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Levon Helm: Ramble at the Ryman

The Band: Three of a Kind

Robbie Robertson: How to Become Clairvoyant

Garth Hudson Presents a Canadian Celebration of The Band

Levon Helm: Electric Dirt

Garth and Maud Hudson: Live at the Wolf

Pulse

Dirt Farmer

Elliot Landy's Woodstock Vision

The Band Guestbook, August 2013


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: I'm just a helpless romantic at heart


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Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Can you spell your own name

Apparently not.


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Posted by:

Joaan

Subject: Summer songs

John D you really hit a chord with that one. 16 years old and crying because The love of my life was spending his summer in a different summer camp. At sixteen, life is high drams.

Another favorite is Chad and Jerermy' Summer Song


Entered at Sat Aug 31 17:46:16 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: With Thanks & Romance

Thank you very much Carl (Bonk) and Mike, well I'm living anyway Carl. Can't play the guitar right now. I pulled a muscle in my right bycept, and man is it sore. (I don't think I spelled bicept right.....I don't know(:(:)

Gawd Damn!.....'ol John is becoming a romantic in his golden years, (have you hit those yet John?) Talkin about those Lazy - Hazy - Crazy days of summer. 1962 ..... my first love, they came up to Roberts Creek in the summer. A friend of mine's Dad had a couple summer cabins on the beach he rented and these folks from North Van came up for summers.

Her name was Ronnie MacMillan long fire red hair and a body that would make you shudder. We were both 18. We spent nights on the beach talking about every thing imaginable, (to 18 year olds). Going away to work in logging camps does not keep close relation ships.

Ronnie drifted in and out my life.....she became a guitar player and singer, could sing in Spanish and French as well as English. Last time I saw her was on the ferry from Horseshoe Bay to Langdale. It was a hot summer, 1990 I think. I walked up on the top sundeck of the ferry, and there was Ronnie, looking as gorgeous as ever. Sitting with a very beautiful black lady eating a bunch of grapes. I walked over and stood in front of her. She just looked up for a second, her friend looked sort of perplexed.

Ronnie just got up slowly, wrapped her arms around my neck and gave me a very long kiss........what a great memory.......Ronnie is dead now.


Entered at Sat Aug 31 16:22:15 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: ASP CD 2 If Not For You

Although I have come used to the "official" version of If Not For You; over the years. I find the Alternate; with only piano and violin; much more intimate. I could see this being a serenade to the one you love. Again it's so much more intimate and has already become one of my favourites on this package. I have to add that the violin is arranged beautifully.


Entered at Sat Aug 31 15:52:45 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Great Story Peter / Hallmark Sessions

That's a great story Peter. Can't replace those memories. Look I realize I came late to the fair; on the Lenny Breau Hallmark Sessions; but I really need to make a point here. They say Rick was 17; when this session was done. Levon was 2 years older. You've got to hear this record. Levon and Rick were Rock-A-Billy, Rock 'n' Roll kids. However their jazz playing to me is way beyond their years. This I believe is really a significant piece of work for them; who were playing a form of music that was not their usual thing. Jazz lovers, check them out.


Entered at Sat Aug 31 15:37:34 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

John D, Summer of 62. I worked the six weeks at "Goods Inwards" at a Motor Wholesalers, lifting tyres and oil drums. On week six, I finally had enough money for a record player, and I bought two records secondhand from a friend, but the first full price record I ever bought was Sealed With A Kiss. My copy has a neat number "3" inscribed on the sleeve. The B-side was Summer Job (I love my summer job, taking care of the one I love), and my first concert was Brian Hyland, Tommy Roe and Little Eva. I have to say that Little Eva blew everyone else off the stage, the best by a mile.


Entered at Sat Aug 31 12:41:47 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: The End of Summer & Summer Love

How many of you remember; when we were teenagers; what we used to call, "the 3 week wonder?" Those were summer romances with young girls that for whatever reason came to an end a the end of summer; on this August 31st.. I will now bring back the lyrics of Brian Hyland for the first and last time:

Though we've got to say good-bye
For the summer
Darling, I promise you this
I'll send you all my love
Everyday in a letter
Sealed with a kiss

CHORUS:
Yes it's gonna be a cold, lonely summer
But I'll fill the emptiness
I'll send you all my dreams
Everyday in a letter
Sealed with a kiss

I'll see you in the sunlight
I'll hear your voice everywhere
I'll run to tenderly hold you
But, Darlin' you won't be there

I don't wanna say good-bye
For the summer
Knowing the love we'll miss
Let us make a pledge
To meet in September
And seal it with a kiss

(instrumental)

(CHORUS)
Sealed with a kiss
Sealed with a kiss
Sealed with a kiss

You see what happens when you wake up at 5:00 a.m.; in the morning? I'll probably regret this post by 7:00 a.m. With apologies to Jan :-)


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Finally

I now have my "Deluxe" package and am catching up to y'all.


Entered at Sat Aug 31 09:22:18 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Man

Today's Toppermost (linked) has a marvellous essay by "Rob The Organ" on the under-rated Welsh band Man. That, and yesterday's Fairport Convention while you're there, are well worth a morning read.


Entered at Sat Aug 31 09:18:08 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Mojo. September. Jon Andersen of Yes joins the elite band of musicians of taste when asked his all time favourite albums: Blue, Sgt. Pepper, Music From Big Pink (+ Sibelius, Mahler)


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Arrrgh, Normie, has you ever been to seeeeeeeeeeea?


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Posted by:

BONK

Subject: Norm

Happy belated birthday to Norm Jones. A living legend on the west coast and not to shabby a geetar player.


Entered at Sat Aug 31 03:07:38 CEST 2013 from (99.141.56.73)

Posted by:

Adam

Elliot Mazer's comments were made on his Facebook page. He also responded to me and said "Some of those things are true" in response to my earlier guessing game.


Entered at Sat Aug 31 01:34:50 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: I'm Not There

In 1969 (I think it was), they got a copyist to produce a lead sheet for "I'm Not There" and to transcribe the lyrics - a thankless task if ever there was one. The copyright was registered on 2 January 1970.

The title has varied. Yes, the tape box apparently said "I'm Not There, I'm Gone", whereas, on the safety reel, it's called "But It's Not Here". The official copyright document gives it as "I'm Not There (1956)" but the Copyright Office catalogue gives it just as "I'm Not There", the title used in Todd Haynes film.

Incidentally, before the recording was included on the film's OST album, it had been officially available for listening on the bobdylan.com website in the late 1990s.



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Posted by:

David P

Subject: I'm Not There

Reportedly Garth originally wrote down the title as "I'm Not There, I'm Gone" on the tape box.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Jed … thank you! I thought I was the only one. CD1 and CD3 have taken up so much time that CD2 still hasn't had enough attention. I thought it was only me … I've only sampled bits of the (original) CD4 because I can't take CD1 off.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 21:40:25 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Speaking of speculation, perhaps the Bob's original title was "I'm Not There As A Lyricist - For This One At Least (and I do wish you wouldn't clap so hard)".


Entered at Fri Aug 30 20:56:15 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: "I'm Not There"

Bill M: speculation is fun. I hear beaucoup de bass as well - which I'd describe as "not distinctively Dankoesque" -- it seems busier and less melodic than the regular run of Rick. Could be for any number of reasons, including maybe Rick's not playing it.

It's funny that the line on Dylan at one time was "genius lyricist; pity about the voice." -- "I'm Not There" is the one among the "lost basement songs" that lay listeners love -- which indicates to me 1) Bob's a terrific, expressive, emotive singer with 2) a very pretty melody / progression to work with, despite 3) a lyric with no discernible meaning.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 20:49:10 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: Al Kooper - turning on a Hammond

Around the 16.00 mark, Al Kooper says how complex turning on a Hammond was. This was mentioned here a few days back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01IE0vVN08


Entered at Fri Aug 30 20:41:26 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, Rick is definitely playing bass on this version of ING. This is the version that Neil Young got from one of "Dylan's people" (Possibly Garth) and was used in the movie of the same name.


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Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Is it true that Andersen originally titled his song "These Boots Were Made For Drinking"?


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: sadavid

Thanks you so much for that information sadavid. It's interesting that the stereo versions were bonus cuts on the CD release.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 20:14:43 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Archives / Fire

I wonder what material was lost; in the fire that Garth and Maude had a few years ago. There was talk of losing some of his archives.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 20:05:22 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Vinyl Siding: 'Bout Changes 'n Things

Back in April I picked up the exclusive Record Store Day release of a 7" vinyl Dylan single of the demo version of "Wigwam" backed by his cover of Eric Andersen's "Thirsty Boots." It was sort of a sneak preview of the just released Bootleg Series Vol. 10.

Mr. Andersen's version of "Thirsty Boots" was included on his 1966 Vanguard LP "Bout Changes 'n Things." The following year he re-recorded essentially the same album with different takes and sequence, featuring additional musicians, and released the LP "Bout Changes 'n Things Take 2."


Entered at Fri Aug 30 19:56:23 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Nice recording of "I'm Not There". I hear only guitar (Dylan, presumably), organ (Hudson) and, after the 4-minute mark, some piano (which could also be Hudson, I suppose) - meaning that at least Robertson and Danko, and possibly also Manuel, were asked to sit this one out. Such close attention to instrumentation (as opposed to much of the BT) suggests to me that this recording was intended for broader consumption.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 19:39:18 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Thanks for posting the notes from the Lenny-meets-Hawks session. Rick and Levon did a terrific job, all considered. I think the notes (or maybe it was the Lenny bio) acknowledge entertainer Joey Hollingsworth's role in this. Joey initially encouraged Lenny to go east and link up with his own manager, George Sukornyk. Joey also knew Hawkins, so may have had a say in the decision to hire Rick and Levon; Garth had previously backed Joey up back in their mutual hometown of London, but the Lenny session took place before Garth moved to Toronto. The sax-player on Joey's first 45, from '59, was Pat Riccio (sr), who also played sax on the Hawks' first record, on which they backed Hamilton singer Dallas Harms. (This was just before the original "Hey Bo Diddley" with Hawkins, I'm told.) On his second 45 he was backed by Hawkins' back-up group post Levon and the Hawks, the Disciples.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 19:20:50 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: ASP-Disc 4-The Album

Peter-have you listened to the remastered album yet? I've also listened all week & have yet to listen to disc 4.Perhaps today!


Entered at Fri Aug 30 19:17:16 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

I believe the Basement Tape copy that Neil Young received by accident from Elliot Mazer is a first generation copy from the original tapes. As the unearthed "I'm Not There" version provided by Mr. Young shows, it was a clean, straight forward transfer.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 18:56:52 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Another Self Portrait

I've hardly played anything else this week. What is astonishing is the "Blind Willie McTell" factor, i.e. Dylan scrapping the better stuff he's recorded for an album. On the first CD, look at the stuff rejected from Self-Portrait: Pretty Saro, Annie's Going To Sing Her Song, Railroad Bill, Thirsty Boots. This Evening So Soon, These Hands, House Carpenter. All great performances and lovely songs. If those had gone on Self Portrait, it would up there in critical estimation, and he'd have established a sense of stripped down versions … rather as Neil Young runs at least three styles from album to album.


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Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Breau Hallmark

John D: from George B. Sukornyk's liner notes (see [My link]):

"I spoke at length with Lenny and told him he was wasting his time in Winnipeg. I invited him to come to Toronto, stay at my home, and told him I would arrange a recording session so that we could use the tapes as a promotional demo.

Lenny flew to Toronto in early November 1961. I booked a recording studio at Hallmark Studios for November 28, 1961. On the day before, I made arrangements to take Lenny to Ronnie Hawkin's home in Mississauga, in order to rehearse with Rick Danko, acoustic bassist, who played for Ronnie, and Levon Helm on drums. The rehearsal lasted about two hours with Lenny quickly running through the numbers with Rick and Levon that he contemplated recording.

"The Hallmark Sessions" were recorded on November 28, 1961. Lenny, Rick Danko and Levon Helm recorded the seven Jazz numbers in stereo. Lenny then recorded the two Country & Western numbers and the four Flamenco numbers in mono. What was astounding to the recording engineers, and to everyone present, was that Lenny played the entire Jazz session without any rehearsal or interruption. After a short coffee break, Lenny played the Country & Western numbers, changed guitars, and played the four Flamenco numbers - again, without rehearsal or interruption. What has been produced on this CD, is in my estimation, the purest and finest work that Lenny ever performed or recorded."


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: I post too quickly

OK. of the original 13 tracks (6 bonus tracks in stereo make it 19) I have found the first 7 to be the boys. Lenny then does some solo material. Over and out. Too much free time on my hands today.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Me Again

On the "all about jazz" site they refer to only the boys playing on 7 tracks. However; after just downloading it there is acoustic bass and drums on every cut so far and the only personnel listed are Lenny, Levon and Rick.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: According to CD Universe

According to CD Universe & other sites Levon and Rick play on all 19 tracks; not just 7.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Lenny Breau Hallmark Sessions Rick & Levon

Does anyone know the 7 tracks that Levon and Rick play on???????


Entered at Fri Aug 30 17:49:59 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Adam: Do you know if the 29 BT tracks that Grossman gave Mazer were dubs from original tapes that have turned up elsewhere already, or dubs from originals that haven't turned up otherwise, or original tapes? And were they Dylan+Hawks or just Hawks? It's reasonable to think that Garth would have documented the guys' own sessions as assiduously as he did the sessions with Dylan. Though surprisingly little has emerged, Big Pink wouldn't have been spun out of thin air.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 17:48:18 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ian

Thank you Ian.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 17:32:29 CEST 2013 from (193.63.86.253)

Posted by:

CD Bowie

Web: My link

Great discography! I am torn between 'The Last Waltz' and 'Cahoots' - I guess everyone has their favourite CDs.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 17:25:29 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Highway 61

The De Luxe box of ANOTHER SELF PORTRAIT has two appearances of the same basic performance.

I guess that they wanted to include a couple of Isle of Wight tracks on the basic 2-CD set (the version that most will buy and will continue to be available into the distant future) because there were IoW tracks on the original SELF PORTRAIT.

The inclusion of the Isle of Wight disc in the De Luxe box meant that duplication was inevitable.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 16:58:05 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Old Homestead

Yes, Levon's got released.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 16:50:50 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Canada just issued a new Robertson Davies stamp. Another old friend of the young Neil.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 16:42:41 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Asking again about Highway 61

The other day I posed the question why there are two versions of Highway 61; on ASP. One is on CD 2 away from the IOW CD. It is 6-7 seconds shorter. My question again is did they do the song twice; or did they decide to put two different takes. Just wondering?


Entered at Fri Aug 30 16:19:25 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Homegrown

Levon also played on at least one song from the "Homegrown" sessions.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 11:49:04 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: More Dave Davies

SHINDIG: Would The Kinks have been as good if there hadn't been that creative tension between you and Ray?

DAVE: I have no idea, but it's obvious that the YRGM guitar sound didn't just kickstart The kinks career, but also kickstarted Ray's career as a writer … it would have been better if Ray hadn't been in the band. Just joking, take it out. No leave it! All right, he did contribute a bit …

I think it's all said with a grin. By "The YRGM" guitar sound, he means HIS YRGM guitar sound.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 11:46:36 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: Elliot Mazer and The Basement Tapes

Look at the top line of the discography in this wki entry [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Mazer ]. I assume that Elliot himself has contributed to this.

Since we know that Dylan will be bringing out (what some of us have been calling) "The Big Box" later this year (all his albums remastered), I assume that Elliot has been working on the remastering of "The Basement Tapes" album.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 11:45:33 CEST 2013 from (92.18.175.201)

Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Lesser known Kinks Top Ten

Little Bit of Emotion, Living On A Thin Line, Scattered, Alcohol, Do It Again, State Of Confusion, Moments, Oklahoma USA, Strangers, Summer's Gone.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 11:36:21 CEST 2013 from (24.252.150.9)

Posted by:

Calvin

A funny quote from the younger Davies Brother Peter, especially considering that any Kinks fans know that for years he was the one pushing Ray, Mick and Pete (before his death) to do a Kinks reunion and the other ones were not interested.

Mick is too classy a guy to talk about it, but his involvement with the Kinks as a group (He still ran their studio for years after he left the group) was because of Dave.

Good guitar player, and as one reviewer said A guy who had the misfortune of being a good songwriter with a family member who was a great songwriter, but a bit of a nutjob and somewhat of an ass.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 10:58:18 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: White Line

Sebastian, could you check with your dad about this one? ("Shaky" Neil Young biography page 469) talking about the abandoned "Homegrown" album:

"Plus a bittersweet song called "White Line:" that Young had recorded as an acoustic duet with the Band's Robbie Robertson in England a few days before CSNY's Wembley show."

So that's 1974. I keep looking at news of Neil Young retrospectives and archive stuff looking for it. Apparently he announced in 2010 that he was "re-building" Homegrown for an archive release. The song was re-recorded with Crazy Horse for "Ragged Glory."


Entered at Fri Aug 30 10:53:18 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: IOW

I always liked the IOW tracks on Self Portrait. Pity they weren't released by themselves as I think a new live album by BD and The Band at regular prices would have sold quite well.

Sebastian, surely Robbie must have contributed to other Dylan songs as well? Always thought it was strange that Rick and Richard got co-credits while Robbie was the more profilic writer.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 10:44:11 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Brother Dave

You Kinks fans should glance at the short Dave Davies interview in "Shindig" this month (Nilsson cover). If you don't know Shindig, it used to be quite hard to find via record stores, but recently it's started appearing in W.H. Smith and other large newsagents. It's more esoteric and detailed than UNCUT or MOJO, and there is a very good Gene Clark piece in the same issue. The mag is a good one to try, but the Dave Davies is two pages only, so readable in store.

He has fun with the interview, so he's joking throughout. Then we get to the last question:

SHINDIG: Any chance of you, Ray and Mick taking the stage together this side of the old folks' home?

DAVE DAVIES: I don't want to play with boring fucking has-beens.

NB: He is British. This is what we find funny!

There are two trios of Kinks songs that are vital to any list (and I'll repeat this if one of you does do an article / list for Toppermost).

The first is You really Got Me / All Day & All of The Night / Tired of waiting. It's hard to separate the cumulative effect. I think Ray might be overstating when he says on stage that they're the "invention of both punk and heavy metal" because The Kingsmen or The McCoys were aiming for a similar effect with no connection, but they are still such influential records.

The Kinks at The Beeb box set was a revelation. The Beatles at the Beeb (BBC) are fascinating recordings, but clearly not as good as their studio work. The Kinks at the BBC may be the best versions of the early songs, because they're even more raucous.

The other trio is the "summer trio" all issued in successive early summers: Sunny Afternoon (June 1966), Waterloo Sunset (May 1967) and Days (June 1968). When I assembled year-by-year playlists on iTunes, each of those was in the first two or three selections I made for the year. Each was among the very best songs of the year too. Just those three are a towering achievement. Some songs bring a sense of sweet but sad nostalgia every time you hear them. Every time I hear Waterloo Sunset, I'm transported to that magic summer of 1967. Two songs do it instantly, the other being A Whiter Shade of Pale.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 10:39:34 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Elliot Mazer

Adam, where does that quote from Elliott Mazer come from and when was it made?


Entered at Fri Aug 30 04:38:12 CEST 2013 from (24.252.150.9)

Posted by:

Calvin

Very Good List Todd, except for You Really Got Me every song was on my initial list of 31 before I started to whittle down.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 03:52:13 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Annie

Been out of the loop on a great holiday. Just getting to hear streams of 'Another Self Portrait'. Loving it so far, 'Highway 61', 'Masterpiece', 'Pretty Saro', 'Belle Isle' but especially 'Annie's Going To Sing Her Song'. I hadn't heard this song in forty years, never heard a recorded version or knew it was a Tom Paxton song. It was in the repertoire of one of my late uncles; brings a lot of memories. Dylan in great voice.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 03:00:03 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

A video on the new Dylan box.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 02:13:47 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Carmen

Never recorded anything with Neil that hasn't been released.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 01:46:25 CEST 2013 from (76.98.218.136)

Posted by:

carmen

Location: pa

Subject: question for sebastain

hi sebastain I read that your dad recorded some music with neil young will this stuff ever see light?


Entered at Fri Aug 30 01:41:36 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Adam, I recall a story that Garth gave Neil some quality copies too.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 01:13:56 CEST 2013 from (99.141.92.17)

Posted by:

Adam

I think a Basement Tapes release may be coming.

Producer/engineer Elliot Mazer commented: "next year get ready for another amazing collaboration between Bob and The Band."

Neil Young has an excellent 1:1 15ips reel of 29 basement tape songs that Albert Grossman gave to Neil's collaborator Elliot Mazer. It is very possible he's involved in their restoration.


Entered at Fri Aug 30 00:00:17 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

That's three Kinks lists … I wish you guys would pop over to "Toppermost" and one of you volunteer to do the Kinks … then the others can add rival lists as comments. You need to ask first to see one's not in preparation though.

Today was Robert Johnson.


Entered at Thu Aug 29 23:53:48 CEST 2013 from (108.195.0.187)

Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: C-O-L-A

"I met her in a club down in old Soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like Coca-cola, C-O-L-A cola"

Popular drink eh?

This reminds me that (among other things), I never produced the Kinks Top 10 list that I was thinking about many weeks ago. But the recent "Coca-Cola" mention jogged my memory of the Kinks, and I figured that this is as good a time as any, to shoehorn my list into the middle of all the new old Bob Dylan recordings discussion.

I'm looking forward to getting Bootleg Vol. 10, but haven't yet been able to justify the price. I'm getting closer though, as I'd really like to hear The Band's IOW set in better sound quality.

So at the risk of derailing all of the great Bob and The Band talk, here is my personal Top 10 Kinks list in no particular order. The fascinating thing, given my reference above, is that I left 'Lola' off of the list. Fine song, but I could only choose 10.

Nothin' in the World Can Stop Me Worryin' 'Bout That Girl
Waterloo Sunset
Monica
Days
Mindless Child of Motherhood (Live version from Top of the Pops 1970)
Victoria
This Time Tomorrow
Picture Book
Stop Your Sobbing
You Really Got Me


Entered at Thu Aug 29 22:51:23 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks Sebastian. Makes sense … and a sign of Bob Dylan's trust, and also awareness when a line gets improved. It's interesting that the demo is "pulled into Brussels" (as is Rock of Ages) but the Band Cahoots version is 'landed in Brussels' … as the Band version was out first, 'pulled into …' would have sounded too strong a reference to The Weight. I assume that's another Robbie change. But listening again today, the Cahoots version is superb.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Before he pulled into Brussels, and possibly beofre Robbie pulled into Nazareth, Bob had pulled out for Albuquerque(sp?) (In "Lo And Behold".


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Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: My Masterpiece

Little known fact... Robbie wrote the "coca cola.." line in WIPMM.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Krosgaard was wrong on Visions of Johanna …


Entered at Thu Aug 29 19:51:40 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

PSB, I first became aware of Feiten with Butterfield but I really was struck by his playing on the two Rascals albums on Columbia. I liked Full Moon, but then he spent some time in Chicago backing a singer songwriter named Bill Quateman who was on Columbia (Caleb Quaye had also backed Quateman). I got to experience his particular genius a lot.

I'll trust Michael Krogsgaard on this although it does sound like Buzzy playing a one-off with his typical tone fairly muted. Bubbles get burst but that's the beauty of research. Buzzy is still active so perhaps he could clear it up himself.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Beatles

Yes I know. It is Another Self Portrait vernissage here but let me post a short note.

Exactly for fifty years ago The Beatles toured in Swedish provincial towns. It is still remembered and celebrated in many of these towns.


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Posted by:

David P

Howard "Buzz" Feiten was briefly a member of Paul Butterfield's band, taking over on guitar following the departure of Elvin Bishop in late 1968. He appeared on Butterfield's 1969 album "Keep On Moving" and was in the band when they played at the Woodstock Festival that year. It was this work with Butterfield that was my introduction to his guitar playing, at a time when horns & reeds (featuring David Sanborn) took over a leading role in the band


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Posted by:

PSB

Location: City of Brotherly Love

Subject: Buzzy Feiten and New Morning

Pat, I always thought it was Buzzy on New Morning, but according to the credits for the new box set, it's Ron Cornelius. This is backed by by the information by Michael Krogsgaard on Olof Bjorner's About Bob Dylan site.

I know that on prior Bootleg Series, they have used Olof's site, and while there are pics of session sheets in the booklet, unfortunately, they don't have the musicians, just the instruments. What say you? I don't know enough of Buzzy's stuff to be able to ID him.


Entered at Thu Aug 29 16:49:33 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: When I Paint My Masterpiece

Thanks, John. I just spent an enjoyable few minutes tracing that through the versions, a nice change from what I was working on! The demo (March 16th-19th 1971) is:

Sailing around the world in a dirty gondola

Sure wish I hadn't of (sic) sold my old Victrola.

Ain’t nothing like that good old rock and rolla

On “More Greatest Hits” where his version appeared after Cahoots had come out there are several different lyric bits.

When I ran on the hilltop following a pack of wild geese

becomes

As the daylight hours do increase

and he totally skips the “gondola” section, and the wonderful “On a plane ride so bumpy that I almost died” is replaced by the pretty weak:

“with a picture of a tall oak tree by my side.”

Then there’s The Rock of Ages bonus track (where he’s shouting too much) he uses the Band version (and less pretentious) ‘pretty little girl from Greece’ not his earlier ‘Botticelli’s niece’ AND he gets the same as the Band:

Sailin' 'round the world in a dirty gondola.

Oh, to be back in the land of Coca-Cola!

But then he has “I pulled into Brussels” rather than “I landed in Brussels” (thus lifting from The Weight) and ‘With a picture of a poet (?) priest by my side’ instead of ‘on a plane ride so bumpy that I almost died’.

The "land of Coca Cola" line is way better than the demo. OK, it's March 1971, and Dylan probably remembered the furore over "Lola" by The Kinks, where they realized they would be banned airplay in Britain because of "Coca Cola" on the LP version, and Ray Davies had to fly back from New York to London and cut in "cherry Cola" for the 45 single version. This was not because of problems with the Coca Cola company, but because of the BBC monopoly in the UK then, coupled with a total ban on advertising. Bob was probably trying to avoid it? Land of Coca Cola is so much better. Did The Band change it?


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Victrola

Yup, John. I noticed 'Victrola' line and my eyebrows went north. I hadn't ever heard that one before.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: Brian Wilson & Jeff Beck

Jeff A, I'm all over it! Can't wait for mid-October (their show at the Beacon Theater, NYC). Very excited.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: When I Paint My Masterpiece Lyric Change

It hasn't been mentioned here (I don't believe) but in the demo of WIPMM the original lyric is different from The Band's version. "There's a little lyric change on the bridge of this version. Instead of 'Sailing around the world in a dirty gondola/ Oh to be back in the world of Coca Cola" he sings, 'Sailing around the world in a dirty gondola/ Sure to love that old rock and rolla/ Sure wish I hadn't sold my old Victrola."


Entered at Thu Aug 29 15:26:27 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Carmen: That was the historian Douglas Brinkley on Imus. He also spoke about visiting with Dylan at the concert, who he became friends with after interviewing him for Rolling Stone a few years ago. According to him Dylan is a big Civil War buff. Mr. Brinkley is equally passionate about music as he is with history and currently lives in Austin, Texas.

A while back MIX magazine featured Rickie Lee Jones' "Chuck E.'s In Love" in their Classic Tracks column. Neil Larsen played a Fender Rhodes through a harmonizer on the song and Buzzy Feiten played the lead acoustic guitar. Willie Weeks was on bass and Steve Gadd on drums. Also featured were Victor Feldman on vibes, Ernie Watts & Tom Scott on saxes and Chuck Findley on trumpet.


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Posted by:

carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Garth with Wilco

Imus had a guest this am talking about Garth playing with Wilco. Also had a bunch of nice things to say about Levon.


Entered at Thu Aug 29 03:57:33 CEST 2013 from (67.84.79.254)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Apparently Brian Wilson & Jeff Beck are touring together with Al Jardine & David Marks


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Posted by:

Lars Pedersen

Location: The Woods

Subject: harvesting balloons

NORM!-

I guess it's alright to shoot balloons as long as you eat them. That must have been some sight, every round a tracer (YIKES!!)


Entered at Thu Aug 29 01:15:51 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: I Threw It All Away - Isle of Wight - video clip

I assume you guys saw the bootleg video that came out a few years back but, like me, haven't played it in a while. Here's a brief reminder:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y9pcyiU6p4


Entered at Wed Aug 28 23:43:01 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Disc 3

Looking through google about this performance and all the negative opinion on IOW,2 thoughts:First,when I listen I recall why I loved owning this on tape and how much I loved it despite the sound quality.Second,listening now,I hear a mellower sound,laid back,a bit tentative at times and a very soulful,powerful performance.Way less raucous then 74.The Band is on fire-they are confident,never tentative,driving the sound,giving Bob impetus to push on.He comments,I think,to them on stage,something like,"it sounds good"-encouraging self through others.Less sloppy than 66(Levon is there!)but contextually and appropriately more restrained than 74.I have no clue what's up with the critics on this.Eric Clapton said he loved the show,and said something along the lines of,only a musician would get it-Harrison loved it as well.They spoke wisely.This is a great great concert.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Disc 2

The thing I'm noticing is that,unlike the criticism of the original SP,with the NM,IOW cuts thrown in,disc 2 actually has an album like feel.It actually holds together-18 songs in their proper place creating a coherent whole--exactly the opposite of the critique of the original release of SP.Of course,the sound quality is special.Listen closely to Rick's masterful bass line on I'll Be Your Baby Tonight.Also(!)this album concept,playing old traditional songs,was(is) a precursor to the concept behind Dirtfarmer.These songs reside deep in Bob's soul-at the heart of his music.As Levon's songs did on DF.


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Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bill & David

I knew I could count on you guys for some good input. I know it was Jimmy Gilmer & The Fireballs. Listened to them a lot.

That particular song brings back a lot of memories of some guys I used to hang out with on our fish boats. Having too many wines always led to that song.

A friend named Snuffy, who was a trumpet player. Name of his boat was "Wild Thing". Well, Snuffy and I travelled together a lot. Snuffy was a biker, and avid gun man , (come to think of it, he grew up here in Powell River). Anyway Snuffy had an M16, and a Garan. With 30 round clips, and he got a hold of about 1000 of tracers some where.

We would get up into some bay in a remote inlet, miles from anyone so we wouldn't bother any body. We'd sit back drinking some wine and blow up piles of balloons. About dark, we'd throw the balloons all out in the water and let 'em drift away a little. Then we'd open up with the tracers and light up the world! Killing balloons, now that's the way to go!


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: I'll Be Your Baby Tonight

Is that Levon I hear singing background? Snuck outta work early to get back to the music!


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Posted by:

Pat B

Neil is playing a B3 with LC. He played a lot of Fender Rhodes on those Full Moon albums.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Pat, Leonard introduced Neil Larsen as "The master of the Hammond B3" and indeed he had the classic no one wanted to transport… with the thin legs. Spinet model? Whatever, he got the definitive Hammond sound out of it.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Larson

I believe he played on Gregg Allman's Playin Up a Storm album and on others as well.Unfortunately the production was a bit too slick,but Larson did nicely.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 21:29:38 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Peter, I'll see what I can do.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Apropos of something, I noticed that Neil Larson plays keys with Leonard Cohen. Larson played in an offshoot of Butterfield's band called Full Moon. The guitarist was Buzzy Feiten who played on two Rascals albums and happened to play to Dylan's New Morning album. He is prominently featured on the title song. Fantastic guitarist and a tone god.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 21:25:52 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Amost there

Pat, OK, I'll go with that IF we drop the piano. just guitar. I guess we'd have to allow harmonica, but I'd rather not.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 21:24:47 CEST 2013 from (63.88.115.195)

Posted by:

carmen

Location: PA

Subject: Shes Not Mine

Hey Bill M - I am a big fan of this song as well. Many differant meanings in just this one song- RR has a way of doing this.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 21:21:41 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

No, Dylan by himself, with a piano and guitar on stage, to do whatever he is moved to do. No set list. Four nights at the Auditorium.


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Posted by:

Peter V

OK, Dylan, Garnier & Kooper. I'd go one hell of a long way to see that.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Kooper

Peter-would you include Kooper? Some of those swirling piano parts are perfect on the album.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 21:05:11 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Dylan, Bromberg & Garnier has a ring to it. Whatever he should employ Leonard Cohen's sound team. The guitar band aspect has been one of his problems. Two guitars and bass or guitar, piano and bass. A drummer is irrelevant and immediately ups the levels.


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Posted by:

Daivd P

Subject: Bottle of Wine

"Bottle of Wine", written & first recorded by Tom Paxton in 1965, was also covered by Danko/Fjeld/Andersen on "Ridin' on the Blinds."


Entered at Wed Aug 28 20:03:35 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Rockin' Chair: You asked how you make "it" go away. Do you mean the wine, the chowder or the earworm? That particular earworm came courtesy of (Jimmy Gilmer and) the Fireballs, featuring a very distinctive guitarist, George Tomsco. I heard last week that Wes Dakus just passed away he and his groups, and then his musicians' groups, beat a path from Edmonton and Calgary down to Clovis, New Mexico to work with Norman Petty and his houseband, the Fireballs all through the '60s. (Tomsco can be heard on many Dakus and Barry Allen records, including the big hit, "Lovedrops", linked.) I believe that Dakus's drummer, Stu Mitchell, replaced Doug Roberts in the Fireballs at one point; certainly one of his songs is on the "Bottle of Wine" LP (or maybe the one after - before heading back north and winding up part of the Edmonton-based crowd (David Foster, BJ Cook, Dwayne Ford, Hugh Brockie) that Ronnie Hawkins drafted to be his new Hawks in the early '70s, and that subsequently splintered (without Mitchell) into the successful Atkinson Danko and Ford (aka Bearfoot) and the very successful Skylark.


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Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: House Carpenter (cont.)

It's been well documented that Dylan was influenced by Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music. Included in this compilation was Clarence Ashley's version of "House Carpenter." The traditional song derived from one of the English and Scottish folk ballads known as James Harris (a/k/a The Daemon Lover). Doc Watson, who began his recording career with Mr. Ashley (his father in law), also recorded a fine version of the song.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: The Bob Dylan Trio

Jed and John: Absolutely! We could dream crazy and consider mathematical acoustic guitar by RR but I'll take Bromberg of course. Acoustics by RR: that would be something!


Entered at Wed Aug 28 19:06:01 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: JT

Ahhhhhhhh Jerry. Priceless!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: David P

David I just read your post. I thought this was a "new" appearance at the White House; but I guess it was a repeat of the 2010 appearance.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Massey Hall Front Row centre

Yes John. Massey Hall. Like in '65. We'll have to contain ourselves for the joy of it all.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jed

Jed!!! Great idea!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V / Dylan Video

Yes Peter that's the video from last night. I think the fact that he doesn't have to shout over P.A's in a large auditorium really helps. As JT said....seeing him in a small room, solo, would would be just wonderful. If I may, I'd just like to say he looks good holding that guitar again. It really felt good. BTW I believe that Bob could have one of his biggest tours performing like he did last night and yes.....probably charge more. How about Massey Hall or the old Imperial Room JT?


Entered at Wed Aug 28 18:53:32 CEST 2013 from (129.98.207.164)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Dylan Alone

I'd love to hear Bromberg and Kooper on this "solo" acoustic tour.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Dylan solo

If Dylan does a solo show (I suggested this some months ago on the GB) and it is only in Chicago, I will attend that concert if I am able. Hopefully, though, it would be part of a tour. It would take some personal reflection to decide to do that, but then I believe Dylan has the character to ask himself if he'd like to go it alone. He's done it before and clearly he knows how its done. A lot of considerations would have to go into make such a decision. As a dream, I'm with you on this one! I'd go a long way to hear that!


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Posted by:

David P

Subject: Tony Garnier

That's Tony Garnier on bass, who has played with Dylan since 1989. That distinction, as the musician who has performed the most with Dylan, enables him to anticipate every nuance and twist that Dylan might throw at him.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 17:59:59 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I think Bob should bring the acoustic bass, Pat, based on "The Times." But absolutely. It's a lesson from Leonard. Don't have volume around you that stops you hearing yourself or that makes you shout.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Minstrel Boy

That sure is Levon on there.Powerful.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 17:56:04 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

I have a fantasy that either Paul McCartney or Bob Dylan does a solo tour with just a guitar and piano onstage, preferably at the Auditorium Theater here in Chicago.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 17:46:55 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Times They Are A-Changing

Do you mean this one, John? I can't believe how good his voice is. Fabulous version.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 17:44:06 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Eyes on the Prize

John D: I also watched that 2010 performance at the White House again last light. Dylan's performance was riveting. I wonder if that night he was remembering the 1963 Civil Rights March on Washington. It was on this day 50 years ago that Martin Luther King, Jr. delivered his famous I Have A Dream speech from in front of the Lincoln Memorial before several hundred thousand people. Among those performing that day was a so much younger then Bob Dylan, along with others including Joan Baez, Peter Paul & Mary and Len Chandler.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 17:33:34 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bob Dylan PBS last night

Watching Dylan singing The Times.........again a different voice; from his touring sound. He sounds just great. This ran on PBS last night. This is the 2nd time I've seen him sing for the President and each time a mellower voice. Beautiful. This was a White House performance celebrating Martin Luther King.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 17:01:40 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: The Weight vs. You Shook Me

Bill M and all: You are commenting on the review of Mumford and Sons in Toronto (Molson Amphitheatre) on Monday night with the encore the "You Shook Me..."encore. "The Weight" was played in Simcoe. I checked in The Star and The Globe and Mail.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 16:56:24 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

House Carpenter is really first-rate. On Minstrel Boy, I'm sure Levon can be heard on there too, and so it would have to come right at the tail end of the writing part. I'd still guess that the "circa 67" is wrong … as the list of players manifestly is. Just listen and ask what keyboards? What drums? How many guitars? Just having prominent bass and acoustic guitar sounds basement, but i'd guess it's a vocals rehearsal, not a writing session.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 16:48:33 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Grabbed this from Rolling Stone. Interesting to see what's on the horizon

Since launching the Bootleg Series in 1991, Dylan has released eight sets, but has withheld much of the material that fans are most eager to hear. "We're trying to put this stuff out in an intelligent way," says the source. "Sets for Blood on the Tracks and Blonde on Blonde will eventually come out. When fans hear the Blonde on Blonde set, they'll realize that the real hero of the sessions was pianist Paul Griffin. . . There will also be a Basement Tapes box one day. We're trying to get the best sources on all the Basement Tapes. That'll happen one day, absolutely."

Speaking of the Basement Tapes, the new box reveals that "Minstrel Boy," a Self Portrait original, was actually written during those famed 1967 sessions. "This was never even rumored," says Marcus. "That's a tantalizing thing. We have no idea what's out there. If we all live long enough, maybe we'll find out."


Entered at Wed Aug 28 16:45:49 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Bottle of Wine

Ramblin around this dirty old town, singin for nickels and dimes

Out in the street I tell the people I meet, Hey buy me a bottle of wine.

While I was opening a bottle of white wine to have with some great fish chouder I just made, it got stuck there.

Now how do I make it go away???


Entered at Wed Aug 28 16:33:45 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: She's Not Mine

Bill M: agree there's a parallel with "Cripple Creek," rooted in the phrase-in-common "off the road."

I find the line "maybe she thinks I'm the fugitive kind" a model of expressive economy - and it evokes the late Mr. Cale's song - given sensitive assistance from Leon Russell in the version at [My link] . . . .


Entered at Wed Aug 28 16:33:19 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Thanks David P

Bob's singing and tone on that song are truly from another dimension.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 16:27:22 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Jed: Dylan had previously recorded "House Carpenter" in Nov. 1961 during sessions for his debut self-titled album. That outtake version was later included on Bootleg Series Vol. 1-3 thirty years later.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 16:07:30 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Disc 2

Amazing.Grabbing a few moments to listen to disc 2.Already the album advances from a spectacular disc 1 to a spiritual experience that immediately hits you with the first notes of disc 2. BTW,any more background on House Carpenter-Bob's delivery on that song was otherworldly.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 15:43:39 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: ASP

On the iTunes release of ASP, the 3 disk version, they have two versions of Highway 61, One is 3:39 and the other 3:47. When I went to another track listing off the iTunes site there is only one version. Was it done twice? They both sound exactly the same; with the exception of the lengths being different.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 15:40:24 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Another Self Portrait

Listened last night to most of disc 1.Gonna need to really spend time,sit & listen a few times to all of this.What I've heard so far is spectacular.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 15:38:16 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: John D-Skydog

There are a variety of stories surrounding the Skydog boxset.Initially there were 10,000 "limited editions" of the boxset and HTN(Hittin the note-the Allmans fan magazine/merchandising outfit) was selling this notion of a limited edition & as a result,copies were bought & then offered for resale on ebay for some real crazy prices.According to the prevailing point of view,the company made an error by underestimating the sales & as a result are selling more.Another point of view expressed suggested they are selling what was held back from the original 10,000.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 14:50:36 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Bessie, the sequel

I listened to Robbie's Clairvoyant album last night for the first time in a long time. I've always loved the spectacular sound of "She's Not Mine", thanks in particular to Steve Winwood's contributions. This time, I was struck by the lyrics, especially the early going. I realise that they're rooted in the biographical, but still they sound like Robbie rolling into Lake Charles 40 years later, hoping to recreate the good old days but finding that Bessie's changed:

I come to town, my work is done
Well, I just got off the road
It's a long time since I been with someone

I called this lady, so divine
I asked her and I asked her
If she'd like to come out sometime

We talked about some movie
And we laughed at ourselves
She had a way about her like no one else

But I could see clouds
When I looked in her eyes
Boy, if she's somebody else's
She's not mine


Entered at Wed Aug 28 14:35:52 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Skydog

Well....while surfing, I just noticed this Retrospective for sale on ebay. That tweaked my curiosity. And yes it was out in March of 2013 and is being sold on ebay. Any thoughts on why it was pulled and now being re-released 7 months later?


Entered at Wed Aug 28 14:23:40 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Duane Allman

I see in October that Skydog: The Duane Allman Retrospective, is going to be released. Is this the same one that came out a few months ago and then become instantly unavailable?


Entered at Wed Aug 28 14:11:50 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

Judging from the review in today's paper, Mumford and Sons did not play "The Weight" in their show here last night, they played "You Shook Me All Night Long" - a group's very best song to be sure, but the wrong group.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 14:08:56 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Box sets

Latest Uncut (Clash cover) p 82 and 83. That great reviewer, Richard Williams, is back to cover The Beach Boys "Made in California" box set:

" … a group whose voices (like those of The Band) came together as individual sounds, each with its own grain, rubbing against each other to create little abrasions that mirrored the internal tensions of an institution frequently riven by disputes but held together by the bonds of blood and commerce."

Circa 1971, I bought anything Richard Williams recommended … Link Wray, J.J. Cale … being examples.

Then "Live At The academy of Music 1971" gets a short, but 10/10 review, "documenting one of the greatest groups ever to take the stage at its absolute peak" (Bud Scoppa).

Oh, dear. September is going to be a very expensive month.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: JT Mumford post

JT your post gave me goosebumps; when you talked about Mumford & Sons launching into The Weight; in Simcoe ON.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 13:33:20 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: New Morning, Sign In The Window.

Didn't realiz get so much reaction; from my comments on those two tracks. I'll probably buy the Deluxe version today and with the advantage of hearing whole tracks could change my mind. I've already changed my feelings to Sign In The Window. The advantage that Peter, Pat and JT have (if I'm correct) is that you have heard those tracks a number of times now. My previous post was based on one or two snippets from iTunes. I'll report back when my copy arrives. Thanks for the input guys.

Wait a minute. Peter, Pat & JT. Reminds me of PP&M days :-)


Entered at Wed Aug 28 08:15:34 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Watch those digits when you type

That's 35,000!


Entered at Wed Aug 28 08:14:12 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Simcoe Ont

Mike Nomad: Even Toronto misses stuff. You're right. I'm on the west coast right now. Had I been in Ontario, Simcoe is of course not too far from Toronto. Anyway.... I35 000 at Simcoe for the finale - Mumford and Sons - 2 hours "For the encore, the quartet huddled around one microphone center stage for a sublime cover of Bruce Springsteen's "I'm On Fire," followed by an a cappella version of "Sister." The night ended with them inviting all of the other bands that played over the weekend onstage for one final super jam. "In a way, rock and roll was born in Canada, and I am going to prove it," said Marcus Mumford before they launched into the Band's classic "The Weight." The original, of course, featured local boy Rick Danko on bass and vocals, so covering it made the perfect ending to their set. "


Entered at Wed Aug 28 06:31:23 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

I think the horns on New Morning are exhilarating. The strings version of Sign In The Window have circulated for years but it's nice to hear them so clearly. IoW is simply brilliant. Hearing the entire concert so cleanly is really something.

Btw, the June 15 LARS session went through a number of full band takes, but the band was quite different from the June 16 session. On the 16th, it is the 4th take that we've come to regard, but they took nine more shots at it before realizing they had it already.


Entered at Wed Aug 28 03:09:37 CEST 2013 from (184.145.74.174)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Web: My link

Surprisingly, no one from that great font of wisdom that resides in Toronto appears to have mentioned that Mumford and Sons held one of their stopover concerts this past weekend in Simcoe, Ontario, and — according to the Hamilton (Ont.) Spectator last week — the reason the Brit group chose Simcoe (or one of the reasons) was that one of the Band members grew up in the neighborhood. [see link]

According to the Spec, "What sealed the deal, however, was Simcoe's musical past, specifically the music of native son Rick Danko, the bassist and singer for The Band."

It said the search for a Canadian stopover for the tour "began in the fall with promoter Live Nation looking at several small towns in Ontario and the Maritimes. Early in the new year, [band members] began paying unannounced visits to the final contenders. Ben Lovett and Winston Marshall hit Simcoe in January.

"Lovett and Marshall also checked out the fairgrounds and drove down the road to the Burning Kiln winery in [nearby]Turkey Point. What started out as a brief wine tasting turned into a three-hour gabfest about tobacco (Burning Kiln's vineyards are located on an old tobacco farm), wine and Rick Danko.

"We started talking and I asked Winston what Mumford & Sons' musical influences were," said Burning Kiln co-owner Mike McArthur, whose father worked in a local butcher shop with Danko for a brief period in the '50s.

"He had one answer, 'The Band.'"


Entered at Wed Aug 28 03:08:20 CEST 2013 from (99.141.92.17)

Posted by:

Adam

"Isle Of Wight 1969" is a truly amazing recording. I've always loved the performance. It's a true essential addition to the Dylan/Band legacy.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 23:43:49 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Self Portrait

I was doing a masters, so 4th year in Britain. I loved it. I looked at the list of musicians and assumed The Band were on more tracks than the Isle of Wight, wrongly as it turned out. I thought All The Tired Horses hilarious. I could imagine dedicated Dylan fans dropping the stylus and wondering what was going on.

But New Morning was a real favourite, one I couldn't stop playing. I would argue that it's a better album than Planet Waves too.

Give New Morning (Alt) and Sign On The window (Alt) a few plays as I've been doing tonight. They're growers.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 23:25:04 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: For the record...

For the record, I did not have a problem with 'Self Portrait' when it came out. I was 21 and in 2nd or 3rd year university and we were 'concerned' and so it would have been natural to worry that our spokesperson had abandoned 'the cause'. But I recall that I felt the songs were often good and that there was much on the album to laud. It was not 'Blonde on Blonde' or even 'John Wesley Harding' but it stood on its own two feet well. It was NOT as Greil Marcus maligned it even then. It did not get the play it deserved perhaps, because when I went to Dylan I went to the earlier albums. It will certainly gets its due now in the light of the newer released material as the iTunes libary puts out song after song in its automaton-like fashion.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 22:25:40 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Alternate versions

I know the problem, and I found Lonesome Suzie a curiosity rather than a viable alternative, but you wonder if David Clayton-Thomas had heard it before doing it with BST.

I went through Another Self Portrait to assuage my curiosity first, then I have concentrated on letting CD1 soak in thoroughly. Fabulous stuff. New Morning is on CD2. It contrasts with the well-loved and familiar, but it's a pretty damn good horn part. The elaborated I Went to See The Gypsy is harder for me to take on board in the alternative version on CD2 (May 1970), but the stripped down one on CD1 (March 1970) is great. I think the orchestral bit in Sign On The Window is a marvellous arrangement, but I think it too elaborate for Dylan's voice which is straining, The two bits … voice / piano, and then orchestral score work very well apart. I'm not sure they do together. Which was the decision they made in 1970.

But I haven't started the "soaking in" exercise on CD2 yet.I am enjoying the whole immensely. It confirms my belief that both Self Portrait and New Morning are excellent albums.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 19:57:37 CEST 2013 from (92.18.167.168)

Posted by:

Solomon

Location: UK
Web: My link

Subject: Ain't In It For My Health: A Film About Levon Helm

Anyone interested can watch Ain't In It For My Health: A Film About Levon Helm at Amazon Instant Video. It's $3.99 for three days rental.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 19:56:03 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: He was never known to make a foolish move...

With the album "John Wesley Harding" Dylan thought about having Robbie & Garth overdub parts on the tracks recorded in Nashville. Robbie reportedly thought the tracks sounded fine the way they were.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 19:13:17 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: 'Washed out horns'

'The cracked bells and washed-out horns. Blow into my face with scorn'

I agree with the comments regarding the horns in both the Dylan song and the Band song (see recent entries). The horns are a distraction and detract from the impact of both songs. However, I still enjoy hearing the attempts as the creative process by producer and artist evolves. I'm glad we have all the versions.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 18:50:06 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Some may recall the bootleg of a dozen or so takes of "We Can Talk" from the MFBP sessions.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 18:11:21 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

John D, I had much the same reaction to the alternate Lonesome Suzie with horns (bonus track on the remastered Big Pink from 2000). The alternate take is an interesting curiosity, but to my ears it mutes the emotion of the song, and I doubt I've listened to it more than once or twice since then.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 17:33:06 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bob Dylan ASP

OK, so I don't own the deluxe version as yet. I don't own any version of it as of yet. I have read almost everything; on this site; about the package. The following is just Personal Taste; from listening to each track on iTunes.

I can see why a couple of tracks never saw the light of day; at the time. New Morning (with horns), Please! Sign On The Window with Strings. Sorry. These are two tracks that do nothing for me and that's perhaps; because I have had 40 years of loving the original versions. Don't get me wrong. I like pretty much everything else. But these two track arrangements were definitely an experiment at the time. Again. Personal Taste.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 16:27:13 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Furnish me with tape...

In November of 1973, as Dylan was jumping ship to record for David Geffen's Asylum label, Columbia Records released "Dylan", a compilation of outtakes from the "Self Portrait" and "New Morninig" sessions. Without Bob Dylan's direct input, it was seen as an opportunistic bit of revenge on Columbia's part. In the intervening years after Dylan's return to Columbia/Sony with artist control over his back catalog, the "Dylan" album has never been reissued. Now, with the release of "Another Self Portrait," could it be that this time round Dylan gets his revenge for that 1973 release?


Entered at Tue Aug 27 15:25:42 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: cruel joke or misbegotten masterpiece?

. . . another opinion about _Self Portrait_ . . . .


Entered at Tue Aug 27 06:57:51 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Rotary Connection

Bill M: I bought those first 2 albums after hearing RC on CHUM FM. I think I saw them at Varsity Stadium at one of the multi act shows in the summertime. I'll have to go and look for them in storage where I have so many old albums in bins that I bought in the 60s and 70s.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 01:50:26 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Leonard Cohen

Leonard Cohen review up for Monday night's Bournemouth show. It is a draft one … I usually amend it after I've slept on it an re-read it.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 00:15:04 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: And

Just got an email that Another Self Portrait is to be expected in tomorrow's mail.All 4 delicious cd's.And,the chance to hear IOW,finally,with a high quality recording is tremendous.Most eager to listen to this masterpiece.


Entered at Tue Aug 27 00:01:29 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: GB

Fascinating.Thats why I like this place.An awful lot of smart and knowledgeable characters frequent this guest book.Fascinating.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 23:08:38 CEST 2013 from (72.224.51.211)

Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Albany, NY

Subject: SACD

Mobile Fidelity is now shipping. The Band - The Band Numbered, Limited Edition Hybrid SACD $29.99


Entered at Mon Aug 26 22:51:13 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

This vinyl boot has a pre-mastered version of LARS that goes on for about 15 more seconds. The whole boot sounds fantastic.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 22:30:25 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Pat B: Thanks so much for posting that link to the Rotary Connection's version of LARS (and here it is again). It still sends shivers, especially what Minnie Ripperton's doing throughout the final chorus - not just the unearthly high notes but also the downward glide on "fee-ee-ee-ee-eel" in that one chorus. (For those unfamiliar with this version, they group sings only the choruses, with the verses being instrumental only.)

Whenever it was played on CHUM-FM here back in the day, they always also played the RC's "Lady Jane" first - as if the two songs were a medley. When I got the album I was surprised that the two songs were totally separate tracks. "Soul Man" on that same first album is also stellar.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 21:53:36 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Check out Lady Jane and I am the Black Gold of the Sun too.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 21:43:58 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

I guess no one has thought to add visuals to it. Onstage it was a big guitar freakout. Minnie does her thing at the end which is insane.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 21:37:01 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

The first version of "Like A Rolling Stone" that many of us heard was the original 45 mono single. It has more punch in its sound than the mono & stereo album versions released two months later. Because of the 6:00 length, the EQ had to be adjusted by rolling off the bottom end in order to fit the grooves on one side of the 7" record. This added a bite to the vocal and instruments that is really noticeable when you do a back-to-back comparison with the both the mono & stere album versions. Back in the day of its release, when most of us first heard it on a car radio, it really jumped out and grabbed you from that first opening snare shot.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 21:08:10 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

John D: Thanks. You were right and I was wrong. Garry Ferrier was the artist and Allan Farrell, another CHUM DJ, was the writer (of the 45). Funny you should mention Keith Hampshire; he mentioned you in speaking to Eugene Smith at a backyard barbecue 10 days ago. Something about he and you seeing him with Hawkins at the Le Coq D'Or or someplace.

Pat B: Why is there so little Rotary Connection material on YouTube? I've been wanting to link to their magnificent version of LARS for years.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 20:05:47 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Bill M, Paul Griffin started the June 16 session on organ and switched to piano after a number of takes. I believe Dylan played piano on the 15th for at least one take, which was him performing the song solo as a waltz.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 19:55:36 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Bill M

Bill, I wouldn't be surprised if Gary himself wasn't the artist. Keith Hampshire and I went to the Hart & Lorne acting classes at the old CBC studio on Parliament Street. Jayne Eastwood was a regular as well.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 19:40:46 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Frank Owens is also credited on piano for the Highway 61 Revisted sessions.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 19:19:48 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Scratched or pressed mother and stamper numbers are beloved of Beatles obsessives, because there is a feeling that earlier stampers will have been nearer the first one in some arcane way. I'm convinced it's bullshit, but it's bullshit that can turn a £10 Beatles LP into a £2000 Beatles LP. But it would be a way of telling if a record was pressed in a particular year … though often bits of tiny sleve detail do the same. London-American EPs were the best they just printed 10.59 (Oct 1959) on the rear sleeve in tiny letters.

That's me for now … Leonard Cohen starts in 65 minutes and I have to park the car.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 19:09:13 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: what a difference a day makes

Ian W and Pat B: Thanks for your input on LARS. If Griffin switched from organ to piano for the "remake" sessions on the 16th, who, if anyone, was on piano on the 15th? Would the addition of a piano (and a new organist) normally be enough to warrant the sessions on the 16th being designated as a "remake"? If not, was there any other significant difference between the two days?


Entered at Mon Aug 26 18:53:08 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Highway 61 Revisited

All the tracks on the album were recorded live in the studio, all the musicians recording together, with no overdubs. This would help explain why Dylan experimented with so many takes on each song. When there was a flub, such as loosing his voice during one take of "Like A Rolling Stone", they would just start over with another take. That many of Dylan's songs had so many verses, running far beyond the standard 2:30-3:00 length was certainly a factor leading to so many takes for each song. The album's final song, "Desolation Row", clocking in at just under 11 1/2 minutes, was a composite of two takes edited together.As producer Bob Johnston, who took over from Tom Wilson, has noted, the placement of vocal mics for Dylan presented a challenge, as he tended to move around while singing.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 18:19:51 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

On the first set of takes for LARS, Paul Griffin is playing the organ. As a music vet, he knew how to turn the B3 on--which, if you haven't done it before, is very tricky--and he knew how to use the drawbars to get a suitable tone (you have nine harmonics that you can mix together to your heart's content). Kooper couldn't even turn one on much less get a good tone out of it, so when he snuck out of the control room and onto the organ, the organ sound had already been set up by Paul Griffin, who had moved to piano.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 18:12:24 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Bits and pieces re: 1965

"Remake" wasn't always used consistently but it was a completely fresh attempt at a song recorded at an earlier session. In this instance, LARS was attempted several times on 15 June 1965, so all the attempts on the following day, 16 June 1965, were noted as "Remake" versions.

I know some recording studios used "remake" to describe the later overdubbing of a recording made earlier but this was not the case at Columbia. I should add that Columbia staff were not always 100% consistent in their use of such terms but, in this case, they were.

I'm not personally into "scratched" matrix numbers but I do have a mono UK "BLONDE ON BLONDE" and mine are DDP 66012 A1, B1, C1 and D1 respectively. These must be the earliest UK matrix numbers and the ones to look out for.

I did not buy my copy of the album until late December 1967 or early January 1968. I know this because I got my first ever record player (an old Dansette portable) for Christams 1967 and "BLONDE ON BLONDE" was one of the first half-dozen or so LPs I bought.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 18:08:37 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Capitol Contract

Ian: The Capitol Records contract, dated Feb. 1, 1968, was between Capitol and Groscourt Productions, Inc. Groscourt was to provide "the exclusive personal endeavors of Levon Helm, Robbie Robertson, Richard Manuel, Rick Danko and Garth Hudson, performing as 'The Crackers'...in connection with the production of records."

Paragraph 6 of the agreement contains the following exclusion allowing work with Dylan:

"Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained herein Artists shall have the right to perform and record as sidemen and/or as joint artists with Bob Dylan for any recording company, television program, motion picture or legitimate stage production for which Bob Dylan is then rendering services. Such activities shall be deemed excluded from this agreement and particularly Paragraph 6. With respect to such activities Artists may receive credit and participate in the normal advertising incidental thereto."

The language "shall have the right to perform and record as sidemen and/or as joint artists with Bob Dylan" seems to indicate they could be identified individually, as well as jointly under a collective group name. The back cover of "Planet Waves" (see link) does indeed list them as "The Band" and individually. Also, an ad for the 1969 Isle of Wight Festival (included in the pictures section of the GB) does list "Bob Dylan & The Band."


Entered at Mon Aug 26 17:42:14 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

John D: For some reason another Toronto DJ record came to mind over the weekend. I've seen lots of copies over the years of a 45 titled "The President's Canada Conference", a cut-in record from the Kennedy years. Garry Ferrier was involved (as writer, I believe), but I'm not sure who was listed as the artist. Do you remember? It was on the tiny Astral label, who even released a related LP. The list of writers was the most interesting thing: Ferrier, Larry Solway, Larry Green (all CHUM DJs), brothers Hart and Earl Pomerantz and little Lorne Michaels - who went on to much bigger things. Of course I, and I suspect other Canuckistani GBers of my age group, think of him most fondly as the straight man on "The Hart and Lorne Terrific Hour" of the very early '70s.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 17:10:59 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Like A Rolling Stone

Roy Halee would be an excellent source for the details regarding the recording of "Like A Rolling Stone." It was his first session as an engineer, having previously worked in Columbia's classical division editing tapes. He would later become best known for his work with Simon & Garfunkel and Paul Simon's solo recordings. I would guess that the organ would have been on the same track as the piano.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 17:03:47 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I was examining the Blonde on Blonde notes in detail too. Quite a few of the Canadian mixes then are on the first British pressing, which I don't have. It came out as I was about to go to university (without a record player initially) and money was tight and all my friends had it anyway. My vinyl copy dates from about four years later and is stereo … one of the first records I bought when I could afford to start buying stuff I'd missed. So you're into the codes scratched or pressed on the vinyl near the play out groove to indicate which pressing it was and when. That's very well documented for EMI and Decca pressings. I have no idea for CBS, but no doubt it's listed somewhere. I was in a record store last week and someone came in with a tatty Blonde on Blonde and they declined to buy it as they already had "half a dozen out the back." I'll go and look.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 16:54:07 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: iTunes Canada / Dylan

I notice for $29.99 Canadian they are selling Another Self Portrait sans the re-mixed Self Portrait. 53 tracks in all including all of IOW. Not a bad price; but no packaging of course.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 16:46:57 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Thanks Ian

I like the way it's broken down on this page. Most Likely...reveals what I've always known that the snare and ORGAN are dominate. Interesting the note on Absolutely Sweet Marie has indicated quieter organ part. Being in radio all of my career, I once asked at Sony Canada if the original MONO mix was in their archives. Like a lot of places, whether film; or music much had been discarded; over the years. Remember the story in L.A.; when many of the original Bugs Bunny Looney Tunes original drawings were found in the garbage; after a purge. I know I'm beating a dead horse here; but I find it interesting that this lost sheep I have been looking for is so hard to find; however I should drop a note to "Expecting Rain" sometime and see what happens.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 16:42:48 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Al Cooper

Bill M....and ALL OF YUZ! On the DVD of Dylan "No Direction Home", Al Cooper explains how he came to play organ on the parts you are discussing.

He had come to play guitar, but when Mike Bloomfield picked up his guitar and cut loose, Cooper says, "There is no way I was gonna pick up my guitar after watching Mike."

He says the song was in the key of C, any one can play an organ in C. He asked Tom if he could do it. Tom says 'aw man you're a guitar player. Just then some one called to Tom and he turned to answer some question.

So Cooper says, "He didn't say no. So I just got on the organ, and started playing that simple riff". Dylan was doing the take, and he then said, "Turn up that organ." Whether that's true or not I don't know, but that is the story he tells on the DVD.

Randy Backman has his CBC radio show, which I some times listen to on my tug. Just a few nights back, Backman was telling this story. I don't know where he got his story from, but in his story Al Cooper was there to do maintenance cleanup in the place, which sounds really stupid, and was asked to play organ. I don't know where Backman gathers his material from, but many times I hear him peddling a lot of stuff on that show, that I KNOW is bullshit.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 16:39:40 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Ian W: I share your assessement of Al Kooper's leanings (to storytelling). As for Wilson, as an old hand, he would have made many magical records with two or three tracks - so the fourth, while a nice-to-have, might have been seen as a useful parking lot in that instance. Also, were/are producers in the habit of calling a second try of the same song a "remake", or would the term suggest a totally new approach - perhaps new lyrics or a new arrangement or new instrumentation?


Entered at Mon Aug 26 16:31:31 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: Canadian mono "BLONDE ON BLONDE"

Did you get round to this page, John D? http://www.rdf.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/BobAppend/AppendixC.htm


Entered at Mon Aug 26 15:57:06 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ian's Link

Thanks for the link Ian to Roger's site. Item from 2005. "Canadian mono LP contains earliest known mix of the album and reveals edits made in later versions."


Entered at Mon Aug 26 15:41:01 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Al Kooper (and Dylan's 1965 sessions)

You may well be right, Bill M, though Tom Wilson only had four tracks to play with.

Al Kooper, fine musician and producer as he may be, is not always the most accurate of reporters. I once sent him a photo from the H61R sessions, asking if that was him playing guitar. He replied that it was. I was more interested in dating the photo (if Al was on guitar, it was probably from 15 June whereas, had he been on organ, it was more likely from 16 June). When I got back to him with one or two other comments, he resiled from his confirmation, saying it was Kenny Rankin and that the two of them were always getting mixed up by people. Rankin never played on that session.

I wasn't there and Al was but I suspect he started telling his stories about working with Dylan, changed them a little, got a laugh, so changed them a little bit more and so on. In the end, the funny story had precedence over his actual memory. We all do it and Al is a performer, so likes a good audience reaction.

Dylan's camp has played the "factually inaccurate but a good story" card, too. At Newport in 1965, after the electric set, Dylan played two songs solo. Chronologically, they were "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" and "Mr Tambourine Man" but, in the offical Newport DVD, they are reversed because "It's All Over, Baby Blue" is a better closer in the circumstances of the audience reaction to the elctric set.

Someone once said, "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story". Mark Twain, was it? In contrast (and as A.E.Housman said) : "Accuracy is a duty, not a virtue".


Entered at Mon Aug 26 14:57:14 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Re the LARS sessions, is organ, and Kooper, on all of those takes? If it's true that Kooper hadn't played organ before, and that his involvement in that capacity at that session was a last-minute thing, then it would make sense that the organ would have been turned very low for at least the early takes as he got the hang of it. It would also make sense for him to suggest later on, whether seriously or jokingly, that the organ be turned up. While Ian's point that the organ would have shared a track with another instrument makes sense, it also makes some sense that Tom Wilson, unconvinced of Kooper's abilities - and perhaps of the need for an organ at all - would have preferred the engineer to isolate the organ so that whatever calamity emerged could easily be discarded.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 14:53:39 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan sessions 1965 - 1966

I had read about Canadian mono BLONDE ON BLONDE. I am familiar with Alan Fraser's "Searching For A Gem" website in general (have contact with him from time to time and occasionally contribute) but it is a huge website and I can't say I've read every page.

The most detailed website on this period in Dylan's recording career is Roger Ford's:

http://www.rdf.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

I have known Roger for many years and, indeed, he was the co-author of (now) two articles on Dylan's 1962 recording sessions. His work on the 1965 and 1966 recording sessions and the releases that emanated from them is without parallel. I haven't had contact with Rob Bowman for years. We last met briefly in October 1992 outside the venue for a Dylan show in Rochester, NY but, through unfortunate circumstance, I had not slept the night before, having driven through the night from a show in Lock Haven, PA. I don't think I was very communicative.

My previous comments were based largely on the session documentation whereas Roger's are based on the discs and his excellent "ears".


Entered at Mon Aug 26 14:32:18 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Turning up the Organ Ian

Ian. I'm not sure if you were reading the site; when I I have asked people if they had have ever come in contact; with a Canadian MONO pressing of Blonde On Blonde. For all you others. This is my last time bringing it up; but Ian on the original Canadian MONO pressing of Blonde On Blonde the organ is ( to put it in your words) turned UP. I love it. Even Rob Bowman didn't know about this; but he would have been quite young at the time. The American pressing of the same record has the same number on the spine; but is a different mix.

I believe it was was David P that has pointed out a few times that Blonde On Blonde is one of the most Re-Mixed rock albums of all time. When it was originally released, Canada, The U.S., England, Italy etc all had their own mix of it. The Canadian MONO mix seems to be the rarest to find. Even JT who has one of the largest collections of Dylan material that I know does not have a copy. My old friend Russ has one; but it's extremely scratchy and it skips. My love for it; however is all about the Organ being turned UP; more than any other mix I have ever heard.

I have included a link to the Blonde On Blonde Rarities page.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 14:20:26 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone" sessions

I have seen the session sheets for this session. They are actually called "Tape Identification Data" sheets, as you may see from some of the illustrations to Michael Krogsgaard's articles in THE TELEGRAPH, though I have seen them called Tape Logs, which may be a more accurate description. Whatever, I can report as follows

There were 16 attempts at "Like A Rolling Stone" on 16 June 1965. The first attempt was not slated (but was noted as Take 1) and the second attempt was slated but also noted as Take 1. Therefore, there were two Take Ones plus 14 other attempts, making 16 in all.

The attempt listed as Take 13 (actually the 14th attempt at the song that day) was also not slated but the subsequent takes just followed on with the numbering, without any duplication.

In all, there were 6 complete takes of the song that day, namely the first Take 1, the second Take 1, Take 4, Take 8, Take 10 and Take 15 (#s 1, 2, 5, 9, 11 and 16 chronologically). Most of the rest were "Short False Starts" but Take 13 (the 14th attempt that was not slated) was a "Long False Start". I've assumed that Take 12 (the 13th attempt that day) was a "Short False Start" but, though it isn't signified as such in the standard way, it has a couple of dashes like quotation marks in the "False Start" box. Normally, this box is empty on the sheet when the take is complete.

It is Take 4 (the fifth attempt at the song that day, not the 4th) that is circled, indicating that it is the take selected.

If you go to the "Like A Rolling Stone" section of the NO DIRECTION HOME video, you can hear Tom Wilson saying, "Like A Rolling Stone - Remake - Take One". As the first attempt was not slated, he must be slating the second attempt at the song that day.

Various recordings or bits of recordings of "Like A Rolling Stone" from the 15 and 16 June 1965 sessions have been released. The single,the H61R LP and Bootleg Series Vols.1-3 are obvious but some bits and pieces appeared on the "HIGHWAY 61 INTERACTIVE" CD-ROM that came out years ago (and which is all but impossible to play on current model home computers). There were also some acetates from the H61R sessions that surfaced way back when but I can't recall if these had any "Rolling Stone" takes on them.

Maybe I should get round to doing a bit of back-checking and writing some of this stuff up into an article some day.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 14:11:16 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: In Other News.....

I received my Amazon email this morning; with new releases. One that caught my eye is probably in Peter Viney's collection of vinyl. It reads like this.

"Digitally remastered and expanded edition of this extremely rare 1980 album from the singer/songwriter. Flash Harry was the 16th and final album released by Harry Nilsson. Originally issued only on vinyl in the U.K. and Japan. This legendary album has never been released in the U.S., and has not been available on CD. The album features Nilsson's own recording of "Old Dirt Road", co-written and performed with John Lennon on Lennon's album Walls and Bridges (1974). Other song collaborators include Lowell George, Van Dyke Parks and Ringo Starr. The opening track 'Harry' is performed by Eric Idle and Charlie Dore. The CD also includes three previously unreleased songs and an alternate version of "Old Dirt Road." The album was produced by famed guitarist Steve Cropper (best known as the guitarist of the Stax Records house band, Booker T. & the M.G.'s)." Sounds interesting. Also a compilation has been put together of Elvis Presley's recording sessions at Stax records in 1973. I didn't get a buzz; from that one; after reading description.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 12:38:13 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I just checked "The Telegraph" for Krosgaard's session notes, but as I'm sure you found, he doesn't have a picture of the tape ID for Like A Rolling Stone, but he does note five takes on June 15th, and 15 more takes on June 16th, which is a lot for Dylan. Well worth the effort!


Entered at Mon Aug 26 11:45:43 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Dylan, "LARS" and tracks

The 1965 and 1966 session sheets from the New York studio have "4 track" written on them and this seems to have started in early 1965 or possibly late 1964. I assume that there had been a change in recording equipment at some point because, for Dylan's "ANOTHER SIDE OF ..." session in June 1964, the session sheets have "3 Tck" and "3 TRACK 190 Tape" handwritten on them. Sometimes, the "4 Track" and "3 Track" writing looks like it's been added later in marker pen but sometimes it looks as though the writing is contemporanous with the session.

Dylan's previous producer, John Hammond, didn't write (or have written) 3-track on the sheets but, for some sessions, there is an indication of which instrument is on which track. For example, on one 1962 session, the "Guitar" is on "A", the "Vocal + Harm" is on "C" and the "Bass" is on "B".


Entered at Mon Aug 26 11:16:51 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'm sure Dylan appreciated the organ part, and that's why it's so prominent in the record, as he had the choice during and afterwards. What I meant rather is that 40 plus years on (nearly fifty!) I wonder if he understands that to many listeners in the crowd when he plays, the organ part is such an integral and important part of the song, rather than the "version."

The 4-track was news. Al Kooper has said he asked for the organ to be turned up, but was that on playback, or as they started another take?

The tape ID sheets on "Another Self Portrait" are added as decoration … it would have been a good read. New Morning shows the assignment of the 16 tracks, as does Sign On The Window.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 10:54:09 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Dylan and "Like A Rolling Stone"

Regarding Al Kooper's organ part on "Like A Rolling Stone", I rather think Dylan did appreciate its contribution. The story is that, on listening to the playback, Dylan asked for the organ part to be turned up. despite the protestations of producer Tom Wilson.

What has intrigued me about this is that the session sheets for that period have "4 track" written on them, so I would have thought it unlikely that the organ had a track to itself. If I'm right, turning up the organ part would have turned up another instrument as well. Can anyone here shed light on this thought?


Entered at Mon Aug 26 03:06:42 CEST 2013 from (74.78.175.69)

Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Rockport, ME

Subject: IOW

I enjoyed listening to the streaming of the "new" Bob Dylan stuff on NPR. I listened to "Minstrel Boy" several times, as that is a period I'm fascinated with. I kept hearing Levon Helm! Which lead me to believe that it was recorded much later than the general basement tapes - as it is not on any of the boots from that period. Im guessing they recorded the rehearsals for IOW - if true that would mean an additional trove - as Levon had mentioned that they could have gone on a lot longer at IOW. Who knows? Sure is fun to think about. Enjoy!


Entered at Mon Aug 26 02:39:06 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

RC / JT: I loved Minglewood's first LP when it came out - end of the '70s, I guess. The link is to the song that got the most FM play at the time, "Swing Low Sweet Cadillac". He then went too southern boogie for me, though I understand that he later had the good sense to record David Wiffen's magnificent "Driving Wheel" - as did the Cowboy Junkies. Still, not even Wiffen's own recordings of the song come close to Tom Rush's.

PV: Funny that you should bring up the various LARS versions; just yesterday an old friend and I went to some effort to famliarise a new friend (who owns the record store we were in) about the joys of the "Albert's Hall" version. Even played his store copy for him. Mission accomplished.


Entered at Mon Aug 26 01:08:16 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: All's Quiet on the Western Front.. and on the GB too

I guess everyone is so overwhelmed by the propsect (and or receipt) of Dylan/Band IOW and Self Portrait/New Morning OTs that we are rendered speechless!


Entered at Sun Aug 25 10:47:25 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

To expand, I'm sure Bob has never taken on board that for many listeners, Al Kooper's organ part in the original is an equal part of the song's appeal.


Entered at Sun Aug 25 08:38:39 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rolling on the IoW

There is no comparison in sound between the new Isle of Wight (IoW) and the Self Portrait versions, let alone the bootleg, which I’ve had in two versions. Take Like A Rolling Stone. For years, I thought the IoW version on Self Portrait was deliberately pissing on his best-known song, so hurried and scuffled through did it sound. I used to do a talk on Dylan for language students in the late 70s, about four times a year, and I had extracts of Like A Rolling Stone: the original, the live 1966 (from the Royal Albert Hall boot, as it was then known), the Self Portrait IoW and Before The Flood, so three with The Band. Put them together and the 1970 one came off pretty badly. The most exciting is 1966, but if I was off to the proverbial desert island, I’d take the original.

The thing is, once you hear it on the new remaster, while it is still a bit of a throwaway by Bob, it makes sense. I would guess that because he records the first or other early take to capture inspiration, songs aren’t “fixed” at all for him. I’d doubt he listens much to his records once they’re made, which is why he makes no attempt to replicate the sound, but just reinterprets his lyric.

Looking at the set list, I reckon they had thought a live album of IoW possible. There are three unreleased tracks: Wild Mountain Thyme, Mighty Quinn, Minstrel Boy, the last unknown in any way. A nice spread of songs.

Why did they put such dreadful mixes on Self Portrait in the first place? Who knows. I went with the reviews I read at the time, that the performance was mediocre, disappointing, with Dylan and Band on poor form. Listening to the new recording that’s manifestly untrue, as a few dissenting voices have pointed out in the meantime.

As to The Band’s set, they were delayed because they couldn’t get the sound system right, and it was said they were still trying through the set. They’d got the best they could by the time Dylan joined them. The boots of The Band’s set I’ve heard are all muddy and distant. Maybe they thought they played better than Woodstock, but the recent boots of Woodstock are just about release quality.


Entered at Sun Aug 25 03:38:08 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Matt Minglewood

The East Coast is underrepresented in any discussion of Canadian Music. I named Sloan (a favourite for me). Rockin' Chair. Thank you. Mingelwood continues to play throughout the east coast with about 8-10 gigs/month. Check out his web site for dates. He got some Ontario radio play in the late 70s and 80s. And great story. Thanks for sharing!

I'm sure there are many other high quality bands that we've forgotten. Thanks for the recognition of Rough Trade. That sure was a good band with talent abounding.

And Peter, I've had a chance to hear some of Bootleg 10 and it is, as the kids say, awesome in some parts and merely excellent in others.


Entered at Sun Aug 25 02:00:39 CEST 2013 from (99.141.54.126)

Posted by:

Adam

Subject: Isle Of Wight

The Band's solo "Isle Of Wight" set has been available in a great sounding audience recording, from the taper's master back in 1969. It is a great set, and I get the impression that the guys considered it a better performance than Woodstock.

How about a "Live 1969" release, with the audio of The Band's Isle Of Wight set, and all the footage from their Woodstock set a few weeks earlier? "Tears Of Rage" wasn't performed at IOW, and the Woodstock footage of that is essential.


Entered at Sun Aug 25 01:47:37 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: LAND HO!!!!!!!!!

I just hit land about yesterday......blah!blah!blah!

How is yuz'all?? OK...you east coasters. I got myself listening to Matt Minglewood the last while. Any of yuz know how he is?? I reckon he's still in his same place.

Now I've got a story for you, some of you may like......settle down Jan....I won't take up much room.

I just had a tow from Naydon Harbour, (that's right at the top of Haida Gwaii). These fellas in Port Hardy I do a lot of work with, well....up in Smith Inlet, they have a lodge, "Great Bear Nature Tours.". Used to be a logging camp there years ago, so there is a lot of roads. Now they have people fly into the lodge. They have a couple of school buses there. They take people out to watch, and take pictures of grizzly bears. It seems the people of Germany are very taken with this. They have so many guests they ran out of room. So they bought this fishing lodge. It's like a hotel on a cement float. I had to go and drag it home.

To amuse myself on this very long trip, I counted and recorded whales. 176......173 humpback whales and 3 killer whales, (orcas). Now if any of you would like to see some cool pictures, just e mail me.... tugmanatshawdotca

So what I'm coming to is this. Just on the west side of Rose Spit....(a long neck of land that sticks out off the north-east corner of Haida Gwaii) this little dolphin joined us. They love to play along under your bow as you travel. They do this a lot, but.......this little dolly stayed with us for two days. Over 200 hundred miles. I got some great pictures of her.

This is said to be good luck. For me it has been proved many times. Here's the example this time. This gawd damn lodge had tons of huge barnacles and marine growth on it which slowed me down considerably and made it a hard pull.

When I got down below Grenville Channel, I measured my fuel and started calculating. Son of a bitch....I'm gonna have to tie this damn thing at old Butedale, (an old closed down fish cannery), run down to Shearwater, get fuel and come back........I'm not happy!

Not half an hour later, Prince Rupert traffic calls me. "Westcoaster, the Central Coaster is coming your way, he'll probably meet you about Kingcomb Point." Now the Central Coaster is a self propelled barge, owned by Shearwater Marine that delivers fuel to the remote communities. I try to call him, traffic says,"He's a little to far away, I don't think he can hear you." So I ask, can you get me a phone number from him?.......standby, he comes back with the number. I call the barge,( we have sat. phones out here.) the company I'm towing this camp for has an account with them. At Kingcomb Point, they come along side and fuel me up! Is that not good luck?????......It was that little dolphin......I know it. I believe there are angels amoung us, really.......you got to believe.


Entered at Sat Aug 24 23:14:57 CEST 2013 from (208.120.36.230)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Glad to hear the Isle of Wight set will be released separately down the road. I want the regular 'Another Self-Portrait', but the deluxe set is sporting a pretty aggressive pricetag... $98.98 on Amazon as of today. I'm in no hurry. :)


Entered at Sat Aug 24 17:58:47 CEST 2013 from (184.71.181.22)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Sorry

Should have gone to Amazon right away. Got my answer. Thanks.


Entered at Sat Aug 24 17:43:47 CEST 2013 from (184.71.181.22)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Question

Other than the books, is the only difference between the 2 CD set and the deluxe version, the Isle of Wight and original Self Portrait not included? Just wondering?


Entered at Sat Aug 24 15:35:23 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Devaluing the music

I just bought Sony's "Perfect Blues Collection" see link. I paid £39, but amazon have it for £33.99. Twenty-five classic CDs, including The Real Thing by Taj Mahal, Texas Flood by Stevie ray Vaughan, Hard Again by Muddy waters, Just Like You by Keb Mo, Life, Love, The Blues by Etta James plus a load of classic, original albums. That's £1.36 an album, about the same as the Atlantic box set of original LPs recently. A bargain? An education? Yes. But …


Entered at Sat Aug 24 15:10:12 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: One To Many Mornings

Link to article about the 1999 version … mind you, now the Another Portrait box set is out, it needs an extra paragraph on the IoW version.


Entered at Sat Aug 24 14:43:05 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Isle of wight

Jed, I would have put a link to "Tangled Up in Blues" but I was on my iPad which i find impossible for that. It's a great version.

The Isle of Wight set … I spoke to a record store manager this morning, saying I guessed the Isle of Wight Dylan set would be released eventually. His reply? He had wondered the same, so phoned Sony and asked and was told "third week in January" then an "Oops, we're not meant to say that."


Entered at Sat Aug 24 13:07:33 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Thanks,Peter


Entered at Sat Aug 24 12:28:27 CEST 2013 from (188.177.65.222)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: North Zealand, Hamlet's castle (this time)

To be or gb.


Entered at Sat Aug 24 10:05:00 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: The Band and Dylan

My understanding of The Band's contract (and I am happy to be disabused of this view) was that members of The Band could participate in Dylan recordings on an individual basis. That is, they could do so without involving Capitol Records but not under a collective name. Hence no reference to "The Band" on the original SELF PORTRAIT or PLANET WAVES.

Then came BEFORE THE FLOOD and THE BASEMENT TAPES, which are joint albums and these lead me to a pet theory of mine. I have to give the context, so please stay with me.

When Dylan started his 1970 recording sessions, he had set up a joint session with The Byrds but it fell through. The story goes that Dylan was waiting in the New York studio but The Byrds did not turn up. Indeed, The Byrds had flown! Back to California in this case. When interviewed about this, Roger McGuinn hinted that, quite apart from whatever misunderstanding had caused this, there was the question of billing and royalties. The Byrds (or their management, I suspect) wanted one-third.

Now back to BEFORE THE FLOOD and THE BASEMENT TAPES. These are joint albums, as I say, and, though it's not an exact count, The Band get roughly one third of the tracks and Dylan gets the rest. Is this merely a coincidence, I wonder?

Brickbats welcome.


Entered at Sat Aug 24 07:47:50 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Band IoW set

I’d be surprised if the IoW disc isn’t out by Christmas. The nice thought is that they’d do a 2 CD set with The Band’s solo set added to make it different, and we know Sony like to add stuff to ensure you buy it twice. On the other hand, the cassettes of The Band’s solo set are in awful quality, worse even than the Dylan set used to be in bootleg form. As The Band were signed to Capitol (but allowed to record with Dylan under the contract) you wonder whether CBS would have been motivated to roll the full tape from the mobile studio on their set. Was that covered by the “with Dylan” deal? I’d guess not. Does it exist? As Al Kooper discovered, lots of stuff that everyone had said was scrapped, wasn’t. I’d be surprised if they didn’t tape it … if only as a way of judging the levels in preparation for the Dylan set, but if they didn’t have the rights to it, would they have stored it?

We know the Woodstock set now exists on very good quality boots, so much so that I’m amazed The Band hasn’t released it. The IoW set, so close in time, has the same songs. How about a Band live set with both concerts?


Entered at Sat Aug 24 04:02:52 CEST 2013 from (24.108.1.255)

Posted by:

BONK

Subject: NOTB Bands

Rough Trade. 4 gold and 2 Platinum Albums. Not bad. Carol Pope was my neighbor in Cabbagetown and then at Bay and Charles and she loved the Band.


Entered at Sat Aug 24 02:03:51 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: ANOTHER SELF PORTRAIT

My De Luxe box arrived this morning just as I was going out, so I've played nothing yet, though I did look through the books during the course of the day.

I agree with Peter V regarding the photobook. I might look at more than he suggests but, once seen, it is of limited long-term value. There is a Basement-era photo of Dylan with some musicians who you will probably confirm as memebers of The Band. There are no photo captions.

The liner notes are OK and that's about all I can say about them. I may revise my view in due course but they did not really grab me today.

This second book has more techie stuff about the various recordings, including photos of several tape boxes, with labels indicating the content of the tapes therein. One of the illustrations appears repeated and what I assume to be the desired image omitted. The explanatory text is lacking, too.

The "Big Box" (as some have called it) has been in the works for some time. I do object to the inclusion of the remastered SELF PORTRAIT in the Bootleg Series 10 release when it will be included in the "Big Box" release, just over two months later,

Sony have a habit of including an exclusive CD in a special box-set release and then making it available separately as a more-or-less regular release.


Entered at Sat Aug 24 00:28:49 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: One too many mornings

It is from Tangled up in Blues, a Dylan tribute album. It's in the Discography on the site.


Entered at Sat Aug 24 00:20:15 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Question

Just watched a YouTube of One Too Many Mornings with Rick singing,Levon on drums and harmonica,Garth on B-3,Jim Weider on guitar,and Derek Trucks! Derek must have been between 15-18 years old but throws down an awesome slide guitar solo.Never knew this existed.Anyone know the year,or any other information about his song? Names of all band members?Was this on an album? Thanks.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 22:38:35 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

$100 is close … I think it came to £78 with postage. The package is as good as they get though I will admit that I've looked through the handsome book of photos and I'm done with it now. It may be years before I leaf through again. It's by no means just the IoW disc though that is essential, but the first two CDs are great, I haven't heard CD4 (basically the 1970 disc remastered) yet. Minstrel Boy from the Basement - allegedly. I doubt it … is very short and incomplete. You are really buying three CDs for £25 each, assuming you have the fourth.

But more is to come. There's a little flyer in the box advertising the Complete Album Collection box set for Fall 2013, 41 CDs, 14 of them remastered (so 27 of them exactly what you've already got), and with it you get the 2 CD set "Side tracks" of all the non-album stuff. Will that be released separately? Or are we going to have to buy 41 CDs to get it? I guess we will have to if we jump in initially, but that six months later it will be issued on its own. As this IOW disc may be.

The "screw various artists" is humorous, a way of indicating the importance of a new Band album, not a way of dissing The Saddies or Brian AdamsApple or Alanis MorrisOxford or Blue Romeo.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 22:05:18 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Arm & a Leg Series

I still trying to convince myself that the Dylan set is worth the $100 price of admission, as the IofW disc is the only thing that interests me.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 21:58:41 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.26)

Posted by:

Kevin J

My My, the guardian of manners at the GB is in a tizzy and being slightly rude….there can be room for more than one conversation at a time Peter……and not always directed by you……It was the “Screw” bit that was was wrong – that’s all....I am sure we will all get to the Dylan discussion – we always do.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 21:47:47 CEST 2013 from (184.66.137.72)

Posted by:

JT

Subject: Dylan/Band

Peter V: Dylan/Band Bootleg Series 10 is like a 5 course meal. You have to listen and listen again and digest and then the discussion will arise and continue and all will be as you wish it in the world of GB. What I have heard I love. I await delivery for the rest. TBA


Entered at Fri Aug 23 21:38:37 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Great Balls & Rings of Fire

Speaking of Johnny Cash, I can't help but think of "Cowboy" Jack Clement, the legenday engineer, producer & songwriter who passed away earlier this month. Among his countless credits is engineering "Great Balls of Fire" recorded by Jerry Lee Lewis at Sun in Memphis and arranging the mariachi horns on Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire."


Entered at Fri Aug 23 21:26:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Screw all these various artists however good they are … a major Band / Dylan release is among us! Go to iTunes and try New Morning as Al Kooper mixed it with full horn section.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 21:18:25 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.26)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Lindberg

And let’s not forget a Canadian and international superstar ( though not in the US ) and truly great songwriter – up there with Young, Cohen, Mitchell and Robertson – the great Robert Charlebois…………remember that 8.5 million of Canada’s 33 million people are from Quebec. Robbie Robertson wrote a number of Band classics while living in Quebec ( Montreal ) – early 70’s and Leonard Cohen wrote many of his beauties while living in the Province – but for the most part, most people tend to overlook it…… Language I guess and selling millions in Europe as Charlebois did never does receive the same buzz that someone selling millions South of the border does.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 20:55:13 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.26)

Posted by:

Kevin J

When Johnny Cash died, Bob Dylan noted, “Johnny was and is the North Star; you could guide your ship by him – the greatest of the greats then and now.” In Canada we tend not to put our greats on pedestals, but for anyone who has ever travelled far and wide in this country and knows what is like to truly be in the middle of nowhere in a one radio and 2 station TV town – hearing Gordon Lightfoot sift through from just about everywhere helped guide a lot of people through wherever they were going or however they were feeling………………….. And I always loved the fact that he kept his band on full time salaries – always - whether they were on tour or not.

Dave H: Moxy Fruvous - as forgettable as they were did feature a member of the band ( drummer I believe ) that went on to considerable and deserved renown in Canada as a radio host/interviewer specializing in music – Jian Ghoneshi……..who was a favorite of the late Steve of this GB. Other than getting riled up by something printed in the New York Post, I am not sure there was a greater source of Steve’s topics than CBC Q host Jian.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 20:30:48 CEST 2013 from (184.66.137.72)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Tea Party (not politics)

Dave H: You reminded me that Moxy Fruvous opened for Bob Dylan at Massey Hall some years ago. The Sadies are great! The Ladies are flying high again with the theme to "Big" played countless times a day on many TV stations. They are still 'a big thing' in Canada even without Steve. Their hit songs get a lot of Canadian airplay now and their cover of Cockburn is also a regular in rotation on the radio stations. By the way - Tea Party- fantastic Canadian band with a different sound. They MUST be included in any list of the best.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 20:27:18 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: pleas

David P: let's not forget the Sadies, but please, let's forget Nickelback.

It's significant that the [My link] profile was published in a _business_ journal . . . .


Entered at Fri Aug 23 19:56:08 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Another Canadian group that's had success here in the U.S. and elsewhere is Nickelback. And let's not forget The Sadies. They did a fine job on Garth's Canadian Celebration of The Band, with their own version of "The Shape I'm In", as well as backing Neil Young on "This Wheel's On Fire" and Mary Margaret O'Hara on "Out of the Blue." Although they haven't achieved mainstream success, they've gained recognition in alt-country circles.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 19:52:32 CEST 2013 from (136.167.102.150)

Posted by:

Dave H

There was sort of a "quirkly Canadian" invasion of sorts in the alt-rock era of the mid-1990s: Crash Test Dummies, Moxy Fruvous, Barenaked Ladies, etc. all had a fair amount of success in the States.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Gordon is the maple leaf

So engrained is Gordon in the Canadian fabric that I think of him as an icon (maple leaf on the flag etc). Anne Murray and KD. Lang while we are at it (as pure a voice as can be). For sure.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 19:04:31 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Minstrel Boy

The "Basement Tapes" version credits all five Band members with instruments, but it only has an acoustic guitar and electric bass, a couple of notes on piano in one place, plus voices. It says "circa 1967". I'd guess it was an Isle of Wight rehearsal though! They are surprisingly sloppy on these things … .


Entered at Fri Aug 23 18:44:00 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: NOTHING like The Mighty Quinn (was before)

The thing about the Isle of Wight is all five Band guys are clear and distinct … the piano has been mixed much higher and the bass sound is stellar … you always did hear Robbie and Garth on the boots and original Self Portrait, but it's so good to get Richard restored to a proper place in the mix. Just listen to Garth on Rainy Day Women … I could go on!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Encore Link of Elvis covering Lightfoot


Entered at Fri Aug 23 18:15:15 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

...and of course, conspicuous by their absence in this unexpected but touching little stroll down Canadian music fame, are one of Bob Dylan's favourite singer songwriters - the great Gordon Lightfoot and one of the truly beautiful voices that reached peaks no other Canadian singer has come close to - Anne Murray.

I like to think that Al Edge is close to Heaven right about now......proud, maybe listening to songs by that guy from NJ.........as long as a little soccer player doesn't sneak up on him and bite him on the shoulder....all should be perfect for him.


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Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Movin' On

Don't forget about the Singing Ranger from Brooklyn, Queens County, Nova Scotia, Hank Snow, who became a major country star. He helped Evis Presley when he was first starting out. That brings up that bit of Elvis trivia that some find hard to believe. Elvis only performed three times outside the U.S. -- Toronto, Ottawa and Vancouver in 1957. On that same tour he played a couple dates in Hawaii, which was two years before it gained statehood, but it was still officially U.S. territory. Check out the link to a Hank Snow song that adds a South American Latin flavor to North American country.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 17:51:46 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Another Self Portrait

Just arrived from amazon three days early - perhaps to miss the English holiday on Monday when it is officially released. The packaging is beautiful, and the first CD on the system (right now) is obviously the IOW Concert … the CD has the Swingin' Pig Trademark of Quality design for fun. It is a complete sonic revelation, I had the boot for years, and yes, now you can hear Levon all over Highway 61 Revisited (the first one I tried).

Listening to "Minstrel Boy" you wonder how they made it feel so rough and distant in 1970 … it sounds FANTASTIC here.

One Too Many Mornings sounded plain misguided on the boots, but here it makes perfect sense in its completely different version. Robbie and Garth are flat out.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 16:37:25 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

sadavid: Interesting and sad article about the Doukhobors(Band link: Ferdinand The Imposter). A few years ago I had lunch with a work contact in Vancouver, and he turned out to have represented the Doukhobors on a local inter-faith roundtable. He gave me to understand that Christianity was originally (if not now) a flag of convenience. This is certainly not a criticism, as it is totally understandable that those adhering to mystical faiths would claim adherence to a dominant faith, even if they continue to reject that faith's dogma; beats being burned at the stake, in my mind.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 15:44:55 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: sects change

The past (troubled) and future (doubtful) of the Doukhobors in Georgia (the one that's always on my-my-my-my-my-my-my-my-my-mind).


Entered at Fri Aug 23 15:38:12 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: We're A Canadian Band

Let us not forget Cowboy Junkies in our list of Canadians. Another band which should have had a major impact. What a superb sound with Margot et al.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 14:39:28 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

NWC: What, all of them Finnish, including the Tijuana Brass? Would explain the clourful costumes, I suppose.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 14:08:14 CEST 2013 from (83.249.143.62)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Mexico

No one in TIJUANA BRASS were from Mexico. On the other hand, no one in LENINGRAD COWBOYS is from Leningrad either...


Entered at Fri Aug 23 08:58:55 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter v

Cesar Rosas of Los Lobos was born in Mexico, but the band started in LA. I was thinking Trini Lopez, for that Mickey Jones connection, but he was born in Dallas, Texas.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 06:12:59 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Bryan Adams

Photographer, philanthropist and singer/songwriter Bryan Adams had a couple of solid decades and is still out there. He has an international presence. For a small population (30+ million), there sure are a lot of big names.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 06:00:48 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Loreena

Bill: Thanks for reminding me of some. Loreena in my book is special. Her work has been consistent and excellent. She has a US presence and in fact an international presence. Alanis did very well and was a flare. I quite liked her big album. Sarah is very good and again consistent/solid. Avril - not my cup of tea but she did well. Nelly from Victoria also has a US presence.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 04:38:41 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.86)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: Let us not forget Alanis Morrisette and, a few million behind, Avril Lavigne. Sarah MacLachlan, and even Loreena McKinnet.


Entered at Fri Aug 23 00:55:17 CEST 2013 from (99.52.71.217)

Posted by:

Calvin

Carlos Santana is really the only Mexican born performer with any significant chart success that comes to mind. There was a band in the 1960s, Los nombres is the name in my head but I'm not sure, that charted a few times. Could swear one of the members was related to Ritchie Valens.

Rush got tons of play where i grew up in the mid 70s.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Southern USA but no cigar

Los Lobos- out of East Los Angeles. Doug Sahm - San Antonio, Tx. Can't think of any Mexican rock and roll bands who made the charts or had US success. Anyone?


Entered at Thu Aug 22 23:51:20 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Subject: Danger, Will Robinson

You've got me thinkin' now, ya'll. Speaking of borders, we never get much from south of the USA. Los Lobos sound like they could be from Mexico. Pinback (San Diego) is close. Interesting that rock and roll bands etc do not eminate much (a few Latin single acts have made it) to the USA.


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: South of the border

Kevin J: And Stompin' Tom wasn't talking about a skipping the book store either.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 23:07:21 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

JT: Remember Stompin Tom had another term for them ones!


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Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: No politics intended

"Leftists" - not a political term or accusation of any kind. It just asserts that they left for greener pastures and to achieve. Good on them for knowing what to do and when to do it.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 22:55:49 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Oh Canada

Bands who I think should have or should have had international status: Tragically Hip, Blue Rodeo (probably late now) Sloan ,Be-Good Tanyas (now dissolved I think with one or two of them independently continuing) 54-40 (probably a little late, but they were good in their time), Odds (probably late now), New Pornographers, Destroyer (Dan Behar), Braids (their time will come), Metric (they are getting there). I'm sure there are more. The great ' bands' of the early 60s (Richie Knight and the Midnites, A Passing Fancy, Jon and Lee and the Checkmates, Rhinoceros (who should have been huge with Bruce Botnick etc) and of course I cannot believe that Kensington Market did not find US prominence (we've talked about this before) given the superb talent. On the other hand, Bruce Cockburn stayed in Canada a long time and did achieve some status with his hits. (he apparently now lives in San Francisco with his family). The holy triumvirate of Cohen, Mitchell and Young are those 'leftists' who found greener pastures and achieved in the USA but still had some Canadian identity.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 22:46:46 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

....and I believe Arcade Fire's winning of the top Grammy award "Album of the Year" a few years ago was something that no other Canadian rock band has done. That certainly moves an outfit to mainstream overnight.

Rush is the truly amazing story in rock......hardly any radio support for years, no mainstream rock mag support at all ......but a mind blowing committment to touring the US and ther lands (220 gigs a year for years on end )......and the result is 45 million in albums sold and not an empty seat in any arena they ever play anywhere in the world..........no help from me though as I own none of their material and am not really a fan..........that all said, the documentary on them from a few years ago is fabulous and fan or not, I would highly recommend people here checking it out.

Well done Todd.....a proper application of the phrase......not sure how it moved from acknowledgment of a favour asked to replacing "You're Welcome" as if the young lady making a tomato and lettuce sandwich for me for $5.00 should have the slightest thought that I thought it would have been a problem for her in the first place.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 22:26:45 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: I know it may be a cause for censorship but...

Bill M: Since we are talking Buble, consider Dion (not Dimucci). There are big names like that who gain US status and thrive. Twain is another one.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 22:24:41 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Vic

Subject: Arcade Fire

Thanks for reminding us about Arcade Fire. SNL appearance confirmed their heavenly (translate US prominence) status. They continue to thrive and for good reason.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 21:09:20 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Big in the States

In recent years I guess Arcade Fire has had the most success among Canadian groups down here. Last year they got a boost from their contribution to the Hunger Games soundtrack and have a new album set for release in October. The group is also providing music for an upcoming Spike Jonze film.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 21:09:15 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: I think it's sometimes difficult to get a true read on the popularity of Canadian acts abroad. We're so used to our big fish turning out to be small fry outside Canada that we assume that that's always the case. BTO and Guess Who were pretty big in the US, but more like Three Dog Night than rock and roll gods. Rush is a different story - they really are huge, even in far-away Australia. Less than a month ago I learned that Michael Buble too is big internationally - so big that the appearance of a Buble tribute artist down the beach from us in Eastbourne, England was big news.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 19:51:18 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Big in the states

Interesting thing about excellent Canadian bands. All of us can think of many Canadian bands who were huge in Canada and somehow, for whatever reason, did not achieve prominence in the USA. Blue Rodeo and Tragically Hip come to mind. There are of course so many reasons regarding how they are promoted, management, etc. Rush was huge in some pockets (Texas; massive). Going back a time, I think BTO and Guess Who achieved US status. Of course, there are those who 'left' to 'make it' but that is of course another story.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 19:44:07 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Marian Mcparland

I was lucky enough to live in the same town as Ms Mcparland. She played an annual concert here in town. We were very lucky to have her as a neighbor


Entered at Thu Aug 22 19:08:38 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Calvin, one of the interesting things about the McPartland-Evans interview is that it was--at least for me--the first time I heard Bill speak at length. And, in that, I was surprised at how New Jersey he sounded, even though I knew he was from there. It wasn't until later that I found "The Universal Mind of Bill Evans" where he talks to an even greater degree about music and his approach.

Marian had some Chicago roots through her husband and did a number of stints here that were legendary. Great player, great human.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 18:42:57 CEST 2013 from (24.252.150.9)

Posted by:

Calvin

You're Welcome Bill (He said out of fear of Kevin coming after him if he stood near a cliff). I saw Blue Rodeo years ago on a talk show-Im thinking Carson, It was Casino era-as they did After the Rain and were mentioned as a Canadian Band about to become big in the states, for whatever reason they never did. But I was a fan from then on, and Gray's 12 year stint in the band produced some really good work. They often play a club not too far from where I live that is far from a large venue, but it certainly gets all the cool kids-or at least acts I like.

Marian McPartland's Piano Jazz was the longest running cultural program in the history on NPR. Fantastic showcase for Jazz. And an unique player. The Obit in the New York Times ended with a quote from an interview done with her near the end of her life. Unlike some jazz musicians of her generation, Ms. McPartland never became set in her ways; her playing grew denser and more complex with time, and even late in life she was experimenting with new harmonic ideas. “I’ve become a bit more — reckless, maybe,” she said in 1998. “I’m getting to the point where I can smash down a chord and not know what it’s going to be, and make it work.” Someone coming to her through Steely Dan made me smile.

Peterson was on her program twice, one of the first shows in 78 and then again in the late 90s. A lot of her episodes can be ordered or found on you tube.

But for me the moment I understood the creative mind of the musician, or at east started do was the Bill Evans interview in the fall of 78. I was a teenager then and when Evans started talking about how and why he played the way he did, his stops and starts and such-I never looked at musicians the same way again. It can be found on Youtube, broke up into 7-08 minute sections. It was a pivotal moment for me as a listener and an player of music.

I take it the program wasnt syndicated on CBC? Both the NPR stations in my area broadcast As it Happens-so I assume there is some sort of relationship between CBC and NPR?

The archiving offices for the firm myself and two others started are actually in what is called Ideastream-Which is the Cleveland NPR station, the PBS TV station, and the local Classical Music Station. They are also one of our clients,a s we keep up their archives-its pretty cool work-plus when my latest book came out they interviewed me on their local shows. Gotta say I'm made for radio, deep voice and a face made for radio-hated watching the TV Interviews.

Rambling now, back to the Joni Mitchell listening binge Ive been on lately.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Peaceful easy feeling

No problem Kevin.

.....and you're welcome ;-)


Entered at Thu Aug 22 18:12:48 CEST 2013 from (70.53.44.242)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Thank You

A favour requested from all here at the GB…..The next time you say “Thank you” to someone and they respond with “No Problem”………please do push them off the nearest cliff for me……..Just before they land scream “You’re welcome”


Entered at Thu Aug 22 15:59:41 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Bob Dylan on Johnny Cash


Entered at Thu Aug 22 15:45:58 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Calvin: Thanks also for noting the passing of James Gray, Blue Rodeo's long-time keyboardist.

Re Oscar Peterson, it surprised me to hear Garth Hudson say that they'd never met, despite having played mere blocks apart in Yonge Street clubs in the early '60s.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 06:26:53 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Marian McPartland & Oscar Peterson ( a Habs fan - not that it matters )

Calvin: Thank you for those thoughts on a Lady of Jazz that I was not familiar with. ........I have learnt more about music and guitar from spending years studying with one of Toronto's finest jazz guitarists than I would have with anyone else - even though I approach nothing to this day that would be considered Jazz............On long drives and with satellite radio I have recently discovered the world of NPR.......sorry I missed out on this special lady and her shows..........favorite Oscar Peterson story for me is told by Quincy Jones about how he invited a group of young Rappers to an industry party in the late 80's........they were carving out quite an intimidating presence and even the rock stars at the party were giving them a wide birth..........in walks Oscar Peterson.......brushes by and up against them to the piano and says "ok, time to get this thing started...". one of the Rappers turns to QJ and says "Now that's Gangsta"......and Quincy replied "Yes, no one messes with Oscar Peterson"


Entered at Thu Aug 22 06:17:34 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT and LvdB

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Marion McPartland remembered

Calvin: Thank you for bringing this to the GB. I have always been a big fan of Steely Dan and came to know Marion McPartland through her work with Steely Dan. The 2005 album is excellent. She was a consistent and significant influence through her various works in the area of jazz.


Entered at Thu Aug 22 00:41:38 CEST 2013 from (24.252.150.9)

Posted by:

Calvin

I dont believe she was ever syndicated or well known in the UK or Candada-which is odd as she was English by birth, but Marian McPartland, the long time host of NPR's Piano Jazz from 1978-2011 just passed away.

When it first came on in 1978 I was still a teenager and It was my first time hearing interviewed, and often simply hearing play, Oscar Peterson, Eudbie Blake, Hank Jones, Chick Corea, Teddy Wilson-the Bill Evans interview is still a must listen for any fan of jazz.

Later when I knew Jazz much better I kept tuning in for Alice Coltrane, Dave Brubeck (A Couple of times), McCoy Tyner, Dizzy Gillespie, Carmen Mcrea and Ahmad Jamal. In the mid late 80s an episode gave me an appreciation of Mel Torme that lasts to this day.

As the show grew she reached out to Bela Fleck, Willie Nelson, Elvis Costello, Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, Steely Dan and Bruce Hornsby.

When she retired in 2011, after all she was 93 and her performing career stretched back to 1938, NPR turned hosting duties of Piano Jazz to a protege of hers-after 13 episode they gave up and just starting rebroadcasting Marian's show-giving her protege his own show "Piano Jazz-Rising Stars". She was one of the musician invited to take part in the Great Day in Harlem shoot,

My love of jazz in large part stems from listening to her show-really the last musical death that hit my like this was Levon.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 21:21:53 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Al Kooper

Al Kooper was interviewed in UNCUT about the full production he did on a couple of New Morning tracks, Dylan had most of it removed, keeping just a couple of things. Kooper was told the tracks had been deleted, but lo and behold, they hadn't and he had a chance to remix then from the masters for Another Self portrait.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 21:17:50 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

And Tempest... heralded as a major comeback from Christmas in the Heart.

;)


Entered at Wed Aug 21 20:56:37 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

New Morning was the first of many "Dylan is Back" releases. BoTT, Slow Train, Infidels, TOOM are probably the major ones, although personally it's all a little too neat and clean.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 20:44:19 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: New Morning

I've also liked "New Morning", as for me it was a return to form for Dylan, a sign that his creative juices were flowing again. Adding to the impact, at the time a friend of mine was working at a local record distributor and I got a free copy in advance of it hitting the stores.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 20:34:24 CEST 2013 from (184.66.137.72)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Dylan

Yes John D. Glad you are enjoying the weather in Vancouver. You should get over here this weekend and we can go out for dinner or something. As for the impending Dylan, looking forward to it too. Have a good time. I'm in Vancouver next Friday to give a lecture.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 20:30:44 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Time Passes Slowly …

New Morning was a major favorite album for me too. I never understood why it was disregarded somewhat by critics, but I love Self Portrait too.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 19:36:29 CEST 2013 from (184.71.181.22)

Posted by:

John D

Location: Vancouver, this week

Subject: David P. NPR Dylan

First, good morning from the west coast. Weather here in Vancouver is beautiful

I have listened and re-listened to David's link this morning. I want to say that New Morning remains one of my favourite BD albums. His demo of "Went To See The Gypsy" opened up so many memories for me. I remember New Morning coming out very quickly after Self Portrait. I wondered at the time if it was the lukewarm reviews of Self Portrait that was the reason for the quick release? Nashville Skyline through JWH was an interesting "voice" for Dylan. I remember friends saying to me, "you know this is his REAL voice." I chuckled at the time because I had long sinced learned that when everyone appeared to get used to Bob's sound, he would take it in a different direction .

My wife who is 7 years younger than I and didn't go through the different stages of Dylan, asked me seriously, "who is that your listening to?" I told her it was a demo from Bob Dylan from the 1969-1971 period. She replied, "his voice is beautiful" and asked me to play it again. Not only was I hearing it; but through my wife..........a fresh set of ears. I really am looking forward to the release. JT this going to be good!


Entered at Wed Aug 21 19:25:35 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Al

Congratulations on your son's marriage

Last night on Palladia i saw Later with Jools HOlland. He had on Robert Plant, Arcade Fire Mabel Staples and Adele and a couple of others, Good show


Entered at Wed Aug 21 17:22:46 CEST 2013 from (70.53.45.93)

Posted by:

Kevin J

I’ve talked about this here in the past ……Sports is an important part of life for many people growing up because it is really the first subject that many young kids can feel accepted by family on equal terms with the grown-ups………..when a young guy is 10 or 11 and Uncle Biff and Aunt Betty come to the house and as everyone sits around the dinner table or living room……rarely would a child feel comfortable enough or be taken seriously if he or she starts offering opinions on politics or health care but most of us likely all remember that feeling when we could jump in at that age and talk about the strength of a hockey teams goaltending or correct the slightly tipsy Uncle Biff on the right fielder’s batting average…..the other grown-ups would nod and more often than not acknowledge the young kids expertise…….It was a good feeling.

Bill M: Watching the EPL on the weekends….I am actually enjoying the commentary as it really is quite different than NA sports productions………While we have migrated from the play-by-play guy having a colourman that used to provide real colour to a play-by-play guy who now is paired with moronic types of over analytical sidekicks like Pierre McGuire that use terms like “puck pursuit” and have no senses of humour……Harry Neale was the last real colourman in Hockey it seems…..some of the soccer guys still seem to have a bit of a wink in them…..plus I get a kick out of every sentence they utter ending in a question……..funny stuff.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 15:22:30 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: time warp

Ian Woodward: thanks for the HuffPo links.

Dolly's wonderful at any speed, but the Springsteen was nothing like anything except maybe the West Coast Sound of Ross Bagdasarian, or the divine Farinelli . . . .


Entered at Wed Aug 21 14:43:06 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

On football, reading how Tottenham are to spend the £85 million they got from Real Madrid (on two replacement foreign mercenaries) I find it hard to bemoan the loss of a single mercenary from a team, however good they are. These guys indeed light up pitches, but there’s always another younger model waiting, usually from South America or Africa. I don’t think any of them care what shirt they’re wearing, hence the extra appeal of Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs. Millionaire lifestyle is more suited to the capital.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 14:19:25 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Congratulations. Al. My son got married exactly one year ago this Saturday. No doubt, like me, you'll hear Bruce inside your head with "Walk Like A Man."

On Gladys, as k.d. lang might have said, "I'll be glad if you'll be frank."


Entered at Wed Aug 21 12:55:14 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Following a team...

There's following a team. Then there's really following a team.

The former I can't possibly comment upon.

The latter I most certainly can. It partly explains forinstance my absence from this GB. Virtually every internet second has been spent during this close season [3 months] scouring every website often till the wee wee hours for news of Suarez's future or the signing of the truly class player we crave to elevate our team to the Champions league level we take as our birthright.

My son gets married this Friday. I've done all that any father would do but I cannot lie when I say my major focus is who we sign, will Suarez stay and willing us to bring 3 points back on Saturday from Villa Park

It's pathetic, it's shameful, it's illogical. It's actually despicable. In fact it's whatever you care to call it. Sadly, it's the way it's been since I first toddled and it's the way it will be until I finally toddle off.

:-0)


Entered at Wed Aug 21 12:41:20 CEST 2013 from (77.102.201.158)

Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Courting days with dear Gwladys

So what were you doing in the back of the car last night?

I was feeling "bomp bomp" Glad all over

:-0)


Entered at Wed Aug 21 05:44:11 CEST 2013 from (72.196.146.232)

Posted by:

Calvin

Dont know if anyone mentioned it but James Gray, Keyboardist for Blue Rodeo from 1993-2005, passed away last week.

Great Keyboardist, really loved his work with my 2cd favorite Canadian band.


Entered at Wed Aug 21 05:10:06 CEST 2013 from (220.233.229.98)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Backup teams...

In Australia, we have two teams, the Australian national team, and whomever is playing England...


Entered at Wed Aug 21 01:44:25 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Glad All Over

In the mid 1960s, I was taken to Griffin park, the ground of Brentford, a team that has mostly stayed in the lower reaches of the English leagues. Back then, the stands and terraces around the playing area were rather rickety. At half-time, pop music was played over the loudspeakers and one of the songs that day was "Glad All Over". The crowd sang along and, at the appropriate points in the song, stamped their feet in unison. I swear the whole place shook in time with the music and the foot-stamping.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 23:42:25 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: Are these for real? I guess so.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/19/dolly-parton_n_3778768.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/20/bruce-springsteen-im-on-fire-dolly-parton_n_3783815.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular


Entered at Tue Aug 20 21:53:14 CEST 2013 from (70.53.45.93)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Link above from Sadavid's link......I have not seen these scenes before - sure most have but I guessed I missed the doc that these come from?......Ronnie Hawkins had another one of his lines saying a young pre-Hawks Robbie had a "Hubcap stealer look" about him!

Thank you Dunc. I really have to make a point of seeing a game live.....perhaps the next time I am in Europe.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 20:53:48 CEST 2013 from (31.53.17.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: This one's for you Kevin

Truly brilliant day, Kevin. Play to end.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 20:45:55 CEST 2013 from (70.53.45.93)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Above Link: George Harrison and Carl Perkins. Not great but I love seeing my favorite Beatle………funny Quiet Riot also did Glad All Over with the great Randy Rhodes on guitar.

From Wikipedia on Glad All Over….“Crystal Palace Football Club adopted the song as their anthem in the 1960s. It is played at the start of all home games, when they score, and at the end of home games, providing Palace win. On Saturday 10 February 1968 The Dave Clark Five played "Glad All Over" live at Crystal Palace's home park” Apparently other teams have started to also use it for goals………which seems wrong on all sorts of levels for rival teams to clip a bit of another teams tradition…..a pox on those ones………………………..and I will never shift away from Liverpool but it is ok to have a back-up team to cheer for.

Thanks Pat B…Wondering how the Dylan evening went? Arriving at a set list must have been half the battle.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 19:49:57 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: If you're not already emotionally invested, I suggest that you leave it that way and watch with the TV on mute. Soccer's usually pretty to watch, and why care who's winning? The play-by-play will seldom tell you anything you can't see with your own eyes or figure out with your own brain (e.g., "They're going to have to work really hard to turn this one around in the last five minutes, Chuck").


Entered at Tue Aug 20 19:44:20 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Union Street

Thanks Jon and Dennis. I should have realized about Brooklyn … my son lives in Fort Greene. But what about the Dylan picture (linked)? It's called House on Union Street. Mind you, maybe Dylan's listening to Simone Felice. As everyone should be.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 19:17:59 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Tottenham Sound

When the Dave Clark Five started the music press coined the Tottenham sound as a contrast to Mersey Beat. They used to play around the Tottenham area, and I thought the club they were formed to support was Tottenham Hotspur (Spurs). But Crystal Palace have used Glad All Over on scoring a goal for years, but other teams use it too. If you want to switch your allegiance from Liverpool (not that I advise that) I suspect you'll get more joy from Spurs than Crystal Palace.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 18:53:54 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Ry Cooder

Here's a link to a favorite track of mine: Ry Cooder playing on Bill Frisell's majestic instrumental version of "Shenandoah", from Mr. Frisell's GOOD DOG, HAPPY MAN album. It's a tribute to the great jazz guitarist Johnny Smith, who passed away recently, and based on Mr. Smith's definitive arrangement. It features Bill on acoustic guitar, Ry on electric guitars (including a stereo Ripley model), Viktor Krauss (Alison's brother) on acoustic bass and Jim Keltner on drums.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 18:40:57 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Kevin J, the DC5 was formed to raise money for Dave Clark's soccer team which I think was a local London area aggregation.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 18:11:27 CEST 2013 from (70.53.45.93)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Busy "Days" and the Dave Clark Five

On the weekend, I turned on the TV and as has become a custom in recent years turned to the channel that carries English Premier league football. Always hoping to catch a Liverpool game ( a team I adopted as a favorite in recent years largely because of Al Edge and Simon of this GB ) but alas, not to be as two other teams were playing….anyhow, from outside the living room, I hear the crowd singing “Glad All Over”…………….I am sure that this is very old news for everyone in the UK but is was the first time I had seen this and it was a great feeling…………generally, I am not a fan of crowd sing-alongs but this one seemed special to me….I now have a back-up favorite team in Crystal Palace…I take it they don’t have much of a chance but just listening to the coach/manager talk might be entertaining enough.

DVD Recommendation: Sticking to the British theme, the first season of “Endeavor” the prequel to the famous Inspector Morse series is 5 star television.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 17:08:25 CEST 2013 from (24.161.13.96)

Posted by:

Dennis

Location: West Saugerties

Subject: Union Square and Street

From their Wiki bio, " The Felice Brothers got their start as a band playing in the New York City subway. The sons of a carpenter, they would play together on Sundays at their father's afternoon barbecues. They stayed in a little apartment in Brooklyn and would play in the subway stations at 42nd Street and Union Square and in Greenwich Village. The three brothers originally hail from Palenville, New York in the Catskill Mountains."

I do remember a couple of years back while working at those Rambles, when they were first scheduled, some said, "Who?", but by the end of their set, folks were saying, "Where?" as in where are they playing next.

Lookin' forward to their Country Fair, a great venue with spectacular views of the Catskills.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 16:20:19 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: left coast Mavis

Ms. Staples and friends at Waterfront Blues Festival, Portland Oregon this July with a nice version of "The Weight" - Mavis pays tribute to Levon at the end . . . .


Entered at Tue Aug 20 16:07:41 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: L, I & R

GB celeb Sebastian (and a co-author) reveal the genesis of the project.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 16:03:20 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: Union Street

Peter, my two cents on Simone's song Union Street: the opening verse ("born in the Summer of Sam/all of New York City held its breath") takes me pretty quickly to a distinctly urban setting, not to Woodstock. There's a Union Street in Brooklyn that runs through the now-tony neighborhood of Park Slope... listening to the song I can imagine, particularly back in 'Reagan times', kids growing up in a neighborhood around there thinking of it as a 'safe' street bordered by potentially rougher ones ("if we could just get to Union Street, everything would be all right"). It's a wonderfully evocative song in any case... would love to know Simone's thoughts and the inspiration behind it.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 15:36:43 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Legends Icons & Rebels

I’m looking forward to the “Legends, Icons & Rebels” book, Sebastian. You must be treading a difficult line, in that you need an interesting story as well as good music, and then some artists are either plain dull in story terms (they just make records then go home and watch TV), or “too interesting” (Little Richard?) in ways unsuitable for the age group. I would have thought Chuck Berry had had some “too interesting” incidents too. As I’ve mentioned before, I think just about the only informative Chuck Berry interview was the one with Robbie on “Hail, Hail Rock & Roll” deluxe edition.

You must have mileage for many more in the series. There’s always another major artist to include.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 15:19:05 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Union Street

Dennis, talking of the Felice Brothers … we were talking to Simone after his Bath, UK show last year. The concert was just around the street from Union Street in Bath, and Union Street appears in three of his songs, and is the title of one. I took a photo of the sign on my phone waiting to go in and showed it to him … he really had "got to Union Street.".

Then last week I was passing an art gallery with Bob Dylan prints in the window (the train tracks one was £5000 and an edition of 290 prints). Anyway, the one I liked most was a wooden house, and that was called "Union Street." Is it a prominent Woodstock location? Presumably a desirable one too.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 14:37:04 CEST 2013 from (24.161.13.96)

Posted by:

Dennis

Location: West Saugerties
Web: My link

Subject: Felice Bros

Speaking of the Felice Bros the other day, we're all excited around here for their first annual country fair to be held here in Saugerties on August 31st. The event's to be held at the magnificent site of Opus 40, looks like a good time for all is planned. Guests include Amy Helm and Saugerties' own Connor Kennedy......if you're in the neighborhood, c'mon by!


Entered at Tue Aug 20 14:18:27 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

What, they moved Groundhog Day?


Entered at Tue Aug 20 11:56:31 CEST 2013 from (68.107.194.239)

Posted by:

Calvin

UGH, its what I get for posting at 5:55AM-meant to say my name "calvin", not put in yours Sebastian.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 11:55:20 CEST 2013 from (68.107.194.239)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Somehow Sebastian, and I dont know how as I usually keep pretty abreast of things kind of things, the book had flew completely under my radar. And when I did come across a story about it nowhere in the short review did it mention the book was intended for a young audience.

So my initial comment was based on confusion, wondering why someone of your dad's stature, with a massive amount of curiosity about him, would release such a mainstream book without one artist that would make me think "Huh, I need to check them out". When I realized it was meant for a youthful audience it made all the sense in the world.

But thanks for taking them time to address my question.


Entered at Tue Aug 20 06:14:24 CEST 2013 from (98.149.168.95)

Posted by:

Sebastian

Subject: Legends Icons And Rebels

hey calvin - i happened upon your comment about the upcoming release. no one has their hands on it yet, not even me, but the it is just around the corner. as far as the selection process goes i completely understand your point of view. however we were very conscious of not coming across as too cool for school. our target audience needs a proper introduction to the what might be considered the most popular of the all time greats. we are trying to speak to 8,9,10,11 year old kids so i think what some of us might see as somewhat obvious choices, to our audience, in many cases will be their first exposure. we do hope to follow with several more volumes of this idea and hopefully in those we can dig a bit deeper. any particular artists you would have liked to have seen in the book? my dad and i are always open to suggestions... cheers.


Entered at Mon Aug 19 22:50:05 CEST 2013 from (68.196.242.88)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Pat, and all. Practiced correctly, digital recording- i.e- the act of capturing sound digitally- can be worlds better than it was 8 years ago. I recorded digitally back in June. Reason being, the tape studios that were available at the almost last minute date that i needed em (surprise and limited musician availability) n were not to my liking for various reasons, and i went with a engineer who i know forever and like well. His tape machine was not yet hooked up in his new digs, two flights up from where it was resting. Had i found a tape studio i liked that was open, he was willing to come to another studio with me...... we still ended up at his, and with digital.
That said, every engineer i;ve been in contact with since, and the two who worked for me, all agree, analogue recording still sounds better.

Editing in protools is a cinch though, and other things are nice too,

What is sad- there are name mix engioneers trying to guide mixes towards almost being in the box.... done in a little room, with a computer, and a little analogue outboard gear to take it sorta outa the box......... i;ve heard the results on someone's well recorded project - it's sad...Why? engineers are doing this so they can grab jobs... and still make a good buck, keep the studio cost down..... Noone with a brain and good ears should fall for it- there are good rooms available with great consoles.. IF youu start out with a good recording, well done, etc etc, mixing almost in the box is criminal. A box will never sound like a great board. And you need those nice rooms to hear......

So, the pitfalls of digital are still everywhere.

ideal situation, if you have a complicated session, record analogue, edit and mix digitally, and mix back to tape. But, digital recording can be world's better than it was......and mastering with one of the great mastering engineers and mastering off a good info file or disc can also yield great results. But. tape is tape, and sounds best, and the great engineers I know personally all agree.


Entered at Mon Aug 19 19:39:29 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: ANOTHER SELF PORTRAIT

Here in the U.S. NPR is also streaming highlights from ANOTHER SELF PORTRAIT, including the BT Minstrel Boy and IoW Highway 61.


Entered at Mon Aug 19 19:25:15 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: ANOTHER SELF PORTRAIT

Sorry but you need a European e-mail address to catch some tracks from ANOTHER SELF PORTRAIT streaming here:

http://www.rtbf.be/classic21/article_bob-dylan-another-self-portrait-en-streaming?id=8068347

You can hear the Basement "Minstrel Boy" and the IoW "Highway 61 Revisited" (or not, as the case may be). Sorry!


Entered at Mon Aug 19 16:13:11 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Missed that one … do add it on the Comments!


Entered at Mon Aug 19 15:41:27 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Ryland

Ry Cooder also played the spine-tingling slide guitar on "Sister Morphine" with the Rolling Stones on "Sticky Fingers."


Entered at Mon Aug 19 10:16:50 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Riverdance

I just spent ten minutes googling to no avail, but years ago Private Eye (I think) had a great Riverdance cartoon. It was entitled "Consternation at the School of Irish Dancing". In the background you could see a line of step dancers and at the front, some people with shocked expressions were examining a dusty old book they'd picked up from behind the furniture. The title was "Volume 2: Arm Movements."

I saw "Riverdance" early on in its long run, and thoroughly enjoyed the evening … Brian Kennedy left Van Morrison's backing group to sing on the shows. I also saw Lord of The Dance, but after that, you wouldn't want to see a third. It's a bit relentless.

Ry Cooder on Toppermost today … it's a long article too (by me). It was a really hard one to do. There was just so much of it and it was so diverse, and I sat there looking at (e.g.) the "Johnny Handsome" OST album, unable to remember it and thinking, "Is there a hidden gem on here?" Suggestions for better choices or an alternative ten? Post them over there.


Entered at Mon Aug 19 09:07:16 CEST 2013 from (31.53.17.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Bill M, Jon

I hope not, Bill M.

Jon. Thanks. Really looking forward to it.


Entered at Mon Aug 19 05:33:06 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

I hate to be the bearer of this news, but Michael Flatley--the lad who created, choreographed, and starred in Riverdance--is a Chicagoan. A South-Sider, in fact.


Entered at Mon Aug 19 03:43:55 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.85)

Posted by:

Bill M

Dunc: I have an irrational fear that the Irish TLW will involve step-dancing. A video of Fred Eaglesmith on YouTube has him talking about being a Canadian who travels the world, apologising everywhere he goes for Celine Dion; he than says he once ran into an Irishman going around the world the other way, apologising for Riverdance.


Entered at Mon Aug 19 01:03:21 CEST 2013 from (208.120.36.230)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: The Last Waltz Glasgow

Dunc, one of the Irish Last Waltz musicians you'll see will be Hank Wedel, a regular contributor to this guestbook back a ways. Hope you have a great time!


Entered at Sun Aug 18 23:11:53 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Subject: Van and Dylan

Sorry about that. I should have thought. Not unexpectedly, the quality of the YouTube clip is not as good as on the BBC's own site but it is the same - also less the subtitles, of course.


Entered at Sun Aug 18 22:58:15 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Found it on YouTube

I believe this is it. Different location.


Entered at Sun Aug 18 22:51:27 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ian's clip

I'm afraid it won't play here in Canada. The U.K. has become like the U.S. Lots of restrictions. Too bad, I would have liked to see it.


Entered at Sun Aug 18 22:42:56 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: Van and Dylan playing "Foreign Windows" video clip

Mention of The Last Waltz to Van to Van and Dylan to this clip:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/72c536dc-7137-4477-a521-567eeb840fa8

I hope it's new to somebody herein.


Entered at Sun Aug 18 12:41:35 CEST 2013 from (31.53.17.84)

Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: The Last Waltz Glasgow

Was up in Glasgow's Merchant City on Thursday when I was surprised to see a 'Last Waltz' poster.

A group of musicians fronm Ireland, including musicians representing the special guests and a horn section are going to perform 'The Last Waltz' for two nights at the Pavillion Theatre in Glasgow in September.

Looking forward to it enormously.


Entered at Sun Aug 18 10:15:43 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Over at Toppermost, recent "days" (it's an artist a day) are Simone Felice (linked), then Rick James today, and Gene Austin (who I knew nothing about) on Friday. It's very eclectic over there, and Merric (who runs it) is still looking for new contributors. Do add any thoughts.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 19:56:49 CEST 2013 from (75.164.93.17)

Posted by:

Raincheck

Location: The Great American West

Subject: Out in the Woods

Little Brother asked about the chant at the end of Leon Russell's Out in the Woods. He explains it on his live album Leon Live! It is Zulu. Leon had some friends from Africa there during the session, and asked for them to sing about being lost in the woods in Zulu. They said "Zulus don't get lost in the woods, there's no way to say that" Of course, leon doesn't mention that the reason that Zulus don't get lost in the woods is that don't have any. Bit he goes on to say that they are singing about "a man gone crazy and a man that's lost in the bush." Phonetically it something like Moto bu tango a moto tu kala, moto bu tango unglala sh tee. As Leon says, "ain't that pretty?"


Entered at Sat Aug 17 19:09:25 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Ian

Thanks for all the links I especially the Huff Post one.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 17:53:22 CEST 2013 from (223.255.230.77)

Posted by:

denni

Location: banten
Web: My link

love this song so much.. Tears of Rage


Entered at Sat Aug 17 13:50:50 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: "Bearded Men In My Life /The Band"

The writer wrote a Dylan piece recently and, in checking her out, I came across this piece about "The Weight".

You folks have probably seen it already but, in case not, here it is:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anne-margaret-daniel/songs-that-matter-the-ban_b_3592027.html


Entered at Sat Aug 17 09:01:01 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan/Band 1974 tour videotape

I don't collect audience video but there has been precious little from "Tour '74":

http://www.ebay.de/itm/290961160306

Twenty-four minutes from almost 40 years ago but only one complete song, unfortunately, albeit with 10 "partials". The "commentary" from the video-taper may also detract from enjoyment (especially if it's in German) but this is a rarity, nevertheless.

Picture quality in the thumbnails doesn't look great but I guess a bootlegger or a rich fan may go for it.

Actually, I wouldn't be surrpised if Dylan's own people try to secure it. When "No Direction Home" did so well, there were rumours of talks about a follow-up between the "American Masters" people (or whoever did the USA broadcast) and Dylan's office but the problem was that there was so little footage for the 1967 - 1974 period. I'm not suggesting that this footage would change that (the Rolling Thunder period is a more likely subject) but Dylan's people do like to tuck "stuff" away for future use.

As an example, some years ago, an on-line magazine ran a competition with the help of Dylan's office and it involved dating (by year) some photos or brief videoclips (the latter, I think, but I can't quite remember). One of them was from some home video footage, in colour, of Dylan shot in Woodstock around 1967-68. He had on a brown jacket and was holding a large magnifying glass. There may be similar clips, from the same period, of Band members for all we know.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 04:08:41 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.85)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Pepote Rouge

If it's really Peyote Rouge, that would be Red Buttons, which takes back to the Borscht Belt in the Catskills.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 02:46:23 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT and LvdB

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: perseveration; my apologies

I thought I blew it trying to send my 'Bernie' e-mail, so I wrote again. Sorry for the pseudo duplication.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 02:35:07 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT and LvdB

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Bernie

John: I just e-mailed Bernie yesterday to find out if he had been in Victoria. He didn't come this time. I was at Ditch records in Victoria 2 days ago . They don't have the DVD... sold out. I'll get it soon too. With Bernie's stamp on it and Joel Goldberg producing, I'm sure it will be something special.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 02:32:02 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT and LvdB

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Bernie

I periodically e-mail communicate with Bernie, John. I just did that yesterday and he responded. He didn't come to Victoria this time. I too will get the DVD when I can. At Ditch in Victoria, it was sold out.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 01:02:15 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ian W

As always, thank you.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 00:42:23 CEST 2013 from (80.3.71.222)

Posted by:

Ian Woodward

Web: My link

Subject: Radio documentary about Dylan and the Hawks at Manchester in 1966

I don't know if any of you heard this documentary at the time but, in case not, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axvnCEQow0s&feature=player_embedded

It is centred on the "Judas!" shout, as I recall.


Entered at Sat Aug 17 00:22:06 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I think the "pepote" to "peyote" shift is a strong possibility, David. If he was reading Von Daniken, he was reading Castaneda, I'm sure. But that's all Arizona, New Mexico, northern Mexico … the South-West cultures. Can you enlighten us on where the Plains tribes like the Sioux got in on the act?


Entered at Fri Aug 16 22:13:18 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Land of a 1000 Dancers

Cannibal & The Headhunters. What memories. Lloyd Thaxton! WOW! Song written by Chris Kenner and one Antoine Domino.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 22:08:20 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Cockburn

JT, I emailed Bernie today and the DVD has been out for a couple of weeks now. Joel was right man for the job. Must pick it up.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 21:55:30 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Band Fashion

Sadavid's last post reminded me of something my wife and I have discussed over many years-Band fashion.To this day I favor the many looks(sans hats) worn by Band members.Sports coats,button down shirts,buttoning the top button of the shirt,black boots or woodsy type boots,the beard that remains untrimmed on top(yup,still got that,although its white now!),flannel shirts(ok,you got me-a little Neil Young never leaves me!),the sweaters,blue or black jeans(no crazy ass Rick or Richard pants-not enough confidence to pull that off),and in honor of Rick and Richard I have kept the odd looking mismatched items that are essential to the "look".BTW,the glasses-I've always kept them Robbie round(early years, with a definite Lennon influence).Much has certainly slipped my mind for the moment,but there's lots more.Funny how,when I look carefully,so many of my influences are Band related.On and off over many years,Woodstock has been and remains a second home.I almost hear the songs in the air when I'm there.But,the fashion-heck,aside from a 20 year suit/tie thing,I still dress that way-to work and to play.Funny how all this music becomes much more than the music alone-kinda creeps inside of you and becomes a part of your very essence.At least that's been my experience.I'm curious if this seeps into your lives beyond the music as well.Each individual member had and has their own style,and some changed with age.Garth is in his black hat and clothing and RR has gone to a lot of black too-with age it hides weight.I've used lot more black with age and I'm not overweight(most of the time),but by now it is self evident that I'm a shameless copycat!


Entered at Fri Aug 16 21:55:48 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Na na na na na... etc You gotta know how to

John D: I'm sure you remember the original version played on Lloyd Thaxton of 'Land of 1000 dances' by Cannonball and the Headhunters. It was sublime for those days. Thanks for reminding me, y'all.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 20:13:27 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: 'Your Song' thru the years

A fun mash-up video of Band fan Elton John reprising his signature tune.

And a handy benchmark for anyone tempted to comment on JRR's scarf or Richard's sport coat at The Last Waltz . . . .


Entered at Fri Aug 16 20:12:57 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: I Forgot to Remember to Forget

On this day 36 years ago Elvis Presley left this building of ours.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 17:43:13 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

And then a bit later there was the lovely "Bowling Green".


Entered at Fri Aug 16 17:40:21 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

That period of the Everly Brothers yielded three of their best singles … The Price of Love, The Ferris Wheel and Gone, Gone, Gone … all bigger hits in Britain.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 17:30:39 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

John D: Speaking of the British Invasion, more recently Robert Plant & Alison Krauss covered "Gone, Gone, Gone."


Entered at Fri Aug 16 17:08:31 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: David P's Post

Gone Gone Gone by the Everly Brothers is still one of my favorites; from them for that time. Recorded during the British Invasion period and it shows. Till I Kissed you; from the early days was on the top of my list. Also Lulu did an incredible job on Shout. Had that Brenda Lee feel. I believe I bought it on the Parrot label here in Canada.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 17:01:17 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Who Do You Love

This morning I noticed that the Ronnie Hawkins & The Hawks version of "Who Do You Love" is included on a new CD compilation entitled "Twist & Shot" at Starbucks. The other featured tracks are:

LET HER DANCE -- The Bobby Fuller Four, TWIST AND SHOUT -- The Isley Brothers, DANCE OF LOVE -- Charlie Rich, GONE, GONE, GONE -- The Everly Brothers, I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY (FOR SEEING WHAT YOU DO) -- Ike & Tina Turner, MEAN WOMAN BLUES -- Roy Orbison, SHAKIN' ALL OVER -- Johnny Kidd & the Pirates, BRANDED -- Link Wray and His Ray Men, SHE'S ABOUT A MOVER -- Sir Douglas Quintet, PEPPERMINT TWIST -- The King Curtis Combo, SOULFUL DRESS -- Sugar Pie DeSanto, FARMER JOHN -- The Premiers, SHOUT -- Lulu and the Luvvers, DEVIL WITH A BLUE DRESS ON / GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY Medley -- Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels, LAND OF 1,000 DANCES -- Wilson Pickett


Entered at Fri Aug 16 16:37:14 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Well done. There's also "The Old Laughing Lady" on Neil Young's first solo LP, complete with Native chanting of the sort that found its way to Robbie's Native Americans and Redboy projects. Could be Sioux for all I know.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 16:17:48 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Pepote Rouge

"She had a vision
And now she holds the key"

Following Native American references, if you change that second "p" to "y" you have peyote. In the Sioux legend of "How Grandfather Peyote Came to the People", the legend of the lady on the mountain becomes an old woman atop a pyramid mesa on a vision quest seeking the sacred herb. (see link)

Is this a far-fetched analysis of "Pepote Rouge"? Well, later Robbie does record "Peyote Healing" on "Contact from the Underworld of Red Boy", with its Lakota chant from one of the Sioux tribes of the Great Plains of North America. So, is it mega, rather than mecca, plain?


Entered at Fri Aug 16 15:35:25 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for the "Pepote Rouge" post / link. I'd thought that "pepote" must be a word, but apparently not, or at least not something that's made the English dictionary. Aside from the reference to the "Mecca plain", the references sound Native American to me - female gods, people being fashioned out of clay and all that. However, if you do pursue the Middle East line of thinking, if you go east from Mecca in a car you very quickly find yourself driving on a very impressively engineered road up a very steep, very high escarpment - at the top of which is the relatively lovely small city of Taif, which has trees, a brook and butterflies, all things that are scarce on the plain below. The history of the old man of the (different) mountain and the assassins is told well in an interesting and short book by Bernard Lewis, "The Assassins: A Radical Sect in Islam". Still, I'm inclined towards the thought of Robbie drawing on his Mohawk heritage. Another, disconnected, thought: the goddess at the coast (presumably in the water), could be related to the female 'maker' that Richard was singing about in "The Shape I'm In", the one I've previously tied to the maker goddess "down below the ocean" on Donovan's "Atlantis".


Entered at Fri Aug 16 14:13:12 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Saga of Pepote Rouge

The linked article contains a little of the discussion on the lyrics. They're definitely not right as listed, and hilariously wrong on the Toshiba-EMI remaster in its card sleeve. My guess is in the article.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 14:03:36 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Joel Goldberg

JT writes about Joel Goldberg putting together the new Cockburn DVD. I interviewed Joel; after he did a similar project; with the Downchild Blues Band. Wonderful guy great filmmaker.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 07:23:02 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Considered one of the best Dylan boots. If you liked Tangled Up in Blue from a few weeks ago, you'll love this.


Entered at Fri Aug 16 00:26:54 CEST 2013 from (216.193.165.93)

Posted by:

Little Brøther

Location: The Guestbook Archives

Subject: Questionable "Pepote Rouge" lyric

I was checking the lyrics posted here for "The Saga of Pepote Rouge" to "verify" this verse (pasted from the Lyrics page):

Now disbelief and mass confusion

Spreading wild across the land

You can call it love or call it wisdom

To be not savin' a drowning man.

___________________

I vaguely remember lots of argument and discussion about that last line-- probably still somewhere in the Guestbook Archives. ;)

To me, that last line always sounded more like "But do you not save a drowning man?"

I think that some of the confusion arises because the context doesn't clear up the ambiguity.

Anyway, FWIW, I think the line as shown is both awkwardly constructed and logically confusing.

All of THAT is a setup for a desperate request: Sebastian, if you ever see this post, will you kindly check with your dad to get an authoritative ruling on this question? ;)

PS: If this miraculously works out, my next quest will be to find out what the background chorus is singing in Leon Russell's "Out in the Woods".


Entered at Fri Aug 16 00:08:28 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Seriously

And among so many quotes, I admire this one. "Although I want to be taken seriously, some people take it too far and start investing my insights with greater power than they ought to. At that point, you have to chuckle. It's great for other people to take you seriously, but you'd better not be guilty of doing it to yourself." (1994 - Bruce Cockburn is said to have said this).


Entered at Fri Aug 16 00:05:50 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: 'Punkish'

Cockburn in late 80s and early 90s (Big Circumstance, Dart To the Heart) showed a different face. Reminds me a lot of the evolution of Blind Boy Grunt in the early 60s. 'Tie Me To The Crossroads When I Die'is an example. He did a real rocker for his first encore yesterday. He can do it all!


Entered at Thu Aug 15 23:15:35 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Pacing The Cage Bruce Cockburn

The DVD 'Pacing The Cage' by Joel Goldberg and Bernie Finklestein (manager for all these years) is available and gives insight into this multifaceted performer. I look forward to seeing it. Bruce Cockburn now lives in San Francisco with his wife and child and we are lucky that he continues to tour and share his gifts with us.


Entered at Thu Aug 15 21:05:18 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Don't Do It

Hoping someone can save me a lot of time. Someone posted a few weeks back a link to The Band doing a version of Don't Do it, I hadn't heard before. Can anyone remember and If so show the link? Thanks


Entered at Thu Aug 15 20:48:05 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Allan Lanier

We haven't been discussing the Blue Oyster Cult all that much lately. The Cult's Allan Lanier died yesterday. I believe he does the vocals on the linked song from Agents of Fortune. You know I used to have their follow up album as well, Spectres I think it was.


Entered at Thu Aug 15 20:02:49 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Bruce Cockburn

Mr. Cockburn also shines on the 2-CD compilation "Slice O Life / Live Solo", as the performances are finely pared down to just his expressive voice and guitar.


Entered at Thu Aug 15 18:37:00 CEST 2013 from (99.52.71.217)

Posted by:

Calvin

I always felt Cockburn came off much better live. his studio albums seemed too arranged, too busy. When he is up n the stage with. 2 or 3 other musicians he shines.


Entered at Thu Aug 15 17:55:19 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.82)

Posted by:

Bill M

JT: Earlier today I was listening to Bruce Cockburn's "Tie Me To The Crossroads When I Die", as interpreted by BARK, with the same Gary Craig on drums. Phenomenal punkish / early Who-ish energy. On the orginal album, as opposed to the best-of, it comes after their exceptionally Bandish, complete with Weighty ending,"Willie's Diamónd Joe". And then there's "The Song On The Radio" earlier on the album: "The red, white and blue / It's a scar and a tattoo / And everbody knows / that old song on the radio". I figure it could have been TNTDODD.


Entered at Thu Aug 15 16:38:01 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Jennie Scheinman

I first became aware of the talented Ms. Scheinman through her playing on guitarist Bill Frisell's "All We Are Saying" tribute to John Lennon.


Entered at Thu Aug 15 16:14:31 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT and LvdB

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Bruce Cockburn at Butchart Gardens Aug 14

BRUCE COCKBURN at Butchart Gardens in Victoria BC last night was superb. With a drummer (Gary Craig) and a jazz violinist herself of some repute (and excellent - Jennie Scheinman), he laid down some 'greatest hits' coupled with many lesser known songs with prestige and vigour. His guitar is as it always has been, magical. The light rain stopped as he hit the stage and mainly stayed away until he was done. He graciously came down with Jenny to converse with those who chose to stay and signed cds and the recent DVD. He is truly a Canadian treasure and remains at the foundation of what is best in musical art. We thoroughly enjoyed the evening. Catch him if you can. A tour in Germany later this year.


Entered at Thu Aug 15 15:42:29 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Smiley Face

I composed my last post; on my iPad; where you can insert a smiley face. Noticed it doesn't show up here; on my PC.


Entered at Thu Aug 15 14:22:48 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch Changes

Sorry Jan. after your t-t-t-t testing, I thought we were doing a David Bowie sing-a-long. 😃


Entered at Thu Aug 15 09:32:24 CEST 2013 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

t-t-t-t-testing


Entered at Wed Aug 14 16:09:52 CEST 2013 from (83.249.143.62)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Mexican war. Webmaster's vocabulary

Indeed Dlew, indeed. And what's your theory on relation between Dylan's 'Titanic' and ABBA's 'SOS'?

If this vocabulary continues webmaster will be banned from 'Allsang på grensen' ;-)


Entered at Wed Aug 14 04:45:43 CEST 2013 from (68.107.194.239)

Posted by:

Calvin

Word of Mouth is a much better album than history has made it out to be, its at that point when they stopped being "Big" and right before they started to really dry up artistically.

While Summer's Gone made my list, I seriously considered Going Solo as well. And while they arent on my short list Missing Persons, Massive Reductions, Living on a Thin Line and Do It Again are all great Kinks Kuts.

No Problem Here Kevin, I often feel the same way.


Entered at Wed Aug 14 03:07:13 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Calvin: Thank you. Interesting in that amoung others "Misfits"and "Summers Gone" also make my list.........some I would think might have Misfits, I wasn't sure anyone else would have Summer Gone......a great underrated song..........I'll post my list on Toppermost later in the week..................as to the misunderstanding of earlier, I admit to being a bit sensitive in that area as it is the one element of being a Band fan that causes me to regularly consider just getting off the bus.........every time something happens....be it a death, an Eric Clapton appearance, an appreciation of a song like The Weight.......what should be a graceful period of reflection or a celebration of recognition for a great and usually unheralded band is almost always tarnished/diminished by haters that take every opportunity to insult RR and it bothers me a great deal......not because it affects my life in any way but just because it is wrong and improper on so many levels.


Entered at Wed Aug 14 02:35:48 CEST 2013 from (68.107.194.239)

Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Top 10 Kinks Songs

For Me, in No Particular Order, on the evening of August 13th 2013, Nothin' in the World Can Stop Me Worryin' 'Bout That Girl, Set Me Free, Do You Remember Walter, Days, Strangers, Misfits, Around The Dial, State of Confusion and Summer's Gone. I started with 21 songs-and really Waterloo Sunset and Something Better Beginning could have easily made it-But as I have every Album they released stateside-with all the remaster never released cuts-there are so many songs-and it could easily change.


Entered at Wed Aug 14 02:04:37 CEST 2013 from (174.54.185.44)

Posted by:

Kevin from Northeast PA

Subject: Wilco / Business

Jeff A. - Thanks for that Wilco link. Very interesting.


Entered at Wed Aug 14 01:08:41 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Celluloid Heroes

I am a Kinks adherent: Celluloid Heroes and Come Dancing are 2 of my favourites, but I also like the early stuff. Their evolution was impressive. I do like Victoria and find myself singing it every time I get on a plane from Toronto and head home (I'm always heading home).


Entered at Tue Aug 13 22:31:22 CEST 2013 from (99.52.71.217)

Posted by:

Calvin

No harm Kevin, the last Time I was an every day poster was probably 2008, so I can't expect people to remember things about me.

Now Peter might remember my love for the Kinks as he was kind enough to help me out with a cd when Ray's label was releasing in the U.K. Weeks before the States. So yes, I'm interested in your top 10. I'd say not a single one of their classics make my top 10. Days pops into my head, Set Me Free. I'll think on it.

I had missed the press conference about the book and he review I read never mentioned it was designed for kids.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 22:14:56 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Kevin J: That is a nice story. No wonder Terry Danko and Jim Atkinson stayed so close for so long - little pre-Hawkins bands around Brantford, in Hawkins' Travelling Medecine Show, in Atkinson Danko and Ford, in Bearfoot, in LA with Rick ...


Entered at Tue Aug 13 21:25:53 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

See Above Link about Rick Danko found on Ex-Rain today. Very nice indeed.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 21:20:55 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Ari: I'm with you that 2,4,6 and 7 should be on the list, even if not in that order. Based on my shockingly limited knowledge of the Kink Kanon I'll replace the others with "I'm Not Like Everybody Else", "See My Friends", "Dedicated Follower Of Fashion", "Well Respected Man" and "Go Dancing".

The idea of "Young Conservatives" appeals to me, but I can't even recall how it goes. It does remind me that I just heard Danny Michel's decade-old remake (reconstruction? - at link) of "Young Americans". I love the Bowie original, but didn't realise how Springsteenlike the wordsmithing was.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 21:00:04 CEST 2013 from (70.208.80.134)

Posted by:

Ari

10 Great Kinks Songs 1) Strangers 2) You Really Got Me 3) Sitting in My Hotel 4) Victoria 5) Supersonic Rocket Ship 6) Waterloo Sunset 7) Lola 8) Acute Schizophroneia Blues 9) Apeman 10) Celluloid Heroes ....many Ive left out....


Entered at Tue Aug 13 20:49:30 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I'm sure Toppermost would be interested in a Kinks ten … the way it works, someone can post 10, then in the comments someine else can say "How about this ten instead?" Or "You missed a couple."


Entered at Tue Aug 13 20:12:58 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Calvin

Calvin: Some months back there was a press conference with RR and Sebastian in which they explained the selection process and with the expectation that this is only the first in what they hope might be several follow-ups, the decision was to focus on the truly iconic and legendary while also giving a nod to some important figures that not all parents would be immediatly aware of ( Louis Jordan, Mayfield,etc. ) in the way they would be with Beatles, Joni Mitchell for example. RR also used his veto power over the objections of his other 3 writers to not have The Band featured in the book....................Funny part of that press conference was one of the questions to Sebastian was how his Dad helped him find his groove into the world of music as a young boy........and Sebastian told of RR going with him to a Run DMC show and also teaching him how to play Zep's "Whole Lotta Love".......that's a guitar lesson I would like to have witnessed!

Anyhow, any misunderstanding there was, you can get back at me soon as I plan on doing a Kinks Top 10......I would think it might surprise some, not intentionally really but just because it will be my 10 favourites.............actually, given my current time restrictions I would be happy to see your 10 if they get there first and then I would just comment with my list.............The great thing about those lists is almost always there are 2 or 3 or more songs that surprises that prompts some follow-up.........where YouTube does come in handy and in such specific cases, a vehicle for good.

JT: I am glad that you did see my message the other day. Lovely thoughts they were from you that I commented on that I guess got caught in the crossfire of the war between Spellcasters and the webmaster.

Dlew: Not sure there is a more perfect illustration of the difference in great rock and great pop...............give the greatest band ever to grace this little thing called rock n roll and perhaps the greatest pop band a subject.......War.........ABBA write Fernando and The Band write TNTDODD


Entered at Tue Aug 13 19:59:42 CEST 2013 from (68.199.209.150)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Web: My link

Subject: Wilco / Business

See the link.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 19:28:20 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

The Band, however, unlike many of their comtemporaries, went against the grain and avoided topical/political references for the most part.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 19:15:08 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

David P: Another War of Northern Aggression in each case.

Dave H: That's an interesting point, and one that I'd never applied to TNTDODD - though I knew that "that old crazy Asian war" was Vietnam even if Kenny Rogers said it was Korea, and the "Carry me, home to Alabam, to Sarah's homemade jam ..." was Vietnam even if the Stampeders said it was Korea or the US Civil War ... So, was Virgil Caine, some poor Vietnamese farmer caught Apocalypse Now, or some poor American conscriptee?


Entered at Tue Aug 13 18:41:01 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Southern Fights

And in Vietnam, as in Korea, the U.S. military fought on the side of the South.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 18:21:08 CEST 2013 from (136.167.102.150)

Posted by:

Dave H

The literal historical setting of TNTDODD is as plain as can be, and the powerful impression that the South made on JRR is equally clear, but the chance that a young rock musician living in the USA could write a song about *any* war in 1969 and not be referring in *some* way to Vietnam is, in my view, pretty slim.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 17:06:59 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: 'Running Red Lights'

Alerting you all to a band from Toronto called appropriately "Running Red Lights". We heard them on CBC driving to work yesterday. They seem to have been around now for several years. Look around on the internet and you can find some of their music. They are on the verge of releasing their first major album. They will do a west coast tour in September after playing next week in Toronto. They will be in Victoria and other Canadian western cities (and then western USA) and if possible we will go to hear them. Sounds are good. Give them a listen.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 16:55:51 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Why Dixie?

A young Canadian, of divided heritage, just turning 16 years old, joins the band of a wild man from Arkansas. He visits the American South for the first time, down to Delta where jazz, blues & country music rose up from the rich, alluvial bottom land, oozing into a gumbo of rock & roll. An outsider, he's taken by the people he meets there and the stories they tell about the South; a place still haunted by effects of a devasting war fought so long ago that still pervades the spirit of those descendents of a vanquished cause.

As he later recounts in an interview, "it was just so new and I was at such a vulnerable age." Many years later, a song, which first began as a melody he fashioned at the piano, inspires him tell a story from that once strange place & time, washing over him like the mighty river that created that land so far from his home to the North.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 15:37:56 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Annie get your gun ..

Peter V: Re the War of 1812, here's a link to "The Battle Of Queenston Heights", an answer record to "The Battle Of New Orleans" that was recorded in the early '60s by a group of CHUM disc jockeys. The song was written by one of the DJs, Garry Ferrier, who hit the charts with two solo records in '65 - "Ringo Deer" (a Beatle-tied Christmas record) and, as Race Marbles, "Like A Dribbling Fram" (a legendary Dylan send-up). Likely some of the guys were still on the scene when our own John D moved to CHUM in the early '70s.

Sticking with the sepia-toned, today's "Globe and Mail" notes that today is the birthday of Annie Oakley, nee Miss Phoebe Ann Moses - a weighty name, no?


Entered at Tue Aug 13 13:30:25 CEST 2013 from (66.61.15.219)

Posted by:

Calvin

You misunderstand me Kevin J-Im as staunch of a "Robbie wrote the songs and the crap he takes because of Levon's book is ridicolous" as there is.

Hardly criticism, but really-if I was going to write a book about musical influences I dont much see the point of including the ones everyone else does/


Entered at Tue Aug 13 13:18:43 CEST 2013 from (101.164.37.146)

Posted by:

dlew919

Subject: TNTDODD

Peter V: I suspect that Robbie's lingering bitterness about not winning Eurovision must have rankled when Swedish upstarts ABBA wrote a song on that very war: the Mexican one - Fernando...


Entered at Tue Aug 13 09:46:18 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Location: The State of Irony

Subject: The Civil War

Many music critics have agreed with Kevin J that a more obscure war could have been chosen as the subject for The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down. I'd add that the Civil War itself lacked originality, with the original and therefore more authentic version being fought between 1642 and 1647 in Britain. The American cover version is better-known and also had a romantic, cavalier losing side, and a more industrialized but morally correct winning side.

There's also a degree of ethnocentricity. As citizens of the world, surely he could have chosen a war with more ethnic variation? The Mexican War perhaps, or the Spanish-American War which embraces not only Cuba but also the Philipines.

Canadian readers might have expected their fellow citizen to have explored the war of 1812 instead, with a more Clearly Canadian setting along the Niagara River perhaps, with the addition of a New Orleans front line for the battle fought there, in which the cowardly British fled through the bushes and the brambles. Perhaps Pierre (let us embrace both languages of Canada) might have been back with his wife in Niagara Falls when he saw Andrew Jackson heading towards the waterfall on the Maid of The Mist.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 09:34:27 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Toppermost Rick Danko

Today's Toppermost is Rick Danko, see link, joining the previous pages on Robbie, Levon, The Band. Do add comments on the site. That's the idea. It's assumed people will disagree with the selection.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 05:03:37 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Oh my....is this where we've arrived at in Band Land - where Robbie and his son write a book for CHILDREN and it is criticized for being too mainstream! .........Next up......TNTDODD is mocked for being about a war that was just too mainstream.............Damn it Robbie, ya should've picked a more obscure one.


Entered at Tue Aug 13 03:08:49 CEST 2013 from (66.61.15.219)

Posted by:

Calvin

So, has anyone got there hands on the Legends and Icons Sebastian and his Dad wrote with two other folks? Seems pretty mainstream to me-I mean when you list 27 influences and the least mainstream is Louis Jordan or Curtis Mayfield you arent exactly plowing untilled ground.

Ill buy it as I purchase anything with the names Helm, Danko, Manual, Hudson or Robertson on it. But has anyone seen it?


Entered at Mon Aug 12 17:57:25 CEST 2013 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

ok, enough is enough. try spell casting *this*, you motherf*****s


Entered at Mon Aug 12 16:45:53 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Traffic

Traffic did cross paths with The Band on the Festival Express tour, as Steve Winwood & company played only one date, Toronto on June 28, 1970. I got to see Traffic earlier that month when they played at Atlanta Stadium. It was a one-day festival called the Cosmic Carnival, which also featured It's A Beatiful Day, Frank Zappa & the Mothers (featuring Flo & Eddie), Mountain and The Allman Brothers Band.


Entered at Mon Aug 12 16:07:55 CEST 2013 from (204.138.59.92)

Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Fresh back from three weeks of soaking up to sun in, get this, England. Hardly any rain at all. Went to a record fair and had a nice lunch with Peter V, exchanged emails with RtO, made it home with my record few record purchases totally intact. For the record, the few records were a '69 rock steady LP by Jamaican Canadian JoJo Bennett (with some newspaper clippings on the back showing that he and his old band, the Fujitives played at Ronnie Hawkins' old Yonge Street club, the Hawk's Nest, and also in a club in Stratford that likely also had something to do with Hawkins), the Edwin Hawkins Singers LP with "Oh Happy Day" (very nice, quite different UK cover), a late '70s comp of people doing Dylan covers (Brian Ferry, Byrds, Baez, Spirit et al), a very early Oscar Peterson EP (on which he perfors "Oscar's Blues" and "Three O'Clock In The Morning", one of my very favourite blues songs), a gospel EP by Rev Kelsey and choir at a church in Wash DC (see link) and a British 45 of Carol King singing "It Might As Well Rain Until September" (another Bobby Vee reference, I'm afraid).

Calvin: Forgot to ask earlier about your new book. About the Kinks?


Entered at Mon Aug 12 07:35:11 CEST 2013 from (68.106.148.202)

Posted by:

Calvin

Nice Article on Traffic Peter-Winwood will be playing in the area in a few months-but I found the tickets for him (37.50-63.50) Rather hard to justify as he is essentially and oldies act now and Ive seen him twice before(Once with the 1994 version of Traffic-Him and Capaldi).

The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is involved as its suppose to be a fundraiser for one of their outreach programs-and when those guys get involved the price always skyrockets.


Entered at Mon Aug 12 02:41:57 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Ameriaustricana

Burrito Brothers cover the Brothers Gibb.


Entered at Sun Aug 11 22:16:35 CEST 2013 from (97.81.222.55)

Posted by:

Jimmy Nelson

Web: My link

Subject: 'Long Black Veil'

Can't believe there's anyone who doesn't love this song.


Entered at Sun Aug 11 18:56:29 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

Right Rev Billy Sol Hargis

Location: Discount House of Worship (now 2 or 3% off everything)

Subject: Spellcasters

I agree with you Peter, those spellcasters give me the creeps. And I don't trust them.


Entered at Sun Aug 11 10:56:15 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Traffic

Today's Toppermost is Traffic, and Rob Millis (Rob the Organ) has contributed a great article on the history of Traffic … I'd say the best thing on Toppermost so far. Do take a look … and do discuss it there.


Entered at Sun Aug 11 10:23:06 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

I suspect it's one poster. It now "appears" to come from Pennsylvania. Why do they persist? What is the point?


Entered at Sun Aug 11 01:42:34 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Mike. Having no recollection of a movie with that title, I went to IMDB. It was titled "Bachelor Knight" in the UK. l


Entered at Sat Aug 10 20:07:40 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: RR

Joan: Robbie Robertson has always been a class act in my view. I have no doubt that he has always comported himself in a sensitive way with consideration to those he cares about and for. The superfluous crap should be ignored. My dad was always supportive of him and from his youth he was a good man.


Entered at Sat Aug 10 19:29:19 CEST 2013 from (74.176.225.239)

Posted by:

Mike C

Web: My link

Subject: You Remind Me of a Movie

The Cary Grant "Hoodoo" bit is from The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer, where his partner in wordplay is (among others) Shirley Temple!


Entered at Sat Aug 10 19:28:03 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Robbie

I think it is a shame that Robbie has been demonized to a point that a sincere and heartfelt comment about his Band mates wife is discounted I'm just sayin'


Entered at Sat Aug 10 18:00:08 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Kevin J: Magic

Kevin J: I didn't dream it. I saw your comment here about my comments regarding my dad and RR but they seem to have disappeared perhaps with JH adjustments? Anyway, your right... thinking about those interactions makes me feel good too.


Entered at Sat Aug 10 17:52:31 CEST 2013 from (90.237.227.135)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: Neil Young

Neil Young canceled his show in Thursday in Gothenburg Sweden only one and a half hour before it was the time. What a disappointment for many of us. Media says that one member in his band was involved in an accident.


Entered at Sat Aug 10 09:50:05 CEST 2013 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

there. now go cast spells somewhere else.


Entered at Sat Aug 10 09:33:55 CEST 2013 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

I need to practice the coding skills a bit more (or get back that young, well-functioning brain I once had)! Made a programming error allowing posts from Nigeria, obviously. Fix is on its way.


Entered at Sat Aug 10 09:12:30 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Diane. Now you say Cary Grant, I can see him doing it.


Entered at Sat Aug 10 07:40:34 CEST 2013 from (24.218.16.94)

Posted by:

Dave H

False witness cast an evil eye

Said I cannot tell a lie

Haints and saints don't bother me

I'm not alone, you see...


Entered at Sat Aug 10 03:42:05 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Location: N.E.

Subject: shooting stars

Stayed up far too late last night with good friends and a great meteor shower. Clear sky and North Atlantic as background. Clouds moved in tonight; can't see nothin.

Find your own link to the Dylan song.


Entered at Sat Aug 10 03:14:47 CEST 2013 from (69.225.86.247)

Posted by:

Diane S.

Subject: Peter V.

Peter, I think the HooDoo routine was something Cary Grant did in one of his movies. I can't remember which one.


Entered at Fri Aug 9 22:07:36 CEST 2013 from (80.195.152.110)

Posted by:

Bill M

One of LaVern Baker's many great numbers, in addition to "Saved", was "Voodoo Me". And then there were the two great odd '80s bands, Deja Voodoo and Wall of Voodoo.


Entered at Fri Aug 9 22:04:27 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

You remind me of a man.

What man?

The man with a power.

What power?

The power of Hoodoo.

Hoodoo?

You do.

What?

Remind me of a man …

The Marx Brothers?


Entered at Fri Aug 9 21:34:26 CEST 2013 from (63.88.115.195)

Posted by:

carmen

Location: PA

Subject: New Fans

I was at a party with a bunch of my old college buddies. One of my buddies daughters HS friends were all there. Party was getting late and we were searching Pandora for songs to keep us going. Most people were looking for more of the dance type music for the party. A hear a HS kid say put on the Band Radio. I said who said that and this young kid raises his had. I asked who else are Band fans, and about 4 HS age kids raised their hand. I walk out to my car and grab whatever Band and a few RR cds and hand them out to the young fans. I was happy to see that this music is still important to a new generation.


Entered at Fri Aug 9 21:33:26 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: hoodoo that voodoo?

Good catch Jon, and don't forget the hoodoo.

Dr. John been hoodoo'd (hoodooed?), Fogerty listened to his hound dog chasing one down on the bayou, and of course Rompin' sent out a worldwide one (now that would be a revelation!) after his gal to get her home by deadline . . . .


Entered at Fri Aug 9 20:54:12 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

There's voodoo music all over the world...


Entered at Fri Aug 9 20:41:29 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Cole Porter

Tell me, why should it be you have the power to hypnotize me?

Let me live 'neath your spell,

Do do that voodoo

that you do so well.

For you do something to me

that nobody else could do!

You do something to me,



Entered at Fri Aug 9 20:27:52 CEST 2013 from (24.91.186.44)

Posted by:

Quincy Gerry

Location: The third row

Subject: Happy Birthday

To the elder Band Man ,, Happy Birthday


Entered at Fri Aug 9 20:06:37 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Voodo

Is it voodoo chile or child? Long been a point of confusion.Also,Deja Voodoo(Government Mule) is a fine album? Any other album or song titles with voodoo in it? With the IP ban will we ever get the answers?


Entered at Fri Aug 9 19:39:54 CEST 2013 from (85.255.44.134)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: That Voodoo stuff don´t do nothing for me

Cleaned out the spellcaster posts and follow-ups. Also programmed a massive block of domains/IPs from AfriNIC -- let´s see if it works. If any African Band fans are affected by this, then please let us know and we´ll let you in through the back door.


Entered at Fri Aug 9 15:12:42 CEST 2013 from (131.137.35.83)

Posted by:

sadavid

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan "Pretty Saro" video

It sure has that _Self Portrait_ sound and feel. Sweet.


Entered at Fri Aug 9 08:15:46 CEST 2013 from (70.66.26.21)

Posted by:

Hilary Genner

Dear Band , so glad you were in my life at 15, and still at 65- your work - fabulous ! Thank You , Hil.


Entered at Fri Aug 9 04:31:23 CEST 2013 from (50.100.178.53)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Robbie

Kevin: That is a heartfelt and sincere message from RR regarding his friends and Elizabeth. In the 60s, my dad came home from the Concord more than once and noted specifically that there was a lovely kid in the band Levon and the Hawks who was smart and kind and who he really liked for the way he interacted with him.. Robbie Robertson was that kid. He really liked Robbie and clearly his character remains solid.


Entered at Fri Aug 9 03:16:29 CEST 2013 from (24.114.89.45)

Posted by:

Kevin J

From Robbie Robertson's Facebook page.......a very nice message:

RIP Elizabeth Danko

"Elizabeth and Rick were true partners--in life. They balanced each other and she was dedicated to taking care of Rick the very best she could. In the last years I saw Rick up in Woodstock. I'd be there mixing a new record and he would say, ' Can you play some of your new songs for Elizabeth? ' I loved playing my new music for Elizabeth.... she knew what I was reaching for. Miss my old friends. Bless her soul. Thoughts and prayers from our family to hers. I hope she'll be taking care of Rick once again." - Robbie

Belated best wishes to Peter and family on the birth and life of a grandson.

Welcome back Jeff.........Billy is in Mongolia no doubt......


Entered at Thu Aug 8 20:38:18 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Tomorrow Never Knows

At this point in time forty-seven years ago, major changes affecting The Hawks were taking place. Following the July 29, 1966 motorcycle "incident" Dylan was holed-up in Woodstock and plans for resuming touring with The Hawks (+Mickey Jones) were soon cancelled. Shortly afterwards, Robbie would move to Woodstock to help assist Dylan and Howard Alk in editing D.A. Pennebaker's Eat the Document tour footage, which would eventually be rejected by ABC-TV. Rick and Richard were also travelling back & forth to Woodstock to help with the project and in February 1967 they rented the Big Pink house in West Saugerties, where they were joined by Garth. Sometime between the spring and the beginning of summer they would begin their informal music sessions with Dylan in the basement at Big Pink and occasionally at Dylan's Byrdcliffe house.

Meanwhile, across the pond, the Beatles released "Revolver" forty-seven years ago this week, as they prepared to embark on a U.S. tour, which would prove to be their last.

Off the road and further experimenting in the studio, the Beatles would release "Sgt. Pepper" on June 1, 1967. Meanwhile, The Hawks, after woodshedding in Woodstock, would be rejoined by Levon and release "Music From Big Pink" one year & one month after "Sgt. Pepper."


Entered at Thu Aug 8 19:29:07 CEST 2013 from (70.30.114.231)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Loretta

Now, dammit Lars, you're really gonna confuse Norm!


Entered at Thu Aug 8 18:52:59 CEST 2013 from (98.15.190.173)

Posted by:

Lars

Location: Del Rio, TX

Subject: birthdays and personal info

Thanks for that kind birthday wish, Mikey. Actually, yesterday was not my birthday. Actually, everything I put on FB is a lie. I don't trust FB and I would never want them to know any real facts about me...but I thank you for your kind wishes.

My real name is Alan David Luplow and I live about 20 miles from Pine Bush, NY. My friends all call me Loretta.


Entered at Thu Aug 8 18:47:39 CEST 2013 from (95.198.15.187)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

Subject: It's All Happening At The Zoo

Joan and John D, I saw two monkeys at Copenhagen Zoo yesterday. The big one said to the little one:"What?! Aren't you on Facebook?! Every monkey is on Facebook."


Entered at Thu Aug 8 18:45:41 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Who Do The Hoodoo?

As Muddy Waters once sang, we don't need no stinking spellcasters because:

"I got a black cat bone
I got a mojo too
I got the Johnny Conqueroo
I'm gonna mess with you."


Entered at Thu Aug 8 17:55:14 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

I sure wish we hadn't even mentioned Bobby Vee here. Now we get all these spellcaster / "bring my baby back to me" people.


Entered at Thu Aug 8 13:39:15 CEST 2013 from (67.84.79.171)

Posted by:

Jeff A.

Subject: Musical hot flashes and cold egg creams.

anyone here have the scoop on the emerging trend of artists providing music on USB flash drives.... me, i think a key attraction is you can run a narrow chain through one end of em, wear em round your neck like musical dog tags.......

anyone have a good egg cream lately?


Entered at Thu Aug 8 01:23:47 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Thank you Joan

You're right Joan. We are not all on Facebook. Thank you so much.


Entered at Wed Aug 7 21:38:58 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan

For those not on FB.thank you Peter Stone Brown


Entered at Wed Aug 7 17:48:04 CEST 2013 from (70.30.114.231)

Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Me and Norm want to wish Lars a happy birthday today. Many happy returns, whatever the hell that means.


Entered at Wed Aug 7 17:19:09 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks, Calvin. Do post that on Toppermost … personally, I find "Burgers" a great Hot Tuna album, though the first is just as popular here, but that's live. I'm not sure that Burgers is typical though.


Entered at Wed Aug 7 14:35:33 CEST 2013 from (24.252.149.201)

Posted by:

Calvin

Congrats Peter.

For whatever reason I've always felt Hot Tuna is a group that never captured themselves in the recording studio. Where I rarely find myself pulling out one of their albums I will see Jorma and Jack whenever they pass through town. Which as I live about 3.5 hours north of the Fur Peace Ranch is quite often.


Entered at Wed Aug 7 01:22:27 CEST 2013 from (24.108.242.146)

Posted by:

Rockin Chair

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: They shoulda named him...........

Well congratulations Peter.....Rafferty's ok I guess.....sounds like he should be in Scotland Yard!

But gawd damn it......they shoulda named the other kid Ralf! not George. Didn't you ever see the movie "King Ralf". Now that was great.........shoulda been Ralf.

Any way that's wonderful. You'll have a lot of fun. I spent Monday afternoon, our holiday over here.....I fell asleep on the couch in the family room, watching cartoons with Liam, (he's not quite two). He was nestled up on my chest also sleeping. You gotta keep 'em close.


Entered at Wed Aug 7 00:23:57 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

The Viney line proceeds...


Entered at Wed Aug 7 00:20:52 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Many thanks to all. His name is Rafferty, and he looks like he can do the name justice. His older sister (two and a half) was asleep when we saw him at 3.15, but was on the phone by 8.15 with "I got a boy. He's out now"


Entered at Tue Aug 6 23:11:06 CEST 2013 from (174.116.172.227)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Toronto and Victoria intermittently

Subject: Family matters

My congratulations to you too,Peter. I'm in TO. Going to visit my grandchildren this evening. I need a dose of that whenever I'm in Toronto.


Entered at Tue Aug 6 22:58:54 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Peter V-Grandson

Very beautiful.Wishing you & yours,and the grandson only the best.


Entered at Tue Aug 6 21:47:21 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Congratulations Peter!

A new Grandchild! Doesn't get much better than that. Congratulations again Peter!


Entered at Tue Aug 6 21:16:49 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Peter: The Civil Wars also previously had a deal with Sony/Columbia for the European distribution of an expanded edition of "Barton Hollow."


Entered at Tue Aug 6 21:06:40 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Peter V

Congratulations Peter What a lovely thing. A new grandchild!! I guess there will be many more sleepless nights for the parents for a while. :-)


Entered at Tue Aug 6 20:46:30 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: The Civil Wars

British copies of both Civil Wars CDs and the 7" single are typical "triple" logo jobs:

SONY then Columbia then Sensibility. I wouldn't call Sensibility a label so much as a "production entity" as most stuff nowadays is at least triple logo:

CONGLOMERATE NAME … "LABEl NAME" … "ARTIST'S LABEL NAME."

I would guess Sensibility license masters to Columbia, who invested a lot in promotion so would expect the next one too.


Entered at Tue Aug 6 19:59:46 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: I'm Just A Country Boy

I found the studio credits for Sam Cooke's second version of the song and it includes some interesting names.

Songs: I'm Just A Country Boy, Sugar Dumpling
Date: Sept. 11, 1963
Studio: RCA Hollywood
Producers: Sam Cooke with Al Schmitt
Engineer: Bones Howe

Musicians: James Bond (acoustic bass), Russell Bridges a/k/a Leon Russell (piano), Glen Campbell (guitar), Clifton White (Mr. Cooke's longtime guitarist), Earl Palmer (drums), Ray Pohlman (electric bass), plus 14-piece string section
Background Vocals: Betty Baker, Jackie Ward, Robert Tebow, Doreen Trydeen & Jack Halloran
Arranged and Conducted By: Jimmie Haskell, who at the time was best known for his work with Ricky Nelson


Entered at Tue Aug 6 18:47:49 CEST 2013 from (136.167.102.150)

Posted by:

Dave H

Congratulations, Peter!


Entered at Tue Aug 6 18:42:22 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

It appears that Harry Belafonte also recorded two versions of "I'm Just A Country Boy", first as a B-side on a single in 1954 and later on the 1966 LP "In My Quiet Room." Sam Cooke no doubt learned the song from Mr. Belafonte's first version.


Entered at Tue Aug 6 16:34:31 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Congratulations Peter.

Yes JQ I believe Harry Belafonte first recorded "I'm Just A Country Boy." Sam Cooke recorded two versions of the song. The early version was included on his 1960 "Swing Low" album.

The Civil Wars previously recorded on the Sensibility Music label, founded by Joy Williams and her manager husband Nate Yetton. After completing their new album in late January, they began shopping it around to major labels and Columbia picked it up.


Entered at Tue Aug 6 11:50:10 CEST 2013 from (96.20.158.81)

Posted by:

Landmark

Location: Montreal

Congratulations Peter!


Entered at Tue Aug 6 10:25:27 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Only the articles on songs are mine. All credit for the site and comprehensive library is the webmaster, founder and designer, Jan Hoiberg.

Rob Millis (Rob The Organ) did the article and selection of ten for today's Toppermost (linked). It's on Hot Tuna, and Rob's essay is the best introduction to Hot tuna I've read.

The Sam Cooke "I'm Just A Country Boy" is on The Change Is Gonna Come LP, and given the exquisite vocals, I would guess it was the important one for Richard. The C&W was a big hit, but is a bar room version in comparison. I haven't heard the Belafonte, which I can imagine is also beautifully phrased and sung, but as The Band did Change Is Gonna Come and attempted Bring It On Home, Sam Cooke should be the version.

And …I'm here after an almost entirely sleepless night, my new grandson was born at 2.35 a.m. He was born at home, which is only half a mile away and we saw him at 3.15.


Entered at Tue Aug 6 06:13:23 CEST 2013 from (63.142.158.9)

Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Country Boy

Was it not Harry Belafonte that sang it originally?


Entered at Tue Aug 6 04:42:29 CEST 2013 from (69.114.185.153)

Posted by:

Jonathan Leal

Location: Bklyn, NY

Subject: appreciation

I want to thank Peter Viney for this fabulous resource. I've been lost in the Library for days. What a treasure trove of gorgeous chords and thoughtful guitar friendly analysis. Thanks


Entered at Tue Aug 6 01:02:07 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

The Fender Spellcaster was popularized by Screaming Jay Hawkins, who played a black model on most of his hits. It's now highly collectable, renowned for having no 13th fret, which makes playing solos harder. The Spellcaster bass was in the 1958 Fender catalogue, but apparently only four prototypes were made, one of which belongs to Sir Paul McCartney.


Entered at Tue Aug 6 00:30:51 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Wouldn't you have thought that their existing major label deal with Columbia would have demanded a new album? But it is excellent.


Entered at Tue Aug 6 00:19:30 CEST 2013 from (216.193.165.93)

Posted by:

Little Brøther

Location: The Guestbook Archives

Subject: Spellcaster Availability

Re: i need a spell caster to help me bring back my ex

______________________

Good luck with that.

My understanding is that Fender only made a few hundred Spellcasters, and they were discontinued after it was discovered that when rowdy audiences threw garlic cloves or sprinkled holy water on them, they'd disappear in a puff of greasy smoke.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 22:32:52 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: I'm Just A Country Boy

Richard may have also been inspired by the version recorded by Don Williams in 1977, which was a #1 country single.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 21:29:19 CEST 2013 from (78.147.228.104)

Posted by:

Sparks

Web: My link

I guess it sparks of desperation but I have been browsing The Band website for hours now. Pity there are no album reviews though.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 21:02:12 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Civil Wars

I remember being one of the first to mention The Civil Wars; on this site; after seeing their short appearance on the Grammys; introducing Taylor Swift.

I just watched the video on the NPR page. He keeps his eyes shut and looking down. Meanwhile (if you didn't know better) looks at him in an engaging almost loving manner. Yes I know they are happily married to others. She moves her head and speaks through her eyes; much like the late Mary Travers; of Peter, Paul and Mary.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 19:56:56 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Civil Wars

There was also an article about the group in The New York Times over the weekend. Joy Williams spoke of "creative differences that had been building for several months and came to a head in the songwriting sessions" for their new album. She said that "I believe in pushing borders and finding new territory and expanding. I personally felt like John Paul was more of the ilk that things would happen organically and 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it.'" Despite not touring to support the new self-titled album, they were able to get a major label deal with Columbia, which is giving it a big push.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 18:03:59 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Thank, Calvin. Most interesting interview after a morning spent listening.

A couple of recent vinyl finds have a Band connection. Sam Cooke Sings Sweetly has the version of "I'm Just A Country Boy" that I guess inspired Richard Manuel's version.

Then I picked up "Four Folk Songs" EP by The Limeliters because it has a version of "Ain't No More Cane" from 1964, a couple of years after Dylan bootlegs, and a version which obviously had zero influence on The Band, except "how not to do it."


Entered at Mon Aug 5 17:08:21 CEST 2013 from (24.252.149.201)

Posted by:

Calvin

Web: My link

I felt this was a really good interview with Joy Williams on National Public Radio last Friday. NPR gives the best musical coverage of really any radio network in the US even though they play little music. Yours truly will be on his local NPR affiliate in a few weeks promoting his new book as well.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 16:58:48 CEST 2013 from (24.252.149.201)

Posted by:

Calvin

i dont know if you were aware of this Peter, but her husband was/is the band's tour manager-so her family was always with her.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 16:24:28 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Funny … our speculative guesses went the other way. She just had a new baby and after ten years of slogging in the music business he finally was making it big. We guessed the quoted "ambition" was his.

But it makes more sense your way … you can take a small baby round the world on tour, but you can't take a young family with schooling etc.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 15:57:38 CEST 2013 from (24.252.149.201)

Posted by:

Calvin

I dont know Peter-she has given a couple of interviews and it sounds like there was a split of some kind. Actually it sounds like there was an honest to god split. Although she seemed to think the partnership wasnt over-really sounded like he is a guy who just hated being on tour and wanted to be around his family and not miss his children growing up while touring the world.

That said, damn good stuff.

Saw Bob Mould the other night-I know he has been much bigger over in the UK than he ever was here. Put on a great show, I mean a great show.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 12:08:30 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Rumors of Civil Wars

I'd ignored the "auto rip" copies in the Cloud as they're only MP3s and Rock Snobs don't play MP3s, but I finally registered this morning as I know my copy of "The Civil Wars" won't get here till 2 pm or 3 pm IF it arrives today. So I've been listening this morning. So far I'm tending towards the 4 star reviewers rather than the curmudgeonly 3s and 2s. It does make me think … they've had enormous print / review coverage here.

As I said when they cancelled Brighton, for which I had tickets, they only cancelled one or two smaller English dates, fulfilling all the larger ones in the week after they announced their split. Then they went back and did the album and got massive "Did they? / Didn't they?" publicity and coverage. I don't know, but a tiny suspicious area of my mind reminds how well they've manipulated the media.

Just a little bell rang when John Paul sang about "the women come, and go" which almost quotes Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams" which almost quotes Jefferson Airplane's "Eskimo Blue Day" and Bob Dylan's "All Along The Watchtower." Comparison with "Rumors" is in every review.

She has an amazing voice.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 11:51:54 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Both our spellcaster addresses "Location USA" are in fact Nigeria. I find it interesting that most of the SPAM on my own site claims to come from "USA" though the vast majority is Russia.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 01:18:45 CEST 2013 from (101.164.67.243)

Posted by:

Dlew919

Subject: Condolences to the danko family

Very sad for them.


Entered at Mon Aug 5 00:41:24 CEST 2013 from (71.198.227.139)

Posted by:

Tiny Monster

Location: Out-There

Subject: ... Dylan and all ...

... Going to see Dylan, Wilco, My Morning Jacket in a couple hours. Thanks for the review, I'll let you know what's what later...

...I'd go just for Wilco, whom I have seen four or five times over the years but never seen Dylan. I suspect he will be the Dylan I've come to know ...

... Weather's good Shorline Amphitheatre is great ...

... What could go wrong ? ...



Entered at Sun Aug 4 20:23:32 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Once again a sad time for the Danko family. My condolences go out to brother-in-law Terry Danko; who is an old friend.


Entered at Sun Aug 4 18:27:40 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

So sorry for the Danko family and Elizabeth's people.


Entered at Sun Aug 4 14:14:15 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Sorry to hear about Elizabeth Danko. Condolences to her family and friends.


Entered at Sun Aug 4 12:20:40 CEST 2013 from (83.249.143.62)

Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Scania Northwest

My condolences.


Entered at Sun Aug 4 04:43:22 CEST 2013 from (67.189.229.7)

Posted by:

Norman Clancy

Subject: Elizabeth Danko

What a shame. RIP


Entered at Sun Aug 4 03:19:51 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Elizabeth Danko

RIP. Condolences and wishes of comfort to family and friends.Sad news.


Entered at Sat Aug 3 21:06:34 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Thank you for the link to Jolie Blond, one of my favorite Zydeco numbers,

+Sad to hear about Elizabeth Danko. My condolences to Justin and the family


Entered at Sat Aug 3 16:14:34 CEST 2013 from (24.105.206.42)

Posted by:

Lil

For those who don't know, Elizabeth Danko passed away last night. RIP.


Entered at Sat Aug 3 16:03:07 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Sad news again

Family matters.....This was on the Rick Danko Facebook page, noted Harold Lapidus (The Examiner): Very sad to say that Elizabeth Danko, Rick's wife, passed away this evening at 6:30 p.m. Rick met Elizabeth in Woodstock and they had been together since the early '70s. Elizabeth was born in France and moved to the US with her family in the late 1940s, when she was a young child. She had recently turned 70. Love and prayers for Justin and all of Elizabeth's family...God bless and Godspeed.


Entered at Sat Aug 3 03:45:13 CEST 2013 from (96.30.173.135)

Posted by:

joe j

Web: My link

Subject: Jole Blon

I've linked this before but it's that good. Jennings/Holly/King Curtis. Waylon mangles the French but give him credit for trying the original. Anyway King Curtis has got his back. The popular Springsteen/US Bonds cover is of the Roy Acuff cover. I first heard a cover of the Moon Mullican parody, I don't remember who by. Maybe Cowboy Copas? All good. Check out Buckwheat Zydeco's version as well, no?


Entered at Sat Aug 3 03:29:46 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Beck variations

Jon: Beck like Dylan is many styles and variations. His big one was "Odelay' and 'Midnite Vultures' is in the same vein. (upbeat, funky, sampling, rhythm) but you may prefer 'Sea Change' (somewhat grim supposedly after a relationship breakup) or 'Mutations.' They are all good and all different. Hard to say, Jon. Give the sadness of 'Sea Change' a try. Maybe you can listen a little to material on You Tube to decide. Good luck. This is a very talented man.


Entered at Sat Aug 3 02:41:30 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Buzzy Feiten from Butterfield's band and Robert Pops Popwell in the last iteration of the Rascals. Hummin Song at around 21:30 is a gem of pop soul.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 23:19:35 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Loser Walks on Gilded Splinters

On "Loser" Beck sampled the rhythm track from Johnny Jenkins' cover of Dr. John's "I Walk On Gilded Splinters" (link). It featured Butch Trucks and Jaimoe from The Allman Brothers Band. Also backing Mr. Jenkins were Duane Allman on dobro, Paul Hornsby on Wurlitzer and Robert Popwell on bass.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 23:12:20 CEST 2013 from (208.120.36.230)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Hi all, appreciate the kind words!

Kevin, agree about seats. I was satisfied with a decent seat, but likely wouldn't have gone at all with a distant one. Since Dylan is often seated himself, it's not the most visually compelling of shows. It's probably worth mentioning too that the Dylan shows I saw from the 90s through 2011 had simple but pleasing stage lighting, such that today I can even recall the colors of light during key songs. But for some reason, this show and the 2012 one I attended had rather muddy yellowish lighting, making it harder to focus from a distance. And Dylan's quirky facial expressions and stage moves are fascinating, when you can see them... for any number of reasons, the shows are better close up.

JT or anyone else, knowing we're fellow Band/Dylan fans, what do you recommend I try from Beck's catalog? I'm more apt to enjoy something leaning in a folkie/country direction than electronica (but with that said, I thought his use of sampled beats on the acoustic live stuff was terrific, so I'm not a purist by any means).

Thanks Peter, liking that KT cover a lot.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 23:07:10 CEST 2013 from (70.53.45.54)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Beck

Funny thing about Beck. I remember that first big hit of his “I’m a Loser Baby” and then years later while flipping channels I saw this guy doing what I had first thought was a spoof of James Brown……but it was just so out there and so weird with dance moves that were cringe worthy that I didn’t know what to make of it……..turned out it was Beck…………….one other memory and it is a very good one and that is a camera panning the crowd at some awards show and Celine Dion was up on stage. Most in the crowd were trying hard not to look that impressed…….Beck was in rapture……and Celine “not my cup of tea” Dion really was in her finest vocal form on this occasion on a song that suited that type of singing………….anyhow, what I liked about the guy was just his complete lack of pretension at that moment…….he was admiring what he was witnessing and Cool be damned, he was not afraid to show it.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 22:48:00 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Golden Age

Excellent Dylan review. Thanks. The link goes to KT Tunstall's cover of Beck's "Golden Age" from Acoustic Extravaganza. Another cover competing with the original.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 22:05:21 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Dylan Review

Nice review.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 22:01:02 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Thank you Jon : And Beck too

Nice review, Jon. Thank you. I've liked Beck Hanson from the start. I bought all of it and, like Dylan, there are peaks and valleys. But overall, his output has been stellar in the main.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 21:37:54 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Thank you Jon

Interesting about the opening act. Here in Toronto, it was Richard Thompson. He too went on at 5:30. He too played to mostly empty seats. Note to the promoters. A lot of people do have day jobs.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 20:32:20 CEST 2013 from (70.53.45.54)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Beautifully done Jon and informative. The point about seating is almost always important at shows but particularly important at Dylan shows especially as he has moved to doing this softer approach but is still being booked into hockey arenas and bigger outdoor venues. If I manage to get seats exactly where I want… I go….if not, I don’t…..and multi-act shows are not a favorite either…….Mark Knopfler opening last year was just about perfect because even if your date for the show possessed that highly undesirable trait of reasonableness you mentioned…you just knew they would be satisfied enough by Mr. Knopfler to smile along with Bob.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 20:04:14 CEST 2013 from (74.203.77.122)

Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC
Web: My link

Subject: Dylan/Americanarama last Saturday

OK, here are my thoughts on seeing Dylan and the Americanarama Tour on July 27th. This show was out at Jones Beach Theater in Wantagh, Long Island, kind of a schlep from NYC but well worth it.

Supporting acts were Ryan Bingham, Beck and Wilco, all of whom I had some interest in hearing. Ryan Bingham went first, and I felt a bit sorry for him... very short set to a mostly empty stadium (the show started at 5:30, and most folks were probably still stuck in traffic). Beck was next and he really blew me away... he sang original folk and country type songs with acoustic backing, some brand new; he rapped, he played blues harmonica, and he did a near-acapella rendition of an Everly brothers song as a duet with one of his bandmates. Tremendous variety and creativity in his set, and I was impressed enough to want to dig deeper in his catalog.

Next up was Wilco. I had very high hopes for their set, and being honest I thought them good but not outstanding. With that said, their set built energy as it moved along, and the highlights came during an amazing half-hour or so at the end. Beck joined Wilco onstage for a lovely California Stars (a Woody Guthrie-written song from the Billy Bragg/Wilco Mermaid Avenue album, and the song I'd most hoped to hear from them). Next was an amazing take on Loser, one of Beck's early hits, with surprise guests Cibo Matto and a knockout performance that turned the show into a dance party. Finally, everyone was shocked as Sean Lennon came out and joined the group on two of his dad's songs, Yer Blues and Tomorrow Never Knows. A really memorable and surprising run of songs.

Dylan took the stage around 9:30, nearly four hours after the show had started. Being honest, the setlist was pretty pedestrian by recent standards, with no big surprises like Suzie Baby or The Weight. He was in good voice, by rather relaxed recent standards at least, but I did think some of the arrangements were too messy and busy. She Belongs to Me was a nice setlist surprise, but the arrangement didn't do it justice. With all that said, there's always a song or moment in a Dylan show where I think "this is why I came", and I got that big-time with an absolutely stunning Blind Willie McTell. A very cool banjo-driven stop/start arrangement, much like the one from the Scorese tribute, and a Dylan performance to die for. (Link is to a similar recent BWM performance; listen also for an intriguing lyric change.) I also got to hear Hard Rain live for the first time, a tender Simple Twist of Fate, and nice renditions of Love Sick and some of the new Tempest material.

On Dylan's set specifically, I'd give the show a B/B+, but probably would have been a "gentleman's A-" with a better seat and/or a Weight-type surprise or two in the mix. At this point, having seen him once a year or so for the last five years, I would indeed love to see the band freshened up and a different approach taken with some of the material. It pains me to say it, but it's not hard to see how reasonable people could leave disappointed. But for me personally, a highly enjoyable night, and not much doubt I'll be lining up again next time he comes around.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 18:06:40 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: RoA Horns

Of course Howard Johnson is still active, playing often with Levon at Rambles & concert appearances in recent years. In an interview not long ago Mr. Johnson talked about playing on Rock of Ages and mentioned a problem with Allen Toussaint's horn charts, which necessitated that he had to quickly rewrite them:

"...[W]hen it came to the first rehearsal, it was revealed that Toussaint, when he was writing the arrangements, had a cassette player that had weak batteries. When we started to rehearse, we realized there was a problem immediately because we were playing a tune that was supposed to be in G and we're playing it in F# because that's what's on paper."

After Rock of Ages, both Mr. Johnson and Earl McIntyre worked with Taj Mahal in a band that also included John Simon. He also worked with Levon in the RCO All-Stars and later became a major fixture in the Saturday Night Live band.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 18:03:14 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Grateful Dead/Kevin

Thanks for the clip,although I read it was Brent's last song with the Dead.Very sad- I was a huge admirer of Brent's playing and singing.Sadly,by 1990 Jerry and Brent were both not well and it is evident in this performance.I stopped seeing the GD in 1988 and frankly,that was too long on the bus given how their state of health and music were clearly in decline.These days I listen to the Dead only from their most productive and creative years-69,70,71,72,73,74,76,and 77.Many outstanding shows from those days,much beauty in their work.Jerry did do some excellent solo work as many here know and his covers of Band songs,particularly TNTDODD was but one example.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 16:38:50 CEST 2013 from (24.114.27.233)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

I couldn't find Dylan's The Weight from August 1 either but did find this one by The Grateful Dead. A nice one actually......


Entered at Fri Aug 2 15:41:59 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Happy Birthday Garth!!

All the best to you Garth. Good health to you and Maud.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 15:36:20 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

"Life Is A Carnival......two bits a shot."


Entered at Fri Aug 2 15:33:17 CEST 2013 from (41.162.7.114)

Posted by:

NUX

Web: My link

Subject: Procol Harum

Wow,what a great performance(2006).Worth watching,good sound.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 15:14:11 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Rotating lead guitars on the Never Ending Tour

In Salt Lake City last night (1.8.13) it was Colin Linden on lead while in Denver (31.7. 13) it was Charlie Sexton. Tour ends in a few days. Are there any more surprises in store. I would love to hear the Dylan cover of 1952 Black Vincent Lightning (song by Richard Thompson) of Clarkston 14.7.13 but it is no where to be found.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 14:39:08 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Shooting Star in Colorado

Bob Dylan did a brilliant 'Shooting Star' as encore in Colorado on 31.7. 13. Apparently repeated again in Utah on 1.8.13 along with 'The Weight' if what I have read was correct.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 11:01:21 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: How terribly strange to be 70.

Well, Robbie is, so is my sister, Paul Simon is 71, and a very happy 76th to Garth today.

Bookends was released in the Spring of 1968. It’s not quite perfect, because Hazy Shade of Winter and At The Zoo were left overs shoehorned on the end and sound like it, and Mrs Robinson was from the Graduate soundtrack. But the first side, plus Fakin’ It and Punky’s Dilemma, then Mrs Robinson, on Side Two had it in the running as an all-time great.

The talk of horn sections brought back memories of “Bookends.” I was working on the summer shows and most of the stage crew had day jobs in banks. I was the only student and the only one with longish hair, and always seemed to end up pals with the backing band … having nothing to do in the afternoon, nor did they, but I had local knowledge. For those shows, the horn section were all first-rate session guys. It was standard practice to do session work for nine months, then do the summer shows at the large seaside resorts as the backing band … those shows played to 2000 people twice nightly for three months. I had bought Bookends and wandered in with it one afternoon when they were rehearsing, and they saw it and had heard about it, so we went straight to their dressing room and played it. There were four of them in the horn section, and they all bought a copy, and it was the soundtrack of that summer. They analysed it in detail and thought it totally brilliant in production and execution … as indeed it is. And lyrically, it’s all wonderful stuff. One to dust off and play today, I think.

I mentioned this once before. On Sundays the Symphony Orchestra did the evening and the show was closed. For one concert they recruited two of the horn section to read in because of illness and this seemed quite standard. These guys did sessions and as long as there was a score, they could play it, and they wore DJ's (aka black tuxedos) as part of the band anyway.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 09:27:16 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Syria Mosque

that was a great concert. The equal of ROA IMHO.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 05:59:48 CEST 2013 from (24.108.143.105)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Ah youth!

We sometimes forget how young they were when they began. Having had classical training in the best schools, Garth Hudson.... " In December 1961, the 24-year-old Hudson joined The Hawks, the backing band for Ronnie Hawkins, which already consisted of 21-year-old Levon Helm on drums, 18-year-old Robbie Robertson on guitar, 18-year-old Rick Danko on bass and 18-year-old pianist Richard Manuel."


Entered at Fri Aug 2 05:39:13 CEST 2013 from (75.34.34.118)

Posted by:

Adam

Web: My link

A very Happy 76th Birthday to the maestro, Mr. Garth Hudson! Long may you run.

Here's that previously unseen video again, in case anyone missed it. Awesome peak behind Garth's keyboard fortress. Great catch on the equipment, Pat B. Love stuff like that!


Entered at Fri Aug 2 05:24:09 CEST 2013 from (99.115.145.68)

Posted by:

Pat B

Earl McIntyre is still active.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 02:44:03 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Subject: ROA Horns

In the book that came with the A Musicl History Boxset,there was discussion about the apprehension felt by the horn guys,who as serious musicians initially wondered if some R&R outfit was up to serious music making.Also,talk of the charts written in one key and how The Band's musical flexibility impressed the horn guys.The whole discussion merits reading.


Entered at Fri Aug 2 01:33:51 CEST 2013 from (174.54.185.44)

Posted by:

Kevin from Northeast PA

Subject: ROA Horns

I always wondered what the members of the Rock of Ages horn section thought about the shows and the album they were a part of. Has anyone ever read anything that they may have said regarding their experiences with The Band? Were they fans? Or was it just another gig?


Entered at Fri Aug 2 00:01:01 CEST 2013 from (96.54.178.226)

Posted by:

JT

Location: Victoria and Toronto intermittently

Subject: Bookends

Peter V: I agree about those S&G lyrics. I am in awe of them. How did a young man (PS) understand and know about what old people feel like and what they think about. These lyrics captured those feelings and thoughts superlatively. As I interact with my elderly (80-90) year old relatives and others I am increasingly impressed by the insight portrayed by these lyrics.


Entered at Thu Aug 1 22:57:04 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Subject: Let me forget about today until tomorrow...

And in "Don't Fall Apart On Me Tonight" Dylan also sang:

"Yesterday's just a memory
Tomorrow is never what it's supposed to be."


Entered at Thu Aug 1 22:55:43 CEST 2013 from (108.90.18.26)

Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

The entire Syria Mosque show is available on Youtube as audio only.


Entered at Thu Aug 1 22:23:29 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Paul Simon says it better …

Time it was and what a time it was, it was

A time of innocence, a time of confidences

Long ago, it must be, I have a photograph

Preserve your memories, they're all that's left you

"Old friends" from Bookends, Simon & Garfunkel


Entered at Thu Aug 1 20:55:38 CEST 2013 from (70.53.45.54)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Web: My link

Subject: Open The Door, Homer

"Take care of all your memories....For you cannot relive them" - Bob Dylan


Entered at Thu Aug 1 19:38:55 CEST 2013 from (74.108.29.147)

Posted by:

Joan

Subject: Bill M/John D

Bill, I think the Dylsn/Danko dog was named Hamlet. You\can see him in some of Eliot Landy's photos.

Thanks John for that post. I've seen it before but it ios always treat. It's a s shame that there isn't more good footage , Pre MTV era I guess.


Entered at Thu Aug 1 16:13:49 CEST 2013 from (156.47.15.10)

Posted by:

David P

Web: My link

Subject: Jerry Garcia

Jerry Garcia was born on this day in 1942 and died on August 9, 1995. Here's a link to a Grateful Dead performance of "Tennessee Jed", written by Mr. Garcia & Robert Hunter and later covered by Levon.


Entered at Thu Aug 1 13:56:23 CEST 2013 from (99.245.109.0)

Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: The Band Live November 1970

This may have been posted before; but well worth a watch and listen.


Entered at Thu Aug 1 11:22:31 CEST 2013 from (122.59.251.42)

Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Slipping and Sliding

Thanks for posting that Adam - I've never seen it before. The camera angle is unique and shows Garth's rig off nicely.

Re Mumford and Sons. I've always wanted to like them bit found their sound too intense. I bought their first album quite early on before they became mega - purely because they named checked my two favourite bands at the time - The Band and Old Crow Medicine Show. If nothing else they have been responsible for reviving interest in traditional instruments. Most music shops here are now stocking a (small) range of banjos,mandolins etc. Heck, I even bought a "guitro" the other day.


Entered at Thu Aug 1 11:17:16 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Doors

Today Toppermost arrives at The Doors, with enthusiastic write-up by the webmaster, Merric (an old friend). I'll comment, but I know many here are interested in The Doors and definitely NOT in my opinion of them. Keep looking because tomorrow is Jefferson Airplane.

Do feel free to comment or contact them with suggestions for other lists.


Entered at Thu Aug 1 08:48:44 CEST 2013 from (82.69.47.175)

Posted by:

Peter V

BTW, I assiduously listened through "Saved" yesterday. I was impressed by "Pressing On" to my surprise. Funny, I've seen Jim Keltner a few times, once with Dylan too (where he was the best thing about the show), but I found the drums oppressive throughout the album. I think the recording was very much "of the time" especially on "big drums."


Entered at Thu Aug 1 04:16:06 CEST 2013 from (24.218.16.94)

Posted by:

Dave H

The other issue with Rock of Ages sequencing is that at the actual concerts, the Band played one set by itself and then a second set accompanied by the horn section, which obviously makes all the sense in the world for a live gig--otherwise the horns are alternating playing and just sitting there on stage (or, if you bring the horns out for the first set and not for the second set, the second is a letdown in comparison). But that's not necessarily the sequence you want for a live album, especially since the album drew much more heavily on the second-set material than the first-set material (naturally, since the horn arrangements are what's most distinctive about the whole project). So instead the Band threw away the concert order and sprinkled a few non-horn tracks in among the horn-augmented numbers, and made sure to kick the album off with a few horn tracks in a row (starting with "Don't Do It," which obviously really cooks and is a great opening cut). Makes sense, even though it presents a somewhat revised picture of what the gigs were actually like.


Entered at Thu Aug 1 03:51:08 CEST 2013 from (174.44.139.55)

Posted by:

Jed

Location: The Weight

Bob Weir/Warren Haynes and band live from TRI studios(just completed first set) played a beautiful acoustic version of The Weight.Understated and with a lot of good feeling throughout.Back to more live musuc!


Entered at Thu Aug 1 03:48:21 CEST 2013 from (74.78.175.69)

Posted by:

Far East Man

Location: Rockport, ME

Subject: Self Portrait

Just finished the Uncut article on the upcoming Bob Dylan rerelease of Self Portrait. I'm encouraged - it sounds like it is going to be something really special. Lots of interesting tidbits in the article. A new version of Minstrel Boy from the basement - many other interesting tracks. I'm ready!


Entered at Thu Aug 1 00:10:38 CEST 2013 from (68.171.231.80)

Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: hound dog hound dog live with me ...

Ian W: Thanks for the YAWYE link. I really think that Jack in John Simon's song was Dylan's dog, which I believe was later adopted by Rick Danko. Rick, not coincidentally I suspect, was subsequently called on to sing the reference to a dog named Jack in ""The Weight".


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