The Band Guestbook, October 2001

Posted on Wed Oct 31 23:48:48 CET 2001 from (64.12.104.168)

The Count

Calvin - great points - love it - however (you too Bones) Im not saying he's pushed around by the MACHINE - Im saying he is the MACHINE and has tried to be part of it for a while - his actions (getting others to sign away publishing rights, hoarding songwriting credits, getting the most popular (Money Money Money Money) 20-30 something aged artists and a top selling producer to appear on his first album) - Now when you're the head of A/R for Geffen or SKG how hard do you think it'll be to get your album promoted or played on the air or written up in Rolling Stone ? Not very hard - PS - I love Robbies songs and guitar playing - as a drummer I recognize his rhythmatic genius - Im a huge backer - Ive just been soured lately by some moves and lack of recognition of other sources in interviews he's done

Posted on Wed Oct 31 22:31:10 CET 2001 from (205.188.196.37)

Brien Sz

Peter, Peter, Peter, Peter..,I like Van, You Obviously think he's 'the cats meow' (that's American for 'better than sliced bread') but his work these last twenty years is suspect (IMO) There are some gems for sure, many that never hear anything close to radio play BUT some of his work can now be prescribed as medication for insomnia. Yea Bob and Paul have suspect work..,or should i say OH YEA! But I would venture this.., Eric Clapton and Neil Young have put out more solid material than Van over your same time period.., Clapton went a bit soft at times, yes and Neil is.., well Neil but for my money (later i'll be swimming in that special room)those two have put out cd's I at least can make it through without going.., "What track is this?..," Just thoughts and to poke some good humored fun - I'll give you this though.., I'll take 10 of Van's best tracks over the last twenty years than either EC or NY because Van at his best is more interesting to me, than the other two.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 22:01:26 CET 2001 from (198.235.69.172)

Richard

Goodbye Sam the Record Man. Yonge St will never be the same. Thanks for the music and memories since 1961, Sam Sniderman!

Posted on Wed Oct 31 21:58:50 CET 2001 from (205.188.199.161)

Bayou Sam

Tony = nice post about your trek through the N.E. I enjoyed your it.

Bob Wigo = funny, great, you go man.

Darleen = don't let that previous "beating" get to you. Consider the source. I knew what you meant. It's cool.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 21:36:28 CET 2001 from (63.17.109.221)

HI

Did what's his name slip in here under an alias, "you people"?

Posted on Wed Oct 31 21:08:15 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

Certainly, Robbie has more business savvy than the others, but he does not get pushed around by some sort of "machine". He makes the records he wants to make, when he wants to make them. Like most artists, he would love for them to be popular, but not at the expense of the quality of the work.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 20:37:16 CET 2001 from (195.82.121.130)

Peter Viney

Donald, a whole post just for you. As for Van the Man, well, as the outstanding performer on the Last Waltz I guess he merits the odd plug here (not that I’ve ever praised his recent gigs with the Red Hot Pokers). My feeling is that while Dylan and Lennon-McCartney are the most likely icons representing 20th century rock for future generations, over the last 20 years Van has turned out a more consistent and satisfying body of work than either Bob or Sir Paul. True there are some dull departures in there, but overall he wins the 1980-2001 contest hands down, while Bob would obviously come first if you take the dates 1962 to 2001. And Van’s minor albums of the period are not as bad as the worst that Bob and Sir Paul have come up with in the same period. Above all Van can still sing with his full power. Listening to his 1969 demos, and 1973 boots recently, he’s alone among those who came to prominence in the 60s in having a far richer and better voice now than he did way back then. Bob wins on total number of gigs played, but Van continues to tour regularly, unlike most of his contemporaries. Listening to Van’s voice on ‘Just Like A Woman’ in 1999 saw a power that Bob is no longer able to give to the song, and Van’s version of ‘You Don’t Know Me’ ranks up there with Ray Charles and Richard Manuel. He also does an excellent ‘I Can’t Stop Loving You’ when so inclined. Now if only he’d ditch his third rate band and enlist Levon and Garth we’d really see something.

So, listening task. Which is the ultimate version of ‘Caravan’? Is it ‘Too Late To stop Now’ or ‘The Last Waltz’? I don’t have an answer. Couldn’t do without either.

Now if I can jump the queue of Floridians waiting to reply (that was British, meaning cut into the line rather than have carnal relations with them), it’s pretty clear that Florida would have bad personal memories for members of The Band. I guess you need to talk with Tom Petty about Florida and rock and roll. To be fair, Winter Park can hardly be blamed for the events that happened there, and it does have the virtue of being one of the rare places in the USA where most of the inhabitants know how to parallel-park competently.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 20:23:58 CET 2001 from (208.243.237.32)

Mike

Bob Wigo: I'll buy one of those hats only if the profits don't go to DJ himself. I hope you can obtian a super fine resolution of a horse's ass with a silkscreen. Those shirts would be the hottest thing since turtlenecks. Hell, they'll be sold at every JC Penney, and even on QVC! /n Tommy: I finished your cd's and mailed them today. I threw in a little extra becasue of the delay. I hope you enjoy them. /n I never did understand the whole thing with Jacko and Macca over the entire catalog. All I hope is that Paul can obtain the rights ot them again. Jacko really has no grasp as to how significant the catalog is anyhow. And here's to hoping that Paul's catalog is sonically upgraded/remastered in the near future, especially Wings Over America. Time will tell, I suppose. Peace. n/ Mike

Posted on Wed Oct 31 19:37:34 CET 2001 from (159.105.102.6)

John Cass

Hey Donald Joseph,lighten up you are one of those oldtimers I see at concerts that thinks all the young kids should stick with the Britney Spears and all that other new crap and give all the younger fans the attitude because you feel they don't deserve the right to see a Bob Dylan, or Levon Helm etc.. well most of the older acts find it quite amazing to see the younger faces in the audience at their shows and for them to reach different generations of fans gives them a feeling of great pride. I think you need to remember that you too was once a young concert goer and even you had your "first" Bob Dylan show and the person next to you could of been to his 50th. I am 28 years old and been to well over 100 shows I have seen the likes of BB King, The Band, Dylan, Van Morrison, Little Feat, Allman Brothers, John Hammond, Levon Helm&Barnburners etc... and most of the younger people at those shows have more respect for the artist because they all wish that they had the chance to see those artist in there prime and for the most part its the younger fans who keep the artists young by going to the shows and letting the artist know that the music still rocks for all ages.

Why such the mean remarks for the lady from Florida?? she didn't know the Band isn't together anymore, at least she is a fan of the music... to many attitudes in this GB it seems. Why do some people in here constantly need to prove how they know more about this and that. I feel its answers like yours that keeps people for asking questions... theres no stupid questions, if someone dosen't know something ask. I have had nice people answer most of the ones I have asked in the past years.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 18:40:11 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Although the multi-talented Rita Moreno has been awarded an Oscar, as well as a Tony, an Emmy and a Grammy, I was surprised to see her mentioned here in the guestbook. Come to think of it, however, she does share a distinction with Robbie Robertson. They both have played film roles opposite Jack Nicholson that required a certain level of intensity in their performances. Fortunately for Mr. Robertson, his big confrontational scene with Mr. Nicholson in "The Crossing Guard" did not demand the same "hands-on" approach, shall we say, required of Ms. Moreno for her famous scene with Mr. Nicholson in "Carnal Knowledge". All you film buffs know what I mean.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 17:56:57 CET 2001 from (205.188.199.168)

Calvin

Count, your point about Robbie being pushed by THE MACHINE(And I got to tell you the phrase meade me laugh out loud) Doesnt hold any weight at all, excuse the pun. Robbie's 2 non NA albums recieved very little publicity amoung the young record buyer set, it was a big seller among 30+ set, an ange group very little music advertising is directed at. And his movie soundtracks, well he works mostly with a man who has to occasionaly direct fils he doesnt want to so he can get financing for his pet project, Scorcese while respected is hardly a box office director. I think Robbie is seen by the public who pays attention to music as a "prestige" musician who supports himself doing movie soundtracks while he does "important" work. I dont agree, but I think that is the perception.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 17:53:37 CET 2001 from (166.90.86.242)

Pat Brennan

2 Keyboard Bands: Procol Harum, Let It Be Beatles (Preston & McCartney), Hornsby's touring group.....

Posted on Wed Oct 31 17:21:40 CET 2001 from (205.188.196.38)

Brien Sz

Donald J. good take on King Harvest.., If you're relying on someone else to take you out of the gutter, then your in for a long wait. Boot Straps baby.., the only way to go! At least you can have self satisfaction

Posted on Wed Oct 31 16:49:17 CET 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

A perfect time for "King Harvest." The union doesn't fool the farmer at all. The farmer is only doing what he has to do. I grew up in the cotton fields of the Delta. My Mother and Father were picking cotton in their diapers. My husband's Father has been a farmer for 50 years and inherited his land from many generations of farmers. For all I know...I maybe a farmer one day. I get many messages from "King Harvest." None political from the farmer...even though he has to deal with political factors. The song does highlight the joys of the harvest and the Autumn celebrations....as well as the lifestyle of the farmer. Working all hot summer for the yield of the fall. The crop is EVERYTHING to the farmer and his family. A healthy crop is the money to pay the mortgage, buy fertilizer, feed for the livestock, food on the table, school clothes for the children, a new dress for the wife. King Harvest is LIFE to the farmer. Every fall season brings hopes and dreams and fears too. The song explains how the farmer remembers last season when his barn went up in smoke and his horse went mad. The song invokes other thoughts for me. Maybe the farmer remembers the shame suffered through the loss of last year's crop....his kids sleeping under a roof where they can view stars through the cracks...the cold air blowing through. He possibly remembers the shame and thankfulness of the money jar on the local store's counter...a collection for his family. This is "Skid Row" for the farmer. A proud man...this farmer...joins the union to save his family's life. Hoping against hope that this will get him through one more year. "Looks like this time I'm gonna get to stay." I am refering, in this post, to a farmer that owns his own land. Think of all the farmers who can't pay their leases because of a bad crop. The farmer says what the union wants to hear so that he may protect ALL that he holds dear. Hey I rhymed!

My three sons...a ten year old and 20 month old twins...have been listening to The Band and Bob Dylan since their days in the womb. I hear the acoustics are really fantastic in there!

HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!

Posted on Wed Oct 31 16:47:21 CET 2001 from (209.166.233.21)

Jon Lyness

There are a lot of NYC concerts happening in the next month or so...wonderful & sorely needed. Here's a few new ones you might be interested in:

Tribeca Blues, 16 Warren Street, NYC (phone 212.766.1070)--a series of benefit shows for NYPD/FDNY Widows' & Children's Funds. Friday, November 9, 7 pm: Levon Helm, Michael Falzarano, The Kerry Kearney Band, The Mississippi Clay Blues Band, 5 Points Band. Saturday, November 10 pm: Commander Cody, Professor Louie & the Crowmatix, Blue Storm, The Detenators, Witness Protection. Great people & a great cause. See you there, folks.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 16:09:03 CET 2001 from (64.12.104.174)

bob wigo

Mr. Joseph, you presumptuous ? Go on.

"DJ is God" hats are now on sale. I'm currently working on the t-shirts. It's so difficult to capture the essence of a horse's ass with the silkscreen process.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 14:46:39 CET 2001 from (194.82.103.149)

Roger Woods

Any GBers going to see the Jayhawks in London on 12 November? It would be good to meet up. Get in touch.

Roger

Posted on Wed Oct 31 14:45:21 CET 2001 from (209.195.208.10)

bassmanlee

Peter, the Oct. 25 Fresh Air with Terry Gross program (programme?) was centered on the 40th anniversary of West Side Story and included an interview with Rita Moreno and Marnie Nixon. They discussed the overdubs used in the film and cast recording, and a few guarded comments on the accreditation of who sang what by Columbia. Nixon dubbed Natalie Wood's singing in the film, who performed all the songs during filming thinking her voice would be used in the final film. A third singer (mentioned in the program but the name escapes me) also had to do some of the low notes for Moreno in a horrible Mexican accent that still makes her cringe. ("A boy like dat, he keel your brudda...") The reference to credits revolved around this third person, I believe. Was Rita Moreno in the original Broadway cast...as Maria? I'm not sure. I remember someone I knew being incensed that Woods got the part in the film while Rita played second banana. I should have included the Broadway version of WSS, which I greatly prefer to the film verions, as one of those seminal LPs a while back.

Looking at the recent archive page of the Fresh Air website (above) I notice the next day's show features Al Kooper, maybe salvaging this post from being completely Band-irrelevant. Somehow.

Been hearing some live appearances by Nick Lowe on public radio lately...Mountain Stage & somewhere else. I love Impossible Bird and Dig My Mood. Anyone heard his latest?

Go Curt, go! (We can't all be Yankee fans!)

Posted on Wed Oct 31 14:37:29 CET 2001 from (64.23.165.18)

JTull Fan

Peter Shaw: I essentially agree with you. NEITHER political party represents my views adequately; it comes down to choosing the lesser of two evils. ON TO A MUSIC THREAD: I appreciated the comments on King Harvest. That song resonates JohnSteinbeck to me and has the same inner bitterness and resignation as Dixie. Driving in to work I was thinking: 'Is the narrator in King Harvest a descendent of Virgil Caine, perhaps a grandson, trying to work and save the very same family farm in the 1920's or 30's?' ANy other song or song links on the Brown Album? Is the narrator on Lookout Cleveland the son of the King Harvest Narrator? Are the friends in Rocking Chair cousins of Virgil Caine who stayed in Virginia versus migrating to KY or TN?

Posted on Wed Oct 31 14:30:20 CET 2001 from (205.188.198.57)

bob wigo

Tony, how dare you contradict Mr. Joseph like that ? You brazen whippersnapper.

You will not enjoy Bob Dylan or know anything of him or his songs and that will be that until Mr. Joseph allows you otherwise.

Learn your place young man.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 13:43:00 CET 2001 from (64.229.186.185)

brown eyed girl

"All right, I'll take a chance, I will fall in love with you
If I'm a fool you can have the night, you can have the morning too.
CAN YOU COOK AND SEW, MAKE FLOWERS GROW,
Do you understand MY PAIN?
Are you willing to risk it all
OR IS YOUR LOVE IN VAIN?

IS YOUR LOVE IN VAIN? Dylan 1978.......STREET LEGAL......

When I think of STREET LEGAL.......These are the lyrics that I remember the most.......Tim Riley also comments on these lyrics that Dylan without embarrassment gave his feminist critics ammunition to add to the tabloids' allegations of wife-beating surrounding his divorce (never mind his obliviousness to the song title's copped Robert Johnson conceit).

Posted on Wed Oct 31 12:41:23 CET 2001 from (193.203.148.100)

Hank

TOMMY: Jackson buying The Beatles back catalogue is very big business.....Macca moans about it but the thing is that it's not as if Maccas losing money...in fact, it's advantageous to Macca and Yoko in that they all get a big payday when, say, something like 'Revolution' is leased to Nike.....the thing is, Macca wouldn't want to be seen leasing off the rights to a sneaker company.....but he profits from it when Jackson does it...Macca's in for a substantial cut......Remember when Dylan leased the rights to 'The Times They are a Changing' a few years ago?...he got flak for it....selling out and all that.....but, then again, it was pointed out here recently that when 'The Weight' was leased to Diet Coke a few years ago, members of The Band and their dependants were handsomely paid by Bob Dylan.....'a godsend' according to Rick. All in all .....big business.......

All this reminds of something Tom Waits said about Michael Jackson a while ago.....something like:

' I wish John Lennon would come back from the dead and kick Michael Jacksons ass in a way we would ALL enjoy'

Well said, Tom.......

By the way, SUSAN, I don't regard 'King Harvest' a PRO-Union song no more than I think 'Twilight' is a PRO-draft song........I was just a bit put out by these right wing left wing descriptions of political situations which I think are misleading and pointless.....and since this is a Band GB I wanted to make it somewhat relevant............but thanks for sharing your thoughts......that's what I love about this GB.

I could go on and on here but my wife needs a spin into town......

Posted on Wed Oct 31 07:43:21 CET 2001 from (24.4.255.48)

Donald Joseph

Viney, oh Viney: You miss my point entirely. College-age kids can, and do, dig Alias all they want. I went to college well over a decade after Blonde-on-Blonde (I attended '78-'82), and I saw Alias during my college years (I caught the Chi. Stadium stop of the Budokan tour in '78). But I wasn't a Dylan Baby -- I knew all the songs & sidemen & lore. I'd seen The Last Waltz plenty of times by then. My b*tch isn't about college kids diggin' Alias -- it's about neophytes of any age attending an Alias show while thinking "Like a Rollin' Stone" means "resembling Mick Jagger," believing "Judas Priest" is just a heavy metal band (& "John Wesley Harding" a singer-songwriter), and understanding "[You] Gotta Serve Somebody" as an order from their shift manager at TGIFridays.

C'mon, Viney, read my stuff through to the end before pontificating and volunteering your kid's concert attendance history.

Indeed, I'm not sure I follow YOUR rant re Junior's appearance at Alias's Northwestern show last year. In fact, that show was on Halloween night, exactly a year ago today. In fact, I was there, in the crowd -- probably telling your kid to stub out his joint out and listen to the music the way his dad taught him.

So ya wanna talk "Street Legal"? I, too (having seen the Budokan tour) have always been a "Street Legal" head, but while "Senor" gets all the praise, check out "Journey Through Dark Heat" and the beginning of "New Pony." Also the JGB's cover of "Senor" is fun.

Bob Wigo: I'll overlook your sarDONic tone and thank you for elevating me, as a hero, above NY's finest & bravest. I dare say I have better taste in music than they do. Indeed, presumptuous though it may be, I have fancied myself the hero (of sorts) to fans of enlightened Band commentary -- those weary of Viney's pedantry & gratuitous Van Morrison plugs. So can we all Wigo out and DON baseball caps emblazoned with "DJ"?

Darlene Randall: Sorry, Hon, The Band isn't touring any more, in the North or South, because too many members have either (1) left the group because the road has taken too many great ones, or (2) died.

Get with it, Darlene. You say you want to see The Band in Fla. Where were you that night in the mid-80's when The Band booked a show in Ft. Lauderdale, Mark Lavon got sick, and Richard & Rick had to do a living-room-style duo acoustic set to fill out the show (making up for all the tunes they couldn't do sans Mark Lavon)? I was there that night, Darlene. It was in South Florida, Honey. But I didn't see you.

And Darlene? Why do you Florida people all think the North is so cold you can't travel up here once in a while, such as to catch a show? Plenty of Northerners spend money in your Mickey-Mouse state; why don't you return the favor? I've lived in Florida, and I recognize your attitude. Its not healthy, Darlene. If you don't like rock-n'-rollers staying away from you beloved culture-blighted Florida, then leave the Sunshine State for a day to catch a show up North. For you to ask, of all people, The Band to come to Fla. is absurd. Darlene, The Band (80%) is from Canada. These boys call their home the 'land of snow.' Indeed, these boys'd rather be burned in Canada than to freeze there in the South.

And -- speaking as someone who suffered through law school in Fla. and is now in Chicago -- so would I.

Now y'all warmed up for Unca' Donnie Joe's take on your silly right wing/left wing spat? Here's the infused wisdom from on high: "King Harvest" is no left wing pro-labor union song. While the naieve, uneducated, farm-worker narrator tells us he's putting all his eggs in the labor union basket, we more-sophisticated listeners understand the utter hopelessness of his plight, and we -- unlike he -- realize that no union organizer or union-dues collector is going to put this poor guy on Easy Street. Indeed, the narrator seems to be trying to convince HIMSELF that the union will deliver him from his poverty -- but between his lines, even he doesn't seem all that convinced.

Listening to "King Harvest" never made anyone want to be a dues-paying farm laborer; to the contrary, it depicts the utter hopelessness of the low-wage laborer's plight, and the utter ineffectiveness of organized labor to remedy the deep-seated problem of poverty and dead-end work. Whatta ya know, these very same issues are currently sending protestors into the streets; these issues (labor's plight) are igniting rioting in the streets, from Seattle to Genoa. Note that statistically, labor unions are prevalent throughout the world (labor union representation rates are higher, in rich and poor countries, than they are in the U.S. -- only 9.0% of America's non-government workforce is in a union; the percentage is higher in just about every other nation on the planet). Labor unions don't solve the problems of poverty and low-value-added work. Just ask any of the millions of loyal dues-paying Mexican union members making $10 a day.

"King Harvest" tells you just that -- not through the narrator's words, but through the song's message. So pls. don't label "King Harvest" a left-wing, pro-union song.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 04:30:08 CET 2001 from (205.188.197.182)

Tommy

Brien Sez;I couldn't agree with you more about the Black Crowes at the Beacon Theatre.I saw them there at the end of September,GREAT FUCKIN' SHOW!When they did Soul Singin',the whole 1st mezzanine(where I was sitting ) was SHAKING,rocking,swaying.Seriously.I thought the floor was gonna cave in! The band that opened for them(I forget the name..I have it written down somewhere) were kinda Band-esque.They had a good harmony thing goin' on,very Greatful Dead/Band-like.And,they all had funny hats like The Band pictures circa 1968.Their stage positioning and manner were quite similiar,also.Too bad they weren't NEARLY as good a band.,,,,,,,,,,My next Beacon Theatre show will be on November 17.GEORGE CARLIN!They're filming his most recent HBO special there, LIVE!I have third row seats(thanks eBay!),so if anyone watches it that saturday night,look for me!!Heh heh.

Dr.Pepper;The restaurant is called PONTE'S.It's near Canal Street, on the West Side Highway in Manhattan.It was closed ,due to the Trade Center destruction, up until a few weeks ago.Business ,I hear, isn't doing too well cause some streets down there are still closed, making it hard to get around.The Yankees have been there though,if that means anything.Hopefully those mothers will pick things up tonight and do something good for NY!

On a closing note,has anyone picked up Michael Jackson's new cd?Any one WANT to?The new single isn't half bad!It sounds like the Michael Jackson of old(and that's a good thing).I might be biased, cause I grew up in the 80s listening to Jacko.(Even though he did disgrace Macca by buying his songs up behind his back.Then NOT agreeing to a deal to sell them back Sir Paul."It's just business, Paul."

Posted on Wed Oct 31 03:49:38 CET 2001 from (207.173.216.82)

Peter Shaw

JTull Fan--I am not at my computer and cannot access my email, but I just found your comments regarding the Republican and Democrat parties interesting. While I agree with some of the spirit of it, I would argue that both parties, more the Republicans than the Democrats, present the appearance of unity in the way that we are in a classless society in which all folks have the same opportunities. Thus, to use a fairly recent example, both parties can support welfare reform because we cannot have a welfare state for the poor--it is not the government's job to help people; they must rely upon their own initiative; etc. However, neither party seems to have a problem with creating a welfare state for the rich, as seen by once again no complaints about the multi-million dollar gift given from our tax dollars, through the Pentagon, to McDonnell Douglas for creating some airplane. This goes on all the time, and it is welfare--why shouldn't McDonnell Douglas (note: I believe they are in former representative Gingrich's district, and during his so-called reforms, his district received the most subsidies/welfare outside the DC region of any district.) be responsible for doing its own research and development? Neither party opposes such things; they are in complete solidarity when it comes to who will possess power and wealth in this country. Divisiveness is used by both parties as they create an illusion of ideological unity. Democrats no more stand for the common person in terms of political economy beyond getting a vote, and that is as true for Republicans. Both parties keep people fearful and diverted from the issues which should matter. So we can have folks concentrating on Clinton's sexual affairs or Nixon's Watergate affairs while ignoring real crimes such as clear violations of international law; etc. Please excuse the lack of paragraphs.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 03:31:44 CET 2001 from (65.29.177.160)

Tony

I've been a long time reader of the GB but haven't really contributed to the discussions (I like to listen). A few things have peaked my inerested lately...

I am 21 and over the weekend just saw my seventh Dylan concert over the last few years- in Milwaukee- that's right Donald (incidentally I was at the Northwestern show last year too). It was an excellent show- the most songs I've ever seen him do. He seemed to really be enjoying performing-lots of guitar work- and interacted with the crowd quite a bit (in that strange way that only Bob does). I think his band sounded fantastic and they just keep getting better and better. But my question is how can I found out more info. about these guys and why hasn't anyone interviewed them or dylan recently? I'd like to know how they feel about playing with Bob...wouldn't you?

Anyway I said my age because of all the "Dylan baby" talk. I've been into dylan since I was 15- not too many kids listening to Bob Dylan in 1995 that I knew. First thing I ever saw him do was "Times Are A-Changing" on the Beatles Anthology- I was mezmerized and still am. (By the way Mr. Viney, I just purchased Street Legal last week and I love it- I think it's the background vocals on "Baby Stop Crying", same kind of stuff as Desire- same period right?)

Sorry for the rambling...Bob led me straight to The Band and this site...and since many seem to be sharing their Big Pink stories I'd like to share mine...Some friends and I took a road trip for spring break last March to the east to visit friends and see New York (and secretly to see Big Pink). We scored some tickets to a benfit concert at the Beacon Theater... Levon on drums!... Keith Richards, Jackson Browne, Keb Mo', Dr. John, Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, Kim Wilson, etc. etc. Great surprise- totally made our trip seeing Levon up there smiling and happy to be alive!

On to Big Pink the next day... got lost and didn't find it until it got dark...but there were two candles burning in the windows- we were all pretty touched and quiet... Next stop was Canada and we eventually made it to Stratford...Richard's grave...It was tough to find but with help of some friendly Canadian cemetery workers we found it. Unfortunately, the snow had been so bad out east in March that the grave was covered with a thick layer of ice (I guess this means I'll just have to go back). It was a pretty big deal for me because Richard is such an inspiration. There's so much emotion and humanity in that man's music- in all The Band's music...Anyway, it was a great trip and we got to 'see' 2/5 of the band- more than we expected.

So don't count us youngsters out just yet I'll always preach the word to my generation Thanks for listening

Posted on Wed Oct 31 02:28:22 CET 2001 from (146.178.26.8)

Michael

JTULL fan, I'm someone else who likes Street Legal, Senor is great song, my son gave me a Dylan greatest hits CD recently that includes Changing of the Guard, also a great song, it feels good when your 20yr old son (who is a Dylan/Band fan)thinks his old man has reasonable taste in music. Rgds

Posted on Wed Oct 31 02:09:18 CET 2001 from (158.252.112.206)

Susan

Hank thinks that "King Harvest" is a pro-trade-union song. I don't agree. I think the song is deeply ambigious about the ability of a union to do anything for the individual farmer who is the narrator. The farmer sings words of hope and trust, but the music denies them, and the singer's tone is one of desperate hope rather than confidence.

With a title like "King Harvest" I'm set to hear a celebratory song, with cornicopias and people stacking sheaves of grain. Instead we get a low, almost monotone opening phrase. Corn is in the fields, but the wind through the rice hisses in an ominous manner. The song ends with a guitar solo that stings; no celebration, not even a blusey wail of resignation. Instead, it fades out on a solo of clipped, stinging notes; no resolution, no end, no change.

In between, the farmer sings his disasters and his forlorn hope in the 'man with paper and pen'. Although he's a farmer, there's something of an urban flavor; skid row is not rural, and going on strike is more of an industrial union tactic that that of an organization of owner-operator farmers. The Band must have been familiar with unions through the musician's union. I don't know what it was like in Toronto, but around here it's pretty much useless. In the 60s they did nothing to defend contracts for local rock groups and spent more time fighting over work dues than anything else. I don't know much about the history of farmer unions, but they must have had minimal effect on any individual farmer, however much they were able to do politically. Given what I know of the backgrounds of the guys I doubt any of them had much experiece of a successful industrial union.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 01:57:26 CET 2001 from (64.65.132.46)

The Count

Donald, Just saw your post and had to laugh - My son knows and sings many Dylan-Band songs - and he's not even three yet - Young but Daily Growin ! !

Posted on Wed Oct 31 01:51:57 CET 2001 from (64.65.132.46)

The Count

Calvin - had to reply to your post and give another view - regarding post Band careers and the comments in the Robbie interview - is it that Robbie's albums sold more or were promoted by THE MACHINE ? obviously the companies and people Robbie work with and for nowadays are THE MACHINE - please don't overlook this very important element in Pop Music culture today - the majority of people that buy music today BUY WHAT THEY ARE TOLD TO. Im sure if Rick and Levon Richard and Garth all played THE GAME the way Robbie has played it at every turn in his life - they would be in the lap of luxury as well . . . hmmm maybe thats why Robbie's looking for something real with "Redboy" - too bad it's overproduced and overtrendy - just a thought PS - Heres a link to our sight - improv jams - nothin too special but pretty psychedelic stuff and some funk too - enjoy !

Posted on Wed Oct 31 01:26:37 CET 2001 from (205.188.198.151)

JTull Fan

I heard a fascinating segmment on National Public Radio's All things Considered on the way home tonight. It is about the creation of music publisher BMI after a radio battle with ASCAP 60 years ago. Part of the premise is that the creation of rival BMI led to the eventual freedom for the creation of Rock and Roll, etc. etc. Go to the link and scroll to the bottom of the page. there should be a way to stream the portion of the program.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 01:10:05 CET 2001 from (206.187.219.40)

Alice

Hi. Any Van Morrison "Into The Mystic" Fans out there??? Listen people ( as Peter Noone of the Herman's Hermits sang- ah the nostalgia-- beau--there have been pointed threats today. Need your help. Amour. LE.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 00:38:14 CET 2001 from (195.82.121.167)

Peter Viney

Street Legal: "Live at Budokan" is of course not the best recorded version of this line-up. The honour goes to the boot "Picnic At Blackbushe" with Eric Clapton sitting in. But if Bob didn't put out the wrong tracks and wrong versions, he wouldn't be Bob and we wouldn't buy bootlegs.

Interesting evening watching 'West Side Story' with British actors failing to do American accents. Audience comments were loud, and included "Oooh, look, they're in the bed" and during "I Feel Pretty" - "This is called I Feel pretty - it's very famous.' But the score holds up. I was left wondering, did the original film cast ever get their just financial desserts on the OST album? One of the best sellers of all time, but Richard Beymer hardly became a household name. Russ Tamblyn was not a megastar. My guess is they didn't , I might be wrong and they all retired on the proceeds.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 00:22:02 CET 2001 from (64.12.103.156)

Paul DiGuglielmo

My first experience with the Band was Up On Crippled Creek, still to this day, my favorite song by the group. Ihave all of the remasters, except for Islands, which my local Borders were out of. Waiting now for The Last Waltz cd remaster, and the dvd. I think this website is awesome, and I come here often. What is everyones opinion of the new Dylan album? I think it's fantastic. Same with Elton's new album, which I saw mentioned in an earlier post. Well, time to listen to Disc 2 of the remastered Rock Of Ages.

Posted on Wed Oct 31 00:14:46 CET 2001 from (202.239.129.43)

Fred

RE: Listening to The Band lately...This past Sunday, while waiting for my wife and daughter (we were coming from different parts of town and were to meet at a local park) I foolishly brought only one CD with me (STAGE FRIGHT) figuring we'd meet on time. Needless to say they were almost two hours late. I now feel confident on mounting a touring production of what I'd like to call STAGE FRIGHTMANIA..coming soon to a town near you!! If it were physically possible to play a CD inside out upside down and backwards, I did it on Sunday afternoon! The funny thing is though, I really didn't tire of listening to it, although I'm sure a lot of people in the vicinity tired of me "singing" aloud ( I put singing in quotation marks because I really don't think you could label my vocal abilities as singing... Our Gang's Alfalfa's warbling is more like it!)

Bob Who?!?!?!?!

Posted on Tue Oct 30 22:51:20 CET 2001 from (206.77.150.207)

pehr

Band or related music I've been listeng to... I am in love with the remastered NLSC and listen to it all the time, along with Rick and Garth's records. Been on an "urban" harmonica kick lately listening to alot of Butter, most particularly East/West, the Debut Album. waiting to replace my long worn out copy of "The Ressurection of Pigboy Crabshaw. Just a tad distant from the Band's circle I've really enjoyed the Link Wray Norton box, and picked up more harp music with a Knockout 3 cd collection of Dr. Feelgood a&b sides and rarities. Some great Blues/Ska grooves with some pissed off harmonica by the late great Lee Brilleaux. BTW anyone have a copy of Feelgood's cover of "Java Blues?" please e mail me if you do.

I've stayed out of the politics cause I promised myself I would. For this I deserve extra credit here, I believe...

Posted on Tue Oct 30 21:13:38 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

Brent: Which track(s) does Amy Helm sing on on the new Mercury Rev cd??

There was a brief moment during the PBS series last night where Robbie and Keith Richards were talking about Robert Johnson. Great show, but not enough of those moments.

Posted on Tue Oct 30 20:31:19 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Welcome back Mr. Joseph. Any significance to the fact that your return coincides with the Halloween eve? All kidding aside, I enjoyed reading the comments about Dylan.

The new issue of Rolling Stone features a rare, fairly long interview with Dylan. The ever-so-guarded Bobster, as always, is unwilling to reveal little about his private life, but he does talk at length about the changes he's made recently in his approach to music that seem to have revived his career.

On the subject of classic organ/piano combos -- During the early to mid '70s the Allman Brothers Band featured the talented Chuck Leavell on piano, in addition to Greg Allman on Hammond & electric piano. In late 1972, following the devasting losses of both Duane Allman and Berry Oakley, the Borthers realized that although they could try to carry on with another bassist, there was no way, at that point, that they could try to add another guitarist. So they added Lamar Williams on bass and Mr. Leavell on piano. Mr. Leavell proved very adept at playing melodic up-tempo piano runs that melded with Dickie Betts' soaring guitar lines. It was this ABB line-up that played at Watkins Glenn in the summer of 1973 with the Grateful Dead and The Band. By 1976, a series of controversies would tear the Allman Brothers Band apart, and the Allman, Betts, Trucks, Jaimoe, Williams & Leavell line-up was no more.

Posted on Tue Oct 30 18:22:14 CET 2001 from (64.23.165.18)

JTULL FAN

Peter V: Great to hear somebody besides me likes Street Legal. Senor is just an amazingly hipnotic song. Hank: I loved your post and couldn't agree more. I don't see the Bands' music as conservative or liberal; its best songs paint a picture for the listener to interpret. Don't Wait on Jubilation is a great example of this. 'Your country needs you, boy don't wait'. Is Charlie Hawker walking away from a duty to country, ie Vietnam, or is he reluctantly going off to war in October 2001 or February 1861? You never really know but the inner turmoil going on in the song just draws me in. I hate the left-wing/right-wing labels which seem propogated by the media. Any thinking person makes decisions based upon the issue at hand, not whether they fall into some neat little category.

Posted on Tue Oct 30 18:17:07 CET 2001 from (152.163.207.71)

Brien Sz

The song is Thorn in my Pride..., sorry oversight - must have been thinking about my recent back pains

Posted on Tue Oct 30 17:56:29 CET 2001 from (152.163.195.177)

bob wigo

Who needs all those firemen and police officers ? Donald Joseph you are the true definition of the word "hero". All hail the great one. Even you Patch and Zimmy. Uninformed commoners step aside.

Posted on Tue Oct 30 17:24:44 CET 2001 from (159.105.102.6)

John Cass

Great organ and piano tandem how about Billy Preston and Chris Stainton on a number of Joe Cocker's recordings on his Organic album.

I saw David Maxwell play with the Barnburners at the Iron Horse in Northampton Mass. I don't know much about Maxwell but I bought his CD he was selling and I hear from some he has played with some greats. Any GBer know any more info on Maxwell??

Posted on Tue Oct 30 16:40:16 CET 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

Listening to The Band:my wife was in MediaPlay over the weekend, she bought the new Elton John album for our oldest son, it's getting great reviews. Anyway, as she entered the store, she was shocked to hear Get Up Jake playing. She was just in time to hear Brown Album bonus tracks. That particular song has long been a favorite in our house, as our youngest is named Jake.

Posted on Tue Oct 30 16:38:07 CET 2001 from (208.62.145.230)

Darleen Randall

I've enjoyed The Band since I was a kid and would love to see them in concert. I notice that The Band seems to prefer the northeast. Please come visit us in Florida. The House of Blues in Orlando is a great venue and I know they could fill and rock the place (there are other places down here too!) Take a break from the cold north and come warm your bodies down here - PLEASE! Darleen

Posted on Tue Oct 30 16:30:32 CET 2001 from (212.238.41.164)

Ragtime

Well, since Donald Joseph returned to our beloved albeit moderated guestbook - you let him out of the trunk of your car for a while, Lil? - I thought maybe I could add my two cents worth as well to his thesis that was confirmed by our idol Patch recently. That is, if the Nordic Nobel Committee of Guestbook Moderators allows me to do so.

What was I saying... er... yes... Initially The Band was never meant to be the name of the group, right? The Big Pink record sleeve simply says "The Band" as an announcement of the names that are to follow. Anyway, we all know that it turned out to be a brilliant name for "the band to end all bands". Either it is a superior - not to say arrogant - attitude to call yourself "THE" Band, or it is an exquisite token of simplicity - not to say utmost humbleness ;-).

Posted on Tue Oct 30 16:27:30 CET 2001 from (152.163.207.62)

Brien Sz

If you wanna see a good ol fashion jam - throw back, old school, guitar driven rock-n-roll show, then catch the Black Crowes. I saw them last night with my brother at the Beacon Theatre in NYC. WOW can this guys crank it and get the feet moving. Though they played a lot of numbers from some of their less successful ventures, they would go off into absolute jamzzzzzz. A two plus hour show that never stopped. When they kicked into Soul Singer (off their latest) after a ten minute forray into Thorn in my Side, the place jumped like a gospel church in full rapture. It was amazing.

I love feeling Corporatized. In fact, I think i'll get naked and swim in my money room right now. Only drawback, it's full of ones.

Posted on Tue Oct 30 16:10:18 CET 2001 from (216.173.165.115)

Brent

I have been enjoying the new Mercury Rev album "All Is Dream"- Amy Helm contributes backing vocals and Professor Louie did some of the recording. Most excellent!

Posted on Tue Oct 30 15:21:39 CET 2001 from (195.82.121.35)

Peter Viney

Donald J- Welcome back! On his tour last year, Dylan insisted that a proportion of seats at college gigs be sold to students – my son saw him at Northwestern in your approximate neck of the woods. It was a deliberate policy to get college kids along (and I think they had a special rate too). Dylan was also quoted as saying he didn’t want to see the regular faces in the front row. Now my kids were brought up to The Band and Dylan, and his early childhood coincided with “Live at Budokan” (which I actually like, but then I love the Street Legal band sound, the second best band he ever had) and the kids used to dance around to the reggae inflected stuff. However, he didn’t develop a taste for Dylan, but did go along to the Evanston show and thoroughly enjoyed it. He said he was surprised how many songs he recognised once they started. I think Dylan’s policy is wise.

On listening, I’m still not getting The Band on the CD player, but this is due to a small pile of excellent Van boots that are dominating things between replaying Leonard Cohen’s “Alexandra Leaving” once an hour. Then repeating it. And again …

Posted on Tue Oct 30 14:46:25 CET 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Piano/organ combos: call me undereducated, but I can't think of many - usually one person does double duty (overdubs) on record, and they leave out one or the other part on stage. The only other one (besides JTull's mystery band) I could think of was Bittan/Federici from the E Street Band, definitely not in the ranks of Hudson/Manuel (OK, Federici's pretty good, but Bittan has an irritating habit of playing those damn arpeggios all the time - what is this, conservatory school?) Aretha Franklin and Billy Preston team up on "Live at the Fillmore" but that was a one-shot deal, not a permanent arrangement.

Donald Joseph: I think it's great that a new generation can discover Dylan and any other rock music for themselves. My parents, although of the Baby boom generation, never rocked harder than the Lettermen, and I had lots of thrills playing "Like a Rolling Stone" in my bedroom over their "what is this s***" objections.

Posted on Tue Oct 30 13:41:23 CET 2001 from (193.203.148.91)

Hank

Right Wing Left Wing...you need both Wings To Fly.......Paul McCartney and Wings......wot kinda Wings were they?...........Pot Smokin 'Give Ireland back to the Irish' SIR Paul MBE.....

Speaking of Sir Paulie.......I heard 'Paperback Writer' t'other day and couldn't help think of The Band in the way that Paul attacks the bass amongst other things..........1966....I wonder did Paul notice the way Danko played with Dylan in 1966....or was Paperback Writer before or AFTER Dyaln came thru London.....it doesn't really matter, I guess......I just kinda got a vibe of The Band off this Beatles tune......Call me a 'Right veering to the Left' winger.....although I played front row in the rugby scrum in school

Right Wing Left Wing....such redundant terms these days, eh?.........what exactly do they mean? Were The Band 'Right' wing or 'Left' wing?............Hmmmnnnn, lets see.......

'King Harvest'.....Yes, Yes....obvious PRO-Trade Union sentiments there.....they musta been raving left wing commie pinkos!!!!!!

Ah, but hold on........'Twilight'....'A Young Man serves his country and an Old Man guards the home'?........Obviously right wing Pro-Vietnam War feeling there........This is not to mention that they reacted against the oedipal tendancies of The Doors and other Freak Bands of the time and Richard used to say 'Spend it All!!!!'......and Albert Grossman managed them. Raving Capitalist Money Grabbing Muso Posers, eh?

So there ya go folks, .......pick a Band song and dissect it to determine whether The Band were 'Right' wing or 'Left' wing...........

Posted on Tue Oct 30 06:56:23 CET 2001 from (24.4.255.48)

Donald Joseph

Having been away a long time, I spent tonight getting caught up on the guestbook. Re the circa-1968 article by Glover posted in July, I note Patch said, at the time Big Pink came out, that the name of the group was the individual members' "Christian names," and "the band" was NOT their name -- it was just a label for categorization in record store bins. A few years ago I posited precisely this in the Guestbook: I'd always interpreted the Big Pink LP cover graphics and disc label thusly (to be crediting the record to the five named men, not to some outfit called "The Band"). Thanks, Patch, for validating me. Those of you who may have disagreed with me when I made this point in the Guestbook should lie low.

I caught Zimmie last night in Milwaukee. It was a fantastic show -- and went on for 21 songs over 2 hrs. 15 min.! His band (and yes, he's billed as "Bob Dylan and his band") has really gotten good, although Augie's organ is misssed by Band-trained ears.

As this is a Band, not Zimmie, site, I won't review the show, but the Desolation Row was incredible: acoustic instruments, but an incredible drum beat by David Kemper made it so funky I can't put it into words.

Herewith a couple of Band insights/thoughts from last night: Zimmie did a great electric "All Along the Watchtower." We all know that after Jimi ("Drowned-in His-Own -Barf") Hendrix electrified this John Wesley Harding cut, Zimmie's used the tune as a guitar showpiece ever since (spotlighting Patch in '74). Yeah, we all know that. Here's my insight/thesis: In a way similar to the post-Hendrix "Watchtower" transition, The Last Waltz not only elevated "I Shall Be Released" into an anthem socially, but it oddly morphed "I Shall Be Released" into a choral sing-along, musically. Last night Zimmy rarely let Larry Campbell & Charlie Sexton (his two sideman guitarists) sing on any songs. But when Zimmy did a wonderful "I Shall Be Released," Campbell & Sexton not only sang, they contributed Band-like harmonies (coming it just ahead of or behind Zimmy's lead voice, almost like on "The Weight" chorus). My thesis: After The Last Waltz's guests-&-all encore, "I Shall Be Released" now almost cries out for group singing, just as "Watchtower," post-Jimi, cries out for in-your-face electric guitar. (This is ironic, as to "I Shall Be Released," given the solitary nature of the imprisoned-narrator lyrics. It's a lonely "I" who sees "my life come shining," but that "I" -- although in the singular grammatically and semantically -- is now always in the first person plural, VOCALLY.)

Another Band-related observation from last night: Before the show, some dude announced from the stage that no cameras were allowed, and if anyone were caught with a camera, security would confiscate the batteries. The dude announced this was Zimmie's own order. I casually remarked to the guy next to me that I actually believed that, because Zimmie is notoriously camera-averse -- witness his attempt during Last Waltz filming to have his flunkies pull Scorceses's cameras away during Zimmie's TLW set. The guy next to me asked me: "Whadda ya mean?" To my puzzled look, he apologetically said "Uh, I'm a Dylan baby [sic -- his term]. I just found out about him a few weeks ago, and I've only heard a few of his songs. But I'm sure I'm going to get turned on tonight!" I then turned to a girl on the other side of me -- she seemed not to be able to name a single Zimmie song; she, too, was reserving her opinion of Bob for the show.

Exsqueeze me -- being at a Zimmie show and not knowing anything about His Bobness? Yeah, these kids are young, new generation, blah, blah, blah. But where were their PARENTS? Didn't they meet their parental obligation to socialize these urchins?

I've got 3 kids, ages 10, 8, & 5. My brood not only know all about Zimmie, TLW, etc., but they could identify John Lee Hooker and Tom Waits album covers before they could speak full sentences, let alone read.

At least, in rearing my children, I've got MY priorities straight. More than I can say for the parents of this new generation of "Dylan babies."

Posted on Tue Oct 30 06:08:27 CET 2001 from (152.163.201.72)

Pac

For those who get PBS in the States, there's a new "roots of music" 4-part series airing tonight and subsequent Mondays. Also, did anyone catch the Sheryl Crow/Pat Benetar duet on the "Girls with Guitars" special? The whole show was powerfully HOT and and tender as soft rain, especially when the lead singer from the Dixie Chicks led everyone through an acoustic version of "Take It to the Limit." Again, Happy Halloween to all.

Posted on Tue Oct 30 04:39:36 CET 2001 from (64.64.94.194)

Charlie Young

Robbie Robertson turned up as one of the commentators about Robert Johnson on the PBS "American Roots Music" documentary tonight. He reportedly contributed some words in at least one of the remaining three hours of the program as well...

Posted on Mon Oct 29 23:34:28 CET 2001 from (198.133.100.130)

Karma Singe

Do any other band memebers hate Robbie besides Levon? What was Richard Manuel's relationship with him like? And what about Danko? Is there a book that tells honestly about these things? -Karma

Posted on Mon Oct 29 23:02:24 CET 2001 from (24.95.189.36)

Dr Pepper

Hey Tommy from Brooklyn: You KNOW we are all wondering. What restaurant IS IT? Clemons, El Duque, and Mussina - all primed for 3 in a row! After that The World Champion New York Yankees will take 1 out of the next two (or as I like to call them - The World Champion New York Yankees).

Posted on Mon Oct 29 21:38:47 CET 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

It is getting very easy to read the GB these days. Just scroll past the political threads, read the musical ones, and sadly it becomes a very quick read.

By the way, Robbie Robertson will be on TV tonight as part of the American Roots Music PBS short series. I don't know how many shows there will be, but Robbie appears to be in all or most of them.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 20:17:29 CET 2001 from (216.125.170.206)

Mugs

The last Band song I listened to was "We Can Talk." I was recovering from a disappointing meeting and needed to be reminded of the occasional ludicrousness of life, so I turned to that quintessential Band passage, "Did you ever milk a cow?" "Milk a cow?" "I had a chance one day, but I was all dressed up for Sunday." Those three unique and beloved voices, one upon the other, like a strange comic strip being read aloud.

In the weeks after September 11, the only rock 'n' roll song by anyone I listened to was "Whispering Pines," over and over.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 19:49:21 CET 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

I last listened to The Band this past weekend as I played a rare promo LP sampler from "The Last Waltz", which I recently found in a used record store.

"Down From The Mountain", a music documentary co-directed by D.A. Pennebaker & co-produced by Bob Neuwirth, has just been released on DVD by Artisan Enertainment (also available on VHS). This video features the music & the artists who performed on the soundtrack of the Coen Bros. film "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" In addition to a full live concert performed last year at the famed Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, it contains behind the scenes & backstage footage of the artists as they rehearsed & prepared for their performances.

As Mr. Pennebaker has proved over the years, he is a master at getting inside someone's soul by capturing insightful moments on film, as his subjects simply go about what they do in life. I have to say that this is one of the best musical documentaries I have ever seen -- it really captures the essence of this wonderful form of roots music by lovingly laying bare the souls of the performers. The performances are intense and the stolen moments from behind the scenes reveal great artists having fun at what they do. Emmylou Harris, Gillian Welch & Dave Rawlings, the Fairfield Four, Alison Krause & Union Station and Ralph Stanley standout especially in my mind. The late John Hartford, in addition to contributing many stirring performances, acted as master of ceremonies for the concert. His amazing rendition of "Big Rock Candy Mountain" brings tears to the eyes. The way in which Mr. Pennebaker and the rest of the crew focus in to get tight shots of all the performers, capturing all their intensity, is film art at its best.

One of my favorite modern novelists is Don DeLillo. He has a very unique, often prescient, way of examining contemporary life. One of the subjects he deals with in his 1977 novel, "Players", is terrorism in Manhatten. The central characters of the book are Pammy and Lyle Winnant, who live in New York City. Pammy works in the World Trade Center as an employee for a "grief management" firm. Lyle is a stock broker at the New York Stock Exchange, who stumbles across a terrorist group planning to bomb Wall Street. In the words of Mr. DeLillo, this is how the terrorists coldly explain their motive:

"They have money. We have destruction."

Posted on Mon Oct 29 17:56:27 CET 2001 from (12.33.126.131)

John W.

Nice set yesterday by Professor Louie and the Crowmatix at the Columbus Ave. Street Fair in Manhattan. Great to see people out and having a good time on a sunny day, as we have been through so much serious stuff lately. The band had a couple of small American flags on the stage which was a nice touch. Band tunes: "Twilight" and "Ophelia". Louie was hot as usual on keyboards, and sang "Next Time You See Me", "Restless Islands", "Sailin' Away",and "Over the Edge". Miss Marie was at her bluesy, soulful best on "Look What You Done" and "Tear of the Clouds". Gary Burke was kickin' it on drums along with Jim Eppard on bass and Mike DeMicco on guitar--those guys were jammin' on "Scarlett Begonias", "Mr. Luck", and "Speeding Time". A great way to spend an early afternoon outside, and FREE too. I videotaped the show, scored the new Garth CD and then it was off to watch the JETS win.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 17:23:45 CET 2001 from (63.214.126.117)

Jeffrey Klineman

Question from an admitted newbie:

Who has possession of Big Pink now? Can it be toured? Thanks, Jeffrey

Posted on Mon Oct 29 17:10:15 CET 2001 from (64.23.165.18)

JTull Fan

And back to the music. For those who didn't check out my last 'mystery music website', it was for BB King. Today's features perhaps the only other piano/keyboard combination that comes close to Manual/Hudson in my estimation. Can you guess who they are first?

Posted on Mon Oct 29 16:28:18 CET 2001 from (209.236.161.8)

Why Can't I

Just picked up the ANGUS cd " Face the Day".... This is a very good band. They have a great Band sound. I heard that Matt Angus is a very big Band Fan, and he has always put someone from the Band on his CD...Like Levon and Garth. I hope to make it next year and see the BLACK POTATOE FEST in Clinton, NJ. I would be great to see Levon and the Barn Burners with Prof. Louie and the Crowmatix and Jim Wieder and Gurus. Have them all get on stage and kick A**.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 16:22:07 CET 2001 from (205.188.195.41)

Dave Z

I was watching the PBS special on Ella Fitzgerald last night... and during the PBS intro to the program... TLW Suite or whatever you call it was playing in the background... my kinda elevator music... the special wasn't half bad either... take care...

Posted on Mon Oct 29 14:29:42 CET 2001 from (64.23.165.18)

JTull fan

Twilight, if you reread my last post to Ben Pike, you will see that I was not sensitized to any personal attacks, but rather noted that his resorting to labels undermined any legitimate arguement he may have. In the same manner, it seems like your posts aimed at me resort to labels and bitter one liners as well. So what is your point? Do you have a positive contribution to make or do you wish to shadow me? If you detest my posts so much, why are you keeping such a detailed record of them? Are you making a 'JTull scrapbook'? If so, let me know and I would be happy to send you a few pictures of me that you could paste in it.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 10:08:58 CET 2001 from (199.224.105.110)

Diamond Lil

Thanks Richard Wall and Ed Blayzor for your posts about Saturday's show at the Woodstock Guild. I was sick and couldn't make it (damn..I missed John Sebastian too?!) That's one of the nice things about this guestbook. One always has the opportunity to read about what one has missed..and then feel even worse :-)

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 06:27:25 CET 2001 from (209.240.222.32)

Ed Blayzor

I had the great pleasure of seeing Eric Andersen Saturday night at the Woodstock Playhouse. Backed up by Garth & Maud and the great Eric Bazilian, Andersen sounded great. Played quite a few D/F/A songs and told some great and amusing stories about Rick, also mentioned that the re-release of the first D/F/A cd with the live bonus cd will be released in the states in Febuary on the Appleseed label. One of the hilights i think anyone there will agree was Garth & Maud`s version of The Breakers, Maud`s singing pretty much stole the show. As a long time Andersen fan Eric played and sang great as well.John Sebastian joined in for the second set and he and Eric did a great version of Fred Neil`s The Dolphins. The show was taped for future release by Happy & Artie Traums Homespun Tapes.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 05:05:16 CET 2001 from (63.208.83.152)

Richard Wall

Butch and all:

Last evening's Eric Andersen/Eric Bazilian/Garth & Maud Hudson performance in Woodstock was indeed one for the books. The Woodstock Guild's Tinker Street gallery was sold out, so some people had to be turned away. Fortunately, it was videotaped for release on Homespun so we'll get to share some of the highlights.

Andersen looked fit and happy as the amiable host singing his finely crafted, emotion-filled songs, and Bazilian's guitar added spontaneous sympathy. They were joined by Garth, who entered carrying three saxes, and brought his subtle keyboard and accordion flavorings to the rest of the first set. Garth's unique sounds and sax playing were as compelling last night as ever I've heard him. After intermission, the second set included Maud Hudson on vocals and African talking drums. Marilyn Crispell was brought up from the audience to join in on grand piano. I can't forget an overwhelmingly powerful rendition of Trouble in Paris. Then another surprise guest, John Sebastian, blew harp on several songs including The Dolphins by Fred Neil. Garth and Maud were left alone on stage to perform a stunning duet of The Breakers, a song from Garth's CD, The Sea To The North, featuring Eric Andersen's lyrics. The finale was Andersen's chestnut Thirsty Boots, which John Sebastian pointed out had been pivotal to his early career when he accompanied Judy Collins on her recording of the song.

All told, it was a four-hour show that no one wanted to end.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 04:17:58 CET 2001 from (63.46.57.191)

Crabgrass

U.S. GB posters and readers: remember to set your clocks back one hour this coming Sunday at 2 a.m. [This has been a public service announcement.]

Posted on Mon Oct 29 03:52:03 CET 2001 from (152.163.206.208)

Calvin

The writer probably should have phrased it differently, while Robbie is clearly the most active in the mainstream, I dont really think any of them other than Richard have ever stopped working. It's just Robbie's albums sell a heck of a lot better and he has produced several major movie soundtracks, so if your a casual listener of the Band it seems Robbie is the only active one. As for Peter's Question, I find myself listening to a lot of Band related albums of late, While the only one in my CD Changer of late is Northern Lights and Moondog Matinee(which I still cant warm up to) I find myself listening to Live from Breeze Hill, Redboy, and Clapton's No Reason to Cry a lot lately, and while there arent any Band member's involved I picked up one of Butterfield's Better Days afforts with Bobby Charles for $5.00 used today, and that is getting a spin at the moment. I ordered the Levon/Cromatix album and Rick's in Concert(His only solo release I dont have) fron Breeze Hill about 10 days ago and Im actively waiting. On politics, I agree with you JTull, its cracks me up that people believe only politicians now get involved in sex scandals, or have human frailties, heck the 2 biggest stories of the 1828 presidential election were both sex scandals, and sex scandals popped in as early as 1804 in a presidential election, but werent as front page as in 1828.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 02:38:30 CET 2001 from (63.228.41.88)

P.S. 2001

did you know that "yankee" is dutch for "john cheese." that isn't a lie. you can research and i'll be right. hey check it out-Garth's got a bio and nice album review on www.allmusic.com, only 3 stars though!

Posted on Mon Oct 29 02:36:05 CET 2001 from (204.39.227.136)

twilight

It's interesting how the "registered repubican" seems to suddenly be sensative to "personal attacks." Don't you remember using the umbrella of patriotism to tell people to f--- themselves and to go to h---? Weren't you hoping for the "campaign" in Afghansitan to heat up so you wouldn't have to fly? And then Bill and Hill made you leave the Democratic party? Why don't you just admit that when you were young, you thought it was cool to care, and now that you've been corporatized, you like your money, and you have plans that you don't want derailed by some terrorists. So just be scared, listen to Rush, and let him help you justify that you now have a brain instead of a heart.

Posted on Mon Oct 29 02:15:23 CET 2001 from (152.163.204.52)

Dave Z

Peter: I love Garth's playing on Chest Fever on Academy of Outtakes... the way that rolling quality just builds and builds... wish I'd known you didn't have that "acoustic" Van cause I could have burned you a copy a year ago... I appreciate Domino a little better after hearing the different version of lyrics... oh well... I too haven't listened to the Band much that lately but find myself listening to the Gurus, Crowmatix and DeMicco stuff all the time... I have also been enjoying the Deluxe Edition of Blind Faith with all those bonus track jams... that slow one is cool... so is Do What You Want... I think I may be going back into a Traffic phase here...

Steve: I read all your Band reviews... can't say I agree with everything... but your writing sounds good too me... anyway, I'd love to hear what you have to say about the Crowmatix tracks with Garth... and blaze that trail a bit...

Posted on Mon Oct 29 01:15:52 CET 2001 from (24.47.7.20)

Bayou Sam

Joe = your "drum" post was like breath of fresh air amongst all the political madness. I happen to be a drummer and it is exhilarating to play the drums in every aspect - soloing or not. When I was playing regularly my spotlight for the night was the classic Surfaris tune, "Wipe Out". It's alot of fun to play - and even more fun to watch people cut loose and jump around to the song. I've done some double, and triple drumming at gigs. I found it fun to do on occasion, but if everyone isn't in sync, and "reading" each other right, it can make for a frustrating night. I've done a couple of gigs with one guy where we meshed well and it was fun..... Even more fun than soloing, for me, is when I stick some little fill into a cover tune that some die-hard fan of the song later commends me on. The other blast I have is when I get a rise out of the other guys in the band. I'll sneak in some little off-beat thing and get a backwards smile from one of the guitarists. I used to drop Ringo's opening fill from "Birthday" into the middle of a song.

Joe - if can get your hands on Levon's drum video, he talks about double drumming with Randy during the 80's Band days. Also, there is a Ringo All Starr live tape with some great triple drumming between Ringo, Levon, and the great Jim Keltner........Geez, I can talk drums all day - I feel like drumming NOW. I think I will.............

Posted on Mon Oct 29 00:58:14 CET 2001 from (141.164.73.90)

Bob Wardlaw

FYI: Ray Charles is singing "America The Beautiful" during the World Series Pre-Game show tonight.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 23:42:53 CET 2001 from (63.28.242.147)

also on pbs.........

also on PBS on thursday night, a reminder of what our special forces are up against(my hats off to each and everyone of em) "Ambush in Mogadishu". Let's pray for a quick return for these folks and all others caught in the middle of this chaos.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 23:37:49 CET 2001 from (63.28.242.147)

american roots music on pbs...........

Just a reminder that the 4 part series on PBS "American Roots Music" begins monday, the 29th, tonight? Interviews with BB King, Bonnie Raitt,Keb Mo, James Cotton. Anybody out there get good reception who can tape this for a poor ole,poli-sci arm chair spud? Thanks........

Posted on Sun Oct 28 22:46:31 CET 2001 from (158.252.113.247)

Susan

The last Band song I listened to was "I Don't Want To Hang Up My Rock and Roll Shoes" on the outtakes disk of the Rock of Ages reissues. I took the whole disk on a walk yesterday through the autumnal residiential streets and while watching geese on the retention pond. Today I listened to most of the Hawks and Bob on disk one of the new A Tree With Roots basement collection while planting bulbs. I have to say that's a better fit for an autumnal mood than Rock of Ages. Tomorrow I'll give the brown album a spin on my evening walk.

I get enough political discussion at work, so I don't look for it on the web. It's an interesting way to get to know other posters. I used to be a union steward, and I still take worker issues into account when I vote, when there actually seems to be a difference between the candidates. I find the ambiguity of "King Harvest" fascinating.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 21:35:49 CET 2001 from (64.12.103.152)

PacWOman

Hi everyone! Just checked up on the guestbook for the first time in months and am thrilled to contribute the true secret of why old record players had 16 rpm. When I was a kid, my friend and I made the coolest Haunted House in her basement. For sound effects we put the B side of a 45, "Set My Heart At Ease," on 16 speed. I can still hear the moaning and groaning, with deep echoes of a bass drum. Happy Halloween to all!

Posted on Sun Oct 28 20:00:10 CET 2001 from (66.19.125.133)

Chris

Tommy - That's right you did. Sorry I didn't pick up on it sooner..."My retrievable memory is not what it should be."

Peter - Funny you should mention that...

This morning I put on Rock of Ages for the first time in a long time. I was immediately thrown by Richard's piano. The mix on the disk is really off. Don't notice it as much on the disk player which seems to patch or fix some of the problems. But put it on the computer and it gets really digital and clearly mixed wrong. On a positve note Richard's piano is upfront and leading the charge. "Don't Do It" killed me. Three times before I could go on to King Harvest. The vocals are low as well. Strange...time to buy the reissue.

Thanks for the link to the Levon clip with him playing mandolin and doing "Don't Ya Tell Henry". Wonderful to hear his voice raised in song. Levon should know that I, and I'm sure many others, would love to sit quietly and hear he, Garth, and Chris O'Leary work through an acoustic set. I would hold my breath to hear Levon better if he would share an acoustic version of "Don't Wait" with us.

Robbie is featured in Acoustic Guitar magazine this month. It's a nice interview. Brief but still interesting. I'm irritated by the fact that the writer fails to mention the reunited Band and their work, or the fact that Garth just released a new album. It is a guitar magazine, and I wouldn't be bothered, but the article addresses the deaths of Rick and Richard, Levon's health, and mentions Garth. Then goes on to claim that Robbie has been the most active after the break up. I don't blame Robbie for the writings of some buffoon. It just would have been a good place to say the name of Levon's new group and the title of the newly released Garth album. Proving that the boys are as active and important as ever. It does mention the reissues and the "bothched" boxed set.

Jeff - There is a wonderful "Dynasty" marathon weekend on TNN. I'm taping so I'll be able to go back and watch the best parts over and over.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 19:26:03 CET 2001 from (64.12.102.168)

Rick S.

I heard a great live version of Rick Danko and Prof. Louie singing "Twilight" at WFUV-FM (Fordham University) radio station, New York City. The song is included in "City Folk Live IV" CD which can be obtained by becoming a member of WFUV (for this membership cost is $75.) You can order online at WFUV.ORG or you can call 718-365-8111.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 18:54:34 CET 2001 from (166.90.65.142)

Pat Brennan

There is a new RR interview available from some radio show. He repeated his "The South will rise again story" that's on the classic album DVD, but he no longer credits Levon's father for the line. Rather, he just says "someone" told him. And--in answer to the esteemed Peter Viney-- I listened to and watched the whole classic album DVD yesterday.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 15:58:39 CET 2001 from (152.163.207.208)

JTull Fan

Ben Pike: Thank you for your response. I applaud your interest in politics. However, I do not appreciate your labeling me as a 'right winger'. Resorting to labels reduces the effectiveness of your argument and I for one will refrain from labeling you. Rather, I invite you to elaborate upon your political beliefs and how you arrived at them. By your ongoing posts out here, it seems you are consumed by the Clinton scandals, among others. Are you a capital 'D' Democrat or merely a Clintonian? The scandals you constantly alude to are in the past; I do not see how dwelling on them will have a positive influence on the 2002 and 2004 elections for either party. Bitter political scandals, genuine and fabricated, date back to Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton in this country; their ongoing presence should neither surprise you nor deter you from concentrating on debating the true issues of the day. Therefore, what are YOUR issues? If you are indeed a devout Democrat, then who do you see as your strong presidential contenders for 2004 and why? I also reiterate my claim that the democratic party resorts to the politics of devisiveness moreso than any others, although I regret elements of the Republicans partake in this as well. The fact that with the exception of Hispanics, most minorites flock to the Democratic party is proof, rather than a refutation of this. Self-appointed leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are constantly creating 'wedge' issues with which to maintain their Democratic power base. In turn, what do African-Americans get from their Democratic allegiance? Nothing, because they are taken for granted by party leaders!If they split their votes, suddenly BOTH parties would pay real and genuine attention to the interests of African-Americans simialr to that of the Hispanic voting block, which splits between both political parties. Again, I invite you to partake in a polite discussion of issues without resorting to name-calling and trite labels.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 14:29:25 CET 2001 from (205.188.197.162)

butch

anyone go to the Garth/Bazillian show last night ?

please report in, soon,,,,

those of us that wanted to, but couldnt go,,,are VERY INTERESTED,,,

im sure i missed an "unmissible" night,,,dammitt,,,,

Posted on Sun Oct 28 09:34:35 CET 2001 from (152.163.206.183)

Tommy

Chris;I gave everyone the "heads up" about the Oysterhead album like three weeks ago.Pay attention, brother!;)

For the Yankee fans out there;My mom knows a restaurant owner in the city(Manhattan to everyone outside on NY).The Yankees ALWAYS eat at his place, and he occasionally gets my mom signed baseballs, tickets to games, etc.This week, he got her TWO signed balls(HEY!No jokes!This is my MOM we're talking about!!!)One personalized to her from Derek Jeter, and one from her FAVORITE Yankee player,Bernie Williams.If that didn't make her happy enough, she also was given TWO TICKETS TO WEDNESDAY NIGHT'S GAME at Yankee Stadium.BOX SEATS!!!(Since I dont drive, my brother is going with her..he's gotta drive her there..so I'm OUSTED!(((sigh))))

Not bad for a Yankee fan.Now she can hoot and howl at a real game instead of doing in front of the TV, alone, like a maniac.

Have a good sunday, folks.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 08:30:41 CET 2001 from (216.126.111.14)

Jimbo

Canada's/the world's best BAND. I'm stunned by the last few year. Long live the LP. That's the way the engineer wants it. Audio is all in the brain. Let it rain down on you.(E.C.)

Posted on Sun Oct 28 05:31:35 CET 2001 from (64.230.37.181)

brown eyed girl

I finally received today from Florida........yikes!......RENALDO AND CLARA......I can see why this film by Dylan was removed from the theatres as soon as it was shown........too long and draining (four hours)........but.......THE PERFORMANCES...........

First we see Dylan singing WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE......with whiteface, eye liner and cool hat with lovely flowers........No one can wear hats like Bob.......except his son Jakob that is.........ISIS.......very angry rendition........no guitar.......just harmonica and tight fists and waving arms.........best version of ISIS for me........."This is a song about marriage........ISIS can also can be heard on BIOGRAPH........IT AIN'T ME, BABE.......different version from what we're used to.......but it works........HURRICANE......choppy because as Dylan is singing.........African Americans are being interviewed on the street........A fine bluezzzzz number.......could it be MONEY BLUES?.........ROMANCE IN DURANGO (written with Jacques Levy)......."Hot chili peppers in the blistering sun"......This is the song that I can still remember Dylan singing in Niagara Falls, New York...........A woman in black smashes a glass against a wall and then Dylan and Rob Stoner perform a deeply felt HOUSE OF THE RISING SUN......This song was played so well......very disappointed........only one verse!!!!!!!.......ONE MORE CUP OF COFFEE........Dylan's eyes glisten which are emphasized by his whiteface make-up......He is singing like he is possessed.........this is the real thing now.........SARA and SAD EYED LADY OF THE LOWLANDS.......It's all in the lyrics.................Dylan tells it all about his wife...........The audience starts clapping as soon as they hear the beginning of TANGLED UP IN BLUE.......JUST LIKE A WOMAN (apparently about Edie Sedgwick from Warhol's clique) with Ronee Blakely and KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR.......

Baez and Dylan......sing intensely......He doesn't like her singing, huh?........The Band Guestbook's fav........Joan Baez (nothing like flaming a strong woman in a Boyz Club)...........also sings solo DIAMONDS AND RUST and Leonard Cohen's SUZANNE........This song was written about Bob......Don't kid yourself......Bob loves to be noticed.........I remember reading in Sounes biography of Dylan that no matter how nasty Bob could be towards women or his male companions........He would always deeply regret his actions upon reflection.........I guess Dylan needs some self-control then?

As far as the "acting".........The Hawk is a natural.......playing a would-be seducer named Bob Dylan.........

First time I got to hear Mick Ronson speak..........Gee a lot of you detested Bowie and his Spiders From Mars with Mick.......and yet here is Mick.....and he's not wearing make-up and having a scene with Ronnie Hawkins......Bob is the one in the film who is wearing all the make-up!!!.....

We hear ONE TOO MANY MORNINGS.......as Sara Dylan (film character of Clara the Eternal Feminine Freedom Fighter)and Sam Shepard have their scene.............

Ronee Blakely plays the film character Sara Dylan brilliantly......fighting with her tour boyfriend..........

Allen Gingsberg.......performing his poetry with/without music and he visits Jack Kerouac's grave with Dylan.........Dylan tells him that he wants his grave unmarked...........

David Blue and Jack Elliott and Roger McGuinn.........oh no.........very long hair with heavy eye liner too........just like the Rock and Roll Animal used to wear..........hmmmmm..............He performs two of his "hits".......Stoner, Neuwirth and Mick........rock out on another tune while Stoner sings............

Howard Alk interviewing Dylan: You chose to do it as an improvisation....

Dylan: How else? Life itself is improvised. We don't live life as a scripted thing. Two boxers go into the ring and they improvise. You go make love with someone and you improvise. Go to sports car races, total improvisation. It's obvious everyone was acting in that movie for dear life. Nobody was thinking of time. People were told this, this, this - the rest of it is up to you, what you say in this scene is your business, but at the same time beyond that, the only directions you have are: you're going to die in a year, or see your mother for the first time in 20 years. So far as instructions to actors go, less is more. And I made it clear to the cameraman, Paul, that it wasn't a documentary, and I told him not to shoot it like that.

Howard Alk: Would you call it a visionary documentary?

Dylan: No. "Documentary" pretends towards objective reality, this pretends to Truth.

Howard Alk: So how would you sum it all up?

Dylan: Renaldo's intense dream and his conflict with the present - that's all the movie's about.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 03:22:41 CET 2001 from (66.31.252.134)

Michelle aka seashelli

I didn't come across Acadian Driftwood til I was already into the band. However, my family is descended from the Landry family. I have read many books on Acadia and this is the only SONG I know that puts the past into view. God Bless you for this song and to awaken the young to their past. You sing the song and it hits home! Sincerely, Michelle..........descended from a couple of Acadian families

Posted on Sun Oct 28 02:29:49 CET 2001 from (168.191.210.197)

Peter Stone Brown

Joe,

Levon and Richard did play drums onstage at the same time during the '74 tour with Dylan. When Dylan played piano on "Ballad of a Thin Man," they both played drums.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 00:58:58 CEST 2001 from (152.163.197.182)

JTull Fan

Thought I would have some fun by posting some 'surprise' musical websites with each of my posts, so here is the first, and it is not Jethro Tull.

Posted on Sun Oct 28 00:47:29 CEST 2001 from (63.17.109.181)

HI

16 RPM makes my stomach turn.....it's the speed of the new GB....actually I like it better....I'm rollin' slow...

Posted on Sat Oct 27 23:09:25 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.134)

Jeff(To Joe)

One example of Richard and Levon playing drums together live is on "Mystery Train" behind Paul Butterfield at the Last Waltz.Have I EVER mentioned to anyone that I was at The Last Waltz?:)

Posted on Sat Oct 27 22:51:01 CEST 2001 from (205.188.197.184)

JTull fan

I took Northern Lights, Southern Cross with me on this past weeks business trip and enjoyed hearing it after shelving it for about a year (I go in phases with the Band and other artists)

Posted on Sat Oct 27 22:37:54 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.176)

Peter Viney

I have to say I’m finding the political discussions fascinating – particular thanks to Dave Hopkins for an insightful post which stands out among other important points. However, can I ask a question? How long is it since anyone listened to The Band here? It struck me at a Record Fair (as bootleg extravaganzas are euphemistically called) as I looked at Academy of Outtakes and Friends and Other Strangers this morning. I have both, but was sorely tempted to buy them again. They seemed a steal – both wonderful albums. I refrained, though was delighted to find Van’s demos for Moondance and Street Band instead – most of both albums solo + acoustic bass and flute.

BTW, I’m not posting any packages of mags or CDs (though I owe a few). I feel the mail offices are overburdened and overstretched and feel that we could give them a break by only posting essential items at this time. (Which means don’t ask about the Van … yet).

But it’s getting hard to even find a passing mention of The Band here. I asked one particularly well-stocked stallholder about Band items and he said ‘They fly out of my hands within ten minutes of putting them out. Every time.’ I feel I should do another article (though I am extremely busy with other stuff) just to get some traffic about the centre of our attention. Maybe a solo Robbie song. It’s about time he did something new too.

Last Band song I listened to: Wheel's on Fire, about ten days ago. This is bad!

Posted on Sat Oct 27 21:53:06 CEST 2001 from (152.163.206.192)

Ben Pike

Tull fan, let's assume your rather, shall we say, unconvential poitical oddessy is just as you said it has been.As far as Hillary's partisapation in the campaign and White House, which seems to threaten you quite a bit, it's hard to argue with what you say, in as much as it makes virtually no sense. You don't present any evidence on how the political party which is vastly more integrated than it's counterpart is deviding people, it's not a real supportable concept. It is important as a Gingrich supporter that you "Don't look back" at the "numerous scandels"; in as much as the only piece of the fifty million dollars of my money your party wasted on untalented right wing D.A.s which amounted to anything of "importance", was the revalation that Clinton doesn't like to tell the truth when asked about his extra marital sex. ("All of your best friends telephones, never cooled from the heat of your hand") Don't look back, or you will see Newt screwing around on his wife during the same period. Well, we have been here before, and admittedly this is not function of this Board. But again, on what I would like to be MY last word on the Clintons here, note how causally the right winger bad mouths The Clintons, as if assuming we were all dittoheads, then bad mouths Clinton again for being devicive. When will you stop expecting us not to notice this kind of crap?

Posted on Sat Oct 27 20:46:53 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Hillary Clinton....I like her!!! She is smart, she's got guts and she is a good mother. Hillary redefined the role of first lady....and after the last few....it needed a little redefining. Yes, her healthcare reform ended up on the floor of congress and she was (is) dogged by one scandal after another, but she has definitely come out of the Clinton Era with her own identity. Like it or not....she is the most powerful woman on the political scene. Hillary rode NYC public officials about racial profiling and violence within the police force...SO WHAT! Every major city in the U.S. has a problem with bad cops....something DOES need to be done about it. This does not mean she has no compassion or concern about the rescue workers at Ground Zero. I think females are lucky, regardless of our ages, to have a woman like Hillary Clinton to observe. We can have any career we want, we can have the highest of educations, we can raise our children, we can stand by our man if so we choose. I know there are women and girls in Afghanistan and other repressed parts of the world....that just by knowing a woman like Hillary Clinton exists....gives them some glimmer of hope.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 17:53:26 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

You know what I love about the "New" guestbook. I was able to ask a couple of touchy questions which people could have taken the wrong way and I was totally understood. I would like to thank all those who took the time to answer me with so much forethought.

Just to clarify to Nick.....I do agree with America 100% on the motives. I am in total agreement with what the Government is doing. It's funny......and yes I know it was a different time and a different war..........but I was such a "Dove" during the Vietnam war; but now I guess I would be counted as a "Hawk" against this horrid deed done to our brothers and sisters to the south of me.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 17:25:28 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.27)

calvin

Your raise a good point about the Militia JohnD. There are a lot of people who do care deeply, and fear, the American Militia movement. However those that do have had many fears quenched when a few years back one of the 2 large Militia compound in this country, and easily the most violent was sued by some of their Montana neighbors and had it taken away from them in court. It is now a park dedicated to religous and racial understanding. It had the effect the capturing of Bin Laden will have, to the people who cared it signaled closure. Also many are right McVeigh was seen as a lone nut, I think America needed to see him that way, the idea that the enemy is among us was to jarring for our psyche to accept. And your right, it's much easier to hate people who look different. Didnt see a lot of German Intermant camps in 1942 did you? As for CLinton and the cult of personality, it is just american politics. Somebody mentioned Clinton admitting he lied and getting away with it. Reagan did the same thing with Iran/Contra-got on TV and flat out admitted he lied. However both left their office 2 years later with the best popularity rating of their terms, go figure? THe Reagan administration had twice as many staffer indited(sp?) than any other administration in the history of our country, And of course CLinton's hijinks our fresh in your memory I'm sure. Yet these 2 men recently finished 3rd and 4th in a large nationwide poll as to whom the best president ever were. Deservedly so, though there agenda's were dramitically different they both had tremendous success with them. Clinton enacted more legislation in his first 100 days then any president ever, Reagan instilled a national pride that had been lacking since the early 60s. On the flip side argueably the most honest, decent man to ever sit in the oval office, James Earl Carter, was an awful president. Character doesnt make an effective president in the US, likeablity does. On a music note, and I agree it would be nice to get back to chatting about music 95% of the time on here, does anyone know what label will be releasing the new Wilco album? I know there are a few fans on here and my local stores seem somewhat clueless.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 16:53:01 CEST 2001 from (24.164.173.109)

Russman

Funny 'bout Phish..... Trey actually does Rick's "It Makes No Difference" with his solo band this past year, you hear the MP3's of it at the webpage above or http://www.nugs.net/vault/bigriver.asp?file=1409

There was also talk about a possible hookup (no pun) between a few Band members while Phish were recording 2-3 records in Bearsville Studios in Woodstock '95-'98. Maybe just rumours around town. Phish is real and a good one. Russell

Posted on Sat Oct 27 15:53:15 CEST 2001 from (24.39.118.2)

Brent

phish makes my stomach turn.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 15:15:48 CEST 2001 from (64.12.102.158)

JTull Fan

My last word on Bill and Hillary (I hope). The reason this duo evoke so much love hate in the U.S. is due to the divisiveness they purposely create. Their strategy from the beginning was to divide people along race, class, and gender lines. True, all politicians are guilty of this from time to time, but the Clintons, Ron Brown, Jesse Jackson, and James Carville perfected it to new heights. Now, I know I will catch flack for saying this, and I'm fine with that as long as it doesn't regress to 'flaming'posts. To reveal some of my past and why I say this, I was born to a pro-union household of second-generation Polish and Italian Catholic, politically active immigrants. My paternal grandfather worked for the local democratic town government and my maternal grandfather founded the local Polish-American political society. My mother still turns red if someone dares to criticize Jimmy Carter. I cast my first ballot for Mike Dukakis and Joe Lieberman (!!!!) and actually went to a Jesse Jackson rally in 1988 while working for the local chapter of Greenpeace. By 1992 I was a working for the Clinton campaign (before it was even a Clinton/Gore campaign) out of the state headquarters. My job was to train volunteers in phone skills at our phone bank, giving them talking points and how to enlist new volunteers etc. I was trusted enough to be 'pinned' by the secret service, meaning when Clinton made local campaign appearances I was permitted behind the security lines. I was one of the people assigned to link arms along the line to keep the press away when Clinton would come and shake hands with the people who showed up at the rallys. The people like me would joke that we were the ones likely to get shot if something happened. Living in CT at the time I have many memories of loitering around with Lieberman and Sen. Dodd waiting for Clinton to show up, but ignoring them because I was really interested in seeing Bill. As the campaign wore on I began to slowly become dissillusioned by the campaign. The staging and posturing took a toll on my already moderating political philosophies. I remember being disgusted at the roll Hillary was taking and the fact that many in the campaign were there only to support her agenda, etc.etc. even though she was not a candidate. I can go into this a great length, but suffice it to say by the time election day came, I elected to stay home with my girlfriend at the time than go to the campaign headquarters for the party. I still celebrated, but in a muted way. At the time I also listened to Limbaugh, but as an opponent to him. The madder he got the happier I was because it meant the Dems were doing something right. By Nov. 1994, and after numerous scandals, the Hillary healthcare plan, etc.etc., I was a registered Republican celebrating Newt Gingrich's victory. I have never looked back. Churchill was to have said if you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart, and if you are not a conservative as an adult, you have no brain. Perhaps this was a natural progression for me, but in any case, I was pushed, and the Clintons were the ones who pushed me to take the final step.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 14:31:33 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.186)

Diamond Lil

First.. let me make perfectly clear that I'm an American and proud to be one (just so some yahoo out there doesn't come back at me and accuse me of anti-american sentiment).

John: I think alot of the fear and anger we Americans are feeling right now comes from the realization that we're not as 'safe' and 'untouchable' as we thought we were. This great superpower of ours got lazy somewhere along the line, and we let down out guard. Foreign terrorists, many of whom have been living amongst us for years (very frightening), got through our not-so-secure airport security with box cutters, and used our aircraft to murder thousands of innocent people. I think as Americans, we're not only angry that this did happen..we're angry that this _could_ happen.

I certainly don't pretend to know what the answer to all of this is, but I do know that getting Bin Laden and perhaps even vaporizing the Taliban is only part of the solution. Somehow, The US needs to take care of things _here_..to make sure that some other lunatic fringe somewhere, sometime..will _never_ be able to violate us this way again.

Thanks for listening. Have a good day.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 12:01:47 CEST 2001 from (202.239.129.43)

Fred

JTULL: re: the Yankees...now I understand! It's amazing how people choose favourite sports teams (or rock bands for that matter). I've been a Detroit Red Wings fan since kindergarten when I found out my mother knew Alex Delvecchio (friends with one of his sisters). A little known sports fact (trivial to say the least): my grandmother was the one who gave the NHL Hall of famer his nickname of FATS (although there is no mention of this in the NHL Hall of Fame. Maybe I should start a campaign to get my Grandmother into the NHL Hall of Fame!!!). Music-wise I started listening to the Clash because of a girl I liked. Stopped liking her a long, long time ago but I still like the Clash, though!

In the Surprises you Get In Life Dept.: I was in the local Towers a few days ago (BIG Clearance Sale) and I came across The Rolling Stone Interviews 1967-1980 on sale for 500 yen (roughly $6). Normally a book this size, in English, in Japan costs almost $50. Can you say B-A-R-G-A-I-N...I knew that you could. So I've been reading it non stop and i must say two things: (1) Why NO Band interviews-they were the darlings of Rolling Stone at one time weren't they?!?!? (2) John Lennon, in his interview, comes across as a very bitter and screwed up man...granted it was a 1971 interview. Speaking of John Lennon...just saw a commercial on the TV..if I drink enough canned coffee I can send away for an original John Lennon sweater. Now let's see that's 110 yen per can and I need to purchase 30 cans..lucky me there's a vending machine of that particular company right near my apartment. My point...people should lay off on Paul McCartney for promoting this or that because the Estate of Mr. Lennon is raking in the dough over on this side of the Pacific with songs used in coffee commercials, car ads (Mitsubishi) and so on. Now that I've vented...I'll go on record as saying that Ringo is my favourite Beatle!!

I'm trying to convince the wife to get the in-laws to baby-sit next weekend so I can take her out to the movies for our 10th wedding anniversary..O Brother has finally reached these shores (she liked Raising Arizona). By the way I've heard that the 10th anniversary is TIN, being somewhat of a traditionalist (only when it's convenient for me that is) what kind of present am I supposed to get her...a TIN CAN of COKE/PEPSI/7UP!?!?!?!?

A Haiku

I need some coffee

A vending machine beckons

Sayonara all

Posted on Sat Oct 27 09:56:55 CEST 2001 from (64.12.106.43)

Nick

John, You ask some difficult questions.I think if America can get Ben Laden that could end it. That's what we need. But Whether or not you agree with the motive, we are helping hundreds of thousands of women get safe from wearing "Berkas" and not being allowed to be educated. Think of it as a nice looking women or just a nice women at a bar getting her face beat in...would you step in?

Posted on Sat Oct 27 08:07:18 CEST 2001 from (136.152.193.226)

Dave Hopkins

John D: I usually stay out of the political discussions here (politics is my day job, and like many I come to the GB to get *away* from work!) but yours was a very thoughtful post that raised an important question. After a few minutes of consideration, here's my provisional stab at the issue.

Obviously, while Oklahoma City was of course a tragic event, what happened on Sept. 11 was on quite another scale. I don't just mean number of casualties. First, the symbolic significance of the targets -- symbols of American military and economic strength -- make it seem as if the entire nation was attacked in a way that was not true of Oklahoma City. I dare say that while your countrymen would be no doubt shocked and saddened by, say, an attack on a government bureau in Saskatoon, the response to the coordinated flight of hijacked aircraft into the CN Tower and Parliament buildings would be on another level entirely. So it is here in the US.

Second, the use of domestic airplanes in the attacks demonstrated the ineffectiveness of US airport security against hijack attempts. A lot of people figure that it could easily have been them on those planes, and that provokes an intense emotional reaction with feelings of helplessness and violation. Again, as terrible as Oklahoma City was, it didn't hit home in the same way for people I know.

With that said, I should point out that there *was* a great deal of outrage in the immediate aftermath of Oklahoma City...and widespread shock that the perpetrators of such a crime were *not* Islamic terrorists (as had been first assumed, a conclusion drawn by many in the media who should have known better) but Americans who had violent hatred for their own government. There was a *lot* of support for cracking down on these "militia" groups (who were virtually unknown by the general public before then), and a few politicians who had apparent ties to some similar organizations lost their seats as a result. But with the capture of McVeigh and Nichols, and subsequent confession, conviction and execution of McVeigh, most people seem satisfied that the individuals responsible for the bombing were brought to justice. Had there been additional incidents in the interim, we might be conducting a "war on militias" today, but there haven't been, so the issue has faded somewhat.

Similarly, since the blame for the Sept. 11 attacks has been laid on Osama bin Laden and the Taliban government that has harbored him, there exists strong support for efforts to capture him and to bring down the current regime in Afghanistan. In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, there is understandably a lot of talk of bigger goals, such as this general "war on terrorism" which our president has apparently declared. But I think that the focus remains on bin Laden and Afghanistan -- if bin Laden is captured and the Taliban overthrown, I don't know how much support will remain over the long term for any more ambitious undertaking.

To sum up, then, I guess I don't see as much inconsistency as you do between American reactions to the two incidents. I certainly agree than it is certainly easier to demonize people of another nation than one's own, and some people will believe that bin Laden is representative of all Arabs, which is of course as ridiculous as the idea that McVeigh is representative of all Americans. I would just caution that we're still in the short-term post-attack period, when emotions are still running high, and I don't take all the tough talk seriously at this stage; it's visceral reaction to a shocking tragedy more than a reasoned set of policy preferences.. It may be difficult for people to believe at the moment, but (barring additional attacks) life will get back to normal and other issues -- such as, say, this recession we appear to be in now -- will re-emerge as well.

I hope this is worth something.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 06:58:35 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.24)

Hank

I really enjoyed reading how Bob Dylan showed up at The Bands gig in DC at The '92 inagural party for Bill Clinton......He told Levon "I wanted to be there when Arkansas took over the country"....Very cool, I thought.......

Bill is very popular here in Paddys Green Shamrock Shore for making peace (I guess) and playing golf........He's definitely the most together Pres. on TV since JFK.......I really enjoy seeing him on TV. He's something else in front of a camera.....I always enjoy his performances....he's a master.

But this business with Monica Lewinsky or Marc Rich or the (YOU name it) scandals make me laugh......

How can ANYONE believe in the guy?........

What he deals in has NOTHING to do with National Leadership......NOTHING.......He LIED to The Nation on TV and THEN he ADMITTED he lied and he got away with it.......BRILLIANT!

He and Hillary are like folks who wanna be Pop stars or Movie stars: You learn your lines and/or your licks and get a powerful PR machine to prop you up and everyone involved benefits......they provide a focus while the REAL deals are going down elsewhere......The REAL Leaders of the Nation are the firemen and firewomen and cops who rescued the injured and gave their lives to evacuate people out of Lower Manhattan on Sept. 11.........The reality is that you get called upon to lead your nation for a few moments or hours at a time.......that's what those people did and THAT'S why Hillary, with all The Whitewater Scandals and whatnot clinging to her, was booed. The REAL leaders of The USA NOW are the postal workers who STILL deliver mail despite the threat of Bio Warfare........NOT the politicos...........

Ask yourself : Who would you rather have leading you on Sept. 11? Figureheads like Bush/Clinton and their wives or A NYC Firefighter?

Posted on Sat Oct 27 06:15:02 CEST 2001 from (64.230.43.4)

brown eyed girl

"GOSPEL in the broadest sense of the term, Gospel encompasses most music made for Christian audiences ever since African Slaves were brought to America, and Negro spirituals began changing the sound of religious themed music. This includes Gospel Choirs, small vocal combos, country artists tackling religious themes, blues Gospel and modern Gospel songs -- which often incorporate pop musicianship and hooks in order to reach a wider audience."

The Gospel recordings that I have are by THE STAPLE SINGERS, YOLANDA ADAMS, AL GREEN, ARETHA FRANKLIN, DYLAN and now SHIRLEY CAESAR.

Hi and Amanda: Thank you for reminding me that it was Shirley Caesar who sang GOTTA SERVE SOMEBODY when Dylan received the Kennedy Centre medal at a ceremony in Washington, D.C. I have this evening video taped but I couldn't find the tape when I was posting. I have also seen this Gospel singer on a Gospel show on the Black Entertainment Channel......I have always appreciated the dance moves and the abandonment that these singers exhibit.....I also discovered today a great cover Shirley Caesar performs of PEOPLE GET READY.........Also when I watch the CONCERT FOR BANGLADESH.......it is Billy Preston who really catches my eye.......and of course......the elusive Dylan as always........

Donna: I have Etta James in my music collection but I didn't have this particular song.....but thanks to you.......I now have it!.....From the beginning note......Etta has me bopping away..........

JTull Fan: I don't know if you misunderstood me but all I was trying to say was that although I loved SLOW TRAIN COMING when it came out............When Dylan was in town to promote either this recording or SAVED (btw I purchased SAVED from the sale bins......and have to say that I really like one song.......WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU) at the time I didn't think I could attend his concerts because the critics were reporting that he was sermonizing at his shows........At the time......I was anti any religion.......Anyway, although I have seen Dylan perform on many occasions......I missed the opportunity of seeing Dylan in a small venue and regret it very much.............

Posted on Sat Oct 27 06:02:52 CEST 2001 from (152.163.194.197)

Dave Z

I read somewhere that the Junos take place again next in January 2002... Is Garth eligible?... I've been outta the loop for a while here... have there been any reviews lately?... I always thought it would be cool if Rolling Stone did something on Sea or JAM! (have I missed it?)... I was watching the radio music awards earlier tonight and Elton John was on... I wonder if he has listened to "The Breakers" or Little Island" and what he might think?... Maybe he's not a good choice but you know what I'm getting at...

Posted on Sat Oct 27 05:41:17 CEST 2001 from (63.46.57.62)

Crabgrass

How many bits does the average CD have in it?

Posted on Sat Oct 27 05:40:23 CEST 2001 from (206.14.153.217)

Joe

Did Levon and Richard ever play drums or other percussion at the same time in the studio or on stage? One drum kit? Two? I can imagine that they were skilled enough musicians to play anything, anywhere, anytime whether they liked it or not. Did either of them not enjoy drum soloing? Not being a drummer myself, seems like playing a drum solo is an incredibly exhilarating experience for the drummer. By the way, as a regular reader of this Guest Book, it's a pleasure to say "hey" and look forward to reading a response or two about duo "drumming". I particularly enjoy your comments about the Grateful Dead. I am, however, still trying to find out what the word "Choogle" means. I tried looking it up once without success. I've heard of "chooglin'" and, come to think of it I really don't know what that means either. Now, I'm beginning to wonder if I should keep on chooglin. Well, looking forward to some good reading. Peace to you all.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 04:39:50 CEST 2001 from (64.64.94.194)

Charlie Young

I saw an amazing concert in the lovely Blue Ridge Mountain college town of Blacksburg, Virginia last night by a versatile bunch of virtuoso musicians, the Sam Bush Band. There is a connection to The Band in Emmylou Harris, whose band Sam Bush starred in for several years. Anyway, the show started with a bluegrass mandolin take on "The Star-Spangled Banner" (especially moving as the audience gradually rose upon recognizing the tune), worked through wonderful versions of Dylan's "Girl From the North Country" and the late John Hartford's "Vamp in the Middle" before brilliant medleys of Cat Stevens' "Longer Boats" segued into a Bob Marley song and Little Feat's "Sailin' Shoes" melded with the Cream arrangement of Robert Johnson's "Crossroads." There was also lots of traditional bluegrass for the folks who came for that and some inventive, David Grisman-like jams that gave each member ample space for great solos. The group is the middle of a US tour, so catch them if you can. You won't regret it, believe me.

I like this place much more as a musical discussion community than as a political forum, but my final foray into any polical subject will be to say that it's only a matter of time before Rush Limbaugh blames his deafness on the Clintons. Did you hear the new Limbaugh joke? Neither did he...

Posted on Sat Oct 27 03:55:06 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.24)

Bayou Sam

thanks for the responses to my 16 RPM question. I'll have to hunt down one of these records just because. I've got some 10 inch records in my collection that are 33 RPM. I have this cool double 10 inch record of The Police album "Regatta de Blanc" (spelling?) - I've been thinking about putting it on eBay.

How about another format, reel-to-reel. I remember when this was the "high quality" audio format. I've got a hanful of reel tapes including Sgt Pepper, Stage Fright, The Band, and a Bill Hailey and the Comets. I have an old Gene Krupa one too. I can imagine todays CD generation trying to spool a tape through a reel machine. I need to get a really good reel-to-reel machine though. I see alot of them on eBay going for big bucks.

Hillary Clinton got booed at the Garden because alot on N.Y.er's see her as a phoney. During the election there were alot of bumper stickers on Long Island that said, "Go Home Hillary". She tried to put herself off as a real New Yorker that could relate to us. Obviously enough people bought it to elect her, but she isn't real popular downstate. She has also NOT been a friend of the police and firemen of NYC. The firefighter who came onstage at the concert and told bin Laden to "kiss my royal Irish ass", was on the radio this morning talking about that very subject. He was asked why she got booed and he said that she's a phoney New Yorker who they feel is interested only in her career and the care she is displaying now is not real.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 02:20:12 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.123)

jeff

Stomach turning ? Sounds like a weak stomach to me. Best turn on a soap or visit Disneyland.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 01:51:57 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.28)

JTull Fan

John D: You asked a legitimate question. I am not sure just how big the whacko militia movement is/was, but I have a feeling they were never as big as they were reported to be. Never popular, they were particularly loathed after Oklahoma and I have a feeling many marginal members were either turned off by it and they kind of segmented. They were never really centrally organized anyways. So McVeigh came along, pulled off this heinous act, and pretty much damaged that whole movement. I am sure there are some around and always will be, but they cannot be equated with the sophistication of Bin Laden, the reach of AL Quaeda, or the domination of the country ie. the Taliban, so the response was proportionate on ur government's behalf. That, and we were able to catch the guys (all of them, we hope but who knows) and bring them to justice.

Posted on Sat Oct 27 01:32:40 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.23)

Donna

Bashful Bill: I am looking forward to November 9'th! The Turning Point, Piermont, NY., Jim Weider & The Gurus! I hear there is going to be a huge turn out for this show! Looking forward to seeing you and Mrs Bashful, Ruby, G-Man, Donna II, and the rest of the Road Warrior gang! Perhaps, we can all extend this trip and go visit Big Pink! I been there just once, but what an experience it was!

Wishing everyone a Peaceful and Happy Weekend!

Posted on Sat Oct 27 00:36:39 CEST 2001 from (65.56.134.121)

Pat Brennan

John, I believe that there was tremendous outrage in America over the Murraugh building attack, but it was generally perceived (and i think accurately so) as the isolated action of an insane idiot--who btw was immediately caught. The WTC is seen as a wicked extension of a pattern of violence that has steadily escalated over the years. Certainly the fact that it is being promulgated by foreigners has intensified emotions, but if the WTC had been attacked in a similiar way by a militia group, I think you'd see the same result and same emotional intensity.

As an arm chair political scientist (my major, actually), I think the FBI is completely wrong in thinking it is domestic terror. Way too coincidental to have someone with all this granulated anthrax on hand and ready to go just as al Queda decides to pull of their stunt. Of course, if they or the CIA were to admit that they don't have a clue as to the perps, the American citizenry would be further angered by their sheer incompetence that has allowed all this shit to come down. Recall too all the warnings about further terrorist action a few weeks after WTC. Then suddenly there's anthrax floating through the US Mail.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 23:26:10 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

Thank you Jonathan Katz for Woodstock '79. I didn't know the tape even existed.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 23:05:31 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

I'm guessing that because "The Band"; which brought everyone here originally, is over, we tend to go into other threads. Lately it has been politics; because of the Sept. 11th situation. I do however have one last political question to my American friends on this site; which I'm having a little trouble with as a Canadian lad.

Since Sept. 11th there are thousands of Americans ready to fly almost anywhere and get the bad guys. "Smoke 'em out of their caves." "Get the evil doers." Totally understood. You can "feel" the anger filtering across the ocean. Understood.

Here's what I don't understand.

Although Oklahoma City wasn't as visually dramatic as the towers falling (and I believe the magnitude of what we saw visually has a lot to do with this war), it was devastating to many, including children. Why haven't Americans been as outraged at their fellow Americans? I know it was centered on one person and he’s now been executed; but he comes from the militia mentality. They should be easy to find. Why aren't Americans bombing the hell out of militia camps in the woods of America. I'll bet the F.B.I. knows where many of these camps are in America. These are Americans who for whatever reason want to bring the American government down. Now we are hearing that the Anthrax envelopes are probably (by the handwriting experts) being sent by an American. I'm not trying to be a smart ass here. It's a legitimate question. My wife thinks that the Anthrax thing is a little Waco payback. Perhaps it's because they are not foreigners? Maybe it’s easier to hate people of another land. I didn't pose this question to be flamed. I sincerely want to know. I thank you in advance and look forward to someone educating me on this. By the way, this came out of a discussion with a group of people one night. It’s not just me who wants to know the difference between Americans killing Americans and The Taliban doing the same thing. Thank you for your patience. This question has been bugging me for a few weeks now.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 22:35:54 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

Thanks for posting about how we can obtain the new Angus cd called Face The Day. I picked it up at Borders for only $9.99. I liked it. Nice picture of Levon on the back cover.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

Posted on Fri Oct 26 22:18:30 CEST 2001 from (65.56.136.209)

Pat Brennan

Making people's stomachs turn? Good.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 21:26:31 CEST 2001 from (63.17.112.209)

Hi

I agree with Chris about arm chair political scientists...

And yes it was Shirley Caeser one of the greatest black gospel singers who was one of the several lead singers in the Caravans in the 50's and 60's.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 21:22:50 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

OOPs-sorry, I put my old email address a couple of posts back, old habits die hard. Didn't dissuade an angry, unsigned email to me, however, from someone who took offense at my description of that long ago Eric Andersen/New Riders debacle. They also said I was a sexist, as I quoted what some boor yelled to a woman at the same event. I hope most of you took it in the spirit that I meant it, which was joining in the opening acts thread. I saw a double oppurtunity to comment, as someone had just mentioned Frampton in that thread. Over the last few years I've recieved a few emails responding to one post or another of mine, but this was the first one that was rude, and with no name.They even made the effort to find my current email address. Oh, well, just another day in guestbookland.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 20:40:55 CEST 2001 from (159.105.102.6)

John Cass

Was just thinking about the Barnburners, I am a huge fan of acoustic blues and I would love to see Levon Helm & Barnburners do two sets one acoustic with Levon playing Mandolin, who ever they have as the bass man playin stand up bass, Pat O shea playin the acoustic, dobro, national steel and Chris O leary blowin the harp. I have seen the Barnburners 10 times and too my knowleage they have never played any acoustic sets. Have any GBers seen or heard of them playin any acoustic blues. I for one used to love seeing Levon play Mandolin and he was a great harmonica player too (I am sure he can't play harp anymore cause of his throat)but I recall seeing a special on the Band and there was Jim Weider and Levon both playing acoustic guitars and they were doing a blues song it was great!!

Posted on Fri Oct 26 20:32:32 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Hi all:

I've put together a website of record reviews (at the link above), including a complete set of Capitol-era Band releases. I'd love to see what you think. Come on by.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 19:52:53 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Arm Chair Political Scientists Make My Stomach Turn.

I really like the new debut Oysterhead cd. For those of you that are not familiar with Oysterhead you can click on the web page above.

The band is my second favorite drummer of all time (do I need to tell you who is my favorite) Stuart Copeland, Les Claypool from Primus, and Trey Anastasio from Phish. They really are pretty funky and you guys might find 'em interesting.

Just for qualification...in my musician file Richard Manuel is listed as a piano player thereby eliminating him from the drum category.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 19:48:33 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

On the subject of vinyl -- A couple of new albums from artists with Band connections have been released in the LP format as well as CD. Dylan's "Love and Theft" is available as a double-LP set from Columbia. Mercury Rev's "All Is Dream" is available on thick vinyl from V2 Records. With these new song collages, the guys in this group sound like they cut their teeth on the song cycles of Van Dyke Parks. Among the supporting musicians are Amy Helm, on vocals, and Larry Packer, on violin.

Remember: Analog is grooves, while digital is just the bits.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 19:34:31 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Brown Eyed Girl: I believe it was Shirley Caesar that sang "You Gotta Serve Somebody" at the Kennedy Awards Ceremony honoring Bob Dylan. I don't know much about her, but I think she has recorded several of Dylan's songs.

Thanks John D. and John G...for the comments about Big Pink.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 18:40:41 CEST 2001 from (12.33.178.67)

twilight

Isn't it strange how we don't hear claims about "big government" and its "inneficiancy" now that our money is being spent on a war? Yes, this country was built by the people and for the people. I wonder what people would think if our hardworking firefighters and policeman asked for a raise that they well deserve for their efforts and sacrifice. My guess is the blinding loyalty would evaporate, and they would be criticized by the private sector for "taking advantage" of our present situation. It seems odd that we have all of these public servants - and what do our soldiers make for defending our country? A paltry sum compared to our bankers and corporate servants. Many public servants are probably happy with what they make and to proud to speak out about it - they certainly earn it - but it's the people that make the big bucks that seem to have the most influence on how are country operates. Can't seem to figure out why one persons time is worth so much more than anothers. Here in the Detroit area, we no longer have a Tiger Stadium for our Detroit Tigers, we have Commerica Park. Even though it was built by the people, and it was paid for by our taxes and the "extra" money Commerica Bank seems to have (from being inneficient and overcharging us)lying around, I'm fairly certain they never thought of calling it "The People's Park". You'll never guess who gets the best seats and access to the games (clue - it's not the public servants). Since Ronald Reagan taught us that all taxes are bad, there is little hope of any "redistribution of wealth." The main reason we are fighting the war is because the people who make the most money in this country can't make it hand over fist like they did before the attacks. Also, they are as vulnerable as the rest of us to this new form of war. As for the booing of Hillary - the public servants that I have been in contact with were embarrassed by the show of ill will at an event that was planned for them. Whether she deserved it or not isn't the point. Wondering how the right wing would feel if a bunch of air-traffic controllers got together and booed at an event for Ronald Reagan. It would be in poor taste then as it was last Saturday night. Of course Rush Limbaugh is gleeful about the episode with Hillary - he makes his money from advertisers that make tons of money off the people that listen to his show. Anyone who posts on this page that thinks they know "why" Hillary got booed watches too much TV.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 18:33:45 CEST 2001 from (142.179.77.53)

Cease and Desist Band

I haven't checked this book for a while. Wow - you people actually write comments on what people say in here! My band Cease and Desist http://ceaseanddesistband.com does a few 'Band" gems (my favourite parts of the night). Still hoping to meet Robbie Robertson again. Thanks for letting me post... Take care all...

Posted on Fri Oct 26 17:57:24 CEST 2001 from (205.188.197.157)

Donna

Brown Eyed Girl: I do know that Etta James, sings a powerful version of: "Gotta Serve Somebody", although I am not sure if she was the women who sang at the Kennedy awards when Dylan was honoured? If you have not yet had the opportunity to hear, Etta James CD, "Matriarch of the Blues" I will guarantee you will not be disappointed.

Laura Holt: I was so pleased to hear that you had a wonderful time in NYC! I enjoyed your post very much!

Mattk: Come back, we all miss you!

Posted on Fri Oct 26 17:38:43 CEST 2001 from (152.163.197.201)

Ben Pike

The Dems of our political spectrum are doing a fairly credible job of reinventing the concept of "the loyal opposistion" in our country, an important idea that has been debased and discarded by the petty, vindictive religious right and there jihand of fundimentalist extremists during the preceeding eight years of our political life. Of course, the corperate right wing press(like Jeff Greenfeild, who lied early and often about Al Gore during the campaign) sold the slop that had been manufactered by the nutball right, and were furious they couldn't do Clinton in with it. Those on this MB who present absurd notions to justify the kind of thuggish abuse of the Clintons we saw the other night(that darn Bill just took to much Credit!) should be reminded of what they are justifying: if you were a uniform the simple, elemetary rules of human decency don't apply to you.) And the next we have New York cops in court lying about broomhandle rapes. But lets state in baldly, when it comes to getting Clinton, all rules of simple fairplay were always thrown out the window. It is my sinsere viewpoint that this unholy alience of Journey Fan(type) diddo heads and greedy scandel press fakes like Cookie Roberts( "I approach this story as a Mother") made our courtry in every way weaker and more vunerable to attack. While the Press bade us ignore reports on terrorism, they served us Condit as warmed over Lewinsky. Of course, one element in the Sally Quinn/ Greenfield hatred of the Clintons is good old fashioned class snobbery, and older fans of Rock and Roll should understand plenty about that.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 17:32:49 CEST 2001 from (64.23.165.18)

JTULL Fan

Brown-Eyed Girl. I am a firm agnostic but also love Slow Train Coming. I am able to see the songs from Dylan's point of view at the time and can appreciate them as such. I have a close friend who is a very devout jew and his favorite Dylan album is....Slow Train Coming, which I always kid him about. On the 2000 election: I fully appreciate the disappointment Gore supporters feel. However, I think the 'stole the election' arguement has been dissproven. The roadblock accusation has never been substantiated. The butterfly ballot was approved and designed by a democrat official prior to the election, the state of FL was called for Gore prior to the closing of heavily Republican precincts in the Central Time zone area of FL, several thousand ineligable felons cast ballots illegally (overwhelmingly for Gore) and independent newspapers including the New York Times and USA Today upon reviewing the ballots this past winter concluded Bush would have won were the recounts to go through. If all the Gore people are still bitter, then give the guy some donations as he is already in New Hampshire this week, rather than rehash what has been established. If my Yankees lose 4-3 in 10 innings, it doesn't do any good to complain about how the umps called the strikes in the second inning. The rules are the rules and the game has been played out. Yes, Bush lost the popular vote, but so did Clinton in '92 in the 3-way race. The popular vote was never designed to be the deciding factor by the founding fathers.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 17:04:38 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

Back in 70 or 71, I went to a concert where Peter Frampton was the opening act. I had never heard of him at the time, but I assume he was only recently solo after Humble Pie. I recall he absolutely blew the place away, and people in the crowd were still yelling "Frampton!" on the way out of the building after the show. This may say something about the times, and my lifestyle at the time,but to this day neither the guy I went to that show with or I can remember who the headliner was. Man, I'm long in the tooth! A couple years later, in the same place and with the same companion, I saw GB favorite Eric Andersen open for the New Riders. It was sad pathetic show. Maybe 500 people showed up in a facility which holds several thousand. Eric was very drunk, stumbling and slurring, and it turned into the single worst experienceof abuse from an audience I have ever seen. He literally started crying, and a young woman climbed up on the stage, took the mike from him, and seriously berated the audience. It was the first time I ever heard the phrase "Take yer clothes off!" at a woman. The New Riders themselves also had a bad night, I left at intermission and noticed a lot of others doing the same. But on another subject-Big Pink! John D described it wonderefully-the 1st time I was there, less than 2 years ago, my wife and I tracked it down with directions from someone here in the GB, I'm sorry but I don't recall who it was. When we pulled up, I was awe-struck, just as John D was, after looking at that little picture in the album sleeve for so many years and here it was a few feet away.It must be a familiar reaction to the many who have made the trek. Mrs Bashful Bill had experienced my Band-passion for many years, and it was one of those days where I reminded myself that I'm lucky to have her.She really got off seeing me get off. A few months later my friends Rick S, Acadianruby and I went to Big Pink early one Thurday morning,with a good Barnburner buzz from the night before. Dennis had given us better directions, and this time Ruby and I got off watchin Rick get off on his first Big Pink sighting. I haven't been back since, but one of these days I hope I will.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 17:02:01 CEST 2001 from (216.173.165.115)

Brent

No Band content: Others might be interested in Alan Dershowitz's book "Supreme Injustice: How the High Court Hijacked Election 2000" and/or "Divided We Stand : How Al Gore Beat George Bush and Lost the Presidency " by Roger Simon.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 16:56:09 CEST 2001 from (166.90.65.7)

Pat Brennan

Hilary Clinton won her Senate seat rather handily. Had MSG been filled with an accurate cross-section of New Yorkers, the booing would have been much less. Interesting still was the cheering for Bill, who can be said to employing a marriage for political gain, acting as a carpetbagger by moving to NY, etc etc. The difference being....

Since we all had to listen to the benefits of Reaganomics ad nauseum, it's always fun to discover that a President really doesn't matter that much to an economy.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 16:51:39 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.156)

Calvin

You'll find John D that the vast majority of people still like Bill CLinton, in a nationwide Survey in May/June of this year he finished as the 4th best president in the history of the country. He is still extremely popular in this country. As for the person who said Bush stole the election, of course he did, but dont be naive enough to think the Dems were pulling as madny shady moves across the country. Fact is CLinton would have beaten Bush in an election, Gore simply couldnt.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 16:11:08 CEST 2001 from (152.163.201.198)

Brien Sz

Say what you want about the election - All Gore had to was win his Home state and their would be no controversy. If his own state won't vote for him..., well i could go on.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 15:46:48 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.105)

Jeff

What went wrong with the elections Steve,is that Bush stole them,literally, with road blocks for blacks and other wonderful little tricks........all in the name of Democracy of course!!!!!!

Posted on Fri Oct 26 14:51:02 CEST 2001 from (209.195.208.10)

bassmanlee

16 rpm records may have been 10-inch, but not all 10-inch records were 16 rpm. I remember 10-inch 33-rpm records in my parents collection. I don't know why some "LP's" were 10-inch, unless it was to allow storage alongside of 10-inch 78's? Were these 10-inch 33's only released by labels OTHER than Columbia, who pushed the 12-inch "Long Player"? I seem to remember seeing a few 33-rpm 7-inch as well, usually with more than one song on a side. Ooh, and colored vinyl! Early on reserved for children's records like Burl Ives singing "The Little Black Duck" and a sanitized version of "Old Blind Drunk John". Late in the LP era colored vinyl LPs were collector's items.

Another bit of record trivia...the term "album", universally applied to LP releases (and now CD's, although "disc" is increasingly supplanting it), originally came from the bound multi-disk sets of 78's required to hold a single symphony or opera. Sometimes a collection of individual releases by an artist would also be released in such a binder. I also remember seeing boxed "albums" of 45's (particularly one of Harry Belafonte, the Calypso King), probably released by RCA, promoter of that format.

The whole 33 vs. 45 battle is interesting in that the technologies involved were so simple that 3rd party manufacturers could simply make machines that played everything./n I still get a bit nostalgic if I see an old Magnavox console unit similar to the one my parents had. Actually they sounded remarkably good - probably much better than the plastic bookshelf units sold these days. On this unassuming unit I first heard or really listened to the formative music of my youth - Peter Paul & Mary, Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Dave Brubeck, Tom Leherer, later giving way to my own records of Simon & Garfunkel, The Beatles, The Airplane, and Jimi Hendrix. (OK, I'll 'fess up... The Monkees and Grand Funk Railroad, too.) The Band came later, when I had my own "stereo", a turntable plugged into a Supro tube guitar amp.

Coincidentally, by brother gave me a birthday card yesterday that said that although I might feel I'm entering "the B-side of life", "all the really cool stuff was on the B-side"! (Right Peter?) He remembers having 45 spindle adapters made of some kind of white metal that were sort of twisted into the center hole. We both recalled that they were hard to get properly aligned, and even harder to remove!

Posted on Fri Oct 26 14:26:35 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Those interested in why the Democrats didn't win in 2000 in a landslide may be interested in Jeff Greenfield's book "Oh Waiter! One Order of Crow." He gives a pretty good analysis of the 2000 campaign and what went wrong for Gore and went right for Bush. It boils down to Greenfield thinking that Gore never established an identity for himself in the voters' minds, while Bush did exactly that. A person voting for Bush had confidence that the same person they voted for would take office, while a Gore voter was mostly hoping for the best.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 13:57:31 CEST 2001 from (64.230.34.2)

brown eyed girl

Peter has mentioned Montreal, Canada's Leonard Cohen (Buddhist like Tina Turner and Richard Gere) lately.......LEONARD COHEN ON DYLAN

I loved Dylan's stuff as soon as I heard it. I was living, in a certain sense, in the same kind of universe that he was living in, so that when I heard him, I recognised his genius, but I also recognised a certain brotherhood in the work. And we have since become...acquaintances. I might even say friends. There is some kind of communion between us.

Dylan to my way of thinking, is the Picasso of song. People came to me when he put out his Christian record and said, This guy's finished - he can't speak to us anymore. I thought those were some of the most beautiful gospel songs that have ever entered the whole landscape of gospel music. When you're talking about a man like Dylan, you can never write him off. He's always going to come up with something beautiful.

A concert I let slip away because my mind was not open enough at the time was Dylan at Massey Hall in Toronto during his Christian explorations.........I really enjoyed and continue to enjoy listening to SLOW TRAIN COMING but at the time I was an Atheist and I just couldn't get past that......I always listened to this recording by inserting in my mind the love between two people instead of any God...........Now I'm probably more of an Agnostic.........My university education made me question, question, question.....................

Does anyone know the name of the gospel singer who sang GOTTA SERVE SOMEBODY who performed at the Kennedy awards where Dylan was honoured?...........Although Bruuuuuuuuuce and others sang Dylan songs that night..........It was ONLY when this singer sang...........that Dylan got up and clapped for her outstanding cover of this gospel song...........

.....You may be a construction worker working on a home
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome
You might own guns and you might even own tanks
You might be somebody's landlord, you might even own banks

..........

You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody

Posted on Fri Oct 26 13:23:41 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

I was just reading JohnG's post about Big Pink. Big Pink (The Album) came out in 68-69 and it took me 20 years to finally visit the real Big Pink

JohnG's post brought a flood of memories. The first time you drive down that very bumpy road and finally turn the corner and there it is sitting in the trees. At first; after seeing it as a picture for so many years, it's hard to believe your really there. My kids thought I was nuts. All I could do was stand there for the longest time and stare. Those were the days when the renter of the home would invite people into the "Basement."

I've visitied three times since; but the feeling of that first time I will never forget. Damn. 54 years old and I'm still passionate about The Band. Thanks God for now allowing me to grow up.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 05:33:02 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

One other note about the 16 R.P.M. speed. Lil was right. They were a 10 inch disc.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 05:28:45 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

JTULL FAN

I want to just quote you for a moment "You mentioned you do not understand why we Americans (or some of us) dislike the Clintons and then went on to infer that perhaps the whole US government can take credit for our recent prosperity."

I just re-read my post and I didn't say that I didn't understand why some people don't like the Clintons. Also my comment about the government taking credit was told to me a number of times from my American friends when I asked them (in my naivety) why the Democrats didn't get back in again with a landslide after; what appeared to be 8 great years of prosperity in the U.S. Like yourself I'm truly not being argumentative with you here......just want to clear that up and furthermore I agree whole heartedly with your post about the average American being not only the hero's but the one's who put the country on top. In other words we agree.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 05:19:35 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

Bayou Sam

I am old enough to remember 16 r.p.m. That speed was used (if my memory serves me well) for Spoken Word recordings ONLY. I don't believe music was played at that speed at all. I believe you could play.........remember this.........learning foreign language records and speeches and poetry readings etc.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 04:44:52 CEST 2001 from (64.12.102.162)

JohnG

Just came back from a visit to Big Pink...I had thought about this for years and finally made the trip........it's not easy to find at all but it was well worth it, for me anyway...somewhat spiritual and haunting all at the same time....

Posted on Fri Oct 26 03:40:58 CEST 2001 from (205.188.200.21)

Brien Sz

Hillary Clinton is a Carpetbagger - She could care less about NY (before 9-11, i won't short change her on that)NY is money, power and prestige - When there were too many Kennedy's in Mass. RK skipped over to NY for the same reason.

As for Bubba, well, i will always admire his passion for the office and he was able to accomplish some goals amidst all the scandal BUT 266 Americans and or personnel of American embassies perished as well as 6,239 folks injured due to terroism under his presidency. All these victims were from acts linked to bin Laden (WTC bombing 1st time, USS Cole, bombing of US military in Saudi Arabia, Embassy bombing in Africa)Yet Clinton spent more money trying to bring down a software maker who killed no one than a terrorist who wound up adding a few thousand more notches to his belt.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 02:50:26 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.81)

Diamond Lil

Bayou Sam (hi!): I'm taking a shot in the dark here.. but I think 16rpm records were the ones larger than the 45's, yet smaller than the 33's (and much thicker as well). My Mom and Dad had several of them, and I remember them being played in a stereo console in the early 70's. Can anyone else out there tell me if these were indeed the 16rpm records that Sam asked about? Thanks.

Have a good night everyone.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 02:23:41 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.184)

JTull Fan

John D from Canada: Your post regarding Hillary & Bill triggered a thought I would like to share. This is not meant in any way to be a rebuttal to your post, merely an extension. You mentioned you do not understand why we Americans (or some of us) dislike the Clintons and then went on to infer that perhaps the whole US government can take credit for our recent prosperity. I believe it is in this that we find why Hillary got booed. The Clinton government is thought by many to take undue credit for the prosperity and wealth of the U.S. when it is WE THE PEOPLE who built this society and economy, not the government, be it Republican or Democrat. This philosophy need not be confined to the U.S. either, it is however more broadly prevalent here. Government can create a legal framework for freedom and business to prosper and a military to protect us, but it cannot CREATE ANYTHING without private initiative. Whenever any government claims to 'give' anything it is merely redistributing wealth, and usually inefficiently. This brings us to Madison Square Garden and the booing. Firemen and policemen (and women) are public servants, and therefore government employees. So: because they are an arm of government, is the government the 'hero' or are each and every individual firefighter and police officer the heroes? Of course the individuals are the heroes of 9/11! We don't even question it! So why do we credit government for the unprecedentally good economy of the 1990's? The logic is the same. I say we shouldn't credit the government. The world prospered and was (generally) peacefull in the 1990's because individuals made it so! Hillary and Bill are seen by many to take credit unto themselves for things they had nothing positive to do with. The firefighters and police officers who booed were doing so for this reason. They know who is a hero and who is a poseur. Now, this is my take on the situation and many of you may have other views. I am sincerely interested in them.

Posted on Fri Oct 26 02:16:53 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.157)

Bayou Sam

I'm enjoying all this 45 record talk. I was working in a public school in Brooklyn (Hi Tommy) last week - and among the stuff piled around the room I was in was one of those old, boxy, Califone record players that a generation of us remember from school. This is the one with the speeds 16, 33, 45, and 78rpm on it. I said to the women in charge that these are great old machines, and she said, "I'm gonna throw it out - ya wan'it" (notice that I wrote that in a Brooklyn accent) - I said "sure" ( I probably said "shuwa" in a Bronx accent), and took it home. The thing works fine. It's a cool thing to have for a record collector like myself. It even has a feature to plug a microphone into it and use it as a P.A., which must sound wonderful through the shitty little speaker that's built into it.

Now here's my question - I've always wondered - what the hell do you actually play at 16 rpm? Does anyone out there know?

Posted on Fri Oct 26 00:08:15 CEST 2001 from (63.17.112.62)

HI

Regarding Bones' comment about Cassandra Wilson covering a Band song, my guess it's a Dylan tune. In a recent interview he said he liked everything she does and wishes she covered one of his songs..

Posted on Thu Oct 25 23:35:24 CEST 2001 from (12.33.126.131)

John W.

My best Opening Act story: In 1975 when I was 16 I went with a bunch of friends to see Dave Mason at Madison Sq. Garden. We enjoyed Dave but the opening band, who we had never heard of before, really blew us away. It was Peter Frampton. As it turned out this was the tour on which they recorded the album "Frampton Comes Alive". We thought he was pretty cool, at that time. As much as The Band is my favorite actual group, and I always enjoyed seeing them together or as solo acts (never did get to see the original lineup live), I have to say I have seen 2 bands whose overall live performance was better. They are Bruce Springsteen and the E-Street Band (I think the peak was The River tour) and Santana (always a dyamite show).

Posted on Thu Oct 25 23:09:28 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

All this talk about vinyl 45s & LPs has reminded me of another unique invention from the world of audio by Peter Goldmark. In the 1950s, while working in the research department of Columbia Broadcast System, Mr. Goldmark designed a "Highway Hi Fi" record player for automobiles. Chrysler Corp. offered this "Highway Hi Fi" phonograph system as a top-of-the-line radio option on its various 1956 model cars.

If you click on the Webpage link I've typed in above you can view a way-cool photo of Lawrence Welk, behind the wheel of a '56 Dodge while grooving to the sounds of this highway turntable. Notice also that the effervescent polka-maestro is displaying his hipness by wearing a pre-grunge era flannel shirt.

The highway turntable was mounted under the dash, just above the transmission hump. The signal was boosted through a special amplifier circuit in the radio, using the radio's speaker, as well as its volume & tone controls. By pressing a button on the player's front panel, the turntable slid out for loading. It played specially designed 7" (45 size) microgroove records that spun at 16 2/3 rpm for extended (60 minutes) play per side. To try to reduce skipping, the phonograph tone arm was rigidly mounted so it only moved across the record and not up & down, while the needle pivoted.

The specially designed records, themselves, were limited to demonstration discs distributed only by the auto dealers and a few test pressings available by special order from Columbia Records. The records were pressed on extra-thick vinyl to prevent warping and extend wear.

Although these highway phonographs seemed to work okay while traveling on smooth surface roads, they were understandably plagued with minor technical & physical problems. Chrysler discontinued the option by the time its 1957 models were produced. A few years later, in 1960, Chrysler introduced another highway phono, a totally different unit manufactured by RCA. This model played ordinary 45s with a changer the allowed up to 12 records to be stacked in the player! This model was available as an option on 1960 & 1961 models before it was discontinued also. Between that time and 1968, drivers had to make do with ordinary radios, until a whole new world of car audio began with the advent of the 8-track tape player.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 22:30:11 CEST 2001 from (205.188.195.53)

JTull Fan

Fred: Sorry for my tardiness response re: 'Why the Yankees?'. The answer is simple: I grew up in the 70's in a town that had their AA minor league farm team and got to see Ron Guidry, Dave Righettie, Buck Showalter, Mike Heath, Jerry Naron, etc. in a small park from 20feet away and watch them go on to the big leagues and become stars. So my first exposure was to the Yanks and my loyalties have stayed there, and believe me, the Dave Winfield years of 1981-1995 were not easy!

Posted on Thu Oct 25 21:35:27 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Re: My last post....I listed Judy Miller as an artist on the KPIG playlist....I meant Julie Miller. She has a beautiful voice, but I have yet to purchase the new album w/ her husband. I know that it has been highly recommended here on the GB by Butch and a few others.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 20:36:11 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

I'll start off by saying that as a Canadian, I am a Bill Clinton fan. I'm not going to get into his personal life. I really don't care. I thought he was a fine President and the U.S. seemed to do very well over those past 8 years. My American friends are quick to point out to me that the President doesn't have a lot to do with that........it's the government as a whole? Whatever.

Regarding Hillary Clinton and I have no quotes to back this up. I was under the impression from some of my American buddies that the reason she was booed through her entire intro to Sienfeld was from past sins done to the NYPD; while she was the first lady. I'm not sure what they were; but it was enough to piss off the cops. On the other hand I thought Bill Clinton was received pretty well. I believe women have a problem with Mrs. Clinton........someone who cries of having a bad marriage; but stays in it for power and greed. I have no sympathy for her marital problems. She could have left a long long time ago.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 20:13:08 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

Cassandra Wilson is currently working on a new record which will have a cover of a Band song on it. Which one is anybody's guess.

Does anyone own Gene Clark's This Byrd Has Flown record?? Is Rick on it? My copy does NOT list him on there.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 18:43:24 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Does anyone listen to KPIG via the Internet? I awoke this morning to the sweet sound of Levon singing "Atlantic City"...what a way to start the day! You should check out KPIG if you haven't already. At any given hour the playlist could consist of The Band, Bob Dylan, Dave Alvin, Buddy & Judy Miller, James McMurty, J.J. Cale, John Prine, Emmylou Harris...I could on and on. Actually they just played Robbie Robertson singing "Broken Arrow." I attached the link above.

Laura: The booing actually happened at the NYC concert. I admit, that did bother me. Frankly, I can identify with the term boredom in relation to a George W. speech. He isn't exactly the most inspiring speaker. Hilary's driver running down a cop....I have no info about. Richard Gere is a Buddhist and anti-war. The Buddhist religion teaches to embrace your enemies with compassion. Buddhism also deals with karma and the positive and negative forces. I am sure he meant well and was just speaking of something he truly believes in. Unfortunately, we are in the midst of extremely difficult times and the situation is not cut and dry. I am finding that I can relate to both war and peace which is a really weird place to be.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 16:51:02 CEST 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

I think the invention of the spindle-thickening adaptors is more praise-worthy than that of the LP or 45 - or CD. Even more impessive is the little thingmy on old spindles that let you stack your records. Wasn't great for the records, but saved time. And could be fun to watch, depending on your age and mood.

As to the number of grooves in a 45, I find the answer 2 a tad facile. How 'bout scratchy records? Your average 45 by now has scratches, which surely must count as grooves.

I have a "Coronet" magazine, ca '48, which contains an ad for the new RCA 45 Record Player. It has a little drawing of an elegantly dressed woman - pearls and furs - standing in front of a nice sleek car. The caption says, "For the woman who has everything". "Oh thank you, dear!", I can imagine her exclaiming on Christmas morning.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 16:29:46 CEST 2001 from (209.166.233.21)

Jon Lyness

On November 17th, at B.B.King's Blues Club, NYC: Hubert Sumlin's 70th Birthday Jam featuring the Vivino Brothers & Levon Helm. Check it out! 237 West 42nd St (btwn 7th-8th Aves), 997-4144.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 15:16:31 CEST 2001 from (192.154.62.2)

Richard

Jan: Regarding the release of the Garth c.d., I bought a copy at my local Borders a week or so ago, so it's apparently shipping despite the label merger/change. Richard

Posted on Thu Oct 25 12:22:19 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.212)

Diamond Lil

Laura: Although I did not attend the benefit in NYC Saturday night, I know a few people who did. Hillary was indeed booed. Not so much for her obvious 'boredom' during Bush's speech, but because she has, in the past (and before 9-11) made very disbaraging remarks about the FDNY. It was kind of hypocritical to practically condemn a group of hard working, dedicated people..and then jump on the proverbial bandwagon to try and sing their praises for purposes of the media or whatever. Sad really.

I figure it must be cold season here in the guestbook..as all I hear lately is 'haiku'. Well..one big 'gezundheit' to all of you.

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 12:19:41 CEST 2001 from (63.17.108.127)

Hi

Ginsberg opened for the Band in Brooklyn. A year or two later he recorded with David Amram, Dylan etc.I believe 1972 and Maybe released much later.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 12:00:55 CEST 2001 from (207.218.208.170)

Laura Holt Lorfing

I heard some things about the benefit concert last Saturday and I'm wondering if they are true. If anyone knows more about this ...please tell. First off I heard that Mrs. Bill Clinton was booed off the stage after several attempts to give a speech. Apparently she acted like a jerk when President Bush gave a speech a while back. She was seen sitting in the front row behaving like she was bored and put out by the whole thing. I then heard that her limo driver ran down a NYC police officer somewhere near Ground Zero and kept going. The cop was fine but the newspaper apparently said Hillary was fine instead of mentioning anything about the cop. If this is the case then I'm glad she was booed! What was she doing there anyways if she behaved like that??? I was also told that Richard Gear was up on stage telling the audience that they needed to have compassion for these monsters that did this to our nation. He was apparently booed as well...if true I am glad that he was given the boot too!! What the hell is HE thinking?? He must have his head up his butt to think NYC is going to sit there and say "Well yeah Rich ..you are so right..lets all feel the love for these poor misdirected souls". Gee..I wonder if Mr. Gear had lost a loved one in that disaster would he still basicaly be saying love thy enemy??? If anyone who attended the concert can elaborate more on this then shoot me an email please. My info. might not be accurate. Now back to the music.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 07:51:25 CEST 2001 from (209.214.116.157)

BWNWITennessee

Haiku -

5 syllables
7 syllables
5 syllables

Some Guestbook posters
Only want to hear themselves
No diversity

Posted on Thu Oct 25 07:15:28 CEST 2001 from (64.230.41.153)

brown eyed girl

Can anyone tell me anything about VOMIT EXPRESS......by Dylan and Allen Gingsberg?

Drummer from PA = five syllables

Haiku is 5, 7, 5 = seven syllables

Shame shame drum away = five syllables

Posted on Thu Oct 25 05:09:32 CEST 2001 from (63.46.54.132)

Crabgrass

I would guess that the correct answer is 2 - one on each side.

Interestingly, the standard audio cassette was also invented by Phillips of the Netherlands. (I actually visited their headquarters once which I believe is in a town called Eindhoven - gave them a few tips for free.) With improvements in tape quality, stereo tracking, and Dolby processing it has enjoyed much greater longevity than initially envisioned - it's life being even further extended by the advent of the Walkman.

Anyone would look cool next to Howard Stern - purveyer of bad taste.

Posted on Thu Oct 25 04:28:47 CEST 2001 from (64.64.94.194)

Charlie Young

Speaking of 45s: what were the last words Marvin Gaye ever heard? Answer: his dad saying, "come here, son, I have a new 45 I want you to hear..."

Sorry about that--and there are more where I found that one!

Posted on Thu Oct 25 02:50:03 CEST 2001 from (198.164.200.230)

Unfaithful Servant

Opening acts:

Motorhead/Alice Cooper

Salem Witchcraft/Canned Heat

Edie Brickell/Grateful Dead

Little Feat/Grateful Dead

Steve Gibbons Band/The Who

Posted on Thu Oct 25 02:35:42 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.181)

joe frey

Hey don, went to another small town concert in NY(Watkins Glen) in the '70s. If memory serves, our boys and the Dead opened for the Allman Bros. p.s. Levon and the boys were great at the Van Dyck on Oct 22nd. Went back stage, had my wife finally meet levon and butch and she got a big hug and kiss ( I got a drum stick).Great show, exactly what I needed to get out of this NY funk. As Butch says, stay strong. joe

Posted on Wed Oct 24 23:12:05 CEST 2001 from (152.163.194.192)

Bayou Sam

Answer = two - one on each side.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 23:09:50 CEST 2001 from (152.163.194.192)

Bayou Sam

This is a silly little trick question that got me the first time I heard it =

How many grooves does the average 45 record have in it?

Posted on Wed Oct 24 22:54:34 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.152)

Tommy

wanna see how cool McCartney is, check him out on the Howard Stern show.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 22:40:41 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.176)

bob wigo

For all the folks here who expressed their interest in The Who's performance at the NYC show......you may want to check out the website above.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 20:50:05 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

The PBS series called American Roots Music is airing later this month. The huge coffee table book is already out. According to Rolling Stone, there are "interviews with legends such as BB King, Bonnie Raitt, Earl Scruggs, Merle Haggard, James Cotton, Keith Richards and Robbie Robertson." Sounds good to me.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 20:39:46 CEST 2001 from (24.159.100.75)

DP

Let's see opening acts, went to a festival, in a small town in New York State, think it was the town of Bethel, hmmmm. If my memory serves me, opening act was Richie Havens, or was it Country Joe, maybe, Joan Baez, nah Sly, no way, CSN and Y. Know it was not Janice, she was too much into the southern comfort to ever see the day light.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 17:44:32 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Sorry to keep posting, but the web site linked above has a brief history of the 45, if you're interested. It says the peak sales years of 45s were 1973-1976 (much later than I would have guessed).

Posted on Wed Oct 24 17:41:45 CEST 2001 from (63.46.55.163)

Crabgrass

Couldn't agree more. With phrases and words like "engines," "death trap," and "suicide machine," Bruce's "Born To Run" (the title too!!) was a very poor choice to sing in front of the WTC heroes and relations of those killed.

Too bad they got Melissa a new mic that worked.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 17:39:40 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

A quick web search turns up an error in the last post. The LP was invented by Peter Goldmark at CBS (not Phillips - although with today's merger mania they may now be the same company :) Goldmark also invented color television and is in the Engineering Hall of Fame. Let's hear it for Hungarian ingenuity (he was born in Budapest).

Posted on Wed Oct 24 17:36:32 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Peter Viney: The different size hole in 33 and 45 records has to do with the history of their invention. Before the 50's all records were 78s, with the small holes, I believe. Then someone at (I think) Phillips invented a record long enough to hold an entire movement of a symphony on one side. (Imagine having to switch records five minutes into a symphony!) This was the 33 LP record, and quite a marketing coup. Naturally, everyone then had to go out and buy Phillips record players to run at 33 rpm.

RCA, not wanted to be left out of the action, countered with a new record format that offered two conveniences: the 45 had better sound fidelity than the 78, but cost less than an LP (also, you only had to buy the song you wanted and not 10 other songs about which you were indifferent.) To compound the need to now buy an RCA record player that ran at 45 rpm, they made the records incompatible with the Phillips record player's spindle (the original RCA record players had the large spindle.)

After a while, manufacturers started making multi-speed phonographs, so the competitive advantage of the big hole was lost, but like the qwerty keyboard, institutional momentum (pressing plants already were set up to make big-hole 45s) led to the continuance of an inefficient setup.

If my Phillips recollection is correct, then that company is responsible for both the LP and the CD. Let's hear it for Dutch ingenuity!

Posted on Wed Oct 24 17:17:38 CEST 2001 from (205.211.160.1)

Jerry Tenenbaum

In no particular order chronologically: Moxy Fruvus/ for Bob Dylan: Paul James/ for Bob Dylan: Aimee Mann/ for Bob Dylan: Mason Rufner/ for Bob Dylan: Timbuk3/for Bob Dylan: Junkhouse/for Bob Dylan (in Hamilton, Ont): The Alarm/for Bob Dylan (in Hamilton): Sue Foley/for Bob Dylan: Last but far from least---Levon and the Hawks/ for Bob Dylan (Nov. 15, 1965/Massey Hall , Toronto):

Posted on Wed Oct 24 17:12:06 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Ben Pike: I thought the article that you referred to on Salon.com was in poor taste. Just someone jumping on the "let's find fault with everything" bandwagon. The author wrote that the rescue workers appeared to be "lusting for blood"...they have lived the nightmare and are the ones picking up the pieces...honestly, I wonder how any of us would feel in that situation? I don't think that the songs chosen for the NYC benefit concert were supposed to have some sort of theme... such as memorializing the victims or the disaster. I got the feeling that the whole NYC concert was about giving the rescue workers a break...a chance to loosen up a little bit...and to raise some funds too. Yes...it was corporate, a couple of artists plugged new releases, it was long, there was some beer drinkin' goin' on. No...it wasn't a perfect event with perfect people...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. I believe that Paul McCartney had the best of intentions in organizing this event and that some MAJOR GOOD will be done with the money raised. I realize that we all have our different beliefs regarding war and peace and who did what and for what reasons and why this whole nightmare happened in the first place, but sometimes can't we just try to focus on the truths instead of the falsity?

"For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it." - Ivan Panin

Posted on Wed Oct 24 15:24:06 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.17)

Peter Viney

John’s query on the adaptor thing set me thinking. Why were they there in the first place? British 45 rpm records had a centre with a small hole like LPs, so we never needed them. When we got US or French import 45s we had to go and buy plastic adaptors that fitted in the middle with slots. They had three curving arms and were grey. You had to bend the arms slightly to fit them, which meant they held firmly in place. They were called ‘spiders’ here. If they’re totally unobtainable now, I can take one out for you John! I had one in every old 45 – and you really only need one. We also needed them if we bought ex-jukebox 45s secondhand. British 45s had a weakened ring area so the centre could be knocked out for jukeboxes which had the big hole, probably because they were American made. I was fond of ex-jukebox soul 45s for a little DJ-ing at university, because being a total music snob, I used to play the B-sides a lot (which were never badly worn). “Killer Bs” included “Let’s Go Baby (Where the Action Is)” the B-side of “Barefootin’” by Robert Parker, “Beggar’s Parade” a Four Seasons B-side, and “Don’t look Back” by The Temptations.

This all reminds me of a conversation 3 weeks ago. A friend told me there was a debate in Germany because everyone had just realized there was no word for the piece of plastic used to divide your purchases from the next person’s purchases at the supermarket checkout. Thousands of the things about, we all use them every day, but there’s no common word for them.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 14:49:33 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Ben Pike: I was left wondering about some of the song selections at the Concert for NYC. "Born to Run" - a song about cutting all your home ties - at a memorial for those who died saving their neighbors and hometown? "Won't Get Fooled Again" in a time when we're looking to our government for some peace of mind? "Living on a Prayer" when, as Crabgrass will be happy to point out, many many prayers seemingly went unanswered? On the other hand, Mick & Keith were right on with both "Salt of the Earth" (dedication to the "little man") and "Miss You" (perfect NYC song), and even Paul's new album plug "Thinking of You" (?) captured the feelings of many who had lost loved ones.

I also wish I had known it was six hours long. We were waiting for Macca, and we said, OK, Mick Jagger, Paul must be next... OK, The Who, Paul must be next...

Posted on Wed Oct 24 14:20:51 CEST 2001 from (63.46.55.218)

Crabgrass

The sublime and the unsublime: McCartney & Stern.

A haiku consists of only 3 lines. (Haik you!!)

Posted on Wed Oct 24 13:39:03 CEST 2001 from (64.12.105.33)

Brien Sz

The Concerts that got away: Never saw Springsteen or the Stones and had the opportunity to see both - circumstances at the time prevented me from attending -always thought i'd catch 'em on the next tour. Now I don't know if they would be worth seeing based on recent material that would probably be included on set lists.

This one not so much got away as went away. I was a junior in high school and my buddies and I were planning on camping at the mall for Led Zep tickets, then news came that Bonham died. You knew it was over..,At this juncture in my life I had never heard of the Band. My groups at this point were Yes, Floyd, Kansas, Zep, Bad Company, Rush, Steve Miller Band, Van Morrison, The Doors, The Stones.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 13:18:11 CEST 2001 from (24.4.255.225)

Mugs

Excuse me for failing to mention Ben Keith as a member of Neil Young's touring band of two summers ago. The backup singers were Astrid and Ingrid Young.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 07:34:28 CEST 2001 from (64.230.42.209)

brown eyed girl

AN INTERVIEW WITH KEITH RICHARDS

Bockris: Do you feel that it was your destiny to be a musician?

Richards: Well, when I used to pose in front of the mirror at 'ome, I was hopeful. The only thing I was lacking was a bit of bread to buy an instrument. But I got the moves off first, and I got the guitar later.

Bockris: Brian Jones was the leader, then Mick became the leader, but now there's a feeling that, musically, you're the leader of THE ROLLING STONES.

Richards: I guess it takes a long time.....I mean, I'm basically doing the same thing now as I always have done. I run around trying to communicate with the rest of them becauses Charlie's sitting down and Bill's over there and I'm more free, and I give them the tempo because early on I evolved a certain style of playing that is fairly basic. I know that I can give what's needed to Charlie and Bill and Ronnie to keep the thing together.

Bockris: Is the guitar an instrument you can get further and further into?

Richards: I think most guitar players feel that they're always still learning. Nobody ever feels that they've reached anywhere near covering the whole thing. It's still coming up with surprises. Although that's not THE most important thing to me. It's never been a function in our band to do one thing or another. We're all doing all of it, you know. That's what happens and that's what interests me about it, it's not who's playing virtuoso. I'm interested in what people can do in terms of an overall sound and the intensity of it that can be done on that level. I mean, five people produce one thing out of five separate things going on. After all, what's the point of dissecting everything and putting parts under a microscope and ignoring the rest?

Bockris: Do you think of songs as short stories?

Richards: Some people equate good work with being difficult to do, but a lot of the time it's the easiest thing. It just sort of flashes by you so quick that people virtually tell you. You didn't even see it yourself. SATISFACTION was the biggest hit we've ever had, and it just came BOING BANG CRASH, and it was on tape before I felt it.

Bockris: Why can't they find a way at this point to make money out of grass and cocaine?

Richards: 'Oo knows? Let's just say that I can't see myself, or anybody that I know, preferring to buy a packet of prerolled marijuana cigarettes when I know that it's going to be grade C.

Bockris: Do you think alcohol addiction is as hard to kick as drug addiction?

Richards: Yes, I think so......Booze is something that I can take or leave, but it is a poison. I do feel there's that double standard that we all talk about.....The way some people change on it is amazing, and then, goddamit, every morning when you wake up you've got a cold turkey whether you like it or not.

Bockris: Rock is like drugs in a way, because people listen to it to cure their pain. Rock music makes you feel good, brings you out of yourself under any circumstances at all.

Richards: It will do that for you in a way. Maybe why drugs are so associated with rock music is that the people who actually create the music no longer get that feeling from rock unless they're actually playing it. I mean, they can't put a record on and just feel good anymore because it's just so much to do with part of the business. So you turn to other things to make yourself feel good. It's just a theory [laughing]....I don't know. That's my excuse, anyway.

Bockris: Is music magic to you?

Richards: In the way that MAGIC is a word for something that is power that we don't fully understand and can enable things to happen. I mean, nobody really understands the effect that certain rhythms have on people, but our bodies beat. We're only alive because the heartbeat keeps going all the time. And also certain sounds can kill. It's a specialty of the French for some reason. The French are working with huge great speakers which blow down houses and kill laboratory technicians with one solitary blast. I mean, the trumpets of Jericho and all that.....But on another level, if you go to Africa or Jamaica, you see people living to that rhythm. They eat, talk, walk, fuck, sleep, do everything to that rhythm. It's magic in that it's an unexplored area.

Bockris: But in a way, you're addicted to the guitar, right?

Richards: Yeah. There's another thing. Now maybe it's because rock and roll's such a tight formula. The most important thing is, because the formula is so strict, it's the variations that come about within this format that are the things people turn onto. Because it's the same old thing again, but there's one or two slightly different ways of doing things that make one record stand out different from another. And it's when you're into it to that degree of trying to find ............

Posted on Wed Oct 24 07:20:58 CEST 2001 from (24.218.186.92)

Long Distance Operator

Just saw Macca on the Howard Stern "E" show. What a sublime human being.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 05:36:11 CEST 2001 from (207.218.213.50)

Laura Holt Lorfing

Hello Band fans! Well I took a weekend trip to NYC this past weekend. I had not been there since 1986 so I was glad to be able to go since it has been 15 years. It took me by surprise but as we were getting ready to land at La Guardia we flew over Ground Zero and it made me sick. It just hit me so hard the magnitude of what had happened almost 2 months ago that I just lost it and cried. I was looking down at this huge pit that looked as if it was still smoking. Nothing but emptyness. All I could think of until we were on the ground is that I just flew over about 5,000 people who had lost there lives. I eventually got my snap and decided that I was going to have fun and just be there to support the city by spending as much money as I could LOL!! I was disapointed that I was unable to see the benefit concert this past Saturday but just hanging out in midtown, visiting with some of the locals was really nice. The business owners where we ate and shopped were so happy to see some out of towners out and about spending money. I was glad my mother and I were able to go and show our support. NYC is one of the greatest if not THE greatest city in the world! Donna in PA.& Acadian Ruby...I'm so sorry we missed seeing each other. My next trip north ....Barnburner show and a trip to Big Pink!!

Posted on Wed Oct 24 04:02:00 CEST 2001 from (64.230.42.209)

brown eyed girl

Opening Acts

Malcolm Tomlinson Band/Meatloaf
Black Uhuru (Black Freedom) /The Clash
Sue Foley/B.B.King
Winnipeg's Holly McNarland/Kingston's Moist......I was there for Holly......Her band also opened for the Wallflowers......Why doesn't Robbie support a talent who writes her own music, has a powerful voice and plays with a definite rock edge?.....She's also part Native as well.......
Someone help me here.....either Smash Mouth or Wide Mouth Mason/Rolling Stones.....

First Ever Concert: Yes......The only concert I ever attended for the scene......and not the music......I grew up in a small city......not far from Robbie's Native Reserve.......someone rented a bus in highschool to take us to Toronto to see Yes.......While we were sitting waiting for the show to begin......I felt broken glass all of a sudden.......A few of us realized that someone had thrown a broken bottle......I thought......It's only rock and roll alright.......
Second Concert....Someone rented another bus and we travelled to Buffalo, New York to see the Rolling Stones.......the days when Mick would throw water on the audience......The bus trip alone was one big party even before we arrived at the show........

Concert Tickets.......There was a time at Ontario Place, Toronto where I could see concerts for only 7.00

Robert Palmer
Jimmy Cliff
Peter Tosh
Roy Orbison
B.B.King
Grover Washington Jr.
Jennifer Warnes singing Leonard Cohen's songs
Toronto's Dan Hill
Canada's Bruce Cockburn
Toronto via Scotland Murray Mclaughlin
54-40
Gladys Knight and The Pips
Smokey Robinson
on and on and on.......

Posted on Wed Oct 24 04:00:21 CEST 2001 from (24.4.255.224)

Mugs

Regarding opening acts, in the summer of 2000 The Pretenders opened for Neil Young with a subdued and poignant set which began with "The Loner" and ended with "The Needle and the Damage Done" (sorry, I don't remember the song's exact title).

The arrangement of Neil Young's band's instruments on stage, especially the many keyboards, caused me to remark to my wife between acts that I felt like we were seeing The Band. And the playing by Duck Dunn, Spooner Oldham, Jim Keltner, and NY was similarly careful and moving. I hope many of you got to see that tour.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 03:29:11 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.201)

KEVIN BROWN

Saw Emerson, Lake & Palmer in Dallas in '92. Opening act? Bonham. Go figure. Didn't get to see the NYC concert but have seen mentioned here that Elton John was there. By any chance did he perform "Madman accross the water"? Kevin

Posted on Wed Oct 24 03:05:52 CEST 2001 from (205.188.195.43)

Bayou Sam

.....Oh yeah - almost forgot -

WAY TO GO YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

Posted on Wed Oct 24 03:03:10 CEST 2001 from (205.188.195.43)

Bayou Sam

Bob Wigo = you beat me to it - I heard that Townshend excerpt read on the radio today and I was going to mention it in the GB. Nice job. Pete really is one of the greats. I still enjoy his Empty Glass album. Any of you who have never seen it, go rent the movie, "The Kids are Allright". You will be a Who fan right after it's over...... Zak Starky grew up a Keith Moon fan, and of course Keith was great friends with Ringo. Zak is the proud owner of a beautiful white and gold Pearl drumset that was owned and played by Moonie. He gave it to Ringo, and Ringo gave it to Zak.

I could have sworn that Mick was onstage for the finale. Everyone says no though.

It does my heart good to see the positive McCartney comments. I certainly agree with some of the other posters that Paul somehow gets looked at as second-rate to the "saint-like" stature that some people have given Lennon since his murder - something that Lennon surely would have hated. I tend to lean slightly toward John when it comes to the songs - but just slightly. I do like Strawberry Fields better than Penny Lane, but Penny Lane is fantastic. These two guys were equally brilliant songwriters and had about the healthiest damn musical competitiveness you'll find. They also seemed to have the utmost respect for each others musical abitlity. I've said this before, but I think that Paul's greatness will probably be more acknowledged by the average music fan after he's gone. I mean, shit - the man wrote Yesterday and Helter Skelter. That's diversity.

That's my little Paul tribute speech. Thank you- and goodnight.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 01:19:25 CEST 2001 from (152.163.201.66)

Daves' No Brainer GB Quiz

Question: Ever since the GB re-opened in a moderated form, one particular poster has been consistently :

A.Redundant

B.Boring

C.Vacuous

D.All of the above

The following IS a Haiku:

Little bird

Fly, fly away

Little bird

Please...migrate today

Posted on Wed Oct 24 00:54:14 CEST 2001 from (63.31.15.56)

Toby Anderson

I'm 50 something and have loved the Band for a longtime.

Posted on Wed Oct 24 00:18:12 CEST 2001 from (204.101.153.10)

Mike Nomad

Re the 45-rpm spindle-hole reduction thingie, the guy-who-knows-everything-sitting-next-to-me says he remembers it being called a cookie. As for me, I didn't know it even had a name.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 23:43:28 CEST 2001 from (63.228.41.240)

P.S. 2001

SI SENOR! Pete Townshend is a briliant man. He has such a complex character. Genius writer, performer, and philosopher. "Sunrise" from The Who Sell Out is still one of the most obscure and beautiful songs from the rock era. Just Pete and his acoustic. cool stuff

Posted on Tue Oct 23 23:23:14 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

John D: Is spindle the word you're looking for (or spindle adaptor)?

I saw the Band open for John Prine one time in '96, and I saw a great show where Leo Kottke opened for Lyle Lovett in Chapel Hill, NC in '88.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 21:51:49 CEST 2001 from (206.77.150.207)

pehr

Thanks Bob Wigo for sharing the Pete entry. Pete was a mentor of sorts for me too. Glad to hear he's still rockin harder and harder.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 21:51:06 CEST 2001 from (64.12.103.177)

bob wigo

The excerpts from Pete Townshend's website were reprinted here with the expressed permission of Mr. Townshend. His site clearly spells out the procedure which I followed to the letter.

One's comments must first be worthy of plagarizing before it need be considered.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 21:32:40 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

OK. Dumb question; but it's driving me crazy. I know there are a lot of funny answers; but I'm really looking for the real answer

What was the technical name for the thing that you put in the middle of your 45's so that you could play them on your turntable. I've heard the word "adapter"; but I think there was a real name for them. Some were a yellow plastic piece and some looked thicker and usually went on a hi-fi. God I'm feeling old asking this question. I'm getting ready to go a little retro here and I have to buy one (or a pkg. of the yellow ones) to record some of my old 45's. Thanks for helping.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 19:32:36 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

When I saw The Band perform on Dec. 10, 1970, at the old Municipal Auditorium in Atlanta, there was no opening act. That was extremely rare back in those days, when the average concert bill often featured three name acts. I was reminded of the details of this concert when the remastered "Stage Fright" was released and the CD booklet included a picture of an ad for that Atlanta concert. Ticket prices were $4,$5 & $6! My buddies & I splurged and got the $6 ones when we went down to Clark's Music on the square in Decatur. Twenty-nine years later, to the day, Dec. 10th sadly took on a new significance.

In contrast, the year before we purchased tickets by mail to see the Rolling Stones at Auburn University in Alabama from the Auburn Interfraternity Council at the then-extravagant price of $8. This was the tour that ended fatefully a short time later at Altamont. The bill that night opened with Terry Reid, followed by Chuck Berry accompanied by a local pick-up band. The Stones arrived late from near-by Muscle Shoals, where they'd been recording on the sly. Despite the lateness of the hour, they put on a tremendous show that night. Although our tickets were way in the back, the Stones' roadies kindly let us stand right at the lip of the stage to watch.

As a follow-up to Fred's post about the Who -- In 1967, Herman's Hermits played in Atlanta. The Blues Magoos opened, followed by the Who! The Municipal Auditiorium was basically filled with our young female classmates there to see Herman, and my buddies & I were among the few there to see the Who. When the Who took the stage, we howled the whole time with delight, while the young girls, for the most part, sat in stunned silence. Perhaps as a show of hostility to this reaction, Townsend, Daltry, Enwhistle & Moon added a bit more agressive enthusiasm that night as they destroyed their equipment on stage following their last song, "My Generation". We cheered at the top of our lungs and later laughed so hard, we almost cried, when Herman & his Hermits took the stage to serenade Mrs. Brown's lovely daughters, as it were. The next day at school, the girls gave us dirty looks when we made fun of Mr. Noone and praised the inspiring antics of the Who.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 18:45:42 CEST 2001 from (205.211.160.1)

Jerry Tenenbaum

Hearing "Salt Of The Earth" reminds me of how many wonderful songs there are on albums which never get the kind of exposure they should. What we need (again) are radio stations that go out on a limb (the way they used to in the mid to late 60s) and play material other than the 'playlist' of hits. Some of these can be found via the internet. They seem to eminate from universities and colleges but not from the mainstream radio stations. I wish that we had that kind of mainstream radio again. Perhaps I'm a dreamer (I've been accused of that crime) but a station like CJRT Jazz 91.x in Toronto is a welcome relief from the trials and tribulations of most radio today. I understand the pressures of sales and advertising, but true alternative radio was one of my joys in the past. Perhaps it's time for a reexamination and maybe someone could even make money at it.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 18:38:38 CEST 2001 from (4.54.18.205)

Charlie Young

Bob Wigo: thanks for passing along Townshend's quote about the Islamic Extremist banning of music--it reminds me of Frank Zappa's "Central Scrutinizer" who did the same. I love Hank's idea about a full-volume Dylan concert blasted at the Taliban. They really wouldn't know what hit them. "Some might even say that the devil's got my soul, but that's a bunch of SH...--I just want to rock'n'roll..."

Posted on Tue Oct 23 17:29:03 CEST 2001 from (64.12.104.49)

Ben Pike

To rebuke those who liked the benefit show, I recommend Jim DeRogatis excellent "Stop This Benefit!" on Salon, a peice so honest Salon has allready hedged and published a rejoiner. Why let others speak for me? Frankly, I don't want to take the time to write something and then have it purged.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 15:11:30 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.196)

bob wigo

I've been a Pete Townshend fan for nearly as long as I can remember. He is a musical powerhouse as well as a bright, articulate and sensitive human being. If you have never visited his site you really should treat yourself. It's quite good. There are some terrific onstage photos of The Who from the NYC show already there.

I'm posting this excerpt from his Diary section. It was posted by Pete on 10/18/2001. I believe it speaks directly to the feelings we share here on a daily basis.

"Coming here has made me angry. Angry with those dark-hearted people who feel the need to drag down this great source of human energy and love to their mundane and dusty level. If they hate what the USA says and does, then they hate our chosen spiritual path. We are not perfect, we know that. But we know that this country, this way of life, democracy with all its faults, is the only way we can take responsibility and grow spiritually, emotionally, intelligently and as humanitarians today. We know no other way. Their way can never be our way. Let me illustrate that with one example of many.

The one fact that Fundamental Muslims carry in their extreme faith that leaves me in complete incomprehension as to what they actually feel every day of their life, is that they have banned music.

To them, as someone who literally lives for music, I do not exist. To me, they are the 'Great Satan'. Take music from life and it becomes death. Not some glorious metaphorical death that transmogrifies into some warped notion of 'the Other Side', Heaven, Hell or what have you. It is a literal death. For when I die, if I don't hear music, I would prefer to go on living. And that, in my private spiritual process, would be hell."

I only wish Pete would have played "Let's See Action" on Saturday night.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 15:05:20 CEST 2001 from (159.105.102.8)

John Cass

This past Sunday I saw a great double bill Leo Kottke and Doc Watson at the Lebanon Oprea House in NH. Great small place to see a show I hope to go back on Feb 2 to see the Holmes Brothers. I would love to see a triple bill Jim Weider and Honky Tonk Gurus, Proffesor Louie & Crowmatix feat. Garth Hudson, and Levon Helm & Barnburners. A great double bill would be Levon Helm & Barnburners with old pal John Hammond's Wicked Grin, what do you say Butch?? what are the chances of us fans seeing any of those shows???

Give me a time and place and I am there!!!!!!!!!

Posted on Tue Oct 23 13:58:53 CEST 2001 from (152.163.213.188)

Brien Sz

First EVER Concert: YES, 1979.
2nd Concert: LoverBoy/Journey..,

Posted on Tue Oct 23 13:17:35 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.40)

Hank

I HAVE to agree with Fred.....didn't The US Army deploy some AC/DC when flushing Noriega out of the Vatican Embassy in Nicuragua?.....Great Idea! Tim Burton defeated the Martians with Slim Whitman.......The Beatles defeated The Blue Meanies with "All You Need Is Love"...........but, it seems there be bigger and bluer meanies at large, these days.......Actually, you probably COULD defeat The Terrorists by choosing the right kinda music.........What would drive The Taliban nuts?........Has Dylan ever played Kabul?.....Maybe NOW's The time.......If Dylan went out there and sang "Sad Eyed Lady of The Lowlands", I bet'cha The Taliban would fold very quickly............

"KEEEP YER Warehouse Eyes, Bob, .....and we've got ENUFF Arabian Drums, thanks.....just STOP, please!!!!! We Surrender, just go away back to your God-Forsaken gig in Idaho or somewhere and leave us alone!!!!!!!......."

Speaking of Bob, how come he wasn't up on stage there the other night in MSG? "Masters of War" or "With God on Our Side" woulda gone down a treat, I reckon.....or "Political World" or "Everythings Broken" or "Highwater" to be more up to date.........or "Hard Times in New York Town". I reckon the organisers of these things don't trust Bob after what he said at Live Aid.......and, anyway, he was probably playing in Idaho....or somewhere.......in America.......like he has been for years now....

Probably what The Taliban need, tho', are The Barnburners.....The Taliban obviously have The Blues and The BBs would give their hearts a throb from their Beards down to their feet............they might even start to boogie with their ladies............ which seems to be their biggest hangup, really......

Posted on Tue Oct 23 13:16:50 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.202)

hugh evans

I've been seeing the comments on Zac Starkey playing drums with the Who Saturday night. In the spring of 2000, the Who put out a 2 CD live set that was recorded in November and December of 1999. It was called "blues to the bush". It was recorded at the House of Blues and in Shepherd's Bush, London. The band consisted of Pete, Roger, John, Rabbit Bundrick and Zac Starkey. It is fantastic and contains everything you would expect, including "anyway, anyhow, anywhere", and "the kid's are alright". Listening to it, you would swear it was Moonie on the drums. The only place I ever saw it advertised was on VH1. If you can find it, get it.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 12:26:03 CEST 2001 from (63.17.108.149)

Hi

How about Jay and the Americans opening for the Stones also on the bill: Bobby Comstock and the Counts doing Boney Maroney..in New York on the Stones' first or second tour of the States...a good one was the Flying Burrito Brothers opening for Van Morrison in Pasaaic, New Jersey..

Posted on Tue Oct 23 10:54:31 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.5)

Peter Viney

The key to the concert was that throughout the celebrity guests (i.e. the police and firefighters) were participating rather than observing, right up to getting on stage for “Let it Be.” Good to see these guys out enjoying themselves after the hardest and worst few weeks of their lives. Paul McCartney has a unique ability to communicate and used it. And it is totally sincere. His dad was indeed a fireman in the bombing of Liverpool. And of course “Freedom” should be the charity single. No question after that show.

As to who was or wasn’t there, remember that Paul originally started all this as a way of showing the appreciation British musicians have for the USA in general and NYC in particular (hence The Who, Jagger/Richard, Clapton, Elton, Bowie), then it broadened out and he wanted the broadest spectrum of artists to raise the most possible money. What it’s all about. On this kind of show it’s hard for an artist to ‘volunteer’. He invited the ones he knew personally and then the ones he knew were current megastars. He got it right. Of his original British targets, he got the total A list. Then Bon Jovi, Destiny’s Child, Macy Gray, Billy Joel … You could argue forever about “Why wasn’t X or Y there in the finale…’. My feeling in the finale was that they wanted as many firefighters and police officers as stars on stage, and got it.

My one regret is not taping it. I recently copied over my four videos of Live Aid, realizing I’d only watched little bits over 15 years (mainly Madonna). I thought this time, ‘No, these are events of the moment. You won’t watch it later.’ Wrong this time, I think. BTW, Bowie on both America and Heroes was wonderful.

Opening acts: least enviable job. Peter Jay & the Jaywalkers opening for The Beatles (63 or 64?). Not a single note was audible. They were booed. Chanted at. Lost in screams, but still looked convincingly as if they were playing something together. Trivia: This was at Bournemouth Winter Gardens. The soundtrack of a news film made that night forms the crowd noise on The Byrds ‘So You Wanna Be A Rock & Roll star.” A minor touching incident on the news. An Afghani woman refugee demonstrated the burqua and what it was like to look through it. She then tossed it contemptuosly to the floor, ‘We won’t be needing that anymore.” Reminding us that a core few thousand male fanatics have held several million women in prison conditions for several years. And the core of these aren’t even Afghani. A dose of freedom is exactly what is needed.

Illka – WGOOS. Glad to hear there were no Anglican graves on the Alands, then! Well, Churchill always believed it : - )

Posted on Tue Oct 23 08:16:21 CEST 2001 from (202.239.129.43)

Fred

Re:Opening acts....my friend's brother saw the Who open for Herman's Hermits 'waaaaaaay back in the Sixties. He told me it was really weird in that most of the audience were girls wanting to see the Hermits....

JTull Fan: agree with you vis-a-vis Paul McCartney/John Lennon, but I have one question...WHY the Yankees?!?!?!!? Seeing that it's going to be a Yankees-Diamondbacks World Series who will Billy Crystal root for...his childhood heroes or the team he owns a stake in?

Is it just me, or have any of you out there in Band Land noticed this: the applause found on Rock of Ages seems too "polite" (compared to other live albums/CDs--by other groups).Does anyone know why? perhaps the concert goers were more music affecionados than rabble-rousiong yahoos?

On a final note, maybe the Taliban & their terrorist chums should be bombarded with music (played extremely loud, say on a scale of 1 to 10...a Spinal Tap 11)...Yoko Ono ad nasuem or Tiny Tim's Tiptoe Through the Tulips (although I like the latter) over and over and over again. I'm sure there would be a quick end to all of this. Sayonara one and all.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 07:13:53 CEST 2001 from (63.46.54.179)

Crabgrass' GB Quiz!!

Directions: Choose the correct answers.

1. The moderated Guestbook is most like which liquid?

a.) Water

b.) Molasses

c.) Quicksilver

d.) Buttermilk

2. The moderated Guestbook is most like which creature?

a.) Grasshopper

b.) Rabbit

c.) Snail

d.) Sloth

3. Which mail delivery service is most like the moderated Guestbook?

a.) Fed-Ex

b.) Express Mail

c.) Pony Express

d.) Air Mail

4. Which communication device most resembles the moderated Guestbook?

a.) Cell-phone

b.) Pay Phone

c.) Walkie-Talkie

d.) Telegraph

Please e-mail your answers to me for tabulation.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 05:20:51 CEST 2001 from (64.64.94.194)

Charlie Young

Check the link above to Pete Townshend's official site for his comments and photos from last weekend's "Concert for New York." There is a connection to The Band, as that seemingly Keith Moon-possessed drummer for the gig was none other than Ringo's son, Zak Starkey. I thought their performance was amazing, too...

Posted on Tue Oct 23 05:13:23 CEST 2001 from (12.88.111.185)

Ray Cas

Opening acts: Saw Rick Danko solo open up for the Jerry Garcia Band at the Calderone Concert Hall in February 1980. Wish I was more into The Band back then as I would have enjoyed it more than I remember. Was just him up there with a guitar or bass. Does anyone remember that tour?

Posted on Tue Oct 23 05:09:33 CEST 2001 from (12.88.111.185)

Ray Cas

Chris, The Who's drummer was none other than Richard Starkey, RIngo's sun, who had a very good tutor in Keith Moon.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 03:20:17 CEST 2001 from (204.39.227.130)

twilight

Last news heard round here was that Zak Starkey was touring with The Who. Tried to get a good look Saturday night - my guess is that it was he who manned the sticks. Son of a Beatle meets the Who. Paul McCartney's set was pretty weak. Rather certain that Mr. Jag and Keith ditched the final as they didn't want to a part of the Sir Paul finale. It did surprise me that Elton John was not out there. Good to see NRBQ mentioned on this sight.

Posted on Tue Oct 23 02:23:12 CEST 2001 from (64.230.43.129)

brown eyed girl

I would like to give.......THANKS AND PRAISES......to SOME of the FEMALE MUSICIANS in the world who usually have TWO JOBS...........

Barbara Dennerlein....jazz Hammond organist
Winnipeg's Chantal Kreviazuk.....piano.....husband is lead singer of Canada's Our Lady Peace......audience at No Borders Concert last night.....knew all the words to this band's music as well....
Sheila E.....percussionist.....father was from original Santana and played percussion as well
Canada's Diana Krall....jazz pianist
Marian McPortland....jazz pianist
Moe Tucker....Velvet Underground drummer
Candy Dulfer....saxophonist
Nova Scotia's Sara Mclauchlin....piano....husband is her drummer
Tina Weymouth....bass guitar.....her husband was in the same Talking Heads band and played drums
Cheryl Crow....bass and guitar
Sue Foley....bluezzzzzzz guitarist
Bonnie Raitt....bluezzzzzzz guitarist and sssssslide
Saskatoon's Joni Mitchell....bass guitar when I saw her in Toronto for the third time.......Bill......You are such a show off!! :-DD......guitar and piano at Isle of Wight......BTW......huge disappointment......Dylan is listed as singing DESOLATION ROW......you hear the song at the end of the concert but you don't see Dylan!!
Scarlett Rivera....violinist.....apparently Dylan discovered her on the streets of NYC playing because he liked the way she looked.....;-D
Me Shell Ndegeocello....bass guitarist
Toshiko Akiyoshi....jazz pianist
Geri Allen....jazz pianist
A couple of Sly and the Family Stone's percussionists......"All the SQUARES go home!" Sly Stone was one of the first musicians to incorporate female and black/white musicians in his band...."I want to thank you....for lettin' me be myself....again". :-D

I would also like to thank Canada's Paul Schaeffer for keeping everyone in line at the Concert for NYC!

Posted on Tue Oct 23 02:19:31 CEST 2001 from (198.164.200.214)

Unfaithful Servant

OPENING ACTS: ZZ Top/Stones(1972). Charles Brown&Jeff Healey/Bonnie Raitt. Bob Seeger/BTO. Cheap Trick/Meatloaf. Starcastle/Gentle Giant. Living Color/Stones. Lyle Lovett/Leo Kottke

Posted on Mon Oct 22 23:13:39 CEST 2001 from (209.202.98.139)

Bill

The best free formal concert I've attended was McLaughlan and Santana at Maple Leaf Gardens in '73. (I won tickets so it was free for me.) I've been to a ton of barroom gigs that were in the same league, though the only one I'm absolutely positive was free was BB Gabor and Instaband at Grossman's Tavern in (I'm guessing) '79. One of BB's big numbers was a blues version of "Big Yellow Taxi", which I mention only because Joni Mitchell popped into Hugh's Room in the west end to see Eric Andersen this past Wednesday, and wound up getting up and doing a song herself.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 21:29:02 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

Amanda and Chris: The hat that Levon was wearing on This Country's Rockin' said "Free James Brown". I wish there had been some Band member at the Concert For New York City. What has Robbie been doing lately? I heard he was thinking about doing some music for Scorsese's Gangs Of New York.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 21:11:04 CEST 2001 from (24.164.174.169)

Dennis

Opening Acts....After The Band's 1995 shows in Chicago opening for The Grateful Dead, there was one more "Dead-related show" before Mr. Garcia expired: Bob Weir 'n Rat Dog opened for The Band in NYC's Central Park the evening before Mr. Garcia was found. Was a very interesting show, lots of back stage talk about possible future shows involving The Band and The Dead.

BTW: those shows in Chicago weren't so bad, Band music-wise. The problem with those shows was that the audience was still partying in the parking lots, and the stadium was nearly empty, probably no more than 15k fans seeing The Band in that huge stadium. That was the sad part.

Back to Mr. Garcia: a kind'a sad article in 10/22/01's L.A. Times about how his estate has almost reached settlement with all those involved. Makes for interesting reading, hopefully I got the link (above) correct.

Finally, lots of great reviews on this site about Saturday evening's benifit show from New York City. Was a fine show, but it was also primarily a benifit fund-raiser. Here's hoping that everyone who saw the show was able to dig-down deep, found a couple of spare bucks, and logged on to www.helping.org and contributed: there were lots of window and dish washers, mail room clerks, elevator operators, etc, with little or no insurance whose families now need our help. The Robinhood Foundation at www.helping.org is out there looking after those folks' families and are counting on our help.....

In advance, thank-you for considering a contribution.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 19:33:40 CEST 2001 from (195.100.1.229)

Ilkka

Calm down, calm down, it is only for Central Asian gas and oil. And for our (incl. my) retirement funds. - Good music, though.

Peter Viney and I have previously disgussed the Aland Islands War (1854) like two European gentlemen. - After the battle the Aland fortress has a graveyard with different sections: a Lutheran, a Jewish, two Orthodox, a Catholic and an Islamic. They all had God on their side so He must have had a busy day.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 19:06:30 CEST 2001 from (206.38.114.100)

Nick

I agree that the NYC concert was fantastic! Mick and Keith were the best in my opinion. Jagger moves and sings as good as he ever has. The Who were awsome even though Daltrey has lost a little off his fastball. Elton John's "Mona Lisa's and Mad Hatters" was great. McCartney was good but to hear him do his new stuff was a letdown. I guess he deserves to plug his new CD since he put the show together and he did say the proceeds from his new single will go to charity. I still would have preferred "You Never Give Me Your Money" or "Junior's Farm". What can I say? I'm just hard to please I guess. Overall I give the concert an A+. The short films were great too!

Posted on Mon Oct 22 18:34:39 CEST 2001 from (205.188.193.176)

Dave ~ (the drummer)

OPENING ACTS:

In the spring of 1972, I was a Senior in High School. Like most guys my age, I really dug The Doobie Bros. My friends & I were lucky enough to score 5th row center section seats to the show. The ticket simply read: The Doobie Bros.

The evening of the show, the lights go out & four unrecognizable figures take the stage. The crowd begins to voice their dissatisfaction. Without introduction ; the band begins to play. The crowd quiets down post-haste. The singer/piano player is so incredibly talented ; he captures everyone's attention.

After the opening tune the applause is thunderous. I can barely hear when the young man at the piano says " Hi , I'm Billy Joel from New York City and this is the band." The song was "Captain Jack." He was virtually un-known to all of us.

To this day, hundreds of concerts later, I can easily say that no (unknown) opening act ever riveted a crowd like Billy Joel did. It didn't take much time for his star to rise.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 18:29:13 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.204)

butch

ya want opening acts ?????

in the 70's,,,, up here @ new paltz college,,, we had some killer shows,, The Band, Van Morrison, Jefferson AIRPLANE, Mad Dogs & Englishmen, Chuck Berry, Mountain, Phil Ochs,POCO, etc,,,,

but one of the most memorable was when The Allman Bros OPENED for BBKING,,,,

The Allmans were hot & played for almost 2 hours as the OPENER,,,,,,,,,,, BB got pissed & wanted to go on,,,,& leave,,,

so the Allmans stopped,, BB did his 90 minutes,,, 90% of everyone left,,,,& we ( my friends & I ) sat there till 4 am with the Bros JAMMIN !!!!!!!!! DUANE was STELLAR !!!!

it was BB who ?? unforgettable show,,,

Posted on Mon Oct 22 18:01:27 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.50)

Hank

I saw Squeeze open for The Police once......great show.......

I would have liked to have seen The Band and The Dead on the same show

I would have liked to have seen that show at MSG on Saturday night............

Posted on Mon Oct 22 17:33:32 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Pete (M.F.ing) Townshend!!!!!!

Loved every minute of The Who. The Moose as always was great. It was interesting to watch Daltrey, who I always consider one of the most egotistical men on earth, seem very modest. He struggled a little bit with the vocals and I thought he was really working hard and doing his best. He pulled it together after a rough start and seemed to really be trying just to hang in there. Townshend unleashed a guitar fury that I have never heard from him before.

I have maybe 20 or 30 bootlegs of The Who. All era's...to the best of my recollection that is the hardest I have heard Townshend rock. And does anyone know who that drummer is.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 17:24:08 CEST 2001 from (159.105.102.9)

JOHN CASS

Me being a huge Joe Cocker fan forgot to mention in 1990 Joe Cocker and Stevie Ray Vaughn, 2000 Joe Cocker and Tina Turner, and this year Joe Cocker and the Guess Who those are all great double bills!!! I wish I could of seen the Mad Dogs and Englishmen tour with all those great musicains I wonder if they had a opening act.... anyone out in GB land see any of the Mad Dog tour back in the day????

Posted on Mon Oct 22 17:09:39 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Most memorable opening act that I've seen was Bruce Springsteen at Richard's nightclub in Atlanta, opening for NRBQ in 1974. David Sancious & Vini Lopez(?) were members of the E-Street Band at the time. It was equally memorable for us NRBQ fans also, because original guitarist Steve Ferguson had rejoined the group briefly and was playing along side Al Anderson, Terry Adams, Joey Spampinato and Tom Staley. Believe me -- both groups set the stage on fire that night!

Posted on Mon Oct 22 16:10:48 CEST 2001 from (64.90.4.86)

Mike Carrico

This weekend my wife & I ventured out to the US Border Cantina in beautiful downtown Roswell GA, where our ears were treated to the dulcet tones of Steve & Dave; Dave being none other than the Guestbook's own David Powell...

Despite formidable competition from several big screen tvs, all showing the Braves fumbling away game four in painfully large images, the boys put on quite a show. Good vocals & rhythm acoustic from Steve, solidly supported by discreet guitar licks from Dave's Telecaster. The set list a good cross-section of r&r, of particular note Steve Stills' "Four And Twenty" sequeing seemlessly into "Can't Find My Way Home" and back again.

In The Band department, there was "The Weight" with Dave stepping up to the mic to become Chester, as well as "Up on Cripple Creek" complete with Spike Jones verse.

Thanks David for an evening of fine music...

Posted on Mon Oct 22 15:13:54 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.155)

Diamond Lil

On the subject of opening acts, I may or may not have mentioned this before..but it's funny and relevant to the thread.

Back in the early 80's, at "The Chance" down in Poughkeepsie, 'The Rick Danko Band" was playing. Their opening act (whoever they were)..never showed up... but the one that took the stage had everyone laughing. It was Rick.. and Blondie..and Sredni...calling themselves "Rip and the Van Winkles" :-) They did a few tunes, then left the stage.. only to come back out (joined by a few others) as "The Rick Danko Band". I still laugh when I think about it.

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 15:02:58 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.176)

bob wigo

BEG ---- Will Ferrell ?

McCartney did an amazing job on Saturday night. There is no one out there so much at ease with his talents. A gifted and natural performer.

The Who..incredible. Pete Townshend remains a rock and roll giant. If the opportunity arises don't miss the chance to see his solo act. I believe it's even better than his work with the band. If you haven't listened to his "Psycho Derelict" give it a try. Pick up the "music only" version and enjoy.

Keith and Mick's rendition of "Salt of the Earth" was right on the money. Great choice. By the way, Axl Rose helped out on that one a few tours back and it was alot of fun to hear he and Mick together.

James Taylor was in wonderful voice and I thought his performance was musically soothing.

The star of the show had to be Mike from Rockaway. Millions have been thinking it but he seized the opportunity to say it.

On the topic of great openers...Muddy opening for the Allman Bros. was certainly a highlight. SRV and Jeff Beck were fabulous together. The Doobie Bros. ahead of Rod and Faces was a special night. Stevie Wonder electrifying an already charged Stones crowd was amazing. There have been so many. I'd go back in a heartbeat.

An interesting phenomenon.....I can't help but think of you all while enjoying a musical event like Saturday's show. We need a space to put some faces with the names. That could be very entertaining. Peace to you all.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 14:48:30 CEST 2001 from (64.12.105.28)

James

Opening act? Capital Center in Maryland, summer 1974, headliner: The Band; opening act: Aerosmith. No shit.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 14:36:51 CEST 2001 from (205.188.200.46)

JTull Fan

More opening bands stuff: Didn't the pre-Hayward and Lodge Moody Blues open for the Beatles in '66? How about Richie Valens and The Big Bopper opening for Buddy Holly back on theat fateful tour? I have to go to the Carolinas on more business but will be back Thursday. I will check in if possible.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 14:10:04 CEST 2001 from (64.230.35.196)

brown eyed girl

TORONTO ROCKS TO AID AFGHANI REFUGEES!!!!!

Some highlights for me: America's Vince Carter (Toronto Raptor Basketball King of Dunking) opens show
Kingston, Ontario's TRAGICALLY HIP perform BOBCAYGEON......The audience know every single word to every single song to Canada's premier group......I also wished they had performed SO HARD DONE BY and NEW ORLEANS IS SINKING.....The end of the show had all the bands singing to NEIL YOUNG'S.......KEEP ROCKING IN THE FREE WORLD......

I was disappointed BRUCE COCKBURN didn't perform with a band.......The younger audience didn't even know who he was and how skillful a guitarist he actually is.....He should have played rockier tunes with an edge......more like ROCKET LAUNCHER......However, when he did play electric guitar during the closing song of the night..............

Toronto continues to display COMPASSION in all corners of the city.......On Saturday you could have someone pamper you and destress from the atrocities and psychological terrorism by having a shiatsu massage for 10.00 (fifteen minute treatment) and the proceeds were divided equally and sent to aid Afghani refugees and to restore the Hindu Temple in Hamilton, Ontario which was destroyed by fire immediately following, and as a result of, the September 11 attacks......I'm sure Sting would also approve since he practises Ashtanga Yoga.........

Posted on Mon Oct 22 14:03:54 CEST 2001 from (66.152.204.145)

Bob R

Saturday nights concert in NYC was sooo great !! The Who were outstanding---Mick Jagger & Keith Richards outstanding-- and of course Paul Mccartney---totally outstanding !!! what a great evening of TV

Posted on Mon Oct 22 13:45:04 CEST 2001 from (152.163.197.83)

JTULL Fan

Bayou Sam and Tommy: Sing along with me: "Start spreading the news. I'm leaving today. I want to be a part of it, New York! New York!...' What a game! God, wish I could have seen that Taj Mahal/The Band bill. I am a HUGE Taj fan. You guys need to check out his 'Shoutin' in Key, Taj Mahal and the Phantom Blues Band Live' from last year. On the opening acts thing, Jethro Tull had Fairport Convention open for them in the late '80's, which was wild because their bassist Dave Pegg played in BOTH bands at the time and had to pull double duty. Back in '93 Tull also had Procul Harum as an opening act followed by Emerson, Lake and Palmer back in '96.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 13:34:15 CEST 2001 from (24.2.9.42)

Craig

Classic opening act mis-match: O'Keefe Center- Cold Blood with Lydia Pense/Freddie King for Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen

Posted on Mon Oct 22 04:58:54 CEST 2001 from (205.188.197.169)

Tommy

I agree with you JTUllFan about McCartney's being knocked all the time.Like I said before, if Lennon was never killed, I dont think he would be as idolised as he is.Check out the book 'PAUL McCARTNEY;MANY YEARS FROM NOW' by Barry Miles(1999).It's a really informative read about McCartney's talents and interests especially in the late 60s, when John was getting all the attention for his art projects.McCartney did a bit of art and film himself,and was pretty successful.The book goes into detail..I recommend .

Posted on Mon Oct 22 04:42:44 CEST 2001 from (152.163.213.186)

Bayou Sam

.....great moment in tonights Yankee game - between the top and bottom of the second inning, the P.A. has "I Saw Her Standing There" playing in the stadium as they get ready for the start of the bottom of the inning. The camera gets a shot of Paul McCartney sitting in the stands, holding a bottle of Bud, and singing to the tune. when it gets to the "Ooooooo" part of the chorus, Paul stands up and does it with the recording, for the folks sitting around him - then he sits down and takes a pull off his beer. Cool.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 04:41:11 CEST 2001 from (203.101.231.103)

John Colville

I'm a professional accordionist in Australia and am presently designing my own web site with a view to promoting myself and the folk music club and festival that I run. However, I intend also to promote the accordion in general and to have a section with photographs, a short description and possibly links, of my favourite international accordionists. I would like to include Garth Hudson in this section and to this end I wish to contact for him for his approval, and I was hoping you could assist me. Regards, JC

Posted on Mon Oct 22 03:11:16 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

I agree that Paul McCartney was magnificent last night. There is a light in his eyes that is absolutely brilliant. The Who completely blew me away. I have never seen them do a live performance...I couldn't believe it!!! Of course...I was thrilled to see Buddy Guy because I love him so much! Keith & Mick, David Bowie, John Mellancamp, Eric Clapton... a great show and a loving tribute to our HEROES! I was so happy to see all the rescue workers, firemen, cops, victims and families of victims....lettin' loose. They needed the release and deserved the honor. The whole thing was quite touching and brought a tear to my eye a few times. Times are tough and extremely confusing...last night I felt so proud of my country and the way we have all pulled together. Also...it was a fine sight to see the British and American flags together as a backdrop for The Who performance...it is good to know who your friends are! Wow...they were all really rockin' to The Who...do you think all the guys & gals specially requested them??? Anyway....an amazing 5 hours of television. I hope you are enjoying the show tonight, Peter!

This band may not be everyone's cup of tea.....I saw the unknown Guns n' Roses open up for Alice Cooper in the late 80s and they ROCKED!

Posted on Mon Oct 22 01:09:16 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.41)

Bayou Sam

McCartney was the man last night, wasn't he?......coming out with the Hofner and doing "I'm Down" was too cool. The version of "Yesterday" with just the string section was gorgeous. I can't recall ever seeing Paul just standing at a mic singing, without a guitar or piano in his hands. One of the firemen told the story of Macca going to the firehouse and giving out tickets. I think McCartney displayed why he's one of the greats in many ways - way to go Pauly.

Clapton and Buddy guy was great huh? Eric seemed kind of out of it though. I love the way Macca kept shouting for EC to take a solo at the end.

The Who were AMAZING. Pete seemed to be having a blast.

Mick and Keef together. Great. I enjoyed "Salt of The Earth" better than "Miss You". Nice tune.

Why does this Kid Rock guy keep showing up at these things? I love the song "Pink Houses", but when that dude came out to sing the last verse it wrecked it for me.

The most lop-sided opening act/headliner has to be Hendrix, and The Monkees.

J Tull = last night was bad indeed. I wish Knoblauch had held on to that fly ball. Let's hope The Rocket has a full tank of fuel tonight. GO YANKS.

Posted on Mon Oct 22 01:03:28 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.238)

rollie

Opening act? Muddy Waters for Eric Clapton.I forget,76,77? Muddy ruled...............

Posted on Sun Oct 21 20:09:04 CEST 2001 from (64.64.94.194)

Charlie Young

Some of these were more co-billing than "opening acts" per se, but here are some of the more memorable ones I recall from the last three decades:

John Prine\ Bonnie Raitt

Eric Andersen\The Byrds

Taj Mahal\The Band

Dion DiMucci\Frank Zappa

Muddy Waters\Allman Brothers

Everly Brothers\ Beach Boys

Emmylou Harris\Souther, Hillman, Furay Band

Martin Mull\ Bruce Springsteen

The Band\Crosby, Stills & Nash

Of course, there are at least as many shows with unmemorable opening acts, but the above were all great ones...

Posted on Sun Oct 21 19:55:49 CEST 2001 from (62.31.224.2)

Roger Brown

Great site - informative, entertaining and well designed - thanks for filling the gaps in my knowledge

Posted on Sun Oct 21 17:24:50 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.56)

JTull Fan

God, McCartney was good last night. I feel he has been totally slighted by the 'Lennon' mystique in terms of John being the social activist, avant-garde artist extroadinairre, etc.etc. Not that I don't like Lennon; I am a genuine fan of his works. I just feel McCartney has been slighted in comparison. Both suffered artistically after the Beatles separated without the moderating influence of the other, but enough on that. McCartney was inspirational last night and the Who were just plain cathartic. What a show! Please check out the weblink I provided. If it doesn't work, go to www.madblast.com/oska/humor_bin.swf It is a hilarious parody of the Banana Boat song using Bush and Powell substituting Bin Laden/Taliban lyrics. My wife and I laughed so hard we almost cried. Great graphics too. Bummer about the Yanks but I predicited it in my last post. Just throw the ball over the *&#!*@! plate! Two outs, one man on, and you walk the bases loaded and then you challenge the batter ????. OK, bring on the Rocket!

Posted on Sun Oct 21 17:03:43 CEST 2001 from (206.15.142.174)

Larry & Mary

Hey G-Man and D Had a great time with Levon and the Barn Burners Friday night (10/19) at the Van Dyke. This was our first time and it was great sit with such true fans. What a show! Seems that Pat and Chris made the right choice in leaving the Eldorado Kings and trading "The Minnow" for Levon. No Brainer. Can't wait to hear the new CD. Thanks to you guys, Butch Dener, and especially Levon for the signed drum sticks. They have a new home on our wall. Let us know where to catch the next show! Renewed Fans Forever!

Posted on Sun Oct 21 16:58:10 CEST 2001 from (64.230.38.156)

brown eyed girl

MUSIC WITHOUT BORDERS CONCERT SUNDAY AT AIR CANADA CENTRE SINGLE TICKETS STILL AVAILABLE FOR 35.00

Scarberia's Barenaked Ladies will also be performing tonight.

Peter: I am about to read SHAMPOO PLANET by Douglas Coupland.

Bashfull Bill: One of my all time fav films with Theresa Russell, Harvey Keitel and Art Garfunkel.......BAD TIMING A SEXUAL OBSESSION.

Thanks Lil......It must have been a Freudian slip......the Stones song is MISS YOU.....not MISSING YOU.......I'm still bouncing around.....:-D

Posted on Sun Oct 21 16:43:13 CEST 2001 from (204.39.227.64)

twilight

Moments from "The Concert for New York City". Billy Crystal saying "I've been backstage at many rock concerts, but I've never seen rockers run from white powder." The fireman from ? who told Osama that he could "kiss my royal irish ass". When a fireman introduced "Mick Jagger" and Keith stood their grinning. The fact that neither Mick or Keith showed up for the grand finale. The Who absolutely kicked ass - never heard Pete play like he did last night. Macy Gray sang a cool "With A Little Help From My Friends" but she seemed well - distant. Janet Jackson could make anyone feel good. Bill got a bigger ovation than Hillary. The wives, the sons, the daughters, and the ladders got to groove and have some fun.

Posted on Sun Oct 21 15:52:42 CEST 2001 from (198.164.200.214)

Unfaithful Servant

Singers in movies: Mick Jagger in Ned Kelly. Gene Simmons in Runaway.

Posted on Sun Oct 21 13:21:44 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.9)

Peter Viney

Had a Canadian evening yesterday. Went to see Douglas Coupland at the Cheltenham Literary festival, and it was a superb 90 minute laid-back and very funny talk. His cancelled September US tour is being rescheduled for November. Don’t miss him! Then two and a half hours of country roads back home allowed a complete listen through of Leonard Cohen’s “Ten New songs” twice. I think it’s his best album.

We get the NYC concert a day late, this evening. Looking forward to it.

Posted on Sun Oct 21 12:59:31 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.42)

Lil Again

Oh..and hey..Bromley boy..you'll find the Remedy on the Jericho cd :-)

Posted on Sun Oct 21 12:57:14 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.42)

Diamond Lil

A few of my favorite musical moments from last night's concert for NYC:
David Bowie's poignant rendition of Paul Simon's "America".
Jagger and Richards very energized version of "Miss You".
Billy Joel's beautiful and touching "New York State of Mind".
The Who doing "Behind Blue Eyes" (always been a favorite of mine).
Paul McCartney's wonderful, brought-tears-to-my-eyes "Yesterday".
And the incredible finale...with Paul McCartney leading the others in an amazing rendition of "Let it Be".
Truly a huge "thank you" in honor of the FDNY..which couldn't have been more deserved.

Have a good day everyone.

Posted on Sun Oct 21 11:33:53 CEST 2001 from (62.253.64.5)

Bromleyboy

How do you cure Chest Fever ?

Posted on Sun Oct 21 08:59:40 CEST 2001 from (12.89.12.42)

Sam

I grew up near Saugerties, NY and have family throughout the Catskills. When I hear The Band's music, I don't just hear music. It takes me back to my childhood in the Catskills. The red clay, Round Top Mt., Five Mile Woods Road,.... just like I'm there!!! Wow... almost a spiritual connection!!! Just gotta chill!!!

Posted on Sun Oct 21 08:34:12 CEST 2001 from (208.16.227.7)

Mike

Tommy, you have an excellent point. I have read that Bill Wyman came up with the main riff for Jumping Jack Flash. Check the credits...Jagger/Richards. I have no doubt that many got "pencil whipped" as Levon might put it, including Ronnie and Billy Preston. I have always thought Ron Wood to be a more versatile and talented guitarist than Keith. I really only have an interest in the 60's Stones output. They did lose their artisttic side with the loss of Brian Jones. Just my opinion. But Tommy does have an excelelnt point. Lots of people got pencil whipped or ripped off. And it ain't cool. A shame that The band didn't credit all 5 members to all of their material! The Doors did it (except for a short time), Van Halen did it. No real link to The Band there, but it is a shame for someone to be excluded from receiving their due credit.

Mike

Posted on Sun Oct 21 07:12:40 CEST 2001 from (64.230.39.224)

brown eyed girl

OBSERVATIONS AND HIGHLIGHTS.......THE CONCERT FOR NYC......FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS ROCK OUT!!!!

Who said white men can't jump? Pete Townshend and Mick Jagger can jump!

Who said real men can't wear pink shirts? Mick Jagger wears pink shirts and can really get it going on stage! He was bouncing soooooo much in MISSING YOU.........I guess his father really did teach him discipline as a gym teacher to always be physically fit.........alternative to white powders........

Howard Stern wears a Marilyn Manson jumpsuit.......

George W. Bush......sings a line from ROCK THE CASBAH BY THE CLASH!!!!

Richard Gere......studied philosophy at Syracuse......:-DDD......It's alright.......There will always be violent opposition from mediocre minds.......

...unlike the terrorists
we hold life sacred....
when we stop doing that....
we become like the terrorists.....

Posted on Sat Oct 20 23:56:24 CEST 2001 from (65.3.255.9)

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

You sock it to 'em Chris!!! "RIGHT ON"

Posted on Sat Oct 20 22:35:21 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.31)

Tommy

I've also heard some stories to the effect of Mick & Keef not giving deserved songwriting credits to Ronnie Wood and Billy Preston.Anyone hear or know these stories,and can share them with us...cause maybe I'm wrong.I hope I am..cause that shit ain't cool.

Posted on Sat Oct 20 20:46:26 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.154)

Dave Z

Been away busy for a little while... and gotta go again real soon but just wanted to stop in and pipe up... and say thanks to Steve S. again for sharing another great Garth story... and then add my seconds for Kay R. and Joe L. for the recent BBs review... nice posting guys...

Lil': my wife gets upset with me because I won't let her kill the spiders we find... and have taught the twins to get a piece of toilet paper... to give them a magic carpet ride right outside the back door... besides, it's the job of my cat (Zoie The Tigerlily Weissman Chorn Zuck) to get the bugs that need to be gotten... If she doesn't earn her keep... well, her name might just get a little longer yet...

Posted on Sat Oct 20 19:26:43 CEST 2001 from (205.188.200.156)

Calvin

The Dead usually did tour with good supporting Acts, Ive never been a big Dead fan, but I did see them on one of the last multi-acts big concerts, in the mid 80s they went out with Dylan and Tom Petty. I wish I could say I enjoyed it more, but it was probably the worst Dylan performance Ive ever seen.

Posted on Sat Oct 20 18:50:06 CEST 2001 from (205.188.195.37)

Calvin

You raised an interesting point Chris, being you saw the Band in the mid 90s as an opener, not a good show, but at least they were the Band. Ray Davies has said when Pete Quaife quit the Kinks round about 1970 the Kinks ended, he has just used the name since then. The Band is a unique outfit. I always felt, and still do, that the Band would have never reached their position in R&R without RR, and too a lesser extend Garth and Levon. I don't mean this too sound bad but they probably could have survived sans RIck or Richard in their classic era. Still, the Band put out 3 solid albums without RR and Richard, and while not great they were, IMHO, better than Islands or Cahoots, or for that matter Moondog Matinee which I know a lot of people loved. In my usual view of music Levon, Garth and Rick arent really the Band, without Richard and RR, especially as the primary, by a lot, songwriter was no longer there. Yet as you say Chris, they were the Band, or at least a damn good group. So, too end my rambling post, what constitutes a group still being a group, and why does the Band seems to be able to get past my restrictive view.

Posted on Sat Oct 20 17:40:34 CEST 2001 from (64.230.32.126)

brown eyed girl

JOHNNY WINTER AND

THE ROCK AND ROLL ANIMAL

the first 8 tracks bought

(another haiku for The Crabster ;-D)

October 21 in Toronto.....MUSIC WITHOUT BORDERS LIVE.....United Nations Donor Alert Appeal Benefit by CANADIAN BANDS......

Bruuuuuuce Cockburn
Tragically Hip
Alanis Morrisette
Our Lady Peace

Posted on Sat Oct 20 17:23:50 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.208)

Calvin

A very Good point about opening acts Peter, Usually you don't see tickets with the announcement THE Kinks, with special guest the Fabolous Thunderbirds, Or Tommy Shaw, or The ROmantics (All concerts Ive been to BTW), But id think it would be helpful to the concert goer and to the venue. I saw The Kinks have Tommy Shaw opening for them in Cincy about 10-12 years back, I didnt see a Styx T-shirt in the crowd, yet Im sure they would have been there if they had known Shaw was the opening act. After thinking it over Ive come to believe the Venues and promoters actually slight themselves in this practice,

Posted on Sat Oct 20 16:46:04 CEST 2001 from (205.186.205.40)

Chris

The Dead never failed to deliver a hot opener at Soldier Field...in order...'93 Sting, '94 Traffic, '95 The Band. There have been claims that the set was not great for The Band that year but, they were definitely THE BAND.

Posted on Sat Oct 20 15:56:23 CEST 2001 from (205.188.196.52)

Brien Sz

Long D O: The tour you are refering to SRV/Beck was a tour in which the acts alternated opening billing. I saw the same tour and Beck opened for SRV. And you are right, it was one of my top 3 best concerts ever. The Band at Caldwell College (outdoor show) in 84 or 85 was the best and Bonnie Raitt opened was my best ever. Stevie Ray was the best opening act i saw, as he opened for the Moody Blues in 82 i believe. SRV had just released the single Pride and Joy. I also saw REM open for the Police at Shea Stadium - they did a twenty minute set, that wasn't all that impressive.

Posted on Sat Oct 20 15:40:33 CEST 2001 from (64.230.32.126)

brown eyed girl

HEY JUDE THE BEATLES

WHOLE LOTTA LOVE blasts at home

CHAMBERS BROTHERS too

(First 45's bought Haiku :-D Crabby)

Posted on Sat Oct 20 13:26:50 CEST 2001 from (64.80.53.104)

Diamond Lil

Some uplifting, music-related stories in NY : Paul McCartney visited firehouses yesterday in NYC, handing out tickets to tonight's huuuuge you-name-em-and-they'll-probably-be-there benefit concert at Madison Square Garden. What a nice gesture! Noone deserves a night of music right now more than the NYC firefighters.

Some tickets for tonight's concert (priced at $2000 apiece..._all_ proceeds going to the WTC fund) were purchased by NYC based companies and distributed to hospital and emergency personnel. Another very nice gesture I think. What could be a better way to say "thank you" than the gift of the healing of music?

On a small, personal note..having nothing to do with music what-so-ever (unless you hum 'the itsy-bitsy spider' while reading this portion of my post)..a little bit of levity from ym house this morning.
My 17 year old son (who is always making fun of my fear of mice)..is terrified of spiders. So this morning..he finds a semi-big wood spider..in his jeans..as he was putting them on. I hear this enormous ruckus from upstairs..and then I see a pair of pants come flying down the stairs..followed by my son..who lands on them and is seemingly trying to stomp them to shreds.
"What _are_ you doing?" I ask him.
"Killing a spider", he says.
"Uh-huh" I say, trying not to laugh.
"Mommy" (what I am called in times of panic or money-wanting), "It won't die".
"Stomp harder", I tell him..and now I'm laughing. He did..and the spider finally expired. Of course, the he wouldn't wear the pants because there was a _dead_ spider in them :-)

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Sat Oct 20 07:47:14 CEST 2001 from (63.25.9.85)

rollie

"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."---Hunter s Thompson

Posted on Sat Oct 20 06:24:40 CEST 2001 from (63.46.55.161)

Crabgrass

moderation...

migration...

what's next???

[the above is not a haiku]

Posted on Sat Oct 20 04:07:19 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.177)

Jtull fan

Bayou Sam: Last night was a nailbiter but what a game! I am worried about El Duke but at least we have the Rocket going on Sunday. (Talking Yankees baseball for all you non-aficionados)Peter Viney: Spent time at a great bar in Minneapolis called 'The Brit' and thought of you. Boddingtons on tap! All in all I was terrified to fly again. It was unsettling to see the National Guardsmen with machine guns at all the airports, yet I am so glad in retrospect that I went. I feel like I just thumbed my nose at the *%#$!@!*&! terrorists and stood with all those hurt by their acts. It was amazing how kind people were to each other; there was a real feeling of solidarity. I had the odd experience of sitting next to a stranger who I sat next to on a previous flight (not even from my hometown) and we caught up on things like baseball, etc. It reminded me how likely it was that I sat next to some who perished on the flights of 9/11 at some time or other. I am looking forward to McCartney's concert (although the GAME will be on as well). Any thoughts on that people?

Posted on Sat Oct 20 03:36:34 CEST 2001 from (24.4.255.170)

Rob Johnson

As a former Air Force brat, I've lived in a lot of places. The one thing that makes me realize I'm in America is the music of the Band. Right now, you can't get "Whispering Pines" out of my head, or off my CD player.

Posted on Sat Oct 20 02:09:32 CEST 2001 from (152.163.204.83)

Rick S.

Kay Roybal- thanks for the great article about the Helena concert. You write so well. Too bad you weren't in the Pinetop Perkins picture. Thanks for being our eyes and ears.

Posted on Sat Oct 20 01:18:30 CEST 2001 from (64.230.39.249)

brown eyed girl

FREE CONCERTS

Tiger in Kingston, Jamaica
Blue Rodeo in Toronto
Big Sea in Toronto
The McGarrigle Sisters in Toronto
Bodeans in Toronto
The Staple Singers in Toronto
Judy Mowat of Marley's I-Threes in Toronto
Diana King in NYC

BEST OPENING ACT

Ani DiFranco opens for Dylan
Bonnie Raitt opens for Eric Clapton......They even perform a number together where Bonnie plays sssssssslide

BEST DOUBLE BILL

Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan......Dream Duo.....Dylan and Van (OK..Robbie can play guitar:-D)

FIRST CLUB AND ACT I CHECKED OUT IN TORONTO.....The Colonial......Mighty Clouds of Joy

Posted on Sat Oct 20 01:12:49 CEST 2001 from (24.164.173.109)

Tom/Woodstock Records

Hello All - Just a quick note :

Woodstock Records and Breeze Hill Records have merged.

Secure online ordering will now be handled by and at www.woodstockrecords.com.

Thanks! Tom/Woodstock Records

Posted on Fri Oct 19 22:35:05 CEST 2001 from (152.163.201.198)

Brien Sz

While in Maine this summer, i found a nice little "used book shop" tucked away in an obscure coastal town. I was lucky enough to sneak off with what i believe is a first edition print of Winston Churchills, The Gathering Storm. An absolutly brilliant man with scary insight and a not ashamed to pat himself on the back about it. Anyway I was just thinking what his course of action would be in light of our current "war on terrorism" situation AND I wonder if there are any reknowned figures on our landscape who have been warning of such troubles but have been put aside because of economic boom of the past and our doveish attitude of the last 8 years.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 22:27:47 CEST 2001 from (24.218.186.92)

Long Distance Operator

Wow! The first thing I will do after this post is log onto Amazon and try to find the Johnny Jenkins album that David Powell described. Sounds delicious!

Great opening bands thread: Stevie Ray Vaughan opening for Jeff Beck in 1990. Still the best show I have ever seen, or will ever see.

oh

My

GOD!!!

Posted on Fri Oct 19 21:09:11 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.29)

Peter Viney

Support acts: Nothing against them. As I posted recently, America (supporting King Crimson the first time out) were a wonderful support act. BUT they should be billed. They should tell the audience who they are, too.

Illka- that proves my point. It all got sorted out in 1854, and has there been any trouble between Britain and the Aland Islands since 1854? No, absolutely none. : - ) In the interests of history I looked this up in the Brittanica (which may not be the ultimate unbiased source). These Swedish-speaking islands were forcibly occupied by Russia in 1714. Russia officially had them ceded in 1809 (when they also grabbed The Grand Duchy of Finland) on condition that they remain neutral and never be fortified. The emergent Russia of the mid 19th century built a fortress there. During the Crimean war, an Anglo-French coalition (not just the English) attacked the Russian fortress in 1854. Sensible use of force. In the peace treaty, Britain & France insisted the islands never be fortified again. In 1917 (against the wishes of the islanders who wished to join Sweden) they were ceded to Finland. Main point, the Anglo-French force was attacking the Russian occupying forces, not Finland or Sweden. A bit like how we were attacking Iraq not Kuwait in the Gulf war, though the activity was on Kuwaiti soil mainly. How history pursues us.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 18:07:47 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.206)

bob wigo

Attention all John Hiatt fans....

WXPN Philadelphia will broadcast John Hiatt and the Goners today, 10/19 at 2:00 PM EST. You can stream it directly from their site which I've included. Enjoy!!!

Posted on Fri Oct 19 17:27:23 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Gilded Splinters Twice Redux-ed

When Dr. John released his break-through "Gris-gris" album in 1968, the music world, including Atlantic Records president Amhet Ertegun, didn't know what to make of this strange sounding gumbo mixture of music. There was an other-worldly quality to Mac Rebennack's swamp-hoodoo jazz-funk grooves. This splendid album closed with the magnificent "I Walk On Gilded Splinters", a song which like its title sends chills down the spine.

In 1970, soul singer Johnny Jenkins included a fine cover of "Gilded Splinters" on his Capricorn album, "Ton-Ton Macoute!", which featured various members of the Allman Brothers Band and Muscle Shoals musicians. This version was built around a hypnotic rhythm track (recorded live in the studio) by Butch Trucks on drums and Jaimoe on timbale, accented by Duane Allman's tasty Dobro licks.

Prior to this recording, Mr. Jenkins' great claim to fame in the world of music was that Otis Redding had been "discovered" working with Jenkins' Soul Stirrers band. His "Ton-Ton Macoute!" album, which originally started off as solo project by brother Duane, was a perfect example of the blend of music that Capricorn's Phil Walden putting together in Macon, Georgia at that time -- a high-octane hybrid of old soul & blues mixed with the more adventuresome approach of modern intrumentation. In addition to "Gilded Splinters", another highlight from "Ton-Ton Macoute!" is a version of Dylan's "Down Along The Cove" propelled by Duane's scorching slide guitar.

Band fans will recall that Duane's sizzling fret-work also drove two different covers of "The Weight", recorded by both Aretha Franklin and King Curtis. Duane also recorded some sessions with Ronnie Hawkins in Muscle Shoals, which most notably produced a great version of "Down In The Alley".

In 1994, the ears of music world were, once again, tuned into a new sound by an artist who called himself Beck. Some, however, may have noticed that his radical, first big hit, "(I'm A) Loser", had a familiar ring to it. That was because it was built around a drum loop that sampled Butch Trucks from the version of "Gilded Splinters" recorded with Johnny Jenkins. Even the slide guitar in the Beck song was patterned on Duane's licks from "Gilded Splinters"!

Posted on Fri Oct 19 17:25:38 CEST 2001 from (64.12.102.168)

butch

just a last minute reminder,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Levon & The Barn Burners,,,,,,,

tonight, Friday, October 19th,,,, 7 pm & 9:30 pm,,,,,,,,

The Van Dyck Schenectady, NY ( near albany )

See Ya'll There,,,,,,

GO YANKEES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on Fri Oct 19 17:16:29 CEST 2001 from (203.59.153.14)

Nancy

The answer to the most musicians acting in a single film guestion WAS "The Blues Brothers". Congrats to Bob Wigo who answered it first!

This film had a strong following here in Oz and people used to have Blues Brothers parties.....you know, rent the movie, everyone would come to party dressed in hats and black suits from the opportunity shop, and the volume on the TV would get turned up high as it would go to really PISS THE NEIGHBOURS OFF!!! It was a time honoured Australian tradition for awhile.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 16:27:45 CEST 2001 from (208.16.227.169)

Mike

Tommy, I'm still here. Sorry for the delay and absence. The comp crashed and had to get it repaired. Yes, I'm still interested in the trade. I didn't forget about ya :) \Someone here mentioned The Blues Brothers with musicians as actors. Don't forget Blues brothers 2000. Dumb movie but nice all star jam at the end (BB King, Jimmie Vaughn, Eric Clapton, Steve Winwood, Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, Charlie Musselwhite, and many others). Uh oh, gotta run. The bank opens soon! Peace.

Mike

Posted on Fri Oct 19 15:51:32 CEST 2001 from (24.159.100.75)

Don Pugatch

The Academy Award for Rockers in a movie, Burton Cummings, not to stereotype, but with Burton being a Canadian, you can guess the type of movie........, no not beer,,,,, Hockey. I think the award ceremony for his preformance was pre empted by the Stanley Cup or something.

Crabby, see Richard Thompson is touring in the NY area, and also has a compliation CD coming out too. Once again, music, healing the soul.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 15:32:05 CEST 2001 from (159.105.102.5)

John Cass

Getting back to opening act I saw a great bluesman open up for Joe Cocker at the Palace Theatre in Albany NY back I think in 94 or 95, he was playing acoustic blues accompying himself on Harmonica, I remember thinking this guy is great! as it turned out it was KEB MOE, since that day I have been a big fan and have seen KEB's own headlining shows a bunch of times. Now of course he has his own band. Also I saw Johnny Lang open up for the Blues Travelers, I for one like opening acts when they charge you $50+ dollors for a ticket the least they can do is offer a opening band. It is just to bad most opening bands aren't that good bring back the days of the Watkin's Glen type shows Allmans, Dead, and The Band what a line up that was!!!

What are some great shows that some of you GBers have seen.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 14:27:08 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Re: support acts getting their names out. That's what the front head of the bass drum is for! I don't know how many bands I've seen that didn't do that, but it's such an easy way to get the name out there. Even Ringo Starr, the world's most famous drummer, did it. (It's interesting to see photos of the logo changing. In the early days, it was in script, and the "B" had antennae sticking up. Then it became the classic block letters. For "Magical Mystery Tour" he had the head repainted psychedelic red-and-yellow - to go with George's psychedelic guitar I guess - but it still had the band name.)

Dino Danelli, when his band got "Young" stuck onto their name by their management, used to just put "Rascals" on his drum, to show what the group's "real" name was. (Funny, Levon never put "The Band" on his drum either... I guess they were headliners before they ever started touring.

Peter Viney's singer/songwriter should have painted her name on the guitar, or had it inlayed in the neck (this is also a great way to prevent your instrument from being stolen.)

Posted on Fri Oct 19 13:31:55 CEST 2001 from (24.2.9.42)

Craig

G Man- saw your reference to the Tralf. Love the place. Great sound, staff and artists. Saw Little Feat there a couple of months ago and am going on Nov 1 to my annual Tower of Power two shows. I really want to go to see the Tower of Power of the Blues, "Roomful of Blues" this Sat but my better half has prevailed.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 13:28:32 CEST 2001 from (130.241.86.163)

Markku (Quos)

... a movie with musicians acting, actors being musicians... could that be The Blues Brothers?

A few other musicians in films not already mentioned: Brian Setzer (playing Eddie Cochran in La Bamba), Tom Petty (in Postman), Mickey Jones (hey, a The Band connection!), Tina Turner (in Mad Max), Roger Daltrey (guite a few movies), and Aimee Mann (sort of).

Posted on Fri Oct 19 09:56:01 CEST 2001 from (195.100.4.104)

Ilkka

I have - more or less - migrated to other web sites. However, PETER VINEY's hawkish - or was it Hawkish (sic!) - post caught my eye in the archives and made me remember the song classes back in the elementary school days. The following song was always the ultimate climax:

THE ALAND ISLANDS WAR (Oolannin sota)

The Aland Islands War was such an awful war
- hooray-hooray-hooray
When the Englismen sailed with 300 ships to the Finnish coast
- sumfra-tra-la-la-la-la, sumfra-tra-la-la-la-la
hooray - HOORAY - H O O R A Y !!!!!!

Footnote: Aland Islands is a small group of demilitarized islands with autonomy in the Baltic Sea and these battles were a part of the Krim War 1853-56.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 07:11:25 CEST 2001 from (152.163.213.52)

Gordon Klauber

The site's wonderful and has some great leads on finding things not readily found in the stores. Any leads on how to get a hold of "The Complete Last Waltz" in the NY area? I saw it once years ago when I was living in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. Please drop me a line and thanks for your assistance.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 05:11:21 CEST 2001 from (64.230.43.143)

brown eyed girl

HANK: Bobby Neuwirth....scenemaker, musician, painter....LAST DAY ON EARTH, a recording of collaborations with John Cale of VELVET UNDERGROUND.

Gary Busey and Ice T (Tracy Marrow).....Some of the students at my school worked on JACOB TWO TWO MEETS THE HOODED FANG (1999)
Bette Midler: The Rose, etc.
Ice Cube (O'Shea Jackson): Boyz N The Hood, Higher Learning, Ana Conda, The Player's Club, Three Kings
Debbie Harry....Union City, Videodrome
John Doe
Whitney Houston
Nico....Most famous for her walk-on in Fellini's La Dolce Vita
David Johansen....Car 54, Where Are You?, Scrooged
David Bowie....The Man Who Fell To Earth, The Hunger
Marianne Faithfull

An interview with Marianne Faithfull on song credits

Victor Bockris: How was "Sister Morphine" actually written?

Faithfull: Mick Jagger had the tune and was playing it around the house we lived in in London, in Cheyne Walk, in the sixties. I never would have imposed myself on the tune if he had done anything with it. But it never seemed to happen, and I got to like the tune. Then I got impatient, so I sat down and wrote the words.

Bockris: Did Keith Richards write the music?

Faithfull: No. Keith Richards didn't have anything to do with it, as such. What he did, which is good, was write to Allen Klein (ex-manager of The Rolling Stones) to tell him that I had written the words; otherwise, I would not have gotten any of the money. But what I want now is the credit.

Bockris: Why didn't you get the credit? Was that just the way things worked in those days? The Stones put only their names on the material?

Faithfull: You'd have to ask Mick Jagger that. It's an odd thing. I wrote the words, I did the work; why didn't I get the credit?

Bockris: Did you make formal attempts to get it?

Faithfull: Well, I don't know if I did actually. It's only slowly that I've come to realize that I deserved the credit. I know I wrote the song, but I was in such a lowly place that I was just pleased when I got the money.....On my record of course, it says, Jagger/Richards/Faithfull......

Bockris: Why did Keith write the letter to Allen Klein? Why didn't Jagger write it?

Faithfull: ARE YOU MAD?

Bockris: It's interesting that Richards did that.

Faithfull: Yes, of course. Richards is..........He didn't go as far as he might have; if he'd done the right thing he'd have said, "Give her the money and the credit." Of course he couldn't do that.........

Faithfull on Otis Redding and song credits: I once went to an Otis Redding concert in London. I went with Keith Richards, and it was a wonderful show. It was announced that Redding was going to sing a song that he had written, and he sang SATISFACTION. Incredibly brilliant....and I said to Redding, "How could you say that you wrote SATISFACTION"? Otis Redding insisted, and he did not back down, that he wrote it.".....It is interesting to note here that a long time ago when I heard this song on the radio......the DJ announced that Otis did indeed write this song but when he was very down and out......he sold the song to Jagger/Richards for 5000.00............

Posted on Fri Oct 19 04:52:44 CEST 2001 from (24.164.174.169)

Dennis

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Posted on Fri Oct 19 04:52:52 CEST 2001 from (205.188.195.46)

Bayou Sam

I got a movie with musicians doing a pretty lame acting job = Two Lane Blacktop, with Dennis Wilson and James Taylor.

The first movie that comes to mind with alot of musicians - and great ones at that - was The Blus Brothers. The scenes with Aretha, Ray Charles, John Lee, and Cab Calloway are great. Also, the Blues Brothers band was a hell of a group of players. They should have written Levon into that film. He would have been great.

Gotta run - the Yankee game is getting intense.

Posted on Fri Oct 19 00:24:51 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

G-Man: Where did you see Jimmie Vaughan and Lou Ann Barton? I have seen Jimmie several times.I loved him with the Fabulous Thunderbirds..."Tuff Enough" is one of my all time favorite albums. I saw him twice at Antone's in Austin...w/ the Sun Records Recording Artists...another night he joined Buddy Guy on stage for a couple of songs. Lou Ann Barton was also there that night. I drove from Dallas to Austin to see Buddy Guy, by myself....I was under age and had no idea if they would let me in or not. They didn't even card me. Buddy played until four in the morning to a packed house...that is one of those nights I'll never forget...second only to seeing Levon LIVE!!!

Posted on Fri Oct 19 00:04:43 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.31)

Calvin

I have to disagree with you about opening acts Peter, one of my most enjoyable concert experiences was seeing Warren Zevon openening for Stevie Nicks, a concert I was drug to. BR5-49 opening for Dylan a few years ago also opened my eyes to someone new. Opening acts can introduce you to people that otherwise you'd never had come across. Granted most are simply fodder, but Ive seen to many solid acts to jettison the whole concept.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 23:25:51 CEST 2001 from (63.25.9.25)

Furtado at last

To all of those folks who've been wanting to hear Tony Furtado live, hears:) your chance. His performance from this years Telluride Blues Fest will be broadcast on the Beale St. Caravan Blues show sometime in Nov. I believe this will be on NPR? Somebody help me here......The legendary Billy Rich (from the Butterfield Better Days Band ) was on bass, and Gawain Matthews on guitar. His regular drummer couldn't make it due to the WTC disaster, but Ricardo Gonzales filled in nicely at the last minute. (No small feat with Tonys compositions!). Rounding out the show on harmonica on a few tunes was some geek from the guestbook. He completely stepped on the first tune, and barely saved face on the 2nd and 3rd tunes. So for all those who want to hear what THIS geek might sound like live.............Tune in to Beale St. Caravan sometime in Nov. Other peerformances:) from the sunday show were Taj Mahal and James Brown.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 22:18:16 CEST 2001 from (152.163.204.184)

Calvin

Wilco Similarities to the Band? WOuld that Make Jay Farrar their verison of RR? Im actually going to see Jay in a few weeks, solo though, SOn Volt isnt with him. What did you think of Uncle Tupelo Chris? Basically Wilco with Jay sharing the songwriting and singing with Jeff. And youre right, Being there is one of the great albums of the 90s.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 22:12:02 CEST 2001 from (206.77.150.207)

pehr

Gman: Do you mean Lou Ann Barton? I had the pleasure of watching the Keller Bros. work their way up for years at Antones club. I'm glad to hear they are doing well. Thanks for cheerin em on.

Whilst going on about musician-actors (sounds like singer-songwriter in a way) the Bob Dylan backstage scene was right out of "Renaldo y Clara" where Ronnie Hawkins was denied stage access when the stage hand told him "You aren't Bob Dylan"

Posted on Thu Oct 18 21:27:26 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.38)

Peter Viney

Related artists: Good to see Dr John last night with the great “Creole Moon” album backing group. I was especially thrilled at a 15 minute “Walk on Gilded Splinters” and “Such A Night” as an encore. The guitar player, Renard Poché was a joy to watch. Afro hair, black and white floral flares, fuzz box, wah-wah, vocoder effect, never a smile. He looked and sounded as if he’d stepped out of early Funkadelic. Disappointing was the sound balance. It’s hard in a 1920s theatre (with empty balcony and only half full downstairs), but so often shows indicate a lack of competence or care from the sound guys. Roscoe’s drums were well-amplified, as was the guitar (which had a small Fender amp fed into the PA with a mic). Paul Barard, the bass player is incredibly good (check the album) and it was a pity his sound was so muddy and blurred, though that could be the instrument or his own amp as he was the only one not controlled by the PA. I was third row from the front, and perhaps it sounded OK at the back where the console was. But Dr John’s mic was harsh and sibillant too and probably pushing just 10% too loud so it was on the edge of going over. The hall has a lot of reverberation, but Van usually gets over it (a bigger audience helps of course). I admit I wasn’t totally in the mood – the news of the assassination in Israel had left me feeling, ‘Oh, no, when is all this ever going to stop?’ I loved a lot of the Dr’s act, but I noticed the brightest spots were the Duke Ellington stuff, covers like ‘Cottonfields / Goodnight Irene’ and ‘Candy’ and the really old ‘Gilded Splinters.’ The issue I think is that the Dr’s boogie playing and charisma are without fault, but some of his own material is too samey … and to be brutally honest, slightly dull. Great, great playing from all concerned. Lacking in melody. That was a fault the 90s Band sometimes showed when avoiding Robbie’s material.

Highly professional show, exactly 90 minutes to the second without encore, this guy knows his contract. He also knows that you add the encore to the 90 minute contract, unlike so many who include it. My usual grumble though. The tickets said “Doors open 7pm” which is a weird message with numbered seats. An apology on the door said “concert at 8 pm”. Then there’s a very nervous young woman singer songwriter for 30 minutes. Good effort, but not what you’d come to see. Then you get the 30 minute interval (only one mic and one monitor needed shifting). Then you get the 90 minute concert 9 pm to 10.30 pm. I’d rather have arrived at five to nine and missed the first hour. (Into repeat mode), you don’t go to see a theatre company and get an unbilled extra play for half an hour followed by a long interval before the event. Intervals are because you need a break, a drink and a pee, which you shouldn’t after 30 minutes. I applaud Van the Man, Paul Simon, and Michelle Shocked all of whom have ditched this unnecessary nonsense and gone straight to the main event (and added a half hour to the 90 minute standard into the bargain). Promoters take note. I know that support spots give new artists a chance (and I’ve seen some memorable ones) but they should be billed. As ever, last night’s said her name twice. Once in the opening applause. Once in the closing applause. I didn’t catch it either time. Serious error when you’re getting unbilled exposure. I also know that for many artists T-shirts and CDs make more profit than the show, and there were none on sale for either Dr John or the anonymous lady. For the support artist, a CD on sale outside is basic common sense, (a) she might have sold a few (b) they’d have her name on.

Matt K – keep talking to us. Friends don’t have to agree on everything.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 20:16:38 CEST 2001 from (65.164.8.8)

G-MAN

Band connection!! Saw Jimmy Vaughan last nite,,,,very good,,,but not a moover of a show!! Best part was Betty Lou Martin,,,been around awhile-real RR woman!!! Can still belt out a tune!! Saw here on an '86 video of the King Biscuit show with Levon, Jim Weider, Rando, Roger Mason, and the GREAT Stan Szelest!! Well, she still has what it takes!! Keller Bros Band opened!! All 20-21..looked like the Hansen Bros.,,,,but those boys really rocked the Tralf!!! Bass bro. couldda swayed the George Washington Bridge-definitely DANKOESQUE! The guns on drums and lead guitar shared on the vocals.....reminded me of the N. Miss. All-Stars..power packin group! Look for the Keller Bros. Band....must see group!!!

Posted on Thu Oct 18 20:16:22 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.214)

bob wigo

Anyone here know how to contact Billy Joel's current management? Please email me directly if you can help. Thanks.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 19:48:15 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.197)

Tommy

Jeff Tweedy is in a band called GOLDEN SMOG,with members of the Jayhawks and Soul Asylum.It's a cool, loose,70's style(for lack of a better description) group.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 19:31:01 CEST 2001 from (147.26.108.232)

Pehr

I love the Blues Aid Photos and the picture of Joe L. visiting Marvell. I am grateful for moments of peace and pictures of happiness in this world today. thanks for sharing them.

MattK I'm sorry if I zipped you off a while back. I didn't mean Ghandi was "Passe" exactly... But a US hunger strike would be rather weird way to appeal to these terrorists. Since my last post on that issue I've learned alot of other things,totally more confused than ever, and maybe in 3or 4 years I'll know enough to comment again at that point. Like you I dont have alot to say about the Band either but appreciate their timeless, great music as a rock to cling to whjile more or less adrift.I am grateful for having a community of GB fans to relate to as well. We are all very confused about this of course and It is a paradigm shift of massive proportions, everything is gonna be upside down and all we can do is take it one day at a time and do what we can. I hope you hang around,I always enjoy hearing what you have to say whether I agree or not. Same with my GB buddy Crabby. \

I gotta say I am in love with the NLSC re ish. Rick ending the record is so sweet.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 18:02:11 CEST 2001 from (64.24.177.127)

to rollie

I'll be sure to tell them that no one's going to show up! :)

Posted on Thu Oct 18 17:07:28 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

I just completely enjoyed Paul McCartney on Howard Stern. Funny stuff. Paul is still great. Played a couple of the new tunes, and I have to say I loved them. I asked here the other day if anyone had heard the new stuff. What about it anyone here his new stuff yet?

Posted on Thu Oct 18 17:04:08 CEST 2001 from (166.90.65.88)

Pat Brennan

The economic expansion of the 90's ocurred as the US cut back on military expenditures, even as the government was being warned that actions by Osama bin Laden would increase. It was he who goaded us into this response.

To keep your perspective, 9/11 is now the bloodiest day in American history, beating out the Civil War battle of Antietam.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 16:47:47 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

An actor who was also a credible musician, who first gained fame in a break-through film role portraying a musician is of course Gary Busey. As a drummer, he used the name Teddy Jack Eddy. There's a Band connection through his appearance in Robbie Robertson's "Carny" in 1980. Earlier he also was among the "cast of thousands" of musicians playing on Kinky Friedman's 1976 album "Lasso From El Paso" (along with Rick, Levon & Richard).

By the way, in addition to Mr. Busey's title role in "The Buddy Holly Story" (1978), the movie also included real life musicians Richie Hayward (of Little Feat), Buddy Miles, David Miner and John Jarvis playing the roles of tour musicians.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 15:50:30 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Hey All:

Calvin: I must have missed the Wilco discussion. "My retrievable memory is not what it should be." But I am glad to hear that people like Wilco. I think the double album "Being There" is really fantastic. "Sunken Treasure", "Misunderstood", and "Someone Else's Song" are really fine pieces of music. I also like the story of the band. Some real similarities to The Band.

My comment on Going Home was just a joke. A joke I say. A joke. I know that the best job of acting Robbie ever did was in front of the microphone during The Last Waltz.

Nancy: What about Renaldo and Clara?

Posted on Thu Oct 18 14:32:47 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Wow, Robbie's new discovery must be something if she's already got a tribute album... :)

Posted on Thu Oct 18 14:00:40 CEST 2001 from (216.179.1.132)

Gene

Musicians in film - I thought Art Garfunkel was pretty good in 'Carnal Knowledge'...

Posted on Thu Oct 18 13:54:34 CEST 2001 from (203.59.153.174)

Nancy

The thread of musicians and singers moonlighting as actors hasn't quite unravelled yet .........

No-one has mentioned the movie that contained MORE musicians than any other, at least that I know of. As well as having musicians acting, it also contains actors being musicians. Which movie is it?????????

No rewards or incentives offered for the right answer, just satisfaction in knowing how clever you are :)

Posted on Thu Oct 18 13:24:32 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.119)

Lil Again

Just clicked on "what's new" before running out the door here, and wanted to say thanks to Kay Roybal for that wonderful article (and great photos!) of the blues aid festival in Arkansas. Wish I could've been there.

I owe, I owe, so off to work I go....

Posted on Thu Oct 18 12:56:10 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.57)

Hank

I forgot to mention last night that Ronnie Hawkins features in this months Mojo magazine. He's the subject of Pete Frames Rock Family Tree and he's also quoted somewhere else in the magazine as saying when Lincoln said all men were created equal he obviously hadn't seen Bo Diddley in a shower......

Well, Okay.......

I read a headline in The Irish Times yesterday which said the rebuilding of Afghanistan could take 10 years..........handy work for someone in the future, I guess.....handy money, too for the companies that get the gig.......Bruce was TOTALLY wrong to cover that song......and Edwin Starr was foolish to write it....

."War!! What is it Good for?...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!'.....

Well, Bruce, that's just not true......war gets economies floating again........Arm yer disillusioned people to the teeth and then wait for them to commit an atrocity.......GOAD them into it, in fact.....and THEN hammer the shit out of them......THEN rebuild and develope the real estate.....That's how The USA was built, in fact....ask any descendant of the natives...ask Robbie Robertson.....Thanksgiving should be very interesting in The USA this year....The first Thanksgiving was all about getting together with the natives and giving praise for getting thru hard times.......I call for the very same be done THIS year.....George W. Bush should hang out with Native American Leaders on TV, apologise on behalf of the nation and the world for screwing them over for centuries and ask them how best to defend and protect the fair land, the beautiful continent that is North America.........They won't tho', will they?....it'll be too much dead turkey, 5 varieties of cranberry sauce, football, watching bombing raids in Asia and Anthrax information programs..... A re-run of TLW if we're lucky.......... (and don't anybody give me a hard time for being in Ireland and writing this....I was in NYC earlier this year and I went to PS 191 in Queens, NYC from 1968 to 1974......I KNOW what I'm sayin and I Know what I mean. I'm horrified at what has been done to the USA. )

War also censors useless and dangerous information and makes meaningless all yer Marilyn Mansons and Slim Shadys and Jerry Springers ......Who CARES about all that pathetic uselessness now? I'd like to see Marilyn wipe his ass with Old Glory on stage NOW like he used to before Sept. 11......... Jeez, we're all scared of YOU, Marilyn.....you're SO rebellious...O no! Wait a minute! Who's this dude with a beard and turban? Sorry, Marilyn, Bin Laden is the one we're REALLY scared of now. Marilyn will probably end up singing 'God Bless America' at MSG with Bruce, arm in arm, this Saturday night........

So, yeah, this new war is very handy to rid the world of all the useless music and entertainment it produces......no more movies about ragheads hi-jacking planes with Bruce Willis or Arnie saving the day.....it's all over now, baby blue..........

Sorry, folks, I KNOW there's been much suffering and confusion over the past while but we must always be on our guard for those who deliberatly unleash The Dogs of War on our world.....these people are evil and would sacrifice their own families to make a point or facilitate someone making a profit.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 12:35:15 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.189)

Diamond Lil

Wonder if anyone out there can help me find a tune I've been looking for for years. I heard it probably about 7 or 8 years ago on WDST radio from Woodstock. The only things I know about it are it was a _live_ recording..and the title was something like "Will work for food". I've called WDST many times since then..but noone there seems to know it or remember it. Perhaps it was a local band and I caught it on a whim..I don't know. I would very much like to get a copy of it if anyone out there has any idea who did it and where to find it. I've found in the past, that you guys here are a better source for this kind of stuff than anywhere else. Thanks.

Have a good day everyone.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 12:00:07 CEST 2001 from (64.230.32.108)

brown eyed girl

When I saw in the WHAT'S NEW section that Nicky Lowe has a new tribute album LABOUR OF LOVE which also features Levon Helm............again pleasant memories flashed before me.........I saw Lowe........."got to be cruel to be kind"...........at Massey Hall in Toronto on the same bill as Elvis Costello........and one of my all time fav New York bands from the seventies.......They had a Latin street edge but Willy's lyrics were that of a die-hard romantic.........MINK DEVILLE.......Willy Deville still performs.......but it seems like European audiences seem to appreciate him more since his band split up........his song CHEMICAL WARFARE......from BACKSTREETS OF DESIRE..........Very eerie hearing children singing CHEMICAL WARFARE in the background........

CUPID: You are right! I have become a downloading monster! I now have about 1800 songs downloaded........I'm also listening to a lot of Ben Harper, Gil Scott Heron and of course Bob Marley during times like these..........

Guiltiness shall rest on their conscience...
These are the big fish
Who always try to beat down the small fish
They would do anything
To materialize their every wish...
Woe to the downpressor
They'll eat the bread of sad tomorrow....GUILTINESS

Babylon system is the vampire
Sucking the blood of the sufferers....BABYLON SYSTEM

There's a natural mystic flowing through the air
If you listen carefully now you will hear
It may be the first trumpet
Might as well be the last
Many more will have to suffer
Many more will have to die
Don't ask me why....NATURAL MYSTIC

...when the cat's away
The mice will play
Political violence fill ya city...
Rat race, rat race
When you think is peace and safety
A sudden destruction
Collective security for surety....RAT RACE

Bob's song TIME WILL TELL......A song with its origin in the 1976 murder attempt of Marley......Rita Marley: "Bob could still show love for the guys that did the shooting. But he wanted to get the people who SET THEM UP"......TIME ALONE, OH! TIME WILL TELL......THINK YOU'RE IN HEAVEN BUT YOU'RE LIVING IN HELL"...........

OVERCOME THE DEVILS WITH A THING CALLED LOVE.......THE ONE AND ONLY........BOB MARLEY!

Posted on Thu Oct 18 06:11:44 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.204)

Calvin

Chris, why would you think knowone here listens to WIlco? We actually discussed them about a month ago. I had heard by the way, and someone here confirmed it, that the label dropped them, not they the label. After the 2 albums with Billy Bragg having such acclaim it didnt make sense to me either, your version seems much more logical. Also, Im surprised at youre comment about RR in "Going Home." I know many here like to believe RR is some great satan, but that particular documentary is about RR exploring his heritage and really only glosses over his time with the Band, where exactly did you see dishonesty? Also, Nick Cave did an interesting version of Long Black Veil.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 04:32:43 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.205)

To Guenevere

"Nobodys goes there no more, it's too crowded"---Yogi Berra

Posted on Thu Oct 18 04:17:42 CEST 2001 from (152.163.194.189)

Bayou Sam

Matt K = don't go away mad just 'cause some people don't see things the same way as you. That's just plain silly.

This war issue is a hot topic everywhere I go nowdays around the NYC area. I was working with a guy today who said that if we had just sat and didn't go back at them - think of how terrible that would make the terrorists seem. Can they seem any more cold blooded than they do now? I guess they would look like bad meanies, and we would look like the peaceful victims. ....I'm sorry (actually, I'm not), but I can't see the point in that. Do you think the terrorists would sit back and revel in the fact that they dropped the Twin Towers and hang thier hats (or turbans) on that "victory" and that would be that. I really don't know the answer to that. Does anyone? ....OR..... would more buildings fall, or half a city die from poison in the water, or, God forbid, someone drops a nuclear weapon on us.

I can see what some of you are trying to say with the peaceful approach. I just don't think it's the route to go here. As I said in a recent post - if you fly planes into buildings and murder 5,000 or so people, you gotta expect to catch some shit for it.

I wish us all Peace too.

Someone asked John Lennon once, if he would ever kill a person. He said he would never just kill for the sake of killing, but if he was defending himself it would be different. I think we're defending ourselves right now.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 04:09:13 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.64)

HANK

What Dylan has done is make a great 'Pop' album......maybe the best this year.....and EVERYONE knows it, too......There is literally something for EVERYONE on this album........that sickens some critics, obviously. But APART from all that....the actual playing and performances are astounding.....the guitar work and overall sounds are bang on and it's the sound of a GREAT band....what's cool is that it's Dylans Road band, too.....for......The impression is "Hey!...We havin' Fun, right here, y'all!'.......AND Dylan produced it himself........judged on those merits ALONE it's a masterpiece.......not to mention his writing and vocal delivery is peerless............totally commited.........

Yep! I like 'Love and Theft', I guess........

Been listening to Aretha singing 'The Weight' lately............

It may well be the finest cover of ANY Band song........

Posted on Thu Oct 18 03:52:59 CEST 2001 from (204.248.48.134)

Bill

greetings GBers... it's been a while since I last visited these pages but it feels very comforting to check in on the informed and always entertaining convo.

one reason is that I've been busy rehearsing for the event noted below. pardon the pedestrian nature of the copy, but it is a press release for local media that know little of what we speak! :-)

I encourage all Chicago-area folks to check it out, as it should be a really fun night. our band has rehearsed 20+ songs, including Dylan's set, Helpless, Further on up the Road, Who do you Love and Caravan. then there are more than a dozen Band tunes, including Acadian Driftwood, which I've only recently learned was played at TLW, but was not included on the commercial LP. someone laid a funky boot of TLW on me recently and it is fun to listen to -- warts and all.

anyway, come to the show if you can and let us know you read it here -- we'll probably buy ya a beer -- or a cookie!

Old Town School of Folk Music Students, Staff Celebrate 25th Anniversary of Band's `The Last Waltz'

CHICAGO (October 17, 2001) - An accomplished group of students and staff from the Old Town School of Folk Music will celebrate the 25th anniversary of "The Last Waltz," the legendary final concert by the Band, with a tribute on the school's main stage Friday, November 2, 2001, at 9 p.m.

The concert is free. Several local charitable organizations, including the Peace Museum and The Greater Chicago Food Depository, have been invited to collect donations and distribute information.

Immortalized by director Martin Scorsese in the concert film of the same name, "The Last Waltz" featured the members of the Band - Robbie Robertson, Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, Garth Hudson and Levon Helm - along with a host of guest artists including Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Muddy Waters, Eric Clapton, and Neil Young. The OTSFM tribute will feature more than 20 songs performed at the original concert, including such favorites as "Up on Cripple Creek," "The Weight" and "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down."

The Band rose to prominence in the late 1960s with the release of Music from Big Pink and The Band. Both classic albums expanded on earlier recordings (known as The Basement Tapes) the group made with Dylan while he was recuperating from a motorcycle accident in Woodstock, NY.

By 1976 the group had tired of touring, and decided to formally retire with a Thanksgiving Day concert at Bill Graham's Fillmore West in San Francisco, which included a traditional turkey dinner for hundreds of fans.

The Band's unique synthesis of rock, country, soul and jazz was far ahead of its time. This tribute will be a treat not only for those who recall their impact on American music, but also to younger fans who never had the opportunity to hear them perform live.

"The Last Waltz: 25th Anniversary Celebration" will be held at 9 p.m., Friday, November 2, 2001 at Old Town School of Folk Music, 4536 N. Lincoln Avenue, Chicago. For more information, call 773-728-6000.

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Posted on Thu Oct 18 03:14:18 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

Smoke-I recommended this movie here in Jan's excellent guestbook a couple years ago, along with American Beauty, shortly after we lost Rick. Both are beautiful ensemble pieces with comforting themes. I usually love Harvey Keitel, and Smoke is one of his best characters(did anyone see that live TV version of Failsafe last year-also superb).Smoke also has a great soundtrack with 2 songs each by Tom Waits and Jerry Garcia. In fact, the song played over the ending credits is a Garcia version of Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, which turned out to be one of his last recordings. Ironic and bittersweet trivia:this song was written by Jerome Kern. Kern was a musical hero of Jerry Garcia's father, who was also a working musician. The elder Garcia named his son Jerome after his hero. Regarding another thread started by our aussie friend Nancy-last year An album by Garcia and Davis Grisman was released, titled The Pizza Tapes. It consisted of several tunes the 2 Dawg partners had informally recorded over a period of years in Grisman's living room. Garcia sings a version of Long Black Veil on which the first time I heard it I didn't even recognise his voice. Anyway, I once again recommend those two movies, along with Wonder Boys, which I also raved about in here when I saw it. With all the stuff that gets talked about in here, movies don't come up too often(unless they are Band-related), and I'm sure there are avid movie lovers around here. I'd like to see the subject come up more often, as long as it didn't get tooo intellectual. I love to analyze and discuss movies,directors, genres, etc, and in fact I'm currently taking a film course. And I visit several sites out there on the net devoted to movies. But I loathe when they get analyzed to death.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 02:37:10 CEST 2001 from (64.230.42.227)

brown eyed girl

More Musicians and Entertainers Continued

Sinead O'Connor....The Butcher Boy
Janet Jackson and Tupac Shakur....Poetic Justice
Diana Ross....Lady Sings The Blues
Bing Crosby....
Rick Nelson....Ozzie and Harriet
Paul Stanley....Phantom Of The Opera in Toronto

Ryan Adams and Emmylou Harris....Check out Return Of The Grievous Angel....Sessions at W. 54th Street and....Nobody Girl from Gold.....Ryan Adams was in town at Lee's Palace last week.....I heard that the show was sold out even though no one knew that Elton John would be present....Hmmm.....This club brings back memories.....I used to see the Cowboy Junkies perform at this club in Toronto before The U.S. market discovered them.......

Posted on Thu Oct 18 01:53:30 CEST 2001 from (130.195.196.201)

ajr

Check out a marvelous tribute to the Beatles AND misheard lyrics in the webpage above.

I’m also tired of hate here in the GB. What do certain people (C--bgr-ss)have against poor Kris Kristofferson??? I grant you his film “A Star is Born” with Barbara Streisand was, shall we say, unfortunate, but he is a great song-writer. Me and Bobby McGhee is a classic and Sunday Morning coming down has to be one of the best evocations of hung over Sunday morning blah-ness ever.

Posted on Thu Oct 18 00:09:40 CEST 2001 from (209.91.10.103)

steve s

nice Garth story - when Clinton got elected the boys were asked to do a party in DC as part of the inauguration festivities - it was called the official blue jean bash for all of the "Arkansas Travelers". the boys, dylan (who was in town for the main event, clarence clemens, DR John, an inebriated dickey betts, steve stills, kim wilson, the cates brothers, etc - ronnie hawkins was there with his kids - what a party - don johnson & melanie chumming backstage with Levon (I may have posted photos ). Before the gig we were all staying in a hotel on the DC outskirts. We had a couple of hours before the soundcheck and went down to the piano bar - me, Garth and terry (another atty) the usual piano bar scene - player in bad tux playing schmaltzy tunes to loaded businessmen hitting on married women etc. - well the piano guy takes a 10 minute break and garth goes over to the piano and sits down. Did you ever see "Shine" where the guy starts playing in the bar and suddenly all conversation and drink clinking stops cold in its tracks - well that's what happened - he played so sweet, soft and tastefully that everyone there realized they were in the presence of a truly great musical talent (even though no one seemed to know who he was) - it was priceless! th eparty got totally out of hand - we had all submitted for secret service clearance and had maps faxed to us of off limit areas but as the evening wore on and the place was crawling with the guys with the earphones, it became apparent that their comfort level could not be met - so they didn't let billy come out to play (I heard later that he REALLY wanted to jam that night - Oh well. . . . .

Posted on Wed Oct 17 22:29:45 CEST 2001 from (216.37.189.153)

Diamond Lil

Oops..thanks Wittgenstein. I obviously transcribed the wrong tune this morning. I definately did put the "draft Dodger Rag" in my post..instead of the other one : 1,2,3..what are we fighting for? _That's_ the "fixin to die rag" which is the subject of the lawsuit. Sorry bout the mix-up. That's what I get for posting BC (before coffee :-)

Have a good night everyone.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 22:12:50 CEST 2001 from (64.12.105.32)

Brien Sz

Chris: I enjoy Wilco, though Summerteeth(?) released a couple years ago as an attempt to get them commercial, was awful. Check out the two disc's they did with Billy Bragg, Mermaid Avenue I and II. The first one is far superior than the second. Jeff Tweedy also plays in a band called Smaug - the one cd i have by them is like a combination Stones/Byrds. It's average at best.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 21:42:49 CEST 2001 from (64.24.222.154)

Guenevere

Afer reading Marc Weingarten's article about "debunking the reviews of Love and Theft", (thanks Steve) it makes me think about how press-hype creates in the public, too high a level of expectation in the musicians that we listen to... (I mean it's just music)... I don't think Dylan fans expect him to realize for them some highly held ideal of a poetic "god" or "icon"... just as long as he doesn't plagiarize anyone, I'm willing to roll with all the phases of his music....anyway, if you've seen him play live in the last few years (if you haven't, check to see if your head is in a hole) ...you realize that he is what he says he is... "a song and dance man", that's all...he just puts on a really great show... heck, if all you go to a Dylan show for is to listen to his guitar-playing, it's absolutely and totally worth every penny of the price of admission.

I apologize to anyone my last post offended.

"We are the enemy only to those who chose to make enemies of us"
~~~George W. Bush

Posted on Wed Oct 17 20:44:57 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Greg Allman in "Rush"...Cher in "Witches of Eastwick" and "Moonstruck". Lyle Lovett was in a movie that I believe was called "The Opposite of Sex" where he plays a small town sherrif. All three performances were extremely credible and received accolades.

However, I have never seen a better acting job than the performance given by none other than Robbie Robertson in the spellbinding work of absolute fiction "Going Home". The way he makes it look like he could have actually been the same guy that was in The Band. Unbelievable. Oscar worthy if you ask me.

Hey Amanda: I have a copy of the video "This Country's Rockin'"...I am also trying to figure out what was on Levon's hat. But the only picture that I get when I think about it is of that HUGE hat he was wearing in The Last Waltz. It cracks me up every time I think of it.

So I guess that no one here listens to Wilco. They are a great band. Check out the album Being There. They have a new album called Yankee Hotel Foxtrot that they bought back from the record company because they refused the company's request to make it more "commercially viable". Check 'em out.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 19:31:29 CEST 2001 from (209.161.237.113)

Wittgenstein

The song D. Lil transcribed a few posts back is called "Draft Dodger Rag". This will make a most interesting law suit if the Ory family is suing Country Joe MacDonald for a song written by Phil Ochs. I'll bet it gets thrown out.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 18:59:44 CEST 2001 from (198.235.69.172)

Richard

There's a great film by director/photographer Robert Frank called 'Candy Mountain' that I would recommend. It has LOTS of musician cameos like Joe Strummer, Arto Lindsay, Dr John, Leone Redbone, David Johansen, Tom Waits, etc... It's about a New York would-be musician who is trying to locate a famous guitar maker and follows his trail into the boonies of Canada VERY FUNNY FILM with lots of good music.. Waits is about the best actor in it.

BEG: The film with Lou Reed and Harvey Keitel is called 'Blue in the Face'. Harvey plays the same character as in 'Smoke' (w/ Hurt), a Brooklyn cigar store owner. It was shot at the same time and on the same set as 'Smoke'.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 18:54:57 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.174)

Tommt

The movie with harvey Keitel is 'SMOKE',,,it was filmed in Brooklyn.There is also a sequel called 'BLUE IN THE FACE'.I'm not sure which one has Mr.Reed in it.I know 'Blue In The Face' has a buncha cameos in it, but I think John Hurt is in 'Smoke', so....

And speaking of 'Men In Black',I saw the coming attratcion for the movie 'ALI', with Will Smith.it looks REALLY good!It looks like the Fresh Prince is gonna do an amazing job....Academy Award nomination, anyone?

Posted on Wed Oct 17 18:08:46 CEST 2001 from (216.145.200.249)

Ann

You can gaze out the window get mad and get madder, throw your hands in the air, say "What does it matter?" but it don't do no good to get angry, so help me I know

For a heart stained in anger grows weak and grows bitter. You become your own prisoner as you watch yourself sit there wrapped up in a trap of your very own chain of sorrow.

...John Prine, Bruised Orange

Happy belated birthday John Prine.

I don't even know how to start this message but here goes. On August 30, 2001, my 18 year old niece Katee was murdered in St. Louis. The murderer has yet to be found. That's right...there's a murderer walking the streets of St. Louis as you sit here reading this.

Here's where my thoughts have been...What about the terrorists in our own country? Can I do what my government is doing? Can I drive my tank down to the area where she was killed and start shooting until someone gives me some answers? Can one of those B-2's leaving Missouri make a pit stop for me and drop a few bombs in the area? What about my brother and sister-in-law...will they receive financial aid? Where's the big concert to help them raise money to find Katee's killer? Murder is murder...we need to deal with the terrorists walking our own streets too! America has been everyone's big brother for too long. Time to look after our own...take care of these kids that grow up in such horrible circumstances that they turn to murder as a way of life...for drugs...for money or whatever the reasons.

I'm trying to work thru the anger...I don't want to become/remain bitter...

Posted on Wed Oct 17 16:34:24 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Debunking review of "Love and Theft" at the web page posted.

I thought Mellencamp was terrible in "Falling from Grace." Terrific soundtrack record, though - he let his sideman Larry Crane write a bunch of songs that were as good as his own.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 16:10:57 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda.......again

Most of you probably know about this site....I just discovered it!! The link above will take you to Elliott Landy's site....there are some excellent pictures of The Band....most you have seen in print before. Plus you can order lithographs...which I am about to do!!!

Posted on Wed Oct 17 16:03:39 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Bones: I have looked everywhere for a photo of Levon @ "This Country's Rockin'." I know I have seen one somewhere. I checked out Ronnie Hawkin's site, but not there. Have you see that site? There are some great pictures....including the famous shot of a fellow GBer! I would love to have a copy of the video from "This Country's Rockin'"....does anyone know where to find one?

Posted on Wed Oct 17 15:51:24 CEST 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

I agree with John D. It now seems like a lifetime ago, but there was a time when the only people we guestbookers hated were either other guestbookers (or Robbie Robertson or Neil Diamond). Now we're into entire enormous communities of people we've never met or heard from.

John D. mentioned movies. Many of you will have seen "Men In Black". Two nights ago, after reading a bunch of "Long Black Veil" posts here, I found myself singing the "she walks these hills" line to myself - but in a voice that sounded like the dumb alien checking into the motel. Luckily, nobody else was around.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 14:45:40 CEST 2001 from (64.230.32.18)

brown eyed girl

More Musicians or Entertainers in Films

Paul Simon starred and featured his own music in ONE TRICK PONY 1980....Peter: Isn't this the same film where the Rock and Roll Animal plays a bit part as a hack producer?....Does anyone know the other film where Mr. New York Cool speaks to Harvey Keitel in a Brooklyn store?....I think John Hurt was in the same film....It was not a commercial film....that's why I liked it sooo much....:-D..........Anyway, any film with Harvey is worth seeing...........

Jon Bon Jovi
Mariah Carey and Madonna ;-D
Elvis Presley
Dean Martin
Erykah Badu
Cedella Marley
Sammy Davis Jr.
Frank Sinatra
Liza Minnelli

Posted on Wed Oct 17 13:12:08 CEST 2001 from (64.230.32.18)

brown eyed girl

Musicians in Films

Robbie Robertson....Carny....and The Crossing Guard...OK.....He tried....
Jimmy Cliff.....The Harder They Come....
John Cougar Mellencamp....Falling From Grace

Thanks to Calm for reminding me that today is David "Ziggy" Marley"s Birthday!

The first time I visited Jamaica in 1989....ONE BRIGHT DAY was playing on the airwaves....produced by Ziggy, Glen Rosenstein, Chris Frantz and Tina Weymouth (from Talking Heads)

Problems, personal problems, people problems
we people got to solve them
settle for less is problems
I live we could do our best and solve them
stop wishing and waiting, stop meditating on a fairy tale
all over the world there are problems
WHO CAUSE THEM, SURE GOT THE CURE
stop wishing, stop waiting, stop mistaking, problems.....

PROBLEMS....ONE BRIGHT DAY....by Sharon Marley Prendergast and Ziggy

Until the philosophy which holds
One race superior and another inferior
Is finally and permanently discredited
And abandoned
That until there are no longer
First class and second class citizens
Of any nation
Until the colour of a man's (person's) skin
Is of no more significance than
The colour of his (their) eyes
That until the basic human rights
Are equally guranteed to all
Without regard to race
That until that day
The dream of lasting peace, world citizenship
And the rule of international morality
Will remain in but a fleeting illusion
To be pursued, but never attained
.....
And we know we shall win
As we are confident in the victory
Of good over evil, of good over evil.

WAR....based on a speech by H.I.M. Haile Selassie I, California, 28th February 1968....sung by Bob Marley....RASTAMAN VIBRATION 1976

Posted on Wed Oct 17 12:20:19 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.104)

Lil Again

Just read this is the Long Island Newsday. Thought it was interesting....36 years later! Kind of strange how the accusation is only being made now. Well..whatever..I've always loved the tune anyway.

Sarge I'm only 18, got a ruptured spleen
And I always carry a purse
I got eyes like a bat, and my feet are flat
And my asthma's getting worse
Gotta think of my career, my sweetheart dear
My poor old invalid aunt
Well I ain't no fool, I'm going to school
And I'm working in a defense plant

October 16, 2001, 5:38 AM EDT LOS ANGELES -- Country Joe McDonald is being sued for allegedly stealing the tune of his 1965 protest song "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-to-Die-Rag" from a 1926 song by famed jazz trombonist Kid Ory. Ory's daughter, Babette Ory, filed the lawsuit last month in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles. She claims McDonald stole the tune to her father's "Muskrat Ramble" and argues that McDonald's infringement was intentional

Posted on Wed Oct 17 11:50:59 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.104)

Diamond Lil

MattK: I don't know whether you're out there reading this or not, but I wanted to tell you that most of us here identify with what seems to be your extreme frustration with a situation that essentially scares the hell out of us. There's no worse feeling in the world than that of helplessness, and the emotionally battered are all feeling that way I think. Whether everyone agrees with your views on how this should be handled (or my views..or anyone's views).. I think we all want the same common goal. Safety, security, and peace for ourselves, and more importantly, for our children.

Your comment about not having very much to say about The Band right now is a more than understandable one. In a way, it almost seems wrong to rant on about music when so much is happening around us. But music soothes.. and heals.. and is always there when you need a smile or a little bit of comfort. I've been finding alot of that in Ricks voice lately myself.

If you decide not to come back here, I wish you well. And if you do, remember that we're all in this together. E pluribus unum. Out of many...one.

Have a good day everyone.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 10:46:30 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.72)

Peter Viney

John Lennon in ‘How I Won the War’ (thanks David Powell for reminding us) has been in my thoughts recently too. Wish it was on video. There’s a scene early on where the old warrior Michael Hordern is reviewing the new officer recruits. Hordern is bumbling on, ‘Main thing is, boys, beware the wily Pathan!’ Michael Crawford puts up his hand and says, ‘Please, sir. I thought we were fighting (the) Jerry.’ Hordern harumphs, ‘Ah. Grammar school boy, eh?’ The scene may seem obscure in America, but sums up the entire English class system. (Basically, smart-arse boys from publicly-funded competitive education do not understand being an officer.) To finally approach the point, by the wily Pathan, he meant the Afghanis. Some may remember that I mentioned the Taliban’s appalling treatment of women in these columns a year or two ago. Beware the wily Pathan.

I know this was mentioned when the film was hot, but watching ‘Almost Famous’ on DVD last night, it struck me too how much the character ‘Russell Hammond’ from ‘Stillwater’ looked like Rick Danko circa 1973, when it was set. Actually, the physical resemblance isn’t enormous, but add in the haircut, the moustache and EXACTLY the same leather jacket. Wonder if it was conscious by the costume designer? The T-shirt scene is a classic, where Russell is at the front on the T-shirt pic, and the only one in sharp focus. The vocalist complains, ‘But I’m the lead singer! You were only supposed to be the guitar player with mystique’. Bit Band like there.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 06:11:10 CEST 2001 from (216.209.112.157)

Richard

CHARLIE: Dwight Yoakam in 'Sling Blade'.

Web page

Hey Crabby: after reading your post, all I can say is, I became an instant- redneck-warmonger on September 11, 2001.... and here's what I think....

I say we bomb the Middle East with all their own people that live here in the US... and let them figure out what to do with themselves, when they all get there...if they love democracy so much, then they can figure out how to start one, in their own homeland, where they are free to practice religion without being oppressed by us...

and furthermore, for Halloween, I'd like to chop all their heads off and stick 'em on poles and stand 'em up in the middle of New York and Washingon DC, right in front of the WTC and the Pentagon!!!!!!.....and then charge a dollar to shoot at 'em..... and then donate the money to the families of the victims!!!!!!!!

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Posted on Wed Oct 17 05:56:46 CEST 2001 from (205.188.196.22)

Brien Sz

Just for fun and other tid bits, check out snopes2.com - It's a site dedicated to Urban Legends and their history/origins, etc.., Lots of stuff on the recent tragedy.

In Paterson NJ, a friend of mine is a cop, he said there was support for bin Ladens action in the poorer arabic communities. Also, cops were told to take down/off American flags on their vehicles in Paterson, as it offended various Arabics as well as frightened them. The Captain was going to be suspended if his officers did not comply, responded (paraphrase) "Fine, Suspend me."

I too am no big favorite of the drop food and medicine on civilians. Hell, if my house was destroyed, then followed by a parachute drop of food, i'd still be flippin the bird. Nice gesture but..,

Posted on Wed Oct 17 05:42:36 CEST 2001 from (64.12.102.158)

Tommy

What about DAVID BOWIE?I think he's a really good actor/rocker.Also Tom Waits.....he's a good one too.

On another note;MIKE!ARE YOU STILL OUT THERE???DO YOU STILL WANNA EXCHANGE CD-Rs?GET IN TOUCH WITH ME.COPELAND for DANKO.....STILL INTERESTED?

Posted on Wed Oct 17 05:41:26 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

Strange how things work out. After the bombings on the 11th the media jumped on "what happens if a bio war breaks out? What if it's Anthrax? Gee. Look what happened. Methinks that these are nut jobs doing this. I don't think it is a terrorist situation. I'm also very ashamed of the industry I am in right now. I think that the wackos can't wait to hear what they've done on TV and the media serves it up 24/7.

I'm getting really tired of the talk of giving up civil liberties. 58% of Canadians polled said they would give up ALL their civil liberties just to be safe. Makes me wonder what a person living under oppression must think when they move to North America, the land of the free, and hear people talking about giving up their rights! Rented a couple of movies tonight just to escape.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 05:08:43 CEST 2001 from (152.163.204.71)

calvin

Johnny Cash to a very credible turn as a murderer on a COlumbo episode from the show's original run. Bowie has done some very good work as well. SInatra though remains the most sucessful at both.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 03:42:38 CEST 2001 from (24.198.103.203)

MattK

I apologize for the rather condescending nature of my previous post. I'm honestly astounded by how much of a minority I feel in my own country these days. It saddens and troubles me. Never in my life have I been so concerned about the future of this planet, and yet everyone (I mean this globally, but specifically here in the USA) seems so determined to charge headlong into the most destructive path possible.

Sometimes, I feel like I woke up on Bizarro Earth four weeks ago. I honestly meant no insult to my esteemed GB friends.

Still, I find I have very little to say about The Band these days, and this is neither the forum for my political views, nor does it seem, at least for now, that it's feasible to fully articulate what are, for me, a complex set of values that I am bringing to bear on our current global crisis (unless you want to be Bob Wigo, and on the receiving end of an e-mail that is something less than concise).

Take care all. God bless and be safe. Seriously.

Matt

Posted on Wed Oct 17 03:34:42 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.177)

Bayou Sam

man - this concert that's happening in NYC on Saturday could be one for history. Clapton, The Who, Jagger, Bowie,etc.,and spearheaded by Paul McCartney. I wonder if Ringo will show up. I don't know what condition George is in (hey - us Beatle fans always hope). I'd love to see them do something like "Imagine" to kind of have John's "karma" in the room. I hope the show gets taped for video release. There are artists joining the bill everyday. I kind of wondered if Zimmy himself might show. Robbie ought to come and play. This has the second coming of the Bangladesh concert written all over it.

THE YANKEES ARE AMAZING - HOW ABOUT THAT JETER

Posted on Wed Oct 17 01:21:56 CEST 2001 from (209.214.115.114)

BWNWITennessee

Here's a new Dylan interview. He even makes some not-so-kind comments about Tour '74.

Posted on Wed Oct 17 00:57:56 CEST 2001 from (64.80.55.106)

Diamond Lil

James Wright: Thank you for posting those beautiful lyrics. Brought tears to my eyes :`-(

Have a good night everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 23:06:02 CEST 2001 from (24.198.103.203)

MattK

I give up. Blow up what you want. Get whatever visceral joy you can out of revenge. Feel free to talk up a world where Ghandhi is passe' and meeting mass murder with more mass murder is somehow "the right thing to do." Go ahead and believe our obscenities blot out their obscenities and will prevent more death and destruction on our doorsteps.

I just have nothing to say here anymore. God bless everyone. You need it.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 22:50:19 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

"There was a wicked messenger from Eli he did come
With a mind that multiplied the smallest matter.."

I know it's just human nature, in some circles, to want to shoot the messenger bearing bad news. But when a baby in Manhatten and other people in urban environments show signs of anthrax exposure, in my mind, this is cause for alarm. This is symptomatic of a greater danger. The fact that, so far, the threat has been weaponized or dispersed crudely is small consolation.

On the other hand, in no way less sinister, is the possibility that the purpose for dispersing the substance was to cause panic rather than death. Perhaps this is why several media outlets have been among the actual targets so far. If this is the case, the media is really in the line of fire, being shot at from two sides, by both the terrorists and by certain members of its audience for its reportage of the events.

Excuse me for this non-musical lapse -- I'm even starting to scare myself, but let me tell you that here in Atlanta, home of the Centers for Disease Control, the mood is quite apprehensive, to say the least.

On another note -- I recall that John Lennon turned in a rather credible performance in the movie "How I Won The War". This 1967 film by Richard Lester was a quite satirical view of the horrors & madness of war. As I recall, doesn't Mr. Lennon's character, Cockney Gripweep, die at Normandy with a bullet wound in the stomach? How eerie is that?

Posted on Tue Oct 16 22:40:20 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

In checking Jan's excellent GB a couple times in as many hours, it seems that posts are appearing a little more rapidly? Or is one of the moderators working a bit more diligently? Or maybe i'm wrong on both counts? Questions, questions, questions.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 22:15:58 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.116)

Hank

Tom Waits comes to mind when thinking about credible musos becoming credible screen actors.....he was great in 'Down By Law'........What's the lowdown on these movies that featured Richard and Rick. I have vague memories of hearing about them starring in westerns that went straight to video.....any clarififcation?....are they readily available or any good?

There was a big rant about so-called New War in this space your'e reading now....

..........but I wiped it.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 22:07:19 CEST 2001 from (206.77.150.207)

pehr

"Control, discipline, forbearance,and timing."

Posted on Tue Oct 16 21:57:25 CEST 2001 from (64.12.105.151)

James

I follow the guestbook with considerable interest. Here's the lyrics to a song I've written, and have been meaning to post... -

To Lay a Wreath... —

it hacked a hunk out of my heart
what he went and did
and I couldn’t understand it
why he ran and hid
at the end of his rope
in an orange haze
with a broken voice and left-out lines
brought down from better days
—
some souls are lost
and some souls are saved
but that’s neither here nor there—
I’ve just come to lay a wreath
on Richard’s grave
—
something he mistook
or tried to overlook
like the fine-print footnotes
to the doomsday book
when you pick your own time
the timing’s always bad
even when you’ve been on the road
till the miles have driven you mad...
—
and the ache is faded now
worn down through the years
all rage has folded inwards
and it’s long since turned to tears
you learn how sorrow sinks
but it never hits the ground
just waiting to be claimed
from hell’s or heaven’s lost & found
—
the scrapbook opera
third-act curtain fell
in a winding sheet dancing cheek-to-cheek
to a fare-thee-well
just how such a soulful soul
might be released
when music is the food of love
and love ain’t nothing but a beast
—
Copyright James Wright 2001

Posted on Tue Oct 16 21:55:18 CEST 2001 from (65.164.10.57)

G-MAN

LAST 2 cents!!! Spare the cowards, hmmm!! Well, sure do not appreciate the way they treat the women of those nations!!

Posted on Tue Oct 16 21:55:05 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

Trivia Question....What did Levon's hat say when the Band played with The Hawk in the Pontiac Silverdome in 1989? This was the pay-per-view special called "This Country's Rockin'".

Posted on Tue Oct 16 21:31:24 CEST 2001 from (65.164.10.57)

G-MAN

Geeez, may idea was taken wrongly! No US targets needed! Just round em up a waste em! Here or there! Otherwise they will waste you, me, and the whole country!!! This rebuild and aid stuff is gettin mitey old!! It hasn't worked,,, cause ya give em food and there own, black markets it! Our politicians tell us all is well!! BS!!! These slime hide behind women and children, to shoot at ya!! They bomb defenseless people!!! Haddam....shouldda finished his ass! Then maybe these cowards wouldda thought twice!!! Bring back Ollie North!!!! Peace!!!

Posted on Tue Oct 16 21:19:29 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.88)

Peter Viney

On The Band: My wife points out that I love the new Leonard Cohen album because (a) he whisper-sings like Robbie (b) the guitar trills (synthesized, I believe) sound as spare and economical as Robbie (c) the female voices support him, just like Robbie (d) the tunes sound like Robbie (e) the mood is like Robbie and (f) his accent sounds like Robbie. So if you love solo Robbie, and can take an even basser whisper, get it.

Not on the Band: Do kids get over this stuff? My sister was born in early 1941. At that time, our town (Bournemouth on the south coast) had nightly air raids, not because it was a primary target, but because it was directly under the route to Coventry and the industrial heartland. On the way back, planes dropped their remaining load on Bournemouth before flying over the English Channel, thus the town suffered many ‘random hits’ out of sheer spite. You can still see rows of 1920s houses with one 1950s one in the middle. My sister was lifted out of her cot every night as a baby and rushed to the air raid shelter in our neighbour’s garden (my dad was away at the war). The neighbours’ teenage sons were always outside to help my mum when the sirens went. Seven nights a week. I was born in 1947, after it was all over. There’s an airport just outside the town, and when I was four or five, my big sister made me run for cover every time a plane came over (hourly). She still starts at sudden noises and hates flying. I had entirely forgotten that reaction – I’ve always loved flying, I love planes – until the last month. When it all came back. Which is just one reason why my attitudes now are hawkish. And that’s putting it mildly. See my previous comments on Dresden. We finished that one once and for all.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 21:14:57 CEST 2001 from (199.227.230.5)

Scott Dempster

I'm looking for directions to Danko's old two-story shingled house in the Woodstock area. It was seen on the VHS of Classic Rock Albums. Rick does his interviews in front(or back) of this house.Can anyone help w/directions?

Posted on Tue Oct 16 20:28:49 CEST 2001 from (65.164.10.57)

G-MAN

WHOOOAAAAA NELLIE...a little error-like the OAKLAND A's! LEVON SCHENECTADY...10/19..NOT the other date!!!! SORRY ROAD WARRIORS..old neurotransmitters aren't up to snuff!!!!

Posted on Tue Oct 16 19:39:18 CEST 2001 from (207.16.153.75)

Little Brøther

-- I would certainly count the Beatles as worthy screen actors, even if they WERE playing themselves.

-- For honorable mention, let's skip past Elvis, Mick Jagger as "Ned Kelly", Michael Nesmith as Monkee Mike, and Eartha Kitt as Catwoman, and go right to Neil Diamond in the remake of "The Jazz Singer."

-- Ixnay on the ittleLay ousHay, but Johnny Cash did a fine job in the TV-movie "Murder in Coweta County", playing opposite villain Andy Griffith as "the tenacious Sheriff Lamar Potts... a classic American lawman-honest and unintimidated, a man of action and integrity determined to see justice done." They don't make 'em like that any more.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 19:17:45 CEST 2001 from (63.208.66.36)

Pat Brennan

G-Man, if what we are told is true, a scorched-earth policy would demand we hit a number of sites in the United States, besides sites in some 60 other countries. Targetted response with an emphasis on humanitarian aid and involved reconstruction seems a better response. Also note that faux-anthrax packets are showing up at abortion clinics. Should we take down the CBN studios?

check out the article on MSNBC "At Ground Zero of radical Islam", wherein the students at a radical school see video of the WTC attack. Very enlightening in an interesting way.

My six year old daughter created a newspaper at achool that shows a plane hitting a tall building. She also wrote a short article about terrorists. Thank you, Osama. We're coming to get you.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 19:02:47 CEST 2001 from (158.252.113.80)

Susan

Diamond Lil: Children do over-react to alarms in the adult workd, but they do get over them. At least I did. In the oh-so-bland 50s my mother wa civil defense director for our rural county. We had pamphlents about nuclear bombs and evacuation routes (we'd get Chicago passing through) lying around the house, and the Boy Scouts came one Saturday a month during the summer to do training exercises in spotting planes. They hung out on the big shed roof and had dirt clod fights with clods from the potato patch. Off and on these things made me afraid, and I can remember being alarmed by something or other on the radio that sounded very serious. It probably was, but I can't remember what it was now. Reassurance and a little extra cuddling, if they are young enough to accept that, and confidence from you and othe adults should help.

O n the Band front; I'm looking for tribute songs for the Band and it's members for a cd I'm making for a friend. So far I have:

Fallen Angel; Too Soon Gone: Holy Mother; All Creation; Back To Memphis (from Blue Horizon)

I know Bob Siebenberg has a song for Richard called The Man Can Sing, but I can't get hold of it. Are there others?

I'm planning a cd of tribute songs, and will fill it up with Young Men In A Basement Fooling Around.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 18:57:05 CEST 2001 from (206.38.114.100)

Nick

Charlie Young, The answer to your Six Degrees of Separation question is...Eric Clapton. Slowhand played live with Ono and Lennon at the Toronto Rock n' Roll Revival show in 1969 and in London (Lyceum War is Over concert)in either '69 or 70. Clapton of course played with the band in San Francisco at the Last Waltz.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 18:13:33 CEST 2001 from (152.163.213.177)

Lee

Just checking in... Hello to my pal, Jan and everyone else I know who checks out this great web site. More reports on the Hudson's in Halifax please and Barnburners/Gurus shows.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 17:49:02 CEST 2001 from (65.164.10.57)

G-MAN

On a more serious note! Yep, Mr. Wigo..what would happen? Due process, rights ,etc....I agree with and fought for!! However,,,,when it's us or them,,,and we have seen what they can do...the destruction...now passing anthrax to children!! Sorry,,,my two cents...eliminate the problem!! Scortched earth....till NO more cowardly terrorists!!! exist!!!

Posted on Tue Oct 16 17:43:39 CEST 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

Crabgrass: What bugged me about the Dylan security incident, as reported in the local paper here, is that the guards - who were told to stop anyone without a backstage pass - were then fired for stopping a guy without a backstage pass. It's not as if Dylan's the only guy in the world who looks like Dylan.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 17:31:25 CEST 2001 from (65.90.173.94)

Dexy

Ben Fold's new CD "Rockin'the Suburbs" is excellent. He plays about every instrument on the record, and just writes great songs. Sole Band connection: good music.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 17:09:11 CEST 2001 from (64.80.55.172)

Diamond Lil

Thank you Steve..for your nice reply. Every little bit helps right now, even though some think it's beneath them to bring a small amount of comfort to children. I appeciate your wise words. Thanks again.

That's all from me for now. Back to the music...

Posted on Tue Oct 16 17:07:30 CEST 2001 from (24.159.100.75)

Don Pugatch

For all Al Kooper fans, tonight on Letterman, Al will be with the band, check his web page for details. Did get my 2 CD set of Rare and Well Done, excellent, so many memories on the well done and so many surprises on the Rare. Also, in the linear notes, a big thanks to our man Butch. Me, just a fan.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 16:52:50 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Lil: I think you might be able to take comfort in the fact that the media is blowing the anthrax episode way out of proportion. There are about 280 million Americans: 6 have gotten anthrax. It's not contagious, and not all that harmful - once treatment starts, if it's caught early, almost everyone makes a full recovery. Other than making us nervous about opening mail, this should not be much of a problem, considered nationwide (of course it's a problem for anyone who gets the disease.) I know cold hard facts aren't much comfort for your kids, but I hope this helps.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 15:31:58 CEST 2001 from (64.80.53.72)

Diamond Lil

Juggling some personal stuff here this morning (and dropping everything it seems)..and listening to "Jubilation"..which helps bring a smile. Haven't listened to it in awhile..and I find myself playing "Don't Wait" over and over again. I know it's probably not realistic, but I wish..just once..I could Levon sing it..live.

I've been trying to more or less scroll pasr the posts on terrorism (nothing personal against any posters, but it's consumed enough of my daily life and this is a nice place to 'escape' that)..but I want to share something with the other parents here. My kids are _scared_.. and I'm angry at the press for ramming all of this down their throats. I tried very hard to keep the news of anthrax found here in NY from my 2 youngest kids... and then CBS breaks in on a _children's_ show yesterday to report that a 7 month old baby in NY now has it. My kids lost alot of security and innocence when their dad died, and I am outraged that whatever sense of that they found again is being taken away by all of this. _Please_..all you reporters... let the adults know what they need to know and _stop_ scaring the kids.

Back to Jubilation. The way of the world id indeed..upside down.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 15:28:42 CEST 2001 from (159.105.102.8)

John Cass

Johnny Cash did a great job acting on Little House On the Prarie as a preatcher in a eposode, I know everyone watches Little House but no one admits it.. but I for one love the show and Johnny Cash's eposode is my favorite!

Posted on Tue Oct 16 14:44:33 CEST 2001 from (64.12.101.167)

bob wigo

And when Mr. Dyson gets his jihad joining ass kicked they'll call it a hate crime and someone else will take the fall. How long would an Afghani professing allegiance to the U.S. last in his hometown of Kandahar?

Maybe this whole goddamned mess is the real definition of a "religious experience".

Posted on Tue Oct 16 14:24:56 CEST 2001 from (65.164.10.57)

G-MAN

Hey-Barnburner fans/ROAD WARRIORS!!! Anyone heading to Schenectady for the 11/19 show???????If so, let us know!!

Posted on Tue Oct 16 12:44:39 CEST 2001 from (152.163.206.203)

JTull Fan

Can't get out of flying today to Minneapolis so wish me luck, should be back on Fri. and may be able to check in on the road. Bayou Sam: What a game last night! 5-3 Yanks! I know many people are tired of them winning but I think it's great for NYC; a small thing to chear them up.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 07:49:07 CEST 2001 from (209.240.222.32)

Ed Blayzor

Band/Nirvana connection.... both covered Leadbelly`s "In The Pines(where did ya sleep last night)".

Posted on Tue Oct 16 06:15:04 CEST 2001 from (24.218.186.92)

Long Distance Operator

Hank: I always thought that Neuwirth was a bit of a tool. I would love to see The Clearwater Florida Rolling Thunder TV Abandoned Bob Dylan TV Special of which you speak.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 05:15:09 CEST 2001 from (64.230.43.129)

brown eyed girl

BILL MUNSON: So sorrrrrrry Bill.......the Sinead O'Connor song is actually THE FOGGY DEW......with THE CHIEFTAINS on their recording LONG BLACK VEIL........believe it or not.......it was.......Mick Jagger........who sings LONG BLACK VEIL.......on this 1995 recording.......BTW......some other artists on this same recording.......Van Morrison.......Ry Cooder.......Marianne Faithfull........Tom Jones.......Sting........Mark Knopfler.......

Posted on Tue Oct 16 05:13:14 CEST 2001 from (63.46.151.197)

Crabgrass

Just reported on tonight's news [several days ago by the time you read this] - Bob Dylan ordered tight security at a recent concert and was refused admittance by security guards since he didn't have a backstage pass and the guards didn't recognize him. The matter was straightened out just before Bob was due on stage. The times they are a-changin'.

Dylan's name in that awful movie with the awful soundtrack and the awful Kris Kristopherson to boot was "Alias" as no doubt hundreds of posters have guessed correctly by now [several days ago].

Here are a few tougher ones: How many seconds was Bob on screen, how many lines did he have, and why did he even waste his time getting involved in that project??

Posted on Tue Oct 16 04:28:08 CEST 2001 from (64.230.43.129)

brown eyed girl

SKINNY: Dylan's stage name in PAT GARRETT AND BILLY THE KID (filmed in 1972 in Mexico and Los Angeles)....."Alias"........Dylan shares with Robert Shelton......."I was just one of Peckinpah's pawns. There wasn't any dimension to my part and I was uncomfortable in this nonrole.".......Some critics have even referred to KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR as overrated......a song about the imminence of death.......homage to Slim Pickens's memorable death scene in the film...........BTW........Good to see ya posting again.......and thanks once again for the Levon photos.......I only wish the ones I sent you had more clarity.....:-D

HANK: Did you notice during the video of SUBTERRANEAN HOMESICK BLUES.......that Allen Gingsberg is loitering to the left and splits with Dylan's professional sidekick........(role was of inspirational jester)........Bobby Neuwirth.........after Dylan drops the last card he raps to?

GUENEVERE: You're very right about the tense scene in the limo with Dylan.......she spontaneously starts singing in a very distraught manner..............IT'S ALL OVER NOW, BABY BLUE...."You must leave now, take what you need, you think will last......skips.......(But whatever you wish to keep, you better grab it fast).....and continues with..Yonder stands your orphan with his GUN".......Joan's empahasis.......Crying like a banana in the sun........(instead of......crying like a fire in the sun)"..........

MARIANNE FAITHFULL: "Baez insisted on singing her high vibrato version of HERE COMES THE NIGHT and GO NOW, which Dylan complained about. He hates her voice and tells her so. At one point he held up a bottle as she sang a high note, and drawled, "Break that!" She just laughed..............Ha, Ha...........

BILL MUNSON: Besides Rick's version of LONG BLACK VEIL.......I really appreciate Sinead O'Connors perspective when singing this song........as well as........Natalie Merchant singing it acappella.............two excellent singers..........but two different vibes.......check them out sometime.......

Posted on Tue Oct 16 02:24:20 CEST 2001 from (64.12.104.51)

hugh evans

Dylan's name was Alias.

Posted on Tue Oct 16 00:41:07 CEST 2001 from (64.64.94.194)

Charlie Young

I'm sure most here know that Dylan played "Alias" in that awful Peckinpaugh (sp?) film. Levon is one of the few musicians to turn in credible acting performances in some good quality movies. Johnny Cash did one or two. Others?

My degrees of seperation question is the link who played live onstage with both The Band and Yoko Ono (there may be more than one person, but I hope not).

Posted on Tue Oct 16 00:25:17 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.119)

Peter Viney

Band / Kurt Cobain: Well, let’s ignore the unpleasant one that both Kurt Cobain and Richard Manuel feature in a book on rock deaths (that I declined to buy). Going on, ‘In the pines’ (aka ‘Black Girl’) was done by Dylan somewhere in the distant past and should but didn’t get redone in the basement (great song). Nirvana did it ‘Unplugged’ with silly lyrics (My girl …). Finally, I guess lots of people voted Nirvana’s album an all time best in recent surveys (completely wrong) and they would have been better advised voting for “The Band.”

Leonard Cohen’s new one, ‘Ten New Songs’ is superb. Not just good, but a contender for five stars (and he’s at least Canadian and Garth played on one album)

Posted on Tue Oct 16 00:14:12 CEST 2001 from (203.197.126.106)

yazooman

Dylan = ALIAS..........but then my memory ain't what it used to be...

BTW anybody heard Trey Anastasio (he of the Phish fame) singing IMND ? Any comments ?

Posted on Mon Oct 15 23:54:01 CEST 2001 from (63.46.56.128)

Crabgrass' "Spotlight on the Magic and Power of Religion"

[Excerpt from the NY Post]

PORTLAND, Maine -- Isanu Dyson, a fifth generation American who converted to Islam three years ago is prepared to join the jihad against the United States and believes government workers are fair targets. The 24 year old Maine resident who carries a dagger and 3 foot sword told The Post that it would be "noble" to enlist with the Taliban and fight American soldiers in Afghanistan. "I am a Muslim-American not an American-Muslim -- I have a greater obligation to them than to anybody," he said. "I pray when the day comes that Allah doesn't make me a coward -- that I don't run away from the fight."

Dyson, who spoke from his apartment in Portland said, "colonialists," including the United States and Britain, created a monster by trying to oppress Muslims and propping up governments sympathetic to the West. ...Dyson, who says he began carrying the sword and dagger after September 11 for "self-protection" admitted he felt uncomfortable making such statements while living in America and said he considered going to Afghanistan immediately after the attack. "I would consider it more noble for me to go and get myself out of the country, renounce my citizenship, end up in Afghanistan, pick up a gun and fight alongside everyone else against the enemy -- American soldiers, " he said. But he said he consulted an Islamic scholar for guidance and was told his first responsibility was to a young son from a previous marriage.

...Dyson claimed he knew one of the Sept. 11 kamikaze hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi two years ago. ...Dyson was living in his hometown of San Diego and said he helped Alhazmi settle in not realizing he was part of a deadly plot against civilians. Terrorists Mohamed Atta and Marwan al Shahhi spent their final night in Portland before going to Boston and hijacking the planes they piloted into the World Trade Center. Dyson said he believes that Islamic laws forbid the killing of civilians and that the hijackers were wrong to involve innocent people. But Dyson said that crashing into the Pentagon would be within the boundaries of acceptable fighting if the plane were empty because US government workers helped to implement foreign policy.

Dyson, who is unemployed, also backed terror lord Osama bin Laden, saying the chain of evidence against him is extremely thin. "Osama bin Laden says he wasn't involved -- that is enough for me," he said. ...Dyson said he heard many Muslims in Portland say they were prepared to join the jihad. "Things are going to be very dangerous, and that's not a threat from me -- that's a fact," he said.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 22:20:28 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

Jan: Happy Birthday! Thank you so much for this wonderful site. I do not know a lot of Band fans personally, and so it is with great pleasure every time I visit this place.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 20:45:43 CEST 2001 from (209.239.2.209)

skinny

Trivia time boys & girls....what was bob dylan's stage name in Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid? Love the soundtrack! =0)

Posted on Mon Oct 15 20:12:55 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.58)

HANK

The Band and Kurt Cobain, eh?.......Hmmmnnn....Lemme guess.....Wasn't Courtney Loves father a roadie for The Dead?......Maybe when The Band and the Dead shared bills, they all hung out backstage or somethin'........

Is the Bobby Neurwith singing "When I Paint My Masterpiece" at The Clearwater Florida Rolling Thunder TV Abandoned Bob Dylan TV Special the very SAME Bobby Neurwith who sez about Joan Baez in "Don't Look Back" 'She wears a see thru blouse that you don't even wanna'...?.........The Arch-Hipster?.......The dude, who, in all the Dylan biogs, is famous for enunciating 'Who D'Y'Wanna Meet? Brando?'......The Dude who was hired to hang with Jim Morrison to keep Jim on time for gigs? Is that the same guy?......Hard to believe really, 'cos the guy Dylan introduces at The Clearwater Florida Rolling Thunder TV Abandoned Bob Dylan TV Special is a total GOOF when he comes on.......jumpin' up and down like an over-excited kid and not at ALL the arch-hipster I imagined....... I believe, however he IS, apparently, a great songwriter hisself and he don't sing that bad either.........anyone know more about him? Had he much to do with The Band apart from hangin' out with Dylan?

Posted on Mon Oct 15 20:00:55 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

"Long Black Veil or Dead Man Talking" -- A Song Noir

A tale of murder, adultery, mistaken identity, and betrayal upon betrayal, told in a series of flashbacks from the perspective of a dead man, with tersely understated descriptive sentences filled with dark imagery. The protagonist betrays his best friend and, in turn, is betrayed by the femme fatale, who betrays both her husband as well as her lover. Is this my friends a synopsis of a country song, or perhaps the plot of a film noir?

If this was indeed turned into a film, the perfect ending would be a flashback to the original murder scene. We see the murderer fleeing into the shadows -- a camera close-up reveals that he is the cuckolded husband, disguised as his best friend. The closing shot is of the victim, a women lying in a pool of blood. She, in turn, is the wife of the murderer's best friend.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 18:24:52 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Nirvana/Band connection: Flannel, baby!

I envy all you Yankees fans... our Tigers have the worst record in baseball for the last decade. But since the wife is from Cleveland, Go Indians!

Posted on Mon Oct 15 18:12:41 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Hey All: Just bought tickets to the Wilco show Nov. 23 at the Riviera Theatre here in Chicago. It's going to be a hell of a show. The day after Thanksgiving and I wouldn't be surprised if it is heavily The Band influenced. Jeff Tweedy is a big fan and a lot of his stuff sounds similiar to the Dylan and The Hawks period.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 17:37:08 CEST 2001 from (64.24.179.28)

Guenevere

BEG: thanks, I always wondered about the scene with Baez in Don't Look Back. It's pretty interesting, and also, it seemed like the tension in the limo scene was so thick you could've cut it with a ,,,banana.

Happy (belated) B-Day to Jan "the Man" Hoiberg

(Sorry Bill, that's right... you told us. :),,,I'll never mention it again.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 17:07:53 CEST 2001 from (64.80.55.170)

Diamond Lil

Lawrence: Thanks so much for the post about Garth and Maud in Halifax. I was supposed to be there, but a tremendous fear of flying right now made me back out at the last minute. I knew I'd regret it..and after reading your post..I do. Thank you though. I knew it would be something wonderful.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 16:12:21 CEST 2001 from (207.61.221.19)

Lawrence Brissenden

Garth Hudson in Halifax.

I spoke to friend in Halifax who attended Garth’s show at the All Saints Cathedral last Saturday afternoon. He says Garth opened the show solo performing a wonderful, 15 minute improvisation on the church’s pipe organ. This improv included themes and variations on melodies including “My Bonnie” and “O Canada” (Canada’s national anthem). This was followed by another Garth solo improv of approximately 15 minutes on piano. After this, and in spite of PA problems, the Crowmatix performed a set lasting 1 hour. The songs performed included “Blind Willie McTell” and ended with “The Weight”. Garth performed on a variety of instruments throughout the set including sax and accordion. The show ended with a solo performance by Garth of a hymn on this older cathedral’s pipe organ.

My friend said it was a truly great and inspiring performance. After the show, Garth was kind enough to have a chat with my friend and autographed some albums and CDs he brought along. Garth was apologetic for his sax solos as his reed was “battered and bruised”. My friend said no apology was necessary as his playing, including the sax solos, were absolutely brilliant. After listening to my friend’s comments, I sure wish I’d been there.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 15:23:19 CEST 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

1) A couple of weeks ago I posted something about an Ian and Sylvia LP crediting only Dylan for "Wheel's on Fire", and wondering why. I saw the album in a second-hand store this weekend and noticed a couple more Band/Hawks connections: Fred Carter on guitar throughout, and ex-Revol Ken Kalmusky on bass on one song.

2) Thanks to BEG for the "Long Black Veil" post. I wonder what, if anything, the Band was telling Dylan by recording a song that he'd made such a show of being sick of?

3) Guenevere: I don't even know any Monicas, with or without the long back dress.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 13:52:29 CEST 2001 from (24.2.9.37)

Craig

I know I've been a bit critcal in the past about the "meanderings" of this Board, but could someone please remind me of the Band connection to Kurt Cobain? It continues to escape me.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 12:27:15 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.81)

Lil Again

Heheh...just reading an article here on mis-heard song lyrics and thought I'd share a few of the funnier ones with you.
The Eagles 'Hotel California' : On a dark desert highway, coolwhip in my hair...
John Lennon 'Give peace a chance' : All we are saying, is give Jesus pants...
AC/DC 'Dirty Deeds" : Dirty deeds done to sheep...
"My country tis of thee" : My country steals from me...
And since you're all betting that I probably can't connect this with The Band..you lose. 'The Weight': Hey mister can you tell me where a man might find a bed? He just grinned and shook my hand, "Noah's Hall" he said :-)

Posted on Mon Oct 15 11:23:42 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.81)

Diamond Lil

Happy belated Birthday Cupid (I must've missed BEG's post)..and may your nipple heal quickly (which is probably _the_ weirdest birthday wish I've ever had for anyone. Ouch :-)

Anyone up the Nova Scotia/Halifax way can tell me how Garth and Maud's shows went this weekend? A post would be appreciated. Thanks.

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 08:00:35 CEST 2001 from (207.34.146.33)

Cupid

Many thanx to Brown eyed girl for her sweet Birthday post.Happy Birthday Jan, all be it belatedly. It's good to be able to post again and check in on my Band friends in this dark period. Perhaps we can put some of the feuding behind us, light a few candles and just love each other a bit more each day. Hug your kids for me...Peace Cupid

By the way I got my nipple pierced to mark my 37th..not the best idea I ever had but the chicks like it.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 05:35:40 CEST 2001 from (152.163.213.193)

Bayou Sam

GO YANKEES !!!!!!!!

Posted on Mon Oct 15 04:07:03 CEST 2001 from (24.218.187.47)

Long Distance Operator

Just wanted to chime in real quick to say that the new Dylan album is KICKING MY ASS.

PS- Click the web page link above for a real good time.

Posted on Mon Oct 15 00:52:43 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.178)

JTull Fan

Hey guys. As I write this the Yankees are up 5-2 in the 4th. I hope I'm not jinxing them by watching. I just read an interesting and lengthy note from Doane Perry, Jethro Tull's drummer since '84. He writes an interesting travelog on the last year including travels to the Middle East and reaction to the WTC. It's not earthshattering or anything but I enjoyed it and thought you might too. It is on www.jtull.com and can be found under what's new on the home page. The Official Tull website is not as elaborate or as in depth as Jan's and I don't think anyone comes close, but it does have the very nice feature of the band members writing regular articles. 7 - 2 Yankees! YYYYEEESSS!!!!. Sorry, lost myself. Anyways, good night to all and be safe.

Posted on Sun Oct 14 21:40:05 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.112)

The Band on NPR

It's still happening! Years later and the morons still can't get it right! I'm listening to an NPR special on The Band with Robbie Robertson being interviewed. They've just played "Stagefright" and the host announces ,"...that's Levon Helm singing the classic Band tune , Stagefright....". The boys still got em fooled years down the road!

Posted on Sun Oct 14 20:12:45 CEST 2001 from (63.11.248.120)

Spirit Hawk

i think the music for the native american is the most beautiful tape i've heard . thank you for blessing us with that music Wadv Spirit Hawk

Posted on Sun Oct 14 18:59:20 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.169)

JTull Fan

Re: So Many Roads. My wife bought this for me last month (the basic, non-rerelease version)it is pretty interesting to hear the early Robertson-Helm-Hudson playing methods. I would rate the overall early Hammond performances as 3 out of 5 stars, not bad but recommended mainly for the Band relation.

Posted on Sun Oct 14 18:14:33 CEST 2001 from (216.179.4.228)

Gene

re: Kurt Cobain / Nirvana: there was a good cover article in the May, 2001 Mojo Magazine #90, which goes for a buck or two on eBay (if you have money to burn).

Posted on Sun Oct 14 17:54:10 CEST 2001 from (209.240.222.32)

Ed Blayzor

Amen Sam!..... finally someone who has realistic perspective on this whole tragic incident. Matt K i don`t think anyone wants war but our diplomatic efforts have been exausted. Like Sam I live just outside of NYC and my local newspaper obituary column still is filled with "neighbors" who lost their lives, just this week two particular obituaries read...."survived by his wife who is expecting their first child in November" .... it saddens me these guys never lived to see the births of their children and the children will never know their fathers.

Posted on Sun Oct 14 15:18:58 CEST 2001 from (205.188.197.188)

JTULL Fan

Bayou Sam: I took Dylan's Infidels with me on my recent trip and found 'Neighborhood Bully' to have an appropriate ring at this time. True, it deals with Israel's invasion of Lebanon in 1982, (and I don't wish to start a thread on that!)but the lines about being the neighborhood bully 'not supposed to fight back' reminds me about our situation today. On another thread I need to go relisten to Long Black Veil. It has been one of my favorite Band songs and I think the lyrics are not to be taken literally but are a metaphor for betrayel or perhaps more concisely peoples inability to stand up for the truth when the truth is not always comfortable or easy. On another thread, the Yankees one and my plan worked! When my team is usually down and on the ropes I help them win by not watching which I did last night and, yes!, they beat the A's 1-0.

Posted on Sun Oct 14 13:56:44 CEST 2001 from (64.230.32.228)

brown eyed girl

LONG BLACK VEIL........The 1959 country hit for Lefty Frizzell which appears on The Band's MUSIC FROM BIG PINK in 1968.........always makes me think about the scene in Dylan's DON'T LOOK BACK.............In a dressing room after a Leicester show.............Baez begins harmonizing while Dylan sings a medley of country and western songs........but before ya know it.............Bob taunts her to sing LONG BLACK VEIL.........the attack begins.........because he DIDN'T really want her to sing this song at all..........Bob was actually ridiculing her dependence on this song as well as..............COPPER KETTLE.........MARY HAMILTON........These were songs from Joan's traditional folk set...........in order to change her image.........she had to let go of these songs..........so when Bob asked her to sing LONG BLACK VEIL.........

When Bob finally had the decency to be honest and tell her directly.........that he no longer needed her..........musically or personally.........Baez finally left England............Of course, they would hook up musically on many occasions............but the limelight was on Dylan now................

However, it is important to note that Baez is one of a few singers who can actually sing WITH Dylan........HARD RAIN and ROLLING THUNDER REVIEW are a couple of examples........clearly demonstrates her musical familiarity with Dylan................

Emmylou Harris found it very frustrating to sing with Dylan on DESIRE because Dylan was not into "perfection".........She found Dylan's idiosyncratic phrasing very bewildering...........and she had to cope with reading off lyric sheets with no opportunity for rehearsal............... "I'm more of a perfectionist. I would have liked more time. There were times that I didn't even know I was supposed to come in and had to jump fast. But I later realized that you just don't overdub on a Dylan album. He's not that kind of artist".........

Posted on Sun Oct 14 12:13:14 CEST 2001 from (64.12.102.162)

Joe

Nancy.....I'm surprised at you!!.......I thought I knew you better!! LOL!!!!!

Posted on Sun Oct 14 11:10:39 CEST 2001 from (203.59.153.189)

Nancy

Re: The Long Black Veil

Virtuousness: moral rectitude

Virtuosity: special knowledge of or taste for works of art ................ I was just testing to see if anyone would notice my error :)

Posted on Sun Oct 14 06:55:13 CEST 2001 from (152.163.213.187)

Bayou Sam

Matt K = we hit them back hard, then what? you ask.

I think what happens next is maybe no more planes flying into our buildings.

What happens when the schoolyard bully keeps on picking on people and thinks he can get away with it? eventually somebody levels the person and that's that. I know that's kind of simplifying this thing a bit - but we took a few nasty hits over the last few years by these people ( I hesitate to call them people). They must have been feeling pretty good after the Trade Center bombing in 93(?). Remember how shocking it was that such a thing actually happened right here on our soil? Then they come in with the un-thinkable events of Sept. 11th. I personally can't think of a better way to handle it then what we've done. I'm sure they were expecting us to turn Afghanistan into a parking lot on Sept. 12th. We gave a list of demands instead, and they were ingored - so we went back at them with the only language they seem to relate to. I don't think we should sit around and wait for them to drop the Sears Tower - or bomb the Super Bowl.....no - it isn't going to make the obituaries go away. But who knows what it might be stopping in the future.

I think that when you murder about 6,000 innocent people in about an hour - you gotta expect to catch some shit - to put it bluntly. I think the fact that we gave them a couple of weeks to do it the easy way, is what separates us from thier barbaric ways.

Happy Birthday Jan.

Posted on Sun Oct 14 06:07:53 CEST 2001 from (152.163.206.182)

FRIEND INDEED

I find myself with an extra "A Tree With Roots." Sealed copy on the Scorpio label. Very deluxe and verrrrry available. e-mail me if interested.

Posted on Sun Oct 14 03:42:49 CEST 2001 from (203.59.153.189)

Nancy

Here's some school yard humour and it comes courtesy of Jimmy Barnes, icon Aussie singer!! It's a lyrics substitution story.............

ORIGINAL:

"Well he loves a little woman

Someday he'll make his wife

Saving all the overtime

For the one love of his life"

NEW:

Well he loves a little woman

But you better not tell his wife

Cause she's gonna chop his balls off

With a six inch carving knife"

The song is "Working Class Man" which has been around since 1985, but Jimmy has used the new words for the last three years.

Well it made me laugh anyway...........heh heh

Posted on Sun Oct 14 01:39:56 CEST 2001 from (64.12.106.38)

jcf

It's great that the guestbook is back... for now at least

Posted on Sat Oct 13 23:34:43 CEST 2001 from (64.12.103.177)

Mike

Sorry for my oversight with my last post, Happy Birthday Jan. Thanks for a great resource for The Band. The clip of Richard singing "Georgia" on Saturday Night Live was so inspiring, that I wrote one of my best songs after watching it over and over.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 20:56:10 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.228)

Jeff

This will be my last post on our current situation. I would have to disagree with you Calvin that no one says we're under attack. Go to any major news web page. What's the first thing that sticks out at you. "The Attack on America", latest updates an so forth.I forget specifically which homepage it is,CNN or CBS or ABC, but it's there. Bush has said it several times in his speeches. With the current , expeditious passing of certain security bills, many have raised the flags about our civil liberties,namely the American Civil Liberties organization, and members of Congress themselves.After WWII, we had the Nurembourg trials, a global tribunal that decided the fate of War criminals.Evidence was presented, a decision made.There are a lot of grey areas right now concerning who was actually behind these attacks and for what purpose. Let's find out before we go yanking individuals rights, and exacting "collateral" damage on God knows how many innocents. The American public has not been made privy to the "evidence" in this case, and the Arabic nations we've presented it to have found it circumstantial at best.There are many reasons for this, some valid.Some suspicious. Yes, we should bring the bastards to justice, whoever they may be.The method of punishment we'll leave up to the masses to decide. Right now there is a petition being circulated by family members of the victims asking Bush not to go War on their behalf. I don't know the percentage of family members who have signed this, except to say that it is substantial from what I've seen. This issue raises the hackles of many,understandably,and I don't particularly enjoy talking about it. Nonetheless, we have an obligation to start understanding what our role (The U.S) may be in all of this.The innocent victims of the WTC, (of whom I knew a handful)alive and deceased deserve nothing less.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 18:14:16 CEST 2001 from (216.126.148.88)

Guenevere

Nancy: Certainly the story of a woman allowing her lover to swing from the gallows in order to protect her own virtue is a tune that could not credibly be written in today's world.

Turn the theme on upside-down, give it a little twist, and a song for Bill and Monica could be written from Bill's point of view tho, called "Long Black Cocktail Dress"...

"She walks these hills in a long black cocktail dress... Visits me in oval office, oh goodness what mess... Everybody knows, everybody sees, everybody knows but Hilary..." :0)

Posted on Sat Oct 13 16:50:47 CEST 2001 from (205.188.200.157)

Calvin

I completely understand youre concerns Jeff, and in may ways I echo them, but I respectfully suggest that your qoute isnt exactly correct, no one is telling us we are under attack, and to suggest that it is propoganda of a sort is a bit of an insult to all the people who lost someone among the 5,000 in an actual attack we all witnessed. On more pleasant notes Ive given Rick's 1st album a 2cd lesson and to like it more than my first go around, I still don't like it near as much as Old TImes or Breeze Hill, but what the heck. Yesterday though I ordered In COncert and the Levon/Crowmatix albums, just keep listening I guess.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 16:50:37 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.225)

Jeff

Long live The Band!:)

Posted on Sat Oct 13 16:48:34 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.225)

jeff

Dr.Robert Bowman,Lt.Col.USAF, ret.-- ".....If retaliation worked, Israelis would be the world's most secure people. Only one thing has ever ended a terrorist campaign -- denying the terrorist organization the support of the larger community it represents. And the only way to do that is to listen to and alleviate the legitimate grievances of the people. If indeed Osama bin Laden was behind the four hijackings and subsequent carnage, that means addressing the concerns of the Arabs and Muslims in general and of the Palestinians in particular. It does NOT mean abandoning Israel. But it may very well mean withdrawing financial and military support until they abandon the settlements in occupied territory and return to 1967 borders. It may also mean allowing Arab countries to have leaders of their own choosing, not hand-picked, CIA-installed dictators willing to cooperate with Western oil companies........"

Posted on Sat Oct 13 15:12:32 CEST 2001 from (64.230.36.198)

brown eyed girl

The alternative to the WAR ON TERRORISM is not RAMPANT TERRORISM..............but............RAMPANT CRABGRASS!! ;-D

Thank you kindly for the lovely Bob Marley photo you sent Crabby..........was Bob practising mime at the time?........ :-D

NORBERT: The next time you're in France........pump up the volume on a new reggae/rap song I found by a Montreal group.......Dubmatique.......called RAGGA-DUB (their version of Marley's NO WOMAN NO CRY.....they change to PEOPLE NO CRY)...........cool runnings for sure!!

Posted on Sat Oct 13 14:03:28 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.81)

Peter Viney

Long Black Veil: I like Nancy’s phrase ‘delicious drama. It’s a wonderful dilemma, full of constraints and values of a past time. Reading yet more about the dire fate of women under the Taliban, this would be a deeply dangerous dilemma there now, because the result would be the death of both of them. But in 19th century America social disgrace was the only public penalty harking back even further to Hawthorne and ‘The Scarlet Letter.’. But ‘only’ is added from a modern point of view, we’re talking of an era of ‘a fate worse than death’. The delicious twist is that, public disgrace is not really the problem they’re facing. He’d been in the arms of his best-friend’s wife. His best friend doesn’t know. The knowledge would destroy him, therefore both the singer and the woman are united in an altruistic attempt to save the ‘best friend’s’ feelings. That’s why it’s uplifting rather than an attempt by her to escape the consequences while the singer goes to his death.

Marijohn Wilkin was writing in 1959 and deliberately doing a fake murder ballad. I’m sure we all set it in the Wild West in our minds, and ‘19th century’ is only my assumption, and the only definite clue is that public hangings still exist (unless the crowd was waiting outside a prison). Also the victim was killed ‘neath the town hall light’ which sounds electric (or at least gas!). Marijohn Wilkins’ answer disc, ‘My Long Black Veil’ adds to the story slightly, but dilutes the impact of ‘best friend’s wife’ to ‘I was out with him.’:

What could he do? And what could he say?

Fotr that one stolen night, he just had to pay.

He couldn’t tell a soul, that I was out with him,

For the whole town knew I belonged to his best friend.

It implies that she also felt that he had to pay for that one stolen night. Anyway, ‘she stood in the crowd and shed unseen tears.’

The level of irony interests me. Lefty Frizell plays it straight, but overdoes the hokey hayseed vocal. Rick Danko caught the mood of the song perfectly, better than Johnny Cash or Mick Jagger did later. Levon said, “We knew it from Lefty Frizell’s version and liked the story of the young man who goes to the gallows for a murder he didn’t commit because his alibi was that he was in the arms of his best friend’s wife. I guess we thought it was funny.”

There’s a strange line here, and it’s one of those select group of songs that can be genuinely moving, while being ‘over the top’ and therefore funny at the same time. The classic example is the tear-jerking Everly Brothers ‘Ebony Eyes’ which is deeply sad, but at the same time so overdone that you don’t know whether to cry or laugh. The tradition includes ‘Tell Laura I Love Her’ , ‘Leader of The Pack’ and the most over-the-top death song of all time, ‘Old Shep’, which was discussed at length here years ago and will be in the archives (for those with a fast enough link to search them). Surely there’s a combination of a sob and a chuckle from ‘Old Shep’?

Posted on Sat Oct 13 11:46:39 CEST 2001 from (152.163.204.184)

hugh evans

For some reason, I have been listening to the Band non stop lately. I was surfing and found this website, Great guestbook! For what it's worth, I wanted to relate a "true adventure" story. Back in 1990 or 91, my ex-wife and I took our kids to New Orleans for the weekend. Every time I'm there, I like to go to a record store down in the French Quarter that sells just about anything you could hope to find on vinyl. Anyway, while we were browsing, a man and woman came in. They looked like tourists like everyone else. The woman was carrying a bag of cajun seasonings that she had bought, and the man was dressed in plaid shorts, dark socks and Izod shirt. I knew I recognized him but didn't say anything. He purchased an album and they left. The woman had set down her bag of spices and walked off without it. My ex-wife ran after them and took the bag to them. At this point, the guy behind the register and I looked at each other, and said at about the same time, "that was Robbie Robertson". This was during the time he was working on "Storyville" with Daniel Lanois. Anyway, I thought that was pretty cool. Again, this is agreat site. Sorry this is a bit long.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 10:49:09 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.111)

Hank

NANCY!.......I may have written this before but when I play 'Long Black Veil' at gigs I usually preface it with a graphic description of what the song is about....pretty much along the lines of your last post and I also point out that if the same events happened TODAY, those people would end up not in graveyards or on The Gallows but on Jerry Springer.......can't ya just see the byline at the bottom of your screen?........

'Accused of Murder But SLEEPING WITH HIS BEST FRIENDS WIFE!!!!!!!'

Jeff!......Hmmmmmn......Herman Goering, eh?.........you'll not be thanked in here for THAT particular quotation, methinks..........but it's fascinating all the same........when someone as evil as Goering speaks the truth of the nature of the evil they are unleashing.........Propaganda All is Phoney indeed.......

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAN!!!!!!!

Posted on Sat Oct 13 07:23:34 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.214)

jeff

As the United States and Britain move forward with an attack on Afghanistan, let us pray that innocents are spared. Let us also pray that Hermann Goering's belief that we are but mindless sheep proves incorrect in this instance: "Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." ~Hermann Goering, Second in Command, Nazi Regime.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 06:36:20 CEST 2001 from (172.167.164.240)

pretty little girl

Cheers Jan, many happy returns mate. Isn't it good? (Norweigian............ website!)

Posted on Sat Oct 13 05:02:59 CEST 2001 from (64.230.40.185)

brown eyed girl

C rafts his own songs

U sually listens to the music of The Band, John Lennon, Steve Earle, Tom Waites, Mr. New York :-DD

P lays guitar to many songs including "Cabbagetown Girl" ;-D

I n order to EXIST you must ACT

DOUG'S BIRTHDAY SATURDAY!

Posted on Sat Oct 13 04:52:40 CEST 2001 from (203.59.30.91)

Nancy

The song “The Long Black Veil” has had several mentions here lately, and maybe that’s because one comment sparks another, so here is one more. I have always liked the song, probably because its melodrama appeals to me, and I am intrigued by the inconsistencies in the story.

In the song, the singer is accused of murder, which he could not have committed since he was in bed with his best friend’s wife when the murder occurred. He allows himself to be convicted of the crime and then hung, rather than divulge where he really was. The woman also remains quiet rather than provide her lover with an alibi, and watches silently “and sheds not a tear” while he is hung for a crime he did not commit.

I used to think that she could hardly have loved him at all, despite the way she haunts his grave at night afterwards, “wearing a long black veil”, and accompanied by wailing and moaning cold winds. I considered her to be a completely unworthy person to allow him to be executed rather than spoil the image of her virtuosity (when in one sense her virtue was already shot anyway!!!). For me the crux of the song is the ultimate sacrifice the two of them will make to protect her virtue in the eyes of others.

It’s hard to imagine a woman in any age allowing a man she loves to be executed when admission that they were lovers would save his life. However, society values have changed such a lot that we forget that values such as this did exist, and do still exist in parts of the world. Acknowledging this makes me feel more sympathetic towards a woman who lives in a society and time where she feels she has no choice but to be swept along by events out of her control, and thereby pay an enormously high price.

If anyone else here has ever spent a moment thinking about the delicious drama in this song, please share.

BTW on the liner notes I have here the song is credited to M.J. Wilkin and D. Dill (1968), not Lefty Frizell.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 03:32:11 CEST 2001 from (152.163.206.212)

JTull Fan

So good to be back. Happy Birthday Jan. What a disastor this trip has been: canceled appointments, over 2,000 miles of driving, got stuck on flooded Hwy 61 near Clarksdale...then...my big meeting at a massive General Electric facility in Louisville, KY. I am supposed to meet with a delegatation of engineers and am told that due to a visit by a 'very big VIP' my meeting was canceled, but if I wished I could come meet the VIP. This person turned out to be Mohammed Ali. Apparently GE donated millions to one of his charities and he showed up in person to thank-them. So I got to meet the Champ. And to think I told my wife I wouldn't need my camera because 'nothing was going to be worth photographing'. Ugh!.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 01:08:53 CEST 2001 from (64.12.105.163)

Joe

Happy B'day Jan......Thanks for all the hard work.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 00:18:44 CEST 2001 from (63.143.92.254)

Pete Rivard

Bayou Sam,

Thanks for mentioning Earl Scruggs. I caught him on one of his tours with the Earl Scruggs Revue in Philly in 1972, and promptly took the cash I'd saved to buy a stereo and sunk it in a 5-string.

Banjo playing has these wild swings in popularity. I've been either hip or completely uncool dozens of times in the last twenty-some years. Banjo music seems to be on the rise lately (I'm heading off to a gig tonight, as a matter of fact). Only a little while back I could completely understand the following joke: What's the difference between a dead snake in the road and a dead banjo player? Ans: The snake was on his way to a gig.

Hey, you New Yorkers--I caught one of your bands coming through town last week: The Strokes. Rock and roll is not dead among the younger types. Those guys can rock. Twin guitar attack, a singer who evokes both Lou Reed and/or Leonard Cohen. Impressive.

By the way, has everone heard Guy Davis' cover of Dylan's "Sweetheart Like You" on Red House Record's Nod to Bob tribute disc? What a vocal performance. And Levon on the drums to boot.

Posted on Sat Oct 13 00:06:08 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.39)

Rick S.

First, Happy Birthday to Jan. Thanks for the site in which I've made so many friends. Second, I lost a friend and co-worker yesterday, a very decent, hard-working, well-respected person who liked to have fun. Last year she took up golf for the first time and was paired with the funniest woman in our office. You'd hear them talking non-stop thru their round in the employee golf league and laughing all the way. In these uncertain times, do something new and be out there with friends. Hope Ruby and the Road Warriors can carry on for one night without me. I'll be back soon.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 22:41:30 CEST 2001 from (206.77.150.206)

Pehr

Happy Birthday Mr. Jan.

Nice to hear from you again steve s.!

Posted on Fri Oct 12 22:12:09 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

Steve S: Thank you for that great post about the '94 RRHOF Induction Dinner. I think Levon would have had a wonderful time. He would have seen a lot of old friends and felt proud of the accomplishment at the same time. By the way, Robbie was not planning on singing until Levon failed to show up. Levon did not have to sit or even talk to Robbie that night, just play for about five minutes. I may be wrong, but I think he would have had fun.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 21:45:18 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.178)

Tommy

Great story Steve S.!

Jeez...I never looked at the "no brown M&Ms" story like that..NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!!!!

Happy Birthday, Jan!...Many more to come.....

Posted on Fri Oct 12 21:27:18 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAN!!!!! Be careful of how many cocktails you have over the week-end.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 19:53:30 CEST 2001 from (209.166.233.21)

Jon Lyness

Looking forward to some great Garth concert reviews after this weekend! Jan, happy birthday and thanks again for all the work you do to maintain this terrific site...especially during these tense times, it is always a pleasure to tune in here. Have a good weekend, folks.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 19:38:52 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

Now THAT was a fine birthday greeting, BEG! enjoy the show tonite, Ruby, and Rick.2 shows in less than a month means u are officially back on the road, Ruby. u aren't makin it to this one, G-Man? I'm tentatively planning on the Barnburners next Fri, and the Gurus on 11/9. wish these guys would come over to CNY sometime. The Dinosaur Bbue awaits!the best ribs u will eat, anywhere! Happy Birthday, Jan, and many THANX!!!

Posted on Fri Oct 12 18:54:43 CEST 2001 from (205.188.195.58)

Dave Z

Cool stories Steve S... Thanks for sharing!!! Enjoy yourselves, all you leaf peepers... It's reel purdy here too... I've also been reading a few books recommended by fellow Gbers... Thanks for the Jourdain music, brain and ecstasy one... and also Nerburn's neither wolf nor dog... fun stuff... good recs whoever posted...

Posted on Fri Oct 12 18:22:55 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAN!!!

I took the time during the last few weeks to comb through this site. I read many wonderful articles and reviews. I checked out all the photographs and found several that I hadn't seen before. There is an absolute wealth of information here. Your passion and dedication to The Band is extremely inspirational. I imagine that Garth, Levon and Robbie must feel completely honored. The memories of Richard and Rick are alive and thriving here...thanks to your efforts. The spirit of The Band is tangible to us everyday and many people (young & old) are just discovering The Band...because of this website. THANK YOU...be happy and have a rip roarin' good time on YOUR day...bask in your blessings and many successes.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 18:12:56 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Just for the record, I hope we are not being judged on spelling or grammar. Mine is pretty bad when I look back over my post.

And a big Rick Danko Happy Birthday hug to Jan Hoiberg. Thanks for the effort Jan. Spend your birthday well.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 17:49:38 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Donnie P. mentioned WRFG (the call letters stand for Radio Free Georgia), a listener-supported, noncommercial radio station here in Atlanta. In addition to the blues show he referred to, the station offers an eclectic mix of programs. There is a roundabout connection between WRFG and The Band. During the mid-'80s, the late guitarist Thumbs Carllile was a regular guest on the "Sagebrush Boogie" show, hosted by David Chamberlain on WRFG.

Thumbs was quite a racconteur, so in addition to playing instumentals in his unique & amazing style during the radio show, he would tell joke & stories from his years on the road. Some Band fans will recall that Garth befriended Thumbs and co-produced & engineered the album "Thumbs Carllile With Himself" back in 1982. Thumbs played the guitar (both electric & acoustic) in an unorthodox manner, much like a lap steel, using his thumbs & fingers instead of a bar to fret the strings, hence the nick-name "Thumbs". He was equally adept at playing any type of music, including country, jazz & pop standards. His playing was incredibly fluid, with the ability to unleash the most amazing licks at lightning speed.

Mr. Carllile spent many years on the road playing mainly with such country artists as Little Jimmy Dickens and Roger Miller. Health problems forced him to quit the road in the mid-'80s and he moved to Atlanta. Sadly, he passed away in 1987. I was among the many fortunate fans here in Atlanta to be afforded the opportunity to hear this great guitarist through his appearances on David Chamberlain's radio show on WRFG. Later I got to see him play live at his regular Sunday evening gigs at the Freight Room in nearby Decatur.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 17:38:36 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Hey all:

I just read for the first time the article by Ron Horning about Richard Manuel. Who is this guy. Does anyone think their is credibility in what he has written. I am completely shocked by the suggestions made in the story. I am niave or is it as hard for others to stomach.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 17:02:26 CEST 2001 from (207.251.204.133)

G-MAN

Happy Birthday Jan!!! Work and efort are much appreciated!!! Safe trip to all Road Warriors heading for the GURU show at Black Eyed Sally's in Hartford!!!

Posted on Fri Oct 12 16:58:17 CEST 2001 from (63.49.28.234)

Dexy

STEVE S. -- Thanks for the RRHOF post. Good stuff. I was there, too...standing there with the crowd at The Waldorf, hoping to see our guys, McCartney, etc. I had tried to wangle press creds, but failed. In the end didnt't see anyone really. I think your stories beat mine... DYLAN CD -- Terrific, goofy and beautiful. Beats TIME OUT OF MIND bigtime, in my opinion. JAN -- Do what you gotta do to keep it going. Thanks as always, and damn it Happy Birthday. BUTCH -- Get those BB to KS and pronto.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 16:52:38 CEST 2001 from (198.242.215.50)

KICKINGHORSE

LIL: Not clearly defined hey? Well all I can say is "Stay the Course", "Ten Thousand Points of Light" " Read My Lips" and "It Wouldn't Be Prudent To Say" No clear definition ugh? What Do you think those comments are all about?

Posted on Fri Oct 12 15:02:46 CEST 2001 from (63.214.116.4)

Ruby

Goodmorning to you all. I want to wish Jan a very happy birthday and to thank you for your kindness and daily efforts You are greatly appreciated Next, I want to remind everyone that the Honky Tonk Gurus are playing tonight at a place called Black Eyed Sallys in Hartford, Conn. All those in the area...no excuses!!! Get there....you will be soooo glad you did Peace everyone

Posted on Fri Oct 12 14:27:15 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Amanda: Great article about backstage food. Van Halen's famous "no brown M&M's" has a good rationale behind it. Their stage show requires a lot of precise electrical and mechanical configuration which is also spelled out in the contract. They put in the brown M&M's clause as an easy way to find out if the promoter had read all the details of the contract and would provide them with proper safety and power for their show. No one wants to see Eddie get electrocuted (I dare say there are some - viz. Eddie - who wouldn't mind Diamond Dave getting a few thousand volts passed through him :)

Hank: I just re-read "Across the Great Divide" and D.J. Pennebaker, who shoot the footage that became "Eat the Document", says that he regrets that Dylan edited it the way he did. Pennebaker thinks a great film could be made from that footage, but apparently Dylan's editing destroyed the continuity.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 14:10:32 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.201)

bob wigo

Happy Birthday Jan. Wishing you peace , health and prosperity.

With much gratitude,
Bob Wigo

Posted on Fri Oct 12 13:42:37 CEST 2001 from (64.12.101.178)

Mike

Peter, is that songwriter Lefty Frizell, writer of "Long Black Veil"? Steve S. When you going to introduce me to Garth?

Posted on Fri Oct 12 10:26:51 CEST 2001 from (64.230.35.153)

brown eyed girl

J ust the BEST WEBMASTER on this land!

A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JAN THE MAN!

N orwegian BAND FAN!

Posted on Fri Oct 12 04:25:52 CEST 2001 from (64.64.94.194)

Charlie Young

Arlo Guthrie led a sing-a-long of "This Land is Your Land" featuring Neil Young, Willie Nelson, John Mellencamp and other performers at Farm Aid 2001 a couple of weeks ago. He is still very entertaining and his official website will give you lots more info (click above). Arlo has too many obvious connections to The Band to bother. He even has connections to Dylan, the Byrds and Johnny Cash for that matter...

Peter: I loved that quote from Ian McEwan.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 02:39:20 CEST 2001 from (209.91.10.115)

steve s

steve k - no levon never showed to the RRHOF dinner after all - he got a lot of crap for it but hey - it was his decision and he's a big boy. some of his friends who flew in for the dinner were disappointed however. Don Tyson (the chicken guy) told me that night that soemtimes when you have to do something distateful you do it and get it over with (well thoses weren't quite his words, but I'm trying to keep this clean. ) The evening was spectacular - at $1500 bucks a plate it was a stretch for me but I have never looked back a day since then and not thanked my lucky stars that I was there - it was entertaining trying to convince the yutzes at the RRHOF that Levon wasn't going to show - they were so sure he was en route. Garth's speech was wonderful - typical Garth - he addled up to the mic, pulled out a list of folks to thank (I think he said there were about 58) it was quite touching seeing him acknowledge all those who assisted him in his career. The audience(read the beautiful people) got a tad restless at its length and in fact there was a snotty comment by Jancee Dunn in Rolling Stone about his speech - I wrote a letter to RS as one of the "Hudson 58" but not surprisingly. it was'nt published. Garth got a kick out of it. For all the great music that night, the musical moment that hands down got the most applause was Rick singing the "Chester" verse from The Weight. The place went absolutely bonkers! (and that's an evening with Jeff Beck, Clapton, Bono, Axl Rose, Rita Marley, Elton on the bill) For me as a music attorney and a fan it was heaven - palling with Paul McCartney (who worked the room with a deftness that still leaves me gasping!) getting introduced to my guitar hero Jeff Beck by Eric Capton and sitting with them when Beck found out that I had worked and played with Roy B was mindblowing - then getting thanked by Garth - I remeber praying for lightning to strike because it just didn't get any better. One of the most poignant moments for me was upstairs in Garths suite. I represented the late jazz great Tal Farlow who was playing across town. Garth was dying to meet him and we arranged to call the club and speak to Tal. He invited Garth to the show and Garth very modestly demurred saying that he was "at a dinner that he could'nt break away from!". BTW Clapton sang Lee's part in The Weight. His intro was heartfelt and appreciated by all.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 01:59:13 CEST 2001 from (64.80.55.249)

Happy Birthday Jan :-)

Wishing the happiest of birthdays today to my dear friend Jan..who's warmth, patience, and laughter make everyday so much brighter. For all you do here.. and for all that you are to me..thank you.

Posted on Fri Oct 12 00:35:18 CEST 2001 from (206.77.150.209)

pehr

good to see a civilized debate going on here, though the topic of WTC doesn't make the moderator's jobs any easier.

I dont have any problem admitting I'm confused as hell about this. But It doesnt make any damn difference in my opinion what we do or dont do because we will be attacked again regardless.

IMHO Ghandi and King made alot of sense till 9/11. I am not convinced those comments are relevant any longer. I spent a long time in deep, deep despondency and sorrow for the world on this one. I then shifted into a full time furious outrage. My anger was slightly tempered by the feeling that we were responsible(on account that these 88888's took our planes and killed thousands armed with boxcutters!) but I am a long way still from saying "Oh it's our fault...let it go..." wel, uh uh. I'm still quite pissed.

Maybe its not really mature of me, But being honest with myself is the first step to compassion. I dont particularly care to share the planet with these people. I don't have any sympathy for them or their cause. I'd be happy to give my life to fight them. When I here them taunting us I'm ready to blow them up in their little cockroach corners, tho thats far too humane.

I have confidence that the British SAS is fully capable of infiltrating the al- quaida or whatever these creepy dark ages bastaRDS ARE called and wipe em out one by one. I saw the pictures of these &*%$$%%^ , about 20 of them on the front page and yes I have hateful feelings I'm not used to having. Well too bad for them. well thats my rant.

Band Connection? without the Band i dont know what I'd do. Rick's Album gets more significant by the minute in my life and Garth's Record heals my bubbling anger and replaces it with much more pleasant, lovely vibes for which I am very grateful.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 22:26:41 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

Thanks to this site for explaining the bonus tracks on the recent reissue of John Hammond. I have three John Hammond cds (So Many Roads, I Can Tell, Best Of), and I was curious about whether there was some overlapping with the new one.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 22:21:28 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.141)

Peter Viney

Thanks for the mailbox full of e-mails. I am not really the Weakest Link. My post was tongue-in-cheek. I had realized it was Bob Dylan, but we should be able to find far less obvious links here! Come on! Band, Byrds, Cash EXCLUDING Dylan. Anyway, now to send off my postcard and hope for my prize! An even better contest in the same mag wins a 'Down From the mountain' DVD, the question is was it the Soggy Bottom Boys or the Saggy Bottom Toys? All you have to do is send your answers on a postcard to HMV.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 21:02:14 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.80)

Hank

(read as if it were a Monty Python sketch)

Pat Brennan:....."UNGENTLEMANLY to remind Joan Baez of the travesty she made of TNTDODD."?????!!!!!!!!!

"UNGENTLEMANLY"....?????!!!!!!!......Pray Tell, then, my dear man, does that mean only a WOMAN could accuse her of such things?........UNGENTLEMANLY?.....that's raaaahther sexist, don'cha think?........

And now for something completely different...........

Anyone reckon there's a better movie in "Eat The Document" than what was made?..........it's a blast to watch for sure but I got a hunch it could be even better........and it would be a treat for any fans of The Band........

Eat The Document DVD, anyone?

Posted on Thu Oct 11 20:42:19 CEST 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

Richard P: Surely there are several places outside America (even including Canada) where Lou Reed has a strong following. When I paid attention to such things, the UK pop chart always seemed to me to be more diverse than what we had on this side of the Atlantic. Then there's India and ...

Posted on Thu Oct 11 20:16:44 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Songwriter associated with Johnny Cash, The Band & The Byrds? Peter, the answer is so obvious that one might overlook it while trying to dig for the obscure. The answer is Bob Dylan.

Someone mentioned Gene Clark of The Byrds the other day. Mr. Clark maybe the most overlooked member of that group. He not only had such a beautiful singing voice, but he was also a great songwriter. On the Byrds' debut album, "Mr. Tambourine Man", which featured 12 songs (including four Dylan covers), Gene Clark had a hand in writing five. Over the years, his credits would include such fine songs as "Feel A Whole Lot Better, She Don't Care About Time, The World Turns All Around Her, Set You Free This Time, Train Leaves Here This Morning, Tried So Hard and Full Circle".

Posted on Thu Oct 11 20:08:00 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Hey Peter: Wouldn't that be Bob Dylan?

Posted on Thu Oct 11 19:26:05 CEST 2001 from (152.163.205.64)

Tommy

The bad thing about threading the GB is that it'll make it harder for people(us) to join in on a conversation we wouldn't particularly start or think of starting/reading.With all/everybody's posts together,mixing subject matter, I (and WE) can read stuff that we normally wouldn't post about/read about.If it was broken down into subjects,I wouldn't know where to post or read...and reading the GB would take forever!!!Now, I(we) can just scroll by posts we're not interested in(as I've always done...that's why I never thought there was a need for moderators-If someone's being a dick, just ignore them!)

Anyway.......how's everyone?

Posted on Thu Oct 11 19:17:33 CEST 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

Jeff: I've found Robert Bowman's work on the Band rather sloppy, so I'm not sure I'd want to trust him on military issues. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 17:53:59 CEST 2001 from (204.0.250.35)

American Routes

Robbie Robertson on Public Radio

This week American Routes presents an hour-long interview with Robbie Robertson about his years with The Band. To hear Real Audio clips, check out http://amroutes.cc.emory.edu/

To find out if American Routes is on in your area, or to catch the live web casts, check out http://amroutes.cc.emory.edu/stations.html or e-mail us at mail@amroutes.org

Thanks, and please excuse this shameless self-promotion.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 16:54:06 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.106)

Peter Viney

HMV –UK had some nice freemagazines bundled with a free Naxos CD sampler of American classical music so I picked up a copy. The ‘New country’ magazine advertises a ‘Beyond Nashville’ 2CD set which it says includes tracks by Johnny Cash, The Band and The Byrds. Then there’s a free competition to win the CD. All you have to do is name the songwriter who is associated with Johnny Cash, The Band and the Byrds. As you can imagine I’ve puzzled long and hard over this. At first I thought Marijohn Wilkin, but I don’t think The Byrds have recorded Long Black Veil. Both the Band and Johnny Cash have recorded Springsteen songs, but not the Byrds. Maybe it’s Tom Petty. Cash has recorded Southern accents and Band members appear on the Petty album and Petty made his impact by imitating The Byrds sound. Can’t imagine who else it could be. Why do they make these contests so difficult? J

Posted on Thu Oct 11 16:13:26 CEST 2001 from (216.41.85.170)

Eric Fergerson

This story gives an interesting perspective on the US's position in the world and what has in part brought on a lot of hate directed at our policies. Thoughts are welcome - feel free to e-mail me or post.

Thanks to everyone who sent me info on The Complete Last Waltz. Does anyone know where I could buy it? It would make an excellent holiday gift for my wife.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 16:09:52 CEST 2001 from (209.54.25.222)

MattK

Bayou Sam, I would ask two questions.

1) Ok, we hit back hard. Then what?

2) How will our current tactics make those obituaries go away, or help us feel better about them? More importantly, how does it keep it from happening again (especially when our own government has told us that the risk of future attacks is now 100% in the wake of these attacks).

One can operate on cancer and remove the cells with invasive surgery and chemo/radiation, and the "patient" may go into remissions, but if he continues smoking two packs a day, how long before it recurs? Bush says this could take years or decades. Decades of what, precisely?

Two other idle and related thoughts.

Am I the only one puzzled by Bush's anger the other day over the release of the "leak" of so-called "classified information?" I understand the theory here, but the specifics are baffling. The information in question (that the CIA feels attacks are a certainty after a military strike) was stated publically by Ashcroft days beforehand, anyone who didn't think military action would happen was unconscious, and one might wonder why the public shouldn't know about the risks of such an attack.

Second, am I the only one bothered by the fact that no "evidence" has ever been presented to the US public by its own officials? To date, the ONLY articulation of what we know about Bin Laden's ties came from the British Prime Minister in an address to the British parliament.

No offense to our British friends, but is it unreasonable for us to expect our own leaders to tell the voting public what we know about these ties? I'm not suggesting revealing information that undermines our intelligence operations, but if Tony Blair can take the time to tell the British government and its citizens, don't folks in the USA have at LEAST as much right to expect the same from our leadership?

Ok, I'll give this a rest. I really don't want this to become a dominant topic here. Anyone wishing to debate can feel free to shoot me an e-mail.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 16:09:15 CEST 2001 from (24.159.101.52)

Don Pugatch

For all the "Blues" people on this site, I am happy to say that every morning, from 6 to 10, on Monday thru Friday, the above site, WRFG, now streams live on the internet. I do not use winamp, but get thru MusicMatch, and the buffering and consistancy is excellent. Funny, I only live about 20 miles north from the station, but cannot pick up in this part of the Atlanta area, and for others with this issue, you are not alone. This is a totally commercial free station, so you get all music. IN the evening the programs range from Bluegrass, Country Swing, Jazz, etc, so check the schedule, another way to heal thy self.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 14:58:06 CEST 2001 from (216.209.112.150)

Richard

ajr: Indeed Arlo is very entertaining live and you should see him if you get the chance. He was the host of the 1st Further Festival a few years back and came out to tell stories and sing songs between each group's set. I distinctly remember him playing "All Along the Watchtower" on the ukulele that day (Bob Dylan in an alternate universe).

Bob Wigo: I agree, only America has an appreciation for cultural and artistic diversity healthy enough to support a talent like Lou Reed. Like all great things, he's not for everybody.

Understandably the release of Bob Dylan's new CD was overshadowed by other current events that day. And with the guestbook shutdown, I don't remember much discussion of this CD by us regular consumers who _didn't_ get advance copies... What's everybody think? For me, this one is sure taking some time to sink in (a pretty happy complaint I would say :). I like Jack Frost's production job alot better than another freezing cold Daniel Lanois job. The music sounds very _alive_. "Summer Days", "Sugar Baby", and "Mississippi" seem to be figuring regularly in his newest set lists. That sounds about right. I'm looking forward to a great show in Toronto on Nov 8!

Posted on Thu Oct 11 14:47:31 CEST 2001 from (64.12.103.163)

bob wigo

Norbert........Precisely !!!

Pat...I would enjoy hearing your take on Nicky Hopkins. I've always loved his playing. "Jamming With Edward" ?

AJR...Your roundabout reference to an immigrant arriving in the U.S. with ill intent missed the mark badly. What we are now experiencing is a long way from the pronounced anarchy of the likes of an Emma Goldman. I cannot recall reading any accounts of Ms. Goldman randomly murdering 5,000 innocent souls in order to make her point on any of the notions she held dear. Terrorism doesn't equate to loose cannons. You would have been better off tracing Timothy McVeigh's heritage and blaming his great, great grandma. By the way, you failed to mention Ms. Goldman's exile.

Sit down, cue up the tape and watch as countless human beings plunge one thousand feet or more to their deaths. Do you see the difference now ?

Posted on Thu Oct 11 14:31:54 CEST 2001 from (64.12.104.51)

Donna

I believe the government is going about this war on terrorism all wrong. IMO, we should capture Bin Laden, and his fanatic cohorts, send them oversea's for a sex change operation. Then return them back to the Taliban to live as females. Just a Thought...

Today marks the one month anniversary of the attacks on the Pentagon, and the WTC. My thoughts are with the family and friends, who lost their loved one's to this group of terrorist, who hold no regard for human life.

I will listen to "Times Like These" today and reflect on all the good in the world. A message I believe Rick expressed so well through his music.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 14:08:09 CEST 2001 from (64.230.32.190)

brown eyed girl

NORBERT: Hoi! Even though English is your third language........your humour is still better than mine!!;-D.........

I'll try not to be soooooo sensitive and intense..........Hey Bob! I hear you're learning to play the drums........since Mr. New York Cool is in your opinion "the least musical rock star of an entire generation".......please help him revamp his career.......he's looking for a new drummer!............

Please don't get in a tither now........for entertainment purposes.........you can see him with Garth and Maud on November 7 in NYC.........If I can't hire a private jet to bring me back to the Small Apple in time for the Dylan show the next day........Could you tell him that Brown Eyed Girl loves Delmore Schwartz's book of short stories IN DREAMS BEGIN RESPONSIBILITIES AND OTHER SHORT STORIES......He'll know what I'm talking about..........PLEASE!!!.......Thanking you in advance.......:-D

Posted on Thu Oct 11 13:13:38 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.36)

Diamond Lil

A biiiig hello today to Maud and Garth up in Halifax! Hope all goes well this weekend...you know I'd be there if I could. Miss you.

Peter: Very interesting (and very frightening) about how the world has changed since Sept 11. All I have to do is look at and listen to my kids to know the impact this has all had. I don't want to get into the "war on terrorism" (which isn't clearly defined enough to even be understandable in my opinion), or the wish for world peace (which is very unrealistic). My biggest hope though, when all is said and done.. is that our kids get back their sense of safety and security and not be scarred for life. The media has got to _stop_ scaring the kids more than they already are. Competing for ratings at the expense of children is unforgiveable.

Have a good day everyone.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 11:02:23 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.4)

Peter Viney

Today the Guardian ran a feature where several major figures in various fields responded to the question,’ ‘Did the world change on September 11th?’ While it has no relation to The Band, I think some of you may appreciate the reply by novelist Ian McEwan:

“In company, conversational monomania; in solitude, brooding worst-case daydreams; addiction to TV news and newspapers; unwarranted fatigue; loss of concentration; tendency to sighing; heightened distaste for religions; troubled sleep; uneasy dreams; suspicion of certain passengers in airport lounges; fear of flying; wariness of crowds; aversion to enclosed spaces; generalised anxiety; paranoia; misanthropy; cultural pessimism; indefinable melancholy; darker sense of humour. Otherwise, everything much the same.” (Ian McEwan)

Several of the comments are incisive, so much so that if you see an expensive import copy on the newsstand (11.10.01 issue) take a look. it’s in the G2 section.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 06:01:04 CEST 2001 from (63.215.114.187)

Pat Brennan

Random thoughts:

Most if not all of the terrorists entered the US on work visas and not as immigrants.

If life was fair, Paul Burch would be getting all the attention presently being heaped upon Ryan Adams.

The Jeff Beck "Truth" album, combined with the second "Green Apple" album, is the blueprint for all the Les Paul/ rock guitar god albums to follow. Except that those two albums are consistently original and brilliant. Jimmy Page learned just about everything he knew from Jeff, much to his credit.

Hank, it would be ungentlemanly to remind Joan Baez of the travesty she made of TNTDODD.

It bears repeating that one of the more interesting things about the Band is the presence of two distinct drummers, which brought two distinct concepts of rhythm to the table. Offhand, I can't think of another group that has this.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 05:40:46 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.232)

jeff

"Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction." ---------- Martin Luther King

Posted on Thu Oct 11 05:22:09 CEST 2001 from (206.215.75.98)

Chris

Lawrence: Thanks for the post....I always liked the review of Whispering Pines by Peter Viney.

One of the things that I started to think about was the way that the lyric is so right on with the Big Pink Richard stuff. I really still think that the lyrics are very definitely Richard's every time I listen to it. But then lo and behold afterwards I always marvel that they are Robbie's...theoretically. It just speaks to how symbiotic the relationship was between these guys at that time.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 04:38:48 CEST 2001 from (205.188.200.156)

Bayou Sam

I know that there are a couple of Bluegrass fans out there (BWNWITenn) - I just read in the latest issue of Bluegrass Newsletter that banjo legend, Earl Scruggs will be on David Letterman's show on Oct. 17. For non-banjo folks, this guy is to the banjo, what Les Paul is to the guitar.

I really don't want to get hung up in here with disussing our war against terrorism. BUT - I think President Bush - and the country are doing this thing the right way. We got blindsided - we did some investigating - we made certain demands - they said no - we said "you're running out of time" - they ignored us - we hit back - hard.

I'm a Peace loving guy for the most part, but everyday in the papers here ( I'm about 40 miles east of the trade center)there is almost two pages of obituaries, and many other pages with stories of the victims. I travel across the bridge and see the cops and troopers watching - I look at the Manhattan skyline and it still stuns. I think that anyone who thinks we are not doing the right thing should remember the images of the human beings throwing themselves out of the upper floors of the Twin Towers so that death will come quicker.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 03:31:16 CEST 2001 from (63.25.9.107)

jeff

For an interesting take on the current war in Afghanistan, please go to the web pages of Retired Lt.ColonelDr.Robert Bowman.Bowman directed all the Star Wars programs under Presidents Ford and Carter and flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. A well informed player on the current behind the scenes politics. Particularly interesting reading is his piece"What can we do about terrorism?" This is a must read. www.rmbowman.com/isss/iraqsp.htm

Posted on Thu Oct 11 02:15:13 CEST 2001 from (212.120.101.7)

Norbert

Dear Bob, is this a correct analyze of your post?

Someday, louuuu ago........at a Band concert?........... little Brown Eyed Girl hit you with a 5" x 10" acrylic Campbell soup can on the forehead (for entertainment purposes only, of course), and called it art!........then Louuuu said something 'bout you........and now you want to get even..........right?

Posted on Thu Oct 11 02:11:50 CEST 2001 from (130.195.196.201)

ajr

“America's most famous anarchist is Emma Goldman. A Russian Jewish immigrant, Goldman left a Rochester, N.Y, sweatshop at age 20 for New York City, where she met a charismatic young revolutionary named Alexander Berkman. For the next 20 years, the couple shocked the nation with their rhetoric and escapades—Berkman for trying to kill the industrialist Henry Frick, Goldman as a radical woman who lectured on not just anarchism but birth control, female suffrage, and the plays of Henrik Ibsen. She also defended Leon Czolgosz, the deranged man who assassinated President McKinley in 1901.”

See Anarchy in the US: a Century of fighting the man.

http://slate.msn.com/HistoryLesson/00-04-27/HistoryLesson.asp

Posted on Thu Oct 11 01:23:16 CEST 2001 from (130.195.196.201)

ajr

I’ve been enjoying a best of Arlo Guthrie album a bit recently. Is he still around? Does he ever tour? I bet he’d be pretty entertaining live.

I don’t think its that suprising the Band would inspire weirdness. Some of the lyrics are pretty dark and scary. And fans are by their nature somewhat more obsessive and perhaps a little stranger than most. (I’m not saying that’s always necessarily a bad thing by the way.)

As regards the GB I really think threading would minimize and contain at least some of the conflict. Even if there were only three on-going threads. Eg.
(1)strictly Band
(2)tangentially Band (eg. related artists, films and books relevant to the Band or Band era) and
(3)other which could be for general community discussion on current events etc.

Either that or clear guidelines set out in FAQS (reached by democratic consensus or imposed from on high by Jan) as to what is acceptable to minimize the endless discussion & potential conflict on what is ok… Say (and this is just for example) no religion, no politics, no feud, no Neil Diamond jokes, only one post per poster per day etc. I think at least some of the posters who cause offence here do it because they are just not clear on the culture & boundaries of the GB and they get alienated when they are jumped on for it and snap back.

I personally also think if someone is obviously deranged its not all that hard not to engage with them. If I see someone on public transport talking madly to themselves and occasionally shouting at the other passengers I don’t try and engage rationally with them. I avoid them and perhaps feel somewhat sorry for them too.

Posted on Thu Oct 11 00:36:44 CEST 2001 from (24.164.173.109)

Russman

Wow.. this is the one everyone's talking about, click the webpage - A TREE WITH ROOTS, anyone have this or want to trade one? Russ

Posted on Wed Oct 10 22:25:44 CEST 2001 from (64.12.101.156)

bob wigo

Thanks Amanda. That article was fun.

Any speculation on who ordered the shaved gerbil will have to be double filtered though.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 20:51:59 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

Couldn't help but notice Bush's on going talk of ridding terrorism around the world. I believe that to be either really naive or arrogant. Terrorism has been around since the beginning of time in one way or the other. Sadly I think it will be around long after I am gone. I really resent what happened on Sept. 11 (other than the obvious) for the way it has changed my life. My wife and I were planning on going to New Orleans for Christmas. Not sure if I'm going to fly. Not necessarily scared; but the 3 to 4 hours of security checks are not something I am looking forward to.

This week there was a national pole taken and 58% of Canadians said they would give up ALL their civil liberties if it meant being safe. I'm not ready for that. My dad and Uncle Bob didn't fight in the WW2 to throw those away. I've been told it's different times and I better get used to it. Don't think so.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 20:11:04 CEST 2001 from (209.54.25.222)

MattK

Bob, my post was in response to Crabby's commentary vis-a-vis "The alternative to the War On Terrorism is Rampant Terrorism." My essential comment is that the term "War on Terrorism" is meaningless minus an articulation of long-term strategy beyond the punative, which to date is all we've heard from the US and its allies in this matter.

I don't think the GB is an appropriate forum for a discourse on this, so I will e-mail you my thoughts or "suggestions" if you will for alternatives to what "appears" to be our current tact. On this last point, however, I'd ask those ballyhooing this "war on terrorism" the same basic question you've asked me. What the heck do we mean by "war" and how do we forsee our current strategy attaining this vague notion of a "terror-free world?" If we're going to use deadly force to solve a problem on the scale we're doing it, I think our leaders should damn well be able to articulate something other than platitudes like "smoke 'em out and get 'em on the run." Or "support the creation of an economically viable and responsible government in Afghanistan." These terms are meaningless minus the details, which no one on the "kick the sh*t" out of them contingent seems to be able to articulate either.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 20:07:28 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

"Don't leave me alone in the twilight
Twilight is the loneliest time of day."

In the last several weeks, as my country has plunged into a new kind of war, I've returned often to listen to the Band song "Twilight". Listening to Rick's haunting voice, the lyrics have taken on a new level of poignancy.

I am reminded that, on a cold January day in Washington, some forty years ago, President John F. Kennedy described the Cold War against communism as "a long twilight struggle". Now, as we enter another long period of twilight, I hope our friends around the world join us in this fight against the darkness that threatens everyone around the globe.

Here is an except from President Kennedy's Inaugural Address on January 20, 1961:

"In your hands, my fellow citizens, more than mine, will rest the final success or failure of our course. Since this country was founded, each generation of Americans has been summoned to give testimony to its national loyalty. The graves of young Americans who answered the call to service surround the globe."

"Now the trumpet summons us again--not as a call to bear arms, though arms we need; not as a call to battle, though embattled we are--but a call to bear the burden of a long twilight struggle, year in and year out, 'rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation'--a struggle against the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself."

"Can we forge against these enemies a grand and global alliance, North and South, East and West, that can assure a more fruitful life for all mankind? Will you join in that historic effort?"

"In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility--I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it--and the glow from that fire can truly light the world."

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."

"My fellow citizens of world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

Posted on Wed Oct 10 19:47:00 CEST 2001 from (195.202.182.162)

DJ OCTAVIA

great site *smile* hence i feel free und leave my trail: hey folks :-) as i was freeclimbing a few weeks ago the mountains und the winds inspirited me to COMPOSE NEW SONGS. if you are interested in MY MUSIC then taste it ;o). it´s a HARD stuff for a WOMAN but it´s my way to enjoy living.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 19:15:54 CEST 2001 from (158.72.70.250)

Steve H.

On the subject of Ryan Adams, I saw him on Letterman a week ago. The nephew of a friend of mine was playing acoustic with him on the show. (He was on Adams' left, shook hands with Letterman.) The nephews name is Paul Burch and I urge anyone with an interest in country to check out his album "Last of My Kind" which is excellent. The song "Polio" has a kind of Basement Tapes chorus.

My friend went up to NYC the night before Letterman to see Adams play. Paul's band opened the show and Elton John sat in for a number or two with Adams. My friend sat around the dressing room while Elton hung out but was too nervous to say, "I really liked you up till 1984, after that you sucked."

Posted on Wed Oct 10 18:59:17 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

This is a fun article...click on the link. I wonder what Levon and Garth request for their dressing rooms??? Anybody know??? I am trying to keep it light today. I think this GB is starting to get a swing in it's step again...thanks to Jan. I agree with Hank....why would anyone want to "dis" The Band???

Posted on Wed Oct 10 17:27:40 CEST 2001 from (203.54.77.165)

Fritz

Hank,

A couple of years ago you sent me the chords to "Katie's Been Gone". I just wanna say thanks again. It's a beautiful song. And you helped me to appreciate it fully by sending me the chords.

Thanks, Hank.

Fritz

Posted on Wed Oct 10 17:23:08 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.199)

bob wigo

BEG,

Don't get yourself all in a dither now. My thoughts on Louuuu are for entertainment purposes only.

Something tells me Garth and Maude didn't pick up the phone to ask Louuuu to be there. Let's see Maude, we could really use an accomplished musician to handle these guitar parts and the vocals have a pretty demanding range (Garth smacks himself flush on the forehead with an open hand)....of course, Louuuuu !!!!

As for Louuu's explanation of "Metal Machine Music" -- Nothing more artistic than a big "F*** You" to your fans. Except maybe a 5' x 10' acrylic rendering of a Campbell's soup can !

To his credit he is in a league all his own......the least musical rock star of an entire generation. Louuu should definitely be waving Old Glory these days. He could only happen in America.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 16:53:03 CEST 2001 from (206.172.191.88)

Richard Patterson

I found a great link for fans of Woody Guthrie (I know there's a few here!). The American Folklife Center's Woody Guthrie Manuscript Collection is now available online through the Library of Congress American Memory Web site at the Web page link above.

The Woody Guthrie Manuscript Collection includes correspondence between Woody Guthrie and staff of the Archive of American Folk Song (now the Archive of Folk Culture, American Folklife Center) at the Library of Congress, written primarily in the early 1940s, shortly after Guthrie had moved to New York City and met the Archive's Assistant in Charge, Alan Lomax. Although Guthrie pursued broadcasting and recording careers, meeting a cadre of artists and activists and gaining a reputation as a talented and influential songwriter and performer, this collection highlights his talents as a writer of prose. These occasionally, illustrated reflections on his past, his art, his life in New York City, and the looming Second World War provide unique insight into the artist best-known for his role as "Dust Bowl balladeer."

The online presentation contains fifty-three items (eighty-four pages) of manuscript material by, about, and to Woody Guthrie, 1940-50, and includes a biographical essay by Guthrie scholar Mark Jackson; a timeline of Guthrie's life; and an encoded finding aid of archival materials featuring Woody Guthrie at the Library of Congress.

Re: The Guest Book Mk II. I agree with Chris. The fact that posts were appearing almost as fast as they do in the chatroom was leading to too many thoughtless entries and one on one conversations. I like that the new pace encourages more carefully considered entries. I also think that the instuction "Entries containing Javascripts will be rejected" is kind of cute : ).

Posted on Wed Oct 10 16:18:22 CEST 2001 from (207.61.221.19)

Lawrence Brissenden

Whispering Pines

I enjoyed reading Peter Viney's article on Whispering Pines. I would like to add that the song's title probably could be taken two ways. The word "pine" is both a noun (a type of tree) and an intransitive verb meaning "to languish" or "to yearn intensely... for something unattainable" (from Webster.com). I think Robbie skillfully plays on both meanings but the emphasis is on latter ("to languish", "to yearn") and not the former because the majority of the images in the song are water related ("the sea", "the well", or "the rains").

I believe the song on one level is a straightforward narrative about someone who has lost his love. I'm also sure that Robbie was also making a subtle comment on his friend Richard and his predicament in life. Richard's almost "whispering" vocal is so quietly emotive that I can really feel how "unattainable" his wish to be re-united with his loved one is at the end of the song.

Even if my interpretation wrong, I hope anyone reading this comment is inspired to listen closely to this great song.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 09:03:13 CEST 2001 from (131.36.117.33)

Bones

Hello from far east tokyo. I found some pics of Levon & RCO ALL STARS Japan tour '78. Pls check this address.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 06:21:08 CEST 2001 from (64.230.43.171)

brown eyed girl

He may not have been invited to TLW.....but he was invited to join the ROLLING THUNDER REVIEW.........He declined the offer........but did make it to BOB FEST...........singing.......Dylan's FOOT OF PRIDE.........Isn't he also invited to join Garth and Maud next month?.......He really respected "Doc" Pomus as a writer.......It must have been very difficult for him to visit "Doc" in the hospital when it was only a matter of time...........

"I put out METAL MACHINE MUSIC precisely to put a stop to all of it. It was a giant fuck-you. I wanted to clear the air and get rid of all those fucking assholes who show up at the show and yell VICIOUS and WALK ON THE WILD SIDE. It wasn't ill advised at all. It did what it was supposed to do"............Hmmmmmm......Sonic Youth were influenced by this recording, right?:-D

It's interesting that this artist has been publicly belittled for having substance abuse problems.......when he has been clean for many years.......He is a SURVIVOR.......He also continues to write his own songs and perform live..........and I would say I observed him becoming more socially aware and willing to address social issues............since he became part of VOICES OF FREEDOM for Amnesty International........

I guess we also know of other artists that are discussed in this guestbook that also had similar problems????? I'm sure that you could name them easily without doing any research..........;-D

At the beginning of 1981, he joined both Alcoholics and Narcotics Anonymous............"The last thing in the world I would be interested in is blowing it, on a personal-health level. I think drugs are the single most terrible thing, and if I thought there was anything I could do which I thought might be effective in stopping people dealing drugs and taking them, I would do it. I just think it's the worst conceivable thing in the world. Before, I DIDN'T CARE. Speaking for myself, I could not continue that way. When DRUGS and LIQUOR TURN ON YOU, IT BECOMES DEBILITATING rather than energizing or making you more focused. Then it's just a terrible jumble. So I had to set about starting at square one again."...............

Many thanks again Crabby for the photo you sent........ya know this artist has that Brooklyn/Long Island sense of humour and wit........just like yours...:-DD

Posted on Wed Oct 10 04:11:08 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.86)

Diamond Lil

Thanks to everyone who responded to my hypothetical question. I appreciated hearing your thoughts. As always, it's Jan who decides what's best here, but I was kind of interested in what all of you had to say. And although the opinions differed, there's one thing that we all seem to agree on. There's no place like home.

I want to wish a Happy Birthday to my good friend Chris in Cincinatti today. A great guy who puts up with my incessant talking..and is probably one of Levon's biggest fans. Have a great day Chris!

I've been missing Rick alot these past few days. Perhaps it's the cold autumn air..or just an overwhelming urge to see his smile again..or feel the comfort of his advice...or hear the echo of his laughter. Whatever it is, it's relentless right now...and it's nice to have a place to go where others understand that. Thanks. Hug Jan.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 04:11:07 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

I just saw your post, MattK, and echo your opinion that the internet is so wide open that, by its very nature, it can be so easily abused. People who post on forums like this, or people you share email with,or go into chatrooms with can claim to be anybody. Which is why most parents try to teach the kids to be cautious when navigating the "brave new world". Also, I too have likened the "War on Terrorism" as only the latest of such slogans. we have the never-ending "War on Drugs", the "War On Poverty", and back in the 70's "The War on Inflation" was a popular one. I'm sure there are others, but note that these "wars" are always "against" some institution, and are essentially unwinnable. Just some thoughts I felt like sharing.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 03:25:15 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.164)

Bayou Sam

Nice post Chris.

The best thing we can do to help is to TRY to ignore the fools that have, and will continue to set down in here for every now and then. Speaking for myself - I've looked at the "new" GB setup as a necessary move by Jan. I also think it's incredibly nice of him to have gone to these lengths to keep this thing going, rather than throw his hands up in discust and shut the thing down altogether - which is what those "baddies" want to happen.

I think - I know I mean - that Jan knows how much most of us appreciate his efforts, and love visiting the 'ol GB everyday.

So let's not analyze the shit out of it - and just respect and enjoy it.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 03:22:24 CEST 2001 from (63.15.114.248)

Hi

I also think the GB should not return to its previous incarnation.....plus I don't believe paxil "cured" Java or his friend of anything...the new format did....IMNSHO.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 02:51:29 CEST 2001 from (206.187.219.40)

Elly

Toujours. J'ai mal a la gorge. Mais je t'assiste. La situation jamais encore. C'est necessaire pour moi a assister le mond et toi aussi. Tu est mon amour. Si tu est un bonne fils. Avoir..T'aime. le

Posted on Wed Oct 10 02:37:43 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.90)

Hank

.........It's a measure of the kind of Badness there is in The World that there would be people who would be so ill-intentioned towards The Band...or towards the people who post here out of love and admiration...I mean, the individuals of The Band had issues like all of us but their gig was just so good and their records were chill out and relax and get up and dance, shake it.......insulting them and their memory is soooo lame......just plain badness..........I know people who use TLW to get over death, divorce and long division, y'know?.......I mean, I can perfectly understand how The Beatles would induce weirdness in people or Elvis or Janis or Jimi or The Dead or The Stones or Dylan or Jim Morrison or Lou Reed or Kurt Cobain or The Sex Pistols or Bowie or U2 or even Joan Baez......Very provocative people....But The Band?.........they're too busy getting the songs together to lay a trip on you and they sing and play so beautiful for you.....plus they knew how to Rock'n'Roll for REAL...they paid some heavy dues along the way.......how could you POSSIBLY have a problem with THAT?

But Hey!......what do I know?

The fact that The GB is monitered now is a reflection of the times......The Hazy, Crazy Daze of a New War........It's like the whole world is running around the place like a Global Homer Simpson......."Jesus! Allah! Buddha!......I Love You All"..........it's BOUND to affect us......even here. Those nasty posters of yore were on the evil vibe that seems to be ruling The World right now or lately...........plain and simple........

So, Yeah.....it stands to reason that The GB 'ain't what it used to be'.......but let's endeavor to make it better and as enjoyable as we can these days and nights.............If Jan feels this is better, we have no choice but to go with it........fine by me.......although, to be honest, I would not want to BE a Moniter or moderator...........

OK.....as I was saying before being interupted by a whole day and a half.......how many of you would have the guts to go up to Joan Baez at a party or in the pub and tell her what you thought of her destruction of 'Dixie'?......not one manjack of you, I reckon.......... or womanjackie of you, for that matter......she tear the head off ya, I'd say.....as they say 'round here....No, I wouldn't relish it either, meself........

Ha!.......title of essay or song 'The Night Joanie Drove The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down Down'.......

Yeah?

Nah........

OK........it's time for bed said Dougal

Posted on Wed Oct 10 02:08:06 CEST 2001 from (209.214.117.75)

BWNWITennessee

Has anyone heard about a benefit show in New Jersey where Bruce Springsteen is going to be playing with Scotty Moore and D.J. Fontana? I heard something on the radio, it's at a club, and it sold out immediately, of course, but I've been unable to find any more info on it. Scotty Moore lives in the same city as me and never ever plays around town, but he'll go on tour in Europe. Go figure. There's also the benefit show in NYC with a ton of people, and the big Led Zeppelin reunion rumors.

For all you rabid Dylan fans who leapt out of your chairs to buy the Hank Williams tribute CD, Dylan's also got a new cut on the Sun Records tribute, also featuring Page and Plant, Mandy Barnett, and a bunch of others. Dylan's song is "Red Cadillac and a Black Moustache."

Anybody heard the new Spiritualized?

Posted on Wed Oct 10 00:42:38 CEST 2001 from (206.77.150.207)

pehr

I am for the moderated GB, at least for now. I dont trust myself to ignore some flames. I think its working well now.enjoying it being back so much. thanks Jan and all

Posted on Wed Oct 10 00:08:37 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

This weeks Entertainment Weekly has the best 100 soundtracks(according to them, at least). The Last Waltz is # 64, right after Taxi Driver and right before Jailhouse Rock. Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid, one of my favorite westerns and soundtrack, is #22.

Posted on Wed Oct 10 00:03:51 CEST 2001 from (24.159.101.52)

Don Pugatch

Listening live on the net to WFUV today, replay of the John Lennon interview with Dennis Elsas from 1974, when Dennis was a DJ at WNEW FM. Last comment from John, I just want to be a regular guy living in NYC I do not hurt anybody, make sometimes too much noise, make some music, but cannot do any damage to anyone. Happy Birthday, John.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 23:01:25 CEST 2001 from (64.12.103.158)

Joe

I'm all for it Lil.......I also think a reminder should be posted everyday for the new posters, and the veterans. Otherwise some soon forget.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 22:49:21 CEST 2001 from (64.12.103.171)

bob wigo

MattK, I am most interested in hearing about the alternatives you mentioned in your last post. What does your "War on Terrorism" consist of ? I don't mean that question to sound brusque. I am genuinely interested in your viewpoint.

I am still reeling from the responses to my expressed ardor for putting a halt to our ridiculously lenient immigration policies. The arguments came from many GBers citing our rich history of ethnic diversity. I continue to wonder how many of those 18th, 19th and early 20th century immigrants passed through Ellis Island with a briefcase packed with plastic explosives, airport security rosters, flight schedules, maps with targets highlighted and wills already drawn.

I bring up this subject purely out of frustration at the lack of a better response than the one we are now issuing. There are some very bright and articulate visitors here and I am more than curious to hear their views on this complex issue.

On a musical note I've been listening to Jeff Beck's "Truth" album featuring Rod Stewart with Ron Wood, Micky Waller, Aynsley Dunbar,John Paul Jones and Keith Moon. This is , without question , one of the finest blues records ever cut. If you are familiar with it ,as many here are I'm sure, give it another listen. The remastered edition is excellent. If you are not..then go on out and buy yourself an early Christmas present that will rock your plimsoul.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 22:33:09 CEST 2001 from (205.188.196.57)

Brien Sz

I have a feeling people are going to tire of Air strikes, if they continue to see Taliban leaders and bin Laden on video and tv the next day basically saying "nah nah, you missed". If we aren't willing to take a bloody nose then we have no business fighting at all. As far as i'm concerned Vietnam and all it's fears, et al.., died on 9-11-01!

Posted on Tue Oct 9 22:07:16 CEST 2001 from (130.67.112.175)

Dag

Re: the new Ringo Starr DVD, here's some info from amazon.com:

The Best of Ringo Starr & His All Starr Band So Far...(2001)

Introduction by Paul McCartney, Honey Don't (Ringo Starr), Iko Iko (Dr. John), The Weight (Levon Helm), Photograph (Ringo Starr), Don't Go Where the Road Don't Go (Ringo Starr), Rocky Mountain Way (Joe Walsh), No No Song (Ringo Starr), Bang the Drum All Day (Todd Rundgren), You're 16 (Ringo Starr), Yellow Submarine (Ringo Starr), I Wanna Be Your Man (Ringo Starr), Groovin' (Felix Cavaliere), You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet (Randy Bachman), Boys (Ringo Starr), It Don't Come Easy (Ringo Starr), Sunshine of Your Love (Jack Bruce), Norwegian Wood (Peter Frampton), A Whiter Shade of Pale (Gary Booker), All Right Now (Simon Kirke), Act Naturally (Ringo Starr), With a Little Help From My Friends (Ringo Starr).

Posted on Tue Oct 9 22:30:22 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

I think Chris made some good points re the "new" guestbook. I would add another thought:there was an individual(or two or more, sometimes I suspected that multiple personalities were arguing with each other) who was very, very determined to wreak serious havoc around here. They also seemed to have an awful lot of time on their hands. I think maybe if they had been seriously ignored, shunned even, long ago, it maybe would have been effective. I don't think any amount of ignoring would dissuade them now if they are given an opening. I definitely prefer the faster guestbook, but so far this new system seems to be working. The biggest consideration, as always,should be whatever Jan wants to do.Acouple good questions for him, and the moderators,would be:have you guys had to block any posts out? a few, alot? Also, how much more of your time and work has this new system consumed? I would guess a good deal.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 20:56:39 CEST 2001 from (213.113.198.202)

Markku (Quos)

Robbie's current activities, wasn't there some talk about a new The Band rarities box he was preparing as well???

Anyway I hope he will put out some new music too!

Posted on Tue Oct 9 20:38:00 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Fans of Leonard Cohen have cause to rejoice. The Field Commander has just released his first studio album in nine years, appropriately titled "Ten New Songs" (Columbia). This is a true collaborative effort with Sharon Robinson, who adds her lovely vocals, co-writes, adds the instrumental backing and production. This meditative collection of songs, in light of recent events in the world, couldn't have come at a better time.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 20:10:56 CEST 2001 from (209.202.100.68)

Bill

Thanks for the Thanksgiving wishes we Canadians received. On the subject of specific traditions, JTull Fan, aside from eating a big dead bird, the main thing is to gather together with family or friends. If the former, you quarrel; if the latter, you complain.

On another subject, I'm among those glad to see that Wazmo Nariz is not totally forgotten. I've kept my IRS sampler LP (cassette, actually, on the Saudi Arabian happy-foot label) just for "Lips". Funny, but there's a Klark Kent cut on it too.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 19:43:22 CEST 2001 from (209.100.37.239)

Chris

Whine...whine...whine!

So the board is being moderated. So what. Posts take a little longer to hit...some of those with less than good intentions may never see their posts. But the main point is that you have somewhere to post.

In this mad mad world where everyone is in a hurry maybe we could embrace the slower pace of the board. Take some more time to consider your response to inflammatory posts or simply craft a better post so that we could all be more challenged to respond. Let's look on the bright side (cue Monty Python song) of life.

Anyone hear the new McCartney single.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 18:50:52 CEST 2001 from (24.4.252.8)

Chris D.

Well I just got home from The Delta. My head is still spinning and my body shaking from the power of The Barnburners performance in Helena!! Thank you Levon and The Barnburners!!! I have seen them now about 8 times and they never sounded better! Chis had the levy shaking and Pats guitar work was some of the finest I've witnessed. Levon was looking and sounding like a man on a serious blues mission for the home crowd. Most of all it looked like the whole band was having a hell of a good time. Don't ask me how I did it but I got to be right up there on stage for the ultimate experience. Although they rushed Levon to his car faster than they ever rushed Elvis out of a building, I did get to say hello and shake hands. Levon is the south, Levon is the blues and The Barnburners are the real thing! If you ever get a chance, just pack your stuff and go to the King Biscuit Blues Festival!! That's all for now. I burned up to many brain cells Sundaynight on Beale Street to post anymore. I've already decided to make it an annual event, so I'll see you there next time Butch. Thanks!

Posted on Tue Oct 9 18:00:09 CEST 2001 from (140.212.204.26)

Akio Mihara

I found today with CBC that Robbie Robertson's propgram is not for sales. In another word, CBC did not plan to release this program as their product due to music licenses issue. I am very interested in watching this. Does someone record to the tape ? Please advise.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 17:46:07 CEST 2001 from (142.166.212.130)

Stank Williams

Hi. I'm not a huge fan of tribute albums, but does anybody know if there are any, still in print, to The Band? It's all a little hazy, but I was half asleep driving to work a couple of years ago and was listening to CBC 1. I'm pretty sure I heard an awesome version of Get Up Jake by Bruce Cockburn. Where can a person get a copy of this? I suppose I write the station, but here I am, and here's the guestbook... Thanks!

Posted on Tue Oct 9 17:32:06 CEST 2001 from (24.198.96.38)

MattK

I think it's all well and good to support a "war" on terrorism. In the end, I think most people recognize this newest phraseology for the vapid sloganism it represents. The more critical question is what does one mean when one says "war on terrorism?" The current climate seems to imply that the choice is "blow up their sh*t" vs. "do nothing." I would hope that most of my friends here are intelligent enough to recognize there are a huge range of options between "doing nothing" and shredding a bunch of antiquated Soviet tanks and blowing rubble from on side of the street in Kabul to the other.

On Lil's note, perhaps it's my newly acquired nihilism, but personally, I don't think we can be trusted. I'm of the opinion that we've crossed a line already here that we can't pull back from. I'm not a big fan of the "moderated" guestbook, but then again, I think the GB as we know died a couple weeks back never to return.

The greatness of the GB was the nature of its spirited debates, even if occasionally some of us (including myself) might walk away in a huff to grab some perspective. Under the honor system, we'd simply be wringing our hands wondering what constitutes "out of line" behavior, which argument would lead to the final shutdown.

What happens the next time Java forgets his meds? What happens the next time Jarp/Patricia takes on a new personality? Fact is, the internet is an open portal of information, and the honor system simply won't work.

Short of instituting a registration system, which I'm sure Jan has little-to-no interest in maintaining, I suspect there are only two options here. Shut it down because it "ain't what it used to be," or recognize that it "ain't what it used" to be and adjust our collective expectations accordingly.

One final consideration/recommendation for Jan might be to consider threading the GB (which has been discussed before). Perhaps Jan could assign individuals moderator status on specific threads to help divvy up the workload, which might speed up the process a bit. Plus, it would allow individuals with specific interests/agendas to focus their attention, lowering the white noise factor in the big GB, and perhaps minimizing the blow-ups.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 15:12:13 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.203)

bob wigo

Twilight, I agree. Whatever "it" is Ryan Adams has it. But I don't like his new album. I'll email my address in order to facilitate payment of the fifteen dollars. That is if some psycho who makes it through the Hepa filters doesn't post it here first !!

Personally, I believe Crabby's last post was the coolest post ever. Ah hell, I admit it, I say that to all the atheists.

///o-o\\\ fans should check out Ken Kesey's Demon Box (1986). There's a beautifully written piece on Lennon whom Kesey held in the highest regard.

I still can't figure out Louuuuu's conspicuous absence from The Last Waltz. The show coincided perfectly with his musically triumphant "Metal Machine Music" and would have been a delightful live presentation for The Band. And I'm certain Scorcese could have airbrushed that needle hanging out of Louuuuu's arm with the same deft touch he used on Neil Young's schnoz. No sense crying over spilt feedback though.

Jan and Lil please count me in. We desperately need the spontaneity of dynamic conversation here. Bless you for your efforts.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 14:56:37 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

I couldn't agree more with Lil's last post. Scroll by. Don't react...... and I think we can go back to normal. Let's face it.....people put up "bad" posts just to get a reaction. I admit to reacting and getting upset. Let's let them go by. Respond by personal e-mail if you have to. I think it may work. Otherwise Jan will shut it down for good, I think.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 12:31:29 CEST 2001 from (63.42.150.235)

King Whisle

Up with the new baby early early this morning, I caught a re-run of SCTV on NBC television (USA). Very much to my suprise, there was a guest spot with Levon. He took part in a skit and performed Eddie Cochrane/Jerry Capehart's "Summertime Blues". Happened too quickly to capture it on VCR, but cool to see nonetheless. Looked to be from the early 80's. Hank: Gene Clark is vastly underrated. I'm listening to "The Fantastic Expedition of Dillard & Clark" now. Very warm record (reissued on Edsel with 3 bonus tracks, 2000. I even like his songs on the Byrds reunion album (1973).

Posted on Tue Oct 9 08:42:45 CEST 2001 from (64.12.102.29)

Dave

Rich: Ryan Adams is the frontman for a band called Whiskeytown when he's not going 'solo.' Check 'em out...and check out The Old 97's while yer at it. They both have Band roots and rhythms. Ryan passed thru Pittsburgh recently...great show.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 06:56:02 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.174)

Tommy

Hey folks, Im back a day early..IT'S COLD IN THEM THAR HILLS!!!Upstate New York's mountains are a BITCH when its twenty degrees out,so we wimped out and came home early.

On the way upstate, we heard on the news about the bombings and war.Ahhh..we figured we'd be safe in the mountains, but right where we were is West Point, Stewart Airport and some other military training camp.Oof!No one's safe I guess.Good luck people, let's all make it through this alive!

On a band note,I still don't have the Garth cd!!!!!

Posted on Tue Oct 9 05:56:56 CEST 2001 from (142.150.192.4)

Rapture

AHHHHH I NEED HELP- WHICH ONE OF THE BAND MEMBERS OWNS A LITTLE BUSINESS CALLED THE DANCING BEAR AND HAS A SON NAMED ALEX????? PLEASE!!!!! ACK

Posted on Tue Oct 9 04:31:35 CEST 2001 from (64.230.39.232)

brown eyed girl

As the Canadian Thanksgiving is winding down I watched TLW with my mother for the very first time together..........She was not disappointed when one of her favourite Canadian performers came on stage........Toronto's Neil Young!..........I asked her who was her other favourite performer from this infamous evening..........without hesitating she replied .........DYLAN! (She always used to mimick Dylan whenever she heard ALL I REALLY WANT TO DO)........BTW........She also kept asking at the beginning of the concert who was the really good looking performer.......maybe you should tell her G-Man?? ;-D

I want to give THANKS AND PRAISES to all THE BAND MEMBERS.........ROBBIE.......for his mesmermizing guitar licks, amazing communication skills and for inspiration to Native People and to those of us who will continue MAKING A NOISE IN THIS WORLD..........RICK.........for singing with a big heart and being environmentally friendly.........RICHARD.........for bringing soul to the group and for sharing his acute sensitivity with all of us..........GARTH........for being a musicians' musician and sharing his musical skills with the group and taking them to places unimaginable..........and to the adopted Canadian........LEVON........for singing in his own southern voice, playing drums with precision and passion and for his intoxicating smile............with his present group..........The Barn Burners!

Posted on Tue Oct 9 04:02:17 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.186)

Bayou Sam

Gene = you have done, EASILY, the coolest post ever.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 03:58:30 CEST 2001 from (204.235.229.62)

Adela V. Calbillo

Hello everyone... Just wanted to say hi to Jan and to say that in times of trouble, I sure am glad The Band exists and I hope Levon, Garth and the musicmakers are doing well. I'm not feeling too well these days for obvious reasons and it's nice to always be able to turn to this website for the memories. Am still performing "The Weight" with my band and am proud to do so. This song, about the impossibility of sainthood, rings more true than ever these days. Let's all be good to each other, ok?

Posted on Tue Oct 9 03:56:23 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.186)

Bayou Sam

October 9 - Happy 61st Birthday to John Lennon - wherever you are.

"You were the one who Imagined it all, all those years ago"

Posted on Tue Oct 9 03:56:17 CEST 2001 from (206.14.153.187)

Joe

Steve S mentions Garth's brithday speech being better than his acceptance speech at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Pretty funny. On a serious note, well, sort of serious, OK not very serious at all, I've looked & failed to find any transcripts and/or reviews of acceptance speeches for that 1994 induction ceremony. One reference I've found talks briefly about Bob Weir's comments (while he was standing next to a life-sized cut-out of Jerry Garcia who wasn't at the ceremony). Weir reportely talked about drug laws that have unjustly resulted in lots of folks doing prison time. Does anybody have any additional knowledge about what the Band or Grateful Dead said in their respective acceptance speeches at this 1994 HOF event? Please let me know. Thanks

Posted on Tue Oct 9 03:35:06 CEST 2001 from (24.25.179.110)

MattK

I know Crabby will be heartbroken to read this, but RR's guestbook over on the Capitol site has been taken down and replaced with another band. The point of interest here is what it means to RR's recording situation. We've postulated as to the status of RR's recording contract now that he's doing A/R work for Dreamworks.

Hopefully this simply marks the end of his association with Capitol (now that all the Band re-masters on Capitol are complete) and not indicative of his future (or lack thereof) as a recording artist. Speaking I know for *some* of us, I do hope we'll see some new material from him at some point in the future--perhaps once the TLW DVD is completed, and Nicky Love is firmly ensconsced in the pantheon of jiggly pop singers from down under...

Posted on Tue Oct 9 03:08:52 CEST 2001 from (204.39.227.49)

Twilight

Ryan Adams is well worth a listen. He was in a band called Whiskeytown - I think they are no more. Whatever "it" is - he's got it. I'll gladly send you $15 if you don't like his new album. His previous one is excellent as well. Great rockers, unbelievable ballads. Take a chance on this guy.

Posted on Tue Oct 9 03:07:51 CEST 2001 from (216.37.189.244)

Diamond Lil

Hypothetical Question: If Jan was to consent to giving us one more shot at a 'normal', unmoderated gb.. would the majority of us be willing to scroll past posts intended to give us knee-jerk reactions..without reacting? It seems that the 'bad' posts (which are always in the minority) get alot more attention then they're worth.. which is what the poster was looking for to begin with. Perhaps we should keep in mind that it wouldn't be much fun to rile up people who refuse to get riled.

I mention this because the general consensus here seems to be that the gb has lost it's spontaniety with this new, moderated version. It's difficult to have any type of flowing discussion without the immediacy of posting. And the feeling of "community" is suffering.

I'd really like to hear people's thoughts on this. Could this gb work with the majority of posters agreeing not to let the occasional idiocy get to them....therefore taking the stress off Jan so he can kick his probable daily mega-dose of aspirin habit from the headaches that come from barrages of e-mails complaining to him? I think it could.. if we agree to _not_ let it get to us anymore. I think it's our only last shot at 'normalcy' folks. Let's show Jan that we _can_ do this. I'll do my part. Anyone else?

Posted on Tue Oct 9 03:01:08 CEST 2001 from (63.46.151.237)

Crabgrass

The alternative to the War On Terrorism is Rampant Terrorism.

Of course, we could also all go out and buy ourselves prayer mats and long black veils.

(See, this post IS Band related after all!!)

Posted on Mon Oct 8 23:31:26 CEST 2001 from (203.96.152.183)

ajr

Dear Moderators

Thank you for your efforts which I know are well intentioned. Jan may do as he wishes here but I have to say I do not think this new format is conducive to conversation or to community. The immediacy was part of what made this place magic even if it did mean having to put up with flaming idiocy from time to time.

Yours

ajr

Posted on Mon Oct 8 23:02:51 CEST 2001 from (150.208.146.254)

Ron Helm

Levon: I regret that we could not make it to King Biscuit... Our CD - Miracle at a Reasonable Price is complete. I will forward you a copy and/or catch you down the road... It was GREAT to visit with you and Lee Roy at B.B. King's in Memphis. My son (Dylan) enjoyed meeting you!

Posted on Mon Oct 8 20:45:18 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

Anybody hear anything more on Robbie's first two records being reissued?? They were probably straight forward reissues. I don't think they ever went out-of-print, but Geffen Records is now labeled under Universal I think, so maybe the labels are different from my copies.

Butch: What is Miss Amy doing these days??

Posted on Mon Oct 8 20:16:03 CEST 2001 from (4.20.68.20)

Rich

Last Friday night, WFUV (local NPR station out of Fordham U in NY) re-played an interview with Ryan Adams, whom I'd never heard of. Very articulate about the state of the music business and rock radio today. Anyway, along the way he states "Dylan is my favorite songwriter and the Band is my favorite band" and goes on to talk about some songs on his earlier albums that were influenced by the Band.

Rita Houston, the interviewer, agrees that the Band is her favorite also. Then he plays a song called "Answering Bells" from his current album that is unmistakably Band-like.

Wondering if anyone is familiar with this guy, or his current album, which is called "Gold". From what I heard, it definitely sounds like it's worth a serious listen.

Posted on Mon Oct 8 19:23:44 CEST 2001 from (12.33.178.246)

Twilight

"You shoulda been there..." JOL 1940/1980. Thanks for one of this guestbooks greatest posts Gene, and thanks for the tip.

Posted on Mon Oct 8 19:10:28 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.100)

Hank

///o-o\\\ or

///O-O\\\ or

///0-0\\\ or

wha?......Nice One, Gene....did you make that up?....does Yoko know?......

Winston O'Boogie.......

Lennon in "Eat The Document"........'Don't Look Back' and 'Eat the Document' are like alternatives to 'A Hard Days Night' and 'Help'..........

I know Joan Baez gets alot of flak here for her version of "Dixie"......but she's formidable lassie....I wonder if anyone here has ever said it to her face:

'Hey Joanie! Your version of 'Dixie' sucks and ya got ALL the words wrong and it's NOT a sing-along.......now go stand in the corner".....

I doubt if even her most vociferous critic would even dare!.....who here, that hates her version of 'Dixie', would have the guts to say it to her face if they met her say at a party or in the pub?........no one would, I'd say....I've been watching this Hard Rain Video and The Rolling Thunder TV gig in Clearwater Florida......... She's really great singing with Bob.....I get the impression she's a tough cookie......now, I do NOT like her version of 'Dixie', either but I guess if she walked into the pub and someone said 'Hey Hank!...back Joanie up while she sings 'Dixie', yeah?'.....Well, of COURSE I would.......but I'd grab a verse off her and sang it like Levon..........her version of 'Diamonds and Rust' at the Clearwater TV gig knocks me out....really well played and beautifully sung..........

Posted on Mon Oct 8 17:34:47 CEST 2001 from (64.230.34.78)

brown eyed girl

WAR

What is it good for?
Absolutely Nothing
WAR
What is it good for?
Absolutely Nothing

WAR is something that I despise
For it means destruction of innocent lives
For it means tears in thousands of mothers' eyes
When their sons (and daughters) go out to fight to give their lives

WAR

What is it good for?
Absolutely Nothing
Say it again
WAR
What is it good for?
Absolutely Nothing

WAR

It's nothing but a heartbreaker
WAR
Friend only to the undertaker
WAR is the enemy of all mankind (humankind)
The thought of WAR blows my mind
Handed down from generation to generation
Induction Destruction
Who wants to die?

WAR

What is it good for?
Absolutely Nothing
Say it again
WAR
What is it good for?
Absolutely Nothing

WAR has shattered many young man's (people's) dreams
Made them disabled, bitter and mean
Life is too precious to be fighting WARS each day
WAR can't give life, it can only take it away

WAR

It's nothing but a heartbreaker
WAR
Friend only to the undertaker
Peace, love and understanding
There must be some place for these things today
THEY SAY WE MUST FIGHT TO KEEP OUR FREEDOM
But Lord there's gotta be a better way
That's better than WAR

WAR

WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
SAY IT AGAIN
WAR
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

WAR....sung by Edwin Starr and covered by Bruuuuuuce........written by Strong, Whiffield, Starr

I was listening to Shaggy on Canada's MuchMusic after the WTC bombing because he actually experienced first hand what it was like to serve your country during the Gulf War.........(The singer Shaggy grew up in Jamaica but moved to Brooklyn, New York and now apparently lives on Long Island)................and I totally agreed with him when he said that when politicians go on about a low casuality WAR........It's not low casuality......when it's your family who loses their son or daughter!!........

I would also like to say that as an educator......btw......Friday was WORLD TEACHER DAY.........(I know there are other teachers who post here)...........How am I going to explain to my students that our world leaders aren't capable of solving problems without more violence?? Why should our youth believe in co-operation, understanding and creative problem solving......... when they see daily that we are hypocrits ourselves???......Yes......JUSTICE must take place for the innocent lives that were taken.........but WAR is the only answer?

Posted on Mon Oct 8 16:54:00 CEST 2001 from (61.9.160.79)

peter

Fantastic music. A Beautiful website.

Posted on Mon Oct 8 16:17:54 CEST 2001 from (216.179.3.134)

Gene

///o-o\\\

9 - Oct - 1940

Posted on Mon Oct 8 14:44:20 CEST 2001 from (207.251.204.133)

G-MAN

Happy Canadian "Thanksgiving" to all our friends in the Great North Country!! Brown-eyed Gal--three out ah 4 ain't bad!!! Lookin for more POSTS on "THE BARNBURNERS", ......King B show????????????

Posted on Mon Oct 8 14:11:46 CEST 2001 from (24.186.18.200)

Diamond Lil

Peter: One of my first instincts when I heard that war had broken out yesterday, was to come to this gb and post. I realized however that since noone seems to have mentioned current events since the gb re-opened, perhaps it's all better just left unsaid. The reality is all around us.. this is an escape in a way.

And so..my only comment will be that I hope things can be resolved with as little loss of innocent life as possible.

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Mon Oct 8 12:00:04 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.25)

Peter Viney

Record labels: Just bought the new Dr John, “Creole Moon’ and he’s still on a major label, EMI (Parlophone). I would have thought hewasn’t far different from 1990s Band in status, but looking back he’s stayed on major labels most of the time, and is doing a UK tour of proper halls this month. On suitable labels for a great blues band, I’m very impressed with the quality and range of Telarc Blues recently. Even their samplers are great.

In these weird times, I did find it strange that no one went to the GB and commented yesterday when war broke out. Though we don't want to get into a long discussion with zero relevance to The Band, I'd just say, Let's stand together against a genuine evil, and my hopes and thoughts are with all the people in our forces.

Posted on Mon Oct 8 10:35:12 CEST 2001 from (205.188.197.59)

Joe

"American Axe".....I received the book about 2 weeks ago but haven't had a chance to read it yet. Bob Berman, a writer/musician himself, from Westchester County in N.Y., is a long time friend of mine and was a close friend of Roy Buchanan, has contributed an interview and a couple photos for the book.

Posted on Mon Oct 8 04:39:17 CEST 2001 from (209.179.41.97)

Steven M.

Amid all the darkness, a ray a light I played a wedding this weekend. Nothing special about that. However before the ceremony the bride and groom asked us to play- "Twilight", "Caravan", "Masterpiece", and as the rabbi walked up the aisle, "The Last Waltz Theme". When the ceremony ended, we were directed to play "Such A Night". A beautiful wedding, that I'll never forget, and I don't even Know the happy couple.

Posted on Mon Oct 8 03:47:06 CEST 2001 from (152.163.213.213)

Dave Z

Thanks Steve S for the Garth B.D. story... Tommy, have fun in the mountains... and stay warm... the best part of vacations might be coming back home with new energy... My wife fell off a dock bench into freezin MN water this weekend but managed to keep the baby dry and above water til she could hand it off to a friend... Sorry to hear Stills talking voice is on the mend... I'd love to see him do another serious solo effort sometime... well, I gotta get back to my sketch pad and a Lester Young CD...

Posted on Mon Oct 8 02:34:34 CEST 2001 from (152.163.201.84)

Joe

Just got in from "King Biscuit" at Helena, Arkansas......All I can say is that the BB's were exceptionally hot!! I would have to estimate the crowd at close to 10,000 and they were all on their feet when the BB's hit the stage. When Chris stepped up to the mic and sang into it....."Hey!!!!! Mr. Porter"..then repeated it, holding those notes unbelievably,.....they took off across the Mighty Mississippi!!!!! Forget about when he went into "Mystery Train", the crowd was wild!! The band included the Beale Street Horns and David Maxwell on keyboard. Pictures for ya' later I hope.

Posted on Sun Oct 7 21:27:10 CEST 2001 from (63.17.108.13)

Hi

What time is this place open? Is there any set hours? I know there's a delay. Just curious when's best to use this.

Posted on Sun Oct 7 17:44:20 CEST 2001 from (166.90.68.111)

Pat Brennan

Susan, I meant my post with great affection. I used to play with Jim Desmond, Johnny Moe and BB Spin and a couple of other early to mid-80's Chicago stalwarts.

Posted on Sun Oct 7 13:39:06 CEST 2001 from (66.41.97.175)

dan

Hi, Dylan opened his fall tour in spokane, Wash on fri. Here's the set list. waiting for the light to shine (by fred rose). times are a changin". serching for a soldier's grave. tweedle dee. your a big girl now. summer days. blind willie mctell. don't think twice. masters of war. tomorrow is a long time. watchin the river flow. sugar baby. drifter's escape. leopard skin pill-box hat. encore, honest with me. like a rolling stone. knockin on heavens door. all along the watchtower. blowin in the wind. Intersting set, huh? According to the reviews, Dylan didn't say anything thruout the show. Once again, he let his music do the talking. It would be interesting to hear what he says about current affairs. I hope he opens up as the tour goes on. There is a excellent dylan link on bobdylan.com. Click on tour information. Scroll down to Bob Dates. That link will give you current and old set lists and reviews. The information goes back 25 years plus. Great site for dylan freaks. Anyways, maybe see you guys in Mi. Nov. 9 and 12 at the dylan shows!

Posted on Sun Oct 7 12:04:37 CEST 2001 from (209.240.218.21)

ogdon

As a devoted Band fan I am thrilled with this web site. Keep up the good work guys, I will return often.

Posted on Sun Oct 7 07:33:01 CEST 2001 from (152.163.197.188)

Tommy

Well friends, in a few short hours I will be on my first camping trip upstate in the Catskills,NY.Wish me luck!Hopefully I wont get eaten by a bear.See you in a few days ,friends!

~Tommy

Posted on Sun Oct 7 05:06:53 CEST 2001 from (24.190.68.120)

Piscataway New Jersey Dance

we use to play "rag mama rag" and "i dipped in the sugar bowl, and all i got was lumps" on WSOU in south orange on sunday nights in the late 70s. It was showed called Hoedown host by Smokin Jim and his sidekick "Crystal Pistol"

Posted on Sun Oct 7 03:59:36 CEST 2001 from (152.163.204.211)

JTull Fan

I am not wishing for a war. I was merely stating at the time that if it was going to happen anyways I preferred it do so in a manner to allow me not to fly. Yes, I am and always have been scared to fly, yet I have done so for work and out of necessity. Although I am thrilled to not have to fly tomorrow I was prepared to do so in order to protect my career, feed my family, and not allow these terrorists to win. I also realize that I will have to do so eventually, next tuesday in fact as I have to be in Minneapolis. At the same time, I am happy to have a legitimate excuse to avoid what I fear, which I think is a natural reaction.

Posted on Sun Oct 7 03:20:56 CEST 2001 from (172.168.13.134)

pretty little girl

I've kept my name even though I'm not in Greece anymore. Hello GB, Jan and all. Nice to see you are all still here. I don't post because I am saving you all space, that's my GB contribution. Yes, Happy Thanksgiving eh? see you Torontonians at the Dylan concert in November, look out for me, I'll be wearing plimpsoles, jeans and a denim jacket. Peter... chili powder works on raccoons, I dont know about mice. A Moose bit my Aunty once....

Posted on Sun Oct 7 01:53:49 CEST 2001 from (209.91.10.45)

steve s

any Roy Buchanan fans - I just got a copy of "American Axe" a biography of Roy written by Phil Carson (I believe he posted to the GB on 1 or 2 occasions) It's quite a story and the Hawks and Band are a part of his story. But more importantly, the book explores the loneliness and the greatness, the isolation yet the familiarity making analogies to Richard. It'll give you goose bumps and a batch of insights into the journeyman way of life and thinking.

went to a surprise B-day party for Garth thrown by Maud and friends - a lot of fun, great food (if only it were kosher!) and a humorous b-day speech where G said he wanted to outdo his acceptance speech for the RRHOF!

Posted on Sat Oct 6 23:42:22 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.188)

Jtull Fan

Delta just cancelled my flights! Now I am renting a car with a cd player and I can take some tunes for the 560 miles to Lexington, KY (which I was going to drive to from Nashville) Hmmm, Big Pink... The Band... Stagefright...

Posted on Sat Oct 6 22:53:50 CEST 2001 from (204.39.230.170)

twilight

Good to see you back Hank. I've been wondering about who the guestbook monitors are - maybe we could do a top ten list or something. Instead of wishing for a war (campaign - excuse me) to start, why don't you just call and tell them you are too scared to fly?

Posted on Sat Oct 6 22:24:44 CEST 2001 from (158.252.113.170)

Susan

Well, Pat, I really would not mention Wazmo Nariz in the same breath with the Band, but the Sting connection sort of suggested it, and I did manage to work in a reference to Robbie's songwriting.And Jeff, ex-Waz band guitar player, really likes Garth's cd, which I gave to him a couple of weeks ago. So continue to rest easy; that's the only time I'll mention the 80s Chicago music scene since that's about all I know of it. Although I did sing on a cut slated to be on an unreleased Waz album, as part of a raucous chorus trying to sing with third-hand Glasgow accents.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 22:10:55 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

Jonathan Katz.

I have searched high and low in Amazon.com, CD Now and others for the John Hammond "So Many Roads Complete Sessions" CD and can't find it anywhere. Where did you find it??? Thanks.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 21:39:23 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.147)

Peter Viney

Just saw an ad for a “Best of Ringo Starr & the All Star Band” DVD (in DTS too). No track listing, but hopefully this should include some Rick / Levon performances.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 20:53:56 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.161)

calvin

Nick, I think you'd check you would see that Rick and Garth also played on Storyville, same deal though, Rick did BU vocals for Hold back the Dawn I believe and Garth played on a couple of tunes. Garth and RIck have in fact appeared on both of RR's non NAtive American Albums.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 19:03:03 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.166)

JTull Fan

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving. What type of traditions do you guys partake in? Is it similar to the U.S. version or do you have have specifically Canadian traditions to go with it? I've always known about your holiday but never gave it much thought in terms of similarities/differences.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 18:58:01 CEST 2001 from (166.90.66.204)

Pat Brennan

Wazmo Nariz finally gets mentioned. I can, at last, rest easy.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 18:21:17 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.161)

Bayou Sam

Crabby = the guestbook used to go like that - now it goes like this.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 18:08:48 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.189)

Donna

Last night, after all was done, I decided to sit down and just zone out by the television set. As I was channel surfing, and not expecting to see anything of interest, I came upon VH1. They were showing a scene from Kent state, and "Ohio" was playing in the background. This peeked my interest, and I decided to watch. A few minutes later, low and behold, I saw a quick scene of The Band, singing "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down." Next, Robbie came on and started talking about all the political, social, and musical changes, this country went through, during the 70's. Peter Gabriel, said it the best about the mind set of the people during the 70's, "you couldn't trust the politicians, you couldn't trust the journalist, so you listened and trusted the musicians." I am sure this program must of been aired on several occasions, but this was the first time I had the opportunity to see it. There were many segments, where Robbie spoke, and for me, not expecting to see anything worth watching, I was very surprised!

John Donabie, Brown Eyed Girl, Cupid, and the rest of our friends in Cananda, Have a Wonderful Thanksgiving!

Posted on Sat Oct 6 16:54:09 CEST 2001 from (208.243.237.157)

Mike

Amen Tommy! Yes, more Richard! Let's see the performance on "Georgia On My Mind" as a bonus on both the dvd and the cd. I guess we'll have to wait but when something like this is so tantalizing, it's hard to wait! Peace

Mike

Posted on Sat Oct 6 14:49:07 CEST 2001 from (64.230.34.144)

brown eyed girl

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL THE CANADIAN POSTERS!

As Bob Marley would sing......GIVE THANKS AND PRAISES from CONFRONTATION........."When my soul was hurtin deep within.......And I'm worrying to be free, desperately, Yeah.....So guide and protect I"..........I would like to give thanks and praises to the following Band fans who have sent me music over the past year........NORBERT, BILLY, CUPID, BWNWITENN, and ROLLIE for sending sound bytes of his harp playing!

Since my 73 year old mother is a huge Neil Young Fan........I'm going to put on LTW for her this weekend because her all time favourite song is HELPLESS.......she was also a huge fan of his father.......Scott Young as well...........

I would also like to send out a special greeting to G-MAN, DONNA and DONNA from PA (who is a road warrior and still loves Robbie's music!!!) and PRETTY LITTLE GIRL FROM GREECE........who had the courage to meet me away from their computer screens......:-D

Also thanks to the many who have sent me funny attachments or email that challenged me sometimes or just made me fall off my chair!....... PAT BRENNAN...... CRABBY........ HANK........ AMANDA........ ILKKA....... KALERVO........ BRONX SAM....... JON LYNESS....... PETER VINEY...... LIZ......... CALM......... EB........ JAMES EPPARD who sent song lyrics, THIJS from Sjako!..............and PAUL GODFREY.......who is my guest book advisor.......;-D.........and of course.........JAN THE MAN who has made it possible for me to communicate with all these Band fans.........and to all the other fans who I have blah, blah, blah with over the past year!...........

I am going to see Dylan on November 8 even though I really only like a couple of songs from LOVE AND THEFT......the critics were right.....MISSISSIPPI........the most enjoyable song for me on this recording......The best shows in the past that I saw Dylan perform would be ROLLING THUNDER REVIEW in Niagara Falls New York and Toronto.........Unfortunately I missed The Band with Dylan by one year in Toronto!!!!!!!!!!! HANK......I also have EAT THE DOCUMENT.....DON'T LOOK BACK......HARD RAIN.......and I'm now waiting to receive in the mail......RENALDO AND CLARA.........

MANY THANKS TO EVERYONE......for allowing me to blah, blah, blah, about my other favourite artists.......BOB MARLEY, VAN MORRISON, DYLAN, THE CLASH.......and the NEW YORK ANIMAL......I can't say his name.......Crabby and I have a deal going on.......but if he bashes Robbie one more time in public......all bets are off! ;-D.......Anyway.....I'm just very passionate and protective of the artists who have enriched my life...........

Posted on Sat Oct 6 14:24:14 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.75)

Hank

Mention of Gene Clark caught my eye......over the past week I've been listening to his mid '70ies album, "No Other". Anyone hear/dig that album?......"Lifes Greatest Fool" is a great song.....what a performance!......I can't help but think how The Eagles took that whole groove/feel offa the likes of Gene Clark and Gram Parsons and served it up to the world........and I ain't complaining neither.......fair dues to them.......

I would say there's a better movie in "Eat The Document" than the one that they made.....I remember reading about "Eat the Document", before I'd ever seen either Dylan or The Band, and RRs comment that "we cut it fast on the eye"....Anyone remember reading that in one book/article or the other on Bob Dylan over the years?.....well, Yup!...they cut it "fast on the eye" alright.....it would make you dizzy just watching it........Apparently, DA Pennebaker has his own cut of the footage of that tour........THAT I'd like to see.......

Hey! but don't git me wrong or nuthin'......what a blast it was to see all the guys in The Band/Hawks so young and going for it and having fun.......the snippets of Bob writing songs with RR jamming along were great, too......RR explaing to the hotel about how he usually doesn't have people up in his room......very cool......the only thing was that I had NO GB to expound my innermostest thinkings upon it for y'all...........Great to see it back!....Thanks, Jan........

Ah, but WHO are Ze Moderators?..........and where do they go at night?.......are they of the same physical dimension as us?.......

I'd like to apologise to everyone here on the Open Kitchen Newsletter list for the overload of mail there a few weeks ago.....and I know it pissed alot of people right off.........seems like the whole world went crazy a few weeks ago, terrorists, GB closing down and Newsletters lists going haywire.....Sorry, folks!......

Posted on Sat Oct 6 13:46:39 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.218)

Diamond Lil

Happy Thanksgiving weekend to all my Canadian friends.. especially John Donabie and Paul 'shine on' Godfrey. Have a safe and happy one.

JTull Fan: Geez..I know what you mean. As someone who is normally a rumandcokeslashvalium flyer, I can really understand your need for that magical potion now. Have a safe trip.

Wishing everyone a good day. Hug Jan.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 13:28:26 CEST 2001 from (64.12.101.164)

Jtull fan

Amanda-my wife and I love Savannah although we tend to hang out in Charleston more often. Great restaurant in Savannah we go to , I think it's called the 'Pink Lady'. Well, The JTull Fan has to take two flights tomorrow (ending up in Nashville) and he is NOT happy, especially after watching dateline NBC last night and the reports of CURRENT security problems. I almost wish we start the campaign in Afghanistan so I have an excuse to cancel. Just in case, I bought some 'magic flying potion'to put in my bag for protection. It says something about being 12 years old and single malt. If some passengers try to make an unexpected stop at the Sears Tower I'll just breath on 'em. I know I'm trying to be funny but I am really not happy and am serious about the scotch.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 07:16:49 CEST 2001 from (63.28.242.192)

rollie

It's funny how this scenario repeats itself again and again.Classic example of the "tight budget"syndrome,The Mangy Moose in Jackson ,Wyoming.Owners having condos in numerous places around the country,with vintage automobiles to get them there, and boats , and so on.....claiming poverty, all the while sodomizing at will the bands that happen to find themselves in those cross -hairs. How anyone makes it thru this gauntlet is a mystery to me............

Posted on Sat Oct 6 03:51:07 CEST 2001 from (205.188.199.57)

Tommy

I'd like to see more interview footage(and not just of Robbie!) on the Last Waltz DVD.Also,MORE RICHARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on Sat Oct 6 02:12:16 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Our neighboring city of Savannah, Georgia is having their 12th Annual Folk Music Festival Oct. 12-14. The line up includes...The Gospelaires, Oscar Brand, Billy and Libby Hicks, Jean Ritchie and John Hammond. I definitely want to see John Hammond. Has anyone heard his "Wicked Grin" that he collaborated on with Tom Waits? I am really curious about Oscar Brand who is 80 and is doing a performance entitled "Woody, Leadbelly and Me." An article in the paper stated that Brand was the first one who put Bob Dylan on the air. I hear his songs are pretty bawdy!! Well...I am quite intrigued. My husband is a chef and most likely will be working....so I will have to string my three young sons along. I can't think of a better experience for them...folk music in the lovely city of Savannah.

Posted on Sat Oct 6 01:13:27 CEST 2001 from (128.32.162.6)

Dave Hopkins

Charlie Hawker: I read a recent interview with Stills in which he said he had recently had a lot of dental work done...that may be why he talks the way he does. Still can sing fine, though.

Glad to hear that the Last Waltz DVD is in the pipeline, and glad to hear as well that Levon and Garth are being included. As far as extra stuff goes, I vote for the original *unedited* footage of Neil Young on stage with, um, mood-altering substance visible. Cinema verite...

Posted on Fri Oct 5 23:47:01 CEST 2001 from (206.148.225.185)

Jon

Review of Garth's new CD; just got in the mail. The first words that came to my head, "This is some strange music." I have never heard anything like it before, but you do know it is Garth. I listened to it a couple more times, and these words came to me, "this is some strange music(again)." But anyway, I encourage any fan to go buy it, it's "way out there", but I do like it. I keep trying to think of some way to describe it, but can't come up with a way to explain it. If he comes out with another, I'll buy it too. I liked it most on the third listening one evening, dim the lights, go get your favorite 12 oz. cold can and a good smoke, hit play and just sit back and relax. You'll have to play it over and over, because you will hear something new each time. Thanks Garth, your still way ahead of your time!

Posted on Fri Oct 5 23:33:37 CEST 2001 from (24.159.101.52)

Don Pugatch

For all the Al Kooper Fans, check out his web site, new CD coming out, plus Al has a new group. Some very interesting stories on this site.

Posted on Fri Oct 5 22:24:44 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Click on the link above...Tribute...September 11, 2001

Posted on Fri Oct 5 20:58:07 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

If you don't mind me being an Oldie But Goody for a moment. I was up at Casino Rama in Orillia Ontario (about an hour north of Toronto)last night to see the Righteous Brothers. Man I couldn't believe it. Bobby Hatfield can still hit the high notes in Unchained Melody and Bill Medley is as soulful as ever. They are 61 years of age and you would never know it. Here's something else I really appreciate in what some would call an "oldies" act. They don't treat there show as a "oldies act." They travel with an amazing band and yes they travel with a real B3 Organ. 90 minutes of great memories. Bobby Hatfield seems to have a slight slur when speaking; but not when he sings....the same type of speech that Stephen Still has now. Don't know if that is from any stroke problems or a tough life of.......... Anyway they had 5000 people strong last night and loved every minute of it. Unchained Melody stills does it to me. You can see why these two guys brought the term "Blue Eyed Soul" into being

Never been to this casino before (not a gambler) but they sure have the bucks to pay performers. Faith Hill kicked off the season and walked away with a half million dollars for her 90 minute show. I'm in the wrong business.

Posted on Fri Oct 5 19:52:58 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

I bought Gene Clark's This Byrd Has Flown because Rick ,according to this site, plays on it. Unfortunately, his name is NOT listed. Does anyone know what track(s) he plays on? Or is this like the Levon thing on Ringo's Rotogravure?

Posted on Fri Oct 5 19:30:33 CEST 2001 from (193.203.148.119)

.....HANK.......

...................just found out The GB is back..........gotta run......but I saw "Eat The Document" for the first time the other night.....more later...........

Posted on Fri Oct 5 17:56:21 CEST 2001 from (208.23.178.142)

Mike

Tommy,

Nice to see someone else in here is a Police fan! Yes, they were one of the few bands who didn't get caught in the pop drivel of the early 1980's. Even when Sting's songs began to dominate their reptoire, they still had that punk energy that made them so fierce and powerful onstage. Only The Clash were capable of that kind of sheer power during the late 70's and early 1980's. And boy could The Police really tear loose onstage. I've boots that prove it. Stewart Copeland is in the same category as Levon. By that I mean, a highly skilled and talented drummer, albeit terribly underrated :( Andy Summers was/is like a one man guitar orchestra with his echoplex, guitar, and synthesizer pedals.

Also Tommy, worth checking out is Stewart's "Klark Kent" cd if you can find it. If interested, emal me and I'll hook you up with a cd-r of it. If you like his "On Any Other Day" (Regatta DeBlanc), then you'll love this. He handles ALL of the instruments (drums, guitar, bass, and keyboards) too! Sting wasn't the only talented one. Like you, I didn't love Brand New day overall. It was a real departure. The songs sounded so much better live when I saw him on that tour! And Domenic Miller (his guitar player) opened the show because the opening act was sick! And Sting came out with him for his last song and did "Shape Of My Heart". And Manu Katche is an amazing drummer. i still say that "Blue Turtles" and Ten Summoners Tales" are hsi best albums. If you're interested in that cd-r, let me know. Time to run. Need to cook some lunch. I'll return later tonight. Peace.

Mike

Posted on Fri Oct 5 16:04:45 CEST 2001 from (198.242.213.18)

Mr. K. Horse

HEY THERE BASHFUL BILL: Couldn't agree more with the Dinosaur idea. In fact, The Good Doctor and I ran into the Dinosaurs Booking Person after the SU gane last weekend at Danzers. Dr. Pepper mentioned to him again that it would be worth loking into The Crowmatix and The Barnburners. He seemed interested but then went into the Budget thing. If money is such a big issue it kinda amazes me where the dough comes from to book the quality acts they do get? By the way, the Doctor is still reeling from his loss, its really laid him and all of us very low.. A real tragedy. Hes kicking back up on Marthas Vineyard this weekend at an estate that was given to the family to use. Give him some time to just kick back with my sis and his daughter without phones etc.. See ya..

Posted on Fri Oct 5 15:19:20 CEST 2001 from (130.126.32.133)

Susan

Ah, Sting. I bought one of his albums, Ten Summoner's Tales, for "Fields of Gold". I liked other songs on the album and take it on my walks a couple of times a year. I got really sick of his song for the millenium, and in general don't like the sound of much of his recent stuff. I like a nice groove as well as the next person, but so much of Sting's seem mechanical; clever but mechanical. In lyric writing Sting can play with words to effect. The songs on Ten Summoner's Tales often tell elusive stories in the style of RR's best. But sometimes the wordplay is just clever.

To continue Tommy's thread, I saw Sting in concert once. The opening act was Joan Jett, believe it or not. Sting has an interesting way of moving on stage. Most people, when they bounce to the music, emphasise the UP, which gives a springy, bounce to the movement. Sting emphasised the DOWN, and bent his knees more deeply than normal in such movement. This had the effect for me, sitting up fairly high in steeply sloped arena seating, of making me feel out of balance, as if rhythms were off, probably because my instinct was to move to the opposite pattern.

My brother-in-law toured with the front band for the Police when they were just breaking out as a major act. The only story I can remember Jeff telling about that tour was that British audiences throw, or at that time threw coins at opening acts they did not like. Since they were playing small and medium-sized halls the coins hit their mark. Since Wazmo Nariz was an unknown American act and the audience was there for the Police the coins were thrown often. Jeff said the last straw was that the Police roadies gathered up the coins and kept them. The Waz band could have used them to add to their per diem, which was far from generous.

Posted on Fri Oct 5 14:49:31 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.209)

bob wigo

Anyone else struggling with the debilitating effects of "Guestbookus Interruptus" ?

My keyboard keeps turning blue and seizing up!!

Posted on Fri Oct 5 12:25:52 CEST 2001 from (64.80.240.233)

Diamond Lil

Hmm..I e-mailed our friend Hank and the mail bounced back..... Has anyone heard from him?.....

Hank......... If you're out there......drop us a line........or some dots.......

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Fri Oct 5 10:33:21 CEST 2001 from (152.163.194.181)

Nick

Calvin, Garth played background music for two tunes on Robbie's first album. Rick sang back-up vocals on "Sonny Got Caught in the Moonlight".

Posted on Fri Oct 5 09:40:19 CEST 2001 from (63.187.39.183)

Charlie Hawker

Oh by the way! I almost forgot to mention that I saw Dr. John and Robert Cray last Sunday at a winery way out in the Boonies. Man Dr. John is bad. That guy just keeps getting better the older he gets. He can dance too!! Robert Cray was great too. He has a beautiful voice and he is a great guitar player. If either one of those guys comes through your town, you really need to check them out.

Posted on Fri Oct 5 09:27:14 CEST 2001 from (63.187.39.183)

Charlie Hawker

Hello!! Does any body know what happened to Stephen Stills tongue? He talks like he had a stroke or something. I thought maybe I was just hearing things but my uncle said the same thing. I hope he is ok. If anybody on this message board actually talks to Levon anytime soon please tell him that a guy in California has been greatly inspired by him. I play music and I am an ok singer and I feel like Levon, Rick and Richard taught me to sing. It makes me feel so happy when I listen to those recordings... so much soul.

Posted on Fri Oct 5 06:27:03 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.59)

Tommy

Sting..Hmmm...well, first off, The Police are one of my favorite bands(I even sang and played bass in a Police cover band for a short period..we never played any shows, we just got in the studio and had fun playing their songs).In my top 10 even!His solo stuff ,well..I'm not sure.Some is really good, some is too heavy handed and some is just too "adult",too serious for me to get into fully.I appreciate the musicianship and songwriting, but I can't relate to the themes or sounds (same with most of Robbie's solo stuff for me).It seems very "plastic" at times, very "untouchable"....does this make sense?Sometimes the music sounds like it's all from machines, and the personality has been sucked from the recording/production and the instruments.It's not really rock music anymore.(If that's bad or good is up to the listener.)

I bought the 'Brand New Day' cd and couldn't listen to the whole thing.It just didn't do it for me.I like the one before it though,'Mercury Rising'('96)...That had some nice soulful stuff on it.I can't get into this "world music" stuff...It seems so fake.But all in all, Sting is an amazing songwriter, and The Police are an amazing band that kept rock music alive in the keyboard-driven/"new age" early 80s.(Incedentally,I met Sting in '96 in the lobby of the NBC building in NYC.I tried to talk to him, but he kept walking, eating an apple.I went to give him my band's demo, and in an uninterested , aloof way, he just said "Put it in my bag."Oh well....Not the coolest guy to meet, I guess.I woulda felt stupid if I was some starstruck/celebrity kiss-ass.But I play it cool..he's just a guy like me...except he lives in a castle.Now, meeting LEVON, well...that's a different story.Did I tell ya'll I hugged Levon?Haha.Anyway...)

I saw an Andy Summers show in '97 when he was touring for his last cd and he was AMAZING!It was a trio(guitar/bass/drums),infusing rock/jazz/counry and progressive music.Good stuff.(Some of you might be familiar with his Robert Fripp colaborations as well.Cool music.)Check some of Stewart's and Andy's new stuff out..it's really interesting and musically "adventurous".Remember, Sting wasn't the only member of The Police to make it such a great band!,,,,,,

~I said alot.Bye for now.

Posted on Fri Oct 5 05:03:02 CEST 2001 from (63.46.55.252)

Crabgrass' Sing-Along

The Old GB it,

Ain't what it used to be,

Ain't what it used to be,

Ain't what it used to be,

The Old GB it,

Ain't what it used to be,

A few short weeks ago...

(C'mon everyone - join in!!)

The Old GB it,

Ain't what it used to be,

Ain't what it used to be,

Ain't what it used to be... etc.

(Best sung in Key of D for Dead.)

Posted on Fri Oct 5 04:19:27 CEST 2001 from (152.163.201.83)

Sherry

Tommy hit Stewart Copeland?

Posted on Fri Oct 5 04:14:41 CEST 2001 from (64.80.55.110)

Diamond Lil

Ray: I really liked your post. I too, have been listening alot to "You can go home" from Rick's 'Times Like These' cd. The song has always had a personal meaning to me, but I guess it's even taken on a whole new meaning these days.

You've been through so much, beyond all belief
You lost everything, you're way beyond grief
You wandered the roads, like rags in the rain
Blood on your clothes, half dead, half insane
You've got memories, that hi-jack your dreams
And swim through your soul, like snakes in a stream
You'd have to be Christ, to forget and forgive
One day at a time, that's how you must live

You can go home, to the red poppy fields
You can go home, where familiar is real
You can go home, you don't have to kneel
You can go home, to rebuild and to heal....

Have a good night everyone. Peace.

Posted on Fri Oct 5 03:01:31 CEST 2001 from (129.237.210.106)

Ray Pence

I'm glad to see the guestbook back, and wanted to get on it to give an advertisement for Breeze Hill Records, which I probably don't need to do here. Their staff is very friendly and helpful, and I like my Times Like These t-shirt along with the CDs of The Sea to the North and Times Like These.

I don't know if anyone's mentioned this but I found it interesting that the official release date for Garth's CD was September 11, same day as Dylan's, same as the terrorist attacks.

Nearly every song on Garth's CD could be stretched out to album length, they are that interesting. The only composition that doesn't work so well for me is the Dark Star cover. But interestingly enought the Ripple cover is a highlight of Times Like These.

In the aftermath of the terrorism the songs You Can Go Home and People of Conscience sounded especially powerful to me. Have to admit I wasn't keeping up on what Rick was doing in the last few years before he passed away, but after listening to these I found I missed him more than ever.

It also was good to see guestbookers mention the Soundstage installment from 1977 featuring Rick and Graham Parker. I've brought this up before on the guestbook before and would like to see that episode available on tape or DVD, along with some other choice shows.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 22:50:00 CEST 2001 from (152.163.194.194)

calvin

Steve, I believe there is quite a bid of video of the show. On RObbie's COming Home documentary, that is readily available BTW, there is a clip of the band being inducted at the HOF and jamming afterwards with CLapton. Clearly Rick, Garth and Robbie were up front together, but you cant see who is on drums-Ive got to believe that Levon would have buried the hatchet for one night. BTW, Garth and Rick have played on both of RR's non Native American solo albums, obviously it is impossible to say what is, or in RIck's case was, going on inside the 4 men's head, but RIck and Garth have always seemed willing to Jam with Robbie, and vice a versa.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 22:42:09 CEST 2001 from (12.34.17.217)

Johnny Flippo

Sorry Mike, but that's Billy Mundi drumming on "Ain't Got No Home". BTW, there are no drums on "Rockin' Chair".

Posted on Thu Oct 4 22:16:04 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

Butch: Thanks for the post. I like David Fricke, for he is one of Rolling Stone's better writers. I'm thrilled that the ball is rolling, so to speak, on The Last Waltz DVD. The amount of items they could attach to the DVD is endless. What would GB regulars want to see as "extras" on the DVD??

I personally would love to see "Acadian Driftwood" added.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 22:02:42 CEST 2001 from (64.12.107.29)

Joe

Yes Chris D. ..... I'll be in Helena this weekend also. Probably be at the Black Diamond on Beale St. in Memphis sooner or later.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 21:26:08 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Basful Bill

A few years ago, Maria Muldaur created some controversy when she played the legendery Dinosaur Barbeque in Syracuse. An hour before showtime they announced everyone had to put out their smokes, as she required the place to be smokefree for at least that amount of time. Smoking during the show was of course forbidden. She also was less than happy with the sound system, and the sound guy lashed out at her in a couple of the local rags over the next couple days. She's been back a couple times since, though. Bob Margolin will be there in a couple weeks, and its a perfect venue for the Banburners. Only about 3 hours from Woodstock, too.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 20:53:46 CEST 2001 from (152.163.195.196)

bob wigo

Tommy,

Stewart Copeland is featured in the November issue of Modern Drummer. I know you hit 'em so you might want to check it out. There's some interesting tablature as well.Copeland is underrated in my estimation. The Police were a very fine trio and his drumming was absolutely essential to their sound. I'm anxious to hear his new band.

Sting has been very selective about drummers ever since he and The Police parted company. Two of my favorite drummers have done beautiful work with Sting -- Vinnie Colaiuta, who has worked with almost everyone who is anyone including Frank Zappa who was notorious for demands on his drummers and Manu Katche who has worked with Robbie Robertson, Peter Gabriel, Joni Mitchell, Dire Straits and a host of others. Katche is a positively brilliant percussionist. Check out Sting's "Brand New Day" DVD and you'll see what I mean. The music is wide open and demands a great drummer to pull it off.

We rarely talk about Sting hear and I am curious to hear others' opinions. I know the easy knock is to write it all off as pretentious but I, after a lot of serious listening, contend that his music is as beautiful and powerful as any out there today.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 19:53:13 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

A notable quote from the world of music:

"Expect your music to be selling beer and everything else...Truly, it's going to happen. Embrace it!"

That statement was made by John Grady as he discussed the popularity of the soundtrack from "O Brother, Where Art Thou" during the opening of The World of Bluegrass 2001 conference in Louisville, Ky. the other day. Who may you ask is Mr. Grady? No he's not one of the Soggy Bottom Boys--He's an executive with Mercury Nashville Records, who helped champion the "O Brother" CD (a surprise hit that has so far sold over 3 million copies).

As part of this weeklong event in Louisville, the International Bluegrass Music Association Awards are being held today. J. Henry (a/k/a T-Bone) Burnett, the producer of the "O Brother" soundtrack, is the keynote speaker this year at the tradeshow / conference. I'm curious to hear what he has to say.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 19:37:45 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.47)

Tommy

I got this cd yesterday from a band called OYSTERHEAD....It's Stewart Copeland(from The Police) on drums,Trey Anastasio(from Phish) on guitar,and Les Claypool(frontman from Primus) on bass.It's a real eclectic ,progressive-rock,whacked-out great album.Copeland is rocking on it like it was 1980!If any of you guys like any of the above bands(or some new "prog-rock"), check it out...you might enjoy it.

I tried to get tickets for their upcoming two nights (in November) at the Roseland in NYC,but the tickets sold out QUICK!All those Phish-heads, I guess.On eBay , two tix for either night are going for about $180!,,,For a standing room!I might try to scalp some,,,

Anyway, has Hank been back since we "re-opened"?I haven't seen him.Maybe someone should email him and let him know we're back on the air.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 18:15:14 CEST 2001 from (64.23.165.18)

JTULL FAN

Saw Jack Bruce perform with Ringo's All-Starrs in '97 and he was great.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 18:11:09 CEST 2001 from (208.16.227.162)

Mike

To Dave Hopkins... Richard also plays drums on "Ain't Got No Home" from Moondog Matineee...I don't know about The Promised Land. Interesting, now I am thinking about it. Also, Richard is on drums on "Rag Mama Rag" and "Rockin' Chair"(reissue only) on Rock Of Ages. What a great drummer, a style all his own! Peace.

Mike

Posted on Thu Oct 4 17:53:37 CEST 2001 from (209.240.222.32)

joe thomas

hi folks,i found this site by accident while looking for the iraqi embassey to tell them you know what.i have a nice little story you should enjoy...for those of us who are lucky enough to have lived and traveled in the 60s and 70s:: I am a guitar player.My wife and I were living in woodstock in 74.We knew everybody in those days.i jammed with Bonnie R in 72 or so.I had never met the band however.There was so much great music from Moby Grape to Derek & Dominoes!!One night my wife and i were "tripping" around town and sitting in the local pub getting plastered(we didnt realize it at the time) and we struck up a conversation with a gentleman who asked us back to his place to drink beer and jam.After we had been playing and partying for a couple of hours in this house/studio.,it started to dawn on me that i was jamming wing 3 guys from the "BAND" I didnt realize at first cause Robbie and Garth werent there and i wasnt that familiar with the group.I was just learning.But when they started playing certain songs that even a non fan had to have heard before.....all of a sudden i sobered up enough to look at the pictures on the wall etc...I guess i wanted to tell this story to show those who werent around in those years ,how humble people were and how living up there ,you could meet and play with the greatest musicians so easily cause they hang out just like you and I.I have since come to know and love the group(the real original group) and Im sure that those guys remember that fun filled night that they jammed all night and fooled one of the new locals.I miss those years and think its a damn shame that "real" talent cant be heard on the radio anymore except college stations.peace and GBA to you all,Joe

Posted on Thu Oct 4 17:15:51 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

I haven't seen this on the site anywhere, so if I'm missing it I'd appreciate a pointer to the right page.

I'm interested in more information about the induction ceremony into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Transcripts of the speeches would be great, but even just a description of the ceremony would be nice. Who played what songs? Did Rick & Garth play with Robbie?

Thanks.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 15:28:55 CEST 2001 from (195.82.121.3)

Peter Viney

Ticket prices. I went to see Jack Bruce on Tuesday, but it was cancelled at the last minute due to ‘loss of voice.’ That was £19.50 ($28) for someone who is hardly a current star. £28 is average here for major artists ($39). In the Jack Bruce case, the promoter and hall lost out, not the artist. They have an empty 1000 seater, staff assigned, lost bar takings etc. On the other hand, I prefer paying £20 for a hall where the artist apppears on time, rather than paying £10 for the club date, where the artist is told to come on at least an hour late to help beer sales. And that can extend to much longer. As I am always driving back afterwards, this means buying bottled water at £2 a shot. For a lot of people the babysitter runs into overtime (or gets too annoyed to come next time). In the end, the £20 isn’t really any more expensive than the £10. The clubs have a funkier atmosphere, but those who’ve given up smoking come out with all their clothes needing a dry clean to remove the smell of smoke. Going back to Jack’s loss of voice, performers who have given up smoking to preserve their voices, say that two or three nights on the club circuit singing, is akin to smoking thirty a day. I’ve said this (like everything else) many times, but I think an artist coming on two hours late shows arrogance and disregard for their audience. I have zero respect for the ‘keep them waiting, it makes them keener’ school of thought. And for the “I want to watch the game on TV first.’ These people can afford a video. And for the Macy Gray, ‘I’ll be 90 minutes late just because I’m a star.’ And I respect the professionalism of Paul Simon (three minutes late), and accept the standard Van Morrison 12-15 minutes late cheerfully. Theatrical performers (who might dance and sing too) have to meet showtime exactly on the dot every night, six nights a week, and they do. With two shows on Saturdays and Wednesdays.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 15:08:32 CEST 2001 from (159.105.102.8)

J CASS

Two questions for the GB

I am a Cat Stevens fan and havent heard of his box set, is it already released??

I don't know much about guitars I don't play but I want to learn is the brand REGAL a respectable brand??

Posted on Thu Oct 4 14:23:12 CEST 2001 from (63.66.135.217)

JTULL FAN

Ticket price pet peave 2: Even if you can find a $25.00 ticket, add $5.00 for parking, $4.00 for misc., $5.00 for handling, $3.00 envelope surcharge etc. etc. and you still have to fork over $42.00 for a lawn seat with an oak tree in front of you!

Posted on Thu Oct 4 14:15:27 CEST 2001 from (130.225.4.213)

Across the great...

Just wanted to tell you all that it is - or might be - possible to buy "Across the great divide" _used_ from Amazon. I just did, and got myself a perfectly ok copy, and hours of intense and fun reading. Check it out (and within not to long, you might be able to by the whole of Amazon - used...) P

Posted on Thu Oct 4 14:03:41 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

Another track Richard drums on is "4% Pantomime" (according to Levon's book).

Posted on Thu Oct 4 12:48:06 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.219)

Diamond Lil

I was just sitting here thinking how really pleasant this place has been since Jan was nice enough to re-open it for us again. There are so many smart, funny, sincere, and knowledgeable people here...and it's nice to wake up in the morning and 'visit' with you all again.

Band connection? Obvious. They're why we're all here in the first place. They not only gave us a wonderful musical gift, but the gift of friendship as well. A better legacy I couldn't even imagine.

Have a good day everyone. Hug Jan.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 06:58:49 CEST 2001 from (24.218.187.47)

Long Distance Operator

Not to be the proverbial turd in the punch bowl, but I believe the greatest thing Kurt Cobain ever did was to quote Neil Young in his suicide note. That is assuming he actually committed suicide, of course. Ever see "Kurt & Courtney"? Fascinating.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 06:12:12 CEST 2001 from (64.230.33.115)

brown eyed girl

For those of you who emailed me and wanted names of some other songs by RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE........check out MAGGIE'S FARM by Dylan.........HADDA BEEN PLAYING ON THE JUKEBOX.........by Allen Gingsberg.......THE GHOST OF TOM JOAD..........by Bruuuuuuuuuuuce..........CLAMP DOWN.........by The Clash..........C.I.A..............(CRIMINALS IN ACTION)..............VIETNOW...........No question about it.........I gravitate towards rebels with a cause.............and artists who beat to their own drums..........no matter what.............

Posted on Thu Oct 4 05:04:06 CEST 2001 from (152.163.207.178)

butch

i just got a call from Rolling Stone writer emeritus, David Fricke,,, he is doing the liner notes for The Last Waltz DVD,,,, yes, i said DVD,,,, wanted to speak to Levon & Garth , even tho he was hired by RR, for this project,,

he wants to be fair & correct,,,,,

so, stop wondering if there will be one,, YES there will be,, eventually,, sooner than later,,,

Posted on Thu Oct 4 04:35:41 CEST 2001 from (198.214.182.148)

Pehr

Chris: Loup Garous are werewolves all right. In the book of new orleans folklore called "Gumbo Ya Ya", available all over, (a classic)there is a whole chapter devoted to the shady mythical denizens of the great river city; needlemen too are very interesting I remember.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 03:41:54 CEST 2001 from (136.152.194.132)

Dave Hopkins

A while ago, I tried to figure out who plays what on which Band song. Looking at what I came up with, I've got Richard down as playing drums on the following:

The Basement Tapes: Odds and Ends, Yazoo Street Scandal, Ain't No More Cane, Don't Ya Tell Henry

The Band: Rag Mama Rag, Jemima Surrender

Stage Fright: Strawberry Wine, Time to Kill, All La Glory, Daniel and the Sacred Harp (w/ Levon)

Cahoots: When I Paint My Masterpiece, Thinkin' Out Loud

Moondog Matinee: Mystery Train (w/ Levon), Third Man Theme, The Promised Land (w/ Billy Mundi), I'm Ready, A Change Is Gonna Come

NLSC: Jupiter Hollow (w/ Levon)

Last Waltz: Such a Night, Mystery Train, Evangeline

MFBP & Islands: none

Additions? Corrections?

Posted on Thu Oct 4 03:07:28 CEST 2001 from (152.163.204.53)

Dave Z

Looking forward to a review of that Helena, AK BBs show... I loved the lineup that passed through Mpls... and would love a CD from them... but I will take what I can get whenever or if they put it out... and best of luck to Frankie... and Amy... change is good... live your dreams I say...

Posted on Thu Oct 4 02:38:17 CEST 2001 from (24.4.252.8)

Chris D.

I'll ask one more time. Anybody traveling down to the King Biscuit Festival this weekend? I'd love to meet some Guestbook regulars or Barnburner fans there. Ruth, have a great time maybe we'll see you! Beale Street tomorrow night!! That could get messy! You'll know us if you see us, we're the three guys from Jersey and atleast one of us is a little loud! Thanks!

Posted on Thu Oct 4 02:21:58 CEST 2001 from (24.112.158.244)

Ian

I have visited this site many times over the past year or so, but never checked out the guest book before. A lot of ground has been covered here over the years.

I saw The Band at the Essex County Fairground in Essex Junction, VT. July 21, 1976. It was a triple bill and if memory serves, the ticket price was eight fifty, nine buck tops. I forget who the first band was, missed their set anyway, as we were still en route from Montreal. Andy Pratt was up second, The Band closed out the show and were excellent. They opened with "Don't do it". Robbie's amp was cutting out so I couldn't hear what he playing, but I sure saw him moving up there.

Glad I got to see them then, and regret not making an effort to see them in their various incarnations since.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 01:42:18 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.188)

JTULL FAN

Little Pleasures: I was at the local Food Lion tonight to buy a few items and while in the checkout line made out bits of a song on the Muzak but couldn't place it. Upon listening harder it became clearer but my mind couldn't accept it; kind of like a mirage. Then my brain could deny it no longer: REMEDY from Jericho! So, which one of us works for Muzak? Also, on the Boz Scaggs mention: he is one of those people, as I get older, who I really am starting to appreciate. What amazing vocals!

Posted on Thu Oct 4 00:35:45 CEST 2001 from (64.12.106.37)

Sherry

It is reported that a large portion of the proceeds from Cat Stevens' box set is in fact going to the September 11 fund.

Posted on Thu Oct 4 00:20:09 CEST 2001 from (207.34.146.24)

Cupid

Good to see the GB back. I missed the Lennon concert last night [was in the studio...one has to make sacrifices, some more painful then others when chasing ones dreams]. I did get to see some footage of Kevin Spacey doing "Mind games" and was floored by his performance..I knew the guy could act his ass off but this..how much talent can one guy have. Bayou Sam I suspect your comment on John looking down at Yoko being appluaded is not only correct but probably [if one were attainable] a direct quote from John. Brilliant my friend.

Would just like to Compliment Neil Young on his chilling performance of "imagine" at the recent telethon... left me shaken and thrilled at the same time. Eddie Vedder's performance was equally stiring. Mariah Carey on the other hand should have stayed at the Nut house..what the bleep was she thinking?.. would have liked to see Jackson Browne in her place...Peace be upon you all...Cupid

Posted on Wed Oct 3 23:59:45 CEST 2001 from (63.17.109.238)

Hi

That Dead, Band, Joplin tour of Canada by train has been talked about for years, I hope it becomes available. ....What about the film from Big Pink that Robertson use to talk about in interviews early on? The footage of them at Woodstock(the festival) was shown at the Joyous Lake in the early 70's. You would think someone would have access to all this stuff and put something worthy together...

Posted on Wed Oct 3 22:42:48 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Julie Miller can also be heard singing some beautiful harmony vocals on John Hiatt's excellent new album "The Tiki Bar Is Open".

Elton John is a part-time Atlanta resident. He recently re-recorded the song "Country Comfort" with Earl Scruggs in an Atlanta-area studio. This version of that Bernie Taupin / Elton John classic appears on the recently released "Earl Scruggs & Friends" CD.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 22:38:21 CEST 2001 from (130.126.32.133)

Susan

Thank you, Steve, for your work on my behalf. So you parse a music phrase, just like a sentence. That's an new music term for me. I tried counting the break myself, but failed, and no wonder. I always have trouble when the action starts on the 'and'. I shall go home and try it again with this guidance.

And thank you, Pehr and Bayou Sam, for your reminders that the guys are pretty sophisticated rhythmically and just do things like this from time to time to amuse themselves or shake things up. Putting a little stagger there (stagger is a better term than falter) certainly caught my attention.

I think I brooded on it so much because most of my listening for the past year has been done while moving, specificially on an almost-daily 3-mile walk. Inevitably under those circumstances the body adjusts to the rhythm of the music pouring into the ears, and these little staggers and hops in the top line come to notice.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 21:44:56 CEST 2001 from (213.113.198.198)

Markku (Quos)

Great news about the film footage. Some The Band tracks from the Festival Express have been circulating on video earlier, hopefully they have more of it.

"White Mansions and The Legend of Jesse James" is an excellent album, I couldn't agree more. It is available at Amazon.

Buddy & Julie Miller's new record is great too. And thanks for the info on the Ronnie Earl CD (just too many great records out at the moment for my financial situation :)

Posted on Wed Oct 3 21:45:20 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.24)

Calvin

I agree concert prices have gotten way out of hand, I targeted 4 shows that might interest me during the next two weeks, Ray Davies, Ratdog(As in Bob Weir of the Dead), Boz Scaggs, and Graham Parker. The first 3 were all between $27-30, I went to Ray, But Boz and Bob were out of luck. Parker on the other hand was only $12.00, that is understandable.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 21:24:21 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.56)

Tommy

JTullFan;The Lennon tribute show WAS originally scheduled for Sept.17, but was postponed two weeks and the charities were changed from anti-gun/violence fundraising to helping victims of the Sept.11th disaster.Also, it IS part of a series that TNT does,They did do the Brian Wilson one a while back AND a Johnny Cash one, too.

Maybe Nelly Furtado woulda sounded better with a different song?I'm no fan of hers, but that doesnt mean she doesn't have any good qualities.

NIRVANA....this is tricky.Now, that music was from "my generation",I guess,and I never liked it till after the whole hoopla died down(I'm not one for fads).But ya gotta understand, for millions of teenagers to be listening to radio at the time (late '91)and hearing the likes of MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Michael Jackson.Poison,Nelson,C&C Music Factory..Nirvana was a "major kick in the ass", in Tom Petty's words.It was Rock'n'Roll!which was surely lacking in the early 90s.And the loudest, raunchiest type of rock,too!And it was Cobain's goal to have people listen to music for music's sake, but that later turned against him when "celebrity" hit and he coundn't/wouldn't handle it.But he did make his point, I guess.A "punk rock" mentality was ok when it came to making music after them.It wasn;t all corporate(even though it actually WAS).

Now I listen to them and like them alot..some songs are great, some are Ok and some are bad..But that's the name of the game, no?You like what you like.Plus, Nirvana's influence can be heard in EVERY modern rock band nowadays.So, they must've done something right.....

Posted on Wed Oct 3 21:18:22 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.38)

Bones

Butch: You are exactly right! "Defection" was a poorly chosen word. People certainly have the right to make career choices without any mudslinging attached to it.

It was great to see former Band member Billy Preston last night on the Lennon tribute. Billy plays some great organ on the new Elton John release (which is great by the way). David Powell, Elton's your neighbor in Atlanta isn't he?

Posted on Wed Oct 3 20:48:02 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Just looked under What's New and found the info about Festival Express...THANKS! A documentary sounds so exciting. I have read the great info on this site about Festival Express. I was watching a documentary today about Janis Joplin. It was the best one I have ever seen and it was on E! T.V. Richard Bell was on and said some wonderful words about Janis. The part about Festival Express peaked my interest so much...the music, performers and all the political stuff! They even showed some footage of The Band in Hawaii, on holiday after Festival Express...dancin' around and having a good time! I wish I could go back in time for that one.....

Posted on Wed Oct 3 20:43:56 CEST 2001 from (64.12.103.166)

bob wigo

David,

While the recent acquisitions by SFX are certainly a contributing factor it is important to note that the trend started long before. Local promoters are not without blame. I have paid $75.00 to $150.00 for tickets to shows promoted by Electric Factory Concerts well before they were acquired by SFX.

My experience with EFC tells me that the artists have a great deal to do with the escalating prices. Contracts are not contracts until all parties agree. There are instances though when the local promoter has such a stranglehold on the available venues the artist really has no option but to agree.

I believe we sometimes allow our idealistic views of the artists eclipse the reality of their business interests and acumen.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 20:29:34 CEST 2001 from (64.23.165.18)

JTULL Fan

The Band may have got a high ticket price for the Last Waltz but that included dinner! :) I think there are special occasions such as a Last Waltz where a high price is justified but they are so RARE. Imagine paying $500.00 + for Barbara Streisand like some people did last year. Did she do The Night They Drove Ol' Dixie Down for that rate? (The thought! Ugh)If anyone has the $150.00 to spare for a show consider this: You can get airfare to New Orleans for about that and attend the Jazz Fest with me and my wife for $25.00 a day! Patricia Cornwall comment: Thanks for mentioning a great Richmond native.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 20:02:20 CEST 2001 from (208.218.212.2)

David Powell

Cyndi Lauper did indeed record a song entitled "Money Changes Everything". It was written by Tom Gray from Atlanta. Since the song appeared on the single & album featuring Ms. Lauper's big hit, "Girls Just Want To Have Fun", it proved to be a financial windfall of sorts for Mr. Gray.

On the subject of astronomical concert ticket prices-- I've mentioned this before in the guestbook, but part of the blame can be attributed to the fact that local concert promoters no longer call the shots in booking most music acts. In the last several years SFX Entertainment has gained a significant position in the music business by buying control of a large number of local promoters as well as venue sites throughout the U.S. Not too long ago, SFX merged with the Clear Channel conglomerate the owns a large number of radio stations, futher adding to this position of control in the industry. And if that's not enough, SFX has also been making in-roads into the sports agent business.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 19:49:44 CEST 2001 from (64.12.105.32)

calvin

Good to be back, couple comments to make in my first hiatus post. 1) I dont believe there is any Bob and Robbie fued, in fact Ive always read that Bob was closer to RR than any other Band member, and that it caused friction. Makes sense RR is much like Bob, the way he keeps his distance and doesnt trust many. 2) Nelly Furtado has "buzz" around her because of the competition in a sense, the pretty young thing who directs her own career genre, that her music is better than Britanny and Chistina-how hard is that. I was amazed at how badly miked she was at the show. I do think she has a more interesting voice than she got to show. Her album is somewhat eclectic, but not great-she write's a catchy tune-but the point she write's her own stuff and that sets her apart from the other pretty young things. 3) I didn't get Nirvana either, but like the rest of you I wasnt exactly 21 when it came out so isn't the fact we didnt get it really part of what made it important? 4) I just finally bought RIck Danko's first solo Album-and I hate to say it but I was very disapointed in the first listen, which is strange because I love his last album and Live from Breeze Hill, and the 2 I have with the Trio are fantastic. Anybody else have an opinion on the album?

Posted on Wed Oct 3 19:47:41 CEST 2001 from (24.101.110.233)

John D

Bashfull Bill & Amanda,

"White Mansions and The Legend of Jesse James" is the double CD that includes "White Mansions" which was Paul Kennerly's (Emmylou Harris ex husband) first concept album; before Jesse James. I sent away to England to get this copy when it first came out. It wasn't available in North America as yet, at the time.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 19:05:45 CEST 2001 from (128.165.156.80)

Kay

The November issue of Blues Revue magazine (Lavay Smith on the cover) has several articles about The Band and The Last Waltz, one by Bob Margolin. Pick it up and check it out. For those who can't find it, I sent a copy to Jan and maybe he'll post the articles. Can't get them off the Web, unfortunately.

A few days ago, someone asked about the new Buddy Miller record. A week or so before the GB went to black, Butch posted this:

Listening to the NEW Buddy & Julie Miller record,,,,, due out in the stores tomorrow,,, a truly wonderful record,,,,,with tunes by Julie Miller & buddy of course,, but mainly julie,, Richard Thompson, Dylan ( WALLFLOWER ) & Emmylou Harris,,, a true melodic brilliantly written & played record,,, in my opinion,,, just what my world needed,,

I took Butch's advice and bought it and I also loved it. Their sound reminds me of the very best Poco, but Poco didn't have her great voice. . .

Posted on Wed Oct 3 19:00:45 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Bashful Bill: Rock.com has Jesse James for sale. The cover art is different and it says "White Mansions and The Legend of Jesse James." It is the same producer and artists.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 18:51:07 CEST 2001 from (209.195.208.10)

bassmanlee

It's great to be back!

In Patricia Cornwell's last two novels, "Black Notice" and "The Last Precinct" (featuring Medical Examiner Dr. Kay Scarpetta), the primary villian is named JeanBaptiste Chandonne, dubbed Le LoupGarou, or the Werewolf, for the fine hair covering his entire body, the result of a rare congenital condition.

Only caught a portion of the Lennon tribute. Hope it will be shown again. I keep thinking Ms. Lauper has a killer album ahead of her someday, especially if she were to ease up on her originals and assemble the right songs to cover. Rufus Wainwright and Sean Lennon were a good pairing, but whose idea was it to give Moby a mic? Nelly proves she just ain't got the pipes...

Any news that the cancelled Camden/Philly date of Lloyd's BBQ & Blues tour will be rescheduled? And if so, will Levon & BB be included? Butch? Anyone?

Posted on Wed Oct 3 18:39:34 CEST 2001 from (166.90.65.104)

Pat Brennan

The Band got heat for high ticket prices twice: Dylan's BTF tour and The Last Waltz.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 18:05:57 CEST 2001 from (24.49.233.160)

Amanda

Did anyone here see the Festival Express Train tour through Canada in 1970? I am very interested in hearing about it and where to find more info.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 17:39:48 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

That was fast.Found it, thanks anyway, friends.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 17:26:12 CEST 2001 from (24.169.189.83)

Bashful Bill

Hey Joe, where ya goin with ...Seriously,-thanks for the tip. Thanks to you I have a long saught after Struck A Vein CD on the way, it should be here in the next day or so. Thanx!!Now, another question I want to throw out there. I have long had Jesse James album with Levon, Emmy Lou, et. al. but would like to find a new one for a gift to someone. I could have it burned, but I would much rather purchace a new one. Its not in any stores around here, or in any catologs that I have seen. A tip would be appreciated. Levon signed both my vinyl and CD copies a couple years ago, he seemed pretty pleased to see them, said he was "real proud" of that album.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 16:46:58 CEST 2001 from (208.16.227.43)

Mike

Good morning...Crabby, how true that "money changes everything". Didn't Ms. Lauper sing a song about that?! I think she did if I am not mistaken.

JTull Fan...It's a shame that ticket prices are that damned high. I wouldn't pay that much to see anyone, no matter how much I like an artist. I often wonder why groups today have such hefty ticket prices. I bought tickets to see Deep Purple ealrier this summer, which cost me about 50 dollars. Not too bad of a price. What I didn't knwo was that Lynyrd Skynyrd and Ted Nugent (not a fan really but he's ok) were on the bill too! Ineteresting lineup but I got to see THREE bands for $50! And they all plyed full sets. Now, that's what I call a bargain! Something like that really sets certain bands apart from others in the area of overblown ticket prices. Maybe I'd pay $ 150 dollars if a certain band was to come and play in my living room. No concert is worth that much, in my opinion. But it's JUST an opinion, no more and no less. Yeah, I'm sure The Band never had prices like that. I wish I could have see them. So, I will say that I am slightly jealous of anyone who has seen The Band (any configuration, especially with Richard!). But, there's still the music right?! Ok, I've rambled enough. Peace.

Mike

Posted on Wed Oct 3 15:49:22 CEST 2001 from (205.188.198.42)

butch

answering all those posts about the Barn Burners,,,,,,,,

what defections ?????? ya mean people going thru their lives & making changes & choices of their own ?? it is not defections,, just changes,,, Amy wanted to stretch her wings a little away from her pops, ( maybe ? ) & frankie made his choices,,,

it was always chris & pat as the stalwarts anyway,,,it was their group long before mr hot rod ingrao joined,,,

so,, no scandals, sorry, no fighting, sorry,,, just changes in a blues band,,,

if ya'll are looking for a scandal,,,heheheheheh, SORRY !!!!!!!! go fight over some other band,,he said, with a smile,,,,

but, those of you going to King Biscuit this weekend are in for a real treat,,, arkansas will rock with THE BLUES !!!!!!

Posted on Wed Oct 3 14:48:37 CEST 2001 from (63.46.55.228)

Crabgrass

All we are sayin'...

is give the Terrorists a chance...

All we are sayin'...

is give the Terrorists a chance...

(I kinda think it has a nice ring to it!!)

Posted on Wed Oct 3 14:46:27 CEST 2001 from (195.93.49.163)

Chris

Hi, Good to see the GB back. Also good to see the added lyrics. There is a question mark next to the second line of the second verse of Ain't That A Lot Of Love - I always heard that line as 'I can't think of a word that describes you better than indescribable' (but I may be wrong).

Posted on Wed Oct 3 14:30:18 CEST 2001 from (63.66.135.217)

JTULL Fan

Loop Garou (sic)is a song performed by Dr. John as well, perhaps a connection. Re: Lennon tribute. Was this planned prior to 9/11? It was very simialr in format to the Brian Wilson tribute and at the same venue too. I was pleasantly surprised by the good rendition of Give Peace A Chance. I also thought the highpoint was Sean Lennon's groups version of Across the Universe. Insta Karma was cool too, as was Alanis Morrisette's version of Dear Prudence. Nelly Furtado has a cute face but beyond that don't see what the buzz about her is all about. She looked like a deer in the headlights. Also thought Cindi Laupers intrumental abilities were great but her voice didn't suit the song. Would also have liked to have seen some older artists, ie Billy Joel, Paul Simon, Neil Young, etc.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 14:29:52 CEST 2001 from (141.214.78.221)

Steve Knowlton

I sat down and parsed the break in "The Rumor" this morning. There's no change in tempo or dropping beats (that does happen during Levon's section of the verse - his drum fill squeezes out an eighth note). What happens instead is that the piano in the measure before the break plays a very slow syncopated triplet - on the 1, "and" of 2, and 4, which throws off the ear, and the rest of the band stops on the "and" of 1 during the next measure. There's a one beat pause, then Rick's bass fill starts on the "and" of 2. You can tap your toe four beats all the way through, but the tricks with the beats give the "feeling" of the time being disrupted.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 13:32:01 CEST 2001 from (24.2.9.37)

Toronto Craig

Brown Eyed Girl - I wondered what happened to Topper Headon. Loved his solo lp. Some good R&b with horn section , B-3, etc. and Jimmy Helms on vocals. Was hoping for a follow up. Thanks for the info.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 12:32:04 CEST 2001 from (64.12.105.59)

James

Loupgarou is a french werewolf.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 12:20:05 CEST 2001 from (203.79.98.240)

ajr

Loop Garoo is a fictional character from a book called Yellow Back Radio Broke-Down by Ishamel Reed. It was apparently chosen as one of the 100 best books of the 20th century by a San Francisco Chronicle readers' poll and by the American Book Review.

I just found this out now by doing a google search since before I guess just thought Loop Garoo was Dr John song.

It sounds worth reading. According to the webpage linked to just above this post it is " set in a fantastic version of the Wild West of popular literature. Reed's protagonist, the Loop Garoo Kid, is a proponent of artistic freedom and an accomplished voodoo houngan … Although Yellow Back Radio Broke-Down satirizes American's eagerness to suspend civil rights in response to student protests of the Vietnam War, its focus is literature, specifically the dialogue between realism and modernism.…Through the Loop Garoo Kid, Reed takes a stand for imagination, intelligence, and fantasy against rhetoric, violence, and sentimentality. This theme is made explicit in a debate with Bo Shmo, a "neo-social realist" who maintains that "all art must be for the end of liberating the masses," for the Kid says that a novel "can be anything it wants to be, a vaudeville show, the six o'clock news, the mumblings of wild men saddled by demons."

Reed exhibits his anti-realist theory of fiction in Yellow Back Radio Broke-Down through his free use of time, characters, and language. The novel ranges from the eighteenth century to the present, combining historical events and cowboy myths with modern technology and cultural detritus. His primary characters are comically exaggerated racial types: Drag Gibson represents the white's depraved materialism; Chief Showcase represents the Indian's spirituality; and the Loop Garoo Kid represents the Afro-American's artistic soul."

I'm sure there's a Band connection in there somewhere!

Posted on Wed Oct 3 10:23:39 CEST 2001 from (202.239.129.43)

Fred

Late last week, on a whim, I went to the local Tower Records shop, lo and behold there was a copy of the remastered Moondog....bought it and went straight back home. Before playing it I turned on the old computer and lo and behold (AGAIN) the GB is back! The power of The Band!! By buying that CD (Mystery Train---very cool) I was also able to fill up my point card which enabled me to get a free CD (or up to 3000 yen) from the store...I picked up Bruce Hornsby's "Here Come The Noise Makers". (fine live CD) Now it's back to square one and start buying CDs like a madman so I can fill up my new point card (I've got a year to do so) in order to get another free CD! This vicious cycle---will it never end?!?!?!

Lastly, I think it was Chico Marx who said "TOOTSIE FROOTSIE ICE CREAM! GETTA YA TOOTSIE FROOTSIE ICE CREAM"

Take care everyone

Posted on Wed Oct 3 09:25:46 CEST 2001 from (158.36.51.127)

jh

Ruth and everyone else going to AR this weeked, enjoy the KB Blues Festival and Levon and the guys. I was planning to make a US trip myself this month, and stop by Helena, AR, for the weekend to surprise Butch and a few others, but had to cancel a while ago. Too bad. Hope it'll be a good show and a nice festival.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 07:52:33 CEST 2001 from (205.188.192.27)

Tommy

Hey, did any of you out there catch the Lennon Tribute Show on TNT tonight...?Any of you THERE...??I was.It was pretty good, actually.A buncha modern radio stars were slated to play, so I was kinda weary..but I turned out to be pleasantly suprised!Let's discuss, friends.The performance of the night that I DIDN'T like at all was the Nelly Furtado/Dave Stewart version of Instant Karma.It just wasn't...right.And I wasn't crazy about Lou Reed's vocals for Jealous Guy,but I didn't expect much in the first place ..It's Louuuuu.The music was good for the version, though.

I also like Marc Anthony(who I have liked since Paul Simon's CAPEMAN album.....but his radio tunes are dumbed down.It's too bad.)Cyndi Lauper LIVE from Strawberry Fields was cool, and Dave Matthews solo acoustic rendering of In MY Life was just fuckin' fantastic!...Heartbreaking!Whattaya guys think....?,,,,,,,,

Posted on Wed Oct 3 07:34:38 CEST 2001 from (209.214.117.100)

BWNWITennessee

Havest moon shinin' down from the sky, a weary sign for us all

Posted on Wed Oct 3 06:57:42 CEST 2001 from (64.230.42.130)

brown eyed girl

Every time someone mentions war lately..........I play Ornette Coleman's PEACE and TEARS INSIDE.....................

I remember the Godfather of Grunge........Neil Young saying in an interview that when Nirvana hit the music scene that America was finally having it's own Punk music........I always liked Nirvana's cover of David Bowie's MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD..............

I grew up together with The Clash and Punk from England in the late seventies.......The drummer Topper Headon..........brought soul......(unfortunately had personal problems which made it difficult to continue playing in a band).......The bassist Paul Simonon.......brought reggae to the band........Joe Strummer.......main writer and rhythm guitarist........ok.........he didn't change his name to strummer for nothing!........:-D......brought rhythm and blues and..........Mick Jones..........the other main writer, guitarist and musical arranger.......brought the latest music vibe and influences that were around to the band..........They were an eclectic band.............but with an UNDENIBABLE EDGE............and they were rebels with a cause..........

One of the few bands of today that have similar energy and commitment to social change........RAGE AGAINGST THE MACHINE.........GUERILLA RADIO..........NO SHELTER........TAKE THE POWER BACK............The guitarist and writer Morello studied at Harvard..........................I think Tom Morello and Zach de la Rocha (other main writer and singer with rebellious dreadlocks) understood............The philosophers have only INTERPRETED the world in various ways.......The point however is to CHANGE it...........

As Marx would say.........THE OPPRESSION OF ONE IS THE OPPRESSION OF ALL..........

Posted on Wed Oct 3 06:23:07 CEST 2001 from (152.163.204.77)

Bayou Sam

So, who watched the Lennon thing tonight? Watching Sean Lennon sing the bridge on "This Boy" was worth the price of admission for this Lennon fan. Kevin Spacey doing "Mind Games" was amazing. I thought Cyndi Lauper did a very cool job on "Strawberry Fields Forever". It was something to see Yoko standing there at the end getting a thunderous ovation. I pictured John looking down at that scene and thinking, "it's about fucking time you clapped for her".

Susan = that part in "The Rumor" probably just kind of evolved while the guys were practicing the tune. I love the dynamics, where it first jumps into the lead part, and the song sort of "picks-up. Then it comes back down to earth at the part you're talking about. I've always loved that little bass fill that Rick drops in there right at the end of that part - in fact, it seems to almost mirror a little fill that Robbie does earlier in the song durin one of the verses. The Rumor is one of my very favorite Band tunes.

Thanks for the replies on my Nirvana/Cobain questions.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 05:47:14 CEST 2001 from (204.39.226.158)

twilight

Tonights tribute to John Lennon on TNT was all about giving "peace a chance". It wasn't about getting back at the Taliban, as some may have wished. Enjoyed Alanis M. doing "Dear Prudence" and all of the Sean Lennon/Rufus Wainright collaborations (frankly - I was surprised at how good they were). Giving peace a chance will never be irrelevent.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 03:20:12 CEST 2001 from (209.143.37.24)

Ruth

Hi all. I am a relative newcomer to the GB - just to give you guys a chuckle -- I thought GB stood for Great Britian and my -- many of you have strong and perplexing feelings about the British Isles! Anyway, I would love to link up with some Band aficienados at this weekends King Biscuit Blues Festival in Arkansas. Are many of you going? Let me know. I will wear the official "uniform" - Band shirts, Barnburners shirt, etc. Staying at a B & B called the Stoneyridge Inn. Take care, Ruth

Posted on Wed Oct 3 00:58:53 CEST 2001 from (64.12.101.164)

JTull Fan

Brien: I agree with you on the U2 tickets. It's hard for me to imagine wanting to see ANYBODY so much that I would even pay half that. (OK, I would, the Beatles if you could bring John Lennon back)Of course, every artist is anti-establishment until they become the establishment. The audience too often forgets that bands are incorporated businesses and for the most part abide by those business principles, and what they provide is an illusion, the same way actors and actresses do. The message may be one of and to 'the people', but once a certain level of stardom is reached much of it is just that, illusion. This is not necessarily a bad thing provided people realize they get what they pay for. Unfortunately too, many of these prices are more a prestige thing to those that can afford them than to the true fans. It's like the corporate box at a football game; how many in them are real fans or just semi-interested 'clients'. Oh well, it is what it is. It doesn't ruin the Beatles or J. Lennon's music for me to know that the Beatles were a very calculated money-making enterprise. They had that right and they certainly gave as much as they received. But then again, what made the latter day Band so special to me was to buy a $5.00 ticket at a walk up window, go in, grab a tall frosty and stand by the stage, wait, wait, wait..wait some more, buy a whole lot more frosties, and then see some REAL sincere music. Enjoy the Lennon show tonight guys. And OK, I will enjoy Give Peace a Chance because I know it is important to some of you guys.

Posted on Wed Oct 3 00:27:44 CEST 2001 from (212.134.22.224)

Chris

Could anyone out their give me some info on the legendary charater 'Loop Garoo'. I have heard he was a southern mythical figure but cannot find any info on him. Any help would be appreiciated.

Posted on Tue Oct 2 23:45:38 CEST 2001 from (63.46.55.252)

Crabgrass

U2 are still a "voice for the people" - except now the people they are a voice for are "rich people." This shift occurred soon after Bono's royalties made it possible for him to purchase a mansion in Dublin. Money changes everything.

Oh boy - Favorite Band Songs!! Mine is still "The Weight."

Posted on Tue Oct 2 22:43:17 CEST 2001 from (169.200.133.37)

Bones

I'm sorry to hear that the Barnburners are having some defections. I think Telarc ought to put out their cd. They have Levon and Guy Davis on a lot of their cds already. Butch, how's everything going with our boys?

Posted on Tue Oct 2 20:45:24 CEST 2001 from (209.202.98.139)

Bill

The Danko-Hudson version of Twilight that appears on The Best of Mountain Stage, Volume 1, also appears on a complilation titled Canadians Live From Mountain Stage. Bruce Cockburn appears too, backed by Richard Bell and Colin Linden.

Posted on Tue Oct 2 20:40:19 CEST 2001 from (152.163.201.191)

Brien Sz

I never "got" the Nirvana thing..,I was always in the Pearl Jam camp. They came out of the same scene at the same time - i guess i just connected with Pearl Jam more. Nevermind had some excellent cuts but Cobains's whole mystique never intrigued me.., the sloven, greasy depressed thing always turned me off. I guess i was never that angry or detached. To me Pearl Jam rocked and did better than the others of the Grunge movement. What Nirvana would have evolved into know one really knows but at least Pearl Jam writes what they want to play and don't give in to the "Companies", they battled Ticketmaster and keep their prices fair. They Rock in concert, and even if they don't write hits anymore, they still know how to put out quality cd's.

Side note to ticket prices - That group that use to claim itself as anti-establishment and a voice for the people, U2, are charging $145 bucks a clip for their Madison Square Garden Concert.

Posted on Tue Oct 2 20:14:44 CEST 2001 from (64.130.114.106)

D.B.

Favorite Songs by The Band:

1. The Weight (original studio version)

2. The Weight (with the Staples)

3. It Makes No Difference

4. Chest Fever

5. Rags and Bones

Favorite instrumental parts:

1. The end of It Makes No Difference

2. The intro to Chest Fever

3. Theme from The Last Waltz

4. After the refrains in Acadian Driftwood

5. After the refrains in The Saga of Pepote Rouge

Posted on Tue Oct 2 20:04:36 CEST 2001 from (152.163.205.77)

James

Richard Manuel played drums on about half the songs on the second album. The ways to tell are: Is there a mandolin? Is there a rhythm guitar? Both piano and organ, or no? Does the drummer play the cymbals expressively (Levon) or kinda shy (Richard)? Does the drummer play fat (L), or more like a dixieland drummer (R)

hope this helps

Posted on Tue Oct 2 18:43:08 CEST 2001 from (147.26.108.231)

Pehr

enjoyed Susan's post about "The Rumor". I cant tell you academically whats happening, but there is that falter, that stagger in there. My take is its something these guys would just do. Like the harmonies they came up with by just experimenting with what they could hit, I think that they did alot of experimental things rhythmically too.

Here's what I respond to- That these guys would be so patient with timing. they would let the beat come to them rather than push it, which alot of groups just did across the board. In fact the Band would even let the beat go by before going in on it at the last second. Levon, Rick, Richard and Robbie all had different senses of timing that would come together and create a fascinating design as to the structure of all the elements. On "the Rumor" I think that they take this idea and elaborate. What gives that music such a warm, comfortable feel and use that as an interruption in the elegant ground weaved, to flop back into the verse after the break you mentioned. It's a disruption that opens alot of space and makes the overall grouping more beautiful.

In Levon's book he spoke of teaching the cast of "Coalminer's Daughter" to sing an old harmony structure; a canon of sorts that these actors, etc. didnt' know about. I think alot of ideas found their way into the mix because these guys were so tight and close together, as well as all from very distinct backgrounds in which music played a huge role in the formation of their character. I grew up on music as the Beatles hit, like alot of people. Growing up on music before the Beatles, in these small rural towns without electricity seems to have created a real sense of fellowship through the music that so largely defines the special legacy we all come here to celebrate.

reminds me of some recent posts celebrating "discovering" the Band. This depth and originality that the music continues to reveal really blew my mind when I got into Band when I was 14 or 15. Still does. Like the saying the more you learn about something the less you know about it.

Posted on Tue Oct 2 18:41:13 CEST 2001 from (63.66.135.217)

JTULL FAN

Give Peace A Chance ironically is co-credited to Paul McCartney, being written prior to their official partnership breaking up, although I think it was written in either Toronto or the Amsterdam Hilton. I have no objection to the song as is, it's just not on my 'request' list. To me it speaks of the Vietnam era, when we had generation against generation and our government was making some misguided decisions, to put it mildly. So to me, although the words are saying 'give peace a chance' it is a reminder of those awfully divided times in our country when there was anything but peace, as opposed to todays circumstances, where we are united against an external threat. But if you guys want it I won't whine.

Posted on Tue Oct 2 18:12:16 CEST 2001 from (199.224.105.162)

Diamond Lil

Adding to Ruby's sentiment about "Give peace a chance" being for all generations, I'd like to mention something.

In our local elementary school recently, kindergarden through 2nd graders, surrounded by flags of all nations, sang that timeless Lennon tune, serenaded by the silent tears of the adults who came to hear them. There is something both sad and beautiful to hear the words "All we are saying, is give peace a chance"..sung by children. Perhaps all the lyrics are not fitting for today, but the meaning behind them certainly is. I think that a concert of John Lennon's music would be very incomplete without those words ringing out, especially in these times.

Posted on Tue Oct 2 17:33:05 CEST 2001 from (64.12.103.153)

bob wigo

Ruby,

I second that emotion.

Posted on Tue Oct 2 17:27:27 CEST 2001 from (208.221.196.18)

Henry

Is there a definitive list of which songs Richard played drums on? Some are pretty obvious (Henry, Rag, Jemima), but I'm looking for a complete list.

Thanks, Henry

Posted on Tue Oct 2 16:35:48 CEST 2001 from (129.171.204.17)

otoole

Nirvana was the first band that got to me. I had a tape my friend made me with Bleach on one side, Nevermind on the other. I loved it - played it all the time. The first concert I saw was them with the Breeders, and its probably one of the best I've ever been to. Eventually after Kurt died, Nirvana's records were relegated to my prized records shelf but were rarely played. They put out four albums in total before Kurt died (+Incesticide, In Utero) (two afterwards Unplugged, Muddy Banks...). These days when I go back to listen, I still enjoy their records but they've lost some of their effect on me. I've calmed down some since then, and found some other bands that suited me a bit better. Kurt's lyrics are interesting 'sometimes' in a "too many re-reads of Naked Lunch" sort of way - but the overall sound of Nirvana is what makes them classic. The bare simple guitar clipping, the shards of feedback, Kurt's voice cutting through. Their overall sound, to many, is akin to Hendrix's guitar or Dylan's lyrics - And it really is a shame that he's left us. I can hear the potential for even greater things in Nirvana's albums. The lack of output by them somewhat diminishes Kurt's place in rock's Valhalla (sp?) but he's definitely there in my mind. As for his suicide diminishing his work - it doesn't ruin his music for me. Its a shame if it does for others. I enjoy his, Krist Noveselich and Dave Grohl's work. I only wish there was more.

Posted on Tue Oct 2 16:35:37 CEST 2001 from (199.44.161.72)

Brent

Bayou Sam- re: Kurt Cobain. Good question. I speak as someone who really felt like a part of the musical change that was in the air during Nirvana's heyday. I felt an extreme sadness upon his death, as well as an anger that he would do that to his wife and innocent child. My personal feeling is that heroin had totally gotten the best of him and he was full of self-loathing for having become a junkie. Not to mention the fact that he never really envisioned becoming half as famous as he was, and totally did not know how to handle it.

As for whether or not he has been over-rated as a musical force, I would say he probably has, but only to the degree that other rock stars who have died before their time have been over-rated (except for the great Richard Manuel). I think you could safely say he had a special kind of genius for writing songs, marrying pop hooks with monstrous distortion to great effect.