The Band Guestbook, February 2009

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Charlie Y

Subject: Doing the Whole Album in Concert...

Does anyone know who started the concept of performing an entire album in correct song sequence? I know Brian Wilson got a lot of attention in recent years when he and his fine band toured with complete live versions of both "Pet Sounds" and "Smile." Then there was The Who way back in the "Tommy" days when I think they did that "rock opera" in the same manner. In recent years I've read about tribute bands doing this for various classic albums. The band Phish performed the entire "White Album" by The Beatles in concert and I think Jimmy Vivino's Fab Faux have done similar shows.

If I could turn back time and see The Band in their prime (that would be 1970-71), I think I'd love to hear the whole of "Stage Fright" in sequence live. The show I saw in Maryland in June 1971 was pretty close to that, and remains the finest concert I've ever witnessed by any musical ensemble of any size or shape.

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BONK

NB. how about 50/50 on you and music. Should be interesting. Joan. Loved your post. How true. Roz. Where the hell are you my common cunning linguist? Been away for a few days and miss those links you were giving us.

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Norbert

We live 1.5 year in Germany now, made some friends.

A few houses down the road lives Walter, he’s about 80 now. Grew up in a German-Poland I think (near the Baltic Sea). Must be beautiful there as he speaks with great passion about it. They didn't have hollidays back then, but in summer, on warm Sundays, they’d go swimming in the sea, beautuful! In 1945, just 16, they gave him a riffle to kill Russians. He had never had a gun in his hand before, all he did was run to the west. The English got him, he had to work on a farm for a year. After that, with nothing left, still a kid, he couldn’t return home anymore. The first time he could return was 1989. There was nothing left and all where gone, a sad place.

Walter is a friendly man, gardening is his hobby, he knows a lot about it (learned that in captivity on the farm). He also likes to back delicious pies, his second passion. He’s old now and his body is torn apart by cancer. Would love to see him garden, back and chat around for many years to come, but could be he meets his maker soon. I hope they let him in, he’s a good man.

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Steve

I guess if you hang around here long enough you'll witness a small miracle now and then.

Norm and Jeff, Jeff and Norm, talking harmoniously about harmony on several levels. Let's not make this the exception to the rule.

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Joan

Norm, Jeff, it was really nice to wake up to your posts. There is a lot of pain in life (both mental and physical). Music brings healing to both. Thank you for putting some perspective on the daily craziness. As the little kid who was digging through a pile of horse dung said "There's gotta be a pony down there somewhere." :-D Happy day to all! I get to see my great niece Eloise today. There is nothing better than that.

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

But first, Northern Nutjob, I hope your mom is doing well/ better/ and not hurting too bad while she's going through this..

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

Norm,

After I hit the send button, and i saw the post posted, I realized i should have written "if someone", as I did not mean only you in particular. Though it could easily have been interpreted that I did.

Anyway regardless of the fact that it may seem otherwise, no one has a whole hell of a lot more than their convictions and their "voice" (There are many ways to voice). And if they are lucky, they have some friends and family. Having money, or a whole bunch of money does make dealing with shit a lot easier, but sometimes people find out their money don't mean shit compared to what they are facing, and other times, people run out of money, luck, and maybe even chances..

There are a lot of equalizers in this world we live in. You can be born fucked, lucky, both or in between. You can be living high on the hog or down in the dumps. But once a person gets stripped bare, and it don't have to be just or only financially, but once you are down to nothing but nerve endings, and you well work your situation out or through creatively, I don't give a fuck who you are, you'll always look at things differently, and also look at things a whole passel of ways. There's beauty and pain all over the place, and lots of shit to be "singing" about.

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Peter V

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JQ

Jeff - This is another joyous one from Van. I've always thought of it as being an extremely well-penned pop song too.

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westcoaster

Subject: Music

Jeff, of course I know what you mean. You're absolutely right. The Delta blues or many forms of the best music there is,is from the plight of people such as I have described. All they have is their voices, and they become more powerful than anything, as all their energy is directed there.

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PutEmUp(Friend0

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westcoaster

Subject: The Passionate Eye

Songs such as Brown Eyed Girl, stand the test of time for long ago memories and bring a warmth to your heart much of the time.

This morning at 06:00 while having my coffee by the fire, I watched "The Passionate Eye", a CBC television documentary show. This particular one, "The Choir" documented the conditions of prisons, mostly in "South Africa". Particularly a couple of individuals and their plight.

The one old fellow who conducted and fought and never gave up to keep together a choir of inmates who were pretty tough and mean. They went to a competion of many prisons chiors, (and won).

On being released and trying to find jobs, which with the white "Africaners" was next to impossible. Finally the old guy was hired as a paid choir conducter at the prison. The young fellow finally found work, and his friends helped him build his home in the township. This was a cement block cubicle, about 8'x14' with a tim roof. He was happy as hell. He had a home. Very shorlty after the police broke in his door and started beating him, as he was accused of robbery. After 5 months more in prison he finally went to trial, was accuited and released.

Two things struck me while watching this. While we are worrying about mortgages and the deficit, (we are still all very spoiled in my mind.) These folks have nothing but their voices. I have always thought some of the most beautiful music in the world comes from a choir of black folks, and particularly the Africans.

A movie, "The Power of One" had some of the most beautiful accappelo music ever, but this documentary of the competions of these prisoners, womens prisons and all was beyond imagination. Their singing is so beautiful as to bringa lump to your throat.

What do they have to sing about? all they have in life is their voices.......incredible.

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

I stayed current with Van through Poetics Champions Compose. Which I love. And then that fairly broign album wiht Have I Told You Lately on it. Afterwards, the content of the releases kinda got a little repetitious there for awhile for me, And boring. I readily admit i;m not well up on the newest of the lot, and don't feel like I'm missing much.

I love the song Brown eyed Girl. Its a damn joyous song. There's times I don't want to hear it, but frequently it has brought a smile to my face and ears. Same goes for Wild Night, another song that is overplayed.

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JTull Fan

I am also like that with my favorite bands, be it Tull, The Beatles, Steely Dan, The Band, Dylan...I love Steely Dan but always turn off Do It Again or Reelin' In The Years. I prefer the deeper cuts of The White Album to any early Beatles hits, etc.

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JTull Fan

I have to agree with Van Morrison concerning Brown Eyed Girl. It is not a terrible song, but it is still one I instantly switch the radio if it comes on, which is often given how overplayed it is. VM is one of those artists whom I tend not to like his more popular and well known songs, but the more obscure his material is, the more I like it.

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Bayou Sam

I didn't scroll back to see if this came up, but Van Morrison was interviewed yesterday on the Imus radio show. It's interesting and the Band is mentioned quite a bit. I know that Peter and others are huge Van fans so I thought I'd paste the link. http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=1185691&spid=22807

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PutEmUp(Friend0

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Lars

Subject: Kevin J.

KEVIN- I'd like to thank you for that clip "Blaze of Glory." It was like seeing a tape of my folks & family, back when we were all together and everyone was so young. It's a good way to start the weekend...well done.

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Bill M

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Ilkka

My compatriot Jorma Kaukonen is mentioned in What's New in theband.hiof.no. In Finnish language "-nen" in the end of family name is like "van" in Dutch or "von" in German, but it has nothing to do with noble birth. First part "Kauko-" means something which is far away. So, Kaukonen has ment - at least for centuries ago - "Someone-who-comes-from-far-away". Nowadays no one thinks about it so.

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Joan

Blaze of Glory made me smile. Suzanne by Abba not so much. :-D

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Kevin J

Subject: Illkka - Suzanne

An encore of one of the Abba girls doing L.Cohen.....

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Ilkka

Subject: 1.) Four letter words 2.) Abba

1.) To my gb friend EMPTY NOW: You should apology for your use of four letter words. NOT because of simple Internet ethics but because this server is a LINUX server.

2.) In our little Medieval town with ABBA connections the young people are going to sing Abba songs in Lutheran parish house. Great! ...and not ping-pong, Peter.

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Kevin J

Subject: Blaze of Glory

Smile to end the week! See Link From "The Band is Back"

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Landmark

Steve, I went there when I fractured my ankle and foot last year. In and out after x-rays and cast in under 90 minutes. It would've been faster if they didn't have to look for crutches for my size. When they removed the cast, I got the doctor to write a note saying that I shouldn't walk for any excessive periods of time, thus keeping me out of the supermarket for an extra month!

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Steve

NB, Satanic Nurses, do say more.

Marge and I spent all day Monday in The Lachine Hospital. Marge had foot surgery. The nurses were anything but Satanic, more Florence Nightingaleish. They were great.

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Landmark

David, I'll be in Atlanta on Mar. 22. Not sure if I'm eating at Crystal Burger in the airport or Abdullah The Butcher's House Of Ribs. Will keep you posted.

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David P.

And there was the 1968 bubblegum hit "Green Tambourine" by the Lemon Pipers.

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Kevin J

In the "Grannies are getting better looking" department......Stevie Nicks just turned 60!!!

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Steve

The re-enactment of the Battle Of The Plains OF Abraham, on the 250th anniversary, won't be going down on The Plains.

A radical group of Quebec nationalists has promised a murderous response if it did and the Federal Gov't has backed off from allowing a group of American re-enactors to use the Plains which is a National Park for their battle.

The Frenchies are claiming it as a victory in the war, that for them , never ends.

In a simple twist of irony, the Yanks, not to be denied their day of warring, are moving the battle field to Upper NY State, possibly just north of Woodstock making the re-enactment about as historically accurate as J2R's song, and in a way, bringing it all back home.

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dlew919

New meme: here's a totally random way to make your new random band's new random album cover. Post one! Go to “Wikipedia.” Hit “random” and the first article you get is the name of your band. Then go to “Random Quotations” and the last four or five words of the very last quote of the page is the title of your first album. Then, go to Flickr and click on “Explore the Last Seven Days” and the third picture, no matter what it is, will be your album cover.

For the record, here's my results...

Wisconsin Association of Independent Colleges and Universities the secret places of the soul. http://www.flickr.com/photos/25254171@N08/3306310490/

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Steve

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John Benson-Stern

Hello fellow Band fans, I too love the The Band. I was wondering if anyone knew why Levon Helm, Robbie Robertson, and Garth Hudson don't join again for a reunion. No Rick Danko maybe?

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Steve

In his most recent attempt to help reconcile Israel and Palestine he met with Hamas leaders in Egypt. He seemed to be most impressed by the fact that the four main leaders outside of Palestine are not religious people and are in fact western educated engineers and phd'd university professors.

He seemed to think this was a very positive fact which was curious coming from a self proclaimed man of the cloth.

Anyone else find the Annie Liebowitz story kinda strange?

She's sold the rights to all her past and future work for 15.3 million bucks to pay for a home renovation project "gone bad". It was that or file for bankruptcy. Anybody ever been to her house?

Dlew, I think anytime you write a religious, historical novel you are free to use Northern Boy's definition of "facts".

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Brien Sz

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Empty Now

Subject: nothing worthy - Part II

It’s a title in a yesterday’s newspaper which focused my mind on this anecdote I didn’t knew before, I found it so cute that every reader must find it a score.

During the World Fair of 1937 in Paris, the German ambassador with Paris, Otto Abetz attending the exposure of “Guernica”, apparently impressed by the painting of Picasso required of him: “it is you who had paint this masterpiece”
to what Picasso answered: “ Not, it is you”

I just also learned the funny side of the story and for The Band Connection, what’s happened in Guernika-Lumo on April 26th 1937 has been recorded by the official literature as “the FIRST terrorist bombardment of the History”

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Peter V

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jh

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kristie

That sounds great! However, I will be heading to California for two weeks to visit some family down there... But let me know if you have anything coming up after that because I would love to check it out!

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Kristie

Is not just a great song written by Otis Redding....it is also something we should show every human being and creature on this planet. Naive? perhaps a bit. Maybe this is why I am going back into the wild soon. Being nestled in the mountains clears my head of any negative feelings I may have, and being surrounded by natural beauty like that...well life is short. I realize more and more that one has to make the best of it.

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Charlie Y

Subject: Mr. Tambourine Man

I listened to the CD version of Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks Live at the Hollywood Bowl" in the car today and thought it sounded pretty good. The bonus track of "Gloria" is included on the double-disc vinyl version and there's a goof on the CD booklet as it credits John Densmore (drummer for The Doors) for playing tambourine on "Gloria" even though the track isn't on the CD version!

I hope someone who bought the vinyl version will offer a critique of Mr. Densmore's performance. Is he down there in the lower depths of tambourine proficieny with Davy Jones or does he have the cool consistancy of Gene Clark? In any case, I think Peter may be upset that there's a Kevin Bacon-like link of The Band to The Doors--with Van Morrison being Mr. Bacon in this case (no "bacon fat" jokes, please!).

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Friend0

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Northern Buoy

Subject: Rockin' At The Royal Canadian Legion

Hey Norm ! I just checked and I think the Legion you'll be playing at is actually on 106. It's maybe a 90 min. drive from here, but an easy one so I'll definitely try to make it. Providing you'll gaurantee me that they'll have the standard Legion fare of pickled eggs and pickled weiners on hand, you know, the kind they keep in those big honking bottles up by the bar. It would be great to hear your music live. And not to rush you or anything Norm, but would your eternally imminent CD possibly be available for purchase at the time of this gig ? (Now as much as you may want to, don't jump in here Steve and Jeff). It would certainly be a blast to finally meet you, albeit in a non-Guinness serving establishment.

Stevon Farm: Just got back from visiting my mom in a Toronto hospital. How come no one's ever written a novel called "The Satanic Nurses" ? In under five days, I easily managed to compile more than enough material for such a litter-airy undertaking.

Joan:I never heard back after emailing BEG. Perhaps I'll try again.

Bill/Bonk. I'll get back to part two of my Southern Ontario music quiz before too long. You know I was thinking what with me being the incredibly modest and self-effacing person that I am, that if I were to make the quiz only ostensibly about music but ultimately about me, it might just prove to be a heck of a lot more challenging AND entertaining for all concerned. NB

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Kevin J

Steve's fav ex President..... Jimmy Carter, in a March 1989 Op-Ed article in The New York Times titled "Rushdie's Book Is an Insult," Carter argued that "The Satanic Verses" was guilty of "vilifying" Muhammad and "defaming" the Koran. "The author, a well-versed analyst of Moslem beliefs, must have anticipated a horrified reaction throughout the Islamic world," Carter wrote. While condemning the death sentence and affirming Rushdie's right to free speech, the former president argued that "we have tended to promote him and his book with little acknowledgment that it is a direct insult to those millions of Moslems whose sacred beliefs have been violated and are suffering in restrained silence the added embarrassment of the Ayatollah's irresponsibility."

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dlew919

Steve - I read them some years back - I must have missed your post. There's a long tradition of Islamic writing from which they come: like all fundamentalists (of any religion) the history, traditions and culture from where they came was ignored. I didn't think they were woeth the fuss. Rushdie has written better books (not that it was bad ...)

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Peter V

Shrove Tuesday comes from the verb “to shrive” which means “to impose a penance so as to eliminate your sins” which is what people did at Lent, the penance being to abstain from meat (and in the Middle Ages, sex). I don’t think “shrove” is the past tense, but “shriven” is the past participle, so maybe it runs shrive / shrove / shriven? It appears in the old rhyme “This is the house that Jack built” in the lines:

This is the cock that crew in the morn

That woke the priest all shriven and shorn.

The priest was shriven because he had served his penances.

Here endeth the lesson.

In South London, BMW was said to stand for a potentially racist description due to the great popularity of the BMW 3-series with Afro-Caribbean young people. The W stood for “wheels”.

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Joan

That website looks like fun. I don't have time now, but I'll definitely check it out more closely. Thanks

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rosalind

Great site! I'm Stumbling around in the stumbleupon again

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Kevin J

When Bon Marley was questioned about why he drove a BMW, he just shrugged and said “I always thought BMW stood for Bob Marley and the Wailers”

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David P.

Buck Owens & His Buckaroos played Carnegie Hall in 1966, where they recorded a famous live album.

Head Deadhead Jerry Garcia apparently favored BMWs. In one infamous incident, he was arrested for drug possession in Golden Gate Park in his BMW.

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Kevin J

Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.....is just an example of an appropriation of a culture while discarding just about everything it stood for. Kind of like a metrosexual voting against gay marriage......The punks went relatively easy on Rod Stewart because they saw that he was just a former ditch digger that wanted to sleep with as many blondes as possible.....as such, the “rooster” look making it into Vogue magazine was ok. As soon as punk was in the pages of vogue and a uniform was made official, the movement was over. By the way, Tipper Gore has made claim to being a deadhead.

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rosalind

No thank you! Good site underneath link.

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Joan

Being Jewish, its not my holiday, but I always knew it as Shrove Tuesday, which translate to "Fat Tuesday" The reason I've been told,is you must remove (use up) all the "fat" before Lent. We Jewish kids always had to remind ourselves on Ash Wednesday, not to say "You've got dirt on your forehead"

Peter, your Cadillac description reminds me of my 1973 Duster. I used to describe it as a bowl of green Jello with a steering wheel stuck in it. :-D

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joie s

Subject: He may be shy but he's talkin' to TIME

Adam, Why don't you just ask Van yourself?

see link (in case link does not work google TIME magazine ask Van)

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Steve

Roz how does it feel to be a member in good standing with the Grand Old Hip Hop Party?

I'm going to check in with Mannix and those other meatheads and see what they're take on it is. It might be too early to check though, as one of the deep thinkers said, he just waits for Hannity to tell him what to think of things like Obama's speech. It may take Hannity quite awhile to explain the meaning of this embrace of Hip Hop, or even what Hip Hop is to that bunch that obviously don't get out a lot. These are mind expanding times in GOP land.

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westcoaster

Subject: Bumper Stickers & Northern Buoy & Kristie

Bumper Stickers????? Now some of these are pretty damn ...Risquette???? Girl in Vancouver in a Corvette convertible in big letters on her bumper, "If you can beat me - you can eat me". Now what if her Dad drives up behind her. Girl in a big Silverado in Courtenay on her tailgate, "If you're gonna ride my ass - at least pull my hair". What's with these young women???

Northern Buoy & Kristie, on April 3 we do a big jam session in the Legion in Surrey. I think it's on 108 Avenue, just a couple blocks off the King George HWY in Surrey. I got to call Eddie to be sure of the avenue. He called me last night to tell me the date.

Probably around 50 musicians some of them bands. It's the Ray McCauley memorial tribute, done every spring. My brother Lorne, Eddy, Wayne Bassett on fiddle and key boards, JC Cadeau on steel guitar and Brian Larson on bass. We also sometimes get others in with us.

Starts, I think about 2 pm on a Sunday afternoon, and goes 'till about 10 pm. A pretty good afternoon of music, if you are interested.

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Peter V

That short tirade reminded me of a visit to Florida … second half of the eighties, I think. We went to the car rental place to pick up the "full-size" we'd ordered for a family of five. The guy on the desk said 'You can have a Cadillac for an extra $10 a week. Special deal." Right, I thought. I'll have one of those. My mind was on Elvis, so I hadn't realized that it was only driven by geriatics by that date. I was a dumb foreigner. It was also just about the worst car I've ever driven in terms of control or going in the direction it was pointed. That car didn't know what a corner was. You got seasickness on a straight road from the wallowing about. Awful. Now I see the argument! A Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac implies that deadheads lack taste, and that's what offended you.

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Peter V

Deadhead stickers on Cadillacs Which bit bothers you? Bumper stickers per se? I see the argument. Bad for road safety. People try to read them at the wheel. People take exception. It’s a potential cause for aggro. The same argument holds true for not revealing your state of origin on license plates, but it does make the world more colourful.

Deadheads … yep, I can see that one too. Just being Deadheads is mildly offensive to some people, but not to me personally. I accept that some people liked to take drugs and listen to 40 minute jam sessions.

Cadillacs? Would that be a 1955 pink one with big fins? That’s cool. Or maybe a 2008 saloon with airbed slushy suspension? Definitely a touch of grey for the driver of such an ill-favoured automobile. Or would it be an Escalade as beloved of English footballers? Quite an offensive vehicle in several ways, ugliness being a greater offence than any others.

Or is it that Cadillacs were at one time a “posh” car? Hardly nowadays, surely? I thought the wealthy had eschewed the Cadillac as a vehicle of choice by the mid-70s, until those mighty four-wheel drives arrived in recent years.

Of course, Chuck Berry was at the commercial end of R&B. But for me "commercial" is not perjorative. Just a fact. He had Top Twenty hits. Ask Homer Banks how many top ten hits he had.

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westcoaster

Subject: Carnegie Hall

Bob and David both good answers. I remember Bill Haley playing, then of course when the beatles came.

My reason for the question? The other day while sitting in a restaurant, I was reading one of those little coffee news papers. They have a quize in them. One of the questions was, who was the first rock band to play Carnegie Hall. The answer was Chicago. I thought, now who was the dimwit who came up with that answer.

Interestingly, Wikipedia says there were others before, buts doesn't give any names, only Bill Haley in '55. Then there is some rumour of a ban until the Beatles in '64. However some one who is an archivist at Carnegie says the ban was never heard of there.

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Kevin J

Thoughts of the great Dave Davies line "It wasn’t called heavy metal when I invented it” come to mind with the dismissal of The Ramones as being at the “extreme commercial end of punk” After inventing the genre, should they not have been allowed to benefit commercially? Deadhead stickers on Cadillac’s bothers me much more than end of line punkers trying to cash in! “My Ding a Ling” was huge in Bermuda......some old timers in shorts and knee socks are still heard dismissing Chuck Berry as being at the extreme commercial end of Rock n Roll......

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rosalind

For anyone who doesn't know the origins of the flipping

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David P.

The Beatles later played there in 1964.
Ernest Tubb was the first country act to headline at Carnegie Hall in 1947. His legendary opening comment was: "My, my, this place sure could hold a lot of hay". Some might say that it could also hold a lot of that hay by-product produced by horses. :-)

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bob w.

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westcoaster

Subject: One too many a mornin'

Awright!!!! What're you low down - no good - sons a........ doin?? How's every body?

On Waylon...... If I'd knowed I was gonna live this long I'd a took better care of myself.

On Barack Obama .... very intelligent, carismatic young guy, but every time he talks he sounds like a cheer leader to me. What has changed? Republicans & Democrats still fightin'. Young Louisiana Guv. tells him to take his money and stick it! ......my-my-my.

I been working like hell. The resession hasn't hit me yet. When I get off the boat running from one house to another. Got to move in July.

Now here it is...Powell River at the top of an area known as the "Sunshine Coast" has the most moderate climate in Canada. I like that little town, about 18,000 people around there all pretty laid back. The town sprawls along the beach. Not too awful many tourists, so it's good. A little too wet a lot of the year where I'm at.

So.......

Down the street the doga are barkin'

And the day's a-gettin'dark.

As the night comes in a-fallin'

The dogs 'll loose their bark

An' the silent night will shatter

From the sounds inside my mind,

For I'm one too many a mornings

And a thousand miles behind.

Y'all keep up the good work of ranting away about nothing of any consequence and keep the music flowing.

I've always been crazy and the trouble that it put me thru!! from Waylon

Oh yeah I forgot Northern Buoy!! who was the first rock band to play Carnegie Hall and what year????? Y'all just jump in here if you know, 'cause he don't know nothin'.

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DEE

Subject: Willie

Joe J. and David P.

So many Willie albums and tapes in my collection except the IRS one. And I love Phases and Stages.

Nowadays I sing (to myself) "Yesterday's wine, aging with time, like yesterday's wine."

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David P.

My favorite Willie Nelson album has to be "Phases and Stages" on Atlantic. It features one of Willie's best lines (from "It's Not Supposed To Be That Way):

"But be careful what you're dreamin'
Or soon your dreams will be dreamin' you"

It's going to be a Van Morrison vinyl weekend for me, as I finally got a copy of the 2-LP version of "Astral Weeks: Live At The Hollywood Bowl". Will also be playing the new Warner LP reissues of "Astral Weeks", "Moondance" and "His Band & Street Choir". It's too late to stop now :-)

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Friend0

Peter's typo replacing an n with an r in the subject line of his post just one or two posts down.

Thank you Peter, and thank you empty, for providing the proper title for as momentuous an occassion as this.

How the mighty have fallen! Could this lead to selling ESL books on Kindle? Actually, sincerely, I hope not.

In some ways the Kindle phenomena bears similarities to digital and cds appearing way back when. SOME WAYS. Not every way. Just a few.

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Brien Sz

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Peter V

Simply listen to Van doing "You Don't Know Me".

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Empty Now

Subject: Bill M / Steve / Jeff

Bill M: I was the first one to jump on the Good Friday post the day you posted it

Steve, i haven’t read The Satanic Verses, conversely i read greedily his other book “The Ground Beneath Her Feet” an ode in honor of Freddy Mercury and Cat Stevens
According to a very clever friend of mine, the only reason the hit was put out on, it’s this scene from the book : during his exile in Neauphle-le-Chateau, Khomeini’s hobby was to throw darts-game needles on a portrait of Princess Farah Dibah. What was reproached to Rushdie was more a crime of lese majesty, than a crime of ideas.
As the sole competent authority in The Band related political matters I trust in, you should know that often political elimination is personal. No political elimination can stop ideas. The UK colossal effort to protect the person of Rushdie is henceforth a milestone in Universal History

. Talking of political elimination, for the record by St-Augustine day of 1959, in the big Salon des Portraits of the Elysées Palace, as President Eisenhower severely blamed President De Gaulle for not having been able to protect the 67-year-old Senator such as his VIP status required, a fortiori in war time. To what President De Gaulle answered "it would have been very difficult to me to assure the protection of the 67-year-old-senator, he always refused any form of close protection or bodyguards” – some men are just as great in their life as in their death.

PutEmUp(Jeff0 : very funny, but since the fuck-pack adresses the sacro-powerful SIP who must have relatives in Pittsburg, you just come to make yourself guilty of crime of lese-majesty [and so was Lars btw], though SIP must know your political ideas definitely clamped …and English a very hard to learn language

Adam: Van is an introvert person…

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

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rosalind

sigh

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Claire

"If it sounds country, man, that's what it is. It's a country song." Kris Kristofferson

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joe j

"If it sounds country man, that's what it is. It's country music" is the intro to whose version of 'Me & Bobby McGee'?

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joe j

References to the CBGBs and Waylon on the same day deserves the retelling of the time Waylon got booked to play there in the punk heyday. The clientele was giving the band a pretty hard tims as they were tuning up. Waylon had probably seen a rowdy crowd or two before. He strolls on, assesses the situation, growls "Turn up the fucking bass" and launches into 'Not Fade Away'. Had the locals eating out of his hand in no time flat.

Better version of 'Amanda'. Tough call. I've heard it (and danced to it) from so many bad bar bands. Don Williams maybe.

Best (Onliest) version of 'Fine Time to Leave Me) Lucille'. It ain't Kenny Rogers.

THE Waylon album to own: Waylon Live (1999 Buddha reissue).

THE Willie album (for DEE in Wisonsin): Who'll Buy My Memories (The IRS Album)

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rosalind

They understand James, and so do we...

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Adam

I'm looking for some help from the Van experts here... has he ever mentioned his friendship with Richard in any interviews or anything, or commented on him since his death?

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james corsentino

Subject: THANK YOU

Wow....hope Robbie, Garth or Levon reads this...I'm a recent rabid fan of The Band---which i find absurd since i'm a musician who just turned 40. Where have you been all my life??! (grin) You have inspired my playing and writing more than you can ever imagine. Your body of work is an inspiration to anyone with a soul. Thank you from the bottom of my heart---it's hard to put into words. I hope (suspect) you understand.

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Bill M

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Peter V

Last Sunday. Tesco supermarket. Two women talking.

When's Pancake day?

This week.

Yeah, but which day of the week?

I dunno.

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rosalind

Hunter S. Thompson's long lost Scooby-Do episode

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Steve

No one here gave an opinion so I guess I might be the only one who's read it. You got a guess as to the problem?

I always loved pancake day, it was three different pancake meals which was kinda cool for a day, and right in the middle of the week. We only ever had pancakes on the weekend.

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David P.

And there's also "Back Up Against The Wall", the title song from the Atlanta Rhythm Section's 1973 Decca album, written by Buddy Buie & J.R. Cobb. Band connection: A cover version by Travis Tritt was included on the soundtrack to "Fire Down Below", the Steven Seagal film that featured Levon as Reverend Bob Goodall.

Kevin J: There's another talented Garth in the world of country music. I not talking about Mr. Brooks, but rather the Nashville producer Garth Fundis, who has worked with many country artists, including Emmylou Harris. He also sang the beautiful high-harmony part on both the Don Williams and Waylon Jennings versions of "Amanda".

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Bill M

Empty N: Somewhere in the middle of your longish 'quiet' period (thankfully now ended), I posted about finding - at an Arab grocery store we go to every few months - a Fairuz CD with all four of the Good Friday songs from my '60s EP and six others that seem to be similarly themed. (I even bought an extra just in case I meet someone who seems likely to appreciate it.) Although I'm an atheist I'm listening to it right now - likely because the run-up to Easter started yesterday with Pancake Tuesday - plus of course I love the music and her voice.

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Peter V

If you really want "Up Against the wall" slogans you should be listening to Jefferson Airplane, on Volunteers, not The Ramones.

It's (or rather was in 1969) the "real thing."

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Peter V

Don’t you think the fact that people wear Ramones T-shirts defines where the Ramones were at? The extreme commercial end of punk? Sex Pistols T-shirts and Ramones T-shirts. And their best known track in the UK is a cover of Baby I Love You that they disowned themselves.I just re-listened to it. I'd disown it myself too. S for shite.

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Kevin J

Thank you Joan. An excellent article on L. Cohen.

dlew: Your observations about the wall are spot on. One sentence to sum up the madness of life - not bad. Ever notice how many little brats are called Dylan and how few are called Garth? Not the Great Man's fault of course as he knew from the beginning that being that popular meant allowing the unconverted in. Kurt Cobain blew his brains out when he realized the people he hated growing up were buying his albums. A little too sensitive perhaps.........

On dvd’s and talk of The Ramones..…..allow me to once again mention “New York Doll” – also a top 10 rock doc that even people turned off by Buster would enjoy – very much. Highly recommended.

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Steve

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Joan

Subject: Leonard Cohen

For all the Leonard Cohen fans from the NY Times.

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CHAD FISHER

Subject: SHOCK AND AWE

AS A YOUNGSTER IN A MUSICAL FAMILY IN 1969 MY FATHER TURNED ME ON TO THE UNIQUE AND ALMOST CARNIVAL LIKE SOUNDS OF THE BAND.THIS HAS LED TO A LIFELONG FACINATION AND RESPECT TOWARDS THESE QUIRKY YET TALENTED GROUP OF ARTISTS.I WAS VERY LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE BAND AT THE 1985 MARITIME REUNION FESTIVAL IN CANMORE AB, I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO LEVON AND WAS GIVEN A GUITAR PICK BY RICK. RICHARD WAS RESTING UP BEFORE THE GIG AND WAS A VERY INTERESTING PERSON TO TALK TO.I HOPE THAT EVERY MUSICIAN OUT THERE CAN AND WILL INCORPORATE A LITTLE OF THE BAND'S ZEST FOR THE WRITTEN NOTE,MY LIFE HAS BEEN AN AMAZING JOURNEY OF LEARNING AND PLAYING AND NEVER BEING AFRAID OF BENDING THAT NOTE. THANKS TO LEE,RICK,GARTH,RICHARD AND ROBBIE ALWAYS A FAN CHAD K FISHER

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dlew919

I find it hilarious when you see the spoiled children of petit bourgeois wearing Ramones and che t-shirts. 95% of them would be up against the wall, come the revolution.

Kevin J.: Absolutely agree with you regarding 'End of the Century' - in fact, I'd go so far to say that it is one of the few rock documentaries that is essential viewing.

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Joan

Thanks for the photo montage. I too like the musical choice. I'm just starting to warm up after seeing that . :-D They are having a polar bear plunge here in Hempstead Harbor this weekend.

Jeff: I liked Woven Roots. Speaking of BEG, has anyone heard from her?

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bob w.

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

For Angelina, my cousin's current band. These kids got lucky, and got themselves a great drummer (Probably his new babies play with their babies).

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Empty Now

Subject: great Rock bands v/s big money

Bill M : if i understand your comment, the Middle-East is everywhere Fairuz is great… I will investigate where the Middle-East is
^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^

Linked is a video where The Band GBers can watch live my favorite CD shop, the mythical place in Constantine where most of my money goes, this is not an ads as you can see a close-up picture of the shop’s name at 0:25
It’s also strongly The Band related, I used to be famous for a whole generation of sympathetic vendors in that shop under the qualifier “Sheikh who likes The Last Waltz”
I would just like to intervene concerning the passage of my preferred CD dealer on FR3, that is the French public TV. Apparently Marie Drucker considered useful on a public service financed by the French taxpayers to invite a salesman of chansoniers from Constantine come explain them that hurdy-gurdies songs are better sold than the new songs…
let it to the Swedish Internet Police do it an issue

Steve, the festive ambiance you see is not that of the everyday in Constantine, it was the day Sarkozy came,
...as long as Obama is The Band Connected, why Sarkozy not

Kevin raises a more challenging tip, where the Universe is ?,

I will investigate, but I suspect that it started in Constantine

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Charlie Y

Hot on the heels of the eight Academy Awards for the set-in-India film, "Slumdog Millionaire," it's interesting the Republicans picked young Indian-American Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal as the voice of their opposition tonight following the president's address to a joint session of Congress. I don't think he'll win any awards for his response to Obama's speech, though he's certainly a pleasant change from the party which brought us Tom DeLay and Trent Lott.

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Landmark

Thanks Brien. Love the irony of the music which both tunes are faves of mine. It also confirms why I don't visit there in the winter even though I have standing invitation for skiing at nearby Gore Mountain. By the way, Opening Day is later than usual this year. The meet runs July 29 to September 7. How's the cottage coming along?

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Brien Sz

As many of you know, I spend a fair amount of time in the Adirondacks of NY. I enjoy doing photography in the winter. And every year a friend of mine, who shoots stock out of Boston, get together to do a few days of winter shooting. Most of it is the Ice fishing culture but on one day we happened to catch the local Polar Bear Club do their annual plunge. The link above is to a short slide show w/ music to the event.., enjoy.

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Mike

Subject: Ramones.

Caugth the Ramones @ the '96 Lallapalooza tour in VT w/ Soundgarden. Great show.

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Kristie

I would have to disagree and say The Ramones are fairly well known by adults and young folk alike. That being said, I can't see them being known(or liked) enough to make that list. But thanks to the mass produced Ramones t-shirts, people at least know the name and maybe a few songs. Like "Rock n' Roll" high school!" Anyone seen that movie?

Speaking of mass produced t-shirts, I heard a girl say to her boyfriend(while he was talking on his cellphone to someone about the upcoming film "Che,")"is it about that guy on that shirt you have?" Egad.

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Steve

Roz thanks for the link to that web forum of your peers. Wow!

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

Subject: Just Smile, by Mike Kimmel

More lat enite music band. Obviosuly there a bunch up. This all gos back to 1980.

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

Subject: Finger Magic by Lincoln Schleifer

Lincoln has played some Rambles when Mike hasn't been available. Just played on Jorma's new record also.

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

Subject: Mook by Rob Leon

More late night music band

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PutEmUp(Jeff0

Subject: The Cows Are Hungry - Stevon Farm i hope you take heed

My cousin Mike Kimmel's old band. Late Night Music Band. The late Rob Leon on guitar, Lincoln Schleifer on bass, Larry Smith on Keys and other things.

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Brien Sz

*****Ramones

****1/2 Leave Home

***** Rocket to Russia

***1/2 Road to Ruin

**** It's Alive

*** End of the Century

** Pleasant Dreams

** Subterranean Jumgle

*1/2 Too Tough to Die

**** Ramones Mania

*** Loco Live

**1/2 Acid Eaters

** Greatest Hits Live

***1/2 Hey Ho Let's Go

*** Loud Fast Ramones: Their Toughest Hits

***1/2 NYC 1978

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jh

Subject: The Ramones

FYI: The webmaster has been known to sport a classic Ramones t-shirt (link above) every now and then. As the bass player of local sort-of-punk outfit Lappzköwz, he was a major Ramones fan in his pre-Band youth and even saw Da Bruddas live in Oslo in 1980 -- a show that was cut short by local punks storming the stage and taking over the instruments :-)

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JTull Fan

I always confuse the producer Phil Ramone with the Ramones of The Ramones.

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Kevin J

Multiple voting and the measurement of ‘hits to a website”.......just wondering what percentage of Richard’s 58.15% that Ari was responsible for?.......This just in: Jimmy Carter and Obama are closing in on Garth’s 48.42% thanks to that mad fan of Townes Van Zandt

By the way………the Ramones dvd “End of the Century” is superb viewing.

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Peter V

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David P.

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Peter V

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rosalind

lies a body

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rosalind

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Kevin J

Subject: The Ramones

"The KKK Took My Baby Away"........... Leftie Joey's little ditty about right wing Johnny having stolen his girlfriend! The title alone put them on fastrack to my RRHOF.

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Bill M

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David P.

Melissa Leo, like John McCain, lost. Kate Winslet won the Oscar for Best Actress.

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Peter V

The universe? Not just Britain & The USA, or North America? Or even The Earth? I guess Ziggy Stardust & The Spiders From Mars, or The Spotniks perhaps.

There’s a pub quiz question (which like so many pub quiz questions might be bullshit) but it’s “Which is the second best-selling rock group of the 1960s?” The answer is supposed to be The Ventures, because of sales outside English-speaking countries.

Actually, I’m sure ABBA are well ahead of several in the list, and should be top three.

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bassmanlee

I don't know what rock you crawled out from under, Ben but please go back under it and review the archives.

At no time did I ever express any support whatsoever for George W. Bush, his administration, his wars, policies, staffing decisions, or any aspect of his existence, and I challenge you to cite evidence that I did.

Just because I can be civil to people I disagree with does not make me sympathetic to their political or religions positions.

And it's one word, no upper case. For the record.

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Bill M

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David P.

Bill M: As producer for the Byrds, on such work as "Mr. Tambourine Man" and "Turn, Turn, Turn", Terry Melcher also helped put folk-rock on the map. He also introduced Van Dyke Parks to Brian Wilson. Of course, Doris Day's son was also unfortunately linked to Charles Manson, no thanks to Dennis Wilson.

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Kevin J

Only The Ramones and Aretha stand out as being absurd inclusions in a “universally popular” list. Substitute Santana and perhaps a GB fav like Abba and the list would be pretty accurate. By the way the universe does include more than just Britain and USA………….

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Steve

Tull, I'm starting to think you're on to something, Obama may just be remembered, when he's done, as being "Bush Lite". Though unlike Bush's gang, these people didn't make it into the cabinet. In the Bush adm. these kind of theives were the rule , not the exception, and they thrived.

Roz, what exactly is your complaint with Jimmy. You throw out the well worn but not backed by much if any evidence right wing accusations about Jimmy. How about something of substance.

I would have thought Jimmy's religious insanity would have put him in your good book.

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Peter V

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Kevin J

Sean: Stats don’t just lie sometimes they swear.....I would think the reason that Robbie Robertson is at 33% while the others are at 50%-60% is that he is almost always referred to here as RR or JR2 and not Robbie R. With that factored in, I would think that his references would rank with Levon’s just a tad below Rick’s.

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rosalind

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Bill M

Bob W: Because you titled your post "Travels with Charlie", I now see Charlie Y dressed in a suit and sitting on one end of a teeter-totter. Only he can say if that's better than being seen as Steinbeck's dog. It also leads me to think of Greene's "Travels with my Aunt", and so to Greg Godovitz's "Travels with my Amp" - with its links to Levon and the Hawks.

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bob w.

Charlie, if you get to spend some time in that area come Autumn, be sure to check out World's End State Park. Head north on Rte 87, I'm guessing forty miles or so. The golden maples that line the Loyalsock Creek will have you thinking you are walking through a Maxfield Parrish painting. By the way, you will pass through Hillsgrove, PA (don't blink) where my paternal grandfather was Justice of the Peace for many years. The town of Eagles Mere is a great spot to spend the night once you are in that neck of the woods.

We interrupt this travelogue to return you to your regularly scheduled discussion.

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JTull Fan

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David P.

It was another Robbie Robertson, a Washington police lieutenant, who was a story consultant for the "Streetwalkin'" film. The Band's Robbie did receive "special thanks" in the credits for the 2000 film "Dancing At The Blue Iguana. This film about strip club dancers featured Daryl Hannah, Jennifer Tilly and Sandra Oh. Robbie's song "Unbound" was used in the soundtrack.

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Bill M

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Brien Sz

The above link directs you to the list of the most "universally loved" rock acts of all-time. The list does not surprise me.

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rosalind

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Charlie Y

Bob: thanks for the tip on that restaurant. I should be coming here regularly and it seems like an area with a lot of character.

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bob w.

Do you get up that way often? There's some beautiful country out in Lycoming County and the surrounding area.

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Steve

Roz, you can usually evaluate a person's worth and level of integrity by the degree you ratchet your insults to. You're putting Jimmy up there close to sainthood. Why don't you give him another go.

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Empty Now

Subject: correction

in my previous post, read

"in the vein of a Xanthos in quest of a Aesop"

instead of

"in the vein of a Iadmon in quest of a Aesop"

why did i post Iadmon? who was Iadmon?

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rosalind

Can anyone here confirm that Robbie was a "story consultant" on this gritty, true to life story of pimps and hookers? It came out in 86. Apparently, New Academy Award winner Melissa Leo was in it. I've never seen it. Melissa Leo is lovely. She reminds me somewhat of Vivica Lindfors.

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dlew919

The Stones a couple of years back did a show in the Enmore Theatre - a small 500 seater in the inner suburbs of Sydney: by all accounts, brilliant. But to get tickets you had to be a member of the Fan club. Though i'm not a member, it seemed eminently fair. Still, scalpers were selling tickets for 1000 AUD ...

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Charlie Y

Speaking of Buffalo Springfield, I drove up to Williamsport, Pennsylvania tonight for work reasons and covered a good chunk of the trip with the recent double-CD live release from Richie Furay. He reprises lots of the best songs of Buffalo Springfield--his own as well as some penned by Stills and Young--and they've never sounded better. It's a great collection of fine performances. He does delve into a bit of preaching (not too surprising since he's been a minister for the last twenty years) but his voice and spirit are truly transcendent. Unlike Stills and Young, it's REALLY hard to dislike the guy.

Good point on "Good Thing." That is one of Terry Melcher's masterpieces of production. That band may not be judged as worthy for Jann Wenner's Rock'n'Roll Sham of Fame, but any club that includes Madonna doesn't know a flying crap about rock'n'roll anyway...

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rosalind

"NEVER FORGET: tHE BAND DID COME OUT FOR JIMMIE CARTER IN 1976"

Hopefully, that's only because the asshole with the teeth was from Georgia! That was a more innocent time but "coming out" for Carter was to their shame anyway. Of Course, they didn't know who that guy was really, did they? They didn't know he was going to give the Panama Canal away, They didn't know he was pathetic and made out of jello and they didn't know he was going to ultimately get caught with his tongue up some insane Korean dictator's ass!

Have you "come out" yet Pike? I know Texas ain't exactly kind to Milk-men .. sorry... Have you tried that EXtenzz or whatever. I know you're a "teeny weenie" as you've already allowed that to slip

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Jan F.

Just checking in . . .

Hey Lars!

Jan F.

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Seán

Subject: Oops - try this

Put the site address in the top box, and the OQ's names in the box underneath, to see their relative popularity on the site.

This is the result:

Term Hits

Rick 2560 (62.29%)

Richard 2390 (58.15%)

Levon 2110 (51.34%)

Garth 1990 (48.42%)

Robbie 1360 (33.09%)

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Seán

Subject: Popularity of OQ on this site

Thought this was interesting....

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Lars

Subject: MY copy of Hamlet ("Smoked Bacon")

HAMLET: "There's a divinity that shapes our ends, rough-hew them how we will."

HORATIO: (looking distraught, lights up a fattie and takes a VERY deep toke) "Say (ahem)...(cough).. Say what?"

(Hamlet, deep in thought, continues. Horatio keeps smoking his joint and only says, "You're right" about every ten seconds, not understanding one word from Hamlet. His smile gets bigger and he sits on the wall, rocking back and forth. A close-up shows that he's a dead ringer for Eddie Murphy.)

("She-eeet.")

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Friend0

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Still Ben Pike

Subject: Repub dunces

Oh yeah, Tull Fan, this Burris thing has me really terrified. Nice job with your hero Bush by the way, you idiotic abuse of The Clinton White house brought us war lost and finical ruin, all cheered on by numskulls like Ros and Bassman Lee. Now you have the NERVE to say word one about decent people trying to clean up your mess. Get stuffed. Roz, I hate MSNB too, you think I'm going to forgive Matthews for all those years he spent sucking up to your war monger prez? Not a chance... we do have ethics over on THIS side. NEVER FORGET: THE BAND CAME OUT FOR JIMMY CARTER IN 76, if only the right wing media hadn't destroyed this good man and listened to what he had to say about energy, then Roz, Bassman Lee, and Tull Fan would not have so much blood on their hands.

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Kristie

Subject: Thank you Peter

I found a link for a Leonard Cohen forum that if you are registered for, you may be eligible for the pre-sale. Not sure if this will apply to me but it may to anyone else in the Gb who is thinking about going.

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Kevin J

"There's a divinity that shapes our ends, Rough-hew them how we will."

Appreciate the information on Isbell, David. I did not know about the new release....

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Peter V

The fan club priority idea was dne for Canadian concerts. I think there was something in the UK. But it might be like some British theatre tickets "Friends of the Theatre" (who pay an annual sub) can book a day in advance. But when they had (e.g.) Jude Law in Hamlet tickets on sale, only Friends who had been friends for more than two months got the chance to book early.

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David P.

Kevin J: I too miss Jason Isbell in the Drive-By Truckers lineup. But have no fear, Mr. Isbell and his current outfit, The 400 Unit, released a fine new album last week, which was recorded at FAME Studios in Muscle Shoals. It is available on CD and vinyl from Lightning Rod Records.

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Kevin J

* The sound of stock markets plummeting

* My room circa 1973 after seeing Raquel Welch in a Midnite movie…………….

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Landmark

Subject: That Boing Sound

Also featured prominently on Todd Rundgren's "Zen Archer".

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Bill M

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Landmark

Thank you David for the further info. Your mention of Paul Revere and The Raiders reminds me of a couple of things. First off, I like them and am convinced that because of their stage costumes, they didn't get the respect they deserved becuase they looked "gimmicky". Secondly, the song "Good Thing" which is a big fave, has to be the greatest marriage of early Rolling Stones raunch with soaring Beach Boy like harmonies. I also remember reading that they started off as being Idaho's answer to The Hawks and I have gone to former guitarist Drake Levin's webpage. Definitely a group to be explored deeper.

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Kevin J

David P: Thank you for the clarification on the ticket prices. I probably should have checked a little closer but saw two or three different accounts of the $750 price an just assumed that it was artist set. Interesting that “scalpers” and the practise of scalping - now that it has been made legitimate - is far worse than it was when the overweight hockey sweater wearing guys with bad teeth that hung out at the corner ran the show!

By the way, your mention of Hood Sr. reminded me that I saw the Drive by Truckers on Austin City Limits on the weekend. Maybe because I came to them late but I have a hard time watching/listening without Jason Isbell.

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K

I can't believe I am going to have to pay that much to see Leonard! Oh, well. From what I hear it will be worth it(granted I am not in the nosebleed seats). What is this pre-sale for the fan club? Peter V do you know anything about this? And where do I sign up?

I better get a forth job.

Joe J-You should go see Neil! For me it was still great seeing the guy, as I said he is one of my favorites. And behind all the guitar reverberation, and songs about cars, and if you can get past him asking Death Cab to open for him(although I think they may be finished and Wilco is doing the remaining dates), you can still see a love of the music, and occasionally, glimpses of joy in performing.

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David P.

Landmark: Linda Ronstadt also covered "I Knew You When" on her 1982 album "Get Closer". Billy Joe Royal's version, also released as a single, was included on his fine 1965 album "Down In The Boondocks", featuring the hit version of the title song also written by Mr. South. Freddy Weller was a member of Mr. Royal's band back then, later joining Paul Revere & The Raiders as lead guitarist. Mr. Weller had a successful solo career in country music and recorded a nice cover of "Up On Cripple Creek" in 1970 (see link).

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Landmark

Bill when I read your post Friday re:SDITILY, I was wondering if you were writing about thw same "paisley pop" tune by the Mojo Men. Since we both have a certain fodness for "slush pop", "Bondi Junction" excluded, I was trying to figure out how you tied it in to "Jemima Surrender". A bit too much time on my hands today led me to the Buffalo Springfield version. I was surprised to find out it was written by Steven Stills. On Youtube, there are a couple of other versions including one by Donny Osmond who also covered my favourite "I Knew You When" which as David P. has told us, was written by Joe South and performed by the one and only Billy Joe Royal. Of course my mention of the venerable "Bondi Junction" means that time is fast approaching for Richie Hebner's annual appearance in the GB. Come out of the cave Abby, I know you're a fan!

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David P.

Subject: L. Cohen News

Kevin J: Word is that it's ticket brokers who are driving up the prices of Leonard Cohen tickets far above the face value ($65-$250). As with other acts similarly affected, the artist does not receive the excess amount.

NPR (National Public Radio) has been reporting on this situation since Mr. Cohen began touring again for the first time in many years. As he is playing in medium-sized venues, demand is far exceeding the number of tickets available, which have been scooped up by ticket brokers.

"In an effort to fight ticket brokers" Mr. Cohen's management & Columbia Records is allowing NPR to make a recording of the entire Feb. 19 Beacon performance available as a stream/podcast beginning Feb. 26, for a one month period. (see link)

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Bill M

Further to what I was saying last week, I wonder if Robbie stuck the bit from "Sit Down I Think I Love You" into the alternate take of "Jemima Surrender" just to say that he recognised how opposite the songs are re romance: "Sit down I think I love you / Anyway, I'd like to try" versus "Jemima surrender / I'm going to give it to you".

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David P.

Maybe Robbie's too preoccupied working on that "non-traditional Broadway musical" featuring Native American song & dance that he's been talking about for around five years or so.

Meanwhile, Eric Clapton recenting announced a joint tour with Steve Winwood.

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Kevin J

“Will people in the cheaper seats clap your hands? All the rest of you just rattle your jewellery”.........John Lennon may have been at the Beacon had he been alive.....at least he would have been able to afford the ticket charge! $750 per ticket to see L.Cohen last week. That pension fund that his manager ran off with is well on its way to being replenished, I would think. That said, 9 months in and still doing 3 ½ hours a night. Bravo to him.

Glad to see the New York Post – a rag that thought it funny last week to run a dead ape in a cartoon as commentary on the new President’s stimulus package actually sent someone to cover a concert. Then again at $750 a pop the crowd would most likely have resembled a Republican get-together…..

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rosalind

Oh Yeah, last year during the big Dirt Farmer Grammy dust-up, after all the accolades were given out one of Robbie's daughter's wrote a letter to the LA Times asking people to ignore all the disrespect, negativity and right out lies coming from the Helm camp. Seems every time someone shines a public light on Levon Helm he's desperately attempting to resuscitate the decomposing corpse of his favorite dead horse again. Don't know why he didn't just stuff it and set it up in the middle of his barn like Dale and Roy did when Trigger died.

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Peter V

I was always told that ability at table tennis is a sign of a misspent youth. i.e. in church youth clubs.

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Kevin J

On Pool: My experience is that 90% of the musicians I know are above average pool players. In contrast, most of the athletes I know, having spent more time in gyms and playing fields rather than bars and pool halls, are well below average pool players. Don’t know for sure but my hunch would be that Rick, Robbie, Levon and Ronnie Hawkins are/would have been very good pool players. Ping Pong is an entirely different matter.......On football...less than 5% of males whether they be jocks, musicians or politicians can throw a football properly!

Dylan's shoes: James Brown wore similar shoes and he moved well.

Great pictures of that 74 tour - by the way.

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Peter V

The secondhand DVD market is weird (as is the DVD market). Unlike CDs, manufacturers do not keep most DVDs "continually in print" so many disappear for a year or two and are then reissued. During their "out of print" time, price rises as it always will for the unobtainable.Unlike CDs, there is a less steady, less regulated secondhand market with no price predictor (which the Rare Record Guide, Goldmine or Record Collector provide for vinyl and CD). So if you really want an out of print DVD, you have to pay what's been asked … there's less competition. The phenomenon can been seen most clearly with classic Disney. They let them go out of print every so often, and then keep them out for four or five years before issuing a "newly restored" version. So Sleeping Beauty (in the UK edition) was £15. It disappeared. My daughter was looking everywhere for a copy and they were hitting £50 or £60 on eBay. Then I found one in a charity shop for £1. That's how it goes. Six months later it was reissued for £12. But if you want something out of print, it's what it's worth to you.

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David P.

Joe J: That Boz Scaggs Atlantic album did feature both Eddie Hinton & Duane Allman, with Jimmy Johnson on rhythm guitar, Barry Beckett on keyboards, David Hood on bass and Roger Hawkins on drums, from the Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section where the album was recorded. "I'll Be Long Gone" featured a background chorus comprised of Jeannie Green, Donna Thatcher, Mary Holladay, Tracy Nelson, Irma Routen and Joyce Dunn.

Thank you Victoria for sharing those great photos.

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Empty Now

This has nothing to do with anything. There’s a story which is told in the Souks near Constantine, i find so nice that every reader may find it a score

There was a man, let’s call him Mr Shorn for the English and The Band GB exclusive version of the tale, who after a decade of what ‘s of the most Christian marriage did not manage he and his wife to procreate, having consulted all the doctors and paramedical of the Mediterranean in length, in width, in-depth, across, and upside down 180 Degrees, nothing made for it.
Unexpectedly, a day he learned that his wife was pregnant, under the euphoria of moment he went out on the village square and he uttered the solemn oath in public, that the day of the birth of the child, he will stab a sheep with horns of two feet length, and to make it a feast to the poor people of the neighborhood. It’s a highly symbolic around the 3rd world Mediterranean coastline to offer a sheep in holocaust for special events, its horns length is a measure of the consideration you show to your guests.
Nine month later, the child is born, custom ceremonies are proceeded to, soon Mr Shorn remembered that it was the true moment to honor his oath, he went straightaway at the first cattle dealer of the corner, No sheep with horns of two feet length. He next went to the weekly souk, neither. He made the Mediterranean in length, in width, in-depth, across, and upside down 180 Degrees in quest of the rare sheep: No sheep with horns of two feet length he found.
He finally admitted a basic truth one can omit: a sheep with horns of two feet length does not exist.
He was indeed in a no-situation, with no exit, in a total confusion and for the third time, he made the Mediterranean in length…., this time in quest of a wisdom competent authority he trust in, in the vein of a Iadmon in quest of a Aesop, to advise him on the right stand to take. And exactly it is in the island of Samos where he met an old marabout, who received him with the following words of wisdom:
“good morn Mr Shorn, measure the sheep’s horn with the feet of the newborn,
and remember, the next time you’ll make an oath you’ll be torn”

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Leonette Price

Subject: Robbie Robertson

I just purchased the DVD Going Home which is out of print for lack of a better word and I payed 78 dollars for it did I pay to much I dont know because it is a hard to get DVD and it is not a bootleg so what do you think I really enjoyed it and it was of very good quality and Robbie Looked very nice just like I remembered in Mesa with bob and the boys and the Fireworks were awesome Robbie

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Victoria S

I must add too, my husband has followed my footsteps in photography and digital imaging. I find that it has really calmed his soul quite a bit. He too has become incredibly talented- hence why his copyright is on some of the images. We now copyright everything VH Schmitt...

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Victoria S

He and my dad, you could assume, have varying differences when it comes to music and politics, but I did find an old vinyl of Supertramp in an old box so...I told him I'd have my dad sign it for him.

My photography has been a part of my life for 15 years. My goal is to capture the breath and essence of the place I'm in. I'm now all digital, but I find that the media hasn't changed the way I am engulfed in my viewfinder. I'm glad you all have received me well and I thank you.

and for the suspicious... Dad isn't a photographer, just a surfer and now writer it seems. That will be an interesting book that a daughter may want to just sit on a shelf for a while. Depends on how much he remembers!

until tomorrow new friends... Play nice...even about MIA ex-band members.

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rosalind

Was wondering what those stupid white ribbons that the entertainment industry have have been wearing were all about. I looked it up and found out that they're "marriage ribbons" The show sucks too.

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Far East Man

I was at a retreat this weekend and missed the fun. I was thinking that maybe Karen could start a Band sight for Christians that had clear guidelines about morals and lifestyle choices. And she left already. What a shame.....

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luke m

Easy, JQ. We English like to use our feet when we play football.

I'm glad my comments about Janis were taken in the right spirit.. if anyone out there hasn't got Festival Express, it is a real delight.

Steve and David P, Every Grain is so beautiful. Like all great expressions of faith, it offers something to the faithless, or the undecided, too.

I hear the ancient footsteps like the motion of the sea

Sometimes I turn, there's someone there, other times it's only me

I am hanging in the balance of the reality of man

Like every sparrow falling, like every grain of sand.

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Adam

I'm looking for some help from the Van experts here... has he ever mentioned his friendship with Richard in any interviews or anything, or commented on him since his death?

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Joan

Subject: Victoria's photos

I hope Victoria will forgive me for jumping in. Bassmanlee posed a question. I believe this link has the answer. Bull Schmitt appears to be the spouse of a very talented photographer. Good wine and good art photography. A very good combo.

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bassmanlee

Very interesting gallery. Many years ago I aspired to be a photographer, having worked in darkrooms and gone to Vocational School for Printing and Graphic Arts. Ended up going to school to be a shop teacher (which only lasted two years) but in response to an assignment did a series of pictures attempting to capture patterns in everyday life, enlarging them to take then out of context. The grapes and yams and such very much resemble my b&w prints of carrots and grapefruits (the latter shrinkwrapped two to a tray, in b&w their mottled skins making them look like packaged Gas Giants...the former the bizzare "Bunny Love" brand...my favorite was one I though of as "Dorthea Lang Ivy") (Yeah there was some weed around in those days!)

But I'm confused. Are these are your pictures or those of a relative - as many carry a signature mark "Email "Bull" Schmidtt". (Which of course is a joke in and of itself, come to think of it.) Long gone from the photography world, they have the look of real darkroom hands-in-the developer stuff, platinum prints and such. I suppose you can do that all digitally now, but they seem to be from another era. If this is your work and you're hip to that aesthetic, great. But if your Dad is both the photographer AND the drummer in Supertramp...

are we being had? (Stranger things have happened here.) Please clarify!

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joe j

Thanks Kristie. I do believe I'd try to make Neil anyway if I just could. To be continued.

I mentioned Eddie Hinton on that Scaggs song. It's very possible Mr. Allman was as well but I don't have a copy any more. Oh well.

Didn't mean to slag anyone either just that I'm partial to smut.

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Joan

Ahh, Supertramp. I listened to Breakfast in American till I wore the vinyl down.Some of those songs still play in my mental jukebox. Thanks for the link to your Dad's site. I also found your winery site interesting. My cousin used to own land in Paso. Pretty country.

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JQ

Hi Steve -

I think you're right about Dylan looking pretty lame as a ping-pong athlete. And I think the same goes for The Band. My evidence includes that terrible shot Rick makes in the opening of The Last Waltz, like somebody that has never played pool just smashing away. And those '68 shots of the lads playing football in cowboy boots and tossing the ball around with what look like girly (or English) throwing chops. The same goes for Richard's shift-fingered hands & evident fear as a receiver in the same sequence.

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Steve

Kristie, it's obvious from that picture Bob doesn't play ping pong\table tennis. I'm guessing that was his first and last time.

I won't go into the physics of the shot he's trying to make, I'll just say look at those SHOES you mentioned.

If he tried to move left or right, never mind backwards, he's on the floor.

Think of Bob's stage act. Did you ever see him move, in any way? Those are the kind of shoes you wear when you're not planning to do anything but walk slowly in a straight line.

Note to Roz; The Batman movie was only released in 2008, I don't think you can blame the movie.

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Norbert

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Spirit

Subject:

Check link. Heheheheh.

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Victoria S

Subject: Hmmm

It works this time, I previewed n everything!

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Victoria S

Subject: Wrong link corrected

Sorry for the err.

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Victoria S

Subject: Thank you and a hint

Thank you for exploring my photos and the kind comments. For you who mentioned seeing them in person, perhaps I'll let you know at a later time where my shows are.

I didn't read anything new about Robbie and assume no one else really knows either. Ill check back.

Nice to know there are fellow photogs here. I checked some links but didn't see any galleries, I'll check back for that too.

BTW Schmitt is not my dads last name:) nor is Schmidt...

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rosalind

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kristie

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rosalind

Actually sleeps with his head on a pillow, unzips his fly to urinate and at least once a day (if he's fortunate) has to spend a little time on the pot! I bet he eats grape nuts for breakfast, a salad with plenty of tomatoes for lunch and a steak with a baked potato for dinner. I'll even go out on a limb and say that the guy has a television, (hopefully not tuned to MSNBc) a night stand with reading glasses and a book on it and even a favorite chair. Do you think Bob has all his own teeth? You think he needs a little pill to make it home? Oh that's right, the guy's actually a masterpiece

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Friend0

Victoria, your pictures are phenomenal.

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Joan

I loved your photos. You capture a beautiful quality.They glowed. Thank you for sharing them with us. Please keep us posted if you ever show. I would like to see them "in person"/

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Kristie

Yes, Victoria your photos are lovely as well, but I was referring to the "new" photos of the tour 74' from "what's new." I hadn't seen a couple of them. I really like the one with Levon and Bob playing Ping Pong! the fact that Bob does so called "normal" activities like playing ping pong(and going to the gym, which he supposedly does now)blows my mind!

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Steve

!ILLKA, I need step two in a hurry! All the water is running out. I guess I should have waited for your complete instructions before turning the Med. upside down.Fuck!

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Peter V

Minstrel Boy … I hadn't thought about the Irish song. The first lines have a melodic similarity, then they pull apart. I always loved Minstrel Boy (but i always loved Self Portrait).

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Kristie

Those "new" photos are so great! There must be a books worth out there.

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Lars

Subject: "Fucking off" etiquette

EMPTY NOW- As a neutral and apathetic observer of your recent "fuck offs" directed at a considerable number of people, may I make a suggestion? Here in America we like to also include "the horse you (whoever you're addressing) rode in on."

Sometimes it's the little touches that make all the difference.

All the best.

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jh

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kristie

Subject: Minstrel boy

Joe J- I believe that version is Dylan's(is it not?), although there a various traditional versions of the song as well. I sent you a link for one such version. And I could be wrong(I often am), but I think Rick was the one harmonizing with him at that time.

I saw Neil Young in October, and although I love the man and he is one of my favorite musicians...I did not leave happy. I really think he is taking the whole"godfather of grunge" title a little to seriously these days as the whole concert consisted of him crouched over his heavily distorted guitar like Kurt Kobain in the "smells like teen spirit" music video. He played a set consisting of hits(old man, heart of gold) and songs about his car(a lot according to my friend who saw him at Madison Square garden, I got off easy with just two. He sang about four in New york...which I am guessing are from his new album on hybrid cars). I had a hard time connecting to the music, and really stated cursing myself for being born in the wrong decade and not at a time when I could have seen all the greats in their "heydays."

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Kristie

I also don't feel my post was celebratory. I was simply confused as to what the "smut" was she was talking about, and curious as to what drove her over the edge(so to speak), as I agree with Brien in thinking the religious talk was handled fairly well. Maybe I shouldn't have made a joke so soon....but I have a feeling that Karen is still lurking and will resurface when she realizes we are pretty harmless(although, if she has been here for the last four years like she said, and nobody knows her..it may be under a different name).

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Joan

Todd, thank your for that link it is wonderful!

Peter, I don't think I was celebrating Karen's departure. She arrived here, and immediately stated attacking people "personally". Several people tried to relate to her, and some went out of their way to be "nice" to her. Suddenly she began excoriating us for having anti-Christian beliefs (I'm Jewish for heavens sake! :-D ) Lastly, she accused us of posting "smut". It is obvious to me that she did not care for us. When I said I will not miss her, I was not being "nasty". I was just stating a fact. I think she is/was a person who has posted before under another name. From the start she was hostile and divisive.

Peter, I think you know me well enough by this time to know I go out of my way to welcome new people. I pretty much "keep it to myself" if I don't like someone or something. There are several people (who shall remain nameless) who no longer post. I don't miss them, but I've never said so. I think Karen stepped way over the line. she chose to remove herself. So be it.

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Empty Now

Well said, great thoughts, i agree

Ilkka: thanks for the intructive post

^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
here's my message to the Swedish internet police thing : Fuck off the FRA, fuck off you all, and fuck off everyone of your ilk, and fuck off those for whom you work

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Charlie Y

Doesn't the name Richard Manuel sound like one of the movie alias names the characters made up for the porn video in that awful recent "Zack and Miri" film?

On the other hand (no pun intended), I've seen all five fine films nominatated for Best Picture Academy Awards this year, and I know that is a first for me. I can't afford as many concerts as I used to attend and movies are much cheaper entertainment.

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Norbert

Subject: Hollandia-Germania

Victoria from California nice photo's, you're father did a good job.

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Charlie Y

He was there back in the Arkansas days, and when Levon played for Clinton in DC in 1993. What he witnessed in the White House could have filled a book or two, eight years of overwhelmingly good news.

But lately he'd stopped eating, started acting differently, finally collapsing and leaving us. The beloved White House icon of the 1990s, gone just short of turning 20, we've lost Socks the cat.

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Peter V

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Ilkka (again)

Subject: The FRA law (FRA-lagen in Swedish) is a Swedish legislative package that authorizes the state to warrantlessly wiretap all telephone and Internet traffic that crosses Sweden's borders.

The FRA law (FRA-lagen in Swedish) is a Swedish legislative package that authorizes the state to warrantlessly wiretap all telephone and Internet traffic that crosses Sweden's borders. Most of Norwegian Internet traffic is crossing Swedish borders. I assume that it happens with this message, and your messages. You may want to read more about this law before you post next time in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRA_law . It is a critical article and does not tell the whole thruth. This law is widely accepted by the people who _REALLY_ hate the organised Internet criminality, like me. I hope webmaster will give you more information soon.

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Ilkka

Subject: Hoejskole i Oestfold / Oestfold College / Empty Now

As far as I know the nucleus of this college was a vocational school for fishermen. Nothing wrong with that: I like to eat fish. No fishermen - no fish. As far as I know this college is a part of regional development policy in Norway. Nothing wrong with that. I've seen a lot of younsters wearing CHE t-shirts lately. Hold on, it's coming!

Understanding EMPTY NOW, lesson one: Take a map of Mediterranean Sea. Turn it upside down. 180 degrees.

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Brien Sz

I know people are big Leonard Cohen fans, so the link above brings you to a review of his show he did in NYC.

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Victoria S

Subject: Woke up in question...

Trying to get to sleep while listening to some odd yet calming new age tunes, a song came up that reminded me of Robbie's guitar. I haven't heard The Bands music for a time, since I don't live with my parents anymore, I got a feeling of an overwhelming interest in how Robbie Robertson is doing and he is doing.

I grew up with the band playing while my dad tried to stay off the road on tour. I guess he was trying to stay inspired and educate his daughter in who his music heros were. The Band and Robbie's solo stuff has always been part of my life's soundtrack. If anyone knows updates, please share. Good to know this site is here.

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Rita Ballou

SMUT? You Want Smut? Dare ya...

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JTull Fan

AWWRIGHT!

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joe j

Subject: Self Portrait

Still wallowing deeper into this latter day fascination with Dylan. I'm down to 'Self Portrait' now and what's not to love about it. The original bootleg. Bringing up the questions about the Bands' contribution to that album. Where does 'Minstrel Boy' come from? Is it a Dylan original? Was it really from the 'Isle of Wight'? Who's singing harmony?

Rumour is Neil Young is in town in April. Saw him thirty years ago. Schedule doesn't look good unless he does two shows like Dylan did, still I'd love to take the boys. "Ma send me money please".

Landmark, I'm partial to early Scaggs as well. 'I'll Be Long Gone' is a favourite. Eddie Hinton a GB favourite on geetar I believe.

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Kristie

I always thought the lyrics were "I can't keep track of each falling Rock," but "robin" makes a hell of a lot more sense!

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Mike

Subject: Rick Danko "Sip the Wine" online review.

From Feb. 6, '09.

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Kristie

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rosalind

Nice footage under that link.

What about this documentary being made about Levon? Hope they steer cleer of the dead horse in this one. Maybe they'll just skim over it and spend the most time with his so-well-deserved success of Dirt Farmer and the several years leading up to Dirt Farmer.

Who knew Chicago never got out of that Al Capone mode, they just blackened up a little, got down and juked on over to politics.

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bob w.

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kristie

Brien-Agreed.

Joan-Agreed.

Kevin-once again, Ha ha! And agreed.

Todd-That was fantastic! Thank you.

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BONK

Karen. Before you leave go back and read Brien Sz's post on Christianity. Really read it!

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Todd

Subject: Jubilation EPK

Dee, that You Tube link that you posted (the first one especially) was stunning. I'm not a generally a huge fan of TV talent shows, but the girl singing was amazing for a six year old.

The link above is a clip of the EPK (Electronic Press Kit) for The Band's 'Jubilation' album. Lots of nice footage from some of the recording sessions in Levon's barn/studio. Plenty there for fans of Rick playing the big doghouse bass and smiling away. Interestingly, Rick is also shown playing mandolin and singing during 'White Cadillac'. Maybe that's not the cut that made it onto the album, but it looked like he was having fun with it. Some shots of Garth playing two keyboards at once as well as Levon and the rest of the gang doing their thing. For anyone who's been to a Ramble, it's cool to see footage from the studio when the Band was still recording there. It was shot as a promotional vehicle for the album, but ends up being a tribute of sorts to those who left us too soon...namely Rick and the late Richard Bell who's shown at playing the big Grand piano.

Thanks to the director of the piece for posting it.

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Joan

I'm not sure who Karen is, but I for sure don't think she has been around 4 years. First time I saw her post, she came on attacking Ros. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I won't miss her. All I can say is Smut, what smut??

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Kevin J

I'm sorry I mentioned Coldplay.....that is indeed smut by anyone's definition.

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Bill M

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Brien Sz

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Karen

Been on here for four years & that was enough. Thanks to the smut they allow on here, I will not be posting anymore. Farewell, to the good ones on here, & the website in general.

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David P.

Eric Andersen also wrote a song about Janis Joplin -- "Pearl's Goodtime Blues", included on his great "Blue River" album, with a chorus "borrowed" from The Band.

"Rag mama rag
You got me off my feet
My heart just skipped a beat
Won't you rag mama rag"

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Peter V

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Bill M

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JTull Fan

I think both did/do have the potential of being very attractive physically but in Janis Joplin's case she seemed to definitely not value a shower and a little makeup and in Amy Winehouse's case an extra 15 to 20 pounds and a lot less drugs, alcohol and tobacco would work wonders. In Janis Joplin's case I do not mean that as a criticism as I do find her attractive but it was obvious that going out of her way to look 'pretty' was not her thing.

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Kevin J

Joan…….an award for subtlety is due and for providing a smile as the week ends…… “breath being taken away” on that unmade bed and all………….

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Joan

Subject: Kristie

Your post reminded me of the song. When you think of Janis as you read the lyrics, it kind of takes your breath away.

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Zzzz

Looks like it's time to blow on the coals of... and listen to those first two albums again...

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David P.

Bonnie Bramlett had some interesting comments about the Festival Express in an interview at the time of the film's release. As I recall, she said that the film gave you a sanitized version of what went on the train. Evidently, it was a fun time, but not necessarily for those who were married, travelling with their spouses, like Bonnie and Sylvia Tyson. She remarked that she eventually left the party scene on the train to travel by plane.

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Kristie

Exactly. You hit the nail on the head.

"Well never mind. we are ugly, but we have the music."

from "Chelsea hotel no. 2"(which Cohen himself has said was written for Janis).

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Charlie Y

Subject: Dewey Martin

I'm not sure why it's on YouTube since it's a copyrighted piece of film footage, but for now you can watch the late Dewey Martin deliver a fine drum performance on "For What It's Worth" at the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival. It's cool to see David Crosby joining in on the song as well.

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Joan

I know this may sound odd, but I think her "lack of looks" made her talent. The passion rose from her because that was the way she was beautiful. Too many "pretty" women rely on their looks to cover up their mediocre talent

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Kevin J

Here and there:

Todd: An inspired choice to lay out “Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie” and so true that there is something there for believers and non-believers alike. Sadly too many people get lost looking in one direction or the other – like contesting even the use of certain words or phrases.

dlew: Thanks for the update on Stevie Wright. A sad case it would seem. I listened to The Wrights version of “Evie” last night and while ok, it does pale in comparison to the original. Another case of being slightly tricked by that 30 sec teaser on itunes…………..Just wondering…. does the Young family own Australia yet? Older bothers and younger brothers combined must have impressive royalty cheques rolling in. Check out AC/DC sales figures sometime on ALL their product. Stunning…in a good way.

Luke M: Festival Express allowed me for the first time to truly understand the attraction of Janis Joplin to the likes of Kris Kristofferson. Charismatic - I knew - but the limited clips that were all I had ever been exposed to were frightening to a young boy. Linda Ronstadt and Stevie Nicks - I felt immediately ……but Festival Express exposed Janis to be almost fetching…in some ways sexy to be sure. Oh …. and what a great live performer. She was the headline act – no questions. Dead just months later………a shame.

“Every Grain of Sand”………….Bob Dylan has also expressed the view that this is one of his finest songs. A rare acknowledgement from the Great man.

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David P.

"Every Grain Of Sand" is one of Dylan's most spiritual songs -- one that George Harrison once cited as a favourite. One particular verse seems very pertinent in today's economic climate:

"Oh the flowers of indulgence and the weeds of yesteryear,
Like criminals they have choked the breath of conscience and good cheer.
The sun beat down upon the steps of time to light the way
To ease the pain of idleness and the memory of decay."

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Kristie

I really like the moment in the film where Rick is watching Ian and Sylvia(and great speckled bird)and his expression is just so kid in a candy store. You could just see the love of music in his eyes.

And the drunken sing-along on the train is great as well.

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Steve

Hi Luke, have to agree with your take on Festival Express concerning the Band. The Janis performances were wild. I also watched Festival a couple of weeks back.

I just listened to the most fantabulous radio show on culture anywhere and will relay a few tidbits of upcoming things of interest on Q for next week.

Interview with Bruce Cockburn and another Canucklehead who doesn't do much interview material, Gordo Lightfoot. I'll post the exact times next week just in case there are any music fans here.

Today one of the people in studio was engineer and producer to some of the big timers, Ken Scott. Scott made a comment that made me think of Big Pink."The best songs are written by bands when they make the music for each other with little regard as to how others will accept it".

When he started at Abbey Road it was still EMI, ya I know that doesn't make sense but you know what I mean. The first album he did was Magical Mystery Tour, first song, Your Mother Should Know. When asked why he got to work with the Beatles even though he had almost no experience he said, " because no one else wanted to".

He said the established engineers didn't like to work with the Beatles because the engineers liked to come to work at 9 and go home at 4. They were in their 40's had families and like to stick to a routine.

The Beatles would show up at 5pm and work til 4 or 5 am so he got the gig. Prime example of being in the right place at the right time.

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Kevin J

I present to you Macy Gray, Tracy Chapman and Amy Winehouse as just 3 current examples of female singers short in the looks department that have had massive success due to flat out God given talent in the same way that the great Janis had………………

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bob w.

The great Snooks Eaglin......Rest in Peace.

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luke m

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luke m

True, Brain. Plenty of average sounding singers too - you just don't have them close up in the mix and if they have tuning issues, coat them in chorus and use automatic tuning correction...

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Brien Sz

where the fantasy of music used to lay in the ears and then the mind - it has regretably moved to the eyes first for many before going to the mind.

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luke m

Ran a focus group in Manchester the other night, on the subject of classic rock music. One guy was a massive Dylan fan and mentioned he'd been at IoW, so at the end I asked if he'd seen the Band there. Yes, he said, and at Albert Hall '71. I know some of you guys were there too, but I was, like, dude, respect. My dream gig.

Mind you I slung on Festival Express for the first time in ages last night and there is some good footage of our boys on that. It shows how off the mark TLW is as a record, because on Festival Express no one looks like the star or even a star - they all look so uncool and cool at the same time - and even though being stood behind an organ or sat behind a piano doesn't make for great camera angles, there's good footage of Richard and Garth as well as the power trio center stage. Richard's singing is so beautiful on I Shall Be Released, live for goodness sake, breathtaking.

And Janis is stunning. I don't think there is any way a woman today could become a huge star looking like Janis, what do other people think? She's not a great looker, her skin is terrible (I imagine the wrong choice of vitamins), but she is so alive, so human, you can almost smell her. She's naked on stage, there's nothing between her and the audience. Which came at a cost - that quote about her making love to thousands of people on stage and going home alone. Her rap about they guy who goes to Casablanca is so funny and so sad. Her performance is raw and sexy, but it isn't anyone else's idea of what a sexy woman should look like, its just her.

A propos of not much, Alela Diane's second album got good reviews.

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DEE

Subject: Amazing

No other comment from me, but check these out. Play #1 first.

Clip 1: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/7383/1/

Clip 2: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/19214/1/

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Empty Now

Our Lady Of The Seven Sorrows

nice

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Empty Now

far earlier than Salah Bey, in AN 311 Constantine the Great built the city where i am living, he did take part personally to the constructions, actually him too committed great things in his life, in hoc signo vinces
Have you ever heard of an Emperor who didn’t commit great things? for the fun, and the Band Connection, his Imperial statue you can see when you go out of the center railway station, is called by the popular [Bedouins who don’t give a shit who he was, and as a typical case of the very specific local toponymy]: ”isharaa ma yadrabsh” translate “He brandishes but he’ll never knock”, the marble statue dates from his era, the sword didn’t cross the centuries [link],
in fact there’s a local very specific name for every statue and every monument in Constantine the city… the prosthesis in white concrete which supports His Imperial right leg was added lately, just before that it divided the city in two clans in conflict, those who were about to lose the statue, and those who decided to repare it with concrete
see you near “he brandishes but he’ll never knock”

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Rita Ballou

Lovely song .. funny film

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dlew919

I used to sing 'You got the body of a woman'

'You make me wanna jump for joy'

You got the body of a woman

Pity you're a boy (OW!)

But in all seriousness, I'd agree that the Evie Suite is one of the great productions fo the 1970s, and Stevie Wright one of its great tragedies - he was in the Easybeats ('Friday on my mind'), which included a couple of immigrants named Harry Vanda and George Young. George Young's younger brothers, Angus and Malcolm later formed a bar group called AC/DC - but that's another story).

After the demise fo the easybeats, Wright entered into a period of some decline; he played Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar (which was good), but got addicted to heroin during the run. After this, things got ugly. 'Evie' was an attempt to put his career back on track by two old friends. (Vanda and Young were kind of the Chinnichap of Australian production, but with a more rock sensibility). Anyway, Stevie spent time in jail, and spent some time with dementia (though, if this was true, he has recovered sufficiently to be able perform (albeit sitting down) occassionally.)

The last time I saw him was in the nostalgia tour 'Long Way to the Top' where a lot of Australian acts from the 60s, 70s and 80s gave a concert (it also included M (Pop Music, and a couple of other 'international' acts (not including Rick Springfield, who was born Australian). Stevie was electrifying - and perhaps, more than say a Jimi Hendrix, demonstrated a real sense of 'what could have been'...

Ah, it's Friday, and boy, is it on my mind.

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Kristie

Subject: Has anybody posted about this?

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Peter V

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Todd

Subject: Belief

Long before Dylan entered his Saved period, he very simply offered up some of his views on belief in his epic poem 'Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie'. I think that there's something in there for believers and non-believers alike. In this world, there should be plenty of room for all of us to enjoy the beauty of this world and we all have to find our path one way or another. I happen to be a believer, but it's not up to me to tell anyone else what they should see when experiencing the magic of the Grand Canyon at sunset. Just enjoy the ride and be thankful.

And where do you look for this hope that yer seekin'
Where do you look for this lamp that's a-burnin'
Where do you look for this oil well gushin'
Where do you look for this candle that's glowin'
Where do you look for this hope that you know is there
And out there somewhere
And your feet can only walk down two kinds of roads
Your eyes can only look through two kinds of windows
Your nose can only smell two kinds of hallways
You can touch and twist
And turn two kinds of doorknobs
You can either go to the church of your choice
Or you can go to Brooklyn State Hospital
You'll find God in the church of your choice
You'll find Woody Guthrie in Brooklyn State Hospital

And though it's only my opinion
I may be right or wrong
You'll find them both
In the Grand Canyon
At sundown

From 'Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie' - Bob Dylan 1963

By the way, Thanks to Kevin for the shout-out a while back. I've just been busy trying to make a living, but hope to have a little more free time soon. But not too much free time!

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Bill M

David P: Rosemary Woods - now there was a real recording engineer!

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David P.

When Dylan performed "It's Alright Ma" solo on the 1974 tour with The Band, he received a huge response from the audience each time after singing the line about the president standing naked. The Watergate scandal was reaching its flashpoint and Nixon resigned several months later. Incidentally, when I saw Dylan on that tour in Atlanta, then-Governor and future President Jimmy Carter was in the audience.

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Kristie

Ha haha. Oh, dear.

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JTull Fan

Subject: Legislating

Glad to see ethics-wise things are so much better now!

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JQ

Kristie - Until Wild Bill made that poetry a bit more literal.

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Kristie

"Sometimes even the president of the united states must have to stand naked..."

Bob Dylan(people love this line. They wait for it, and then cheer like crazy).

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Steve

If I remember correctly he started out by grouping the first three together because you only really needed one of them, # 3, I think. As usual it was delivered and constructed as only George could.

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Kevin J

Karen.....Jesus hung out with thieves and prostitutes……enjoyed their company.....had Coldplay been around in his day he might have even tolerated them.....just stick to music.....life is too difficult to be guided by anything other than what Bob Dylan says.....

Garfield French!! Another one I can't find anything about on itunes. The search continues.....

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Brien Sz

As for folks anger towards Christianity - well there's simply nothing you can do except lead by example - what others want to think is other people's issue.., one never really can understand any one persons issue with religion and why they have certain degrees of disdain for it or why they may have zealous devotion.

and just to have fun with it - Take the first 4 commandments away from the ten and tell me that a society needed God to device those rules in order for a society to thrive and be successful. Then look back at the first 4 and ask yourself if those commandments are needed in order for a society to thrive and operate in a respectful manner to their fellow being? I would say that the last six work in regards in keeping the species safe, functioning and thriving - the first 4 essentially has one defining which God they will fall in line with. Let's face it, Yahweh, was a minor figure in the middle east at the time of Moses, David and even until well after Christianity had begun to makes it mark in the Roman Empire. It wasn't until many years later, that monotheism and "God" came to be the big players on the world stage. Before Constantine decreed Christianity as the faith of the Empire(313 CE), roughly 15% of the population was Christian. It wasn't until 325 that Jesus was formally pronounced both divine and human.

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Landmark

Thanks for the shout-out Kevin. "Slipping the breeze, feeling the freze". I wouldn't call them favourites. actually I rank your fave Garfield French's "Old Time Movies" ahead of them. As for Bill M., the person (Joe J.) has spoken and "A Million Vacations" ranks as the GB's all-time favourite Max Webster tune. As for nyself, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize for taking anabolic steroids during the 2004-2006 tax seasons.

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Bill M

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Kevin J

I was looking around for some Ronnie Lane on itunes ( sadly only Rough Mix - which I already have )and came across The Wrights. Just downloaded the fabulous Stevie Wright song "Evie pts 1,2& 3"..... One of the top 10 songs of the 70's in my view. The original seems not to be available but these guys do a great job of it!

Also downloaded some Walter Rossi. "Ride the Wind" and "Soldiers of the Night". Two other songs that rank in my top 25 of the 70's. Landmark may remember them well!

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bob w.

Talk about a great twin bill in a fabulous venue.

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Karen

Subject: Kristie

I think someone other than myself started this crap to begin with. I normally try to restrain myself, but felt compelled to voice my opinion. Is this an anti-Christian gb?Because I'm starting to think that it is due to some people's posts. As for chat rooms, I don't enjoy going to them. I don't apologize for having a Biblical view on morality either.If you have a problem with my posts, go past them.

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Kristie

Steve-Was it ever! Shocking actually.

Dunc-Yes I bought all of their albums after seeing them live a few years back. Colin Linden dedicated the show to "the greatest band in the world. The Band!"before breaking into "Acadian Driftwood." Anyone with taste that good has to be worth listening to. I have their solo work as well.

Karen, you actually made me spit out my coffee in shock. I am still surprised, after everything the human race has been through, that this is still an issue. I am not going to say anything else, other than there are probably many different "christian" chat rooms online where you could better vent your frustration at all the "morally inferior" people out to ruin your life. You have a right to your opinion, I just don't really want to see it in the Gb.

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Brien Sz

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Bill M

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David P.

The rumor grows & grows, where it started someone knows, that Dylan has recorded some new material. Speculation is that it involves a new album, as well as contribution to the soundtrack for an upcoming film entitled "My Own Love Song".

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Kevin J

"Just because you like my stuff doesn't mean I owe you anything." - Bob Dylan

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Peter V

Were Bob Dylan to start handing out bonus tracks to all and sundry, what would become of the Bootleg Series? A few were shoved on CD singles to get collectors to buy them, but not on reissued albums! This is "All Standing Ticket to Double the Capacity Bob". Don't expect charity.

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Kevin J

Subject: Levon's 50th Aniversary

Looking at the above clip makes me realize that Levon has been playing for 50 years!!

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Kevin J

Subject: Republicans can't dance but do they kiss?

Just for the two that insist on talking about how Left or Right they are. A great pop song is a great pop song....

Dylan & the Dead: An intersection of a just about dead band with an artist just about to enter 4 years of hell. A dreadful release.

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Bill M

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David P.

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bob w.

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Brien Sz

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Peter V

When they announced his death on Radio Two yesterday, the DJ quoted Duke Ellington who had said years ago that Bellson wasn't only the best drummer he'd ever met, but the best musician he'd ever met.

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David P.

It appears that Sony/Legacy is reissuing several Dylan albums on CD. The titles, set for release on March 31st, include:

BEFORE THE FLOOD (Live with The Band)
BASEMENT TAPES (with The Band)
NEW MORNING
DYLAN & THE DEAD

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Karen

It doesn't mean someone is hiding something because they don't agree with the majority of people. It just means that person has the nerve to think on their own. By the way, I'm not Katy Perry I ain't that sick.

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dlew919

Subject: Without wishing to inflame, nor get people angry, nor do anything but point something out...

Some years back, I did a charity gig (or 4) for a gay gym. I was on guitar - we did a range of cabaret stuff. Brilliant fun

I was kind of ambivalent to mildly hostile to gay guys before - however I thought it was wrong that you needed a gay gym because regular gyms were actually quite dangerous for gay guys. But given that it performed a service in protecting its members, I thought it worthwhile.

So I did the gig. Had a blast, made some great friends. Went back the next 2 years.

Anyway, it occurred to me that these guys lived a different way to me, but IT DIDN"T MATTER. What they did at home was none of my business, what they did in public (kissing, holding hands) was none of my business, and I could ignore it, embrace it, or just accept it.

Marriage? I could care less aobut who marries who. Adoption - surely a child is better in a household where the child is wanted, rather than that woman whose just had the octuplets, or the 13 y o boy in UK whose had a child. (Of course, I'm not so stupid to suggest that being gay instantly makes you a better person: one of the most maladjusted poeple I ever met was gay).

I'm just saying.

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rosalind

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Friend0

Good night.

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rosalind

FEM - If something is immoral, nature wouldn't allow it? I guess that means it's still within bounds for a 50 year old man to have sex with a 6 year old ?

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rosalind

Are you just now figuring out what goes along with opening the door to gay marriage? Check date on link dumb asses

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JQ

You're in good company with the mullahs of Iran, Afghanistan, & the extra-natural Saudis too for good measure and the odd stoning. And the stellar leaders of your ilk like Ted Haggard, Larry Craig & Mark Foley.

You sure you've never kissed a girl with your tongue? Folks that express like you are normally hiding something. But do give it a go with another girl once in your life, get unnatural!

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Tracy

Subject: R.I.P Louis Bellson

Shamefully as this music related guestbook spirals into flame wars over politics and religion, we say goodbye to yet another great musician. The Great Gig In The Sky has beckoned Louis Bellson. Pearl is smiling really happy now. She got her husband back. Mr. Bellson is one of the all time great drummers of our time.

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Karen

I am grown up, I just don't agree with some people's ignorant opinions. Am I the only one who is conservative in this area? As for whomever opened this can of worms, you asked for a strong response, & I think you got it.

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Far East Man

Subject: Immorality

It seems to me that if a lifestyle is "immoral" or "against nature" then nature wouldn't allow it. Grow up, and get yer head out of yer....

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Tim

I usually stick to posting or responding to Band related topics but if anyone is in the Philly area, they should go check this out while they still can. I heard about this around 96 and have been facinated every since. now back to The Band....

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Karen

I can't remember who said that" Christians have their heads up their asses" on here, but that was stupid. I normally don't become political or overtly religious, but I'm not ashamed of the way I feel. I will say there are a lot of "lifestyles" I don't agree with because they are immoral & against nature. It's just common sense is all. I'm not like Obama, I actually admit I disagree with the gay lifestyle.I don't give a crap what others may think.

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Dunc

Subject: Bob W, Jeff, Lars, Kristie

Thanks Jeff, Bob W and Lars.

Jeff:I really envy you seeing so many shows at the NY venues.

Lars:The last song I'll see John Martyn play is 'Rock, Salt and Nails'

Bob W:A good Scottish connection with Ronnie Lane is the talented duo, Gallagher and Lyle.

Kristie: Collect all the works of Blackie and the Rodeo Kings.

Anybody into Richard Hawley. It's seldom I get into new music, but I really enjoy his music.

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Steve

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kristie

Thank you for the recommendations. I will see what I can dig up, although, as I mentioned, asking about Canadian music in records stores in Vancouver often gets blank stares. I may have better luck online.

Steve- Thank you for the song descriptions. I enjoyed reading them. And is the Book you read the Krakauer book "Under the banner of heaven?" He really delved deeply into the history of the Mormon faith.

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Steve

If you look into the history of the people involved, especially Blackmore, his father or Warren Jeffs.

It's not so cut and dried. Forcing a 13 or 14 year old girl to become the "Celestial Wife" of some pervert who may already be married to her mother or her sister, preventing children from learning anything about the outside world and on and on is all abuse of one kind or another.

Then of course there are all the young males who just don't get wives when some old bastard has 46 himself, causes another problem.

Warren Jeff's group was simply dumping young teenage boys miles from home, some as far as central America, leaving them to be taken care of by social services or just to fend for themselves on the streets. These are just splendid people.

The book I read about the Mormons in Salt Lake was just a depressing tale of incest, murder and eternal battles between psychopathic males for recognition as The One True Prophet or whatever their term is for the new supreme leader.

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Kevin J

Subject: Ronnie Lane

bob w: I came across this humourous clip of Pete Townsend talking about Rough Mix and interestingly about Rod Stewart paying Ronnie's medical bills. I am told that Stewart did the same for Long John Baldry when he was sick. A decent guy it would seem despite all the bad press....RS that is.......

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JQ

David P -

I think those Canadian Mormons have a valid point. In a free society why not allow polygamy, if all parties are adult & it's consensual?

So now there's a weird coalition: gays & fundi Mormons.

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Mike

Subject: Levon Helm online Ramble review.

The link above leads to a nice www.honesttune.com review of Levon's Jan 17th "Ramble" w/ the Wood Bros.

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David P.

Interesting that two fundamentalist Mormons on trial for polygamy in British Columbia are using Canada's same-sex marriage law as part of their defense. Apparently their argument is that if the law recognizes one form of non-traditional marriage to include same-sex couples, it should also recognize unions involving multiple partners. Band connection: The pluralization of Robbie's song.

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Kevin J

Subject: Stompin Tom

A link to kd lang's favorite singer singing the song Bill mentioned yesterday. No truth that Harper will play Margo's Cargo as a way of introducing Obama to Canada.....

You might have to Canadian to get the song - not sure...

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Joan

Welcome back!

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Steve

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JQ

Steve -

Obama won't block it when it comes his way, which is quite different to the Mormon POV & their initiatives. Gay marriage is still held back by the masses here with 65% nationwide saying no. But every time it gets measured formally the gap narrows. And it's not just the Mormons, most American Christians still have their heads up their asses on this (& the death penalty), including Obama, if he's telling the truth.

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Steve

Actually I'm not sure why a city would be excited about a presidential visit.

Ottawa's airport has to be closed for an hour before he lands, and when he's preparing to leave. Use of the air space over the city is restricted while he's here.

Then there's all the mandatory welding shut of manhole covers on all the possible secret routes he may take from the airport to the Parliament Buildings.

All mailboxes have to be removed as well. People are being warned not to open their windows, stand on fire-escapes or go on to their roofs before or during the motorcade or they may be shot dead by the US sharpshooters stationed on the buildings along the route.

I hope the fuck he or any other president never comes to Bulwer. Actually it might not be so bad, we don't have manhole covers, mailboxes or an airport. OK he can come as long as he doesn't stay too long.

JQ, after your near brush with disbelief when those Mormons took up the cause against gay marriage, I was wondering how your faith in the new saviour, the one coming to visit us tomorrow, held up with his unequivocal statement awhile back that he could never support changing the laws to allow gay marriage since it is against his deeply held christian beliefs?

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dlew919

Welcome back, old friend!

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Empty Now

Subject: The Arabs Said And Said - Part II

The song is a Malouf genre, sometimes credited simply Salah Bey

9:19
Ma tlumushi aliya kebadi, Aadat baba nar

(Don’t blame me my sons, It’s the tradition of our forefathers to die of Violence)

http://www.okbob.net/article-26778911.html

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Empty Now

Subject: The Arabs Said And Said

3:45
Kanu Slatin Wezra, Matou qabla aadahom
Ya kesbu min almal ketra, La aazhom la fedahom
Layam temar ou tebra, Essabar hewa dewahom

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They were Sultans and Viziers, who died before their enemies
The earned power and wealth, that never protected them
Days alternate the masters of a time, only the continuers lived
This verses are awesome

The Ottoman Regency of Algiers was not an uneventful history, throughout the three centuries the Ottomans exercised their authority, for power, strife, conspiracies, and murders,have never ceased. A long list of names, Pachas, Deys and Beys illustrates this turbulent period. Some have reigned for only a few hours before being slaughtered.
Among those who have managed to last, wfind the name of Salah Bey. He ruled the Constantine Beylik for twenty years (1772-1792)
Mostefa Ben Braham Watchek Salah Bey was born in Izmir in western Turkey in 1725. At age 16 he left his native country and landed in Algiers, where he first exercised as cafe waiter, before entering the army. He was noticed for his bravery and his fierce against the Spaniards campaign. His friendship in 1765 with the Bey Ahmed Kolli was strengthened by his marriage to his daughter. This certainly helped to be appointed for the position of Bey of Constantine in 1771. The popular memory retains the image of a man of exception for the people. Salah Bey has been a prince and not a mere Bey. Soon after being appointed, he brought an architect called Bartholomeo Minorcan Mahon, he commissioned to study, design and supervise the construction of the bridge of El-Kantara. He ordered the building of the mosques of Sidi El-Kettani in 1775 and Sidi Lakhdar. He pursued equip his capital with beautiful architectural structures, he reorganized the urban fabric of the city with irrigation canals, orchards, norias, and gardens. He turned the Beylik prosperous and a helluva place where to live. He allowed Jews to form in Constantine the biggest community in North-Africa, granting land to build houses without ghettoizing.
In parallel, there are also many enemies among the tribes of the South to whom he required taxes. Many religious leaders oppose his authority. His enemies will the Dey of Algiers dismiss him from office and appoint in his place a certain Bey Bousbaa. Salah Bey will not hesitate to kill the intruders and to come into conflict with the central government in Algiers. The city splits into two clans. The first decided to avenge Bousbaa, and the other to defend the cause of Salah Bey. For several days the battle in the streets of Constantine. There will be many dead and wounded without any advantage for both parties.
Soon, the Dey of Algiers sends Hussein Bey Ben Hassan, who arrests Salah Bey and executes him in a mere humiliating manner, strangled with a pink scarf [Band Connection] . That was in 1792.
Meanwhile, some Arabs say today all the misfortune of Salah Bey started the day he jailed his treasurer for fraud. The treasurer's daughter was the wife of the Dey of Algiers

It is the story told in the monumental folk song and famous masterpiece, Galou Laarab Galou (The Arabs said and said)
Any resident of Constantine can not claim to be from the city if he does not know and do not like the song. Salah should not be the only Bey to die his way. But he comes into eternity in song. The voice, heavy with grief and nostalgia, the incredibly soulful text is simply authored “An Anonymous Jew”

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Pang Ging

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Lars

Subject: Feb 1983

I was curious as to just where I was in Feb 1983, and then I remembered my old account books. So I found "1983" and it said that I was up visiting an old frat buddy (Plymouth State PBE) who lived on Squam Lake, NH. While I was up there New York got "The Blizzard of '83," but "Golden Pond" (the locals hate that name) only got 8" of snow. I was renovating a stone house in New Paltz that winter and that was my vacation.

I've got Feb 16th as being a Wed- the night Dylan sat in with Levon, Rick, and Sredni. I was back to work by then. So I don't have any first hand knowledge of The Lone Star Show. But Sredni told me about it a couple of times. From what I can remember, Levon and Rick talked to Dylan before the show and asked him if he'd come up for a song. Dylan was kind of evasive and he took off soon after. While they were doing their set, Sredni says that some guy came up to the stage between songs and said, "Mr. Zimmerman is in the house." Rick invited Dylan up and they did "Ain't No More Cane." I guess that's when the photo was taken, a shot that made them look worse off than they really were.

I just checked Levon's book and it says that Dylan did THREE songs with the boys that night. I'm having a hard time picturing Dylan singing "Hand Jive" but the book should know-- it came straight from Levon.

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Joan

Subject: Estelle Bennet of the Ronettes

A sad end to a sad life.

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bob w.

Hello, Dunc. I think Ronnie Lane was as natural a musician and songwriter as anyone I've ever come across. He has that minstrel blood in him and there's a joy in his music that translates beautifully to his audience. Just love his work.

Glad you are enjoying it.

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DJ

I got called out of town and can't use my 1 "primo" ticket to Levon at the Beacon, Thu. 5 Mar. It is ORCH row BB seat 13 -- I think that's 2d row center. I paid face $115; I'll sell it at a slight loss for $100 to any die-hard fan who can pick it up in midtown -- you need to be able to meet me at 45th and 6th at some time convenient to you during a business day to get the ticket. If interested, email me at march5bandticket@gmail.com Thanks very much. (Of course, this post is not an ad for a commercial product - I'm willing to take a slight loss so this ticket ends up in deserving hands.)

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JTull Fan

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Dunc

Subject: Interested but really just nosy

Was anybody at the Lone Star Cafe Feb 16th 1983 when Levon and Rick were playing a concert and Dylan appeared in an inebriated state. I aways wanted to know if he joined them on stage and it was a great evening? Jeff?

Bob W Have been enjoying Ronnie Lane's 'How Come' a collection of British singles.

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Charlie Y

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Bill M

By the way, the producer / label owner of Stompin' Tom's early 45s and indie LPs was John Irvine, previously a folk bassist. In the '70s he gave me an acetate of himself backing Amos Garrett's pre-Dirty Shames group, the Pioneers, singing "Keep Your Hands Off Her" circa '63. I (foolishly, perhaps) gave it to Amos a couple of years ago.

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Kevin J

Bill M: I have not read a biography of Stompin Tom but would like to. I have a vivid memory as a child of watching TV with my Dad – it must have been early 70’s and Stompin Tom came on with just a guitar and banging his boot on the stage and it just amazed me. So real and just so good…….. I recall my Dad explaining to me how important being authentic was........Funny but I spent the next 5 years after that listening to Bowie, The Faces and Led Zep but that memory of seeing Stompin Tom did stay with me…......maybe that’s how I found my way to The Band in the late 70’s………On that thought, while he did not have the international rep of a Joni or Neil or Lightfoot....I would have been happy to see Stompin Tom in TLW………………………

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JTull Fan

although if you are still around at 5pm we can meet at the Capital Ale House perhaps where we took Brien Szabo.

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JTull Fan

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Steve

He even drove up from RI to meet us at a David Francey concert in Vermont a couple of years back.

He saw Stan a couple of times down in Nantucket RI and Boston.

I take Tom in your quiz.

Bill, Stompin Tom might have been one of Canada's earliest Indie artists. I surely came away with that impression after hearing him perform at Place Des Arts back in the late 70's.

I remember buying Stan's music from his mother. The way he distributed his music back when I saw him was he'd announce to the crowd to write to his mother and start up a life long letter exchange with her. He'd give you her name and address and you'd send her a letter.

That's what I did and bought 4 cassettes in one order.

His mother would enclose a little personal hand written note with the cassettes.

I didn't keep up a personal letter exchange with her but I know a couple of people who did for years. She was great.

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Charlie Y

It struck me today that that one line in "Endless Highway" was a little odd back in the 1970s, but not so much anymore--the one about the "poison peanut machine." In 2009 several people have died due to that machine, from contaminated peanut butter. Robbie was a prophet.

JTF: I'll be in Richmond with some time to kill on Thursday, so send me a message if you'll have some time during the day for a cup of java.

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JTull Fan

If they would defrost Ted Williams cryogenically frozen head maybe we can ask him about the current statet of baseball, but he is going to need a new body to get attached to before anyone can shine the old curmudgeon's feet.

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Bill M

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Kevin J

Steve...........not another word while your wife is close by....... Those L. Cohen albums are an ex girlfriend's to be sure. One does not forget having one album - never mind five albums - from such an artist!!

Stompin Tom: The original punk rocker! Johnny Ramone, Johnny Rotten and Stompin Tom walk into a dark room all carrying knives - only one walks out. Who would you put your money on?

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Bill M

Kristie: If you like your doggerel to have more of a C&W flavour, there's always Stompin' Tom Conners at his best. His classic, a song that could be filed alongside Steve's song in the Industrial Ditties section, is "Sudbury Saturday Night" - "The girls are out to bingo / And the boys are getting stinko / They'll think no more of Inco / On a Sudbury Saturday night". The CBC played his "Bud The Spud" on the drive-home show on Friday: "He's Bud the Spud from the bright red mud / Driving down the highway smilin' / The spuds are big on the back of Bud's rig / They're from Prince Edward Island".

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Charlie Y

Not long ago there was speculation Alex Rodrieguez of the New York Yankees might be the best baseball player ever. Now there's speculation he might not be worthy of shining the shoes of Ted Williams. The times they are a-changing.

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Steve

Bill and his partner Sue Lothrop play our local Church Street Cafe once a year in Lennoxville. They've played the Cafe for the last 6 years. He's another mandolin player I'd add to my list of enjoyable listens. Always tasteful and song supportive as opposed to the flailing solo performers.

Wow, I went to my tape collection to find Stan Rogers music and realized I've got a small Leonard Cohen collection. I found 5 Cohen Albums I'd forgotten I had. I must have been a fan.

Kristie here are a couple of Stan songs that cover the range of his interests. All great tunes.

45 Years; if you've got a romantic side this will warm it up.

Fogarty's Cove; Stan wrote lots of sea going, sailor inspired songs, this is a great one that's more about the people left behind.

Free In The Harbour; A song still relevant today as fisherman leave Newfoundland and head to the hills of Alberta.

White Squall; One of my brothers in law in Rhode Island told me the first time he heard this song on NPR he was driving his car and at the end of the song he realized we was white knuckling the steering wheel.

The House Of Orange; I'll let this one speak for its self.

There are so many great songs but I'll end with, The Idiot, always one of my favorite's and to show Bill I still have some working brain cells I'll try and see what I can remember.

I often take these night shift walks when the foreman's not around, I turn my back on the cooling stacks and make for open ground, far out beyond the tank farm fence where the gas flares make no sound and I forget the stink and I always think back to that eastern town.

I remember back six years ago this western life I chose, when everyday the news would say some factory's going to close. I could have stayed to take the dole but I'm not one of those, I take nothing free and that makes me , an idiot I suppose.

So I bid farewell to that eastern town I never more will see, but work I must so I eat this dust and breath refinery. Oh I miss the green and the woods and streams and I don't like cowboy clothes, but I like being free and that makes me an idiot I suppose.

So come on you fine young fellows who've been beat in to the ground, this western life's no paradise but it's better than lying down, well the streets aren't clean and there's nothing green and the hills are dirty brown, but the government dole will rob your soul back there in your hometown.

there's at least one more verse but I've hit a dead spot.

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Joan

Neil Young "Long May You Run"

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David P.

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Bill M

BTW, Curly Boy Stubbs's regular musical partner in the '70s and '80s was Bill Garrett, brother of Amos.

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Kevin J

Wasn't Queen's drummer in love with his car.....if a car is just a car that is..............

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Steve

Kristie, I have all of Stan's music and actually saw him with Garnet and Curly Boy Stubbs at The Yellow Door in Montreal back in the early 80's. I'll take a look through the collection and suggest a couple of songs that have held up well.

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David P.

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Pat B

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Peter V

As Paul Simon said, cars are cars. For years we debated the inability of the British to write convincing songs about cars. Songs like Chuck Berry's Jaguar and the Thunderbird, or Eddie Cochran in "Something Else" (Just a 41 Ford, not a 59 … I'm thinking to myself … that car's fine looking man. it's something else), or even Beep Beep where the little Nash Rambler wins the day. Let alone Little Deuce Coupe or 409.

We discussed this before … in the British versions of Beep Beep (there were two competing ones), the Nash Rambler became a "bubble car" because in our terms, Nash Ramblers were large and fast.

Last time, I suggested that only Ian Dury had written a decent British song with a car heavily featured (I had a love affair with Nina, in the back of my Cortina …).

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Bill M

Kristie: Listen to Steve re Stan Rogers. And also pay attention to the artists covered by Blackie and the Rodeo Kings - Willie P Bennett obviously, a handful of others who you know already (Bruce, Murray, Fred), but also David Wiffen, writer of "More Often Than Not" (Ian and Sylvia), "Driving Wheel" (Tom Rush, Cowboy Junkies, Roger McGuinn et al). I hope BARK turns its attention at some point to the great work of Ray Materick - most now on CD. As for Wiffen, there's a latter-day indie CD out, but more notable is "Coast to Coast Fever", produced by Cockburn and reissued on CD a few years ago. He does mostly his own songs, but also Willie P's classic hitching song, "White Line" - with a great line that I'm sure you'll appreciate from the mountains, "Sunny days are what I pray for, cold and sunshine on my skin". You might also get the recent "Dancing Alone: The Songs of William Hawkins" on the True North label, which has performances by Cockburn, MacLauchlan, Sandy Crawley, Ian Tamblyn, Brent Titcomb ... Titcomb's another guy to watch for. Maybe three CDs.

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David P.

Charlie: And there's Bobby Troup's classic "(Get Your Kicks On) Route 66." In addition to his accomplishments as a songwriter, Mr. Troup was a graduate of the Wharton School, a U.S. Marine officer in WWII, an actor and, more importantly, Julie London's husband of many years.(:-)

Garth is among the guests on Neko Case's upcoming album "Middle Cyclone", to be released next month. He of course also appeared on her previous sucessful solo release "Fox Confessor Brings The Flood".

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Charlie Y

Then there's "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald," which reminds me that President Obama's first trip abroad will be to the great nation of Canada. He knows who our friends are...

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Charlie Y

Subject: Names That Sound Made Up...and Transportation Tunes

Garth Hudson, Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, Levon Helm.

"Mystery Train," "Maybelline," "Little Deuce Coup," "409," "Pink Cadillac" (though that one may be about something else).

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David P.

Today's recommened listening:

"Yellow Submarine"--The Beatles
"Luxury Liner"--The International Submarine Band (featuring Gram Parsons)

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Peter V

Allegedly the subs have cloaking technology and travel with their sonars off to avoid detection. British and US submarines share a common tracking / information service to avoid collisions, but France is not a participant. The smokescreen is unfunny.

The French announcement was that they’d hit a “submerged container” which had fallen off a ship.

Then the British owned up and said it had happened in “mid-Atlantic”

Then today’s paper’s announced that by mid-Atlantic they meant the Bay of Biscay, not far off the French coast.

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Brien Sz

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Steve

I was going to tell Brien if he's still working on that first million he could get there in a hurry by giving the navy some top secret sub plans from Steve's work shop.

Brien, suggest they put some of those handy windows in the front like the Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea sub, The Seaview . The answer is right there in the name.

The navy bigwigs obviously haven't see the program.

For a bonus payout you could suggest they slap a couple of rear view mirrors on the subs and they're as safe to travel in as an early 30's Model A .

Of course if they just went back to clunky WW2 desiel subs they could all safely keep track of each other which seems to be their only mission these days anyway, at a tiny fraction of the price. Maybe a, NO SUBMERGING, rule would work, as well.

In our time of financial restraint this would be a sensible concession on the part of the defense dept.

But then again Lars could be right; When ever people are involved there's bound to be a fuck up.

Kristie, I'm happy you checked out the Stan Rogers music. He was special, there's no doubt. What a voice and energy. He could write a pretty decent song as well.

He actually didn't die in a crash. He and several others suffocated when the plane was on the ground. The interior of the plane caught fire.

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rosalind

Pul..

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dlew919

Ry Cooder /n Bela Fleck /n Neko Case /n There's others ...

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Peter M.

Subject: spam

I forgot to add, that the posts from "Work" and the Viagra one were shameless, whoring spam, and deserve to be deleted by the moderators.

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Peter M.

Subject: Levon, spam and stuff

I've shared Levon's performance on Conan with all those I love. Who else gets to do two long songs on this show??? And Conan's comments to Levon were priceless. "Thank you, it's an honor". He had him play out through the end credits with "The Weight" after Lee's 14 piece crew had done "A Train Robbery" earlier. Jimmy's grin was priceless, too. We are living through wonderful times.

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Lars

Subject: Submarine collision

STEVE- My guess is that there was nothing wrong with the subs--it's the people who operate them. While I've seen sonar screens, I don't have any experience with them. I used to have to read the radar screens when our ship pulled out to sea, long ago. After a while you can tell the difference between an actual obstruction (like a lighthouse) and a large piece of driftwood. They both show up on your screen as a pair of green dots, but the lighthouse's dots will get brighter and slightly bigger as you approach it. With sonar, you can actually make out an image on your screen.

Both subs must have had their anti-sonar systems on, but when they got near each other there's no excuse other than a sonar technician was catching some ZZZZs ("Fuck all"). Or the French sonar tech figured he was there first and he wasn't about to change course for some pig who had no business being there (sniff).

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abby

Bob W - You saw them also? I'd like to think that their banter is fresh and different every show. They pretty much were just talking back and forth about...whatever came up. Not necessarily a good thing for most acts, but these are two clever dudes. I just love clever songwriters. Saw Randy Newman once and he too was a treat. Glad to hear you enjoyed the boys as well. Hello Steven - how is your home improvement going?

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rosalind

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rosalind

Karen Dalton is my favorite blues singer.

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JQ

I'm glad Charlie Y mentioned the article about her; it tells quite a bit. Her new record is coming soon and there's a clip on YouTube called Middle Cyclone EPK which previews it. After playing her last one, Fox Confessor, and watching the Austin City Limits DVD, a ton, I'm weighing-in as a real big fan.

Talking about real deal female artists - has anybody payed much attention to Karen Dalton or her '71 album In My Own Time? I've been stuck on the song Katie Cruel for a few days running now. It's a Woodstock record with some names I recognize including John Simon & Richard Bell and she covers In A Station. She must have an interesting, albeit tragic as I recall, story. She's called The Appalachian Billy Holiday and that seems apt.

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Sean

Subject: The Last Waltz

I think The Last Waltz is probley the best editing in a movie ever. If anybody has seen the lost waltz, you will know what im talking about. If you haven't please comment back thanks. Viva La Robbie Robertson

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Joan

Subject: A goddam impossible way of life

An article on the 2 musicians who perished in the Buffalo plane crash.

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Kristie

Steve-I enjoyed those three songs. Thanks again. I will try to see what I can find at the record store. It is, however, a bit eerie that he died on my birthday! And what a tragic way to go.....I remember reading this Rock n' roll book some time ago(can't recall the name) and it listed all the musicians who have died in plane crashes, and he was not on the list. Apparently they didn't research well enough.

Karen-Don't take it personally if nobody responds to your questions...sometimes one can drum up interest, other times not.

If you like Jack White and The Raconteur's, and want to listen to some "white blues music,' give a try to The Black Keys. They are fantastic, and in my opinion, a way better band than the White Stripes....But I have to tell you, it is better to go to the originals. Mississippi John hurt, Muddy Waters(Band connection of course), Charlie Patton, could go on forever....For me, to appreciate a genre of music, I like to go back to the originals and trace the music to the present time...but I have a lot of time on my hands these days.

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Steve

OK, lets see if our gov'ts keep throwing away oodles of money on nuke subs now that they've proven that they're so technically advanced as to be completely useless. When a brazillion dollar sub has to literally run into another brazillion dollar sub before either one has any idea the other is there someone should realize we're pouring money down a hole.

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Peter V

Got a copy of Angels Serenade. Levon just plays drums … no singing. There's lovely Garth accordion on Something Bout The Smokies and the organ on Runaway Train stands out. But on the whole, the title is like saying the new James Taylor album is by Gadd, Johnson and Taylor, rather thab by James Taylor. It's a good analogy … both superb drummers, but that's not the bit that makes the songs. I think it's a pleasant album, a bit generic on two listens, but I'll give it more. Calling it Helm, Hudson and … is a scam to my ears.

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Karen

Subject: Peter V. & Rosalind

Thanks for your input & links. Well, at least the two of you were interested in my post.

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joe j

Heard 'Everything That Touches You' on the radio. Must have been thirty years (or more). Always liked that song.

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Norbert

Subject: Tom Waits press conference

Bob W. thanks, that was a treat.

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Charlie Y

Subject: Mr. T. Waits...and Ms. N. Case

That Tom Waits "press conference" was pretty damn brilliant. I wish he'd tour to my neck of the woods--maybe as a twin bill with Ry Cooder. How great would THAT be?

Yesterday's NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE included a lengthy feature about Neko Case in which both Levon and Garth are mentioned. She says Levon is "awesome" and talks about admiring him for being able to sing so well while drumming.

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kristie

I will check Stan Rodgers out now. Thank you.

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kristie

Yes of course. I forgot to mention I have every Lightfoot album as well.

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Steve

If you want a quick feeling for the power of Stan and his brother Garnet check out the three You-tube performances listed on the page if you google his name.

Stan was Canadian folk music for a brief period. I think he was just 32 or so when he died, his best years were ahead of him. Happy listening.

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kristie

Hello-Just a quick question. I want to listen to more Canadian folk music(after spending some time with Canadian Rock n' Roll) from the 60's and 70's. Can you recommend some artists for me? I have all of Bruce Cockburn's albums, most of Ian and Slyvia's(along with their later solo albums), and a few Buffy albums. I also have a bit of Murray Mclaughlin.

My favorite Bruce Cockburn albums are "High winds, White sky," and "Sunwheel Dance," so anything in a similar vein would be great.

I have been educating a lot of people my age on Canadian music, and it is shocking how little Canadians my age know. Out of the hundred or so people I have played Bruce Cockburn for only four people had heard him! Funny they all knew Joni Mitchell and Neil Young...but they thought they were American, which granted, they do live there and have for many years...but they thought they were born in America!

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Steve

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bob w.

Tom Waits press conference with a perfect conclusion.

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bob w.

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Steve

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abby

Saw Hiatt & Lovett Valentine's Night. Entertaining night. Took me a while to figure out why their routine felt so familiar then it dawned on me. They're a Smothers Brothers ripoff! I wish I'd sat close enough to see if Hiatt was rolling his eyes in disgust and Lovett had a goofy look on his face. But that's okay. I loved the SMothers Brothers. They may have even been funnier than the S. Brothers and the music was definitely a lot better this time around. Band connection? Somehow they got on the subject of movies and Hiatt said that Levon Helm had talked to him about this video he was going to make and he told Hiatt he had a part for him. He would be playing someone who dies. He says Levon told him (and he did a fairly good impression of Levon) "you can do it any way you want. Hell, you can pee in your pants if you want to. It don't matter!" And he went on and on and it was much funnier coming from Hiatt.

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Steve

They showed the first attempted march across the Pettus bridge with the attack by the local cops and militia.

This morning I'm continuing my march through the US Civil War and am reading about the battles in the Chattanooga Campaign and there by jimminy is Confederate Brigadier General, Edmund W Pettus.

I guess it was fitting that that repugnant scene would take place on a bridge named for a hero of the Confederacy complete with mounted horse back charge against peaceful marchers.

It was sort of like getting to watch the last dying charge of the Confederacy on film almost 100 years to the day after the end of the original war.

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rosalind

... and this one's for all of us.

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rosalind

Thanks for that Peter, I enjoyed it. Link is for you.

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Peter V

Subject: Hoskyns on Waits

Link goes to the Sunday Times review of Barney Hoskyns new book on Tom Waits, Lowside of The Road. Hoskyns, like Roz, is a fan of both The Band and Tom Waits. As with The Band, he had trouble getting people to talk to him about Waits. The review's conclusion is particularly interesting.

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Northern Boy

Subject: Bonk: The Quiz

Sorry Bonk (and Bill), the quiz is on hold but I'll return to it. I suddenly had to spend this weekend getting organized in order to scoot to Toronto mid-week for about 5 days on family business. Don't allow the place to go all "fact-based" and "boringlystraightforward" in my absence. NB

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Friend0

What I meant was that i'd have to hear the cd you were physically going to hear. And the reason is cd factories fuck up al the time. I've learned this first hand, i've had full runs fucked up, and half runs fucked up. So, even if a cd is recorded well, someone can buy a fucked up sounding cd.

Funny thing, and small world. A guy here, who knew nothing bout the flooring business, went into the flooring business. He was looking for people to bail him out. I've been doing a little marketing for him. The first time we met, i asked him what the hell possessed him to buy the franchise he bought, and what he did before. Turns out originally he was in dvdS, then hew orked for a dvd/ cd factory here in brooklyn. That i didn't know existed. He is a keyboard player, we started talking music and sound. of ocurse i bugged about digital sound and cd manufacturing. He then boasted how the factory he worked for here has twenty lines running, but then admitted that yes, "they are not necessarily all tuned the same way". Which means that in a job where more than one line is used, even if the stampers are made the same, the product coming off different lines will be different. Of course, not to mention that there s only one right way for a machine to be calibrated.Any differentiation will mean a differnetiation in what the sound should be. So, even on a job tha is run on one line,. if the meache is not perfectly calibrated, the sound is notgoign to be the same sound as the master.

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rosalind

YEAH! Don't it make ya wanna just knock a little old lady's "God Loves You" sign out of her hand, get up in her face real close while she's crying and scream "you're a ho you homophobic bitch"

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BONK

NB. Where is part two? It's 3:55 here on the Best Coast and I'm bored.

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JQ

Those pricks; they got over polygamy just a couple of generations ago and now they wage battle against gay marriage in Calif; all within this modern "definition of marriage" noise. These American so-called Christians have just hijacked the whole idea with their right-end politics, death penalty & war lust and now this unholy treatment of gays.

It's enough to make one a nonbeliever altogether.

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Friend0

James Crutchfield. I used to see him with Bennie Smith at The Venice Cafe in St Louis. Both died during this decade,Crutchfield first, Bennie bout two years ago. Crtuchfield played & recorded with Elmore James amongst others.

White Blues Singers. There is a Vivino Brothers cd out, which may or may not be the same as the original. The one i see out now, may be slightly altered. But the one i have, has some excellent singing by Jimmy. Knockin Myself Out, Sinner's Prayer, etc. The original recording, was digital, and had a real thin sound. Performances were great, sound was dry and brittle. Now there is a version in Super Audio. whether that helps or not, your guess is as good or mine.

Some pretty good female white blues singers around too. Michele Wilson for one.

But, it still ain't the same thing.

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Joan

Subject: Simon & Garfunkel at the Beacon

If Paul and Art can get together at the Beacon, why can't Robbie and Levon. I know, "Fat Chance', but wouldn't it be nice.

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Steve

Roz, I hate to have to keep you up to speed on these things but what the hell.

God speaks directly to these men. He tells them if they need more than one woman, go get'em. Isn't that better than men sneaking around with a bunch of demon women. This way it's all legit, even God seems to be OK with it.

When you checked the site was there any update on the rumour that god was going to do a cameo this season? What a ratings buster that would be, might rival the Beatles on Sullivan for audience share. I'd watch.

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rosalind

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Charlie Y

Jesse Winchester clearly still loves Canada even though he moved back to the US. Of the six shows he has lined up for this year, half of them are in Cananda.

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Peter V

Karen from Tn. asked an interesting question which was ignored about classic blues songs.

Here's a few by white performers … add anything by Geoff Muldauer.

The Rolling Stones: Little Red Rooster

Link Wray: Tail Dragger

Hot Tuna: Hesitation Blues

Cyril Davies & His All Stars: Country Line Special

Little Joe Cook (Chris Farlowe): Stormy Monday Blues

Van Morrison: Help Me (from it’s Too Late To Stop Now)

Dion: Don’t Start Me Talkin’

Spencer Davis Group: Dimples

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Joan

It amazes me the stuff people will buy on Ebay.

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Peter M.

Subject: Black Crowes

I was half expecting the '90's Band song, "Remedy" ("you've got the cure, you've got the key, you've got the remedy"). I was looking forward to Crowes guitar work on Jimmy Weider's parts. Sheeit! On the YouTube comments someone wrote that only the Black Crowes would do a song called "Remedy".

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Zzzz

Maybe they were offended by the lizardskin-tight leather pants...

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dlew919

Are you there? I'm a little concerned - I haen't heard from Glen in months, or Julie in Months. And I miss empty's wisdom...

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Norbert

The Black Crowes: Remedy (great).

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rosalind

Happy Valentine's Day Everybody

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rosalind

Anyone here ever heard of Ezra Taft Benson? He was Secretary of Agriculture under President Eisenhower. Look him up and try and read or listen to what he said back in the fifties concerning America's future.

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Lil

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viagra

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Joan

Subject: Nick Lowe's Best of

A good sampling of Nick Lowe's new Best of

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Ilkka

Subject: ... but where is EMPTY NOW?

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Ilkka

Subject: Shakespere/The Band/Judaism

Thanks PETER V for mentioning "WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE" in this gb. When I was 16 years old I got his complete works as a Christmas present. WOW!!! (I didn't understand a thing.)

Don't get me wrong, My interest is purely academic. I have studied Christian theology and History of religions at the University in Finland in the early 70s. I had to learn even basic HEBREW and LATIN ...hard times it was. Happily(?) I have forgot everything. But there is a thought which is haunting in my mind ever since: The Band and Judaism. It would be a great thing to read an article by Peter V!

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Norbert

Subject: first historical post from the livingroom

Got the new Aldi (Akoya P8610) laptop! Here my first post from the livingroom (instead of the study). Now have plans to post from the garden in summer and other exciting places to come.

Serenity thamks for your nice words the other day, hope all is well, love ya.

It is said that during WWI soldiers often feel the presents, or actualy see their falen comrads. Robert Graves writes in his Good-bey To All That:

'I saw a ghost at Béthume. He was a man called Private Challoner whio had been at Lancaster with me and again in F Company at Wexham.. When he went out with a draft to join the First Batalion he shook my hand and said: "I'll meet you again in France, sir" He had been killed in Festubért in May and in June he passed by our C Company, billet where we were just having a special dinner to selebrate our safe return from Cuinchy. There was fish, new potatoes, green peas, asparagus, mutton chops, strawberries and cream and three bottles of Pommard. Challoner looked in at the window saluted and passed on. There was no mistaking him or the cap-badge he was wearing. There was no Royal Welch batalion within miles of Béthune at the time. I jumped up and looked out of the window, but saw nothing except a fag-end smoking on the pavement. Ghosts were numerous in France at the time.'

Maybe Garth, Robbie or Levon sometimes see, hear or feel Richard or Rick sing and play along with them and then, looking over their shoulder, they too see nothing except a fag-end smoking on the pavement.

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Charlie Y

Say what you will about Jim Morrison, but one thing you have to admit is the guy was a true artist who didn't give a crap about money. He's the one who went on Ed Sullivan's bigtime live TV show and--career be damned--sang the unexpurgated words to "Light My Fire" despite demands of the Sullivan team (unlike proper Mick Jagger, who dutifully deballed a Rolling Stones' classic into "Let's Spend SOME TIME Together").

Having just seen Oliver Stone's dull film about Bush, "W," I was reminded of his film about The Doors (probably because the DVD includes an ad for the Blu-Ray version of that earlier Oliver Stone epic) and how a guy who was very familiar with the Los Angeles music scene in the 1960s--David Crosby--made the effort to write and record a song about the inaccuracy of that depiction of Jim Morrison.

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Pat B

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Frank Matas

Subject: Christ and folk

I luv you and hail Christ. Good sounds for the soul of a christian man

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Lil

And yes, Buick did contact the Doors about using "Light my Fire" in an ad (I believe it was in 1968)for their 'new' Buick Opel (SP?). The catch phrase they wanted to use was "C'mon Buick light my Fire". Morrison was out of town when they were approached, and since Krieger actually wrote the song, he figured it was ok for him to ok the use of it.(Songwriting credits up until that point were equal for all 4 members...25% each) Morrison freaked when he came back since the decision was made without him. He called Buick and told them he'd sledgehammer a Buick onstage if they ran the ad. They didn't. Morrison's reason was that the art was not for sale for comercial use. an ideal that John Densmore defends to this day.

If there's anything else you'd like to know, feel free to e-mail me since this is The Band guestbook, and I don't want to overload these good people on something they probably don't care about. Thanks.

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roz

Hope this works for you. Evidently the entire show may been seen as there are comments about Levon's wonderful performance in the comments section. I didn't know you were Israli, Ari. Hope you're safe....

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Ari S.

Subject: Levon Helm Film

This'll be good fer me (not for Robbie though).

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Ari S.

Is there any way I could watch Levon on Conan if I'm not America or Europe. It doesn't work from Israel (NBC.com that is). How was, did Conan praise him alot because of Jimmy. What'd they play?

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rosalind

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Bayou Sam

Still there, huh?

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joe j

Subject: Valentines

Got tickets for a sold out show tomorrow night. Should get me some Brownie points

Have to settle for 'Exile on Main Street' and an old Jameson's tonight.

Life ain't that bad, hey?

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rosalind

For Karen

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rosalind

For Karen..

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rosalind

For Karen.

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Karen

Subject: In a bluesy mood

I was just thinking of some of my fav. blues songs recorded by white artists. A couple of my favs. are "Crossroads"(Cream) & "Walkin' Blues"(Butterfield Blues Band). Would love to read other's comments on this subject.

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David P.

Steve: Salman Rushdie is currently a distinguished writer in residence at Emory University here in Atlanta. There is a music connection, as his novel "The Ground Beneath Her Feet" was a modern version of the Orpheus & Eurydice Greek myth set in the world of rock & roll. U2 recorded a song by the same name which adapted lyrics from the novel and featured Daniel Lanois on pedal steel guitar.

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Steve

I asked because I was curious as to what anyone else would have come up with as the reason why the, I A Told Ya, what's his name, put out a religious hit on, Sal Bass AKA Salman Rushdie.

While there were many potential affronts to Islamic believers for me the most obvious was the writing of the Koran.

In the story almost everyone seems to have more than one name and the names are always changing slightly, which is the case of the guy who actually takes dictation from Mahound AKA Mohammed, in the writing of the Koran.

By the time he's taking dictation he's simply called The Persian.

God's word is being passed to Mahound by the angel Gabrielle and Mahound dictates to the Persian as he receives each new passage from the angel.

The Persian who is a well known poet and has a rebellious streak starts out taking down the messages and making small changes that he thinks read better than God's words.

When Mahound has him read back what he's written he doesn't seem to notice any changes so the Persian becomes emboldened making all kinds of changes to the words God is sending down to earth slowly taking over the writing of the Koran himself.

Too bad no one else has read the book. I should have mentioned it when Empty was around.

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bob w.

Kevin, they've been at or very near the top of my list for as long as I've known of them. A fabulous band. Recently I've been taken by how much Ronnie Lane's voice reminds me of George Harrison's.

If you fish around on YouTube a bit more you will find some other great Faces video and also Ronnie Lane with his band, Slim Chance.

This one ends a bit abruptly but is beautiful nonetheless. Great stuff.

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David P.

Subject: Ronnie Lane

Here's a link to my favourite Ronnie Lane song. Ooh-La-La!

"I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was younger"

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Joan

Fantastic! Thanks.

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Kevin J

Subject: Great Songs

bob w: So true!! That clip led to the one above which is sheer Rock n Roll Heaven for me. Faces doing "Maybe I'm Amazed" ...........Stunning

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Peter V

Lil, I’m genuinely interested because Selwood’s book has a LOT of information about record labels, and I'm interested in how accurate he is, and I’ve noticed a couple of things before that one might doubt. He’s convinced that Jonathan King was innocent, for example. He is clearly a very loyal friend (and was undoubtedly close to Morrison and King). I’d wondered whether the incident in Miami was in Light My Fire at all … I know that some (the police) say they saw it, some said they didn’t. And that Morrison at least allegedly suggested the audience would LIKE to see it (which doesn't mean they did). Was that in or around Light My Fire? Was there ever such a Buick ad? You probably know this, but the timing issue was all to do with phones - Paris phoned Selwood in London. Selwood phoned the US management, who didn’t know, but then got to Paris too quickly from the USA. All very circumstantial, and this sort of disbelief is reasonably common in such cases.

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bob w.

Not sure if the great Ronnie Lane got a mention in the recent conversation. If not, he should have.

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Bill M

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Lil

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Lil

Morrison pointed nothing in Miami. It's been a nice little myth, but it never happened. I know this from people who were there.Was Selwood there? I don't think so... Also, Morrison's 'breakdown' in Miami had nothing to do with the Buick ad. It had to do with his disgust over fans wanting to see a 'freak show' instead of just wanting to hear the music. I have the entire Miami show on tape with every word Morrison said that night. Yeah he was pissed.. and drunk.. but Buick had nothing to do with it.

As far as Selwood's idea that Morrison didn't die in '71... I'd cite the actual paramedic and police reports from that day that state he certainly did. Obviously Mr. Selwood hasn't seen those. I have.

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Peter V

All this talk of Pete Seeger naturally leads me to The Doors. Clive Selwood’s “All The Moves” book has a chapter on them, as he worked closely with them at Elektra. One thing I didn’t know. Selwood says the Florida flasher incident had a reason. He says Buick had licensed Light My Fire without Morrison’s knowledge, and ran an ad with “Buick, Light My Fire”. Morrison was understandably incensed, so deliberately decided to “point Percy at the public” (as Barry McKenzie might say) during Light My Fire onstage. When the fuss erupted, he asked what that made of the Buick ad, and would they still be able to use it.

For The Doors fans (or perhaps fan) out there, Selwood says that in the months before his death, Morrison repeatedly asked him if he had achieved the status where he would become a legend if he died. Selwood believes that he didn’t die in 1971, and he was dealing with the news phone calls between London, Paris and the USA at the time and cites some odd timing discrepancies. He believes he decided to disappear. He also comments that he reckons he has died subsequently, because otherwise there would have been a fuss over the Oliver Stone film, which he says is totally inaccurate.

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David P.

The Blind Boys of Alabama won a Grammy for Best Traditional Gospel album for "Down In New Orleans". Lead singer Jimmy Lee Carter may be close to Pete Seeger's age, as Mr. Carter is the only original member of the group which was founded in 1939.

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Charlie Y

By the way: that "Chest Fever" item on eBay is a t-shirt, not a poster--and they have the lyrics wrong!

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David P.

Among the nominees that Mr. Seeger beat in the Best Traditional Folk category were his half-sister Peggy Seeger and Tom Paxton. All three of these releases were from Appleseed Recordings.

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Steve

Charlie, is Peter Seeger the oldest winner for a piece of new work?

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rosalind

This guy's very talented. Give him a listen.

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rosalind

I've thought it over some and I have come to the conclusion that the Siberian prisoners, in seeing the forty toothless "cows" a comin', would actually be lickin their chops fer somethin' else! See, well.. nevermind.

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rosalind

He's one of them PETA people, ain't he? You put that guy in a Burger King or a KFC commercial and watch the stampede. He'd sell more meat than forty toothless whores in a Siberian prison camp.

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Serenity

Subject: Joaquin Phoenix

LINK: ROZ: Here's the link that will explain everything JP is into and why. It is not a hoax as many want to believe. Casey Affleck [his bro-in-law]is filming a docu all about the changes. The link may be delayed, if it doesn't go through then I will copy and paste it.

Thanks for asking. We, his fans, are very disappointed in his changes.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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rosalind

Subject: Serenity - What do you think this guy's doing? It's a mystery to me.

Serenity is a great fan of Joaquin Phoenix. I would love to hear her take on his temporary insanity. I assume he's attempting to pull off a Andy Kaufman. If he is, it's a boring Andy Kaufman.

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Bashful Bill

Subject: feelin feverish

Believe it or not, there's a Chest Fever poster on sale on Ebay right now, complete with lyrics......

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Charlie Y

The Random House Unabridged Dictionary defines "mooncalf" as "a congentially grossly deformed and mentally defective person" placing "Chest Fever" right there in the world of classic Fellini, Dylan circa '65-'66, Springsteen circa 1972 ("Wild Billy's Circus Story") and early Tom Waits. Not to mention that movie I've never seen, "Carny," starring that Jaime Robertson guy. Or Tod Browning's eerie 1930's masterpiece "Freaks." That one is out on DVD, why isn't "Carny?"

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NB

Sure thing Stevon, just post your phone number here and you'll certainly be receiving a call from me in the morning, as per your instructions. And hopefully about a hundred calls tomorrow evening from tele-marketers. NB.

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Kristie

Thank you for clearing that up all.

And some new ideas to think about.

Roz-"Trackers" sound like assholes! I had just assumed they were gold diggers.

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Tim

Band and Danko as influence..

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rosalind

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Bill M

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Charlie Y

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Steve

Mannish Northern Boy, you're so full of calf scour-like material you're leaving a trail. I recommend, Terracmycin/ 5cc's per 45kg's of body weight, plenty of fluids, and a tbs of Kaopectate for the tummy. Call me in the morning.

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Charlie Y

...and "it's long, long when she's gone..."

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Bill M

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Charlie Y

Someone mentioned high school in regard to "Chest Fever" and it was a favorite my best friend used to like blasting from the huge pair of speakers he built himself (he worked his way up to building his own house). Anyway, there is certainly a surface feel of adolescent lust, obsession or longing in the song--paired with that macho intro and the odd, disoriented little "horny" interlude in the middle. It's an amazingly timeless, cryptic song--like the best of "Blonde on Blonde." Oddly, that 1970 song book lists the song as a 1968 (unpublished) composition, and credits it to JAIME Roberston. All the other songs in that book are either J. Robbie Robertson or Jaime Robbie Robertson, while only one is credited to Robbie Robertson. He seems to have been going through an identity crisis.

But back to "Chest Fever," which can be interpreted in many ways beyond that lusty high school level. Is the woman a drug addict ("I know she's a tracker" probably isn't about a fur hunter given the fact Robbie was hanging out with people like Janis Joplin)? Is she an adulterer ("any scarlet would back her" could be like Nathaniel Hawthorne's use of the color)? She's clearly a figure from the underworld as she's "been down in the dunes...dealt with the goons."

Getting back to the "stone" or "stoned" question, the latter leads back to a Joplin-like character, while stone has so many more complex meanings. She's cold. She's a friggin' statue! She's the archetypal unattainable goddess. Maybe.

Meanwhile our hero is "like a viper in shock with [his] eyes in the clock." Pure surrealism, right out of Dali--or an outtake line from "Visions of Johanna."

I love the fact Robbie writes the lyrics off as nonsense since it is actually one of his most interesting lyrics in my book.

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Joan

BEG, Are you around? Everything OK? Has anyone heard from Angie? Does anybody have an e-mail address for her?

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Bill M

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Northern Boy

HO contraire. IMUS committed to non fact-based thinking as I've ever been. But I concede how essential facts are for non-divergent thinkers such as yourself Steve, hence my correcting of your erroneous use of them. That's all. I still subscribe to the view expounded by my neighbour a few miles up the canyon from me, WP Kinsella, the author of "Shoeless Joe" aka "Field of Dreams". "As for facts, make them up as you need them" he advises. There's a very slight chance he only meant that to apply to the writing of fiction, but I've made it the guiding principle of my life just to be on the safe side.

My thought for the day: "Existentialism: Where would we be without it ?" NB

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Brien Sz

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Charlie Y

There's one interesting difference between the "Chest Fever" lyrics posted on Jan's site and those in the offical 1970 songbook which included the fist two LPs by The Band (as well as "Get Up, Jake). Instead of "She's STONED" the line reads "she's STONE." Big difference.

Maybe "the Swede" who speaks that line is the brilliant Swedish filmmaker, Ingmar Bergman, who once said, "I want audiences to SENSE my films. This to me is much more important than UNDERSTANDING them..."

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Steve

Instead of wondering whether the outrageous price being demanded to stay ahead of the curve will be money well spent,we pick up the "out of date" castoffs of people on the leading edge that line the side of the information highway.

My Sanyo mp3 player literally came off the road. A friend's son slammed the MP3 in the back hatch of their car. I was driving behind them on the way to a hockey game and I could see something hanging out of the back of their car dragging on the road.

I got their attention by flashing my lights. What I saw dragging on the road were the earphones that were still plugged into the player.

We opened the hatch and saw that the player had been wedged under the hatch and the screen was cracked.

The son looked at it and declared it useless, he'd need another one it was a 2 years old and horribly out of date anyway.

I offered to take it off his hands and it's still in daily use 2 years later.

I think description of the threshing machine we were using as recently as 15 years ago shows this attitude to towards technology permeates many facets of life here on the farm.

I'll pay the postage when that kindle machine becomes outdated.

NB, Stevon Farm, in association with SNN, are taking full credit for your apparent 180 degree, U Turn, on the importance that "facts" are now playing in your life.

I googled that same page to find the merger year for Massey and Harris but since I thought I was still dealing with a boy who has no use for facts, I didn't use a precise date. I like to keep the postie in mind when I make a post. Could we soon start seeing you posting under Mannish, Northern Boy? Maybe you could start today as a nod of the noggin in the direction of the Mr Evolution on his 200th birthday.

What a day that was for the birth of people who'd still be making waves 200 years later. Happy birthday Misters, Darwin and Lincoln.

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Bill M

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Brien Sz

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Bill M

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David P.

"Throw enough sh*t against the wall, and somebody'll see a picture in it."
--Cowboy Jack Clement's third universal truth

"A lot of people have recorded that song, and I've never heard anybody record it with the right words. I know when they're wrong, but I just can't remember, 'cause I don't ever sing the song. I'm sure Richard and Levon who sang it would remember though. I wrote quite a few songs."
--Robbie Robertson in 1969 interview with Howard Gladstone

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dlew919

Bob - I think you are right when you state that publishers are now starting to wrestle the same bear that music did: what I suspect will happen is that small publishers, ahead of the game, and prepared to risk, will take off, small 'traditional' publishers will go to the wall, and the big boys will try and work out how to continue doing what they always do - screw the author, editor and reader ...

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bob w.

As for the distribution of dollars, I would say to all who have a stake.....welcome to a rapidly changing world. We've all watched the music industry struggle to come to grips with the new technologies and I'm sure the book publishers are wrestling a very similar bear right now. Is anyone sweating today's power companies' fates as the green shift to solar, wind and other alternative energies occurs? They will get onboard or they will go the way of the eight track cartridge. It is what creates opportunity for innovation and drives the free market.

I haven't hit the "Buy" button yet, but I'm close. If nothing else the product has created an interesting case study that seems to reflect a great deal of what is happening in the consumer tech market.

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Peter V

kindle … kindling … Fahrenheit 451 … book burning?

An issue for authors will be royalties. Ten years ago British authors were suggesting a 50 / 50 split with publishers for online publishing, because the publisher is no longer designing, printing, warehousing, transporting etc. American organizations suggested 75 / 25 in favour of the author (I thought that ambitious). Yet publishers are still coming up with “half the normal royalty for electronic versions” in initial proposals, i.e. half of (say) 10%. Thirty years ago, 10% meant 10% of cover price. Now it means 10% of price received by the publisher. Consider that amazon can take take a 55% discount, and most small stores even take 35%.

OK, a publisher may go to 50/50 for online confronted with a contracts lawyer. Then they’ll put more promotion into other stuff at 5%- the same happened to Paul McCartney with his very high royalty rates with EMI. They let stuff sink.

On a Kindle, I’d guess there are a limited number of set pre-design and layout patterns and fonts, and that there is software which will read in the text from a WORD manuscript … so even page design and layout gets cut from the publisher’s function. So they line edit and market. Now if even the last Garrison Keillor gets a character name wrong and has typos (and it has), you can see that editing standards are not what they were.

In one way, it’s a huge opportunity for small / self publishers, in that their costs are reduced to marketing alone (not that it’s insignificant!) However, for the foreseeable future, they’ll need to produce a print copy as well, for review and bookstore presence, albeit in smaller quantities. So design, layout costs still remain.

The final thing about the Kindle, is that in an interview on radio, the manufacturers said “It’ll be much better in three years. We’re working on a flexible LCD screen which will be fantastic.” Bad pitch. It makes most people think, ‘So I’ll wait.”

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jh

Subject: Chest Fever

Check out Peter's article about the song (link above).

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the anonymous internet rumour guy, dlew919

Subject: Chest fever

My friwnd, who met Robbie once, and went to see a Dylan concert, swears it's about buying drugs off Anton LeVey, ans then taking those drugs, and how they all signed up in1969 to the church of Satan, and then the drummer through a tv out the window and choked on his own vomit and then a black dog walked into the room, and ... Oh wait, tha's Led Zeppelin./n

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work

Subject: home online work

home online work: http://forums.kiplinger.com/member.php?u=53979 http://tinyurl.com/afy4qs

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Charlie Y

Kristie: I'd say the simple answer to your question is that "Chest Fever" is about lust. Supposedly some of the images were taken from Robbie's exposure to a lot of classic European cinema at the time. Dylan was always talking about "La Strada" and those sort of "art house" films and that may have influenced that interest. I saw a bunch of Bergman, Truffaut, Fellini and others in college film courses and often asked, "what the hell is this about?"

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Garcon de Nord (Not pronounced NERD !)

Any purely Harris part would be from 1890 or earlier. Any Massey-Harris part would be from 1891 to 1953 when the merger with Ferguson took place. I hope you've checked out the value of these parts, Steve, if you still have them. They might be worth something (ie. don't just let them rust out in the back-Ford E.).

As Bill mentioned, the "As Shit Happens" theme is certainly from Moe's music. But I rarely listen to CBC so I'm basically stumped by your questions. I should listen to CBC. If Byrnes gets his show, I certainly will. We had the Bach and Vivaldi Kaufman albums in our house when I was growing up. I think my Mom went into Toronto more than once to hear Kaufman at a place called "George's Spaghetti House". Not sure though. Not sure about much, actually. NB

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Lars

Subject: Chest Fever

Zzzz- I think you hit the nail on the head. "Chest Fever" is really about four of The Band members going offstage for a glass of water, a quick wipe of the brow with a towel, and a quick hit...before they drifted back onstage to watch Garth finish the intro. Robbie's lyrics were never re-written and make about as much sense as his "dummy" lyrics on other songs he never got to finish (e.g. "Stampeding cattle...they rattle the walls").

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Zzzz

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Zzzz

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Kristie

I have my own interpretation of it, but can somebody please explain to me what the hell this song is about? I know I should already know after two years in the GB.....

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Friend0

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Karen

Subject: Brendan Benson & Jack White

I was a little slow to respond due to power being off today. I don't know Mr. Benson personally so I can't speak for him on his own thoughts. As for Jack White, Meg(White) might be in the way. I still agree to disagree on The Raconteurs' music.Oh, well.

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Joan

As a clarinet player in high school, I remember Elkhart as the home of Selmer instruments. I believe they merged with Conn the brass instrument maker. In school, we played a piece call "Overture Elkhart 1960 " (I think I have the year right,) The oomposer was given a grant by Selmer thus the name.

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NB

Not my kind of music either Bill, so I was hoping likewise for you, giving me an ever-so-slim chance of sneaking one by you. Funny sometimes how you end up seeing performers live that you wouldn't normally walk across the street to see even if it was free. But some friend or family member who digs them wants you to accompany them, so there you are ! I'm sure it was one of those deals when I saw Manteca. For sure it was one of those deals when I ended up seeing Cleo Laine at Massey Hall once. But as far as I know it didn't harm me any. But on the other hand, my tinnitus and hyperacusis had to come from somewhere and since I've never heard Celine live (nor will I), I guess I shouldn't rule out Cleo too quickly. She did have an amazing range, but Jazz generally leaves me cold, except for Dixieland. Start thinking Barrie and OriLLia (one L for Lightfoot, one L for Leacock), The CNE Bandshell, and Bay Ridges for the next installment of my quiz. Probably the weekend.

Bonk: I don't think three out five is bad at all on the quiz.

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bob w.

Springsteen's Super Bowl journal entry.

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BONK

Oops. Had Kildare mixed up with Casey. Thanks, Bill.

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Bill M

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Bill M

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BONK

Bill M and NB. I'm not getting the Geeze and Johnny Bower answer? Also didn't know Kaufman had a son. Oh well, three out of 5 ain't bad. But NB almost through me a curve with the reference to Dr. Kildare. I was gonna say something stupid like Sam Jaffe.

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David P.

Subject: Vinyl Siding

Portable sound devices certainly have evolved over the years. Check out photo link above.

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Bill M

All this talk of heavy equipment reminds me of Elkhart Indiana, suddenly famous for a visit by Obama but previously known as the centre of worldwide RV-dom. But Elkhart was also the home of the fabulous Fujimo record label of the '60s, Fujimo being the acronym for F-U Jim O'Something, apparently a despised former associate of the label's only recording artist, Frank Rondell and the Chancellors of Hamilton Ontario. Their third 45, the one recorded in Elkhart, can be found on the compilation at the website noted above. The b-side of their first, which was recorded by the Chateau label mentioned in an earlier post, was what seems to have been the first cover of Robbie Robertson et al's "Someone Like You".

As for Moe Koffman, wasn't the theme to "As It Happens" from one of his recordings? I've certainly heard a snippet from the Bach album as intro/outro music by the CBC. Not to mention "Swinging Shepherd Blues". The son having been in Manteca rings a bell now that you mention it, NB, but I'd never've guessed it. Manteca was never my sort of thing, but I did see them once or twice at Harbourfront - Aaron Davis, Matt Zimbel, a Piltch or two, maybe even Molly Johnson at one point.

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bob w.

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Steve

Actually I'm probably one of the few people who've used a machine recently that actually has Harris parts on it.

That's quite something considering they were bought out by Massey back in the 1890's.

We had and used a Massey Harris threshing machine back in the early 90's.

It was probably made around 1920 but had parts that were stamped with only the Harris name. They were probably from a similar type of machine from an earlier era and were still being used when the thresher was made.

it also had parts from Deere and Company before it became John Deere. It even had parts from companies that were so long gone I'd never heard of them.It was pretty hard to get parts for it.

I've got a Kaufman question for you. Two of his songs get played 5 days a week on CBC radio. Which songs? One of the songs is considered a rip off of a much more well known song. What is that song?

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Bill M

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NB

Well done Bill. It's strange that some articles have Moe's name as Kaufman and others as Koffman, even though they're talking about the same Swinging Shepherd guy. Unless I'm mistaken, his son Herb is an accomplished trumpet player who used to be in a Jazz-fusion group called Manteca, whom I saw somewhere live in Toronto but can't recall where. I bet you've heard of (or heard) them. That was just the relatively easy Part One of the quiz, dealing with Toronto proper. Part 2 will be more challenging and work in the perimeter of the NB triangle (ie. The Bandshell, Barrie/Orillia and Bay Ridges). Wonder if Steve would've got the Massey-Harris tractor connection ? NB

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Peter V

I'll listen to Work Song by anyone, but vying with the Adderley's is the Bobby Darin version from "Earthy". Just Darin and double bass, If you like Work Song, seek it out.

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Bill M

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Charlie Y

If you leave your $8 paperback in an airplane seat it's no big deal, but your $400 Kindle with expensive downloads? Bad news...

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David P.

The Paul Butterfield Band included an 8-minute cover version of "Work Song" on their 1966 "East-West" album, which I've been listening to a lot lately.

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Bill M (not Kevin J)

Sorry Kevin!

In other news, here's a neat clip of Cannonball Adderly's group doing "Work Song". Joe Zawinul on keys, Nat Adderly on trumpet and Oscar Brown hosting - the latter two being the writers of "Work Song". Aside from being a most worthy song, it's also noteworthy for being Richard Bell's first record - as a member of Richie Knight and the Midknights. The Midknights version is very different - very sub-Hawks with Hawkinsish vocal, Robbiesque guitar and both piano and organ.

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Bill M

After Mainline's "Stink" album, Mike Harrison was replaced on bass by journeyman's journeyman Zeke Shepherd, who I posted about on Monday. Zeke's rockabilly group with Dutch Mason moved from Nova Scotia to Toronto in the late '50s. Mason left, the others got involved with Hawkins and Hawkins' farm-team, Jerry Warren and the Tremblers. They also backed up a ton of country and pop records on the important Chateau label (which released four 45s by a guy called Gordie Lightfoot). Then formed his own R&B group, Frank Shepherd and the Good Shepherds, which split on tour in Vancouver. (Organist Robbie King, guitarist Eddie Patterson and bassist Ronnie Banks hooked up with local drumming powerhouse Duris Maxwell and after a bit of gigging as the Good Shepherds got absorbed into Bobby Taylor and the Vancouvers with Tom Chong; Westcoaster: you can ask Susan about Robbie, who does that nice organ bit in "Which Way You Goin' Billy".) Back in Toronto, Shepherd formed a new version of the Good Shepherds with Sonny Bernardi (a Levon Helm protege who wound up in Crowbar). Then Mainline, then Blackstone (whose one album, aka the fourth Rhinoceros album, I've been listening too - great great stuff) then back to C&W. The last I saw of him was on the Tommy Hunter show, which was run and populated by fellow alumni of the Chateau days, singing "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry". Died in Nashville a few years ago.

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Kevin J

Bill M : Is that you masquerading as me....if so can you transport me back to the Yonge Steet strip circa 1961 - I wasn't born yet but hear it was fun!

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Kevin J

Denny Gerrard and Prakash John deserve to be on your list. I agree with Peter V's adds except for Carol Kaye, who is too busy for me to enjoy all that much.

NB: On the fly right now, but will get back to you. Did I ever mention that I did the liner notes for one of the Mainline reissues? ("Blues" on Pacemaker.)

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bassmanlee

I don't know if "behind the scenes", but didn't that Dylan guy have a wee bit of influence?

I would nominate both John Hiatt and Jim Lauderdale to the impressive song catalog contest.

Listening to a recent purchase, Hillbilly Hemingway by The Mark Newton Band. Nice song-oriented bluegrass with some nice vocals and downplay of instrumental virtuosity. Produced by a Carl Jackson, who also co-wrote a few tunes. Any of you 'grass-heads know anything about him?

And lastly, would you take a Kindle to the beach?

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Kevin J

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David P.

Lest we not forget Allen Toussaint, who did the horn arrangements for "Life Is A Carnival" and the Rock of Ages performances.

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bob w.

Kindle....I like the idea alot. The storage capacity is fantastic and you can back up your library on Amazon's servers. If a device can provide that kind of access to great literature, newspapers and magazines I have to give it serious consideration. Obviously, it has important "green" impact as well. My only question now is....jump in or wait for the next version to hit the market?

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Peter V

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bob w.

I wish those guys all the best in their endeavor. I hope many more music lovers come to realize the magic of Richard Manuel's musical talents through their film.

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Kevin J

Kindle: Just as I got fed up over the years, trying to figure out what 10 cd’s I would throw into a bag for any given trip, tossing books into a bag is even worse. Ten times worse than that is being stuck in a hotel on the other side of the world with nothing left to read and not really having the time to get to a bookstore or library……….So, having 40 or so books stored in a book size electronic device with adjustable text size and increasingly “real” feel to the page turning, etc is the future - no doubt about it. The only way I can see the book being saved is if Rappers start to read and figure out a way to spin them at nightclubs………………

TVZ vs John Prine: Other than the lady who carries knives in both hands…..anyone else of the view that John Prine has the superior catalogue of songs? I have been revisiting his work of late and it is much better than I remember. TVZ is also great but Prine just seems underrated to me. Living has a way of doing that to artists.

Bassman – Thank you

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Charlie Y

Subject: Behind the Scenes Musicians

Though not officially available for some reason, the TV cartoon based on the early Beatles is on YouTube. I watched part of a "Good Day Sunshine" video and was amused to see the animated John Lennon playing piano on the song. I looked up the session player information, expecting to find McCartney's name in the piano slot. I was surprised to learn it was actually Sir George Martin on the ivories.

Besides John Simon for a short period, were there any other musicians who quietly contributed to the sound of The Band?

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David P.

Peter: Be careful what you wish for. The Doors will be up next in the future, as Mr. Hoffman will be doing gold CD reissues of "Morrison Hotel" and "Soft Parade". (:-)

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Mike

From this past Saturday in New Jersey: The Battle is Over Same Thing Ophelia Simple Twist Love Played a Game I Wanna Know Long Black Veil Got Me a Woman Ashes of Love Whisperin' Sea Deep Elum Blues Train Robbery Time to Ring Changes Anna Lee Rag Mama Rag Mardi Gras Day Holy Cow Jealous Man Rain Down Tears Across the Great Divide Time Out for the Blues Everybody Loves a Winner Shape I'm In Chest Fever The Weight Thanks to Dawn posting on the http://www.levonhelm.com/ Guestbook!

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Mike

Subject: Hollywood Bowl live tracks of The Band.

The Myspace page "The Crackers" has some live tracks from the 07/10/70 "Hollywood Bowl" performance.

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bob w.

Great job by Levon and the band last night. Always good to see him out there making music.

If you scroll over to 33:30 and hit the "Large Screen" option you will be able to enjoy last night's two song performance. Sorry, there's no avoiding the ads.

Enjoy!

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dlew919

I'll tell you. (Waits for crowd to disperse)...

It may be George Carlin said this - this is not an original ideaq from me (like that will ever happen ... ahem), but anyway, the point was once made that when you're at someone's house, their book and record collection is on display - you can get a sense of who they are, what they think, what they like, what their interests/tastes are...

Picking up an electronic gizmo is it seems to me, an invasion of privacy. 'Oh, hi, erm, I was just looking at your book and cd... erm... you know you've only got $150.00 in the bank, and your phone bill and electricity bill are coming out next week? Oh, and you're short of feminine hygiene products - you might pick some up next time you're ... OW!'

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Peter M.

Subject: television

Nice Conan show tonight. Now the average couch potato gets a chance to experience a taste of the Ramble. Nearly the entire band was up, including Justin on the spring-water-gravel-jugamajig. There were 14 musicians on stage, and they sounded like they do this all the time. Oh... they do.

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Fred

Steve: in case that Willie Dixon Chess Box Set is too much, there is a CD that has tracks culled from it. It's called "Willie Dixon The Original Wang Dang Doodle". Two other CDs I have that are good ---well I think they are, so...I guess they are ; ) "Willie's Blues" and a live recording of Willie Dixon & Memphis Slim in France "Aux Trois Mailletz".

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rosalind

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Tim

Subject: Richard manuel documentary

update

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bassmanlee

was likely the aforementioned Victor Wooten, Kevin.

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Brien Sz

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bob w.

I know I wouldn't mind having a 1,200 book library in such a compact package.

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Peter V

10 seconds between sides? Great idea, but I'd have to go back in a time machine to calculate whether it was long enough.

First there's a respectful silence. Then everyone says, 'Wow, Hey, Wow, Shit' etc. Then there's a minor argument.

Turn it over.

You're nearest.

Oh, go on …

Well, OK …

Why don't we put on The Doors next?

Piss off!

You're f•cking joking.

Sorry.

OK, who was going to turn it over?

I'll do it.

Be careful …

Ten seconds? Not really long enough.

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Joan

Didn't Tom Petty have an unmarked pause on one of his CDs so the vinyl folk could catch up?

Jan H keep practicing, you never know. :-D

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David P.

A little advance info on the upcoming Audio Fidelity gold CD version of The Brown Album. According to mastering engineer Steve Hoffman, there's 10 seconds of silence between the end of "Whispering Pines" and the beginning of "Jemima Surrender", representing the break between the original LP sides. Those who grew up in the age of vinyl will recall that the time it took to flip over the LP to the other side allowed you time to catch your breath and perhaps grab a certain pause that refreshes & quenches the thrist.

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Peter V

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Kevin J

“Some people look at the glass and see it as half full...Others see it as half empty....I see a glass that’s twice as big as it should be.” – George Carlin

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Kevin J

Jh: You were just one letter away from being one of my favourite bands of all time. The description you provided could have been the job description the Pistols posted when hiring Sid……………..

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Charlie Y

Subject: The Kindle Book Burner?

Bob: I have used the Sony Reader but that demo video of the new version of Amazon's wireless Kindle2 e-reader makes it seem much more impressive. I'm with Joan on CDs vs. downloads and--like the late John Updike--I love the feel and smell of books. I think a certain wealthy segment of the popluation will love the e-reader (Wall Street types who like the portable device for train travel, for instance), but I think books will be around for a while.

I'm not so sure about newspapers, though. Jon Stewart had a good discussion with Walter Isaacson about the uncertain future of newspapers last night. I knew Mr. Stewart was a crossword puzzle guy, but didn't know he loves the same newspaper and coffee ritual in the morning that I do. He did go to college in Old Virginny, though...

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Steve

I don't know if anyone else watched that show but it gave me a new respect for Carlin.

I hadn't seen much of his work from the 80's 90's and from this millennium, but I came away with renewed respect for the guy.

He never lost his desire, his work ethic and his insights were bang on.

Some of those incredible performances that were rapid fire and lasted for 5 minutes or so were awesome.

Funny how he had that lazy, whacked out hippy persona and at the same time was a full time blue collar working comic.

Joan Rivers said he was the one comic who never fell flat. He literally put hundreds of hours of work into each segment of his routine. Watching him sitting on Johnny's couch, doing some completely bizarre character while Johnny has tears coming out of his eyes brought back some great memories of both George and Johnny.

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jh

Subject: non-singing-non-songwriting-no-musical-talent-at-all bass "player"

See link.

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Steve

What a bad day I had yesterday. First, some CBC program asked people to put forward names of Canada's most sexy and cerebral men. It must have been BEG's voice I heard pushing J2Rs, had to be. His was the only name I heard from the music world. I'm sure Leonard must have been nominated but it was only a small sampling that they played.

Then as I turned on the radio in my woodworking shop some dink decided we should listen to The Rhinestone Doughboy singing Sweet Caroline. AAAHHHHHHH!

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Joan

Good to see you around. Do you still have our Robbie site? I looked for it but couldn't find it.

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Joan

Simon, thank you for that great clip. Now I remember why I liked him so much. Sadly that song kind of mirrors his life.

Bob W, the Kindle fascinates me, but I still like to hold and touch a book. Just as I like CD's not downloads. I know I'm a Luddite but...

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David P.

Subject: Don't Tell Me Nothin'

Willie Dixon also worked with Robbie on "The Color of Money" soundtrack and appeared with him in the "Going Home" video documentary.

Steve: A good starting place for a songlist is the Willie Dixon Chess box set (see link).

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Peter V

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Kevin J

Another one………….Robbie Shakeseare of Sly and Robbie fame. Sure made “Infidels” come alive as well as 1000’s of other recordings. Saw a guy with Bella Fleck one night that blew my mind…………….

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Steve

Wille Dixon, .. Sir Paul, Willie Dixon... Sir Paul,

David I tried to find more songs written by Dixon than the 13 available in the Wiki page. there are references to him having written hundreds of songs but I can't find them, where should I look.

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David P.

Without a doubt, at least in my mind, the ultimate songwriting bassist would have to be the late-great Willie Dixon.

"I can come through the chimney like Santa Claus
Go through the window and that ain't all
A lot of good ways I don't want you to know
I even got a hole in the bedroom floor
I got 29 ways to make it to my baby's door
I got 29 ways to make it to my baby's door
And if she needs me bad
I can find about two or three more."

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Steve

The great bass player of The Buena Vista Social Club, Cachaito Lopez has died. Now there was a bass player who personified rhythm.

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dlew919

john deacon

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bob w.

Charlie, I'm with you regarding Charles Kuralt. His run on "CBS Sunday Morning" provided the best ninety minutes of television every week and a great way to begin a leisurely Sunday. Still a great show but Charles Kuralt was the master. He was a wonderful writer also, as you well know.

I am curious as to your opinion of Amazon's "Kindle 2". Remarkable product. Wireless downloads of NYT bestsellers under $10.00? That sounds like serious ramifications for the publishing industry. Does it get more folks reading? Would enjoy hearing your take on it.

Check out the video on the left side of the linked page.

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Peter V

When we do great bass players, we usually remember Carole Kaye, the other Motown bass guitarist, too. And she's on Pet Sounds.

The songwriting bass players are all singing bass players too (which is natural, I guess).

Listen to the Live Astral Weeks CD, and I think David Hayes may get promoted to your best bassists list. The guy with Joe Zawinul a few years ago was as good as any bassist I've heard … very Jaco-like. Also:

Baghiti Khumalo (Paul Simon, especially Graceland) is one I always remind people of when this gets discussed.

Also Aston "Family Man" Barrett of The Wailers. I'd argue that "Live At The Lyceum" is as good as any live album can be.

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Simon

Subject: Josh White

Joan, I love this clip. I think it's his daughter singing with him. "Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out."

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Northern Boy

Subject: NB's Possibly Impossible, Truly Torontonian, and Quite Questionable Musical Trivia Questionnaire

(Let Bill M. have first crack at these everyone, and remember Bill, no Googling or at least not on your first attempt).

1) PROVIDE THE LAST NAMES OF TWO MEMBERS OF THE TRAWNA GROUP "MAINLINE".

(This opening question has a difficulty level of zero. Getting it wrong means you're a) both hospitalized AND flatlining or b) sporting a trendy headband to cover the scars of a recent lobotomy. Don't even putt out Bill; this one's a gimmee.)

2) (We're still MAINLING here folks, well, so-to-speak).

WHAT'S THE MUSICAL THEMATIC LINK BETWEEN "MAINLINE" AND JOHNNY BOWER, BELOVED FORMER GOALIE OF THE TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS ?

(For difficulty, only a level 3 question, so you're entitled to be only slightly pleased with yourself for getting it right. However, if getting this paltry item right sends a warm glow over your entire body, well, it's time to take out membership in Canada's National Low-Self Esteem Club. Steve's familiar with the paperwork and can help you with the forms.)

3) WHAT WAS THE NAME OF MOE KAUFMAN'S GROUP ? NO WAIT, THAT'S TOO EASY. INSTEAD, PROVIDE THE NAME OF MOE KAUFMAN'S SON'S GROUP ?

(On a zero-to-ten scale, still only about a level 3 in difficulty. Don't worry though, there'll be some 10's and 11's in Part Two of this quiz, AND a nifty video question or two just like Trebek's using nowadays. Multiple-guess is up next !)

4) KAUFMAN PUT OUT AN ALBUM BASED ENTIRELY ON THE MUSIC OF:

A) VALDY (BC content for Bonk and Westie)

B) VALDI (Pronounced "Valdy")

C) VIVA LA VIDA

(D) VIVALDI (pronounced "Vivaldy")

(Level of difficulty ? For Bill M., only marginally tougher than question one, which was "name two members from the group "McKenna Mendelson Mainline". Oh shit, I meant to just type in MAINLINE, Bill ! Oh well. Let's wrap up Part One of the quiz with this next question).

5) (Something right up Stevon Farm's alley. It involves the Group of Seven so I reckon it's a level Seven difficulty).

WHAT'S THE CONNECTION BETWEEN "MASSEY HALL,"TORONTO'S FAMOUS MUSIC VENUE, AND TORONTO'S FAMOUS PAINTER, LAWREN HARRIS ?

(While pondering this one, maybe grab a coffee at Hart House at the University of Toronto or maybe go watch some old "Dr. Kildare" re-runs).

If you've been playing along at home, remember, let Bill M. try these first. If he gets them ALL right, I'll have to throw some level 15's and 20's at him in the next round, stuff I don't even know the answers to ! NB

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Tracy

Roger Waters

Randy Meisner

Coldplay? Blech!

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bassmanlee

Subject: Bass Players

AS a bass player (that nom de plume has meaning) what does constitute a good bass player? Depends on your frame of reference.

There are those who can use the Funk (and that's an Upper Case F) examples like Bootsy Collins and ANYONE who has cut the mustard with JB, but then there are the Fusion Fingers of Stanley Clark (eh) and the Acousto-Fusion of Victor Wooton who just use too many damn notes - not that I could touch that, but what's the point?. On the other hand, I bow to the Godfather of Jam-bandinous Phil Lesh, who is among the 'notists' is spot on in my book, well, most of the time.

But BASS (por moi) is not about how many damn notes you can play...its about how you MOVE the BUTT or support the song. Man, I can not dance a lick (anymore) but my fingers can rock yo' ass on a good day. (Bad days we just play the root.)

It's about the song. Rick ruled the bass. (Just try to parse the into to Cripple Creek.)

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rosalind

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Zzzz

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Zzzz

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kristie

Some artists go out of their way to promote themselves. Chris Martin is ALways talking about himself, and whining about how difficult his life is being married to a movie star, and hanging out with Jay Z...and being forced to wear idiotic uniforms to appeal to the My chemical romance "emo" crowd(the military type uniforms seem to be the look of choice for this crowd)All this adds up to mass appeal for people who have generic taste in what is essentially glorified background music(which Coldplay is to me).

Brendan doesn't strike me as someone who really courts this kind of press.

That being said, I didn't really like the Raconteurs last album...or their first album for that matter. There are way more talented bands than that. I mean, I appreciate their influences, but it just doesn't add up to good music.

And Jack White needs to crawl out of his own ass.

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Charlie Y

Subject: Civil War Sites...and Sights

Zzzz: I personally always enjoyed visiting both Harper's Ferry and Gettysburg (both have had some work in recent years to update facilities, too) and I would suggest Manassas Battlefield Park if you have time in the DC area. The Antietam National Historical Park is close to Harper's Ferry, and Route 15 is still a fairly scenic highway to take down from Gettysburg to the DC area.

I got my first GPS last year and have rediscovered the joys of back roads. Charles Kuralt remains one of my heroes, the king of the back roads.

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Pat B

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Eddie

Subject: Butch

Happy Birthday Butch Dener...I always see you at the shows!

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Friend0

Willie Dixon.

Jimmie Lee Robinson. Great guitar player too, but was one of the first Chicago blues electric bass players. In the later part of his life Jimmie Lee did his share of rewriting standards and copywriting them as his own. But, earlier, and later on too, he wrote some signature songs. All My Life, was covered by John Mayall. Remember Me, Lonely Traveler, all got recognition. On Guns, Gangs,and Drugs, he again wrote some unique numbers, both lyrically and musically. If you can fidn this record (cd), on Robinson's Amina label (named for hsi daughter), it is a treat and a rare find. I got mine from Jimmie, at a gig he did in St Louis. Bob Stroger on bass.

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Tom Marshman

HI Everyone, I probably wouldnt have put this guy up there in the top bass players a few years ago.However the more I listen to him I,d have to say John Entwistle would be in the top 3 or 4 along with Rick.Whoever selected Jame jamerson was spot on.Watched Standing in the Shadows of Motown a fewe weeks ago.Apparently he had his own appreciation society in the late 60s in Europe On another note the death toll from the bush fires here just keeps growing and growing.Fortunately ALL of Australia is pulling together for the Victorians with aid coming from various states.Peace ALL

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Karen

There are artists who do not get promoted as well as others.That's why they're not considered famous. Take The Raconteurs' Brendan Benson who has been out since the 90's;never heard of him until a few years back.He is a talented singer, musician, songwriter & producer, but some may not know who he is. It doesn't just take talent, artists have to have the record co. to promote them.Such as Coldplay, who should not have won best rock album this year. It should have went to The Raconteurs at least they actually rock.

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Zzzz

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Peter V

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Kevin J

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Kevin J

James Jamerson

Jaco Pastorius

Bootsy Collins

Larry Graham

Willie Weeks

Duck Dunn

Jack Bruce

Paul McCartney

Tony Levin

Rick Danko

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rosalind

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Pat B

Karen, are you sure you want to use the Beatles as a group that gained its success because of promotion? Beatlemania was a grassroots groundswell, not the machinations of some promotional genius.

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Karen

The point I meant to make was that success isn't just measured by dollar signs. You have to be happy at what you do in life.There are lots of underated artists who never go platinum but that doesn't mean they're not talented. They just don't get promoted like say The Beatles did years ago.

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Joan

Subject: Josh white

The other day I got to thinking about Josh White, and why he seems forgotten I loved his music and even saw him perform live. I never knew about the blacklisting and all the other travails. People remember the Weavers, but little is said about White. I know Wiki isn't the most accurate place, but it did cover quite a bit. He seems to have influenced many people.

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Adam

Does anyone know which members of the Band were on stage for the closing jam at Watkins Glen?

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Peter V

Now you get the EXTENT of the success and Rumors was multi-platinum, and that would be the “deserve” I think. It reminds me of an interview with a famous musician who was bitching because he’d had several top ten records, a few at number two but never a number one. He deeply resented that. The interviewer was “Hey, what the f**k, the charts are fixed anyway.”

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Bill M

Westcoaster: I guess it was a repeat, but the "Boston Legal" episode I saw over the weekend had Bill and Jim going fishin' and huntin' (and sleepin') together in your part of the world. They even did a bit of moonlighting by crashing a trial in Port McNeill. Imagine, Fort Mcfuckin' Neill!

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Karen

I would be pissed if someone was more successful than me. Especially, if they didn't deserve their success.I actually know how that feels; it's not a good spot to be in. That's where the jealousy comes in.

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Serenity

Subject: THE BAND GOLD

LINK: More on THE BAND's gold album. Maybe the same as before, as I didn't check it out. If you missed it the 1st time, see it again.

DAVID: Glad you're safe, but saddened by the outcome of these disasters. Take care.

Until next time xoxoxoxo

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Kevin J

Gentle Giant is a name from the past ………reminds me of another G band from the 70’s………reading MOJO magazine at airport recently Tony Banks of Genesis remarks how “Suppers Ready” was regularly ranked as the 2nd greatest of all rock songs ( 2nd to the incomparable “Stairway to Heaven” of course ). He sadly laments how “Supper’s Ready” no longer ranks in any of these types of polls. Imagine being surprised by that…………….Did anyone ever rate “Supper’s Ready”?

Bill…….I was at HMV on the weekend and that book you referred to “100 greatest Canadian albums” was displayed – prominently - at the check-out counter. Extremely well done. I disagree with the rankings but that is to be expected. Picked up Nebraska for $10.00 and the National Film Board’s “The Champions”. Pierre Trudeau had more style and charisma in his little finger than just about any other rocker or politician over the last 25 years! A brilliant documentary

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Landmark

Bill, I would say that "Bloodshot" and "Monkey Island" got a lot of play with me. "Freeze Frame" not so much. Of course I still have a copy of "Fullhouse" somewhere in the house as well.

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Landmark

Also loved J. Geils Band. Was fortunate enough to see them on a package show on New Year's Eve, many years ago opening up for Mountain. Sha Na Na and Rita Coolidge were also on the bill.

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Bill M

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Kevin J

Two memories of J. Geils Band. I remember hearing that live version of “Musta got Lost” and being knocked out ( sadlly the rest of the songs didn’t stand up as well ) and also as a young teenager thinking that Peter Wolf must be the luckiest guy in the world to be dating Faye Dunaway.

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NB

Part One (five questions) is done Bill, and I was going to post it last nite but alas, I got side-tracked by going into Istvan Bakk's post trying to find all the The Band links. You know the one about the need for an Hungarian-based Pauline Order ? Anyway, I could only find three but it took me 3 1/2 hours so by then I was too pooped to post the quiz. Stay tuned.

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Tim

Hey Peter. I will pick up the Live Astral Weeks asap. In todays boston globe it reviews the album and talks about Van living in Cambridge MA around the time of the album. There are some Peter Wolf (J Geils) comments. Speaking of J Geils, I got J Geils Band Reunion show tickets last week, one show only to open the new House of Blues in Boston. should be good.

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Kevin J

Subject: Nirvana meet the Beatles

Paul M backed by Dave Grohl at the awards show last night.

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Bill M

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Friend0

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Steve

To all True Believers; remember there is no room for compromise. Don't take my word for it, your respective books are written by your gods and they leave no room for compromise. These are perfect texts in every way, written by infallible beings. Nothing, I repeat , nothing, is open to negotiation. Millions have died over what is written in these documents. Tread carefully.

Has anyone else here read The Satanic Verses?

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Kevin J

Van the Man does look very much like Neil Diamond on the cover. If only Neil had worn Van’s 1976 purple jumpsuit last night, doing Caroline might have been understandable. Was I the only one looking for something off the new album? Interesting though that the crowd shot after Neil Diamond’s performance showed the young rappers ( Jay Z and crew ) up on their feet and cheering very enthusiastically. Much like TLW, I guess he did “do one and do it good”

Despite the minor tributes, I was also left feeling that Bo Diddley and Levi Stubbs deserved more

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rosalind

The Late Great Album by TVZ is certainly not his best but it would have been a jump start to a more lucrative career if that fuckin' Kevin Eggers would have followed it up with "7 Come 11" like he was suppose to!

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rosalind

I was just wondering whether or not the muslim churches were on the same wavelength as the christian churches in this "compromise" situation.

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Zzzz

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Peter V

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Peter V

David Hayes is at his very best with a lovely resonant bass sound. I haven't seen the DVD (it's forthcoming) but I wondered if it was the electric double bass he uses on stage rather than an acoustic double bass. John Platania is only on the bonus tracks. Jay Berliner is mesmerising on guitar (with Van).

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Friend0

As a rule, buildings should breath. Walls should breath. The idea of saving energy is great, but when it conmes to buidling, I;m hoping the green movement foucses more on using "green products" than on saving every drop of heating conusmptive energy possible. Build with the idea of decreasing consumption, but do it int he products used too. Please just don;t focus on heating and cooling related tightness of the home. Too tight is unhealthy.

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David P.

Here in the U.S. we have to wait a fortnight for Van The Man, as it's scheduled to be released here on the 24th. There will be a 2-LP version in addition to the CD.

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Steve

I mentioned last weekend the Time Life Civil War series I'm reading and the drilling for oil that started in 1859.

there's a great picture that sort of explains the exalted place oil was to take in the future.

It's a picture reminiscent of a religious sect parading a statue of their god through the streets.

The picture was taken in March of 1865. The caption read; A working model of an oil well is hauled down 5th Avenue during a New York City parade. A sign on the float proclaims; " Oil is King Now, Not Cotton."

in the picture the full sized working oil derrick is on a long wagon with a dozen or so people standing on the wagon, a line of horse drawn carriages are following the float and both sides of 5th Avenue are lined with people viewing the new King.

In spite of Ari's well thought out take on We Can Talk, I'm not convinced it's about the return of Levon and not about the civil rights movement in the US that was going on at that time. I didn't hear any explanation of "The Whip Is In The Grave".

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Kevin J

This from the current edition of Rolling Stone – Kings of Leon’s singer Caleb Followill ( He was not in Fleetwood Mac but some of you might care )

What albums have you listened to more than any other?

For the last two years, I‘ve been listening to The Late Great Townes Van Zandt non-stop. Otherwise, I’d say The Band’s Greatest Hits. It’s full of untouchable songs. When I hear them, I think “I’m starting back at zero, I haven’t fucking done anything compared to anything they’ve done”.

He also talks about how he wanted to die when My Morning Jacket covered “It Makes No Difference” before KOL had a chance to.

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Bill M

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Adam

can anyone direct me to the interview Ari referred to below?

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peter V

Two things about Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks- Live at the Hollywood bowl."

Go out and buy one right away! Amazing.

Does anyone else think he looks like Neil Diamond on the sleeve?

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rosalind

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Zzzz

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Brien Sz

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Bill M

Bonk: Thanks for the link to the photo gallery. Baldwin was, as you likely know, the heart of Toronto's Jewish area until after WW2, and still have vestiges of its former glory in '74 when I first found it. While most of the buildings are still there, just about the only store that's still there is Around Again Records, pretty much across the street from #23, which is still run by Barbara and Marty. They carry way more CDs than they did in the '70s, though. By the way, I see you timed your move to Pickering to coincide with the opening of the mall across the tracks. That was terribly exciting. They had a record store and I had a dish-washing job. I think my first purchase there was "The Best of Ronnie Hawkins" on Roulette.

Ari: Great job on "We Can Talk". You've certainly convinced me that it's a song about the return of Levon, though I read it as Richard making two basic points: 1) the other guys've gotten over their feelings of betrayal - I understand that Levon basically fucked off on them without warning or goodbye - and are happy to him back; and 2) there were sound economic reasons for them to have continued with Dylan, even if Levon had wanted them to return to focus on their own career as Levon and the Hawks.

JT: Good heavens - both Kensington Market were reissued on CD by Pacemaker last year (see link), hence the two reunion shows at Hugh's Room. Each time there was just Keith and Luke for the original band, plus Scott Kennedy on bass, Bucky Berger on drums and John Jackson on lead guitar. The place was full this time (like last), though there were fewer fellow rock and roll relics in the audience this time. Aside from Stan Endersby, I guess.

Anyway, I said hello to one of the Pacemaker guys, and he said "I owe you some CDs", which arrived in the mail last week. Four of them. One by Robbie Lane and the Disciples, who'd replaced our guys as the Hawks - as it says in the liner notes, although they managed to misspell Manuel. One by Dianmondback, an early '70s group led by Scott Cushnie, a group-mate of Robbie's in both the Suedes and with Hawkins (1959 / 1960) and local guitar hero Mike McKenna (co-founder of Mainline); also on that CD are guitarist Stan Endersby (see above), singer Cathy Young and singer Beverly D'Angelo (before she joined Clark and the Griswolds). One by Blackstone, who were really Rhinoceros with a new second vocalist, in this case Zeke Shepherd, who'd been part of the Hawkins orbit when he moved here from Nova Scotia in the late '50s.

And one, Peter V take note, that has Joni Mitchell singing background vocals, presumably because Larry Klein plays bass on all songs and had something to do with production. That CD is by Indio, a Hamilton Ontario guy who had a great minor-hit in '89 with his own song, "Hard Sun" (later covered by Eddie Vedder). Aside from having Joni Mitchell on it, it also has Robbie chum Bill Dillon on all tracks.

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Charlie Y

Subject: Grammy Awards

I couldn't bring myself to watch the TV broadcast of the Grammy Awards ceremony, but I hope to see the McCartney performance online somehow.

In a bizarre pairing for 2009, both Al Gore and Frank Zappa won awards. Mr. Zappa, you will recall, went head-to-head with Mr. Gore and his wife during Congressional hearings on music censorship/labeling back in the 1980s. The Grammy was actually awarded to his son, Dweezel, for the wonderful live version of his father's brilliant jazz instrumental, "Peaches en Regalia" performed by Dweezel's Zappa Plays Zappa touring ensemble, while Mr. Gore won for the audio version of his book, "An Inconvenient Truth."

As for Grammy Awards with connection to The Band, the amazing Dr. John deservedly won one for his latest album.

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Peter V

What surprises me is that no one seems to point out a couple of bits of economic news in juxtaposition to each other. The banks made record losses. The same week, the oil companies announce astonishing profits made last summer when oil prices were sky high. But pump prices haven’t fallen back to last Spring’s levels. So in some way, via us, I reckon the oil companies have managed to suck in all that surplus (and theoretical) money the banks had.

In other words, the world is like a great big onion … sorry, that was Marvin Gaye … the world is like the plots of Richard Condon novels / 24 / Prison Break. Behind everything stands “The company” or “Big oil” and they run the entire thing.

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Brien Sz

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bob w.

Subject: The Green Scene

Brien, I attended the Green Jobs Conference and Expo in Washington, DC last week. I can assure you the movement is well underway. It may take some time for this shift to occur but there are some very bright people at the fore.

Check out Van Jones on line. Brilliant guy.

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Spridle

...Peter Murphy wrote a song, and the lyrics sound like a response to We Can Talk, or perhaps he wrote it so that it looked like We Can Talk was a response to Line Between The Devils Teeth...It's a pretty interesting phenomenon, and you can hear a nearly legible version of Murphy's tune on youtube, and if you then play We Can Talk, it's even funny in a way once you can hear the words.

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Brien Sz

Anyway - that's my little rant for the morning.

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Ari S.

Subject: We can talk

I don’t have much time right now because I ‘m in a hurry but I needed to say something about Richard Manuel’s “We Can Talk”, because it was only today that I realized how it is synthesis of brilliance in composing and songwriting. I had read Peter’s article on it and I liked it very much, I just have a few points that I’d care to expand on. First and foremost, I needa say that I finally understood what Richard was saying today when I looked through the lyrics, and I know am convinced that Richard and Robbie were prophetic songwriters that were viscerally and irrevocably changed after playing with Dylan. In this song, Richard seems to be writing not only on the way they speak to one another, but how they draw influence from one another. Let me explain what I mean. In the first few lines it is obvious that this is a more playful and fun song than say “Caledonia Mission” or “Long Black Veil”, but what I hadn’t realized is how much Richard is essentially the John Lennon of The Band. This is song in many is almost the same concept of Lennon’s “Help”, it was a cry for inspiration and a cry for support. I think this cry for support is most directly linked to Levon’s return. The song, towards the beginning is an apology to Levon and his return and Richard telling him, “We’re a band, we won’t betray you, I need you.” Just look at the first lines. We can talk about it now It's that same old riddle only starting from the middle I'd fix it but I don't know how A Well, we could try to reason but you might think it's treason lTo me this is Richard telling Levon, that yes, they kept on with Dylan and then you left, now your back and it’s the same way as it was before, and anything that’s different about our relationship is the same, only we’ve been through more. Then Richard implies that any bad vibes or changes in the Band’s relationship with Levon sucks and that “He’d fix it, but he doesn’t know how.” Then he ends with, we didn’t betray you, it’s not treason.”” Brilliant. Then Richard says G One voice for all F E7 A Echoing across the hall Bm G Don't give up on father clock ,This is the first time Richard truly expresses any overt feeling of brotherhood and unity (he implies great minds think a like and it’s always all or nothing.). Then he says they now have time to sit and reflect, (another Beatles reference “With a Little Help From My Friends” is also a lot like the message in this.) It also shows that while Robbie, who was clearly influenced Levon’s mythical Southern lifestyle, so was Richard. I got hurry up. Ok so Richard then talks about how Dylan influenced them and even though they never had time to sit and think, “the cow reference”, well “We Can Talk about it now”, see, “it’s safe to take a backward glance.” I must leave now, I urge you all to look at the song and look for Richard’s beautiful insecurites.

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Steve

As the number of people losing their jobs here starts to rocket upwards( 130,000 last month)people are counting on our main trading partner, the US, where 80% of our exports go to get back to where their economy was so jobs here will pick up.

I find it hard to believe that will happen. Correct me if I'm missing something but the US economy has been expanding over the last decade on household spending.

Household spending was being financed by borrowing.

Most of the borrowing was being financed by inflated house prices and people remortgaging their homes and spending the money they were taking out of their homes while that value didn't really exist. Is the US trying to get back to the situation that caused the problem in the first place?

Can someone tell me if I'm missing something. I really hope I'm overlooking something.

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Ari S.

Hey guys, I just looked at the German interview with Richard. I guess our questions on whether he smoked were answered in the photograph.

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dlew919

Just a serious note in response to Serenity (whom I will email anyway) asking how things are.

The dlews are safe - some 1500 miles north of the fires, and I have no direct family down that way (my sister's in-laws are about 35 miles from the fires but they are safe)...

It is, and I think this is correct, the worst peacetime disaster to hit Australia ever - the city of Darwin was wiped out by a cyclone in 1973 - that might be worse.

131 have died at last count - the infamous 'Black Friday' fires of 1990 had 74 deaths (the press have been reporting these - I don't have this stuff at my fingertips!)

The response has been terrific, mostly - money has been pouring into trust funds set up to help the victims. The Premier of Victoria (the state affected), Mr John Brumby, almost broke down during a press conference. The Deputy Prime MInister, Ms Julia Gillard, was choking back tears. This is unprecedented - even in the Bali bombings (which was a terrible event), the politicians kept their tears private...)

Comrade Steve will sympathise when I say that they are looking for scapegoats (arsonists et cetera), without actually looking at the more extreme weather of the last 50 years and what that effect might have.

As I said, we here in New South Wales are very lucky and blessed - no major fires, and Queensland, to the north, has flooding (it is said that more of QLD is underwater than above at the moment).

Back to sniping, bitching, arguing and generally enjoying ourselves.

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Peter V

In late 1976, the rhythm section of Fleetwood Mac had been together longer than The Band members had been in 1968, and they were certainly veterans of the road, even before they formed Fleetwood Mac.

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kristie

that song is horrible.

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roz

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Serenity

ABBY: Hello to you too.You sorta a stranger here too, I see. Welcome back.

ROS: Thanks. Love Moonglow. They don't write songs like that anymore

GRAMMYS: Happy for Alison Krauss and Robert Plant. They're singing as I type this.

Seeya soon xoxoxo

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kristie

Rumors-I really like the album for the most part, but every time one of Christine's songs comes on I just want to punch the stereo. I really don't like her songwriting. It must have been hard for her when Stevie came along. Better looking, better singer, better songwriter.

"Gold dust woman" and "The Chain" are phenomenal songs.Yeah, I would rate lyndsay's playing pretty high as well. Especially in "Never going back."

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rosalind

GOOD TIMES NEVER SEEMED SO GOOD BA BA BA

I BEEN IN INCLINED DA DA DA

TO BELIVE THEY NEVER WOULD

SWEET CARR-OOO-LINEEEEE

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rosalind

Thatnks Serenity - I would have forgotten to watch the Grammys if you hadn't mentioned it. Whitney looks about half whack!

Karen You tell me where your are and I'll tell ya where mine are.

I don't think Levon was jealous. I think he was pissed.

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Karen

Yes, I have a few warts(Ha,ha). But I swear I'm not a witch. Stevie Nicks has been rumored to be, but who knows.Maybe somebody was jealous of Fleetwood Mac's success(Levon).

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Peter V

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rosalind

Ahhh come on Peter - you just like Fleetwood Mac cause you got the hots fer the little blonde! She's a witch ya know. and if you seen her lately you'd see that the only thing that's missin' now is the wart on the end of her nose. She probaby had that removed by some Hollywood surgeon. I'm looking for someone with credentials to have mine removed. Face moles that are a bit on the sexy side when you're young have a tendency to turn into warts as you age. I have to keep pluckin' the hairs out of mine.

What about you Karen, you got any warts?

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Peter V

Fleetwood and McVie were a leaden simple rhythm section in the early days, but by Rumors they had developed a bouncy jaunty simplicity that is infectious. Neither of them rate with Helm and Danko as musicians, but they do what they do well, and McVie never overplays. I rate him.

I can see Levon despairing at the lesser calibre and experience of many hit musicians, but Fleetwood Mac circa Rumours would be a poor example.

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Joan

Hey Ros, I love Moonglow.Theme from Picnic. I still have my old 78 around. (One of the benefits of being a pack rat)

Abby, it is good to hear from you. You are missed. Carol and I were wondering the other day where have all the Dankettes gone?

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rosalind

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Karen

Charlie, I think you are right about that. Oh, well, maybe a new discussion will happen. Is the new person(Spirit)for real or not?Rosalind, I enjoy "speaking" with you even if I am superficial.

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westcoaster

Subject: Hungarian History - Hit Men - Music - That gawd damn Northern Kid

I just got back from a long trip. Loading and unloading equipment in 5 stops. First in snow then like summer. Now it's snowing again. I'm perplexed as to why we had this lesson in Hungarian history, but it reminded me of my mission

After deliberation, motivation and agitation, I'm really considering putting the contract out on Steve again. I'm negotiating with Keyser Soze, after you guys so royally fucked it up the last time. I just invited him to read a few of Steve's posts here and now! he don't even want to charge me as much.

That Northern Kid..........no enemies he says? Well just to make him feel more "included" Im gonna send Keyser Soze after him too. Him and Steve gawd,gawd,gawd.....what a pair.

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Dunc

Subject: Robbie, Big Pink, The Weight, etc

Good four clips of Robbie talking, good footage of Big Pink, an excerpt from the Weight, a still of the Basement Tapes linking the Basement Tapes to Harry Smith's anthology - all on BBC 4's Folk America series. Great stuff. You'll be able to find it on BBC i player.

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NB

Subject: Levon on Conan

Nb. Just a reminder of what Friendo pointed out a few day ago. Levon appearing on Conan O'Brien this Tuesday (Feb. 10). Check your listings or scroll back to Friendo's post as I'm not quite 100% certain of the above info, and I don't want to lead you astray. NB

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Charlie Y

Subject: Music

Karen: I responded to someone's request for favorite albums ("desert island discs") two days ago under a post titled "8 X 8" but nobody else seemed to care. That thread has been done too much here, I guess.

As for Lyle Lovett sounding like Jackson Browne, I don't really hear the simiarlity since Jackson is not Southern. Lyle and Jesse Winchester sound a LOT alike, though, and that even connects him with THE BAND.

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Karen

Maybe we can get back to music for now.What about fav songs or albums? That would be a good discussion. Everybody could get a chance to voice their opinions on this. My favs for the moment are Big Pink, "Consolers of the Lonely"(The Raconteurs), & "Rumours"(Fleetwood Mac) just to name a few.

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abbi0-

Subject: KY

Doesn't Lyle Lovett sound a lot like Jackson Browne? Done. Farewell.

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abby

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Tracy

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Karen

Subject: Zor?

I don't have to go away. The voices in my head tell me to stay(ha, ha). Go to You Tube for a while or watch a funny movie or something. Calm down. I'm only pickin' on you because you continue to respond to me. Trust me it's not a trap.You didn't answer my question, what is my obsession? Chances are you have one, too.

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rosalind

Subject: For Serenity..

I dig this song!

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Istvan Bakk

Subject: Why is it important for the Hungarian nation to have a Hungarian based Pauline order?

Why is it important for the Hungarian nation... ...Why is it important for the Hungarian nation to have a Hungarian based Pauline order? Pauline fathers in the Americas missionary work end service in the new world http://jozsef-kutasi.de/blogger/palospassioen.pdf Istvan Bakk said: István Bakk:  Why is it important for the Hungarian nation to have a Hungarian based Pauline order? ... The monastery was built in Szentkereszt (Holy Cross) and Eusebius became the first Father Rector. Eusebius, under Thomas Aquinas’ support requested permission to adopt the Rule of St. Augustine from Urban IV, which was not received and documented until 13th December 1308... http://lsogor.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=129&forum=11 http://www.tvthrong.ca/canadian-idol/dwight-deons-top-4-performances István Bakk: Why is it important for the Hungarian nation to have a Hungarian based Pauline order? The founder of the Hungarian Pauline Fathers, Özseb, whose name is probably derived from the first Pannonian martyr, Eusebius gained martyrdom under the rule of Valerianus (235-259). Özséb/Eusebius requested permission from Cardinal Vancsay to form the Pauline Order due to his disappointment of the Andrew II and Béla IV’s leadership after the destruction caused by the Tatars. A vision of his work confirmed everything for him and the order’s main centre was established and built in 1250. The monastery was built in Szentkereszt (Holy Cross) and Eusebius became the first Father Rector. Eusebius, under Thomas Aquinas’ support requested permission to adopt the Rule of St. Augustine from Urban IV, which was not received and documented until 13th December 1308. The Pauline Fathers are the only Hungarian order of monks founded in Hungary itself. After the death of Eusebius the Hungarian Paulines spread rapidly, and the generosity of King Matthias, who was the most famous Renaissance ruler of the time and possessor of the Holy Crown, supported the order. The order also obtained Fehéregyház, where Árpad the Magyar Chief, who settled Hungary is buried, thus enabling the order to guard Árpad’s tomb. At this particular monastery, Mátyás Bakk became the first provost, who also has relatives living in Szekélyland to the present day. In that time there were up to 69 monasteries, although later the number reached 170 in the Hungarian region. On 15th January 1467 the day when the king defeated Ali Begh St. Paul the Hermit was made a Hungarian patron saint by the king. The name giver to the order, St. Paul the Hermit became defender and protector of the king both internally and the whole region. Not only were scholars invited to the country by the king, but also church leaders, which explains how Rodrigo Borgia Archbishop of Eger and Abbot of Pétervárád became prelate of Hungary. Incidentally, he also became Pope Alexander VI, and during his time Queen Isabella of Spain, relative of the House of Árpád Kings requested the Paulines to travel to the New World with Columbus. On October 12th 1492, Columbus landed in America, and according to Alexander IV, we can clearly see that the Hungarian Pauline Order were the first spreaders of the faith, and were also the first bridge builders between Europe and America. Pauline monasteries could also be found in many European countries such as Austria, Croatia, Portugal, Spain, Poland and many others besides. The Pauline Fathers from all their monasteries had to meet at a convention, which took place near Buda at a place called Szentlőrinc (now Buda Szentlőrinc). The provost, the superior of and two delegates all the monasteries in each diocese arrived at the meeting every fourth, or rather every eighth year at the main monastery in Hungary. The Ottoman invasion of Hungary was fatal for the Pauline order later on, as the powerful independent base of the order was lost. The meeting of the order was moved to the monastery at Máriavölgy due to the destruction of the main Szentlorinc monastery by the Ottomans. The country split into three and in the eastern region a new king was chosen, John I, who had previously been the voivod (leader) of the same place. In the western region the younger brother of Charles V was crowned, and became King Ferdinand. King John, who was struggling with many difficulties, requested the help of provost Brother György, who was made voivod of Transylvania, and who at that time was also cardinal and bishop of Várád, as well as being treasurer and the most well known politician. He negotiated with Bishop Wese, who was the representative of Charles V and Wese tried to convince him to hand over the eastern region. Brother György, (Bishop of Nagyvárad, Voivod of Transylvania, Cardinal and Archbishop of Esztergom) in virtue of his responsible position was unable to bring about a decision which would have been against the nation’s interests. Neither corruption or bribery, nor treason could change his mind. György’s ambition to reunite the country did not come true, due to the historical situation of the region. Only Transylvania’s independence could guarantee the avoidance of the Ottoman invasion. After the unsuccessful negotiation, Charles V and King Ferdinand, members of the Habsburg family murdered Brother György Alvincen Martinuzzi on the night of December 16th, 1551. The news of the murdered Archbishop of Esztergom shocked Europe. Along with the murder came the looting of Transylvania’s treasures. With the invasion of the Ottomans, the Paulines moved to Poland. And due to the increasing strength of the Polish Paulines a split from the Hungarian order took place in 1784. The Polish king Stanislaw August Poniatowski had caused the break away process by his claims. That is why the diocese of the order separated from Hungary, as well as the Father Rector in 1784. The beginning of Pope Pius VI’s breviary “Apostolicae Sedis auctoritas” stated that the Polish diocese of the order is separated from the main Hungarian one. Franz Joseph II dissolved all religious orders, including the Paulines in 1786. Although, the dissolution act of 1786 was withdrawn in 1790 it did not include the Paulines. The order tried to re-establish itself in 1864, 1902, 1918 and in 1934. Then in 1989 through Fr. Vince Árva of Pilisszántó the order was re-established, and the beatification process of Blessed Eusebius was pushed forward. Not only this, but he also hopes that the Polish order’s rule of the ancient order will cease and a new Hungarian leadership and centre will be established. On February 8th, 2008 Fr. Vince Árva sent a letter to Pope Benedict XVI giving an account the work involved in the beatification process of Blessed Eusebius, and the other necessary documentation required in the process.

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Serenity

Subject: Neil Diamond

LINK: Tribute to Neil Diamond. Hope they televise it.

Seeya soon xoxoxo

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Northern Boy

Subject: To Occasional Moments of Lucidity

Bonk: I could maybe enlighten you but you'd have to give me a f'rinstance. Actually this weekend's pretty sane. I remember one where the two dominant threads were Bigfoot and UFO's. Needless to say, the Band connections were a bit tenuous that weekend. But come Monday morning, the likes of Bill M., Peter V., David P. and others have pretty much gotten things back on track.

Stevon Farm: Your last post (to me) was absolutely correct in every detail, except for your using the contraction "it's" in place of the possessive pronoun "its". Way to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Steve, am I doing something wrong ? I don't seem to have any enemies here at the GB.

Oh, and kindly do me a favour would you ? Stop mentioning to people how I'm completely bilingual (in 27 TOTALLYdifferent French words). I don't want to come off looking immodest. Speaking of French, that guy who posts as "Lame Ami de Steve", do you think people might assume that's me ?

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zor

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Serenity

Subject: Robert Plant & Alison Krauss

LINK: Don't forget the Grammy's tonight? This will be a great show with these 2 up for an award.

Hi NORBERT: Nice to read your posts. I'm not here too much, but do check things out once-in-awhile. Kinda nice to read some stuff from "old friends".

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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Karen

Subject: Zor , Roz?

I had that feeling,& I was right. But are you Rosalind or is that another person intirely? I have a feeling this is some kind of cyber game. It's giving me a good laugh though. You didn't tell me what I'm obsessed with though. Please fill me in. Read my mind via the net.

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Steve

Lars it's 1989 here on the farm if you judge by prices for cattle.

The beef business is run by people who could make those Wall St. Bankers blush.

I went to a meeting of English speaking producers put on by our federation last week which as expected was docile and well behaved. Even though I received all the info at the English meeting I'm going to the French producers meeting this week. Frenchman know how to make an information meeting exciting. I'm going to look and see if I still have an old hockey helmet to wear when I go.

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zor

zor is roz spelled backwards.

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Joan

Subject: Dewey Martin

RIP Drummer for the Buffalo Springfield.

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Karen

Zor, what are you talking about? I don't remember addressing you in any of my posts so far. Don't say "screw you" & expect to not get a response. If we were face to face would you have said this? Maybe I'm ditzy, but I know an insult when I read one. I enjoy this guestbook, but sometimes the tone gets too serious(for my taste). Surely, you love The Band also; we have that much in common.Here lately I have been joking on here(a mistake on my part) to lighten the mood. It is hard to determine someone's intentions though at least in print. I apologize if I hurt your feelings in any way(directly or indirectly). What is it I'm "obsessed" with? Maybe you can help me out with that since you know me so well.

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Norbert

Morrison busking .... check the little man with the blue coat during the song.

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rosalind

Norbert's link reminded me of this song from the little movie that could. "ONCE"

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Norbert

Subject: James Morrison

YouTube: James Morrison from the UK .... this guy is good.

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dlew919

Norbert mentioned Garry McDonald as Norman Gunston: brilliant comic. Did what sacha baron cohen did with borat 30 yrs later, but gunston was funnier /n When i'm on a computer (not my phone) i'll see if i can post his interview with paul macartney.

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Norbert

Subject: Richard Hamburg 1971

Link: scan of German's Hamburger Abendblatt (dated: Pentecost 1971) with photo and a short interview with Richard, just before The Band's gig in Hamburg's MusikHall.

They talk about Bill Graham, high concert prices, about the German gigs which are not sold out (Richard: "maybe Germans are too stressed and work too hard to come, and those who aren't can't afford it"), Bill Graham ('a good businesssman'), the $7.000,- a gig and the sponsoring of the Band by an airline company.

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Peter V

My Eng Lit tutor 40 years ago was discussing Shakespeare and the possible “real” authors such as Bacon and the Earls of Southampton and elsewhere. His conclusion was:

“Shakespeare wasn’t written by William Shakespeare in fact, but by another person called William Shakespeare who lived in the same places at the same time and did the same things.”

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Norbert

Subject: The Kids Are Alright

Just saw this on the www about the Who doc.:

'Appearing: Tommy Smothers, Jimmy O'Neill, Russell Harty, Melvyn Bragg, Ringo Starr, Mary Ann Zabresky, Michael Leckebusch, Barry Fantoni, Jeremy Paxman, Bob Pridden, Keith Richards, Garry McDonald (as Norman Gunston), Steve Martin, Rick Danko (who appears in the credits despite his scene being cut), Ken Russell'

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John W.

OK I registered in order to try and post at telecaster.com. about the Lone Star. Look at this kind of traffic they get: Members: 27,072 Threads: 136,209 Posts: 1,640,089 Top Poster: Mark Davis (13,418)

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John W.

Thanks to TIM for posting that link about the Lone Star. Seems like an interesting forum ("Telecaster" web site). I can't believe the amount of traffic some of these forums get. Makes this little old forum seem so small, when you look at sites like greasylake.org (Springsteen fans) or Baseball-fever.com (go to "Ballparks" for great threads on Shea and Yankee stadium demolition & new ballparks construction). Thanks Tim

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zor

I don't know what you're talking about, Karen. Please stop obsessing and try and relax. here, play in the sand. Joan liked the flowers. Did you make a flower? Try the sand. It's pretty and you can make stuff out of it. i don't know why you keep adressing me. I don't want to tell you to screw off but.. screw off

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dlew919

Original member of Buffalo Springfield. I'll post an obit if I see one.... \

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Karen

Rosalind, I won't insult you back because that is what you want me to do. Spirit is the one who initially insulted you not me. I seriously thought it was a weird joke. I have a sense of humor maybe you should develop one sometime.Life is too short to take everything at face value.By the way, maybe you should read the rules before you post. I have just as much right to post as others do. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you single them out. Anyway, your posts are on here a lot more than mine so who could it be that doesn't have a life.You come across as very rude, & not everyone appreciates that on here. Maybe I just made the mistake of pointing it out. If I get banned for stating my point of view then so be it.

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dlew919

Subject: John Martyn

Great great musician.

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Joan

Thanks for that link. Its fun! At least I can think about spring and flowers till this damn snow melts.

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.

Here, make yerself a flower

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rosalind

Get high, get laid or just get drunk and go to sleep.

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Karen

It's gettin' too weird now. At one time this guestbook read like CNN's posts, but it is even stranger now. This is a music-related guestbook isn't it. I'm sorry if I cracked a joke. I truly meant no harm. In previous posts I may have offended someone, but clearly didn't intend to. I will try to stick to the subject, & to not insult anyone. I can't speak for Spirit, but hopefully that person will not be afraid to post a message again. As for the rules of this guestbook, at least we don't have to give out personal info. just to post here. Trust me, I know about other guestbooks where you do.

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Karen

I was just joking; lighten up. Can't I have any fun? Well, at least I got a reaction this time. If talking about The Raconteurs (my new fav band) doesn't work, I guess this sure did. Who the heck is Spirit anyway?

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Kara Zor-el aka Supergirl

Subject: Puddin' and Headlights

I also give in, Take me..

I speak for Zor'El when I say that The Earthling, Lars Pederson has the best planet Earth puddin' on the Planet Earth and his headlights outshines any of the other headlights my brother has encountered on your Planet Earth.

Believe me when I say that I, Kara Zor-El aka SUPERGIRL have the best puddin' on Krypton or on the planet of Earth or in the far Galaxies and My headlights outshine even even the sun.

May I also add that your Planet Earth is full of old long flabby headlights and wide sagging regions between thighs and ugly bitter frowning battled faces who sit in circles and create silly conspiracy theories because they have no men to adore them.

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BONK

Subject: ??????

I know I'm pretty new to this Guestbook postings thing, but I gotta tell you, sometimes, and especially on weekends, I don't know or follow what the fuck some of you are talking about. When I post something it's from me, no bullshit, no facade. I don't get this wordplay thing that some of the good folk on this site screw around with. Maybe being a newby I just don't get it. No harm, but will somebody please enlighten me! I

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zor-el

I give up. Take me to your leaders

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Lars

Subject: "A tree, a cloud, a flower...etc."

Karen & Spirit & Steve (hey! How's your farm?)

Most people who have hung around this GB have known for years that "Roz" isn't really a poor little country girl. What difference does it make? I don't believe for a second that "Roz" is dangerous, and there are a lot of people who have taken a "shine" to him. With all the shit to worry about in today's world, why waste your energy?

Besides, Roz is the only person on this GB who knows that I'm really a female. We all have our little secrets.

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Karen

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Steve

I'm starting to appreciate the forethought involved in this brain donor gambit.

The,"It's a no-brainer", followed by the, " It takes one to know one", could be matched only by Kasparov's Sicilian Defense for it's apparent impregnability. Damn, why didn't I see this coming? Simply brilliant!

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NB

Yours is a good question Steve, Band-related and all, but it is highly-fact based so not really my kind of thing and, well, also a total NB (No Brainer). As such, I think people would be advised to answer your question before tackling my quiz, just so as to loosen up and not pull any mental muscles. However, there's a question in the quiz (#5) that's based on the field you're out standing in (well, maybe not in this weather) so others may be using you as a "lifeline", as Regis would say. NB

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Serenity

Subject: Grammy Museum

LINK: Interesting article on the new Grammy Museum. Named after a Canadian too. We are sooo proud.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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rosalind

Look at this from the journalist's point of view.

Boss - Hey, I want you to sit down and write out a few questions to ask this Bob Dylan kid cause I'm sending you down there to cover this story.

Lowly Journalist - Ahh shit! The guy's fuckin' weird! I mean, he sits up there behind his shades smoking incessently and with some kind of pretentios disquised determination attempts to make anyone who tries to pry at that mask he so gleefully wears into some kind of a fool! He acts like we're the monkeys. Here's a guy who wants no one anywhere to know who he is but yet he sits up there and promotes himself. Does that make sense?

No. But do it anyway. It's your job.

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Spirit

Subject: Roz

I can't believe you people here still believe "Rosalind" is for real. "She" is known as a disturbed and possibly dangerous person, operating on numerous discussion boards with multiple identities. Be careful with this guy.

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BONK

Subject: JT

JT and anyone else familiar with the Kensington Market area. Go to johnphillipsphotography.com and check out Baldwin Street. There's even some pictures from a Mosport Festival that I was at. WOW! Long time ago. Jesus H Christ. What happened to my long hair?

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BONK

Subject: NORTHERN BOY

NB. Grew up in Cabbagetown and moved to Bay Ridges from '72 to '82. Lived at the corner of Liverpool and Radom Street, one street down from Baseline (Bailey). I was back there a few years ago and went and had a Big M Burger. Only now it's called Masseys. Small world. Played Fastball for years in Pickering.

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Brien Sz

Maybe ironic is the wrong word Roz, but for someone who seemingly rails against conformity, rails against all those here that have no sense of humor or are to smart for our own good, pretentious and such - it amuses me that you don't see the anti-conformist and individualism that Dylan indeed expresses throughout many of those interviews - the flippant blow offs and throw back F-U's - I would think you'd rather admire such traits.

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Steve

The interviewers had either no idea what to ask and were asking completely asinine questions.

How do you answer the question," How many singers are there like you that have messages in their songs"?

Bob; what do you mean, singers with a message?

Interviewer; You know you're supposed to be a singer with a message, how many singers such as yourself would you say there are?

Bob; You want a number?

Interviewer; Yes a number please.

Bob; Are you kidding?

Interviewer, no a number please.

Bob; There are 146, no wait, 163. That's it exactly 163.

Now that's not exactly word for word but that question was asked in that way and there are many more of equal stupidity.

Hey Northern Dude, will you be including my question in your questionable quiz? It's not geographically out of bounds is it? It is musical and smack dab in the middle of your time frame and has a Band connection das boot.

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NB

Subject: Quiz Time

Bill: If you're around this weekend, check in and I'll post Part One of "The In-Quiz-ition". Otherwise, I'll post it Sunday night for your Monday morning amusement and edification. Nb. no Googling on your initial attempt. NB

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rosalind

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Northern Boy

Subject: Bonk (former Bay Ridgean)

Former Bay Ridgean ? (Kros)no way ! Holy Go Station ! If your decade there overlapped '54 to '74 then you lived only about 5 miles east of Northern Boy in his youth. (Not exactly something you'd want on your resume, but interesting Bonk.) Are you around for Part One of "NB's Possibly Impossible, Truly Trivial and Quite Questionable Music Trivia Questionnaire" ?

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Steve

Maybe you just weren't listening back in the day when Dylan denied ever being a songwriter with a message or the voice of a generation, that was pretty clear in the interviews done during the mid 60's and included in No Direction Home.

Maybe now he's finally decided to be the voice of a generation, The Pepsi Generation. Who knows, who cares. Remember it's all about the music.

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rosalind

Anyway, if it weren't for my opiates, I'd be living or dying in constant pain. Isn't that weird tho. How can you live and die at the same time? Maybe we aren't living at all. Maybe life is something's that remote and lavished upon only the chosen ones. I hope they appreciate it. You don't appreciate things until you know they're gone. Maybe the chosen ones are stupid too.

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Charlie Y

Subject: Farm Aid vs. Corrupt Corporate Aid

The long series of concerts benefitting family famers in this country was suggested by Bob Dylan. Farm Aid has become a wonderful institution which one hopes will last after the founders are gone.

On the other hand, it's disgusting that American taxpayers are currently "bailing out" lots of incompetent and corrupt banks and other greedy morons, while Willie Nelson, John Mellencamp, Neil Young, Dave Matthews and other musicians have had to work hard for no pay to help family farmers. Folkie Tom Paxton recently updated his 1970's song, "I'm Changing My Last Name to Chrysler" to relect the current idiocy. Of course, Chrysler's Lee Iococa paid back what was actually a loan back then. It's unlikely taxpayers will see much repayment of the billions being doled out in the recent "bail outs."

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JT

Bill M; Could you please tell a little about the Kensington Market Reunion... who was there? Who sang? Set list ? How was it? I am sorry I missed it but I was in Victoria. Is there more of this coming in the future? I am grateful for any information on this outstanding group of musicians. Finally, will anyone (True North?) put those 2 albums out on cd? Thanks in advance.

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rosalind

Maybe Dylan's trying to get some more "truth" across. Maybe he's got eleven fingers after all. Maybe he loaned that song to the PEPSI commercial to tell us that his life in all it's former and present glory is completely insignificant. That it didn't mean shit! Maybe he's trying to tell us that music is nothing but an opiate to get us through the day, That it never fed even one starving child or stopped anyone's pain for more than a minute or so. Maybe the guy looks into his solid gold mirror in the morning and sees a shell. A guy who's spent his life peddlin' snake oil to the masses. In our youth we pick up those pretty colors and cover up what is, in reality, an stark unmoveable feast of fear with no room for shades of gray. When we get old the pretty colors we've covered that stark ugly reality with start to melt. What's underneath? Yes. It didn't go away at all, we just denied it. Now there's no more time for denial.

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Tim

Subject: Last Waltz

Last waltz article

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Tim

Subject: Lone Star Cafe stories

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Steve

The closest I've come to Band connections in the Time Life series, outside of the Dixie connections, is the story of " Coal Oil Johnny" Steele. Coal Oil Johnny inherited a farm that was sitting on a large reservoir of oil and was making an incredible, for 1862, income of $2,000 a day in oil royalties.

So Johnny, with too much money on his hands, hired a private train and a minstrel troupe and traveled around the country putting on shows wherever his fancy took him.

When he'd blown his whole fortune, he took a job as a baggage agent on The Oil Creek Railroad.

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Steve

I'm half way through reading the 22 book set, Time Life American Civil War series published in 1986. I'm sure that was a factor influencing the bizarre dream I had last night.

In the dream George W was being paraded down what looked like a main street in some southern, civil war era town. He was sitting in the back seat of a fancy horse drawn carriage that had a sign on the side that read," US Bankrupt, Mission Accomplished !".

Ah, the way Steve's sleeping mind works seems to make it appear much more insightful than the fully awake version.

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Peter V

The most entertaining book on the music biz I’ve read for a while is Clive Selwood’s “All The Moves – None of the Licks.” Highly recommended and it starts from a mere £1.29 in amazon.co.uk’s “new and used section”. Selwood worked for Philips, Elektra, Dandelion, CBS … you name it, he was there. British readers will enjoy his days as a Butlins redcoat (“exactly like Hi-de-Hi!”).

Anyway, he tells a story that I’ve heard before. It goes like this:

Polydor merged with Philips to form Phonogram, and executives were sent from Germany to analyze the new business. After much research, they met with the new Chief Executive who announced that he had solved the problems of the record industry and had found the cure. “In future,” he announced, “We shall only release hits!”

He implies he was present. I think that story’s an old chestnut which goes back to the 1920s or 1930s film industry and may have originated with Mayer, Goldwyn, Cohn or some other amusingly quotable movie mogul. I also think it has been applied to other record executives. Does anybody know? On the other hand, I did give English lessons to some people from Phonogram in the 70s, so may have heard it from them.

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Bashful Bill

Subject: Joan

You've got a few years on me, Joan - I was a junior in high school. I'll always remember driving through DC afew days later, with my parents&sister on the annual Easter trek to Florida & seeing smoke rising from neighborhoods only blocks from the Washington Monument&the Capitol Building. The family thought me odd when I spent most of the day in the motel room watching the funeral on TV. I've twice been to the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis, once with my kids about 7 or 8 years ago. I intend to get my youngest down there again, as he was only 6 or 7 at the time. For those who dont know it's built on the site of the motel where King was shot, & they did a fine job.

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Steve

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joe j

Hey everyone. Much work and long hours these days. Still try and keep up with the conversation on the GB.

Serenity: I still love you.

"I try not to hurt anybody and stay out of a life of crime". Easier said than done.

It's all been said before but it's not so much what you say but how you 'tweak it'.

RIP Dewey Martin.

Bill M & David P: Love how you guys tie it all together. Seriously, put it all on paper or whatever format works these days.

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rosalind

" Did you know that every month we go without an economic recovery package 500 million Americans lose their jobs. I don't think we can change fast enough to stop that"

Can you imagine the dust-up if Bush had said that. Don't ya think that one out-done Quale's Potato gaff? And the bitch said it twice, and on different days.

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roz

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JQ

Rosalind & Bill M -

Thanks for bringing this one up, I had not heard the C Musselwhite version until now. I've got a couple of clear-ish memories of that tune and its time & place that might resonate with you too -

My 1st hearing was in 1969/70 and it was the Harvey Mandel version. It was mostly in reefer-drenched rooms with "sad music boxes sadly tinkling", for many nights then. It came to us by somebody's older brother that was an extremely cool genius & UC Berkeley guy that also made top-knotch LSD in his garage - the advert moniker for his product was: never ever speedy. During that song, normally late on, it was understood that everyone keep quiet and just groove; to do anything other than that was seen as being terribly rude and downright rowdy.

By 1973 I was a bartender at the LAX Marriott Hotel's top floor lounge: The Hanger. It had a 17th story view of that airport's runways; a pretty swinging & swanky place all right. Our canned background music - prior to when the "Trio" came on and got the traveling businessmen & local hookers to put down their Stingers & Rob Roys and jump up to dance to Satin Doll - featured the version by Donald Byrd. Although that tape's length was only an hour and otherwise crappy, I always enjoyed that 1 track; albeit mostly alone as my colleagues & cocktail waitress girlfriend would yawn, complain & roll their eyes at me when it came on... immediately after a Sammy Davis Jr version of Proud Mary I think. But I didn't budge in my hourly reverie as I remembered those mellow, stony & sexy evenings a few years earlier.

That's my story, I hadn't thought about that song much since then, until today.

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Charlie Y

Desert Island Discs, 2009: "Music From Big Pink," "Blonde on Blonde," "The Beatles" (while album), "Hums of the Lovin' Spoonful," "Pet Sounds," "The Wild, the Innocent and the E Street Shuffle," "Tupelo Honey" and "Chuck Berry's Great 28."

Speaking of the father of rock'n'roll, it was 30 years ago that Chuck Berry served time in PRISON for failure to pay taxes. These days he could pay up, apologize and get a cabinet position. Unbelievable. Too much monkey business, indeed! Let's send Bernie Madoff and all those huckster crooks to Guantanomo and let the Cubans have it back!

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Kevin J

Dunc: the list always changes – first island Gordon Lightfoot or The Faces have missed, but 8 makes it tough!

The Band – The Band ( The best example of strength from all 5 in all ways and oh what songs! )

Bob Dylan – Bootlegs Vol 1-3 ( the only artist ever to have such an astonishingly strong catalogue that a cd of outtakes could qualify for a Desert Island distinction )

The Replacements – Pleased to Meet Me ( attitude captured perfectly with some great songs “Can’t hardly Wait” an almost perfect song )

Stevie Ray Vaughn – The Sky is Crying ( perfect from beginning to end – never an urge to skip a song )

Lester Young – Complete Recordings ( genius )

David Bowie – The Best of Bowie 69-74

Pink Floyd – Wish you Were Here

The Kinks – The Ultimate Collection

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BONK

Subject: Vesuvius Inn

Bill M Until they closed it 3 years ago,it was my favorite watering hole. Saw a lot of great blues acts there over the years. Auntie Kate, Big Bill Morganfield, Gary Preston, 3 Chord Sloth Etc. There's talk on the island of some rich dude bringing it back to life.

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Bill M

Dunc: I can't even think of one desert island songs per se. But if we presume that the Split Enz' "Six Months In A Leaky Boat" is bound to end badly, there's one. "Santa Maria" by Trooper would be a similar second (key line: "With only fear and good judgment holding us back, we set out on the seven seas ...) "Timothy" by the Buoys is unthinkable for a reasons both moral and musical. If we open the door to metaphor, there's "I Am A Rock" (key line: "I have my books and my poetry to protect me" - best of luck, Paul).

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Bill M

Bonk: Do you drink at Vesuvius? One of the finest places to do so in the entire country, in my experience. For the view, if not the consumables.

Steve: Don't forget "Standing on the corner, watching all the [manless] girls go by". (Four Lads)

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Dunc

Subject: Desert Island Albums

As you khow Desert Island Discs is a British institution. Where it went wrong in my opinion is that it stayed with individual songs rather than picking your favourite 8 albums by 8 different artists.

After a lot of thought and in no particular order (other than my top album would be number one) here are my eight choices.

The Band(In my opinion the greatest album of all time)

Blonde on Blonde Bob Dylan (Magnificent)

Solid Air John Martyn(I'm going to sadly miss him. I was surprised that he didn't have a bigger following in the Guestbook. It was hard to select one album)

There Goes Rhymin' Simon Paul Simon(I think this album shows a variety of creativity and I played it a lot when it was newly released at a family holiday in St Andrews - a great place for a holiday)

Let it Be The Beatles(Surprisingly, this is my favourite Beatles album. I like the feel of this album and love Let it Be, The Long and Winding Road and Get Back.

Exile on Main Street The Rolling Stones(I would always pick a Stones album for a symbol of how Britain has changed for the better. Also Dunc's Wild Years.

Comes a Time -Neil Young I love this album and it contains a wonderful version of'Four Strong Winds', Canada's most popular song.(Thanks Steve)

Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrel's Greatest Hits. Perhaps other Scots would disagree but Soul for many years in Scotland was Tamla. I've ached over this choice and it wins over Stevie Wonder's Talking Book, which contains Jeff Beck's finest track.

What have I left out! What's your desert island albums?

Thanks Kevin.

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BONK

Subject: Quiz

NB. Let's have that quiz. By the way I lived in Bay Ridges for 10 years.

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Friend0

Feb 10th,Levon Helm Band performs on Conan O Brien show

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Steve

First question in NB's quiz. The 1970 Festival Express concert in Toronto had a blue and white flag that is visible for a couple of seconds at the beginning of the Dead's first song. What nation with in a nation does this flag represent? Answering this question assures a passing mark in the NB Quiz. Bonne Chance.

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Northern Boy

If you're game, I thought I'd throw a little music quiz your way. Nothing terribly esoteric you understand, like "what group was McCartney in prior to Wings ? ". I was thinking I'd limit the time frame from 1960 to 1975, and restrict it geographically from the Bandshell on the CNE grounds on the west, out to Bay Ridges on the east and then up to Barrie on the north. You could attempt it once unresearched off the top of your knowledgeable head, then reattempt any items you may not have gotten after 24 hours to complete some research.

However, I would not be able to promise you that the quiz would be free of the usual NB nonsense. My working title for it is "NB's Truly Trivial and Quite Questionable Music Trivia Questionnaire". Are we on Bill, or did I just waste 3 1/2 hours coming up with that title for nothing. RSVP.

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Steve

Well I'm standing on the corner, with my bucket in my hand, just waiting for a woman that ain't got no man. Clarence Williams.

In the credits for the Dead song it says "traditional" along with the names of the Dead members who got credit. Is that verse that's being referred to as "traditional"?

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Friend0

SoundExchange Welcomes Introduction of the Performance Rights Act

WASHINGTON, D.C. , February 6, 2009 – SoundExchange, which distributes digital performance royalties for 35,000 artists and 4,000 sound recording copyright owners, today expressed its deep gratitude to the sponsors from both parties of the Performance Rights Act of 2009. This overdue legislation would, after a long history of having been denied performance rights, ensure that the creators of music are paid for their works when their music is played on am/fm radio. SoundExchange commends Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Bob Corker (R-TN), and Barbara Boxer (D-CA); and in the House Representative John Conyers (D-MI), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Representatives Howard Berman (D-CA), Darrell Issa (R-CA), Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Jane Harman (D-CA), John Shadegg (R-AZ), Paul Hodes (D-NH) and Henry Waxman (D-CA) for their leadership in co-sponsoring this legislation.

"The importance of fairness in getting paid for the work that you do has never been as profound as it is during these uncertain economic times," said John Simson, Executive Director of SoundExchange. "It's a very rational, thought-through piece of legislation that not only seeks fairness for music's creators, but does it in a fair-minded way. For example, while it recognizes the importance of paying people for their work, it ensures that small and non-commercial radio stations are protected."

SoundExchange expressed hope that the Congress will respond to the call from thousands of musicians over eight decades and finally grant this long overdue right.

A section-by-section analysis of the legislation can be found at:
http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200902/020409a.html#section

Text of the legislation can be found at:

http://judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/upload/PerformanceRightsIntroduced.pdf

For additional information on the Performance Rights Act, please visit:

www.musicfirstcoalition.org

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Bill M

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Joan

I was a Senior in college when Martin Luther King was shot. It happened mid week, and Peter Paul & Mary were booked to perform that Saturday. We were sure they would cancel, but they didn't. They opened their set with And When I Die, dedicated to King. The emphasis on the line, there'll be one child left in this world to carry on. I have always thought of King since when I hear that song.

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David P.

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rosalind

He sure is..

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Kevin J

"Steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you King" - B. Dylan.......See what happens when corporations are allowed into the black market.

Bruce Springsteen says he's 'furious' with Ticketmaster

Beth Defalco, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS .

When tickets for Springsteen's show at New Jersey's Meadowlands went on sale Monday, some fans got an error message on their computer screen that shut them out. The potential ticket-buyers then saw an ad for Ticketmaster subsidiary TicketsNow offering tickets for hundreds of dollars more than face value. Springsteen said on his website Wednesday that he and the E Street Band are "furious." "We perceive this as a pure conflict of interest," the band said. "Ticketmaster is there to ensure that we have a good, fair sale of our tickets at their face value plus normal ticketing charges." TicketsNow allows people who have tickets to exchange, trade or sell them at marked-up prices. The band said it has received assurances from Ticketmaster that it will stop redirecting Springsteen fans to TicketsNow. The snub to Springsteen fans on Monday prompted U.S. Representative Bill Pascrell to call on the Federal Trade Commission and Justice Department to investigate possible conflicts of interest involving Ticketmaster and TicketsNow. The New Jersey attorney general's office is also investigating whether Ticketmaster has violated any consumer fraud or ticket resale laws. Several phone messages left Wednesday for Ticketmaster Entertainment Inc. spokesman Albert Lopez were not returned. On Tuesday, a company spokesman said only a few fans reported problems. But state attorney general's spokesman David Wald said the office has received more than 250 complaints since Monday.

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Bill M

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David P.

Mr. Musselwhite appeared with Levon, Robbie & Garth, along with Jimmy Lewis on bass and Mike Bloomfield on piano, as sidemen on John Hammond's 1965 Vanguard album "So Many Roads".

I still have my old mono LP copy of "Stand Back". Guitar aficionados treasure it because if features the great Harvey Mandel. The amazing thing is that the talented Charlie Musselwhite is still going strong.

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Bill M

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Kevin J

Just returned from a visit to Itunes – purchased some John Prine, TVZ, Murray Head ( “Say it Ain’t So Joe” seems too be all that is available ), Randy Newman and the Ritchie Blackmore Rainbow Album – anyone remember “Man on a Silver Mountain”. Of interest to Steve – also purchased some Robert Charlebois. Interestingly, wanted some Marjolene Morin but only one song available. Same with Claude Dubois. Anyhow both of these folks are a percentage of 99 cents richer now!

For anyone interested in turning on to someone they may not have paid any attention to since The Jam disbanded, I have been having a blast discovering the volume of great music Paul Weller has made over the last 15 years. Spend $2.97 on “Out of the Sinking”, “Sunflower” and “Brand new Start” as a sample of what you are in for. I doubt that anyone would be disappointed. All three from his Hits package.

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rosalind

Subject: Charlie's Medicine

Thanks for all that information Bill M

Sorry, David P didn't see your mention..

I love the album under the link. Man, the guy's unbelievable.

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Steve

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Bill M

Back to Dewey. He certainly had an interesting and itinerant early career, from rockabilly in hometown Ottawa, to C&W with Orbison and others in Nashville, to leading his Brit-beat group in Seattle (recording as variants of Sir Walter Raleigh and the Coupons), to more progressive country in LA with the Dillards, then to Buffalo Springfield - and then a short-lived solo career that yielded a worthy LP and a couple of 45s.

Odd, but I thought of him early this morning as I was walking out the door, mostly because I was carrying a Robbie Lane and the Disciples CD and it struck me that Dewey's replacement in Revisited was Sonny Milne, the drummer on the early Disciples stuff.

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Frank Mason

Subject: The Last Waltz

I recently acquired a nice surround-sound system; I bought a Last Waltz DVD as the first movie to watch with fancy sound system. I've watched it several times; I hope that my neighbors enjoyed the movie as well (the instructions at the beginning of the movie state that, "This movie is supposed to play loud.").

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David P.

Congratulations to the multi-talented Charlie McCoy, who will be inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame this year!

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rosalind

I just read that Dewey Martin died. He died on the first of Feb and it's just now hit the papers? Didn't anyone hear about this earlier?

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David P.

I believe Peter, Paul & Mary were the first to cover "And When I Die", as I recall hearing it first on their 1966 LP "Album". PP&M of course were managed by Albert Grossman and Laura Nyro was David Geffen's first entry into bigtime management.

Ms. Nyro, who shied away from the spotlight and tragically left us way too soon, was a uniquely gifted artist.

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bob w

Great to see Laura Nyro's name here. She was an incredible talent. Here's a couple of pretty talented musicians paying tribute.

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rosalind

Dlew - That song's been around for eons. Laura Nyro wrote it, I think. Nyro done her version, Elvis doen one and I love Sammy's rendition too but the song charted big with David Clayton Thomas with Blood, Sweat and Tears. Check link

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Friend0

Folks, Paul Stamler is a musicologist,recording engineer, musician & singer. As his alter ego, Pablo Meshugee, he hosts a great Sunday afternoon radio show, titled No Time To Tarry Here. You can listen to Paul on KDHXFM.org

And he also writes for Recording Magazine.

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dlew919

Does anyone know a song where the refrain goes 'and when i'm dead dead dead and gone/ there'll be nothing left, to carry on, to carry on/

The only time i've heard it was by sammy davis jr on here's lucy. So band connections galore

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Paul Stamler

Subject: If I Lose, Let Me Lose

Hi folks: "If I lose, let me lose" was in fact recorded by Charlie Poole & the North Carolina Ramblers a couple of decades before the Stanley Bros. began performing. Ralph Stanley may have copyrighted a version of it, but Charlie Poole was singing the song when Ralph was still a kid, and he wasn't the first; Maggie Jones recorded it in 1925, two years before Poole's version came out. It has been credited to Tom Delaney, but in the case of a song like this, with many floating verses, authorship is a slippery thing. (It shares a tune with the turn-of-the-century "Battleship of Maine" and the oddball "Joking Henry".) If I had to guess, I'd say it started out on the minstrel stage, but it'd take a good deal of research, and luck, to find out. Peace, Paul

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Northern Boy

Subject: Stevon Farm / Peter V. : The Brits Have Big Balls Too ! (Hampstead Heath)

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rosalind

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rosalind

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Serenity

Seeya soon xoxoxo

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Pat B

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Mike

Subject: Beautiful Opus 40 winter pic.

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Serenity

Subject: Glenn Miller

Found my fave of "At Last". Glenn Miller's band with the wonderful Bob Eberle singing. Now this is what I call good music.

Seeya soon xoxoxo

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Serenity

Sounds to me like Etta James is jealous of Beyonce. Maybe because she wasn't asked to perform "her" song. "Her" song was a biggie from Glenn Miller many moons ago, which was a great song then.

JOAN: Thanks for the link. Nice to see/hear it again.

Talk later xoxoxo

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Friend0

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kristie

Thanks Roz. The full intro is even better.

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kristie

Subject: oh, I really should check them first....

here goes..... Kevin-I am wearing that hat today. It sort of looks like a prospectors hat. Weird for a girl I guess. It would look great on Robbie!

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roz

Kristie - Is this the one?

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rosalind

Subject: A Day In The Life of Townes, Geraldine, Cindy and Smith and Wesson.

Leeepus! It's Them Giant Rabbits

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Kevin J

Kristie: I also got "Object Not Found" I then looked closer and saw a great Hat.

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Kevin J

David P: There was a special on Buddy Holly last night which featured some great interviews with Tommy Allsup and Buddy’s last drummer. I only caught the last bit of it and do not know what it was called but seemed like a very good little documentary. No one should ever complain about tough touring conditions after watching this……..just incredible what they had to endure. It certainly was a godd*mn impossible way of life………..

dlew: good to know and all the best in new position......though, I do hope you made it clear at the enrty interview that The Band has been, is and always will be the most important thing in your life!

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Bill M

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Karen

Subject: I'm Back (out of boredom)

Rosalind, check out The Raconteurs on You Tube especially "Old Enough" at Bonaroo. Also, there is a bluegrass version of above mentioned song showing on CMT Pure. Maybe I'm bein' superficial but I enjoy lookin' at Brendan Benson (the dirty blond).Yep, I'm bad like that.

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Kristie

The film"Heartworn Highway"(where the clip is from ) is really great. At least I enjoyed it. Have you seen it, and are you not a fan of Townes? As for the clip, if that is the first song he ever wrote...well there is not much hope for the rest of us.

As for "Tinderbox" I wrote a few weeks ago I that I was really enjoying it, and mentioned that the songwriting seemed really timeless to me.

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David P.

The great steel guitarist Tom Brumley passed away Tuesday. He played with Buck Owens & the Buckaroos and later in Rick Nelson's pioneering Stone Canyon Band. The Buckaroos covered both "Up On Cripple Creek" and "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down". He was the son of the gospel songwriter Albert E. Brumley, who wrote classics such as "I'll Fly Away" and "Turn Your Radio On".

Also -- Dewey Martin, former drummer with the Buffalo Springfield, died on Jan. 31st.

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dlew919

recently started full-time employment for someone else after years of working for myself. As i settle in, things elsewhere get slow - but i'm here every day. Just silent. Nice to be missed

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Bill M

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Joan

Subject: Serenity

For you, Beyonce does Tina

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Kevin J

20 years later abd Chuck Berry was right.....Etta had no business singing ome of his songs! Oh Etta - what goes around ...comes around..............

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kristie

She says she doesn't like Obama, and he "ain't her president" and he "has big ears." She sounds hilarious!

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Serenity

Watch Showbiz tonight for this event. CNN Show biz Tonight Channel # 80 cable [HLN]

ETTA JAMES VS. BEYONCE! Etta James goes off on Beyonce! Why Etta says she can't stand Beyonce -- and even goes after President Obama! You have to hear this for yourself, tonight!

Take care xoxoxo

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Serenity

KEVIN J: I have other interests that take my time, but I do check in now and again to see how everyone is doing and post news or whatever. Thank you for asking.

Talk to you again soon. xoxoxo

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Friend0

I dont want you girls pulling each others hair, so, in Bumbles' honor,lets just say I posted the link first, but it just took a long time to show up.

etta has always been known to say some wild things on stage. Including, "I got me a pu--y. I got me a pu--y"

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Kevin J

The Beatles wrote 50 great songs in 6 years – why can’t these people post again - or more?

Julie

AlEdge

Dlew

Ignatius

Serenity

Todd

bob w

Dunc

Carol

Pat B

mattk

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kristie

Subject: A little Townes

Fantastic.

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Joan

Sorry Jean. I missed your post before I posted mine. No one upsmanship there. Hopefully you won't pull a "Bumbles" on me. :-D

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Joan

Subject: Etta James & Beyonce

Etta James ans her "take" on Beyonce singing 'A Last"

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Jean

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Serenity

ROS: Glad to hear your mother is feeling better. The past is in the past and all is forgotten.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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David P.

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Jean

Subject: Etta James is not happy

Note: Ms. James made the Rolling Stone list; Beyonce did not. I know I was surprised that Beyonce had been picked to sing 'At Last'. That song just belongs to Etta James. The only place Beyonce should be singing it is in the shower. IMHO.

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Jean

Subject: #91 - Levon

Rolling Stone's top 100 singers - was this posted before? Sorry if this is redundant. Lots of Band influences and TLW participants on the list. Sadly, neither Richard nor Rick made the list.

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rosalind

Subject: Ironic Creepy

La La La La La La La La La La La La POW

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rosalind

Subject: Creepy Song Time

If you listen to the song sung by Bonnie Beecher under the link I left back yonder you will hear one of "those" songs. Those kinds of songs that long after you've "experienced" them, hang around, clinging to the walls of your brain like bats.. Here's another one. I sometimes wander thru the woods on a summer nite wearing a gown of flowing gauze singing this song to myself as the ghosts and the fairies come out

Rich Yes, Benny is my favorite too...

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Landmark

Favourite Warren Oates film has to be "Dillinger" which also featured people such as Michelle Phillips, Ben Johnson, Dabney Coleman, and a young Richard Dreyfuss. I believe it was John Millius' feature film directorial debut.

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Joan

Subject: Lyrics

The lyrics to Rickety Tickety Tin

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rich

warren oates roz,absolute top actor.there's a few of his movies i've yet to see,cockfighter being one of them.it was banned in britain when it came out ,though i doubt if that's still the case.two-lane blacktop is classic,but my favourite warren oates major starring role movie has got to be 'bring me the head of alfredo garcia'.just brilliant.they've just re-released it over here in the cinema,but in london only.i'll always have a soft spot though for 'race with the devil'.enjoyable trash of the highest order. take care.

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Joan

I truly am a pathetic typist. I can't even spell my name right.

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Joaan

Washington DC is another city that cannot cope with snow. A couple of inches and the whole city closes down in panic. Washington has been described as a city with all the efficiency of a southern city and all the charm of a northern city.

All the body parts reminded me of the song Rickety Tickety Tin.' " About a maid I'll sing a song. She did not have her family long, but she did everyone of them in"

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Bill M

I heard this flamenco version of "It Ain't Me Babe" on the radio yesterday. Very effective. Who'da thunk?

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Bill M

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Kevin J

Subject: Optimism meets Depression - ABBA/L. Cohen

See attachement - ABBA does Len. No yuppies dancing in the aisles to this one but a lovely cover...........

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Steve

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Kevin J

Subject: Suzanne done right

A better version by Nick Cave...........

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Kevin J

Subject: James Taylor

See clip above of James Taylor doing "Suzanne" on Tonight Show. A mediocre reading...........

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rosalind

Subject: "He Came To Town with His Cock in His Hand And What He Did With It Was Illegal In 47 States"

That's how they marketed "Cockfighter". Stars Warren Oates and Harry Dean Stanton in a 1970's southern exploitation film about the uniquely brutal ass scratchin' snot spittin' rednckin' shitkickin' sport of Cockfighting.

No one ever gets me anything worth anything for any holiday or so I took it into my own hands to give myself the best-est of all birthday presents for my own birthday

Cockfighter
Two-Lane Blacktop-
Deadhead Miles

Rich from Wales knows what I mean.

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Lars

Subject: LUXURY

JQ- Tree bark? Our family used to DREAM about eating tree bark. Our Dad made us eat gravel, until the dental bills made him switch to treacle.

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JQ

Gruel, eh? Oh how you suffered - after we finished off the buggie & wiped out our stores of cold (no heat, mind you) tree bark we finshed off little sister and Mommy & Dad wouldn't even share the good parts. n\ Stop complaing!

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Landmark

Subject: Bad Taste Alert (though somewhat related)

At least you didn't have to jerk off the dog to feed the cat.

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Landmark

And trek 12 miles to school and back every day with insuffienct clothing as my dad did.

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Peter V

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Bill M

Kristie: A belated note to say that I'm glad you like "Aardvark". Did you ever get around to "Tinderbox", which appears to be developing a following among the women of BC.

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Peter V

Snow … now that it’s over we can look back bemused at our three days of light snow, the worst fall in eighteen years. Here in the extreme south, we had two inches and most schools were closed for “health and safety” reasons. German friends whose kids are at school here were bemused, “What snow?” they asked. At our doctors’ surgery, with a steep slope up to the door, no one had swept the drive and it was lethal. The local accident dept was inundated with broken legs and hips. The local supermarket on the third day had old people slthering across the slush because no one had thought fit to sweep up the paths. It is dangerous here, because no one sweeps the sidewalk outside their house, few roads are gritted. There’s a steep hill on a major urban road near my house that recorded six “slides and crashes” on the second day. No grit. No snow ploughs … scrapped twenty years ago as an economy measure.

No one under fifty knows how to drive on snow. The first day, I was doing twenty-five on packed ice with a white van about three feet off my rear flashing to get by. I turned a corner and there were a group of teenagers having a snowball fight in the road (having walked to school and been turned away, I assume). I stopped. Fortunately the van’s subsequent sideways slide didn’t hit me or anyone else, though I was irritated that it hadn’t hit a lampost. The first day (two inches of powdery snow) we had no postal deliveries. Health and safety again. In the sixties I delivered post in nine inches of snow without thinking anything of it. Grumble. We were far tougher then etc etc etc. Mumble.

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Peter V

The James Taylor who recorded "How sweet It Is' is the singer, not the jazz instrumentalist, Bill. As is this, "the more famous of the two famous James Taylors."

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Bill M

Rosalind: If you do leave the US for the EU, I think you'll find that absinthe makes the heart grow fonder.

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Peter V

James Taylor’s latest album “Covers” might appeal. It was recorded “live” in ten days in a barn in Western Massachusetts. By “live” I guess he means everyone present and playing at the same time right through a song. The band is his touring band including Steve Gadd on drums. Yo Yo Ma guests on cello on Suzanne, a clever track to push as Hallelujah leaves the top of the charts in the UK. Excellent cover of The Temptations’ fine “It’s Growing” their original of which would be one of my “Motown Top Ten” discs. He does it much as he did How Sweet It Is years ago. I realized recently that when I noted my favourite Motown singles, The Temptations had even more than Marvin Gaye (who I’d thought was my favourite. He still is, but because of LPs not singles).

The international edition has three extra tracks, Oh, What A Beautiful Morning, Knock on Wood and Shiver Me Timbers. It was explained to me last week that with bonus tracks it’s all down to price. While the USA often buys albums very cheaply, they cost 50% more in Europe and 100% more in Japan, so Europe gets some bonus tracks, while Japan will get the same bonus tracks plus an obligatory one more.

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rosalind