (Cliff fans). But the origin was strong. Most of my pals were into Cliff / Shadows, and I was into Elvis, which they couldn’t understand. I really like early 60s … Return to Sender, His Latest Flame, Little Sister, Devil in Disguise. Listening today to She’s Not you it struck me how precise his enunciation was. They must have sent him for singing / elocution lessons. He’s as crisply clear as Paul Simon around that time.

And in straight singing terms, he has no equal.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 23:46:43 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Sonny & Cher

For non-Americans, we never saw the Sonny & Cher show on TV, thus they were never tarred with that brush.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 23:42:52 CEST 2011 from (174.89.117.65)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: I Can't Get No....

These lists really are a blast to read…… dig Bob F’s list which is so good he even manages to sneak in a Sonny & Cher at 21 that is immediately surrounded by such great selections that one hardly notices…..”Sunday Morning Coming Down” is a redo for me…………………….Curious though that a song so good and so pure rock n roll like “Satisfaction” is now being out voted by Sonny & Cher……I believe only Dunc has a vote in for the mighty Satisfaction……..was I so affected by growing up in the 70’s and only seeing the truly nutty Sonny and Cher show on TV that I am that out to lunch on their music?


Entered at Tue Jun 28 23:15:38 CEST 2011 from (69.123.3.201)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley, NY

Subject: Top 30

1. Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
2. Thunder Road - Bruce Springsteen
3. Hey Jude - The Beatles
4. Save The Country - Laura Nyro
5. Moonlight Mile - The Rolling Stones
6. A Change is Gonna Come - Sam Cooke
7. I Can't Make You Love Me - Bonnie Raitt
8. Bernadette - Four Tops
9. Summer Days - Michael Mcdermott
10.Modern Lovers - Garland Jeffreys
11.Fire and Rain - James Taylor
12.That Girl Could Sing - Jackson Browne
13.Girl In The War - Josh Ritter
14.If I'm On The Late Side - The Faces
15.To Love Somebody - Bee Gees
16.Poor Side of Town - Johnny Rivers
17.Sunday Morning Coming Down - Kris Kristofferson
18.Love Has No Pride - Linda Ronstadt
19.It's A Man's, Man's, Man's World - James Brown
20.Redemption Song - Bob Marley
21.I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher
22.Accidently Like A Martyr - Warren Zevon
23.Always On My Mind - Elvis Presley
24.Powderfinger - Neil Young
25.Mandolin Wind - Rod Stewart
26.Where Do The Children Play - Cat Stevens
27.Goodbye - Steve Earle
28.Straight Into Darkness - Tom Petty and The HB's
29.Landslide - Fleetwood Mac
30.The Mountain - Levon Helm


Entered at Tue Jun 28 22:43:57 CEST 2011 from (198.36.218.33)

Posted by:

Jerry

I've never seen that before Al...Thanx...Bruce is amazing to say the least...I hope he hits the road again, although it will never be the same with out The Big Man...


Entered at Tue Jun 28 22:36:08 CEST 2011 from (95.150.137.72)

Posted by:

michelle

Location: Ascot

Subject: covers etc.

Love Bruce covers, many thanks Al, songwriting rule No.23 Bill M.? how about Warren Zevon's Poor Poor Pitiful Me, 'she put me through some changes Lord, sort of like a Waring Blender' a great line but yeah agree with you about simile, although it kind of works in this song, maybe because Warren is singing it!


Entered at Tue Jun 28 22:13:01 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Bruce & Melissa

Yeah - really enjoyed that Jerry. Not seen it before

A Bruce one you might not have seen. His take on Elvis's Follow That Dream. Pretty amazing. He's rewritten the lyrics so it becomes an entirely different song.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 22:09:45 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Bill M

You are pulling my chain Bill.

Nobody loves the Evs more than I - so many classics and their Let it Be me is to die for - but come on Gram and Emmylou take that song to heights unimaginable.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 22:06:09 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Al E: Chacun a son gout and all, but I would rate that as neither the definitive version of the song nor the definitive duet. It does eclipse the Capaldi version, but pales in comparison to Everly & Everly, and I'd rather here Nazareth, who at least changed "Love is like a stove" to "Love is like a flame". (Songwriting rule 23: when rendering a romantic simile, never choose a household appliance.) I wish I'd thought to tell my classmate at our 33-year reunion a couple of months ago that I still remember his line that the Nazareth guy sounds like he's singing that song with a pickle up his ass. As for duets, category: bombast, how 'bout Eros Ramazotti and Tina Turner?


Entered at Tue Jun 28 21:54:45 CEST 2011 from (198.36.218.33)

Posted by:

Jerry

Web: My link

I can take or leave most duets, but Bruce and Melissa doing Thunder Road back in the day is a favorite of mine


Entered at Tue Jun 28 21:31:05 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Sorry guys and gals...

..but if we're talking in terms of "definitive" then someone please point me in the direction of a duet that eclipses this piece of pure heaven from Gram and Emmylou

...[scurries back to his tiny secret list lair to fiddle the scores in his own favour - Bruce will triumph ha ha ha ha ha]

:-0)


Entered at Tue Jun 28 21:18:26 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Looked to me like the can-basher had killed that drum good and dead between 00:02 and 00:06, but no, it's still going right to the end. Persistence: a fine thing in an instrument.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 21:10:20 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Edge of Listeria

ha ha.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 21:05:06 CEST 2011 from (95.150.137.72)

Posted by:

Michelle

Location: Ascot

Subject: Duets/Band favourites

Al, et al., favourite duets Bob and Johnny Cash - Girl from the North Country and Levon and John Martyn - Rock Salt and Nails. Band Songs: King Harvest It Makes No Difference Acadian Driftwood The Weight Pepe Rouge Cripple Creek The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down Chest Fever The Rumor The Stones I Throw compiling my list of favourite songs, will get back to you as soon as possible, enjoying all your lists!


Entered at Tue Jun 28 21:01:53 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: the definitive duet

I can never think of these things when I'm trying to . . . I came across this one by accident.
Not a great song, but a couple of great voices.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 21:01:17 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: "She's Not There" is another song I thought of and wished I'd included in my list when I saw "Time Of The Season" on yours. This one's okay, the Santana one's great, but nothing compares to the original. Speaking of nothing comparing, another one I wish I'd thought of was Sinead O'Connor's "NC 2 U"; another one, which Peter V's list reminded me of, was "Time After Time". Another, courtesy Dunc, I believe, was "Do You Believe In Magic". There's still the hard part - subtracting.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 20:39:41 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: More Country Duets

Singing the lead role on "The Legend of Jesse James", Levon performed with Charlie Daniels on "The Old Clay Country", with Johnny Cash on "The Death of Me" and Emmylou Harris on "One More Shot". Danko/Fjeld/Andersen later covered "One More Shot".


Entered at Tue Jun 28 20:33:44 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: sadavid

Beggars Farm! What a lovely choice; might have to rethink To Cry You A Song and instead opt for "Move On Alone"...


Entered at Tue Jun 28 19:41:59 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Case & Cave cover The Zombies

This one was tipped by the _Globe_; it just seems appropriate to pass it on, given the 'duets' discussion, plus "She's Not There" almost figured in the sadavid Top 30 . . . of course, "Chest Fever" is practically a rewrite . . . .


Entered at Tue Jun 28 18:35:09 CEST 2011 from (108.41.170.6)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Top ten Band songs

In no particular order:1. It Makes No Difference

2. Acadian Driftwood

2. Rag Mama Rag

3. Ophhelia

4. We Can Talk

5. King Harvest

6. Rocking Chair

7. When You Awake

8. Dixie

9. Twilight

10. Bessie Smith

It was hard to chose.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 17:29:37 CEST 2011 from (174.89.117.65)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Didn’t mean to get anyone upset yesterday – just having some fun with Peter on duets. No doubt there have been some good ones but indeed the” fat guy in a tent” describes well the sad area it became…..then again the “guy with a beard singing with a not hip enough for FM lady” could also describe some of the atrocities that occurred…….Insert Barry Gibb/Barbara Streisand or Kenny Rogers/and God knows who else, or rest easy in the proof that duets can truly take down all-time great singer songwriters with the memory of the wretched beyond all belief “Ebony & Ivory” care of Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder.

Lists: What I really like about these lists is picking up on some songs that I did not really know of……bob w’s list leads in that category with 8-10 that I was not familiar with……….also on the Band Top 10’’s…..”Twilight” came to my top 10 only after purchasing the box set and hearing the Robbie sounding like Richard demo….before that it would not have been in my top 25 Band songs.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 17:01:14 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Well, that version of Brown Shoe was certainly old. Good that you thought of "Something In The Air" - a song I will include in my own list (Revision #1).


Entered at Tue Jun 28 15:46:32 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: the edge of listeria

I. Band:
Unfaithful Servant
King Harvest
When You Awake
We Can Talk
Rag Mama Rag
Chest Fever
Ruben Remus
Yazoo Street Scandal
Acadian Driftwood
Whispering Pines

II. Other:
All Along the Watchtower – Jimi Hendrix
Badge - Cream
Beggar’s Farm – Jethro Tull
Caruso – Roy Buchanan
Concrete Jungle – The Wailers
Cry Me A River – Joe Cocker
Death Letter – Son House
Discovering Japan – Graham Parker & The Rumour
Dreadlock Holiday – 10cc
Gimme Shelter – The Rolling Stones
Goin’ Back – The Byrds
Green River – Creedence Clearwater Revival
Heart Like a Wheel – Kate & Anna McGarrigle
I Can See For Miles – The Who
I’ll Take You There – The Staple Singers
I’m Ready – Muddy Waters
Keep Me From Blowing Away – Linda Ronstadt
My Old School – Steely Dan
Never Again – Richard and Linda Thompson
Old Brown Shoe – The Beatles
On the Road Again – Canned Heat
People’s Parties – Joni Mitchell
Small Town Talk - Paul Butterfield's Better Days
Something In the Air – Thunderclap Newman
Stand Back – The Allman Brothers Band
Summer in the City – The Lovin’ Spoonful
The Supernatural – John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers
Watching the Detectives – Elvis Costello
Watching the River Flow – Bob Dylan
Woodstock – CSNY


Entered at Tue Jun 28 15:43:34 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Levon & Wilco (Solid Sound) - live The Weight.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 15:24:14 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Country Duets

In addition to success as a solo artist, The Band's old friend Conway Twitty recorded many great duets with Loretta Lynn. With such hits as "After The Fire Is Gone" and "Louisianna Woman, Mississippi Man", Conway & Loretta became the top country duo is the early '70s.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 12:47:51 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Top thirty

This has been so difficult. I've picked 30 different atists. No Band apart from a cover. There are probably only three surprises Down By The Henry Moore(great song, just ordered the BARK duets) by BARK - great band, thanks to Steve and Bill M.

Michael Marra - AL - Ricky Ross described him as Scotlnd's best song writer.

And the Lucinda Williams track. Did not know which one to choose, but I play her all the time. Here they are:

Blue Suede Shoes - Elvis Presley

Mr Tambourine Man – Bob Dylan

Keep On Running - Spencer Davis Group

May You Never – John Martyn

Happed In Mist – Michael Marra

I’ll Feel A Whole Lot Better – The Byrds

Was A Sunny Day – Paul Simon

Waterloo Sunset – The Kinks

Can’t By Me Love – The Beatles

Down By the Henry Moore – Blackie and the Rodeo Kings

You Got It – Average White Band

Albuquerque – Neil Young

Suite Judy Blue Eyes – Crosby, Stills, Nash

Have I Told You Lately – Van Morrison

Who Knows Where The Time Goes – Fairport Convention

The Heart of Saturday Night – Tom Waits

Perfect Day – Lou Reed

God Only Knows – The Beach Boys

The Loving Spoonful – Do You Believe in Magic

Free – All Right Now

Joe Cocker – Out of the Blue

Stevie Wonder – You are the Sunshine of My Life

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell – The Onion Song

Rolling Stones – Satisfaction

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles – The Tracks of my Tears

The Who – My Generation

John Fogerty – Who’ll Stop The Rain

Otis Redding – Sitting at the Dock of the Bay

Lucinda Williams – Right In Time

Carole King – Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?


Entered at Tue Jun 28 12:11:40 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Dunc

I'm already revising my Top 30 list after reading everybody else's.

As much as I adore them my two Italian arias do not resonate quite so deeply with me as my favourite beach boys Don't worry baby or the Love Hurts by gram and Emmylou. So they will have to be sacrificed as will one of my Stones and possibly a Beatles. I'm sorely tempted by baby You're a Rich Man - so many powerful memories of a long lost teen holiday romance - but hey Jude is just so immovable.

I would just reassure everyone it doesn't present a huge problem with revised selections provided you make it clear what's replacing what.

Norm - never mind the feckin excuses - just quit friggin in the riggin and get yer friggin lists done.

:-0)

Dunc, as for Elvis - Blue moon of kentucky, Suspicious Minds, That's alright Mama, Suspicion, Jailhouse Rock plus 5 which I can't recall right now.

:-0)


Entered at Tue Jun 28 11:47:40 CEST 2011 from (173.178.214.140)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Reins = kidnys. Moi non plus translates to "me, not much" in Canadian french.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 11:38:35 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: No Elvis!

I'm stuck here. I tend to (Marie's the Name of) His Latest Flame partly because the B-side is Little Sister, which would also be a top ten Elvis for me.

Suspicious Minds is tempting, but I possibly prefer Dee Dee Warwick's version.

I Just Can't Help Believing is so overdone that it veers into a 'guilty pleasure', but I love every second of it.

I Saw Her Standing There is oft-ignored, but it would be in my Top Ten Beatles list too. I prefer it to She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand, Please, Please Me or Love Me Do. I might prefer it to From Me To You as well, I'm not sure. That has happy memories. I'd argue for Please, Please Me as a potential best Beatles album even.

I think Al should get the spreadsheets warmed up and ready for best ten Elvis and best ten Beatles too.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 10:46:57 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Lists

Really enjoy everybody's lists. Great idea, Al. No Elvis in anybody's list?. Think of that young guy shocking the establishment with those movements. I'm going to take my time and do this right.

Al oh Al. No Gene Clark. I'm disappointed. I'm having a hard time deciding on 'I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better' or 'You Won't Have to Cry', both of which I love.

There will be a Marvin Gaye duet in my list.

Sorry Peter about concert.

Bob W:I always notice your affection for 'I Saw Her Standing There'. I think it is great too. It was great seeing Paul play it at the National stadium last year. But I don't think it'll make my list.

Adam2:Good luck. Looking forward to review.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 09:41:18 CEST 2011 from (75.34.41.26)

Posted by:

Adam2

Web: My link

I'll be on my way to New York today to attend the "Organ-asm" concert at BB King's. It turns out that Al Kooper, who was originally headlining the event and invited Garth to participate, cancelled due to illness. Garth is now headlining it seems - and that sounds wonderful. I'll post a report if anyone is interested. Wish me good luck while traveling!


Entered at Tue Jun 28 09:19:08 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Je t'aime

The version has an English translation box running. Serge's line is best translated as "Me neither" not "Me either" as indicated, and I think "reins" means 'kidneys' not 'loins.' (Which is why it got banned, partly). The French speakers here could help me!


Entered at Tue Jun 28 09:12:44 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: It Takes two

Soul and country seem to be the best areas. Marvin Gaye was a serial duetter … add Kim Weston to Tammi Terrell and Diana Ross. Then there's Ray Charles late on "Genius loves Company" duet album. Duets require swopping lead lines. Really, doesn't the swapping have to be part of the story?

In country, I wish I'd thought of Johnny Cash and June Carter. But 'Jackson' led me straight to another pair … Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazelwood. I was thinking Dolly Parton & Tommy James on Crimson & Clover, but Dolly takes all the lead lines (and who knows what the lyrics are about anyway), so I'd say it was "backing vocal by Tommy James" rather than a duet.

What about Jane Birkin & Serge Gainsbourg on Je t'aime? What about Brigitte Bardot and Serge Gainsbourg on Je t'aime (which was the first attempt at the song)? The latter is linked to start your day.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 07:05:49 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: The 10 Finest Band Songs

1 - Tears Of Rage
2 - The Weight
3 - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
4 - Rockin’ Chair
5 - Daniel And The Sacred Harp
6 - Katie’s Been Gone
7 - Caledonia Mission
8 - The W. S. Walcott Medicine Show
9 - Get Up Jake
10 - Ophelia


Entered at Tue Jun 28 05:52:35 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Over the EDGE!

I AIN'T GAWD DAMN DOIN' IT!!!!...........no time right now Al....later.

I had to run off to Vancouver this morning on a bit of business, over to the island tomorrow, then to work. Fuck this.....I want to get this retirement finished.

Now you guys may get a kick out of this. Does money ever really change you? When I was 9 my old man had to get into construction for a while, (heavy equip.), so we lived in Horseshoe Bay for about a year.

Horseshoe Bay is one of the very busy little villages where you get on the ferry to either the sunshine coast, (to come up where I live) or to Vancouver Island. I went to school for about a year with Gary Troll. Gary's old Dad, Joe had a fish & chip stand, (best in the country). Now we are talking..58 years later. They own a huge restaurant, (still the best fish & chips, i had 'em today), and they have a pub, 2 doors over.

In 1997, Gary won over 13 million bucks on the lottery. One day not long after, while waiting for the ferry, I went down to the pub for a sandwich. There's Gary sitting having a smoke, playing crib with his old buddies. I said what in hell you doing Gary, you should be laying on the beach somewhere. The guys laughed like hell and said, "He's still bussing tables in the restauant. He says, Norm, here's the best part, when I went to town to pick up the money, I bought a "scratch & win". I scratched it and won $10,000. That's when I wanted to punch him in the mouth. I know a few fairly big winners, and two really big. Couple of years ago, a friend in Port Hardy won 22 mill. He's still dicking around up there, bought out the fish smoking place, "to improve it".

About a month ago a guy I know in Campbell River won 38 mill......but......me I'm waiting for the big one. 52 million.......see I need that much to take care of creditors..............later gang


Entered at Tue Jun 28 05:23:58 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Levon at Wilco Fest

Thanks for the link Serenity. Here's another one of 'The Weight' that seems to be a little closer. There's also one floating around on Youtube of "I Shall Be Released', but it's pretty shaky (the video).

Duets:
How about Richard and Van on '4% Pantomime'? Or Clapton & Danko on 'All Our Past Times'. Or Emmylou Harris and Ryan Adams singing Gram Parsons' 'Return Of The Grievous Angel'...or even Adams and Emmylou on 'Oh My Sweet Carolina' from Heartbreaker. Or Johhny Cash and June on 'Jackson'.


Entered at Tue Jun 28 01:24:22 CEST 2011 from (99.235.255.183)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Link: Thought you guys would like to see this of LEVON & Wilco singing together. Not too good a vid, but you can make out LEVON on it.

Lots of good reading today. If I had the time, I would post my BAND list, but ooooh so busy of late. Thanx to all who posted their lists...

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


Entered at Tue Jun 28 00:32:27 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Duets may well be all we need to get by

But I'm buggered if I'm keeping score on them too!!

:-0)

That said, Gram [with the wonderful Emmylou] on Love Hurts is winging its way into my top 30 as we speak. Thanks for the reminder folks.

Pat - forgot to post re your great North/South insight - really looking forward to yours and DP's selections if you'd both be so kind. And for that matter jeff A - yours too.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 23:30:31 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

I don't mean to be pissed off, but Marvin Gaye and Tammi Tyrrel have like a whole album of great duets. And check out the rare soul of Jerry Butler and Brenda Lee Eager. George Jones and Tammy Wynette, Porter and Dolly, geez, what the hooey is wrong with some of you?


Entered at Mon Jun 27 23:20:21 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kiki Dee is great on that song. And Sonny & Cher on I Got you Babe does define a moment in time. You're The One That I Want & Summer Nights are still enjoyable here … but Grease is the most popular whatever of whatever. I reckon you were thinking Luther Vandross / Joe Cocker, or various fat blokes dressed in tents, that sort of thing in vomiting at duets, and I feel the peas, tomato skins and sweetcorn rising and about to hit the pavement too. (As Jasper Carrot says, why is it that whenever you vomit, there's peas and sweetcorn, even if you haven't eaten them for a year?)

But Otis & Carla is nothing like that. Judy Clay is a specialist. I don't like the Aretha and Bubble duet though.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 22:51:30 CEST 2011 from (174.89.117.65)

Posted by:

Kevin J

A look at no. 10……and glad soup was all I had for lunch……….not putting the career diminishing turn of Bowie and Jagger on “Dancing in the Street” is a positive – I’ll grant that……..and when a Sonny and Cher makes any list one does know that the genre is thin…. And the mention of ONJ and Tony Manero is very close to a “Cher at the Last Waltz” moment - is it not?


Entered at Mon Jun 27 22:29:44 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Duets … not all bad

A few decent male / female duets!

1) Private Number – William Bell & Judy Clay

2) Tramp- Otis Redding & Carla Thomas

3) Don’t Give up- Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush

4) Skin to Skin – Harry Belafonte & Jennifer Warnes

5) Cryin’ – Roy Orbison & k.d. lang

6) Mockingbird – Inez & Charlie Foxx

7) Come Outside – Mike Sarne & Wendy Richards

8) I Got You Babe – Sonny & Cher

9) Just Across The line – Billy Vera & Judy Clay

10) Don’t Go Breaking My Heart- Elton John & Kiki Dee

… and I didn’t even get to Leonard Cohen and … (Jennifer Warnes, Sharon Robinson, Anjani). Nor John Travolta & Olivia Newton John.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 21:52:53 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

The Band hit the rails on this day in '70 for the Festival Express.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 21:38:16 CEST 2011 from (174.89.117.65)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Let's stay on this top 30

Count me out of the Duets derby….I cannot think of an area of music that is more likely to promote vomiting than this one………quick test – think of 10 duets and try – try really hard to pick out one that will not bring up your lunch……….OK…….Roy Orbison and kd Lang…..


Entered at Mon Jun 27 21:12:11 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: top 25 - again in no particular order

John Lennon - "God"
Peter Gabriel - "Biko"
Rolling Stones - "Get Off My Cloud"
Who - "See Me Feel Me"
Kensington Market - "Half Closed Eyes"
Luke and the Apostles - "You Make Me High"
Byrds - "Turn Turn Turn"
Contours - "Do You Love Me"
Jefferson Airplane - "Somebody To Love"
Mingus - "Better Git Hit In Yo' Soul"
Bengali Bauls - "Say Hari Mynah Bird"
The Band - "King Harvest"
Levon and the Hawks - "The Stones I Throw" Youngbloods - "Get Together"
Cream - "White Room"
Hendrix - "Star Spangled Banner"
Sly and the Family Stone - "Everyday People"
Little Richard - "Rip It Up"
Eddie Cochrane - "Summertime Blues"
Fairuz - "Kemat Mariyam"
Chilliwack - "Rain-O"
Traffic - "Dear Mr Fantasy"
Fred Eaglesmith - "The Light Brigade"
Eric Burden and the Animals - "Sky Pilot"
Isley Brothers - "Shout"


Entered at Mon Jun 27 21:02:03 CEST 2011 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

If we do duets, then it will be groups, solo acts, etc. Then it will be nationalities: British, American, Canuckistani, mixed. Okay, count me in!


Entered at Mon Jun 27 20:57:06 CEST 2011 from (69.193.193.129)

Posted by:

Ari

Subject: Down In The Basement

Found bootleg "DOWN IN THE BASEMENT" in record store near St. Marks this weekend. It's says BOB DYLAN AND TINY TIM but it's pretty much The Band backing Tiny Tim on Be My Baby, Memphis, Tennessee and I Got You Babe. Tiny Tim is pretty bad here, Be My Baby is hard to listen to if not for the kick I get out of hearing Levon play those drum parts. The best on the album is Sonny Boy where Tiny Tim sings in his natural voice. Good stuff.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 20:55:07 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: top 10

Al E: Offhand and in no particular order: "King Harvest", "The Weight", "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down", "The Shape I’m In", "Rockin’ Chair", "The Stones I Throw", "Whispering Pines", "Lonesome Suzie", "When You Awake", "Where Do We Go From Here". THE cover tune's gotta be "I Shall Be Weweased".


Entered at Mon Jun 27 20:48:04 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Al inspired lists

The irritating thing is reading them and going "Oh! I missed …". The one that I'd like to squeeze in is Don't Give Up by Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush. Then that reminded me of Skin to Skin by Harry Belafonte & Jennifer Warnes. Let's have a best duets Top Ten next month.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 20:41:02 CEST 2011 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Subject: Top 30 Singles( No particular order, phew!)

1)Move On Up - Curtis Mayfield 2)Sail On Sailor - Beach Boys 3)Crossroads - Cream 4)Hello Mary Lou - Ricky Nelson 5)Time Of The Season - Zombies 6)Don't Miss With Bill - Marvelettes 7)Holding On To Yesterday - Ambrosia 8)Ooh, Ooh Child - Five Stairsteps 9)Funky Broadway - Wilson Pickett 10)She's Just My Style - Gary Lewis and The Playboys 11)Let's Spend The Night Together - Rolling Stones 12)I Knew You When - Billy Joe Royal 13)Make Me Wanna Holler - Marvin Gaye/n 14)Israelite - Desmond Dekker 15)Strawberry Fields Forever - Beatles 16)Positively 4th Street - Bob Dylan 17)Cindy Incidentally - Faces 18)Sign Of The Gypsy Queen - Lorence Hud 19)Nashville Sneakers - Guess Who 20)Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere - Neil Young 21)Smiling Faces - Undisputed Truth 22)What You See Is What You Get - The Dynamics 23)Faking It - Simon & Garfunkel 24)When I Die - Motherlode 25)Mother-In-Law - Ernie K. Doe 26)Still In Love With You - Al Green 27)Uptight - Stevie Wonder 28)It's A Shame - The Spinners 29)Pretty Lady - Lighthouse 30)Summer Breeze - Seals & Croft


Entered at Mon Jun 27 20:28:57 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Al, it seems to be pretty much an impossible task but here's a list of strong favorites of mine. Very difficult to rate one over another when you get into that level of songwriting and/or performance. Always good fun though and I appreciate your willingness to tackle the project. Thanks again.

1) I Saw Her Standing There – The Beatles

2) For You – Bruce Springsteen

3) Time Waits for No One- The Rolling Stones

4) Solesbury Hill – Peter Gabriel

5) My Girl – The Temptations

6) Too Busy Thinking About My Baby – Marvin Gaye

7) Waterloo Sunset – The Kinks

8) Let’s See Action – Pete Townshend

9) Vacant Chair – Steve Winwood

10) I’ve Just Seen a Face – The Beatles

11) 4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy) – Bruce Springsteen

12) Fountain of Sorrow – Jackson Browne

13) Debris – The Faces

14) Please Come Home for Christmas – Darlene Love

15) Loving Arms – Darden Smith

16) Acadian Driftwood – The Band

17) No Woman, No Cry – Bob Marley

18) Wild Children – Van Morrison

19) We Gotta Get You a Woman – Todd Rundgren

20) Cowboys to Girls – The Intruders

21) I Second That Emotion – Smokey Robinson and the Miracles

22) Needles and Pins – The Searchers

23) Having a Party – Sam Cooke

24) Love's In Need Of Love Today – Stevie Wonder

25) I Should Have Been True – The Mavericks

26) People Got to Be Free – The Rascals

27) Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad? – Derek and the Dominos

28) Now and Then – Pete Townshend

29) The Boxer – Paul Simon

30) I’ll Be Doggone – Marvin Gaye



Entered at Mon Jun 27 20:24:46 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: top 30 - Off top of my head - glaring omissions already blowing a hole.......

1. Can’t hardly Wait – The Replacements

2. Say it Ain’t So Joe – Murray Head

3. Visions of Johanna – Bob Dylan

4. I and I – Bob Dylan

5. Where are You Tonight – Bob Dylan

6. Let me Die in My Footsteps – Bob Dylan

7. Tangled Up in Blue – Bob Dylan

8. Mississippi – Bob Dylan

9. The Groom Still Waiting at the Alter – Bob Dylan

10.Born in Time – Bob Dylan

11. Like a Rolling Stone – Bob Dylan

12. Waterloo Sunset – The Kinks

13. Days – The Kinks

14. Good Day – The Kinks

15. Misfits – The Kinks

16. Lola – The Kinks

17. Maggie May – Rod Stewart

18. Every Picture Tells a Story – Rod Stewart

19. Country Comforts – Rod Stewart

20. Maybe I’m Amazed – The Faces

21. Hey Jude – Beatles

22. A Day in the Life – Beatles

23. Here Comes the Sun – Beatles

24. Life in the City – Stevie Wonder

25. Jody Girl – Bob Seger

25. If You Could Read my Mind – Gordon Lightfoot

26. Suzanne – Leonard Cohen

27. Tower of Song – Leonard Cohen

28. You Can’t Always Get what you Want – Rolling Stones

29. C’est La Vie – Chuck Berry

30. Changes – David Bowie


Entered at Mon Jun 27 20:18:33 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Paul Simon Postponed!

Argh!

**Due to battling a respiratory and throat problem, Paul Simon has decided to postpone this evening concert at the BIC.

We ask customers to retain your tickets and await further details of a postponed date.

Further information will be escalated from the point of sale.

I was lucky in that a guy stopped me on my way into the car park and told me before I paid to park, then I drove round and parked in the taxis only bit to hear the loudspeaker announcements. Check if you have tickets this week.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 20:02:23 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: The dirty thirty...

Al, to be honest at least 60% would change if you ask me tomorrow, but...

1. Billy Preston – Will It Go Round In Circles

2. Traffic – Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring?

3. Frank Zappa – Peaches En Regalia

4. Frank Zappa – Willie The Pimp

5. Mothers of Invention – Call Any Vegetable

6. Hot Tuna – Keep On Truckin’

7. Steve Miller Band – Song For Our Ancestors

8. Steve Miller Band – Dear Mary

9. Steve Miller Band – My Friend

10. Steve Miller Band – Livin’ In The USA

11. Grateful Dead – The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion)

12. Grateful Dead – Viola Lee Blues

13. Grateful Dead – Dupree’s Diamond Blues

14. Grateful Dead – Ripple

15. Brinsley Schwarz – Merry Go Round

16. Brinsley Schwarz – Ju Ju Man

17. Brinsley Schwarz – We Can Mess Around

18. Man – C’Mon

19. Beatles – I Want You (She’s So Heavy)

20. Beatles (Abbey Road Side 2 Medley)

21. Beatles - Hey Bulldog

22. Rolling Stones – Jigsaw Puzzle

23. Fairport Convention – Meet On The Ledge

24. Jefferson Airplane – Young Girl Sunday Blues

25. Heads, Hands & Feet – Tryin’ To Put Me On

26. Help Yourself – Alabama Lady

27. Sir Douglas Quintet – Didn’t Even Bring Me Down

28. Tommy James & the Shondells – Crystal Blue Persuasion

29. Bruce Springsteen – Thundercrack

30. Jethro Tull – To Cry You A Song



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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: correction

let's say 17 - Mick Jagger - Angie


Entered at Mon Jun 27 19:50:47 CEST 2011 from (41.97.184.71)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Ten finest The Band songs are : 1. TNTDODD, 2.AD, 3. IMND, 4.TW, 5.ISBR, 6.RC, 7.WP, 8.UOCC, 9.KH, 10. ATGD

my list of substitution if Al Edge agree: here are songs that i played the most all along my time, excluding songs from all the albums i already listed as favorite

1 – David Mac Williams – Days of Pearly Spencer
2 – Ottis Redding – Security
3 – Sniff’n the Tears – Driver’s Seat
4 – Bob Dylan – Sara
5 – Fleetwod Mac – Sarah
6 – Bob Marley – Redemption Song
7 – 10CC – Dreadlock Holiday
8 – Dire Straits – Sultan of Swing
9 – Shocking Blue – Venus
10 – Machiavel – Rope Dancer
11 – Kayak – Ruthless Queen
12 – Toots and the Maytals – Love is Gonna Let Me Down
13 – The Beatles – Let it be
14 – Scott Mac Kenzie – San Francisco
15 – Jefferson Airplane – Somebody to Love
16 – Don McLean – American Pie
17 – The Rolling Stone – Angie
18 – Eagles – Hotel California
19 – CCR – Proud Mary
20 – John Lennon – Woman
21 – Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers – You Got Lucky, Babe
22 – Murray Head – Say It Aint So
23 – Procol Harum – Wither Shade of Pale
24 – Moddy Blue – Night in White Satin
25 – The Rolling Stones – Angie
26 – Foreigner – Waiting for a Girl Like You
27 – Mamas And Papas – California Dreaming
28 – Al Stewart – On The Border
29 – Asia – Heat of The Moment
30 – John Denver – Country Road


Entered at Mon Jun 27 19:41:44 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Subject: Top Ten

1. Acadian Driftwood
2. The Weight
3. TNTDODD (TLW)
4. Ain't No More Cane
5. King Harvest
6. Unfaithful Servant
7. Rockin' Chair
8. Mystery Train (TLW)
9. Stage Fright (TLW)
10. The Well (TLW)


Entered at Mon Jun 27 19:13:09 CEST 2011 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Subject: Top 10 Band (No particular order)

1) The Rumour 2) Chest Fever 3) Rag Mama Rag 4) Stage Fright 5) When I Paint My Masterpiece 6) Mystery Train 7) We Can Talk 8) Cripple Creek 9) King Harvest 10) Whispering Pines 11) (Encore) Don't Do It. Will need some time to compile my Top 30 plus am considering a Top 10, in time for Canuckistani Day on Friday.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 19:05:37 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Band Favourite 10

1. TNTDODD, 2. The Weight, 3. It Makes No Difference, 4. Twilight, 5. Ophelia, 6. UOCC, 7. Rockn Chair, 8. The Shape I’m In, 9. Acadian Driftwood, 10. Christmas Must be Tonight.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 18:56:09 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Hmmm...some interesting selections already

As it happens Bri Sz, I wasn't consciously restricting it to Band composed songs but I guess I'd sort of implied it by my own list. Your post moves the goalposts a bit which i'm happy with and Don't do it and Blind Willie McTell certainly come into consideration for my own 10.

As for the top 30 - hmmm reading some of PV's terrific selections has given me a bit of a jolt. Just realised I've not got a solitary bob Dylan, Gene Clark, Beach Boys, S&G, Sly Stone, Otis, Aretha or Stevie W selection in my own. Also no Little feat. And PV's Baby You're a Rich man beatles selection which I'd entirely forgotten about has got me looking closely at my own Beatles too.

Not good. In fact very very bad.

:-0(

Could be back to drawing board pour moi. In fact this may well have to be extended to a top 40.

:-0)


Entered at Mon Jun 27 18:43:01 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

1. Tears of Rage

2. Caledonia Mission

3. The Weight

4. We Can Talk

5. Across the Great Divide

6. Whispering Pines

7. Unfaithful Servant

8. King Harvest

9. It Makes No Difference

10. Dixie


Entered at Mon Jun 27 18:14:46 CEST 2011 from (129.42.208.177)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley NY

Subject: Band Top 10

1. The Weight 2. When You Awake 3. Acadian Driftwood 4. Bessie Smith 5. It Makes No Difference 6. King Harvest 7. Whispering Pines 8. Get Up Jake 9. The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down 10.Daniel and The Sacred Harp


Entered at Mon Jun 27 17:35:38 CEST 2011 from (24.44.103.67)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: List

Band songs:

1. It Makes No Difference

2. King Harvest

3. Rockin Chair

4. Daniel and the Sacred Harp

5. Acadian Drifwood

6. The Weight

7. Stage Fright

8. The Rumor

9. Unfaithful Servant

10. Up on Cripple Creek

An addendum - Since the list looked to only songs written by the Band, I only included those. However - If I could replace 3 songs that were performed but not written I would have included Don't Do It, Atlantic City and Book Faded Brown.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 17:34:57 CEST 2011 from (99.250.10.113)

Posted by:

GregD

Bill M- thanks for the link to the interview with the late Jack Richardson; interesting that both Joe Miquelon and Doug Riley were involved with the sessions for Night Moves. It was also interesting for him to recall his sessions with Poco. I've been re-reading some of the sections of Randy Bachman's book with John Einarson as a refresher of the history there with Richardson and was reminded of the involvement of Troiano with Bachman's Axe album.

P.S. No I was not in Island!


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Top Ten

Great idea Al. Although my first attempt at the 10 finest Band songs came in as a list of 25....so I need to do some culling....maybe later tonight.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 17:24:59 CEST 2011 from (129.42.208.177)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley NY

Subject: Woodstock Mountain

David P, your bringing back some happy memories for me today. I remember seeing the Woodstock Mountain group the day after the NY Times had written a glowing feature on John Herald. They use to come down and play The Chance in Poughkeepsie. John Herald, Happy and Artie Traum, Eric Anderson, so much talent on one stage. Amazing music.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 16:59:01 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Listing ////\\\\////\\\\

Al, happy to contribute. Here's my list of favorite Band songs. Hope to get some time to work on the list of thirty.

Thanks.

1) Acadian Driftwood

2) The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down

3) King Harvest (Has Surely Come)

4) It Makes No Difference

5) The Weight

6) Unfaithful Servant

7) Rockin’ Chair

8) Up On Cripple Creek

9) Sleeping

10) Livin’ In a Dream


Entered at Mon Jun 27 16:48:39 CEST 2011 from (86.161.13.106)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Ten by the Band; the other thirty will have to wait!!

1. We Can Talk

2. Across the Great Divide

3. Tears of Rage

4. King Harvest

5. Sleeping

6. Look Out Cleveland

7. Time To Kill

8. All La Glory

9. Up On Cripple Creek

10. Life Is A Carnival



Entered at Mon Jun 27 16:20:14 CEST 2011 from (74.82.68.17)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: Andy Robinson

Having recently listened to the LP "Woodstock Mountains: More Music From Mud Acres" (Rounder), I recall that Andy Robinson appeared on one cut. He sang background vocals on John Herald's "Woodstock Mountains". This excellent record, recorded at Bearsville Studios in 1977, also features an allstar group of musicians including Happy + Artie Traum, Eric Andersen, John Sebastian, Paul Siebel, Bill Keith, Jim Rooney, Paul Butterfield, Pat Alger, Larry Packer, Rory Block, Roly Salley, Richard Bell, the aforementioned John Herald and others.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 15:47:49 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

You bugger, Al! I was just about to start doing accounts to hand over this week. Shit.

Does The Band include solo? I assume not.

The BAND:

1) King Harvest

2) The Weight

3) The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down

4) We Can Talk

5) Daniel & The Sacred Harp

6) It Makes No Difference

7) Up On Cripple Creek

8) Jupiter Hollow

9) The Shape I’m In

10) Rockin’ Chair

THIRTY … couldn’t begin to think, so I decided the only easy way was one per artist and do it really fast.

1) Visions of Johanna – Bob Dylan

2) Baby You’re A Rich Man – The Beatles

3) Private Number – William Bell & Judy Clay

4) A Whiter shade of Pale- Procul Harum

5) Waterloo Sunset – The Kinks

6) Madame George – Van Morrison

7) What’s Going On – Marvin Gaye

8) Surf’s Up- The Beach Boys

9) No Woman No Cry (live) – Bob Marley & The Wailers

10) C’mon Everybody – Eddie Cochran

11) Nadine – Chuck Berry

12) Let It Bleed – The Rolling Stones

13) Uncle John’s Band – The Grateful Dead

14) Walk Like A Man – The Four Seasons

15) Quicksilver Girl- Steve Miller Band

16) Let’s Go Baby (Where The Action Is) – Robert Parker

17) Born To Run – Bruce Springsteen

18) Respect – Otis Redding

19) Alexandra Leaving – Leonard Cohen

20) Fallin’ Rain – Link Wray

21) Cathy’s Clown – The Everly Brothers

22) The First Cut is The Deepest- P.P. Arnold

23) Time After Time- Cyndi Lauper

24) Rescue Me – Fontella Bass

25) New Orleans Ladies – Louisiana’s LeRoux

26) Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes - Paul Simon (possibly #1))

27) Dreams – Fleetwood Mac

28) Little Red Corvette- Prince

29) Willin’ – Little Feat

30) Mercy, Mercy – Don Covay

iTunes doesn’t lie. Most played on iTunes recently are:

1) Shaky – The Duke & The King

2) Union Street- The Duke & The King

3) Dazzling Blue – Paul Simon

4) When The Night Was Young – Robbie Robertson

4) The Rewrite – Paul Simon

5) June Hymn – The Decemberists

6) Angel of The Morning – Merilee Rush

7) Angel of The Morning – P.P. Arnold

8) In Your Father’s Eyes – The Webb Sisters

9) This Is Where I Get Off – Robbie Robertson

10) Calling this A Life – The Webb Sisters



Entered at Mon Jun 27 15:43:53 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: 10 Finest

Alan: here's my 10 finest (the 30 favourite will come later....the Women's World Cup is on TV after all):

The Weight

We Can Talk

When I Paint My Masterpiece

Sleeping

Life Is A Carnival

King Harvest

Across The Great Divide

When You Awake

The Rumor

The Weight (with the Staples)


Entered at Mon Jun 27 14:28:24 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Pain in the butt time [again]

Right, so I guess it’s time for more lists

:-0)

You think I’m joking?

Obviously I’ll do the scoring again – unless there’s another daft fecker willing to squander his precious leisure time

The first list is for what each GBer considers to be THE 10 FINEST Band songs. Not your personal favourites but what objectively you regard as The Band’s 10 FINEST moments on record. Personally I think this one will prove to be reasonably straightforward – or at least 5 0f the 10 at any rate. We shall see.

The second list requests the FAVOURITE [not finest for obvious reasons] 30 NON BAND songs of each GBer. I don’t mind if it has a dozen songs by the same artist. My own overriding criterion was - can I listen to the song on a repeat loop over and over? - but then of course each of us has our own criteria for what constitutes a favourite.

Clearly the choice is so wide ranging it is an impossible task to get it "right" or to bring to mind every favourite past and present. It is inevitable we will each see songs cropping up in other’s lists which we have simply forgotten and wish to adjust our own lists accordingly. As long as there’s not an inordinate amount of adjusting I don’t see a problem with that. The fact is the overall scoring is going to be a nightmare in any case but for me it will be worth it to see the shared delights and passions.

Also it’s a fluid and moving target – as I’ve just found out myself with that new Buddy Holly tribute release which includes one of the most sensational covers I’ve ever heard – namely Peggy Sue Got Married - by an artist I’d never even heard of singing a song I’d hitherto never really taken that strongly to.

But hey that’s music isn’t it? I guess ultimately it’s why we all come on forums like this because it’s a particular passion of each and every one of us that forms a pretty pivotal part of our lives.

Incidentally, the list is pitched at 30 because I personally found it impossible to get it to less and even then I was struggling badly with what I was leaving out. I have to say I was surprised at what a soppy sentimental sap my own list actually shows me to be. But fuck it.

Anyroad, so mister feckin nosey parker here would be delighted and honoured to know what drives the musical emotion motors of each and every GBer and whilst the album selections sort of achieved that goal I think individual song choices are kind of a bit more insightful and revealing.

BTW – if you just want to tell me to go and fuck myself then I won’t be remotely offended. Even SM!!! I’ll understand. But hey it’s just a bit of fun. And there’s no rush. I’ll look in to log each choice.

Anyroad, here’s my own lists:

THE BAND TOP 10 FINEST

1] King Harvest

2] We Can Talk

3] The Night they drove old Dixie down

4] It Makes no Difference

5] Unfaithful Servant

6] The Weight

7] Whispering Pines

8] Rag Mama Rag

9] Caledonia Mission

10]Rockin Chair

GENERAL – Top 30

1] The Promise - Bruce Springsteen [18 Tracks – solo piano version]

2] Waterloo Sunset - Kinks

3] Madame George – Van Morrison

4] Viva las Vegas – Shawn Colvin

5] Homburg – Procul Harum

6] All the Labor – The Gourds

7] Keep on Chooglin’ - Creedence

8] Shinin’ Brightly – Bob Seger

9] Johnsburg Illinois – Tom Waits

10] Here Comes the Night - Them

11] Peggy Sue Got Married – John Doe

12] Fly Like a Bird – Boz Scaggs

13] 'Core 'N Grato' - Dominic Chianese

14] Life and How to Live it - REM

15] O mio babbino caro - Maria Callas

16] I Know [I’m Losing You] - Temptations

17] Stolen Car – Bruce Springsteen

18] Comedy - Shack

19] Hey Jude - Beatles

20] The Ship Song – Nick Cave

21] Tumbling Dice – Stones

22] Rockin Robin – Jackson 5

23] When you were Sweet Sixteen – the Fureys

24] Gimme Shelter - Stones

25] If I Fell - Beatles

26] Soldiers Things – Tom Waits

27] Reflections of My Life - Maramalade

28] Day After Day - Badfinger

29] There She Goes – The Las

30] Johnny Appleseed – Joe Strummer


Entered at Mon Jun 27 11:31:38 CEST 2011 from (86.161.13.106)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Web: My link

Subject: Arthur Mullard

And the classic appearance on Hancock as the copper with the big hat...John Le Mesurier as judge too, Hugh Lloyd...who could wish for more?


Entered at Mon Jun 27 11:18:43 CEST 2011 from (41.97.184.71)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Two Languages - Ladino

The Spanish spoken by Oran Jews, is called Ladino

see show more in the link above to know about Ladino, very nice song


Entered at Mon Jun 27 11:14:18 CEST 2011 from (41.97.184.71)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Two Languages - Jaico

in mute mode [sorry Peter V for the sharp youtube harmonic transition of tunes from different worlds, but it took me a time to prepare these two posts]

The Spanish spoken (dialect ?) in Oran is called JAICO

it is said that during his short setlement in Oran, Albert Camus learned talking Jaico

in the link above a song in Jaico


Entered at Mon Jun 27 10:54:28 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Arthur Mullard & Hylda Baker

There's another one, Roger. A link to Arthur Mullard's greatest hit, 'You're The One That I Want' with Hylda Baker. For those who've never heard of Arthur, follow the link for the Youtube cover version of the Travolta / Newton-John record. They don't make cover versions like that anymore.

I wearily picked up a T-shirt this morning and realized after I'd put it on that it was a Paul Simon one, and I'm going tonight. Should I change first? I've never worn a fan T-shirt to a show before.

Glastonbury … Paul said he wasn't pleased and he'd been unwell for a couple of days. We only got about 30 minutes in the 90 minute programme and as predicted far too much of presenters talking about themselves.I was surprised that with all the interviews on how he was going to do stuff he hasn't played for years that we got Diamonds on The Soles Of Her Shoes, You Can Call Me Al, Gumboots, Boy in The Bubble, 50 Ways To Leave Your lover, and Kodachrome / Gone At Last. It was a bit predictable, but the band is as ever sublime and he was in good voice.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 09:51:44 CEST 2011 from (92.40.198.216)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: UK

References I never expected to see in this Guestbook - the mention of Arthur Mullard. thanks Rob. Everything comes around. Years ago we had a report of a meeting at a garage sale between a guest booker (who?) and the writer of the Cascades hit "Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain" - one of my old favourites.

We're seeing Paul Simon in Birmingham on Thursday. The Guardian review of his Glastonbury set was not generous - but I imagine that says more about the time, the place and the audience than Paul Simon.


Entered at Mon Jun 27 00:42:38 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Web: My link

Subject: PV "When the Eagle Flies"

Peter, I agree - why they can't just slap an illuminated box-section sign over it beats me - but was saying that how appropriate it happened to a fast food chain with ideas of world domination very much like the NSDAP.

There is a block of flats in Berchtesgaden that still has the whole cast eagle, albeit with the Swastika removed and a street number "roundel" instead. Given that the spread eagle was a part of German identity long before the Nazis and still is long after, that seems a dignified and appropriate response. The "ghostly" remains on the BK building do seem more chilling as a reminder of the whole identity. With the swastika wilfully supplanted in the Berchtesgaden flats, the decent thing is done.

As a kid, I was a keen ornithologist and still do take the opportunity when overseas to take any recommended local rambles that will provide sightings of bird life that we do not see in the UK. I was never happy about the badge that out very own RSPB used to give to junior "Young Ornithologists' Club" members though! (See link)


Entered at Mon Jun 27 00:21:28 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Rob, I think BK could have tried harder, like replace the eagle area with new stones. The Pergamon Museum in Berlin was in the East, and the Russians insisted they didn't repair the myriad bullet holes in the walls. They wanted them left as a monument. They also kept the Hitler bunker area as foul barren wasteland. Now the holes have been repaired, and an apartment block built over the bunker. I think the Russians were right. We have to remember this stuff to stop it ever happening again.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 22:51:55 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Web: My link

Subject: Swastikas

I didn't mention the Burger King in Nuremberg in my recent travelogues, did I? (See link) It's opposite the old rally grounds (nearly) and they've had a devil of a job getting the old Reich livery off the end of the building. The eagle's proud wings are etched into the blockwork for good.

But then again, does a huge corporate all-conquering chain like BK really need to change it, or is it strangely appropriate? Ha ha ha!


Entered at Sun Jun 26 21:13:23 CEST 2011 from (79.202.178.65)

Posted by:

Norbert

All, you got it babe. Indeed every combination will set one free. Be careful when sex and the chainsaw come together though.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 19:48:47 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Andy Robinson

Very sorry to hear the news. We corresponded in the early days of the GB, and Andy was someone who had a wealth of Band stories. Andy was part of the 'street choir' on Van's "His Band & Street Choir" as well as appearing on Rick Danko-related material. RIP.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 18:48:21 CEST 2011 from (41.97.248.78)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Peter V

Peter V : the cumulative sum of worthy things i have learned from you over the years, not music only, gives me a bad feeling of being indebted

the good feeling is that henceforth i wont be worried nor shocked at the sight of a swastika, or just a little bit.

back to my subject, though I developped a deep interest for Colonial Studies, I am far from being an expert. Of course the Spanish sense of humour, for those who make the effort to feel it, can explain many intriguing facts.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 16:59:06 CEST 2011 from (99.247.223.210)

Posted by:

biffalo bull

Subject: something from de bull

picked up Beverly Barton's paperback novel "Don't Cry", it was lying around in lounge somewhere, and i needed something to read, not a bad story in the mystery/suspense pulp fiction genre. takes place in the Chattanooga Tn. area of the USA. One of the main supporting characters is a police seargent, and much to my initial surprise and delight, as thought where have i seen this name before, none other then our beloved Garth Hudson. ah the mysteries of life


Entered at Sun Jun 26 16:28:06 CEST 2011 from (74.82.64.33)

Posted by:

Tim

Location: Boston

Subject: Andy Robinson

Saw on Rick Danko facebook page that he passes recently. Sorry to hear.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 14:16:08 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Norb

Tried a few but got them the wrong way round.

Had sex with a tree and chainsawed the neighbour. Still it's all grist to the mill I guess.

:-0)


Entered at Sun Jun 26 14:13:49 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Norbert

:-0)

Love it.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 14:06:50 CEST 2011 from (91.42.230.138)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: p.s.

Be well advised today by a walk in the park, visit a Beatle museum, chainsaw a tree, have sex with your fav. neighbor, bully your dog, or just relax in the green grass, do whatever you want but don’t think, set the mind at ease please. Believe me it helps, see you all outside, thanks


Entered at Sun Jun 26 14:02:17 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: A Yen for the Fab Four

Ha ha

:-0)


Entered at Sun Jun 26 13:55:06 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Miss elaneus

BOB W: thanks for the Bruce links Bob. There sure is a mine of treasures in there. I estimate I should be able to get through it by Christmas 2019. :-0)

Ironically enough with all the merited eulogies for Clarence the member of E Street who sticks out on the one you highlighted and so many of the others is the professor. His precision tinkling is pivotal to so many major songs.

BILL M. I was a late comer to the amazing mister Seger. The double live album Nine Tonight in '81 was my baptism and I just devoured every track. Absolutely loved it to bits. So much so that when I came to backtrack to the Live Bullet album it has never come near to emulating Nine Tonight for me in spite of it being acclaimed by all and sundry as his finest ever moment.

Same goes for his earlier studio albums. Don't get me wrong I do really like his earlier stuff and nobody does a nuts and bolts rocker like Bob. Nobody - well maybe John Fogerty :-0) - but it's from Beautiful Loser onwards that he really appeals to my sensibilites. I also love the way he's gone on to develop the use the girl backing singers to add to the overall sound. Probably better than anyone else i've ever heard. Love it when they're chiming in.

My own ultimate Bob track amongst a host of amazing ones is Shinin' Brightly. For me it hits every spot I'd ever want from one track. Desert island material.

DUNC. I love your Caledonian loyalties in your album selections. Too feckin right. I actually think you could throw a few more in to the fray - Teenage Fanclub's "Songs from Northern britain" and "Grand prix" were not that far off my top 20. And what about Roddy Frame and Deacon Blue? Truly great pop music all of it.:-0)


Entered at Sun Jun 26 13:45:45 CEST 2011 from (79.202.181.94)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: WWW Information Overload Dangers

Before reading this post I want to point you all at the serious danger of www information overload my dear Band fans.

Lars, let the next war be an arm wrestling contest by those who are in charge, may the best one win .

Our beloved www can cause severe cases of information overload. This once more can lead to ADHD and other health problems (read The Switch by Nicholas Carr, YouTube, Jos de Mul).

Anyway today I want to point us at the fact that Heinrich Göbel (another German of course) did invent incandescent light bulb and not Sir Thomas Edison. To remain within the framework above, I want to leave it by this for today.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 13:30:27 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Al: It's a fact... the Japanese do have a yen for the Fab Four. : )


Entered at Sun Jun 26 13:00:00 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

From Barbara O'Brien....

"Rest in peace, Andy Robinson - former sound engineer and tour manager for The Band."

I recall Andy posting here several times over the years. Sorry to hear the news.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 13:00:02 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: This japanese swastika business

Fred, there's lots of Japanese tourists in Liverpool

Got to say I'm yet to see one with a swastika tattoo on their temple

But as it happens I'm going down the Beatles Museum later where they all tend to gather. So I'll report back if I do see one.

:-0)


Entered at Sun Jun 26 12:34:32 CEST 2011 from (59.101.14.222)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Down in Hollywood

The Code was introduced in the 1930s, so a lot of creativity went into discussing things ... 1920s though


Entered at Sun Jun 26 11:21:41 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

On Japanese maps, swatiskas denote temples.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 10:54:16 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

It is funny that a "get well" symbol was used on cigarette paper packs. The tobacco companies were advertising the "healthful benefits" well into the 1950s. I'd bet they intended as a "healthy" symbol.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 10:49:22 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

swastikas were used 3000 years before the Nazis, though I believe the Nazi version is a mirror image of the ancient symbol. The word is Sankskrit. The old Royal Victoria hospital in Bournemouth which lasted from the 1880s to the mid 1980s had swastikas at regular intervals on the marble floors, installed circa 1880. By the 1950s patients were getting angry about it, but the cost of replacing every marble corridor (when the building was earmarked for demolition anyway) was prohibitive. It was allegedly used often in hospitals as a "good luck / get well" symbol before it got appropriated.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 09:55:18 CEST 2011 from (41.97.176.250)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

missing in the previous link, between wars timeline in the link above :

1932 - "The Juan Bastos tobacco stores decorate their cigarette paper books with dozens of swastikas without commenting to say if it serves as a political statement or a targeted advertisement. "



Entered at Sun Jun 26 09:49:26 CEST 2011 from (41.97.176.250)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

in the link above, rich document in French language glorifying Bastos, immigrant from Malga, Spain, who built in Oran since the beginning of the 19th centurythe today tobacco empire

"If one lists the Top 50 famous names of Oran, one would certainly find the first place ex-aequo Bastos and Galiana [question by poster: who's this guy ?] long before Albert Camus or Yves Saint Laurent


Entered at Sun Jun 26 04:49:04 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: My evening/PV & Brien again

Back from a gig; an open air party; some classic rock and soul covers with a few mates. Got the old Hammond A100 back from a long overdue refurb. First gig with it in about three years. Had a wonderful time; every little burble or nuance hitting the open air and shimmering. Had such a wonderful time in fact that I fucked the intro to the Grease Band's arrangement of "With A Little Help From My Friends" right up royally!! There is nothing like the real thing!!!

Peter, those moderators would be chucked out under the UK system now for insinuating that Brien's academic and grammatical qualities are lacking; how remiss of us also to remember that there is no 98 or 100% as scores are competitive and give a sense of failure that can give the candidate a negative feeling.

For a gender awareness test, I would recommend the Unthank sisters, Eliza Carthy and Nigella Lawson clog dancing and having a handbag fight.


Entered at Sun Jun 26 02:47:27 CEST 2011 from (24.44.103.67)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Academic schmackademic. By the way - take the 20's - there was a sneakier edge to partying as it was prohibition. It was probably more fun to be in the know. In 1939, war talk, Nazi's, and the rumor of atrocities on Jews (I say rumors because in 39 in the US, I don't think it was well known as to what was happening, though Hollywood having a heavy Jewish influence, I'm sure they were more in tune towards such things) - all that talk would have come up at parties and just been a real downer. 20's win!


Entered at Sun Jun 26 01:23:49 CEST 2011 from (86.27.154.44)

Posted by:

Lizzie

Web: My link

Subject: Shangri-La for sale

Any takers? The web page includes a glimpse inside.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 23:25:14 CEST 2011 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

LARS: Garth with Dubya and Jeb? Gag me with a spoon!


Entered at Sat Jun 25 22:39:40 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: the western hemisphere

Subject: Mid-summer's eve celebration tonight over in the eastern hemisphere

To all of you Scandanavians celebrating the mid summer's eve tonight, go easy on the aquavit...that stuff can burn a hole through your gut.

Norbert- I have a nose that used to be longer, but it was broken at least twice, so it's shorter and crooked now. My feet were bigger in my youth. Maybe that gang of stonemasons got punched in the nose too often and it affected their art. And maybe their feet got shorter from running away from wars. That's what happened to me.

As for The Band, the word is out that Garth is sitting in with the Bush Brothers in August. There's talk of covering "Acadian Driftwood."


Entered at Sat Jun 25 21:30:55 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Rob, I took it to the test score moderation panel. Always a mistake. They reduced Brien's score to 98% on the grounds that "I could do Scarlett O'Hara" was not in line with academic protocol. They suggested "I find Scarlett O'Hara an appealing person" instead. And I've got shoved onto a "gender awareness course" for mentioning it.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 21:26:11 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Paul Simon

Peter:Will not spoil the show for you by saying too much, but you'll really enjoy a multi instrumentalist band with great playing and Paul singing well. As a lighting man, I think you'll appreciate the lighting and backdrops which enhance the show. Brilliant evening.

Bob W:Thanks. Was on the east coast today in between St Andrews and Carnoustie. Beautiful.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 18:19:41 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: PV/Brien

In line with the Monty Python townswomens' guild doing a mud-bath version of Pearl Harbour, my vote goes for the Unthank sisters, Eliza Carthy and Nigella Lawson recreating the Civil War with clog dancing and a handbag fight. With the passing of Arthur Mullard, Mad Frankie Fraser will have to serve as compere.

You'll have to give Brien 100%. Nowhere did you say he could use extra sheets if he felt it necessary.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 18:05:10 CEST 2011 from (79.202.182.220)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Band related noses

Lars, I didn’t know you where from the famous medieval Danish stonemason tribe. This Danish stonemason gang, like all other sculpture groups had their own style. They made beautiful sculptures but the sculpture all had long noses and short feet, this was their handwriting. It’s indeed true that one day in the 12th cent. they abandoned Denmark and moved south, leaving a trail of long nose short feet sculpturees along the way. If you follow that trail (which still can be done nowadays) you'll end up in Naumberg. What happened there is lost over the years, but something must have happened there. In the 13th cent. they move up north again, all the way back to Denmark. But this time leaving a trail of short nose, long feet sculpture. There have been numerous speculations of why the Danish sculptures changed in Naumberg from the long nose to the short nose and also the radical feed change, but all they can do is guess. maybe the answer is within you, hidden in your genes. Anyway could you give me please your shoe size and the length of your nose? (If the myth is correct you should have long feet and a short nose).

But let’s go back to the music, after all this is The Band period!

All I want a list!


Entered at Sat Jun 25 14:35:37 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Paul at Glastonbury (cont)

Oh, sorry. My crystal ball tells me Candice will continue:

… who used to sing with … er … Mart …um … Carbunkle, in Simon & Carbunkle. Their stonking great hit song was Bridge Over Bubbling Water and it was my grandma’s favourite … yes, you can see Paul now (CUT TO: Paul Simon “… beneath a star of dazzling blue …” BACK TO CANDICE) And I can see he’s singing a song from his great new fantastic album, So Beautiful and So Hot. Cheeky! Pauly. That’s what people say about me … my grandma had all his records, from before, when he was in The Beatles too. That one's a bit slow, but remember we have the fabulous Beyoncé coming up for you later …


Entered at Sat Jun 25 14:28:10 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Paul Simon's Glastonbury show is allegedly on TV live on Sunday at 17.30 BST, BBC 2. I don't know whether you can stream that outside the UK. It says with 'highlights of the day' which means they'll cut away half way through Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes to something else. They'll also switch halfway through Hearts and Bones to a breathless presenter saying 'Isn't it great to be here at Glastonbury, with me, Candice Heppelthwaite, watching the fantastic fabulous wonderful Paul Simon … Boogie on Paul! Paul is an American songwriter …'

I notice the TV guide for Coldplay's set has a large picture of two presenters and says (I don't recall the actual names) BERT SMITH AND BILL JONES present Coldplay at Glastonbury. This is how it is. Inane presenters shoving their faces into the camera and chattering mindlessly through the music.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 14:18:43 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Thank you, Dunc.

Looking forward to hearing about the Paul Simon show. Hoping you had a wonderful evening of music.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 11:37:32 CEST 2011 from (41.97.240.82)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

the Band connection is at [6:38-6:53] in the link above


Entered at Sat Jun 25 11:35:19 CEST 2011 from (41.97.240.82)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Landmark: funny – Pontius Pilate and Biggus Dikkus in choir "the Touth thall wise again !"

*************

Not a movie suggestion – Les Folles Années du Twist (1986) (the crazy years of twist) dir Mahmoud Zemmouri [linked above]

Synopsis : the little people of a village near Oran goes through the tragic war of liberation. major events were :
Mustafa, waiting for the Twist song contest, hides his love for the daughter of a leader of the Front de Liberation Nationale (FLN). Senor Gomez has serious clashes with oranges thieves, a collaborator vaunts night and day the merits of President De Gaule, the commander of the Parachutists Legion, nicknamed "Cmdt John Wayne", has to orchestrate public order between rich farmers lobby, oranges thieves, freedom fighters, hashish dealers, clandestine torturers, verbose collaborators, and Chubby Checker's fans

honest movie, not to be suggested to who has no idea of what colonialism in Africa really was

footnote : the allusion in the film of the practice of cutting the nose of smokers – It was the punishment inflicted by the FLN militants for those who don't observe the call to boycott Bastos tobaccos. Bastos was one of the symbols of Colonial oppression


Entered at Sat Jun 25 10:11:59 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Your test results.

Brien gets 99%. 1% deducted for not answering on separate sheets of paper.

On Scarlett O'Hara, as portrayed in fiction, you're correct. 100%. But add movie interpretation (not in the question). I would vote for Vivien Leigh over Demi Moore, the most recent incarnation of Hester Prynne. BUT the first Hester Prynne was Lilian Gish, and as we're in time machine territory anyway, she might edge it.

Question 5: Was Hollywood in the 1920s more debauched than in 1939? Which would you prefer to have lived in and why / why not.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 02:14:56 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: the other side

Subject: Speculation

Peter- Don't take this the wrong way, but Robert E. Lee wouldn't sit down at the table. He would probably just look over at Walter Taylor, a silent question in his eyes.

Imagine Jefferson Davis guarding Abraham Lincoln in a game of on-on -one basketball. Lincoln works his way down low and crosses the key with a sky hook while Davis gets position for a rebound. There is none ("swish").

I wonder what Garth did with his old hat, I used to like that on him. Garth still shows up at a gig wearing all black. The same with Rando. I guess black is the color of The Band. I think Garth still has a lot of great things to do.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 01:32:36 CEST 2011 from (24.44.103.67)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

American Studies - Q1. Civil War: Destroyed lives and families to the horror of a nation - GWTW romaniticized it. Q2. Rich shits can two time in any era. Q3. Robert E. Lee speaking - Frankly dear sir, I don't give a damn about your women problems. Q4. I'd do Scarlett.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 01:18:12 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: PV/Jeff (Americana)

I don't like the term "Americana" either when it is used to refer to music/art that originates on the native side of the Atlantic. I'll happily use it freely when discussing my OWN music, being an Englishman, in England playing music with a distinctly American flavour effected therein. I think I dislike "Alt-Country" more than Americana, though - German Oompah music is an alternative to country, as is a baroque Harpsichord suite, a band playing heavy metal or a ska/bluebeat act. I can see the appeal of Americana used instead to describe generally a rootsy blend of rock and roll with predominantly white American traditions rather than the negro influences of rhythm & blues.


Entered at Sat Jun 25 00:21:11 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: American Studies 101

Answer these questions. Begin each answer on a separate sheet of paper. Number the pages.

Q1: Compare the cultural influences of The Civil War and of Gone with The Wind.

Q2: In what ways do the works of Margaret Mitchell influence the TV series ‘Dallas.’

Q3: Imagine a conversation over dinner between Robert E. Lee and Rhett Butler.

Q4: Compare the sexuality of American literary heroines from The Scarlet Letter to Scarlett O’Hara.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 23:23:33 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Georgia History

While this year marks the 150th anniversary of the Civil War, next Thursday (June 30th) is the 75th anniversary of the publication of "Gone With The Wind". Margaret Mitchell's novel sold over a million copies during the first six months, an especially amazing feat during the Great Depression and still sells 250,000 copies a year worldwide. I have to admit that I never cared that much for the book or the movie, but I haven't endured either of the epic length versions since my youth.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 22:35:57 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Fwankwy Deb, I don't give a dam.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 22:30:24 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The south's gonna rise again

Out of curiosity, I just googled the phrase. There is even a Facebook page dedicated to the subject. Some of the comments there very soon show the feelings below that Mason - Dixon line of many people.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 22:24:29 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The South!

The South's gonna rise again, has been around longer than the Band, and most of us. It has never gone away. Charlie Daniel's, "The South's Gonna do it Again".

In Hank Williams Jr.'s song lyrics, many references to that, in a lot of his songs, EG. "We're all gonna brag on that rebel flag". Hell I could give many references to that position. Don't ever kid yerselves.........y'all. There are still many of 'em will NEVER see it any other way.

Even if you don't want to call'em KKK, there are many "White Sepremacisits" who subscribe to the same ideas, even if they are not from the south. On a tree on the road to Egmont on the Sechelt Peninsula is a sign "KKK LIVES"


Entered at Fri Jun 24 21:58:25 CEST 2011 from (216.226.180.2)

Posted by:

Deb

Landmark, we'd be more likely to "Welease Wett Butler."


Entered at Fri Jun 24 21:36:18 CEST 2011 from (173.178.214.140)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Then again, while "Life Of Brian" has been referenced here several times before, I never thought I would see it tied in with references to the mighty Motherlode. Let the south rise, so long as they "Welease Wogah!"


Entered at Fri Jun 24 21:08:48 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Pat B / David P: Kinda cute it comes with a wink, like that of an octegenarian skirt-chaser making as if he's going through the motions. Not at all cute if it's the verbal equivalent of a confederate flag on a rusty pick-up or clapped-out van; those I find chilling - and sadly, I do occasionally see them.

Al E: You clearly have a greater fondness for Bob Seger's post-'75 work than I, but we certainly agree on "Night Moves". My faves are earlier though: "2+2=?", "Noah", "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man", "Katmandu", "Get Out Of Denver".

GregD: Hey, it just occurred to me that Truck member Joe Miquelon who's playing guitar on Seger's "Night Moves". And it was Jack Richardson producing - as discussed starting at 8:25 in the clip at the link.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 20:53:28 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bonk: Yup. Sent a reply minutes after my previous post here, which mentioned the same Denny, as I'm sure you guessed.

Pat B: What made the mass exodus from San Francisco (I think it was) so different was that it was done en masse, totally lawfully, and as a result of talks with the part-'Creole' governor of the newly formalised colony of Victoria, James Douglas, who wanted to boost Victoria's population to keep expansionist Americans at bay (a recurring theme in Canuckistani history). I have a niggling sense that Governor Douglas was the great-grandfather of Margaret Trudeau.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 20:37:20 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: From Civil War to Civil Rights

Southern politicians rose in anger again following the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. A century after the Civil War and Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, these federal actions implemented specific remedies to finally end segregation policies in the Southern states. No doubt, some Southerners of that generation did utter "the South will rise again" invectively, resurrecting the anger of rebellion from the previous century.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 20:23:59 CEST 2011 from (96.54.32.212)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: BillM

Hey Bill. Are you getting my e-mails?


Entered at Fri Jun 24 20:01:15 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, because of the Fugitive Slave Law--and the states rights crowd's disgust with other states proclaiming different rights--Canada was the final stop on the Underground Railroad. Even free blacks were being dragged back to slavery as slave catchers roamed the North with impunity, until a number of Northern communities tarred and feathered some of the fellows.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 19:34:54 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Pat B: Here's a link to a book that, among other things, covers an episode I was thinking of mentioning to Bonk in the context of our brief discussion of whether Jellyroll Morton would have travelled to Saltspring Island while he was based in Vancouver circa 1920. I thought it might be of interest to you because said episode was the mass migration of 600 African Americans from California to BC in 1860 in anticipation of California ditching its non-slavery status.

GregD: Thanks for the link. (Were you in Island with Denny?) If the Sound Spectrum evolved into Truck it was a rather circuitous route that led through the Montreal-based George Olliver and Natural Gas (with Graham Lear, Carl Watral, Dave Classic and Dave Tamblyn from London Ont.) and then the final version of Motherlode.

Ironically, one of the members of Truck (on their one LP at least) was from Norfolk Virginia, as was William 'Smitty' Smith, leader of Motherlode and then sessionman extraordinaire. And as was, I learned from the obits, Clarence Clemons - which might explain why Springsteen chose to resuscitate the career of Gary US Bonds - also from guess where (and where is JTF anyway?)

Adam2: I think you're absolutely correct in interpreting Robbie's line in the way you did. Just a suitably modest way of saying that he was made uncomfortable by the Judean People's Front putting out the idea that he was more that just Brian. As for Robertson and Americana, "Mystery Train" alone gives a good sense of the thinking on the subject. And Robbie didn't write it.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 19:16:34 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

David P. perhaps it was just me being a Yankee, but I've been in situations where the phrase took on considerably more darkness than a wink and a nod.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 19:13:23 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

RR also said the old guys thinking that the South will rise again was touching. His references to the phrase haven't really changed in regards to anything else.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 19:06:51 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Rising

As someone who has lived in the South almost all my life, I would point out that, for the most part, those use the expression "the South will rise again" are not really serious. I would imagine that Levon's father uttered the words with a wink, like many older Southern gentlemen I witnessed doing the same. It's mostly said in the presence of Yankees and other non-Southerners kiddingly, just, as another expression says, to get a rise out of it.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 18:55:37 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Paul Simon

Enjoy it, Dunc. I'm seeing him on Monday.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 18:45:22 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

On “the South will rise again” statement…….this is nothing more than Robbie being polite and not wanting to portray Levon’s Dad in a light that some interviewers might interpret unfavourably….He has not forgotten who said this to him but it makes no difference to the story by repeating Mr. Helm’s name over and over again…….He is not shy at all in mentioning Levon’s name in the proper context of music and the Band over and over and over again in the hundreds of interviews he has conducted for HTBC. Below Robbie from Crawdaddy……has any musician ever described his band and bandmates in a more accurate and dignified way:

”I would want the Band to be remembered as a real band. There was just a wonderful balance in this group, the way the whole thing worked. What Garth [Hudson] did was completely unique. Nobody else in the world was able to do anything near what Garth would do in the group. Rick, his singing and his playing'god only made one of those, and he broke the mold after that. Richard Manuel could make you cry in a second with his singing, and he was also just an amazing, beautiful soul, too. And Levon is one of the most talented people I've ever crossed paths with in my life. Levon taught me so much and is the closest thing I've ever had in my life to a brother. So anyway, I just have such warm, fond memories of the Band, and I would just want that to be passed on.”

Todd: With you completely on “She’s Not Mine” and “Won’t be Back”……….and I am listening and enjoying the whole disc as much now as those first few weeks of April…..

Dlew: Good one. Katmandu it should be! What a song…


Entered at Fri Jun 24 18:38:38 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: J.D. Souther Rises Again

RtO: Speaking of J.D. Souther -- He's just released an excellent new album entitled "Natural History". It features new versions of songs he's written over the years, originally performed by himself and others, including Linda Ronstadt and the Eagles. From the latter there's "The Sad Cafe", "New Kid in Town" and "Best of My Love", which he co-wrote with members of the Eagles. The songs are new stripped-down, mostly acoustic, interpretations, and the sparse arrangements really highlight Mr. Souther's great lyrics and wonderful voice.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 18:33:47 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUpFriend0

Web: My link

Subject: Jack Casady on Hot Tuna &Tuna's new recording

He did not once refer to himself or Jorma as the prophet of psychedelia.....


Entered at Fri Jun 24 18:24:05 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc(an)

Location: scotland

Subject: Joe J

Great link Joe. I'm going to see Paul in two hours fifteen minutes... Hello Glasgow...and it's my third time and his third visit in about 13 years. I'm excited and for obvious reasons, in addition to it being a great song, I want him to play 'Duncan'. How childish of me?

Bob W:really enjoyed your post. I was up to my neck in nappies and skint when Bruce broke here and feel he has passed me by. I play his greatest hits. But your post conveys so beautifully why I have that tingle of excitement here waiting for a show.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 18:20:14 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

One early time Robbie mentioned “The South Will Rise Again” (which he has mentioned as often as “They booed us everywhere we went”) I dimly recall that he did refer to Levon’s dad. Certainly to Turkey Scratch. Later it was more general and vaguer.

He said it was chilling, which means that eventually the negative side dominated the phrase in his mind, though maybe not originally.

Does it mean “Eventually the dominance of Southern Democrat chairmen on house appropriations committees due to seniority, coupled with an electric grid that means industry no longer has to be near coalfields, will lead to an economic revival of the New South.’

Or is it a KKK slogan? I have to say that I saw belt buckles and T-shirts with it on, and the wearers weren’t wearing white suits and courteously proferring mint juleps. They looked like extras from “Deliverance.”


Entered at Fri Jun 24 18:18:16 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Cotton Pickin In Florida

July 1st, Key west,Paul Cotton, formerly of Poco & The Illinois Speed press, performing 7:30 to 9:30 PM. Can be googled and found if anyone down there is reading this and of a mind to go. Something called the Indepndence Festival....


Entered at Fri Jun 24 18:02:37 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

Btw, in describing the last great Federal artillery assault of the war, James Longstreet referred to it as "Heavy Metal."


Entered at Fri Jun 24 17:55:01 CEST 2011 from (216.226.180.2)

Posted by:

Deb

Robbie may not be its prophet, but at least we know now who is the Arbiter of Americana.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 17:51:47 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

Todd, neither PTSD nor impotency/inability to procreate are the result of wounded pride. Besides what I mentioned, the South was riven by some deep psychological distress, including survivor's guilt and Loser's Syndrome (the deep pain of losing a war). The concept that the South Will Rise Again was concurrent with the rise of the Lost Cause mentality as a way to make sense of the senseless.

Another interesting point. The Southerners were sure that God was on their side. They argued that their society was a purer Christian society than the North. They argued that the Bible encouraged slavery and that they were providing a charitable function by enslaving Africans and teaching them to be docile. Even their generals pointed to battlefield success as guided by God's hand. It was very hard for them to realize in their own terms that God had forsaken them and their cause.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 17:40:43 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

Brien, no other states' right came close to starting a war than slavery, mostly because it was an economic system that certain states adhered to. The Republican Party was founded to stop slavery from spreading--it made no attempt to break up slavery where it existed. The South needed an expansionist view of slavery to stay "equal" in the House and the Senate, so the republicans represented a threat from that angle. But the South fought desperately against a state's right to declare slavery illegal and free any slave that crossed its border, which shows you exactly how far a state's rights really flew in the slavery crowd.

I think it's important to realize that Southerners' parents and grandparents were around during the Revolution and the Confederation, when states were entities before there was a United States. Even though Lee took an oath to protect the United States, he felt when it came down to it his duty was to Virginia. Remember too that not every member of his extended family made that same choice.

Another point. The majority of Confederate soldiers did not fight to preserve slavery and generally took the course that they were fighting Yankees because the Yankees invaded their soil. But wars are rarely fought for the reasons soldiers fight them. Politicians who ran the Southern states that seceded made no bones that the states seceded and the war was fought to protect slavery. Apostles of Secession is a great book to read on the subject.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 17:15:09 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Subject: The South Will Rise Again

I would imagine that in the aftermath of the war, the economy of the South was devastated. Ideological issues notwithstanding, when someone has a family to feed and shelter, the immediate need becomes one of survival. The wounded pride is an additional component.

I don’t doubt that it was a generic slogan that had been around for quite a while. I think the point that’s significant is that it was still ingrained in the culture some 100 years after the Civil War in the mid 1960’s, and that’s what had the effect on Robbie. Also that Robbie’s recounting of the moment seems to have changed over the years. I suppose it’s possible that a random stranger on the street on one of Robbie’s early visits to the South could have said that to him, but his original telling of the tale makes it sound like “someone” who would have been closer to him and that he knew on a more personal level. Someone who would call him Robbie and perhaps confide in him some sort of personally held conviction. There may or may not be a slight there, but I’m just going on the way I heard it told the first time. Perhaps my memory isn’t as good as Robbie’s.

So I think the point isn’t so much that the sentiment predates Diamond Helm. Just that the details have changed over the years. But I understand marketing and branding, and that Robbie is trying to solidify his legacy at the moment….not someone else’s. That’s fine as long as the comments are viewed in perspective. I still enjoy a good chunk of the new album, and just listened again yesterday to ‘She’s Not Mine’ and ‘Won’t Be Back’, which are emerging as my two favorite tracks.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 17:02:54 CEST 2011 from (24.44.103.67)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Pat - I was watching Lee v. Grant on the History Channel and one of the prof's or authors said that Lee essentially sided with the south because of his allegiance to Virginia and that Virginia (obviously) sided with the Confederate cause - it really wasn't until after the Civil War that allegiances to states over the Union subsided. I'm probably citing the obvious to you but I was a little surprised that allegiances to states was still such a motivating factor at that time - yet it strengthens the argument that though slavery was the core issue of the war, it was also about a states right to choose for itself what and how it wanted to dictate political business. It now makes more sense to me (all these years later) when someone argues that the war was more about states rights, than slavery - the two were not essentially seperate entities but weaved within the same fabric that needed to ripped apart before it could be sewn back together for a stronger country.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 16:54:15 CEST 2011 from (68.164.6.24)

Posted by:

Pat B

OK, he's not the prophet of Americana. That should settle that.

The South Will Rise Again is part of the Lost Cause myth. After the Civil War, birth rates in the South cratered, economic activity ceased, and PTSD spread like wildfire. When the country basically turned its back on minority rights in 1876 (the end of Reconstruction) and the Republican Party forsook its founders and became the mouthpiece of big business, a myth arose that the South didn't really lose the war but was overwhelmed by an unstoppable force. Yeah, I know, that sounds like splitting hairs, but it aided in reuniting those elements that rebelled with those elements they rebelled against. So the Rebel cause was just, they just didn't have the numbers to pull it off. Reconstruction was recast as an effort to destroy the chivalrous Southern ways. As the South emerged from its psychological and economic depression--concurrent with the enacting of Jim Crow Laws etc--the concept of The South Will Rise Again became a motif.

As a sidelight, Robert E. Lee completely rejected all vestiges of the Confederacy after the war. He constantly reminded folks that they all were now American, although his wife held much harsher views. Lee went so far as to march out of step whenever his Washington College and VMI had joint ceremonies. He also wrote once that he wished he had never joined the army, that his life would have been better spent educating the youth rather than killing it.

Jed, I found that many versions of the Palladium show are sped up, probably because of the tape media and the varying speeds from one tape machine to another. Hopefully one day it will be released similar to the King Biscuit DC show--both were radio broadcasts. For me, the Palladium is the real Last Waltz although their last gig seems to be in Pittsburgh. And they did a similar version of Twilight at the The Greek Theater a few weeks before. It was also a staple of the 76 tour.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 16:41:57 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Al, check out the March 3, 1974 show at Georgetown University. An incredible rendition of "For You". The entire show is amazing.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 15:53:19 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The South Will Rise Again

I had a Google around. An urban myth says it's attributed to Robert E. Lee in 1865 (for a double Band connection), but no evidence was found. Elsewhere it says it was a KKK rallying cry (hence Robbie's statement that he found it chilling?)


Entered at Fri Jun 24 15:49:10 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Americana

We discussed the origin of the term a few years ago. It was being used definitely by the 1950s to describe quilts, paintings, craft works. In 1964, Robert Merrill released an LP called "Americana" … see link. I don't think this is the first musical reference either .It was a way of linking Battle Hymn of The Republic, Oklahoma! and Camptown Races, all on the Merrill LP. I suspect The Band was an early ROCK music reference.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 15:23:30 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Subject: For Al Edge.......

Al, for some great boots of vintage Springsteen check out the link. Some fantastic recordings there. Some of the early 70's shows are of surprisingly good sound quality and give you a real sense of the vibe around those performances. The music is exuberant and hearing Bruce tell some great stories is well worth the time to download some of those gems.

Hope you enjoy it.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 14:49:15 CEST 2011 from (59.101.14.222)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Kevin j

Surely if you were to emigrate in protest of a bob seger cover, you'd go to khatmandu...


Entered at Fri Jun 24 14:01:26 CEST 2011 from (68.199.152.229)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: 9/18/76

Listened last night to The Band @ The Palladium in NYC & was blown away recalling that that was my first live Band show.Does anyone here recall hearing Twilight done in a rockin' manner with full horn section?Did they ever do that song like that before or after?Always struck me as a soft song & to hear it as a rocker was really different.(i guess I failed to notice in 1976!!)Any thoughts? Overall,a special show,albeit they seem,at times,to be playing like they're speeding down an old back road in Woodstock! I also got a kick hearing the DJ say they started the show early so the Howard Johnson horn section can get over to Sat. Night Live to back James Taylor! Any info regarding this show would be most appreciated.When I finished listening I put on The Who Live @ Leeds--wow 2 great shows & a long night of great music!


Entered at Fri Jun 24 13:58:07 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: The Prophet of Americana

Adam2- no reviewer, no fan- nada, zip, zilch, zero is the score on RR being referred to or discussed as "the prophet of Americana" prior to RR doing so. The Band's music has been described as the first coming of, or the predecessor of Americana music, and The Band has been referred to as the first Band to make Americana music....Americana is a term I have never liked,,, and think it is inapproporaite and inapplicable to so many musics that get the tag...


Entered at Fri Jun 24 12:22:28 CEST 2011 from (41.97.162.108)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Ke$ha 38 770 642 times viewed, here where the culture is rushing now (poor J2R for the Band connection)


Entered at Fri Jun 24 12:18:44 CEST 2011 from (41.97.162.108)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Trabadja La Moukère

1850, musique by Gérard Castello, first sung by Eugène Dubreuil.
A major tune, which was interpreted by Mistinguett in the 30s. The French Legionnaires' road song. This song was banned in all the colonies in 1951, regarded as racist,

Original lyrics

Au fin fond de l'Afrique Au pays des Musulmans
On entend une musique le soir au soleil couchant
. C'est le chant des petites moukères qui s'en vont tous là-bas
Vers la mosquée pour prier Allah,

Le petit Arbi il mange les bananes, et il jette la peau
ça le fait glisser, le petit Bicot il se casse le nez
Ah y’a de quoi rigoler Trabadja la Moukère
Refrain : Trabadja bono trempe ton Cul dans la soupière tu me diras si c'est chaud.

Mes amis, de l'Afrique, j'en ai plein le dos
on y marche trop vite, on n' boit qu' de l'eau
La bière est amère, le vin est trop cher,
On voit des moukères noires comme des corbeaux

La cantinière Barbique n'a rien dans le bidon
jamais le nez ne se pique avec son piqueton
Pour prendre sa pistache faut le dire à dache
Qui répond macach kifkif bourriquot

Pour laver sa limace faut voir le mercanti
Qui fait une grimace kifkif le chadi
Aateni douro djid el Monaco
Vilain Arabico ou je te crève la peau

Fumant une bouffarde, portant la chechia
On pille et on chaparde dans la razzia
Mais dans le gourbi en faisant du fourbi
Fatma qui sourit fait cocu l'Arbi

Né de père inconnu et de mère inconnue
Je suis né dans la rue un jour de grande revue
Comme j'avais l'âme guerrière Je suis partit en guerre
A Rabat au Maroc Ce fut le premier choc

Des bédouins engourdis du haut de la colline
Balançaient des pruneaux en guise de praline
Par un éclat d'obus soudain je fus touché
J'eus trois côtes d'enfoncées et le ventre emporté

Les médecins m'ont dit vous n'avez plus de bedaine
A la place ils greffèrent le ventre d'une Marocaine
Mais aussitôt greffé, le ventre à la fatma
Reprit ses habitudes en dansant la danse du ventre

Et quand je fus guéri je repartis en guerre
Sur l'air de trabadja, trabadja la moukère
Je fus fait prisonnier par un pacha rebelle
Qui me fit déshabiller pour me couper les ailes

Mais quand il me vit nu il s'écria Alla
Il avait reconnu le ventre de sa fatma
Chérie oh ma chérie dit-il tu sais je t'aime
Ils t'ont défiguré mais je te reconnais quand même

Heureusement que les copains sont venus me délivrer
Sinon je crois bien que j'étais déshonoré
De retour à Paris mon médecin me dit que j’allais être mère
Car le ventre de la fatma portait un négrillon

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a first draft English translation
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At the far end of Africa the land of Muslims
We hear a music, the evening at sunset.
It is the song of small moukères all who go there
To the mosque to pray Allah,

The small Arbi he eats bananas, and he throws the skin
It drags the little Bicot breaks his nose
Oh This is something to laugh about, Trabadja the Moukère
Trabadja bono dip your ass in the bowl you tell me if it's hot.

Friends, of Africa I'm fed up
There we walk too fast, we don 't drink but water!
Beer is bitter, the wine is too expensive
You see the moukères black as crows

the Barbique canteen has nothing in the can
Nose does not pique his piqueton
To make ones pistachio, you must tell the chief
Responding “nothing, the same” donkey

To wash the slug ones must see the mercantile
Make a grimace “like an ape”
”give me one douro” from Monaco
Ugly Arabico or I'll burst your skin

Smoking a pipe, wearing the fez
It is pilfering and plundering in the raid
But in the shack by the kit
Fatma is smiling, she cuckolded the Arbi

Born of unknown father and mother
I was born in the street one day of great review
As my soul was warrior I went to war
At Rabat, Morocco This was the first shock

Bedouin numb from the top of the hill
Swung us bullets as pralines
By a shrapnel suddenly I was hit
I had three ribs broken and the belly pressed away

The doctors told me you have no more belly
Instead they grafted the belly of a Moroccan woman
But once grafted the belly of Fatma
Resumed his habits dancing belly dancing

And when I was cured I returned to war
On the tune of trabadja, trabadja the moukère
I was taken prisoner by a rebel warlord
Who made me undress to clip my balls

But when he saw me naked he shouted Alla
He had recognized the womb of his Fatma
Dear oh dear he said you know I love you
Did they disfigured but I still recognise you

Fortunately, the guys came to deliver me
Otherwise I think I was dishonored
Back in Paris my doctor told me I was going to be a mother
For the belly of the Fatma was bearing a little negro

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note by poster :

I have often and anywhere argued that the 19th century colonialism in Africa MINUS RACISM would have had a chance to keep the road, and would have reduced the exodus pressure on Europe today, and would have saved talks to Enoch Powell


Entered at Fri Jun 24 10:11:32 CEST 2011 from (78.141.25.145)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: The south will rise again

Be fair, this slogan predates Robbie or Diamond Helm. In the past Robbie has attributed it to Levon's dad, 'all the old men' and 'someone.' I saw it on vintage belt buckles before I read Robbie quoting it. it's as generic as 'there'll always be an England'. You're trying hard if you read a slight there.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 06:50:38 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Prophet or Profit?

Thanks for the clip RTO. I do tend to gravitate towards the earlier era of the Eagles. I like to tease Westcoaster about the disco influence on some of their later 70's music, but to be honest, many other groups were also latching onto that disco beat in an effort to seem current. The Stones did it, and probably nobody incorporated it more successfully than Fleetwood Mac on some of the Rumors album material.

Just read the word of the Prophet. Not too much new there except the story about, ‘Just remember Robbie, the South is gonna rise again’, now seems to be attributed to a generic "someone" rather than Diamond Helm which is the name that used to get mentioned when Robbie used to tell that story.

For all of this talk of casting, I think the ultimate casting directer in this story must have been a fellow by the name of Ronnie Hawkins. How would things have turned out without his integral role of pulling these five guys together? Big Time Bill.....Big Time!

Joe J, Thanks for the Paul Simon link. I had a smile on my face the entire time.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 05:46:28 CEST 2011 from (99.141.20.107)

Posted by:

Adam2

Robbie can certainly lay it on thick sometimes, but let's be reasonable. He did not declare himself "the prophet of Americana", but rather was describing his early life and how he came to be seen as the prophet of Americana by others.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 04:59:05 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Web: My link

Subject: Todd

Todd, with you on the Eagles. The decent group of that name had Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner in it, indeed - and I always liked the linked clip of them playing a J D Souther song in concert in 1972/3 more than any album moments.

Then the latest reformation saw them tackling the song again and doing an inferior take of it. Rock yourself to sleep, indeed.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 04:13:00 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: The Prophet Of Americana

Thank you Jon Lyness for posting the link to the Clash Music Robbie Robertson interview.

I read it a couple of times to make sure he really did call himself "the prophet of Americana."

This interview was pure, unadulterated, Robbie Robertson.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 02:51:38 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: Maritimes
Web: My link

Subject: and it feels so good

Check out that last link I posted. It just gets better. How cool was Rayna that she was able to pull it off? How cool was Paul Simon that he let her take it all the way? If you weren't a Paul Simon fan you should be one now. One class act. Best you tube video I ever saw.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 01:49:50 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: here comes something and

Local girl gets to sing 'Duncan' at Simon concert. I remember mentioning this a couple weeks ago. Should have realized it'd end up on you tube. Give her credit, she made the most of it. I will remind you all again that it was Simon's first solo album that made my top 20 list.


Entered at Fri Jun 24 00:39:47 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: More My Morning Jacket

Ha ha - wondered why it struck such a chord with me

Just looking them up on You Tube and remembered this - see link

:-0)


Entered at Fri Jun 24 00:21:51 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: My Morning Jacket

Anyone with any advice?

Just been smitten by the lead singer's vocals and the band's reworking of True Love Ways on the Buddy Holly tribute album.

Think I'm in need of getting me some more

Is 'Z' the album to start with? Anyone come across them?


Entered at Fri Jun 24 00:10:42 CEST 2011 from (99.250.10.113)

Posted by:

GregD

Web: My link

Bill M- you might enjoy the above link to a story of a (Gene Clark-less) Byrds concert 45 years ago in London, ON. The opening act was the Rogues, later to become the Mandala, with one Domenic Troiano on guitar, who carried on the "Toronto sound" from RR.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 20:21:12 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Levon Helm talks about the chair Bow Thayer gave him @ a past Ramble.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 20:11:17 CEST 2011 from (24.44.103.67)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Pyramids

INteresting the mastery of precision that exists both within and out on the Giza pyramids. The mathmatical accuracy is astounding and was never replicated by later pyramid builders. Modern scholars, engineers and the like have never been able to define the technology used to build them with such primitive tools of the time. All attempts by modern scientists and engineers to even replicate a successful scaled down version have all failed. To be more precise, they have never even been able to quarry the stone using the known technology of the time. All attempts to then move the stone using ancient transportation after quarrying it with more modern technology has failed. Then all attempts at stacking scaled down versions of quarried stone (modern tools) after being transported by modern means, have failed in all early stages. Interesting reads on that subject as well as alternative histories are Fingerprint of the Gods by Graham Hancock, 12th Planet by Zecharia Sitchin, Forbidden History (a collection of essays) by Douglas Kenyon. Other writers of note who have weighed in on this subject and other of close relation are Will Hart, Frank Joseph, and Christopher Dunn (who offers a very radical theory to the pryamids that even I find a bit much). Also, Erich Von Daniken, the man who brought national attention to these ancient astronaut theories, is an interesting writer as well.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 19:47:23 CEST 2011 from (41.97.178.44)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Thanks Sadavid, isn’t your link what is commonly called hiphop ?, and the comment in your post is priceless

********** *****************

Addendum to my last post

I dislike seeing without changing anything that even the intellectual elite and ancient mavericks are now victims of a sterile excess of knowledge induced by the ICTs, unconsumed knowledge overflow which do settle out

"Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"

T.S. Eliot


Entered at Thu Jun 23 19:23:59 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Jody Girl

We were driving back from South wales and were just taking a nostalgic look at my wifes old summer camp talking about her old boyfriend's when the Cd reached Jody Girl.

and despite the knowing glint in her eye as the song played out I have to say it was a great moment. And luckily there was no sign of the oversexed Bob stalking in the bushes!

Mind you not as great as the buzz we'll get if kenny Dalglish really does manage to turn around our fortunes next season Kev. Welcome aboard honorary red.

:-0)


Entered at Thu Jun 23 19:10:49 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Sophie B Hawkins - I Want You

Agreed Kev - fabulous reworking.

Love the synthesiser too as the backdrop to her vocal. Really sets it up - dare I say not unlike the prevailing backdrop to many of the tracks on Bruce's Tunnel album.

nah - I won't say it.

:-0)


Entered at Thu Jun 23 19:04:00 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Al Edge

I have followed international/English soccer with just one eye for the most part – tuning into World Cup’s and European Cups and if in Europe reading the sports sections – but your inclusion of “Jody Girl” in that list has now clinched it for me……If ever asked again if I have a team in the EPL………..Liverpool will be my answer!!

Link: Jody Girl - Bob Seger


Entered at Thu Jun 23 18:55:14 CEST 2011 from (83.249.105.240)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Sorry Lars... Denmark is doing badly economically and culturally and politically. They are treating their animals badly. Pork meat is like bubble gum and chicken is like wood. In opposite to that The Royal family is superb! Crown Princess comes from DLEW-continent.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 18:32:02 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: The Mongolian Evacuation Pact

Al Edge undertakes to implement with Kev The Mongolian Evacuation Pact should the cataclysmic event ever occur of a Kid Rock desecration of any of his fave Seger tracks plus any other gems favoured by Kev and fellow GBer's

:-0)

1] No man's Land

2] You'll accompany me

3] Shame on the Moon

4] No Matter Who You are

5] Still the same

6] Till it Shines

7] Wait For me

8] Comin Home

9] Roll Me away

10]Fire lake

11]Jody Girl

12]Feel Like a Number

13]Turn the Page

14]Old Time Rock 'n' Roll

15]Mainstreet

16]Against the Wind

17]We've Got Tonight

18]Night Moves

19]Even Now

20]Shinin' Brightly


Entered at Thu Jun 23 18:21:38 CEST 2011 from (83.249.105.240)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Lars and Schleswig-Holstein

Nothing music related but anyway... good to see Schleswig mentioned here, Lars. My parents used to spend a few Mid-summer holidays there in early fifties after driving thru mainland Denmark. - Have a very good weekend everyone.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 18:00:21 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Great Covers

Two covers of songs I had already liked very much prior and which I now prefer in the cover version are Willie Nelson’s version of L. Cohen’s “Bird on a Wire” and Sophie B. Hawkins take on Dylan’s “I Want You” – See above link. Worth a listen.

and belated thanks Al for bringing the Buddy Holly release to our attention yesterday……..These Tribute projects are a tricky and sometimes shoddy area of the business…………The bigger names push sales but often just mail in the recording and then there is also the impossibility of just topping the originals in the first place……….Bravo to Garth Hudson because his song selection and guidance on the recent Band tribute was well handled……….Who knew Raine Maida could elevate the turgid “The Moon Struck One” into a thing of beauty……….Who knew Peter Gabriel could murder l.. Cohen’s “Suzanne” on the otherwise ok Tower of Song tribute ……………and if that “barely better than Vanilla Ice/trying soooo hard to sound like Bob Seger” wanker Kid Rock…..is ever allowed near a Bob Seger tribute……I’ll fold it all and move to Mongolia……..


Entered at Thu Jun 23 17:43:43 CEST 2011 from (83.249.105.240)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Connecting

It takes NorthWestCoaster to see connection between Norbert's posts and one of Empty Now's recent post:

Foreign Legion Headquarters are situated in the town of ORANGE and because ... well just watch football (soccer).


Entered at Thu Jun 23 15:40:17 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Buddy Holly

In the words of the Flying Burrito Brothers, us "older guys" remember that Buddy Holly was one of the first to popularize the Fender Stratocaster.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 15:18:27 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: yikes

Empty Now: check this out. The melody that thrives on abuse and never dies.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 14:25:07 CEST 2011 from (41.97.178.44)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

in the link, until 0:05 the tune of Trabaja La Moukere (Streets of Cairo) by the Beatles (Pete Best on drums)

awesome font used for the lyrics


Entered at Thu Jun 23 14:18:39 CEST 2011 from (41.97.178.44)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: hidden in plain sight

Yesterday evening, after a nice The Band GB session, where I specially enjoyed reading some posts, I crossed a colleague from the Learned Society who rushed into me for help on the hypothesis weather pyramids weren’t built by Pharaohs but by Nephilim giants. I politely made him understand that I am the last person in the world he can rely on for new insights about the built of Pyramids. I googled and then realized that half of the planet is talking today about the topic in question which chances to introduce a 9th radical revolution in human thinking, and I merely thought it’s kind of subject which helps minds to get busy for awhile, not more, as the Dan Brown bullshit etc.

Never like before we are exposed to be fooled by the high-tech information. rushed into our comfortable ideas rooted for ages, new truth often means new lobby wanting to set itself up as authority of the 9th kind.

I was more disappointed when I recalled that the same colleague was the one who a long time ago taught me everything about “Travadja La Moukere” it was much more interesting, and more in the real. It’s an original Algerian tune dated 1850 and adopted by the French Foreign Legion with French-mocking-Spanish lyrics

Travadja La Moukère , Travadja Bono, Trempe ton cul dans la soupière
Si c'est chaud c'est que ça brûle, Si c’est froid c’est des petits pois

(work country maid, work well, put your ass in the soup tureen,
if it’s hot it burns, if it’s cold it’s beans)

The song was made famous in the USA with lyrics written by James Thornton as "Streets Of Cairo” or “The Poor Little Country Maid”

I will sing you a song, And it won't be very long,
'Bout a maiden sweet, And she never would do wrong,
Ev'ryone said she was pretty, She was not long in the city,
She never saw the hoochie coochie, Poor little country maid.

Today i just I feel the need to cut and past(and rearange) the memorable post from Jimbo Wales dated Mon Sep 29 19:10:57 UTC 2003, repliying to a scientist who takes this kake world a little to seriously

Today i just I feel the need to cut and past (and rearrange) the memorable post from Jimbo Wales dated Mon Sep 29 19:10:57 UTC 2003, replying to a scientist who takes this fake world a little too seriously :

“The specific factual content of an article is none of my business. My sole interest here is that the wiki process is respected.
If your viewpoint is in the majority, then it should be easy to substantiate it with reference to commonly accepted reference texts.
If your viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents, and the article should certainly address the controversy without taking sides.
If your viewpoint is held by an extremely small minority, then _whether it's true or not, whether you can prove it or not_, it doesn't belong in Wikipedia
Remember, I'm not much interested in "is it true or not" . We could talk about that forever and get nowhere. I'm only interested in the much more tractable question "is it encyclopedic and NPOV or not"? "

Jimbo Wales and & Co are one of the models of what cleverness could be today

************

Lars: nice post. Versus the idea that a patriarch from the past gives birth to a tribe, I prefer thinking that a person is the result of the crossing of a crowd. The genealogy is an inverted pyramid, actually the tree whose root is the youngest person.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 14:07:23 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Born on this day in '37, Niki Sullivan, guitarist, singer, one of the three original members of Buddy Holly's backing group, The Crickets. He co-wrote a number of his hit songs and sang back-up vocals on 27 of the 32 songs Buddy recorded over his brief career. Sullivan died suddenly of a heart attack on April 6th 2004, at his home in Independence, Missouri aged 66


Entered at Thu Jun 23 14:05:26 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Subject: Buddy Holly's Gibson acoustic guitar.

In '90, Buddy Holly’s Gibson acoustic guitar sold for £139,658 ($237,419) in a Sotheby's auction. The guitar was in a tooled leather case made by Holly himself.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 10:19:05 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Correction update

The perfection of the Black Keys doo wop take on 'Dearest' has now just pushed its nose to the front.

:-0)


Entered at Thu Jun 23 10:10:36 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Too gruesome to even discuss

Ha ha

Love it Kev.

I can see why lou's Peggy Sue might grate - but he does tend to do these type of treatments on these tribute albums and though I do have to say this one isn't quite as good as some of the others i've heard in the context of what this album sets out to achieve - and I think does in spadefuls - I'm fine with it.

As for Kid Rock's Atlantic/Stax/Muscle Shoals treatment of Well alright - well I'm certainly more than alright with it. I loved how it dovetailed with the rest.

BTW, Kev for me Patti smith has just edged John Doe into second spot with paul mcCartney after my latest listen this morning. But hey this is still a moving target.

:-0)


Entered at Thu Jun 23 02:12:22 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: More Linda

Linked above is a live version of Linda Ronstadt singing 'Silver Threads and Golden Needles' with the Bernie Leadon era Eagles......quite a few years before they became a DISCO group. How about that Norm!


Entered at Thu Jun 23 01:58:29 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: hurley

"Da fuck" I asked? "That's hurley", my son replied "kinda like Irish lacrosse, buncha vicious old Irishmen". I'd just picked him up from his ball hockey game for a Mother's Day brunch and I'd been wondering who had taken over the court and to what purpose.

It's been in the back of my mind ever since and tonight it finally came through - hurley - hurley ball - 'a rusty tin can and a old hurley ball' - see link to the Pogues "Broad Majestic Shannon".


Entered at Thu Jun 23 01:56:24 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Cover Songs

Great idea Michelle. I agree about Jimi's take on 'All Along The Watchtower'. I think it became the definitive version and even Bob eventually started doing something closer to Jimi's arrangement.

On the Buddy Holly topic, I've always liked Linda Ronstadt's version of 'It Doesn't Matter Anymore' written by Paul Anka, but most closely associated with Buddy.

On the topic of Linda Ronstadt, I also enjoy her version of 'Different Drum' written by Mike Nesmith. I was going to link to a version of that, but instead found this amazing version (linked above) of Linda singing ‘Desperado’ in 1977. What a voice…..pure, powerful, & emotional, with a natural vibrato that never crosses the line into warbling territory. She may be one of the best pop/rock singers of all time, and it’s odd that I only think about her occasionally.

I'd put The band's version of 'Long Black Veil' on par with the original.

Uncle Tupelo did a version of Iggy Pop's 'I Wanna Be Your Dog' which was a lot of fun.

I'll have to give this some more thought. I haven't even thought about the Byrds or the Stones yet.


Entered at Thu Jun 23 01:36:02 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Waylon!!!!!!

Well........I got the album Joe. I have so many I've never counted them. I don't know how to put it on CD from my vinyl, but I can easy put it on a cassette and send it to you. Just tell me where old son!


Entered at Thu Jun 23 01:26:12 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Holly Medley

That Buddy Holly medley by Waylon was 'Well Alright/It's So Easy/Maybe Baby'. Included on the 'I've Always Been Crazy' album, it was actually recorded several years earlier and can be found on the remastered verion of 'This Time'. Unfortunately I have neither album; haven't heard that medley in years. Damn.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 23:35:29 CEST 2011 from (95.147.184.100)

Posted by:

Michelle

Location: Ascot

Subject: Buddy/tributes/cover versions

Yeah, reading westcoaster's comments re. Buddy tribute album,what is the difference between a 'tribute' and a cover version? There's another genre Al to add to the forum, cover versions of our favourite and most sacred songs, personally I think Jimi's version of 'All Along the Watchtower' was an excellent example, he put his own sensibilty and individuality into that to make it a great song, all his own. Robert Elms on Radio London does a great slot where he pits the original of a song against a cover. Sadly Adele beat Bob! (To Make you Feel my Love) whats happening there! Anyway the point is, sometimes the younger generation only here the cover versions of these great classics, should we put them right?


Entered at Wed Jun 22 23:26:55 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: The Woods

Subject: Danish stonemasons

I always liked Buddy Holly. When I was young and he burst onto the scene he kind of looked odd with those glasses, I'd never seen such heavy-looking glasses before. But I learned to like his music and I remember being shocked when the music died. As the years go by I think Buddy's music holds up very well.

NORBERT- I meant to answer you a lot earlier, but I got side-tracked. I've been doing my family tree and finding out about my distant ancestors. Some of them were stonemasons and they used to commute to the German cathedrals; of course, it wasn't such a long commute back then because Denmark was BIGGER BEFORE THE GERMANS TOOK OUR SOUTHERN LANDS IN THE SECOND SCHLESWIG WAR....but that's water under the bridge. After WW2 the allies offered the land back to the Danes and the Danes didn't want it because there were too many Germans living on it. They might have taken the northern-most town in order to get hold of a new brewery, I can't remember. Anyway, the Danes are the ones who did that carving of people around Naumberg, take my word for it. It's a rainy day around here and I got to thinking, "What would Norm do?" so I cleaned part of the house. And I washed my dog, the only Lab I ever met who's afraid of water. I guess he thought I was mad at him because he looked pretty uptight.

Mid-summer's eve or not, next year I'm not buying any more aquavit....


Entered at Wed Jun 22 23:03:59 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The truth will out!

"Not Fade Away". I apprieciate your comments Al. I'have never been that taken with that compilation. I didn't even think Levon Helm did that well with, Not Fade Away.

On the video, Graham Nash gives a great explanation of how they took Buddy's voice, and put it through this machine,so the Hollies could do harmony with him on Peggy Sue Got Married. I wasn't that impressed.

Just as you felt, I really liked what the Dirt Band did with "Maybe Baby". Jeff's explanation on my video of how they arrived at their "laid back" take on the song with the mandolin and how they felt about it, I thought was a good fit.

There is one thing, that cannot be denighed. There will always be those who bring their feelings to his music, (whatever they may be), but......the fact that so many people appreciate his music in what ever way it moves them, is still great.

Listening to Waylon's medley of his tribute to Buddy Hollie, as only Waylon can, (from a guy who played all those songs with him on that last and fateful night), is very special to me.

I guess the only thing that is a little distasteful, and I mean this with any artist, diceased and from our past who we miss, respect and love their music, is when some one tries to get mileage from riding on their coat tales, and it does happen.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 22:04:29 CEST 2011 from (95.147.184.100)

Posted by:

Michelle

Location: Ascot

Subject: Buddy Holly

Thanks Al for posting link to Buddy Holly tribute album, sounds great! my favourites are Justin Townes Earle, John Doe, Patti Smith and Nick Lowe. But yes, I agree all tracks are great and that will be playing in our household throughout the summer too,(if we ever get a summer!) read Patti's book, Just Kids, recommend that!


Entered at Wed Jun 22 20:56:41 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: RtO

Thanks. Alex Harvey was great live. Try and see Frankie's play. It really captures a time and place.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 20:41:50 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Buddy Holly

A quick take on the Buddy Holly tribute………absolute gems are John Doe – the standout cover here - and Townes Earle……….in the “too gruesome to even discuss” category are the Kid Rock and Lou Reed…. I trust injuries will occur in most trying to skip theses tracks.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 19:56:18 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: The Rave On Buddy Tribute album

Joan, I also love that singer's take on True Love Ways. Absolutely beautiful. And as near as he stays to the original pace and production he still manages to give it a freshness. He certainly puts Graham Nash's take - fine effort as it is - on Raining in My Heart in the shade - or should that be under the umbrella :-0).

It's a freshness which I think is the much the same for all the other tracks. And i'm sure it's this tender love and care spent in ensuring such freshness which makes this tribute album stand out so much from the crowd.

So I'm very much with you Joan.

In fact I'm staggered at how essential this tribute album is beginning to sound to me. I've listened to the entire thing about half a dozen times on that website all afternoon while working and there's not an ounce of filler on the entire thing. It is simply superb from start to finish. You simply want to hear each track again and again.

Westie and Pete mentioned the previous tribute album - Not Fade Away - and with my daughter being a particularly avid Buddy fan, I bought that for her.

Have to say we were a bit disappointed with it - sorry Westie. Every track was certainly competant enough but in essence they were merely re-workings of the originals. Apart from Los Lobos and Nitty Gritty dirt band, none stood out as anything different from what's been heard so many times before - and crucially none came near the original standard of Buddy himself.

In stark contrast, this one is just outstanding. Obviously, I'd never say the originals can be eclipsed like I believe Shawn Colvin did with her wondrous Viva Las Vegas out of respect for Buddy's originals but Jeez these versions go that extra mile in trying to emulate Shawn.

There are some sensational performances.

None of the tracks are ever less than beautifully observed, lovingly and creatively intepreted and every last one sung with a real touching poignancy for the creator of the gems but above all with a freshness that brings new life to Buddy's creations.

As it stands now John Doe's take on "Peggy Sue Got Married" is just about stealing it for me. An absolutely stonking take. But, really, there just isn't a weak take to be heard.

Every single track fresh and different and a real tribute - the object of the exercise.

Full marks to all those involved.

:-0)

For anybody else interested the link is in a post below and the songs and artists are:

1. Dearest - The Black Keys

2. Everyday - Fiona Apple, Jon Brion

3. It's So Easy - Paul McCartney

4. Not Fade Away - Florence + The Machine

5. (You're So Square) Baby, I Don't Care - Cee Lo Green

6. Crying, Waiting, Hoping - Karen Elson

7. Rave On - Julian Casablancas

8. I'm Gonna Love You Too - Jenny O.

9. Maybe Baby - Justin Townes Earle

10. Oh Boy - She & Him

11. Changing All Those Changes - Nick Lowe

12. Words Of Love - Patti Smith

13. True Love Ways - My Morning Jacket

14. That'll Be The Day - Modest Mouse

15. Well All Right - Kid Rock

16. Heartbeat - The Detroit Cobras

17. Peggy Sue - Lou Reed

18. Peggy Sue Got Married - John Doe

19. Raining In My Heart - Graham Nash


Entered at Wed Jun 22 19:24:05 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Buddy Holly

I love what the Bunch (an AWB connection for Dunc!) did with "Learning The Game". Same for Dewey Martin's "Maybe Baybe" from his post-Springfield "Medicine Ball" LP. And I think I'd rather see Rush's first 45, a cover of "Not Fade Away" included, if only to get it into the hands of the completists who can't find / afford one of the mere hundreds of copies that were pressed. Speaking of Buffalo Springfield, the best versions of my favourite Holly song, "Rockin' With Ollie V", were the live ones done regularly by Bruce Palmer's late '70s group, the Village (which you could say evolved into Buffalo Springfield Revisited - who did shows with reformed Band). Unfortunately they never got to release anything at all.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 19:15:01 CEST 2011 from (108.41.170.6)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Buddy Holly

Thank you Al for posting this. What a terrific bunch if songs and what an amazing body of music. I liked My Morning Jackets True love ways. Very romantic arrangement.Nick Lowe's little bit was great.

However I think Rick's version of Raining In My Heart will always be the best. I'm probably going to end up with this, but my bank account is shouting NO!!!!


Entered at Wed Jun 22 18:56:43 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Man in the Long Black Coat

Todd: It can be said that, early on, Johnny Cash was a singles artist, beginning with his Sun recordings. Later on at Columbia, however, he embraced the album approach and became one of the pioneers of the "concept" album with such works as "Ride This Train", "Blood, Sweat and Tears", "Bitter Tears: Ballads of the American Indian" and "Sings the Ballads of the True West". Albeit, those albums would primarily feature covers, but Mr. Cash would brand them with his own unique imprint.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 18:37:53 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks Jon…..indeed an excellent interview with some fresh areas covered. Interesting how a touch of ego does add to the interest quotient and RR has that ingrediant covered.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 18:18:11 CEST 2011 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Robbie interview

New Robbie interview with Clash Music, worth a read. Some interesting comments on Eric Clapton's involvement in How to Become Clairvoyant, and on The Band covering "Ain't No More Cane" back in the day.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 18:08:49 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Nadine

Above link with Roy O and Bruce Springsteen on Nadine. Hail Hail Rock n Roll is right there with TLW in terms of music movies for a desert island and the "Extras" section is by far the best addition to any dvd ever released.......not only the "for the ages" trio discussion of Chuck, Bo Didley and Little Richard but the part with Robbie Robertson where Chuck does his poetry is very very special.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 18:03:24 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Top Picks

Thanks for the list Al. No real surprises in the choices, although it's interesting to see how much The Band (no surprise for this site), the Beatles and Bob Dylan dominated.

It was tough for me to have to leave out artists like Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, James Brown, Buddy Holly, and Johnny Cash, but most of their greatest work was done before the album became the thing. And as we were to avoid compilations, there was not a lot of room for singles artists.

I didn't have Bob Marley's 'Catch a Fire' on my list, as the Marley material I seem to listen to most is the 4 CD box 'Songs of Freedom'. However I do usually play Disc 2 which is around the same time frame as Catch a Fire and contains the recently mentioned 'High Tide Or Low Tide'

Kevin J, I had forgotten about my "antennae" theory. Paul Simon is certainly one who has been able to distill a wide variety of influences in his work. He's a tough one to choose just one album for. His entire career has been very strong, and one album (even one as great as 'Graceland') doesn't seem to do cover his entire career.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 17:32:20 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Albums

The album where the Band & the Crickets do "Not Fade Away" with Levon singing it is called, "Not Fade Away". I have mentioned before I made a video of the making of it, narrated by Waylon.

One of the best, I forget which Waylon album it's on, (I'd have to go look) is a medley of Buddy's songs that Waylon does. In the video I made, Waylon tells the true story about the plane crash. Richy Valens flipped a coin for his seat, and the Big Bopper asked Waylon for his seat, and he gave it up.

One of the best albums re Graceland, is a Merle Haggard album called, "From Graceland to the Promised Land"


Entered at Wed Jun 22 17:17:42 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry, me again. Graceland was on my list, surely? I agree it's an essential. It's one of my most played albums.

The reason Chuck wasn't on is that we were trying to avoid compilations (though I had The Everly Brothers when they re-recorded their earlier hits on switching to Warner Bros). I can't think of an original non-compilation of hits Chuck album that was THAT good. The post-prison 'St Louis to Liverpool' 1964 is the closest, and might make it if he hadn't been daft enough to leave Nadine off it. This morning Joe Brown was choosing the very best songs of the 60s, and chose Nadine. I agree.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 17:11:12 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Band Meets The Crickets was good, but if you wanted to compile a Buddy Holly covers album, you'd have to find room for something from Bobby Vee Meets The Crickets, a fine album, and close to the originals given Vee's Buddy Holly imitation + The Crickets, but it was recorded particularly well.

Blind Faith for Well All Right? Not sure that it's the best cover version, and not as good as the original, but it's an interesting one.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 17:08:32 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I do note that Credence did make “Whoever’s” list as did Chuck Berry………but Graceland really is the notable standout for its lack of appreciation by this GB crowd……….I do not listen to it at all anymore but judging by the comments Paul Simon and that album in particular have generated here over the years – it is a surprise. As is the lack of Chuck Berry on most lists.

CCR and Gordon Lightfoot are distinguished by having 15-25 instantly recognized songs and yet not a single definitive album other than a greatest hits package……..Many of the old-timers also fall into that category………….At least the Band’s 2nd album finished where it should have…..

Rented an interesting documentary yesterday called “The Endurance” about a 1914 expedition to cross the Antarctic continent. Highly recommended.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 16:39:29 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Holly Holy

I've always enjoyed Leo Kottke's haunting cover of "Learning the Game", from his fine 1978 record "Balance". That album, produced by Kenneth Buttrey, also includes a great cover of Jorma Kaukonen's "Embryonic Journey".


Entered at Wed Jun 22 15:01:59 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Holly Hollies

Sir Paul owns the Buddy Holly song catalogue, so has an incentive. All new stuff. The Band contributed to the 1996 one, Not Fade Away, performing the title track with The Crickets. That was all new then. You could do another Ace-style Songwriter series compilation with already recorded stuff too … but there's not a lot wrong with the originals. Starting point:

Not Fade Away - The Rolling Stones


Entered at Wed Jun 22 14:02:04 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Happy b'day Todd Rundgren (b. 1948)! Stage Fright is a very cool album.


Entered at Wed Jun 22 13:24:52 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Genius...

...is a word bandied around. And often not merited as we all know.

..but Buddy Holly...pop genius...no question whatsoever.

Have a listen to the link tribute album. It's released in early July. I've just pre-ordered it. Some absolute corking stonking monster beautiful beyond words covers of Buddy's two minute pop gems - including a 4 minute It's So Easy from macca.

You can sense the awe in the voice of every single artist paying tribute with their own personal homily to the giant that was Buddy Holly.

Truly magical

Wouldn't like to pick a favourite but when it arrives I can't see much else being played in the Edge household these next few months.

FUCKINELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Entered at Wed Jun 22 12:40:27 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Extra sensory conception

Ha ha

nice one fred...

Hmmm, but I don't remember writing any notes about a ship!!

:-0)


Entered at Wed Jun 22 12:33:57 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Alan: I'd like to say that it is all down to my psychic sensiblities being in tune with the Scouser psyche, but alas that would not be true. The truth...(cue ominous music) is...found in the "liner notes" you wrote when you sent me that Gourds compilation CD several moons ago. : )


Entered at Wed Jun 22 12:14:47 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Fred

Funny that Fred, me arl mucker. I had a feeling that you'd have a feeling that I'd pick that lyric.

:-0)

Being semi-sensible for a moment, it's nice if that's the case. Was it sort of intuitive or had I mentioned something ages ago about it resonating with me?


Entered at Wed Jun 22 12:06:59 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Alan

I had a feeling you were going to pick that lyric from that song. : )


Entered at Wed Jun 22 11:44:58 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Lyrics

Love some of the selections so far.

Emotionally mine would no doubt be a Bruce lyric or the Band's Set my compass north I got winter in my blood [gets me every time]

For now though I'll go with Jimmy Smith's "All The Labour" sung with Irish twang. If you've spent a working lifetime in the building game then for all its pain in the ass you do develop a deep love for it all and Jimmy's words do seem somehow to understand that weird connection.

"All the labour landed in the sod

where the digger cried it's my calling sir

and it is no mistake that I put her in the ground so well

And if they pay me well that's great

It's just gravy

I'd do it anyway

Now actually Jimmy lad, you can fuck right off with yer doing it for nowt like - but we do know what you mean. Great stuff son - a lyric that achieves what it sets out to do. The rest of the song ain't half bad too. :-0)


Entered at Wed Jun 22 11:32:32 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Gielgud

Subject: Todd - number of selections

I presume this is what you wanted Todd. As you can see, with a few exceptions, the number of selections followed the points totalled, though Exile and Blood on the Tracks might have scored more if selected higher in peoples lists.

I agree with whoever said about Graceland. Also I think Creedence would have been in there but suffered from not having a definitive album. Both would certainly have featured in any Compilation list.

BTW Westie - this took me 20 minutes - using ultra sophisticated technology yet to be unleashed on the innocent world at large. Not to be attempted at home - and certainly not on a barge in the vicinity of Vancouver!!!

:-0)

1] The Band – Brown Album - 21 selections

2] The Band – Big Pink - 17 selections

3] Bob Dylan – Blonde on Blonde - 12 selections

4] Bob Dylan – Highway 61 - 10 selections

5] The Band – Stagefright - 7 selections

6] Van the man – Astral Weeks - 7 selections

7] The Beatles - Revolver - 5 selections

8] Bob Dylan – Blood on the Tracks - 7 selections

9] The Beatles – Abbey Road - 5 selections

10] Rolling Stones – Exile on Main Street - 7 selections

11] Bob Dylan – Bringing it All Back Home - 4 selections

12] The Beatles – Rubber Soul - 4 selections

13] Bob Dylan & The Band – Basement Tapes - 4 selections

14] The Wailers/Bob Marley – Catch A Fire - 4 selections

The rest were 2's, 3's and 4's Todd


Entered at Wed Jun 22 11:04:52 CEST 2011 from (41.97.216.105)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Like a Queen

another masterpiece of Dino Risi, "New Monsters 1977" (I Nuovi Monstri). Theatrical movie in form of a series of short sketches.

"Like a Queen" linked above
Alberto Sordi (Franchi) promises to spend with his Mother a wonderful sunny day outdoor, where she is treated Like a Queen, ice cream and all the delights of life. I wish you to enjoy the this subtle melting of peaks of poignant emotion and peaks of cynic humor, which are a Dino Risi signature. The real thing begins at 9:10 – here are my rough English subtitles

– Franchi, why have you brought me here? at the hospice
– Mama! you always have the art to make me angry! …Mama we do this for you, you will be served, cajoled. It cost me money, it is not free
– When will I start to live here?
– Thursday, Patricia and I have to go to Cetona, the Crocitti have a country house, Patricia took a month off, the housemaid went to Abyssinia to have an abortion, you'll be alone
– I stayed alone so often
– Right, but it always made us anxious…How lucky you are mom to stay here, while I have to return to Rome…

An awesome performance of Nerina Montagnani (1897–1993) in the role of the abandoned Mama, this actress was famous long ago for having been the first intimate of Enzo Ferrari, car constructor


Entered at Wed Jun 22 02:46:46 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Dunc

Dunc, on that first Frankie Lp with the Brinsleys backing him I often dip into it for the rocker "It's All Over". Haven't seen the production you speak of, but you might be amused to learn that (Cream/Jack Bruce) lyricist Pete Brown and my friend Phil Ryan (Eyes of Blue/Piblokto/Man organist) were at one point working up a musical about the early days of Alex Harvey which, no joke - and reflecting his early years working for BR - was to be called "Railhouse Jock". Wonderful Spooner-esque pun! Don't talk to me about the Teenage Fannies. I may have said this before but I was forever accosted by fans who thought I was Norman Blake in guitar shops down Tin Pan Alley!!! Lank teenage hair, denim jacket, glasses - could have been anyone really.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 23:08:52 CEST 2011 from (216.226.180.2)

Posted by:

Deb

Subject: lyrics

I been working on a project that has had me listening to a LOT of Drive-By Truckers recently. They've got great lyrics for the most part and off the top of my head, these stand out:

Don't call what you're wearing an outfit/don't ever say your car is broke/don't worry 'bout losing your accent/a Southern man tells better jokes. "Outfit" -- Jason Isbell

The bottle ain't to blame and I ain't trying to/It don't make you do a thing, it just lets you. "Women Without Whiskey" -- Mike Cooley

and all of Patterson Hood's "The Living Bubba."


Entered at Tue Jun 21 22:58:49 CEST 2011 from (79.202.179.230)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Der Naumburger Meister

Empty, thanks for the echo my friend. That’s where we still stand today, despite the paper guide and Notre-Dame, father ….

Lars, in 12th 13th century men built the biggest Cathedrals ever (rooms with 48m high sealings), to show their love for Gott. Building such a Cathedral could take over 50 years …. The biggest Cathedrals included hundreds of sculptures. Thousands of stonemasons worked on that, but there was only one man that made the sculptures alive... . He was the master of stonemasons. There is nothing known about him, only the stand out quality of his work gives him away, hey can trace all his work through Germany and France. For the rest not even his name is known, they think he’s from Naumburg so the call him The Naumburg Master.

“ They include twelve sensitively characterized statues in the west chancel representing the benefactors of the original cathedral (notably the famous figures of Ekkehard and Uta) and the decoration of the screen at the entrance of the chancel with a Crucifixion group and a series of Passion reliefs. The Master of Naumburg was probably trained in northern France, but there is little doubt that he was a German by birth; his Germanic temperament emerges in the pathos and vehement gestures of his figures. However, he loses nothing of the monumental dignity and idealism of his predecessors, and in his art the two worlds of feeling seem to meet and enrich one another as in the work of perhaps no other medieval artist.”

Maybe someday I’ll show you his world, and you can ask him how is back is….


Entered at Tue Jun 21 22:56:09 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bonk: I'm sorry I didn't see your email. Maybe it got blocked or maybe I mistakenly deleted without reading. In any event, try again some time?


Entered at Tue Jun 21 22:33:53 CEST 2011 from (24.108.12.129)

Posted by:

Bonk

Location: saltSpring Island/Cabbagetown

Subject: Bill M

I don't think Jellyroll would have liked the 11 hour Steamship journey in those days, but you never know. I'll ask Valdy when I see him. Concerning Bo, yes I seen your post and e-mailed you. But thanks again for letting me know.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 22:32:23 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The lyric

There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes. from?

He pictures the arrival of the cruiser,

Sees the old familiar anger in their eyes

He knows that when they're shooting at this loser,

They'll be aiming at the demons in their lives. stay out of this one Bill!

First time that I left home, to try and make it in this world alone.

Figured I would be a star, once they heard me sing.

Folks said I was one of the best, I found out I was one of the rest.

I spent all my Sunday nights waitin' for the phone to ring.......


Entered at Tue Jun 21 22:18:08 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Bonk: I take it that Van was referring to Jellyroll Morton, who, as a resident of Vancouver for 18 months may well have ventured over to Saltspring for a looksee. (While I'm at it, did you see my notes a couple weeks ago about getting together with Denny and Jerry in Ottawa and learning of the recent (Feb.) demise of Bo Jackson?)


Entered at Tue Jun 21 22:01:44 CEST 2011 from (24.108.12.129)

Posted by:

Bonk

Location: SaltSpring Island/Cabbagetown

Subject: Lyrics

And it stoned me to my soul, stoned me just like jelly roll...


Entered at Tue Jun 21 21:45:56 CEST 2011 from (74.82.68.32)

Posted by:

David P

Another single that I forgot to include on my list: Love Me Two Times / Moonlight Drive. -- The Doors (Elektra mono), just for Peter V (:-)


Entered at Tue Jun 21 21:43:42 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Lyrics - part 2

My all-time favourite from Joe Ely:

“Well, me and Billy The Kid never got along:

I didn't like the way he cocked his hat and he wore his gun all wrong.

Well, we had the same girlfriend and he never forgot it.

She had a cute little Chihuahua till one day he up and shot it.”


Entered at Tue Jun 21 21:41:48 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: RtO and Al

Here's an attempt at the 100 greatest Scottish albums by a national paper.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 21:29:51 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Rob the Organ

Guilty as charged. I play Frankie Miller and have 5 albums and think he has a great voice. He should be there. I remember debating with Bumbles how good he was. And I remember talking with Jersey Girl about Peter McDougall's plays and my favourite Scottish play stars Frankie called Just a Boy's Game. So tough. Have you seen it? The best of Gallagher and Lyle, something from Gerry Rafferty and the lesser known Rab Noakes should be there.

Also, I feel guilty (Hullo Al) that I missed Teenage Fanclub.

I think I have about 30 John Martyn albums.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 21:16:00 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow

Don't be concerned, it will not harm you


Entered at Tue Jun 21 21:15:06 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Favorite Lines

Also from Leonard Cohen:
"And your love is some dust in an old man's cuff
who is tapping his foot to a tune"

From Jeff Tweedy's Hummingbird:
"His goal in life was to be an echo
The type of sound that floats around and then back down
Like a feather"

From Ryan Adams' Hard Way to Fall:
"I could find her in a thunderstorm
Just by the way that the rain would fall"

I'm sure there's a lot more, and I don't even have time to consider all the Dylan possibilities at the moment.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 21:08:51 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P's third groover made me wonder which is more alarming, the bright elusive butterfly of love or the bustlings of the may queen?


Entered at Tue Jun 21 21:02:22 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding

I've been grooving to the following 45 singles this week:

Positively 4th Street / From A Buick 6 -- Dylan (Columbia mono)

The Last Race / Man With The Golden Arm -- Jack Nitzsche (Reprise mono promo)

Elusive Butterfly / Cheryl's Goin' Home -- Bob Lind (World Pacific mono)

A Salty Dog / Long Gone Geek -- Procol Harum (A&M mono)

Haunted House -- Roy Buchanan (Polydor double-sided stereo/mono)

Cecilia / Only Living Boy in New York -- Simon & Garfunkel (Columbia mono)


Entered at Tue Jun 21 20:47:10 CEST 2011 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal
Web: My link

One thing that is agreed on, all Canuckistanis of a certain vintage, love this one!


Entered at Tue Jun 21 20:24:32 CEST 2011 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

I like the song, especially since the opening guitar intro is lifted from "How High The Moon" but the lyrics are, to put it mildly, a load of bullocks. Call me a philostine (not all at once!), but IMHO the lyrics suck. And now, back to scheduled programming.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 19:55:01 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Landmark: I was never all that taken with "Battle Scar", though our little buddy dlew should have it in his collection on account of it being by the the massed forces of RUSH and Max Webster (see link). And our chum RtO might appreciate the fact that Max's organist on that one was David Stone, late of Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow.

As for the Valdy song - later covered by latter-day Steppenwolf - yes indeedy, that's a good line. But if we allow just one from the Saltspring Island community, it'd have to be Bill Henderson's extended bit of brilliance: "Rain O rain O fall upon the earth again, make it green and make it cool, fill the river, fill the pool, quench the thirst of every fool and every sage and every sour soul who's lost so much he doesn't know his needs".


Entered at Tue Jun 21 19:36:28 CEST 2011 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

And how about this quintessential Canuckistani lyric: Some track star yelled "Thank God he's leaving!" by Valdy. And since Max Webster is being discussed, I still stand by my opinion that "A Million Vacations" is their best song with "Battle Scar" a close second. The floor is yours, Dr. Munson.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 18:55:59 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: It's all relative!

I'm a happy man Kev. As we speak, a crew of guys are putting the new Terra Cotta steel roof on my Spanish house. The cedar shakes are now kindling.

They have a ghetto blaster on my front lawn cranked all the way.......at this moment the BAND is belting out, "Take a load off Fanny"!......what could be more fitting than that?????


Entered at Tue Jun 21 18:41:16 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

A few from the great L. Cohen:

"Like a bird on a wire/ Like a drunk in a midnight choir/ I have tried, in my way, to be free"

“I touched your perfect body with my mind”

And less than magic but rock n roll true from Rod the Mod’s “Dixie Trot”:

“I took my luck, I didn't give a fuck, I had a good time Tell all my friends only all my best to have a good time Goodbye”


Entered at Tue Jun 21 18:13:20 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

But……But……Cheer-up Westcoaster……an obscure but otherwise hip artist named Norm Jones is tied with Paul Simon in the GB list of lists…….figure out how to paste that one!


Entered at Tue Jun 21 18:09:38 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: Thanks. If Al E ever decides to poll us for our top 20 lines, one of my faves would be from "Graceland": "The way we look to a distant constellation that's dying in a corner of the sky". There'd be one from the song "Nomad" on that Geoffrey Oreyama album too: "Good walking leaves no track behind it". Hell, there's even one from Max Webster: "And freedom - some say freedom comes after a storm", which always seems to me to go nicely with Fleetwood Mac's "Thunder only happens when it's raining, and when the rain washes you clean you'll know, you'll know". And then there's Kristofferson's "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose, and nothing ain't worth nothing but it's free". Still, I'm inclined to place Keith McKie's "Touch the hands of laughter and be blessed" at #1.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 18:05:31 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hunnnh???

OK.......Al! I don't know a gawd damn thing about what you just told me. I'm barely above illiterate. My knowledge of computers, (after pushing the switch and turning it on) is almost non-exisitent.

I use a computer for navigation hooked up to my GPS, and I can actually find sites that sell boats. My midi files are in another computer, so I have a band to play music with. This new computer is way smarter than me......I swear at it a lot. I don't think I've used paste since grade one. I'm so old I think I'm unteachable. All you guys who know all this stuff just piss me off......so I'm not talkin any more.......Bill M is way to smart for me. Our conversation consists of me listening!


Entered at Tue Jun 21 17:21:56 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Not to stroke you Bill M and not sure if it just a Toronto thing or a Canadian rock thing but your knowledge of the music scene is off the charts and a blast to read…..……Bob Ezrin has quite a resume………………….above link my favourite Alice Cooper song.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 16:58:44 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Yesterday while flipping channels came to VH1’s Classic Albums which was profiling Paul Simon’s Graceland………Todd’s “antenna” theory utilized by songwriters sure was in use during the development of that album………..On Paul Simon…the surprising stand-out in the Al Edge List of Lists was that Paul Simon garnered no more than 1 vote ( at least that was all I remember seeing ) – an interesting trend…………………..a bit like searching in vain for the Band to show up on mainstream lists.

This GB might well be the last subculture in existence………heard a news item where old age home are now opening their doors and no doubt Friday night bingo events to the transgendered community………….and to think that a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac was an eye opener 20 years ago.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 16:56:59 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

GregD: I don't think there's any Richardson involvement in Max Webster's work, though Jack Richardson and then-protege Bob Ezrin did record an unreleased album with Kim Mitchell's previous band, Zoom, and Richardson drafted the totally unknown Mitchell to be the lead guitarist for ex-Hawk Tobi Lark's in-church TV broadcast - the recorded results of which are captured in a shiver-inducing version of "We're All In This Together" that used to be on YouTube but has been removed.

Speaking of Bob Ezrin, it is a total coincidence that the album I'm currently listening to is Geoffrey Oreyama's "Beat the Border", on which Ezrin is credited with co-writing and producing two songs.

Al E: Have you seen "Arthur"? Do you feel like Geilgud at bathtime?


Entered at Tue Jun 21 16:29:07 CEST 2011 from (99.250.10.113)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: Early Max

Bill M-Was the late Jack Richardson/Nimbus 9 involved in the production of that first Max Webster album? I guess any elliptical lyrics that later influenced the Hip were the fruits of Pye DuBois


Entered at Tue Jun 21 16:26:22 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Top Twenty

Al Edge: Thanks for posting the results. Would it be possible to post a list of the 20 albums that got the most mentions. In this case I wouldn't need to know who voted for each one, but it would be interesting to see which albums got the most "votes".

I know this sort of thing takes time, so not a big deal if you can't get to it, but if you already have such a list ready, I'd be curious to see it. Thanks!


Entered at Tue Jun 21 15:25:02 CEST 2011 from (216.121.194.179)

Posted by:

S.M.

Subject: Al Edge

You are fun!

I tied with Empty Now, bet he's worried!


Entered at Tue Jun 21 10:39:25 CEST 2011 from (41.97.254.130)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: empty.now

Norbert: thanks for the post

I once wrote in a local newspaper (translated in English):

“Thus, this was how [brand name of a big American pharmaceutical company], all in the shadow and in margin of the great facts of history, has shaped civilizations, and settled the behavioral standards of the world populations”

Referring in the in the context that the 1967 “Summer of Love” was in the facts less the product of a voluntarist philosophical campaign, than the product of the vulgarization of the contraceptive pill, and its legal authorization….


Entered at Tue Jun 21 05:04:02 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: music for new englandites

This Saturday, Willimantic, Connecticut, David Foster & The Shaboo All Stars featuring Kal David


Entered at Tue Jun 21 04:55:01 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Leslie West had one of his legs amputated today in Biloxi, Mississippi. Diabetes........ Was there to do a Mountain show, leg began to swell, it was essentially lose the leg or die.


Entered at Tue Jun 21 00:08:25 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Time for dot band then.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 23:16:59 CEST 2011 from (79.202.179.104)

Posted by:

Norbert

Location: xxx.sex

"One of the biggest changes in the history of the Internet has been set to motion today"

ICANN, the nonprofit group that manages the Internet Domain Name System, unanimously voted today to begin the process of relaxing the rules for generic top-level domain names (gTLD).

"The action means that companies and other organizations eventually could run their own domains. For example, eBay Inc. could run the domain .ebay, and Microsoft Corp. could run the domain .microsoft. Currently, the endings of top-level domain names are limited to a few which include .com, .net and .org, as well as individual country codes such as .ca for Canada or .uk for the United Kingdom. "

anyway, I just bought xxx.sex, sex.sex, sex.beer, beer.sex, car.sex and car.beer (not sure about that one though).


Entered at Mon Jun 20 22:32:29 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Thank you, Al.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 20:56:21 CEST 2011 from (95.147.184.100)

Posted by:

Michelle

Location: Ascot

Subject: Clarence

Read his book recently, not the usual 'run of the mill' autobiographies, and all the better for that, wonderful stories and anecdotes. What a man! The world is a better place for you having been in it. Rest in Peace. Thanks Al for collating all the lists - that was great fun and appreciate all the hard work involved. Does that mean I have good taste in music? still trying to get a copy of Abbey Road (I am out in the sticks here!) and have been in Cyprus AND it was Ascot Week last week!


Entered at Mon Jun 20 20:13:11 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: the roots of the tragically overgorded

I pulled some CDs out of a neglected stash over the weekend. One, Max Webster's first, struck me immediately as something that had to have been a huge influence on the youngsters who grew up to be the Tragically Hip - power chords, elliptical lyrics, Canuckistani motifs ...

Although a couple of their classics from that album ("Coming Off The Moon" and "Hangover") are more Hip-like, this one, "Toronto Tontos", does a better job of showing off all four members, notably veteran keyboardist Terry Watkinson, who was playing up and down Yonge Street in the early '60s and who later (in '69) recorded one of the best-ever Rick Danko emulations, "The Chains (That Set Me Free)" on the post-Joplin Mainstream label.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 20:03:26 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Dunc

Dunc, I was impressed by your north of the border loyalty (and can understand John Martyn getting two slots) 100%...

..until I noticed no sign of Frankie Miller. Explain sir!!!


Entered at Mon Jun 20 18:59:08 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Westie - ha ha

My family and friends would agree wholeheartedly with your crazy tag Norm - possibly more weird than crazy.

:-0)

I have to put your mind at rest though Norm - there was very little typing. I just copied and pasted onto a document file each person's selection as they posted them.

I then did the scoring by printing them all out and marking each of the obvious entries with a different colour felt tip - grandsons do come in handy now and again ;-0) - then I simply totted the scores up as fairly as I could.

The only tedious bit was putting in all the /n's so each selection was on a different line before copying and posting them all back on here. All in all it took me the whole Saturday afternoon - about 4 hours or so.

PS - the missus thinks I was actually hard at work so keep schtum! In fact the hardest bit was dodging her eagle eye.

:-0)


Entered at Mon Jun 20 18:13:18 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Great pic of frmr road mgr to The Band Butch Dener w/ Clarence Clemons. Thank you, Butchie!


Entered at Mon Jun 20 17:50:09 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: All of the above.......or below

I've been roaming around Alaska for a week.....I'm too tired to say more.......I'll tell you later. Just a note to add my feelings to the passing of such a great musician and human being as Clarence Clemmons.

I'm in full agreement with others here as to the impact of Bruce and his band on our lives. Wouldn't you say they "enriched" our lives with their music.

Al Edge is one gawd damn crazy fella......that is a hell of a lot of typing. That is why you don't see more of my lists Al. I'm a lazy son of a bitch when it comes to this key board....or paper work...... I HATE IT!


Entered at Mon Jun 20 16:54:45 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Clarence Clemons

With the passing of Mr. Clemons we've lost another great musician. For many of us, he was part of the soundtrack of our lives, just as Richard and Rick were.

Todd: Bruce Springsteen began working with the Atlanta-based producer Brendan O'Brien in 2002. "The Rising", "Magic" and parts of "Devils & Dust" and "Working On A Dream" were recorded at Southern Tracks Studio in Atlanta. In recent years "Boss" sightings, along with the appearances of E-Street Band members, here became common and were an early indication that a recording project was in the works.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 15:49:12 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Big Man

Sorry to hear about Clarence. I just double-checked to make sure that Springsteen & the E-Street Band were represented on my top twenty list and I have 'The River' at #12.....sandwiched in between Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson. But I could have easily have chosen 'Born to Run' which I like as much as 'The River'. Pretty telling of the bond that Bruce and Clarence had that they are both featured on the 'Born to Run' album photography....like two brothers.

I remember reading something about the recording process for one of the recent Springsteen albums. I think it was 'Magic' which was recorded in Atlanta. I believe it was the type of process where basic tracks were recorded, and then various E-Streeters came in at various points to record their parts as overdubs. So the entire band wasn't always together in the studio at the same time for the recording process.....but Bruce always made sure that he was there in the studio when Clarance did his parts. I think they fed off of each others energy. I'm glad that I got to see them in concert together when I had the chance during 'The Rising' tour.

The Springsteen family has experienced a lot of loss in recent years. Bruce's longtime friend Terry Magovern, who I think is the same Terry who is referenced in the song 'Backstreets', passsed away in 2007. Danny Federici died in 2008, and now Clarence in 2011.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 15:28:59 CEST 2011 from (63.88.115.195)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA
Web: My link

Subject: Clarence

go to the Clarence Web site- click on World premier of Who Do I Tihink I Am. Great sound


Entered at Mon Jun 20 14:50:11 CEST 2011 from (59.101.14.222)

Posted by:

dlew991

Subject: One of the remarkable things about Ringo Starr's All STarrs

is that you have three of the biggest hearts in showbiz: Clarence Clemons, Rick Danko and Billy Preston. Sadly, all have passed...


Entered at Mon Jun 20 12:06:31 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Nice post as well Carmen

He certainly was a beast. The double act Clarence had with Bruce with little Stevie and the others and all us Springsteen devotees laughing our plums off at their antics and simply purring at the mutual love and energy that you could almost see and feel flowing between them will live forever in the memory.

I've certainly not seen anything remotely as heartwarming as those two working in tandem to get the laughs. I clearly wasn't around for Vaudeville's finest but I doubt if anyone ever did it better than Bruce and the Big Man. In a way the music became almost an intrusion to their comedy routines.

God Bless you Clarence for the delights you've bestowed on us.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 11:56:12 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Beautiful post Bob

Bob, hope you don't mind, I've re-posted your touching and heartfelt homily on the other Liverpool football site I go on where there are quite a number of genuine Springsteen followers - all deeply saddened by the news of Clarence passing away. It's always that little bit more moving to hear from someone who was present when it all began and your words and insight were certainly appreciated.

They certainly stand repeating here.

""...Very, very sorry to hear the news last night.

In the early seventies Bruce Springsteen was the street kid who was working his ass off to realize his dream and every music fan in these parts lived his story with him. It was very clear early on that he and Clarence Clemons had a bond that went well beyond their music. Springsteen brought immeasureable energy to every performance and then Clarence stepped down on it even harder.

I wasn't at that particular show, Al. But we chased that band pretty good throughout the seventies and we saw one amazing performance after another. The atmosphere around those shows was something very special....and Clarence was integral musically and spiritually.

Clarence Clemons was a powerful musician and a great R & B horn man. He left us all with incredible musical memories. There is no way to put into words how much magic those guys created together. My mind goes back to the Tower Theater....Bruce's breakout show.....three thousand plus dancing in the aisles......and Clarence Clemons raising hell with that horn.

Rest in peace, Clarence Clemons. It was one hell of a run."....


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Posted by:

carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Bruce

Very big Bruce Fan. E Street Band is the 2nd best Band name in the history of band Names IMHO. 2 keyboards, a great drummer - do you think there was any influence? I always thought Bruce would have been a good addition to TLW. Backstreets is my favorite but he has so many great songs - his cataloge of songs ranks with the greats no doubt and Clarence was a beast. RIP Clarence.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 02:38:32 CEST 2011 from (72.64.3.146)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Hey guys! For those on facebook, love to hear your tales on THE BAND page. You all have some great tales to tell.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 00:50:51 CEST 2011 from (59.101.14.222)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Clarence ... Al Edge; band names

Very sad news indeed re: Clarence. For what it's worth, I think 'born to run' is quintessential,,,

Al edge: wow, thanks,! That's terrific!

Band names: I liked the Coors till I saw how it was spelled and how they sounded. Gram parsons and the like was a great name. Queen, the who, great names. Quite like the name 'fleet foxes' too.


Entered at Mon Jun 20 00:24:28 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: CSNY 1974 tour

No, it isn't great at all! I too have seen the bits that are on YouTube and I have to say it "sucks a big one".


Entered at Sun Jun 19 21:06:38 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Wembley 74

Tom Scott & The LA Express are not listed as having their own set, but they did. I think it was before Joni came onstage and joined them. I remember it as one of the stand outs of the day.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 21:00:49 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

Subject: Wembley 1974

Peter - I've seen a little bit of the CSNY Wembley footage on YouTube. I never gave it more than a glance though, and I think it's true that they didn't play that great. The Band's performance seems really great, even though they were also a little ragged. But I think the Band could make ragged and raw sound right, especially live. I watch the video for Hard Times (The Slop) / Just Another Whistle Stop very often. Love Garth's sax solo going into that rocker. A really great opener that was performed very rarely, captured on film. Very cool that you were there Peter.

It's cool to see Neil Young and Stephen Stills in the background during the footage of Garth's "Genetic Method". I know there is supposed to be an unreleased take of Neil's "White Line" (which showed up on Ragged Glory years later), recorded backstage at Wembley with Robbie and Neil on guitars. I REALLY hope that is included in Neil's "Archives Vol. 2".


Entered at Sun Jun 19 20:19:34 CEST 2011 from (74.108.27.233)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Clarence

So much at the heart of The E Street Band. I'll miss you Clarence, your music is in my head a lot. Bye :Big Man"


Entered at Sun Jun 19 19:41:09 CEST 2011 from (99.115.147.236)

Posted by:

Pat B

That footage is from the tribal Piece de Resistance boot. Last show of the 78 Tour as it is advertised. Unreal.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 19:16:14 CEST 2011 from (72.64.3.146)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!


Entered at Sun Jun 19 17:41:54 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Al, here is another clip from that same show. Great stuff.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 17:35:26 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks Al Edge

Enjoyed reading everybody's lists. Thanks for all the effort Al Edge.

There's a Scottish influence in my list. I remember the pride in Dundee with the success of the AWB white album, which I still play regularly. But I didn't know about Forever More until this GB. Thanks Peter.

I had to include a folk album because of the rich culture and great playing in that genre up here and chose Jock Tamson's Bairns.

John Martyn had to be there. Michelle chose as well.

And Michael Marra is at times described as our greatest songwriter. Yet the man in the street might not know him.

Just now I've had a day of playing the Byrds and could change my selection.

Looking forward to Paul Simon on Friday.


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Posted by:

bob w.

Subject: Clarence

Very, very sorry to hear the news last night.

In the early seventies Bruce Springsteen was the street kid who was working his ass off to realize his dream and every music fan in these parts lived his story with him. It was very clear early on that he and Clarence Clemons had a bond that went well beyond their music. Springsteen brought immeasureable energy to every performance and then Clarence stepped down on it even harder.

I wasn't at that particular show, Al. But we chased that band pretty good throughout the seventies and we saw one amazing performance after another. The atmosphere around those shows was something very special....and Clarence was integral musically and spiritually.

Clarence Clemons was a powerful musician and a great R & B horn man. He left us all with incredible musical memories. There is no way to put into words how much magic those guys created together. My mind goes back to the Tower Theater....Bruce's breakout show.....three thousand plus dancing in the aisles......and Clarence Clemons raising hell with that horn.

Rest in peace, Clarence Clemons. It was one hell of a run.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 16:48:49 CEST 2011 from (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Brian Wilson

I went to see Brian Wilson last night perform his Gershwin album and Beach Boy memories; at Massey Hall. I had heard he was doing the Gershwin album in the first half and the oldies in the second. Well! He and his incredible band came out and after saying, "Are you ready for some music", his drummer hit a few rim shots and they were into "Darlin'."

I have never heard so many Beach Boys songs done live in a long time. My favorite all time song is "Don't Worry Baby" and I have never seen it done live ever. It was amazing. Also "Add Some Music To Your Day" and "Sail on Sailor among others. An hour and twenty minutes of great memories. The second half of the show was from the Gershwin album that he admitted to being nervous about playing live. Nothing to worry about. I noticed the beautiful Taylor Mills was not with him. Don't know why; although I know she has done a couple of solo albums. 4 out of 4 stars for last night.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 16:11:36 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Clarence - the younger version

Jungleland filmed at Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ. 19-09-1978 (solo starts around the 4:02 mark)

You there Bob W?

Incredible.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 16:01:54 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Harold & The Beatles

As RtO says, The Beatles took off well before Radio Caroline or Harold Wilson. Wilson became Prime Minister in October 1964, two years into their chart career (7 official Parlophone singles, plus two Polydor reissues, not 6!) The Beatles rose during the premierships of Harold Macmillan and Sir Alec Douglas-Home. Wilson did later ask them round for tea and biscuits. Wilson then in 1967 sued The Move and their manager Tony Secunda after a "filthy postcard" was used to promote "Flowers in The Rain." Wilson won, and to this day every penny the record and song earns goes to the charity Wilson nominated in 1967. The contents of the postcard have been kept out of the press, even now, except it was a cartoon of a nude Wilson. I heard he was drawn in a compromising position with his secretary.

Caroline began at Easter 1964. Where Caroline was hugely influential was newer 60s bands, because you could buy radio play. The book by Status Quo I mentioned earlier “remembers” their manager buying Pictures Of Matchstick Men airplay, but it’s unlikely. Pirate Radio was effectively killed off by Radio One in August 1967, and the single was released in January 1968. Mind you, as Don Arden and others candidly describe in their books, you COULD pay for chart fixing, and effectively buy chart placings in New Musical Express … only in the #26 to #30 range, but that crucially got it on the monopoly that was Radio One and on the TV Top of The Pops. From there it had to sink or swim on its own merits.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 15:22:52 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Radio show tribute to Clarence

Some examples of the man's stunning musical legacy


Entered at Sun Jun 19 15:08:43 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: What we'll now be missing

Clarence at his finest


Entered at Sun Jun 19 14:41:15 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: For anyone interested

Don't really feel I should be posting mundane stuff on a sad day like this but just so it doesn't get too separated from the main lists here's a rundown on the individual selections that matched the generic GB list.

Clearly the implications are pretty meaningless as individual taste has no real barometer or judge - but I guess it's of some interest.

Number of individual selections that accord with cumulative GB top 20

P VINEY – 9

DLEW – 4

JED - 8

RTO – 6

FRED – 3

BEG – 9

MICHELLE – 9

Bill M – 3

BOB W – 4

DEB – 3

SM – 0

BRIAN SZ – 2

DAVID P – 4

ROGER – 7

TODD – 5

KEVIN -1

DUNC – 5

JD – 7

EMPTY NOW – 0

JOE J – 7

SIMON – 4

LANDMARK – 1

WESTIE – 1

JON LYNESS – 7

BOB F – 8

PAT B - 4


Entered at Sun Jun 19 14:30:05 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: The Big Fella RIP

The E Street rock. Utterly irreplaceable

As a complete and utter E Street devotee who has taken communion with Clarence on countless occasions along with so many other devotees such as myself I'm feeling very sad today about the big fella's passing.

But life goes on and I'm sure Bruce will mark this day - and, along with Stevie, his dearest friend - with typical determination to keep the show on the road just as he did after dear Danny Federici passed away.

Your Jungleland solo will shine as long as music itself Clarence. No musician can hope for more than that.

:-0(


Entered at Sun Jun 19 14:30:32 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Empty Now

I haven't read your linked piece as I am just going out for Sunday lunch with the folks, but I shall later. But my gut reaction is "bollocks!" mainly on the basis that there were two albums and six singles released by the Beatles before Radio Caroline was off the drawing board... Had we been talking about a lesser known, smaller grossing act (Spencer Davis, Move, even Yardbirds) I could believe it though...


Entered at Sun Jun 19 14:23:39 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: The Big Man / Jayhawks (Roger)

Very sad indeed. After the earlier death of Federici (a fine Hammondist who like a few other favourites doggedly eschewed jazz in his style) that surely IS the end of the E-Street band now, eh?

Roger, I am embarrassed to admit that I hadn't spotted the jayhawks were coming over. Rumour has it that the "proper" line up is back together, so will definitely check that out and see! The sad thing (my problem; not theirs) is that after Hollywood Town Hall, I didn't think they came close again. The single "Blue" and following album "Tomorrow The Green Grass" didn't do it for me at all. But that was a long time ago; I'd probably love it if I heard it again.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 13:30:25 CEST 2011 from (41.97.150.111)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

some very serious studies claim that The Beatles are the pure and natural product of Harold Wilson's policy and Radio Caroline


Entered at Sun Jun 19 13:13:46 CEST 2011 from (68.199.152.229)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Al Edge--lists

very cool--thanks for putting it all together!


Entered at Sun Jun 19 13:01:29 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Very sorry to hear about Clarence Clemons.

Link is to the Wembley 74 pages with setlists. Adam, I never picked up a copy of CSNY at Wembley. Does it confirm my memory? I recall them as by no means stellar. They each did solo turns. To my recall, Graham Nash (who I'm nor particularly a fan of) was easily the best solo spot.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 11:16:43 CEST 2011 from (86.171.100.173)

Posted by:

Roger

Subject: The Jayhawks

And RTO - will you catch them this summer?


Entered at Sun Jun 19 10:07:54 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Al's 20 / rock bios

I hadn't thought. Just re-looked. I have the lot. Not one I regret having either.

I was looking at a hardback copy of the Status Quo autobiography, 'X-cess al Areas" in a secondhand store … it looked new, it was £1, and the two pages I read were interesting on having late 60s hits, so I picked it up to leaf through, and found myself reading it. I don't even own a Status Quo record. What interested me was the way they put it together. Francis Rossi and Rick Parfitt write alternate chapters telling the same story from their point of view. That's what makes it interesting, the repetition of basic facts, from a different viewpoint, plus the sense of humour that got them to call their last album "In Search of the Fourth Chord." It's been done in novels, but I think the device is a first for a rock band autobiography. It works.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 10:01:46 CEST 2011 from (79.202.158.82)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: the big man

"'Whenever somebody says your name, a smile comes to their face.' That's a great accolade. I strive to keep it that way"

that's it, thanks.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 04:49:09 CEST 2011 from (74.118.207.165)

Posted by:

glenn t

Subject: big man

fare thee well, clarence clemons...thanks for all you gave through your music. condolences to your family and to the e street band. i can't believe this news.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 04:32:56 CEST 2011 from (99.235.255.183)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Clarence Clemons

RIP, dear Clarence Clemons. Now the angels will have the pleasure of your beautiful saxaphone.

xoxoxo


Entered at Sun Jun 19 03:11:02 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Lists

Link is to Johnny's 'Port of Lonely Hearts'. That album, "Now Here's Johnny Cash" , belongs on any list ever made.

Thinking of you Jeff.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 03:08:01 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

The CSNY Wembley '74 DVD has been around for a long time as a bootleg, though CSNY have always said how bad they thought their performance was that day. No other footage (outside of A Musical History) has ever surfaced of The Band. The credits to AMH say "courtesy of Robbie Robertson" for those tracks, so I'd assume Robbie has the footage in the archives. There is an audience recording of The Band's Wembley set, but it is awful sounding and unlistenable. There is a wonderful sounding audience recording (Jerry Moore's) of The Band's set at Nassau Coliseum, a couple of weeks before the Wembley set. Performance and sound are wonderful on that.

The "official" unofficial Rick Danko live releases still seem a little shoddy. I'm getting tired of seeing "Rick Danko & Richard Manuel - 1989" listed on sites. Obviously Richard had passed away by that date. March 1989 was a show Rick did with Jorma Kaukonen, which exists in a pristine soundboard recording. Again, it seems like the company is just taking easily available soundboard bootlegs and releasing them.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 01:31:28 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: catch a fire

No Peter, no deluxe, I have the 2001 reissue of the original w Perkins/Bundrick plus two bonus tracks from same sessions.. I'd heard 'High Tide and Low Tide' before by a couple local reggae artists and I used to have a download of Ben Harper & Jack Johnson doing a very laid back version. It's kind of like Dylan leaving a 'Blind Willie McTell' off an album eh?

You know, re Al's lists, I had 19 of 20 of the GB's favourites. Exception was "Feats Don't Fail Me Now". I do have five Little Feat albums including the just discovered debut album but not that one. It'll be ordered tonight mail strike or no.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 01:02:39 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Wembley 74

Record Collector is advertising a DVD of CSNY at Wembley 74. Same show as Th Band … so does the complete Band set exist?

Also Danko / Manuel 25 March 1989 and Danko & Friends, Iron Horse, 1995.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 00:37:02 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Max Bruch Violin Concerto

Roger's choice. I was given this in early 1971by a good friend after playing her American Beauty and Hot Rats. She said 'This is WAY further out.' She was right.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 00:21:57 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Al, no Robbie fan would object to Blonde on Blonde in third place. He's all over it, just we shift to guitar playing.


Entered at Sun Jun 19 00:06:31 CEST 2011 from (24.108.12.129)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: AL

Jesus H Christ! That's a hell of a gap of time you found. That has to be the longest post ever. But interesting.


Entered at Sat Jun 18 23:00:32 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Alternate list

I was asked by a mate the other day the make a "five favourite records that NORMAL people of my age would buy"!!! Cheek.

HIGH LLAMAS - Gideon Gaye (If you've never heard this, it is a real treat - perfect arrangements and lovely warm, classic instrumental "sounds" throughout).

JAYHAWKS - Hollywood Town Hall (I discovered that you could play irreverant country rock with a fuzztone thanks to this LP).

AUTEURS - New Wave (Absolutely the only UK pop LP from the Brit Pop era worth owning IMO. Main man Luke Haines, a troubled and enticingly arrogant character explains why in his autobio).

MOTHER EARTH (UK) - People Tree (I was slap bang the right age for all that Acid Jazz period; liked all the Hammond and wah-wah side but never liked the break beat and rap elements that a lot of the players were trying to fuse into it. Decided to beat a hasty retreat to the safety of the first four Santana albums and have done with it after a while!).

WILCO - A Ghost is Born (worth it just for "Theologians" which indeed is why I bought it).



Entered at Sat Jun 18 22:29:19 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Al's chart

Yes, SF in third place would have been nice but at least it wasn't Blood on the (poxy) Tracks that kept it away!


Entered at Sat Jun 18 21:22:16 CEST 2011 from (86.171.100.173)

Posted by:

Roger

Location: UK

Nice one Al, well done that man....


Entered at Sat Jun 18 20:52:13 CEST 2011 from (41.97.138.70)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Al Edge : my list

1st best favorite Rock album ever - Kansas : Point Of Know Return

Sorry i thought i didnt have to say it


Entered at Sat Jun 18 20:26:00 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Feckin Lists -

Been a bit tied up but finally found a gap to compile the GB’s CUMULATIVE top 20 albums.

The points totals are based on 20 points for a top choice down to 1 point for bottom choice.

I’ve posted all the individual choices as well, so you can see from some of the postings that the final list can only ever be at best a reasonable representation – not a definitively accurate list, especially as some folks limited their choices to one album per artist whilst others were not definitive. Still, I think I’ve got the final order about right, though the final few were pretty close so anyone who’s a bit precious about their choice not figuring might wish to give me a bit of grief.

All in all I think it makes good fun to view it. Certainly better than a smacked arse. :-0)

Also I really do think it’s a pretty damn fine list all told. Some amazing music on it

For the definitive BAND website, the final GB selection of the top 2 is hardly surprising but Pete Viney , Rob and a few more will no doubt be a trifle disappointed that Stagefright couldn’t budge dear old Bob into a top 3 place.

All told as I see it there are few in the way of real surprises [perhaps others disagree :-0)] in the CUMULATIVE list, but I think some of the individual lists really do make for fascinating reading – especially SM’s list. ;-0)

Seriously, some of the “recommendations” are well worth looking into – as I’ve already done myself with one or two. Also, it’s fascinating seeing how the musical taste buds of each GBer tend to work.

Anyroad here it is:-

1] 391 points - The Band – Brown Album

2] 317 points – The Band – Big Pink

3] 182 points - Bob Dylan – Blonde on Blonde

4] 158 points – Bob Dylan – Highway 61

5] 126 points – The Band – Stagefright

6] 96 points – Van the man – Astral Weeks [yippee]

7] 83 points – The Beatles - Revolver

8] 72 points – Bob Dylan – Blood on the Tracks

9] 69 points – The Beatles – Abbey Road

10] 67 points – Rolling Stones – Exile on Main Street

11] 64 points – Bob Dylan – Bringing it All Back Home

12] 63 points – The Beatles – Rubber Soul

13] 47 points – Bob Dylan & The Band – Basement Tapes

14] 45 points – The Wailers/Bob Marley – Catch A Fire

15] 43 points – Joni Mitchell – Blue

16] 40 points – Marvin Gaye – What’s Going On [- you might well ask Marvin, lad]

17] 39 points – The Band – Rock of Ages

18] 38 points – Rolling Stones – Let it Bleed

19] 33 points – Little Feat – Feats Don’t Fail Me Now

20] 31 points – Bruce Springsteen – Born to Run

AND HERE THEY ARE IN ALL THEIR GLORY

P.VINEY

1) The Band: The Band

2) Blonde on Blonde: Bob Dylan

3) Magical Mystery Tour (US version): The Beatles

4) What’s Going On: Marvin Gaye

5) Beautiful Vision – Van Morrison

6) Catch A Fire – The Wailers (Al, no Bob on the sleeve, that’s what an original copy says, anyway!)

7) Stage Fright – The Band

8) Abbey Road – The Beatles

9) Graceland – Paul Simon

10) Surf’s Up – The Beach Boys

11) Astral Weeks – Van Morrison

12) Let It Bleed – The Rolling Stones

13) Street Legal – Bob Dylan

14) Music From Big Pink – The Band

15) Otis Blue- Otis Redding

16) Eddie Cochran Memorial Album – Eddie Cochran

17) The Golden Hits of The Everly Brothers – Everly Brothers (1st Warner Bros compilation)

18) Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band – The Beatles

19) Hearts & Bones – Paul Simon

20) Recall The Beginning – Steve Miller Band

DLEW

The Band: The Band

MFBP: The band

Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy: Elton John

Innervisions: Stevie Wonder

Aqualung: Jethro Tull

Thick as a Brick: Jethro Tull

Night at the Opera: Queen

Led Zeppelin III

Live 75-85: Bruce Springsteen adn the E Street Band

shotgun willie: willie nelson

Highway 61: Dylan

Exile on Main Street: the rolling Stones

Who's Next: The Who

My Aim is True: Elvis Costello

Man arriving too late to save a sinking ship/ The Man from Utiopia: Frank Zappa

John Wesley Harding; Bob Dylan

Dirt Farmer: Levon Helm

Tonic for the Troops: Teh Boomtown Rats

Romantic Warrior: Return to Forever

JED

1.Dylan/Band-Basement Tapes

2.Band-MFBP

3.Beatles-Abbey Road

4.Beatles-Revolver

5.Band-Rock of Ages

6.Derek & the Dominos-Layla

7.Dylan-Blond on Blond

8.Dylan-Blood on the Tracks

9.Dylan-Time Out Of Mind

10.Gregg Allman-Laid Back

11.CSNY-Deja Vu

12.Neil Young-Tonite's the Night

13.Hendrix-Blues Album

14.Hendrix- Electric Ladyland

15.Grateful Dead-Europe '72

16.Cream-Disraeli Gears

17.George Harrison-All Things Must Pass

18.John Lennon-Imagine

19.Rolling Stones- Exile on Main Street

20.AllmanBrothers Band-Live @ Fillmore East

RTO

BAND: MFBP, THE BAND, STAGE FRIGHT (3); In no specific preference – the mighty triumvirate presented as a whole.

BEATLES: ABBEY ROAD, RUBBER SOUL, REVOLVER, LET IT BE (7); Abbey Road is favourite; wouldn’t like to order the rest! As well as the Fabs own undoubted genius; the organist in me pines for the late Billy Preston – IMHO the greatest Hammond player who ever lived and is ever likely to!

FRANK ZAPPA: HOT RATS (8); Absolutely Free would probably be next, but one Frank disc for a 20 album desert island scenario would be enough and it would have to be this, as much for “Peaches” as, of course, “Willie The Pimp” which also represents the good Captain and explains the absence of Trout M R here.

GRATEFUL DEAD: GD (1ST), AOXOMOXOA, AMERICAN BEAUTY, EUROPE 72 (12); To be honest could find 10-12 GD LPs but that would make the list boring!

BRINSLEY SCHWARZ: SILVER PISTOL (13); It’s a tough call between this and “Despite It All” the preceded it and “Nervous On The Road” that followed; Silver Pistol is the strongest of you take individual favourite moments away.

JEFFERSON AIRPLANE: AFTER BATHING AT BAXTERS (14); Or possibly “Bless Its Pointed Little Head”? No, “Baxters” it is!

HOT TUNA: BURGERS (15); The first proper all-electric, full-band studio venture and so much more rewarding than the last few JA releases.

TRAFFIC: TRAFFIC (2ND LP) (16); A life changer for me; when this one started to get played more than other UK heavyweights (Cream, Stones, JH Exp) I realised it was the Hammond that had captivated me. Have had a bad back ever since.

MAN: BE GOOD TO YOURSELF AT LEAST ONCE A DAY (17); The UK’s nearest equivalent to a Frisco-style act, this ’72 studio effort saw them at their lightest, trippiest and best. RIP Micky Jones (guitar) and thanks for some great gigs. The nearest I ever got to supporting a football team!

STEVE MILLER BAND: SAILOR (18); From the opening foghorns to the closing notes of “Living In The USA”; the opening side of this second album is damn near perfection. Not that side two is exactly shoddy….

GRAHAM PARKER & THE RUMOUR: HEAT TREATMENT (19); GP’s second offering and a close call between this and “Stick To Me” that followed; edged by the stellar instrumental work of Brinsley & Bob on “That’s What They All Say” where instrumental muscle is most definitely flexed in a way never possible in Brinsley Schwarz days.

SHEL SILVERSTEIN: FREAKIN’ AT THE FREAKERS’ BALL (20); Yes, an oddball – but what’s not to love? The cover alone shows possibly the most chaotic assortment of people crowded round the piano just to get you interested, and then the treats of “Thumbsucker”, “I Got Stoned and I Missed It” and the wonderful title track among other moments. A deceptively frequent listen in my house!

FRED

The Band --The Band

Quadrophenia -- The Who

Feats Don't Fail Me Now -- Little Feat

Thanks I'll Eat It Here -- Lowell George

Sg.t Pepper's -- The Beatles

Black Sea -- XTC

English Settlement -- XTC

London Calling -- The Clash

Led Zeppelin IV -- Led Zeppelin

The Cars -- The Cars

Regatta De Blanc -- The Police

Party of One -- Nick Lowe

Cafe' Bleu -- The Style Council

Album III -- Loudon Wainwright III

Flood -- They Might Be Giants

Document -- R.E.M.

Crime of the Century -- Supertramp

The Joshua Tree -- U2

The Stranger -- Billy Joel

Let It Bleed -- Rolling Stones

BEG

Bob Marley...All Recordings - [ assumed Catch a Fire]

Robbie Robertson...Contact From The Underworld of Redboy

The Band...Music From Big Pink

The Band...Stage Fright

The Band...Brown Album

Garland Jeffreys...Ghostwriter

Mink DeVille...Cabretta

Van Morrison...Astral Weeks

Van Morrison...Into The Music

Van Morrison...Poetic Champions

Bob Dylan...Bringing It All Back Home

Bob Dylan...Highway 61 Bob Dylan...Blonde On Blonde

Bob Dylan...Blood On The Tracks

Bob Dylan...Desire

Bob Dylan...Slow Train Coming

Lou Reed...The Velvet Underground and Nico

Lou Reed...Rock and Roll Animal

Joni Mitchell...Court and Spark

Amy Winehouse...Back To Black Deluxe Edition

MICHELLE

1. Highway 61 - Bob Dylan

2.Music from Big Pink - The Band

3.Exile on Main Street - The Rolling Stones

4.Blonde on Blonde - Bob Dylan

5.The Band - The Band

6.New Boots and Panties - Ian Dury

7.Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie

8.Solid Air - John Martyn

9. Kaya - Bob Marley

10. Blood on the Tracks - Bob Dylan

11.Armed Forces - Elvis Costello

12. Astral Weeks - Van Morrison

13. Closing Time - Tom Waits 1

4. London Calling - The Clash

15. Basement Tapes - The Band

16. Transformer - Lou Reed

17. Tupelo Honey - Van Morrison

18. Harlem River Blues - Justin Townes Earle

19. Catch a Fire - Bob Marley

20. Legend - Townes Van Zandt

BILL M

I would take two or three by our guys,

one by Spirit (12 Dreams),

one Moby Grape (first),

one Fred Eaglesmith (Tinderbox),

a Stones (Let it Bleed),

the first Rhinoceros,

Pearl,

Moondance,

Randy Newman's Sail Away,

the Chilliwack with Lonesome Mary,

the second Sly and Family Stone,

Funkadelic's America Eats its Young,

Crowbar's Bad Manors,

Cockburn's Nothing but a Burning Light,

Traffic's second,

Robbie's Music for the Native Americans

BOB W

The Band ---- The Band

Music From Big Pink ---- The Band

Astral Weeks ---- Van Morrison

Rubber Soul ---- The Beatles

Tumbleweed Connection ---- Elton John

Hunky Dory ---- David Bowie

Caravanserai ---- Santana

Bridge Over Troubled Water ---- Simon and Garfunkel

McCartney ---- McCartney

Little Village ---- Little Village

Now That I’ve Found You ---- Alison Krauss

Irish Heartbeat ---- Van Morrison and the Chieftains

Little Victories ---- Darden Smith

Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs ---- Derek and the Dominos

Songbird –--- Eva Cassidy

Late for the Sky ---- Jackson Browne

Get Your Leeds Lungs Out ---- Stones Boot

What a Crying Shame ---- The Mavericks

Psychoderelict (Abridged)---- Pete Townshend

2000 Year Old Man ---- Carl Reiner & Mel Brooks

SM

Anything by Simon and Garfunkel.

DEB

1. Music From Big Pink, the Band

2. Tupelo Honey, Van Morrison

3. Whiskey Before Breakfast, Norman Blake

4. Running on Empty, Jackson Browne

5. All Around Man, Lonnie Pitchford

6. Hard Again, Muddy Waters

7. Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town, Emmylou Harris

8. Mark Twang, John Hartford

9. High, Low and In Between, Townes Van Zandt

10. Where'd You Hide the Body, James Mc Murtry

11. The Houston Kid, Rodney Crowell

12. Dublin Blues, Guy Clark

13. Storyville, Robbie Robertson

14. Joshua Judges Ruth, Lyle Lovett

15. Blood on the Tracks, Bob Dylan

16. The River, Bruce Springsteen

17. All the Roadrunning, Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris 18. Wild Tchoupitoulas, Wild Tchoupitoulas

19. La Toussaint, Steve Riley and the Mamou Playboys

20. Red Headed Stranger, Willie Nelson

BRIAN SZ

1. Rock of Ages (remaster)

2. Stage Fright (remaster)

3. Yes, Yessongs

4. Jon Anderson, Olias of Sun Hillow

5. Robbie- Contact

6. Brian Setzer, Dirty Boogie

7. Pink Floyd, Wish You Were Here

8. Pink Floyd, Dark Side (i could live without Money)

9. John Mellencamp - Scarecrow

10. U2, Joshua Tree

11. U2 Achtung Baby

12. Evan Lurie, Selling Water by the Riverside

13. Dylan, Live 66

14. Dave Matthews Live at Fenway Park

15. Dave Matthews Big Whiskey

16. Ollabelle, Before This Time

17. Pearl Jam, Ten

18. Allison Krauss and Union Station Live

19. Kimm Rogers, Soundtrack of my Life

20. Kid Rock, Rock-n-Roll Jesus

DAVID P

(1)"The Band" -- The Band (Capitol green label "RL" pressing)

(2)"Live at the Fillmore East" -- Allman Brothers Band (Capricorn pink label)

(3)"Absolutely Free" -- The Mothers of Invention (Verve mono)

(4)"Aretha Now" -- Aretha Franklin (Atlantic)

(5)"2 Guitars Country Style" -- Speedy West & Jimmy Bryant (Capitol mono)

(6)"Portrait in Jazz" -- Bill Evans Trio (Riverside mono)

(7)"Sibelius Symphony No. 2" -- Sir John Barbirolli cond. The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra (Chesky)

(8)"Julie Is Her Name" -- Julie London (Liberty mono)

(9)"12 Songs" -- Randy Newman (Warner white label promo)

(10)"Dixie Chicken" -- Little Feat (Mobile Fidelity reissue

(11)"Blonde On Blonde" -- Dylan (Columbia mono)

(12)"Blood On The Tracks" -- Dylan (Columbia white label promo)

(13)"Surrealistic Pillow" -- Jefferson Airplane (RCA mono) (

14)"Moby Grape 69" -- Moby Grape (Columbia 360 stereo 1A pressing)

(15)"Very Extremely Dangerous" -- Eddie Hinton (Capricorn)

(16)"Music From Big Pink" -- The Band (Mobile Fidelity 1982 reissue)

(17)"Changes" -- Buddy Fite (Cyclone Records)

(18)"Way Out West" -- Sonny Rollins (Comtemporary Records mono)

(19)"Here's Little Richard" -- Richard Penniman (Specialty mono)

(20)"Beethoven Symphony No. 6 'Pastorale'" -- Bruno Walter cond. Columbia Symphony Orchestra (Columbia "6-eye" stereo)

ROGER

1. Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan

2. The Band - The Band

3. Blue - Joni Mitchell

4. Stage Fright - The Band

5. Rubber Soul - The Beatles

6. The Rolling Stones No. 2 - The Rolling Stones

7. Yo-Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone - Yo-Yo and Ennio

8. Blonde on Blonde - Bob Dylan

9. Fisherman's Blues - The Waterboys

10. Arthur - The Kinks

11. Hearts and Bones - Paul Simon

12. Live In London - Leonard Cohen

13. Do You Believe In Magic? - The Lovin' Spoonful

14. The Alamo - Original Soundtrack - Dmitri Tiomkin

15. In The Wind - Peter, Paul and Mary

16. The Ghost of Tom Joad - Bruce Springsteen

17. Astral Weeks - Van Morrison

18. Quiet Please - Nick Lowe

19. Bruch Violin Concerto - played by JItzhak Perlman

20. Live at the Troubador - Carole King and James Jaylor

TODD

1. The Band - The Band

2. Bringing It All Back Home - Bob Dylan

3. Revolver - The Beatles

4. I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You - Aretha Franklin

5. The Genius of Ray Charles - Ray Charles

6. The Great Otis Redding Sings Soul Ballads - Otis Redding

7. Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs - Derek And The Dominos

8. Exile On Main Street - Rolling Stones

9. Dirt Farmer - Levon Helm

10. Before This Time - Ollabelle

11. Hard Again - Muddy Waters

12. The River - Bruce Springsteen

13. King of The Delta Blues Singers - Robert Johnson

14. Moondance - Van Morrison

15. Being There - Wilco

16. Come Away With Me - Norah Jones

17. Heartbreaker - Ryan Adams

18. Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams

19. Bring The Family - John Hiatt

20. Reckoning - REM

KEVIN

1. “Anthology” – Chuck Berry ( the best “best of” of his - a 2 disc collection that is stunning )

2. “Arthur” – The Kinks

3. “Word of Mouth” – The Kinks

4. “The Band” - The Band

5. “Every Picture Tells A Story” – Rod Stewart

6. “Pleased to Meet Me” – The Replacements

7. “All for Nothing” – The Replacements

8. “The Sky is Crying” - Stevie Ray Vaughn

9. “Abraxas” – Santana ( Hearing “Samba Pa Ti” mid 70’s is the reason I picked up the guitar….)

10. “Love and Theft” – Bob Dylan

11. “Infidels” – Bob Dylan

12. “Before the Flood” – Bob Dylan & Band ( ridiculously underrated and a good way to get many great songs from both )

13. “Bootleg Vols 1-3” – Bob Dylan ( for the cuts left off “Infidels” and many unknown treats )

14. CCR – Best of CCR ( The green and gold one……………………..essential – at least for me )

15. “I’m Your Man” - L. Cohen

16. “Live Bullet” – Bob Seger ( the best live rock album of all time in my opinion )

17. .”Complete Greatest Hits” – Gordon Lightfoot ( by far the best of the many compilations he has out )

18. “Live at Ronnie Scott's" – Jeff Beck

19. “Hot Rocks” Rolling Stones

20. “1969-1974” – David Bowie

DUNC

The Band - TheBand

Music From Big Pink - The Band

NLSC - The Band

Blonde on Blonde - Dylan

The Basement Tapes -Dylan and the Band

Tell Tale Signs - Bob Dylan

A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles

Let it Be- The Beatles

Talking Book - Stevie Wonder

White Album - AWB

Comes A Time - Neil Young

Deja Vu - CSNY

Michael Marra with Mr McFall's Chamber

Solid Air - John Martyn

Grace and Danger -John Martyn

Exile on Main Street - Rolling Stones \

Car Wheels on a Gravel Road - Lucinda Williams

There Goes Rhymin Simon - Paul Simon

Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds

The Lasses Fashion - Jock Tamson's Bairns

JOHN. D’s

01. Beatles - Beatlemania( Canadian version of the American Meet The Beatles.)

02. The Band-The Band

03. Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

04. Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde

05. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited

06. Elton John - Tumbleweed Connection

07. Neil Young - After The Goldrush

08. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks

09. Joni Mitchell - Blue

10. Ry Cooder - Paradise and Lunch

11. Crosby Stills Nash - Crosby Still Nash (1st album)

12. Dan Penn - Do Right Man

13. Simon & Garfunkel - Parsley Sage Rosemary & Thyme

14. Mamas & Papas - History of Mamas & Papas

15. Johnny Rivers - Realization

16. Otis Redding - Live In Europe

17. Aretha Franklin - The Very Best of Aretha Franklin: The 60's

18. Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks

19. Fats Domino - Out of New Orleans (8 CD Set)

20. The Searchers - The Very Best of The Searchers

EMPTY NOW

5th best favorite Rock album ever – Jackson Browne : Running on Empty

4th best favorite Rock album ever – Crosby Stills Nash & Young : Four Way Street

3rd best favorite Rock album ever – Paul Simon : Live Rhymin'

2nd best favorite Rock album ever – The Blues Brothers movie soundtrack

1st best favorite Rock album ever - ??????????????????????????

JOE. J

1. MFBP (my most beloved recording)

2. Brown Album

3. Highway 61

4. Blonde on Blonde

5. Love & Theft

6. Moondance

7. Blue

8. Are You Experienced

9. What's Going On

10. Innervisions

11. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere

12. Tonights the Night (Young)

13. Never A Dull Moment

14. Layla

15. Summer Side of Life

16. Exile on Main Street (on one level I know that Beggars may be better but this is what I listen to more)

17. Shoot Out The Lights

18. Wrecking Ball

19. Being There

20. Paul Simon

SIMON

1) & 2) "The Band" and "Music From Big Pink"

3) & 4) "Jazz Track" and "Kind of Blue" - Miles Davis

5) "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" - Joni Mitchell

6) "Revolver" - The Beatles [I'd never try to claim any kind of original insight when it comes to the Beatles but is there an album of theirs that mentions death so frequently? "My advice for those who die / Died and was buried along with her name / Before I'm a dead old man / I know what it's like to be dead / It is not dying" Perhaps there's more but this marks it out as the truly lysergic album in their canon. Having to confront this reality, something that unites us all. Also it's an impolite sounding album and one that is perhaps great because of the compression and limiting applied, not despite it.]

7) "Let It Bleed" - The Rolling Stones [If compilations were allowed I wouldn't hesitate to pick Rolled Gold. Essential.]

8) "There It Is" - James Brown

9) "Electric Ladyland" - The Jimi Hendrix Experience [Always like what Bill Hicks said about the aliens dropping him off on earth "We'll pick you up in twenty-seven years. You show 'em how it's done, kid."]

10) "There's a Riot Goin' On" - Sly and the Family Stone

11) "Quadrophenia" - The Who [the remixed double CD released mid '90s. This is so much improved. An album that has gotten me through some tough times. Some of the greatest, most concise lyrics ever: "Why didn't I say what I mean / I should've split home at fifteen / There's a story that the grass is so green" and "I know I should fight / but my old man, he's really alright"]

12) "Can't Buy a Thrill" - Steely Dan

13) "The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady" - Charlie Mingus

14) "Physical Graffiti" - Led Zeppelin [Side three of the original album is one of favourite sequences ever. The fact they annoy so many people makes me love them all the more. Julie, wherefore art thou?]

15) "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" - Pink Floyd

16) "album" - Public Image Ltd [What's that? You don't like the big 'eighties' drum sound? That'll be Tony Williams and Ginger Baker. John Lydon often tries to see things from the view of people who have been victims - Annalisa, Poptones and, in this case, Rise - one of the reasons I love the guy. "Logic is lost in your/Cranial abattoir" Know what you mean, John]

17) "Morrison Hotel" - The Doors [Yes, you read that right. BTW where's Dylan?]

18) "You Are What You Is" - Frank Zappa [Reagan era satire that targets yuppies, joggers, Deadheads and much more.]

19) "In the Right Place" - Dr John [I considered Gris-Gris because it's so unique ... I also wanted to include Fire on the Bayou by The Meters. This is a nice compromise. "Life" is a beautiful song. A tip of the brim to Deb for The Wild Tchoupitoulas. I'll always regret not buying that one when it was in print.]

20) "Popular Classics for Spanish Guitar" - Julian Bream

LANDMARK

1) Holland-Beach Boys,

2) Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere-Neil Young and Crazy Horse,

3) The Band-The Band,

4) Something/Anything-Todd Rundgren

5) C.S.N.Y.-Deja Vu.

WESTCOASTER

After All This Time - - Norm Jones

Eagles - - Greatest Hits

Honky Tonk Heroes - - Waylon

Merle Haggard - Collectors Editon

Stacked Deck - Too Stuffed to Jump - - Amazing Rythm Aces

Brown Album - - The BAND

Tupelo Honey - - Van Morrison

Premonition - - John Fogerty

Brothers In Arms - - Dire Straits

Chuck Berry - Definitive Collection

Neil Young - - Greatest Hits

Best of the BAND

Jimmy Buffet - - Songs You Know By Heart

Mark Knopfler & Emmylou Harris - All The Road Running

Boz Skaggs - - Silk Degrees

Best of Ed Bruce

St Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

Born in The USA - - Springsteen

JON LYNESS

The Band – Music from Big Pink

The Band – The Band

The Band – Stage Fright

Bob Dylan – Modern Times

Bob Dylan – Blonde on Blonde

Bob Dylan – Highway 61

Brian Wilson – Smile

The Beatles – The White Album

The Beatles – Abbey Road

Rolling Stones – Exile on Main Street

John Hammond – Wicked Grin

Levon Helm – Dirt Farmer

Lucinda Williams – Car Wheels on a Gravel Road

Bobby Charles – Bobby Charles

Hem -- Rabbit Songs The Waifs – SunDirtWater

Eric Andersen – You Can’t Relive the Past

Gillian Welch – Revival

Squirrel Nut Zippers – Hell

Buena Vista Social Club -- Buena Vista Social Club

BOB F

1. Blood on the Tracks - Bob Dylan

2. Blonde on Blonde - Bob Dylan

3. Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan

4. Bringing It All Back Home - Bob Dylan

5. Born to Run - Bruce Springsteen

6. The Band (Brown) - The Band

7. Music From Big Pink - The Band

8. Eli & The Thirteenth Confession - Laura Nyro

9. Darkness on the Edge of Town - Bruce Springsteen

10.Every Picture Tells a Story - Rod Stewart

11.Fisherman's Blues - The Waterboys

12.The White Album - The Beatles

13.Sticky Fingers - The Rolling Stones

14.Horses - Patti Smith

15.Stage Fright - The Band

16.Time Out of Mind - Bob Dylan

17.New York Tendaberry - Laura Nyro

18.Nebraska - Bruce Springsteen

19.Not a Pretty Girl - Ani Difranco

20.John Wesley Harding - Bob Dylan

PAT B

Miles Davis-In A Silent Way

Leonard Bernstein-Rhapsody in Blue/American In Paris

Bill Evans-Live At The Village Vanguard

Weather Report-Black Market

Jon Langford-Goldbrick

Little Feat-Feats Don't Fail me Now

The Band-MFBP

Aaron Copland-Columbia Collected Works (Appalachian Spring/Rodeo) Van Morrison-St. Dominic's Preview

Tears For Fears-Sowing The Seeds of Love

Tomita-Snowflakes Are Dancing

Pat Metheny-PMG

Jethro Tull-Stand Up

Beatles-Rubber Soul

The Rascals-Groovin'

Marvin Gaye-What's Goin On

Annie Lennox-Medusa

Nuggets-Vol. 1

Bob Dylan-Highway 61 Revisited

Robbie Robertson-Storyville AL Edges

Joint 1] The Band – The Band and Astral Weeks - Van Morrison [both quality A+]

3] Music from Big Pink – The Band [A]

4] Highway 61 Revisited – Bob Dylan [A]

5] Revolver – Beatles [A]

6] Darkness on the Edge of Town – Bruce Springsteen [A]

7] Born to Run – Bruce Springsteen [A]

8] Blonde on Blonde – Bob Dylan [A]

9] Tunnel of Love – Bruce Springsteen [A-]

10] Murmur – REM [A-]

11] There’s a Riot Going On – Sly and Family Stone [A-]

12] 12 Songs – Randy Newman [A-]

13] Catch a Fire – Bob Marley and Wailers [A-]

14] Abbey Road – Beatles [A-]

15] Swordfishtrombones – Tom Waits [A-]

16] Basement tapes – Bob Dylan/Band [A-]

17] Stand – Sly and Family Stone [A-]

18] Exile on Main Street – Rolling Stones [A-]

19] Talking Book – Stevie Wonder [A-]

20] Fantastic Expedition – Gene Clark and Doug Dillard [A-]


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Norbert

Subject: Steve

Joan, I know what you mean. Steve first wasn't a friend of mine first, later I liked him, and now I miss him too.


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Harper video

Perhaps they can get a permanent group together "Steven Harper and the Crypto-Fascists". Its at times like these that I really miss Steve.


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Music works for me,

I love the Band like my brother but Van Morrison sets my mind at ease the best. Play Remind Me of You and I get tears in my eyes. I see rural France as I just bought my house there, on top of the world, driving back to Holland on a Saturday evening, in July around 7 pm. windows wide open, people in their Sunday dress, drinking a glass of wine outside, waiting for dinner, Van in the CD player, corn fields, ….. no money in the world can beat that …. take that rat racers!


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: therapy tidbits: The Band and your body,

Just heart from my music therapist that TLW if often used to hoist the state of mind. Another confirmation that we’re definitely not a rare curious bunch of curious people over here.


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Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Perfect equilibrium and balance? Suffice to say you've never met my sister, who's birthday is today. If nothing else, I'm sure that this is definitely in the running for best laugh I have all day. Cheers!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Catch-A-Fire

Good move. You have the deluxe edition then, with the unreleased original Jamaican album (with High Tide or Low Tide) as well as the released Island album which omitted it. Coming to it fresh, how do you compare the two? The released album is so deep in my consciousness that I prefer it.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: born on this day

An easy arithmetic shows that people born today must have their date of fertilization around 21th September

you know, the autumnal equinox, which is considered as the First day of the new year in all calendars, excepted the Gregorian calendar,

indeed people who are conceived by the autumnal equinox night embody the absolute equilibrium, the perfect balance

You say it's your birthday
It's my birthday too, yeah
They say it's your birthday
We're gonna have a good time
I'm glad it's your birthday
Happy birthday to you.


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Posted by:

David P

Bill M: Yes, Kevin Kelley played with The Rising Sons. Prior to the group's signing with Columbia, he replaced drummer Ed Cassidy, who shortly thereafter joined Spirit.


Entered at Fri Jun 17 20:17:11 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Speaking of Ry. We were weren't we? Thanks for the link to Wolfgangs Vault and 19 year old Jackie DeShannon backed up by 16 year old Ry. That link may have come from elsewhere actually but it's well worth searching for.

Album of the day: 'Catch A Fire' by the Wailers. I don't have a big reggae collection and I had never heard this one. It turned up on a few peoples 'Top Lists' a while back so I ordered it. I got it day before yesterday, last mail before the strike, and, as I tend to do, have been playing it over and over. Noteworthy are a couple Peter Tosh vocals and the original of "High Tide & Low Tide" of which I'd only heard covers before.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: is it Corneal or is it Kelley?

Charlie Y: Thanks for IDing the drummer on the Byrds' version of "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" (or at least narrowing it down to two). Do you or David P have enough knowledge of either Jon or Kevin's body of work to guess which played on that song? I was thinking that the drummer made as if to sound like Richard did on Basement Tapes he'd heard, but maybe that's what he sounded like all the time. Didn't Kelley spend time in the Rising Sons with Taj and Ry (see posts last week?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

…and for those not following our politics that closely, sadavid was describing our PM as a crypto fascist not Sir Mick……..Cobain blew his brains out when he realized he was playing mostly for the same people that beat him up in high school……….Rush might be the only popular band in the history of music that still play for the exact same guys that they were and are – the fan base being 100% male nerdy but not really sucky………………meanwhile Ann Coulter is a Deadhead and that is still a rub for me that I am having a hard time getting over………………..other than the mandatory nut in the corner screaming “take a load of Fannie” – I can honestly say that I never met a bad sort in the 5 or 6 times I saw Rick Danko…………………Once stood beside a couple dressed identically head to toe but they were extremely pleasant……


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Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Can't wait for this guy to perform w/ Levon again soon. He's tapped to record @ Levon's in the near future & has Justin Guip lined up.


Entered at Fri Jun 17 16:09:11 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: from the land of the frozen hair

Bill M: everyone's a Beatles fan, that's neither here nor there (though I grant you the 'notorious.') . . . But a kind of theme emerges here . . . when a crypto-fascist can sing (pretty competently, he grudgingly added) "Jumpin' Jack Flash" and about gettin' high with a little help -- with not a trace of humour or any apparent recognition of the irony that's in it . . . .

And then (you want irony?) there's "The Seeker" - "people tend to hate me 'cause I never smile, as I ransack their homes, they wanna shake my hand."


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Is it pick up or pack up McGuinn?

I'm not sure whether it was Kevin Kelley or Jon Corneal who played drums on the Byrds' recording of "You Ain't Going Nowhere". It was one of the first songs recorded for "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" during the Nashville sessions in March 1968. And it was Lloyd Green, not JayDee Maness, who played the great pedal steel solos on "YAGN".

One can hear a live version of "YAGN" featuring Gene Parsons on drums, which was recently included on "The Byrds Live At Royal Albert Hall 1971" (available on CD or 2-LP set from Sundazed).


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

So I went to sadavid's link and started to listen - nice hook, then the guy started to sing - what voice is that? Then looking at the column of choices on the right, I saw Hundreth Meridian, it sounded vaguely familiar, so I clicked it. The picture that came up was the album/cd I had - Fully Completely I think it said. The song was wretched. IMO, terrible singer.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the Hip and immigration

Fred: That used to be the case immediately post Sept 11, when the thinking seemed to be that these foreign Hip-haters must mean us harm. Now things have loosened up to the extent that short-stay visas are issued as a matter of course. I suspect that the PM, a notorious Beatle fan with big hair and a bigger majority, will be inclined to grant landed immigrancy to such people, as long as they worship both the Fab Four and the Queen.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: muddy what's this river

. . . ah, one more before I give up casting pearls before philistinians . . . the Hip "Somewhere Down the Crazy."
If this 2-guitar riff doesn't lift you, check for vital signs . . . .


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Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Don't sweat it guys, girls. There's a few Canucks who don't quite get the Hip either. I understand they come across very well live. Some friends whose taste in music I take very seriously are members of the cult.

Speaking of cults, we've got Denis Parker (see video link) for our annual Blues Night at the Masonic Lodge, July 28. Denis is from London, England but has been playing his blues down here on the Rock some thirty plus years. Exceptionally generous with his time and talent, he has mentored generations of young musicians of all musical stripes.


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Posted by:

Peter M.

Location: the pond

Subject: Garniers

Brien Sz, I recently attended the Crawfishfest Zydeco in North NJ. Some of the reasons I came is that they were hosting Nathan Williams & the Zydeco Cha Chas, Geno Delafose & French Rockin' Boogie, George Porter & the Running Partners, Art Neville's band, and Cedric Watson & Bijou Creole. Saturday, as Cedric Watson was playing, the bass player (D'Jalma Garnier's) brother showed up to hear his brother play. None other than the illustrious Tony Garnier. I had a great time with him/them and Tony's family. Small world, eh?


Entered at Fri Jun 17 10:26:29 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Alan Edge...WHY...

are there shades of blue on Liverpool's away (or possibly 3rd) kit? Have your new owners gone fucking mad? Or is it some sly, cunning plot to trick the Toffees into buying these in order to fill up the coffers at LFC thus making quality signings over the summer a reality?


Entered at Fri Jun 17 07:39:44 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: If you don't like anything by The Tragically Hip...

you're not allowed to step foot onto Canadian soil. Ever.

: )


Entered at Fri Jun 17 06:15:18 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Forgot to mention, Rosch's main instruments are piano and organ. He plays plenty of harmonica, i've seen him play some pretty nasty guitar too.


Entered at Fri Jun 17 06:00:15 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Jonny Rosch & Friends ? in the UK

Some of the best live music I have heard in the last couple years has been by virtue of a guy named Jonny Rosch. Jonny is a long time fixture on the NYC music scene. A sought after session muscian and live performer, he is a likable guy.... likable enough to have been the musical director for Madison Square Garden for many years. if that was not exactly his title, it is close. Anway, Jonny plays Tuesday nights in a hole in the wall, for free. said hole in the wall has a greeat sound system, and 40 people would jam the room.

Jommy gets friends to come play. Great saxaphonist Dan Cipriano, is the only weekly mainstay with Jonny, but to give you an idea, one band that plays with Jonny & Dan every 5 to 6 weeks is Danny Kortchmar, Neil Jason, and SHawn Pelton.Another is Jeff Golub, Tony Garnier, and an amzing drummer. Henry Butler palyed a recent show. Jeff Pevar is a regular, as is Jon Tropea. The list goes on & on. JOnny is one of the vocalists is the Blues Brothers,when they tour these days. The other is Eddie Floyd. Honestly, Jonny;s vocals are not in that league, but, he is a strong singer, a world class msucian amongst world class musicians, a walking songbook, and a killer entertianer.Plus one funny muthafucka. Upon learning Jonny was doing these gigs I asked him if this completely solo or if he'll have a band. Tentatively the band is Elliot Randall, Andy Newmark, and Tony Garnier. Newmark and Rosch are very tight. For those of you who are interested, here is the show list (if you go, and it is completely solo, and you are bored to death, don' blame me)

Thursday 16th June

McCann's

62 Boston Road
London W7 3TR
020 8567 5348
(Train: Hanwell Rail Station/Boston Manor tube)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Friday 17th June

The Fox

Green Lane
Hanwell, UK W7 2PJ
020 8567 3912
(Train: Hanwell Rail Station/Boston Manor tube)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Saturday (afternoon) 18th June

Hanwell Carnival

Elthorne Park
Boston Manor Road
Train: Hanwell Rail Station/Boston Manor tube
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Saturday (evening) 18th June

Inn On The Green
(previously The Dolphin)
13 Lower Boston Road London W7 3TX –
020 8840 6789
Train: Hanwell Rail Station/Boston Manor tube


Entered at Fri Jun 17 01:59:08 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

Shoot Out In Chinatown is obviously a silly song, but musically it's very interesting. All of Cahoots is like that. I've been thinking about writing an article about it. For instance, that beautiful acapella vocal part near the end. Amazingly beautiful.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 23:27:54 CEST 2011 from (24.44.103.67)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: The tragedy of being un-hip

I bought a Tragically Hip cd years ago because they had this reputation of being unsung in the US but very popular in Canada. Why not I thought, lots of good bands go by never getting their due. To me, the cd lacked anything I would consider memorable. In fact, it was rather bland, bordering on boring. I tried selling it to a used cd shop. They wouldn't take it. Tragic..,


Entered at Thu Jun 16 22:28:15 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

….But “Queen” was a great name BEFORE you knew Freddie would switch to tight shorts, a tighter moustache, short hair and wear a dress in a video while doing the vacuuming…………”Tragically Hip” might well represent the weirdness of one Gord Downie but for a 15 year just getting into rock music in Brazil of North Africa or Illinois – the name is really not a good one at all – and I really do believe it has contributed to invisible international sales……….


Entered at Thu Jun 16 22:06:59 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: the mysterious Hip

I think "The Tragically Hip" is a great name, and reflects the band's sensibility (a little weird, a little word-play, a little self-deprecating) - really Gord Downie's sensibility, they're a bit like the Canuckistanian CCR in that the band is there to provide a setting for the front man & his oeuvre. Any band with two Gords was probably destined to succed in C'stan, and nowhere else . . . .

Downie's lyrics are a lot of fun, you're never sure exactly what's happening, but there are occasional flashes of lightning that show you bits of the mystery with complete clarity. Except, like life, even the clarity is ambiguous:

Sometimes, the faster it gets, the less you need to know
But you gotta remember, the smarter it gets, the further it's gonna go

Fingers and toes, fingers and toes, are forty things we share
Forty-one, if you include the fact that we don't care

Here's one with perhaps a bit more melody . . . the video is largely set in the lovely flatlands that begin around the 100th meridian -- for los yanquis, draw a line up thru Texas, OK, Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas . . . .


Entered at Thu Jun 16 21:55:13 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Peter…..See link of a few posts down……song called “Bobcaygeon”…….the other two songs of TH on my ipod are “Blow at High Dough” and “Nautical Disaster”


Entered at Thu Jun 16 21:23:55 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Kevin: I quite like Shoot Out in Chinatown, but I take the point. You can't judge a band by looking at its one track. The lyric quote led me to them. As you say, that track is pretty pedestrian musically. Suggest a better one melodically.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 21:01:38 CEST 2011 from (71.62.70.35)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: The Byrds' Version of "You Ain't Going Nowhere"

Bill: I dug out "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" since I didn't think Gene Parsons was with the band at that point (though the unrelated Gram Parsons was, of course). The two credited drummers on that album are Chris Hillman's cousin, Kevin Kelly, and Jon Corneal. I'm not sure which one was on that track, but I agree it shares that quirky Richard Manuel style.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 20:23:45 CEST 2011 from (77.30.79.172)

Posted by:

Andre van der Westhuzen

Location: South Africa

Subject: Great!!!

What a great find!

I have always been a "The Band" fan, so stumbling onto site was a great find.

Thanks!!


Entered at Thu Jun 16 19:39:59 CEST 2011 from (67.85.169.75)

Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Web: My link

Subject: Eilen Jewell

Just heard singer-songwriter Eilen Jewell on the NYC NPR station, doing some really well-crafted songs from her new (third) album, Queen of the Minor Key. Smart, kind of dark, modern country with great lyrics, good backing band, appealing voice and persona -- why haven't I heard of her before? If anyone here knows her earlier albums, do you have a recommendation?


Entered at Thu Jun 16 19:36:24 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Speaking of Richard, I noticed what I found to be a surprising instance of someone being influenced by his drumming, however temporarily. Check out Gene Parsons' (?) uncharacteristic work on the Byrds' "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere".


Entered at Thu Jun 16 19:13:19 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jupiter Hollow & MoFi

I've been playing around listening to the MoFi "NLSC" and am now really annoyed that I ordered Stage fright and NLSC but not RoA. The FedEx would have been the same for three as two.

Anyway, it's very hard to compare as SACD goes through my 5.1 system - designed for music too, with MK speakers including a bass speaker that can render proper bass guitar, not just bangs and crashes. The bass is massive through that. It sounds far more normal in my CD player and a basic stereo system with normal speakers. Both CD and SACD players make it sound superb. But you go to Jupiter Hollow on NLSC.

This is worth relistening to. It's a rare case of using twin drummers, Levon & Richard, resulting in Levon's feel and Richard's unusual feel together. No guitar either … twin keyboards. Well, Robbie on clavinette and Garth on a whole great bank of overlayed stuff. I've always loved it, but it's a very atypical track. It certainly shines in sound, but it always did.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 19:08:46 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

David P…….Yes….and another great name of a band that I know you liked and believe saw in their formative stages and I knew I would like just based on hearing the name was Lynyrd Skynyrd – took me years to spell this one correctly and I still have to double check!

Peter…….and Shootout in Chinatown isn’t The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down……. One has to listen to more than one song to get a feel for a band…….not to sing their praises as I own only one of their releases but they are a much better than average rock band with a very talented singer/lyricist………………100th Meridian is a pedestrian rocker with great lyric as Bill’s post demonstrated…….


Entered at Thu Jun 16 18:47:14 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Change the second E to A

Kevin J: Just as beetles became The Beatles, those small feets became Little Feat.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 18:32:39 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 100th Meridian

Never heard it before. But I can see why they haven't done well outside Canada.I didn't hear anything special or original there.

So many band names have been used now, some of them twice, that it's just trying to find a new combination of words. Many dredged the bottom, such as The Carnaby and The Uglys. The Chi-Lites was a silly name, but so many were. Gerry & The Pacemakers now sounds like a band formed in an Old Folk's Home (maybe they did in 1963, too!). Ronnie Hawkins and The Hawks is a tired and overdone category (Peter Jay & The Jaywalkers, Bob Miller & The Millermem. Brian Poole & The Tremeloes is a wet name.

I thought The Who a brilliant name at the time.Them was a good one. I also liked Yes when I first heard the name.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 18:24:14 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Kevin J: I've loved the name Simply Saucer since I first heard of / saw them in the '70s. Not just the name, but the thought-process that (I imagine) got them there. For different, if any, reasons, I also like the names chosen by Fairport Convention, Figgy Duff, Spirit, Chilliwack, the Remains, the Blue Shadows, Moby Grape and Sparkjiver.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 18:10:50 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Band Names

Off the top of my head……………

Too good to not overcome bad names…….The Beatles, The Police, The Who, Little Feet, The Jam

Great names/great bands……The Band, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, The Kinks

All time Names…….Sex Pistols, The Clash, Talking Heads, Drive-By-Truckers, Guns & Roses, Haircut 100


Entered at Thu Jun 16 18:03:57 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: At The Hundredth Meridian

Yes indeed Kevin J. The GB poster perhaps closest to 100th (in Canada anyway) has noted the cross-generational appeal of the Hip. I expect you'd find the album in more homes than, say, "Tapestry" or "Tubular Bells" in their heyday. For others, here's a link to the song.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 17:42:48 CEST 2011 from (70.53.60.250)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Great Lyrics

Tragically Hip……Bigger than the Beatles in Canada….can’t pull 150 people into a club anywhere else in the world…..one of the true mysteries of the rock world……………….Perhaps it was the horrible choice of band name or the lack of stick-to-it world touring like much lesser Canadian bands used to propel popularity…………………..the irony of all this is that their original manager ( crooked face for a laugh pollster/hipster turned CBC pundit Allan Gregg ) made waves when the Hip in the early 1980’s announced that they were too big to sign with “just a Canadian” record company and instead did a deal with a US based outfit…….rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and yet despite all of that they really have only ever been successful in Canada and nowhere else.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 16:54:27 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Taj reminds me of Ry, which reminds me of the following lines in a Tragically Hip classic that I was listening to yesterday:

"If I die of vanity, promise me, promise me
That if they bury me some place I don't want to be
That you'll dig me up and transport me, unceremoniously
Away from the swollen city breeze, garbage bag trees
Whispers of disease, and acts of enormity
And lower me slowly, sadly and properly
Get Ry Cooder to sing my eulogy
At the hundredth meridian
At the hundredth meridian
At the hundredth meridian where the great plains begin"


Entered at Thu Jun 16 16:08:50 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Bacon Fat

Garth & Robbie "borrowed" both the riff and the song title itself from Andre Williams. While Taj Mahal covered The Band version, Sir Douglas Quintet covered the original.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 14:50:48 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Peter V: Similar yes, but more annoying. Give Paul full marks for his clever use of "See how they run", as applied to both children and stockings.

RtO: Do you have Blackie and the Rodeo Kings' "Bark" album? I was listening to it the other day and was struck by Richard Bell's understated Garthistic playing on "Willie's Diamond Joe" - which is a beautiful song sung powerfully by Colin Linden. Great guitar too. Unfortunately, I canna find it on YouTube, but here's a very nice - and somewhat similar, if organ-free - version by some other top-drawer rootsers of the Canuckistani scene.


Entered at Thu Jun 16 08:18:26 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Bad Penny Blues, He's So Fine etc

I was chatting about unintentional copies with some friends, and the Lady Madonna / Bad Penny Blues one came up. Nowadays it's so easy to cross check with your free 30 seconds on iTunes store and with You Tube. This Humphrey Lyttelton hit from 1956 was engineered by Joe Meek, who distorted the piano left hand. See link to the 78 rpm version. The later live one sounds less like it, and the piano left hand part, and the double bass is generic trad jazz bass player to me. But it is pretty similar!


Entered at Thu Jun 16 02:50:57 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: PV / My wonderful evening out.

A 'right James' indeed. See also Antony and the (James)ing Johnsons.

To matters more (very) recent - had a wonderful evening tonight. Due to meet Mrs RTO at the Royal Festival Hall at 8:30pm, I thus took the train to Waterloo from Worcester Park station at 7:43. Arrived London Waterloo 8:10. Waterloo completely overrun with gorgeous, slightly tipsy middle and upper class ladies in their sexy Ascot hats and dresses on their way home from race day, showing just slightly too much leg. In the absence of Rachel Unthank clog-dancing, there's nothing quite like a leggy posh girl in an expensive and highly impractical hat. A great start.

Thence to the Royal Festival Hall to meet the loved, honoured and obeyed Mrs RTO. Entertained by my mentor and hero Nick Lowe, with great band including Geraint Watkins and cameo from Paul Carrack. A lovely night.

If all this wasn't enough, Worcester Park train on the board within three minutes of arriving back at Waterloo, and thus Mrs RTO and I found ourselves back in our local watering hole by 10:30pm for much deserved closing ales.

You've got to admit that for a Wednesday, that ain't bad going.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 22:45:11 CEST 2011 from (41.97.205.250)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Monterey Pop Festival 1967

on youtube, long duration video 1:15:25, good quality, in the link above

retrieve your timeless good vibration


Entered at Wed Jun 15 20:42:32 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Who's Richard Hawley? Sounds like a 'right James' to me.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 20:05:54 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: PV Mojo 60s Special

I'll look out for that. It'll be nice to own a recent edition of the magazine that hasn't got poxy Richard Hawley in it at all.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 16:07:08 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Garth Hudson and Andy Kim - together at last - TONIGHT!

Garth Hudson is among the performers at a Ron Sexsmith tribute concert tonight at Massey Hall in Toronto. See link for fuller roster.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 15:49:46 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Levon guests on two songs on David Bromberg's upcoming album "Use Me" (Appleseed), to be released next month (see link). Also collaborating with Mr. Bromberg are Dr. John, John Hiatt, Los Lobos, Linda Ronstadt, Vince Gill, Widespread Panic, Keb' Mo', Tim O'Brien and The Butcher Bros.

Thanks Simon for the link to Rob LoVerde's clarification regarding the "Stage Fright" mixes.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 12:57:55 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 66 Tour

The same Mojo 60s Special has a day-by-day account of the 66 UK tour consisting of quotes. As all the photos are B&W, it was news that at Manchester Free Trade Hall, The Hawks came on wearing velvet suits, in five different colours: maroon, purple, green, beige and blue.

Mickey Jones is always quotable. On Paris, with the huge US flag on stage he said:

(we were) dwarfed by the biggest American flag that I had ever seen. It made me and Bob very proud. (imagine a pause) The rest of the band was, of course, Canadian.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 11:53:26 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Cabin Essence

The Mojo 60s special edition out today has a 7" single included of The Beach Boys "Cabin Essence" - now spelled as two words. It must be the first 7" vinyl covermount disc for years (actually it's in a card pack, not on the cover). The B-side is "Wonderful" and these preview the release of "The Smile Sessions". It's on yellow vinyl, as were the last two Brian Wilson 7" singles ( from his re-recorded "Smile" album). Collectability? It's got a full "Brother" label rather than "Brother" as a shared logo.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 11:19:37 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Berk

These days, of course we have James Blunt. And boy, does the cap fit....


Entered at Wed Jun 15 09:53:25 CEST 2011 from (86.149.110.13)

Posted by:

Simon

Web: My link

Some comments from Rob LoVerde of Mobile Fidelity concerning their "Stage Fright" reissue.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 09:30:32 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Byrds Tribute Band CD

amazon just said the third or fourth 'delayed' notice, this time without a date on it. I'd suspect that the root is permissions. While you only need a couple of signatures for Rick and Richard, you're into a lot more for The Byrds Tribute Band. Incidentally, that line up has a spectacularly low survival rate.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 09:25:16 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Well, I'll be buggered! is an expression of mild surprise too. The language process is dilution of the power of words over time. So in Shakespeare "naughty" meant 'wicked.' Hang on, that's one that got reversed. So 'evil' then. Now 'naughty' is mild and applied to kids. I'd say bugger and sod long ago lost any real meaning. Compare 'jerk' which at its heart means 'jerk off', i.e. 'wanker.' Or 'berk' which originates in Cockney rhyming slang ('Berkeley hunt').

Apologies for repetition. I posted much the same a while (a few years?) ago.


Entered at Wed Jun 15 01:46:18 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Workingman's Sodomy...

Peter, maybe too much info IS a bad thing as you say... See also "I'm buggered if I know". If that isn't enough evidence that ignorance is indeed (for a straight man, at least) bliss, I'm not sure what else there is.


Entered at Tue Jun 14 20:03:27 CEST 2011 from (70.50.64.34)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Bill M: If you do make the journey through Cookstown……the 2nd hand record store is called All That Jazz I believe……..not a big selection but worth checking out as there is not much else on the main drag…………Most recommended is a superb Italian restaurant an exit or two before Cookstown in Bond Head called Poco Cappello…….

Todd: Thank you for tip on Ryan Adams……..See above link to an interview with the late great Jim Dickinson on the making of “Pleased to Meet Me”………I forget whether I had posted this before but thought you would enjoy it……….Just thinking that Westerberg is yet another case where the songwriter has never quite been able to get that spark back in his material without his bandmates

Straight Down the Line: I had recorded the performance but left town Thursday night……..watched it last night and agree with all that has been said – wonderful to see……………….Funny but every time I listen to the song now I can’t help thinking how surprising it was to learn that Carol Caffin had not seen “Double Indemnity”…………………………Picked up the “Deluxe” edition of HTBC while in Montreal (my original purchase in April had been the straight cd ) and not really much to the 6 demos other than a striking realization at how much HDLHNM was improved at final version and in “This is Where I get Off” the line “Somebody done me wrong along the way” had originally been “Somebody done you wrongt along the way”……….at least that’s what I think I heard……


Entered at Tue Jun 14 18:39:52 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY
Web: My link

Subject: The mic is on

Robbie sounds a little bit like Richard in this one.


Entered at Tue Jun 14 18:38:15 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: coincidence?

I fervently hope so.
Otherwise, a really disturbing prototype for "Daniel and the Sacred Harp."


Entered at Tue Jun 14 18:25:05 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: No Jam, No Cream

As Robertson once remonstrated Clapton, "We don't jam". Shortly afterwards, there was no more Cream, as Clapton quit the dairy business. :-)


Entered at Tue Jun 14 18:08:37 CEST 2011 from (41.97.185.5)

Posted by:

Empty Now

5 559 948 times viewed


Entered at Tue Jun 14 18:03:24 CEST 2011 from (41.97.185.5)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Sadavid

Thanks, i greatly appreciate, the performer is Irish but until your post 'and even after) the tune sounded rather Scandinavian in my ears

I dont know if you've heard Scarborough Fair by Celtic Woman ? worth the click on the kink above


Entered at Tue Jun 14 15:28:59 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: the straight dope

Empty: Google knows all: the song for Swedish horsies is a made-to-order traditional song made to order to take Eurovision '96. Lately covered by made-to-order (see Il Divo et al.) deep-roots group Celtic Woman. The real question is why an "Irish" tune for "Swedish" beasts of burden?

joe: "We don't jam." -- Robertson


Entered at Tue Jun 14 14:52:21 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jammy stuff

I just Googled and found myself out of date on the area of table preserves. Robertsons and Hartleys are now the same company, and in 2008, they stopped making Robertsons jams, but left the Robertsons brand on marmalades. So all the jams became Hartleys, and all the marmalades became Robertsons. A wise move as buyers of citrus preserves and buyers of soft fruit preserves clearly need to be separated.


Entered at Tue Jun 14 14:13:24 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Looks like a log jam

:-0)


Entered at Tue Jun 14 14:11:28 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Hartley's -v- Robertsons

Pete, by us the expression was always 'more jam than fuckin Hartleys' - especially when aimed at an opposing footballer or football team - the original Hartleys factory and village is in Walton, just round the corner.

That said, at home we always used to have Robertson's jam back in the day. I guess the lure of those incredible enamel gollywogs on offer was just too enticing and mums would bow to the onslaught of the kid's panderings, leaving Hartley's for grannies and spinsters.

:-0)

Hartley's certainly missed a trick with those gollywogs.


Entered at Tue Jun 14 14:09:38 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Hartley's -v- Robertsons

Pete, by us the expression was always 'more jam than Hartleys' - the original Hartleys factory and village is in Walton, just round the corner.

That said, we always used to have Robertson's jam back in the day. I guess the lure of those incredible enamel gollywogs on offer was just too enticing and mums would bow to the onslaught of the kid's panderings, leaving Hartley's for grannies and spinsters.

:-0)

Hartley's certainly missed a trick with those gollywogs.


Entered at Tue Jun 14 13:42:18 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Robertson's is the best-known British brand of jam (jelly?). They make strawberry jam, raspberry jam etc. They were best known for their controversial 'golliwog' character which they had to withdraw. In Britain, to be jammy is to be lucky, and I'd say there's a hint of 'undeservedly lucky.' It probably dates back to where the poor ate bread. The slightly better-off had butter on their bread, and the more comfortable had jam on it.

So if your dumb pal wins the lottery, you might say 'you jammy sod!' (that's friendly in the UK) or 'you jammy bugger' (also friendly … I don't know why the British use sodomy and buggery as friendly terms, and it's probably best not investigated too far.)


Entered at Tue Jun 14 13:24:23 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: The Jam

Translation please. An English tourist told me I "had more jam than Robertson's". Not sure how to take it. Do I have moxy or am I full of crap?


Entered at Tue Jun 14 12:16:30 CEST 2011 from (41.97.217.179)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: what is the correct size of a horseshoe ?

People who roam the Wallonie countryside for the first time have often their attention caught by the unusually huge size of the horseshoe hanging on the door of some cottages. The reason (of the horseshoe dimension) is natural, since the Ardennais draft horse is the most common breed in the region.

For those who hadn’t yet the luck to watch such a thing and in terms of vinyl disks, the size of the Ardennais horseshoe is to the size of common horseshoe what the 12” LP is to the 7” single, and there’s also the weight. As is universal the belief that a horseshoe brings good luck, heavy good luck for the present case

Following the topic, I randomly crossed the linked above video about the Scandinavian draft horse, instructive and beautiful

What justifies a post in The Band GB : Anybody recognizes the music in the video ?


Entered at Tue Jun 14 07:50:34 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: pressed cotton

In March of 2010 Cotton & David did do a Illinois Speed Press Reunion performance on a 5 day cruise.


Entered at Tue Jun 14 06:13:14 CEST 2011 from (99.235.255.183)

Posted by:

Serenity

Web: My link

Subject: Clarence Clemons Reportedly Showing Signs of Recovery

LINK: Follow-up on JTULL FAN'S link....

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo


Entered at Tue Jun 14 01:20:35 CEST 2011 from (99.115.147.236)

Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, maybe even a Rovin' Kind reunioPr


Entered at Tue Jun 14 00:21:53 CEST 2011 from (69.123.3.201)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley, NY

Subject: So Funny!

Al,that is so funny! Thanks!


Entered at Mon Jun 13 23:24:54 CEST 2011 from (204.138.58.96)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: If Poco's no longer deliverin' for Paul Cotton, then maybe Illinois Speed Press could? Kal David's still active.


Entered at Mon Jun 13 22:31:59 CEST 2011 from (68.164.4.187)

Posted by:

Pat B

Although I don't know all the facts (as one never does) I understand Paul Cotton left Poco when he couldn't resolve some ownership questions with Rusty Young. I believe Cotton said at the time of his departure that he had been asking Young for some kind of legal clarification of their business relationship for a very long time (decades?) and Young was not forthcoming.


Entered at Mon Jun 13 22:09:34 CEST 2011 from (70.28.32.74)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

That's a keeper!


Entered at Mon Jun 13 21:01:27 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Ha ha ha

John O'Reilly hoisted his beer and said, "Here's to spending the rest of me life, between the legs of me wife!"

That little spot of repartee won him the top prize at the pub for the best toast of the night!

So he went home and told his wife, Mary, "I won the prize for the Best toast of the night."

She said, "Oh aye, did ye now. And what was your toast?"

Scarcely blinking, John told her shamelessly. "Well, Mary, I said 'And here's to spending the rest of me life, sitting in church beside me beautiful wife."

"Oh, that is very very nice indeed, John!" Mary said.

"I'm really proud of you"

The next day, Mary ran into one of John's drinking buddies on the street corner.

The man chuckled leeringly and said, "Mary, did you know your John won the prize the other night at the pub with a toast about your goodself."

Mary looked at him and said, "Aye, I do know, he told me when he got home though I have to say I was a bit surprised myself. Do you know, he's only been in there twice in the last four years. Once he fell asleep, and the other time I had to pull him by the ears to make him come."


Entered at Mon Jun 13 17:11:01 CEST 2011 from (71.43.124.98)

Posted by:

Dan

Location: Orlando

Subject: Before The Flood- WolfGang's Vault

I heen listening to the January 14, 1974 Dylan-The Band performance at Boston Garden. The set is clearly superior to the Before the Flood recording at the LA Forum from February. It is almost criminal that the LA Forum recording was selected for the live release. There is a bounce to Richard Manuel's piano and his voice is there for King Harvest. The Dylan acoustic set is not rushed and the first electric set is great, albiet that Rainy Day Women is better in the Before the Flood version. Fans should check out the Madision Square Garden performance as well.


Entered at Mon Jun 13 17:07:25 CEST 2011 from (99.250.10.113)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: PutEmUp/Friend/Poco/Springfield (Again)

Put'Emup/Friend-No, I'm not a new poster, but have been away, and recently come back (both literally and figuratively)! Yes, it was surprising to hear that Paul Cotton had left Poco. I recall reading something that it had to do with an appearance at a festival last year and he was not happy with the contract, or that the band had agreed to do it. A big loss, but as you said, the group seems to carry on with Rusty being the mainstay. I wasn't aware they had a new record in the can. Interesting that they are now funding sessions by selling tickets!


Entered at Mon Jun 13 14:58:06 CEST 2011 from (217.5.150.254)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Web: My link

Clarence Clemons had a stroke. No word on his condition.


Entered at Mon Jun 13 14:20:41 CEST 2011 from (59.101.14.222)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: Have been lurking, mostly, to take half of Dorothy Parker...

Too f*ckin* busy... (google teh rest of that quote: it only refers to her, though...)

Thought I'd pipe in and thank Sebastian for his bits and pieces: glad you've found a congenial group! And hope your dad and you continue on the success you've both found. (and oh, for Robbie to appear at a Ramble with Garth... but wishful, optimistic thinking - that's all that is...)

Hi everyone else! I'll be back soon, if you can stand it. Or even if you can't...


Entered at Mon Jun 13 14:07:58 CEST 2011 from (41.97.233.206)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Norbert, The Band GB legends, Woodstock and Monterey Pop Festivals

Norbert wrote :

“This GB would be closed within a day, and only the archives would be available to look through for the mass and this GB would become a legend”

This deep ponder made me think of some serious posts lost in the others GBs. I remember a large passage from the book of Myra Friedman “Buried Alive, A biography of Janis Joplin”, which I once posted in Littlr Pink or in Norbert’s GB (I don’t recall). The fact is that I seriously needed it these days, this quote and most of Myra’s book are unavailable on the whole internet. I believe that for the Legendary population of The Band GB it should be a pre-required. Anyway I quote Myra Friedman who was a first eye witness of the Rock Pop saga:

“Woodstock 1969 was an artistic fiasco, which has been turned to a mediatic success”

And later in the same book:

"Never again was there a festival such as the one that took place that weekend of 1967. Never was there another event where over thirty rock groups were inflated by no more that the joy of an enraptured audience and the gorgeous pleasure of performance itself. There were eight, nine, ten times as many people running rock festivals taking place only two years later. There was never another Monterey! The weekend was too intoxicating, too radiant, too pure."

Indeed, I just cut this excerpt from some obscure page of the internet, mine in a former The Band GB was part of a much more complete and a much more passionate quotation



Entered at Sun Jun 12 22:33:38 CEST 2011 from (79.202.179.54)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Lars, it’s ok here if to have fun with the death ones :-), anyway isn't music great? (link)


Entered at Sun Jun 12 21:30:14 CEST 2011 from (86.143.61.240)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Robbie's new album

Finally got new album and am really enjoying Robbie's new work.


Entered at Sun Jun 12 20:47:16 CEST 2011 from (74.82.68.16)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Fret Sounds

Nice to see Robbie getting his performing groove back. Listening to the new MoFi SACD version of "Stage Fright", I'm really noticing how Robbie brought his guitar more to the forefront after laying back a bit on the first two albums. With so many great singers and instrumentalists in The Band it was a challenging balancing act to get the ensemble mixed just right. This was something that set them apart in an era of the dramatic antics of frontmen battling guitar heroes. With their nuanced dynamics, The Band truly played as a band of brothers, together in the pocket.


Entered at Sun Jun 12 16:01:22 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: NY

Subject: misc.

Norbert- I always wear a small 20" bar Stihl chain saw around my neck when I board a plane. Nobody ever says anything, so it's a date. The only thing is I only cut dead trees, I would never drop a live oak. The drinking and eating and singing part should be no problem.

I was told not to mention in advance that Garth would be playing with the Bush Brothers last night, because it wasn't a sure thing; also, the High Falls Cafe is always packed to the rafters and it didn't seem fair to try and get more people to come, just to have them stuck in the bar section and not see the show......well.....there were empty seats at the cafe last night, which hasn't happened in a long time. So, looking back, I guess we could have hyped the show up a bit more. The next show will be in late summer and I'll post it on this GB in advance.


Entered at Sun Jun 12 14:06:58 CEST 2011 from (79.202.168.110)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Isle of Wight festival 1/9/1969

Peter, thanks. I saw this one there also. John Lennon and Ringo where there it seems.

Just heard from my better half that next Sunday it's fathers day. Even better, I get spoiled two times in a rowe now. I love life.


Entered at Sun Jun 12 13:46:46 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Weight video 1969

Ian Woodward sent me this link to "The Weight" at the Isle of Wight 1969. Have we seen this before? I don't remember!


Entered at Sun Jun 12 12:27:13 CEST 2011 from (79.202.183.43)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Pfingsten, das liebliche Fest,

"Pentecost a time of greening and blooming in fields, woods, hills, mountains, bushes and hedges, of birds singing new songs, meadows sprouting fragrant flowers, and of festive sunshine gleaming from the skies and coloring the earth." (Goethe)

If in a Band’s Pentecost’s we are the disciples and Richard and Rick are our Holy Spirits, could be that one of them takes a look at this GB today, just curious and checking their legacy. Let’s make them proud today and make it a special one for them and for all posters and lurkers here in the www, in fact the whole world could be watching here, so there’s quite a heavy task for all of these Pentecost days.

So never mind father’s day, let’s clean up this whole site now, make this GB shine. I’ll start with the Library and the Discography (V. never cleans that room).

p.s. Richard and Rick, eternal thanks.



Entered at Sun Jun 12 09:45:31 CEST 2011 from (41.97.129.75)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Pat B / Sunday morning translation exercise

Pat B: thanks for the precision

Lais – Dorothea (song linked above)

Who wants to hear a new song
Of what happened in the convent of Ghent
About Dorothea the beautiful fair maiden
God's servitor and by God blessed

It happened on a high holiday
As the young nuns had to go out for bread
Dorothea not knowing where to go
She went straight to the noble Lady

She firmly knocked on the door
The noble Lady came herself to open
I know nobody except The Lord and you
Friend come in and eat with me

But when the meal was done
Dorothea rose up quickly
And thanked The Lord with very great fervor
Dorothea then gave back her blessed soul

The bells were ringing small and large
And nobody knew anything of Dorothea's death
All gathered from afar and from near
To see the miracle of God indeed


Entered at Sun Jun 12 04:24:38 CEST 2011 from (75.82.11.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Peter V

The single (radio edit) for "He Don't Live Here No More,"won't be released on vinyl. I will however discuss with management about putting it on my dad's website for a free lossless quality download.


Entered at Sun Jun 12 04:19:03 CEST 2011 from (99.115.147.236)

Posted by:

Pat B

Empty Now, Omega Man was based on I Am Legend, the superb science fiction novel that has yet to be made into a good movie.


Entered at Sun Jun 12 03:02:50 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: Springfield Openers

Chris Hillman and Herb Pedersen putting together an electric band, or reuniting their Desert Rose Band, or Burritos or Byrds (Hillman,McGuinnn and Crosby), opebning, would be a treat too


Entered at Sun Jun 12 00:16:19 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Subject: GregD/ Poco

GregD, apparently you aren't a new poster, but i don't recognize your posting name. Maybe it's synapse failure on my part.

When Cotton left, I was surprised to say the least. Apparently Rusty was somewhat surprised also, because a Poconuts post of his indicated he found out about it by reading Paul's solo itinerary and seeing the dates conflicted with Poco dates. The wording between the lines seemed to imply that it had been a possibility, cause he wrote he was saddened, not that he was shocked.

I've not heard the new lineup, Michael Webb being the replacement for Cotton. I know they have an album about in the can.I think they have just ended recording or are about to. It was possible to buy guest status at the recording sessions in Nashville, apparently it is a newer method bands use to fund their recotdings. I left Arizona before they played Tucson, and right now they are playing the casino in Alton, Illinois, just across the rivber from St Louis. I should have been in st louis already, but haven't recovered yet enough to get my ass back on the road. So I've missed Poco everywhere i have just left or am about to be lately. Rusty has moved to Missouri, he ls a couple hours south of St louis....l I actually dont think I've heard the new drummer live yet, I'm pretty sure the last time I caught the band live , which was at a Alton street fair, George had not yet suffered his stroke. WHat i've heard of the new drummer on you tube has not imporessed me, but i can't imagine Rusty bringing in a sloiuch. I have problems appreciating you tube music to start with, and audience video is audience video, so till I see George Lawrence live, I'll withold real judgment.

PersonallY, i wouldn't presume to suggest the lineup for Poco with Furay opening for The Springfield. If it could happen, and would , no way would Richie or Rusty go on with less than a class lineup. me, I'd be happy with POaul or Jimmy on guitar ,or both, and far as bass goes, any of the bass players would work fine. Meisner, Tim , or even Sundrud.But I'd really like to see Tim. Of course, were this ti happen, Rustym being the kind of guy he is, woudl invite sundrdu to sing with the band also.And theyd invite Grantham to sing too. Poco, somehow has managed to be an inclusive operation, in their own way, very very family like and very classy. I;ve no idea why Paul left.



Entered at Sat Jun 11 23:34:37 CEST 2011 from (79.202.187.217)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: psst

Just wondered, before I’ll join Lemmy Kilmister, where did my friend Rosalind go ….. would have be nice to see the sun come up from behind a bar with Rosalind, if only once.

Anyway, how different we are, and where we live, what we do or what our truth is, we’ve found our way to the legendary Band. And maybe some day, for what reason ever, there will be a revival of The Band and the whole world tumbles down to check this site out. This GB would be closed within a day, and only the archives would be available to look through for the mass and this GB would become a legend as well making us all legends and all would say “I’m The Brown Eyed Girl!” and we wouldn’t see our Brown Eyed Girl ever again. …. that’s why it’s good the way it is, don’t tell um about The Band, let’s keep it our Band, ok? cheers.

p.s. Denise alles ok? mis je al een hele tijd.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 21:46:44 CEST 2011 from (91.42.253.166)

Posted by:

Norbert

Location: first cloud computing post

Lars if you ever come to Holland make sure to take your chainsaw along.

We’ll cut some giant oaks, just to see them fall.and than we’ll dance and eat and drink and sing my brother.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 20:39:03 CEST 2011 from (74.108.27.233)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Typos

Obviously Joan bot Jjoan. Sorry


Entered at Sat Jun 11 20:38:00 CEST 2011 from (74.108.27.233)

Posted by:

Jjoan

Subject: Robbie on Fallon

Great performance. Robbie was in great voice. It really would be great if he "took it on the road" a bit.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 19:49:06 CEST 2011 from (204.169.161.1)

Posted by:

Rhythm Jimmy

Subject: Kings and Queens

Just received my copy of the Blackies' new one, Kings and Queens, and at first listen it sounds like a winner.

The "queens" of title are Rosanne Cash, Exene Cervanka, Holly Cole, Emmylou Harris, Amy Helm, Mary Margaret O’Hara, Janiva Magness, Sam Phillips, Serena Ryder, Patti Scialfa, Pam Tillis, Sara Watkins, Lucinda Williams, and Cassandra Wilson, in duets with the boys.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 18:05:37 CEST 2011 from (99.250.10.113)

Posted by:

GregD

Subject: Buffalo Springfied/Poco

PutEmUP/Friend/Jeff -Although the prospect of Richie Furay with Poco opening up for Buffalo Springfield on their recent tour or projected upcoming fall tour would be interesting to say the least, what Poco lineup would you chose? I guess Furay could join the current roster, but Paul Cotton is unfortunately no longer part of that family. Randy Meisner has said that he really didn't enjoy his reunion shows with Poco back in the late '80's due to the material-apparently Furay, with his born-again Christianity, would not play certain songs from their catalogue, making things a bit difficult.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 15:40:26 CEST 2011 from (41.97.156.188)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Lais - 't smidje

(young blacksmith) actually medieval, no anachronism detected (in the text, the Folk sound borrows bits from Progressive [/Excessive ?] Rock --- like them


Entered at Sat Jun 11 13:19:23 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Steve Anglo

I found a cut-out CD in the supermarket of “The Blues Scene” for £3. It’s one of the Decca Originals compilation series, now deleted. I have The Mod Scene, The R&B Scene, The Beat Scene. I’m not a great fan of British blues so never picked up the blues scene. On inspection, it has “Long Night” which is “Steve Anglo & John Mayall.” Steve Anglo was Steve Winwood’s alter ego and he used it as “The Anglos” for “Incense”, which was a duet between Steve and Millie (My Boy Lollipop). Long Night is a very tasty organ instrumental. There’s some good stuff otherwise … Zoot Money, Otis Spann (who landed up in England for several months), Davey Graham. And you can skip the duller stuff.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 13:02:35 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Robbie single?

I was looking in HMV this morning and "How To Be Clairvoyant" has gained a cover sticker saying: "Contains the single He Don't Live Here No More." I looked online and there's no sign of it (I did find someone advertising a US 1-track promo CD). Is there to be a single? Will it be issued on vinyl?


Entered at Sat Jun 11 12:50:35 CEST 2011 from (90.239.90.176)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Shangri La

Thanks for the link. I checked it out and now it was 3.2 instead of 4.1. It has not been on the market in 30 years. Clearly overpriced!

Pink Floyd (and even Mick Jagger) owned a farm in the South of France. Now it has fabulous owners again: Angelina Jolie and Bratt. I use to drive in the outskirts of this farm from time to time. It is in deep forest. You don't see anything. They sell their own rose wine. I like to drink it. I call it for "Angelina's wine" but my wife calls it for "Bratt's wine". - That is A PROPERTY!!! Not an old studio smelling sweat.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 12:35:23 CEST 2011 from (41.97.156.188)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: this is not a movie suggestion

In the same order of ideas, there’s another movie, The Omega Man (1970). Charlton Heston and a handful gang of mutants have survived a Chino-Sovietic biological war that wiped out mankind in 1975.

The story opens in 1977. The mutants, believing that the plague was God’s punishment of man for his dependence and belief in science and technology, devote their lives to destroy all the remnants of technology. Charlton Heston devotes his life to destroy the mutants

I like the opening scene showing Charlton Heston roaming a deserted Los Angeles downtown, riding cars after pushing away the remains of their owner from the seat, filling gas from abandoned tanks. Then he sees a movie theater clamped in year 1975, which shows Woodstock for the 3rd year, he goes inside the theater, passing by the projection cabin, and royally offers himself Woodstock in exclusivity.

There’s some analogy between Post-Apocalyptic survivors and Desert Island survivors (Robinson Crusoe) from fictional stories – the difference is that the former benefits of all the comfort left by the First Mankind Civilization, while the latter has to build with own hands his comfort and all the comfort of the mankind civilization to come

en tous cas, the way one sees in the link above Charlton Heston mouthing by heart dialogs from Woodstock Rockumentary, it suggests for the common spectator [see my recent post on Iceman] that Arlo Guthrie performing “Coming Into Los Angeles” [0:36-0:44] has been the most blessed moment in the whole lifetime of the First Mankind Civilization. “they sure not make pictures like that anymore !”

The other song in the clip [0:00-0:05] left for extra terrestrials as the top grade reached by the First Civilization, is Country Joe and the Fish (Rock and Soul Music)


Entered at Sat Jun 11 11:45:23 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

Wonderful Robbie performance. Love the song too. The first side of Clairvoyant is very very strong, though I think the title track is the highlight of the album.

I've been listening to Robbie's work on John Hammond's "So Many Roads" and "I Can Tell" albums. That's the greatest electric blues guitar playing I've ever heard. The album "Mirrors" only features an alternate take of I Wish You Would with Robbie on it. The Hammond albums have to be Robbie's most significant session work.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 09:34:33 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I had the same thoughts, Todd. The guitarist with the black Les Paul was great on backing vocal, and the drummer was oustanding. But Robbie has always had a taste for drums. Manu Katche was also an innovative and outstanding player, so much so, that I got his solo album. Sebastian, of course, was on Music from ‘The Native Americans.’ In this case, it was the house band, who were great right round, but the drummer immediately caught my ear.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 07:01:57 CEST 2011 from (67.85.169.75)

Posted by:

Jersey Girl

Subject: Straight Down the Line

Can only imagine how proud you were to watch your dad Thursday night, Sebastian. For the rest of us fans, it was worth the wait all these years to see Robbie so loose and so in the moment. It's my favorite song on the album, and the album is stellar start to finish, but that performance on Fallon was simply amazing. Oh, what we'd all give if you could convince him to take that show on the road!


Entered at Sat Jun 11 06:08:27 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Ryan Adams & The Cardinals

Kevin J, While it's on my mind, I wanted to mention that I detect a little bit of a Replacements vibe in some of the tracks on the recently released Ryan Adams and the Cardinals album which is named 'III / IV'.

It's basically a bunch of Outtakes from around the time of his 'Easy Tiger' album (recorded at Electric Ladyland studios in NYC by the way). But like anything Ryans Adams does, it's a bit of a mish mosh. There's some Smiths influence in there as well as some Bob Mould / Husker Du dynamics. Haven't quite wrapped my head around all of it enough yet to formulate a definitive opinion, but the two CD album could have probably made a really strong 45 minute single CD album with some judicious editing.

Overall I really like Adams, but occasionally his voice slips into a strained Edith Bunker type of whine on some of the choruses. Kind of an old lady wail. It's only occasionally, but it detracts from his otherwise effective vocal abilities.

But it was cool to hear that Replacements vibe on some of the tracks.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 05:29:16 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Straight Down The Line

Al Edge, I'd posit that it was an even BETTER vocal performance than 'To Kingdom Come'. Don't nobody go and stone me, but I always thought that one sounded a little thin vocally. Could just be personal preference, but I've always had more of a soft spot for 'Knockin Lost John'...the double dip recession was going strong....Of course 'Bessie Smith' is a nice one too. But I think Rick is helping out quite a bit on that one.

I liked the way Robert Randolph threw in the occasional "Hey!" kind of goosing Robbie along. The Roots guitarist who was playing the Black Les Paul did a nice job on supporting vocals too. And I think Quest Love might be the subtlest funky drummer that Robbie has played with since Levon. And that could be one of the key missing components all these years......


Entered at Sat Jun 11 04:23:14 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Joe, you are quite welcome. Steve would have been having a ball with the evoultion of J2Rs hand trill.

No way I miss the next Springfield shows. I was so tempted to fly form Scottsdale to LA to catch the shows there, really should have but was finishing up things and trying to get out of the desert before i perished. So was not looking to do anything that would prolong matters. This next time though, I'll either be in St Lou or Upstate NY. No way I miss it, if i have to fly in from St Louis to NY, i will.

Dry heat, well it ain't all it's cracked up to be. Give me humidity any day. However, the women in Arizona are abzafuckinglutley magnificent looking.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 03:14:52 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: BS

Thanks for the link to the Springfield pics Jeff. Richie Furay certainly looks well. Stills, better than I've seen him in years. Young, well, looking good's not his thing.

Thanks for the RRRR & R link too. Robbie has always looked well but yeah he was struttin his stuff out there. Should get 'out there' more often.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 03:14:33 CEST 2011 from (72.64.3.146)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Shangri La for sale $4.1 mill - contact Shen :).


Entered at Sat Jun 11 02:55:41 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Buffalo Springfield 30 date tour

some great pcitures at the photo link in the article.

picture #12 is of 3 ecstatic old men :-) I couldn't be happier for Richie, wish Dewey & Bruce were alive, but.......I;m thrilled for these guys, especially Furay. Finally getting his due place in the spotlight and the public eye. Music lovers knew back then, but now, the more average, casual fan of CSN & Y, and casual fan of Neil, will get some exposure to Furay. The mediaa headlines ,TV exposure, internet will accomplish that.

Woudl be amazing if Poco, with Furay, opened up the shows, btu that would be pushing it vocally for Furay. Being in 2 acts each nioght at that age, nope. And having a opener with some younger apeak ain't a bad idea either.


Entered at Sat Jun 11 02:52:17 CEST 2011 from (72.64.3.146)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

The Shangri La Ranch (w/ studio) is for sale for a mere $4.1 mill. For a piece of The Band history, just contact Shen :).


Entered at Fri Jun 10 23:53:49 CEST 2011 from (68.164.4.187)

Posted by:

Pat B

Great song, great lyric.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 23:51:30 CEST 2011 from (67.250.113.92)

Posted by:

Lars

Subject: The spell of the woods

Norbert- Stuff like that happens to me everyday over here.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 23:20:55 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Robbie and his band in that clip

A few words come to mind.

Authentic

Vital

Flowing

Surely Robbie's finest vocal since Kingdom Come. I'm staggered at just how real that came across. Nothing forced. Almost felt like I was watching Little Feat. Vocal started off dodgy - nervous - but boy did he and the the others grow into it. Great for Band Fans to see.

They should go on the road. No doubt about that.

Just wish it was a few hours longer.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 22:50:44 CEST 2011 from (79.202.185.33)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: chainsaw hallelujah

Just returned from chaining trees. After a while I sat down and started playing DIXY’s … “and the people were singing”…. with the gashandle, a two stroke: “RUNNN-NIGA-NIGA-NIGA-NIGA” roared the the night blue..... I repeated this several times without notice, but ater the 11th time I heard DIXY’s next line back from the forrest.

I roared again and heard a clear, GRA-GRA-GRA-GRA-GRA-GRA (the 6 “La”s) comming back. Energy grabed me, stood up, chainsaw in front, I started, chasing the GRA's into the forrest.

As I came closer, they moved away from me, I changed vainly directions till all of the fuel was gone. Lost again a Band related doom psalm was carved Walkure into my head next to the third girl that put me down.



Entered at Fri Jun 10 22:13:15 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Robbie

Astonishing performance that even beats the album. Robbie should take this band on the road. They were GREAT, and he responded with a stellar rendering of the song. Brilliant.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 22:06:17 CEST 2011 from (64.229.238.219)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

It did. Thanx, Bob W.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 21:30:15 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: that song's been sung

Sebastian: couldn't agree with you more, we could all stand a lot more of that!

Jeff, bob: thanks for the links, gents -- but it ain't the land of snow right now, its the land of floods. Check back in a week or two, it'll be the land of the microvampire. True Blood.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 21:16:14 CEST 2011 from (75.82.11.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Straight Down The Line

I thought the old man killed it last night! Watched it early this morning with my son who was definitely proud and grooving to his Papa Rob. Obviously taste varies greatly from person to person but the lyrics of this song are some of my favorites. Man, I would love to see this act go on the road.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 20:16:02 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

This link may work for you up there in the Land of Snow.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 20:10:45 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Nay, Mr. Tambourine Man

Bill M: The most egregious thing Terry Melcher did on the original version was to add a tambourine that strayed off the beat and was mixed too loud. The elegiac song, Mr. McGuinn's own adagio for the slain John F. Kennedy, called for a less is more approach that focused on the beautiful harmonies.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 20:09:54 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Audio Video of the RR performance on Fallon

I thought it was a great musical performance of a song with a lousy lyric. But I enjoyed the musical performance. And RR was fully "engaged".


Entered at Fri Jun 10 19:21:38 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

David P: Thanks for the info. I checked YouTube and, lo and behold, there was the version that's on my comp - said to be the '90s remake you mentioned (see link above). Assuming that's still Crosby doing the high harmonies, he deserves a special gold star for his work on this. Gives me the chills every time I hear it.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 19:05:24 CEST 2011 from (64.229.238.219)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Just an observation: Bob W's Fallon-Robbie link seems to have viewer restrictions limited to the U.S. The advisory from NBC: "Not available in your area." That's not very nice.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 18:12:42 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: He Was A Friend Of Mine

Bill M: "He Was A Friend Of Mine" basically followed the three part harmony formula used by the Byrds on many of their early songs -- Gene Clark doubled Jim McGuinn's vocal part and David Crosby added the beautiful high part. McGuinn, Crosby & Hillman later reprised the song with a fine stripped-down version on the 1990 Byrds box set, absent all the superfluous string/organ overdubs the producer Terry Melcher added, without the group's approval, to the original version that appeared on the "Turn! Turn! Turn!" album.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 17:44:43 CEST 2011 from (41.97.164.33)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Bill M / Lais -continued

Bill M : thanks for the echo, I particularly like the sarcastic tone of Reggiani

Lais - "De Wereld Vergaat" translates as "the world is ending"


Entered at Fri Jun 10 17:30:44 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Was listening to an altogether pleasurable Byrds comp this morning, and found once again that the song that really floors me is "He Was A Friend Of Mine". Who is providing those stunning and affecting harmonies with McGuinn - Gene Clark?

Speaking of McGuinn, what chowderheads the Chad Mitchell Trio was for not using his voice - surely one of the most distinct and listenable of its time . Of course they do deserve marks for hiring him for his guitar playing. Must be one of the great triple-threats of R&R - playing, singing, writing.

Empty N: You likely won't be familiar with it, but there was a popular '60s comic book set in what was meant be be seen as New York (called something like 'Ny Ark') post-nuclear-apocalypse. The few inhabitants were very much like the population of the Reggiani song you pointed us to.

Kevin J: My household is mercifully 100% immune to the 'charms' of the outlet mall, but we used to go through Cookstown pretty regularly. And now that there's a used-record store, I may just have to drop some hints about it being time to visit the sister-in-law and cherished neice in nearby Barrie. Band / GB link: the s-i-l was Denny N's girlfriend when our Bonk knew him and his band Zarathustra; I introduced her to our BEG at a Danny Brooks concert (where Brooks' band included Richard Bell AND Michael Fonfara on keys AND guest-guitarist Danny Weis from Rhinoceros, Lou Reed and Iron Butterfly); and, because because she was close friends with Richard Manuel's then-s-i-l, she got to occupy a special onstage seating area when the Band played the Ex with Linda Ronstadt in '76. Really is remarkable how small the world can be.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 17:30:40 CEST 2011 from (41.97.164.33)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Lais - continued

for any GBer who are still interested with the "music from the world" thread

I planned more or less to post more about this group, one of my current best favorites, three Flemish girls singers called Laïs. The text of the kinked above song "De Wereld Vergaat" is word by word what you can read in the spam post Entered at Thu Jun 9 23:48:20 CEST 2011 from (187.145.36.33) here below.

as long as it is not deleted (the spam post), I economise one fastidious and painful English translation of a song for the days to come

The name of the group Lais is the plural of Lai, genre of poems from the Middle-Ages, their songtexts are mainly of Middle-Ages subjects of news and actuality


Entered at Fri Jun 10 16:06:55 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: great expectations

Thanks to all for the reviews -- and for the link, bob w. (Unfortunately, NBC is sorry, but the link isn't available from my location.)
Missed the telecast, so I'll have to wait for the re-run, tonight I think. I did catch a bit of "Crossroads 2010" on PBS in between pledge-begs incl. a gorgeous "Hammerhead" from Jeff Beck & his very tight band. Rhonda Smith.
I've played _Clairvoyant_ thru several times now, and it's always the same: as each track ends, I think, "wow, that's gotta be the best track on the record" -- and then the next track is better. Which is to say it's consistently strong material, and the sequencing works. With the quasi-exception of the "Tears In Heaven"-sounding one, which is just that little bit of a speed-bump . . . .


Entered at Fri Jun 10 16:06:10 CEST 2011 from (72.78.50.17)

Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love
Web: My link

Subject: Robbie on Fallon

Totally agree with all the comments on Robbie's appearance last night (thanks for the link Bob W). This totally had the all important edge, and I'd say it was by far his best post-Band TV performance period.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 15:23:10 CEST 2011 from (71.62.70.35)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Robert Randolph...and Rick Nelson

I got to see Robert Randolph a few years back and he's amazing. He was great with Robbie on that Fallon show, too.

Bob, thanks for the tip on that live Rick Nelson. I'll be buying that one.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 13:35:44 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

Here's the link for last night's performance. You can click on the last vertical break line and you will go to Robbie's segment after a few ads. Excellent quality video.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 13:19:52 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Three guitars, two keyboards, drummer, another percussionist with bass AND tuba rocking the low end! Robert Randolph brings great energy to every piece of music he touches. Robbie sounded solid vocally and his guitar was on point. He was completely engaged and it was a very strong performance. I agree with Pat and Todd....Dawes is a nice band but that lineup last night gave the music a whole new dimension. There was an edge that clearly has been missing to this point.

Encore!

Glad you are still enjoying that great documentary, Kevin.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 11:50:59 CEST 2011 from (41.97.180.165)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: verse correction

that tamed buffalos, aurochs, and good lucks


Entered at Fri Jun 10 11:36:16 CEST 2011 from (41.97.180.165)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Serge Reggiani : L'Homme Fossile

English lyrics translation; the song is in the link above , The Fossil Man -- song of Serge Reggiani

Three million years ago, I was sleeping in the peat
When a nasty blow of pickaxe cut neat my neck
And made me follow a graceful curve
At the end of which I plunged into the formalin
First they wanted to consolidate my face
They began to brush my jaw and my temple
Followed a shampoo of potassium dichromate
Then they tied a favor around my parietal

Overnight I became a star
Newspapers television were only for me
So much that the rest of the other skeletons
Judging themselves neglected, beat me a little cold
Finally the scientists, following customs and habits
Wanting to baptize me by a Latin name
Called me Pithecanthropus Erectus
Erectus suits me well, as I was I hot rabbit

And these gentlemen scholars with smart boots and nose clip
On the basis of a small bone or a bicuspid
Realized that I had some sacred faculties
Which differed me from other mammals
They said I was a virtuoso of the bludgeon
that mated bison, aurochs, and good lucks
I was outstandingly good for little drawings
Venus Callipyge with tits as a moon

They said that I used to live in a cave
They said so many things, and so many curious things
I was hairy and I had no panties
While I lived in a suburban pool house
I was like everybody else, full of good manners
Every Sunday morning, I played the Tiercé
I wore stiff collars, and braidings

That was before the war
Before that everything was wiped out
Three good millions years passed now
You have nothing to fear,
there is no more fallout


Entered at Fri Jun 10 08:53:19 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'm still playing "When The Night Was Young" constantly. It was the first one that got really stuck in my brain, and it hasn't budged either.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 07:58:42 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: JRR on Fallon

Yes indeed. The performance on the Fallon show just felt right. While Dawes was very competent, there was no fire in any of the previous live television appearances from Dawes or Robbie. The previous performances just seemed like Robbie was trying to get through it, and Dawes weren’t going to take any chances. Tonight with the Roots and Robert Randolph there was a fire in the belly that had been missing. They provided some FUNK and ATTITUDE that served the music well. I think Robbie knew that he wouldn't be able to coast, and that the Roots and Randolph would kick things up. Ain’t it nice when you’ve got a great band to give a little push. It was the first time in any of these recent outings that I got the feeling of a musician making vibrant music rather than someone simply playing a song.

Also, I much preferred ‘Straight Down The Line’ to ‘HDLHNM’, so I was happy with the song choice. After having some time to digest the album, the two tracks that I like the most are ‘She’s Not Mine’ and ‘Won’t Be Back’.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 07:35:29 CEST 2011 from (99.115.147.236)

Posted by:

Pat B

Hats off to Dawes and all, but RR on Fallon tonight was fantastic. Whew. I'd like to hear that lineup play the whole album.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 06:50:23 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

Subject: How To Become Clairvoyant

I've been pretty into the album since it was released, but I agree that it gets better with repeated listens. A really great album from Robbie. I would say that it is his best solo album so far.


Entered at Fri Jun 10 06:37:24 CEST 2011 from (166.205.142.134)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Clairvoyent

Anybody else enjoying this more now? It was an aquired thing for me and now that I've moved into double-digit listenings I'm more fully on board with it being a very good record. Looking forward to Jimmy Fallon tonight too -


Entered at Fri Jun 10 02:28:20 CEST 2011 from (99.235.255.183)

Posted by:

Serenity

Subject: Jeff Healey & ROBBIE

Hi guys.. Thought I'd check in once-in-awhile to see how everything is going. All looks good...

SADAVID: Thanx for the link on Jeff Healey. It was mentioned about all his records? Proud to say that my brothers were among them. He bought ALL his records back in the 80's when my bro passed away. They were in the thousands. LP's of jazz artists and all he could buy of Dinah Shore & Duke Ellington. I was sorry I never got to meet Jeff, but heard he was a very nice person.

Looking forward to ROBBIE on Jimmy Fallon tonight.Hope he imterviews him, but I guess that's wishful thinking.

Jimmy did a great thing with Neil Young.

CYA soon. Take care and God Bless...

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxoxo


Entered at Fri Jun 10 02:15:10 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Trans Lucca Vestti

Run that one past me again?


Entered at Fri Jun 10 00:47:35 CEST 2011 from (69.123.3.201)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley, NY

Subject: Rick Nelson In Concert - The Troubador 1969

Any Rick Nelson fans here? Ace Records UK recently released the remastered version of this great live record. It contains a 2nd cd of previously unreleased songs from his 4 day stand at the Troubador in 1969. Many Dylan covers including a great country rock version of 'I Shall Be Released' and what had to be the first cover of 'Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You'. Rick at his best.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 23:48:20 CEST 2011 from (187.145.36.33)

Posted by:

Trans Lucca Vestti

Location: Mexico Distrito Federal
Web: My link

Subject: Promotion

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Y su Majestad ??? como escribe Libros !!! tengo infinidad de Temas que pueden salvar a El Imperio Azteca para hacerlos Reportajes y los quiero escribir para ustedes sin costo alguno para que no se sientan comprometidos, solo denme La Oportunidad de Publicar Los Proyectos que han permanecido en La Oscuridad durante mucho Tiempo. The Future Kiss. transvestti1 www.myspace.com/transvestti www.patrocinadores.net/transvestti1 www.the-blanwhit-records.com


Entered at Thu Jun 9 22:27:58 CEST 2011 from (70.50.64.34)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Bill M: Thank you for that link…..as you know I really enjoy learning about that era…….and by the way……if you are going to mistake me for another….I am fine with it being the estimable sadavid…….

bob w: Just went to google and yes – a very cool tribute to Les Paul…………………by the way, as the unpacking of boxes slowly continues, just getting to the dvd’s and yesterday watched – again – the Tom Dowd doc “The Language of Music” that you prompted me to purchase some years ago…………floored me again……lovely guy and a career for the ages…..To anyone who has not seen this…….trust me…..find a way to see it as you will not be disappointed ……

Got dragged to a place an hour north of TO called Cookstown (the words “outlet mall” do send women into a tizzy!) ……anyway…I made my way into the town…..a deserted main street with not much there except for a second hand record shop which was a welcome reprieve from looking at pots/pans and tea cups…………picked up Charlie Parker’s – “Chasin’ The Bird” and Big Bill Bronzy “The Godfather of Chicago Blues” – both cd’s and have yet to open either one……..hope to get to them soon….


Entered at Thu Jun 9 22:26:04 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Eugene Smith

I've mentioned the great Eugene Smith here many times. He was a regular guest vocalist with our guys during their days with Hawkins, and later Hawkins' featured second vocalist (and harp player, preceding King Biscuit Boy) and H-D-H Invictus recording artist. And now he finally has his own website - a bit short on detail, but a start. His father, jazz bassist Al Lucas, hailed from Brantford, Ontario, but was descended (note Pat B) from US Civil War vet Andrew Lucas.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 20:32:06 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Neil's Powderfinger

It wasn't where Neil Young's hand was wandering at The Last Waltz, but rather what was wandering out of his nose that proved to be most expensive in editing the film.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 20:27:51 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: RIP Ed Glinert

Another pioneer passes . . . Mr. Glinert "helped put together the Festival Express" tour and was one of the principals behind the '69 Rock 'n' Roll Revival fest in Tronna - notable for the first performance of the Plastic Ono Band.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 19:24:24 CEST 2011 from (74.108.27.233)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Al and Neil

But Al, you still haven't told us what this dastardly offense was. :-)


Entered at Thu Jun 9 18:45:39 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: no-trouser scouser

Empty: that _Caveman_ gig worked out pretty well for R. Starkey (one assumes). From w'pedia:

"Bach met Ringo Starr on the set of the film Caveman in February 1980, and they were married on April 27, 1981, a few weeks after the film's release. In recent years, Bach has accompanied Starr on his tours and has appeared on some of Ringo's music videos, playing on some of his songs.

Bach holds a master's degree (UCLA, 1993) in psychology. She started the Self Help Addiction Recovery Program (S.H.A.R.P.) with the help of George Harrison, Eric Clapton and Pattie Boyd, the former wife of both Harrison and Clapton. Bach and Starr created The Lotus Foundation, a charity with many sub-charities.

Joe Walsh, guitarist with the band, the Eagles, married Barbara Bach's sister, Marjorie Bach, in Los Angeles on December 13, 2008."


Entered at Thu Jun 9 18:32:37 CEST 2011 from (41.97.202.86)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Al Edge / Bill M : I am a lame suggestor

Al : the scene I linked is not representative at all of the movie, maybe I didnot wrote what I meant, the scene just honorifyied Neil Young. you will be bored a bit when you will watch the whole movie

Bill : no I did not watch Encino Man, i openned the page in imdb right now, it reminds me of a movie "Caveman" whith Ringo Starr where he plays a prehistoric man who falls in love with a prehistoric girl


Entered at Thu Jun 9 16:58:47 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

No, it's not that. Had anyone attacked Ian St John's skills, there would have been mayhem at the time. No, it was that Neil Diamond was unjustly accused by a glare from Joni, For two years, until the movie came out, every one of Joni's pals thought Neil Diamond was a seedy bottom patter. It was up to Neil Young to own up and say, 'I was the creepy cunning crafty caressor. Mr Diamond never touched, stroked, pinched or patted your arse.'

Neil Diamond on the other hand, eschewed by the Hollywood elite, the subject of smirks and tuts at many a Malibu brunch (that's the fellow who fondled Joni's posterior region at The Last Waltz), lost all sense of proportion, resulting in the film "The Jazz Singer." For which Neil Young bears full responsibility.

Incidentally, a review of his recent retrospective, "The Bang Years" said it's worth getting if only for Neil Diamond's anecdotes about the Bert Berns years on the Bang label (in which his co-sufferer was Van Morrison) in the sleeve notes.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 16:38:05 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Web: My link

A little bit of Boz Scaggs' "Now You're Gone" with Duane Allman. Click on the "Play" button next to the track.

Have you checked out today's Google logo? A clever tribute to Les Paul who would have been ninety six years old today.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 16:16:05 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: It's deeper than that. T real issue is that Al hasn't forgiven Neil for his venomous attack on Ian St John's skills. Given that Al still sees St John's arrival as his life's high-water mark, I get where he's coming from.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 16:11:59 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Boz Scaggs

joe j: Boz's "Now You're Gone" is a great song and it featured Duane Allman on dobro. Tracy Nelson, who sang back-up with Boz on the original, did an excellent cover version on her 1969 LP "Mother Earth Presents Tracy Nelson", which featured an allstar group of musicians: Scotty Moore, D.J. Fontana, Pete Drake, Johnny Gimble and the Jordanaires.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 15:54:09 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Empty N: Thanks for the link. Have you seen the movie "Encino Man", which I believe takes place near Hollywood and/or Redwood? Would've been a fair symmetry to have Pauly Shore warbling his way through the opening lines of Zep's "Immigrant Song".

Kevin J: Now that I know you're around, I'll repurpose the above link, posted two weeks ago in the context of a short discussion of Rhinoceros. This time, and especially for you who watched the Yonge Street doc a month or so ago, I will note that the singer of the clip (after the first 8 or 9 seconds, which is the closing footage of some other group) is Duke Edwards, who you will remember as the guy who told the funny story about asking in the '60s where to find Toronto's black area. Duke was from New Orleans, and returned there years ago, but in between he spent maybe 10 years in Canada, first in Montreal (he told me he came up with Sun Ra, but I'm not sure about that, though he certainly took part in jams with Sun Ra when the Arkestra was famously stranded in the Montreal area over a winter). Then he moved to Toronto, where he became the "musical guru" of Jon and Lee and the Checkmates. Although he wasn't actually in that group, he did write the instrumental b-side of their one 45 (in '67), and he later (in '70) rejoined most of them as singer/drummer in this near-final version of Rhinoceros. (His successor, Mouse Johnson, was also in the Yonge doc - the guy talking about witnessing the policemen picking up their weekly envelopes from the gangsters. BEG: Mouse later with Lou Reed, along with fellow-Rhinorerites Michael Fonfara and Peter Hodgson.)


Entered at Thu Jun 9 15:48:37 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: R's again

Well, there you go; JRR's site sez his Jimmy Fallon gig tonite will be w/ Robert Randolph and The Roots.

Al's still upset about Neil's wandering hands at The Last Waltz. Al gets a bit proprietary about Joni.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 13:28:03 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Iceman

Cheers Empty - haven't seen that film - looks promising - just ordered it off Amazon for £2-48p - on the strength of your link.

The Iceman has got a voice like a guy who Pete will recall - Tommy Bruce. Used to sound as if he'd been gargling for a week with dead guinea pigs. Only the Iceman was more in tune.

:-0)

Actually that was bit unfair on poor old Tommy - he was a happy chappy.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 13:13:18 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Liddellpool

Pete, my favourite ever season was that 1961-2 season when we completely blitzed all second division opposition to clinch promotion to the First Division.

I still get goosebumps casting my mind back to the signing of Ian St John. It was one of those indescribable joyous moments you only experience every so often if you're lucky. Scarcely believable. Us an unfashionable second division club desperate for promotion and suddenly we're purchasing for the staggering sum of £35,000 a genuine top range Scottish international.

[Tingles with excitement]

Then on his debut in Local Floodlit competition he grabs a hat trick against - as you rightly call them - the Millionaires in Blue.

Then in our opening two games of that promotion season we beat the promotion favourites Sunderland 3-0 at Anfield before 4 days later waltzing up to Roker park and stuffing them 4-1.

Ecstacy.

:-0)


Entered at Thu Jun 9 13:02:30 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Al, you know you're getting old when you remember (as I do) Liverpool as a Division Two team and Everton as the Division One dandies.

What did Neil Young do? I read a review of the new country live one from 1984 this morning, opened the GB and saw the note about Le Noise. So I have to go back to Neil Young completism.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 12:57:50 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: The Dukla prague kit controversy

Agreed Fred... but even the most stalwart Dukla fanatics needed counselling after seeing it on the straggly haired Harvest reaper.

But this is all merely diverting from the main issue.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 12:35:40 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Hey that Dukla Prague kit isn't that bad! : )


Entered at Thu Jun 9 12:33:15 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Things that pale into insignificance

Fred - I kid you not - had it simply been a matter of that hideous Everton Hafnia away strip he wore at the '74 Monterey festival my rancour with Kneel Lung would have ebbed to minute proprtions by now. Why even if he'd sported the monstrous Dukla Prague away kit he took to wearing around that time I could have found something deep within the milk of my human kindness to bestow forgiveness upon the wretch.

Alas no. This was something that cuts far far deeper than even those monstrous aberrations.

:-0(


Entered at Thu Jun 9 11:16:30 CEST 2011 from (203.160.29.153)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Al E's problem with Neil Y

He wore an Everton replica kit? : )

Or something more serious?


Entered at Thu Jun 9 10:59:31 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Neil Old

Okay, so here's my particular personal problem with Neil Jung.

Don't get me wrong, I love the fella...love his ridiculous whining....but and it's a big but...I can simply never forgive him for something he was responsible for many moons ago.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 10:18:42 CEST 2011 from (41.97.202.86)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Jeff - Re: Planotones / Iceman / Heart of Gold

Jeff: thanks for the link to Planotones, I truly appreciate

There is a movie released in 1984, Iceman, directed by Fred Schepisi, entirely shot in Canada

Near an arctic base, an anthropologist (Timothy Hutton) resuscitates a prehistoric man (John Lone) who has been frozen in a block of ice. A team of scientists place the caveman in an artificial prehistoric environment for study of various interests. As Hutton develops a way to communicate with the iceman, he realizes that he is in front of a double impossibility: the iceman will never understand that his world has disappeared, there’s no chance to educate him for join the current one. The end is dramatic as a helicopter enters by error the simulated prehistoric area, the helicopter flight corresponds to the exact description of some prophecy in the primitive faith of the iceman, he collapses after attempting to jump in the helicopter

My favorite scene, and what captured my interest at the first viewing, surely seemed trivial for common public targeted by this kind of movies. At a moment of inattention in company of the prehistoric man now his friend, Hutton sings Neil Young’s "Heart of Gold",

…. The rest is in the link above, superbly well done, the harmonies melting to human voices separated by 40,000 years are simply a masterpiece [2:00-3:14]

I remember I thought what a publicity for Neil Young at a time [1984] voices began saying that he was ended, even the prehistoric men like Neil Young first


Entered at Thu Jun 9 02:40:35 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

Saw Neil Young at the Chicago Theatre recently, performing much of Le Noise and a mix of classic material. It was an amazing concert. Neil is as passionate and relevant as ever.

Dr. John is coming back to Chicago this fall. Look up the tour dates and catch him if he's coming by your town. My first show of his that I saw last fall was among the greatest concerts I've ever seen! His "Tribal" album from last year is still one of his all time best. I'm excited that he's playing his "Desitively Bonnaroo" album with the Meters at Bonnaroo in a couple of days. That 1974 album featured the Meters of course with Allen Toussaint, and gave the festival it's name. I hope a good bootleg recording turns up.


Entered at Thu Jun 9 02:30:24 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: Foggy Dew

Subject: Fallon

I believe I linked the Fallon/Bruce video some time ago. It officially makes Neil irrelevant. Loved the link to Buffalo Springfield reunion though.

Did I remember Peter V. saying he stopped being a NY completist w 'Le Noise'? Curious choice. Neil's put out a lot of ill conceived material over the years. 'Le Noise' is a gem.

Country tune of the day. You all should have it. Boz' "Now You're Gone".


Entered at Wed Jun 8 18:56:32 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Jimmy Fallon

sadavid: Mr. Fallon is a talented performer himself. Recently he's been doing a dead-on impression of Neil Young performing recent pop hits. Included are Miley Cyrus' "Party in the U.S.A." (backed by Crosby & Nash) and Willow Smith's "Whip My Hair" (backed by Bruce Springsteen). Videos of these amusing parodies are posted on YouTube.


Entered at Wed Jun 8 18:21:17 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: alliteration, my R's

David P: I've never seen the Fallon show, but (the now-discredited) Terfry was waxing enthusiastic about the house band - The Roots, is it?

So lets say JRR + RR + Roots.


Entered at Wed Jun 8 18:04:00 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: JRR on Jimmy Fallon

Eric Clapton is playing in Stockholm, Sweden tonight and Dawes in Columbus, Ohio. Will Robert Randolph's Family Band be providing the backup for Robbie?


Entered at Wed Jun 8 17:00:19 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

First, sorry and belated thanks Kevin J.

Second, in answer to sadavid's question why, may I suggest that it be taken on the basis of blind faith? If it turns out to be true with respect to Windwood, I hope the sound person will be in his corner and inclined to keep his volume up. Of course he way well have become one of those classy organists like Richard Bell, who see/saw the organ as a background instrument by nature and so would just fill up the sound rather than turn up the volume even when urged to do so by group-mates and fans - "Nope, that's all you're getting."


Entered at Wed Jun 8 16:23:27 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: the rumor

Bill M: thanks are due to Kevin J, not moi -- and I add my thanks.
Kevin J also noted previously that JRR is sched to perform on Jimmy Fallon's show tonight, with Robert Randolph - so we can expect, probably, "Straight Down the Line" again, or I guess an outside chance of "How to Become Clairvoyant." So why is it that Rich Terfry on _Radio 2 Drive_ yesterday, floated a rumour of a performance with Clapton / Winwood?


Entered at Wed Jun 8 16:06:06 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Thanks again for the link to "It Makes No Difference". I love what Richard does harmonising on "rain" around 4:15 or something (just before his closeup). It's also kinda weird to see his very slow-moving hands later on. And Garth's nice sax solo and how the torch then passed from sax to guitar.


Entered at Wed Jun 8 14:45:45 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Thinking of you, Jeff Newsom.


Entered at Wed Jun 8 14:26:54 CEST 2011 from (90.239.89.89)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: Broken English

Whatch out westcoaster! My bad English seems to bee constitutional like a flew. You already wrote "sight" instead of "site"!


Entered at Wed Jun 8 08:07:29 CEST 2011 from (86.51.62.130)

Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines

Subject: Favorite Ry Cooder

Just popped in and saw Ry Cooder mentioned... I've always loved his work on Van Morrison's 'Into the Music' LP. Especially the solo on "Full Force Gale".

Hi BEG!


Entered at Wed Jun 8 05:07:34 CEST 2011 from (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Jay Black & Kenny Vance

The final dialogue is really intriguing.


Entered at Wed Jun 8 04:57:49 CEST 2011 from (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Kenny Vance & Johnny Maestro


Entered at Wed Jun 8 04:51:08 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Empty - always "Looking For An Echo"

My landsman, who like the late great Johnny Maestro, is one ot the names synonymous with Brooklyn and doo wop or rock & roll, still keeps his Planotones gigging pretty darn steady. Pushing 70, the man is quite amazing. Guitarist,Johnny Gales, also a brooklynite, is one of those guys been around, Stretches with Bette Midler, etc.

Al, I know, you know, that i know you know that I ain't from Da Bronx. But, I coulda been. Do love da Bronx. Will be there tomorrow afternoon and night. In Arizona, they wear their guns on their hips. In Da Bronx, you don't see the guns, but you know 1 out of 2 men are packing. The women, figure if they don't have guns, they got razor blades.


Entered at Wed Jun 8 04:25:47 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Wonderful Mavis Staples and friends performance. Thanks Sad.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 23:24:13 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Kevin, that is a great, great performance.

Glad you are enjoying the t-shirt. Still have a few remaining. If anyone wants a photo just let me know and I'll send via email.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 23:02:33 CEST 2011 from (174.89.112.119)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

A reminder of the greatness of Rick Danko.....love this version - the vocals especially......See link.....a long time since I had heard this.....

bob w: The heat has finally arrived in TO.......had that great t-shirt on Sunday.......a beauty!


Entered at Tue Jun 7 21:52:12 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: You say it as if you see masochistic pride as a bad thing.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 21:35:44 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: the heartbreak cup

. . . but surely not quite so . . . consistently . . . .


Entered at Tue Jun 7 21:13:42 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Thanks sadavid: Until the story hit the news a few weeks ago, I had no idea that Healey had lived in that neighbourhood, which I've come to know pretty well in the last decade - partly because the old-style Tom's Tasty Freeze is around the corner. I've even been to Woodford Park a bunch of times, though I never saw Jeff there - and it goes without saying that ... A modest ravine park, as opposed to a playground, on the bank of legendary Mimico Creek. By the way, congratulations on the return of the Jets; you too can now have your heart broken by your own team.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 20:58:16 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: 78 rpm video

Jeff Healey sits in with a couple of Last Waltz alumni in this video from the age of steam . . . .


Entered at Tue Jun 7 20:54:16 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: in memoriam J. Healey

Bill M: your mention of Healey's reminds me of the recent news about the (impending?) re-naming of Woodford Park in Jeff's honour. I like the bit about 'we would have moved back to Etobicoke, but we couldn't find a house that would accommodate Jeff's record collection.'


Entered at Tue Jun 7 20:38:21 CEST 2011 from (41.97.142.11)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Jeff / Bill M

thanks for the echo

that I do the pair with Al is one the best compliments I had since a long a time

anybody noticed that The Band GB is suddenly alive as soon as Al is posting?

whereas when he doesnt post...


Entered at Tue Jun 7 19:56:49 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

The Band gets a passing mention in the linked article about a new edition of a wonderful book about the Canuckistani rock scene of the mid-'80s to mid-'90s. Our guys get a fair bit more attention in the book itself, or at least in the original edition, which I read years ago. I suspect that their appearance in a book about a scene that they weren't part of has much to do with the fact that Jason Schneider was one of the three authors, as Schneider went on to write, all by himself, the Band-heavy "Whispering Pines", which a number of us have purchased, read and mentioned here. This article mentions the important return of Keelor and Cuddy (the guts of Blue Rodeo) from New York. I caught what must've been one of their very first duo appearances back on home turf. It was my first visit to what was then the Slither Club; my last visit to the club, by then renamed Jeff Healey's, was to see Garth play - and as it turned out meet Maude and BEG.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 18:59:29 CEST 2011 from (69.177.215.173)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: RR on JF

Thanks for the heads-up Kevin.

Geographical Band Connection:
Jimmy Fallon grew up in Saugerties, NY


Entered at Tue Jun 7 18:38:39 CEST 2011 from (174.89.112.119)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Robbie Robertson Live this Thursday

From RR’s website comes news that he is performing on the quite hip late night talk show Jimmy Fallon……….Robert Randolf will be with him…….


Entered at Tue Jun 7 15:02:46 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Adam2: I'm not hearing what you describe on "Sleeping". Got an e-mail newsletter from Music Direct that includes an announcement that "coming soon" from MoFi will be a 180-gram LP version of "Stage Fright".

I have an older Oppo universal player that was easy to set up for region free play by simply punching in a 4-digit code on the remote. It isn't one of the new Blu-Ray models, but it will play all the other formats including SACD & DVD-A.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 13:29:57 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: SACD / Sony

I've thought of a problem with Sony blu-ray and SACD. Sony are notoriously weak (or used to be) on Region switching. Pioneer and Panasonic convert very easily to "All region" and do it automatically. With Sony you have to reset up the menu every time. This came to mind today. My Ramble at the Ryman arrived a few moments ago, with a note from amazon saying it was £10 cheaper than when I ordered it, at £8.36. That's because I ordered the CD / DVD combo and they sent the CD only. I looked on their site, and the DVD is a completely separate item as a Region 1 US import (which I've just ordered). So, as with many other cases, I need Region 1 (US) and Region 2 (UK) capability.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 13:19:25 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Realization

I've been enjoying my downloaded Johnny Rivers this morning. I had to look up the info of course, and no wonder John D likes it. Musicians are:

Bass, Guitar – Joe Osborne

Drums, Percussion – Hal Blaine

Guitar – James Burton

Horns, Strings – Marty Paich

Keyboards – Larry Knectchel

Rhythm Guitar – James Hendricks

Producer – Johnny Rivers


Entered at Tue Jun 7 12:38:40 CEST 2011 from (129.42.208.177)

Posted by:

Bob F,

Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Web: My link

Subject: Peter Stone Brown's review of Garland Jeffreys new music

Peter Stone Brown's review of Garland Jeffrey's new record The King of In Between. Peter's review captures the heart and soul of the record to perfection.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 09:55:03 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

David P: The part in "Sleeping" occurs around 2:10. During the third to last phrase of the guitar solo, there's a brief dropout around the middle-right of the soundstage. I just wondered what that was. It doesn't seem to happen on the 2000 remaster.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 07:49:36 CEST 2011 from (69.124.123.123)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Empty, one of the things of which I am very certain, is that all of us, have mostly wasted our time in this GB all these years. And another thing of which I'm certain- as a song of mine goes: wasted time ain't wasted. Well, not always anyway.

The fucking nutcase Congressman Anthony Weiner is from my general neighborhood, rose to the ranks politically here, and represents us.What a headcase! The amazing thing is he has gotten away with this for at least 6 years


Entered at Tue Jun 7 05:53:46 CEST 2011 from (205.188.116.5)

Posted by:

PuEmUp(Friend0

Location: BrookLouis

Subject: EMPTY EDGE

Fucking Now Al, the two of you make a team alright. Empty, I left the friggin desert on the 28th. But your link is still a killer song. Can't make a list of twenty, can't say I could make a lst of 100. Brown and Big Pink by hundreds of miles over NLSC, Europe 72 or American Beauty over Blues For Allah. But i love Blues For Allah too. Layla is a killer record. Poco, belongs there. Music can't be narrowed down like this.

Al, did you miss my Johnnie Johnson recording?

Anyone in NYC, Thursday & Friday, Jonny Rosch & Steve Cropper at Iridium. David Spinozza on guitar, Leon Pendarvis on B3, Lou Marini on sax,Shawn Pelton on drums, Eric Udel on bass, Don Harris (Tower of Power) on trumpet, gonna be one muthafucka of a show.Plenty of special "special guests".


Entered at Tue Jun 7 04:29:29 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: CORRECTION

Last three FRONT STALLS tickets. There might be better availability in other zones...


Entered at Tue Jun 7 04:27:35 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Thank f@@k for that!

Just bagged two of the last three tickets for Nick Lowe at the Festival Hall next week. Part of the annual "Meltdown" season curated this year by Ray Davies.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 03:17:03 CEST 2011 from (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pat B mono to stereo 1961

Pat....excellent question and one strangely enough, I have never thought about. When I got into radio in 1965 our FM station was in stereo. In the research I have done this evening I believe stereo FM in the U.S. began in 1961 and according to reports Canada among others followed suit. Here is the article Pat:

FM stereo in the late 1950s, several systems to add stereo to FM radio were considered by the FCC. Included were systems from 14 proponents including Crosley, Halstead, Electrical and Musical Industries, Ltd (EMI), Zenith Electronics Corporation and General Electric. The individual systems were evaluated for their strengths and weaknesses during field tests in Uniontown, Pennsylvania using KDKA-FM in Pittsburgh as the originating station.

The Crosley system was rejected by the FCC because it degraded the signal-to-noise ratio of the main channel and did not perform well under multipath RF conditions. In addition, it did not allow for SCA services because of its wide FM sub-carrier bandwidth. The Halstead system was rejected due to lack of high frequency stereo separation and reduction in the main channel signal-to-noise ratio. The GE and Zenith systems, so similar that they were considered theoretically identical, were formally approved by the FCC in April 1961 as the standard stereo FM broadcasting method in the USA and later adopted by most other countries.

It is important that stereo broadcasts should be compatible with mono receivers. For this reason, the left (L) and right (R) channels are algebraically encoded into sum (L+R) and difference (L−R) signals. A mono receiver will use just the L+R signal so the listener will hear both channels in the single loudspeaker. A stereo receiver will add the difference signal to the sum signal to recover the left channel, and subtract the difference signal from the sum to recover the right channel.


Entered at Tue Jun 7 01:35:44 CEST 2011 from (69.123.3.201)

Posted by:

Bob F.

Location: Hudson Valley NY
Web: My link

Subject: NY Daily News Interview/Article on Garland Jeffreys

Great article and interview with Garland from Sunday's NY Daily News.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 23:24:46 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Ry tale 2

Even better than Steve Simpson's one, this one was told to me by bassist Tex Comer, who I frequently gig with, and who (as well as Ace, Frankie Miller etc) did a stint in Mickey Jupp's band. Jupp gets invited to go out and write with Ry. All agree that this is a big opportunity to grab, and wish him well, wave him off at the airport etc. Jupp gets to Cooder's house and Cooder has gone out, another household member keeps him amused with coffee etc. Two hours later he has still not returned. Tex gets a postcard about a week later, to the effect of: Dear Tex, The c*nt kept me hanging about so ditched it. Gone for a look around Memphis. Back soon, love Juppy x


Entered at Mon Jun 6 23:02:32 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

Web: My link

Subject: new Ry Cooder album in September

A lot of talk about Ry Cooder here. He's one of my favorites as well. Has anyone read about his upcoming album? Ry gets political, and it sounds like a great album.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 22:59:18 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: PV

That's London for you. Wimbledon is as far in as I go, if I can help it...


Entered at Mon Jun 6 22:34:52 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: London irish pubs

To explain, some of those places in Kilburn, London circa 1969 actually had signs on the door saying "No Blacks. No Hippies."


Entered at Mon Jun 6 22:26:10 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I know, Rob. One of the mysteries of life is that pubs in Ireland are the warmest, friendliest places you can ever go to. But Irish pubs in London were the most aggressive places you could ever find. I never figured it out.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 22:22:45 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Realization

John, thanks for the direct link to amazon.co.uk. As used copies were going at a swingeing £49, I did something for the first time … downloaded a whole album on MP3. Of course, I downloaded cover art, put it on a CD§R, and in a proper jewel case with spine labels. I don't think I can can ever go "totally digital."


Entered at Mon Jun 6 21:24:47 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Irish Pubs

Peter, be under no illusion - if you find a proper (ie non-marketing department idea) Irish pub in some parts of Kilburn or Hammersmith, they are still a bit "choice". Only a few years ago a mate was in one (in Kilburn) and a tin was shaken at him "for da cause...". He replied quite truthfully (in broad Port Talbotian) that he was Welsh and didn't have an opinion and they left him alone. With others who refused there were cases of a funny look here, an ambiguity there....


Entered at Mon Jun 6 22:10:55 CEST 2011 from (68.164.4.49)

Posted by:

Pat B

John D, I guess this is a pretty obvious question: what year did you go from mono to stereo monitoring in the radio station?


Entered at Mon Jun 6 21:59:18 CEST 2011 from (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Al Edge

Al. I know that back in the day The Beatles and The Stones ruled. I went to see every Stones concert I could; when they first came for Canada.

That said the Searchers; along with The Beatles were my two fab fav's. The harmonies and the Rickenbacker guitars blew me away. I always had trouble figuring out who was on lead vocal. I understand it was Tony Jackson; on the first album and then he was only allowed one vocal on the second. He then left the group. Was it Mike Pender that took over vocals? Always confused about that. Over here Meet The Searchers and Sweets For My Sweet were the first two albums released. I chose "the very best of The Searchers"; because it came out with the original mono recordings.

When I move songs from CD to iTunes from that period, I go into the settings of iTunes and copy them over to mono. It's the way I remember them.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 21:58:49 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Pat B: Thanks! Perfututum sounds like a strain of flower - impatiens maybe. Maybe something Landmark planted over the weekend.

Peter V: Jim Reeves' "Moonlight and Roses" LP was among my family's first record growing up. I'm sure I went off Jim Reeves at some point on principle (the principle being more than occasionally justifiable: C&W sucks), but mostly I have fondish memories of whichever of the songs I recall. "He'll Have To Go" now strikes me as funny, perhaps similar to how "Long Black Veil" seemed funny to our guys - as if Jim, far away at the other end of the phone line, was in any position to insist.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 21:46:02 CEST 2011 from (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Peter/Johnny Rivers

Peter, Realization is the concept album (all songs linked); in which Rivers; recorded Summer Rain and Positively 4th Street. This is the version that Dylan was quoted as saying was his favorite "cover" of any song that he had ever recorded. That's debatable to us; but hey; if Mr. D says so?


Entered at Mon Jun 6 21:21:56 CEST 2011 from (68.164.4.49)

Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, from an old altar boy, perfututum.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 21:19:58 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Jim Reeves

From "Little Sister" (one of Elvis's greatest recordings ever) to "He'll Have To Go" is a LONG stretch. It's not Jim Reeves fault, but in the UK he lines up with the lowest common denominator: Jim Reeves, Frank Ifield, Englebert Humperdink. The stuff British kids hated. Jim Reeves persisted for years after his demise too. Shudderingly awful stuff. I guess the American equivalent is Sgt. Barry Sadler. A bar where people were listening to it with approval might be a risky place to go.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 20:25:53 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

It was the late-great Hank Garland who played lead guitar on Elvis' recording of "Little Sister" and Jim Reeves' "He'll Have To Go". Just further proof of Mr. Garland's versatility as a musician.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 20:10:36 CEST 2011 from (67.42.3.239)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Ry Cooder

I like all the tracks listed here. I would add:

Tattler

Paris, Texas

Get Rhythm - My favorite cover of one of my fave songs of ever; perhaps the happiest too.

She'll Have To Go - I'm with PV on this, except I LOVE the original too.

The band of his I prefer is the big one with Flaco Jiminez and the backup singers then, I foget their names but they're on Get Rhythm too.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 20:02:25 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Al E: A closer look at John D's list brought forth the realisation that it was him, as a CKFH and CHUM-FM dj, that introduced the adolscent me #2-10, and likely others. He was especially big on Dylan, and since it was FM in the early '70s you could get away with playing the entire "Sad-Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands" - and also what we all thought was the Albert Hall bootleg version of LARS. I think that's the only boot I still have - that and Springfield's Stampede come to think of it - and I should have remembered it for my own top 10 or 20. Your note back about the Searchers reminded me for some reason of my cherished copy of the Pye "File: Kinks" two-LP set, which contains all of their truly important stuff except for "I'm Not Like Everybody Else". The "File: Mungo Jerry" also contains some gems ("In the Summertime", "My Girl And Me" and others), but stretching one good song, "Picture Of Matchstick Men" across four sides in "File: Status Quo" is extravagance at its worst.

If I'm right in thinking that 'Status Quo' means 'Situation Normal', how would the Latins have said the rest of SNAFU?


Entered at Mon Jun 6 18:54:27 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Dumb & Dumber Sony Salespersons

Peter: Yes, the Sony Blu-Ray line of players support SACD. However, one has to wade carefully through the tech specs to find the info.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 18:51:33 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I love the way Ry can cover soul, country, blues, Mexican, Cuban, pop, jazz, and make it all work. An example is Chicken Skin Music. I loathe He’ll Have To Go done by anyone else deeply. It’s Jim Reeves and Irish pubs in London circa 1970 where if you heard Jim Reeves on the jukebox and you had long hair and flares you were extremely ill-advised to hang around. In that era, “Irish pub” in Britain was the direct equivalent of “Redneck bar,” a full twenty years before every second British pub became an Irish-themed pub. I say this having lived in Kilburn with long hair.

But Ry Cooder rescues the song from the very bad odour that was attached to it. I don’t think he could do the magic on … say Frank Ifield’s She Taught Me How To Yodel, but I’d bet he could make a decent attempt at it.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 18:40:19 CEST 2011 from (71.246.9.74)

Posted by:

bob w.

Don't forget Ry Cooder's great guitar (and sitar) work across John Hiatt's "Bring the Family" and his amazing contributions to "Little Village" in partnership with Hiatt, Jim Keltner and Nick Lowe again. Both albums are top shelf in every aspect.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 18:34:46 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

New Duane Allman site created by a family member.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 18:09:16 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Bop Til You Drop

Sounded great on release, and still sounds great. The one that floats my boat is "The Very Thing That Makes You Rich." Lovely guitar tone, as you'd expect, but it's the vocal arrangement that slays me. And the impeccable timing. And I love Ry's "black" inflection.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 18:06:47 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Some kind soul posted the Rising Sons' effervescent "Candy Man" to YouTube - see link. This is a Ry Cooder / Taj Mahal duet dating back to '66 or something. David P: The line, "Don't mess with Mister In-Between" finds its echo in a line in "Accentuate The Positive" (as covered almost as effervescently by NRBQ), "No talk of Mister In-Between".


Entered at Mon Jun 6 17:27:05 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Just picked up "Bop Till You Drop" to start … this was one of the first ever full digital recordings of rock music in 1979, three years before CD. It was also a very early CD release.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 17:21:36 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: More Ry …

Mick Jagger 'Memo From Turner'

Ry Cooder and Manuel Galban 'Secret Love' (Mamba Sinuendo)

Ry Cooder Onda Callejera (Chavez Ravine)

Ry Cooder Teardrops Will fall

Ry Cooder I Think It's Gonna Work Out Fine (Bop Till You Drop)

Ry Cooder Dark End Of The Street (Boomer's Story)

I could go on, but I just realized I have lots of Ry tracks on my iPod, but no Ry Playlist. Will stop and do one.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 17:13:47 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Four things I love from Ry Cooder's catalogue:

- the Rising Sons' magical version of "Candy Man"
- Ry's work of "Let It Bleed"
- Ry's cover of "Little Sister"
- the entire "Buena Vista Social Club" project


Entered at Mon Jun 6 16:55:06 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Blu Ray & SACD

Will Sony Blu-Ray players decode SACD? I've been holding off on Blu-Ray mainly because the Pioneer DVD player I have does SACD and DVD-Audio. I asked several times at Sony stores, and they looked through catalogues and said, 'No, SACD isn't mentioned."

Is it a new thing? Or were Sony just too dumb to list it?


Entered at Mon Jun 6 16:36:22 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Re Buffalo Springfield reunion, it was nice to see Neil looking younger and happier than he did on his own tour just a few weeks ago. Old cronies can do that to you. Also nice to see that Stills left that old bluegrass (?) lick in his solo towards the end of "Go And Say Goodbye". That thought caused me to play a bit of Big Brown to confirm my recollection that Robbie had used a lick from "Sit Down I Think I Love You" as a placeholder in his own solo on the alternate take of "Jemima Surrender".

Al E: My favourite Andrew Gold record was his cover of "Do Wah Diddy", which I loved especially for the extra syllable he added to the main line, "Do wah diddy diddy dum-UM diddy doo". I even saw him onstage once, but as Linda Ronstadt's rhythm guitarist on her '76 (?) tour with our guys.

Empty N: Ephesus, both the extensive Roman ruins and the amazing museum and other sites in and around the modern Turkish town of Seljuk, is something that everyone should try to see at least once. For me there's even a Band connection: the last time I was there there was an itinerant 'Luna Park' (the preferred eastern Med. term for 'carnival' it seems) on the edge of town. Re Sophia, let us not forget the awesome Aya Sofia in Istanbul. Is 'sophia' as wisdom the root of the word 'sufism'?



Entered at Mon Jun 6 16:23:12 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Adam2: Will have to listen closely to "Sleeping" through my Grado headphones to see if I hear what you mentioned.

It's interesting that Sony's Blu-Ray players will decode SACDs. I doubt that many who purchase them are even aware of the SACD capability.

The Band reissues are among the select few that are receiving the SACD treatment from Mobile Fidelity. Most of their current reissues are available as gold CDs & heavy-weight vinyl and MoFi excels in these formats as well


Entered at Mon Jun 6 16:22:40 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

Subject: Tweed River Festival '11!

Bow Thayer (recorded & performed w/ Levon Helm) is hosting an amazing annual VT-based wkd music festival that includes two of his bands & numerous other Northeast USA musicians & bands.

"The Tweed River Festival" has endured & progressed entering its third year. The festival is in mid-August & is an amazing event. Bow is a great musician looking to push his music to the next level & the "Tweed River Festival" has all the makings to get him there.

Check it out!


Entered at Mon Jun 6 15:36:09 CEST 2011 from (86.174.113.148)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Ry Cooder

I'd have the first one with the airstream caravan.

Heard a great story from Steve Simpson who was in a band supporting Ry; it must have been Frankie Miller's band because the story involves Ray Minhinnett. Anyway, they were all on the same bus and Ry was hard work all week culminating in even the others playing acoustic guitars on the bus was too much to upset the peace and quiet for Ry. Eventually on the last day, as Ry got off the bus with very little farewell, Ray sang "One-Ass-HOLE!" to the chorus of One Meatball from Ry's debut....


Entered at Mon Jun 6 14:51:20 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Ry

Pete, I'd be torn between Paradise and Chicken Skin. I love all of Chicken Skin but I adore Ry's It's All Over Now above everything I've heard Ry cover so maybe on that basis it'd have to be Paradise like yourself and JD. But maybe not.

:-0)


Entered at Mon Jun 6 14:42:25 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Ry humour

Empty - smart post - and laced with your wry humour toboot - I like - I reckon he's entitled to add School For Fools to that list - but maybe he's graduated by now to the College of Knowledge for Punters.

I'll look more than a bit daft if I've blundered in and got it wrong - but hey - what's new?

:-0)


Entered at Mon Jun 6 14:22:45 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: The Purple Valley

Subject: Teardrops Will Fall …

I'd forgotten Ry Cooder when I did my list. John chooses Paradise & Lunch. It's another Sophie's Choice one for me. If the desert island has a CD player, then Paradise & Lunch would be fine. But if it has a turntable, I think I'd go for Into The Purple Valley. it's a hard decision, but the reason it would win with a turntable, is that superb sleeve design. I could pin it onto a palm tree as a picture. When it gets down to CD, it doesn't matter, but I don't know if I could go without Teardrops Will Fall.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 13:34:46 CEST 2011 from (41.97.223.217)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Al Edge – lists , what if we invert the game ?

allow me to try,

Give the GB name of the old time regular whom best albums list is this one (no particular order)

The Band – Northern Cross Southern Lights
Burrito Deluxe – The Whole Enchilada
Derek and the Dominos – Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
Garth and Maud Hudson – Live at The Wolf
Grateful Dead – Blues for Allah
Bernie Leadon – Mirror
Poco –
Школа для дураков - Ларри Терстона, Левон Хелм, Песни Джефф Александр
…and so on

anybody who are unable to find who’s the GBer this is, his favorite albums list, at least partly, they truly wasted their precious time in The Band GB after all these years

if “who’s the GBer” rejects this list as his favorite, at least partly, I had truly wasted my precious time in The Band GB after all these years

when I think that I have been unable to put more than 5 Rock albums in my own favorite list….


Entered at Mon Jun 6 12:23:58 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject:


Entered at Mon Jun 6 12:03:47 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: JD

Have to say, my own selections coincide with a lot of your own selections John - which I take as kind of flattering given the depth of your own immersion in the genre and your access to so much behind the scenes insight.

I was both surprised yet immensely delighted by your Searchers selection. I guess it's very much a personal one, close to your early British invasion exposures. I, too, loved them dearly. They were Bootle lads like myself. Chris Curtis went to our school. There's the fabulous songs, of course, but then there's also that all time pivotal Rickenbacker influence on Roger McGuinn and all that wonderful music that subsequently flowed from it - which no-one can ever take away from John McNally and Mike Pender.

Well in JD

:-0)


Entered at Mon Jun 6 11:49:32 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Listlessness

Ha ha - post of the week from the Bronx cowboy. Love it. There's puns which I love anyway....but then there's the real McCoy.

:-0)


Entered at Mon Jun 6 11:03:02 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Adam. It worked like a dream. Stage Fright and NLSC are on their way. I'm taking comfort from David's point that these things escalate in value once they're out of print, and I guess on most specialist stuff, there's a certain demand, you press for that demand, then leave it for a while.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 08:59:52 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

Peter - Go to MusicDirect.com . That company owns Mobile Fidelity, and their website is updated more often with new releases. They're based in Chicago.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 08:46:56 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: MoFi & SF

When I finally got MoFis creaky site to work, the only Band albums it brought up after several searches was MFBP and RoA. So where are these SACDs of Stage Fright?

I've always rated Stage Fright equally with the first two, the difference being Daniel & The Sacred Harp is my favourite track!


Entered at Mon Jun 6 07:40:50 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PuEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Rock & Roll Woman/Child's Claim To Fame last Oct


Entered at Mon Jun 6 07:25:23 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Listen to this older gentleman sing

Kind Woman. Richie turned 68 or 69 in early May. Wrote this for his wife of 44 years, before they were married.

Still and Younbg contribute beautifully on guitar and piano.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 07:11:21 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Buffalo Springfield first night of 2 week tour, the encore

Kind of a very enjoyable fucking riot, no?

Al, regarding these kind of lists, i'm listless :-). But by no means do I intend to diminish the value that others, including thineself, place upon, or the joy that others, including thineself, might derive from the making and reading of such lists.

I do make lists for my daily work and personal tasks, and sometimes i even consult my lists.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 04:14:31 CEST 2011 from (24.34.109.92)

Posted by:

JoeFrey

Location: Albany,ny

Subject: SACD Stage Fright

Adam, my goodness, you need to invest in an SACD player. The Band's SACDs are indeed a revelation. Check out Oppo. The best value for the dollar. joe


Entered at Mon Jun 6 02:29:40 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Adam2

Well, now Adam, we are in full agreement on that! I like SF as much as the first two, and would also agree that if it were not the case then D&TSH would be the culprit....


Entered at Mon Jun 6 01:35:23 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

David P - Can you check the CD layer of the Stage Fright MoFi - the song "Sleeping", at about 2:10. Right at the end of the guitar solo, there sounds like a brief mic dropout/flaw or something. I just wanted to make sure it's normal.

Usually on SACDs like this, you can sometimes even hear flaws on the master tape, and I'm sure that's what I'm hearing.


Entered at Mon Jun 6 00:35:46 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

David P - I agree that the Band SACDs are exceptional. Like I said, I don't even have an SACD player. I can hear major improvements in sound just using modest equipment. Listening to these on really nice headphones is just amazing.

I can see how it may sound silly, but after hearing this new SACD of "Stage Fright", I just can't get enough of the album. It's a brilliant piece of work. The performances and recording just leap out at you thanks to the improved sound quality. I've never loved the album as much as I do now. Even 'Daniel & The Sacred Harp'. I still feel that the lyrics are somewhat forced - but whatever, it's brilliant. It seems like 'Daniel' is the one track that sounds out of place from the rest of the album. It definitely is the one track that seems to foreshadow "Cahoots" - the experimental nature of the song and recording, the aspirations (and sometimes failure) of the lyrics, the tone. I guess I still rate the song as a very good, experimental song that still doesn't quite make it - but it's great.

At this point I could never 'rate' Music From Big Pink, The Band, and Stage Fright. What an exceptional trilogy of albums. I was a fool to ever doubt the quality of Stage Fright compared to the first two albums.


Entered at Sun Jun 5 22:24:58 CEST 2011 from (91.42.241.193)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: dig!

docu about a modern rock fued, the Brian Jonestown Massacre vs. The Dandy Warhols (link).


Entered at Sun Jun 5 21:56:19 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Web: My link

Subject: Andrew Gold RIP

Thanks to Charlie for posting.

Lonely Boy

How Can This Be Love

Thank You For being a Friend

Never Let Her Slip Away

Writing even one real stonewall pop gem is beyond most mere mortals. Andrew managed at least the four above including my own personal linked favourite.

I will tonight order a CD copy of ALL THIS AND HEAVEN TOO to replace my battered vinyl copy which hasn't been played in over 20 years. Truth is I'd entirely forgotten about the poor guy. Apologies Andrew, I really did love some of your songs and they certainly enriched my own listening experience down the years.

And how sadly apt a title for an album for another real artist too soon gone.


Entered at Sun Jun 5 20:54:20 CEST 2011 from (79.202.170.217)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: The other Band: One Man in the Band

" "It's cheaper to tour," says Ben Nicholls, matter-of-factly. "The scheduling's not a nightmare and I get to keep all the cash." He's explaining why he does what he does: perform and record dark and intense garage rock as a one-man band, under the name Dennis Hopper Choppers. Not a solo artist - one man with an acoustic guitar, a line in heartfelt melancholia and, possibly, a beard - but a one-man band.

Being a one-man band no longer means having cymbals strapped between your knees, a bass drum on your back, a mouth organ suspended around your neck and sleigh bells tied to your ankles. These days, one-man bands are using technology to realise their musical vision, and to take control of what they do. These new one-man bands are not novelty entertainments.

But how do we define the one-man band? Adam Clitheroe, director of the documentary One Man in the Band, puts it this way: "For me, it's someone willing to go and try to make the noise of a band. If you're a one-man band in your head, you're big enough to do it."

The godfather of the modern one-man bands is probably Hasil Adkins, a rock'n'roller who claimed to have written 7,000 songs, was a forefather of the punk-rockabilly hybrid known as psychobilly, and who died in 2005. "I saw Hasil Adkins, the founding father of the contemporary one-man band scene, ....." (link)

Empty, you're correct; Sophia Loren is the beginning, the answer and everything in between to all philosophers philosophy mumble (Frued).


Entered at Sun Jun 5 20:53:29 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D – I’d be happy taking your list to a desert island. The only one I don’t know is Johnny Rivers “Realization” and on the basis of the rest, I’ll trust you and look out a copy.

Beatlemania / Meet The Beatles I had to go and search out from the Capitol Albums remastered box. It’s the sleeve of With The Beatles with half the album, a single, a track from Please, Please Me and a B-side. I can see it’s a good track list of early Beatles though unfamiliar.

BTW, if you love Otis Live in Europe, seek out the recent live sets from Sunset Strip, recorded around the same time.


Entered at Sun Jun 5 20:38:27 CEST 2011 from (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Top 20 list

I want to say a couple of things first. I did not go to my CD shelving and I did not go to my vinyl to take a peek. This top 20 was done quickly and from the gut and memory.

I'm a little disappointed; because they seem to be from only a couple of decades and Iknow I have many fav's from the past 30 years. I think I could submit another 1 or 2 top 20's; but here we go

01. Beatles - Beatlemania( Canadian version of the American Meet The Beatles.)

02. The Band-The Band

03. Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

04. Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde

05. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited

06. Elton John - Tumbleweed Connection

07. Neil Young - After The Goldrush

08. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks

09. Joni Mitchell - Blue

10. Ry Cooder - Paradise and Lunch

11. Crosby Stills Nash - Crosby Still Nash (1st album)

12. Dan Penn - Do Right Man

13. Simon & Garfunkel - Parsley Sage Rosemary & Thyme

14. Mamas & Papas - History of Mamas & Papas

15. Johnny Rivers - Realization

16. Otis Redding - Live In Europe

17. Aretha Franklin - The Very Best of Aretha Franklin: The 60's

18. Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks

19. Fats Domino - Out of New Orleans (8 CD Set)

20. The Searchers - The Very Best of The Searchers


Entered at Sun Jun 5 20:26:54 CEST 2011 from (41.97.244.148)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Norbert - Re: philosophy

from φιλοσοφία "philos" friend, and "sophia" wisdom, that is, friend of sophia, friend of wisdom

i discovered in the run there's a statue in Ephese (Turkey) personifying wisdom-sophia, picture in the link above, reminds me of Sophia Loren, recently admired in The Band GB, actually friend of Sophia


Entered at Sun Jun 5 19:02:14 CEST 2011 from (71.62.70.35)

Posted by:

Charlie Y

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Andrew Gold

Sorry to hear of the passing of Andrew Gold. He was just 59.


Entered at Sun Jun 5 17:20:55 CEST 2011 from (74.82.68.18)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Got My MoFi Workin'

Peter: It's hard to beat the DCC gold CD remaster of "Stage Fright", however, Steve Hoffman chose to use what was apparently the initial master mix prepared by Todd Rundgren. The other master tapes in the vault, which featured later mixes done by Glyn Johns and Mr. Rundgren, according to Mr. Hoffman, had additional echo/reverb and EQ tweaks. I've been comparing the DCC version of the "Stage Fright" title cut with that of the new MoFi and the original Robert Ludwig mastered LP and the DCC version does indeed sound drier, with more natural presence than the other two counterparts. The MoFi SACD is closer to the original LP. That said, I would still recommend MoFi's "Stage Fright", as well as all their other hyrid SACD reissues from The Band catalog. This, for me, is a no-brainer for those who have SACD players. Sure, the MoFied discs are expensive but, when these limited edition reissues go out of print, they'll command at least triple that price on the resale market. While the price keeps me from buying all of the MoFi reissues from other artists, The Band SACDs are essential to me, especially as SACD and other high-resolution reissues have become rare in recent years.


Entered at Sun Jun 5 16:59:10 CEST 2011 from (79.202.171.31)

Posted by:

Norbert

Location: lookin' up
Web: My link

Subject: building on Mars

Anyway, meanwhile, as life prevails, someone just discovered Bio Station Alpha on Mars (source de telegraaf, link).


Entered at Sun Jun 5 16:29:55 CEST 2011 from (173.178.214.140)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Don't worry about genres, John D. I kept my list to five albums and already want to change a couple of them. The only constant was the book I chose "The Path Between The Seas". Have a great day everyone. Had a five mile walk, weeded the front flower beds and added soil to them. Off to pick up three plants to replace some dead ones. Definitely a shower is in the cards and maybe a trip to the gym. Then barbeque for supper. Can't wait to get to work tomorrow so I can rest!


Entered at Sun Jun 5 15:20:39 CEST 2011 from (91.42.236.119)

Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Philosophy,

p.s. Al, you’re right, the best philosophy your own philosophy, that’s philosophy you believe in and can relate to, in fact that’s the philosophers philosophy at the moment. I agree also philosophy is for everybody, and philosophy is great cause everything is philosophy and philosophy is everything, thus it is all nothing and so nothing is everything …. ( ).

I personally have my best philosophy moments on the couch after a rough night. Must have something to do with high blood pressure, the body pumping the alcohol out and\or the vanes are, for one reason or another wider or so, creating more room for a steady, down to earth, philosophy flow.

Anyway didn’t dark and damp Liverpool derived Beatles, Austin Healeys and whiskey?


Entered at Sun Jun 5 15:15:13 CEST 2011 from (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Top 20 list

OK Al, I'll work on that. I scrolled back and saw Peter's; therefore it is a Top 20 ROCK list. I'm glad I read his list; otherwise I might have slipped in a couple of other genre's. This is going to be hard. After the top 3 or 4, the others will be in no particular order. Impossible to say what my 16th; or 17th top album would be; in order. Going to take me a day; or so as my son is visiting.


Entered at Sun Jun 5 14:43:01 CEST 2011 from (41.97.244.148)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: morning clip

Band Connection : song clip to any GBer who is proud the clip is specially linked for him / her


Entered at Sun Jun 5 14:25:32 CEST 2011 from (91.42.226.144)

Posted by:

Norbert

...content lost... ason or another wider or so, creating more room for a steady, down to earth, philosophy flow.

Anyway didn’t dark and damp Liverpool derived Beatles, Austin Healeys and whiskey?


Entered at Sun Jun 5 15:15:13 CEST 2011 from (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Top 20 list

OK Al, I'll work on that. I scrolled back and saw Peter's; therefore it is a Top 20 ROCK list. I'm glad I read his list; otherwise I might have slipped in a couple of other genre's. This is going to be hard. After the top 3 or 4, the others will be in no particular order. Impossible to say what my 16th; or 17th top album would be; in order. Going to take me a day; or so as my son is visiting.


Entered at Sun Jun 5 14:43:01 CEST 2011 from (41.97.244.148)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: morning clip

Band Connection : song clip to any GBer who is proud the clip is specially linked for him / her


Entered at Sun Jun 5 14:25:32 CEST 2011 from (91.42.226.144)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: Florentino Goikoetxea

Florentino Goikoetxea is a brave man. This legendary, ox strong, Bask smuggler guided more than 300 refugees over the Pyrenees during WWII. Got caught and than freed by the little Belgium Elvire de Greef. Anyway, the Band link:

He then lived the rest of his life at the foot of the Pyrenees, sipping wine (see the link, he is The Band!)

Al, thanks that’s certainly one of the reasons of a good life ;-)


Entered at Sun Jun 5 13:42:32 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Lists

And Jeff's too, of course

It goes without saying.

So why did I say it

Fecked if I know

:-0)


Entered at Sun Jun 5 13:34:08 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Same goes for you John D

Where's yer feckin list?

Your's could arguably be the most informed along with PB's, Pv's and DP's.

:-0)


Entered at Sun Jun 5 13:17:23 CEST 2011 from (99.254.209.45)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Levon/Ryman DVD

I bought my copy of the Levon/Ryman DVD yesterday. What an enjoyable afternoon; watching this video. Especially watching Levon do the newer material (the old timey) Americana material. It's just MADE for him at this time of his life. He is truly a legend of the music business.

Beat cancer and go on to win two grammy's and be on top at 71. Good on him. He's keepin' on the good foot for sure.


Entered at Sun Jun 5 13:11:29 CEST 2011 from (82.42.175.156)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: The meaning of life - good and bad medicine

Cheers for that Norb and Jeffrey.

"....As a kid you didn’t care. That’s what we knew. Every woman in our street was a mother if mine wasn’t there. If you fell over they’d pick you up. If you had a cough they’d be putting cough mixture in you...."

I've lived in two places long enough to integrate fully. Liverpool and the valleys of South wales.

In both of them the underlying humanity of Ringo's words apply to the hilt. I guess from somewhere in the back of his bonce, Ringo has clearly lifted their essence from Gerry Marsden's Ferry Cross The Mersey lyrics - "we don't care what your name is boy, we'll never send you away". Overtly sentimental? Sure - yet true all the same.

Both Liverpool and the valleys and the fantastic folk who live within those places were and remain wondrous living breathing edifices to the human spirit. Despite - possibly because of - their struggles merely to keep their heads above water. Perhaps - nay almost certainly - there are other places - and crucially other folks - like them. With my own limited meanderings I've just never come across them for long enough to be sure.

The irony, of course, is that for all his spouting of peace, love and understanding Ringo remains the self-immersed, spoilt brat who was simply there to be doted upon by the people who lavished him with their own hard earned cough medicine. He never actually blossomed to become one of those amazing folks who dispensed such medicine to him when he needed it.

That said, he did become a fabulous drummer - despite what many knobheads have said down the years. So maybe that was his own way of dispensing good medicine.

Aren't half-baked philosophies just wonderful.

:-0)

BTW - Jeff - where's yer feckin top 20 album list?????

And Serenity - And a few others too. You know who you feckinwell are!!!

:-0)


Entered at Sun Jun 5 11:52:27 CEST 2011 from (79.202.179.151)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: “No, I’m a drummer, I’m off.”

Thanks Jeff0 for the Ringo link. Didn't know George Harrison wanted to start a garage and the part about (the love of the common people in) Liverpool is wunderful.

" 'We didn't think it would last... Even Paul thought, "Well, I'll probably end up as a writer." So did John (Lennon). George (Harrison) was going to have a garage'

‘You only have to go walking round there to see where I lived. It was dark and damp. I have to tell you those lyrics on my song The Other Side Of Liverpool are true: “The house I lived in was cold and damp/My mother was a barmaid/At the age of three, my father was gone.”

'As a kid you didn’t care. That’s what we knew. Every woman in our street was a mother if mine wasn’t there. If you fell over they’d pick you up. If you had a cough they’d be putting cough mixture in you. I had a great childhood, besides being a little ill. But then you move out. I grew up. I’m not a child. I’ve moved on.’ "



Entered at Sun Jun 5 09:40:02 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Mobile Fidelity Stage Fright

My appetite was whetted by the discussion between Adam and Rob, so I went to look at Mobile Fidelity's site. If their digital engineering is reflected in website design, then I'll have to pass. I've tried three times and as soon as I try to search or scroll, that little revolving coloured wheel appears and I have to Force quit Safari. I know some websites "prefer" other browsers, but designing something that doesn't work on Safari (the default Mac browser) is insanity, especially when you see that in shopping for high-end audio, Mac users will be a greater proportion than normal! Will try later. It's not on amazon. I have the 24 KT gold CD remaster. Is it really worth another one? David? You have both.

On SACD and Pink Floyd, I only have "Money" on the free Rolling Stone covermount disc that came when SACD was first launched. That's 5.1 surround and sensational with the cash registers revolving around you, but as often with 5.1 audio, it's a bit "Wow! Listen to this!" rather than "I think I'll sit back and enjoy some music."

Rob's point about vinyl is important. I have a friend (who's now moved away unfortunately) whose main hobby was his hifi system. He had about £3000 invested in the turntable part alone before you even began to look at amps, preamps and speakers and cable. You have to hear an LP on a set up like that to appreciate the full quality of vinyl. The difference is way greater than between CD players, though having said that, he also had the ultra high end audiophile CD player, which reveals that it's not just about reading zeroes and ones.

We are living through a strange reverse era on hifi quality (quality is getting lower), where people are listening on iPods and in ear speakers to MP3s, so hearing only a fraction of the music. The same's happening to TV, where grainy YouTube videos blown up are changing our acceptability of poor quality. I have a very good in car system, and I only record onto iTunes in "Apple Lossless" rather than MP3s or MP4s. The system has a dedicated iPod connection, and brings playlists up on the satNav screen. It's great. But if I put a CD into the CD player, it sounds better (not "way better" but still better), even though it's still ones and zeroes. An audio producer friend explained that it's partly down to Apple Lossless still not being full quality, but mostly down to the D/A converter for the CD being better than the one for the iPod.

Anyway, what I'd love is the system at a vintage car day, with one of the original 7" car turntables! They didn't work at all in fact and lasted months rather than years, but what a concept!


Entered at Sun Jun 5 05:36:55 CEST 2011 from (64.12.116.204)

Posted by:

PutEmUp(Friend0

Web: My link

Subject: Scouser Talking


Entered at Sat Jun 4 22:53:41 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: One track mind

PV: I wonder if it was recorded before he left, or whether he did it more recently as a gesture?


Entered at Sat Jun 4 22:39:04 CEST 2011 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Simone is just on one track.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 21:11:43 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Peter V / Simon Felice

Peter, I'm confused. There is a new Felice Brothers album in the MOJO reviews section, with no talk of personnel. Is Simon still a member or has he flown the Felice nest on a mutually exclusive basis?


Entered at Sat Jun 4 17:36:23 CEST 2011 from (41.97.159.178)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: John Elefante / Steve Walsh

the period when John Elefante replaced the legendary Steve Walsh in Kansas, for feud reasons on both vocals and keyboards, on some albums and specially on tour, i can make no difference between the two, at least in the linked performance of "Portrait, He Knew", a song about Albert Einstein

on the other hand, this band opted for total excess in any instrument, and it is my all time favorite Rock band


Entered at Sat Jun 4 16:40:49 CEST 2011 from (74.82.68.33)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: The Oher Side of the Tracks

What mastering engineers like Rob LoVerde and Shawn Britton at MoFi seek to achieve is a sound close to the original master tapes. Sure they listen to the original LP and CD copies as a reference point but, with their superior analog-to-digital equipment chain, they can come close to reproducing what was originally captured on the master tapes. They avoid the modern trend of applying dynamic range compression to make loud, fatiguing CDs and they apply equalization sparingly, or not at all. Like the premier mastering engineer Steve Hoffman, who works on projects for other labels, their goal is to breathe a breath of life into the reissues, bringing the sound close to the vividness of what was originally played by the musicians. I would also point out that Robert Ludwig prepared a reference master for "Music From Big Pink", but it was Capitol's engineer(s) who prepared a production copy of the master, which reduced the bass level, used to cut the original LP. I'm still doing some "Stage Fright" comparisons, so I'll chime in later.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 04:53:01 CEST 2011 from (70.26.121.186)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Cxn: Make it, 'Don't TAKE it . . . " No Pickup.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 04:50:34 CEST 2011 from (70.26.121.186)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Note to Serenity= Don't it so seriously, Vi. I still love you, you crazy lady.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 04:47:10 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Adam2

Fair enough then! Now that you have made that argument I may well shell out, for MFBP only because that's my favourite GH album. Not just Chest Fever, either - that piano and organ intro to We Can Talk is my favourite 15 seconds or so of music by the OQ. That and the two vocal parts on Katie's Been Gone, anyway.

But you've answered another question that I ought to have known the answer to all along - and, I'm afraid that it does again showcase a difference of opinion, but nevermind - which is why do I find so many modern albums fatiguing to listen to? It is because, unlike the days of mastering for vinyl, the extreme bass (bass guitar, kick drum) and top of the rhythm section (cymbals) is able to be presented in so much more detail and fidelity than an old comfortable LP, where some pretty serious limiting and compression was needed to keep it all within a vinyl "bandwidth". It's often too loud and brash for me now; like the bass and drums "in the pocket" as the old saying goes. Even pretty overblown examples - we might as well take Bonham's exhalted "When the Lavvy Breaks" snare and kick - never HURT to listen to; they were just reigned in nicely and not too coarse, however uprfront and impressive the aim was.

One thing that springs to the fore is a new found respect for the old school mastering engineer - it's far easier to achieve separation when there's a bigger spectrum to play with. That they managed to get such good results in the vinyl standard days, with less sonic "room" for everybody without some toe-treading is pretty impressive. Hats off to the old guard, it must be said.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 03:52:07 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

RTO - I clearly see the discussion we're having now, and it makes perfect sense both ways. The vinyl LP was the original format the album was released on, and as you said for better or worse, that's how it should be presented. I can totally understand that argument.

For me, presenting the album in the highest fidelity possible, using the latest technology, and providing the most clear, detailed recording possible is my preference. It would be interesting what my opinion would be had I grown up on the original LP releases, but I honestly think my opinion would be the same. I would have been much more used to the LPs, but I think I would still prefer the advances in remastering technology as they became available, in order to hear beyond the original LPs.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 03:28:38 CEST 2011 from (96.30.174.20)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Link is to a WGB reunion concert. Guitar player, Sandy Morris, recently awarded a Doctor of Letters from an institution he dropped out of forty years ago. Sandy has been on local radio and TV to no end the last couple weeks. Said he's never had real job. His original inspiration was Scottie Moore. Later inspiration was his cousins' band , The Ravens, with their snazzy suits and matching Karmann Ghias.

Sandy's career spans The Philadelphia Cream Cheese Band (they had a light show, first I ever saw) and Lukey's Boat (won Air Canada's Battle of the Bands c1970 but were deemed 'not fit' to represent the country at Osaka's World Fair) to the Newfoundland Symphony Orchestra (playing his compositions).

Sandy's still fully booked. Classical, jazz, blues, trad, folk, greasy r & r. Workin man. Ran into him last month. Shoulder length hair has turned grey. White shirt and tie though. Was NOT driving a Karmann Ghia.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 03:26:19 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Adam 2

And that's where we will have to differ. I don't buy that MoFi's idea of what the album was meant to sound like is the definitive rendition. It was mastered for vinyl, and better or worse, that was how it was intended to be presented. It's easy enough to go chucking little scraps in here and there to make everybody go "wow!". I'll bet that at some point you'll go back to the original and enjoy the simplicity of it like a breath of fresh air.

It's a different ballgame in some cases: a Pink Floyd album, for instance, where the production and individual sounds were there presented every bit as urgently as the songs themselves. I can throughly believe that a high quality digital edition is the way to enjoy something like that - something more conceptual where frankly having the album spread on two separate sides probably got in the way of the envisaged blueprint.

At least we are not dealing with the atrocities of the Zappa catalogue, though - where Frank would upgrade parts that he didn't think were up to digital transfer with shiny, new replacements by his then-current band members. Frank was a great man, but sometimes he got a bit crazy.....


Entered at Sat Jun 4 03:15:43 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

RTO - The setup I played my mint 1970 Stage Fright LP on is modest, I'll admit. It's my father's gear, and it's been awhile since he's had it out and set up, so I really can't specify the gear itself.

The MoFi's DO go beyond simple remastering. The sound goes beyond what the original vinyl releases were capable of. As I mentioned, the Music From Big Pink 1968 LP had to have the bass tamed considerably in order to prevent overloading the grooves. The MoFi SACD corrects this, presenting the bass exactly as it was heard in the studio - deep, low, defined, warm, etc. Similarly, very subtle details are revealed on these SACDs - the layers of instruments are so clearly presented, and so crisp and detailed. Another example: on the MoFi Big Pink SACD, I heard Garth's organ pedals more clearly than ever before on the intro to We Can Talk. That's something I've never even heard on the other versions.

The MoFi Stage Fright, like all the other releases, presents the album with a much wider soundstage, much more detail and clarity in all the instrument tracks, plus the warmth that vinyl provides. I just don't buy that original LPs are automatically better. Sometimes even the original LPs weren't pressed from the absolute best sources to begin with, or as in the example above, the source had to be toned down in order to get it on the LP format. These SACDs go beyond the original LPs and don't try to reproduce THEIR sound - but rather the sound of the actual recording sessions, the natural sound of the instruments, what was exactly on the master tapes, etc. And that is what I prefer. I don't have an expensive system, but these SACDs sound absolutely amazing through just a decent CD player and a nice set of headphones (the Grado SR-225s in my case).


Entered at Sat Jun 4 03:14:15 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: westcoaster

No, it's Victoria - but Sybil is my maternal grandmother's name; still with us at the ripe old age of (as of last weekend) 108.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 03:06:23 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Just like Faulty Towers

Rob! You get your ass out there and get that gawd damn garden in shape, or that good lookin' lady will be out there beatin; you about the ears with a long English cucumber........her name isn't Sibyle is it:):):)???????


Entered at Sat Jun 4 02:17:17 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: westcoaster

See, there you go. I was all done swearing and that and then you mentioned your damned garden, reminding me of the jobs that Mrs RTO has for me to do in our shitty little labour intensive, accursed and god-forsaken back yard this weekend.

Just when I was getting all quiet and peaceful and you had to stir me up again....


Entered at Sat Jun 4 02:08:21 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Uproar! AND!.........shitty weather

Youze guys just behave! Swearin' all the gawd damn time.....fightin' misbehavin.......SHAMEFUL!!!!!:):):)

Hello JQ!, HASN'T IT BEEN THE SHITS! I just now am getting my garden working half assed. This sunshine coast has been anything but. Every time I start getting grumbly about it, I look at all these poor folks with tornadoes, fires, and floods, so I count my blessings I guess. Hope your keeping well down there.

I think in a couple of weeks or so, Susan & I are going to take a drive up to Juneau to look at a boat that has really caught my eye. Nice drive for the scenery this time of year.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 01:59:53 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Adam2

If you are going to lay a "No f***ing way!" on the table, I'll raise you a "b***ocks!!" and enquire politely as to what kind/quality of turntable and cartridge you have heard an original mint vinyl played on?

David P is our resident respected audiophile and even he says that these here Mobile Fidelity (ever heard one of their LPs? They WERE something!) CDs are close to the original issues, but not better.

The thing is, it is easier to be won over by a nice CD because you don't need to spend as much to hear a difference. A decent $300 machine will do a fine job. Start finding yourself a Michell Gyrodec, or a nice old Garrard and an SME arm and all that lark and you're into money. But you will hear things of wonder, things that are far less rounded-up on even a decent digital offering. Worse still, the digital remasters are sometime over compensated. Though I throughly enjoyed the CD reissues of The Beatles, in particular Abbey Road, repeated listen has found it to be a little over-gratuitous and "kitchen sink" orientated. If that's what you like then I take your point, but it is heading towards a remix, not a remaster.

Of course, theres the odd crackle on a 30 year old record. But I read a lovely analogy on the net somewhere once - "if you go to see an orchestra, people in the audience cough and clear their throats. It doesn't ruin the orchestra for you, and neither should any imperfections ruin a listen to a well-mastered record on a decent turntable"...


Entered at Sat Jun 4 01:29:57 CEST 2011 from (166.205.142.20)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Westcoaster -

You mention "nice days". I'd reckon our weather down here us similar to yours and today is the nicest day since last September, tommorow is meant to hit 80. This fall-winter-spring has been the worst since we got here; it's been tough to hold to our standard line: "the rain never bothers us" this time round - you too?


Entered at Sat Jun 4 00:14:43 CEST 2011 from (216.114.128.38)

Posted by:

Mike & Kim Hayward

Web: My link

RR a "Level IV" artist per Scene.


Entered at Sat Jun 4 00:09:17 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

RTO - I'll have to respectfully disagree, and say "No f***ing way!" I respect your opinion but I think that's an extremely misguided way to look at it. The Band MoFi remasters literally sound better than the original LPs. I have a pristine 1970 Ludwig LP of "Stage Fright", and agree that it's great sounding. But the MoFi remasters, using 2011 audiophile technology and the original master tapes, are just mind blowing. I mean, I'm not trying to rave about these for no reason, but they truly are mind blowing!

Using "Stage Fright" as the example: the 2011 MoFi remaster literally provides a more beautiful sound than any other release of the title, 1970 vinyl included. Audiophiles love vinyl, but in the hands of a company like MoFi, "digital" does NOT mean inferior. The MoFi beautifully reveals EXACTLY what was on those original master tapes in 1970. I'm having a hard time describing it, because the sound is just so stunning that it seems silly to even try. With the MoFi you get the beautiful remastering that just reveals everything in the music - you can clearly hear Garth's keyboard textures in microscopic detail, Rick's fretless bass is just SO deep and warm sounding, Robbie's guitar so crisp and stinging. It's a revelation. The MoFi is universes beyond any previous CD issue, and because of the added clarity, detail, and preservation of the low and high frequencies, makes it better than even the original LP.

Of course it is common to hear that back in the '60s/'70s, LPs were made from slightly inferior tapes/copies, the sound had to be tamed in order to fit the LP format (remember Bob Ludwig's taming of Rick's bass on the "Big Pink" LP, only to have it restored to all its deep, rumbling glory on the MoFi SACD remaster?)

I apologize for being so awestruck by these hybrid SACDs, but they are the best sounding versions of the original Band albums ever made, in my opinion. They are beautiful sounding!


Entered at Fri Jun 3 23:28:59 CEST 2011 from (92.238.33.140)

Posted by:

Rob the Organ

Subject: Mo Fi

I'll stay out of this. There is no point in getting excited about a digital master of anything that wasn't recorded digitally in the first place.

Capitol first pressing? Yep, that's your man....


Entered at Fri Jun 3 22:11:10 CEST 2011 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Stage Fright

Adam2: I'll have to compare the MoFi version with the excellent 1994 DCC gold CD version mastered by Steve Hoffman, which featured some different mixes. Both of those audiophile discs blow away the other CD versions and rank up there with the original Capitol LP version mastered by Robert Ludwig.


Entered at Fri Jun 3 21:24:15 CEST 2011 from (75.34.43.200)

Posted by:

Adam2

Subject: MoFi Stage Fright

David P - My copy doesn't have a booklet. I think the MoFi Big Pink doesn't have a booklet either, but the rest of them do if I remember (the Cahoots has one for the lyrics (!), Rock Of Ages has photos, and Northern Lights has musician credits). The MoFi Stage Fright does have a soft, textured cover on the mini-LP though, and I love the reproduction of the cabin photo on the inside of the mini-LP. The packaging is beautiful, and the sound is just audiophile heaven for me. The Band on MoFi is just amazing.

Finally hearing this version, where you can truly hear everything on the master tapes, really gives me an appreciation for Todd Rundgren's engineering on the album. He really knew what he was doing. Stage Fright really stands out as a beautiful sounding album now. It always sounded a bit tinny to me, thin, but on this edition the bass is so full and warm, and the high frequencies give spectacular detail to the performances. It's amazing how much the sound differs from "The Band" album. Rundgren and Glyn Johns really took The Band's sound and polished it beautifully - so contemporary and fresh sounding. The MoFi description is so right when it says "MoFi's remaster is the most balanced and punchy album in the Band's catalogue".


Entered at Fri Jun 3 18:30:57 CEST 2011 from (24.108.253.172)

Posted by:

westcoaster

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Ships.....They just keep getting bigger!

I don't know any sight where I could upload these except on Facebook. So I put them on there for everyone to see.

The other day, (on a nice day for a change) one of the new Disney Line Cruise ships came by right in front of Alert Bay as I came south with my barge. As I talked to the ship's pilot, he said make sure you get a shot of the stern. Donald Duck & Goofy were hanging over the stern with paint brushes, (pretty funny).

They are such good images, you can see them Norman Wesley Jones, on Facebook. Any one who may want one.

tugmanatshawdotca


Entered at Fri Jun 3 18:21:49 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: The Teachings of Don Levon: An Arqui Way of Knowledge

JRR's twitter feed said "I enjoyed this review . . ."
I found it more of the same-old, except for: "the legendary . . . ensemble whose musical foundation was built through the teacher/seeker relationship between its Arkansan drummer Levon Helm and Robertson."


Entered at Fri Jun 3 17:01:21 CEST 2011 from (41.97.200.65)

Posted by:

Empty Now

the text goes at the opposite direction of the original, should I say


Entered at Fri Jun 3 16:59:21 CEST 2011 from (41.97.200.65)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Bambino - English version, crooner

of course so unanimous acclaimed song had got its English version, i found it by pure chance

linked above the English version : title "The Man Who Plays The Mandolino"

Singer : Dean Martin

it is the sole translated cover where the text frankly differs from the Napolitan original, though the basic ingredients are preserved.

the dozen other languages translated covers and hits that i heard, kept above all the spirit of the text at its original purity


Entered at Fri Jun 3 16:51:15 CEST 2011 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: that ol' crazy Asian war

Bill M: for all the Robertsonian leitmotif about rebelling against the rebellion, the Hawks really were swimming against the tide of dodgers when they moved to the US of A. Levon even more so - didn't he have to get (gulp!) married to keep the board at bay?

At [My link], an exposition on the plight of the returning, damaged warrior. A top-ten hit for Johnny Darrell in '67, covered with possumnian pathos by Geo. Jones in '68 or 9. Et al. This cover from Dale Hawkins (cousin to Rompin', Coleman and Jay) really brings home just how close to the edge Ruby's old man is . . . so naturally the arrangement is a high-tempo rockabilly speed-polka . . . or something . . . .


Entered at Fri Jun 3 15:56:36 CEST 2011 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Next stop is Vietnam

RtO: Yes the festival-chant stuff is tiresome now, and often was then, but I think we have to allow for the fact that a mostly male rock festival audience in the US in 1970 meant you had tens of thousands of guys with every reason to be worried shitless that the next piece of mail was going to


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